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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I still think wearables are going in the wrong direction. They need to be sensor laden, dumb devices.

Think of the server/terminal model from many many years ago. The "phone" or whatever will be the main device, all of the wearables just need to be dumb devices with sensors that connect to the "phone" and use its processing power.

Normal Joe Shmoe doesn't need yet another device that needs to be updated yearly/biyearly. Upgrade the wearables as fashion permits, not because your watch or glasses are too laggy. You should only need to worry about upgrading the new "phone", your wearables should go with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
You were right Bundy http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/09/130924-supermassive-black-hole-milky-way-space/ there's a black hole in the milky way just not the milky way itself
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hughfollett:
Hi guys! I know this is not the proper thread for this kind of question, but I think that here I can get a professional response for what I'm asking. I'm about to buy some in-ear headphones for my nexus 4, but I'm totally unexpert about this. I'm searching for a good quality while on call and listening to music. With the original n4 headphones when I'm call the other person almost can't hear me! So I'm asking some suggestions by you! By budget is 20€ max.. TIA

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Well the nexus 4 didn't come with headphones / mic for starters.

But I suggest any pair that works well with any other device will work the same on this.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Check this out http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1993428
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anirudh611:
That's right it is still very early to predict them but what is the use of these, you don't to take your phone out of the pocket and see what you wanna see? That is what the main concept of this wearables i guess. What much difference is it going to make? The same amount of energy or effort is needed to take the phone out of the pocket and look at it, I still feel that this is just waste of user money and time. Not much of a difference it is going to make.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
What I do care about is whether or not a 64bit nexus device / android will be ready for i/o.

Not wear. Not another device running any version of the krait core at a different clock.

Personally if one isn't ready I wouldn't launch anything until it is. Since Google needs to launch that before any of their OEM partners can really launch devices with armV8 chips..... Launching those without 64bit OS... Oh dear
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
If you get bored and want to waste some time + plus put android smoothness into perspective....

Watch some of the reviews / hands on of the galaxy nexus when it launched. So much OMG it's smooth!. Meanwhile your eyes now will tell you the opposite. It's actually quite horrendous to be honest.

You can go even further back and look at the original iPhone and even the 3g OMG it's smooth. Lol. Not.

Perspective and relative to what was on the market was what lead to the illusion of smoothness. Or people just wanting to tell themselves their devices were smooth.

But it's good to look back. Even many that have moved on to the 5. Used to swear their 4 was so silky smooth. And then 2 mins with the 5.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Get your point and I was one of those that at first was "wow my N4 wasn't all that smooth after all" but about a month ago i laid the two next to each other and clicked and scrolled around. The result? No freaking difference. I have either managed to screw up the N5, the N4 development has elevated N4 performance to N5 level, or it was simply a placebo. Don't get me wrong, the N5 is by far the faster phone, but you cannot tell in UI or regular use. Hence, my my N5 is capped at 1.7GHZ; that and to keep Bundy happy with the clock war;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
This year hardware will level out and software will have to optimize to show improvement year over year
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I lean toward the screwed up side myself.

Just like IMHO the nexus 4 was " screwed up" for a while. It took quite some time for any custom kernel to match stock smoothness.

And that clock war. Argggh. Don't know what's worse that or the core war. Actually yeah I do, the core war. That is just flat out stupid period.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I find the clock war more stupid right now. I'm waiting for armv8 and 64bit to hit android before I upgrade because that will be MAJOR improvement I think over the s4pro. I know some people who have under clocked to 1.7 GHz on their snapdragon 800 and experience no problems at all.... 2.5 GHz? OVERKILL
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
In a nutshell this is what the clock war is.

We have a base frequency that is far far lower than what the advertised clock is. Base meaning as this how high the clocks would be if we had a tdp to adhere to.

Anything above it is what Intel calls turbo. Or a boosted frequency that you will run at until the thermals got out of control

While on mobile this isn't in itself a had thing. You wouldn't want to limit to cpu to the speed that could in run flat out at and hit the thermal requirement. You want it to boost up when possible. Since most of workloads are bursty by nature and it's actually more power efficient.

The problem lies with just how drastic the boost frequency is. In order to get there ( especially on the last couple Samsung parts) the chip needs a lot of voltage. These chips weren't designed either in the architecture itself nor the transistors to run at such high clocks and therefore you get a ton of leakage when the clocks are the highest.

It's part of the power performance curve that really nobody would want to run at all in mobile. But since the Silicon vendors have to sell the chips the oems want. We get this flat out stupid clock war.

We couldnt get bigger and better cores for the same reason. One they cost more since the die area is bigger. Two when you make a bigger core you bring the clock speeds down. You end of with a much bigger and faster more power efficient chip that cost more and has a lower clock speed. Like the apple A7 for example. And since the end user isn't the actual consumer to the Silicon venders. We get this mess.

The only hope is Intel finally doing mobile right. But even they are subuming to market by having a quad-core on their road map. In their quest to actually get more device wins.

As much as dislike apple in general I applaud them for doing it right. It's a flat out fail that the entire SoC market sucked so bad it essentially forced apple to create their own chip These vendors missed the opportunity to secure wins in a very popular line of devices simply because they didn't have a worthy product. Essentially forcing apple to do it themselves. Complete and utter fail.

It will be interesting to see if these vendors go the same route with their custom ARM 5x based cores of if they continue to do it wrong. I lean toward doing it wrong.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Lol at 699 for a play edition HTC one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
The HTC one looks mighty fine to me

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I'm quite tempted
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] snak3ater:
Anyone here tried compiling from latest kk branch?

I am trying to compile the kernel but getting so many errors..Is it normal?

I just cloned the kernel from bitbucket & made no changes in its code...Still getting errors..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] snak3ater:
Anyone?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
If you ask [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] he might be able to help you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
[MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] you still here boss?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
He's busy. Haven't showed up in the N5 thread either. Last kernel he posted is 2 weeks old. Life happens sometimes and it gets in the way of development. :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Email is the best and has been the best way to contact him and really most folks.

Doing so on just about any xda thread is not ideal. And one that is off topic and high post counts....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Thanks guys but there's no pressing issue at the moment.... I just wanna see if he's still alive :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TigerV:
Can someone give me link of Nexus 4 kk trinity kernel link... Sorry but i try the link from op but for Nexus 4 website not give any output

Sent from my mind

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Snothy:
BOOM www.goo.gl/3ptCPZ
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Whoa, eeeasy there bro
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DREWHAMM974:
I've been running mine at 1.2 GHz lately and still, smooth as ever. Asphalt 8 runs great at that speed to. Im doing it right not just to test it out really, because I sure am myself loving these high speeds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Bundy speculation.

The Google Play edition of the new HTC will have the 4.4.3 camera on it. That is if it is released with 4.4.2 on it of course.

Just like the original play editions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Clockworkstop speculation.

Bundy is right.

What has changed in 4.4.3?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] snak3ater:
What app you all use for changing screen colors:confused:

Want to use bundi22 profile but don't know how to do it..i set the values in trickster..but colors are not the same as mentioned profile..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Nobody knows for sure. Least publicaly.

Will be all those varies bug fixes that made the news last week.

I suspect that even though there won't be a ui change at all the camera point point release. They would include any fixes to it anyways.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Speculation : we're gonna have a huge influx of Nexus 4 users soon.... I've been noticing a ton of new devs and users coming lately
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
You're welcome
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Sorry fot eta but wont we get an update?! There is no features in this kernel even no color calibration or sound mod :( i enjoyed this kernel in old days but now :( why its like this?!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Short answer: LIFE
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Ruh roo!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I'm here, probably always will be, just don't expect much from me in the near future.

I'll be probably more active when work things settle a little and i know how my wife's surgery went, or more they tell us after the surgery what it is.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Life comes first boss. Great wishes to you and your wife and great thanks to all the fun we've had here, the memories shared, the sadness comforted... Really hope life picks up for you and you finally get back on your feet. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Got ripped and forgot to follow up the ruh roo!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
As far as " features" go. What's really missing anyways?

If I am not mistaken the current / last kernel does include Francos older gamma interface. And the trinity toolbox supports it. Maybe it doesn't ( I don't run the kernel much and honestly can't recall)

The sound mods aren't needed. Since the consensus is that the Viper mod thing is ideal for the device.

To be honest when I hear the word features being tossed around. My brain changes that into useless junk buzzword crap. With a million different sys interface things wasting cpu cycles.

But seriously. After the basics like color ( which personally I don't care for but many do) hotplugging / voltages / over and under clock. Fast charge etc, features does turn into BS at some point. That point may vary depending on your wants / needs a bit but yeah
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arffrhn:
I still don't get what it means. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shubu000:
I'm playing with f2fs currently for my data partition, that can be a good added feature! :)

Although the impact is not as dramatic for the nexus 4 compared with the OG nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Best of luck pal!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
We were drunk launching a couple of Chinese lanterns into the sky
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
F Google!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Fortuunaa..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yeah i hope today the get their first 3 points

If they dont run and fight ill kick their asses

Will you go?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Pm
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sk3201:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Oh great. Thank you. Will you keep posting it here?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yes, probably. I'll make a thread for it once I compile the SlimBean base myself :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
yeah please make your own base

cant wait for the new updated google sources

allready posted them in slim bean thread^^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sk3201:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

+1 and thx

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shojus:
Just for the record... I LOVE your kernels morfic!! I actually FINALLY bought your kernel app... :good: Anyways I have had a Nexus 4 for awhile now and I switched to rasbeanjelly rom and I **was** enjoying your kernels for several days! The reason I say "was" is that I pumped her up ( my N4) a little too much I think? I have the dreaded red blinking light!! It was totally my fault though cause I was just fine but I had to try and get in the top 10 on Antutu benchmark app and well..... Let's just say I saw a red blinking light shortly after! :crying: NO, I am not going to RMA it cause it was MY fault. I will suck up the $350 and buy a new one but I learned a very good lesson today... DON'T try and beat someone else's Antutu score!! Not all phones are created equal and even though I had a "faster" binned cpu, I should have never pushed the boundaries! This is a just a post to let others know that just cause you can overclock very high does NOT mean you should! I will update if I get it fixed but I already have gone through several hours of adb HELL and I successfully pushed back the factory image so we shall see how it works when I wake up... Anybody that is new to kernels and oc/uv should read this post twice if you think you can't brick a Nexus device... I just did!! :p

(Will report back if I can figure this out?)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Red blinking means its not dead! It just had no juice left. Leave it on charger for some hours and then try to boot it up.

Dont know, but when you think you killed your device and dont want to send it to warranty, why not open the glass back and take out the battery for a few, then put it back in and try to boot it up?? Before you buy a new one there are always a few things you can try :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eyronic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

That happened to me. Exactly the same as what you did. I went to LG and they relaced the battery without questioning anything if I did anything that may void the warranty. I just told them I was playing then it died at 50%. It went better than I expected.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shojus:
Oh trust me... I am gonna try EVERYTHING until I know it's for sure dead... I read tons of info in a few threads and it seems like some of the issues are due to overclocks and some are not? I had 100% battery when I started the Antutu test and the screen just shut off and the led started blinking red... It took me awhile to even be able to get into fastboot. Some say it is a hardware defect but I am going to take it apart once I get some sleep. I won't give up until I have to. :D

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So you are saying I torched my battery maybe?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Maybe, maybe not. Try taking out the battery and putting it back in. That has been confirmed to fix if for pretty much everybody with the blinking LED.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shojus:
Ya, that was going to be my last resort but I enjoy opening devices and this one is fairly easy so hopefully it is just the battery and thanks for giving me some hope! :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eyronic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Exactly. Don't open your phone. Just lie. Tell them you're watching a movie then your phone died. After I got my phone, its back to stock and the bootloader got locked again.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iFalcon:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

That hurt my head trying to read all of that strung together.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shojus:
Aleve is good for headaches? :p

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Ya well if it's my fault I would feel bad but it is happening on several devices so maybe I will?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AppReviewBros:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Hey, I am sure you will find this thread useful:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2128392
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shojus:
Thank you! That is actually the first thread that allowed me to get into my bootloader, and flash a stock image back to my phone. Still reading, but thanks for looking out for me! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DaX05:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Personally I've stopped doing benchmarks. They mean nothing to me. I'm extremely content with my custom theme, PA rom with some pie flavor, powered by Trinity. :D

Beamed via Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Do you have a link to your theme? It looks sexy lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
A even better F Google is what happens on a clean install and the Google plus sync.

Automatically pulls in photos. Go in the app and set it up / turn it off. After that the sync is still turned on under the system settings / Google...

Got to clear data on the gallery. Just a damn mess

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And HTC as far as I am concerned is the worst run OEM in mobile.

Big or little it doesn't matter. They have no clue what they are doing over there.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Update of my rastakat version

Changelog:

Dev Host Link

Android File Host

Happy flashing :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Well it looks like the NDA on the gs5 got lifted
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I am really looking forward to seeing how the next two nexus releases play out. This is assuming Google sticks to the same release schedule as the last two years of course. A tablet device for summer, phone fall.

Want to see how / when this 64bit release is going to pan out. What platform it will be running on. Not sure if devices based on the snapdragon 4x with vanilla ARM 53s will be ready for summer and same for the 6x ARM 53 core in the fall.

Also be nice to see the reaction when a nexus device launches with the "midrange" ARM 53 cores and runs like a champ. Which it will. Then folks will be like why do I want the bigger and faster cores but also more power draining A57 cores in a phone. And why the hell should I pay a premium for them when the midrange is great.

Just maybe it will help force these stupid OEMs ( I'm talking about you HTC, moto) to start actually competing on price.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Speaking of the above.

Some Engadget article about a OPPO device shows up in my RSS feed.

In that fail of a article the author mentions that the find 7 is expensive phone. Smh.

699 HTC one, 650 iPhone, who the hell knows what for a note and on and on.

But the find 7 at 499 and 599 for the whatever they call the higher end model is expensive relative to the normal junk they cover.

Sometimes I wish I could slap people over the Internet. A unlocked premium handset that is cheaper than majority of the other devices in the market..... Expensive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
Hey guys how can i or is there any tweaks to add color calibration to this awesome kernel?!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
We're using Franco's old gamma interface so if you find values for it it'll be fine
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
I dont know were to find can u tell me an app or a passage to read and do?!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I'm really looking forward to the moto x 2 because they almost nailed it with the original. The m8 looks like a perfect device to me and an aosp gs5 would be amazing too. The LG g3 should be stellar. But what I'm really waiting for is armv8 next year. Qualcomm and Samsung just move too slow!

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Trickster mod or trinity kernel tool box, both can be found on the playstore.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
U are forgetting the oppo find 7

sent from my diabetic Nexus 4 (too much KitKats)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] T-luvR:
I have all of them but i donno what to insert as the input to have a great color !:/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
You might give a look here to find what you want http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2039607
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's not really that Samsung and Qualcomm move slow, it's apple managed to pull off a ARM v8 chip insanely fast.

Especially Samsung. Since they don't make any custom ARM cores, they have to wait for ARM to finish and give them IP for the a5x cores to begin the work of building a chip.

Qualcomm could have been faster if they decided to start work on the next krait core before ARM released the IP. Blah blah.

What apple has done is really simply amazing. They went from nothing to making the best just like that. The advantage they got ( Samsung could as well) as they don't have to make money on the Silicon. They can make big massive dies since they aren't selling that component. So they spend the money on the transistors and make it up with the profits from the device it's in.

Qualcomm for example just sells the SoC. If the die size were to get massive, the price goes up. Then you get deal with the OEMs who are their customers that don't want that. Would trim some off their margins.

Anyways I lost my train of thought cause I typed this as i walking the dog. But yeah.

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Oh and I can't leave out the apple also has control of the OS. The other SoC dudes weren't going to go crazy on getting 64bit arm ready when they know when it's coming from Google.

Microsoft doesn't have enough clout to push any SoC makers to do anything either.

Edit. Damn this app
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
I'm waiting for some premium phones that scrap the whole spec comparison **** and try to optimize everything. For battery and performance. Bigger is not better, goddammit! At least not in this case.