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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Cold, full charge, etc. Old phone stuttered on linaro, benched lower, felt slower. More wake locks. Now linaro on my faster bin runs fine. Haven't noticed anything wrong and benches better than the Google bin. Don't know what's up.

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It shows the current CPU 1 online state.

The toggle is for other devices and does not yet have a function on the Four.

It will eventually.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
This thread is going bonkers every Friday & Saturday.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Yeah and booze does it to you plus being up since 4a eastern time sucks .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Lol reminds me of the first time everyone met Simms.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
[YOUTUBE]Heml3y2H1zQ[/YOUTUBE]

disclaimer.. i take no responsibility for those that are easily hypnotized.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Holy pink and blue circles Simms.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JmPTaz09:
Yeah, 114 definitely seems like the snappiest Trinity version I've tried yet; tried around 10 iterations prolly. Running it with the latest official Liquid which is real nice. No reboots or anything yet, 384/1.512 at without changing voltage. :beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] irishrally:
Is there a B.A.C. app/plugin device? What if on Friday/Saturday nights people were posting BAC screen shots instead of benchmarks and battery stats.

Don't drink and drive. Seriously.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
As far as I can make it up, 114 is vastly the same as 113b except for lower voltages for faster bin CPUs. How are you people seeing the difference between the two!?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
The table fix for faster bins is just something i threw in since i noticed it, that's not the only nor main change.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dark_ente:
Same here, no lag, no freeze, nothing. I'm on fast bin and have UV a little bit.

btw, have anybody use carbon with LBE? For some reason LBE ad block feature doesn't work with carbon, I dont know why

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Actually Swiftkey's gesture typing is more correct. I read the comparision some time before.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] torana355:
Im loving the new 114 kernel teamed with Carbon rom, ive got a fast binned chip. Running 1458mhz with ondemand and deadline.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tyea:
In terminal, when I do the busybox grep PVS command, does 1 mean I have a slow bin CPU?

Occam LGE-960, Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Does the 1 appear all squished to the left?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tyea:
Yes

Occam LGE-960, Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Then you got nothing in return

try dmesg by itself and make sure you see a wall of text

If you don't get it, try to "su" first and try again

then if you do get it, try grepping again, after a fresh reboot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
why are you "cat /proc/last_kmsg" in the same line as the grep? replace that with dmesg. reboot and try again.

su

dmesg | grep PVS
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
What he did is also correct, last_kmsg = saved dmesg log from last reboot. Doing "cat /proc/kmsg | grep PVS" also works.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Ahahahah exactly :p

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yup, sure does. just tried it myself :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tyea:
So......I always get the same thing, 1, not a word like normal or fast.

Occam LGE-960, Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I bet its normal, 0 -> Slow, 1 -> Nominal, 2 -> Fast as far as I remember from the struct.

I'm kinda guessing though, I don't remember what the function returns and too lazy to find out.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
1 should be nominal

char *pvs_names[] = { "Slow", "Nominal", "Fast", "Faster", "Unknown" };

switch (pvs) {
case 0x0:
case 0x7:
tbl_idx = PVS_SLOW;
break;
case 0x1:
tbl_idx = PVS_NOMINAL;
break;
case 0x3:
tbl_idx = PVS_FAST;
break;
case 0x4:
tbl_idx = PVS_FASTER;
break;
default:
tbl_idx = PVS_UNKNOWN;
break;
}
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
What kernel did you say you were on?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tyea:
Obrigado, and Dank, and

Спасибі

Occam LGE-960, Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Did you reboot before the command ?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SupWiz17:
I have been on tf114 for a couple hours now and it is smooth. I am having no issues with reboots. I am liking the Simms special 384/1026 with all 4 cores on. It runs great and the battery life is great.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Gold_Bishop:
Do you please have a link for the TF114?

THX and all the best

GB
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Tapatalk has been up the wall the last 2 days. Won't load participated threads, I have to go through the threads manually. Hope it gets sorted soon.

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hello247:
Check simms22 twitter or g+ page

Link to it is in his signature

Swiftkeyed using Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
The only thing I don't like about swiftkey is when I try to type off but it only does of...and etc.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I've been using it non-stop since it came out; uninstalled it last week as the last update borked the saved learned words and learning of new ones. Messed up.

Other than that, unparalleled keyboard!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Thanks, it happened to me few times and I thought it was my fault.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] laba86:
Have the colors been changed from 112 to 113? They look even darker and the whites are a bit blueish.

Only my personal experience?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] syncopy:
Since there's a little keyboard talk happening, might I recommend Kii Keyboard - a very well polished app.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I just had 3dmark poop on me. Had to force close it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Min 1026 - max 1728 on liquid. Scrolling in Tapatalk (arguably one of the worst..) is insane, phone in general is #f l y i n g#..!

Battery you'll say? Who cares, there's a charger everywhere nowadays. Phone performing like this is what it's made for! :thumbup::)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bclark:
Had a full reboot while browsing with chrome beta, so it may be related to that but here is a last kmsghttp://db.tt/J2y1CpDI
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
So I've had carbon for a dayish now. Liking it, animations stuttered a lot at the start but its settled now and yes its fast. Fast as rasbean or PA? Not sure there's a bit difference to be honest but I'll keep running it for now. Love the dark carbon button tho, genius! Like how it has PAs full pie too, that's helping me stay on it for a bit :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
the 3Dmark benchmark test is invalid to use to compare devices. theres a bug that lets anyone easily cheat. until they fix this bug, take the 3Dmark benchmark results with a grain of salt. for example, my nexus 4..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
I think you will not explain which bug this is?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
please delete
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
@Connor13aker: @simms22 Touching the screen while benchmarking freezes the time and fps, but not frames rendered. Releasing the touch continues benchmarkin
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
That's a real bloomer....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Bstrds..

Glad I'm benchmark-free for almost a year now. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
All benchmarks are invalid in that way.

When the variables and test conditions are unknown it means nothing.

All the overlooked / force all cores online and turn off thermal control runs are invalid. Add on the custom roms.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
maybe to a point, but theres a difference between tweaks/variables and flat out cheating. at least you can compare the defaults to tweaked, but cheating is completely artificial and baseless.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wrunk:
HI All, I am new to flashing kernels and I am trying to figure out how to adjust the trinity kernel once its installed. I flashed the kernel and installed Trinity Kernel Toolbox. I don't understand the setting inside the toolbox and I don't want to break anything.

If anyone has a post they can link me that would be great, i have tried to find one with no luck so far (again I'm a noob here).

Thanks

Wrunk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Best advice would be to run it as it comes for a while.... Stock settings are very good

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you set it up how you like. try different setups, theres no wrong way. and you wont break anything. i like my phone at 1026mhz, ondemand/deadline, fsync off(faster). but, thats just my preference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
IMHO flash it and leave it hell alone.

Play with the colors if you want. and leave everything else alone until you have a understanding of what the stuff does.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
And, if anything is wrong and you can't find your way back, either ask in here or reflash the kernel to reset it all. Worry not, all questions are good in here!

Just make sure you only set on boot when you're sure of what you've done.

Welcome aboard! ;)

(Or, set it up as the Meister bellow..)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i emailed the developer of 3dmark, he responded within 4 minutes. he wrote that it is a known bug and it will get fixed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
You ever had issues using fsync in faster? Since its said to risk data
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
You're kidding me? I'd reply in two if it was me getting such an email from you..

You do have a name Mr Simms.. :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Welcome onboard! As everyone said, stock should be good. Only two things I would recommend. First sit back relax and take you time reading on topic post, ask questions and educate yourself. Then you should start experimenting with different settings. Second, if you are having stutter issues, raise the min settings on step at a time till everything is smooth as silk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well, he did have to read my email, write a response, and press send ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Welcome onboard mate :D

Nothing to add, other people told you all you have to know.

Just a thing, enjoy your phone, Trinity kernel and this wonderful community, here we are all friends as you can see!

If you have any questions (about every topic) post it here; we will be happy to help you ;)

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This afternoon I flashed Carbon ROM + trinity 114.

It seems to a wonderful combo, really love both :D

I will report back in a few days.

Thanks Morfic and Simms for all your hard work and for this thread!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
me, a few times but nothing major. once i had to wipe data(just last week). thats because i had it crash at 1836/1836, soft rebooted, then i crashed it again, soft rebooted again, then i firced a reboot while booting up :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dwang:
Great job on tf114.

Tried just about every custom kernel out there and this is the only one that is as fast or faster than mpdecision.

Every other kernel I've tried that's disabled mpdecision has been much laggier than mpdecision except this one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bennyreyes715:
I never messed with fsync like many others. I tried it since simms recommends it. Good googly moogly what a difference. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sk8trix:
Is there a way to overclock the GPU on this kernel?

I know on the N7 version you can overclock but I wonder if it will be different for this qualcomm chip
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it is overclocked.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] meangreenie:
Speaking about gpu, are lower steps supported now? When i tried this kernel a while ago now, it had only the 487 step available.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bennyreyes715:
325 sticks for me. 400 doesn't. Haven't tried any lower than 325
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
True. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I think the 4 steps available are 128,200,325, and 487
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
The bronco threw you off more than once, I see. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
Woha.... This kernel sure looks smooth... And the colors.....

Is there oc on this kernel? The download page confused me a bit.... Other than that, nice work!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
that was pre-bronco. and yea, it did :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
The kernel is downclocked to 1458 by default.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
this kernel boots up at 1458mhz, technically underclocked. if you want, you can underclock it more or oc up to 1836mhz(but you will need a cpu control app for that)..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
This is #3. You slipping. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
Is underclocking better? Does it impact performance? I sometimes play some games and wouldn't want them to run not smoothly. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
That's plenty for games. I like raising min to 486 so my phone feels faster than Simms's
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Just curious, whats the point in booting with 1458MHz at all? As an observer makes no sense to me :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
slipping is relative, i felt like answering the bronco post first :silly:

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safe cpu speed. anyways, its faster than the stock 1512mhz. if your not happy with 1458mhz, you can always have 1836mhz set on boot if you want. i have 1026mhz set on boot :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
It is safe to boot in case dumbasses like me screw up badly. Are you questioning it is too low or too high. I would not argue it is too high because the sooner the phone sleeps the better for the battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i use 1026mhz, with fsync off, and all 4 cores enabled at all times. performance isnt lost in any way. battery life should be better while underclocked though. depending on your usage, battery would be at least the same or better than not underclocking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Simms, doesn't it boot at 1458 regardless of what you have set on boot. That's for failfree boot.

PS you got me this time ;):beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
how is 1458 faster than 1512? :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Safe why? Google and CAF made it boot with 1512MHz, whats the point in downclocking ~70MHz? What makes it safer than 1512MHz if the voltage is the same (disclaimer: I didn't check Daniel's source, voltages might be different between the two steps).

:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I think he means why not 1512, since it's almost the same. I've wondered the same many times.

Also simms, is there any noticeable improvement over battery life with cpu capped at 1ghz? Does it lag under any circumstances?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
I am running the same settings. I have no lags. Games and ui are smooth and fast. It may improve battery life a bit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i get no lag with it at 1026, with four cores enabled. noticeable, yes, but it would depend on your usage of the device.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I've heard of cases where people got rlod at 1512. I do not know what Morfic logic was behind it. Maybe if people undervolted 1512. Idk. Besides it is his way to say "my kernel at 1458 is faster than stock at 1512".

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Cannot agree more. It all depends on usage. That's why you and I run completely different settings. You do get better sot so I won't argue which one is better.

BTW, I used to run 486/918 when Carbon first came out. It was better than butter. At this settings CM lagged.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sk8trix:
oh okay yes i did read about it but what i meant to ask was if there is a way to change the clock speed,but i guess its just a set value
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yes, it does. then your set on boot cpu speed kicks in after its finished booting.

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run trinity at 1458 and another kernel at 1512, compare the two.

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this should answer your question..

https://bitbucket.org/morfic/trinity_four/commits/d70193e2acef0455d108177185575786c578a5ae
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I UC to 1242Mhz and it's very nice!! This 114 is real good. Be hard to budge from this one!!

The bronco bucks hard!

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
Flash carbon and tf114? Eh? I will do just that. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
10738 on 3d mark with cm10 + this kernel untouched/with stock settings..... I must say WOW..... Even benchmarks are not 100% reliable, but it's the highest I ever got
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Yep.Remember gapps and you should be perfect ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
Why can't I see 114? Latest on the Web is 113b....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Check simms's Google +/twitter.

Profile links are in his signature :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
check my twitter or g+, links in my sig.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
Ok, i found it... Can I ask, why bronco?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it can behave like a bucking bronco, and throw you off(especially at higher cpu speeds). i askef morfic for a bit of a more experimental kernel, since we were all bored in the thread with kernels without any issues (113b and before).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
How I feel right now...I effin love kid cudi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbP_kTM4CA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
But 114 doesn't have any issues, now does it? :p

I must say so far the best kernel I have tested....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if you are a fast or faster binned phone, then it shouldnt have any issues. if youre not, then it might have issues at higher cpu speeds(1512mhz+, hence the bronco name).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bennyreyes715:
I know this is a silly question but I'm quite curious. Are the benefits / drawbacks the same for underclocking / over clocking GPU as they are with the CPU? I never understood the perks unless you're really a game intensive user.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
not a silly question. yes, there are benefits and drawbacks. for phones that can handle it(even higher gpu oc), you will see slightly better graphics performance. drawbacks.. extra heat, instability, and faster battery loss. personally, i dont see a need to oc the gpu more than it already is. i think the drawbacks would outweigh the benefits(on this device).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
So is this kernel finally underclocked or ovrrclocked? I'm a mess...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bennyreyes715:
Thanks for answering. Makes a lot of sense now.:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if youre talking about whst it boots up at, its slightly underclocked. but the other answer is that its overclocked if you set the default cpu speed higher.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Yes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GFXi0N:
Well, i mean with default settings, o understood the cpu is ovrrclocked, am I right?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
edited.. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40011132&postcount=10896

:victory:

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no. its only overclocked if you overclock it. otherwise its underclocked slightly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
It boots one step lower than stock Cpu. L2 is overclocked at stock Cpu.

Gpu is overclocked.

This answer is valid today, probably won't be tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Can't open the link to the Bull. Halp! I want to ride is asap! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
So I've been told to turn OFF the Wi-Fi optimization setting that supposedly saves battery. Anyone know exactly what this setting even does?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
It optimizes battery usage while on Wi-Fi but not in use? I any case, I trust Google's Android engineers. They wouldn't have included it if it did more harm than good. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Link needs verification
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
There has to be also a reason to turn it off. I can't find what it does actually that would save battery except maybe scan less frequently

Just curious because weak signal has been suggested to turn that option off
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
sorry about that guys.. try my new posts.

g+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/105928542838252946547/posts/LYMzaE25aKi

twitter https://twitter.com/simms22/status/320671814953086976
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
If you turn it off it'll increase download speeds but higher battery drain
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
I guess if turning it off means the phone won't hold back in scanning for the weak signal, I guess it would make sense, but remember, the phone will be working harder to connect and get data from the weak signal so might be tantamount to a double whammy to your battery life while on WiFi. Normally I just keep optimization and avoid weak signals enabled. I see no effect on WiFi when I disabled it. Then again, WiFi on my N4 has been wonky from the start. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Ok thanks. But here's where my question lies. Why is my speed faster with it off? Is it decreasing my speed to save battery?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
It apparently optimizes the downstream and upstream . it optimizes the TCP control and lowers CPU while downloading. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Riding the Mechanical Bull now! Yeehaaaa!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
..says the thrilla from manilla ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
So what changes were made for 115?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
blind.

but i will tell you that voltages were dropped even further.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Damnnn...must try.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
S#it, there's a new one?!

Saturdays in the pub, miss new releases. Fmlf..