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[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredastere:
*#*#4636#*#* -> phone information -> options ( bottom right button ) -> select baseband
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EAK47:
Do you have the 6602 or 6603 model?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegregulator:
I'm a little slow. Thanks bud. I get pretty terrible reception up at my house but when I head into Vancouver today I'll try a few speedtests and post some screenshots.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dommage:
6603
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] airbus318:
So just landed here in Calgary and I have LTE. Check this out.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Man this phone is all.over the place..some are getting lte,some are getting decent hspa speeds some are getting super slow hspa speeds?

I havent bought because lte hasnt worked on it but now it does? This is odd.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
Rogers they have already started selling the ZL, and it looks like the ZL is LTE compatible on their network.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
It has lte in some areas because that area supports 850 where as most urban areas support 1900.

Big cities like Vancouver most likely only support 1900

Zl is meant for north American countries. But still different models support different countries
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Pretty sure.lte is 1700,2100,2600 dude.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - C6603

it does have all the LTE bands but its missing the HSDPA of 1900.

This incident totally proves that an LTE phone cannot obtain LTE if the device itself is missing the HSDPA 1900.

All over Canada, 1900 is used in urban areas where as 850 is used for secondary purposes.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SmallsXD:
HSPA has nothing to do with LTE bands...the LTE bands are listed as numbers (1,3...etc) look up the frequencies online
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EG8196:
April fools has passed.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
You guys aren't getting it.

Yes the c6603 has the lte it met all the bands here in Canada. Everyone thought it will work and get lte.

Guess what it doesn't work. Why? It's missing the hspda band 1900. Not unless you can come up with a better explanation.

There's a reason why Sony held back on the z for north America. You think they didn't bother doing a test first? Thats why they are working on a c6606 now.

If you still don't get it. Think of it as a process, step 1 2 3.

How do you get to step 3 if you're missing step 2?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EG8196:
C6603 does not have the AWS bands (1700/2100) for LTE.

1700/2100 are the major freq. for LTE in Canada

HSPA freq have nothing to do with LTE
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
Well when I said all I dont meant all lol. You should understand what I meant though. No need to pick such tiny statement that doesn't change my point.

Either way it doesn't work with c6603. There's no point arguing when this is the conclusion. The truth is here, take it or leave it. Sony is making a c6606.

EDIT:

I dont see your point if you say C6603 doesnt support those bands of major carriers like rogers. If that is where you are heading, (assuming) why would you buy C6603 if you knew it wouldnt support it?

Again if youre pointing towards that...

C6603 supports 4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600. and that is a wide range of bands.

Rogers Wireless Canada LTE Bands 1700/2100/2600, bands of 4/7, launch date since July 2011 AWS

Theoretically speaking, it should work as band 2600 is still being deployed across Canada. Again that is two LTE bands that matches Rogers LTE network. In Vancouver BC, Rogers should already have 2600 deployed as they advertised it in their website with the LG Optimus G 2600 and if you click over to the specs of the LG Optimus G 2600:

its LTE bands supports ONLY 700/2600. that only matches ONE of rogers LTE bands. Scroll up and you will see its HSPA bands and GSM bands both supports 850 and 1900.

and yes, my friend has the rogers LG optimus g 2600 and he gets LTE 2600. So it is deployed in Vancouver!! and the website is "BC"

and yes, one of my friend that just came back from asia with C6603 doesnt get LTE at all. And so far anyone here from Vancouver probably doesnt get LTE with the c6603. People who claims to have LTE, good for you, and one question towards you if you do have it. How long of LTE do you have? Like i posted earlier. I spoke with one of the sales at this cellphone place, he said "Even if you get LTE, its probably for a few minutes, and on top of that, you are probably not even getting the LTE speed at all."

In addition, I forgot where i read this off from but its from awhile back. Im not exactly sure what that person stated but, anyway... he said something like different bands (GSM, HSPDA, etc...) works differently. They have their own purpose, and that is why till this day we still have GSM and HSPDA bands out there.

For Example

: GSM may offer call support, where as HSPDA may offer video calling, where as LTE may offer video streaming etc... so basically different bands have their own purposes, and im not going to do a full research and give you a report of what bands are capable of doing.

Anyway, pce!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GodKingKnight:
Disappointment by Sony

Once again sony disappoints everyone. Brings out an excellent flagship phone only to release it to Europe? Like wth are you thinking? Common so lame. Canadians are one of the highest smartphone mix users in the world. Sony is an idiot and this is why Apple kicks they're butt!

adb shell getprop ro.aa.modelid
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cs098:
meh the zl is practically the same thing as the z with the same specs, screen and camera and only loses the design and water resistance for smaller bezels, ir blaster and a camera button.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Well yeah...the point that the design is totally different makes it pretty much not the same thing,spec wise sure but the reason most want the Z is for that sexy design.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Imdking:
Accidental "Thanks" while trying to scroll.... Shyt!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jotamide:
Why the **** would they do this to begin with? Does it have to do with the mobile network companies here?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Very poor business decision imo..even if they do release the lte version of the z here by then the s4 and htc one will be out and ppl will have went either way there.sony missed the boat on this one..too bad. Since it is one of the best looking devices ever made imo.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Where did you Canadians purchase your Z from ?

Looking to get one as well

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271182988117 << this guy safe?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] giagiagia:
Yeah Just ordered my new phone

I just placed an order of XZ C6603 with Omegacell.com located in AB , paid C$700 plus only GST with free shipping. Just tired of waiting for the C6606 release, but am very excited
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curseknight:
confusion

Well when I asked their tech, they said

"As far as LTE service in Vancouver is concerned, if you go to (Rogers Coverage Site), whatever you see in blue color will show you service area for LTE. Our LTE network band works on 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz. So if your device does not work on the exact band, you will not get a good LTE service on it."

How are you certain your friends Optimus G is running on LTE2600 and not LTE700 for now.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
Cause I ran a speed test on his phone and his download was 30 mbps.

I don't believe lte 700 can do such high mbps.

Like i said earlier, 2600 is still being deployed. Maybe that map isn't updated yet. And on top of that, Rogers won't do false advertisement like that about such a huge thing. They even had a video up showing the differences between normal Lte and 2600 lte.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forzanerazzurri:
Excellent. I got mine from Handtec in the UK. Was about 650 CDN shipped. I placed the order and it was at my door in Canada within 48 hours.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curseknight:
I have an iPhone 5 and i receive 20-60 mbps down and 15-30 up in metro Vancouver. I'm sure that video was filmed somewhere like Toronto... The only place i've been seeing with working LTE at times or great HSDPA speeds.

Yes i do hope this deployment will change Vancouver to finally be able to take advantage of 2100/2600
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Good price. Any custom brokerage fees?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkw168:
Good place to buy import phones, I have been buying from them for 10+ yrs and without a problem.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyf3:
I got c6602 there, I love it and recommend omegacell.com too anyone looking to get z here in Canada. My wife just got ZL from bell and I think it's ugly. I love my Z.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Hey all I'm looking to buy one I'm in Toronto whay are my options cheapest method if possible don't want to pay customs fee thanks
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BumRush:
Did you have to pay any sort of duties? Which delivery company was used? Canada post?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Purchasing from never msrp on eBay. What am I expecting when the phone comes to my door ? How much fees ?

Price of the phone will be $665 including shipping
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
I got mine from this buyer too a month ago ! I live in Alberta so the import fee wasn't too crazy it was 50 something.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelduy:
It really sucks that LTE band is different in every region..
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forzanerazzurri:
No duty only a 10 dollar brokerage fee from FedEx. If it was any more I would have self cleared it at CBSA as I often do with UPS.

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Canada is one of the most insignificant wireless markets on the planet. I don't blame Sony for ignoring it. People here just buy iPhone's anyway. Horribly boring consumer base.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
I actually think it has been improving. When I ride on subway I always see a variety of different phones! Though iPhone still owns the majority of the market
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forzanerazzurri:
meanwhile the rest of the world has completely moved on. Canadian consumers are notoriously unsophisticated. The fact that we eat up the 3 year contracts is proof.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SGSdabbler:
Took delivery of my XZ Thursday. What an awesome device. Battery not lasting as long as I was hoping ;). I'll have to change my Nic now. Did the software update last night.

Vodacom South Africa.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teknohtc:
I hate these 3 year contracts and these expensive ass plans i would go to Wind or Mobilicity but, they suck and the big 3 have the best service and know that they do and charge you up the ass for their services....:mad:
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cs098:
Canada and america lol
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Got my zzzzz today :)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enzotarece:
I bought my xz from them to and I live in the Caribbean sony should make all there flagship water resistance and set the trend
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teknohtc:
A little birdie at the Sony Store told me that the Z is coming to Canada around August! :D
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
WTF August? Don't even bother with that. Phone will be completely outdated by then.

Doesn't affect me anyway. I've had my Z since Feb. LOL
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
Bringing the Z around August is just pointless. We all know Sony tends to release two high end flagships per year and the second one is after summer usually.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] memo951:
WTF, why not Canada?????
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teknohtc:
Not really, the phone will still have great specs next to the HTC One and SGS4.

-Quad Core chip

-5" 1080p screen

-Very thin (7.9mm)

-2GB of RAM

-13.1 MP Camera

-LTE

One thing that would make it a hot seller is the fact that it is Water/Dust Resistant!

If the Z does come out in August, Back to School wise this would be a hot seller IMHO! :D
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omnius1:
I actually prefer the ZL build. I'd end up skipping the Z anyway since the nexus 5 would only be a few months after an august release

sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
Rumor says that Google is only releasing an updated version of nexus 4.

I tried zl didn't like it so I went for the z lol. You can always flash other countries fw.

There's no point waiting for the z anymore. The down side is that it doesn't have lte. Kinda miss the speed.

And by the time it's August, one Sony will be announced or launched and I'll be switching to that.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omnius1:
That rumor is 99.9% likely false

sent from pure android on tapatalk. carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisMCP:
Not in canada. Sony announces the phablet in June/July - Canada will get it in November or something. One Sony in Q3 - Canadians will get it shipped by the time CES 2014 is over... Lets face it, Sony hates Canada, they don't give a buffalo **** on a nickel about Canada, and that will never change.

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btw are you sure it's not the Tablet he is talking about? Sony said June for the Tablet Z, that means August in Canada.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
I don't even understand why people would bother getting phones through carriers in Canada. I've never used a single phone from carriers, slow updates and locked bootloaders. All phones are bought overseas.

I love Asia.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredastere:
Maybe it will have the new version of the processor in August :)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
No new cpu. Ramu confirmed that. Well at least of what he knows and spec said the same thing.

Sony isn't pulling the same crap as they did with the arc and arc s.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teknohtc:
Nope it's the Z he saw my phone and said that they are getting it in August.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisMCP:
Because I can get it subsidized, and I can exchange it many times if there any imperfections (and I mean ANY), send it back at Rogers' expense. Besides, I can always flash NA firmware on it (most of the time).

Hm, interesting. Phablet will be released in July. Considering it's exactly like the Z, but bigger, I might get it instead, depending on what is here first.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrsanches:
I've talked to a Sony rep these days and I asked why canada didn't get the z, he said it's because most Canadians aren't ready to pay as much as the Z would cost, and somehow he's right, I've seen many people complaining about how expensive iPhone is, even on a three year contract,

I'm not saying Sony its right, but I quite understand why they have done it like they did
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Purehazard:
So who here is using the C6603 in Vancouver? Any luck with LTE?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
I doubt it, I live in richmond and using C6602 getting 12mbps down on fido
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Purehazard:
A buddy told me he was at a store in Aberdeen and they showed him the C6603 with LTE running. Can't remember what the speed test results were but it supposedly worked.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
i heard a bunch of stuff too, but theres no point risking it. Hes either with bell or rogers.

and alot of people here cant get LTE or maybe just a few minutes of LTE and thats it.

you can try confirming with your buddy, if hes constantly on LTE and do a speed test to see if its above 30mbps. LTE 2600 can go up to 100mbps
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Urbanos:
getting some insight here...

after not wanting to bow down and let the Z go... we may be in for some good news - this is conjecture at least a little.

Rogers just launched 2600mhz LTE in hamilton and a few other places this Monday April 22nd: http://redboard.rogers.com/2013/rogers-lte-network-expanding-to-a-market-near-you-this-spring/

the problem with the Z (C6603) not working in Canada is that it doesn't support 1700mhz.

Although Rogers is listed as supported 1700Mhz and 2600Mhz LTE on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

we have to read between the lines a bit to see that Rogers actually means AWS 1700 - which requires 2100 as well.

Rogers 1700mhz LTE is the upload band, and the download band is in the 2100 band. see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Wireless_Services

"The AWS band uses microwave frequencies in two segments: from 1710 to 1755 MHz for uplink, and from 2110 to 2155 MHz for downlink.[1] The service is intended to be used by mobile devices such as wireless phones for mobile data, video, and messaging services. Most manufacturers of smartphone mobile handsets provide versions of their phones that include radios that can communicate using the AWS spectrum. Since for downlink AWS uses a subset of UMTS frequency band I (2100 MHz) some UMTS2100 capable handsets do detect AWS networks but cannot register on them due to the difference in uplink frequencies (1710–1755 MHz for AWS vs. 1920–1980 MHz for UMTS2100).

Device support for AWS is limited, with many high-demand smartphones not supporting the service. This has limited the development of all-AWS carriers due to a limited selection of handsets."

Its confusing because some 'older' lte devices with rogers support AWS - with no mention of 1700/2100 bands... I'm suggesting that for LTE support to work with 2100, it also must work with 1700. which in some cases has been called AWS for rogers in canada.. i could be wrong.

but they have been rolling out 2600mhz in anticipation of the S4 launch coming shortly... the S4 and the XZ C6603 both support the same LTE bands in canada.....

so, for the moment, I'd gather to guess that the Z WILL get support with 2600Mhz (hopefully then we find its not a baseband issue, but a signal issue)... I wish i had a phone to try it here in hamilton to let you know. Cuz i'm ready to buy the phone tomorrow, but i just can't settle without LTE.

the other comparative is the LG optimus G-2600 edition, which Rogers says only supports 700/2600 LTE... and 700 doesn't have the speeds of 2600, yet they show in their video on the page, downloads over 60Mbps

http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...uctId_Detailed=OPTIMUSGWHT&N=52+11+4294925041

so in summary, my hopes are still up that the Xperia Z C6603 will be supported in canada... anybody up for a trip to hamilton, hamilton mountain for the heck of it?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
I do hope that will be the case. I mean I have this phone for couple months and if the lte will be working on this phone in the future I would give this phone 100/100!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisMCP:
C6603 will not work in canada for a long time. Besides, 6606 is all you need. That is what will get released, if at all.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Urbanos:
hey would any of you please consider posting more speedtests in ontario? the one guy in montreal changed his apn details to USA and it tripled his speeds... wondering if any of the ontario folks can replicate it.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Got a link?

Might be in Hamilton this week I'll test.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Urbanos:
here is the link with his speed tests..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39769681&highlight=montreal#post39769681
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Hey he just enabled an option! ive done the same ill be in the downtown core tomorrow and will test hopefully i get LTE
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
the speed test was posted awhile back. could someone with a c6603 tell me the current 3G/H+ speed of the device in canada?

-which carrier

-average download speed

-highest download speed

thanks in advance
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
this is a test i did a while back on HSPA
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
thanks bud, so there is no speed difference between 03/02 on 3G/H+. The only difference is the signal strength. Might as well go for 03 just in case LTE works in the near future.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Definitely go for the 03 model to be safe when LTE kicks in ill be downtown Toronto tomorrow so i will be testing for LTE
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
A minute ago
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisMCP:
TM 6606 out of FCC

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/01/sony-xperia-z-tmo-fcc/

Hope we don't have to wait till August to get it up here with Rogers branding (better than nothing)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Purehazard:
ARGH! It's taking forever for a proper North American LTE model! So long that the talk about the Honami is heating up for a possible launch at IFA 2013 in a few months.

Had the C6606 launched with the 02 and 03, I would have gotten it no question but now the new ones are just around the corner. Again.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisMCP:
The problem for Canadians is that even if the global launch is in a few months - we will get it here by late 2013, like December at best. So overall - we're on track. In Canadian universe time goes slower than the rest of the world. Unfortunately for us - we are fully aware of it... but can't do **** to change it.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charliechocolate:
Might have to start asking when the Honami will come now..
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Imdking:
Vicious circle! Ain't it!

That's why you get what's out RIGHT now, and skip the ones you cant afford. Imports is the way for North Americans. This way, you get it while it's hot!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Urbanos:
Just got the 6603 and on rogers in hamilton on the mountain... no lte :( and really crappy speeds... 1.5mbps up and down. Piss! Is there some setting im missing to get the 7+ mbps you guys are getting?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
Do you get HSPA+ network coverage and full signal bars?

I use the Rogers LTE APN but in network settings LTE is disabled.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Was downtown. Lte enabled but my data was dropping from H to no data assuming it was trying to connect to lte. Anyways here's a speedtest

Loving the speeds
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Urbanos:
I have the rogers lte apn, but if I have the network mode to lte, I get only 1-2mbps... if I switch to the wcdma etc, I get 6-9mbps. Hamilton mountain.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Urbanos:
Fyi for all of you. The sandisk 64GB micro sd class 10 uhs1 card works perfectly and I get about 59GB formatted in the phone. Cheers
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Droid:
Ya i know i have mine working amazing!

I still havent unlocked my bootloader i have no idea why but i think i will do it this weekend and test CM, stock rooted is amazing
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
your location is probably bad for reception :(
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisMCP:
6602 is now on sale in the US. 6606 with LTE will come later, probably exclusive to TM. Now the question is, would Rogers get the HSPA+ version 6602, or the 6606 in summer? I assume it's going to be the 6606, hopefully the same time or not much longer after TB gets theirs.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/05/0...e-at-sony-store-usa-price-drop-for-xperia-zl/