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[Xperia Tablet Z General] lukesjeans:
Well.......maybe it will be good......being stuck at jelly bean?

In all seriousness I'm excited but I think I'll stick to Samsung.....miss Sony but not enough to prove they are reliable yet
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rspy:
i will not upgrade my tablet xperia s for the Tablet Z.. just for a bigger display and 1gb of ram more.. ? (i don't care about nfc, waterproof or LTE) so, thanks sony, but no thanks...:p maybe Sony Tablet 2014..
[Xperia Tablet Z General] alkhemista:
Lmao. Sony, STOP DIGGING.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Where'd you get the info the Xperia Tablet S was a failure?

I'll upgrade if the price is right.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Tikki Pon:
if Sony open the bootloader and other things it will be powerful,but reality is another awful story.... but i wanna see how it be
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Hi, I remember you were the 1st one who got this tablet :)

See its a failure, how many units has been sold, nobody knows n believe me number is very minimum.

On top of that, Xperia Tablet S launched in Singapore recently with a hefty price tag of SGD 750+

Nexus 10 is much better than Xperia Tablet S !!

Xperia Tablet S still carrying genetical WiFi issue, poor screen n old OS.

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Just because small numbers of a device have been sold, doesn't automatically deam the product a failure.

There's been minimal advertising for both these tablets. Look at the TV and internet campaigns Sony do for their phones & tablets, then compare it to Samsung and Apple. Hardly anyone is aware these devices exist.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] DdcCabuslay:
I already opened a thread for the XTZ news and rumours before you. Do we need another?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Topery Chiang:
No the book appearance?

And I am already tired of the luxuriant UI of Sony.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Ubichinon:
Maybe the the fact that there were so many build quality related problems + wifi, screen flickering issues (which arent fully gone) and the tablet costs 400 bucks for 10 gibs of memory.. Also accesosries come only from sony and cost a lot + tablets like acer210 got jelly bean(note:cheaper plastic tablet,not the "premium" Sony) while we are still waiting. And we will probably be stuck on it. Hopefully there will be a way to root it and unlock bootloader, otherwise im done with sony tablet for good.

Ps: Sony handsets get a totally different attitude, some of them even got a sony flashinfg tool, instructions to unlock bootloaders are on their site etc...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] ascariss:
I don't get why Sony didn't opt for, I don't know, 2-3mm more for the depth and made the battery larger. Even the ipad 2 has a larger capacity battery. It doesn't matter to me that the new cpu and so on are more battery efficient, I want longer battery life not the same but thinner device.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Sony's marketing is a.'failure', not the products.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Re: Sony Xperia Z Tablet - Revealed on 22nd JAN Japan

2 days to go, lets see how this new tablet look like and wats the price point ???

I am NOT going to buy if its expensive..had terrible experience with Sony Tablet S and P !!!

sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
xperia tablet s a failure ?

WHY ?

Like their any tablets at release working properly atm...............

Compare xperia tablet s to a transformer

9/10 asus transformers have least 1 dead pixel on the screen no point to rma since just get back something broken anyway while asus quality control is non existant.

Samsung make cheap tablets made off cheap materials.

So what alternatives are their really left ?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] ascariss:
Depends how one defines failure, sales, great reviews, etc. Sales wise I doubt it is a massive hit, I feel samsung, asus and acer have done better in that dept.

Owning a 7.7 from samsung, I can't agree with the statement that it is cheap, the 7.7 is one of the best built samsung tablets. but sadly the current crop of tablets from samsung is not, especially the the note 10.1, plastic everywhere :( Maybe this is something they will address at MWC this year, but I doubt it.

I just hope the xperia z tablet has a different design than the current tablet s, personally not a fan of the folded magazine design.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rspy:
You're right, We do not have much choice.. I think that Sony has the best tablet on the market, too bad that the table don't have the software support it deserves. :(

and about Samsung, yes, is made of cheap materials, also Samsung UI is just depressing.. :/
[Xperia Tablet Z General] lukesjeans:
Re: Sony Xperia Z Tablet - Revealed on 22nd JAN Japan

Samsung's ui I agree is bad but its the software that ultimately pulled me away from Sony. Sure I loved timescape and all of Sony's ui but Samsung's multi window and gesture controls are amazing. If the xperia z tablet has some form of pen like the s-pen I'm in. I'm going to college next year and that pen to math equation app is amazing. Hope Sony delivers
[Xperia Tablet Z General] CoolApps:
Re: Sony Xperia Z Tablet - Revealed on 22nd JAN Japan

The thing is WHY is Sony not allowing freedom on Sony tablets while Sony phones has freedom? :sly:
[Xperia Tablet Z General] stifilz:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

First one I have seen with XTZ. Yay

Can you please post your /system/build.prop? Thanks

Or even a firmware.ftf :D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jiggykilla:
I Agree with this 100 percent, I will not be buying another sony product until they start putting the customer 1st! The least they can do is unlock the bootloaders.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
@Spectre51

So with early impression how would you compare XTZ with Nexus 10 (considering the price factor?)
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Won't post the firmware since it is a test build. I'll get the build.prop later and post it.

Never used a Nexus 10 unfortunately so not sure I could give an honest opinion but here is some comments on the XTZ:

Pictures available here http://s603.photobucket.com/user/spectre51/library/Phone stuff/Xperia Tablet Z?page=1 (including some for those that like to see viewing angles compared to my other Xperia devices)

After using this for a while I really like the way it feels in your hand. Much easier to hold that the iPad. I especially like it in portrait, this tablet is so light it doesn't tire your hand out at all.

The ir blaster is Suh-weet. Paired it to my Sony Bravia and Verizon Fios cable box with minimal effort. I'll have to play with it tomorrow using the TV Sideview app from Sony. It's also great that you can program all your devices and take the tablet to any room and just select which device you want to connect to. Universal remote/Tablet

The camera is...a tablet camera, nothing to write home about but it's there if you need it. HDR photos and 1080p if you want to.

Sound is good, seemed plenty loud for me when watching a movie though I would have liked it better if the speakers pointed towards the front. If you hold the tablet with both hands in landscape mode cupping the bottom corners/speakers you get much louder sound. It does have xLoud and two other sound options (I'll post a pic of them after this).

Video Unlimited and Music Unlimited don't seem to be working on the XTZ yet as when I open either it takes me to a webpage to download the app (which is already installed).

I don't have the right cable to sync my PS3 controller to the XTZ or I would have tested that out already. You have to plug it in the first time to sync it then can use it through bluetooth.

The Xperia Link app is cool for tethering the tablet to your Xperia smartphone. In my case I connected to my Xperia Z and it ran like a champ.

The Xperia small apps are even better on the tablet compared to the phone thanks to the extra screen real estate and being able to pop up a remote control window over your other windows is great for changing the TV station while browsing.

There is no preinstalled Quick settings widget but the some quick settings built in by tapping the clock area though I wise you could customize them. The wifi one for instance is just a link to the wifi settings instead of having a toggle.

There was some lag going between homescreens and some apps don't work (Modern Combat 3 crashed the tablet and forced a reboot) but I am using a prototype not for sale unit with not final software so that could be a cause. There is supposed to be an update for the one I am using next week (right after I give it back of course)

Gotta say the device is beautiful just like the Xperia Z. These two devices are perfect for each other. Both are well built and look amazing. I'll run some benchmarks tomorrow just to get an idea how it runs vs my other xperias.

More to come.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
Hey dude, congrats!!! :)

How did you get it so early? Which ROM are you running on? And how close is it to the Sony official OS release?

As for your offer to check things out I would be very thankful if you could provide more info on:

1. Performance playing 1080p videos streamed from any external source (mounted folder, UPnP, SMP or NAS)

2. Can the device be rooted?

3. How well it works NFC headphones or speakers.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Got it from a Sony employee to play with for the week. Running stock firmware on it right now. It's not a final retail build yet.

1. Streamed End of Watch (1080p) through my Plex Media Server on my MacMini with zero issues.

2. Not sure about the current methods of rooting if they will work. On this particular device I have the bootloader can be unlocked.

3. Don't have any NFC headphones or speakers to test :(
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Thanks for getting back to me,

Any 'new' live wallpapers from Sony, such as cosmic flow?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
This is definitely not the test build to be trying games. Played Shadowgun for a little while. The controls were jerky and then after I exited the game and went to uninstall it crashed the tablet. Nova 2 wouldn't play said it wasn't compatible. (don't own Nova 3 or MC4 sorry) Dead trigger played fine.

---------- Post added at 02:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:58 AM ----------

Not on this build.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Does it have themes like on the phones? Could you post a screenshot of red if it has.

Will the final models have unlockable bootloader? What about a contacts app to manage them,?

I think it's only for now

Cheers.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

The same themes as the phones. Not sure if the retail models will have unlockable bootloaders. Yes there is a contact's app.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] gordo79:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Any news on ps3 connectivity?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Just spoke to my local store in the UK who've been ringing round various departments.

No one knows when the tablet will be released, an indicator on their system was end of May, though thats also what the site says - so we could be waiting a while.

Won't be too happy if it is an end of May release. It's been announced long enough. The tablet I mean.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
Do you/they think that is going to affect the pre-orders which still claim an early April delivery?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
I asked them about that and why some orders said the device would ship around the 12th.

They thought it may have been an error, or an earlier date which has been pushed back and that dates would be changed.

I guess we're all in the dark, but hey, if it says the 14/15 April, then I see no reason why it wouldn't ship then.

From when the Tablet was announced for the UK, to the time of pre-order and delivery is the same time frame from when the Xperia Z was launched, pre-orders became available, and released in the UK.

May 28th would be a bugger and one that would cause me to cancel my order. I don't see why it would say April if it wasn't?

Can't wait that long. This was announced at the start of the year.

Oh - also sent Sony Mobile UK a message on FB, said they didn't know either. Bet they all do, just not saying!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
Yeah, yo have to wait that long would be pretty bad, but also wouldn't surprise me that much as its pretty much in the middle of Q2.

I am sure Sony UK know, but dont want to tell us as they know it will stir up a **** storm, a loads of cancelled orders. If I didn't have a Sony voucher to spend I would very much consider jumping ship...lets hope its worth the wait!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/sony-xperia-tablet-z-is-not-delayed-technical-glitch-blamed-1141950

Looks like we might be about to be let down!!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Oh what!

Well I've paid £30 towards my device so can't cancel it, but has lost the excitement of it a little. 28th May is a considerable distance away
[Xperia Tablet Z General] skimpychimpy:
I know. Balloon has well and truly been popped.

I have emailed Sony to ask for some clarification but I am not hopeful of any sort of response if I am honest. I also haven't been informed by Sony of the change of date so will wait and see if that was just a load of bull.

Sad times.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
hi there all. I am new hear. been following this thread mainly for a while now. Very interested in the tablet but will be holding out for more reviews.

To Spectre51, would you be able to shed some light on the following:

1. What is the battery life like?

2. In your opinion, how good is the quality of the screen? How is it compared to the iPad? (would have loved a comparison with the Nexus 10 but you had mentioned that you have had no chance of playing around with it).

3. General feel of the tablet, browsing, multitasking etc. compared to an iPad.

Thanks :).

Btw the May end release is a downer. However will get more time to consider any other new tablets. Google I/O will be before so would be great to see if anything new would be coming out.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
There's probably no use us speculating about here, looks like it won't change, but the release (late May) is quite a way off for a product launch, some 3/4 months after it was first announced.

If they thought it was a game changer that much, why not release earlier?

They have opened pre-orders just over 2 months ahead of release. Seems premature too.

Disappointment is an understatement.

I think the question we should ask Spectre is, 'is it actually worth the long wait?'
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Prefferably from browser take site like gametrailers.com load the desktop site and have adobe flash player avaible, this test can only be done however in stock browser aka not chrome.

Or can try third party browser that support flash.

Anyway important to load desktop site and load new video every time because old video remain in ram, its also important to consider that tablet z has more ram so will take much longer to reproduce if it has it, you just need some patience, you can however speed up and start next video every time video is fully buffered.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Such as playing media from the tablet on the ps3 and visa versa? Or you talking about something else?

1. Started with a full charge today, I'll let you know how the battery lasts.

2. Will do some more comparisons with full res photos on each.

3. So far it's quick and smooth. Multitasking is great and haven't had a browser crash or slow down at all. Just some apps not working on this build.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
Will it be worth the wait?

How'd you find the 10.1" design, not to big, comfortable?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xzabre:
Hey Spectre51,

Awesome of you to take your time to check some features for us!

Really hope the battery life is decent. Aside from the battery life I'm really curious what the build quality is like. How would the tablet last if I would take it hitchhiking for a couple of years? And do you really think the crashing of the games is because of the current build the XTZ uses?

Kind regards,

Dave
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Don't the tablet z have just as big batery as xperia tablet s ?

i figure it won't be much worse batery life, probably about same.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Gsmarena info: S on left, Z on right.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] SWFlyerUK:
The poorer battery life is understandable given its HD screen.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

It might not be as bad, because the new processor should use less battery...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

It feels very well built. It does have some flex in it especially since the long design of it. Would be interesting to see some good durability tests in that aspect. A hard cover case would help as far as the flexing of the tablet.

As far as the crashing I'm sure the current build has at least some issues that are causing the games to crash. I will try them on my Xperia Z and see how they run.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
Just question does it run thd games like sonic 4 ep2 thd ?, i known this might be stupid question but i own this game and exchanging my tablet for xperia tablet z, asuming sony pull through.

They just told me they just doing this for me cous its unique case they believe, oh well i'm gonna act stupid, i told them all the xperia tablet s have same issues.

did also test video playback yet like loading and buffering video's rapidly loading new one each time its fully buffered ?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Cheers Spectre51. Your review will definitely help with my decision. For me its all about screen quality, multi tasking capability and battery life.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

If there is a free version of that game I will try it. Haven't tested the video playback like that yet.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Zer0K3wL:
If its listed it probably works, thats kindy what i'm wondering. oh well guess i find out sooner or later.

Btw 3dmark released 3dmark on android today

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mdXR1cmVtYXJrLmRtYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBsaWNhdGlvbiJd

What kindy scores xperia tablet z gets on ice storm extreme and normal ?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Sonic 4 Episode 2 THD is not compatible with the XTZ (nor any of my other Xperias) Just the regular Sonic 4 Episode 2 is compatible.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zZWdhLnNvbmljNGVwMiJd

I will run 3dmark next, just finishing up GLBenchmark. and will post all the results.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Geekbench 2: http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/56012

GLBenchmark: https://glbenchmark.com/resultsoflogin.jsp?login=spectre51

Interesting to note the ion couldn't finish some of the tests because of low video memory and I had to run some tests one at a time or it would run out again. The Xperia S rebooted during the benchmark but on the second time it went through fine. The Xperia P didn't have any issue. The XS and TL completed but for some reason did not upload their results.

Antutu and Quadrant are attached.

3dmark coming.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] stifilz:
Build.prop please :D and THANK YOU for your contributions so far

Stifilz
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Sorry about that. It is attached.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Spectre, I've got a few more questions:

Does it have a notification light? (Should have, at least). How bright it is compared to S one? And where is it?

How long does it take to charge? (Use previous charges, no need to do another one if you don't want/have time)

Were you able to connect it with Xperia link with S? (Btw, what's the use for it, except as using the phone as a hotspot?

I think it's all for now... Cheers.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Yes it does. It's between the power button and volume rocker. It's bright but since it is on the side of the device if it's turned away from you you might not see it.

Not sure how long it takes to charge. I charge my devices at night so I haven't watched it charge.

Haven't tried Xperia Link with the S, only the Z. (hot spot is what it is used for :) )

3D Mark results

Xperia Tablet Z

Ice Storm - 10137

Ice Storm Exteme - 5907

Xperia Z

Ice Storm - 10548

Ice Storm Extreme - 5540

Xperia TL

Would not complete benchmark

Xperia ion

Would not complete benchmark

Xperia S

Would not complete benchmark

Xperia P

Ice Storm - 1357

Ice Storm Extreme - 767
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Thanks for the answers and result of benchmarks. Also, whenever you get the change, ask to whoever might have the answer about the bootloader being unlocked or not.

Cheers. :D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Oh an as for battery life: 8 h 34 m on battery currently with 3 h 17m on screen time and have 55% of the battery left. This is with facebook, twitter, google+, iCloud email, gmail, iCloud calendar sync, Social life, weather widget all running. Took about 10-20 pictures today, ran all the benchmarks (GL benchmark twice), browsed for quite a while, wifi and bluetooth on the whole time. Brightness at about 25% with adapt to lighting conditions on.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spectre51:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Some battery life pics. Did a lot of benchmarking today and took photos, lots of browsing using Chrome and tapatalk. No video playing other than a few online videos.

Stamina mode is of course off. Right now with it off it says 11 hours standby time but if I turn it on it says 4 days. I'm sure the benchmarks took a lot of juice but seems decent enough to me. With lighter use it would go a lot further and with stamina mode it would last a long time.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Tablet Z General] gordo79:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here
[Xperia Tablet Z General] TeH-BagS:
Battery life looks good. Benchmarks too.

Only setback is it's not gonna be released for a while still. I personally think Sony has mucked up the timing. This would probably be a great tablet to have now. Not sure if the same will hold in about 2 months time.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xperiax10.awesome:
Great SONY, wait for Google's IO where KeyLime Pie and some other great products will be announced and then release your outdated Xperia Tablet Z !!!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jumper62:
Re: [OFFICIAL][NEWS] Sony Xperia Z Tablet - All Details Here

Could you provide a system dump please?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] LeBoy:
A release date at the end of May is definitely a bummer. Google I/O will take place on 15-17 of May bringing some new perspective into the Android market. It remains to be seen if the Xperia Tablet Z will still shine in its full glory after the event.

Grief apart however I don’t think there’s not much we can do it about it. According to official word from Sony a April release in the West was never planned and the whole April rumours were a mere misunderstanding.

As for myself I’ll not cancel my preorder and keep a prying eye on new tablet announcements. If timing proves to be wrong for the Xperia Tablet Z I would then cancel it in favour of a better deal. For now… I wait :(