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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It's nowhere near as bad as it seems overall though

The issue lies with this. SoC vendors using the all the process gains to push maximum performance and dynamic range PLUS the vast majority of devices that don't give the user any control of it.

There are power gains really everywhere though. Display panels are getting better. Add in the active display refresh they do on top of it....

RF stuff like envelope tracking and all the tuning etc.

Higher watt hr battery's.

And so on But what's missing is hey I got a snapdragon 801 running at 2.5ghz.... I don't just want that extreme power saying stuff but the ability to underclock. Adhere to a TDP or whatever you want to call it.

And it's in actual devices at the moment. I can't recall exactly what they HTC one and gs5 do with its regular power save modes and I don't want to look it up right now. But they do something.

This is something I want built into "stock" android. The average consumer should not have to unlock and root / custom kernel to tell their 2.3 ghz cpu that they don't want to run at that point of the power performance curve.

So a lot of things are actually going well and going in the right direction. But chips with such range and under full load they throttle in seconds with no user control of them is not one of them
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
And even amoled is getting better finally with the gs5.

But that's funny since the amoled fanboys have been claiming amoled was like super duper awesome and stuff on power for years. When the reality is it was garbage.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
And if anybody is interested Anand did a podcast today talking about a lot of the above stuff.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I'm starting to really want wp8.1 now. First I was indecisive (as usual), but I feel like Android still has some polishing up to do (aesthetically ie the video player) compared to ios and wp.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
As soon as I seen the 8.1 press coverage / embargo lift I thought to myself that Windows phone is finally a viable option in mobile.

It's still not for me but I don't have any problems anymore recommending them. And truth be told to the average consumer ( price not in the equation) I actually would recommend the newest Nokia.

Good screen. Good battery. It's fast. Puts other cameras to shame. Finally has a damn notification system that isn't stupid. Average consumer ( I'd argue nobody really) wants to have to look through tiles to see what set their phone off!

And they aren't screwing around with the low end devices either.

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Yay new camera app!

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Well played Google well played. In video mode there is a little animation telling you to turn the device into landscape. Well played

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Well played Google well played. In video mode there is a little animation telling you to turn the device into landscape. Well played
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Almayce:
Hey guys, I'm on kitkat trinity, (found in the posts here) and I'm facing a screen flickering. I left the values on stock, except vibrator. Any help? I didn't search the thread as I'm on tapatalk and I never got any results via this app. Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Nothing to see there, move on!

I used my l925 for a few days and switched back. Installed wp8.1 yesterday morning and not much changed. If you are Samsung user wp8.1 might suffice. But for a nexus user it is so limiting.

Disable HW overlays in development options and let us know if flickering is fixed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Almayce:
I disabled it, still flickers. I'm starting to think my phone is broken somehow. Either I get screen flickering or audio stuttering on different kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
How about stock ROM kernel. What ROM are you on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Come back to see the old timers eh? :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] omer7:
I m also using Trinity on stock ROM. Try interactive CPU governor, it may help.

On demand stutters a bit i think.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I always lurk around here. When I think I could be helpful I I say something.

Btw :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Audio stuttering is an aosp issue. About the flickering do you have the c1 sleep state enabled? Back in the 4.3 days I remember enabling forced gpu rendering and disabling hw overlays (or enabling (I don't remember but [MENTION=5029685]jonup[/MENTION] might)) fixed the issue also. Besides that.... Are you undervolting? Are you differing from the stock setup of the kernel? Eg like changing min/max cores, cpu frequencies, and or gpu frequencies? All this information might be vital in discovering the issues and solving it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Almayce:
Well so far I noticed audio stutters on cm based roms way more, not aosp. And like I stated I didn't change anything from stock settings except from vibrator(and I highly doubt it's the cause). Also trying to check HW overlays is always the first thing I try, almost never helps.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Cm Roms are going to have all kinds of issues because they are CAF based.

A while back people were making cm fix zips then cm version of the kernels or whatnot. So basically if the kernel isn't made for CM, you're going to have a bad time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I meant audio stuttering is Google's fault
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Illinois just leave this here
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Auto correct! Eh. I'll became Illinois. Ha
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tusing:
Can the Franco Kernel app be used to control features of this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I'll just leave this here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cool.darshak:
Can someone pls make it compatible with cm11 pls
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Cm would be the ones choosing to screw things up with their choices.

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cool.darshak:
What are you using
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Rastakat

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cool.darshak:
I was on rastakat only.. Had problem in Gmail could download any attachments so shifted to cm11..any solution?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
And you attributed that to the rom..?! :what:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
You should ask can someone make cm compatible with this...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Google glass running a omap 4 gets a kitkat update. Galaxy Nexus running one. Nope.

Good job Google. Not.

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And Yay for the one plus whatever one phone.

Those specs and 299 and 350. Another device to help bring the long overdue death of the 700 dollar phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dicksonjoe:
I have the miui 4.2. Will this work with it? thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
But then they would have to still skip the Gnex and have to give an explanation.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Well that's what they did.

Glass is running on a platform that is very close to Wifi only type galaxy Nexus. And it has kitkat.

Google needs to extend it's upgrade life for devices.

This 18 month to two year crap doesn't cut it anymore. These devices are getting much more powerful and therefore have a much longer useful life.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
But at the same time u want a new nexus every year but to be able to do it u gotta sell some nexus. If u have always the latest version more unlikely u will buy the next gen

sent from my diabetic Nexus 4 (too much KitKats)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
No.

People aren't leaving their old devices just to get the new OS.

At least up until now. Two years or so in smartphone game meant your device became frustratingly slow etc.

You aren't going to gain repeat consumers by cutting off updates to very capable devices just so sell a new device. You're going to do the opposite. You piss off your consumers doing it and they aren't going to want to get another device from you.

The market is different now than in the very recent past. The SoCs are much more powerful and therefore have a much longer useful life.

The short update policy with Android oems just is not going to cut it anymore.

Good luck convincing people that devices based on s4 pro / s600 / 800 etc aren't getting updated after 18 months essentially because we don't want to... Buy a new device from us instead.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] clockworkstop:
Anybody know what could be causing this? Had it show up since last month or so, thought I'd wait it out. Tried to install trickster and that's what happened.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2027663 ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Lichti rastakat Update

Sorry for the delay guys, was too lazy and busy yesterday :silly:

Changelog:

New battery options
battery and clock settings are back in build tweaks/statusbar where they belongs to
all code from chief @rascarlo merged

Dev Host Link

Android File Host Link

Have Fun and enjoy :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexuspur:
Will this kernel be updated soon or is the development been stopped?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm not sure what [MENTION=3644884]Vangelis13[/MENTION] link solution is, but delete \data\app-lib content reboot and try again.

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The kernel is still under development. But life got in the way of [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] lately so we haven't got an update from him in a hot minute.

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The kernel is still under development. But life got in the way of [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] lately so we haven't got an update from him in a hot minute.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yummy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Nice, now how where the hooters?

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
They were quite nice
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
So Al, what's your opinion of the new Google camera app?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hoochie_Coochie:
Giants causeway Northern Ireland, and also the dark hedgeway, used as the kings highway in Game of Thrones
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Huge step in the right direction. Just missing some of old functionality. I would like some more advanced options as well but we will see what comes in the future.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
I forgot who tore down the apk, I think it was Android Police. They had found references to older functionality being added back in. Specifically, take pics while recording video, and timer shots.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Running trinity again for a bit, disappointing not seeing any updates in a long while but its nice to remember why I love Trinity in the first place.

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lalo20:
There is a trinity kernel for KitKat? Is development stoped?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah...

..and not quite stopped but certainly has been placed on the back burner due to life.

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lalo20:
where i can find the KK builds (and changelogs)? i didnt see anything in oficial website
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
There is no changelog and I linked the KK kernel above

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
You still have a mako right? The hammerhead looks so tempting and the moto x is awesome in a different way too! But I know this year some monster changes are coming like 64 bit, armv8, and cortex-50 structured cores so I'm gonna wait. And I know the lg g3 , HTC m8, nexus 6 (nexus 5 2014?), and the moto x sequel will rock the smartphone world. I personally only feel the need to upgrade the battery and the camera from the nexus 4 otherwise I'm happy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah I'll probably be holding onto my mako for awhile the n5 looks like a hell of a phone but I also don't feel like I'm missing out by not having one. I'll likely be holding off till the next round of hardware.

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
My view. The only phones that interest me are the ones that launch with a new hardware platform. Every phone after it is just another s800 s801 and so on.

The only other exception is a nexus since they usually come with a new version of Android on them. The oem phones software is really of almost no interest to me.

It's just like the Pc space. When Intel launches a new platform that is what matters. Used to look forward to AMD is well but yeah.

Only other ways you excite me in mobile is when you shake things up somehow. Price. Front facing speakers. Make a camera that isn't 1.1 micron pixels

So I have some interest to see how the 805 does / whatever device launches first with it. Everything after it... Yawn.

The midrange and low end I find far more interesting. Oh I can get A B C for only X amount of money! As opposed the high end which is all the same platform in a different case basically.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dynasticorpheus:
Same here, currently running PSX and AK kernel. Performance wise I really don't know why I should update as my N4 has never been so smooth!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kocai:
If you want to upgrade, wait. It doesn't make sense to get a hammerhead now. I think it's better if you wait.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
First off, I'm still here. ;) the x64 phones won't be out till Q1 next year maybe later. The HH is tangibly better, but if you stuck around with the N4 so far, I wouldn't bother getting N5
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I got the mako really late in the game (June 2013) but I don't really regret my decision
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Same here. I bought it about a month before it went on sale. My HD2 digitizer had finally died for like the 3rd time. At that point there was no need to fix a 4 year old phone, no matter how good it was.

The N4 is still going strong for me.

I'll upgrade to what ever is released this year, but probably around Jan '15.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
I see magic numbers and no post from [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION]

Hmmm [emoji16]

Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I most likely will skip the next refresh as well.

And after that next device it most likely will be my last until that either breaks or gets lost or something.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whisper13:
I miss this thread :/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Bob Saget! I just rooted my stock nexus S last night. Today I see there is a update for it. Of all the days....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
probably the heart bleed fix if that is necessary to you
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anshumandash:
Google camera updated

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-photo-capture-while-recording-video-returns/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Been a while since I've run Trinity and Rastakat. Even though there's been no update in ages, this kernel with this ROM is still the combo to beat on mako IMO.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
The app store. Derp.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Don't see the derp
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
You need to download two seperate apps just to edit Sheets and Docs now. It's so stupid.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
"also available in the app store " = Derp.

It's play store.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
Haha, and there's that. Well spotted.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Yeah I guess it's a little clunky but it also might streamline the cloud process. For example, the Google drive app is currently used to control docs, spreadsheets, etc, but how about the other files that are stored in the cloud like music and pictures. You can't use Google drive to control that. Eventually I hope it gets to the point whenever you click a document it switches you over to the docs app seamlessly. Whenever you touch a picture you get transferred to the picture app, the new cloud one not the older purple pink picture frame one. Same for everything else. You would only need apps for what is in your cloud. Also those apps are also standalone apps that maybe could sync local files with the cloud. This is the future of cloud, and it may seem bad now but once the full vision is carried out it'll make sense.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Lol. Good call!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Well they did fix that Derp. Checked it just now and it says Google Play Store.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
aye.. i missed a whole bunch of 666's :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I wonder if Hugo is enjoying his new a job at a blatant apple rip off company
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rickbosch:
I have been wondering the same thing. It's insane.

sent via mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Xiaomi? I like the company.... Anything you find wrong with it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Ah I see the xiaomi tablet looks similar to the iPad mini and the miui looks like iOS 7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Similar is a understatement.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Ummmm... Link to the latest 4.4 kernel for mako? I checked the op but this it's not linked there
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52350393

(PSK for life? Guess PSK may be taking a vacation soon.)

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Cool hubble picture with simms number

Sent from my Nexus 4

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Sent from my Nexus 4

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/p...t0q4&sview=2&cid=5&soc-app=115&soc-platform=1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
thanks, for the second time :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Happy Weekend Update

:cool:

Changelog:

[COLOR="Olive"]Peek wakeup timeout[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Olive"]Wakelock blocker[/COLOR] Thanks @snak3ater - i picked the commits from you ;)

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Lockscreen blur, lockscreen enable power menu, Quiet hours, appops - apps permissions - wakelock blocker[/COLOR] now also in Lichti addons :D

[U]Kicked out:[/U] [COLOR="Red"]Lockscreen maximize widgets, lockscreen always show battery[/COLOR]

Dev Host Link

Android File Host Link​

Happy flashing and a chilled weekend :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
How does the z compare to the one?

Also what is this wakelock blocker you are talking about and where is you add on folder so I can download it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
wakelock blocker..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Here is my addon folder ;)

And i already traded the Z2 for an S5.

The S5 goes straight to my gf as a birthday present.

Z2 was too unhandy, too flat feeling, too sharp edges and too big for me. The rest was good, cam, build quality, ... A few lags here and there, ...

What tells us the story?

Nothing can beat a Nexus. >:)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Why did you get rid of the One?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
The metal stripe above the screen (with front cam) does not fit on the right side. I think the glue was bad or something like that.

I'll post a pic that you can see it.

But the biggest problem that annoyed me was the data issue i had, signal was full, not matter if 3G, H or 4G, sometimes no data incomming,

A example: surfing tapatalk, click for the next site and it takes ages to load (with full signal).

That peoblem was with every custom rom i've tried.

The rest, Feel look and especially the sound was amazing :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
Can someone link me a Trinity kernel with 2.05ghz/487mhzGpuOC/Voltage control from 4.3? I've found one that has 2.05ghz/533mhz GPU but the GPU OC doesn't work and found one with 487mhz/2.05ghz but no voltage. I forgot what these kernels were called, but hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about :o.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Search Apollyon.

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Good God! Not appolyon! Mother of all kernels haha
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Try this one. I found it on my phone so I have no clue what it has, but it is Apollyon.

Edit: I forgot to post the link https://www.dropbox.com/s/zcs5hwfsynx4w2e/Trinity-Four-Apollyon-4.3-ANY_wwz.zip
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
This is going to lead a nap.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Oh man, you gotta love Texas! :good: I had BBQ for lunch twice this week, don't ask me how hard it was to work afterwards.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Wait [MENTION=673072]albundy[/MENTION] AND [MENTION=1122306]morfic[/MENTION] live in Texas!?!? DFW Grand Prairie area here
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Fun fact: they actually are father and son.

accelerated [mako]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Lol :sly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Morfic does, I don't.

I never even stepped foot in that state
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Sorry that you love in Mavericks country.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Do you live in San Antonio? Personally I want the spurs to go all the way so the mavericks don't look bad :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Anybody have any experience with the Nokia fatboy wireless charger and the nexus 4?

I picked some up the other day for <5 bucks. I see a different Nokia charger is finicky with the 4.

Even if it isn't good with the 4, there is the 7 and 5 that will be used with them
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
The nexus 4 has bad wireless charging. Well so I read somewhere.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
It works fine with other chargers like the energizer power mat that was popular when it launched. The nexus orb worked.

I also recall people having issues with nokia ones. Not nexus users just in general.

I'll find out. I got 3 working Nexus is with wireless charging capabilities and a dead 4 too.

If it sucks oh well. Got two for less than 10 bucks.

I'll use them on the other devices or just sell them and make money off it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Hardware revision 12 (iirc, could be HW13) fixed the issue with the original Nokia charger.

Edit: its HW12 that fixes the issue with the Nokia DT 900.

Also iirc, the "issues" with DT900 was when it got to 100% it wouldn't turn off and keeps overcharging getting the phone pretty hot.