yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] RLGL:
I got a replacement yesterday from VZW. I has the old software version 1.15.605.4 71ORD. The update has downloaded and has been deferred for the maximum time allowed.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
Is your bootloader unlocked? I'd turn that thing off, get it unlocked and rooted, then flash the zip that kills otas, it's in the development forum.

Sent from my HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] mcsplatt:
Luckyyyy

DNA Baby!
[HTC Droid DNA] hilokilo:
Burn...
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
Grrr just got my replacement today, hard bricked the old one, and you know what I did! Upgraded!!!! Now I can't unlock the bootloader or even downgrade with RUU. SON-OF-AHHH. . .
[HTC Droid DNA] sdamark:
Feel your pain...

:( I'm thirty days into my torture session. Screen broke on my Viperized DNA on the 14th of last month. The guy at the Verizon store installed the update on my replacement phone. Waiting patiently is the hardest thing for an addicted crack flasher like me. I haven't had a phone on a stock ROM in 4 years. If a solution is out there I'm sure it can't be too far off. I have even considered sending it off to the MobileTechVideo guys. Evidently with some sort of JTAG thing they can still get SuperCid on the new firmware. $75.00 and a week without a phone is just not acceptable to me. Half the fun is being able to do it yourself.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
I was under the impression that all they could do was un brick with the jtag tool. I wonder if they could flash back the older firmware though? I'd pay for that.

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] Azbulldog:
My replacement also came today on the old firmware and unlocked fine.
[HTC Droid DNA] sdamark:
Check their website, they say they can still get SuperCID on 2.04 firmware. If you do it, let us know how it goes.

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:good: Jealous :)
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
Atleast the V-bag updated yours, my dumba$$ did mine. I don't know what I was thinking! I was thinking the new fw was unlockable that's what I was thinking. It was only when HTCDEV kept failing that I found out a big fat NO GO for the bootloader. Then to make it worse tried to downgrade and that was also a FAIL. Now I'm just bummed.

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RIFF Box – JTAG Revolution http://www.jtagbox.com/category/jtag-downloads/ 200 bux for the box. Maybe I should buy one and unbrick, cid 111111, S-off, and make ppl happy. . . cheap lol
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
I almost wonder if it's easier to figure out a way to downgrade rather than trying to exploit the update. But this is also my first HTC and I that may seem like a noob statement too u all, so I apologize if I come off like a dope. It is impossible to downgrade or what? And why?

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
That's what I'm thinking about. Here's what I'm thinking, for those that relocked, got their unlock.bin, upgraded then reunlocked and rooted, make a copy of that firmware, then use that just like the RUU thing. If I only new how. Would there be a way to unlock the bootloader doing a RUU recovery with the new FW?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Then why don't you figure out an exploit that allows us to downgrade.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
I'll do that. U wanna help?

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
I suppose I'll share.

The downgrade problem is different than it used to be. The rom.zips are now encrypted before they are signed. HTC decided to change the decryption key in the ota hboot so ota devices are unable to decrypt the rom.zip we've pulled from the pre ota RUU.

I'm really not sure what a viable solution might be at this point. That doesn't mean that some other devs don't have a valid idea or two.

We have SEVERAL working root exploits for ota devices currently. However with wp on system partition and now on the cid partition it's somewhat useless.

This is where we stand.
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
Thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] xda-arcane:
Thank You

To everyone who is working on this, THANK YOU. VZW OTA'd my DNA before I could have the pleasure unlocking it. The Ironic part is that I early upgraded to get away from my locked down moto DX2, HAHA :D. I know there is probably an overwhelming ammount of people who have offered, but if any DEV's need a guinea pig with a completely unaltered DNA please let me know. I really appreciate all of the hard work that everyone is pouring into this, THANK YOU!
[HTC Droid DNA] matteebee:
I have an unlocked s-off'd contracted device. Anyone know if this hardware is able to be activated on a different number or network? Just curious what the advantage of having an unlocked s-off device is outside of development and why Verizon is blocking this procedure. Sorry if this is the wrong thread but seems on topic.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Well since it's LTE all you have to do is swap sim cards, the sim is activated when it connects to Verizons network there is none of the *228 business from back in the 3G days, so the advantage of that is that you can use it with another sim card with no problems. Verizon is against unlocking and s off for a lot of reasons. Many people screw their phones up and if you watch the forums, a huge percentage of people who brick their phones after gaining root access will try and make insurance or warranty claims and also use up resources with Verizon's tech support. Also, if you are rooted they can't control your usage as tightly. Wifi tether is a big example of that.

And also that opens you up to going to other carriers more easily. And then there's the aspect that Verizon doesn't want you to have new features on an old phone, they need to sell you a new phone. The way it works is you want a new operating system and the latest features? Buy this years flagship device. But to keep you from buying retail, because you're suuuuch a good customer, we will give you an early upgrade and you can have the next flagship for $299 instead of $749, and theres just a minor matter of verbally agreeing to extend your contract for 24 additional months tacked onto what was there.

Which means next year when you want the new features, if you have a stock phone you'll have to buy another phone and add a line or use an early upgrade, and soon you're tied up darn near forever.

But once you gain root access to run custom software, you can get lots of those new features on your existing phone. There's lots of reasons but those are some of the biggest, and then also if we attain s off it's with a security exploit. If Verizon had a known exploit gaining that much press and didn't try to fix the hole in their security I'm sure it could be an issue for them if the write people went after them about negligent security practices.
[HTC Droid DNA] wakkadojo:
On my old Motorola droid x2, we were able to sbf our phones to the pre-ota system. The only reason we could do this is because the sbf files were leaked, and we were able to flash it via Motorola's rsd. Is this sort of thing an option for the dna?
[HTC Droid DNA] matteebee:
Excellent response, thank you very much. This was info I was assuming but needed confirmation from someone. This helps me if I wanted to sell this s-off device at whatever the going rate is then purchase newer hardware at full price making my out of pocket expense substantially less. Hmmmmm... Glad I jumped on the s-off technique immediately and disabled updates. Sure openened up a lot more options for me. Not planning on dumping it anytime soon cuz it's a great device but love having the door open.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
2 Questions if you will:

If you have several root exploits that work for the ota, is there a problem with them that one can't be released?

also, about this encryption, is this useless for us? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36330088
[HTC Droid DNA] sdamark:
I think what he is saying is HTC has a wp [write protect] on the partitions used. So, even if you have root, it does no good becuase you cant write to system. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I got from Beaups comment.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
Interesting, I always was under the impression that one of the most elementary abilities of root access was read write permission. As it was my understanding that "Su" is originally meant to mean "switch user" and without any specified user args, will assign the user as the "super user" or "root admin". And being in that position gives said user the ability to make system-wide, unrestricted changes, including read-write. I've never heard of SU without RW.

On second though, the whole purpose of exploiting is to give the user the ability to "write" the su binary, busybox and superuser.apk to the /system partition. So, I'm confused how one can write these files to system, have root access, but NOT have RW. I'm so lost, lol.

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] sdamark:
:confused: Me too. I just keep checking back to this thread every day, hoping to see a viable solution has been found. I paid full price for this phone in January, I unlocked with the original Jcase exploit, and had Viper installed and running beautifully. THEN, butterfingers dropped his phone on the tile floor and shattered the screen. Now I got this replacement, with 2.04 fw, that may never be able to unlocked. It's really depressing :(
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
never say never. Someone will figure out something soon.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
My story is very similar to yours only I bought my 10 days ago. I have 4 days to decide what to do.

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] sdamark:
Hope you're right ocman, I'm being very patient monitoring this thread daily. Having already tasted Viper on the DNA, I really want that back.

But what else compares to this QuadCore racecar tucstwo? The only saving grace for me is that it's still a badass phone on stock software. It's just better unlocked and debloated. I really don't know what I would do if I had the option to return for something else.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
All I want is to be able to use a few root apps, make nandroids, do a little tethering. Is that too much to ask? At this point, I'd be ecstatic if I could have root and cwm. That's all I want. VZW sucks donkeys.

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
There will be a solution soon, there always is. Devs will fix this just because it's a new challenge. I love my DNA, I love it better when I had total control over it. Regardless it's still a great phone. . . for now.
[HTC Droid DNA] Freek91:
As someone who is strongly considering buying this phone when i switch to VZW. I have 2 questions

first, Is this a common occurrence with this phone to have an OTA lock things back down?

secondly, is it worth picking up this phone now that there is uncertainty if the bootloader will ever be unlocked?

i have my choices narrowed down to 3 phones, the dna, s3, and note 2. I would love to be able to unlock and root the my phone and will be a big consideration as to which i get. So im just curious about my above questions.

Thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] swamp2:
Precisely my position. As with others checking back here so anxiously at least once per day often more like 3...
[HTC Droid DNA] stryver:
Yeah I'm starting to get cold feet, I just may make a trade for the note 2. At least i'll be able to unlock it and expand the memory... This is my first phone that I've had to go this long without unlocking, its driving me crazy. I feel like an addict, checking this thread three, four times daily. Amazing phone, but even if/when it gets unlocked, I would hate to support a device that verizon's working so hard to keep on lockdown, like they own MY phone, that I paid for with MY hard earned money.

sent from my locked DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] TechSavvy2:
....that is running on THEIR network...... While I completely agree vzw can suck it, your phone wouldn't be **** without their network, hence why they control it. And they deal with your customer support. And your replacement devices. And your software updates (or lack there of). Otherwise its a glorified mp3 player. Good luck talking or using non-wifi data. And a subsidy (granted I and many others paid full retail). I just hate the "this is MY phone that I paid for" rants. I'm not defending them, but I can see their standpoint. Heaven forbid we mess with the "network integrity"....

I can sense I'm gonna get flamed o.O
[HTC Droid DNA] stryver:
lol, I know, I know... But nonetheless I want freedom for my device, customization and ability to modify my phone in every possible way is my very way of life. Once you do it on one device it becomes an addiction, at least for me anyway, its not like I'm pirating or cracking, there's other ways of controlling such epidemics. Vzw didn't have to go this far when almost every other device is unlockable. Its not like they're really stopping anything, they're just making it less likely for people to buy their product. Htcdev was one of the main reasons I stuck to HTC, because they support the dev community, but I guess that won't matter as long as Vzw has something to say about it...

sent from my locked DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
Ok, touché

VZW licenses their waves from the FCC, who is a US government entity. Last I checked, the US Government belonged to We the people. We own them, we own the air waves, we license to VZW (and then we're dumb enough to pay for it). I digress. We, the people, own the network.

And I own the phone. VZW needs to get out of my business.

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] masterkamon842:
Wow... I buy a DNA last night just to figure out I can't root it... Hopefully someone comes to the rescue or I'll have to go back to the one s...
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
This phone has been one nightmare after the next.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
That's not how it works...
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
Your DNA came with the new firmware? People here will figure it out soon enough, have faith in them. They have gotten us this far and are able to accomplish great things with this phone. This latest update or only one so far is just another hurdle for them to jump.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
How's it work then?

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
Please move the discussion to a new thread.
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
Nightmare? Really? This phone is awesome in every aspect. And even better when rooted yes but not so bad not rooted either. I for one have faith in the community/DEVs here and know they will figure it out soon. Look at all they have figured out so far with the DNA, You really got to thank them for all the hard work they have done so far.
[HTC Droid DNA] matteebee:
Don't know about the other two devices but your chances of scoring a rootable DNA at this point appear to be very slim right now judging by the comments in this thread alone. It is currently locked down as far as out of store devices. If you can find one used that has had updates disabled and already rooted I would start there. Anyone else that has better knowledge or advice please chime in if I appear misinformed please.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
I personally think the S3 is junk compared to the DNA, one the S3 feels weak and janky and need to buy extra stuff for the wireless charge. The DNA is ready to go for wireless charge other than buy the wireless charger. If I remember right the DNA has better specs, I do like Samsung though. Not real sure on the Note2, I've read it's more of a phablet where as the DNA is phone. Not sure of the differences but that's what I've read. As far as the DNA being unlockable again, I'm sure it'll happen. I would ask to see the phone as soon as Verizon turns it on and check the firmware version to see if its 1.15 and not the 2.04. I have never purchased a phone that has been upgraded, usually you do that after you buy it. If you buy the 1.15 you can unlock the bootloader and get the unlock.bin then upgrade and use your unlock.bin and you are set.

I think the DNA is a great phone and have faith that the bootloader will be unlocked once again. It's a "lock that needs picked" and they will figure it out.

Who is the best guy for the job here? What DEV and what can "We" do to motivate you to get-er-dunnn?

I would like to add that every time there is an update for the iPod touch I wait before I get the new firmware and jailbreak it all over again. Everytime Apple says it won't get jailbroken and every time it gets jailbroken.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
I've asked to stay on topic in this thread. It will be closed shortly.
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
What did I say about the devs that would indicate I think they've done substandard job? I just said this phones been a nightmare. Screen cracked, got stolen, got replacement with OTA. It's been a helllish ordeal for me. What does the community or the devs have to do with any of that?

Sent from my unlockable HTC Droid DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] SHANENATAS:
I didn't mean you meant the devs. I thought you meant the phone itself not the luck you have had with all that junk you described.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
The inmates are becoming too restless. Thread closed.
[HTC Droid DNA] eighty1:
My question was in reference if this method works on the international Butterfly X920D?
[HTC Droid DNA] riot1031:
Awesome work guys, thanks!! Now if the HTC Dev site would cooperate I could get this thing unlocked!!
[HTC Droid DNA] tfrank10:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Yep, I'm getting the 173 error too. Have to assume it's just the website acting up. Or that's what I'm hoping anyways.
[HTC Droid DNA] Memnoch73:
This is a HTCDev issue. Someone on another thread posted they had the same issue trying to unlock their buddies HTC One X+, contacted HTC and they responded that it should be resolved in a day or so.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
And my question for you is "does the butterfly X920D need an exploit to use HTCDEV?"
[HTC Droid DNA] eighty1:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Wasn't sure if it's ok to run the apk from my phone and if all development for bootloaders are cross compatible.
[HTC Droid DNA] bsSkunkApe:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

I think he's saying that you should go ahead and try to unlock via the htcdev site if you haven't already, because you may not need to run an exploit since your phone is an international version.

If you can't unlock your phone via htcdev, I don't have the expertise to tell you wether or not its a good idea to try this exploit on your phone since it is meant for Verizon DNAs.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
Right. Once HTCDEV is actually working again, just try to unlock by selecting "all other supported models".

If you do get the "MID Not Allowed" error, then yes, you will need an exploit. And, no, this exploit will (probably) not work for you.

But there would be no harm in trying, as this exploit does not flash a bootloader. Worst thing it should do is not work and/or reboot your phone with your current CID intact.
[HTC Droid DNA] erronr:
Yes, I did it sunday afternoon. Went along with no problems.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
I despise you hahaha. kidding

For some reason I did not see this thread until the morning and I was on XDA quite a lot last night. Looks like I'll be trying again tomorrow.
[HTC Droid DNA] eighty1:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Thanks.
[HTC Droid DNA] obededom:
had to

edit: couldn't attach pic

http://qkme.me/3so1uf
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Htcdev site is still fed up

Sent from a phone I'm about to take back to Verizon for an s3
[HTC Droid DNA] yousefarman89:
Yeah same here. ive been trying all day and night, site is still acting up. Best i got was Error 173 at the very end
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Good news finally got it to take however been waiting 30min for my email with the token in it.
[HTC Droid DNA] ajd88:
I keep getting invalid token length errors. Could this be do to the site being screwed up? I have to reload about 5 times to get through. I made sure there were no space and everything is entered properly.

Edit: Finally got to the screen where it tell me they sent an email. Problem now is it's been 10 minutes with no email, not in spam folder either

Edit2: Oops didn't see post above mine. Will be patiently waiting for email.

Edit3: Almost 2 hours without an email. Damn.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
hahahahah YUP
[HTC Droid DNA] tokomoto:
It's been nearly 24 hours for me and no email still...
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Guys the site is down and will be down for maintenance.
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
oh damn. im just now seeing this! i used jcases method about 6 times, for myself, and a few members who needed help. this process look easy as 123, lol. thanks a bunch for this man!!! good work!!!!!
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Anyone see if dev is up?
[HTC Droid DNA] Ignite023:
No, still not working.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Damn I got 3days to swap my DNA for s3
[HTC Droid DNA] ystasino:
It still is down indeed, any idea how long it will remain down for maintenance? One wonders if VZW is fighting these exploits.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Yeah i got a guy wanting to switch his with me. This whole thing with dev is kinda pushing me that way haha.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

No telling right now. Email they sent me just told me to keep checking back.

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.

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Yeah same here but I just jumped from vivid to DNA so I'm an HTC fan

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] SilverVenom:
HTCdev still throwing error 173

HTCdev is still throwing nothing but 173 "Check Rule Fail with exception." errors for the last 4 hours.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Yeah been like that 2or3 days now.

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

This is what I'm getting now

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

You guys are impatient.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

You sir are correct every HTC I've ever had has been unlocked and rooted 5min tops

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] yousefarman89:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Just be careful! After trying it nonstop for 2 days, I got an error 300 code for exsessive use lol. Had to make a new account, and now I'm back to error 173
[HTC Droid DNA] volfan22:
I'm just patiently waiting over here. I've waited this long so a couple days isn't anything. I just think it's funny that htcdev would go down right when we get a simple way to unlock the bootloader. Just our luck lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

I'm not buying that it was an accident.:confused:

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] Upstreammiami:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

What if it's Verizon trying to stop us from rooting... Ahhhhh

HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] sp3c_0ps_o7:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Then we will have to wait for another xploit

Sent from HTC DNA xda premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: HTC Droid DNA Bootloader Unlock/New Method 1/20/2013

Its not just the DNA messing up on the site, its every phone.