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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jim_Philly:
Verified

Here ya go guys.... an exerpt from my online chat today, 2/4/2013...

Your RealTime session ID is RT13641138391.

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Jim: Would I be able to use an upgrade discount from another line on the family plan instead, and keep the unlimited data?

Kimberly F.: Yes, absolutely!

Jim: Okay, so to make sure I understand correctly... I have a line that has a basic phone on it currently. I can use the "transfer upgrade" option from that line to purchase a new smartphone, and activate that smartphone my unlimited data line without affecting the unlimited plan?

Kimberly F.: Correct

The difference with my situation is that each of my parents' lines has a basic phone with no data plan, and they're completely happy with their phones... so no need to shuffle my upgrade to their line and back, I'm just stealing my Dad's upgrade to buy the phone and activate it on my unlimited data line. So perhaps its a bit simpler for me than it is for those of you with multiple lines of unlimited data to try and maintain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hredder:
Guys I am gonna put an end to this question. .I have two lines. .mine and my father's on an 1400 with unlimited text. .I have a smartphone with the unlimited data. My father has a basic phone with no data. .I had the gs3 but wanted to upgrade to the n2..I used my upgrade but did an alternative upgrade and out my phonebon my father's line. Once activated I did an esn swap back to my line and still have the unlimited plan.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshw0000:
It'll be asked 100 more times...but yes, it works.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] billku:
It's asked a lot because there's conflicting info out there, from consumers, Verizon reps, etc. Obviously there's a lot at stake when using an upgrade, so when reps, both in the stores and online, tell you explicitly this doesn't work anymore, and they've actually seen it not work (ie people's plans get automatically changed to tiered), I think it's understandable that people are investigating a bit more thoroughly. It seems like it does still work, at least in some cases, but you really have to explicit with the reps and cover your ass.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshw0000:
Only a small percentage of reps know their @$$ from a hole in the ground. If you ask, "can I do this", 90% of the time you'll be told "no". If you say, "this is what I want to do", you'll have much better results. I've done it online and in the store. In both cases I was initially told it wouldn't work and eventually got a rep that understood and processed my request.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] billku:
I don't think there's any uniformity in this process. I'm sure many reps don't know what they're doing, but some do, or in the minimum they talk a good game. Many of the ones I talked to not only completely understood what I was trying to do, but had done it before successfully. They understood I was trying to use my upgrade and maintain my unlimited data by activating the upgrade on a dumb line and switching it back. So when they tell me it doesn't work anymore and they've experienced it not working (as I said, one guy who had done it for many people told me he went ahead and tried to do this for a customer a few days ago and saw afterwards that the guy's unlimited data had been switched to tiered) I don't jump to "they're all morons." What I did was find an online rep who said I could do it, made him notate my account to that end, saved our chat session as proof, then went ahead and ordered my phone online. So while I certainly agree there's a category of rep out there who doesn't think this will work and can be shown otherwise, there also seems to be a category of rep who thinks it DID work and now thinks it doesn't anymore, and hearing that, it made me be be very careful and I would understand why others are being ultra-careful as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] billku:
So activated the iphone I received today using this method. The first rep I called said it absolutely couldn't be done. Referred me to upper management and wanted me to FAX in the chat transcript from the rep that guaranteed I could do all this. So I called back, got another rep, and she activated the phone on my dummy line, no problem, and I still have my unlimited data. Going to switch it to my wife's line (which has unlimited data) tonight. Sometimes I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing that this giant company is so all over the map when it comes to their policies and how they enforce them. I guess it's a good thing as it allows us to skirt some policies, but it's frustrating having to deal with reps who insist opposite things are true...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bond32:
I think it's just such a gray area and there's been too much false information out there. I would bet a number of verizon employees are too stupid to think of an alternate upgrade and this method. All they know is unlimited data is gone.

The key in this process is to activate the new phone after purchase on a seperate line. If the phone is purchased at the upgrade price and activated on that line verizon matches it in their system and unlimited drops. If it's activated on a different line (ideally a non smartphone line) then the meid of the phone will show it has been activated. Once it is moved it would be no different than if you paid full price. This is just my theory of course.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mrlaigle:
Your plan cannot be automatically move to tiered. Someone would have to change it. The system will not do it itself.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshw0000:
^ What he said! You're in a two year agreement. If they change your plan without your consent, they are in breach of contract, therefore voiding the agreement and releasing you from contract.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] billku:
Guys, when you take them up on the upgrade, they renew your plan under the new guidelines unless you take the precautions outlined in this thread. I don't know if they automatically switch you to a tiered plan upon renewal unless you take the precautions, but that's certainly what many of these reps lead you to believe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mrlaigle:
Unless you are already on a shared plan it's an extra process that the rep would need to take to convert the account to the shared plans. Unless the rep is deceiving the customer, it is not something that should be done without a full conversation with the customer about their options.

I'm not saying that a rep wouldn't do it without the customer knowing, just that they would have to specifically intend on moving said plan to shared as just upgrading would not trigger it to happen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bond32:
Seriously this has been beaten to death. If you do an alternative upgrade which resigns your contract you can keep unlimited data .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] billku:
Jesus, this is a never ending loop. It's been beaten to death because the reps are are putting out signals that this method of keeping your unlimited data is ending. Yes, if you know what you're doing and if you keep trying with different reps you'll have success with this method, but it isn't as simple as "I'd like an alternative upgrade please with no roadblocks or resistance, thanks!" I know because I just went through it. What's been beaten to death are folks who think this method is smooth sailing guaranteed. I went to two stores and talked to two reps before I finally got a chat rep to guarantee I could upgrade this way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bond32:
Fair enough, agreed. Someone posted a while back and I agree, but if you start the conversation saying "this is what I want" rather than "can I do this" you will be far more effective.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Arikara:
I'm finding out new stuff here. I refused to use my up grade cause I didn't want to lose my unlimited data plan.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
I've had 4 new phones since unlimited data went away. I'm on a Note 2 right now with unlimited data.

It can be done. Repeatedly. If you know what you're doing ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] eraursls1984:
I've only had three, Droid Bionic, Droid RAZR MAXX, Galaxy Note 2, still have unlimited as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] derichio02:
Has anyone done this lately. Does it still work. I am eligible for upgrade and don't want to lose my unlimited. So I was going to transfer online and upgrade a dumb phone on my account then switch to preserve the unlimited on my line.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 2pezboy:
I am in the process of this now.

My wife and I were on individual Nationwide plans with unlimited data. A couple of weeks ago, I combined them onto the Nationwide Share plan with unlimited data (via online chat). Last Saturday, I added a smartphone line to our plan (Note 2) and immediately did an ESN change on the new line to a ghost basic phone (I did this in a Verizon store and am not sure if she activated the Note 2 on the new line or not). Then had the Verizon lady (still in store) do an ESN change to put the Note 2 on my line.

On Sunday, I transferred my wifes upgrade to the newly added line (that has a ghost basic phone on it). I then ordered a SGS3 on the new line (had to add the 2GB plan to that line in the process). The transferring of the upgrade and the ordering was done online.

The SGS3 should arrive tomorrow. At that time, I will activate the SGS3 on the new line. After activating, I will wait until I can see it on my Verizon account online to make sure it went through with no issues (will also check wife's plan to make sure still has unlimited).

Once confirmed, I will do an ESN change back to the ghost basic phone (which drops off the data plan and brings it back to $9.99 per month). This will free up the SGS3 and I will ESN change it to my wife's line (with unlimited data).

I will then watch our lines like a hawk for a month or so online to make sure we both kept unlimited data. If all went well, I will repeat the process with the upgrade on my line and probably sell the new device to help offset the cost of keeping the extra line on my account.

I will post an update to let you know how it goes in the next couple of days...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] derichio02:
Thanks I look forward to the updates!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 2pezboy:
Update....

The new SGS3 arrived on Wed. afternoon and I activated it on my non-unlimited line according to the directions that shipped with it. I left it on that line for a full day before taking it off.

I went to the Verizon retail store yesterday afternoon and had the Verizon lady put a dummy basic phone on my non-unlimited line (freeing up my new SGS3 and dropping my non-unlimited line back down to $9.99 / mo), activated a new sim for my wife's unlimited line and ESN changed the SGS3 over to my wife's unlimited line. The lady doing it said it would have zero impact on my unlimited data.

Before leaving the store, I fired up the Verizon Mobile app and verified it still said unlimited. Checked last night and today and unlimited is still in tact. So far so good. Will keep checking and post an update if something happens.

I plan on repeating the process for my line that still has an upgrade, but I am going to wait for the SGS4 or Note 3. Until then, I will enjoy my new Note 2!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] derichio02:
Thanks for the update pez. I'm going to do this soon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 2pezboy:
Just wanted to let you know that all is still well in unlimited land! Both my phone and my wife's phone kept unlimited data. :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] larry_thagr81:
Absolutely, I did that we my Galaxy Note II. The end result is that the dumb phone will be under a new two year contract and you will get to keep your unlimited data plan on your phone line. When you switch the newly activated phone from the dumb phone line to your phone line, the contract still applies to the dumb phone line.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] snapcrackpop:
No matter how many times I read this thread, I still don't get it.

Someone needs to make a d@₩# video. :o :banghead:

EDIT: I guess someone did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQC3hxYtkUM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
hey there :good:

can u help me with that please ?

downloaded the drivers for motorola and still the pc not recognized it :crying:

what can i do ? tnx for all the help :highfive:

p.s all the usb in my computer is ok - test it with all usb devices !

the motorola defy runing 2.1
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
1.jast format the sd card - fail to recognized it

2. replace sd card - fail to recognized it

please help me :(

tnx.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
& installed motorola rsd lite & motorola divice manager - fail to recognized it ... :(

please i need your help.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
in the divice mamnager in windows 7 i cant see a yello triangle on any off the usb ?@#?!

but still the pc cant recognized the mobile motorola defy phone !

what can i do ?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pgreed:
If you rejoin yourself and try to be more accurate with your's problem description somebody will help.

First: what do you wanna do?

Second: power off your phone. Power on with Vol+ pressed. Boot menu will appear. Connect the usb cable to PC and after to phone. In what way pc reacted?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
1.OK - need to flash to jelly ...

2. did what u say ... -> im geting a black screen bootloader 09.10

battery ok

ok to program transfer mode:

ok

thats it the pc dont - dont do anything ...

:confused:
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
what can i do from here mate ?

i truly appreciate your help !
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
im despaired :(

please help :(
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pradeeppk:
XP is more suitable for flashing. I am also faced troubles with win7
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pgreed:
From this position if you connect the Defy to PC through usb cable you will see a message on the pc saying that it search the drivers. After pc find and install drivers (or you install drivers from forum) start RSD and do the flsh. If you see nothing most probable that usb cable is defective.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
Fail - please help me :(
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Afro:
Dude, I'm having this problem, too...

A friend gave me his Defy to let me repair it - it has the LED Bug (or what its called), so it does nothing. Just giving a white LED, when it has been connected with USB Port... I tried so mich different drivers, USB-Ports and USB-Cables... All Modes that I found I tried and so on, but no chance...

Now I hope to get a important information in this forum...

...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pgreed:
Did you try with another USB cable?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kienlodiria:
first step

1

Does the phone charge?

charge the battery

2

hold vol+ button, vith the other hand hold power

3

Now you can drop phone on table,

what u see

¿triangle with ! ?

¿white text?

ok, this is the bootloader

4

power off.

SOFTWARE

rds lite, version and drivers ok? sure?

uninstall all(motorola, drivers, rds, all), reboot pc, reinstall

restart after installing each program

(THIS is only to have a clean instalation with appropiate aplications and drivers)

run rds lite and conect phone(with original motorola usb)

(time ago have problems with galaxy ace usb)

*
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
ok did it + hard reset to the defy + format to the sd card
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pgreed:
??? What method is that?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
foramt my laptop to try to get connect 2 the defy - but stiil - fail

help please :(
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pgreed:
I didn't say to format the pc but to try another usb cable because sometime is a data cable problem.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
did all you say mate but stiil - fail :confused:
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
Now the computer says that the usb is unrequgnized ?

after i install the drivers:

http://www.mediafire.com/?spf3928sdnde4o3 --> what can i do now please ?

tnx.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
UnKnown Device - that what the pc says ...:confused:

tnx for replaying please.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
see the computer is trying to find my usb connection in (pc) computer manegment but still - fail ------> please help me :(
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Afro:
Does RSD see your device?

...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kienlodiria:
try it

try it

take out the battery

hold vol+ and vol- and power

put the battery

boot into motorola recovery

wipe all

take out the battery

hold vol+ and power

boot into bootloader

connect to pc

¿recognize?

tell us

rds version

¿lastest motorola drivers?

defy mb525 or defy+ mb526

tried all usbs that your pc or laptot have?

---------- Post added at 02:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 PM ----------

Have you tried to do it in linux?

---------- Post added at 02:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:51 PM ----------

http://rsdlite.software.informer.com/versions/
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuneon:
No
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] googleme1:
Hey all, I know that switching from 3g to HSPA+ on the T-Mobile network Is intentional, but almost all the time between my pushing a button to send data and the device switching to HSPA+ there is usually a 20 to 30 second delay which isn't acceptable. Sometimes it doesn't even switch or when it switches no data is transmitted, which sucks if you are trying to use sip calling (VoIP), it ends up in a dropped call or about a minute of waiting before the call is actually answered. Does anyone have any solution for this or experience the same thing?

(Even now I can't post this because it won't switch... with full signal bars!)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenji7:
My nexus 4 sometime does this, with full bar and the network showing HSPA+, it will take a minute or so to load a page. Even when speedtest show over 10Mb. Other time it usually work fine with the 3-5 second delay while it switch to HSPA+. I test my brother tmobile s3 side by side with my and his webpage load faster then my while my network switch from 3g to HSPA+.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] googleme1:
I'm guessing none cares enough to answer. Or we're alone in our own world.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deadpenguinvx:
Fast dormancy is something that T-Mobile uses as a form of network management and also as a "battery saver". This is what your experiencing when your phone switches to UMTS (3G) when the data connection goes dormant.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
I've had the delayed switch intermittently from every phone I've had on T-Mobile. It will come and go.

I chalk it up to a network issue and not a device issue.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] googleme1:
Thanks for your answers guys, I understand it is how T-Mobile has configured their network. My only gripe is that sometimes it takes about a whole minute to switch. Thanks again.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Jokerok:
Hi there fellow XDA members.

So...Question is: Is there any way to use volume buttons for music control on stock .55 ?

CM 9 or CM 10 is not an option.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Karumbaiah:
Hope you've already figured out.

However, here it is

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2103944
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
My Phone: verizon Samsung galaxy (SCH-I535 running ParanoidAndroid Version 2.51), Using the Rom's Stock Messaging app

The Issue:

My girlfriend (iphone5) randomly does not receive text messages I send. Roughly 1/15 texts will not make it through.

I have no idea how to isolate this problem, as it could either be on my end or hers.

We both text a small group of individuals, and no one has yet to complain about not receiving texts.

It didn't happen before on my droid x, with her having the same phone, so I'm under the impression it is most likely on my end?

Although, I was also under the impression when a messaged displayed "sent", SMS guaranteed delivery from my end?

If anyone could help, I'd really appreciate it as I'm half tempted to revert back to my old Droid X just to be able to use basic phone functions (SMS)

Screenshots of the Issue:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TXI Kaze:
All that "sent" means is that it successfully went from your phone, through Verizon's towers and then out. Doesn't mean the recipient received the text. Do you both have Verizon?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
No she has Sprint with an iphone 5.

Also Uploaded some screenshots of the problem happening!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
IPhone the problem. Many threads on IPhone and android sms. Not even looking that you on AOSP base with a hand built RIL.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
I wish there was a way to prove this. Seems like it's so easy to pin off any interaction flaw on the underdog (the iphone, especially on this site).

Also Was your last remark sarcastic? You think I should switch rom's?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] llama555:
This happens with me and my gf. It hasn't happened recently tho. She has the galaxy s2 for US Cellular so idk about the iPhone rumor.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
Are you using stock rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] llama555:
Naw. Beans ROM. Happened from 6-8 I believe. Sometimes in paranoid too. I don't really remember tho. Its been awhile
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
You think clean rom would fix my problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] llama555:
Maybe. Touch wiz ROMs are usually more reliable in general but idk I guess it just happened again today with beans haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
Alright for the time being I'm going to flash Synergy Rom to see if that does anything for me.

Seems like everyone is at a loss for words on this thread, anyone with some higher knowledge about the problem at hand here?

Also what are these Phone Modem's? Would that maybe fix my problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCITNet:
Is it only when you include the funky android smiley?

Also we're going to need pics of your girlfriend for further troubleshooting.

Sent from my Galaxy S III
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
[1]No it happens without the smiley's, although for good measure, I'll remove all smiley's from my texts.

[2]Maybe if you help me fix this problem :silly: lol

Update:

- Updated Modem to I535VRLK3 (Supposed Latest Modem ATM)

- Re-did Phone with Synergy_d2vzw_10Jan13_1641_r169_s ROM (Latest Synergy Release)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
On a side note.... Synergy rom is alot slower than parnoid, but I will obviously be able to make that sacrafice if able to send txt's properly. lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
Bump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCITNet:
It might be her phone. Delete the entire text thread on her phone. Go in to her contacts and delete your contact. Send her a text message and have her save it as a new contact. See if that resolves it. A lot people are saying iphone 5s are doing this a lot because of the way the phone number is formatted.

Also try having her turn off imessage and test it.

Sent from my Galaxy S III
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] warfront1:
Yea i never thought about the ridiculous formatting she has after my name in her contacts list.

Will try
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jiovaxrs:
hello friends I will buy a sd of ebay but which of these is better??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] blaxican25:
The sandisk ultra is better all around.:)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ardcifliku:
Better
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] nmw407:
Sandisk.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] predation:
i picked up a samsung 64gb

too many issues with sandisk for my blood.