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[Ubuntu Touch General] liawim:
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/25/ubuntu-smartphone-will-launch-without-app-store/

No appstore indeed....
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
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Who gives two ****s about an App store?! It's not an Update for Android that you have to take, you have the choice to install it or not, don't like the no-app-store thing on release? Don't install it, wait until later.
[Ubuntu Touch General] sternas:
Linux ARM, NO need AppStore and all these bull***

applications are in the OS package update System

And if Canonical make another "closed" Linux Distributions (Ubuntu Phone OS)

ArchLinux ARM (Rolling Distribution) info is on the way...with "mach 10" speed...

Canonical make serious mistakes to the Desktop Area.

The big problem are Phone manufactures, lost in their own space...

The first company that releases high-end phone with "classic" Linux OS for arm,

will get the market and all the money...

but we will see...
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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Facepalm.jpg

But what i said still applies the guy said it wouldn't have 1 but he made it sound like there's not gonna be 1 there is gonna be 1 it just won't launch with it

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
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In the release there won't be. But judging by your device by the time you get Ubuntu it'll have one, so why are you worried?
[Ubuntu Touch General] Sparx639:
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If it can work with the Ubuntu os better than android, then epic win :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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Exactly!!

I think its safe to say that that's a big YES!

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Dav0:
Greetings to all on this New Year!!!(Almost late!)

Hello people.

Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra devices like my Atrix, and other ARM devices.

Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100

This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package

https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra

And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/re...antal/release/

They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...

It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.

Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] scottspa74:
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Very excited for this. !!
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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You do realize this forum is about the ubuntu phone OS the gesture based operating system canonical is developing which isn't yet released and not about installing the PC OS on our phones right

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[Ubuntu Touch General] Psionfenix:
Ubuntu on your phone is not the same thing as the UBUNTU PHONE OS.

Come on people, read a little bit.
[Ubuntu Touch General] bbrad:
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I can't wait for I will be installing it it looks amazing to me
[Ubuntu Touch General] gesange:
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I think that for ubuntu users this OS will be a Win.

But there is something that bothers me.........because Ubuntu OS rolls out and so do Mozilla OS and my question is.......which of them both will be better?

I know that Android and iOS are powerful but as we all know that they grown fast.......so maybe we could se iOS and even Android surpassed by those newcommers.

Just a thought
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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Firefox is not going to take off reason being that I don't like it lol jk Mozillas intent with Firefox is not to take off their intent is to provide a open os there target market being 3rd world or developing countries so Firefox can't take off cuz Mozilla didn't want it to fight now what I see in New oses

Firefox- fail

Tizen- epic fail

Bb10- fail pending further study (it launches tomorrow) was previously win then ubuntu came

Windows 8- is already failing

Jolla salfish- might stick around for a while probably in a dual boot setup b4 it fails (or sticks around its not gonna be breaking any records though)

IOS 7-LOL JK

Ubuntu- EPIC WIN!!!

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[Ubuntu Touch General] n3azz:
Partial Win

Ubuntu will have its place but how prominent we don't know yet.

I think in the future you will be able to by a mobile device and choose which operating system you would like on it.

Of course apple will always be isolated in the market as the shareholders Darpa wouldn't have it any other way.

I will be running Ubuntu OS on my Galaxy Nexus when it becomes available. But if I cant get the apps to do all I do now i shall roll back to CM10 until those apps become available. and try again later.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Sparx639:
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I'll probably find a way around the apps I use, I need something new
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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"When it becomes available" your goods have to switch anyway what they are releasing is a beta version the actual completed OS will be released next year

Same as above

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[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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Devices running official completed ubuntu to hit shelves this October :eek::eek:

www.redmondpie.com/first-ubuntu-phone-os-powered-devices-will-hit-shelves-this-october/

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[Ubuntu Touch General] jc888:
Been running Linux on the desktop since the early 1990's. I'm looking forward to running Ubuntu on the phone. The sooner, the better. I was shopping for a hi-end, hotrod phone, but now I'm wondering if I should wait for Canonical-branded hardware. Any thoughts?

Several posts have talked about an SD card being a requirement. I hope so, I would not even consider buying a high-end phone without an SD card slot (and a removeable battery).
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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I say don't wait first of all even when it does launch in October there won't be an app store yet so the only apps you'll be able to get well be third party apps most likely ports of other mobile apps or ubuntu PC apps also it will be a young operating system and no matter how good u are these things always start off slow take android for instance it was verrrrrrrrry slow growing in the earlier times before it spiked also to top all that off u can get this for an android device still so I say buy your android device it probably will get a ubuntu port so u can use the OS like that and don't have to suffer early adopter syndrome because if a problem presents itself u jump back on android

And as for the requirements the source of this information was on canonicals website in a section meant for operators and OEMs so for all we know they might have been overstating the specs but if u intend on getting a device to run this I recommend getting one with a sd card these apps will be big as they will can be run on phone and PC though we don't know the logistics of his this is being done more space can't hurt better to have and not need than to need and not have

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[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
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Early 90's ?? Wow.. Please tell me more about it .. I think Sep 91 was the first Linux release and as a user I started out 1999 and damn I couldn't get my 56k modem to run on it and the freaking fglrx driver was a pain in the a.. after install X would not start, screen black ... I loved the xorg.conf file to quickly switch to vesa driver to get back to a gui.. I was lost when they removed it.. Boy those where days, luckily nowadays it mostly just works. :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] bbrad:
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There was Linux in the early 90s it was just a terminal ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] omnius1:
This precisely. The #1 most complained about thing on WP8 and now the BB Z10 is "Where are the apps??"

If Microsoft and Blackberry are having a rough go of trying to build a large app store, then Canonical are blowing pure smoke if they try to claim their app selection will be even near what MS and BB have, which isn't much either. They can't even get a strong foothold with their already established desktop OS. Canonical CEO said something like 1.7 million downloads total of the desktop OS. That's pathetic but he looked pretty proud of it.

Apple and Google's pockets are too deep right now. It's going to take a company with as much money and clout as they have to get a strong foothold with a 3rd mobile OS.Until then, I'm not giving up my Android app selection for an Ubuntu phone.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
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Ironically you sound like an iPhone user when the first Android phone was announced.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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And we all know how that turned out

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[Ubuntu Touch General] jc888:
IIRC, it was Redhat 3.something or 4.something. Back in those it was a rite of passage to get a non-root ppp connection. :) Compiling kernals was fun too. I took me two weeks to compile and successfully install it the first time. Remember printer configs? :)

Seriously tho, the first time I can successfully install Linux, I'm done with Android. If the apps I want don't exist, I'll just have to wait until they are available (freeware/shareware/paidware).....
[Ubuntu Touch General] stari_alca:
Canonical isn't in it to push MS or Apple out of the desktop/laptop game. Nor are they releasing Ubuntu Phone OS to squeeze out Google or Apple. Right now they offer a free (and well supported alternative) to desktop OS. They want Ubuntu on your phone, your tablet, your TV, your server, desktop, anything. Its why Unity came to be, its their overall plan. But its not a world domination plan and they don't aim to take over the whole market on any platrofm and device. Saying the Ubuntu Phone OS will fail because of Apple and Google is meaningless in those terms. They simply aren't going for the market share as BB or MS are.

They will have to feature an appstore and make sure that users who pay for a device get all the goodies that Android or iPhone users get. This will take time and it may never achieve what we have for Android but the point is this:

They are trying to do something different. Docking. Connect your phone to your TV and a wireless keyboard and do your thing. If this is really what the future is about, one device to rule them all, they could have a foot in the door early on and compete on that level with the big companies.

If having your phone as one of your main devices isn't what most people will want then they are going to fail. But it has nothing to do with an appstore. If they make it too difficult to use and switch back and forth between calls and Angry Birds and Transformers 17 HD on various screens around your home then they will fail. If they can't get enough people to install their OS on their Android phones or buy pre-installed devices they will fail. There are lots of reasons why this OS may never turn out to be great. While an appstore is a factor in all this its not the crucial factor. The moment users say 'Yeah, we want to use our phones as if they're PCs' developers will port, code and design anything you may want. All Canonical is trying to do, as I see it, is to offer such a change. Its not meant to destroy the other players in the field.

For some reason Canonical seem to think that the future means you will have all your devices connected almost all the time and switching between your phone and tablet and TV and game console and media server will have to be seamless and instant. And they want Ubuntu to be there first. Which is why so many Ubuntu desktop users, myself included, detest what they are doing in the desktop arena. They are moving off and neglecting some of the things we like and need right now at the expense of being part of the future.

tl;dr:

Its not about an appstore and how apps will port to this OS or even about how the OS can be ported to non-GNEX devices. Its about the idea of docking and if they make this appealing they have a chance to compete with the big names in that particular field which is, currently, empty.
[Ubuntu Touch General] BukaKing:
From what I've read, it seems that Canonical's starting or base strategy is to capitalize on support and maintenance of the basic OS and packages for manufacturers and carriers, and not so much on the sale of software. And that also makes sense to have one OS to maintain than to have multiple fragmented OSs and software stacks to maintain. That is also the traditional strategy of the bigger Linux distros, since its hard in itself to capitalize on open source software.

They have also stated that carriers/manufacturers may provide their own software and services, potentially their own software store.

Their search engine is capable of searching several different stores, not just their own, which is useful for others to provide their own stores.

That said my secret desire is to see Valve Steam ported to Ubuntu ARM. I did notice that the Half Life linux beta is running on SDL2 which supports mobile operating systems (android, iOS), which also integrates with EGL and OpenGL ES making it possible to work on Ubuntu Phone some day. But this is likely wishful thinking.
[Ubuntu Touch General] omnius1:
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But even if you put completely aside any new or innovative things Ubuntu may bring to the table, it always, always comes down to apps. Whether or not that may annoy you personally, it's always the number 1 thing people gripe about with WP8 and Blackberry. Apps.

If canonical can't bring a huge app selection (and they won't. Neither MS nor BB has been able to manage to) than people will continue to stick with iphone and Android.

Btw, comparing Android's rise back then to what the market is like now is a bad comparison.
[Ubuntu Touch General] BukaKing:
Software has always been what it comes down to for any operating system, so it's worth considering the fact there is a lot of desktop software available for Ubuntu, in that way I'm sure Ubuntu phones will do better than Atrix. It's one of the reasons I'm attracted to it, especially as a software engineer.
[Ubuntu Touch General] omnius1:
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I was referring to how it will be received by the general public. That's what will determine whether they swim or sink. If it's not a success they don't make any $ and that will stymie any further progress.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
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Ahem.. The Ubuntu community already has a solid base of coders, most of the ROM developers in XDA have used Linux to compile Android and are familiar with the process.

Stop being such a pessimist and learn to be optimistic for once.
[Ubuntu Touch General] BukaKing:
Last time I checked Ubuntu users were part of the general public. I think you mean how it's generally received by the public.

What determines if they sink or swim is if carriers drop the OS, but even then there are probably many who wiould continue to port it to other phones. GNU Linux has survived for a long time with out having been preinstalled on computers for a long time, Microsoft made sure it was difficult for alternatives to compete on desktops and notebooks.

It really depends on what you consider sinking. Your expectations are too high if swimming involves surpassing Android or iPhone in the next year or two.

At least at first, there is going to be a small enthusiastic user base that some carriers will want to sell too. In fact those people will probably want high end hardware for their desktop use. But Canonical is also aiming for low cost phones, which will be interesting to see how that goes.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jc888:
Keep in mind, Ubuntu is starting from scratch. Even so, it would be my guess that the sheer volume of linux mobile apps will be overwhelming in a short period.

Have you looked at the regular Linux repositories lately?
[Ubuntu Touch General] rejanmanis:
Excuse me.

I'll be sitting on the corner with my popcorn.

While im waiting this OS to be ported on my N4.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
For the Nexus4? This one will get an image on the 21th february.
[Ubuntu Touch General] omnius1:
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So by this you mean Canonical can expect faster support than both MS or BB for official native apps from FB, Twitter, Instagram, Skype, Netflix, all the major banks, and a couple dozen more apps that everyone else other than android and iphone have a hard time landing? For all the years Linux has been around on desktop, I noticed that they're still having issues getting nVidia drivers for new graphics cards that Windows gets right away, so I'm skeptical the app situation on this mobile OS is going to be any different.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jc888:
It's entirely possibble you're right with this prediction.

Still, you have to admit that the decentralized, secure model that built Linux has come a long, long way. It's progress is particularily impressive when you consider the array of "establishment" forces that has consistantly opposed it.

Even so, while the "brand name" apps may or may not flock to the Linux phone, there will be a very large volume of alternative apps in a relatively short time.
[Ubuntu Touch General] lehjr:
I'm hoping for epic win, but I'm expecting epic fail on a scale never before seen. Why? First, there is no details given on the display server. Sure they talk about what tool chains will be compatible, but until they actually settle on a display server, there's no way to test and insure compatibility. The other big issue is kernels. The very Achilles heal of Android is the kernel. The phrasing Canonical uses implies that they will maintain the kernel and release updates for the OS every 6 months. OK, great. Except OEM's have their own teams of developers with technical documentation, hardware development kits, direct lines of communications to the chip manufactures themselves and the ability to change the design prior to release, where Canonical may have 1 person working on a project as vital to them as Compiz (Sam Spilsbury). So either the kernel will never be updated, or that model needs a bit of tweaking.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jc888:
Despite the technical issues, I predict it will be a sucess strickly from a standpoint of getting away from the status quo. Supporting windows and bill gates is something that many people will not consider. Supporting the data-mining, spyware-centric model that android has embraced has turned a number of people away. Me included.

I'll adopt Linux on the phone immediately after I can sucessfully install it on my Galaxy S2. Regardless of the ups and down, I would rather tough it out thru the growing phase rather than patronize the established alternatives.
[Ubuntu Touch General] bbrad:
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Your already on Linux lol
[Ubuntu Touch General] jc888:
True, but it wont be the same tree.
[Ubuntu Touch General] lehjr:
You're forgetting that Canonical already has demonstrated similar aspirations. It's only a matter of time before they expand on that model.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
But still we have no exact picture of the model Ubuntu will play here. I'm a fan and hope they will make it. But Canonical themselfes stated, that they have no great influence on the changes the provider will take on the system to customize or to restrict it somehow.

And there are already people, that are criticising the amazon search in Ubuntu 12.10.
[Ubuntu Touch General] lehjr:
Going further back, there was that whole turmoil over Banshee.
[Ubuntu Touch General] domini99:
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do you think Ubuntu will also be released on already existing devices like galaxy s3 or xperia arc s?

Sent from my sending thing..

and just in case, banned with my banana
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
Depends on... Here they say that it at least should not be difficult to port it to other devices http://www.canonical.com/content/touch-developer-preview-ubuntu-be-published-21-february-2013

So we will see.
[Ubuntu Touch General] lehjr:
More than likely the porting will fall upon community driven projects like CayanogenMod, that's if they gain enough developer interest.
[Ubuntu Touch General] domini99:
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ok thanks

Sent from my sending thing..

Stupid computer y u no fast :mad: