yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] jyams:
Here are the Quadrant / Antutu comparisons. Clearly, the v812 is the winner, and it performs like it! It's gotta be the Retina screen killing the performance. I wonder if there is a way to set the screen down to an IPS-type screen with a 1024 x 768 resolution? Gonna check around. I would be willing to sacrifice something visually to get better performance. So that begs the question as to why I got the Retina screen. Because I wanted the visual experience LOL. I really never considered it to be a problem until I got the v812 and noticed the distinct difference in performance. It's too much to ignore.

Oh well.
[Android General] minerva1961:
Thanks for that, makes interesting (but depressing) reading. I've no idea how to change the screen density but will google it, if I can get the density down then it would be interesting to run the benchmark test again.. I did find this interesting re: screen, seems it really is as good as the iPad

blog.mcbub.com/index.php/all-tablet-pc/onda/onda-v972-quad-core-tablet-pc-vs-apple-ipad-4/
[Android General] samtheman:
Love the tablet but not having any luck using a wired XBOX 360 controller. Has anyone managed to get it working?

It works fine with my HTC One x. I've tried the advice here: http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/how-to-use-xbox-controllers-on-your-android-device.882265/

and installed USB/BT joycenter all to no avail (joycenter doesnt see the usb device at all)

Any advice would be most welcome :)
[Android General] ankar84:
Enabling USB host API

Try this:

In folder /system/etc/permissions/ create file name android.hardware.usb.host.xml with content:

<permissions>

<feature name="android.hardware.usb.host"/>

</permissions>

Then you need to find file name tablet_core_hardware.xml and add in <permissions> section <feature name="android.hardware.usb.host"/>

And then reboot.

By default, USB host API is turned off, and that workround fix it.
[Android General] samtheman:
MUch apreciated. I tried the steps you outlined but with no success. Excuse my newbeishness but I assume I create an .xml file using notepad and only include the exact content you posted?

Thanks for all your help
[Android General] cau96176:
Just about to install Ployer's MOMO19HD firmware on my Onda V972 - wonder if it'll have the same no-touch screen issues.

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Yip - it must also use different touch screen drivers for it.

Is there a way to get the driver out of Onda's IMG file and replace it in Ployer's IMG then flash with Phoenix Tool?
[Android General] fbartosz:
hi at the beginning i would like to apologize for my english

I got big problem when i instal supernova 2.0 3.0 or 3.1 i have got this problem with sleep mode after it go to sleep mode I cant turn it back i have to restart my onda what can i do to fix it i read on other forums about this problem I instal Auto Aeroplane Mode by DON but it dos not help at all :( PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN :(
[Android General] jyams:
Did you do a clean wipe and install or install over existing version? If so, that could be your problem. Follow this procedure for installing SuperNova3.1:

1)Place Supernova 3.1 WITHOUT unzipping it,so zipped, in a folder in the extern sdcard.

2)Enter at CWM,there go to Mounts and Storage and "format" System , Data, Cache, and Sdcard

3)Then *****Go back****: Wipe data/factory reset, Wipe cache partition and in Advanced section: Wipe Dalvik cache.

4)*****Go back**** and " Install zip from sdcard", and " choose zip from external sdcard", find the folder where supernova 3.1 Rom was placed.

5)When the "Setup is finished": *****Go back***** Reboot system now.

6)Done
[Android General] fbartosz:
I have done everything like you said and Still the same after tablet go to sleep mode it turn off itself :( any other ideas ??

its working fine with Kasty Onda v972 41 v135 roote from here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37844303&postcount=180 but I instal it by PhoenixSuit that why probably its working fine
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Thanks! Installed & succeeded! However now my tab just reboots in CWM!! SOS!!

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I installed CWM using Arc Tools and now all I m able to do is to reboot in CWM.

I m a novice...........Help is needed Urgently!!

Thanks in advance!!
[Android General] Diomorgan:
R: Onda V972 Allwinner A31 Quad Core 9.7inch Retina IPS Screen Dual Camera Tablet PC

Ouch, supernova 3.1 doesn't allo me to sue "Fake GPS position" apps :(((
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
I upgraded to 1.35 stock ROM. Installed Superuser and CWM from ArcTools.

Now the tab boots into recovery. I m not able to mount sdcard & bootloader.

Rebooting only ends up in CWM.

SOS............help needed urgently!!:crying:
[Android General] vel0city:
Is your tablet the 32gb version? Cause I heard somewhere that the 32gb has problems with CWM, not sure it is true or not. But to fix your problem just use PhoenixSuite and reflash the stock firmware with format. That should fix it.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Thnkz!!Yeah its 32 Gb version!!!

However, the Phoenix suite shows no device connected!!!

Lastly its stuck up at 4-core logo for the past half an hour or so!!!

Is it bricked forever??
[Android General] vel0city:
Even though it said device I think you can still go through with the Flash of the stock firmware. If you read around either this forum or on slatedroud someone was in the same situation as you and it work. Try flashing with the kasty 1.35 rom instead of stock.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Thnkz Velocity........ its still stuck up at the 4-core logo instead.

I did cum across a similar post fortunately he could get the device detected & connected with Phoenix.

Phoenix still showing no device detected though detected by the laptop!

I m on Win 7 Ultimate 64bits!!

Kindly guide & help!!!
[Android General] fiddlinghamster:
Your device is fine, just corrupted. I had just about all the issues mentioned on this thread, and my tablet is now running fine with sock 1.35. this is what did.

1. Fresh download stock 1.21,1.32,1.33,1.35

2. Without phoenix running connect tablet to pc, hold power button for at least 10secs, you will hear it turn off with Usb disconnection sound. Now unplug device.

3. Run phoenix and load stock 1.21 image ready to flash.

4. Press and hold the home key of tablet, whilst home key still depressed plug tablet into Usb on pc. Do not release home key.

5. Still with home key depressed tap the power key repeatedly(in my experience 7-8times) you will hear the Usb connection sound and phoenix will now auto upgrade your tablet. When asked choose "format"

6. When upgrade complete boot your tablet. When initial set up done turn off tablet.

7. Repeat steps 3-6 working your way up the firmware releases.

8. When you get to 1.35 you can then perform the various mods such as screen density, permissions etc.. found on the forum.

Hope this helps,
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Thnkz fiddlinghamster!!

Would try & revert.....hopefully UR words cum true!!
[Android General] skippie17700:
Yes, this worked also on my 32gb Onda. 1.21 - 1.32 then stock 1.35 and after that I can install all except supernova which uses cwm and this doesn't work on my 32gb Onda.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
:(Still no luck.........the device isn't triggering anything. Reinstalled Phoenix yet doesn't show up.........!

Plz Help!!!
[Android General] fiddlinghamster:
NO!!!! Do not install supernova if you have 32gb version. CWM is not compatible at present with 32gb. We are all hoping a kind dev will fix this.

How ever you can still go ahead and tweak stock 1.35 to make it run a little better.

The changes I have made are as follows

1. Install supersu, romtoolbox and removed all the rubbish Chinese apps.

2. Install apex launcher, and disabled stock launcher which is total rubbish and always crashing.

3. Install dolphin browser and disable stock browser.

4. Mod the permissions.xml to allow apps to access and save to extsd

5. Mod build.prop to change dpi, model etc.

I am currently looking to install the Sony bravia engine but not got that going yet.

If anyone had any other suggestions I would be glad to hear them..

Mike.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Hi Skippy......... U r fortunate!

My computer doesn't recognize the tab anymore. It doesn't show any tab connected with USB.

Please guide!!

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[Android General] jyams:
I have ignored the first step in Phoenix where you wait for it to recognize the tablet and proceeded to the next step.

Many people think their tablet is turned off because the screen is blank, yet it is still powered up

. Hold the power button for a long count of 10 just to sure it is powered off before you begin the phoenix process. Ignore the "detection" step at the very beginning of the phoenix process. Just start the Phoenix program, find your image you want to flash, then while holding the "home" button on your tablet, plug in the usb cable and tap the power button on the tablet multiple times. Your laptop may need to load the drivers again or the flash window may popup immediately, but it should "see" your tablet and allow you to flash the image. I thought many times my tablet was bricked only to find that it wasn't really powered off. I've also learned to ignore the "detect" step at the very beginning of the Phoenix program and proceed to flashing. I find that this works for me.
[Android General] fiddlinghamster:
In second that, I have never used the detect device section on home screen of Phoenix, just go straight ahead to the flash page(picture of anchor)

Load the image you want to flash, do the home key /power key dance and all will be well....
[Android General] minerva1961:
FIO.

New custom ROM

*** Canary Rom v1.0 by Nuazet **

CHANGELOG:

- Based on version 1.35

- Deodex (detoxed)

- Zipaling (zip-aligned)

- Kernel stock

- Root (@ Chainfire)

- Performance Tweaks

- Tweaks to speed and stability data

- Tweaks ed energy saving

- Improved sound Sony xLOUD & Clearbass

- Removed Chinese applications

- Serial Launcher (much improved) and Nova launcher

- Tion Boot amin new (@ D ysgenic)

- Arrangements est ethical (very few, for now ...)

- White icons (@ samantha conner) play free store

- Skin Clock (uzip of aden nisxxx @ xxx) XDA developers forum

From here for us Muggles who don't speak Spanish;

http://translate.googleusercontent....572100&usg=ALkJrhjWKPg8EpjQW7J3tHJluG6HNRZnmA
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Update on Tablet

Sorry I have been way for a long time guys. I know there requests and questions that I still need to answer, please know that I'm not ignoring anyone, I have gotten busy on life. Anyway, As many of you know my tablet has been down due to my butter fingering. I wasnt able to solder the usb back to the board, as my soldering sucks, but was able to get it over to a friend of mine who could. He however discovered that the actual usb port itself is broken. So with that said, I will need to get another one (have NO clue where I would get them from) and take it back. If someone who is an extreme hardware nut could point me in the right direction or just send me one that would be great. Also, while my tablet is taking an extended break, I will be working on the forum trying to get it cleaned up. Will try and get a summary created and everything else. Anyway, glad to see everyone is still active on this side and keep any all tips coming in. You guys take care and I hope to be back in there soon with ya. Later.
[Android General] msav:
I do not know what the mount and pinout looks like, But if you search "micro usb port" on e b a y you can see dozens of different types. perhaps you can identify it from the photos.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Thanks msav
[Android General] aaronm13:
That sucks Dvalin, really hope you get it sorted. I think I might be doing the same as my port is slightly warped or something as I have to position the cable at a weird angle to get things charging, seems like the port is stretched and doesn't make full contact until I twist the cable.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Seems like this might be a starting trend. Possibly everyone might to start looking to have this port replace.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Compatible CWM for V972 - 32 Gb version

Any news abut development of compatible CWM for 32 GB version of V 972.

I really had my heart out yesterday thinking that I jinxed my tab installing CWM the Arctools way. :(

Anyway thanks for the guys out there on the forum!!
[Android General] skippie17700:
I,m on 1.35 custom rom on onda v972 32gb.

I got virgin UK.

Any idea why I can,t connect with WPA2 but I can with WEP which is at slower speed?
[Android General] fiddlinghamster:
Which custom Rom you using?
[Android General] minerva1961:
I'm on Virgin UK too, it won't be them, it will more likely be your router, mines a Netgear and never gives any probs...
[Android General] skippie17700:
Kasty Onda 1.35 and Minerva: I got the netgear router too so what's the difference then?
[Android General] msav:
Looks like Onda has a version 2 hardware either coming out or out already

wonder if they fixed the hardware to make it more reliable.

The firmware on onda website now states that it is for v1
[Android General] minerva1961:
>I got the netgear router too so what's the difference then?

I've played with every single ROM on here and not once had a problem connecting to my router using WPA2-PSK and my iPhone, Blackberry Playbook and a host of other gadgets all 'just connect', I'd guess your router is set up slightly incorrectly....
[Android General] skippie17700:
Must be but what do I need to change? I sent you a mail.
[Android General] Diomorgan:
R: Onda V972 Allwinner A31 Quad Core 9.7inch Retina IPS Screen Dual Camera Tablet PC

mmmmm, V2, no hopes to send tablet back to get V2
[Android General] Dvalin21:
I hope its better, but currently waiting for Mcbub.com to get back to me on warranty.
[Android General] msav:
I wish you luck. i was having daily emails with them every day until they shipped me mine. when i asked about the problems with mine , I never got a response, i had to file a dispute via paypal to get a email from them. they then said I had to send it back on my dime traceable shipping only. . ($42)

I decided to fix the issues myself and keep it.
[Android General] skippie17700:
I fixed my connection yesterday. Couldn't connect with WPA and found out that WPS wasn't enabled in the router. I enabled and synchronized and I could connect straight away.

Even if there are things that don't work (yet) I think this Onda has got a lot of potential and I'm glad I bought it.
[Android General] diquan2001:
Best ROM ??

So i was wondering .what ROM do you guys think is running the best on you V972/?

Im currently running the Supernova 3.0 it is running smooth for me .

But are there anymore ROMS that i could try ??
[Android General] jyams:
Running SuperNova 3.1. Did a squeaky clean install per recommendation. It runs great. BUT, IMO the A31 engineering just doesn't handle the retina high resolution screen very well. I have grown weary of the slow performance, especially after I received my v812 and noticed a huge difference in performance due to it's 1024 x 768 screen and better battery life. I've gotten to the point where I won't even use my v972 anymore due to the difference in performance. The v812 just flies around with Supernova. No lags or delays. I'm putting my v972 on ebay this weekend and getting something with the new RK3188 processor, like the Pipo Max8 Pro. I'm also going to steer away from the Retina displays for now as these quad core processors just can't handle the power it takes to perform yet. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the retina display on the v972, but I need more efficient performance and am willing to sacrifice on visual for performance. My wife has the ipad 4 and the retina display is nice. IOS works smooth and it's not super fast, but consistently efficient. JB 4.1 with the quad core / retina display just isn't ready for prime time yet IMO.

Regarding Supernova 3.1, it is the best IMO. There's only 4 roms that I know of: Stock, Kasty-onda, Supervnova, and Canary (just rolled out last weekend). I've tried them all and Supernova is the best. BUT, be sure to follow the recommended installation instruction by formatting and wiping EVERYTHING on your tablet and then flashing via CWM via an SD Ext card. That's the best install guaranteed to give you the most pleasing experience with the rom. Steve Mars has done a great job incorporating all the modifications in the rom, including many in the build.prop that were recommended by others.
[Android General] minerva1961:
I pretty much concur, I'm running the Canary ROM at the moment and Antutu benchmark is about 11,000 but really for a

quad core processor one would have expected a higher rating, I think the retina display is partly to blame but also the

engineering from Onda, there's a feeling like it's not quite matured yet. Watching HQ vid

is

quite wow but day to

day it just needs to be a little snappier.
[Android General] Diomorgan:
I think that we all are waiting for an A31 firmware optimization for retina that "should" come, maybe not that soon...

I wonder why if I can play Real Racing 3 so good (very smooth!) , why should browser and launcher freeze sometimes?

A31 is very new and we must wait.

If you are looking for atablet that is able to use 100% of his hardware today you should go for an Rk3066 with 1GB ram.This chip has tons of custom roms for every device and, as some benchmarks even shows it's not SO slow compared to A31 at the moment.

But at the same time I think that there are peoples like me that was looking just for a retina tablet, and at the moment V972 is the only solution. :(

I'm fine with Supernova 3.1, even if Fake GPS app doesn't works and in 3.0 did.

I'm not into ROM coooking, but in 3.1 there is "GPS" voice in system setting, so it could be something related the build.prop tablet model.

I'll check it later.

What are differences betwen Supernova 3.1 and Canary?

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Actually, a quad MTK with 1/2GB of ram and 720p display of all those new phones like UMI X2 and ZOPO (I know, it's a phone/tablet comparison, maybe it's not the same like tablet/tablet) scores around 12,000, so 11,000 with a 150% resolution is not that bad :)

Am I wrong?
[Android General] yrag:
v972 performance

Am running 1.35 firmware, setcpu 1152 max, 360 min, nova launcher, regularly get antutu score of 11400. Doesn't hardly ever hang, websurfing is quite fast, have no real complaints other than battery life.
[Android General] TabletTinker:
V972 Display Resolution Reduction

Maybe a "normal" display mode with 1600×1200 instead of 2048×1536 could improve performance. The ARCHOS 97 Titanium HD apparently has such a feature, see arctablet.com/blog/featured/archos-97-titanium-hd-quick-review-part-2-performance-comparing-onda-v972
[Android General] Diomorgan:
It's not the only one, there should be even a PIPO with dual resolution.
[Android General] jyams:
I looked all over in "settings" for a different / lower resolution but couldn't find anything. It could probably be done with a firmware upgrade. Onda, I suggest you do this. There is a reason these other manufacturers are doing this. I firmly believe my v812 at 1024 x 756 is at least 3 times faster in every task. Absolutely no lag anywhere and a pleasure to use as it sails through apps, settings, browsing, and every task I throw at it. Even book pages in my Kindle app turn smoother. It has to be the retina zapping all the resources.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Can you give all the setcpu settings?

Thanks!!:good:
[Android General] ankar84:
Add Canary Rom v1.0 by Nuazet and Lost World 1.2 ROM to Updated List of ROMs.
[Android General] lambstone:
You guys are comparing apples with oranges. The Archos 97 Titanium HD uses a RK3066. All RK3066 retina tablets have the SD and HD mode. I believe it's a kernel feature.
[Android General] yrag:
setcpu 1152 max, 360 min, governor-performance, scheduler-deadline.
[Android General] aryanitinkumar:
Thankz Yrag!!:good:
[Android General] Tabinhu:
Hello guys.

Im looking to buy a chinese tablet at around 250$ or less.

Is the Onda V972 the best option out there?

And is it good for gaming?
[Android General] diquan2001:
IMDB

Hi guys ,

Does anyone else have problems with using the IMDB app.

When i start it up it loads and after a few seconds it just stops and closes.

I tryed to install it again but the problem stays .

anyone have idea's ??

Im running the supernova 3.1 on 1.35 firmware.
[Android General] skippie17700:
I just tried with 1.35 custom (kasty) and runs smoothly. Looking at pics,doing searches. No problems
[Android General] jyams:
I'm about to put my v972 on ebay. It's perfect! However, I would like to check out the RK3188 chip tablet coming out. Let me know if you are interested. I also have an Onda V812 which I cherish. Both tablets are excellent in their design. Of course the v972 is a retina display whereas the v812 is 1024x768. I've had the v972 for about one month. I recommend it. I researched for weeks before deciding on the Onda.
[Android General] Tabinhu:
But which is better for gaming?

RK3188 or the A31?
[Android General] jyams:
I'm not a gamer but from what I read both are good. IMO the firmware has not caught up with the power of the CPU / GPU. For either of these new chips, for their computing power and their power consumption to be maximized, better firmware has to be developed to see the difference they can make. Again, IMO most users don't need the power anyway. If one of these Chinese companies could develop a killer firmware for their device that takes advantage of the quad core processors they probably couldn't make enough tablets for consumers. I could probably get by very well with a rk3066 tablet for most things, but you know, more is better LOL! Hey, it's a hobby. Technology is fun. rk3066 devices sold 20,000,000 in China / world last year and the forecast is 50,000,000 for this year. A huge consumer is Brazil. rk3188 has $$ signs all over it as tech savy consumers all over the world are anxious to get it. One amazing thing to me is the growth of the "stick" mini pc market for android. This has been a huge rk3066 market for China, and this technology will move to the rk3188 quickly. Android 5 comes out this year and the rumor is that google is targeting the enterprise market and will crossover to laptops with the 5.0 AOS (Key Lime Pie?). It will compete with windows 8 I guess across all devices.
[Android General] Tabinhu:
I have a MK808, a RK3066 powered stick.

But which should have more processing power?

According to antutu the RK3188 gets around 18k points.

But it uses the old Mali400 :/
[Android General] jyams:
Many forum posters say that antutu isn't a good benchmark. Who knows? But, by just mear published specs it would seem that the rk3188 rated at 1.6ghz would be more powerful than A31 rated at 1.0 ghz. Both use quad core GPU. Again, it's all firmware dependent anyway and it sounds like no firmware is yet mature enough to take advantage of either CPU. One thing I do know, the retina display at 2048x1536 on an A31 zaps the processing power and is very sluggish. The same specs on a 1024x768 display performs many times better. I know because I have the v972 and the v812 and the v812 is much faster and smoother. You would think the A31 is powerful enough, but I guess the firmware isn't mature enough to push the true power out to all those pixels. What do I know?
[Android General] Tabinhu:
So what A31 powered tablet do you recommend?
[Android General] jyams:
So many choices. I like the quality build of my Onda v972, but would wait for the new version, the V973. Have read really good reviews of the rk3188 Pipo M9, the first rk3188 to hit the market. They also already have a firmware upgrade. You want to buy my V972?
[Android General] Tabinhu:
I cant buy anything out of the EU zone sorry.

Costums would charge me at least 100€

Portuguese costums are going crazy at this moment