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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I always wanted to visit your country. But I need to get 2 more masters degrees, work 6 jobs and sell a limb each year to afford living there.

A friend of mine lives in the Alps so I have been trying to go on a ski trip for a while now.

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I agreed with you! ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Just wait until Anand publishes his break down on the A7 SoC. And how it truly is in its own class in mobile. How able did it right etc.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
We got delicious chocolate here though ;) not something to miss
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
OK. I'm sold. Off to make a baby so I can sell it on the slave market in couple years.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
now see, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. use a root file explorer to change the gamma/colors, not trickster.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rest0ck:
Of course but this is just ..nothing you could even call "beauty" :P

Can you please explain to me how I'm able to change the colors through a root file explorer?

thanks in advance
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
change the values then save. here are the locations..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rest0ck:
Thanks :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dark Fear:
hi guys

does this kernel support gamma settings? (if yes, Faux or Franco's app should i use?)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yes, look two posts above your post. and not fauxs' nor the current francos values, its francos previous implimentation of gamma control.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dark Fear:
tnx

can i control it with Franco's app?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i dont know, you can try. if it works, the colors will probably be off a bit though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rest0ck:
No, not possible (only RGB values)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Here! Use trickster:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
F the xda app
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
90 > 91 is the opinion of one guy right now, you may have to try both yourself to see if it's right or not
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
can you retest 91 for another day?

kind of curious if you can repeat your experience
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 309041291a:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I have to oppose the 90G>91G. I found 91 to be better for battery

Sent from my Trinity powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kakito:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Again this is my personal opinion for my usage since the 28th. I can flash 91G again and see how it goes. That's why I was wondering what anyone else had to say.

Will do a clean flash tomorrow of 91G again.

I was monitoring battery usage closely which I do anyways.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Just wondering if it's repeatable or a one off cause affecting your battery life while you were on 91.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sk3201:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

That slim star rom is flying, wow. Thanks for that. I agree to the font, hard to read. Tried to change it with ROM tool box, choose roboto, but it changed only partly. Any advice ?

Edit: probably I should mention I was before on dbj and just wiped system partition and flashed slim star over it, not my style, but was too lazy yesterday..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I don't have higher bench score with your Slimstar than with Slimbean

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] V8vroom:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

The Rasbean w/91G is a beast.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
I love high score

first Antutu running Steve's AOKP PUB edition and Trinity 91G @1728 :
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I do too but benchmarks have never been great for me on SlimRoms.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Sure Slimbean is not built for benchmark. You should try Steve's AOKP and set DPI to 241 like me and use Slim GApps then you'll have a Slim Steve's AOKP rom with powerful tweaks and fully customizable. And with Trinity kernel you have a Tri-Slim-Steve's AOKP-Powerfull-Awesome ROM !
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Eric-1987:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I got 13k on antutu how come mine is so low?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Slim Gapps are just regular Gapps debloated lol. There aren't any tweaks in the package. I don't like AOKP that much either.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Slim GApps are usefull if you change DPI because they avoid compatibility issue with Playstore
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
More infos would be usefull.

Rom, Kernel, CPU Frequ..., governor, ...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

The multi-DPI Play Store is included in it. That's why.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nebucatnetzer:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Well that's not really slim then.

Nope they're not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I know it has the multi-DPI Play Store, but besides that, I'm not sure what other "special" features it has.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
From a few pages back, this is why I love T-Mobile.

This is the price for 2 lines, add an additional $20 for my wife's unlimited 4g. So we pay $100 before tax for both lines with unlimited texts and data plus 2.5gb of tethering.

You can't get a better price anywhere.

**Note: We have the "classic value plan". I don't believe they offer this plan anymore. It's only the unlimited minutes and text plan now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Tapa won't let me edit above, but I should also note that the 1000 mins are for each account. Which is much more than we use, but IIRC it was the lowest minute count they had at the time. They offered 400 mins for the old individual value plan, but I think 1000 was the lowest on the family value plan.

At some point they changed from 1000 shared minutes to 1000 individual minutes. T-Mobile just keeps making our plan better and better. (Like adding on free tethering, when we first got the unlimited data it was with 0 tethering, with no option to even add tethering, now it's a free 2.5gb).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
Should i use trickster or Trinity?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm on the same plan but with three lines. Average per line comes down to $43 after tax. No contract either.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svardskampe:
Eh, free tethering? Tethering is just passing your connection further on via Wifi, am I missing something here or what? It's not like they can prevent that...I think.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
They can and do. They used to watch just your user agent string. Now they actually watch the type of data going to your device. PDAnet hidden mode works, also iirc Bluetooth tethering works.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
they are pretty good about preventing it now-a-days. you can either use the free tethering that comes with the plan, buy a tether plan, or you get sent to the tmobile tether landing page with an option to buy a tether plan.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svardskampe:
Oh ye, as I recall I remember they outlawed that here in the Netherlands. As you buy a specific product, and a company can't dictate what you do with that product as it that violate some kind of privacy law or something. (It would be the same as they'd sell you flour in the supermarket, but when you use it for pancakes, you need to pay more than if you use it for baking cookies. Flour= flour, and so it's that you buy 1GB of data = 1GB of data, and what you want to do with that 1GB is completely up to you).

Oh, and also initially had t-mobile (well, actually Ben, but they are a daughter brand of t-mobile. Always get the daughter brand as those offer exactly the same, but cheaper as they are not "as known"), but I changed because their network was balls. I'm on Mobile Vikings now (on the KPN network). I hope their speed gets upped soon to 14,4 mbps as other KPN-daughterbrands already got that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah that sounds about right. I think its $10 to add another line plus whatever data package you want to add.

Yeah here in america its the opposite. We could probably get free tethering if we had metered data. But with unlimited plans there's no way tethering will be free. They still make money on unlimited plans because most people barely use 2gb a month. If everyone had free tethering we would have major over saturation problems. We would become AT&T in metro areas after the iPhone came out.

Here the mvno's have good prices, but I still have not found one that has a good of price with unlimited data as my current plan through T-Mobile. (Many tout unlimited data, but will quickly cut you off for abuse by going over 5gb). Not to mention matching the speed. I get ~18mb/s on hspa+ and ~30mb/s on LTE.

Another bonus T-Mobile has given us: no more international roaming. Free text, free "slow" data (not sure if EDGE or 3g), and calls are $0.20 a minute. No more crazy international plans and no more international roaming fees. T-Mobile USA users can now travel to like 90+ countries and not have to be paranoid about coming home to a $1000 phone bill.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svardskampe:
Why the **** can they implement free international roaming in the goddamn USA, which is almost a continent by itself, but here in Europe, they've got the time to leave "the market settle it out", and now laws are passed on a european level, forcing providers to offer their plans EU-wide....:/

But ye, speed...don't know why I would want higher than 10 mbps though. Got 2 mbps now, and it's fine for mobile use. I can appreciate the step to 14,4 mbps, but anything beyond....It's not like you're torrenting or downloading entire iso's from the internet with your phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Right now its only T-Mobile USA doing it, and they just started this like last week. Every other carrier will make you pay thousands of dollars unless you can get your sob story published in a newspaper or blog. Which by this point no one does because everyone has run the "you will get raped using your phone overseas" story.

And for torrenting and downloading whole isos. I do ;) its actually easier to download something on my phone and stream it to my roku than to use my PC and use plex to stream. The stuff I actually care about keeping I upload to my Google drive. (I pay the $5 a month for 100gb). It also helps when streaming in HD or playing music. I don't need the full 30mb, but it makes music and video start instantly. I used to be a delivery driver so until recently I used to use mobile data a lot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
More speed equals better battery life.

The faster you get the radio to enter a lower power state the better.

This device can't do it but lte envelope tracking is more awesomeness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
now with this i agree, and always contribute some of my better battery life lately to lte :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Have never thought of it that way, but makes total sense. If it takes me 3 mins to download a file instead of 10. That's 7 mins of connectivity power I'm saving. Besides the screen the radio is a huge power drain on our device.

Anyone who uses navigation while traveling knows you must have that thing plugged in if you want to use it more than a few miles. (GPS + radio + screen)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It makes a difference even in " regular" use like Web browsing. All those seconds here and there quickly add up to a lot less time with your radio at full power pulling down data.

Same thing applies for wifi. If you got two networks in your house with one being 5mbit and the other 50mbit. You will get better battery with the 50
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
No I don't remember, I love Apple products, mainly osx, my mbpr is a fine tool and at the time of purchase there was nothing coming close at the "much cheaper Windows laptop" arena.

And I just got a free os upgrade instead of paying for windows 8 by now.

You can't blindly hate everything a company does when some stuff is just right.

Aside, everyone hated Microsoft before Apple became the new target, what ever happened with that? Since when is Windows a good thing?

And I would remember you saying something positive about Apple, if I replied to you back then..... I'll have to worry about my memory.

I just wish it would still be possible to flash iPhone kernels, I'd love to get into that.

Everyone chew on that for a while. Your coin just got seriously flipped.

Why I like Android? Because it's OPEN, not because the hardware has always been the best.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Lol al being positive. :o

Just joking, I enjoy reading al's posts/rants. :sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Great comment, finally something contructive and nice.

Cant you be like that always? :D

Very good sir. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I meant that as positive about Apple, I think it would trigger an event I should notice, even if I often miss pages here unless [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] gives me a heads up on "can't miss" stuff.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah I know, just being a bit of a smart ass. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It wasn't a big deal. I said something nice about Apple and a user or two was like you should get a iPhone then, why do you have a nexus etc

I think what I talking about that time is how great it was the Apple put the carriers in their place. Or something to do with updates most likely.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
The funny thing is, it wasn't always like that. Apple went to all of the carriers and AT&T was the only one that agreed to Apple's terms. If AT&T didn't agree, Apple was going to go the Nexus route and sell directly to customers. Part of AT&T terms was exclusivity. After it became a huge success, all the other carriers starting kicking themselves when they saw their users leaving over one phone.

When the exclusivity deal was up, Apple had gained enough clout to pretty much ask and do whatever they want.

"Supposedly" Apple gets a cut of the data charges from the carriers from iPhone users. I always wondered if this was the real reason T-Mobile didn't get the iPhone officially for so long.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
What I mean my apple setting the carriers straight is not that.

Apple at first went to the carriers and pitched it. They turned it down and ended with Cingular then att blah blah.

That isn't the important part. What is why. They turned it down because apple wanted control No Custom carrier versions. No carrier logos. No carrier software / bloat control etc

They told all the carriers this is our device period. Keep you dirty hands out of it. All you do is provide service and that's at. And most said FU to apples demands.

And apple did not cave in and those stupid operators ( cough Verizon) sure ended up feeling stupid for passing.

To this day it's a rare to find anything similar outside of the GSM Nexus devices.

Apple essentially from the git go actually treated the user as the customer and not the carriers. Something that even in present day is rare OEMs have to do what the carriers say in order from them to carry the device. They are their customers not you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Can somebody help me with changing the under volt parameters through a root file explorer. It seems like Trinity has set lower undervolt threshold that can not be surpassed by trickster mod

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I think the lower undervolt threshold is around -100
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I just assume everyone knew Apple's intention of not wanting the crapware/logos/slow updates (read: carrier control) on the device. It was meant to be implied in my response. Who doesn't know the "why" of why Apple did it that way?

Apple has always been about the user experience. They would rather not do a phone at all, or sell directly to users than to have all the problems that everyone has with carriers.

Even WP7 tried to go that route and still got delayed by carrier updates. They were able to keep the clean interface, but I remember one Nokia or HTC device was held up forever by AT&T during the NoDo update. Finally came through about half a year later. And they didn't even push out the critical keyboard patch that was released before NoDo. So the 5 WP users had problems with their keyboards disappearing half a year after MS fixed it.

No one has the clout that Apple has now. Android has the most market share, but that's shared between a million different manufacturers. Apple is one company making one (two) phone(s). They are still the number one seller of a single phone. The gamble paid off for AT&T, but if they didn't take that chance, who knows if the iPhone would have sold as well as it did at unsubsidized price. (I personally think Apple would have rather not sold the phone at all than to sell it a competitive unsubsidized price like Google does now).

Apple and Google understand the importance of a happy customer. A happy Apple customer will stay within their ecosystem. A happy Google customer will use the web more, and use Google services more. Both of these things make these companies more money.

The OEMs don't get this and the carriers aren't the only ones to blame for the system update debacle. You think Samsung, Sony, et all would give you more than around a year of updates? They want you to just drop your dumb money from your dumb wallet and get your dumb ass down to the store and buy a new phone. And as margins get smaller and smaller on phones, we will see these OEMs add bloatware on phones the same way PC OEMs have been doing for years. Look at a Samsung phone. Get dropbox! Get a free month trial of lookout software! Try this! Buy that!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I don't blame the carriers alone for the update mess. They play a part and some more than others. Verizon

But the entire how a update works in general most people have no idea.

Even with 4.3. So many people with oh it's just a minor update.....

A minor update that all the custom rom teams out there took quite a bit of time to get a stable full featured rom out. And this on Nexus devices too.

This entire idea that the a OEM can can quickly and magically get a new 4.3 rom up and running along with their custom software is just silly.

Not excusing all the oems that have done terrible period with updates. But a lot of people simply don't get it. Oh its a minor update, where is my update htc / Samsung.

The entire beef with the carriers isn't just the updates. It's them screwing the software. And the hardware like the galaxy S and the 2. And basically every phone on Verizon it seemed and so on.

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And you would be surprised how much the die hard android lovers / iPhone haters don't know about Apple. Prime example is apple doesn't care about specs / performance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svardskampe:
I agree with most of your arguments, but I need to correct you on this though;

Not really. Android has 79% of the overall market share in mobile devices. 40% of those android devices are Samsung's. Just 13% of the overall market share is owned by iOS. (So still divided under Iphone 5S, 5, 4S, 4 at least. Already 4 models, while I'm sure there are some older ones lingering around too). Well, that 40 percent of the android devices is equal to about 32% overall market share by Samsung. Going into individual devices: 8,3% SGS3, 5,4% SGS4, 4,8% SGS2 in the android market share (taking most popular phones and same running period like the iPhones), is 18,4% android share = around 15% overall market share.

So ye. 15% Samsung top devices (SGS2, 3 and 4) vs. an OVERALL iOS share of 13% (all iOS phones, with at least 4 phones within the same sale window like the samsung phones).

On average 5% per device for Samsung, and less than 3% per device for Apple. So nope, this concludes apple users are actually more divided over phones than android users.

Sources(just a quick look up):

http://bgr.com/2013/08/14/android-smartphone-market-share-q2-2013/

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24257413

http://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-android-phones

Note here, that these are global sales figures. Americans often like to think they are the world, and hey, as Apple is popular in the US, it muuuust be everywhere. Not here, as ye, in the US apple has a market share of 40%, but not in the entire world. The US is actually quite a weird place in terms of market share, as Motorola is rather popular there (7%), while they just nearly don't sell a single phone at all -for you- internationally.

Source: http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2013/1...msung-gains-too-android-back-to-losing-share/

The google nexus line exist with an entirely different reason than to make as most profit on every individual phone as possible like Apple (as ye, they are a hardware manufacturer, they live off those phones). All google wants to do is bring out a reference model, create awareness of the android brand and push manufacturers in not dozing off in less powerful, but cheaper-to-produce devices (as that would be detrimental over the entire android line). This is shown in the fact that the nexus phones aren't even sold in a lot of countries. Just here in Europe, the biggest countries: UK, France and Germany and some. Not even anywhere like in the Netherlands or Belgium, because a campaign there is rather useless, and they don't care to "sell as much devices as possible" but to maximize their image
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Exactly.

For those reading our conversation. Updates are a three step process.

Step 1: Google releases new version.

Step 2: OEMs take the new version and make it work on their specific hardware. They then add their specific software. Camera apps, launchers and framework like Touchwiz, Sense, etc etc. Update then gets pushed to carriers.

Step 3: Carriers do their own updates/changes. Radio, carrier software, add/remove features (ie tethering).

Months later you have people wondering where there update is. Somewhere along the line someone doesn't care or is limited in resources to get it working.

Back on topic. I see you mention carriers as a fault with the hardware of S and S2. I know there were like ~6 different hardware versions of the S2. Screen size, chips, special editions like the skyrocket. Were these hardware designs requested from the carriers? Enlighten me.

Edit: I see your edit and will agree they don't care about specs. The only spec they ever promote is storage size and color. You have to go look off of the apple.com site to see the cpu speed, how much ram etc etc. But they do care about usability performance. That's why they spend so much time optimizing their software with their hardware. If its not smooth and working perceivably perfect, they keep working on it.