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[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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Yeah I did want to hear flashers experiences etc
[Ubuntu Touch General] fordwolden:
I might be easy to please, but I really like this. A little bit of ironing out the lag and UI in general, a few basic apps and I'm sold! Saw in the installation process that it was a different command for flashing a daily, if we start seeing those I think they're not far off a usable version for my needs. Need to be able to read kindle books though!

Edit: Might be an idea to specify that I flashed it on a Nexus 7
[Ubuntu Touch General] sgtkwol:
Fast boot. Love the UI. What works, works really well, but I got it to lag pretty bad, at one point.
[Ubuntu Touch General] BHuber09:
Re: Ubuntu phone OS Epic Win? Or Epic Fail? Your Thoughts (keep it clean) vid links h

I flashed it on my N10.

Only 3 words can describe it.

Beautiful

Smooth

Nonfunctional

I'm going to say its an epic win still because its not the official release, just a "preview".

All I know is that it will be killer whenever its fully functional.

Tapp'd from one of my Nexus Devices
[Ubuntu Touch General] Zurko:
AW: Ubuntu phone OS Epic Win? Or Epic Fail? Your Thoughts (keep it clean) vid links h

Also flashed it. I think it will be very hard to become a real alternative to android. Google is developing for years and soon key lime pie will be released.. We'll see

Gesendet von meinem Galaxy Nexus mit Tapatalk 2
[Ubuntu Touch General] sgtkwol:
After more usage, iPhone user agent makes me sad. :crying:
[Ubuntu Touch General] juicyjones:
It's terrible. Eye candy is one thing, and novelty is fun. But from a user experience standpoint it's very bad. Bad clues, fingers in the way, paging through apps to dig through multitasking, awkward gestures like getting to the home screen. Controls places in hot zones for the swiping, low information density. The settings bar at the top is a train wreck of bad design. The list goes on. Give it time I suppose, but for now this is just an interactive slideshow concept piece.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TechNoJerky:
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I would never get used to a gesture controlled os like this. But I would give it a try...
[Ubuntu Touch General] darkerm:
I have Mixed felling about Ubuntu.

Ubuntu as phone looks boring but I think its better in Tablet.

If I can dual boot than I'll try it but I'll never leave Android.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Serious_Beans:
You do realize it's a DEVELOPER preview, as in it's for developers to see how some of the apps and gestures work and to integrate their app experience into it, it's not made for anything else. The UX isn't complete and it will probably show hints the first time you set it up when it comes to the market, don't expect anything more from this than the most basic functionality.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Re: Ubuntu touch RELEASED!! So Epic win? or Epic fail?

Has any1 flashed the tablet version?

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[Ubuntu Touch General] bbrad:
Re: Ubuntu touch RELEASED!! So Epic win? or Epic fail?

No but I seen a video on it it looks better than the phone version it actually looks worth it
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Re: Ubuntu touch RELEASED!! So Epic win? or Epic fail?

When I saw that I was blown away if canonical only succeeds in one area it will b there I like how they used the sidestage thing completely addressing the problem that android has it means a app doesn't need tablet support and doesn't need to be resized like in android also it enables easy multitasking there were other things not that's what stood out to me my only issue is that it seems u won't be able to run two tablet apps at the same time :(

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Re: Ubuntu touch RELEASED!! So Epic win? or Epic fail?

I installed it.. It was pretty neat as a concept. Can't wait for a stable non-laggy version with Data and not just a DEVELOPER PREVIEW.

(Capitalized because of those idiot people calling it a failure when its just a Developer preview. not even an alpha.)
[Ubuntu Touch General] kinfauns:
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[Ubuntu Touch General] nocoast:
Bottom line...it madd my nexus10 feel like a super locked down kindle...I get that it was a dev preview but c'moooon.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jnewman1991:
I liked how it looked and think I would really like how it works as soon as it gets all the kinks worked out. It made my Nexus 7 run pretty slow.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Is that sidestage thing working in this build?

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Findee:
I personally really like Ubuntu Touch. It is definitely a developer preview and it has a long way to go but I'm excited to see where it goes.

There are small things that annoy me how it currently works but many things could change in the next few months.
[Ubuntu Touch General] csux:
Want to try it but it's only available for nexus. Oh well
[Ubuntu Touch General] Sparx639:
Its not even finished yet. Its like trying Ubuntu through your browser. Maybe in a month it'll be worth porting and trying.
[Ubuntu Touch General] newb4r9o:
Epic Win

Epic Win!

Why?

For those of us who value privacy, it seems likely to provide a tab/phone that will function adequately (if not well) and will NOT phone home with our identity, location, and surfing/shopping preferences.

Google doesn't like Pdroid, and will step on it if it becomes too popular or works too well.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
I'm not a 100% sure, bit I think the

will be send, like it is on the desktop too since Ubuntu 12.10.

But I really hope that Ubuntu will make it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] aironeous:
For the Nexus 7 Plasma active is more functional at this point. There is no forum for that OS here.

Here is a nexus 7 running plasma active.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMwMzc
[Ubuntu Touch General] leventccc:
I think it's going to be a epic win for developers but not sure about users.

When I was thinking about the future of this os, I thought these :

2-3 months later:

[KERNEL]Dual Boot Ubuntu & Android on your device

1 years later

[HOW-TO]Run your Android apps on your ubuntu touch

2-3 years later:

[APP]Virtualbox for Ubuntu Touch Tablets [RUN WINDOWS RT INSIDE YOUR DEVICE]

4-5 years from now (I may be exeggerating :D ):

[HOW-TO]Compile CM for your device ON your device
[Ubuntu Touch General] houseboatwayne:
THEY GAVE ME A TASTE BUT NO NUTRIENTS!
[Ubuntu Touch General] nick34609:
It was nice for a Dev preview. Only thing I found funny was Facebook thought I was on an iPhone lol.
[Ubuntu Touch General] deedii:
This is a WIN. Am I forseeing a compiz fusion to work as well :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] brantzlee:
I just care about whether Ubuntu can running some apps for android.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
I think android apps will come in sooner and virtual box probably never or android I'll get it first

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[Ubuntu Touch General] cctoro:
Epic

HAHA, I thought that was weird too.

Epic, great interface. Can't wait to port a working version.
[Ubuntu Touch General] MetinKale38:
AW: Ubuntu touch RELEASED!! So Epic win? or Epic fail? (Keep it clean)

Nice preview version, I can't wait to get a stable version for everyday use.

The design looks great and they swipe commands are really great (even if they are quite laggy).

I have an HTC Desire with 1 GHz and 512mb ram and it does run on it, as fast (better said as laggy :D) as i saw on some preview videos.

I think the core system apps will run quite smooth, even on a low end smartphone.

Tapatalked with my JellyBean powered HTC Desire
[Ubuntu Touch General] Sparx639:
It won't be able to officially. A lot of android's components were removed along with dalvik. Dalvik is the thing that runs android apps
[Ubuntu Touch General] marineo.:
@MetinKale38

Where did you get zip flashable file?
[Ubuntu Touch General] brantzlee:
oh,Thx for your answer:D
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Go here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2159291

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[Ubuntu Touch General] frankito777:
I couldn't agree more!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Any1 try the updated builds?

cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/

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[Ubuntu Touch General] YoursTrulySarcastic:
I'm installing them right now

---------- Post added at 01:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:39 AM ----------

The preview now works more smoothly and with less lag, I'm not sure that anything has been really added to it

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The preview now works more smoothly and with less lag, I'm not sure that anything has been really added to it
[Ubuntu Touch General] SevansD:
Or... Some Dev group sets about including the scrollable launcher to pie controls recreating the ui in a custom ROM that is compatible with existing app collections? The mobile/desktop symbiosis would not be achieved but that's one of those things I don't know I need till I use it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Mix3d:
After playing with this for a few days, here are my thoughts:

From an App developer standpoint, I'm still finding their lack of / limited UI guidelines to be concerning, and based on some of canonical's comments about the developer preview intent, it sounds like they still haven't figured out a lot of UX issues.

The back button issue alone (have to swipe up for each back movement) has me fearing the worst for page-heavy apps, with both wide and deep navigation structures. Anyone else looking at it that way?

I'm doing back-of-napkin based sketches of what a facebook-style navigation model on today's iPhone/Android UI would work... (Which is part of an app I support), and so far I'm having a hard time making it happen, without adding in more gesture based app navigation (hard to learn), or overriding the header area to go against their minimalistic design.

Meh.

Anyone else concerned about the actual App ecosystem?
[Ubuntu Touch General] Sparx639:
I'm worried about the same issues you had just mentioned, I don't think its going to have apps like android or iOS, I think it will have similar apps to the ones you would normally find in the Ubuntu software center, thus appealing to only to users that are comfortable with your average Linux operating system and the apps that go along with it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Whoa guys don't write it off yet Rome wasn't

built in a day canonical may not take off initially but I don't think they'll be end up being some secondary os either (like Windows) they are open source and open to ideas they may ....scratch that will have to undergo some major changes before they build this into a proper operating system but that doesn't mean it won't happen I mean look at android it started slow then snuck up in everybody and is now the most popular operating system in the world :eek: lol I think that back button thing may not necessarily be an issue cuz from my understanding (this may be wrong) each app will have its own menu that pops up rather than having one unified thing like the gnex has on android on which case the menu may not necessarily disappear

But I too fear for this OS devs may not be sure how to develop how a gesture based OS and that may cause accidental presses menus popping up when they shouldn't just absolute chaos but either way we have to wait and see :)

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[Ubuntu Touch General] omnius1:
That's what I'm thinking. We're probably looking at a pretty small app world along the lines of what you'd find in the BB or WP app stores. I can see dual-booting being an option but that's an awful lot of jury-rigging just to get a few swipe gestures when you can accomplish the same kind of UX or close enough, using some of the swipe-multitasking and gesture apps that have been popping up in Play Store like GDM Gesture control, Glovebox, Sidebar Pro, Swapps, etc.

A user over on crackberry.com set out to make both his android phone and tablet do all the things you can do with swipes and gestures on BB10 or Ubuntu Phone so that he can use pure swipe gestures to replace ALL of his button functions, and they also work within open apps for multitasking (He can open up the official jellybean multitasking window from a swipe within anywhere). Same experience without losing the apps ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] jonny-boy:
I think ubuntu touch has a realistic chance to become a good system, because It has a new interface which is different from IOS and Android.

It uses the hole screen much better than the the Sense Skin for example, which isn't so nice anymore in my view.

Ubuntu Touch runs smooth for a Developer Preview, but there is much to do.

A very important factor is the App system, because most of the people buy a smartphone to use apps.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
I'm personally looking forward to when phones with Ubuntu Phone OS preinstalled start shipping.

My current phone has little to no development, and only 2 GB storage space internally, so unlikely I'll ever be able to flash Ubuntu on it. I was wondering though, when I do eventually get a new phone (gotta get a reliable source of income first and pay off my tab) do y'all think I should get a Nexus device in the meantime? I doubt I can hold out till next year.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jskandhari:
Win - Win

Am a Hardcore Ubuntu User since Ubuntu 6.10 so much so that as on Date even my parents use it as primary OS on Desktop

The possibilities with Ubuntu on Mobile are endless...
[Ubuntu Touch General] Toxina:
Ugh. I wish the daily driver was already ready at this point :(

Really prefer Ubuntu Touch over Android.. love the smoothness and the Design!
[Ubuntu Touch General] 1337RYoN:
That sure looks better, even more than JB 4.2.2.

I've gotten a teeny bit tired of android and want to try something new. Might be getting the first Ubuntu phone if it has specs comparable to the best android phones when it comes out.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Considering in the past I used to install a new Linux distro every week and flash my Gio often, I feel the same way.

Mind you, I've never gotten to experience Jelly Bean as it was meant to be experienced,, so there's also that.
[Ubuntu Touch General] LimeJuiz:
I really looking forward to try it on a device !
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Probably s4

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Am I the only one who has steered clear of the S4 and anything relating to it because I hate Samsung almost as much as I hate Apple? If I get an Android phone, I want the Android UX, not the Samsung UX. I'll be glad when they finally ditch Android for Tizen, or Google locks them out of the Play Store because they start breaking the Terms of Agreement.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
This isn't a place for you to troll this isn't a s4 thread it's a Ubuntu one

lets keep on topic

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Wasn't my intention to troll good sir. I merely happen to go off on a tangent whenever a topic I'm passionate about comes up. I apologize and will try to stay on topic from now on.

I have a question for those Nexus4 users: is a ROM for Ubuntu out yet and if so, are you dual-booting with Android? How much usable space do you have for apps and media?
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
I feel you, except I don't hate Samsung, I hate people who refer to Android as Samsung, as if Samsung owns Android like Apple owns iDevices.

Anyways, back on topic: Nexus 4 release is out, I'm not too sure about dual booting. Doubt it though, Boot manager was the only Dualboot there has been for Android.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Well, my other question applies to you too, since GNex also doesn't have removable storage, correct? How much space does the Ubuntu ROM take up? If you have a 16 GB model, how much storage space do you have left?
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
Around 600-700mb

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[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
Does it use 600-700MB or are they left?
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
No that's the operating system size I think it was actually closer to 500mb though but anyways that's the ballpark were looking at

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[Ubuntu Touch General] 3DSammy:
You may be interested in this post.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39255942&postcount=6
[Ubuntu Touch General] tnayrbj:
I am a little confused. Can you make calls and surf with this release or is this just a demo? I have a lg optimus g and can make it into a nexus and would love to run this.

Can someone, who is running it on a phone, post what works.

Thanks
[Ubuntu Touch General] nutdevza:
Wating devs port it to my device.

May be it's better than android !!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Per the latter, we'll have to wait and see. The lack of apps might bother some but as long as I have a decent gallery, music player, and social networking with notifications, I'm good.

As for the former... if that was a request for people to help out, providing what your device is would be a good start.
[Ubuntu Touch General] domini99:
I wish i whas smart enough to port it to my device :(

Sent from my sending thing..

Stupid Macbook Air can't fly
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
It's not about if you're smart enough, but rather, if you have the knowledge, experience, and probably most importantly, patience.

I'm lacking in a few of those areas. Plus, users of my device are still without a flashable stock ROM image (or any ROM for that matter), so if something goes wrong, or we want to return to Android, we're screwed.
[Ubuntu Touch General] coconutdog:
How many packages from the Ubuntu repos have been ported? Anyone knows?

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[Ubuntu Touch General] domini99:
I have no knowledge and experience with porting. So i have no idea what to do. I read the tut a few times, but i dont understand :(

Sent from my sending thing..

Stupid Macbook Air can't fly
[Ubuntu Touch General] moocow1452:
I'm trying to get it it into my Nook Color, if that works, I'll get a walkthrough going, since I'm pretty brainless too, just very persistent.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Num43:
I'd love to be able to use my phone as a base for a laptop/ PC running a simple PC OS for school. Would save the cost of getting a new laptop and will be just awesome.

So I hope Ubuntu is all that and a beg of port.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jadephyre:
It's a fail, at least if nothing has changed since they first unveiled it.

Also, I find it a tad appaling that Canonical appearently did not have enough manpower to even develop the core-apps themselves.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Think about what you just posted. How many of the core apps of desktop Ubuntu are developed by Canonical? Besides the base of Ubuntu, Unity, software centre...

Unless I'm completely missing something, Canonical isn't exactly Microsoft. They rely on the Linux community for a lot of development. It's only natural they'd extend that to Ubuntu Touch.
[Ubuntu Touch General] deemeetar:
Lol they outsorced the core apps to have an image of openess, not because they don't have the manpower to do it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Findee:
I won't say all Linux distributions, but all that I know of do this.

Linux distributions rely on the community to help with the apps.

Remember that Linux is completely free. They don't charge for the os unlike Microsoft and Apple and so they don't have as much money to put into development.

This is something I have always liked about Linux. It gives other computers the chance for people to use their software instead of what is made by say Microsoft. As such, they are often better and more developed them the ones on Windows.

Look at DVD burning programs for instance. The one in Windows is appalling but as Linux use programs made my someone else, it is far superior because they can more time and effort into it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
Also music players. Banshee, Amarok, and Rhythmbox for the most part have a user-friendly UI (KDE sometimes trips even me up). They also have a bunch of features I wish more Windows programs would have. My music player on Windows is MusicBee, probably the best I've used on that platform. But it just doesn't have that same "soul" that Linux programs do. That human spark is missing and it just feels like Windows gets in the way when I'm just trying to listen to my music. (Doesn't help that ALSA sounds better than even ASIO on my system.)

My point is I agree with everything Findee said. Linux is free and for the most part consists of volunteers who don't get paid much, if at all, but as a result, the quality of the work is greater than if they were just in it for the money, as the developers - the community- put their heart and soul into their work.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Shiftone:
Pffft far to many 'unqualified' responses here. xda-developers is more like xda-whiners these days.

Anyone expecting a functional product from a developer preview is stupid - plain and simple. Anyone that whines because it has taken more than a couple of months to make it to beta (still a developer image by the way) is just plain irratating.

For me - epic win - the potential of a unified kernel accross platforms is a huge deal and this is what the majority of xda members (with absolutely no clue about software development and architecture) seem to be missing completely.

If you can't code, complie from source, port, debug, log, investigate and enjoy doing it then stay away from developer releases and topics and stop filling them with uneducated mewings demanding a final product and declaring the uselessness of something you don't really understand.

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Alucai Vivorvel:
I can't compile anything but simple programs from source, and I only have limited knowledge of C# (coding in Visual Express 2008 because school still has crappy XP machines). Yet if I could install this I would. Even a non-functional developer preview is enough to make me even more excited for the final product. Of course it's not going to work properly, I wouldn't even call a dev preview a beta! It's more like an alpha release, just enough for devs to see what they're getting into.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Psilowin:
I say epic.!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] bmanforev:
It looks cool but I will have to get hands on before I make a decision
[Ubuntu Touch General] Mineturtle33:
Yeah, why would they sell to Google? Google already has Android and really doesn't need another mobile OS. For a desktop, Google already has Chrome OS, although that hasn't exactly become the new OSX. (I do prefer Ubuntu to both)

Ubuntu touch MAY become popular, but devs need to make it more compatible with lower-end devices. After all, isn't that one of Ubuntu's things? That they're compatible with bad hardware?