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[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Guys who own Samsung devices, now that S4 will also use Qualcomm chip are you still Interested in Xperia Z ? Considering how for the S4 u won't have to depend on Samsung to release Exynos code ?
[Xperia Z General] Jubei1:
S600 draws less power than APQ8064 actually. And the upcoming S800 will draw even less power (Adreno 330 will draw half as much as 320)

Its not as simple as "more GHz = more power draw" you also need to take into account that racing to idle is a major factor in power draw

And these "i dont want more performance so nobody else should want it either" arguments are becoming kind of annoying

You dont need S600, awesome, who is forcing you to buy a phone with one, you can buy Xperia V/T and it should have plenty of performance for your needs. Its as absurd as saying that because an i3 laptop is powerful enough for day to day tasks then nobody should want a desktop or gaming laptop.
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
If the US Galaxy S4 uses Snapdragon what's the chances it will use the 800 series?
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Now, just fix up the build quality, horrible over saturation and I'm onboard....

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Zero. S800 will hit second half of 2013.
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
Which is pretty close to US official launch dates (If last year is anything to go by).
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
Read my post again please. And i didn't say "i dont want more performance so nobody else should want it either" so dont put words into my mouth mate
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I still think international version will use exynos

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[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
US launch is around May end according to reports. S800 won't be available so early. It will be available only in Q3.

@i9100g user

Keep "thinking" :D. Though I think you should pray that all S4 do indeed use S600 as then the development scene for the S4 will be much better due to Qualcomm chip and more developers will be interested in developing for it. If it uses Exynos (now seems very less likely) development scene will be not great.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I don't feel "source" problem would be a deal breaker for me , so I don't need to "pray" for that.

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[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
(Hence July / Q2) - http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/2013/01/07/snapdragon-800-series-and-600-processors-unveiled

And I said "If last year is anything to go by" not current rumors and reports...
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

At least verizon one is using s600 (leaked benchmarks show that)

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[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
@Bjray

I would say don't be too optimistic. Samsung has a history of giving USA the "worse" config not better than Intl market. LOL :D
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
So true... So sad... :(

Wait are you implying that the S800 is better the the Exynos 5 Octa? (I'm in no way saying that it's not & not trying to start a SoC war)
[Xperia Z General] knightrazor:
I'll wait for the Sony "Togari" because I love bigger display. Currently using the Note N7000.
[Xperia Z General] manish.t92:
Samsung galaxy S4 is launched with amazing features which is not came in any mobile device at present, Sony have only one different features such as: Water Resistant & Dust Resistant according to me.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Snapdragons might not be the absolute fastest CPU's out there for everything, but they perform better than the competition for Java and other VM-based code and they're more efficient.

The Exynos might be theoretically faster, but I got the choice I'd go with the S4 Pro or the Snapdragon 600 over the Exynos 5 'Octa' any day.

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What 'amazing features'?
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
I'd love one of those too, but given that it is not by any means certain that such a model will ever even exist, you might want to have a back-up plan. :)
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
I don't so that he needs a back up plan. Sony phablet does exist and it features Snapdragon 800 chipset. :)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Possible s4 case

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?lc=ISk...0MvRts4ABm2Y-0URmv4P_H9hUnT8e4o2j1ORPFs&gl=GB

Btw could be fake

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
Why the hell do we care about a possible (fake) case for a phone that does not even exist and it's not even a Sony?
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

How do you know that?

If it truly is real, then I'm not getting the Z !
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
Source, please.
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
I'm sure you have read about me earlier? Randomuser from Esato forums? :p If not, Google randomuser sony xperia. Or randomuser xperia odin yuga. I leaked the Z way back last in June last year with complete specs on Esato.

So you CAN definitely trust me when I say the Sony phablet is real and uses S800. :)
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
We can trust you, can we? So far as I'm aware, all we have on the Togari are a photo of a large screen which might or might not be intended for a Sony phone or tablet, some alleged leaked specs of which at least some sound highly dubious (3GB of RAM?) and an unknown Sony model number showing up on the HTML5 benchmark website. That's not a lot to go on.
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
Thread name: Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4

Mods also state: Don't start new threads

Umm...... :o
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
Good to know, care to upload a pic of your Samsung employee card?
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
Is a vs topic for comparing phones, especially specs! Not to show accessories and some possible fake ones!

That must go to the Samsung or General section don't you think?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

But not before Q3 right???

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Oh, I heard about you recently on phonearena or some site. They said you are a highly reliable source! Randomuser,yes, but I didn't think you'd mash up the names and be on xda! Well then,Sony will get my money later this year...:D:D:D

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According to Qualcomm, devices with S800 will hit after June, so yes, not before Q3.
[Xperia Z General] #illidan:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

If you are right then I'm going to pass on the Z & get me some Sony phablet goodness :D

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[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
Despite what I said earlier, if you really do have some information that you haven't yet shared, now would probably be a good time to share it. If you can tell us a bit about how you came to know what you supposedly know, that would also be interesting.
[Xperia Z General] Codrea:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Haha just buy the xz, if the sony phablet come out buy it :D
[Xperia Z General] :
And what does you have to prove that point? What does Snapdragons have to be better in terms of "Java and other VM-based code" ? AFAIK, I haven't seen any study specific to this, yet.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
CF-bench does a benchmark in native and Java code. While in native the Snapdragons are more or less equal with ARM's reference designs (Exynos/Tegra) they absolutely soar past the competition in Java performance.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Just found this picture, want to share :)

HOW HTC CAME UP WITH SUCH A DESIGN

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

On another subject ,killzone : shadow fall for ps4 looks amazing!
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Funny post lol but I have to be fair and say the design actually comes mainly from the wp 8x
[Xperia Z General] alankstiyo:
totally agree with you.

I´m still wondering, buy the xperia z (not sure from where I´m in the US (any advice is welcome just via pm) ) or wait for the s4, the battle will be interesting and this way I can sell my freaking iphone which I regret buying XD
[Xperia Z General] Codrea:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Haha it's part of htc's deal with apple. Nokia and sony must sue htc :D
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Phablet is coming in Q3, but not end Q3. ;)

Very early Q3 :D
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
hahahaha
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
It will not come before July-Aug, still long time !!!
[Xperia Z General] jianlinooi:
hopefully the phablet is the 1st to use s800 and release it worldwide fast...in july...haha
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

+1
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lmao!
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
If I could count on that being true, I'd probably order a Nexus 4 to tide me over till then, and then get one of those... but without firmer evidence I don't think I can really justify that radical a change of plans.
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Anyone got an idea of when note 3 will come
[Xperia Z General] Bhavik Jain:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Near september or october.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Wait for MWC, we should know something, or at least get new rumors.
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
New rumours?! Oh, well, in that case...! ;)
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Nothing from Sony at MWC. Sony isn't going to show any new phones or hold a press conference at MWC :)
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Nothing? Not even low to mid-end phones?

Well then, prefect timing! I'll be free of exams in June.... Will see what happens and then decide.
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
That's right. Nothing at all :)
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Can you stake your life on that??
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Yes I can :cowboy:
[Xperia Z General] thanh.ptiter0210:
S4 will be significantly better.
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
I love when I see so much insight and prof this statments... :rolleyes:

This news contradict yours :p

More details on the Xperia SP (C530X)
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Wait and Watch :D
[Xperia Z General] alicepattinson:
I would say I will wait for SGS4 :)
[Xperia Z General] force70:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I say buy em both...lm going to!
[Xperia Z General] :
I am also waiting for GS4, but saying that it will be significantly better is just nonsense. Wait a month before saying anything.
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Wouldnt it be nonsense to compare a phone that was revealed in January vs a phone in mid-March? But I am getting XZ.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Exactly
[Xperia Z General] omigasun:
Since I'm a SonyFanboy, so I'll go for The Z..,

I don't know for sure, but the rumour said that there will be another Sony's Flagmanship Phone in next quarter of 2013..,
[Xperia Z General] jianlinooi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=Fr7q6SbX8Do&v=AGxIlTsiUiM

great speaker comparision...
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
XZ seems pretty loud to me, not sure why everyone is making a fuss about it! :confused:
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Check the the other video on his channel (Speaker comparison between XZ and GS3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr7q6SbX8Do

The GS3 was louder than XZ in the 1st video......not yet :D

In the comment section, he explained that he dipped the XZ in water before he tried the Speaker test...

And then in his updated Videos when the XZ is fully dried

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=Fr7q6SbX8Do&v=AGxIlTsiUiM

the Speaker was much better :D

So the reason for ppl whining about the Sound quality of XZ is because they dipped the phone in the water and it blocks the sound from the Speaker =)
[Xperia Z General] :
Its because its Sony stepping up their game and Samsung/HTC fanboys don't like it. I'm more of a Apple fan than those other companies but got the Z coming next Thursday :)
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
I see :)

Yeah sounds about right...mine doesn't come until next Friday, it will kill me seeing everyone posting about receiving their XZ :( but still only one day after :)
[Xperia Z General] jianlinooi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0cN_NPSNu0

Xperia Z Vs iPhone 5 - SHOOTOUT
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
That's what Sony sales person told me the first time I tried out XZ - if water gets to the speaker, it won't be loud until it dries off. Can actually confirm than with mine.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Have you gotten yours? How is it!
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Yes, i have =) It's not as lound as Note 2 ( this was my previous phone ) but has great sound quality, quite deep lows for a speaker like that, and volume levels are perfectly reasonable. It's not the loudest speaker out there - but it's certainly loud enough for calls, ringtones or watching videos.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
That's great to hear. This is especially useful as I'm currently using the Note 2 - which has an exceptionally loud speaker which sadly emits low quality sound.

How about the phone overall? Is this your first Sony mobile experience? And was it worth the long, hard wait? :)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Edit :deleted ,you guys already watch both threads
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Hey i9100g, hope you are not heartbroken over the fact that GS4 will use S600 :(
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

And how do you know that.. Its all rumors... I bet s600 is for the us variants

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

Wanna place bets? :D
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol dude you seem like you are butt hurt because of what I posted , what do you want me to be like? Crying ? :D

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

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Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
So your saying that the SP is not going to be introduce at MWC or it doesn't exist at all?
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
I don't know why you guys fighting over S600 & Exonys Octa, how does it matters, even S600 will be more than enough !!

This year if Samsung wants to again become no. 1 they have to come up with some PREMIUM DESIGN.

S4 Case (rumour)
[Xperia Z General] :
That won't happen. More plastic and same s3 design no doubt.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Agreed, but it will not happen!

2 area's that have put me off owning another Samsung device is....lack of premium design and TouchWiz. My last 2 devices S3 and Note 2 (current phone) build quality is decent, just isn't premium for the price tag of them....and TouchWiz has just got really boring IMO.

When my XZ comes I will happily parade it around like iPhone users do as it's such a beautiful phone! :)
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah..sure..lol.. International versiom will use quad or octa exynos:p

Edit: i just checked the web for latest rumors and it says exynos octa might only be for note 3 or later.. Amd samsung might use s600 for the s4.. I am not much worried about it if they optimize it right and use a ddr3 ram instead of a ddr2 in the htc one.

I dont mind the plastic.. But the design sucks tbh.. Whats wrong with plastic?. Htc one x was plastic..it used the same material but with a good finish and a good design..and it was still one of the hottest looking phones around.. The only thing samsung needs to do is to get a good design..or i might have to buy something else..

OT- guess s3 just got a a leaked 4.2.1 update.. Gotta flash mine.. Lol..;)

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I just installed an Xperia Z Rom on my nexus 4 and I have to say that I love the UI. Looks futuristic, clean and fast with some nice features.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
There's an Xperia Z ROM for the nexus 4? damn, really tempted to grap a nexus 4 now.. refused to buy it for the paltry 16 gb internal storage.

man we never had those in the days of the nexus s/galaxy nexus.

But yeah, i like sony's approach to lightly dressing the android UI rather than completely uprooting it. Also, they have nice designers.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah it just got released today. It's not a 100% Xperia ( like multitasking is still aosp, and some of the features like apps running on top of the homescreen) but yeah, Xperia z launcher, keyboard, the way you add widgets and wallpapers. It's gives a pretty good idea on what to expect from the Z and I'm impressed honestly. (built from CM 10.1, not from the source yet)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Galaxy s4 specifications according to sammobile just 7.7mm thick :eek:, 138grams, aluminium sides, plastic back , removable battery, Snapdragon600 and lcd solux display fhd

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

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[Xperia Z General] :
Yep it's just a Z or One in plastic.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Crappy plastic at that.
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
How are you feeling ? :D Sad?????????? :p

Or still dreaming of Exynos OCTA :cool:
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
My quick enhancement :)

At least it looks like their trying to get away from the S3 "human" design... Thank God!
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
A lot of light coming from those corners... :p
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
Not AMOLED Sadly.... :(
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
It's funny because SAMOLED fans will have no-where to go now! No more pitch blacks/overboard colors anymore.
[Xperia Z General] :
Yep they thought they'd go with the Z design ;)
[Xperia Z General] vittogn:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Do u guys think that with Quallcom soc we'll have better chance of fully working AOSP roms?
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Better chances, yes. Really depends if they decide to release kernel source too.
[Xperia Z General] :
Yeah will be better, samsungs ships are over rated so is amoled so the S4 is shaping up to be a good device but its not a hell of a lot different from the Z or One now. Its just get what you prefer.
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
Honestly... if Samsung releases the S4 with no SAMOLED Screen & no Exynos SoC, I believe it's NOT an Galaxy S phone. Simple as that.

If anything they should wait to fix their SoC overheating issues or wait for the S800 series from Qualcomm...
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

And run out of millions of sales thanks to coming later in the market?

No S800,Sony togari will be the first phone with the S800(at least I'd like to think so)
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
By later I mean June / July, same time when the S3 came out (US at least).

You wouldn't lose to many sales in a 2.5 months span, especially by hyping the heck out of the media.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

It came be out a wee bit earlier in India, in may.

I dunno about that, they'd be losing customers in India if they come out later. If they come later, prices of other comparable handsets will be less.
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
It's said to have the S600 not the 400
[Xperia Z General] Bjray:
400?!? If you meant the S800 I already knew that, I was just stating that they should (could) wait to get the S800 instead or fix their SoC's. Only so they can stand out from the competition.

It really would ruin the Galaxy "S" brand name if they don't have Galaxy "S" features... SAMOLED, Exynos SoC, Micro SD Slot, Plastic.... etc
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Naw my bad.

Companies really won't wait for newer tech, what's the point? Newer tech comes out each day, how long would you wait for X and how long would you wait for Y. It's better to work with what you have.

Same goes for people that wait for newer phones. How long will you wait? New phones come out every week. And in the end it's only x% better then a previous phone.

I thought you mean the Snapdragon 400, but you were talking about the Galaxy S 4.

Anyways according to the rumors the phone will have the Snapdragon 600
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

The snapdragon 600 is great so it won't be the issue but as a Samsung person, the lack of Amoled would really suck.