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[Android Head-Units] shunsai:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is correct. The XTRONS TD620A is not a S150 variant. I don't remember off the top of my head what the difference is, but I believe TD620A is more an OUKU variant than an S150. TD620A is capacitative (multi-touch). I don't remember S150 being mentioned as such.

I really do wish someone with an S150 would start a separate thread. This is getting out of hand.

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I've been meaning to post it here, but I've been having wifi issues with my unit too. It connects alright, but often in the middle of downloading any file bigger than 3-5 mb, the connection stalls and I have to try resetting the connection a few times. It's hard to explain how often or to what degree it happens. I don't connect to my wifi very often, but it was something I noticed that I wondered if it was an issue for anyone else.
[Android Head-Units] Orisai:
I wish someone at xda would create a new forum for Android car stereos so we can discuss this stuff in a more organized way.
[Android Head-Units] shunsai:
That would be even better!
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
I second that as well, that would make sense, at the same time it would spread this information kind of thin...

Don't get me wrong getting through reading this sucked, and I forgot all the good stuff I read between the "how do I connect this and that"s, to the point that apparently I can't even tell an OUKU from an S150 :rolleyes:

But a lot of this stuff applies to both, if we start spreading units in different threads we'll have few people (and even fewer developers - if there is any left in this thread) in each, following and answering just on the thread that concerns the unit they have. I litterally just ordered mine and I "believe" it's a OUKU (item # 161127539764 on ebay) , but I feel I could contibute and answer questions for S150 users in some cases. And could learn something from them, but I would probably end up following the OUKU specific thread more than others...

Just minutes ago I was trying to figure out how to make a few pages in the wiki here to sum things up and refer to relevant posts, but I'm not sure where to start given that it seems everything is categorized by manufacturer and we're not even sure OUKU is the manufacturer or the only manufacturer for even a specific unit (let alone the fact that obviously I am not qualified to even tell them apart).... I do feel that a "unclassified" section in the wiki could really help and allow us to collaboratively organise our findings in separate pages per type of unit and provide links to the important parts of the already existing load of information in this thread.... We can all collaborate on that, of course different people would want to do that for their own type of unit. I know I would just to have a easy place to go look for a file or piece of information... Anyone cares to help me?

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Has anyone tried to do usb tethering to the HU as described here www .shadowsplace.net/923/general/tether-android-phone-desire-to-android-tablet-iconia-a500-via-usb-cable/ ?

I love the Idea to charge the phone while it gives internet connection to the radio. Ascript to start it and that's it, wifi can be available for other things...

I wonder if the USB_WWAN was compiled with the stock (or any of the available) kernel, or if we could compile it as a module like it was done for a odbii device....
[Android Head-Units] tin2001:
I suspect that's a resistive screen. Mine is capacative. You could try reflashing, but use the u-boot-skip.bin from the hal9k. As far as I understand, u-boot-skip.bin is simply the bootloader (and recovery, so there is a risk here) and also holds the kernel command line, which MAY set the screen type (actually I'm pretty sure it does).

If you have a copy of u-boot-skip.bin from before you flashed, you could try that.

How about "Chinese Car Stereos" as the "manufacturer"? Then we can have a page distinguishing the various types, including pictures (not stolen from eBay listings please) and the names we're all calling them, and sub pages for the known info for each type.

If someone gets things rolling I'm happy to try and write a bit about things I know.
[Android Head-Units] adit9989:
From what I know, there is no "rooted firmware" for S150. You root it using Framaroot. Also I don't know anybody in this thread with a capacitive S150 (correct me if I'm wrong) , at least all the units of the most active posters (S150) looks to be resistive (single touch).

I did a few time a factory reset (from settings) on S150 and that function reformats the data partition an reinstalls the default applications unit came with it so you don't lose them. You only use whatever you installed after that. If you did root the unit, you keep the root, system partition is not affected, but you will have to reinstall BusyBox after (SuperSU is still there). Also factory resets will set the Can bus type to "0" (there is a config file), so if you have a dedicated unit, you need to go in the "secret" settings and change the bus type (and radio zone) back to whatever you need. Once again this refers to S150 platform.

Be very careful, OUKU and S150 are very different platforms, flashing firmware for one type of unit to another type WILL brick your unit!

I attached a photo, if your main screen looks like this you have an S150 (the face plate can be different as the same unit comes in standard 2 DIN and also a few tens of different car models, so the face plate will be different but the unit is still the same).
[Android Head-Units] royalhawk2002:
Today I experienced for the first time the "google framework" error. It started after a repentine switch off before the unit completed the boot. I try to "clear data" on google-framework process, but it doesn't help. Try to switch on the unit with wifi disabled and I don't get any error but, as soon I set wifi On the error come back. The only solution was to reset the unit at factory setting. I think that the problem arises when the unit is switched off with wifi On. Anyone with Android experience could study this problem and, if possible, find a workaround ? It is very annoying also considering the fact that the car could be driven by... a wife! :D

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Anyone tested this firmware on S150 with resistive screen ? It could be interesting because I noticed that in the stock firmware many Android typical settings menu are missing and, this one, it more similar at a standard android unit.
[Android Head-Units] Gassi2106:
Hello, both Roms are based on the standard Rom. In both roms are not more settings available as in the standard Rom.

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[Android Head-Units] doggy101:
welcome to the club with the "framework" error.. :( I used a toolbox to unable the services to start at boot :) )
[Android Head-Units] chris.r.r:
Separate threads would make it definitely easier. As proposed, I think a subsection "android car dvd" with different subthreads would work best.

BTW, two questions about the S150 units:

1) does the S150 support VW OPS (parking sensor visualization)

2) how is the fm reception compared to stock units/dual tuner?

Thanks for your replies ;)
[Android Head-Units] adit9989:
For additional settings use this app: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1400615

For TTS settings, SVOX can open them from inside or use TTSProve
[Android Head-Units] tin2001:
With this thread as a locked sticky so we don't lose any of it's info... ;)
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
I'm a little apprehensive about messing with the main wiki page too much, seems like it's a "select" number of popular unit listed by brand in alphabetical order. To keep with that we wouldn't end up above samsung motorola and anything past "c" :p

I'm thinking starting even more generic with a section below all of it, maybe right after the "legacy devices" and about the same as that a section of "unknown chinese units" could lead to a page that gives us room for our car stereo section and others for possibly other interesting devices and less known cheap tablet/phones...

As a junior member and less than experienced wiki editor (zero experience, holy crap it's like a different language, I could handle html, css, and much more... seems like I'll be learning) I still am a bit apprehensive about starting right at the main wiki page without maybe asking somene? who?
[Android Head-Units] tin2001:
I wouldn't link it from the home page at this point... But I've just started us off with a basic wiki page: http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Generic_Android_Head_Unit

It's very rough at this stage - mostly just a basic layout with ideas of what sections I can think of that people will want to read about.

Feel free to jump in if you have knowledge of model types, rooting specific models (I'm not sure what my model is so I didn't explain how I rooted it yet), etc. I've thrown in some rough notes, but don't have time to go into any detail.

Edit: An unrelated question.... I've noticed my unit has CANBUS TX and CANBUS RX wires, but my understanding is CANBUS uses low and high, not TX and RX. Am I misunderstanding CANBUS, or are these wires technically mislabeled?
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Awesome, thanks for the jump start. Honestly I don't really know much either but a lot is here, I have my unit coming, so I'll be reviewing this monster of a thread looking for answers (and probably asking more questions) and try to sum things up there :cool: I encourage everyone else to do the same, if nothing else just list the subject and link to the post on the thread that has the solution when you find it, that will help a lot!

Thank you!
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Wow, my eye hurt... going through the thread again, just on page 61... this time I've been taking notes, simple list of "subject -> post number" to reference to later... The list is already long and so far all about the original unit we call the OUKU, wich is really a TH8581GA (and branded derivatives) manufactured by Tonghai Create Electronics Co.,LTD. -> (szcreat.com) acording to the post here

http ://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39678662&postcount=307

Can't post urls yet :rolleyes:

Also gathering, for now on paper and in the same form, files... stock roms, Custom roms, manual, installation diagrams... I guess some files can be hosted here(?) but I don't think the bigger files can, so I'll just link to whatever dropbox they're on now, and we'll fix once they disappear... (I'm sure we're all keeping copies ;)

I'm pretty sure we'll need to end up splitting this into a page per device to keep it less confusing, but we'll cross that bridge when it comes...
[Android Head-Units] adit9989:
Smaller files can be hosted locally, but they delete periodically files (maybe the bigger ones or the one not downloaded often).Good to upload them on some file storage also.

The thread started initially as an "OUKU" device (Freescale SoC ) but because there are no other threads about HU (some tried to start a thread but nobody found them and they got no response) this thread grown to include other HU. The second most discussed is the S150 (Samsung SoC) which can be found under other names. There are a few posts about different units (Android 4.1 ) but they are very new and not very popular you will find just a few posts. More recent posts are 80% about S150, older posts are 80% about OUKU.
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
in re-reading this thread I did some more research on this:

Seems to me that the USB_WWAN module would need to be there for the 3g dongles to work, that would mean that we are ready to usb tether as it is.... I can't confirm that as my unit hasn't even made it to the boat from china yet.

In planning for my install (eg how many ports will my hub need) I would love to know, anyone feels like trying to plug their phone in, turning on usb tether on it and issuing 3 commands mentioned in the blog in a terminal on the HU?
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
I've just uploaded my first video of the new pure Android 4.1 unit.

The video demonstrates the unit in stock form, goes through a few features and applications, and some thoughts I have about the unit so far.

[YOUTUBE]EX3MuMqBMfw[/YOUTUBE]
[Android Head-Units] tin2001:
Yeah. I was figuring the page I created will eventually become just a listing (and identification guide) for the models, and the actual contents on subpages. But for now, just a simpler reference than a 186 page forum thread will do :p

Edit:

Didn't seem to work. RNDIS support is built into the kernel though, so I'm not sure why it didn't. May need something else to get it going (eg the device name might be different on these).
[Android Head-Units] Orisai:
Not all of them are chinese headunits. There are also threads for the Kenwood DNN990HD and the Parrot Asteroid and how to root it.
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
This seems to be what I am looking for. How much did it run you and where did you purchase it from?
[Android Head-Units] kaween:
Odd Unit. Styling reminds me a lot of a Xtrons TD620A, which by design is a 2.3 unit. I wonder if it's just superficial or indeed a similar device.

But thank you for your review ! Always nice to hear not only the good, but also the iffy parts of a device : not everybody will find this-or-that issue as important as another, and only by listening to someone like you going through the ropes one can make a good decission if a unit suits someone's needs.
[Android Head-Units] principino1984:
Finally, I've been waiting for this unit! Do you know if peter already sell the vw unit? How is it? How fast is the boot up?

Thanks

Marco

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[Android Head-Units] KID52:
I ordered it from Peter Chan, contacted him through Skype. pumpkin_cool

Yes, the device seems identical in terms of looks, even the manual and cabling is identical (except for the large block on the Xtrons 12v wire that contains what I assume is a fuse). As for the hardware, it is not the same, most specs are doubled, such as dual core 1GHz A9, 1GB RAM etc.

Appreciate your comments on my review, I tried to go through everything that I could on the stock unit, hence why the video is quite long. I attempted to include everything I could think of, as often when I watch other reviews, small parts are missed out that I would have been interested in.

My aim is to get all of my apps installed and do another review of that, so I can hopefully show the potential of the device and any other things I have found out. But also include anything I may have missed from the original review.

I've had the unit for a couple weeks, but only got round to installing it in my car yesterday, it's been sat on my desk prior to that, so I have had time to try it out, just not in an actual car.

I don't know if he has any VW units available right now, but I know he said that they will be at some point if they aren't already.

Boot up is something I forgot to include, and will show it in my next video, I think it's around 30 seconds.
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
Have you tried to load any 3d games on there, movies, emulators. Would definitely help me.
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
I've only tried a 720p MKV file, and that worked flawlessly.

If you let me know some specific apps you would like me to try out I can make a video.
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
Any free 3d game on the market today basicly but most importantly emulators, SNES, GENESIS, a more complicated emulator would probably be a nintendo 64. Are there any video outputs?
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
Yes, you have two video outputs, from what I have been told you can display something different on the external screens, for example a video, and have navigation on the unit itself. I don't know if you can display completely different apps on the other screens though. At the moment I don't have any sort of external screen to test this functionality.

There are also four single phono connections for "zones" coming out of the unit, what these are for I really do not know. They are not mentioned in the "User Manual", which seems to have no relevance to the actual unit anyway, and the wiring guide simply states, for example, "REAR ZONE OUT R".

I will download some games and emulators, test them out, and try to get a video posted in the next couple days.
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
Thanks for doing this, I really do appreciate it. It would definitely help me and maybe others who might plan on making this decision on purchasing this. That externel screen option actually sounds like a plus if the kids in the back are playing emulator games and they don't have to share one screen but two with each there own controller. Doesn't sound like a bad option to have in a family van.
[Android Head-Units] Orisai:
:(

I'd like to see that too. I'm in between this, and RoadRover's Android 4.1 headunit, which has a Mali 400 GPU.
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
Yes, sounds good in theory, but I don't really know how it would work. Honestly, I do not intend on purchasing additional screens so I may not be able to review this feature. I am however going to be removing the unit from my car in a few weeks to install the reversing camera and USB hub, so may be able to connect it up to a TV whilst it is out.

Isn't the Mali 400 pretty poor in terms of power?

I'll have a look tomorrow and run some benchmarks on the unit.

Just got a video up of the boot time.

[youtube]-79jGvLwfAA[/youtube]
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
They are promoting this product but there are no actual product videos. They say its android 4.1 but they also said it won't work in US market. This company is confusing but I'll give them some time to post some actual footage. Also if the tablets are capable of making 3d games work with the mali400 it should be sufficient but for now just gonna have to wait for actual footage.
[Android Head-Units] Orisai:
What color are the connectors? Does the headunit also include the RCA preamp connectors for an external amp besides those "ZONE" connectors?

I think they don't have an user manual or proper documentation for this unit yet, and this is why Peter didn't post it on eBay since day one.

You could test Hellfire or Wild Blood, both free. If that headunit can run Wild Blood with decent FPS, then it'll be able to run pretty much any game and/or app without any performance problems.
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
They are the standard colours, so red and white. I think maybe they are pre-outs for an amp, I didn't even think of this. Otherwise, no, those are the only audio outputs except the high level ones that go direct to the speakers, but they are not phono connectors, just bare wire. There is a sub output too though.

Not the best photo I am afraid, but here is the instruction sheet with the rear connections.

Most of the first group connect to the ISO connector, which was not included so I had to purchase one. The second group is basically for "extras", the only ones I am using are for the sub, reversing camera (when it arrives) and USB.

I will try out those two games, thank you for the suggestion. I've also downloaded 3DMark on my HTC One X, and will try to run this on the unit to see how they compare.
[Android Head-Units] Orisai:
Yes, given the standard colors for stereo sound, they are preamp signals. Why the chinese named "REAR ZONE" to the rear preamp speaker outputs instead of "LINE OUT REAR", I don't know.

I wonder if the AUX IN VIDEO could be used with a dashcam without switching video feed between the OS and the camera like in the rearview function. That would be great with Torque's track recorder.

3DMark will be even better.
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
As far as I know, the two AUX inputs will not switch from what you are doing, like the rear camera, instead they are accessed from the AUX app.

Does that app need the OBD device? Unfortunately bluetooth is locked on the device so you can't connect to one, I've also tried a bluetooth dongle but that wasn't detected.
[Android Head-Units] principino1984:
Same for me... and another nice brand who's gonna produce 4.1 unit is icartech, I heard something about when talking with their support service, but they still don't know when will be made an upgrade.
[Android Head-Units] tin2001:
Oh, speaking of the internal handsfree BT stuff. I noticed the other day it's controlled by serial. I'm guessing there's a generic BT handsfree chip/board in there, controlled by serial, rather than a proper Bluetooth controller you'd get on a USB adapter. It's not that the chip/adapter is locked or in use by the apps on the unit - it's that it's not really a BT adapter to start with.
[Android Head-Units] bypo:
S150 Android 4.0.3 for I802 / I804 unit (Pre-release)

Guys,

I got a pre-release version of S150 Android 4.0.3 for I802 and I804 devices.

Just tried it on my units: it seems 90% (something is not working, something is not yet translated).

I'll post i802 version in few hours (in a new thread as I think it's time to create a new one).
[Android Head-Units] principino1984:
where did you get it? is it something "official" from chinese guys or what?

thanks

Marco
[Android Head-Units] bypo:
Unit Manufacturer sent it to me for reason i'd not like to explain.
[Android Head-Units] principino1984:
no problem! let us know how is it!
[Android Head-Units] royalhawk2002:
Ok Thank you ! Please post also the link at the new thread as soon as you will open it! :good: It could be useful also to know what is working and what not on this release!
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
Are some of these units running android on top another OS?
[Android Head-Units] tin2001:
It's been discussed previously in the thread (I know - it's too long), but yes.
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
This could be the case, I don't really know.

I've run the 3DMark test on the device, results are not that good. I would like to think that the app isn't optimized for the hardware, but that is probably wishful thinking.

The GPU is a Mali-400 MP.

[YOUTUBE]Lu7AezSLdoA[/YOUTUBE]

I have yet to test some real games.
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
God thats horrible, I'd hate to see how the emulators look but thats if you're still up to it.;)
[Android Head-Units] KID52:
It really is. Unfortunately the phone didn't capture the sound very well, that was impressive, especially with the subwoofer.

I don't know what the "standard" is for that program though, on the PC it's known for everyone getting terrible framerates unless you have a farm of GPUs...

To put it into perspective, my HTC One X didn't do much better, total score of 3537, and 11.5 FPS in test 1, compared with 1031 and 4.2 FPS on the car unit.

I'll still aim to try out a few games and emulators.
[Android Head-Units] Orisai:
My Galaxy S II running CM10.1.3 performs way bettar at 3Dmark's default test with pretty much the same hardware except for the processor, which is 400Mhz faster than the headunit's, and of course, a smaller display.

Given your results, it shouldn't be THAT slow, unless it's overloaded with factory bloatware or bad drivers. We'll see how well it performs once we're able to root and fully customize it.
[Android Head-Units] tony_2018:
What I'm also thinking could be the issue is that Android is running on top of WinCE plus Android 4.1 isn't really setup like our phones or tablets.

My idea to build an Android double din was to start with a Android TV stick and buy a double din case with a samsung touchscreen. From there configure the stick to work with the touchscreen, and usb hub for hard drive, gps bluetooth adapter. My idea might just stick.
[Android Head-Units] jakejm79:
By the time you do that, it doesn't come out much cheaper or better than the headunit, plus you lose 4.1 channel output (unless you get a HDMI decoder), the ability to balance/fade sound, FM/AM radio (there is a work around for this but its not very pretty). Also you will need some custom software to get the touchscreen working, the standard android sticks are designed to work with a mouse and keyboard.