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[Xperia Z General] :
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-- someone correct me if I am wrong]

I don't think A15 is the instruction set. ARMv7 or the recent ARMv8 are the instruction set architectures. Whereas A9 or A15 are processor architectures.

Qualcomm Krait architecture can't be directly compared to Cortex-A or Cortex-A50 family. They are independent of ARM family of processor cores. This is similar to what Apple is doing with it's 'Swift' custom core. They are designed to run same ARMv7 instruction sets, but has different architecture compared to Cortex-family.

Krait is the CPU, Snapdragon is the brand of the Qualcomm SoC. Their next-gen is Krait 300/400. Paired with Adreno GPU, this core makes up the Snapdragon 600 and 800 SoC.

Krait 300 + Adreno 320 = Snapdragon 600

Krait 400 + Adreno 330 = Snapdragon 800

http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/2013/01/07/snapdragon-800-series-and-600-processors-unveiled

As for Exynos 'Octa' (brilliant marketing IMO), it's not true that all cores can't be used simultaneously.

All cores working.

From here: http://www.arm.com/files/downloads/big.LITTLE_Final.pdf

Cortex-A15 and Cortex-A7 is fully coherent through CCI-400 another logical use-model is to allow both Cortex-A15 and Cortex-A7 to be powered on and simultaneously executing code. This is termed big.LITTLE MP, which is essentially Heterogeneous MultiProcessing.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

:rolleyes: I was thinking the same :thumbup:

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[Xperia Z General] hurricane21:
Would definitely get the Xperia Z, loving the design, not like Samsung, their design is always boring and HTC Butterfly's design is a crap!
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
Bleh. I confuse names like an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

EDIT: Note however that the Krait cores of all generations are completely compatible with the with the ARMv8/Cortex-A15 architecture, much like Intel and AMD CPUs (once you match up the extensions).

I didn't notice that when I saw the various announcements. Very interesting.
[Xperia Z General] :
Yes, it can use all cores simultaneously if threads 'demand'.

Here's a slide about power efficiency compared to A15 (like Exynos 5250):
[Xperia Z General] jameski182:
Wait for the official announcement of gs4 so you can compare the two device. I also like the design of Xperia Z it is so sexy and elegant looking device.
[Xperia Z General] skkitzopath:
:D

:)

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:laugh:
[Xperia Z General] kyogiro:
Ok, but whatever the technology used here for the screen, the colors still look awful (washed out) against my Mi2 IPS display or iPhone 4/5.
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Just reposted this here, since I think that there are more people watching this topic.

I find it a bit hard to believe that the phone recorded this, but if it did....

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:good:
[Xperia Z General] s-X-s:
All parts after the 4th core lol :p.... sorry for late reply..
[Xperia Z General] :
No freakin' way. It looks too good for "any" mobile phone. The focusing is too good like a phase detection AF system. A very good macro lens was used. I never saw video recording quality of XZ, but I will be very pleasantly surprised if it's anywhere near this quality. I have never seen such DOF in any mobile device. I very much doubt it, but lets wait for reviews. For now, I think it's fake.
[Xperia Z General] edyboy:
As much as I like design of Xperia Z and the weather proofing on it, I will pass on this phone. Biggest disappointment is the most important feature on a phone, the screen display. I think this is common on all Sony phones. I've seen many phones from top manufacturer at my work place, compare them side by side: Arc S, Xperia S, Xperia Ray, HTC OneX, S2/S3, note1/2, iphone 4/4s/5 and HTC Butterfly. Sony's display pales in comparison and I don't think it will change on the Z. Display has poor contrast ratio, lack of vibrant colors and the weakest viewing angles. Some would say that they always look on their phone straight and viewing angles is not that important however that's just one part of the the display disappointments. I personally hate phones with weak viewing angles because there are instance that I cannot look on my phone straight like it is on desk and a little tilt on the phone would make the color look more washed out than it is. For the LCD technology I think iphone4/4s/5, OneX and Butterfly has the nicest viewing pleasure and I wonder why Sony can't make their screen at least on par on this older phones. Design and weather proofing is important but I will be looking at my phone display like 98% of the time I have it. I'm hoping HTC M7 with Solux Display would be great. What is Solux display? I have no idea. Marketing gimmick or not as long as the display will be superior.

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Don't eat your heart out. I cannot post an external link at the moment but you can search the keywords on YouTube:

Shooting Insects with Xperia Z ,13MP, 1080p, Phone Camera Test

Yes, it was taken by Xperia Z but using an external Macro Lens.
[Xperia Z General] jb8503:
Love this phone so much
[Xperia Z General] shadym1lkman:
find me a card, ill let you know, i havent seen a mXC yet in that size. id appreciate it as its still my primary device.
[Xperia Z General] wednesday13:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

So will this octa core processor make the phone dialer open instantly? :P
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Yes faster than the speed of light. :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] sachinaik:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

The only way to make it possible is to have lot of RAM (2GB) and have SANE memory management (sane OOM killer) or lock it in memory.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
+1 to this. Android doesn't need more CPU for processing what it needs is memory(RAM). Android is java and java needs memory more than CPU. On normal conditions android just run on a single core to in an average of 900mhz with basic operations but is stuck with just a plain 100mb+ memory available on all instances. Now like I said unless I would see an unreal engine game on any android devices I won't need more CPU. Just RAM.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Both actually. Android is made with extreme versatility in mind and whether you want it or not that leads to inevitable slowdowns. Compatibility checks, permissions checking, converting bytecode to machine code, checking what apps can handle what content, ... All that universal stuff that has to check things, especially if those things can change depending on what the user installs will make things take longer. It's also one of the nicest things about Android and very good from a coding perspective since it allows you to replace almost any element of the OS with relative ease.
[Xperia Z General] Codrea:
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Is xperia z view angle is much worse than samsung galaxy nexus or s3?
[Xperia Z General] Di HarD:
The thing i like in Xperia Z - photoes... i ve never seen such photos made by phone
[Xperia Z General] Codrea:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

There is some sample camera photo if you search this thread.

Just google xperia z and what a mother of price 529 £.
[Xperia Z General] Brilliant Dev:
thanks
[Xperia Z General] brambizimski:
I'm wondering how they will even be able to power an octa core properly in a mobile phone, as in duration. I could be completely wrong though.
[Xperia Z General] sighduck:
Actually the viewing angle is better than the S3.

youtu.be/H-XdtQf13tc

Watch that video, I can't include links since this is just my first post, but in that video you can see the XZ has a better viewing angle than the S3.
[Xperia Z General] AuToFluXx:
Awesome Xperia

Love this Phone and have Awesome Features
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

All 8 cores wont consume high power four cores will be for performance and 4 for low performance and power saving

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[Xperia Z General] :
^^ Not directed at you, but a general thought ^^

If 'they' can do same for quad core or dual core, why should it be any different for octa core? What is this fascination of people with octa cores? being technically-aware people, is it that hard to imagine that it's part of normal evolution? nobody questioned when tons of mere quad core phones are being sold right now. even XZ is a quad core phone. so what's this paranoia regarding octa core? if quad-core phones are efficient, what makes people believe that anything above quad core is inefficient?
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Plus Samsung will probably stuff a 3000mAh battery in it anyway. They don't compromise there, I'll give them that.
[Xperia Z General] alhkam:
S4 :good::good:
[Xperia Z General] crward:
Say whatttt?

The S3 is not the most powerful device out, both the LG Optimus G and the Droid DNA are significantly better then the S3. If Sony can market better then them then they can hold the top spot for awhile, it really urkes my nerves hearing people say the S3 is the best device out and that it's the only thing to compete with.
[Xperia Z General] marrzie:
S3 is power
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

http://digital.sina.com.hk/news/-7-1335092/1.html

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

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anyone can tell me what this thread is:D? xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
Indeed. If you can stay within the bounds of RAM, the oooold Nexus S is more than capable enough. Shame that Android programs are all RAM-hungry, bloated blobs. Mainly because of the VM overheads.

A lot of these things can be disabled, and they aren't that expensive computation-wise either these days, especially with hardware crypto engines and whatnot to accelerate things. As for modularity, its really nothing new: Desktop Linux has been enjoying that for years with the same backend (X11/X.org) running any combination of Desktop Environments by choosing at logon time, using any combination of libraries and toolkits (I run KDE with a few GTK+/GNOME programs), mainly because dbus (available on Android iirc) lets pretty much everything talk with pretty much everything else.

From what I read lots of people are complaining about it from badly angled videos or confusing more accurate colours with undersaturation (protip nearly all phones on the market are oversaturated since they extend sRGB colourspace into wide-gamut, against normal rules).
[Xperia Z General] armanderli:
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The phones you are mentioning are nowhere to be found in Europe and elsewhere...you know that! LG optimus G will be available in France around March April 2013 for instance, at that time the SGS4 will be one month away from global shipping...So indeed for most people the King is SGS3 and will be SGS4 soon...sorry Sony

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[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
For most people, yes. But there are thousands of those who are sick with Samsung's quality and constant bricking problems. Look at what happened to S2, Note 1 & 2 and S3 - each and every one of them susceptible to either brickbug or sudden death due to defective emmc chips. And now the same thing is happening with Samsung's laptops with Windows 8 firmware.

So what i'm trying to say is that Samsung can introduce 16 core cpu with 8gb of ram - and i will still choose Sony, or HTC or whatever. No more Samsung for me. You can't release 4 devices across 3 generations all sharing same unresolved issues and bricking by themselves randomly. Quality and peace of mind is more important to me right now than specs - i'm sick of worrying if my S2/Note1/2 will just die on me, and since TouchWiz is the worst thing that has ever happened to Android i can't rely on warranty due to custom roms.

But that's just my opinion. After months of worrying about my S2 and Note brickbug, now with Note 2 i have to worry about sudden death which is even worse.... Not trying to bash Samsung or anything - i'm just really disappointed with it and need a change.
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
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Yes, and then exynos security loophole. Samsung is not good choice for AOSP lovers, S3 PA maintainer is my friend, he said he's tired of spending all his time on just making this ROM work. While all his team mates are innovating.
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
I used to have a GS2 before switching to a Galaxy Nexus and I have to say that I liked the phone but the Nexus was a totally different story.

First. and foremost I hate the physical button on Samsung phones. There is just no need for it.

Second thing is the order of back and menu button. Why does Samsung always have to do things their own way?

Third thing is the looks. I liked GS2 but I don't like the oblique shapes of the GS3 and GN2.

Four. GS4 is supposed to be released in May. Now, do you really wanna wait another 3-4 months before you get your hands on a top specced phone in 2013. ( well, I don't)

Five. I hate TouchWiz. The icons are an uglier copy from iOS and the widgets look horrible. So the first thing I always do on Sammy phones is change the launcher asap. Sony's launcher on the other hand is very clean and simple and looks good. The widgets (especially the photo frame widget) are very nice as well.

Six. Build quality. To be honest i don't mind the plastics as my phone always lands in a case with a screen protector anyways. But it would be kinda nice to get a premium look for a premium price.

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A nice Xperia Z review has just popped up on www stuff tv/review/sony-xperia-z

Looks like its an all round winner :)
[Xperia Z General] Unexist6969:
How about the Xperia 530X aka Xperia SP? S4 Pro Qualcomm MSM8960T Duelcore 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 gpu 4'' 720P, that will have beast gpu performance =P
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
Xperia Z vs Galaxy s3

Yet another good review that just appeared online. Check out Xperia Z vs. Galaxy S3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KFAjzSE6c6E#!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Thanks for sharing this review. Honestly, im not impressed, except for the build quality. Other than that the screen looks really washed out, battery life isnt ground breaking too. Im not sure this device will be able to compete throughout the year. Its definitely a decent (i should say good ) Phone, but its 1080p display doesnt look that impressive, keeping in mind that everybody else is coming with a 1080p display as well. Id like toget my hands on one for real judgment.
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Lets not hope you're basing your opinion based on what you seen on video's. In the end the device will always feel/seem different once you play with it yourself.

You say that the battery life isn't ground breaking, but based on what? No one even did a test to see how the battery would hold up.

2300+ mAH isn't much I know, but capacity isn't everything. In the end when a device lasts for a day I'd say we shouldn't complain, most of us charge their phones over night anyways, whether the battery is empty or not.

The only bad thing for me is the non-removable battery, but since the thing is waterproof I can understand it. (Don't know if the ZL has a removable battery though)
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
I for one was a samsung fan until recently I have had the GS1/2/3, GN2 and Wave 1 in recent years, first up they are boring phones but I was a samung fan an though each time something will be better until I got the GN2 and thought i give up.

Camera quality indoors on GS2/3/GN2 all were awful, sound recording from video was rubbish and as for audio all were lacking decent bass. WIth GS3/GN2 I suffered numerous dropped calls, or phone going dead or constant freezing. The GN2 was the final straw for me, boring boring boring phone. For phones that are supposed to be so popular I struggled to sell my GS3/GH2 but yet I had no issues with selling MY HOX and MY Xperia T. I will stick with sony and htc from now on. I no longer see samsung as desirable.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Unfortunately, it doesn't. In both phones battery will be covered by 24 months warranty though.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

24 months? Thats the life of a phone before it gets outdated these days :D

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anyone can tell me what this thread is:D? xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

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Viewing angles are not great though (reviewer said that)

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[Xperia Z General] imobileface:
the viewing angle is better than the S3
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Seriously? Washed out? Tell me where in that video the screen looks washed out. Sure it isn't your PC monitor, those things tend to suck really hard.

On the software side (battery life etc), this handset Clove uses for their reviews has very early (built in october 2012 and still running 4.1.1) debug software. It has a lot of testing and logging on and will be a lot slower and consume more power than newer handsets. That firmware doesn't even include Stamina Mode yet. Sony has improved a lot since. Even since CES they've done one or two updates for the Xperia Z and it's not even out.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

U kidding me brw , comparing with s3? (720p screen ) it means that s3 is upto the mark , thats why you are comparing:D

I dont expect s3 to outperform this one at least in terms of screen, resolution is way higher (or upcoming ones) I want to see how it does against other 1080p phones

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:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click some regret
[Xperia Z General] Ariozo:
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Sounds like you had bad luck on your samsung devices. I am not a Samsung Fanboy, even if my Note2 is my personal daily device i love. Got most phones worth to have and still there is no "100%" mobile..:)

Camera and sound you had problem with, must say Samsung maybe is not on top but always doing Ok atleast. And on Note2 i have very good sound and perfekt talk quality.

Sony is the only brand i always skip tho, slow on updates and many times hand out devices with already old os. But i hope this Xperia Z will change that, mine is on the way same day they get it here. And will be fun trying it out... but not to long befor we can see a new samsung and htc and that will be fun see how it will stand against them. :)

Lumia 920 do have a nice Camera but i cant stand wp8..:)

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[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Obviously. AMOLED screens have superior viewing angles simply because they do not use backlight. No LCD screen will match AMOLED's viewing angles. That doesn't mean they're worse.

But honestly, i've been looking at viewing angles complaints for years now and i still don't understand why people need 150+ degrees in their phones - do we really look at our phones like that ?

About the battery - yes, it's covered under warranty, 24 months with free replacement service. Confirmed by Sony Centre.
[Xperia Z General] Unexist6969:
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Sony slow on updates comparing to samsung? U must be kidding? Xperia s and I believe E runs linux 3.4 kernel, samsung is damn slow on updates, and they don't provide important sources.. And then there are things like brickbug, mem security hole.

I agree hardware is nice, but software support is sh*t
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs All Other Phones - Don't start new threads

^^^^

Its not that 150º + in the video it appeared washed out and some said that it was due to bad viewing angle

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

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[Xperia Z General] Ariozo:
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Samsung is not flash gordon on updates..:)

But if you look back Sony they have give older ver. on their device and on the box or on the net it say will get "x" ver. soon..

But that "soon" often takes a while, and some other brands atleast chip their new device with a quite new os. (Ofc. not all brands)

But i am with you on Samsung also is slow, but better this days then befor on updates.

Buy looks like the Z will get a quite nice and up to date Android Ver. or i hope atleast..:)

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[Xperia Z General] bertapeti:
Xperia Z, god :)
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Exactly!! Coming from the S2 that doesn't even have a 720p screen to the xperia Z which is a full HD phone at 441 ppi @ 5' i mean c'mon? some people never get enough, i tested the device (i work for vodafone) and OH BOY! the screen is so amazing and clear!
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
I also don't understand this viewing angle manure because what normal person looks at their phone from the side:confused::rolleyes:, I can understand if they spoke about sunlight eligibility but side viewing angles. I am sorry that is just manure when I have my phone I am looking at the screen dead on.
[Xperia Z General] :
Any

mobile device (probably apart from 808) will have bad picture quality in challenging light. Dropped calls are bad and cause for real concern. But what I find it tough to understand is that why would you go through 5 consecutive Samsung phones even when all of them are going dead or constant freezing? Myself as a Samsung customer will never tolerate that. Forget about 5 phones, I won't even tolerate that for a single phone. If you are concerned about audio, there is no better than iPhone. I don't recall any Sony or HTC device sounding better than iphone (right?)..

Boring phones? Yea, I find 99.73% of all phones are boring. Either you get a 808 or a Vertu. Because everything else is same boring stuff. Nothing about latest XZ or M7 makes them more interesting than any other device in market. An argument could be made that they all are same boring design and same boring software.
[Xperia Z General] Unexist6969:
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Iphone might have nice audio quality, but u can only set (8?) presets..

I bet wolfson audio + noozy player/eq is probably the best u can get.
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
Well I didnt know each device was going to have its problems until I actually had the devices. Also regarding the challenging light situation, i have you know I have tried the xperia s and t and htc one x at the same angles and they all produce better images. The images on the s3/note 2 were just washed a blurry. Anyway, I am not getting into a debate about it whats done is done now and I am not again going back to samsung.