yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
heres a better link, at least easier to find. thanks for pointing to it :) http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44714207&postcount=337
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vortex1969:
Trinity running on JWR with patch.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vortex1969:
No problem hope it helps some people. Thanks for the update.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Problems with gapps should be in /system partition, so a format should help but I assume you've already done that (in fastboot better so you don't rely of recovery). Otherwise the only thing that comes to my mind to restore damaged partitions is to flash a entire factory image. I don't know if there's a less drastic method if normal wipes don't work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Download the factory images. Put in fastboot and run the script. It's the .bat on windows and. Sh on Linux or osx

Wipes everything and returns to factory state minus keeping the bootloader unlocked.

Save the hassle of fiddling with crap and just properly restore it to factory. Then go from there once everything is confirmed working normally
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
So fast booting factory images does lock the bootloader again?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vchithavong:
mine does the same thing, also on PSX. Phone also feels sluggish after flashing this tf4h, everyone else seems to be fine. Anyone else experiencing this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it does. at least when I flashed the factory IMG on the n4 that I had for a day, in january. and a simple fastboot oem unlock after unlocks it anyways :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Alrighty. Guess I'll be backing up my internal sdcard and doing a fast boot of factory image. Thanks everyone
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shiznu:
Would you report back if it does indeed lock the bootloader? I'm just curios as to why it would. Thanks

Edit: I have reflashed stock IMG two times and it did not lock the bootloader.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
No it doesn't

You CAN relock it but it doesn't do it by itself

If you don't issue fastboot oem lock yourself than it won't relock.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it was the first n4 I had, for a day, wouldn't read micro sim cards at all. i was pushing it, corrupted something(fsync off), and it wouldn't finish booting no matter what, even after wiping. i had to flash the factory img. I didn't think much about having to type the command again, to be honest. but now I think about it, it does sound odd.

edit.. well, either that or I can blame old age :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Just saw this when I looked in my drive.....should I empty the trash?

Using 21.8 GB of 36 GB - 666 MB in Trash Upgrade storage
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I think grandpa simms brain is playing tricks on ya
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
next time empty it :)

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happens :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Do you have LTE working? I am having an issue with psx.

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Not until u take a screenshot!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
View from the ferry, en route to Milos..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Fixed yet?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
nice!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Have to wait till tomorrow afternoon
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
Eng.stk made a zip file with jwr gpu drivers so it's possible to flash jss kernel with no issues at all.

I know this might be useless considering the simple workaround but I wanted to share anyway. Haven't tried and there's no feedback yet.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43710351
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I flashed the zip from this thread and it works pretty good, I never disable HW overlays anymore.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44667259
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im on rasbean 4.2.2 at the moment. i was playing with 1944mhz with fsync off, and i accidentally corrupted something :angel:

it wouldnt finish booting up after that, even with a fresh rom flash, a good example of something corrupting with fsync off and a crash. the only nandroid i had on my n4 was from 4.2.2. so, im dirty flashing again :)

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the only way that i got it to take a screenshot at 2052mhz is by changi g the governor to conservative, otherwise its an instant freeze. 1944mhz is more hopeful. well, still pretty unstable, as my brief journey back to 4.2.2 shows. but, its being worked on. now if we can only get it not to freeze on screen-off..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
The s800 under full temp throttle runs at 1.5 GHz and full GPU speed. In the sony ultra device at least.

I don't even want to know how much voltage it uses at its highest clock. The sweet spot for it I guess is in the 1.7 GHz ball park

I don't see the OEMS not playing the clock speed race but hopefully more and more start to enable power profiles like Asus did on the transformer line.

Normal , power save and performance would be great. Letting these socs ramp up to full speed with no user control is absurd. Think most phones that do it only have a power save option.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
So l see this kernel 4.3 has oc GPU but why l do l get lower fps than l do with kernel set at 400?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
I prefer tangerines they are sweeter :laugh::good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Utini:
yes but what is this ramdisk? Will this cause any troubles with rom updates or whatever ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

We just gotta find a way to make the recent transitions more fluid with Trinity!! I know I'm beating a dead horse with this ;) :p

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
From the interniets: ""ramdisk.img is a small partition image that is mounted read-only by the kernel at boot time. It only contains /init and a few config files. It is used to start init which will mount the rest of the system images properly and run the init procedure. A Ramdisk is a standard Linux feature.""

Don't ask me to translate that in simple english, no clue. :p

No troubles, as soon as you flash a rom it flashes its own ramdisk.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] r5xscn:
Anyone with Trinity Kernel Toolbox able to set max GPU clock to 400 MHz? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Nobody is able to set any variable of GPU with TKT ;)

You can only change the CPU
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I thought gpu over clock is not integrated yet?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] r5xscn:
Using FauxClock, I can see the GPU clocked at around 480 at default CMIIW. And I'm unable to set it to 400 MHz.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

For me it is perfectly smooth running with 918mhz.

A lot lot smoother compared to stock or Franco kernel IMHO.

I am running the G Series. Not L.

via my ∞ awesome Nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
GPU has been at 487 for a few builds now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Okay then I missed that. Sorry.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

wich performs best : G or L ? (I play games a lot)

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Try both, but Im fairly sure G is better. One is better for CPU the other has another stat thats slightly improved.

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Wow, I didnt know that high of a GPU OC was safe for this device fulltime. No wonder im getting ~4800 in GPU Mark
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Lies!! Do a lot of things and the press recent button! Reaction time is not on par with what it should be! I'm on L though

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Mhm...I testes and tested.

Opended apps, switched between opened apps, pressed the key very quickly and often.

and to be really honest I can't see any delay or lag. Sorry. :o

I thought I am picky but it doesn't seem so. :D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
The only thing for me that has a slight lag is when you first press the power button to turn on the display, the animated dots that come out from around the lock are kind of slow/laggy. But it unlocks and responds quick. Haven't noticed any other lag at all with this kernel. It's very fast.

The only thing I have played with is adjusted the max frequency to 1512 as it is with the stock kernel. Feels snappier than stock does, it's my first time running it for a full day so can't comment on battery. As long as battery lasts me all day it's good to me. A snappy, smooth, lagfree experience is much more important for me than battery. With my typical use battery is never going to be a problem anyway no matter what kernel I use.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You're finally starting to realize just how much amoled screens sucked.

No need to make as much as possible black to save battery and still get crap screen time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im actually shocked how much of a difference in battery use by the screen it is. with my gnex, the screen would probably take up 80%+.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Try a kernel like Motley and then you'll notice! Trust me! Lol

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I don't notice any lag on recents either. Motley is a nice kernel, I've tried it before and it did not lag. Must be the ROM you are on?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] snak3ater:
& what's the CPU frequency?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Eh?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] snak3ater:
Nvm :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
By default, this kernel boots with only 2 cores active and limited to 1 GHz for battery conservation. The options are there to reactivate the other 2 cores and push the max speed back up to 1.5 (stock) or even higher, but if you haven't tweaked the settings, you're benchmarking with less than half the potential CPU power.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nickwarn:
Sorry if this has been answered before. But I tried to search for the answer, but didnt find anything. How does one activate the 2 deactivated cores?

Havent messed much with kernels, only changed governors and set the wanted clock speed. Grateful for help.

Nevermind found a post explaining how to do it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
I know this already thanks :) have set all cores online as l have with other kernels but if you use antutu for instance l see a lower frame rate 53-54 l get 59 on all other kernels these kernels running stock GPU frequencies:eek: l don't understand why l see lower fps:confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KiD3991:
Errr~ I haz a demandz for teh morfic, should be eh eazeh onez.

Shortly in the future release please please please put back teh PA halfbreed colours.

Other than that, my phone is badass smooth. 6 hours SOT only.

Need one more cycle to beat Simms.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
sys/module/auto_hotplug/parameters/min_online_cpus - open it up with text editor and set to 4. Save & exit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Trinity didn't use halfbreed colors.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] strainhunter:
Either by editing "sys/module/auto_hotplug/parameters/min_online_cpus",

OR

You can also use "TricksterMod" to set min. active cores (1-4)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Quick question. If I was able to pull the proprietary files from my phone (as part of building cm) then I'm good to go to do fast boot commands, correct?

Since I already have the sdk with adb and such.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Beautiful Milos & the dead calamari.. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
If you're going to flash 4.3 factory image, I think it's easier to do it with the flash-all.bat rather than typing manually all the fastboot commands.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
Probably. Note that ADB and Fastboot drivers are two different things, though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I got both since I was compiling roms , thanks guys

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Yes I was reading about that. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
ooooo Vangelis......uau ! :cool:

Guys,

its possible that chrome eats more battery than aosp browser ???

Just thinking about this...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
How are you benchmarking?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
not just a little more, much more battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Bossman!

Liked your post on twitter.

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Just using antutu at the moment if l do five test in row fps never goes over 54

See jpg this is always 59 for me with other kernels:confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nv8110:
Wondering how do you guys get so much SOT ...

just getting 2-3 hours SOT on HSPA with PSX ..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
Tks Simms,

any problem if i ask here what i asked in trinity N7 thread ?? LOL...

the tests with the N7 kernel are ok ? The problem for me is upgrade and have the wakelock problem ....

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] strainhunter:
set your brightness to the minimum, switch airplane mode on, set screen-off timeout to never.

Then just leave it laying on the table or so with the screen on.

You will get more SOT too,.....i promise :laugh: ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nv8110:
Simms can make it 7hrs with quite heavy usage ! Amazing
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Beautiful!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Simms appeases the Nexii gods for the amazing results he gets....you cant use him as a representative example ;) :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
n7 is still on hold, waiting for morfic to have time..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Let's focus on N4 for now!

Ain't I a bit selfish?:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
are you letting the cpu scale or are you locking it in to one cpu speed?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Nope CPU free to scale up from 384 to 1728:confused:

Is it just me seeing this in antutu?

Oops didn't see your picture :o
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lock it into one speed when you bench, otherwise you have no idea what speed its actually benching. try 1728/1728. also, what are you using for cpu control?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Using trickster to control CPU GPU will lock
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Don't let it scale for benchmarks.

While I aim for high available max performance,I do tune for a mix of performance and battery when scaling.

Since benchmarks are intended to measure max available performance, and since you want comparable results, you have to set min and max to the max frequency.

Then you can compare the kernels' capabilities.

Otherwise you can't compare them as you compare non identical setups.

Easy benchmarks that don't create enough load for a kernel would allow the kernel to scale down the chip while others straining more would keep the chip clocked high.

Stutters in games often come from easy scenes followed by heavy scenes, the chip scaled down due to the lack of load, then when the difficult scene hits, the clocks are lower and the chip has to be scaled back up first.

Hope this helps.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
a lot of kernels use a lower up threshold, scaling up faster. lock your cpu into 1728/1728 and test again, youll see.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
A g bell, if you don't lock your speed, your results won't be consistent nor comparable.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
right!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
That is exactly why the uneducated state "benchmark xyz does not even provide consistent results" when it is really the benchmarker's lack of common sense that creates the inconsistencies.

How come we can achieve consistent results with Benchmarks if the benchmark itself was so flawed?

That's what "the smart" laughing at benchmarking should ask themselves.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Benchmarks are pretty reliable - Simms always scores better than me. I call that consistency. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jurica_m:
Hi. Is there any differences between kernel kernel which post Simms and kernel on morfics derkernel site? Which do you reccommend for flash? I am using rascarlos rasbeanjelly. One question. When I flash kernel, do I need wipe anything or just flash?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
same war, a different front http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44781673&postcount=1468

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its the same as the last one i posted. and you never have to wipe anything when flashing kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Wow hang on l can categorically state using semaphore using Franco using tuned stock all give 59 regardless of locking the frequency or not please don't label me as cretin because lm not. lm just trying to understand how your kernel differs from the above maybe lock the frequency yes OK for what you said makes sense thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I wasn't addressing you.

It's a comment about incorrect statements made by people that have a reputation of being the brightest.

They are just wrong about that.

Kernels differ in the way they scale based on load.

Simple benchmarks often don't create enough load to keep cpu and/or gpu scaled up if the load is falling below the scaling threshold.

So to compare capabilities, you avoid scaling, to compare apples to apples.

Or otherwise adjust the governor settings to match if you prefer to benchmark while scaling (keep in mind the varying load on the system by all other apps will create inconsistent results from run to run on even the same kernel or between kernels)

To even out the varying load on the system and the resulting varying scaling is why we don't let it scale while attempting to compare two kernels to each other (I'm even talking two build of the same family)

By benchmarking on a known frequency, we can compare results more reliably.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Maybe l should mention l always try to use the same governor and scheduler with same aggressive settings where avalible :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Did you enable all 4 cores too?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Noone was calling you names. Sorry if it came across that way. We have kind of an ongoing joke about people complaining about the reliably of benchmarks. We kind of went on a tangent and digressed from your original question.

As I said before, for consistency/comparability you need to test at fixes min/max. This way you compare apples to apples. On an average day my phone spends 95%+ in min frequency. Aggressive upscaling would have only worsen my battery life.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Always do its quad core so let's use 4 cores l am of the opinion that's it more efficient than on/off but that's only my opinion 16hrs average battery time is enough for me. Also changed thermald confg to stop throttling to early battery temp never goes above 40 c but lm always aware of it :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I got a beef with this entire proper way of benchmarking thing. While its true it's also untrue.

While everything the morfic and Simms have stated is true I don't like the idea that if they are not used that way ,you're doing it wrong.

Its the right way to test if changes to kernel have a positive or negative affect on performance. But there is nothing wrong with benchmarking at default settings or the users default settings to see how it performs in the conditions that you run your device at for normal usage.

Now we all know comparing those scores to the "proper" way of doing the benchmarks and that is a huge flaw. But using the benchmarks to test how the device performs with normal settings is a perfectly valid way of using the benchmarks too. It's just not valid to compare to other results.

I see it as rather simple really, testing changes to the kernels to see their effects should be ran at the same min and max to eliminate variables / scaling etc. But also test the device at your normal settings. To test how it performs with all that going on too. Because while the "proper" way is the way to go to test the impacts of changes to the kernel. The proper way is also useless to see how the device performs for your day to day normal usage. You will also find useful info from these test too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Psx 3.2 with newest trinity kernel. Much messaging, some browsing and xda. Half of the time with wifi and the rest with mobile data.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
this works perfectly well if you are just testing your setup for yourself. but it doesnt work if you are looking for the tests to be consistant. if you let it scale, the results are almost meaningless(unless the benchmark keeps you at one cpu speed) because every time you test, even on the same setup without rebooting, the results will differ. and if the results differ every time, you dont really see the real results. unless you take an x number of benchmarks and average the results every time(maybe).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Exactly Simms. My beef is just the you're doing it wrong , don't run them that way , they're useless lines. That pop up even more nowadays than before.

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...and-new-ui-in-app-multitasking-and-much-more/

New things
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well, then it just depends what side youre looking at it from.. i see it as youre doing it wrong. i do enjoy that youre an opinionated person, as i see some of myself there. but, thats the nature of this beast, here i dont agree with you :p

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sweeeet!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Anyone want the new YouTube apk?

https://copy.com/Ve4Sa
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Its nice....really like the direction theyre going.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yea I like it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Is this gonna be updated or is this a leaked version?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
This is official version 5 that's rolling out in play store