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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
get an education, mature to at least adulthood, then ill be willing to listen to you. because as of right now, you dont know/have an argument, what you are posting doesnt have any facts to support it, at least youre not posting any facts. all you are posting is what people that dont know what to actually say to support their own arguments post. until you post facts to support your ideas, this is the last reply you are getting from me on this subject.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I made you write a book simms ;)

Im still at work, and while I am currently an atheist, I was raised catholic, and maybe my church was different, but we embraced science. As a young child I was always very inquisitive, and the church leaders always had a logical answer to my many scientific questions. They would try to use science to prove their faith. Mostly because we did not take the bible literally. It was usually explained as an interpretation.

Example, if the earth was created in 7 days, then when where the dinosaurs? It was explained to me that it wasn't literally 7 days, but 7 periods of time.

I will do some research and rebuttal with what the opinion is of those who have both faith, and are open to science. My faith was removed many years ago, but I have no problem with those who have it. And in fact, my lack of faith, I believe makes me the perfect candidate to argue for them,

I'm glad you joined the conversation :)

And I'm glad you corrected my ignorance of the missing link. :)

[MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION] Ill get to you when I get home. :)

I was just so impressed with Simms encyclopedic response.

Edit: I just read some of the other comments. "Others" who are trying to make the same point I am, you are making this VERY hard for me... Using terms like "LOL" and "U" is not the proper response to Simms educated comment. It makes you sound...... *sigh* stupid.

And with that, I have used the word I hate :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nedooo:
M..."poof" could be "po.......of", but it's still kind of "poof", refer to youtube link I posted :cool:

You want me out, I'm out :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lol, im at work myself too, so much was copy/pasted :angel:

i was also raised religious, jewish(reform judism). i even went to hebrew school until the 4th grade. im also lucky in the fact that it was strongly pushed in our school to not believe in things blindly, to go out on our own and gather fact, then use our own mind to make our own decisions based on these facts. yes, they even taught real science there, and did teach evolution. and, when of age(13), my parents gave me a choice to be bar mitzvah'd or not. i chose not to, because it clashed with my beliefs even at that early age. i couldnt possibly go through it lying to myself. i even went through a time in my education when i went out of my way to study all the different religions. without that education, i couldnt fully consider what it was that i believed in.

and yes, i even respect those peoples beliefs that do believe in religion. and am always willing to listen, as long as there is a proper argument put up, not a bunch of finger pointing, name calling, but a argument with facts put up to support their statements.

generally, religion is a good thing. it puts people at ease and brings them comfort or support. most of our societies would be "lost" without that religious belief to hang on to, to find that faith that we all are looking for. but religion isnt fact, its a set of ideas that help you live your life, to help make your decisions, and live life the "right" way.

personally, i find no comfort in any organized religion. the organized religions were developed and run by imperfect people. this, like politics, has an issue with people wanting power for themselves. it also has an issue with starting wars(look at history, religion has killed more people than has saved lives). the way i see it, religious people should be good to other people, but too many are not this way. almost every religion argues that their followers are better than everyone else. which is not true. we are all equal, no matter if you are christian, jewish, muslim, hindi, buddhists, atheist, etc. i am not religious, but i go out of my way to do what many religious people claim to do but really dont, i try to be good to everyone, no matter of their religion, race, sexual orientation, etc. of course i am not perfect, i am only a human being.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Simms, got a reboot. Check the last-kmsg if it was kernel related. Tia! Maybe my phone needs a new kernel!? Something more evolved, something that would do 1.9, maybe 2GHz!? You got something Morfic thought you already shared with us?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9Jx5VcIWwpTYVpzSmdtdnpYMUk/edit?usp=docslist_api
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i go to that link via mobile and desktop and both say that it cant be generated, so i dont see the last_kmsg
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Ignore my email that link doesn't work either.

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I couldn't get the link to work so I emailed you the text

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I couldn't get the link to work so I emailed you the text

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I couldn't get the link to work so I emailed you the text
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
replied :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I couldn't get the link to work so I emailed you the text
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
[ * *0.071142] pm8921_probe: PMIC Restart Reason: Triggered from CHG (usb charger insertion)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Does this work with CM-based ROMs, for example crDroid? I saw on OP that CM kernels are included in the downloads link but can I flash the AOSP version?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
there are cm users here, so you should be fine. there is one kernel, not a seperate cm version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Read: jonup, quit trying to stick it in ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thedauntlessone:
I'm just going to leave these right here....

[YOUTUBE]zOfjkl-3SNE[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]PK7P7uZFf5o[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]RB3g6mXLEKk[/YOUTUBE]

nvm figured it out =D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
fixed it for you..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
3rd beer band just started at the backyard cookout. Awesomeness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Neighbors are loving that I imagine ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
what are WE having? :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Lots of beer and metal. These guys are good. Also all day smoked ribs and brisket
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
No. I don't want to tell the fools they can't vote.

Telling them to shut the hell up and go away is not silencing them at all. They are free to say what they want. What they are not free to do is put forth their nonsense on the same playing field as what has went through the academic process. They need to shut up the hell up and go away in that regards.

Your school failed you on your biology education BTW. By simply even catering to those idiots they put their nonsense on the same playing field as actual science. You don't see biology being taught in a church do you. Teach the controversy nonsense. There is no controversy and that fact that your STUPID teacher / school did what it did is exactly the problem. Catering to the stupid and ignorant hurts the entire society. You were robbed of a proper education because of it.

I fully support anybody being able to say whatever they want. No matter how stupid. But the stupid need to be called out. And don't get to have their nonsense on the same playing field as reality.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
I. Am. Jealous.

but, to make it not as painful for me, i just finished and left work :)

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im out of them, so thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Saw this house while walking down the street. Thought what the hell, the guys in the Trinity thread seem to like this number.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
So let me get this straight... You don't want to take away anyone's right but just want to be able to state that your opinions are superior and put limits on alternatives to subjects you find unworthy? Well aren't you so enlightened! Limiting the expression of a view is a limit on free speech. Maybe not as much as being barred from voting but still one.

I'll bet in many ways you were robbed of a proper education. Why? Because what is the criteria for a proper education? It's opinion.

My opinion is that I got robbed of a proper education because I was forced to waste valuable time taking political social issues based classes that limited my ability to take more math, science, and history courses. Most kids graduating high school today in the US can't even read above an eighth grade level, yet I'm sure they had to take lots of mandatory classes blaming men or whites for every ill in society, for example. This stuff doesn't end in high school though. Even most engineering degrees require at least a handful of filler junk classes before you can take upper level core classes. Also, it doesn't help that the education system tells people they can be anything they want to be and that it's all valuable, rather than attempt to steer kids into areas that are mutually beneficial to society and the person. Instead we have thousands of people paying up to the hundreds of thousands of dollars for degrees that are close to worthless. Sorry, but that gender studies degree just isn't in high demand.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lol, its me. it happens to be my luckiest of numbers. thanks :)

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no doubt the education system is unfair and broken in the united states. i got lucky, i went to a top ranked school system(sycamore school system) in the mostly mid to upper class suburbs of cincinnati. after moving to brooklyn, and seeing the school systems here that my nephew is going to/went to, i just want to scream. they are just completely diffent than i was brought up with. these kids are getting cheated out of an opportunity. the facilities lack, the education lacks, the teachers themselves lack(but i have met quite a few that really are trying, with their hands tied), the support that these kids need to get an education generally lacks. that really blows. and not only for these kids is it terrible, its terrible for us too. its our own future that is being ignored.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
My opinions are irrelevant. This example people coning back to is the creationism one but its valid for any idea

It is complete nonsense to even suggest that such a thing is a opinion in the first place. It is a fact. No more so than gravity. Or newtons law or anything else for that matter

It is not me. That is actually one of the core. It is not me deciding a thing. Our entire academic system / the scientific method and peer review has. Proposing that something with absolutely no evidence what so ever be mentioned in a science class is pure stupidity. Period.

This is how a judge a proper education. Its really very simple. To actually educate. Not spread ignorance. Like the missing link and teach the controversy nonsense. That is the opposite of education.

You or anybody else for that matter are free to propose your ideas to the academic community or the scientific community. Nobody is stopping anybody. What you don't get to do is make up some crap and object to what the brightest humans to ever live have collectively learned. That is stupid.

I am not limiting anybody's expression. What I am saying is you don't get to express your stupid views in that medium. You just don't. You go through the same process that everything else went through to get established and taught in school.

I am not sticking up for a garbage school system either. You made some nice points on many things that are wrong with it.

But a proper education is not opinion at all. You can word play all you want and use it to bash the education system and what classes you take. Back to the example that got everybody riled up. The creationism / biology one. Doing so is not a proper education. It just isn't. Its the exact opposite of educating.

There is no limit on free speech. Stop that crap. Its like saying my free speech is limited because in school they didn't teach or approve of my theory that there is a alien society on the dark side of the moon that plays tennis.

Or maybe when they teach you in school about the weather. Thor is up there etc. Teach the controversy..... Yes you shut up and sit down idiot. Its no different then bringing magic into a science class.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Hey Simms... Do you endorse any particular app to limit your start up processes or do you do it through script, command line, or something of that nature?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i use autostarts, to regulate what starts up and when. but its not perfect, so i supplement it with greenify. after fully booting up and setting up, i use the fast reboot widget to free the ram of whatever opened on boot, then press the greenify widget to hibernate whatever autostarts doesnt get(i dont set greenify to auto do it on boot, i dont set anything to auto do anything).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
All, I agree with you so much on conviction but I am so far away in principle. I was gonna put my argument in writing but this is so much easier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyoOfRog1EM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
We are talking about in a science classroom in this discussion.

Another extreme example. I support letting the WDC ( god hates church) say whatever they want. Nor do I want to silence them at all. But that doesn't mean you put their nonsense in a science class or take them serious in any way.

Another extreme example. The Holocaust deniers. Do we waste our time in history classes teaching the controversy? Do we address this nonsense in any other form of discourse? We don't see it on 60 minutes or at a debate and so on. Do we actually silence them and take away their free speech? No. But if they do say it they will be mocked LOL at , ignored, fired maybe etc.

You don't get to put your I can count to potato on the same playing field as e=mc2.

If people got a problem with evolution. Submit their whatever and have it peer reviewed etc. Until then. You don't get your magic nonsense in science and yes you shut up and be quiet it in it.

This is the type of gems these idiots produce though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This is what I on about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxexV184zs4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaperzero:
Been away for a few days. Tf4h still the latest kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
Yes, last stable release.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Search for Apollyon.

[MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION] can explain how to use it stable. Or, how to fry eggs with it. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaperzero:
Cool. Found it. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
You guys "figthing" about education system is very funny. If you come to Brazil, then you'll find a very fail education system and going to cry on the side walk.

Sometimes you have luck to find a good public school and complete your education by doing english studing, like I did.... :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Can we do what Sir Robinson describes? Win win win.

Can we not? Continue to epically fail by N O T educating our children the way they should be educated.

Do take the ~ 20 minutes to watch it. Simply amazing..

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I will watch that today. Having family breakfast time now.

We decided before we even had our first child that we would not put her education in the hands of the government. Private school or home school, although many states (NY, and CA) are making homeschooling a very difficult choice.

gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Best decision, I hope it will work out!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah the public schools here get paid on a per child basis. So its in their best interest to pack the place with as many children as possible.

gplus.to/hartley add me, let's play some games.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Oh man the first video is hilarious! Is that guy for real or his mocking? I've seen the second one but I watched it anyways. And dah, creation has no place in a science class. It is SCIENCE class.

What I have problem with is labeling someone stupid and not listeno to what they have to say. If you watch my video, it goes to say that you should actually listen to greatest fool, because whatever (s)he has to say must have taken them some time and effort to come up with. I can spent a how day listening to you and Simms telling me that we evolved from monkeys, but I already learned that. But it is much more fascinating listening to Love Jesus next to me. What he has to say is something that I didn't have the capacity to come up with. He is enriching what I know even he is proving what I know is correct.

e=mc2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B34XmATePQQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Wow how many serious and "challenging" posts here.

I didn't slept tonight because I went to a party but when I was to the beach I remembered [MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION] and then I decided to take this picture of this bella donna for him (and for [MENTION=244773]Vangelis[/MENTION] too) :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
It's true.

I think our friends in the first world have no idea about the public services here in Brazil specially the education and health.

If we compare you are in paradise. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I went to school in the developing world and while the actual schools were crab, I could tell the difference between my high school education and the majority of other kids I went to college with here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Madonna Mia..!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] edwardeutsch:
Ahahah Madonna Mia!

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Oh we are well aware of how well we have it in this country. And while to the others it might sound like we are being entitled and we should be grateful for what we have. We are grateful, very very grateful. But this constant desire to be better is, IMO, one of the reasons the country is great.

"The American dream, that has lured tens of millions of all nations to our shores in the past century has not been a dream of merely material plenty, though that has doubtlessly counted heavily. It has been much more than that. It has been a dream of being able to grow to fullest development as man and woman, unhampered by the barriers which had slowly been erected in the older civilizations, unrepressed by social orders which had developed for the benefit of classes rather than for the simple human being of any and every class."

--James Truslow Adams

Edit: I know you both used quotations when referring to us as fighting and challenging. But for the most part I think we are being pretty civil here. A little long winded, but civil none the less. I just wanted to take the fully endorsed Offtopic subjects to a new level than photos and memes. And honestly, I think it's going well. We haven't enacted Godwin's law once. I even mention Hitler once in one of my earlier posts just to see if I could plant the seed of thought out there.

:)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Ahaahhahahahah, exactly :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I was going to add my grain of sand to the religious/science flame, but dat ass melted my mind. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
He is real. Very real. He recently made a movie....

I have no problem labeling him or people stupid.

Sure I and we all listen to what they say and then we come to conclusion of. Hey shut up stupid. Actually though the one group of folks who actually don't listen at all are the die hard core creationist. They stick their fingers in their ears and go nahnahanahaha.

And we didn't evolve from monkeys. If you already learned that we did. Oh dear.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah, the ones that truly bother me are the ones that say the earth is 5000 years old. But I decided to bring them up AFTER our discussion ;)

And still not sure if they would be stupid. They are most likely stupid..

Stupid is a condition you can not change. Someone with a 75IQ is stupid. A mentally handicapped person is stupid. Ignorance can be changed. You can educate an ignorant person.

Some of these people are so ingrained into their faith, they might actually be "stupid". ;)

Edit: I just noticed your evolve from monkey line.

My wife's major in college was anthropology. (However, she went back later to school through a 2 year biotech program. Because an anthropology degree is pretty worthless, even with her minoring in criminology.) She is constantly correcting me when I call an ape a monkey.

"Yeah, yeah, monkeys have tails."

"Well then say it right!"

We know the difference. Its a common misnomer to refer to all primates as monkeys. ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
we didnt evolve from monkeys, dont think that, its not true. while monkeys(both new and old world monkeys, yes they are also different) are also primates, they are too far down the line from us. we evolved from a common ancestor of us and chimpanzees(chimps arent monkeys either). bonobos chimpanzees are our closest living relatives(they are the only other animal besides us that have sex not just to reproduce, but just for pleasure). we evolved from the hominidae family, which includes great apes. there were many other hominids that came after that, including Australopithecus, which our homo(dont laugh :p ) family came from eventually. at times, there were more than one species of hominids that were living at the same time, and there were even more than one homo family living at the same time in many parts of our history. they all eventually died off leaving only us, homo sapiens.

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not all monkeys have tails. ask your wife again. there are old world and new world monkeys, which are related, but different. i studied anthropology for a while as well, physical. i wanted to be a paleontologist :)