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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Was using HSDPA+ all day yesterday and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm only 145lb. He didn't have to. He just laid there and enjoyed my misery. I'm back from 5+month layoff/injury so everyone is taking it easy on me.:cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
117b? Have i missed something??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
I am thinking about putting my daughter in jiu jitsu. We have a Gracie Academy gym where I live and they take kids as young as 4yrs (the current age of my daughter).

I swear I have never had any martial arts training, I just love to watch the sport and have been fascinated with jiu jitsu for years. Maybe it's because I watch all the time, but she is actually pretty good already without any teaching or training.

I will just be sitting on the ground and she will jump on my back, wrap her legs around my waist and start giving me a rear naked choke. She has a good grip too, it is hard to get her off. Then while we are play fighting and I am in guard she will push my knee down with her hand and then step over with her leg to get into half guard. Sometimes she will drop down and try to give me a knee bar.

Gotta watch out for her up kicks too, shes almost got me good a couple times.

Then there is my son who is under 2 and will go around punching saying "punch, punch" I keep telling him no hitting, but kids don't listen.

I got one striker in the house and one grappler LOL. Time to put them into training I think, get all that energy out.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Yeah dude that's brutal. I'm on a 2 year hiatus myself since I got my own apartment. Damn rent takes priority:p

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Austin Ag06:
I thought 117 was draining faster on hspa than previous builds as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Haha sounds like they have a future in kicking a** :p. My dad taught my nephew how to box the other day. He's 3. I came into the house and he ran towards me, I thought for a hug, but he socked me straight in the nose! I'm ashamed to say it hurt! Little kids are dangerous man
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
Try these, my favourite for a while.

Could anyone please provide the link for the 117b?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
I agree, I always have to have my guard up. I will say to my son "Give daddy a hug" He will smile and when I come close to hug, slap in the face right out of nowhere. And of course he finds it hilarious. Or I get a headbutt, he fights dirty.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
You didn't get it. How doesn't come out well in English.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
I dont think theres a 117B but 117 is on the main site in the OP
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Mmm no, I didn't get it and I still do not understand ahahah
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
There's no b, that was a user error.. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] username8611:
Fast binned, I tried forcing dual core only and was still getting it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I've noticed for many versions of trinity if I look at cpu spy and the such that the cpu doesn't really step throughout the range of frequencies. It's spending its time in only 3 frequencies. Deep sleep, my min of 486 and my max 1024. It doesn't ever use the in between frequencies. This is how it's supposed to work?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deani77:
I'm running Xylon Trinity 117 right now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Yes this is the way "ondemond governor" works ;)

If you want that your CPU also works using the between frequencies you have to use the interactive governor.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Thanks bro

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I wonder if it wastes more battery jumping between more frequencies rather than just a few
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
There was a theory back in the gn that few steps and not too far apart (say min 10xx - 12xx - max 15xx) would achieve race to idle faster and then wake up faster when required hence better for battery. Or something along those lines.

I think we've moved away from that mindset here on the n4, probably because 4.2.2 handles the screen off better on its own. Or something along those lines. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Anyone of you carbon users have any issues with the latest nightly? Thinking of leaving the stable and trying the nightly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Nope, it's solid!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
How far are you from Peterborough? (Sorry I know you are in Canada, but I do not know where Winnipeg is.) I am partial to 10 planet jiu jitsu. Still do the gi nearly half the time (like last night). And Stew in Peterborough is the man. One of the best 10p practitioners outside of Cali. (Don't let his looks deter you, he is a sweetheart) If you are in Quebec, Louis Ho is the head instructor in there. He is way to quiet for my liking and comes from more traditional bjj - I believe he used to be Gracie student. Gracie's got a good program but they are very protective and narrow minded; do not let their students to train different variations of jits. (at least what I've heard from some Gracie kids (from Canada) that came to Rochester NY last October for Eddie Bravo seminar). If all you have is Gracie Academy go for it, by all means. I didn't start bjj until I was 27 and I didn't have any MA experience before that. I wish I discovered bjj long time ago. Also stay away from traditional martial arts. ie karate. People in those classes are mostly roll players if you know what I mean. You generally do not want to have a conversation with them and you cant cause they have nothing to say outside MA.

pm me for more info if you'd like, unless there are more people interested in this topic.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] serkanhiziroglu1998:
Hello guys carbon seems laggy for me. Why it is like that ? Maybe because of trinity's stock underpower settings. How can i revert them to stock?

Also, im not happy with screen colors. How can i revert them back to franco's or the stock lg or google one ?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
That's what ondemand governor does. Interactive, for example, will utilize more frequencies.

Sorry, I didn't see that Stefa answered that already.

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the last few nightlies have been stable. There haven't been much changed between them either.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Did you do a clean flash? Trinity uses 4 cores at 1026Mhz by default at it is not laggy at all. I'm on latest Carbon Nightly myself.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Got 4/8 installed and its running smooth, what issues you seein?

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Being a good GI guy is paramount to bring up your technical game. Its a slower game so it forces you to think. Man I miss rolling.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tyea:
I see the stutter on both, especially scrolling tapatalk. It really is minor (perhaps I got used to it), but I probably should try 113 again to compare, since I haven't used it in days. I can't really tell if 1026 scrolls smoother than 1458, but if I had to guess, I would say 1026.

Occam LGE-960, Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Absolutely! I do both. I love slow rolling GI and nogi. It creates bad habits though. I always get kill by fighters. Unless I am training for tourney. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hello247:
Anyone using aokp pub builds?

Not sure if its worth trying.

Swiftkeyed using Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
New play store announced rolling out starting today. Tried clearing Google framework to trick an update but nothing yet
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Probably best rom imho. Seriously.

I switched to faux beta just to check its low freqs an battery savings, with rasbean to check that morfic dalvik. 5 minutes and I already miss trinity smoothness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
TWRP was just updated to 2.5.0.0 go and get it :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Are we going to receive the update "OTA" even without flashing new gapps?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yes that's how they roll it out
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Great! Thanks mate ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Peterborough is about 45mins to an hour outside of Toronto. If I was to drive from Winnipeg to Toronto it would take me approximately 24hrs. I am located in the geographical center of the country, directly above North Dakota. About 4hrs away from Fargo.

We have 2 Jiu Jitsu schools here from my knowledge. Gracie Jiu Jitsu and also Gracie Humaitia (run by Rodrigo Munduruca). So not much choice in regards to style of jiu jitsu to learn.

I just wanted something for my daughter to learn mostly, not so much for myself.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Tapatalk/XDA app suck. These are not a good benchmark for smoothness. I have never had a completely smooth experience even on stock with them. You can enable force gpu rendering as it will help some, but I dont think anything will fix poorly coded apps. I have never ever seen any lag on any Trinity kernel. I must have a high tolerance for "lags" "micro lags" and whatever other terms people use. TF117 is crazy buttery smooth in any normal operation (ie not tapatalk). When the UI itself stutters thats when I would have an issue. Ive seen it on many kernel/Rom combos too. Just not with Trinity,Matr1x, or Motley.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
New play store, enjoy! Installs right over your old store

http://db.tt/WYZDfdAw
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
That is sexy!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Nice I like it thanks for sharing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
And loads faster..? Or am I wishful..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
New play store is awesome, thanks. em.....hey, anyone using .27 radio? I was under the impression it didnt work with 4.2.2 but I was wrong! It is so much better than .48 for connection, speeds, and drops. I am impressed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
That's cool, dam sight better looking than the old play store
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yea it's pretty, I like it. And your all welcome
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I saw where you are after posting. I was recommending the gyms for your daughter. You want her to go to school that stays current and innovative. By the time she is our age straight bjj will probably be obsolete and categorized as traditional MA. And I already told you to stay out of traditional martial arts; unless you believe in dragons that is. I would go to each school and see if they teach anything outside of traditional GI bjj and then make my mind. Of course you want a kids friendly environment first and foremost.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 420p:
Is it normal that it looks like this?

http://db.tt/UdPWjub6
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
No. Maybe try a reboot. There's missing info on the bottom of that screenshot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
Yes, I've been on either 27 radio or 33 for a few weeks now. I love it. I was getting crazy drops with 48 so I decided to make the switch. Just make sure you're running the right rom if you decide to run the older radios. Some asop roms do not get audio during calls when using an older radio.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scott62185:
Is there a way to know which ones work w/ the older radios, aside from just trying them?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Flashing right now, thanks :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
You don't flash it. It's an apk lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Carbon works great. .27 is better even than .33 was. Data is rock solid now. I know simms lost data connection in NY a while ago on .27 so I never considered it. Any idea what in the build itself would determine compatibility with .27? Not that I intend to leave Carbon any time soon, but I am a flash whore so it would be good to know.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Yeah sorry, I meant... installing ahahahah

Force of habits :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
Been trying to figure it out for awhile now, but no luck. I just know it works with aokp and cm10.1 roms.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I am having the same "problem" and I am reading that all italian users are having the same issue because the main page will be updated by Google (contry by country) in the next days.

All this to say that, I think it depends by the country you are in.

I don't know if this is true but this is what I am reading from an important italian blog ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 420p:
It must be. I have thrown out the old store and pushed the new to system/app and it still looks that way.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yea it may definitely be country specific app I uploaded
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I installed the app uploaded by the "italian blog" (don't know if I can mention it, it's safer not to do it I think :) ) so I think the home will be updated country by country in the next days, it does not depend on the apk for me =)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlear3:
Sunrise by my first run with 117! Loving the performance/battery ratio. Figured I'd share my colors because it was too blue for me:

Blacks: 119

Greys:0

Mids:119

Whites:70

Brightness:5

Contrast:15

Saturation:119
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Is that what y'all are seeing? I thought that was it, luv it..!! :D:p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yes you should see more lol. It works for me but I'm in the USA
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
New playstore looks more like the old android market, not a bad thing :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Mine looks the same as your's here in Canada.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I think it's great like that! Minimalistic = good
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Definitely doesn't look bad, just looks like it is missing something though. Probably because it is LOL
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Question on TF117 please: are the 4 cores online only when the screen is on or also with the screen off (and the CPU is not in deep sleep)? What happens with the screen off and the CPU is not deep sleeping? I'm interested in the effect on VOIP calls with the screen off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Same minimal look here in Italy :cool:

I am really liking it by the way lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Something keeps checking my location when screen is off! If I turn the screen on I catch the GPS icon flashing for a split second then it disappears! How can I find out what it is???

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Foursquare, Facebook, some other app that uses location..?

Btw, does this look the same for you eminem..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] BrandoHD:
You have any weather apps?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Greenify everything! :D

Sent from the Nodes of Ranvier
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Teadious:
I'm having trouble receiving notifications when my screen is off while on WiFi, any solutions or anybody with the same problems?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yes looks the same. I also have something using my GPS. Starting to wonder if it's the new play store
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
:eek::eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
I think it's a known issue:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2072930
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Teadious:
Well, I tried fixing it with push notifications fixer, but now nobody is sending me messages.:banghead:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flava69:
This is going to sound noob but where are the download links? Looked earlier buy nothing gave the links?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
http://www.derkernel.com/jb-mako.php
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Nope, don't have any apps that use location. Only thing I can think of is maps, but why would that keep checking??

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
screen goes off, device goes to sleep. no matter how many cores are set as minimum. and she sleeps well :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Maps is notorious. Go to accounts, Google, maps&latitude and see whats checked. I have all unchecked and have no issues.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hello247:
Google now maybe?

Swiftkeyed using Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Even if I have location reporting off and disable boot receiver, maps still shows up in my wake locks. Best thing to do is freeze it when you're not using it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Not always. Say what if you are on a VOIP call and the screen goes off? I wouldn't want the CPU to go to sleep then or switch to a single core @ 384.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hachoo:
Can you use BetterBatteryStats to check wakeups?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well of course if the device is being used, the cpu is being used, its not sleeping.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Using the exact same parameters as with the screen on? In other words whether the screen is on or off, it doesn't make a difference if the CPU is in use. I've seen some kernels have an option for "Max CPU freq when the screen is OFF", hence my question. Just trying to make sure that Trinity does not cap the CPU to a single core @ 384 or some other low power combination when the screen is off but the CPU is active.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Steven08:
i have noticed that you have 95% on baterry after using it for 1h.can you tell me your configuration?min cores online,gov,io?thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Does Trinity do default undervolting based on the CPU bin? Is the default undervolting cause for stability concern to anyone? Undervolting spooks me, I'd always blame it on it if my phone rebooted :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
With 117 you have 4 cores always on unless you manually disable them. Min, max

Doesn't matter. Then when the phone is in sleep don't worry about it because you lose 1% in 8hours max if you have not fed up your installation. The phone will stay on min freq when you are using it until it needs more grunt. Then max freq kicks in.

117 runs Simms settings by default.

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Yes. No.

I undervolt further with nominal chip.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fakudolan:
Yes it is factory undervolted to 750 @ 384, and 486, and it each clock is either UV'd by -50 or -100, -125, or -150.

I've no problems with it on my fast binned nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Thanks for the explanation. So there are only 2 frequencies being used, min and max? Nothing in between? Or does it step up until it gets to max?

(Sorry I just discovered Trinity last night, I'm not up to date on its history and strategies that have been tried in the past)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it steps up as needed. mostly itll stay at the lower end, until it needs more power.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
It was said that it runs simms settings? Does that mean that if I run this that I'll leave the room and come back, my phone will be on fire. I thought that simms settings could power a small city!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Nowadays we have nuclear reactors for that.

He just runs the airco into red land.. ;)

P.S. he's far far more moderate than he appears. And so are his settings: 4 cores live @ 10xx. Softie.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
!? :thumbdown:

This is with the default Ondemand governor. The other governors behave differently. We just like Ondemand the most.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Confused again :( Simms says that it steps it up gradually between min and max. You are saying with "ondemand" it doesn't, it just jumps from min to max? Thanks for clarifying!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Conservative steps through more freqs, ondemand typically jumps to the highest frequency to satisfy the load. Interactive jumps to a intermediary freq first and if load is still too high to max after that.

All react to the load on the system, just how many steps they take or which steps they jump to varies.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I'm faster binned. I don't change voltage at all. I leave it as it is by default on version 117.

Governor: on-demand

Scheduler: deadline

I only change my colors. I set mine like so:

RGB: 255

Blacks: 71

Saturation: 71

Contrast: 3

Brightness: 2

Whites: 5

And all else at ZERO.

I have great battery life and I'm a heavy user. Always texting always on H+ data speed. Once home I'm always on Wi-Fi.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
TF117 does not really run Simms22 settings by default, i omitted the disabled fsync and/or thermal throttle which i wouldn't want to force on the unsuspecting user.

The rest of the settings are good to go and do match his preference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yes, lesson learned hard way.

To do an Antutu benchmark I upped my min and max to the biggest trinity offers. Also turned off throttle and fsync. It was just about to start testing graphics and my phone RLOD'ed

No more benchmarking for me. My phone runs perfect and I no longer care to benchmark and get another RLOD lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Thank you. Fascinating.

I'm wondering if there are any established facts what takes less of a hit on battery: going from offline to online, stepping the CPU freq in small increments, jumping straight from min to max frequency, etc. Interesting current strategy in 117 to keep all cores online.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Hotplugging is usually considered "expensive" because you have to move processes around before you can yank the cpu.

faster clocks would allow a task to finish sooner, which should allow system to return to low clocks and further, low power idle states quicker, you can google the term "race to idle" on that.

While i have never found race to idle to work for me on high minimum clocks, it seems to work on the max end of it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Don't know if anyone posted this yet or not but banks has new set of gapps out with new market built in :highfive:

http://goo.im/devs/BaNkS/GApps
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Is there any way script through terminal to set minimum cores online? does it stick after reboot? I mean for that kernels that doesn't show the hotplug control in trickster. Thanks in advance.