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[7" Kindle Fire HD General] menawollas:
Just like to say thanks for the Noob series.

I've worked in IT for 30 years, but soemtimes you just want to push the buttons rather then type it all out yourself.

I rooted my KFHD, only to get the OTA update a week later. Thought I'd leave things to bed down before trying again, which I've just done following your guides. No problems at all, and hopefully I wont get borked again.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] DVDYETI:
Thanks for the guide, I have now done it no problem. I was a little confused when you said (stay in apps) as I thought I had to navigate to settings-applications-apps which I can't do when unregistered but I see you just meant the main page with all my apps listed.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] m4rk4:
Does this script also disable automatic app updates from the Amazon Appstore?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

menawollas,

Me too. I have been a developer since 1982, when it comes to our internal Tablets I always buy the Toolkit to make

the Mods easy. Let's face it, our lives are busy and when it is our own goodies we just want it to work!:good:

Thank you for posting feedback.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Question - Where do you find Apps?

DVDYETI,

Correct DVDYETI, I mean the Apps where all your software icons exist. So in the main Kindle Fire Menu, it would be

the APPS Tab on the Main Screen.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
How to: Disable Amazon Appstore Updates

m4rk4,

No, it does not disable the Amazon Appstore Updates. If you would like to disable this feature you would need to go

into the Main Settings:

1. Pull down the upper status bar and choose More+

2. Select Applications, then select Apps

3. In App Settings click on Automatic Updates

4. Select Disable

That is it! We were very careful to only disable OTA and nothing else.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] m4rk4:
I want to keep apps updating.

Thanks for the well thought out script!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

m4rk4,

That is a good idea to keep Amazon Store updated since they will grow over the next year, so the store will

change dramatically. Thank you for posting Feedback and taking the time to update your situation. I hope

we can help you again in the future.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Update Service Still Operational

To All-

We are getting a number of people asking about the Amazon Update service. The question is: "Does this script disable other

applications from Updating?" The answer is: "No, the scirpt only disables OTA. The following Updates are NOT disabled:

1. Google Play Update for all purchased applications: Enabled

2. Google Play Application Update: Enabled

3. Amazon App Store: Enabled

4. Amazon Download Service: Enabled

5. Whispersync: Enabled

6. Music Automatic Download Service: Enabled

7. Silk Cache Service: Enabled

8. Video Download Service and Update: Enabled

We hope this clarifies the script functions.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] m4rk4:
Thanks again for clarifying. You might want to edit the first post and add that info there.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] xxxo:
I just purchased f HD,followed your great guides but got a ota upgrade from 2.0 to 2.3,only thing i did was uninstall titanium cuz i hate it,should i have kept this to stop ota ? thanks for your work btw
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Darth_ron:
I can't see the 6-8 features that is being disabled here after i run the script.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Nowthenn:
Im having the same issue. hope it doesnt mean that i will get the kindle update. Does anybody know?thanks
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] lacoursiere18:
the same

I got the same screen. What does that not found items mean..
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] MtFujiInMyPants:
Fantastic guides. These have helped me out tremendously. I followed your [ROOT] How To: Root the Kindle Fire 7" HD and 2 with Windows - Noob (Simple) Version guide as well as this one, but I may have missed something. This afternoon I received an update from Amazon and now I appear to have version 10.2.6 (previously 10.2.4). This update undid my root and removed the three Google (Account/Framework/Login) .apks. I've gotten back to where I want to be (Rooted with Play activated), but how do I test to make sure another update like this won't happen again?

The first time I rooted, I received a similar output as Darth_ron above. This time when I reran the script I didn't click the su (still grey) and it resulted in "killed" messages for the first 8 lines instead of "new state...". Could I have done something improperly last time, allowing the OTA updates to still activate?

Thank you for all your time.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

m4rk4,

That is a great idea, I will add the additional information to the main post.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Titanium Backup

xxxo,

Once you run the script, you may remove Titanium Backup without problems. Yes, Titanium Backup is a Programmers app, not user friendly at all but it is by far the best backup app in the industry. This is why we choose to use it.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Disable OTA Script

Darth_ron,

This output is totally normal, the last items are not found in all systems, so the script is just complaining about the missing services. These services were found in Software x.2.1 and dropped in x.2.3 and x.2.4. Nothing to worry about. Thank you for posting the question.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Disable OTA Script - Missing Services

Nowthenn,

Yes, this output is totally normal with software version x.2.3 and x.2.4. The script was written for all 3 Kindles and all software versions, having said this we had to include all the known services. Most Kindles do not have the last 2 services. If you ran the script as we outlined it, you will never see an update again.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] onemeila:
Just a ?

Aren't all these services routed through silk?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Disable OTA Script - Missing Services

lacoursiere18,

No worries	lacoursiere18, the errors are expected and normal. We built this script for all 3 Kindles and all 14 software versions. Having said this, we had to disable all known OTA services. To keep the script simple and lightweight, we did not include a software version check, just disable everything OTA. If you ran the script as outlined, then you have disabled OTA, period. Thank you for posting the question.:good:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

MtFujiInMyPants,

This script is very simple and lightweight. It has nothing to do with any of the Root apps or the Google Apps, you must have had some sort of odd crash during the execution of the script. Since we do not touch any of these Apps, I have to say, run the script exactly as outlined, it will not effect Root or Google Play Store. Just Re-run the script after you have Root and let me know if you have any issues. I'll bet the update was downloading as you were running the script! So when you executed the script the update was sitting and waiting to be applied to your system.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Disable OTA Script

onemeila,

Great question. The main OTA service named com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService calls to the Download.apk which is integrated into Silk but is not a Silk App, it is a native Ice Cream Sandwich App. This script has absolutely no effect on Silk or any other Amazon Service, it was highly selective and only disables OTA, nothing else. After we wrote the script, we have 8 people test every function over a 2 moth period, then report back to us. There was not a single issue during the test phase, not one.

Thank you again onemeila.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Hinzman420:
Re: [How to] Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Why is this necessary all i did was move the otacerts.zip to my download folder and ive been on 7.2.1 for a month
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Disable OTA Script vs Removing otacerts.zip

Hinzman420,

Another great question, here is the detailed answer:

1. Method Rename or Move otacerts.zip

Pros: Simple solution, takes less than 1 minute. This method removes the SSL certificates that the com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService uses to communicate with the server. When these certificates are removed the com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService is unable to communicate with it's server.

Cons: Leave the all the OTA services active, which draws the battery down. Internally com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService is placed in a endless loop as it tries to recover from the error.

2. Method Run OTA Disable Script

Pros: Disables all the known OTA services. The script is highly selective and only affects OTA, no other services or functions are disabled. The script disabled com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAUpdateMessageHandler, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.CheckForOTAUpdatesService, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAStatusActivity, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.ResetOTAMessageHandler, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTAWakeupReceiver, com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTADedupeReceiver, and com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTAInstallNowReceiver". This method is preferred since it closes all the back doors and increases overall battery runtime and memory.

Cons: Takes about 10 minutes to execute. The script itself takes less than 1 second to run.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Hi, quick question:

I did the 2nd method when I initially rooted, I have since done a factory reset, will I need to perform the script again or does it survive that?

Thanks
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Kindle Fire Factory Reset Restores OTA Services

Gilly10,

Another great question. When you perform a factory reset the /system/app folder remains in tact, all the other folders are restored. Having said this, you will have to run the script again after performing a factory reset. Have a wonderful day Gilly10.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Thanks, will redo the script, cheers ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Sorry got another question:

Do you have to leave SManager app & the disable-ota.sh file on the Kindle for it to keep working, I ask this as I downgraded my KFHD to 7.2.1 yesterday took about 30 mins - 1 hour after all was said & done, updated to the 2nd release of 7.2.1 & got everything back rooted again, ran through this guide & everything seemed to have gone without a problem only for my Kindle to abruptly shutdown later & begin updating, nooooooo! LOL so all my work was undone.

Only thing I can see that might have affected it was deleting the disable-ota.sh file, that or my root privileges got messed up somehow but I could still copy & run stuff from system/app so dunno what happened.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

Gilly10,

I will get to your other post tomorrow, I still have over 500 threads to respond to and it is now 1:16am!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
No problem, take your time, your a credit to this community ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Hinzman420:
Re: [How to] Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Thanks for the detailed info. I will have go and try method 2 now.

Sent from my rooted and tweaked Kindle Fire Hd 7"
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates - Can We Remove The Scripts?

Gilly10,

I should add this information to the main post Gilly10, you have a great question! Yes, you can safely remove SManager, disable-ota.sh without ill effect or without disabling the patches. Just FYI, the script executes some Android commands that simply stop the active OTA services. The disable-ota.sh script uses native Android commands. Having said this, SManager and disable-ota.sh is just the conduit used together to execute these Android commands. Once these commands are executed they become permanent, unless you perform a Factory Restore.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

Gilly10,

Thank you for these nice comments. I really believe we are all important to this community. You are just as important to XDA as we are to XDA. We as a whole make XDA Developers! Thank you again.:good:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Amazon Disable OTA Script - Follow Up - Feedback

Hinzman420,

Thank you for taking the time to post your gratitude, we do not take you for granted. Everyone here is very important to us. We hope you have a wonderful 2013 Hinzman420.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Hinzman420:
Re: [How to] Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Not a problem you people here at xda are awsome. Your time and effort are much appreciated. I try to help when i can but my knowledge is limited to my trial and error. But i deffinayely enjoy xda you are very helpful in teaching people how to do things. Ive learned alot here and hope to learn more. Keep up the great work

Sent from my rooted and tweaked Kindle Fire Hd 7"
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates - Follow Up - Feedback

Hinzman420,

Thank you for the feedback and kind words towards our teams work. Please continue to ask questions and post Threads as you feel they are needed. We really value everyone in XDA Community. Have a wonderful 2013	Hinzman420!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Kindle2:
Updates stopped root

Hi,

First of all i would like to congratulate you on an awesome website and assistance with everything.

I have rooted my kindle fire 2 now for a week or so following your Noob guides. I have installed Google play, flash, disabled OTA, GO Launcher EX, basically all the noob guides apart from Google apps with speech recognition.

So far fantastic and enjoying using my kindle fire as a proper tablet once again thanks to you guys especially prokennexusa.

Yesterday i installed some games from the Amazon store (free). When i switched the kindle on the next time it did an upgrade now it does not have the Go Launcher, Google play has stopped working, it shows the icon but when selecting it flashes and then does not open anything.

I have tried using Root Check Basic which confirms my suspicions that whatever the upgrade did it removed the root. I assumed when i followed the OTA guide it would disable any updates? My question is now will i need to follow the root guide again from the beginning or what would you advise i do now? How can i stop the update from happening again? (or shall i stay away from the Amazon store for apps/games to download as this is what i believe caused the problem.

Thank You once again and for your response in advance
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Hope Amazon hasn't found a new way to push OTA updates, like my post from a few days ago I was sure it worked but only thing I did was deleted the script, maybe that caused it to fail but anyway I've just left it on this time round & have it run every boot with Rom Toolbox.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Gilly10,

So, how did the script go on your Kindle? Was it easy to deploy?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Yeah easy to deploy, no real errors, just didn't know if deleting the script afterwards rendered it ineffective, does it run in the background every now & then or does it need to be ran only once or every reboot?

I'm back on 7.2.3 now & have the script still on the device (I didn't delete it after running it this time).
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Kindle2:
Reinstall After 10.2.6 Update

Thank You Chris for your assistance and swift response.

I have followed your advice and it looked like the root had been removed (superuser.apk) missing and root access was saying it’s not rooted. I have had to go through the root install guide again, Amazon update disable script, then the Google play full install guide and then finally the go launcher guide to finish as this was also removed.

I have definitely followed the Amazon OTA disable guide once again, is there a way to make it definitely won’t update again and undo all the hard work?

Thank You once again and i hope this can help anyone else that has had this update and undid the rooting and stopped Google play from working.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Gilly10,

Sounds like you have everything under control. Thank you for posting an update, we were wondering if you saw our post to you. Take care, have a great night.:good:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Kindle2,

Do you have a Kindle Fire HD 7", Kindle Fire HD 8.9" or a Kindle Fire 2? There appears to be a new service on the Kindle Fire HD 8.9" that we need to add to the script. Before we add the update, please advise us on the Kindle you own. Also, what is your current software version? Is it 8.2.4?

We may need to get more aggressive on the script.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob - Updated Script at 8pm PST

Kindle2,

I am sorry, I just noticed your subject line, you have a Kindle Fire 2 with 10.2.6, we are updating the script now and will post a more aggressive copy before the end of the day, this copy will disable more items but will completely cost all the back doors. Many people may ask, why did you not post the aggressive one to begin with? The reason is simple, it effects Whispersync, this version does not effect this service.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

To All -

The script was updated 01-30-2013 to include some additional back door services that Amazon used to deploy the Kindle Fire 2 10.2.6 update.

Please run the script again to disable these new services. This applies to All Kindles.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Thanks, great work ;)

BTW is this what the enable.ota.sh script should look like I noticed you didn't upload a revised version yet?

Note: The spaces in the 4th & 5th off last "Receiver" text is due to forum formatting.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version - Enable-ota

Gilly10,

We uploaded it this morning, so if you download the latest copy, you will see the updates.

Thank you for advising us of the problem, it appears our Dropbox server did not refresh properly so we changed the method used to upload the new script. Please try again and let us know if you finally see the enable-ota.sh - thank you for being an active participant in our threads.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Slimepuppy:
Just Got OTA Updated!

Hey Chris,

My Fire HD 8.9 just got 'hit' by Amazon - and I used the currently available disable-ota.sh yesterday evening after rooting and installing Google Apps.

This 'spy vs. spy' thing is going to be fun, isn't it? :eek:

All righty then...back to rooting, then GApps, then disable OTA...again...

Crud...

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edit...

You have GOT to be kidding me!

I just completed another root, wiped the cache/user files, and ran the latest to disable the OTA updates. I rebooted to push the Google apps to the device and it rebooted itself and did ANOTHER OTA update. Back with V8.1.4_user_1413620 and no root access. :crying:

Nexus 10 is looking better this morning...but maybe it's the crossed eyes and lack of caffeine.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Same happened with me although I was downgrading my KFHD 7", got it all set up & BAM! I was hit with an update, did it a second time though & it never seemed to updated, maybe it was user error first time round anyway I'm back on the latest version now, missed a few of the new features, just hope the new script works.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] m4rk4:
@prokennexusa

Why the requirement for Titanium Backup? The script only seems to use the android the pm (package manager) command.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Kindle2:
Thank You

I have applied the new script, hopefully amazon updates stay away ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] persano:
before doing it amazon update was downloading i thinks, that why when i restore my device i put it in aircraft mode when it boot
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Krsmqn:
Chris, here is a picture of the smanager.

*Edit* My bad ( Noted in the post below )

As always, thanks.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Krsmqn:
I'm dumb. I forgot to unzip the script. #Facepalm. It worked like a charm.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] CheriePie:
You might want to add this information to the OP (original post). I saw where you said you were going to, but it's not there FYI.

Also, do you know anything about Amazon GameCircle syncing and how that might be affected, if at all? I believe it just uses Whispersync which should still be enabled according to the above, but on moving from my Kindle Fire (1st Gen) over to my Fire HD 8.9, I found that my progress for Monster Park didn't move over with me even though it uses the GameCircle service.

I suppose I could try re-enabling all this OTA stuff and see what happens, but I thought I'd see if you knew anything before I started playing around like that.

ETA - actually per posts later in this thread, and the 1-30 update, it looks like perhaps Whispersync may be affected. :( Note this is NOT an option for me since I read my ebooks across multiple devices and need Whispersync to keep my place.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version >

Slimepuppy,

I am going to add this to the script - to wipe the Kinldeupdate folder prior to the patch. You are correct, this is a real cat and mouse game.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Gilly10,

We are watching closely - we need to add a flush the Kindleupdate folder to our script next.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

m4rk4,

In the old script, we used to use the 'freeze' command to disable the services, now we use the 'pm disable' command. We left Titanium backup since some of our other scripts use the 'freeze' command.

You can remove Titanium backup, although it is by far the best for critical disaster recovery program for the Kindle since Nandroid backup does not work on the Kindle.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Kindle2,

Just keep watching this thread since we will update the script as services change on the Kindle. Since some people do keep the Amazon Store updated, Amazon does have a back door open - to completely close the Back Door, go to More+ Applications > Amazon Applications find the Amazon Store and disable that from being updated, then all the doors are closed - for the moment.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

persano,

That is a great idea, enable Airplane Mode before the reboot - learn something new everyday!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version >

Krsmqn,

Oooops, forgot to unzip it didn't you! The reason I can tell is the script manager is showing / - Root which means you are at the Root of the Zip package!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

Krsmqn,

Caught yourself, great work Krsmqn!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Disable Amazon OTA (Over The Air) System Updates Noob (Simple) Version

CheriePie,

We'll make you a custom script that leaves Wispersync alive. Give us 48 hours.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] :
Is this absolutely necessary as I have quite a lot of apps from the Amazon App Store, I left it on default to automatically update apps & notify me as well, so is this something that Amazon could use to push a system software update?

Also the newer script seems to prevent the App Store, MP3 Store & Amazon Video from detecting updates or I'm just not leaving the Wi-Fi on long enough to detect them, anyway I know they all have updates as I have them backed up from a previous install.