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[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yes been following it looks promising, there are some amazing people on xda . Lets hope people don't flood the developers thread and get it closed. Just read it and don't comment.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I should have said that too it is a thread for DEVELOPERS ONLY just read and let them do what they do best.
[Galaxy S III General] migz012788:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hi :) what about the bootloader?

Sent from my GT-I9300 powered by Omega Rom + Perseus Kernel + PhilZ touch Recovery
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Correct
[Galaxy S III General] fourty.saver:
R: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It's right. My bootloader is the XXBLFB. I updated to XXELLA, but i've downgraded again to reset the flash counter.

Sended by DivoracaS3
[Galaxy S III General] nmsv:
I updated a while ago to the XELLA via download mode (odin). I'm all stock and no root. Do I have a problem?
[Galaxy S III General] :
If i root using chainfire root v6.4 and go ahead flash cyanogenmod 10.1 , will i be safe from this issue??
[Galaxy S III General] erikrh:
You're Safe... Please read the OP carefully.
[Galaxy S III General] sherlock5545:
You are covere, according to OP
[Galaxy S III General] nmsv:
I did but then there wasn't this new info regarding the bootloader. Thanks mate :)
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Bootloader stuff has been in op for weeks. Always look at latest updates section at top
[Galaxy S III General] crnkoj:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

How can I check which bootloader version I have? Got the phone used and just flashed philz recovery and anonorom with perseus kernel. Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Search for an app in play store called Android system info
[Galaxy S III General] migz012788:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

So my bootloader is xella. How was it??

Sent from my GT-I9300 powered by Omega Rom + Perseus Kernel + PhilZ touch Recovery
[Galaxy S III General] said_abush3leh:
great post

thanks
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Guys why to take so much tension !! Enjoy the phone & relax. warranty is there for u. Also if u visit this thread daily & u will get only tension thats it.

Chill.....

It is just a phone not ur life.

:)

Mine ver is XXELLC
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
because you were on XELLA when you rooted.
[Galaxy S III General] erto90:
Someone know if carbon rom got that fix in the kernel? Because we can only use that kernel and is impossible to change it atm..

If someone got knowledge to view if in the github is present something about that..

Github
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
Guys,I bought my gs3 4 and half months ago.More than a month ago,I updated to 4.1.2 and I'm currently running XXEMA2.So far,there're no symptoms of SDS(no freezes,charging problems etc).Do you think my device is no longer threated or there's still a chance for my gs3 to die ? I'm asking because I can't decide if I should root back or not.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

There's always a chance, no matter how small.

If you get full sds they can't tell you're rooted. If you get half sds, it will say you're rooted even if you're not.

Just use it as you want to
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
Good to know but why would it say I'm rooted even if I'm not ? I thought it's just a damage that happens to the emmc chip and got nothing to do with root access(unlike exynos exploit bug)
[Galaxy S III General] Razmab123:
Thanks

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Download mode has various status information. One of them being "System Status". When a half SDS happens, System status is set to "custom". This is also set to custom if you flash custom Kernels and recoveries.

When you get half SDS it sets it to custom probably because where it gets the info from to say it is official (not custom) is wiped out on the eMMC that just failed.
[Galaxy S III General] johan81:
I would love to take this as a fact, though, I have read that many people who have encountered the half SDS with that custom system status were obligated to pay for the repairs. I know this can be total bull, but still, this is a bit of a concern.

How do you know so sure?

Thanks for all your work rootSU!
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
ok i finally got my phone back from sammy and i flashed 4.1.1 and i have tried everything but the phone refuses to die. Any ideas how i could cause the SDS so i can finally get the damn thing replaced. I have already sent it 3 times to sammy all they did was reflash 4.1.2 and give it back to me.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

How do I know what for sure?
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
i think he means that a half sds causes the system settings to become custom. Even if that happens cant you just root the phone and run triangle away?
[Galaxy S III General] johan81:
I am sorry, I wasn't clear about what I was asking. Are you sure it isn't a problem that the half SDS shows that you have a custom phone for warranty? I have read that a few people still needed to pay for the repairs because the repair centers told them it wasn't covered by their warranty.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I never said it wasn't a problem. It is very much a problem. My point is don't let it put you off rooting because even if you don't root, if you get half sds, they still think you rooted. Then you had to live with an unrooted phone for nothing
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

No. The phone cannot be flashed and android cannot boot. You can't root without flashing and can't use triangle away without boot, and its all corrupt so there's nothing to reset anyway
[Galaxy S III General] johan81:
Ahhhh, that is even worse then! I actually put off rooting my phone because of that, but now I know it is bull crap that they do not want to repair it under warranty. That is good to know and I will just play the dumb customer (only applied to rooting, not warranty wise ;) ) if it ever happens to me, which I hope it does not.
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
Yeah but my arguement with the service center wouldn't be valid if I had a custom flash count unless if SDS increases flash counter too.A good workaround is to flash everything I need with cwm then flash stock recovery and reset counter because as far as I know,having a custom recovery keeps the flash counter at 1 even if its reset with triangle away.Thanks for the info :)
[Galaxy S III General] ironmanhr:
Just for community statistics, i have a 9300 back from june 2012, first batch ever produced, released with 4.0.4 rooted (CF Auto), then upgraded to 4.1.1 rooted (CF Auto), then again upgraded to XELL4 (Today XELLA) rooted (CF Auto) and NEVER had a slightest problem. Inside it has a crazy microcontroller but after a MMC storage check everything is OK. Just to send some positive vibe, don't worry, be SGSIII :cool:
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Half-SDS also resets the flash counter to No as well I think the best case would be a full SDS it bull that people are getting refused warranty for this system status problem when it's a well known fact..
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
Cool,I guess there's no harm in rooting and using a custom recovery then.Thanks !
[Galaxy S III General] fromanbr:
My friend installed root. How do I know which kernel it is installed and if it already has the fix?
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hey guys, my phone have the sane chip, no SDS but permanent and temporal freezes and restarts (without asking for pin)

I got a log for the last freeze I had and since here are people complaining about freezes and restarts too maybe somebody comes with an idea about the log I posted when the phone freeze for 25 minutes today. I posted here the log:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38242613

As you can see, there is no activity in log during the freeze. No emmc, no sectors errors, nothing. What could this be related to?
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Developers are working hard on this SDS problem... All we really know is what Rootsu has put in the first post maybe the phones experiencing freezing problems above XXELLA have corrupted emmc already and for those without freeze above LLA maybe they will be OK only time will tell..... Sorry my 3cents this SDS stuff sucks I live in USA and having international $600 phone very scary for warranty purposes...
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
What emmc have you got and what firmware revision then?
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I'm afraid to that this is related to the SDS too. However, isn't weird that even with a corrupt emmc, there is nothing in the log?

I was thinking to buy a 4g S3 months ago, but this was the reason stopped me : dealing with the warranty on other country, because we have no LTE version here either. Thanks God I bought here. Tomorrow will be on its way to service, but I'm scared the service will say the device is working just fine. I'm gonna include the log to prove them the phone is not okay, even if a local tech guy checked out already and confirmed a problem with it. Hope the phone will freeze when he test it. I can live 10 days without it...

I have the VTU00M, the sane revision.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
0xf7?

If so, then its not related to SDS. The other freezes people are witnessing is the SDS fix, preventing SDS - which is only triggered on VTU00M 0xf1 eMMC
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
It's the 0xf1 one.

Right now my phone is frozen again. The screen is black, turned off, the capacitive buttons are on, can't wake up the phone LOL.

Let's see if I can get a new log...

LE: The screen flashed like 500 ms and the phone turned off...no log this time...sigh
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
I think you should just downgrade to 4.1 and let it die,easier to prove than some freezes.That's what I'm going to do if I faced those unusual freezes.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
All 0xf1's are affected. There are no "sane" 0xf1. If you have VTU00M 0xf1, you could get SDS at any moment, unless you have one of the safe things from the OP.

The fact you use the word "sane" makes me think you're using the eMMC brick bug app. This is not to be trusted. It say's you're sane if you have VTU00M 0xf1 but it cannot recognise you have an S3. It looks at the build.prop to identify if you're on an S3 and if you are, changes the result. But some custom ROMs have edited build.props.

So yeah, VTU00M 0xf1 is SDS affected. NOT safe.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
If they send it back to me without fixing it I will do that for sure. It drives me crazy. The Samsung support guy told me that samsung plans to release a huge update with bug fixes and so, not the date isn't clear yet. He also told me to stay with the eye on the Barcelona events, next week, when I told him that I'm looking forward S4. If the S4 will not be out next week, I'm sure he is lying about the update too LMAO.

I'm gonna print that log and put it in the box with the S3, tomorrow when I send the phone to warranty. He can see clearly that the phone was dead during 25 minutes (no reboot or something else). I will pay $30 for the shipping to service and back to my house (since the phone will be send to level 1 support). Hope I haven't paid for nothing to get it back as now.

That says everything. If they will not fix it, I will take care to kill it myself or send it to Amazon. If Samsung can't deal with it, Amazon customer service will do it for sure. They told me that if I can't fix it, to call them and they will charge with everything
[Galaxy S III General] chaosking121:
So, is this as scary as the name leads me to believe? I have had random freezes, but only on AOKP ROMs after a few weeks without wiping. Wiping and flashing a new or updated ROM always made it stable again. The eMMC app from the OP reports I've got the crazy chip, but I have been running Siyah 1.8.7 almost exclusively since it was released. Been using Siyah Recovery as well and I don't use download mode to flash anything. Am I at any great risk? I know the OP says I shouldn't be, but the tone of the posts in the last few pages has got me worried. Also, no warranty, so double the trouble here.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
No warranty ? How that happened ? Gosh...it sucks. I still have mine until June 24 2014. I think only our phones knows when its time is over and should go retirement. Even if the last firmware fixed the issue, I guess our phones have been exposed enough (since June) to die now, even with the fixes. A wound leave scarf...doesn't them ? Even if I will not have the phone in my hands over 10 days, I still feel lucky.
[Galaxy S III General] fromanbr:
So.. Flashing a rom like RootBox JB 4.2.2 will fix SDS, right?
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

As long as the kernel includes the SDS fix from Samsung update 7, yes.
[Galaxy S III General] fromanbr:
I still prefer a rooted stock ROM.. I have TWRP installed. Is it possible just to flash any safe kernel?
[Galaxy S III General] atytse:
Many people seem to be affected by this (4.1.2) and I'm also experiencing phone freezing issues. It seems like one has to either update base firmware to the latest or just upgrade to 4.2 with another rom.

I'm trying out Rob's dummy generator fix as we speak.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Flash Perseus or Yank555 kernels for stock roms , they have the fix.

Remember that your emmc will still be flagged as insane even with the fix.
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
ok so if i have 4.1.1 what are the chances of getting a half sds and stupid samsung denying me warranty as opposed to a full sds?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Full sds is more likely IMHO.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

@RootSu so is full SDS the more common occurrence?

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Issue fixed.

Hello all,

Plz check below link. :good:

http://droidviews.com/2013/samsung-...or-galaxy-s3-to-fix-exynos-vulnerability-bug/
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Old Article says nothing new.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
I'm assuming you're travelling around in the T.A.R.D.I.S. and have no clue what day it is?
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
ok whatever. then why this thread is still alive. if the issue is fixed then leave the thread. why u people are giving tention to other people???:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Because not everyone has the fix or knows where the fix exists. The clue is in the thread title.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
ok. my ver is XXELLC (indian) so issue must be fixed right?

do i need to worry??
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Is it stock / Official or did you root it?
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
it is stock updated via kies last month. i never rooted the device.:cyclops::cowboy::D
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Its fine then.
[Galaxy S III General] timberwolf60:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

My phone not sds, but tourch screen no responded after rooted and upgraded to mb3 Singapore rom. Flash counter=1, Status official in download mode.

Have to send back to Samsung service center for repaired on screen and digitiser. Hope they don't charge me too costly.

Due to this experience, after root, done two things: 1) TA reset counter. 2) efs backup.

I have a feeling that Samsung new firmware updating when it detected your flash counter none zero, and it disabled the touch screen, then it will be end of flashing life. Because after cf auto root, my phone was no problems, after flashing to the larest firmware which I downloaded from sammobile, booted up with screen no response as shown:
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
okk wow. sigh of relief. Thanks buddy....:good::cyclops:;):cowboy::D:angel::)
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
i dont mean to dampen ure happiness but i am also from india and have the same update you do and my phone hangs like crazy which is what sammy has done to prevent the phone from dying. I have since then given the phone 3 times to samsung but they refuse to accept the actual problem and keep giving the phone back to me and all they do is flash 4.1.2 again on it. I am now trying a different approach and trying to kill my phone so i can get the motherboard replaced and hopefully get one without the faulty chip.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Hmm but my phone never hanged or rebooted. U wont belive but my phones uptime is 576:6 means 24 days.
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Total nonsense i agree with Samsung .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
whats that supposed to mean?
[Galaxy S III General] dave4bren:
Mine had the sudden death... took it in to CarPhoneWarehouse and they sent it to there engineers, I didn't even buy it from their. It had the insane chip b4 it went... now it hasn't... They said they replaced the PBA (what ever that is)...

So the moral is try CarPhoneWarehouse, they fixed mine and the binary counter was on 6 as well but now its on 0 :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] rezapatel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I would believe, third party will be more luxurious in ignoring the root on the phones than Samsung directly. The reason I understand is because, the penalty will eventually be paid by Samsung and not the third party, and if it's in a batch of corporate / bulk claim from their partners they will never notice (because of volumes) or deny because the business relationship is more important.

My two cents..

Sent from my Galaxy S3
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Does the freezing indicate the start of SDS? Had it for the first time today.
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
yes the freezing means the sds fix is working and preventing ure phone from dying. If it freezes you need to leave it from 5 to 25 mins till it un freezes.
[Galaxy S III General] ottoajalah:
Hi everyone.

I bought my SGS3 international version GT-i9300 back in December 2012. I have some questions. But first I will give you the details of my phone.

GT-i9300

Android version 4.1.2

Baseband version:

I9300DXELK1

Kernel version:

3.0.31-836582

se.infra@SEP-97#1

SMP PREEMPT Tue Jan 15 14:17:21 KST 2013

Build number:

JZO54K.I9300XXEMA2

1. After researching a lot I noticed people complaining about Sudden Death Syndrome (SDS). Now....I have used that application from play store that lets me know if my chip is affected. Yes, it says that I have VTU00M and 0fx1 or so etc. Does this mean 100% that I am affected?

2. How do I get rid of this? Is it true the latest Jelly Bean 4.1.2 fixes this issue? Because 4-5 days ago I updated to 4.1.2 and I sure do hope it fixes the sudden death issue.

3. I noticed these articles regarding SDS that I found on Google were very active in early january, and now it is almost end of February, surely there must be a fix by now? What about those articles saying Samsung will release a fix? How long?

4. On the first page of this thread, it says "....It appears all 4.1.2 kernels have the fixes" I am on 4.1.2, does it mean I am safe? Also I have never rooted my phone, but is this relevant?

5. Also on the first page it says:

XXELKC

XXELL1

XXELL4

XXELL5

XXELL6

XXELLA

XXELLB

XXELLC

Mine is "Baseband version I9300DXELK1"

6. there are quite a number of articles on google saying the SDS has been fixed...but people here are still experiencing it....so, I am so confused. Maybe those articles are a fake?

7. rootSU said many times that "Update 7" actually fixes this SDS. What exactly is update 7? Also what is a kernel?

I truly apologize for asking too many questions, but at the same time I also am truly worried...with my mobile phone..it is only 2 months old, and I love it...but the SDS scares me.

Thank you very much, I appreciate any helpful reply. Thank you again.

Have a good day.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

To put it simple since your build is newer than the ones with the SDS fix it means you are safe. XXEMA2 is newer than XXELLC. Every build after those mentioned have the fix.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
1. It means your firmware is 100% faulty. That doesn't mean you're definitely going to experience SDS, just that you possibly could

2. Fix depends on the original issue, if it's related to wear, then applying a fix after significant usage will not be of much use (because, naturally, significant wear has already taken place). On the other hand if the bug is due to invalid references (basically terrible Sammy code), your device should not experience SDS after applying the fix

3. There is no official news from Samsung

4. If the OP says 'it appears' then... it appears so :) Jokes apart, being on 4.1.2 (or later) is the best you can do to prevent SDS

5. There's no question to answer

6. Read point 2

7. Android kernels have to be under the GPL license which means fully open source. So all manufacturers have to provide the source code for their kernels immediately as soon as devices with those kernels are released for usage. update7 was the kernel update which Samsung provided, which we think contains the eMMC failure fix (it definitely contains the Exynos exploit fix)
[Galaxy S III General] ottoajalah:
Thank you you two!

So basically, regarding question 7, kernel, since I am not familiar with these terms, basically Samsung has released update 7 in Jelly Bean 4.1.2, which as you guys believe contains the fix for SDS?

And I still wonder why many people are experiencing these problems. If simply updating to 4.1.2 is the cure, then surely a big percentage should be ok now?

Also, I bought my phone back in December 2012. And when you said XXELLA, XXEMA2 etc. Is it alphabetical order? So when you said "Anything above XXELLA", is that alphabetical? For example, XXE"M" and above should be safe because M is after the letter L?;)
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
I realize that the freezing is (ostensibly) preventing SDS from actually bricking the device, but I had never seen it until yesterday when my phone froze for a few minutes and then rebooted on its own for the first time ever and I've been on EMA2 since it was released and before that I was on ELLA. Does the fact that it just started happening on EMA2 mean anything specific? Is it the beginning of the end for my device?
[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Guys I installed a custom ROM, the latest Omega using official kernel and based on latest firmware. I think that Im safe with that (I hope so). Im unsure about the recovery but Im still waiting for an answer on the rom's thread.

Hope I'll have an answer and thanks for your work.
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
If you have a recovery that includes the SDS fix, like Philz, etc. then yes, it is fixed. Not sure what your question is.
[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Humm ok so i guess the recovery is not pure. Is there anyway to flash the recovery without using my current one?
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
ODIN. But if you are on the old bootloader (without exclamation mark) that's also unsafe; in which case you'll have to risk it.
[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
Yep! I'm on new bootloader "XELLA" so it's safe I guess! thanks for your support!
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
You could just click the Thanks button on the posts that helped you instead, you know? :D