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[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
I did... But I don't always ask a question so I just double thanks by typing it !

Sorry for the flood but I had to, since I followed this topic since its beginning so once I typed a question I wanted to give some credits to you and rootSU for hes delightful work&support.
[Galaxy S III General] ottoajalah:
Alright.....then, if I do receive freezes...there is nothing to be afraid of right? It just means my phone is trying to fight the SDS by freezing itself?

So if I do receive freeze, I will remember not to panic, but what do I do?

When will this go though? Maybe when Samsung releases yet another OS update, 4.1.3?
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You just wait 5 to 25 min for it to un freeze. There's no 4.1.3, next in line would be 4.2.2.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
I think that's coincidence IF your freezes are related to SDS

It may be that only now is your wear leveling become a problem and the OS is preventing death. We don't really know enough but the fact that most people seemed to start getting the issue after a certain length of owning the device may indicate that after a certain amount (or range) of read/writes, the wear leveller hits a bad block

Than again, maybe not.
[Galaxy S III General] ali4796:
Hi

@rootSU

@pickandwhammy

@Rob2222

@Other Developers

and those who can help

yesterday i figured out there is a part in samsung for developers with this address:

developer.samsung.com

went to forum/General Board and asked them about the SDS problem and why samsung has not officially reported anything, what should be done to fix the problem and ...

This is

the address

Now, they have answered:

"Hi,

This is the first post about this on this forum, so we don't really know anything about this.

If you have a bug to report, please attach a reproduction path, symptoms etc.

Regards,

Adam Panasiuk

Samsung Developers "

Since i am not expert in Android , those who can help more and give them bug report or ... please come to that Thread and give them what they need , maybe it will be patched as soon as possible. :)

@To Others: Please dont come to that thread and say am i safe, am i not safe, Please those who want to help to solve the problem faster come there and share their information :good:

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You could link them to both this thread and the ultimate SDS thread...
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Why would Samsung admit their devices are defective and they still don't have an absolute solution to it? Wasn't the super brick issue with the sii handled the same way?
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hmm, technically we don't have a response to their request, we don't know how to reproduce this.

But as rootSU said, point them to this thread if you can. XDA is well regarded everywhere. If there was a development thread that would have been best, though.
[Galaxy S III General] ottoajalah:
Thanks kadopt.

Well, as you are much more knowledgable in these things than I, perhaps there is no harm in asking you. Do you think in 4.1.3 the SDS will be completely gone? Maybe I should say freeze, since SDS is dead even in 4.1.2 right? So yes, in 4.1.3 do you think the freezes will go away?
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

First of all there's no 4.1.3. The next release is 4.2.2. And if freezes are due to wear damage, it's unlikely they'll stop but intelligent algorithms COULD reduce it drastically.

If it isn't due to that, nobody knows.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

The freezing is probably due corruption in the emmc and the patch makes the phone try to fix the issue during which the phone freezes, if it will be fixed only Samsung knows, they are baking a v4.2.1 according to a leaked version.

[EDIT]Didn't see the previous post![/EDIT]
[Galaxy S III General] Kjc99:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

@kadopt baking v4.2.1 is this true can you link me to this info plz
[Galaxy S III General] ottoajalah:
Well well...we won't know if Samsung will release a fix to the freeze?

Well...I guess I have to be grateful at least SDS is fixed...
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Here you go! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30287889

They haven't even admitted the issues officially yet!
[Galaxy S III General] ottoajalah:
Yes the worst part is they havent admitted. (Though I read some articles online saying they have)

Just admit it and take it like a man...seriously.

Well, even though we dont know if 4.2.1 will bring a fix to the freezing issue, I guess I have to be happy and thankful that 4.1.2 fixes the SDS.
[Galaxy S III General] sandeman11:
Guys i need help (actually a friend of mine)

He has a S3 (like me) and that freak'n thing crashes almost all the time. We think he has this problem. But we've checked and think he is same, would you be so kind to check with us?

i attached two screen-dumps at this post.

suggestions are more then welcome!! :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Affected but "safe".
[Galaxy S III General] FaeLLe:
Can you please help share if this is included in the Milestone 1 release?
[Galaxy S III General] zadusimple:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Is it safe to assume that new 4.2.1 firmware kernel has SDS fix?

Sent from a better Galaxy designed for humans!
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
yep. They're not going to take the fix out. They may make it better or change how it works but they wont remove it.
[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Since there is already some baked ROMs with the latest leaked 4.2.1. Do we know for sure that it has at least the update 7 fix?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It will probably be update 8. As I just said 1 post ago, they're not going to remove the fix
[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Great. I'm going to flash the latest omega (4.2.1) hoping it includes some magic fix.

Thanks for the fast answer ;)
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

This issue is annoying:rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 07:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:16 AM ----------

Also my phone uptime is 26 days now. Not rebooted or freezed in last 26 days. Using XXELLAC 4.1.2. I dnt hve this freezing issue. Means my emmc is not corrupted or not having bad sectors. :cool:;):)

Lets hope. That is what we can do. Have a nice day.:thumbup:;)
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?
[Galaxy S III General] sandeman11:
Meaning?:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It means that your phone is from the dodgy batch but your software is the one that has the sds fix!
[Galaxy S III General] Brooks316:
Hi

My phone has started freezing almost constantly in the past couple of days. I know the emmc is one of the affected bunch, but I've had the fix since it was released. So the freezing is my phone trying to save itself? And will the freezing continue? Because if it does is it worth flashing to a non-fixed kernel and getting the thing repaired?
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
how old ur phone is? when did u applied patch?? also when it freezes? means normal on ideal screen or within any app? explain.
[Galaxy S III General] silvercats:
"

does this mean if I root my device for the first time that has XXELLC already, Is there a possibility I might get sudden death problem?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If you root for the first time, you must read on because you will then have an unsafe recovery
[Galaxy S III General] dodgebizkit:
I'm on Stock unrooted 4.1.2, I recently (last Saturday night) factory reset and since then at least once a day it totally hard stalls- screen freezes and its totally unresponsive, needs either the 3 button hold reset or a battery pull...

Are these symptoms of an imminent sudden death?
[Galaxy S III General] diegoviola:
I'm apparently on a affected device too (i9300), using CM 10.1, CWM 6.0.2.7.

Should I upgrade my CWM to PhilZ?

How can I be safe?
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Read the first post all the information is there
[Galaxy S III General] diegoviola:
Upgraded. Thanks.

---------- Post added at 06:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:38 AM ----------

Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] tiby87:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hi to all, now i am running jb 4.1.2 xxella, can i update to a newer version of jb 4.1.2 via odin without having any problems? It is safe to enter in download mode?
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If you updated your bootloader along with your rom you're safe.
[Galaxy S III General] diegoviola:
How do I check which bootloader I have?

I have the latest cm 10.1 running, and also the latest PhilZ CWM.

Do I need to do anything to be safe in Download Mode too? I don't use Downloaded mode since I'm on CM.

Any ideas? Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If you installed by ota or installed a full odin image then your bootloader also updated.
[Galaxy S III General] diegoviola:
I didn't do any OTA upgrades.

I got my phone (i9300), I think it came with ICS, then I flashed CWM with Heimdall, and went straight to CM from there.

I didn't use stock, and I didn't do any backups. I've been flashing CM since I got this phone and now I'm on the latest CM/PhilZ-CWM.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You have an ICS bootloader then
[Galaxy S III General] ali4796:
This is the 2nd reply of Samsung Developer (Adam Panasiuk):

Hi,

Thank you for the extensive post,

We'll look into it, send it along to the appropriate person and hopefully this will be fixed.

Thanks again,

Adam Panasiuk

Samsung Developers

I don't know this means they hadn't known anything about it and there is no patch yet,

Or its only for Diverting minds, that yes we will patch it soon, go and enjoy your buggy phone, and telling themselves we cant help more with it

Wish to here something good :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Not every developer will be aware of every bug. It was probably only 1 or 2 people out of hundreds of developers whom implemented the work around
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
... and six months from now, Samdung will claim to know nothing about this issue and will continue to devote all development resources to the SIV.
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
I wonder which kind of (featured) eMMC bug they put into the Galaxy S IV?! :confused:

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
They'll symlink a block of eMMC to the radio stack and not write protect it.
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
LOL :D:laugh: Made my day! :)
[Galaxy S III General] @xDeepS:
Those who are having the issue, try updating to Omega v43 MB1. Fixed it for me.. for now. Will report back if it happens again.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Just to be clear, you're talking about an issue with Freezes, rather than the SDS issue. The freezes are the "fix" actively trying to prevent SDS in real time.

Actually, since the fix is in the kernel, would be interesting to see what flashing an older Wanam (using aroma to NOT update the kernel) to see if the freezing issue continues to appear "resolved"
[Galaxy S III General] @xDeepS:
Another question, why does a "fix" cause the phone to freeze. I am new to this, how many times will this thing keep happening. The 20min freezes? :/
[Galaxy S III General] diegoviola:
Ok and do I need to upgrade to something else?
[Galaxy S III General] @xDeepS:
Oh weird. I never had SDS then but Ive been trying to troubleshoot the fix all day :eek: ... another thing Id add is I updated to Philz Recovery too in the middle of all this so i am not really sure if its the ROM or Recovery that fixed the freezing.

Well if the fix IS the cause then it should continue to freeze on any ROM right? I have UltimaROM v10 downloaded I could flash it and see if it works. If it works right the recovery might have fixed the fix. So confusing. Anyway to stop the 20mins fixes? I went to a Samsung Service Center and they were like we'll just reflash it for you :rolleyes:

Ill try to mess with it tomorrow as I am still test driving my fx for fix :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Rob222 is best placed to answer this. I know he knows more about the freezes than most.

haha. Just keep an eye on it ;)

Recovery cant affect android as they dont run at the same time.

Depends, Download mode is not safe to use with ICS bootloader, but JB bootloader is harder to make it show you are not custom. Personally I prefer ICS bootloader and to NOT use download mode.
[Galaxy S III General] @xDeepS:
So are we sure this is a software issue and not a hardware one? Cause if I can get my device replaced at the Samsung Store it'd be a treat. :P
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Essentially, all kernels in 4.1.2 have have a fix that runs if you have VTU00M 0xf1 (based on eMMC type VTU00M and the date of 0xf1 release) and has been causing freezes. There are very few (if any) SDS since 4.1.2 that can actually show that they have not done anything to invalidate the fix (Custom recovery without fix etc). We have seen a massive drop off of this issue as more and more people have updated to update 7 based kernels.
[Galaxy S III General] @xDeepS:
What are your thoughts on MB1 firmware? I just finished a nandroid of the working one to flash the rom that was giving me issues this morning..

---------- Post added at 10:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:23 PM ----------

Ive been reading about this all day, its a bit mysterious as the fixes people around the web suggest seem to be placebo lol.

I used the dummy file generator and a few other fixes and well something fixed it lol. Wish I could be more help :)
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Never used MB1. It has some older versions of stuff than MR2 so it's a step backwards sort of.
[Galaxy S III General] f0xy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

So I have the sudden death eMmc chip.

Had the phone since July 2012. I must of been lucky to survive till the fix came out :)

How do I check my bootloader as I'm sure I downgraded back to ics due to the red symbol in the corner.

I'm now running latest philz recovery and latest cm10.1 nightly.

Also another question which I saw was asked a few month ago and maybe ongoing..

Until the fix came out, would the life of our s3s have been jeopardised?
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If you don't have the red exclamation and use custom stuff you're using ics bootloader.

Yes your emmc life may be crippled. :(
[Galaxy S III General] botturgec:
Thanks man.
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Just to clarify a bit. The consensus view at this point is that the bootloader is not involved in SDS. This is most likely related to the kernel, ROM and/or recovery. An unsafe kernel (even in recovery) appears to the be the culprit. The bootloader does not. Let's be careful to not spread misinformation on this all-important topic. It's been discussed over and over.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
In fact the last idea was that the ODIN probably uses the bootloader kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] @xDeepS:
Flashed MB1 with kernel, upgraded to MR2 (using UltimaROM w/ Aroma) and didnt change kernel. Seems to be working fine now. Things that possibly fixed this could be Philz Recovery or Dummy File Generator trick.
[Galaxy S III General] BossStang:
I have insane chip to and I have had zero problems.

They shiped like two s3 every second the first months atleast so a very little percentage of failing chips is a lot of phones. My guess is most units work fine and people doesnt even know the sds problem exist?
[Galaxy S III General] fault123:
Hello,

This confused me. My phone died right after 6th month. I sent it to Switzerland, they repaired it within warranty, and told me they changed the MB. When I got back the phone I saw that neither the IMEI nor the serial number had changed. Asked about it and they said with this brand it was possible to copy the old IMEI and serial number back to new board. So far so good. So I checked the cheap, it was again the vulnerable type. Cursing my luck I thought I was safe because the firmware was XXELL4. I checked "exynos exploit" and saw that it was not fixed, but did not care much about it. I am using it completely stock, not rooted.

But when I read this message, as I said, I was confused. According the list on first page, XXELL4 is safe, that means it must have kernel with update 7, but if IT IS update 7, how come I still have exynos problem?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

This is about sudden death NOT exynos. Exynos fixed in XXELLA but not about this in this thread
[Galaxy S III General] fault123:
I am quite aware that this is about sudden death and NOT exynos. As a matter of fact when I say "How come I still have exynos?" I am not asking anything about exynos, I already stated that I have exynos problem. With that question I mean that since in the quoted part it says "update 7 is introduced in kernels of firmwares listed on page 1, and update 7 includes exynos fix" and since I am using one of this kernels (XXELL4) and my EXYNOS is not FIXED, is it possible that XXELL4 does not contain a kernel with update 7, and hence XXELL4 is vulnerable for sudden death?

You say that exynos is fixed on XXELLA, so this means update 7 was introduced with XXELLA but pickandwhammy says "update7 was the kernel update which Samsung provided, which we think contains the eMMC failure fix (it definitely contains the Exynos exploit fix)". XXELL4 is on the list on page 1, therefore it is considered safe, therefore it includes update 7, right? So it should not have exynos exploit, but it has. So I am confused. And I repeat, I am not confused about exynos, I am confused if I am protected or not with XXELL4.

With all respect, I am sorry if I am being too much, but I do not wish to be misunderstood and falsely accused of using wrong tread.

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Hmm, that is spooky! As far as I knew Samsung had fixed the exploit issue too. Maybe I was wrong. In any case, just be on the latest firmware, and if you haven't rooted etc, you'll get warranty if it dies, anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Update 7 was introduced at XXELKC. All 4.1.2 kernels are update 7. The list on post 1 is a list of safe kernels (update 7) from sds.

This thread has nothing to do with the exynos exploit as clearly stated in post 1 so yes, this is the wrong thread.

FYI, when update 7 sources were released, they did not contain the exynos fix. This was only added to the source AFTER the initial update 7 and was first introduced in XXELLA, but this is irrelevant and off topic for this thread. I believe the development of update 7 was linear and took a while for kernels to surface with both fixes

You CANNOT use exynos vulnerability to determine sds vulnerability
[Galaxy S III General] fault123:
Well, I am on XXELL4, and it is not fixed. But as you say, I think I'd better flash latest firmware. Thank you.

And I clearly stated that I do not care about exynos exploit, but I am afraid of sudden death because I have XXELL4, and on the basis of explanations I gave before it looked like it did not include update 7 (Proof of that: I had exynos exploit). I mentioned "exynos" only as reference to update 7 and XXELL4 kernel. This statement is not any different than pickandwhammy saying "all update 7 includes "exynos fix". That one is not wrong tread, but when I say "mine does not include", it is wrong tread?

But you clarified things by saying "FYI, when update 7 sources were released, they did not contain the exynos fix. This was only added to the source AFTER the initial update 7 and was first introduced in XXELLA".

I thanked both of you, for bearing with me.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I'm not spreading wrong information, I just answered his questions. He asked how can he check which bootloader he is using and if since his mobile if from July 2012 and been using an unfixed kernel if his mobile might be partially broken. Never said anything about bootloader fixing sds. I use ics bootloader so the counter doesn't go up from having custom stuff in my mobile.

Cheers!
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
SDS was supposedly fixed since L4, but Exynos vulnerability was fixed until LA.
[Galaxy S III General] tiby87:
I9300xxemb1 have sds fix, it was released on 01 feb ? thank you
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
Yes, it does. XDA also has a search function that will allow you to find everything you need on this topic without asking in the wrong section. Just so you know...Questions go in the section devoted to them, called, Q&A.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Fixed since LKC
[Galaxy S III General] deniz2051:
I was on XXEMA2 and when I check with that emmc app it said insane chip.Now I'm on 4.2.2 CM based rom Yank kernel and Philz recovery and it still says insane? Am I safe?
[Galaxy S III General] BossStang:
Yes.. Chip is the same no matter what software you flash.
[Galaxy S III General] diegoviola:
I'm on CM10.1 and PhilZ Touch 4.63, should I flash latest 4.1.2 stock ROM and then re-flash CM10.1 to have the latest bootloader?

I want to be 100% safe, even in download mode, although I never use that.

My phone is a i9300.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antoniojose7:
Hi:

I’ve read a lot about my problem but as there is so much information I, as a beginner, need some help.

My phone is blocked to the operator and I need to unlock it.

What have I learn:

a)	I need to put it in root mode (tried the 3 button combo and works).

b)	I need odin, any version?

c)	I need files to download, which ones?

d)	I run app Galaxy S2 SIM Unlock (already installed)

e)	With code and “wrong” SIM card unlock the device.

Device data:

PDA:	I9100XWKI4

Phone:	I9100XXKI1

CSC:	I9100TMNKI1

Android : 2.3.4

Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468

GINGERBREAD.XWKI4

txs

aj7
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickiwicki:
Hi and welcome to the forums :) Try to post in the correct forum first, there you are more likely to get help..

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1055