yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Yeah at least you have a choice. Not that I'd want to be tied down to a carrier, but then I can't really pass an opinion on that since that ecosystem doesn't exist here (devices and SIMs are sold separately, they have no relationship with each other).

Custom ROMs are ze best, IMO. I usually tell people that on a scale of ten, stock unrooted ROMs might give you an experience rating of 2 or 3, while rooting can drive that up to maybe 5, and using custom ROMs, kernels, maybe even creating personal builds will get you close to the top.
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Well others answered me. also u always sounds rude. u can always ignore questions if u don't want to answer. as simple as that. :angel:

also how to search "charging relation" in the thread ???
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Sorry, but:

;)
[Galaxy S III General] lew87ys:
Got my dead galaxy s3 back from samsung a few weeks ago and was told it had this problem.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Samsung accepted the issue of sudden death?
[Galaxy S III General] BeingScared:
I just bought an S3 off ebay, and using the eMMC checker, it says I've got an insane chip.

Now the firmware the phone is running is XXELLA, I must know, am I going to be hit by SDS or since the phone is already on XXELLA, am I covered?

I've read the OP several times, I just need to confirm some.

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

As the op states, xxella has the fix. Don't need confirmation of that, its in op for a reason ;)
[Galaxy S III General] FrancescaSp:
2 years i thik
[Galaxy S III General] dazzie611:
Hi , thanks for the quick reply and help, I've flashed and replaced Clockworkmod recovery with Philz_touch_4.00-b04-i9300 recovery . Does that mean i'm now covered or do i still need to update the kernel? Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
You will not void your warranty if you are installing a new Firmware via Kies.

edit: I think what you want to ask is:can you flash a downloaded firmware through kies? If Kies says that you have the newest Firmware you cannot flash a downloaded Firmware via Kies, you can only install a firmware through Kies if it offers you to install a new firmware. You are probably going to need Odin for this. You won`t void warranty if you flash a official Samsung Firmware, since the flashcounter won`t go up. If something does go wrong, you can always play dumb and say that suddenly your phone wouldn`t work and they should repair it.

Correct me if I`m wrong here.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Just recovery because you already have an android kernel that is fixed
[Galaxy S III General] fantasmanegro:
it is... as DVD Drive firmware update...

---------- Post added at 01:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:21 PM ----------

+1... very dangerous...
[Galaxy S III General] GrieverCBR:
Man oh man, went through the pages, got worried and got a headache at the same time, trying to wrap my head around this thing. I am only about month into using my Galaxy S3 i9300, it is also my first Android device, so I am pretty novice at all these kernels, roms, flashing and so on. I've played with my S3 a bit, with small tutorials I find.

My phone information:

eMMC Chip:

Type: VTU00M

Date: 09/2012

CID: (not important? and long as hell!)

FwRev: 0xf1

Model: GT-I9300

Android Vers: 4.1.2

Baseband Vers: I9300XXELKC

I read that having the XELLA version is what is needed to save from a SDS failure. I am assuming I got the XXELKC version which is unprotected. I do not have any desire to use custom ROM's, because I very much would like the stock, original feel and layout.

I flashed some kernel I believe called HX-MOD for the camera. If I flash this Perseus kernel now, does this protect my phone from SDS? Are there any other steps after flashing? I have not seen a step-by-step tutorial on how to apply the fix (apart from just using a custom rom like CM).

Very much appreciate if you can "come down" to my level of how to assist me in providing a fix for this SDS issue.

edit-

More searching on the forum found "[KIES]I9300XXELLA 4.1.2". Perhaps just by installing this will fix SDS?
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
Flashing Perseus should be enough because the fix itself is inside the Kernel

Edit: Yes, if you install the I9300XXELLA Firmware, you will also automatically install the Stock Kernel, which should have the fix included. To be sure however you can flash the Perseus Kernel on top of it because developers are not 100% sure if Samsung included this fix inside the XXELLA Firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] GrieverCBR:
Thank you very much for the quick reply, (adding a thanks). I am about to grab that I9300XXELLA and will also pop in the Perseus kernel to be on the safe side. Much appreciated!
[Galaxy S III General] jfsyl:
Hello,

thank you for you great job

i have a S3 16G with the

VTU00M

Date 6/2012

CID : 15010056545530304df18ef275e96f21

FwRev : 0xf1

Check memory ok

so i have the potentialy sudden death

I have installed the firmware XXELLA Android 4.1.2 (Date: 22/12/2012)

i have flashed too the Bootloader_XXELLA_Odin.tar

i'm save ? thks you for the response ^^
[Galaxy S III General] car195:
I just bought my phone the last friday and I'm coming from the nexus one so I'm a bit confused.

I have XXELL4 stock so probably I don't have the fix and I must update.

Just please confim that the following procedure is correct

1.- Flash a custom recovery with pc odin

2.- flash the rom with recovery

3.- flash the kernel with recovery

4.- use triangle away

Thanks for the help
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
The answer to your question is 2 posts above:

Also the bootloader has nothing to do with the SDS or at least there is no evidence for it.
[Galaxy S III General] EduMonzter:
I a have a question couldn't find in thread, is the sds fixed if I use XXLLA rom flashed through recovery or should I flash it with odin?

I am using wanamlite v5.3 with latest perseus, all flashed from cwm
[Galaxy S III General] emmanueldmc:
HydRx-D v2.2.1r1 and his Kernel's include the fix...
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
There should be absolutely no difference. The important thing is the Kernel. If you flashed the wanamlite v5.3 ROM via CWM then you also flashed the Stock XXELLA Kernel which should probably be safe.
[Galaxy S III General] EduMonzter:
good. I had read that maybe was a boot loader problem too thats why I ask it.

thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
The Bootloader thing was a rumor with no evidence, so no bootloader has nothing to do with it.
[Galaxy S III General] madffrogs:
New to S3 .

Hi, I'm new to the S3,I'm still on the stock rom as I've only had the phone 2 weeks and spent most of my time reading and trying to understand the SDS threads, I've flashed both the latest Philz's touch recovery and the Perseus Kernel is that all I need to do to be protected from SDS?

I'm still finding my way round the phone and will probably start looking at changing roms when I get settled in.

I'm just after a bit of reassurance that I'm on the right track with the recovery and kernel ?
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Should be, yeah...
[Galaxy S III General] DaniGalaxy:
Hello rootSU, thanks for your explanation about the problem and the methods you listed to be "safe" as far as we know.

My phone was a zombie one and died on 27 dec. Today i received my phone back from repair and i saw that they replaced my motherboard.

Now it is a RF cal: 2012.12.18 HW Rev.: MP 1.500.

Unfortunately my emmc chip is still TYPE: VTU00M, FWREV: 0XF1 but production date is 09/2012.

I upgraded the phone to XELLA firmware (wanam), philz touch 4.00 recovery and latest perseus kernel just to be safer.

Now i see the red exclamation mark on boot up splash screen (upper left corner of the screen).

I've read that this is produced by the new bootloader.

Is it safe (with the sds) to downgrade to the old booloader or not?

Thanks for your reply.
[Galaxy S III General] BeingScared:
Thanks for that rootSU.

I'm a bit of a flash-junkie, so I'd like to know, is there any way to root the phone without jeopardising my "immunity" to the SDS?
[Galaxy S III General] sherlock5545:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Root the phone, flash a safe recovery and a safe kernel (all listed in the OP).

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Yeah thats about it really...

Just be aware that your current bootloader makes extra special care to note the fact to Samsung that you modified yoiur phone and does so on every boot, so to reset this before going to stock...

Install and run triangle away

Before the phone reboots back into android (after it has changed the flash status) remove the battery

Boot into download mode

Flash stock rom.

Because every time you boot up with custom stuff, the bootloader goes back to custom. So after a reset, you must prevent it booting.
[Galaxy S III General] neno007:
a noob and a bit lost

Hi Guys

sorry if this sounds as a silly question.

I've used the eMMC check and here is the result

but I checked the kernel version and here is what I found

So My Question here is: Am I safe? :fingers-crossed::confused:
[Galaxy S III General] paua__:
Good news! After sudden death I turned my phone in to my local Samsung service office, or whatever, and they fixed it free of charge even though i had a cracked screen, rooted++, and some minor bumps and scratches. I dont know what it takes to NOT get your phone fixed if you have been affected with this issue. The sure was kind to me. Took them less than a week to have it fixed btw.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Using stock rom? If yes then you're safe, but you should use a more recent firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
You quoted the answer!
[Galaxy S III General] neno007:
thank you very much for the response. yes I'm using stock rom

I've checked in SAMMOBILE site and it seams that a "latest firmware" is not available yet for my country.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You can flash a custom kernel like perseus to "enhance" your phone.
[Galaxy S III General] samppl:
5 months with an insane emmc and mine is still going strong. Been running XXELLA since it became available in Aus so it's "safe" I guess. No random reboots or lockups (yet, crosses fingers).

Do you really need to update if you're already using a safe version? I updated to EMA2 when it came out and the battery life was so horrible I went back to XXELLA. Now I'm too scared to update for fear of getting rubbish battery life out of it. At the rate I use my phone under ELLA I can go 4 days on a single charge, on EMA2 I got less than 1 day.
[Galaxy S III General] neno007:
well that's my opinion too

I'm afraid to use anything that's not stock in fear of irregular performance.
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
i am using my "insane" phone for 8 months now. before XELLA i was (like most of you here) thinking about SDS. Too much thinking i mean. My phone never froze before and never froze after XELLA either (i am running ARHD with all patches but NOT the new bootloader so i think i am still on the ICS bootloader). Even better, i've got 5 days and 19 hours using the phone like i am using it regullary, on a single charge (personal previous record was 5 days and 13 hours and my lower endurance time was 2 days and 4 hours ; but i use a lot from tasker help, greenify and crossbreeder). And i have decided not to give anymore thoughts on this matter. I cannot live my life fearing about what can go wrong. I wish you all to have exactly my experience with S3.
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Definitely. Get "covered" then forget it.
[Galaxy S III General] K-See:
Another complete noob here...please help!

I have read the first post and done the Emmc test and I have the affected chip. In the first post here regards what to do if you have the chip it recommends CM 10.1 Nightly 20130109 (i9300 AOSP) .

Is that the only CM10 rom with the fix included or do all versions of CM10 after that one have it?

Thanks a million to anyone who reads and replies.
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It wouldn't be a very good ROM had they just released one build with the fix and then forgot about it, would it?
[Galaxy S III General] K-See:
No that is true. Thank you for replying .

I tried googling it but there seemed to be some confusion so in the responses so worry set in.:)

Another Q...

In the emmc test it says I have an insane chip and it is labelled VTU00M but doesn't mention the 0XF1 part. Does mean I'm not affected?

If I am affected is flashing the latest ROM all I need to do?

Do I need to flash a recovery?

I bought my phone second hand and have no proof of purchase from any store so Samsung won't honour the warranty if my phone does go belly up.I'm trying to avoid the most expensive mistake I'll ever have made now.

Any help greatly appreciated.:)
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Check "fwrev" part, it will be 0xf1, even with a safe kernel you will have an insane chip. Flash a safe kernel and recovery, it's all in post 1 of this thread. Read man!
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
TRIED EVERYTHING but ISSUE BEYOND FIX

Model: GT-N7100

Baseband: N7100XXDLK7

Build: JZo54K.N7100XXDLK7

eMMC Chip:

Type: VTU00M

Date:08/2012

FwRev:0xf1

So I bought this phone back in Oct2012 and from last month I am start having this so called "Sudden Death" "Freeze" issue so check with EMMC app and yup the result is Insane Chip. Now from last 3 days I have tried all the kernels including(persius and XDLL7) and bunch of other recoveries and ROMS and nothing is fixing this problem. Now this is "Made in UK" version and I am living in USA so Samsung Mobile USA has declined to honor the warranty so Samsung UK has suggested to me to contact Samsung USA. Now I have spend $700 for this so called flag shipped device and all I have got is brick for this price.As this point I am so mad at Samsung that I have decided to go "DARKSIDE with APPLE or WP8 NOKIA" as they honor warranty worldwide does not matter where it manufactured . One thing I dont understand though it was perfectly fine for first 4 months without having any problem working like a charm without any root or custom rom and now suddenly its start behaving so crazy that almost unable to use. If any one can suggest me the solution so I dont have to waste my $700. Thanks so much for all your support and efforts in advance my fellow XDA members
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Mate is your phone dead? Like not turning on? If that's not the case and your phone is only freezing it means that the sds fix is trying to save your phone from eventual death. Your emmc has to issues and the firmware is trying to sort them out. Just install latest perseus kernel and when it freezes just let it be for up to 25 min. Don't turn it off otherwise it may be fully bricked. Cheers!
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
Thanks for your suggestion. So you are saying whenever phone freeze i just let it be for 25 minutes like that i mean it keep freezing after every 10 minutes...not to mention frequent reboot here in there all the time.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Oh, about the random reboots does it happen even if you wipe then install perseus? You're using stock rom right? Temasek had issues with his gs3 but he did some super wipes and installed cm10.1 them went back to normal. I could research some more. But try factory reset from custom recovery then install perseus and check for reboots.
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
Yes. I do have perseus kernel with CWM recovery and Stock_Deodex_Rooted_N7100XXDMB2_N7100OXXDMB2_N7100XXDLK7_BTU ROM for N7100. I did install all these after factory wipe/Cache partition wipe/Dalvik wipe but does not seem like problem going away. Thanks so much for your suggestions.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You may try and search for a super wipe script for your device or check PhilZ recovery so you can fully wipe it, those scripts wipe your internal sd card as well. Then reinstall both the rom and kernel. Remember to read all instructions etc before trying.
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
I am trying this now with super wipe script
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Ok, then just flash rom and kernel. If it still reboots then the device may be damaged or the rom may have issues.
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
I have CMW latest recovery but it does not let me use the mega/super wipe every time i tried it freeze on please wait screen
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
That pretty much confirms it: your eMMC is dying, probably the /sdcard partition, since you were able to wipe /system, /cache, and /data without any trouble. I'm really sorry about the warranty problem but there isn't much you can do any more, you'll have to spend some money to get the motherboard changed. The ironic good news is that even if you weren't denied warranty you'd still probably have to pay for the board as they'd slap water-damage on you anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
XXEMB5

hola!!!! im downloading XXEMB5 FW

so how can i know it has the sudden death fix????

and sorry for my bad English. :crying:
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Far as I know, XXE-LLA onwards all firmwares have the fix, so XXE-MB5 should too (M > L).
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Thanks :thumbup:
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
I guess you are right as I did mega wipe and reinstalled the kernel,recovery and latest stock rom and still the same problem so I guess I have to send it for motherboard change but the sucks part is samsung is not even going to repair as it covers under UK warranty not here in USA.
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

I need a litte help,ummm really not a help little advice.

Now im on Stock 4.1.2 XXEMB5 Fw.

And I never rooted 4.1.2 fw, but I have done 4.0.4, 4.1.1 fw's.

Still no freezes & auto reboots.

I want to root it, if I root my s3 is it going to die?????

(Reason to root:-i really want to install that weather widget on galaxy s4)

:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You'll need to update the recovery once rooted and do not flash any kernels not listed in post 1
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
can i stay on stock kernal???
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Oh God, yes, you can. I already told you the stock ROM you're using has the patch (which means the kernel is patched).

What rootSU means is when you root with CFRoot your 3e recovery will be replaced by CWM (which is unsafe), so you'll need to flash either PhilZ or TWRP recoveries. Before you ask where to find them, please SEARCH.
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
Hello,

cause your eMMC block parameters were not in a state to trigger the bug yet. This need 3-6 month on average for the parameters to come to that specific state that trigger the bug.

On the first SD-Fix (which causes freezes) it really seems to help when you wait on _every_ freeze until the phone unfreezes itself which needs 5-45 minutes.

In daily use this is really unpractical, so there is a way to trigger the freezes on after another in the evening when you didn't need the phone by just writing enough data files on the internal SD card.

Most easy method is to do that is by freeing 8GB (or more) space and writing dummy files with the dummy file generator (DFG).

I described that here.

If the phone freezes, thats OK, just let it do what it wants. When you have written the files, just delete them and start again.

For much people that helped. My phone is again stable since 4 weeks now after usfing this procedure. But some people needed to generate 60-80GB of data until this thing became stable.

I even know one hard case with someone wo didn't got warranty and then tried to eleminate freezes with DFG. In this hard case he wrote around 1TB of data (100 runs a 10GB) but then finally the phone came stable. Bus this case is the most extreme case I know. But in the end, DFG solved even that.

However, the newest S3 firmwares (XXEMB5) seems to have a better SD-Fix which didnt cause freezes anymore.

So you maybe can search and flash the newest(!) firmware for your Note and try if this eleminates the freezes.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Some Sony Xperia Z handsets reportedly suffering sudden death

Some Sony Xperia Z handsets reportedly suffering sudden death.

http://gsmarena.com/some_sony_xperia_z_handsets_reportedly_suffering_sudden_death-news-5738.php
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Interesting! Though it's probably a completely different bug, considering:
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

K boss te amo!!!! Tnx 4 da rude reply :(:(:(
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

He is always rude . Dnt knw what is his problem. :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] pickandwhammy:
Haha, you guys clearly haven't hung around XDA enough to get offended by ME :p The older users will note the irony.
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

well the first post explains everything so it's quite frustrating to be answering obvious questions like "I have xxella kernel, am I safe?"...
[Galaxy S III General] RohanM:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

If that frustrating then simply dnt answer it. Its better that being rude. :thumbup:
[Galaxy S III General] kadopt:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

It's all good until they start bumping their unanswered questions. But ok, being rude is not good as well, this is a collaboration, but spoon feeding can drain someone's patience as well.
[Galaxy S III General] jeffnz:
"rude" is subjective and people can mistake abruptness with being rude as we don't get to see body language on here.

However to ignore people is just as rude and can condone behavior so I believe telling people their mistakes is better than ignoring but maybe some of us need to be more understanding of other peoples feelings :rolleyes:

or maybe people shouldn't get offended so easily if they can't be bothered to even read the first post of a thread.
[Galaxy S III General] urkrishpatel:
AB

---------- Post added at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------

Thanks I will try this now.
[Galaxy S III General] ivan4o5:
Hey guys , I've found something interesting (I dont know if it is SDS related) . I've tried it on multiple firmweres (XXEMB5 and XXELLA) .

I was looking into "Develpoer options" (into the Settings menu) and this is what I did :

I've ticked "Show layout boundaries" and then "Show GPU view updates" . The next thing I did was clicking the menu button (the left sensor key) and holding it for a while (3-4 seconds) . Then my phone froze and restarted itself . I've repeated the same steps again the same day but nothing .

The next day I did the exact same ,but after I've unticked those options and I've pressed the "Home" button my phone restarted .

I've managed to force 2 restarts per day .

This is some sort of wierd bug ...

Forgot to mention , I have the "Insane" chip .

I do not know if this have something in common with the SDS but I've wanted to share it with you .
[Galaxy S III General] lukas3000:
WTF????? iam really confused.:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Re: [Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

Why?

2 different and completely unrelated things.
[Galaxy S III General] lukas3000:
sorry but what is the difference?iam just really confused beacuse 2 months ago emmc brig bug app

told me SANE CHIP.Few days after INSANE CHIP.without doing anything.Same rom,same kernel (syiah),same recovery(philz)...for that reason i have installed the second app thinking they are for the same proposite.Sorry for my english