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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] itsmikeramsay:
Just wait folks... LiquidSmooth has got one hell of an update in store!! :D I'll be maintaining the new LiquidSmooth thread soon enough... I'll be helping Liquid out with furthering development even more.... Illusion is gonna be my side chick for now lol
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] wcoast:
Pretty nice of you mate, that's called luv for the community
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] prbassplayer:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dzovicek:
Hello,

I have Samsung Galaxy Ch@t and I'm trying to root it. Tried many one-click sw's and scripts but figured out that problem is with busybox component, which most of these tools are using - it says mount: permission denied ...

Does anybody know how to deal with it? :( Thanks a lot in advance...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jerkyboy:
I'd greatly appreciate it if someone could provide assistance on how I can disable the start up and shut down tones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ainen:
You could try using this app and see if it works.

If you're rooted you can go to "system/media/audio/ui" and rename "PowerOn.ogg" to "PowerOn.ogg.bak".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jerkyboy:
I am rooted but I can't seem to figure out how to get to "system." I downloaded es filemanager and don't see it, how do I get into that folder to make the changes? Also, I want to shut off the tone on shutdown too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cyrano821:
I'm assuming it's the att logo? You'll have better customization, like changing boot screen too, if you load cleanrom. I just made the switch
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Skwerl23:
Im guessing changing or editing the startup file will do it. Bootanimation. Zip is what custom roms use

Anyhow I notice mine is silent when my phone is on silent. So if you need temporary silence (night time) then put your phone on vibrate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jerkyboy:
So I figured out how to get into the system files. Do I now need to hook up the phone to my computer or can I go in through the phone via es file manager and make the change? I read somewhere that the phone needs to be "mounted" but I don't know what that means so I'm hesitant to attempt making changes without being sure of what I'm doing. Can you suggest a link with good instruction or is it something you can explain?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] etrustin:
It works great for my phone. Thanks
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SyLvEsTeR20007:
Hello all

I have a bit of a small problem. I like to run my phone using the Performance Governor but after a while it goes to 1Ghz on all 4 cores despite me running it at 1.8Ghz. Setting it back seems to correct the issue but in time it goes down again.

I believe it is getting a bit warm and thus it hits a limit and the system auto slows to 1Ghz.

Can anyone confirm this behaviour? It never happened to me before but I have had a few kernel updates and updates to the Omega ROM that could be the cause but I am not sure. Is there a setting where I can tell my phone what temps to throttle at?

Also, I assume all this is down to the Kernel and not the ROMs?

Would like some imput regards where to start my search to return my phone to its previous state as a pocket heater.

Many Thanks

Syl
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4fseeker:
Don't use it. Pegasusq is the only one really working for multi-core CPU's with hotplugging and so on.

1.8Ghz is not healthy for the CPU in the long run and will cause overheating which is exactly what you are currently seeing.

Especially since you keep the phone on 100% CPU power all the time (performance governor) which should drain battery like hell as a side effect.

This is down to your settings. Neither rom nor kernel.

- Don't overclock (much)

-Use a good kernel such as Siyah

-Undervolt if the phone remains stable

-Use pegasusq Governor

-Enjoy
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SyLvEsTeR20007:
Hi buddy and thanks for your response.

I am not sure about what you said regarding it working correctly, it gets the best results for any benchmark compared to others so I would be interested in more detail about the specifics of how its not working correctly as I have never been told that. It would be appreciated.

I dont mind the battery drain although I do heed your warning about about longevity of the CPU.

I have been using Siyah Kernel for some time now and I find undervolting a little unstable, for now I am forced to use pegasusq.

Can you or anyone else answer the original question as I still wish to pursue this to a resolve other than not using it.

Many thanks for your time and efforts non the less!

Syl
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmgg2k:
it´s samsung´s based roms related: when the battery temp hits 41C the cpu will throttle. Nothing related with de cpu temp (can be at 80C before throttles).

try CM10.1 and you´ll see what im talking about.

We need a solution for this throttling with samsung based roms
[HTC One X] bullx:
i really wanna know:

i got 1,5 ghz processor + Graphic Card (4+1)

i got design

i got beats

i got sense

S3 got:

1,4 ghz processor

Amoled...

Touchwiz :P

Battery ( 2200 mAh) with low energy usage Cpu

İ see benchmark points pass the S3 when JB comes

5 min ago i installed geekbench 2

my phone get 1300 benchmark points (power saving off) but s3 got 1700 -.-

its one of most important thing for me: HAVE BETTER PROCESSOR THEN S3

can anyone explain to me HOX have better cpu or not?

and what about iphone 5? is it beat hox too? with dual core??
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
This thread will be closed.

The HOX and S3 are basically on a par with each other. However the S3 just edges out the HOX for a few different reasons. First, most software needs further optimising for Tegra devices and secondly because the S3 doesn't have the S-On/S-Off problem.

It's worth noting that the HOX is closer in terms of following Google's phone design guidelines (no menu button) and also that the screen is better.
[HTC One X] Traniz:
The Tegra3 version of HOX has a slower CPU than it's dual core version.

It's like comparing a Q8200 with a E8600 and then run dual core optimized programs.
[HTC One X] bullx:
Hmmm thx for explain :)
[HTC One X] CHEVYbarracuda1:
Bassicaly there isnt much of a big difference.. Exynos is a bit faster(effective)than tegra 3.. So s3 has worse screen while htc has better.. S3 has amoled display while htc has only lcd display.. But they r kinda same.. Used both phone sense is good but still wud go for touchwiz.. Lack of toggles in notification menu rly bugs me.. (There r no official htc toggles there r just play stores one)..It is just my opinion
[HTC One X] Headless96:
I have the One X but I think the S3 is better overall

The S3 has a faster processor, smoother gaming and UI, better quality camera, touchwiz features (pop up play, multi-window, smart rotation) and most importantly a great XDA thread

However the HOX does have a much better (& sturdier) design, better screen, THD games support, Beats audio
[HTC One X] CHEVYbarracuda1:
Regarding to beats.. Ok so when the driver is on the sound is just amazing it blows any other phone when it comes to that..But,but,but i think that they demolished sound when u play music without beats drivers just so u can say that the difference is sooo big.. And it is a good marketing trick gotta admit that.
[HTC One X] pandaball:
The amount of stupidity in this thread is unbelievable...

The S3 beats the Tegra 3 even though it has a slightly slower clock speed for a few reasons, mainly because the Exynos chip in the S3 is a 32nm chip as compared to the Tegra 3's 40nm process, so the Exynos is somewhat more efficient due to the smaller process. Also, blame Nvidia for crappy software optimisation. Furthermore, the Mali 400 chip in the S3 is far more powerful than the puny Tegra 3 ULP Geforce chip. Don't say more cores = more power, that is not true. Besides, the S4 in the HOXL is more powerful than the Tegra 3 because the S4 has the Cortex A15 architecture which gives about 40% more processing power per core against the Cortex A9. The comparison of a dual core CPU and a quad core CPU using a dual core optimised software I saw somewhere above in this thread means nothing in ARM terms. The Cortex A9 (for example Tegra 3) uses all 4 cores and loses against the Snapdragon S4, say the MSM8960 which the HOXL has.

All other discussions about S3 and HOX w.r.t. features (touchwiz is a feature?!) should be reserved for other threads.
[HTC One X] XxVcVxX:
The amount of stupidity in this is ridiculous.

Snapdragon S4 doesn't use Cortex A15, it uses Krait cores.

Furthermore, the S4 beats Tegra 3 because at the time benchmark reviews came out, most of them were optimized for dual core, the T3 beats S4 in terms of raw power, of course software will do its part.

Mali-400 doesn't really beat the GeForce. Its running in 16 bit mode, and its vertex limited. Sure it has a good fillrate, but it cannot rim vertex heavy games.

GeForce ULP runs in 32 bit, and is pixel limited, which basically means its a draw, but when you factor in THD games, GeForce wins.

Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
[HTC One X] pandaball:
I facepalmed. Especially at the very first statement. What architecture does Krait use, I wonder.

As for S4 not beating Tegra, S4 came out *after* Tegra 3. You'd think benchmarks would be optimised for quad cores before they became optimised for Cortex A15.

As for the last one, you forgot that ULP Geforce is not superscalar. The GPU cores have to wait for the first instruction to complete before the next one can process, making the process slow as hell. Mali is far more powerful than Tegra (just look at benchmarks), because the GPU cores are far beefier than the Tegra GPU cores, and also because ULP Geforce is based on Fermi cores which are a bit old and slow at this point.
[HTC One X] XxVcVxX:
Read on Wikipedia more. Krait isn't Cortex A15.

Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
[HTC One X] pandaball:
Its A15 plus Qualcomm enhancements...
[HTC One X] XxVcVxX:
Krait is a custom architecture made by Qualcomm. Its similar to A15, but its not A15, and performance sits between A9 and A15, bit its more power efficient than A15.

Its like Scorpion, where the performance was between A8 and A9.

As for GeForce ULP running with Fermi, you're wrong. Its definitely not Fermi since it still has seperate vertex and pixel cores, so its even before GT200.

Mali-400 is old, and its not beefier than GeForce. Samsung made it up to par by overclocking extensively and forcing 16 bit rendering on the thing. It ****s on GeForce on pixel fill rate, but GeForce ****s on it on vertex output, so its kinda a draw.

Most games run smoother on Mali because most applications on Play Store is optimized for the biggest phone company : Samsung. You can see how Gameloft downright ignored Tegra.

EDIT: The ULP is using NV47

Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
[HTC One X] pandaball:
To use slightly crude terms, Qualcomm licensed A15 from ARM, then beat it with sticks until it became more optimised. Qualcomm has a slightly different license from ARM which allows them to take the design by ARM, beat it into shape then sell it.

As for Fermi in Tegra, I was mistaken. I didn't refer to anything, and my offhand memory sucks.

For Mali vs Tegra, refer to this: http://m.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_s4_pro_benchmarked_crushes_older_chipsets-news-4563.php. Look at the benchmark list, particularly GLbenchmark offscreen since its the most relevant.
[HTC One X] XxVcVxX:
Its offscreen test, as I have stated before, GeForce is pixel limited, at HD resolutions, it becomes less than Mali, however remember Mali is running at 16 bit.

Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
[HTC One X] nashshafrulrezza:
XxVcVxX is right.. we have discuss about this in hamdir thread for a long time and if s3 is running 32bit like us.. it just the same as ours..

BTW.. both phone have pros and cons.. so just choose any we,you,he or her like..
[HTC One X] pandaball:
In offscreen 720p, Mali still (overall) eats Tegra, although what you said is correct, which makes me wrong. Therefore, I accept defeat and bestow my RD status to you :P
[HTC One X] XxVcVxX:
Lol wut.

I accept this honor, and I thank my friends and family for supporting me, and most of all, I thank pandaball for arguing with me XDXD:D:p

Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
[HTC One X] pandaball:
But seriously, thanks. I learnt something, although losing to a stranger in an argument online on my birthday is totally the best way to start my year :D
[HTC One X] XxVcVxX:
Hell, if I knew you were RD I wouldn't be so aggressive xD

Damned mobile app.

Happy Birthday :D

Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
[HTC One X] andy1969:
I think its stupid there both quad core there both amazing phones,do I care if the Samsung s3 is 0.001 quicker no not a jot are u going to really notice,its all about prefrence I prefer sense others may prefer touchwiz.

I see no reason to get an s3 as my hox does all I need and wouldn't notice any difference in performance,for me its about the quality of the handset build and for me hox wins hands down over the s3.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Happy birthday to Pandaball
[HTC One X] maxilick:
Bottom line, both are good phones.. We have an S3 in the house, for me the HOX feels more of a solid phone and the display is marginally better. Both phones are more than fast enough for gaming/general use.

Sent from...... The Milky Way
[HTC One X] pandaball:
Don't take the RD status too seriously, it's not as if it's something to demand respect for. Flame on :D

Besides, I'm just a 17 year old guy who reads too much tech stuff and too little school stuff :P

Anyway, hopefully this little discussion/argument (which I lost) helps the OP :)

Finally, thanks for the birthday wishes :D
[HTC One X] gigis50:
HOX has SLCD IPS display...AMOLED is wack, only good for lower power consumption... TouchWiz is uglier than stock Android, you can't compare it to Sense. That's why it "performs faster" (not my opinion, but that's what they say) because it's almost like stock, but uglier. As in CPU perfomance they're somewhat the same :) HOX has the best display on the market - said many/most reviewers of the internet :)

As for benchmarks, i recently watched a review, i don't remember what vs what, but as the review said, benchmarks ar totally irrelevant. He benchmarked it twice and the results were different, as in VERY DIFFERENT! benchmarks are for geeks :)
[HTC One X] CHEVYbarracuda1:
As u said now i see hate regarding to s3.. God damn they r both android for ***** sake.. Cmon i only see this type of hate between ios and android fanboys...They r both great phones..Nuff said.
[HTC One X] fez vrasta:
I think one of the most important things HOX has it's the resistence of materials. Not the horrible Samsung plastic.
[HTC One X] niksssss:
Well I admit that the s3 has more optimised games but its all about opinion. I really dislike touchwiz and I totaly love sense. Also I personally find the s3 ugly and the build materials feel cheap. When I hold and see the s3 I just can't say that its a high end expensive device. Otherwise they are kind of the same devices. But there is a problem with the hox too. The battery is non removeable and I can't carry another one with me.
[HTC One X] fridgie:
I have both the hox and S3 lte, both great phones, both do what I need them to do, S3 is a bit snappier in general use (2GB ram helps ;) ) hox screen is far better the S3 is far too sensitive by comparison and struggle to see in sunlight. S3 seems to last longer during daily use for battery life.

Still, I hate touchwiz compared to sense, unable to change dock icons on S3 and I think the hox camera is far better than my s3. Don't get me wrong, I love my s3, I just love my hox more :D
[HTC One X] bobby_sucker:
according to benchmarks, snapdragon is faster, but who can really see it in real life?

the most important is the screen, and here HOX is unbeatable
[HTC One X] iranwz:
One X beats s3 in all benchmarks after JB update.

GSMARENA:

http://m.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_for_htc_one_x_boosts_performance-news-5010.php
[HTC One X] treebill:
Love on the last test sneaking an iPhone in :)
[HTC One X] iranwz:
Iphone ios features are weaker. Its a lighter os than Android and gets higher score in benchmarks.
[HTC One X] gigis50:
They are both great phones, but this is a thread about HOX vs S3. So as the owner of the thread wrote down his opinion and observations about both devices i did the same :)

PS i own a HOX and played around with the S3 very often and i can state such thoughts.
[HTC One X] iranwz:
Yes. I agree with you.

S3 looks horrible.
[HTC One X] ViktorN:
I think that the S3 is just as good as the One X and that in the end it comes down to personal preference. They have almost identical specs. And it's obvious which one we chose :D
[HTC One X] fridgie:
Yep, I chose both :cool:

Is weird changing between them, my one x was gone for just over a month for repairs, just got used to the S3 and have now half forgotten how to use the hox :confused:

Need to get some time to set it back up and use it again....
[HTC One X] gigis50:
repairs? you must be one of the few with such a bad luck
[HTC One X] maxilick:
Great post, couldn't have said it better.

Sent from...... The Milky Way
[HTC One X] jontra_1:
sunspider is a browser based benchmark written in Javascript. Performance depends mostly on browser optimisation. With dolphin or Opera you get different (mostly lower) scores. Safari (ios) is known to be fast and well optimised for the iPhone cpus. Chrome has to consider different plattforms and cannot be optimised for one cpu in special. IOS or Andoid features do not effect those scores. HOX(+) dominates this benchmark despite of it's heavy sense UI. In the end you can conclude that since JB Tegra cores are well optimised for internet browsing. HOX+ dominating this benchmark. What might have happened, if HTC had optimised their kernel/ROM right from the beginning...
[HTC One X] BenPope:
I take it you've never looked at the about screen in Chrome, then.

Mine is built for the One X. The play store allows you to access a fair bit of information about the device to select which build you offer up for download on a particular device.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
HOX beats S3 then it got arrested by cops.
[HTC One X] andy1969:
Benchmark this benchmark that I don't care if the s3 is 0.0001 quicker or the hox is.

The hox has a quality feel about it and looks amazing.

The s3 build quality is inferior in every department.

Now we get to the operating system's touchwiz v sense.....sense wins handsdown since the jb update its so smooth.
[HTC One X] Mr_S:
Which is how they get away with selling the s3 mini
[HTC One X] fridgie:
So far had 2 motherboards, 2 batteries, new screen.... Last time sent away overheated on return and was sent straight back, gone for 6 weeks total.

My S3 hasn't had any problems (yet) but just doesn't seem to feel close to my hox. Screen is horrible in bright light.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
Yes, totally! These forums aren't flooded with people with hardware problems.
[HTC One X] sabret00the:
The T3 is actually the least popular of the major chips and given some of its unique ways of achieving some tasks, it requires additional optimisation. That's why you get THD versions, simply because the performance sucks on the generic version. Currently I feel any of us HOX owners would be fools to buy another device that ships with a Tegra chip at its core.
[HTC One X] Baldilocks:
You can change the dock icons.
[HTC One X] Baldilocks:
Personally I hate Sense on my HOX. Nova Launcher is about as good as I can do because every stock Android ROM drains the battery way too fast.

I DO prefer the more stock look with my GS3 running Nova Launcher.

Day to day though, the build & screen quality of my HOX wins out.
[HTC One X] Marco_El_Wray:
I think there is enough video comparatives between the S3 and the HOX to reach the same conclusion: two excellents devices, after that it's a matter of taste :good: There are both good devices to me, I tried an S3 but I hate Samsung (friends of mine and myself had issues on this brand), so I choosed the HTC.
[HTC One X] BlueSingA:
I'm not sure whether my opinion is biased or not (although you could tell that it probably is since I own One X), but for me personally (and in the end that's all that matters to me) it is far better than S3, I guess mostly because what other people think are cons, it's pros for me.. I LOVE the fact that the battery is not removable, I love the fact that there's not an SD card slot, it all improves HTC One X aesthetics. Sure, the battery is weak and the fact that it's not removable doesn't concern me.. it lasts long enough for my needs and if I need to take a trip I'll take a charger with me, and might even consider buying a wireless one should I go somewhere not so suitable to charge it up normally. It's not the thinnest phone, it's not the most compact phone probably, but I think it's the best looking phone. As far as its performance goes, I don't have a single complaint about that either - I don't like touchwiz, I have all that I need, and if I'm not wrong, the performance is rather similar if not better after the JB update.

I think they have used the same materials to build One X and S3 cases, don't exactly remember, but the "cons" mentioned above make it so you don't get an impression that One X will break at any moment while you're holding it. I had the choice of buying either One X or S3, and over here the price difference between them isn't really significant, I opted for One X and I don't regret it for a single moment.
[HTC One X] Marco_El_Wray:
Matter of tastes just like I said.... that remembers me the stupids comparisons between Amd and Intel....

The best device is the iPhone I think. But unfortunatly this device is made by a company I hate and run a bizarre Os called... iOS :)
[HTC One X] iranwz:
And more expensive !
[HTC One X] Marco_El_Wray:
Yeah that's true. But we can't deny the quality of the device's materials. That's a point for the Hox by the way. S3 looks cheapy to me.

I don't spit on others devices anyway, I just can't understand why mods let a stupid post like that. Every people buy the device he want, there's no reason to make versus between each device...
[HTC One X] i9100g user:
Better screen?s3 gives deep colours it's your preference what you like

And beats audio is a gimmick ,s3 has better DAC.meaning better sound on s3.

Hox:

Brighter screen,less saturated colours

THD games

Sturdier design,unibody

Better low.light camera

S3

Faster processor

Un-optimised games won't lag

More saturated display,no battery consumed by display when displaying black colors

Removable battery ,longer battery

Better video camera,a bit better overall camera

Better sound

Sd card slot

Overall s3 has more pros but if one of those hox"s pro is more important for you then hox for you

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[HTC One X] pandaball:
I would disagree, the s3's processing benchmarks are slower if you compare both phones while they are on jellybean. Furthermore, AMOLED always gives a blue or green tint to colours, only LCD or Super AMOLED give accurate colours.
[HTC One X] i9100g user:
Colors can easily get washed out on LCD if you are viewing something with a whiter shade .

There would be a con in both of them you have to choose what you prefer.

Can you post some benchmarks because I can't find one where hox gets more scores (international version)

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[HTC One X] viizx:
If I was buying a phone now, I would got Samsung galaxy note 2, it's fast, it's big and has an awesome battery life. And I can quick control my settings. I know I can set a widget for that but this is better. Just my opinion. I love my HTC but the battery really annoys me.
[HTC One X] pandaball:
Benchmark: http://www.gsmarena.com/jelly_bean_update_for_htc_one_x_boosts_performance-news-5010.php
[HTC One X] maxilick:
What a BS thread. Kind of reminds me when I was in pre school "my dad is bigger than yours" and later in high school "mine is bigger than yours"

Both are good phones and I am surprised this thread is still going.