yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Thanks for the link! So, I'm not the only one having this issues. Anyways, I will look for a charger during my class trip in Berlin and then, if not succeeded, will just do the steps mentioned in my previous post and try to get a new one. Thanks for all your efforts to help me!
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Seems like I'll have to get the Nexus 4 instead of GNex...
[Off-topic] hisname:
why the sudden change?
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Guess what - no retail shop have it in stock
[Off-topic] hisname:
eBay?
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
yeah right

[YOUTUBE]ULYvNs-Rm_4[/YOUTUBE]

^

this is how my american GNex would be treated here, most likely it would arrive cracked and broken
[Off-topic] hisname:
ouch!! I have only seen such incidents on China airlines.
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Same was with our family luggage in the airport, when we arrived to Russia. lol
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
See? Told ya:p
[Off-topic] quebec90:
Samsung Galaxy Tablet or Ipad
[Off-topic] NVardan:
What generation Tab do you want?

Anyways, as an avid Android Fanboy I would say the Galaxy Tab (although I don't like Samsung's android devices that much).
[Off-topic] eyahl:
Hey mates. I'm back from the nexus journey, just got my one and feel home again :)

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Congrats buddy

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] :
I feel tempted to go to the One too, since I'm allowed to pick a new phone when ill be extending my plan.

Either the One or a Sim only :p

How is the One in your opinion?
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
So we have just acquired the Galaxy Camera. Nice camera. Handy that its android too, as you can upload videos straight to YouTube.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Is everything going to be equipped with Android in the future?
[Off-topic] hisname:
refrigerators are also equipped with android now.
[Off-topic] eyahl:
It's just awesome. Go to a store, get your hands on a one and you don't want to put it away anymore.

Aluminum body, boomsound, infrared power button, great pictures with camera at low light, excellent build quality... Couldn't find anything negative until now.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Err... the bootloader?

Sent from my stapler
[Off-topic] hisname:
there is s off for the HTC one. with bootloader unlocked opens up the boot partition too.

only the radio and hboot are still locked(if you are s on)
[Off-topic] shrome99:
HTC One with HTC Dev unlock can flash Kernels from recovery, it isn't semi-unlocked like in the past (at least that's what I've heard).
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
Shrome is correct, you can flash kernel in recovery with HTC Dev unlock. On top of it, but we have revolutionary S-OFF too
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
guys, are there any iTunes-like programs for Android devices? I think Google really missed on that one because it's often kinda difficult to operate with app downloads and updates if you have a crappy wi-fi or not wi-fi, so only thing that often I have to face is using the apk's for new versions (aloing with caches)... not really convinient IMO
[Off-topic] eyahl:
Exactly. I already unlocked bootloader and rooted the device. But still didn't flash anything, want to experience stock a little bit..

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] :
hehe, ill definitely do :good:

Thanks :)
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Dudes! Look what the courier has just delivered to me!
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Nice, happy flashing m8.:thumbup:

“My congratulations to you, sir. Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good. ”*―*Samuel Johnson
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
congratulations....welcome on board! Enjoy.

what are your unlock, root, radio, ROM and kernel plans? As I can't believe you've not been researching
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
All you guys with the Nexus 4, what is the GPS like on it? I'm finding more and more that I need a reliable GPS in my phone and it's something that my LG 4X HD struggles with at times as soon as I come off the Stock ROM.
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
not being a car driver, I don't use it that often, but when my wife drives I occasionally use it with Google maps navigation and it's always fine, although never read many negative comments from others and we know how people love to vocalize their issues.
[Off-topic] lowveld:
I use it more or less regularly. Not only its accurate, it gets a lock ridiculously fast compared to the DS.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Thanks guys, I haven't been able to find a GNex for a reasonable price, so I had to go with N4 route - not that I dislike it in any possible way - and I saved about 100$ compared to local GNex prices where it's still available in stock:D

I'm currently planning to root + apply custom recovery and make a pretty much same setup as I have on my DS now, plus I don't have any customs ROMs on my N7 - I like it 99% stock :P

Same goes for kernels and such, since I have a N7 for gaming (PSOne emulation has never been so good for me, oh the nostalgia:crying:). And damn, it's REALLY big, much bigger than the DS :eek: But I still like it, and the on-screen keyboard is sweet, now I jsut have to unlock the 4G capabilities (I hope that N4 supports Russian frequencies) and get myself uberspeed of mobile data :laugh:
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
What GPS apps are you guys using for Android?

Which ones are the best? I use Google Maps occasionally, but it uses data, and once I pass my driving test I'll probably want a better GPS app with offline storage.

At least my DS will have a purpose, it can serve as a permanent GPS device in the car. :)

Some of the GPS apps I've seen on the market are quite expensive, is it all worth it?
[Off-topic] hisname:
sygic is worth the cost. using it for months and have never ever touched Google maps again. I would use A-GPS lock for faster locking.
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
you'll get used to the size after a few days and soon you'll laugh at how strangely tiny the ds feels and wonder how on earth you managed to use it so happily for so long...then pick up a wildfire it's like a child's toy that someone shrunk.

Whilst I initially loved the default swipe style android keyboard it wasn't a touch on the Swype (which is now a market app) that I'd always previously used so back to happily using that
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Lol, I sure as hell now what it's like to use Wildfire S, it felt small even compared to my old iPod touch 4 which I sold before christmas

But yeah, N4 is, while being pretty big, actually doesn't feel like it is - feels pretty much nice in my hand. TBH, I already had an experience with a 4.7" phone, which was the Samsung Galaxy Premier, so I realize that 4.7" is still not TOO big. Maybe even a 5" device would feel somewhat close, but I haven't ever held a Galaxy SIV or HTC One or Oppo Find 5 to realize how does such a phone feel.

What I DO know that is Galaxy Note and Galaxy Note II would be TOO MUCH for me, I'd rather get a tablet instead (especially since GNote 2 costs 25.000 here in Russia - I can buy a Xperia Tablet Z with 16GB and 4G for that money lol)
[Off-topic] eyahl:
Htc One has 4,7“ too

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Does it? I was sure it had 5.0"
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
according to htc it does... ;)

http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-one/
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Hm, looks bigger on the pics
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
looks even bigger on the television, it's currently in endless adverts here in the UK, as is the s4 :D
[Off-topic] eyahl:
It's pretty similar to n4 size. A bit taller..

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Oh god, don't even remind me about those ads with these phones, I'm so tired of hearing "Stylish! Compact! Smart! Galaxy SIV, Life Companion" and that crappy pop during One's advert
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Hi guys... long time no see...

I'm holding out for the Note 3 monster... very comfortable with the s3's 4.85 inch screen, so i think i'm ready to challenge my pockets with a mutated, monstrous device like the upcoming Note 3... S4 did't feel like much of an upgrade over the s3.

Anybody knows what's up with BBM for android? Internet buzz seems to have died down...
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
You can cache map area in Google maps. It will then use data only for getting routes

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
How about Xperia Z Ultra?

It almost looks like a 7" tablet, but it's actually a 6.4" phablet. Sony should've added those 0.6" and make a good tablet
[Off-topic] shrome99:
Theoretically, the Note 3 should be a decent upgrade over the GS3, but if Samsung releases two major variants like they did with the S4 (Exynos and Qallcomm) I would stay away.

BBM was rumored to release on June 26th which has long passed, so I don't think we have any reliable information at all.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
BBM?
[Off-topic] :
Blackberry messenger :)
[Off-topic] hisname:
lol, someone even released a fake blackberry messenger app recently.
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Was removed some hours after being released. Lol.
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
But ended up with tens of thousands of downloads before being pulled...!
[Off-topic] NVardan:
I hope people will actively use it both on iOS and Android. I need something to replace whatsapp when the 1 year free period is over. Most of my friends use iOS devices, so they don't have Google accounts to use Hangouts.
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
The money from my mobile contract that whatsapp saves me, each picture message was previously ridiculously 25p now with whatsapp zero, I've paid for the first few years of 69p a dozen times over.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Does any of the foreign providers offer W-Fi along with the contract for the home internet connection?
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Here in Germany, we do have that. Also had, when I lived in Armenia.

As a teenager, I don't have a credit card, to pay the 0.89€ per year, otherwise, I would be glad to pay for WhatsApp. That's why I'm looking for a free messenger also used by my friends.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Some of the local providers also offer that. Costs 9$ a month. But O.M.G., it's SO bad - the connection is poor, the signal strength is weak, the speed is awful, the coverage, while being across the whole city, is rather unpleasing. My devices can rarely find the network, and drop the connection often.

And that's even when Beeline offers an open network and a WPA-enabled network. Both suffer from the same things.
[Off-topic] :
Mum and dad don't allow you to use their card for play store?

Anyways, i have free unlimited for life luckily :)
[Off-topic] NVardan:
In Armenia, we also had Beeline but we had chosen another provider, with much better overall internet and Wi-Fi( I think it was 24 mbps with very good signal everywhere at home). It costed abut 40€ along with TV. Here in Germany, we have 100mbps internet, along with TV and Wi-Fi, 4 SIM cards with internet flat rate and home telephone flat rate. It costs 70€ I think. Wi-Fi signal is good, and there are about 8 devices connected to Wi-Fi(2 smartphones, TV, 2 PCs, printer, Hi-Fi system, Kindle).

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I haven't asked them, and I don't want to ask them, when there are other solutions.

How did you get the free unlimited for life?
[Off-topic] :
Idk to be honest. But I have been using Whatsapp for a really long time now, so it might be because I was an early adopter. (2.5 - 3 years ago?)
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
you could have spoken up and told me about it ;) ...I've wasted a small fortune sending bloody pictures across the mobile network in mms over the last couple of year's before I found it.
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Well, one of the tricks to getting whatsapp for life is to pop in your sim into a friend's iPhone, then purchase whatsapp from app store (any dolt with an iPhone is bound to have a credit card... They can't use the app store otherwise), register your number and activate whatsapp on the iPhone. Now pay your friend with the iPhone for the purchase in cash, take out your sim and pop it back into your android phone. Once that is done, you have whatsapp for life on that number because the license is linked to your phone number and on iOS, you only need to pay once for it unlike android.

Sent from my stapler
[Off-topic] hisname:
lol, me too. I have never paid for WhatsApp. they just kept sending me a notification telling me that they have extended the service for another few months. then again, another few more months. my iPhone friends paid a few bucks while I have never paid a single cent. tsk, tsk, tsk

_________________________________________

Do anyone uses WhatsApp Plus here? it's a damn cool mod for WhatsApp. you will love it.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Nobody uses WhatsApp in Russia. (same as Facebook, and Google+, and Google Hangouts/Talk/Voice, and the likely)

We either have tariffs with, like, 900 SMSs a month, or everybody just goes messaging through iMessage. Which I honestly think should be on Android also.
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Here in Germany, WhatsApp is probably the most used communications service between teens. At the second place comes probably snapchat with girl's sharing with each other their duck-face photos. In Armenia, I don't think WhatsApp is used as much as here in Europe. In my first year, I only have about 500 messages but I think my friends send 500 messages per day, so that tarriff with 900 SMSs per month, won't be ok for them.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Wait, don't they have instagram for that stuff?
[Off-topic] hisname:
since last year....:D. I think I am over texting, lol

edit: what???!! I just realised that the DS sold in India has NFC enabled??
[Off-topic] NVardan:
What?! Well that escalated quickly!
[Off-topic] zeus.lny:
Thats not true...... Rumors I guess... I have it and it doesn't have NFC

Sent from my Desire S
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Neither does mine...
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Mine also doesn't have one. Bought in Germany brand new from the store. But that's kinda interesting. How did he get NFC?
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Yes, but if they want to share the photos instantly and with one particular friend, snapchat is there, and I think it's a new trend here. I live in Germany for one year now, and stated to notice that about a week or two ago.
[Off-topic] hisname:
here is the proof

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1360982

look at what [MENTION=4189659]Tectas[/MENTION] said http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21397521
[Off-topic] NVardan:
So there are more than one Generations of our device?

And reading other posts, some wrote, that batteries or SIMs could also be NFC enable, which is kinda strange.

I don't know what to say, but the one post that gave me cancer was this one:

If all these things are true, maybe devs could make the NFC chip in our Desire S to start to work!
[Off-topic] hisname:
well [MENTION=4113374]dan-fish[/MENTION] was well known around here.so I take him as a reputable source?i think we need some brave souls to do a tear down.sadly,i do not have the DS anymore.its with my uncle now..hmm...I might need to use my NFC tags to verify that it might contain NFC chips.but strangely,I am pretty sure that to enable NFC,the kernel must have the apropiate drivers.but I doubt so.maybe [MENTION=4149516]amidabuddha[/MENTION] could step forward and dig around the Sense kernel to contradict my finds?
[Off-topic] zeus.lny:
Well if that's the case then someone would have raised that in some forums... Or developers had known it...

Sent from my Desire S
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Not sure. I don't think people would have looked for a spec that isn't written on official spec sheet for a phone.

A special thanks goes to [MENTION=4729636]hisname[/MENTION] for his finding!

I hope devs like [MENTION=4149516]amidabuddha[/MENTION] may try to make NFC work!
[Off-topic] hisname:
lol, welcome. actually in fact I was searching what to do with my NFC tags and some how I managed to stumble across this..
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Just did a little research.

First of all, I found, that Nexus S already had NFC chip, that means, that Gingerbread supported NFC when it came out. Our Desire S was also running Gingerbread when it was announced, so in theory, our phone could have NFC chip.

At second:

In August 2011, in China, HTC launched an Incredible S which also had NFC built in.

The Source.

And, if I remember well, the original Incredible S and Desire S were announced on the same day in February 2011. So maybe, in February, NFC chips were already included in both Incredible S and Desire S, but HTC needed to optimize the software so they didn't publish that there is a NFC chip in both these phones.

The only question I couldn't answer is: Why HTC didn't make NFC available for global Incredible S and Desire S with a software update after figuring out how to make NFC work on the Chinese Incredible S.

These are just guesses by me, I'm not 100% sure about them. Also interested to hear other's opinions.
[Off-topic] hisname:
NFC is already inside AOSP source code in Gingerbread. Desire S and Incredible S were both announced at the Mobile World Conference. My mum has a Incredible S,I think I may need to play with it later. :D my guess is we need Flinny to port it as I doubt we have NFC drivers in kernel source HTC released.
[Off-topic] amidabuddha:
Thank you very much for your trust in my capabilities. I really do not want to dissapoint you, but after a quick glance over htcdev.com I saw that there is no difference between the source released for India and the other regions, except EU which is actually bigger. Also my DS is from the first generation so I am pretty sure it does not have the required chip to test any code on it. Maybe the ICS source has the NFC parts included like it was for the OTG but I am not sure what to search for. Anyone can take a look through the source in my github I will assist with compiling if something comes up.

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[Off-topic] hisname:
not trying to look down on anyone here but who in the DS forum is actually capable of doing a pull request now? Only Flinny, Kylon, BlindnDumb and amidabuddha. I doubt the others know how to use github. someone found a NFC lib in the lib folder. so I suppose it's in Gingerbread code?
[Off-topic] NVardan:
After the work you've done for our device, you won't disappoint anybody with Desire S.

And a quick question:

How could we know, whether our device is first or second generation Desire S?

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We need to find out whether it was 2.3.3 Gingerbread or 2.3.5 Gingerbread and after finding it out, I'll try to find the stock HTC kernels for that versions and will try to take a look at the boot.img. Am not a dev, so it would maybe take a little time to understand what is what in the boot.img. :angel:
[Off-topic] razi914:
dafuq man? why did i sold my desire s ,,

p.s, (not about currently going topic) is galaxy nexus a good device?? im buying one, if anyone had used it b before, plz tell about the battery life and camera!
[Off-topic] NVardan:
I don't think you will miss the, not yet confirmed NFC on Desire S, because Galaxy Nexus should also have one (which, does work).

Can't say anything about other aspects, but I think the GNexus is a good replacement for the Desire S.
[Off-topic] :
why no n4? it isnt really expensive nowadays

anyways if there is NFC in the ds it must be visible on the board right?

ive opened my ds quite some times when i did the sanding on the body, and i only saw cellular antennas. however i did not check the onboard chips. If I still had one I would be glad to go check it out for you guys
[Off-topic] hisname:
you really love ripping apart hardware huh?
[Off-topic] hisname:
oh man...I think I am gonna crap in my pants
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Meh, why use kies?

"In the end, everything is a gag."

- Charlie Chaplin (1889-1977)
[Off-topic] hisname:
A small accident happened actually:rolleyes:,I put my laptop to hibernate mode when Odin was doing its job.guess what?Odin crashed.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Mobile odin:rolleyes:

"In the end, everything is a gag."

- Charlie Chaplin (1889-1977)
[Off-topic] hisname:
I used mobile Odin to flash a modem.it didn't boot into download mode nor that blue android guy.just stuck on that boot screen.so I flashed a firmware using Odin for desktop.and this happened....
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Hello Guys!

Tried to open stock HTC kernel's boot.img. I get this on my PC. Any Ideas?
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
What do you mean "open"?
[Off-topic] amidabuddha:
This is the binary. It has to be reverse engineered to be readable but nobody does that because the source is available. Download from htcdev or see my github (ics only)

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Tried to open with both notepad and notepad++ to see what code is written in the boot.img afterwards.

So no Gingerbread? I wanted to look into the boot.img and try to understand whether there are some NFC parts or not. I think the ICS source won't have this, because in NFC Question thread someone mentioned that there was a NFC folder in libs on the device, and I think the device was on Gingerbread. Thank you anyway for your hints!
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Goodbye Mobile Data...

Next stop Dubai!
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Hate you, hate you, hate you ... :p

Seriously, have a great time out there :cool:
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Wish You a good flight!
[Off-topic] lowveld:
Thanks man, this made my day :)

Note: I'm not being demeaning, everyone starts somewhere, I just found it genuinely funny :)
[Off-topic] NVardan:
Glad that could make you laugh today. :D
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
glad I wasn't alone :D
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
The closing of ot threads on device specific forums is down to the individual moderator teams, ours as you can see got closed hence the move to general ot. You have a different team to us :(

It is easier to fight for one’s principles than to live up to them.

Alfred Adler
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
I've actually started to feel a little guilty because only teadrinker and rain seen to be the only ones left answering all the noob questions :o

It is easier to fight for one’s principles than to live up to them.

Alfred Adler
[Off-topic] bronx:
This.

Pretty much the only thing I miss on iphone.
[Off-topic] :
yeah and its also so bad to just ignore em. you got a point there

i was actually glad these posts about 'ooh what happened then?' stopped ;p

anyways, to get to a more positive atmosphere, it has finally snowed in the Netherlands, and we couldnt resist snowboarding. take a huge pile of dirt, put the snow from the whole street on it, add a one-bar rail and fun guaranteed ;p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECgiok_KgIc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

shot with a ds ofc :)
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Yeh, it's snowing here in the uk as well. Not that it's a lighter note seeing as the country can't cope with more than an inch of snow. Wish i had a board because i live on the top of a hill and i could get some wicked speed from here.

It is easier to fight for one’s principles than to live up to them.

Alfred Adler
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Then you haven't tried exdialer... ever since I found this, I've never missed the sense dialer...

it has exactly the same functionality as the sense dialer, even better, it's customizable.

Sent from my stapler.
[Off-topic] Fastrite:
+1

+1

Thanks guys.

I'm very much a AOSP/AOKP/CM person myself although sense has some nice features, dialer and linked together stuff.

Like a lotta people I'll problably want to try the feel of the device first.

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Yes, it dropped it a couple of times a few days ago but seems OK now.