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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] se1000:
Yes and No. ** I do not work for T-Mobile, but this is how I understand things **

EIP has existed for a very long time now and will continue to exist. T-Mobile is simply being upfront with customers instead of building in a subsidy into a rate plan. In almost every case, the customer wins.

Here's one way to look at it. Value Plan + EIP = Classic plan Either way, the upfront costs are similar. In one case, you call it a downpayment, in another you call it a price w/ 2 year contact extension. EIP is typically 20 months, which is better than the 24 months a full blown 2 year extension will be. Again, as far as the initial cost of the phone, the downpayment is essentially equivalent to the previously advertised price of the phone with contract.

This model does a few things from the perspective of a customer. It gives you the option of purchasing phones outright, or opting to get what essentially is a 20 month interest free loan from t-mobile on up to $400 towards the purchase price of a phone. When that loan is paid off, you are left with a nice and small bill for just the services you use, the voice, data, and text services provided by T-Mobile. This opens the door wide open for people to bring unlocked devices over to T-Mobile, and enjoy a low price monthly rate plan. Previously, the best way to do this was to buy an unlocked phone, buy a carrier phone with a 2-year extension, and sell the carrier phone and put that towards the price of the unlocked phone.

This really is a win for pretty much all consumers. People who want a low initial cost can opt for the EIP, people who bring their own devices can choose to do so and enjoy a low monthly rate, and finally people who keep their devices for a long time will enjoy a low rate after they complete their EIP payments.

The only time this is NOT advantageous is if you decide to break the contract prior to the end of the EIP term + value plan contract. For example, if I buy a new phone, start a EIP plan for 20 months, and sign up for a 2 year value plan, I would have to pay a $200 penalty to break the value plan, and also $400 to close out the EIP. Of course, the way to get around this is to sell the phone to repay the EIP.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] theory611:
as far as i know, t-mobile has already offer $50 contract free service in NYC. that includes 4g network, unlimit calling, texing, web, etc.

I am current simple mobile user, $40 each month, and it is great!

I am sure if ATT, Verizon, don't take any action, most of their customers will walk way.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ddizzy81:
My contract ends in may...its gonna be a big decision whether I'm gonna leave T-Mobile or not

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
About a month ago a tmo rep told me they are doing this soon.

O well doesn't bother me lol
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
Yeah its not all that new . Tmobile has been allowing people to break up their payments since they announced their even more plus plans. I think its a great option in present times for those that can't afford to fork out 500$ in one transaction.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Chuckatron:
They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] daxecutioner24:
Well to be honest they kinda have to keep that early termination fee, because basically if they don't what's to keep you from leaving after you only payed 149.99 for a 800 phone. Even if you still decide to leave you only end up paying about 350. 200 fee plus the 150 you put down. This is coming from a guy who really dislike tmobile I'm just with them because I almost don't pay anything on a 5 line account. Really there's not much difference between classic and value when it comes to buying a phone both tie you to a 2 year contract and early fee.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] LiquidGlow:
Isn't this pretty much the same thing as their Value Plan they've had for some time now? I've been on that plan for a bit over a year now. For me, the plus side is that over the course of a two year period, I'll end up saving roughly $1200 for two lines compared to my previous plan with everything unlimited.

The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Edit: Chuck beat me to it LoL. I'm so not used to typing novel-length msgs on a mobile xD
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dito33:
So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ddizzy81:
Good question

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mrmako777:
LOL...pay now, pay later. do the math. if youre on a classic plan, you still pay full price for the phone, you just pay for it a little a time added onto your monthly bill. so, you are okay with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone... ;)
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
Don't see why they would stop offering the extended insurance. If you're going to be paying for you're phone for 2 years you might as well have insurance that also extends the warranty for that long.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] TheSeanTeam:
Actually the promos DO apply. The last sale was a zero down sale, so you get your down payment back as a rebate. So instead of a $600 phone it's only $400. It's no different than a free phone with a higher monthly payment.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nomadrider123:
I haven't had a plan for years. If you look you can find a deal on craigslist sometimes ebay
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Pennycake:
I prefer it the way they're going.

However, if people want to be screwed and over-pay for their phones, why not let them and make money off them ?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] LiquidGlow:
Maybe they changed the stipulations of the Value Plan since I switched? I remember when I first switched, the reps told me the promotions don't apply anymore. When I upgraded to my S3 mid-2012, they pretty much reiterated the same thing. I didn't look into the details of that recent promo of zero down but I assumed it just meant they would spread that initial down payment into your subsequent monthly bills.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] jovyishere:
EIP isn't so bad. You make a down payment.. sometimes u get a rebate on the down payment and then you finance the rest of the fone which is usually 15-20 bucks a month for 20 months interest free. What I did also here is that the price of the phone insurance is going up 5 bucks so that really sucks.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] brad0112358:
The only reason I can think of for eliminating the fully subsidized plans (which seemed to be more expensive overall and thus better for T-Mobile) is to prevent the competition from using the expensive plans in cost comparisons. Somehow I doubt the goal was to save foolish customers money or to eliminate customer confusion
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] RaymondPJR:
I got a letter from Assurion just a few days ago. The price did not go up, but the deductible did. At least that's how I read it.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] shinglers:
All I have to say is this, ITS ABOUT F***ING TIME!!!! I'll pay for the phone outright if my monthly bill is allot cheaper.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DatNizzle:
Problem is the plan is not a lot cheaper.

My family plan would be the same, but my phones costs more. Did I mention it's still under contract?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Pennycake:
You could just buy the phone on your own and do one of the pre-paid plans.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] george241312:
About damn time .....
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] LawrenceSeattle:
The TM 30/mo prepaid plan seems pretty nice. Unlimited 4g, text and 100 min. Wish I wasn't on contract now. Could probably save another 30 bucks a month off the value plan.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] whatsitsnamenow:
4g is not unlimited on that plan. Data is unlimited.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] t3dpott3r:
That's exactly what they said. In some ways I don't mind because I have only had to use the replacement one time in the last 2 years (son dropped my phone down the stairs) and when I did the math I still paid less in those 2yrs at 7.99 a month including the deductible then I would have paid to replace the entire phone.. lol.. but it still sucks knowing that I'll have to pay more if i need to use it again.

The montly insurance price will be staying the same, it's the deductible that's going up.

As for the phone price your right. I just got off the phone with T Mobile and on a samsung galaxy s3 the total payment when eligible for an upgrade is 200 down, 100 dollar mail in rebate, and then 20 dollars a month for 20 months.

The 1 thing that I have heard no 1 mentioned on this thread is something the representative just told me. That although you're being charged 20 dollars a month for 20 months you are also given 15 dollar discount on your internet for 20 months. I don't know if this is something they just started but the same 15 dollar discount on internet was available for me with all of the phones I was looking at.

Also when all is said and done it brings the total price of your phone after discounts and rebates to just over 200 dollars not including taxes.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] jcbofkc:
Truly unlimited calling, text and 4G WEB? $50? Wow! That is a deal. I can get a similar deal here in KC but they limit the talk minutes to 500 and throttle you on the web after a while. What does Tmobile call the plan? It's not available on their web site either.

Next time I am in NY I may have to change my plan. I wonder how they get away with charging more in Kansas City for a nation wide plan.

I think I will call retentions and find out.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
Yeah I will have to check on that too... I pay like 80-90 for truly unlimited everything
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] rcsrich:
Used to be that with prepaid, you didn't get roaming services- this is pretty consistent across most carriers' prepaid plans. I'm not sure if that's still the case, but it's one big reason why prepaid services are typically cheaper than equivalent postpaid plans.
[Android Apps and Games] markacme:
Repeat YouTube video from Standard Goolge YouTube app on your Android device. Just tap 'Add to Repeater for YouTube' when sharing a video with native YouTube app.

With Repeater for YouTube, you can:

-loop YouTube videos (in selected time)

-watch YouTube videos in full screen HD

-add looped videos to playlist

-freeze the app to play video in the background (best audio quality)

playstore -https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xper.youtube.repeater
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stealthfx:
Hey Guys,

I rooted my phone last night, tested out CM10, and then restored my original stock backup just so I could have everything fully functioning for today. As of now, I am still rooted with CWM touch as my recovery. I am not getting cell service. I have done a battery pull and gone in and out of airplane mode. But still no luck. One thing, when I loaded CM10 stable, this "Activating" screen came up on first boot, and would'nt go away, so I did a battery pull, and just restored. I hope that didn't reprovision my phone and do something stupid. Any help would be appreciated. If not, I am about to go full stock restore, and call Verizon crying (from a working phone.)

Update* - I am getting random incoming text messages. But I can't respond or make outgoing calls. Also, in phone info, I have an IMEI # (or whatever), but it shows mobile data as disconnected (proabbly b\c I am on wifi).

P.S - Thread search tools are not available. So don't yell at me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobAbooE:
The search never works for me. Give this read. I don't rum CM or know if this will even help your situation.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35600769&postcount=2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kintwofan:
This right here.

Op was it cm10 or cm10.1 you flashed?

Sent from my LG spectrum (that's right) blazing fast on cm10!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stealthfx:
Thank you so much!! Step two worked for me perfectly. No more flashing nightlies. Ever.

Note* - I actually flashed 10.1 first, you know, because it makes perfect sense to flash an unstable build BEFORE testing your phone with a stable one (idiot move on my part). I then flashed stable 10.0, but it was too late. This is my first sim card phone, all my android devices over the past 5 years have been on sprint, and have been HTC. Steep learning curve on my part. But now I know. Thank you guys for you quick help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobAbooE:
There's a lot to learn, glag it works.

Just make sure you back up your imei and never flash a rom that's not made for the Verizon gs3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stealthfx:
I was just reading on the backup process. It's whole new host of pitfalls with a new device\carrier.

Thanks again guys.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Easiest to flash Synergy and it will make a flashable IEMI backup on initial flash. :cool:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlazeHN:
Hello friends.

I got a S3 bought on the Tigo carrier, but I needed it to use it on Claro carrier. The day they give the phone to me I tested my Claro Sim and since all was good I decided to buy it. And actually it worked all fine for like 2 months, then suddently I got a "Cannot Register on Network" message, while on this state I cant make/recive phone calls or SMS but oddly I still have full 3G internet with no problem. Removing battery / SIM used to solve the problem sometimes but not anymore. I tried change SIM for a new one and still the same problem. Tried hard reset aswell and didnt helped. Its weird because I used it on Claro perfectly for 2 months then this happened. If I put a Tigo SIM it works all good. =/

What do you suggest me to do? I need to use my Claro number.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lt.Win:
I'm planning on buying a new phone this April after my exams.

My budget is real tight, and it goes upto INR18000-19000 tops ($350 approx by today's rate). I have found A nexus s for real cheap, in new condition on a site. Should I go for it, or should I wait for the s3 mini? Nexus S is a great phone, and as long as it gets the KLP (5.0) update from CM, which I'm quite sure it will, I have no problem with it.

Please advise me. Thanks a bunch in advance!! :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gfinockio:
Depends on your definition of "real cheap". Sub-$150? Then I'd say go for it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lt.Win:
I'm getting it for $245 approx. Used to get it for 20k which is $360 approx.

Edit: Does photosphere work on official CM10.1?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AzN MusiQ:
Yes but you need the zip.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus S mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lt.Win:
Cool, thanks. I may just end up buying it.

Thanks to everyone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gfinockio:
You can get it cheaper than that. I paid $120 CDN for mine. At that price, you can probably swing a used S3, or even a new Nexus 4.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lt.Win:
Nexus 4 not yet released here. Imported at 30k. That's the least price atm. That's around $545....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
I wouldn't recommend it. It's definitely showing its age and even a Galaxy S2 would serve you better.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ted Mosby:
One vote more for S2. S2 is widely spread prices are low. Dont like the looks, but the size is perfect and it's much faster than NS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Talal916:
I feel at $350 you would be better off buying an S3 or One X+ and getting it shipped to India. The NS is a great phone, but it's showing it's age.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wareju:
I'd keep looking, I just bought one for $150 in good shape on craigslist. They were a good bit higher on ebay.

edit: like someone mentioned I have seen decent S3s for about $300, suppose it could be very different where you're at though.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gnaver:
250 for nexus s is too much I think. Ten minutes on sale sites in my country and I found 10 advertisements for the nexus I9250 for max 300 dollars (max price is for one month old). I suggest you to search a little longer or wait a few days. When new nexus will be released in your country, people will start to get rid of the old one to get money for the new (as in here, retail price for nexus is more than 500 dollars here, but nexus 4 its about to launch so people are getting desperate to get money)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gfinockio:
Heck - I'd sell you my Nexus S for $200 (plus shipping), and include a case, charger and extra battery!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lt.Win:
Well, you're gonna have to wait till March for that. Plus selling isn't allowed anymore, so yeah.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.faramroze:
Can get a new Nexus S for $173 plus shipping if bought from international sellers eBay India.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jojoost:
Why exactly do you want the nexus s, and not something else? Something newer?

---------- Post added at 12:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:26 PM ----------

I would go for the galaxy nexus if you also wish to get KLP!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Murakuchi:
Nexus s

You know it for sure?

It's a phone from 2010, so its a bit older.

I have the nexus s for 1.5 year, and i must say I'm still happy with it.

One coin, I have a nexus s with the "unresponsive touchscreen" problem.

Sometimes after unlocking the device there some unresponsive spots on the screen. This is easy to fix. (turn on/of the screen)

Its a hardware problem, but only some nexus s devices have that problem

When you find a good deal, i say buy it! But when you have the money to buy a newer devices, i should buy a newer one
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lt.Win:
Yup. Agree with all of you. Probably getting an SGS3 Mini. Suits my needs, and its new too! :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] varesa:
Tell me where I can get a N4 for less than 300$ :)

I have been looking for a replacement for my NS, that is starting to get old + much random reboots. The cheapest Nexus 4 I can find from ebay is about 550$, and the local shops sell it for 800$.

From what I've heard, it is pretty cheap in countries like Germany, where it is available from Google Play. I really wish Google Play would sell it's devices to Finland...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gnaver:
In Germany the official price is slightly above 400 dollars for 8gb version the 16gb version is for 550 if I read it right :) I wish that my country have Google play shop also... is really nice price for a new superb phone...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samveen:
I just got me a

used

GT-I9020T variant on the 11th of Jan for INR 9000, (USD 165) in good condition (screen is absolutely perfect) off the Bangalore craigslist. I'd say, get yourself a second hand one, instead of going in for a brand new item. Just examine the phone, nad pop on a new cover and you're good to go. Or spend your complete budget and go for a Galaxy Nexus (again second hand). New phones are over-rated :p
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frank060272:
Not worth it anymore, at least if you want speed and memory its not.

Most apps work but newer apps get laggie. So no for that money i would buy something else.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ej8989:
I thought this problem was ROM dependent. I only experience it randomly with a 4.2.1 ROM. (Cannot determine yet what specific ROM)
[LG Optimus 2x] Niel6s:
Hello people,

when i got my lg 2x speed last week I updated to ICS via the lg update tools, it worked fine so far but I wanted something else. Came home today and wanted to flash Eaglesblood rom (v. 4.0.4.) booted into cwm (v5.0.2.8) and after formatting and selecting the rom it said something like: "code 7 installation aborted". I thought it may be an old cwm so I wanted to flash cwm touch 6.0.1.2. Guess what... installation aborted. Now I don't care too much about the installation but when I reboot it's stuck on the pink LG logo (30 min waiting and no change whatsoever seems pretty stuck to me).

Has anyone got an idea how to fix this? Maybe the the AllInOne toolkit with kdz + BB files? Pls help me.:confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] Micronuub:
You flashed an Old gingerbread bootloader ROM since you upgraded too ICS with the tool you now got the new ICS bootloader and now your partition layout is messed up use the AIO (all in one toolkit) @ the android development forum follow the tutorial an nvflash to the new ICS bootloader this will fix your problem abd don't try to flash old bootloader roms again on a nee bootloader.

Beware : when nvflashing make a backup of your whole internal sd card since your sdcard will get fully wiped.
[LG Optimus 2x] Niel6s:
Testing it now, thanks for the reply:angel:
[LG Optimus 2x] Niel6s:
Well, I succeded to get it booting by changing the partitions and flashing cm10.

Is there a way to get back to GB btw, I fellt it quite a bit more responsive and less laggy.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] kicker63:
Updated since so you will have to look down on your firmware list :http://www.samfirmware.com/
[Galaxy S III Mini General] SharpnShiny:
Hello does anyone know the exact name to search for this phone in PTCRB? I tried GT-I8190N and got nothing...thanks!

http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/complete_request.cfm
[Galaxy S III Mini General] kicker63:
Firmware for all GT-I8190's

Try this site, there's firmwares for all different carriers : http://www.tsar3000.com/Joomla/inde...iii-mini-firmwares&catid=55:samsung&Itemid=82 .Please hit the thanks button if this has helped you in anyway. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] SharpnShiny:
Thanks buddy!
[Galaxy S III Mini General] kicker63:
Re: more European Firmware for GT-I8190N only

Your welcome that's what we're here for ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] gryffon:
Hello there!

I'm like the Wilchild 3.3 Rom but I don't think it is receiving any further developement right now. As it is only designed for Marvel I have read some folk have used it on the US CDMA Marvelc and maybe fixed the WIFI/Data issues?

Everything is a little grey regarding this and I was wondering if I could get some real answers here.

Yes it maybe outdated, but I like it, if there is a fix I would like to try it. I am aware of the VM patch, but as yet have not found were to download it or even if it will work on my US cellular carrier.

Some straight forward answers would be appreciated...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Casparovic:
Hi guys,

I just bought a second hand transformer prime (tf201) but it is still running 4.0.3. It is a Dutch tablet.

When I manually search for updates it doesn't find the JB update. Does anyone know how I can solve this?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Thrakka:
Hi Caparovic,

I had the same on my prime, I think it's because our primes are the first generation of primes, bought just after they were sold, one year ago.

If you want JB, you have to upgrade it manually, by installing a new JB ROM