yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
if your phone freez even after flashing it and wipe out whole memory. and it does not solve and still freez, that means SDS is coming
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
11 people are not anywhere close to a large enough sample set.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaiowas89:
I dont have one of them. I hope I wont.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paradaz:
And that fact that many people who either haven't had the dreaded SDS or don't know what it is are unlikely to go searching for it in a forum and are therefore unlikely to submit their answer in a poll.

'PhoneLand' received my phone this morning so I'll update the thread when I find out what they say is wrong with it and how long it will take to fix (and then hopefully an update as to what revision they have replaced the mainboard assembly!)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
well.... According to "Theory of probability" almost 50% phone is dying after use of six months with insane chip(6 out of 11)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
I recommend studying that "theory" a bit more, maybe taking a course in statistics, too.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kjc99:
If 50% of Note II were dying we surly would see more about it if we Googled it.... That kind of news might even be on CNN
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antt00:
Fact: Your sample size is too insignificant to make a conclusion according to normal common sense. You dun even need to read whatever theory to know that.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
i agree that the size is too insignificant to make a conclusion according to normal common sense

the only reply i agree with

lets finish this debate here.......
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.ketan:
Here in my city samsung dealer is my friend, i have gethered some information regarding SDS quite earlier.

That time, he sold almost 2000 S3+Note2, and SDS (even he don't know what is SDS, i have just asked how many cases he needed to replace MoBo) just reported in 2 case, both were S3. So we can understand the rate od SDS. Just to add here in my city only one service station is there.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
I just bought note2 Grey colour.

Manufacturing month : Feb 2013

Android version : 4.1.2

Rom ver : XXDMB2

Kernel version : 3.0.31

Emmc brick app:

Sane chip

Date 12/2012

Type VTU00M

FwRev 0xf7

I think its safe. Opinions guys....
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [dcw]aaron:
we got same. purchased mine last march 10. hopefully and staying positive that it's safe!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goenne:
Hi sanchinaik.... please help me to find the manufacturing month?

Dind't find one on my packaging. :)

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bahtsiz_bedevi:
Sorry Wrong topic...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
There will be a sticker on the right side of the box. It shows the MRP, phone model number etc along with "Month and year of manufacturing" and "Month and year of importing".

If you dont find that sticker, then probably somebody removed it...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vinas1:
Wouldn't that negate the name sudden death?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
What is the date of manufacturing written on the box of your note 2?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Hey Ketan,

Please help with a few things:

1. What is the usual practice these days about the warranty while buying a device? Will the seller fill the warranty card and stamp it or should the sales bill we get from the seller is sufficient. When I bought my last htc device in Mumbai, all I got was sales bill but it worked fine with the service center. Since you know the seller in your place, you might clarify this.

2. Is there any new update released in March 2013 in India for note 2? Does it fixes the sds?

3. I'm thinking of buying it if the manufacturing date is of Feb, 2013 and immediately update the device after opening up the box.

we all are becoming pesky in asking so many questions but I hope you would appreciated that the money at stake is high and also the mental peace.

Thanks in advance,
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [dcw]aaron:
here in our country (Philippines), an official receipt is enough for warranty claims.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkapoorr:
This is exactly my situation.:what:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
1. They will give u 24 hours, if u find any hardware issues like dead pixels, some kind of tint on screen, or bad battery u can immediately get a new piece. After 24 hrs u will have to goto service centre.

Yes warranty card should be stamped and signed.

2. No update released on March. But if you buy with manufacture date as Feb 2013, it will come out of the box with 4.1.2 and the Rom is of date Feb 2013. Also the emmc firware will be 0x1f7.

You are safe with this. Buy Titanium grey coloured Feb 2013 dated phone.

3. Good. But even if u immediately update also, it will say phine is up to date.

Happy buying. Now that sammy s4 is fragmented, and we dont know the temperatures the phone for octa core version also no review !!!! Good time to have uniform body titanium grey Note 2 with 2Gb ram and awesome multitasking :)

Its also gona get 90% of software goodie that s4 has.....
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkapoorr:
Thanks man!

I have one question: Can't I buy the white version? And get the ''0x1f7''???
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Thanks a lot for an elaborate reply.

My plan is to buy a titanium grey one.

Which country you belong to, if you don't mind disclosing it, since I doubt in India the seller would not replace the set within 24 hours :crying: Also, I realised that mostly sellers just give a sales bill and don't fill the warranty card. And most important question: was there a warranty card inside the box when you purchased your phone? I vaguely remember that when I bought my desire z, there was just a document explaining the warranty and no card as such.

Should I buy from a Samsung Cafe to be on safer side?

A quick reply would be appreciated as I may buy it today itself :fingers-crossed:

thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badril81:
Yes u can
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
Yes you can. But make sure that the manufacturing date is Feb2013.

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Yes m from India - Bangalore.

The 24 hours thing is applicable to everyone. But no one will tell u that while buying.

You have to ask them "what if I open it now n see that there are ten dead pixels". Then they tell u abt 24 hrs replacement policy.

But only standard shops like Reliance digital and Big Samsung cafe guys will be aware of this and provide it to customers.

Safer side pls goto samsung showroom only.

Also the waranty card is present inside the sealed box along with phone manuals. U have to tell them to seal it and then sign it. They will do it.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Thanks a lot buddy.

I'm from Hyderabad. I also noticed that different shops are offering different prices. One Samsung shop near CTC offered it at 35500/= some 10 days back (after the price hike), another at Karkhana at 37 something. The Samsung Cafe would sell at the price mentioned at Samsung e-store. Why such a wide spectrum of price offering? Of course there is also a hongkong market near ctc, where I can get this at 33300 also but they are perhaps ebay products!

And I would definitely ask them for 24 hours replacement policy, thanks otherwise I was not aware of it. What other reasons can be sited for replacement: suppose, just by chance, after turning the phone on I find that the mobile has an insane chip, what reason I may site to replace it?

I suppose a screen-guard is a must have accessory and I should buy it immediately. What are other important accessories that I should get soon?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
Buying online is definitely not recommended as you dont get to check it and also u dont get to check the Mfg date.

The price of note2 will only come down if S4 gets released. Untill that time the price will be ~37k in shops.

Best thing to do is to unbox the piece after the purchase in front of the salesman who guided u. Then put on the sim (enable 3g) and sdcard.

Configure google account and play some video.

Offcourse u cant check for the dead pixels there only, as they are so tiny, hence the 24 hours return policy.

Other reasons for return :

Battery bad, like in an hour drained from 100 to 10.

Nfc not working.

Front cam not working.

Phone freezes alot (easily reproducible)

Etc.

But for the flagship I dont think u should look for any other problems but only dead pixels.

U need to buy

1. Glossy crystal clear screen guard.

2. A black/grey back cover.

3. A black earphone (samsung bundled white ones !!!)

Best place would be a capdase shop. U'll get back cover and screenguard for 699.

Ask the shop guy to put on the screen guard. (Make sure u dont remove the initial screen guard which comes out of the box). Let this guy remove it and put the capdase screen guard. This ensures 0 bubbles.

For headphone I recommend Techfusion Twinwoofers. Its 1550Rs and u can get it in capdase shop directly. It comes with a tiny carrying pouch also. Its awesome, atleast for my taste.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Will launch of S4 affect the price of note 2? I'm afraid that people would still prefer note 2 over S4 (we would not get the octa core most probably). And if the price of note 2 falls then, it would further create problems in selling S4.

Which company screen guard you are using. I saw on Flipkart about Amzer!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hayabusa08:
Prices of note 2 n7105 have fallen in the recent weeks. When it was launched its selling price was sgd$980. Now the recent price is only at sgd$765 and i expect it to drop lower when the s4 is launched. As for me note 2 is as good as it was before the s4 even launched. With spen features... octa core will be second in my list. Even the latest games are running smoothly on my quad core note 2. As for camera wise... u want a real photography hobby... get a dslr. A mobile will always be a mobile. Never will it come close to a standalone camera.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
I made a survey of three shops today evening:

A. Samsung smart cafe (at Tirumalgiri):

1. date of manufacturing: Feb. 2013,

2. I made them download the eMMC Check from play store on one of the display sets, and it showed a sane chip. I also checked using the code "*#12580*369#" and it showed the safer option: MP 1.301. So it seems to be safe to buy from here.

3. The price offered was 36700/=. No discounts, maximum free goody: screen guard.

4. They are not offering the 24 hours replacement policy. They said I need to take my set to the service center which will give me some TOU or DOU (whatever it is) and then I would take it to the shop. They would bring a new set from the main stockist and then replace it. I can take my set to the service center up to 8 days of purchase for replacement.

B. Sangeetha Mobiles (Karkhana):

1. Price: 36400+Bluetooth+General Third Party insurance

2. 24 hour replacement policy.

3. Manufacturing date: Feb 2013.

C. Don't Remember the Name :p (Karkhana):

1. Price: 36300+Bluetooth

2. 24 hour replacement policy

3. The only demo mobile they are using for last couple of month was showing problematic response when checked using the code.

4. Manufacturing date: Feb 2013.

Now, I'm surprised that the Samsung Smart cafe is not giving a 24 hour replacement policy while others are giving! Either he is telling me plain truth (that others are hiding) or he is trying to avoid trouble in case of replacement.

The last shop also showed my boxed pack of Sony Xperia Z. Coming at 37900/= with a free headset and flip cover. How does Xperia Z fares to note 2?

And which of these shops should I buy the note 2 if I go for it. yes, I didn't by it today as it became late in evening and I wanted to do proper research before buying. I may buy it on this Sunday.

Further, the smart cafe guy told me that S4 should come by 2nd week of April. Then should I wait for price fall in note 2?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Albinoni:
Just checked mine and I'm safe mine is

Type: MAG4FB

VeRve: 0xf7 :D
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Good. Is it a Feb 2013 manufactured one? It seems Feb 2013 manufactured are coming with sane Chips.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
The samsung cafe guy is right. You have to take the mobile to service center and they will give you a reciept for replacement. They gove that reciept to shop and he will give a newer one.

This is the process.

Again u will have to be clear on getting a new set. They will give the reciept.

But from the samsung cafe where I buy, I get 24 hours direct replacement offer. Those guys are cool.

I dont trust Sangeetha. They close the seal and open it in a fishy manner.

I recommend you to buy it from samsung cafe.

Ask them if they are ok to give new piece if you open it and find a defect right after purchase. They should be oknwith that.

I dont think it will have any problems. Check in the shop directly and make the final deal.

_______________________________

I do not recommend buying Xperia Z. I bought it and immediately gave it to my bro. His earlier phone was Nokia 3230 hence he is happy with it.

Xperia Z is a god awful phone. The mic, earphone, loudspeaker all have the record lowest volume levels. Its simoly unusable

1. For talking outside home. Can not use it at all outside. Defeats the purpose of mobility of mobiles.

2. For listening to music outside home.

The screen is god awfull. Cheap contrast and literal ****.

_______________________________

Note2 or S4 is the choice. None of the phones in market are worthy to call themselves as flagships. Even the htc one and iphone 5 doesnt qualify.

I dont think you should wait till S4 release unless u r thinking of buying s4.

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M using Capdase screenguard.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.m0x:
Sent from the mighty Note II.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McLaren__F1:
Here's mine, *knock on wood*
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholes:
anyone knows how much smssung will charge for changing the motherboard after SDS( i am going to get a note 2 without bill and no warranty)

in india someone told me that they would charge 6500 to 8000 rupees( 150$ to 180$ (us doller) i want to know what in other countries they are charging for a motherboard.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sachinaik:
You must

1. Install 4.1.2 update

2. Perseus 34.2

3. Philz latest recovery.

Hopefully.it wont go into sudden death.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weasl:
Hi, I was thinking about getting a note 2 in white. How are the chances that I will get one with a sane chip when I buy it in the next month (I know it's hard to tell, but maybe somebody has some relevant experiences)? I would buy it from Hong Kong, if that is important to know...

Also I wanted to ask if there is the same SDS problem with the N7105? (The price difference is really not that high when you get it from HK, but I would prefer a N7100 because of the better battery life and LTE is really not that important to me)

Thanks in advance

weasl
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Hey Henry,

How is your note 2 now? Is it working normally or got sds. Your input would be invaluable to all those who believe the 0xf7 chip is safe. Please do reply.

regards,

dcpathak
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkapoorr:
Just bought mine. I believe I'm not affected. Can anyone confirm?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.ketan:
Yes it's safe.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
As far as we know, 0xf7 is safe. But remember that its very new, so no body knows for sure...let's hope for better. All Feb 2013 manufactured ones are coming with this chip.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McLaren__F1:
Yeah I'm on 4.1.2

Yeah I'm on latest Perseus kernel

I'm running TWRP recovery
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cswithxda:
I don't care what the statistics say. I know that if even one person encounter this issue, it gives him/her 100% frustration and upset. I may sound biased because my phone just died (no PIT partition), but trust me, I'm definitely in a better state than some of the users who have no idea what the hell is going on, given some of them do not come to the forum. Hell I wish I did not use the phone so much without coming to XDA more often to discover these issues proactively, because I assumed the device I spent this much on should have been more stable or at least not being troubled with serious issue like this.

So I am with Kjc here. Screw Samsung.

Again this is some statistics. Note, however, it is not about how high the chances are. It is about how LOW it is and yet I still happen to be one of the victims. Not to mention that the population of N7100 users in the forum should only be a sample of the total population of N7100 users worldwide. If I can be the one who is this unlucky, anyone can (or could have been). As of today, only 20% of VOTERS are having this issue, but the number of total voters is merely 35.

BTW, I've only used the phone for 5 months.

---------- Post added at 04:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:50 PM ----------

Ok i sounded like a lil whining b1tch in the last post sorry guys. I was just hit by this sudden death thing and read around a little more and feel much better now. As I realized that it is actually pretty funny to read things like "SDS is coming" LOL. It reminds me of someone saying "OMG I'm gonna die".

Anyway, I searched in this thread a little bit using keywords "AT&T" "U.S." "US" "United States" but found nothing. My concern is that has anyone in the U.S. who bought thru Amazon's import sellers had this issue and claimed his warranty successfully? I bought the phone Oct 31, 2012 thru an Amazon seller called Wireless Everything (or sth similar). I think the phone was from Austria when I checked after open it, and I flashed Open Germany 4.1.1 firmware. Am I gonna be able to contact and use U.K. customer service for warranty claim and repair? Or does Austria phone get to be sent to Samsung Austria?

Thanks for any inputs if you know.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chhayh:
Well just got my device back (SDS?) from warranty center..now just check with eMMC, here the result:

eMMC check: my firmware is 4.1.2

Type: V3U00M

Date: 03/1998

CID:

FwRev: 0x12

Note-II Sudden death?

No. Sane chip.

What's all that mean? I'm pretty safe now? :confused:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
since it is not 0xf7, you seem to be safe. But across this thread, I never came to see such a result: Date: 03/1998 (?) FwRev: 0x12

May be sammy has so many chips!;)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [dcw]aaron:
woah..1998? really?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ralfgm04:
Guys help pls,

is mine SAFE?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McLaren__F1:
^Yes
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cargobr151:
@ralfgm04

Damn, you are stupid!!

Read Post #561, 562 and 563 - ahead of your post!

Example:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Yes, seems so :)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thinkgreenn:
My gf S3 had a flashcounter 1.. means no warrenty. She had the SDS and i end up paying 340 euro for a motherboard replacement
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bushako:
Guys I'm curious now, who exactly came up with the term Sudden Death Syndrome for the Note2 ? Because it doesn't take a doctor to know those words means there should not be any symptoms and yet there are many power users and noobs alike reporting cases of symptoms to this SDS. Does anyone not see the irony here?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cswithxda:
Chhayh,

May I ask where you are located and who you sent to repair?

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chhayh:
I'm from Australia, bought mine from aus online store but the device shipped from Hong Kong (end of nov 2012). So I believe they took my device and get it fix in Hong Kong and it came with a note: FAULTY eMMC, Repaired.

I'd also tried dial: *#12580*369# which I get HW Rev: 1.300 :confused:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaiowas89:
How can I learn manucafturing date ?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
Just see all the sides of the box in which your note 2 was packed. It should be there along with mrp and some other details :)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaiowas89:
there is nothing :/
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcpathak:
There should have been something. From where you bought this and when? And for how much?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xelir13:
N7000 - Titanium Gray

Type: VTU00M

Date: 08/2012

FwRev: 0xf1

Am I affected of this bug?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legionxx:
I have the same..

Type: VTU00M

Date: 07/2012

FwRev: 0xf1

Is this a firmware or hardware problem?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaoz28:
Is there a symptoms before this SDS thing happens?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbreyes:
thats really helpful real relief. i really hope my unit is out of SDS thing because my unit doesnt have Samsung Warranty just a service warranty. and still at stock 4.1.1 and haven't have any update to 4.1.2.,

My unit is N7100 VTU00M Date :11/2012 FwRev : 0xf7
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soljakid:
nope... sudden death.

Although when it happened to me i couldnt turn the screen on... so it took the battery out and restarted... and it never turned on again...

(its currently resting in a service centre :'(
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antt00:
Read here (do not post unless you are developer or can contribute) :cyclops:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2096045

It seems the patch check the date of the chip as well. So maybe not all of the chips are affected. Could be good news.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kebabs:
From what I gathered so far, this patch only identifies chips of a certain batch or date namely 20120413 which if it is from April, it's highly likely our note2 devices aren't affected. That is to say, Samsung have indeed identified the issue and are on top of it. If other batches are identified, then the workaround work. Has any bodies n7100 actually died from SDS or is it too early to tell? Sme will die to unrelated issues, and that's fine as all phones will experience these failures but what's not wanted is the phones dying en-masse
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bushako:
I think it can be concluded that people wanting to buy a Note 2 should first check the date the phone was manufactured or what chip is present in the phone before exchanging money. The question is is it possible to say what chip is present in the phone just by looking at the imei or serial number on the package?

Sent from the Rabbit Hole
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obssesd:
in our country warranty is usselyy for 2 years.if will brick,after one years i coud get a new phone
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlanDS:
Thats great.. But here in Kuwait, no manufacturer warranty. Only supplier warranty and its for one year only.. And during the warranty claim, most of the time blame is put on consumer itself and warranty is denied. This is what happened with my Galaxy S2 which got emmc brickbug. Even the binary counter was 0 and these people just gave the report as water-case..

So by looking at my past experience, I am getting worried with this topic..