yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] frrndr75:
ok I mess with the bootloader and ICS TA was normal phone thanks to all! a question what are the risks of having the ICS bootloader?

else in case you want to return with enough flash with odin bootloader jb FW and hard reset?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Risk is sds in download mode, as stated in post 1
[Galaxy S III General] frrndr75:
ok thanks, so put the JB bootlaoder enough to use odin with original FW JB?
[Galaxy S III General] deutsh:
what i have to do

after all the replies wich posted here ....i comfused:confused: what i shoud to do .....i have GT-N7100 international version with JB 4.1.1 should i update to JB 4.1.2. or not ...please advise me about that.:mad:
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
The first thing you should do is learn that you are posting in the wrong forum.
[Galaxy S III General] ali4796:
Following my post on Samsung Developers Web page:

Samsung Galaxy S 3 - sudden death problem

The developer has Edited his last reply as an Official Statement:

Edit:

Here is an official statement:

We have been releasing a software update to address the firmware issue.

We are working to ensure that the software update will be available at the earliest possible time in all countries.

We would like to assure our customers that we remain fully committed to providing a seamless mobile experience.
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
That's a good bit of news, but don't be surprised if Sandung continues to deny all knowledge of this issue.

I wonder what firmware this guy is talking about, or if it's already here.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

So it looks like he investigated, eventually found someone who knew about it and posted.

I suggest everyone with warranty not being accepted should also link to that thread
[Galaxy S III General] frrndr75:
hello I would like to understand one thing the bootloader ICS (first post "Bootloader For Those Who want to keep custom counter at 1") I flash from what you said the only problem in download mode and this far ok.

demand, and inside there are 3 files in apboot, param.bin, sboot.bin, tz.img if I take any original FW JB I open it with 7z I find these I find these files except of the param.bin. the specific question I can replace the files to flash bootloader JB?
[Galaxy S III General] realstiner:
need help!

Guys,

just heard about the SDS and I'm worried.

I checked the first page of this post, and checked my ROM kernel.

It's the XXELL4, but what do I have to do now?

Please help?
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You have to flash a more recent firmware. Read post 1 of this thread.
[Galaxy S III General] realstiner:
Thanks, but I'm not that great in technical details.

Where do I have to get the recent firmware? Official Android site?
[Galaxy S III General] BossStang:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/ & here on xda.

There are lots of guides to using odin if you search a little.
[Galaxy S III General] realstiner:
I have Android-Version: 4.1.2

As I checked on the website, it's the latest one available, so that means I'm good?

Thanks for the help guys!
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Xella4 is newer or xellac???
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
SEARCH is easy .

Base Firmware: I9300XXELL4 (4.1.2)

Region: Europe

Country: United Kingdom

Carrier: Unbranded

Build Date: 10 December 2012

Base Firmware: I9300XXELLC (4.1.2)

Region: Europe

Country: Spain

Carrier: Unbranded

Build Date: 28 December 2012

Base Firmware: I9300XXEMB5 (4.1.2)

Region: Europe

Country: United Kingdom

Carrier: Unbranded

Build Date: 25 February 2013
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
There is no XELLA4 or XELLAC

There is XXELL4 and XXELLC though

XXE = Doesn't matter to tell which is newest,

LL4 = YearMonthRevision

L = 2012 / M = 2013

L = December, A = January, B = February

4 = Revision 4, 5 = revision 5, (1-9 then a-z)

So XXELL4 and XXELLC are Both 2012, December...

1-9 then a-z..... 4 comes before c, so XELL4 is older.
[Galaxy S III General] deutsh:
wrong forum ?:confused: did you know that GSIII and G Note 2 both they have same eMMC vtu00m:rolleyes:....the problem is same:good: and i heard that stock 4.1.2 solve that bug:rolleyes: ..... did you know that ? ;)
[Galaxy S III General] BossStang:
Dont know if there is any 4.1.2 without the fix but i would recommend atleast XXELLA or newer because of the exynos exploit security fix.
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yes we know that but don't think flashing S3 kernals or roms is the answer for you.

Np nedd to roll the eyes he was correct in what he said
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Reply to JJEgan

Base Firmware: I9300XXELLC (4.1.2)

Region: Europe

Country: Spain

Carrier: Unbranded

Build Date: 28 December 2012

It's indian firmware..cause i am using it. i dnt knw abt spain. Search is easy...... ;)
[Galaxy S III General] deutsh:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Please Don't misunderstand me. I just ask... o.k. let's me change the quastion; (Did samsung release a stock kies rom wich can able to solve the SDS problem in SGSIII. or not .
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yes. You don't need to ask this question. Its all answered in post 1
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
I guess it is now time to update the original post regarding emmc brickbug checker app. This app is just updated to 1.4.4 for supports for S3 and Note 2. And it seems it now correctly detects if the chip is sane or not.

For example, mine is of 0xf1 revision and VTU00M type (just passed its seven months milestone today :) ). Therefore it is SDS affected and hence has an insane emmc chip. Now that eMMC brickbug app updated it now detects my phone as an insane chip which it could not earlier.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It's really not important. The app looks at:

VTU000M yes/no?

0xf1 yes/no?

S3 yes/no?

If all 3 are yes it says insane. Well we know we have s3 so its not important if the app can now "detect" that.
[Galaxy S III General] zoomaj:
Sudden death!

Guys I need some help please!

I have experienced sudden death just after 150 of owning my device !

It just switched off and thats it gone! I bought the phone of gumtree, so don't have proof of purchase!

What can I do? I am from the UK

, please anyone who has been in this situation help!
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Not much except ask Samsung service centre to repair .

I don't believe Samsung allow second user warranty but am not 100% sure on that .

UK Warranty repair is the vendors responsibility Samsung warranty is a limited extra warranty .

Are you sure its SDS .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] zoomaj:
Sudden Death

hello

thanks for your prompt reply,

im pretty sure it is, i was on a call with the phone to my ear, the proximity sensor turns of the screen, after the call when the took the phone away from my ear, the screen never came back on! i took the battery out and put it back in still nothing, i had 54% battery, i came home and plugged it in the charger, no charger light nothing, after an hour still nothing, plus the phone was cold, normally when it charges it lights up and the phone does get warm, which then led me to believe that there is no actual current running through the phone and it is Sudden Death,

i have asked the guy off gumtree to check for the reciept,

do u know how much samsung charge for the repair?

or plan B buy a s3 motherboard off ebay and replace it my self?

thanks for your help so far, this is the first piece of tech that i cannot fix! i cannot believe this has happened on such an expensive device!

plus i was running android 4.1.1 so i know the exynos exploit was not patched,
[Galaxy S III General] MaxOfS2D:
I have the latest official update, wiped my phone etc.

freezes are still happening, sometimes to an insane extent (happens right after I turn on the phone, first button I press)

it generally freezes / random reboots twice per day and it's really annoying

what can I do?
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Most likely you don't have the latest available. Try flashing XXEMB5

(see stock firmwares thread)
[Galaxy S III General] MaxOfS2D:
Is this correct?
[Galaxy S III General] abelrhd:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

No. Your version it's different.

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

As per me its latest. Ma2 right??
[Galaxy S III General] MaxOfS2D:
Interestingly the stock firmwares thread is not listing the one I have installed.

The only one which is more recent than the one I have installed (in terms of date) is the UK one, and something's telling me I shouldn't flash the UK firmware if the one that my phone updated to was the France one
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

The only issues you may have by flashing a different zone fw (well they're both European fw) is csc codes and different modem firmwares. Both can be changed without much effort (changing csc with the app from the play store wipes your device).
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
UK one may be a multi |CSC and you don't need CSC for phone to work in any location / network .

Stock firmware thread lists few not all of stock roms .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] veteran_troller:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is omega rom v43.1 enough for fixing all issues of galaxy s3 like sudden death and exynoss ?

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Read post 1
[Galaxy S III General] :
Update 8 question

Hello Guys,

i read for a long time some ideas from developers to fix sds like:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2096045&page=9

it seems implements in the sources at:

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/3536d5c6bfd05e861b3b430d4de36fdf31afa5e1

The correct link is https://github.com/temasek/android_...mmit/da93ee8a6378c6f364c251c17ac14b93f6e3837d

I've read also some threads about last samsung update 8 release...

Please do you know if update 8 is it based on this work or not ?

Many thanks for comments

Tony
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Thats video....
[Galaxy S III General] :
Only a piece of work ?

Tks
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Sorry?

I don't know what you mean but you linked us to a mali (video chip) commit in the Cyanogen S3 kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] :
ok sorry I misunderstood, but do you know if the project from oranav to update

the firmware directly in the chip is rights or if update 8 is only like a kind of wathcdog for the emmc ?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
All I *think* I know is that update 8 sources have a better way to address SDS. I don't really know anything more than that.
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Are the current ROMs, like XXEMB5, etc. based on update 8?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I'm not sure tbh. I assume so. I doubt 4 2.x are update 8 because its not like samsung to release source before the roms are released.
[Galaxy S III General] KusakaKyo:
This thread was trully helpful, thanks rootSU for the info, also i haad already installed the Siyah Kernel that specified the fix for the SDS, but do i have to keep that kernel from now on??, or is it just one install and then fixed perhaps??, also i wonder if anyone of u know if the Siyah kernels have the fix after the one that specified that it had it ... Im uncertains since all of the newer ones dont specify it ... Anyways, im sorry if i went off topic, but i was just curious :P
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

That version + all the newer ones. Its a change log you're looking at. It only lists changes. All newer versions include older changes unless specified
[Galaxy S III General] a_prabhu7:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I have the VTU00M 0XF7 in my s3 is this affected chip?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Post 1:
[Galaxy S III General] fourty.saver:
R: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Which program you use to know the chip and etc?

Sended by DivoracaoS3
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check&hl=en
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
It's in post 1!!!
[Galaxy S III General] mkhawx:
Was this death issue because of S3's hardware chip or just samsung kenel??
[Galaxy S III General] saprer:
The sudden death issue comes from the EMMC chip ( hardware ) of the Galaxy S3.

but not all S3's are effected with that faulty chip.

Samsung pushed a update ( fix) for it but we ( XDA) dont know if it saves the phone 100% from SDS
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
Because of the firmware of their eMMC chip.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I want to say something. If you guys are not getting any freezes or hangs and if u r on 4.1.2 then ur emmc is yet not corrupted and probably will not get corrupted due ro fix present in 4.1.2 also freezez are experienced bye those whose phones are little too old and ran more on 4.1.1 or ics. So chill guys.

Also if u search Google u will find all sudden death issues are posted and dated on jan 13. After that all articles having hardly any activity. So issue is most probably fixed. :cool:;):)
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
I don't know what you're talking about. I had a replacement motherboard with the same eMMC firmware and my 4.1.2 still froze so your reference to "little too old" doesn't really mean much.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Well can u explain froze neans exactly where. In which app or randome. For how much time. U r not using i7 with gtx titan and 16 gig of ram. C'mon.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You're too funny. Please don't use my thread to practice stand up comedy.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I was just pointing out that a liitle freez is accepted. Its a phone. Also I got my s3 second hand. 3 months old that time. I dnt even knw the x owner. I got it through friend. When I got this it was already on 4.1.2 xxellc back from service center. Resone was x user fcuked wid the sim slot. Told by my friend. Not sure what was real reason. :confused:

It was a golden deal. So I baught it. But since then I never had such issues. Point is that x user must used this on ics or 4.1.1 but still it got updated on time before its too late. What u say???
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Freezes introduced as a bi-product of sds fix. Can last 30 seconds or 25 minutes. No freezes on 4.1.1

Only users with VTU00M 0xf1 have freezes, and even then, not all
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

My phone is now more than 4 months old. I guess it will be intact. Also sgs4 also must have such issues like sudden distroy. Sudden burst. Sudden kaboom... .. haha......
[Galaxy S III General] gunesekosan:
a question about leak 4.2.1.

according to a local forum that i've read from, some devices which has leak (4.2.1) had a sudden death.is it true? if so it is so absurd!
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I've seen no evidence of 4.2.1 sds on xda or af.

Someone said the leak doesn't have the fix. I'd like to see evidence to support that please
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
In the dev thread, there was a discussion of field updating the firmware for the eMMC. Is this possible, or are we getting closer to it? Seems to me that if the eMMC for the impacted revisions are updatable, it would be a small price to pay even if a factory reset was required to accomplish it.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I wouldn't want to comment on the possibility of that as its outside my technical understanding at this time. If you've got any links to info on it, I'd like to read it though.

Also as per my post just before yours, any links to the suggestion 4.2.1 doesn't contain sds fix would be greatly appreciated
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

The 4.2.1 beta leaks don't come with a specific kernel so maybe that has something to do with it but like Rootsu I have not read anything about SDS on the leaked version either
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
It came with a kernel, but no modem. I read here on the forum, unless I'm wrong, of member reports of SDS on the leak. I'll see if I can find it by search and post it here.
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
Since the sds fix was there starting from stock ELLA ROM and their associated kernels. I dont find any reason why the fix wont be there too in the leaked 4.2.1 fw. I had the rom (XXUFMB3) run for straight two weeks. Mine has an insane chip.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I have a dodgy a chip. Been running leak for a while no issues. No freezes either. The freezes reported to stop after MB2 I believe. Updated kernels since update 8 source?!
[Galaxy S III General] BossStang:
A percentage nr (which we never can get) would be interesting.. I meen they sold an anormous amount of this phone, a few thousands is a fart in space. mine is around seven months old and I have been using it realy heavy sins day one and its running perfect. (Fingers crossed) :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yes it would be interesting!
[Galaxy S III General] sherlock5545:
So that would mean it isn't certain that all the VTU00M 0xf1 chips are actually affected, right? Which might be the case with mine, as it has never shown any sign of SDS even before the fixes ever came.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Samsungs original code assumes they're all affected with that firmware revision. That's all we can say
[Galaxy S III General] fourty.saver:
R: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I hope so

Sended by DivoracaoS3
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If I charge my s3 overnight today will I get a dead s3 when I woke up?????
[Galaxy S III General] EViollet:
Highly unlikely.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I did not understand.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
un·like·ly

/ˌənˈlīklē/

Adjective

Not likely to happen, be done, or be true; improbable.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Ok. I still wondering what is the relationship of charging overnight and sudden death? ?
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Its answered in this very thread .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] EViollet:
As far as I understand there isn't any link.

People reported having a dead phone just by switching the screen off.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Well I cant read the whole thread. Its too big.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
The phone has a wakelock when on charge so it doesn't go to sleep.

This means at night (whilst on charge) the phone is at it's most active, meaning more chance to go wrong. When it is not on charge and not being used, it goes into deep sleep so less chance of going wrong.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Posts like that will get you blacklisted by the moderators. You can search within the thread on XDA, I'd recommend doing that.
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
There is just a small relationship.

Some few eMMC chips with firmware 0xf1 and unpatched kernel (<=4.1.1) tend to go defect after a amount of read/write operations. It needed some month (around 6) to get to this state.

When connected to the charger, the phone is often awake and some tasks like the media scanner are running. Some of there tasks are read/write intensive (picture thumbnail creation for example).

So statistical it would make sense that some more SD cases happened while on AC power. However, AC power was not the reason for the fault.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] toterkeks:
I Have the SGS3 also, althrough it's the I9300, but it says for me following:

Phone Model

Samsung GT-I9305 (??)

eMMC Chip

VT00M

12/2012

0xf7

Suggestions?
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
My suggestion is that you rejoice and be thankful, because your eMMC is "safe" from SDS.
[Galaxy S III General] ivan4o5:
If a half sudden death syndrom occurs and the device is running a custom rom / kernel , does the flash counter says 1,2,3 etc. ? Or just the usual no name , status : custom ?
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
If you're sure it's the I9300 then the app is buggy (since I have known about this app it has always been bug-infested). Either way, as long as you have the 0xf7 chip you're safe.

I think there's a way to check firmware manually too, it's written in a file somewhere.
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
The status itself has nothing to do with SDS directly. What matters is the kernel. A "safe" or "fixed" kernel is what should be used. The status counter is just Samdung's way of voiding your warranty for tinkering with your device.
[Galaxy S III General] ivan4o5:
Those Samsung guys knew about the bug all along ! ... They've made it themselves ! ... so thay can blame you for flashing your phone and not repairing it ... naaah , just kidding :D .

Edit : I am from Bulgaria (in the EU) ,so I gues they have to prove that I have ****ed up the phone , so I tink I can calmly flash new rom and kernel ... If they decline to repair it , well , I will explain thing or two :D
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Good luck with that Ivan. Many eu citizens tried and failed explaining
[Galaxy S III General] ivan4o5:
That is something that must be taken care of ... well thanks for the info !
[Galaxy S III General] jamal2367:
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=22639
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

What am I missing here?
[Galaxy S III General] BossStang:
I dont get it either?
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Probably galaxy siv launch live stream.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yes, its the relevance of that which has lost me...
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Oh, indeed. Maybe it will die of sds live!
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
How long till the Galaxy SIV thread on SDS pops up?

I didn't learn my lesson with the SII and bought the SIII, both had documented factory defects on the eMMC.

Wait for it.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Off topic but over so many days we've seen quite a few of us - the same people - active on various threads, just because we ended up buying S3s. Wonder if something similar will happen with the S4 buggers :p
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It's cause samsung makes damn cool phones that's why we keep buying them.... But it looks like the patch is working because the number of SDS is quiet low compared to earlier this year hopefully it stays this way It will give me more confidence to upgrade to S4
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Nah, I'm never getting an Exynos device again.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I know what you mean I live in the US so maybe i will go with the Snapdragon chip instead if they do that again this time.... But I do really enjoy having international phones it seems like the custom roms are better