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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
If your connected to LTE you should see about an 30 min to an hour less of battery life, if your connected to "4G" (3G) but your phone is constantly searching for a LTE signal you going to lose about 1:30-2 hours.

I just bought some batteries to deal with this :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Any news on LTE in Vegas? Can you post your screens of ServiceMode or speedtests?

THanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] winlinmac001:
Thanks that explains why my battery life has been fluctuating. Even when I am connected to 3G my phone still displays 4G and the battery life consumed is the same when I am connected to either type. Is there anyway to turn on the data connection automatically whenever a particular app requires it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
I actually had to sign a disclosure. So I can't talk about this or post anything that would identify me. All I can really say is a internet speed test for today is 3x faster then what it would of been 3 days ago.

What you want to conclude from there is up to you. There was also a guy who got introuble for opening a thread about this that is on our list.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] engi19:
3x faster sounds nice. Could you disclose anything about the ping results? Or do we have to wait till its live in Vegas or kc?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
Speed test from Kansas.

www.tmonews.com/2013/01/first-t-mobile-lte-speed-tests-spotted-in-kansas-city/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
31 ms ping
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
The only thing I'm interested in is whether in your ServiceMode says LTE DL BW: 10Mhz or 5Mhz.

I've been brainstorming over this for a long time since Vegas market could be either.

Thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
How would I be able to check?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Just dial *#0011* in your phone dialer. It'll display your connectivity readings.

It looks like this in Kansas City Market using an unlocked ATT Note and T-Mobile consumer account SIM:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] engi19:
Damn, thats pretty damn nice.

I see the speeds from the tmonews post. Seems slow, but you said you where getting about 3x the speed.

By the looks of it, im guessing when I get the note 4 once this contract is up that I can kiss my home 50mb connection goodbye and just run a hotspot through tmobile. Ive been waiting for this for years.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
Yup :) They just prbly enabled the LTE band and not the speed. But how are we able to tell he's connected to the T-Mobile Network on T-Mobile?

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I'm connected to Band4, can't say if its LTE or DCHSPA.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Wow are you serious? If you're not allowed to talk then forget it.

If not, status bar tells 4G LTE instead of 4G, also if it shows RSRP and RSRQ settings in ServiceMode, it's LTE.

If it lists at the bottom of ServiceMode page HSPA+ or DC_HSPA+ then you're not on LTE.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
I don't wanna sound like I'm playing games or whatever. But they made me sign something. I wish I could all show you whats going on! The data icon has a new icon :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Rhiannon224:
How's battery life on lte?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Just forget about it bro.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
I have good news that I can say. T-Mobile customers should be getting "A" update tommorow afternoon :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] shinkinrui:
How about instead of anything having to do with the lte network, you just take a quick screenshot of your "about device" screen? That doesn't show which network you're connected to.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jpeps3:
Lte testing in kc any got it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] badpanda:
Im currently getting 17Mbps downloads! And 3Mbps uploads in my 4G... so why this LTE is slower than 4G? O.o
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ionic7:
read the article you just quoted it answers it...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
A few friends of mine here in Vegas that work for tmobile seem to know nothing about an update tomorrow. Not saying you are but I sure hope you are not trolling...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] shinkinrui:
I'm trying very hard not to accuse him of trolling too. But as of yet, I have not seen anything from him that would make me believe he's telling the truth.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] suhailtheboss:
There is no update for tomorrow.

Just wait and see.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] aristo2jzgte:
Ill say it...."jose is full of caca!!!!!!!!"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] phreshjoker:
FINALLY... this guys the real tmobile user not jose... hes full of crap seeking attention. This happened in the other thread and he couldnt prove that he was actually on the *tmobile testing* rom. So no one believe his B.S. he just wants attention

Youtube: GalaxyNoteHelper Subscribe Please :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ionic7:
Where's the update troll?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
He just lost any credibility he may have ever had on XDA...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
Just wait assholes.

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Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xcaliburpcs:
Lol, I have not gotten an update.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
Was just told it was for the SIII. I told you guys about a update even before T-Mobile confirmed it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] saseekutz:
Thanks for giving me a good laugh :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Bye.

10char.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
Give it up, you have zero credibility on here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] _Dennis_:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37412471

13 hours ago this was posted in GS3 forms, 2 hours ago Jose changed his statement to say only GS3 gets the update. Hum......
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Just ignore him. He's trolling in need of attention.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] darekz:
Is gs3 lte phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
Nope.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] windctyaudi:
I dont think its out yet but the new S3 will support LTE

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mobile-announces-revamped-galaxy-s-iii-with-lte/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] horr1blek1tten:
Can u take a screen shot and black everything out and show us the new data icon?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
It's already been posted by a completely different user. Jose is bogus. Here is the new logo:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] horr1blek1tten:
That's ugly lmfao the logo wow what upload speeds. Download doesn't look very promising.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
You're welcome...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] shinkinrui:
The upgrade to lte will probably not result in signifigant increases in download speed. The download speed will stay pretty close to what hspa+ is now (I'm talking in general terms, of course- for areas where they update the backhaul as well, download speeds will increase. But in most areas the backhaul update is already completed).

What LTE really improves upon is ping time and upload speeds. The ping is important for everyday browsing- the faster the ping, the less the latency and the faster the pages/data will actually start loading for you :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Well 2x5Mhz LTE they're deploying in Kansas City can only do 37mbps down and 12mbps up per sector. They don't have enough AWS spectrum there to deploy wider channel LTE. Speeds are gonna be about half of Verizon's LTE network, but latency and upload will significantly improve over HSPA+ network.

Also, keep in mind that T-Mobile downgraded their DC-HSPA+ network in Kansas City in order to deploy more spectrally efficient LTE. They are keeping HSPA+21 in both AWS and PCS.

This doesn't mean that T-Mobile isn't gonna deploy 2x10Mhz 73mbps capable LTE network in other markets. They claimed that 90% of top 25 markets will have 2x10Mhz LTE. Which means that Kansas and two more markets will have 2x5Mhz 37mbps LTE. Wait and see... :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
Right the new S3 T999-L will have LTE and that S3 is not out yet, but the old S3 does not have LTE.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] shinkinrui:
Good info, quoting for truth :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
I just left my local T Mobile store to pay my bill and while I was in there I was speaking with the district manager. I asked her about the LTE update for the Note 2 and she told me it's already out but being pushed slowly to everyone's phone.... Im not sure how much truth is behind that or not, but I know my wife, myself and about 12 friends of ours have yet to get an update and we are in Vegas.

Soon I hope.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
That's why she's a district manager. :) she knows how to align with you and assure you that it's coming without giving you any specifics, whatsoever.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Markor13:
Lol good point.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members please for this thread to remain valid & alive lets post actual information of your own device and if "not" is spotted report it vice posting against it. Thank You.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
We just got LTE installed on the tower in our building and there is some test LTE devices in the building. What would be necessary from an lte device anyways? Modem maybe?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
What market are you in? You mean a cell site on the roof of your building? What carrier? Talk to the ones with the test devices and figure that out first.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
Well idk how much time they will give me with their test device. But yes we have a T-Mobile tower on our building, we have them early so that we can test LTE devices but my market isn't getting deployed with LTE just yet. They just recently refarmed our market so they did our building first and installed LTE as well. I was curious if The modem would be the crucial part to activating LTE or if it would be more compñex then that?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
What Market are you in?

Also, how do you know you have T-Mobile's LTE cell site on your building? Why are you saying "we"? Who? Employees or consumers?

thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] suhailtheboss:
Clubrsx bros

Free zona
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] phreshjoker:
Just to give a heads up... basic info but if yiure in big cities... like dallas, houston, la, etc.. and your service is dropping or just getting spotty that means the towers are upgrading. So watch your service carefully :)

Youtube Channel: GalaxyNoteHelper
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] horr1blek1tten:
Dude I've noticed this today. Could hardly browse the webs at times I hope that's the case. I'm in el paso texas is that big enough? Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] phreshjoker:
Depends... the population and the location of your stay. If its more city than rural than big enough :)

Youtube Channel: GalaxyNoteHelper
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] horr1blek1tten:
We had 4 for a long time tho idk if we've even been refarmed yet but I hope they skip that and setup lte
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] phreshjoker:
Well if you have an unlocked iphone on your hands you could check if it catches 3g data then its refarmed

Youtube Channel: GalaxyNoteHelper
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] horr1blek1tten:
Yea I don't
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
I was avoiding stating I work for tmobile but that is how I know. We talked to the techs who came to install it, and the LTE prepped notes are being tested by some of the people in the building. Market doesn't matter because the rest of the market is likely not getting LTE right now. They are refarming my market currently but only installed LTE for the tower on our building.

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Thumbs up :)

Yes and no most of the big cities are done actually, I have a list at work. There are some that get some left behind issues, they may have to go back and fix. Other then that though if you have some issues it's good to report it to tmobile just in case something isn't working right they can file a service check for your tower in the area.

Last I checked El Paso was done already, sorry to hear you got some issues I'd recommend reporting it to tmobile though. We are trying to stay on top of service issues due to refarming or after.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xcaliburpcs:
If El paso is done then Houston must be also done, does it mention anything about pasadena Tx? Or does it count as part of Houston Tx? Im right of 225 and 610
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
Houston I'm almost certain said done, I saw Dallas and El Paso both on the list. I can check when I get back to work tomorrow best way to test though is to put your sim in an unlocked phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] horr1blek1tten:
Where's this list? And what's refarming mean for us 4g folks?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Would you mind checking how close to done is NYC?

Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
Don't mind at all, they list by market though and don't show progress. I can only see if the market itself is complete. I heard they would make updates to show refarmed areas. I want to get LTE up and running most of all, does anyone know if LTE could be enabled in the secret menus that can be pulled up with the dialer on Samsung devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Poke_N_PDA:
The folks at the Tom store said OKC was a test market and that we would get it soon. Don't know how true that is, but is it on your list?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
You would need a radio firmware update pushed from T-Mobile to enable your Note 2 dormant LTE capability. Then you would need your T-Mobile's account provisioned with the special feature code.

So are there any markets that are complete? As far as I know, they're launched, but none of the markets are actually completed with refarming.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] personaje91:
Why they don't turn the LTE already. They said it was going to be in weeks but nothing. We want LTE.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
They list them as modernized so I would take it as complete but I suppose maybe they could be still working in those areas. Side note I was able to see the z10 but not the note on LTE. Wish I had more info on when they plan to roll out LTE to other areas. I will say LTE seems cool but I don't believe it will make a huge improvement right away. Latency seems better, data connection is instantly working as oppose to the delay you see with hspa.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] suhailtheboss:
Speeds have changed a bit here in Kansas on LTE. Just got 14mbs down and 11up. Better than the 10mbs that it seemed to be capped on before.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Modernized markets = upgraded cell sites to Rel 10 + migrated HSPA+21 carrier to the 1900Mhz Band 2.

So when they launched those markets, they aren't 100% done, it just means that a satisfactory number of cell sites are upgraded. That also doesn't mean that the LTE is done, as it needs to be tested first by engineers, then by employees.

If you are in Kansas market, your download speeds are gonna be comparable to HSPA+42, but the upload is gonna be 4-10 times better. Also the latency will be much more consistent.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
I didn't mean lte with "modernized" right now that only refers to refarming as far as I know. Yes though, they may still be working to fully refarm those areas. I think LTE at its current state won't be huge over hspa+ my buddies with Verizon and LTE have fast speeds yes but it only helps them get started because of the latency. Once we download a file about the same size hspa+ is faster if not on par. I'm not in Kansas those are areas where they are testing various lte sites we only have one lte site here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Actually no. Modernized markets involve two stage strategy, both refarmed spectrum and "modernized" Release 10 multimode sites. Those sites are either Ericsson AIR, or Nokia Siemens with Flexi BTS depending on your market. Those panels are multi band - multi mode and support GSM/WCDMA/LTE/LTE-Advanced so that's where $4 Billion went. It's the latest and greatest there is...

And yes LTE can make a huge difference, again depending on your market as 2x10Mhz LTE will get you up to 73mbps (see my sig) with 26mbps upload and consistent sub 50ms latency. 2x5Mhz LTE will get you 37/12mbps experience.

here if you wanna check out the equipment:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xcaliburpcs:
How come in some speed test at&t snd verizon have a higher upload speed?

And whats the difference between rev10 and earlier revisions?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Verizon is running 2x10Mhz LTE configuration nationwide, and AT&T has a lot of markets with the same config. That much spectrum in current Release 8 LTE with 2x2 MIMO setup will get you 73mbps peak download speeds and 26mbps peak upload. T-Mobile should run most markets in the same config, and after the merger they'll also be able to run 2x20Mhz with peak speeds of 150mbps down and 26mbps up (2x2 MIMO on the downlink)

Release 10 is essentially infrastructure capable of LTE-Advanced features like Carrier Aggregation (bonds two Release 8 channels to double the speed peaking at 150mbps at 2x20Mhz), higher order (4x4) MIMO (more input/out antenna paths to effectively double the speeds, but current user devices are only 2x2), HetNet (the ability for user equipment to see and connect to small cells like pico cells to offload the macro cell sites), Relaying, etc...

Really the only features that we can expect at first will be carrier aggregation that we'll directly benefit from. The others will come later (2014+) once the smartphones/USB modems start supporting it. Also the Ericsson AIR panels have integrated Radio heads so even HSPA+ network benefits from higher efficiency and less signal loss.

etc... :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] personaje91:
If the speed will be 73 down, why they are saying it will be better tha the other companies if Verizon and AT&T has the same speed peaks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
They really don't talk about the speeds necessarily, but the network itself. Verizon network is Release 8, and the upgrade to LTE-Advanced (Release 10) is not pretty straightforward. It would require a brand new equipment deployment across the board, I'm not sure if Alcatel-Lucent (their contractor) currently even offers Release 10 for CDMA carrier, and it's very expensive. They're first in the LTE business, hats off to them.

AT&T's equipment is much easier to upgrade, currently is Release 8 as well, but their base stations RBS6000's will mostly need card swap for release 10 features. Their panels are Dual Band LTE so along their 700Mhz spectrum, they could also go live with PCS or AWS LTE if they wanted to.

But when it comes to speeds, only T-Mobile and Verizon could deploy 2x20Mhz of contiguous spectrum that's capable of 150mbps download speeds (using Category 4 User Equipment that should be available shortly). And only T-Mobile has a clear path and timeframe for that deployment.

AT&T and sprint simply don't have enough spectrum to push those speeds without some serious refarming...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1justformail:
Up here in Seattle and my galaxy note 2 has been sending me the same text over and over again from a couple different numbers. Made a call out and my number was coming up as no id. Someone called me and they said it sounded like a fax machine. All this since yesterday. Could testing be happening up here in Seattle? :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
That's T-Mobile USA home market (Bellevue), I would guess they're certainly testing there :good:

Not sure if your phone issue has anything to do with it though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1justformail:
I was thinking the same thing...phone issues not related. But I did a full wipe internal memory and all. I haven't had the multiple same text happen but the calling in and out issues all happend after the full wipe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] personaje91:
When is that timeframe? And also the phones need to support LTE Advance right? They need a new chip?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JOSE89178:
Correct.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ktetreault14:
Where is Tampa, Florida on the list? I have a s3 now but am getting a note 2 in a few weeks.. I have noticed ony s3 that my speeds have gotten better, but starting yesterday I can't connect to hspap:15.. It will only switch between 3G and H.. Not H+, I wondered if they were doing anything with the network?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1justformail:
I believe the Galaxy Note 2 only needs a software update. See site bellow at bottom of the page it states just that...galaxy note 2 already supports lte.

http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...-plans-major-4g-lte-roll-out-for-2013-1127380
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] acideater:
Yup. Us GN2 owners get to experience the awesomeness with no extra expense while all the other T-Mobile victims have to buy a new compatible phone. :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] personaje91:
Yes but the chip is not LTE release 10 version.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1justformail:
What?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
There are currently no LTE-Advanced capable User Equipment commercially available anywhere. Qualcomm should be releasing MDM9x25 baseband chipsets(not chips unless you're talking potatoes) sometimes by mid year and we should be expecting first LTE-A capable smartphones sometimes in H2 2013.

But keep in mind, your phone isn't gonna have 150mbps speeds just because the chipset inside is capable of... Wireless operators will have to deploy 2x20Mhz LTE channels, which I'm gonna say again, we shouldn't be expecting on T-Mobile unless you live in Salt Lake City for example where they have amazing 60Mhz of AWS spectrum...

Those speeds we're more likely to get in 2014-15 timeframe once MetroPCS merger is successfully closed. Verizon Wireless could deploy 2x20Mhz AWS carrier this year, but they haven't promised anything yet.

AT&T and Sprint can only dream of that for the time being.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] personaje91:
As for now what is the theoretically capability of the chip in the Note 2 in terms of speed.

Note: Thanks for all the info.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
Most current LTE devices are Rel 8 Category 3 (few of them are Cat 2) capable of 100mbps down and 50mbps up. But again, only when used 2x20Mhz Physical Layer. No US operators use this. 2x10Mhz will cap you at 73mbps down and 26 up. So we can't see full 100mbps at the moment.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] personaje91:
But then even when T-Mobile deploys LTE advance with the 2x20Mhz the current LTE capable devices will benefit right? Because the speed will go from 73mbps to 150 mbps and the phone will support until 100 mbps. So it could go from 73 to 100 improvement on the phone right?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milan03:
That's correct. 102mbps to be more precise.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Poke_N_PDA:
I continually hear that the thing that maters for data is how much spectrum a carrier has in your area. How exactly do I find that out? I've been googling it, but I haven't had any luck. I'm trying to find out who owns what mobile spectrum in OKC and consequently get's the best data service. any suggestions?