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[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

My Antutu first round score on Elemental 3.1
[HTC One S] teamet:
installed yesterday

bulletproof did not per se give instability problems.. it gave inusability problems. the system would hang for a few seconds before resuming to normal. there was a lag for several seconds before bringing up the keyboard in chrome for example. this one seems better

i know quadrant scores are crap but i like them :)
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

I had absolutely no issues with Bulletproof, it was snappy and smooth plus my battery life was extended at least 15% (guessing) but love playing with my own choices that's why I'm on Elemental
[HTC One S] teamet:
Sorry for mentioning the bulletproof.. OOT

I am curious though, why has there been added an X to the 3.0 versions - are they based on the htc one x? i thought that was impossible due to the large differences in chipsets
[HTC One S] sepsep 21:
hi flar2 can you upload the elementalx 3.2 in another site. i cant download it from dropbox. please help me.
[HTC One S] teamet:
perhaps it can be changed by setting your dns server to primary: 8.8.8.8 secondary: 8.8.4.4 (googles DNS servers)
[HTC One S] uvt_novice:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Same here happened to me when used elemental settings. Reflashed kernel a few times, but used different settings every time. Found it out that freeze and reboot caused when installing elemental x options (cpu, bus, cache, etc.). When stock settings used, it works fine, no freeze up, no random reboot.

Edit: I'm on v.3.2
[HTC One S] flar2:
If you have reboots, choose vanilla and lower overclock. Some phones can't handle it.
[HTC One S] uvt_novice:
CPU overclock to 1.7 Mhz is fine

Checked again, seems my device can't handle undervolt of 850 (default by Elemental X in Aroma). Increased to 875, and re-flashed - looks fine now.

Thanks a lot.

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It's not a dropbox though. Moreover, this is not a server issue for sure.

Check you internet and/or cell company provider.
[HTC One S] Zer0r:
Hi, flar2!

Just wonder if you had a time to take a look into charging feature?
[HTC One S] eddiemurphy:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Finally got elemental 3.2 to flash sucessfully on twrp 2.4.1.1 and it works flawlessly and battery/performance blalance on the intellidemand governor is great! Keep up the great work!
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
Great kernel flar2 working flawesly so far! Keep up the good work! take ur time:cool:

Just one small thing in 3.2 ver the 3d speed is decreased cmpared to stock venom 2.1

Just wanted to notece!

Great kernel
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Not a complaint just a curious question, how does the battery stay so cool even while plugged in charging its CRAZY! lol :thumbup::beer::D
[HTC One S] droidkevlar:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Any mirrors? Drop box says u r over ur limit
[HTC One S] RichardW1992:
Let me know if it doesn't work

Mirror: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzAqTfZsV1RAbGtYSmUwX0tibTQ/edit?usp=sharing

Instructions - click the link, it will open the .zip in google drive online preview. Just click file, and download.
[HTC One S] slainbybeats:
AW: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

It is working fine for me now as well! :)

Just chose a bit higher max screen off value while installing :)
[HTC One S] Kizi_PL:
Odp: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Cant download.. This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
hi flar2! just one question why the 3d scores of antutu are so low I used to get 3100 in 3d (1200mhz) now 2555 (1700mhz:eek:)
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

That's odd, one page back I posted my score on 3.1 and my score on 3.2 went up by 300
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

3.2
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Thats because your score kinda sucks, I got more with stock kernel lol.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

I've never received great scores anyway since being on any ROM, these are the best so far even if they are crap but let's see you or anyone post their current scores than I'll decide what's what:cool:;):D
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Here ones I posted when this come out. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36305092&postcount=40
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
My scores were always over 11k and 3d score over 3k now with 3.2 always below 11k and 3d score below 3k. but in contrary the rom feels so much smother :eek:
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

It says ur device 6100 or so but the one above says 11000 something, kinda conflicting don't cha think?? lol :confused::D
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Nope, 12k is antutu and 6k is quadrant.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Why are mine so low using Antutu, what am I missing cuz the kernel is AMAZING plus snappy and great battery life??:confused:
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Most likely some app you have running or just about anything lol but ya there is something up but if it's working great then don't worry about it.

Edit, Run quadrant and see what you get in that.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL][Mar9] ElementalX-3.2 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W
[HTC One S] flar2:
Please test this new version

Download:

ElementalX-S-3.3

Changes:

-add /dev/frandom

-add force fastcharge

-change makefile optimizations

-tweak init script
[HTC One S] Darknites:
No try quadrant, I just want to see something.
[HTC One S] Zer0r:
I love you, man!! You are the greatest! :victory:
[HTC One S] bstylz911:
i was on bulletproof before and i flashed this with wiping anything and when i go into my phone app it lags so much.
[HTC One S] Zer0r:
FastCharge can be turned on in KernelTuner in Misc Tweaks. By default it is turned off.
[HTC One S] Closed Source Project:
It's ALWAYS recommended to wipe Cache and Dalvik cache when flashing anything. Especially kernels.
[HTC One S] Rampage:
AW: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

For everyone's info:

Fastcharge may not be good to your battery over time. Keep in mind that we cannot exchange our batteries (that's the reason why zarboz didn't include it into his kernel).

But it's nice to have fast charge.

Thanks flar2 :)

Sent from Space
[HTC One S] Zer0r:
But from other side - why HTC made their chargers fastcharging? :confused: Actually fastcharge - is just higher charging current. And its pumping up the battery. IMHO.

Actually, 500mA current - is a standart for USB-powered supply. If device takes more - on old PC it could damage USB-controller. But nowadays almost all PC and notebooks have high-current USB-ports. And for most people this HTC's precaution is useless. :)
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
this version is slower than the previous one sometimes is laggy! im testing on batttery life and ill report back :)

Edit: battery life better
[HTC One S] joe9002:
could we have a non S2W version? i no time is precious but i never liked the function.
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
Just chose not to install s2w when in aroma! or disable it in system/etc/elemantelx.conf
[HTC One S] Rampage:
AW: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Just saying.

To prevent people complaining that nobody told them that their battery may f*** up.

Sent from Space
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

@Flar2 are you working on kernels with Zarboz if so what's next, your kernels so far are BRILLIANT but wonder how amazing they would be with both of you on it and I'll stick to 3.2 cuz it gives me everything and playing with the 3.2 kernel I have a snappy smooth phone plus my battery life in 2 days has been great also can you when you find time maybe edit the OP with a small tutorial on how to adjust some settings using SetCPU to play with the voltages and sampling rates etc.

Thanks
[HTC One S] flar2:
I talk to zarboz via pm, but we do a lot of stuff differently. You don't want our kernels to be the same, it's better to have choices. That's what linux/android is all about.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

His kernels won't work on Viper right, not that I'm unhappy cuz I LOVE ur kernel but like to play :D:thumbup: also did you consider my other request
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Anyone know of any good links in this forum on how to play with voltage/sampling rate settings like for beginners (kinda), just want to know what is safe also how to know what levels in undervolting with each frequency just want to keep on testing the limits at the sametime somewhat safe ya know?
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
As for undervolting use kernel tuner! My best setting are :

1890mhz: 1250 mV

1809mhz: 1225 mV

1728mhz: 1200 mV

1674mhz: 1175 mV

1512mhz: 1150 mV

1458mhz: 1137 mV

1404mhz: 1125 mV

1350mhz: 1125 mV

1296mhz: 1100 mV

1242mhz: 1100 mV

1188mhz: 1075 mV

1134mhz: 1075 mV

1080mhz: 1025 mV

1026mhz: 1000 mV

972mhz: 1000 mV

918mhz: 975 mV

864mhz: 975 mV

810mhz: 950 mV

756mhz: 950 mV

702mhz: 900 mV

648mhz: 900 mV

594mhz: 875 mV

540mhz: 850 mV

486mhz: 800 mV

384mhz: 725 mV

192mhz: 650 mV

For me they work just fine! you shuld test it. remember the highest safe voltage that you should g is 1425mv
[HTC One S] Closed Source Project:
Damn 650mV is low! Haha thanks I'm going to try this. My device is excellent with major overclocking and undervolting.

EDIT: I can't get lower than 700mV. Kernel tuner wont let me.

I run mine a bit lower than yours and no issues here.
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
I know the lower limit for this kernel is 700mv forgot it. If i use some lower voltages i get unstable in games and in playing music :p
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
I'm stuck in constant reboots now after attempting on lowering the 192 frequency to 725mv and I've done a cache & davlick wipes 3 times and reflashed the 3.2 kernel, still getting reboots and it won't stop cuz everytime I get to the main screen the frequency seems to locked to 1850 or something and my phone won't finish loading up before going back into a bootloop? DAMN IT:(
[HTC One S] Darknites:
So when you going to bench quadrant for me?
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
Just flash another kernel (bulletproof) as this makes kernel tuner to reset itself then reflash 3.2. this has happened to me before on ics

EDIT: Do not play too much with 192mhz voltage as you may get in deep sleep 750 is great :)
[HTC One S] Rampage:
AW: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

First of all: thanks for this kernel.

I want to give some feedback. I don't want to criticize you. I'm saying this because of $droyd$ :p

I'm having some nasty problems with the kernel.

1. If I use badass or intellidemand on both cores( cpu0:badass cpu1:badass / cpu0:intellidemand cpu1:intellidemand) the frequrenzy stays at the maximum for both cores all the time. But when I use for example badass on cpu0 and intellidemand on cpu1 everything is fine.

2. My media sounds (music and game sound) are f*cked up. The speaker makes a cracking sound just once after every reboot when I play music and then makes no more media sounds (ringtone works fine. Don't ask me why :) ). And my headphones are making weird sounds every time the bass drop comes in a song.

I don't have this issue with the bulletproof kernel.

3. I have extreeeeme lags after a second boot.

I never had such problems with ics kernels. I could always under volt -50mv. And over clocking to 2ghz worked perfectly too.

Maybe its just my phone that can't handle it anymore. :)

But it's nice to have so many features in a kernel :)

Sent from Space
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
I've reflashed with Bulletproof and wifi was not turning on and I know it has nothing to do with my home signal cuz everything else in my home regarding wifi is strong and active so I flashed Elemental 3.2 again and all is stable with no reboots but still missing wifi signal, it keeps saying 'error' when I go to settings to turn wifi on???:crying:
[HTC One S] Rampage:
AW: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Are you using viper 2.2 ?? Maybe the WiFi problem is caused by the ROM.

Sent from Space
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Reflash Viper with only doing the cache wipes.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
I'm on Viper 2.0, too many people with issues on the other versions but I think I thought of the problem cuz I never had issues with SetCPU only with Kernel Tuner so I flashed Bulletproof cuz it flashed better than I was able to get rid of KT and I think some of the voltage changes I did while on 3.2 using KT stuck and now I reflashed 3.2 with KT gone so lets see if this works
[HTC One S] trathiang:
Try flashing viper again but select no when it asks if you're using a custom kernel, even if you're using bulletproof.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
So far so good, I don't think Kernel Tuner should be suggested over SetCPU cuz everytime I used that it messed stuff up but not with SetCPU so take what you will from this. I strongly believe that the voltage changes I made using Kernel Tuner stuck in the system and caused the million reboots and when I got rid of it all seems good (for now), I'll keep reporting back but I'm playing it safe for now and only using SetCPU plus just basic settings until I know I'm good also thanks for the quick replies and suggestions:good:
[HTC One S] Sneakyghost:
AW: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Just don't forget that setCPU handles only one of the two CPU cores while kernel tuner can adjust both cores.

There's no other CPU controlling app that handles both cores. Most just work with CPU1 and ignore CPU0

sent from viper 2.2 Beta
[HTC One S] flar2:
ElementalX needs its own wifi module. Bulletproof uses teh stock wifi module. You probably ended up with the wrong module somehow. It was fixed when you reinstalled ElementalX.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

I'm good to go and I also use System Tuner Pro which shows both cpu 0&1 but just don't know why I always have issues with Kernel Tuner, I like it's functionality but feel safer using STPro along with SetCPU again thanks for quick help all of you:thumbup::)
[HTC One S] Mr.Nigma...:
kernel tuner its ok but you should be cautious what you check in setting its also more complicated than setcpu. setcpu sometimes has problems in setting both cores t what you desire :)

EDIT: sorry didnt see the pst above it was the same as mine
[HTC One S] rogervip888:
I met the exactly same situation yesterday.

Was on Elemental 3.2 then I flashed Bulletproof 1.1, the wifi was gone and showed an error in setting.

I am pretty sure it was OK with bulletproof 1.1, for I have been using it for days. Don't know what happened still.

But fortuntely, I flashed Elemental 3.2 again, and I've gotten my wifi back.:laugh:

I am using TWRP 2.4.3.0, just a thought, could it be the problem came from?

Edit: Thanks for Flar's explanation!
[HTC One S] flar2:
The installer from Bulletproof installs the stock wifi module, which works with stock kernel and Bulletproof kernel, but doesn't work with ElementalX

The installer from ElementalX installs it's own wifi module and the stock wifi module is renamed /system/lib/modules/prima_wlan.ko.bak

That's why it's important to run the installer.

Also, if you reinstall your ROM, you need to reinstall ElementalX. It is not necessary to reinstall Bulletproof though.
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Guys I'm good to go so no worries, I'll stick with 3.2 and my trusted System Tuner Pro plus SetCPU and I'm still having fun just won't use Kernel Tuner sorry
[HTC One S] superiscch:
Thanks for the kernel! :) I'm leaving eveything like normal, i just needed the s2w :D
[HTC One S] Drashna:
Since you have the Jelly Been kernel source, could you add the kernel call recording support to your awesome work?
[HTC One S] uvt_novice:
I wonder if you're running Venom 2.2? I guess yes, so I think it's rather that ROM's last update issue than kernel's.
[HTC One S] c19932:
This kernel is great. Thank you. I have 2 questions..

1. If I want the phone to be more responsive, would over clocking the l2 cache or the clock speed be more useful? (which one is more useful)

2. If the l2 cache is overclocked, would I need to increase the voltage for each clock frequency step to compensate for the l2 cache over clocking?

Thanks
[HTC One S] uvt_novice:
Has been for a day on v.3.3 - everything fine except battery drain (about 10% on standby every hour). Checked battery statistics - GPS is ON yet the GPS antenna is Off for sure. Tried everything - dalvik, cache cleanup, then reboot. For the first hour report it's fine, but them battery statistics reports that GPS is On again. Whether anyone else has the same issue...?

Everything was fine when I was used v.3.2...
[HTC One S] Hopie:
same here... i go back to 3.2.. battery drain was better with 3.2
[HTC One S] eterno13:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

Non agree!!
[HTC One S] rootrider:
Don't think so. The only main things you could be missing are:

-init.d support

-make /system permanently writable

But I think you've got that already. Otherwise it can be downloaded and flashed separately.

It should work on TD as well, as all JB roms use the stock kernel atm. This is the stock kernel but with additional modules, loading at boot time. There might be more modules available the next time, but basically we'll have to wait until HTC releases the kernel sources.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I'm seeing 5 files in the init.d folder and all start with 99 which if I remember right that's not a good idea if the order is wrong.
[HTC One S] jenkins-84:
Can't get overclock on blackout 1.5 either flashed boot.img but it's probably the same boot file anyway, tried flashing with GUI app but no luck

Sent from my carrier pigeon -v-
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I'm thinking its the rom but without someone trying on other roms I'm not sure.
[HTC One S] rootrider:
You should see this script in init.d:

99elementalx

---------- Post added at 12:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:43 AM ----------

fastboot flashing boot.img isn't enough here as at this point it only substitutes the same file. Some scripts (and binaries) need to be flashed as well. You should use the aroma installer and only that.
[HTC One S] jenkins-84:
I have already done that, did it first though twrp but didn't work so tried other ways and they didn't work either
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I got that and here picture of the rest.
[HTC One S] The.Penguin:
Would this work with jellybean nonsense
[HTC One S] ickedmel:
It should.
[HTC One S] BehradGH:
@flar2

Working great on Android Sense Best Stock v3.0 . Great Job .
[HTC One S] Hopie:
is this kernel without governors?

only Standard governors

Sent from my HTC One S powered by TrickDroid
[HTC One S] rootrider:
So far yes. As its v0.50 time will tell us (and maybe flar2). :rolleyes:

Let's hope the best.
[HTC One S] mrluker:
I hope sleep2wake :D
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Even overclock?
[HTC One S] jenkins-84:
Couldn't get it working on blackout Rom but it overclocks on trick worked first time :D
[HTC One S] rootrider:
A couple of hours ago I flashed blackout rom and installed this kernel before first boot. No issues - it just worked out of the box. So if you want to stick to blackout you should reinstall from scratch.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Em I installed from scratch and I even deleted the init.d folder and reflashed the zip and still nothing.
[HTC One S] rootrider:
So which bootloader you're on?

Did you a factory reset within TWRP?

Did you run this kernels aroma installer before first boot?
[HTC One S] Darknites:
1.06 and I even fastbooted the boot.img and flashed the zip without the flashing of the boot.img and when I flashed the rom I had this boot.img in the rom so I don't get why this not working for me.
[HTC One S] rootrider:
Start TWRP

wipe with factory reset

install your rom.zip - don't reboot (not necessary here)

install Elemental-S-JB-v0.5.zip (using ticked defaults)

reboot

check if root is available

install kernel tuner or similiar

check your settings, it should be 1.7 Ghz

now you can change settings
[HTC One S] flar2:
Interesting. Minimal changes between 3.2 and 3.3, shouldn't be any different.

But keep me posted and I'd like to hear others.
[HTC One S] flar2:
I don't get the behaviour with the governors on mine, though it will be on the highest and lowest frequencies most of the time. I also have no idea what the lag is about, but check minfree settings perhaps.

For sound, it could be a voltage issue. I don't modify anything to do with sound in the kernel, but there have been a couple of people who said their sound was affected by undervolting. Try +50mV and see if it helps the sound.
[HTC One S] Rampage:
AW: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

OK the lag was gone after a fresh install.

Sent from Space
[HTC One S] rootrider:
Try to check out if both cores are persistently running on 100% load when the lags occur (bit difficult so).

And if running GPU overclock by installation default set GPU_OC=0 in etc/elementalx.conf
[HTC One S] Clom801:
Blue screen on venom after reboot

Hello,I really want to use this kernel but I keep getting a blue screen after I reboot on viper ROM.I thought it could be the Rom but I tried to reinstall without this kernel and everything is fine. could it be because I use kernel tuner? and if so would I be able to use set cpu? I'm trying to see if I'm the only one this keeps happening to. I can run other AOSP Roms and kernels with no issues as well so I doubt it it's the phone. thanks in advance
[HTC One S] CarstenDutch:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

@flar2

I like your Bulletproof kernel more than ElementalX.

Btw.

Is it difficult to compile the new released Adreno libs with the kernel we have got now? Or does it only work on android 4.2 MR1?
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

It's not the ROM and not the kernel either, did you flash the boot.img first before the kernel cuz that is a must to be safe
[HTC One S] Clom801:
I just did a fresh install of this kernel without kernel tuner with no issues. I Am kinda afraid to run set cpu so for now I will use the pre sets in aroma. Thanks
[HTC One S] TheCrow1372:
Re: [KERNEL] [Mar10] ElementalX-3.3 | OC | UV | ZRAM | intellidemand | ROW | S2W

I am the one so far that ran into issues using Kernel Tuner and not saying it's not a good app but I personally like SetCPU and System Tuner Pro, it all comes down to how comfortable you are and how much knowledge you have in playing around with this AWESOME kernel so just play but play safe:thumbup:;):)
[HTC One S] flar2:
Kernel Tuner is great, just be careful that it doesn't apply things at boot (unless you want it to). When you install Kernel Tuner it automatically defaults to setting things at boot, which can cause some problems.
[HTC One S] BoazCoenraad:
I used to be on version 2.5 and wanted to update to 3.3. Installing leads to an bootloop. Re-flashing version 2.5 makes everything works again. I'm on viper rom 2.2. What could be the problem?
[HTC One S] flar2:
Are you s-off?