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[HTC One S] Darknites:
If you updated with the OTA then no you can't but you could flash a custom rom that's ICS.
[HTC One S] ultimul:
what do you mean by broke texting? sms/mms are working flawless in all roms, stock or not.

however you most probably will have to downgrade hboot, to be able to execute an older ruu
[HTC One S] jvb76:
You can't, the RUU needs a hboot version that is lower than or equal to the one currently installed.

You could also do a factory reset from hboot, which restores all settings to their defaults.
[HTC One S] touch of jobo:
That should be:

higher

or equal.

But yes. Either flash a custom ICS ROM or downgrade your hboot. (Or both.)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
I am looking to get a new phone. Optimus T is my current. Fresh off a 2yr contract with T-mobile. I don't want to sign another one but I kinda do to save money right now. I found some G2X's for cheap but I am kinda set on a SGS2. My heart really is set on the next iPhone but if I have to use my low range android that long I might lose it and go all no electronics(yeah, right) So my question, is this phone good enough to settle on in case come summer I can't afford to make the jump back to apple or Is there something else maybe you might suggest? Any help appreciated.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
Don't impulse buy or just because it is cheap(er). Especially, the decision should not primarily be based on price, it should be based on what you actually need. For example, do you need ICS or JB or will GB do? Do you need to keep the phone for every day use for 1 year, 2 years, etc. Do you need OTG to use the phone as a USB Host? Do you need a phone which is still supported by the manufacturer and has solid independent developer support? Do you need etc., etc., etc.,... Make a list, prioritize the items into must have, would like, research phones which have the must haves then the would likes in order of preference.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
well whatever droid I get, I'm going to root the crap out of. I need it to keep me updated. Tired of friends saying hey play this game with me and I can't cause my phone isn't supported and or too slow. Gb, JB, Ics, doesn't matter as long as I can run all the hip apps/games and whatnot. I've spent so long with something that can't run anything, I don't even know whats out there to use now.Really I just want to know if this phone is still good enough to play games? yup it's going to get a rom and if I do get the g2x I'll need some info which one might be a good one to start on but what I am hoping is some insight. too many phones to weed through. also know any places to shop for smartphones? tried ebay and craigs and some others but not successful yet.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redmonke255:
Don't get this phone, not worth it anymore. If you need something cheap get an HTC sensation.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] bukhum4u:
I wouldn't get the phone, development is at a halt since there isn't native drivers for ICS/JB. If the dev scene doesn't figure out how to get drivers to work, this phone will be stuck on GB forever. You're better off buying a different phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] sathkartha:
Take a look at Nexus 4.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mbamg:
AFAIK this phone should have no problem playing the latest games given the proper custom firmware and kernel optimizations.

As for the argument of G2X having better sound than the GS2, I can say none of them even comes close to my 4 year old E-Series Walkman.

If you're looking for phones of this particular generation, I'd look at the Atrix 4G. Same SoC (Tegra 2), but double the RAM (1GB as opposed to 512MB), which should vastly improve video (read: gaming) performance and overall operation. They've managed to get ICS on it recently, too, so there will be hardware acceleration.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] schmit:
ya i agree, skip this phone.. anything LG as a matter of fact. :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
suggestions on phones? t-mobile friendly. I would get the Nexus 4 but stock is scarce and its more than I want to spend right now
[T-Mobile LG G2x] monkor:
HTC Sensation can be had for cheap. Has JB, ICS, and GB if you want it. I've got one and it's hard to justify upgrading to anything else. 64GB of storage with an SD card, dual core, extended battery for a penny ( literally), can't ask for much more.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] buru898:
I would go for the s2, or one s if you don't mind no sd slot or removable battery.

Skip this phone, don't be a victim lol.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] skarookidoo:
I had the exact same phone as you before I went out and wasted my money on two of these phones. I should have done a little more research before buying. Look elsewhere.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Get A SAMSAUNG GALAXY S2 or S3

That would be my advice.

The S4 is around the corner. If you can wait.

DEVICES:

NEXUS 7 32GB STOCK

(NO ROOT)

T-MOBIL LG G2X (LG-P999)

STOCK (ROOTED)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
I would get the LG Optimus L9 (especially now that it's $199 starting Jan 9th). You wont have all the driver problems like you do with the G2x and it's a nice upgrade. If you are looking at cost for something brand new then get an Exhibit II from Walmart. It's $149 but also a single core phone. Otherwise used for cheap would probably be the sensation.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redmonke255:
Who says you won't have driver problems? Not to mention LG has terrible software.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
Because they are open sourced unlike Nvidia's drivers and once throw on CM10 you wont have to worry about LG's software.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] B00T_Sp0rk:
Not quite. A full gig of ram is only going to "vastly" improve performance if you're trying to do something that absolutely needs a full gig. That's true for computing in general, not just phones. Game performance is going to be far more reliant on the SoC. In very simple terms, memory holds information needed at hand while GPUs and CPUs crunch numbers and render images. That extra 1/2 gig is going to shine multitasking, not gaming. Anything else that really needs that full gig to perform is going to be bottlenecked by Tegra 2 anyway.

Regarding the phone dilemma, if you want an iPhone within a year I wouldn't dump a lot money into an interim phone. If you can snag a G2x SUPER cheap (less than $100 imho) it might be worth it, depending on how crappy your current phone is. It will handle most 3d games and absolutely everything 2d. A sensation would wear a lot better if you think you'll keep this next phone longer, but that'll probably run you a little more. You're getting into so-close-I-might-as-well-buy-a-Nexus with your GSII ambitions though.

You might as well buy a Nexus
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redmonke255:
Open source until Google throws a screwball and requires new drivers that you won't have access to.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
That goes with every single device out there, so you're saying I shouldn't get any phone because of that chance. It's a TI processor which have been pretty great at keeping stuff open. Even then it's open source which is a whole lot better to deal with then the closed source Nvidia drivers. It's not like LG is using anything proprietary with this phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] justforgot:
I would also tell you not buy this device. Go with s2 for now and wait till the next iPhone comes
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
I am actually considering the L9 cause its off contract for 200 and seems pretty good. I'm trying not to jump at a phone without full research which is why im here too. I want to find out if what I get has some devs on it. I would try to dev but I'm retarded with ADB.

The Exhibit is like barely and upgrade from my current phone, or atleast that's what I classified it as a while back.

Thanks for the input guys. I moved to the general forum so this can be deleted. I feel the thread is becoming less about the g2x and I don't want to break that rule.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
That is a hard thing to judge. The Exhibit II had no real support for a while with the devs but after some time it started to pick up and now it has CM10 support and a few roms. It is a risk that's for sure but now that the Galaxy S II is $500 new at Tmobile.com you are going to have to look for used phones or at the L9 new.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
Think the sensation 4g for $180 is a good deal? the L9 is $200 and the GS2 is well over $250
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
Yeah if you can confirm it's in good working condition. It already has a solid dev community and some nice specs. For a year or two it should be a perfect upgrade.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
Supposedly its in excellent condition with a return guarantee. I guess I'll give it a shot, just hope its not a pain in the back to root and put a good rom on it
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redmonke255:
I walked my girlfriend through it over Skype. It's pretty easy.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] player911:
Galaxy Nexus is what I have. It was the last Nexus to have 4G LTE support vs the N4 3G only.

The N4 is a beast and very pretty but is fragile.

The Galaxy Nexus is a beast. Best phone I owned and has awesome support and guaranteed support for future builds and the upcoming Ubuntu mobile OS.

The Nexus phones are also super cheap off contract too thanks to Google's awesome pricing. You can pick up a Nexus off contract for almost what you can get others on contract.

Having a Nexus is the singular joy in owning an Android device.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
The galaxy nexus is over $250 used and over $350 new for the unlocked version. The Verizon and sprint ones you can find cheap but all of us here are on gsm
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
yea I would get the nexus s or galaxy nexus if I could find one that's in good condition and the price isn't ridiculous. seen some of those way higher than a gs2 for whatever crazy reason. hoping I'll figure this out soon :/
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redmonke255:
Don't get a nexus s. Poor performance and dropped official support.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jryan388:
One word: Pentile.

In case anyone doesn't know, pentile is a pixel layout that looks absolutely atrocious if you have good eyesight. Most people don't seem bothered by it, but it nearly drives me insane. IMO that alone makes the g2x better.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] redmonke255:
I swear I was the only one bothered by it. Everything is tinted and it's almost like there's lines running across it. Makes using a gs3 or gnex a real pain.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dillmanr3:
I had a g2x....it was a decent device after I went thru 9 to get a decent one.... with the lack of support from lg and nvidia this phone has doomed from the start. Go with a s2 or s3, good phones... huge development.... stable devices
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
Don't buy a new expensive Android smartphone, they are too expensive and Android is too flawed and fragmented and updates are either non-existent or take too long to get even if there's a port by independent developers which can't be depended on and eventually, hopefully later than sooner, it will be abandoned even by them except for a very few diehards who may, or may not, be able to successfully port an Android update in spite of superhuman efforts. Instead, buy a used Android smartphone which is a lot cheaper and has the features you need and, although it may not have the best of something, it does the job and has support on XDA and elsewhere. A phone like that is the HTC Leo HD2 http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=531 which, even though it is an "old" Android smartphone can run different operating systems and has continuing support including Android 4 available. Look before you leap!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Bulletblitz27:
That new BB10 device looks nice :p I kinda miss my Curve.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
I think I can get the galaxy s2 this weekend. But if its sold, do you think the sensation is a good compromise? Its 60 bucks cheaper than the galaxy
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
Yes, it's very comparable
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
That's good to hear, was looking at that before the s2 so maybe ill save a few bucks then.

Hey, is there a good guide on proper app2sd or link2? I link in my phone but still lose a lot of internal memory.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
Make sure it has the features you must have or else you'll eventually hate the phone.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] nickster1:
I actually switched from the G2x to the Sensation and couldn't be more pleased. There is tons of support and lots of roms. I'm on Cm's stable ICS from and everything works. It appears that almost everything is working on JB roms as well!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] exaphor:
don't buy it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] EEngineer:
LG NO

Don't get an LG phone, LG doesn't support developers and is lousy with updates.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
Did you even read past the first post? Also they seem to be about as good with updates as any other phone maker. Hell we got Gingerbread faster then many other phones did.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] emir11553:
LG suck
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
Delete thread
[T-Mobile LG G2x] zoppp:
Maybe try getting a used galaxy nexus or maybe even a nexus 4. Maybe you could get a galaxy nexus for under $250?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
Galaxy s2 for now. Its nice. How do I delete thread
[T-Mobile LG G2x] zoppp:
The mods will close it.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] screamline458:
cool cool. Thanks everyone for your input, It helped push me in the right direction...away from LG lol
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oulouloul:
mates... i lost my efs folder and i didnt back up. i have not any efs files now. i lost my imei..

what can i do?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeeshanonlyme:
This link is your best bet at getting back your IMEI.

IOtherwise No Hope.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1264021
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Following the recent decision from XDA Moderators to remove OT threads in device forums, they have now been closed.

I have found we can continue discussion here as long as the thread is in the OT forum.

I am creating a OT lounge for fellow DS members to carry on.

Here we go.

EDIT: Since Ben's sanctuary thread has gone too, we have decided to combine them to one thread, instead of creating another thread.

EDIT1: Our BBM group
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
The off-topic threads have been closed?

That means I need to launch my attack now!
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Correct. In all device sub forums the have been closed, however we have been given permission to open them here. I fell disappointed by this decision too.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Hasn't been closed over @ kindle fire yet. Why this decision?
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
I don't know :(

Mos major device ones have though, like the N4, One X etc.
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
I couldn't agree with you more Oly. I have posted my feelings in both the DS OT threads and hope that they are read by our moderators, even if nothing changes.

This is the worst thing I have known XDA to do yet. The moderators constantly refuse to do anything about the newbies who refuse point-blank to bother searching and then get all upset and aggravated when you tell them to do so, yet they decide to close threads which serve a very useful and valuable purpose on XDA. Putting device-specific threads in the general OT forum just means more chaos - if every device has an OT thread here and they are used regularly then the other OT threads will get hidden 8 pages down the list.

I cannot see a single valid justification for this decision and have just about lost all the respect I once had for the forum moderators.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Your logic is spot on. I'm very disappointed in XDA's decision. There really was no need.

I completely see where you are coming from, the OT forum will now have so many device sub threads everywhere, so other OT threads will be buried... Regular OT members will also be affected by this, with all those extra threads.

Can't express my disappointment enough...

I'm sure a few DS people won't come along, the ones who've already left (enigmaamit etc)
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Ok this is the first real time that i have missed the thanks button in ot

What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

—Oscar Levant
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Same?! Where has it gone?!

You mean there's no thanks button in OT?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
First that, now this?! When will the madness end?! :mad:

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They got rid of it a few months ago. :(

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1997784
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
What's the purpose of the RC forum anyway? Its completely non-dev related amd mainly OT topics...

Xda is contradicting itself here. What is going on....
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I don't know, but I should take advantage of all of this chaos and take over xda! It's perfect timing!
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Aww shucks ... you guys :D
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Well, I'm here bros.

Though the original DS thread is not closed yet lol

But still, I already subbed to this one as well
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Not yet.....

What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

—Oscar Levant
[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
Nevermind, it's ok
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
I've just seen it, change the title to help thread

What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left.

—Oscar Levant
[Off-topic] dan-fish:
I'm crying myself to sleep. After a bit of revision. Does the night get any worse?!
[Off-topic] enigmaamit:
Well, I'm here...:D

Tapatalked from my SIII
[Off-topic] _Variable:
All their phones are sh eet. Especially the low end ones.

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Android 4.0.4 ICS

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"LG should go bankrupt"
[Off-topic] hisname:
hey, their phones are getting better. That's why Google choose to work with LG to make the N4.they choose to work with a (almost) literally unheard brand.

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*sigh*.... Zachthespack should have maintained his torrents... :(. I don't belive OEMS will go after torrents too

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[Off-topic] shrome99:
No, I was serious. A tablet can't do half as much as a PC/laptop, and while touchscreens are nice, nothing beats a keyboard and a mouse. Of course, they're really portable so you can use them as entertainment devices (movies, books, a few games etc.)

And now that you mention it, I just checked and it's taking up 52% of CPU (which is oddly high). Anyways, it'll probably be fixed soon.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Really? To be honest I can't stand using a mouse anymore. It feels so ancient...

I rarely use my laptop nowadays, the only times I use it are for school work or when transferring music etc.

Strangely, I can type faster and more accurately on a iPad than on a laptop keyboard...
[Off-topic] _Variable:
Me too, except i use gt p3100.

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GT-P3100

Android 4.0.4 ICS

Sun Cellular

"LG should go bankrupt"
[Off-topic] shrome99:
I read that too, and I think someone HTC has lost his mind. While very other OEM (except Motorolla maybe) is improving support for the community, HTC is doing just the opposite with their ****ty bootloader unlock and now this. The worst part is, it's just on the brink of a device release, the biggest one of the year for them. Unless we get a solution for the bootloader unlock, I'm sure most of the people on XDA will abandon HTC for the Galaxy S4 or Nexus 4. I really want to see HTC on the top, but that won't happen if they keep shooting themselves in the feet with crappy stuff like this.
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Totally agree, Tablet (iPad) is ok...for looking at stuff...but getting anything done, I need to be seated properly with mouse and keyboard....but then again this could just be a generation thing...

Yep, thought as much...its a generation thing :)

The only logic I can see from this....is that they're about to open up their own dev friendly site, a further extension of htcdev.com containing all source, RUUs, etc....

But since I just can't see that happening, they have clearly simply completely lost the plot and with it the dev community and therefore any chance they had of being a top retailer....Shame

Just doesn't make sense (pun not intneded) as you say Shrome99 right at release point when they want good press, not what this actions will undoubtedly cause.....first Football now this what next?

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Been suffering with Chrome on my Win7 laptop of late...high CPU usage and fairly regular hangs....no problem on my trusty XP workstation and its even driven me to use Chrome on the iPad as it got so infuriating! have been qwaiting for a newer update to come along and resolve it......waiting......
[Off-topic] shrome99:
I can think of two scenarios -

Best case: They do as you said, and make a site with all the RUUs (extension to HTC Dev)

Worst Case: They stop anyone from tinkering with propitiatory stuff (Sense) and not allow custom, Sense based ROMs/ports etc. especially to old devices they don't plan on upgrading to the latest version (hence forcing users to buy a new device). Technically, they can stop anyone from doing so, they did it when someone ported Sense to the Galaxy S a few years ago.

They've been encrypting their apps for quiet some time, and more recently, devs with a LOT of experience are having troubles getting ROMs from RUUs (the Desire X took some work). This is pure speculation, and I'm sure HTC isn't stupid enough to do this and basically kill of the dev community entirely.
[Off-topic] _Variable:
Why dont you guys try Samsung? The dev community is nicer.

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GT-P3100

Android 4.0.4 ICS

Sun Cellular

"LG should go bankrupt"
[Off-topic] hisname:
sense is now ported on S3,and nobody did anything

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[Off-topic] PVL_93_RU:
I knew that HTC's agreement with Apple on topic of using the fruit company's patents will NOT turn out good
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Because i went to LG instead :p....I tried an S3 and even liked it....but Samsung aren't that Dev friendly either - closed source plus I'm afriad that I like a more solid device... (sorry @enigmaamit)

It is? where ......? link please? but does it actually work? properly....

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Nothing wrong with pure speculation....its half the fun....especially here in off topic ;)
[Off-topic] hisname:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28234382

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[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
thats an ancient dead thread. the website http://sense4all.info/?lang=en appears to have been offlined....under construction....?

But you made me curious and I discovered a 19300/i9305 thread [ROM][SENSE][SENSE4ALL] Sense 4.1 PORT HOX Based 4.0.4 Beta Release [23/09]

Although by no means a daily driver still a serious issues list...NOT WORKING

Calls ( you can make calls but you can't recieve any )

Wifi.

Camera.

GPS.

Video playback

and reading the thread updates looks like the project is de-railed...and come to an abrupt end....
[Off-topic] hisname:
oh come on, at least it was a (partial) success. running sense on a non htc device is no easy feat...

Sent from my supercharged tank
[Off-topic] ben_pyett:
Don't get me wrong, what they achieved was impressive...but to me it seemed like forcing a round peg into a square hole....surely you would have been better off spending the time adding additional functionality to a Samsung device running TW or bettering a HTC running Sense...or simply improving and working on ASOP based code for all devices by adding functions to CM, AOKP and the like.

I'm not trying to p1ss on what they did, as thats the spirit of xda the challenge....more than I'd ever be able to do....so hats off to them and any that helped!
[Off-topic] hisname:
true..... have u tried the new touchwiz nature UX? tried it on my friend's phone. Looks very minimalistic, unlike sense.... my contract is ending in June, wondering what phone to get next...

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