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[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I even showed u proof dude... and noo the s3 is faster.. cm on that s3 didnt have bloat and thats why it was faster.. no one says the galaxy nexus is faster..they say s3 stutters more during animations because it isnt pure google and its bloated and its software isnt that optimized with a hell lot of bloatware on it unlike the galaxy nexus which is pure google..

.. s3 is powerfull than a galaxy nexus but not smooth in transitions... a half working alpha cm in s3 did well in that video compared to a working jellybean in a galaxy nexus..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] :
I am sorry, but this might become repetitive/boring for others. I can't agree with your statement. I feel companies should be focusing on every aspect of a smartphone, and not just battery-life.

Please tell me what has number of cores got to do with battery life? Note 2 with 'quad' cores have awesome battery life. And GNex with a 'dual' core have a much worse battery life. Moto also uses same multicore processors like everyone else. Again, more cores doesn't mean less battery life (it also doesn't mean more battery life). Please forget the core-problem :p

I will tell you right now that Samsung marketing/branding team has done an absolutely smashing job. We people who are somewhat knowledgeable fighting over 'octa' core branding. Just imagine what it would mean for normal folks when the GS4 is launched. It would virtually kill everything else in the market. I tell you Samsung marketing team will use this and milk this name to make billions. That is exactly what they want. They have already created a monster by the name of octa. I am talking in terms of brand awareness. Just did a Google search for last month for "octa". The third entry talks about Exynos SoC. This is what's happening, and Samsung is already successful in their campaign.

BTW, the extra 4 cores which makes it a octa-core is exactly for the purpose of battery life. And I want 4K display right now in my phone :D
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
If ur talking about sales then samsung will even sell more if they come out with dual cores now...They have paid attention and a lot of money to their marketing and thats why they are at the top of android now. But lets just focus on the new champion XZ now..shall we ? :)

only if Sony can market this right.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Is Xperia Z really that Premium???

Its back still feels plasticky, it doesnt look as premium as iPhones while holding in hand !!

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[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Someone with a Note 2 calling a phone plasticky :P ?

I think the Xperia Z feels extremely solid (and because of that premium). And no matter what angle you view it from, the simple reflective surfaces make it look very special. It has no Apple on the back but it certainly looks very premium, even more so because of the size and thinness.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah bro, actually with glass back I thought XZ will feel iphone 4s !! But its not the case :confused:

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[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Oh my god, that's alot! You should cut down on some apps xD!

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You call that 'proof'? i call that an old video of an alpha cyanogem mod on the galaxy s3, and there is nothing to say that it's 'faster' than the galaxy nexus. Bloatfree or not the galaxy nexus is a better performer, when most people talk about the s3 vs other phones they talk about stock, i mean samboys never fail to include multi window or smart stay, but now it's all about cm? The s3 along with the note 2 doesn't even perform on par with the galaxy nexus on cm due to lacking sources that samsung are adamant on not providing, so i don't know what your saying ;)

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If you think the xperia Z's back isn't as premium as the iphone then you my friend have issues ;)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Have u really handled Xperia Z???

Its seriously not as classy as shown in videos :)

Try to tap the back of the phone, its not glass..it will sound like plastic !!

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[Xperia Z General] #illidan:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Expanded desktop mode. Although it won't be included in the stock ROM like how it is in custom ROM's, I'm sure some enterprising developer will be able to include that feature.

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Primary ROM: PAC ROM V18

Secondary ROM: -

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MODEM : LPS

BATTERY : Stock 1650mAh

EXTERNAL Sdcard : SanDisk Class 4 8 GB
[Xperia Z General] windozeanti:
There are only two choices. It is either a Nexus or Sony Xperia. Since I can't get a Nexus in my country, I am going to buy a Sony Xperia Z.
[Xperia Z General] nasty159:
Stop being stupid. If you tap the back of a "glass" iPhone it sounds like plastic too.

Stop hating.
[Xperia Z General] mattman83:
Same. I'm one of the lucky ones that actually can buy a nexus, but the Xperia is still better IMO. Rom development should be comparable in quality, though I still expect the nexus to be a little bit faster with getting new android versions available (talking AOSP on both phones of course).

Bigger screen, memory expansion and waterproofing sell the sony for me.

M.
[Xperia Z General] sachinaik:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yet another Ultimate insult for us S3 users:

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The Galaxy grand has all features that an S3 has and has bigger screen than s3.

Only thing is it has lower resolution. That's all.. all other premium features like 8mp cam, full hd recording, multi window, big battery, hd playback, front cam, android 4.1.2, everything is there in Grand.

So a 20k phone would look same as a 40k phone. Only a detailed eye can find the difference.

This is outrageous move by Samsung and the brand value of topdog S3 is no more. Its a shame.

People would look at my phone and say "its a Grand" "or phone has nothing special compared to Grand n u paid 20k extra"

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This only makes my decision to buy XZ stronger.
[Xperia Z General] force70:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Why would u care what other people think dude? Especially about the model of phone you have...im sure its not a hot topic....ur post made me LOL so thanks for that :)

I rarely make these types of remarks but seriously bro...thats just ridiculous.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Stop using adjectives n speak in a polite way, i can throw a hell lot of adjectives on you..if you want to reply, reply properly !!

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[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
Didnt i mention android? Wasnt comparing it to others OS..And lol..even iphone 4 glass sounds like plastic when you knock at it from behind..A glass will only sound like a glass if it isnt placed against a surface oris hollow.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

How does "that" make xperia z better

for you,I mean you can say it has better camera,processor etc:D

But that is ...:D

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[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Hmmm..agree, m very defensive this time. Want to make sure I get a good device. After Xperia S I switched too many devices :mad:

Want to keep XZ for atleast a year ;)

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[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
I suggest you wait until July then :)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

All 4 flagships will be out by May-June I think and those are LG optimus G,Xperia Z,Galaxy s4,M7.

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[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Don't forget Iphone 6 :good:
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I don't know if I will use an ifone unless they put android on that.

:p

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[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Dude get out of your little world, I know at least 10 android users who use android coz they can use it like super phones. Hell I don't even play games. Octa core isn't a gimmick, its basically for saving battery life n said to be 70% efficient than any other quad core. If your way of taking a phone is that it can take any app then you're just like an iPhone user(Indian) but with android.

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S4 will be Fugly. Samsung's pattern > GS1 - Okay > GS2 - Yuck > GS3 - Ugly > GS4??
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Can iOS at least browse its own files or handle a .zip file ? Not trolling, and not really a fan of Android ( i really don't like the interface that much, would love to use Windows Phone but its even more limited than iOS ) but if an OS can't do simple things like that - even 16 cores wouldn't really make it interesting for me adding to whole specs-war discussion here. More specs, more cores is a good thing - but if devs focus only on that and software lacks support/fluidity - it's wasted potential. And no, i'm not a "power user" - i just don't like upgrading my phone to one that lacks features my 10 years old Nokia has - especially not for a premium price like that. If i'm going to pay for a premium device, with premium specs - I at least expect it to do premium things. With Xperia at least we get waterproofing, stunning design ( i would wait for S4 but i hate Samsung's designs - especially this new pebblish trend, and touchwiz is a horror to me ), Exmor sensor, and lots of Sony goodies - and it's still cheaper than iPhone.
[Xperia Z General] :
Dude, seriously?

{insert your favourite SMH GIF here}
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

How can I undo thanks?

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[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Guys, lets not discuss iOS here..

I hope everywhere here interested only in Androids !! :)

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[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Right lets keep this thread on topic:rolleyes:

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[Xperia Z General] :
You can't :cool:

http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/introducing-the-thanks-button-on-xda/
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Ok^^:(

Here is a comparison of A15 core and Krait core(used in xperia Z)

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[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Thanked me by mistake? Lol I'll return.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I was just asking in general I thanked you because you said something that I agree upon :D not because of something I don't ....

We are just having a discussion here.

;) :beer:

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[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Which is the krait? Blue and red is all I see....
[Xperia Z General] -]Megacharge[-:
Krait is on the left, seriously though in my opinion the performance of S4 Pro is more than enough for things right now, I know whats coming and I don't really care because I know S4 Pro is more than enough not just for my needs, but for the realistic needs of about 95% of the worlds population. The Xperia ZL and Z are smart purchases that will make excellent phones for the next couple years.
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

IMHO. Z will be more future proof. After a year. Official updates stop coming. Z will have a fully working CM n other aosp ROMs as Snapdragon S4 is open source. Exynos might have more power but it'll be buggy n fkd up. A year ago, S2>Gnex (ICS) coz of hardware, now with JB. Gnex>S2.

Edit : By s2 I refer I9100 the exynos model not I9100G
[Xperia Z General] sachinaik:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Very well said about gnex.
[Xperia Z General] vittogn:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Am I the only one that thinks that this beauty is perfect but for the battery? I hope so but I'm pretty sure it will not go beyond 3h screen plus 13h on. Stamina mode is only a clever workaround, I want all my push staff always on!

LG Optimus G Pro is perfect hw but it'll have locked bl and no dev support.

Let's hope for Motogoogle X phone!
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
Fot me the Z is the perfect phone ever. I loved the xperia s but it was laggy/slow at times, the battery life was dreadful for my usage, and the loudness in heaphones wasnt really all that and that was the only problems I had with it.

With the Z these things have been fixed well battery should be much better as better cpu and much bigger battery and audio was my main concern and i am more than happy with it. Plus I can take pics/record videos when I am in phone calls and watch videos when I am in phone calls. Only HTC match this but HTCs audio in video recording is a bit too sharp, video is too zoomed in aswell and battery life aswell on HTC is not the greatest
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
I hate Moto's builds. Kevlar stuff might be strong but doesn't look pleasing to my eyes. Xperia Z is perfect ATM. I already use an app that turns off Wifi or Data when phone's sleeping, i've added some app exceptions and trust me, it saves battery without eating any functionality. Moto has shut down business in my country :(. Why isn't Google launching a nexus with Android 5.0 :/
[Xperia Z General] roobeyn:
8core

The quattro core is nothing special, you will only be able to use 4cores at the same time, switching between them becuase of powersaving/performance, the same ***t as underclocking your quad core or letting it run normally... No improvment in terms of cores but maybe it will run at higher clocked speeds like 2ghz, no idea

4cores for performance

4cores when you need to save battery

You manually switch between them and i dont think it is worth to be called 8core, you get exactly the same results as underclocking your device
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
Xperia Z full review

A full review of the Xperia Z from UnleashThePhones:

http://unleashthephones.com/2013/02...Phones+-+Mobile+Phone+News,+Reviews+and+More)
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
it's not about using 8 cores at a time, what you said has been mentioned at least 50 times in this thread before. You can't say that i5 quad core n i7 quad core will perform equally if clocked at same frequencies. Come on.
[Xperia Z General] roobeyn:
The thing is, first Im sorry for not reading previous comments, second the thing is the reason im disappointed is that they will use the word quattro core the whole time marketing while it isn't anything special about having those 4extra cores, i don't mean that the processors will perform the same, its only that they make something useless so that they can talk about it, market it and so on ;)
[Xperia Z General] sswagonman:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Have a note 2 ATM but considering swapping to the xperia z. Anyone else doing the same and what's your reasoning? So torn between the two
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
If you don't need the larger screen or the S-Pen, and want a proper version of CM then yeah it's worth it.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Those extra 4 cores are not useless, if they had put a A15 quad then battery would be ****y ,those "extra 4 cores" are for saving battery.

Though it has been usefull for their marketing propaganda too ,"octa processor" is itself misleading it is not a 8 core processor ,but 2 quad cores with each different in performance,etc.

So it is clearly misleading marketing but without those 4 cores "low power ones" you won't get any battery in your phone with 4 A15 s sucking everything,even if it performed like a beast.
[Xperia Z General] sswagonman:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I have heard a rumour its clocked at 1.7? Is that right?
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
Octa cores is not misleading as the SoC has 8 cores; just because they are not used simultaneously, does not mean that they are not there.

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Should be 1.5Ghz, the new LG Optimus G Pro is clocked at 1.7Ghz.
[Xperia Z General] sswagonman:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Not really like it matters I suppose as overclocking will b available if needed or wanted. Looks like a nice job by sony
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Yes i have, and i know, its tempered glass, if feels smooth and has a unique design. Its funny coz the galaxy note 2 is a plastic piece of sh!t! Better just wait for the note 3, that sounds like a better phone for you ;).
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

It is misleading "somewhat" I mean I have seen like dozens of people telling me that Samsung has released a processor with 8 cores which would be clocked at 2ghz .

You are right that it has 8 cores so it shouldn't be misleading but all 8 cores aren't same ,I don't know if Samsung misled them about big.LITTLE or they haven't understood it properly and thus mislead on their own:confused:.

We still don't know if Samsung octa can use all 8 cores at once.

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S4 pro used in Xperia Z is clocked at 1.5 GHz

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[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Hmm, so for certain korean brand it's acceptable to use flimsy plastic and there's nothing wrong with it, build quality is great and solid. But for Xperia it's suddenly a bad thing because it "has a plastic feel if you tap the back", even though it's actually tempered glass or some other things... noticed it's a trend here lately - lets point out bad things about A, but keep silent or even praise those same things about B...

For me the only deal breaker would be battery life. If it won't last 48 hours of normal use ( as a phone, not as a smartphone ) then i might reconsider my pre-order. On CES videos they shown estimated time 2-5 days with stamina mode on - using the phone just for texts, maybe some music etc. - hope it will live up to it.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Dare you speak against B you are declared troll:D

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[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Or if you praise B you're called a mindless fanboy instead :D I love competition, new devices etc, but with all those OS / brand wars, i really miss the "just pick whichever you like" attitude and not the "must have the best and winning specs - always". It takes the fun out of our devices as we're never really satisfied this way - at least not for long before the next flagship comes out and people declare everything before it sh..t and useless c... ;)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

:DHaha yea ,everyone thinks too much nowdays ....

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[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
It's not about specs, it's about overall package. For eg Samsung's stock firmwares are totally fkd up. They use gingerbread memory allocation hacks in jelly bean, I don't even need to stress how fkd up this is. (and Entropy512 said that, not me). What will specs do when you don't have a nice firmware to use. Stock sucks, CM won't be properly developed.
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Fanboy troll..lol.. If you want ti buy a phone ..dont listen to him, just heed the advices of other people on here..or wait

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
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[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Okay, let's take it to another level, Sudden death cases? S2 n S3 both have had em, thousands if S3's just died out of nowhere. Exynos mem security loophole? Where anyone could gain root access even on unrooted phones.
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Sorry for the double post.. tapatalk -.-.. what I was saying that if samsung ran the same software as nexus does , it would do better as shown in the video.. and if you want to talk about stock.. the last generation sony phones lagged as hell.. so the nexus devices can easily beat others if you compare it that way.. and samsung stock features can easily beat sonys any day...period..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Do they ? Never knew that. For me stock rom on Note 2 works great, i have no issues with it at all, but i don't consider myself a power user and i don't stress out my device as many people here do - but i really don't like TouchWiz ( it's a bit shallow but i really care about how the UI actually looks... ) so it's still a big harsh no from me. Also i noticed that CM10/10.1 really doesn't work as good on Note1/2 as they do on other devices - wouldn't doubt what Entropy said, he knows 100 times more about those things than I do :)

Note 2 is also affected by sudden death issue. Note 1 had similar brickbug problem with emmc secure format command bricking the phone ( restoring factory setting ) - which to this day hasn't been fixed by Samsung.
[Xperia Z General] brizzle7:
These are the sorts of reviews to pay attention to. Not all positive though.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

You know s3 and s2 sold in huge amounts and when something sells in huge amounts there are more chances of problems occurring there ,for example look at iPhone 5 it sold in huge amounts and there were so many problems with thousands of units ,but faulty units were changed.

Same is happening here those phones which are dying with sds are being replaced by Samsung ,you can ask in the forums,if something is faulty they are replacing it with new one so what's the problem? Faulty units can occur.

People are still suffering with sds but I am not the one.

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