yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kmaq:
check this post by TRB with regards to dorimanx 8.0 "... Dori has included the init from samsung kernels which has been been the cause of boot hang and boot loop issues ...."
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tricky-tricky:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

I also missed flashing gaaps (a heads up would have been nice faryaab :) ) but after flashing 121212 gaaps it worked fine... I don't remember but I think I cleared cache and dalvik after flashing gaaps before rebooting again
[Galaxy S II Android Development] dniestre:
take 3 from dori 8.0
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kmaq:
take 3 from TRB, as per this boot loop/boot hang has been fixed in dori 8.0
[Galaxy S II Android Development] speko:
same here, cous I use 7.50 now, not 8.00
[Galaxy S II Android Development] mathy007:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Go use the new v8 dorimanx maybe that will solved your bootloop
[Galaxy S II Android Development] killthedroid:
hi everybody,unfortunately new v8 dorimanx is still affected by bootloop on this rom,i'm on 7.50 but tethering doesn't work
[Galaxy S II Android Development] zetagf:
I quote myself, heh. I asked this because the new version of Dori, 8.0 is supposed to be working on new Mali driver and the 7.50 version with the previous one. But I'm not sure which version Supernexus uses. Anybody knows how to figure it out?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] killthedroid:
i think this rom use the old Mali driver because dori 7.0 v1 works almost properly,dori 8.0 v2 doesn't boot (tested personally)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Erlanderterv:
Calendar Sync

I have some strange behaviour from the Calendar app.

Events created on my pc from the web browser are synced correctly and show on the phone but events created on the phone do not appear on the pc.

Is this a bug or have I got some other problem?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ceneszzz:
is there anybody would like to help me how to downgrade from supernexus rom to official jelly bean??

i just used odin and it stuck at setup connection :crying::(:silly:. please help me thx :good:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tricky-tricky:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

You should go to the official jb forum and ask for help there mate....
[Galaxy S II Android Development] dickgoh:
keyboard not responding

After flashing this rom, the keyboard is not reponding, keep on popping up the keyboard error....any fix?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] PSL184:
You should wipe cache + dalvik (from advanced) then wipe phone first.

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USB debugging...?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tukmulin:
If you can't boot, you may need to factory reset. If you can also somehow get a ROM to flash into your SD (using a card reader), the flash through recovery, that might work.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kmaq:
flash the official JB 4.1.2 via odin, after flashing it will reboot, if it stuck in samsung logo, reboot in to recovery by pressing volume up + power + home button. in the recovery full wipe/factory reset then reboot. it should be fine.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ceneszzz:
thx guys after several hours i got my JB back to works again :good:

yes after first flashed got loop at sammy's logo. after wipe cache and wipe data it boot to system smoothly. once again, thx guys :good::good:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] AlamVasquez:
Theme Chooser

Hi Faryaab, I hope u r doing OK, is there anyway to add the theme chooser on this ROM, I'll be very grateful if u make a mode to add this option.

Thanks in advanced
[Galaxy S II Android Development] arvind.katariya:
Slower than Super nexus 1?

I have just upgraded from SN1 Build 4 to SN2 Build 3.

Is it just me or is this one slightly slower than SN1?

It is slightly smoother yes, but slower I feel. Are there any tweaks /tricks I am missing?

Regards

Arvind
[Galaxy S II Android Development] UnwiredDroid:
After installing the Build 3 and working after few days, the WiFi now can't be turned on. Any fix on this? I tried to reflash it with Build 1 and nothing happens.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Erlanderterv:
I have found the answer to this problem.

Below is the answer for anyone else who experiences this problem:

It is not caused by this rom but by the way the calendar apps are set up. There is a calendar called "MY Calendar" and another set up on my Google account. By default both are displayed but the default for saving is the "My Calendar" and this does not save to the Google account. In the calendar settings I unchecked "My Calendar" to display and to Sync and it is no longer the default to save. Now appointments entered on the phone also appear on my pc and vice versa.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ATTIEQ:
i was using this rom from its release.i found Google voice not responding & closing without any error

keyboard was not working,Call recorder pro recording just 2-3 calls & then nothing.

Speaker Booster was not doing any effect on volume.

i reset app setting several times but same result

i tried to re-install Gapps but no luck.

i had also tried to change kernel to siyah & dori but issue was there all times

Now i have gone back to supernexus-I9100-Build5-20121017

everything works Perfect now.

but i want to know what was problem with this New Rom. it is very fast than Build5.

is there any problem with my installation method.

i used CWM recovery => factory reset => partition cache reset => install zip from sdcard => selected supernnexus build 3 => install zip from sdcard => selected gapps-jb-20121212-signed.zip => reboot

my baseband version ( I9100XXLS8 )

Thanks mates
[Galaxy S II Android Development] stfnlg:
Wifi Issues

Hi,

thanks for this fine rom.

I'm having some issues with the wifi. It seems to a bit laggywith activated wifi-connection. browsing using chrome or using the email-client doesn't work properly.

Any hints ?

Thanks

Stefan
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Faryaab:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

No new SuperNexus 2.0 updates coming due to exams. Will be updated after 2 weeks or so.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kmaq:
what is the problem you are facing with email client? are you using exchange mail? give more details so that people here can help you out.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] stfnlg:
The problem is, i'm using my S2 with the Super Nexus Rom, a colleague of me is using the S2 stock rom.

His wifi connection is good, i'm sitting next to him, my connection is low. So i'm asking, if there is a problem using wifi.

Sorry, my english is bad.

Stefan
[Galaxy S II Android Development] astrogambit78:
Thanks mate :)

hope you pass with flying colors, goodluck :angel:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] h3dshot:
I'm not using supernexus atm just browsing, and im not 100% sure but i think that may be because of the modem you are using, try changing the modem and see if it improves it.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] dead0:
heres a battery % mod with icon for build 3 if anyone is interested. tested on my s2

ps if anyone knows how i can add gps, sync & sound tiles to the quick settings & also enable mobile data on/off directly, would appreciate it :)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ionutmd:
AOSP

Looks like the 4.2.2 code is being pushed to AOSP. Hope this will help the devs.

I would be willing to give this another try if the timezone bug is fixed.

Fingers crossed...
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ayazyounis:
hi guys this is a really awesome rom and

just one question: on my s2 the softkeys (either side of the home button) light up for no reason even when im not touching the screen. does anyone know how to stop this behaviour? i only want those keys to light up if i touch the phone thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kmaq:
i am also looking for details related to this, if you get to know do share it :D
[Galaxy S II Android Development] vuittion:
I've tried numerous Roms on my i9100 and always come back to this.

I love its simplicity and speed.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tukmulin:
Are you on stock ROM? The BLN feature for Dori kernel lights up those buttons when you have a notification.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tower666:
Hi Guys,

Quick question. How can I make Quick Pic to see all my images stored on external SDcard? All my mp3s are there and I can listen to them with no problem, but I cant get my images from there.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] -iNCEPTiON-:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Using this rom for the past week now with dorimanx v7.50 and i must say that this rom is awesum good battery life and with good performance... Keep it up faryaab ;)

Just waiting to get a update on this rom and i can use dorimanx v8.0 with new mali drivers ;)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] rogers11:
If the touchkeys light up twice (immediately when touching the screen and some seconds later) then it's normal and a known (AOSP-)error. I've turned the touchkey lights of in Galaxy SII settings.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] arvind.katariya:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Isnt getting installed....
[Galaxy S II Android Development] mjehan:
Moved from Stock 4.0.4 to this ROM. Is this an update Radio and bootloader that I need to flash ? Which is the best kernel for this ROM ?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Update to Ls8 radio (cuz al futur cm based roms need that radio) , no, dont change the kernel
[Galaxy S II Android Development] mjehan:
Where can i get the LS8 radio ?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Ruben1987:
I would love to switch from my LSJ tweaked leak to SuperNexus Build 3, but I know coming from CM 10.0 before that there where low Camera resolutions issues

and especially very big sound issues like not getting the volume up after half way etc and also that connecting via USB mass storage was not possible.

Is this still the case on this CM modded version of 10.2?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Cm10.1 lastest builds doesnt have any bugs, tgis rom is based from an old cm10.1 so there may have some still...
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Mettafox:
Why the newest version of Dorimanx kernel (v8.X) doesn't work with this rom?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] rogers11:
AW: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Ask in the Dorimanx forum.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Cuz its for sammy jb roms!!!!! JUST READ!!!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Mettafox:
Thanks and sorry for the question.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] -iNCEPTiON-:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

I am experiencing some problems with whatsapp... Whenever i open it.. My phone freezes and restarts :( any solution???
[Galaxy S II Android Development] dead0:
dori 8 uses the new mali driver so will not work with build 3, use mcm siyah kernel

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im trying to mix parts of the new slimrom with this but no luck so far as the new slimrom uses the new mali driver. I haven't found any real benefits from the new mali driver tho and i prefer mcm siyah kernel which unfortunately uses the older mali driver for 4.2.1. i have no idea on smali editing so cant do it myself, having to resort to using notification toggles from the play store
[Galaxy S II Android Development] stfnlg:
AW: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Hey,

I made a New Installation of this Rom. Now its running fine. Maybe i had changed something in the recovery concerning the kernel mode. Now its running on Default.

Thanks for your help. I've got the latest radio.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9100 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Mettafox:
The flash shots when slide to view photo or when return key is pressed.

Well, I don't know if the bug is related directly with the camera app, but, I leave a logcat here for some solution.

Logcat:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sttk81ivuycpl90/2013-03-02-21-20-03.txt
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Very knowed bug from old cm10.1 builds... (this rom is based pf that)

Just install cm10.1 latest nightly until supernexus is updated
[Galaxy S II Android Development] NicOsol:
Sv: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

What kernel are you using?

Sendt fra min GT-I9100 med Tapatalk2
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Mettafox:
Dorimanx 7.5.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] -iNCEPTiON-:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

If anyone has problems with whatsapp, use this version :)

http://db.tt/CXpziG4R
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pedropassalini:
Camera still not working 100%, GPS information has an issue!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] arvind.katariya:
You tube videos - HELP

I am facing an issue with Youtube video quality.

The quality has become terrible.

Regular videos are playing fine, but in the youtube app its just extremely pixelated & bad quality....any tips...??
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tukmulin:
Try the Dori 4.50
[Galaxy S II Android Development] PMOttawa:
Everybody keeps recommending, but it's nearly impossible to find a link for any Dori kernels before the 7.x range.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] tukmulin:
I'm sorry, I meant 7.5.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] thorindwarf:
Guys, when I connect the phone to the PC (windows 7) the MTP doesn't show all media files on the internal memory. I can see that it shows only that media files (jpg, mp3, flac...) which are created during the existence of SuperNexus on my phone. It sounds crazy but I can see it's true. No music files shown. No jpegs in the DCIM/Camera folder...

Anyone have an idea why this happens?

Complete wipe, formatted system and flashed B3.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] WarioNeila86:
Maybe you have to enable Mass storage mode.

Or, God forbid, you've deleted your files accidentally while flashing...:confused:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] thorindwarf:
I don't want to enable Mass storage mode. I want to use MTP. When I'm on Samsung based rom there is no such problem and I'm wondering what is the problem...

No, I've not deleted my files while flashing :) At least I can see them through the phone itself.

Forgot to mention that I can't use usb mass storage mode as my usb ports are locked for such mode (company policy). But this is not related to MTP as it works on samsung based roms.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] LocutusEstBorg:
Does this include the latest Atmel mXT224 driver that exposes the max_hysti value for touchscreen? The stock CM kernel uses an outdated driver and not the new one from official SGS2 ROMs.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iltoffa:
I'm finding an issue when I edit a picture in the gallery: when prompted to save it he gallery3d stops and crashes.

Anyone with this problem?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] killthedroid:
R: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Clearing data and cache of gallery.apk it will work again XD

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iltoffa:
great, man! Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] jd_dpgc:
simply awesome

this is one of my favorit roms now :D

awesome speed... no issues so far....

a question here, can i use latest banks gapps with this rom? this one here	[Gapps][Unofficial][4.2.2 JDQ39][3-4-2013]

thanks and keep up the good work....

love you:good:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] IceKreem:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Should be fine but go with what you know son ;)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] arvind.katariya:
Can someone help with this please!!!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] sh0ne:
problem

Yesterday I was on the site and had to make some documentation videos, so when I came to office back there was a bad surprise:

No sound was recorded! I did not change anything....

cheers
[Galaxy S II Android Development] stripeset:
Greatest ROM I´ve ever used so far on my SGS2 ... lightning fast, super slim, stable AND low battery drain... great work!! Thank you :good:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] jackq:
Rom seems to be nice but i read some pages and keep waiting for new release based on latest cm10.1 without bugs.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] PINki92:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Anybody faces problem which makes orientation not working (orientation enabled in pulldown menu)?

For example i watch few YouTube videos and it simply stops rotating as I tilt the device.

Only reboot fixes it. Quite annoying.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] dead0:
finally got it working...with a mix of supernexus, slim bean 4.2.2 & mcm siyah kernel. just replace the contents of the framework folder & system/apps from slim bean into supernexus 2. you get the benefits of slim bean tweaks and mods with the base of supernexus and compatibility of mcm siyah kernel :)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] keyur1401:
Thanks !!! Great work indeed ! Good luck to your exams.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] keyur1401:
Version info !

I used to get version info / CSC / PDA by dialling *#1234#.. but its not working, any idea ? Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Erlanderterv:
Only on stock Samsung roms.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] rogers11:
Not necessary. Most problems are caused by crappy custom kernels. I do not have a single problem with build3.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
-.- the cm kernel on build 3 is very old!

wait for build 4... gpu and memory drivers will be for sure updated, and then no more bugs
[Galaxy S II Android Development] rogers11:
I do not have any problems with the default CM kernel. Did you read the post?

And I do not really care about the kernel's age as long as it works.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

graphical bugs (look the keyboard while typing), bad memory management sometimes,...

to fix that there is some new patches/updates such as mali v2 driver (for the gpu)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iltoffa:
How can I hide the contacts without telephone numbers (for instance only e-mail)?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] czacha234:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Go to Contacts--> Settings--> Contacts to display and see if is there an option to customise.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iltoffa:
I already did it but I can choose only the kind of contacts (family, friends, ecct..)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] danielk68:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

I want to try this rom.

Do you suggest to wait for next version?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Yep!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] penfold99:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Nope
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

the kernel is extremelly out dated -.-
[Galaxy S II Android Development] bodomfan:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Does Phil's kernel work on this rom

sent from my galaxy s2 stock jellybean with alliance mod
[Galaxy S II Android Development] C4SCA:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

philz is only for sammy roms... and dont ask that here, ask on the kernel thread or even better read the kernel thread
[Galaxy S II Android Development] rogers11:
Absolutely not necessary, even if someone is instantly blabbering about a non up to date kernel.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Ruku1994:
No, it's AOSP rom, and Phil's is for sammy's roms.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] danielk68:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

Read few roms posts, and it's seems that this one have the better battery life.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iltoffa:
Regarding the bluetooth what has been added (or changed) respect to the 4.1.2?

Whit the original 4.1.2 I had continuosly disconnections and I was not able to use it in the voice kitcar (with the 4.0.3 ICS it was working fine)

With this Supernexus now I'm able to see also the phonebook and the calls list into my car (2004 bmw): it's amazing! I'm very happy about that!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Tedo:
R: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Can modify the toogle? How many and wich kind? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iAnoop:
I am getting trouble with fast battery drain and weird battery status (in setting)...

Following things happening even charger / cable not connected to phone

Few days ago I noticed that daydream is still showing even if charger removed.

In Battery setting it showing on 10 sec battery after unlock , just like I removed charger few seconds ago even if not connected to charger.

Things I done:

flashed kernel again.

battery removed and inserted again after sometime.

but problem is still there...

when I inserted battery it was showing battery charging indicator (Just like phone switched off and connected to charger).

But when phone boots up to main screen charging indicator gone.

while charging is happening as usual when connected to charger but battery is draining like hell 12 hours on standby mode:confused:

Any solution for this!!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Erlanderterv:
Have you tried cleaning the usb port?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] WarioNeila86:
Yes it seems an issue related to USB port.

My phone got wet after throwing a glass of water (accidentaly) and for a few days it was continously showing charging/discharging without connecting USB cable.

Regards!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Nostrummare:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

My Nexus 4 arrived yesterday and I am very happy ... so I'll leave ... but do not forget to thank all of you especially Faryaab for the good time spent with this wonderful rom :D

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iAnoop:
no luck...

:crying:

Can anyone give me Siyah kernel link (not dorimanx)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Nostrummare:
Re: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

Siyah kernel

Siyah-s2-v6.0b5-CWM.zip - 6.96 MB

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Tedo:
Hello people,

this ROM have the toggle bar enhanced?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] iAnoop:
Yes,,, long press wifi toggle working,:good:

Not sure other options you are looking for.

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Finally fixed the problem..

--> Cleaning USB doesn't work.

then I flashed kernel again and find that recently I made Notification toggle app as system software (for quick GPS toggle). problem solved.

Possible bug is Notification toggle was preventing phone to go into deep sleep. (Thanks to CPU spy for stats) :victory:

Thread link please :good:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Tedo:
R: [ROM][AOSP][JB][4.2.2][JDQ39] SuperNexus 2.0 - I9100 - BUILD 3 [17-02-13]

I like to modify the toogle, add some more like router wifi, torch, ecc.