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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
And you can also run a benchmark at 1080p of screen test that your screen can't run either. But since that won't inflate scores.....

Again they are tools. For pc cards we used to constantly use tests that were not limited to the display refresh rate. And at various resolutions. And for many reasons of course.

All these tweaks /mods fall under the same umbrella.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yup.

i took that same build.prop edit that n4 users use and tried it on the n5. works!

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lol, truth.

but on the reality side, i will never run my device with any thermal throttle on. never. i hate it. its more about me being in control vs it. but the vsync off, even though it increases fps, it produces intense frame tearing at times. no way would i keep vsync off for normal use. lol, i see tops around 320fps in the corridor test in quadrant :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
You'll have to share your secrets. Would love to reach that pinnacle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
The one thing we all have in common is that we where OCed to 1944 and use dalvik stuff you already have from psx.

The newer trinity kernels won't cut it cause morfic lowered the OC level.

Pure Speed X? ~ ViPER4Android ? [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yes of course

I just find it funny what is classified a cheat these days. Or better yet what's not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Best I could do with 1.7ghz on the current set of TF
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Different kernel but impressive
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
A Lil more. Still at 1.8
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sturdy_99:
i know that thread......why dont morfic put otg support...plzz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Nice, but here's a lil more then that..also at 1.8

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Trim your phone. There is more to be had in your IO. I use lagfix. Now if you can help my CPU score to your level.:eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
Jonup you going to the game today?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
A Happy Thanksgiving to all the Trinity peeps!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Thanks, nice to see that the N5 is the beast it should. But I'm probably waiting for the Nexus 6 RE (Replicant Edition). :p

I'm a bit disconnected due to work, any news on N10 sucessor? I remember a WSJ leak saying that Asus will manufacture them, but after that nothing else has been said. I thought it was actually coming for Christmas. :confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
No, I like going to games that suck. :banghead:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
Gotta love the lions!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
It is a love hate relationship. It all depends on the week.:beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Just basing off the win/loss ratio Detroit is doing much better than my Dallas Cowboys lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
Trust me I know. I live in Chesterfield township. Watch every game
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] okanb3:
Is the TF2-4.4-ANY.zip latest KitKat version? I really feel uncomfortable about finding latest Trinity kernel. Its looks so complex to me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
That is the newest
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
why would you feel uncomfortable?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Random thought of the day.

Man I really wish somebody in the Android space would just make a real high end dual core SoC and do away with these stupid quad cores.

Instead of wasting the Silicon on adding on two more small arm based cores, make the existing cores bigger. Like they should.

Instead we get quad core garbage. Or even worse with those fail of chips Samsung makes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
You mean two cores with higher frequencies and less thermal wasted?

I really like what they have done with Moto X and should be the path, if thats your point.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I think he meant more like that A7 in the iPhone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Moto's the only one really trying things like this on android atm.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
No.

Two cores that are bigger. Ramping up the frequency on smaller cores is what he have now.

Its basically what Apple is doing really.

Moto x is just Krait 2 Krait 300 cores.

What we got is the SoC vendors using as little silicon as possible to make as much money as possible.

While that trend isn't going anywhere. Instead of wasting it on adding extra cores. Use that same silicon / die area to make beefer cores instead. You get more performance and more power efficency.

But you loose the marketing OMG it's a quad core / octa core blah blah blah.

Apple is only one that is doing it. But they can do it because they don't care about turning a profit on the SoC. It's the total package that makes the money for them. Much harder in the Android space since the soc guys have to make a profit on like 20 dollar silicon. They want to use as little silicon as possible. I accept that. But instead of using it for 2 extra cores, use that silicon instead on making the individual cores beefier. Quad core is just stupid.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Ooh I just gotz invited to the Nexus 5 g+ community but...... I still gotta 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
This one already has 4.4 support if u didn't know about . its been working great https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonathan413:
anyway to get fast charge implemented?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yeah I know. I was referring to when it's fully done and properly launched into android / settings itself.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shubu000:
They can always market the huge dual core as 2x ultracore, using HTC terminology
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Blac Caesar:
The latest TKT update FCs for me, right after root is granted by SuperSU. Running RastaKat n TF2

Sent from my PARANOID four.Four Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ishtakh:
Same here with AOSPA 4.0 homemade & TF18b
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
This should be fixed shortly, I'll have to investigate what broke my emulator, because i could have caught that in the emulator.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
TKT v1.9.54 pushed to market, as soon as it's through play market you should grab it, also fixes restoring of voltages.

Androidpit users should see it now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yeah but HTC needed some kind of marketing.

Since at the time the normal pixel size being used was 1.1 They went all the way to 2.0. Just calling it a 4mp camera wasn't logical considering what it's competitors were doing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
It's up on the market.

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You don't think it's gonna be the same thing with good dual-core!? In a market where the next big thing that is here is octa core
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
They called it ultrapixel camera. They just don't have enough revenue to have a big marketing bugdet like Samsung.

Totally different topic. This afternoon my 60 years old aunt just made a video call to my sister using LINE app. Granted she asked help from one of his nephew to update the app but still.

I wouldn't have imagined she'd done something like this a year ago.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
No. HTC doesn't make a SoC.

Qualcomn is also very secretive with their chips. They don't just give die sizes and diagrams and so on..

Don't forget that how many gpu cores was in the adreno 320 was under a embargo until moto outed it as a 4 core with the x.

It would just be called a dual core "whatever" the name of the core used is. Just like on notebook / desktop or even iPhone dual core Haswell / a7 blah blah
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Fair enough. Then it is likely OEM would call it something catchy
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
So all we need is modules, kexec, what else?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
1836 OC back?

At least I know I'd like to see it again.

flying by on Pure Speed X [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Only Samsung would. Since they are the currently the only ones making their own SoC. A OEM can't just take a Qualcomm chip for example and rename / re-brand it. You gets in trouble for that.

Close as you will get is something the like x8 system. Where they say a Qualcomm blah blah plus.... Blah blah.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've tried to find lastest trinity kernel through the last 11 pages without succeed, does anyone have a link?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47843609&postcount=25633
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Thanks.

Wow, now that I decide to come back to flash routines I see that [MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] has decided to stop his project. I hope at least you come by to trinity thread once in a while.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I saw the thread is closed, but I didnt see a reason for it.

Do you know what happened?

Edit: NFL time! [MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I have read just a bit, and it looks like the same thing as always: people complaining without reason, dev getting sick of it and closing the thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I see.

I really dont get people, instead of be thankfull for devs work, they just complain. Saw that a few time since my old HTC Desire days....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Seen it happen a few times since the ICS days. Its getting worse I feel now. Don't post a lot but reading through that thread. Damn! I feel for ctfrommn and the team having to deal with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
And everything was so smooth when jb was around. I blame it on the crispy candy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Ah those were the days...:sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I blame it on that reddit post a month or two ago. /r/nexus4 is nothing but the bad from the psx thread x10.

Apparently somewhere along the way reddit became mahalo, they expect everyone to be their personal Google search.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I blame it on people being stupid idiots
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Fixed it for you.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deani77:
I guess user today have no Nexus spirits... Keep asking for more every time... Even dev doing it for free... I wonder how if they need to pay it... Maybe they should use CM. Being a shareholders...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I admit I look at things more negatively than most but I don't see it as a nexus thing. Or a android thing. Or a mobile tech thing.

I truly see it as to many numbskulls.

That's why I used to love irc. The typical rock head didn't know about it or wasn't bright enough to use it if they did. And the annoying ones that did could be easily death with. A +b a +i or a +m cured a lot of of silliness

If they had to pay it would be worse. I gave you a dollar! I wants now and moarrrr! Easy example of this in action on these forums are the folks that complained about goo. Oh I donated! Arrg this is so slow!! It won't be done for a half hr....

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Edit. It's just the way it is unfortunately. Once you realize that and don't care / let them get to you its all good.

Post funny memes at them instead for example
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I thanked you just for that. Now i 'll read the rest of your rant. I love you man. You add spice to this thread.:beer:

Edit: now that I read the rest I wish I'd thank you 10 more times. People take everything for granted. Including every developer should fulfill their wish.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I still use and love IRC, I also still pay for and use Usenet.

But I've been using both for almost 20 years, so I'm always a little surprised about people's ignorance of both.

You should go chat up the trinity channel. Spice the place up a bit.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Since I can no longer post this in the PSX thread I'd like to go back to the optimized dalvik vs ART topic.

After stating numerous times dalvik works better for me I decided to switch back and forth a ton of times lately to see if the people trolling me for saying it where on to something.

On my phone and my useage patterns it is hard to see any noticeable difference in performance I even ran dalvik thinking I was still on ART for hours before realizing it.

Nothing against ART it runs well and it even fixed one issue I had with an app (flipboard) from freezing . but it is not any real jump in performance as some people seem to be fighting so hard to make it seem like.

Before someone says something like "it'll far surpass dalvik one day" I agree and am not disputing that but today it really makea little difference on an optimized ROM.

flying by on Pure Speed X [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
ART will eventually be the replacement. But they can't just push it out and break so many apps.

I give it a minimum of 2 more releases before its pushed to the prime time and made an option outside of developer options.

Google themselves say not to use ART, its just to get devs ready.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Completely agree, but the last 48 hours or so of the PSX thread got me **** on for saying similar things.

My opinion is still just an opinion and no more relevant then the people arguing about it. I guess with the thread getting locked just left me with a few things I wanted to say on it still, is all.

flying by on Pure Speed X [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I still love irc I just don't use it much. Mainly because I don't hardly ever use my desktop anymore for various reasons. From not needing it. To a hw issue.

Same goes for usenet. Stopped using my desktop so....

Speaking of which over the weekend I fired it for the first time in a long time. And the monitor goes on strike. It will still display it's own menus normally but nothing from a computer. Not the desktop or laptops. Don't have other cables laying around to try blah blah. Just more crap keeping me from using it.

/me slaps so and so around a bit with a large trout.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sturdy_99:
why no new releases from trinity?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Cuz people like u annoy the dev asking for ETA's

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting KitKat for the first time
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Morfic has been working on the app. You should be seeing something new and exciting one of these days. Several releases of the app were pushed to the market last week. Most of the things work on HH for now but they should come down to mako sooner than later.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
Flying on trinity just can't wait for touch control app support

I LOVE MY SLUTTY N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
If I remember correctly from JB days, it was something that the app developer needs to implement and not kernel related necessary.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nadiros:
Morfic needs only to enable module support and then bponury the TC dev can conjure up a module.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've searched across the thread looking for info regarding 487MHz OC in GPU as trinity used to have, and I have found nothing. Did I miss something from 4.3 to 4.4? As far as I remember, it was a valid frequency that gave us a fps boost in games. Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
is the latest kernel not working?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Not working on killing the crack flashers in us.

Otherwise its great.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] swirly05:
How can I edit the "kernel version" text??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
by building a new kernel from source and adding your own "kernel version".
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] swirly05:
Oh ight, Thanks:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Lol try using some common sense sometime you might actually like it. :rolleyes:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] swirly05:
Im pretty high at the moment... :cyclops: my apologies :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Lol fair enough.

Enjoy.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sturdy_99:
it is working great.......but i thought you would come up with more tweaks to make our phone fly....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
try the moto x dalvik :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
I know exactly what you mean it's tf18b and the gpu was actually 533 pretty sick right

I LOVE MY SLUTTY N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
GPU oc's where not working right.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
gpu hasnt been lowered
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sturdy_99:
already tried that...and many other scripts...like blend and pure performance...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blttalas:
is there any 4.4 version?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albertorodast2007:
Flash latest http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47843609
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albertorodast2007:
Sorry for the OT, but since psx thread is closed I can't complaint about my trashy battery life there :sly::sly:

J/K I know there are still a lot of psx users here and a lot of smart developers that could give me a good idea of what this wakelock is about. Its Google now related but I have hotword disabled (OK Google) and location turned off so I don't know what else to do. Psx v2 + latest trinity + PA Gapps + Nova Beta.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
While the GPU values are valid, they don't actually give a performance boost. The boost we were getting were based on our CPU OC.

There was mention that [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] found that something is limiting our gpu, but I don't know if he found a way around it.

I know after extensive testing with both 487.5 and 533, I wasn't able to get any performance gain. I haven't tested it yet, but sometime today, I will try these values on a 4.4 kernel to see if it works with the new GPU drivers. On 4.3, I can say for certain there was no performance boost.

I've been meaning to try faux's method of changing the PLL to run our GPU at 450, to see if changes any performance. Part of the problem of us testing it is morfic and faux replace the 400 with 450/487.5 instead of adding an additional value so the 400 value isn't there for us to compare the performance to.

I have a feeling he hasn't found a way around it which is why it's been removed.

I doubt morfic did this, but when everyone was using 533 GPU, most devs actually kept the same PLL settings for 487.5, so while trickster would report 533, the performance was for 487.5, and then after testing 487.5 against 400, they both gave the same performance.

If you add the values 487.5 and 533, and test with performance CPU/GPU, turn thermald, fsync, and mpd off (using custom hotplug of course) set max/min hotplug to 4/4 cores, and only change the clock values of the GPU, you will get the same results no matter what, and no matter what benchmark.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
What was the last trinity kernel that was running the 487.5mhz GPU freq & would it be possible to flash it on KK with dePRIMA? I'll redo the tests, but from the screenshots I had, fsync, any sort of thermal throttling was off, 4/4 min/max always @ 1512/1512, the 487.5mhz freq was working in NEO. (Possibly 450mhz, but there was improvements in all the tests of GLBench). The 533mhz freq in TF18b (Apparently 400mhz) resulted in less FPS in the same benchmark as well as the 320mhz. (GLBench). The NEO Kernel was paired with Rasta or PSX (4.3) and the other 2 screenshots were TF18b on PSX. Then again, I'm just an average user looking to help :P, not trying to argue or anything haha, just pointing out the screenshots didn't seem to follow what you said about the GPU OC.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Way off topic.

If you're a networking buff or more importantly a wireless network buff. What cheap wireless router do you recommend?

I mean cheap. Like as cheap as possible without being unless garbage. Which of course of is the hard part since usually anything cheap router wise is crap. Breaks in a month. Needs reset every day etc.

My requirements are minimal. Wireless N.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Something with trickster then? I only have the 400Mhz option available, and voltages are stock ones. But I've been working since first week of november so I'm kinda lost here even though it's the only thread I follow currently, that's why I ask. I've read all the PLL thing too, it's familiar to me but I know that's something that morfic wouldn't fail to tweak (I've learned to calculate freqs from him).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Milamber33:
At work we've been finding the latest DLink routers to be surprisingly good and reliable. The exact model we've been deploying is the DLink DSL-2750B, but presumably other current models are based on the same components and firmware.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tvcat-xda:
Asus RT-N12 with 3rd party tomato firmware. Latest revision is D1 but I don't know whether it is supported by tomato firmware. I'm using revision C1, rock solid performance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I became suspicious of the 533 for two reasons, it never worked before (SImms22's N4 crashed reliably at 520 when the 487.5 MHz worked) and i settled on the highest pll i could find (i wasn't trying too hard on the PLLs back then it seems since i came up with a **** ton of possible configurations when i last tried it) and a properly setup PLL of any clock didn't change any result, nor would his N4 crash, it seems that change came with 4.3, since the 487.5 showed a reliable increase in gpu performance then.

So the "no crash 533s" made me take a look and in process found no change over 400 was happening.

That they simply weren't setup right is besides the point, it helped me take a second look and we found what went unnoticed for months.

That's the kind of stuff that happens when you work remotely on a device.

Jonup's awesome offer i didn't feel comfortable taking since it's so easy for our stupid dog to pull a phone off my desk, so it'll be remote work on the N4 still. (Even if remote work on a device i used to own and Simms22 still owns is far different from say a Note3 or G2 )
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Thanks guys for the router ideas. The first one seems to be a dsl + router combo. I have cable and my own modem.

The Asus is more up my ally. I currently have a wrt54gl which I love and is rock solid. The only reason I want to get a different router is because I got a 50mbit line now and that router bottlenecks it of course.

I wish there was basically is current Gen version of those damn things. :(