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[Ubuntu Touch General] klinkdawg:
I think this looks really cool! i would definitely be willing to give it a try once it is released!
[Ubuntu Touch General] mkuehl06:
I wouldn't mind testing a toroplus version
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyco2008:
Beat me to it ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] KostasR:
It would be quite nice to be able to dual boot with Android :cowboy::victory:
[Ubuntu Touch General] brooksyx:
Can't wait to try this! I love Ubuntu!
[Ubuntu Touch General] ferozfero:
Guys im not gonna post a link... But u should check out the ubuntu first look video by phone dog... I say this specifically because.. Wen the guy is asked wen the OS is going to be released , he purposely locks and unlocks the device abrubtly so we see the 14 tweets... Im betting 14 has to do with the date of release..
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Lol i said something along those lines a few pages ago

Hope our observations are correct
[Ubuntu Touch General] rygran87:
OR it's because it's going to be officially released on its own device in 2014.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
ZOMFQG. It must be because 2x7=14. So we just need to wait until February 7th 2014.

Makes about as much sense as what you said.
[Ubuntu Touch General] rygran87:
Actually I think it makes as much if not more sense than the rest of the speculation around here since they actually said that they were planning on releasing a phone with an OEM and carrier in the first or second quarter of 2014
[Ubuntu Touch General] bogdanthegreat:
2014 is for hardware:cowboy:
[Ubuntu Touch General] VBTheory:
This will probably have a rough time gathering its first apps since they aren't the same as those of android, but only time will tell
[Ubuntu Touch General] ginger man:
Hmm... So Valentines dinner or flash Ubuntu? I know what I'm choosing haha
[Ubuntu Touch General] alfiemenace:
What a bunch of paranoids. You're too overexcited. It'll come if it'll come, go get a life or something instead of anxiously waiting.

Stock ROM, custom user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
You must be famous for your sarcasm detection abilities.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
We can't get a life, we died in 12/21/12 remember? This is an illusion created by space time continuum. We're all being generated by a more advanced species that is trying to see what "ancient" civilization acted like and did and what led them to their own end. They've taken then custom to call us (Rough Translation: Ujikininas.)

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Anyways.. I'm a little happy to see this happen, I want to contribute to Ubuntu's Early Software Center (Mobile) days and begin development on Ubuntu OS, already began learning Java Android Dev and I hope that it fully Supports Java.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jzero88:
What a way to be a Debbie downer Jack.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mckeeverisdman:
Flash Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
Since we're on this topic and it will be more than a month before we can actually flash this, which open source OS do you think will turn out to be the best? Ubuntu mobile, Tizen or Firefox OS?
[Ubuntu Touch General] Lesicnik1:
Not sure, but I think Firefox OS is purely HTML5 (Correct me if I'm wrong). And Ubuntu is HTML5 +native apps. So I'd say Ubuntu has the advantage in the apps department.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
The thing with the 14 on the Welcome-Screen... so, when there are speculations made, I would speculate about the MWC in Barcelona at 25th - 28th of february for a release Date of the GNex Image, because didn't they say it would be released at end of february?

But like the other theories, this is all speculation.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mckeeverisdman:
I just saw in the "coming weeks"...
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
I'm pretty sure the Galaxy Nexus release date will be for Maguro, toro and toroplus users will have to wait a few extra weeks.. Sucks to be us don't it?

:/
[Ubuntu Touch General] mckeeverisdman:
Good for us choosing CDMA. Haha. Aww damn! Sucks that we just HAD TO HAVE the best cell phone service in the US. Curse you Verizon for being so good.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Rusty!:
Extra few weeks? Given the CDMA licencing issues, I'd be surprised if it ever comes officially.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Then you'd also be a fool.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Terd Ferguson:
Figjt :thumbup: fight :thumbup: fight
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
How is he a fool. He is right about getting CDMA binaries built for a custom OS that is not native to a device. That's up to Verizon/Sprint along with Samsung to help build those binary files whereas GSM will use open sources
[Ubuntu Touch General] mckeeverisdman:
This dude was trolling my post yesterday because I had limited connectivity and couldn't find this thread. So by natural workings, I asked the question and basically got the same attitude we are seeing here.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
It's foolish to think that Canonical is going to ignore CDMA devices. It may take some time but the only two Galaxy Nexus variants in the US that are CARRIER PHONES are CDMA.

Besides, this is XDA, nobody here cares about "official".
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Android 4.2 wasn't released officially by either Sprint or Verizon, and it was released the next week (5 days later) after the OTA. So I'd say a few weeks.

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CDMA has it's downs so don't act like it's the most perfect thing ever, same deal with Sprint and Verizon.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Its not a matter of ignoring but a matter of licensing costs and getting multiple parties to work together on aftermarket firmware. In the grand scheme of things, the international variant sold many more than the CDMA carrier version. So, in Canonical's eyes, CDMA are small fraction to even consider spending money on this.
[Ubuntu Touch General] BrianDigital:
You guys shouldn't feed the troll,
[Ubuntu Touch General] KWKSLVR:
Even if you found a way to make a CDMA version and circumvented Verizon/Sprint licensing, they'd just block it on their network anyway... the same with T-Mobile and those shysters at AT&T. It will never see the light of day on a major U.S. carrier. This stuff is designed for 3rd world countries. :eek:
[Ubuntu Touch General] mckeeverisdman:
I was making a joke... But thanks for that.. I guess?
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyco2008:
Does anyone here actually know what they're talking about? I doubt any of you really know what CDMA is and how it works beyond that it's a cell system less-used than GSM and you can't talk and surf at the same time on it.

So shpew the "CDMA won't get it" ****, go ahead, you're probably going to keep doing it after this post, but there's been crazier things done than porting an OS to a CDMA device. Maybe it will never happen, and if you believe in that philosophy of optimism, then it definitely never will, because you're all *****ing that CDMA is SOL.

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And this makes no sense! I can put a boat on my phone, I can put Ubuntu Mobile on it too, regardless of Verizon's constant oppression.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Not All.
[Ubuntu Touch General] times_infinity:
This makes no sense. The binaries are there. Everything is open source. Would just need to be adapted from Java to C/C++, etc.

Again, everything is there for Canonical to use. Android specific kernel code to talk with android specific drivers and binaries.

This makes no sense. You don't see Verizon terminating accounts because someone flashed a custom ROM on their phone. The absolute most they do is kill your warranty.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
What everyone is failing to realise the point of the argument is a official firmware from Canonical is unlikely at first opposed to Dev version from these forums due to the nature of CDMA.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Nobody is "failing to realize" that. Currently the argument is we will never officially see Ubuntu mobile on the CDMA Gnex. Which is a far cry from what you just said.
[Ubuntu Touch General] corypaul:
Really why you fussing with members in xda....email and ask the ppl building the image
[Ubuntu Touch General] mckeeverisdman:
We have. Speculating more or less.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Because they wouldn't have had to sign a NDA. Tell us more about how you know the business.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
LOL, if you ever followed the history of the Verizon Gnex, then you would realise the issues that not everything on our model is open-sourced. That's why Google can't compile RIL or Radio binaries into their images by themselves because the carrier has to provide those. That's why when you flash a custom ROM, they usually mention update with the latest Verizon binaries.

2nd, the RIL and related stuff is not in the Kernel and is a separate component of the OS ROM. Plus, they are compiled by the carrier to interface with OS which means it OS dependent and can't be used with Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Febby:
I believe you can now with phones that support SV-DO; like the evo lte. I've read that sprint has abandoned the svdo and is waiting to do SVLTE.
[Ubuntu Touch General] brooksyx:
I used wimax and could talk in sprint at the same time. Yes I know they were different radios but just saying that argument that gsm is better for that reason is kind of moot nowadays.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Except that HSPA+ gets 2-4x the speeds of WiMax with much better signal penetration.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Febby:
I use to use a wimax device myself but to be honest wimax was a huge battery drainer and not so reliable in my experience in L.A.

I miss HSPA+. I use to love the blazing fast speeds back in the midwest when I had T-Mobile. This is true, HSPA+ is just as good if not better than LTE where the coverage is provided. :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] tiny4579:
RIL is open sourced in AOSP. See below:

https://github.com/android/platform_hardware_ril/tree/jb-mr1-release/libril

Radios do have to be provided by the carrier. There are binaries with the factory images and the factory image is actually a full working stock build with all the needed files including the bloatware.
[Ubuntu Touch General] times_infinity:
The RIL source is there. RIL.java in the framework and platform_hardware_ril which is in C btw. Radio isn't a CDMA thing, its a proprietary thing. Provided by Samsung, not the carrier. So how about you research a few things first. Also, Verizon has released everything Google need and anyone who can follow instructions on source.android.com to build straight aosp for Toro/Toroplus. it was Sprint that was playing hardball not wanting to release anything. Regardless, everything is there.
[Ubuntu Touch General] slayr76:
So glad I have a gsm unlocked gnex an not CDMA lol.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Really, when did that all change? I swear to god I always had to cherry pick stuff out of the stock builds to get a home compiled ROM to work.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
I knoowwww :c I love HSPA+, LTE is so overrated anyways, also one thing I can't comprehend is that people were complaining when they found out that the Nexus 4 wasn't LTE, HSPA+ is pretty darn good, with speeds of 21mbps I don't know why you would need more than that..

I'm waiting for my contract to terminate on 2014 to get T-Mobile.

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Sprint is greedy like that, they've been throttling (theory) my 4G LTE speeds lately.. Either that or my LTE sucks after the 10GBs of Data spent and gets faster the next month everytime..
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
Yeah it's so sad how some people put themselves into this CMDA slavery but they can't help their reception problems.
[Ubuntu Touch General] barry99705:
OSX is a Unix(BSD) derivative, they aren't really the same. Most of the commands are the same, but the file structure is different.

Crap. I really should read the rest of the thread before commenting....
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
I know it's not the same. That's why I added the qualifier of "the way people just throw it around like it's a magic word that solves all the problems in the World."
[Ubuntu Touch General] save_jeff:
Ubuntu Mobil is an awesome projekt. But the UI is a Little bit strange.

We will have to see how smooth the Desktop Version on the phone will be
[Ubuntu Touch General] Mischaseb:
Yeah i wanna see how it is when its docked since thats the main appeal of it over android
[Ubuntu Touch General] lokeshsaini94:
One question... Does Ubuntu os has build in terminal... (You know what i mean)...:D
[Ubuntu Touch General] :
This feature needs a Quad-Core so you won't see this on the Nexus.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
What are you basing this off of? Because the phone using Ubuntu Mobile I've seen is the nexus. Not to mention I did see a video of "A" phone docked hooked to a TV using the desktop feature. Again the only phone I've noticed using Ubuntu Mobile has been the nexus.

Edit : Also the desktop of Ubuntu doesn't require much to run.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Lesicnik1:
Infact, there's a video of a Motorola Atrix 2 running Ubuntu for Android, which has similar specs to the GNex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU1XpydC7YE
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Two things.. Ubuntu OS specs are on their site, it's a minimum of 1.2GHZ Dual score and 512mb-1GB of RAM, the galaxy nexus is by far the only (publicly) displayed device running Ubuntu OS docked, Second.. The Galaxy Nexus is not the only Nexus. The Nexus 7 and Nexus 4 are both Quad core, so if that nonsense were to be true two Nexus devices would have it.

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That's Desktop Ubuntu, not Canonical's Mobile version of Ubuntu, it's quite simple to do that really.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Lesicnik1:
I was just showing that the full Ubuntu desktop doesn't require a quad core.
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
Actually it'll work better then android for under power smartphone. Listen to what the guy said, it'll run smoother it'll have more control of the apps hence not so much waisted memory!!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Actually anybody who says anything with any certainty is talking out of their ass.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Somebody leaked the img!

I just downloaded it from Here

will be posting up mirrors soon after I try it
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
Is that including the guy who's running the show coz he's going to have the biggest ass the world has ever had if its all b......ks . !!!! But yes I agree coz it still has to hit a massive audience and only then can we all have our own thoughts on how it performs!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
No, jono bacon from canonical said it won't have it pre installed or supported by canonical.. Must be created as a app..

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Where? That link is a YouTube link and offline...
[Ubuntu Touch General] krazykeyur:
/rickroll'd
[Ubuntu Touch General] Carlos_Manuel:
Now that video have one dislike from me by wasting my time.

hopefully others dislikes that video too because of you noob.. -.-
[Ubuntu Touch General] Garner:
"Video not available in your country" Awww i love rick astly as well :|
[Ubuntu Touch General] salahmed:
:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

So you think it is a good joke... And you are so funny...
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
↑↑ That's how you take a joke ↑↑

Thank you

& lol no need for everyone to get their panties in a bunch..

Just a simple joke because it was starting to get a bit too serious in here..

No harm done :)

None intended :good:

No more jokes like this I promise
[Ubuntu Touch General] Lesicnik1:
I heard it w does come pre installed, then its up to the OEMs whether they want to keep it
[Ubuntu Touch General] TheGman125:
Hey man.... People can't joke in something that isn't even out yet and they are looking to get really bad. This is life or death for some people.
[Ubuntu Touch General] alfiemenace:
Life or death?? ****ing stupid. Those guys should get a life

Stock ROM, custom user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TheGman125:
You really think it is a joke. A lot people are serious about custom rom and they make a lot of money customizing and allow people to use their ROM. You really need to respect the community and the people who make it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] dare2know:
Indeed.
[Ubuntu Touch General] alfiemenace:
Yes, I do recognize and respect that. But I seriously don't think life and death aren't the words to be used.

Stock ROM, custom user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TheGman125:
Those are the perfect words because again some people dont have jobs and they use the donation to eat and live life. So please explain that to me?
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Your talking about it in a developers point of view while alfiemenace is judging it from a users view; saying that people taking this joke seriously should get a life.. This argument is specific to the Ubuntu release. In that case life and death are too extreme choice of words. This isn't a necessity but generally speaking for a developer it might be, which I'm sure everybody here respects because without them XDA wouldn't even be possible.
[Ubuntu Touch General] alfiemenace:
Are you even a developer? Do you even know someone who is like that? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, according to their point of view. I can't respect yours, so yeah you can do the same to me, I don't demand such from your kind anyways. :)

This!

Stock ROM, custom user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
Here come the first app experiments from developers... A terminal app included :

http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/01/15/ubuntu-phone-sdk-experiments/
[Ubuntu Touch General] Carlos_Manuel:
Thanks for the link!

Now I would like to flash Ubuntu to my Nexus, but I think there is no navigation app for Ubuntu OS "yet?" which is not good because I need navigation app and only google maps or whatever it is in Ubuntu Phone OS it's not enough when I'm in abroad..

:)
[Ubuntu Touch General] Garner:
I got very giddy then i realised that its the SDK for app development, but thanks for the link anyway :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
that is a downside, agree.... I will miss the navigation too... but, I can live without it for the moment.. Maybe Google will make a smart move and provide and license their gapps service to manufactures of Ubuntu phone as well .. That way Google can track the Ubuntu users too ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] evil_penguin:
Lol
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
I highly doubt Google will provide their gapps to them since they are setting themselves up as rivals.. Why would they help canonical strive in the mobile market taking away their shares. Somebody might find a way to implement it but if I'm not mistaken I believe I saw a maps application icon on a YouTube walkthrough. They must have set something up already.

If anything Google will soon enough release their maps on it just as they did for iOS after they removed it
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Tell us more about how giving away a competitive advantage is a "smart move".
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Maps app icon is there
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "rectangles with rounded corners" aesthetic.
[Ubuntu Touch General] salahmed:
Ok that is better from the link of the leaked img you had post earlier. :p

Sorry if I was so tense about it....
[Ubuntu Touch General] krazykeyur:
The app development link above also has this photo

Photo clearly shows a map on the right screen.. looks like it's some sort of GPS map that tracks how much you have ran/walked.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TheGman125:
Does anyone thing that this would work on all the galaxy nexus variants?
[Ubuntu Touch General] neederishelp:
Since it uses the android drivers and kernel, I'd say yes
[Ubuntu Touch General] Febby:
Thanks for that! Do you think it would be hard for current developers on android to port or work on a ubuntu version of their app with the given resource? I hope not because I will then contact some app makers I use. :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Since they aren't even using the same language I really doubt that you'll get anywhere. You don't need to tell a developer a new OS is out, they know and either are or aren't planning to code for it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Febby:
Not all developers. The developers to the app i use the most have to be reminded by me about most bugs or suggestions. I'm there mentor for new creative updates. They didn't know about Android till gingerbread when I asked their team leader.
[Ubuntu Touch General] sunshean:
Can't wait no longer.....

want touch it
[Ubuntu Touch General] Segnale007:
Not really impressed. Beside gestures which I personally don't use and a messy UI, there is really nothing that convince me this OS will get to anywhere.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dragn4rce:
So I'm slightly confused. Would this work on any android phone. Like am entry level Galaxy Phone like the Samsung Galaxy II Exhibit 4G(SGH-T679)?

Also if this is one piece software of software that can work on any phone, How do it handle radios. Like the Toro, Toro+ and the GSM Nexus?

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[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Minimum specs are 1ghz A9 512mb ram and 800x480.

If it does it probably only supports GSM as is and anything else is up to the community.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dragn4rce:
Does it have to be an A9? Or can a scorpion work too? I apologize for being dumb.

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[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
A9 is the architecture.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Acvice:
A quick question to those of you who know a thing or two about these things...

We all know that GSM versions of mobile operating systems usually take precedence over their CDMA counterparts for reasons of scale. This has been the case in the past as well as with the Open WebOS project. We can only assume that the builds they plan on releasing in the next few weeks will be for GSM networks.. But what is the likelihood of a version with CDMA radio working? Is it something that, if Canonical doesnt release, we wont be seeing for a while?
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
CDMA isn't an open standard. So I doubt Canonical will bother trying to support it. Its not worth the headache.
[Ubuntu Touch General] rodmc123:
atleast in the demo it doesn't work very smooth.. it is laggy, and the way you switch between apps is a little akward, for example if you open 10 apps, and you wanna go to the first app you opened, you would have to slide your finger 10 times to go there (it is like sliding between pics in the gallery app) it is a lot more practical the way it is in android with a button from where you can switch between apps or close them. and if you wanna switch between apps similar to ubuntu you can use LMT and configurate it to slide between your apps sliding 2 fingers on the screen. i have to say , this didn't impress me at all atleast in the videos... i dont see better performance of the device or anything interesting, just a new way to do exactly the same you do now but with an uglier and less smooth interface.

anyway, i hope to be wrong and lets hope that the final version will be a lot more powerful than what we see in the demo videos.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Ashtrix:
Android is and will be Immortal :D !!

Ubuntu may lack community development, just like webOS , meego .
[Ubuntu Touch General] Justinhopaolo:
If ever this gets to our devices. Will the store still be Google play?
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
No. It will be its own store.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dragn4rce:
It might see see development now that it is gonna be able to run on android devices. And it's not just one device like the nexus. ;)

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