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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
I doubt it. A heavily edited video with a "leaked" device just doesn't make sense. There would have been more than 3 pairs of eyes who would've seen the video before releasing it to the world but no one cried foul. This is just an example of an "easter egg" type of thing that Google is famous for. They just miscalculated that it would get stored spotted so quickly…or did they?! Hmmm
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
some more from earlier..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Google is not famous for unauthorized device leaks.

People who have access to these devices know better than to be out in public with it. Leaks of devices come from supply chain sources or somebody who just doesn't want their job anymore and doesn't care about getting sued.

Its very reasonable that the people who tossed together the video of the statue wouldn't even be thinking of checking to see if everybody in the video isn't showing something they shouldn't. They should know better to be doing something so damn stupid in the first place.

Google and any OEM for that matter is not known to be caught having their staff leak devices.

Google isn't silly enough to purposely put a device into the video to see if people would catch it. That's absurd.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I contributed the missing "n" from being an artifact from the video encoding. They removed the video pretty quickly, so all I've seen is the screenshot that all of us has seen. 1-3 frames before or after the n might be perfectly legible. Also we've only seen one screenshot, so once it hit the front page of whatever blog broke the story, everyone else just shows the same screenshot instead of grabbing their own.

[MENTION=2986645]albundy2010[/MENTION] I agree. Seems accidental to me. AFAIK the unveiling wasn't a public event, and they are at work. If you can't test out the new device at work, where can you test it at? I do agree he probably should have not brought his device to a filmed event, and I'm sure he will have a "talk" to his superiors as you suggest. Another way for leaks is visiting tech blogs with out changing your user-agent. Although the last time I heard of this was the Verizon iPhone.

Also as mentioned above, sure there might have been at least 3 pairs of eyes checking the video, but once it hits the net, you suddenly have thousands of eyes checking the video. Software bugs are found the same way. You can do all the in house testing you want, but as soon as your product goes live, that's when the real testing happens. That's why public betas have become so popular, free testing.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
That was the plan. With many still on 4.2.2 and kitkat apparently around the corner, the N4 could end up being the one device that doesn't see a fully developed kernel between 4.2.2 and 4.4

NP, N7 (tegra3), N10 are all pretty much where they left off on 4.2.2 now, note 2 does well on 4.3 too.

I would much rather bring the N10 to where other nexii have gotten than take the n4 kernel much further in this stopgap android release that is 4.3.

This doesn't mean I won't work on the n4 kernel, it just won't be my priority to work on it and go bug hunting, and if I work on it, it will be guaranteed to be identical to the 4.2.2 version (no new (gamma) interfaces)

Basically keep it at 1728 MHz max if I have to.

I would need feedback on how many can sleep the Apollyon kernel at 1836MHz max. Vs how many reboot at 1836 (if they could run 1836 fine on 4.2.2)

If it sounds like I'm no fan of 4.3, well, I'm not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
And who could blame you. 4.3 is a cursed release.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
It does, doesn't it, but then again, we're talking of a company that names their software releases after desserts, but I digress. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
It's a huge leak, because there's no space for speculation: it shows the new nexus logo and the LG logo. This isn't the same as when they released hangouts and a 7" tablet with notification led appeared on promo video. Moreover they've removed the video.

But I don't think that employee is in troubles for taking that device outside. I bet they saw the unveiling as a good chance to test its camera, screen or whatever. Moreover, there are at lest 2 guys in the video with, the other one is a guy in a blue t-shirt.

By the way, the form factor looks like a LG G2 (rounded corners too), although the back is completely different.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Here's a prayer for a plastic (hard or soft) back on the next Nexus..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
If this is it, I'm sticking with N4 for a while.

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Are these really that tasty? Or rare?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Oh here's the full video if you haven't seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GGEbNVG9O8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Really? Don't you like the glass back?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I really don't keep my phone at 1836/1836 to give you the feedback you are asking for. ;) All can say is that 1836 is quite stable. I ran an Antutu at those freq in the middle of summer. :cool: Granted it was hooked up to the wall. I run 596/1836 interactive 2-cores as a daily driver sometimes. I haven't notice a problem with deep sleep.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Shattered once already..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
You are right, this would be the perfect solution :D

Guys let's watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKOrkLxOBoY

They are really ****ing genious there is no doubt but all these things are taking me to think that this is the best troll ever :laugh:

Talking about the (n)exus5 pic I have to say that for me this is part of the troll (my mind is evil) and the face of the Nexus5 guy speaks for itself but if this is really the new Nexus5 I really have to say that I'm really loving the minimalistic style and the matt back!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] muyoso:
How can anyone think that the nexus 5 thing is a "leak"??? You think they just happened to have a shot with the nexus 5, nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus all lined up? And that no one caught the guy front and center holding an unreleased device before posting the video? Come on. . . . .

Its not like it was some guy far away in the background that could be missed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah seems to me the missing "n" is a reflection. I'm on mobile so it's difficult for me to go frame by frame. But you can see the reflection go across the word nexus either to reflect the n at the last frame or to cut to the next scene right before the reflection hits the n.

And after watching the video, this is a planned leak. The person with the "n5" is squared perfectly in the shot. Even standing right next to someone with a N4. I highly doubt Google used a 3rd party video editing company to throw the video together. I'm sure it was done all in house.

Not to mention planned leaks are a common marketing tool now. Apple started having "leaks" well before Steve died. They were always assumed to be planned leaks since Apple always had a good track record of keeping things under wraps. Especially leaks that didn't come from manufacturers, but straight from Cupertino.

The "leak" builds unnecessary hype. I'm sure Google has picked up a few things from Apple on how to build hype. This is a good start.

Edit: if the new N5 is soon found left behind in a bar, we know this was all planned ;)

**not saying the iPhone at the bar was planned, just saying Google is following Apple on planned leaks.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
First shot at 4.0. Good? Bad?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
Yeah, I was about to say the same thing.

I do like the back glass of my phone. I use it with the plastic film that came with it, no case. It's not cracked but when it will, I'll probably buy a dbrand back vinyl to hide the cracks.

http://dbrand.com/submodels/nexus-4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Good, but you should have in mind that we score like 1000 points more in the new antutu than before with the same setup.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Thanks! I know that the new scores are inflated and not quite comparable. I was wondering what you guys are getting at 1.7G
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
tasty i dont know about, never tried to eat any. but rare they are not. quite opposite really, they are very common.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I'm running stock kernel right now, I find it the smoothest. What I'm pretty sure is that I have never reached that I/O score you've got. None of my history benchmarks has such I/O score. O_O
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I was being sarcastic about you posting so many pictures of them. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vortex1969:
No looks on par to me. Just ran one real quick to compare.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
in my circle of friends we have an affectionate word to describe people like you(notice the spelling difference).. fukker :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
What ROM are you on? Your Dalvik and 3d scores are way better than mine.

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:eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I didn't know what fukker means and then I looked on urban dictionary:

"Someone who is like an average ****er, but a bit nastier."

Ahahahhaahah :sly:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Seems an accurate description :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its a good thing, thats what i call morfic when hes messing with me too. f*cker would be when someone is a serious assh*ole, fukker is something id call a friend :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Not according to urban dictionary it seems :D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
and good day guys, ill leave this here to start the day off for me.. :)

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since when is the urban dictionary the expert on all things vocabulary. ill make a "southern brooklyn" dictionary and itll be the expert on all vocabulary brooklyn related :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vortex1969:
PSX latest and Purified 153.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Urban dictionary, so necessary when you are playing online games. I still remember to kill someone in a mmorpg because he said "afk" and I thought it meant something like "as*hole f*** u". :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
deleted :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Ahhahahaah yeah urban dictionary saved me from similar situation too :laugh:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...o-with-the-samsung-galaxy-note-3-at-ifa-2013/

Why Samsung still uses a hardware button for home and a menu button is beyond me. I understand they've been building the Galaxy brand but come on.

Well I'm off to bed.

*cough* hopefully there's a new PSX build when I wake up *cough*

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
we have eta for kitkat?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Likely Oct/Nov like each year when the new Nexus comes out. Halloween would be an appropriate release day for such a sweet treat.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
And nothing on the features for now!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
dont spread this around yet, i dont want people to freak out and post only about this in every thread on xda. kitkat features.. http://goo.gl/ETYc1h
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Wow! Impressive list....I'll keep it on the downlow ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Delete.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Samsung uses a physical home button because apple has one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Mainly cuz its my Bday!! hahahaha :cool:

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
A bit random, but what would be the gamma settings to get the colors of Trinity 4.3 on Trinity 152 for 4.2.2? I can't stand 4.3's problems anymore but I did get attached to the colors.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Speaking of Samsung and home button. Chris Lacey made a funny.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
I'd feel like a power ranger with one of those! That'd be sweet actually...

Sent from my Nexus 7 2013
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Or **** tracy
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kepapas:
Sup playas
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
whats his name?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kepapas:
Mr.Rex running 2.0 (2 months old) cricketwormkitkatpie
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I assume its a bearded dragon? If so, he's got some great color.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
a few more from my g+ today..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Mr. Rex is watching the camera like a boss :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
"....killer bees on a swarm

Rain on ya dollar's ass, disco dorm

For you to even touch my skill

You gotta have the one killer bee and he ain't gonna kill now"

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chinthekng:
Anybody thinking of the Z1, it looks really good. 20.7 mp rear camera and 2mp front camera. 2.2Ghz Snapdragon 800 processor, 1080p display, expandable storage and 3000mAh battery. Ive always wanted to try a sony xperia device especially because of their willingness to cooperate with developers and the community, and its water proof. Seems like a good upgrade from the nexus 4 in my opinion.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] polaris441:
Z10 is blackberry
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Yeah probably he meant Z1

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
You mean the Xperia Z1. Didn't think the Blackberry Z10 had those great features, otherwise I would have bought it already.

Yes. the Z1 looks like a great update for the Nexus 4. My only problem with the xperias are carrier related. Most often than not they are exclusive to the most expensive carrier in my country, that's why I never wanted one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chinthekng:
Yeah i accidentally typed in a 0 i meant Z1

Yeah the carrier thing is fairly annoying but i dont usually leave the us so i dont usually think much of it. If it comes to at&t i might seriously consider it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
The Xiaomi MI3 looks pretty good too, http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ing-at-327-no-you-cant-buy-one-outside-china/ very cheap but hard to get outside of China.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I love to see how all high end phones are going above 3000 mAh in terms of battery capacity. It should be a must from now on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Same with 1080p, 5" and 13MP
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
3000 mAh are ok but, for me, 5" are really too much :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
Z1 was great whole better than this plastic sh1t note 3...but but but...something importand...nexus 5 haven't released (i dont think that it will be as close on specs as Z1) and....300$>700$
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
For those on the east coast tomorrow night at 11:27 look up

http://www.nasa.gov/content/ladee-ready-for-launch-0/#.UiidFXfld8E
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Unwanted in my friend's shed!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
spiders are good, they keep the real bad bugs away :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Until a brown recluse nibbles on you, and you lose a leg. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
The nexus 5 spotted at the FCC. It has official LTE.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/05/lg-nexus-5-fcc/#continued

Speaking of which.

Here's some of my speedtest result in Montréal on LTE on Telus/Koodo network. I get 30Mbit/s on cable at home and I get better speed on my cellular device. The big difference is that my bandwidth limit at home is 150 GB but on my phone it's 6 GB.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
but thats a garden spider. you can tell by its web, body shape, and by how its sitting in its web :)

but yea, those brown recluse, and black widows! there arent many native north american spiders that are very harmful to people. but now there are many kinds of spiders from elsewhere in the US now too. they came with people or products mostly. the brown widow is very common in many areas, theyre not as poisonous as their cousins. i think they are from africa originally. i had one in my bedroom.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Golden silk orb weaver

Aka

Banana spider.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_silk_orb-weaver

Non venomous to humans.

We got some big ones here in Florida.

Just do a Google search for golden silk orb or banana spider.

If you've ever seen the picture of a spider with a bird in its web, that's what kind of spider it was.

Besides the rare bird (out of the thousands I have seen, I've only seen one or two big enough to catch a bird, and only one actually catch one. I used to feed that one bugs** I caught in the yard and contributed that to her massive growth),

**Nymphs and full grown Lubber grasshoppers.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romalea_guttata (they can grow up 3")

as Simms said, they are great pest control. Because of their size, their webs are usually between two trees. They also are common around the overhang of the roof of your house. Anywhere there is frequent winged insect travel. They can help keep your home free of other insects.

All the big ones are females. The males are literally 1/3 to 1/4 the size and like some other spiders are consumed after mating.

The "coolest" feature is the skull on its back.

Edit: yeah [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] we have 4 types of widows down here, and the brown recluse. A tip for those who are not familiar with the widow species (black, brown, and red. The brown and red look very similar). Look for the eggs. They are round with or without spikes, depending on the type. Check under your lawn furniture. These are very common places and places you are most likely to come in contact with a widow. They prefer being under these type of areas as to protect the eggs. They use their nests more as a home than a tool to catch prey, so they aren't too often out in the open.

http://www.venombyte.com/venom/spiders/florida/default.asp

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I will wait until Nexus 6 (the replicant :P). There's no way I'm buying a phone with 5" screen a 2300 mAh battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
I'm disappointed by the battery size too. We can just hope that Kit Kat and the S 800 will be more battery friendly.

The Optimus G had better battery life than the N4 even though it had the same battery capacity and overall the same phone. Might be the cheaper components but let's hope for the best.

I'm enjoying my Nexus 4 too much to consider buying another phone. I'll just be sad once a lot of dev goes over to the new device and neglect this phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I have to admit that I am very happy with the nexus4 battery life.

With the stock ROM I never reached more than 4 hrs SOT but with Carbon ROM + Trinity Kernel I am doing 5/5.30 hrs SOT with heavy use so I have no problem to finish the day with my battery.

Let's hope this new kitkat is optimized for the battery life and stay tuned :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
On the nexus 5. I don't constantly switch phones. I only get a new one when my old gets busted or so slow its frustrating to use.

But I wouldn't worry about battery size. Especially if you're coming from this device.

Of course I don't know ( well not of course I haven't looked into it yet myself and klug hasn't published his g2 piece yet) for sure how the s800 is on battery but I suspect it does quite well.

Of course if you manage to stress the chip it will eat power. But the lower binned s800 in that massive Sony phone at full throttle is clocked to 1.5ghz and full speed on the adreno 330. That alone gives you a very rough idea of how power hungry it is. Of course at least in that huge phone.

Battery size is like the megapixel game. People just look at the size of the battery and go bigger = more battery life. And they are dead wrong. That applies when its the only variable. When comparing different platforms its just a piece of puzzle.

A good recent example. All the hubbas out there that said the new nexus 7 has a smaller battery and therefore it has worse battery life than the 2012 model.

Moral of the story is wait till you have a idea of how power hungry the hw platform is before you decide on what size battery will suffice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
A dream coming true tonight.. <3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jfmac:
Hi there folks! Long time reader of this thread & Trinity user, but I've encountered a bug? and it's time to post:

I had some random reboots in the past week using TF4h. They randomly appear out of nowhere so I don't know how to reproduce, so maybe it's kernel related? I've attached last_kmsg. I hope it's relevant.

Btw, big thanks to morfic for this awesome and bull****-free kernel. I've been using _thalamus kernels on Nexus S, then he stopped developing and recommended Trinity. I've never flashed anything else on my GNex and now N4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Maybe you are right, I saw the nexus 7 2013 review too. I can't compare the Nexus with my previous phone (a second hand htc desire) but I think it does quite well with 2100 mAh. So I think it's efficient, but I would like to be bigger so It can last 3 days without problems. That's why I want at least 3000 mAh of battery on my next phone, I want the same leap in power and in battery, otherwise it doesn't deserve a change for me.