yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
ELL4 is older than ELL5, ELL5 is older than ELLA. Its ELLA we are talking about here.

That last character (4, 5, 6, A) Is the revision of Samsung build. They go 1-9 then A-Z so if it ends in a letter, its newer than if it ends in a number.

Hope that makes sense.

The bootloader plays no role. All in post 1
[Galaxy S III General] balayogesh:
Jelly bean latest India OTA updated one. 4.1.1
[Galaxy S III General] samppl:
With this problem so widespread, even on "stock" phones, you'd think it wouldn't matter whether or not your phone had been rooted with custom firmwares, or whatever. Clearly there is a hardware fault that appears no matter what kind of software is running. Has anyone actually tried to put a modded phone through warranty? Would the success or failure of trying to get a modded phone replaced depend on the country you live in, and local consumer laws?

In any case, mine is slightly sideways from standard but if it dies, I'm definitely going back to the store I bought it from and kicking up a stink about it, seeing as it seems so wide spread.

also emmc brickbug says my chip is insane (for anyone who might want to add it to some sort of list). One of those cases where the phone matches the user I suppose :D
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I guess warranty does depend on the region. I can very confidently say that in case my phone screws up and since I am on custom rom and kernel, I would be point blankly refused warranty. Hell I am not even sure if I went with a stock firmware, they would honor the warranty or not.
[Galaxy S III General] samppl:
Which country are you in?
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

India
[Galaxy S III General] samppl:
Dude at work is still on 4.1.1 and he uses the OTA updates, I got 4.1.2 via Kies when it popped up telling me a new firmware had been released.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
IMO, just use whatever you want. Be on the old bootloader and with counters reset, to be safe, but don't restrict yourself from flashing ROMs/recoveries or rooting, etc. Not much point letting device problems rule the way you use it! Risking a bit of warranty-money to get the experience you want is a worth-it compromise, isn't it? :)

1) Yes, possible

2) Not sure - don't know how it flashes; if it boots into recovery then yeah, it's safe if your recovery's safe

3) You can't have System Status as Official with a custom recovery/ROM

4) Er, so?
[Galaxy S III General] quebec1:
1) ok

2) i have phil recover 4..00-b4, so in theory I could use without problems ofin mobile pro

3) ok

4) for information

other question:

but xxell5.xxell6 and xxell4, are they bootloaders safe?
[Galaxy S III General] ninthsense:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Have you tried samsung service in india before or you just thought that up yourself.

You will need these two things in order to avail the warranty in india :

1 tax invoice of your phone purchase.

2 no water damage.

Nobody cares about custom roms etc.. probably they do not even know if they exist. But better to flash a stock one before approaching them.
[Galaxy S III General] BeRniTo:
The app has been updated to detect SGS3 and compare the chip info with the affected one. :)

My result:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It's not really important to amend that. Besides, 1.4.1 still doesn't detect all s3s, including mine.

So long as people can get the chip and firmware version, its not really an issue, hence not being bothered to amend the text :)
[Galaxy S III General] sembre:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Waw
[Galaxy S III General] BeRniTo:
You can get it using Triangle Away 2.37. Worked for me. :)
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Me to using Omega roms and download mode shows everything official

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] rezapatel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Link to the new triangle away pls :thumbup:

Sent from my Galaxy S3
[Galaxy S III General] cocous:
me to but with XXELLA bootloader after reboot change all statistics

with the XXELL4 change only if you go to recovery

when is better to use this if it safe. it is?

somebody to have the XXELL4 bootloader for flashing from recovery?
[Galaxy S III General] eRPeeX:
Here and/or here
[Galaxy S III General] joanquro:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

My system status is official and my rom and recovery are both custom (at least in download mode). I flashed the ICS bootloader and used triangle away 2.37 to reset the counter and the status.

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[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I live in Alaska, USA I am running Omega rom should I use XXELLC or keep updating to latest Omega releases which now is XXEMA1 I'm assuming newer versions also have the updated kernel fix right?..... I also am becoming crazy checking my battery temperature for over heating what is a good running temp...? Between 30c and 40c?

Thanx

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Regarding kernel, so u are safe , regarding recovery , it depends on the version you have ...

---------- Post added at 01:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:51 AM ----------

Yes , newer versions also have the updated kernel fix.

Regarding temperature, tt depends on what u do with your phone ... but no need crazy checking if under 40c
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

2.37 only?

2.60 Didn't work for me.

---------- Post added at 07:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:48 AM ----------

Based on a feedback from another user who had hardware failure and was told it is because of water damage
[Galaxy S III General] ninthsense:
Suggestion - take a picture in front of the service center guy of the blue sticker behind the battery, which is the only thing used to determine if there was any water damage or not.
[Galaxy S III General] zadusimple:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Ok..

I am running Neat Lite 1.5.1, Siyah 1.8.9 with latest bootloader and also PhiLz recovery.

My phone has affected chip bought from UK. It was running all smooth and fine until this morning. Was sitting idle. All of a sudden when i picked it up only blue led was there (it ws not charging) and i could see proximity sensor also on. Screen was blank and black. . Power button not working. I pulled the battery. Phone restarted. Now everything is working fine a d smooth.

Is this sign of Sudden death or merely a crash? Never experienced this before. My phone is exactly 180 days old.

Sent from a better Galaxy designed for humans!
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Tried 2.37 - doesn't work for me.
[Galaxy S III General] owl74:
no not necessarily, but I suggest you flash the latest rom from samfirmware but you can still stay rooted if you flash via mobileOdin. You can get rid of crap using titanium backup. Just in case your phone dies, at least you are stock...
[Galaxy S III General] Zammo76:
About a week a go my phone started freezing and switching off and each time I rebooted it came up with the message "Currently unable to download please try again later". In the end I did a factory reset and the message stopped happening but the freezing was occasionally happening for about another day, then it strangely stopped and the phone has been fine since.

Someone linked to this thread on another I reported this on so just to be sure I decided to run the eMMC checker and it says that my chip is susceptible to sudden death (VTU00M, revision 0xf1) and is an insane chip.

Does Samsung's most recent firmware address this, an if not can I get them to replace my phone even if it doesn't die?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] quebec1:
i tryed triangle away 2.37, 2.50 and 2.60 and these don't work for me the counter it's ok, but the status is modificated.

What do you bootloader ics use?

J flashed from recovery xxale8.

other question

1) but bootloader xxell4, xxll5 and xxll6 are they good for sudden death?
[Galaxy S III General] KeesStolk:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I am on the ella bootloader and 2.37 works without problems, all official till I enter recovery.

After entered recovery, I need to use triangle away again to get it all official.

But on my wife's s3, Blue one and also ella bootloader, 2.55 works without problems, not tried 2.6 yet.

But also with here's, when entered recovery, I need to run triangle away again.
[Galaxy S III General] cocous:
me to but i have the XXELL4 bootloader and only if enter to recovery change the counter.

the XXELLA bootloader after reboot change the counter to 1

you have XXELLA bootloader and works?

anyone to give us the XXELL4 bootloader to flash from recovery?
[Galaxy S III General] KeesStolk:
Just checked it to be 100% sure.

I let both s3 just rebooted and turned it off completely.

Then booted into download mode with the 3 button combo (the way sammy would do to check) and still all say, official.

So again, i stick with what i wrote.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36692257#post36692257
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
you can get rid of the "modified" status and get a "normal status"again :

1. make sure you have the latest play version of TA (2.55 will do the job fine)

2.reset counter if necessary

3. allow trackers on in TA

4. enable the "system modified workaround" (in TA)

that should do it
[Galaxy S III General] quebec1:
ok i disable supersu 0.99 free and i installed supersu pro for enable the "system modified workaround".

now i install and lauch ta 2.55, the program tell me that the counter is on 0, and so i put check in allow trackers and in system modified workaround. Rebbot the phone but the system status is modificated
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
1. have you selected the system modified workaround prior to reboot?

2. what rom are you running?
[Galaxy S III General] quebec1:
1) yes l selected modified workaround prior to reboot

2) omega v 39 with ics bootloader xxale8
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Thanks for the suggestion. Was fiddling with the phone and flashed vikingway once more and viola. Device status normal and counters on the download mode not showing custom. So I am going to stick to this combination. Rooted, on Philz recovery, perseus kernel on vikingway with all counters reset.
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
hard luck then, AFAIK, you'll always get status modified, unless you revert to stock rom.
[Galaxy S III General] sam77744:
I have 2.55 TA but not seen "system modified workaround. u have apk file for 2.55?or link
[Galaxy S III General] quebec1:
for use this optione j have installed supersu pro
[Galaxy S III General] zadusimple:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Update:

My camera is not working since this crash. Says Camera Failed, don't know what to do?

Edit: Camera is working fine now after reboot. But all of a sudden my settings for e.g. keyboard settings have changed. I dont know if this is Rom issue or this is related to the SDS OR

Is it possible that my first issue "when my phone went into SOD" it was due to a bug in a ROM or Kernel and i thought this is happening due to SDS.

As of now my phone is working perfectly smooth.

Please suggest.

Sent from a better Galaxy designed for humans!
[Galaxy S III General] dimi22:
Hey,

I flashed Hydrx rom with philz recovery and used triangle away but i can't get rid of the red exclamation mark. on every reboot flash counter sets itself back to 1 and custom.

Does anyone know a safe method to remove this?
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hi dimi,

How have you been doing? :D

A custom kernel will always display the exclamation mark, only stock one won't.

Latest bootloaders check on each reboot.
[Galaxy S III General] dimi22:
Everything fine, thnx, with you?

The strange thing is that my friend has exactly the same rom and recovery and doesnt have the red mark. how can that be possible?
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
AW: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

He uses an older bootloader.

Taper di Tap with my S3 @195 days
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Solution is: ICS Bootloader.

Follow this thread if you want to get rid of the red exclamation mark and get everything on official in download mode although using a custom ROM/Kernel:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2083860
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is there any app or test out there to see if our emmc has been damaged from purchase till applying the SDS fix so we can know if our phone is gonna make it? Also does it seem that the New kernels are working it seems like SD reports have dropped off.

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Nope, there isn't any way to know; in fact devs aren't even sure if the 'wear' hypothesis can be accepted, there's another theory involving firmware trying to access invalid memory blocks. IMO, latter is becoming less likely because in the last few days quite a few SDS reports have come in where the devices were already patched. That answers your second question too.
[Galaxy S III General] brainimpact:
Anyone know where I can get the new Bootloader packaged in a zip to be flashed in recovery? Just think its handy to keep it on a SD in case I ever need to start using Download mode and PC
[Galaxy S III General] Born2Model3D:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hi guys,

Why isn't omega roms added to the list? I just enquired on the omega thread and they said it contains the fix.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Here.
[Galaxy S III General] blyx21:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I think omega is using stock kernel. Op post fix kernel and recovery whether stock or custom.
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
Hi

I wanna to install a Deodexed rom like [ZSEMA1 4.1.2] Deodexed Stock Roms:

1Q: Will my phone be safe ?

2Q: I have the new bootloader, If I use this rom, is it like a custom rom and bootloader detect it as custom and red exclamation mark will be appeared and counter resset to 1 in each boot ?
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
1. Why you would want to stay stock if you're willing to deodex is beyond me, but that's your choice. Deodexing is completely unrelated to SDS - former works on the OS layer, latter is much lower - eMMC firmware

2. Yes, you'll get the red exclamation point if anything is custom
[Galaxy S III General] abelle_abelle:
I'm going to update to XXEMA1 using Odin

then root using Cf-auto root

and install custom phil recovery with Yank555 kernel so i'm covered right ?

i dont care about the red mark
[Galaxy S III General] brainimpact:
Thats seems to be the old one what people are downgrading to, to remove red exclamation on boot, I'm looking for the one that causes it that updated with XXELLA+ Roms
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Download any new full ROM from sammobile.com then. It is packaged within.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
From Post 1...
[Galaxy S III General] enr88:
R: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yes you're covered from sds

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[Galaxy S III General] zadusimple:
Update :

I did not reformat my system, however i fixed permission , wiped cache and dalvik cache and since then my phone is running super smooth (been 24 hours and counting). Do you Guys think the first thing that happened to me was a mere crash or it might be related to SDS. Just asking your views!

Sorry for my bad english!
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
As far as XDA devs think know ... Samsung is not very talkative about SDS :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
Hi all is the applications mobile odin pro 3.57 when I use the EverRoot option to flash a rom stock for example GT-I9300-XEF-I9300XXELLC-1356687081, can I protect of the sudden death ? or can i Flash a kernel and a recovery custom like kernel siya 1.9 and recovery phils b21 to be protected ?

thanks advance.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
"mobile odin pro" app does'nt itself protect from SDS , but you can use it to flash "safe" ROM (XELLC) , safe kernel (siyah) and safe recovery (philz) .. and EverRoot option to stay root
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
So If I use EverRoot option in mobile odin pro to have a root I don't protected it for SDS I must have to flash kernel and recovery ? if I am on a stock rom with the root With EverRoot that's it ?

thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
No root option does'nt itself protect from SDS. Look at post 1 for beeing safe http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
Yes Of course but if I flash with mobil odin pro with everoot option my s3 with stock rom XELLC, will be I protected against SDS ? or I must flash kernel like siyah 1.9 ? is the fact to have root the phone with mobil odin pro made ​​me lose the protected against the SDS ?

thanks sorry for my bad english
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Stock XXELLC should be a safe rom/kernel already..... (NO NEED TO ROOT) Then root and flash Philz patched CWM recovery or another patched recovery

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Root is NOT mandatory for being safe . If u install XELLC (with Odin, OTA , Kies ...) u will be safe
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
Si I have just to flash the recovery not the kernel that's right ?

thanks
[Galaxy S III General] Notor1ouS-:
im still on XELLA with the latest kernels (yank) / recovery(philz) for SDS fix, so is the XELLA safe then?
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
I u install XELLC rom (the way u want) . U do NOT need any kernel or recovery for being save !

---------- Post added at 07:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:02 PM ----------

XELLA kernel / recovery are safe too ... if u installed safe custom kernel / recovery u are still safe ... but no more
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
Ok but if the phone is rooted, may I need to flash kernel or recovery, if I am on a stock rom like XELLC with the root which I have mobil odin pro ?
[Galaxy S III General] cammel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If you flash a stock firmware (XXELLA and up) using Mobile Odin pro you are safe. It doesn't matter if you choose to root it using everoot or not, it will flash a safe kernel and recovery since they come with stock firmware.

What I don't know if it's safe is that special mode that mobile odin uses to flash all the stuff... I think chainfire should let us know...

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[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

XXELLC comes with patched kernel and recovery if you are stock/rooted should be safe

Galaxy S3

Omega Rom V37
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Yes I agree

mobile odin is safe wait to flash and avoid to go in download mode which is not safe if u have old bootloader.
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
Phil I have an old bootloader:Restore_Bootloader_XXBLFB mustI have changed it ? I have restore old bootloader to restore counter to 0 with triangle away?
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
U need to Restore_Bootloader_XXBLFB if u have installed the new one (XELLA... XELLC) and have tringle issue
[Galaxy S III General] akhil333:
iam thinking that iam in safe side from SDS b'coz i have...

ROM: HydRx-D v2.3.0

Kernel: Siyah v1.8.9

Recovery: Philz (latest)

Bootloader: old one... (changed to clear red exclamation)

am i in safe side? Please correct me...
[Galaxy S III General] cammel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I have the new bootloader so I have no problem about that.

What I don't know is "where or what" is that special mode that mobile odin pro uses when flashing a firmware...

And about triangle away I had no problem with the new bootloader at all. I have the counter at zero, all official (under download mode) and normal status on the phone but still in rooted. (of course, I use stock recovery and kernel)

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[Galaxy S III General] pijindrin:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hi guys. What do I need for my device to show everything official in the download mode?. I'm running paranoid Rom with yanks kernel and Philz recovery. I Downgrade to old bootloader in order to make the red exclamation mark to disappear and triangle away to reset counter. So far I have :

Counter: 0

Binary: official

Status: Custom

What should I do to turn status from custom to official? Thanks!

122 days and counting!
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
According to post 1 , u r safe . specially if u do NOT flash in download mode ..
[Galaxy S III General] akhil333:
ok got that.... if i want to go back to stock then i can use mobile odin pro, which is safe (i think)
[Galaxy S III General] cocous:
Απ: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Use triangle away v2.37 or v2.55 to have official status:)

If use new bootloader just not enter in recovery mode

If you go in recovery mode then your current change to 1:)

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[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Yes no triangle issue when stock.

But what are u suspecting with mobile odin way to flash ?
[Galaxy S III General] megafan:
Ok guys i'm done with the reading and thinking what is safe, what's not, if i do that more my head will explode :).

i'm runing CM 10.1 temasek unoficial 26.01.2013, slyah 1.8.9, philz recovery 4.. i restored old ICS bootloader for sake of triangle away to reset counters and system status. Tried TA 2.55, 2.37 with superSu Pro and with all options in TA on-off, i'm not been able to get system status official, caunter is 0, binary official but system status CUSTOM no matter what i try (instaled couple of older bootloaders). Tried this on UltimaRom and same CUSTOM. Is this because i have dual boot option with temasek and ultimarom?

Is there any way that i can have rooted phone with any rom and system status official and counter 0. Will i get it flashing stock rom with mobile odin pro and stay rooted with everoot? If that will do the job what options i must check in mobile odin pro, because i have never flashed with mobile odin before. thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S III General] cammel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Nothing in particular, it's just that I don't know (this doesn't mean it's unsafe) what or where is that special mode that mobile odin pro boots to flash things. It's a special recovery, I know that, but is it safe? Where is it located?? That's what I don't know..

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[Galaxy S III General] pijindrin:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I ran triangle away to reset counter to 0. But there's nothing else I can do with it. This is what I got when trying to allow trackers

122 days and counting!
[Galaxy S III General] grebarne:
phil you are rooted your phone with CF-Auto-Root-m0-m0xx-gti9300 of chainfire ?

Galaxy SIII I9300:

Version of base band:I9300DXELK1

Version Kernel: 3.0.31-836582 se.infra@SEP-97#1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jan 15 14:17:21 KST 2013

numero of version: JZO54K.I9300XXEMA2

Rooted with Mobile Odin Pro 3.57

with this Rom We gain in reactivity, fluidity.

http://hotfile.com/dl/191081422/133...-GT-I9300-MM1-I9300XXEMA2-1358227330.zip.html
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
AW: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

As far as I know, Mobile Odin uses a temp recovery to flash. And as far as I know nobody knows if this is safe.

Taper di Tap with my S3 @196 days
[Galaxy S III General] cammel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

That's what I am saying.. Only chainfire or maybe some other dev knows that.. I have no idea at all

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