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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woblebox:
I see you have given this a lot of though and you make some good points. I agree with most of it but am not sure about making a whole new tablet for the the port. It would not only be expensive to make but the problem is Will it be convenient? We need something portable, light weight, and reliable so carrying around a tablet that you can disassemble and replace parts isn't going to be very small. I think hardware is already there isn't it? The tegra k1 is more than powerful enough to run every ps2 game. What I think needs to happen is get enough supporters so that Sony might consider the idea of porting ps2 to android and maybe even iOS. We all know that money speaks for it self and if people are willing to pay then Sony will offer.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scfvx:
yeah !! Twisted Metal , a classic :good:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ParagonSaysHi:
I know this post was back like 2 years ago, but just for the sake of information for others, you can grab San Andreas from the Play Store now.

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Instead of creating an Emulator, I think it's easier to just port the games over. Controls will work a lot better too.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andre0005:
Yeah but i still feel that not too many games would be playable even with adjusted controls.

The control-options are just too limited on a smartphone.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woblebox:
What could also work is instead of having the ps2 on Android the developers of the ps2 games could port their games over but this has issues as mentioned previously there are to many controls and buttons. There are controllers the can be connect to android devices and that would definitely work but I don't think too many people are going to spend that extra 20$ to buy a controller.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheKindleMCPEGuy:
One of the SNES emulators on WP has a feature on settings where you can change the layout of the controller in landscape mode.

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ParagonSaysHi:
Your point is valid. I think most bigger game companies, will make stuff for the upcoming AndroidTV, since Google is not only taking and replacing the media PC but is trying to create a new open gaming platform to which tons of new games and old classic titles (like GTA San Andreas) can be ported over to work on a universal control system. The new controller will solve lots of things, since people would want their games to be played on AndroidTV's.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
I did some research on cost not counting the casing it would cost about 400 to build case could be made for sub 30 total say 430 a unit. I could build and sell for 600 for a very high end tablet make a nice profit and under cut most other tablets that would come close to it by a good 100 to 150. Also this would not be just for emulated games but any thing you would want it for. Now that is the cost for buying one part of each needed for the build. Buy in value the cost of each goes down. On both my cost and buyers cost. I would bet to as low a 400 or 500 retail. Remember I'm not going for stupid thin compact but rugged and repairable. I bet I could get a 9 or Even 10 on 8fixit heh.

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Hmm that is a idea. As each game uses the ps2 emotion engine it should be possible to make a porting SDK or the like. Other wise each game has to be ported separately.meaning some one has to be interested in a ff7 dirge of Cerberus other wise it won,t get ported by any one but some one who wants to play it on android.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
Well like some one else said a post or 2 back. As a community we should start working on it now. Even if no game can actually be played. So long as it does load up the game and does accept input it would be a few steps along by the time hardware does catch up. Meaning it can be gotten out much faster at that point. As most of the work would already be done. I want to wait to beging assembling my own prototype tablet till tegra 2 hits. It may have enough power to play ps2 or even better. Until it is out and in the hand of developers we just won't know what it is really able to do. We also do not know who is working on what behind the scenes that may be even more powerful than the tegra cpus.

There is allot of competition out there and lots of secrets to be kept. We need to get ready to roll on things ahead of time even if it may not pan out with tegra etc there's no reason to not start working on stuff now and be ready. Example ps2 emulators will not play games on a amd athlon 64 single core at all. games load and do accept input but fps is so low as to be like 1 fps a second. If a ps2 emu would do that on android now with the best hardware out then it is just a matter of waiting for hardware to catch up. As it is now other than scammers trying to get peoples money or infect their comps no one is working on a ps2 emulator. Or a port. I think a ps2 port is better honestly. But that is just me a non programmer. What i do know is from a 3d perspective allot of current android based tablet hardware is more than capable of rendering any ps2 games models. I have thrown some way higher res stuff at my tablet using vrml programs models created in 3ds max with 20K plus polys and it was silky smooth moving around the scene. I doubt any single scene rendered in ps2 is more than 25 to 30k polys. I sort of doubt it is even that high. Finale fantasy spirits with in used models for the characters that were just this side of 100k polys if i recall. That is hyper realism in 3d. Any thing over 30k for a single model is just insane.

So the hardware is capable of rendering the models with out doubt. The problem is actually using them as intended in the game intended. which is why i was talking about a new game engine that loads ps2 games. But is not really based on ps2 but is new and custom made for android.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NobleDroid:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dakunclear:
What's deleted
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
His post :p

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Actually between touch screen and blue tooth and even possibly using nfc there are more options not less when it comes to controls. For my own tablet design ideas i was actually thinking of taking advantage of hard mount via usb and on screen touch. By hard mount i mean something that can be attached or detached to the sides. I really need to sit down one day and make a mock up of the entire tablet in max.

Basic idea is to use a ps2/3 style controller split in half start 4 main buttons and trigger buttons on one side dpad other trigger buttons on other as well as a analog stick on each. Then some programmable touch keys on the bottom of the screen as well as quick save state and load state

Yeh with controller attached the unit would be pretty bulky. But if i included a custom hard shell case for the tablet for storage etc it would come down to who cares about over all assembled size. Why sacrifice comfort and ease of use just to make it compact.

With the controller off the unit you would have a nice 10.5 to 12 inch display tablet that was say half inch thick along the back/top and 1/4 give or take along the front.bottom. Extra thickness along the one edge is do to the fact i plan to have all the connectors along that edge including external usbs maybe even esata power jack etc. Also the stereo speakers would be mounted there as well aiming forward and "down" at say a 45 deg angle. So all the bulky stuff would be along that edge. Now this would make the tablet sit higher along that edge making using it while it was laying on a table easier. So my thinking why not go one step more and add keyboard style flip out stands that would give you say 4 inches more height giving you a nice viewing angle. My kick stand like standoff wold be hinged along the sides on a metal hinge.

Again this is all just me thinking and changes will happen. And in the end it may never happen. It just depends on if i can get and how much funding i can get from local businesses etc. Now there are some who are actually interested around here already. So i could maybe get a prototype unit built pretty quick.

What shocked me is that i could self build the tablet for around 400 for every thing around the snap dragon 801 today and turn a nice profit at even 550 to 600. Now that is if i bought only enough parts to build one at a time. But i would be going with like parts to build 10 at one time dropping the price per unit. So maybe a sub $500 rugged user repairable tablet. I think that would sell don't you?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CRISRUCKI:
ps3

and for ps3?to much...?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dakunclear:
10 years out before that happens
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
I doubt it will be that long even for ps4
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dakunclear:
Ps4 yes but it's all due to architecture right that's why I said 10 years for the ps3
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
If im reading correctly yo believe it would be sooner for ps4? If so why? I haven't read up on the ps4 as i have no interest in the console at this point.All i follow with it and the xbox one is repair related stuff for the hardware.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dakunclear:
The ps4's architecture is very similar to a pc that's why
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
ahh ok i sort of thought that might be the case. So getting a ps4 android emu should be only reliant on speed etc Ill have to do a little reading on it.

If i recall it is not backwards compat though is it? Which sucks as if it was it might be possible to make a emulator that runs ps2 etc games as well as ps4.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CRISRUCKI:
2 or 3 years at most
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
If it is that close to a PC then I would say sub 1 year with release of tegra 2. It might be all but doable today with the tetra and hmm lowering the screen resolution? As well as other quality settings? Say fsaa mipmap detail and the like.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbtthief:
I hope so :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed: but i'm afraid we need to wait for the coming of ps5 before we think about ps4 emulator. Sony won't let it go that easy:rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CRISRUCKI:
well, a good excuse to but a ps4 and tne the ps5
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexmforero:
I Hope not no wait so looooong.

Regards
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbdc:
So does that mean the Vita might get an Android emulator sooner rather than later too? As it is just a custom ARM A9 isn't it?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
Isn't the vita basically just a psp? There is already a great psp emu ppsspp avail.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prichm1992:
Absolutely NOT. lol The PSP had a 333 or 666mhz CPU (1 core) and 32 or 64mb ram depending on your model. The vita has CPU at around 1.5ghz (4 cores) and 512mb ram, with a dedicated GPU.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puLse2D:
without controller is it playable?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NickyDroid:
awesome idea
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arman167:
I saw this post and died, just last year we all spoke about this and what happened? we have San Andreas on our phones now! LMFAO :laugh:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nightcervant:
As time the terminals have made huge strides, they are not able to emulate a PS2. Instead able to emulate a PSX discreetly ... Maybe in a few years we will also emulate the PS2 who knows :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
I was actually talking game wise not spec wise. I know it had higher specs. But as per games i thought it was basically all psp games.

In which case there's no real point in making a emu for the vita as it is covered with ppsspp and the like already.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puLse2D:
works some PS1 games on this emu?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
If you mean ppsspp then some are suppose to work from what i read but not seen one that does. But why bother get epsxe and play any ps1 game you want.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kjrider:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woblebox:
Are you high?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fra392:
Can someone link me ps2 emulator link please?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woblebox:
Your joking right?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Menelkir:
Nah the games on vita are far superior (I have psp and psvita), just compare hi-end games on psp (I think, the most advanced game for psp is Final Fantasy Type 0), and FF0 isnt even near a midrange psvita game (of course, lets be fair, dont compare a high end psp game with a indie vita game :P).

With a few games like Uncharted or Gravity Rush, you can feel how Vita is superior to PSP in every single way. Unfortunatelly, Vita development is quite slow compared to what happened to PSP on his time.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzy1996:
You are kidding because the Play Station 2 Emulaotr for PC is not perfect right now .If you want to try to get the best graphic on PC you must have a gaming computer like ASUS CG8630.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidherron:
The vita has more to it in game play the world's are bigger, with less loading to pass from on area to the next like on psp. and we will probably never see ps2 emulation on today's phones we can barley get psp.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
Little did you know that android already has gaming with hardware requirements that of a PS2.5. Games like Horn and Republique are proof that android has surpassed PS2 specs. Its just emulation takes a different route and working mechanism all together but that doesn't rule it out. "barely get PSP"!?? Which cell are you using? Because nowadays the devices can run almost any PSP game on android. Take Final Fantasy 7 - Crisis Core for starters. Please think before you speak and back it up with examples if you want to prove your point.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
Yeh even on my kindle fire hd 8.9 i can play final fantasy type o disidia and crisis core. CC plays quite nicely. On my second play trhough i cheated the crap out of every thing. In the death scene where you get swarmed by soldiers i had so many of them dead around my char before i turned the cheat off it was getting mega laggy. How ever it was still playable. With disidia and type 0 i have to use the small screen mode and every thing way way low on settings to get it to run playable. But damn that game is insane with all the action going on at once. Over all the char renderings is not as high per char as crisis core. But you only have 1 playable char in CC vs multiple in type 0. So the over all poly count is way higher.

But if my old kindle with cyangogenmod 11 on it can run it newer hardware would have zero problem with any of the games as for the vita i assume it would do fine on newer hardware as well. PS2 i agree i think every one is going about the idea in the wrong way. Trying to emulate the ps2 hardware creates allot of un needed overhead. Granted it makes getting ps2 games on other systems easier as you just load the bios and go. Where as the other approach is to write a entirely new game engine that will load run and play ps2 games. How ever the new engine would be programmed from the ground up to run on android hardware.That is what sony did with their bios which is the software for the hardware. It was made to run on that hardware with that configuration. There is zero reason why they could not have made a engine that would load all ps2 games on pc. In other words instead of having a ps2 you would have a sony ps2 program for pcs that would load the games that have no engine of their own in to the program that is the engine. Basically with all these crappy little flash games that is what is being done. The game art files interface files etc all are loaded by the engine in the case of flash that would be flash player.

So a ps2 emulator that is not emulating hardware but is instead a engine would be more of a ps2 player than a ps2 emulator.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
Very nicely written and i'm very glad to have you here.

I agree. Just because the emulation of PS2 is buggy on android does not mean that the android device is inferior in hardware and resources. Its about many many other factors.

Though its off the topic but the death scene that you've mentioned is one of the best stories for me in the gaming history and i would really like to know the cheat that you were talking about.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
I forget now. It basically gives maxes out your hp and gives you unlimited health. Basically you just can not die. Meaning that even the swarm can not kill you how ever you can not end the game with it running.

If i have time this week ill put the rom back on and find the cheat again. Hell ive been playing ps1 lately and can not even remember off hand how to use the ppsspp cheat system lol wont take me but seconds to refind it though once i got time to set it all back up.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
Nice..

That would be very generous of you to do that for me, thanks mate. It really makes me want to go back and re-live the beautiful adventure in Final Fantasy's world. BTW what PS1 games have you been playing lately? Thanks to the next gen android specs, i can play almost all the PS1 games on my HOX+.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
Well replayed ff7 right after crisis core then ff9 and trying to get ff8 to work again with out having to restart. Probably going to have to use a save editor on it to get past the missile launch sabotage mission. On the screen is says uploading with the spinning icon soon as it completes and goes to cut to the cut scene it crashes espxe. But every game i play on ps1 is rpg and nothing else. I located a copy of ff7 dirge of Cerberus. Going to buy it next week i think.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daddymemoru:
San Andreas on android

Its funny cuz you dont even need an emulator anymore. XD
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
Haha! True..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiberianLeopard:
I was able to use the bluetooth with my laptop... Well, maybe that's because I'm an administrator.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Myrmeko:
yeah... so...

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
You can create an .apk out of any program. It's possible either by using Titanium Backup or you need to root your phone so that you can access the system folder where all the installed apps are present in the form of an .apk package which can be transferred to another phone and installed there.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Myrmeko:
hello :) thanks.

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
You cannot play PS2 games on an android device, though i believe that it might be possible in the future. There is no emulator at the moment.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martipello86:
ps2 emu

You would download the files from git hub and import them into your ide whether android studio eclipse whatever from there you can try to compile if it works great youll be able to see what works and what doesnt if anything at all, the hardware is finally there with some of todays smartphones and 64 bit chips etc but on my laptop emulating ps2 makes it so hot it feels like it may scald me, i dare say youll have a similar issue with a phone but only one way to find out
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
PS2 Emulation seems to be very possible on android in the near future because dreamcast and gamecube has already been made possible.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mckimiaklopa:
Umm guys,this other guys has been developing a ps2 emulator for android since september

https://github.com/jpd002/Play-/issues/7

it is not a port of pcsx2 but instead a port of a ps2 emulator that he made by himself
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
Sorry if i have trouble believing you here. But from what every one of the developers here say it really just is not possible. The hardware just is not up to snuff.

From the posts there i see them mentioning the future nvidia chips which is what people say here as well. I hope there are people working on it now so when android can run it they have a jup on things.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mckimiaklopa:
I hear ya.Just for clarity,the guy has been working on his ps2 emulator for two years now and he is still working on it(along with the android port)

The code is posted in github https://github.com/jpd002/Play-/commits/master publicly and anyone can compile thier own build(I think)

It will take a long time before it is finished but at least there is proof that it is being worked on.And the post of the devs are from last year and since than,there are some wii games and nintendo gamecube games running fullspeed on android
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
I'm very certain about the fact that we will soon see a PS2 Emulator for Android coming out soon. When Dreamcast and Gamecube has been possible, then how can PS2 be left behind with continously growing technology? Waiting patiently..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drzfr3shboialex:
Can anyone recommend a good GameCube emulator to me? I'm an Xperia Z3 owner.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asim.sidz:
Dolphin Emulator for Android. Google it up or search it on Play Store.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drzfr3shboialex:
Thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luther349:
with the x1 chip coming it has more then enough cpu power to emulate a ps2.. maybe the guys at pcsx2 will do something with it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aakanayev:
Current gen phones can't run GameCube emulator at full speed yet.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nanaki-seto:
My old kindle runs it playable with some system tweaking. It is loads older than the current generation of phones. I haven't tried on say a note 4 or s5 yet though. Like has been said again and again even though every single phone currently out has more raw mhz and many with more ram than a ps2 it is the architecture that is killing it. I have said screw emulating the hardware create a program to replace the emotion engine. Sony's emotion engine is part hardware but mostly software wrote to take advantage of the hardware. Now if you replace the emotion engine with something else that does all it does but is made to work with android hardware. Android and current hardware is more than powerful enough to render in real time as many polys at the same fps as a ps2.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aakanayev:
Well let's cross fingers then and wait. I'd love to play ffx again.