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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
I agree. I've heard of stories of how much of a nightmare the AMD drivers are. Glad you're set up.

Well if you like the ground up approach I'd recommend Arch ;) I've talked about it on this thread already so I don't wanna piss others off by preaching it. As far as a easy setup, I'd say Ubuntu 13.04 is solid. I've been running it since it was in the alpha stage and its been wondrous. Its also the best choice for any Sandy+ chips. Performance is better so is the stability.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
lol. Oh man... There is this joke.. And I die laughing every time it comes true, and you just did it..

Ok ok .. The joke is

Q: "How do you know someone is running Arch Linux?"

A: "Don't worry, they'll tell you"

:laugh:

It's funny.. I know Arch well but it's just a bit too involved for me.. I know its community is great and its repos are awesome.. I may go Ubuntu because I do want an Android build environment and as far as ease of setting one up Ubuntu is the quickest and easiest. I had a build environment on Debian testing but I remember it was a PITA to get it finally together after a lot of Google-Fu and coffee. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
A lot of freaky things had happened to my phone yesterday. First off, no more artifacts!:thumbup: Then, I was feeling good and wanted to test how fast Carbon is w/o 98tweaks. Restarted the phone. When the phone booted up I went to unlock the screen and bam! Reboot. Anyway, I still wanted to bench it. I've been planning to test performance governor for a while. 1836/1836 + marble floor and slight breeze perfect for Antutu. Side note, Antutu had not been stable with Carbon before so I was feeling optimistic. At 1% phone dies. No big deal, I've had a million rlod by now. I go to long press the power button as I have advised you many times before and to my surprise 2 seconds in I feel haptic feedback. I let power button off, no rlod, then Google logo and the phone booted. After dozens of rlod, first time the phone booted up w/o plugging the power after Antutu killed the phone off.

After the boot battery was slightly drained but the loss was only 5-6% down to 14%. Then I put the phone on the charger for at least an hour. I unplugged the phone and it was only at 28%! That's after more than 1 hour of charging! Anyways, I had to go somewhere so I just put the phone in my pocket and drove off. 20-30min later I reached in my pocket and the phone was hot as hell/me/your girlfriend/boyfriend/(put whatever you find to be hot). I shook it a bit. Then I thought to do a screenshot after it cool off a bit. (It doesn't let me upload) but the battery was in the mid40s and the soc was in the hi50s.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
I've heard it xD lol yeah, not running Arch though :( been using Ubuntu 13.04 and winblows8 (office).

Yeah... Ubuntu is as simple as running a script. If you Google "andadb 2.1" it'll come up on rootz. Run that sucker and you'll have your environment set up in no time. Its simply... Too easy :beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Not directly related to the entire Linux AMD graphics drivers but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqTU4wVvZL0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Ever since k8 AMD = Fail for the most part. I did build some am3 systems with those 100 bucks x4 and x3 chips a couple of years ago. Was a good budget system.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Oh nice.. Thanks for the tip about the script.. I always just followed one of the many (up to date) tutorials around XDA for it. But a script.. That's even better! Ubuntu it is.. :highfive: I'll get on that tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
did you realize that you had your phone at 1836mhz for nearly 2 hours? lol.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
NP! Its very easy honestly. Even does the java **** for you(the script).

Also if you choose 13.04 mtp will be a cinch, it works out of the box finally! XD (sorry for the repeat guys but you have no idea how much of a PITA it was to get that **** working before and even then it wasn't very reliable)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
In have a couple of these and I have give a few away. Recently picked up 965 for $70. Just can't beat it for the price.

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Yeah, but it should have deep sleep

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Unless performance governor prevents deepsleep
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
btw, i just ran a few antutu 1836/1836. on the last one, my phone rebooted and booted up at 1%. thats the 4th time this week that its booted up at 1% after a reboot during antutu. and it charges super fast after.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Wait.. The script purges out awful OpenJDK and plops Oracle in its place for you? AND MOTHER OF GOD! NATIVE MTP?

SOLD! SOLD! SOLD!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Maybe we cracked the rlod spell :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Power off the device. Every time this happens to me I do that and the battery is back to normal. Don't reboot though, if you do it'll stay at that same battery level. Odd I know.:banghead:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
there is still 8% unaccounted for
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Doesn't purge OpenJDK but puts Oracle higher priority or whatever that is. Been running with both installed and no problem whatsoever so I don't have an issue with that. (As you can imagine, if I'm lazy enough to use the script, I'm lazy enough to not uninstall) but yeah that's how I felt the first time:cool: lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
na, battery is just normalizing. it was 60% before it rebooted, its just moving to where its supposed to be. if you leave your phone unplugged, but asleep, itll slowly rise in the battery stats, like its magically charging itself.

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this phone has never had rlod :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
:eek:Knock on wood! :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I drove for 20+min. That's more than 8%. I think the phone didn't deep sleep with the performance governor.

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FU Simms! Do you have to bring it up every time!?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
possibly.

i wonder if theres a cpu speed that the phone has to hit before going into deep sleep. the nexus s had that, it had to hit a certain cpu frequency/step before going into deep sleep.

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:eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Nah, it's all vangelis's fault
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
obviously
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
I actually disagree. I personally have 2 amd phenom x4 3.4ghz, and although an Intel i7 can def beat it out, amd is pretty decent depending on your usage. This is in win7 though, no comments on Linux usage. AMD does sucks at drivers, its the ati showing through lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yeah they are good budget systems.. And I had no problems building machines based off of them for most people. I would have used one myself if I didn't pick up the micrcenter q9550 deal that I used with my same board and ram....

I built one phenom system basically right when I think it was the x3 710 came out. And similar systems for friends who wanted a new machine.

The video mocking them was for the bulldozer launch. When they brought back the FX badge with subpar performance. Was a joke.

Anything after a phenom 2 I don't even consider anymore. And the phenom 1 was pure garbage in my opinion. Slower clock for clock than k8 and clocked lower.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Ich spreche Deutsch...

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nicht!

I know it should be kein Deutsch. But this worked better.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
So far battery is good. Thanks Simms!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Vangelis, I still don't get the meme. Something no tits is stupid but I don't get it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Without tits everything is stupid. What don't you get..?! :eek:

(Not stupid meant aggressively though, doof is more what kids would say. Saddened, let down kind of stupid)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
You looking for trouble? 'Doof' is a great word.

'Blöde' is what I'd call silly - quite literally.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deeren:
Jonup,

Is this one of the artifacts you have been getting? On navigation bar?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Could be. This could be just problem with transparency. But generally problem with rendering like yours.

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What ROM are you on? Do you have the 98tweaks file?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deeren:
yeah .having it on stock too. kind of weird.

this one is quite often encountered.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
I had those Nav bar glitches on my old n4 I RMA and the new one doesn't have it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Again its only your navbar. I'm not saying it is not the same issue, but that it might be related to transparency of the navbar. I used to get it with most animations I.e. loading xda app, pictures, background, etc. Yours are only affecting your navbar so it could be different. Also do you have the 98tweaks or any other file in that folder?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I defaulted it to encourage testing it (ok, so i don't forget to switch to it after booting the kernel at my old age), but the subjective results suggest keeping it default for now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm so loving it. Undervolting has helped keeping my phone from getting super hot.

Morfic, I've asked you before, but now that I can quantify it is it at all possible to get higher clocks than 1836. I am rock solid at 1150mv so at 1250mv I might be able to push it further. Besides, it is 8F outside:rolleyes:

This is completely out of curiosity and I am not asking for implementation. I know you have other priorities and I am glad to be able to use your kernel and your app as they are.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
So I assume the colder it is outside the better for performance scores because it will keep the phone cool? If that is the case my phone should be flying, it's -40 right now where I live. :laugh: Any recommended min/max/governor settings for benchmarking purposes?

Also I am going to give the newest release a shot tonight when I get home. I always have the most fluid and smooth experiences with Trinity opposed to other kernels. Thanks again Morfic.

On another note, this was my 2000 post and it's my Bday today. Coincidence, most definitely :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Happy b-day and congrats! I believe the benefit of cooling your phone to -40 are heavily outweighted by the cost of freezing your arse. :laugh:

Set min and max at your highest stable frequency set governor ondemand, set read ahead to max. let your phone cool down to -40 and start your bench of choice. Of course you would need one of these extra fast roms.

Or stay in, relax, open a drink of your choice put on you favorite easy tune, and enjoy the melody.

p.s. at -40 you should be able to run 1836 with a little more voltage if necessary.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
congrats and happy birthday!

i like to use ondemand/deadline
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Happy birthday to youhuuuuu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Happy birthday!! I'm loving 81 :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
guy, id keep it on the down low, the happy birthday police might be watching. they tried to nab me last week, but i got away :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] syncopy:
Try TF84 now! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] P00t:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Is 1728 the safest? Can u go up to max for both min and max ondemand governor or will my device blow up??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Mine is rock solid @ max but YMMV. Try one step at a time and do not set it at boot until you sure it is stable. If $hit hits the fan read through the thread to recover from red light of dead
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CerB:
they are everywhere..................................and looking for every evil person how dares to say happy b to some one on a forum.......

damn them !!!

:eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no, it wont blow up. it might freeze and reboot, or you might get one of those scary red lights at worst. i just wouldnt use it at that high cpu speed as a daily. you battery wont like you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

What is the best ROM to pair Trinity with? I'm preferably looking for something as close to stock as possible but with navbar mods chucked in as I want it at 36dpi and blue buttons otherwise it just looks far to big and bright. Thanks.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] P00t:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I noticed the back of my phone was getting hotter and hotter so I made my min back to 384 and max to 1728. Not sure if its because I was using my mobile plan that was making my phone hot or it was the performance setting. I'll test more frequencies when im at home using WiFi.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It's all on opinion. I like rasbean with a stock look. I'm using my own test build of rasbean.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Simms will hit me, but try LiquidSmooth.

Very small lightweight ROM with Linaro optimizations and very fast. And you can change DPI and add blue buttons as you requested.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Paranoid
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
i would like a close to stock look rasbean, too much black and blue for my taste with the original rasbean
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
I wouldn't mind testing your test build of RasBean seeing as it is my fave.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deeren:
nope. just flashed stock and still getting it. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
If you are getting these problems after flashing stock ROM & Kernel I'm starting to think that these are harwdare issues caused by the GPU.

If this is your case, the only way is RMA :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
It's almost positively not the GPU if he is only getting the problem with his navbar. If the artifacts are all over the place then it could be GPU. I thought that it was my GPU since I was getting artifacts in 3 or 4 different ROMs. But as we found out it was a file in my init.d folder.

Wait for Simms to wake up. He'll be in a better situation to troubleshoot your problem.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Anyone use Chrome for Android? This crap started a few versions ago and I stopped using it. But... Checking back and it is still here.

Is this some stupid feature Google came up with and I missed the message? See how the font size randomly changes? It doesn't discriminate either. Can happen on near any webpage it seems.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've dreamed I had the google glasses and they worked flawlessly with any app, and they were controled with my mind althought I used voice commands just to freak out my friends. :D

Damn google I/O I can't wait to watch the keynote.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Ugh now I can't un-see that haha :p and yup it happens everywhere

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Those look like a lot fun but I really am excited for 4.3 and possibly a nexus 7 announcement. I missed out on the first one and from reading rumors this new one looks like a good bump from last years model.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Yeah I want to know how it's going to be next Nexus 7, but I admit I would be a bit disappointed if it really uses a Snapdragon S4 Pro chip instead of the snapdragon 600 or even 800.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Yeah that's really the only rumor I wasn't excited about. Wonder if they can use a 600 or 800 and still keep the same price point? I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed for it! Haha :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It will not have the 800. The chip is not ready.

600 just doesn't make sense at all for this product either.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
Ok. Quick opinion needed. Which is faster, the latest CFX nightly, or Rassaber?

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nikzDHD:
Not tired CFX but RasSaber is blazing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Al-rightly.. Ubuntu 13.04 up and churning away.. Android build environment setup.. Not bad compared to 12.10.. Seems more like a stable release of 12.10 and not so much an actual new version. Still see zero of this fat trimming they keep preaching about.. It's still bloated out the butt..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Their (googles) msm branch shows them working furiously on msm8974 (iirc)... Not that it means anything :) just stating the facts.

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Got that right. My main gripe with Ubuntu. Then there's also unity… :banghead:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
I actually don't mind Unity at all. It's a well done interface and does what it was supposed to do. It was different but it grew on me.. I'm pretty open-minded with the various desktop environments out there for Linux.. I liked Mate a lot.. Cinnamon was headed in a good direction last time I tried it. Openbox and Fluxbox are awesome also and remind me of my old script kiddie days running Litestep on Windows. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Its a bit heavy for my taste. (Reason I stopped using Gnome3) lack of proper internet has kept me from installing something minimal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deeren:
The reason I don't like unity is because of all its online ads and contents they force on the user. Also I feel that unity and gnome 3 completely removes the desktop experience with all the big ugly icons...reminds me of windows 8. Gnome3 can be arranged with the extensions but still...

I didn't like KDE before but I am forced to use it cause of the mess out there with the de's. Although it is bloated , the qt4 apps are well integrated and behaves well as a whole. I might give xfce4 and openbox a shot these days though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Keep in mind that is the time when google or any oem would do doing many commits on work on the 800. As it in sampling.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I've ran Linux Ubuntu with AMD with no issues.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] original21:
You could also try the AXIOM rom. Really fast and stable!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Yeah I know lol a lot of those commits actually start off with "HACK" ROFL
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
An AMD video card? Do a dist upgrade or wait around for a xorg update and enjoy booting to a purple screen.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's not the cpu that creates issues for users it's the graphic drivers for some folks. And when it goes foul it's flagrant.

Historically amd cpus have always ran very well on Linux actually More so then windows really. They would always fare much better in benchmarks on Linux vs Intel compared to how it did on windows.

Years ago people were taking about crippled compilers / wintel and so on. Can't remember all the details to be honest. Some truth and some fanboy nonsense.

Those amd fanboys were worse than your apple fanboys.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Yet NVIDIA is still getting the bird from Linus ROFL
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
Omg. Great vocab. That is a wonderful word that I will now use at every opportunity.

Couldn't help it, but that is a great word :D

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yes that's it. Have nvidia graphics card.

Edit: I'm lying. It's a gigabyte card. GeForce GT-610
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IcOpRo:
I just build a new system.

AMD FX 8350 with 16gb RAM

Two SSD drives one for WIN the other for Ubuntu

With an EVGA 660ti SC

Its a pretty darn fast system... I did boot in Ubuntu, and updated everything, and when I tried to select drivers for the Vid Card, that was it, it never booted again :P

Just wanted to share...

Oh and I put that together to play maybe some games, and Ubuntu to learn how to build Android from source :D ... Which I haven't event started to create my build environment (I think that's what its called)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaper000:
Second that, I was bouncing back and forth between liquid and carbon, till AXIOM... likes it, I do. You may too

http://androidhosting.org/Devs/DroidTh3ory/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
What's the appeal? Can't find a review or info... And links on the threads I looked at are broken...

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
There are people in here still n o t on RasSaber..? :what:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
I like the simplicity and the awesome highlights of Rassaber, but strangley, I find CFX more appealing and option filled. I usually run Rassaber with Franco, and CFX with Trinity. One for simplicity, and one for speed :P

Connor Baker

Also, I want 2.2ghz OC!!! I CAN HANDLE IT MAN!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I always remember that line because it was used a in rap song in the 90s.

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That's a nvidia card. In the dedicated graphic card market nvidia doesn't actually sell a card directly. They release a reference platform to their partners and they sell the cards. So it will be gigabyte / Asus / msi / evga and so on but they are just called nvidia cards because they run their gpu. Least that's the way it used to be. Haven't been following computer gpu hardware but I don't think there are actual nvidia branded cards.

The oems can change many things. From pcb design, cooling systems to what type of ram and clock speeds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] original21:
Try this link.

http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/1734-★-a-x-i-0-m-★-aosp-★-mako-★-toro-★-maguro-may-12-2013-★/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yup. I am one. I put it on my 7 though and my screen cracked the same day. I did enjoy the 1 hr of use though before it got busted.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
We all know who'll get the blame for that I suppose..

(Sux though. Rip 7.. :()
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Give me Rassaber with real PIE and Im all over it too :D