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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] babadudu:
My carbon just arrived, initial feel are

1. top heavy with the cap on,

2. black feels smoother than the SPen's rubber tip, so I am gonna use it for the feel.

3. The cap is also functional, however, it does not act as an eraser nor can it be use to write anything.

After experimenting with it, they have made the back into those "capacitive" for iPad, so it acts like a finger.... since I disabled touch in snote, that's why it wasn't working.

(same with with the back side of the pen itself)

Wish we could mod it into an eraser.

The button is tighter than Spen making it less prone to mis-press, but the fit is loose so that when you shake the pen you can hear it move.

It is thicker than the SPen with eraser and the pen itself isn't much heavier, but with the cap on, it gains substantial weight.

However, I do not really like the top heavy feel of the pen, makes holding the pen require more strength than you normall need to.

--------- Update ---------------

It feels like the Bamboo Feel is more sensitive to pressure change, where it senses a light touch but with SPEN it's a little bit hit and misses.

I think if you are planning to do a lot of drawings, then the Bamboo feel will be perfect for you, where as if you plan to do mostly writing / note taking, Spen with Eraser is still my favorite.

I never tried the Spen holder / BT so I can't do a comparison for them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Aes28:
Thanks for this! I found this review to be very helpful. Especially the included pictures with the pressure levels.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Septhy:
How well does the Wacom Feel perform compared to the S-pen in regards to writing down notes? Ex. Do sentences come out being relatively the same or can you write smoother fonts with the Wacom Feel?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
Wacom.com 25% off stylus coupon code - STYLUS-BAMBOO4U

Still works
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] TrYde:
Just received mine today, a white stylus to go with the white Galaxy Note 10.1, I'm quite impressed by the pen:

it fits comfortably in the hand, it's smooth on the screen, it works on my galaxy note too, and I didn't notice any offset (I'm left-handed) in LectureNotes, S-Memo and SketchBook Pro. Handwriting (and recognition) was much better with this Bamboo stylus on both devices!

I didn't notice any difference in the pressure sensivity in Memo and Sketchbook compared to the default pen.

Got it for 36 euros with shipping, expensive but worth it if you are often drawing or taking notes.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] FlagshipX:
I actually like the top heavyness of the carbon the most. The bad registering I notice is mostly based on the angle. Interesting no issue writing left handed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] avargas8:
I loved this pen. However, i regret not going with the carbon version as the cheaper one is....cheap and has already cracked. Buying the carbon version right now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Bruh-Man:
The Best S-Pen

I don't see how anyone could compare this Stylus Feel to the S-Pen Kit from samsung. The S-Pen kit makes you press the pen button accidentally all the time and it is way to flimsy feeling. I have the Carbon Feel, and I have to say it's as close to an executive feeling pen that I have ever felt. And yes, you can use this pen on the 10.1 or the Note 2. I've done it.

You can use the Native 10.1 pen on the Note 2, and vice-versa. So I'm not sure why some are saying you can't. Please don't make me post a video on it because I will.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
Another poster reported that issue and Wacom sent them a new one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Bruh-Man:
The Carbon Feel is Rock Solid. Too bad I had to remove an appendage to be able to afford to get it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Zantier:
Yes and the replacement started to crack as well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
Wow..... Have been using mine daily for a few weeks now, no cracking here. Crossing my fingers.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] jonasweb:
My bamboo is cracked too
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
Wow...... is yours black also?

How long after you started to use yours did the crack appear and can you send a photo so we can see if it is in the same place as the other photo poster in an earlier post in this thread?

Thanks.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] seb7o:
i really fear to buy this pen, carbon is way too expensive and this CS 300 and CS-300W are cracking easily as it is plastic.

isnt there any better alternative to the S-pen?

how should i search an alternative pen, do all capacitive pens work on the note 10.1?

i looked up this thread because after writing 4 A4 pages of paper on LectureNotes i must say my hand hurts a bit.

edit:

look at that

SAMSUNG AA-DP0NE2B/E Digitizer Pen
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Kikoshi:
It also as the pressure sensitive like the spen does?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] avargas8:
Mine cracked between the button down towards the tip. Now im just waiting on the carbon to arrive.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] apallohadas:
Just got my bamboo pen today. Holy crap the writing on the included paper work couldn't POSSIBLY get smaller!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] dima202:
offset issue

Has anyone found a way to fix the offset issue?

I bought the carbon fiber and love it... but the problem still exists. I tried fixing it in lecture notes, like one of the posters said, but I find that I change angles depending on where I am writing. I can't just hold it @ 90degrees all the time (when it's 100% precise). I need to be able to very my angle from 45 to 70 and have it precise all the time.

Actually I found that the original pen that comes with the tablet is more precise at varying angles.

Please, if anyone has a solution let us know!.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Tintinnuntius:
You can try shortening the tip. Pull it out and sand or cut away a tiny (really tiny, you can always cut more later) bit on the straight side.

It helps a bit since you shorten the distance between the pen and the screen. The tablet does not detect the tip but the bottom part of the pen, so the further the pen and the greater the angle (between the pen and the perpendicular) the greater the offset.

Just make sure it's not too short or you won't be able to pull it out of the pen. Also, give it some time after each cut since the tip seems to sink further in after a while.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] seb7o:
hey,

i think i got an alternative to this cracking wacom styluses

- and the over-expensive Carbon model.

SAMSUNG AA-DP0NE2B/E Digitizer Pen.

(samsung uk site, u can change the language on the bottom left).

Its a "Series 7 Slate PC Digitizer Pen"

it says its for Samsung Slate PC, but it works well with the note 10.1!

it has not only a button like the standard stylus, it has an erazer button,

like when using a crayon with a rubber on the other side. I tested all kind

of drawing/writing apps, and the erazer works well. I got big hands

and now i can write 10+ pages without pain :)

i barely made it to 10 pages with the standard stylus,

but more is not possible.

I got it from amazon germany for 30€ = ~ 39$ and its really worth it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Axel_:
Thanks a lot for the tips! Do you have the same kind of offset and pressure sensitivity problems with it that many other seems to have with spare pens?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=358549767&pf_rd_i=468294

By the way, I came across this cheaper pen that is specifically for the note. Anyone that have tried it, and even better know if there's any difference between the 7 series and this between from the eraser in the top (that I doesn't really need anyway).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] ron2k_1:
I own the Samsung 7 Series slate and the Note 10.1 and the note 2. On the note 2, the offset is horrible! Trust me, the included 5 S Pen is way better. On the 10.1 the offset is not so bad. For notes, you may notice any difference, but for drawing, it's gonna be a pain to start a line off where another one ends. I tried it several times, and the included S Pen on the tablet seems a bit more solid than the pen for the slate. Just my input.

Promo code STYLUS-BAMBOO4U still works by the way, in case anybody is still interested in getting a 25% disc't.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Gazedo:
wacom offset

I just got the Wacom feel and I'm very disappointed, almost 40 dollars and I find that is only accurate when held at 90 degrees. To fix this, is it possible to adjust the potentiometer? I also have trouble when lifting it seems like the sensitivity bounces and I get tiny random lines where I lifted.

Im considering returning this as defective and getting the series 7 pen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Axel_:
Thanks for the information! I think I'll maybe go for the official 10.1 pen then, it doesn't seem quite as solid as the slate pen but it doesn't matter if the slate got an offset and maybe other problems with pressure sensitivity according to some other threads. It seems to be a Russian roulette thing, someone says it works brilliant while some say it's horrible. Maybe it varies from device to device like the problems with bad isolation around the plug that makes drawing straight lines close to it impossible.

Well, if you are using LectureNotes for notes one can make the app compensate for offset but besides that I don't think there's anything to do about it. The calibration procedure at the old resistive PDA screens would be brilliant but unfortunately there isn't such a thing on the note.

The 7 series you say, any reason why you choose that over the official large 10.1 pen?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Gazedo:
I was looking at the series 7 but I meant the eraser Samsung for the note 10.1, I've heard that is pixel perfect.

I did try the offset correction in lecture notes but I switch between the two pens so much its a huge hassle. Plus the sensitivity bounce is a deal breaker, not sure what is going on with that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] seb7o:
I really had to think about what you mean with the offset.(I didnt know about the offset issues. ) I must say, using lecturenotes intensively for a week with that pen, when I dont hit the right place perfectly, I just make the try undone... It becomes more and more infrequent that I dont hit the right place, be aware of the possibility to zoom in. For my sake I changed the preferences, that when I hit the pen-button, I can move the page I am writing on. So you can be less accurate when you are zoomed in (for me its 130% normally) and move the page easily.

The samsung slate pen is just much better in the hand, especially when you got big hands. Thats why I bought it, I had my hand hurting after writing 10+ pages with the original "onboard"-pen. Btw. the new pen is gliding on the note 10.1 surface much smoother (its also really nice for drawings), I got some kind of crystal clear screen-protector and the original s-pen is "hanging" a bit, but only a tiny bit. This screen-protector will not be my final one, it was within the package of Anymode VIP. (I will replace it very soon with a matte screen-protector, I am curious about how the writing will be then.)

If you got any more questions about the slate pen on the note 10.1, just ask me, I can try to figure out an answer.

(samsung-uk linkl)

@topic:

Finally I must admit that the prices for this wacom technology pens are exorbitant because there is barely an alternative.

There are some people here who told their pen cracked, it would be nice if one of them would make a Picture of the inside of the Pen, I cant believe there are any valuable parts int it. (I dont want to break mine xD)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] The Apostle:
Just got mine and have to agree. It's very inaccurate compared to the OEM pen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Axel_:
If it's only LectureNotes you're having problems at (or like me, the only app you're using the pen in such a way you notice it) you can always make LectureNotes compensate in the settings, if for example the pen draws 1mm to the right and 1mm to the left compared to where you want to draw you can adjust it.

I'm having troubles decide if I should have the 7 series or the standard note. On one hand the 7 series looks more solid and simply better, but the performance of the note pen for a note must be a safer choice. And on top of that it's 10GBP less, so I might try that first and then a series 7 if I'm not satisfied with the note pen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
I don't seem to have the offset issue and I'm trying to understand exactly what you are all experiencing.

Here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTmeXL8T6TQ to a video of an Asus Vivotab that in my opinion has a terrible problem with accuracy. Go to 0:39 in the video, the pen tip and the dot on the screen seem to be on point but the line that appears on the screen is way off.

Is this the same condition you are all having or is the pen tip not on sync with the dot when it touches the screen?

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] The Apostle:
But if we spend extra money do by this pen we should not have to adjust anything. At $40 of the matt pen and $80 for the CF it should just work.

sent from a NoTel MoTel
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Axel_:
Of course you shouldn't have, especially since the Note tablet actually is listed as a supported device. However, since there aren't too many alternatives out there one can choose between adjust it and get a better pen than the original one or stick with it. But of course one shouldn't have to!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] babydo:
Is there anybody that has the Bamboo Feel and the SPen with an eraser that can provide input? I'm a college student and I'll use the stylus almost exclusively for note-taking. (On paper, I write with a Uniball Signo DX 0.38mm, pretty thin pen). I'm torn between these two. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Axel_:
Even though I haven't tested any of them I would go for the official SPen. The offset many have with the Bamboo would be really annoying I think and the SPen doesn't have any of these issues. And it's about as thick as your standard pen as far as I can tell.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] siddharta42:
The S-pen is entirely cylindrical and is much nicer to hold than the included pen. Very happy with it, the eraser is so useful for note taking.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] xiaotuo:
Just checked the BAMBOO store and really their prices are a ripoff.. Bamboo Stylus solo (CS100W) for e.g. costs 30$.. really :eek: I just bought three exactly the same (1:1), but without Bamboo logo - 1,5$ per piece. I like to use this Stylus instead of fingers.. Of course S Pen for note taking. I also got the BT S Pen for about 35$.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] jlobodroid:
After 90 days I got my bamboo from Wacom USA to Brazil and I very happy, it is a superb material, I recommend
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Hunter_Dreams:
I am waiting now for the Bamboo Stylus, but the Bluetooth S Pen could be another good option. Where have you find it for 35$??
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
Have you ever held a Bamboo CS100W Stylus......... I have one, got it at Amazon for $15.49 http://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-CS100W-Stylus-iPad-White/dp/B005SXT6RW They are weighted and balanced and far better than any of the long list of .25 cent to $4.00 ebay specials I have tried. I think 30 bucks is way to much and $15.49 for a stylus was hard for me to let go of also but it become my main stylus for general use on my Note 10.1. I use the factory S Pen mainly for note taking and I use my Bamboo Feel when drawing or writing for long periods.

I will say one important thing about the Bamboo CS100W Stylus..... For me the tip that comes with it is to soft so I got the firm tips and they are just right.

I also purchased a Gateway E-155 E-155C Wacom Executive Stylus Pen

with eraser

on ebay for $9.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/271125703841?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649.

It is almost the same as the Samsung S Pen W/ Eraser 8PI ($39.99) in looks and function (below)

Just my 2 cents from my experiences.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] tofutown:
I have tried both the Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel and the S Pen with Eraser. I prefer the S Pen because it doesn't have any offset and also the eraser. I had lost it after a month (so sad) and I bought the Bamboo Feel as a replacement. What a waste of $40!! The Bamboo Feel has just the right amount of weight for me and a nice, matte texture... but IT'S STARTED CRACKING AFTER JUST 3 MONTHS! I have a hairline crack off to the side near the nib area, and a much larger one that starts from the base of the silver nib holder thing.

I took a photo of the stylus (with the tablet, so it's a bit blurry, sorry)

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/4033/28vh.jpg

I am most definitely going back to the Samsung pen after this one becomes unusable.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] kkretch:
Wacom will replace it free of charge, I had a black one that did the same thing sent them a photo and they shipped it out very quickly.

I have a black and a white and I don't have an off set issue with either one. make sure your nib is pushed in all the way.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] tofutown:
[MENTION=5040390]kkretch[/MENTION] That's really cool of Wacom to replace them for free! Unfortunately, I won't be going back. I'm afraid the replacement will also start cracking after some time, since I use the Note so often. The offset was barely noticeable for notes but it somewhat bothered me while I was drawing... I'm just disappointed because I own a Wacom Graphire4 tablet and it's still in great working condition after 6 years! The quality of the stylus wasn't what I expected from such a prolific brand that makes only tablets and tablet accessories. :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] rcatkinson:
Have the white one, actually its my 2nd. The first one developed the cracks on the barrel after about 45 days. The placement one is starting to get the same cracks. I think the material used in the barrel is too thin and/or too brittle.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] Dr_Muhsin:
Wacom Bambo Feel, Help with Decision

hanks for ur info. i hope to make sure from u plz about the Ofset !! i really like this pen, even though without eraser.

i understand the its better to get carbon one to avoid any cracks for its better material

but due to its high price i needed to make sure from some one who already owns a Wacom Feel Stylus.

mainly for Writing not drawing

is there OFSETS on note 10.1, on SNOTe or any application, even when i hold it in natural position (with an angle to screen ) not 90 degree !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] ron2k_1:
I own a note 10.1 and note 2 and the Feel pen carbon.

On the Note 10.1 i can't notice any offset larger than what the stock pen already has. It's very stable and I dint notice any jitter. In terms of performance it is in par to the Note 10 pen.

On the Note 2, that's another story. The offset is horrible and it jitters a lot. I prefer to use the stock pen on the phone

In terms of comfort, the Feel is a winner for both drawing and writing. But I got to tell you, if you want it for note taking and you take lots of notes then I believe your fingers are going to get tired. The pen material is very hard and kinda on the heavy side.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] rcatron:
Wacom will replace your Stylus Feel (mine cracked as well) at no charge. I did it all through emailing their support/customer service, and sent them a few photos. Quick turn around. My new one has not cracked
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] SaintDanBert:
re: built-in stylus vs. Bamboo Feel

I've seen several items about removal of the built-in stylus before you may use the Bamboo Feel™.

(grin) There is a setting for this. Recent editions of Android have worked to stretch battery life. Samsung followed with an S-Pen setting called "Battery Saving" under v4.2.2 and v4.3. (It seems to me thatthat this option might be set on by default by recent firmware updates giving further symptom that the Bamboo Feel stylus has somehow failed.)

With this setting enabled, the device turns off the stylus-specific detectors while the pen is docked.

This means that an external stylus, like the Bamboo Feel, does not seem to work on your device until you remove the built-in stylus.

Simply disable the "Battery Saving" option -- clear the check mark -- and your Bamboo Feel will work even though your built-in stylus is safely stored in its docking hole.

ASIDE -- Thanks to the folks a Wacom® support for tipping me to this little detail.

Joyeux Noel,

~~~ *<:-}( )( )// Dan
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] psalmpsinga:
This is a fantastic post

This is a fantastic post. You cover almost every question I had. I do one more though. Does it have the functionality of the S-pen? Will all of the options activate using it? Like if you are writing in S-Memo, will it show the options for stroke types and tip types? Can you cut and paste with it?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] se1988:
It has the button, so it should work.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Accessories] gerberman:
sensitivity on 4.4.2

just updated to 4.4.2 and something is messed up with the sensitivity now...

i'm using lecturenotes and for some reason i get a lot of missing strokes...

also, compared to the original s pen, on 4.1.2 the FEEL had better levels of sensitivity than the original s pen, now it's the exact opposite O.o

anyone else experienced such issues?

is there a way to set the FEEL sensitivity?

thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bukhum4u:
I just watched the video on Ubuntu for phones os and its looks great! On the website, there's option for the lite version that will work with phones with minimum single core. I'm loosing hope on fully functional jb on this phone and I feel this is the last resort other than buying a new phone. Are you guys going to install it when it releases?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] tjsinghlion:
I really want to. But I just don't know how to go about doing that. Also your right, jb is just a maybe, and honestly I really want something stable and fast
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Androiduser148:
As long as most of the things work, I'm installing it as soon as it launches.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] lancelet1:
Indeed this is a breakthrough.... I am waiting for something like this to be installed on my nokia e7
[T-Mobile LG G2x] joeyxl:
Correct me, but did it not say it will have to be ported? I was reading if all devices will be getting it. Maybe it will be similar how cyanogen mod work and has different devs for different devices.

I would love to help with that if that is the case.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Androiduser148:
The Ubuntu website said that this odd based off the android kernel. It's probably ics kernel because it was on g nexus. This could be notable for us, we may never get this fully working.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] justforgot:
I will give it a shot if it ever comes on this phone
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Dr. Bogenbroom:
Uhhh, it'd be the same inherent problem we currently have with trying to get jellybean on these phones...nvidia (closed source) chips. Right? Drivers are pretty important little buggars.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] laod:
We may have problems yes. But I still would be very happy to be sportin' ubuntu on my phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] draky:
IMO, ubuntu on the G2x sounds amazing.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Boot_Derran:
I'll be watching for such development from my polished turd of a device...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] exaphor:
Definitely will try it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sickkside13:
Well hopefully the tegra 2 wont give Ubuntu issues
[T-Mobile LG G2x] cervantesjc:
It will give you problems, one of the requirements for Ubuntu on phones is that the have to be able to run ics or jb, nvidia drivers are required.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sickkside13:
Yup from now on stay away from LG and Motorola phones
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Dimension2035:
Except nexus 4. Google handles the updates not lg.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sickkside13:
Yeah u r rite on that one . I also have a motorola atrix hd at its bootloader its locked i dont understand how google would lock it
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sleepingturtle:
Not having the Java overhead would make it feel like a new phone. Hopefully it can be ported.

Sent from my Android powered coffee coaster.