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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkshado:
The permissions issues are frustrating. I can take photos and store them on the card, but the umask for JB has been set as 077, in other words, rwx------ permissions, and ownership by the application's user.

I tried different arguments for the mount command to try and force permissions and ownership one way or another with no luck so far. Ironically, an NTFS formatted card might work better in this respect.

A similar mod had been made on the Nexus S and one of the posters resorted to an apk that regularly ran chmod -R 0777 on new files, I tried using it but it just hung there and did nothing on the Note II.

Another possibility would be using FUSE, although I'm not sure how to go about doing this yet.

Also, I pondered the possibility of using UDF instead of ext4, it is a standardized format and just about every major OS out there supports it too...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] amrish96:
Any updates? Is it working already or...?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] muqali:
Despite all the good of Android, Google/carriers, whoever, not including ext2/3/4 support natively is just a slap in the face. Good to see someone working to right a wrong that subjugating software has done.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
You should NOT be doing this. The Android hardware requirements clearly state that all shared storage directories must be case insensitive and must not have permissions. FAT32 is the only supported filesystem which meets these requirements. Mounting an EXT filesystem directly will break applications.

The newer versions of Android come with an "sdcard" utility which uses a FUSE driver to wrap a native EXT filesystem and exposes a pseudo filesystem which is case insensitive and is without permissions. You should mount the EXT SD card at a different location (/dev/fuse) and use the "sdcard" utility to emulate it at /storage/whatever. You can see the command line syntax of the "sdcard" utility in the source code.

CM10.1 does this automatically. https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_system_core/tree/cm-10.1/sdcard
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] muqali:
Again, Android not natively supporting ext4 is a slap in the face. Usability over technical merit disgusts me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
It does support EXT4! Officially. All Google ROMs and AOSP can mount EXT4 partitions as /storage/*. The correct way to mount it is to use the command "sdcard" not "mount". I'm pretty sure any AOSP ROM will automatically mount an EXT4 SD card using the "sdcard" command just like Cyanogenmod does.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkshado:
Thanks for the info. I'll look into this soon-ish, once my exams are over.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] muqali:
It's still a second class citizen to a xFATx filesystem.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
No it's fully supported by AOSP exactly the same as FAT on AOSP and exFAT/NTFS on Samsung ROMs. It's the manufacturer's fault for REMOVING support from their ROM. When you insert an EXT SD card on AOSP, it gets mounted at /storage/* just like any other SD card.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] clearday:
In my N7100 with CM 10.1, ext4 has stopped working for my 32gb SDCard on 05-01-2013 nightly, even after reformatting, going back to stock, then reinstalling CM 10.1. I also noticed that my ext4 formatted 8GB SdCard still works, however, so I am not sure if it's a storage size issue in my case (32gb vs 8gb). I am trying a hybrid of 8mb fat32 / 28.*gb ext4 to see if that will work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
Is it formatted properly as ext4? Using mke2fs or (tune2fs to convert to ext4). All ROMs only mount the first partition on the SD card regardless of the file system. Sometime after mounting USB Mass Storage an the SD card doesn't remount properly so you need to reboot the device. You'll most probably want to use MTP with ext4 anyway.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] clearday:
Finally fixed the problem by running this command in ROM Toolbox Lite:

"find /storage/sdcard1/ -print0 | xargs -0 chown root:media_rw"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38182488#post38182488
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
Then it's not mounted properly! Your ext4 SD card has directly been mounted at /storage/* instead of through the FUSE driver. You should NOT be able to see permissions when it's mounted at /storage/*. The physical partition should be mounted at /dev/fuse. Reboot the device and check again whether permissions are visible at /storage/*.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] clearday:
It's still visible at storage :(

How do I fix it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
It should show up at /storege/* but that should be the FUSE driver's mount point with permissions stripped away. The real ext4 partition will be at /dev/fuse.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Any further progress?

I want to use symlinks and ext4 on my note 2 also.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] DerTeufel1980:
On aosp roms just use the sdcard binary with an initd script.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ttabbal:
I'm trying to do this on Tweaked. There is an sdcard binary, however, it appears to be modified by Samsung as it's hardcoded to mount to /storage/sdcard0 and overrides the internal sdcard mount when I use it. It doesn't take a destination parameter like the AOSP/CM version does.

If anyone has an AOSP/CM build environment, could I trouble you for a statically linked version of the sdcard binary? I downloaded CM10.2-nightly, but it's dynamically linked and, of course, doesn't work on the stock based ROMs.

EDIT

It might still be nice, but I figured out a way around it. I hex edited the sdcard binary from the Note2 to use /storage/sdcard1. Then in the mount script, bind mounted it over to /storage/extSdCard. I've rebooted a few times and it seems to be working fine. I am copying data to it over MTP right now. I've attached a zip of the files I'm using.

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A FLASHABLE ZIP.

I might make one later, but this kind of needs to be a manual process anyway.

put the sdcard1 file in /system/xbin

chmod 755 /system/xbin/sdcard1

put the script file in /etc/init.d

set permissions/ownership on it

Now, if you have an ext4 formatted SD, and it's not mounted, you should be able to run the script and have it mount it, run the sdcard1 binary on it, and bind mount it over to the normal extSdCard spot. It will happen at boot if you got it all right.

There are probably improvements that can be made, my shell scripting is a bit rusty. :D Hopefully this will get people interested in it again, now that the permissions issues are resolved.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkshado:
[MENTION=1868583]ttabbal[/MENTION] I got your setup to work, thanks. (Neat idea that little hex edit switcheroo. Edit: you can also make the edit from the phone by creating a copy of the sdcard binary and using the sed command to replace sdcard0 with sdcard1. I've already got a recovery-flashable zip to do so, still need to work out the mounting part of it.)

Something's amiss in the script as it didn't work on my first attempt, as if the chown and chmod operations didn't kick in. (EDIT: I think it's because some chmod and chown binaries don't respect the -R parameter, busybox's does) The script did execute though, since the partitions are already mounted. (I'm running a relatively stock N7105XXDMB3 ROM I mashed up together, with, of course, init.d support.)

root@android:/ # mount
mount
[...]
/dev/fuse /storage/sdcard0 fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/fuse/extSdCard ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,barrier=1,journal_async_commit,noauto_da_alloc,discard 0 0
/dev/fuse /storage/sdcard1 fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0
/dev/fuse /storage/extSdCard fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0

At first, I could only read the partition, and would get errors in Windows when attempting to write to it via MTP. After glancing at your script some more, I decided to check the permissions.

root@android:/ # ls -l /mnt/fuse/
ls -l /mnt/fuse/
drwxr-xr-x root root 2013-08-18 20:05 extSdCard

Doing this manually fixed it, and survives subsequent reboots:

(I don't really know bash scripting so I didn't feel like trying to fix the script just yet. Plus I'm on call for work.)

root@android:/ # chmod 775 /mnt/fuse/extSdCard
chmod 775 /mnt/fuse/extSdCard
root@android:/ # chown media_rw:media_rw /mnt/fuse/extSdCard
chown media_rw:media_rw /mnt/fuse/extSdCard
root@android:/ # ls -l /mnt/fuse/
ls -l /mnt/fuse/
drwxrwxr-x media_rw media_rw 2013-08-18 21:31 extSdCard
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ttabbal:
Adding those commands is probably a good idea. I'm not sure why it would work after a reboot though, as /mnt is on the ramdisk, so no changes should persist. Interesting.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LocutusEstBorg:
I just noticed that this is for official ROMs. You should really be using exFAT. It's supported out of the box.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkshado:
Hmm, strange then. Yet I've checked again and it persists... I'll go on a limb and ask: is there a hardlink-type situation going on here where I've actually changed the perms and ownership somewhere else, or perhaps a setting for the fuse service?

KurianOfBorg, the reason I was looking into using ext4 (I also considered UDF) is that exFAT wasn't supported at all by AOSP-based ROMs until very recently, I liked the idea of being able to switch back and forth without having to format my SD card all the time or being stuck using vfat.

ext4 would've also worked out of the box if not for Samsung crippling their sdcard binary. Meh, looks like ttabbal solved the permissions issues I was having with his mod.

In terms of cons I lose the capability of putting my card directly into my Windows computer, which I never really did anyways. My phone stays put in its case and I transfer over MTP, or Samba, or WebDAV, or FTP, or... but that's about it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ttabbal:
I don't think so... It makes sense to put the permissions changes in for the /mnt/fuse mount point though, it certainly won't hurt anything. I'll update the script to include them.

ugh... exFAT is a POS filesystem. The only reason to use it is if you want to put the card into a windows box without the phone. I can understand Samsung not suggesting that people use ext4, but intentionally breaking it is a bit over the top. Anything using a Linux kernel can read ext4 without issue.

I've been running the posted files without any issue for a few days now. And AOSP based ROMs should work with it out of the box. TWRP doesn't have any trouble with it either.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Darkshado:
I finally got around to automating the process. This new zip takes your existing sdcard binary and makes the new one, then installs a working (and slightly more verbose) init.d script in the proper location.

I've made a new thread in the Android Software and Hacking General section: [TouchWiz] Mount ext4 formatted SD cards on TouchWiz ROMs
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igl007:
First off let me start by saying that I just picked up the Note 10.1 and I love it. However with the Surface Pro right around the corner I am wondering if I should return my Note and wait for the Surface? I realize the the Surface will be a little more money and for the purpose of this thread I would like to leave the price out of it. I would like to focus this discussion on taking notes and comparing the two for that and that ONLY. My primary use is for taking notes by hand with the stylus. Does anyone know if the pen on the Surface Pro will be better then the Note? Is the lag any better? Any other thoughts? Will taking notes using S-Note be better then with OneNote? Again, focusing on note taking with the pen please...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abmicyau:
The surface pro has a pen? O__O
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Focal86:
Yes the Surface Pro has a pen input and comes with a pen according to the specification page on Microsoft homepage. I wasn't sure so I looked it up.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nrfitchett4:
what lag?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HasC:
http://product.metamoji.com/en/anytime/

With this app, it should be perfect but I cannot confirm as I don't have a Windows tab or this software:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
Surface pro isn't as portable as the note, it is very thick and large and will cost nearly more than twice the note, for sure windows 8 with android emulators is the best of both worlds (I have an android app emulator on my w8 laptop ) but is case of portability price and functionality I consider the note to be best for it, get surface pro as a laptop replacement not tab replacement, and personally I will go for samsungs ativ smart pro tab it is better in specs, screen and it is samsung :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abmicyau:
I agree. The touch cover keyboard is quite painful to type on, too. The type cover one is better, but adds too much bulk.

Note 10.1 is still the best.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riki1kenobi:
Op perhaps you should consider a note 2 and a Surface pro? Best of both worlds.

Personally, I'm not impressed with the supposed battery life of the pro. Early suggestions give it around 4-5 hours, though early reports suggest around 2 - 3 IF you are using it for anything other then surfing. Even at 4 - 5 hours I am out. I used to love my x61 with its 5 hour battery life, now though it does my head in after using the note where I get an average 9 hours battery life.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igl007:
Thanks for all the great replies and constructive ideas. That is always refreshing to see here. Someone suggested getting the note 2 phone and the surface pro. I actually already have the note 2 and its an awesome device IMO. The lag btw that I was referring to is just the delay behind faster strokes which isn't really an issue except to the anal. The size is a concern of the pro, I guess I will just have to hold it and see. I didn't know how the pen on the note works compared to the pro. Are they both using the same digitizer dpi technology? Also I have heard the full version of Onenote is pretty much the holy grail of note taking apps. Hopefully the pro comes out before my note return policy expires.

On anoter note :), are there any screen protectors out there I wonder to specifically give the tablet more of a "paper" feel?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoss_n2:
Try antiglare screen protector it has rough finish like a paper :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocoRon:
I'm not terribly familiar with the Surface Pro, and I'm not too keen on Windows 8.

I do, however, have a Note 10.1, and a convertible tablet laptop, ca. 2008. It came with Windows Vista preinstalled, and I installed Microsoft Onenote.

I can say that, hands down, Onenote is the greatest note-taking application ever. Samsung's S-Note is a like a preschool toy compared to Onenote. I hope S-Note will be improved, but I doubt it will ever be as good as Onenote.

That said, S-Note is... satisfactory.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rakgitarmen:
You are comparing a 450$ tablet with a probably 1000$ dollars PC. If you have the money(you obviously do) and don't mind the increased weight, there is no reason not to get the Surface Pro. You'll have a superior experience in every way.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klau1:
If you're going get a Windows 8 Pro tablet, check out the Kupa

http://www.kupaworld.com/Products.html

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/10/kupa-ultranote-windows-8-modular-tablet-hands-on-video/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_V_LK85LKE

Better Specs than Surface Pro
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lerun:
I have been running a Samsung Slate with W8 a while now.

Office 2013 with OneNote is superior to SNote and anything in the Android space at the moment.

The biggest drawback is still the power hungry Intel chipset, still even with the latest iterations.

For me for a tablet to be viable it has to have at least 6-8+ hours of battery life in normal operation (inking in OneNote, with good enough backlight on the screen). This is something Intel has not been able to deliver (if one do not con't the Atom, as that has to few horse power to run W8 in my opinion).

So I use the Note for meeting and light inking stuff, and OneNote for all the heavy inking lifting.

Just my 2 cent.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheWerewolf:
Ok, first things first. Do you want a Surface Pro or a Win8 Tablet? There will be a LOT of Win8 tablets with pens out (in fact, there are a few out now) in a variety of sizes and weights.

There are a few common things though.

ALL Pro tablets are running some kind of x86 processor (Atom, Sandy Bridge, i3, i5...) and ALL of these eat more current because they're more powerful CPUs. That means shorter battery life for the same battery size. They also tend to have higher resolution screens since the best resolution for Win8 is 1366x768, but most Android tablets are 1280x800, so it's not that big a difference and some have 1920x1080 or higher.

Unlike WinRT, you get full access to the desktop and can run all Win7 and Win8 apps.

In terms of price, it's kind of all over the place - the Asus Vivo is $500, for example. My Samsung Slate 7 is a hardware reference platform for Win8 and it's $1000-$1350 depending on the config.

http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/68046-500-asus-vivotab-smart-goes-up-for-pre-order

In fact, the Asus Vivo might be a good one to consider:

http://www.asus.com/Tablet/VivoTab/ASUS_VivoTab/

So to flip the question - why a Note 10? Well, for me, it's convenience and compactness. I use the Slate 7 for heavy lifting or complex graphics where I want to use full Photoshop or Painter. But carrying the Slate around is annoying. You need to have a keyboard and a mouse for programming on it. So I have a Golla bag with all of that in it and you're never sure the battery will be charged when you need it. I tend to see the Slate as a VERY portable i5 desktop system - I tend to see the Note as an electronic notebook on steroids. The battery lasts days, I can take notes, draw, watch videos etc.. and it's very seamless. I carry the Note with me everywhere... I don't carry the Slate everywhere.

They're BOTH good, useful devices, but the use patterns are different.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klau1:
VERY MUCH OUTDATED Statement

Acer W700

Kupa

Sony Vaio Duo 11

Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T

ALL 1080P

1920X1080
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] igl007:
Now that it is out, has anyone tried the stylus? Please stick to thread topic which is comparing note taking ONLY.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jadwv2210:
I've had a problem with my skyrocket for quite some time now. No matter which radio, ROM, or kernel I use the data will be hit and miss and so won't phone calls and messaging. I've already had one skyrocket replaced because of this issue and even got a replacement SIM card to no avail. I get full bars of H+ service. I've tried adding different APNs as well. The AT&T store is obviously stumped (they are basically worthless) and phone support is no better. I was wondering if anyone knew of this problem and what caused it or a way to fix it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] crashpsycho:
Have you tried reverting back to a full blown stock rom only
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jadwv2210:
Yes, I tried going back to the stock touch wiz ICs ROM to no avail. I even left my new phone on stock whie never being rooted and had the same problem.

Thank you for your reply.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] crashpsycho:
To be real I doubt I your got a dud phone 2x I would try to get ur carrier to change it to something else... because all those symptons point to a bad antenna on a phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jadwv2210:
I will take it to them and try to get a replacement or a different phone. I got my first one within the 30 day return period but I have had my current phone for about two months. I also forgot to mention that if I throw it against the wall or smack it against my hand, the message will usually go through. Now, I don't usually go throwing my electronics around haha. I only did this after it started happening and that always seemed to make it work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dinman:
I got really tired of slamming mine against the wall. I started taking a screenshot of my text and then emailing it....its all good now.
[HTC Sensation] ashkan-khatar:
Hi there, i installed a file manager n tried to send somthing thru wifi, i mean using wifi direct option, but it told me that there is no wifi direct option enabled, do u want to enable it in settings? Then when i tapped yes, i could not find such option no where. So i was wondering if this phone support this fascility or not?
[HTC Sensation] sepsep 21:
I have this problem too. My filemanager even dont recognize Wi-Fi direct.
[HTC Sensation] eyal1728:
update:

i flashed my firmware to 3.33

my phone is S-Off

Super-CID

Rooted

flashed to rom vipers 1.6 by venome team

and the problam still stay !! when i turn on wifi it just went on loop ON>OFF>ON>OFF forever !

help please
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DavidMT909:
Is this possible? I just want it to not turn on the screen. I notice in my front pocket sitting down sometimes the power button gets pressed and turns on the screen. I would prefer the home button only cause it is flatter and more flush with the device. I am able to edit the home button to either wake or not wake the phone, but the power button wakes the phone even when I erase the fields in all the system/usr/keylayout files. There must be a backup file or something somewhere telling the power button to turn the screen on. I use WidgetLocker also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Its TwiX:
Are you sure it's not the home button turning your screen on? Pretty common occurrence...

Sent from my Xposed Beans Note 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DavidMT909:
No. I have disabled that and will leave it disabled until I can figure out how to disable the power button.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] highcee:
i would like to see this as well, the power button is too easy to press accidentally. i tried editing the keylayout files but i couldnt get it to work either.... here's my ideal setup: the home button wakes the phone, the power button does nothing unless you long press it to bring up the power options menu. or press it while the screen is on to turn off screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] LBJM:
I too have this problem.

The power button is easy to press when it's on my pocket and I even have a case on it. The case makes it a little harder to press but I can still hear the click of the button when so I know when it happens.