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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Rogers is Canadian. Wouldn't have anything to do with us carriers.

I don't care about the version number of android. Or even the hardware I'm more interested in how moto / google market the device. And the features included in this new moto rom / skin android fw or whatever it's called these days.

And now I want to know about this always on junk. More like how this works. SoC going into a deep sleep and so on. How it's implemented.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
In guessing that it might have a low power 5th core that stays on
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Sorry to rehash an old topic, but how do I easily reincorporate this build prop edit everything I flash new ROM/kernel or update to ROM/kernel? Is it possible to create a zip of this build prop config and flash on top of my rastrinity updates? Sorry for stupid questions. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It was a no go. Didn't make it past 1%. Phone revived right away but my battery is fully drained for a first time after RLOD. This was the first time I had the battery above 14%.

Anyone, do you have Any ideas how to make the phone stable through Antutu? I can set my phone all the way up to 1944mhz but it will not get through Antutu even at 1890mhz. Phone does 1836@1150mv.

Morfic, if the RLOD is battery related, do you think taking the battery out and running benches while plugged in the wall would help?

Edit: weird, after modifying the build.prop as mentioned above and restarting, my battery dropped 9+%. The phone is plugged in the wall. The last RLOD really messed up my battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yes, its possible to make a flashable zip. what i do is i keep a copy of my build.prop in my storage. when need be, i just copy/paste these four lines from that build.prop in storage to the one in /system/. there are other ways to do it also.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
well, i was planning to release it later on in the day but i am going to be busy so ill release it now. here is r6 guys :) http://www.mediafire.com/?8vdzk8h8yz4ti3l
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] brianbgrp:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Bionic r6 plus t84 @1512/1512 on demand deadline.....

And second pic is from today's non bionic release at same settings...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 309041291a:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I seem to have missed something. What's Bionic r6?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Look 2 post above you...lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 309041291a:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

That's a download link. But what is it? Like, what does it do....?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Lol. Go back to page 169. That page will answer all your questions
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it makes grilled cheeses, with bacon and tomatoes :D

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just kidding. its makes the rom even faster/smoother.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
It's latest Rasbeanjelly which includs some Linaro patches, "kanged" by Jarjar :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
TF84 + Primerunner, default settings, all synced on. That's OK for me, i approve this kernel :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iFalcon:
Link doesn't work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 309041291a:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I may try out bionic rasbean then :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
working for me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Am downloading right now works, fine.

A question with a probably obvious answer: the ras bean gapps together with this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] syncopy:
Nope. Follow the usual procedure - flash ROM, gapps and install busybox later.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Primerunner ROM TF84 at 384-1242. Very happy.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I get that. :) What I mean is we use rascarlo's gapps package?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Is R6 missing the swipe to quick settings feature? Or am I just too stupid to get it working !? :p

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
like the lp 5th core on the nexus 7? i dont think that they would do that for a phone, i might be wrong though :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Saw it this afternoon...

It seems an interesting device but I think I will wait for the Nexus5 before buying a new phone; the only thing we can do is to wait and see :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
We know its a Qualcomm chip. Exact one doesn't matter. Nothing in their roadmap had / has a low power companion core type of thing. Its not that

This is one of rare times were I pondering how they could pull this off. Stuff like touch the screen to wake, swipe over a sensor to wake etc is simple to understand. Having a phone with a always on voice dictation thing.... Listen to sounds and process it all the time. At work, in your pocket, at home watch tv etc.

Really looking forward to how they managed this one. Considering this really is a always on thing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
What radio do you guys use for lte I have att BTW.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
any n4 radio thats older than the .48b radi. most use the .33 radio or the .27 radio(me). but lte wont work unless there is band 4 lte available, and att has very very limited band 4 coverage(just a few locations), so chances are that you cant get lte on att.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
I know Detroit and Ann arbor do that's why I was shocked.

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Do I have to flash the zip you supplied or does that only apply to tmo?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i dont know. you will need an att lte apn for sure though.

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this mornings breakfast of 666
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
How's the radio you use compared to the .33 ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
nearly identicle. .27 seems more solid, but .33 is solid as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] builtboosted:
Hey Simms I was wondering if you could help me with a little problem that may or may not be related to a radio issue. My data stops working when the phone deep sleeps and when I wake it it takes 5 mins for it to kick back in
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Hey Simms, I'd like to use an older radio (I'm on .54 just now and my data is really inconsistent) when I got my nexus I was on .33 and never had an issue with data drops. Could I flash the zip from The link you posted to get the .33 radio even though I won't use LTE?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Yes you can flash it without any problems .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
right.

or you can get the flashable .33 radio from the radio thread in the general section :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Thanks guys, just knew if I flashed the .33 from The general section I needed to flash the audio fix too, which I have limited time for with work ATM. I'll try it soon. Thanks again
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i think, could be wrong, that the audio fix is for phones on tmobiles network.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Well we'll find out lol

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Well we'll find out lol

Edit: OK no audio fix needed. I'm on three UK network
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
thought so :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Your so wise :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it started happening to me right before tmobile lte network went live. i was using the .33 radio for a long time, then one day the audio just stopped, the same day that they started testing lte around me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] builtboosted:
Anyone?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Grand Prix:
What rom and setup?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] builtboosted:
Latest pa ROM with trinity 131 and latest gapps
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its a known nexus 4 issue, happens to some. what causes it we dont know, yet. maybe its android software, maybe the radio software, maybe its someones personal setup, maybe its even the provider, and undervolting can cause it too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] builtboosted:
So in your opinion what can I do to help it. Will flashing the AIO zip help it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Gnome:
Try flashing thw wifi fix somewhere in the Themes or General thread, maybe that'll help.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Simms any advice?

How can i make my cpu fan go faster? Is it possible?

I need my pc to hold on for one more week! (Studying for math exam)

I know its a huge off topic but well... i like the help i get here

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
stick it in front of an ac vent, or a large high power fan :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Teadious:
Change the bottom row that says CPU fan rpm, make it a bit higher ..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
That i cant change... That row is only the current fan speeds

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Nobody can tell you from just that bios screen.

For the little info I gathered, mainly the cpu voltage. I suspect one of the earlier Intel core 2 based systems.

Those would be over clocked by taking the FSB. Which in turn effects the memory and chipset

The Northbridge would have to be able to handle the higher bus speed. The ram needs to capable to run the speed. Most don't have a issue because of using the memory multiplier. You can crank the FSB way up change the multiplier. But if you got slower / ram that was specifically matched exactly for the default system design that may be issue.

Then there is what the cpu itself can handle. And of course what you're actually board can do. Both hardware and bios wise.

Something like a speccy screen shot or a parts / components list would be needed. The bios picture is useless.

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Oh bob saget I didn't even see the word fan in the post.

I blame simms. I ventured into the general section and the stupidity is effecting my brain.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Im not trying to get my pc cool after overclocking... I cant undervolt, and my cpu frquencies are at the lowest (3.2), and in windows i turn it down to 2.8 ...

Intel pentium D 994

2gb ddr2 kingston (capable of 800mhz)

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
ive noticed you there fairly often lately, figured it was one of your "friends" or children messing with your account ;)

on a side note, how dare you mention bob saget and me in the same breath! :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
As far as cooling that pc down. Clean it.

Clean all the fans. Clean in the intake, the mesh or whatever it has. Tidy up the wires for better air flow. If that doesn't help get some new thermal paste and apply it. Just make sure to clean the old crap off first.

Even a pentium D netburst furnace shouldn't be at 70 c in the bios.

Reading those posts in that forum scrambles my brain. The cut down sim card causes extra heat for example. Smh.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i know!!! about the cut up sim card. i was going to ask in the cut down sim card causes heat thread what the physical principles are to explain that(yes, theres actually a thread for it). theres actually no evidence there besides for someone claiming it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
I applied thermal paste somedays ago (from cooler master)

And i opened my pc last week, all is clean, no dust. The only thing i cable management but the cables are on the front side, opposed to the back where my cpu fan, case fan are, there is not one cable...

If u read some older posts u will see... 6years of usage, i just think its dying but i wanted some advices so it last at least one more week (until my exams are over) :rolleyes:

Anyway thanks! :D :beer:

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.

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Bad sim cut out causes heat issues?! :what:

:banghead:

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Parts get old but don't die in the way you're describing.

When it cpu gets old unless it is actually malfunctioning and drawing massive amounts of every for some reason it doesn't matter.

It draws power and thus creates heat. Which is happening is your system isn't disappating that heat.

It can easily be a simple case of user error. Recheck your cooler and make sure it's properly secured. Also the paste needs to be applied correctly. A bad paste job or a cooler that that isn't properly seated ( or both) could very easily lead to you 70c in the bios. Your cooler could also be crap too. Not flat etc. Builders used to actually sand the plates to get better contact.

I suspect this is the case. Could also be you didn't throughly clean all the old paste off the chips heatspreader and the heat sync. But I am fairly certain that this is cause of your heat issue.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
From my way home from work, tonights Belt Parkway sunset at 60mph, in HDR. The second photo includes lower Manhattan and the One Word Trade Center building on the right side, in the background.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Oh i have one issue... 2 of the 4cpu fan pins that fixes the cooler to the motherboard are broken so i layed down my pc and its basically the weight of the fan wich is holding it in place (kind of). It may be that (since i know how to apply thermal :p )

Anyway 2mounths ago with new thermal and all the 4 pins good it was doing the same, heating up, random lag, freezes, and reboots (i mean reboots not shuts off cuz of the temp and the safety feature on the bios)

Anyway i dont have money so it will have to last one more week like this (until i finish my exams) :cool:

Since if i get to college, i kindly can ask for a pc to my parents haha

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Anything new?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Not really, no.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yeah that will do it. Without all 4 push pins properly secured your contact is ruined.

The weight of it alone on its side as you clearly know doesn't cut it. Those two things need to basically one. Stuck and pressured together with thermal pass in between. So the heat transfers off the chips heatspreader and up the coolers copper to the fins and so on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
So I finally enabled 2 step verification on my Google account. It really does give me peace of mind when saving anything important for example in Google drive out keep. Should have done this earlier for sure
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
I tried that too before. Really neat and secure but i find it not very convenient for me back then because I used to flash clean and logging into your account from from a clean wipe takes a little longer than usual with 2-step verification. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
Wow I completely missed that part. I might have to disable it again lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] heX79:
So LTE works, bit of a delay switching over after a call, but its fast.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] miguepereira77:
So can I ask u guys, what readaheadsize does and why is so different in every kernel, also why usually the default value is low, but the recommended is 2048? Thanks in advance ;)

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Might sound stupid but be sure you are mounting fans in the right position, you need to remove air from case, not to bring air inside. And also all what albundy said about thermal past and keep your case clean.

Also buying a new cpu fan since stock ones use to be crappy. A 30$ one will serve.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
Second time occurs this for me:

recharged my phone, unplugged and the battery drain in 5 hours without use 100 to 85%.

Rebooted and N4 sleeps ok....drain just 3% in 12 hours...

strange.:confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
cpu fan has to push air into the cpu not out.

and my other fan (the cas fan) is pushing air to the outside, so all is good :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
who suggests 2048 for the nexus 4?? 2048 will get the same results as 1024. above 1024 youll get the same results(2048, 4096).the default value in trinity is googles default, i personally prefer 1024kb.

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theres a badly behaving app or process im your phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] miguepereira77:
Faux...FIOPS+2048

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Actually Googles default is 128kb, but youre main point is valid. I usually keep mine at 512kb.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
You hit the jackpot now with that reply.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you misunderstood.. trinity is 128kb, i prefer 1024kb ;)

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:angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Wow, Simms! You're showing some real restraint now ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im trying to be nice, everyone knows how i feel anyways. just because i dont agree with him lots(most, lol) of the time, doesnt mean we have to fight. we all have our opinions. btw, i have faux following me on facebook now, and im following him too ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
No, you said Trinity default is Google default. Trinity boots at 256kb....enough nitpicking details from me though ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it does, you are right :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Even a blind squirrel....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Yeah that's what I meant, I remember putting my case fan backwards for years. :p

[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] what means hw_reset as reboot reason in a last_kmsg? I understand it hasn't been an app but how can I know if it was kernel's fault or keep checking what caused it? Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Guess next we'll be seeing wolves & lambs at bbq with each other..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
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it can be a derp somewhere, or it can be a thermal shutdown(battery or cpu reaching the safety temp, 60C for battery, 100C for cpu), or it can be many other things. if it is a thermal shutdown itll have the battery temp listed in the last_kmsg(not in C or F).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I think unsafe/unstable voltages can cause that too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
No errors detected

Boot info:

Last boot reason: watchdog

Any idea?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
same answer as above. a watchdog reboot is when itll derp then reboot because the derp freaked it out, or temps, or voltage, etc. it can be many things. watchdog reboot is just a generic term.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
While it's true that the stock cooler blows downward towards the cpu it's intent is not to actually blow air on it.

The coolers job to is make contact with the chips heatspreader and draw the heat off it with its pipes and onto the coolers fins. The air is blown onto the fins. Basically it's moving air across the cooling device.

Many aftermarket solutions and even some stock ones will have a taller cooler with a fan pushing the air through it towards the cases exhaust fan. On those type of cooler you can put a fan on both sides and have a push pull set up.

But this isn't always a good idea. For example older hardware like yours runs much hotter. The boards are hotter. The chipsets are hotter. And since they are either passively cooled or not cooled at all it is better to have the cpu blowing air down to get air flowing on them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
and i dont see anything strange in BBS.....grrr.....

I´ll watch in next charge.

Tks ! :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aoaleman:
Lovin' vansaber+ with Trinity!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
keep an eye on the new maps app, if you have it installed. it seems like it drains excessive nattery over the full battery cycle, if you only opened it once for a short period.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Odd, I've used out several times and haven't had any drain issues
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flaviocc:
Ok Simms, I´ll do it.

any suggestions if not the maps ??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
thats why i said to keep an eye on it, just in case. the first full battery cycle i had with the new maps installed, i opened it once for 4 minutes, then closed and killed it. it ended up draining 13% of my battery that day, hasnt happened since though.

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just keep an eye on the phones battery stats page, if you notice unusual battery drain. then look at what is draining your battery and how much %. if you know that you didnt use something that much, but its taking a lot of battery, then its probably the culprit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
on my way home, under a subway overpass. this patch must have found the sunshine. btw, the train is above ground in southern brooklyn. in hdr, with the "flash" provided with my galaxy nexus(since the flash isnt available in hdr mode).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Wow!

Really a fantastic pic mate :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
thank you!

heres a few more..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Fantastics!

Do you know what is the name of this flower? It's awesome!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
eastern purple coneflower(Echinacea purpurea) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinacea_purpurea
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Simms always impresses me with his ability to have the names quickly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
whats neat is that many of us use this herb in teas, foods, salves, etc, as this flower/plant is a very common medicinal herb :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XupModz:
Hey guys, Does anyone know if I can build android using an i3 with 4 gigs of ram?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Sure....shouldnt be an issue, it may not be the fastest though.

Make sure you have swap enabled or you may run out of Ram.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XupModz:
What version of Ubuntu would I use? Or should I use Ubuntu at all?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Im using 13.04, but I have a very powerful machine. Im not sure what the best answer is. If you know Linux you may want to choose a lighter OS like Mint or Arch....if you dont maybe Ubuntu 12.04 or possibly via Virtual Machine.