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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaceman860:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

*baldies
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

First you go and correct me about me forgetting to say that you'll need the .33 radio for LTE, and now this!?!? :p

Lol just playing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
whatever you say^^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davwman:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Is that better? :) I are serious;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Oh no, not at all. I wasn't offended by your post in the slightest.

I am Canadian, saying sorry is just part of our everyday lingo. Kind of a habit, sorry about that :silly:

http://cutlerish.tumblr.com/post/3573065230/canadians-say-sorry-an-awful-lot-but-they-rarely
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Ooo cool. I just read the title and I'm already hooked :D. Once I finish writing a few articles about MWC for teendroid.com (check it out!), I'll read the rest.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Is there a specific reason why the new versions of the kernel are not on der kernel anymore? Just curious
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
They were never on DER KERNEL because they are all "betas" and the ones up on the site are "stable".
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Battery drain while phone is idle on TF107 still seems a little on the high side. I will test throughout the day and report later as well, but after being off the charger for 3.5hrs my phone is at at 93% battery. About 40mins of that time was in airplane mode and the rest was just idle on my desk at work. I have only sent 1 text message today.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Thought so. I just figured the new ones may have been "stable" since so many people were using /discussing. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
The ones posted in the threads are usually just as stable (if not more stable) than the ones on the site. That's why I put the words "beta" and "stable" in quotations.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] io53:
[DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

- "On the GPU front NVIDIA claims to offer performance competitive with Apple’s iPad 4."

We can only hope that Tegra 4 will be out before the iPad 5 :p. Android needs moar PowerVR action!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6787/...ture-deep-dive-plus-tegra-4i-phoenix-hands-on
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
I have sent a couple texts this morning now and I also notice that haptic feedback seems lower than normal. I also use SwiftKey and notice a very slight lag when typing. Nothing too severe but I do notice minor lag when using the keyboard.

I am just running stock settings, only changed max frequency to 1512, everything else I left the same.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Benchmarks = yawn.

Good luck with four a15 cores in a phone. Only way it will work is if basically everything is done on the 5th core. You're going to have to massively drop the clocks on the main 4.cores. Implement something like Intel turbo boosts and so on.

A15 cores simply use way to much juice to be in a phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] syncopy:
PSA: TWRP updated to 2.4.2.0.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Spank you very much :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Changelog for the lazy people. Seems upgrade worthy :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Definitely.. So weird.. Seems just like yesterday TWRP was the new little awkward recovery kid in town. Now it's all grown up and most peoples primary recovery of choice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
I think its because of the fact that Clockwork Recovery hasn't been doing much lately in the scene. I personally switched to TWRP on my Galaxy Nexus when they revamped their recovery to version 2.0 with the new touch layout.

I felt it was way more advanced than Clockwork and I loved queuing up flashable zips. Flashing rom+kernel at once rather than flashing in CWR one-by-one and waiting for the flash to be completed was the one that pulled me over.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
It was the perfect storm of success on TWRPs part and failure on CWM part.. I remember when CWM Touch came out and that's when I started `tolerating' CWM instead of enjoying it.. The CWM touch interface was terribly inconsistent how it scaled from one device to the next and was generally a pain to use and it was rage inducing to use on a tablet. That's when I officially made TWRP my perm recovery. Their touch interface scaled perfectly between all devices.. It was a pure seamless experience no matter the screen size or if you were on a tablet or a phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] io53:
[DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

S4 Pro is somewhat based on A15.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

My choice is still 4ext. Too bad the source is closed. The developer says he'll be adding support for new devices soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Idk, I'm excited for these new phones....remember, its not android vs android, its android vs iPhone! I welcome the new allies in the war!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Sadly the average user doesn't know what Android is. They think its Galaxy vs iPhone... some of them still refer to "Droid" -___-
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Then there are those oblivious to the fact phones exist that aren't made by Apple. "What iPhone is that?"... Uh. "It's a Nexus S... By Google" *blank stare*
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
+1 I get that more than anything else. "What phone do you have, is that an iPhone?"

See on the back where it says Nexus.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] P00t:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Its been awhile since trinity released a stable kernel. Something big coming up??':)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] laba86:
hopefully with fixed vibrations ;)

NO OFFENCE :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Less than 24 hrs ago.. ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38432789
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] io53:
[DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Where is the love? It's all good man, all good..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davwman:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Not for nothing if you must have bleeding edge latest and greatest there are a few newer trinity kernels floating around a few pages back ie. Tf107. With that said tf97 is insane on 4.2.2 Roms. Seriously insane like six hours screen time four hours straight of streaming pandora, heavy use, etc.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] P00t:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

But aren't those in testing from the team cuz its not in the ops download link?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

+1....4ext is the best and it's not close. I hope Max makes one for the Nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
I'll let my post from earlier today answer this:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] polobreaka:
is it just me but it seems like 98 gives a better flat line at idle than 107?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

We're all testers. It's been out for almost a day, no negative reports. Stable enough, no..? ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
None of the TF104+ builds idle well for long periods of time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You sure? I've looked for the source and haven't found it. According to his update this past December he'll be adding the Nexus 4 eventually.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Am I sure about what? I said I hope he makes one.... I miss this since getting this phone.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

That doesn't matter one bit. It is not a15 core. Worlds of difference between it and a standard a15 core. Same as apple did with its custom chip who's name I cant recall at the moment.

Tegra 4 is a 100 pure untouched arm a15 CPU core.

Looking forward to the galaxy s4 announcement to see what type of chip is in it. It won't be a15 unless its big little. Samsung isn't dumb enough to put a all a15 chip in a phone. Even in that massive note8 phone they avoided using a a15 chip.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm a manager of target mobile and these are the things that make me wanna pull my ears out...

I heard this one this past weekend..." So wait, isn't the galaxy a droid"??

SMFH...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You said its not close. I took that as the source being open. O.o either way I've missed it also. The smooth scrolling, the nice layout. Starting to like the new features twrp is adding though... Never had so many choices before lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Sorry... I meant Its the best by a long way.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Being a technology enthusiast and selling it also is an exercise in patience. I used to work in the photography department at Circuit City (yes, back when they still hired people who knew what they were talking about). I can't tell you how many times I'd show someone a camera and just because the lens extended out would say "No No No, I don't want an SLR"..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

A douche? That would be the second time ;) lol

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Loving 107 so far. Especially the colors are so damn nice.

But... What happened to the vibration. :eek:

It is soooo weak :(

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
TF108 http://goo.gl/gjjFX

this one should help with idle battery drain, at least i get flat lines now. later on, TF108 will be moved to derkernel.com(if my link goes bad, then its at derkernel.com).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Aaah, finally a stable kernel! :p

(for the people that were concerned that none were pushed to derkernel.com) ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
What did Daniel change or better, what was broken in the first place to **** the idle drain?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'll tell you when I isolated it.

The diff of the configs is to huge to blame one thing.

But in essence I reverted to an old/good config instead of the redo off of a new defconfig.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
thx.flashing right now;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
You can specify, maybe I've hit that problem before and can help you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] r4yN:
would anyone of you mind if i shared a youtube video showing a yet-unknown device, titled "Galaxy S IV"?

I found it by chance (was actually searching for "Exynos 5 Octa" :D ) - could be fake of course or just an early prototype, but maybe some of you guys like to see my finding? :highfive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36OcSO2q4JI
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Wtf... You know it's fake when you see the navigation keys...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] r4yN:
could be a prototype, i think there has also been a prototype of the s3 that had onscreen buttons

those "dummy boxes" are used to hide the actual design
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

My phone was low on juice so I put out on charge. Started getting boot loops. Was on 98 reverted to 97.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Also goes for 108. Still weak

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you tried adjusting vibration?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
for me its like usual.no probs with vibration..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Still getting higher than normal idle drain. Sigh

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Yes I am using ondemand. But i never saw this so explicit. Thx forward the answer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Been running 43 for a few days. Working well performance wise, but Ive had a few random reboot. Will pull a log next time it occurs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Which is better for battery? Interactive or on demand

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Ondemand is the one morfic tweaks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SupWiz17:
Been loving the battery life on tf43 just like everyone else. I use interactive and get great battery life but lots of people like ondemand. I will try tf47 today I am sure this phone will be even faster with GPU oc :sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] doope:
The goal is to meet xiaomi mi2 antutu score and speed and smoothness...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CerB:
Finally back on trinity, always feels good to be home.....

Been around on other kernels, but with 43 you rule again morfic :good:

is read ahead on max best setting ? not sure what it is or does.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wurzelsepp3:
I've been testing TF47b for a few hours, and I have to say it's the best Kernel I have been running on my Nexus 4 so far.

The issue I had with TF43 was that the AOSP Browser was laggy at times, TF47b seems to have fixed this issue for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
What tweaks do you mean. Looked at morfics git and haven't seen any changes to ondemand....

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
He always recommends that, it always boots to Ondemand. On the gn he was tweaking it, whether he started here I don't know.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Since they default it to 10000/95 i left it for the time being, the usual 15000/98 should bring battery usage down a smidgen later.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
OK,thx, so you see no big problems or battery difference of i use interactive?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Oh well then, if I may..:D

(Almost touched 7, didn't want it to die though. Perfect idle, perfect screen time!!)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
What does that mi2 device get on antutu?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
you'd have to tune interactive to your liking, if you have something that you prefer that help snappy/battery let me know and we build it in

interactive is whatever they put in as well, but unlike ondemand i have no reference to comment on what they use.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
21k-24k

has higher cpu and far higher memory scores

gpu is on par with what we get right now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
Since the last 40 minutes I am a little bit confused. I always saw on every kernel a noticeable improvement on snappiness. Since I flashed 47 they seem both equal oO....WTF :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
great, means i didn't **** it up

you won't notice the gpu oc on the ui

can see it on 3D stuff, but it's tame
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
I don't use 3d stuff ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I probably could.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

On the kernel that was released less than 2 cigarettes ago..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It doesn't take that long to see.... I can see if a kennel is idling in less than 10 minutes.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ok. :thumbup:

Sorry, didn't mean to doubt your kung fu powers.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

No way...let it settle til tomorrow ?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Do you suggest to turn on mpdecision?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I just flashed harsh back and it sleeps immediately

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Then stay at harsh's kernel...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
108 sleeps immediately as well, as did 107. at issue was the amount of battery drain when its sleeping. i keep on eye on flat lines in the battery graph. trinity has always had great idle battery drain, flat lines. when i see sloped lines instead of flat lines, thats when i know the drain is more than typical for trinity. usually, itll take several hours to see if it flatlines normally. but to check real battery drain, usually you need 2-3 battery cycles to see it accurately. 10 minutes wont show you typical idling battery loss nor an accurate battery cycle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Can't believe I didn't think of that...... So helpful

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Children children, quit bickering
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
that was a wrong reply by Crimsonthunder, let me apologize for him.

anyways, i think we are talking about two different things, as you mentioned the device not going to sleep immediately..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Wait...idle drain or deep sleep? It deep sleeps just fine

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Fighting in the Trinity thread?! What is this nonsense!?!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

No apologies ever necessary....I am referring to idle drain. On other kernels I see 2-4ma drain at idle including any older Trinity kernel. The newer ones have been in the 30-50 range, including this one. 104 was the worst though at over 100.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Intense exchange of opinions, rather.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Hey Simms, do you suggest to turn on mpdecision?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm not even remotely upset... Just sarcastic :p

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---------- Post added at 05:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:40 PM ----------

mpdecision is disabled on Trinity. At least it used to be.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
edited out
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Weeell, there's the problem you see. Forum posts don't transmit that easily.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Exactly, so I'm asking if it's suggested to turn on or not
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] opethrocks:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Just curious, how do you measure idle drain in milli amp?

I remember back when morfic first started developing for the n4, one of the first things he did was disable mpdecision so we could have more control over our cpu. Because mpdecision automatically ramps up cpu freq to 1036 mhz every time you touch the screen, it can have a negative effect on battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Benrees....AOKP b4 have busy box included? I know you're in here... :p

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
busybox is most likely included. is it the most recent busybox, probably not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
MPdecision not only ramps CPU, it scales the min cpu frequency to 1026 instead of ramping. At least that was the behaviour last time I tried. Also uses a bunch of heavy routines to decide when to hotplug the CPUs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

You can turn it on or off.. It's disabled and doesn't change anything either way. If you enable it, it will just turn itself back off. I assume you are using Fauxs app, as I've never seen that on any other.

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---------- Post added at 06:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 PM ----------

I use battery monitor widget... I know it only uses estimates, but I can compare apples to apples at least. Current widget is another very good app for that.

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---------- Post added at 06:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:43 PM ----------

It is interesting how everyone always assumes the worst about people's intentions on here.... Cant tell you how many times I get terse answers back on simple comments. I'm nearly unoffendable though, so no worries.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] opethrocks:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Oh yea, I forgot it also raises min freq too, good riddance to bad rubbish
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
Stuttering...

Hey everyone. Using 108 and I'm noticing constant stuttering when scrolling through app drawers and on browsers. I believe it is caused by the CPU returning to idle while the items are still scrolling on the screen?

It's a little bit better on the interactive governor, but the CPU still ramps down too quickly. Anything I should tune in the TKT to make the CPU stay at a higher speed for longer?

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Like Simms said, included but not latest. I'm going to bed now. Goodnight peeps.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mercado79:
This is one of my biggest pet peeves. Well, it's much better nowadays than it used to be, but still. Droid is a marketing campaign for ****'s sake! I'm getting better though... I can finally read droidlife.com without vomiting in my mouth a little.

---------- Post added at 08:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:45 PM ----------

Haha... It's not uncommon for people to refer to my Nexus 7 as an iPad Mini. That even happened before the iPad Mini came out. Like it was a prototype or something. I even had a woman on the bus ask me if my Nexus S was a Windows Phone because she saw me browsing around in the Play Store (back when it had just switch to the new layout).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Aight cool....I need my sensors working so I'm gonna take a break from rasbean and use this b4 *gasp* :)

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