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[Android Head-Units] jbmaciel:
I have a Car PC (core duo, Win 7, etc...) which I have this problem. I did a direct connection, with a switch, to the 12V. So I don't have to turn it off everytime I stop in a gas station, for ex.

For long periods (when I am working or shopping) I have to turn it off because in stand by it still sucking current. For really long periods (travels, etc), I have to use the switch, because the unit still draining some current.

I was planing to move to a Android device because I thought it would work like a PAD. I have a ASUS TF700 which I never turn off, each charge lasts for days (at least a week). I just leave it in stand by.

Thank you,

Joselito.

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I have a Car PC with a very bad audio quality, that is why I asked. In this system you can hear the noise from the PC. It is like no branded chinese PCs which you can "hear" the hard drive working in the speakers. I had a friend and in his computer you could listen a radio station!

Ok, cell phone was a bad example because it drains a lot of power, even in the stand by.

A better comparision would be a PAD (or tablet). I have a ASUS TF700 which battery lasts almost forever, if I don't use it and leave it in stand by. I don't have or need turn it off everytime.

Thank you,

Joselito.
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
Perhaps this is a better option for you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/In-Dash-Car-Head-Unit-W-GPS-MP3-CD-DVD-Ipod-Detachable-Android-2-3-Tablet-PC-/190712572776?pt=US_Video_In_Dash_Units_w_GPS&hash=item2c675aeb68&vxp=mtr

This headunit is a tablet/headunit hybrid. I imagine the tablet part can stay running when the car is off.
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
No!!! That would not be a better unit. Firstly, it's WinCE based. Secondly, the connector for the tablet to the HU fails over a short period of time.

jbmaciel Did you read my post #245?
[Android Head-Units] jbmaciel:
That is what thought, the contacts probably will fail soon.

And device won't fit well in the dashboard...

I checked your post #245, but it only says about speakers, is it that one?

PS. Does anyone had measured the power consumed in the stand by mode?

Thanks a lot.

Joselito.
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
I think we are looking for the same answer to the same problem. Keeping the headunit awake while the vehicle is off without killing the battery.

I don't really want to use a switch. What I would like to do is have the headunit power down when the GPS senses no large movement for 15 minutes while on 12v constant power.

EDIT: I think I found a solution I am going to try. Using Tasker, I can set it to "Shutdown" when "15 minutes has elapsed" after "Wifi Disconnect". So, if I tether my phone to my headunit, and I leave the vehicle...then as long as I am far enough away to not maintain a wifi connection then tasker will turn off the headunit after 15 minutes. This should also work if I disable wifi sharing on the phone side, as a form of remote shutdown.
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
Joselito, yes that's the post. That should give you a pretty decent idea of how much power the system can output/handle.

Both of you, in regards to standby, power comsumption, etc. Firstly, there is not a standby. Secondly, wiring it any other way than intended WILL cause drain. So... knowing this.. there is a couple different ways to approach this: 1) you could add a second battery into the loop. You would need to use a deep cycle (marine) battery and would also need a battery isolator. This option will cost you several hundred $$ (USD). 2) you could add a relay to the battery wire so that it remains on with the doors closed until the door is opened OR 15 minutes has passed. This route would be much cheaper, but would still consume battery power. Plus, you would need wiring diagrams for your specific vehicle and a decent knowledge of electrical circuitry to configure it the way that you would like.
[Android Head-Units] 949BFN:
Earlier in this thread, someone asked what these radios look like on the inside. Well, here it is:

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[Android Head-Units] artash44:
Can you point out the memory or cpu?

Can any hardware upgrades be made? It does not look upgradeable.
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
Urgodfather, I respect your opinion and appreciate your ideas. However I am going to try other methods first.

The unit doesn't have suspend..but you can shut it down. Using tasker in combination with a kill switch should work fine for me. I will check for power drain with the vehicle off.
[Android Head-Units] G2k0:
THANKS!!!!

NICE!!! Thanks brother :good: I was hoping since the on-board memory is reported to be at 512MB DDR3 800 that MAYBE, just MAYBE it was a DDR3 800 so-dimm (which would of made it very upgradable). From the looks of it, it seems to be built in. Thank you for the effort! :)

My concern about ram came about when I noticed that something keeps draining it (and who doesent want MORE RAM?). I'll usually start at about 150-ish MB free and after a few min it would drop down to 48MB!!! I suspect its the ipod app as usually when I'm driving its the only thing I'm running & Waze. I've tried killing any un-needed apps but there still seems to be a memory leak somewhere. Havent had the time to dig any deeper into the low memory issue.

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I hear ya. The easy way to do what you are trying to accomplish is make sure the yellow & red power cables from the HU are connected to a constant +12V source. In my car, the cables that were on ISO plug (female socket in the car) was providing constant a +12V on both leads. This was undesirable for me because if I ever forgot the radio on, it would stay on. Pressing the units power button would turn it off of course. The advantage of course is that if I made a quick stop somewhere, I didnt have to wait for the unit to power (boot) up. Anyway, I think that might be your easy way - if you want to go that route - to accomplish what you want to do.

Me on the other hand, I had to run a cable from my cig lighter (to the red power cable on the unit) and the illumination light from it to the purple wire (I think it was purple) so that the unit would light up when I turned my headlights on. My goal was to have it turn off when I turned off the engine and turn on automatically when I started the car (as much as that sucks when you are making a quick stop somewhere). If you want to see the HU's wiring diagram, look back a few posts I had posted it :)
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
Yeah...I am going to run constant power but add in a toggle switch so I can also use it in a intended wiring mode.
[Android Head-Units] jbmaciel:
Ok, if I understand right this unit doesn't have suspend, sleep or stand by mode. You have really to turn it off everytime. Correct?

How long it takes to turn off? Is it like Windows which takes few seconds?

Anyway, this is bad because they could use a circuit similar to a tablet circuit. Or maybe they are using second grade ICs which are not power green.

Thank you.

Joselito.

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Ok, I got it.

Since there's no stand by or sleep mode, this system is useless for me. I already have a car pc that I have to boot up and shutdown a lot.

I am going to keep looking around...

Thank you,

Joselito.
[Android Head-Units] ransoma22:
Update Fail

Finally I had the courage to update the firmware but it fail and the system remain unrooted, still working fine.

Perhaps this firmware is not suitable for my current device ... :eek:
[Android Head-Units] Jake Bullit:
Quick update: I received my connectland 4 port hub today,and I can now get BT and Wifi at the same time.My previous 4 port hub wouldnt allow connection with two devices.

Her`s where i got the hub and BT dongle from:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130887277411?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B8UYXCW/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Hendre,why have you opened the HU?

Problems? or are you looking to do some mod?
[Android Head-Units] ransoma22:
I spoke to the supplier and they feedbacked to me that jelly bean OS unit will be releasing in July...

Let see.....
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
Did they say if will be available as an update, or just for new devices purchased?
[Android Head-Units] ransoma22:


Unfortunately, it being mentioned that it not an OS update but rather it a whole new device with Jelly Bean

We shall see, hopefully our current device can be update till jellybean..
[Android Head-Units] lincolndroid:
WIFI cutting out

Is anyone having an issue where the WIFI is connected working fine then after a little while (5-10 minutes) it disconnects and does not show any networks available until i reset/reboot the system. Is there any fix or apps than can stop this from happening??

It turns the wifi off.... I go into settings to turn it back on and it keeps trying saying turning on and off about 3 times then goes back to wifi off....

Hopefully someone has seen this and knows a fix.
[Android Head-Units] G2k0:
Nice!!! I actually just ordered on of those for $3.29 (USD) on ebay. I've been using a 4 port un powered hub in mine, so far so good.

@ ransoma22 & urgodfather: Last I had spoken to the vendor (pumkin) I had asked the same question. At the time they said they said it was in progress (something about being unstable but in the works).

A bit off topic but have any of you tried (or is there a way) to run the HU's image off the Android SDK as a virtual device? I'd like to play around with it a bit as its kind of a pain to keep running in my car to do any tweaks etc. Does anyone know if this is even possible and if so point me in the right direction?
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
Are you using the WiFi dongle that came with the unit? If not, you will definitely run into problems. Which USB port do you have it plugged into? Are you using a USB Hub?

Sounds to me that it will not be the same device. They will more than likely use different components, AND it will more than likely be a dual boot setup as like many of the Android 4.0 devices on the market. MAYBE, there will be something usable. As for getting 4.0, Freescale hasn't released any source code for it. The latest available is 2.3.7. However, there is a release of source code from other companies. The biggest issue is that there is no hardware acceleration, only software. I've checked into it A LOT. Also, I'm still looking into getting the features (ipod, media player, dvd, tv, radio, etc.) ported over. This will not be easy. At the moment, I'm waiting for my i.MX53 QSB to arrive so that I can use it for testing builds. In regards to this, please

do not

bug me. I will share status updates as needed.

In the mean time, keep your fingers crossed that they won't change the hardware. If they don't, then all we need to do is get the firmware.
[Android Head-Units] erkme73:
Just thinking out loud here, but for those of you that would like to keep the unit on for X minutes longer after shutting down the ignition, you may want to consider the following:

1) Many newer cars have a delayed shut-off for the cigarette lighter and/or head light circuit. In my 2007 Tundra, the headlights and cigarette lighter both stay for a few minutes after the key is taken out. Using either circuit to drive the accessory power lead on the HU (directly or via relay) would provide power for those short engine-off moments.

2) Getting a timed 12V relay from eBay would provide power for x minutes after shut down.

Personally, I like the mentioned idea of hooking up both red and yellow to constant, and using Tasker to shut down the radio after XX minutes of no movement detected. Tasker is infinitely customizable, and you could even have a shut down warning pop up box with a count down for the last 30 seconds or so - giving the user an override if just sitting in a parking lot, for example.
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
Yeah, unfortunately I have had zero luck getting Tasker installed on this headunit. I am at a loss why it won't install.
[Android Head-Units] erkme73:
The longer I play with this unit, the harder it's becoming not to come down hard on the difficiencies like this. I'm at the 50/50 point, where I'm almost ready to say I regret the purchase.

1) No auto sync of Gmail

2) No access to Google contacts (directly or through any app that tries to reach contacts)

3) Severely restricted list of apps - though they show up in Play, they error out on install (error 942)

4) Cannot prevent last hardware-based app from opening after power cycle (i.e. DVD or Radio)

5) Severely crippled settings menu (no accounts, bluetooth, etc)

Some of these things have workarounds, but for this to be sold as PURE android, I think that's misleading. Yes, it's android, but it's stripped of all the functionality and practicality that makes an android product useful.

If all I wanted was an android-themed radio, this would fit the bill. But I was actually planning on using it like an Android device - you know, cloud-based functionality and all.

[/dismountingSoapbox]
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
Sounds like a case of First World Problems to me.

If you're wondering what that is... CLICK HERE.

Or you can view the image below.

As I've mentioned many times before... THIS IS A CAR STEREO! NOT A TABLET! NOT A PHONE! How many other HU's can you say provide even remotely the same functionality that is achieved? Not too many. Be happy with what it does, not complain about not checking your email, or youtube or any other problems you are occurring.

Oh, btw... have you tried closing all of the HW apps (i.e. radio, ipod, etc.) by holding the back button to COMPLETELY shut it down... then power it off?
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
I think you are being a bit patronizing. The fact is that the unit was sold as pure android, which clearly it isn't.

The issues are legitimate.
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
Maybe I am, but... at the same time.... maybe the impression or interpretation of "PURE" has been misconcieved. It IS pure android... as opposed to a dual boot config with the WinCE backbone.
[Android Head-Units] erkme73:
I won't disagree with you on that. But, there are elements of a device that I think should be present if it's sold as an Android system. Repeating that it's a just a stereo, doesn't change that fact.

Look at all the Android devices that are out there. From the gum-stick style HDMI TV adapters, to tablets, phones, and even computers, they all integrate tightly with Google servers. The entire premise and cornerstone of Google's OS is cloud computing - where all your data is stored, and accessible from ANY Android device.

You may not care that your contacts aren't accessible on your car stereo, but at least respect the fact that there are those of us out here who rightfully bought into the idea that a "pure Android" device should be able to do so.

An Android system without Google server integration is no better than a thin-client disconnected from its mainframe. Yes, it'll work as a stereo, but if that's all I wanted, I would have bought a regular stereo.
[Android Head-Units] urgodfather:
Firstly, I appologize that the previous 2 comments weren't even me. Instead, my co-worker took the liberty to post as me. Although I agree with his points, I wouldn't have been such a d**k about it. In regards to issues such as youtube, gmail, contacts, etc... Which would you think is more important? Tighter integration with Google, or JB? Personally, I think getting JB would be more beneficial... but if you would rather me put aside my current attempts toward this to help find a solution to address those minor deficiencies... then I will. I'm not the OP so I cant add a poll... but lets cast a vote...

Which accomplishment is more preferable? Android 4.0 or Tighter integration with Google

Keep in mind... Some of theses things MAY (and I stress MAY) be addressed in the builds that I have compiled. No, I'm not going to share them as they more than likely brick the unit. This is why I ordered a QSB to test them.
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
Honestly..I think a custom rom for this unit would solve the majority of issues. Having full gapps functionality, I think would be most beneficial.

The existing issues I can deal with for now.
[Android Head-Units] ewilson:
Today I Made a DATA DVD for someone at work. The files where AVI some where MP4. However when I put the Data DVD in there it came up on the screen with the files that where burned on the disc. The head unit then auto played the first file, I had to grab the remote and push title to get it back to the front menu screen. From there I can use the up and down and left and right button to choose which file I wanted to play. Hope this help you, just burn some files on a DATA DVD in all format to see which one plays. I think it will play all files it is worth a try.
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
Has anyone bothered to try extracting the necessary apks, such as AccountAndSyncSettings.apk, from a full 2.3.7 build and manually placing them in the \system\app folder, setting the correct permissions?

Obviously you would need to be on the rooted version by Hal9k_. I'll give this a shot when I get a chance. Perhaps later tonight or tomorrow and report back.

I agree with urgodfather though, you have to remember, this is a radio. It wasn't meant to function as a fully functional Android tablet. What it does, it does very well. While it may be possible to overcome some of it's limitations, for what it was designed to do, for me, it's pretty freaking amazing!

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] ewilson:
This is a radio, and to be real honesty about it, getting Netflix, pandaro, spotify, Tune-in, and to play videos of all formats to work, and to run at a fast speed is awesome it self. The name brand radios do not have this function of where you can surf the net while waiting for someone or netflix and other stuff on it. Having GMail, and contact sync is what your phone is for, or your tablet. And for the price of this radio that do way more than those brand names do I think is worth it. And like any other first Gen, device or 2nd Gen, it will get better. On top of that once more people get this radio and the following gets bigger I do see more Dev, adding more functions and making it better like every other Android device. If you want all that other stuff use your phone. I can say that My unit comes with Android 2.3.7 and I have the updated play store and all apps show up whenever I search for it.
[Android Head-Units] erkme73:
Gapps is what's missing. Android without them may look like Android, but it's not.

I do agree that having streaming Pandora and the other apps that work with a tethered connection are better than a stock radio, but this does not mean we shouldn't expect something marketed as Android to be missing the things that make it Android - Radio or toaster oven... irrelevant.

When custom roms com out for a phone, but during the initial growing pains, the camera or GPS doesn't work, you don't hear people say, "It's a phone, it makes calls great - who cares if the camera doesn't work!" The thing is, this stereo, stock from the manufacturer/seller came without basic Android functionality. If it was a custom rom, I'd take my lumps and wait. But as it is, these things are important.

Anyway, I'm glad to see there are a few who think the missing cloud functionality is an issue - and would hope that the manufacturer (or developers/chefs) who work on this put a priority on making the OS whole - making it as integrated as all other Android devices.

I'm done beating this horse. I'll now step aside and wait patiently for an update :)
[Android Head-Units] artash44:
I lost my Pandora Widget and I can't find it anymore

I was streaming Pandora audio and pressed on the Pandora widget and it just disappeared. I tried to replace it on the screen but it was no longer listed in the widgets list. I put Kicker speakers in my car with this headunit and I think it sounds pretty good when streaming music. My shark fin antenna on my Elantra did not pull signals well enough to really enjoy my classic rock station so I installed a	METRA 44-UA200

Universal Window Mount Car Antenna like this: http://www.frys.com/product/3721776?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG. The radio reception after installation of this to the top of the front windshield is only slightly better than my car original shark fin antenna. I'm wondering what else I can try.
[Android Head-Units] G2k0:
My two cents for whatever its worth. For starters all of us here who took the plunge to buy one of these units did so because of the price and functionality (which goes beyond whatever is currently out there). With that being said, we all knew going into this (from the spec's of the HU) that what was under the hood is a bit dated by today's market. Its like owning a 3 yr old smartphone. It is what it is people. Accept it. ;)

I for one would prefer to see better performance over lets say why I cant get my google contacts to sync or get my gmail working on it. Lets face it, your current smartphone is probably 100 times better at doing all that & then some! So why are we getting hung up on mere details?

Last but not least, urgodfather do whatever it is you want & need to do. Its all good man ;) Thanks and I think most of us would be happy to assist in whatever capacity we can.
[Android Head-Units] artash44:
JellyBean

What is the advantage of Jellybean? I mean the HU is still a single processor with limited ram. A lot of the improvements made to the Android mobile operating system was to take advantage of dual core processors and other features that require more advanced hardware. I am looking at the Wikipedia site : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Android_4.2_Jelly_Bean_.28API_level_17.29 and I wondering what will really get better?
[Android Head-Units] tsench:
thanks i been burning disc with all difference type of AVI so far this is what played on AVI format with output mpedivx the rest i just hear music no video
[Android Head-Units] ahdoublexl:
The only thing I would like to see.. is the ability to select what the default music playing apps are (so they open on boot), and full gapps functionality. It should be pretty safe to compile and flash a custom rom without risking bricking the unit, as it isn't touching the bootloader as far as I can tell. If android doesn't boot it can just be restored with the original firmware.
[Android Head-Units] G2k0:
Well for starters there are apps that dont work on 2.3.x. For example you cant install Chrome because it needs 4.0 and higher. Now is that a show stopper? No. Is it important to me? Of course not. Its a nice to have. Like I said, the important thing for me is performance & stability. I actually have one of those PC on stick (1st gen MK802) which has the same spec's more or less (excluding the memory / has 1 GB vs 512MB). It runs on JB 4.0 and its solid. Granted I just use it to watch movies on my TV but for what I want it do its perfect.

YES!!!! That would be an AWESOME FEATURE!!! I was thinking about that when I was playing around with winamp etc.

As far as wish lists go, I would love to be able to see a thumbnail of the album art from the songs being played off my ipod. Tend to use that alot for my music primarily because of its capacity. The other thing * which I have mentioned before * is that it seems that when you load up a large playlist it gets stuck on that list of songs and will NOT let you select any other songs (that random effect I've spoken of). Speaking of which, has anyone been able to export that apk? I would love to check out how its actually setup.

On a side note, I tried using the Android ADT (SDK) to see if I can load up the HU's system.img. Couldnt get it to work. I was however able to get CM7 to run (using the system.img I download) but not the HU's img file.