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[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Indeed, at first glance the device appears to be washed out with dull colours, this is due to the launcher and wallpapers that the xperia Z comes preloaded with, but after changing wallpaper and launcher the device and the screens colors are beyond spectacular, they are bright, fluid and each colour is deep, especially the black, the screen collaborator firmware is due to come in a software update, this also plays a big part in the device's screen colors! The display is stunning and crisp, especially viewing text and high definition movies on the device! The glass is tough and hard to break as well, if you remove the coating found on the device it helps with the screen and viewing angles as well!
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
I have never had any doubts or issues over the screen quality of the Z, seeing as I have played with the phone for over three hours none of the negatives in reviews have concerned me. i am more than happy with screen and camera and no one has said anything negative about battery life which is the only thing I am unable to test in the shops, so for me this is the perfect phone.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Hey, I have both phones and checked with the exact same image files (transferred them over NFC, pretty nice!) both with Bravia Engine on and off. I have one of the first generation Xperia S devices, the one with the risk of yellow spots but more vibrant display. I don't really feel the way you do about it. The colour rendering is different, but the Xperia S isn't more vibrant.

The

first generation

display on the Xperia S always had a slightly warmer colour tint. White balance is a bit off. Contrast on estimated equal brightness in my opinion was better on the Xperia Z. And while the Xperia S display goes bright even when you tilt it over just slightly the Xperia Z has far less issues with this. If you really compare both with identical images you notice the Xperia S has some difficulties in displaying blue in a natural, balanced way while making everything slightly yellow. The

second generation

Xperia S had a more neutral white balance but lost out on saturation - reds turned pink. I'll try and do a direct comparison with a very recent Xperia S on Monday/Tuesday, someone in my class has one.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

Can you get us some pictures or a video of your screen.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

Some idiot was allowed to take an Xperia z home for testing and had no camera whatsoever to take photos lol :D
[Xperia Z General] rufaz:
viewing angles doesnt matter to me. i dont think it does matter to most of the population at all. afterall, the screen is small. i think, viewing angle only matter when you're on tablet.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Take a look at this Video

The viewing angles is bad at all :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DoNQcM8T4c8
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Do you actually read the forums? This was posted by Shem already, he made the video.
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Sorry :)) I haven't read the topic yet :D

I just want to show rufaz about the XZ's screen, its quite good and some trolls keep bashing about it :D
[Xperia Z General] rufaz:
lol. yeah. i am really sorry since u got bashed for sharing that vid. lol. :D
[Xperia Z General] Stedus:
Its ok :)) its my fault when i forgot to quote your post together with the vid :))

For the XZ, The screen is really good, so you don't need to worry about it :D
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Lets hope so :|.
[Xperia Z General] REAVER117:
Re: Xperia Z screen

It may not be as saturated as the S3, but side by side with my Nexus 4 it's no contest -the ZL has much better contrast.
[Xperia Z General] blackhand1001:
The one x has the best view angles for any smartphone lcd. I wish more manufacturers would use those screens.
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
Htc alwaz comes up with the best screens.
[Xperia Z General] Matarese171:
I personally couldn't care less about viewing angles, its not a tv your always going to be looking at it straight on. The most pointless complaint IMO.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
left to right

Xperia S, Xperia Z, Galaxy S 3, iPhone 5
[Xperia Z General] k2k00:
I love my S3 but after sudden death and dont know what must do! :crying:
[Xperia Z General] Zlatan9.:
Jup, xperia z has a nice screen
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
This phones have different brightness levels. Wonder who made this? Whoever made is biased on Sony device and mostly on Xperia S.
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
This. So many times this. If you're gonna talk, get your facts straight. ALL LCDs, and I mean ALL of them, from a miserable2-color calculator display up to some 100+" 8k displays are ALL TFT LCD. After that You have three main subtypes: TN, IPS and VA. Even forther down, each a re split: TN has TN and TN+, IPS has S-IPS, H-IPS and AH-IPS from LG and PLS by Samsung and finally VA splits down into basic VA, MVA, PVA and S-PVA, mostly Samsung. Each of those sub-subtypes refer to improvements made by different manufacturers.

Shouldn't be an issue for LCDs, regardless of density. OLED displays have an issue do to the individual LEDs burning out with usage.

Actually, most phone LCDs are horribly oversaturated and way out for colour accuracy. Sony is the only company by the looks of it taking accuracy seriously.

The S3 uses an OLED panel that is oversaturated by default, just like all previous Samsung OLED phones. Other OLED phones have similar issues since no effort is made to compensate for the much increased colour gamut of the OLED panels, instead forcing sRGB gamut into wide-gamut displays. I can tell the difference between my Dell U2410 wide-gamut display and the terrible sRGB panel in my Dell E6400.
[Xperia Z General] MaskedMagi:
Re: Xperia Z screen

Hate to say this but having seen two separate units in person, I don't think I could deal with the washed out colours. Didn't notice it in videos when bravia engine kicked in but icons and everything else look really badly washed out, even from fave on.

Such a shame because the videos looked stunning and everything else is fantastic.
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
What phone do you have? a LOT of current phone are oversaturated (anything with AMOLED and quite a lot of LCD-based as well).
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Posted this in the Comparison thread (because it was sort of a comparison) but i guess it's relevant here too:

I had a brief play with the Xperia Z - and i have good and bad news regarding the screen. Note that it was an early test unit so take the below with a grain of salt - i was told that the final retail units will be better. End of disclaimer.

Had an iPhone 5 and Padfone 2 to compare it with. Didn't bother comparing it with my Note 2 (not a fan of SAMOLEDS). Tried lowering the brightness of all to about the same perceived level (ended up being less than half on all). The Xperia Z has a very whitely bright screen.

First the bad news: Looking at it head on, the Xperia Z does indeed have relatively washed out colors and weirdly blue greys and blacks. It's not THAT bad but it's very noticeable - For example, reds on the website "theinquirer.net" tend to look a bit dark pinkish. Comparison to the iPhone 5 and Padfone 2 only resulted in disappointment.

The good news, however, is that this completely changes when viewing images in the gallery - when the Bravia 2 enhancement kicks in. Blacks are dark, colors are crisp and deep - even the sharpness goes up a notch. It's like the color gamut expands ten-fold. Better than or on par with the iPhone 5 which is saying a lot.

So, i can only conclude that since the faults of the display can be fixed through software enhancement (Bravia 2), the screen panel itself is excellent.

I forgot to look for the display calibration settings . DOH.

The big question though is if the Bravia 2 enhancement can be permanently activated. Does anyone know if this is possible on previous Xperias?
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
Ok thats bad..washed out colors :(
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
The display calibration part was the most important for me :( come on guys please take a look if it really exists. This feature would surely kick all these saturation and washed out conditions on the trash bin.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I work at vodafone and we are testing the device as of now. Don't worry it is included in the device and i have messed about with it and the great thing is there is many presets which can allow you to change the screen mode you like, ie movie, dark, light, vibrant
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Thank you! Finally! I can sleep well every night lol! So yeah Xperia ZL is the all in one device for me(Minus the hardware keyboard) yeah lol I'm a HW keyboard enthusiast and this will be my 1st phone without a keyboard :(
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Just buy a bluetooth keyboard, and use it on the go, or plug in your keyboard via usb to the device since it supports usb otg ;)
[Xperia Z General] kyogiro:
I tested the device yesterday. And I have to say that when the Bravia Engine 2 is not there (it didn't activate while using Youtube I think), the screen is just plain and simple horrible. We had a couple of IPS display there to compare it to (Apple iPhone 4/iPhone 5, Xiaomi Mi2), the phone just doesn't stand the comparison while the extra sharpness dosn't make it for it (wasn't all that impressive and we had a really hard time noticing real differences).
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Nope! That would only be against my main use of a hardware keyboard. Cause I mostly use it for a rough road typing(we had a lot of rough roads here).
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
@shem2509

Great video man..thats a great look in to the screen and i guess a lot of faith has been restored!
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
While I had my One X, I had none of those issues. S-ON was a ***** though. Not eing to flash /boot from recovery drove me up the wall when I wanted to have a go at hacking kernels. So far it made me sell the phone and go back to my NS until I could get a Nexus 4 (we all know what happened there...) and now I'm pretty much set on getting an Xperia ZL (or Z if I can't get a ZL). Assuming VF-AU allows unlocking the bootloader, which they usually do. Otherwise it'll be a Nexus 4.

It's called respecting the NDA :P
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

Lol it was a joke :P

He was going to provide us with photos but is hox just bricked lol. And he has no camera
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Bad screen????????????? :)
[Xperia Z General] kyogiro:
The thing that really worries is the fact that the bad screen units found its way to the market.

Both GSMarena & PhoneArena ended up with bad screen units as well as my local retail Sony Store in Paris. I have no doubt about the fact that some XZ out there have deep black and all but I wonder if I buy a XZ with a bad screen, will it be a valid reason to return it and claim a new one, hopefully, with a better screen.

So far, what is really disturbing is the fact that Sony didn't make any comments about that, therefore, I'm afraid that Sony won't even consider the bad screen as an issue. Even worse, if they will at all acknowledge this fact.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

They are not bad units. They are units specifically labeled as demo units not for sale by Sony.

They were made purposely for demoing only. They not want to create thousands of 500 pound devices to send to reviewers and spots to test out. Drop test analyze. Saves them money and also time to get the production units ready for launch etc
[Xperia Z General] kyogiro:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

Somehow, I doubt that 500 units (even a bit more) would harm Sony's cash flow. Those demo phones represent almost nothing in comparison to the money already invested in R&D, marketing and producing a few millions for the launch day. Moreover, producing specifically a few bad units would cost more money because of the low produced numbers.

I really think there are 2 models out there and both will find their way to the mass market. Producing, like you say, only 500 units (or more) as demo model would be a bad call, cost more because of the low number produced, bad publicity, but producing a good amount of them making 2 different model is entirely possible. It has been made by others before and it's usually common in the TV industry.

They would present on purpose a cheap unit at their own retail store? Unit on which people will make their buying judgement.

Usually it's the contrary, some constructors prefer to present their demo units at their best, not at their worst since it's really cheap and good publicity.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

Definitely doesn't make sense to all of us xda users. But majority of public just look at the adverts, go into store look at it and buy. Lol.

And hey profits and cost minimizing is at the fore front of any business. The demo units are not bad, unusable etc, they are labeled demo and let you see the product and test its functions.

Now Sony are releasing this to many countries. Think about it most uk stores have demos like, three and vodafone, and we could easily day in total we probably got over 1000 units. That's easily 500,000 pounds worth of retail units.

Half a million pound per country and no profits yet lol.

Not trying to defend Sony

But they haven't release this yet. Also we are speculating on reviews online :(

But all of the Japanese docomo branded units look perfect and nothing like demo

All the final production units being sent to carriers to test their own firmware are production units with good screens

So I think it's best we wait.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
:D, shoot me!

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That's correct, why are we all panicking for no reason, please contain yourself's ;)
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
Ok, so today I phoned the Sony Center store in Poznan to find out if they will allow me to the a scratch test on the displayed device. Unfortunately they informed me that it is not be possible but they gave me a number to the official Sony representative.

I just got off the phone with the man and that's the information that I have received:

"The screen on Sony Xperia Z is covered in tempered glass, which is a combination of Gorilla Glass 2 and Dragontail. We have excessively tested our devices and it will not be possible to scratch the glass with normal use. We did hovewer throw the devices around to check their resistance and after forcefully throwing them on the ground (with sand) small scratches could be visible on the back of the device.

The screen of the Xperia Z comes with a screen protector and there is no purpose in removing it. "

So I guess we will have to wait for one of the end-users who are not afraid to sacrifice their device to see a real scratch test, but taking into account its reinforced Gorilla Glass 2, and we all know how well those perform, this device should be one of the most scratch-proof devices on the market.:cool:
[Xperia Z General] PE4ce:
there is somthing not right in this picture

no way the XZ screen showing the black deeper than Amoled panel

I'm confused
[Xperia Z General] ascariss:
I visited the Sony centre here in Gdansk to see if they had the new phone, to my surprise it was there :D

I looked at the screen, contrast is fantastic, it does not wash out at all, I compared it to my S2, and while the S2 has insane viewing angles and blacks, the Z was very close and due to the fullHD on the Z, the screen beats my S2 hands down. The screen on the Z looks like real life, this is how awesome the screen is.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
It's not deeper, it's equally deep. When you're in a light environment and you don't set the brightness on the Xperia Z too high blacks on the Xperia Z will look just as deep as it looks on an AMOLED display.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

I.for one am satisfied with the screen after hearing first hand reviews and shems video. More videos from users seeing it in person would be appreciated.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
BE2, perhaps?

The screen looks fantastic with it on.
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
@GadgetsBoy @aedney I just got off the phone with Sony Rep. The glass is GG2+DragonTrail and it should be completely scratch proof.

6 min. GadgetsBoy.com ‏@GadgetsBoy

@shem2409 the back isn't ill put a video up later, front is scratch proof but to certain extent.

4 min. @shem2409

@GadgetsBoy The guy said that the back scratched only after they forcefully dropped it on the ground (with sand) and that both f + b are (?)

3 min. GadgetsBoy.com ‏@GadgetsBoy

@shem2409 not according to my test lol, got a scratch on the back now.

Hmmm.. looks like the phone isn't all that scratchproof after all :( (at least it comes with a screen protector)
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
pyriget prome

Hi, I'm new registered user here but I've been following everything about Xperia Z and already made a pre order.

Just like you I'm a bit concerned about the Z screen, so I search and read a lot...

Just came across with a Russian review (which I cannot put here due to limitations of my new account :( )

I translated it with google translate, and read it.

They are stating that the Xperia Z it's not an IPS panel, nor a TN...it’s a VA panel! They say that Sony use this panels a lot in their TVs and in terms of viewing angles they are in the middle between TN and IPS.

As a matter of fact, and with what we are seeing in this videos and pictures, the information might be correct.

What do you guys think?
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
The display is e-IPS. You can find what that means over here:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/content/panel_technologies_content.htm#e-ips
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
looks like the sony has some dead pixels
[Xperia Z General] ascariss:
I had my NEX camera and was going to make a video of the screen but the sales rep asked me not to :mad:
[Xperia Z General] Humandroidz:
i think the scratches you have are just superficial. they are only scratches on the plastic screen protector pre-installed by sony. if you remove protector, you can easily replace it and get rid of the scratches.
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
2 types of glass in one phone, sorry but that is just wrong
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
I am just citing the words of the Sony Rep that I got a number to from the Sony Store. Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about ... :/
[Xperia Z General] kyogiro:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

I wonder if you would have thrown a 3rd imaginary name (I don't know maybe something like Lion Glass), the rep would have told you that it's a combination between the 3 types.
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
The scratches were on the glass on the back and not on the screen protector. I also quoted gadgetsboy from twitter and he has a scratch on the back of his Xperia Z after I asked him to do a scratch test. He said that he will upload the video some time later.

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Well, I have his phone number and just messaged him for clarification of the matter.
[Xperia Z General] XDA mark:
Yeah Bravia Engine 2 turns on when viewing pictures in the Gallery app, that's probably why it looks so great indeed.

Hoping that there will be a way to have BE2 on all the time (and that it wouldn't drain your battery insanely much)
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

You can do, but I've read it is really difficult too and removes the Sony badge!
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
I went on the review and I found why PA review has so dark pictures! They use the normal mode instead of Superior Auto!

In the Russian review they have the same shots with SA on and off. The off mode is just like PA shots, too dark...

About the IPS, they done color measures and contrast measures...

The bright was almost on pair with the Japan Display specifications, they measure about 400-440 nits.

The problem was contrast! They have measured 570:1 instead of 1000:1 from specifications... :(
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
I just spent 10 minutes on the phone with Sony Rep. Apparently Sony uses Gorilla Glass 2 as well as DragonTrail. Devices will come with either one installed. (you might have the front panel made of GG2 and back from DT) and consumers will not have a choice of the glass used. The back panel of the phone has an additional layer on the glass which provides some glare effect (so that could be the layer that is being scratched and not the actual glass). On the front there will be a screen protector preinstalled.

Users will not have an option to select the glass used in their phone, so we will either have GG2 or DT on the front and either GG2 or DT on the back. I think that this should also clarify the on going debate about which glass is used in Xperia Z.
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

I just can't deal with dead pixels...
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
I understand wasn't trying to call you out or something like that

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Cool thanks!
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
No, that was a very good call. I realised that it can't be both so I messaged the rep and he called me back, providing the explanation that I have shown in a post above.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 15/02]

You should have told him why do you have it on display then. Everyone knows what it looks like lol. Bit stupid of them
[Xperia Z General] sshariff:
I have just come back playing with the Xperia Z in a 3 store as well as a Phones4u store and comparing it with my Xperia T. Was considering putting my XT on ebay and going for the Z but having seen the two next two each other I decided against it.

The two screens are almost identical except that the Z has more PPI, however cannot make out that difference to be honest as the XT already has a good PPI. I adjusted both phone screens to maximum brightness and found the XT to be the brighter of the two. Also set both to 50% and again the XT screen was slightly brighter. Viewing angles are very much the same. Played the Xperia HD landscapes video on both phones at the same time next to each other and to be honest the video in my XT looked slightly better.

The homescreens and app drawers look virtually identical (had even the same default theme set on both phones) to the XT except that the screen on the Z is bigger. Opened Chrome on both phones and again whites of the T are visibly whiter on the XT compared with the Z. Again checked this both at max as well as 50% brightness. I have never owned any smartphone other than a Sony and I have to be truthful is saying that the display is not the best out there. But it still is a descent display, not bad at all like others sound to be.

I also compared the display with that of the Nexus 4 in the 3 store and to be honest the Nexus 4 has the better display overall. The salesman could not comment when I asked his opinion to be honest.

The design of the Z is definitely better. Saw the white as well as black one out of which black seemed the better one (mainly since only the back and sides are white while the front is still black).

All in all anyone considering an upgrade from the XT to a Z should definitely go out and compare the two themselves first. It is definitely not worth the circa £200 extra compared with the XT prices of today.