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[Ubuntu Touch General] rener78:
Kinda hard to say since it's not out yet... Could be the Sega dreamcast of the year 2000...looks promising but could turn out to be a flop... Anyways for me

the pros are... Linux distro, kinda like the 4 edges pretty neat, ubuntu one cloud and music will work here in Canada

(By the way Google wake up it's 2013 still waiting for Google Music Canada, voice too)

Cons are it's that it will probably be a unity base and gnome, 95% of the time here IOS apps comes out and version of android most of the time few weeks even months we get the Android version so I don't think compagnies will be in a rush to make an Ubuntu compatible...

That's my point of you
[Ubuntu Touch General] leventccc:
Requirements? Looks like you are not the only one who misunderstood that page.

Look here : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36400315&postcount=7
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
How'd I misunderstand u do realize I simply posted a pic from there site and offered no interpretation whatsoever so how can u interpret me posting the exact same pic from conanicals site as a misinterpretation?
[Ubuntu Touch General] leventccc:
You wrote requirements. People may think that they need at least those specs to have desktop convergence. But those specs are just what operators and oems should know before releasing a device with pre-installed ubuntu. It has almost nothing to do with the current android phones and no one needs to know those specs unless he is a operator employee. As %99 of people at here is waiting to install it on his/her device. People with non-32gb storage may think that they won't get full ubuntu experience.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
That thank was by accident anyways can u please show me where I wrote this also even if u somehow misinterpreted what i wrote as wrong it doesn't mean that's what I meant also if u go to my first post u'll see me listing both min specs and superphone specs in the form of a pic which I got from canonicals website when they listed the specs an Android phone needs to run Ubuntu so again what?!?

Phone Slow? go ------>HERE<------

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[Ubuntu Touch General] leventccc:
Here is it

Those specs are not what android phones need to run ubuntu. Those specs will be the minimum specs of "future" ubuntu pre-installed phones which will be released at 2014.

You will understand when you read the rest of that page.

Title of the page:

Operator and OEM partners

Some quotes from page:

As you can see ubuntu clearly says if you are a oem/operator you should make ubuntu phones. If you are already manufacturing android phones, manufacturing ubuntu phones isn't hard and you can also put your own bloatware on ubuntu pre-installed phones.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Slymayer:
Is this really necessary to make a huge debate about it..? :o
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Did you read your comment b4 posting first of all as your quote showed I never ever stated the minimum specs I simply posted the pic and said here are the requirements I could have very well meant the requirements that operators would need in unbuntu phones since again I never once stated anything I simply posted a pic that's not what I meant but you told me I misunderstood when I never stated what was my understanding of it

Secondly after reading your post I now understand that it's you that misunderstand you are partially correct in saying that well that the specs on the pic represent partly what a phone launching with unbuntu phone would need but u are wrong in saying that they don't represent what an android phone would need also couldn't canonical simply be telling android manufacturers what specs they would need to become unbuntu certified or make unbuntu phone flat out y would the requirements be different? killing to birds with 1 stone telling consumers what they need and manufacturers what they need at the same time also that isn't the first place I've seen that I've read on many a website where they all agree that those are the minimum and recommended specs an android phone needs

So that leaves 1 of two scenarios

1. Your correct and every1 else is wrong

2. Your misinterpreted what u saw

I hope that didn't come across as abrasive it's just that I am very adamant when I think I'm right :)

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[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
It's not necessary but am sure people wanna know what's correct

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[Ubuntu Touch General] rekrapg:
Personally, I think the argument is invalid. No-one really knows what the actual specs will be to install it on your own device.

Now for my opinion...

The specs listed are for OEM information, not for download/install. That's NOT saying that they will not also be requirements for download/install on your own device, it's just saying that that's what the website currently explains.

If those were the download/install specs, I would be assuming that despite all the hype, they are pulling our chains - one of the big features they all talk about is dock and run full OS. The devices they are running Ubuntu OS on are Samsung Galaxy Nexus devices. Guess what? They do NOT have 32GB & SDCard. If this is the only device they are *currently* developing for, how could they be developing that feature without a platform to test it on?

So, my assumption, is that the full OS version will run fine with 16GB internal only. It may be that there would be huge limitations on space after the system install, and if so may be that some people steer clear of the full version with dock support dependant on how much internal/external you have.

Just my thoughts on the subject.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Well the memory thing is different it's kinda ridiculous that an operating system would require a memory requirement besides for well the space the OS itself takes up

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[Ubuntu Touch General] rekrapg:
Again, my opinion, but I believe the memory thing is actually for not the OS, but because when you dock the device and start running the full OS, you are gonna start installing apps. How long with 16gb internal memory last you if you go crazy on the full desktop apps? install a game (0 a.d for example) at 1gb. Libre Office, 250+ mb? That's why I feel they are posting those specs for OEM's, so the end users are not limited on what they can acheieve on a full blown device when they start customising/installing. If an OEM installed the full Ubuntu OS experience on say 8gb internal only device bcause the specs listed by Ubuntu said it'll work, imagine the fall-out for the new system, on both Ubuntu and the OEM manufacturer when the end user installs wine, then runs out of space whilst Guild Wars 2 is updating? :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
K well that makes sense but I don't think well have to worry about that since 64gb will be the standard

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[Ubuntu Touch General] rekrapg:
agreed :) I just think perhaps you should update the OP to make it really clear those are the specs for OEM's, and

not necessarily

for installing the system. Lets face it, alot of people that will want to try this out will not dig into threads for information or search, they will read the OP and post "well that is screwed, I can't run the GNEX image on my GNEX".
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
I updated it

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[Ubuntu Touch General] stretched:
I'm gunna try it. I have loved linux since Caldera haha, now a dirty word in the industry. As long as the repository is well maintained and managed, this could be wildly successful.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dexster:
Nice to see this working been waiting for ever for something new sadly we wont see it on phones like mine the GS2 till a years later only thing is just like windows phone it can be all about the apps accessibility
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Am not so sure about wildy successful I love it but i dont if it'll take off or just cement its place as a third place OS

U won't have to wait that long as soon as the nexus image comes out devs can begin porting to different devices if u want Ubuntu to speed up releases and work with the community then sign the petition

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2085920

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[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Yeah sign it

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Psionfenix:
Having actually gotten the chance to play with one at CES, I can honesty say I prefer it over android. Its just crisp and smooth. I can definitely see it requiring a couple changes (if the devs don't implement them, or have yet, i'm not sure) but overall I am thoroughly impressed. It's easier to pick up and "learn" to use than iphone/android, and maybe winphone. I see a ton of potential for it.

However, the biggest issue with it, as it has been touched upon in this thread, is it will be difficult for some to swap, mostly due to the apps people have bought and are used to, and the time/money that people have invested in their current setup.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
I know it seems like that but I don't think people will be swapping at least not at the moment since you could run it on a android device they might buy a another android device or buy a unbuntu phone and still own a android device I know that's what I'm gonna do unless dual booting is a possibility

Btw at CES did you get to interact with it meaning u were doing the controlling of the OS or did a representative do it and let u watch

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Psionfenix:
At first, he held it and showed me, then we talked for awhile and then i held it in my hand and controlled it. I plan on picking up a used gnex within the next few days to get ready to play with the image when it drops. Seeing as how it can run on an android phone, I think dual booting will be a very good possibility.

Also, me and one of the guys there talked at length about the tablet they'll be announcing soon as well. :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] iflip:
Ubuntu phone os looks a little lighter on phones internal hardware. They also said when the phone is docked it will convert into the full desktop version. That could be a win for people like me who own a quad core Samsung note 2 that would like to dock and mirror it on a monitor for use as a pocketable pc. I'm a photographer and would like to have this type of accessibility for my phone and have access to the array of free high end photo editing apps available for Ubuntu. I've never used Ubuntu a day in my life but this will make me consider trying it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] nikufellow:
^Hmmm docking has its fair share of advantages but i doubt you'll be able to run - 'high end' photo editing apps with the previous gen soc in note ii :rolleyes:
[Ubuntu Touch General] rekrapg:
Definitely try it, ubuntu is pretty awesome, gaming is the only thing that keeps Windows on my second partition
[Ubuntu Touch General] chrisnk204:
The way ubuntu will cash out!!!!!!!

While ubuntu phone does look visually appealing i dont think they can pull it off. They say they can appeal to the low end users but i HIGHLY doubt it i mean the "dock to desktop" feature is as tech geek as it gets, that being said ITS THE GREATEST IDEA IVE EVER HEARD!!!! Ive been dreaming of the day i can dock my phone to a moniter of some sort and hop into a desktop os this is revolutionary! But i say ubuntu's best bet is to sell this idea and software to google and let them implement it and perfect it BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THIS WILL BE THE NEXT HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER FEATURE IN THE HIGHEND SUPERPHONE MARKET! Its genius to say the least plus i think they can make a pretty penny and still stay relevant. This if it happens will be the next step in the superphone world so much so i cant bet 100% that apple will feed into it without choice to stay relevant follow probably 2 years after google lol you know how late they can be ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] liawim:
U miss the whole point where conical(ubuntu) stand fore....
[Ubuntu Touch General] blackout23:
My thoughts after seeing Mark Shuttleworths announcment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yThfdrdFL8
[Ubuntu Touch General] chrisnk204:
It seems like your personal preference is blocking your logical thought. Think of the question at hand do you think Ubuntu can" BLOW UP AND MAKE TONS OF MONEY?" Do you really think a company can come in at this point in the smartphone industry and make a dent? MICROSOFT are the pioneers of THE SMARTPHONE ITSELF and because of their break from the industry they can barely keep up with ios and android and thats only because they are one of the wealthiest companies in the world so they have the means to fund a "comeback" that is falling short. I mean i really hope ubuntu phone does make it big but that is a LOOOOOOOOOONG SHOT so what i was suggesting was a cash out/partnership with someone who has the power to actually pull this off id prefer google because im an android fanboy and would love that "dock to desktop" feature but Microsoft is also an option and in many ways might be a more solid one because the majority still uses windows so the "mainstream" will be more comfortable taking their windows phone 8 phone docking it and jumping into just windows 8 that being said i would rather them not sell alllllll the way out lol and stick with Ubuntu software i personally love Ubuntu but their launching strategies have proven to SUCK!
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
When he said you missed his point he meant that canonical is FULLY in support of open source meaning their not in it for the money when is the last time you heard of a company offering a mobile OS to its competitors free of charge even going out of their way to include support for android kernels that can't be good for business but that's not what canonical cares about they have been doing the whole ubuntu PC thing and don't even come close to Microsoft's profit margins but they still continue because money is not their objective they simply want to make everyone's life easier so selling to Google would completely defeat the purpose of what they're trying to do

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[Ubuntu Touch General] liawim:
Tingtingin +1
[Ubuntu Touch General] chrisnk204:
Its not for money ... ... ... ... ... Come on now ppl lets not be so naive android is the pioneer of open source EVERYTHING IS FOR MONEY i say they partner with someone who already perfected the industry and progress that way. They are doing the same things they want to just with a more powerful company backing them. Google can also send ubuntu desktops into the next level if they adopt it, its a win win situation ppl
[Ubuntu Touch General] domini99:
Woow this is an awesome idea!

But will my Xperia arc s be compatible?

Sent from my sending thing..
[Ubuntu Touch General] liawim:
Android is the pioneer of opensource? I dont think so....maybe you should read the ubuntu home page.....there you will find everything what im talking about...and you will know that they will never sell it......anothee thing is that ubuntu for phone is just a small part of one big project and that is, one OS for all devices....since they started with the unity shell. This is unique and i think its great and they can pull this of.....it.s not only about the phone OS. But its about one great platform for free on al devices smootly integrated with each other..
[Ubuntu Touch General] chrisnk204:
Im not disagreeing i love the idea and think it's the future of the superphone industry but Ubuntu is going to need a lot more to be successful in achieving this jump. They can't just jump into the mobile phone world and expect to compete. I love Ubuntu and everything they do and stand for but the question was do i think they can come in and do what android did in the sense of appealing to a broad demographic and becoming a big player in the mobile world sorry but i don't see it being possible. I would really REALLY be happy if they partnered with Google that would really push android past the competition and Ubuntu will be far from hurt
[Ubuntu Touch General] A13XX:
First of all, is dual booting possible yet? Is it being developed? Also, Ubuntu phone is very nice looking, and aims to shake things up. I'm all for it! I'm quite eager to give it a shot. I love Android, but choices are good.
[Ubuntu Touch General] nikufellow:
ics kernel inherently supports dual booting !
[Ubuntu Touch General] chrisnk204:
Dual booting has been possible for a while now
[Ubuntu Touch General] acegolfer:
I have used Ubuntu for desktop for 7 years. But without "Google Experience", Ubuntu for phone is not for me.

On the other hand, I like the "Ubuntu for Android" idea; connecting the phone to a monitor/keyboard and get Ubuntu desktop UI. Google should also consider introducing "Chrome OS for Android" such that if you connect the Android phone to a monitor, you get Chrome UI.
[Ubuntu Touch General] chilenoneto:
Ubuntu Theme for any launcher?

I think that the Ubuntu gestures and general interface technology will be soon available within major android launchers soon, so ... why not to take a taste of Ubuntu without risking a entirely new OS?

WebOS anyone? ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] sterrell:
chrisnk204

i think you are really missing the fact that open source and FOSS philosophy removes the need to even speak about "competing". quite simply any and all talk about FOSS "making a dent" is really not what its about. there is a huge thriving linux community that has existed for YEARS, decades in fact without Google or Android. In fact Google's Chrome browser, is nothing more than a branded fork of the project chromium that existed for years before google ever had any notion of putting out a browser. Its not about jumping in and competing. and if you dont like linux or ubuntu (personally im not a huge fan of ubuntu linux, i run straight debian builds) then use something else. there is no competition because linux and open source isnt about competing. its about the combined skills of many individuals making better and more perfect software solutions. the beauty of open source is that if an application is missing a feature or doesnt perform the way you like it, grab the source and make it better. thats your right. open source is the most user friendly software out there, why? becuase its the users that build it for themselves. linux has and will continue to exist without a market share. how many manufactures offer linux desktop machines? like none, and yet linux and ubuntu still thrive. if the casual user doesnt want ubuntu on their phone, fine dont have it. if someone tries it and doesnt like it, demand a refund, go ahead. ubuntu for phones is simply brilliant. it will, no matter what, expand the linux user base, expand the developer base, and contribute more dollars to an already freely developed software. will i use it? if its right for me. if its not, i will likely either find a fork that is, or in the debian speak "roll my own". The ubuntu software center has been around for quite a while. it wont take much for those applications to get running on the mobile side. the question as to if ubuntu phone is an epic win or epic fail, who cares? its free.
[Ubuntu Touch General] nocoast:
Maybe... but have you tryed unity compared to other DEs? A good way to get a feel for the comparison is to compare the responsiveness of something like Debian sid or wheezy against 1204...or worse 1210 :puke: unity is cool and all but its the most bloated DE I know of for Linux by far....the least stable I've run by farr. And yeah java is notorious for being slow but Google and linaro an the v8 project etc all bring us that extra speed we need. I have a feeling its going to be an os that's fun to install over the weekend...hell if I can build it for mantaray it will be great if it actually has dpkg / .deb support. If they can get a bunch of great Ubuntu compatible packages like build essentials, git core, GCC 4.7, openjdk I'd have a good time booting into Ubuntu on my manta and compiling a rom for it...dreaming smaller git clone +meld or gedit wouldn't be all that bad...on the other hand if you want to get freaky with Linux, the terminal emulator in android can ssh-keygen and a slew of other things that make it..like Linux. Do I think Ubuntu has a shot at taking over the smartphone game? Lol maybe when pigs fly...I'm jealous of galaxy nexus users not because of Ubuntu binaries but because you guys can flash official linaro builds (uhghghhjghhhhg)

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And when I say 'like Linux' ...just to avoid the flames yeah i know were using the Linux kernel, I just think android deserves its own name. ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
Unity on the Desktop uses Compiz Window Manager.... On the phone it uses QML like with Unity-2d.. you cant compare that..
[Ubuntu Touch General] Philhy:
I think is a good think for all costumers. If you had more choice, then you can choose your favorit!

The the first videos of ubunto looks amazing and i'am very interest off :good: