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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
tf7c http://goo.gl/pKEeEF

quoting [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] "The circuitry other than the cpu and the memory is what got undervolted"

disclaimer.. this is my usage, with my setup, with my use, with my well behaved apps, on my network, with me using lte. but i do think that tf7c improved my normal daily 50% mark, which was great already.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Oh I agree. I should have said "feature".

Seems to me like its a big security risk.

My job is right near UF campus, I'm honestly going to use one of the spare WRT's in the closet and see how many connect just by walking down the street, or eating at the cafe 2 doors down.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Just when 6b was starting to settle nicely :silly: I must admit, I've found with trinity, as with most good things in life, you need a little bit of patience before it really responds the way you want, a full cycle or two for me, but once it does...BOOM.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
The armadillo strikes again. Only got one shot before the blind bastard ran off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] karthi89:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] any possibility of adding gamma control to trinity..? The only which stops me to flash trinity. BTW ur battery screenshots are amazing
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Wait a bit. First the kernel must be stable and bug free. Then the futures will be added. First feature added is UV.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
I said to myself tf5zeta was the last flash before kitkat. But damn, you make it really hard for me! :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Logi_Ca1:
Wait so things other than the CPU can be undervolted?

Well that means... UNDERVOLT ALL THE THINGS!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] karthi89:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] mind sharing ur kernel setup with latest version?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
+1

Please?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] giajp:
the tf7c is not compatible with jwr?

i've the classic flicker on the gnome jwr...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vollmilch:
Trinity has never been compatible with jwr

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Can you ask [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] to change the script animation when flashing the kernel. It is taking longer than the flash.;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deani77:
Latest kernel voltage setting work with latest Trickster apps...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
Guys/girls, did anyone have issues with idle battery drain and are there any kernel or system tweaks that you can suggest? Here's my setup:

Rbj 4.3 ota 9/20

Tf6b

384/1026 running 4/4 min/max

Greenify Google services, maps, search (doesn't always work)

Attached is my gsam screenshot from when I went to bed last night to awaking this morning. Also attached is my background CPU use schedule.

Any thoughts/suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Hi,

Did not have any issue like that.

But now there is a new test version tf7c.

Flash it and see if still happen.

:thumbup:

Edit: grab it here http://goo.gl/pKEeEF
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] NishantM:
Logically it should be ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Yes its good. You can handle undervolting better that all the others. That means, your stock kernel is more undervolted than the slow ones.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

And never an issue w high temps without thermal throttling? I use the same min max setup for daily use

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pac213:
Ohh that's why I undervolted -100mV on all freqs and still it's stable.

Thanks guys! I learned something new again.

EDIT:

I see lowest voltage that can be set is 750mV, can't we set it lower?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no, never. ill play with higher cpu speeds at random times, try to push the device. thats when having thermal throttle off helps. other then that, i never reach it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Dont know if you benefit if you set it lower, too low means it needs more battery than leave it stock.

Morfic have to implement it into the kernel for more UV. But i dont see the benefits of more UV. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pac213:
384 to 810MHz on my phone is all 750mV so I don't know if I should set my min to 810MHz.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

what is the difference between each Rev ? I have Rev 2

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Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Thought there's no such thing as a plain black rear glass? It was a bad picture, it really was a patterned back.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Epic Citadel runs perfectly. So beautiful, I hope they will create a full RPG game (like Skyrim or Oblivion)

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Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

^^ On posting rules: no politics, no religion and, für the lav of goodness NO football..! :p

Agree on everything else.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eyronic:
Wanna share something that might be interesting for someone.

Kernel Tuner *root*. First of all, it's free but this is the first app I saw that can change the governor of each CPU, the min/max freq of each CPU. The on/off button of each CPU is not working. Also the GPU overclock. Everything else is working, I think.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Football as in North American style Football or Football as in Soccer

Because either one I agree, shouldn't be talked about LMAO.

Now we can talk Hockey or MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) anyday of the week if you like :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CerB:
Sv: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

We should definitely talk more of both kind of football :) Go skins and go Man United :cool:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
how to check what revision i have?

my serial nr is starting with 212KKPRW1...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
See quote above from Morfic. Shows you how to check your revision number via Terminal Emulator.

Or you can reboot into Fasboot/Booloader mode and it should show you there as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
alright

have got rev11-fast chip-its my 2nd device now...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you haven't tried Trinity Kernel toolbox have you? while TKT isnt free, there are many free cpu control apps that control everything you listed :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ranguvar:
Just checking out this kernel, usually use franco's.

I spent a good ten minutes searching through morfic's posts and checking the first few pages of the thread -- what's the difference between 91G and 91L?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

G is build with Google Toolchain, L with linaro Toolchain.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
You don't seem to have a network connection. Searching for network drains battery. Use airplane mode.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Any one else having mail push issues with yahoo account and the ICS mail app on LTE/data? Ever since I did the LTE mod I will get this message when on data. Not all the time. Mail will come in most of the time. It tends to happen when there is no new mail. Only happens on Yahoo accounts (I have two). Gmail and "work account" work like a charm.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I'd like to understand the point of doing things like this.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...rking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20/

Why cheat on something and make consumer look like a fool on normal day activities?

I have a friend who bought a S4 and suffer from all kind of issues, from lag to freenzing.

:banghead:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KiD3991:
Its business. I've already been suspecting this for a long time. Every since S2 era. Because I majorly browse on GSMarena. And seems like Samsung is always at the top of the "foodchain".

Thanks for showing the link. I finally took some rocks off my chest.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
OT. Was at the transport museum in Glasgow, Scotland yesterday. Took a good picture of the docks and the river Clyde from an old wooden sailing ship. If your ever in Scotland, I recommend it as a place to visit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Mmmhhh, Scotland, haggis & fried mars bars....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Haha I've never had a Fried Mars bar and I've lived here all my life, haggis is good though, but its hard to catch one :sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
The funniest thing is that "the trick" consists of keeping min frequency at highest freq (2.3GHz). That's what simms22 (and others) use to do while benchmarking, and that irritates albundy2010. :laugh:

I used to think different, but after having a Nexus 4, I don't see the point in checking benchmarks before buying a phone. Ask me what you should buy and I'll answer you the one you like most.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
It's simple. Go back to Al's and I discussion on mobile "reporting". They read the press release for the specs, run a benchmark, and fill the rest with sensational fluff they learned in j-school.

Even the "techie" people who gobble this stuff up will see the benchmarks think higher is better, and then go tell their friends to go buy the newest galaxy. Samsung learned a while ago to impress the influencers to help sell to the masses. You can see from the article they've done this before. Seeing a Samsung device at the top of the antutu list will indirectly influence a lot of people.

We do a similar thing. We show off our 10k quadrant scores, but its never settings we run full time.

Lately I've been showing off scores of settings I run daily. 9.5k in quadrant and 25k in antutu. But I get anal when playing a 3D game at anything less than 45fps, and lately, I've been running a full 60fps. It's not settings I run just for benchmarks, I use them for real world use.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
And here's an example. Been just chatting this morning. No gaming yet, but I've been using my phone normally for almost the entire time I've been on battery. These are the settings I run daily.

I didn't restart, and notice I still have ttorrent running in the background. I also have roundr running at all times. (No real CPU usage, but it does use memory)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Was in Edinburgh for 4 days, had haggis twice a day and found the chippie that sold fried mars bars on the last night..! ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Here in America's South, we deep fry everything. You can't beat the amerifats ;). Fried snickers is my favorite.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
Guys,

as will be in the usa at the end of the year , I think it would be a good opportunity to buy a new phone for my wife (upgrade her Atrix) , which recommend the range of 250 ? (android of course).

If anyone here gonna sell your N4 ...its a good choice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dark Fear:
does last version support gama setting?

it's the only reason i'm not using this kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
No, it doesn't.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Cellphone resellers have popped up everywhere the past few years. As long as you're visiting even a semi metro area, you will find many shops that will be able to sell you an off contract phone.

Just do research on what bands are used locally in your area for the best mobile connection.

Meeting an xda member should be pretty safe. If you use craigslist in the area you are visiting, make sure it's a well lit populated area. A mall during business hours is a good example. Meet in the food court.

Stay away from Sprint, and Verizon (and their MVNO's) phones as they are mostly CDMA only, and unless you're south Korean, will probably not work back home.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Sounds like we aren't as strange for deep frying things as people think! That's a new fun fact to tell people when they comment on our deep frying methods eh eh
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Deep fried corn on the cobb is good as well, I don't know if its still seen as livestock food or not. I know many people from other countries find our eating of corn and pumpkin pie strange as these vegetable are normally fed only to livestock.

Pretty much if you can dip it in batter, you can deep fry it, and it will be delicious. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I think this is a bit different, my point of view of course, because we show off our scores among us, by doing tune ups on our phones.

Also we are not making anyone look like a fool selling a crap device by a premium price.

Google (LG) never stated that N4 is the top contest out there, altough, due to morfic and others effort, we have the best experience on Android. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Craxx:
Hy simms is there a chance to get a jwr version of tf7 for slim rom :D ?

Best regards ;)

Craxx

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Your phone is running well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
same as always.. default trinity settings fsync off read ahead at 1024kb, screen at about 25-30%.

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there isnt any chance, especially with 4.4 around the corner. there is a flashable to help with the screen tearing around.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Thanks. Its PSX, and neo kernel. I'll hopefully be releasing a modded version of neo's kernel tonight with my settings as stock (replace 1.8 with 1.7 for stability for the masses) and I'll add 545 as a GPU speed to finally end the debate of whether 533 is a real speed or not.

Daughter is about to go down for her nap, and then I get to sit on the phone and pay down some medical bills. After that I should have some time to finish up the changes and compile.

**I'm sure no one really minds me talking about a different kernel, but I just want to make sure I mean no disrespect by mentioning it here in this thread. If it is seen as rude, morfic or Simms pm me, and this post will be gone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Drain overnight with wifi on and dodgy signal. Seems normal to me compared to my normal kernel.

As far as note 3 crap. I might have to go on my laptop to write a rant about this nonsense.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
On benchmarking and the people that cover mobile tech.

First of all it isn't just Samsung doing it, but they are the prime offender. As far as I know nobody has exposed a higher frequency to the benchmarks that you couldn't get otherwise.

What these OEM's are doing is flat out benchmark cheating and the mobile review industry as a whole is a disgrace. When this crap was done in the PC space all hell broke loose. There was so much heat put on them it stopped. It was not accepted period. Call it reviewers / tech industry flaming if you wish but it wasn't tolerated and did not get swept under the rug. If you don't know what I am talking about just search quake 3 / quak3. Instead or lame ass tech reviewers will say oh benchmarks don't matter blah blah. Nonsense. Some are actually to stupid to know any better and others do but probably don't want to piss off the OEMS. They probably won't give them samples to review and then don't want to deal with all the behind the scenes nonsense.

What Samsung did with the gs4 and likely the note 3 ( haven't checked / know for sure) is a damn disgrace. Not only do they have a white list of benchmarking apps that trigger all cores hot plugged in @ max frequency they also change the thermal throttle to essentially off. And in the case of the gs4 a higher clocked GPU state that the user otherwise almost never saw. It was also used in the camera.

So what you got there is a device hot plugging all cores at max and a essentially over clocked GPU running full out with no thermal throttle to cheat at benchmarks. And the people that cover this don't say a damn thing. This is on the a15 international gs4 too. Brian Klug actually tried to make his device catch on fire / melt.

Absolutely NONE of this should be tolerated from any OEM. But it is by by the pathetic clowns covering these devices. That's why it is now done on many devices and not just Samsung. They do it because they can, not physically because they can but because the tech press is to sorry to flame them to death for doing it.

All of this has nothing to do with you xda bench markers that do the same. OEM'S should not be doing this nonsense. Just like how can tweak and run your PC for benchmarks you can do so with your phone if you wish. But a shipping factory device made to flat out cheat on benchmarks is freaking absurd.

If I worked for one of these tech sites I'd flame them all non stop until this crap stopped.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION]

Double whammy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
You sleep too much. I'm jealous. :(

And I see I got to your laptop.:p:sly:;):eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Actually I skipped the laptop and wrote that on a nexus 7.

I also put my device down for sleep prior to actually sleeping of course.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spupuz:
Is this only for aosp jss?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Sorry to bring it up to you, but most of us have had close personal encounter with female genetalia.

BTW just had deadlock on JWR ROM.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Kernel stall maybe....deadlocks arent possible with JWR.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
thats good, im proud of you, but i found female genetalia probably before you were born :p

anyways, ive heard that jwr roms dont stop the deadlicks, but that theres a lesser occurrence of them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Maybe ones using a hybrid solution with JSS as a base, but the offending repo is removed using a JWR base so its near impossible.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
OK I am not as technical as you guys but the experience was exactly the same as a deadlock. I was typing and then everything on the screen froze but I still had haptic feedback.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
which rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Psx
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Dirty flashed since JSS ;) :p I blame Simms :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I'm glad to see we've finally moved on. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SpaceCeph:
Is it normal that the cores stay always at 1 GHz?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
By default that's what it does. Dual core @ 1026
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it depends what you mean. if you mean not go ovet 1ghz, then yes, defaults is 1026mhz top speed. you need to adjust it for a higher cpu speed. if you mean that its not using any speed besides for 1ghz, then its not normal, your cpu should be around 384mhz more often than 1026mhz.

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ok, i promised a unique photo, something that you have never seen. how many of you have ever caught a pair of monarchs doing the 'ole in and out :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I have. ;)

Kanapaha Botanical Gardens ( http://www.kanapaha.org ) and at the Rainbow Springs Butterfly Garden. ( http://www.floridastateparks.org/rainbowsprings/ )

Simms do a simple Google image search for Rainbow Springs. It is literally the most beautiful place in Florida.

During the season both of these places are packed with monarchs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Where is your source? I'll tell you if it's 533 or not.

I would probably not mind mods of trinity being discussed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Once we hit 4.4, trinity will be my base. The whole jwr jss thing has made me temporarily leave. I don't plan on releasing it here or really even talking about besides what I just did. The off topic nature of the thread had me type up the entire message until I realized where I was posting it.

My source is people mentioning 545 GPU speed in the nexus 7 razor and s4 forums. Plus testing that there is no difference in 3d performance from 487 to 533. Apparently the true value is 545, not 533. But I need to find a kernel source first with this value, to make sure its not like 545500 or something.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Sounds like a fake / fail gpu clock to me.

If the clockspeed is higher and it's not limited by thermals the performance goes up. If not. Another snake oil sale.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
I really want to know if 545 is a valid frequency, I could use the performance bump
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I remember wondering why our adreno 320 was capped at 400MHz when in other SoCs it was running at higher freqs (450MHz in S600 if I'm not wrong). But yeah, every once in a while we see someone claiming he reached 2GHz as max or 100MHz as minimum and the result is always the same: fake frequencies (whether intentionally or not).

And I think it's hard to notice if there's a real improvement in performance by overclocking gpu. As far as I can tall by my own experience benchmarking and gaming, the vast majority of performance gain comes from CPU overclock like if it was the bottleneck.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Heat is a big reason.... Higher gpu clocks add quite a bit more heat when gaming and such.

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you wont get a performance jump. been there, tried it. what you will get is extra heat and some extra battery loss. there isnt much gain to what we have now, but the heat and extra battery loss is at a minimal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I'm thinking more about a cpu bottleneck: S600 has faster ram so FSB should be higher, cpu bottleneck is reduced so it enables gpu to perform better. I don't know if this is exact with arm SoC, but it used to be that way in desktop computers (this happened to me because my gpu was much better than my cpu).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
Well I think I would especially if the GPU was undervolted too, I got one from 400 to 487
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superbobup:
Don't think any of these mobile CPUs have an FSB like the core2/conroe days of Intel. I'm guessing the s600 is faster mainly from architecture improvements over the s400/krait 200 cores. Anandtech usually has a great breakdown of what the changes are
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
getting the stare down..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] siddharthbball:
where i can download the kernal for 4.3?

does it work fine i want to shift fom franco kernal