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[Android General] diquan2001:
Help i think i bricked my Onda v972

So i downloaded the original v1.02 yesterday but after a few hours of downloading it was finished but gave fault when unpacking .

Now im downloading again hoping it will download correctly today .So what you are saying is that i just need to install the original firmware v1.02 first and then the new v1.32 after that with phoenixsuit right?
[Android General] diquan2001:
Yes i did it ..My Onda V972 is running on Firmware v1.32 finaly it worked..So does anybody now if i can still have root with this new firmware??
[Android General] piror:
Well, the method to have onda v972 on firmware 1.32 and rooted is :

Update the firmware of the tablet to the 1.32( you can do ot by ota or flashing it with phoenix suite)

After that, you need to copy the script zip into the root directory of the sd(the mounted, not the extsd)

Then aply the script with the software to update the tablet(the one on the tablet with the blue arrow looking up) by choosing local update.

The tablet will restart and all is done, you have supersu installed.

I hope my english is right for you to umderstand me.

PD: it seems some people in the spanish forum gets to unpack the official firmware and is modifying some things on it trying to make the tablet working better. This seems to be possible thanks to redscorpio from xda, that provides the right tool for it.

So thank you so much redscorpio.

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[Android General] rcasey4566:
Did this clear all of the Chinese.

I reformatted and got the 1.2 to reinstall but, I still get "This Device is not Compatible" when trying to download many apps.

These apps work fine on my jellybean phone.

Did you follow the same steps shown for the 1.2 installer, to get the 1.3 installed?

Thank you

Roger
[Android General] arctablet:
I have posted a tutorial for a modified root package. It works with the "Update" application on the Onda tablet which pushes updates handled by the recovery.

Here is a video as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHEQgh8Dnts

Cheers.
[Android General] piror:
You may use an alternative market in order to install that apps, you can try with blackmart, aptoide (is on the playstore)...

I hope you can get that apps running with that

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[Android General] msav:
Most apps publishers choose to certify their apps to work with certain hardware. These apps will either not show up in playstore or will contain a message that your device is not compatible. since this device is brand new or not popular you may never see you app available for this device.

There are ways around this. you can sideload the app if you can find the apk. (this results in an app that will not update from market)

Or you can edit the build.prop file to mimic another device. (this could lead to installing an app that is not compatible with your device or in some games the wrong GPU files for your app).
[Android General] minerva1961:
I've had mine for a few months now, flashed with latest ROM and it's as smooth as silk, definitely on a par with my GF iPad, it was your decision to flash the tablet so you can't blame the shop/company if you can't read instructions and have F***** it up, if you take your auto apart and then it doesn't work when you put it back together would you go screaming at the garage where you bought it from?
[Android General] cau96176:
I do apologise.......I must have missed the part in your initial post where you were asking for some sensible, practical advice to help fix your tablet.

It might be my poor reading skills but all I read from the above post was an aggressive and angry rant..in BOLD
[Android General] ksaplostra:
This must be the easiest tablet/phone ever to get on my hands and got upgraded!

V3.2 firmware makes the tablet extremely smooth,BUT i noticed 2 things.

Opera lags like hell,while the default chinese brwser is ultra fast..

And wifi. Stability is an issue...

Btw how do i remove all that china bloat?

Any custom roms?
[Android General] slojustme:
Kasty Rom, link is published somewhere in last 2 pages of topic :)

Works like a charm ;)
[Android General] Berties123:
If you have root you can remove chinese apps. My G3S had Chinese manual, calendar, and baidu input.
[Android General] ksaplostra:
I do,how?
[Android General] Berties123:
Install ES file explorer, then navigate to system\app.

I'd copy the apk to SD case prior to delete, as a system backup just in case you need it later.
[Android General] howard bamber:
Look on utube or buy an Amazon gg

I've a great Chinese tablet by pipo thx it's 4x 1.8gig with 8 core gpu. 2gig of ddr3 ram plus 3g wmcda for calls and net. Cost £200.id buy it again. I'm writing this on a quad core Chinese phone too. It's so good my note is gathering dust with an HTC desire x. If you pay silly money you get crap. BUT spend a couple of hundred which is still low, do research and you will get a bargain. Buy off Amazon and send it back if it's crap. Simple. Oh stop whining :mad:
[Android General] Jhn1:
Are these all V1s?

Or which ones can be used with both V1 and V2 models?
[Android General] kentgoh88:
does this tablet really support miracast?
[Android General] natkingcole:
Not yet, but Allwinner has tested Miracast and it's working with all A31. It will (should) be supported in later Firmwares.
[Android General] curiou5:
Did he mention how he upgrade that ends up bricking his onda. Did he asked for help here. I didn't see any. Surely if he has asked, we would have help him. I bricked mine a few times but managed to unbrick it.
[Android General] cau96176:
I said exactly the same thing......I have also sent them a PM last week but have had no reply
[Android General] bw1969:
I got the Onda V972 and I did the Phoenix upgrade to Version 3.2... The performance improvements were very noticeable and the pad runs smoothly and is very quick! Very happy!! Although... now my camera will not work... Is there any fix for this without going back to the original? I would like to simply just fix the darn camera... and enjoy using my pad and not working on it all the time! lol

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide!!
[Android General] cau96176:
The usual culprit for this is installing the wrong version number V1 on a V2 tablet or V2 on a V1 tablet.

Did you use the arctablet "kasty" rom or the original ONDA rom?
[Android General] curiou5:
Flash the original version from Onda. I flashed the original software from Onda and everything works. The use eroot to root the tablet to remove all the chinese apps. However downloading the software from Onda can be a chore.
[Android General] bw1969:
I checked my system before I flashed to make sure of the version I had... It was clearly V2... so that is what I used. But... I read that some of these tablets are labeled incorrectly... so I took you advice and flashed it with V1... It did NOT work... The pad was way off... everything was upside down and it was crazy trying to get to flash back to V2... but I got it... although my camera still does not work... I have also flashed with both the original Onda rom and the Kasty rom... No camera... I guess I will try and download original rom and start over....

If I am able to get ahold of the original rom, should I get it up and running and then flash with Kasty rom over that once I know the cam works?

Thanks again for all of your help!!
[Android General] cau96176:
I've hear over on another forum that you should try re-flashing and choose the MANDATORY FORMAT option.
[Android General] bw1969:
I did select "YES" at the format option each time I flashed... so maybe I should try NO... ?? I am so frustrated with this. The pad works great except for the no camera options...
[Android General] bw1969:
Ok... so I was able to get firmware v 1.2 and flash the tablet back to 1.2... Once the flash completed, the camera worked!!!! BUT... I then went on and flashed the Kasty Rom and again... the camera will not work... Any suggestions or thoughts now?

Thank you again for any help you can provide me...
[Android General] bw1969:
FYI... I got this thing working and the camera working as well!!!

I flashed v 1.2 again and then I flashed the Kasty Rom, version by version... I didn't jump to 3.2 right away... after each flash, I checked and if the camera worked... I would flash the next rom...

Thanks again for all of your help
[Android General] cau96176:
Glad to hear you managed to get it sorted.......a bit of perseverance does you the world of good!
[Android General] Dan Law 001:
I just looked on their website and I think they have their own community.
[Android General] snoofaki:
New official version 3.2.1!!! With this version I have 18000!!!!!score in antutu and much better battery drain

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[Android General] Dan Law 001:
They shipped with a 8500mAh isn't?
[Android General] Androdemon:
awesome for the tablet

hear that apple :D
[Android General] petepc:
I can confirm the following on firmware 3.2.1 V1 (rooted)

Antutu v3.4

Score 18846

RAM 2574

CPU integer 6035

CPU Float 4017

2D graphics 2127

3D graphics 3320

Database 420

SC write 150

Sd read 203

CPU freq 1008 MHz
[Android General] msav:
I confirm petepc findings.

3.2.1 rom is awesome and has much improved battery life.
[Android General] spectra9:
Wow, 6k+ CPU integer score is impressive. I thought the A31 is considered as having a rather sub par CPU? IIRC, initial Antutu score for the V972 when it's first released was only around 11k, that's a massive jump to 18k+
[Android General] petepc:
I tried overclock to 1.152 and result was stable, score of 19734 :)
[Android General] Plumplum88:
very strange high Antutu score

on CPU

CPU score : >6000pts with a 1Ghz quad-core A7

When :

quad-core A9 are behind...they should not be according to Arm

Exynos 4412 1.6Ghz quad A9 : about 4600

Rockchip 3188 1.6Ghz quad A9 : about 4300

Tegra 3 1.3Ghz quad A9 : about 3600....

On the other side Quadrant is weak on Allwinner A31 : 2800

when both Exynos and Rockchip are over 5000, Tegra 3 near 4000

Even Exynos 5 on Galaxy S4 haven't such high

CPU scores

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/67821/samsung-galaxy-s4-exynos-5-octa-benchmarks.html

If someone can explain....
[Android General] spectra9:
Yeah, that's my thought exactly when I saw the score. Maybe a quirk/bug in Antutu? A 1 GHz A7 beating a 1.6GHz A15 is just "unreal"
[Android General] MHTSOS:
Yet another manufacturer who found out how to trick antutu in order to give higher scores. Nothing new.

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[Android General] jbapin:
what's the trick

overclocked?

CPU & Ram??:confused::confused:
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Use CPU identifier, it will tell u what the real stats are. Its on the market
[Android General] cau96176:
Yip - I agree, something is amiss with the benchmark scores.....

I have mine clocked at 1152MHz and came out with a MASSIVE score of 20320

No I agree the tablet is performing well - but even Christian Troy has no faith in benchmark scores - only the real feel.
[Android General] fayez107:
Hello guy's,

I need a lil info I hope you could help me out. I need to buy a tablet for my mum as her gift and I'm confused wether to go for Onda V972 or Ainol Novo Spark. Both have the same specs where Ainol has 10K mah battery.

Which one should I go for?

Also does this tablet have proper updates and which is the latest android version for it?

Lastly will it support Key Lime?
[Android General] vel_tins:
what she has done to you?

Seriously, don't buy her such a piece of junk.

There are much better devices out, like the Nexus, some Asus devices, etc.

The Onda was my biggest bad-buy of all times.

And I tried tried all firmwares from 1.0.2 up to 3.2.1!

Laggy

Battery always empty, if you need it. The battery drain is just ridiculous.

And it's getting very hot (good, if you live in Alaska or similar, otherwise..), if the display is on and CPU is busy, like website scrolling.

Simply crap.
[Android General] fayez107:
Really ? That's bad. Thanks for your advice man. There are better reviews and comments about Ainol Novo9 Spark.

There are custom ROM available too for it and devs cooking. Ill look into that then. And I'm going for a Chinese Tablet due to low budget & my mum would be using Facebook, Skype & Viber only !
[Android General] vel_tins:
If it needs to be 10", there are not too many alternatives.

But if 7" would fit, the (new) Nexus 7 or Asus Fonepad for example, are in the same price range, like the Onda.
[Android General] KnieveI:
I would look at Pipo M8 pro or Pipo M9.

Iv got a M9 myself. Also got a V972 . It could have been great but battery is draining too fast.

Pipo got a quality thats not behind more popular brands. At half the price.

Thanks

Knievel
[Android General] vel_tins:
The Pipo has a much lower resolution (1280x800), so the battery life and performance might be slightly better.

The

build

quality is ok with the Onda and Pipo.

BUT the problem is always the crappy/badly adapted firmware and also no source code available.

So every modification or custom rom is just tinkering, where some things doesn't work and will never do!

(Important hardware acceleration for example)

Check the CM 10/10.1 threads from Christian Troy and you will understand the problem!

But that is nothing new and after four Chinese brand tablets, it was time for me, to move forward.

If I directly compare the Onda with my Asus Fonepad, the Asus feels

much

smoother.

The battery life is three times of the Onda and it won't cook your legs.

It also adds bluetooth, GPS, 3G and phone function for ~180€

BUT it has a 7" screen only, with the same res. as the pipo (1280x800)

So the decision is easy, why should one buy Chinese junk?

If you can compare a "named brand tablet" and a Chinese one side by side, you'll see/feel the difference after 10 seconds.

As always:

You get what you paid for

Amen :p
[Android General] KnieveI:
Hi.

I dont agree. I compare my Pipo with my tablets from more known brands.

In daily use i dont care if its retina ,1900x1200 or 1280x800 . I dont see much differense.

One of the biggest issues is releasing tablets in a hurry with software thats not ready in anyway.

I do agree that some of the Chinese tablets are crap though. More like kids toys.

A couple of years ago all of them was pretty unusable. But things has happend.

The Chinese Socs are getting better, and in a 2-5 years i think Chinese tablets and phones will be in front.

Thanks

Knievel
[Android General] fayez107:
Well Yes it needs to be 10" or 9.7" as a big screen is needed so fonts and everything is big enough on screen.

And PiPo is unfortunately not available in my country. I have Onda & Ainol popular Chinese brand. Also Archos is available.
[Android General] vel_tins:
That's not what I meant.

I meant if you have a "low-resolution" display, compared with a "Retina", the rendering and processing speed is better, because there are a lot less pixel to calculate and to render and it's also better for the battery life.

I don't notice any difference or pixalation too, even with glasses.

But this might be caused from my age ;)

1280x800 is enough for such small displays.

Absolutely correct.

Maybe, but until then, I will definitely avoid them.
[Android General] Lindsay02:
Onda V972 and Onda V973 which one is more worthwhile purchasing?
[Android General] Plumplum88:
I compare a Cube U30GT2 with a Nexus 7 both side by side...And I think Cube is better...

But you're right, not out of the box!

Not very hard to change simple things to make it run well :

You must change the Launcher because AOSP's one can't handle FullHD or Retina (that's the same problem on Acer Iconia 700)...once you get Apex or Nova, it's smooth...

Once you change Cube U30GT2 to 1280x800 (rom allow you to do that) even with stock launcher it's smooth too

You compare a 1280x800 phonepad to Retina tablet....it's like compare the chrono of two athlets, one run 100m when the other run 200m

Compare to a Pipo M9 with the same resolution!

Many issues on these High-res tablet aren't chinese brands's fault...it often apps's fault

Chrome is slow when Opera run well...is it normal? I don't say Chrome is a "piece of junk", I just say it's not the right browser for my tablet

Stock launcher is slow when others run well...

For many activities you will be able to find something witch work well

But for our friend you're right, a mum need something which work well out of the box. That's why I give my mum a Nexus 7...

On the other side you can't call chinese products "piece of junk" if you're ready to do simple things

I think for this Onda it's exactly the same...Hi-res is bad for some apps (even stock ones) not improved to use Multithreading and GPU properly and the solution is to change these apps

The problem is not the firmware, but some apps in it
[Android General] Diomorgan:
1-Comparing a 7' with a 10' is a NONSENSE, there are TONS of cheap 7' with their crappy resolution, but if you can use a 7 instead of a 10 you can even sacrifice 2 more inches and go for a 5' full HD phone that today are almost a standard and very cheap...

2-Comparing a NON retina with a retina is a NONSENSE TOO.If you are a clever buyer you are smart enaught to know if you need or not a retina display and go for it with hit pro and cons.

3-I gave this tablet as a present as a photographer and his RAW file are ANOTHER WORLD on the V972 display.I made the nonsense compairing with my Asus Memopad 10 (one of the cheapest "branded" 10' pad: pretty smooth, but almost the same battery life without a custom rom) and same files on a standard resolution are crappy.

So, "why buy chinese junk?"

Because it has ipad resolution and power but it cost 1/5 (at least in Europe, I know that in USA there are A LOT of offers about iPad, but in europe Apple makes the rules and the other shops are just able to give you some gifts or $10-20 discount, nothing more...).

I'm keeping reading absurd comparison in this thread.

If you want a RETINA with a huge battery life go for a €599 iPad, otherwise if you are going for a €150 budget retina here is the V972...

It's all up to you.
[Android General] bdjh:
Agree with Diomorgan and Plumplum88.

My gf an I gave an Onda v972 to our mothers. Both are happy with it. Twice an iPad would have been too expensive.
[Android General] Qefx:
Hello,

because I cant read like two hundred pages. Anyone know a video player with position seeking from UPNP servers like Twonky or plex? No video player is able to seek in the vidoe ;( some play the video just fine even 1080p for example. But none allows seeking (fast forward for example)
[Android General] vel_tins:
I don't know, if you read the former posts, but I own the V972 too, so I am definitely competent to compare it with other ones.

Yes, I bought this "chinese junk" and I regret it.

Retina display on a 10"....how many apps support this?

How many people will notice a difference to a, lets say "just" 1080 resolution?

Retina display + crappy firmware/driver --> Battery life = ridiculous

And it's getting damn hot under load and maybe that's the reason for this:

(I opened the Onda, after battery life decreased to ~1 hour)
[Android General] Diomorgan:
Tha'ts why I say "if you need a retina" go for it, otherwise you can buy other tablet, even cheaper with dual core an 1GB of RAM that is ok for browsing and mail or facebook...

Unofortunately, in Europe, the official price of an iPad2 16GB wifi is still €399 = US$532, so you won't be able to find it for less than 250-300 (heavily used) and is a very lowe resolution, but you can't count on a stable OS and tons of apps and an huge battery life.

You can even buy the other Pipo, Qube etc. tablet we said.

Personally I don't see movies on tablet if not on train, and I really don't care about HD on a tablet (hey...it's a tablet), but as said a photographer will enjoy a retina screen A LOT!

My Memopad 10 will be released with a better screen on sept, so I will sell mine and buy a the new one if it will be cheap as the actual Memopad 10, but the actual battery life is pretty short even with a crappy display :(

And it costs me €100 more than the Onda.

That's why we should stop compairing low res tablets with the Onda.

It's like compairing a pickup with a minicar... :-/

You should even consider that some people uses the tablet at home, just like a magazine, in their beds, toilets or sofas and they don't care so much about battery life X-)
[Android General] KnieveI:
My V972 doesent get hot at all. But my Cube U30 gt2 does.

Some places on the screen get so hot its nearly painfull to touch. Im sure its gonna damage the screen pretty fast.

Leads me to think heat problems may be related to bad soldering/quality control.

Thanks

Knievel
[Android General] vel_tins:
First: Apple (Ipad) is and will never be an option!

However, I didn't

need

a "Retina", but I thought it could be "nice to have".

And at least the price was only ~180€ and the hardware-specs seemed to be ok for that.

BUT, the crappy firmware from start and low battery life, rendered the tablet almost useless. (Except with the Archos firmware, from which I created a custom Rom for the Onda).

I knew from the first day, the tablet *could* be something for tinkerer.

But nothing for serious daily work.

But now, since one of the batteries has been destroyed after 3 months of barely use, by overheating (or whatever else reason), it shows up as always:

You get what you paid for...

But at least I learned one lesson: I really, really don't need a 10" tablet....:laugh:

PS: Meanwhile I bought an Asus too (Fonepad), which worked out of the box, doesn't get hot and the battery life is extraordinary.
[Android General] fayez107:
Relax guys. I need a bit of advice from you experts around. Onda unfortunately isn't available in my country and they say it's not being imported anymore due to problems.

So this is where I end up.

I need help choosing Ainol Novo 9 Spark or Ainol Novo 10 Eternal (known as Captain with 2GB ram and 1200x800 display)

I like the Novo 9 Spark but I read it has wifi problems ( which im not sure is hardware or software) and low speaker volume and it's retina display eats a lot of battery, doesn't support all apps and isn't good for 3D gaming.

Where as Eternal (Captain) has no WiFi problems until now (supports 150mbps), a better battery life (11000 Mah) and as its 1200x800 display it is much faster and has a decent volume. But it has a cheap poor performance CPU ATM 7029 and poor GPU GC 1000. As its new it lacks custom roms and stock repacks too :(..

Which one should I go for?

I'll be buying either one this week.

Sent from my GT-I9105
[Android General] Qefx:
Anyone know a Video player which can fast forward / rewind in 1080p Videos streamed via upnp / dlna or Smb?
[Android General] vel_tins:
XBMC!

Just tested.

1080p via UPNP without problems.
[Android General] Qefx:
And its working without stuttering? Are you sure? Because Allwinner is closed source graphic drivers... and XBMC don´t want to use them...it tried several versions and all lagged. Which one did you used?
[Android General] oodles1916:
Hey guys, I've an Onda v972, my first tablet, its been a learning curve, I like it but the battery life is just too poor (I'm going to try upgrading the battery, but thats kill or cure, if it doesn't improve or I screw it up I'm chucking it), ironically it has converted me to android, and I'm far more comfortable with tinkering and ROM's I'm getting a tablet for my sister, around the $200-$250 range, and around the 10‘ mark, thinking about a pipo, maybe an ainol. Would anyone have any advice? I want something that's crash/lag free, and especially with decent battery life (retina isn't a must, would be a pro). Any pointers anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated, I just want something solid that isn't obsolete/****e out of the box!