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[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I'm still uncertain about sense 5,honestly it seems even worse than what our vivids run, and the one still has htcs hideous notification bar, with the ugly wifi logo and gingerbread battery bar.

Bah screw all skins, pure android is the way to go
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] clockworkmodsucks:
Probably the HTC One. Might get the Motorola NXT because of the Blinkfeed in Sense 5. Unless a dev finds a way to remove it in a custom rom.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jafet420:
S4
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Just bought another nexus 4 for my wife, her vivid is now on ebay. So nexus 4 for both of us!

Honestly it's a perfect phone as long as you don't need lots of storage, which we don't. In fact, she's getting the 8gb model. I might have gotten the 8 gb for myself, but it went from 9 weeks to sold out when I purchased it, didn't wanna wait any longer so I grabbed a 16 gb model
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mubby93:
I ordered my nexus 4 last night. Can't Wait!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] yosoywilson78:
This one for the moment :p
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] flasozzi:
Nexus phones aren't popular in Brazil. I don't think they're even sold here, but then again HTC Vivid isn't either. I can have someone bringing one for me but it's such a pain when you need to buy accessories such as cases and screen protectors. They just don't deliver here and when they do, the shipping is absurd. This is my one and only regret concerning buying my Vivid.

The way I see it, currently the great advantage on buying a HTC phone is Sense, but I don't even use it anymore. I'm currently on a desensed ROM and loving it.

I got a Samsung Galaxy Tab and I love it. I hate TouchWiz but I don't use Sense either so that's not a problem. There are nice launchers out there.

I think I might get a SIII soon. I won't wait for the SIV since I've heard that initially it'll cost over R$2,000.

I also thought about getting a Galaxy Note but I believe they don't have a micro SD card slot and I have a 32GB card filled with songs & stuff so I don't wanna give that up.

The thing is, I do so many things with my phones, I mess with them so much that I get bored really quickly. ):
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 903tex:
Lol sounds just like me getting bored with devices quickly!

Some may not waste their time with craigslist(just depends on your area) but I gotten my second vivid for 40 dollars! Mint condition just needed a new battery I got off eBay for like 4 dollars shipped.

I buy sell fix so many phones on cl Im happy with my vivid!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] htcvividnoob:
Interesting that on ATT you can only preorder the One in Glacier Silver. It's still a tough decision between having to sign a 2 year contract, or waiting a few more months and seeing what the next Nexus has to offer. At $300 for the 64gb version, that's in Nexus prices, except for having to sign a crappy contract. Unfortunately being in areas with constant LTE access it would be really hard to go to a Nexus 4 :(
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] joseph881:
My friend has the Galaxy Note, and another the Note 2 phones. I can confirm that they both have mSD slots.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ProtheusIRC:
I want the S4. I love Sense but Touchwiz looks so effing clean.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] haloXgod117:
Probably the next nexus.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
http://phandroid.com/2013/04/09/att-skyrocket-jelly-bean/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

What is so significant about that?

The skyrocket was co released with the vivid as the first 2 lte phones on at&t. Samsung has provided them now with 2 major os updates, while the vivid rots away on a broken half assed ics rom raped by sense 3.6.

And on that note, definitely gotta recommend the s4 over the One. Samsung may take a while, but you'll get your updates, htc if you do get an update, it'll probably be broken. And you get a Samsung, you have alot of option if you don't feel like waiting, no wire tricks or ril cracks required!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] camo_flage:
HTC hasn't even announced what 2011 devices will get jellybean and its April already like what kind of consumer support is that
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Yeah they acted like some 2011 devices would get jelly bean, but as of now everything that didn't get sense 4.0 hasn't gotten an update past ics.

Really a crappy deal. Thing is I got my vivid mid March 2012, and it was still considered a high end smartphone at that point and was only out a couple months. I'm still under contract for another year because of that upgrade. I really just don't know how htc can expect repeat business when they keep abandoning their phones to focus on new ones.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] camo_flage:
I know at first they said sense 4 would come to our device then they are like performance issues blah blah blah. Now they won't give us jellybean when our device could clearly handle it. Last phone I get from HTC and Samsung already updated the s2 to jellybean...WHICH IS AN OLDER DEVICE THAN THE VIVID.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Yeah 4.1 is fast as hell. Anything that can run ics can run jellybean.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gabriel1946:
HTC is my fav choice of phones but the s4 looks bad ass I'm thinking about the HTC one x or nexus 4
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Shajoe:
Hate to say this but..... IPhone 5
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Eww talk about a down grade :P lol

But really whatever fulfills your wants/needs, hope you enjoy it :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Honestly I have to say if you content with at&t, don't care about updates, the first is great value at $99 on contract. It's got stock 4.1 and facebook home can easily be disabled for a stock experience. And it's not ridiculously large either.

Of course this is xda, I dunno who on here would want it, and as cm10 improves, it doesn't make it much of an upgrade from a cm10 powered vivid, downgrade in some areas ie non removable battery, no sd slot, 5mp camera etc. And if we're talking no commitment, the nexus 4 is world's ahead on value. But still a great phone for the general public
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Shajoe:
I already have a Nexus 7 so I will still be enjoying the android life lol.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Sharpenologist:
Galaxy Note 10.1 has a microSD slot ...

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note_10.1/specifications.html?type=find

-dmm
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lilmikey201:
galaxy s4!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Yeah I'm defiantly getting the sgs4...

Also...am I the only one that doesn't like the HTC One design??? Everyone seems to love it...but I think the dual front speakers are ugly...I can't stop focusing on those...just takes away so much...maybe it looks better in person but from picture the dual speakers look hideous...not to mention its just a marketing trick (two speakers doesn't make it any louder)

Actually after viewing more pics....the black one looks very nice as the speakers don't standout...but the white one...ewww
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kanoog:
Im trying to squeeze out the last bit of life from my vivid

as for the next phone probably going with S4 but im intrigued to try one of those low cost phones see how the experience is like the Micromax A116
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ilista:
I LOVE my Vivid and I've been an HTC fan since the Nexus One, but the HTC One (family) is such a FAIL in my book I'm gonna go back to using a Nexus, just for wide adoption and ease of ROM swapping.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] TemporaryTester:
SGS4.

I think the One looks hideous in both black and white. Omitting the microSD and not having a replacable battery (my Raider's battery is already virtually gone) are big black marks. I don't like the capacitative buttons (I really want the SGS4's physical home button), nor the home button's position. Plus, I never watch videos on my phone without headphones, so "BoomSound" is both worthless and hideous IMO.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Finally someone who seems to share my opinion on the ones looks...so ugly lol can't believe so many people think it looks better than he sgs4. Anyways my sgs4 is scheduled for delivery by 7pm today...a couple.days before in store release :D
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jtsurfs:
I'm leaning away from AT&T with my next device. I get a decent discount with AT&T but with TMo new plans it would be cheaper to go over there. I like the Nexus 4 and really am interested in the Nexus 5 (or whatever the next Nexus will be). I also like the LG Optimus G, which the Nexus is closely related to. HTC has finally burned me out. And I have had at least 8 different HTC devices. Going back to the 8525 on Cingular (AT&T). The device I liked the most was the Inspire (Desire HD) and I replaced it with the Vivid hoping for a similar love affair with this phone. The community seems to have fragmented for this device with a lot of people mad and leaving XDA, as well as messed up code with regards to all the driver issues. I won't be getting another HTC device, thats for sure.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
I'm not gonna bash the SGS4, it looks like an excellent device that will make a lot of people happy. That said, I've had my One for 5 days now and it is truly the most amazing phone I've ever had. Granted, there are some things that I would have done differently, and some configurations that I don't necessarily like, but that's where the fun starts.

The thing that was nice about my Inspire was the amount of development available for it. But why was that? It wasn't because ATT released a cool phone, it was because it's identical twin sister, the Desire HD, was available internationally, which attracted huge development attention. The introduction of the msm8660 devices was so fragmented, it was like they were all fathered by the same dude but born to different women, with the Vivid being the bastard red-headed step-son (sorry for the crude analogy, and to all the gingers out there), which spread development all over the place. So the love that the Vivid, Holiday, and Raider did get, while awesome for a while, was short lived due to multiple reasons. Same thing happened with the One X and X+, ATT got their own specific versions (compatible with Bell and Rogers), while the international community had their version, so again, development, while better than the Vivid, still wasn't where a community like this hopes it would be. This brings me to the One - which is just that, the ONE. There's one GSM variant that are all the same device, internationally, developer's edition, and att edition (though the ATT does have an ATT globe branded on it). What's also great about this? I unlocked the bootloader and rooted on day one. The international version has already gotten a couple updates, so this means I have them too. Development for the One is taking off, and it's just the beginning. Apparently cyanogen himself (and h8rift and a bunch of the other big names) already have it, h8's already got an alpha cm 10.1 build out - it's a fun place to be right now. Unfortunately the removable battery and external SD aren't going to be developed in :), but I'm OK with 32gb storage. Had they went with a 16 and 32 gb model rather than 32 and 64, I might be singing a different tune.

I'm not saying the SGS4 won't get the same love, I'm sure it will. I'm just pointing out that the One is in a slightly different boat than it's predecessor's, and I don't want anyone to miss out just because HTC's dropped the ball previously.

As for you guys not liking the build quality/looks, I need me some of what you're smoking lol TETO
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Yeah I think the one is the best looking phone hands down no contest. But I gotta wonder one thing: they omitted the recent apps button in favor of double tapping home. That sounds fine on paper but what about those pesky apps that still require a menu button? On the one x, long pressing recent apps accessed the menu button.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
That is annoying... They've taken care of that by including the on screen 3 dot menu bar (even more annoying, it was the first thing I got rid of. No menu is better than taking up screen real estate) There are already mods that will enable long press back for menu. And there's also custom kernel work being done that is actually using the HTC logo as a 3rd button for menu. Apparently the sensor bar goes the whole way across..they only activated spots for two buttons though
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Yeah one is a greqt device . Amd the black one looks good...just dont like the white one as the soeakers really seem to standout...anyways hardware/specs...the two are very similar both have the snap600...and I hear you no lomger have to fastboot flash boot.img so htc def seems to be getting better. ..and im glad...samsumg on thw 9therhand seems to be going backwords...locked bootloadrlera wtf samsung??? And ni root yet...but then again the ph9ne isnt wven released in stores till tomorrow/saturday

Anyways-as you can prob tell my sgs4 is here and im using it...ao far im in love...huge speed and smoothness comapred to the vivid

And to anyone out there lookimg to uograde...whether its the One or Sgs4.mmyour going to oove it and its going to be much better than the vivid...I really suggest going to stores and trying both out...and decide from there

Btw...sorry for bad spelling...still getting used to the new keyboard plus got the stupid texting and driving can wait cover on until my screen cover comes tomorrow...so kinda hard to see what im writing :P
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I didn't even realize it was out. Crazy
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Tachnically its not out...official release for ATT is tomorrow. ..I preordered qnd they shipped out preorders early :D...im loving it so far tho...cant see ANY pixels
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
I will say that's a plus for the s4.. some people are still waiting for preordered ones from what I understand. Samsung's superior marketing at play.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I'd get a gs3 over a one if I was going to get a carrier phone again. I love the one think it's a better phone, and think Samsung really is just ok, and the difference is marketing that keeps them up on top. Unfortunately however my flyer and vivid have left a bad taste in my mouth with htc. I don't trust them, in their quest to constantly reinvent themselves, they screw over customers that spent good money to get their older products. Contracts are 2 years, I don't think it would of been 2 much to ask to keep the vivid supported for 2 years. It's a phone that came after the droid bionic, before the galaxy nexus and co-released with the skyrocket just to name a few, and all 3 of those phones are running newer versions of android, and still being supported. HTC probably doesn't even remember the vivid existed!

And I hate sense, if I had to use a skinned phone, touchwiz > sense any day. Sense 5 still seems like more of the same crap.

However now that I have 2 nexus devices, I'm never going back to the world of contracts, skins, and update waiting games. The nexus 4 is absolutely the best phone I've ever used and stock Android is perfect, no forks or skins are necessary. Very happy with my choice, so happy I bought the wife one. Sold one vivid, kept the other for a toy, got cm10 running on it
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
Lol your opinions are strong.. and that's definitely healthy. Completely agree with the quoted part

Though I am a fan of sense and aosp over touchwiz.. but to each their own. This is why we don't have iPhones lol
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Yeah I gotta be fair, I haven't used touchwiz much since 3.0, it was fairly light then, really just launcher, dialer, camera, and messenger were changed, otherwise it was all stock. The new touchwiz devices I've played with in stores are quite a bit heavier, and Samsung drives me nuts with that stupid menu button... Didn't they get the memo? As of 4.0 the menu button is phased out, so stop putting it on your crap! I really agree with googles decision, the menu button that triggers a menu that comes up on the bottom relates more to a physical button device. Android was planned for blackberry style devices until apple changed everything, and you can tell with the g1,as the touchscreen is part of the input but almost not necessary between it's full qwerty board, trackball, call and hang up buttons, and 4 menu keys. Over time google started transitioning to full touchscreen, and the menu button was the last thing left that kept it a button device, so time to kill it. Samsung however does what they want, flips the finger at Google, and keeps the menu button.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
It's pretty obvious that everyone is still working on the perfect button arrangement. Take the one for example, the home button single press takes you home (or to the app drawer depending where you were to begin with), double tap launches recent apps, and long press opens Google now search. In early videos it showed you could configure back button long press for menu. When released this option was removed. There are a few mods that add this functionality back, including the one I did for the AT&T base and others that are added to the custom roms. Still, that's only two functions on the second of two buttons when the other button has three functions. If the home button has three functions, the back button certainly should too. Single press should be back, long press should kill the app, double tap should open the menu. I think that's ideal for a 2 capacitive button setup when a physical menu button has been phased out.

A lot of these things are configurable with 3rd party launchers along with their advanced gestures.. but there are certain functions your hardware buttons should perform out of the box.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Idk about the One...but with ky sgs4 im getting much faster LTE...went from average 22mb down on the Vivid to average 43mb down on my sgs4...or couod just be a coincidence. ..either way im loving these lte speeds even more than before
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
Unfortunately I still am not in an lte area grr.. but I've seen similar lte speeds posted from the one. Wish I could confirm. ....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Your missing out man!!! Lol I remember when I thought lte wasnt even a big deal...but once you experience it...its like being addicted to meth (not that ive done meth) you simply cant get enough and you find your self only using wifi when your almost out of data ahahah
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
You're making me want it more (similar to meth im sure)..interestingly purple pills just started playing.. lte is 5 times (literally) faster than my home internet. Not to mention I still have unlimited data so I'd use the hell out of that crap (again similar to meth I'm sure). I've only been on it (lte) once.. but I just want more (like meth? This is turning into an interesting analogy)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
Take a trip to Lancaster, Reading, or Allentown....

I get LTE in all 3...

Also Wilkes barre has it... as does center city Philadelphia...

But I figure Lancaster is prolly closer...

Not sure about northern central PA...

Maybe state college?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] homeslice976:
Nope.. south central. Im in Carlisle (newville actually but some people don't admit that). Harrisburg finally got it recently but that's the closest it's gotten. I was on it once in Baltimore.. again.. lte that is, not meth.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
ROFLMAO

If memory serves... you might get LTE near Letterkenny[sp]... the army base should have it... but not advertise...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Loving my gs4s battery life View attachment 1915502View attachment 1915506

And still got a ways to go..can prob make it to 5.5-6 hours screen on time...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I'm pretty happy overall with my n4's battery life. I usually get 16-20 hours out of it. I mean it could be better but it still owns the vivid.

Overall if you don't need storage, there's really no reason not to get the nexus 4. Minus the storage situation, it really is the best. I've kept mine all stock, have no intentions of unlocking the bootloader, fine with stock Android. And the best part is freedom, you can go to any gsm carrier you want, no contracts, it's your phone paid in full for about the same price as a flagship Verizon phone that's fully subsidized. Very happy with this phone, highly recommend it!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
Hey mg, gotta ask, does the Samsung lockscreen have lockscreen widget support? It's a feature of 4.2, however I believe the galaxy s4 is the first device with a non stock version of 4.2
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Yes it does...even multi widgets per lockscreen acording to the lockscreen settings...

After owning the device for a few days now...there are only two things that annoy me

1) stock keyboard doesnt have an auto correct setting!!!

2) stock launcher doesnt have scrollable wallpaper!!!

Both can be fixed by installing third parties...but I want to keep it stock for a little while so I can learn the phone and how it works stock
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
http://phandroid.com/2013/04/30/att-galaxy-s4-bootloader/

You've got to be kidding me! Every previous Samsung device on at&t was unlocked! What the hell Samsung?

And I know it's carriers choice but Samsung is big enough to call their own shots! If at&t said they had to do it and Samsung threatened to pull the s4 from them, at&t would back down.

If you can't get a Samsung without it being locked down then what? I guess it's nexus or nothing now for developers... Sigh
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
AFAIK... if you wanna see something amazing... check out the Motorola defy...

Somehow... they managed to port ICS to the device with the froyo boot loader...

So locked and unlocked boot loaders only means so much
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
For the samsung infuse (my first phone) they were able to port 4.2.2 with only gingerbread bootloaders...but the thing is without an unlocked bootloader nothing can begin to happen so in a way locked and unlocked bootloader means EVERYTHING...its what sparks development into action - just think if the vivids bootloader was not able to be unlocked we would all be stuck on stock...same goes with every phone

---------- Post added at 07:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:20 AM ----------

Yep AdamOutler is working on an unlock right now...and last year when the s3 was released he said that since samsung let verizon lock the s3 bootloader that soon all the carriers would follow...alot of people did not believed him, but now look..att has joined the boat of locked bootloaders

And no...the carriers have much more power than samsung...all att has to do is say they wont sell the device...samsung inatantly loses millions of sales. Att makes no money on phone sales, they make their money on their service so they dont really worry about phone sales...just about how many people are using there service...plus we are in the minority...the majority of s4 users dont and will never know about the bootlader being locked...xda only has hundred or low thousands of users for each major device versus the millions that are out in the world
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Cor-master:
I have to disagree, not having the newest galaxy is the same as not having the iphone. People would just switch to whatever carrier has it

Btw I remember adamoutler from my Captivate days. Still making stuff for Samsung huh?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mg2195:
Sigh...xda is full of a bumch of trolls and/or idiots http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40911113

Adam stated the only posts allowed in the thread were those that contributed to unlocking the bootloader...if your post didnt contribute than it didnt belong. ..I hope these idiots dont chase adam away turning my s4 into another htc vivid experience