yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] invinciblecc:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

guys I have downloaded and I on sotmax v13 so can I run triangle away

Or I am on new bootloader and ned to downgrade first
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Do you get a red exclamation point on bootscreen?

Like that:
[Galaxy S III General] invinciblecc:
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Yes i get it and i used to get even before I flashed sotmax I guess

Btw what are my chances of facing sds If I n on phills recovery and yanks kernel ae they equal to others or quite less or very less just asking for a suggestion
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Then you're on the new bootloader. You'll need to downgrade and then use TA to reset counters.

Read up more on SDS here.
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
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Hi

The problem of sds is memory. It mean 16 gb internal memory ? Am I true ?

So if we use ExtSD2InternalSD mod to use external memory instead of internal, can it be a solution for decreasing the risk of sudden death ?
[Galaxy S III General] MuertoKo:
nothing to do with that afaik. It has to do with the 16Gb MODELS. Seems 16 and 32 Gb models use different chips, so that's why only 16Gb models are affected, not becuase of the amount of memory but because of the chip they use.

Worth the try though! Only fix right now is using patched kernel and recovery and pray for this samsung's fix to work :P
[Galaxy S III General] Muaddib69:
Q is here --> And what if I the device is with stock ROM (XXELLC obtained thru Kies) AND rooted using Chainfire's recently updated auto root you mention?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S III General] RevoWution:
Yup, mine's dated 10/2012 in the eMMC Check app, and when I run the custom Siyah kernel and the above command thru Terminal Emulator, I get a big, fat 2.

I've only had the phone for just under 1 month since new, and flashed Yank555's & PhilZ's SDS-fixed kernel and recovery, respectively, last week, so I hope I initiated the supposed fail-safe before any serious damage was done hehe :)
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
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I know its not because of capacity. I don't know how exactly that mod work. I mean by using this mod maybe we can bypass booting from internal memory. And boot from external memory to avoid damage the intenal memory.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Just above your post.
[Galaxy S III General] odoto:
well, it might be that you would delay SDS by reducing write OPs to the NAND, but that is pure speculation...

can't hurt though... except your performance ;)
[Galaxy S III General] JPsy Droid:
@Muaddib69: That should be fine, it's the way i go too. I think there will be no exclamation mark at boot, it's stock and stock recovery.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You actually quoted the answer. CF auto root is safe
[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
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My phone is one of those who is supposed to be affected...

I flashed my phone just the other day with stock 4.1.2, which was downloaded from sammobile and released in the middle of October. I then rooted with latest cf-auto-root.

I was on the same official rom before, but was then rooted with cf-root, and my status red changed.

Something strange is happening to my phone. I had a few reboots last week and suddenly apps started to crash out of the blue. Felt and behaved like a memory issue. I've had no reboots after flashing, but some apps still crash for no reason (what I can see), and it definitely feels warmer than normal.

Now, my led isn't red, it's blue wether I reboot or boot from off. What does that mean?

Another strange thing

When I flashed and rooted the first time with this firmware I lost the welcome sound on boot. Then I installed chainfires fix for exynos (totally different problem, I know), and after that I've got the welcome sound back again. After my last flash it disappeared again.

I've used TA to reset the counter and my status reeds normal under settings and official from TA after reboot, but I sense that something is wrong with it and I'm thinking of unroot to be safe if sds occurs...

//Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
One hint... Use triangle away to reset all counters and flash a official stock XXELL1/4/5... They have the SD-Fix already and your'e fully official then but you still can use chainfires ExynosAbuse App to root and unroot the phone how you like without modifying any counters. Only for the case if your phone dies.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
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Why do I have to do that when I'm already on Samsungs official XXELL4, (compile (right word?) JZO54K.I9300XXELL4), released in October 2012?

// Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
The firmwares which have the (alleged) SDS fix also have the Exynos exploit fix.

Besides, he's already on LL4
[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
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Which firmware is this, and how do I know if I've got it?

The firmware I've used both times was released in October, and I couldn't find any newer release when I searched sammobile the other day.

It's ok if I have to flash a new bootloader or root/unroot, but I rather not flash a new rom again. Too much work even with titanium, but of course I'll do it if I have to.

// Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
There's a thread compiling known issues - I suggest you go through it.
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
Can not be. XXELL5 is rootable by the ExynosAbuse app and the kernel already contains the string VTU00M which we see as indicator that it contains the fix.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] Koetermann:
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Hi rootSU,

recovery tool TWRP is now SDS fixed (2.3.3.1). Could you please pin this info in the OP?

Regards

Koetermann

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[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
Sv: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I've already did that. I'm not an native English speaker so maybe I don't understand this correctly, or maybe it's just the high fever that don't make me think straight...

If I understand this correctly the best choice is to go back to 4.0, but I rather stay with 4.1.2 if that's possible. Maybe I need to unroot as well, but shouldn't I be ok as long as warranty concerns already?

// Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
Can not be, also. I'm on XXELL5, kernel compiled in december 2012.

Just did a google picture search for XXELL4, and the XXELL4 kernel seems to be compiled on 10th of December 2012.

The idea was to have a stock phone (for warranty) but still have root to use it.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
No you need to flash LLA or above (patched firmware) to be considered safe. If you're on 4.1.2 chances are you're already on a patched ROM. Check the list of safe ROMs to confirm.

Warranty-wise if you've never even rooted you're safe.
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
Can you maybe explain, why you think LLA has the fix more than LL1/LL4/LL5?

We found the strings in all these kernels...

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
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The only one I found was the one I used the last time, compiled in October. Can you provide a link to the one from December?

Precisely :)

If I flash it one more time, what's the best way to root of not using cf-auto-root?

// Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] Muaddib69:
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Thanks rootsu, but then the setup I'm using it's a safe combination to add to the first post under "recap".

Sent from my wall-mounted corded telephone
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
If you flash XXELL1/XXELL4/XXELL5 you can easily root with:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2050297

If you are able to root XXELLA that way, I don't know.

Youre sure it's XXELL4 that you have from october? Google XXELL4, it is newer...

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
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I've got the exynos installed, but I didn't root through it. Is that a better way to root than cf-auto-root, and if so, why?

// Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
Cause it just get's root via the exploit and installs SU file without reboot.

Without need to flashing anything. Without changing flash counter.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] Stromma:
Sv: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Thanks for the explanation!

But as long as warranty is concerned, shouldn't it be enough if I unrooted and then rooted through ExynosAbuse?

As far as I can tell nobody seems to know for sure exactly what impact this has in the long run, if it's already damaged and have caused other problems due to overheating etc. All I know it's that something is really wrong with my phone and I'm pretty sure it's gonna die wether it's through the sds or something else, so I really don't care if I'm safe or not.

// Strömma
[Galaxy S III General] fabiocpinto:
So if I'm on 4.1.2 and I want to root it I sohuld flash a Kernel and a custom recovery for saving me from death, right?

I have a 4.0.4 on my S3 but I think I'm letting it die because it passed 225 days since I plugged in for the first time.

Am I doing the best thing here?

Regrats
[Galaxy S III General] ducky1979:
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I ran the Siyah test and returned a 2

Type VTU00M

Date 05/2012

FwRev 0xf1

And this is my second handset after vofafone UK replaced my original one, so I've no way of knowing how long this reconditioned unit has been in use or how.

I knew I should have got the 32gb!

Never mind. I ain't gonna be worrying about it! If it dies it dies.
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
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@rootSU

We are very close to 40 tested devices that have 0XF1. Maybe already above.

All answered with "2" on Oranav-Test.

:p :p

Taper di Tap with my S3 @186 days
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yup. I agree it looks like all are affected
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
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Please check now
[Galaxy S III General] Muaddib69:
Thanks, master :good:
[Galaxy S III General] cammel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

@rootSu hi dude, I have one question.. (maybe more :p) I'm on stock LLC rooted with my counter at zero and every status on my phone is original/normal.

So far so good, now the thing is that I want to try out a new beta of paranoid android rom (that I also have installed on my nexus 7 and works really awesome!) but the thing is that I have the new bootloader from LLA installed on my phone, so as I need to install TWRP in order to install paranoid android rom, I'm guessing that I'll be seeing the red exclamation mark a lot every time I turn on my phone, so my question is, which is the safest way to roll back to an old bootloader in order to avoid that stupid red mark but still be safe? I saw that there is a zip file somewhere that rolls back to an old bootloader, and also I could try flashing a stock ics rom, and then update it via OTA in order to go back to an old bootloader, but what do you think is the best way to do it?

Thanks a lot in advance for the help!

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[Galaxy S III General] cooltarun:
I think we haven't had any "0" yet with 0xF1. With this I think we can probably say that either the assumption that only a batch of 0xF1 are affected is not true or Oranav-test is not correct. If the former is true then that would mean that all S3 devices with 0XF1 are going to die eventually (which course are not yet patched with update 7 fixes)?
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
Not necessary. I have friends with S3 bought in may, and they are running strong with no glitches whatsoever, Some of them are still on ICS even. I think that SDS is a cumulus of factors, not only that you have the vulnerable chip. Just my 2 cents...
[Galaxy S III General] odoto:
agreed. I'm on XELL4 and routed through ExynosAbuse
[Galaxy S III General] MIKEMON:
I do not know, but it is not at all the same, someone else has 190 days 230 days and yet

SDS why? Guarded by all, but everything is on the phone, we can only hope that

We recowery a good kernel for protection, nothing more, time will tell if OK!!: P: P: Smích:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
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I'll be honest, I'm not sure. I read that it had some downgrade protection but I never really investigated as it was not going to affect me. I flashed my sboot via odin but not sure if that works for anyone else
[Galaxy S III General] cooltarun:
All the 0xF1 devices which have taken the oranav-test have reported all to be affected i.e. the result has been that all 40 random devices with 0xF1 as per oranav-test are affected. If we believe that only some batch out of the sold S3 are affected then it is likely that the oranav-test is not fully correct in reporting that all these are affected with SDS.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
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He is suggesting that all that are affected may not get sds because it may be that you need affected chip + something else.

It cannot be proven or disproven at this stage
[Galaxy S III General] foxrobi:
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with foxhound 1.7 and kernel phenomenal am i safe? How do I know if my s3 is at risk?

Thanks a lot

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[Galaxy S III General] JPsy Droid:
@cammel (and others): to go back to old bootloader, see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2081748 - thats easy imho...

Greetz JPsy
[Galaxy S III General] iraqi4ever80:
sorry I didnt understand I flashed stock firmware of germany 4.1.2 0XXELL5_I9300VFGELL1_I9300BUELK1 is it safe or not please advice me
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is it in post 1?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

The kernel is not mentioned in post 1. This is because its either unsafe or no one told me its safe.

Safe things are in post 1. I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp
[Galaxy S III General] foxrobi:
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OK i nave flash perseus 31 becaus my chip si the affected....i m now safe?

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[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
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If its a touchwiz rom, one that says TW next to it. If its an AOSP rom, one that says that
[Galaxy S III General] iraqi4ever80:
thank you for reply i read it you said it is safe but with more reading i became confused i just want to be sure thank u again
[Galaxy S III General] foxrobi:
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There is only one file of perseus...

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[Galaxy S III General] Meme__007:
what can i do?

hello my friend I am attaching pictures of my s3 c not to do? I have the 4.1.2 for about two months but according to the eMMC I have the same type and the same fwrev! Any recommendations? thanks :good:
[Galaxy S III General] bsam46:
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I ve this defected chip suggested by emmc checker here is view of what it's look like.

Please tell m I vulnerable or any precautionary thing I should do. I ve a phone with no warranty.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Perseus is one kernel. Siyah is another. Just read post 1
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

if its in post 1, its safe
[Galaxy S III General] Origin123:
Only heard about this sudden death, going to flash CM 10.1 hopefully. :good:
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
You don't want to read what i just wrote there. Again, more detailed:

Many people here jumped to the conclusion that oronav test said you are affected. I think is more like you are vulnerable. I bet TENS of MILLIONS S3's with exactly that chip will die by old age not by the "affection".

It needs something else to exploit that vulnerability and i am not talking about the exynos vulnerability which is something else. I bet that without the bold text around 50 post will jump to tell me the exynos exploit was fixed already...:mad:

I think even if that oronav test will be conclusive (for me 40 tested units is nothing because if you have 40K dead out of 40M it means that you need to need to test way more phones to reach that 1% until you hit a good one or not)

that test will tell you that you have a vulnerable EMCC. Anyway, why 40K deaths? Why not 2K? We are really heading to loosing our minds here...

Example: my house is built out of wood. Vulnerable to fire? Sure, more than a concrete one for sure. But what if i do not use open fire in it? Chances are that i can live longer without getting burn by the damn flames.:rolleyes: Obviously i will use fireproof materials when they appear, but it solves just half of the problem. The fire is still there...

Sorry, but all this is turning into an immense joke like: i am safe?

No, i think no one is safe until we will not find out EXACTLY why is happening. We already have a good idea what is happening: the damn house can burn from fire.

Now, for all smart people here: find the damn fire!

We will sleep better.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
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Sorry I noticed this was mentioned but was not changed in the first post but I was waiting to update Omega Rom which comes with a Stock ZSEMA1 KERNEL but in the IST POST it stops @ XXELLC will thus be updated thanx

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
No, I'm not going to check every kernel forever. It has become clear all 4.1.2 kernels have the fix.

I will re-word it slightly however.
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
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@qavro

You Hit the nail......

This test was not made to tell that every 0XF1 will die. I just wanted to know, if Samsung used the same firmware for all 0xf1. And it looks like. But as already said, I'm sure not all of them will die...

Taper di Tap with my S3 @186 days
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
At least someone understood what i was saying...

Back to the school so i can improve my english skills :mad:

We will not find out why some houses burn and some others don't (even built from the exact same material) until we will not figure how the fire actually starts. We are just buying some fireproof materials (as usual) meaning: we are treating the effect, not the cause. And when the "fireproofed" houses will start ignite again what then? We will hope for another miracle fireproof material, and forget about the fire. Again.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
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Thanks Rootsu for this thread its very informative

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
No probs. Hope the first post is clearer on stock roms etc now.
[Galaxy S III General] foxrobi:
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Base band buelk....

Its OK?

I hope i m safe now...

Recovery philz 4

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[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yep, Just need the recovery and a kernel like perseus. All good.
[Galaxy S III General] blyx21:
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Almost all sds cases are using jb rom but how come theres no sds s3 in ics users. Just like in galaxy plus you are totally safe if you stay with honeycomb.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Are u sure of that ? have u a source link ?

Thks
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
I still have ICS on my phone (bought it recently) , JB 4.1.2 is not released yet to my region, so will it be safe if I stay with ICS until JB 4.1.2 is released? :)
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Sorry to tell you, but there were some ICS stock cases unfortunately.

NOT SAFE WITH ICS. Before anyone thinks so.:(
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
that's what I thought :(

thks for for correcting.
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
I saw a recent reply to a thread in XDA that White and Blue versions of SGSIII to be affected first and other colours still not affected? is this true? :confused:

Just got a s3 in black...
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
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My guess would brbevausr other colors were released laterthan blue and white but they have thesame insides sorry

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] paulrh:
My wife's S3 received an OTA update (154 MB) which I installed yesterday.

New software shown in attachment.

It is a completely stock phone bought at Christmas.
[Galaxy S III General] rowansmith:
So I have read post one in this thread and perhaps I am over analyzing but it is not clear to me:

I am running:

Baseband: I9300XXLH1

and

CM10.1 (2013-01-18)

Firstly am I "patched" against SD? Or do I need to be running a XXELL* Baseband version?

Secondly, I am running CWM 6.0.2.7 - I understand this is not patched, however, when does the CWM Kernel load?

Everytime the phone boots? Everytime I upgrade a CM10.1 nightly? Or only when I manually hold down the three buttons?

Thanks.

-Rowan
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
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When CWM loads.
[Galaxy S III General] cooltarun:
Well, that's exactly my point if you had read and comprehended my post better. In other words, all that I was trying to convey here was that we cannot just go by Oranav-test to conclude that our device is affected or not. There has to something else other than just checking :

If eMMC chip type = "VTU00M" AND firmware date = "04/12" AND firmware revision = "0xF1"

then

SDS - Print 2

else

Print 0

So, all the posts which are coming in this thread that 40/40 devices (100%) which have taken the oranav-test have SDS, this statement may be true or it cannot be, we can't just be conclusive about it.
[Galaxy S III General] cocous:
the oranav test read the mmc chip only. Anyone with the 0xf1 takes 2 in result.

it doesn't matter the firmware date.

I have 10/12 and in oranav test the result is 2

and I have friends with other release dates and haves the same (2).
[Galaxy S III General] cooltarun:
It does check the firmware date, please go back and read old posts. "10/12" date which you are referring to is the the manufacturing date of the chip which gets shown by eMMC check app and not the firmware date. Firmware date is not reported through eMMC check app.
[Galaxy S III General] cocous:
I want to ask you something

you see anyone here with the 0xf1 chip to take 0 in oranav test?
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
Guys just did a eMMC check and my chip type is VTU00M and fwrev is oxf7. am I safe?

Please reply :crying:
[Galaxy S III General] pogi1100:
Temasek's CM10.1 kernel has the fix too.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yep. Just been looking through the thread and download locations but I need to spend more time looking at teh layout etc. I didn't find navigation that easy.

Edit> Can only find a changelog - no actual file.
[Galaxy S III General] 75markus:
here is temasek´s online folder : http://temasek.hopto.org/?dir=Samsung Galaxy S3 - i9300/CM10.1
[Galaxy S III General] xanthrax:
it doesn`t contain the new kernel though , http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36525491&postcount=6726
[Galaxy S III General] 75markus:
it does , the newest one (SDS patched) is "090113-1044-cm10.1-i9300-linux3057-temasek.zip	7.58 MB	09.01.13 04:42:48"

edit : it has been moved to the wrong folder "old" ...
[Galaxy S III General] emmanueldmc:
the fault is in the kernel? That means I can use any rom regardless of the version provided the kernel has the patch for this bug and I'll be secure?
[Galaxy S III General] xanthrax:
kernel and recovery ...
[Galaxy S III General] thegh0sts:
or use any rom with any kernel that has the fix like siyah or perseus..provided they have the fix.

I wish CWM 6.0.2.8 would come soon with the EMMC fix.