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[Off-topic] Pennycake:
I suppose you could make the case that the US is a very confused and distant England, but not so much the other way around.

Can't tell if sarcasm or...
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I should certainly hope it was sarcasm...

If it was made in the US there would be 90% less plot, 80% more romance, 30% more sex, 200% more unoriginal clichés, all characters would be as flat as a penny and the plot would have more holes than a Swiss cheese. Also, it would probably star Tom Cruise as the Doctor.

Oh, and the Daleks would be Middle Eastern or Russian, depending on the year it was filmed in.. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] boborone:
Happy late bday. Wasn't sure where to post it when I saw your name at the bottom of the page.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
lol the only problem with that logic is the fact that apart from a few shows like Doctor Who (and anime) the rest of the world doesn't make good movies or TV shows.
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
O, Doctor Who has plenty of things people complain about and I've seen quite a few good American TV shows. I actually grew up with Star Trek, not Doctor Who - although Tom Baker was one of the reasons I finally agreed to try Doctor Who.

Doctor Who changes things all the time, it just has the benefit of the spirit of work like Douglas Adams (who was in fact involved for a bit) - of being able to make ridiculous changes and get a pass because it's science fantasy. Lots of the hard science fans complain about lack of hard science, although I think that's like complaining that they don't kill enough people in Disney movies.

Blink was one of my favourite New Who episodes, and I really hated what they did in the later two-parter with 11. They would have been pretty good episodes on their own, but they really ruined the Angels for me, it made them so much less terrifying - which wouldn't have happened if they had just stuck to their original conception and "rules".

Doctor Who is lucky because it's format is like Star Trek - it has the benefit of being able to do an episodic or serial format without having to worry quite so much about over-arching plot because you can easily take time out and have a "Holodeck episode" or go to another planet or whatever and focus on a unique story that will be gone within the next 24-42 minutes.

I'm actually watching an American show right now, it's struggling a bit now that they've switched from that sort of episodic format to more of a focus on the "background" plot, but they're still standing. LOST did a good job with what it had to work with, too.

IN OTHER NEWS MY SONIC SCREWDRIVER ARRIVED THAT A FRIEND GOT ME FOR CHRISTMAS.

So, not to be rude, but let's keep this thread about Who appreciation or good-natured critique of it - not liking Who at the expense of whole other countries (and I'm saying that as someone who bought a DVD box set of Jeeves and Wooster).

SO ANYWAY.

Favourite Doctor ? Favourite Companion ?

I'd say 4 is my favourite doctor, and all the Rs - River, Rose, and Romana for companions. And I guess Rory, too for the hell of it.
[Off-topic] GuestK00178:
:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Well, my fav's definitely 10, and River is absolutely hilarious. Amy was great, too. (Rose bored me.)

Blink is still one of the greatest episodes of the new series. It's what eventually led to Moffat taking over from RTD as showrunner. (Which nobody minded. That whole Timelord-victorious crap was starting to get more than a little boring.)

Thank you :)

Well, I never said the rest of the world did. ;) Fact is they generally don't.

But the last 10 years or some the BBC makes shows with a lot more original content and plots than Hollywood does.. Think

Top Gear,

Sherlock (Don't get me started on Elementary.),

Merlin,

Robin Hood,

Torchwood (okay, that's a Dr Who spinoff.)

Parade's End (That was hilarious...),

The Office (US is a remake.),

Being Human (Again, US is a remake.),

Strike Back (US took over after S1),

Inspector Lynley Mysteries,

Life on Mars (Lol if you watched Dr Who s3's ending)..

List goes on...

Yes, the US has plenty of great shows (i'm only counting since about 2000.), but most are all either A) Character Dramas, or B) Purely Action. It's very, very rare to find a balanced show with great characters, great actors, excellently thought out plots, original ideas, good visualisation and humour. And when they do finally get one, they cancel it because it's not "What the audience needs." (*cough*, Firefly....)

And no, Game of Thrones is not a good argument, don't bother.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Leela has to be my favourite companion

Sally Sparrow would have made a great companion too.
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There's also a low-level perception filter hiding this thread from you :cool::p
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
Watching today's on iPlayer, just gone past the directions bit

"Thomas Thomas, you'll go far"

Nice reference there
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DONT SPOIL I HAZ NOT SEEN IT YET :eek::eek:
[Off-topic] :
Watching it later.. On iPlayer.. On the tv.. In hd.. With the blu-ray player :D
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
I would watch it on my TV, but my router needs moving first, so I watched it in 8" 1080p on my tablet :)
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I always watch it directly on BBC1. (Did need to skip the 4th May memorial for it, though.)

Gatiss did a great job on this ep, it was a good one. :) He's on a roll this season! :D

Also, Strax is hilarious! :laugh:

I really, really hope those two kids won't be tagging along in the TARDIS. They were a bit... bratty.

First thing I said: "That kid sounds like a victorian TomTom. Bet his name's Thom.". We all laughed for a whole 5 minutes when it turned out to be true xD
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We don't have a TV license so I use iPlayer :p:thumbup:

Yeah Strax is awesome :D

That bit with the kid (Thomas Thomas) made me lol :p

And yeah I agree completely about those other kids..
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Glad this was bs! :o

http://en.mediamass.net/people/tom-baker/deathhoax.html
[Off-topic] :
Yeah me too.. Wonder how Tom baker felt about that lol
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
You do know you need a licence to watch iPlayer too, and that they can use the cookies from the site to track you and check if you have a licence?
[Off-topic] :
No, you don't.
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
It seems I'm mistaken, but you do need it for a lot of iPlayer features
[Off-topic] benrees21:
Was a good episode. Some nice funny bits in it. "I'm the doctor, you're nuts and I'm gonna stop you".

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[Off-topic] :
I'm going to stay away from here. Too many spoilers.

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[Off-topic] benrees21:
Too bad, we love you! ;)

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I'm fairly sure everyone already knew 10 and Rose would be returning in the 50th... ;) If they didn't, they need to hang out on IMDB a little more :p

We're not going to wait for the whole world to catch up before discussing a show in the thread dedicated to said show :p
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Haha. I moved abroad from London recently and the site I use has some glitches in it so I can't watch Hide.

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[Off-topic] :
Use proxy and iPlayer.
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Well season 5 here I come.

Hope its a good one!

:)
[Off-topic] :
FFS I keep coming here even though I want to stay away!

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[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Now you sound like dr who..:D
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Ha whodofthunkit Neil Gaiman writing an episode of Doctor Who.

On another note I was disapointed in dw for jumping on the slenderman bandwagon, although it was a good story. Damn netflix only has up to s.6. And im almost done. :(

Whats will I do .....:confused: ?
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Neil Gaiman wants to write more episodes.

“All I know is just what I read in the papers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance.”*―*Will Rogers
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
New ep, so far it's hilarious. xD
[Off-topic] :
Just watched it :D can't wait for the finale! It's gonna be soo awesome!! :D:D
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I'm really looking forward to it. :D Moffat's work is always great, and this one's going to be epic :victory:

I got a distinct "We are the Borg" vibe in this ep, by the way. :eek: And I imagine they must've had an awful lot of fun filming that 'chess match'. xD :laugh:
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Wow just wow.

S6 ep 7

What avgreat storybline snd ending was kind of a wtf, but in a good way!

I did not expect that!

:beer:
[Off-topic] nishanty13:
Just finished watchin' last episode.:D

Is it me or everyone thinks it's enough about Cyber men...even in last episode one of the cybermites survived...which clearly indicates that there gonna be more cyber man in future....or more of "Mr Clever"
[Off-topic] :
Like daleks and the master among other things, the cybermen will keep coming back. They're long time villains and I think they should stay.
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
+1 Doctor who w/o Daleks would be like doctor who w/o the tardis. I hope to see Davros again!
[Off-topic] nishanty13:
But with Cyberman it's always the same thing....every episode about cyber man is almost same....they just convert more people or just keep upgrading themselves which have become boring and repetitive. They are only good in one thing that is - Dying! :rolleyes:

I dunno about others but I am not that happy with this season ( especially part 2 ) Though last episode was good and I'm looking forward for coming episode too....but IMO expect some episodes, this season was a total fail.
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Ah old skool....
[Off-topic] benrees21:
Those in America got the series 7 DVD early today! Will be able to download the finale tonight lol. That ain't pirating by the way, (well if you pay TV Licence) as you would see it for free next week anyway.

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Seeing as how cyberman have been a part of the show for decades, and the show isn't linear (even if they're all gone at some point, they still exisf before that point), they'll keep showing up.

As for 'mr Clever', did anyone else think of the Valeyard?
[Off-topic] nishanty13:
Meh, I know...they're a part of show for decades just like daleks....and they'll keep occurring in the future....but you know..it's always the same story in their case and it's too predictable . So I'm lil' fed up from them.:p

But who knows what gonna happen next...Moffat said that the course of show will change after this finale.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
We'll see, I've learned not to listen to anything Moffat says before the actual episode airs... He's the ultimate troll.

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[Off-topic] :
Arghh! Why do I keep lurking here?

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[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Well crap

....where can I watch s7 ????

I dont have bbc :(
[Off-topic] Quinny899:
Use a proxy
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Well i tried a few none worked.

:(

But wait whats this??

Netflix now has the classics??

This is so cool! Must be a new thing.

Wow ...the aztecs. S1 ep 1 :thumbup:

And ill say it again.

Reboot doctor who with Patrick Stewart as the first doctor.

But heres the timey wimey zinger..

Who would play The 11th Doctor??:eek:
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
No... Let's keep ST TNG and Doctor Who WELL separate, thanks. But I think you will like the Assimilation comics, by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation/Doctor_Who:_Assimilation2

Matt Smith... :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Meh not interested in tng. Great show but so burnt out on st.

And I agree lets keep them seperate that comic looks atrocious.

Poor mr Stewart even at his broadway shows he cant escape tng.

Hes a great actor and would make a perfect 1st doctor. :p

Speaking of comics or animation in particular has anyone seen dreamland?
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I gave up on ST when they brought us that weird 'alternate reality' rubbish in the new film. ST2:ID for me has only one positive thing, and that has nothing to do with it being Star Trek. More to do with the Cast. Or one of them, anyway. :D

Yes. :)
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Someones got a crush on 11 th doctor hmmmmm??

;):p

Speaking of tng Did any of you watch the footage of David anouncing his final term as the doctor...

"Well now I must go and kill Patrick Stewart. "

I would have loved to seen that show.

Ah well.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
What? Yeugh no. In fact, I think Matt Smith is rather unattractive. (Also, I'm asexual, I don't have the emotional triggers required for 'crushes'.) Though how this relates to Star Trek is beyond me. I do not recall him being in anything ST related :confused:

Heh, No I didn't see that footage. I'll add that to my to-watch list.
[Off-topic] Archer:
I suspect you mean Benedict Cumberbatch who seems to be the flavour of the month with everyone at the minute. Can't wait for the next series of Sherlock to get here!
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Absolutely amazing actor. And alright, he's not bad on the eyes, either. (But that's as far as I can go.)

September!! :D :victory: And Lord Mofftroll has already said 'that not all questions will be answered.'. Git.
[Off-topic] :
The aztecs isn't ep1. wut?:confused: Unearthly child is the first episode.
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
And tell me what year did that run?

:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] :
1963
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Well wth. Netflix has aztecs as ep1 season 1.

But you are correct sir.

I bow down to your superior dw knowledge.

:beer:

I thought something was weird, no intro to anything.
[Off-topic] :
Oh maybe it meant the first episode of that story because they did it differently back then so it's episode one of the aztecs not episode one of the season
[Off-topic] :
Finally caught up with all the EPs.

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[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Man I could not watch the dreamland episodes...wtf did they have to make this a reboot/sims episode for. God that animation was so awful I could not watch more than 15 min. Did they run out of money or something? God that made family guy animation look good.

On another note im thinking a tartis themed paint job or vinyl would look sick on my scoob!

Hmmm if they only made a blow off valve that would emulate the the tardis sound.
[Off-topic] Archer:
What's a tartis? She sounds fit.

Time And Relative Tarts In Space.
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I don't even what is this
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
:rolleyes:

Edit:

That was funny :p.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Hey, we've all seen that when the Tardis takes human form, she is indeed sexy :D
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Qft!

Is it wrong to love a computer?:o

Think im going to start watching torchwood. I hope its decent. Maybe the good doctorvwill make a cameo.

:thumbup:
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Can't wait to watch the finale :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Can't wait to go to Trenzalore! Tezla, ShadowLea, and Archer, let's gooooooooo! And as for you other guys, you'll need to protect Earth from stuff and make sure the Adipose doesn't eat America.

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[Off-topic] Quinny899:
Spoilers!

He actually called it ½ an hour before it started
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
That. Was. Epic. Moffat is in top form! Lot's of throwbacks to the old series, too.

So. John Hurt. Certainly an acceptable choice. What do you guys think, 8th? We never did get the Time War on screen, and it's ending would certainly fit the pointers given in the episode. Could that be the 50th special? :eek: That'd be awesome.

Also, retire as a bee-keeper? :laugh: Seriously Moffat? :laugh: I wonder how much fanmail it took to get him to sneak that cameo reference in! :laugh:

I'm still sniggling (a cross between snickering and giggling) over that one.. :laugh:

He obviously saw the Screener. :rolleyes: There was no way he could've guessed that without seeing at least the first half of the episode.
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Stop posting spoilers I haven't watched it yet :banghead::eek: not reading your posts :sly:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
It's a good one, the bit with the name was brilliant, and the bit near the end when they................. Oooooooh and the very ending, not what i was expecting at all :D:cool:

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[Off-topic] Quinny899:
I put a spoilers in as follows:

Spoliers!
[hide]
...
[/hide]

Spoliers!

...
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
And why haven't you? :eek: If I can watch it live in the Netherlands... And it's 'on the net' as one would say, as well. ;)
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
^^^^^

THIS YOU BASTICHES!!!!

:p:p:p

And I still cant get bbc to work even via proxies...wtf.

'Oodly' enough some kind youtubers have posted some episodes of s7!
[Off-topic] :
That. Was. Freaking. Awesome.

I'm also very confused :eek:
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Yes, it was :eek:

Confused about what?
[Off-topic] :
I don't really get who the John hurt doctor is :confused:

And who was the original clara? Was she the modern day clara oswald?
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
It's not exactly clear (It's Moffat... He loves messing with viewers.), but Matt Smith signed a contract for Series 8 already. So it's not the 12th Doctor.

And The Doctor knew him and what he did specifically, so it's a past regeneration. The only Doctor we didn't have on screen who did some seriously dark stuff is the 8th Doctor, during the Time War. (There was some American film if I recall correctly, but that's not official.)

And yes, modern-day Clara was the original Clara.
[Off-topic] nishanty13:
Actually,

He is the "real" 9th Doctor or probably some unknown Doctor b/w 8th and 9th...and Matt is actually the 12th and David 11th...and similarly Eccleston is the 10th...now that's confusing.... :p....the doctor doesn't remembers/avoids his real 9th form. Matt pointed that John didn't follow his duty as "Doctor"...or didn't keep his title....maybe that's why he doesn't consider him as "The Real Doctor". He can't be 8th Doctor as he already had a specific appearance. AFAIK they won't put two faces of a same reincarnation.
[Off-topic] delsus:
A lot if people are thinking Hurt's Doctor is the Valeyard. For anyone who wasn't around for classic who he is a version of the doctor somewhere between his twelfth and thirteenth regeneration
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
This conversation is going to get confusing very quickly with all these hidden texts. And if we are goign to wait for *everyone* to catch up before discussing something, it'll be 2015 before we can discuss the recent episode. Seeing as how the first broadcast in most countries is over a year later. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to wait for that. By now the episode has been all over the internet, it's even on Youtube.

The Valeyard was played by Michael Jayston in Trial of a Time Lord. We've seen him on screen. And he was mentioned in the dialog. So probably not.
[Off-topic] delsus:
It doesn't really matter who played him, they have cast 2 actors as one character before, in the 5 doctors Richard Hurndall was cast as the first doctor because William Hartnell had already died, so there would be nothing wrong in my eyes bringing another actor to play the Valeyard.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
A valid point, certainly.

What makes me think it's not him is the book on the Time War we got a glimpse of. Moffat is exceptionally good at leaving traces of future episodes scattered through past episodes. (And those of us who follow his shows have turned 'putting every single frame under a microscope' into an olympic sport.)

And showing us the bit we haven't seen yet but has been an important part of the story (the Time War) seems more suited to a 50th aniversary special than what happened to a character we've already seen. :)

Then again, I could be wrong. He's thrown neck-breaking plottwists at us before. :)
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The doctor didn't deny that he was 11. I refuse to renumber them :mad:
[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Just watched the last one. John Hurt. That guy is old. My favourite was David T.
[Off-topic] ohraii:
Oh Dr. Who, whenever you satisfy one question, you give me a million more to ponder on.

I still love you all the same though, you clever show you. :beer:

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[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Ok idk whats going on but hurt cant possibly be the next doctor.

That totally goes against timelord physiology. You guys are being played.
[Off-topic] Archer:
He's a previous Doctor, one that we've not seen before. He was apparently the version of The Doctor that fought in the Time War.
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
I thought timewar dr. was the one which I call the the "one time" doctor. Have you seen that?

Before dr who restarted, there was a movie by fox (yes fox ) in usa. Did he not count as an actual doctor sincevit was made for usa?

Ugh... I gotta catch up.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Welcome to the world of shows made by Steven Moffat ;)

He recognised him. Which means it's not the 12th doctor. :rolleyes: He only knows his past faces, not his future ones. (crossing his own timeline and all.)

I already mentioned the USA film wasn't official. Do try to keep up. ;)
[Off-topic] freakboy13:
Dont get cheeky with me girl

:beer:
[Off-topic] nishanty13:
He is not the "Doctor". He didn't keep his title.... Matt himself said that....and maybe that's why he didn't count him as Doctor. He is probably his old reincarnation and I guess he's probably someone b/w 8th and 9th Doctor. I heard some saying he's his "real" 9th form.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Yeah, I saw it thanks :silly:

Read "The Doctor" as "The same person" instead.
[Off-topic] delsus:
The 1996 movie is completely none cannon but the actor that played him is still referred to as the 8th doctor.

I still think the Valeyard is the most logical idea because he is someone the doctor has seen, someone who is not referred to as the doctor yet he is still an incarnation of him.

Clara said she saw 11 faces but she didn't recognise Hurt's face, therefore he can't be a past doctor but a future incarnation who had crossed his own timeline. All the clues point to the Valeyard and looking at Moffat taking things from classic who now adds to my ideas.