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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
After using TF4h for a while, and loving it, finally updated to TF7c and with only two cores and 384/1512 I have to admit I'm impressed.

It's so strange, because I write about Android people often ask my advice about what to flash, but the people who do, more often than not, don't have Nexus devices, so I have nothing to recommend them. That's because besides Rasbean and Trinity, there is little, to nothing, I can vouch for anymore. Threads have become practically useless in recent months, but threads like this and Rasbean really encapsulate the magic of the custom Android world, and for our gracious hosts, RCs and the rest of you crazies, I just want to say thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
"Only Redhat" as in pre Fedora. I'm well aware it was never JUST Redhat (as in the only distro). After re-reading what I typed, I should have been more clear. (My excuse, I was typing while waiting in line). ;)

During the same timeframe I was also running Irix on my old SGI O2. (Art was my career goal at the time, until I discovered it was more of a passion then something I wanted to be forced to do commercially).

I've already switched bases to Trinity. Seems most of my questions is double checking others sloppy code. I feel a bit more confident basing it on yours, and less bad about asking you why you did something. It will save both of us time knowing that there is probably a reason things are written a certain way, and not blindly hacked together.

And honestly, I really don't want to be spoonfed, but I like the way you've helped me so far. You turn me around and point "that way". I can research and find my own way. Just being an utter novice I sometimes need to know at least what direction.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tarroyo:
Has anyone seen blue screen issues with Trinity? I installed the TF4B on CyanogenMod's latest nightly and it makes the colors go all out of whack, everything that was blue is now orange. Not only that, it also affects the boot up screen, after the Google logo appears my whole screen turns a light-ish blue.

I did some testing and found out this is a trinity issue, after wiping and installing only gapps and the ROM itself all colors went back to normal boot up screen as well. What's odd though is that all other kernels are now showing the same 'blu-ish affect' kernels that had worked before. I hadn't seen this issue until I installed trinity's TF4B kernel that [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] posted in another thread.

Can anyone shed light on this? Exactly what files does Trinity store on the SD card??? I wanna rule out all solutions before I format the SD card and/or flash the factory image.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
It's on CM's end, not Trinity. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46114798&postcount=23664
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Well, read this first, it talks about CM change that makes it "bug" with custom kernels.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46098546

Then, if you want to use trinity, flash another rom (rasbean and psx recommended) and flash latest Trinity test version tf7c. Will link it for you.

Edit: Here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46096987
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tarroyo:
Thanks for the replies, saved me a lot of headaches.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Also note that PSX switched to JWR as of v6 and above. I recommend using v5, because even with the JSS to JWR patch, I still notice lag when using a JSS kernel with that ROM.

But that's just my opinion.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
I'm on the latest PSX and all is running great. Actually, perfect.

No issues whatsoever
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Exactly. That's why I said it was my opinion. Also I use the default launcher and not Nova. The last time I tried was v6, and at that time it was slight enough for me to switch to a jwr kernel.

This isn't directed at you, but I see many people in the gaming world saying XXXXX game runs perfect when its in fact running at sub 60fps. So because of this I believe my own eyes over that of others.

If they see the speed, and it works for them, that's all that matters. I was just giving another option if they have the same problem I did.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whisper13:
Flashed this over the latest trinity in PSX and it gives deadlocks :((

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazer155:
I apologize for asking this since I know it has to have been answered at some point but how many cores does trinity use? It seems like it is set to use 2 and disables the other 2. There doesn't seem to be an option to renable to disabled cores. It works fine with just the 2 so 4 isn't really necessary for me but I just wanted to know if enabling all 4 was an option. XDA's search seems to be down since sometime yesterday.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Correct, it boots with only two cores enabled. If you want to enable the other two, head to /sys/module/auto_hotplug/parameters with Root Explorer, or something similar, and edit the relevant file with a text editor.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazer155:
Is there a tuning app that supports enabling and disabling cores in trinity? Trinity toolbox, trickster, and system tuner pro all don't seem to allow core enabling/disabling on trinity but they do with other kernels. It's more convenient if I can use and app to quickly change core numbers rather than having to go to the parameter file.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] way2muchcoff:
I'm having some problems. I am trying to install TF7c on Purity. I was on Neo 14b1. I followed the following steps.

1) boot into bootloader

2) flash the kernel from purity rom with fastboot

2) Reboot system

3) Reboot recovery

4) flash trinity kernel

5) flash 'mako_JSStoJWR_screen_tearing.zip'

6) wipe dalvik and cache

7) reboot system

Phone reboots but hangs during app optimizing. It will get through the optimization of maybe 20 apps then freezes. Nothing. Can't complete this process. I've tried this 3 or 4 times already and always it is the same thing. All JWR kernels work fine and this is the only JSS kernel I have tried with Purity. Anyone have any ideas? I can't see where I am going wrong....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
I don't know tbh, I have the tkt installed and just turn all four cores on via a set tab in Root Explorer when I need to, which isn't very often.

Just dirty flash the Purity kernel, then boot into recovery flash Trinity without wiping anything, and reboot. Should be fine then. What i do, is dirty flash my entire ROM in recovery, then flash trinity without wiping anything, the jwr fix and reboot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] way2muchcoff:
Thanks. Will give it a shot. Two questions...

Do i need to flash the JSStoJWR patch to avoid screen tearing?

Will I have a problem if I have to wipe dalvik and cache later for some reason? Or is it just problematic during the trinity kernel installation?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
yes, that's what the patch is for, but you can also disable HW overlays and enable Force 2D rendering in Developer Settings to do the same thing from what I gather. When it comes to wiping, I don't think wiping JUST the cache (in TWRP - Advanced Wipe) will be a problem, but I'm fairly certain wiping Dalvik will have the same effect later as it does on installation. so when you update your ROM, install the update, reboot into the ROM, back into recovery and flash trinity without a wipe again.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazer155:
Do you know what force non-boot cpu(s) does in the trinity app?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] way2muchcoff:
Thank you so much. Boots up fine now. Will test out trinity for a few days and see how it goes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
According to the original explanation of the TKT on the Trinity forums, http://forums.derkernel.com/index.php?topic=5.0,

"What does the "Force non-boot CPU(s)" toggle do in the TKT app?

When in use for debugging, this will shut down CPU1. When the toggle is set to online, you will have access to both CPU0 and CPU1. When it is set to offline, you will only be using CPU0"

Not sure if it still has any effect, I'm sure [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] or [MENTION=1490705]simms[/MENTION] will shed some light.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its useless at the moment, its just left in from before.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazer155:
Do you know why the voltages tab isn't being displayed for me in the trinity toolbox app?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
which kernel did you flash?

try tf7c http://goo.gl/pKEeEF only the last few kernels have voltage control. if you grabbed th4h it doesnt have voltage control.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazer155:
I'm using Tf4h, so that's the problem. Why was voltage control removed?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it wasnt added in at that point. trinity just added in voltage control. we werent adding in any of the "features" until we had a perfect bug free kernel. first added feature is voltage control.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazer155:
I thought tf4h was the most recent release. Isn't it? Or is it just the most recent stable non-experimental release?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
It's the latest stable release, yes, but tf7c is the latest experimental kernel. [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] shares these often for the community to use before it gets pushed to derkernel.com if proven stable enough.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Dang it Mr Morfic, how much I gotta pay you to make a JWR version? :P

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it is the last test kernel that got posted to derkernel, thats all :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
Nice one simms ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chinthekng:
SELFIE!!!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] danieleb89:
Hi I'm using this kernel for five days, it works very well and I can get at least 4 hours of screen on without any problem...

Today I installed two games, pivvot and plants vs zombies 2, and I noticed a destructive battery drain, like 10 percent in 15 minutes!

The phone also gets hotter, but I don't know if all of this depends on this kernel...

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it it happening when playing the games?

1. could be that you just happen to need a battery calibration(drain all the way, reboot, then charge it completely.

2. one or both games isnt behaving well(do you use greenify?).

3. one or both of these games might have a background "notification" that you dont know about.

what are your battery stats like? can you post a screenshot of your battery stats page?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
It gets hotter because trinity kernel disables thermal protection, so you don't get a decrease in performance due to heat. The con is that (in my opinion) battery drain is higher when the battery is hotter, I can't prove it but it would make sense from a physical or chemical point of view.

But try this, I use to do that when I played Asphalt 8: set both min and max cores online to 2, performance use to be almost the same but battery drain is much smaller.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
So does anyone have a TCP congestion control that they actually see a better speed with?

Just seems to me, without any real testing just everyday usage, that they don't seem to make difference what you set
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
They're all very similar. I use Reno.... it seems marginally faster.

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Throttle is on by default. Not sure exactly what type of throttle ( stock / custom and under what circumstances ) but it's on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
But I think throttle only applies to cpu temperatures, not battery. And it's really easy to reach 45°C in battery while cpu temperature is still below 65°C (which I think is the threshold by default). I hope I'm not misleading anyone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] do you think its possible to use on Trinity the wifi driver used on this kernel?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45913674

Its really noticiable the speed on it, but its meant to PA only.

Tks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
battery temp thermal throttle is "disabled" by default. cpu temp thermal throttle is on by default(you have to disable it yourself).

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i didnt look at which wifi driver it is, but its probably one of the others, that makes things better for some, and worse for others.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] BrandoHD:
I remember reading somewhere in Franco's thread a post about some testing that was done, and apparently Cubic is "supposed" to be faster, but don't hold me to that. LOL

Personally I used cubic, but I will try Reno, I don't know if I will actually see any difference though
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
No problem, thank you very much. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if you can find which one it is, ask [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] if he could build one with that wifi driver.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
He stated its the latest prima drivers, but I dont know much about this technical stuff or how it is integrated on the kernel.

Thats why I asked your kind help, as always :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gd6noob:
Having some issues.. the refresh is lagging and the "Disable HW overlay" doesnt seem to stick.. how do I fix this?

currently running the Purity rom and the TF4h kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
disable hardware overlay isnt supposed to stick through a reboot, and theres a flashable thats been posted several times in the past three days, here in this thread, that "fixes" the issue(and you dont have to keep disabling hardware overlays).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Yep. That's what happens. Either stick with a jwr kernel, or wait a few more weeks for 4.4

The patch pretty much changes the ROM to a JSS ROM.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Disable hw overlays avoids deadlocks, but doesn't stock on reboot.

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] danieleb89:
1. No, because my phone has less than 10 days of "life"

2 & 3. I use greenify but I don't believe that depends on it because the drain happens when I play, not when they are in background.

I attach a screenshot, when you see a vertical line means that I was playing XD

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
well of course then. since you are playing your two new games, your phones battery will drain faster, and your phone will get warmer :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ruzkay:
Hey guys is 4275mv correct for 100% battery? After I flashed this my battery jumped from 5% to 50% so I wanna see if calibration fixed it. Don't want Red light o.O

Any one knows the voltage range for Nexus 4 battery?

Trolololed from my iPhone 5S
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Google must be doing something really big. Few hours ago synchronization was disabled, and now Youtube appears offline. This message is pisplayed:

Sorry, something went wrong.

A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation.

LMAO.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
4275ish sounds correct, without looking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Yes....its a 4.3v battery so that would be accurate.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
so i went back to using 4 cores max and 4 cores min, still at 1026mhz. honestly, this configuration might be a little bit worse on battery, but it feels better, and most importantly i feel better using it :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
I've not tried 4 min yet, but using 2/4 I saw a negligible change in battery life. I've also tried with 2 cores and 384/1512 but that crushed my battery life for some reason, haha.

But I will have to have a go with min 4, battery life generally doesn't matter much to me, always near power, even here in Africa :)

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
me too actually. im almost always near a power source, except on a rare day off when i leave for the whole day.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Same. I walk to work, and walk home. It takes me 20 minutes one way. And on the weekends, when I do manage to get out of the city, we try to hit the countryside where there's no signal, or we turn our phones off.

I should post you guys some pics of my walks, our city is pretty good looking.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i really hope that this is a rumor without any truth to it..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I would be shocked....Android IS open source....although, they do close source all their Google apps so who knows. I dont think Google owns AOSP code though so not sure its even possible....someone correct me if Im wrong though.

Who's Jef Oliver?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
That would be a sad day.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
android rom is apache licenced, the kernel is completely open source. but i think he was joking anyways..

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Jef is part of CM, at least used to be(cm public relations).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] smoka206:
Google would lose my respect and my business for life. I wouldn't Google **** anymore.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
I think we (xda geeks) matter little or not at all when it comes to those things.

Wouldn't be surprised if this happens some day soon. Hundreds of millions of dollares at stake..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] smoka206:
I realize that most people don't know and don't care as long as they can get on fb and text. But it's against everything I like about android. But after reading this article from last year http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/5/... down.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] smoka206:
The article says they can't close the source to OEMS because they own Motorola.

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/5/19/3031130/google-android-free-open-five-years-china-regulation
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
The real question at that point would be dump Google/Android for what? Apple? Dumbphone?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
In a chat with myself in IRC I figured out that he is just making stuff up.

Move along.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
If he is a member of CM, It's obvious he's trying to justify CM stab to developing community. Right now the only open source project that is going corporate is Cyanogenmod.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eyronic:
Haven't tried that. I don't have a credit card nor paypal to donate. :crying:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] opethrocks:
Govenor control is awesome, power to the people! Been using conservative with freq_step @ 75 and sampling_down_factor of 2. Talk about "all or nothing" cpu. Very efficient and still fast as hell. http://db.tt/XmbLcIs0
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Appears I have a rev 10 chip, fast binned. Middle of the road, but at least not nominal :)

91g running very well, although I'm quite interested in the recent testing that eliminates holplugging in favor keeping all cores online when screen is on, without much battery loss. I heard franco was testing that idea out, and Simms already runs with that set-up daily. Personally, ive not had any issues w 90 series, although im mainly using the tried and the ondemand\deadline set-up so it may not be whats being worked on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Diamondback:
Okay guys, the OP might like OT stuff here but we certainly don't like PMs being posted in public.

It's a

private

message after all.

Please refrain from posting any further screenshots or quotes from private messages.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yea, i kinda agree with you. PM's shouldnt be posted in public unless all the involved parties agree.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Sup fellas, same old crowd from the Nexus S days, love it , been keeping an eye on the trinity thread , loving the new improvements from the Bionic patchs on Roms, quick question though, i know of a few ROMS that have these optimisations such as : - Primerunner, -Rasbean , Bionic , i know this is the Trinity thread, but i love the high scores in the Antutu benchs, are there any other Roms that have these patchs?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Knighthawk108:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Well PA has them, moles said yes when u asked him :p. But benching wise, I didn't get great results on the latest nightly compared to prime runner or rasbean. I'm on rasbean again now. Can't beat it imho :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Steve's AOKP (PUB Build) might not have these exact patches, but the outcome is exactly the same...5500+ Quadrant and 21-22k antutu at 384/1512. It is very nice if you like highly customizeable Roms.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im happy with my nominal :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
thanks , just what i was looking for :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

where is this rom please?

edit : found it

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : SlimBean RC1 (Android 4.2.1)

Kernel : Trinity
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Agreed... I dislike what benrees does, it's disrespectful man! No need to humiliate anyone, just tell them the truth and leave it at that! We are humans, we make mistakes, we must help one another! It is what Mary J intended

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] limestar:
Ok i didn't search all the pages. But just flashed the latest and had a strange bug with Xylon rom. My battery was full. Flashed kernel and wiped caches and then when it started it said 0% battery but now that I have plugged it in it's going up to 100% very fast weird.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Here you go......http://androtransfer.com/get.php?p=stevespear/aokp_mako_PUB-EXP_Jan-24-13.zip
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Remoteconcern:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

OK guys, I've got a question. I've looked around the available ROMs and can't find anything. I'm ideally looking for something which is as close to stock as possible, but with a 2g/3g toggle.

Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Do you mean like this?:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
where did ya find it ? im having trouble
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

2-3 posts up somebody posted a download link:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Remoteconcern:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Yes, exactly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

OK, sorry about the PM being posted, I just did it for the lolz. Obviously if it was something private and only meant for me then I wouldn't of posted it. :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
Well if this is true, then this is good news for some other fledgling open source mobiles OS's, like Ubuntu. :)