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[Galaxy S II General] PATRiOT96:
I asked you based on what you see presented mate I didn't include the bad parts of this whole thing :P

But that is a really good point of view! Although, I prefer to be using a S2 instead of an iPhone, due to Android.

Regards,

PATRiOT

Why are you so mad?

Cheers
[Galaxy S II General] xman323:
Well i won't i will go for a Nexus, lesson learned
[Galaxy S II General] PATRiOT96:
This is all about the non releasing of the source right?

Just confirming.
[Galaxy S II General] Spyr0s:
You mean the hardware part? Well that's gonna be outadated anyway after a few months and the market needs a disruption, cores don't mean much anymore, people want something really innovative.
[Galaxy S II General] Kaiserbenn:
No source available for devs. Plus it's a f*****g shame to wait so long for official update of a FLAGSHIP phone.

You know S2 is dead and 4.2.1 will be the last version provided by CM for our device? This phone is one year and a half old and it's already dead. I will go for a nexus next time, that's for sure. I want a decent product follow up which is not the case on Sammie product and especially with their closed BS exynos chips.
[Galaxy S II General] PATRiOT96:
When will the next Nexus generation be out?
[Galaxy S II General] Kaiserbenn:
The bet is somewhere in 2013...
[Galaxy S II General] Hayth:
I'd like to go for it, but as these guys pointed out, I'm annoyed about the closed nature of Exynos. To be honest, my ideal phone would be a nexus device but with expandable memory. Unfortunately that's the deal breaker for me.
[Galaxy S II General] bytes2000:
I will stick to my galaxy s2 with my extended battery and custom rom running the latest android version possible. I dont feel the need for a new phone... yet...
[Galaxy S II General] lixboi:
If Galaxy S3 is released, I'll spend enough money to buy it, maybe the budget between 600 > 700$ :laugh: :laugh:

sorry for my English
[Galaxy S II General] ChavitoArg:
Xperia Z, superb device!

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[Galaxy S II General] Droid_012:
Until Samsung changes it's way of operating (not making their exynos projects open source) I won't be any Samsung phones. I rather go with Nexus devices. Keeping exynos closed source is a real setback for the majority of developers which in return limits the amount of innovation in roms.
[Galaxy S II General] gastonw:
S II is gonna get a lime pie update, remember that.

Now, about this s4 thing....is it 8.5 mm thick? it weights less than 116 gr? if not, sticking to S II.

I don't care for non-capacitive-buttons devices. How the hell would I know when to unlock my JB leak screen otherwise? :P
[Galaxy S II General] mazroui:
Actually my s2 is working pretty good for how I use it now, def need a new huge battery for the extra fun I could squeeze out of.

top comments do have a point but seriously with the active xda community, top rated forums r screaming Samsung all over.

Yea they're not so open , yea they're taking their sweet time with updates n such but seriously its a big thanks to all the devs who help n make what u have even better.

Back on track will I buy the next Sammie, depends on how much better it is... The s3 wasn't much of an improvement so I stuck with the s2 Currently running rootboxs version of jb and they're doing a great job , add to that dorimanxs kernel and u have a top of the line phone with the best options to tweak at hand for daily use/battery/performance/ no bloat what so ever.... The list goes on

Sorry for the long post I just had to get it out ^_^
[Galaxy S II General] riro1612:
Yeah wait a little time, the galaxy s3 is coming out within these few months, it's worth waiting though :)

sent with my homing pigeon
[Galaxy S II General] Dark Emotion:
I will go for it !! As soon as I win the lottery :crying:
[Galaxy S II General] Kaiserbenn:
Sammie behaviour is not a deal breaker for u? Personally I won't allow the same company to f**k me twice in the a*s.

When I buy a flagship phone I want a premium support which is not the case at all.

I do expect a lot from the moto nexus. Or Sony maybe which is friendly with devs. Otherwise I'll return on the apple side waiting for THE Nexus phone,

And I don't speak about the lack of respect to the devs community after having offered them some GS2 promising a good cooperation and making me believe a bright future and a long life for this phone, they just get BS communication and disappointment. This lack of respect to the guys without who will would have this bull**** version of android made in Samsung. They have spent a lot of times to offer for free a great android version and they deserve a big thanks for all of us running their work on our s2. And now most of them are gone, some to the nexus others to Sony side due to Samsung behavior. I can not understand how a CM user may think of buying a Sammie phoen again.
[Galaxy S II General] gucio_28:
Now a have S2. I wanted to buy S3, but imho S3 is not a big deal comparing to S2. Quad-core processor-ok, but there are'nt many apps that use 4 cores. 1 GB of ram is not enough for me as next generation of Galaxy S series. Bigger screen- big benefit, HD resolution, nice colours. S3 has better perfformance, but not much better than S2. I'll wait for S4, it's gonna be a great device, and worth to buy comparing to S2 due to big changes, especially FullHD resolution and new Mali which has really great perfomnace. Best regards!
[Galaxy S II General] sefrcoko:
My thoughts exactly. +1 :)
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
Xperia Z.
[Galaxy S II General] lutanica:
definitely not a Samsung device ever.. waiting for a nexus with 32gb+ storage... I mean how dumb can Samsung be. not helping the devs will cost them lots and lots of customers.. how many million users are there here at xda? I'm willing to bet that lots of them are aware of the situation of the sources..I think all of CM devs who are maintaining Samsung devices should officially declare that they abandon Samsung devices. that will make everybody here to think twice when they get a new device. that will teach Samsjng a lesson.
[Galaxy S II General] nitroman59:
Depend if Galaxy S4 will be on Android... For moment I keep my GS2 !

When I think the problem with motherboard of Galaxy S3... I do the best choice :)
[Galaxy S II General] Vazduh:
The specs look good. In fact there is no big surprise. A15 cip, 2 gigs of ram, 5 inch full HD screen. This is the trend line for the flagships in 2013. My biggest issue with latest phones is size. To be honest, if this trend is kept, soon I will have a comparatively smaller tablet than a phone which is odd. A mobile phone should be a handy gadget, easy to carry in a pocket. Can anyone tell if there is any phone today, other than iPhone, that beats the S2 and is still under 130 cm tall?
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
You mean something like this? :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNBP18nrRdw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S II General] Vazduh:
Yeah. Seen that. Lol

I should have express in a clearer manner. For me at least, iPhone is out of the question. Never had one and not interested, but in my search for a better phone that S2 under 130 cm, i only found the apple gadget. Sony Xperia ZL will be close as razr i/M or htc one s are now in the market. If the new galaxy S4 will be smaller in size than S3, then yes, i would buy it. If not, a new battery for S2 and JB will do the trick.
[Galaxy S II General] rwaempires:
I may update but i'll keep my galaxy s2... :p
[Galaxy S II General] loop4444:
well tbh ill have to see what other choices will be there when s4 is out..

maybe there will already be something cooler then s4 :)

but yeah, i am actually happy with my s2, and since i skipped s3, s4 seems like a fair upgrade.

only time will tell :)
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
Sammy? Never again. Got tired of touchwiz and running broken custom ROMs.
[Galaxy S II General] Dr.Molestratus:
I think 5" is more convenient than I 4"99.... Fake ass specs.
[Galaxy S II General] saurabh.2561:
I always wanted to ask this, what are the actual

Profits of exynos being open source.... i mean what are the features different from present possible customizations...
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
AOSP,Cyanogenmod, etc roms fully stable with everything working, unlimited updates(every new android version on s2)
[Galaxy S II General] LaMaaH:
i think i'll jump onto the Oppo Find5 or ZTE Nubia Z5, or Xperia Z.. Whichever finds it's way to Denmark first :)
[Galaxy S II General] ionutzvio:
I'm thinking about upgrading to s4 but a saw the new snapdragon processors coming this year. So for the moment i'm happy with my s2.i will wait for six months to see what's coming
[Galaxy S II General] Warhero141:
Your Galaxy S2 is 4.27" and not the more 'convenient' 4.3"
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
And Samsung reveals octa core processor, if they don't feature it in gs4. Xperia Z is my clear choice.
[Galaxy S II General] busterdev:
Xperia zl over the z for me.

-Dedicated camera button

-Rubberized back

-Smaller but with better battery

Not going to wait for the s4 as I have a strong feeling it will be illitarive of the gs3. The whole nature pebble shape that is @_@
[Galaxy S II General] atulalvenkar:
Exynos 5250 is open sourced in AOSP as its used in Nexus 10. However don't know what state Exynos 5450 will be.

Unless Samsung meets same level of open source as TI, Qualcomm I won't be buying a Samsung device again.

They promised source code by end of 2012. Till now nothing has materialized. I went ahead and bought a N4 for now.

From Nexus 4
[Galaxy S II General] danirava:
Until now i prefer the Xperia Z...
[Galaxy S II General] :
Exynos 5 (in nexus 10) is actually more open than S4 Krait at this point. A lot of devs complain over Qualcomm now. And Ti is unfortunately no longer active within mobile bransh. I wouldn't be so pessimistic about the future. Especially that we're talking about possibly the best performer on the smartphone market. Well we'll see.
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Octa core exynos will not be ready for production till S4 arrives so it will be quad core exynos in S4 and octa core in 2013 end or 2014 Q1.
[Galaxy S II General] jcasares:
There are two things I don't like about it: Touchwiz and AMOLED.

Not having full sources for development of alternative ROMs is a big drawback as I don't like OEM customizations like Blur, Sense, Tourchwiz and resort to ROMs like CyanogenMod to get the nicer stock experience. If Google made better stock Android phones and they were available at my Country I wouldn't even consider branded devices, but lack of replaceable or long lasting battery and MicroSD is a big issue for me. Having the Glaxy SII that I currently own showing signs of screen wearing out made me look for information about such panels and I think this will be my last AMOLED phone.
[Galaxy S II General] Dr.Molestratus:
Where did my micro meters go.
[Galaxy S II General] killar_aka_arabu:
I love my galaxy s2!!!
[Galaxy S II General] HellRa1SeR:
I personally feel that the Samsung devices do have some nifty tweaks and features up their sleeves but thats not making me buy one again.. I have been an htc/moto fan due to their awesome style and quality phones and so I'll probably wait it out for the next moto/htc Nexus :D
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Next Nexus? The present Nexus device from LG has "****ty" build quality and unimpressive h/w. Only advantage is stock Android and fast updates so I'll do proper research and see which OEM gives a dev friendly phone else will go with Nexus in 2013

Just like rest , I'm tired of Exynos BS and waiting game ;)
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
If they make super awesome nexus, no one will buy anything else.
[Galaxy S II General] r4ttyuk:
What ever phone I buy next, I'll be sure to do much more research.

The broken video recording (frame stutter) has left me annoyed with Samsung, they won't get my money next time round.

I'll get whatever has easy to access swappable batteries, external storage, open hardware and which ever has a strong dev community.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
True that!!

Nexus devices have always been a reference device for Android release and it's OEM's which improve on it(software and hardware)

This!!

Every phone has flaws or few cons but Samsung been so reluctant to release sources for Exynos but Now I'll be thinking twice before I throw my money at Samsung.

Galaxy S2 I9100 can have Android updates at least for next 2yrs but I doubt Samsung has any intentions to support it as they want to sell their latest h/w

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] :
I know that there are regions with limited release but for example I decided to switch from S2 to Galaxy Nexus couple of months ago. It was actually already sold out in Sweden (only few carriers still offered it for ridiculously high prices) so I ordered it from Germany via ebay - I had to wait just 5 days for delivery. It's not a big problem in XXI century.
[Galaxy S II General] xdaillum:
Excuse my noobness - I don't quite get the impact of Samsung using Exynos chipsets.

I just checked out specs for the S2, S3 and Note 2 and all use Exynos. So if the S4 uses a newer, better Exynos, then how does that affect the development of custom ROMs?

From what I can see, the custom ROM development of the S2, S3 and Note 2 have all been getting along very very well. How will S4 development be hindered if it were to also use an Exynos chipset?

The only thing I can gather is that the Exynos chipset is not as "open" and as a result, even though custom ROM development has been good, there are more bugs than there should be because of the closed nature of the chipset. So developers are required to work harder than they would have to with a more open chipset.

All in all, if this is really the case, I would suppose there has to be a reason for Samsung to choose an Exynos over a more open chipset. A post a few pages earlier talked about how if Samsung continue to use exynos, many XDA people will boycott Samsung. I'm not sure if you guys realise (and I have no hard evidence) but I'm fairly certain there are many more Samsung users out there who know nothing about rooting than there are users of Samsung phones on XDA forums. i.e. even if us XDA users boycott Samsung, it will hardly affect their sales because we are only a small minute proportion of everyone who buys Samsungs.

I am tempted to upgrade to the S4 from the S2, but I definitely want to know more about it before making any decisions.
[Galaxy S II General] tsowen:
Thread has been cleaned, leave the flame war out of it and stay on topic. Any problems feel free to PM me.

Thanks
[Galaxy S II General] PATRiOT96:
Thanks for the cleaning up tsowen, also thanks for your replies.

Keep on discussing !
[Galaxy S II General] jcasares:
I was looking into alternatives that are not Nexus but have open approach to developers lately. The Xperia T and Z seem to be like that but I still have issues, they are Sony, a company I don't trust much, they are recent launches with not much development yet and I don't like the design. For example, they put the volume control in the lower part of the right side. Quite inconvenient.

In any case it seems there is no easy replacement for the S2 with good AOSP support.

Price and control. They are building it.
[Galaxy S II General] trveller72:
Don't think I will buy a Samsung ever.

I am waiting for a HTC Nexus
[Galaxy S II General] tariq2kn:
Samsung released s2 plus with 4.1.2, how cruel? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
[Galaxy S II General] Lodorenos:
At this point I am unsure. I'd like to upgrade to the S4 as my 2 year contract with Vodafone end this summer, but I might go for an iPhone 5S/6 and keep my S2 for development purposes. 5" is a bit too large to comfortably slide in and out of my pocket dozens of times a day.
[Galaxy S II General] jowett69:
5" is not too big and anyway once you been using a big screen you find that s2 is still bit small.
[Galaxy S II General] jcasares:
I believe that 5 while being a little big still can be handled if it has no extra border and nice curves.

I would certainly like the added screen. :P
[Galaxy S II General] Daft*mau5:
If they give it to me for free I'll sell it and buy another phone - preferably a nexus -

Never in my life will I ever buy a samsung phone again (unless they drastically change their strategy towards the community and consumers)

So for me it's either one of these:

1.a nexus

2.asus

3.Sony (loving that slick xperia z)

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] terrance martin:
I would if it had more than 2gb of ram
[Galaxy S II General] Unexist6969:
I'll wait for the S4 plus which gets updated earlier than the S4 =p
[Galaxy S II General] PATRiOT96:
That's actually funny, samsung is all about selling now..
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
After all they are a h/w company :rolleyes:

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] alen1901:
I would say next nexus. From rumors it will be Motorola device. Also, im thinking Google wont release 5" screen. Maybe they keep it at 4.8 max?

Sent from SpeedMachine i9100
[Galaxy S II General] onbacardi:
You actually need more than 2gb of ram :0
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Marketing makes people think 2GB, Quad core is outdated and slow.
[Galaxy S II General] MaxAndroided:
S4 release in June ?! :eek::confused:

I found this http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/01/10/galaxy-s4-cases-planned-for-june-launch/

I think I will skip S3 and wait vor S4 :eek:

Some websides suppose the S4 comes with exynos5 :fingers-crossed:

I hope could be true :)
[Galaxy S II General] Kaiserbenn:
Ha ha ha exynos 5 what a joke... Do the people really want to go with a no future phone?
[Galaxy S II General] iamflamez:
I have 2 s3's, a note, an s2, and note 10.1 in my house now.

I contacted samsung about releasing sources to the devs and they lied to me directly, now i am looking to support another company.

I think the sony's look nice they are open source, removable batteries, expandable storage and even some are waterproof.

I think I will upgrade but not to samsung, at the moment im thinking sony xperia
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I was watching few videos of Xperia Z from Sony and damn that looks seriously amazing with awesome build quality.

Samsung phones look plain, boring and they need to hire some designers and look at competitors. I was a loyal Samsung user but time to give another brand a try.

Samsung is good at h/w and their flagships beat others in benchmarks and real world performance but right now it doesn't serve any purpose if s/w ain't optimized. They just don't want to Open up Exynos so it's better to switch.
[Galaxy S II General] DummyPLUG:
Actually I understand why it need carrier approve. Back in S1 the newly release phone is not compatible with one of the carrier in here, it takes samsung a few weeks and release an hotfix firmware, user need to go to the service center to get the update, the proper firmware arrive kies months later.
[Galaxy S II General] tariq2kn:
4.1.2 released for Note. Still no update for S2.
[Galaxy S II General] b5d:
i think it's the time to change my S2 ,,, i didn't like the S3, because i think there is just few changes that doesn't worth to buy to it , so if the S4 come with new things . i will buy it for sure
[Galaxy S II General] bkjugg:
I will update from S2 to Nexus 4 or Galaxy S4 for sure. Samsung have awesome hardware and features, Nexus 4 - cool updates and custom firmwares. Hard choice :)
[Galaxy S II General] Aincalandorn:
I probably won't go to the s4. I don't want to wait almost a year for updates.

I'll be researching quad-core phones with lte and nfc that have at least 32 gigs of space. If the HTC one x/x+ was quad, I'd be set.
[Galaxy S II General] cloneme:
I love the S4's specs but the screen is getting a bit too big for me, I like something that will fit in my pocket, S3 size is the limit.
[Galaxy S II General] Kaiserbenn:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/ZEKu52oo8cA

F**k you Samsung. Definitively I'll never buy a Sammie phone again. Thanks to all the devs working on S2 with all of these Samsung BS. Respect guys.
[Galaxy S II General] eraser0:
I will never ever buy a sam mobile again!!

learn from apple sammy if you wanna compete iphone 3gs updated to ios6

and our s2 still waiting! am not a money machine!!
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
I know a S3 dev and he wasn't as against Samsung as I was. Today he said He's done with non nexus devices, he's spending his day and night fixing stupid errors and his team members are innovating, he's not doing real development. Everyone's angry at Samsung, everyone.
[Galaxy S II General] Qwerty123 \m/:
Xperia Z .

All i have to say ^
[Galaxy S II General] leech4:
In my opinion, the success of Samsung phones came across a wave of Hardware innovations, but, those innovations are almost caught by other companies, the difference between both will be in software and, regarding Sammy's "strategy", they are months (years ?) late than others.

Adding to this, they seem to simply ignore customers complaints about H/W issues and even S/W updates. (See SGS II camera lagging while recording at full HD for example)

I never had good opinion regarding Sam's phones as they used to make Bull***t phones before the Galaxy line which gave customers illusion that they have changed their way to be.

My SGS 2 will be the last samsung phone I buy, I will surely look elsewhere. Whatever they change, it's too late for me
[Galaxy S II General] GalaxyGusta:
depends on how well samsung is going to develop touchwiz and of course the specs :D

as of now i really like touchwiz UI *ONLY* on jelly bean but im always looking for a new thing :)
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
Galaxy S4 leaks will prohibit me from buying Xperia Z, I was so fking sure about it.

http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=6189523

Nexus 4 has a lot of issues, literally a lot.
[Galaxy S II General] Unexist6969:
I only buy it if it has the emmc cap erase bug, it's a must have for me:screwy:
[Galaxy S II General] AayushDhuria:
Lool, and asshats won't even fix it. Hell, entropy even gave em fix.
[Galaxy S II General] Kaiserbenn:
Sexy http://www.generation-nt.com/zoom-1349942,1682102-htc-m7.html

If it is dev friendly, i think it could be mine.
[Galaxy S II General] Unexist6969:
Xperia V seems like the perfect S2,

340ppi

duel core krait 1.5gh

4.3inch

sony design

13mpx

sd card + removeable battery

Water resistance
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Any upgrade has to be a true one and still S2 beats this phone in screen, internal storage.

The battery is just 100 mAh bigger compared to the S2 which is disappointing. Also it has it has Adreno 225 which isn't so impressive
[Galaxy S II General] merlin21:
If the phone has no rounded ends like the s3 than I would purchase it. In a year after release :) - money ...

I'm lucky with Samsung , expect the support for open source.
[Galaxy S II General] Thisnameisepic:
I won't neither. I'll most probably be buying the next Nexus.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] lasic.2000:
Odp: [Discussion] How MANY of you will update? :P

Whhhaaaat?! Cyanogenmod 10.1 is last CM for S2?!

Phone: Samsung Galaxy S II

Rom: Cyanogenmod 10.1

Kernel: Dorimanx

Mods: Camera by Jobnik

Battery: Stock 1650

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[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
It's a speculation but will most likely happen. Exynos devices are PITA for developers and hence why development may stop.

Even though h/w may be capable, I'm sure lot of things would change in next android release which would break a lot of things and S2 may not see anything more than CM10.1.