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[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teknohtc:
Personally, i don't use LTE even when i had my S3 i always had it on HSPA+ and not a problem loads fast(youtube), downloads fast(apps) good enough for me. LTE drains allot of battery for exchange of a higher speed. HSPA+ balances that out i still get speed and battery life. Believe me, if LTE wasn't a battery drainer i would be all on that lol but,as long as i got at least HSPA+, this phone is still BEAST!!! :D

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I wouldn't say that i'd say you would be able to go fast but, have a limiter because, of the law (differnt type of bands) and instead of 220 MPH (LTE) you go 200 MPH (HSPA+) but, you save on fuel(Battery) and get a experience of that monster "engine" (Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU) and the monster "Horsepower" (quad core @ 1.5GHz/2GB RAM) it puts out! :D
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
I get close to 70mbps down and 25 up on lte...hspa isnt anywhere close to that...
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omnius1:
I don't know why people keep insisting lte drains battery so much when numerous tech review sites have performed tests saying otherwise. Battery drain only becomes an issue when you're in an area with bad lte reception.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
i second that! I currently have Xperia T lt30a and it can last me a day with LTE ON the entire day.

Having LTE used to be this extra thing when they threw it in because no where else in the globe has LTE yet. Over the years, LTE have become one of the major things in our lives, "speed" "efficiency" etc, saving time means more work can be done. At times I would be in a scenario where i would have few seconds to check what I need on the net or emails or whatever, and I got to admit LTE is pretty damn fast, it does its job.

If you are moving from an LTE device to a non LTE device then be warned, you will see a difference.

in conclusion, if you bought C6603 then stick with it or sell it back out if LTE matters to you. For those who havent bought it yet, just stick around and wait for C6606 or move on to something else that has LTE.

Theres no point talking in this thread anymore. Everyone else here are just bashing each other. >.>
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charvin96:
Hey, I just had a few more questions for you. I see that Handtec's price with shipping right now is £426.89 ($655ish CDN). Any idea why yours was $680 or was it actually lower? Also, did you pay the taxes, etc. when they delivered your phone at the door?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Teknohtc:
When i payed via paypal i got $680 as the conversion rate I think paypal charged some hidden fees not sure. $95 was the HST + Fexdex fees. $95 was paid at the door. I think if you don't pay via paypal you would get it a bit cheaper. I paid $775, yours sounds like to me should be like $750 ish. I got mine in one day! Hopefully this helps!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
Hi my all Canadian mate,

Remember when I first got my Z it wouldn't allow me to make any phone calls but everything else works flawlessly, now I got my replacement and the new phone finally works perfectly! I am now officially a Z user!

And once again for the information

Edmonton Alberta

Lte not working

H+/3G working
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gitaroo:
is there a version of ZL, or Z that works with Wind mobile? I think the I saw the spec sheets for on of the ZL, and it support pretty much every single band like Nexus 4.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] REAVER117:
Yes, I'm using the C6506 on Wind right now. It gets much better reception than my Nexus 4.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noxlord:
Lucky Bastard :D
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
What's C6506?

I may be switching to Telus before I get my Xperia Z from the states.

Do you know if it's compatible with the LTE bands from that network?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] REAVER117:
Thanks, it's by far the best phone I've ever used!

The C6506 is one of the Xperia ZL variants. I'm sure it will be the most common Canadian version as it supports every carrier on HSPA and LTE, I'm not sure about the Z.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiFIL:
The 3G networks that the xperia Z supports are:

HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - C6603 - xperia Z

"In Canada, GSM-1900 is the primary band used in urban areas with 850 as a backup, and GSM-850 being the primary rural band" - Source

The xperia Z is lacking the 1900 band which means that it will have to use the 850 band at all times, which is unreliable as it doesn't have a coverage as big as the 1900 band. This is for 3G.

For LTE the xperia Z supports the following bands:

LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - C6603

Bell	Canada	1700/2100/2600

MTS	Canada	1700/2100

Rogers Wireless 1700/2100/2600

Telus	Canada	1700/2100

As you can see the common frequencies here are the 1700 and 2100 band. The problem here is the xperia Z doesn't support the 1700 band primarily, which means that it will have to pouch off the 2100 band, which it DOES support, and in a case were there is no 2100 band it will use the 2600 band which it also supports, which is great! You can get 4G LTE and 3G in canada if you import the device :D!

However there is no garuntee that it would support this, so if your skeptical about it you could purchase the HSPA+ model of the xperia Z, the C6602, which supports

HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - C6602

This is good as is supports Canadas primary band - 1900 and 850, so you would get a near-enough LTE experience. I presume that Sony felt that this wouldn't be fair to bring the xperia Z there as you may have a hard time with signal ect.

Hope this helped :).
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
We will have to see when it gets released and people try and use it here. No way i will buy a phone without lte though...the slow speeds would drive me crazy!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiFIL:
You sound as if your refering to EDGE or even GPRS. HPSA+ is not bad at all, nor is it 'slow'. The nexus 4 gets 24 meg download with H+ and the S3 LTE gets around 56 meg download. So not bad at all if you ask me, whats more is the battery will be better for the H+ model of the Z.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
Thank you so much for this information. :)

At least we know the Z will work if we import it.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
if the H+ model is cheaper, I may just get that instead. especially if the network is more reliable.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
I appreciate all the info but yes to me 24 down is slow..it would drive me nuts lol..half the speed..no thanks not to mention i refuse to lay out $600+ for a non lte phone..thats crazy. Id love to have a z believe me..its one of the nicest looking devices out there but i HAVE to have lte lol.Trust me im pissed sony isnt releasing it here..i planned on buying both it and the s4...

Thanks.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiFIL:
LTE is not significantly faster, i have 30 meg broadband in my house, which is more than adequate for most peoples needs, what are you going to be downloading films while streaming a youtube video or something 0_o?

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It is indeed, that's what i would go for.

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Not a problem at all :)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gitaroo:
is the C6506 going to be sold unlock at Sony store?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
I dont know how many of you actually uses xperias.

for all the phones ive used. Ive never gotten H or H+ on any of them. I tried it with FIDO and ROGERS.

LTE phones i get LTE or 3G

non LTE phones i get 3G

Does it mean i get the speed of H+ even thought it says 3G? or am i just getting 3G because it states 3G?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krabappel2548:
I live in Belgium and I get H on my Xperia S here :)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
I've gotten H on my arc before, so it probably means your getting 3G and not HSPA. I'm in the GTA, Rogers.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidindian:
Bell getting with unlocked boot loader..
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ambroos:
If you're getting 3G you're on UMTS.

All possible symbols on the Xperia Z are:

Nothing: well, nothing

G: GPRS, not enough to even surf on mobile sites

E: EDGE, enough to browse light sites

3G: UMTS, acceptable speeds, video streaming possible on low quality

H: HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA, which is pretty fast and should be fine for everything.

H+: HSPA+, very fast

LTE: Insanely fast LTE :)

It all depends on your reception and your operator's speeds too of course.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] REAVER117:
I said that two pages ago!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
:$ my bad. I'll remove my post.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slamx5:
Xperia Z is shown coming soon at sonymobile.com/us
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
That would be great, all thats held me back from this.phone is no.LTE in NA. then i will.have 2 new phones to play.with and compare, S4 and the Z.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charliechocolate:
I only see ZL
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
He's right I can see both the z and zl on the us website

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arlaken:
Thats great dude! :)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkw168:
the link is to Sonymobile US which does show the Z,

Sonymobile Canada is the one that only shows ZL
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pegasus5874:
Anyone able to get LTE in TO/Markham? I just couldn't!

Any suggestion or magic setting to help is appreciated.

Btw, I really like this phone, but the only down side is the home bar not able to hide to use full screen. Otherwise I give a 9/10!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] airbus318:
There are custom roms like PA on my nexus 7 that get rid of these buttons and replace it with a pie button that only comes up when sweeping up from the bottom center of the screen. Pretty slick and opens up that screen real estate.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
With the us version coming soon let's just wait and see if we can use those baseband they have and receive lte.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eXterkTi:
No luck here in Downtown Toronto.

LTE not working. H+/3G working.

Moreover, when I selected any radio band that includes LTE in the service menu, I am experiencing a often disconnect/reconnect to the network on my phone. Choose WCDMA preferred option gets rid of this.

Also, I've found CDMA/EvDO options available in my phone's radio freq selection menu. Look interesting.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
If at&t gets it then it ought to work on.rogers without issue.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
This might not interest everyone, since some of you already have imported Xperia Zs.

The ZL, which is slated to come to Canada, is open for preorder on SonyStyle.ca. Price for the phone is $674.99, and is expected to ship by April 2. Just like the Xperia S before, this model is locked to Rogers. Odd seeming that the ZL was announced to go multi-carrier.

http://store.sony.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=100803&storeId=20153&langId=200&productId=8198552921666540750
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Thanks for the link.

Its nice but nowhere near as sexy as the Z, at Least LTE will be working on it.

Do not like the on screen nav bar,hated it on my gnex...takes up too much screen real estate and is an eye sore (yes i know the z has it also)

Wonder if the bootloader will be unlockable? If not there wont be much development for it. Bad.timing for sony as well with the s4 on the horizon,they should have launched this earlier or later.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
I assume that this being a locked device, the bootloader will be locked.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Locked is.okay,as long as it can be unlocked..i had an ion that was basically a paperweight to me since the bootloader could not be unlocked..i.never even.took it out of.the box!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredastere:
If its sold locked to Rogers the chance of having the bootloader unlocked are close to none :(
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Then its another paperweight...what a waste. So we can buy an unlocked z with no lte or a zl with lte but unlockable bootloader? Awesome job sony!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lzychld:
Rogers APN

Hey guys,

Can anyone post their APN settings for Rogers? I am having difficulty sending MMS, 3G/HSPA is working fine though.

Thank you!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatscooldude:
You can unlock it and lock it again . Way better than the htc S-off.

.....
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Not entirely accurate, some sonys have bootloaders which cannot be unlocked. My Ion from rogers was one...but yeah for.the most part better.than htc for sure
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
ZL now up for preorder on Bell

http://sonyxperiazl.bell.ca/en/
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
A tweet from Sony Canada (not to me). The Xperia Z is coming to Canada. This summer.

https://twitter.com/SonyCanadanews/statuses/313865963168735233
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
Summer? Seriously?

This has fail written all over it.

Lucky I already own my Z.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Montague:
These are really great news! Would actually love to see more Canadian use Sony phones in the future!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dead0911:
Someone made a good point, maybe Sony meant the tablet
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
It would be nice if it were true, this is such a nice phone and im not sold on the ZL quite yet rather wait and see if they release the Z here.ill have the s4 when it hits the.stores so.that will keep me occupied for awhile but i would really like Z as well.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredastere:
Guys it is coming, it's sure we know already from the C6606 thread. The model will be C6606, what we didn't know was when. Now we know. Summer

Rejoice :)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Purehazard:
All the tweet confirmed was summer for a "Sony Z". Doesn't say it's the phone or tablet. I'm not getting my hopes up.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DdcCabuslay:
Whoop. Sony just confirmed that they were referring to the Tablet Z, not the Z itself. Oh well.

https://twitter.com/SonyCanadanews/status/314070340802322432
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Well that certainly sucks
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredastere:
Guys, the C6606 is not a rumor. It will be released with compatible LTE bands for North America.

I know the tweet was about the tablet, yet you can all rest assured that the Z is coming to North America ( and thus Canada ). It's just a matter of time unfortunately :(
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Purehazard:
The Xperia Z phone is listed on the Sony US site but not on the Canadian site. I figure we're not getting it Canada and I will just have to buy one from the US.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjamin021019:
i'm using Fido, can any one tell me how to set up the apn ?

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Settings > Wireless & networks > Mobile networks > Access point names:

Name: fido

APN: internet.fido.ca

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username: fido

Password: fido

Server: 205.151.011.011

MMSC: mms.fido.ca

MMS proxy: not set

MMS port: not set

MCC: 302

MNC: 370

Authentication type: not set

APN type: not set

Then, Settings > Data manager > Data Delivery and enable data and data roaming
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omnius1:
I'm one of the fewer number here that actually want the ZL more. I like grippy backings, I like the more compact and rounded design, don't want flap covers and like the physical camera button. But I understand glass or aluminum unibody are more popular. Just not my thing.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] athris:
i wonder if anyone brave enough to flash 6506 baseband on 6602 see if it enable LTE lol,
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ffviiifan:
In canada and got my phone from U.K. Happy with it. :laugh:
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LitoNi:
Change to the following:

APN: ltemobile.apn

MMSC: http://mms.fido.ca

MMS proxy: 205.151.11.13

MMS port: 80

and change the following to blank:

Username: fido

Password: fido

Server: 205.151.011.011
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curseknight:
C6602 vs. C6603 Speedtest Canada?

Has anyone been able to see which is faster running on 3g in Canada (rogers)???

Because the c6602 has both 850/1900...

I need to know before i import c6603 from Hong Kong

Thanks!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momodesign1:
why?

I am having a hard time deciding whether to buy Xperia Z C6603 or C6602...(i'm aware of XL more compatible in canada, however, like Z waterproof feature)

Location: Vancouver

Provider: Rogers

Data Usage: Minimal amount (emails, google map, etc)

From what i have read so far:

C6603 = OK connection for HSDPA, No LTE until further bands are deployed but antenna is embedded.

C6602 = Stronger HSDPA (both 850 & 1900 frequency), No LTE indefinitely due to absence of LTE antenna. <-- (based on specs). Anyone imported C6602??

...some thoughts, maybe by the time they deploy new bands, I might want a new phone already, seems like C6602 with stronger 3G connection is a better bet at the moment

...but C6603 with LTE antenna is certainly the future for most cellphones. Without it seems outdated...and if they do plan to deploy it very soon, i will have to buy a new phone for LTE :(

Opinions? Thank you in advance!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkw168:
Do not use "ltemobile.apn", since the LTE band is not available at the moment, use this apn will cause your phone to constantly attempt to search for LTE signal. The result is your phone will have random disconnection every few mins. Keep using "internet.fido.apn"
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyf3:
Momodesign

I have ordered from omegacell.com I ordered the c6602, because here in winnipeg my carrier(bell) does not hsve lte. Well no carriers have lte in winnipeg for that matter. But besides the point i ell receive the c6602 tomm and will update on speed tests.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arlaken:
FYI

Good news for all of us!

Rogers is expanding its LTE network and more importantly deploy the use of the 2600MHZ frequency.

http://www.androidcentral.com/rogers-expanding-lte-network-44-new-markets-spring
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
We have 2600mhz here in the gta and guys with the z still dont get LTE so it wont help any.in theory we all thought it should work but it does not,none of us have it figured it why ("we all" as in ppl who.follow this thread,i dont have a Z)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyf3:
Well for us folks in Winnipeg, as far as I know we don't have lte so it would be a waste of time going with c6603. I am awaiting the arrival of my c6602 which should operate just find on bells HSDPA network. I have never had lte and won't miss it. I can hardly sleep I'm so excited for my new phone.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] athris:
I have both phone (Xperia Z and rogers Optimus G) I can confirm that at the same location, Optimus g do get the LTE and Xperia Z do not.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hemsky83:
Xperia Z C6603 Fot Sale

Guys I have a BRAND NEW black Sony Xperia Z C6603 Fot Sale. I live in Windsor, Ontario. I am willing to ship any where in Canada or meet in person. Plz email me at hmsky83@gmail.com. Price is $800.

PS: I bought 2 of these from USA and Fedex charged me $107 EACH at the door.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegregulator:
Haha, why Hemsky?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curseknight:
Benefit of doubt???

I was wondering maybe the LG Optimus G is using the 700 mhz right now for LTE??? (LTE: 700/2600)

Because reading the official post from Rogers it seems like they are only deploying the 2600mhz this spring...

I'm not sure, just trying to be optimistic ^.^ :good:
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hemsky83:
LOL I like all the kids but I love his dekeing ability / one on one skill.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegregulator:
Too bad he can't stay healthy. He's definitely talented. He also looks like that kid from The Goonies. Anyways, sorry for hijacking the thread.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momodesign1:
C6603 or C6602

Hmm...so if I buy Xperia Z C6603 now, will LTE work on the Z once Rogers deploys 2600mhz in the near future???

In that case, it might be better choice to choose C6603 over C6602, if I can afford to lose LTE for a while until they deploy 2600mhz.

Anyone think so?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrSimple89:
how long will i have to wait to use Z :silly:
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hemsky83:
Never mind plz cancel that... I am keeping the phone after all. Sorry.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyf3:
It came

My white C 6602 arrived today. I have done speed test on bells hspa network and got over 7 mps. Phone is absolutely amazing. Sony has outdone themselves.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EAK47:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/28/rogers-htc-one-galaxy-s4-launch-date-price/

What do you think, did they mistake the Z and ZL or the Z is coming to Canada?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssj_jaypee:
Nice!

I got similar results with my C6603 on Rogers HSPA+.

Ping: 39ms

Download: 6.00Mbps

Upload: 2.41Mbps

There were slight variations in results repeating the test a few times over.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
I.think we will.have to wait and see. The zl.is actually pretty nice,i got a look at a demo but nowhere near as sexy as the Z. Im holding out for an LTE capable Z hope sony releases it in canada.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curseknight:
Vancouver Rogers LTE

So I asked a technician through the Rogers live chat and this is what they said.

"As far as LTE service in Vancouver is concerned, if you go to (Rogers Coverage Site), whatever you see in blue color will show you service area for LTE. Our LTE network band works on 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz. So if your device does not work on the exact band, you will not get a good LTE service on it."

Basically there is hope for Xperia Z C6603 LTE working in Canada after they deploy the new LTE2600 across the markets this spring so they say...
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaguar4u:
Canada should be part of the global deployment

Yes.

I have been waiting too long for a Sony come back, such as the XPERIA Z C6603 Which includes the LTE bands that I would love to use in Toronto so I can take advantage of data speeds of just under 100 MB download speed and well over 25 MB upload speeds that I have been enjoying on other devices. But the cameras on the other devices do not compare to the XPERIA Z.

I will have to do some research to find out where to order the XPERIA Z from in the US.

When Sony announced the global deployment of the XPERIA Z I expected that it would include Canada. Very disappointed. I'm not sure if I would be able to get warrantee in Canada for a phone that's purchased in the US.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaguar4u:
LTE Speed

I expect the model C6603 to surpass my current LTE speed
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dommage:
Better Speed with USA Band

Hi,

I'm in Montreal on Bell carrier and got my XZ Yesterday.

1st I didn't change anything and got H+ with speed of

6-7mbps DOWN

2-3mbps UP

Now I've change my Band to USA in the *#*#4636#*#* "Phone Information" and guest what !?

No LTE but :

24-28Mbps DOWN

3-4Mbps UP

I can live with that !! Hope this help some to get better speed
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegregulator:
Call me blind, but I don't see that option. Screenshot?