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[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Is this tablet even worth considering now?

I've still got my pre-order, but May 28th is well over a month away, when there are alternatives out there, indeed, they aren't as good as the Sony, but end of May, come on!

I;m considering going back to Archos with the way customers have been treated throughout these tablets.

Disappointment is a complete understatement and with Google I/O around the corner, having an even older version of Android on this new tab will be even more depressing.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

I would suggest to Cancel your pre-order.

Wait for Google I/O then you will have clear picture, anyways in May you can directly buy from Sony stores !!

sent from seXperia Z - Black
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Am now looking at getting the Archos 80XS. Of course, it's shy spec wise of both Sony tablets, but it runs JellyBean and seems fairly decent for the price.

I think you've probably got as much experiance with Archos products as me xperia10.awesome, and they are 'pretty' good. Whats your thoughts? PM me if you like...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Wait i thought everyone was happy with tablet z comming out?

or is it gonna be out of date already in may ?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
That is my fear. I am keeping an eye out for Google I/O. No point in setting your eyes on thr Tablet Z as it wont be out till end of next month. I'm keeping my options open for the time being. I would probably have bought it if it was actually released in April.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Oh well i doubt i can ask for full refund.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] mrsanches:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Is there such a difference between snap dragon S4 pro and s800?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

S800, a lot. S600, only about more 30% performance on GPU (or something along that). Rest is the same.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Can't throw media or use it as a remote. You can enable the Media Server on the tablet and browse pictures, music, and videos though. Funny enough you can Throw media to an Xbox 360 just fine.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Uhm i'm pretty sure the tablet has universal remote aka IR blaster.

Throw just don't work thru remote never did it works through network.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] gordo79:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Yeah and the ps3 uses bluetooth or network for controls, I can use the ir to control the tv and amp but stupidly thought as it was a sony tab that can use a ps3 controller to game with that sony may have made it compatible to control the ps3 with like let me think oh yeah psp
[Xperia Tablet Z General] androidseb:
Can anyone please share the launcher apk from the Xperia Tablet Z?

Gesendet von meinem Xperia V(LT25i)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
And it might be that they don't exchange my tablet for tablet z, first they say cost free exchange accesoires now they say cost free exchange only tablet.

And they also say you can also wait a month in this case we won't need to exchange your tablet.............
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Yes it has a ir blaster but the ps3 doesn't have an ir receiver.

I know throw works through network but it doesn't work with the ps3. There are other forums that talk about the issue as well. The ps3 doesn't support the throw feature.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
it support youtube pair with tv tough

edit: sony not offering to exchange accesory's wil lose 150€ and have to spend another 150€ to get new accesoires for tablet z.

Not gonna replace my xperia tablet s for new xperia tablet s either, are they seriously this stupid to think a firmware issue can be fixed by replacing tablet.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
Thanks man!

If you still have time on your hands it would be great to know how the tablet handles XBMC. I will definitely use it to manage my media content and it would be great to know how smoothly it runs on the Xperia Tablet Z and it it can play streamed 1080 videos out of box :)

Download link: http://xbmc.org/download/
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
I got "the call" yesterday by a guy from Sony who seemed to think he was my best mate...

Sony: Hey man, did you order an Xperia Tablet Z online?

Me: yes

Sony: Well, I am afraid I have some bad news. There has been a manufacturing delay and your not going to receive it until 24th May...I am truely sorry. I had my training in the tablet yesterday and I think you will be really impressed.

Me: So you are telling me there is a 6 week delay (which we call know isnt really a delay at all), are you offering any compensation such as a free accessory.

Sony: No. I am soooo sorry.

He didn't sound very convincing or sincere but I suppose they have contacted me now. Lets hope its not a let down when it does arrive. 49 days and counting...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
49 days? Urgh...

I've not cancelled my pre-order, there's nothing really on the market I'd want other than the Z.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] androidseb:
No one can give me the launcher apk?

Gesendet von meinem Xperia V(LT25i)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
If the Nexus 10 had a MicroSD slot I would get that, got one for my good lady and it is really nice - after having a Nexus 4 as well, timely updates are great!

Well, that and the £150 credit I had for the Sony Store...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] ascariss:
It's pretty funny, Sony has this problem every time, they announce a new product and it takes many months to ship, this seems to happen a lot. I remember when the X-Series Walkman was announced, took 4-5 months before it hit the shops and into people's hands.

Regardless, the tablet Z is a great product except for 3 things that won't be changed, 1 the processor, sony should have opted for the new snapdragons, but doesn't matter. I like a thin device like anyone else but honestly, if 5mm or even 10mm more would allow for a larger capacity battery, then I'm all for a thicker device. Finally a wacom pen input like the galaxy note's but then that won't be happening.

I am hoping that rumours of that 7 inch sony tablet are true, because at this moment, I can't see anything replacing my 7.7 tab at this moment, not even the note 8, which could have been so much better. The new rumoured nexus should be nice but it will take a while before it hits poland, or the rumour 8inch Full HD amoled from samsung, which I'll believe it when I see it but then samsung's recent designs have been rather poor and substandard, premium prices for non-premium materials.

One last thing, why is there no more keyboard cover for the new tablet Z? :/
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jamieuk23:
Sony

I am torn between this and the Nexus 10, looking to use it for mostly gaming. Is there a clear winner out the two? am unsure which is the most powerful as well?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xzabre:
I'd say they are both about the same in performance but I'd advise the Tablet Z for you because of the crisper screen. And you can game in the bathtub or in the shower with the Tablet Z :D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperia_pro:
But... If Sony continue with this kind of problems of the updates to devices I think for me isnt option.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] mrsanches:
Rumors from esato forums said a new Xperia tablet may be coming with s800 this year
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
If truly there is one with a snapdragon 800, I will definitely wait for that.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rdalev:
I find it unbelievable the way you people are drooling over this tablet and just have to have it!

If someone were to have informed me of Sony's total lack of support and utter disregard for customer concerns on SONY'S official forum, like people on this forum have done for you, I would have thought twice, before shelling out $650 for the Xperia S. Hardware will only get you so far without support for that hardware!

And do you want to know the kicker? While I'm sitting here hoping Sony has not abandoned a tablet that is less than a year old and not fixing or updating it, they didn't mind taking the time and man power needed to issue an update that locked down the bootloader, so that at least if they have abandoned their previous tablet failures, the people whose money Sony gladly took, could at least root to try and improve said defects.......... how's that for customer service.

It's your money but you better hope Sony manufacturers the perfect tablet out of the box, because if something doesn't work right and you judge Sony by their previous endeavors into the big boys world of tablets,think Asus, Samsung or Google, your screwed!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
they do treat even smartphone users this way, anyone just thinks this is standard for just sony vaio who made the xperia tablet s and tablet s1 but its not.

Sony mobile is the one treating customers like this asswell.

Just check sony mobile facebook lot users complaining that their 1 year old smartphone has yet to receive jelly bean and that its few weeks late.

Sony got their budget smartphones updates, but anything with premium pricetag is clearly low priority.

Anyway i guess some people are just like zombies buying every new smartphone every year not giving a damn about future support.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
I have an Xperia S. I know that it is frustrating to not get updates etc. But I am judging this tablet from its specs. It does look appealing. Yes Asus, Samsung or Google are more established in the tablet market and they produce good products however the following are my comments:

1. Asus tablets - Good but I don't think it's worth the money you pay for (personally)

2. Samsung - Used the Tab 2, not enough power in it. it starters from time to time. Certainly not buying that as it is clearly not future proof.

3. Google - Nexus 7 too small, Nexus 10 - do like it but not big on its look (some people love it but I am not a big fan).

So given everything, the Xperia Tablet Z appears to be the closest to my ideal tablet. Not saying I will get it. That's why I havent pre-ordered it. Waiting for the reviews, the feedback before deciding.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
You do realise that if you gonna buy xperia tablet z and android 5.0 comes out soon that tablet z will have to wait much longer on the update then you would have with asus samsung or google etc ?.

Like i say'd support is awfull you buy a sony tablet and its gonna be expired pretty soon, because sony don't really care about updates.

Eitherway you gonna have to wait long time for an update if their gonna be one.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Agreed. That is why I have NOT pre-ordered it. I am waiting till the last minute to make a decision. Waiting to see how Key Lim Pie is like, any new tablets etc. But personally I am not too bothered about the OS as much as some people do. As long as my tablet runs fine under heavy usage, no lags/stutters, I will be happy.

The Tablet Z on paper looks nice, NOW, but not sure if it will be when it's released in May. Really need to see how it performs and if there are any annoying issues. I personally have not had much problem with my Xperia S except for the yellow screen issue which they replaced with a new one. If the Tablet Z will be a non-problematic child, personally, I don't see why it should be off my option list.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Ubichinon:
I just read on www.chip.de that the battery of the Xperia Tablet Z lasts only 4 hours in video playback and 5 hours in surfing... Thats very low for a tablet, the Asus Tf700 lasts about 7,5 hours of video playback without the dock....
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Would't suprise me if they just played videos for 4 hours and tablet randomly shutted down...........

i guess that would confirm that even tablet z have the issue lol :D

If not then seriously omfg sony hire some one already to deal with issues in android team :D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
Thanks for posting this. I couldn’t agree more! I’m more or less on the same boat except that I pre-ordered the Xperia Tablet Z and I’ll stick to it for the time being.

Honestly I think that the whole discussion about software support is pure speculation at this point. It seems that Sony is for the first time seriously considering stepping into the tablet market and if they want to keep on the game, they will have to provide some kind of support. Software support will largely depend on how wide-spread the device turns out to be. If it’s successful it will sell more and the demand for updates and fixes will increase; not to mention that custom ROM’s and mods are sure to follow. I owned a couple of the very popular Galaxy-series smartphones for example and I never ran the Samsung stock ROM in any of them. If the device is hot software will thrive. That’s the beauty of Android and one of the reasons I love sites like XDA.

Of course being an early adopter has its risks. If the device flops Sony and the communities will move focus elsewhere and your device loses value. However I really need a tablet now and I think the Xperia Tablet Z will be a fine toy to have around either way. I’ll keep my coins on the table. I’ve been a IT guy and a gadget enthusiast for about 15 years I think I still know a “winner” when I see one. The dice are rolling ;)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
It's not fair to pull Sony Mobile into this equation.

They've been good for updates, all 2012 devices had Ice Cream Sandwich (that's 1 OS upgrade they've had) - why should they receive anymore? Why waste time updating an older phone when people are more interested in the technology your releasing now?

Just because JellyBean hasn't been released for the Xperia S, doesn't mean that Sony Mobile are poor at updating. It means that they've had 1 OS upgrade, and their not on the top of the list. Lets face it, when these devices where released, there was no hint of JellyBean even being released, let alone it being released on 2012 handsets.

The Xperia Tablet S is a different story - it's not had much support, no JellyBean as promised, so not even a single OS upgrade.

Alot of Android manufactures don't even bother pushing an upgrade, let alone 2! - Which leaves the question; when will people be pleased?

It's like releasing a version of Android in 10 years time and complaining that a 10 year old phone won't receive it.

Bottom line; I'm pleased with all my Sony devices, JellyBean or no JellyBean, I've never had an issue, if my device is faulty they'll replace it, what more can I want?

You buy a device for the features it has on purchase, not for the features it 'might' have in the future.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
tablets ment to last lot longer then 1 year least 3 4 years........

Look at the oldest asus tablet it got jelly bean.

Sony already deciding to drop off tablet s1 1 year old tablet with same random shutdown issues thats 2 years old.

So 2 years and they haven't fixed anything yet.............

Sony should be ashamed of them self .........

The attitude sony has towards tablet s1 owners is the same attitude we xperia tablet s owners getting, and tablet z owners will get screwed over asswell.

If the xperia tablet z has poor batery then i'm verry happy that i did't exchange my xperia tablet s yet.

The main reason i decided to go for xperia tablet s is due nvidia tegra 3 and its impresive batery life 699 minuts vs 737 minuts asus transformer tft300 + dock

the dock also has own batery.

the second reason was jelly bean would come out verry soon so i just decided to go with it i actualy wanted a tablet with jelly bean right away.......

Also not everyone exchange their phone every year sony has a lot smartphones if i believe people that complain that are like year old, its sony's own fault for over producing to many models on market......

They should stick to like 1 mid 1 high end smartphone a year supporting them least 2-3 years.

and just stick to one tablet release a year supporting them least 3 years........

If sony decide to stop selling xperia tablet s thats fine i don't care, i payed premium i expect premium service so far if gotten no service at all.

Sony should be happy if i least still consider buying a xperia SP, what they should focus on is fishing out the bad fishes in the android team fire them and get more people on the team........

The problem with android team is't just that its small but also that their people in that team that are incompetent and are underestimating issues people have.......

sorry if this little unreadable i have bad habbit off writing poorly and not using , when i'm frustated.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
You seems to be of the opinion that Jelly Bean is a pile of crap and everyone will need to update instantly!? I am all for products getting updated to the newest software (which is why I have a Nexus 4), but that is what the Nexus devices are for, competitors are never going to be as timely but thats just what you get, as long as you are aware of it when you purchase you can't moan too much.

Everyone is crying out for Jelly Bean now (which is a undeniably a marked improvement from ICS) but as soon as 5.0 is released everyone is going to be screaming for that and acting like Jelly Bean is unbelievably old fashioned and its a scam that Sony isn't updating. Some people will just never be happy...

The market exists for competition. If you want timely updates go for a Nexus, or maybe even a Samsung if you can handle TouchWiz. If you want something a little different (in my case expandable memory) then the Xperia Tablet Z might just be for you.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
You've got it off to a "T" skimpychimpy!

I see the pre-order date for the Xperia Tablet Z has been pushed forward to the 22th instead of the 29th.

skimpychimpy, has your delivery date changed for your pre-order online?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Obvious troll is obvious
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
I plugged mine in to charge this morning 17% battery left. 1 day two hours it had been unplugged. 5.5 hours on screen time. Streamed one game of thrones episode then one Hell on wheels episode. Browsed for quite a while. Watched a couple YouTube videos. Google+, Facebook, Twitter, cloud calendar syncing, social life all at default refresh intervals. No stamina mode. WiFi and Bluetooth on the whole time. Screen at about 25-35% brightness.

Remember this tablet has a 6,000mAh battery. Compare that to the other tablets and you will see why they last longer. But no other tablet is this thin or lite.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Zer0K3wL, why does every topic need to be turned anti Sony?

We know you've got issues with your tablet,but we don't need to hear them in every topic!

This is for details about the new Sony Mobile device, please keep any discussion relating to the XTS or your 'frustrations' to their own threads.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
No, not yet, has yours? My delivery date is still sitting on 12th - 14th April.

Not at all, I am just putting my thoughts forward which happen to disagree with what you think. If anything, you Sir, are the troll :p
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Went to my local store last week, ETA on their system was "End of May" - they also rang Sony whilst I was there who had confirmed the same thing.

Something about a defect, but that was all they could give, sadly. Still got my pre-order though.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
Damn, will just have to wait and see. My friend who called me from Sony was saying 24th but earlier that week would be nice!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Good post there. Like I said, i am not too big on having the latest version. Yes there are benefits from getting them but to me its not an issue as long as my tablet isn't lagging/stuttering and works fine. For a normal user, you wouldn't even notice most of the differences. For me as long as you get a good experience, I wouldn't be shouting for an update or rushing to get it. It's good to get the update, but not essential if nothing is wrong with the current version. This is my opinion. As pointed out, if you want a timely update, get a Nexus. Solves all your problems.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
I don't hate jelly bean i just hate sony for slow updates.

And yes i do understand their some issues with updates surrounding google, but sony is clearly the slowest other brands don't have issues why should sony........

edit: my sony hx750 tv just got update lemme count how many updates it had so far i believe like 8 updates........

My xperia tablet s has only gotten like 1 update i believe to lock you out and to give you kick in the nuts.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] gordo79:
My only issue with sony is there keeping all the tabs so locked down, all I really want is an option to be able to unlock MY bootloader voiding the warranty if required by sony.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] dex9mm:
Yes the opition should be there for you to its a choice that most people that want to root do so under Their own steam and its a choice most dont complain about if some thing breaks its dissipointing that sony dont pay more heed to the community as there product could really take off on cm

Zero

You sir are a troll

sent from rooted xperia tablet s thanks condi and bluechip
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
http://www.thinkdigit.com/Mobiles-PDAs/Sony-Xperia-Z-models-suffering-from-random_13978.html

Looks like issue extents to even xperia z probably tablet z also since its same software.

What are you sony's lawyer or something ?

Go home your drunk.........

Same as i say'd above.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rdalev:
Err...............what part of Sony locking down the boot loader on the Xperia Tablet S, did you not understand ?

Again, you better hope the Z works perfect out of the box, because once you buy it, it's "As Is!"

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I'll be pleased when Sony issues the JB update, "THEY PROMISED" and fixes the random shutdowns, which were not advertised !

BTW, heard the Z is suffering from random shutdowns........................Good Luck !
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Doubt it.

http://www.thinkdigit.com/Mobiles-PDAs/Sony-Xperia-Z-models-suffering-from-random_13978.html

Xperia z have same issues i just googled and just by coincidence came across that article.

save to asume that xperia tablet z have same issue also unless they already fixed it.

But this kindy proofs how incompetent the android team is at sony, again i don't mean google and no i don't hate jelly bean.

Heck i don't even hate sony i hate the android team that works at sony and for sony, for all i care their should be some one fired for this failure for last few years.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rdalev:
Concerning Asus, their customer service is far superior to Sony's, which should alleviate your issues with the price of their tablets !

I purchased the Transformer Prime, when it first hit the streets, beautiful device, with ONE flaw ! They advertised it as GPS capable, but because of the all-aluminum back, GPS was basically useless......................Asus issued those who wanted it, myself included, a FULL refund..............5 months after I had purchased it !

Let's see Sony match that !

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How is he a Troll, after Sony TOOK his money, then abandoned the defective product they sold him!

dex9mm

You sir are a Sony Lemming !
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Asus have their own problems to tough, their quality control is so crap changes are that if you buy tablet from them that you least have 1 stuck or dead pixel.

I hope asus fix their quality control someday, because their nothing wrong with their pixel policy and warranty i believe.