yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Umm...yeah he isn't lying. I don't know what they did, but I just ran a quick test (fsync off) and got this on the first run. That cpu score is ridiculous. Haven't run antutu yet, but I'm curious to see what that scores.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
pls do not flame me for a noob Q.

For some weird reason my manta keeps crashing on morfic's kernel. After using it for 1 hour then reboots starts... I always instal after using kernel and rom wipe script...

did i do anything wrong?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Just dirty flash your Rom, gapps if needed, flash kernel.

Just want to make sure the kernel gets the correct ramdisk.

By the way, you don't need wipe scripts.

What rom are you on and what kernel did you come from?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
Using latest carbon nightly via,e from franco
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Reflash Rom and gapps.

Reboot and make sure that runs. (I had to wipe to update to latest carbon)

Flash trinity.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
lol

I am downloading 0524 now. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] clipsruck:
Damnit. I just flashed 0523 now I'm going to have to download 24 and try it.

Let me know how it is.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Seems good. :)

I had a minor problem, easily resolved. I posted it in the thread.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Haven't changed throttling any yet.

Going to be interesting seeing this thing evolve.

Nfsmw seems to be less of a problem compared to mc4.

Need to reinstall mc4, which I just nuked to have peace for installing rasbean on the manta.

I'll probably regret that soon, even if I don't have much to replay. :P
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I already did some work on the thermal driver - but my frakking source is still uploading to git at an unreasonable rate. Do you want me to share the patch .diff with you?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Git is just a tidy diff collection.

Sure, post it here?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Source just finished, but this is what I did: https://github.com/franciscofranco/manta/commit/fc538fb07206afd23a968f12d42c7cca33c47c82
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Thanks. Memory throttling.....
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Morfic, how is rasbean doing on the n10? Is he building blind or did he get the tablet yet? I posted on the n4 thread but I just got the damn thing back from Samsung today and they gave me more bleed than before and scratched my tablet. I'll be without for another week again. Can't wait to slap trinity back on there.

Is it true that the throttling is really just an algorithm of frequencies and duration? Weird that it wouldn't use a true thermal reading. Mine never even felt warm with use. The thing is a beast but it blows they didn't use thicker glass. All the bowing of the screen is what makes it get bleed so easily. No problems with your tab?

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I believe he is building blind right now. I checked his git and saw manta so guess tonight I'll do a repo sync and have rasbean on all of my nexus devices with Trinity :D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Ras on the nexus 10 will be the best addition to the device by far.

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
If he doesn't get to it, i can share "build 0" it's what is on my n10.

I'm not sure if it was because of rasbean or alpha 9, but mc4 was actually playable last night, instead of going slow mo when shooting granny style.

Alpha 10 has the thermal management changes Franco offered, and from the myriad of random patches Google put out, the one where they raise mem clock at 400mhz to the same as the two higher gpu freqs stuck out, so I added that, memory bandwidth is what GPUs need.

Need to check if anyone grabbed alpha10....
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
You could share it. But I'm building it as of now as I type this. I love open source.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bigxie:
Alpha10 has been running great so far. Just finished a 30 minute session of NFS MW and noticed the top of the tablet was significantly less warm to the touch than before. Did you undervolt the GPU (thought I read that you were considering it)?

Looks like I was at 1GHz for the majority of the game play, but the throttling was not noticeable, probably due to the memory throttling fixes.

Anyways, that's my gaming experience so far. Keep up the good work!

P.S.I beat the game ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
I only undervolted the gpu on the lower steps thus far, a global -50mV attempt prior led to a spark landing freeze frame, so i am leaving the extreme stuff for later, bottom for frequency steps -25Mv, not more and looked into rearranging the stepping.

I was able to play MC4 with a lot less slideshow moments on Alpha9 that way, have yet to play with Alpha10.

Thanks for the feedback, you are one of 25! :P
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
http://www.derkernel.com/simms/rasbeanjelly_rascarlo_manta_ota_2013-01-15.zip

While it's fun to build your own, i would prefer my buddy Carlo only gets feedback from his builds, to keep his blind building manageable.

And here I'm going off on a completely different angle:

People asked if he builds blind or if he finally got one, no, there is no simple path to Manta for him.

Sometimes i wish every *5th* tuna, mako, grouper and now manta owner using his rom had $1 for him so his wife would ask why he doesn't buy more Nexii with that ;)

He would never ask for a dime yet is so willing to add yet another device he doesn't have. He'll probably even end up hating this post while at the same time silently agreeing with the above.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Man I would donate but too bad I'm too young to own credit cards and stuff :( I love his work. And yours of course lol. Thanks
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] 12paq:
Set up the donation thread and links. Or point me to them. I'm in. Damn straight.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Not a donation thread to get something, just paypal thank yous for what he has already done, what it is worth to those people who can.

Carlo (@rascarlo)'s profile

It's already all in there.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
You know what i see as a huge problem compared to say N4 or SGS3?

The tiny amount of free ram.

Exiting MC4 it's down to just under 200MB, while on N4 we have 1000MB more than that....

And our reserved memory is only in the 384MB range, yet on homescreen we lack 700-1000MB of free ram.

N4 does have 219 more MB on linux side.

So something is being a major pig.

One goal should be to find and then spear the pig.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] BigJArm:
I have noticed that ram usage is really high all the time as well. I thought it was strange since we have 2 gigs and no bloatware.

Edit: if you tell me what to use I'm happy to help research it.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bigxie:
I think there amount of RAM being used by apps is higher in the N10 due to the higher resolution, perhaps more assets need to be loaded.

For instance, I can see the play store taking up over 80MB of RAM in my N10 vs 30 on the N4. Falcon taking over 100 on the N10 vs 40 on the N4, and so on and so forth.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Remember that the GPU also reserves a chunk of memory for itself as well, the Mali GPU does not have its own dedicated vram. Obviously shouldnt take up like a gig or anything, but I think it does reserve around 512MB.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bschrib:
Brees, thanks for posting these settings they've made a huge difference. I added these to trickstermod but the only one it doesn't have is front_merges. It has nomerges which is set to 0. Is that the same thing or will I need to add the front_merges via init.d?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Just ran antutu, and yeah....this is definitely the fastest ROM I've tried so far...I'm amazed lol.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I get those sorts of scores with RBJ and AOKP Pub too so I don't think it is unusual really.

edit

I just remembered this one. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40759805&postcount=211
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Isn't RBJ CM based? I don't really like CM ROMs all that much, so I haven't tried it. AOKP Pub I get close to those scores, or higher if I use KManta and over clock the GPU to 720ghz, or over clock the CPU. But that's the highest "out of the box" score I've ever got without any tweaks, scripts, governor adjustments, etc on a ROM.

But the quadrant scores I get on carbon are ludicrous...I didn't get a chance to screenshot it, but I just l scored an 8700 earlier...it's like they put NoS in the ROM or something.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Fair enough on your points, possibly my GPU was OC'd on that (CPU was stock tho)...but no, RBJ aint CM based, it is AOSP based. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
Brees thanks so much for the settings. But if i just change it in trickster app without creating the init.d is that possible?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
If you can add them in Trickster then use it. I prefer adding manually but if you are already using an app that can apply them that is fine.

bschrib - That could be left over from Deadline tweaks so if its not there don't worry about it. ;) Doesn't make much of a difference anyway.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] TSF14:
Are you guys using the 1.7 RC of Carbon, or the nighties?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] clipsruck:
They were talking about the latest nightlies. 0523 and 0524. I'm running today's and I must say this sh*t is fast.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] TSF14:
THanks! :good:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] NYCHitman1:
Good grief. You are right. This sh!t flies.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
When you guys say that sh*t is fast do you mean UI and benches, or actual real world performance like games are actually faster\higher performance??
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iamikon:
Well i haven't installed it on the n10 yet but did on the s3 and it has been really ui smooth even way underclocked noticeably smoother than cm or aokp
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] ThugosaurusRex:
Real world/ UI for me, I don't benchmark.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] clipsruck:
I'm saying ui real-world. There are some ridiculous benchmarks a few posts back though.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
To me, the feel of it UI-wise is no faster than the usual suspects, RBJ + AOKP Pub (dunno about games).....and we have Sabermod now too which needs to be looked at. :)

It's a good ROM though and I am very happy to be getting more good ROMs for the device.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iamikon:
I did very much like rassaber. I'll install the new carbon on my n10 later and see what's what.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
I agree, its a double edge sword...its so many good ROMs out now, it's making me a flashaholic. When I pretty much usually find one solid ROM on all my devices and stick with it. Nowadays though, its hard for me to stay on a ROM more than two or three days at a time without trying a new one since its so many great options available now! Love it and hate it since there really is no clear cut "best" ROM lol.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
This is turning into a rom discussion. I'll add to it lol. Just installed the latest nightly carbon and its damn nice with the customizations and smooth with Morfics latest kernel.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
following the post i made regarding random reboots. I tried to wipe everything go back to stock, re-root and reinstall TWRP. then wipe data, cache, dalvik. install the rom.zip -> install gapps -> wipe cache/dalvik. set up the tablet. went without reboot for 20 mins. then i flash tx36 and i got reboot in 10-15 mins. I am not sure if im doing anything wrong or is there a thing that for whatever reason my tablet just cannot run trinity (which i really wanted to... ytd i tried to bare with the 3 times reboot and it went well for 8 hours+ then start to reboot 2 times again... when i was using it is really smooth)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
If you could flash trinity, and after a reboot, copy /proc/last_kmsg to /sdcard, rename it (add .txt), and email it to me,I might have a chance of knowing what makes it reboot
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
Just did... Reflashed kernel only came from Franco. For some reason after posting here it is good so far no reboots yet. I hope it remains. Will do if there is any reboot arises... You are really kind thumbs up!!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0Bz4UDpdAsdiMUVQ5VzhMM0V5UkE/edit

edit: I'm also attaching the three last_kmsg file I have. With both carbon and sabermod ROM.

I have sent my last kmsg to your email. Sorry for the brief email. I needed to type it before the tablet reboot again.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] LOVE ME PLEASE:
Does this kernel change the boot animation and is this kernel overclocked by default? Thanks guys.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Syk69:
Nope doesn't change boot animation. GPU max clock set to higher 620mhz.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iamikon:
Read the op. Thanks. But the answer to both is no.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] LOVE ME PLEASE:
I read the op sir, but Trinity kernel used to change the boot animation and is well known for OC...thanks though.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] lvnatic:
I got random reboots every nigtht, while charging. This is latest ksmg

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B99FhJMZt2l5MW9PZkw5YnhmSTA/edit?usp=docslist_api
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
I used to have the exact same issue, overnight charge reboots. I found out the problem was my Seeder app which wasn't letting my tablet sleep. If you have some sort of entropy boosting app/script like Seeder, try deleting it and see if the problem continues. That's what fixed it for me at least.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Yea, on the N7 it still changes the boot-animation. It doesn't have a default OC, though I think it used to?

Anyhoo, TX36 is great. Just thought I would report. :D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] styckx:
Wrong thread
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
There is no cpu oc at all yet.

I had no time to add it before a long trip and on that trip didn't feel the need to oc cpu once, so it wasn't added.

I did feel the need to oc the gpu, so it is.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Yea, I don't think CPU oc is needed either.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] lvnatic:
Most people actually under clock it.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] shadowblade330:
haha yea i usually underclock mine
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I definitely UC if I am doing something intensive like playing a game or watching a movie.

If I am just browsing about then I might leave it at stock for that extra snappiness. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
That's the thing, playing a movie is not intensive, 600 MHz is lowest I can stand, to pick a movie, but the run time difference is huge.

For some reason it scales to 1700, when it isn't even needed, killing battery needlessly.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
Hmm it just doesnt feel as snappy without the chipset oc. Still very nice and stable though.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] beekay201:
I'm sorry I don't have logs to show for it, but it was not possible to grab them: adb was unavailable and last_kmsg did not appear (?) after the hard reboot (long press power).

Crashed on 2 situations so far:

- While on G+ (just trying to add a comment): touchscreen unresponsive

- While gaming (Can Knockdown 3): total lockup, sound/in game music still playing, touchscreen unresponsive

ROM: CM (build date 20130526)

Kernel: TX36-GPU620-4.2.2-ANY

UC: None

App List: (I'll pastebin the list tomorrow)

Extra: WiFi was ON; Device did not seem to be hotter than normal; rebooted just fine no bootloop, nothing out of the ordinary there;
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
It's most likely the cm nightly. Nightlies are just beta tests to debug new features and code. Trinity is the most stable kernel I have ever used. Personally when I have an issue his kernel is the last thing I consider to be the problem.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] beekay201:
It could be.. Although when I install a new nightly, I do make sure it's running fine with my normal apps and games, before running custom kernels. Still, it could indeed be the ROM side. And to make my final point about nightlies, while I agree they are userdebug type builds with the latest and greatest of my goto custom-ROM since I've used Android, when running a unsupported combo, I can't approach CM team with the logs or no logs at all and report the situation.

That said, I've also ran Trinity on my maguro and it hasn't given me issues. My manta didn't ever reboot with CM kernel. I'll conduct further testing.

Sent from my Nexus
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
I happen to be using cm as well but I like to have some aokp options as well so I use carbon, just so happens they are Nightlies too. ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Like Brees, I really doubt the kernel is at fault. Lots of people using it with no problems.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Lim Wee Huat:
Nope.. Not giving me any problems at all.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Not all tablets are created equal, some might just nibble on the kernel and then spit it out.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] dodo99x:
Still getting slow downs/reboots on TX36 on latest RasBean. Stock settings on TKT. Seems to happen shortly after sleeping for a long while, usually within an hour from waking up. Most of the time I'll be using chrome, tapatalk or FB.

Last kemsg

http://db.tt/sm40PJcV
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] starkilling:
Most of those are probably because of the memory leak in surfaceflinger.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] theultimatev:
TX36 is running extremely strong on PA JUN06 build. Haven't been more happy with a rom & kernel combo on this manta. I'm a happy customer :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Can someone not on rasbean check if bejeweled 2 shows up in market for them?

Thanks.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Syk69:
Only see bejeweled blitz. No bejeweled 2.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Thanks.

Then I hope EA reads their damn comments if they have no support email. ;P

That's the last thing my wife can do with her iPad I can't do with my Ten. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rlattin24:
It's not available from the playstore but you can easily install the amazon app store and get it from there
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] cien12:
Is it possible to compile and add the nls_utf8.ko and md4.ko module for full cifs support?

Cifs Mount principle works great with your kernel, but I need the charset utf8 option for supporting special characters.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
MD4 seems to be selected by cifs, but I'm adding utf-8, it'll be in next build.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] cien12:
Thanky you very much!

You are great.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
http://www.derkernel.com/simms/TX38-4.2.2-ANY.zip

Let me know if it works and I'll move it to the main site.

You won't find a utf8 module, it's built in.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Thanks, I just don't see why I have to buy it twice :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] cien12:
Thanks, you are so fast!

I will test the module at this afternoon (CET) once I will be back form work and let you know if it works.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] cien12:
Hello Morfic.

Now i have testet the utf8 functionality.

It works absolutely perfect for me! Now I can set iocharset to utf8 and all files and folders with special characters will be displayed and readed correctly.

With this Kernel you have done an absolutely great job.

This is the only kernel which seems to be perfect.

1000000x Thanks
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
Anything else in the new kernel??

I just have to say your kernels are the best, I have tried them all on both the n7 and n10 and I get the best performance and stability with your kernels. I bought your tweaker program just to show my support because I don't really use/need it. LOL
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Is this one linaro and the last one was "t" for trunk?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
Unless something changed the Google code is faster than Linaro when it comes to kernels, the opposite when it comes to ROMs.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
That's true for linaro 4.7 vs Google 4.7

gcc 4.8 though has improved optimizations for cortex-a7 and cortex-a15, latter is what our cores are.

That's why I tried gcc4.8 and right now 4.8 helps our kernels, would help our roms,I just don't dabble in roms.

Would love to see a Google 4.8, since it was the better 4.7 toolchain.

gcc4.8 didn't seem to do anything for any of the cortex-a9 kernels I tried them with, but manta and mako (I guess it truly is "A15 like" as Qualcomm claimed)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
The reason I said it was linaro is cos it says so in trickster. :)

I flashed it along with Carbon and it is **** hot fast. Even at 1.2 Ghz max. :cowboy:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] shaker2k:
Hey Morfic. I was wondering what rom you are using right now. I have a good idea which kernel you are using :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I would bet on either Rasbean or Carbon. ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
I haven't noticed any difference heat wise. Not running carbon though.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I meant sh1t hot as in fast. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] treIII:
Is the May 20 kernel experimental the newest? Is that the one I should download? Just got my N10. Thanks
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] shadowblade330:
yup the tx36 is the latest for now
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
You can get TX38 on page 84 it just hasn't been released yet. Doesn't feel any different than TX36 but that's not a bad thing at all. :cool:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] impulse101:
I have 17 pages in this thread, people have different settings on how many pays per page, you need to give the post number
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Just go to www.derkernel.com

I moved it. It's only got utf8 support added for a cifs user...although we all benefit from utf8 eventually.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Pedro Peguero Jr.:
What are the best settings for this kernel for gaming? I'm fairly new to the Nexus 10.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] shaker2k:
I just use the default settings and it literally flies!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
Disable fsync, and use interactive/sio
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Literally? lol
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
My tablet must be defective :(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] dafunk60:
Use caution when running with fsync disabled. If the tablet restarts unexpectedly data corruption may occur.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] shadowblade330:
yup happened to me many times just keep Fsync on if you don't want to lose your data.