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[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
I agree.

Samsung kept the terrible looking plastic design. What a fail company.

They must be copying Apple's business plan now too, release the same **** every year and expect to sell millions.

Another lawsuit coming LOL
[Xperia Z General] vivftp:
Ahh, the cycle of technology. Sony brings out the Z and ZL, a couple of months later Samsung brings out the GS4, then a couple of months after that Sony will bring out the phablet and soon afterwards the 2H flagship. It's a never ending cycle :)
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Wrong imo. If you have a S3 would you add an extra £200/250 to upgrade to a S4!? I don't think so...not even adding £100 for that. Especially not for an extra bit of speed, 1gb ram, 1080p screen and a few megapixels more. Most of the features will be ported over anyways so people that are happy with the S3 will indeed keep it.

HTC One are winning NEW customers from different phone markets. Samsung won't be winning anyone new with this. FACT.
[Xperia Z General] Aamirx27:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Agreed.. M7 has got everything design brains beauty hardware and what not..
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Only time will tell, I know ppl always go for latest devices, when millions of ppl can upgrade to iFail 5 from iFail 4/4s then there will no surprise when ppl upgrade to S4 from S3 (which is 1 year old now).

I not very positive on HTC One now - they delayed the release as well.
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
iPhone is different as they release one phone only, once per year. Android on the other hand have many manufacturers and therefore more flagships per year. If a current S3 owner is due an upgrade they have a choice of many i.e HTC, Sony, Moto or Google. They simply will not be in a rush to upgrade to a device that is almost identical with a few upgrades on the inside. Unless of course they can get the upgrade without any cost or increase in tariff price...

I am in the same boat. I recently sold my S3 due to my contract coming to an end, I upgraded to the XZ which i didn't like and sold. Now I am back at the beginning, I can choose any phone and the S4 is not appealing to me because it would feel like the S3 which i had. Nothing new, nothing special.
[Xperia Z General] arpith.fbi:
Hmmm...so S4 is finally out..but it is quite disappointing...It is just a "update" to S3...they had full one year to work on the design..but they went with the same plastic to maximize their profit.

Sony and HTC are way ahead in design. Xperia Z and HTC one will be a huge hit after looking at s4.

But still S4 will be a hit only coz of its brand name..ppl will just buy it as ppl buy apple products without even thinking..

Xperia Z is going quite strong atleast in India. Sony sales manager said it has already sold 60% of total stocks allotted to India :)
[Xperia Z General] oranglewat:
I remember pretty vividly Samsung made fun of iPhone 4s users how people won't notice that they've upgraded due to how the hardware looking the same.
[Xperia Z General] android_geek_here:
I'd like to know if NFC and WIFI DIRECT work in HTC One as they should?

Sent from my HTC One X
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Apple gonna sue Samsung for using their "name" iphone "4S" in reverse order Galaxy "S4" :D

Samsung Galaxy S IV key specifications

5-inch full-HD (1080x1920) Super AMOLED display (441 ppi)

1.9GHz quad-core processor/ 1.6GHz octa-core processor (Depending upon region)

2GB RAM

16/32/64 GB Storage (expandable by 64GB via microSD slot)

13-megapixel rear camera, 2-megapixel front camera

Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, GPS/ GLONASS, NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, IR LED, MHL 2.0

Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)

2,600 mAh battery

136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9mm, 130gm

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
I think it is safe to say that the Galaxy S IV will destroy the Xperia z. The Xperia Z does have a better build quality though.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
:silly:
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
I wonder what kind of bug the Galaxy SIV will ship with?

They've already covered EMMC in the note and the SDS in the S3 & note 2. Maybe something which fries the processor ? :silly:
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
But not with a washed out screen atleast:D

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Ah, yes. I've always been a fan of colours more 'real' than those in real life :p
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Launch day delusion syndrome
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
I saw news about S4 and I decided to buy Xperia Z :)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Yeah I like natural colors too,that is why I use perseus kernel (which has calibrated settings for display) but when you compare that with xz it still appears a bit washed ,so I think it is more washed out than natural display but again if you have the unit with the better display then I don't have complaints:)

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
I think the display is almost like they are design for the Bravia Engine 2 on, except its not always on.
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
CONCLUSION

Buy Xperia Z - if you believe in Style with sufficient power.

Buy Galaxy S4 - if you want power house with Galaxy Signature design

Buy HTC One - if you want better sound, better display + Style << Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] shakalek:
I follow every new mobile news. I appreciate we get a chance to pick from so many good phones on the market. I've decided to go with Xperia Z simply because the design. S4 iP5 and others offer the same performance, sound etc. Design is what made me to buy XZ. I don't hate others, I like that we have them on the market as it makes others to push harder and the outcome of this is what makes customer happy. I'll always judge phones by design and everyday performance. (Even if the first thing i do is flashing custom rom).
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
My conclusion:

XPERIA Z- dissapointment.. I love sony.. I have two bravia..ps3, ps2 and an old psp.. all of there are awesome devices.. but xperia z was a fail for me though it looks good

Cons- Sony took a glass slab ( sexy though). Put in a poor screen, software, throttling processor, laggy software, dumb speakers, not so good dac, etc and smacked in water proof thing and called it their flagship.. sorry, with all the display tech and hardware tech they make, this is a half baked effort by them...

Pros-sd slot and good development might follow though..and it is stil sexy looking when the screen is off.lol

GALAXY S4- galaxy name and power

Cons- same design which is the least good looking as the other two.. which might not be impressive to a lot of s3 users.. some software gimmicks which are impressive but might not impress everyone.. plasticky feel

Pros- More power.. removable battery and sd slot.. very bright and awesome screen ( might not be liked by all though).. galaxy brand name.. development second to xperia...

HTC ONE- beautiful, unibody aluminium

Cons- no sd card slot..no removable battery.. Soff is a pain in the ass.. bright light photos may not be so good as the other two

Pros- impressive aluminium design. Two loud front speakers..awesome screen.. their battery has proven better.. likely the most non laggiest compared to the other two.. better low light photos

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[Xperia Z General] Matarese171:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Due an upgrade this April and really like the look of this phone. Waterproof is a big thing for me already lost a few phones over the years to an unfortunate dunk.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Samsung devices are more popular, therefore more devs are working on them.
[Xperia Z General] Hyperdoggy:
Is up to the people risk their features. Wait for what potentially would be a faster/slimmer phone but at the same time with worst build quality with another generation of cheap plastic phone.

Personally, i see nothing lacking in the Xperia Z/ZL aside from a weaker screen than the DNA from what it looks like.
[Xperia Z General] AgentCherryColla:
You could always wait for the newer device to come out. What's stopping you from getting the Note 3? Just get a phone you'll enjoy. This phone being so awesome, it will get devs. You'll have your basic CM, AOKP, PA, etc. Most dev forums have the same ROMS, but with minor tweaks. If you considering this phone, then just get it.
[Xperia Z General] suadion:
At first the Z really had me excited but after learning that the flap for the headphone jack is glass and isn't storable but just dangles on a hinge, I don't know. Sounds pretty fragile, plus of course fears over the battery longevity and non-replaceability...

The waterproof feature is very nice still though. But usually when I drop my phone it's due to my headphones' cable causing unexpected forces... so in critical situations it usually still wouldn't be waterproof [for me]. Anyway. Can still buy the Z if the S4 turns out to be too big of a disappointment (though a 1080p OLED screen is promising to say the least. I heard power consumption of OLED doesn't rise as fast with increase in resolution as with LCD? Not sure if true though)

Can't stand TouchWiz though, after having used CM10.1 on my i9100 for months now [running pretty much flawlessly].
[Xperia Z General] Entropy512:
Sammobile? Their track record for accuracy is utter and complete ****. Seriously, don't ever believe anything you read at Sammobile.

You know, the site that after one tweet from SamsungExynos proclaimed to all, "YAY WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING! ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED!!!"?

Not really. Exynos5 "Octa" is going to have major differences from the Exynos 5 dual. Don't expect the N10 to actually get opensource developers that much... Look at how many differences there were/are between 4210 and 4412... 5 Dual to 5 "Octa" will be SIGNIFICANTLY more different.

Galaxy Nexus was Google software.

So your claim that Samsung is good at software is based on a bunch of broken useless gimmicks? That doesn't show skill at software, that shows skill at marketing. They suck at software - look at I9100 ICS, where the cpufreq driver was a steaming broken pile of crap. How about the fact that many Note2 firmwares hold a permanent wakelock if you boot it when in vibrate mode?

Sony doesn't have a better UI than Touchwizz? Seriously? You must never have actually used Touchwizz. I have... It's ugly as sin. It's a half-assed hodgepodge of Gingerbread and ICS on the I9100, and on newer devices, I call it ToiletROM. (Funny, it's STILL full of Gingerbread UI elements... Also, if your sound engineers primary concern is "avoiding sounding like a toilet" then probably your approach is ALL WRONG. They completely failed at not sounding like a toilet...) Sony's UI is clean and elegant... It's not the revolting mess of Touchwizz.
[Xperia Z General] Fasty12:
Tmobile

Will this work on tmobile if i buy it unlocked from a UK retailer?
[Xperia Z General] nikufellow:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

one thing is sure though sammy will come up with something topping the benchmark sheets to fool so called 'geeky' reviewers on their next big plastic cr*plaxy release and easily sell it in millions .

why fix it if it ain't broken ?
[Xperia Z General] :
http://www.arm.com/files/downloads/big.LITTLE_Final.pdf

Page # 4, last paragraph. Read carefully.
[Xperia Z General] jauger:
If this thing gets a US release it will be the one that makes me leave HTC for good...........
[Xperia Z General] Entropy512:
"However, to reduce software complexity in the big.LITTLE task migration use model it is recommended that the same number of cores be implemented in the Cortex-A15 cluster and Cortex-A7 cluster."

In short, the only advantage of the Exynos 5 Octa's 4+4 architecture over NVidia's 4+1 is throwing hardware (which you have to pay for) resources into a device as a workaround for Samsung's software quality shortcomings.

We are entering an era where software optimization is as important as, if not more important than, hardware horsepower. Jellybean on the Galaxy Nexus (dual 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9) vs. the international Galaxy S3 (Quad 1.4 GHz Cortex-A9) is a perfect example... Despite the massive advantage in horsepower held by the GS3, nearly everyone I've talked to finds the GNex to deliver a UI interface superior in its consistent responsiveness. You can be guaranteed that with Exynos 5 "Octa", you will receive poorly optimized software that will negate nearly any advantages the hardware might provide.
[Xperia Z General] Maroon Mushroom:
I think the bigger thing to watch will be Motorola's X Phone. Even if it isn't an official nexus device
[Xperia Z General] Jiyeon90:
I was about to buy the SG3 but I went for the xperia acro s instead and I have never been happier with a phone, I picked the xperia because of 2 reasons, the sg3 looked ugly and feelt cheap and I could easily see pixels on the screen when reading text, on the acro s its like pixels dont exist, the screen is really gorgeous especially when watching pics or HD videos, it even makes my iphone 4 look like trash in terms of colors and sharpness, the camera is superb and of course this phone is also waterproof, which is a super cool feature, its reall fun to see people's reactions when you are swimming in the lake and suddently you take your phone out of your pocket to answer a call :laugh:

so my next phone will definitely be the Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Yes, for the third time(2 other ppl pointed this out), I know the Gnexus software is from Google, I was saying that it still is a Samsung phone as it was a reply to someone who said everything that Samsung touches is crap while praising the Gnexus, a Samsung phone.

Lol, I used the galaxy s1, galaxy s2, galaxy note 1, galaxy s3 and note 2, I have used touchwiz trust me. Isn't the UI a matter of preference? I think touchwiz works really well, look at the note 2. You calling Samsung features gimmicky, funny cause the xperia Z has borrowed a lot of them from Samsung (I suggest watching some of the vids from CES). Past versions of touchwiz weren't that great, and yes Samsung messed up the I9100 ICS update but look at touchwiz nature UX, I don't think its that far off from stock android and it adds a sh*t load of features.

By the way, the same I9100 is still getting strong support from devs and just started to receive jelly bean. Where are the Sony phones that came out at the same time as the I9100? And it looks like you're supporting a couple of Samsung devices. I'm confused :confused:
[Xperia Z General] :
so? what do you want me to do? get a Nokia 1100? i didn't ask you for advise.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

I'm sorry but this is total BS
[Xperia Z General] bigdad1963:
I will never ever ever buy a phone with onscreen keys.

Options:

(1) Permanent ugly as sin black bar taking up screen space.

(2) Tapping the screen to activate the button, then tapping the button to do get the desired action (sometimes with a little bonus screen redraw)

or...

(3) Just tapping the always ready button

I don't give a crap if I can't get a my little pony theme on my buttons, just leave my screen alone! And before anyone starts whining about flexibility, we all know that buttons can be remapped, or my favorite, have specific things assigned to long presses. I don't like the hassle of depressing my GS3 home button, but the dissapearing capacitive buttons are a thing of beauty. Nothing is cleaner or more logical.
[Xperia Z General] brangalm:
Ever heard of gestures?

GMD gesture control = best of both worlds. Turn off on-screen buttons then just use gestures to navigate. With the ZL, this will be sick, as the bezel is so thin; the whole face of the phone will be content.
[Xperia Z General] Tomatoes8:
LOL This is amazing. I thought Apple and HTC fan boys were bad. We have a new winner I believe. Sony fan boys. Although I should have realized how bad they are from all the PS3 fans in denial about the Xbox 360 versions usually being superior.

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I mean how do you go from this

"However, to reduce software complexity in the big.LITTLE task migration use model it is recommended that the same number of cores be implemented in the Cortex-A15 cluster and Cortex-A7 cluster."

to this

In short, the only advantage of the Exynos 5 Octa's 4+4 architecture over NVidia's 4+1 is throwing hardware (which you have to pay for) resources into a device as a workaround for Samsung's software quality shortcomings.

Talk about the worst summary skills I have ever seen in my life. How did you pass English 11/12 in high school?

That ARM article just said that it is RECOMMENDED to use the same number of cores for the power saving core(s) to avoid unnecessary complications when switching between cores. It has nothing to do with the worst and most inaccurate summary I have ever seen that somehow ignored the whole point of the article and included Samsung software when talking about ARM hardware architecture. What?! LOL Why would you want more software complexities of the 4+1 when you can just use the 4+4 to avoid these complications and actually concentrate on making the software good rather than making sure the software is compatible with your architecture. Ridiculous. In your own words, if software optimization is the be all and end all like you say it is, then 4+4 has a HUGE advantage over 4+1 because it is just that much easier to code software for.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Lol dont even go there bud, I'm defending Samsung here but I'm a 100 billion percent Sony PlayStation fanboy :p
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
So the SGS4 is supposed to have a 1.9ghz S600.

S600 has some better RAM management(or however you call that), better production = lower energy drain, and small architecture changes.

But seems like Adreno 320 in HTC one is also getting kinda hot.

So Xperia Z might not fall as much behind..

btw, Samsung Erase feature is also working via Adreno 320 ? might be portable ?
[Xperia Z General] ascariss:
edit, apparently gsmarena was wrong and it is the S500.
[Xperia Z General] stiffi2011:
IMO the S4 announcement was very boring. All the new features seem like a waste for a phone. Sort of like the motion features on the S3 they are mostly just gimmicks. I don't see how any of the features on either phone are better than A. Using your finger, and B. just pressing a button.

I have the Note 2 now and even the S-pen (while I know is useful for some) became a gimmick for me after the 1st week. For me typing on the keyboard is much better than trying to get the handwriting recognition to read my chicken scratch. I bought the Note 2 simply for the larger screen.

So, the search continues. At this point for me, its all about price. I can't see spending the unlocked price for the Z or the ZL. If they were in the range of $500 it would be a no brainer for me. The waterproof and dust proof design coupled with the other features make it a winner in my mind. At $700, however, I get more swayed by other "key" features in the competitors. The HTC One (if it ever becomes available) with the Ultraipixels, the Note 2 with it's giant battery.

I think a real darkhorse could be the Huawei D2. Its got the 5 inch screen a decent enough 13 MP camera and is also water and dust proof. I'm waiting for some stateside availability to see the real prices.
[Xperia Z General] Ariozo:
Sv: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new threads

Pros and cons for all devices, but the design for me was a huge fail on S4. Did know they should follow their Line but was hopping for some more interesting design.

And all crap they put into TW, not many % will even use it.

Will try it out ofc. but think HTC and Sony is the winners right now for nice designs.

Even if many have bad things to say about Sony and the screen and so on.. It fit quite alot off folks.

For me Sony win just to be durable, not many other can hold for my use on the bikes.(Dirt/water)

But if you don't need that durability then I should say design wise and even hardware HTC looks more interesting than S4..

And was anti the Z when I first got it, but now i have learn to like it.

Battery doing Ok and screen I have no problem with. And camera works good to when out in the wild..:)

Just my opinion tho, and all think different. :)

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[Xperia Z General] Codrea:
Samsung always make a useless feauture :p

Smart stay, direct call bla2 all useless.

Htc boss say samsul spend more money in marketing than innovation :D

Fak samsul
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
S4 does not have a pentile screen

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6kDYHjDFgno&desktop_uri=/watch?v=6kDYHjDFgno

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Am I the only one who thinks that S4 announcement was cheesy and childish ? I mean what's with all those theatrical bits ? It was awful.

Anyway, it's good they went with S3's design - many people love it and it works for Samsung's customers. For me personally, there's nothing interesting about it as I don't care about faster CPU at the moment, S4 Pro is enough for now, I find most of their software features useless ( shot & sound ? really ? ) and I really don't like the design myself - but it looks like a pretty good phone - would probably say even better than HTC One, and I don't think iPhone 5S will even come close to S4.

For those who like Samsung's phones - it certainly wasn't disappointing launch ( despite its silly form )
[Xperia Z General] Darkangels6sic6:
So buying what could be the most advanced is only sheeping to a brand, but buying others cause you think its prettier makes all the difference in brains and the device usability?

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There is a lot more to it than that. Its the whole idiocy behind the entire sheep eco system. Not just a flagship sticking to a design

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Lol. Sounding like that HTC guy now
[Xperia Z General] john_cena163:
Xperia Z Gives a kick To SG4

http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-5701.php
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
That chinese prototype(in the gsmarena review) had a pentile screen but the one tested by these people(below) is using hexagonal sub pixel layout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kDYHjDFgno

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] john_cena163:
But Still Xperia Z beats it...
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Actually, in this Z/S3/S4 comparison - I have to say that S4 seems to have the worst screen... this new AMOLED matrix makes it really grainy. But still - you won't be able to see it with naked eye.
[Xperia Z General] nokiagye:
If the 4 is no water proof and strong like the z do you bye it?
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
To be honest, from what ive seen here, Samsung's fans/fanboys/sheep - call it whatever you want - begin to show the same behaviour as those dedicating their life to Apple...

It certainly proves that Samsung has been very successful with their marketing and sales. Something both HTC and Sony, in spite of all my "love" for Sony, didn't manage to do.
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
First it was the HCT one fan boys now the Samsung fan boys, why do they bother?
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Xperia z screen is subpar. And overall it can't compete with either the S IV or the HTC One.
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
If its grainy and cant be seen which I dont think it

is, how does it matter..shakes my head*

That is because they failed to make a decent phone.. make a good one.. then capitalize on it and then maybe you could troll like your so called samsung and apple guys.. and btw htc one smokes the z..

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