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[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I take benchmarks lightly too.. But you have to check this video...the htc m7 takes only half the time of a nexus 4 which uses the s4 chip as the xperia z to finish the quadrant sequence..literally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And in all the reviews, htc one runs blazing fast.. I have even seen xpreria z stuttering very lightly in one of the review vids...

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Are u retarded? You're saying were misinforming, do u have proof?
[Xperia Z General] alabrand:
Please get your **** straight, son. The HTC M7, otherwise known as HTC One, will use a Snapdragon 600 which is nearly identical in performance to the one used in Xperia Z. The only difference being that the one in HTC One is clocked at 1.7GHz. The fluidity and the amount of lag differs from each UI so you can't strictly compare two devices that doesn't use the same one.
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Am I the only one finding the HTC one ugly, maybe it will look better in black, and HTC really should of nAmed the phone better I feel.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
Wrong.

Snapdragon 600 is Krait 300, an improvement over the Chip in the Xperia Z.

OC'd DNAs and Nexus 4s cannot reach the same scores as the Snapdragon 600 pre-release scores. Not to mention the S4pro is at the edge of thermal stability.

The S600 has a L2 cache prefetcher as well as IPC improvements and executing more out of order instructions. On top of this, forwarding between pipes is now supported.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
OMG LOOKIT DA HTC ONE SCREEN BLACKS WASHED OUT N GREY COMPARED TO NEXUS 4 OMG OMG

:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Looking at that video looks like HTC has on screen buttons? Not usually a con in my opinion, but it is when they've stuck hardware buttons on aswell
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
it's their solution to legacy apps which still use the menu button. It's stupid and even more still with HTC completely discarding the multi-tasking/menu button altogether.
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
In fact it is a lot more grey thank the Nexus 4! And it's not the UI of the system because they are within the app! :p
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

You guys keep talking out of your asses and assuming instead of researching before posting.
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tORefcQs20 Screen quality doesnt look amazing, interesting camera app, not that convinced by the technology so far though.
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
In certain videos and photos do look pretty good, but I've seen it washout too so only time will tell

The thing I do notice most is that there's no proper photos that we can compare! The only ones taken were with strange blue and pink lights and no more examples from HTC it self!

I think this is going to be some kind of flop...
[Xperia Z General] Chillz88:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Since you already got the reply...i hope i dont need to tell you the difference.. Hope you can read and understand better than you type those useless uninformed posts, son...

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

The phone looks expensive, it screams quality.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
it is impossible to accurately determine screen quality from photos.

All the comments about screen excellence come from first hand accounts.
[Xperia Z General] Kurowsk1:
Are we expecting any other flagship phones out before summer apart from the HTC One, Galaxy S4 and the so called 'X Phone' ?
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Who knows. But its likely.
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Rumors about the Sony 'Togari' with 6.44" screen and a Snapdragon S800 with 1080p screen. According to rumors, scheduled for second half of 2013. Not exactly before summer, but for the S800 we can make an exception:D
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yes but not from the big companies
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
You can with videos...just like you see some people saying with Xperia Z!

And with the XZ everyone was praying the screen on CES in the first hands-on and now some people say its to washout and some like it even more.

The thing is it depends from person to person but in that video it's undeniable that the screen was way more grey than the nexus 4.

And I note saying that it's a bad screen, most certainly will be better than XZ (at least on viewing angles)...but people have to calm down and realize that every device has flaws.

In the HTC One we might find the famous death grip of the iPhone 4, because the antennas are on the metal back and are only separated by thin lines of plastic. We might find coting problems and scratches due to the painted aluminum. We can find poor battery, because Sense 5 has this new service always on and looking for stuff in background.

Only time will tell but phones with perfect specs and features on paper...always have their flaws ;)
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
i like the HTC one's screen, but need to see it IRL, Same goes for the Xperia z. However both phones are awesome in my eyes :)
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
I have just been down to phones 4 u in Oxford Street (Bond Street) and played with the HTC One, it is better than the z in these departments which are major ones aswell imo.

*much better speakers,

*much better and much louder audio in headphones (for once I am actually not going to need power amp)

*Camera and video is better

*screen is better

*much faster and smoother

*UI is better on HTC

these are my opinions based on using both phones now

Drawbacks compared to Z is lack of memory card slot and seems the uk is only getting the 32gb model (which kinda sucks tbh but the phone was so good I had to get it) and the lack of being water/dust proof.

Design wise I think they are equal both in looks and design/feel.

The One is slightly smaller than the Z in height and thats noticeable, phone looks small for its size tbh.

Now for the above reasons has led me to cancel my pre order for the z and pre order the one on vodafone £37 unlimited mins/texts, 1gb data, 2gb wifi, also comes with free case, free speaker, and urbeats headsets.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
You actually cannot tell from a video. We have people who have viewed both devices (the Xperia and the One), who state the One is superior.

I have personally compared the HTC one X and the Xperia, and the One X has the superior screen. It is also superior to the Nexus 4's screen.

So, if the HTC One's screen is superior to the One Xs, and the One X's screen is superior to the Nexus 4s, how can the HTC One have an inferior screen to the Nexus 4?

Makes no sense.

Also, please read about how the antena works, it won't suffer from the same issues that the Iphone did.
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
I also had a play with an HTC One today. If anyone has any really, really basic questions that I might know the answer to after just a few minutes of playing with it in a shop despite possessing no discernible expertise, I'll do my best to answer. :) (I also had a quick play with a Galaxy Note II and an Xperia Z in other shops a little earlier).
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
Does it do the FANDANGO?:cyclops:
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Just this - which one have you decided to buy?
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Wow touchy aren't you, no need for name calling we aren't at school you know! It was simply a kind gesture, your information was wrong, you provided no evidence. I know it S600 is quicker I just wanted you to post the proof.

Really you are in the Sony Xperia Z forum why don't you move along to the HTC One and boast there instead and leave us in peace!

So does the Xperia Z, even better in the flesh!
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
*sigh* damn these flame wars.
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
Can you tell me why HTC One screen is a lot more grey in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU

They are at the same angle so if the video is not fair to the HTC its not fair to the Nexus. By that I mean, the colors might not be real but they are not for both.

But this way you can see which one is more grey...
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

You're the expert who said that the 600 and the s4 pro were the same except that the 600 is over clocked, which is false. What you're saying is irrelevant and inaccurate.
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
I'm still dithering. :) I placed a pre- order for the Xperia Z a while ago, and haven't yet canceled it, but am increasingly leaning towards doing so. The HTC is very cool, but it's just too small - I'd like something bigger than a Note II, really - plus I had a bad enough experience with the HD2 that I swore I would never buy an HTC phone again. That the HTC One is causing me to waver in my resolve is quite a tribute to it.

All the Zoe stuff is fabulously cool, btw. Possibly not actually very useful, but cool. :)
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Ha really did I, please inform me of where I wrote this.... actually don't bother I've just realised I've lowered my self to your standards!

I'll come back in a few days when hopefully the HTC fanbois will of left!
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Great.
[Xperia Z General] Tomatoes8:
Um the One S beats the One XL in benchmarks too. Go research before you reply.They both use the Qualcomm S4 but the One S performs better because it pushes less pixels, exactly like I said.

Go read my post again because you are obviously too close minded and missed all of my points.

The fact is, you wouldn't consider any 4.3 inch phone a flagship unless the 5 inch 1080p one didn't exist or had crappier specs. You are just too close minded to see it.

Like I said. Xiaomi Phone 2, it doesn't matter if it isn't available where you live, it is still a 4.3 inch flagship in every sense of the word.

Trust me, Z10 screen resolution or 720p, 2gb of ram, and qualcomm 600 is about as flagship as possible for a smaller phone and I guarantee that you will see that with HTC M4 and the GS4 mini.

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Nope, not just you. The more I look at it the more disjointed it looks with the T shaped line on the back and the huge top and bottom bezels that stick out on the front. Very convoluted look with no flow and blend.
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
My question is the Xperia Z better then the xperia S or lg optimus 2x?. I am not talking about PPI or resolution since its obvious.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I have both the Xperia S and Xperia Z (and also had the T) and I can tell you it is a major, major improvement in smoothness, speed, display quality, audio quality and stylishness.
[Xperia Z General] Tomatoes8:
I have owned the One X, the Optimus G, and the Nexus 4. The Optimus G had the nicest screen for sure, which is weird considering the Nexus 4 screen is identical. Google really screwed up the display drivers somehow.

I haven't owned the One X in ages but my 8x screen licks nuts compared to both the Nexus 4 and LG Optimus G screens.

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The BB10 built in movie maker is much more powerful than ZOE.

We need something with the gestures of BB10, the fluidity of WP8, and the rest the level of Android. Screw IOS.
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
Was more interested on the screen, i liked the xperia S screen and i just want it to be better then that and abit more vibrant and livevly colours. Thats all :P
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
It sure is a lot better. Blacks are quite a bit deeper and colours are better/different depending on what generation Xperia S you had. First gen (only the very first batches) had a display with quite vibrant colours but the white balance was too yellow. The second generation had (much) less deep colours but white was no longer yellow. The Xperia Z contains the best of both (vibrant colours, accurate white balance) and adds deeper blacks on top of that.
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
had the very first batch, but i did get yellow spot issue and they changed my screen to the second gen i believe. I really hope though that neither htc one or xperia Z suffer from the yellow spot issue at the beginning.

Btw Guys help me out here. Im trying to find out which LTE bands the HTC one has.

Im Interested in 900 MHz, 2600 Mhz and 800 Mhz but mostly the first two since the 800 Mhz is not finished and not online yet. I know that xperia z supports all three but cant find info about the Htc one :eek:

sorry if i posted on the wrong thread
[Xperia Z General] djq:
looks like the HTC ONE got its own forum now http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2115
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
I don't want to miss lead you...but clove has no reference to 4G in the HTC One and I read somewhere that it was only 800Mhz...don't know why :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
It must have LTE, but which frequencies does it support?
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Htc one black:)

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

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More htc one black pictures

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/49954/htc-one-black-photos-preview

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Just a friendly FYI for everyone, an HTC One forum has been opened so if you want to discuss more about it then come hang out!
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

The back is a complete Xperia Ion rip off !!. Time to sue HTC, Sony !!!! :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
HTC One vs Xperia Z - Discuss Here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2156688
[Xperia Z General] monchicchi:
acctually I like sony phone design, black so elegant and of course water and dust resistance, best camera no doubt.

but really shame that lcd don't have sharp saturation :(
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Best thing you have said on this forum! :thumbup:
[Xperia Z General] namezlezz:
Hmm can anyone compare this display with that of the Arc ??? Would i see a big improvement in terms of vibrancy, contrast n color accuracy ???
[Xperia Z General] MadManMark:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Isn't the hd2 supposed to be an amazing phone?
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
The fact that it has low viewing angles doesn't make it a bad phone. Other than that, it was an amazing phone ( was, because now it's really out-dated )
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
Btw guys CM10.1 is already out for Z :D

And the Z isn't even out globally. Good times ahead :) I am waiting for an OC kernel. @1.9ghz and GPU overclock. Then the Z would not be "outdated" LOL.

Thankfully seems like a lot of trolls have left the Z forum. :D
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

"Over clocking" won't help you with GPU it won't perform as good the GPU in s600

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

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[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Since S4 uses the same GPU as S6, I wouldn't expect huge GPU performance improvements - some, for sure.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

S600 gets 41.3 fps in glbench and xperia z gets 29fps (offscreen 1080)
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
You are wrong, the GPU is the same in both chips, see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
That's due to the fact that in S600 its clocked higher, which is why I mentioned GPU overclock. Adreno 320 in S4 PRO is clocked @ 400mhz, in S600 its clocked at 530mhz or so I believe.
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
So if the XZ opens, say, the dialer in 0.05 seconds, the HTC One will potentially do so in 0.0485 seconds.

OMFG my life is a lie.

Seriously people, there's not a noteworthy difference between the two. Period.

i9100g, you're way too early - save your breath for the Samsung Galaxy S4, which will beat the snot out of all benchmarks ever made - including that of the HTC One. The performance difference you're looking for will be delivered with the A15s. Which will then mean that the HTC One will be labelled as obsolete, right?

Interestingly the a phones life obsolescence life cycle hardly lasts 10 days these days.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Benchmarks, benchmarks, benchmars... and yet they both lag sometimes within the UI. It's a phone, not a 3D rendering machine. Benchmarks mean NOTHING for majority of users.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

They share the same name , but their performance is different.

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

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[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Disappointingly, the pictures taken by the HTC One look like exactly like the ones taken by a One X.. and downsized to 4 megapixels:

http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4542/49639/1/rv/htc-one-新 HTC One / The new HTC One-review/
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Lol I never said benchmarks matter , someone was saying that they share same GPU , never said anything how much important they are.

Over clocking won't achieve you higher scores than 2-3 fps in glbench .

It requires more ALU power something that cannot be compensated with over clocking.

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Of course our sole purpose of getting a phone is to run glbench on it.. :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

It is? Then you shouldn't buy Xperia Z then :D:p lol
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
Yup, the HTC One is trash too.

Samsung Galaxy S4 baby! My glbench will eat yours for dinner :silly:
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
I didn't know....from what I have read they are the same...once reviews and tests have been done we shall see.
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Samsung fanboy! :D:D
[Xperia Z General] Shasarak:
Seriously, do NOT get me started on the HD2. Worst purchase I ever made.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Don't kid yourself... iPhone 6 will trash all your cheap chinese cr... :cool:

( I'm sorry, i just couldn't resist :D )
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
But in the end - the lumia 920 will still triumph all :D

Nokia fanboys > all
[Xperia Z General] Jubei1:
No its not clocked higher. The improvements in the GPU are mainly from updated drivers and support from lddr3

The reason Qualcomm can clock the CPU higher is because of the improvements made to the CPU core but the GPU is untouched other than improved bandwidth support

The glbenchmark out there is from the Galaxy S4 version and i suspect Samsung is using lddr3 (because they will be using lddr3 for exynos)

So the HTC One is most likely not gonna do 40+ fps on glbench since it uses lddr2
[Xperia Z General] Codrea:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Plastic lover :D
[Xperia Z General] i9100g user:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Htc one and xperia z

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Doesn't look like nothing wrong with the screen on the Xperia Z to me :)
[Xperia Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Check out this video - Xperia Z vs HTC One

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZeK4oltM8c&feature=youtube_gdata_player

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Z General] :
So whats wrong with the Xperia Z screen again? Both look great.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Exactly what I was saying, I'm really impressed with it, still getting it!
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

And has HTC gone crazy?

Double press home to go to recents?

Long press home for search?

Why mess them up? Just get rid of them already! On screen buttons, please....
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
Does any one know the xperia z aperture size? Cant find any info about it
[Xperia Z General] warfareonly:
Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar15) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Me neither...
[Xperia Z General] JPWOA:
+1 :D
[Xperia Z General] SEFanX10i:
LMAO

See this Samsung fanboys!!! :D

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...et-across-the-board-instead-of-Exynos_id40000

Forget Exynos OCTA, Samsung SIV will use snapdragon S600 across the board.
[Xperia Z General] taxas:
i dont really understand whats up with all the extra cores and GHZ. Quad core is enough. In my opinion the s4 pro would last at least 2 year without issues. The part that they should focus more on is the GPU since screen resolution is going higher and higher and more intense graphics. We dont need more CPU power but a better optimized OS and smart solutions to keep the watt consumption down. Its like we are going through the Pentium 4 era all over again.

In my opinion the s600 should be down-clocked to 1.5 or 1.4 to improve the battery and focus on efficiency. With all the tweaks and improvements the s600 should still perform better per clock then the s4 pro. I am not saying that the s600 is power hungry but SOC companies seem to do the same mistake Intel made back in the day's and learned the hard way, in the end they were saved by their Israeli R&D which came up with the Pentium M that later evolved to core 2 duo which brought intel back on track.