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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
You're probably going to have to Odin back to stick and start over. Do you know how to use it? And where to find the stock rom?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
I found it, it's verified. And yeah, I'm putting it on the outtermost file of my external SD card.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
I did, I rooted my phone a while back. Isn't there a link to the stock rom on the sticky?

EDIT: Just if I misunderstood you, I am currently on the stock ROM. I managed to get back to it by using a backup.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
What version of recovery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Oh, sorry, CWRM v5.5.0.4

This 5 minute timer thing is killing me...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
That recovery is outdated and will cause you problems
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Just updated to 6.0.1.4 and tried again, but I'm still getting the same error.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I would say your sd card needs formatted then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Just did that too, didn't work :(

Thanks for all the help so far though!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
What are the exact steps you are doing and what Rom?

Put it on the internal and try to flash it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Okay, I boot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, and then install zip from SDcard>choose zip from SDcard>MiUi.... at this point I get the error so I just have to go to backup and restore from backup.

I'll try that when I get home from work today, but I tried it earlier with the older version of CWRM and still got the same notification. Maybe the update will change that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lyndone58:
How about formatting /system?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Tried that too, still getting Installation aborted.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Welp, I feel like a huge noob, but I actually was just doing it off the external. I just did the internal and it finally worked! It could also be the dalvik clear I did, but I bet it was switching to internal.

Thank you so much for all of the help!

Y'all are the best, I can't wait to play around with my new (again) phone!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
1. You have a skyrocket, right?

2. You are using a skyrocket recovery, right?

3. You are flashing a skyrocket Rom, right?

4. You are not placing the zipped Rom inside of another folder, right?

5. You correctly formatted the card, right?

That error is usually do to #4 or #5 being done incorrectly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Yes, Yes, Yes, Apparently my externalSD doesn't work, and Yes.

It's working now, thanks for all of your help!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Cool, get a different sd card and try that sometime.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Could it be a bad externalSD card? I was thinking about switching to a bigger one anyways... it would be a great excuse haha.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Yeah that's most likely what it is if you correctly formatted the one you have.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlushySolid:
Ah, I think I'll go get a 64GB one then! I just have a few closing questions now.

1) I think you should be able to safely delete the zip ROM files after they've been installed, correct?

2) If I Nandroid'd my ROM to the new external SD card, could I rename it?

3) (where I'm going with 2) Would it be possible to Nandroid multiple ROMS and then just switch them out on the fly?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lyndone58:
1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

More file = less disk space = Media scanner will run longer = drain battery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Yes to all, but make sure there are no spaces in the name. If you use twrp you can name them before backing up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rhaneyjr:
I flash off my external all the time. No problems
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vboyz103:
So one morning I woke up to turn on my Nexus 7 (16gb wifi) only as usual and found that the screen put out some random lines or garbled. The kind of stuff you see on a TV without an input. Did a restore of complete stock and still same thing. I then left it there for about 3 days to drain complete battery. When I get to it the next 3 days, before I plug it in to recharge, I held down POWER+VOL DOWN and plug it in. Now it goes into recovery, and I did a POWER OFF, waited few seconds and Power it up to turn on as normal...amazingly the sucka came back to life.

Phew...I thought I have to RMA it.

Thought I throw it out there in case someone has the same issue.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ganett:
Had this happen exactly to me today while watching Netflix. Had it working fine for 4months. All of a sudden I'm stuck on the glowing X. Every so often after restarting it, I would go into the 'static tv' screen. Still haven't been able to resolve it. Been trying to solve it all day.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BretonGirl:
Use the search feature. Your problem has been posted about and the solution given repeatedly. Good luck!
[HTC Droid DNA] Fasty12:
Hello guys a question about the performance of the phone

Is there any FRAMEDROP or STUTTERING when moving around the UI especialliy when OPENING and CLOSING APPS if you could can, can you close and open google maps and tell me if it lag or fps drop?

Being extremely OCD about android lag as i have return and sold various device such as the tab 10.1, NOTE 1, and the nexus 10 because the lagginess and stuttering when opening apps drove me CRAZY.

Now pardon me if i sound rude but can your eyes notice the difference between 30 fps and 60fps? I think a lot of people claiming that their device has no LAG simply cannot TELL what LAG even is and their eyes are untrained therefore wrongfully stating that their device is “smooth” all the time.
[HTC Droid DNA] NCRoadster:
I do see lag in maps. No device is perfect, even my iphone 5 chugged sometimes.
[HTC Droid DNA] Fasty12:
Oh yea INSIDE of maps is fine idc about that im talking about when OPENING and CLOSING the map app.
[HTC Droid DNA] dbdynsty25:
There is pretty significant lag throughout the UI. The Nexus 4 w/ the same specs, minus Sense UI and the 1080p screen, is much smoother. The biggest issue for me in day to day use is scrolling left and right through GTalk sessions. It lags BAD. But that's the only thing that really bothers me at this point in my day to day use.

But the screen makes up for it. :)
[HTC Droid DNA] NCRoadster:
Opening and closing apps is pretty darn smooth, especially once the apps are cached in the ram.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
I dont notice any lag. But I use Nova Launcher prime and not Sense.

Very fast launcher.
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
Honestly I haven't seen this at all. Might be a device per device issue. I have no lag that I can tell. It's really smooth and responsive. Then again I've never used a Nexus 4 so maybe it's smoother. I still wouldn't use the word lag.
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
This topic would be again subjective just like "Hows the battery" :P

However, I have been an owner of these devices in past 3 months -

iPhone 5, iPad Mini, Xperia V, One X+, Galaxy S3, Note 2, Butterfly

A lag will almost always be present in all devices at some time or the other. However, I see where you are coming from. So to answer your question, NO, there is no lag.

I am using Virtuous ROM (even Stock ROM for the matter) with Power Saving On (for CPU) and the only times I have seen lag -

1. After reboot when you go one homescreen to another the widget needs to reload data atleast once.

2. When entering app tray after reboot or app install, it refreshes the app list.

In normal use and opening/closing apps, there is no lag and YES, I can differentiate between 30/60 fps. Example at hand, try scrolling contacts/tones in Whatsapp on a S3 and Butterfly/DNA ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] Fasty12:
Thank you for this man really appreciate it, People on the nexus 10 forum was like NO NO LAG AT ALL!!! Lo and behold i bought it and about to return it after a week So you think the xperia z would be a pretty good bet for a lagless experience? Considering the hardware is similar.
[HTC Droid DNA] Funkym0nkey:
Sense 4+ does have lag regardless what people say. It is there throughout phone UI. Be it settings, desktop or whatever.

However there is no unusual delay in opening or closing apps. And general performance is great in apps.

But if you are coming from Nexus 4, or Note 2, yeah this phone lacks that buttery smooth feel by default.

However with De-sensed Viper with LK kernel and Nova Launcher prime with fast animation = as close as it gets to Nexus 4 UI experience. It is significantly smoother to use. AOSP contacts is blazing fast as it should be.
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
Note 2 is buttery smooth ? :o ... Simple test ... Scroll a long list of items like ringtones on both Samsung phones and HTC side by side ... Let me know how it goes (actually don't since I have already played with them and know the answer)
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
Not on my end. Once again its probably a perception thing. Speaking for everyone isn't a good idea
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
Nope .. not perception ... Samsung has there own interpretation of project butter since there exynos code is not open source which is no where near what it should be ... I am not saying HTC is perfect, but its better butter .. lol
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
Woops... I meant to respond to a different post. I meant no lag on the DNA lol
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
You can take my opinion with a grain of salt if you want to, but I am probably in the top tier of ocd people when it comes to ui lag or slowness. I simply won't put up with it.

I owned the DNA and now the Note 2. Don't let anyone here fool you, the DNA is quite sluggish in homescreen scrolling. To the point that it was one of the main reasons that I got rid of the phone.

There isn't really a ton of lag, although there is a little bit. But HTC for some reason chose to slow down the animations so the scrolling feels heavy. I absolutely hated it.

My personal opinion and conclusion is that they did it to mask how heavy Sense is. Because I had a Rezound and the animations on that phone were much faster but it was a complete lag and stutter fest.

And I always laugh at the people who brush it under the rug and just say to run Nova and you will be fine. If you are going to do that, why not buy a phone with better battery life and expandable storage? Because Nova will make any current gen android device run like butter. I personally buy a phone for the stock launcher and software that it has.

Either way, good luck with your decision!
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
For some reason unknown to me and I think many devs Samsung doesnt utilize hardware rendering to the fullest and ends up with jerkiness in all apps ... Htc does and its very much apparent when scrolling in even 3rd party apps ... I think in the end you need to play with both phones for few minutes to see the difference and make a decision
[HTC Droid DNA] pumah350:
Ditto...
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Ditto for any Android device of the current gen or even last gen for that matter. What does Nova have to do with this phone specifically or the question that the OP is asking??
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
Once a hater always a hater.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Hey, I understand that you might think that I shouldn't be in here. But I owned this device and feel that I have the right to discuss it if I feel I have something to add. "Sigh." isn't adding anything.

Everything I have said here is truth and my opinion. Truth being, Nova runs good on every current and most last gen devices, so what's the point? If you are buying a phone just to run Nova, you can buy any phone, it doesn't have to be the DNA. And if you are going to run Nova, I would suggest a device with better battery life and external storage in my opinion. And my opinion was that Sense on this phone has slow animations and seems heavy in homescreen scrolling.

OP said he is very OCD about lag and so am I. So I felt like adding my two cents in since I am very sensitive to that stuff as well.

We all know that you are a DNA fanboy, but at least be mature about it. Either disregard my posts, or don't reply.
[HTC Droid DNA] Funkym0nkey:
Yes, Note 2 with omega development so far is buttery smooth. And Ring tone I only set once. Home screen and settings I use daily. DNA running sense does not maintain the same frame rate in the things that matter daily. Put favourite widget or first that matter any widget on home screen, there is slight drop in frames navigating through home screens.

It's down to sense. Desensed can be and is buttery smooth.

For someone coming from long time Note 2 and nexus 4 use that was the most off putting thing. But thanks to Viper rom and the dedense option in aroma it is no longer an issue for me. This is why I decided to retire Note 2.

Just because we have new devices does not mean they are faultless.

From my Droid DNA, right in your face....
[HTC Droid DNA] betterthancrimzon:
My phone is pretty smooth, but it does have drawing/refresh issues a lot in the messaging application. Often I find myself misclicking the newest sms, because it hasn't updated yet. This seems to happen a lot when I have multiple conversations happening at the same time. It also happens when I'm using Maps, and trying to quickly change from public transit to walking (for example). I think this is probably a Sense4+ issue, but cannot be sure.
[HTC Droid DNA] rajuabju:
The only time I experienced lag was when I had about 25 different widgets throughout my homescreens; I reduced that to about 12, and now, no more lag.

Occasionally, sure, something will have a minor hiccup or whatever. But overall? This is the smoothest and fastest phone I've ever seen.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
You're lying and brushing the lag issue under the rug. This is the laggiest phone in history.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
The SMS refresh issue drove me nuts on this phone. I'm glad you brought it up, because I almost forgot about it. It was almost impossible for me to click on the most recent SMS because of that issue. Another thing that hopefully gets fixed for you guys without being forced to having to use a third party app which is always just a band aid to the real issue.

So, I see your maturity level hasn't gone up yet. Since when did I say this was a super laggy phone? Look back at all of my posts.

What I've said is that the homescreen scrolling is heavy and slow(er) than other phones. What part of that don't you understand? And if you don't think so, then great! Enjoy your phone, there is nothing wrong with that.
[HTC Droid DNA] betterthancrimzon:
There are a few aspects of Sense4+ that I enjoy: the organization of photos, and the consolodation of threads in the People application, but I think overall I'd rather have an AOSP or as desensed as possible.
[HTC Droid DNA] abn.geek:
One of the reasons I went back to iOS a couple years ago was because I couldn't stand the jittery UI in Android.

The DNA is at least as smooth as my iPhone 4S, which is to say there is hardly any perceptible lag, unless something major is happening in the background (like updating several apps or something).

I'm now rooted with Hatka's ROM, LK's kernel and either Apex or Nova Prime launchers. The UI is downright buttery and clearly smoother than the 4S. Newer apps are as well, but some older apps are still a bit clunky for some reason. I attribute that to the apps themselves doing something wrong, because other apps are flawless.

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Form factor and specs, for one. Carrier, for another. And the display - good god the display. No other phone except the Note 2 - whose display sucks compared to the DNA, whose dimensions are ridiculous and which tries to convince us that the stylus is a good thing (I flatly refuse to step 6 years into the past and use a goddamn stylus) - on Verizon is comparable right now in terms of hardware specs. Literally none are comparable on any carrier in terms of display quality.
[HTC Droid DNA] friend'scatdied:
The HTC One X(+) has an objectively better display at greater than 6", assuming 20/20 vision and standard manufacturing tolerances.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
I guess everyone has their own priorities in choosing the right phone for them, and that's ok. Form factor and specs didn't do much for me since it isn't light years ahead of anything current and I certainly don't notice it compared to my Note 2. And the display was really nice for sure, but it wasn't some crazy night and day difference that would make me want to keep it just for that.

So I went with a very good display, better battery life and external storage. That is what my priorities were. Yes it's much larger than the DNA, so it would definitely be a matter of choice. For you the DNA fits what you want, so that's all that matters! :D
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
Wow... I'm shocked at how people are acting in this thread. When will people realize each device acts differently? Whatever though this is some serious negativity...
[HTC Droid DNA] Argumentation:
Just kinda FYI to everybody here, you can set the animations in the advanced dev options to .5 instead of 1 and it makes all the animations much faster and smoother. :good::)
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Really. Some people are just crybabies.

Yes, the homescreen animations are slower than other phones, but they don't lag. There is a huge difference there. The framerate stays the same, it doesn't drop at all.

And I wouldn't be suprised if some Rom in the near future has an option for faster honescreen animations.
[HTC Droid DNA] AvatarOfFrost:
It's not smooth. It will NEVER be smooth. That's just the way Android is and always will be, no matter how many cores they put in these phones.

It's slightly choppy even scrolling though a simple list.

Try scrolling though apps like Facebook. It's a nightmare.

I recommend you try it at the Verizon store and see for yourself if you can live with it. I'm content with it because I know it will always be like this.

The iPhone 5 was just too boring for me, but give the devil it's due: It was worlds apart more fluid and smooth.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Facebook is just a horribly coded app that will lag no matter what. That is a horrible example.

Scrolling in messages, scrolling on the homescreen, scrolling in reddit news, and scrolling in the browser are pretty damn smooth. The DNA has been the most lag free android experience I have ever used. The only android phone that compares is the note 2.

And yes, ios and wp7 are smoother than android. But if anyone is suprused by that than they are simply ignorant. They are both 100x simpler/basic than android, obviously they are smoother.
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
As I had said on my previous posts .. its all about how the companies utilize the hardware they put in their phones ... Bragging about latest chips and not using its functionality to the fullest is the worst they can do .. and of course everybody knows Samsung marketing is years ahead of HTC hence the market worth ...
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Lol some apps are just terribly laggy. Its not the phones fault. The DNA is by fae the smoothest android device Ive owned.
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
And people commenting about battery should relax ... Its much better than expected keeping in mind the screen size ... Again subjective but all I can say is that's my normal use of phone and iPhone 5 dies at hour 14 ... So I am very happy ...
[HTC Droid DNA] pumah350:
Yea, ditto...as in, my phone also does NOT lag and I also happen to be running Nova Prime. Now to expand...I'm not running Nova to make it smoother or faster, it already was super smooth and ripped right out of the box! I'm using Nova because I like the look it gives and for the gestures. Ok!? How smooth is it? Buuutterrry smooooth....
[HTC Droid DNA] trebb:
The messaging app isn't very smooth. Lags a lot, and it redraws SO MUCH.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Thats the only issue I have. The messaging app is kinda buggy. I should have waited on rooting to see if a update came out for it but I doubt one will.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
I havent noticed any lag but I do hate all the redraws.
[HTC Droid DNA] trebb:
It sometimes takes a while when I type in names for them to pop up. And going in and out of messaging threads isn't the quickest.

The redraws are the worst, though. I can't believe a phone with 2GB of RAM and a processor with that power redraws so much. The app is beautiful too, so I'm torn.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
I am currently running Nova on my Note 2 just to test it out and it's running just as quick and smooth as it was when I had the DNA which doesn't surprise me at all.

Sense vs Touchwiz on the other hand is no contest. Sense is smooth and has slow animations and Touchwiz is smooth and has fast animations. I prefer the latter.
[HTC Droid DNA] Fasty12:
Okay?
[HTC Droid DNA] themikeyan:
Form factor is the main reason I went with the DNA over the note 2. I still can't get used to the note2 and I work on several that clients own. Not to say it is a bad decide, but it isn't for me.

I think a lot of the "hate" you get is from your blowing off the DNA for "why not get a better battery life, etc" device. It doesnt bother me but it seems to ruffle a lot of feathers. You certainly have every right to your opinion. Perhaps toning down that harsh part of your attitude that is anti-dna might help? Like I said, for me, form factor matters because the note 2 just isn't for me. The DNA is about as big a phone as I'll go.

Mike
[HTC Droid DNA] GrimReaper24:
Guys please keep your posts on topic and do not flame one another thanks.
[HTC Droid DNA] v-b-n:
The messaging app is not the best in the world, I agree. However, its behaviour is still more towards stock rather than a full rewrite. Compare how Samsung messaging app handles mms versus HTC one. Also, what you all are referring as redraw is not that ... A redraw is a graphical thing, what the messaging app is doing is a refresh wherein it reads the messaging db again and does a refresh on the screen to reflect changes ... So there is no relation to ram, etc.. its just an app coding issue
[HTC Droid DNA] alinafia:
Phone is smooth for me..just dont use widget too much and no live wallpaper. Im from note 2 user...note 2 only better on battery only..else butterfly. Btw.. note 2 user beware of sod...mine affected.
[HTC Droid DNA] jlevy73:
By the looks of it, I have the only lag free DNA. I don't have any issues with the stock messaging app that have been discussed throughout this thread. My SGS3 does lag quite heavily with stock messaging, handscent fixed that though.
[HTC Droid DNA] Argumentation:
Honestly, I don't really see any of the lag I read about, my phone is super smooth, between de-sensed and sped up animations, it's great.
[HTC Droid DNA] pumah350:
Hehe, ok buddy...keep tellin yourself that. :laugh:
[HTC Droid DNA] :
No lag for anything on my phone here :)

(Running a hella debloated Battery+ rom or whatever it's called.. System/apps is near AOSP levels lol.. Only 60-70 installed, and dsb's newest kernel)

If you get this phone, I

highly

recommend rooting/unlocking it if you know a little adb. Once we get AOSP, this thing will be an absolute boss.
[HTC Droid DNA] dbdynsty25:
It's actually true. But that doesn't mean the DNA isn't a better phone. I've got both and I pretty much only use my DNA these days.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
And at this point the adv is minimal since we font use jcases method anymore.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Yeah and keep telling yourself that the DNA has faster animations. :rolleyes: