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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] clouds5:
Guess it depends on where you using it. But i got the transformer and i basically use the keyboard only as an extra battery when i'm on the road (which is nice!).

The situation when i need to type something soo long that i would actually take the keyboard out and plug it in are extremely rare. And when i do, there is no real software to do that in an efficient way. As a teacher the stuff i type and create usually needs some level of "beauty" :D and there is no app that is good enough atm (nor printer drivers) so a transformer pad would replace a Laptop.

So if I create something text based on my Transformer prime, i send it to my dropbox and finish it in word on my PC/Laptop afterwards anyway. Simply a software issue though! But nevertheless, for note taking/PDF annotation a wacom digitizer would be much more efficient than the keyboard. And for those rare situations, a BT keyboard will do just fine.

My next tablet will be with a digitizer, probably the successor of the note 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ziprar:
I love my note but I do miss 1080p (or higher) res display... cant wait for a successor :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Until they use a MUCH more powerful CPU you aren't going to get full HD with a wacom digitizer.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] UserNamer:
Why not? It's a genuine question, as I am not familiar with the technologies involved.

Wacom's release of the Cintiq 13HD seems to indicate that they can do 1920x1080 on a digitizer connected to a computer, but I have no idea how that relates to one built in to a tablet or phone. Link to Cintiq specs
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Well you answered your own question. It is connected to your computer which has a FAR more powerful cpu than the Note 10.1. It takes a powerful CPU to push all those pixels around for lagfree inking with a digitizer pen. Why the Surface Pro has a pen but the Surface RT doesn't.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SCHMANKii:
I'm also very interested in the successor of the Note 10.1.

There are actually only two high end 10.1" Android tablets out there (Note 10.1 and Xperia Tablet Z), but I don't want to buy any of them. The Xperia 'only' has a Snapdragon S4 in it and this chip is no longer state of the art and there are no special features of the tab. I don't want to buy a tablet that has 'old' hardware already when I buy it. It's the same with the Note... It might seem strange but some of you might understand me :P

As I want to buy a 10.1" tablet I'm eagerly waiting for a Note 10.1 successor and would be happy if there were any new information.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kcrudup:
FWIW, I've used one and it's very snappy (even moreso, it appears, than my 10.1), and it also has a far-higher resolution display. It's lighter than the Note 10.1 and is running AOSP, as well (but to be sure, our tablet is a capable tablet and I like the added features TouchWiz brings).

I'll likely be picking up the 3G model once it becomes available.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] :
There's going to be a Samsung "Galaxy & Ativ" Event on June 20 in London.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Hopefully they reveal something new for the note 10.1 line
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Dugall12:
I just bought a note two days ago from best buy, should I return it and wait? I jumped on the note during a memorial day sale and got a free Samsung case with it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Tbh the only reason to return and wait would be if you can't stand not having the latest model or specs. The current note 10.1 will last a few years easy and with prices lowering why not. Any new successor is going to cost $$$ that's for sure
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Love it how you can just return it in your country because you found out a new model is coming soon. Wish I can do that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kcrudup:
I wouldn't. The Note 10.1 successor has been rumored to have an Intel (x86) processor in it, and if that's the case then fewer than half the apps out there will be incompatible with it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SCHMANKii:
Well, at the moment there is nothing. There are no leaks, pictures or anything. Only the event on June 20 can maybe bring us more. But I don't think they will talk about the Note there. The S4 Mini is far closer to be unveiled, an S4 Active or whatever as well. And Ativ has nothing to do with the Android section as you all know.

In my opinion you can stick with the current Note if you don't feel bad to have a little outdated device (which it really is (Snapdragon 600, higher resolution...)). But although you keep this in mind the note still is powerful.

Do you really believe that?

I can't... Samsung wouldn't do that. They are kind of 'shy' in their evolution of the devices (you see it at the all the same looking devices and so on I think) and have the expectation to make a tablet for everyone and sell millions of it. And x86 processor with nearly no apps wouldn't fit. I think they just move on to Snapdragon 600 or to their octacore or whatever. Like they did in case of the S4.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kcrudup:
Hey, "it ain't over 'till it's over" and it's all rumor 'till they're actually in customers' hands, but now even Reuters believes that at least one of the upcoming (10"?) Notes will have iNtel iNside.

But should this be the case, like you, I wonder how they'll market it- it'll be a tough sell when a large portion (half?) of the Play Store's apps won't be available.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SCHMANKii:
Yeah O.o

The upcoming Galaxy Tab indeed seems to have an Intel processor in it.

A blog or forum or whatever (can't remember anymore) speculated that there might be some dual boot devices (Android and Windows) in the future and therefor Intel processors were the best choice. The reason Samsung goes for an Intel processor now is that they can have a huge piece of the cake just from the beginning when it comes to these devices.

But also nothing but a rumor!

I would not like to see an Intel in the next Note. I somehow don't like Intel in the world of Android. On my PC I would always prefer Intel over all.

But let's just hope Samsung shows something to us on June 10.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Dugall12:
Best buy is cool like that, they give you 15 days to return so I did. I think all the promotions going on a Samsung tabs are a sure indicator that new models are coming. It's not that I mind having a last gen product but it does suck if a newer better version comes out a month later. Plus given the fact that older hardware is less likely to see system updates I'd rather buy as new as I can.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] harajyuks:
Just returned my tf700t today after about 8 months of useage for the note 10.1. Those warranties are good for more than just current device replacement. If somethimg new comes outs in the next 2 months I will definitely be trading in again. Sometimes I love box stores, sometimes they suck, but in the end its all about working the system.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lgkahn:
tab 3 10.1 inch announced today.. note 10.1 still superior
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] seventwozero:
Notice the styling change though? I seriously hope (doubt) that the new note 10.1 does not follow the same design as the tab 3 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Tab 3 10.1 looks ugly as hell and has horrible specs wtf Samsung. They are making every device a giant phone. Current 10.1 is boss compared to that thing..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fbrn:
They just announced a toshiba with wacom digitizer. I doubt that it will do as good in that the s pen support as there for so many apps however the screen and processor sound good. Have not been impressed with Toshiba in the past though . http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/toshiba-excite-pure-excite-pro-excite-write/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Looks like Toshiba did some work. The pro and write versions seem like good products and that USB and HDMI + memory card slots is nice
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SCHMANKii:
Yeah, they seem quite good.

On my smartphone I really like Vanilla Android (I've got a Nexus 4), but on a tablet it would be nice to have TouchWiz I think.

That Multi-Window or Airplay seems really nice and makes sense on a 10 inch device.

That's why I'd prefer a Note of the next gen over the Toshibas (although they have really nice hardware).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tehriddler:
Watch out, Samsung, a new Note competitor will be out soon. :eek:

It also has front facing speakers. And comes with a keyboard dock.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sledgie:
Yes, so does that mean there is a WACOM digitizer at that 2560x1600 resolution or does it downscale to 1280x800? This seems interesting, if they take notes (pun intended) from samsung on how to do it right. Plus keyboard? Now thats a game changer. I am concerned with the reliability of toshiba so they will have to prove to me their support and reliability and durability of their tablet. Samsung already has me as a customer...but with the recent SoC news of their big.LITTLE technology, I'm not sure it can support full screen digitizing at that high resolution. Seems like Tegra 4 also has to prove to me their reliability after I've experienced their previous two generations and all they proved was crap, but at least it seems Toshiba is willing to take a gamble on this. I wish Samsung would hurry up and let some news slip about their Note 10.1 successor. I would like a higher resolution and possibly a 11.6" scrwen but I know not everyone wants this. I would just like more real estate and the ability to write on a screen the size of a 8.5x11" so it would be true to form. Yes keyboard would be nice too....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
The screen and wacom digitizer are the same reaolution the digitizer doesn't down scale itself from the HD screen.. so if its a 1080p screen everything is
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] c903jerk:
What do you think of Note 20.2?Double the size
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] matapo:
Also waiting for an announcement for the 10.1 successor- thanks to the OP for this thread! I almost bought myself a current Note 10.1, but seeing as the successor will almost certainly be out later this year, I'm holding off for a little more. I only wish that some information would leak with regard to a release date! Waiting in anticipation...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apallohadas:
There will always be a successor to every device. If you keep waiting, you'll be too old to hold the S-pen :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] matapo:
Haha while that is indeed true, I'm not going to rush a buy for a 10 month old model and then have the successor announced a month/two later with features that would have made me happier. Or even buy the 10 month old model and have the price drop a month later, because of the newer model. :p

So I totally agree with you when one anticipates a long wait, but not when the successor is a month/two away, by all indications. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] asdfuogh:
Unfortunately, a slightly sharper display isn't enough to make me drop the $600 to get a new tablet again.. I seriously wish they'd go with a bigger display as well. :/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] HeartStrong07:
I waited for the Verizon version and glad I did ... while I love the product, my wish list is 1) sharper display, 2) snappier processor .. I experience a touch lag, or slowest, 3) improvements in S-Pen pressure and 4) much better flexibility in sharing S-notes in other applications ..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sledgie:
Looks like Sammobile.com is reporting succesor to Note 10.1 will be 12.2" with 2560x1600 with Sharp taking over the screen. I hope this is coming soon..http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/10/samsung-and-sharp-busy-to-prepare-a-122´´-tablet/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nymviper1126:
Can you give me lottery numbers? http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...-note-122-leaks-set-for-third-quarter-release
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SCHMANKii:
Oh my god, really? Do they really want to replace a 10.1" device by a 12.2" one?

I've got an ultrabook with 11.6" that is also usable as a tablet (Sony Vaio Duo 11), but this is quite huge yet.

Ok, the weight is not comparable as it weights more than 1kg, but the screen itself is too huge I think...

Don't know whether I would buy it or not...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jaydubbbbs:
buy tesla stock on the dips :D. And I want the 12.2 now
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kkretch:
Laptop size....... Not for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sledgie:
I like the idea of it but I still need more details like processor, RAM, battery life, etc. And there needs to be accessories as soon as it comes out this time. I like the Sammy cover/stand. But we all will need details. I'll tell ya, if it wasn't for this 1280x800 screen I might never upgrade this 10.1. I do like the idea of a larger screen for more real estate. But something tells me this won't be the only upper end tablet coming out. Maybe there will be another note 10.1 but with Samsungs processor, or a Windows 8/Android combo. But the 12.2 will be the upper end....and will it have Intel processor? What does Barry think and speculate about all this? Do the Blue Chips have an interest in the 12.2 or do they feel 10.1 is enough. Also lets not forget Toshiba is getting into this game next month with the Tegra 4 and Wacom 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
I think I would like 12.2 inches. Intel processor would probably kill it for me though
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] asdfuogh:
Larger display area is what would make me upgrade. I mean, I say 13"-15" because I'm thinking it would still have that huge bezel, but if they thin it out like the S4, then I could see 12" or even just 11" being enough.

Seriously though, I wish they'd just pump out some Transformer like docks because my work is starting to get to the point where I need to type **** instead of just writing stuff. :/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mrfrosty:
10.1 describes the screen size, not the series number. There shall be no Note 10.2's or 11's (unless Samsung creates devices of these sizes)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aftnoon2:
Please, I've just buy the 10.1 end March. Don't begin to talk about a successor!:D

What doesn't likes me too much is that Samsung begun to sell Note 8 in Spain a few weeks ago... That's what I would desire as tablet size, with Spen. But I had no notice of this device till it was on market place.

Successor or not successor, there's not too much movement on the new Roms side...:crying:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] killerskincanoe:
u say 12.2 is too big but sony just released the 13in duo slider. tablet / ultrabook.

that thing looks sexy as hell too

pen and all

it'll dual boot android before the it's day is done im sure
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ckavvouras:
Lol I know I'm coming to get blasted for saying this but....we have become very spoiled with resolution, next year this tune I'm sure we will be reading how a 320 poi isn't enough and how you can still see the pixels when you put it under a magnifying glass :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aftnoon2:
I think manufacturers are a little obsssed by the Asus way: the Transformer line and all that stuff.

For me, is no bad; but, don't you think 12 or 13'' are too much for a really portable machine?

About 10''+about 500grames is the maximum for a good combination of portability+usability, IMHO...:angel:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] killerskincanoe:
honestly if this same form factor we are discussing, was utilized on an 8" or 9" device i'd be sold. instantly.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] calum96:
I think of they made the screen bigger but kept the same dimensions of the note 10.1 it would look good... like the s4 the screen nearly touchs the sides and its look sexy as!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nymviper1126:
ATIV Q! Dual boot Win 8/Android 13.3in 3200x1800 with S-Pen, and slide out keyboard!

OMG!!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kcrudup:
... and an X86 processor. Say goodbye to half the Play Store :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] titooo7:
That device looks great! The only bad thing is that it will be really expensive for sure.

By the way, am I the only one that can't stand those videos where they try to prove how smooth it is running apps like angry birds? I don't think there is a single device that can run angry birds without problems.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Marco Lomas:
What did you say? The majory of apps work on x86, i have a motorola razr i whis is the second x86 android phone so, please inform yourself

Intel device - Razr i Owner

Hit thanks if i help you or you like my style
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sciurius:
I occasionally test things with AndroidVM (x86 + houdini) and several apps do not work. Apps that do not use native extensions (i.e., the majority) are generally okay.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Sher The Love:
I'm really disappointed they didn't announce the Note 10.1 successor at their event. I've been waiting to buy a tablet for the past 6 months that's worth keeping. An updated note with a higher resolution screen for under $600 would be it.

At this point, I'm wondering if they're releasing a successor to the note 10.1. I really hope they aren't just trying to cover it with the ativ Q. Its going to be at least a grand.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kkretch:
Watch this if you want to know what Samsung will have for us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtisk0-mY_0&feature=g-subs-u
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Sher The Love:
What are you getting from the premier event that has to do with the next galaxy note tablet?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] :
Actually I really, really like the idea of the Samsung Ativ Q, bringing together Windows and Android on one device and having a S Pen. Android is as far as I know emulated, so we have to see how the performance and battery life will work out.

But one thing I also ask myself is the following question: Do I REALLY need a mobile OS if the device has a fully functioning Windows OS?

I think I will wait out the first reviews to get an impression about the practicality of bringing both worlds together on one device. Condemning the device wouldn't be fair. Samsung really tries to produce more innovative devices. For people like students, programmers or graphic designers or generally people who work a lot out of office or who have a long commute to work or uni, this would be a great device (at least theoretically). I'm a bit skeptical about 4 GB RAM and 128 GB HD, but for a tablet which you are just using on-the-go it could be sufficient.

Does anybody know whether it has a Wacom digitizer or not?

EDIT: I guess the REAL successor of the Note 10.1 will be presented together with Galaxy Note 3 at IFA 2013 in September

EDIT 2: I've just read that the Ativ Q won't have any mobile data functionality, just Wifi. That's a huge deal breaker for me. It also makes no sense selling a premium mobile device without 3G/LTE.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] madsquabbles:
using my windows tablets daily, i really miss the touch friendliness of android. for that reason I'll always have at least one android tablet. id be better off selling my 500t and 700t and getting the q. i really do question the durability though especially with that thin screen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] :
Samsung SM-P900: 12.2-inch, Exynos 5 octa, 2560x1600, S-pen :good:

Source: https://twitter.com/evleaks/statuses/361194779398242305
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Buji:
Fairly excited for this. I just wonder how thin they will go with the bezel to keep it from being too huge.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] The_Maverick:
Bezel due to Wacom digitizer

I'm looking forward to hearing more about this too. But the bezel worries me a little too. They won't be able to make it too small, though, because of the Wacom digitizer, right? I read that that digitizer is inaccurate at the edges, so they have to extend it beyond the actual display to make sure the inaccuracies are somewhere where they don't matter.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ckavvouras:
I hate to be the one to break it to you guys that are in here *****ing about bezel size but the average human thumb is about 3/4 inch wide, that being said if the tablet has no bezel how the frack do you plan on holding the thing? Not to mention when your gaming and your palms are making contact with the digitizer. Its Not that they can't make a tablet with a super thin bezel, its that it makes no sense to.

My only real fear for the next generation on note tablets is that they are going to get rid of the front facing speakers
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sledgie:
Let's hope not. Those front speakers are great. Other companies took note - yes, a pun. I'm setting aside $600 but I hope it's cheaper. I'm not too concerned about bezel - when has Samsung disappointed us, really? They're not idiots... they know users of Note 10.1 wanted bigger real estate, mimicing the size of A4, higher res... lets hope they get it done soon. I havent talked to too many people who are disappointed by the Note... especially those that use it for it's purposes...S pen.... I just hope it doesnt come out or become available in 2014...October 1st-15th sounds good to me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ckavvouras:
Doubt it will be cheaper if anything it will be more expensive.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jinda628:
I hope this comes ahead of the Note 3 so it wont be too hard on the pocket lol!

But if ever, I'll get this one 1st and stay with my Note 2.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Joey22688:
things they need to work on for the 2nd gen 10.1:

screen quality (at least 1920x1080 and 225+ ppi)

price tag ($500 is a little much, $399 or $349 would be better to compete with google)

connectivity (ditch the priority connector and go usb micro)

a better camera would be nice but not really needed
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ckavvouras:
I wouldn't say quality, I think the note 10 has a great quality screen, ppi is a bit low but the quality imo is great, if rumors and spec leaks are true next green screen will have ppi equal to the nexus 10.

The is no way in he'll you will see the next note tab for that price. I predict it to be the same as the first generation note tab, maybe a little more
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] erica_renee:
This i agree with .. The note line of devices are not Competing with anything or any other tablet.. Most quality brand name tablets are going up to 400.00 . I agree there is no way .Even if they could make it cheap enough they would Not sell it for less then 500.00 if the screen goes bigger expect 600. to 700.

I have seen the Note 10.1 used in the local hospital for medial stuff and physical therapist.

I WILL not be getting a note 3 and maybe not even the next generation of the 10.1 . I do not chase the next big thing and my Note tablet and phone Does all i need to do..