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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i posted that i dont use many minutes on my phone(about 100 min a month), morfic said i talk a lot, i said i klet my fingers do the talking(since i use a lot of data), morfic said he flicks people off too, i said im flicking him off right now.. comprendo?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Malinaw. Now I'm gonna flick at yah too..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
I average around ~3k mins/texts per month. Data I have no idea but this is what it normally looks like (real racing isn't normally there but browser tends to take that spot with me downloading ROMs and stuff)

EDIT: I thought I had added this at the end but apparently not... anyways... As you guys can imagine, my battery life isn't that great. I'm lucky if I don't plug my phone in at least 2 throughout the day. I'm enjoying this phone more than any other though so I'm happy :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mprziv:
Simms, any test kernels to share since 125?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no, not at the moment. maybe one soon enough, if morfic gets the free time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I seen all those rumored specs and it's basically exactly what I expected and should be. Minus the camera's.

Screen is obvious. Update to a 1080p or close screen.

SoC is obvious to me as well. Makes no sense for a a15 chip. The newer Qualcomm chips are to expensive and it's perfect sense to use the older cheaper s4 chips. Will be just like the tegra 3 in the 7. Lower binned chips for cheap from Qualcomm...

Toss in all your other normal components and it makes perfect sense. Google would frankly be foolish to not build it around the s4 platform.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] torana355:
Im enjoying staying on the one kernel for more then two days anyway :p TF125 is a real peach.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
imagine how hard its for me, at least its a good one :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Interesting about the N7 refresh. Seems minimal. I miss my n7 as it was a cool little frugal Nexus device. Just with an N10 and N4 in tow.. Zero place for the N7. The biggest upgrade that needs it faster I/O speeds. The thing was slow because the r/w speeds were atrocious.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it needs faster i/o speeds? :p

anyways, i heard that jelly bean fixed the issue for those few nexus 7. mine never had that bug. 2ghz btw, just under 9000! lol :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Am I doing it rite?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
2Ghz.. LOL... I know that thing was hot.. You could cook eggs on the back of the N7 w/ excessive load on overclocks. :) I never had the r/w bug that some people had w/ going below 2GB. If you Androbenched N7 Vs N10 though you would see the N7's r/w speeds were more in line w/ a two year old phone.. Hence it took long to boot up and start some heavier apps..

N10

N7

N4

EDIT: Updated N4 score.. I accidentally pasted the same N10 score in its place originally
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
perfect!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
What was wrong with W8 experience, except for development? Serious question - I never owned W8 phone and I love Nokia's build quality. Wanna here from real user that can compare to the user experience of the two OS. I'm still pissed off that Nokia didn't step up symbian when iOS came out.

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My phone is suffering from constant reboots, poor battery life and gfx artifacts. I guess I really fcuked it up. User error 101! I guess I need to start clean.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
what did you do to it :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Better yet. What is right with windows phone?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
What's a full-body exercises and bicep curls?: sarcasm I don't lift weights and i don't do nontechnical exercises. It makes the muscles I don't use nor need hurt. I purposely avoid kettlebell classes at the gym. When I want to train my strength I pick on 50+lb bigger guys to grapple, which ain't hard since I am only 140lb when in competition shape. And for conditioning - shark tank.

On a side note, after a week of farm work, I don't understand why people money to work out and tan. They both make my back hurt.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
The Windows 8 "market" is the worst. I've never found a single useful app in that dump.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
No idea. I don't know where to start from otherwise I would trouble shoot. I've been having reboots with the last several releases of CarbonRom for about two weeks. Noticed artifacting for about the same time regardless of ROM and clean install. And battery might be a result of user pattern as I have been using the GPS a lot. I might switch back to tkt to see if that helps. I'm currently with trickster. Also phone is running a bit hot - can't get it below mid-30 and I greenify everything and the phone spends most of its time at min freq.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
This is ridiculous
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
do you happen to have an /etc/init.d folder, with files in it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
So does rascarlo. You know what I mean!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
My bad
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
delete it and reboot, see if that solves the issue. whats in the file anyways?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
PMed you the file and rebooted

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Should be good to go
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
666

reserved for 666
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] original21:
Hi Simms. Its been a long time since the last time we spoke....

Anyways i am getting my Nexus 4 today. Which version (in terms of stability) of Trinity should i use?

Thank you in advance!:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
That's why you were still up, weren't you?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
where did you pick this up anyways? i havent seen imoseyon do anything for the n4.

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in this case, the latest IS the greatest, tf125 :)

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no. that i just realized :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
English, please! I might have picked it when I dirty flashed that slim rom
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
oh, just someone i met in the forums a long time ago. he collects/writes scripts, shares them. some work, some dont. anyways, keep that file off your phone, i bet your phone wont be so angry. sometimes picking up these init.d files unknowingly is like picking up a crackflashing std.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Thank! I'll report back on how everything is now. BTW, based on what you saw there, which one of my problems was caused by the script?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
probably the rebooting and artifacting, maybe some battery. maybe even more, that file included many "tweaks". some of those "tweaks" possibly would have negated trinity tweaks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I was getting artifacts across all ROMs. Reboots only happened with carbon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Simms: reading about jonup's issues I am worrying about myself and I see that effectively I have some system tweaks enabled on my ROM (xenonHD v 9.0) but for now I an noticing no problem making an exception for some random reboots (maybe this is the cause?).

It's safer to disable system tweaks and delete the files and the init.d's folder files?

Thanks in advance! I am going to attach two screens of my situation.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yea, its safe. most of those tweaks might even be useless.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I have to delete all the files right?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you can delete the whole folder
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
98tweaks was the file I had

Edit: downloading new carbon with a long changelog.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
This was what worried me, I am going to delete the folder and delete these files :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
98tweaks got installed after flushing CarbonRom update. :mad:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
look at the file, is it the same as the last one?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Guys, what's an artifact? :confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] panooos:
Glitch on screen not supposed to be there. Group of pixels with different colour for example. At least I think so
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
You are right ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Are you flashing a kernel as well, if so which one? A return to stock with locking - unlocking the bootloader is probably the best idea anyway. Start fresh. Backup your files first, everything will be wiped.

W8: anything else than Android feels obsolete. The only six words I can say.

Nokia: h#ll yes. Used exclusively from 1996 and until I got the N1.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I always flash ROM, then kernel, then wipe cache and davik. Sometimes I fix permissions before restart

I was using x3-02 interchangeably with my OB before the N4. love the size, the weight, and the built quality. Too bad all Lumias ate bulky and heavy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
I deleted all the files but I notice that when I de-select "enable start-up tweaks" to disable it, I see that after a reboot it's still selected, probably it automaticaly select itself.

Btw, considering that I deleted all the "init.d" folder, also if the "enable start-up tweaks" is enabled it should not product any effect right?

I mean, there are not the files in the init.d folder so also if this tweaks are enabled they should not stick, at least this is what I think :D

Thanks again man :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I deleted without checking. I'll check next time I update.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
In portugal i get 12 down (only :'( ) but 3.5 up!

Bt am using vodafone... I already tried 4g with a hotspot devices where u put a sim card and i got 70 down and 30 up

So imo your lte sucks

No?

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The n7 was fast on 4.1.2 but not on 4.2 ...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i downloaded the rom and checked the zip, its from the rom. alsp, the file is the same. so its the rom providing the dirty hacks, the rom thats probably spreading the ctacldlaaher std :p

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right. the files arent there, it shouldnt have any affect.

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my speeds posted were not lte, they are 3g, hspa+ ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
I know. In hspa i get 12/3.5, better upload but lot worse download

And i was just saying that my 4g in my country is 70/30 and when u guys talk about it u talk about 40/20.

There is a use difference in speeds...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
The last time I did a speed test, I only got like 1.2 something on 3G. The data package that I bought from my provider only gives me up to 7.2 Mbps but in reality the best I can get is 1.2-1.3. :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
then you dont want to see the data speed test that i just took underground, in the subway. they recently opened up a tmobile and att hspa+ network underground here, and today was the first time that i used it..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
Nah it's okay. It's different you know. Being in a third world country and all. And in here, all of the providers try to give you like the cheapest package they can. Especially for Blackberry Internet Service. You can get unlimited data and access for the whole services (emails, browser, social media apps etc) for just $9-$10. But the speed is cr*p. And that's putting it mildly. Used to own one before I switch to Android.

My data package is only $6 for 2GB (1GB on 3G + 1GB on 2G) and the prices and speed from other providers are almost identical so you just choose the one that gives you better coverage in your area. And hope for the best.

Btw, is it really okay to talk or post off topic in the Trinity thread? Sometimes I'm hestitant to post, especially if I'm not using Trinity kernel at the moment.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its ok for off topic. we're all friends here, whether you are using trinity or not. and this is a great place for friends to gather and hang out :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superbobup:
Simms, how you get such low ping?! I've never seen that apart from LTE.

Also, does your HSPA load/stream faster than LTE? I've seen my HSPA speeds almost match LTE, but it's still much slower in normal use
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
my ping was higher last year, around 70-95ms, in the beginning of the year it dropped a lot. the reason i use the build.prop edit for data isnt for data speed, but for a more solid connection to the data. it nearly instantly goes to the higher speeds instead of slowly rising to the top speed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
My pings are always triple digits but my speeds fine. This was taken about 15 miles east of Center City Philadelphia in South Jersey

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if you take another speed test right after the first one with the high ping, is your ping lower?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Ahh. Yep. I guess these build prop edits you use keep it live longer?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i see it as they open the door wider, per se. i bet that the towers around you are just a bit older, because there are neighborhoods around me where that happens to me also.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Makes sense. This area is one of the better locations. I average around 6Mbps in the Delaware Valley here. Love it. Some places dip into 1–2Mbps but still completely usable. I'm happier than hell though with t-mobile. When I was on Sprint you could be dry humping a Sprint tower and get like 0.325 Mbps speeds. Their 3G network was a disgrace

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
lol, the imagery!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] boysetsfire:
Seeing that you guys like to post nice flowers pictures taken with our nexuses... I think this is good :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
You mean Simms likes that. :p

He's a flower man.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] boysetsfire:
Oh, I hope he will like it then :D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
nice!

but i started today already out of thanks :(

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absolutely.. flower power!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
I love this flat line. Rassaber and tf125.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Disabled all system tweaks on my N4, I don't know if this is placebo effect but the device seems smoother and more fluid.

Talking about other,are you guys following the development of "Rippln"?

Here there is a video that explain what Rippln is if you are interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXoYrIpuZc

If you are interested and you want an invite pm me with your email address and your name, surname :good:

I find it promising or at least innovative.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i bet it isnt placibo. id even use all those tweaks, if i still had my g1/og droid. but not on my nexus 4, n7, or gnex. all you were doing was bypassing trinitys tweaks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
Got it!

Now I am happy with my trinity tweaks then :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Speaking of tweaks. That 98tweaks script talked about a few pages back. They come with carbon which I actually like. What do those tweaks actually. Or I should ask what are they supposed to do? I deleted the script and rebooted. Ran some benches and see and notice absolutely no difference in anything.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
thats because most those tweaks wont do much for a nexus 4. at best, they will interfere with what trinity is doing. what are they supposed to do.. the names are pretty discriptive. none of those tweaks will increase your performance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Yeah I looked and came up with the same conclusion. Most just looked like clean up and some housekeeping. I still like to ask though. I never really got into the deeper workings of the OS so I try to avoid making assumptions on some things. :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
a lot of those tweaks were developed years ago, and were useful at some point. problem is that these tweaks are still the same, weve just outgrown them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Gotcha. Now I know. I'll keep it deleted. Dig Carbon though. One of the rare few feature ROMs I can actually tolerate.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deeren:
That's why I do not like roms made to support dozens of devices of different kinds. They just contain lots of codes and stuff ... and their purpose is not to increase the performance or something but just for it to work on and support different devices
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RCDuke:
So what do you think of the AOKP PUB builds? AOKP by itself is designed for many devices, but the pub builds are only for four or five phones.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] BrandoHD:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that when ROMs are built, only the code for a particular device is compiled from all of the available code for all the supported devices

So although a ROM may support mako and the s3, S3 specific code isn't used when compiling for mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deeren:
Wow. I don't want to start a flame or something.I didn't express correctly.

What I meant is with every release and update, new features are being added; new devices on support.... I don't even know if the devs own the devices or if they are testing the builds on the n4. Its like they just concentrate on fixing broken stuff and adding new stuff( which will break other stuff which was working fine by the way) Personally for me- too many features, bloat.

I prefer a minimal aosp and a dev who owns the device and I am sure he'll be concentrating on improving this particular device performance wise.

Pls no flame or anything.it was just my personal opinion.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
No ones flaming you bro. Some of the guys are just expressing their opinions. And besides, that's what [MENTION=3644884]Vangelis13[/MENTION] is for - blame absorber. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pnut22r:
Does this kernel have headphone volume increase?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
If it doesn't it's cos [MENTION=3644884]Vangelis13[/MENTION] forbid it :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its headphone volume has been increased. but the only control for it is the phones volume buttons. other than that, there is no set control.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Hm.

Almost an hour fine and I haven't been blamed for anything.

Maybe there's been an earthquake..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
did you cause it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Would anything be s surprise anymore..? :what:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Does anyone else experience some battery drain when using Google+ app? Or is it just me?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its the app. greenify it so it doesnt run when you arent using it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Ok glad it isn't me. I did but it's noticeable once you start using the app. Great app though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
[MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION]

its my fault, maybe even morfics fault too :p http://androidhosting.org:8080/#/c/139/

thanks nocoast :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
It's [MENTION=3644884]Vangelis13[/MENTION] 's fault. Trust me. I know. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I must have a gazillion mentions by now...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Never heard of that guy vangelis13
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I was toying around with greenify the other day. I found that will not stop the Google plus process from starting back up.

Turning off all its receivers as well. I never had a battery issue with it myself I was curious to see if I could prevent it from loading the process. Did not succeed without a full freeze with titanium

Google plus with all sync and notifications off should not have a hit on battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
maybe you have it set to sync in the phones main settings, accounts, google? i dont get it running in the background, i use autostarts(disabled g+ everywhere i could in the app) and greenify.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I have it off everywhere. Dont feel like taking all the screen shots but it's off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
another one of those badly behaving apps. i had some issue with it on my nexus 7 last year, and one overnight it drained 20% of the battery. i uninstalled it, then reinstalled it a few updates later.

btw, like a screenshot cant lie :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
So.. I removed my Linux install some months back because AMD video drivers + Xorg/Kernel updates = a god damn nightmare.. AMD is truly awful. I've experimented w/ a little poo box and a 8800 GT for a few months now and it's amazing how smooth and perfect Xorg/Kernel updates are handled w/ Nvidia drivers.. Drivers were still operational every-single time.. The AMD driver set would randomly get all discombobulated and I'd have to boot into recovery, manually purge AMD crap out and edit the xorg.conf so I could get video again, then reinstall Catalyst drivers..

Now I've ditched my AMD 6990 and replaced it with a GTX 680 Twin Frozr for a month now and itching for a Linux install again.. The million dollar question I've been debating with... What distro should I go with.. I love Debian for its stability and ground up approach... At the same time I'm in no mood to deal with doing that either and like the Ubuntu/Mint approach of a more rounded out package w/ all the bells and whistles included.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ser Gilgoroth:
I have to warn ya...I'm not a real doctor...

Sent from my Nexus 4 when I should probably be working.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
It's official.. Nova Launcher just crossed into the "Updating stuff and adding features just for the sake of updating stuff and adding features" zone.. I hate how predictable this trend is.. Thankfully I bought Apex also awhile ago and that launcher is still true to form..

Edit: Meh.. Apex homescreen redraws.. Will suffer with bloat for now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Thanks for notifying the devs! Glad I could stir shiet up. It's all Vangelis fault. :D