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[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
There is nothing compelling enough on the s4 to make it a device worthy of an upgrade from the s3 except the desire to own the latest and most expensive device.

I believe technology has finally hit a plateau in terms of revolutionary mass produced products and until software as well as battery tech can catch up with hardware in terms of development, this mad spec race will continue for the sake of launching new phones every year, which do almost the same things as older devices and just as well...

8 cores, 4 cores, spec sheets and synthetic benchmarks are all that it's about nowadays. I believe the best made phone this year easily goes to the HTC one. At least they've reinvented the design, the camera, the ui... whether it sells in sufficient numbers (and whether HTC stops being a ***** about its bootloader policies) or not is yet to be seen, but at least they are using their best talent to come up with new products... this is what drew me to the desire s initially...

I think it's safe to give this year's phone upgrade a miss. Nothing to see here... move along.

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[Off-topic] hisname:
awww, my contract is ending in June. what should I get?

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[Off-topic] razi914:
I think every company should focus on making the best battery, smallest and the longest! Instead of making 5 inch craps :p
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
If you ask me, HTC One

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[Off-topic] shrome99:
+One xD

EDIT: Good read - http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/15/samsung-htc-design-marketing-battle/
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
True, the design of the One is nicer, but the S4 is octa-core, and the One only quad?

Also, although we all feel its a disappointment, the sales of the S4 will be phenomenal.

1.8 million S2 owners whose 2 year contract has come to an end are expected to upgrade to the S4...

Personally, given the choice I'd go for the S4.
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
It's a pair of Cortex A5 and A15. For all practical purposes the OS will see 4 cores. It's just a spec war IMHO.

A good read here, a different perspective.

http://xplod.fr/blog/?p=19

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Only quad!? Are you kidding!? ONLY!?

Jeez, it reads/sounds as if Android really needs 8/12/16/... cores to "stop lagging"

I'm getting sick of this useless hardware race
[Off-topic] lowveld:
Got a very nice deal, and pulled the trigger on MacBook Pro, 13" Retina, core i7 @ 2.9GHz, 8GB DDR3, and 256GB SSD. Arrived today.

So... Go, shoot at me. :)

But say what you will, I've never seen a laptop as solid, and I won't even mention the screen....
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Well even Google employees use mac's, so there is no reason to shoot you down :p. It's IOS vs Android, not OSX vs Android :D

MBP is some serious hardware, how would Linux run on it?

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[Off-topic] rayulove69:
I'm thinking GS4 sales will plummet in comparison to S3 . Most users won't feel obligated to upgrade for what new they are offering with this device . It will attract a whole lot more new customers though . Personally I think this is the way it should be. So a flagship launched a mere 10/11 months ago don't suddenly feel dated. It never should.
[Off-topic] hisname:
well, I am kinda sick of sense TBH. It will start lagging after maybe a few weeks? sense consumes tooooooo much resources IMO. I have tried many sense base roms on our DS and guess what? Only lowveld 's fallout rom doesn't lag as much.... even the one by Skanob which was base on stock ics makes my DS crawls like a turtle after A few days of usage... but I am kinda wondering octa core is kinda too much. well I don't really like htc after rooting my DS. problem is with all this s off crap. I have to flash the boot.img every single time I flash a new rom.

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Lol I just downgraded my DS back to CyanogenMod 7 with Android 2.3.7 and have no problems :D
[Off-topic] hisname:
wow, amazed that people are not sick of GB UI

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[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
You are comparing Sense 4 experience on a 1GHz device with Sense 5 on a A15 quad the beast? ::o

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[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Does seem like one massive **** fight.

As already said in thread and all over the place, what's needed is a battery technology race, or a decent new invention like WiFi charging :P

I'm not a gamer myself, but I played a couple this week and was equally impressed with their quality as I was unimpressed with the speed in which my battery dropped.

Both the new devices look spectacular, both with equally impressive comparable specs.

I'll hopefully get the opportunity to trial them through work at some point, in which case will no doubt say a great deal more.

Although I'll personally be passing on both.

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I'll look forward to trying out the new slimmed down sense version.

Now being a complete convert to plain old android, or in my case AOKP. How people can change. :)

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@suku

It all obviously now depends on whether or not I have a big day today... As with a pregnant wife, I may well have to have an early night, which well mean sky+ (HD) time delayed watching for the entire event, qualification and then race back to back..... Exciting. Although that would obviously require a complete media blackout.
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Well, for me as well the remaining qualifying session will have to be watched recorded.

Good that I got a Tata Sky+ HD few weeks back. Perfect timing for F1.

As I said on Facebook.

"It's that time of the year again. Forget the hard fought and tense India vs Australia series, forget all about buildup to IPL, forget all about RMR vs FCB, CR7 vs Messi, forget all Nadal vs Fed vs Joker battles.

Its again the time to smell rubber burning on tarmac, witness 5 world champions going head to head.

Its F1 time in a week. Welcome to Melbourne, this time on ESPN HD."

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Nothing to be sick of, at least to me. I like that HTC followed that black background/white text style all the way down until Sense 4, it looks elegant to me.

Plus I like the green theme on CM7:D

Though of course Android 4.x's Holo UI is pretty

But since we don't have a proper 4.x ROM, and everyone of them has bugs, and Sense runs either without some features I need or pretty laggy - I find that Gingerbread is the way to go ATM. Especially for MDDI screen devices that can't run the latest 4.2 ROMs 'cuz it's very slow and totally unpleasant experience

/gotta get a Nexus phone someday, geez
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Have to agree, well mostly, although my main priority is still the completion of the English premier league and FA Cup competitions, since we were dumped so horribly out of CL.... Manchester united.

But I do love the GP and you're right sky now have the complete package HD 5.1 it's great.

Just looked for you on FB....I now see why your suku_Patel_22 on here... not so ready to find..:D
[Off-topic] shrome99:
Another rumor, LG Nexus 5 - http://androidandme.com/2013/03/news/rumor-is-this-the-lg-nexus-5/ I don't even slightly believe this one
[Off-topic] hisname:
well not really. I had tried touchwiz on my brother 's galaxy ace running on froyo. its quite smooth actually, not really that obvious lags. I have also tried touchwiz on my friend's S3. its quite smooth, well he claimed that the leaked 4.2 rom is even smoother. I don't know that for sure.... coming back to sense, my mum' s incredible s with the latest ics update is kinda bad. She says that her battery drains a lot faster now. She charges her phone nearly twice daily:eek::eek:. well even though I have not tried sense 5 yet and neither have i tried htc one, still I have no hopes on HTC anymore. Just look at our saga, incomplete binaries that resulted the MDDI panel having max brightness on JB. Look at htc bootloader, why is there a "security flag"? unlocking our bootloader is just enough and we should be able to flash what we please.

just my 2¢

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[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
The BPL title race is practically over :p

But yeah the FA Cup... Looking forward to the replay.
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
I agree but then I thought that last season and look what happened there.. It still hurts me to think of the final three minutes of last season
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
It's Sukumar Patel on FB. :)

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Well, sh*t, look at that:cool:
[Off-topic] shrome99:
That's why I don't believe it. This is not very realistic IMO
[Off-topic] hisname:
where is the nav bar?

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
But it's still pretty,you gotta agree:D
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
I have a feeling the next nexus will be from Motorola. Google's got to do something to justify the money they sunk in it...

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[Off-topic] shrome99:
Yeah, and with direct control over the hardware, they can ensure that there will be no supply issues this time.

BTW, do you use a cover/bumper on your phone? Also, what about a screen guard?
[Off-topic] hisname:
I don't think it might be called a nexus 5....look at this. Google has a nice way of naming nexus.

Nexus 1 ––>Nexus 4––>Nexus 7––>Nexus 10––>Nexus 13(??)

from the next nexus to the other, all of them are +3.

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[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
I have a blue s3... I use the genuine Samsung flip cover. Protects the camera lens, the screen as well as it looks super cool... probably the most refined and perfectly fitting cover I've seen for the s3 so far.

Also gives privacy from prying eyes... you can hold the flap as a kind of wall at an angle to the screen. Moreover, since it replaces the back, it doesn't add much to the thickness of the phone unlike third party covers.

Couple it with a proximity sensing app and you can use it as auto screen on/off accessory too.

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
It's a concept
[Off-topic] shrome99:
@enigmaamit: I have one too (my uncle used it), but I didn't use it till now since I felt the device was too big as it is, and even a slight bulk was too much to handle. Now that I'm used to (and in love with) the screen size, I'll switch to it as my main cover :) Know any proximity sensing apps that don't drain the battery much?
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
totally agree, once they get the X series out, it will be all focus on the next Nexus
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
All proximity sensing apps will drain battery... there is one that looks promising, but the trial version didn't work so well for me so I didn't buy it... called proximity screen off pro.

it's actually very good with a lot of customization, but requires a piece of white paper to be stuck to the inside of the flip cover to properly block the sensor... doesn't work well with the blue color cover, for reasons I fail to understand... still looking for the perfect app.

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[Off-topic] hisname:
I don't think it looks nice. besides the next nexus might be with mortorola

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[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
The gap gets wider :D
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
What a start to the F1 season!!

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[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
couldn't agree more... Surprised by Lotus and very happy with the performance of Lewis! McLaren need to pull their stocks up.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Aww, I already missed the first race of the season?
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Lotus was indeed a surprise, although they did do well during the practice. Going to be an interesting season

All our dreams can come true – if we have the courage to pursue them.* ~Walt Disney
[Off-topic] razi914:
Mango looking egg!
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Got my rPi today.

@lowveld, what have you added to your OpenELEC build?

Edit : Rummaging drawers for SD cards and all I can find is class 2 cards lying around.

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Strange, but this year just doesn't seem to excite or show any surprizes in terms of mobile techologies. Samsung came up with SGS3S, HTC came out with a new flagship model that will probably get an update in the following months and doesn't have an original name, Sony released a not-so-nice Xperia Z with a crappy screen...

Looks like all the hopes are left for LG to come up with a new Nexus phone or Motorola to release an actually new and interesting device under direct control from Google

I don't even want to look at what Apple has to offer since we all already know what it's going to be (iPhone 5S, the New New New iPad, iPad mini w/ Retina)

*sigh* I'm kinda dissappointed
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
lol, if i may quote myself...
[Off-topic] shrome99:
Interesting piece of news, SGS2 and Note to be updated to 4.2 - http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/

This is slightly surprising, considering it came with GB, and even Google's GB device (Nexus S) didn't get 4.2, but it was probably because of hardware limitations.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Yeah, I'll be very happy if this is true.

I guess it still because the S2+ will have to get the update and its brand new.

I'll be very happy.

True, but keep in mind the S2 hardware was much more advanced than the Nexus S, which is based on the 2010 original Galaxy S, whereas the S2 and note are one generation ahead.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Hopefully we will get some of the new features from the S4 as well which are not hardware dependent.
[Off-topic] _Variable:
Dual core user here, still going well...

A Nexus branded chromebook!

I wonder how the farmer reacted.

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Wow, Sammy and Sony seems to show the best device support on Android market
[Off-topic] c.m.b:
Wrong thread, sorry
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
CM developers passing on Samsung Galaxy S4 phon.es/vnx

Via Android Central

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[Off-topic] shrome99:
They said the same thing about S3, though I'm having a hard time finding links :p Trust me, even if official CM devs won't, someone else will certainly build CM for it. A build will come up in less than a month of release. If mid range devices with absolutely no popularity can get AOSP, why won't a Samsung flagship?
[Off-topic] :
What are you guys thoughts about the Xperia T? My DS is really up to replacement and its a not too expensive phone with though a sleek design.

Would it be worth upgrading for the next 1 a 2 years, or should i wait?

Cheers
[Off-topic] hisname:
is budget a issue? why not go for the z? its after all Sony ' s flagship. from what I heard team hacksung have mostly went to the z. The T is quite a piece outdated hardware. are you going to stop developing for the DS after you leave? what about AOKP? any progress on request for you to become our official maintainer? ;)

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[Off-topic] ste_vlad:
I would recommend the One X over the XT, I 'm in love with the phone. The screen is amazing and with JB is as smooth as possible, it seems it will most certainly get 4.2.2 and Sense 5 and highly possible to get KLP. Prices should have dropped by now since One is coming soon . And let's not forget about the enthusiast community here in xda.
[Off-topic] hisname:
one X? AFAIK, there is no s off available yet(please tell me if I am wrong). due to tegra chipset, there are many documentation not available. Also, there are some wifi issues with the one X and HTC has blatantly admitted the mistake. holding the phone is some angle (like the iPhone 4)will result in wifi drop.

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[Off-topic] ste_vlad:
Yes, no Soff, kernel has to be flashed the fastboot way. However stock is so good that until now I haven't felt the need to unlock it (and I was quite the flashaholic when I had the DS :)), also I want to keep the 2 years warranty intact, thinking maybe to sell it and get One :D

The wifi issues were hardware related and HTC fixed them on warranty, it was a problem with some connector that came loose AFAIK. Only some batches were affected, by now however this shouldn't be an issue.

And I forgot to mention how great the design is, it's a phone you keep finding reasons to keep it in your hand.

To add some cons so you don't think I am completely biased:

-battery life can be a little sketchy, for me not a problem since I am close to a power supply most of the time

-"only" 32 gb of storage with no expansion storage
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
subscribed...
[Off-topic] werked:
this

This

And.....

This >>>> :sly: :p :cool: :D
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I want a Nexus 10. :(

When did you get it? :confused:

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] Fastrite:
I thought so! :p

Thanks from my CM10.1 DS
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
No way:eek:
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
What? I'm not allowed to want stuff? :rolleyes:

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Yup, those were some good days weren't they...? XDA is slowly losing its charm for me too. I'm more of a hit and run now, peeping in to see what's new and quietly downloading what I need. The DS forums were the only place I felt like stepping in and discussing everything under the sun. It's also where I learnt everything I know about android.

Most of us have moved to other devices, but I still miss the DS boards like a prodigal son. And @juggles, I see you are sympathetic towards the mods' decisions, but just because they can, doesn't mean they should.... It's like every mod cab do what he feels like... there are different standards in different crevice forums, depending on the mods whims... there should be uniformity in an international forum... proper protocol and guidelines used to take decisions like this that affect numerous regular users. Instead we have half cocked self righteous power infused mods shooting down threads which are more useful than most actual ROM threads in this forum.

But all good things eventually come to an end... and I guess this disintegration is slowly gaining momentum.

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[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
This was epic :D:p

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Um, you are. But I never knew you're a girl
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
@ enigmaamit

If You believe that I'm sympathetic towards the moderation team for removing the ot from the device forum then you are mistaken. I truly believe that this is a very wrong decision and shows a complete lack of consistency across the board. From what i can see this is the only moderation team to take this stance, And for them to state that the thread offers nothing to the device forum just goes to prove that they obviously didn't read Anything in it. I don't know if your are aware but the plight of the ds ot thread had been defended by members from general ot in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1987254

[All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA where FallenSparten had said that one device specific ot thread would be allowed but that decision would be down to the individual team and our new team has taken a very wrong stance on this

He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever.

Chinese Proverb
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Nothing personal against you mate, just venting my frustration, that's all.

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[Off-topic] jugg1es:
I know, and we all feel the same about it. But believe me I've no sympathy for this decision at all. Which is why I've suggested not answering questions in general q&a so the mods can see that the thread was what bound everyone together and made the device forum what it was

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Viva la Revoluzione!
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
So, are you in?

Anyone else?

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

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[Off-topic] SimonTS:
As before;-
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
I fully understand your reasons for this and respect them. It's a shame but cool :thumbup:

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

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[Off-topic] SimonTS:
I just feel that we, as a community, need to make a point to the 'powers-that-be'. I am well aware of the history of XDA, but it is not simply a site for developers now. It is a community and we, the users, are a major part of that - we carry out the beta-testing, find solutions to a lot of the problems, help out (or sometimes just kick in the right direction) other users with problems.

If XDA lost the support of its knowledgeable users across the board then it would very soon collapse - can you imagine if the Devs had to deal with all the repeat questions that we (you guys mostly) answer on a daily basis?
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
@Simon that's the point I'm trying to get across with this little coup, by not answering all the repeated questions and leaving them for the mods to deal with it may make them realise what they've done to our little community as a whole. But this will only work if all of the people that answer the "have i bricked my phone" questions just stop answering them.

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

Douglas Adams
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Unfortunately I suspect that any boycott would make little difference, it certainly wouldn't cause the mods any change of heart or loss of sleep.

For me it would be a bit like 'cutting your nose of to spite your face' as personally I always found a great deal of enjoyment and satisfaction in providing support and helping others. Not being able to code myself its my only way of putting back into xda and repaying the huge amount I get from it.

The reality is that general Xda evolution has meant I spend very little time assisting in DS forums anymore. It was great fun while it lasted and I found it very educational, but time moved on, people changed devices, fortunately the existence of this thread will hopefully keep some of the old bunch together (i certainly intend to keep it in my signature as a place marker and suggest you consider the same). It would be a real shame to lose touch with the people I feel I got to know so well.:thumbup::):beer:

Without meaning to start repeating myself I can actually see the reasoning behind the idea of the OT thread removal and would agree with it, if it was done across the board, it's just the inconsistency that's so annoying. :(

Watching the N4 OT thread which is mainly a chat room used by the same handful of individuals who have probably exchanged hundreds of THANKS each, does de-value the point of Thanks and completely justifies its removal and placement in OT forum. (I'm aware that we did just that ourselves on a smaller scale so as not to sound too hypocritical).

Ben
[Off-topic] hisname:
2 things that are deal breakers for me.

1. removable battery

2. sd card slot

in fact I don't care about the design. I can have a beautiful looking phone, but the only functions it had is to text and call:eek:that has defeated the purpose of owning a smartphone nowadays isn't it?

whereas, i can have an ugly design but it had plenty of features and a power house under the hood.

let's wait for Google I/O. maybe Google has something up its sleeve. The next nexus could be coming up to fight with the Xperia Z, HTC One and Sammy S4.

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[Off-topic] :
Well kinda budget issue. I buy my phones without plan and I just feel 400 euros is good enough for a phone. (bought my ds two years ago for 400 as well :p)

I'm continuing AOKP untill my ds really dies (maybe change over time) but I won't come with new stuff for the ds.

AOKP didn't approve the 'officialization' yet, idk why :p
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
obvious question, why not the N4?
[Off-topic] :
No doubt that it is a good phone, but I prefer a brand like Sony or HTC over LG, plus I would need to import it, which raises the price quite. The N4 does not sell here :-/

And I already have an N7 for my AOSP needs ^^