yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] RaMpAgE452001:
hey try NANDROID backup with SGSToolkit,its fun no recovery just plug in ur device and backup on PC hastle free.try it! and even your phone remains on while backing up i havent tried calling while backing up but i m sure it works f9 as internet services work just f9
[Galaxy S III General] Born2Model3D:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Will give it a try..
[Galaxy S III General] nz26:
My device now has the 4.1.2 ELLA update available, I am completely on stock everything, I have only updated from 4.0.4 BLFB to 4.1.1 DLJ4, never rooted, nothing flashed except for the update. EMMC Brickbug says I have a insane chip for sudden death, can someone please confirm whether it is safe for me to update, and is there any risk at all of anything going wrong with this one?

Sorry, just paranoid I'll brick it :P

Cheers!
[Galaxy S III General] Born2Model3D:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You should update. XELLA has the sds fix.

Don't forget to thank me ;)
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
read the first post all your answers are in there. If you decide to flash new rom just follow the guides as they will see you right. If its first time flashing it can be a bit of an anxious time but if you make sure you follow instructions you'll be fine.
[Galaxy S III General] Primokorn:
I don't have any stock rom which could be flashed from recovery... only rooted or custom roms.
[Galaxy S III General] Blazy56:
its really fix the problem?
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Sorry for asking this question after all this. I am on this ROM with the following specifications. This rom has the default kernel as mentioned. Do I need to flash one of the safe kernels?

I ask this because with the default kernel i do not get system modified but with perseus i do.
[Galaxy S III General] j0sefuz:
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[Galaxy S III General] eyezknowz:
how to flash safely

i have sds on my phone with omega v40 rom, yank555 kernel, philz latest touch recovery. how can i flash to a safe rom if download mode isnt safe to use with odin. I have been told i need to flash a stock rom based on xxell or any stock 4.1.2 and that i cant do it with cwm as it doesnt flash bootloader. I have read a lot of threads here and still not clear. can anyone help please. also is triangle away safe to do or mobile odin as phone randomly freezes or reboots. thanks in advance.

from another noob
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
So your phone is dead? You only have SDS if your phone is dead

If your phone is dead, you cant flash anything. If your phone is not dead, you do not have SDS.

SDS = completely dead phone. No screen, No Power.

This is a "Safe" combination. This should prevent you getting SDS, even if you have VTU00M 0xf1 "Insane chip"
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

VikingWay v6

- Rebase on XXEMA2 firmware!

- Stock XXEMA2 kernel and modem. (DXELK1)

- Everything is now stock exept the extended power menu mod.

Please tell me if I need to flash one of the kernels after flashing this rom.
[Galaxy S III General] laxsrbija:
I just got my S3 and it seems like I have the affected eMMC chip. I updated it to XXELL4 before rooting and now I also installed PhilZ Touch recovery, just to be on the safe side. Too bad I cannot install other ROMs :(
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Why not?
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
XXEMA2 FW is it safe or not? :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
read the first post it has all your answers
[Galaxy S III General] samppl:
Why is everyone flashing Philz recovery? Just for the extra features like those in CWM? Like performing nandroid backups.

Also, let's say I do a nandroid on my current phone and it dies and gets replaced, are those backups useless on a new phone (or same phone with new main board)?
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
0) You need CWM (or derivatives like PhilZ) to flash ROMs, and most people here use custom ROMs

1) CWM doesn't have the update7 patch incorporated, PhilZ does

2) A backup made on the I9300 can be restored on another I9300 (this is not the same as "backup on S3 can be restored on another S3")
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
all 4.1.2 kernels have the fixes, just updated to XXEMA2 . Nothing to worry :) :good:
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
1) regarding the thread title, this may be considered as an important remark :good: :)

2) do you know if bck made with philz recovery can be restored with Siyah .. and vice versa (I9300) ?

thks
[Galaxy S III General] RGNDI:
First Post saved my phone, Thanks!
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Siyah is an Android kernel, PhilZ is a recovery! Unrelated.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Siyah has a custom recovery that can be used to work with the dual boot function of the kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Siyah kernel has a recovery ! And regarding post 1 it s safe , so I asked you if it was compatible with philz...

---------- Post added at 06:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------

Thks, I know Siyah kernel/recovery (having installed on one GS2, my question was about backup/restore compatibility with philz ..
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Chip needs fixes applied. Your ROM version of 20130110 includes a fixed kernel (as you can see from post 1) as 20130109 was the first nightly to fix issue

However, your recovery uses an unfixed kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] thegh0sts:
we really need CWM...sooner rather than later.
[Galaxy S III General] vostikan:
ok, but there http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36527675&postcount=100 we can see that LLA and LL5 have same strings about VTU00M.

my region - COA, for it is released by XXELL6. whether I can

to flash its XXELLA? and than to flash, one-file or three-file? via odin PC?

sorry for supid questions i rly dont know.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Nah. I was using Philz already anyway as I thought it better ;)
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
I'm not sure if those strings mean the full fixes are applied or not so its safer to stick with what we think rather than further guessing I say. Go for XXELLA IMHO

You want complete, official ROM, unrooted? I would always use single file (.tar) myself.
[Galaxy S III General] vostikan:
yep , i want complete, official ROM, unrooted. thus that for my region of COA ELL6 is let out, whether I can flash single-file LLA phone via odin PC?
[Galaxy S III General] luisfmolinag:
What recovery has the fix inside?
[Galaxy S III General] xInfinity12:
When I checked emmc it shows VTU00M and 0xf1. Now I would like to know If I flash it using PhilZ Touch will my phone be safe from the sudden death? My Phone is not rooted by the way
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Am i covered?

I just updated to XXELLA, but when i use the EMMC checker, it says that i still have the 0xf1. Am i covered? Why didnt the xxella changed it to 0xf7?
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
God help us all!

Some people really don't want to read the first post... :(
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You would need the entire UK ELLA (Phone, Kernel, everything) to be safe.

This is in post 1.

Fixed recovery only fixes issue for times you are booted INTO recovery, instead of booted into Android. If you are not on ELLA Stock ROM, you may not be covered.

This is answered in post 1.
[Galaxy S III General] thegh0sts:
why can't they just release a firmware update for the EMMC?
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
i bet that firmare is not re-flashable...
[Galaxy S III General] georgesadam:
so if im running xxlla viking way v4.1 with stock lla kernel , i am supposed to be safe from SDS ??

i also have philz newest recovery !
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
The firmware is embedded within the hardware, so even if it is possible, I suspect it would probably be quite dangerous to do do that. High failure rate resulting in brick.

I may be wrong though
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Where can i get kernel, phone, all that. If sammobile only gives us the PDA.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yes unless you are in recovery mode, where you need to ensure you have a fixed recovery

Which you do.
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
yep, you did all you could. you can just pray now that all of these would actually work.
[Galaxy S III General] xInfinity12:
How can I be safe from the sds? I'm totally new on this stuff
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
The file downloaded from Sam has all you need. If you flash the firmware with Mobile Odin everything will be updated but without the new bootloader.

Taper di Tap with my S3 @178 days
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yes I know. I was explaining it to pickandwhammy. I wasn't answering your question. I dont know the answer to your question as I dont know anything about the recovery
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
@rootSU : OK you are right , when does'nt know ... the best is to not answer . Thks again for the thread !
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

IMO they should be fully compatible, because PhilZ is based on CWM, which means it adds functionality, rather than changes existing.

Yeah I figured it out soon enough :)
[Galaxy S III General] Corsario_Negro:
Guys, I've read a lot about this and I'm still unclear on some aspects of the problem, and if there's a 'safe' Android version to use or if it goes beyond that.

My sister just bought a SGS3 that's got the affected chip, and it's got a stock 4.1.2 fw, which I believe means "safe".

Am I right? I hope I am.

Here's a screencap

And just now, a friend of mine sent me this screencap after finding out he has the endangered chip. His provider hasn't pushed any update after 4.1.1 in October, so I believe his case differs from the first one and he's in real danger.

Both phones show no new updates when I connect them to Kies. Which one should I update via Odin first?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

The one that's still on 4.1.1.

Update both to at least LLA to be completely sure. (Exynos exploit fix was introduced in LLA)
[Galaxy S III General] Corsario_Negro:
Will do, thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] kmilof:
hey guys, how's the safest way to update a bootloader without reflashing the whole rom thru odin?.
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Perka had some flashable through Odin in the stash (search in play store), just the bootloader. But I'm not sure if he had any of the new ones.
[Galaxy S III General] MajesticTwelve:
I also have XXELKC and AFAIR it was released at the beginning of december, long before the Exynos exploit was even announced, so there's probably a mistake in the first post (XXELKC shouldn't be on the safe list).
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Seems you are talking about Exynos exploit : Post 1 safe list is for SDS (as well as the thread) !
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
From post 1...
[Galaxy S III General] Lancey:
Hi, guys! Am i safe if i flash Siyah 1.8.9 upon XELLA using download mode?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36499838&postcount=1
[Galaxy S III General] MIKEMON:
THX

Do not use download mode, flash recowery PhilZ stock and wrapped core and it's cool. so far the best configuration.: Pláč:
[Galaxy S III General] saprer:
hi guys ive bought today a samsung galaxy s3

now ive heard about this issue and yes im affected too :((

i have kernel version:

3.0.31 - 836582

se.infra@SEP-97 # 1

SMP PREEMPT Tue Jan 15 14:17:21 KST

2013

and buildnumber:

XXEMA2

baseband:

XELKB

pls guys am i safe or not?
[Galaxy S III General] insomaniac.droid:
According to what is in the first post, yes you are safe.
[Galaxy S III General] blakamin:
Mrs one died this morning. Stock ELLA, only rooted.
[Galaxy S III General] don1338:
Thank you sir.
[Galaxy S III General] blyx21:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is that your 2nd gs3 sds issue? I think you also post last 1/2/13
[Galaxy S III General] migz012788:
want to flash the latest omega rom v40 and it is XXEMA2. is it also safe? because it is not included on the first page however it is one of the latest firmwares..
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
omega rom uses stock kernel (the reason it s not in post 1) , so it is safe
[Galaxy S III General] eRPeeX:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

2) A nandroid backup made on S3a didn't work fine on S3b. I've done it twice after the SDS on my S3a I bought a new S3b for my wife. I used my nandroid backup from S3a on S3b. Everything works except wifi connection. Luck for me the TB works fine. After the repair of the main board for S3a it was the same for my S3a. The backup from S3b didn't work on S3a. Only Titanium Backup works fine.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Worked for me.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
I think S3a and S3b should be exactly the same for nandroid backup to work
[Galaxy S III General] highaltitude:
I just got the BSOD. I have a GT-i9300. I took off the back of the phone (the housing covering SD and SIM card area and along the side up to the power button) to inspect the power button as it seemed pushed in too far and always made it difficult to push especially with a case on. When I reinstalled everything I no longer have screen at all. All I get is a blue flashing LED. I can attach the phone to my PC and see everything, internal and external storage. I even get screen noises from time to time, but nothing at all on the screen. Is this something I can fix, or am I screwed. :(

*edit found it, small rectangle connector with a ribbon cable attached to it on the lower left of the phone (when upside down) was not connected correctly. All working, damn I wish I hadnt flashed it back to stock! lol
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yeah was gonna say, if you had SDS, you wouldnt be able to flash anything or connect to a pc.
[Galaxy S III General] eRPeeX:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

They are exact the same.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
I had a motherboard swapped out. Backup from S3a restored on S3a with new motherboard worked fine
[Galaxy S III General] elspanish88:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If I have 0xf7 am I completely safe? Or do I still need "safe" recovery etc....
[Galaxy S III General] Marilize-Legajuana:
You safe from sudden death, but anyway you need protection. Durex.
[Galaxy S III General] saprer:
guys how can i see my bootloader number? thx

ive got stock no root
[Galaxy S III General] KeesStolk:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

There some system info apps in play store.

I myself like Android system info.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
And would (has) backup from S3b work(ed) on ..... S3b ?
[Galaxy S III General] elspanish88:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Ha ha any particular colour... on serious note thanks for clearing that up for me.

sent from my SGS3
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Just to ask, are you using the stock charger?

I wonder if the charger has anything to do with this, because I have never used my stock charger even once, and after reading scattered reports here about problems with USB cables, death, etc. I wonder if the two things are connected in some way. Perhaps the stock charger is defective on a wider scale than realized by anyone.

I've always used my SII charger (or my Kindle's charger) and had no problems, but the stock charger that came with the SIII is still in the original box.
[Galaxy S III General] htcsnap93:
Just being paranoid chicken.

Can anybody confirm this ; I now have cwm 10.1, siyah kernel 1.8.9 and twrp recovery 2.4. AFAIK SDS safe.
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
So far, it would seem that this is true, but nobody has any definitive proof as to what, specifically, is directly involved with SDS.
[Galaxy S III General] centroi:
the XXEMA2 have the update 7 fix??

it isn't in the list in first page, I have right now xxelkc, have to keep this?, or can I update calmly?
[Galaxy S III General] migz012788:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Regarding on the download mode. I dont really get it. Currently im on omega rom v40. And my bootloader is xella. And i disregard the flash counters. When i boot up there is a red exclamation mark. I use the download mode when flashing a stock rooted xella firmware on my phone

Sent from my GT-I9300 powered by Omega Rom + Perseus Kernel + PhilZ touch Recovery
[Galaxy S III General] 101gamzer:
I have Fx1 am i safe ?
[Galaxy S III General] htcsnap93:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

No.

---------- Post added at 07:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:21 AM ----------

Yes
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Update 7 fix (presumably) started with ELLA.

XXEMA2 has it also.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
I'm just asking out of curiosity, in case anybody has an idea about such things:

We know that Sammy's update7 contains bits and pieces of Gingerbread code. This means one of two things: either the stock kernel is really messed up, or the source is outdated/invalid.

In case it's the latter, isn't Samsung literally breaking the law?
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

160 days are used.still no problem I have installed patch on 148day, no freez, lag or any things faulty.i think im little lucky.
[Galaxy S III General] alishankiti:
Constant Freezes vs SDS

I was confused between sudden death and constant freezing. My S3 started freezing daily after the 4.1.2 update. I thought it had to do with the sudden death syndrom, since the nasty memory chip is present in my device. I was on XXELLB + Perseus kernel + philz recovery, but still freezes kept occuring at least 6-10 times daily. And once they start, they seem to accelerate.

I have fixed this problem by rolling back to ZSDLK2 (4.1.1) and I can confirm, freezes are completely gone. Note that I am still on Perseus + Philz in order to stay safe from SDS,

I do understand that 4.1.2 has the fix for the Exynos security bug, but for me at least, 4.1.2 cannot be my daily driver, even completely stock and unrooted. Seems to me Samsung wiped this fast to fix the security issue without enough testing.

I hope Samsung fixes this soon.

BR
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Damn!! Maybe true :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] DroidSensei:
Thank you very very much for your advice!!

Now I changed kernel and recovery, so I'm safe (I hope ;) )
[Galaxy S III General] SimonCraddock:
Stock firmware (the latest UK version) and this morning my S3 is dead :(

Hoping for a quick repair time, my work revolves around having my phone to hand.
[Galaxy S III General] :
How old is your phone? Is it rooted?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

All 4.1.2 seem to be update 7, although I think update 7 was a linear process as XXELLA was first to have exynos fix.

All 4.1.2 kernels have the VTU00M fixes. Update 6 did not include this. No 4.1.1 kernels have VTU00M Fixes.

So my belief is a big update (7) happened to Support the 4.1.2 framework but smaller updates happened before the source was released after XXELLA
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is there some people saying their phone died on the safe stock rom

Don't you confirm ? Why do you ignore this cases ?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Who are you talking to? Why do all your posts seem to be rude?

Nothing is ignored. No one has backed up any claims. There are far fewer reports than before "safe" kernel released.

So 99.5% of sds happen before update 7 fixes.

0.5% happen after fixes.

We still do not know the true nature of the problem. Whether it is instant or accumulated. I think its the latter given my own experiences. If that is correct, its expected to still see some sds. If not, small amount means nothing.
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

My posts aren't rude !

I just worry about this situation.

If there is some dead phone even after upgrade to safe Rom + kernel + ... so tell us to change our phone.

Sorry, I mean that nothing else.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
I'm guessing you aren't very comfortable with English - that's why your posts appear to be "rude". It's just "syntax" :p When you say, "why don't you confirm?" it sounds condescending and as if you're blaming the person. Instead you could phrase it, "could you confirm?" and not offend anybody!

Also, if you're asking somebody in particular, either reference them like this: @siayash, or quote their message and write directly below it. Otherwise nobody will know whom you're talking to.
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Ya, I am not a native english and sorry for my english.

Thank you for your suggestions. I will do them :)
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Hello all,

New S3 user.

I am on latest XXELLC 4.1.2

:)
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
And you decided to choose the Sudden Death thread to introduce yourself. How ominous.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
well no. but i was just mentioning that I am on the latest firmware. :angel:
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
And that's out-of-the-box? Brilliant - you're the first true test case :p
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
I never said it's out of the box. stop bashing me.

local service center updated it.:cowboy:
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Hmm, didn't mean to. Unfortunately anyone who reads the top two quotes will end up inferring that!
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Seems some user on this thread are getting on edge about SDS ehh lol.....
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

They should buy phones with warranty :)
[Galaxy S III General] nightwing90:
Currently My Firmware is XXELLA(UK 4.1.2).also heard about Galaxy S3 Sudden Death Issue.Me read some where in sammobiles that XXELLA is free from this issue is this true?? or is there any other option???

Thanks in Advanzzzz
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Read post 1 please
[Galaxy S III General] joarangoe:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Any news on a fixed bootloader or download mode that does not mess with the TA counter?

GT-I9300 w Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
We don't have the ability to change bootloaders.
[Galaxy S III General] padraigdoran:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Not sure if related to signs of SDS or Philz Recovery but when I try to flash a CM10.1 nightly, it nearly always fails the first couple of go's. I reflashed Phil's recovery, by using the recovery, but still the same issue. The exact same zip will eventually flash. Strange thing is that after the flash is successful, random apps are deleted and I've to use Titanium to restore them. Any ideas if it's linked to this, that it doesn't flash sometimes?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Since we don't really know for a fact what the fault is, we don't know for a fact what symptoms there are. This is the first I've heard of this. If you get SDS, please do come and let us know.
[Galaxy S III General] padraigdoran:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I started noticing the phone crashing apps, rebooting itself, etc even though I'm on the safe versions. My phone was purchased Dec 2011 and has the affected firmware. I'll keep you informed here if I discover more.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Out of the 30 million plus Galaxy S3 sold do most of the Gt-I9300 (16GB) have the OxF1 firmware it would seem they would all be the same until the newer ones released with OxF7 can anyone put some input plz