yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
But what are iPhones ? ;) ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
they are phones, and a relatively well made product, but from a crappy company.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Trade off battery, because it makes the Z3 2mm thicker (not exceptionally compact anymore is it?) and weigh as much as N5. And to me there is no trade off. I have no issues charging my phone every night and the Alpha can last a day. So what is the extra battery capacity for? So I can brag that my phone can last 1.6days? Ive said it many times, if it can last a day that's all it matters. Unless you homeless you end up sleeping near power outlet. And I bump charge all day anyways. So once you get used to it battery life becomes a fiction. So battery is actually the reason I would go with the Alpha.

Waterproofing! Well all modern phones are water proof to some extend, so you don't have to worry about few raindrops here or there. Unless you are planning on swim with your phone, waterproofing is a marketing gimmick.

As far as camera goes, I am not a professional photographer. Any modern camera is good enough for me. I know some of you are more picky than others, but I don't care about camera.

SD card is only relevant on devices with less than 16GB with my usage pattern. Gimmick in any decent device since 2012.

Camera button? Seriously? Do you know how many times I used that on my Lumia 925? Only to show my mom that it is an option. Gimmick!

So here we are. Alpha gets, .1" more real estate, which matters a lot more on a smaller device than 5"+ device., it is lighter, smaller, and I like the way it looks better. Notice I didn't put fingerprint scanner as an advantage, because I think it is a gimmick too.

And to all of you bashing the physical keys, remember that we are talking 4.6-4.7" devices with limited real estate so for these device it might actually be a pro. I get it, it makes the phone taller.

But most of all, I said that Alpha is the better phone for me, not the better phone. What I put more value on is different than what others do, so this is my point of view.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Well said but to each his own ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lol opinion page http://www.computerworld.com/article/2687612/oh-the-irony-iphone-6-copies-the-nexus-4.html
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zius:
Where can i download the latest kernel? Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anshumandash:
With Nova you can swipe even at the bottom of the screen to pull down notification bar [emoji6]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Rastakat Update!

Changelog:

Heads Up .... option to change color and transparency for background and text
Z3 dalvik and bionic patch
Screenshot delate option in notification area
Option to built with openjdk, java 6 + java 7
Use a seekbar preference for transistion animations, automatically adds more options to set
Miui Style custom carrier in statusbar
Contact details on incomming call

AFH Link //mako\\

Have fun and enjoy!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
right here, B5 http://goo.gl/AEIV0t
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] original21:
Hi Simms,

Its been a long time since the last time we spoke. I decided to buy a nexus 4 as a spare phone (i have the HTC M8), so i am going back to basics.... Get the kernel right, use TRINITY.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
wow, it HAS been a long time! the n4 is my spare as well, and I use it as a WiFi device at work. the n5, of course, is my daily at this point :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] original21:
So Simms, does the B5 work for all roms (4.4.2-4.4.4)? Do i need to flash anything else (e.g. wifi fix)?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
trinity is always aosp, so itll never work with cm or anything cm(CAF) based. B5 is for android 443/444, and everything works :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mixtapes08:
Nice to see you here dude.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] original21:
It's nice to see all of you, back in the same old neighbourhood!?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I must say Google play's commercials are excellent. What a great marketing team.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
So... Anybody think they can point me to a tutorial on how to add voltage control to a kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you have to build a kernel, you can't just add it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
Hmmmm think there's a guide that can show me how to use this kernel as a base and add it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
There are a ton of devs here willing to help. Just pm one. Morfic is probably busy, so defconoi, stratosk, and mrg666 come to mind. They are all amazing devs btw (you probably already know that).

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Callmealdy and AK can help too
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
If they reply I'd feel like I'm talking to a celebrate lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Pretty sure mrg666 has a quide on how to build his kernel in his OP.

Taking that and just plugging in trinitys source ( I think it's on bitbucket) and getting it to build would a good first step. Then worry about adding in the voltage control after that..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Rom Update

Changelog:

Lockscreen Notifications

What an long list of an changelog eh?

Android File Host

Enjoy folks and have a nice Sunday :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
for those curious about lollipop and the n4 https://plus.google.com/114892667463719782631/posts/haoy5nDv6yr
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Yeah I had a heart attack!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RCDuke:
I'm just happy the N4 is getting any support, but a full build is even better. I probably won't switch to it though until stuff like GravityBox or nav button switchers are updated. I am used to having the back button on the right, and after a month of trying the L dev build with it on the left was just annoying.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] amistral32cy:
kernel

Morfic Ive been patiently waiting since your GN kernels :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
The new google camera update has improved HDR. Well I think it does ? to be honest I haven't used it in a while

Edit: MUCH IMPROVED

Some colors come out supersaturated but an overall improvement

White balance in low light is TOTALLY off

Nvmd EDIT 2: False alarm
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lolz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Wow. This guy must be a big fan [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56472320
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Hey! I cant believe after 2715 pages trinity is dead! Really loved this :) hope see it in about menu again :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
LOL WHAT. Trinity's never dead. Morfic's always busy and probably needs a break. Keep burning -rascarlo
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
guys, its kind of a sad day. 2 weeks ago i got a nexus 6, and i still have my nexus 5. so i went ahead and sold my nexus 4 today. and its really gone now :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hoochie_Coochie:
Sad times, hopefully you'll still hang around the n4 forums
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i will occasionally. but the more important thing to do would be to get a hold of [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] and find out when he will work on a lollipop n4 kernel and who will be needed to test. i know he just started work on the n6 kernel. n5 kernel will need to be made as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Nexus 4 is on its way out too. Digitizer is bad so its either fix it or get me a hammerhead. Can't afford the Shamu and its too big anyways
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
that was my fear with shamu. but its not as big in reality as i thought. after a week of use, my hammerhead started to feel tiny :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Keep lying to yourself :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
SadlyI waited for nexus 6 to release but where i leave the only brand u cant buy phone from is motorolla-__- any way you guys think which phone is better to buy !

I expect a perfect screen + a good rom support as my friend has nexus 5 and i hate it I wont buy it but i my self think g3 or z3 would be a good offer or maybe the new htc thing which will arrive :( would be happy if u help
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
seriously. at this moment, shamu feels right, like its the "right" size. the nexus 5 used to feel perfect to me, in size. now whenever i pick it up it feels light, and toyish. and just too small to use :confused:

in my head, i know its big. and for years ive been using my devices with two hands, not one. the nexus s was probably the last one handed device that ive owned. the galaxy nexus became a two handed device. so in use, shamu is like all the other nexus since the galaxy nexus, for me. and shamus use is just like them, except i can see things that are on the screen better :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Off and on topic.

Remember all the Android purist that would say phst, who cares how the device feels!

Lol.

PS. The woman hates her 5. Why? She got the white one. Even after I told her to get the black. I also told her to just get a dbrand or something and be quiet. But yeah. She don't listen
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Why do you hate the n5. Personally while big step backwards in visual esthetics and build quality, n5 is very ergonomic and has near perfect screen. Camera is plenty good for my use. But the build quality is a big letdown.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I'm waiting for next year. Kinda considering an s6. Looking for a good camera, good and removable battery (so I can replace it for long term use), and speed. Also, a 64-bit processor for bragging rights and so that my psychological need for the latest and greatest is assuaged.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Mmmmm exactly!the reason I bought n 4 was the great look among the available phones that time! Ans reason I love htc phones is design :D I hate n5 because of bad battery worse than n4!! Worse look with that ugly camera and front speaker ! Bad speaker !! I mostly listen music with loud speaker! And at last its an old device with kind of old hardware :/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm waiting for this http://youtu.be/MERVDot6d90 or a device with the same specs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I wish there was something I'm between the 808 and 810.

The 808 has a lesser gpu than the GPU in the 805. 418 vs 420. And even lesser than the 430 in 810. They will probably bump the GPU clocks up on the new process the 808 and 810 are on but still.

For a ideal experience you want to have the best gpu possible. Especially with these IMHO stupid high resolution panels. I want as much gpu compute power and bandwidth as possible.

I prefer the core count and configuration in the 808 to the 810 but the lesser gpu gets the gas face.

To me it makes more sense to put the biggest and most powerful gpu you got into a SoC that uses less AP cores. Even though the AP cores are small you still get to save die space. You'll get to use more of your thermal/power budget powering the GPU and or the cores at higher performance States

It's decisions and roadpmaps like this that explain why Qualcomm and these other silicon players still don't even have any custom ARM v8 cores sampling that I know off.

The ideal solution is easy. GPU GPU GPU. And higher performing IPC AP cores that together don't burn up your thermal and power budget in seconds.

The worst part is these companies and their engineers know this. But they have to sell these things to their customers who want to play the ghz race again. The core count nonsense.

I believe Qualcomm has and had enough clout to say to their OEM partners. Listen stupid, we're not building some stupid SoC for you. We're doing it right. If you don't like it go to mediatek or whoever else had generic arm IP cores and either no radio solutions or terrible ones. They were probably scared their partners wouldn't pay more for SoC is the reason I suspect. Since doing the SoC the right way would use more silicon and thus be more expensive to make.

Anyways I forgot what I yapping about. Ended up being I still don't like the state of mobile SoC industry basically.

4 a53s and 4 a57s, make it stop!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015

Based on the Qualcomm estimates 418 is 20% faster than 330, 420 is 40% and 430 should be 56%. That said the GPGPU performance of 808 will likely be greater the 805. Another, downer for 808 is lack of DDR4. But at the end of the day I think 810 is built for tablets. OEM will shave it into phones but the battery cost they'll have to pay for it will far outweigh the performance advantage. 808 should be the sweet spot for phones. But if 810 are popular among all OEM maybe you and I will be lucky and they will put 808 in a lower priced performance mainstream phones with 1080p.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I'd take it with 1080p. That would the be sane thing to do. But this is mobile! OEM's will just continue the spec war regardless if it leads to the optimal device.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
So I guess trinity kernel is dead now?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Trinity Kernel per device isn't currently under development, consider it to be in a medically induced coma.

You might think that's the same, rest assured if it was your child, induced coma vs death made a huge difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
Please come back!!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Trinity is still in induced comma, so pray for it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
I don't wanna! Lol jk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's ok guys, you can admit what you truly miss. Me ranting on screw ups!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
Well that two but man I wanna see the kernel as well lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Qualcomms trepn profiler is now available as a standard apk file on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quicinc.trepn
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Good shît man! Haven't heard a rant lately. How's the OPO?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's really good for me.. Running stock cm11s. Just not the very latest build.

There are so many things to rant about, I don't even know where to begin really.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
The g4 looks like a beast of a phone
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Whats wrong with the latest cm11s. I believe that's what

My brother is running.

Always thought s808 is better suited for phones. Esp. If they keep the red reasonable for a phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It just doesn't feel as snappy and gets worse battery for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I'm impressed with how pure stock 5.1 run's on this device.. Its running really smooth and I'm under full throttle as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
So whatsapp gets material design update.

Meanwhile hangouts..... Which is the stock sms app on the n5. Oh and the stock sms app on the 4 is um.... Yeah. And the stock sms app on the 6 is messenger. Good job Google!

PS. Thank you Google for the pop up, cough I mean heads up!, notification every time I get a msg. That along with the either the sound or vibration that comes along with it really makes my day! Not..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
You bought a nexus, why do you worry what's stock? Only thing stock should be unlocked bootloader :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

The best Nexus I ever had was the S! Simms had a badass NS that could over clock stupidly (RIP). I was able to dirty flash MIUI over CM without a hiccup. What a phone that was, so many good times with it. The N4 is OK but I just don't love it as much as the NS, same thing with the Gnex, it was OK but it was no NS. I'm not surprised Morfic would sell it.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Im using Conservative
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ondemand

Sent from my Nexus 4

---------- Post added at 05:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:29 PM ----------

Man I'm out, I'm going to get some KFC. Thanks for the update Morfic...and Simms for posting it. It's real good without lock screen lag!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Count me in. I finally made the probably best decision of my live.

I completely jumped of junk ROMs.

My mouth won't close. Totally raped by such a gorgeous themed ROM. And it is sooo smooth with latest Trinity.

Almost top notch. We are the n4 ROM elite I think. :D

via my ∞ awesome Nexus 4

Ready for more Android awesomeness?

...then check this out!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

One of few who live on Trinity threads? :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

For real? Are you running on demand? What is your min / max set at? I only ask because I still have the lag in the dot animation on the lock screen. But that is the only thing that has slight lag. Unlocking is fast and smooth and everything else is very fast and responsive. Not worried since I will continue using this kernel as it is and will always be my kernel of choice. Have yet to use one that works as smoothly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You missed me on irc, stick around longer after asking if I'm there. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rascarlo:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

We always miss you Sir
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Oh yea, you know me, I'm always here.

Yes, fo real. Ondemand - 384-1242.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Benrees21,

I am using ondemand 384min 1512max and still have the animation dot lag but not every time, maybe every 2nd or 3rd time I press the power button. But like I said, it unlocks smooth and everything else is butter so no complaints. Peace.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] moneybanks14:
currently use faux123 kernal but im having constant data drops. could i just flash this kernal directly over the top of it in recovery??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yes. just flash over, no wiping needed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] moneybanks14:
which experimental release do i download there are loads?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Either 92L or 92G are the most recent.

I use the G since it's what Morifc recommends, but whatever you prefer.

G=Google

L=Linaro
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I like conservative with 95-98 up threshold.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yea, seems I spoke too soon. It's like 1 out of 5 for me, which is a lot better then 91 as it was basically every time.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ya completely agree. Having pretty much the same experience, much better. Almost perfect :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] MATRIKS:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Cant wait to have trinity kernel on Note 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] meangreenie:
faux changes a lot of stuff on the rom with some of his releases.. thermald.inf, power modules etc etc

you will have to go through the faux installer you last used and see what gets changed and then change everything back manually.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

BTW guys can anyone point me to the aokp with bionic patches that some are using here ? Is there a thread for Steve's pub version ? I can't see it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Nonsense. What is stock matters. It's what comes on the phone and that user experience should be a good consistent one.

I use stock calendar, clock, Gmail, YouTube, locksceeen, dialer, calculator, keep, chrome, Google launcher on the 7 which isn't stock but Googles

and so on.

Hell the vast majority of the apps I use are either stock Google apps stock what comes on the phone.

Sure being able to change out stuff is one the greatest things about android. But I also don't want to feel like I have to change something because what is stock just blows.

Also my Nexus 7 2013 has almost exclusively ran pure stock. I don't even have custom recovery on the thing.

The 4 hasn't seen a single custom ROM since lollipop. The oneplus seen a nightly build for about 20 mins tops once. Oxygen OS for a few hrs and that's it.

The woman's old broken nexus 4 never seen custom anything. The 5 she has now hasn't either. It's not even rooted.

To me stock matters. The better stock is and the less I have to fuss with crap to get what I want from my device the happier I am.

I'm aware that many if not most on xda are happy just tinkering with everything for sake of it. Not me. I want less friction points that causes me replace apps / kernels / roms in the first place
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
Trinity we miss you!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Stock 5.1 runs so much better on this device then anything I have ever seen on it. Custom kernels is basically a waste of time.

If anything maybe minimal changes like kernel throttling changes and color etc.

IMHO. Kernels overall ( not everyone just in general) have become a Avenue to sell kernel control apps. Filled with 200 tuneables. Snake oil. Xyz. A million different versions of on demand governor with a different config and a new name to go with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
A can't agree more with you. If there was a greater need for a kernel [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] would have put more urgency in waking up the beast. And let's not forget that after w.t years Google made a faux Trinity.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
We're all able to have an opinion, I will humbly disagree as my own research has proven otherwise. Still would be awesome to have this kernel back
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Amin!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Another lovely phone. That alcatel one for 250.

Yet we still suffer from this common thought flagship phones are fairly priced. Or better yet that the nexus 6 isn't overpriced because it's competitors.....

And people repeating crap like the oneplus CEO with its razor thin margins!

Don't mind me. I just can't stand all the shenanigans in the mobile space and the incompetence from the people who cover it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Random short rant coming. I want HTC gone. The sooner they go under the better.

That's all.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] -earth-:
Beer is still good enough, no food needed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Raza Qadri:
Can anyone help me in entering Trinity default color and gamma profiles in synapse in this format
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
generally im one of a very few ppl that can help you. but not in that format, since trinity hasnt been around to use that format.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Raza Qadri:
We can set the colours with terminal too , right? Or does it also accepts the synapse format?

Is this a dead end for glorious trinity colours :(