yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] johno86:
He insulted a VERY well respected developer across multiple devices with a plethora of followers to set off a shutdown of all development. Regardless of what rc said - that he was not the reason. It was a pretty deep insult at that as I have seen them converse with each other before. So an insult of that nature coming from long time users that his work is nothing but a clone? At least other roms try to change the UI so it doesn't look like a clone?

This wouldn't be a problem if it stayed in the Nexus 4 android development section but what apatal said has come across to all devices that I own and currently use. Pretty ridiculous. Then for him to defend himself saying that this is a place of discussion so it's okay for him to say whatever he wants without repercussions? What a terrible way to try and hide instead of sincerely apologizing.

"Oh hey your work is a joke because it's nothing but a copy. You don't deserve any credit. Oh, hey I'm sorry but I thought this was a public discussions board where we could say whatever we want. If I was wrong you could have just said so, but oh wells. I don't want to deal with the consequences from my big mouth so I'm just going to pretend to leave XDA yet when people check my last activity they can clearly see that I'm still active."

Apatal claims to have been around for a long time. He's been around since Feb 2012. Posting as many times per day is not being around for a long time nor anything else. Insults developers and feels it's necessary to say whatever he wants to say without manners and thinking saying "goodbye" will keep him from being called out?

I'm seeing too many of these types of members and it's gotten worse over the years. They're around for a year and then feel entitled to say whatever the **** they want to say to developers - THE PEOPLE THAT KEEP THIS COMMUNITY GOING.

Sure, it was not all apatal but a slow build up of all the crap I've been reading throughout the development forums, but he was definitely the one who set this off because he considered himself an elitist/entitled member.

Okay. I am done.

I hope everyone can learn from this displeasure. Mind your manners.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Then several threads are spreading misinformation.

This is what Carlo replied to apatal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whisper13:
+1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
I don't know who ultimately pushed rascarlo over the edge, but I reckon rascarlo is too good of a person to point the finger back at that individual, apatal or otherwise.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lento10:
Where can I get XUD rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Lol

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I'm sorry for changing the topic. I've tried that [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] rasbean build (thanks to simms for the link) and It's not as smooth as SaberMod or RasSaber, no placebo I'm sure. Very noticeable while scrolling.

I know there was kind of a debate whether gcc 4.8 matter or not compared to dalvik tweaks (or something like that). Just wanted to share my impressions.

By the way, new chrome update and it keeps scrolling worse every update since v18. It's a shame cause last update has full screen in a currents way.

Ps: both roms tried with tf117b.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whisper13:
Gnex ras thread some are such ***holes :/ sorry for my manners but don't go flaming on apatal http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2015339&page=441 *sigh*
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
There was no versus discussion.

Considering sparksco couldn't follow it,I can't blame you for getting the wrong impression.

I felt the two changes would complement each other, not compete. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Was there a specific commit for that change? If I wanted to include that Dalvik optimization to a personal RasVanilla build where would I find it and how would I add it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Yeah I know, specifics behind those changes are beyond my knowledge. Only thing I can contribute is my impression. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
You should be happy. For a change nobody is blaming you. (Kidding of course)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Try different version of the kernel. This was very early incarnation of what tf125 is. I know that should not matter as far as ROM performance but in my personal experience 117 was one of the worst TFs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] I2IEAILiiTY:
Anybody play Black Ops 2? Got a simple quad feed with the DSR last night, no biggie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1GzDCH09ZQ

Lemme know what you think :cool: :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Johno86 got his 5 thanks he is happy camper now. ;)

BTW, Idk what's up with all the off topic, but there has to be room for improvement in the kernel. I consistently get .5 to 1h more sot with 113b than 125. Performance wise I have no complains with 113b and broke 7K in quadrant with yesterdays carbon.

I do not want to sound like a pretentious douche, but the idea behind ot is to help with development. Sorry I can't contribute more to development than sharing my observation, but I am too dumb, unskilled, and lazy to do what you do. I do appreciate your work but I reserve my right to express my opinion about it. :beer:

Oh and Vangelis, regardless of what someone said, it's all your fault. :beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
My tribute to the man and apology for my faults.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfSoaJxe3Y
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jaivan:
Hello all, been following this kernel since the Nexus S days.

I just got the 4 and flashed the latest Trinity kernel, everything is working like a charm.

There is one issue though, the colours are washed out been messing with the colour settings in TKT and can't seem to get it right.

Just wondering if there is going to be gamma control to further calibrate the screen?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Why so special that rom..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobraboy85:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Good question
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] brainmaster:
I'm very short on time these days to update my DBJ ROM, but if you guys are interested I have DarkRunner ROM for you, WITH Rasbeanjelly build tweaks, my Dark theme and my tweaks.

I'm currently running it on my N4.

For the people that don't like my theme, you can flash the VRThemes themes from my goo.im profile.

If I have time later today or tomorrow - I'll also make VRTheme with stock RasBeanjelly look.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
Hey guys,

I'm using Franco's kernel currently but I'm unhappy with the performance (smoothness). I heard this kernel is best for performance. My one concern is that I heard that when mpdecision is running on a custom kernel you can brick the phone (red led)... Has that happened on this kernel? If yes, is there a way to avoid it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

It's just really nice and smooth. No bull**** mods here, there and everywhere. It has one mod which is quick setting toggles. It's just a lot better in my opinion then running a full bloated modded ROM. It shows it's goodness when you are on it.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] robs898:
Hi there welcome! I got a red LED and bricked my phone but I am in the minority. Lots of testers here frequently get a red LED and recover fine. You just need to ensure you avoid benchmarking at high overclocking levels.

If you get into any trouble we can definitely help you out here! :D

Try trinity on completely stock settings and see how you fair (very low chances of red LED).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

There is no mpdecision on this kernel I believe. You only get red led when over clocking at 1.8Ghz or above and you run a benchmark as the phone overheats and drains your battery to nothing, all you have to do is chuck it on a charger for quite a while but I believe a couple of phones have died and gone to electronic heaven.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Correct, no mpdecision causing trouble.

Red blinking led is good, it means it's not dead and wants to get charged.

The kernel boots at 1458MHz, So if you don't benchmark at 1836/1836 you are not likely to see the red blinking fun.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
So, from what I understand from you guys, as long as I don't OC I should be fine in terms of red led "fun", right?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

:D:D Like a Doc
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
hehe yeah, but in my case it was dead, no charging helped.now i am too scared for benching

i keep it at 1512mhz and its just fine for me^^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

No, there are red led fun occurrences at random as well, had two without bench-marking or overclocking. After frantically pressing all buttons, shaking it & singing gospels it booted again.

Pa.pn2 had it dying in his pocket, flee no apparent reason.

Bad build quality..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
Actually it has more than one mod. The T9 dialling mod in particular is essential.

Why is this ROM so special? Well stock ROM is fast and stable. This ROM is basically Stock+.

Why is this Kernel so special? Well I heavily used my N4 yesterday including flashing this ROM and by 2am the next morning I still had 17% battery left.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Ya I am very impressed with the battery life I get with Trinity. Also I don't know if there are some under the hood tweaks on MMuzzy ROM, but honestly even when using the stock kernel you get fantastic battery life. I had 8% battery drain after being at work for 8.5hrs one day. (Yes phone was sitting idle on my desk not being used most of the time) but you try and have 92% battery left after 8.5hrs on complete stock and stock kernel. Not going to happen. But with MMuzzy on stock kernel it did. Actually had the same results with MMuzzy and Trinity as well.

Glad more people are giving this ROM a try, really a treat. I am on RasBean now but that's because I LOVE the theming, I think it's the sexiest and everything works.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Oh yea, T9 dialler. I always forget that is not a stock android feature. So yea, great ROM.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Not more risk than with a stock phone.

In other words no guarantees.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Just got my first red LED scare lol..

Found out that if you reboot after you don't have to charge ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
Yeah, I'm indeed very interested in flashing your DarkRunner :) Where can i get it ? Can't find it on Goo....:confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
yeah plze dl link...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I thought you were gonna throw one of those knifes at me :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Nah, that'd hurt.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I just changed to manifest to use unicorn butter's dalvik,I never dissected it to see which commits it had/were missing that made it faster.

There is also a copy of it on my git.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Oh, great....I didnt see it there last I looked. I'll look again.

Thanks

Sorry, Ive no experience with BitBucket....what Repo is it in?

Edit: Is this what you are referring to? https://github.com/Stevespear426/PUB_Manifest

It says it should work for AOKP based Roms, but not sure about AOSP. It appears all I would need to do is add that manifest to my repo and sync, correct?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Geez. Not on the boards for like 12 hours and come back to this craziness in Carlo thread. So sad
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
Try the latest Carbon nightly. It's just a little bit faster now;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I'm downloading that now. Keep getting weird problems with axiom so I'm switching
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im guessing the phone screen is half cocked when using axiom? :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
And a crap ton of reboots and the charging light getting stuck on
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
:banghead:

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Let us know what you think.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
[YOUTUBE]oShTJ90fC34[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
So far so good

I've used carbon before
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jboyer0000:
What is that battery icon?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] BrandoHD:
That's Speedometer, one of the options in Carbon
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anshumandash:
I too use that mod. :D

The best part is axiom rom has shut shop on droid hive as well. Few hours ago I wrote about some problems I was facing with GPS getting on while using Facebook, xda app etc. The other users started abusing me for not having my photo as avatar and for using xda. I left the place after few replies as I wasn't ready to take all that nonsense.

Now when I checked the forum, couldn't find the thread. Some one told me he has moved to g+.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Meh.. Drama ROM is drama.. Can't emphasize enough how I wouldn't let that ROM get remotely close to my phone.. Carbon, sure, and have.. They at least act professional.. The latter.. Not so much.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Carbon is nice.

Stevia is whack, the more you put, the weirder it tastes, never gets sweeter.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Carbon is indeed nice.

As far as Stevia. Diabetes runs in my family and I've been trying to cut it off at the pass while I'm young enough. (I hope) I cut my sugar intake by about 70% last summer.. Diet soda only and I initially replaced sugar with Splenda. Problem I had with Splenda though is it made me break out like a 13 year old hitting puberty (I'm 36). Switched over to the natural Stevia and my skin problems went away. I don't mind it.. My only sugar intake now is from the occasional pastry I have, and fruit but that's good sugar. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
I was thinking of jumping to carbon on the n4...maybe I'll do that tonight when I get home....too much drama going on lately in that rasbean thread

Sent from my Google Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fluffenforliberty:
I was gone for 2 days and what in the **** happened in the Rasbean thread the last day? Cheesus , looks like a war on the boards :p

Hope he considers to continue developing the ROM, I don't usually run in, but it's a very nice stockish lightweight and fast rom :D

Edit: Now SaberMod is gone too? Noooooooo, now I gotta start learning how to build ROMs lol, that was my personal favourite for a daily driver.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hello247:
I'm itching to flash carbon, but cant seem to get away from aokp. Any opinions if i should or not. ?

SwiftKeyed using Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Cost of trying: $0 and a few minutes to make backups

What you could lose if you try: A few minutes of your life

The answer is easy...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hello247:
Lol sorry i didnt mention i did try the carbon. Just wanted to hear what people think about carbon rom especially the guys that switched from aokp to carbon.

SwiftKeyed using Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Just switched over from whitehawkx's build to try out carbon again and its pretty damn slick with tf125

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
I recommend carbon, if rasbean isn't for you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I second that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] torana355:
+1 Carbon is the only full featured Rom that compares to Rasbean and Sabermod in speed and fluidity imo.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaxx24:
SlimRom is nice too.

Skickat från min Nexus 4 via Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
Hum, you guys should try Vanir Builds :

http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/mako/_FILE_LIST_.html

Or

http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/

Hey, got an interview later today for a new job...wish me luck guys ! :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Good luck
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] torana355:
Is that an AOKP or AOSP based rom?

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Is that an AOKP or AOSP based rom? Im assuming AOSP?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Meh. [MENTION=4429892]Martin_Ro[/MENTION] just released an updated rassaber, I'm trying to break my records of staying on one rom.. :p

Good luck with the interview. Make them realise that Y O U are their guy and they needn't look any further!! ;)

P. S. Link to Martin's build http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2291583
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chinthekng:
Just got my SAT scores back and I got a 1960 out of 2400.I'm not sure how old you guys are in this thread and if when you took the SAT it was out if 1600 but just in general do you think that's a good score. I plan on taking it again in October anyway though
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
AOSP based, see here for details (Toro Thread, no Mako thead) : http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38860-rom-vanir-v4221-jb-422319-yeah-its-got-a-hemi/

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Thanks Vangelis ! Yeah, i'll show them i am THE man :good::cool::cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
im on latest Carbon and its just awesome. plays in same division than rassaber and rasbean;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Go away antichrist, I'm trying not to flash anything else right now..!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kptnk:
Shut down your internet connection, leave your home, and go out find a cabin way deep in the forest or top of the highest mountain !:p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
lol.you should.its just porn.im on carbon since a couple of weeks now.before that i was on AOKP PUB all the time:victory:

and carbon is way better than PUB

and dont forget

Master Morfic supports it.lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
I came from Rasbean to Carbon. I briefly flirted with RasSaber but am back on Carbon.

The latest nightly (21/22 May) is very quick and stable. But it has a lot of features and in that respect is closer to AOKP and I really have NOT found an AOKP rom I like so that is strange :)

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Of course you do lol. But I third ?!? that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Meister Morfic supports some weird stuff alright.. :p

(never got that support thing; does it come with a trinity kernel..?)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I took it back when it was 1600. Got 795 on math but I flung the English part. Where are you trying to get into? Asked them what a good score last year.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] irishrally:
1600 when I took it and it told you on your results what percentile your score was in. Check your percentile.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
I've been on aokp pub for many weeks and I found carbon faster too, but battery drain was higher (of course, with same kernel and use for weeks). Not sure if that's because carbon (i think) uses cm dalvik instead of aokp's.

In terms of battery I've never tried something like aokp pub and rassaber/sabermod. On other roms i can't reach 4h sot and 2d of usage.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Yup, that too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Davik was fixed/tuned earlier this week.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
I went back to carbon and forgot how awesome that speedometer icon is!

Sent from my Google Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
Haha today is gonna be my first full day back on carbon in over a month and I was wondering if that battery drain goes away after a couple of cycles but I guess not. Oh well carbon has a great feel to it anyways its kinda worth it

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Well, I was talking about Carbon 1.6, was the last carbon I've used. :p I switched to rasbean and sabermod many weeks ago.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Simeon, did you really get 8500k in quad?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
8500?? :eek::eek::victory:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Yea he posted a screenshot in the carbon thread.

Carbon master race!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
That's for real. This is on 113b
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
many. 8500-8600+

dirty flashed carbon over rassaber, with tf125 at 1836/1836. my highest score didnt save, but this was the next highest..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
Is carbon using GCC 4.9?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
You can keep the crown, I'm getting 8k+:cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it appears that its dalvik improvements
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] torana355:
Nope. 4 7 :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
That's insane!!!!!! :D

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Connor Baker:
Are those dalvik improvements just for the nexus? Or are they for all the devices?

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
all this gcc4.9 bull must stop in here

gcc4.9 doesn't exist yet, it's a early development version, sure, you can pull trunk and build it and it works, but there is no benefit in doing so.

now if you want tangible improvements, 4.8 over 4.7 does have significant improvements for cortex-a15, your chips are very "A15 like", so you may be able to benefit from that.

People saying they use GCC4.9 is people selling you buzzword (buzznumber?) bullshiit, they know it's still very similar to gcc4.8, but hey, they can claim a higher version number.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nocoast:
Yeah guys cut this nonsense out about unreleased versions of GCC...we (as a community) STILL HAVE YET TO MAKE A FULL TRANSFORMATION TO 4.7 ....no need for all of the bugs that come along with a "4.9" nightly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
I'd say all... I never broke 8000 on either device before..

Both without any governor tweaking

N4

N10
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Buzzword vs trust

When I was new to android I would follow all the buzzwords and throw stuff on my device

Trust

I've been around the block awile and I learned trust. Trust that good developers like morfic, will put something that they know is proven and will add to what they do from experience and intelligence. And and from trust in the development that I follow, I know that if it's good for my device, then it will be added
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Morfic,

I cant for the life of me figure out how to use Pub Dalvik for Rasvanilla. I found Steve's git where he describes the process for AOKP Roms, but that didnt work as I dont have an AOKP base. I looked on your git but couldnt find it either. Is it as simple as renaming some lines in the manifest?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
yes it is. Another way is downloading the dalvik from Pub and replace it with the current one. Make sure you do a make clean then do make otapackage. That's how I do it