yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 2x] tr@p:
In the fall of year 2012. LG has finally released long awaited Ice Cream Sandwich update for it's former flagship, Optimus 2x. Short after, young warrior named wkpark cracked the new, locked ICS bootloader for this device. That is the day when Bootloader Wars begun. Lot of Optimus 2x users were eager to see that if LG made a proper job with it's official ICS. First custom stock ICS roms begun to emerging, and more and more users were converting on new, unlocked bootloader.

In meanwhile, developers on the old, GB bootloader didn't fell asleep. Official CM10 came out, there were even few attempts to bring stock ICS to old bootloader. But all ICS and JB roms on old bootloader had a critical flaw named 'call bug'. Because of that bug, even more users started using new instead old bootloader. But all of those who wanted to taste Jelly Bean on O2x were forced to stay on old bootloader. O2x community was separated in two fractions: ones that uses new bootloader, and the other that uses old one.

After some time in stalemate position, things have started to develop further. One member from notorious group The Penguins of Madagascar, pengus77 succeeded to boot up CM10 on the new bootloader. With it's brilliance, he brought the advantage on the new bootloader side. That impact cause a massive troops crossing towards new bootloader.

Another inversion occurred when marsgod fixed the infamous call bug on the old bootloader. It gave the new light for old bootloader users and developers. So, one can say that we're again in stalemate position. Which side will be victorious? No one can and won't predict... only time will tell.

DISCLAIMER: All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

I hope no one will bi offended with little war story I wrote above. If someone find it offending, or wants that I remove his nickname from it, feel free to PM me. :)

Point of this thread would be to see how much users are on new bootloader, and how much of them uses old one. I'll make poll about that. Also, I would like to hear why someone choose the one bootloader or the other? What are advantages over the other in your opinion? And are you ready to change bootloader again if the community will choose one way...

Also, since this is bootloader thread, I hope that people will stop spamming threads in developers subforum with posts such as: my bootloader is stronger than yours etc.

Let the battles begin! And please, don't start to offend other users because of their bootloader choice. Let's keep it nice and cosy.

And sorry if my english is not good enough, and some sentences sounds funny. :D
[LG Optimus 2x] michiel1995:
I am currently on new bootloader, but as soon as cm10 without wifi drain is available, I'll switch back to good ol' bootloader ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] tr@p:
I'm on the new bootloader since stefan's v28E stock ICS. I'm happy with it, especially after pengus77 managed to get CM10 working on new BL. Currently using tonyP's PA with penguses kernel. I think it's nice combo.

About old bootloader... there isn't any stock ICS which is a minus. Official CM10.1 is still to buggy for me to use it as daily driver. CM7 (for stability and speed) is the only thing that would make me go back to old bootloader, and somehow I don't want to go back to GB. And CM10 on new BL seems to be enough stable and fast.

But if (when) one day CM10.1 become stable, and if whole community starts to roll back, I wouldn't mind another BL change.
[LG Optimus 2x] clashman90:
I prefer to be with the new bootloader, because there are many ROMS that are becoming the new BL.

Greetings.
[LG Optimus 2x] kestrelv2:
I dont even understand why people ***** about not have old bootloader version, why bother fixing all the issues with the old one when the new one works, its just they are too lazy to flash the new bootloader. The new bootloader is there for a reason.
[LG Optimus 2x] orbital_71:
Base on the same source new bootloader i don't have slow charge issue at least in mine case. Old bootloader the charging are endless hall for me.
[LG Optimus 2x] amardeepsingh77:
I have been on the old bootloader and charging is absolutely fine since over a month. I will stick with RC and official CM, who else can give us daily bug fixes besides cyanogenmod. As for device apecific bugs, I am sure we will have kernel fkx by pengus.

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Exactly my point, why move to a new BL when I am going to run CM 10 only which is only officially supported on the old BL.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Another thread about that?

This will lead into an android vs apple fight, where the loudest people are the ones with the lowest knowledge about what they're talking about.

Fact is: Both bootloaders don't suffer from the callbug and can be considered totally stable for a daily use.

Some people have a slow charging bug with the old one - I for myself never suffered from that with my Nexus 7 charging cable - so try not to use a cheap usb cable.

So choose whatever you want for whatever reason you like and stop telling others what they should do.
[LG Optimus 2x] May-C:
AW: Bootloader Wars

I am on new bootloader because of penugs. But actually who really cares? Changing bl is thanks to the AIO really easy. So my decision is not about the bl but the roms. I will choose the roms I am interested in and if I have to change the bl again it doesn't matter. I think this discussion about bl is nonsense.

Gesendet von meinem Transformer TF101 mit Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] hd2000:
Great write up, well done :thumbup:
[LG Optimus 2x] Pascalwb:
I don't see point to move to new bootloader.

I am on tonyp's PA, pengus Kernel, and everything is working, no slow charging etc.

Also on CM10 everything was ok.
[LG Optimus 2x] angel_boulevard:
im on new BL:fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Really? I shall try that one then! Because official CM10.1 is buggy as hell lately... I've been getting SoD's, which I never had, gTalk video is dead (even though apparently there's a flashable zip to correct that), I've had the charge bug (with an original blackberry charger... so I don't think it qualifies as cheap crap usb cable), the phone feels laggier than normal, voice recognition fails miserably... the list goes on...
[LG Optimus 2x] swifer_lf:
those reporting about "slow charging" bug, need to know if you charging with screen ON or OFF. i am on old bl and with screen on via usb connected to the pc, slow charging (15%hour) but maybe cause screen is on with autobrightness. with screen off i can get 25%hor, so i do not think it can be considered "slow charging"....could any more confirm this "slow charging" bug or just "screen on with charging" bug?
[LG Optimus 2x] Pascalwb:
Yop, I tried CM10.1 too before PA, it wasn't smooth like CM10 or PA and other roms, I think it's too soon.

I had slow charging with earlier CM10 builds with SU660 source codes, but it was only on one build.
[LG Optimus 2x] _kankea:
I remember seeing a post from pengus77 with an interesting point:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36824970#post36824970

The work of rc / the whole group behind CM is beyond great... but I cannot help but wonder the future is somewhere else than old bl...
[LG Optimus 2x] tygryss:
I'm on a new bootloader, but I prefer, cm roms, but cm10 and cm10.1 is fine with new bl.

I belive, old bl, is OK for thistime, I just want a newer cmw, and newer bl :)
[LG Optimus 2x] 60nine:
just because "new" automatically means "better"... am i right?
[LG Optimus 2x] vader20:
Most of the time it is better but also restrictive ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] mintjustin:
I'm running cm10 on boot loader with WiFi conserving kernel. Not totally as stable as cm.2 but its getting there.
[LG Optimus 2x] SREEPRAJAY:
Not necessary for everyone......I share many people"s belief that latest may not be the best....but then

I prefer that good work from people like spyrosk pengus who preferred to help to have a balanced level playing field between the boot loaders when it was scary to see people only promoting the ones of the main thought process of only the old one....this is a free world and each is free to choose...

Not hurting anyone guys...but it is important to appreciate who choose to support the free world and remain competitive and not get stuck to just perceptions rather than rational thought.

O2X with Magical ICS ROM and magnificent kernels from my buddies
[LG Optimus 2x] tygryss:
not realy, I realy dont know which one is better today, but it looks like, devs start to support new bl better and better, from that standpoint, new bl will be better, but thistime is aprox. equal.

I just step to new bl now, and in the future I dont have to do that.
[LG Optimus 2x] Luk_Optimus:
Everybody can choose what he wants as there are NO arguments for any bootloader.

There are good Roms for both. Maybe ROM XY-favorite is only available for the old BL, then use the old one. Otherwise well have fun :)
[LG Optimus 2x] mhkim4886:
I use new bootloader, because it almost doesn't have a critical call bug, but the old one have it...
[LG Optimus 2x] Luk_Optimus:
It is long time ago, the call bug has been solved by marsgod :silly:
[LG Optimus 2x] SWTR:
oh man... this is already fixed many times ago..

Gesendet von meinem LGP990 mit CM10.
[LG Optimus 2x] mhkim4886:
but my SU660 have it yet...
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
In the last three months of using my O2X, I was on the new bootloader.

The most significant improvement from the old bootloader was that it completely eliminated a rather annoying bug where plugging in the charger while the screen was off would cause an immediate BSOD rather than wake the screen. Pengus77's kowalski kernel for the old bootloader made it less frequent, but it still happened. New bootloader = no problem!
[LG Optimus 2x] Schnoodle Doo:
Content

Are there any real negatives to keeping the old bl anyway? I'll be flashing the new one soon to try some other ROMs and Kernels but I've never had any issues with CM 10.1 or slow charging problems ever! Also in my experience charging with a laptop has always been slow.

Not that I use many CM 10 features to make that clear, all I care about is performance. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] michiel1995:
With old bootloader the "mount usb storage" option in clockworkmod doesn't work, while it does work on new bootloader.
[LG Optimus 2x] oneearleft:
new bl problem

hi, I have tried to change to newbl, but 2nd reboot did not complete after flashing PA2.6 and CM10.1tonyp both with KK.

I guess it is something with my hardware and KK then, but this is pure guessing, and oldbl is working fine anyway...
[LG Optimus 2x] KiRAdot47:
i'm on the old bl, i din't have any problems so far

i don't use the new bl because of the waste of space ~700mb (ota and swap partitions, i know i can resize them)
[LG Optimus 2x] Subxero2k:
I'm on currently using the new bl, but only because time ago I put to get JB working without call problem, now that are fixed, nothing remains me to change only the "format" reinstall time.. :angel:
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
I just wanted to add my 2 cents here...

I took a long time before changing to the new BL... I endured a very annoying call bug and slow charging... but everyone was saying... hey RC is staying on the old BL... so it's gotta be better, right? Well... RC more or less dropped work on O2X after having a more or less functional CM10 on it... but a lot of other beloved developers of ours didn't (obviously I'm talking about tonyp and pengus among others like marsgod that have greatly helped). And all these developers were in the new BL, and even if they kept releasing stuff for the old BL, at some point I told to myself... hey, everyone is enjoying an almost bug free experience in the new BL... why don't I give it a try?

Best decision ever.

Oh, and you guys are right, marsgod did fix one of the audio bugs... but there were two bugs, no-audio and noise. I kept having one of them... can't remember which, it has been so long since I changed to the new BL ;)

And even if these bugs are gone in the old BL, the new BL will always have better support and be more thouroughly tested, so I would still change if it was now.

That's my opinion, my 2 cents, you're free to disagree :)
[LG Optimus 2x] SimonFunkel:
New bl, Kowalski Kernel, Mivv 10.1
[LG Optimus 2x] KiRAdot47:
now (some time ago) i changed to the new bl, and i'm pleased

it is a placebo, or kowalski kernel isn't "calibrated" yet, but the phone charges faster
[LG Optimus 2x] Firtecy:
I'm since half a year on the new bootloader. At the beginning because of the call bug on the old one. But than I didn't see a reason to switch back!
[LG Optimus 2x] toha8:
Probably stupid question......

Probably a stupid question for you guys but have googling and can not find answer.....how to chose correct TonyP ROM or actually how to check what boot loader I have?
[LG Optimus 2x] SREEPRAJAY:
Grey lg logo is the boot loader

Pink lg logo is the new boot loader...

For Tony.... He clearly puts in different folder.... Does this question has any meaning.... Kindly do a better search my friend
[LG Optimus 2x] Patrick Morgan:
That was some serious Thread diving to bring this old one up.

But in saying that, i read through the whole thread again for the giggles.

and just to prove tony right.

Android rocks.

apple sucks.

lol
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vikash0513:
Does anyone know how to change the color of the bar on the upper side or to make it transparant because it doesn't match to my lwp....
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freddy1991:
Try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1903882
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vikash0513:
Thanks for the reply....
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vikash0513:
I want transparent but which file should I use
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freddy1991:
Just choose the file according to your firmware

For me as my firmware is xxelkc, I chose lkc

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You can try JKay Framework

It includes an option to make your status bar transparent
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vikash0513:
JKay framework needs JKay Deluxe settings to work and I don't got a credit card so I cannot buy it and I to got xxelkc firmware
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Senthurpandian.r:
Hi,

Is there any ROM/Kernel that supports WiFi direct in Galaxy S I9000 ???

:confused: :confused: :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sbnaul:
Nope... But this app is very useful... Does almost the same job... Fast File Transfer
[LG Optimus 2x] strg:
Hi all, i have just installed a new clean of cm-10.1-20130117-NIGHTLY-p990 with gapps 20121212.

I'm having problem with keyboard when i want to type a SMS (only). When i start to type it crashes for 2-3 seconds, then goes up again.

phone: lg optimus 2x

kernel: 2.6.39.4 blinky-ghost

Anyone is experiencing this problem ?
[LG Optimus 2x] 60nine:
everyone who uses stock keyboard on cm10.1... already reported at least 20 times...

do some cm10.1 bug thread reading (in lg optimus 2x general section of the forum)

install any other keyboard from the playstore and you're ok...
[LG Optimus 2x] noob424:
try to download swift keyboard free from here:

http://www71.zippyshare.com/v/81987572/file.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eviltuna:
Hey Guys,

I've been trying to build my own rom with some success, but can't seem t find a good tutorial/guide or even a bit of info on how to add customizations to the home/launcher screen. For instance I want certain icons to be in the launcher screen after someone flashes the rom, how exactly would I do this?

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hisname:
make a launcher from scratch?

Sent from my supercharged tank
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eviltuna:
Well, I just want to use the default launcher, but have certain shortcuts on the main screen, so I don't see a reason to make a new launcher.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hisname:
make a nandroid back up of your entire setup with shortcuts and bla bla bla, and release it to or users. I hope this helps.... I have never made a ROM before

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgtl:
Is this possible somehow?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kick-Ass Joe:
You need flash the ROM check the stickies how to do.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Testraindrop:
He means 4.1.2 not 4.2.1 :D

@OP Possible sure, but it is alot of work to make it work on the N4.

Why do you want to downgrade?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
There are no 4.1.2 ROMs for N4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisgtl:
I knew I'd get a sensible answer eventually lol. Was just curious to see if some of the bugs we are facing on 4.2.1 were to dissapear with 4.1.2

I had a funny feeling it would be a lot of work involved. Oh well. Cheers :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lowrider262:
I've wondered this myself. I know xda is all about having the latest and greatest, but on my gnex 4.1.1/4.1.2 were absolutely perfect. it was super smooth, everything worked and there was no crazy battery drain issues. 4.2 seems rushed, hopefully they'll sort it out in the next update
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Mindroid-:
The most pressing bugs are in the kernel so even if the ROM gets ported they will persist.

You can try flashing an old rom on the new kernel and see what happens.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nuu~:
Someone got Gingerbread with a Jelly Bean kernel running on his Nexus 7.

It's definitely possible, but will probably include some work.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownDynamite:
Alright, so basically...I installed a new ROM on my phone (Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830). After I installed the ROM, it said Installation complete and then I rebooted my phone to use it and test it. But instead, my phone decided not to turn on AT ALL. I can't go into recovery mode, or download mode or ANYTHING. My phone just won't turn on...

Does ANYONE know what I can do to fix it? :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sentrax123:
Are you sure that you have GT-S5830 and not the GT-S5830i model? That may be the cause of the problem.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownDynamite:
No, my phone isn't GT-S55830i. I'm more than 100% sure.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alex_is_the_1:
Which rom did you try? And what steps did you take?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownDynamite:
The name of the ROM is "MindCr v2.4"

I just installed it like any normal ROM, copy it to my SD card, and then flash it using the latest version of ClockworkMod.

I think that ROM is for GT-S5830i :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Venomous Viper 119:
You can't flash the roms of s5830i on s5830. That is what has caused all the problem. Also use cwm 5.0.2.6

Coming to your problem, there's a thread to unbrick your ace which tells you, how you can get odin to recognize it. Use search to find it. All the best !!! Hope your ace is revived.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownDynamite:
Thanks a lot man!!

I hope I find that thread :/

Hahaha

But how can Odin recognize my phone if it isn't turning on? o.O
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Venomous Viper 119:
Try the trick first. If it doesn't work, I'll try to sort out. If I'm not successful, go to the service centre.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownDynamite:
If it's not too much trouble, can you inbox me the link to the thread? I can't seem to find it :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Venomous Viper 119:
Hang on. I will.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrownDynamite:
Thanks man :)

I sent me phone off to Samsung, if they don't fix it then I'll give this a shot.

Again, thanks a lot!!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Venomous Viper 119:
I tried to find the thread but I couldn't locate it :( But it's surely there some where. But since you have sent it to samsung, you'll surely have a fine phone back in your hand. All the best !!!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Krakadoom:
I would very much like my phone to stop converting SMS to MMS once it hits the 3x160 chars limit. I'm quite sure the previous version of this ROM based on ISC 4.0.4 had this option in menus somewhere. The 4.1.2 version does not it seems.

I read somewhere that the conversion behavior would be removed in Android 4.1.2 in general, so it would always just send long SMS, so but so far that is not me experience.

I have tried flashing the MMS.apk that is usually referred to on this and other forums, but this only makes the app split my messages into separate 160 character messages instead of sending one long SMS. That is not a good fix - it's almost worse.

As this is a low level setting somewhere in the OS, I am not sure if it would work to just flash the ICS 4.0.4 version of the MMS.apk - I'm guessing it's identical to the 4.1.2 version (more or less, if it even works at all) and you still have to find a way to toggle a hidden setting somewhere else.

I don't have enough posts to post directly in the nAa release thread, so I'm hoping someone here can help me, or bring the request into the official thread - the request being to restore/add the menu option to stop the message application from converting SMS to MMS due to size.

This is for the X10 mini pro

ROM I'm using now, without the option: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1837273

Previous ROM I used, with the option: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1636501
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Krakadoom:
Since noone else found a solution, I'll post it myself for anyone else who might face this issue.

This method actually works really well http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1583232
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Krakadoom:
Bah, I take that back! This actually also just splits your long messages into separate SMS's. *sigh* :crying:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leleomotta:
Hi!

I need the ROM for my phone. I'm delete the contactsprovider.apk and the google calendar dont work anymore.

I found the ROM dated October 31, 2012 but do not want to install because I can not back up my ROM any way. Tried backup with CWM, but does not work.

Please, help me.

Model : e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017

Build number : e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017_20121105

Build date UTC : 20121106-013612

Android v : 4.1.1

Baseband v: MAUI.11AMD.W12.22.SP.V15, 2012/10/08 20:09

Kernel v : 3.4.0 (root@abc-desktop) (gcc version 4.6.x-google 20120106 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Mon Nov 12 18:32:14 CST 2012

Version Number: e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017_20121105

P.S.: Sorry, my english is not very good
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdaGiallo:
I have:

Model : e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017

Build number : e1901_v77_jbl1_9p017_20121212

I can try make backup with "Read Back" function of SPFlashTools if any can explain me what i need to do..
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiltsux:
I rooted the wifes Kindle Fire 2 with the guide [Hack] Kindle Guide for Transformation to Android Tablet. and now she's decided she wants it back to stock.

My problem is this part..

I backed up kindleforoter apk but can't find it anywhere now, so I don't know what steps to take to unroot and restore it to factory without messing it up.

Can anyone give me a link to the file and also whats the best way to unroot and restore factory settings?

Thanks
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krsmqn:
kindle reader apk

Try this.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hellocali626:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2035047 that should help you out.

But follow these instructions http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36370218&postcount=15

Install ROM toolbox lite (free) and reboot bootloader to get into fast boot. Good luck.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiltsux:
Thanks, will give it a go. :good: