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[Android Head-Units] Pop45398:
#1 It is normal if your car's instrument lights are coming on and you have the illumination wire connected to them. The head unit's illumination wire is meant to be connected to your instrument lights so the unit dims when you have them on. Perhaps the illumination wire is connected to the wrong circuit if this is not the case. Disconnect the illumination wire if you don't care for automatic dimming.

#2 The Park wire needs to be connected to ground to allow video playback while driving.
[Android Head-Units] kaween:
Hi ! I'm glad to see you got something that works. :good:

But

.. that last sentense puzzled me a bit. "Since It prohibited to use headlights in the daytime ...." Euh ? As I understand it, the unit will trigger a delay-off timer starting the moment you switch of the headlights, so logically speaking, that would only work in a country where you MUST have your headlights (Or DRL's) ON. Otherwise your radio will shut down after 11 minutes of driving, no ? ;)

I mean, it only makes sense to me if your setup triggers the timer from the moment you switch the lights OFF, so if you're PROHIBITED to run the car at daytime running headlights ... I euh ... you lost me there.

Also, as you're clearly not "all thumbs", could you give us an idea what power (Amperes) the Unit draws while working, and how much it consumes when "off, but not cut from power" ? I'm sure quite a lot of people are very interested in those values.

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@Krikke

What are the parameters of Torque wich it uses to communicate with the USB OBD cable ?

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@Krikke : By the way, congrats with your unit and I'm happy your pleased with it. I hope it will serve you long and well. I looked at the unit too, but it was a bit out of my price league : With OBD and DVB-T, the total price would be well above 900€ in my case. That far too much for a poor dude like me. ;)
[Android Head-Units] -krikke-:
Ok so the wiring is correct as the unit is brighter when engine is off and slightly less brighter when the engine is on...

Concerning #2:

This method is for bypassing the DVD lock while driving no? I don't need this bypass (as I don't watch and drive), I only want to watch when the engine is off... Now the warning screen is always on... even when the engine is off.

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Thank you!

I know the unit isn't cheap but for the moment there is no 'cheaper' unit with the specs I wanted:

-fast cpu

-lots of memory

-100% Android

-capacitive screen

-red LED lights

-Torque compatible out of the box

Since I am no expert, I decided to pay more and have everything working out of the box...

Yes I am very happy with the unit. As soon as I turn iginition key I have radio sound and in the meantime Android is booting. +-10 seconds later Android 2.3.3 is fully loaded!

Concerning Torque: if you can tell me where to find the parameters, I would be happy to help. Sorry I ask this but I am not an Android or gadget expert... ;)
[Android Head-Units] artash44:
External Mic via OTG USB

I have purchased a Virtual 5.1 3D Sound USB to Audio Microphone Card Adapter For PC from Ebay. I am hoping this will enable an external microphone to the radio.
[Android Head-Units] kaween:
Won't work I think (for handsfree calling I presume ?) Gingerbread doesn't support stuff like that; questions like that (soundinput over USB) has been a request for Android-based devices since ... euh .... a couple of years, haven't seen it materialize yet.

That means the unit gives priority to the handbrake signal. Not illogical : the easiest way to ensure (legally) for the headunit that you don't drive'n watch is exactly the status of the handbreake. I'd just put the signal on mass and "s*** you" : I'm sure we're all aware you shouldn't be watching TV/DVD while driving and neither of us needs some "forced by law" rule to be that smart. :D
[Android Head-Units] Saxerud:
Bad english and a little update

Oops. I just dont think my english is that good anymore, I meant forced by law that you should use headlight during daytime( not prohibited) :)

Seems like I have to do a little adjustment to the wiring i described allso. By sending power to the acc-cable when my key is out, is detected by the CCM or something, since my remote will not lock the doors when there is power to the HU (via the timer delay relay). So I'll just have to use the 87 terminal of the 87a relay to the acc-cable of the HU, and the acc-cable from my ignitionswitch to trigger that relay. This way I will have power via the 87 terminal when the key is in, and power from the timed relay, when I pull out the key. Obviosly thats the way I should have done it in the first place, just didn't think of it. :)

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I have another censern with my unit. Sometimes when I turn of my ignition, the unit will not shut down completely, the screen turns off, but the buttons still lights up. And when I turn on my ignition again, the unit will not respond at all. Only thing that works to solve this is to press the reset button. Then everything is normal again. This allso happened before I installed the timer delay relay i have posted about, so that shouldn' be the problem. I thought it might be a software issue, so i reflashed the unit, but it still happens now and then. Will resetting to factor settings reset more than a reflash? Any ideas?
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
This sounds promising, but that link you provided does not work. Can you check again to see if its right?

Thank you!
[Android Head-Units] lincolndroid:
Confirmed link posted showing as not found... please check! Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] XlipZ:
Thankyou everyone, i´ll try with the interface because i got a aftermarket steering wheel

Indeed Hal9k... it was a great news... Tnkz in Advance :laugh:
[Android Head-Units] Hal9k_:
Link is corect: 4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=314557&view=findpost&p=19624233

Remove space before last digit "3". Blame the stupid spam protection on this site.
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
Hal9k,

It does not work. Does one have to be a forum member to view it? Its almost impossible to register because of the Russian verification image.
[Android Head-Units] lincolndroid:
same result

Hal,

Having same problem here cannot get page to come up..
[Android Head-Units] XlipZ:
Guys i figured out how acess the forum... the topic is only visible with registration..

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=314557&st=1720#entry19624233

PS: i dont put the direct file link because i dont know if Hal9k will like it or this is allowed here in xda

To pass the registration Captcha all that cyrillic and number means: NUMBER, PLUS, NUMBER

Ex: if apears 79лпсю22равно its means 79+22 = 101

101 will be the code to put in the captcha response
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
Awseome, thank you both!

Just registered, downloaded the firmware, and will give it a go shortly!
[Android Head-Units] lincolndroid:
Awesome ....registration worked beautifully!!! Downlowned file.... will try it later...just gotta double check.. pretty sure I have capacitive screen... anyway to tell easily?

Thanks a million guys!!

Anyone else tried it yet!
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
Installed and working perfectly! Have root access!!! Thank you again Hal9k!

Capacitive is like your phone, easy to register touches, multi-touch, etc. Resistive is more pressure sensitive and no multi-touch. Much harder to use.
[Android Head-Units] lincolndroid:
Thanks !! Gonna give mine a shot now... did u do MCU update then system?
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
Yes, MCU update, when unit turns off, hold any button on the unit and press volume button to turn on.
[Android Head-Units] lineyho:
cant register or translate

I am having a problems registering and translating and can't get to the links and files. Is there anywhere else I can get them. I have this same unit and am interested in rooting. Thanks
[Android Head-Units] greekstile:
Use Google Chrome browser which can translate automatically. As pointed our previously, the verification image to register is just a matter of adding the two numbers shown and typing in the answer. After that, go to that post and download the file.
[Android Head-Units] easyc:
Hey everyone.

The images in this thread aren't showing up for me, so I'm wondering if this is the unit we are talking about....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Android-6-2...r_Audio_In_Dash_Receivers&hash=item2324e6c702

If so, I have the same unit in my car, and would love to have it rooted with the ability to use a USB OBD2 adapter. I noticed someone posted an MCU update for the unit on a Russian site, but I get 404 errors when trying to visit it. Any chance someone could host the MCU update here? Also, what is the process for updating the MCU on this unit. I know on the ca-fi it's through the bluetooth app.

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] spazfishy:
Hey thanks so much for the rooted rom!

For the early adopters, does the rom seem to be stable? Does this change anything else from stock rom besides adding root and allowing Bluetooth usb dongles? Any chance we can get an updated Android version from this?

Besides allowing the ability to install custom roms what will root do to enhance this radio? Please forgive my newbness.

Thanks

:o
[Android Head-Units] kirill.lrnv:
hi everyone
[Android Head-Units] kirill.lrnv:
It looks similar, the description is the same as for my unit(bought it on e-bay as well). This rooted firmware works well on mine!

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You would not be able to use the External bluetooth without root, now we have a good start to figure out how to connect thinks like wifi camera etc.

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Finally! there is a rooted firmware on my unit! Working well, haven't noticed any errors. I haven't received my ELM327 yet, but I strongly believe it will work!

Hal9k- Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] vwman:
Thanks! Спасибо!

Спасибо вам большое за ваш труд!!!

Thank you very much for your hard work!!!

Scott
[Android Head-Units] kirill.lrnv:
Hal9k 's - post. Rooted Firmware. Translation of the post on 4pda

Hal9k 's - post. Translation of the post on 4pda

""So, thanks to the advice of whd. Finally, I made a firmware for our State TH8581-based on: "2013.1.7.MCU +2.10.6-1-10-1 + 系统 +2.12.32. Zip". Which adds support for external USB-Bluetooth adapter. So we can connect “Bluetooth ELM 327” Link: 2013.1.7.MCU+2.10.6-1-10-1+system+2.12.32+root+bt.rar ( 58.54 МБ )Кол-во скачиваний: 30

The bluetooth adapter must be plugged in to the rear USB connector , a four-port USB hub can be used.

Ca-Fi and TN8581 - two different units, similar in appearance. This firmware is for the Chinese TN8581, not for Ca-Fi!

If you have a radio with a capacitive screen, before firmware update, you must replace ” u-boot-skip.bin” with “u-boot-skip.bin.capacitive” (rename by removing .capacitive)

The list of Compatible Generic Bluetooth adapters can be found here. I use this adapter here.

I don’t advise to use Chinese adapters with dx and ali on clone of CSR chip. It loses connection and sometimes, comes up with an error of 7 ghost devices.

To turn on the Bluetooth and establish connection to ELM 327, you can use any third-party application such as “Quick Bluetooth Lite” that can manage Bluetooth settings.

Known issue: If an external Bluetooth enabled, the radio tries to pair with it. But, since “Torque” able to turn on or off Bluetooth, it is not very scary.

As an extra, now you can share files with your phone via Bluetooth.

All done, time to go make a pizza.""

To update firmware, simply unzip files to the root of SDcard. Turn off the device(ignition on), insert SDcard; while holding "menu" button push power button. That simple.
[Android Head-Units] MANDROIDS:
Any updates from Developers?

All the posts lately have been about wiring and installation. Nothing about updates.

Are the developers out there? I thought there were 2 or 3. It's been very quiet.

Please let us know whats going on.

PS Thank you for all your time and efforts!!
[Android Head-Units] xandercom:
What difference does that make?
[Android Head-Units] Pop45398:
The unit goes into some kind of sleep mode for about 5 seconds when the ignition is turned off, at least it does on mine. Turning the ignition back on during that time turns the unit back on instantly on mine, and with the engine off and ignition and unit on, if I crank it the unit goes into that sleep mode then back on instantly once started.

The only issue I've had with turning the unit on is a couple of times it has frozen at a white screen. Pressing and holding the volume button till it shuts off, waiting the 5 seconds or so to completely shut down, then pressing volume again to turn it on.
[Android Head-Units] kaween:
Hi. Start Torque, Go To OBD settings. It's probably indicated as "Connection type : Wired". Would like to know the details seen there.

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As I understand it, those type of devices don't just run a stripped down version of Android, it's more like they're running a completly neutered -borderline android emulation- one, making it pretty much impossible to do anything else than the manufacturer shipped the device with.

There's a nice chap some comments down who's pretty clear about his experiences with such a WinCE+Android devices in his Ford as he's written quite an informative comment on it, and allthough there's no way for me to be sure about this, I think his story will hold true for 99,99% of all these hybrid devices.

Don't get me wrong, I really hope your device turns out to be way better than the one he got, but when I look at the specs of all the WinCE+Android machines and their screenshots, I can't shake the impression they're all the same with exception of outer housing and trimmings.
[Android Head-Units] -krikke-:
I took photo's of all the parameters... I hope these can help you.
[Android Head-Units] festor:
Exactly right kaween. The Android side of the unit I received only had access to GPS and wireless/3G. The WinCE side controlled the radio, dvb-t, dvd, bluetooth and system settings etc. It worked reasonably well, but felt clumsy and unrefined. The media player for example just played files and that’s it… no timer or status. You couldn’t even jump to a specific point. Android was added as an afterthought and was even more stripped down than the version on the “pure” unit. I couldn’t get anything other than the bundled version of IGO to run. I tried paid, free and archived versions of all the popular sat nav apps with no luck. Even if I did get one to work it would have taken over 4 min to be usable. If it’s any use to anyone the unit was listed as a “Telechips TCC8900 Evaluation Board” in the play store.

They may have sorted the compatibility and boot time issues with android 4.0 and the faster cpu, but I personally would not risk going for a dual boot system now.

Back to the pure unit :)

I have gone through the whole thread again and cannot see any mention of the built in media player (piano logo) playing folders/albums backwards. I’m now wondering if there is something I’m doing wrong? A folder with files 01 – 12 for example with start with 12 and work down. Even the track advance button goes to the lower number. There must be a setting I have missed. My media plays perfectly in Winamp, playerpro and vlc, but I just need a basic player that can be mapped to the facia buttons so the bundled one would be perfect if I could just sort the order. I haven’t rooted or upgraded anything (see attached) because in the most part everything works, but if it was the only way to sort the problem I can. Not even sure the updates will work with my unit though.
[Android Head-Units] mister7000:
Uff finally someone is been able to get the aswc-1 working the steering wheel controls. I pracyically gave up on it.

Questions: could you please elaborate in your setup.

I have the aswc conected using the stereo phone plug with the two wires conected to key1 and key2 and its programed (pressed the vol up on steering wheel) to my 2013 dodge grand caravan. I know its properly programed because of the light patern on the aswc-1. Since there are two wires I tried one way and the tried reversing the wires.

Then I went to the assign screen on the radio and assign the buttons. I feel that worked because I can see them getting assign.

But then when I press the buttons after asigning them, nothing happens.

You mention you set up adapter to metra OE.

What is that means ?

Btw: im running hal2k rooted firmware and wondered if that actually deleted any module pertaining to the steering wheel controls.

Are you running any special firmware ?

And if so, Did you backup/restore any apps ?

Thanks..

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Uff finally someone is been able to get the aswc-1 working the steering wheel controls. I pracyically gave up on it.

Questions: could you please elaborate in your setup.

I have the aswc conected using the stereo phone plug with the two wires conected to key1 and key2 and its programed (pressed the vol up on steering wheel) to my 2013 dodge grand caravan. I know its properly programed because of the light patern on the aswc-1. Since there are two wires I tried one way and the tried reversing the wires.

Then I went to the assign screen on the radio and assign the buttons. I feel that worked because I can see them getting assign.

But then when I press the buttons after asigning them, nothing happens.

You mention you set up adapter to metra OE.

What is that means ?

Btw: im running hal2k rooted firmware and wondered if that actually deleted any module pertaining to the steering wheel controls.

Are you running any special firmware ?

And if so, Did you backup/restore any apps ?

Thanks..
[Android Head-Units] xandercom:
Thanks for both of your responses guys.

This is the unit I have bought:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Doubl...5?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item27d35e0cef

You are correct. Now I have delved into the specifications on the ebay page it does say it runs win CE, yet on the overview it says android 4.0, and states "android chip cpu 1ghz".

Completely confused now as to what the hell I have coming in the post over the next two days.

This is a video of what I see now is android 2.3. I had not realised that the 4.0 version is some kind of fake ICS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkzUIF4qF7k

Does it seem an improvement on your experience with the software? This one is version 2.3. To me it looks to function just like any other android device, bar the car-specific apps such as the radio etc.

I had the choice between v2.3 of v4. Are you suggesting that the version 4 is actually not true android, but the version 2.3 is?
[Android Head-Units] festor:
The tuner, media player and phone apps from the youtube review look like the same bundled ones you get with this pure android unit which run 2.3. The ones in the ebay link look more like the options you get with the better WinCE units and there is no back button on the facia that you normally get with android only units. Maybe the MEU button works like the back button? The ebay one is also running 4.0 and I notice it has a separate icon for android and they mention Bluetooth is disabled in android. I suspect it has a WinCE backend. I haven’t seen any android only units with 4.0.

Either way it has a much nicer looking interface, more ram and a much faster cpu so I’m sure it will be much more usable than the WinCE unit I had.

Btw, I would bet alexradio2012 is the same company as alexcardvd which is another pumpkin company. They have the same stock and identical terms etc. It’s a little worrying that they sell through so many different names.
[Android Head-Units] xandercom:
Yeah I think you guys have nailed it. I'm a little annoyed to say the least that they would disguise android 4.0 as running on a CE base.

I notice the unit has two MMC card slots. I bet one is for windows CE and the other for android perhaps.

So, I guess I wont be able to play DVD's or radio from inside the android OS, wont be able to use bluetooth handsfree in it either. I wonder how well they are integrated. Could I continue listening to the radio once I go into the android system, and would the CE system still be connected to my phone while I'm in the android OS? How irritating. When I asked for the device to be upgraded to 4.0 instead of 2.3 I paid an additional $30, plus another $50 for the upgrade to the capacitive screen.

Now it looks as if I've paid more money and worse off!

DHL is due to deliver it tomorrow. I wonder if I would be better off rejecting the delivery, waiting for it to be returned to Hong Kong, opening a paypal dispute, waiting god knows how long for that to conclude (otherwise they would surely only give a refund minus the shipping costs).

Had to pay £21 in customs charges before heathrow would release it, probably won't see that again.

I wouldn't mind if it were possible to simply treat the CE system as just another background app, so I can use Android as the main system (just hitting that android icon when starting the car), and I guess streaming radio over the tether to my unlimited data plan on 3. I just worry that if I had an incoming call while in android, I'd have to leave that OS, go back to CE and hope it pairs and picks up the call. What is your experience in the two OS's running side by side? Does CE continue to run after entering android, or does entering droid end CE, and with it the pairing to your phone and whatever radio station you were listening to?

*angryface*

What a mug.
[Android Head-Units] festor:
Unlike the android only one, my old unit had two working sd card slots. One was for android only and the other was accessible by both os. The media player was much better on the android side and could play any audio/video file type, but it took ages to boot so I ended up using the terrible WinCE one. Android and WinCE both run simultaneously. The radio played and the phone stayed connected while using android, but I ended up installing a parrot kit because even with my phone book transferred it only ever showed incoming calls with numbers. Your unit looks quite a bit newer though and they might have sorted that problem.

Pumpkin and their other companies mark the value of these shipments at $120 so it keeps the import tax lower than it could be ;) I would give the unit a try and if it’s not suitable then return it on the basis it is not clear that it also runs WInCE. It’s clear they try to hide it. Although it mentions it in tiny print if you click the “specification” button it doesn’t mention it in the main listing or “item specifics” section. Also, the specification button (javascript) doesn’t seem to work in ie10 or firefox for me… only in chrome. IMHO this merits a full refund, but they specifically mention they aren’t responsible for import taxes/return shipping. Raise a dispute with ebay and see what they say?