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[Off-topic] shrome99:
Same. I switched from RootBox to MysteriousAOKP last week. After trying almost very AOSP ROM, I've decided for certain that vanilla AOKP is the best. Mysterious changes nothing, adds no CM/PA stuff, just Bionic and Linaro optimizations which feel slightly faster. Plus, they update very often unlike official AOKP builds which come up once every 3/4 weeks.

@djpbx Yeah, the FreeXperia team is very well known and if I'm not wrong they should already have CM, AOKP and maybe PA ready for use.
[Off-topic] Tectas:
Heiho guys and girls,

i released the beta version of a new app i built.

It is currently officially only supporting the s3, but can be used on other xhdpi devices as well (just haven't done the resizing for other densities yet and want to keep the beta on a comprehensible range of devices), the min android version needed is 4.0.

It is a kitchen application and is primary meant for developers to provide a easy way to serve updates and addons, but can be used out of the box by users as well to flash zips they already downloaded (if the given recovery supports the openrecoveryscript).

Check it out here if your interested (to all checking my github as well, bare with me, there is much refactoring left to be done :)).
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
@tectas subscribed and will keep watching with interest :thumbup::beer:

"Not only is there no God, but try finding a plumber on Sunday."

- Woody Allen

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http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/add-a-link-to-your-github-in-your-xda-profile/

"Not only is there no God, but try finding a plumber on Sunday."

- Woody Allen
[Off-topic] Tectas:
Ah, thx for the reminder (where is the damn button^^) (also thx for the thumbs up :)), saw it already on g+, but missed to set it yet, now it's done :)
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
My friend just got a Nexus 7 32GB from US. His nephew dropped it today and display is cracked.

Now that Google has officially added devices to the play store in India, would Google/Asus repair it? Where do we contact them? Play store help?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] shrome99:
I'm wondering the same thing. Mine has an entire line of dead pixels (appeared randomly after 2 weeks of use). I looked around and it seems that the contact nos. aren't up for India yet, just US and Europe. Guess we'll have to wait.

In other news, Google Play Movies now in India too. If we get lucky, we'll get music soon and services like Spotify and Pandora may follow :)
[Off-topic] :
For the DIY'er:

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Replacement-...Accessories&hash=item2ec72e748e#ht_754wt_1399

Its almost half the price you buy the thing for :silly:
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
What the hell is going on with DS development section?

ViperSAGA's OP - torxx - has been blocked/banned for no reason, Sabsa Prime thread has been closed today (just a day after v16.0 release)

What's next? AOSP ROM threads will be removed 'cuz they are unofficial ports?
[Off-topic] shrome99:
torxx didn't say much about his ban, just that he didn't care much :p As for sabsa - http://t.co/VGCqZrbnuT (kanged elements probably come from Team Venom) I guess this is the outcome of a spat between two parties. Team Venom has always been the center of conflict because of their brilliant tweaks and the "no one can use our work" sharing policy.
[Off-topic] :
yep, and sabsa is definitely banned because of venom kangs. Nitsuy17 is the guy who thanked all the closements (whom is part of team Venom). they really are able to detect any stuff from them in other roms so they're also not taking it lightly

But i really don't get it because of torxx, nothing weird to see in his posts.
[Off-topic] rain987:
I think at the end of the day xda is going to be left out. Those that 'kang' are going else where and wont be hurt by the ban. And without the restriction they are gonna copy and develop on it.

But on the other hand there are those that develop to earn. And if they continue to let their items get kang then it will hurt their income. Imagine apps like setcpu or tb being kang without any restriction. Development and updates will cease.

Pros and cons. I dun see any win win situation.

From my DesireDS
[Off-topic] lowveld:
Yes, this place is alienating a lot of people with recent decisions and attitude.

As for "kanging", I do not agree with these recent policies, and although I see some situations where moderation is definitely needed, the vast majority of ROM-related kanging bans and whatnot is just plain wrong.

From the way I see it, I make a distinction between original work like apps and source code enhancement like CM or AOKP (although the line get's grey there), and OEM ROMs.

To put it bluntly: me, Sabsa, Team Venon and whatever, kanged HTC. And when HTC fights back like some weeks ago, we all yell "Foul!!!" and rant about the arm that is being done to developers, community, users, blah blah blah. But, when someone else takes your kang and re-kangs it (I'm coining the verb), you start whining about it??? Grow up.

Again: it's your work from scratch? Protect it, you have every right to (and I do it with my apps). You start from someone else's work (be it HTC, Sony, or your cousin's "hello world" app), you don't have the right to. Common decency applies, but that's about it in my opinion.

This is the reason I always "allow" taking whatever is needed from my ROMs. The only distinctions I ever made was branding (e.g. don't port it without my authorization, but you can take all the code, just call it something else), and my apps (e.g. ask me first before taking Tweaks control apps and etc, but I never denied it).

So, if someone uses someone else's tweaks frontend without permission, sure, you're right to be angry. If someone goes through the smali code to check the tweaks themselves (made over and using the original ROM decompiled code) and uses it on other ROM, grow up.

Sorry for the ranting, but this used to be such a nice place.
[Off-topic] Tectas:
AW: [OFF-TOPIC + SANCTUARY] Desire S Users Hangout Lounge

I somehow agree, you're definitely right when it comes to apps (even when I take another approach for my own work), about source builds, will it be aokp, cm, pa or whatever Aosp based rom, they make the source anyway public available and that's also their biggest advantage compared to the stock based Rom developers for my opinion (just take the latest announcement of cm in account about merging pie). They share their work and make the whole user experience better, because good features or fixes can be taken from others and they can take themself if they like something, that way the wheel hasn't to be reinvented over and over again, but "just" altered to fit the car it's attached to and the progress for all is faster. (even while I must confess that I like and tend to reinventing the wheel myself [not always but often], but this is simply because I want to prove myself that i'm able to, if I'm able to^^)

About the stock based Roms you're right, well the current state is a pain and it kicks the paradigm android is based on in the butt (but to be honest, the vendors itself are as well bad samples), almost every of those developers sits on "his" work. For my opinion there even shouldn't be the need for asking for permissions, but taking credits should be simply obvious.

If the stock rom developers would be as open with their work as the Aosp developers, it would be a win for everyone, development of such Roms would be faster and I'm pretty sure there also would be less of such Roms, but those available would have higher quality. Which is a win for the user, but not only because of the quality, also because there is no need to try and decide between almost identical Roms and also a win for the developers, because they bundle their forces to get better work faster done. Unfortunately I guess such a change won't happen.

P. S. : don't know if you saw my edit at buildbox, will take your suggestion and revise the current apk handling.

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Yup, that's one of the problems that goes with Sense/TouchWiz/Xperia UI/etc ROMs is that there's too many of them and they don't differ that much.

Just take a look back at how many ROMs has DS has back in the days of Android 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0/3.5 - dozens of ROMs that are based on the very same thing (which was the latest RUU at that moment) and few minor additions

Or how many ROMs do we have with Sense 4.x now - Sabsa, ViperSAGA, CoolDroid, Fallout, ...., and the situation is the same. Only differences are perfomance-wise and the amount of customization available (the best of them being the ViperSAGA with all those Venom Tweaks), and IMO rather than have 100500 same ROMs - it would actually be more useful to have devs united on a single project and make one perfect ROM instead of 10 unfinished/buggy/sluggish

Of course some might say things like "It's Android and it's about freedom of choice" - yeah, I agree, that's somewhat nice to have a catalogue of ROMs available, but it mainly goes for AOSP ROMs, there's only so much you can do with Vendor UI-based ROMs (again - small things like Fallout or Venom Tweaks)

So the way I see it (on example of our beloved DS) - have 3 basic ROMs:

One with Sense 3.6

One with Sense 4.0

One with Sense 4.1

Light and Full Sense could be incorporated within the ROMs themselves

That would make the devs combine their work to present the most decent ROMs you could possibly imagine, especially if they would combine tweaks from various ROMs into one

IMO AOSP ROMs have way more variety today (though Kang/copycats are present there, too) - just look at Nexus 7 Dev sections and how many ROMs are already available for the device after 8 months - opt he 3G version alone already has got 25 ROMs for it, and most of them are unique. That's what I call VARIETY

Best examples would be CyanogenMod, AOKP, ParanoidAndroid, PAC-man, Orca Project, Xylon, XenonHD, etc.

Sense/TW/XUI ROMs do NOT have that variety which makes the releases to be almost identical to each other

As for the XDA's Kang policy - I totally don't understand it.

Take a look at the abovementioned N7 Dev sections - there are the official CM/PA/AOKP ROMs available, but there are also ROMs that are either unofficial nightlies or kangs (and it's said in the topic name!) or even unofficial builds based off the original releases

Of course the devs of those unofficial ROMs give credits to the creates of the original ROMs (like AOKP team), but still - isn't that supposed to be forbidden to post such ROMs since they are NOT original and are basically kangs themselves (even though the devs mention that the credits/rights go to appropriate teams)?

Maybe I misunderstand something
[Off-topic] Tectas:
AW: [OFF-TOPIC + SANCTUARY] Desire S Users Hangout Lounge

Well, once more I only partially agree, only one per stock UI version is to less, there are different needs at users and even if all could be put into an enormous tweak framework, this doesn't fit for some, they want to get the best for them with at least effort as possible and I can understand that somehow, but at max 5 per version should do it already.

About the unofficial builds, they have the right to exist, because they are most of the time somehow experimental builds with small own additions and some unmerged commits, but sure all needs should there also be covered with about 3 of them.

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[Off-topic] hisname:
maybe htc is behind all this saga on our desire saga again! :eek::eek:

who knows? htc tried to force xda to remove ruus quietly before. will history repeats itself again?

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Asop is a shared resource and the developing openness between cm aokp etc is what drives it forward and keeps me here as a better product/user experience is created for us the end user... creating a real sense of shared community.

I watch and read similar infighting in the kernel developers threads, and their public spats on Twitter and g+, although all post repos to share but constantly squabble and point the accusing fingers.

I can understand that application developers require an extra degree of protection for their ipr infringement and copyright. Which ultimately leads to their income.

But can't everyone just be friend and share I thought that that was what is all meant to be about..... :)
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Its official, i hâte stock and tw.

On a sise note, i have à desire s doing not a lot if anyone needs something testing?
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Touchwiz is brilliant!

I rooted my S2 recently and installed CM10.1. after playing with it/setting it up for a few hours, i got bored. I have AOSP CM 10 on my Desire S and tablet as well so the experience is a bit dull now. Just a lot faster, as the S2 hardware is much more capable than the other devices.

but everything is sort of the same. Whereas for Sammy ROMs, there's so many tweaks etc, like multiwindow (which I actually find really useful) and the TW UI is visually pleasing, in my opinion.

This is my own opinion, i'm porbably very biased as I'm a Samsung fan now, no going back to HTC. (for now)
[Off-topic] Fastrite:
Oops. TW doesn't appeal to me either.

So how you finding it? Its an option for me when my contract ends next month.

"It's not the fall that kills you, It's the sudden stop at the bottom"
[Off-topic] c.m.b:
Autocorrection doesn't seem to work great either :p
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
The phone itself is lovely, light, feels good in the hand (im afraid of dropping it, nearly have twice just reaching for the back button) back button is a little over sensitive, i keep exiting the app

:o overall i love it, a huge difference over the saga. I picked up my beloved saga today and it felt tiny.

That was sent from the ds, just reflashed a rom and didn't notice the keyboard was French :rolleyes:

"Happiness is good health and a bad memory."

- Ingrid Bergman (1917-1982)
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
I'm having problems with Play Store recently

1) it crashes if I have a bad connection - happens mostly with Mobile Data

2) it tells me about "no connection available" even with Wi-Fi turned on - can be fixed by restarting the app

3) if tells me that background data is turned off even when it's turned on, so whenever I start downloading something and go to other app - the download stops and says "Searching for network" after going back to Play Store - happens only with Mobile Data
[Off-topic] :
@Shrome Guess what, the userbars are here :D (but my Xperia T not yet :P)

@Fatal1ty, what about a gapps package flash? i thought at the beginning of this month a new package was released
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Um, man I'm running pure stock w/ root, so it's not GAPPS trouble
[Off-topic] :
ow right, forgot you have mddi :p

tried wiping play store data in settings? sometimes it throws some trouble as well on my side and when i do this it stops *****ing :D
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Also try wiping google framework

"Happiness is good health and a bad memory."

- Ingrid Bergman (1917-1982)
[Off-topic] shrome99:
@djpbx Nice! Although t would look better if you use two with similar background colors

I just tried SlimBean, and it seems like an amazing ROM. It seems to be the only ROM that combines both AOKP and CM features seamlessly, and adds a ton of original stuff too. No overlapping tweaks like other ROMs, and it seems to be a bit faster too (the zip is just 90 MB, so it's minimal, no BS). I basically switched for the remap keys function. I can change menu to recent apps and long press menu to menu :)

On another note, ChameleonOS is about to release the first builds soon (https://twitter.com/ChaOS_ROM). For those who are unaware, this is an open source (CM based) project by the MIUI.us team. The chinese MIUI devs started doing some stuff that pissed off porters (don't know the details), that's why MIUI is so rare these days :p ChameleonOS already supports most of MIUIs major features like their Theme Manager, plus customizations from CM :) Definitely worth checking out.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
We have the exact same ROMs over at our development forum, which seem to be very popular too.

What's the big appeal over CM10.1?

Or over other ROMs like Omega and Neat ROM?
[Off-topic] shrome99:
No, the Chameleon ROM for the S2 is something completely different, no relation to the one I mentioned.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Which devices does ChaOS make releases for? Any hopes for flagships like the Nexus line?
[Off-topic] shrome99:
Nexus 7 and 4 are supported already (with a lot of other devices). They're looking g for device maintainers, and say that it would be easy to bring Chaos to any device that already has CM 10.1
[Off-topic] lars1216:
Well you guys were right in your predictions a few months ago. Our OT thread in One V general just got closed. :( guess I'll annoy people even more in OT now. :P
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
well welcome, looks like you were lucky to escape their wrath as long as you did...
[Off-topic] lars1216:
I know. I think we were one of the last few that were still surviving as a HTC device offtopic in general device forum.
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Hmm, prerelease screenshots aren't that exciting, looks like HTC Sense with different launcher + notification center from MIUI

Let's hope the final version will actually looks better
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Tried iphone 5 lovely device feels great in hand... Tempted?
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Gtfo:cool:

"It is better to have a permanent income than to be fascinating."

- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
nah, I'd never previously held one, slick light, ui was surprisingly speedy and seamless... ;)
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala not listening lalalalalalalalala

"It is better to have a permanent income than to be fascinating."

- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
hehehehe, too late in the day..... Was bored.... :P
[Off-topic] Fastrite:
Can you put CM or AOKP on it?? :D
[Off-topic] shrome99:
I agree, it's surprisingly light too. I like how simple the iOS UI is, haven't found a music app as good as the stock app on my iPod yet (though poweramp comes quiet close) but that's pretty much it. Now android is on par with the IOS ecosystem, so there is really no reason to switch ;)
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Wow, you mean you've never tried one since it got released in September?!? :eek:

Galaxy SII • Stock XWLSN • Dorimanx Kernel
[Off-topic] pughie:
Hi Oly,

I finally managed to persuade one of my mates to root his S2 last week and flashed aokp build 6 on it for him but now he wants to try a few alternatives. Any suggestions for a ROM/kernel combo? He is very open to suggestion at the moment :beer:

Edit :- I see your running dorimanx kernel so will look at that thread :o
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Hey,

What a great decision to do! ;)

What ROM was he on prior to being rooted? Was he on Stock ICS? (I assume so as JB hasn't been released to most handsets in UK yet)

If so, I'd recommend going with the stock latest JB, the one in my sig.

You can find it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1544487

XWLSN is the latest build, just posted yesterday and seems to be smoother than the other builds. (Probably a placebo effect though!)

Its up to personal preference really, if he likes AOSP look, go with a AOKP/CM10.1 ROM. I personally wasn't too keen on that, so I only tried CM10 and restored back withing a few hours. So I don't really know which AOSP based ROMs are the best.

On the other hand, with Samsung ROMs, I tried a few NeatROM (which seems to be the most popular etc) but I ended up going back to stock, its simple and suits my needs the best.

Of course I then install dorimanx kernel which has improved the performance and battery life of my phone immensely. It is fully tweaked and I did some UV stuff etc to get the most out of my battery.

On stock JB I was only getting 3 hours 20 minutes screen on time with a push. But with my new setup, stock JB with dorimanx kernel I'm getting over 4 hours 30 minutes screen on time. Fantastic improvement. Some guys have tweaked their phone further and are managing nearly 7 hours! :eek:

If he decides to go with AOSP, keep in mind there are a few minor bugs, like TV out not working etc.

Dorimanx kernel has a small bug as well, the WiFi toggle is tempremental and doesn't always work first time. (However its being looked into, and the kernel gets regularly updated)

There's a hybrid ROM between Samsung and AOSP, called Chameleon. It uses Samsung ROM as a base and strips out most components replacing them with their AOSP counterparts. It retains some apps, such as camera which are superior to stock AOSP. This ROM has the look and feel of AOSP, but the stability of Stock Samsung.

But its all up to him, whether he likes AOSP or Samsung ROMs. :)

Let me know how you get on! Any other questions, I'd love to help.

Galaxy SII • Stock XWLSN • Dorimanx Kernel
[Off-topic] pughie:
Thanks , he actually had the 4.1.2 ota from 3 before rooting so have that as a nandroid will be going to his flat later today so will have a play and let you know :D
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
As @jugg1es instantly spotted that was my poor attempt at an April Fools! I say poor, as it did seem to get a couple of you?
[Off-topic] hisname:
wait what? It was an April fool joke? :confused:

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Never suspected it to be a joke! :eek:

On a side note, Google Nose, is that an April fools joke?!

It seemed to work for me, the diapers really smelled of diapers!!!

Galaxy SII • Stock XWLSN • Dorimanx Kernel
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
:p One of their many attempts at one....
[Off-topic] :
It really looked convincing though! Lavender really smelled like lavender to me, but i think your mind tricks you there by that it looks so convincing.

So we were double-fooled actually :p
[Off-topic] pughie:
Thanks Only,

He is running aokp build 6 and dorimanx kernel 9.12 and seems happy enough....:thumbup:
[Off-topic] suku_patel_22:
We have an extra partition of 100MB with the 2.0.x HBOOT, which is not used on AOSP.

Can we partition it as swap and use it as swap space? Got the idea from here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39320087

1. Will it improve performance or the cost of swapping will be high?

2. Will it cause harm to the emmc?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[Off-topic] TatoValverde:
Seems like a copy of this one to me...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2145133

I've been using this mod on my Sensation for over a month now, and it works perfect!

Plus, you can have double Swap (100MB on /cache and up to 150MB on /data)

I am using that configuration, and you can definetly see the difference.

Battery doesn't seem to be affected, and about the emmc... it's up to you what to believe, but in my opinion it will definetly last longer than the "phone itself" :fingers-crossed:
[Off-topic] :
1. yes, performance will improve like on any linux machine. i always have 2,5GB Swap now on my laptop with ubuntu and i definitely nonticed improvement when i didnt have it.

2. yes, but on a really long term. you have more reads and writes to the emmc. just like all other flash memory your performance very slowly goes back the more reads and writes you do.

i havent found this yet and ill definitely try the script here above.
[Off-topic] bronx:
I don't get it tbh. How can it be a joke, when iP5 is actually quite good. :P

After few months of use I am sold. As said before - android tablet, ios phone - win.
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
I think it's the other way round... Android phone, Apple tablet... win

Though not for long I'm sure. Android tablets are catching up if the latest two nexii are anything to go by...

Sent from my stapler.