yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Atrix 2] NIS1169:
A Few More Questions...

Wow! Thank you guys for the quick reply to all my questions! If you don’t mind, I have a few follow on questions.

I’m still trying to understand how our partitions are setup on the A2. I’d like to know more about “b” and “c” below. So is this accurate then:

a.	ROM partition (don’t know size)

b.	“Application” partition – I know I can’t access it in ES Explorer or on my computer (about 4.55GB)

c.	Some other partition (webtop maybe) – I saw it once and it had Motorola drivers on it. I can’t seem to bring it up again on my computer (unknown size)​

For System 2, I’ve found some references to people using it. I’m not trying to argue, just trying to understand and ideally, do the same. Miui is one of the custom ROMs I’m interested in. Any idea on how they did this? Below are the posts I read. Maybe I just don’t understand what they mean.

a.	Miui on System 2 (Uzayr – ATT and ICS 4.0.4 & Ravikirancg) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40185800&highlight=+system+2+#post40185800

b.	Debate size of system 2 and installed miui (minhajlk) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38673173&highlight=+system+2+#post38673173

c.	Converted miui (lifehacker7) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39205383&highlight=+system+2+#post39205383

d.	Installed miui and running on ATT (according to sig block – amynjimmy) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39935558&highlight=+system+2+#post39935558​

To clarify #10 question in first post, I was reading about troubleshooting and what to do if you get the error “hijack mismatched” or “bad system integration”. The posts stated “do not reboot” and reinstall hijack from “system protector & keeper” area.

You guys are amazing, and thanks for helping out a n00b! :highfive:
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
Happy to help and glad to have a curious mind like you around.. Regarding partitions, download a terminal emulator or using adb shell, type in the foll

su
cat proc/partitions

If you want any info on any partition, feel free to contact me.

Regarding 2nd system, its a little ambiguous right now. Some can use it but others can't. I never could. Neither on 0.3.2 nor on 0.3.4. The reason we usually say not to use it is cause most people don't read. So they might blame a ROM for it and create too much confusion. From, ICS onwards, webtop partition is not used by moto. And bmm and safe strap use it. In the jb leak, the webtop was resized to 128 KB. More or less removed and that part was given to data. That data is present in in devtree. The bmm was written for RAZR and has some hard coded parts for it. The partition layout is different for the two devices. Again there are a lot of interesting things there.

Regarding miui, well there is official miuiv4 for this device. But its only for ME865. If your device is retail one (no att logo), just flash the hktw or Chinese ROM and install it over it. Download it from miui official website. Else you need to use the ones that are modified. Don't know much about those as I never required them.

Regarding the logwrapper, search about 2nd init.. Read it, then come back here. Now, this the file that contains hijack and the most important file for boot up. Bmm replaces the stock one with its own highly modified one that takes over on boot by 2nd init method. When installing, m checks for the integrity (sha checksum). It should match ICS ones and if it does, bmm makes a backup of it (renames it to logwrapper.bin) and puts in its logwrapper. If the checksum dosent match (maybe if bootstrapper was installed) it aborts installation. That breaks a few things. Any way, as long as you have the right fxz files, you are safe.
[Motorola Atrix 2] minhajlk:
Just to clarify flashing ROMs on 2nd system;

If you are on ICS then you have a web top partition, which, is about 1.2 GB in size and if you are on JB leak then you don't have a web top partition, which, means your 2nd system is a CDROM with only about 12MB (as per Ravi) and you cannot flash any ROMs on this partition. I haven't flashed JB leak as I am on AT&T so I cannot comment on this.

I am on AT&T ICS and I can flash or restore ICS ROMs like Svc7 on 2nd system without the need of a patch. Apart from this there is a converted MIUI ROM which you can flash on 2nd system without a patch. However, to use the 2nd system you need to install BMM and activate the 2nd system and format the webtop partition. There is a thread on installing and configuring BMM, please see OP.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
No no.. That's not what I meant.. In the jb leak, webtop partition is resized to neatly 0. I have no idea but I could never use system 2 on 0.3.2 or 0.3.4 no matter what.. ICS or jb. It just won't work for me.

[MENTION=890359]nis[/MENTION], now you see why I asked not to use that system? Unnecessary confusion..
[Motorola Atrix 2] amynjimmy:
Even though models are the same moto slipped in slight hardware variations of the same model. Even though I was able to flash the modded miui to system 2 each phone is just slightly different. This is the reason we have some plans that can run kexec and some that can't with the same model. Also remember that running rooms isn't perfectly flawless, everyone works very hard to make them great but just Make sure u have fxz and nandroids. Ravi s pacman is my daily driver and I love it.

MB865/ATT/BMM

1. Stock 4.0.4

2. Miui

3. Pac man 4.2.2

4.Kexec 4.2.2 (3/28)

6. ASOPA 4.2.2 (4/10)
[Motorola Atrix 2] NIS1169:
Sorry for the late reply. So I installed a terminal app and ran the code - very interesting! What confuses me is why moto left 1.3GB of valuable space just sitting there not being utilized! They fixed it with jb, but come on! I'd rather have the space for apps, even though I successfully installed the modified miui.

So, yes, I was able to get mini installed on system 2! I ran into small problem, the first go around. I didn't initialize system 2, andwhen I tried to boot into mini for the 1st time I got an error. So, I wet and initialized and tried to boot and got a black screen. I rebooted, did a factory reset on system 2, reinstalled, rebooted and was up and running! YESSSSSSSS!!!!! MY FIRST CUSTOM ROM!!! And I can still reboot into stock! I LOVE BMM!!!!

OK, so I gotta ask, if system 2 is at 1.3GB in size for ics systems, why can't we install any custom ROM on the partition?

Better yet, why cant we delete the partition ourselves and add it to the data partition? Is this because our boatloader is locked?

As for 2nd init, I need to do some more research as well as all the options in the bmm application for each system.

Thanks to all for your help in explaining things to me. Now I want to install cm10 on system 3, then cm10.1 on system 4 and maybe numa on system 5. Ive read that for new systems, most people are setting 500MB for system partition, 500-650MB for data partition and 300MB for cache. What settings are you guys using? With only 4.9GB for the data partition on system 1, and each additional system taking up 1.3GB (if not more), that only leaves 1GB of space for apps on system 1, my primary rom. I'm kind of an app whore, so I like having a lot of space.

Thanks again for everyone's help and ill let you all know how it goes. Im keeping notes on everything im doing so I can put together a kick a$$ tutorial!

No joke! It can get confusing without extensive research. Good thing I'm anal like that. :D

Its like moto did everything they could to disrupt the modding community. Those bastards! Great hardware, sucky software! Maybe things will be better now that Google owns them - although they seem to not want to support external memory , hardware wise.
[Motorola Atrix 2] kindacrazyazn:
So I had a couple of questions about the partition. So I currently have Altered's CM 10.1 on system 1 but i want to have PAC-Man ROM on system 3. I don't know how much i should leave memory I should leave for system, data, etc. If someone could help that would be great.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Lifehacker7:
Decide which ROM you'll use more. Like more apps. Give more memory for that ROM. 2 or 1gb for data, 500 MB or so for cache and the system.
[Motorola Atrix 2] kindacrazyazn:
Thank you sir for the quick response. Now the hard part, which one do I want as the main ROM...
[Motorola Atrix 2] Lifehacker7:
That's upto you :D total is around 4 gb of internal memory that we have. Give 1.5 gb for the new system. Or if you plan on trying other ROMs too in the remaining systems, keep less memory for data partition.
[Motorola Atrix 2] kindacrazyazn:
I was wondering to, is there anyway you can swap what is on system 1 with system 3?
[Motorola Atrix 2] Lifehacker7:
I'm not sure about this. My guess is you can simply rename the systems and its done. Again I'm not sure about this. This is what my theory is :D [MENTION=4624976]Ravikirancg[/MENTION] or anybody else who knows this must answer this one :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] kindacrazyazn:
Hmm, that is good to know. I would love to test it but my atrix 2 is my only phone. Thank you for the help with my question though! I really appreciate it. Especially the quick answer.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Lifehacker7:
Yeah, I was free though ;)

And have the fxz files ready on PC incase you brick (soft). You'll be back on stock ics!
[Motorola Atrix 2] kindacrazyazn:
Haha. Ya I totally have it ready after I soft bricked when trying to go to cm 10.1. It is just a hassel to do.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
Well that works with other systems.. Not applicable for 1st and 2nd system.. From system 3 onwards, there are folders created in /data/clockworkmod/virtual those can be renamed.. Or names swapped.. But system 1 is your core system so you can't..
[Motorola Atrix 2] NIS1169:
I'm a little confused, sorry. Are you saying 500mb for system and 500mb for cache? So the total size for a new system would be 2gb (with 1gb for data)?

Does anyone know what the minimum size could be for the system partition? What about for cache partition?

Thanks for the help!
[Motorola Atrix 2] iamezio:
System should be 500MB atleast . cache you can leave at 300.. data i personally do 1GB but you can choose less..
[Motorola Atrix 2] NIS1169:
Cool, thanks!

Well, I decided to try the PAC-man ROM first, and got it successfully installed on system 3. Thanks to everyone who has provided me support over the past couple of days.

So, I think I'm pretty squared away except for one thing - installing the bmm application on custom ROMs.

I've got bmm installed on system 1 (stock ROM), but can I install it on custom ROMs that are designed for bmm, and if so do I want to install the additions (I.e. hijack and logwrapper)? I don't want to mess up my current bmm settings, obviously.

Lastly, what about installing on ROMs that come with cwm recovery built in?

Can it be done, or should I just leave them alone and make any changes from system 1.

Thx!
[Motorola Atrix 2] deveshmanish:
Yes you can install BMM on any custom ROM.But If you've installed BMM on system 1 then you don't need to install BMM on other systems.Moreover BMM will self Uninstall itself from any system other than system 1.If you've installed BMM on system 1 and then install it on system 3 or more you'll definately mess things up.

See Here.

May the -Mass times Acceleration-be with You...
[Motorola Atrix 2] NIS1169:
That's exactly what I needed to know. I'll continue to use system 1 to make changes and leave it at that. Thanks for the help and quick reply!!
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
BTW, NIS1169, you said you wanted more space for your apps and still have more space for ROMs right, well there is one simple way.. not really recommended but should get the work done.. Remember the edit you did in recovery.fstab?

For int, instead of having

/dev/block/mmcblk1p25,

change it to

/dev/block/mmcblk0 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

The same that's there for ext. In short, you will be using your external sdcard for ROM storage. Why is it not recommended? Well, sdcard read write speeds are slower that nand speeds. So your ROM might be slower.. you can do this if you have high speed sdcard (class 6 or 10). Also, I must inform you that using sdcard for this might corrupt your card or may reduce its life as storing a ROM on it requires heavy read and writes.. but many ppl (in other devices like HD2 and nook tablet) do use it.. good luck and have fun..
[Motorola Atrix 2] Super_Commando:
do we need to make these changes in BMM 0.3.4?

sorry for noob question.. :o
[Motorola Atrix 2] Lifehacker7:
Yep.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Super_Commando:
thanks man..
[Motorola Atrix 2] Super_Commando:
and do we need to backup system and app data if i want to install numa or it is not required because it is already there in system 1.

and if yes, do i need to backup all the system data or any selected part(will use titanium backup)??
[Motorola Atrix 2] deveshmanish:
Didn't quite get you.You've Numa on your system 1 right?? And you're trying to install some other ROM to system 3 or higher.Is that the case??

Anyway it is always a good practise to backup your system as if you run into any trouble you can always just revert back to your backup and restore it.I would recommend a nandroid backup.Moreover titanium backup won't backup your system just the apps.While nandroid will back everything up.

You can do a nandroid backup from recovery.Seeing that you've BMM recovery.To do the backup reboot into recovery goto backup and restore select full backup and it'll backup everything.You can also choose selective backup to backup just what you want.

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May the -Mass times Acceleration-be with You...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] NoobTW:
I'm currently using Xperia V (LT25i) rooted and fully deodexed.

Is it possible to remove "Data Traffic" notification? I've tried this and not it's successful.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m_rajaganesh:
How can i connect Reliance Netconnect to Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 for internet purpose?

Any possibilities?
[General Questions and Answers] unknown_anonymous:
I change roms very often, but none are perfect.

I now use a cyanogen rom but i want the apps of sense.

Can you tell me how do i get it.

I tried restoring from titanium backup it force closes.

I tried pushing the app to system/app, failed again.

Can anyone tell me how do i do it.
[General Questions and Answers] Incrauze:
You would need to port the app to work on your current ROM
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samapal:
Hi there. I try to enable wifi ad-hoc mode with change wpa_supplicant at the syste/bin folder. But ad-hoc still not working. Do you have any idea about how enable ad-hoc mode?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] funcrusher:
Has anyone tried either of these on our phone? I somewhat understand how fstrim works, but a bit confused on whether Forever Gone does the same thing (people claim to get the same results). I tried Forever Gone first and feel like my device has been zippier since, but I'm not sure, could be placebo. I ran LagFix the day after, so can't say either way.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2104326

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kovit.p.forevergone&hl=en

I thought I'd post this for discussion, experiences, etc.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] joeyrushlow:
Right now I'm running seeder and lagfix, using both together with 1.72 overclock my device has never been smoother (battery life is better since i'm underclocked as well). Both might be overkill especially since our newer version of android should be cleared of the problems. But it seems to make an impact on my device. As for forever gone, it seems like all it does it clean up your sd card (internal and external? not sure if it does both, will try later) but that probably wouldn't affect the actual speed of the device unless you accessing videos, pictures, cached files from the sd (game files i.e.). Lagfix seems to be specifically for the phone main used partitions (system, data, etc.)

But I'm always willing to try out new things =D

Thanks for the post.
[General Topics] JustSueMe:
For people living in the United Kingdom.

http://tinyurl.com/b8lfupt
[General Topics] Incrauze:
To get the £5 free credit, you need to top up a minimum of £10
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BIGSAMDA1ST:
Trying to download the original stock FK23 Kernel but can't because links are down on the repo..Any other place I can acces it so that I can download it? :)Thanks. .

Edit: I was able to find it and download..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] g_ding84:
http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...int) (SPH-D710)/Kernels/Stock (TW) Kernels/JB

this link?

didn't see your edit.
[LG Optimus Me P350] jrgouveia:
​

Androm Mod is adept the concept of free development, community, distributing custom firmware Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) and 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), which is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device.

Disclaimer:

/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards;
* Third World War, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please;
* Do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM;
* Before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if;
*
* Do not blame me if your glucose level increase.

​

New series of ROMs Androm, now one of the newer versions of Android, 4.0.4, created based on an unofficial CM9.1 source and the code itself (Private). It features a new graphics engine, which is still in testing, but it is already quite stable. Languages ​​were added the PT-Br and Es-Es. It has the Walkman V4.1 system and the Bravia engine 2, fully ported the latest firmware V Xperia, which will bring a great experience in audio and image quality. Prime UI © Interface minimalist well. Anyway, test and check it out!

​

Features:

New graphics engine

Source code updated

Prime UI

3 Languages​​, PT-us, Es-es and En-gb

Good consumption raa

Walkman and Bravia 2 engine

SmartCache2

And much more. Check!

Attention
​

Bugs:

Does not record videos with the default camera app, the next updates will be solved. Preferable to keep the Panorama.

Data usage stats

USB tethering (Use 3rd app)

Reporting Bugs

Please provide information on what happened, what you did to make this happen and a logcat.

If it can't be replicated by you or others, then it isn't a bug.

We do not give any support if you:

Not using the stock kernel CyanogenMod

Do not use the default applications system (launcher etc.)

Have installed other mods / Tweaks

Have file system modified

Before posting a problem, you should:

Check out the posts below for a solution / fix;

Read the last 10 pages of this topic for a post with a similar problem;

Flash the rom again, without forgetting the wipes, check if the bug is still there;

If still persists, notify, and stay tuned for future updates on the topic.

Credits:

Thanks to CyanogenMod Team for everything they have provided

Thanks to lgics for patches

Thanks to Ron G for all the help and the base of cm7 and cm9

Thanks to Venkat for the improved video playback

Thanks to Antdking for all the fixes and being there for me

Thanks to Keyur Maru for source code

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[LG Optimus Me P350] rickyreyne:
thanks, i´ll try it
[LG Optimus Me P350] peluchon77:
Downloading and testing thanks
[LG Optimus Me P350] jrgouveia:
Okay (:
[Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thachstone:
let me ask: latest rom integrated ad-hoc wifi feature, or installation.I hope the ad-hoc wifi pro bring it to the rom version 4.2, it is very necessary to me.thank you very much
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dees_Troy:
More information:

What is the FOTAKernel partition?

The FOTAKernel partition is used by Sony to do FOTA updates. Unlocked devices can't take Sony FOTA updates so using this partition for storing the recovery ramdisk seems like a good idea. Unlocked users aren't able to use this partition anyway and the FOTAKernel partition is effectively the "recovery" partition on Sony devices.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Very nice and great to see more ot this on our devices.

I will link to the all in one thread when i get home.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] waynekirby:
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.3.3.0 touch recovery [2012-01-24]

Awesome news! Official support
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dees_Troy:
Updated!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Sam Solomon:
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.0.0 touch recovery [2013-01-29]

Looks Awesome,I will check it with my Phone

Sent from my Micromax Canvas 3
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] deltomi:
No recovery found for my Xperia T :(
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dante187:
question?

Hy works that too on [ROM 4.1.2 - 4.2.1] JELLYBAM - v4.1.0 [17/01] [Mint] [PA.AOKP.CM10] ?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] erdemdengel:
Same for me
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] petalex99:
No recovery for my Xperia TX. Please, Dees_Troy, do it for TX community! Thanks!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dtekkt:
AW: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.0.0 touch recovery [2013-01-29]

you got to have a rom and kernel with external recovery support. I have pa installed and it works flawlessly
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dante187:
can you give me a link with this kernel.or is this the fota kernel?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dtekkt:
AW: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.0.0 touch recovery [2013-01-29]

I'm running the fxp kernel that came with paranoid android. They added external recovery support with fxp204 so when you are running a rom that is based on a older release or on stock it won't work at all
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dante187:
First thx.i have now many cm kernels flash who support open recovery then at works fine but the prob is on all other kernels work my wifi not more.i think at exist not open recovery kernel for [ROM 4.1.2 - 4.2.1] JELLYBAM - v4.1.0 [17/01] [Mint] [PA.AOKP.CM10].the original boot.img for this rom support no open recovery.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dtekkt:
AW: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.0.0 touch recovery [2013-01-29]

yes I think the rom needs to be updated. I heard of that before, you could try to wipe system and so on (maybe full wipe) after you installed the kernel, maybe that works for your wifi problem. However I prefer paranoid android :D
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] sj8023ld:
I hava make it to works on TX.BTW,how to use the FOTAkernel partition?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dees_Troy:
I don't have a TX so someone with a TX would have to stop by our IRC channel and offer to test.

Oftentimes the wifi drivers are stored in /system so swapping kernels around without updating the wifi drivers can cause problems with wifi.

There's instructions on our website for flashing the FOTAKernel partition or just use GooManager app to install it automatically. There's also a stock kernel that's been repacked with TWRP that will use the FOTAKernel partition available on our website. Kernel devs can use that as a template for packing the ramdisk in a way that will use the FOTAKernel partition so that they can enable the same functionality as seen in CM and PA, etc.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dees_Troy:
Deleted.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] billysimon99:
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.0.0 touch recovery [2013-01-29]

And how would one go about updating WiFi drivers to make sure it works after swapping kernels?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dees_Troy:
Best solution is to use the zip that installs the kernel again as the zips usually contain the drivers. Other than that, backup and restore system with the kernel.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] billysimon99:
Thanks for the tip. I found this while looking for a solution:

http://madteam.co/forum/general/reload-wi-fi-driver-of-your-android-phone/

I haven't tried it as I've flashed the stock jb update, but for those who are looking for a quick fix, try this out and see if it works (:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dante187:
have now that kernel installed :TWRP 2.3 for all your Xperias. (downloads + DIY howto) . Its works fine with the Rom : JELLYBAM - v4.1.0 [17/01] [Mint] [PA.AOKP.CM10]. Wifi works.all works . :).thx for your help
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dees_Troy:
[RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.2.0 touch recovery [2013-02-25]
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dtekkt:
AW: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.2.0 touch recovery [2013-02-25]

goo manager doesn't find it, only finds 2.3.3.0