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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Trinity n5 test kernel you say? I'm there! :D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vortex1969:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION]

Is there a way to disable fsync with su Or file manager for the T5-4.4-B5 kernel.

Thanks

PSX for Nexus 5 under the hood
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no, morfic hasnt exposed fsync in trinity yet.

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:eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
I checked the OT for the latest 4.4 release but all the links there point to older 4.2/4.3 kernel releases. Is there any link pointing to the 4.4 beta/stable releases? Also I'd like to join the beta testing program if there is one. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47706632

I LOVE MY SLUTTY N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
Best quadrant score for me. PSX v1 with moto x dalvik optimizations and latest Trinity!

Pretty good. Not even close to your n5 Simms.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
heres the 4.4 trinity kernel, TF2 http://goo.gl/3ptCPZ

youre in the trinity thread, so youre automagically in the beta testing program :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maverick_hunter:
How'd you get your signal bar to say LTE instead of 4G?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aashrey99:
Isn't there a place where I can check for updates to the Trinity kernel? Or does it work like this here, I ask you tell?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
ill usually post them here, or my g+/twitter. if you cant find them in the thread, just ask, someone will point you to the right path, or ill reply with the test kernel. official releases go to derkernel.com :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Nothing on the N5 front? :p

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Vertigo & crashes.. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
PSX feature.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
n5 trinity test kernel B5 http://goo.gl/3R2BJy
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
Since all this messed up thing about jwr and jss ended... Im back to trinity!(gonna flash tonight) [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] tf2 is still the latest right? Can i use fauxclock app?

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting Kitkat for the first time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yup, tf2. fauxclock app, i have no idea, i dont use it.

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new trinity nexus 5 thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47774903#post47774903
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
Still working fantastically. Battery life is phenomenal. Must point out that, for me, ondemand actually isn't as smooth as say, interactive/conservative. Especially when scrolling through certain apps, such as Google Play Music and XDA. Whereas, the latter 2 governors give much better performance. I did try tweaking ondemand, but nothing seemed to smooth-en things out. I'm currently on conservative and it's wonderfully smooth. I was able to squeeze out 5hr+ on screen time over 1 day of usage. Very pleased indeed. Keep up the great work!! :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Hello! :p

(Hint: how many mentions of the tf91 are there in the last pages? Exactly. Too smooth, we need something unstable to keep us on our toes..)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superbobup:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ha I see what you did there :p

I just hopped on 91g after being stuck on 68 for a long time. Seemed like 91g got much hotter than 68 so I tried 90g. Still seemed hotter. I'm just basing this off holding the phone and using it; can't say anything about actual numbers since I didn't use the temp widget for either

Edit: admittedly, I've only been on 90g for half of today and was on 91g since two nights ago
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] robs898:
Interesting I find conservative most laggy. I have to use ondemand to get smoothness.

Not seeing much improvement with overclocking/underclocking atm... underclocking didn't seem to help battery too much (not a long test though).

The I/O schedulers don't have a large difference either so I'm using row or deadline.

Interested to hear from others that might have done more extensive testing! :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
It is strange, isn't it. I know ondemand (or this version of it) was tweaked to 'perfection' by morfic and it SHOULD work well. Default or tweaked, it just makes many apps that is use jutter a lot. Scrolling just isn't as smooth. It's weird because I know a lot of people use it as their default (and it is set as the default governor). I wish I knew why it's giving me troubles.

I had to tweak conservative a bit, but I definitely found the sweet spot with it. Nice 'n smooth + good battery life.

If anyone has any ideas at all about my ondemand woes, be sure to throw them my way. I'm assuming that it's doubtful that a full wipe is going to help, so unless somebody wholeheartedly recommends it, I won't bother.

Thanks again for 91g. Lovely stuff!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
settings for conservative?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
384MHz-1512MHz + conservative + cfq

up_threshold: 70, down_threshold: 20, sampling rate: 20000, sampling_down_factor: 2, freq_step: 5, Fsync: ON, Read Ahead: 2048 KB

UV -125mV per freq
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] meangreenie:
ondemand..

down_differential 30 or 50

up_threshold 70

note, newer ondemand settings have 3 up_threshold type settings, set them all to 70

this give smooth performance and great battery, the key is the down_differential setting... i think it's been miscoded or it's usage description chinglished somewhere... because my numbers make no sense according to it's usage description.

try it, you will be shocked.

edit..

io_busy and ignore_nice_load seem better both set to 0, but i can't quite decide on them yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
Many thanks for the reply. I only have three options for ondemand governor in TKT app: up_threshold, sampling_rate and sampling_down_factor.

Am I missing something, or do I need to tweak those settings elsewhere?

EDIT: I found the down_differential file and manually tweaked it and will proceed to try and get the most out of ondemand. Many thanks for assisting!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SupWiz17:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm with you. Ondemand has just a little bit of lag for me. Ondemand also gets me the best battery life. Interactive is very smooth and if I adjust the sampling down factor for ondemand I can smooth everything out but my screen on battery time seems to go down. I need to keep playing with the governors and find the best balance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Ugh feels way too much like min/maxing to tweak all of that. Glad people are doing it. Will probably give morfic some ideas for the values set to implement as default in the future. Don't mean to sound lazy benefiting from someone else's work but when I sit and tweak my phone all my little free time flies by! I'm trying out on demand at 1184 or whatever the step is and 384 minimum to see if I can get over 5 hours on screen with normal usage on mobile. So far it is very fast. With this phone I always force GPU 2d rendering. Seems to make things like PDFs much smoother. Would this have a positive or negative effect on battery? I always understood that for graphical tasks the GPU is more efficient at handling those processes as its just brute number crunching while using software with CPU is less efficient? Someone please set me straight.

Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 309041291a:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

MUST.TRY.CONSERVATIVE.NOW.

Sent from my Trinity powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JeanEatsWorld:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I don't understand why but with paranoid I can rich just 10 hours with 3 of screen on..

On-demand, no tricks, stock settings, always 3g but with nfc, gps and Wi-Fi on. Normal use.. just music a couple of hours, xda, greader, chrome, no games, texting with sms, whatsapp and Facebook app..auto brightness...

I'm little disappointed with the battery duration actually...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

I'm using the default on demand and battery life and performance is amazing ... on 91l bionic rasbeanjelly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

3g data connection? 10hrs stand by with 3 hrs screen on is good. Even with wifi, that's perhaps acceptable depending on what you have running in the background + how signal reception is in your area..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
I've been on Paranoid since day one. They did have a nasty wakelock bug that was fixed in their most recent release. Never had battery issues using 91g + conservative. See my recent posts for further details. I use mobile data almost always, sync everything, almost full brightness, Maps and Google now. I also stream using Google Music. Definitely not a PA problem.

Use betterbatterystats if you're really losing your head over the issue. :cyclops:

P.S. I can't really recommend Facebook app and it's known to be a battery draining app (or it has been in the past). I would recommend Friendcaster over any other Facebook app out there. Zero effect on battery life. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

The power is there, just gotta work on fluidity and smoothness! :)

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
You said it better, with fewer words used. :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
what phones did you own before this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JeanEatsWorld:
Re: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

Galaxy nexus with your kernel.. and actually I don't know why but I had better battery life than 10 hours...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Looks like N5 thread is off the ground! B8 there though?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
right, b8 is the latest n5 kernel. b8 is posted in the op. it maxes at 3014mhz(but i bet you cant run). 2880mhz is perfectly stable for me though :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
Are the moto X optimizations in the ROM already, or is it a flashable? If it's a flashable, could you link me to it? Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47631545&postcount=1961

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting Kitkat for the first time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
More like 6 or 7 posts lol. ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
Yea lol I know, stupid tapatalk had a seizure or something

Sent from PSX
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
OK I'm back . I clicked on simms link and must've gone through a wormhole or something cause I ended up in the n5 trinity thread.lol!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Challenge accepted!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
oops ;)

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the furthest i got with 3014mhz was the 8/8 test in quadrant. goid luck :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
I get the exact same graphics scores on benchmarks with both 320 and 533 gpu frequency so I'm guessing 533 isn't working can you re implement 487mhz?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I honestly don't even think 487 helps. Maybe in a placebo kind of way I suppose.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SHiFT!:
Add in next version 1836-1944 cpu freqs and 450-600 gpu freqs, please
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Again the GPU "OCs" really do nothing on the n4. I'm not sure it is possible to get working.

Wouldn't mind getting the CPU OCs back though

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] handols:
Latest Trinity on 4.4 1.7 + art is really flying. Is it advisable to use this frequency as daily driver?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
I've ran old trinity kernels at 1836 max 4cores online for months as my daily.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
I have done heaps of benchmarks using neo kernel comparing 400 and 487 and I get significantly better results ever time with 487
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whisper13:
Is there a new supersu zip? 1.7ish? :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

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I'm no expert and I'll leave it to the more knowledgeable among us for a good answer. I do know it is a really tricky thing to successfully pull off though.

...and here's a post by simms with a little gpu talk..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
Haha well as soon as I try to set 3014 I got an immediate reboot lol.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Omygerd it's cold! Woke up to 25 degrees and 40 mph wind! And wed it'll be 70
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
try adjusting the voltage

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high of 29F here today too, with those 40mph winds :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Unfortunately, too busy doing this
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its only several degrees warmer here
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
I'm not "in loco", but pretty much doing the same :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
No, I mean I was there. Lions suck, though
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Thats what I said, I wanst in place like you, but I was watching a game too.

Btw, this is why I love Trinity!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
This is what a real nexii battery life should look like. [MENTION=244773]Vangelis[/MENTION]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] M3drvr:
I laugh at your 24 degree talk. You southerners are such wussies! Sometimes when walking home my CPU even at 1.7 is running below 0 C. I can OC all day in that and not pass 20C. So please, bring on the OC on this kernel!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Sunrise and sunset 12am......
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
We get sucked in every year though, don't we? 5 turnovers ugh.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] johnb380:
Don't feel bad I'm a Cleveland Browns fan!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] M3drvr:
The sun doesn't really come out this time of year.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
I just made the most amazing discovery!!! The iPhone has an actual user accessible recovery !!!!!!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
U mean DFU mode? Or an actual recovery as we have on android?

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting Kitkat for the first time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Yeah I know. That sucks.

I'm surprised there is even cell coverage up that far north.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Oh.

My.

Gawd..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Probably more like dfu mode whatever it is, the iTunes crapware said it was iPhone recovery. But nothing beats s nexus :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] C4SCA:
If its DFU u are talking about... Thats not new. Thats how u recover from installing a bad cydia tweak that makes ur iphone bootloop for example... Its like bootloader mode but just plug and itunes pops up saying u need to restore and it does everything for u. Its pretty usefull actually

(Im was ipod touch owner)

sent from my NEXUS 4 tasting Kitkat for the first time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] M3drvr:
We got amazing cell phone coverage. 2 towers for a town of 400. 2 different carriers. HSPA typical download speeds of 30-35Mbps. Even higher at times. But the great part is the phone never heats up when using it outside. Hell I've seen the CPU report -22 one time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Oil rig town?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tonyreimer:
It warmed up to 1c today. With a wind. Saturday morn saw a -34c wind chill
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
brr.. :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Detailed:
320mhz shows lower scores than the broken 533mhz freq. (I assume it's @ 400mhz). On the attachments you'll see the difference between the 320mhz freq. and the broken 533mhz freq. I also added an old screenshot running the same benchmark on 4.3 (I think it's Rasta or PSX + Neo @ 487mhz GPU freq). All the tests were ran @ 1512/1512mhz CPU, perf gov. and 4/4 hotplugged. Sorry if this was out of the blue and off-topic, haven't actively kept up with the thread in a while D: Hopefully this helps with the GPU OC Development.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] M3drvr:
No not at all. Just a community. Mostly a hub to stop for exploration of the Canadian north.

-30 this morning. feels like -45 with the wind. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Something in 4.3 had changed and was not noticed until I calculated a few new frequencies and Semeon's phone wouldn't crash to start and all benches matched 400.

That was just recently, haven't had time to revisit that, going to be a pain doing it remotely over Semeon's N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] I keep forgetting to share this with you. Scratch the zero!

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You need to move.:p. to a warmer place!

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You need to move.:p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
no thanks for you until xda gives my 8 thanks back :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I'm not doing this for thanks. Glad you enjoyed it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i didnt say you were. im saying that i cant willingly, and full of wanting, add another thanks point to your xda permanent record ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] carepack:
Link to latest version?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
TF2 http://goo.gl/3ptCPZ
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Tapatalk, xda app. You don't want to thank me that bad, you just want to earn your thanks. :p

Buddy, do you know any one that will be willing to look into stock kernel for Optimus L9 P769 and do a bit of optimizing. Since my brother will be getting my N4 I want to play with his L9. I haven't been around their forum but last I checked that forum wasn't very busy. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i think thanking you in person, personally, is bounds past installing a stupid app to press a stupid button on xda to an imaginary thanks on xda :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
You're leaving!!!! Sad days are coming.......
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Lol everyone's going to n5 land.

I'll get there eventually and lurk in the meantime.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
:p

My brother lives a mile away. I'll be playing with the N4 on a regular basis. Besides the guys that are left here are the once I get along the most.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I ain't going nowhere. So you get to read my general complaining and rants!

For all those didn't catch the Android police thing about app ops today go check that out. It's lives hidden in 4.4 and now has a keep awake permission!

I am looking forward to this thing being finished up and released in a future version of Android. Hopefully built right into the current settings / apps set up. Or if it changes the future home of app settings. As long as it's all in the same location.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Now that [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] has a N5 he can let you borrow hi N4. Or I just got a notice that my N5 has shipped so you can have mine for a week or so. Let me know and I will ship it your way.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ishtakh:
Us N4 users don't have that option
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Oh ... sorry :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sturdy_99:
otg

Does 4.4 kernel support otg?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stark_br:
Nativelly it doesnt.

But check this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2181820
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Titanium backup has art support now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
rastakat nexus 5(w/the moto x dalvik) + trinity at 2880/2880, including the fps unlock.. :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Xmaster8:
Nice. Especially that CPU and 3D scores are of the charts :D

My N4 high is 10 721...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
It's being hard to resist temptation. Can you run an Antutu benchmark?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i can, but at higher frequencies it gets too hot, even if left in the freezer for a while. at 2.4ghz, i got this 37500. and a geekbench too..

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just beat my own antutu score, at 2419mhz. and a linpack at 2880mhz..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
How did you get 3d so high? V-sync off?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Yeah he cheated a bit from the looks of it. ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
And you haven't even blocked the ads. Respect.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] morfic:
Thank god for page numbers, else I wouldn't know if I'm in trinity four or trinity five thread these days
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
Same here. I keep opening the wrong thread. [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] don't help either.:p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Everything done is a cheat

I love how turning off vsync is a big bad no no, but turning off thermal throttling is just the norm. And not a "cheat"
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Its all subjective really.

I never use thermal throttle, fsync, typically run at 4 cores when on trinity those are mostly my day to day settings then lock in min/max and go at it.

The vsync thing isn't usable and inflates the hell out of benches. Is it cheating for a higher score? Not really but with it on it evens the playground a bit.

Idk I'm just rambling and I know you don't like benches anyways.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
I have my thermal throttle off at all times; my screen can only render 60fps.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
I do like benchmarks. They are a tool

Doesn't mean I approve of how they are used.

I used a wrench today to remove a car battery. If I used to wrench to pick my nose....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmtjr278:
PSX V2 and Trinity! Welcome to the 11k club!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Good job, if you really want a challenge you can try to join those of us in the 12k club now.

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