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[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
It's been tried on many devices, some with more success than others. Some phones, some tablets. Some as a dual boot system, some running Ubuntu inside Android.

Mr Shuttleworth does appear to say near the end that it shares the same kernel as android, so any hardware than runs on android, will run on Ubuntu Phone. This seems very positive for a number of reasons. If the kernel doesn't have to be changed to support it...

1) performance should already be pretty good.

2) some of the dev and porting work has already been done for us.

3) In theory, you could flash Ubuntu Phone to your current handset in the same way you flash the latest ROM from your most loved dev.

4) it is the start of the true convergence Shuttleworth discussed, where you can plug your handset into a monitor and work in "desktop mode" = Ubuntu for Android. Although this part is still a pretty grey area.

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Which would make sense - he didn't say that android apps would work on UP.

Also could lend weight to the rumours about the future of Nexus.... (bear with me here I know it could be complete fantasy :) )

If there are going to be multiple manufacturers as some have suggested, then their cold be different levels of handset giving multiple levels of desktop interface & integration.

For instance one could possibly be a lower, spec dual core handset that's aimed mostly at Android but also has the desktop function if needed.

And a quad(+)core "power user" handset developed with desktop as the primary focus.

Anybody else heard the rumours (and yes, they are exactly that and not based on fact as far as we know) that Google and Motorola are teaming up to make the next handset but it will not be called Nexus, but "X Phone".
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
This looks really cool! I have some questions though:

1. So from what I understand, there's a difference between Ubuntu for Android and Ubuntu for phones?

2. Is Ubuntu for Android dual-boot? Does it run alongside Android, or does it replace it? I mean, I guess most people would want to keep their Android OS along with Ubuntu.

3. And what about Ubuntu for phones? Will I be able to run both that and Android? It wouldn't be really necessary I guess, but it would be really cool to have both Ubuntu for phones and Android Jelly Bean. And dual-boot is already possible with the Nexus 7, right? So maybe it will be possible with the N4 too. The hardware is powerful enough.

4. The cool thing about Ubuntu for Android is that you use it as your computer (by connecting your device to a monitor), so that you can easily go on with your work if you travel, and then connect it with a monitor again when you're at home. So, is Ubuntu for phones going to do this? Will it work with normal Ubuntu? Basically, will Ubuntu for phones replace Ubuntu for Android? NEVERMIND. Just saw the Engadget hands-on. If you dock (which means connecting it to a monitor) your Ubuntu for phones phone (lol), you get the full desktop experience. That is awesome!
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
From what Shuttleworth has said in the videos and looking at the site he says these interesting things...

"It depends on the manufacturers to unlock the devices so you can install UP."

"UP is a full Ubuntu desktop"

So from this, I would say that if you have an unlocked (fully rooted Android handset) you can just install UP on to it.

The fact that Ubuntu for Android is still on their site as a separate page, I would think that this is a way for manufacturers to incorporate it into handsets that they do not want to let you unlock - keeping their brand control on the device after sales like many manufacturers already try to do

As for UfA, it's not dual-boot. It works alongside, and the processing and power is prioritised depending on which environment you are in.

I must admit that I am slightly confused by the definition, but the there are definitely separate pages on the Ubuntu site, which to me means separate products,
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
That's why Ubuntu phone is running on a galaxy nexus because the boot loader is easily unlockable. As for multiple nexus I don't think that's going to happen in the near future. I'm still not sure about Ubuntu for android whether it still exists or has Ubuntu phone taken over? Also in the video you could see Ubuntu phone already has some apps and games such as fob,twitter,maps and gmail are those apks?:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
I know, I can wish. Humour my creative thought process :)
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
#1 reason why I use android is gmail. How will gmail work on Ubuntu for phone? Remember there's no more Exchange support.
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
Thanks for your answer. My guess is that Ubuntu for phones will replace Ubuntu for Android. In the Engadget hans-on video he said that if you dock (connect it to a monitor) your device it automatically goes to desktop mode. Which is basically what UfA already did. Only now you also have a nice phone UI.

So you're saying UfA is NOT dual-boot, but you run it alongside Android? I'm a little confused, I can't picture it. Anyway, how do you think Ubuntu for phones will work? A totally seperate product (my guess)? Or also like UfA?

I guess dual-boot will be possible anyway. It's already possible with a lot of Android devices. I can't wait to run both Jelly Bean and Ubuntu for phones on the N4. And then I will also be able to get the desktop Ubuntu when I connect it to a monitor. Amazing :P
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
I'm so there already! :)

Sorry, Android who?

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On one of the videos he has a Gmail application, I'm guessing that would be a webapp.
[Nexus 4 General] TraNe15:
So when the flashable OS will be released? I'm excited about porting it to my device!
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
From their site...

"The phone is a huge milestone in the Ubuntu project. One that will generate a huge amount of excitement and get lots of attention. But this is just the beginning.

There are a few projects related to Ubuntu on the phone that are currently in the works, and we’d like to engage with community members that are interested in contributing to those projects before they are unveiled."

It may be a while. UfA was originally scheduled for April 2014, not sure if this has changed things?
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
Minimum 32GB? Does that mean no desktop convergence?
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
That's for phones that will come pre installed with the os. They want a minimum of 32gb for their "super phones" in 2014
[Nexus 4 General] TraNe15:
I thought that 2014 is shipping phones with ubuntu. As we all know, it's an open source project, so that they may release Ubuntu image for gNexus. Here is the link;

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/canonical-unveils-ubuntu-phone-os-that-doubles-as-a-full-pc/

Given that Ubuntu is open source, a full Ubuntu image that can run on a Galaxy Nexus will be available within a few days or weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Take a look here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N6eEDZva1W8

No rebooting involved.
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
Yeah, but part of what a superphone like that could do is desktop convergence. If a phone that has the OS pre installed needs those things, then why wouldn't any other phone like the N4?

What I'm afraid of is that we will need more than 16GB to flash/install the full Ubuntu phone OS experience, WITH desktop convergence and whichever other extras they have.
[Nexus 4 General] tim.smart:
Hah. Imagine dropping into a shell and:

apt-get install mplayer
mplayer /path/to/file

Or something along those lines. Would be pretty interesting.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
The N4 does seem to be awkwardly pitched in the middle - perhaps this is why it was so cheap, Google knew what was coming?
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
Seems to me that they have abandoned Ubuntu for android and this Ubuntu os replaces it as a competitor to android,iOS etc.

Edit:Ubuntu for android is not dead as stated, it will come to marquee devices in 2013
[Nexus 4 General] Raphael17:
Why should Google buy if we already have the option to?

*I DIDNT READ SO IF I REPEAT IM SORRY

With Android dont we already have a computer to phone workspace? I mean Chrome OS is just like our phones. And with something like the clambook (google it I cant post links) I feel that Ubuntu OS is just another flashy thing. Now I am not saying I wont try it hell I most certainly will! But the whole Ubuntu with one device thing is already done no?
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
So we need Ubuntu to install Ubuntu? Crap I just deleted my VM >_< I hate getting MTP to work, it's a pain in the damn ass.
[Nexus 4 General] tylerwatt12:
I just looked at the phablet-tools package, it refers to the same IMGs and ZIPs that were leaked earlier today.

http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/trunk/view/head:/phabletutils/settings.py
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I assume you are trying to be funny.
[Nexus 4 General] boykioy:
Sinced there are also zip files here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ why cant we use them and just flash it through recovery?
[Nexus 4 General] tylerwatt12:
because it requires overwriting the bootloader and recovery, something that you can't do while inside the recovery.
[Nexus 4 General] graffixnyc:
I'm thinking the ubuntu way just either fastboots the images or zips automatically you should be able to just flash the images or zip.

Has anyone who flashed the version that was leaked this morning flashed the new version? Anything different or is it the same version?
[Nexus 4 General] usmanhaider101:
Hahaha.. mate stick with android yet.. its real basic start for ubuntu ..
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
what .img do i download?? theirs loads and are their any instructions for flashing this with windows?
[Nexus 4 General] graffixnyc:
The version that was put up(and taken down) Early this AM you were able to flash in recovery. I flashed the quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip then the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip and everything booted fine, played with it a few minutes then restored my nandroid back up
[Nexus 4 General] boykioy:
whre it says that it will overwriting the bootloader? i dont think so.
[Nexus 4 General] cbloo21:
flashing Nexus 7 in progress :):D
[Nexus 4 General] jassycliq:
Try 13.04, MTP works out of the box. Literally just pops up with storage as soon as you plug in the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
No I don't think so, you have to use fast boot, that's what everyone is using.

Edit: the leaked version this morning apparently worked for some people.
[Nexus 4 General] graffixnyc:
Read my post a few back..

if you flash

quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip then

quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip in recovery, It will boot
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Oh, and no mobile data don't forget. Only wifi :(
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
Wish I read this before I started the install of 12.10 -_-
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
It said you can expect mobile data and calling to work :confused:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
I'm doing that now. I'm just waiting to finish ripping my android backup first before i wipe my phone again.

I will report back with any changes from the morning release to the "official" release.

Linux box all fired up and drooling...

I WILL CAUTION EVERYONE. THERE IS DEFINATELY A STRONG POSSISBLY TO BRICK YOUR PHONE.

I ran into it twice where it locked up and the hard reset wouldn't work. I lucked out after 10 mins of holding it and it reset.

I dont want to rip the cover off to reset it.
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
I edited my post before :)
[Nexus 4 General] jassycliq:
IIRC you can force the mtp drivers from 13.04 onto 12.xx. Google is your friend ;) I do recommend trying 13.04 though, much better IMHO
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
Im really stuck :( i dont get how to flash this....i understand fastboot etc but what .img's do i need? or even a process for windows...
[Nexus 4 General] CrazySpartan:
Is it just me or it is showing some weird pre existing contacts and messages?

Any idea how to change the time?
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
It comes with a dummy account, you can't set up your own
[Nexus 4 General] Aerys:
Its the exact same build as the "leaked" build
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
Yes, and I am going to call each and every one of them as soon as a flash the official build (muwh ha ha ha ha)
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
Yeah found a few guides ;), hopefully I can get this up and running within the hour, updating all this crap takes a while >_< wish I had some Fios right now.

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Try just fastboot flashing the images as you would the Google images, or follow the directions from the Wiki and get it going on Ubuntu.
[Nexus 4 General] Gsam101:
It doesn't. It overrides the "boot" image, which is the kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
Those are fake numbers lol
[Nexus 4 General] rcazador:
guys whats with the many img files for mako boot, system, recovery and one other. It all adds up to less than the 481 MB zip file. How is there such a difference in file sizes? When flashing zips do we still retain cwm or twrp after flashing?
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
thanks for that buddy, what .img's do i need??
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Okay like whats the correct order to flash this and i dont see a download link on the ubuntu page only our factory imgs srry i just came in here
[Nexus 4 General] cYbOrG5:
same here...no link where to download the img's
[Nexus 4 General] graffixnyc:
Search the thread!!!! There is a link to where the actual imgs are that you can DL. From the main site you they only give Linux install instructions
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
download from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ but i havent a clue which ones lol
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
So much easier to flash in linux. Don't mess with the .zips
[Nexus 4 General] EasyTiger6x13:
Has anyone tried flashing the zips yet with success? Really wanna flash but at work and wanna be assured its safe before I possibly brick.
[Nexus 4 General] lininjim:
After flashing through Ubuntu (grabbing 13.04 now), would this still retain CWM and my Nandroid backup? (ie could I boot to recovery and android my 4.2.2 back?)

Thanks

J
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
So we dont need the zips on flash the images?
[Nexus 4 General] robbiev80:
I use Linux Mint at work so I'm flashing Ubuntu on my Nexus 4 as I type. So far so good (flashing that is). I'll see if I can post some screenshots later.
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
what .img's do i need?? theirs hundreds lol
[Nexus 4 General] brenix:
Confirmed working on my N4 using the following instructions:

1. Download quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip and quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip from: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/

2. Push files to sdcard

3. Reboot into recovery (using CWM here..)

4. Flash quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip

5. Flash quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip

6. Reboot and enjoy :)

P.S.: This method retains CWM recovery. I haven't tried flashing the imgs via fastboot yet though..
[Nexus 4 General] cYbOrG5:
can someone *who knows* build flashable zip for the unfortunate like me who depends on twrp for flashing ??? pretty pls??
[Nexus 4 General] jfrag:
WTF Ubuntu 30 Ko/s to download .img !?
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
For peeople who really want a zip, there seems to be an "autodeploy.zip" created when you flash in linux
[Nexus 4 General] vickysud:
is radio working ?
[Nexus 4 General] DesignGrits:
So should I assume that TWRP will not work with this process?
[Nexus 4 General] graffixnyc:
I flashed with TWRP and it was fine
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Mako is our device name so only download mako the md5 files u dont really need unless u wanna check them but i still need to know more info on the steps to flash on windows and what does it wipe so i can backup ?
[Nexus 4 General] uio88:
Hi Brenix the flashing have wiped your internal storage?
[Nexus 4 General] brenix:
Hmm good point.. I can make and receive phone calls, but browser etc dont have any data connection :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
awesome, some helpful chap has posted a guide on how to flash this so ima gonna give it a bash lol is the radio working do you know??
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Anyone flashed the images also?
[Nexus 4 General] vickysud:
is it snappy ?
[Nexus 4 General] rtimoff:
you`ve flashed from 4.2.2 with its new bootloader etc.?
[Nexus 4 General] brenix:
Nope
[Nexus 4 General] cYbOrG5:
It says here radio (phones/sms works)..can anyone check? my DL is pretty slowwwwwwww

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
Got mine up and running, looks cool, can't wait until this is actually functional. Unfortunately the radio isn't working, but that might be because I haven't messed with any settings.
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
It seems that the zips are a preinstalled version what about the images would that be like a fresh install?
[Nexus 4 General] kgill7:
Mobile data is not supported, data is available via Wi-Fi only.

what it said on their site.
[Nexus 4 General] brenix:
Same... I bet it is because I have already flashed the 4.2.2 radio/bootloader etc... I'm not sure how ubuntu interfaces with the radio.. Maybe someone who hasn't flashed the latest radio could try..

Edit: hah... RTFM. I didn't see that on their site that data was unsupported.. Good lookin out! Wifi does work as stated...
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
I flashed both versions today.

MORNING LEAKED BUILD-

Radio .44 -Sensors borked, slow really slow and choppy

Radio .33 - Eveyrthing worked except phone calls and mobile data still slow

Official Build - via linux not zips

Radio .44 - Everything works except phone and mobile data (Im on tombile) - phone MUCH faster no choppy

Either build, phone and mobile data dont seem to work.

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well, I'm done for today. Definitely has potential. but far from useable.

Don't flash this for a daily use.

I'm going back to 4.2.2.
[Nexus 4 General] TingTingin:
Anybody have install instructions

PHONE SLOW CLICK ME?

_____________________________________

"If your doing the right thing then to hell with everyone else -Deadly"​
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Maybe we need to flash the boot img system img then proceed flashing the zips what u think?
[Nexus 4 General] Irvysan:
Ubuntu 12.10 Touch Preview - N4 Files

Mirror of all files for the N4 :

http://d-h.st/users/Irvysan/?fld_id=11233#files
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
Also forgot to mention, if you do the linux install, your nandroid backup through CWM will still be there to restore.
[Nexus 4 General] leventccc:
http://leventc.homeip.net/files/ubuntu/

I put grouper and mako specific files and phablet file to my home apache server.
[Nexus 4 General] trees247:
can someone get this on video?
[Nexus 4 General] dmue:
Where i can find the settings?
[Nexus 4 General] erikwervo:
someone did that (flash all the image etc) with the leaked version, and confirmed has no different with flashing 2 zips only.

but i dont know if something new with the official one.
[Nexus 4 General] cYbOrG5:
this is a very good question as my backups are in the sdcard. Do I have something to go back into?
[Nexus 4 General] vickysud:
Ubuntu on Nexus 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IohrSmurvqg&feature=player_embedded
[Nexus 4 General] sebbo90:
Two questions which I assuming aren't possible as this is a Dev build, but

1) Can you close down any of the running apps and how?

2) Can you add contacts?
[Nexus 4 General] leventccc:
No it doesn't wipes the storage. Tried it on nexus 4 and 7 both of them still have all the files.
[Nexus 4 General] Sebring5:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

Everything you need is here including list of what works and what doesn't as well as instructions for fixing a variety of issues.
[Nexus 4 General] sideslippy:
To close a running app, you have to be in the running app that you want to close, then swipe from the bottom to the middle, theres a square with a magnifying glass that launches a task switcher kind of thing, from there press the X on the bottom.

yes you can add contacts, in the phone app swupe up from bottom to reveal menu bar and tap add, you have to swipe down keyboard then swipe up menu to save the contact
[Nexus 4 General] shadowkay:
Can you give the steps to install it ? Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Jbele:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip
[Nexus 4 General] shadowkay:
SO flashing this img alone will do ?
[Nexus 4 General] Irvysan:
as far as i can see if you flash the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip along with quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip your getting a "live" image, a preview if you will, it uses casper
[Nexus 4 General] 3rdeyer:
Guys, this method is the easiest. I tried it and it works fine, except I find it unusable due to too many essentials things that are lacking. The nandroid that is saved in CWM is saved after installing ubuntu and can be reflashed easily.
[Nexus 4 General] sideslippy:
That AND the file that is ~480 MB. It's called quantal.preinstalled.phablet..zip or something similar

I installed with TWRP without wiping anything and just made a NANdroid backup before.
[Nexus 4 General] lininjim:
I installed it as per the already mentioned methods of copying the two zip files to my SD card and flashing from CWM.

I made a Nandroid backup first.

The first time I did this I then did a wipe date, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and fix permissions.

It didn't boot.

Went back into Recovery and flashed the two zips again and it booted.

It's a lovely developer preview but no way ready for daily use yet. Too many things not working, no mobile data for example (wifi is ok).

Didn't get much sound from it either.

Camera worked, phone dialed and received calls.

I went to the GMAIL icon and put in my details and it asked if I wanted to download the app, I said yes and it gave an error trying to download the GMAIL app from itunes!!

I couldn't get the page to go back from there so have now restored my Nandroid and that's fine.

Looks great, will definitely have another go when it's a complete working system.

The two files required are :-

quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip

quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip

I'm mostly repeating other peoples input here but I hope it helps.

Cheers

J
[Nexus 4 General] shadowkay:
Thanks Giving it a try :)))
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Successfully flashed the two zips and its ran pretty snappy this os has potential that was a nice lil taste of the future now back to android
[Nexus 4 General] asci:
So you simply restored the nandroid backup with CWRecovery like we would with whatever Android ROM restoring? To put the device in recovery mode we have to use always the same combination?

THX!
[Nexus 4 General] singlebyte:
If anyone wants to try the Ubuntu navigation bar on their android, you can download an app from the market called "glovebox". Gives you a sense of what Ubuntu offers.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.glovebox
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
What icon set is that?
[Nexus 4 General] lininjim:
Yes mate that's what I did :)

Cheers

J

(powered off, held volume down and power)
[Nexus 4 General] gaurav.c:
Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview First Impressions - The OS is pretty smooth, smoother than I expected actually.

The UI is fresh and feels great to use. They have the right idea to handle multi-tasking.

Gesture based navigation is the future!

While I can't use this as a daily driver (it wasn't meant for that anyways) yet, I would definitely recommend it to everyone to try at least.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say if Android (KLP) doesn't have a new gesture based UI with and a better way to handle multi-tasking then it's going to be in deep ****.

I'm very impressed with the OS, can't wait for a build that I can use as a daily driver.
[Nexus 4 General] speedyjay:
any idea how to delete inbox messages??