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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superbobup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I agree that comparing the gnex and n4 isn't the fairest of comparisons, but I think it's not ridiculous to think the n4 should get the same battery life, if not more.

I've compared amongst different Trinity kernels, but again none seem to do as well as Trinity on my gnex.

Typically, I'm on mobile data most of the time with good signal, 3-4 bars. Yeah, bars aren't the best way to judge signal, but I always forget to check the dBm readings.

Usually I get around 2-2.5 hours of screen time for 12-14 hours using pretty low brightness (50% or less). While I agree that it's not bad for a phone, I'm more interested as to why it's not as good as other n4s or my gnex.

Indeed, I've been on Franco, stock, Motley and Trinity. So far, my phone has liked Trinity has been the best and Franco the least, and none get me where I think I should be.

Saw that 109a was released so I'll give it a whirl for the day and weekend. Any other ideas?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
109a is causing all hell to break loose... I was wondering how I lost 10% of battery in an hour doing nothing. Then I opened the dalvik monitor and saw the system was having a meltdown. Infinite loop of warnings..

I reflashed Rasbean to use the default kernel and this behavior instantly stopped.. Flashed 109a back, cleared cache/dalvik for good measure and boom.. All hell breaks loose again.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
run a fix permission please. then reboot and check again. post your findings please.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Reboot then on terminal emulator type:

su

dmesg | grep -i PCS

It should show which binning, which chip quality you have, the lower the binning, the higher the voltages.

Might not relate at all, just curious now.

I take it you already checked you don't use any apps or features you don't use on nexus prime?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Any other symptoms or just the battery..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Rebooted to TWRP, Fixed Permissions. Same behavior.. Soon as I put the phone to sleep.. It stops. Wake it up. And the warnings just start flooding in again. For good measure I went and reflashed 108 and experiencing this on there now too.

I wonder if this was always happening with 108...

I'm up to 50,000 warnings in logcat and skyrocketing at the moment on 108...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlear3:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Momma llama never lies.

Or momma alpaca but it's nowhere as near as catchy
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] allgsmnetwork:
to set in TKT very bright screen?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
brighter than the normal brightness control goes? try messing with the gamma controls.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Heat.. I'll sit on RasBeans default kernel for now.. Curious if anyone else on RasBean and running this is experiencing the same behavior. Like I said. Soon as I reflash Rasbean to put the default kernel back my logcat is as it should be and after a few seconds after booting up settles down to near zero activity when idling.. Throw on Trinity and logcat just infinite loops the same warning when the screen is on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It sounds like it could be an interesting find.

On other news, we'll be rocking the 4.2.2 Rasbean very soon.. :D:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alucard8888:
what kernel are you really running SIR? you just posted http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38636987&postcount=16662 a couple of minutes ago.. :confused: :confused: :confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Yeah I don't know what's going on.. Just to feel the problem out I went and threw Francos kernel on it also.. Same exact infinite loop...

The problem solver in me is telling me to wipe the unit w/ a factory image and see if this still happens.. The procransinator in me is pleading me not to. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

:what: Don't burst the bubble please.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Whoop, Whoop Whoop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superbobup:
using that dmesg command doesn't give any output on terminal for some reason, no clue why. also don't have adb on campus, but i can try the command when i get back home

but, i remember checking when i first got the phone and i have a nominal chip. was there anything else to check, and could i check via root explorer?

indeed, i don't have anything different running on my prime than i do on my n4. at one point, the only difference was Box and Foursquare (neither of which should have notifications/background polling) but i've tried with and without them and it didn't make a difference in battery. the only thing that was on my prime that wasn't on the n4, is Google Now. it was enabled on my prime for most of the time, and i got around the same if not better battery than my n4 with Now off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

After waking up and reading the thread today...,

Simms22 you going to Samsung's event?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I can't run fix permissions in either terminal emulator not thru trinity app. Said fix permissions not installed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

:what: Where are you from AB..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Try it though recovery. It should work. Usually under advance settings.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im getting the same. but im not experiencing any extra battery loss nor heat.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
The battery lose could (probably) have just been a coinsidence and I placebo'ed the two problem together.. Heat was probably from just rebooting so often. Happens to the best of us. :cool:

But thank you for confirming! You saved my OCD and needless wiping to problem solve it. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you need tge fix_permissions file to run fix_permisions. download and drop this into /system/bin/(or xbin, where your applets are located) then run fix_permissions via terminal again https://www.box.com/shared/03cdcfac5a54c2b3a6f6
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I installed Rom manager and it worked in there
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

New York. My schedule and sleeping pattern is all the over place. Some days up at 5 or no sleep others I'll wake up at 4pm.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Not sure which one has the applets by looking in bin and xbin
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Life of a secret agent huh.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
the same place that you have busybox install its applets.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ok xbin then. Thanks

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I give up. Busy box app clearly says its installed in xbin but still fix permission didn't work anywhere except Rom manager
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
make a nandroid of cm, if you have time. id like you to try another rom, to see if the reboot problem persists. i suspect cm might be the issue.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It's fine man. Thanks. Not a big deal for me. Just like when all things work so but being and to fix permissions in TKT just will drive me nuts a little lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
You talking about his gamma editing and the phone rebooting when powering the screen off and on problem? Does it on Rasbean 4.2.1 also..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
poor guy :(

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yea, but its easily fixable with rasbean.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Oh? Fix Permissions for that one then? Didn't see you specifically address it.. Admittedly the threads have been flying by today and I'm wired out on caffeine.. Probably missed it. I need an herbal stimulant to take me down a notch..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stylez Ray.:
So I'm checking this kernel out from time to time (as I loved it on my GNex) but till date it still has the problem for me that it takes a while to wake up from sleep....I press the power button and can kinda feel the phone thinking: wait...what was that...someone pressed the power button....shall I wake up...ummmm...ok let's do it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no. solution is if it reboots, let it. itll boot then reboot after that, let it again, twice. after that the next boot will be fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
+1

From personal experience I can tell you that's exactly how it worked for me as well.

IDK why it works that way, but it does.

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This will seem like a strange question but here goes.

Now that 4.2.2 will be officially released to AOSP for the Nexus 4 and the ROMs produced will be pure 4.2.2 AOSP and not hybrids, does this affect kernel development at all?

Meaning will the new source be beneficial for kernel development or is the kernel and the source for the ROM completely separate entities?

Also I assume TF108 and 109 can be used on a pure 4.2.2 AOSP build when they start releasing later this evening and tomorrow?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
[/COLOR]

Did you look here?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoDp2qRui0u0dGE4T2gtSDBTRHVFSldPS2RrX1Rya0E#gid=6

It's a good starting point that you can tweak for your liking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nickownzya:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I just took a look at Ingress and I'd really love to try it out.

Did you guys already tried it and does anyone have a spare key for me? :o

Sent from mobile - excuse typos
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Andy:
Can we just leave this? Dragging this up will just result in more flaming.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
they sent me this code, i havent used it(someome gave me their code, then i got invited after) MB8TK9ZH

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thank you
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thedauntlessone:
Just curious, is the TKT gamma settings the same as the Franco Updater one? Will the same setting produce the same colour?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it should
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Sorry! First thing I saw after finally getting a chance to check the thread today. I am taking what I said back
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nickownzya:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Aw thanks, too bad the code isn't valid (anymore).. Was worth a try anyways;)

Sent from mobile - excuse typos
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
most likely i am. androidmixer.com asked me to be their rep at the event, i told them i would. last time they asked me to represent them, was at the google(nexus4) event in nyc, and we all know what happened then(yea, you sandy, what a ***** :p )

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i wonder why, i never used it. i guess they have a time limit on them :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yeah I remember all that simms22. That's why I asked
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i am planning on being there, im just waiting on my job to give me the ok to take the day off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
This is my battery life with "Trinity TF97 + xenonHD v5":

I posted this images also on XenonHD thread but i just want give you something to compare with.

I was with WiFi on all the time, 50% brightness, 30mins of videos, about 1h with tapatalk, 15mins of facebook, some gtalk and whatsapp message, about 30mins of browsing and 1h with "Pokèmon Red Fire" (I still can't beat Misty, I really hate her Starmie) with myboy emulator :D

I really can't complain about my battery life, super happy with this configuration!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superbobup:
Posts like these REALLY make me think i'm doing something wrong on my end...though I have no clue what, as I've gotten better results. Maybe the next option is to just flash factory images....no clue if that would help though, as i just did a wipe + flash of rbj a few days ago.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 309041291a:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Good battery with WiFi s is no problem. I want to see some pull 5+ SOT with 3G/H+

Sent from my Trinity powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

How do you like xenon? Was thinking of trying it. I'm on cm10.1 now. Worth the switch you think?

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That's my issue. Only on Wi-Fi while at home. Which is only a couple hours a day
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I have to admit that before trying "XenonHD" I was also in your situation; max 3h screen time no matter what settings I tryied; at the time (I am talking about 2 months ago) I was running AOKP (very good personalization but not optimized well for me) and I tried also with ParanoidAndroid (not gave me what I want), RaspBean and PrimeRunner (all two ROMs were smooth, optimized - i arrived at 3.5h screen time - but too few customization for me).

If I can give you an advice, give "xenonHD" a shoot and if you don't like this ROM you can come back to your actual ROM with no problem (I hope one is getting angry if I recommend a particular ROM)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

perfect ! thank you

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF108
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Yes I think it woth the switch,I really like this ROM because it's very good optimized, it has the right level of customizations and runs very smooth for me ;)

Give it a try!

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I have no need to use 3G/H+ out of home because I have a "WiFi Modem" and a subscription for 10GB/month of Internet.

By the way you are right, the goal is to have this battery life on 3G/H+...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thedauntlessone:
No, battery screen posts are usually controversial. People use dim screen settings, no 3G/H/4G, no sync, no nothing to achieve very high battery life. Turn off your data and you can immediately see how much battery 3G/H/4G sucks up. It's meaningless though. I own a smartphone to use internet on the go, not look at my battery life and jizz my pants. It's also ridiculous people are on their phone 5 hours a day. Do these people even work?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

The thing you see is a logging bug, you'll only see it when you look, if nothing is attached, that's not happening.

Don't have a Google groups link handy where that gets explained.

You should be able to find it if you Google that.

There is no hell breaking loose, nothing happening to your phone, it's just noise you need to filter when logging.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] P00t:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Is anyones vibration very weak??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Ahh.. Good.. It's known about and not a concern.. This is why you get paid the big bucks to know these things. :laugh:

Thanks man!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm liking xenon so far
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jland22:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

From the galaxy nexus to gs3 to nexus4 ; trinity faithful ! Liking what I see in the nex4 kernel as expected. Just nailed down the color calibration to my liking and it is so much more appealing than stock.

I do have to admit Google did 4.2.2 right , I lasted two whole weeks without rooting which is a record for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IcOpRo:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

RBJ + TKT = Profit :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Well that's great but not to be mean but 3.5 hours is pretty much normal. On 97 I averaged 12-18 hours a day with no WiFi, everything synced, no auto reporting from device in maps (but location still on) and all mobile data with auto brightness on and I usually got around 5 hours sot with mostly browsing and some xda app. I've gotten up to 5.5 hours on trinity but that was almost all xda which doesn't use any battery comparatively. I think some of it may have to do with having strong signal and always hpsa 15 or 20. I've noticed even with spotty signal though that battery is pretty good. Anything under 4 hours means I did a lot of music streaming or something intensive.

If you have auto brightness on and still get under 4 hours on screen I would suggest you do a full factory image which wipes everything clean. Many rev 10 phones including one of my old ones gained about an hour of screen time. If you have a rev 11 I've seen it not do as much but there's no reason to get less than 3 hours screen time with trinity if you aren't gaming or using nav unplugged
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JmPTaz09:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yes, just for reference, I also thought that was pretty bad battery life he posted. I have rev 10 and I get much better battery life on numerous ROM and kernel combos. For example, I just randomly captured where I'm at right now as a reference point of what I consider decent battery life. I use about 15-20% screen brightness and have been on WiFi quite a bit today:

I usually consider 16 hours on battery with 4 hrs screen on the acceptable standard for me to keep a certain setup; never under clocking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] allgsmnetwork:
Good Morning a lot,

With ROM Aokp PUB + trinity TF108 very high performance,i before set force non boot offline and not stable set online stable min 22.000 max 22.500 with antutu also min 384/1620 :good: and great bettery life.

GPU incredible test :

GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD C24Z16 - Offscreen (1080p) : (33 Fps) stock 30

GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD C24Z16 - Onscreen :	(43 Fps) stock 39

GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Classic - Onscreen :

(60.0 Fps) stock equal

GLBenchmark 2.1 Egypt Classic - Offscreen (1080p) :

(88. Fps) stock 77 fps

Great kernel.

Good Work

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@ Stefa. ,

Wow great battery life :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Weedalot:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

My mom's vibrator is. Now jokes aside I got her the same phone and sometimes the vibration isn't working at all sometimes weak as hell. Hardware problems I suppose
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HewettBR:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HewettBR:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

My battery on 97
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HewettBR:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Part 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] io53:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I've had it for a few months. It was fun at first but now it just feels like a battery draining tool.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I always wonder how some manage to get such terrible battery life.

I struggle to get anything less than 4hrs of screen on time. On a kernel that is not even really battery friendly. Stock mpdecision is included.

You guys are the legitimate case of when better battery stats needs to be used to try and find out whats up.

Again this not even what would be considered good battery by a lot of folks. Nor am I even attempting to get good battery. My battery is good enough for me that don't have a reason to use a more battery friendly set up

Are you two hrs people taking a lot of pics / vids / photospheres / or games? Things that use a ton of juice.

I had a r10 and a r11 and didn't notice any real differences between them in battery either.

My conclusions are either its something the user is doing or their hardware is just sub par that is causing battery woes. Maybe both. The dev of tweet lanes is always complaining he gets awful battery with the device. Yet I know somebody who runs full out of the box stock and gets over 4 screen on time. Person is also a regular non power user too.

Moral of story. Look into your settings / BBS. Ask for help. Still can't figure it out you may want to think about a RMA. Before doing that I would back up everything and run a 100 percent stock ROM for a battery cycle without all your apps. That should get plus hrs of screen time really. Don't RMA and bother Google with nothing more than user error though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
R: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Thanks for the ridiculous =)

Btw I do not save my device to achieve a great battery life (I am always with sync on and I just pay attention to turn GPS off when I don't use it); it have no sense for me not using this phone at its full capacity. As I write some posts ago I said that I do not use 3G/4G/H+ because I have a "Wi-Fi modem" with a 10GB/month internet subscription to browse out of home.

Finally; just to be clear now I use my phone 5h/day because I am sick; I pass my day in bed and I use it to "stay in touch" with the world ;)

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Force non boot CPU offline/online option is not enabled yet. Amirite?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IcOpRo:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

To me that's pretty good considering that I work driving around in a very large area and I have to go inside different buildings everyday that all of them have horrible signal inside(most of the time close to dead or dead), also the areas that I have to cover the coverage is not that great, I now the device can do better but with my signal strength situation I don't think that's going to happen.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yes you are right.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] allgsmnetwork:
OK friend thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

That's correct

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Simms, how long 'throttle off' stick for. Until reboot? Flash kernel? Flash ROM? Wipe? Till manually enabled?

Thanks in advance?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
until reboot. same with forcing all four cores. speaking of, ive been using 1026mhz/384mhz for more than a day now, with all four cores enabled. im loving it :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarayn:
It's tf97 still the go to option for bug free battery luvvin smoothness?

If so, are there good color values for it somewhere? I like pa brighter but the setup I have us fur the new interface with advanced tuning.

If not..107?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

can you give commands to force all cores and to turn off thermal stuff please?

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF108
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] allgsmnetwork:
testing T107f ,two test consecutive first 236xx after this :