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[Nexus 10 General] GSLEON3:
I really like the Nexus 10 for HD movies & reading. I also have to be honest here though & if any of you have a Note 10.1 also & are running 4.1.1 or 4.1.2, you'll probably agree.

The Note 10.1 is all around better. The Nexus 10 is a better display, but that is about it, at least right now. The "better" processor of the Nexus 10, well it is not optimized, games stutter much more often than on my Note 10.1 & it's Exynos 4412. My Note 10.1 last probably 25% to 30% longer as far as battery life goes as well.

I basically use my N10 at night to read or surf, web reading I guess, & for movies. The colors are more life like, but the difference in movies between the two is not as big as you'd think. Text is where the biggest difference is. Color is better & images are cleaner, but it is like going to 1080p after watching 720p. Yes, it is nicer, but it is not a huge glaring difference. The Nexus 10 also lacks a lot of features that the Note 10.1 has, aside from the s-pen even. People complain about TW & Sense, but it is those additions that add so many useful features, at least for me.

So, I would recommend both tablets, depending on what your primary usage type is, I may recommend one over the other, but I really prefer the Note 10.1 & it's plethora of features over the Nexus 10's awesome display.
[Nexus 10 General] lightosx:
Awesome thanks, I might just get one! :)
[Nexus 10 General] Byemute:
Will change my ipad 3 for the n10 in the nexts 2-3 months. I like the android flavor more than ios jail :)
[Nexus 10 General] zidz:
I'll get my N10 tomorrow or the day after that. I've refreshing the site of the first Swedish N10 provider and today got a email telling that it's on it's way. I'll come back here with my opinion as soon I've calmed down with it in my hands ;) Wish me good luck.
[Nexus 10 General] scottws:
I really like my Nexus 10, but I am dying for Android 4.2.2 or whichever release is going to fix all these freezes, reboots, and crashes. 4.2.1 is EXTREMELY buggy.

Other than that, it is a great form factor and has an amazing screen. Very good performance as well. I can't wait to swath it in the Noreve leather case I ordered.
[Nexus 10 General] Dale M:
This is my first tablet, although the better half has an ipad.

I have had none of the issues that are being reported on. Two thumbs and two big toes up for me.
[Nexus 10 General] Jms122589:
I agree that 4.2.1 is pretty buggy, live wallpapers also seem to slow the thing down which makes no sense, over all however I love this tablet after coming from an iPad 2. I compared to a tf700 and note 10.1 before buying also
[Nexus 10 General] digitalrurouni:
I got the 16 GB version through Google and I love it. I have no light bleed. Sucker was unstable in chrome but I stopped using chrome and turned off location services and now the machine runs great. Battery life is awesome. It looks a lot better than I thought it would especially after seeing the pictures. I love this thing. And the best part of it being a nexus do vice is that it will get updated first. Awesome class leading screen exynos 5 soc can't ask for more.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
Well I was wrong, I thought flashing a custom rom stopped the crashing, freezing and rebooting but nope. I must have just not been noticing it because I got a Note 2 and have been using that frequently. Today was a heavy Nexus 10 day and it rebooted three times with slightly new behavior. Each time, the screen flashed artifacts all over it before rebooting.

I really dislike this tablet. My next tablet is going to be a Samsung Galaxy Tablet. Probably the whatever the newest Note that is available at the time or an iPad. The Nexus 10 might get updates sooner but who the hell cares if the updates are atrocious and unoptimized messes riddled with bugs.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...major-issues-plaguing-googles-newest-release/
[Nexus 10 General] stiggy2012:
With regards to your issue, getting artifacts on the screen prior to reboot suggests maybe a voltage/temperature issue. Are you undervolting, overclocking or increasing the throttle temps at all? Personally, I'm running CM10.1 with the standard CM kernel and its very rare for the tablet to reboot.

I must admit you are right to be mad though. You shouldn't have to flash an aftermarket kernel/rom and then further tweak settings etc just to get the tablet to perform properly. This tablet is clearly designed a test-bed for the SOC, allowing Samsung to iron out the bugs before they release their own tablets.

Make no mistake about it though, the note 10.1 isn't even close to as powerful. Better optimized for sure, and it has an easier ride with the old-school screen res, but it terms of raw power it doesn't even come close. You can see this in the performance of flash in websites, for instance: Flash is never well optimized for any SOC, mainly because Adobe suck donkey balls. Consequently, the N10 has by far the best flash performance I've seen on any android device. Blows the Note2 (which shares the same SOC as the note10.1) and the N4 I have out of the water completely. Similar story with transferring files via SSH.

It's important to remember than this is the first A15/mail 604 chipset out there, ever. As with the Mail 400, GPU performance should improve a lot as the drivers improve, and to a lesser extent I'd expect better optimization of the A15 cores in the N10 also. The standard CPU governor seems pretty lame.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
Im on the stock kernel and believe me I know the note 10.1 isnt anywhere near as powerful. And the screen on it blows in comparison. I was super giddy with excitement reading the specs on the Nexus 10 back in october/November. But the note 10.1 does function as intended and is much smoother. I know it's software. When people were rmaing for this issue I was the first to say that it was related to software but it's been almost three months. Can Google not fix such a crippling problem in that time frame? And how did it even get past quality control in the first place when it affects every Nexus device.
[Nexus 10 General] c2alston:
I actually like mine a lot and feel it was $450 well spent. I have the 32gb version, the only crashes I experienced was using Chrome browser. I have since just used Dolphin browser and now no crashes. I didn't root the device and don't plan on it. I have also have a Note 2 phone which I felt was a pretty fast smart phone and I still do. Man does this Nexus 10 make my Note 2 feel slow. As I have a Note 2 the Note 10.1 wasn't even in consideration as it didn't make sense for me to have two device with S-Pen's.

I use my N10 mostly for media consumption(which was my main reason for purchase). Of all the android games I've ran only Need for Speed had some fps drops. I bought an OTG cable for mainly hooking up a controller for emulated gaming. Emulated gaming is so nice on the N10 and so smooth.

No light bleeding so far, I use 100% brightness when viewing web pages (so crisp). I use 50%-60% when gaming and 80% when viewing movies.

Netflix, Hulu + and movies you drop on from Cpu just look outstanding. Any App I open is very quick to pop open and like the fact that everything syncs with my Note 2. The other tablet I was considering was TF700 which I feel is still a very nice tablet but I feel I made the better choice for myself. My buddy has the TF700 rooted and loves it, he does the same types of things I do with mine but he also has the OC going on which made is TF700 very fast.

I just wish there was accessories for the N10 and is my only gripe. I would like a dock or keyboard/stand it could connect too.:laugh:
[Nexus 10 General] lesonal:
Just sold my transformer pad !!!! gonna order one of these things in the next couple of days ...the suspense is killing me....I wet the bed this morning dreaming about it. oh boy can't wait to cuddle with my n10!! the soft plasticity back will be a lot more accommodating!! my Infinity pad used to hurt me :(
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
I notice lag all over my Nexus 10 and zero in my note 2. Especially in animations. Opening the app drawer and flipping through pages is a stutter mess as is dolphin browser. I never understood how anyone can use dolphin on this tablet. Pinching to zoom is unbearable laggy. The aosp browser (including ocean) is actually relatively smooth however. The keyboard lags behind button presses when I try to touch type on the thing (did not happen on my iPad or my friends note 10.1).

Home screen redrawing pisses me off to no end. There is no reason the launcher should need to reload every single time I use more than one app between home screen presses. This happened on the stock trebuchet launcher and nova.

The tablet is just unoptimized and a mess. I had to type this out twice because my tablet decided to reboot during the message after it crashed while typing. And this is definitely related to software because my friends nexus 7 and 4 both experience the same exact problem as do countless others as shown from android polices article on 4.2. You may not notice it rebooting because it often reboots when not in use. I will frequently pick up my tablet and go to check my tabs and find that they are all gone. I'll open my recent apps and none. The thing rebooted when not even in use.
[Nexus 10 General] MrSteez:
What did I just read
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
I lol'd a good bit :laugh: Hope the N10 is all you wish it to be :p
[Nexus 10 General] LxMxFxD:
I have to agree. I've had my nexus for 5 days now and I'm contemplating returning it simply because in tired of all the crashing.
[Nexus 10 General] lKBZl:
dafuq, is this real life? :confused:
[Nexus 10 General] c2alston:
Sorry to hear of all your problems but I have no lag on my N10 nor any stuttering when using Dolphin. No problem with pinch and zoom. I use the full size pc keyboard that you can change in the settings and I have no lag with that either. I have no crashes while posting, browsing or gaming......
[Nexus 10 General] robrob777:
I love it, with this new generation processor, 2gb memory and screen resolution it is a laptop replacement, my ipad 3 failed to do that because iOS is so constrained.
[Nexus 10 General] zidz:
Now I've used my new Nexus 10 (4.2.1) for a few hours and it's fast but not snappy.

But going from old Wifi-only Galaxy Tab 7" P1010 and it sooo nice using a Tab with a Tab UI and not the phone UI as is in Android 2.3.6.

No crashes has occurred yet But I've experienced WiFi problems, seemed to solve the WiFi issue force to Not use 5Ghz band.

No light bleed afaik.

I'll be back :)
[Nexus 10 General] jamesd553:
I like my nexus 10.. however

Its functional but a little bland. I have a galaxy sIII and seem to wish that some of the Samsung apps and features were on my tablet. Should I have gotten the Samsung 10.1 instead? I don't know. I really was wanted to see the nexus experience without the crapware that is usually loaded but I think Samsung seems to be getting it right. And with the new UI with multi windows going to the siii I am wondering who is going to be innovating the Nexus 10 in the future? Especially in the area of media sharing. I dont want to root my nexus and then use some untested 3rd party app to do what my phone does naturally. I think the mistakes that Motorola and other did in the beginning made the Nexus line necessary. But maybe now Google is the one who lacks the imagination to fully realize the capabilities of their device.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
I really never understood this. What kept the iPad from being a laptop replacement that the Nexus 10 somehow fills? The custimization? The iPad performs better and has more tablet optimized apps. Its not like either truly multitask.

I honestly never believe a tablet replaces a laptop. Even when I had my iPad (which I really shouldn't have sold for this to be honest) it was just an in between device I used for class to take notes on.
[Nexus 10 General] stiggy2012:
I can understand what he's saying perfectly. Things I can do on my N10 I couldn't do on my ipad:

Download something from the internet.

Assuming I got some crappy download app from the ios app store: Actually DO anything with the download once I have it.

Plug the device in, copy some stuff onto it without using itunes and converting it to the correct format first. Maybe copy a .doc or PDF even! :eek:

Torrents

Emulators

Flash on the internet

Share a file between two applications.

Save an email attachment.

With a little perseverance, there is very little I can't do on my N10 than I can on my laptop.

Also, Android DOES support full-on multitasking. IOS doesn't.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
Fair enough. I was genuinely curious because I couldn't imagine using either as a laptop replacement. My big issue with using it as a laptop replacement is all the Bluetooth issues that weren't present in my iPad. Example having WiFi and Bluetooth on at the same makes my zagg keyboard unusable due to delayed responses and repeating characters.
[Nexus 10 General] alteredlikeness:
Happy with it so far.. just got it yesterday and there is very minor light bleeding (not noticeable at all under normal circumstances), and no random reboots in the couple hours I was playing with it (and rooting it).

I am impressed. But keep in mind I am coming from a Motorola Atrix 2, so maybe I am easily impressed with anything that isn't locked-down, delayed/denied updates, and stuffed with bloat..

Anyway, it's mainly for the wife and kid to use so I can expropriate the laptop and make more nice things for my phone... but I am itching to try some custom ROMs and kernels (anything besides stock kernel would be "wow" to me - again, this is my first unlockable bootloader - I feel like a noob all over again).

Sent from my paranoid phone's mind

Edit: Osmos looks/sounds/plays great on this thing!

Also, everyone else get the "tiny phone syndrome" just after using the tablet? I assume so, but my phone feels so small and feeble in comparison with this beast.

And in response to the thread topic: I like it!
[Nexus 10 General] kosmab:
love my nexus 10

Love my nexus 10 but it makes using my galaxy nexus weird. Sometimes I look at that screen and wonder what just happened?! Hehe
[Nexus 10 General] rxzlmn:
it totally exceeds my expectations, just the software issues are a bit annoying. but it's not too much, and will be fixed eventually. I really like the multi-user accounts, but I don't like that the LED notifications cannot be triggered/modified with respect to them. so when my GFs account's facebook app gets a notification, the LED will blink even though my account is selected.

I also must say 16gb is really on the low low end, I already wanted to have more space, as it cannot even hold more than 2 HD movie files. also, for some reason bittorrent cannot save files greater than 4gb on the N10, even though the filesystem can handle those.
[Nexus 10 General] ismayilovali:
thankss )
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
I imagine it might be up to the app to decide how it handles the LED, but I don't think colored LED's were that popular previously, or notification LED's in-general (I can only recall a handful of apps that have a setting to toggle the LED; and only one that lets me change the color).

Also that bittorrent filesize issue is a bit strange. My guess is that it has to do with how the app was coded, and it might have, or be using legacy code that relates to FAT32 filesystems (either it's coded only to work with FAT32, or it doesn't recognize or have special instruction for ext4). I might recommend trying other bittorrent apps if you haven't already. If a bunch of bittorrent apps experience the same thing though, there may be more to it...
[Nexus 10 General] tuxdapenguin:
I love my nexus 10! A little over a year ago I had purchased a transformer tf101 in hopes of finally having an ultralight laptop replacement but it never got used much do to clunky software, low screen resolution, and other problems. So far my nexus 10 has had none of these problems. Google/Samsung did a great job on this tablet and it really does feel like this is a whole new breed of android tabs.
[Nexus 10 General] rxzlmn:
there's quite a number of phones with a notification led, and most apps support them (my old Motorola Milestone had one for instance, or almost all HTC phones). I don't want to toggle it in the apps usually anyway, what I want is to turn off the notification LED events from the user accounts of the N10 that are logged off.
[Nexus 10 General] BiblioBeckyM:
I like mine!

I definitely like mine! I got it as a Christmas present from Hubby, after asking for a reader/tablet. I know he did lots of research online before choosing the Nexus 10, much of it here. I know it was very helpful in his decision to buy a Nexus 10 & resolving some minor issues/problems he had setting it up. He's not the most tech savvy, so y'all did a great job with the details provided in plain non-jargon posts.

I know I'll be visiting here as I use "My Gizmo" for various things. I'm not used to a touchscreen interface, nor do I know much about the "innards" - Android Jelly Bean & apps.

The HD quality of the screen is phenomenal! True depth of field in pix & videos (when they're HD) - live wallpapers are resource wasteful, but do showoff the image quality. My only complaint is that the Google Play store does not have an easy means to find free stuff, especially music & it's not easy to browse less-popular apps/music/movies/TV ...
[Nexus 10 General] malctron:
I love mine, I've got my galaxy note 2 that's goes everywhere with me, and my new nexus 10 has replaced my HP touchpad and my iPad. Its a great device and is future proof. Unless Google do something crazy with android I think it will run all new versions of android.

The only problem I have had with it was cause of chrome crashing all the time, freezing the tablet then I had to restart. Switched to Firefox and I haven't had any issues. I hope they fix this problem as I quite like using Chrome.
[Nexus 10 General] Zeblade:
Did you try the beta Chrome? Somewhere on Store.
[Nexus 10 General] lesonal:
Love mine came from a tf700 ..... Not looking back!!!!
[Nexus 10 General] heaiser:
Got mine... Amazing tablet, but noticeable light bleed. Ordered a new one via rma. Fingers crossed.
[Nexus 10 General] Ed 115:
love it

been using my nexus 10 in conjunction with my gfs ipad gen 4....though the ipad color reproduction is better and some apps are better optimized...the nexus 10 is just funner to use and waaaay more options and features.
[Nexus 10 General] Wangta:
I love mine. No complaints here.
[Nexus 10 General] styckx:
Ok I've had mine for a good few hours now and feel qualified enough to write here as I've been down the new device road enough times now.

I looooooove it.. Holy crap.

1. It's sexy.. I've seen people say this feels `cheap' and `plasticy'. Not sure where that comes from but it feels solid to me. Love the design and flat black look.

2. Speed and performance. Wow.. I've seen people also saying it runs a little slow.. I haven't seen that yet but if you want slow, not meeting expectations and under performing.. Look in my sig.. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 would be it. Dual Core, Tegra 2 and it performed like sloth in an obstacle course of speed bumps. Turn it to portrait mode and it would lag even worse. That cost $500 when it was new also and was a bastard stepchild from day one. N10.. Not so much. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 I pretty much felt I wasted my money from day one. The N10 I feel like I made a legit investment. Compared to the Nexus 7 it's still faster and I ADORE that device.. But had to sell it so I could afford the N10 which killed me as I really really loved that damn thing.

3. Display. Incredible.

Worth every dime...
[Nexus 10 General] malctron:
Yeah I've tried that and it crashes less. Thanks, must be a bug in the newer high res chrome that comes stock.
[Nexus 10 General] beet87:
I do not change mine for anything
[Nexus 10 General] Traniz:
Hmm, my Nexus 10 didn't have Chrome when I got it.

I installed Dolphin on it though.
[Nexus 10 General] bobcat255:
I guess it's all a matter of perspective for some, but my wife got fed up with instability and I returned the tablet. What a nightmare the return process is.... I can honestly see why many consumers would just go with the iPad. As a fan of Google and Nexus I am extremely disappointed.

I'll wait until they get their act together before I buy anything else and in the mean time wife is pressuring me to buy an iPad mini so my son can play games on it.
[Nexus 10 General] bkmaracas:
Rma the wife?

:)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 10 General] styckx:
I nearly spit my soda on my monitor when I got down to this post.

:highfive:
[Nexus 10 General] bobcat255:
Lol... You guys are terrible ;)
[Nexus 10 General] styckx:
Ya know. It just hit me what I love most about my Nexus 10 besides how awesome it is... The USB cable

Samsung with my Galaxy Tab 10.1 - Short little USB cable that would allow you to do pretty much nothing while plugged in because it was just barely long enough to plug in somewhere and reach a table. Forget sitting in a chair, bed, or having it on your desk except hanging off the edge because you ran out of cable..

Asus with my Nexus 7 - Same exact thing. Stupidly short USB cord

The Nexus 10 USB cable is actually long and I can plug it in and position it on my desk in various areas with ease.. I can plug it in near my bed and actually lay in it while charging and not have the cord pulled so tight I could dry laundry on it.. None of this was possible with my other two tablets without buying a longer USB cord.

Sometimes it's the simple things too. :)
[Nexus 10 General] beeboss:
Mine arrives today and I'm very excited , read a lot of things about a lack of performance and instability , but still looking forward to my first tablet
[Nexus 10 General] killerapl:
Let us know of any light bleeding
[Nexus 10 General] beeboss:
So I've played the whole day with my n10 . Absolutely solid ,great build quality, light bleed is noticable on the max brightness on black picture ( small spot under front camera and by the right dynamic) I wouldn't even notice this if I wasn't aware of this to tell the truth :) Chrome choppiness is unacceptable for me so I've installed aosp browser which is silky smooth + franco kernel+ gpu rendering on = nice and smooth performance in overall:) :thumbup:

Отправлено с моего Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 General] chirpa12:
I love mine. My laptop has been seriously neglected.
[Nexus 10 General] Arun01:
I'd like to see what you speak of!! I plan on buying a note 10.1 & it doesn't matter how powerful a tablet is. It's all about the software being optimized for the device. That's why people love ipads even with 512mb of ram on 1 of the ipads it simply just works. So please show me a video of what you speak of. Thanks
[Nexus 10 General] zidz:
Sv: Who actually likes their nexus 10

I got no light bleed at all and no flexy back or other back braws. US device sold in Sweden :) www.bazula.se . May be a different/new batch.
[Nexus 10 General] kurono2:
I really like mine even with it's light bleed problems. I'm still in the 15 day period so I'm going to ask for a replacement, hopefully it's not as noticeable... I really want to keep it.
[Nexus 10 General] Jms122589:
So is there any fix for the awful WiFi reception? It cuts out every 10 min or so, has the worst trouble streaming videos of any kind, especially movies rented from the play store. I'm about ready to throw this thing at the wall. I'm running AOKP jan24 with whatever kernel comes with it. If had the same issue on stock as well.
[Nexus 10 General] Arun01:
Wow the nexus seems to have wifi problems like the TF201 did.
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
I'm assuming this is router-dependent. I have no such disconnects with my Netgar R6200 router on 5GHz. If I recall right on my SGT7, someone mentioned it had to do with having a "forever" time on the DHCP lease (you'd have to set it to something other than forever), but this was back on GB lol. Not sure if the same problem still occurs on JB.
[Nexus 10 General] Jms122589:
So what's the deal with this "forever time" is there something I can change on my tablet or is it router dependent