yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ScoolAir:
Lol, still there are kernel version for Android 4.3? More two days come out 4.4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Most importante than that is Google sticking with ONE base this time.

This 4.3 "multibase" made me sad...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
That's pretty obvious. At no time did I say it wasn't better, or not an upgrade. I'm simply saying it's an marginal upgrade. Besides making it a 2.0ghz chip, they couldn't have made a smaller upgrade in the natural progression of the chip. They're obviously not going to offer the same chip 2 years in a row.

2.5ghz s800? Nope. 32gb/64gb storage options? Nope. 12MP camera with OIS? Nope.

All I'm saying is Google did the bare minimum required for an upgrade for the phone. They took the smallest step they could in each direction for the N5.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
Its the only way to keep phone as cheap as possible (read: ~350$). Flash storage is the most expensive part of the device. Camera sensors are quite expensive too. And then there come other parts..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
The screen is the most expensive part.

Flash storage (nand/dram) has gotten much cheaper over the years. A 64gb chip costs less than $10.

You know the nexus 4 had the same storage chip right? If you have an 8gb model there's a hard mod you can do to enable the full 16gb.

I have a feeling Google is doing pretty well selling direct to consumers instead of retailers. Sure a Galaxy S4 is ~$600, but I would like to know what AT&T pays for each one, while they gouge you over the course of your 2 year contract.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] salehmbaker:
Hey guys I am on Vanir and after their latest update I got all the colors messed up after flashing TF11. Any suggestion for a fix ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deani77:
Flash this zip file after you flash Trinity

https://db.tt/1pHazWT9

Sent from my Nexus 4 now Free
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
It's not jwr bt you can still use it just disable hardware acceleration so you won't get flickering pictures

Ps . I'm using it now on a jwr Rom flawless

I love my slutty nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it sounds like a cm based rom. theres a flashable around to "fix" cm's error, or grab a non cm based rom.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
They have the color fix on vanir thread just find it

I love my slutty nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
Could you link me the hardmod? Really curious, and I think it's a bit more than just a marginal upgrade. If our S4 Pro was oced to 1.836ghz, I'm pretty sure a S800 underclocked to a 1.7ghz range it would perform better with less heat and power. Qualcomm being able to power the S800 at 2.26ghz @ *Around* 1v is a big leap from my Nexus 4 running 1v @ 1.512ghz. What stops me from possibly getting a Nexus 5 is that the GPU might not be strong enough to play games at 1776x1080 as good as our Nexus 4 plays games at 1184x768. Plus, the circular earpiece is getting to me as well :/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
Ok I stand corrected here.

Yes they are doing good job in the countries where google play store is available but in those that isnt its a deifferent story. The cheapest contract free i can find in my country is 340€ (460$). Bought mine at carriers by renewing my contract for 350€ (got 7 extra gigs of mobile data per month). Still... in my opinion its a ripoff! :/

Off-topic: I just couldnt resist. Quality and stability of iOS 7 rocks! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNw457joq5I
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Google can't just make uo their own magic chip for the 800 They used the best SoC available. There is a lower binned s800 they could have used and the ab version would not have been available at the time.

32/64 options is silly really. Maybe they should just follow what Samsung did with the note eh. Disregard sales figures and market research and do it to make the fools on YouTube happy.

The didn't just take the smallest steps possible in each direction to upgrade. Let's use your own own examples. They didn't have to use the higher binned 800. Hell they could have tried to use the S600 but they would catch to much slack for it. They didn't have to upgrade the amount of storage at all. But they did. Depending on the rest of the optical system the upgrade to the new camera with OIS should be huge. They didn't have to do that either. Smallest thing they could do it just use a another generic sensor. Not go the OIS route at all.

There is a massive difference between using every single highest end part available when you're putting together the phone and doing the smallest step possible

Just because the device isn't your dream device with the best possible everything doesn't make it marginal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bruce7373:
New to Trinity. Will it work on CM - based roms, AOKP official (4.3.1) for example, or will the colors be messed up (as with Franco and Semaphore)?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Messed up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
only cm based kernels will work(without using the fix) on cm based roms without messing uo the colors. and cm based kernels are hard to find in this sea of aosp kernels :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
For gaming I recommend a PS4, X1, Vita, or 3DS(PS3/x360 are under 180). Besides that you'd be better off waiting for the Next gen mobile Socs. The Tegra 5 has been shown by Nvidia playing BF3, so 1080P+ games will play greatly on the next Snapdragon.

Sent with Mako-no-ōkami
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
First you said that N4 was fast enough and that everything runs at 60fps, so faster CPU will not contribute to the user experience. Now you say that 800mhz faster CPU with substantially better IPC performance is not good enough. I am confused. :confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
As one of those youngsters, I agree with you to a point. Except with comparing to Apples strategy, I think were better than that, mindlessly buying sh!t because it gets hyped by every idiot.

I consciously made the decision to spend the little money I have to have the latest and greatest. Also, having a better camera, which I'm sure the Nexus 5 will have.

The Nexus 4 is still one of the best phones out there though :D

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That's a terrible view of us you have there :sadface:

Come on man, do other young guys really spend that much on booze and such? Personally, I'd never spend a lot on that stuff.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
If I may chime in, the SoC alone is a big update considering N4 SoC that's actually a tablet SoC that has some issues. If I can get the N5 around the same price of the N4 (almost impossible because our currency has depreciated around 12% against the US dollars in the past 2 months) when I bought it in January (pre-order price $475) then it's definitely not a marginal update.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I'm 26 and spent much more then I want to admit on 'that stuff". ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
You're the proud exception that confirms the rule then! ;):thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've understood that in the opposite way: some young people prefer to spend that amount of money in a Nexus 5 instead of booth. And that was my case with the Nexus 4. I totally agree with him, and I am 26 yo and unemployed.

Everybody spend their money as they like, some us just prefer to have a Nexus or eat a steak. :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Well, here's to hoping that soon you'll have that job that pays the steaks and the phones!! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
I guess you could say whatever floats your boat. :thumbup:

I'll be learning Java and such when I get my Nexus 5 though :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah, I'll look for the mod. They pretty much cut one (or more) of the pins on the storage chip. Similar to how they disabled the FM radio. I found the mod about a week or so after I had already bought the 16gb model so I didn't look into it further. Searching makes it difficult to find so I'll search through my history and post when I find it.

Edit: found a post here asking about it, but that's not it. The thread I saw had people who were buying up 8gb and then reselling as 16gb. I'm pretty sure it was another forum besides here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Ey, Hartley, yeah that's double the resolution (but not more geometry) , so with at a 50% improved gpu performance, faster cpu, and possibly faster memory (still haven't found a way to confirm that)

It ought to be playing games pretty nice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Very true. I don't know how android games scale, but do you know if the FOV increases? That could create more geometry. But with the quality of games we have now, i dont see it being an issue. Our models arent detailed and our textures are mediocre. I'm looking though a small screen, though. I still haven't bought a slimport to hook up to the television to see how they really look.

My 3D gaming on multiple android devices has been limited since my last phone was the HD2, which is pretty much on spec with the Nexus One. So casual 2D touch games were about the max it could do.

Side topic: why is Gameloft the only company making quality games (graphics, not originality obviously)

Blizzard and Valve (et all) have more money than God. Would it kill them to make mobile versions of their most popular franchises? And not some bastardized version that they are used to pumping out. (Think of "ports" on the GBA)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
EA I think does great?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Just updated tapa pro and xda doesn't lag as much when first loading the board.

from my PSX~NEO [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Square Enix makes great games for android too, but they are expensive as hell. Anyway, Final Fantasy VI is confirmed, it will be an instant purchase on day zero for me.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/10/4823200/final-fantasy-vi-coming-to-ios-and-android

But yeah I would love to see something like Diablo or Diablo 2 for android, or some quality real strategy games. Just racing games shine on android.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
[MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION], yeah EA does, but they seem to limit it to only arcade racing games.

And yeah, SE has taken a lot of my money with their ports. But I was really hoping for some new content. At least we have dimensions and chaos rings for new content. 3d FFIV got my hopes up for a 3d version of V and VI. Im happy with updated sprites, but I would easily drop ~$30 for a 3d remake of VI. (My personal favorite one). I would love to see the sales numbers from their android versions vs the GBA and DS releases. I have a feeling android/apple is pretty close.

For a good diablo-esque game, check out dungeon hunter 4 and eternity warriors.

**note: "we" as in mobile in general, both apple and android. I think the time has come that android users as a whole spend money on apps now that the platformed has matured. The reason a lot of these companies stay away is because they don't want to sell for 2.99 and under. I think SE is a good example that you can charge $15.99 for a game and still sell a ton if the quality is there.

Edit 2: looked into sales of FFIII remake. ~1.7m total in all regions on DS. Were in the sub 500k on android, no idea on Apple numbers. Mobile is currently probably better sales than if they released a new game for Vita/3DS.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stevew84:
Path of Exile is great.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Just looked into it. It's windows/steam only right?

Or are you adding it to the list of great games that needs to be on mobile?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
You guys talking about games, graphics and makes me think that I'm enjoying a simple game, doesnt require expectacular hardware named "Heroes of Loot". I could play it on my HTC Desire pretty well.

Btw love Sunday Nigth Football, specially when not working on monday. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I played Final Fantasy III on my HTC Desire, and something that was even harder because of screen size: I read the last 3 books (4 tomes) of Game of Thrones. Yeah really nice phone, I had to sell it to finance my Nexus, it was a huge leap forward. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
I just wish Square Enix wouldn't release those Final Fantasy game at 15$. They are great game but they are old.

Rockstar did it right by porting PS2 games over. I'd would totally shell out 20$ for Final Fantasy 10 HD & 12.

At least, Eidos (SE owned) is doing some new stuff with their franchise on smartphones. Deus Ex The Fall.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Games are meant to be fun. Graphics should always come second.

Anyone who's been around long enough will tell you graphics come second in a good game. Good gameplay/good story comes first. (Which makes me always conflicted about Gameloft, great graphics, but always blatant rip offs of popular games. I always excuse it because we DON'T have those great games on mobile, and Gameloft does a good job of recreating that experience.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

you should upload once a week your updated rom and share your changelog

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ah, I apologise. I didn't know it was built in.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

So sorry man. I thought you manually changed the DPI to 240. Sorry. Big thanks for the upload.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

3 days is perfect. I've just flashed it and one thing is really not good for me : the font is hard to read

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Agree, that was the one thing I didnt care for either....seems Google spoiled us with Roboto goodness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

We appreciate that :) but don't go out of your way man, its your ROM, is there an easy way for us to change it? I've just realised I liked something about the sgs3, you could change the fonts no bother Lol :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Thanks, will hold off on today's build then. Roboto is perfect
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

what is the name of the original font?

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Roboto
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm getting ganged up on now! Seriously, the maturity of some people!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1807291

Starting to get annoyed with XDA lately, back in the Nexus S days and early Gnex days, things were good. Now lately I seem to be annoying people and people are annoying me. I have thought about just going anon and just downloading what I want without logging in. Thing with that is, I like to thank the devs and show them I appreciate their work and I can't do that as anon. I don't know, thinking about it though.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Besides using PA, ive not found a way to do this. Im interested in doing exactly the same, stock dpi EXCEPT for lockscreen
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Well according to the last post here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2090012

Chronus has been updated on CM10 to allow the weather to be displayed without a DPI change. So that's my problem sorted. As for having a separate DPI change, outside of PA, I can't see anyone wanting to spend time trying to achieve it. Shame really.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Eric-1987:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I can't figure out how to get this kernel. I tried flashing one and I couldn't even get to the boot animation.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Same here. If every FF would cost $5 you can be sure I would be buying all of them. But at $15....that's greedy, this games are remakes and I have most of them already in its original format, so I'm buying FF VI only because it's the one I haven't played yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Yeah, sure.

Bottom line, I just want to use Trinity without any workarounds and to this, next Android has to be well made and optimized. Thats all.

Now I'm gonna enjoy my football. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Hi,

Has anyone set colors/gamma using the nexus 4 color spreadsheet here?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoDp2qRui0u0dGE4T2gtSDBTRHVFSldPS2RrX1Rya0E

( i need halfbreed)

New to trinity, so i ve only set gamma using franco and fauxs implementations. Morfics is pretty new to me. Any help is appreciated.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i dont know how to convert it from faux, but you can change and save the values via root file explorer. trinity kernel toolbox works, and ive heard that trickster works as well. btw, this is franciscos implimentation, his first implimentation.

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i spotted something appropriate for someone named [MENTION=4778194]TheDarkDefender[/MENTION] :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Umm... I don't get it?

Sent from my Nexus 7²
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
The number of Συμεών

( νώεμυΣ ɟo ɹəqɯnu əɥʇ)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Oh haha :D :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 4

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@simms22 and [MENTION=3644884]Vangelis13[/MENTION]

Damn. you spoiled it!

:)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Try this config:

R - 245

G - 245

B - 255

For other values, see attach. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Thanks! These look great. numbers a very similar to what I had but the screen looks noticeably better with yours.

[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] What are you screen settings?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i changed my gamna, then reverted. i like the old trinity colors better, just the rbj change..

red 235, green 230, blue 255. no gamma changes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I told you, 240, 240, 255 is better! :p

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Just noticed this:

Tags

666, best kernel, destroyer of worlds, not for *******, performance

:good: [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
The power of Trinity!

Almost a double whammy. :beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Who's ready to see all the fools complain that 4.4 is not coming out tomorrow?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Went to the texmex place for dinner, saw this again. Whatever happened to him, did he lose the battle against evil..? :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
He got another phone. The HTC one. He came back briefly though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Nor the N5 (or new N4)

Just messing with you!:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no one thinks that 4.4 or the n5 are coming out tomorrow(except a few idiots), but many do think that itll be announced tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Sorry to remind you about Sandy last year, but aren't you invited this year? There is no hurricane to worry about now.:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no invitations yet, no one has gotten any.. which leads me to believe that either they arent having a get together for a release this year, or they are not releasing the n5 tomorrow :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm sticking with 10/30 as originally suggested.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im sticking with whenever they are ready :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Is this a sticking competition? I'll go grab some tape and glue see who wins then. :silly:

btw, I'm giving your 235,230,255 another try but I think either our screens are different or your eyes are getting old. :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
or we have slightly differing tastes in color preferences :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Yeah, that's what Artem from androidpolice states, that the one that leaked 10/15 as a launch date missunderstood TA (technical acceptance) date with launch date, or something like that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I gotta say this OLED WORLD that Samsung put out looks pretty good with 240 240 255 and halfbreed gamma.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Well folks it finally happened to me, was bored benching for the benchmark thread and I had fsync off at 1944/1944 which I've done before and I think I raised voltage to much cause my phone crashed like I've heard [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] has experienced before anyways just restored a nandroid and I'm back.

from my PSX ~ NEO [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
That was a sympathetic thanks.

We play with fire long enough all of us eventually get burned.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah that's for sure, not a big deal if you happen to have a semi recent backup ready. Good times. :sly:

from my PSX ~ NEO [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
recent backup in your storage at all times is ideal, a backup thats not so recent at very least. it makes things much easier/faster :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KiD3991:
So... What's the latest kernel? I miss deadlocks suddenly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
tf11 www.derkernel.com
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
What my mind is pondering tonight ( besides the normal just now wacky the quantum world is ) is that aosp needs some kind of multi window / chat head like feature.

Not the little tricks we have now where you can use floating windows either. Something of the likes of Samsung's version, cornerstone, the omni one in the works, windows surface etc.

Its not really needed ( can clearly be used but not a must have )on phones but with large tablets I feel its a must. The idea of having a 10 inch display with the resolution of a nexus 10, to be forced to run one app at a time on the screen is just absurd.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I like the way its done on RT (do they still use that name? Or is it just Surface now? I've seen recent references to Surface/Surface Pro instead of RT/RT Pro.)

For the phone, I think the recents menu is a good start, but too much space is wasted on the title of the app. The preview windows need to be bigger. I use it pretty frequently to look at text between two apps.

It would be nice if with bigger previews you could select an active pane and be able to control that app while still in the recents menu. Typing would be out because of screen real estate, but it would be nice to view two live panes at once. (Reading/controlling tapatalk on the active one while RSS feed scrolls on the non active, for example.