yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yes. mnt/sdcard = /data/media That is why fuser used. Because /data is ext, how can /data/media (sdcard) be ext and use Windows? Not possible so /data/media is fuser. Moving /sdcard to /extSdCard will reduce writes to /data slightly but all those writes occurred in the fuse file system within /data/media NOT ext file system anyway, so I cannot see how writing to /sdcard could actually contribute to SDS. I may be being blind but it just seems unlikely to me.
[Galaxy S III General] philgalaxs3:
Fully agree and never have thought you may be being blind ! I probably bad expressed if you feel that , sorry.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
No no, its just a "disclaimer". It's nothing you said, don't worry :)

Just because I rule something out, doesn't mean it's fact, that's all I mean. I cannot see a reason why writes to fuser can cause SDS, but that doesn't mean that writes to fuser can't cause SDS. I may have overlooked something, but at the moment, I cannot see a reason
[Galaxy S III General] rezapatel:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Thanks. It actually swaps the 2 so it allows you to have apps all the way up to the size of your SD, in my case 32gb instead of default 16gb,so I am good with it for its own job.

In regards to steps on the first post, I am totally with you and obviously made those changes the first day they came out ;)

Sent from my Galaxy S3
[Galaxy S III General] ClaretJ:
Hello, well for what you can read in all these pages that could be 3 things:

1. Your phone has already some damage on the mmc so, IT COULD I am not saying it will but it could already be on it`s way to that undesirable faith

2. The fix on XXELLA is actually working so everytime the bug happens the fix shuts down your phone to avoid it

3. And it could be something entirely different, sorry but nobody is actually sure how this SDS happens :eek:
[Galaxy S III General] nick_12987:
great info.. :good:
[Galaxy S III General] xneoon:
I think the mine come to die :(
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

RIP S3 :D
[Galaxy S III General] exge:
my S3 died when it was using 0xf1 and when i got it back from samsung, it had 0xf7 rev.

does that mean that they changed to a safe mboard?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Probably. Its safe
[Galaxy S III General] qtwrk:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Well, in that case we all wish it could 2rd thing you said
[Galaxy S III General] 101gamzer:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

My s3 is VTU00M on fx01chip running everything stock not rooted 4.1.1 Will my s3 die it is showing no sign of sds
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You are not safe so possibly / probably
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I guess if phone freeze after applying patch,its going to die soon.
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

@ROOTSU did Samsung replace your mobo with OXF1 firmware and how long after did you apply the SDS kernel fix? Do you know when Samsung started sending out the OxF7 firmware was it towards the end off the year?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Yes they did

A month later perhaps?

I dont know. Anyone with 0xf7 could give production date, then we can find oldest
[Galaxy S III General] crnkoj:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hey, I couldn't find it anywhere, so asking here. Do all international 16GB sgs3 have thé same faulty emmc chip? I'm asking as I had two of different age, one bought in September 2012 and one in January 2013 and both carry the same chip. Is there a way to check when it was actually produced/assembled?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] ponepo:
The last 0xf1 and the first 0xf7 have November as production date of the chip.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
No

I only know how to get the production date of the eMMC from the eMMC check app. The handset, not sure.
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
AW: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Thats true. They switched over mid of November.

Taper di Tap with my S3 @211 days
[Galaxy S III General] blyx21:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

So how many 0xf1 been manufactured then...for sure it's about millions.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
i was checking my s3 16gb international with the emmc check app it says date 05/2012 and type VTU00M and Rev 0xf1. I had purchased the phone in 06/12. It also says SGS3 Sudden death? Yes. Insane chip. :( i have been having the freezing issues over the last few days. Going to take it tomm and see if i can get it repaired/replaced before it dies completely.
[Galaxy S III General] crnkoj:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

My second one, the current one, was bought in Jan 2013 and it says emmc is from 9/2012. So I guess old stock... Can't check the other one as I sold it a few weeks ago.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
The main features of XXELLC Android 4.1.2 updates

Fixes the infamous Exynos 4 vulnerability

Fixed the Galaxy S3 sudden death issue

Multi-View or Multi-Windows.

Page Buddy.

A revamped Gallery application UI.

Notification panel with customization support.

The Brightness Slider in the Notification Panel can be disabled in this new update.

Smart Rotation.

Page Artist app and the Group Cast app.

New Swype-like keyboard that has been demoed in the Android 4.2 OS.

Multiple enhancements and other small features were also added so that you’ll get the best possible Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean Experience.

:)
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Attaching a screen shot.

The main features of XXELLC Android 4.1.2 updates

Fixes the infamous Exynos 4 vulnerability

Fixed the Galaxy S3 sudden death issue

:)
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Sorry your post is confusing, what is the point you are making
[Galaxy S III General] GalloFTW:
Hey guys, so it turns out, i have that dangerous version of firmware and/or chip ---> the (16 GB) VTU00M, revision 0xf1 eMMC

If i read correctly though, this maybe not a problem if i never "rooted"? I unfortunately don't know what that exactly means, but i guess i never did it. :D I always let my phone install the new jelly, i don't know if that's important or not. Oh yeah, i guess it's clear, that SDS thingy did not yet happen to my phone, hopefully that stays the case, i just kinda got worried, because i got my phone as a present for my birthday, and it was purchased in another country. So warranty would be tricky i guess, if even available, as i've read about this problem. Can you guys tell me if i should be worried about this? If yes, what should i do to prevent it? I'm really a total noob, so please forgive my stupidity, and go easy on me. ;) I've read the OP numerous times, but i have no idea what those lines means, sorry again. Thank you very much for your answers and help in advance, it is much appreciated.

Zoli
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If you are not rooted make it sure your phone is up to date as possible and that is about all you can do at the moment for me also I don't leave my phone on the charger longer than I have to but it makes no difference its just something I do
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Nothing to do with rooted so you need to check what version of from you have, if you have updated recently you should be on a safe-ish version with the fix
[Galaxy S III General] invinciblecc:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I have asked this question before and am asking this again please someome reply this time

I know abour SDS and am on affected chip version so I have done everything there is I m on zsemb1(omegav41) pjills recovery Yanks kernel

Now is SDS confirmed to be a software issue and am I supposedly safe as per the info we have to charge all night

So SDS is not caused by overnight charging right ?????

Finally enjoying s3

Yanks kernel

Sotmax v13

Zram enabled

Swap enabled
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Read the first post the answers are all there for what is known. Basically no one can guarantee you are safe.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Well i was just trying to mention that above firmware has the fix for this issue.:)
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
The fix isn't in the rom its the kernel and recovery. All kernels XXELLX and above are supposed to have the fix.

Read the first post it has the info in there.
[Galaxy S III General] siavash_Skh:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is your words about sds fix come from an official samsung source ? Or just you see it some where?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Still nothing comes from a Samsung source
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
IMHO just enjoy your phone and your preferred ROM, make use of latest updates from booloaders up (nothing else you can do at the moment), forget about sds, no one knows what it is and what triggers it. JUST FORGET ABOUT SDS and live your life, after all it's just a phone? in other words a tool not a vital element.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
I read it here..

http://beingandroid.com/2013/01/14/install-xxellc-android-4-1-2-official-jelly-bean-firmware/

:cowboy:
[Galaxy S III General] GalloFTW:
First of all thank you guys for your reply. I checked the "about device" settings, and it says i'm up to date. But my Kernel version is XXELLA, also my baseband version. Do i have to update something manually still, or i'm ok-ish at the moment?
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
also from my posted screen shot plz tell me that do i need to update anything ??? post no #1763 :cyclops:
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
This isn't official. :mad:
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
AW: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Read post "1"

Taper di Tap with my S3 @212 days
[Galaxy S III General] QuaQuaRaQuaQua:
Trying to figure out how to stop these sudden freezes...

Full wipe before installing..

ROM: Omega v42

Kernel: The one that comes with Omega v42

CWM: Philz_touch_4.35 (6.0.2.8)

Chip: VTU00M 0xf1

The phone still freezed up randomly. Sometimes within a minute after reboot, other times after a few hours...

I have now installed the SiyahKernel s3-v1.8.9 kernel. The phone seems better, and don't freeze that often, but still freezes...

Now, in a last desperate attempt I've pulled out the SD-Card after the last freeze....

Does anybody know other things i should try?? Other configurations??
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
I usually flash it via PC Odin. And only put the PDA. With the pda only, will it make the trick?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
PDA is the entire ROM, Kernel, Modem, Bootloader, Recovery etc.... Its just in a single .tar file so yes, it will do the trick.
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Thank you. Ill download uk ella now. Kinda upset, cuz i thought all ella's should work. I had LUX ella uploaded jan 2013, and it didnt had the fix.
[Galaxy S III General] thegh0sts:
oh well, had to put it out there cos it would be the most obvious place to go rather than in the kernel with what now sounds like a work around.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Have you even read the first post?

People like rootSU give really good support here and this question was answered so many times, in this thread alone. Is it really so hard to read the first post? And if you don`t understand something, then ask specifically what you don`t understand because right now everything you need to know about your question is on page one first post.
[Galaxy S III General] vostikan:
I will repeat the request - please, can you unpack a kernel of ELL6 and be convinced as there are these lines?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Well LL* = 2012, December. True 2013, January releases will be KA*

How do you know the Lux LLA doesn't contain the fix? I didn't know there was a Lux LLA...
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Just to be sure.

United Kingdom (BTU) PDA: I9300XXELLA CSC: I9300OXAELLA Version: 4.1.2 Date: 2012-12-24.

Is that the one i must be looking for?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
did you see his earlier response?

Thats the one although before you jump in, please see this amendment to post 1...
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Search LUX latest firmwares in Sammobile. It has the PDA: I9300XXELLA CSC: I9300OXXELL1 Date: 2013-01-04. But when i flashed into my device and used eMMC checker, it still appear 0xf1. It didnt changed to 0xf7.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
0xf1 will never change. That is information hardcoded on the eMMC. These fixes do not change what you see in the app. The app shows you which eMMC is physically installed. To get 0xf7, you need new Motherboard. It says this in post 1. Maybe I should reword that to make it clearer.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
It's not in post 1.

XXELLA, if not for your region, needs to be flashed via Odin, as per post 1
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Ok..! last questions then. Am i covered with this LUX Ella or not? How can i know? or the only one that works is the UK version?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
I'm not sure at this stage to be honest. I would assume so but I cannot be sure. All I know regarding stock is what developers have said.

The kernel binaries will need comparing with BTU ELLA but I don't know what to look for myself. There have also been reports that ELL5 contains some of the strings in ELLA, but does not fix the issue.

All I can say is watch this space for more information.
[Galaxy S III General] lucentwin:
Thx u so much rootSU. I guess ill have to wait to see what happens. The thing is that i bought this phone through amazon.com without warranty. So thats why im so worried.
[Galaxy S III General] maximo12345:
Did anybody know this?

"The patch additionally checks that the firmware date is 2012/04/13 and only applies the commands then.

So you need type: VTU00M revision: 0xf1 and internal firmware date of 2012/04/13 for the bug to have an effect. The date which eMMC brickbug checker reads is the production date as it seems.

So there might be phones with VTU00M/0xf1 out there which are not affected, I don't know if that makes sense in regard that if the revision would even be the same then."

If I open The eMMC Brickbug Check app my date is 2012/05, so asa far as I can understand my phone should not be affected...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36473044&postcount=2769

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check&hl=en
[Galaxy S III General] Bushido76:
That's not right. The dates displayed by the app are not read from the emmc firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] bry4ntt:
If you read further you'd find:

'No, the date shown in the eMMC app is the production date, the internal firmware date is something else and not possible to read out through normal methods.'

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36473767&postcount=2775
[Galaxy S III General] ducky1979:
+1 for 05/2012 so hopefully we will be ok, I've done all I can anyway so if it dies it dies, and as this is a known problem with Samsung hardware components they have said they will fix within the Samsung 2 year warranty regardless if the phone is rooted or not. I read this on a Google search, so to be fair if it fails give Samsung a ring and they will send you an envelope to send your phone in for repair. I'm gonna stop worrying about it now.

Long live the s3!
[Galaxy S III General] JPsy Droid:
You can try the unmount /system /data /cache & fsck advise... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37432509&postcount=63

or try whether the MediaScanner is responsible for it... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37927638&postcount=39

THX for testing...
[Galaxy S III General] QuaQuaRaQuaQua:
Thank you for the suggestions..

Both your links assumes some SD-card problems. So, i'm gonna try the phone without the SD-card and see if it freezes.

If the phone don't freeze up, i'll try to just format the SD-card with a PC and try again with the newly PC-formatted SD-card.

I'll report back with the results..

Btw, the phone has been up for 37 minutes now without any problems. This is pretty good today
[Galaxy S III General] GalloFTW:
Indeed, it is there, looks like i'm safe. Thank you guys, hopefully it will be all right.

Best regards.

Zoli
[Galaxy S III General] QuaQuaRaQuaQua:
Nahh... Froze again.. But not so often now.. I think i'll format the internal-SD and see what happens..
[Galaxy S III General] silentwitness1:
honestly i dont think that would work, i have the same issue i have removed everything and gone back to complete stock unrooted with no apps or data on it. Removed the memory card ended up going to samsung and asked them, they re flashed the latest 4.1.2 firmware and said the issue will be solved. But i have not had any luck having the same issues still. Going to go back to them again tomm and see what i can do.
[Galaxy S III General] mayankrahul1991:
only rooted no custom rom

hi, i recently update my sgs3 to 4.1.2 and rooted using cwm .i have no custom rom installed ,just plain simple rooted .

i want to know wether i am protected from sudden death issue or is there sumthing i have to do to protect my phone from sudden death..

thanx in advance
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You must read post 1. EVERYTHING you need to know is there!

What do I need to be "Safe"?

Do I need any particular Bootloader? Possibly - Update from AndreiLUX suggests download mode could be affected*

Do I need an Update 7 fix Based Kernel? Yes - Kernel is where the fix is

Do I need any particular ROM? No - The Kernel is where the fix is

Do I need a Recovery with Update 7 fixes? Yes - Recovery uses a Kernel too so it also needs fixes
[Galaxy S III General] mayankrahul1991:
sorry if i could not get wat u r sayng

the first post says that if u have stock firmware installed and have not rooted your device then u r safe.

this is where i am getting confused .since i have rooted my device does it mean i am not safe ????

when i check update for my device if says that your device has been modified and updates are not aplicable.

but i have no custom kernel or any custom rom .i rooted ny device to remove sum bloatwares(i removed sum wallpaers yahoo news and finance).

i think nw you can clarify my doubt..
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Depends on how and when you rooted it.
[Galaxy S III General] gadgetcraze:
Do these kernels and recoveries change the way a phone is charger? I ask this because my car charger and a spare samsung charger that I used earlier do not charge my phone anymore. The red LED comes on but the phone does not charge. I can not definitely pinpoint whether the change has come after I switched to JB or because I installed custom kernels.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Does it not charge - battery still drains at normal rate - or does it charge at such a slow rate that the charge remaining seems to stay constant?

If it's the latter, that happens. Fastest way to charge is switch off the phone and connect to an original Samsung wall charger.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You're confused because you're still not reading post 1 correctly. Read sentence 2 and 3 of "stock" section. I really shouldn't need to point things out like this
[Galaxy S III General] nhactrehn:
Samsung has to response

Samsung mus fix this death soom..
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
'Soom' indeed.
[Galaxy S III General] samppl:
Yep, this is what I'm doing. I'm just going about things as normal, not worrying whether or not my phone suddenly dies because all my stuff is stored on external SD cards. The worst that will happen is that I will be late for work one day if it dies during the night (my phone is my alarm clock :p)
[Galaxy S III General] Breki:
HI

Please help

I have an i9300 with Omega_v13.1_XXBLH3_ICS.zip and Siyah-s3-v1.5.3-CWM kernel. Yesterday turned off and now i can see just the Samsung text if I turned on. I can turn it to download mode, but just.

What I have to do. I'm confused.

Breki
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Didn't mean to thank... Contact your carrier or Samsung only a new Motherboard can fix your issue sounds like sudden death sorry
[Galaxy S III General] Breki:
Thank U
[Galaxy S III General] paulrh:
The wife's phone this evening received another OTA update. 59 Mbytes. Phone is completely stock.
[Galaxy S III General] Rahulrao:
is the omega rom v42 save from SDS??
[Galaxy S III General] nmeuret:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

yes
[Galaxy S III General] kitaru_hukawa:
Now I used ARHD 22.1 + Perseus Kernel for covered from SD case...

I hope that can be solving :o
[Galaxy S III General] migz012788:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You can also add the recovery that is safe from SD :)

Sent from my GT-I9300 powered by Omega Rom + Perseus Kernel + PhilZ touch Recovery
[Galaxy S III General] jay797:
Hi all. I have a Galaxy S3 & its rooted but still running stock rom? I rooted it about 4months ago but didn't do anything else. A couple of weeks after that I had some issues of my phone being sooo slow & lagging that I thought I had done something wrong, but that issue seemed to resolve itself?? I don't honestly know if I received an update that resolved it or not but thought nothing more about it! Anyway fast forward to now, Last night it was working fine, then this morning it appears my phone is dead (sudden death?) I don't know if the battery was low & it ran out but now it won't charge or turn on!!! I've tried the wall charger & on the pc, but nothing!

Now my questions are; Is my phone 'dead'? What else can I do? Have I lost all my photo's/data? I have (I think??) backed up my phone with Titanium backup but I have never tried to 'reinstall' anything using Titanium, so I don't know if I have or not?? Sorry for the 'silly' questions but I'm a complete 'noobie' to all this technical stuff!!

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me

Jay
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Just remove the battery for a minute and put it back in. If you can't get anything after that (Assuming your battery has charge) then yes, it sounds like SDS.

If you backed up your data to a PC or at least a removable SD card, you will have some data. Anything only on internal memory will be lost as Samsung will have to change the motherboard.
[Galaxy S III General] jay797:
I know its probably been asked before......but will Samsung be able to tell if I have modified the phone by rooting it & will that then invalidate my warranty?

Many thanks

Jay
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Not if it doesn't boot at all
[Galaxy S III General] MrNiick:
Apparently I'm "infected", all though I have Perseus Kernel Alpha 31 and Philz Touch Wiz... so I guess I'm "safe"

Thanks for the warning @rootSU

I'm using foxhound 2.0 here, that brings PhilZ Touch and Perseus Alpha 31

If you need, my signature have the links for both FoxHound and Perseus Kernel

May god be with you all that are "infected" as I am :)

​
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Perseus kernel is already linked. Rom is irrelevant. Thanks though
[Galaxy S III General] MrNiick:
===

I know but, If you use FoxHound 2.0, it already have all the stuff that you need to be "safe"

so.. just helping ;)​
[Galaxy S III General] fourty.saver:
I think it

I think i'm covered. I've crDroid 13.1, Siyah 1.8.9 and the PhilZ 4.35.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Crdroid means nothing. Its kernel and recovery only that is important. ...and bootloader
[Galaxy S III General] ali4796:
Bootloader is important if we use download mode. Am i right?

So if we dont use download mode it is not needed to upgrade it !?
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Sounds like some developers are getting closer to solving this Damn SDS

Issue no thanks to Samsung