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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] g_money:
Just took my wife's note 2 back to stock unrooted. Once she gets the 4.4 update, I'm just going to odin philz recovery and flash supersu from that....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
[MENTION=5192376]g_money[/MENTION]

Your plan to root will likely put you into a soft brick. I tried those exact steps when mk4 came out and that was the result then.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] g_money:
Jlmancuso, were u able to figure out why the soft brick? With my s3, I odin'd the nd8 update (stock OTA tar md5). Once I was running the stock nd8, just odin'd philz and then flashed su zip. Worked like a charm. My only concern with the note2 is that if it doesn't work there is no stock note2 4.4 tar yet. How did u fix ur soft brick?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
The soft brick was caused by knox. Yes I was able to fix it after a bunch of tries. I was on stock mc2 used the ota update then did what you are planning to do. I did this on the fitst day of the push so there was no full rom tar. After hours of trying to fix the issue I discovered that this zip (billards back to stock) would completely revert the device to mc2. Now with 4.4 we (devs) dont know yet what will be needed to gain root or remove knox.

I would suggest that users wait a few days before taking the update. It only took a day or two to figure out mk4 so I am sure it wont take long before 4.4 has root and de-knox procedures.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] g_money:
[MENTION=4011301]jlmancuso[/MENTION]

My wife would flip if I hosed her phone :D But, I do think it would work? The only thing rooting 4.4 did on my s3, was trip knox?

I respect your opinion, and will keep an eye on the forums once 4.4 drops on the note, but (even with the bricking that I've read about in the s3 forums) I had no problems putting a custom recovery on my phone and rooting it?

I used the method in the op to get her phone back to stock unrooted mc2, and she then took the OTAs to mk4, so she's got knox...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] itrs:
haha so i just about bricked my phone....

for the newbies. put this zip on the phone!!!! not sd card. the screen came up "fooled ya" and got stuck there for more than 30 minutes and than i started sweating lol turns out it couldnt read the sd card which was where the rom was.... yeah i fudged up lol but i got careless since i always kept it on my sd card and flashed it there.:crying::cyclops:

lesson: zip on PHONE . bad idea= zip on sd card
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Macguyver:
I've used it from the SD card many times. Maybe it's your SD card?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] g_money:
Never had a problem flashing off external sd, until last week. Fixed it by moving my zip out of the download folder on sd card, and putting it in the external sd root folder. For some reason phone didn't want to flash zip from a sub folder on the external sd?

I had never tried flashed from an external sub folder until then. Flashed off the external sd, but always from foot...

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
A little confused, does this format the external sd card or the internal? I thought it said it erases everything except internal?

Thank you

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
It does not touch the internal or external sdcard
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
Wow! I got a response this fast from Billard412 HIMSELF! Thank you sir you are a god send. May I ask are you going to upgrade to the Note 4 or is there another phone you are looking at?

Thank you very much

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
Money is a little tight for me right now. If I manage to get that taken care of I'm hoping to get a note 4 s5 and even an htc m8 in that order. I'm also hoping to update this for KitKat when the note 2 receives it. I've been outta the game for way too long I feel like I'm in withdrawal
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
I know right I want an M8 but I'm holding out for a Note 4. I hope you develop for it or you are in a team that develops for it.

Charles

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I have the pro version of Mark Skippens tool kit. If I take the OTA after the roll back can 4.3 stock be rooted? My apologies for what is a noob question.

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
Ya it can be rooted but I believe it has to be de-knoxed as well. Personally I would save the hassle and flash one of [MENTION=3098803]lorjay589[/MENTION] 's stock roms with root and no Knox. Runs just as good as the official ota
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
Will do sir As always Thank you
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
Just a heads up THIS WILL DOWNGRADE 4.4.2 OTA UPDATE!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
So jlmancuso,

You are on 4.4.2 ota and then used billiards restore to stock and it worked!?

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
Yes I took the 4.4.2 ota then used odin to flash philz 6.07.9 (uncheck reboot option) and flashed this and went straight back to pure mc2. To make sure all was fine I took the 4.3 ota and then the ota back to 4.4.2. There were no issues with anything.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Chaz187:
I went from 4.3 rooted back to 4.1.2 stock with billards took ota to 4.3 now waiting to get 4.4.2 update.....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
I have a deknoxed deodexed and rooted 4.4.2 rom linked in the general section no waiting on the ota.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Chaz187:
Yeah I saw that.... wonder if the same issues with 4.3 not being on the latest update..... I hate reboots... loo
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
Only time will tell. I only ran it for a few moments and now I am working on getting the N3 features and S5 stuff ported over to our device. So I dont know about random reboots yet. Once I get something ported I will run it on MC2 bootloader/firmware/radio and see if it is just a 4.3 thing.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
So now that you are developing the 4.4.2 stuff and I used billiards to get back to MC2, should I take the ota to 4.3 then wait for ota for 4.4.2 or root 4.3 with Mark Shippers tool kit and wait for your 4.4.2 ROM? I'll wait for your advice before I move.

Thank you jlmancuso

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jah_rankin:
Google play store fc's repeatedly any one with this or its just me?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
That and other fc's are being reported, I believe jlmancuso is working on it in addition he's adding other S5 and Note 3 features.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Leoisright:
Start a new thread in here and I can help with unlocking features if you want. Too much reading through misc posts in there. Start up a dev thread :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
LEO! D Man!

You are a sight for sore eyes. I hope you and the family are all well.

How's it hanging?

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Leoisright:
Been good bro. Yours?

Not much goin o here. Just raising my son. :) messing with the computers as usual :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
Very cool. So which phone are you on now? Are you on the Note 2?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Leoisright:
Yeah. Been on it for about a year and half. Looking forward to the note 4 :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
Same here

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So I'm on MC2 stock unrooted, used Billards fix. Should I take the OTA to 4.3 then root and wait for rooted 4.4.2? I feel unnerved by taking 4.4.2 OTA and not be able to obtain root. Any thoughts?

Thank you

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
http://download.chainfire.eu/446/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r3.zip

Just take the Ota to 4.4. Then use Odin to flash your recovery of choice. In the recovery flash chainfires super su installer zip from the link above. Then flash the de-knox zip for 4.3. It's attached below if you don't have it. These are the steps I took and they worked great for me
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ceabbott2:
God I love you :) Billard you are awesome. Thank you sir!

In all seriousness, I wish I had an ounce of you and the other developers talent. I would love to contribute more but with just enough knowledge to get myself in trouble, not going to happen.

Thanks to ALL of the developers, themes that contribute so much to our phones community.

Charles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkangels6sic6:
That Note 4 is going to be beast. The S5 basically already has the best display and camera. And has IP67 water resistance.

The Note 4 will at least match it and most likely overshadow it. It might reach 750 nits.

Plus probably an S805, 4GB ram, and new pen functions.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Harjan112:
Will the WIFI hotspot MOD still work on 4.4 or do we have to wait for a new MOD?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] datdirtyscrew:
This just in.... Note 4 will give you the ability to hack your friends and your city just like in #WatchDogs. Personally I'm fed up with the Samsung Galaxy series. They're milking that cash cow.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] itrs:
That's awesome but I personally have been out of the game since whomp came out last year and have stayed trued til 1st of may last month and i've been trying different roms and unrooting and rooting .... thank you for this RESET you have made for us.

So take the update to 4.4. kitkat.

use odin to flash custom recovery.

root by

flashing chainfire super su installer zip

flash de knox zip for 4.3

[steps for myself to remember later]

I actually tried one of the roms out with kitkat but no mobile network haha definitely had to which back to whomp but looks like major fun!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
FYI all kitkat roms must be flashed with philz or cwm or you will not have data.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] itrs:
thank you so much for verifying that! i was looking here and there that some one would say the exact thing and i finally ditch twrp and switched to philz . might just charged my battery and have a rom test night :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] mash4077fan:
I am running a 4.1 custom rom. I did try a 4.3 rom but my phone gave me problems so someone suggested I try this method. What I would like to know is at the end of the video the option to root is there. Do I need to also install the root file in the op as well as the MC2 stock file? If I do take the root option but dont install any custom recovery and dont remove any system apps will i get the official ota when i reboot and also will it go through and stick if i am rooted? Also will i have to odin a custom recovery or can i use goomanager to install twrp or can i use stock recovery to flash a twrp flashable zip. Any help would be appreciated.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
I've never used that method of adding root so I can't say weather it will work(although I would assume it does the job).. I've always used my root zip.If you use that option then flashing the root zip would not be necessary. You should have no problem taking the mk4 ota and you can even keep root using ota survival mode in supersu. If you take the next Ota to ne2 then you will need to reroot. Hope I helped clear some **** up
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] mash4077fan:
Every bit helps, thank you. so if i dont take that option would i install root.zip before i reboot or after.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
Before you reboot
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] itrs:
Just a follow up. ..

Philz did not want to work for me.

I rebooted from phone to recovery but it got stuck in a boot loop would see the Samsung then the background to Philz before going back to samsung screen ... looping..... I used Odin to switch over to cwm .... Same boot loop. Tried restarting from download mode it wouldn't even boot into the system. So yeah I almost laid an egg but finally switched over to twrp.

Worked fine and booted normally.

Tried to switch over to cwm recovery but it again boot looped.

odd..... thought it would have been just Philz but I used this reset and now am on 4.3 awaiting 4.4 ota

I saw that others had some issues with Philz as well just wanted to share my experience.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
Glad to hear it worked. Twrp just handles this best don't ask me why. That will soon be resolved tho as a 4.4 version of this is in the works and since twrp has problems with kk roms I'll be forced to add support for philz and cwm.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jlmancuso:
I am a big philz fan but 98% of the time twrp flashes this properly. Only thing is the other 2% it will say no os installed when rebooting. If that ever happens just reflash the file
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] itrs:
yes thank you very much for your dedication! this reset is definitely my go to when everything goes a little haywire. I'm definitely excited to get 4.4 rooted. love the whomp rom but can't go backward only forward have to let go of some things along the way :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Kikoshi:
So.... dumb question.. Im on 4.3 rooted stock, i want stock rooted 4.4 using chainfires exploit.

My steps would be correctly please if im wrong, i won't do anything yet until someone confirms it for me.

Download TWRP and Flash to current phone

Download This Restore to Unrooted Stock MC2.

Then wait for OTA MK4, and since i have the OTA for NE2 do that one after?

Is this ok?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
Steps please?

Can I get a step by step instructions on how to unroot the phone? If you ask me why am I asking for step by step, you might want to visit the thread on how to root - unless I was sure I'm doing every step right, I didn't start doing anything. I don't want my phone to be bricked, I don't want my phone to stop working. All I want is to unroot it, so it was working the first day I bought it. So I'd really appreciate it if somebody could give me the step by step instructions, preferably with as much details as possible. Thanks to any kind soul :)

P.S. Stock 4.3 l900vpubmk4
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jocarog:
Just follow the OP instructions, make sure you have twrp for this to work, that will take you back to mc2 stock unrooted...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
Ok, let's do it another way... When I do the factory reset, do I have two options to choose from on stock root: twrp and cwm, or I need to download them or what? I'm good with phone's basic and a few of more advanced features, but not a lot. Just as I mentioned, I asked a lot of questions before rooting - including which checkmarks must be checked in Odin, which not. So about rooting and unrooting - I'm a complete noob I could say. And I can ask a lot more questions, simple, but maybe (and I don't mean to be rude) for some people they might look dumb, but all I want is to unroot my phone and have it working. At least for 9 more months. With possibility to upgrade.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ColeTrain!:
anyone that knows more feel free to correct me.

TWRP and CWM are recoveries. when you are done with this, you will have the stock recovery, which is nether. To start don't worry about CWM at all, don't use that. Find the correct version of TWRP and use Odin to put it on your phone. then flash this. when you are done, if you want it unrooted stock, then don't change recovery any further. Use the stock one.

There is a YouTube. Did you see that?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
Great. Thanks. One more (and I hope last) set of questions. Settings in Odin should be the same as when I rooted it, right? With the only exception that I'll use TWRP instead of root, so I could boot into recovery mode to choose... Or it'll automatically choose the stock OS? I know I can be annoying, and I'm really sorry for annoyijg you, but I really hope these questions will be last. This time a lot of stuff I started to understand, and so if your next message will be as informative as this, I hope I will be done pretty soon. Thanks for your effort so far, please keep posting. Is there any way to thank you? On the forum, not in real life :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ColeTrain!:
not annoying. just trying to understand your question so i can answer. there is a thumbs up to thank with. but you can put a 12 pack of any stout on my doorstep. lol

yes. using Odin is the same, just select a different file.

i think the hang up is recoveries. do some searching to understand that. but the recovery is the basic system we use to install roms, kernels, and most everything. TWRP and CWM are custom recoveries that have additional options and is the only way to go if you are in to this stuff. you are stating that you want to be completely stock unrooted and therefore you will use TWRP recovery to launch and allow this restore tool to work. when it is done, it will install the stock recovery for you to complete the process. If memory serves.

i hope this helps.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
OK. Let's imagine I installed twrp. I restart my phone and what do I see? This TWRP that looks more graphically than a recovery should look like? And there, where do I click to enter the stock recovery mode? Just restart? Install something? Leave as is? Else? Currently I'm not home and so can't do that, but even if I could, this talk might last for quite a while, that is I'm trying to get as much details as I can. Please feel free to ask questions, because that's exactly what I'm doing ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ColeTrain!:
you need to understand recoveries. I like YouTube. search on that. "twrp recovery I would type.

to go to recovery. turn your phone off. then hold the volume up, home button, and power. hold till the recovery shows.

same thing except volume down is Odin.

there are more options in a custom recovery. something like "install zip" is what you will select and then find this file that you downloaded.

bed time for me. GOOD LUCK

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And find that thanks button. Lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] na_tra:
I need to know that if you installed TWRP recovery on your phone? If you dont, go here: http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/t0ltespr and get TWRP2 v2.6.3.0. Why the old version? It never gives me any error. I have not tried the latest one yet because the custom rom is doing so well. If you are on stock recovery, then get the TAR file to flash it via Odin v3.0.9 here: http://odindownload.com/. In Odin make sure the only following boxes have the check on: AUTO REBOOT, F. RESET TIME, and of course PDA to load the TWRP tar file to flash. To get to ODIN on the phone, turn it OFF. Then hold down the HOME, POWER BUTTON, and VOLUME DOWN at the same time. Odin will come up. Press Volume Up to continue with Odin. Now, you should open ODIN in your computer and now connect the phone to the computer to flash via ODIN. The computer will tell you that if it recognize the phone by having the COM.. appear. If no COM.. appears, then try different USB port. I assume you already install the Samsung driver for the phone. If not, you have to download it from Samsung.com and install it before the computer recognize the phone.

If you are on Philz Recovery with the 4.3, then just download the TWRP Zip file and flash it with Philz. Then reboot and you are now on TWRP recovery. Hold down HOME, POWER BUTTON, and VOLUME UP to get to the recovery mode.

Once you take care of that, you can use TWRP to Factory Reset first then flash the Back to Unrooted Stock MC2. Say NO to option to keep root after it's done flashing. DO NOT GET FREAK OUT WHILE THE PHONE DOING THE FLASHING!!! Then --->REBOOT THE PHONE IMMEDIATELY<---.

Now you can take the OTA update to 4.4.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
Still... one question... what do I click in twrp... I will try ti find videos tomorrow
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jocarog:
In twrp select install zip, by then you should have this file downloaded to your SD card, external preferred, then just let it do its thing, is gonna ask you to reboot and it will reboot but to a special recovery which is temporary, at that point it will be flashing the MC2 bootloader, once it's done it will reboot again and you should be done, back to stock uprooted, sorry I didn't answer my kids and my wife wanted to take me out for Father's day, but there is a lot of people here willing to help, that's the XDA philosophy...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] na_tra:
I dont have TWRP on my phone anymore but here is the video. Remember, it's older version than 2.6.3.0 but everything else is the same, just look different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhR4Je4I8yw
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
By "that" file you mean from the first page, right? Sorry, still not home, can't say if it's the one - haven't tried downloading yet.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] na_tra:
The best thing for you to do is to watch the video I linked in my reply then follow the instruction in it. You have asked too many questions and still have not said what kind of recovery you have or not have.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] miha2:
Actually I updated my first post to add that I have stock ROM rooted. L900VPUBMK4. I followed all the steps from Chainfire's rooting thread, so if the info from my first post here doesnt say anything, Chainfire's rooting thread should. I hope.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] na_tra:
Ok then follow the instruction how to flash TWRP tar file in your phone via Odin. This is the way I do it many times for my two note 2. You should be fine. If you are not sure, ask question with screen shot if possible.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] DarkAngel:
@billard412

Just have a few questions for you billard412 as I hope I am okay to ask this here. I don't know if this was asked before but I take it the MK4 Bootloader was okay/safe to downgrade going to the MC2 Bootloader? Is/was there something special you're able to do to downgrade bootloaders safely having Knox? Is there a major difference in the Knox Bootloaders from the MK4 & NE2 because I have read downgrading the NE2 bootloader will brick the phone?

I have used the Back to UNROOTED Stock on both the N2 & S3 countless times and am currently still completely KNOX free with the N2. I am contemplating updating to NE2 Stock as many Devs/Mods are moving towards that realm anyways but for now I am comfortable with the MK4 No Knox. billard412, thanks for all the hard work you do.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] madrilenyo93:
I'm in the same situation - I have a hardware issue for Samsung warranty to repair (a random interior crack in battery compartment that I had nothing to do with). So I used billard412's "Back to UNROOTED Stock with Auto Flash Count". But if they do update to 4.3 or 4.4, then I run the risk of their not fixing a legitimate hardware problem because they now see the Knox counter.

I understand you said that this unrooted stock will remove but not reset Knox, but I need to confirm that I understand correctly: is there no way for me to update to a stock 4.3 or 4.4 before giving it to Samsung, in a way that they will honor the warranty?