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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
OT

How do you download apps which are supposedly not suitable for your phone from Google Play?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
You use a multi-DPI Play Store ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
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Thanks. Looking now :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
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I always use the same setup regardless of kernel. Min 384 max 1242, ondemand/row read ahead 512. Never caused an issue on any other release. Bad download, perhaps?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
theres always tf105

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38203605&postcount=5015
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
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Been running 105 since you posted it. Still getting more idle drain then the 4.2.1 releases.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
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No Simms, this is what would happen if it was marked with an apple :p

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
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Yeah, as if we didn't destroy 5000000 f5 keys globally and didn't clogg servers that are virtually un-cloggable on a couple certain nights a couple of months ago.. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
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Eh. I doubt it. I would just reflash it, wipe cache, and fix permissions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
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This was me...

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Smallsmx3:
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Does this work with CM?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Yes, as per the first post in the OP

Stock/AOSP + CM : http://www.derkernel.com/mako.php
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Had a interesting questions......

I know my laptop has CPU boost, and Faux seems to have mimicked the concept for a quick "boost" of OC for a few cores for a quick period. Is such an idea even ideal for a battery based set-up when 1.5Ghz is plenty fast?? Seems a lol unnecessary to me and a battery drainer but I wanted other's opinion......

Quoted:

"Introducing my Turbo Boost, Exclusively for Nexus 4 kernel which allows for up to 1.944 GHz turbo frequencies when only a few cores are active.

Why bother with this Turbo Boost? Well, multi-core is great but the apps have to be written using multi-thread techniques in order take advantage of them. Multi-threading is HARD! Many apps are still written with single thread of execution.. This is where Turbo Boost comes in. With Turbo Boost, it will increase the performance of the Single Threaded apps and may even save battery (because tasks gets done quickly and then RACE to Idle faster!)"
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
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Yesterday was my first time using Trinity kernel (ever!). I have to say that idle does drain a lot. I hope the next release will fix that. I'm sure that's the goal.

Aside from the drainage, this kernel is quite the same as Franco's work. I'm talking about battery life and performance. I might try Trinity on my Nexus 7 and see how it goes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Which version did you try? TF104+ all drain a lot when idle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
From my experiences Trinity is the fastest and most lag free kernel that I have personally tried. Very comparable to stock. Franco's is fairly lag free as well but I found that Trinity ran a little smoother on my device.

Try out TF97 on a 4.2.1 ROM, that kernel was flawless. Still some kinks need to be worked out with the 4.2.2 based kernels, but just minor at the moment.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
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I had one of those 104+ ones. I don't remember since I flashed back to Franco's. But I'll be back when the idle drain is gone. I'm on 4.2.2 so I didn't think it would be a good idea to use 97.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
TF97 should work fine on 4.2.2.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] io53:
Multi-threading is actiually not hard at all, quite the opposite. You're right that not that many uses it, but then again most apps dosent even need it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bradm23:
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Cool app, going to give it a try. Did you add maps to the list also? Seems like only actively running apps out shows is BBS and maps
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
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Yea I added maps although it restarts itself, the dev is working on a solution to make it hibernate permanently.

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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sure?

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF105
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
yes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
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The app is great. I can finally use the official Facebook app instead of those alternatives. Lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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I don't remember if tf97 had gamma control? tf105 is a good but is battery sucker

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF105
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
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It does. I'm running 97 on a 4.2.2 ROM without any issues :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i posted tf98 last night..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
The Ubuntu Touch Developer preview is available for download for anyone wanting to test on their Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

Flashable zips and instructions as per brenix over in the Ubuntu Phone OS forum. Link to his post will be posted below:

Flashing Instructions:

1. Download quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip from: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/

2. Push files to sdcard

3. Reboot into recovery

4. Flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip

5. Flash quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip

6. Reboot and enjoy

P.S.: This method retains CWM recovery.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38292176&postcount=421
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
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Even on the .48 radio?

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
should be fine. you can always try ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
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For that you might need to install the sensors fix
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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tf98 has the reboot bug after changing gammas

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF105
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
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I'll stock with harsh till we have a stable Trinity.

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
THANK YOU!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
funny, i havent had one reboot with it. clear the data from the tkt app and try again.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
No problemo, just passing along the info I found, I take no credit :good::p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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gonna try after my children will be to bed.my ears are gonna explode....

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF105
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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they are in their bed ! now it's time for crackers without 18 months boy crying or shouting and his 4 years old sister saying 100 words by seconds. keep cool man....that's what I say to myself all the day long...please God help me ( even if Simms and Morfic are Nexus Gods, I think they can't help me)

And now my wife tells me to stop playing with my phone. *crying*

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF98
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
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2nd cycle with 97...I can't seem to drain my battery lol

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lownita:
Hehehe feeling with you mate :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
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I see that memedroid :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
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That app is awesome!

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] androidjack5:
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97 the best i don't wanna try any one. Great kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
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Here I'm in the same ballpark as both of you on 101 and I got stuck in a boot loop for a while in the morning with today's update of Carbon. If not for the bootloop I'll be at 55+% right now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
That's what I was thinking, if an app is coded properly, it will use 4 cores if it uses 2 (multi core is multi core, if the app is threaded properly, there should be no issue). Hence my question, as its pretty much useless on my laptop (Intel's version of it)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shubu000:
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This is something that I want to ask for a while... What's the deal with PUB builds? What does it stand for/do?

Just got my mako last week....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
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PROJECT UNICORN BUTTER
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
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Special optimizations the ROM for smoothness
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
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AOKP have merged the krait optimizations themselves now. Although PUB still has other optimizations such as the toolchain etc. But AOKP should have a nice boost to it.

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
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So these PUB builds are just regular AOKP but with special customizations? Are there any other additions that regular AOKP doesn't have?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trismegistos:
no other additions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
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Try it. Its silky smooth
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
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I will eventually check it out then. Just really enjoying Paranoid Android right now. What kernel comes stock with that ROM do you know?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
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Faux enhanced stock
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
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Ok thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
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Wow.... 5 hours of silence on this thread has got to be a record :D

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Could of been longer :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlear3:
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That's not what she said.

Nexus 4

ATT Straight Talk $45/mo

running xylon nightlies 4.2.2 franco r83

^(subject to change often)^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shubu000:
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Another quick one, are the krait optimizations may on aokp PUB? Or others have it too? I'm on carbon right now...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jayrod1980:
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I apologize for being off topic but why would you have to flash the sensor fix? If you update to the 4.2.2 boot loader and keep the old radio you are OK... But if you flash the new radio you are not? What causes the sensors to cease working?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Carbon has also the Krait stuff :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] allgsmnetwork:
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Before alpha? Mmmmmmm:D

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
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Really? I didn't know that...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Yes, look at their github :o

https://github.com/CarbonDev/android_bionic/commits/jb2

https://github.com/CarbonDev/android_device_lge_mako/commits/jb2

Has anybody a flashable zip with new bootloader?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eep2378:
SaberMod does too :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
AW: [DER KERNEL] Trinity Four

http://www.mediafire.com/?89547wngqsk79qr
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
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Here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
Thanks guys :cool:

@pa.pn2 i have edited my answer before with links to their github with the bionic and krait commits :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
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I flashed just the new bootloader

Went back to previous modem.33 cause I hade problems with voice quality while using the phone... And I was too noisy my gf said... Lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apatal:
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Lol. Usually, that conversation goes the other way around. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pac213:
Lol this made me laugh lol. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
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Lol sorry. i meant quietly not noisy hrhrrhrhrh
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
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I am experiencing some random reboots with TF97 since few days.

What can I do to solve this? Maybe re-flash the kernel and wipe cache/dalvik cache can help?

These are my CPU settings: (too much UV maybe?)

Sorry for the noob question =)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
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What rom are you on? TF97 is very stable, it could be the rom..

Edit: well, if you uv'd too much rom isn't the issue..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
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I edited the previous post with my CPU settings ;)

Btw I am on xenonHD ROM.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lichti1901:
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Dont UV! And you should be good :rolleyes:

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] smarki:
Well, I guess you UVed too much. I have a 'faster' binned chip, and I UV less than you do (although it impacts the camera sensors so I usually revert it). If you stil want to UV, try these values (but remember its different with different handsets):

384-750

486-750

594-760

702-775

810-795

918-825

1026-855

1134-885

1242-920

1350-935

1458-952

1512-980
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] azrash:
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CM Linaro + Bionic by trailblazer has them too! :P

Flowed from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
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A lot of Roms have them now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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tf98 drains more battery than tf97

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF98
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Logi_Ca1:
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I only have a fast binned chip but my UV is lower than yours (1458@887 for example) and it's perfectly stable. Makes me wonder if my UV is actually sticking.

On a related note, is it possible to lower the minimum voltage? 384 and 486 can definitely go below 750...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Last Second:
4.22 has worser UV-ablities than 4.21 ! much worser, I think this is not only kernel related.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] a1981m:
Hi, quick question.

I'm running xenon HD ROM with TF 3.4.0 from Feb 2nd and I'm getting great battery life.

Now, I want to change the ROM to a 4.2.2 one, the question is if my current kernel version support 4.2.2?

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
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4.2.1 kernel will work just fine with 4.2.2 ROM. But if you search the thread you will notice some unofficial 4.2.2 versions of the kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
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What's the best way to figure out if I have a fast bin chip? Just overclock until I see a red led? Haha

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
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I think this can help you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2052496

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
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This won't be an indication. Normal chips tend to oc at least as well as fast and faster ones.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
^^ what he said. binning of CPU is mainly towards Undervolting
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
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That makes me feel a little better. Haha. Just found out my chip is normal.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i have a nominal chip, and it overclocks like crazy, without seeing red lights :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
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Yes I was gonna include that in my post but got distracted with work. You and I don't rlod until we hit 1944MHz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
this phone hasnt rlod yet, not even at 1944. the first n4 that i had, the one i exchanged after 1 day because the sim card wasnt being read, it had red light of death right away, and it was a faster chip.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
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Muhahaha. I'm actually happy I got a normal chip now. The closest I have my setup to Simms, the better!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaper000:
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You both make me sick. :D Me and my faster- binned phone whose idea of "overclock" is probably tiptoeing anything over 1ghz.

Whoa, Nelly....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
i have a theory about that red light of scaring you to death, it seems that rev10 phones get it more often then rev11 phones. i actually havent seen a rev11 phone get it(at least no one has told me that they have a rev11 phone at least when they it happened).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
possible that lg changed something with the battery then, after lots of rmas with rev10

i had rev10 and an rlod, without even benching lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atxbang56:
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I have a rev11 and already had a rlod

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus 4

Phone : Google Nexus 4

ROM : AOKP Pub (Android 4.2.2)

Kernel : Trinity TF98
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
there goes my theory :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
Rev10 here and have never had an rlod.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Rev. 11 over here. No RLOD.

Now we are all doomed to get an RLOD ;)!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
haha.would have been nice^^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Rev 10 no RLOD but I never OC'd so that probably has to do with it :p

dont feel the need to OC (for me personally)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
did a benchmark some minutes ago with latest aokp pub-Trinity TF105

setup: 1512 mhz min/max ondemand-deadline fysnc off

i just got a score nearly to 19000

any idea why so low?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
Thermal throttling maybe?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
at 1512 already?i dont know.im inside my room,but its not that warm here lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Crimsonthunder:
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Yeah this could also happen on 1512mhz.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
ok.so if benching i should go outside?

its fuking cold here, -5 degrees...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
did you benchmark 1512/1512(high cpu/low cpu)? if not, youre letting it scale. if it scales, you dont know what actual cpu speed youre benchmarking.

---------- Post added at 02:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:18 PM ----------

you can disable thermal throttle via terminal emulator..

su(press enter)

echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)

N to turn it off, Y to turn it on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
yes min 1512,max 1512
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you can disable thermal throttle via terminal emulator..

su(press enter)

echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)

N to turn it off, Y to turn it on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Hi,

Why set the min / max CPU freq at the same freq?

Since during a benchmark the CPU is stressed properly, so at the highest CPU freq (according to the CPU freq set by the user).

I have almost the same scores in different benchmarks with the same min / max CPU freq, 1.51 Ghz / 1.51 Ghz, than with at 384 Mhz min / 1.51 Ghz max... (according to the normal fluctuation between two different runs, same thing if I set the same min / max CPU freq). The difference of score between the same min / max CPU freq and a different min / max CPU freq isn't noticiable, at least for me.

And when I run a bench I check the CPU freq in System Tuner: all the cores are online and at the max CPU freq I chose (no scaling or just a very little between two phase of the bench, for example when the bench goes to the 3D test from the CPU test but it's imperfectible). If I set my min CPU freq at 384 Mhz during a bench the four cores are running at 1.51 Ghz...

Just a question...

:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
isnt disabling throtteling dangerous?dont want another RLOD hehe
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
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It's fine for a short period of time ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
many times the cpu isnt stressed properly. when i bench at 1728/384, i get a wide variance of scores, some benchmark tests are better than others with stressing the cpu to the max btw. its always good idea to benchmark the same way every time, so i always bench at max cpu speed/max cpu spped for consistent results.

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to someone its dangerous, to someone else its fun :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
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Isnt there an option to raise the throtteling start temp?

At which temp does it start with Trinity? 70 degrees?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stefa.:
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Same here =)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
honestly, i dont remember the temp that thermal throttle kicks in with trinity. but, morfic did raise it from the stock value.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonup:
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Have you tried benching it @ 1944MHz?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
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Thx for the headsup anyway:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] naveediftikhar:
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Now why on earth would u wanna do that..i mean even if that does results in rlod.. what would it achieve.. I am not against bench making but come on over clocking to 1944 just to bench mark is just plain over the top..! Just remember all chips behave differently so ones over clock would not work for the other.. and not to mention it can also damage your phone permanently!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
just for the fun of it. just like climbing a mountain or jumping out of a plane can damage me permanently ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
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And adrenaline. :)