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[RAZR HD Android Development] :
Awesome! Tnx

Enviado desde mi XT925 usando Tapatalk 4 Beta
[RAZR HD Android Development] kabaldan:
The bluetooth audio issue (freeze>watchdog bite>reboot) should be gone by the next nightly.

Let me know how the kernel update works for you.

There's quite a lot of changes, so - as always, 'something' could have become broken...
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
who's build will it be in?
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Well it's not in tonight's dhacker build. I got a reboot stuck on logo boot too shortly after I flashed it.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Megaroad:
10.1 is still not stable on this device, so while I'm sure 10.2 is an interesting project and you obviously have a right to work on whatever you want, the focus shift is probably going to be not such a great thing for run-of-the-mill users like me.

I'm hoping blur-based 4.2 roms start to come out based on the software on the new Moto phones eventually. Probably the best chance for a good 4.2 experience.
[RAZR HD Android Development] MagnaCore:
This worked for me. My data plan thanks you.
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
Not stable ?

I can use 10.1 as a daily driver.
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
agreed. BT has been whacky, but everything else is perfect

only thing i wish is that battery life was comparable to stock
[RAZR HD Android Development] w0rdie:
I agree that it's very stable, and I use it daily... that said, something as major as bluetooth being totally unreliable makes it much less than ideal.
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
Supposedly Bluetooth is okay in today's builds but I'm still on a Sk build from earlier in the month that's perfect.

Don't update your rom every day if you need something stable and newer build doesn't necessarily mean better.

sent from my xt926 RAZR maxx hd
[RAZR HD Android Development] empoweredh22:
I'm using the skrillax nightly from 7/26 and so far I can report BT seems to be working as expected. I've been able to maintain a connection with stereo, play music, and even text while doing it all with no issue. I haven't been able to do that on any 4.2 ROM yet. I will continue experimenting with things like calls, resuming audio, etc and see if I can freeze it up but so far results are very promising.
[RAZR HD Android Development] aFancyTickler:
very stable but i cant hang up phone calls cause my screen stays black lol
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
I'm using 7/27 version of dhacker and I can confirm that the BT issue is history! I have a little general lag but it's almost perfect. Bravo dhacker! Awesome. I'm so happy to have a working BT headset. Youtube, Vine, and all other vid apps are working great.

Can anybody confirm that skrilax's 7/27 is all good too?
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
I dont know why the past few posters are reporting all the sudden that things are perfect and stable when there are pages before reporting otherwise. I have been a person who has loved this rom and started using it, like others, when you started developing it. I have seen it grow and stabilize...but its not CyanogenMod approved stable i wouldn't think. BT still has issues...when you place a call the first time after reboot you have the issue of the black screen till the call is over. Now since the last 3 nightlies including Dhackers 7/26 build we have random reboots and locks on the Motorola boot logo, phone not able to call after you miss a call until you reboot (does not always do it but once it does you have to reboot), and apps randomly lock up the phone for about 10 to 15 seconds sometimes for no reason. I even did a clean fresh flash of Dhackers 7/26 build and still same issues. I am back to Motorola Verizon bloat stock until it gets hammered out sadly :/ I would try some of the other builds from your team but I would assume id have the same issue since they are all from the same base.

Not bashing at all and I love the work that has gone into this rom and really do appreciate it. But the poster was right there are still bugs to be ironed out. Does your team have a bugzilla type site to report bugs so reported bugs can get tracked? This is one of the reasons I wish CyanogenMod would approve this device and make it official....we could report on their bugzilla for milestone and stable builds...nightlies are still out of course.

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Also keep in mind i know this is a work in progress by volunteers so I don't complain..i just report back some bugs here and there. But when i see a dev say its stable i had to post because now i have concerns with the teams definition of stable.

I did see another poster in the page back say that all the problems should be resolved in the next nightlie that i mentioned above in my post. I can confrim the issue is still in Dhackers builds at least in his 7/26 build and 3 nightlies back. Not a huge issue..i figured i would just wait till its fixed as i cant complain about Free :) If its resolved in skrillax's then i will give that a try but Dhacker's builds have always seemed to work out well for me.

If the issues i mentioned are resolved in other builds than Dhackers then I apologize for my previous comment about stability but then again when you allow multiple builds from devs on your team it is hard for a person to find the "fixed" build :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] CesarRamina:
I only use cm-10.1-XXXXXXXX-DAILY-epinter-xt925.zip

Perfect work. Stable 99,98678989865%.

Thank You, epinter.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Megaroad:
Not going to argue with you, but no it's not.
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
Hard to argue with one of the prime developers for the device. It's had it's up and downs but cm10.1 has been stable for awhile.

sent from my xt926 RAZR maxx hd
[RAZR HD Android Development] xtort1417:
Same here. No reboots, no issues, daily driver for months.
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
No need to argue. Not everyone has the same needs, and the same opinion about the same thing. scoobaspeaz reported problems that for some people can cause a bad experience... I think are those problems that are causing instabilities for you. We will try to solve them.

Talking about the cm-10.2, at the very first moments, we saw some possibilities, some chance to make it work with our kernel 3.0. But the cm devs made changes at critical components (media and display), that caused big problems and atm we don't have a solution to make the phone boot again. Let's wait the cm's code to stabilize to know what we can do...
[RAZR HD Android Development] n0credit:
Maybe with the release of moto x (qcom soc) we'll get a new 3.4 kernel, thanks for all your work.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Thank you epinter...Honestly if it were not for you and your team we wouldnt be having as much fun as we are today on this device. And as for the stability issues i was talking about it only really cropped up in the past few nightlies. However I am giving skilrax's latest a try and hoping for the fixes that another developer posted to be in this build :) :good:
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
I've been using skrilax's 7/27 for close to a day and the BT and other issues are gone. I've had only very slight lag but no hard boots like before.
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
been using 07-15 + code kernel for a while now..

no issues for me too
[RAZR HD Android Development] SquireSCA:
Well lots of people have had lots of issues. No HDMI, crashing, FC's, BT issues, bootloops, radios broken, etc... Every time one issue is fixed,t he fix breaks something else. LOL

I cannot use them as a daily driver. Any of them. I mean, I can, I could make due with instability or missing features, but when my phone bootloops on its own and I miss an important call for my boss, that's a problem. Everyone appreciates the work that goes into the ROMs, but it is ok to admit when for some of us, the stock Moto ROM is actually better. In my case it is. Everything works, it never crashes, etc...

Back when I had a Droid X, CM was the only thing that made it run right. All of the stock updates just made it worse. When I rooted and went to CM, that was when the phone finally started working the way it was supposed to out of the box.

But I think that over time, with so many phones out now, so many things to keep track of, the Devs have gotten spread thin. I don't see the quality and stability that I used to see in custom ROMs. It is like there is more emphasis on people wanting the absolute latest code possible, mainly for bragging rights, than they are about making sure it is 100%.

I don't think that most custom ROMs provide the same level of stability and functionality that the stock ROMs do. Sure, they might look a little nicer and have some shortcuts and a 5% boost in performance, but when you factor in the crashes, the stuff that doesn't work, the time spent maintaining it and the headaches of constantly fiddling with it, is it worth it?

For many it is. It's a hobby. I like to tinker myself. It is fun to try new stuff and have something that most others don't. But when I have to do get my girlfriend's stock phone to push a video to my TV via the HDMI port, or I cannot stream BT audio to my car anymore... That's when I throw in the towel and go back to stock on the phone and use my N7 for tinkering...
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
What code base is skillrax using? I ask because his latest build does not have voice+. The newer cm builds from dhacker have it and I have gotten used to it :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
I don't know what code base skrilax is using but I definitely have Voice+ on the 7/27 build.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Hrm

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I did a clean fresh install. Are you dirty flashing? If so maybe you had it in a prior build and now it's not in the new ones.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
Yes, I'm dirty flashing so it's possible I had it in a prior build. I went from dhacker's 7/24 to skrilax's 7/27.

Update: Sorry, I went from skrilax's 7/25 to dhacker's 7/27. Sorry I got that wrong. I'm currently on dhacker's 7/27.
[RAZR HD Android Development] localceleb:
I hate to be that guy, but I didn't see it linked on the front page...where are the skrillax/dhacker builds stored?
[RAZR HD Android Development] randa-76:
Links to builds

Here are the links:

DHacker: http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/cm/

Epinter: http://goo.im/devs/epinter

Skrilax: http://skrilax.droid-developers.org/cm10.1nightly/razrqcom/choose_device.php

I hope this help you, friend
[RAZR HD Android Development] kabaldan:
The buildbot maintained by Skrilax_CZ builds nightlies using this manifest:

https://github.com/razrqcom-dev-team/android/blob/cm-10.1/default.xml

It was missing a few recent upstream additions (including VoicePlus), so I've fixed that now.
[RAZR HD Android Development] empoweredh22:
As far as "all issues being fixed" I think that was mainly in reference to the BT problems that were being discussed at that point. After using the 7/27 build all day BT does seem to be working flawlessly.

The problem I'm currently experiencing is my microphone cuts out intermittently. The problem seems to be worse on outgoing calls than incoming and seems to work fine for apps such as Google Now--it's just calls. Generally, ending the call and having the person call me again solves the problem. Still work to be done, but great progress nonetheless.

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PS I can also confirm the continued existence of random 10-15 second freezes, but at least it doesn't restart and does come back stable.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
I have also noticed sound does not come out either such as ringing noise etc. when the issue arises found during calling attempts. This only started about 3 nightlies ago and I provided dhacker a log cat on twitter.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
Please help. I'm stuck at the bootloader. I tried wiping the dalvik and cache and reflashing the nightly and I'm still stuck. I just tried factory resetting and reflashing the nightly and it's still stuck at the bootloader. How do I get my phone on?

Just tried reinstalling the nightly for the 10th time and I finally booted up to a clean phone. I'm now restoring from TB. Anybody know a solution to being stuck at the bootloader?
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
This is an issue a few of us have had. Most fastboot and do a full stock restore.

All the devs say this hang that doesn't work with a reinstall is a bad backup or rom. But yours eventually worked so you know it's not a bad rom.. What version are you running? I'm debating going to a newer build but want to avoid that one.
[RAZR HD Android Development] LunaticSerenade:
On the occasion I get that, I just boot into recovery, wipe Dalvik/cache, then reboot and it's all good.

Sent from my CM 10.1 XT926
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
He said he tried a factory reset and it didn't even bring it back. I guess it's something you have to see to understand
[RAZR HD Android Development] LunaticSerenade:
I saw that. And understood it.

I'm simply trying to point out what works for me in similar situations.

Also, factory reset depends on stock recovery (or FXZ).

Sent from my CM 10.1 XT926
[RAZR HD Android Development] Orphee:
Hi, I came back on cm to try it again.

The car dock and BT still crash...

How can I help Dev to solve car dock issue ?

I can't use cm as daily driver without a full functional car dock...

Thank you
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
Which build are you using? Sk build from yesterday works great for me with those two items.

sent from my xt926 RAZR maxx hd
[RAZR HD Android Development] Orphee:
Tried last night with 28/07 build.

Installed 29/07 this morning, I'll check again.

Do you use car dock and BT together ?

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Came back to 28/07 build (skrilax). 29/07 has sound KO.
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
yes i used them both yesterday.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Orphee:
Yesterday, I plugged the phone to car dock, it enabled Bluetooth linked to the car.

I received a phone call, phone hanged, not able to answer. Few second after it came back, but no sound anymore, I had to reboot.

I'll try again asap.
[RAZR HD Android Development] empoweredh22:
Same problem. After Friday's build worked great all weekend, I noticed Pandora wouldn't play last night. It just skipped through songs. I thought it was a Pandora issue and thought nothing of it, just flipped to FM instead. But this morning my alarm just vibrated, no sound. (Thank god I managed to wake up) and then neither Pandora nor Gmusic would play this morning, with both simply telling me the track was unavailable. When I tried to make a phone call, DSP Manager crashed and/or the phone rebooted. (Tried several times and the result varied.)

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Solved the problem for now by updating to the 7/29 nightly.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Who's nightly?
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Man I just had no alarm clock sound go off on Skrilax's 7/28 nightly. I checked the alarm sound level, at max...I then selected several alarms and none of them played. I was 2 hours late for work today :/

I updated to the 7/29 nightly and its working again but I am not sure if it was the actual update or if it was the reboot I had to do to update it. I wish I would have troubleshooted it a bit more before updating.

I don't complain about free but I do have to ask if anyone else is having this issue? These nightlies used to be pretty solid as daily drivers minus the BT issues...but ever since we started getting the selinux included builds this kind of oddness started happening and nightlies became really alpha like. If this continues I am sadly going to have to go back to stock.

Anything I can do to help the devs resolve this? Logcats or anything? Are you guys accepting these and if so where do I post it and how do I know you are reviewing the logcat?
[RAZR HD Android Development] SquireSCA:
It seems to be the nature of the beast these days. Custom ROMs used to be better and more stable than stock, but I think that with so many phones to support, the dev community is psread thin. And there seems to have been a shift from creating the best and most stable ROMs, to being able to have the absolute latest and greatest, and the quality has suffered. Things are pushing forward at such a fast pace, that there isn't enough testing going on, and so ROMs that used to be beta and RC quality, are now mostly Alpha.

We still appreciate the hard work, but custom ROMs are not what they used to be. Neat features and pushing the envelope has taken over as the primary focus, and so as a daily driver they become less desirable...
[RAZR HD Android Development] empoweredh22:
Skrillax. Sorry.
[RAZR HD Android Development] GiBraiNe:
I'm using the same build and this morning my alarm triggered just fine.
[RAZR HD Android Development] SquireSCA:
Like most of the issues, they don't have to affect everyone. They are very hit or miss.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
See thats the concerning thing and I suspected that. Two of us have posted their alarms didnt go off and you have posted that it worked fine. That tells me something else is the causing factor. Might be related to the previous reports of sound not playing in the ear when making a call sometimes. As an FYI I used a fresh 7/28 build install and did not dirty flash.

I am hoping that the Devs know whats causing this or at least experiencing the same issue or can tell us what we need to do to give feedback that helps them resolve this. I really want to use this as a daily driver...its gotten worse, like i said, since the selinux builds started rolling out.
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
yeah i was having audio problems on the 7/27 and 7/28 builds. i will have to see how 7/29 is now
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
*Edit* Dhacker said selinux is still enabled. Not sure why its not showing up though in the "About Phone" section anymore.
[RAZR HD Android Development] localceleb:
Anyone test it yet? I'll give it a go just for curiosity's sake
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
I am currently on Skrilax's 7/29 build. No problems yet but I have only been using it for a few hours now and mostly as a calling and texting device. I have not tested HDMI, BT or anything like that.
[RAZR HD Android Development] robobub:
I had that problem on 7/27 and rebooting / wiping cache/dalvik didn't solve it, so I reverted. How is 7/29 working?

The logcat complained about "NO SOUND CARD DETECTED"
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
On Twitter Dhacker said he will start creating his builds without the audio changes that were made recently. However it will be in his builds after 7/29. I am going to keep an eye out for that and then flash soon as it becomes available.
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
yes dhacker said to not use recent builds. ie 7/27-7/29 due to audio issues. BT does appear to be fixed though. i'm back on 7/2 for now
[RAZR HD Android Development] Orphee:
With 28/07 skrilax, bt seems to works well but AD2P doesn't work. My parrot Bluetooth doesn't have access to my phone book...

Back on stock Rom currently.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
New Dhacker build with audio changes reverted: http://t.co/tfpHcSMxyc
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
Does this one currently have fstrim enabled or does this rom suffer from the same as the HTC and nexus stock roms? I found the phone runs alot better after running fstrim on it. Atleast for the time being.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
The command is there when I go to the terminal. All though I dont think its laggy at all honestly.
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
I should have asked does it automaticly do it as needed. I know the nexus 7 and galaxy nexus on stock both of them support it but dont do it on its own as it should.

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Just came upstairs to see the phone did its first reboot on me. the dhacker29 072913 build without selinux in the name.

Gladly, It did automaticly bring itself back into the rom vs the bootlogo hang.

Would still love to be able to get some ideas on a logcat app that can run on the phone so i can atleast have something to show to help with them but every app I hear about for that sucks and doesnt work on 4.2
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
Do you know if this breaks bt audio?
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
Another thing I just noticed. My notifications have no sound. Volume all the way up and even when I goto select a sound when I click on them they make no sound.

Anybody else see this?

****Edit****

Seems doing a fix permissions solved this issue.
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
Unfortunately, the code that fixed the bluetooth audio causes a very weird bug (and not easy to detect), that makes the phone to have audio completely broken after a reboot. The work on bluetooth audio will continue in a separated branch, and will be included in the build when it's ready.
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
I got audio back after a reboot by fixing permissions and clearing both caches.

sent from my xt926 RAZR maxx hd
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
Thanks for the update man! I appreciate the hard work
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
For those interested here is an apk for cyanogenmod focal. It's in the galaxy nexus forum but I tried it and it worked great. It's in the first post.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2384106
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
I didn't have to clear cache and dalvik and it came back.. Just fixing permissions
[RAZR HD Android Development] dvgb173:
Do you lose audio and have to run fix permissions after every boot?

Or is it just a first boot problem?

Doug B.
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
Rebooted without issue last nite.. Woke up this morning and all audio is broken.. Bt works tho while nothing else works. But than again bt worked fine for me before when everybody else said it didn't.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Which Dhacker 7/29 build did you use? He had one earlier in the day named the same file that had the broken audio...later in the day, sometime after the timestamp of when i posted in here he was going to fix it, he updated it again. This time its named the same but has the audio issues removed.

Just wondering what one you used as they were both named the same thing. To error on the side of caution I would delete the zip from your phone and redownload it and flash it to make sure you are on the right one.
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
There was a selinux 29th and a non selinux. Went to the non because of the later timestamp and I'm noticing now the selinux one has been deleted. So I'd assume I got the right one.

Installed 10.2 just to see how it worked and if it didn't have such low volume I think I could deal with it..
[RAZR HD Android Development] empoweredh22:
A strange BT problem I've noticed on the 7/29 Skrillax build not related to audio:

BT gets stuck "on" even when it's not connected to anything. I noticed the BT icon was still blue in my office away from the car, which is the only BT device. I further noticed that my battery was dropping like a rock (~5% in ~40 minutes of standby) and when I went to check it out the top culprit of battery use was BT Share at 40%. I manually turned BT off, then turned it back on and it came back, disconnected as expected. Moral of the story is it was trying to do something via that BT connection to the car that it shouldn't have been doing and didn't want to stop doing.