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[Xperia Z General] harise100:
This might be true, but when I look into the Xperia S and Xperia T Forums I'm not impressed. Most ROMs are modified Sony stock ROMs and some are half-baked CM/AOKP base Jelly Bean ROMs (JB ROM code with an ICS kernel.)

No different from what is on the S3 forum!

So where does this hyped support by Sony for developers have any effect on ???

If I read AOSP I'm thinking of the Nexus7 forum and this regard both are lightyears away.
[Xperia Z General] -A-P-M-:
Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, but I have seen a lot of praising about them. Codeworkx and Entropy wrote a few times that Sony gives the best support for non-Nexus phones. Codeworkx also made CM10 without major bugs in about 2 weeks ( http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/10/11/cm10-for-sony-xperia-t/ ), for SGS3 it took much longer. This is one of reasons why I became tempted to get Sony..

Looking at hardware, IMO Xperia S and Xperia T were already dated on its launch and this could be a reason why they aren't that popular..
[Xperia Z General] omid_freesky:
Galaxy S3 i9300 is not good. it lags. (1GB ram is not enough)

Galaxy S3 i9305 however is the best phone. i changed from i9300 to i9305 and i've never been happier. it's simply AMAZING

i attached an extended battery too.

every thing about Galaxy S 4 is a rumor including the 8 core, so it's only a guess. who knows what sammy got for us this time

and if the rumors are true 4 weak cores are for regular use (low battery) and other 4 cores are when you want performance. (so it will be steady and will be powerful when you want to)

S3 design is great. the plastic feels nice and light. but that steel look a like bezel is what i hate, because it can get scratched even with a finger nail. i hope they don't repeat it on S4

i don't like samsung touchwiz, htc sense, Sony timescape, Motorola Motoblur. i use Apex launcher but what comes with TWiz is what it i love.

i hate SONY's screen. the black color looks like gray. it's like an old colored shirt left under the sunlight for a year.

battery life on these phones are NOT GOOD. and still they go for irremovable battery.

Rooting of a Samsung phone needs 10 minutes "WAIT" INCLUDING flashing a custom rom. (put the phone in download mode and 4 clicks later you got CWM on your phone)

With SONY i've never been happy when it comes to Rooting. First you need to get a code from their website (if your phone didn't get one you're screwed because yours is unrootable)

the same goes to HTC

i would wait for the next nuke from Samsung
[Xperia Z General] Gregz78:
3 sony's and never seen a sony website in order to root.... Rooted in 2min counting.

I don't bother reading the rest....
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

The older the device is slower it would get compared to new one also sense 4 is older to TouchWiz 5
[Xperia Z General] MICa.fighter:
i have an s2 and im pretty satisfied with it. its fast, its kinda durable. Didnt even considered upgrading to s3, cause 2 more cores didnt worth that much money. but when they announced xperia z, i knew im gonna buy that phone. maybe s4 have 8 cores. but who cares? my s2 with 2 cores is fast. i think 4 cores is far more than enough. manufacturers should start improving batteries and durability rather than more cores. s4 probably wont have ip55 and ip57. xperia z has them. thats a big win for sony. and dont forget, cm consider dropping support for exynos phones. so im not gonna buy another exynos until sammy change its dev support. imo, xperia z has enough horse power for good user experience, and its very durable.
[Xperia Z General] cheltenham2004:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Well I have pre ordered. It from clove :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
How much? Release dates?
[Xperia Z General] cheltenham2004:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

£500 ish however definitive price not set but preorder now you get a free NFC Sony speaker I have one already and its fab
[Xperia Z General] Sckank:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Well I don't care much about the plastic Samsung but it doesn't bother me too much. But what DO bother me too much is TouchWiz! I really cannot stand it! Ok then, custom rom then ... Oh yeah that's right , Samsung dev support stops that part too ....
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

For such questions - the best answer is to wait till 14th March, then decide :)

sent from Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] :
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nQyOpixiU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Go to 3.00 and you'll see effectively the One has its own version of Stamina Mode, just Sony are marketing it and HTC ain't
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
HTC ain't marketing it because it's been a standard feature since JellyBean release i think. Had it on One X for quite a while now.
[Xperia Z General] BugXXXy:
Going for Xperia Z don't care how powerful the S4 is if it ain't waterproof suck it!
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Easy. The S4 gets announced on the 14th which is only a few days away. So wait. It's specifications are nearly for sure which puts it well above the Z and most others. If you follow how things have been going its always other phones catching up to the galaxy, not the other way around. Quad core or the octa one. A-15 @1.8-2GHz. The latest Mali GPU or the 544MP GPU. A 5inch 1080 Amoled. 2400-2600MAH battery. 16-64GB. 2GB DDR 3 ram. Not to mention Samsung cameras are almost always better. Even when they used Sony's sensor in the S3 it still did better in some ways due to optimizing. And for those whining about cheap plastic...polycarbinate is not cheap. Plastic has advantages. You don't like plastic then tough cookie, but it's High grade plastic. I take people into stores and ask them too compare the look and feel between S3 and others. Many like the look of S3 and none have said it looked or felt ugly or cheap. And for those complaining Samsung prevents development....We are all still running amazing custom roms aren't we? It might not be as immediately simply, but it's not bfe.

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There is also the Lenovo K900 with 1.8-2GHz Intel cpu with 544MP, 1080 IPS 3 5.5inch. Estimated 6.9mm thick with metal and polycarbonate finish. Looks amazing, but support is a worry.
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

If a phone comes to market after all the other ones then it probably won't be playing catch up, this is no surprise. Also I really dont agree that Samsung make the best cameras, with all the specs Samsung may be revealed with, it will be little more capable in real terms than even the s3 let alone the One or Z. Maybe you can top benchmarks and feel good about yourself though
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Agree 100%.

We can say that the Sony 'Togari' would be the best as it will come with 2560x1600 resolution on a 6.44" screen with 3 GB ram and Snapdragon's S800. But that would be meaningless as it is coming out in Q3, not this month or the next...
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

That resolution on a 6.44" is pure wastage of gpu power , even FHD resolution(342ppi) would be great.

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I didnt say best. But they usually are there or close to. And specifically to Sony which are the main two listed. And the Galaxy has usually been the bar setter in most cases upon release. And an increase from 1.4ghz a-9 w/Mali 400 to 1.8-2ghz a-15 w/544MP will most definitely make a noticeable difference in computing. Especially multi tasking, speed, and gaming.

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Thats a bit farther off and very rumorish still...and very doubtful.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

^^^

For those who are thinking , which would be the "Best":p

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

I think that's enough for now, samsung fanboys :)

Nobody here is interested to hear your samsung fanboy rants, hope you get that !!

You can continue the praise over @ SGS3 forum
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Its always a someone calling someone a fanboy based off of a couple shared words when someone is just stating some facts :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Why do you feel so much offended whenever i say something:confused: , is that because I have a "samsung" device in my signature:confused:

Like (Xperiax10.awesome) said "wait till 14th March" before comparing, at least compare on the basis of something official.

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
I was replying to Darkangels6sic6, not you.

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Facts. Yea right. :p

Your post was quite obviously a samsung love letter and not based on facts and unbiased reasoning.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Guys stop bashing each other - com'on we are Android Community (Sony/Samsung/HTC/LG).

Let everyone express their opinion, if you dont like it ignore !!

I am using Xperia Z & agree its a good phone but m accepting the fact that there is nothing exceptionally well in XZ (except for design n built) !!

Hold on your horses till 14th March..

sent from Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

IMO you should say that first to Samsung trolls who are not waiting for March 14th but stating since long that GS4 is simply much much superior. It gets ridiculous to see such posts all the time.

This is only a comparison thread, not a thread for samsung fanboys to preach. I don't see any Sony preaching here, only samsung preaching.
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

You werent replying. You just made an unrealistic statement randomly without being able to directly reply. And what they said was true? Why sound so jealous? I just simply made an obvious statement. Yet rather than have any useful imput all you can do is call people a fanboy. Like it or not/believe it or not Samsung is generally top dog. Does that mean they are the only good company out or that others dont rival or compare? Obviously not. But I simply pointed out the a much more featured and powerful flagship that will most likely be better will be released in a few days. Its the purpose and topic of the thread. Yet somehow you know better and this makes me a fanboy..
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Isnt your bet with me if samsung will bring exynos in the galaxy s4 still on?. Lol

. exactly^^

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Cool down bro, just ignore those post n make your life easy !! :)

Bring more news on Xperia Phablet ;)

sent from Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah. This is a thread on weather to get z or wait for s4....but people are only allowed to post about z and anyone who mentions the s4 is a fanboy and its off topic.... Sure makes sense and doesnt fanboyish or hypocritical at all
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
Fixed it for you :good:
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol. And you guys keep calling others the fanboys....the irony. :D

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Sony fans are nearly as bad as Crapple fans. I love all good tech. I think the Z is beautiful. I much favor the quality in their phones rather than the stereo and portable and media device with lack of quality. I come into a thread with the topic of Xperia Z or S4 or other phones of the year. I point out that the S4 is to be announced in a few days so its smart to wait and see and what the s4 is MOST likely to have. I also mention a third device. This immediately means all Sony fans must swarm in and ward of the evil doers that speak of other brands beside Sony because thats blasphemy.....lol....and we are the fanboys....lol ;)
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
great post.

Look at all the fan boys still defending the screen, despite all the comparisons showing how **** it is. Not only that, but people actually are actually attempting to justtify it:

"Oh its much more natural and better calibrated" (False, check GSM Arenas analysis)

"OH... Good thing it has horrid viewing angles, I don't want the person beside me seeing my screen" ( dont even know what to say to this lol :eek:)
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
I dont see the Xperia Z being able to compete with the Galaxy SIV, forget about sales. Besides the gorgeous design and the waterproof capability, the Xperia Z isnt anything special. I mean many users report lag and bad battery life, plus the screen isn't as great as its supposed to be considering it is a 1080P screen. I can't imagine the Galaxy SIV having a worse screen, worse battery life and a less powerful chipset than the XZ. Plus it will probably have lots of features ( if you wanna call them gimmicky that's fine but at least they try and some find them useful). I dont expect the Galaxy S IV to have a better build quality than the XZ nor being waterproof resistant.

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Lol yeah, same with the nexus 4 who clearly has a washed out screen when it is stock. But it has been fixed through kernels. Before everyone said how gorgeous the screen was, now people are saying how bad it was before the kernel fixes. People just wanna make them selves feel better about their purchase.
[Xperia Z General] wednesday13:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol its not about hardware and spec bumps. Oh my god hardwares so powerful 8 cores lol. I bet s4 dialer will open after 3 secs just like in s3.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
It isnt all about hardware and specs bump but i bet you wished your phone had 8 cores. You wouldn't mind it at all. S4 dialer taking 0.5 seconds isn't as bad as lag and bad battery life. No phones come out pefect so i'll take that con over lag.
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Thats such a silly missconception. Hardware is very important. You have to have strong hardware to develope good software for strong hardware. Even well optimized hardware is still limited if its inferior. A 2GHz A-15 even semi optimized is so much more powerful than 1.5GHz A-9s. Plus I highly doubt we are looking at non optimized. People who think that specs and benchmarks are useless are just naive as people who think they mean everything

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Thank you. Indeed. The claims of LCD being better because it's more neutral....ooooo aaaaaaa. Yeah Amoled is not cartoonish and most people like it's colors. For the few that don't its right in the settings to tune it down. It's black levels are unmatched. And the viewing angles are amazing. Then the arguments that nobody looks at their phones from an angle...... Lol we view our phones from many angles and positions all the time and show many people pictures and videos and web pages and such. Not to mention its sunlight legibility the best and low power consumption great.... But IPS is more neutral so its "better"
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Ohk guys, I am concluding that as of now Galaxy S4 is far better than Xperia Z !! ;)

Now please stop bashing each other atleast till 14th of Mar, its a matter of 4 days only !!

sent from Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I agree. The Z is beautiful, but yhe S4 is most likely to be better. Not 100% but most likely
[Xperia Z General] abdel12345:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I can't afford either so I don't really care lol

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rom: cm 9.1 official

kernel: Turbo v3.1
[Xperia Z General] force70:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Fanboy? What a juvenile thing to say,some of you guys need to get a life and grow up. Comparing sony and samsung is fine, they both make some nice handsets but some of you take it so personally...silly girls.

And yes my sig says i747 but i have had several xperias and will no doubt by the z if they make an lte version that works in canada..so there,dont say im bias to either.
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Calling people girls as insult is no better. In fact its on a worse level. As well and as sexuality.
[Xperia Z General] omnius1:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Samsung make cheap junk. Doesn't make it any simpler than that
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol. Comedians
[Xperia Z General] abdel12345:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Guys they are both good companies and make good phones. This thread was made to compare and discuss them not insult the brands and call them junk. So just state your opinions with good reasons don't just say it sucks for no reason.

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rom: cm 9.1 official

kernel: Turbo v3.1
[Xperia Z General] omnius1:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

OK. I won't buy either because neither company builds or supports their smartphones as well as Apple.
[Xperia Z General] abdel12345:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I like apple but I like android better because they are open source though apples market place is more preferable over play store because they get everything before us.

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rom: cm 9.1 official

kernel: Turbo v3.1
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Has everyone still missed the point about lies and bashing. Systemwide restriction to create an illusion of perfection "very flawed" illusion does not equal amazing support. Neither does releasing one phone a year flawed as heck surprisingly as to the support that's claimed or that you would expect out of one phone. Nor is waiting to release a third phone and then still waiting to release the next ios update after that in order to include native mms into whats supposedly the best phone. An os that is in some ways more restricted than 10 year old flip phones. That ditches Google maps for am excessively beta version that not only got authorities to call it life threatening, but it even made Apple admit they made a mistake.....Apple admitted! Or how iPhone 1-5 were so breakable you never even knew the first few were also gorrila glass. Called the 6th one the 5 and finally made it shatter proof by making it come out of brox scratched.....not to mention being a tyranic monopolostic company that is like a real life yet lame version of umbrella Corp that even scams millions from schools. That is more worried patenting the way their store is setup which looks more like every other mall store or a gorage sale....Then leaching and copying everyone. Jobs openly admitting he is shameless for stealing many great ideas for years. Then being billionair and making his own daughter live on welfare and treating people like dirt. Meanwhile billions of people think hes a great guy, they invented everything, and everything from them is the best. Or that their super restrictions truly equal perfection or overlook every imperfection and claim they dont exist.......yeah....what a better company
[Xperia Z General] omnius1:
holy over the top lol.

Anyway I was just yanking your chains about the Apple comment lol. The truth is, I'm just plain sick and tired of Samsung evangelists pretending the company has magical powers that make galaxy phones better than other android phones that aren't advertised as heavily, when they just AREN'T any better or worse at all. Samsung evangelists spend more time bashing Sony, LG, HTC, Motorola than the all of the Apple iPhone fanboys ever did. And they don't have any grounds to be that way. I've seen fanatical door to door bible thumpers who are more rational than the comments I see posted under non-Samsung reviews by Sammy evangelists.
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

All sides have trolls in mass amounts to say the least. Any if you truly believe that then you obviously have not spent much time with Sony trolls and Apple trolls. Look at the past few pages. Topic"Samsung and sony". Samsung gets brought up....Sony trolls swarm in repeatedly claiming Samsung fanboys preeching...but who are the ones that keep flinging name calling and trash talking? Im sure ealier on in the thread many, but its only been but hurt Sony fans on every page ive been on scapegoating their fanboyism. And everyone has their preferences and. The world is better that way, but in a nut shell the galaxy phone does tend to have the broader specs or generaly better. Thats simple fact. It doesnt mean that other phones dont have advantages over them or that companis cant make better phones. Its the general truth. I say this as a tech lover not a blind Samsung fan. There are other phones I love for different reasons
[Xperia Z General] force70:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

As they say....If the shoe fits......

And none of my.comments are.directed toward you, you have made some sensible and true statements here which i happen to agree with my friend.