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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yep im running hi_speed 1.7 when using interactive. Hi_speed should match what your max CPU is set to.

Got a question for those out there.

For the time based settings in the governor controls. I assume these are measured in milliseconds?

Also [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] you had mentioned forever ago an app that gives you a real time CPU monitoring widget. What was it called?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
Temp+CPU Pro.. but it has issues on 4.3.. it mostly works.

the problem is that it stops working after a few minutes :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hoangtungst:
How can i get the lastest version of this kernel ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
go back 4 pages :p http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45365802&postcount=22554
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
what does wwz means? :confused:

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_Z_(film)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
LOL

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it maybe lol, but its the truth, where the name is from :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Took some photos around Santa Monica after work yesterday. Not with my Nexus, but I thought I'd share. Photos are large so I'm posting an Imgur link.

http://imgur.com/a/aNrzx
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I had honestly thought that you added a new letter for each commit or change. You had mentioned IIRC that the day of the release of d, that you were down to n. I figured you were base 26 counting. A-Z then AA-Z allllllllll the way to WWZ.

(Which thinking about it now, would have been a LOT of changes)

If I would have simply said the kernel out loud, I would have gotten it right away.

So what was everyone's opinion of the movie? Is it even worth my time?

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
d to n, many of the test kernels dont get posted. usually because they are real tests or are not good enough for the public. oh, btw, i havent been on irc in a loooooong time, that was [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] :)

and yea, wwz has nothing to do with anything, its just how morfic felt like naming it. its because an event relating to the movie that i happened to link morfic twice, because i forgot about the first time i linked him :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
It wasnt a typo.

If I Remember Correctly

;)

But now that I know there's an IRC channel, I have a new place to lurk.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
#trinitykernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qu3becker:
On which server?

"'Sup brah? "
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yeah, I gotta remember my nickserv pass. I remember the one for my alias, but I only use the alias on TOR, and never shall the two meet. I'll get it, there's only a couple of choices.

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz

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Freenode.

Note to T-Mobile users, you must have a registered nick to have sasl support which is required coming from a T-Mobile IP.

Also TOR users must also register their nicks to use freenode. If you care about privacy, register your nick from a public access point. Preferably from another city/state/country. And don't use the same nickname you do everywhere.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
so, hows wwz running?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] terranox:
Where is The link of later trinity kernel? -.-

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Pipusz:
2 pages back, Simms' post.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] terranox:
Because don't post in OP?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PR0XiMA:
I just overclocked my device to 2GHz and changed the hotplug settings so min cores on was 1 and max was 4. While running Vanir ROM. It is... FAST! :D

Sent from my N⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Be proud, you're the first ive heard to actually be able to run at 2ghz.

[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] so far so good. I still get reboots occasionally when running torch. I assume its ROM related though.

Usually I'm doing something in the dark and don't have time to dump a log. Thankfully the N4 boots up quickly. I'm used to waiting forever for my HD2 to boot.

Still haven't figured out the change though. All I know is its not CPU related ;)

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Because it's only a test Kernel. Only stable releases will make there way to the op/website.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Exactly. If people have a hard time finding a new kernel, just keep looking back for Simms22 posts.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Maybe morfic should write this in the OP ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
That would leave nothing to do for the rest of us.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
More time for important things :P

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Hobbies are important. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Yes that's right.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jfmac:
This. I found out my reboots also happen sometimes when using torch. But I use it right before I go to sleep so I'm lazy to make a log and the last one I posted was 6 hours after in the morning, I guess that's why it was 'shortened' as [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] mentioned. If I catch it during daytime I'll post it again, but this could very well be rom related.

Btw, latest Apollyon running great at default 1024/384. I feel absolutely no need to up the frequencies.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KiD3991:
Here's some pictures for you all :D

National flower of Malaysia.

Look at the little snail :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
releases kernels are at www.derkernel.com

test kernels ill post randomly throughout the thread. if you cant find them, just ask, someone will help you out.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
How is the source handled? Can I get access to test source? I want to make some GPU changes (533max + simple governor), and I really don't want to use one of those "other" kernels.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
I spend whole day running benchmarks trying to reach 10k in quadrant. No go.. Best was 9783

Setup:

PSX v5 & apollyon wwz

Cores min/max = 4/4

Clock CPU min/max = 1944Mhz/1944 Mhz

Clock GPU= 487 Mhz

governors: CPU/ondemand, GPU/performance

I/O scheduler= noop

F-Sync = off

60 FPS cap = off

So does anyone has any advice how to get it to 10k+ in quadrant? 2052 Mhz is a no go (instant crash).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
do 1836 instead of 1944, youll probably get better scores, with the 60fps frame cap on.

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that you would need to ask [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
nope.. 9200 points @ 1836 Mhz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
hmm..

try interactive/deadline?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Can't remember if psx had the dalvik mod or not.

Search for s4_patch_nexus4.3.zip

You'll find the revert file as well

Try i/o sio, try all 3 of deadline, hoop, and sio

You don't mention it, but thermal throttle off as well.

Make sure you test after each change.

Also try after a fresh reboot.

[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] yeah, I left a message on irc.

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
It does....its inbuilt. Ive not used the new Trinity kernel, but 10k should be very doable at 1944....Ive seen 10.2+ on various kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
Looks like 9.8k is max for me on this setup. Tried all governor/schedulers combos and scores are from 9.2-9.8k.

Need to restore backup now... F-Sync off is a bit*h :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
I am the same but get 26000 in antutu which makes me think hmm:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
Anyone know how the Moto X scores so well in 3D Benchmarks? In Anandtech, I was looking at the LG G2 review, and when I went to the GPU Performance page and looked through the benchmarks, I saw the Moto X scoring 62.7fps on 3DMark's graphic test #1 and 58.1fps on #2, beating both the S4 and HTC One google play edition by 7-9 fps. 3DMark runs at fixed resolution too. :confused: It's only 3 FPS Behind my N4 with the Adreno 320 oced to 487mhz while the Moto X's Adreno 320 is @ 400mhz. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/5 o.o
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
hartleyshc to answer your question from IRC, the source is on bitbucket like all my source that is active (inactive stuff is on the old git location)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Read the moto x review and not just look at charts. That will give you a better idea of what it is going on.

Some tidbits before you head over. The krait 300 cores in the x are running at a near constant 1.7ghz while the quad core krait 300 devices are not. On a test that is more cpu bound that will make a difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
An hour ago in my pub, irish trad session. I'd never heard a harp live before. Magic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hClyNlWbtAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
You are correct, but my question is, how is the moto X's Adreno 320 nearly performing the same as my Nexus 4 with the same GPU but o.ced to 487mhz (Ran the test all 4 cores @ 1728/1728 as well) The N4 also has slightly more bandwidth. The only reason I got slightly higher scores on the GPU tests than the Moto X was probably because of 4.3.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jdrials:
My flower :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Asuppa180:
Force GPU rendering
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davidbar93:
Is APOLLYON still the latest?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Apollyon-wwz is the latest. Apollyon-d came before that.

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] phillysmako:
Try interactive governor :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PR0XiMA:
Phew. Managed to recover my N4 from RLOD. Was playing Dead Trigger on 2GHz. Not a smart idea.

Sent from my N⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
finally off work! we were soooo damn busy today, but thata good thing :D

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well duh :p

could be much worse if turning off fsync at that speed.[.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PR0XiMA:
FSYNC was actually off. :eek:

A few of my photos went currupted. Luckily I had a backup to Copy...

Sent from my N⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well then youre lucky thst you're not reflashing the factory img(restoring nandroids have been working to fix non booting because of fsync corruption for me lately).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
As I said before, you're still one of the lucky ones. Most crash instantly at 2.0ghz. Your the first person I've heard that's actually been able to use it.

Put it this way. I get the same results as you at 1.8ghz. I can run it, but anything graphic intensive will restart on me. I can run 1.9 for about 1-5 seconds. 2.0 is an instant crash.

1.7ghz runs pretty stable for me.

Also remember, we don't have any undrvolting yet. If/when it gets added, you might actually be stable at 2.0.

Mind me asking what bin you have? And what manufacturing date your N4 is?

Info on how to check your bin:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35570139

Manufacturers date will be on the box.

Mine is 304K meaning 2013 04(April) K = Korea.

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it depeds how your governors are set up. i can set things up that ill run with the top cpu speed set to 2052. but.. it wont go up to 2052 often. and when it finally does, crash!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PR0XiMA:
No problem.

I am also running the Vanir ROM.

CPU Bin: Fast

Model: 302K

EDIT: I guess I was lucky the first time I tried 2GHz. Now it just reboots and while it reboots, the display shows some really weird and colorful artifacts.

I did manage to take a screenshot while on 2GHz, but after the reboot it disappeared! :/

Weird. FSYNC was OFF.

:)

Sent from my N⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
True. I just assume everyone tests speeds the way I do.

4/4, max/min the same speed, performance.

But I go for stability in my overclocking.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PR0XiMA:
I modified the interactive governor so the hispeed_freq was on 1.8GHz.

My CPU was set to:

Min: 1.7GHz

Max: 2GHz

Now I'm afraid to overclock my device, so I've actually undeclocked it to 1GHz and modified the hotplug settings to min cores active to 1 and max cores active to 2.

Sent from my N⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
If you use trickster mod, you can set a boot delay of like 30-60 seconds (60-120 if paranoid) or remove set on boot. Also keep fsync on.

Then you can play with the governors/speed and be pretty safe.

If you want to test stability like I do, turn thermal throttle off as well.

The default speed is 1026 with a hot plug of 2/2 for this reason.

Edit: also remember we have no undervolting yet, so we should be able to squeeze a little bit more if/when its added. This IS a test kernel. ;)

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
for me the same but either ondemand or interactive. i really dislike performance. but, sometimes i just want to be able to say that i ran a kernel that was set as 2052mhz as its top speed :p

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that makes sense, so when it actually hit 2052, it crashed. when i did something similar with a few different governors i also checked cpu spy, it never actually went uo to 2052., it never actually went up to 2052.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I agree. I only use it for stress testing. If I get a reboot I want to know its not because I clocked too high.

I've been running interactive lately although my personal favorite is smartassv2.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Run older version of psx. I had best luck with psx prior to 8/31.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KiD3991:
Was taken from a car running 100kmph. But looks awesome!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Probably a combination of some of the software optimizations they have done and the krait 300. Those cores a bit faster clock for clock than the 200 in the nexus .

3dmark also doesn't use 4 cores much except for the physics test.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
The thing is almost everything is meant to run on dual core nowadays... Quad isnt used by most apps. Plus the cores on the moto x are free to be used only for processes created by the app running and thay dont run services. Since those are loaded into the auxiliary low power cores that the x8 system on moto devices have today

Anyway at the end when multitasking u will probably have better performance on the nexus 4 cuz of the 4cores

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Not entirely true.

Quad isn't used by most apps is true.

The services part is false. The two extra "cores" do very limited things. One handles the voice stuff while the other does the sensor stuff.

No services or anything is tossed onto those "cores"
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Well u are right... But what i wanna explain is that since there is those low power cores taking care of some stuff the "real" cores arent that loaded compared to the cores on any other device.

Did i explain my point any better now? Or its anyway false what im saying? :rolleyes: (just willing to learn more and improve my english)

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting a revamped cooking recipe of Jellybeans (stock 4.3).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Better but still not fully accurate.

Simple example. If you don't use the touch less control thing the voice aware DSP core is not used at all. If you the same for the sensor one by not using the twist open the camera/ the driving thing ( can't recall the name of it) and active display it is nothing more than the SoC.

When you have your screen on and using the device as normal those specialty cores aren't doing much of anything.

In actual use the two krait cores spend much of their time at the full 1.7 GHz. Which on the krait 300 and the process that the SoC is built on is not where you want to be

The optimization moto has done is not reliant on the x8 system. The file system, davlik stuff, not sure what they're on about with Linux to arm userspace stuff but its nothing to do with the extra cores.

In IMHO launching a flagship device for flagship money at the end of august / sept with a krait 300 on the older manufacturing process is just not worth it. Its late. The s800 devices are out or are coming out now and that platform is awesome.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
LCD Display

Equally redundant and wrong
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a g bell:
Is anyone else here using the latest apollyon with psx, is anyone having there phone switch off at random?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
What are talking about LCD Display ?

Maybe because you have to use amoled to pull of the active display the way they did it was what you're hinting at.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Nope. Only had one torch caused reboot.

I will spell out the acronyms.

In In My Humble Opinion

Liquid Crystal Display Display.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nv8110:
re-flash rom and kernel with wiping cache and dalvik seems to be a good solution
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
My windows partition (or maybe the entire HD) has failed. Damn I had forgotten how much faster Ubuntu is compared to Windows. :D Now I just need to learn how to repare a windows partition that refuses to boot at all.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] UgoBoss:
I'm running JRW66Y and just falshed Apollyon-wwz but I get image lags, and yes, I've already disable HW overlays and force GPU rendering.. Has anyone got a solution please ? :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Snapdragon 800 tested by annandtech:

: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look

Battery life is awesome, looks like albundy was well informed.

PS: if someone is forced to run a chkdsk /r anytime, you should that it lasts a lot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
alien life discovered on venus..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chinthekng:
Brooklyn must be a seriously amazing place simms, because your pictures are always so nice :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Much better than when life is found on Uranus.....especially big colorful flowers ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lol, thank you :)

this one is actually from queens. but brooklyn sucks, its mostly all gray and brown. its just these tiny patches of color that always catch my attention, and im a color whore ;)

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keep Ur-anus out of the convo please ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Well I never!!! :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chinthekng:
I saw a butterfly wing on my walk home and thought I'd share (ignore my somewhat dirty hands) :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Last night looking up, the crescent moon and Venus were next to each other. Venus is very bright in the sky not long after dusk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I know the acronyms stand for.

Why LCD was brought up on the other hand....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Here's all I captured from the launch to the moon. Very bright moving across the sky for several minutes!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yup. i pointed it out to my nephew yesterday(and to my father), then explained the difference of seeing stars and seeing planets, to both of them :)

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uno mas..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Because you said "In IMHO"

In in my humble opinion.

Which is exactly like saying:

"LCD Display"

Liquid Crystal Display Display

He was using it as an example to show you what you said wrong.

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Sorry kind of ot but I want to customize Trinity to my needs. Can somebody tell me what this means? And going up and down the numbers mean?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369817 everything you need to know.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I wish I can thank you more than once
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ulver:
I just flashed the latest apollyon kernel and I can't believe how smooth it is with the default 384/1026. If I didn't know any better I don't think I would even know it was at 1026mhz max. Hopefully I see some good battery savings now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheOneChristo:
It's incredibly smooth! And only two cores to boot. Tomorrow I get to run through a "normal" day to test the battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlmntl:
Can someone please post a link for the latest apollyon build? I've searched the thread and can't find a link past apollyon-d. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
http://goo.gl/k3TZ5Z

[MENTION=2986645]albundy2010[/MENTION] was well informed because that's the same article he told us to read a few days ago. ;)

Sent from PSX v5 & Apollyon-wwz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
d isnt the latest, wwz is the latest ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I embolden the word you missed/misread. ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
do i know you :confused::confused::confused:

:p

(btw, out of thanks for now :( )
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlmntl:
Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION]

I'm gonna beat you one day.

Nah just kidding. Simms~ god
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Party's over guys... I'm back :D

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I do. Trying to figure it out myself.

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I don't care about your flower/bug pictures, but thanks for this one. What is it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
foxgloves
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
They are super pretty!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
one day..

but im no god, just a mere mortal :silly:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] UgoBoss:
Anyone please ?