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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] daxecutioner24:
For a unremovable battery the nexus 4 has horrible battery life not just to the s3 but several other phones when it comes to watching videos, talk time all the things we used. Camera is better on the s3, but the nexus beats it out when it comes to screen lighting and just more crisper color. Unfortunately we don't get the option like the international one being able to switch from standard, dynamic etcc display settings. Apart from the obvious improve processor the s3 beats it out in every other category. A casual user would do just fine but people who use their phone for music, travel a lot like myself watching videos or doing backups the n4 is not really a smart option. There's a reason why it doesn't have a $700 price tag, same thing with nexus 7. Gsm arena summarized it perfectly stating in the end it would end up as a high middle class phone.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Jms122589:
Got the nexus 4 shipping out and my fiancee is going to get the s3 my brother got the n4 and I loved it so well see I have the N10 and I love it
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] diablos991:
I do all those things and the Nexus beats the S3 in my real-life usage tests. The battery life is not much worse at all. I didn't even notice any difference until I compared my data and found that there was slightly longer life on the GS3.

Non-replaceable battery is a horrible point to make. The supposed advantage comes from keeping a spare battery charged that you can swap in when necessary. This is mitigated by the use of an external battery that you can recharge and use in much the same way.

The display is much better on the Nexus when it comes to media consumption. The sharpness and accurate color representation are fantastic.

The Camera is the only real downside compared to the GS3 in my opinion.

I guess I fail to see how a phone with a leading edge display, processor, and build quality falls in the "high middle class" range due to only having a great camera instead of a phenomenal camera.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
Guy above is right about the display... The nex4 has a much better display as far as crisp clean colors... BUT every other feature the s3 wins or ties... Which is Tue reason for the lower price tag... Fewer device sales... And constitutes a downgrade.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samoarmo:
Google is going backwards to iPhone 4

IPhone 4 Nexus 4

Glass back. √

None removable storage. √

IPS display. √

Headphone jack on top. √

Different HDMI mhl.(standard) √

And if we dig deep lot more.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ingenious247:
Except Drop tests you mean
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] diablos991:
I meant the travel, music, and videos. I'm not clumsy and haven't dropped a device in years so the cosmetic durability thing doesn't matter much to me.

If anybody here thinks the nexus is a downgrade from the S3, it's because they haven't used both for at least a week's time.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
Wrong. Agree to disagree though. I get that u want to think your device is superior... But most unbiased 3rd parties disagree. Its Ok tho... Whatever works best for you :D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] saranhai:
well then you go have fun with your limited 8 GB or 16 GB of space without any possible way of expanding it. good luck with buying a new phone too when your battery starts to go bad, while all i have to do is pop out my current battery and switch out with a new one. :D

lol also, if you're a high schooler like me, you'd know how "important" it is to own "the popular phone" that everybody has. it used to be iPhone, but now i'm seeing more and more S3's in school, which is just wonderful. i finally feel "cool" now xD
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] md1008:
I like the nexus 4 price tag! A lot of people like the pure Google experience but I know from having N7 its kinda disappointing the roms, although to no ones surprise there there are oodles of ROMs and all seem to run flawless the biggest problem is that they all really seem to be the same which almost takes the fun out of it all if your a crack flasher like me.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] klin1344:
I think that the only thing the Nexus 4 has over the S3 is its development community. AOSP ROMs will always be more optimized and polished for nexus devices because, well, its Google's code and it just works. Plus many renowned devs are picking the phone up because it is a nexus and because of its price tag. I still think that the S3 wins in features due to its external storage and removable battery. As for the processor, dual core vs quad core and adreno 225 vs adreno 320, to be honest the average user really will not notice the difference. The dual core chip inside the S3 is more than capable of powering it smoothly.

Just my 2c.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
I ordered a nexus 4 it's being shipped. But I'm still keeping my s3...will compare then sell the one I like least of the two.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] se1000:
I used both for more than a week and decided to keep the S3. Neither phone is outright better than the other. There are some things the N4 is better at, and there are other things that the S3 is better at. The N4 has a better build, will have the latest updates, has an IPS RGB screen, built in Qi and on paper a faster processor. I like the capacitive buttons on the S3, it increases the usable space on the screen, has expandable memory, and feels much thinner due to it's shape than the N4.

I disagree regarding dev support only for the fact that between the S3 variants, there is plenty of Dev support, and, with the N4 being AOSP, it limits you to an AOSP experience. As much as people knock touchwiz, there are things to like about it, things that aren't in AOSP. On the S3, you can run the ROM of your choice.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] daxecutioner24:
Haha your comical dude I get you own the phone and like to feel you made the right choice but it's just the truth dude. I already stated the screen is much better on the N4 so there's no need to make your post really long to make it seem like your making valid points. You can't tell me that the storage is not terrible, like others have stated Google is going backwards and shouldn't forget how android became the android that is today . Options is how is different from Apple being able to have multiple batteries,different sd cards, I really hope other companies don't follow suit.

---------- Post added at 11:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:49 PM ----------

Your "cool" now, I'm "cool" now all the s3 users are hella cool lol
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] bikrame:
I use nexus 7 of my friend. Really love real android. But cant give up goodness of s 3 for it. Expandable memory and removable battery means a lot for me
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Gorjira:
I too was in this debate over whether to get a GS3 or a N4. What drove me to the S3 is, to be 100% honest, the screen size. I've tried using the on-screen buttons on the N7 and AOKP ROMs, but it felt intruding. Like I really wasn't getting my monies worth. Would I like a pure android experience? Hell yeah I would!! I can't stand that f**king bubble sound on T.W... I personally haven't seen the N4 in person but I would like to. I don't know why people are getting heated bout this though... Chill, both are great phones.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] droidsung:
Tried out a friend's Nexus 4 and I don't really understand the comparison to the S3.

The S3 is of a different league altogether - Everything from the suave looks, feel, screen and camera is top notch, unlike the Nexus 4.

Somehow I felt that the Nexus 4 was slow at reading files from the SD card, but I am sure that can be fixed with a tweak or two.

In any case, my vote goes to the S3.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] md1008:
I have not messed with a real n4 but if the N4 was around in July with the price tag I think I most definitely get the N4 and skip the eip. However If they were the same specs I would no doubt go with the sgs3. For me micro SD is important. With the N4 I would be a slave to unlimited data because I need to stream music everyday. With the gs3 I can cut corners if money is tight and downgrade to the 2gb plan. Also realistically would pay for a drop box subscription if I would have gotten the N4

sent from my Samsung Gangster S III on the T-Mobile network
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
I currently own a s3 16 gb. Never have I once swapped batteries or used an sd card... So buying a nexus 4 16 gb wasn't an issue at all for me considering those two "downfalls" for a lot of people.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] klin1344:
But what will happen one to two years later when your battery can only hold ~70% of its original charge? With the s3 there is no need for this concern because you can just swap one out easily.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] futty:
I agree. I was an HTC fan until the one series didn't have removable battery or sdcard slot. So I got a sgs3 and love it. Although I'm not 100% sure why no sdcard slot is better? I like having all my pics downloads vids on my sdcard so if I got a new phone I could easilyuse the same ccard
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ticojpunk:
I can definitely see how not everyone feels compelled to have an SD card on board. For me, I use it for Nandroid backups, because they can get pretty big. I usually keep 3-5 nandroids on my card at any given time. If you don't root or use custom ROMs (and never plan to), than I can see life without the SD card as just simpler. But everyone who needs it has their own reasons for needing it.

The swappable battery is something that you don't really need until you need it. So it's easy to argue that's it's unnecessary. The manufacturer's thinking here is the battery could outlast the usefulness of the device. Maybe, maybe not. But I've yet to replace a battery on any phone I've had yet. But none have been as good as the GS3, so I plan to keep this one for for a few years.

That said, the idea of a non-removable battery was said to allow for larger batteries, and better battery life, ala Apple. But most people's reports on the N4 are reporting the opposite. It's a little troubling, and mostly because if battery life actually does decrease even further over time, there's nothing you can do about it but get a new phone.

My only long term experience with non-removable batteries is the iPod touch 4th generation. I've had it for 3 years come September 2013. And the battery life is still good, yet not quite as bulletproof as when I first got it. Not shocking or surprising in the least. Quite normal I'd say. I'm actually impressed it's held up as well as it has. So whether or not the N4 will do a similar job, no one can know until 2014 and beyond.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] stephanes:
For me I prefer the nexus 4 over the galaxy s3. It just feels better in my hand. Also the nexus 4 always get the latest version of android compare to the sgs3 who are always behind. Here in Quebec my provider give android 4.0.4 if you buy a sgs3. The asop/cyanogen rom for the sg3 is not an option for me because it have too many bugs, for example tethering and bluetooth don't work for now. And I don't care about the SD card, Google give me enough space for my need, for example I can upload up to 20000 mp3 for free to Google music.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ingenious247:
Try streaming those mp3's with no data connection though
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] daxecutioner24:
Lol that's what I'm saying. People do go out, travel, take the train whatever it is and not everyone has their data on all the time. I have about one thousand songs past 6gb automatically I'm in trouble if I use the nexus, i feel like a smartphone should be able to cater to my needs . We can always go back and forth just pick a phone but don't act like your blind or as if your ok with mediocrity.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] benefit14snake:
My S3 just passed the 'wife is pissed and threw my phone at the wall' test. Also, it gets 8-9 hours of on screen during normal usage (extended battery)

I'll keep the s3. Although I considered the nexus 4, having external storage is a must have for me. I'll wait for note 3 or gs4.

Sent from my T999 GS3 @ 2. 1GHZ
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dito33:
I think I get it. S3 has removable batteries and sd slot and N4 doesn't but N4 is more powerful and has vanilla android.

Some ppl don't care and some do depends on their needs. Am I missing something, oh some like the cam on one better than the other and the screen is gorgeous I forgot on which one I like it better.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
Lol n4 more powerful? It was a half of a second faster while browsing than the galaxy nexus... Lmao. Watch video comparisons of those two phones. More CPUs doesn't always equal more power.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ticojpunk:
Very true. In the world of computer CPUs, Dual cores often out perform Quad cores because many applications and processes simply don't use more than one core. So it becomes a 1 core to 1 core competition, without the other cores even being a factor.

Not sure how much or little this carries over to the CPU comparisons on the N4 and S3, but the statement quoted above is true in the general sense.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Lol 1-2 years? I'll be getting the s4 when it comes out....

I'm a phone freak.. Don't stay with the same phone for more than six ish months. I don't think I've ever stayed with the same phone for a year. Impossible.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dito33:
It's not about you it's about the phone the statement was.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Okay... And I won't have the phone for that long so the issue is irrelevant.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] md1008:
Yeah not everyone can afford a new phone. Its likely i won't get s4 when it comes out as I am sure it will hold its own weight. I would have also likely not gotten an s3 if I had the s2 or at least not as soon.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ticojpunk:
Same here. The S3 was a big leap for me. Before that it was all sub-4inch prepaid Androids. This is the first phone I've gotten that I have no plans to replace. I know I will at some point. Maybe the S5 or whatever comes out in 2015 or after.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] flipq88:
I'm like the only one who prefers TW over aosp. I love Tw and it's features. Aosp is just so boring to me. I never understood why people are all on vanilla android's nuts. But to each is own. Just like op preferring a nexus over the s3. Like others have stated; lack of external sd and non removable battery automatically make it a big no no for me

Sent from Flip's S3
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ticojpunk:
You're not alone.

I always went vanilla on my older phones, but it was a must as stock on low-end phones is terrible.

But Touchwiz on the GS3 is pretty amazing. I wouldn't even entertain the idea of ditching TW on the GS3.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samoarmo:
I just got N4 and the GS3 screen kills it. The speed is the same.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ticojpunk:
I think the screen comes down to taste. I happen to like the slightly exaggerated color reproduction on the GS3. I think it looks great.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samoarmo:
Yes gs3 screen is much better. F the natural colors of nexus 4. I love the unnatural:D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Jms122589:
So decided to try the nexus 4 and I'm won over. I let my fiancee use the sgs3 while I used this and I told her she could just have the sgs3. Here's my impression so far: native aosp on the nexus is the smoothest android experience I have ever had. I usually went in between stock JB TW Roms, cm 10.1 nightlys and AOKP nightlies and I was just blown away at the responsiveness of the N4. Storage wise I'm not running into much of an issue being that I live in an area that is decently covered in "4g" so all my music is with Google play music, photos are on google +/drive and all my files have always been on drop box. This leave around 13 GB for games and the occasional movie I download plus misc music I download. The screen feels much sharper and I love the touch buttons being I always used them on AOKP. The overall appearance of the phone just looks like you mean business and are slightly different because you have a nexus:rolleyes: the build quality seems good to me and feels solid, allthough reading about cracked glass backs makes me take a few more precautions, i am generally pretty carefull. this isn't to bash the sgs3 because it is a great phone with an unbelievable Dev community but i just feel at home with the nexus being i have always used CM and AOKP on all my android devices. So i just thought I'd give my 2¢
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ticojpunk:
Nice overview. What's your thoughts on the camera vs the S3? Particularly shutter lag/speed and overall quickness.

The near-zero shutter lag is the greatest reason I love the S3 so much.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Jms122589:
The sgs3 has a superior camera I feel, but I don't notice a whole ton of difference. I'm not entirely sure about shutter lag but there isn't really anything that bothers me about the N4 camera. But if the camera software is really a deal maker I would stick to the S3 because I think it wins camera software wise with its options and features but I took pictures with the S3 and the N4 side by side and really didn't notice a whole lot of difference, but I'm not all that huge into taking pictures
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] md1008:
Touched my first N4 at T-Mobile, must say I am very impressed with the look and feel of it. Had I walked in today to buy a phone it would be a very tough decision. Probably still get the gs3 though micro SD card IMO is not overrated
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samoarmo:
After samoled its very hard to use LCD,IPS or whatever. I have the nexus already couple of days and next to my s3 this thing looks like VOMIT color. I tried changing the colors and kernels nothing looks good. Its like you looking at GS 3 through fog.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Idk if I should sell my n4 or s3 lol.

I like both. Been using the n4 for the past couple days now back on my s3.

Coming from an n4 the colors on the s3 do look cartoon ish...
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monte666:
Have both love both camera has more features on s3 quality about the same. N4 keyboard kills Samsung's
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Matrix_19:
quality about the same ?? are you kidding ?

look at this (switch to 1080p) :

http://youtu.be/vSlCc8A3t7A?t=43s&hd=1
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samomamo:
I had the nexus 4 and its a downgrade' that's all I can say.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
So after using the nexus four for a couple weeks..I can say its better then the s3...so much more smooth and buttery.

Much better battery life too.

The only thing I miss from the s3 is the camera quality.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samomamo:
Yes try to convince yourself.

How is the puked screen calibration?

How's the ROMs? all the roms look the same.

The crappy speaker.

The processor throttling

I had it I know. Just admit it man.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Puked screen calibration? Sorry I don't have that issue because molesarecoming did an awesome job of fixing that.

Pa 3.0 ROM is awesome.so fast and smooth never lags etc.

Crappy speaker ? Mines just fine .

Throttling processor ? Huh

Not to mention easily getting five hours screen on time. I love it.

My s3 is just collecting dust lol I need to sell it before the s4 comes out and its value goes down.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] samomamo:
Trast me keep the s3 just in case u get bored form the N4. I was in the same situation. I used the nexus 4 for a week trying all the ROMs, and the moles color settings (we which didn't even help lost the brightness), then picked up the s3 and it felt so good in the hands. The n4 is heavy when you use it for 2-3 hours. So GS3 is so much more with all the TW and Aosp ROMs its much better. One week I use TW other Aosp AOKP cyanogenmod PA and much more. Just keep the s3 for a month.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
Uh a lot of thw roms here are the same. Choices arw wother tw based roms or aosp or clones with concoctions of aosp, cm, aokp, pa. Id bet there are fewer bugs running a phone that came with aosp than a phone that didnt? Bit thayb is jist my opinion.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] chris1seto:
Lack of uSD on the N4 was what killed it for me.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mackster248:
Lol the N4.... Heavy....? Seems light to me. You've gotta be crazy.

Its apple and oranges guys, like what you like and stop trying to convince other people why you think x is better than y.

S3 is great and offers some cool stuff with TW.

N4 is great with superior speed and quick updates.

No need for an argument.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
This ^^^ guy has an awesome youtube page... follow it
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
I never used an SD card for the s3..16 gigs is plenty.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mackster248:
Haha, I'm more of a small time YT dude, but it's awesome when some notice. Thanks buddy!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] falcons2:
Gs3 + aosp rom= super nexus :p
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] em2drvr03:
I would have to disagree with the superior speed. I have used a nexus 4 and a gs3 on a aosp ROM and IMO I don't notice a difference at all.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Super buggy nexus lol.. With a lower CPU n GPU lol
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] saranhai:
lol if you're so obsessed with the Nexus 4, why are you even here? :p
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Because I have an s3 too...lol smartass

And I can speak on both because I've actually used both for a while now and not just here and there.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
So since you own both would you say the n4 is worth it. I've owned the gnex and loved that. I've always come back to the galaxy line because of the features. Finally getting tired of the waiting game. And be tired of relying on root for updates.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
It depends... If your one that can't live without expandable storage and removable battery then your probably not gonna be satisfied.

But for me...I've never had an extra battery for my s3, never swapped batteries... So on the nexus four that isn't an issue at all...plus I get way better battery life on my nexus 4 then I did on my s3...

The other thing is the SD card ...once again I never used one for my s3...16 gbs is more then enough for me...so on the nexus four once again this isn't an issue for me.

If you can overcome those two main factors then I think its definitely worth it . 349 or 299 off contract price ...

Always up to date...they're already talking about key lime pie...
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] daxecutioner24:
You don't use it so you can go to the nexus forum. For a lot of users 16 GB is crap, i have 7 gb just on music. Who's that monkey paw dude given you unlimited thanks? Maybe you got a second account Lolll. Btw when the s4 comes out your n4 will be an afterthought haha, saying this because you seem to be the type who flocks to whatever is new haha
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
Super buggy? Lmao. I'm on 4.2.2 and don't have a single bug and 0 lag. Either way... Enjoy your phone. No need to defend it to the death.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
That's why I'll sell both my nexus four and s3 and make about 700... And buy an s4? Lol.

I haven't paid a dime for any of my phones because the first one I got for free and have been flipping them since.

And I am kind of a phone freak I like having the latest ones if they are good enough... So I'll deff be getting the s4 when it comes out.

And about the monkey paws dude I have no idea who that is this is the only account I have on xda...you can have the mods look into that if you don't believe me..

Since I have both devices I have the right to be on both forums ...

And I'm not really defending the n4 to the death because I've obviously pointed out some flaws for it where the s3 is deff better.