yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Most likely, but i wouldn't say 'no doubt' about it. More cores do not necessarily mean better performance. If i remember correctly, there was a case when dual core Snapdragon surpassed quad-core exynos - can't really remember exact models so i'm not gonna stand behind this. Actually i think we might stop seeing huge performance improvement pretty soon, we're already in a place where it's damn hard to improve anything.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Other Upcoming Phones - Don't start new thr

It must been s4 plus and exynos 4412 (A9) ,krait had the better architecture but situation is different here exynos octa has a quad core (A15) which would alone surpass s4 pro

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Other Upcoming Phones - Don't start new thr

On a lighter note, watch this !!

XPERIA Z KILLER :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urT2ww5LdW4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Other Upcoming Phones - Don't start new thr

I want my second back

:D:D

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
+1 :D!

---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 PM ----------

Exactly! If people don't like it it's not necisarrily a 'deal breaker' as you can just peel it off, but as for me i know even with this film on i will apply a screen protector, that's what it's there for, the whole point is to make the device feel good and new, i mean imagine you had the film on the device for a full year, with no screen protector, and you decided to peel it off, your phone would look brand new and you could easily sell it. It also makes the device shatter proof and that. Can't wait for the xperia Z :D!
[Xperia Z General] :
Moving away to few other 'super' phones in 2013. LG Optimus G Pro and HTC M7 are confirmed to use Snapdragon 600 SoC.

So, in stacking order of things, this is the situation we have so far:

A15 (E5/T4) > S600 > S4 Pro
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Other Upcoming Phones - Don't start new thr

Wat about Google X in May with probably Android 5.0 and internal storage of 128gb !!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Other Upcoming Phones - Don't start new thr

We dont know what soc it will use but if they are partnering with Motorola then battery should be better

128 gb sounds great though

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
The dual-core 5250 already beats the S4 Pro so why wouldn't a Quad/Octa-core version do the same? :eek:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Read my post again :) I think it will be faster, just there already was a case of dual core S4 beating up quad core Exynos, that's all i said.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Other Upcoming Phones - Don't start new thr

In single threaded and GPU benchmarks exynos 5250 is better but in multi threaded cpu benchs , only due to more no of cores s4 pro will perform better, antutu is one of those benchmarks.

I wonder what advantage would exynos octa would hold with this also tegra 4 has a extra low power core too.

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Here is your xperia T review by erica.... shatterproof it seems..lol.its the same specsheet for xperia z too. it even comes with a screenguard out of the box.. so much for shatter proof.. bravia sucks too.. bye sony..
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
It made me worried as well so i asked Sony Centre and did some research myself. I think that people misunderstand this a little bit...

What Erica did was scratch the shatterproof film, and then compare it to Gorilla Glass, which is a bit pointless. If you applied a screen protector on S3 - as was done on Xperia by Sony - it would scratch exactly the same. She didn't show if the glass itself is or isn't scratch resistant on Xperia - as she should have done. Would be nice to check that before flaming on Sony, because they say the glass itself is as scratch-resistant as Gorilla Glass. The glass, not the screen protector applied on it. So unless somebody will remove the screen protector and then try scratching the screen itself - we can't really say anything about the glass they used.

Another thing is... shatterproof film doesn't make the phone shatterproof... it has little to do with protecting your screen. Its main purpose is to hold pieces of broken screen together - should it break at any given time. Removing it does not lower phone's resistance to shattering. If it falls out of your hands it will hold as long as strong the glass is - with or without the protecor. If it breaks - it breaks, the film will only keep the pieces together so that they won't hurt your fingers and might prevent damaging the display by holding chunks of broken glass together. It's exactly the same with your car's windshield - most of them have such film glued on - so that if it breaks, it won't go berserk on you with pieces of broken glass - but the film itself has little to do with windshield's strenght and resistance.

This shatterproof film is not an integral part of the display... removing it does not void your warranty, as some people suggested. It's just a screen protector glued to your display by default. If it wears out - you remove it and apply another one - either scratch resistant or another shatterproof one, apply both at once or leave it without any protection if you want.

I really don't understand why people freak out about a screen protector installed by default... if the glass itself is not scratch resistant at all - then we'll have a reason to freak out, but that has to be tested on Xperia Z - this has also been the case with Xperia Play for example, and lots of people peeled it off after a while, keeping the screen "naked" and claiming it's as scratch resistant as any gorilla glass phone.

EDIT: Erica checked the glass itself, without the protector on, and it seems it actually is scratch resistant, just as gorilla glass. Video will be uploaded shortly.
[Xperia Z General] :
The Tegra 4 'companion' core is different from big.LITTLE concept. That companion core is just another A15 core clocked lower at around 500-700Mhz. The LITTLE core in Exynos is a A7 core. The A7 core is an advancement of the A8 core (used in Hummingbird SoC in first Galaxy S). ARM says A7 has double the performance compared to A8 with lower power. Needless to say A7 is much more power efficient compared to A15.

2nd difference (IMO) is memory architecture. nvidia is notorious for bad memory designs. T3 had a single channel memory controller. This time it's dual channel, but not sure of the memory bandwidth. Exynos from now it's all 12.8GB/s minimum. Apple AX is awesome in terms of memory bandwidth.
[Xperia Z General] SmallsXD:
"So much for shatter proof"? its glass!! My optimus 2x suffered a broken digitizer. It was still usable but I could obviously feel the cracks and had to be extra careful until i got it fix. I am sure the glass is tough but this extra layer is to protect you incase of damage. Removing it does not weaken the glass.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
ok, and?
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
PowerVR is far greater than Mali!!!!!! They're the legend in mobile phone GPU processing!

PowerVR already existed in my nokia n95 and at that time where's mali and adreno?

Anyways whatever it is sorry I'm no samsung fanboy still getting the Xperia Z :) qualcomm FTW!!
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
wait what? is that confirmed? I thought S600 wont be out until H2?
[Xperia Z General] Unexist6969:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

An a15 core will eat krait ;p but samsung has a sh*t attitude imo
[Xperia Z General] -]Megacharge[-:
Not on the Z or ZL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Tz95i-HSE
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Forget about videos n comments, if you are looking at Xperia Z screen straight, its one of the best screens available !!

My only worry is SCREEN TRANSITION is still not as smooth as expected from 2013 device, my Note 2 is much much better than XZ while scrolling through home screens !!!

Played with demo set of XZ*

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] #illidan:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Your right. S600 would probably show up in devices in Q2 & the S800 in Q3

SwiftKey'ed from my PAC'ed GT - I9100 powered by Dorimanx

PHONE : SGSII

Primary ROM: PAC ROM V18

Secondary ROM: -

KERNEL : Dorimanx 7.45 (modified settings)

MODEM : LPS

BATTERY : Stock 1650mAh

EXTERNAL Sdcard : SanDisk Class 4 8 GB
[Xperia Z General] nk7600:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah, thats what I have noticed watching vids on youtube. There seems to be a fair bit of lag moving left/right compared to other high end devices :banghead:
[Xperia Z General] :
translated

1.7Ghz Quad Core (Snapdragon 600)

It's also been the 'rumored' since a long time that the M7 will use the exact same SoC.

BTW, S600 is customer sampling now and devices will start coming in Q2. From what we see Optimus G Pro or M7 will probably start selling around March-April which is close enough for Q2 period.

AFAIK, S600 is not a radical change from S4 Pro. Most of the performance gain comes from increase in clock speed rather than architecture change. It's also using same Adreno 320 GPU, again clocked higher. It's more of a stop-gap arrangement till S800 comes to scene.
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
[YOUTUBE]ZLMxehR3pP8[/YOUTUBE]

xperia z vs lumia
[Xperia Z General] :
Check this link:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/7/3965302/xperia-z-in-my-pocket-ask-me-anything-about-it
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Hi guys,

What you guys thinking, are you gonna quickly buy Xperia Z or planning to wait for the official announcement of Samsung Galaxy S4 (revealing on Mar 15th) or other phones!!

EDIT

:

The only problem I can see on XZ is that the screen transition is NOT as smooth as some top notch devices like latest Galaxy Note 2 or Galaxy S3 or Nexus 4. This is NOT acceptable from 2013 device

Updates

:

Xperia Z releading from Feb 9th in Japan.

Xperia Z releasing from Mar 1st world wide.

Galaxy S4 will be revealed on Mar 15th.

Share your views guys !!
[Xperia Z General] :
Always good to wait and check the reviews/comments before pulling the trigger. Within next 3 months you will have Optimus G pro, M7 and SG4. You will have a good idea by then what works best for you, rather than having a buyer's remorse later. I personally always want to avoid the initial batch. They are always most buggy.

My personal view is that any

flagship

phone in 2013 should have a powerful GPU simply because of the FHD resolution they are driving. It's possible that a HD display will be smoother compared to a FHD display if the GPU is constrained.

My 0.02
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Was curious about that too but Ambroos owns the final device and he says it runs perfectly smooth so maybe we have nothing to worry about.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Hope so, anyways I have decided to wait till March end, let the price of Xperia Z settle down.

Meanwhile we will have clear picture of S4 too, on Mar 15th.

M not interested in HTC, LG, etc.

POLL added !!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] -]Megacharge[-:
Xperia ZL for me ASAP. My SGS II screen broke so I'm using my old crappy POS iPhone 3G now, meh... Besides, I've grown tired of Samsung phones and touchwiz after having the original Galaxy S and S II. It's time for me to move on to Sony and give them a try.
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
Screenshot:

How come the S4 Pro is so incredibly bad at Javascript? He's getting around 1800ms on a faster phone than the SG3, yet I'm scoring way better at 1130ms on the Stock browser and closer to 900ms on Chrome Beta. Kraken at 22000 vs mine at 14400. What is up with that? DO the scores improve once you put CM+AOSP browser on it, or is the phone just plain slow? :eek:
[Xperia Z General] :
Javascript optimization. Chrome was never known to have good benchmark. I think he will get better results from Chrome Beta. Samsung native /AOSP browser always had good javascript performance.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
^

The javascript scores are due to Chrome. He has mentioned he used Chrome and not Chrome BETA. I get 2500ms score when using chrome on my S and 1600ms when using stock browser. The Xperia V gets 1100ms with stock browser.

So it's due to the browser and not the CPU
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
Even when running Chrome I get better scores so it can't just be about application optimization. The Nexus 4 also does worse than the S3, even when running the aosp browser so my guess is that the S4 Pro just isn't that great at JavaScript. :(
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
The Nexus 4 has thermal headroom issues: It overheats and has to throttle down. With any luck the XZ/XZL will be better engineered.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

http://www.idboox.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Samsung-Galaxy-S4-photo-Google-plus-IDBOOX.jpg

(gs4)Camera specs :confused: or fake:confused:

Xperia z has f/2.4 aperture and this is f/2.2 any noticeable difference?

sent fromXperia sT21i
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Hmmmmm. Samsung users with sole intention of derailing a healthy discussion seem to spending more time here in the Z thread than their own device forums :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Hehe..

By the way I am confused guys, I have used XZ for a while at Sony store n the home screen transition is still laggy, its not as smooth as some top notch devices like Note2/S3/Nexus 4..

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

What did I do?:confused:

And if I had to get this thread derailed then I would troll and get this thread closed :D

We are having a discussion here if someone points out something then he is not derailing he is discussion

And this phone is great thats why we are comparing it with phones that aren't out .

sent fromXperia sT21i
[Xperia Z General] :
You know it's a good phone when people from other forums come here to discuss. It's good to have debate. let me tell you if other samsung/LG/HTC users were not interested, you would feel sad.

BTW, you will find same in M7, Optimus G Pro and all other flagship forums. Don;t even bother about GS4 forum - there will be countless threads telling why GS4 is a fail :)
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Slight lag is visible in this video too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3XjdJgFz7Q
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
The XZ user on The Verge got 1300ms with Chrome Beta which does not bode well..
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Actually Samsung users like me are here coz we're fed up of Samsung's BS.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Hmmmmmm. I guess us Sony users should also join GS4 forum and do the same hahaha :D
[Xperia Z General] :
I will start a thread titled "GS4 vs all flagship phones - - Don't start new threads". I think there is already a thread running for M7
[Xperia Z General] schrickm5:
I am here because I will either buy the Z or wait for the S600/800 - it all depends on the X Reviews and how it compares to the GS4 (which I will not be buying), and of course the design/hware specs of the coming Sony phones, though I don't want to be that guy that keeps waiting for something good around the next corner.....

I was a little disappointed in the design of the GS3 but purchased it anyway because of the hardware, now companies are overtaking these specs regularly and the gap between the top handsets is narrowing.

This means I can now get something that actually emotionally appeals to me when I see it ...as opposed to just tolerating its form a la my GS3.

Hurray for Sony, specifically its design.
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Chill guys, I was just kidding. And also I meant it for a few guys who were trying to defend Samsung and bash Sony. LOL
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
What are u like 10 years old? Any flagship smartphones draws interest from everyone, dont be surprise if theres more traffic on th SGS IV forum once its created. Of course anybody that comes here have some interest in this phone, thats why we're here.

---------- Post added at 11:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:25 AM ----------

Speak for yourself. Im here cause im interested in this phone, i dont have a "loyalty" to one brand, just wanna see what i prefer. Right now Samsung is preferred choice but who knows what other OEMs might bring this year.
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I kinda am speaking for myself. I said we coz if you open S2 forum, its full of rage against Samsung. Anyways forget it.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol another rumor of galaxy s4 with gestures

Would be cool if they work perfectly

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/51152bceeab8ea1832000004-650-437/gestures.jpeg

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
Iphone 5 vs Xperia Z

Comparison of the devices provided by Stuff Tv.

http://www.stuff.tv/news/phone/versus/sony-xperia-z-vs-apple-iphone-5
[Xperia Z General] :
Interesting. I did some quick google searches. Found that they actually applied for a patent in 2012:

http://www.google.com/patents/US20120268373

They have filed for 'Air Gesture' trademark in EU: http://pocketnow.com/2012/12/07/samsung-air-gesture

They also did a few more trademark registrations recently - Eye pause, Eye Scroll recently:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-trademarks-eye-scroll-and-eye-pause-are-they-smart-stay-2-0/

Samsung has this habit of introducing few cool gimmicks. Sometimes they become a major hit - like Multi-Window.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
How can you say this? your acting as if there is going to be a significant difference between the S4 & Xperia Z, in whole they will have the same specs?

1080p camera

2GB ram

16GB memory

13MP camera

The only real difference would be the processors that they use, which in an everyday instance you wouldn't notice anyway, i mean the galaxy s2 with the leaked jelly bean firmware has a 1.2Ghz Dual core & 1GB ram and runs amazingly fast, and thats a 2011 device. We all know that the snapdraggon destroyed the eynos quad processors, so lets not kid ourselfs and be fooled by this "8 octa core" propaganda bs. Not to mention the fact that samsung are the most anti-dev manufacturer there is out there, at least sony works with devs to deliver the best aokp and open source roms possible. Also samsung is it's own enemy when it comes to making phones i mean they give it amazing specs and hinder it with tons of bloatware apps and processors which in the end, consume tons of system resources, for what? direct call? smart stay? things which can all be made and optimized by ANYONE. Before anyone calls me a sony fanboy, i own a galaxy s2 and note 2 and am sick to death of them, i need the xperia Z, its a calling.
[Xperia Z General] batna.antab:
Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

The octa doesn't have a mali 400 wich is too old and weak, instead it will have a powervr sgx 544mp3 clocked @ 533mhz, and the CPU is not based on a15, but just half of it as the 4cores are a7 and the other 4 a15.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

4 A15 cores clocked at 1.8 ghz(around) and 4 A7 at 1.2ghz all 8 cores could be used at a time performance should be par of s4 pro

though.But battery life should depend on how they manage it but theoretically it should be be better.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

The main thing is going to be battery life and optimization. I'm pretty sure the S4 will have better battery life than the xperia Z and will be more fluid. Samsung excels in those 2 categories compared to other android phones.
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
Me too man....time to go.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Count me as well, after Xperia S tried S3 and Note 2, now time to change S3 to Xperia Z !!
[Xperia Z General] Warhero141:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Sorry but the 4 A15's on its own should destroy the snapdragon s4 pro from the first gen kraits.
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
You know I like sams. But what they do with development supporting is totally fail. (Galaxy note 2)

And I think we need to all step back from Samsung to show them our priority.

Sams will be always first by hardware, and its nothing to talk about it. But they forgot about us.

Galaxy note 2 aosp support is ridiculous, stupid sams forgot about people like me who bought the phone just because aosp supporting!!! I hate touchwith agly interface. And I hate sony interface also., but Im sure I will see on Z same quality Aosp base, like on Nexus. Thats why im moving.

Regards.
[Xperia Z General] arifkpi:
I am not sure why people are talking about S4 will have 8 core unless in Core i7 has not 8 core :D

You don't need 8 core processor unless you able to use it :laugh:

Its look like you have a Ferrari car but don't have a proper road to ride it on Top Speed (Maybe you should try to ride it on the Air) :D
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Yes a quad A15 would "destroy" s4 pro but then it would suck all the battery too so there is a A7 quad which would save battery
[Xperia Z General] Team hammer:
my woman is buying me the z the day it comes out, then i can dump my s3 because its the worst fone ive had and the most over rated, im looking a phone that feels like a fone in my hand and not sum cheap dirt feeling fone like the s3. the sony fone looks like the works and ive never been so excited about a fone in my whole life. i just pray that there will be good roms for it because ive been looking at the sony roms and there aint that many. SO BRING ON THE GREATNESS .............SONY Z:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Xperia Z General] armanderli:
I've seen countless times, people complaining about the over saturation of Amoled displays! Am I really the only person who likes that over saturation and vivid colours.....I just can't stand LCD and natural wash out colours....I wish I had punchy colour like this in life ( at least that my eyes was showing me life like on an Amoled screen; but no...). Therefore, I will never use a non Amoled screen; if Samsung is the only manufacturer who makes screen with Amoled, I will always buy Samsung....Samsung S4 for me then...