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[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
vogonpoetlaureate - your 2D score is extrmely low in 2 of those benches. With some simple tweaks you can get it up to 1000 points in Quadrant for example. I will post them tonight I am at work right now.

morfic - What in tarnation does EXP stand for? LOL just figured out the 'G' and the 'L'. Also is there a way to undervolt without your tweak app? I don't mind paying for it since you do a lot of work for us but it would be a bummer if we can only undervolt with the tweaker program. If it is just a bug with ROM Toolbox not showing the voltage table I would be happy to make my own init.d script if you could just direct me to the location of the CPU voltage table. I will be getting your app to show my support but I need to wait a few weeks for my wife to cool down because I have been a little trigger happy in the play store lately. LOL
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Experimental? (I believe CyanogenMod also uses exp for experimental)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

@brees

No undervolting but the kernel is -50mV anyway.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Tx6t with mr Robinsons. Similar to tx5g, maybe a bit higher.

edit

btw I just tested with Rascarlos vanilla AOSP and got 16,227 with tx6t. Not bad. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

True, only a hard coded -50mV, was intended to be a precursor for voltage control, time is scarce, so that's not available.

When it is, it would be in sysfs, which means no-one needs the app, it's for convenience.

Some just buy it as a thanks, that's even how the app was born, because people asked if I had an app they could buy to say thanks.

So eventually I started doing it.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Newest kernel runs fine but gets me only 13xxx vs the 16xxx I was getting with the old 4g kernel. This one have better battery life? Can't complain before with 11 hours on screen time. Other change I made was updating to the latest aokp pub. Maybe something is slowing down the score due to the room instead.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
looks like most score the usual, smidgen ahead of 5G
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mrRobinson:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

On my latest Pub build, stock kernel, 165XX antutu.

Tx6 gives about 200 lower but that's right after boot so I'm happy considering the undervolt and always runs cooler for me.

Can run more tests tmr.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Linaro has always been scoring lower than google lately, by a good margin.

Testing 4.8 trunk just to see what's in store.

We'd need benchmark details to see where the 200 went.

I'm not a fan of totals, they tell me nothing useful.

In this case it works since TX5G to TX6T is only a compiler change, so unless it's huge, similar == good.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
I ran a few tests right before bed and the benchmarks seems ok. I will post them later. Using performance governor @ 1.7GHz I was scoring right in the 165xx range like everyone else. I ran the tests between kernels on the same ROM, with the same scheduler and speed settings, with the only difference being kernels. App cache and data was cleared between tests as well as fstrim run before each test so that the benchmark runs would not be skewed by any sort of cache. Wifi was also off for the tests so that no services or apps try to take up processor cycles or IO for updates in the background during tests.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] TheGrayHatter:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Care to share your tweaks? :p
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
So i benchmarked at 1200/1200 and Taiji went from 22fps to 24.9fps which is a linear fps in crease matching 533MHz to 600MHz increase.

Even Epic Citadel went from 53.1fps to 56.4 fps (Put that calculator down, since many section already max at vsync, this couldn't have been linear ;) )

trying a few more things on TX7T before i upload it, I suggest people not comfortable with overclocking any part of their devices to skip the next few builds.

Starting to concentrate on manta, i couldn't help looking at clock tables, and i got the itch ;)

I scratched it, it's still itching.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Can I ask what 1200/1200 is please?

I and a lot of people are very happy to hear you are focusing your attentions on this device. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
A few posts back you see me mention the TDP limit kicking in and also the anadtech article i based this on was linked for me/us there too.

I figured if i run something GPU bound and keep CPU well below max i can be sure to benchmark GPU and not get confusing results by whatever limits TDP.

Which also shows, gamers should probably find the lowest cpu clock that allows smooth game play, GPU gets to flex its muscles, temps are controlled and TDP Isn't hit.

Edit: Could be i misread and you really wanted to find out about 1200MHz min/1200MHz max, i referred to as 1200/1200. Sorry, my bad.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] altimax98:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

I'm thinking he put the processor at 1200mhz min/max to stop it from throttling back. But I could be wrong.

Looking forward to the new build. Trinity works like a charm on my device...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Thank, that was correct, and TX7T is up on site.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I wanted to know what you meant and you explained so...no misunderstanding. :)

I didn't read the article. But I get what you mean now, thanks to altimax too. :)

Edit, some time later after flashing TX7T Dunno if it's any use but the overall score is about 500 more than I have ever had.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Here are the pics I promised earlier today. They are not of the new TX7 kernel though, I will have to run another test again right now to check the score on the update and will edit it into this post.

This is the TX5G kernel, set to performance @ 1.7GHz:

This is the TX6T kernel, same settings and all that is different is the kernel version:

Here is the new Trinity TX7T kernel with the same settings:

And this is my baseline for performance that I measure again, KTManta build from 03-02-2013(b):

Again, the ROM was kept the same, wifi was off during all tests, cache, dalvik-cache, and individual app cache and data of the benchmarks apps was cleared between each test. FSTrim was also run before each test. The only settings edited in each kernel was to set the scheduler to ROW in order to preserve fairness between kernels. This means that all settings and speeds were exactly the same, the only difference being the kernel itself.

Morfic, let me know if you want the KTmanta score edited out of this post since it is your kernel thread and I will oblige
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Can you show me the detail shots of all three? The total is not very informative :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] aaron.bufc:
Very happy to hear your focusing more time on your Manta :) Been the best all round kernel for me so far, had used both Franco and KT for some time beforehand. I guess that was down to your great N4 kernel though!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Ill get them for you tomorrow.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
only ktoonsez and TX7T though, no point in the others ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Heres mine, same setup, mrRobinsons

Bit less
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Here are the updated ones you wanted Morfic.

TX7T:

KTManta:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
So they are on par now.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] styckx:
I finally want to upgrade and get RasBean on my Manta.. Trinity has passed my most important benchmark. Speed etc isn't my priority.

This is my priority when it comes to kernels.. Stability. I was aiming for 1000 but I'm getting antsy.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
My AnTuTu is only 14k, but I'm also on Team EOS's ROM (build 8) instead. Performance governor @ 1.7Ghz. TX7T.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Even the first run of each before showed them within 50 points of each other, within margin or error area. So ya, the new kernel with higher GPU speed is up on par with the KTManta kernel now. Previous kernels were a bit behind because of the slower GPU.

The biggest difference though is that TX7T has half the read speed that KTManta has. I will check Franco's tomorrow to see what his kernel has cause this gets me curious. The doubling of read speed barely adds anything to points, but can do quite a lot for real world performance.

write speeds on average seem to be about 1MB slower too.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
How do you compute "half" ?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Franco.kernel does have fsync, although I believe it's enabled by default. I hear a lot of arguments about fsync, but I guess by default (unless implemented by the kernel developer) it's disabled. Enabled = more data integrity, less speed, Disabled = less data integrity, more speed. With that in mind, Franco's kernel defaults to enabled since he also implemented, so if anything... speeds should be slower on that regard. If you do get to test it out, I'd be interested in seeing both enabled and disabled fsync scores :) (just to see if it's even worth the risk to disable it lol; broke my ROM quite a few times with random reboots and fsync disabled :/).

I can't quite remember the actual sys thing to toggle fsync (if it's not in his Nexus 10 thread, it's in the second post on his Nexus 7 thread), but his app also has an easy toggle setting. No idea if any other app would work, since I guess the fsync location can differ between ROM developers (if I recall right, Trinity and Franco kernels had different fsync toggle locations on the N7, at some point anyway).

Edit: morfic, any chance for an fsync toggle btw? :p
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
working on the toggle right now.

fsync is ON by default in linux kernel

speed gains are from DISABLING it

on a stable system with battery backup (we do have a battery) it *should* be safe

on unscheduled reboots is when the danger of unwritten data exists
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
TX9T with fsync control is up.

echo 0 > /sys/devices/virtual/misc/fsynccontrol/fsync_enabled

To disable fsync, replace 0 with 1 to reenable it, will not stay past reboot.

for those of you who own, TKT, the switch in TKT will now appear.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
Are you planning on adding support for adjustable undervolting?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Later, right now i enjoy to know what voltages you all run ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] BigJArm:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

So far loving TX9T
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
That's why I'm uploading TX11T-GPU620.

Same disclaimer as for GPU600 versions applies.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
I guess I'd need some feedback from gamers how/if it helped them, benchmarks are nice to verify clocks work, only stable gaming though matters in the end.

Try to game as low on CPU as you can.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rascarlo:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

I like t9
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] dajogejr:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Wow....go to bed on tx6. Wake up to tx11.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Morificus ... I m on EOS v8 - TX11 ITS THE SMOOTHEST there

In the future you think that we will have OTG HDD working like ktmanta does ?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
AnTuTu says that read speeds are 26MB/s on TX7T, while read speeds are >50MB/s (the highest AnTuTu checks for) on KTManta.

Ill check read/write speeds again on the newest kernel version and try to get more in detail in them this afternoon after work. Also checking with and without fsync.

The kernel is looking great though already :D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brGabriel:
Try TX11T. I just tested and read speeds are >50MB/s
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] AngDR01D:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Here's what I got from benchmarks.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

The reason I keep asking for detail shots on antutu is simple, a low score like the sub 17k shot doesn't show where the drop occurred.

Cpu?

Memory?

2D? 3D?

I/O?

What speed was run?

Especially on test kernels like the batch from yesterday, I'd like to see that the changes I expect are showing.

That the drop is from elsewhere.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
TX11T with fsync on faster, forced 2D acceleration on GPU. Default governor/scheduler
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] andysoserious:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

How about battery life?

Maybe some of you guys can post here your used features and results?

Greetings
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
TX11 - basically the same score for me as with TX7 but yep, write speeds are up. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Can the memory bus speed be upped if it isn't already? I believe franco.Kernel has a similar tweak, and I believe it would help out with the display (since video memory is shared with system memory)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jhankg:
Here is a screenshot of my detailed score with the tx11 kernel on the march 25 AOKP pub build. I did a fresh install of everything. Anyone know why my scores are so low?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Probably thermal throttling, wait until the tablet is cool before doing the test. If you do it right after playing a game for example it will be hot and the cpu will throttle.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iamikon:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

I haven't done any real testing yet but tx11 just FEELS slower on my n10 didn't get to try 7 or 9 but I also didnt like how 6 felt. Reverted back to 5 but I'll do some tweaks/testing to 11 before reverting.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
are you benchmarking at min 1700, max 1700 for frequencies?

nothing matters unless we gage maximum capabilities, which are easiest to repeat also.

unless you benchmark in the sun or over a heater it shouldn't collapse that much
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] NoobieExtraordinare:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

I haven't benchmarked , but tx11t, feels hot in the back. The area near the rear lens. 200/1700, interactive/row. Same as before.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
We'll check what's where and how we like it, i tend to go for bus/memory speed increases.

Kind of like being able to increase your FSB would be preferable over reaching the same total clock by just upping your multiplier, in PC terms.

I just can't throw in too many changes at once, you easily miss how things work that way.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
For those who don't want to run 620MHz max gpu clock, based on cpu bound vs gpu bound, just like keeping cpu clock low and letting gpu max, the opposite could be beneficial if the GPU can handle a game at a lower gpu clock, but with max CPU

For example right now swiping with a max of 400MHz, using OS is fine, but Taiji shows obvious jerkyness at a mere 16.86FPS now compared to stock 22fps and OCed 25.7fps

people who suspect GPU scaling to be a culprit could also set the "under lock" to force a minimum frequency the GPU won't drop below if there is a low load area, then a heavy load area won't have to scale up GPU causing a possible visible hesitation

I quoted the above in case someone would prefer to limit GPU clock to less than max.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
I seem to get 3k less score on AnTuTu with Team EOS's ROM, in comparison to Rasbeanjelly. No idea on the specifics or why, but it's possible there's something going on in the ROM.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
some benchmark runs of different settings. This one is TX11 with fsync on:

and now fsync off:

Now an actual storage benchmark. This is fsync on with TX11, fstrim was just run right before this:

and TX11 with fsync off, fstrim was just run right before this:

and lastly, as I had said before I do not seem to get near the same read speeds on this as with KTManta kernel. Not sure why. All other performance besides internal storage seem to be absolutely great, the very best of any kernel right now. This run is the same scheduler and clock speed settings but on the different kernel, fstrim was just run right before this:

Dont mind the "cached read" message. That means it hit a cache at some point (always will) but the cached reads are not displayed in the score. You can see the cached read of 14GB/s on the results page.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

What benchmark are you using there?

Tonight is killed by co-worker's Windows 7 laptop, so they're won't be anything exciting happening, but I'll grab that app and go check a few things with it, curious now.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
A1 SD bench
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Am I doing it right?

(Forgot: Fsync On)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Wow thats pretty impressive. Is that the sio scheduler that is default in the kernel? and I am assuming it is rasbean ROM?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
it is a crazy cranked up read ahead value this benchmark seems to be very susceptible to.

i have not picked a size in this kernet yet, judging from the screen shot, ktoonsez uses 2048, as that's what matches your screen shot.

antutu won't notice it as it caps a little over 900, not even the "easy to fake" quadrant is impressed.

this benchmark however is

it's also glitchy, check for results, you find a 621.x (in app it showed 630something too)

on TX11T, no-op scored best btw, cfq worst, deadline did well. sio wasn't horrible (and scored this once bumped to 2048 read ahead) and row as usual blends in and makes you forget about it.

EDIT: you notice the live updated results hardly ever match what i shows in app?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Both tests I did should be with a read ahead of 512, but I will check to make sure once again.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
this test starts benching 1000MB/s, did it twice, then 600mb/s, then 259, so i thought it is going down down down, then i hit 341mb/s

I'm tempted to say i'll throw out anything the app reports, fair?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
hmm interesting. alright.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] impulse101:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Whats the stock kernel GPU speed?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

533, so we aren't doing much yet.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] theultimatev:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

A week on tx5g with eos 4

Just flashed tx13t and it's super responsive! Fsync disabled. Battery will hopefully hold up as long
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

What's the difference between 11 and 13?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Small tweaks here or there, upped it just to make sure we are on the same page, it'll be a few before I have another build worth considering another build.

Someone might notice something I haven't, because they use it differently, so if all is well, I'll just keep pushing forward.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
AmdfanTO

Read this page and the next few after it for the very small bit of work done on it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2015874&page=98
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Fidelator:
The third post here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2015874&page=98

I'll see if I can find the place were they found them

Never mind Enigma was faster.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iKarido:
Alpha 3 is up go grab it guys!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Added the usual deadline tweaks to make things smoother.

Didn't have them in before the trip.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Fidelator:
Did you take a look at the other thread? I an repetitive but it's because I hate the calibration in this thing.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Read the post, no link to those special files, haven't had a look at much on N10 yet.

Today N4 kept me busy, and yes, that color could be better.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
From CazeW in another thread:

Looks like those can be found in the sources for the Note 10.1?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Guess I'll be looking into that over time.

Going back to work tomorrow :(

Thank You
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Endless7:
Great news. Also thanks you for your job on nexus 10.:o
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sitnlow4life:
Morfic is the kernel compatible with AOKP?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] renna1992:
yes. just not with the cm builds.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mentaist12:
Not working on cm? Flashed it and the device won't boot...

Edit: just the post above me lol... When support for cmmmm lol
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hjlow:
When is Rasbeanjelly coming for N10!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Ted C.:
#1 on rbj, tick...tock....
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
You ask rascarlo that
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
The hold up is me, i need to diff his build to stock, the way we did for n4.

He is ready for my reply.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] NoobieExtraordinare:
Stickmount issue

Running Alpha 7 with Muzzy's ROM. Stickmount (pro) seems to mount the usb drive, but when i navigate to the folder it shows up as empty.

On my Nexus 7 with a similar setup i.e. Muzzy's rom with Alpha 3 it mounts properly ans shows the files. Any ideas? :(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Fidelator:
Hey Morfic, were you able to take a look into the possibility of porting the mDNIe from the Note 10.1? ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bigxie:
So, I got a little impatient to try Trinity on CM and created an anykernel updater for T10-ALPHA7.

Running great so far, going to run it through its paces tonight when I get off of work.

Shoot me a PM and I can send you a link.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] NoobieExtraordinare:
Anyone? Bueller?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Just benchmarked 13, everything scored a lil higher, especially GPU...BUT, the SD card speeds were way down :confused: Pretty much was the lowest I've scored so far...wondering what happened there.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Forgot to add my screenshot
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] mistermidas:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Just ran antutu again on 13, higher overall score but SD card speeds are still kinda low. Everything else is wonderful though.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iamikon:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

The n10 gets hotter much faster on 13 here. Probably my GPU doesn't really like 620
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

What was the kernel you ran before 13?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] NoobieExtraordinare:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

I was running 6t. 13 definitely runs hot.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] morfic:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten

Few pages back you can see how to lower max back down.