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[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Hereisphilly:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Thanks, I was initially on ondemand, so couldn't see all the options

Now evaluating what works best, ondemand or interactive

Currently running a combo of both gnex and stock n10, seems to be running great!

60000/0/65/1700/80000/20000
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] newellj79:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Holy shiZ! Please everyone stop asking about this. He has made it very clear that he MAY look into it. I'm sure you will no when and if he does. Constantly asking isn't going to speed things up, and its very simply annoying.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] squshy 7:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

-sigh- yup. As I warned Franco before, he's not going to stop hearing about it until someone finds a way. Please guys, let the man work.

That aside, did he release a fix to r4 that prevents the CPU from clocking down on touch events on ondemand when the CPU is already above the touch booster clock? I know it was brought to his attention but I can't remember if he fixed immediately or if it will be in r5.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] szale9001:
It is still an issue. I would assume the fix will be included in r5
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Its smooth right?? Ondemand was killing too much battery. You should change your hs_f something around1000-1200. 1700 will kill battery since it'll ramp up to 1700 when touched.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bigdog2k7:
I never make requests as I think that devs do enough for us as it is, however, this will be a first and a last. Franco, when charging the n10 via pogo cable and running a Lacie p9300 ssd via otg my tablet ceases to charge and just drains until the ssd is unplugged and I wait a few minutes for the charging to kick back in. This is confirmed by watching the battery level dwindle and battery monitor widget shows a significant draw even though the tablet shows that its charging. I think this may be some sort of "anti-double charging" preventative measure that Samsung took on this device. I wonder if this can be bypassed? The only reason I bought the otg was to charge and play 10gb worth of Roms I have and various 100's of mb of school related and work related documents while on the go. I saw that charge + otg support was added to the n7 via custom kernels, I wonder if this can be accomplished on the n10?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Hereisphilly:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Thanks for that, I was unsure about changing it, as hs_f was initially set at 1700. By setting it to 1200, I'm not limiting the processor to 1200 MHz am I?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Nope. It'll still ramp up to the max frequency of 1700 when needed. You can download apps such as CPUSpy or BetterBatteryStats to check what frequencies are being used often.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] styckx:
Want a good CPU monitor? Little known app but worth every dime...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5wZXJmbW9uIl0.

It's floating so you can launch it and it's there for everything from gaming, to browsing the net.. Invaluable little tool.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Hereisphilly:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Great, gonna try it now, let's hope its still super smooth!

Can anyone tell me what hs_f or any of the other parameters are actually responsible for?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
hs_f is short for highspeed_frequency and it says what speed to go to when the highspeed_load is reached. the above_highspeed parameter says how long there needs to be significant load while still running at the highspeed_frequency before the processor is allowed to go above the highspeed_frequency.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
What EniGmA1987 said and for the others, here is a brief explanation I grabbed from the good buddies in the GNex thread:

above hispeed delay = "once speed is set to hispeed_freq, wait for this long before bumping speed higher in response to continued high load"

go_hispeed_load = "when the CPU hits X% amount of load, then jump to the hispeed_freq."

min_sample time = "how long do I wait before lowering the clock speed from what it's currently at."

timer_rate = "wait this long before changing the clockspeeds from what it's at now."
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Also it tends to work out best if the above_highspeed_delay and min_sample_time are multiples of the timer rate.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] JupiterdroidXDA:
Jesus Franco this is some really good special sauce;)

My N10 is now totally lag free, many thanks dude;)

JD
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] pilayo:
Hi Francisco!!

First in gnexus and now in my n4 and n10....its great

I would like to know if this kernel has the modules ( usb_wwan.ko etc....) To be abke to use an USB dongle with pppwidget????

If don't are you planning to include them, would be great to have this feature

Thanks a lot
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I've sat and read this whole thread so I wouldn't make any dumb questions, looking to get rid of game lag and also add some smoothness improvements to this already awesome tablet. Gonna buy the paid app to contribute to the developer, and hopefully learn how to make adjustments to the kernel.

Update: quick question, I've always used setcpu on all my devices but now that I have the Franco paid app and kernel, should I disable setcpu and rely on the Franco app for governor scaling adjustments? I don't want the apps conflicting each other?

RoloRacer on my Paranoid Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Yes use Franco's app for your adjustments if you have it.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brGabriel:
If you're looking to reduce game lag you might be interested the this app (if you haven't already): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&highlight=seeder
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

thanks

No I haven't but thanks will definitely check it out tonight.

RoloRacer on my Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
^^^^^ *sigh*
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] ady_seray:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Yep...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] styckx:
Placebo
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] 404 ERROR:
Pretty sure it's not. Except you can achieve the same results raising the minimum CPU frequency. ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

So I got the kernel and set the governor at ondemand on the Franco app and haven't messed anything else or with the tablet, just had it on the couch while watching a movie and it rebooted itself, it hasn't ever done that but once on stock rom a day or two after I got it. Been running paranoid android for two weeks without a single hot reboot, except for just now. Don't know why but switched back to interactive and see what happens.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

r4 should default with Ondemand. I get reboots randomly but its a 4.2 watchdog issue. If you want Interactive, use r3 from his OP on XDA. I prefer Interactive but governor settings won't set on boot with r4 using the app.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Just his app or does Trickster MOD and SetCPU do this as well?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Not sure. I don't use Trickster or SetCPU.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] duarian:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Hope we get a release with the fixed touch boost soon :(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I have to say that I've gotten mayor improvement with this kernel when gaming. Just put it to the test with NFS-MW and got to say the frame rate drop while playing is gone! Even after constant race after race, which used to throttle like crazy , gotten really smooth playing. Best results while playing since I got the tablet. Extremely happy!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Good to hear bro!! Are you running Ondemand or Interactive?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I'm running it ondemand , set on boot , governor on boot, and that's it, I haven't messed with anything else yet.

RoloRacer on my Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] beeboss:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I have a bad feeling about long silence from Franco in this topic ..
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Everything seems to be all good with no issues. Unless everyone is providing a lot of feedback, there is not much to fix.

I'm satisfied with r3 using tunables experimented on the N7, N4, and GNex. The N10 is so fast that all the tunables I've tried are fast and smooth.

We will most likely see another nightly if there are patches to Govs, IO, etc.....
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I don't see the reason to worry, this thing is pretty solid, and he mentioned before that he was also trying to enjoy the tablet, not just develop on it. Hopefully he's working on the display gamma or color gamut fix to improve color saturation , or something . Either way love the kernel.

RoloRacer on my Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] springy:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

He has taken some time off now as his gf is around... Lol. Taken from the nexus 4 forum :)

Hopefully he will be around soon.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
I think Franco just posted like a week ago in here, so it hasnt been THAT long. But ya this tablet is not his primary dev deice as he said before. Personally I am very happy with the kernel as is and see very little room for improvement at this time. Obviously we all want color control but that isnt something you can just throw in and may or may not ever happen. Really the only thing I currently want is just a minor fix to the current build so that touchboost doesnt drop the speed if the current CPU is faster than the touchboost setting. But other than that I really dont see any problems with the kernel at all.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] aaron.bufc:
There a difference between asking a question and speaking the way you just did. Don't get me wrong, you have every right to ask about features...but every developer has a life outside of xda. Also, as mentioned before, this isn't the only device he concentrates on. I'm sure this project will be fully supported when he has the time or energy, but in the mean time... don't act like a child demanding things off people who work for your benefit, free of charge.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] freshlysqueezed:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

It's called a Donation, not payment for services.

Patrick G = pg_ice

He was already booted from KTmanta's thread.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] AztlanUnderground:
Agreed, that twelve years sissy's whining is getting annoying.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Randomwalker:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Did anyone pay for this kernel? Did you? If you did you got ripped off.

A donation is not payment for a service. If you purchased the app you did not pay for the kernel, but for the app.

Where exactly did he advertise color control?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] duarian:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I paid for the app and am personally disappointed. Its pretty much un-useable on the N10 currently because it locks up and lags profusely.

However I bought it as a donation for his work. The app is still young and I foresee great things from it. I do not regret buying it one bit.

His descriptions could be better for it because the way it is worded it sounds like there are more features available than there actually is. However I knew this going in so I could care less.

I've noticed that N10 users feel the need to bash and complain about devs if they don't get what they want and when they want it. Francis kernel is a beast and he was updating it almost daily, it has the best performance of any N10 kernel on only its fourth release.

Be patient, stop complaining and wait for Franco to update his free kernel on his own time. If you feel ripped off on his app. Well I've spent $5 on much worse things so I'm not really upset. To hell with color control, I'll take performance and stability over that any day.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I don't understand what you mean by lock up and lag, I don't have any of either of them, what setup and adjustments did you make?

Maybe there's something that can be done to improve your setup. :)

In general :

He never said anything about color control or gamma adjustments besides not being able make any adjustments as of now , so not sure why would anyone would assume this, the first post says very little for anyone to expect more than what they get . I paid for the app for two things, which are to me alone are worth the 5 bucks, auto download/flash kernel, and backup and restore kernel images specially after flashing roms and to contribute to the development .

My main reason for flashing this kernel was to resolve the thermal throttling while gaming and got to say the outcome was far better than expected, I can sit and play NFS MW and not get throttled at all.

I've seen lots of developers bounce out of xda from users being ungrateful and demanding things like they deserve something, I hope people start to realize that without the devs here and other forums we would be stuck using stock crap from manufacturers.

My 2 cents sorry! :)

RoloRacer on my Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Ed 115:
Hulu plus

Been using a bunch of kernels since I bought this guy in December and been loving franco's right now. But just wanted to ask if anyone else is having this problem. I'm getting an error streaming Hulu plus whenever I want to stream. I can navigate the app just fine, but when I click a video it gives me this unable to stream wv99 error of some sort.

Now, this happens on stock rom, kt manta aokp and official aokp rom; used ktmana kernel and stock kernel; used the default kernels on each respective rom, I've reinstalled the Franco app, reinstalled all roms, clean wiped, every single thing to wipe wipe wipe and this only happens on franco's kernel. I've tried r1 through r4 also.

What's weird is that on my nexus 4, Hulu works fine on Franco kernel no matter what combo I use.

Oh and I don't have any ad blockers on also.

Any suggestions?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] duarian:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I appreciate the concern. I'm only on stock settings though. I don't get crashed, the app itself is just sluggish when going in certain menus. Otherwise it works perfectly fine.

I personally hope Franco keeps developing his kernel for us. I can't stray away from it. No kernel is as smooth as this.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] robrob777:
I got high android OS battery drain with R4. going back to the original Cleanrom kernel solves the issue. 1.3 days vs 3. 5 days battery.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Do you game?? If not, try r3. r4 has high battery drains for me too. The Ondemand settings in r4 are for the stuttering/lagging when gaming.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] robrob777:
no gaming at all. just browsing. Battery drains fast on R4 when sleeping(wifi always on) . I tried for a few days now and changing the kernel is the only solution so far.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] duarian:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

If all I do is browse, I average 10 hours of screen time. Gaming cuts that in half. I only get about 5 if I do nothing but game.

Turning off the touch boost seems to help battery life. I notice no difference with it on either way.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
Try r3. I've had pretty good battery on this!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] duarian:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Patiently awaiting r5 :).
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] xblitzz:
you mean a miracle?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Fidelator:
He could have at least said he'd be dropping it, he's been posting regularly on the threads of the other devices he supports.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] crossen0:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

He bought his N10 to enjoy it, not for development. He'll get to this device later - its not his top priority.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] droidroidz:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

There is nothing stopping any of you complainers to pick right up where he left off.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Why can't people here on this forum get the idea that the developers don't owe us anything, they'll put out updates when they feel like it. All that does is get the developers upset and delay things even more.

And personally I don't have any issues with this kernel, so not worried.

RoloRacer on JellyBam Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
This :) Go grab the source and start modifying away!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] felipepx:
This kernel works on stock ROM? The Color Control of your franco.kernel updater now works on Nexus 10 using this kernel on stock ROM?

Updated :~~ kkkk
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] roloracer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

What???? Not sure what you meant but no, there's no color control yet.

RoloRacer on JellyBam Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] felipepx:
Damn spell check :/
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I'm shocked at how slow this thread moves compared to the n4 thread. I figured there was a ton of 10 owners out there.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] dust.:
Why are you shocked? There's nothing to report if the kernel isn't being updated anymore...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Only had the 10 for 2 days so not really up to speed on how often this is updated.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] dowenprs:
That is from Franco himself, just because it's slow doesn't mean it's not being updated. I'm a 100% positive France will continue to update this kernel, it's just not going at the speed some think is appropriate.

Some people just need to relax a bit.

Peace

Dan
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] springy:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Agree, he has just sorted out the colour in the nexus 4 and it is stable as hell. R71 is probably the milestone for the nexus 4. Let's hope he will move his development to the nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] styckx:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Nexus 10 forums (not just this thread) are about 3x slower than the Nexus 7. Nexus 10 is selling a lot but it is still $150-$250 more expensive than the Nexus 7. So while it is selling well it is still probably not moving anywhere close to the amount of volume the 7 is. 7 is a lose leader.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rockypr70:
Franco is working on kernel for us who also have the nexus 4 and he told a follower on his twitter this:

"Coming soon, had other priorities before adding some cool stuff to the N10 :) "

he reply that after some user told him that we miss him here at the nexus 10 forum.

So all we have left is to wait,but in the meanwhile i will keep tweaking my N4 with his kernel.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

I've noticed they aren't as active as the N4 threads are. I really like what I'm running on it now, but I can't wait to see what Franco does with the 10's kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] styckx:
Tablets are just a different ball game. I used to own a Galaxy Tab 10.1. Bought it when it was released and kept it up to a month ago. That was a $500 retail tablet when it was new also. That forum was always rather slow too compared to the Nexus S forums (back when the phone was still hot property). It might just have to do with buzzwords. The general untechy population knows about rooting phones because of the buzz generated with jailbreaking iphones.. Those same people probably don't even connect the dots to tablets..
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

If only they knew what they were missing...

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] SpecRek9:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL] franco.Kernel - r4

Hi mates does anyone has the stock kernel for this device? Thanks
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] wera750:
From what I have read the cpu doesn't have a temp sensor and uses an algorithm instead to report temps , and it sucks. Raising the thermal threshold to over 100 °C seems to work well..... But I'm sure you will catch all that in due time.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] 404 ERROR:
At least one person has reported that his device started to glitch up and then reboot from raising it to 100 degrees. I'm sure there is a limit.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] wera750:
Mine ran fine like that playing NFSWM
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
I raised my limit to 90C, and NFS:MW's graphics glitched out eventually. I rebooted on my own.

Speaking of temperature, my device seemed notably hot (maybe hotter then average) when I played some NFS:MW with this kernel. It could just be me mis-interpreting it though.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] freshlysqueezed:
” Samsung hits 4W by throttling its CPU cores when both the CPU and GPU subsystems are being taxed.”

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6536/arm-vs-x86-the-real-showdown/13

My theory is that the exynos 5250 CPU does have a temperature sensor, but the nexus 10 is throttling not in direct response to temperature but instead to limit TDP to 4 watts for energy efficiency.

Just my 2 cents.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thanks for all the infos. I'll take a look into the thermal throttle driver, maybe theres room for improvement without hacky raisings to high temperature thresholds.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] ceribaen:
Another issue is the colour calibration is way off. Would be nice if we could tweak colours ourselves as we can on the GNex now.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I looked into the screen driver, did some debugging and I wasn't particularly successful in changing the screen colours. I need more time.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
The kernel works on all custom roms as far as i know after using Franco's rom for a while. Franco just wanted to emphasize that it works on CM based roms as well.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] wera750:
Disregard, it booted fine the third time.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _chanstar_:
That's not what I've heard lol. Good to finally see you supporting the N10 bro!!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] monkfish_lad:
And so it begins.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The thermal driver is pretty straight forward and simple. What exactly do we need? I haven't been able to reproduce any throttling so far on my device. Is it throttling too soon? When it throttles it decreases the CPU frequencies too much and causes lag? Does it take time to detect the actual temperature?

The more info the better, as soon as I understand whats up I'll fix it.