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[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
What I want to know is...

Why did Sony not blow us away with the Xperia Z? Forget about processor, lets focus on the Multimedia (camera, screen, music).

Why did they not include a better screen? If I'm not mistaken, the HTC One X (which has a better screen then the Z) was manufactured by Sony. Why not include something with similar quality?

Why didn't they include any hardware improvements to make sound better? Amp? Or an integrated amp (is this even possible?).

I just feel that Sony has so many resources at hand, yet didn't have the right vision.
[Xperia Z General] Ussy:
If this is true then the Xperia Z beats the HTC one hands down for me:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2167475

I'm glad I pre-ordered as tomorrow I get my shiny new phone and sweet headphones!
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
I think Sony nailed it with Xperia Z. Only part that bugs me is DAC. Qualcomm's DAC in S4Pro sucks :S
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
It isn't true.

AT&T at the very least confirmed that they are getting a 64gb version, and they will have LTE.

As far as LTE tho... do countries outside of Canada and the USA really have widespread LTE usage?
[Xperia Z General] Ussy:
I should have said for the UK market. I'm sure the US will get 64GB + LTE, albeit a few months later than the rest of the world.

We currently have one LTE operator but another 3 will be rolling out this summer, mainly due to silly government authority delays.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yawn... Same old criticism, same old!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Finally I got my Xperia Z - Black Beauty !! :D
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
early impressions?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Looks good so far, display is very as long as you are looking straight.

Till now the only thing I didnt like is the placement of speaker - its horrible.

It should be termed as MUTE GRIP OF DEATH !! :D

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[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

The absolute best part about the XpEria Z is its build quality which is ridiculously good. Once you get over that there's nothing special about the device, nothing that really is different to me.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

What the funnnkk - chk below link

http://www.kaunsa.com/Detail/11598/Sony-Xperia-ZL.html

Xperia ZL for INR 29999 ie USD 555 !!

sent from Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] akong702:
Wow, that's a nice price for the ZL. Definitely waiting for the U.S release for the ZL. What's the hold up Sony????:confused:
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Dat...Revealed/Samsung_GT-I9500_Browsermark_689.jpg

GALAXY S4 BROWSER MARK BENCHMARK

[GTI9500 ]GALAXY S4 Scores 2710 , HTC one scores 2262

Xperia z scores 1800 ,Ipad 4 scores 2400, Tegra 4 scores 2777 ,but this looks like octa more here

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[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Galaxy s4 will use Exynos 5410 Octa

ALL SPECIFICATIONs !

(From antutu)

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[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
Ok, so I got my Xperia Z today and here is a couple of videos that I have recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P32rdsmgNqU

The first one is the initial impressions and Real Racing 3 performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_3Zz045B0

The second one is yet another look at the Xperia Z screen.

Let me know if you would like any more videos showing Xperia Z.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
Holy that is exciting.

If Samsung gets big little mp on the GS4.... the performance will be fantastic.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Even without it.. it's still four A15 cores we're talking about - which are significantly faster than kraits. The GPU too. Also, the European version will have a Wolfson DAC, microSD etc.

Since I'm never going to run a benchmark on my phone, the S4 pro is plenty sufficient for me so I don't really care.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

The Galaxy S IV is gonna be ultra future proof with that SoC
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Xperia z vs HTC one camera

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[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Nothing is future proof in the technology world, let along "Ultra" :silly:
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

With a big LITTLE SoC and a A15 architecture, it will be future proof. I don't see the need of more power Yvan thst for the next couple if years. Ultra son
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Will it? So in 2 years when there are 2 Oct cores on a chip, double to what the S4 is supposed to have, you will still say the S4 is future proof?
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

For a year It will be enough to be still one of the top with those exynos5 octa chips. Way better than sony who went with 2012 year soc and a screen worse than a 2012 year smartphone screen..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I think Future Proof means Samsung will NOT dilute Galaxy S4 with Galaxy S4S, etc.

Xperia Z is NOT even launched properly (ZL also) and there are specs leaked for XZ equivalent, I mean its ridiculous !!
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
I wonder why people don't listen to experienced developers like Entropy512. He explained very well how this new "octa" SoC works, along with Samsung's "legendary" software/drivers support - and he is an engineer that knows a lot about those things...surely, it will be faster than S4 etc. but don't expect any huge performance leaps - as this seems to be what most people here believe... it seems that marketing and numbers have the priority.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

If GPU(paired withh LPDDR3 ram) performs like new ipad , then I think it will support games with full effects for a longer time(in future) compared to s4 pro .

Also I expect way better battery on standby compared to s4 pro.

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---------- Post added at 05:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:12 PM ----------

But here the difference in availability between these 2 phones would be of 1-2 months not 2 years. :confused:

And no one(at least people in this thread:p) is considering it faster on the sole basis of its name.

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[Xperia Z General] :
S4 specs leaked, real ones now not a joke or piss take.

Exynos Octa 5410 CPU clocked at 1.8GHz, PowerVR SGX 544MP GPU, 2GB of RAM, 4.99″ Full HD (1920×1080) display and a 13 Megapixel Camera.
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
They need a huge battery for that processor.

Also the S4 will probably use an overclocked QUALCOMM processor not Exynos.

see the link below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtuHxgrWlTI
[Xperia Z General] :
Agree about the battery but I'm sure Samsung will see to that.

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/03...s-leak-confirm-exynos-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp/

IF those specs are true then I know ill be tempted to buy it... Love my Z though and dont usual have 2 android phones :/
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
No point in owning 2 android phones, they will be doing the same thing more or less, even if one is just faster at it.

I would probably buy the new iphone to compliment my Z if I were to get another phone but that seems pointless.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

That's a 3 months old render

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=p5YPaBkhKZI

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[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Oh wrong thread:p
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Absolutely. I think with the big LITTLE architecture, the A15 cores, the mobile industry is good for the next couple of years. That's A LOT of power. They can focus on other things, New batteries, new screen technologies, software (as always), cameras.... I can't see the need of 8 A15 cores. What I can see is improved versions of current SoC for better power consumption.

Let me ask you this, now that there's an octa cores ( 2X4 cores) does it make the S4 pro irrelevant? Do you think the S4 pro won't be able to handle things next year?
[Xperia Z General] :
Good point. Look at GNex. a dual-core A9. Still running quite well. It maynot be as fast as newer phones, but still very decent phone at this stage. I am sure anyone using this now can run this for another 1-2 yrs minimum.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Exactly. The galaxy nexus is still relevant, and still kicks a$$. Having 2 times 4 cores with a set of A15 cores at 28nm process on a mobile device, I mean seriously. If I get the same Exynos 5 octa SoC in 2 years with a software that utilises it than I'm good. It's just like the 1080p resolution, I think we are good for the next few years but we can improve colors saturation, viewing angles, lcd4, super Amoled HD triple z u name it :p
[Xperia Z General] force70:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I loved.my gnex,especially since i bought it in europe and.it was the white model but sorry guys it cant hold a candle to.my s3..not even close. Plus it didnt even have LTE capability.now that being said i will be curious to see if these next gen phones are that far ahead of.the s3`s,one x`s etx.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Of course, that's because the S3 has more horsepower. But the point I'm making is that the galaxy nexus is still powerful nonetheless. Jelly bean,. With its project butter, literally breathed new life in that phone. But yes, newer phones are gonna outperform it as they should be.
[Xperia Z General] force70:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol...more horsepower is always better, and now that applies to my phones along with my mustang :p
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
SIV to be made of plastic

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ive-performer-but-made-out-of-plastic_id40442
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
which old soc/phone used the same a7 core from the new octo core? is it even enough for 1080p operation?
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Xperia Z Vs iPhone 5 , camera test: - SHOOTOUT

[YOUTUBE]z0cN_NPSNu0[/YOUTUBE]

Love the Z quality!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I have to say that the Iphone 5 does a better job overall but the Z is pretty decent.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
iPhone 5 does better at close ups, Xperia Z better in low light and with colours...also with stereo sound recording!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yes the Z does better in low light I noticed.
[Xperia Z General] giuliano199:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Found this just now!
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
Z is better all around, night or day recording.
[Xperia Z General] :
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Think I'll be switching to a One or S4. After a few days with the Z I'm not fully happy. Screen is washed out despite me trying to see past it, and battery life isn't the best.

I don't want to knock the phone but that's currently my feelings on it right now.
[Xperia Z General] jameslfc5:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I'm feeling the same way, I probably won't switch to the One but the S4 is looking likely as long as they go for capacitive buttons... And they massively improve the white levels of AMOLED, I don't know why they've chosen TFT :( they should of gone for SLCD3 :(
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

:D.funniest post ever..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] xdlol123321:
GS4 <3

Expecting the GS4 :) <3
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

It looks like once you get passed the great build quality , there's nothing that exciting about this phone.
[Xperia Z General] :
That's exactly how I feel about it. Got a iPhone 5 and Xperia Z to sell so getting a HTC One or S4 is no problem. I do love the build of the Z but not much more than that. Will 4.2.2 make any difference? who knows but not sure I'm willing to wait that long... The One and the S4 are just around the corner. I'll know more on the 15th on my next move.

Each to their own though.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Hmm.... I am eyeing for htc one or s4 too

Except for camera and battery One looks good

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[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah to each his own. But this is a great "start" for Sony, what I mean by that is that the successor of this phone will be Much better. They nailed the build quality, sound they have a couple of feature here and there with the XZ. It successor should be interesting. But I don't think the XZ can compete with the HTC One and definitely not the S IV.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
I don't understand how you can say that the XZ can't compete with the HTC One and definitely not the S4, when a neither are out yet, I know the HTC One has been launched, but it has pluses and minus compared to the XZ. The S4 also doesn't look to be light years ahead of either the XZ or the HTC One....so it comes down to preference really doesn't it.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

That's why I said to each his own. The rest is my opinion based on official reviews and users reviews. Yes the S IV isn't released yet but it is the most anticipated android phone this year so far, so it is fair to say that the XZ won't be able to compete with it.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Oh so your talking about sales, in that case going by the S3's figures then yes the S4 will no doubt sell more than the XZ....but like you say each to their own....it's great we have so many great phone's to choose from! :good:
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yes that's the beauty of android. And at the end of the day, these companies compete to sell more, it doesn't necessarily mean the phone is better cause its sells more ( the obvious example would be the iPhone). But I expect the S IV to be an overall better phone than the XZ.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Agree on your example there! Samsung are turning into Apple imo, with all their marketing etc... they've taken a leaf out of Apple's book which has helped their sales tremendously,good one them!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yep. But android is too strong right now, just too strong. Times change and apple will be forced to do some unusual changes like release a phone with a bigger screen, change their UI, maybe release different types of iPhones too who knows. Yeah Samsung is becoming apple like in terms of growth and marketing and all that. Not to sound fanboyish, but they are the only one that can compete with apple ( sales) that's why apple is suing them left and right.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Yeah agreed they have got a great range of products and are growing all the time, also unlike Apple they seem to be one of the few companies that are innovating, Apple have just stalled imo. I believe you are right Apple will go against their morals and will have to bring out bigger iPhones etc. That's the only way they will continue to sell, otherwise they will get left behind!
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
Samsung innovate? rarely, Copy best products in the market is what Samsung is all about, really its part of their DNA sine the beginning. Strong and aggressive marketing are really what go them so far, and cheap too and all the price fixing on their TV and other stuffs. I remember all their stuffs used to be cheaper than all the competitors of the similar devices. Average Joe walk into a store they are pretty much guarantee to go for the cheapest available 9/10 of the time. I used to buy a lot of their products until I learn my lesson the expensive way. own a S3 now, and I believe it will be my last Samsung device forever.
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

S3 isn't cheap though, fair enough about your t.v. Experience but lets keep it phone related
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Forever and ever? lol

Anyways i just watched this vid from phonedog, unboxing of the xperia z

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/sony-xperia-z-unboxing/

The phone looks absolutely amazing, ive seen other reviews and all but for some reason in this video it looks sooo good ( check how the phone looks when he takes the plastic off ). Well done Sony.
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
PLASTIC PLASTIC PLASTIC xD http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/

Damn you samsumg.
[Xperia Z General] Warrimonk:
I do not understand peoples aversion to plastic. It has many benefits:

1. It is more flexible, so it can take more abuse before breaking

2. It is an easier material to send signals through, meaning better signal (or lower power radios)

3. It is cheaper, but that can also be a good thing. It costs less to replace if damaged.

Imagine you have 3 phones, an HTC One, Galaxy S3, and Xperia Z:

You drop them on concrete ( :eek: ), which dents the back of the HTC One (and scrapes it), Cracks the back of the Xperia Z, and cracks and disfigures the plastic on the back of the Galaxy S3. The phones all look like garbage. Now which of these phones would you rather have?????

Xperia Z and HTC One, with their "Premium" non-removable materials would either cost a ton to replace yourself (plus technical knowledge), or require exchange/warrantry.

With the S3, you go on eBay, order a new back for 10 bucks, and that's it, phone looks like new again.

4. Of course everything I said for 3 could be avoided if you just put a nice case on your phone.... but then you never feel that "premium material" anyways, so why make a big deal about it.

All of the upcoming phones this year look amazing, just pick the one you like... but I do not understand how people can so blindly hate something without looking at the bigger picture first.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Hmm..

I am ok with normal plastic, if they offer better battery, better hardware and better/same software then I would choose it over xperia z and htc one any day.

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[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I own the note (which is bigger than all these phones) and have never dropped it once. The Z's back is made of gorilla glass 2 and the front is of dragontrail.I don't think it'll break that easily. And rhino shield is coming out too.
[Xperia Z General] Warrimonk:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

None of the phones should break easily.... but as you will see there's already reports of people cracking/denting the XZ.

Good for you for never dropping your phone..... but just because you don't doesnt mean its not likely to be dropped.

The point I want to make is that people need to realize premium comes at the cost of expensive replacements if a mishap occurs.

Funnily enough one of my friends has destroyed so many phones (her parents brand new razr hd maxx)... yet hasnt even dropped her nexus 4 yet. How ironic.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I see your point, personally I've dropped my phones one or two times over the years, luckily nothing serious! I also have phone insurance just incase, I prefer to make a claim and keep my phone liking new, so I'm all over premium build handsets!
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

GALAXY S4 SCREEN SHOTS LEAKED

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[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Hmmm, seriously but these are NOT enough, Samsung plz change your design for S5 at least - its time go premium (copy SONY now) :)
[Xperia Z General] bucho2004:
Samsing phones,

Powerfull and innovative, but for the most gimmicky and so so ugly
[Xperia Z General] rycexboi:
I have nothing against samsung but yeah, thats how I feel also. Spec sheet looks good, but in hand usage, not so great.
[Xperia Z General] :
Decided to skip on the HTC One, apparently battery life isnt the best like the Z. S4 my only hope now...
[Xperia Z General] Dannyada1988:
I am just very interested in the eye scrolling technology that S4 has used.If the effects of the technology likes Samsung said, that's really awesome.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

If it uses front cam for that, battery life will definitely take a hit.
[Xperia Z General] Terencefoo:
The batt life of s4 seems amazing comparing with others:)