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[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Amro90:
[MENTION=2538253]bponury[/MENTION]

As some people have said before: don't worry about the whining comments. I have been using your app for a while now and I've been very happy with it. I've had the freezing screen problem mainly when cycling with my nexus in my pants pocket but I've solved it by putting the phone in my bag or the pocket of my jacket.

The fact that you are watching this thread and actively answering posts, is enough support for me. I don't need to complain since I know that the problem will be fixed at some time, and I know that maintaining this kind of project is hard and very time-consuming. Just take your time and ignore the stupid comments. Those who complain should try to make an app themselves.

Thanks for this great app!

Edit: See, there's a lot of people that still love you ;)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] xanthrax:
And I let you guys call me STUPID because I don't feel any extra battery drain nor screen freezes ! Pocket , bag , under ware , facing down , no freeze screen at all ...might be related to your touch sensitivity , don't ****ing know ...

Another build in slide 2wake option from somewhere else ...is laggy , have purchased it but don't use it and never complained about it , it was my choice so I can kick myself in the ass if I need to .

sent from my Darkside of Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] yoft1:
Jesus. This thread is ridiculous. Would you prefer that bponury instead take this thread off xda and just list a set of 5 supported kernels? That way he doesn't have to put up with your complaining bull$hit. He has this thread open as a COURTESY to us end users. If you piss him off enough he'll just drop this project and what do you expect to gain from that? Back the **** off.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] frnt:
i think you should add the changelog format to :

version number, changes made, known issue

or maybe just list about changes made and known issue of the current version

like this one : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2214042

i found it easy to read :)

i bought your app, but i cannot use your app due to the screen freeze problem and battery drain while in my pocket (the phone is warm). i always put my phone in my pocket.

yes, i'm dissapointed for buying this app, but i still hope that you could fix this problem in the future.

put that known problems in your description and hopefully you'll get less complaint from that same problems.

i think to fix the problem, the app needs to know when it's in the pocket (proximity sensor / accelerometer for reading phone position, disable if upside down) just an idea. :)

Edit : i was wondering if BB Z10 encounters screen freeze problem, i googled it and this is one of the result : http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-z10-f254/z10-freezes-up-does-not-unlock-768395/

BB Z10 with its swipe up to unlock have this freeze problem too. :D
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] capoooro:
Try to begin again in the right direction: with the last 666 version of Franco kernel your app work. It doesen't work with semaphore 0.7.5. It work with sets kernel (saber kernel). Sometimes it stop to work and is necessary to reboot. Perhaps it could be a good idea to have a button in the app to reload the module.... If is possible. For the rest continue to develop the app. It is definitely a good work and a good idea to follow. Tnx
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] BLADESMAN1889:
@ Dev,

As mentioned in PM here is screenshot.

**edit **

This thread needs cleaning !

@ capoooro -

app is not supposed to work on Semaphore!

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[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] cocchiararo:
The problem here is that people who know how to wait or want what the app gives and can live with its issues and/or work around them don't post too much, instead, whiners do.

(also people who suffer more with the issues but want to help fix them do post more often :p)

Battery drain issue: hard to fix, but... It's not really an issue that should bother anyone... 8 to 10% more over 8 hours (I'll guess that overnight = 8 hs)

Screen portion/whole unresponsive: don't leave the screen facing your body :p

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[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] capoooro:
It was only a way to report my experience with the last kernel I've tried.... And to bring again the thread in the right direction ;)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] BLADESMAN1889:
One thing I do is turn the app off at night/bedtime or when the phone isn't going to be used for a long time.

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[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] BelzIgoh:
i think i should share this.

before this i have quite frequent screen freeze when swipe to unlock my nexus.

i am using franco kernel and set my Suspend Frequency to 594MHz.

Then i think when my screen is off, the frequency too low for Touch Control to wake my nexus up.

Then i set Suspend Frequency to 702MHz (default). after more than a week, i dont have this screen freeze problem.

Maybe just coincidence, but no harm to try right? :D
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] LRC1710:
People will complain when things dont work properly, this app doesnt have a couple of minor bugs which we can live with, it makes the screen unresponsive dude, its a major deal, i spent like 2 hours one afternoon touching the screen in different ways trying to reproduce the issue, until i finally found how, i posted the video here like 2 months ago, and you never answered, or commented on that heres the link again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aEPL3Y-8qE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

All we want is to get it fixed man, if we complain is because we love your app so much that its way too dissapointing to have the unresponsive issue, its like having a hot girlfriend with bad breath u know what im saying? If this was an average app people would just uninstall it and never post anything , if people come here to complain Is because they like the app and want it to get better, yee some people can be very harsh with their complaints but just ignore them, if u fix the issue u are gonna get all kindzz of love in this thread i can guarantee u that, and don't get pissed, only consumers have the right to get pissed, law of business my friend ;) cheers
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] keyra74:
yeah you have the right to be pissed off but you also have the choice to try to fix it yourself if you're that smart ...
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] arby80:
Just thought I would post some love for this app. I have gotten the occasional screen lock but nothing a 15 second reboot didn't fix. It is a lot less frequent now.

I also have my phone set up to swipe from the home button to the middle of the lock screen and it works perfectly and easier than swiping across the hole screen.

I could not use the nexus 4 without this app.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jack1984:
thank you! I've been trying to reproduce this but couldn't figure out what was causing it!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] bponury:
I tried reproducing the bug myself and it didn't work for me. I do have another way to reproduce it since yesterday and from what I've found already is that it's more probably touchscreen driver problem. Maybe it's my new phone, maybe it's minor hardware differences which cause that I don't know. Nevertheless I just need time. I can't fix it in 5 minutes it's really not that easy. People think that it's just like with any other app that crashes or something that you need to change one value or add one line. This is much much different because I'm operating on driver level below android itself.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] mrluker:
You can add the widget to quickly turn on/off touch control?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] bponury:
I got it to point where locking/unlocking screen fixes all issues. I am trying to find way around the problem that it caused.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] spelaben:
Maybe the people having trouble are using the old touchscreen driver floating around somewhere in the forum?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Abomb:
Is the touchscreen driver included in the kernel, or in the rom, or somewhere else? I have the problems, but am on current rom (CM10.1 nightly) and Kernel (latest Franco). I have never flashed anything special touch related.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] spelaben:
I have no idea, just remembered this thread and thought some of you might have flashed this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2028289
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] demolatorul:
I had both drivers e027 and e015 and the freeze bug is present in both of them, I have some suggestions for you ponury for next versions, maybe you can add a scheduler to deactivate the app during night to consume less battery(stop and start from x hour to y hour), and another idea is to deactivate multi-touch when the screen is off, maybe it will reduce the battery drain and also the screen freezes, just my 2 cents
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] cocchiararo:
Is this really happening if you DON'T leave the phone in your pocket with the screen facing your boddy? If it doeas, its a much worse issue, and you kind of can complain more... I ask this cause i only had this issue ONCE, doing just that (i do have a belt holder for my phones, i don't use pockets, except that one time)

don't you understand that the extra drain happens ALL THE TIME? not just over night.

Overnight is a NON ISSUE, you can, and SHOULD charge overnight.

It is just more evident becauase almost nothing else drans battery then.

(with this i'm trying to say that such an option is useless for when this extra drain really counts, you want this app active).
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] ceejay83:
I get the edge freezing issue without putting the phone in my pocket. I notice it because the aosp browser with quick controls doesn't work. It usually takes some time for it to stop working, and I don't know how to reproduce it
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] 33t:
Happens no matter what. App is unusable. I installed it. Cleared cache and fixed permissions. Was amazed at how great the app was. Put the phone on my table. Came back 5 minutes later. Unresponsive. restarted phone and uninstalled the app

Unfortunately I bought the app and not able to refund it.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] demolatorul:
I'm using the phone however I want, and I'm putting the phone in my pocket with the screen face to my buddy, I just shared an opinion to the dev, I'm using this app for some months now and I know how it reacts and I know how to solve the screen freeze issue without rebooting the phone , about the battery drain overnight it could be solved deactivating the app(I just shared an idea how) , not everybody is charging the phone over night
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] :
Reading how some people are offending the dev makes me kinda sad.... considering the time that a dev needs to put into such a project....and it reminds me once again how much assclowns there are on xda ;(

I appreciate your work and the time you've spend into this cool project. Thxxxx...

Some people just don't know what it takes to make something like this... I bet they never wrote a line of code in their lives...but hey they're awesome in complaining. At least something

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] BLADESMAN1889:
App is NOT unusable at all, ok some of you may have this screen unresponsive issue but not all of us.

I have NEVER had the problem.

Quit whining - just because you paid for it without doing ANY homework - there is a FREE version, the Dev hasn't forced anyone to buy the app without testing its free counterpart first.

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[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jack1984:
So it's not unusable because the touch freezes don't happen to you? Because I can just as much claim the opposite; neither are good arguments. Is 'lack of homework' the issue here? The thing I have a problem with is the lack of mention in the app description that the freezes have been known to occur. And we can't exactly 'do homework' as you say until the premium features are unlocked. And even then we only have a 15 minute window until a refund can't be issued because of an issue that takes hours if not days to notice.

As useful as this app is and as much asi appreciate the Dev's continued support, I believe some of the flack he has received is warranted - mainly omitting the known problems in the app description. If he had done that earlier you wouldnt have people here complaining, and if they did, then you could use your 'do some homework' bit.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] 33t:
^ Exactly.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] yoft1:
The free app is your "homework". If you didn't try the free version for several days to test it out, then you didn't do your homework.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] talexxx:
XenonHD + Franco kernel + Touch Control = No freezes at all, and never occured (everything is latest versions).

Just a little battery drain, which is partially managed by deactivating the Touch Control at night by Tasker.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] ‬1‬:
you exactly wrote what i feel man. first i didn't know it was this app caused that unresponsiveness,i was thinking of that it was nexus 4's screen problem. later found it out on here.uninstalled it and now everything is working good.hope dev can fix this major problem.it was a cool app though :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] 33t:
Anyway its not a big deal. Its just a few bucks. I didn't mean to be offensive.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jack1984:
No, it isn't, because the free app (understandably) doesn't have all features unlocked.

When I bought my car, the decision to do so was because I drove it, and tried out all the features that were in the package I was looking for. This app doesn't have a trial run, where I can use the app in its complete form for a day or two to better solidify my decision in purchasing it.

Do you seriously try every free app with premium-only features for several days before finally making a purchase for the same reasons as we're discussing, to make sure there are no bugs that surface after several hours or even days that the dev hasn't been candid about? Because if you do, then you're surely the exception and not the norm. The vast majority are not going to try the free version of this for several days to make sure there aren't any bugs or kinks that need to be worked out because the premium features are what make the app. If you can't test those out thoroughly(several days, as you say) before purchase then you're left with purchasing it on the trust that the dev hasn't left anything out by way of bugs in the app description. He has failed in that respect, hence the anger by some of the purchasers.

It's difficult to do homework when the book is missing the good pages.

Personally, it's not as big a deal for me. Having to reboot when you get a call because you can't swipe to answer it gets annoying, but I can deal. However, I can also see why some people may feel cheated, and understand completely why they would.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] cocchiararo:
well, then your phone has some other issue that makes it incompatible, sad for you :(

I don't remember telling you how to use your phone (i did inform people who have the issue can have it less often tho).

And not charging overnight is not the brightest plan, but to each his own.

The battery drain happes the whole 24hs, so working on some workarround for just the night is not the brightest way of spending time.

this is SO important to remember :P

it's not unusable because the free one was rated 136 times, and the paid one more than 400 times.

Do you see that many people informing that it is unusable?

You can't use it, we don't know why.

(if you feel like it, you can tell us what rom, kernel, and rom/kernel settings you are using)

what features from the premium version cause the issue ?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jack1984:
I agree that saying it is unusable is a bit too much, I just think the reasons you gave (because it works for you and others) are flawed. I use it just fine, currently using Franco.kernel r134, stock ROM 4.2.2.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] yoft1:
Except you do not need all the features of the premium app to find this bug. It happens with the free app. I'm not saying that most people test drive the free app for bugs. I'm saying that since the free app is available, and it has the same bugs, then the material for you to do the homework is available to you. So you can't complain just because the homework was too tedious for you and you chose to not do it.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] redwoodflyer:
Is there a way to use tasker to disable the app whenever the proximity sensor indicates an object is near it (such as when the phone is in your pocket)? I can't think of a scenario in which you would have something near the top of the screen and would need this app to be active.

If so, what impact would it have on battery life? The apps that rely on the prox to turn the screen on and off don't seem to cause much drain..
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jack1984:
But you are. Your previous post to this was:

Why else would anyone try a free version of the app for a few days, when the premium features are so sought after? For you, it seems, it's to find bugs. I don't test out apps for days on end then buy the premium version when I'm satisfied that there are no bugs - that doesn't even cross my mind, and this isn't a beta-test, I paid for the premium version. When I 'test' an app, I see if the function is congenial to my usage, and if it is, I purchase it. Before all of this, I read completely the app description in the play store.

Essentially, what I'm getting at is it's wrong for a dev to keep known bugs that severely hamper usage when triggered from the main app description. You seem to think that this is OK, and that homework should be done before-hand which is ridiculous because again - no one tries a free app with a premium unlock for a few days just to make sure there aren't any usage-hampering bugs because it's expected that these would be outlined in the app description. IT'S NOT. The only 'homework' that should be done is reading the app description, the fact that you think it's necessary for all users to sit on the free version of the app for a few days before purchasing it to unlock the extremely useful premium features is crazy. It's not tedious, it's simply illogical. The dev should have made note of this in the app description, and he still should.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] LRC1710:
Your argument is invalid, we don't have to use the free version of an app for days with limited features just to see if it has major bugs, those should be in the description, tons of apps have in the playstore have in the description in red caps things like "THIS APP MIGHT CAUSE RANDOM REBOOTS USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" or "YOUR SCREEN MIGHT FLICKER DONT PANIC IM WORKING ON IT"

Anyway i think this debate is useless, the dev is already working on it, give him some time and we will hopefully see this fixed, any further flaming one another is just waste of pixels

---------- Post added at 12:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:35 AM ----------

FYI those people who claim that they dont have the issue, believe me, you have it, remember it doesnt make the entire screen unresponsive, JUST THE EDGES! So if you dont use apps that require swipes from the edges like glovebox, side bar, stock browser quick controls, lmt launcher, pie controls, swapps, of course u will never notice the issue, doesnt mean it isnt present.

ALSO YOU DONT NEED TO REBOOT TO FIX THE ISSUE, just go into touch control app, turn the module off, lock the screen, unlock it, turn the module on again, that fixes the issue temporarily... Its annoying but hey is way better than having to reboot every time! Cheers
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] yoft1:
Let me clarify since you seem to have some trouble comprehending. You do not need to test the free version IF you do not plan on complaining when something unexpected happens. But, if something unexpected does happen, then don't complain because you could have found it out without purchasing.

It's not like you COULDN'T find it out without purchasing, it's that you didn't FEEL like it.

Anyways, I'm done with this :)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] cocchiararo:
well, i have 100% of the screen correctly working, but i never use pockets.

then again, the only time i left it in a pocket facing my body, most of the screen stoped working :P
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Stryder5:
It is not the app developer's responsibility to list every possible thing that can occur when installing an app. The description is to describe how the product works.

Take a look at a box for antivirus software. It tells you what the requirements are to run it, and a description of what it can do. I don't see anywhere on the box that says it can potentially slow your computer down. Nor do I see anywhere that it can potentially cause conflicts if installed alongside another program. If there was a major bug in the software, that may say blow up your computer, then I'm sure that would be required to be disclosed, but not every little bug is required to be acknowledged, nor disclosed.

The developer's description in the play store is exactly as it sounds, a description of how the product works. If they were required to put every possible disclaimer up there, then that would be up to Google to require it.

Anyways, I don't understand why everyone is making a big hassle out of it. The dev has already acknowledged that he is aware of the bugs, and announced he is working on a new version. It's not like he has abandoned the app. In fact, he isn't even required to update the app for all the kernel updates. He doesn't have to update the app at all. So be grateful that he is attempting to update the app at all. And if you're going to report a bug, it should include a way to reproduce it, or be a novel bug that no one else has experienced yet. There's no point in beating a dead horse.

Also, just because you experience these screen freezes, doesn't mean everybody experiences them. Your logic is flawed. I have PIE and PA's halo system, so yes, I swipe in from multiple edges. However, I haven't experienced any screen freezes for the longest time. I think I have used this app and would say it works flawlessly 95% of the time. I do admit I have experienced freezes before, but that was ages ago. That doesn't mean other people aren't experiencing these bugs though, but keep in mind not everyone has these bugs.

Also, I always keep my phone in my pocket and have only experienced it freezing up from taking it out of my pocket ONCE.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jack1984:
My comprehension is fine, it's your logic that is flawed. We don't need to test apps if we don't intend on complaining when something unexpected happens? But if we do, we should? Ahahaha, who in their right minds downloads an app with the intention of complaining about it? And when something unexpected happens? That's the thing, genius: IT'S A KNOWN BUG around here. Nothing unexpected about it. But not everyone who downloads and pays for the premium app hangs around xda or even knows it exists, so it's up to the Dev to make this known in the app description.

You're a fool if you think the onus is on the user before purchasing to realize a bug that the Dev is fully aware of.

End of story. Thank you for playing.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] dahi:
Are you providing support for the Semaphore v8.0?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Tylog:
He can't, Semaphore has Touch to wake enable, Touch to wake and touch control together don't work.

Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] pkelly517:
I don't think that would work.

Unless I'm wrong (and there's a good chance that I am), the proximty sensor only runs when the screen is on. Setting up a task to frequently poll it would be far too battery unfriendly.