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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah, one of the other points was our lack of interstellar travel, but as I said, my post was getting a little lengthy. We're looking with telescopes and radio waves. An alien race might have never used radio waves for communication at all.

I don't watch star trek either, but the prime directive is that you cant interfere with a developing alien race (us). Apparently in the show/movies (don't know), the Vulcans (Spock's race) didn't make contact with humans until we were able to reach "warp" speed.

If you've ever seen 2001: A space odyssey, it's like the monolith on Jupiter, meant to be shown to us once we are technologically advanced enough to reach it.

Another one is that fact that these are based on carbon based lifeforms. There could be life forms which aren't even visible to us.

Fermi's thought of proof of them visiting us is based on colonization. That in the millions or billions of years in advance they have over us, they should have checked us out. Whether they are physically traveling themselves or using self replication probes. If intelligent life is from planets like our own his thought is that they would actively seek out other like planets. This is based on the thought that life will naturally try to fill every niche. If life can exist somewhere it will eventually fill it.

But since we only have one source of life (earth) they have to base it on something.

Another interesting reason is the planetarium hypothesis, the thought that beyond a certain distance is a simulated reality. Think of us in some giant fish bowl.

Carl Sagan argued for paleocontact, that we have been contacted before and is the original basis for early myths and religious lore.

Edit: you should at least read the history section of Fermi's paradox, he was a physicist at Los Alamos in the 50's and the whole thing was brought up on their walk to have lunch. It seems others promoted it as his paradox, and not himself. He was just discussing it for the sake of discussion.

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A fun little fact. Fermi was known for being able to make justifiable guesses from little to no data.

During the Trinity Test ;) he was able to guesstimate the blast being 10 kilotons, based solely on the distance traveled of pieces of paper dropped from his hand during the blast. (The current accepted value is around 20kilotons)

Not bad from just watching some paper hit the ground.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
He was right all along..? :eek::what:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dark Fear:
hi

does it support gama settings? downloaded this:

http://www.derkernel.com/FOUR/prev/TF4h-4.3-DONT_WIPE_DALVIK-ANY.zip

but neither franco kernel updaret nor Fauxclock couldn't change gama and set color profile :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
No, Trinity does not have it yet. Maybe when 4.4 is released.

:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Yeah I feel something similar now. I haven't used CM since my htc desire days (I prefer aokp), but what they've done these days is simply unacceptable from a open source point of view.

About wormholes and that things, I just hope one day we can understand black holes mysteries. Every physic law we know "breaks" after events horizon, and become a speculation instead. Damn, we are here because the one in the center of our galaxy.

I hope CERN can create small ones one day big enough to be studied (they disappear after few milliseconds).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
In reality you essentially have two options for a lifeform. Carbon or silicon.

The idea of life in a waveform or some other state that we couldn't see with our eyes just doesn't make sense. At least in our universe with its set of laws.

Suspend the laws of physics and imagine we could go anywhere we want. We find a star or binary star system with planets in what we call the habitual zone about 4 billion light years away. Great let's go check it out. But of course once we magical go there we would now be 4 billion years ahead of what we saw in the first place.

Again there is most likely pockets of life scattered about the universe. But it's also most likely or more probable that no two forms will ever see the other. The size of the universe and time alone are obstacles. Add in a intelligent lifeform to the mix being capable to even realize such a thing. Something would have come and checked us self centered self important humans out that have only been around for 100k years or so and civilized for a fraction of that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Well, we can't assure that, an example. Higgs bosson and Higgs field can't be seen or felt, but it's there, here in our universe, we know that because we see things interacting with it. At that happens also with electromagnetic fields, we can't see or feel them either although we can see its interaction with some objects. Also gravity and inertial forces. So "not feeling or seeing" something can't be used in science to deny something, not even lifeforms.

Well, maybe that's something a bit different as may need extra dimensions or "universes" to be explained or seen, but definitely all those things respect our physic laws. And they affect our world even though we can't see them. Why can't there be a lifeform in the same way as those particles?

This is a video I like to show to anyone that thinks that neccessarily we need to see things in order of them to be there, such as the Higgs or extra dimensions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0

PS: we need to see things in order of them to be there. Is this the correct structure? Gtranslate can't help me there. :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I've found another life form, we should send that as a sample to other civilizations in outer space; Russian female hooligan pre-arranged fight... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2hdXFugPWA#t=144

We're not alone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
What RGB settings does the wwz version have by default? After the reboot yesterday it's 255 255 255, but I'm 100% sure it was different before (and I liked it). Concerning the reboot: Nothing strange since then. Everything stable :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Rant.

http://phandroid.com/2013/09/20/tur...nd-inside-the-iphone-5s-was-built-by-samsung/

Amazing at this day and age people still can't / don't wrap their heads around a fabless chip maker.... OMG its manufactured by SAMSUNG!!!!

OMG everybody but Intel doesn't have manufacturer their chips.

I'm really get tired of this stupidity in mobile coverage. It's the exception now to find anybody that actually knows what they're talking about covering it.

End rant.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
red 235

green 230

blue 255

those are "trinity" colors.

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on topic, the hungry alien mouths are begging to be fed..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Thanks!

Played some Pokemon with Drastic Emulator while charging. After leaving the game homescreen and animations are slooooooooow. Drawer, trickster, ... are still smooth. Wtf?

Thought it would be thermal throttling, but phone should be already cooled down by now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Again [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] was very helpfull! THANKS! :highfive:

https://plus.google.com/117232379152491668866/posts/Z67z4ce2CAi

(btw im "Carlos Abreu" on the post)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you are still using the default 2 cores min/max at 1026mhz? try raising the cpu speed, or enabling all 4 cores. you shouldnt get any throttling with trinity unless your device was REALLY hot. animations i never notice, i have always turned off all the animations on all my devices. i dont care about the prettiness of the animations, without the animations things move much faster.

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oh, now i know who it was that called me up. let me add you to my friends list..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
Yes I'm still on stock settings. But it's nothing with clock frequency or cores as the homescreen was smooth before. I'm 100% sure a reboot will fix this.

EDIT: Even a soft reboot was enough. Still a bug, or whatever.. If not caused by the kernel, then by the drastic app ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Two words. Link. Baiting.

As mobile becomes more mainstream, and becomes the dominate subject of tech coverage, these types of "non stories" will always be around.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
In the photo it says Qualcomm. Am I missing something?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
The A7 is the cpu the qualcomm is something else... Ram.. Some sensor I'm not sure...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
Can someone post trinity color settings that will work on trickster? Tia
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Try this posted by Simms22

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45799162

Edit: remind that on Trinity you can only change RGB.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's not just link baiting. For it to be baiting they would need to know better in the first place. They truly have no idea what they are talking about. They being the majority of the mobile tech press

Qualcomm is a fabless chip maker too.

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And the Qualcomm seen is the modem

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And the Qualcomm seen is the modem

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And the Qualcomm seen is the modem
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Simms, have any idea what those errors mean?

Tks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
So in trinity the only chnages are the rgb? Everything else is stock 4.3?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no.

the kernel is highly modified, trinity tweaking. before any "features" get added, the kernel itself will be perfect. there are modification in it, that you can control, and many that are just part of the kernel, but it is mostly "featureless" is the only way i can describe it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Are you still talking about color stuff, right?

4.3 Trinity doesnt have Gamma and other thing to tunne the display, leaving RGB options only.

Flash it and see, its very good and batt life is great.

:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i have noooo idea. i do know that ive asked many times about errors in logcats, from what i understand, many of the errors are normal. but really, im clueless in this territory.

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Duel Supernovae
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
I was just pertaining to the color becuase i like it. If someone can give me the color profile for trinity so that i can put it in the spreadsheet :) or maybe personal use. Tia
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
As I stated, Trinity does not have gamma and other things implemented on 4.3, so you cannot make a profile and tweak the colors.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
[MENTION=2986645]albundy2010[/MENTION]

From the article you linked.

"In the end this serves as a reminder that no matter how much Apple and Samsung are out for each others blood, in the end… it’s all business."

Sounds like to me they know exactly what's going on.

The rest is sensationalism that's in pretty much all "journalism" aka blogs today. Sensationalism designed to lure in readers and make more in ad revenue. Or..

Link baiting.

What used to be the fast paced 24 hour news cycle of television has become the 24 minute news cycle of the internet. You have to fill the front page with a new news story constantly. If you had one or two stories a day you would lose out to (insert tech blog here) who publishes every 30 seconds whether its a story or not. Apple, Samsung? This is juicy, run it! These sites are nothing more than tabloids.

With the internet, pay for content hasn't done too well since the info is almost always out there for free. The only way to make more revenue is to get more viewers by writing sensationalistic stories. People gobble that stuff up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ah so mine is vintage :)

In all seriousness, are there known issues with one build over the other? Mines been perfect since day 1 no issues so far (knock on wood)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kakito:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Rev. 10 for me

Thanks!

Nexus 4 via Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
chances are that they are nearly identical. but, since the revisions are different, theres probably be some minimal hardware differences.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
Hey guys. Wanted to say thanks again for the awesome work :P Not sure if you guys heard what Franco is doing, but his latest comment on r63 looks very interesting.

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
good for him?

you can enable as many cores cores as you want here too :p

via terminal..

su(press enter)

echo 4 > /sys/module/auto_hotplug/parameters/min_onlin_cpus(press enter)

4 meaning 4 cores. you can also us 1, 2, 3. this will be the minimum cores online.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
I know that this doesn't really belong in the dev thread (well... come to think of it, neither does my earlier post), but how do you think he was able to get the phone to switch to 4 cores on boot, and then 2 cores from the screen off?

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
he built his kernel with the right code work. why would you want two cores with the screen off anyways? i think id rather have one core with the screen off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
no hotplugging and it boots with four cores

screen of and screen on call 2 functions, in the one for screen on, you tell it what to do with the cores

if i disable hotplugging i can get you switches in TKT to run 1, 2, 3 or 4 cores.

with hotplugging on this would quickly get overridden.

figured he would release a dual core test version soon since that's what we talked about. When he mentioned that he can see no extra drain in his hotplug less test kernel i mentioned how it would be interesting to see if 2 online, 2 offline changes it further, as for daily use, 2 would be enough, for gaming you could then use 4.

screen off 1 core, but on screen on instead of onlining the other 3, online just one more.

not sure he does the screen off 1, i haven't looked, but that's what i would like to see.

don't have the time to try this right now

I'll see if Franco finds anything conclusive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I'm tempted to say that he still offlines all but core0 on screen off :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Cores are off in screen off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i figured. but i went by what was written, 2 cores with screen off. anyways, i dont really see a battery difference when im using all 4 cores on as opposed to the normal hotplugging.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

The purpose of what Franco is testing is simple.

He is toying with the idea of disabling hot plugging all together. Last test kernel was r61 that had all 4 cores online. The latest one has two cores permanently disabled after boot and screen off. Also no hot plugging at all so the 2 cores are always online. This applies to screen on use.

So he can get a sense of just how much of effect the cores being always online effects the battery life with no hot plugging.

If you just disable / set maximum amount of cores as Simms pointed out you still have hot plugging.

Franco is seeing if hot plugging is more expensive then just keeping the cores online. With hot plugging you got all the polling / moving threads etc. His current test is just basically a quad core with no hot plugging vs a dual core with no hot plugging to see the difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yeah I don't notice any battery difference between 4 cores always enabled vs hotplugging all the time. Let's see with 2 cores online vs 4 now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Exactly, word by word.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
that's part of my normal setup, all four cores go online, and thermal throttle gets turned off :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
when i said disabling hotplugging i more meant a kill switch in the driver, so no timer fires and cores are manually controlled.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Simms gets all the best stuff :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] opethrocks:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Hey simms, how can i mount /sys in terminal as rw?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You run daily with tt off and all 4 cores online? What max?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
mount -o remount rw /sys
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
just the rbg are changed, gamma is default :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I disagree. They simply don't know. They don't know who uses what fabs for who. They don't know who is on what nodes and what is and isn't ready for mass production.

They really just dont understand that entire space. This is why they were left clueless and dumbfounded by Apple's 64 bit chip. Durr what does that mean?

All that stuff is way above their heads. Most of them are what I call box readers. They read the specs off the box or a press release etc.

The masses who cover this industry simply don't have a clue about the components and supply process that goes into these devices.

I don't see it as link baiting. I see it as ignorance that gets played off as link baiting.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you guys are both right, as there isnt a definitive right or wrong between both of you. its more gray then black or white. what im saying is that its worse then both of you said. the industry(ies) is full of link baiting, thats how they try and get you. thats their job first and foremost. and whats makes its much worse is their ignorance. god are they ignorant(not all, but i can say with confidence the far majority). that nexus 4 has an overheating issue still bugs the f**k(self edited :angel:) out of me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Look at it this way. For any news on a new process / SoC / modem etc. A new reference design from nvidia or Qualcomm, Intel etc, where are you going to read / look for more info on it? Engadget, the verge, Android central and so on. No you're not going to those places for that type of technical info.

What you will get there is a repeat of the press release and maybe a quadrant and antutu score if you're lucky.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13dupaojliustwgh04cevk40kubd1kr3ik

Cyanogenmod Inc. Or, how to profit by screwing open source. Ffs..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
That's an easy one: for a detailed review about design, materials and such things I'll go for Androidpolice; if I want to see an extensive and non biased technical review, then Anandtech; and If I want to see iSheeps raging about design aspects but then they love the iPhone 5c or the ugly back of an iPhone, The Verge.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lucas4ever:
delete pls
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Anyone here use Solid Explorer? I'm trying to copy an init.d script from my storage to the init.d but keep getting this error.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tyea:
Given you have root access, try copy then paste, not copy to, or move.

LG-E960
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Yeah, that's what I'm doing (copy/paste).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Try on storage/emulated/0, worked for me on Root Explorer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
either /sdcard/ or /storage/sdcard0/ work for me with root explorer
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Yup, that's what I've been doing.

Must be an issue with the app, because it works just fine with Root Explorer. Oh well, fission mailed. I just wanted to try out Solid because it had a few more bells and whistles than Root. Thanks guys.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
So i enter in university and bought a new laptop...

i7 4700HQ with 8gb of ram can i finally build stuff(kernels abd roms) with no problems?

If so, i got learn how!

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
For sure....thats plenty powerful.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Wooow!!!

Finally!

Came from a pentium D dual core at 3.2 ghz to this beast!

I cant stop playing far cry 3 now hahah

Btw for all that are looking for a good laptop check asus N5 series, i got the one with the i7 4700hq and nvidia geforce 750m (4gb of dedicated ram). Its lag free even at full settings and in power saving mode

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Hey guys, any of you ever used xposed framework?

Is it pretty stable and safe?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yes

and

Yes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Well it's totally official now. Oppo n1 along with CyanogenMod
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Yuk and Yuk.....I hope this isnt a trend.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...od-edition-will-launch-with-cm-pre-installed/

Let's see how long this will last then.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Seems he's just working with them. It's not coming with cm on it. Idk , I don't like how big it is nor that camera
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
It said Oppo 1 CM edition....I think its coming pre-installed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eainyow:
Its optional :) It comes pre-installed with Oppo's color ui :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] californicated:
The Oppo N1 cam is so f*cking ugly :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
morfic and i were talking about this happening to cm over 2 years ago, about the same time i gave up on cm. i WAS their biggest fanboy :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
It's exactly how I feel now, don't think I was a fanboy though :p Been digesting it all, and just the fact that I am says all I need to know. Wrote a post about it too, to help me reach my own conclusion. But it's caused quite the ruckus, that's for sure.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
There will always be growing pains especially goth FOSS project going incorporated.

It's business and not everyone will be happy.

There's options so no one has to use cm