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[Galaxy S III General] pedrohp:
I think that this matter is simply solvable:

If you care for having an "open" device, that you can hack-on, buy a Nexus! The price to pay is not having a hardware as great as the Flagship of the year...

If you prefer to have the hottest-of-the-moment, buy the new S4 and just be happy with it.

And always remember: Hacking your phone is a bonus, an extra. When you bougth the phone it did not had a label saying "Easily Hackable"
[Galaxy S III General] rickoslyder:
At this stage I'm giving Samsung a month after the release of the S4 to release 4.2.1 drivers. If they take longer than that for those drivers, I'll give up all hope on Exynos sources and buy either the Xperia Z or HTC One(M7).
[Galaxy S III General] donalgodon:
I'm feeling the same way. The ONE is being released in a "Developer Edition" with an unlocked bootloader, etc. I'm sorta' torn between it and the Xperia Z. I'm thinking that Sony has done a better job, and I want my next device to run CM in the best way possible.
[Galaxy S III General] rickoslyder:
I'm in Ireland, no Developer's Edition for me :( This alone may end up making the decision for me, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
Lack of interest. Intellectual property. Costs involved (man hours to prepare sources... extremely minimal for an organization as big as Samsung but can be used as a reason).

Also FESM is the wrong approach, it's pointless, immature and will get nowhere under the current direction.
[Galaxy S III General] harise100:
What about this: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2176021/

Apparently Exynos 5 and 4 will get "native" kernel support in Linux 3.8+ which will be used in KLP.

Will this help?
[Galaxy S III General] stefankorun:
I know it was immature but if anyone from cm team stood up and presented a better idea most of us would go for it. They just bashed the users who hope to get something or bashed Samsung for not cooperating.
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
We all have been through this before...

If you think them being completely honest with the users is 'bashing', then you are in the wrong place.

They did bash Samsung, but we all did the same. codeworkx and the Exynos maintainer have been through a lot of issues just getting the devices to work.

CM team already tried a lot of things - they are much better connected than any of us... but in the end Samsung did not cooperate, you should look up Andrew Dodd in G+ and read the Exynos maintainer saga.

All of them are recommending to ditch Samsung and any Exynos device. Snapdragon has a much much better support.

The smartest thing you can do right now is to think about this whole incident next time you are about to purchase a new device.

tl;dr: Social media harassment won't work, Samsung doesn't care. Vote with your wallet.
[Galaxy S III General] gaspernemec:
I already sorted myself out:

Want perfectly running cm or other AOSP based rom - buy nexus

Want features, beefed and bloated rom - buy ANY OTHER device on market

I dont understand why people buy NON NEXUS device just to run cm on?
[Galaxy S III General] seanpr123:
MicroSD, removable battery are two big ones for me..

One question, with sources being an issue for us with the international version, how is the AT&T model fairing with AOSP roms?

Do they perform better/have better battery life or are they in the same boat as us?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
The AT&T Galaxy SIII, a.k.a "d2att" has the dual core snapdragon S4 SoC (1.5 GHz clock rate) so it fares a lot better because Qualcomm provides the necessary binaries and source codes.
[Galaxy S III General] seanpr123:
Thanks, but how would you define "fares a lot better"?

What sort of differences could you expect to see running AOSP on both?

Only thing that's killing me is idle battery drain (screen on could be better too), can't get it low enough and sort of wondering if I should purchase the d2att to compare.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Well, it's like this.

The Exynos SoC is very locked down. Locked down as in Samsung not providing the proper sources and documentation. We have broken sources with lots of Gingerbread leftovers which requires a lot of dirty hacks to even perform at this level of what we have today.

Qualcomm, on the other hand, are very dev friendly. They provide the necessary sources and documentation so that AOSP can perform nicely, far better than what aosp on the i9300 performs. Now, I don't specifically know how the SGH-I747/d2att performs with aosp (I can't seem to find any what works and doesn't work kind of post in the d2att forums) but I would say it performs a lot better than the i9300.
[Galaxy S III General] erto90:
R: How is it going with the Exynos sources?

I saw both running cm10.1. I can crearly say that,is speed terms, they are identical, also thanks of hw composer libs from leaked 4.2.1.

They simply haven't camera bugs and maybe,but unable to test that,better battery..

Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] winlinmac001:
Which screen protector should I opt for? SGP Steinheil Ultra Fine vs. Realook Ultra Crystal Screen Protector?

I've used SGP before, but never liked the application process, however, the screen protector was of excellent quality. Whereas Realook claims to be reusable.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Clamhost:
I personally prefer SPG. Always been a fan, and they always have provided good quality screen protectors.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] winlinmac001:
Realook has been in the market longer; and I just read that SGP's Ultra Fine screws around with the S-pen. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SteveYorks:
I've had my Note a few months now and I still believe its the best tablet out there. The nexus 10 does have a higher resolution but the

Note screen is beautiful anyway, also I use the S pen for everything and it has an SD card, so that tips it for me.

I remember years ago when I was a lad buying hi-fi equipment or stuff like that, Samsung was always at the bottom of the pile, the Beko

of the hi-fi world, if you had Samsung, you just had crap. Sony and the others were the things to aspire to, and if you were really

lucky, Technics! So it really does amaze me how samsung have seemingly come from nowhere over the past few years and are in the

position they are in now.

I had the original Galaxy phone and I think that represented a milestone with its combination of Amoled screen and Android operating

system. The numbers it sold in clearly showed Samsung they had created a winner and that this was the direction to go in. Thankfully

they did. After that I had the original Note. The return of the stylus to the small screen devices was a masterstroke. I sold the Note a

few months ago as it was a bit big for me and I was missing the Sense user interface I had years ago on the HTC Blackstone. I'm now

using a One S.

I'd never be daft enough to be like one of those iSheep who cant think beyond what a marketing campaign tells them, or who has no

sense in value for money. But am I a Samsung Fanboy? Definitely. :)

P.S. Samsungs projected phone sales for 2013 are over half a billion units.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] JJEgan:
Samsung been producing top class electronics for years .

VCR TV DVD Hard |Drives SGS1 2 3 and Note 10.1 are just a few of my Samsung products .

Sony no longer cut the mustard in my view .

jje
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
I had the Original Samsung Galaxy Nexus and was only so-so on it. I quickly traded it for a Motorola Razr Maxx. But the S III looks like a great phone and most people that own it seem to really like it. The Note phones are just too big for my tastes. But it would be cool to have that form factor with a pen. I'm hearing rumors the S IV may have a pen with a smaller form factor than the Note. We'll see.

But I won't make the decision on my next phone, or any other product, just based on my love of the Note 10.1. But I will give them serious consideration, unlike Apple. I have no desire to go down that dark path.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
Only for tables i love the built quality of htc phones :) i had hd2 for 3 years without a single scratch and i may consider htc butterfly as my next phone, but on tablets i have nerarly owned every samsung tablet out there and i will not buy any tablet rather than samsung again
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TheWerewolf:
Fanboy? No...

In fact, I dislike Samsung because of some of their surreal business practices - like having reciprocal 'no sell' policy between Canada and the US that prevents me from buying Samsung products from stores like Amazon.com. Which would be ok - if Samsung Canada carried the same products as Samsung US, or at least allowed you to order them *through* Samsung Canada - but they don't. This makes their opening the first physical Samsung Store in Burnaby, BC, Canada rather surreal since the store carries a tiny fraction of what Samsung US sells.

The customer support is often wonky and frustrating (note, we North Americans are still waiting for *any* updates for the Note while it's already rolling out for the second time in Europe).

They try too hard to be Apple and get it wrong too often.

That being said, here's the reality - I have an Q1U-V tablet, a Series 7 Slate, a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy Note 10.1. I have two external DVD drives, both Samsung. About the only thing I don't own made by Samsung is a desktop computer or monitor. I've had to buy most of them by driving to the US and buying them over the counter and bringing them back to Canada.

Why?

Simple. While they don't get it perfectly right - they get far closer to what I want than anyone else does. In the end, really - I have no other options. And Samsung seems to be slowly fixing the things I find annoying - so I'm prepared to cut them a lot of slack.

So am I Samsung fan boy? No. But they are my main consumer electronics producer for now...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jonphinguyen7:
Nope. I tolerate them only because of the S-Pen. As soon as someone else comes out with one that runs Android I will jump ship immediately.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xMimyx:
I don't really value the name of the company ..

Even apple , I believe it produces bad products when it comes to smartphones and tablets aka ipads .. but I dream of a mac laptop .. :o

I had a Samsung and I'm buying the next tablet from samsung again too ..

ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PEN AND THE SOFTWARE FEATURES ..

I have to admit It sucks when it comes to quality .. I never expected it would feel this bad ..

but It's still a Great device even with the bad feeling of the material of it :good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] JSale:
I may have tendencies of fanboyism but tbh they do make quality products, it all started with my S3 then i bought an SSD and now the Note, all of which serve me well and work flawlessly.

I feel that the large departments for R&D which they possess play a large role in how good these devices are, e.g they have shrunk the die in many of their mobile chips in order to lower power consumption and heat production. Not many companies are capable of such things and this in my books is why samsung excels.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] normal42:
Nope

While I love my Note 10.1 and have had it since the first day it was released in the US it is far from the perfect tablet.

Proprietary charger.

Always a big negative in my book for any device. If you want to have more functionality than a standard usb form factor charger offers then include a second port for that functionality but leave the charging to a standard usb form factor plug.

Screen resolution.

While I have no real complaints about the screen I expect an apple style rollout this year of a new Note 10.1 with a higher resolution screen making all of us early adopters have to decide if the upgrade is worth it for something we all wanted and expected in the beginning.

Software Updates.

It is frustrating to watch multiple updates come out across the globe for items in the same family of devices without getting even a hint or update on the progress of updates for your region. I think Samsung could do a lot to quiet people's complaints on the update delays by communicating the progress and causes of delays to their users. Even without a definite release date just being able to see that it is in the pipeline would do a lot to satisfy me.

And one final minor issue for me.

Placement of the S-Pen in the body of the device.

The pen placement really confuses and frustrates me. It seems that the note is designed to be held in a landscape orientation, speaker placement, volume button directions, native app orientations, camera positions, accessory orientation, etc. That being the case why does the pen come out of the bottom of the device? If I am using a stand I have to lift up the tablet to get the pen out or put it back in place. When I hold the tablet in portrait orientation, which I do most of the time, because I am right handed I have to choose ease of access to the s-pen (camera to the left), or keeping the light sensors uncovered (camera to the right). I would guess the same from the reverse would be true for lefties. Upper left corner vertical in landscape, next to the power button, would have made much more sense as then the pen would be easily accessible from any position other than upside down while keeping the power and volume buttons accessible as well.

The note 10.1 is a great tablet. It is fantastic for taking notes and as a digital sketchbook but it isn't anything that would make me into a fanboy for Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smegatron:
I do love my note 10.1. The best tablet for me right now. Not the best at everything, but best overall. The nexus would have been my second choice.

Higher Res screen is no good for me as my eye sight is not as good as it used to be. So the nexus would not have been beneficial.

The nexus had no SD card slot, may as we have an ipad.

A big plus for me with the note is USB charge. I can go travelling and use the same extended battery for my phone and tablet.

My old tablet was an ald xoom. I sold it for 160 ukp and bought the note for 330 with 80 cashback, so it was a sub 100 ukp upgrade.:)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] tarheels55:
Yes it has. I have a Glaxy Player, GS3 and now a Note 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I think "fanboy," especially the way it's used on XDA, implies a kind of blindness favoring a specific manufacturer. I bought (coming from a i9100 SGS2) the Teg3 One X over the SGS3 when they came out because I liked the display, design, and Sense vs. TW.

Here's a quote from Samsung's CEO made in June:

"A particular focus must be given to serving new customer experience and value by strengthening soft capabilities in software, user experience, design, and solutions."

http://www.informationweek.com/mobi...ung-ceo-software-key-to-device-wars/240002193​

It's clearly being taken to heart. The welcome and unique capabilities of the Note series make other Android devices look barren. I liked the features (I'm a productivity user) of the Note 10.1 so much I got a N2. And it has even more features than the 10.1. I was playing with a friend’s N10 over the holidays and it looks like a barren wasteland feature-wise compared to the Note. Similarly, he was amazed at what the Note could do that his N10 couldn't.

Samsung's raised the bar for other manufacturers in features and usability. From the "Phone X" leaks at Motorola it seems they've gotten the message. The N4/Optimus G and One X+/DNA/Butterfly are simply re-hashes of existing direction with better h/w. To me, features are like crack; once you're hooked they're hard to give up. So I'm not married to Samsung and would consider other devices but not if it means I'm going backward.

In the high-end space I think manufacturers that just mildly evolve their devices are going to be screwed going forward. As it is, their a generation behind Samsung and if Samsung keeps moving the goal ahead their struggles will only continue. Motorola survives because of Verizon and HTC actually lost market share with the introduction of the One series. From a volume and market share perspective everyone other than Samsung’s in trouble. It'll be interesting to see what's announced at CES and MWC in the next couple of weeks.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
I laughed a little :) I'm not sure I quite agree with they "try to hard to be Apple and get it wrong too often." comment. What does that mean exactly?

Frankly Samsung has very clearly innovated, beyond and better than has Apple in many cases. I think one can only fault, if that's even a realistic term in this case, things like the heavy use of plastic vs metal/glass... but is that even really fair? Those same materials are what make the unit so "flexible" in many cases (replaceable battery, internal sd card, light weight, more resiliency when dropped).

I think if anyone is playing catch up now it's Apple. Samsung isn't building knock-offs, they are building better and in many ways different mouse traps. Even Samsung's software is well polished comparatively.

The only thing I dislike on the Note 10.1 is the lower res screen. But that's simply because I know there's better out there. However that doesn't mean it's low quality, quite the contrary it's an excellent screen.... I just wish it was as "excellent" as the one on my Note 2 :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GETCASHMONEY:
It's not that I won't buy from other manufactures, Samsung has just made consistently the best products I have use recently. They have converted me from HTC for phones, and Nexus tablets. Now I own a galaxy s3, 8 Samsung pebble, a note 10.1, and a Samsung laptop. As long as they keep up the innovation and good customer service, I think I will stay with them for a long time. As much as everyone complains on these forums, I actually think their rollout schedule of updates is really good
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
I'm not a samsung fan boy and i will never be one. Will never spend a penny on samsung products again.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] HUYI:
why?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It would appear not to matter. ;) Motorola and HTC both had new products in the period and still lost market share. LG maintains its percentage of market share primarily with low to mid-range devices. According to reports the N4's sold only 400K units so it's in high-demand from lack of supply.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I can say I.support Samsung now. This note 10.1 and SG3 are my first Samsung devices. They perform so well I left them stock. Not even rooting them. I underestimated them. They do produce some quality products.

I will say though I loved my previous Transformer Prime. Only reason I got refund on it(to buy note 10.1) was because I saw its forum and developement scene kin agoing downhill. It still was, IMO, a great experience. Its the price we pay to be on cutting edge technology at the time. I still have my Nexus7 to satisfy my Tegra3 /Asus needs though ;)

I'd easily recommend either Samsung device I own to others. They work great out the box. Only thing I don't like is their updating software routines. but its cool with me since device works so well out the box.

Also I will likely be getting a Note 2 shortly. Then give my SG3 to my woman. I love that huge. 5.5in. SuperAmoled. Screen on it. It'll compliment my tablet well. Can you believe that that company Haewei is releasing a 6in+. Phone? Love it. Even the rumored SG4 will likely be at least 5ins. I love the phablet category!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Whoever thought we'd see that day. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jauger:
I'm having fun with my Note, it's a toy to me....Samsung has to do a lot more to lure me away from my HTC phones........
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] skadebo:
No because there are significant compromises in the product and lack of accessories in Canada. No keyboard dock, the proper pen with eraser is not available, nor covers (at least not easily). I had to order everything from Hong Kong. The build quality is pretty crap and I find the Note itself pretty ugly. I wish Apple made an iPad Pro, I'd be all over it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hyrola:
My first Samsung devices are the S3 and Galaxy Note 10.1.

I actually owned every iPhone (expect for 3GS and the 5) ever created and bought every iPad that came out. I have a Macbook Pro. I wasn't a fanboy of apple just always bought there stuff because they had the best.

I use to say that Samsung copied apple. Well that all changed when I bought the S3 and now that i have 10.1 it would be pretty hard to buy another apple product. Apple would have to do something pretty amazing.

"Now i say yeah they copied but they do it better"
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] anirudhks:
I am still a partial fanboy not completely mainly because of the AMOLED SCREEN and Stylus , for a long time I have been SONY fan they have the best designs of the phone till date , I owned a Xperia X10 that was a revolutionary design with Android , even now they have the best designs , and in 2013 they are coming up with similar phones , the only problem with SONY is crappy updates of OS and they are always one generation behind , 100% of the phones as of now are still ICS and Dual core so very poor in updates , I wish there was a company who could copy all the features of all companies LOL and create one good sturdy phone

like SONY GALAXY ONE X+
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] JSale:
The note 10.1 isnt AMOLED...

The note phones are however :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] anirudhks:
Yep correct :) I am sure a note fan ,, I own the note 1 note 2 and the 10.1 ..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] JSale:
Lol, do you take a lot of

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(⌐■_■)

notes?

YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] anirudhks:
I gave my note to my wife but yes the S note is very handy and that has replaced my Dary in the office I use it a lot for all the meetings I attend

or any trainings that I attend , very handy on the 10.1 as it the size of just the notebook , and what makes it even more special ?

I add some voice notes as well by adding recording of the training stuff

so I can hear it back when i am on train and go through my notes . in functionalities like this Note 10.1 is class apart from the other tablets..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] JSale:
I mostly use mine for annotating PDFs for my physics and maths studies :)

Back on topic, I believethat the note 10.1 alone gas not made me a fanboy, but maybe a more appreciative owner.

Regards

Jack
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] anirudhks:
Yea agree it defnitely is proud to own this device than another android tablet ..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
pretty much agree with all this. Not a samsung fanboi at all. Don't like the external feel of their devices but they are king overall of the internals (sd card, replaceable batteries on their phones). Tablet really came down to nexus 10 or note 10. Heard too many bad things about the Asus tablets overall. Nexus 10 was on backorder and couldn't play with it in store. Not spending that kind of money without being able to hold it first.

Will be getting note2's next month as well. Since Verizon seems to keep neutering HTC devices, don't have much choice.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] klau1:
Just came here to say, fanboys suck.

Never takes much intelligence to join a bandwagon with fixed preferences.

The lazy love fixed universal answers to life.

Cuz critically evaluating everything is hard and requires effort.

I have hardly ever bought anything from one company more than once in a row. Sony, Asus, Samsung, pretty much all over the map. No one company has ever continually had the best product for more than 1 or 2 product cycles at a time.