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[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
No memory card slot, no buy what a shame the rest of specs were great.
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

Has a 64GB variant, so it kinda negated that con :)
[Xperia Z General] jigarpatel22:
No memory, No Buy
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

The HTC one looks AMAZING! Stereo speakers in the front what!!!! Nobody can't beat HTC in the design department.
[Xperia Z General] fastzyx:
And Qualcomm's quad-core Snapdragon 600, clocked here at 1.7GHz and 2GB RAM
[Xperia Z General] djq:
htc one is going to have a IR remote built in
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
Live feed for HTC One event

http://www.androiddoes.net/news/breaking/htc-one-press-event-live-stream/
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
damn man....Xperia Z is not appear yet but already out of date....

Snapdragon 600 already everywhere !
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yep. And its just the beginning. Wait till Samsung announces their flagship.
[Xperia Z General] :
Seems like Sony just got smashed in every area. May get the One now.. arrghhh bloody tech!
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
I am upset for real
[Xperia Z General] djq:
available for pre-order starting TODAY!!! and launches in march WOW
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
March release, pre order from today, in P4U today in London.

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http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=678103#sthash.OWZkcSgf.dpbs
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Are you serious????? I'm sold!

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Yeah dude, its just crazy!! The One looks so good. Damn!
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Can anyone post Hands On video if available??
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
Free pioneer wireless speaker for first 200 pre orders!
[Xperia Z General] samxool:
Link please!!

oh, and Sony, HTC just served your ass on a plate.

I haven't even seen the HTC One screen yet, yet i know it will not be totally washed out like the Xperia Z!

Sony, you really screwed up here!
[Xperia Z General] djq:
specs look FANTASTIC http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#overview
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
Link is a few posts above
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
HTC Smashed Sony?!?!

Really how has HTC just smashed Sony lol!

Screen - Fair enough Screen is better I knew that I had a HTC One X, it has a newer processor in ok, HTC doesn't win on Storage sorry but whatever you say doesn't take away the fact you don't have a removable storage; so you phone just died how do you get stuff off it - Oh it's ok I have a removable SD card with everything backed up :)

Design - That is subjective, I much prefer the Xperia Z with the glass look and feel.

Battery - Near enough same mAh as Sony not much here to shout about.

Camera - Well we need to wait for some decent evidence before shouting about it!

Sound - Stereo speakers, nice HTC I've always wanted that on a smartphone, I'll give you a point there!

I don't really see how HTC smashed Sony :confused:

But anyway each to their own!!

P.S if you dropped your phone down the loo or in the toilet at least I know mine will still work :P Hehe!
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
Just paid for my sony htc specs aint all that, and i want to watch porn in the shower no mess to clean up after!
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

It is SO tempting but I will wait till next month, , they keep getting better this year !:D

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Seriously guys first 2 phones of 2013 are awesome.

1. Xperia Z

2. HTC One

I want see the videos of HTC One in black !!

Whats the pricing??

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] djq:
side by side comparison from phone arena http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Sony-Xperia-Z,HTC-One/phones/7539,7678

the water proofing of the XZ really looks like the only advantage of the XZ but with sony stating they are not going to honor warranty's for water damage i dont even consider it a selling point anymore

looks like im switching my order from the XZ to the HTC One
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9A8NnBbW_A

[YOUTUBE]pDjfh5mFWUc[/YOUTUBE]

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6754/hands-on-with-the-htc-one-formerly-m7

Anandtech preview

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
HTC ONE: too big for a 4.7" phone :(:(

am off to bed... next stop s4
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
The HTC One only produces HDR video @ 720P! :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

The water proofing is a great additional feature, but I don't even consider it an advantage. What I mean by that is what are the chances you drop your phone in a liquid? Vs dropping your phone period? Having some kind of drop protection would have been a bigger deal to me, I never dropped my phone in the shower or toilet or swimming pool or whatever :p

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I never really cared for benchmarks, but for those of you who do here is a quadrant benchmark between HTC one and nexus 4. ... Clear throat.... 12000 in quadrant for the HTC one.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38197446
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
Since I new here unfortunately I can't post links...

But I saw an image of the edges being scratch just like the iPhone 5! If anyone wants to post it send me a pm and I will send the link...

And remember, in the first hands-on and on Z was perfect without flaws! It was only on reviews that the weakest points stand out.

You may think this new HTC is perfect but it will have it's flaws just like every other phone.

We don't know if it's scratches really easy, although there is already a picture, we don't know about battery life, we don't know how good the camera is (it might be good in low light, but is that everything? less MP might affect it in sunny days vs the other contenders), and the Sense 5 limitation of one home screen without the ability to put shut cuts or widgets might be a limitation...

I'm not saying that it can't be the best phone, just that we don't know it yet!

And these are concerns that I have, although I might think it's more beautiful than the Xperia Z that I ordered. But the scratches are a no go for me...
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
Hope One reviews will appear soonish (2 weeks), before I order XZ. If it has better screen and identical battery time I may get One.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Battery life could be the drawback here:confused:

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
Is the nexus 4 the same cpu as the sony z?
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/htc-one-will-be-available-in-red-19-02-2013/

Would be available in red too

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head

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Yes they both have same cpu and gpu

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] xIceCream:
Is XZ and HONE sharing the same processor?

Could HTC Blink be ported to other phones? o.O

Is XZ's camera great? I've read some reviews, like from PA and Engadget, some of them say, no noticeable difference in quality and Samsung's one better! :eek:

Also their viewing angle, most of the reviews say XZ's one is one of the worse. -__-

XZ vs Hone, who will win! :D
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Its a matter of preference. I prefer the HTC One but theXZ looks like a good phone too. As far as the processor, the HTC one uses the snapdragon 600 that gives it about 15-20% more power than the S4 pro that the XZ uses.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Htc one has a better processor compared to Xperia z

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
i think the htc one is just an OC version of the s4 pro thats in nexus 4 and xperia z
[Xperia Z General] nasiayam:
htc one is using the newer snapdragon 600 while xperia z is using s4 pro
[Xperia Z General] ajay83:
Hey guys.

I've been folowing the threads here for a few weeks as I have ordered the XZ.

Everyone here has made some truly valid point in regards to pro's and con's between the New Sony flagship and other up and coming phones.

For the last few years I've owned a HTC desire, DHD and now a Sensation. I liked all of them. Samsung, although packing some serious specs has never really been for me.

With HTC.... Even with the new phone announced today with some awesome specs(some better than the XZ) I can't help but think "it's just another HTC phone". Don't get me wrong, the DEV community for the HTC phones is awesome and personally the only reason I'd get another one is because of the DEVs and not actually what HTC have brought to the table. I feel like I've been there done that.

For me the XZ is a phone that after a long time I have seen and actually desired. I really want something different at the moment and the XZ fits the bill for me. I know later this year the competition will be releasing phones a lot 'better' than the XZ and that's cool too, but like some people have said 'buy a new phone today, it's old tomorrow' and this is an ongoing process.

I'm personally looking forward to receiving my XZ and being apart of the community over here. I could wait and get a phone with better specs/hardware etc..., but I'll be in the same boat again next year.

I think if you like a phone, then go with your GUT feeling about getting it, don't look so much into specs/hardware on black and white. Variety and choice is always a good thing too. I followed HTC for a few years, now I'm trying SONY and it'll be someone else later on.

Just my 2c and hello to all the people here in the XperiaZ forum =)
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Tomorrow I will get to look at the Z for the first time. If I am happy when I get to see the display there is a pretty good chance I will stick with the Z. If not, the HTC One will be my next device. HTC One looks very nice indeed, and the sceen is awesome.
[Xperia Z General] Tomatoes8:
It's bigger than the 5 inch ZL so screen size is in most cases irrelevant. The 4.7 inch HTC One is the size of a 5 inch.

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Did you ignore my entire post? Stop looking at specs because it's not possible to have 5 inch specs on small phones. High end small phones are capped out at iPhone 5/Z10 level which the Xperia Z and Acer cloud mobile easily do. The Xperia V has the exact same internals as the One X and GS3.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
This is WRONG. Please don't spread misinformation.

The Snapdragon 600 in the HTC One is 40% faster then the S4 in the Xperia. It is not simply due to OC...
[Xperia Z General] Tomatoes8:
Yup typical HTC. They never learn. Their handsets will always be too big and their buttons will always have poor ergonomics until they fire the lead designer.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
huh? HTC has always had some of the most ergonomic devices on the market, combined with some of the slimmest devices.

are you truly this biased against HTC.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Wow who's spreading miss information?? Where are your sources that state the Snapdragon 600 is this much faster?? Please post links as we then get clarification....
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
Please see Qualcomms official press release, benchmarks as well as other news reports. Easily findable by a simple google search.

For your convince please find a link to AT stating the 40% figure:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6568/qualcomm-krait-400-krait-300-snapdragon-800
[Xperia Z General] Tomatoes8:
Lol good. I never laughed that hard in awhile.

Their buttons have always been too flush for style purposes and in the wrong place. Plus the One X felt huge because of that piano gloss edges. They are horrible in ergonomics.
[Xperia Z General] :
Must admit, love the specs but my the only one who thinks that Sense 5 is horrible? That app draw menu is the worst ive ever seen on android.
[Xperia Z General] djq:
i take benchmarks with a grain of salt but i found this interesting http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-benchmarks-off-the-charts-19270000/
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
Xiaomi isn't available locally, and I don't want to deal with warranty hell knowing my luck.

Anything non-Linux is a no-go for me, so only Android.

The One S outperforms the One S because its a better SoC, not because of fewer pixels. Check the One XL review (uses the same SoC as the One S).

You tell me to go mid-range. Again, no locally sold mid-range phone with the amount of RAM I need.

10mm isn't thck. As my Nexus S proves. If all the advances of new tech was paired with 30+% more physical space, that means at least a 40% bigger battery. That's a simple 40% betterylife improvement. Without compromising portability.

Taking the current SGS3/SGS3 mini combo: the mini variant has less than half the CPU power, a terrible screen (in comparison), and nowhere near as good a camera. That's no flagship if you ask me, considering the older Xperia S beats it soundly on all fronts.

Now, the HTC One has just been announced. Fantastic phone (closest to perfect hardware this gen IMO), but it's gonna have HTC's horrible bootloader and lack of sources, so it simply won't have much development...

In short, a flagship is a bloody flagship BECAUSE it has the best specs. Screen size is the one debateable aspect, but if everywhere else the flaship is clearly technically better, there IS a mid-range to complement the flagship.

Really, what you just told me is to get (in GPU equivalents) is a GTS 650 when a GTX 680 is just so much better... At the same price because contracts.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
I would have to disagree with you on the Dev related statement.

HTC STARTED the development phenomena. The HTC One is powered by a qualcomm chip, meaning root should come quickly.

HTC also has had some of the more prolific and dedicated developers.
[Xperia Z General] Warhero141:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

The same Sammobile that claimed that the Galaxy S2 would recieve the 4.1 Jellybean update in subsequentially October, November, December, January and for now in February?
[Xperia Z General] xchasa:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Sony Xperia Z won me at waterproof.
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Sammy loves releasing so many models one after the other.. non stop

and fails at providing proper updates ..

less is always more
[Xperia Z General] bala_gamer:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

The site has given an apology for the wrong translation.

Lol, we should be happy to see the update is still planned. Whereas most other oems don't even care about it. How many of the end users of s2/s3 cares about the update? It's us the enthusiastic people here and the community who cares about the updates /specs /sources/blabla. The whole community will come no where near the ten percent mark of the total number of devices sold. Also for the sake of community we already have a leaked 4.1.2 rom for s2.;)

As many people said xperia z will have a better aosp support and this time with exynos5 we can count on better development than exynos4 due to n10. Again all these stuffs comes into consideration for us the enthusiastic users, average joie will be enjoying his mobile (and his life:D) without any worries.

Reg s4, I would like to see a better design and materials used, I'm definitely satisfied with their roms and the amount of development going on. But the design is the concern. Regardless technology improves day by day and the mobiles get out dated in terms of specs faster than ever. The release cycles of oem are changed and everyone of them tries be the manufacturer with top specs.

So my thoughts, if any is planning for a mobile very soon say in a month or so they should go and get xperia z/zl which is the currently the top DROID out there. Rest of the users can wait and plan their update after seeing s4. I'm sure it would be very hard to ignore once it goes official unless samsung messes something bad.

《posted from s3》
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

This makes me laugh, you just wanna say negative things that are not true or that we don't know yet.

I believe the Exynos 5 octa will outperform the S4 pro ( although the S4 is plenty enough but still). Battery life is most likely gonna be better on the S4. It will also probably be removable. Touchwiz doesn't fit in Android guidelines? What does that mean? That sound like an anti touchwiz rant. You can't see the S IV doing all that well and being on par with the Z? Come on now, come back to planet earth you know the S IV will sell better than the Z. Pentile? Does it matter to you at a 1080p screen with 440 PPI? Be realistic. 2 gigs of ram = more than enough right now. No waterproof, well the Z will probably have the edge but I don't think that is a BIG deal. Support for aosp? Sony is better at it but let see if Samsung starts supporting the devs, you never know.

I understand this is the Z forum and most people here are going with that phone, but let's see what happens when samsung announces the S IV.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

I remember that but it was mostly a prediction this time they seem quite sure

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As far as I remember s3 was first to receive jb (dont count nexus)
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
i think there is no point discussing about each of these companies anymore. both have pros and cons

at the end of the day, people should go for what they like and what would be suitable to their needs and which they feel is a great product.

for me personally.. its the Z .. love technology in all forms!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

We can discuss but can't really compare until the S IV is announced.
[Xperia Z General] Warhero141:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

FYI, I'm not ranting against Samsung but against Sammobile which has proven itself wrong quite often.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Also their road maps point towards q1 release
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
I dont think we will actually notice any difference between the hardware.. until benchmarked

and benchmarks are not everything

http://developer.sonymobile.com/ >> this is what we are here for.. and sony is really supporting dev's, cm, all out!

samsung don't care really.. they made many false promises at bbqandroid and after that.. and most of their stuff is buggy

Gosh, I cant get over the Z tablet and mobile..Love it.. so much beauty!
[Xperia Z General] dartagnan04:
Seriously? I won't take the bet!

And I just want them to know that they lost buyers because of that. Even if that's a ridiculous lost for Sammy
[Xperia Z General] encho:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

For me everything leans toward Z: looks, build quality, dev support. One thing that I'm worried about is the screen quality. Why wouldn't they use SLCD?
[Xperia Z General] avetny:
Of cause. New Octa5 will rape all devices around. I agree.

But brother this is time to go. Samsung don't give a **** about us.

Cyanogen don't feel good any more. And I will help to them, and Im sure Im not be alone.

Samsung choose to money not love.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

I understand. I've never been a big fan of cyanogen ( I'm probably the only one) so it personally don't affect me that much.
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

I made a mistake by choosing S2 over Gnex coz of awesome hardware, I regret it, Won't repeat the mistake.
[Xperia Z General] -A-P-M-:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

I couldnt agree more. I expect Octa5 will tops benchmarks, but question is how smooth SGS4 will be due to Samsung's software. SGS3 needs about 3 seconds to open Contacts app, despite it has very good hardware..
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Awesome hardware is not always = bad phone.. or am I wrong ?:confused:

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1 thing I have certainly noticed about s3 is that it has a great battery life , some of the smartphones are not upto the mark (motorola has a good battery though )

and I think it could be the same case with s4 (2600mah battery, big.LITTLE, and maybe Oled screen?)
[Xperia Z General] AayushDhuria:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

I have original I9100, CM on it sucks balls. G Nexus had inferior but open source chipset n today gnex performs better. Even though S2 gets better benchmarks (This proves benchmarks are useless)
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

Cm10.1 runs quite smooth but battery seems to be draining quickly compared to stock (maybe thats a problem due to sources not available? ) I hope samsung would release full sources and especially the things needed to developers.
[Xperia Z General] :
I'm sticking with my Z - If the SIV blows it away then I'll get a good price for the Z, sell it and get the S4. Job done.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

That's better, it's not hard to place your sources before stating things is it :thumbup:

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Thanks for the source, benchmarks look pretty hot, but like you say we'll take them with a pinch of salt.

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Lol you changed your mind again! :p