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[Xperia Z General] Brilliant Dev:
is this image enough to convince you ?

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Xperia Z is much better than HTC DNA, which has sharp S-LCD 3 FHD .

Xperia Z screen si turned to be washd out in most of comparison in Youtube Because be they recorder with bad camera & camcorder that sensitive to the back light of Xperia Z screen .
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
The image does look amazing. That's the sort of thing that I wish to see on my phone.

It looks like a render or an edited picture from an advert though...every phone with a high resolution screen in the past few years has shown in adverts as perfectly clear, vibrant etc. Hands on is a different story altogether though
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
They always render the screen. But since those are photos of actual phones - i'd say it's impressive.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
The HTC DNA picture to me seems to have a more realistic skin tone color.
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
I just feel like we are surrounded by Photoshop Pro's and company reps that will try and sell the device to you at any cost :P but yeah I agree the pictures look amazing. I keep checking youtube every few hours hoping for a video that will show me how impressive Xperia Z screen looks in real life but I am sold on the Xperia Z and can't wait to get it.
[Xperia Z General] Brilliant Dev:
the picture is not taking from adverts, it's real comparison done by technical website with prototype version of Xperia Z .
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
A great Xperia Z review has just popped up on www stuff tv/review/sony-xperia-z

Looks like its an all round winner :)
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
I'm afraid we live in Photoshopped times in general... i mean it's not just electronics - everything is faked, from groceries to cars...even toilet paper ffs! :)

Anyway, just went through the review - seems like we have a new king :)
[Xperia Z General] Brilliant Dev:
viewing angle is great for all color expect WHITE The with destroy the seen
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjGmhy73Pdg

This doesn't look like videos from CES etc. definitely NOT washed out and actually very good - like on all photos provided in this thread.
[Xperia Z General] brambizimski:
Yeah wow that looks great, but why is the Sony logo on the bottom though?
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
That's the Japanese version from a Docomo network, so it has Docomo branding on top
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
Man is this possible?? Keeping the bravia engine ON even on the home screen? That would be awesome! :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] brambizimski:
It should be, it's "just" a post processing engine for your screen.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I don't know if it would actually look good, perhaps it may add too much contrast and saturation to the screen.
[Xperia Z General] Vebansen:
Do you think it would even be necessary xiFIL? Considering that in your opinion the 'home' screens are not as washed out as the pre-beta models would have us believe.
[Xperia Z General] akong702:
WOW! That screen looks really awesome. I'm convinced that I will be buying the ZL. Also after reading the early review, battery life sounds pretty good. Definitely my next phone will be the Sony Xperia ZL, I prefer the compact style and all white color.:D
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
No i don't, that's what am saying, the screen looks fluid and sharp, compared to the note 2, iphone 5, xperia t, galaxy s3, iphone 4s, htc one, htc dna, the xperia Z is hands down the best screen! You have to see the device to understand what i mean, i just hope a reviewer gets the final product to show you, it's by far the best screen i have seen at all on a phone!
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
Leftmost is the prototype? I like that design better :/
[Xperia Z General] brambizimski:
You're probably just a Sony representative aren't you! (is joke)
[Xperia Z General] hebbe:
yeah, that's what i've been thinking of, too :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] ila420:
Non Removable Battery

Arn't you guys worried about the non removable battery? what will happen if it dies due to some reason and you won't be able to change it.
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Why have you posted asking about the battery on this thread for?
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Wrong thread, they'll beat you to death with a stick.

And no, i'm not worried. Sony gives 24 months warranty on both the phone and the battery. If anything happens to it - they'll replace it for free. Most non-removable batteries are covered under warranty for as long as the phone itself - it's not only Sony.
[Xperia Z General] samxool:
Does the Bravia Engine work with apps such as MX Player?

IMHO stock videos players suck ass, and i totally use MX player everyday (especially as i got the paid version to get rid of the ads).

i'd hate to find out the Bravia engine doesn't work with MX player.

anyone know how it works?

thanks
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
New Xperia Z review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws3Rqx9ZcXU
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I wish xD! At the rate the xperia Z will be selling out at, if i worked for sony i would be getting payed double what vodafone pay me ;)

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Unfortunately it does not, the bravia engine only works with sony media applications. I played a video with bravia engine on from the sony app and another from MX player and i can tell there is a significant difference. Some people don't like bravia engine hence the reason they use stuff like MX player, so am afraid it does not work with MX player
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
For all those still worried about viewing angles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Tz95i-HSE

Not bad and certainly enough - at least for me.
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Yes, not bad at all.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
I use MX Player but not for that reason. I use MX Video player because of the lack of codec support of android. I like watching anime and rm and rmvb formats are the best for these type of videos.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
It does actually, as long as you watch with HW or HW+ decoders. This is also why Bravia Engine will never be tweaked to run at all times. It's a shader integrated in the decoding process, which needs to be done in hardware. All apps using hardware decoding automatically take advantage of the Bravia Engine when it is enabled. Try it out, switch between HW and SW decoding (with BE on) and you'll notice the difference

The easiest way to tell if it works? Take a screenshot of the video playing. If the video image shows up on the screenshot you're looking at software decoding which doesn't take advantage of the Bravia Engine. Video doesn't show up on the screenshot? Hurrah, Bravia Engine can kick in!
[Xperia Z General] mattman83:
Much better, I think we really need to assume that the CES units had a different screen setup as these viewing angles are radically different. I know this video is likely to have the bravia engine running as well - but it's waaaaay more different than that could explain.

M.
[Xperia Z General] samxool:
thanks!

i always use HW mode by default, so yay! Bravia Engine baby!:p
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
Thank goodness that I wasn't drinking/eating as I read that. rm/rmvb are terrible formats, and most encoders that can output it are crap. H.264 (and H.265 soon) are much better and get decoded in hardware and not software, meaning better battery life. If you really watch anime, you should know that all the source files are in H.264 for modern releases and the odd XviD/H.263 for older SD releases at the source.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
I agree, rm/rmvb are probably the worst possible formats - but that doesn't change the fact that MANY anime releases use it, i have no idea why.
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
Original releases don't - I idle in too many fansubbing groups' IRC channels to not know this... I occasionally talk to encoders on the more obscure aspects of H.264 encoding too.... Re-encodes on the other hand....
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
I was not talking about the quality of the formats I was talking about it's availability and most animes(At least what I mostly found) are either on RM/RMVB formats. Well I was able to play it on MX Video player anyways and yeah I got almost 23gb of animes encoded into this format on my microSD card.
[Xperia Z General] shem2409:
Yet another Xperia Z video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWk-kct-PVA

New video just showed up on youtube and the screen just looks amazing.
[Xperia Z General] kyogiro:
Re: Xperia Z screen

It sure looks brighter than the unit I tested 1 week ago. But I'm waiting for the official release and some extended comparison tests regarding the screen.
[Xperia Z General] bazzanaja:
would like to know how the screen fares under sunlight. Currently the iphone still beats any other screen outdoors.
[Xperia Z General] ZeDestructor:
If you know where to look, you can get the better, cleaner, properly encoded files. PM me if you want some help finding them. I've got almost 500GiB of anime that I stream over wifi (yay well-tuned wifi+LAN setups)... Someday I'll to buy them all in DVD/Blu-Ray...
[Xperia Z General] thejosetree:
I really hope that it's not the same case as Xperia TX with different batches with different screens:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2010335
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
If it is i will keep claiming warranty issues till i get a new device :))
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
Re: Xperia Z screen

Im paranoid now. One thing i do detest is dead pixels
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Exactly, the hassle of sending the device back and all sorts, also cloves first batches are always faulty for me. I am not biased in anyway just basing it of personal experience. I mean i bought the note 2 and they sent me a Portuguese device, so i returned it then they sent me a device with a dead pixel so i sent that back, either way i don't trust handtec, i'll be sticking with carphone warehouse :)!
[Xperia Z General] MichaelDuncanx1:
Sony Xperia Z

Sony Xperia Z display looks great, but when side by side (without calibrating the whites) the whites don't look as bright as the whites on iPhone 5 & HTC One X. which I am dissappointed about cause Sony said the display is super bright and even on Google it says Xperia Z display gives out "Super bright whites" well maybe it does bright out super bright whites-just shows whites on iPhone 5 & HTC One X are brighter than the whites on Xperia Z. and also the camera on Xperia Z it looks so blurry and wobbly. Sony should stop just putting the megapixels and working on the damn clarity! Lumia 920 camera in Low-Light and in Low-Light Conditions Lumia 920 camera is alot better than Xperia Z camera. I am changing my mind about Getting Xperia Z.
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
Is this something you have seen your self with a production xperia z, or dit you see this on YouTube?
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
I see you made the same comments about the video posted by 2FreshMedia on YouTube. From that video I thought the whites looked fine, and were just as good as the iphone5.
[Xperia Z General] Warrimonk:
Re: Xperia Z screen

Doesn't this phone come with screen calibration software (like what you find in TVs)?? If this is true you could just adjust how the screen looks to your preferences....
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Indeed it does, initially it did not come on the final production developer devices but after an update it came :)
[Xperia Z General] jigarpatel22:
Display comparison

check out display comparison on xperia blog.

xperiablog.net/2013/02/11/xperia-z-display-comparison-roundup/
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
Ok that comarison restores some faith..the are 2 sides as i see it..The XZ is set to full brightness and thats why it gives out the washed out look in comparison to others. But when u look at the pics straight u can see XZ gives more vibrant colors than the rest..also rest look very dull (although accurate colors in case of Butterfly)..again looking at the comparison with AMOLED displays..u can see from 180c angle u cant see anything..it goes dark..on XZ, although it looks washed out, at least u can see the image. It isnt dark.. But again we will have to see how the amoled 1080p do..for now this is the only comparison.

So looking at this detailed analysis of mine :P i would say that every sceen tech has its benefits and disadvantages..Amoled will always looks dull, tft lcd will be more bright but a little washed out..And one thing about viewing angles is though they dont matter to me, i wouldnt want people to easily peek into my device while i am messaging, mailing etc..So in the end u cant get the best of both worlds! Enjoy :cool:
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Apparently this looks more better in person, i shall try to get some pictures or videos today, im going to my local three store, they seem to have some on display, ALTHOUGH my ONE X CAMERA SUCKS
[Xperia Z General] Ashalak:
Would definetely be interested in hearing your opinion as I've not heard of another hands on one who's already had a HOX which is my current phone! I've got a Xperia Z on Pre-Order and the HOX has a really good display, I certainly won't be happy unless it's as good if not better :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Mee too, the HOX display was very good, and I am really nit picky about displays i'm going to pop in store in half an hour, then you will get my review here if they have it on display

lets hope it lives up to my expectations :)!
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looks ok

Out of luck. They have the pre production model. Still looks very nice. Feels very solid. Have to say even on the pre production models the display is very vibrant and crisp. Camera was very fast. With No lag.
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looks ok

Does it get your approval??

Im popping to Liverpool later today, am hoping some stores will have display handsets.
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Maybe you could give your thoughts on the display when you take a look at the Z?
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looks ok

Yes it does. Feels nice in the hand. Fit in my hand perfectly. Some have said out feels plastic. This is due to the shatterproof film. Also it doesn't make it feel cold to touch. Feels like very smooth acrylic glass mix feel when you touch. I think it makes it feel nice.

The display was very vibrant, eye popping. Colors were so sharp.

The pre production model looks nothing like the production videos. It is similar to the xperia T.

The production model video on post 1 definitely miles better. I.Will do a full personal review on here.1st March when I get it. Compared to my one x.

The camera was so responsive and sharp. No lag when moving it around.

Fit in my pocket perfectly just like the one x. Due to it being slim you could not tell the difference between the one x and this.

After seeing it in person today. It is beautiful. I can definitely live with it two years. I'm keeping my pre order and eagerly wait. I was considering the m7

But sticking to this now
[Xperia Z General] omersak:
How did you find the screen vs. the one x - outside of the gallery. The homescreens, web browser etc.

I played with a test unit and the screen wasn't quite up to par - but it was magnificent in the gallery when the BE2 processing kicked in.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
I was ok, as i said the production models look far superior to the demo units, i will try and collate more videos.
[Xperia Z General] sneakingimperator:
I hope the production models looks far superior.

Thank you @viper for your contribution (aid)
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looking good! [UPDATE 12/02]

Your welcome. Well definitely keep posting with more updates.

Just went into Manchester three store and had a look at their demo unit. Dat down for 5 minutes with it. Button on the side feels very good to press. You feel the satisfying click when you press it. Very nicely positioned i.think. only gripe is the screen on the demo units. Just have to wait for the production ones now
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
some pics from a xperia z screen taken with a good quality camera:

http://www.androidaustralia.com.au/...anufacturers/hands-on-with-the-sony-xperia-z/

looks very nice,

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how do you know that it is a pre-production unit? seems so strange to send that out as a demo unit if it is very inferior to the real deal
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looking good! [UPDATE 12/02]

Because they have had it for a while. They call it demo unit. But I asked if it is pre production. They said yes there could be some changes to the final model.

But thinking about it I could live with the viewing angles on the pre production models. Gives privacy

But the production units would be better looking at you tube vids

Also no bloatware on units at all. No 3 logos or apps inside. The handset was unbranded. More than likely if it was a final retail device it would have threes software on it.

All demo units will be destroyed after launch. They were built with cheap materials. Wait till 1st March. I'm going to picture my hox and z side by side and compare
[Xperia Z General] Warrimonk:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looking good! [UPDATE 12/02]

:( what a waste. They should sell them at half price or something.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Or give them away. I'd be very happy with "only" pre-production unit :) Or donate them to devs or something... such a waste, maybe not final devices - but still great phones.
[Xperia Z General] hebbe:
destroying them makes sense.

when the final devices are out, and someone is struggeling wether to buy XZ or not, and he gets hold on such a pre-production device with the cheap materials and the poor quality....he then might tend not to buy this device because of the one he saw. sony wants to make sure that then there are only high quality retail devices on the market. and what about warranty or support for the cheap sold pre-production devices?

until the device is finally released, preproduction devices are ok, because everyone interested is for sure knowing they might be pre-production, and having them is better than having no devices for demonstration purposes.

just my guess...
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen on production models looking good! [UPDATE 12/02]

I agree with you totally. Got told by Carphone warehouse. Mine well be delivered on the 28th
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
15 days to go, really cannot wait.
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
So I went to Liverpool to attend a passport interview and thought it would be a great opportunity to visit a Three store. So after spending half an hour wondering about like a fool because I couldn't find the Three store. Finally went into the Carphone Warehouse and asked for directions. Turned out I had walked past it twice!! (There was an elevator hiding it). On my way to the train station I also found another Three store. So I played with 2 XZ's.

My analysis....

The handset itself is well built, I really like it. (I couldn't have a proper hold of it because the stores were using 100% metal security holders.)

Crisp! I thought the screen was nothing short of amazing. The colours can look drab in Sony's UI, but remember they have used drab colours, such as the grey transparent box behind the icons in the app drawer, bad choice, it would make any screen look washed out! Some popular icons like Gmail and Chrome, the colours on those were as good as they are on my S3. With pictures and videos I personally preferred the screen over my Galaxy S3. The viewing angles I found weren't that bad, but then again I've never taken an interest in them with any phone I've had! I don't think they are bad at all, at the same angle I looked at the Z's screen, my Galaxy shows a sort of 'luminescence' as such and the Z did not. Screens are for looking directly at not at a 180degree angle, come 'on!

One thing that did concern was that you can see the pattern of the digitizer. I didn't notice this in the first store because there lights weren't that bright. In the 2nd store is was clearly evident but then again there was a light directly above the handsets. It only concerns me because I haven't seen this on a phone since I had my HTC desire HD. There's dots in a grid about half a cm apart from each other, and there's also smaller pattern in-between these 'dots'. I don't know if that's to do with the shatter proof film?? Its certainly not visible on the GS3.

Loudspeaker seems ok, can't say much as the first store had quite loud ambient music. Didn't get a chance to test in the 2nd store as they chucked everyone out as they were closing.

Notification Led. 1st device green, 2nd device orange.

The phones were very responsive to the touch, fluid and quick, no hang ups. Was a tiny bit of lag between widgets but not off-putting. My GS3 reloads widgets all the time and hangs for a few seconds quite frequently. Same Android version on the S3 as the Z.

I'm certainly not cancelling my pre-order! Can't Wait.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
I felt the same way it was amazing, did they have the pre production model or the production model,

By the way i sometimes see those little dots on my one x under certain light, they were also there on my desire hd and hd2 as well i think, quite common lol
[Xperia Z General] SevenD2:
Give it to a developer so they can flash it until it dies while developing software~
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
I think they all have pre-production units. I didn't ask them because as soon as I walked in the door they were trying to pitch at me, So I told them a white lie, that I had already pre-ordered with 3 and wanted to test the phone, then they left me to it.

I have pre-ordered on O2 through carphone warehouse with the free headphones.

I would imagine though that they do have pre-production units, just a guess though, because there was no 3 branding on the handset or 3 bloatware on it.

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I'd also like to say that I didn't find it a fingerprint magnet. My hands were cold so whether this would have prevented fingerprint I do not know.
[Xperia Z General] archheretic:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen PHENOMENAL with good viewing angles!!! [POST 1 UPDATED 13/02]

I just had a play with a demo unit at Sony centre in prahran, Melbourne. I don't know if it was a production model or not, but screen was really really nice. Saturation was great, it definitely wasn't washed out next to my s2. Feels awesome in the hand, not slippery at all. Didn't feel any bigger than the s3 in a good way. Any one got any other questions?
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
did the screen look like the videos in post 1
[Xperia Z General] archheretic:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen PHENOMENAL with good viewing angles!!! [POST 1 UPDATED 13/02]

My 3g is having some issues in the area I'm in, so can't get videos to load to compare sorry. But can say I had no issues with viewing angles at all. I'm normally very picky with screens, and I think this is at least comparable to HTC one x screen in my brief hands on.hate the Sony launcher though, ugly as sin. Especially the app drawer, and animations are clunky between screens. Will definitely replace with apex or nova
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
Re: Xperia Z IPS Screen PHENOMENAL with good viewing angles! [POST 1 VIDEOS UPDATED13

Cant wait im goin on Sunday to the nunawading store, cheers for the info