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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] inaudible101:
Yeah I have the latest. If I set it to 100 i will eventually stick at 160 and not clock up or down even if I change the settings after it's stuck.

Trickster resets for me too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
The latest saber kernel does not have a 160mhz step so I do not believe you are on the latest kernel...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] DCOCH13:
Try using a 20 second delay on trickster and see if it holds your settings then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] crixley:
This kernel is incredibly smooth.. I found the battery drain higher than perseus though :/

That being said it was definitely smoother imo.

Switched back for battery life, but great job I have to give you that. Made my phone run like a dream.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] gregsarg:
Try a fresh download of setcpu...and wipe caches in recovery....g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] benji667:
Shouldnt that be when they r not in use ?!

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] disellusional:
has anyone lost USB function when flashing saber kernel? I try to plug into computer and prvious on ace rom 4.9 i could select MTP or media storage hwen plugged in..

now it doesnt detect anything? it just charges
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] rockinandroid:
Well Said!!! THANKS!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Haloruler64:
Just flashed this kernel, absolutely wonderful. Really.

Any plans to add controller support? I'd like to use my wired Xbox 360 controller with this (using USB OTG)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] yankeesfan714:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

This goes so well with jedi xp9. Couldn't ask for more man.

Sent from my SGH-I317

@yankeesfan714
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] rgoyena:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

Agree
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

Precisely
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

I'll check into OTG
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ShadowVlican:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

That's not how it works in the CPU world... And I doubt ARM architecture changes that fact
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

It IS in fact how this works. This is why at a drastic UV phones will shut off, freeze, fail. If you do not allocate an adequate amount of juice to the processor what's going to happen? I do not spread bull**** and would appreciate if it weren't made to sound like that's what your misguided comment was insinuating.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] rsalan:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

If I had previously UV'd on a previous kernel and then I install this without any UV apps, is it running at stock voltages?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ViciousMo:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

Yes it should be. Bring up the voltage control to see for yourself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] AndreiLux:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

Sorry but that's a big pile of nonsense and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. That's not how it works and undervolting does not stress the system. Of course it will crash if you exaggerate but that's not what you were saying in the previous post and why the other person corrected you.

Please educate yourselves before making wrong statements; http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36723175&postcount=19
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

Precisely. Before compiling a kernel, I optimize voltages using similar formulas in order to make the system run efficiently. I stated that undervolting leads to problems because the voltages are already at there optimum levels for the specified frequencies.

And actually I do know what I am talking about. There have been several studies proving exactly what I stated in my original comment. I understand you are attempting to educate but the argument is invalid IMO and I guess we will have to agree to disagree and move on with our own work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] AndreiLux:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

There is no such thing as an optimal voltage, you shouldn't be doing default provided undervolting (I didn't check the amount you have here) because each chip has its own tolerances.. but whatever.

Fact is undervolting doesn't slow processes down. Either it works or it freezes, nothing in-between.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

I respect your stance but disagree on certain points due to my own research, studies, and personal experience. Thank you for your differing opinion, as I'm sure it sparks interest in the minds of our users
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jdc5:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

Obviously both of you have different experience and knowledge about this. I apologize for sparking this up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] willl03:
About UV,

When opinions don't cut it, let the numbers speak

Here: http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-2...ing-overclocking-and-battery-life-review.html

The test is made with an international Galaxy S3, same CPU as ours

Result after 120 minutes of heavy load:

Stock voltages:

Battery USED = 94%,

Max bat. temp = 53,5*c

Quadrant score = 4760

-100mv uv:

Battery USED = 85,5%

Max bat. temp = 50,3*c

Quadrant score = 4759

-100mv cpu uv, -50mv gpu uv:

Battery USED = 82,5%

Max bat. temp = 48,8*c

Quadrant score = 4746

1+1 = 2

UV, when well done = more battery, less heat, same performance and stability

Here's undervolting seen and experienced by my humble self
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ShadowVlican:
THIS is precisely it. OP's "research" is incomplete.

NO CHIPS ARE MADE EQUALLY. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. that is why some are able to overclock more. this is why some can run with less voltage. this is why some need more voltage to overclock. heck, this is why some chips are binned for garbage or lower speed tiers by the manufacturer. believe it or not, chip manufacturing isn't 100% success rate.

the automobile engine and gasoline analogy is a joke and show those using it or agreeing with it don't know how engines operate either.

Go and try spreading your gospel around, and see how well received your view of voltages is. I'd wager that you're on the losing side with whatever research you have done. I don't want to doubt your kernel (as it works great) but you're not helping.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Re: |KERNEL| SaberKernel_9.6 |3.0.58| 1|28

OK this has gotten out of hand.. as stated in my original comment that sparked all this, under volting DOES take its toll on performance and DOES take from the processor. Now instead of using a forum as a source to live by I will leave you this

http://atrak.usc.edu/~massoud/Papers/dvfs-tcad-journal.pdf

This article explains a proposed method of voltage scaling written in part by a former Samsung Engineer and states without a doubt that performance suffers when pulling voltage and proposes methods of finding OPTIMAL voltages. There are Many articles and papers written by other renowned engineers, MIT undergraduates and professors explaining similar findings that I did not save. My research is anything but lacking... whether you take this noted and reliable source or you take an XDA post as more reliable is up to you but would appreciate it if this article is read by those that need to "educate" themselves and leave this thread for discussion about my kernel as opposed to an argument about proven/known facts that are apparently ignored. Whether battery is saved in my mind is completely unimportant if it takes a possible 20% decrease in performance. In that case you may as well under clock by 20%. But as I said. Please back on topic and I hope we all learn plenty from this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] AkaTheMacDaddy:
Wow!" If I could say what I really feel about some people I would get kicked off of every single forum I belong to haha! But I keep my opinions to myself and I just ignore the drama and do what I want. Right now I wanna rock this kernel because I can dang it!"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ludester:
ptmr3 I believe is correct. I remember reading something from Samsung engineer when I had my i9100 and it was a hot topic with one of the kernels developed for the i9100.

AndreiLux is reputable and has great knowledge as well but SaberKernel is working better then Perseus on my device stock for stock.

Enough bickering lets get back to the awesome Kernel this is and hope ptmr3 continues to develop it! :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
My core two os allso offline. The other 3 are functioning correctly. Is that normal?

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sling:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43221215&postcount=965
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Thank you sir

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
You're welcome :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] gregsarg:
???

Remove the current control app...

Reboot to recovery and wipe caches...

Reboot and download setcpu...

Set up the app to your personal taste...

Profit....g

Edit:

The CPU values present in the kernel Will default once the control app is removed...and the caches are cleaned...

It's the same as if you just flashed the kernel fresh again...g

---------- Post added at 12:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 AM ----------

Maybe...as the cores will shut down on occasion if cpu load is low...(see above link in previous posts)..

But based on my use of system tuner...and it's control history...

The cores would begin to drop out after a few days...and for me it was core 2...

Then the stuck CPU effects started...and my emmc fried...(dead device that I sent for repairs)($200.00)...

For me....so far....setcpu has not dropped cores..(beyond normal core cycles)..and has not tried to max out the cpu...

This is an application issue....combined with cached information...that I believe is conflicting with the kernel over time...

And not the kernel itself...as it happens on other kernels also...including stock kernels....that use control apps outside of the control the kernel offers...

(I'm referring to core max speed issues..and not core shutdown)...

I'm no dev....and wish I knew how to disable portions of the software that conflict with the control applications...

Or perhaps a control app that is packaged with a kernel/rom combination...that has been merged ??

Heck...just a thought....g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] wizzler1:
Yup. When using the peg gov.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] G7Baker:
I Finally did it

Ok. I finally got Saber32 working. I flashed it yesterday and when I UC tp 100 using Set Cpu. My phone got very laggy. So I had to pull battety. So I just tryed again and same results. Then I tryed UC with Trickster and working 100%. I double checked with Cpu spy. Thank you so much for all the hard work and effort you put in. Your Rom and Kernel are the most reliable to get the most speed, performance and Battery life I need in my daily driver. Thanks again ptmr3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
I just flashed uc32 last nigjt so mine needs a little time ti settle. Hows you battery life compared to what you had before for you guys that had it since release?

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] xxBrun0xx:
Are you guys getting better battery life with this than perseus? Perseus always seems better right out of the gate. Any ideas why? From everything I've read, it sounds like this should beat it, but it just doesn't. Wonder what's different?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] crixley:
Yea perseus gives me much better battery life though this is smoother..

I wish I could make a baby out of the two kernels
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
I cant judgge yet im gonna wait 2 to 3 days and let the kernel settle in but I had perseus since the note 2 came out and I will def be able to see the difference. Ill give my opinion this weekend. Although I hace noticed a couple of thinggs that work much better on this kernel than Pers. I have the lemon battery so unless the battery drain is drastically different I will be staying with this one.

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] TheGrandFinale2001:
It's been about equal in mine testing. Perseus barely might edge it out. But in terms of smoothness Saber wins the round. Perseus would just stutter to much for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] borijess:
Finally got the new kernal working. I am using antutu uc at 100mhz. For reason this kernal does not like setcpu.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] twanskys204:
Trickster and other CPU control apps don't mix well
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] xxBrun0xx:
Can anyone show that running at 100 mhz will actually improve battery? Seems like if you're deep sleeping as you should be, this wouldn't matter. If you have lots of wake locks, this would improve your battery tremendously, but just greenifying the apps causing your wake locks would be even better.

Speaking of battery life, for those of us who don't game, has anyone tried underclocking on the high end? I would think that would give you a huge boost in battery life.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmike6453:
It would be tough to do a controlled experiment between previous battery cycles and new ones if you were to judge it just by "screen-on time" or "standby time" since there's so many variables.

I would check mainly the millivolts(mv) being set for the certain 100mhz clock vs how many are at 200 mhz since that should be the factor when it comes to battery life at the hardware level. This can be seen/set in Trickster.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] crixley:
I am noticing a huge difference.. Like hours of screen on time (probably 2). I'm going to give it a few days and report back though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Guys this may be a bit off topic and im sorry not sure who else to ask but it is kernel related.

I am streaming live the UFC PPV event tomorrow night on my phone, and my question is would i get better results of I overclocked to say 1800 and changed my gov to performance? Also maybe OC the GPU? I need help from the pros here....thnx

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cnote74:
Great kernel love it but if I under clock to 100 my phone after awhile is slow as can be. Meaning it lags and takes forever to do anything using setcpu as my control app.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
For some reason it seems like Trickster works much better with this kernel than cpu.

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cnote74:
Will try trickster then to see if it works better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Sqb:
Either remove or completely disable set cpu first so that both aren't trying to control the kernel. I have personally had much better luck with trickster. Hope you have the same luck with it

Edit: you might want to go into recovery after switching control apps and clear cache and dalvik to let it builds caches without set cpu in the mix at all
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cnote74:
Completely removed setcpu first before setting trickester up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Sqb:
Once using trickster set it up then hit the check in top right to set. Once your good there and like the setup you can set on boot through menu. You might have to give it a delay. I use twenty second.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cnote74:
Ok will do that after I am sure my settings work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] G7Baker:
I have ran both and I honestly can say they're isn't much diff in battery life. I have gotten way better battery life on Saber especially since Saber 28 and up. Im getting close to 8hrs and sometimes 8+ on a full charge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] gregsarg:
Agreed. ..

While setcpu works well. ..I've found trickster much lighter on the running side. ..

And it does make the device run much smoother. ..albeit faster overall. ..g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] FireBird_89:
Noticed that on Perseus, in the perseus alpha20 (9/09) changelog it mentions "Changed the Wifi packet filter to block out all but mDNS multi-cast packets" - that seems to be the thing that is different between perseus and saber and is what is causing wlan_rx_wake wakelocks on saber whenever wifi is on, resulting in poor battery life (apparently only on select routers, and with specific computers on the network (primarily macs).

Ptmr3, How difficult is it to implement this type of filter on saber? If too difficult, I completely understand (especially since this is not a widespread issue). If it is not too difficult, then that would be a wonderful addition to saber! :fingers-crossed:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] alquistador:
Please tell me how to stream to my phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
I will look into it :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Old Man Dave:
And that's why you're one of the best devs here.... You listen to the masses and always aim to please!

Thanks again for all of your work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Thank you!

I like to think that a respectful request should be returned with the same level of respect.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Good catch.

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] killerocker:
Absolutely love the Roms and kernels that you've been putting out. I've been following your dev work since the skyrocket and was extremely pleased to see you deving for the note 2. Bonus points for being a fellow star wars fan haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] FireBird_89:
You are the greatest, BY FAR!! I'll do what I can to help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Found the commit. Consider it done
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] FireBird_89:
So when I said you were the greatest.... you just topped it! I look forward to trying it out on the next release!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Appreciate that man. Glad I can help out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Actually looking at the file it appears that the packet filter was already implemented in this uodate to source by samsung. I will look further into what may helo your issue. Next time you see the wakelock, screenshot it and post please
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Think I may have fixed it. We shall see
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] FireBird_89:
What I'll do tonight is leave the phone unplugged, and I can give you a screen off- several hour better battery stats readout showing the wakelock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Check your pm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
Would someone mind posting the stock voltages the kernel ships with for both the gpu and cpu?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] twanskys204:
Dosent it reset when u reeboot? Mine dose
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Not if you have apply on boot checked.

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] twanskys204:
There is no apply at boot... only frequency lock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ptmr3:
Lol dude just hit your menu button
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] twanskys204:
Thanks.. missed that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
Thanks, dude. And 2.0ghz....I see what you did there....I was wondering when you were gonna do that! :thumbup:

Pt, do you UV at all? Ever?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] taylormade772:
Can you flash this on beanstalk ROM or just tw
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
First line in OP..TW only
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] angieri918:
OK so i see that the max cpu is 2000 in this image....! Am i missing something?? has there been an update since the release of jedi15? if so lemme know so i can feed my flashaholism.. :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBison420:
Been running the new kernel [MENTION=893273]100Mhz[/MENTION] min.... VERY IMPRESSIVE. I'm going on my second day with almmost 60% .. using a qcell 6200 but still thats really good

No random reboots or bkack screen... perfection!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
Prob the next version of Saber he is testing. If all is good, we should see this bad boy soon! :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] G7Baker:
Wow 2000mhz!! I just noticed that too....thats Awesome we got a Dev that stays on top of his work. Always improving.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Negan:
Just a word of advice for when the next update comes out for 2000

DO NOT UNDERVOLT!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] psycho4us4:
?? Why
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] G7Baker:
Hey Mark I havent undervolted since this last update. Awesome performance and battery. So as long as we dont UV we can run 100mhz low to 2000mhz wit no probs? And why no UV? SOD?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Negan:
Bingo!

Ptmr3 has set the voltage for us at the most effective setting. Mind you cpu is a different story right
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] gregsarg:
This^^^^^^^^....

UV at frequency values below 200 mhz is indeed a one way ticket to frozen devices and battery pulls...or worse...

Nand restoration to regain functionality..

Excellent advice...imho....g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Negan:
Great to see you in this thread man. You're a very helpful person as I've noticed that you're great to help out in many other threads!

Cheers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] DCOCH13:
I set a 30 second delay on mine and it's holding on reboot. Without the delay it would always reset even with set on boot checked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] angieri918:
Hey guys how do you set the delay. I guess I'm totally missing it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBake88:
When in Trickster, hit menu and tap on set on boot tab. From there you will see enable, notification, and delay. Click on delay and you can then set the desired delay. :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] djbrian52:
I second that. My settings weren't holding after a reboot either. Delay of 30 sec is working perfectly. Thanks again PTMR3!

Sent from my Note II...where BIGGER is better!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] borijess:
Not that it matters. But antutu holds its settings after reboot. Dont need to set 30 second delay.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] erick161:
Does my SD card need to be reformatted? It wasn't reading my SD. 64gb class 10 sandisk. Used my backup and SD card came back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Yes to fat32

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBison420:
Loving the kernel however, i am for some odd reason getting 1 SOFT reboot a day on average.... i'll just be playing music and hear a beep sound and it will black screen until i pull the battery. The other time it was when i went to answer a call.. not really consistent. I am 100mHz min and 1.7ghz max - havent really changed anything out of the norm. battery life is still freakin excellen!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Did you uv at all?

Thanks be to XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBison420:
Negative. I am using the provided voltages
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] killerocker:
That was happening to me and it fixed itself after I reduced the max clock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
That was my next thing. Happened to me also when I was on 1920. Now went to the 1700 setting and im ok but hes there allready. Guess try 1600. But that kinda stinks that you cant oc.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] killerocker:
Well now that he has seen these comments, he can see if others have this problem and can fix it if necessary
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBison420:
To what? i am only 1800mhz

Also what governor are you using? I'm running HOTPLUG because it's given me great battery life and performance is optimal
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] killerocker:
My current setup is 100/1000 Pegasus eco mode and I turn on intelliplug at 30% battery. Stable and fast enough for me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBison420:
Shoot I gotta at least be 1.6ghz...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] killerocker:
1.6 worked fine for me too but I keep it low
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] BigBison420:
It's not a big deal to me..... I absolutely LOVE this kernel!

Also, it could have been something i did. I flashed different framework animations ... while they are designed for TW roms stuff like that can Definitely impact other software functions. Just glad its extremely minor! usually it's not with me LOL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] killerocker:
Haha we always think stuff won't happen to us