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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
5? LOL. Almost all of the western world. You can waive your American flag all you want. Doesn't change the fact that it's pathetic.

Our roads are great too since alot of the world still has dirt too.

Edit. And to add on. Who is surprised I said that or whatever Lol. You know what's better. Who is surprised that somebody that defends that hell hole of a city Detroit would defend the US wireless / Internet market?

One that to this day still allows the operators to double dipp for test messages. Changing the sender and receiver. Still allows the operators to charge for tethering on metered plans. Still has the broken operator control locked down devices to their networks for the most part. In a system that allowed this junk to happen in the first place.

A place where we have almost always paid for the most money for the least amount on mobile and the hardlines.

I can go on and on. And anybody that knows anything at all about mobile knows our entire system is the laughing stock of the entire world. Ironically this was one of the main purposes of the entire Nexus line. To disrupt the status quo of the American market.

But it's cool because some third world country doesn't have it and Detroit is better than Afghanistan. So it's luxury.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Yeah, like the rest of the western world that is just getting LTE. And I am not an American, I just have frame of reference to compare. What is your personal experience, because you always come across as the "everything's amazing and nobody's happy" kind of guy?

I couldn't get some free internet to save my life in 3-4 countries I visit this summer. If internet is so cheap why is it not free? I got 5 store within a block that have free wifi here. It's always refreshing to get deprive things you get for granted to appreciate them.

As far as roads go, I find it proportional to the severity of the exposure to elements. I find Cali roads just as good as the best of Europe.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i went to uzbekistan several years ago. i find our worst roads to be of the same caliber as their best roads :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Bros. Africa. Roads are a luxury. Appreciate what you have.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
@Al: Your edit is full of urban myths and legend and not a lot of substance. But you are right:

Detroit MSA is the worst place in the Western hemisphere and I am working really had to get out of here. Most of the places I have visit in the States are so much better. If you’ve ever been to Detroit you’ll know what I am talking.

As for mobile broadband it is so slow I can barely do anything on my phone. I don’t get signal half of the time anyway. In Europe the mobile internet is so fast your phone needs to read your mind to keep up with the bandwidth. Not to mention that I have to work all month to pay my cell phone bill. And then they double dip on my incoming and outgoing calls and massages on my limited plan.

Then you get to the prices of the actual phones. According to the Bella Donna lova, you can get a nexus for $300 at lunch. Can you believe that?! I know your internet was so slow it made up for the mind blowing.

Then the roads around here are so bad I wouldn’t even think of doing 150+mph on multiple occasions. At least they don’t drop a ton of salt on the roads 5 month out of the year when it snows to prevent more potholes from popping up. This make for an exciting winter driving you’ll never have in Europe.

Man I can keep sharing my horrible experience in Detroit and the States as a whole but I am getting so depressed I might decide to go back to the EU.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rest0ck:
Im intersted. But do these settings look good?

Because i already tried halfbreed settings in trickster but it was the same aa always :blue-ish

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Google Nexus 6 by Lexus.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
android powered smart car, 16gb or 32gb storage ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Better mileage when you flash Trinity kernel on it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nycelitemaster:
Can anyone tell me if this kernel uses modified ram disk.. M

Mpdecision is dropped? Using hotplug?? Please confirm. Thx

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
All of these profiles are some way blueish, but the screen becomes more vivid, my opinion. Try this.

RGB 245 - 244 - 240
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
Guys,

be my guests to drive here in Brazil on road BR 101 (highway that connects major regions of Brazil) and with your phone connect full time.

(It´s a pure joke)

edit: when I say connected, i said to calls inclusive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Urban myths have nothing to do with facts

Nor does what countries flag or point of view you want to push forward.

The facts are the facts. Period. The facts are our smartphone market and broadband period sucks compared to the rest world.

Whether you like or not it's true. No amount of bumping your chest and some form of national or local pride changes the facts. It sucks period.

Keep up with your nonsense because that's really all you have to back you up. Nonsense.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
Meh, I've always thought the US mobile plans were a bit weird. On the one hand, there are all those stupid restrictions like paying extra for tethering, but on the other hand, there are unlimited internet plans. Over here in Australia, you'd struggle to find any better than $5 per GB for a data only plan, and certainly no better for adding data to an actual phone plan.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no, theres no ramdisk in the kernel, its a anykernel kernel.

no mpdecision, its not enabled. hotplug is a different story. by default at the moment, trinity is running 4 cores max and 4 cores min. because its at the same max/mim at 4 cores, it cant hotplug, it runs with four cores always on. this doesnt mean that 4 cores are always running and wasting battery, it means that it isnt wasting time/battery always turning off/on the cores. to enable hotplugging, just set less than 4 cores to be minimum(one for example).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nycelitemaster:
Thanks Sims, one more thing can please tell me that after i flash the kernel and if i want to go back to stock to flash ota, do i just flash stock kernel or do i have to restore totally. Thx

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if youre running the stock rom right now, then just flashing the stock kernel will suffice. but if youre not runnig the stock rom, then you would havecto restore totally.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Man, I already told you, you were right and my life sucks. But you are young, single and free; move to Europe and enjoy the great mobile service, cheap plans, perfect roads. Let me add one more, great customer service.

I was their, I made my choice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
What a bull****e totalitarian point of view mate!

Who are you, the Pope..?!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
And I told you that you have no facts to back up your nonsense and all you can do is spew more.

How silly and frankly stupid of you to suggest moving somewhere else simply because of the facts that their mobile market and their broadband is better. What stupid logic. How dare you say my country / residence doesn't have the best ....gtfo. That's pure nonsense.

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The facts speak for themselves. Uninformed nonsense means nothing. The facts don't care if you except them or not. They are still true regardless.

And I do have as much authority as some idiot in a pointy hat. In fact more. Since it's not based on the land of make believe.

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The facts speak for themselves. Uninformed nonsense means nothing. The facts don't care if you except them or not. They are still true regardless.

And I do have as much authority as some idiot in a pointy hat. In fact more. Since it's not based on the land of make believe.

http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

Link to average internet speeds for a country.

My mobile point would take much longer to explain but its also true. And its not purely about speed either. Its about how much you pay for what you get and how for decades we have been screwed by our operators.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] b1337:
don't get al all fired up!!! lol!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
And here is a link going over mobile from a couple years ago. http://newamerica.net/publications/policy/an_international_comparison_of_cell_phone_plans_and_prices

Do I have to right a book on here breaking down all the nonsense that went down and still goes down currently in the US?

Edit. Another link from CNET. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10307726-94.html Facts facts facts.

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One last add on that does a decent job of summing up the behind the scenes stuff. But in this short article they leave all the great stuff like carrier locked devices and incompatible network tech and bands. And of course carrier exclusive nonsense for a certain device and the mobile operator bullying the OEM/s that make the phones. Since they are the customers and not the actual consumers buying the devices and plans.

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/cell-phone-corruption-bill/

But this system is so damn great.. If I dont like it I should move to Europe!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
So you want some fact?! Well, by the age of seventeen I had been in more than a dozen European countries (you haven't been to). I've visited probably a handful more since then (you probably you haven't been to those either) I would guess altogether that will cover the majority of the western world that has "better" mobile networks than the US. I also visit 5 European countries in the last 6 months (3 were 1st world countries) with my nexus in my pocket and 2 different prepaid sim cards. (Not bragging) but I have 150+ IQ so I believe I can make a pretty good judgement based of my experience about mobiles (@Vangelis handy's), roads, girls, rocket science (...ups I went overboard with this one).

Now you want to talk Detroit?! Sure! I live in what up to recently was the third richest per capita county in the States. I've been in over 10 states and numerous cities. You think Detroit is bad!? End up in some parts of LA MSA, or Chicago, or Flint MI, Rochester NY. I here Harlem is not much better. Stop reading headlines. They are like a spec sheet written by a marketing department.

IIRC you feel pretty strongly on the "spec sheet vs user experience" front. Well you are arguing talking points and I am arguing the user experience. Your point about being charged on receiving calls/texts is pretty mute when you have unlimited plan. Try getting prepaid unlimited plan in Europe for $70.

One small advice from me: be more respectful to people with opposing views. While I agree with your views most of the time, you always come across as an arsehole. Sorry to burst it for you but you are not know it all be it all. I hope I am wrong but odds are against you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
"" You see, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, people in Sweden, the Netherlands, and Finland*pay on average*less than $130 a year for*cell*phone service.* Americans pay $635.85 a year.* That $500 a year difference, from most consumers with a cell phone, goes straight to AT&T and Verizon (and to a much lesser extent Sprint and T-Mobile). ""

Hate to burst your republic report mate but I pay (in Germany) 35 euro (~50$) per month for unlimited calls, sms & data (data is 4g speed for the first 300 MB, after that 2g). And that is considered to be a helluva contract in two of the above mentioned countries (where I've also lived).

Don't believe everything you read on the interniets, just because someone slaps a title on it. I had you for more clever than that..

[MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION] spoke based on personal experiences through travels & living in Europe. Have you ever even been across the blue thing on the map..?

[MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION] told you you should have opted for the Dorf instead of the posh idiots in Cannes.. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
First time I see you pissed off.

The thing about speedtest results is that many of the results are intercounty. Moldova is in top 15! Lol

Back in my college days I used visit my friends back home and they would get p2p speed I could have never dreamed of. And then you try to load major international website and it would take forever. Some things are only skin deep.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
It was full of Americans. Felt at home.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I'm not pissed off. That only happens in the pub. Or that time when Jesus started talking in foul language about someone's sister in Italian.

I'm rather disappointed because I never thought Al would state things just because they're in some website (called "republic report", wtf..?!). Things about places far far away.

(Like me hitting you with my expertise about the US. Never been there as they wanted me to go through interviews prior to entering the country (I was in Niagara and wanted to cross the bridge), to go to some outsourced company in Frankfurt before my trip. Told them to f-off & hung up the phone.. :p)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if i didnt see it, id be doubting your sanity :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I knew you'd catch it.. ;)

Only stopped because you asked me to back then, else I was dead on heading towards another infraction..!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I respect and encourage actual dialog and challenges. What I dont respect at all is the little jabs like anybody surprised he said that? Or just nonsense. Easily proven false nonsense.

The entire road thing you keep bring up was nothing more of a way comparing the roads in the US to the roads on the continent of Africa. But on that note I don't recall a major highway bridge collapsing and killing people in other 1sr world countries.

Better mobile coverage is a subjective term. For example. Verizon for as long as I can recall has the best / most coverage in the country. But up until LTE is was flat out terrible since It was CDMA. For some it was the best because they have coverage in their areas. For others its terrible because CDMA networks are so slow its sad. Also in many verizon markets they are currently over saturated and their LTE speeds equal hsdpa 14 speeds. Their prices are also flat out way to high. So while many will say its the best, I will say Verizon is terrible.

I am also content with my plan. But not at all with the US market and all its BS.

And I am from the New York area. Harlem is like Beverly Hills compared to Detroit. Sure there are ghettos or poor areas all over the place. But not like Detroit. Its not even ghetto. Its vacant run down neighborhoods and even skyscrapers. That is a different monster. .

I am not big on the Spec sheet vs user experience either. Specs matter. Anybody that says otherwise is just wrong. What I think you are talking about is when I get on people for saying nonsense like Apple doesnt care about specs. Which is probably the dumbest lie repeated in smartphone history..

And the unlimited plans are not all they are cracked up to be. By that I mean except for the massive data hogs out there they are marketing 101. What they did all these years was overcharge you for everything. Mins and text ( which should have always been free period) and your data. Then they toss the unlimited plan out there to make it seem like more of value than the nonsense you are used to from.

And I am sure you have noticed by now that I really don't care how I come off.

I probably repeated myself I and lost my train of though but oh well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
Lol, unlimited plans a marketing stunt? Please, send your marketing guys over here to Australia! I will pay for that kind of stunt.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Its not about a certain website. This info is well known. Its nothing new. Anybody that knows about this market will tell you the same. Ask Brian Klug and Anand how they feel about it. Or the guys on android central. Or even ask google. They meant to disrupt this nonsense with the launch of the nexus one. Thats why there was so much buzz about that phone. It wasnt the device itself or android. It was what google was trying to do. Put the carriers in their places.

. The speedtest site is the more of the same. The speed of peoples broadband internet is known. You can look up what other places have to offer in that space and actually interact with those users on the net itself. Even back when I spent many days hanging around scene folks on IRC. you could see the speed in action easy by fxp'n stuff to boxes all over the world. Its

You don't need to go to japan to know how efficient their public transit system is. Same as you don't need to travel to world to be informed about what their internet is like.

I don't need to go move to Kansas City to know that google fiber is awesome.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
And I don't need to move to the US to know I'd rather have your mobile plans and networks than mine. Stop whining, please, there are plenty of places in the world, even in first world countries, that are a lot worse off than the US right now. So your plans aren't the best. So your speed isn't the best. So what. Deal with it or move. Your choice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
I just don't know what to say
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It is in a way. Not all ways and not for all people. But what they do and did in the past was charge insane amount of money for mins. Which included placed and received calls. Same goes for text. Little by little it was hey we will give you unlimited text for 20 bucks with so and so many mins. After that its hey look at us....we will give you everything unlimited and its a great value. And so on. It was marketing 101.

These newer unlim plans are different marketing strategy than the one we had in years past in the states. Now they tend to offer lower priced data plans with a couple hundred MB of data to go along with newer plans. So they average user who used a gig or two a month moves on up to more expensive unlim plans.

Almost everything comes down to marketing. For example t mobile will show those plans on TV. Not the 30 dollar 5gb plan. Hell that one is even hard to find on their website.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I think the problem is that Al loses all eloquence when internet arguing, rain I try not to fight on irc anymore,I type too slow and lose any little shred of eloquence I might have.

Al lost me in this until one key statement, you don't need to go to another country to know about their superior public transportation, a statement that can be made about any technology really.

After reading both sides I think I'm watching a vertical píssing contest and I'll walk away before I get wet, and I suggest everyone, even the contestants walk away from it now too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Oh great more nonsense.

I am not whining. I am telling it like it is. I don't want to move and I am aware there are plenty of places that are worse off. None of that matters. Its the same ol bs talking point that hey something is not right, but it could be worse off like so and so. So just accept it and shut up.

That has nothing to do with pretending that US market is great. Or a luxury. Or not a complete racket thanks to the operators

People tend to get butt hurt when they are told their stuff isnt the best. Esp Americans

Instead of saying this is crazy and it needs to change. We get the dolts that go if you dont like it move. durrr america f yeah. Pure stupidity.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I went back to stock today, managed to not properly back up my titanium backup folder and didn't save a nandroid to pull from. :o

Long story short I've spent the last couple hours downloading and resetting up my phone. Still not even done but I guess the good news is my titanium backup folder now doesn't need sorted & cleaned up. Lol can't ask for a cleaner start. :D

I am liking stock too may just run rooted stock with neo until 4.4 drops.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
I was writing a reply when I saw this post. Decided to take your suggestion. It's spinning to other areas than my statement.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
Okay, put like that, fair point. You're right, just because there are things that are worse out there doesn't mean you shouldn't try to get something better than what you have.

Sorry, I just got a little irritated seeing all this stuff pointing out how bad the mobile market in the US is when I know it's got a lot of advantages over what I have. :)

Anyway, I'm also taking Morfic's advice now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Let's all adhere to morfic's request.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Come to Switzerland man. One of the richest countries in Europe and man does it pay to live here. If you can deal with stuck up farmers that is.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Al sure proved me wrong.

I would have told anyone that only talking religion and politics can lead to such polarized, drawn out talking AT each other.

There is no discussion here, just two sides taking at each other.

I agree with a lot of what Al had to say, but it makes me think of what my wife tells me when I am right in a discussion and go in for the kill.

"Sure, you are right, but is it worth looking like an ass proving it?"

So I guess: Quit it, since there isn't even a discussion.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Guys, guys...

Let's talk about Brazil and you'll see that you live in heaven.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
But we could start discussing :) I like discussions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's worth it to look like a ass as long as you aren't having said argument with your wife. Since then there is a price to pay for it.

It's easy to polarize people with tech. Apple is the easiest way. Remember what happened the last time I said a good thing about Apple?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
I tried to say that posts ago in other words.

But.... BR101, the highest celular minutes, the poor coverage, our cars... Sorry this list never ends.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Bud, I'm sorry for the cheap jabs. But you ticked me off with your ultimate truth statement on something I said jokingly on a first place. And picking on Detroit was below the waist. Looks are only skin deep. Look at me being wrong about Harlem.

I just look at life as the glass is half full and you came around and spill my glass.

I'm still dry, so I'm taking Morfic advice and walking away.:p

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Yakshemash!

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Yakshemash!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rest0ck:
Hey Here's something about the kernel again ^^

Would it be possible to and a Patch that changes the colors to the one PA Uses?

Sry if I am annoying but am I the only one that bothers it so much?

Default colors are Bad and changing then with trickster just make them eben worse. I need good colors.. Pls :, (

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