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[Nexus 10 General] MrPhilo:
The Adreno 320 is clocked at 400Mhz compared to Mali T604 533Mhz.

On GLBenchmark you'll see that the Nexus 4 is the highest for the Adreno 320 as the GPU can be clocked at 487Mhz, so if the Adreno 320 was clocked at 533Mhz, it be same or similar performance to the Mali T604.

The Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU would be better in terms of heavy application (multitasking) as 4xKrait is better than 2xA15, but both CPU are good enough for today standards compared to the A9's.

Games don't run great on the Adreno 320 is due to poor optimization (Gameloft for example) along with it being a new GPU. Mali 400MP4 performs a lot better in games as it's been around for nearly 2 years so the developers would easily know how to optimize it (Vice city runs alot smoother on S3 compared to my Nexus at max).

No offence the Exynos 5 Octa is terrible, I suppose for tablet it be fine, but I can't really imagine its 'die size' even at 28nm (4xA15, 4xA7, PowerVR 544MP3/Mali T658).

A better route would be 2xA15 & 2xA7, that sounds a lot better.

Another note, the Sony Xperia Tablet Z resolution is 1920x1200 not 1920x1080, they won't really put a similar resolution as there new smartphone holds

The memory (i/o) plays a huge role in Android for the UI smoothness as well. Asus Transformer series for example, they lag like crap when your installing an app or syncing due to there crappy memory, along with the Nexus 7. Plus I never seen any lag on my Nexus 4 while panning, and its clocked at 200Mhz max for the GPU.
[Nexus 10 General] bneshaghi:
great work,i like this
[Nexus 10 General] :
You can't compare clocks in 2 very diff archs. Not every GPU will scale linearly with clock speed. There is a point where the performance increase per MHz drops below 10% and it no longer goes up by a significant amount in regards to the amount of power it consumes. For example, clocking the 540 in the GNex past 384 only increases performance by maybe 12% but power consumption increases dramatically by comparison to performance gain. Clocking adreno to 533 won't make up the fill rate difference vs Mali t604 (its more than GPU clock limiting adreno), and even then you can OC Mali and still have it be behind. Adreno is fill rate deficient compared to its competition, doesn't mean it sucks it just limits the resolution threshold it has, which is gonna be ~1080p before then you become limited by fill rate and fps will drop into the sub 20fps area.

PS think of it this way, the iPad4 doesn't have a sgx554mp4 or a good amount of memory bandwidth (somwhere around 10gb/s assuming lpddr2 and same 128bit bus as ipad3) just for kicks :P
[Nexus 10 General] kaspar737:
iPad 4 has around 18 GB/s of bandwidth.
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
17.0004 GB/s precisely

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According to an calculation:

Overclocked adreno 320 in snapdragon s600 will score ~40fps

Adreno 330 will score ~45 fps

Sgx544mp3(in Samsung octa) ~45fps(if iPhone 5 gpu clocks at 320mhz)

In glbench onscreen 1080p

But in gaming exynos octa seems better .

(Ipad4, A6x)SGX554MP4@280MHz:4 * 8Vec4 * 2 FLOPs * 0.28GHz = 71.7 GFLOPs/s4 * 2 TMUs * 280MHz = 2.24 GTexels/s4 * 16 z * 280MHz = 17.92 GPixels/s186 M Tris/s

(Exynos octa)SGX544MP3@533MHz:3 * 4Vec4 * 2 FLOPs * 0.53GHz = 51.2 GFLOPs/s3 * 2 TMUs * 533MHz = 3.19 GTexels/s3 * 16 z * 533MHz = 25.58 GPixels/s266 M Tris/s

It will trail the A6X in raw ALU throughput but beat it in terms of fillrate, texture rate, triangle setup, etc.,[/quote]

Glbench requires more ALU shader power so iPad 4 would be better in glbench but in gaming it might not be same.

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[Nexus 10 General] :
I underestimated :P I calculated that much but I was mostly making assumptions and guesses so I didn't wanna say that xP

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I've noticed powervr chips scale pretty well with clock speed yes? I see the iPad staying solid in benches but in real world use the exynos octa has the advantage of more processing power for things like physics when it comes to games c: exynos octa will be a real solid performer in the mobile space. GPU between the 2 will be close even with the lack of one core with the increased clock
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
If the PoverVR sgx543mp3 in iPhone is clocked at 266mhz then exynos octa could get even better benchmarks..(then it will be exactly 2x of iPhone 5 ,same unit setup ,266x2= 532)

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[Nexus 10 General] :
Thats assuming the powervr chip and a 500mhz+ clock (and that the sgx544 is relatively equal to 554 on a per core base), I've also heard that they may put the mali450mp in the exynos octa. I'm personally interested in the mali chip, the 450 is said to double the performance at 4 cores of the Mali400. Mali 450mp4 vs mali400mp4 the 450 supposedly has double the geometry and texture performance, not including that it scales to 8cores also. It they put the 450 in the one thing I pray for the 450 is they at least gave it 2-3 vertex units instead of one. Mali400 was perfect from a fill rate standpoint and with the fact that that's the more important thing these days they got away with it having only the geometry performance of the sgx540.
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-appears-in-glbenchmark-12-02-2013/

Galaxy s4 mini(supposedly) seen on glbench website

Found something

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Samsung+SHV-E300S&benchmark=glpro25

Those are first glbenchmarks of s600 used in galaxy s4 mini which scores 41.7 fps in glbenchmark

(here clocked at 1.9ghz)

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[Nexus 10 General] GSLEON3:
Throwing out everything except perception & hands on performance when using any game, for this case I used Flick QB, Flick Kicker & NFL Flick QB 2013.

On two Tegra 3 devices including the Nexus 7, no lag or stuttering was present at all. All games played well & ran smoothly.

On two S4 devices, there was no lag, but there were dropped frames & some moderate tearing.

On the Exynos 4 powered Note 2 & Note 10,1, there was no lag, no stuttering & very few dropped frames. The games all ran pretty well.

On the Nexus 10, all three games had freezes & stuttering & there were noticeable moments when touch was either not registered or it was registering after a sizable delay.

I am waiting on a Snapdragon Developer tablet with the S4 pro to compare.

Playing this three games on numerous devices (yes, with different resolutions & sizes) they all played best on the Tegra 3 devices, followed closely by the Exynos 4 & then the S4 (standard dual). The Exynos 5 provided the least pleasant experience with these games.

Benchmarks are all fine & dandy, but when it comes to real world performance, the Exynos 5 is either not properly implemented, or it's just not capable enough to handle games that must process movement while handling numerous screen touches on a screen with the Nexus 10's resolution.

My Note 10.1 has a lower resolution, but it handles these games much better & the battery life trumps the N10.

I don't know what folks are doing to not see the stutter & lag, but I have several friends & co-workers that said the same thing until I demonstrated this same thing on their devices. Wipe cache, wipe davlik, reset, start one of the above games & after a few minutes, you see the character become jerky, the scrolling scoreboards also start to stutter, you get some tearing if you change the angle of view of the character & then screen touch recognition start to lag intermittently. I have been able to reproduce it on 7 or 8 Nexus 10 devices, which is every one I got my hands on.
[Nexus 10 General] :
Its Android 4.2 honestly, had to go back to 4.1 on my GNex because of the lag and stutter. Also this is more of a comparing the processors than the tabs. The n10 is more than able to handle its given workload but the issues its plagued with performance wise are software not hardware related.

PS note 10.1 master race reporting in :P
[Nexus 10 General] nrage23:
I have the Nexus 10 and I just got the Droid DNA with the Qualcomm S4 in it. Thought I would run a few comparisons. Quadrant is skewed due to resolution differences.

Geekbench Numbers:

S4@1.5ghz = 2126

S4@1.7ghz = 2171

Exynos 5@1.5ghz = 2204

Exynos 5@1.7ghz = 2470

Quadrant Numbers:

Resolution 1920x1080

S4@1.5ghz = 8062

S4@1.7ghz = 8187

Resolution 2560x1600

Exynos 5@1.5ghz = 4304

Exynos 5@1.7ghz = 4460

GL Benchmark Off Screen Only (1920x1080)

S4@1.5ghz

Fill Rate = 784583680

Triangle Throughput Textured V lit = 432823372

Triangle Throughput Textured Frag lit = 34000000

2.5 Egypt HD = 27fps

2.5 Egypt HD Fixed Timestep = 15fps

2.1 Egypt Classic = 57fps

Exynos 5@1.7ghz

Fill Rate = 1125049728

Triangle Throughput Textured V lit = 44319488

Triangle Throughput Textured Frag lit = 36250872

2.5 Egypt HD = 36fps

2.5 Egypt HD Fixed Timestep = 29fps

2.1 Egypt Classic = 84fps

Linpack

S4@1.5ghz

Multithreaded 173.525 MFLOPS

Single Thread 225.966

Exynos 5@1.7ghz

Multithreaded 167.162 MFLOPS

Single Thread 96.25

(S4 is running android 4.1.1)

(Exynos 5 is running android 4.2.1)
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
Nexus 10 stutters sometimes doesn't prove that it has a weak soc ,instead it has the most powerful one..

Throttling is all I can say.

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[Nexus 10 General] GSLEON3:
It can be the most powerful processor in the world, but if it is poorly implemented, well that power really doesn't really mean squat, does it?

Maybe it is software related, but since part of the Nexus process is Google working closely with the OEM on a device with hardware that is supposed to compliment the OS & since the OEM in this case is also the designer & manufacturer of the processor, there really is no excuse.
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
It just consumes a lot of power, 8w is just too much for an handheld device

I think under volting CPU/GPU might help somewhat ,so that it's TDP doesn't jump to 8w again and again which would again cause throttling.

I don't own one ,so I dont know which configuration could help you.

But i think screen might be the culprit for the power requirement.

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[Nexus 10 General] omac_ranger:
I honestly don't think it's the screen.. with the wifi off and reading a book or doing lower end things on the screen I'm able to get nearly 10+ hours of battery life - while on the other hand with wifi, bluetooth, and whatnot going on the background I only get around 6ish.
[Nexus 10 General] :
The lag is not limited to the n10 though, my gnex experienced it on 4.2 aswell as an n7 I use at work and my note 10.1 on cm. All to different degrees, but that points to software which is Googles issue.

My gnex for example dropped 10fps in benches from 4.1->4.2
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
Maybe someone could pinpoint the problem,someday

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[Nexus 10 General] jm6001:
Doesnt actually consume 8W... on avg 4W.. but yes max tdp is 8W
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
If you undervolt it ,8w wont be reached but it could be above 4w

At least better than throttling down to 4w

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[Nexus 10 General] MrPhilo:
True that but the Galaxy Nexus was bandwidth limited, the Adreno 320 has plenty more to use. Anyways Samsung new device with the Adreno 320 scores a higher score than the 'normal' Adreno 320 and the Mali T604. Which I presume they have overclocked it as they overclocked the CPU to 1.9Ghz from 1.7Ghz. Which i'm not surprised as its a MSM8960T, so it uses less energy than the S4 Pro Quads.

http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp

EDIT: Overclocking the GPU does increase fillrate not like a lot but it does and I know all GPU's architecture are different. Take the PowerVR for example. The iPhone 5 higher clocked SGX 543MP3 produces 1650 fill and iPad 3 SGX543MP4 produces 1801. If the clocks was same on iPhone 5 it should average around 1350 fill, but got a increase of 300 due to higher clock speed, so clock speed can help increase fill rate.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review/2
[Nexus 10 General] i9100g user:
I think that is a snapdragon s600

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[Nexus 10 General] :
Didn't say it doesn't but the fill rate between them is bigger than a couple hundred MHz and diff GPU scale diff with clock, it may only increase fill marginally with clock. The power vr chips are known to scale well with clock speed increasing fill and geometry pretty evenly, but adreno may not. And if your comparing OC GPU then you gotta oc the Mali by the same amount and compare which would still put it behind. Like I said, adreno doesn't suck its just not the best, and Mali is only the best in the Android space, PowerVR chips hold the ranking title with a solid grip. The guys making PVR chips have been at it since mid 90s so they got the experience in the space vs arm and Qualcomm.
[Nexus 10 General] EniGmA1987:
Remember though that Thermal Design Power does not necessarily equal actual power draw
[Nexus 10 General] :
exactly, TDP =/= actual draw in use, sometimes its more sometimes its less
[Nexus 10 General] MrPhilo:
The Mali T604 is pretty much overclocked, just like the Mali 400MP4 on S3 compared to S2, the die size is what helped it become clockable to that speed, so a more 'equal' comparison would be same clockspeed not 'add more'. Also did you even check GLBenchmark? It clearly shows that the Adreno 320 (Samsung SHV-E300S) is better than the Mali T604 when overclocked at similar speed i'm guessing. Which you stated it'll be behind is incorrect. I'm not hating on the Mali T604, but it consumes more power while at similar performance to an Adreno 320 which uses less power (which is why it's in smartphones).

Obviously PowerVR has an advantage, it only has to concentrate on one thing, it's GPU, while Qualcomm has to concentrate on CPU, GPU and Modem.
[Nexus 10 General] :
Qualcomm has seperate labs for each, so they too can focus on individual aspects, like how AMD has its CPU and GPU devisions. Also, I was saying compare oc adreno to stock mali THEN compare oc to oc adreno. As for the malit604 being OC , increasing clock spd with die shrink is normal, but afaik we have no info on malit604 default clocks as designed by arm. Mali400 in s3 was set to default clock for its die size as intended by arm so it wasnt OC but running at its intended speed. The s2 die size was too large to keep mali400 within intended tdp, the gpu in s3 even at its higher clock uses = or less power and that is default speed at that point. The malit604 in exynos 5 is actually probably set a bit lower than its max clock as is usual in a mobile design, so assuming with the standard practice of downclocking 100-200+mhz the mali t604 still outperforms adreno320 assuming the same for adreno, and afaik there are no definitive performance/watt numbers for each so saying adreno is better on a per watt base is opinion not fact. Also thats assuming that the mentioned samsung device is legit, which we wont know for a while in regards to benchs, I prefer to use numbers for devices currently out to compare to a SoC on the market already.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverstream:
After upgrading to LSC, I noticed that "Keep wifi on during sleep" when set to NEVER, no longer work. Under battery, wifi is constantly ON.

Any one has a fix for this ?
[General Questions and Answers] gaixixon:
duplicated post.
[LG Optimus Me P350] venkat kamesh:
Hi i think you are waiting out for the tut on how to use

its not very difficult ,,.. I had already updated the script to set for p350 (ldpi devices too)

So what you need :-

1. My scripts ( http://www.mediafire.com/?oi092j9yb0ym1w2 )

2. A rom (to apply)

3. My small tool to zipalign ( http://www.mediafire.com/?45a7ue259r4j80t )

4. A thinking brain and patience to implement

STEP#1

First of all you need to download the script here :- http://www.mediafire.com/?oi092j9yb0ym1w2

After the download just extract them to desktop with any new folder like this

and extract into that folder and you can see META-INF and installbusybox ... (even we have busy box with roms its a option with aroma so i gave them)

STEP#2

Any rom which you like to do work extract them at same place like this in pic

and here get into the rom folder and delete the META_INF file as in pic

STEP#3

Now copy the scripts of mine to the place of the rom like this

If you need any edits do it as per your rom

STEP#4

Now need to zip the rom you made/edited follow up the pics

Name the rom as you like ....

STEP#5

DOWNLOAD THIS FILE I HAD CREATED THIS FOR EASY SIGN WILL BE USED FOR YOU PEOPLE :- http://www.mediafire.com/?45a7ue259r4j80t

Copy to the same place and extract them like in pic

Now copy the zip file you got zipped into the tools folder to zipalign like this

NOTE

:- YOU NEED TO PLACE ONLY ONE ZIP IN IT.... IF YOU PLACE MORE ZIP FILES IT DONT SIGN ALL AT ONCE

STEP#6

Double click on the zip_signer it will automatically sign up and give you a file named as update-finished.zip like in pic

Congratulations now you are done!!!!! now ready to flash via recovery ,..... copy to sd and flash via recovery

ENJOY !!!!!!

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[LG Optimus Me P350] venkat kamesh:
reserved

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[LG Optimus Me P350] luisakira2301:
Thanks my bro :)
[LG Optimus Me P350] yogesh1349:
Great work bro :good:
[LG Optimus Me P350] DarkRising:
Man a long time no see you work.

Great job for you =D
[LG Optimus Me P350] djnand:
Long time no see your work kamesh :) great job bro...
[LG Optimus Me P350] coma666black:
Work on Cyanogenmod7??
[LG Optimus Me P350] luisakira2301:
Yes bro all roms!

Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS...
[LG Optimus Me P350] coma666black:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdaGiallo:
Hello,

Anyone know how to be root?

Name Phone: Clone Samsung Galaxy S9300

Brand: alps

Phone Model: e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017

CPU: MTK6577

Android: 4.1.1

Build Numbre: e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017_20121212

Kernel: Linux version 3.4.0 (root@w12345-desktop)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 12 01:30:13 CST 2012.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charlesrdavis:
Root clone S9300

Did you ever find a solution? I have same phone and build and have tried many things without success.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceon6969:
Any solution?

I'm in the same circumstances to see if someone can help because I'm tired of searching and searching without any solution.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spags1213:
Well I, like many of you, have had my phone now for just over a year and I think its about time to look for something new. Restarts are becoming increasingly frequent and my SIM tray has become exposed to the harsh world that is a pocket as my back has snapped in two. After hundreds of reflashes and ROM installs, the phone is finally starting to give in. Anyone else experiencing similar circumstances? With the last sliver of plastic barely covering my battery, I've been looking for a worthy replacement of the BEST phone I've owned to date.

So, that being said...

What phone are you guys itching to get your hands on?

For me, I obviously see the S4 as the strongest phone, spec wise, to be coming out this year but with a release date said to be sometime after May, I may need something earlier.

HTC M7- meeeeeehh. I'd get it if it was the only 1080p phone AT&T will bring in.

Any LG Phone- nope.

Xperia Z- I reaaaally like how this phone looks and with all its specs, its tops on my list. Who knows though, by the time it comes to the states, octacores will be standard and it'll sell like the x10.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] crashpsycho:
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S4

Tablet:Nexus 7 cuz of price and space
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mindmajick:
I'm weird. I won't know until this one dies
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Mike:
Galaxy S4

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Both of my choices are the same as the ops, but we'll see how long my rocket can hold out for
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] hechoen:
Something in early 2014. I do like Samsung but we'll see who comes out with the 2.5ghz octi-core, 20 megapixel camera, self-charging from body heat phone/tab/wallet first. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] whosgotlag:
S4 or Nexus if it carries LTE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Steviemac12:
Galaxy S4 for me too. Hope it doesn't take too long to get to us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Taveras Martin:
I've been looking@ the Optimus G. Like the specs. Upgrade coming in May. I'll try and hold off until then. But S4 probably
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jondroid2:
Probably the S4. Maybe hold out for the Motorola X phone if it's going to have Key Lime Pie and a Maxx battery. Not in a big hurry. Loving my SR with EMBRYO-6.1 :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
S4. Heard it's a March 22 release. 8 cores. It's gota fly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
I still think those rumors of an 8 core are false, that chip set design is VERY new. And at the earliest itll drop in may, we may see reviews and sneak peaks in March however
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jedah:
Maybe the next Nexus, if they're able to keep the price down again and meet demand.... or if a smaller G-Note ever comes out.

I'm in no hurry though. SlimBean has been rock solid for me. I'm also getting great speeds on T-Mo (even faster d-load speeds than my friend's G-Nex) in the Bay Area.. and I have the option to go back to ATT's LTE if I ever wanted to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] grumpyspud:
My backup phone: Samsung Rugby Smart.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] skez:
Gotta be the Galaxy s4 or the next Nexus that has LTE :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] MrGriffdude:
I think I'm holding out for the Samsung Galaxy s 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tjsooley:
Off contract international s3 or s4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] the k9:
Either the note 2 or the next iteration in the note series. I'll never buy a nexus phone, and the note screen size is too good to pass on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] vincom:
with the contracts the way they are in canada, i'll be ready for the s8
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
very true, but I only had to get a two year "data only" plan, and I STILL had to pay $200 for the rocket. I may just buy my next phone full price off contract
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] toyfj2k7:
Nexus 4 or iPhone 5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lrn2board:
Note 2! Have had since launch and it's amazing. You do get used to the screen size and watching any type of mpvie or playing games never looked better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kparikh82276:
Mine too, I've got the skyrocket, thanks to xda I was able to update rom but as soon as my contact allows me to I'll get the upgrade to note 2.

Note 2 doesn't look that bad also doesn't look that big either. Very manageable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] vbrookie:
After Sensation and Flyer issues and Droid and Atrix digitizer problems, I will stay away from both HTC and Motorola for awhile longer.

It will be flagship Samsung, Sony or LG for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bearclaw7380:
Useless thread. Doesn't even pertain to the skyrocket. Reported. No fun allowed here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] hechoen:
Yep. Useless to post to a useless thread. Double useless. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Clark Joseph Kent:
Thread Closed and Members lets have the fun Here>>>>

Thanks