yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Sharpe351:
I haven't tested on latest build_ but I believe it is working. It is the older version, but it works for me.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pissos13:
Thanks for answer, but tried with miracast on a MINIX neo x8-h, and when app connects it goes off. I don't know if is a problem in the device with their miracast or from this release. Is there any chance of updating to newer version so I can check if that way has more compatibility other than miracast of chromecast?

It seems that in the procedure of connection something goes wrong, as the miracast device searches again for connections.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] Sharpe351:
I think it may be the version they use. I'll look into it.

Sent from Vanir N7 Grouper
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pissos13:
Thank you, will wait without strings attached. But would be a great feature to have this working :)

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] Sharpe351:
I found this, but I cannot confirm if it works... https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki

Flash at your own risk.

Sent from Vanir N7 Grouper
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pissos13:
Already tried with version to 4.4.4 aosp it never tries to connect. Thanks anyway.

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[Nexus 7 Android Development] jimmycrackcorn1:
Hey y'all.. I'm getting the usual device incompatible @ the play store when trying to download Amazon. DPI is what ROM came with, I went as far as downloading a the non restricted dpi play store, still nothing. Can anyone help me out here, I've had these issues in the past but a any dpi play store apk has always fixed it. Maybe something in my settings I'm not seeing? Running 7-21 here.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] USBhost:
This one ?? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.mShop.android

If it is i can just give you the apk
[Nexus 7 Android Development] old_pocket:
Using Vanir since the last few versions. Very saticefied overall with speed and overall quality.

Works well together with m-kernel and f2fs.

091214 had some strange misbehaviour (as if no connection exists) browsing

(only in case a vpn connection is used) with some, (not all) browsers I am typically using.

Very strange. Reverting back to 0908 and everthing is fine again.

Maybe this is of interest for someone.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] molchmolch:
Servus,

I cannot boot into Vanir 5.0. The Google sign stays there for ever.

The same with 120914 and 121314 build.

I did fullWipe and installed 50-DhO-vanir-gapps...

Any ideas?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Targaeryan:
There was some problems with the 9 and 13 build I think.. It should be fine in the next build as I saw something about a fix that was merged recently..
[Nexus 7 Android Development] exeleon:
Does this Vanir support f2fs out of the box or did you convert the rom yourself?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] lambofgod13:
Gonna give this a try. Thx dev
[Nexus 7 Android Development] lambofgod13:
Wow, first lollipop rom ive been on that is this fast and smooth, amazing work.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rani2001:
convert f2fs

Hi. Great ROM, I really like it.

I would like to know how can I convert this rom with f2fs file system please ?

Thanks for your work
[Nexus 7 Android Development] puckshock:
I am currently using the 053115 nightly with cache and data F2FS just fine.

Edit: Wtf, apparently my n7 rebooted, bootlooped at the Google screen, and wiped itself? I was restoring apps and trying to install SuperSU but seems my n7 has a mind of its own. Trying ext4 now, hopefully my n7 doesn't do this again... Super weird.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] rani2001:
I had too many problems with F2FS I returned to ext4
[Nexus 7 Android Development] microMXL:
I'm using the Commotion build and it works pretty nice
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PinoDG:
Hi all

vanir is always alive on lollipop 5.1.1 for tilapia and grouper ... who opens a new thread updated?

New build nightlies http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/

Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thoiloidainhan:
^^^What pino said!!!! I was about to resurrect the thread :)

Im on latest dho build and its no doubt the best experience I have had since lp introduction.

http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Superfasty:
Is anyone else having apps constantly quitting on them in the latest 5.1.1 versions? I keep getting spammed with "Unfortunately, *app-name* has stopped" error messages. Google Play Services seems to be the most common one.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Superfasty:
Also installing this rom causes me to lose root... Anyone else? Or is this a standards Lollipop thing?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Zero Night:
What was your setup when you scored over 7000 on quadrant?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
stock setup with tinity i believe. ask jjlyons he's the one that got it. beat me by 83 points.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jewnersey:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

What's the best battery life people have seen. I used to get 7 hours screen on but now I can barely make 4
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
i find that really hard to believe. make sure you have maps installed and get a GPS lock otherwise it wont go into deep sleep. goo.im does not include maps for some reason.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Simpoh:
I have a bootloop problem and I'm not sure why, I installed the Wug's Nexus Root Kit, Fully wiped and unrooted/locked the device, then unlocked it again and re-rooted once more, and place your zip into my nexus 7. I booted my nexus 7 up in recovery and installed your ROM, but now it's like stuck in a boot loop, it's been showing "Vanir" with fire around it and it's been like this for the past 10 mins. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jewnersey:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

I have maps installed leave GPS off at all times. My WiFi never sleeps though... I have it set to never be on with screen off, but in battery stats its always running.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
screw tool kits. you should be using ADB on your computer. wayyyyyyyyyy better. also, when you reflashed everything did you remember to flash a 4.2 bootloader?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jjlyons:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

Not stock trinity setup. OC'd the CPU to 1700 and underclocked the GPU a step below the stock overclocking in trinity (sorry can't remember the number off the top of my head). Turned off fsync also, but I wouldn't really recommend that.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Simpoh:
When I go into bootloader it says version 4.13. How do I get it to 4.2?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] biglil1:
Thanks appreciate it. Been looking for the right rom if u will. Truly gonna flash this first after I root it again.:good:
[Nexus 7 Android Development] frap129:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

By that he means the boot loader for android 4.2, which is 4.13. Make sure that you do a factory reset before flashing it, you can always restore to a backup later.

NEXUS 7:

Unlock/Root

PRIME D

M-Kernel

PimpMyROM

Jays Buttery Tweaks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] !n0x:
I don't get what having Maps installed and getting a GPS lock has to do with deep sleep. Genuinely confused.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Le Goog wants to use your location to improve advertisements. Sound familiar? If you don't have any services installed that grab a lock your phone/tablet is like wtfbbq? And holds wake locks waiting for one. Google now is probably the biggest culprit. Might as well uninstall it if you don't use it. I'm told you get a boost in battery life
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamminjon82:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

Gnow is one of the first things to get removed in my device
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jewnersey:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

I'll try it out... Gnow is gone. Leaving GPS on and opening up maps

WiFi still being a *****... never had this problem. Ugh
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjcrj:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

Is there any way to keep the ring after removing gnow? The ring targets still work to open apps they just aren't visible.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] !n0x:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

Swiping up from navigation bar FCs System UI. Not sure if known.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] djkeller3:
Guys...not sure what happened, but my N7 won't reboot. All I get is just the Google screen and then goes dark (not totally black, there is a very low light, but looks black in daylight). Then nothing.

I'm running the version that came with Motley kernel. I had overclocked the high to 1.6, Interactive kernel, not getting a bootloop, so I'm thinking that probably has nothing to do with it.

I just flashed this ROM last night and this is the first time I've rebooted. I had a problem similar to this last year, and it seems like all I had to do was plug into a pc and reboot (was there more to it than I'm remembering, because that's not working either).

I am able to reboot into CWR, but when I try to reflash the ROM from the SD card, the SD content is not there. Tried mounting the card with no success. Any ideas? Nothing is working! :crying:

Edit:

Nevermind guys... I didn't realize CWR had everything in a subfolder. Reflashed, but darn that auto-wipe! Took a long time to get it set up the way I wanted!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] treIII:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

So I want to try this. I've been using clean rom inheritance. Battery life is so so with it. Do I want to flash do 13 or do 25? And which kernel do I want? I'm looking for battery life. And thanks

Edit: can someone tell me which gaps to use also.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dotnetnightmare:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

13 is an old rom. Flash 25. Go to goo.im and find gapps-jb-20121212 on the front page.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
I can't replicate this. did you add a custom target to the nav ring for an app you deleted? did you remove google now and not remove the custom nav ring option? this doesn't happen on vanir atom or prime.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D01-25 [ATOM v4 for N7][4.2.1]

I've been using bricked .58 as the kernel on this with on demand governor. I have the GPU over clocked to 520 but if you're looking for battery life I wouldn't recommend it. You will enjoy this ROM. No major thrills and frills but DAMN its fast and stable
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
no thrills and frills? you're kidding me right? i've added almost every feature in AOKP and CM that isn't superfluous or hokey like "high end graphics" which actually just reenables the stock behavior when it's turned on lol
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Release notes:

lots of bug fixes

lockscreen is g2g

color picker for lockscreen wallpaper should just default to custom wallpaper for now

i didn't get a chance to add the API for color chooser because there's a lot of other

features that use it and would have to be refactored and we were getting ready for a

stable milestone release.

LOTS of code cleanup

compiler tweaks

general stability and performance improvements

included vanir_inverted UI theme is still in beta but it's lookin good

faux u13 kernel (512 mhz gpu. please flash a different kernel if you can't handle it)

self-generating cron that will remake itself on boot if it gets deleted

a lot of other under the hood additions
[Nexus 7 Android Development] kptnk:
All right ! Thank you for the update PD :) ! I was heading to bed, but i guess i'll get myself a little nice flash before ;)

It is worse a clean one, or d'you think we could make it dirty ?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] treIII:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Installed this rom today and all i can say is wow. 3 hours screen on time now and battery is still at 88 percent. Outstanding. I'm under clocked but its still amazingly fast. Thank you.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

My bad prime, I didn't mean to make it sound bad at all. This is my favorite out of all the ROMs. What I mean is it just works.....period. I think this is the longest I've stayed with one rom
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jewnersey:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

I'm obviously doing something wrong, I can't touch that.. I'm going to clean install and see what happens
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
What apps do you install? One is probably holding a wake lock
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Check your battery usage I can almost guarantee its Google maps. If I don't disable location tracking maps uses more battery than android itself does
[Nexus 7 Android Development] !n0x:
http://i.imgur.com/aHUtCrJ.png

this be crazy. 1-25 release. Of course, there are no running processes,and it's off all the time. but this means, the ROM is just awesome.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] frap129:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Mind=Blown..... So much faster than the previous release and any other rom I've run. Even at stock 1.3 GHz. is battery life near the same as before?

NEXUS 7:

Unlock/Root

Prime D

M-Kernel

PimpMyROM

Jays Buttery Tweaks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Frap, are you currently using pimp and jays tweaks? No issues with them on latest release?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] frap129:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.1] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Not jays tweaks, i just forgot to edit that out, but i am using pimp. So far no issues other than being too awesome.:cool: if you use quadrant and get a low score, don't listen to it. Remember, benchmarks dont account for a butter overt load.

NEXUS 7:

Unlock/Root

Prime D

M-Kernel

PimpMyROM
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
I guess. Should be a little better maybe because of the bug fixes? Maybe? That's mostly what this build was. Its 4.2.2 btw
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jamminjon82:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Seriously best rom ever.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] djkeller3:
Re: [ROM] PRIME D02-03 Milestone 2 [4.2.2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

This ROM is positively SMOKING FAST, and quite possibly the smoothest ROM I have ever run. Absolutely superb work here. It has made my Nexus 7 a privilege to use!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Jaydizzle414:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Whats this benchmark like on antutu?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Enable GPU 2D drawing and over clock all the way. If you've got nothing else running you will get 6500+... As long as your chip can handle it. I haven't even tried changing anything else so you might be able to do better. Also there's a bug in this kernel where the max freq is only 1600 and not 1700 like it says so there may be room for improvement yet
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
I have never used it. Quadrant has been my standard since ICS
[Nexus 7 Android Development] johnnyman25:
is that with wifi on?which kernel u use?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] nickles96:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Hi all.

Wiped and flashed this with a 20121212 gapps.

No issues at all except camera FC on launch.

'Unfortunately Gallery has stopped'.

Something simple I'm sure. Anyone know ?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent SkyBlue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Try wiping data for gallery app
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Yusei:
yes, it's fast, but...i'm getting 4500 on quadrant
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

OK so my benchmarks have been suffering on this release, mainly in the I/O tests, it could be cause my storage is getting low, but here are my latest benches with trinity kernel CPU 1.7Ghz/GPU 600mhz, with deadline scheduler at 2048. But!!!!! Its just as fast while multi tasking, etc.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Yup LOL... I usually get 10k on I/O. Try switching to BFQ. Wayyy better than the others
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Ohhhhhh reallllyyy?? I was always under the impression that noop and deadline are best, ill try that now, do you turn fsync off?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bongostl:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

There is a typo in the description.should be 4.2.1 r1.2, no?

4.2.2 is not yet in aosp...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Either youre not set up right or your chip set cant handle the clock speed and you're getting thermal throttling. I get 15,000 cpu, 4000 mem, 10000 I/O, 1000 2D, and 2600 3D all +/- 500 or so. Tested and proven for 2 months on a steady incline. at least 10 runs per test build. Trust me i wouldn't have put the title as such if i didn't test the ever living **** out of it.

Not sure if i mentioned this but if you don't know how to set up for benchmarks don't complain about your score. The point of the thread title is to entice users to try something new.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
More or less the important repos in this rom are aosp/master branch which is actually farther upstream than whatever has been merged for the 4.2.2 branch. You are right though it said 4.2.1.2 earlier and i decided to move the brackets. I'm on my tablet and watching the super bowl so i must have missed it. Deep apologies.

Edit: put exact revision in title to reduce any confusion
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Yusei:
Do not get me wrong, I just value my nexus 7 had.

Like I said, it's fast, it's the best rom I've tested so far and will not change.

After some modifications i'm already taking the back of 5500 points.

Sorry if I offended you or to your work, I appreciate the fact that you can have this ROM on my N7.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjcrj:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Its not a kernel bug, it uses all 4 cores at 1600 but shows the max at 1700. All faux kernels do that. Just flashed the latest and CPU is stuck at max freq. Anyone else have this?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Its cool man I'm not offended. Try setting the I/O to BFQ and using 2D GPU drawing. That's all i do other than overclock
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Hmmm. I definitely don't understand the rational behind that. It just makes more sense to have max freq labeled 1600 if that's as high as it goes.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Triscuit:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Yes i was having this issue as well, I've been running trinity on this build so far, i might try a couple more tonight and see which works best with the new build.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjcrj:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

I think it has to do with gaming. Tricking non tegra optimized games to run smoother.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jewnersey:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Nothing abnormal, and everything was set to sync manually. I'm going to clean flash there new build and see what's up.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] waz675:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Maybe it can make 1700mhz on single (or two?) Core but limits at 1600mhz on all 4. That is something similar to what stock does I think on a HTC one x which is also a tegra 3 device. Might be a tegra3 quirk?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] tdizzle404:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Anyone notice the first 2 cores staying on?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] treIII:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] want 6500-7000+ in quadrant?

Antutu. I was getting the 7thousand quadrant scores earlier but now just below 6 thousand
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
the best place to look would be in Faux's thread. i really do not touch anything with the kernel stuff at all. i actualy use pre-built kernels downloaded directly from the people that compile them because i'm not a kernel developer and sadly vanir does not have a kernel dev for the N7. All i do is test and find the one i like the best with my device. it seems they run differently with each device
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
I don't use antutu because there's too many cheat exploits. I just downloaded it and got 16129. Not sure if this is even good because i never use it. whats good screen on time for a n7? My battery never gets down very low before i plug in and flash a new test build.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Jack Barrett:
Build is JOP40D not JOP40G. Why do you put 4.2.1_r1.2 in the title, when it's not?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] treIII:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

I'm a little confused. After installing this rom in about tablet it states that my kernel is motley v3+. Is this the correct kernel that comes with the rom? Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Yes it is. Sync vanir source and try to tell me it isn't lol. You will see 4.2.1_r1.2 stamped all over it. If you want to change the build number in about phone you can just edit your build.prop to say whatever you want. It means absolutely nothing. Thank you for pointing out that we forgot to do so though. Will fix immediately after work
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
You didn't install the latest version. I just redownloaded and flashed to check
[Nexus 7 Android Development] treIII:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

Then what is the latest? I have do 25

OK.just checked op it changed since yesterday. Right?

---------- Post added at 11:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 AM ----------

What is the latest? Atom maguro from Feb 4?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Yes sir. The latest is now D02-03 for N7 and ATOM V5 for toro/maguro
[Nexus 7 Android Development] treIII:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

Which kernel comes with the rom? I tried Franco 42 and had major issues with do 25. Thanks for reply also
[Nexus 7 Android Development] tdizzle404:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

Fauxs kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
Its the ultimate version with the GPU clocked to 512. Its always a good idea to keep a stable kernel on your sdcard just in case you need to revert a kernel that disslikes your phone/tablet
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bjcrj:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

New release is awesome PD! Thank you!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] spitfire2425:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

Gonna give it a try mostly cuz the title. Love top gear.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] PrimeDirective:
i about pissed my pants with the reliant robin episode. so funny
[Nexus 7 Android Development] spitfire2425:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

The show is the reason I want a vw bus... So I can have it pulled by a donkey.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ridearoundsolo:
Re: [ROM] [4.2.1_r1.2] PRIME D02-03 [Milestone 2] top gear tested: stig approved

This ROM is really impressive and is truly fast i will run it for a week to see how it holds up, as soon as it booted i noticed a speed difference over other roms so amazing job on this!