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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
after i flash a rom, i use root explorer to go through /system/app/ and delete whatever apps i dont want, including all the live wallpapefs and daydreams(then reboot). the video editor is one of them as well. i dont think it gets rid of the libs.

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its the same with the n5 kernel. normally, the cpu hotplugs, turn cores off and on constantly(almost non stop). trinity kermel just enables all 4 cores to be on all the time, it does not turn cores off and on constantly. but, just because all cores are on, does not mean they are always being used. just like normal, if the cpu only wants to use 2 cores, it uses just 2 cores. but instead of turning them off and on, it stays on. it might be at 0% use, but it is on. this not turning cores off and on saves time, which saves some battery. but is more responsive in general, instead of wasting turning cores on, it jumps into action asap. besides for not tirnong cores off and on constantly, the cpu itself works as it should.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] miksontije:
[MENTION=1490705]simms[/MENTION]-after i flash a rom, i use root explorer to go through /system/app/ and delete whatever apps i dont want, including all the live wallpapefs and daydreams(then reboot). the video editor is one of them as well. i dont think it gets rid of the libs.

i do it with totalcomander or with titaniumbackup,after install rom. old libs stay,they must be clean manualy. but faster way for me is to do it with 7zip before i install rom,unzip-clean files-zip. but i dont know is it ok method to do it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if it works for you, why wouldnt it be ok? i usually decide to delete or leave something different after flashes, so a zip wouldnt work for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Let me add a bit to this. It is not a case one is better than the other. It is very dependent on usage patterns. If you have periods of long inactivity ie reading text and no background activities mpd would be great. Problem begins when you have a lot of dynamic activity. Mpd tends to try to load up one of the cores first before turning another core on. Higher loads are always less efficient than moderate load spread over cores (be it due higher freq/voltage requirements). So if the driver predictions manage to anticipate loads perfectly, mpd can be awesome. But in real life it's not necessarily the case. There is always a lag (sampling included) between current CPU state and anticipated future state based on current load. This is present with or without mpd on, however if the prediction is wrong it takes longer for the load to switch over to inactive core than to active core. It also takes energy to send signal to wake up a core or put it to sleep. And it works the other way around too. If the driver predicts a load that will require more than one core it wakes up the other cores, but if the actual load is handled by a single core there is a waste of energy for the cores that were not needed. That's why you see the cores going on and off all the time. If the amplitudes between on and off stages is larger that's when mpd is being efficient. When they constantly go on and off that's when you are wasting energy sending signals to the secondary cores. Trinity gets away from that wastage. The pay off obviously is when single core is sufficient. An off core consumes a lot less energy than idle core consumes and an idle core already consumes a lot less energy than a core in use. Here is where people need to differentiate from the PC world mentality. In PC world with a 90W CPU you go from 80W idling PC to 5W standby PC and 200+W under load. In the phone world we are looking at values 100 times smaller. Then don't confuse standby with cores off. Standby is equivalent of deep sleep which is the same with or without mpd. With mpd on, when the cores are off, you still have the majority of the soc on. So at the end of the day we are looking at .5W idling soc and the cores representing small fraction of that. For simplicity reason let's call that .01-.05w most of that gets wasted waking up core on and off. So people that argue the battery efficiency of mpd on and off are wasting their time. All the stuff that I wrote, useless!

The only real benefit is responsiveness. As mentioned above, there is no lag waking cores on and off with Trinity. Mpd on tries to mitigate it with touch boost. Bumping clocks until enough information becomes available to predict future loads. But as you can deduct loads requiring more processing power and bad predictions will result in lag and touch boost waste energy.

Sorry for the log post! :D

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Make a nandroid and try it. If it works then you would have your answer. If it doesn't, you would have your answer :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
wow, this thread no matter the device never changes, it's the kernel fast like it used to on nexus s?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
As always
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
and now the part I hate, why the app never shows the latest kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
It aint available on the site/app because it is a test one.

Once it is released officially it goes to it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
because its not in the app yet :)

here it is btw, the latest http://goo.gl/AEIV0t
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
So guys, I don't have the trinity app. I use Franco's. Will that be good enough for changing this kernel's settings?

EDIT: Do I even need to change something? I was on Faux's kernel and he has this recommended settings which has to be applied manually. Does trinity have the same case?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you can use most cpu control apps. yes, can be used default as well(recommended). but it boots up at 1gb default, so you have to change the cpu speed if you want more. i only change cpu speed, disable thermal throttle, and disable fsync. thats all :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Wow, that was fast! I was just wondering why the speed was capped to 1026 mhz, thanks for clearing it up. I'll make the changes now. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
because at one point most who used trinity set it at 1026mhz for daily use. because at 1026, its still fast, faster than other kernels at 1026. but right now im using 1512 :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
Guys something strange just happened with the app, i bought it today, installed it, couldn't find the correct kernel and had to change the kernel etc..

i uninstalled it at some point and when i went to install it again it shows it as i never bought it, any ideas?

never mind, look at this and laught, i didn't even cancel lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you did find the updated kernel right? its not on the site nor app yet. its posted a few posts above yours :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
yeah rocking it right now, i will miss the swipe to wake but if it get's me more than 4 hour that faux give me it worths it :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
How do you find the battery on your 4 with all 4 cores enabled? I have had a proper look and on idle, it seems the same, the difference when in use is also, surprisingly, negligible for my use.

edit: also nice to see you back in the mako thread, [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
As well as always there is not such deffrence maybe better battery ! I donno why but it seems cores arent off but something like being off! Cause I had no deep sleep all night but only 2% battery drain!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Does anyone use setcpu anymore? I never hear it mentioned. I usually use scripts for a few things, but I always use setcpu for at least my screen off profile

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
battery with all four on is good. been getting about 4-5h sot without any tweaks for battery. and thanks :)

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its been too long since i heard pf ppl using setcpu!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Oh [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] you still using 1024 as readahead? Trinity used to boot at 256, but the latest boots at 1024.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Not PhD, but really proud of my writeup

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53591851
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yea, 1024 for me :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Professor Jonup!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
cm is based on CAF, trinity kernel is based on the android open source project(like most lernels), they arent compatible. cm dropped aosp late last year, when they did it made all aosp kernels incompatible with cm. they have to be based on CAF to work with cm.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Using the latest kernel with PA RC2, 384/1512, all cores, 128 readahead and I got 4.5 hrs SOT time yesterday over 17 hrs use (admittedly mostly on WiFi). Forgot to screenshot though, beastmode.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Imagine if it was high quality LTE, you'll still be rocking on the same charge :sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Guys there isn't any GPU option in TKT ?! Am I right?! I had the donate version of trickster but it gave me reboot every time on set on the boot so I moved to TKT and it doesn't have GPU control:( I love to change its gov. To interactive

Also is it possible to make iPhone color profile which mathkid have optimized as default I think its better than PA ! And its only a friendly request I'm satisfied with every thing of the kernel but u can test iPhone which matr1x uses is perfect
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
I use Trickster with no problems at all, don't know why you had some. TKT isn't working well on 4.4.3 and later, so avoid for the time being.

And RE: the colours. Trinity has always come with the spice melange, and I don't think that'll change. Setting your custom colours is easy enough though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Its working well for me I mean TKT ! But problem is I donno what's the proper setting of iPhone for the engine trinity uses! And didn't found anything on net! Also trickster gives me dirty shut down when I have set on boot and screen is on and I'm using when its setting the settings phone freezes and shuts down!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Ok I found a great profile ( i can say i discovered :D i played with it and then now found a good combine its very close to i phone 5 can some one tell if it wont hurt screen or any thing :D )

Grey is 16
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
My CPU speed keeps resetting. I turn it down to 1ghz.. Turn off phone. Turn on phone, launch TK Toolbox and it is at 1458.

Edit: Rebooting seems to have fixed it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RootNightmareX:
A link for latest trinity ?

BTW It's trinity for 4.4.4 stable at this state ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icu64:
Yea I saw that too, Armando really likes that can lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
I've been using it since it came out and it's not derped http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53596836

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] server3249:
Does this kernel have fast charge setting? If not, any way to add it into the kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
It does. yes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] server3249:
Ok installed. Why are the colors bluish and dark in this kernel? Is it set to represent accurate colors?

Also default CPU seems to be capped at 1Ghz. Would it eat too much battery if we set it to default 1.5Ghz?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
The colors are what is often referred to as trinity colors. It's done on purpose. They are not accurate at all. Some like it. Some don't.

It would not eat to much battery to run at stock frequency.

You can change the frequency and the colors with apps. Try it with trickster mod if you want. As of now I believe there is some issues with the trinity kernel app on 4.4.4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Change the colors via trickster to what I mentioned a page ago I find it perfect
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hp420:
Quoted just to bump the link for easier searching ;)

Thanks for the update man!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] server3249:
Tried it.. These colors also don't seem to be accurate. Seems like the settings in hellscore or stock kernel (4.4.3/4) are accurate.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Alright, I used Trinity for two days and while I was amazed with the performance I had ****ty battery life because of the suspend_backoff wakelock. I switched to Faux and it was gone. Can someone point in the in right direction to fix the wakelock? I do like trinity for it's performance and I would love to see the battery life everyone keeps talking about! Cheers!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Then make 3 first 255 and apply ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
I dont know what are u talking about cause i only can solve thing that happens to me but maybe its rom prob.! Cause its what I got and rom is velocity6/21 and Im using it since its released maybe its the app u use to change settings fault !
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its not trinity kernel itself, as i have never had such an issue. most likely its associated with whichever services and/or apps that you use.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PR0XiMA:
Thank you so much for the bump!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Sorry for asking it but will there be an other version?! Cause its perfect enough ! But Im curious if therell be an other version before android 5 :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Well, I read up on suspend_backoff. When the phone keeps alternating between awake and sleep states too frequently suspend_backoff is used to keep the phone awake until the phone state stabalizes (it stop alternating). I'm going to check my apps on trinity and see which one is causing the issue. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
Most likely it was gone when you switched to Faux because you rebooted your phone. And like [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] said, it could be services too, not just apps. Your Wi-Fi connection perhaps? I read some people have this wakelock whenever they connect to a certain Wi-Fi network.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Yeah. I found the problem. Unsurprisingly, it was a cocktail of google now and location reporting. Bummer. Got both of them disabled and everything works fine. Will let the phone go through a few charge cycles before I start messing battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Their intend is to be enjoyable, accurate color on a device that isn't in a controlled ambient lighting environment isn't possible, no matter what people tell you.

The default is enjoyable to me in the lighting conditions I find myself in typically.

Others can change it to their taste.

That's all it is, taste, unless someone carries around a colorimeter and calibrated the screen considering the ambient light conditions, it's never "accurate" so it's all just taste.

And the kernel defaults to our taste.

Hold it under a day light source directly and it might still be too yellow.

Hold it under some cheap soft white CFL and it'll be too cold ("blue"), bright white and it'll look ok.

So go and find something you enjoy, and stop hunting "accuracy" as it's all just how we perceive the settings, stop chasing accuracy as what's perceived perfect on your desk at work with mixed lighting by the window won't look right sitting in your car, if you adjust it there it won't look right in the restaurant, if you adjust it there it won't look right in the shade when you decide to sit outside instead of waiting for a table, if you adjust it there it won't look right at your girlfriend's apartment, if you adjust it there she's had enough and kicks you out, calling her old college girlfriend she's been experimenting with instead.

Don't let "accurate" color ruin your life.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Well said Sir!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] server3249:
I understand the point you are trying to make. However the settings are just way off. Screen is toooooo dark and colors like red/blue are too intense. Don't worry though it will not ruin my life. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
So if I get rid of cable I don't have to worry about this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Update rastakat lichti1901 edition

Changelog:

Android File Host Link

Happy flashing :cool:

For full festure list see the link in my signature!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shubu000:
Hey lichti, do you plan to put in the open google dialer in your version of rastakat in the future?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
The future is NOW

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
New build is Verrückt! :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
any one else has issues with digitizer not waking from deep sleep?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
I as a most time trinity user dont! Im using it from first days of kk! And no bugs yet !
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] haget83:
Sorry for asking but.. updating the op woul be much much useful

This my first time here and i spend 5 minute to find the latest kernel.. and just found latest lichti build i dindn know that exist yet :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
wont happen.

what you have to do is read the last few pages. if you cant find something, just ask. someone will help you. anyways, besidyrs lichtis build, you can find many other things. this is a trinity thread, and the op isnt getting updated. 5 minutes searching isnt long btw.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Here's a color profile I've been working on. It's very close to the LG profile.

Edit: Since not all of us have the app and there is no other way for checking color profiles. Would you guys be interested in a color profiles thread for trinity?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
personally i prefer trinity color. and a trinity color thread.. probably not. a general color thread is fine, and it exists.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I prefer you color profiles better than Trinity but I doubt it deservers separate thread. What's wrong with here? This is Trinity thread and you are more than welcome to share your profiles
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
I only meant it to be a place where we can gather all shared profiles. :)

I don't mind this thread either but I tried searching and there aren't many color profiles shared here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lol, i know, thats because many oprefer trinity colors ;)

but you are more than welcome to share here. we dont want a trinity q&a thread either, as this thread is where we keep all the trinity info instead of breaking it up into multiple threads. its much easier that way.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] when comparing photos of the same objects between the Nexus 4 and the note 2 the colors seem muted on the Nexus and much more vibrant on the note. I know this isn't a fair comparison because of amoled vs lcd, but what do you think? Let's say comparing your s4 vs your n5.

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[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] but with a little more testing the note 2 seems oversaturated, which a lot of professional reviewers have noticed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
best way to compare photographs is on the same screen, as in the screen itself can make a HUGE difference.

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anyways, i think the n4 produces very realistic colors. and if you zoom all the way in to luke the edge of a leaf, the n4 looks and feels more realistic, where the note will look more "computerized/digitized".
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Do you think custom camera apps from the playstore will improve the quality of the end photo?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
You will get access to settings to take a better picture.

If any third party app is going to be able to do all the hard work of taking all the info from the camera and crafting it into a better picture is another story. That stuff is not easy

But it will open the door for apps with a full manual mode. And make it much easier for all the various oems to produce better camera experiences. Before they had to do so much of this stuff on their own. Well not on their own, get from the SoC vendors and the ISP.

Higher framerate preview, more control over focus, iso, shutter speed etc can easily give you ability to capture a better image.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well, as soon as we start seeing some of this new code, our cams will be better, stock and other cams. but as of right now, you wont get better from using other cams. but, there are some editing apps that you can improve quality with, i use PicSay Pro.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
what do you think of Snapseed?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
snapseed is alright, i tried it a while back. but ive been using picsay pro since 2008, since before it was a photo editing app!(was a put words and funny stuff in photos app to begin with)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
The nexus 4 is the first device in the history of Android so far that has constantly gotten better with updates for sure.

Not sure how the original 7 is doing with kitkat but it had its growing pains over the years. No trim...

Look at all the progress the Android team has made with fixing and improving the "Android lag" Two years after its release this device is going to be running smoother with Android L then it did the day it launched.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I can't believe so many people doubt the Nexus 4 getting L. They whine and complain about not getting the preview and predict the worst case scenario, but it's a DEVELOPER PREVIEW for Pete's sake. All the dev preview does is showcase the design language of L nothing else. All Google needs is 1 phone and 1 tablet to do this. I'm positive the Nexus 4 will get L one way or another. It's in the same device family as the Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 also. And the chromium bug tracking leak a little bit before i/o hinted at a device with 1280x768 resolutions aka the Nexus 4. Also the new chromecast feature (screen mirroring (L exclusive)) is supported by the Nexus 4.

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And also the L proprietary device blobs for the Nexus 4 has been released too
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
everyone i know that tried L on the nexus 5 have gone back to 444 already. yea, its nice. yea, its really buggy. ive been on it twice. first time was fine, only a pulldown notification bug. second time, my storage "disappeared" :)

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in smoothness, my nexus 4 is on the exact same level as my nexus 5 :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Just assume everybody is not very bright / clueless until proven otherwise.

Not just on the Internet either. But especially on the net.