yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I'm using 2.6

When I was having issues in recovery I 're-installed 2.6 over itself and my issues went away. I was on the verge of fast booting the factory image to cure my issues but after installing TWRP I had no more issues. Idk if that's what fixed it but it is fine now

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I believe I seen my answer somewhere in the last few days in this thread but because I can't seem to find the discussion I'll ask now: anyone using trinity for 4.3 with cyanogenmod 10.2 with great results?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Shouldn't have any issues with that combo. Both are jss. No need to fuss with overlays and drivers crap etc.

If the cm build is good then you should be fine
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
That's what I figured but wanted to ask to make sure. Thanks bro
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Again key word is should. I'm not running it so I can't confirm it first hand. But I expect it to be fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zakkyzombie:
Latest 4.3 kernel? Couldn't find it on the site :s

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Never mind. I'm dumb.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] my thanks meter. Currently your lucky number :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i ruined it.. :p

but you got another thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Now it is not :( lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Lol I gotcha. Don't worry, I won't try to launch a lawsuit on you if I boot loop LOL.

It's all good, running it now and no issues
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
You survived, hell yeah!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shubu000:
I tried that once, didn't work though. I just used cwm and that was fine. Going to flash 2.6 again through goo. Hopefully it's ok.

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Btw, anyone know if the fixes in the latest update, kernel related? Want to flash trinity, but not sure if the problems I had before would surface again
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] syncopy:
I have this problem too. The fix currently is to *disable* compression. I've tried multiple times with compression enabled and the backup always fails with an error.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I'm starting to love asphalt, multiplayer mode is awesome, finally there's a real multiplayer mode in android.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
so, anyone running a rom with the new binaries, and have you had a "keyboard" freeze yet?

also, this is out of curiosity, i had to use hspa+ last night for several hours, tmobile was servicing its lte in the area, and i realized that those several hours my battery life was noticeably less with hspa+ than with lte. my question is, those using lte, and those not using lte, how is your battery life? to me to me there was about a 20% difference, which to me is a big difference.

oh, and another flower to start the day..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Corintio:
I'm on the latest rasbean and I've just had one when replying. It could be Fleksy's fault, though, as this keyboard sometimes acts strange, and this freeze was a bit different from the others (cursor was blinking, although the system was completely unresponsive).

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
ive been on rasbeans update from this morning too, no freezes yet. but for me its too early to tell, its a very light issue here. i get them 2-3 times every 2-3 days, so it didnt happen often. regardless, im hoping it fixes the issue :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Corintio:
Yeah, me too, they're very rare but very annoying nevertheless. I hope they're gone for good.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Today's vacation spirit.. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Nice, what a spectacular sea!

Captain Vangelis boarding :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I got one on the latest psx but definitely not as often as the pre jss15q

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What's up with the naked dude? Can we see some ladies? :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
uohhh....photo 3...its awesome !!!!!!!

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I am not on Ltd but you will usually get better battery life on a current lte device.

The radios and network (usually) are faster to pull in the data and switch to a lower power idle state

So for Web browsing you will almost always get better battery on lte. Audio streaming or something that is constantly pulling in data you won't

But even for a large download like your asphalt game lte will draw more power but finish first ( not always true but yeah you get the point) and get back into idle faster so it can use less power overall. Say 10mins for hspa and 6 or 7 for lte...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well, since im a heavy browser user, that makes sense. thinfs do get finished much quicker, data wise, via lte. so i can see it saving battery there. and little by little, the savings add up. id say i get about 1-1½ hours more sot on lte than on hspa(+).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
If you check any of anands / klugs reviews it shows up. WiFi web battery. LTE web battery. And 3g / 2g test

At one point klug gave a detailed breakdown on how the radios work...their state switching etc. To give in great detail why the LTE will get better battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
link?

thats interesting.

maybe its because of the lte technology that was available(as apposed to newer devices), but ive heard nothing but complaints of battery life on verizons/sprints lte(especially on the galaxy nexus).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] resynx:
Vangelis you're making me jealous with all these photos...next time take me with you :eek: :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I'll find it for you later.

But on the subject of the galaxy nexus. That sucked because of the radio. More importantly the radios. Like you said. There was not a single radio solution like what he have now. Same for all the other older early LTE phones on the market. That combined with them being a bigger process and not a all in one solution... Which is actually why apple waited so damn long to put lte into their iphones.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture/4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I'm back on cyanogenmod 10.2 , the latest nightly, and I've already gotten the keyboard freeze once
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I tried the new Carbon nightly today and the "freezes" are NOT solved so I decided to flash a 4.2.2 ROM for now and wait until the problem is solved.

Let's hope Google fix it soon ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I was on paranoid and they somehow fixed the issue. I was running it for about 5 days with not a single freeze
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
They reverted all their repos back to 4.3_r1 (JWR)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Ah ok. Yea that'll do it. I wonder if the newest tag fixes that freezing at all
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Seems to help, but hard to tell....Ive never had one using stock kernel but I know many have. Seems the reports have gone way down and I do ask.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i just had a keyboard freeze a few minutes ago, with the new binaries.. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 7TimesCursed:
I was pleasantly surprised by the boost as well.. My phone now goes easily through the day without going on life support. Faster data speeds, better battery life, and slightly better signal. LTE is a win-win for this sexy phone!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RCDuke:
I've yet to get on 4.3 on the Nexus 4, but I have the new Nexus 7 so I have to ask.... Will Trinity work on Slimbean 4.3 for N7?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no.

do not try.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Bzzztttt (fried device sound..)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RCDuke:
That is why I asked first. Thanks for letting me know.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Never (and this is one of those real "nevers"..) flash a kernel on to a device it wasn't meant for.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Little rant. So apparently gsmarena thinks apple doesn't put HW first. They actually compared what moto did with the x as to what apple does with the iPhone.

It boggles my mind that any professional review / review team could possible say something so dumb.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
PSX v4.1 and trinity, been using for 5 hours now and no deadlocks at all. Neither keyboard nor anywhere else.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
Hey guys.

I have a question. While using trickster mod for configuring latest trinity kernel I noticed that in hotplug settings max_online_CPUs is set to 2. I wonder why? Why not use the other two Cores, too? I guess they won't be activated under heavy load or am I wrong there?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Well... common sense ain't common you know

A cynic is one who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Its running essentially as a dual core and it will stay that unless you change it

It's that why on the latest test kernel because that is what morfic / Simms wanted to test.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
So here I am in the same restaurant using its Wi-Fi network where a month ago I couldn't connect to it no matter what. There's no way 4.2.2 is better than 4.3.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Nobody (that matters) said that it was. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
tf4h is set at 2 cores max and 2 cores min. its just an experiment that we are trying. many are reporting no performance loss with only 2 cores, and many are reporting better battery life on two cores, i know im getting better battery life now. and you can always change it if you want 3 or 4 cores. im not promising battery life like this, it depends on your use and setup, but you should see improved battery..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
"The mysteries of the Force" :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bclark:
I wish I could get that amazing signal you get further out on Long Island. I can't get anywhere near your time all due to signal strength.

Either way dual core has provided much better life with little to no performance hit
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
whenever i go out to see my cousins in oceanside long island, my battery always suffers.. they have the worst tmobile signal out there!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Just went to an att store nearby and played with the moto x. I'm pretty impressed by it. If it only had 1080p screen and slightly bigger battery.

Sent from my Saber-Tooth mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheOneChristo:
I believe signal makes the biggest difference from a battery point of view, regardless of the number of cores on. In Montreal, my signal is brutal at work, I get 2 hours SOT. The second I come to Toronto for business, where reception is great, it adds an hour of SOT. Just flashed the 4G radio and I'm on pace for 4 hours.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
signal does make a huge difference.. thats why i asked yesterday about peoples battery life with lte or with hspa(+).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
Which one uses more battery? 3G or 4G?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Teadious:
Woops, anyways, it depends on signal strength, if its really bad it'll drain more battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
for me, lte is doing much better on battery than hspa(+). but yea, it would depend on the quality of your data/phone signal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm on the latest pcx v4.1 and I haven't got a freeze yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Get what you're saying but signal being equal less cores will result in better battery.

Frankly it's flat out stupid the current implementation of these SoCs / OEMS. Let's take as many cores as possible and run them at as high a speed as possible with high voltage....dumbest thing you could possibly do for a mobile perspective

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Its not the black or white.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yea, well, you are right in both statements. but i dont think these SoCs / OEMs are considering our interest first and foremost. many act like a lot of these xda devs that focus on buzzwords rather than whats really important. but, i guess they are covering their interests.. their interest being making money. id guess they would make money on an actual great product, but it looks like they want to stay with the formula thats made them money in the past.

and yea, battery life in general is not black and white, its a lot of different tones of gray.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Almost sounds like you do have a good thing to say about the Moto X after all.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Basically.

The SoC venders customers are the OEM's. Sadly then the OEM still caters to the carriers too. So the user of the actual devices isn't really the customer at this level of hardware.

Sadly I can't see anybody showing these guys the proper way to do it but Intel. But they also have a bunch of issues. They waited to long to take mobile serious and are playing catch up. They will catch up though. And they simply won't stand for the profit margins that the other SoC makers get. Selling a device for 600 bucks and Intel getting 20 bucks out of it just ain't going to fly

I said it before and I'll say it again. These soc venders screwed up so damn bad that apple had to invest and become a SoC maker.

If the engineers at Qualcomm or ARM etc had it their way......I see this is how the future Intel mobile platforms will be. Aka done right. Meanwhile Samsung shipped a broken soc on its flagship.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Likewise here. Look at this baby sleep along with me. TGI Saturday!

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Wow, this actually happened!?

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I am consistently getting fewer bars ever since using lte, but I have not seen a performance hit. Read somewhere the bars shows the lte signal and the actual 3/2g signal could be excellent.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
You mean the S4 i9500 (Exynos) right? I hope they stop to focus on cores. After that they will stop to focus on huge batteries and then maybe we may have a efficient device in terms of battery life, or at least on par with iOS devices.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
"Likewise here. Look at this baby sleep along with me. TGI Saturday!"

Damn pictures don't attach with the new xda app sometime!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
that actually happened, twice! both with tf4h. and nearly every day now, im between 3.5-4 hours screen on time at 50% battery left. but, of course its my use only. remember that i use my browser the most, instead of installing the xda app or other social website apps.

im not 100% sure, so dont quote me, but i think the bars are actually showing the gsm(phone) signal strength, not lte/3g. because ive been at no bars before with fast download speeds, and at 4 bars with slower download speeds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Hey now wait a minute, my nexus 4 gets way better battery life than an iPhone o.o

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Nice try!;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
A co-worker left android and went iPhone and she's sorry now. Her battery life sucks compared to my N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i dont know where people get that the iphone battery life is great.. every one i know that has an iphone complains about battery. my boss and coworker are constantly complaining. my boss had a htc sensation, always complained about its battery as well, but says the iphone battery dies quicker.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaceman860:
Is tf4h the newest

BLACKED OUT LTE N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yes.

its the one set to 2 cores max and min by default :)

you can always change that manually if you want.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaceman860:
How would I change it

BLACKED OUT LTE N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
change it with a root file explorer, i use root explorer..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yes. That version ( can't recall the exact part number off the top of my head) is a fail

The newer chip which is replacing that turd has even higher clocks ( which is stupid) but at least it won't be broken.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
I can attest to that. The reception inside my office is not very good because of all the spare parts that we keep stock. But the data speed is good. I was outside with my friends last night. I got really good signal strength. Checked on phone status, signal strength is -60dBm but my data speed is always bad or slow around that area. I could barely refresh Tapatalk or send WhatsApp messages if I didn't use Wi-Fi.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
People will always complain about battery life. They always want more. And most don't understand any of the tech that is running on their battery's that make it even worse. MOARRR BATTRRY RAWR!

But iOS is far more efficient than android Its just the way it is.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
-60 DB! Wow....Ive NEVER gotten near that ever.....If Im in the low 80's Im ecstatic.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
this is the truth. and i was gonna write this, but got distracted and forgot.

this might be true„ but i really dont know much about it so cant argue against it :angel:

if it is true, then i see it as being very efficient in one place, but lacking in other places. same as many other devices.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sukhi:
Is TF4H undervolted by default ? I can't see the voltages in Trickster
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
It doesn't matter if the data speed is slow. I used to dismiss it because I thought good signal strength equals to good data speed. But after reading simms posts, it does make sense. Maybe signal strength is just that, for communication like phone calls or sending SMS. It doesn't relate to data speed.

There's this club that I used to go to. Used to have poor reception inside it but data speed was good. Then they installed something to strengthen the reception inside the club.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no. and voltage control isnt enabled in trinity yet, so you wouldnt see it in trickster.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Kid in the other room has a iPhone 5.... I know about from that and all the factual reviews of the devices over the years.

But it's a phone. Turn up the display brightness and your battery drops. It has a very powerful SoC with a massive GPU. If you put them to use your battery will pay the the price.

When you look at the size of the battery and it's performance in the iPhone it is crystal clear that their platform is just better on the battery. And it's not some bs that the android fanboys always say. It has no widgets and the os is simple thats why. Nonsense. Apple just does it better,
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
[MENTION=1490705]simms[/MENTION] http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44945043
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
what am i looking for there.. dirty flashing, the build, or that polish bank app that doesnt work :confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Dirty flashing. Just for entertainment purpose.

BTW first dreadlock while typing this on latest psx
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I vote polish bank app myself :p

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
he might just have to clear its data, if he hasnt tried yet(i didnt see that he said he did).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Watching how care free my wife is with her iPhone, same as my daughter,I don't think you can generalize that either.

Based on use, the iPhone "does better" or not.

It's all gray, in both worlds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Don't lie, you don't have a boss. As far as we know you are the boss!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
damn you for making me want to thank a post when im out of thanks! :mad:

and i am not bruce springsteen!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Just send us a phonemelter. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I am finally getting some good battery life. Not I started out at 90% after ROM flash. There is some quadrant that you don't see in the screenshot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
He never shared any of the Apollyon builds to see if any phone reacts better to them than his?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Man this new xda app sucks. It only posted one of the two screenshots.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
my browser works fine :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Negative!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
do you really think its safe enough??? :eek:

a REAL test kernel, be warned--> Trinity-Four-Apollyon-4.3-ANY_d.zip http://goo.gl/eBgai5

its max is 2052mhz. i can not run it more than taking a screenshot when i set it to 2052. if you do attempt, leave fsync on. i have been bitten a few times trying. i can kinda run it at 1944, but it eventually stops running, lol. also run 1944mhz with fsync on. 1836mhz runs great for me. BUT.. if you put the phone to sleep at 1836mhz or above, itll freeze with the screen off. you will have to force reboot to bring your phone back. also, at 1836mhz and above, you might crash and experience other issues, so you have been warned! oh, at 1726mhz and below, it runs perfectly :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I guess I didn't have to but I thanked you anyway. :beer:

BTW why did you wait till I went to the bar
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
The screen off funny business is why 1836 isn't back yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
To tickle your sense of adventure.

Google Apollyon before you touch the kernel....that's warning anyone should heed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Well I've been playing around with the test kernel and pretty much have no luck above 1836 basically its either unstable or just reboots.

However I've actually had no issues at 1836 just to test it out I set it at 1836/1836 with all four cores enabled and just used my phone like always for the last half hour. I ran several quadrants and put some stress on the phone and everything worked just fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
1836 gives me no issues either, runs wonderfully. except putting the phone to sleep..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I haven't had any issues yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
at 1836/1836 or at 1836/384? its at 1836/1836 where the issue is.