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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kylealanr:
Cache & Dalvik Wipe

Might be a dumb question, but the latest stable build says not to wipe the cache and dalvik when flashing, does this cause any problems?

I know wiping has nothing to do with the kernel and I wouldn't wipe it when flashing anyways, but does this preclude me from wiping for ROM related reasons?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
theres an issue in 4.3 where wiping dalvik cause a custom kernel not to boot up. its actually when the dalvik gets rebuilt, it can/will freeze up. simply force rebooting one or twice will get the dalvik to finish rebuilding, then itll boot. the warning is to not freak out the inexperienced of they do wipe their dalvik. basically, if you flash it with the rom, itll need to get force rebooted a few times. but if you flash it after the rom flash and bootup, itll be fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
It always booted fine for me, just would seem to freeze at some point when upgrading apps but leaving it alone always eventually worked.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
eventually :p

i think force rebooting the phone might be faster. but really it would depend on how many apps you have installed. if only a few apps, it could boot the first time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Still employed, but who knows what's going to happen in the coming weeks. Our LA office is comprised of 3 people, and one of them is getting the boot next week. Our concern is that the company might not think it's worth the trouble of having an office down here (HQ is in San Fran).

The joys of working at a startup. :eek:

Also, username change for security reasons. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Anyone compared 2/2 cores @ 1ghz max vs. 2/4 cores @ 1,5ghz max regarding smoothness and battery life?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Kept my word Simms 22. Matched
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] S2Powa:
stock settings? :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I'm sorry I'm not with trinity but slimbean and purified kernel. Jut turned off fsync and browsed every single possible setting in every app to optimize the app. System settings and trickster mostly

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I favor battery over look and feel / features. Some people say I'm making my phone a dumb phone but I don't care

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I favor battery over look and feel / features. Some people say I'm making my phone a dumb phone but I don't care

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Sorry for the double post

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I favor battery over look and feel / features. Some people say I'm making my phone a dumb phone but I don't care

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Sorry for the double post

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I favor battery over look and feel / features. Some people say I'm making my phone a dumb phone but I don't care

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Sorry for the double post

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Sorry for the double post
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
:eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
damn ^^^ :eek:

i dont favor battery over everything else. but i do get rid of/disable everything i dont need or use, or anything that misbehaves on me. making a "dumbphone" isnt interesting to me. i just want what i want, everthing else is useless to me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Quantum physics that I don't understand.

But this is an amplituhedron.

By Andy Gilmore
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Cool name for the next Trinity kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
the monsters come out at night..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
dont ever say that i never gave you guys anything, from burning man :p http://vimeo.com/54254952
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Had one of this yesterday on the house wall! A really big one, I was amazed :D

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4

BTT: Flashed the kernel last evening. A few minutes ago I had the first reboot. Logs attached
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
What do you think guys about CyanogenMod going commercial as Cyanogen Inc? Although I like the idea of Cyanogen as a stock OEM layer, the fact that many contributors' work is going to be "stolen" really sucks. But they provided so much for the community that it's hard to feel rage against them. I just hope that all the contributors left aside can find a place in other roma.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
last_kmsg is incomplete, but it gives watchdog dor the last boot up reason. looks like your phone derped, then decided to shut dowm/reboot just to be safe. why it derped i dont see a reason.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Too bad I'm out of thanks for today ;)

I wasn't doing any benchmarks or games so that the phone could have shutdown because of heat. Also no phone call, changing wifi, .. I just opened Google Search and searched for sth.

Phone was on 2/4 cores with 1,5ghz max. Will try with stock settings
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
2/4 shouldnt have any affect. i run 2/2, and when not running 2/2, i run 4/4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
No effect for what exactly?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Hi guys!

I passed my "B1 level english test"; I feel compelled to thank you all for your help and your advices.

I know that I am off topic but I have nothing to say about the kernel, as always it's perfect :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i meant shouldnt cause reboots..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Ah, okay. I thought it might have been the hotplugging
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
but this beast can cause "reboots" for some, for some. out of fear ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
No surprise my phone felt in danger. It looks so angry! :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Well done young man!! :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Had one of those right now while writing a sms.

For no reason it does it from time to time.

One weird thing is the empty last_kmsg after the reboot. In my case the "last boot reason" is aways reboot

Anyway, despite that and those glitches on JWR, it is very good indeed running with 2 cores.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
maybe its the keyboard freeze thingy that is making the phone freak and reboot? it would explain a lot, a few unfortunate souls are having the same issue(not just trinity), while others are just getting a few second freeze.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I'm using PA 3.99.1 at the moment and yes, had same issue with semaphore 1.6.5... Tried to revert to 1.6.0 and the issue did not show up, I really dont like the way android 4.3 was "thrown" to us.

Very faulty and bugged...

I'll try 4.3 previous trinity version and see how it goes.

Sometimes I really, really think about to restore my 4.2.2 backup + trinity full of stuff...eheheheh :victory:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i kinda like 4.3 better, even with the keyboard freezes :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
And in fairness.....4.3 isnt the issue. JSS (not for Mako) is. Now, why Google is releasing all the separate versions is another topic entirely and is definitely cause for criticism.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Mh..I don't think so. I got some deadlocks in the past, they never were related with reboots. The amount of deadlocks hugely improved with new branches. Trinity is still based on "old" JSS branch, so I experience more deadlocks here than e.g. on stock.

When I got the mentioned reboot with trinity, keyboard wasn't opened at all (although deadlocks don't only occure when typing).

The deadlocks should be nearly gone when updating to r3/r3.1 (it was never a big issue for me, anyway).

There is so much negative in the lasts posts, that I have to underline the awsomeness of this kernel. Especially battery life can't be beaten :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
wait, i missed something in your statement.. youre an rc now? :p

congrats! :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Despite audio quality on bluetooth, I really dont see any better things on 4.3.

Specially that I "lost" Trinity, which I use since my old Gnex.

[MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] I'd like to understand why 2 builds and why this JSS end up on Mako.

Tks you both.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
see, now i dont see it as negative. it is just what it is, and it happens to be the truth. we know the issue isnt with trinity, that its with aosp android 4.3, but we still try to help. and yes, trinity remains awesome, and battery life just reflects the awesomeness of the kernel :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Thanks.....high standard to live up to now. :)

Why 2 builds? (Is more like 4-5 now) no idea at all. Google has never made device specific builds in AOSP that I can remember. As to how JSS ended up on Mako? Easy....it was he newer of the 2 builds and everyone (rightly) assumed it would be ok. So many dev's released Roms based on it before the issue was discovered and tracked down. PA was the first to change back and many of us have followed since.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Agreed, Trinity has nothing to do with this crap JSS stuff.

And now those reboots with no reason.... :crying:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
when did the reboots start happening for you? and when do they happen? or are they completelyrandom? is there anything that could tie the rebiots to a certain activity or app?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
when did the reboots start happening for you? I dont remember exactly, but I think last weekend

and when do they happen? or are they completelyrandom? They are random, the phone can be in use or idle or calling...

is there anything that could tie the rebiots to a certain activity or app? no, didnt notice any app that can trigger it, in fact its the same apps that I used to use

Next time it happens, I'll get a last_kmsg just for the record, but I think it will be useless... :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
maybe the next time the last_kmsg will be useful.

btw, there a way to get last_kmsg if you flash a kernel and it doesnt boot, but does reboot. you can use twrp to go to /proc/last_kmsg/ and move it to somewhere in your storage, before flashing a good kernel :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Tks, didnt have this kind of issue yet, but is a good tip.

I was looking into a logcat (thru logcat extreme, very good btw) and it shows a ton of errors... dont know if this can help.

Let me know. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
Does this kernel automatically online 3rd and 4th core if cpu load ramps up? Tia

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Can i use touch control on this kernel? If yes, what module should i select?

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Can i use touch control on this kernel? If yes, what module should i select?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
1. by default, the kernel uses 2 corez max and min. if you change it to use 4 corez max, then it will hotplug, itll online 3 and 4 cores when needed.

2. you need to ask in the touch control thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
How do i change it to onlie all 4 if the load increase? And is it the mo recent nightly in the op? If not can you provide me a link? Thanks a lot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
to change how many cores, use a root file explorer and go to /sys/module/auto_hitplug/parameters/ then change max online cpu and min online cpu to whatever you want and save it. and which kernel are you talking about? last release kernel is tf4h(on the website), and the lastvtest kernel is apollyon wwz. you should probably go with tf4h, its at www.derkernel.com
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
Thanks! Im using the newest.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Simms, my friend.

Just had a reboot when I finished the call.

Here is the last_kmsg.

http://db.tt/msOxNPDO

One question: Either a soft or a hard reboot writes things on this file?

Tks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Jss has freezes on flo as well. Its not just the mako.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
1st Ive ever heard that....interesting.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
hard reboots produce last_kmsg. a soft reboot isnt a reboot, nothing gets reset, it uses your same setup as before the soft reboot. i get them at high cpu speeds when benchmarking occasionally, then after the soft reboot ill boot up at 1836 or 1944. btw, didnt see anything helpful in the last_kmsg

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what changed last weekend? new app? app updates? new rom/updated rom? changed last weekend? new app? app updates? new rom/updated rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I told you, last_kmsg isnt leading to anything.

I was using Carbon nightly, then it started.

I switched to PA... No good to.

Lemme search what apps got updated and I'll return it to you.

Tks for now

Edit: Nova got updated on 17th, but it was happening before, though.

Really have nothing here.... I'll flash the version from derkernel.com and see
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if you get a chance, try an aosp rom that doesnt have much cm code in it. check if you still get reboots(im curious). someone asked me last week about reboots and carbon nightlies..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Have any tip of rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
rasbean or psx. i have been using both roms without issue. rasbean will have less cm code in it(i think), where psx has a few more options added to it. currently using the latest rasbean :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Do you get deadlocks? I was kinda eh about em and ignored them, but now they're just all over the place.

at least ten this evening and another one while typing this. I really do wonder what I'm doing wrong.

Sent speedily from my scurrying Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
What ROM did you switch too? They vary from define to device and kernel to kernel.

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i get them, but not as often as others, about 2-4 every 2-3 days. except one day last week, using psx(sorry [MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] ), i had like 10 within a day. but it was only that one day. psx is like rasbean for me normally, 2-4 every 2-3 days.

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and user to user, day to day ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
streak of bad luck I guess. :o

other than that, I'm perfectly happy with trinity as well as rasbean. Thanks. :)

oh and by the way, PSX rebased by now.

Sent speedily from my scurrying Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yea, i know. last rasbean wouldnt boot when dirty flashed over psx. but no, i didnt wipe anything still, i restored a rasbean nandroid then updated :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Totally unrelated, but what do you think of Google ditching holo blue?

I'm hopin it ain't true

Sent speedily from my scurrying Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I was using Carbon once and spend 2 days without a single lock. Then, one beautiful day while writing a tweet to Simms, got 3 in a row.

Hehehhe...

OT: I really want one of these.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/android-kitkat-android-4.4-release-date,24322.html#xtor=RSS-999

:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well, i kinda like the holo blue, but.. it is time for a change i guess. the gray might grow on me though. our only hope for the blue is that the screenie with the gray signal bars floating around is just that they arent connected to googles services. but that might be just a stretch.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Not being connected to google is a bit darker methinks. Also, the clock should be blue as well.

I just hope there'll be a zip for holo blue.

Sent speedily from my scurrying Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Teadious:
That isn't it, since the battery is also grey, and that stays holo blue like always. Also, I can't remember which app it was, but it also showed white or grey icons and nobody noticed it seems . .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
All I really want is a N5 plus a box of Kitkat.:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I'd rather use a iPhone than CM
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Apple here is the fruit only.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i wouldnt go that far. with as much as i used to push cm onto people in the early days, i would be very unhappy running cm as cm is right now(not saying the rom is terrible, more of a personal thing for me/dissatisfaction concerning cm and their ways of operation/policies). but id still much rather run cm than anything apple, even if the iphone was better overall.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I hear ya and I agree for the most part I would never buy a iPhone in reality. But in a alternate reality with only iPhone and CM I'd rather have the iPhone. I simply will not give cm a single penny. While I feel the same way about Apple, cm urks me even more.

Taking a huge open source product and making it incorporated.... Stuff like the focal gpl licsense stuff..... The select few higher ups of cm now working for cm Inc while the vast majority of contributers maintainers....

Hey just contribute code under gpl.. We then cross license and sell it / work with Oppo and make money off it. The way they refer to the "other roms" etc. To me I just feel screw them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yea, cm and oppo are going to announce their partnership next week. and i do know why cm so irks you, because its why it irks me, its because you care about the spirit of android.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
There was something done recently (~5 years) that was practically the same thing. Open source project forks, goes closed sourced, sells forked project while pretty much abandoning and not supporting the OSS version.

I cannot for the life of me remember what this was. Anyone out there remember?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
Is this normal that gpu is always at 320? Even with cpu at min it stays there but whenever cpu ramps up it sometimes go down to 128.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Tonights nightly reading.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
crossing the footbridge
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Only read a bit and had enough.

There is no way of breaking the laws of physics. Only way we would ever get visitors or visit anywhere ourselves is a worm hole / finding a way around space time etc.

To dismiss or suggest there isn't life / intelligent life ( who the hell are we to determine what is intelligent life in the first place?) Because we haven't been visited by anything is just frankly stupid I stop listening / reading right there.

Even if something could break all the laws of physics and go where they wanted. How self important are some folks to think that a life form capable of that would care about our tiny star / solar system in a quiet part of the milky way which has what 400billion stars? Forget all the other billions of Galaxy's and their stars / planets.

They would probably look at us the same way we look ( not look ) at a slug slugging down the pavement
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
[MENTION=2986645]albundy2010[/MENTION]

You didn't read far enough. All of your points and more are explained.

Fermi wasn't dismissing or denying, he was simply asking the question of where are they? His theory was that statistics proved that they exist, and we should have been visited/explored many times over since pretty much forever.

Some of the possible solutions:

-The Zoo Hypothesis (think the prime directive from star trek)

-We aren't technically advanced enough to visually see proof of their existence.

-The Great Filter. 9 evolutionary steps, starting with a star and ending with colonization explosion. It admits the list might be incomplete and/or one step might be what makes us rare.

-Your point of what "intelligent" life is. It's mostly used referring to civilizations with space travel, but they use the example of dolphins in a water world, without the physical abilities to manipulate steel and use fire. Intelligence might be common but industrialization might be rare.

-It might be "natural" of a technological civilization to destroy itself. "Possible means of annihilation include nuclear war, biological warfare or accidental contamination, climate change, nanotechnological catastrophe, ill-advised physics experiments, a badly programmed super-intelligence, or a Malthusian catastrophe after the deterioration of a planet's ecosphere."

-It might be "natural" for intelligent life to destroy others(Read: Technological singularity)

-As you said in other words, we are "in the sticks" as far as the galaxy is concerned, and not near the "metropolis" of the center cluster of the milky way.

-The multiverse theory, where in any given universe there is one civilization.

There's many more, but this post is getting too long. Like most Wikipedia articles this was just a starting point to reading much further. By the end of reading the Fermi Paradox, I had about 10 tabs open and spent about 2 hours reading it and other pages.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
But that's still all based on the silly idea of how come they ain't come here?

There is places in our own backyard ( our solar system) that may actually be able to support a life form and yet we haven't managed to search there.

I didnt / don't watch star trek or was it track. So that point about it..