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[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
So as you guys in the UK know HMV is closing and they have loads of sales on at the moment.

We've just managed to pick up the last two iPod touch 4G 8GB for £69.99 each.

They were ex-display models and have got scratches etc.

My brother has taken one of them, and the other one is left up to me or my sister... I'm not sure whether I should go for it.

I played with both (Ones on iOS 5 and the other on iOS 6) and the older version seems faster! But in general both devices are a little sluggish.

Should I decide to take it or leave it? I mean its only 8GB so the capacity is too small for my media needs, and I use my S2 for my music mostly... I also have my Desire S which I use as my backup device, without a SIM card.

I have a old 2nd gen iPod touch 32GB with my collection of all my music, but I haven't used it in months (it only serves as my alarm clock) because all the buttons are so unresponsive, they need to be pressed very hard, and its so slow and outdated. I can hardly download new apps, and opening apps like Facebook takes 3 minutes...

So should I take the iPod touch or not?

If I leave it, it will give me a higher chance of getting a new device in the future (I.e - iPad being handed down soon) etc.

Any thoughts?
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
In your position I'd let the sister have the iPod Touch and keep your fingers crossed for the iPad. It strikes me that the iPod would just be another tech toy to end up sat in a drawer unused - you have a music player already that is more than satisfactory for your needs.
[Off-topic] bronx:
My understanding is - android tablet to get some serious work done, also better for watching movies (mx player + usb otg connected pendrive) and tinkering with in spare time.

iPhone wins as a phone with it's great design, ergonomy and battery life. Also ios is not even half as bad as some people say. Rock solid, no stuttering, no freezes.

See? One can love both systems. :)
[Off-topic] shrome99:
@oly: Leave it. There's no point in an iPod when you have an S2. Mine is with my brother now too :p Wait for the iPad, it would be a huge improvement over your current tab
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Apple tablet is of no use whatsoever. My iPad (well, yeah now it's mine, since my dad has passed away and mom has my HTC Flyer) just lies around and I only use it to check something new on Cydia (jailbroken w/ iOS5 because scrudgy Apple didn't release iOS6 for it), do some stuff in Clash of Clans and Battlenations (the latest is quite badass, I am VERY dissappointed that it's not available for Android, though there is a MAC version of it), or play/chart songs for Tap Tap Revenge.

Plus iOS still has some exclusives on behalf of games.

And iPad hardware is (obviously) not even close to one of N7

So to me N7 does everything - gaming, browsing, chatting here on XDA, etc., plus it's way smaller and twice as light = more comfortable usage. Heck, my N7 has even almost replaced my DS:D

I believe that if we had a Mini - it wouldn't change much other than then fact that it would be as convenient to use as N7.

So the abovementioned combo of Android tablet + iOS phone (though it could easily also be WP7/8 phone, since both OSs are fast) is a pure win, but only with iP5 because iP4 doesn't ebpven match the lightness of my DS, and after a phone like Desire X it especially feels like a brick in hand
[Off-topic] hisname:
yea, that guy contacted me few days back asking me for help in testing his mod on the Desire S.

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Yeah thanks for the advice Simon. Where have you been lately anyway? :D

Thanks Shrome! Yeah those are my thoughts exactly. So when did you stop using your iPod? Was it on iOS 6?

The only thing I'll miss is the Apple ecosystem... Yes despite loving Android I'd like to use iOS again to experience the latest version if the OS properly. (I only had iOS 4 on my old iPod touch)

Also there are more apps on iOS, such as Clash of the Clans and FIFA 13, which I would love to have...

I'll just wait and hold out for the iPad (hopefully), but the new one doesn't come out till October AFAIK,so I don't think my Dad will upgrade for quite a while yet.

Cheers!

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[Off-topic] shrome99:
@oly: One day after I got my S3 :p I had started to slowly move all my major apps and games to my phone around the time when ICS came out, and this sped up when I got the Nexus 7 and found out that I could sync app data between devices. By the time I got my S3, I was only using my iPod for listening to music and checking XDA/Twitter. After using the S3 and N7, the iPod seemed tiny, and I realized that I didn't need it anymore, so I installed iOS 6 on it, jailbroke it and gave it to my brother, who had been pestering me for months.

The S3 and N7 seems to be a great combo, the only bad thing is both devices have low battery life, so at any given point of the day at least one of them is plugged into the wall :p
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
A Nexus 7 with 11.000 mAh battery would be killer, lol. But sadly a battery like that wouldn't even fit into N7
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Well I installed the swap mod, with a swap size of 111MB, it definitely feels a bit smoother. def good to try.
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
I've been lurking, just not participating much in anything recently.

Good days, bad days, as usual.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Oi oi stranger. How's you?

"A narcissist is someone better looking than you are."

- Gore Vidal
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
I'm fine thanks Glenn. Much the same as always - too much work, not enough life ...

How's everything treating you?
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Meh, not so bad. Upside :S3 is lovely, downside :I've returned 4 n7's over the last couple of weeks (issues with all of them) asked for a refund and I'm going to wait for next release. Work is so so, generally not bad cheers.

"A narcissist is someone better looking than you are."

- Gore Vidal
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Ah, I see thanks for all the help! :)

So I was thinking of resetting my iPod touch anyway since its so slow after being jail broken.

But the thing is, once I restock it, I won't be able to install any apps! Even simple apps like Facebook and Twitter require iOS 5 now... Its a joke. There's literally no app I can install from the apo store. I can even update existing apps.

Is there a work round for this? At the moment I still have my apps on it, which are probably months outdated! But once I reset it, I won't be able to get them back?!

Cheers

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[Off-topic] shrome99:
Well, if you regularly sync with iTunes, then all your apps should be on your pc too and after resetting, you can easily reinstall them.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Ok, time to flash something onto this bad boy. Tw is driving me nuts, any good suggestions?

Well not this ^^^ but you all know what i mean
[Off-topic] shrome99:
My first recommendation is Slim Bean, I've been using it for the last few days and I love it. If you don't like that you can also go with any of the 3 major ROMs, CM, AOKP or PA
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
What's the speed and battery like on them, with the lack of exynos source is have thought there would have been quite a few issues?

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."

- Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)
[Off-topic] hisname:
yep, it does feel smoother,currently on P.A.C man now... but I am quite curious, why does the MMC dies quickly if the /cache partition is used more often? I mean /data is used almost every min but our mmc doesn't die that quickly? weird....

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Off-topic] shrome99:
The camera has a few issues, but I can't give you details since I never use it. There were graphics glitches before, but they have reduced drastically after the 4.2 leaks. They're very fast and smooth, and battery seems to be more or less the same as stock.
[Off-topic] Tectas:
Mhl and wifi direct are two things that have to be put on the not working list, graphic glitches I haven't detected at any of the latest builds though and camera works also flawless for me, except of the slightly lower quality and that the first preview of a pick you take with the ffc sticks till you switch the camera or close and reopen the app. Except of that all fine so far and pretty fast, I'm currently myself on the latest pa.

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[Off-topic] hisname:
oh man... How long has search on xda been down? I thought XDA has always told people to use the search button but now, I have to use Google instead to search for threads...

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
@ben i have learnt an awful lot during my time on xda from people like yourself and Simon, amidabuddha, enigmaamit to name only a few. Like yourself coding isn't a skill i possess and helping out is something i enjoy and get a lot out of. I probably wouldn't be pushing for this so hard if it had happened across the board. Most users don't leave their device forums during their time on xda and the ot threads are a place where they discuss numerous things, ok not all of it is about the device but the majority of it is, kernels, settings even the none Sony panel thread i believe came out of a discussion on the ot. This single thread has been godsend to a lot of the regular questions that have arisen since people like nk111 and flinny brought JB to our devices. your probably right it might not cause the mods to lose any sleep, but is the inconsistency that's not annoying than anything else. I keep track of the n4 ot And your right rarely does anything to do with the device get discussed and a lot of thanks are handed out for pretty inane posts

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[Off-topic] :
Guys, maybe you think this is interesting. i got a nice offer from Xtremeguard over the mail :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2095608
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
I've seen it and thanks for the share

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

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[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Thank you - I've been looking at getting a handful of screen protectors in reserve but this makes it really good value and shipping is only $3.78 per order.

Good timing, now where is the damn 'Thanks' button when I need it? :p
[Off-topic] werked:
I've had it for a couple weeks.
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Football left XDA

Guys/Gals,

Have you seen this? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2095705
[Off-topic] hisname:
WTF happened? :confused::thumbdown:

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[Off-topic] UmairAhmad:
**** it happened:banghead:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Yeh i guess htc got fed up with the leaked RUUs. He's made his twitter private as well. Definitely the end of an era :(

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

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[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Or maybe he left HTC :) We all thought that he was an employee of HTC.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] shrome99:
Well, f**k. There goes my chance of seeing an early Sense 5 build :(

I'm pretty sure this is because they want the M7 to be as 'special' as possible, and make the release surprising unlike every other phone these days. There was nothing new in the iPhone 5 event that was not seen in leaks.
[Off-topic] ste_vlad:
Hi guys, just sold my DS today, I never was that much an active contributor to the forums but I've been lurking around for more than 1.5 yrs. This is definitely one of the best communities I've encountered around here, I'll continue following this thread going forward.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Well, I'm definately sticking with you guys for a year or so, since the chance of sellings my DS for a reasonable price to not have to add a lot of own monry on top to get a used GNex are very small
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Late to the party but...yes.
[Off-topic] bronx:
Doesn't matter mate. I've misunderstood you. My apologies and please understand, that we are the ones kind of kicked in the bollocks.

Peace
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Wow! that will be a huge blow to the HTC world on XDA.

Sad times.
[Off-topic] harshs23:
Hey guys, gave in to the One X deal I was getting earlier, the DS is gone.

Would like to thank Lowveld for his awesome ROMS and all the other members who made the DS forums exemplary.

Cheers and see you guys around. :good::good::good:
[Off-topic] Tapur007:
That's sad indeed !!!

Hope he's fine though...
[Off-topic] mike2nl:
You guys are really thinking he is away from HTC? Never believe me. I have warned XDA admins after a very strange action.

And this is only the beginning guys. More will happen....
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
What do you mean

I bet living in a nudist colony takes all the fun out of Halloween.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39926465

Cheers guys, guess I'll just have to format, flash and try. Must link up to pc and sort out and backup the internal memory first :thumbup::cool:

"Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn."

- Arnold Schwarzenegger
[Off-topic] Tectas:
Just a small teaser what you can expect, but ground breaking, but pretty nice (fits for most aosp Roms so far, the test has been done without cheating) (siyah 1.9.1 with stock values except slight CPU overclock to 1.5 GHz).

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[Off-topic] pughie:
I was amazed at the difference in scores between my Nexus 4 (see attached running rasbeanjelly and Franco with no over clocking) and the score on my old S3 that my work mate had (2900 ish) how the hell is the N4 scoring so highly in comparison?
[Off-topic] pughie:
Not sure if the above attachment worked :o XDA app is giving me loads of s**#
[Off-topic] Tectas:
Pretty simple, this is an opengl es 2.0 test and that's one of the weak spots of the old mali.

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[Off-topic] pughie:
Thanks for the reply, I've not noticed any great step up in "real world" performance from my S3, so was amazed at the discrepancy in the scores we achieved the other day :)
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Yay, it's finally spring here in Russia. Still with a lot of snow, though, but at least there's no ice
[Off-topic] pughie:
Just read on twitter that the 3dmark test is flawed anyway :( if you touch the screen during the test it freezes the time and fps but not the frames rendered, releasing the touch continues benchmarking, seen simms22 scoring over 20k
[Off-topic] Tectas:
That's why I added "without cheating" before ^^

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[Off-topic] pughie:
:D Im a step slow today, sorry
[Off-topic] Taranis:
Hi guys,

I'm planning an upgrade slowly. Firstly, I was almost decided for something with Adreno 320, but I've noticed that after few month Adreno 330 will be released with Snapdragon 800. Performance difference will be noticeable as it's stated in many sources. What do you think? Is it worth waiting?

Hope Motorola X Phone will have Snapdragon 800. :)
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Backup your EFS partition. enigmaamit had suggested to do so for my friend.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus

---------- Post added at 05:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:35 AM ----------

Wait as long as you can, you will get the best hardware. :p

On a more serious note, would you really feel the difference between Snapdragon 600 and 800?

The current hardware is just quick enough, IMHO Awe don't need more processing power nor pixels.

Choose anyone between S4/One, I doubt it will dissappoint you.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Upgraded my laptop to Win8 yesterday. Dayum, this thing now seems to run faster than on Win7.

I have some troubles with default Metro apps - they think that there's no internet connection available, so Maps, News, Weather, Xbox Marketplace, People and couple of other don't work and display "Offline" message in the upper part of the screen.

But that's no a big deal, since I barely use my laptop for any of the abovementioned things

The Metro UI itself is kinda nice and not too hard to control with a mouse (plus there's a full navigation control with mouse wheel to scroll from left to right and backwards), but it's strange that you can only access the multitasking panel or the control panel by moving the cursor over to the top left or top right corner

The transition between then visual desktop interface and the Metro UI is used with a Win key and is VERY FAST.

So, so far this OS is nice, and since I installed it on top of my Win7 - I still have all the drivers installed, so I guess there should be no trouble with connecting N7 or DS to the laptop

But it's definitely better to use on a touch screen or at least with a touchpad or a full-fledged Win8 tablet

(Surface RT is 20.000 RUB for 32GB version + 3800 for keyboard case, 2 tablets with full Win8 are sold for 38 and 46k RUB, which is pretty close to buying a real laptop with W8 onboard)
[Off-topic] ste_vlad:
Totally agree on Win 8, still amazed at the amount of hate it gets. It still has some quirks, but works better than Win 7 on the same hardware. It just takes too much from people to keep an open mind and embrace the new experience.

It's like party in the front (Modern UI) business in the back (Desktop) ;)

My favourite app so far is ReddHub, yup,wasting my life on reddit takes a big part of my day...

BTW you can (sort of) try the touch interface with an Android tablet and Splashtop, works like crap but you can get a feel of the gestures
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Problem is that I don't have Wi-Fi shared from the router at home, and I doubt it will work with Wi-Fi from an operator (BeeLine)

But would Nexus 7's power be enough to get a more or less good experience?
[Off-topic] ste_vlad:
I did it on the GTab 8.9 which is Tegra 2 so it should fly on the N7. AFAIK for the free version of Splashtop to work both devices have to be on the same network. The paid version works over the internet but it's quite expensive at 8.99$. Of course you can work around it by setting up vpn to your pc ;) but that's a different discussion
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Hmm, I'll consider trying this setup, then. Though such OS as Win8 is nowhere near suitable for 7" screen

But since my laptop and my N7 has almost same screen resolution (13" with 1366x768 and 7" with 1288x800) I believe it should display with no problems

Thanks for the advice,though, I'd never think about this combo :D
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Desire S or Desire Z?
[Off-topic] bronx:
Desire S. Much better phone.
[Off-topic] Fastrite:
My understanding is they are much the same with the Z having a HW keyboard. So I guess it would depend on whether you wanted a HW keyboard :p
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Then how is it much better?
[Off-topic] Tectas:
Desire s: 768mb ram, 1ghz, unofficial official update able to ice cream sandwich

Desire z: 512mb ram, 800mhz, official end of updates at gingerbread

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[Off-topic] :
Aww yeah. my first app (with purpose) :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2225072
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
This ^^^^^^^^^^if you can check you have the Sony panel on it, if its mddi your going to have issues with non-sense JB roms
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
To those N7 owners ourt there, what are your thoughts on the new 2nd generation N7?

Will anyone be upgrading? Will the N7 still have a long life span? Will Google be pricing it similar to the existing one?

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[Off-topic] jugg1es:
What's the general consensus on the "power bank" cases for the s3,worth getting one or not. Will it have any affect on the lifespan of the stock battery do you think?

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."

- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower (1887-1956)
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Yeah but your clock speed comment doesn't matter because desire z can OC stably to 2 ghz

They also haz 3.0 kernel with stable jb 4.2.2
[Off-topic] Tectas:
As the desire S can and has, so what's your point. Overclocking to such a high rate is anyway senseless, except you have a spare battery with you to pass a day with normal use. But anyway take into account that the desire S uses the same soc as the sensation xl (msm8255) which there is even clocked at 1.5 GHz at stock speed, so calculate yourself how good it compares to the msm7230 soc of the desire z.

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[Off-topic] :
My N7 still has very good hardware and i'm very pleased with it. I definitely do not need a N7 (.2)

And yes, Google will price the N7 at the same price, it's the whole market strategy of the N7 so they wont throw that away.
[Off-topic] shrome99:
My thoughts exactly ;)
[Off-topic] hisname:
but will the N7 version 2 be available in markets that were selling N7 version 1?

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Why not? They already know how much hype has the original tablet produced and the install base is pretty big already, they would be fools to lose the opportunity to get $$$ as resellers of 2nd generation + I hope Google and Asus will prepare for the launch even better and deliver as much N7v2 as the public will demandu
[Off-topic] ste_vlad:
Been playing with the new Play Store version. Looks like they finally made it so that when you look at the list of installed apps, access an app screen and then hit back it remembers the position.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Don't like the colours and the setup kind of reminds me the froyo market. It'll look better inverted or Holo

"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

- Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
[Off-topic] hisname:
i still don't see the updates here:(
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Sideload it

"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

- Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
[Off-topic] hisname:
will do that when i reach home.still in school now.I am thinking of changing my tablet soon,i am looking at the ASUS memopad 7 and N7,which do you think i should take?budget >$300SGD....should i wait for the next gen N7???
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Anyone in the UK, there's a nice Android docking station selling cheap at Tesco. From £108 to £20...

It charges the phone as well as function as a Bluetooth speaker. Quality is decent.

My brother picked one up for his San Diego and works well, it even syncs the time with the time on the device and the weather.

I'm yet to try it on my phone later, but it seems compatible with most Android handsets.

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[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Thanks mate. That looks like a damn good deal indeed.
[Off-topic] lars1216:
That looks like a great deal. :eek: to bad I'm not in the UK nor do I know anyone that is. :(
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Samsung Android Screen Sizes (source twitter) :

2.8

3.14

3.2

3.4

3.5

3.6

3.65

3.7

3.97

4

4.2

4.27

4.3

4.5

4.52

4.65

4.8

5

5.3

5.5

5.8

6.3 ...

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[Off-topic] lowveld:
And that's what makes developing consistent-looking apps for android so much fun...
[Off-topic] Fastrite:
Do you think they need a couple more sizes :D

Have you got your Pi yet.

I'm on openELEC now (Thanks lowveld)
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Include their tablet range and it goes up to

7.0

7.7

8.0

8.9

10.1

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[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Yeah pi is all set and running OpenELEC custom build by rbej.

Lowveld, I think, I heard that you did your own build? What did you add?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] :
Well... Just sold my Desire S, but with pain in my heart :)

ill defo keep sticking around here ;)
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Mine's currently running Fallout v5 and is on loan to a friend who dropped her Lumia 710 in a bucket of water. Still giving me great service after almost 2 1/2 years, just not as my main device anymore.