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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

First day on 108 (I skipped everything since 101) and the battery has been so so. Definitely not as good as 101. As you can see from the screenshots the idles haven't been perfect, but the phone was connected to my beast's Bluetooth some of the time. I'm at only 2.5h of screen time with 30% battery left on auto brightness. I was logged into Skype for an extended period during the day as well. Morfic, I know hotpluging was not working on 101 but can't you make something similar to that kernel with a working HPing.

I am also having problem with my display settings sticking. I have the latest busy box manually installed (before I hear it) but the display setting won't always work without me going back into tkt and touching one of the rgb values. As soon as I touch one of the adjustors it would go into my preset settings. Prior to that the screen is too yellowish. I also notice the color transition from yellowish to preset when I wake up the screen. Any advice is extremely welcome.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I may of had a bad download but that Rom wouldn't go past the boot animation for me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaperzero:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ohh kernel high score soap opera. Dericious
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Congrats. These are really good scores.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] polobreaka:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Who cares? Do you physically feel a difference? Is your phone crawling to a halt?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

+1

It's nice to see your phone get good benchmark scores but seriously, they don't really matter.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] polobreaka:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ya but a mere 48 points difference and makes him say 4.2.2 is THAT bad.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You guys are in the wrong thread.... We love or benchmarks here :D

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Hahaha I know right. This guy is trolling for sure.. I thought they were the same scores at first.

48 points could mean anything, thermal, running apps, alignment of the stars lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I think you misunderstood him. I believe he was saying that he gat both scores with the same kernel. He put both screenshots to show he is getting consistent results. Of course I could be wrong
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] polobreaka:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

So you are saying your phone is not working fine? Boot looping? Lagging? FCing?

Mine is working exceptionally fine. I have no complaints with 4.2.2 because I don't let a couple of numbers to determine my ROM/kernel is bad. It performs the way I want it to.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i get the same score with the 4.2.2 kernels as i do with the 4.2.1 kernels, no difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Its Simms on the n4 thread sweet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Wrong, trinity runs much more efficiently even at stock speeds. There is much more to this then just "MOAR CLOCKZ" the simple fact that mpdecision is stripped alone makes it "better" than stock.

I know English isn't your first language but please stop arguing points with your pseudo science.. seriously it hurts my brain reading your posts. Kthnxbye

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] polobreaka:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Maybe but in the beginning of post he said 4.2.1 is better and then at the end "by by 4.2.2"
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

?! Were you hiding under a rock?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I love Simms (nohomo). Back in the day he's the one who took the time with a total noob (me) and went step by step with to root my G1. Now I'm a crack flasher!

You da man Simms

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Lol ikr, Simms is always around here
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Man, I feel your pain but be nice. You guys have been picking on Jesus's English all day long. Don't make him feel unwelcome. There is a lot to learn from this thread. If you do not care about his comments don't read them. Just remember that by depriving someone from their right to speak, you are depriving yourself from the right to hear.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

*sigh*

I guess you're right.

Edit: Am I the only one who thought he was saying 4.2.1 was faster??

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Stop making excuses for this guy. Its not his English that is terrible it is what he is actually saying that is terrible. The English just makes it worse.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You guess! I put my money Areopogitica, On Liberty, and Introduction to the Edge of Reason would back me up. :joking Just recommended readings for when you are not to busy playing with TF on N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yes, I did. I actually also posted a link to that ROM earlier lol. The settings are really unorganized though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
stability and benchmark scores dont really have anything to do with each other. and yes, its very possible that an overclocked kernel scores lower than a stock kernel. there are too many variables that can cause this. heck, you can get the same kernel, at the same speed, to score completely differently after a simple reboot, or from going from a warm room to a cold porch.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

His statement is ambiguous to say the least.

Hey Jesus, can you try proofreading your post before posting? I know you can do better. I feel bad when people are mean to you but they have a point. A side from that everything is an opinion. And everyone is entitled to theirs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Nonsense again. Saying stuff like all 4.2.2 kernels are not stable is not a opinion. Its rubbish that is just wrong.

You are not helping him but not correcting him.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Edit: jonup is a saint compared to me lol I'm a curmudgeon.

Jonup:

Me:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

^^ I checked with Chuck.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaper000:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

sigh* And so it begins here as well...

This is a rerun of Franco's GNex thread. Allgsmnetwork says something that makes little sense, people try to interpret what he means, others try to defend him, and we are left with an international muddle. At least Osm0sis was around in that thread to unofficially moderate. Sometimes the translation came out truly awful. Let me give you a taste of what I mean:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36162922&postcount=37015

Exactly I reason so 'always help the less experienced and do not take them for a ride like that screenshot of the monkey and to thank all went over the edge and I made the report to the moderator otherwise only those users with the brain half continued. I hope you understand me...

- Allgsmnetwork

Now I give the guy credit -- he keeps trying, keeps posting. But drama does tend to follow him and I don't think it's his intention. But it does happen. So let's see what happens on a Trinity thread...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

^^ Won't happen here, don't worry. The thread's self - control mode kicks in and everything is fine.

If not, the Dr comes to the rescue. You don't wanna be pi*sing him off.. Have you seen the Dr angry..? :eek::eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Nothing is beginning here, I don't know what the dude that got his post deleted in francos thread said. Nor do I care actually.

I / we are not attacking the dude. All I have seen is try and proof read and make it more readable if possible. And that he is wrong about something.

Are we not supposed to address the 4.2.2 stability nonsense. The stock vs oc etc? Its just wrong and a terrible observation. That keeps getting repeated by the dude.

We want to help people especially in this thread. But that doesn't he gets to ignore facts and nobody acknowledges it.

I am not getting frustrated with him. More of that's your opinion and its a English issue when its not stuff. Its 4.2.2 kernels are not stable. The balances between CPU/GPU and so on. It makes no sense period. And it needs to be treated as so. Not opinion. Not English issues. Its the content that is the issue with latest post.

I had enough of this discussion to be honest.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Oh god. I gave this guy a thanks by accident :eek:

Really, I didn't mean to.

But what was the point in writing that? You want an infraction/ban?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wend0:
Someone knows the display value of the stock kernel? I just want the stock display setting but i didn't find it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Hey Simms,

Have you tried using the same kernel to benchmark on a 4.2.1 ROM and a 4.2.2 ROM to see if you get different results?

Trinity TF97 on RasBean 4.2.1 was the ideal mix of performance and battery life for me. The thing would sleep like a baby and was very smooth and fast.

Doesn't matter which 4.2.2 ROM I use (even the stock Factory Image) the idle drain just seems to be higher when using Trinity. I don't know if there was a lot of under the hood changes in 4.2.2 that perhaps is accounting for this, I also know that the kernels I have been testing are test kernels.

Either way, I was just curious if you tried the same kernel on 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 ROMs and compared to find a difference? Thanks for all your help.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Tried it too, the settings are all over the place, don't like the weird Nav buttons and the pie is really buggy. Too many options and i got confused lol Liked the keyboard and messaging app and a few other things.....so flashed the new rasbean and used them on that :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simarilon:
Just click on the left side on the name and than "ignore" :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Andy:
I have to apologise for the length of time that post was up for. Sadly we mods have lives too.

Thanks to all that reported it, keep an eye out and hopefully we can rid XDA of muppets like that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wathefak:
why can't i see his post anymore? :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Cuz a mod came. Derp lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Andy:
This.

He and his posts are no longer with us. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

If you want the stock TF settings just clear cache in tkt and reinstall kernel. For stock nexus go to general. There is a sticky with link to Google docs that has completely stock values.

Didn't mean to thank you. So it and run with it ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roscopcoletrain:
will that work with the latest Rasbean? Or do we need to stick with TF97 being on 4.2.1 still?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It should work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roscopcoletrain:
Should or will? :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm gonna go with should :p not 100% sure lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It will unless user error. Update radio and bootloader for 4.2.2 ROM
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
a good monitoring app if someone is interested in.....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5XYXphQmUuYW5kcm9pZC5CYXR0ZXJ5RHJhaW4iXQ..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roscopcoletrain:
ahh, so you need to update those as well eh?

so if you're not looking to update those yet, best to stick with TF97 then eh?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Lmao

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Dumb question alert!!!

I went back to jelly bro and now I cannot select reboot to recovery/bootloader when I select reboot in the power menu. I can still go to fastboot mode by holding volume dn and I can reboot to recovery from ROM Manager. Any clue?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Remoteconcern:
I've got some preferred settings Morfic for interactive.

Go high speed load 65

Above high speed delay 60,000

Min sample time 40,000

Timer rate 30,000

And input boost 1.2Ghz for a decent performance battery mix.

Does anyone have any input?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] doope:
I use ondemand and it is the best... Morfic did a hell of a job there on 47 almost reajing the saint graal.... And yeah ****ing xiaomi mi2 is a beast!

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
Don't talk about the saint graal...any info you take to the outside and I must kill you! ;)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2

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Only change between 43 and 47 is gpu oc?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] grisha1:
All on wifi, right?

How about 3G drain, hsic wakelock?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Thats good. I dont personally think this phone needs a major gpu OC. Not until game devs get better at working w the HW we have.

Jumped to 47b, will let you know if the reboot issue continues. If so, a log will follow :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
I noticed force non boot CPUs is online by default.

Leave it?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Yep.

Not sure about 3g drain, not looking for it. Don't have bbs either. Using phone instead..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CMNein:
Morfic, why you no support my device? :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] grisha1:
What a smart answer :thumbup:

I can tell you, I was using my phone (stock) without any analyzing until I was facing terrible drain on 3G and stalling data...

You know, on wifi only you get very good battery life with stock or most other kernels. And smoothest is still everything based on mpdecision, since 43 trinity got closer. Motley is the other that is close. Both still carrying the 3G drain, hsic wakelock.

Harsh has it all atm. But I'm sure trinity will be there soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
Morfic, tf43 might be the best product on the street. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with noobs like me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
any idea how to get rid of the notification bar temp info from the toolkit?

i readded the widget without bg as told, but its still there lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
disable notifications for tkt
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
Ahhh got it. Thx for that dr...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Does the s4 pro get the same results with CPU/memory on the other devices it is in as well? Or is it just that one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
47b is.. amazing. My phone is COLD. Never ran so cool.. stock settings except read ahead value is bumped up.

Lightning fast and great battery life!

Still looking forward to some crazy UC UV kernels he he.. TUV style ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
I vote for a TUV as well!!!

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
36k from s4 pro.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Wasn't referring to what it does in the 4 though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] meangreenie:
Running 47b, everything seems fine apart from my touch messenger, which loses connection after 5 minutes sleep, but it's the same with any kernel that has the latest wake lock fixes.

Also could'nt seem to find gpu downclock frequencies, even 400mhz. Next step down from 487 seems to be 200, which seemes to make my phone slighty warm.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] consolidate42:
This doesn't have UV control, correct?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Wrong thread?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

No need to update bootloader and radio, latest rasbeanjelly is still 4.2.1.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I think Simms was running 4.2.2 with the old ones with NP. But unless you are going back and forth between 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 ROMs I would update them. Morfic kerenels will work with either
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
yeah.i just use the new bootloader on 4.2.2 but the old radio .33

all my friends said that with the new modem my voice quality was not as good as with the old one

too quiet and ticked off they said lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davwman:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Although this is the wrong thread, just hit reboot, once it starts rebooting hold down and you'll be in bootloader screen. Hit the volume up or down key until it says recovery mode and select it via power key
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I know man! :D But I'm running TF kernel. ;)

In all honesty, I was hoping it was something trivial with a simple answer just ignore it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roscopcoletrain:
right, but the latest TF108 has 4.2.2 in the title. Hence why i was wondering if it would work with latest rasbean.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You have to enable extended boot options in Developer Options.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Just try it mate, worse case scenario it doesn't boot and you revert to the back you will have made.

I can however pretty much guarantee you it'll boot & run just fine. ;)

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When in emergency: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot

Great little app, always on my homescreen. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kmso:
vibration become very low after installing TF108:confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Do you have trinity kernel toolbox? Turn amplitude to 100 & width to 20, try that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm running the same.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kmso:
tried but still think the softkey vibration weaker than before:confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Play around with the sliders a bit, maybe you need some different values. And, if it's a bit weaker, you'll be fine. It's just a soft key vibration.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] opethrocks:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

An intersting article on i/o read ahead values http://lwn.net/Articles/372384/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yes. This also was my problem.

Simms didn't understand.

Every Trinity up 107 has weak softkey / keyboard vibration. No matter which settings I input into the kernel toolbox.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
if you would use swiftkey you can raise the haptic feedback while typing..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaper000:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Besides what the others here suggested, there are some ROMs that have a vibration multiplier setting. Liquidsmooth has it and I think Carbon has as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] io53:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

This was so far back that it deserves a bump. (TF108)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rogoshin:
I also have this, but i love it :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im using tf108 on the latest rasbean 4.2.1, with the older radio and bootloader.. and i love it :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Noobish question,

I am currently running the newest radio and bootloader since I am on 4.2.2.

I want to try out the newest release of rasbean so I can flash back to the 0.33 radio without issue. But can I keep the new bootloader as is, or will I have to flash back to the older bootloader as well?

Also, have you tried any of the newer Trinity kernels (100-108) on 4.2.2 based ROMs are is all your testing on 4.2.1?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
at this point, my n4 is waiting for rasbean 4.2.2, so ive only tested on a 4.2.1 rom. i wouldnt worry about downgrading the bootloader, it shouldnt make any difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] FaithCry:
yes you can flash the radio with no issue, i do it all the time, keeping the updated bootloader. so you are good to go! :good::laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Awesome thanks, been away from RasBean since 4.2.2 dropped, so I am starting to miss it :good:

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Fantastic, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Quick question: I bought the TKT app. There's a setting called "force non boot cpu" it's off by default but what does it do exactly?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

At the moment it does nothing. This future is not implemented yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] galaxys:
I'm in the same boat... Smooth sailing!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

By the way, Tapatalk app let's you watch video that has been posted while you scroll through the thread! It's awesomeness.

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Nice feature! Didn't know this :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roscopcoletrain:
Running the same now :)

thanks again!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davwman:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Tf97 provided great results over four days of use. Now to see if tf98 does the same or better

Nvm: tf97 loves my phone. I noticed instant micro stuttering with tf98. Its not placebo either. Not a big deal, I can deal with six hours sot and hard use.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I had a reboot using the app. Once setting the colors and gamma and such and turning screen off like it said to do to apply the changes the phone locks up then reboots.

I recreated it doing the same thing over and over. Then all of a sudden stopped and was working fine. So it's random
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its not random. the data for gamma didnt work with the kernel(you went from older to newer or vice versa), which caused the reboot, which caused the bootloop(s). after 2 or three of these bootup/reboot loops, tkt threw out the data(safety feature) and all works well after :)