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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Rt is gone. It's now just surface. New models are surface 2 and the Intel / non arm solutions are surface pro.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Not the best photo, but every day I walk up this hill and can't believe it's just 5 minutes' walk from the Cape Town city centre.

Edit: snaps from my walk home today.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Thanks!;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
wow, the N5 hasn't come out yet. :( I have to rely on my N4 for at least another month... just like I planned it all along. :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
You're an ass.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Thx!

Edit: they say, you are what you eat. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Lol no problem.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I'm not sure if I seen anyone in this thread from France, but anyway, does anyone know any french forum like xda? I'm learning french and such thing would be really helpful in that matter, as xda forum has helped me regarding english.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
had a relaxing off day today :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elderap:
You make great pictures with the Nexus 4. What APP camera? Any special adjustments?

Enviado de meu Nexus 4 usando o Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Let me guess. Stock app, -/+1 exposure, hdr
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Late reply, but considering the current gen of devices around s800 and those around future chips like the exynos 6 A53/A57 big.LITTLE

with modern gpus, I don't think that $20 is a bad price if it really makes the hardware shine if it avoids those ****ty in game coin purchases.

Why pretend a game is $0.99 when you then sell coin packs, and I even fault EA for that.

Give me a game I get to immerse myself in/with without purchases of "coins", I'll pay $20 easy for it, leery me test a lite version for free so I know what awaits me, then my $20 are yours.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
app, stock camera app, then crop as needed. adjustments, constantly. it depends on the light mostly, or the mood that i want to set. but i never leave it at default, im always playing with the settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Cameras can only handle average scenes and give you average results, you have to work to expose the scene correctly (correctly always means to your taste)

A lot of times the "correct" image emerges in post processing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Totally agree. The biggest problem is that major companies support the idea of IAP (in app purchases) even outside of the mobile space. Look at Valve, their top two games (DOTA 2, and TF2) are funded entirely by IAP. The freemium model is everywhere, but Valve at least favors their committed players. It's never pay to win. You can always get all items by playing long enough. They feel the dedicated players will bring others to the game, so they reward them by making it equal.

I liked how SquareEnix did FF Dimensions on iOS. An episodic adventure is a great idea for an RPG. Of course when it finally came to android it was sold as one package.

The quality of games are getting here though. Like I said before, it was always seen as android users are cheap, and will never spend more than 0.99 on something, and Apple users will buy, but will never spend more than 2-6.99. Within the next gen or two of hardware, you are right, the quality will really be coming, more than just Gameloft doing knock offs.

People have now had their platforms for years. They are becoming more trusting to drop larger amounts of $$$ on apps like would on desktop OS's.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Sorry guys, but I look at picture taking a lot less sophisticatedly as a way of conveying information and not as an art. As long as you can make out who is in the picture and what is in the background I am set.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
So you're saying that if I take pictures of Detroit, there's really no way to enhance anything? (or no reason to)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Did you click through all of them? The first two are Detroit pride (both taken indoors). The one that is displaying is from Cannes. The rest are Nice and Monaco.

Edit and now I deleted my original post. Wtf!:banghead::banghead:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
I feel scammed, this doesn't look like Detroit. Looks like Santorini
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
This is a repost of the original:

Nothing to edit here:

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Or here

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And I can just go here

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
You leave downtown Detroit and get..... (photo not enhanced!)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
OK you got me. You win.

Are you saying that there is ~4000sq. mi or grater MSA that doesn't have an old vacant factory in there!?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Detroit is a dump period.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
detroit is great when going gambling in windsor canada ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Συμεών's number, undercover. Another sixty for the grande.. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
This doesn't count. Another 54 to go. Or is it 53!? :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Was just giving you a hard time about Detroit Jonup. Knew you were living there. Saw 60 minutes on Detroit. 80,000 abandoned buildings and homes including libraries, theaters, opera houses, hospitals, etc. Entire abandoned neighborhoods. Over 20,000 abandoned pets. Some still chained up to the abandoned homes.

Downtown looked nice thanks to the quicken loans guy who bought entire skyscrapers for pennies on the dollar!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Smh
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've tried lastest trinity kernel and I had many reboots and hot reboots with PA rom. :( Damn I miss trinity kernel, until it rebooted performance while gaming was insane. Btw I couldn't get a last_kmsg log, it just didn't created the .txt file. Is the module in charge of logs disabled or something?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no one reboots with trinity, i mean no reboots are reported, besides for this. usually if its a kernel issue, youll see many reports of an issue. chances are that its either the rom, a theme, an app(yes, ive had reboots because of an app before), or some other type of mod.

if it reboots on its own, it will produce a last_kmsg. it can be found in /proc/last_kmsg/. was it a hard or soft reboot?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Man, do a clean flash on PA RC2, dont use those nigthlies.

I've on it about 2 weeks now and never had a single reboot.

Simple as a, b, c...

Rom, gapps, boot....reboot and flash trinity. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Yeah I know, I use to generate a log with terminal but It didn't work for me. Something looks corrupted in my rom so I might do a clean install, probably stock rom so I can get test 4.4 properly.

I know, I'm on RC2 and nightlies time has passed with me, days when I flashed something every 2-3 days are gone. I just wanted to share how unlucky I feel because I can't use trinity nor jss builds, no matter what, I always get errors, freezes, reboots. I hope something changes with branches in 4.4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
that sucks :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
4.3 is really sad, this 2 base stuff f.ucked up everyone. I use Trinity since my Gnex and it was always nice... Until 4.3 :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Codrea:
yeah right google mess up this time. I am on catalysm rom (jwrv66) so I can't use this kernel. using jwr to jss will make a deadlock. I think dev should only develop one of them.

but It's okay android kitkat is coming. after kitkat release on nexus 5, when will it come to nexus 4? :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bclark:
Side note, I have 4 invites for Aviate if anyone wants one. Thanks to [MENTION=4607139]DontPushButtons[/MENTION]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
http://m.androidcentral.com/aviate-isnt-spying-its-just-being-sloppy

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13itburhtevi3oja04ccxsypuevhtcwgao

P. S. Used it for about half an hour. Too much blingi-bling + slower than nova. Too many swipe actions to get to things..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bclark:
Well that's incredibly disappointing, It's quite smooth. Codes are still for grabs bc my phone is upstairs but I'll be uninstalling shortly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Of course you can use Trinity on Cataclysm, just remember to "disable hw overlay" under dev options.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
As much as I don't like the different branches thing with the code I don't want to hear this blame Google crap.

Nobody is forcing all these custom roms and kernels to use use that branch on this device.

It's similar to blaming CAF for cm using the code.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
But al its the latest and greatest!!

Just kidding i agree, and no ones forcing the end user to run the stuff either.

from my PSX ~ NEO [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
I installed the app but didn't enter a code because I didn't have any yet. Suddenly, aviate crashes while I'm using the browser. I uninstalled it.

This explains everything. Thanks for the heads up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anazhd:
yeah you guys should ask op/admins/mods to rename this thread to Aviate Kernel right? ;p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Tread lightly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
How I pictured Morfic saying that:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Echelonex:
Can someone pls post screenshot of trinity stock colours (white,black,mids and greys pls)? Or just write them, thx. :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Codrea:
Thx and what is the effect of disable hw overlay? Will it decrease battery life or performance?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Less performance

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I was more leaning towards Don Morfic..

Call me old school if you might..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
I don't usually post screen shots, but this wallpaper is a simms special. Probably rock this for a few.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Dern xda
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
I've just discovered the KitKat page updated, with it's excellent double meaning teasing : :good:

http://www.kitkat.com/#/home

and...it has arrived....what ? where ? when ? come on google ...

:cyclops::p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
" There is no school like the oldschool and I'm the f*cking headmaster! " :D

( - Rock n Rolla )
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Dude, I just get wound up when people of minimum knowledge/experience start talking crap about Detroit. There are people that live and work just out side the City limits that would talk crap about Detroit all day long but they haven't been there for years. In my line of work I go and work in some of the worst neighborhoods and in downtown. So I have a first hand experience. Is it a perfect place? No. Is it worse than the majority of the MSA? Yes, but it is not all grey. Are we going through bankruptcy? Yes. But so what!? The reason we are going through it is, as Kevyn Orr said it and later retracted from it, that we were too rich and too stupid for too long. But let me tell you, since I am in industry that deals with municipality financials, we are going through bankruptcy because we wake up first. Wait for all the other cities that are going to go through the same thing sooner or later as OPEB and pension costs continue to skyrocket.

As for abandoned buildings being 80,000, it might be an underestimate. On the other hand, I have been listening about the street cats and dogs for a while now. I was back home (Bulgaria) this summer when my brother forwarded me the article in US Today/NY Time (one of them) that there were 50,000 homeless dogs in Detroit. Then I heard the results of a study on Michigan Public Radio that quoted that number as well. Now couple months later 60 Minutes is bringing it down to 20,000. Let me tell you, I drive 15,000 mile each year for the past 6-7 years in Detroit and I have not seen or notice homeless dogs. Have you been to Eastern Europe? These countries have homeless pet problem. Not saying there aren't it just not a problem. Maybe the dog shelters are overcrowded but that is not as to say there 50,000/20,000 out on the streets.

All I am saying is that News outlets like sensational reporting and they portray Detroit as a lot worse place than it actually is.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I feel bad for the Canadians that live in close proximity to that dump
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
For what it is worth, I hit 9.5K in Quadrant at 1.7GHz and 25K in Antatu with jwr rom on Trinity. Performance hit must be marginal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
I never said it would be big... And benchamrks dont mean a thing compared to when u try to play real racing and the image is iffy

At the end the best is to use jwr kernels on jwr roms and jss for jss...

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Something new about the nexus 5 ;)

http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/17/nexus-5-press-images-with-telus-branding/

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Check this conspiracy.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46568502

;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Nice it's coming closer ;)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
That's one hell of a conspiracy theory...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Well I only play drag racing and hungry shark and both are just fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Not really thrilled about the SMS switching totally over to hangouts, unless they redesign the looks of it. I've been rocking the dark themed version ever since back before the war and rather would not use hangouts for texting
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
ive read that the sms/mms will be included in the hangouts app, but in the same article i also read that you will get a choice to which app you want to be the default sms/mms app.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Yeah my bad just went back and read that. When I didn't see the messaging icon and just hangouts on the leak pictures, I guess I assumed that they removed it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
oh, the messaging icon, they probably did remove that. i read that you can set whatever messaging apps from the play store and such as the default messaging app.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
It looks that way, and I assume that Hangouts will be the official sms app. It's from far the feature that intrigues me most. Because if it's going to be the default sms app, I wonder how they deal with some carriers, in my country sms aren't free and few carriers offer an unlimited package.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
My guess is that it will be just like the chrome / aosp browser situation in Stock roms.

Out of the box you get hangouts ( chrome) with no messaging app ( aosp browser) but both are in aosp code...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Its OK. We have those here too.

This is back in July, she was next to me at the gas station.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
That's a possibility. But then what, are they going to release a phone (Nexus 5) without sms app from the box? And same goes to updated devices, as they are going to loose messaging app after the OTA. I can't see it honestly, there's many people that does not even know about playstore or apps, believe it or not.

Actually, I will laugh my ass off when I see the all the new threads asking about the messaging app (at least in Spanish forums). :laugh:

EDIT: it's here!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...y-visible-in-the-play-store-ahead-of-release/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Yep!

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/17/4850738/nexus-5-google-play-store-price

Edit: what do you think of the price? If $350 is confirmed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
The sms app would be hangouts. They will do the same thing they did with the aosp browser. Remove it with it the ota

Notice it doesn't come included in a stock GN rom. Same for other apps that got changed. Like music. Think the keyboard as well
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I believe it's pretty safe to say $350 is going to be right for the 16 gig
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
And US$ 400 should be ok for a 32GB model. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yea that seems like it'll be the case
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
Love this kernel it may not have as many features as some others but it's seems to be the most stable and best for performance but one thing I would like to see would be a lower minimum frequency I think 192 mhz would be great for battery saving. Cheers again for the great kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
192mhz would be horrible for battery. The phone would spend all the time at max freq anytime you do anything (granted you use Ondemand) because that freq is not sufficient to run anything, unless you unlock your phone an just stare at the screen. When you do not use your phone, this kernel deep sleeps better than any other out there, which has nothing to do with your min freq.

I recommend 500-600 min clocks at the very least to achieve good battery live when you do more than just staring at your screen and not touching it. Simms uses 1026 for min and he gets better battery life than most of us. :sly:

While we are on the N5 euphoria, I doubt SD800 will be sufficient to run at 192.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
It would not :p PSK, as I'm sure you know, uses 192 and mpdecision, and it has the best battery life any kernel has ever had for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Well I just switched back to Trinity last night because of battery life. PSK drains the battery way too much because it scales the CPU to 1ghz every time you touch the screen. I type this message at 594mhz.

If you touch the screen a lot when you use your phone I.e. texting/posting, mpdecision is horrible on the battery. If you read long articles the you have a winner.

With Trinity my phone spends 0.75-0.90% of the time at my min freq. With PSX it spends 50%+ at 1026mhz and no more .25 at 192mhz. If you running Trinity at 384mhz min your battery will be worse than running something slightly faster.

To each its own.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've read some time ago on thracemerin thread that even when you set correctly the values for 192 MHz, phone still runs at 384MHz. He confirmed that with motley's kernel (and his version motley+), that even at 270MHz he didn't knew how the phone was actually running at 384MHz.

If I get a job, I'm buying it, although I hope I can get 250€ for my Nexus 4 (16GB and official bumper).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
The thread was m_plus kernel for 4.2.2. Back then several people tested and the results were more or less the same with everyone who did the test; there's almost no difference at all in CPU performance between 192Mhz and 304Mhz. thracemerin also said that show-p1984 managed to run his device at 27Mhz (don't know where he got this info). So the conclusion was although CPU spy or any other apps showed that your phone was using frequencies below 384Mhz, it wasn't actually being used.

You're very lucky if you can sell your Nexus 4 at that price. In here, I can only get around USD 200-210 if I sell my Nexus 4. That's the best I can get considering you can still get the new one at $330. It's gonna be lower than that when the Nexus 5 is announced.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Here is to back my claim. This is 6+h sot territory.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
And xda app sucks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
And it sucked some more. It only posted one pic when I attached 3.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vengisss:
Is the latest 4.3 kernel the one on derkernel.com?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
yessir.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Totally agree with Jonup, but I do believe that the phone can get the 192 with screen off or deep sleep
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Balls. It sucks balls hard. Kind of regret buying it.

As you said, to each his own. Trinity is way friendlier to the battery than PSK, but it makes sense to use 192 for it. :)

By the way, did you ever experience a very weird vibration issues with Trinity before? It seems that at random times the vibration either cuts out entirely or only very faintly... the only other kernel I've experienced that with is PSK in v8, which I'm guessing was a shared commit with Trinity. He rewrote it entirely now though.

What do you think? And the other guys?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Deep sleep is totally different animal. It doesn't matter what your freqs are; it deep sleeps all the same. The only time only time 192 make sense is screen on but not doing anything and screen off but not deep sleep yet. As such it is great for interactive governor, but not for ondemand.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Well well, PSK uses ondemand by default, might make sense to mention this to ct
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I know but it's different, I'm not talking about faking frequencies to programs like cpuspy by tweaking cpu tables, but writing this tables correctly (with multipliers and dividers well calculated) and the phone running anyway at 384MHz. That's why thracemerin decided to drop 304MHz step from motley+ kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Chad is well aware of it. Part of the reason he is thinking of dropping more freqs from the kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
Well that was what I was trying to say...although it shows that the phone was using 192Mhz or any other frequencies lower than 384Mhz, there's no difference in CPU performance, which it should have.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
This is sorcery!

It's almost Simms territory. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
close. i usually hit 1 hour at about 85%, and 2 hours sot at 70%.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
If we were all like you, your mission would have been complete. You would be useless. Now we have a goal to reach. And you keep moving the goal post on us.

Also I probably hit 2h in longer time so more idle drain in my case.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
If you can get at least a half hour every 10% you're in line to get past 5 SOT but that's usually gonna happen on consistent WiFi, for me anyways

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Sorry for being persistent, but nobody ever replied to that question, no matter how many times I asked it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no, the vibration stays contant here.

---------- Post added at 05:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:40 PM ----------

beasts..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Finally moved back to beloved trinity and got.the best stats I've gotten in a long time
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
imagine that :p