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[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
As I had mentioned in my other posts, I do not see customer service as an essential thing. So long as the product does not breakdown/causes issues. Like my Xperia S, only time it wasn't working properly was when my handset got that yellow screen issue which was fixed and I have not had an issues since then. JB update doesn't bother me too much as my device is working fine, although if it's released I will get it updated. But I'm not one to harp on and on and on about it like some.

I am not saying I will getting the Tablet Z. I am just saying do not shut it down when the product hasn't even launched. Yes you can have your reservations, but to accuse the company of wrong doings about future events that has yet to take place, seems a bit unfair. Yes I can understand some have had horrible experiences with Sony, but let's look and see at what happens. If you really hate your Sony products, get rid of it and move on. What good is bashing on forums over and over and over again going to do? It'll just cause you more heartache.

Plus my posts are mainly on the what is on paper, hardware stuff. It looks to be a pretty decent tablet. Specs wise, probably one of the best. And something that I have been looking for. But NOT saying I will be buying it! Just saying its a good tablet that meets MY definition of a tablet that I would like to own. And I can't see any other tablets meeting MY definition.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
Unless Sony stole money from his wallet I think he GAVE them his money in return for an (albeit glitchy) product :p and are now appear to be willing to exchange that product for an XTZ - thats a pretty good deal if they actually follow through with it!

We will never all agree, but it would appear the prevailing themes are:

- Looks like a nice bit of hardware

- Lets hope they update the software in a relatively timely fashion

- Some people hate Sony for their customer service, some just dont care.

Personally, I have dealt with Sony team a lot over the past 2 months with my Xperia Tablet S but on both occasions where they have failed me, they have sorted the issue out (eventually) and on both occasions compensated me sufficiently for me to still hold a bit of faith in them...lets hope they don't let me down!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
They sold me a useless brick and a over priced universal remote that randomly shuts down like 3 times a day.

I dunno about you but if i where sony dev i had this issue fixed within 24 hours that i heared or find out about issue.

Shame i never did decided to learn programing language.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Zer0 for your own well being, please move on and get a different tablet. No point on moaning about the past. It clearly was a mistake getting that tablet. If Sony isn't going to do anything about it, take your future business elsewhere. If I were you I'd ditch the tablet and move on to a Nexus.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
You wanna buy my tablet and its accesoires then cous no one will.

seriously quit being troll, where all sony customers and have equal rights you, all you been saying so far is to **** off in your own way.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
Thanks for the wrap-up!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Gonna probably still exchange just not for tablet z, i am trying to see if they willing to exchange my 16 gb vision for 32 gb vision for free.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
OMG Zer0. I was just trying to be nice and offer a sensible advice. If you hate your product, freaking ditch it. Since you can't sell it, you just have to absorb the cost this time, and don't make the same mistake in the future.You can't do much else as you have whined to Sony all your life and nothing has happened. Just dump it and move on. That is what I would do.

Stop being soo emotional and calling everyone who disagrees with your views a troll. Grow up!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
And, even mostly, stops complaining here. If you had problems, and will not buy XTZ, why you (Zer0) still keeps posting here again and again?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys any idea if Google has any plan to release next version of Nexus 10???

I think its useless to wait till June for Xperia Tablet, i think I will go back to Nexus 10, plz share ur opinion.

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Anyone considering canceling their pre orders because of poor batery life ?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Moscow Desire:
Please keep things on topic folks.

Thanks.

MD
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Streamed just under four hours of 720p movies from my Plex server with Facebook, email, Twitter, and social life still syncing at regular intervals. Battery started at 100% and was down to 65% to me that's not poor battery life. But I guess everyone has their own opinions on that. Remember only a 6000 mAh battery with 1080p screen.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
still legit question.

How do similar tablets with similar resolution and hardware perform tough if their anything close ?

ofcourse asuming it has about same size batery asswell.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
It's a valid option given that you cannot wait. The Nexus 10 is a great tablet and it’s not hard to come up with a couple of reasons to choose it over the Xperia Tablet Z right now.

As for myself, the “rounded” borders just put me off too much – I know it’s shallow :) I will keep my XTZ pre-order.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
It's there any other tablet with this screen size and resolution with the same or close to the same battery size? Don't think so, so it's really hard to compare this one to anything else.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Yeah even I dont liked the design thats y I sold it but seeing XTZ getting delayed (and it will be around SGD 800 in Singapore initially) better getting Nexus 10 for time being, will see XTZ later !!

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Poindexter80:
Plastic film on the screen

Does this tablet have the same plastic film on the front screen as the Xperia Z phone?

If so, is it easy to remove and is the Sony-logo printed on the film or on the tablet itself?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
The battery life should be OK for my needs since I am planning to use the tablet mainly as a media center at home where a power plug is always at hand. Additionally according to the tests performed by “Spectre51“ – see post above, the Xperia Tablet Z should be able to survive about 8 hours of streamed HD videos in a single battery charge. That is definitely more than enough for me.

What people should be aware of is that the “world’s thinnest tablet” design comes with a price. If you travel a lot and need your tablet to hold for days without recharge, you should NOT buy the Xperia Tablet Z. But I think Sony is catering to a different kind of user here.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
Any if you do travel alot and need external battery, spend £35 and get a 12,000mAh battery pack which will charge the tablet no bother...twice!! Ch-ching!! :D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
I would personaly go for 7 inch tablet or decent smartphone for traveling.

Smartphone with lot batery life but decent enough performance least.

People should't get me wrong btw, i don't hate sony i hate sony's android team thats clearly slacking.

I'm actualy still considering buying xperia SP in may or later.

If not found any alternatives.......

Thats what if been trying to explain before with xperia tablet s.

Sony is currently only one with for example IR blaster in their tablet.

Samsung is comming with one but i'm totaly anti samsung and i'm quite proud off it.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Does the WiFi version launched in Japan or its only LTE version as of now for Japan???
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Cat McGowan:
What is your rush? Waiting two months to compare reviews before purchasing either tablet will not cause your world to come to an end.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Well unfortunately you have to live with their shortcomings if you want their products. So far I have not had much of an issue. So fine for me but not for others.

All we can do is wait and see what Sony will do with their android team. If they don't do much, given the 2 previous tablets and loads of phones, people will move on and send Sony back to their not too long ago struggling days.

I do fancy the Xperia Z for a phone but trying not to go on a spending spree since I really need a tablet first.

---------- Post added at 02:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 PM ----------

I think it's just the LTE version.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Why because sony to lazy to fix it ?

Unacceptable and thats exactly point i'm tryint to get across.

Nothing wrong with product but software makes it crap..........
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Lazy, don't want to/care, whatever. And if you think they will be like that in the future, then stop contemplating getting Sony products. Because you know you will be treated the same as in the past.

You personally would need to find a manufacturer that can satisfy your customer care needs since that appears to be your priority. Yes you will be losing some of the Sony features, but that is the price you would have to pay in order to get something else you want and which Sony won't be able to provide (for now). You complaining about Sony's attitude, post after post, on here won't make difference.

Yes they should improve customer care etc. but if they don't then move on to another that does or suffer through it and accept the choice you have made. At the end of the day, it is you who makes the final decision to stay or move. That is the point that I am trying to get across.

And sooner or later if Sony doesn't get their act together, they will suffer by customers moving on to other brands, they already have had a taste of that.

So if you do not want to suffer through another fiasco with Sony, then move on to other manufacturers. I am not in the same boat as you as I had not had an issue with Sony so far, so will still remain open to and welcome Sony products, albeit having a cautious attitude.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys,

Going forward only post if you want to share any info/news/queries about Sony Xperia Tablet Z !!

If you dont like or do not want XTZ, simply stay away, thanks !!!

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
Thanks! This thread was in danger of drifting out to No Man's Land...

@Zer0K3wL: Thanks for your input as well. You already got your point across quite clearly on several occasions. I would however wish to see less posts from you here unless you have any news on the Xperia Tablet Z development or market placement. In case you still have more hot air to vent out about your past experiences please start a new thread - e.g. [SONY CAN'T WRITE CODE] where your insights will be then relevant and by far more appreciated.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xzabre:
Well, you might say we should stay on-topic. But I'm afraid it's going to drift away from "Only official news" when the Tablet Z doesn't have a forum of its own. Where else should we discuss this, make a new topic and clutter the Tablet S forums? :confused:
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Moscow Desire:
Notice

Ok boys and girls. Once again, I have done a big thread cleaning. In reality, I really shouldn't have to.

This is not the official "Sony Complaint Forum". In fact, Sony probably doesn't even know this thread exists, nor do they care.

What concerns myself, and other moderators, is the fact that we constantly need to "clean-up" the messes made by some of you "users". Most of you know, or should have read the XDA rules, that we're pretty strict on flaming, name calling, and arguing in general. If you haven't read the rules, I suggest you do so now.

Also remember, XDA supports "Development". It's primary purpose is to further development for devices. Being a "help line" is just a "by-product", and something we just allow. And it certainly is NOT a Gripe and Complaint forum. This isn't Facebook, Classmates, MySpace, Hot-Dates, or any other type of Social Network.

XDA is NOT a democracy, and there is NO freedom of speech here. There are rules. Follow them.

Anymore useless, unproductive, posting in this thread, and I'll permanently close it, if not Delete it. This you can be assured. And if warnings and/or infractions are to be dealt, then this will happen also. Keep it clean folks, and post productive things.

Thank You

MD
[Xperia Tablet Z General] lokenok:
This tablet is fabulous tho hate waiting .. im so impaaatttieeenttt
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Poindexter80:
Also, does it handle movies in 1080p without breaking a sweat?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xzabre:
The last YouTube review I saw showed a bit of lag on the tablet.. :(
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Ubichinon:
Yes, it does. No problem at all.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Pre-orders in Japan are now shipping for the WIFI only version.

Why can't it ship in the UK at the same time? Still well over a month to wait for this. Just hope JellyBean will be released for the XTS as mentioned in Sony's post!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Seriously, SONY is too slow !!!

Right now there is NO other better alternative available for Xperia Tablet Z & they are delaying it, once Google will announce new devices at Google I/O, Apple announce new iPads, then Sony Tablet Z will be open for pre-orders !!

Wake Up SONY !!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Maybe idea but have seperate topic talking about sony's android update policy and software ?

Personaly i wan't this tablet to be sold best as posible so we have potentialy more unsatisfied customers in future.

People that planned to buy and like the design will buy it anyway, personaly i do like the tablet z asswell the looks.

but like if say'd before looks can be deceiving.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Your second phrase made no sense at all. You want the tablet to sell as much as possible to have more unsatisfied customers or you don't want the tablet to sell as much as possible so it doesn't have much unsatisfied customers?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
The more people buy the tablet, the more people notice the buggy software, the more people raise their voice, the more likely sony realise something wrong with the way they do things.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
I know, but the way you wrote it at start was confusing
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rdalev:
I thought the same thing about my Xperia Tablet S, until the random shutdowns, which I hear is occurring on the Tablet Z and Sony's total lack of support, addressing the issue......................Good Luck !
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Never experienced one random shutdown on the tablet while I had it for what it's worth.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xzabre:
New video: http://www.androidcentral.com/xperia-tablet-z-lanching-next-month-we-go-hands-once-again
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hydenobuyuki:
I did a lot of hands on time with the Docomo LTE version and the Wifi Model before they launched and I received my Xperia Tablet Z on April 12th.

I quite like it and now feel better that I've been spared the carrier headaches that would have gone with the LTE version and docomo.

While the WiFi model doesn't have a folding antenna, doesn't support 1seg TV, and doesn't support NotTV tv, it is considerably lighter than the LTE version.

After a week with this device, I'm trying to compile my list of complaints (which to be fair are ALL software and not so serious and may even be resolvable in some cases)

Whenever I plug in or unplug from power (including into the cradle), Chrome browser refreshes and reloads the page I'm on.

(This may be something to do with the SmartConnect's events firing despite all the device/event combination being deactivated)

Whenever I plug in or unplug from power, some video playback restarts to the beginning (which is annoying when streaming)

When you have an intent that can be handled by different apps, the menu requires me to click the app and then click either "Always" or "Just once" rather than the typical behaviour of requiring only 1 touch/click plus a check box to make it the default.

UPDATE: Felimenta97 mentions that it is a Jelly Bean thing so I can't blame the Xperia Tablet Z

That's it for now because everything else is pretty great about this tablet.

EDIT: PS

1.) In Japan, the LTE version was released in mid-march and the WiFi model launched on April 13th. Pre-orders (at least mine) shipped on April 11th.

2.) I have had NO random shutdowns or anything like that (which is more than I can say for my Xperia GX lately)

3.) I have had no trouble at all playing 1080p video

4.) I have no problems with battery life... the most it's been at the end of the day was 60-70% and that was including some maps, some ingress, and a bunch of SNS related usage.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Any chance of a system dump from the device please? :laugh::D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hydenobuyuki:
I think I would need root for that; Sorry.

Actually, I thought people already had dumps out there and were pulling pieces out and porting to other devices.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jumper62:
No. Enable usb debugging, connect to computer and do adb pull /system C:\(put location here)

eg C:\users\public\public documents
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
It would be appreciated :)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Trno:
Thats interesting there is no info about LTE and WIFI versions having different weights. Sony claims its 495g , how is it in reality ? 495 is for WIFI and LTE is heavier?

Also how fast does it charge?

Thanks
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jumper62:
Can't be much of a change in weight. You probably wouldn't feel it
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Trno:
Thats what i'm thinking but hydenobuyuki particulary said WIFI is "considerably" lighter hence my question.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
About the select player thing, it's an Jelly Bean thing, not Sony's fault.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hydenobuyuki:
okay, trying it now

It's noticeable when you pick up both devices. The Sony store in Ginza has both devices next to each other whereas the Docomo Smartphone Lounge only has Docomo LTE version. In the Ginza Sony Building where the Sony Store is, even have a scale there for you to compare the weight of the device vs. a regular half litre bottle of water. I personally was surprised at the difference in weight since I thought it would be negligible difference when I debating whether to get the LTE or Wifi model. It is strange though that both Sony Japan website and the Docomo website both list their products (The Wifi and LTE models respectively) as 495g.

My Wifi Xperia Tablet Z is 476g (I just weighed it)

I don't find charging particularily fast; It's about the same as my Galaxy Tab 10.1 but I've never compared them nor timed the charging. Plus, I've never had to charge the device from low power since it's never gotten that low.

Thanks; I didn't know that. The Xperia GX is still ICS and would likely continue to be so for some time.

UPDATE:

Where do people recommend I upload the system dump to?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] stifilz:
Please share your build.prop and I can find stock firmware and sort it out. :D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jumper62:
Upload on mediafire or Google drive
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Can you take some pics of your XTZ. Wanna see how the white one looks.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Good to hear some stuff about the retail version.

I have a few questions. Be great if you can provide insight:

1. How would you compare the performance with the Tab 10.1 (Nexus 10 as well if you have used it)?

2. Have you noticed any lagging, slow loads etc?

Thanks :)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
hydenobuyuki, you are very kind.

Thank you for posting the system dump, much appreciated.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
I said pics of the tablet not pics taken by the tablet.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
hydenobuyuki,

So would you recommend people the product?

Thanks for all your input :)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] ash6783:
really thinking of getting this .just worried about updates and fixes

sony wont want this to flop so im sure it will get quick fixes

read 16 reviews on jap site

every saying top tablet .slow charge ,batt good.screen good but not amazing

some say it get alot of finger prints on screen
[Xperia Tablet Z General] DooMLoRD:
if anyone has the Xperia Tablet Z and is willing to unlock bootloader please check out the following thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2240613
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Wow. Doom working on.XTZ... This is going to be an awesome...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Asiansniper911:
Play with the device in person, if there isn't a tablet breaking bug I would keep it despite slow updates.

On a side note does anyone have the wallpapers? Thanks.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] DooMLoRD:
well atleast to get root and recovery working :)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hydenobuyuki:
heh.. oops; Sure, I'll take some today.

Personally, I would. There are a lot of waterproof/dustproof devices out there in Japan now; it's become a mostly "standard" feature for smartphones in this market. However, there are only a handful of brands that are making their tablets waterproof (most predominantly Fujitsu Arrows) but this device is by far the best looking, best designed, and best feeling to hold of waterproof tablets.

If super high pixel density is important to you, then maybe the Nexus 10 is for you (if you live with its roundyness).

This has a nice, fairly pixel-dense screen with Bravia Engine 2 to help you (with photos and movies) but I doubt if it is the best screen out there.

The price will put some people off. Here, you can get the 32GB for the PPP equivalent of about $550 for WiFi or the the LTE for about $800 ($200 when carrier-subsidized) but for a lot of people, that is too much money to spend on this kind of device. In the end, it's still just a tablet and while fun, is not as productive as a different format device such as a notebook computer.

I've already gotten one update... not that that is all that surprising when products first launch.

I would expect this to get some small fixes pushed out deemed critical patches and get Android 5.X in a year but I would expect it to fair better than the LTE model especially in this market.

Top Tablet, yes - for the 10inch-ish range. It's the best tablet overall available to me in my market right now. In 3-4 months, it probably won't be.

Slow Charge - For me, all tablets charge relatively slow but it's never been a problem for me. I just charged 10% in 15-20 minutes but don't believe the numbers to be all that relevant unless they're from 0ish to 100%. However, I don't find it to be faster or slower charging than my Tab10.1

Fingerprints - absolutely yes on the front (not the back since the back is not glass). Added a screen protector last night and don't get anymore fingerprints although I'm sure it makes the display not look as good.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Asiansniper911:
Isn't there already a shatter film sheet on the screen or a screen protector pre installed I know Sony does the shatter sheet on the Z phone.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Yes there is

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Guys, if I pre-order from SONY UK, do I need to pay VAT???

I am in Singapore !!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Technically products sold overseas do not incur VAT. But not sure in the case of preordering something from Sony UK.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
What should I do? Should I get it from Japan - the wifi version??? :confused:

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Try contacting Sony UK. If they say that they can send it to you less the VAT, the item is only out in the UK at the end of May. You are better off getting the product from Japan as it is already out there.