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[Android General] dasmarian:
After a couple days - finally stable

This to you all for the tips you have posted here, try have been really great.

Got my tablet a couple days ago. It came with the 1.32 fw and out the box it was kind of abysmal. I expected a few hiccups but just after booting I tried to access apps drawer which would freeze the tablet 60 pct of the time. I have two good WiFi routers, it would connect to one with the described problems - slow, etc and not to the other at all. Many apps not available at all - several games I like, Yelp, etc.

So - I am no expert but here is how I got my tab from zero to hero:

1) there is a new 1.33 fw available that is packed with some customizations - got it here: w w w .arctablet.com/blog/forum/onda-v812/onda-v812-root-custom-firmware-v1-33-2013-02-28/ and downloaded to my pc

2) downloaded the Phoenix updater from the same forum as above

3) followed directions and flashed it. Much better - all Chinese apps gone. Seemed much more stable - no complete freezes since

4) Followed advice and am using Nova launcher from app store - better than stock launcher in general and has been completely stable

5) Installed Astro file manager from app store so I couple backup, transfer, and side load apps.

For the WiFi, I have netgear routers and updated the firmware from the vendor sites. My tablet now not only connects, but does so at speeds rivaling my desktop. I live in an area with insanely fast internet (fastest in US) so the speeds you see are accurate - this is screenshot from my tablet downstairs with router up. So - even if your router is fairly new check for firmware update.

So now I am pretty happy, with a few things I still need I resolution. Hopefully they will come in a new fw update:

1) even though I have the tablet set to keep WiFi alive in sleep it doesn't. When I turn on the screen the WiFi reconnects and then looks for my email etc. - anyone have tips here?

2) I side loaded some apps, but am still getting unable to install messages on a couple. There is a dumb game I play - rage of bahamut - if anyone can get it working then I be appreciative.

3) Have screen flashes occasionally which is a little annoying but not critical.

4) Power management is bad - hopefully fw update in future will solve this. I am guessing that they underclocked the CPU to 1,000 until this is resolved. I will look forward to slight speed improvement once power management is working, but just a guess.

Good luck!
[Android General] Dvalin21:
@Jyam,

When u installed the toolbox , did u use the update app in the app drawer?
[Android General] Diomorgan:
Same here, apps like Grindr, Romeo, GakeGPS, PayPal report "app not installed" even if sideloaded.

Does someone here knows the trick to place the apk in the system folder and change the permissions to install it?
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Yeah u need root explorer. Take the installed apk from data/app and put it into system app.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Thanks for posting this. Especially about the part of the wifi. As a tech, Ive notice this many times, when the firmware update on the router, it would cause many wifi adapters that use to have issues, work perfect.
[Android General] MrDho:
Hi, sorry for my poor level of english, im french.

Can you help me ?

I have onda v972 half brick.

I can't restore firmware with phoenixsuit 1.0.6 on adb mode.

I have a Windows error without message.

I ve try with all firmware version.

I use Windows 8 64bits, i have installation drivers 64bits from sdk Android in mode unsigned driver on Windows 8.

But, i can start Android, i can go to recovery mode, and wipe factory mode but no upgrade possible.

Please help.. :confused:

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9100 avec Tapatalk
[Android General] minerva1961:
I suspect some of your problem is because you are using Windows 8, do you have access to a Windows 7 or XP PC?
[Android General] Dvalin21:
I'm on windws 8 pro 64 bit, and I haven't had a problem. BUT!!!! One of the things that you want to do is to put windows in unsigned driver mode and reinstall the drivers. After that if you want to go back to regular mode you can. I
[Android General] dasmarian:
I did this -- changed system/app to r/w and put the couple apk's in there and executed install but I get the same message. There must be some other compatibility issue.

If anyone can get

Yelp

Rage of Bahamut

elecont weather

to work and post instructions I would be very grateful.
[Android General] jantuna:
Problem

Help me, this is my show after launch. What is it?
[Android General] MrDho:
yes

Houuouuuu, you are my God, i love you man.

My tablet is safe, i have update the last firmware with an old PC with XP

Thank you very much

No important, just message when you use Build.prop modified

Some custom rom have build.prop modified for maximum of compatibility in the playstore
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Just remember Dho, if you want to use your tablet on your windows 8 computer, just disable the verify unsiged drivers and you will be good to go.
[Android General] jyams:
Sorry Dvalin21, I've been away for the day. No, I booted into CWM Recovery and did it there. My only issue was that the touch selection would not work, so I could never select the English option. I about poked a hole through the glass trying to select English, but it would never select.
[Android General] ankar84:
It says:

Self-diagnostics of file system

Do not turn off
[Android General] Dvalin21:
@Jyam,

I went ahead used the update tool in the app drawer according to PK, and it work. I was able to use touch and everything. The only thing is that its not permanent.

Also, the rumor is that source code is suppose to be released soon, anyone heard anything yet?
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Was anyone else get an error when trying to install rom from external sdcard? I got, keep geting "error ext_sd can't mount"
[Android General] minerva1961:
>One of the things that you want to do is to put windows in unsigned driver mode and reinstall the drivers

There are a lot of postings on various forums here and externally complaining about issues with Windows 8 that are resolved with Win7/XP but that's a good tip re: unsigned mode, good to know, should be put in a FAQ somewhere :)

Thanks, will remember that when I eventually have to upgrade!
[Android General] MrDho:
I have already use phoenixsuit 1.0.6 with unsigned driver mode on Windows 8 64bits, with firewall and antivirus Turner off. The résultats is more random.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9100 avec Tapatalk
[Android General] msav:
I have never had any luck with CWM working with ext sdcard. with any of my phones or tablets.

I just copy to internal sdcard and go from there. It is a pain but It is how it has always been.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
I do it all the time with my SGSII, there has to be a permission issue maybe or coding or something
[Android General] jyams:
Screen Protector

Everyone, just an FYI. I got fed up with the original equipment installed screen protector. Everytime I cleaned it with a microfiber cloth it scratched it even more! So, I decided to replace it. I ordered these from Amazon. They came in this morning and I installed it. Even though they are for an Ipad, the fit is perfect. I used the large hole over the camera and the small hole isn't even noticeable. Very easy install and absolutely no bubbles. Wait to move the original factory screen protector until you are ready to install the new one. Use your fingernail near the edge and the original will come right up. Immediately apply the Amazon version without touching your screen. Follow manufacturer's instructions. Took me about 5 minutes and it is SO much better! Plus after using an hour, I cleaned with my microfiber and it looks brand new again. Plus this screen protector seems clearer than the factory version.

Anyway, I highly recommend these.
[Android General] MrDho:
Sorry for my bad english,

i can explain how to have a 1.33 rooted more stable without wifi probleme

1-Flash 1.2 rom Stock with phoenixsuite 1.0.6 ( Format Mode )on windows 7 with antivirus and firewall Off

2-reboot and turn off

3-Flash 1.33 rom Stock with phoenixsuite 1.0.6 ( upgrade Mode )on windows 7 with antivirus and firewall Off

4-reboot

5-Use allwinner31 root.zip on update program

6-reboot

7-Connect you google account, DL android terminal emulator and install CWM

8-reboot

9-on CWM ....Wipe dalvik+fix permission

10-reboot the tablet, your profils are delete, its normal.

you can install all that you want, the tablet is stable with this process and the wifi is very good

byebye
[Android General] Gizmotech:
I don't see how thats going to work. All these tablets are originally on 1.32. Most would then install 1.33. The zip package just adds binary for root/supersu. Then we are left with dalvic cache, How does that fix the problems? You can access the recovery menu by holding the home button and power button simultaneously so not too sure why the need for CWM
[Android General] Dvalin21:
@Jyams,

Do me a favor, all these suggestion for accessories, can you put them in one Thread, that way we can post it in the main forum? Also, how do we get XDA to make an official Forum...whatever specifically for our device? Seems a little unfair just because its not a"Well Known" device or manufacturer.
[Android General] vel_tins:
Just one thing:

The Onda 1.33 stock firmware is already rooted!

No need to install any kind of "Root Software"

Just go to the play store and install Superuser/Supersu.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Wifi fixer from the app store seems to be really helping me out so. I haven't even opened up my tablet yet to un-adhere the antenna from the case yet. At the end of the day you will have to find the best solution for you. Either by trying to us an alternative antenna, fabricating the case by cutting an opening and replacing it with an alternative surface (see the wifi fix in the Chuwai 99 thread), or when we get the source code, maybe something can be done that way. Something I commonly do to find out suggestions is to go to other threads for tablets that I've researched before or ones I just come across and see what fixes and or mods that might help us in our tablets. I think the more eyes searching, the more knowledge we can pull together to make our tablets that much better.
[Android General] msav:
It has more to do with Android from ICS on. They put internal sdcard instead of ext sdcard. I believe it because that is when google release The Galaxy Nexus and took the stance of eliminating sdcard slots on there devices. the external sdcard has not been seamlessly entered with the google experience since. Try to see how many apps you can put on your external sdcard and have them run from ICS on.

---------- Post added at 09:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 AM ----------

+1 on all of this.

I just installed a second AP in my house and my tablet would not switch between the 2 APs when i got closer to the other. WIFI Fixer Has took care of that problem.

Great app.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
How get Picasa instant photo upload

Download the zip file to your internel sdcard

Reboot into recovery

Flash with CWM

Reboot.

Enjoy.

Tip: The modded gallery.apk is marked as 1.140001 (Don't uninstall this one)

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1447902&d=1351760530
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Hey Guys,

Found a website the is completely devoted to all Allwinner devices. It seem pretty empty, but if need be could be used to our advantage in the future. http://www.allwinnerforum.com/
[Android General] wellsy:
I do not read Chinese but I had the same writing appear on my V972 screen.

I was using firmware v1.33 all was well for about a day and a half then screen froze and needed to hold the power button to get the thing to close down.

On reboot thats what I saw. Only thing that cleared it was reconnecting and reinstall firmware via pc. It did the same tging the next day and so I went back to firmware v1.32

Only thing I can suggest is to connect up and re-install the firmware.

Shame about these tablet it is the stability and compatibility that lets them down and will probably stop them becoming recognised credibly outside China.

Regards

GW
[Android General] Dvalin21:
If I'm not mistaken that was an update. Just let it go through the cycle
[Android General] Diomorgan:
It happened to me after a night when it overheated, just enter recovery, make a whipe and you are ready to go.

Always remember to backup with GoBackup or Titanium backup so you can restore everything after a whipe or a ROM change :)
[Android General] glen.ricky:
Hey, I just got my novo spark today and realise that it has the same exact spec. So is it possible to use rom or firmware from onda 972?
[Android General] msav:
Different touchscreen driver. there are a few other differences in hardware.
[Android General] msav:
just info I have read from onda and talks with some retailers who have had contact with onda. I read the specs on the a31 allwinner that there is a 5th core for idle processes. There are references to the fact that even when idle cpu clock is still at 1ghz. this would not be the case if the 5th core was implemented. I have also done quite a bit of tinkering. I was able to preserver root by using an app that backsup root and then upgrading the firmware to 1.2 then restoring root.

Steps to preserve root.

1. downgrade to firmware v 1.02 (even though 1.1 has root Ota was not working on 1.1)

2. download app on googgle play ota rootkeeper

open ota rootkeeper and backup root. then select unroot.

3. click on the update app on the device. (icon has a blue arrow pointing up)

follow the prompts to update firmware. (you have to update like this will not work updating with phoenixsuite)

4. launch ota rootkeep and select restore root

you should now have root and be on 1.2 firmware.

Gmail90. there may be something wrong with you power supply. Mine even while playing games and watching videos although more slowly will continue to climb. It really charges fast when screen is off though. Also mine stays at 99% for a long time before stating charged.

Just out of curiosity, Have you done a full charge cycle and let it stay plugged in for an additional 12 hours after it states charged?

also I leave my screen brightness all the way down. Perhaps this behavior is caused by the screen on full brightness. Not sure I have not tried it.

My friend is now exercising my battery by playing mass effect. I will get a good indication of battery life under extreme conditions when he is done.

I believe the wifi sleep bug is a known issue with firmware 1.02. I just kept touching the screen even now and then to keep it from going to sleep. someone tried putting the tablet timeout to never and ended up not being able to restore it without the help of an app. (settings has closed)
[Android General] gmail90:
@msav

I too leave the screen brightness down to minimum. However I'm using my samsung phone charger to charge it cuz the OEM charger was not a UK type plug, but I'll try it soon with an universal adapter n see if it helps.

Well I do leave my tab 12hour for charging first hand when I receive it. The power drain was OK as its lasted the whole day when I just used it for web browsing for few hour.

There another thing it seem some app cannot write or copy data to our micro sd card, it state read only..well its does bother me as the file manager was able to move the file I wanted to micro SD ...
[Android General] msav:
you need 2.5 A charger for this tablet. I bet you samsung charger is only 1 -1.5 A. this is why you are having this issue.
[Android General] gmail90:
hopefully that really the matter cuz im at oversea now and left my universal adapter at home :(...will try the OEM adapter. in the meanwhile im charging it with my samsung charger (does the job but have to leave the tab charge overnight) and find a universal adapter here..

There another problem I just tested my audio jack. When i plug my headphone in I discover that is not working. When plugged in fully external speaker sound come out, flickering the audio jack abit to get it to work. Did some googling and yes many had this problem..due to onda had rushed production. Luckily my local reseller provide warranty..but I am at oversea until 6 FEB..:'(

I felt this tab had really rushed production even my mom 7 inch china tab provide more stability than mine quad core tab..
[Android General] kant1983PL:
If you have problems with stability after OTA or upgrade/downgrade (launcher/games compatybility/not working as should) try this:

-go to recovery

-wipe cache

-factory reset

-reboot

-check now your Onda (launcher/games)

RECOVERY

Hold HOME-KEY for 4 seconds then still holding home-key, hold POWER-KEY until the white android shows then release BOTH keys.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
There's many things that have been discovered that can increase the battery life. Turning down the screen brightness is something that u can do initially. Seeing users with 3hrs of game play on mass effects and having 59% battery left.

EDIT:

Guys, if we want to get help with this tablet, we have to get active and start requesting for help. I've already went over to the Cyanogenmod website and request for the V972 and Ainol Spark (just in case some hardware is different, same spec, but different driver could be required) to be picked up as a project of Cyanogenmod. I think the more people go over and request, or at least support the topic, it will at least get someone's attention over there. http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/forum/23-unofficial-ports/
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Apparently a few people are trying to create CWM recovery for this tablet

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36904779
[Android General] gmail90:
Its great to hear dev are working on this tab. Cant wait to get custom rom on this tab.

Oh did u guys tested ur headphone jack..i seem to had not been functioning well..when my earphone are fully plugged in, the external speaker work(that mean it cant detect my earphone) . When i pull my earphone out abit, there are sound but no vocal..:(. Can this be solve or i had to sent my tab to da warranty.

Did some googling yes this tab had this common headphone jack problem..:crying: but other than that no major issue till now.
[Android General] messi2050:
cheap and good device
[Android General] Dvalin21:
OK, those u you guys who have rooted there tablets, have tried altering the build.prop? I would think that would be easier to get more apps available. Also, has anyone gone over and asked the guys at goo manager if they would help make a twrp recovery for this?
[Android General] msav:
Tested both of my v972 tablets. both headphone jacks are working fine. I did notice a lot of electronic noise coming from the tablet when it is working. The must not have it shielded well. Only hear it when no sound is being outputted via the headphones. I tested both plain headphones and headphones with mic. both were working fine.

you probably have a bad solder connection. I think I have something messed up with the wifi on mine. when I have both tablets side by side one of them has full wifi signal the other has only 2 bars. I may have to send it back to onda to fix.
[Android General] diquan2001:
Same problem here!!

Hello eveyone .I also bought this Onda V972 from China .I received it yesterday .

Mine has some problems with freezing up .The whole Tablet freezes and then i have to do a hard reset .

Does anybody know why this is happening ? ?..ALso my headphonejack is faulty sounds are like im listening under water .
[Android General] msav:
I think I fixed my WiFi signal problem. I opened up the tablet and found the WiFi antenna wire. I saw that it was soldered to what looks like a carbon cable antenna like thing. It was adhered down. I pulled it up releasing the adhesive. I then checked my WiFi signal and it was 4 bars. I noticed that they left a long length of antenna wire that looped back. I carefully put the loop of the wire underneath the adhesive so that it would not get readhered. This keeps the antenna from sitting flat into the caved part of the case. I put it back together and now my WiFi signal is the same as my other one. I don't know if it is just me but it seemed to stop lagging so much with the stock browser. In fact I am using it to type this now, I would never do that they way it was before because it would lag so bad that when I would be typing it would not recognize that I was typing and then all of a sudden it would catch up. I have typed all of this without this happening.

Fingers crossed that it really is fixed. I still get some browser lag from the internet where it just sits there for a while but nowhere near as frequent.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Nice work brother, keep the tips coming
[Android General] deniso177:
Can someone PLEASE post their build.prop contents of the onda tablet on here, need it asap for recovery purposes

Thank you
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Ill see if i can get someone to post it, or send me a copy for ya
[Android General] hobiwouane:
Hi everyone

I got mine last friday, and honestly i have stongly mixed feeling about this tablet.

The screen is amazingly good !! a real pleasure to read comics, watch movies, even just surf the web.

But the tablet freeze too much (forced to do a hard reset everytime), most games or applis lag too much to be used (don't even the graphics bugs with 2d games like Ski Safari), the battery is f*cking weak ... with screen light on minimal, wifi on, a bit of facebook and gmail (basics stuff), it doesn't stay alive more than 6h30 !!! i bought my daughter a 9.7" ips dual core that stay on for more than 11h ! (for half the price)

So i'm really disapointed, but i was waiting so long for this one that i'm not sure what to do ... wait for some soft fixes (official or not), or send it back and get a refund ... ?

Do you thinks some (or all) of those issues will get fixed ? or maybe it's a component problem for my tablet only ?

PS: Sorry for my english
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Some of the fixes u can do. Down load nova launcher as others have reported that the stock launcher is some of the problem. Also its been reported users have opened the tablet and unadhere part of the antenna from the actual case and getting better WiFi signal. Also less lag on stock browser
[Android General] hobiwouane:
i'll try with nova launcher

the wifi problem i have isn't the signal strength but the delay to connect to it. it take about 5/10 minutes to succesfully connect to my box. (i tried other device, they connect instantly)

i use the stock browser, and it frooze very often ...

that's bloody anoying for a quad core tablet :/
[Android General] Dvalin21:
Yeah i could only imagine. Try the wifi fix anyway, I know it was report that the tablet stopped freezing, (not sure the connection between wifi and tablet software) and less lag using he stock browser. So far from what I've seen Dolphin is coming out the best. Also, just to add to the sweetness: Apparently someone over at slatedroid was able to install the Chuwai v99 firmware on the Onda v972 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bisSF95gYow
[Android General] glen.ricky:
Wow thanks, but I think i might be able to use information from this forum as its larger than the ainol one.
[Android General] bdjh:
PhoeniXSuit does not start upgrading

Hi,

I have read the complete threat and saw others pose the same question as I will do now (since I did not find a solution yet).

I have my V972 rooted. It still runs 1.20 that was there when I bought it. My problem is that I cannot install customs ROMs through PhoenixSuit. I run Windows7 and disabled firewall and virusscanner. When I do the acrobatic USB-trick with the two fingers and I click format, it "upgrade" button greys out but nothing happens afterwards. Does anyone have a solution?

Thanks.
[Android General] Dvalin21:
What firmware version are you trying to jump to first? You will need to go in order if you are not going to do custom rom
[Android General] bdjh:
I tried 1.21, 1.32 and 1.33. No luck x3.