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[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gedster314:
The Note 1 had the same issue with early ICS leaks. I'll just do what I did with it, ignore it and keep using the phone how I see fit. I'll keep an eye out for a work around but I'm not gonna worry about it. Kind of like the flu, 30-40 out of 300 million die from it a year. Sucks when its you but chances are you will be fine.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whit3h4wks:
Can anyone post the official firmware version in which Samsung has fixed the SDS
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ketani73:
I just updated my Note 2 to JB v4.1.2 , never had a slightest idea that even this phone is subject to SDS !!!

After updating to 4.1.2 , is there still a chance of SDS for my Note 2 ??
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soljakid:
If its under warranty you can send it to samsung (like me) sucks having to send a 3 day old note 2 into service. It was so young.

Guess its better it happened early when im still protected than it being much further down the line.

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I dont think there is an official patch as of it from samsung. Persius (i think thats how you spell it) has a new kernel (v31.2) which addresses the issue 'temporarily'
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krwkenn:
Type: MAG4FB

FwRew: 0xf7

Model: SGH-I317M
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jon1011:
How about in my case...

I got my phone from gray market, it only has a store warranty NOT a samsung warranty.

Do I have my phone covered for this brickbug?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _delice_doluca_:
As long as the store is in your country they are bounded by the loaw of your country. So it does not matter where you have bought it.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soljakid:
I was led to believe all brand new samsung devices came with one year manufacture's warranty from date of purchase?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Do we have any reports that the Galaxy Note 2 is also affected? All I know is that this is quite rampant on the SGS3 and not on the Note 2 yet.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] el_roy1985:
I think this is how I'll go about it. I really don't think it is as big of a problem as everyone is making it out to be.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _delice_doluca_:
If I remember correctly there is tiny firmware inside of the eMMC too. This little piece of software defines what this unit is for and how it works so it can become a memory for our devices. And this software has also its versions and updates. It is most likely that Samsung has noticed there was a problem with the first version of the software on the eMMC but still they decided to release the phones to the market because HTC One X was getting bigger on the quad core market.

So, the exact way to solve the problem is completely erase the eMMC to the last bit of data and then erase the partition and then install it with the new eMMC software. This is not like flashing with Odin. This is too dangereous for us customers to do at home because if anything goes wrong then Samsung is left with another device to replace. Considering more than 20 million of SGS3 and 5-10M Note 2s are sold that is big risk for Samsung. So they have chosen to rush it to market and kept it quiet getting ready to change the faulty ones because the amount of them was very little compared to all phones they have produced. So it was easier than letting millions to try a risky software on their phones.

I can tell this story because the "patch" on the kernel is working "only" when it detects the tiny eMMC softwares date is something at march (not the production date, the softwares date). Probably the new bootloader thing was to prevent people from trying to flash experimental fixes because they did not want any chaos about it and finally the patch arrived. Probably it will lenthen the phones life as much as it could and slowly the faulty ones will die in the end. But it will not happen at the same time and when the phone is still young so Samsung will not be blamed that much.

Since that software is very old compared to Note 2s release date probably most -almost all- of the Note 2s are safer.

But what am I talking? You know this is Samsung. They plan, design and create the best but they forget to check if it works!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soljakid:
Sounds like what happened to me lol, I ended up with a faulty device and only 3 days into it's life it died. Sent the thing off on Thursday, so should hear back from them tomorrow, and I will be asking them what actually causes this, if indeed the eMMC chip.

Guess i was one of the unlucky ones, Do you think they would mearly change the eMMC chip or motherboard or replace the device completely?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbreyes:
What about mine i only have a service warranty. N7100 Titanium Gray Phone model: t03gxx eMMC: VTU00M Fw: 0xf7 11/2012

Do my unit already safe from SDS thing?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ionutzm05:
You are the first one with N7100 safe :).
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maestrochiller:
Help

When i got my phone i had an update the same day...that was the latest firmware. So i was on firmware 4.1.2, but yesterday SDS struck my phone down. I rooted it, but it doesn't do anything at all and i still had stock kernel...But just so you know, the update to 4.1.2 doesn't secure anything

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That is not true.. My phone is rooted, but apart from that is has stock 4.1.2, and yesterday my phone died from sudden death (i think, it has the exact symptoms like only the proximity sensor red light as the only signs of life..) So i don't think the stock 4.1.2 is safe :(

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I have 4.1.2 with custom recovery (twrp) and my phone died yesterday..i think you indeed need custom kernel and custom recovery
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tainka:
so 4.1.2 is not safe?

i'm on omega 14, latest twrp and latest perseus. will my phone die?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 54NJ41:
hi guys sorry for the noob question, i am planing to buy a note 2, is this SDS only for 16gb, if i buy a 32gb do u thing i will be safe
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jigc:
Hi. Thanks for your info. Very explicit.

I have some quick question.

How much time went through since you made your update and your phone died?

When did you made your update (in which date more or less)?

Could it be that your 4.1.2 update was previos to version DLL7?

Thank you again.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goenne:
Insane chip....

Hell need to replaced :(
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaurav2009:
one question:- if binary counter is 0 and device status is custom or modified am i under warranty and in this situation will samsung replace the dead sds phone?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jigc:
Sorry, there is no replacement for the Chipet. Update to Stock ROM 4.1.2.Install Kernel Perseus Alpha31 or Higher (other Kernels are also Valid...Redpill, etc. Just check the they have the SDS fix on it). Instal also latest version of TWRP to fix the recovery kernel. .......And pray
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForbEx:
If it's dll7 then yes, root cannot do sds, don't worry root it :rolleyes:

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[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LostBeagle:
Just got my Note 2 back from the Samsung service centre.

It was rooted and ran a custom rom Revolution HD 6 with perseus kernel.

10 days ago is went black. symptoms like SDS ... only the faint red led flash when the on/off button was pressed.

I was not able to unroot or put the stock rom back on or whatever. It was dead.

A lot was replaced the guy told me, although it doesn't make much sense to me ...:

ic-mcp

cbf coaxial cable-mhf ii

assy etc-if sub fpcb ass

a/s assy-pba main comm g

assy module-spk+rubber a

It was repaired under warranty.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koalauk:
Sometimes in order to level stock levels they claim some parts replaced on the paper work as this to due with rework parts either or black stock. Most likely they just replaced main pcb assy.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [dcw]aaron:
are there any reports on note 2's with FwRev 0xf7 that got affected by the SDS?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
i am going to get note 2 soon i want to ask how much test memory blocks is needed to be checked?(under test memory)?

as we know it require root but in case when if it is note rooted how can i check? i mean if chip is not insane how important is memory blocks?do i also need to check memory? what can it cause? what is this?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] remedya:
It's not sensible to buy the Note 2 whilst this SDS problem exists. Buy HTC or Apple.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForbEx:
This is not place for helps as this!!! :eek:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] el_commandante:
I really don't think it's such a big deal. First of all while there is no official data about how many devices are affected, it's surely a very small percentage. Second, even if your device it's affected it'll most likely be replaced under warranty if it dies. Keep in mind that it's usually really unhappy people who experienced serious problems with their devices who write here. This creates a very skewed impression of what the real situation is.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goenne:
hi nicholes,

as i know, no need to check the memory block, just make sure you have a good chip then you safe. good chip means no sds CMIW
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badril81:
Giggle :D:D
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adytum:
It's not like Sds is a catastrophe never seen before on any device. It's probably a really small portion of users who actually get Sds. Software patch to fix a hardware issue is neither anything new.

This is more about a clever development community spotting the errors and fixing it before Samsung. I have my issues with Samsung as a company, but I can't imagine any other manufacturer going public with an apology like that either, simply wouldn't happen.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gamesz2:
hey guys..

i have the same chip as in OP ..

but i have never problems . the phone works perfect i use jellybam newest version .

i was wondering how you get the syndrome is it when you flash something or is it a suprise ???

sorry for my english
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodrigoyasuda:
Most people only have issues after 5~6 months. (from what I've seen in the sds threads)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gamesz2:
okeej then i have 3 months 2 go 0.0 i hope it stays working
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] el_commandante:
Well, my problems started almost exactly after 4 months and there are a couple of other people over at a German android forum, where I participate sometimes, who also started having problems after 4 months. The problem with all this is that while the symptoms are the same I'm still not sure we're all suffering from SDS...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
hi guys! what's your opinion about him?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badril81:
U should be ok :thumbup:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gamesz2:
why you think that ... :0
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goenne:
just wait for 4 days to make sure samsung service replce my motherboard. hopefully they do....
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mancuk29:
My phone needs a new motherboard - it started going mega slow and the s pen was going all kinds of strange things

I was on 4.1.2 on BTU unlocked uk handset

Took it into Samsung repair centre and they tried a reflash which failed 3 times so off to Sammy 3rd level for new motherboard

not good 5 months old, never done out unofficial always used proper Samsung updates and not flashed via odin etc

also never routed and it still dies !

Very unhappy
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koalauk:
This is getting a bit worrying now so are we saying 4.1.2 has sds issues after ll7?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aka_sirok:
Well AFAIK the words that the one who found that "fix" were something like "there is a reference to (the afected chip) when I unpacked de update"(something similar)

I am also afected and i dont think that they are going to say something about it and also they are not going to say it because the s4 presentation is today so if they say that some high class devices have that problem the solds will die.

Coming back to the issue

Does anybody knows if the fix in the recoverys and kernels are true? Or they are using what it could be that posible fix?

I'm not saying that we have bad developers or something similar, they are incredible, im just asking if someone really knows if this is a fix or a copy from the "fix" made by samsung.

enviat desde el meu GT-N7100 //*//
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larry_thagr81:
Can anybody verify if the Verizon wireless Galaxy Note II is affected?

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Pratically every response seems to be coming from a user of the GT-N7100 version.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vagsvag:
Ha ha ha, no way guy, apple, nice joke.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] remedya:
My Note came back today from Phoneland in Bicester who had sent it to Samsung UK for repair. It now has the sane chip. eMMC check reports:

Type: VTU00M

Date: 11/2012

FwRev: 0xf7

It has v4.1.2 DMB2/DLK7

Just to recap, this is the BTU version bought in October 2012 in the UK running stock 4.1.1 until it died whilst on charge overnight.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fab0123:
By reading this thread it seems sds is also occuring on devices with the latest 4.1.2 updates from samsung.

Am I wrong?

If this is the case, sgn2 with 0xf1 don't have any sds fix ...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larry_thagr81:
It also seems to be happening only on international versions a well.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForbEx:
I think fix is working... I have 0xf1 with fix for over 3 months and nothing to see look like sds..

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[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tainka:
This is insane, maybe a small amount with this chip affected? There are milions of devices with the insane

chip, they cant all die, right???
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estugarda:
Why not? Sure they can. The problem is huge no matter what Samsung and fanboys say. You have to look at this from the other viewpoint. If there are so many reported SDS cases here, think about how many unreported cases occured in general. Most people probably don't know what sds is. They just bring the phone back to Samsung and it seems that in most cases they get a replacement of some kind. As long as Samsung replaces sds killed devices, they will be safe. Once they stop, they could have a riot. I wonder what will happen when devices get out of warranty, and then die by sds!? If there will be many, and there could be, it could become a bigger problem than Samsung thinks. The point is; if they were about honesty they would've explained the situation already. Inspite of less sales.

I myself have a note2 with insane chip. Using stock rooted 4.1.2 which is supposed to have a fix. I'm using it since December. No problems so far.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSK1:
Can someone confirm if this is the case?

I'm picking up my repaired phone tomorrow.

I think they are just replacing the motherboard.

If the software fix doesn't work...

Then I want to ask for a replacement phone.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estugarda:
Some people will tell you it has the fix, but nobody knows for certain. The only one who really knows is Samsung, and they will say nothing.

If I didn't need a n7100 for a specific reason, I'd go for anything else but Samsung and Apple.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] el_commandante:
As the post you quoted says, there have been several reports, read above. How do you want anyone to confirm otherwise?

The eMMC chip is on the motherboard and you may end up with a different version/revision of it, which is what you want. Even if you do get the same chip though, I don't think we have proof that ALL phones with this chip are affected and die because of SDS. Also since Samsung and their partners haven't really admitted the problem officially yet, I highly doubt that simply having the same chip on an otherwise fully functioning phone will get you a replacement. So chill out, enjoy your phone and worry about it when you're actually having problems with it.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodrigoyasuda:
If you have this chip and revision and don't use the fix you're in trouble.

Most people don't even bother to look for updates in their devices and don't even know Kies exist, so they will never get a fixed firmware.

I really do believe most of them will die.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sms2000:
As I understand only the f1 chips from a certain production date are faulty. Not everyone...

At least the samsung sds fix is applied when a specific date read from a register.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doschico:
Samsung junk phone

Had an international UK model Note 2 that crapped out randomly. Sent it to Mobiletechvideos and they said it was SSDS (Samsung sudden death syndrome). I sent the thing to the UK repair center and they wont repair/replace it. After many phone calls they keep telling me that it has to be repaired in the USA and Samsung USA said send it to England.

I feel robbed and I'm giving up on Samsung.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tainka:
I'm on omega 14, latest twrp and perseus kernel :) hope I'm safe :)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] delsian:
Got it

I bought my note2 in november and till Fabruary 5th it was running as it should. That was a day when it died while on charge. Wondering what happend I learned about SDS trouble. Found out I was using that faulty chip all this time and didn't know about update. Bad luck and $320 for motherboard exchange.. repaired now with the same old revision.Day one. Still works.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] el_commandante:
What? No warranty? Why did you have to pay for it? :confused:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForbEx:
Yes, you are.

Sent from Galaxy Note 2 via paid Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSK1:
How can I check if they replaced the dodgy chip?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
I guess you couldn't be bothered to read the OP?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSK1:
Oops.

Done the test. ..

Insane chip.

Have the latest software so hope I am okay now.

No root so can't check anything further.

Worried about what would happen after warranty expires though....

How possible is it to get a replacement phone off I explain?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
Are you in the EU law? EU law covers you for up to 5 years for a design flaw like this, or up to 2 years for regular electronic device faults.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSK1:
I am in UK.

But presumably only if they acknowledge problem.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForbEx:
Use app at first page

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[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uphurryup:
Can someone confirm the service-verified existence of sds with rom above LL7?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
The law doesn't care if they do or not. If it's a component that's commonly known to be faulty, they're liable.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetuk437:
I've been having random resets and lockups for two weeks now, am I on the slippery slope to SDS?

My chip type is,

Type: VTU00M

FwRev: 0xf1

I am on an un-rooted, stock ROM 4.1.2 XXDLK7

Would a custom ROM save me?

(just worried that if I flash a ROM and it dies anyway...)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
How can i check if the chip has been changed or not in a used phone?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetuk437:
Read the first post.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ForbEx:
Sds is coming...

Sent from Galaxy Note 2 via paid Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
i know and i have read the first post

that clearly shows how to check emmc (by installing an app from google play)

so my is not "how can i check emmc version"

BUT my question is...

How may i find out if motherboard (chip) is repaired or not in a used phone?

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Hi all

I have started a new Poll thread about sds

please vote here
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
...By running the app in the OP... They cannot "repair" the chip. It either has the faulty chip, or it has a different chip. It's not complicated... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetuk437:
Most of your posts are in this thread, so I assume you have been following things closely,

any advice?

About Device is reporting;

Version 4.1.2

Baseband Version N7100XXDLK7

Build Number JZ054K.N7100XXDMB2

Kies is reporting current firmware version is; PDA:MB2 / PHONE:LK7 / CSC:MA5 (XXX)

Last firmware update was last month OTA

Question is, which number do I look at to tell which update I have?

And does it have an SDS fix built in?

If not, what should I do?

(new kernel? New ROM? Both?)

.

----------------EDIT---------------

Done a bit of reading round, and I gather it's the Build Number not the Baseband Version I should be concerned with. My build number is XXDMB2 (which it turns out was released start of March for UK). Does this build protect me, seeing as my symptoms started just about the time of the update?

Initially, I thought it was the update that was causing the symptoms and tried a factory reset, not realising that the firmware is NOT reset when you do that.

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You are not being clear as to your situation.

There is nothing you can see on the phone that will tell you this, you must run the app.

So, if you have the second hand phone in your hands, download and run the app.

If you are buying the phone, get the vendor to do it for you and report.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
but according to this post #412

i thought his phone came back from repair?

and this man is also talking about repair
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadgetuk437:
The chip itself cannot be repaired. They can repair the phone by replacing the board with the affected chip on it.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [dcw]aaron:
if you guys could just back read..all infos are already posted in this thread..it's becoming redundant to answer same questions over and over again..
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
I know you're new here and all, but geez dude... It's not rocket science! Try thinking a little first, yeah?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anetgrup:
Im on DMB2/DLK7 and Type- VTU00M FwRev: 0xf7 the SDS is present on this chip?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodrigoyasuda:
0xf7 doesn't have the SDS problem
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badril81:
Yahuuuu :cool:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anetgrup:
No SDS in this version? Iam very happy.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goenne:
Just back from samsung repair center. They Didn't change the board. Just installing a new update.. still hang when browsing or opening file from extsdcard.

Wtf they thingking about. They playing with my time and passion.