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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Hi guys!

Finally, as someone said, Carbon 4.3 is out :thumbup:

Now I am with a 4.2.2 rom + 4.2.2 kernel and I would like to upgrade my phone to a 4.3 set.

All I have to do is just flash the new ROM and the new kernel (plus gapps obviously) as usual or I have to flash something else after or before? Don't know, I mean patches, bootloader/radio update etc etc?

Thanks for your answers mates :cool:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Yep. I'd suggest you Wipe everything except internal memory. Flash bootloader, radio, rom, kernel,gapps, and SU if needed.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
SU is necessary with all Roms atm I think.

On a different note, our beach for the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJRw5u_gMEI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Got it!

Another question: "Flash bootloader and radio zips is necessary or it's optional?"

What a peaceful and fantastic place :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Wow. Heavenly.

Btw, an incompatible kernel ( mostly anything other than stock) breaks SU. I was using PA with embedded su and it was fine until i flashed Franco's.

I'd say its necessary. Otherwise, the cell reception (for radio) might get screwed up. Anyway, this is all just to keep the phone up to date.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Aha, didn't know that, thanks!

On the bootloader and radio; Google updates them for a reason.. ;)

(simms will be here any minute and tell you he's still on the froyo kernel without problems anyway.. :p)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Thanks for the answers guys! Now I only need to find SU and bootloader & radio files and I am ready to flash :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
http://download.chainfire.eu/345/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokiagye:
Hi my friends on download page it don't exist any kernel for cm only for aosp
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Same kernel should work for cm as well, unless cm did something aweful to their kernel again to break compatibility with aosp kernels. It happened before. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokiagye:
I am on slim build 8
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43957901&postcount=20068

tf152 is the last trinity kernel built for Android 4.2.

It's stable but if you want a "stabler" build, get the tf133 from http://derkernel.com
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
Flashing SU is not necessary anymore with Vanir builds, which includ koush's. Guys, you really should give it a try, it's just awesome !

Edit : i honestly think Vanir is the fastest rom atm, and bugfree.

For those interested, reminder :

http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/mako/

http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/

On a different note, i could go and lay on this beach :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
is there a thread somewhere for his rom ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
Not for Mako ; go to their G+ community, and you can follow Maguro threads on xda and rootz as well ; also on Droidhive.

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Not for Mako ; go to their G+ community, and you can follow Maguro threads on xda and rootz as well ; also on Droidhive.

Best changelog : http://vaniraosp.goo.im/#/q/status:merged,n,z
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
You on commission or something..? O_o
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
Try it, you'll see ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokiagye:
OK I flash the 133 with 1450 cpu on antutu the score go from 16600 to 2100 but I lose zram of the settings how can enable it again? And on benkmars is better but on real use I think is a little slower..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
You don't need zram with 2 gb of RAM. That was a useful back in the day or on low end spec phone having 512 mb of RAM or less.

More info:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2320734
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Ffs, ok then. :p

Does it have nav bar customisation, transparency & colour & stuff..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
yes ; it has lots of features (Halo, PA Pie, Tablet Mod, & stuff) ; but it has mostly the speed !

I know, i talked about Vanir several times, so sorry for being redondant ; but i think they don't receive as much credits as they deserve.

Anyway, profit guys :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
and why do we(you) need zram on a nexus 4?!?

good morning btw :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rejanmanis:
Well, i have no idea, you ask me, i ask who ?

Btw, good evening sir, its 10 pm :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its 11am here :)

i ask because zram is one of those things that gets thrown in just because it makes a good buzzword(as some other "features" too). its not needed on a device that has 2gb of ram. and if you know what zram is, its kind of silly on a nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rejanmanis:
Yeah, i've seen this option since my Nexus S,

But i've seen this option on several N4 custom ROM as well.

Classic stuff comes to modern phone, it really unnecessary :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
you mind if I sent you a PM, with a few questions about places on my route ?

Thank you. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
Delete.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Compressing ram only makes it slower....no idea why its being used on 2GB ram devices.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mantulis:
/This
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
google maps 7.1 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...for-the-maps-api-and-possibly-some-bug-fixes/

download links at the bottom of the page.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Couple of spheres & stuff.. ;)

The (kinda) bbq thing: traditional way of grilling lamb. Fire in the middle & hang it around like that. Meat slides off the bones when it's ready...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I got the last night and was surprised. I never get any Google updates pushed to my devices first. But I got that before I seen it mentioned anywhere. My devices haven't seen the Google plus or search updates that were announced for example.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
really? not in the play store?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Was walking down Hollywood boulevard and I saw this! Never thought that the nexus 4 was famous :D

Sent from my Saber-Tooth mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yeah. No updates for me on the play store yet for Google+ etc. I am usually on the 2nd or third day of the rollout.

But I got maps prior to seeing anything about it being updated. Which made me go hmmm.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
maybe they know what you use most, and that maps is more important to you?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
When maps version 7 was came out it wasn't pushed to my devices for at least a week. Closet to two.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
ok then.. when they say random, then they really mean random.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

91g should have better battery life than 90g, ceteris paribus right? I am still working through my addiction to maximizing life :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
Running at 1Ghz on 91G with Conservative Governor and ROW IO Scheduler. No major performance hit. I do notice however that a couple of games that always took time to load on my Desire S (maybe 10 to 15 seconds) now take some time on my N4 (up to 10 seconds). Still usually not quite as long as the DS but noticeable. The Governor makes little difference in this respect.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
ceteris paribus, meaning running them as they boot up, 91 should give better battery

proof it

about the gamma question, there will be gamma

i don't recommend conservative, it's just more usable than from stock now and may need further tweaking

I don't recommend interactive, a certain somebody knows why ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
newbie here from franco kernel: can i use this trinity with STOCK rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
I used this with Stock with no problems. Just remember that you have to flash a stock (?) kernel first before using any Trinity or any other Kernel when coming from Franco. As I understand it, his ram disk configuration is different and it will cause problems if you just try to flash over the top of it.

Hope this helps :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Thanks, yes, stock kernel needs to be reflashed (for stock rom, custom rom kernel for those), something in his ramdisk gets other kernels that use anykernel script stuck on Google logo if flashed over Franco direct.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iamsmallpang:
91G oooo...no!!!! it crazy (Conservative & ROW) MAX 1820 MIN 386 Stock Rom

crazy butter smooth ,

THANKS! Good Job
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Where are you at right now with regard to settings?

Email me with as much details as possible.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Utini:
Is anyone in this thread coming from franco.kernel and can share his experience/opinion/comparison ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Logi_Ca1:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Franco's kernel for some reason, always give me mobile Internet issues. FYI I define it as having a connection, with the H+ sign clearly showing activity going on, but nothing is happening. Web pages aren't loading etc.

Performance and battery wise they seem similar, but I want to be actually using my phone so I prefer Trinity.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pac213:
Can someone post the default voltages for each frequency? I seem to adjust some voltages and I can't set it back to default.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Morfic, are UV numbers different based on bin? I thought i read awhile back that you adjusted voltage tables based on that or perhaps that was just POSSIBLE voltage as in you cant lower your voltage a certain amount if your bin is lower? Curious as i have a faster phone but this seems to have no effect on benchmarks... Do like that I'm theoretically able to under volt more. Has this even been proven? Seems anecdotal so far.

Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.

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BTW conservative seems pretty good... Haven't tested its standby battery life. Stock MHz (1458 max and 384 min) and whatever voltages are set on conservative with row scheduler. I have a tick under 2 hours on screen with 70% battery left. This phone tends to get slightly drain faster during the last 50% than the first. Either way it seems i can probably get about the same 5 hours on screen that i would on on demand. Keyboard seems to work more sluggishly with conservative for some reason.

Given that this governor uses multiple frequencies rather than max and min like on demand, how does conservative differ from interactive?

Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] robs898:
There is a clear preferences and reboot feature in the Trinity Kernel Toolbox app if you have it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Conservative steps over more frequencies, it doesn't jump up like Ondemand.

Interactive is more like Ondemand, but has more like a 1st and final Max.

It first goes to the intermediary step, then to final Max based on load.

Your faster bin means you run lower voltages than my fast binned phone.

If we run the same speeds, they will score the same. But yours would be cooler than mine.

It should affect battery life, but I'm on track for 5 hours too.

Have you tried dropping voltages from how kernel boots?

My fast bin locks up at an extra 75mV

Runs stable at an extra 50mV though.

Testing on " default as booted" though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pac213:
I'm just using trickster mod app so there's no functionality for that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
heres my numbers from yesterday, before i finally fell asleep. probably had another hour left. i like how the screen doesnt take as much battery % than other devices i own.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

There's no objective way of comparing two kernels as every user has different expectations and usage pattern.

You'll have to try them both yourself I'm afraid...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
its like apples vs oranges.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Utini:
Hmm I wonder which Kernel actually could give more problems with future updates/upgrade? From what I read franco.kerlen is the only kernel which won't overwrite system files (=good?) but still u need to flash a stock kernel first before being able to use some other kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

A few posts above yours.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Speaking of apps in general. Man this new yahoo weather app is beautiful.

Doesn't seem to have manual control of refresh rate and therefore I am hoping it only refreshes on launch. But damn its looks good. Performance isn't top notch but good enough. Me like.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i just installed gtalk and got rid of hangouts, since hangouts is the only place i get that keyboard freeze(i got one today about an hour ago, first one in 3 days). im curious if having talk will make a difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
:confused:

all my im´s get delay for notifications: whatsapp, hangouts and viber.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
with screen off or screen on, or both?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
both.

but more with screen off.

btw - i have a freeze when type a reply on tripadvisor app....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
when trinity includes voltage control, raise your cpu voltage a little at 384mhz. as of right now, the voltages are all default(except higher cpu speed), there no undervolting included. your issue happens often when 384mhz is undervolted. but it seems that the default voltage at 384 might be not enough for you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Any help with messaging wakelock? And others? I lost 20% in 1hr
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Teadious:
Messaging wakelock? Shouldn't be happining, never seen it before.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
messaging wakelock.. is it supposed to be? how will you get your messages for that app if theres no wakelock to wait for them to come in? what are the others? do you use greenify?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
I had that on slim with ak kernel can't remember. Anyways. For people with that wakelock if you clear cache in the mms.apk in settings and reboot that wakelock goes
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I got 10 wakelocks from greenify. Got so fed up I uninstalled it. Didn't see the benefit of greenify . Anybody care to explain?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
Only use BBS. Best app you only need. Never saw the benefit of greenify personally
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you do realize that wakelocks ARE how your phone is supposed to work, right? i donr ever look at wakelocks, ever. youll drive yourself crazy trying to resolve non existent issues. sure, a rarity, theyll be a wakelock thats been around longer than it should. but it can be solved in other ways. greenify is a great app, you might not know how to use it.

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i had to leave bbs alone last year, it used too much battery :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rysup:
You obviously don't use the Facebook app ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Greenify is good if you pay real close attention to what its doing. Something I sucked at and had to uninstall it 'cause it had a tendency to shut off stuff while I still needed it.

Haven't noticed any difference with it gone either.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tvcat-xda:
I use it to shut off the freaking annoying whatsapp.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i greenify all my apps, except widgets that im using, tkt and basic core apps that i need running, and talk/hangouts and gmail(or any apps that i expect a notification, only those two for me). also, i do not let it auto greenify! that will set a wakelock :p i put the greenify widget on my homescreen and press it to greenify the open/background apps, sometimes when i pass by tge homescreen, or before i pur the phone to sleep.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
BBS really uses that much battery? :0
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
at the time, it was behaving badly, and i hardly used it. i just never got to reinstalling it, realized that i didnt need it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Ahh. I just leave it on my phone, doesn't seem to do much on my phone but I could definitely freeze it and see if it makes any differences in the future.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Android period needs much better user control of apps / multitasking etc

The android team knows it mentioned it at I /o. Right now all we got is the hidden ap opps but hopefully much more control comes in 5.0

The app free for all needs to be fixed. Or at least improved. Shouldn't have to use root stuff like greenify or autoruns to have control over what runs on the device.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
youre right, and you shouldnt have the need for those kinds of apps. but since when do we live in a perfect world? maybe, in the future when we are taken over by computers, and people dont design/create these kinds of things, things will run like they should. until then, i dont expect perfection ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Nope we dont live in a perfect world. But one where we usually get gradual improvements and we have.

It wasn't that long ago if you wanted go stop a system app from running you needed root. Or to back up your apps. Or until just now limit a applications access to something

I'm just looking forward to the improvements.

I don't expect perfection but I do expect progress. And we have been getting it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well said, even perfectly said :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Many only watch the keynote of I/O or the highlights. Notice what is one of the first things talked about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5OOJDIrYls&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
So I think I need to calibrate my battery...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
I'd say so :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Besides built in HDR, no edit.

I love this phone.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Besides built in HDR, no edit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i didnt know which post to thank :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
The first is fine. I'll say I'll edit the while on desktop, but that'll never happen.

BTW did the pic show up? Tapa isn't showing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah it showed up. :sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokiagye:
Guest with this kernel on 1450 GHz I get on antutu 21000

And on 1880ghz 13000 what is happens?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
1880..?:eek::what:

Thermal throttle probably kicks in.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
There is no 1880 setting and id guess you are experiencing throttling if you ran back to back.

Edit got beat on this one.:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you guys missed it, its not the 1880 that im really gonna highlight, its the 1880ghz.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Lol I caught it just didn't want to be that guy. (Aka [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] ) :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
id also say that you are being throttled. disable your thermal throttle, or cool your device down and rebench.

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that guy :rolleyes:

:angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokiagye:
It was not the temperature the problem but thanks any way
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
try changing your voltage. i always had to raise my voltage at 1836mhz to 1275mV.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I was a bit skeptical flashing the latest test kernel on stock at first but just figured I'd try it anyway. I gotta say its pretty damn awesome once hw overlays is disabled.

Certainly a smoother feel and my min clock won't jump to 1026 all the time which irritated me on the stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davidbar93:
Can't OC more then 1620Ghz on my device... If I will OC to 17280 it will reboot after a few seconds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Sounds like a voltage issue. I've always had no trouble OCin my phone. I do have a faster binned one though and it didn't mind running 1836mhz at 1200mv.

Every phone likes different settings though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davidbar93:
It happens on every kernel that I've tried on 4.3 roms. But it's fine ,I don't want to overclock it more than 1620Ghz ,it's enough for me.

Just wanted to share the problem.

My voltage settings are default.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I'm done with JSS15J builds and their freezes. I'm switching back to jarjar124 JWR66V rom for now. Anyone can recommend me any JWR66V rom? Thanks.

I hope someday we have a bug free JSS15J build or at least a jwr66v trinity kernel.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Try PA + TF4H, its going good here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
I didn't know jarjar had a JWR ROM. All I can find is a JSS.

On another note, the xda premium app has been updated. Looks a lot like the latest tapatalk, if I'm not mistaken. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
It's the same rom, but jwr build hasn't been updated since first version, it is basically a stock rom with clear recents and advanced reboot, which is enough sometimes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Link please? :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dawn Breed:
You find the link in the second post in his Minimus thread.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43949116&postcount=2

As I said, I think it's a first version and it doesn't include many dalvik commits that his JSS build has.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
PSX + trinity (or stock), haven't had any of those freezes or any other issue for more than a week now..