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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Hm, I don't know. I don't think he'd fit the role.

Plus it would just confuse the hell out of everyone. He was already in Torchwood (Children of Earth)... And in Doctor Who (Fires of Pompeii). It'd be a bit weird.

Not that it has never happened before. Some have played several different roles in the show. Mark Gatiss, for one.(Did you hear he's going to be in GoT? There goes my 'the cast is lame' excuse for not watching it, out the window...) But it has not, to my knowledge, happened before that the main character is played by an actor who already did a secondary role in the show. :confused:

Still, I have heard other alternatives which would fit just as little. Or too much, in which case poor Moffat, he has enough trouble keeping his shows apart as it is from time to time. (And he's not making it easier on himself, with the constant Easter Eggs and references...)

I recently read a comic of that.
[Off-topic] delsus:
The thing is there is nothing that says the Doctor can't be a woman it's never been mentioned that after regeneration a time lord remains the same gender each time.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
In fact it has been mentioned outright that they can change gender easily. So outside of pissing off a massive fanbase, there's nothing stopping them from doing a genderswap.
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The new Doctor Who episode will be 5 days after my birthday! I'll be 14. Gonna be epic!

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^^this. I would love to watch the episode without knowing who it was going to be.

Btw, someone needs to make a sherlock thread if there isn't one yet :D

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Me to. I always scramble to zap away from the "Next time" preview, I hate those.

I thought there was one, but I can't be sure nor bothered to go look for it :p

Not much Moffat could do about that particular spoiler, though. Even if you didn't read the books (shame on you if you didn't!), you could see it coming three episodes earlier. But they should have left the last few seconds of S2e3 out; A cliffhanger doesn't work if you give away the plot twist immediately afterwards... :rolleyes:
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I like next time previews. It makes me look forward to the next episode.

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
They always give away too much of the plot, though. In the words of River Song: "Spoilers!" ;)
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It'd be kinda cool if the new Doctor was Chinese...

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Just for the heck of it, and to stick a finger to the recent bout of illegals-paranoia from the government, absolutely. :laugh:
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Especially a super fit, skinny, acrobatic Chinese Doctor! Imagine it... "I hate this Japanese crap!" *rips out Dalek's circuitry* "China FTW!" *sticks Chinese PCB in"

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[Off-topic] Quinny899:
Daleks: Made by Foxconn
[Off-topic] delsus:
Apparently only 10 people know who the 12th doctor is.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Amy and Rory = Best companions ever. They were the only two that I was ever honestly sad to see go.
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They were good but they were on so long that I was glad they left tbh
[Off-topic] boborone:
Sad thing is, here in murica, we don't get those shows until a month later, sometimes a season later, than they are released there. And then they have 20 mins cut out to air commercials. Think about that, 1/3 of the show is cut, just so they can add commercials to it. It's why I tend not to watch BBC America and douchebag download the stuff. But yea, our is bad on network TV. Meaning the major networks. But you get shows like Breaking Bad, Weeds, Dexter, The Shield, The Sopranos, and many more on other smaller networks.

And not sure you can call Merlin, Robin Hood, and Sherlock original content. That's just revamped oooolllld stories.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Weeds and dexter are brilliant. The new Sherlock from here offers a very nice twist on the old stories and is well done.

Now, the sopranos...... Hmmmmmm, watched every single episode religiously and come the final series. Was his wife gonna grass him up, was he gonna have a heart attack, were the feds gonna finally get him was he going to sleep with the psychiatrist ........... That final episode was suxh an anti climax to years of telly watching, I'm still not sure if i got trolled or not

Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.

Albert Einstein
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:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Ok, on topic

River song is excellent character

Best episode, Neil gaimans the doctors bride

Best doctor, hmmmmm tough one because I've seen them all. Let me think.

Best sidekick.... K9

Q:if memory serves we've only got one doctor left to come, who would you like to see?

Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.

Albert Einstein
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I hope Dr. Who ends soon.
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Rowan Atkinson should be the next doctor.

No.
[Off-topic] pissat4motion:
Favorite Doctor = David Tenant

Favorite Companion = Donna Noble

I remember Doctor Who from PBS when it was one of four channels on TV ..lol
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Trolling attempt?
[Off-topic] pissat4motion:
The Doctor got a reboot on rejuvenation in the eps where River Song "saved" him. An interesting slight of hand to make sure there will be Doctors for generations to come :)
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FTFY

And awesome :D
[Off-topic] veeman:
Dr. How? :confused:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Losing your touch veeman? :rolleyes:

Looks like it from where I'm sitting

Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.

Albert Einstein
[Off-topic] veeman:
I'm hungry. :p
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Go troll a bacon thread then. Or you could try the sausage thread again

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
No. It's just been on too long.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Maybe it's survived so long because great stories with great characters are timeless.
[Off-topic] boborone:
I just can't get past the production value of the show. It reminds me of saturday afternoon kid shows with horrible special effects and cheesy acting to even get into the show for the story and plot.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
GTFO :P

You've got to be kidding me? That season would have been so much better without "thick as two short planks" Donna.

I thought it would be hard to find a companion denser than "duh Martha" but they managed it by scraping the bucket of the Catherine Tate show.

That's one of it's endearing features, with a shoestring budget the Beeb was able to produce a program which would enthral families and send kids scurrying behind sofa's for safety.

Add modern special effects and you ruin it.
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Soon, we all will :p

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Y'know what I'd like to see just for fun? One or two episodes with Jackie Chan as The Doctor. :laugh:

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So, here we go..

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Blimey, the bookies were right... :eek: It IS Peter Capaldi :eek:
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:p:p:p

I don't even know who this guy is. Lol :D

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
He played Caecilius in S4e2: Fires of Pompeii.
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
I liked that episode, don't know why, I just did.
[Off-topic] delsus:
Lol people are complaining Peter Capaldi is too old William Hartnell says Hi.
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Yeah, all the new ones are young though.. Whatever, we'll see the first glimpse of how well he does in a few months :)

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I quite like that they've cast someone older. It's not hollywood, the show doesn't need to rely on the 'dashing good looks' of the main actor to draw its viewers.

And let's face it, as great as they did, Tennant and Smith were for a large part there for the fangirls.(and fanboys.) (terrying people, fangirls...)
[Off-topic] benrees21:
Just who I wanted to get it! Fantastic. Doc 12 will be phenomenal!
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Just booked my ticket to 50th anniversary special! Can't wait!!1!11 :eek:

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[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Thanks [MENTION=1763460]DirkGently[/MENTION] for pointing out this thread to me :):thumbup:

I must admit when they first announced Capaldi I was a bit shocked and kind of disappointed.

But having watched him in The thick of it im actually now looking forward to seeing what he does :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCC4-gYpnc4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I think to shake up the series which is the best thing about it is that it keeps evolving with each regeneration and instead of another young doctor now is the right time for an older one.

I hope they keep the 11th Doctors theme music as that will be hard to top.

My favourite version of it is still from the 11th hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUMEzUMcu64&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
It appears this thread needs to regenerate :rolleyes::cool:

Soo damn quite.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Everyone is just waiting for the first episode of the new series, then this thread will be alive with theories, chitchat, opinions etc.........

"Don't be so humble - you are not that great."

- Golda Meir (1898-1978)
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Lol. Fair enough. But I thought they will be doing all this right now what with this mini episode released just last week which was quite a major mini considering what it shows ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Not to mention this new mysterious Doctor played by John Hurt that will appear in the 50th anniversary special.

So much to discuss.. :confused:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
The John Hurt doctor was discussed at the end of the the last series, I've still yet to watch the mini episode. Just been too busy

"Don't be so humble - you are not that great."

- Golda Meir (1898-1978)
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
:eek: You haven't seen it yet!

Busy watching American Beauty again:D:p

Watch it M8. Only 6 minutes ;)

@ Anyone else that aint watched it. Make sure you do before the special this Saturday.
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Today is the day!!!11 :eek::eek:

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[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
+1

:):thumbup:

Can't wait:D
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
me neither , but unfortunately i'll be watching only tomorrow as the 50th episode is not broadcasting in my country :(
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Just Download it straight after :D:p

Shouldnt take that long after it airs. ;)
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
Well I found a brilliant solution :D

I'm looking live at BBC one when it'll be on air at 19:50 :p

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[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
:p

Good. :D
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
i know , prepare the popcorn , i'm coming :D
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
No! Tell Alfred to get the beers and pizza ready. Im visiting the cave!

:D

Make Sure you watch this first bro if u haven't already..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
too late as he already took his day off for seeing the special episode :rolleyes:

when you come at batcave drop by at domino's pizza and get a carnivora with few tuborg beers :D

ok i'll watch it now , thanks :cyclops:
[Off-topic] delsus:
Less than 1hr until the 50th airs and I'm stuck at work :( :( :(
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My sister is watching it now. I am going to a later showing though so I'll be watching it in a couple of hours

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[Off-topic] DowntownJeffBrown:
It's time

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[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Doctor Who snacks. Didn't have time to colour the tardis cause show started
[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Silence will fall when the new Doctor who is here...
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
WARNING: Get out if you can't handle spoilers.

You're going to have to wait for christmas for Capaldi to show up, he has only 3 seconds in this.

This is aby far the best episode I've seen of the new series. That, was, awesome.

Also, SEASON 3 TRAILER. KNEW THEY'D DO THAT! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D (It was just to predictable.) I was midway in a sentence, though, when my neighbour (who was watching the 50th with me) started screaming bloody murder.
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
I've just finished watching the special episode and man it was awesome :D

Really this was an special episode and it was deserving the wait :D

I really liked the moment in the episode when they introduced Capaldi :p

Ok now back on BBC Three for the after party of the show :D

See ya :p

And [MENTION=4533022]THE RED BLUR[/MENTION] hope you enjoyed the episode :D

I'm waiting for your impression :p

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[Off-topic] pizz0wn3d:
Ugh, I'm stuck at work until 11pm :(
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
+1

:D:thumbup:

Really loved the interaction between the 3 Doctors.

This special does change the mythology of 2005 series a lot in many ways with what happens so need time to process it all.

Yeah that was a nice subtle nod to Capaldi's Doctor.

Watching the after party too.

Edit: One thing they didn't make clear in the episode was what triggered John hurts regeneration into the 9th Doctor?
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AWESOME SPECIAL WAS AWESOME!!!!1!!1!1!1:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Though there were many unclear things. Like why could Matt Smith not remember Tom Baker. And why he couldn't remember The End of Time where the time lords come from time-locked gallifrey. And I'm still not sure who Bad Wolf is. Anyone who can help me out here lol?

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[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
They had to start the regeneration of John Hurt as he should start it after he would start that galaxy eater cuz from what I understood that bomb hurt even the user :rolleyes:

Aaaah what I can answer is that bad wolf is Rose :p

I found out this from the Doctor who guide episode :p

She left those signs after she absorbed the temporal cortex in Ecclestone's time :rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Lol.

Yes you raise some interesting points.

I liked the episode a lot but have some small issues with it as well.

Yes what does this mean about the time locked Galifreans that wanted to asend onto the stairs with the leader Timothy Dalton in the episode End of Time.

Is this timeline now wiped out. :confused:

Well this time war was supposed to be a fixed point in time and in a time lock so they didn't explain how this was done or even possible?? .

( I hope this is not another thing moffet has done without an actual plan to explain :cool: otherwise he is contradicting what RTD set up )

They did explain that John Hurt, Tennant and Christopher Eccleston wont remember the events of the episode so the Doctor will still carry on as we saw him in 2005 thinking he ended the time war by killing the deleks and the time lords so he can go on that same character Journey. :)

But when he reaches the moment of the END OF TIME (which had the crazy Galifreans) if Galifrey has been saved then those events cant happpen anymore which means they didn't have to send the 4 beats back through the time vortex to the Master which made him hear the drums thus making him go insane in the first place so none of the events happen so Tennent survived it ! :eek::eek::confused:

I need help too. Help Help! :D
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
Lol RED you've made my brain confused @_@

Talk tomorrow as it's late here and I'm too dizzy of these new theories :rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Did you not see the same episode :rolleyes:

He didnt use the bomb :D:p

They have changed the whole of the timeline now. Read my above post about that. ;)

So that part is still unclear.

Edit: Lol Just saw ur other post. Coolio mate till tommorow . My brain hurts too :D
[Off-topic] Christian Nothing:
in the normal course of the doctor's timeline that bomb really was detonated by John , but this episode was just another way of his timeline , and after that adventure he had to regenerate to continue to Ecclestone time , it's an timeley wimeley stuff :cyclops:

talk tomorrow more about this subject as i'm tired , you have -2 hours than me and i'm sleepy :silly:
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Yes agree about that was supposed to happen in the original timeline.

But I haven't ever seen a forced regeneration before through timey wimey :D:p

That could be it but they should have explained it better. Its normally through a severe injury, or old age itself :cool:

Yes of course he had to regenerate into Eccleston. ( wish the actor made the effort to appear for a couple of seconds :sly::cool: )

Cool m8. Later ;)
[Off-topic] delsus:
I'll post my theories tomorrow but the Doctor can't have stopped the Time Lords Ultimate Sanction because that is the reason he stole the moment to prevent that.
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Looking forward to your theories:)..

But my point is. The timelords were not shown as the insane version as in the end of time with this Ultimate sanction.

They didn't even portray that in this episode as part of the reason the Doctor had no choice but to destroy both the Deleks and Timelords :confused::confused:

So this is where the contradiction happens with RTD version of the timelords at the end of the timewar:cool:

This is part of the problem I have with Moffet. He is brilliant at writing a few episodes in a season under someone else as Head writer / Show runner like he done for RTD.

But he himself as the head, he goes too extravagant with his ideas that leaves soo many plot holes that fall under itself.

I get the feeling he doesn't plan well how the idea will pan out in continuity terms. He just wings it and hopes for the best..
[Off-topic] xaccers:
It all made sense to me.

The Time War had burned so many planets already and there was no sign of an end in sight so it would go on and burn the rest as the Time Lords and Daleks battled it out.

The only way the Doctor could see to stop it was to destroy Gallifrey and with it the TLs and Daleks, remember there's the Eye of Harmony, the source of the TL's power under the Citadel, so the ultimate weapon would have done the job at the cost of all those non-combatants, but saving all those lives on other planets.

With the 13 Doctor's TARDIS freezing Gallifrey in a moment in time, it ceased to exist so the Daleks ended up shooting themselves and still being destroyed.

When the timelines sorted themselves out, John Hurt's Doctor would have gone back to his timeline as thinking he had pushed the big red button, he then started to regenerate commenting that he had been running himself a bit thin, so he died of old age/being worn out and became Eccles-cake.

PS Timothy Dalton would play a much better Master than that snivelling simpleton that John Simm portrayed ruining the character. Heck even Eric Roberts did a better job of playing the Master!
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But the doctor thought in previous episodes that it was time locked and he knew it, because in The End of Time the Time Lords came out of the time lock, right?

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[Off-topic] xaccers:
Tennant event mentioned the time lock when they joined Hurt at the Moment device, he said it should be time locked so obviously the Moment had the power to negate that, it is after all the ultimate weapon with a sentient and judgemental operating system.

So Gallifrey is still time locked, but not the moment before destruction along with the Daleks, instead the Daleks were left behind to destroy themselves.
[Off-topic] hyperthrust:
Thanks for the explanation in your previous post. I rewatched John Hurts regeneration earlier and your right it seems it was just of old age like the first Doctor. :):thumbup:

Everything else I agree and understand ;)

But what is left unclear now as TRB stated is the events of the evil timelord rassilon and his plan to ascend to the stairs in End of time. :confused:

This will effect the 10th Doctors original journey now in his timeline which lead to his regeneration and also the Masters cause the events of end of time will never have happened and also the sound of drums not placed in the masters mind thus making him crazy... :cool:
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Rassilon would still have tried to get out of the time lock they're now in, so that wouldn't have changed.

The only thing that's changed is that the Doctor now knows he didn't destroy Gallifrey, and so can safely release it from the time lock, he just has to find which pocket universe it's hiding in.
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Yay! It all makes sense! Now I can be at peace in the knowledge that it was not in fact riddled with plot holes :) :D

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[Off-topic] xaccers:
The only way it could have been better is if Tom Baker had offered Matt Smith a jelly baby at the end.
[Off-topic] THE RED BLUR:
Fair point on the Rassilon thing. ;)

The only plot hole left is the explanation of why other doctors forget about the events apart from Smith.

I get it if he is the current doctor and its in his timeline.

But the fact they had Capaldi's 12/13th Doctor involved in saving Gallifrey suggest now that matt isn't the current one and is a past version like Tennant and Hurt :eek::confused:

So technically he should forget as well right?
[Off-topic] xaccers:
It's all timey wimey stuff ;)

It goes like this:

Hurt's timeline goes back to the events of the time war believing that he pushed the big red button and dies becoming Eccles-cake.

Eccles-cake, Tennant and Matt Smith therefore all believed that they (as Hurt's Doctor) had pressed the button, but then as Matt Smith is the latest Doctor to be affected by the timeline change, he remembers from that point onwards because his timeline continues.

Capaldi's Doctor would remember the events as he's a regeneration from Matt Smith, and so would know when to turn up and what to do.

Remember the special before Titanic when Davison appears in the Tardis and Tennant knows what to do because he remembers watching himself do it as Davison. There was no change in timelines so no memory loss.
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
Eccles-cake. Gets me every time XD

PS. It's been done
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Well, as far as I'm concerned he wasted a huge gift by only lasting 1 year, likewise with Tennant only doing 3.

I would love for Capaldi's Doctor to be great, and as a fan of the show himself, stick with it until the very end where the Doctor goes back to the time of Rassilon and throws himself into the looms.
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
I believe he thought it wouldn't do as well as it did, and didn't want to be associated with it in the way Smith and Tennant are, where people say "oh look it's dr who" whatever they do
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Reminds me of Alec Guinness hating being remembered as Obi Wan, to the extent that when he was recognised by a 6 year old in the street who believed he was Obi Wan and was going on and on about how great he was, Alec turned to him and asked "Will you do something for Obi Wan? Will you never watch Star Wars again?" and left the kid in tears.

You do not take on the role of the Doctor without knowing that you're also taking on the fans and the mythos of the series.