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[Nexus 10 General] Ted C.:
Mine keeps getting better....

with each power cycle. ;). Fast and responsive, smoooth scrolling with no lag, no random re-boots, no WiFi drops, acceptable battery life, excellent sceen resolution with life-like color, and the light leakage at the display bottom corner has no impact on my useage. What's not to like? :victory:

Probably need to get rid of my Nexus 7 (give it to one of my sons). :crying:
[Nexus 10 General] falconoble:
I discovered a long time ago that I'm just not a tablet person. The iPad 3, as great as it was, simply didn't have a place in my life. The Nexus 7 was my first ever Android device and as much as I loved that, I stopped using it once I got an Android phone. I never thought I'd get a tablet again, at least not for a long while.

The Nexus 10 changed my mind. Quickly. Buttery smooth, amazing display, and great battery life. Some light bleed but I got over it before long.

So yes, I actually love mine.
[Nexus 10 General] Smeech99:
Loving mine so far!!
[Nexus 10 General] mermoid:
I love mine but unfortunately due to the screen issues I've had to opt for a refund and will be sadly relinquishing my Nexus 10(s) in the next week or so. Much as I love the device for the most part, I'm just not willing to get into an endless cycle of replacements in search of one with a decent screen. It's by far the best tablet I've ever used so I really am very disappointed it's come to this - I may check it out again in a few months if the quality control has improved.
[Nexus 10 General] lesonal:
I love mind just wish the screen colors were better
[Nexus 10 General] syraz:
Love mine, first real tablet, I have a nook color running jelly bean *which runs pretty decent on it* but wanted something bigger for multimedia viewing while at work.

Build quality so far so good, speakers work great, the screen looks awesome. Really no complaints so far. Waiting for my case and micro usb to usb adaptor so I can run emulators on it with controller..all in all worth it. Went to only staples here in Portland that had it to get it..Still yet to unlock or root it, not finding the need at the moment.but the lack of modding the nav bar is starting to get to me.
[Nexus 10 General] nissmo66:
I absolutely love mine, my only real compliant is the lack of accessories from Google/Samsung.
[Nexus 10 General] traveye:
what do you guys mainly use you N10 for? I've had the original galaxy tab for forever, and i'm considering the N10, but I'm not sure I've used my tab enough to justify the cost of a new one. I'm mainly using my Galaxy Tab for a remote for my HTPC/XBOX/Smart TV. And reading magazines. What do you guys think?
[Nexus 10 General] permutations:
I love my Nexus 10. I was nervous buying it because of the mixed reviews, but I have absolutely no light bleed (and I looked carefully), the WiFi is strong (I've read complaints about that, too), and it's rock solid (no reboots or crashes like some have reported). I returned an Asus TF700T to buy this. The TF700 was unstable and crashed constantly - especially the browser, which I use heavily. I drove me nuts. I'm a heavy user. I like apps and I like to have a lot of things going at once. The Nexus is super-fast, has a lovely 2GB of memory, and it doesn't crash, The speakers are front-facing and good quality for a tablet. And the screen is just amazing - the resolution is so good it doesn't even look like a screen. Plus it's lightweight - a little lighter than the TF700 and the iPad 4.
[Nexus 10 General] DaLuigi3:
i love it too!!! It is a very good tablet.:laugh:

Only thing i hate is that you can't stream/buffer while screen off or surfing or doing something other, but this is a software thing not nexus problem.

hope it will be changed in near future because not all people have a super fast internet connection:crying:

greetz
[Nexus 10 General] fathomx9:
I'm loving this thing so far! I rooted it as soon as I got it and put AOKP on it. I've also put the new XAF XBMC build on it with the re-touched skin, works great! I'll be trying to set up some emulators this week.

I was extremely nervous to buy because of so many posts about light bleed but went ahead anyway, and I'm glad I did.
[Nexus 10 General] vtracer20:
Odp: Who actually likes their nexus 10

I nad my brother purchase mine stateside AS i live in Poland. I personally like the device, granted its a detuned Galaxy tab 2 for the price ITS a great buty. Not to mention you have the latest updates from google.
[Nexus 10 General] remixedition:
I have had my nexus 10 for about a month and just started having random crashes, maybe 3 so far. I love my tablet but are the crashes more of a concern than I believe?
[Nexus 10 General] irishrally:
Have you updated to 4.2.2? It might be a good time for a fresh start, backup, wipe, and flash the factory image and bootloader.
[Nexus 10 General] iamikon:
I love mine. Especially with a bluetooth keyboard. The colors arent a problem with mine but a couple custom kernels are working on this. Specifically ktmanta. The reboots were part of 4.2.1 so updating to 4.2.2 should be a priority and resolve this.
[Nexus 10 General] rp3:
I like mine. Bought second hand. I'm sure there's light bleed... but I don't use the tablet in pitch black so I haven't noticed. The screen is bright when reading PDFs (which I do alot of) and playing games. I find it to be fast. Games are smooth and 2D animation is butter. I have unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom rom and kernel with no issue. I like that many of the developers I've trusted over the years with my phones and tablets now have this tablet. This is important as every time I flash a rom or mod I am entrusting a $200-700 piece of electronics to the developer's skill.

I like the battery life but don't like the charging speed (5-6 hours from dead to full charge). I like how fast the tablet is... the other electronics in the house are my LG Optimus G and my wife's IPad 4/IPhone 5 combination and there's no weak-link feeling. I haven't taken a picture with the tablet. Video conferencing is fine though my wife says there's alot of background noise relative to my PC (which does noise reduction). 32GB is less than 80GB so no leaving 20 2gb games installed... that's where titanium and the cloud come into play. The speakers are good... though my having just owned the Kindle Fire 8.9 and Note 10.1 has me spoiled in tablet speaker quality. I like the weight... it's about the same as Infinity and Note 10.1.

I like the feel of the tablet with the soft-touch plastics. I hope Samsung takes the design language from this and it inspires the Tab 3 bodies as the Note 10.1's flex is a stain on Samsung's reputation (I bought the note discounting the androidpolice review and put it back on ebay within 48 hours). I'll go further and say I hope somebody makes a thin high end phone with a grippy soft-touch plastic back that feels as solid as the Nexus.

Wish they had the official cover available. I use a Moko Ultra-slim which is very good with a slim profile.

Very few pieces of electronics are perfect... but in the pre-2013 MWC world... the Nexus 10 is great in it's strengths and is without any fatal flaws.
[Nexus 10 General] Zhohner:
I'm extremely happy with my Nexus 10. It does all the things I want/need it to do, whether it be university work, gaming or general productivity. It's fast, feels good in the hand and has a gorgeous screen. Definitely one of my better buys this year. :D
[Nexus 10 General] remixedition:
I am stock as stock can be and I am running 4.2.2.
[Nexus 10 General] Dannyada1988:
Battery sick

Except for the bad battery, Nexus 10 is really awesome, especially for games.
[Nexus 10 General] sackynuts:
I just got mine and i like it, allthough it has lightbleed..
[Nexus 10 General] planet_x69:
32GB model from wally world....no issues, if there is light bleed i either dont notice or just dont care since most of the time 99% of the time there are images on the screen you would never notice it in any case.

Battery is just fine and lasts plenty long even heavy use.

Work of caution is widgets! Widgets are your enemy, be sure to watch and see what's sucking your battery (settings, battery) many an innocuous widget has ruined a tablet/phone users experience by being a power leach. (beautiful widget 6x1 weather, clock forecast comes to mind!) Sure they look good, but without a true dock that will charge while screen is on, you have to be careful.

Love the device and prefer it over the ipad and xoom i also own. Rooted and custom recovery installed - to allow backups and adfree to run. Otherwise stock OS and I've never had any issues.
[Nexus 10 General] vawlk:
Love the 10. Yes mine has a bit of light bleed but I don't really notice it when there is something on the screen. I'm just not that picky.

People rarely complain when they like something.
[Nexus 10 General] Cintra2:
Happy with my Nexus 10, but..

Two things spoil my feelings for the Nexus 10 a touch.

The day after I first started using the device I woke to a dead device. Could have sworn it was switched off, but even so the battery was lifeless. Scary!

The other thing I discovered yesterday - there are no CPU temperature sensors.

Not only did this surprise me, (my three other Android devices have them) but I was surprised by the lack of search results pointing this out. This thread has one of the results :)

There are a few issues with text size on some of the apps I use, but they will be sorted out in time I feel sure.

All in all a great device, well worth the money.
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
There was a huge conversation about it on I think KTManta's kernel thread. When trying to figure out what to do to handle the thermal throttling (in the past, you couldn't even stay at 1.7GHz long, and it would throttle agressively downward to even 700Mhz, along with GPU and memory frequencies, causing stuff like games to slideshow) a user discovered that the CPU temperature may be linked to the battery temp (I believe someone else got a thermal image that showed the CPU and battery having similar temps).

I believe it was also said that CPU temps are based on an algorithm involving CPU load, time at load, frequency, voltages, and maybe some other stuff. But no, there is no actual sensor, which is really strange...

4.2.2 fixes the throttling a good bit though, which is nice. Custom kernels also handle thermal throttling in decent ways too.
[Nexus 10 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Had it since release date. Never put it down.. Favorite tablet at the moment .
[Nexus 10 General] stonebear:
Me too. :)

Love it.

My only complaint is how hot it gets in games and thus the thermal throttling, I bought a tablet with a 1.7Ghz processor not a 1.2Ghz! lol

However it still plays the games fine even when it does throttle.
[Nexus 10 General] oliverpuczyk2:
The whole reason I got it was because I wanted to play StarCraft on the go, get great battery life and have many different Roms to try. It goes above and beyond everything I ask it to, doesn't hurt that it was also free for me
[Nexus 10 General] BamAlmighty:
I can't be the only one that only gets 5.5 to 6 hours of battery life out of this thing and that is only from Web browsing.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
I only get 3 hours while watching Netflix at max brightness. Battery life is awful. My note 2 gets over six.
[Nexus 10 General] CRimsonEagle:
Yes and no

I love it, its fast and easy to use.

But...

I have a creeking back and lightbleed, I dont mind the lightbleed but the creeking back is freakin annoying...

I returned but the one given back to me was even worse. Shame on Google.

Overall I like it if you can get over the above features.
[Nexus 10 General] iamikon:
We have double the pixels to push around so that makes sense. On a side note why full brightness? The screen is really bright indoors even at min brightness.

XDA HD - Nexus 10 - my Unicorn has KTPUB wings....
[Nexus 10 General] eusousuperior:
Dissapointed

I am actually disapointed. My wife has an ipad and i think ipads are much smoother overall.
[Nexus 10 General] jimh425:
With 4.2.2, I like mine even more.
[Nexus 10 General] permutations:
I'm sure that is a battery drain, but full brightness is so bright it hurts my eyes. Why do you use full brightness?

I haven't measured exactly how long my battery lasts, but it's way over 3 hours. I use the N10 periodically throughout the day and more heavily in the evening. When I go to charge it before bed, there is still juice left in the battery.

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What software are you using that tells you when thermal throttling is occurring? How do you know the temperature of the CPU and the actual speed in GHz?
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
Watching dark movies in between classes in bright light requires max brightness and even then its not quite bright enough for a clear picture. The only time max brightness hurts my eyes is darkness where I never use it.
[Nexus 10 General] permutations:
Weird. I've seen many comments like this (light bleed, anyway, and some other problems - never heard "creaking back" before). It seems there have been some bad batches because I have none of the hardware problems that have been reported. My Nexus 10 has zero light bleed, nothing creaks, and the WiFi is solid (another thing I've read many complaints about).

Where did you get yours? Maybe there's a distribution pattern. I bought mine at a Walmart in Northampton, MA (US) on February 10th.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
My iPad at max brightness lasted over 8 doing the same tasks. And as I said in my previous message. Dark movies between classes in brightly lit hallways.
[Nexus 10 General] permutations:
Are you talking about outside? The only LCD I've ever been able to see clearly outside was the TF700T in IPS+ mode. That was quite amazing. It's a super-bright mode that I was even able to see clearly in full sun on Christopher Street Pier (in the middle of the water). That is the one and only thing I miss about the TF700T, which I returned for a variety of excellent reasons. The TF700T also had an option for a dock which contained a second battery under the keyboard to power this super-bright mode.

In general, I tend to use tablets indoors - they sit next to the couch. I look stuff up when I'm watching TV. Or maybe I want to check email without getting up. I also like them for reading books. It's a little too heavy for me to want to carry around. I have a great phone - that's enough "computer" for me to carry around. If I were between classes, I'd be more likely to read a book (which I can do on my phone) than watch a movie outside.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
The ipad was perfectly viewable outside but I'm not even talking about outside. The glare is awful in a brightly lit halway between classes.
[Nexus 10 General] permutations:
I have an iPad and I've used it outside (though I rarely use it at all anymore). The TF700T outside in IPS+ mode is vastly better. It's hard to describe how much better. I'm talking full sunlight on a pier, out in the water where it can't get any brighter. It was so bright out I needed dark sunglasses. And yet the TF700T screen was easily and clearly visible, with colors as fully saturated as if I were indoors. It was amazing.

As for glare... That's easily fixed with an anti-glare screen protector. I don't use my N10 outside so I don't bother (gorilla glass doesn't scratch very easily), but I have one on my iPad. I can't remember the name of the company that makes the really good ones.
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
I do thank you for the suggestions but I wouldn't put an anti glare screen protector on my nexus 10. I dislike the grainy look it gives devices. The iPad was pretty sufficient for me outside. I wouldn't go for the Asus tablet because of the issues it had. The ipad was a good package and I really shouldnt have switched yet. I think one more year would have given me a better impression of android on tablets but now I've got the sour taste in my mouth from the reboots and battery life. I love my Note 2 but I may go back to the ipad when the next one comes out or if some sweet looking windows tablet comes out or go to a Note 10.1 tablet if Samsung releases one with a great display. No more nexuses for me for awhile.
[Nexus 10 General] permutations:
I agree with you about the issues with Asus hardware. It was a nightmare. The only thing about the TF700T I miss was the IPS+ mode. That's why I returned it and got the Nexus 10 instead.

I got the TF700T because I was disgusted with my iPad. :) I've had it with Apple (don't get me started). Doesn't iOS seem horribly lacking after using Android? Which iPad do you have?

I thought about the Windows tablet. I have a friend who does work for Microsoft (freelance - he writes articles and books, and gives talks) and he got one before they were on the market, so I got to play with one very early. It's nice and I thought about getting one, but I think it's going to lose in the marketplace, and I didn't want to go with a loser. There aren't many apps for it, and it doesn't help that Windows Phone is bombing. My phone is Android, and if I get an Android tablet, all the apps I bought for my phone can go right onto my tablet - saves $$, and with Google backup it makes setup very easy.

And also, I love my Nexus 10! I don't have the problems with it that you have. The battery life on mine is really good. I don't use it at full brightness (that would hurt my eyes). Maybe mine is brighter than yours. I can't imagine having to turn it all the way up to see a movie, even in a bright room. I've never been bothered by glare, particularly. I have no light bleed. It's very stable, especially since the 4.2.2 update. The WiFi is rock solid. I don't have any of the problems I've heard people complain about. I have it loaded to the gills, and it works really well. I'm very happy with it.

Plus I like that the stock OS on Nexus tablets is pure Android without modification. I thought about the Note 2 because of the pressure sensitivity, but Samsung heavily modifies Android and then doesn't stay current with Android updates (and I don't like most of the Samsung enhancements). I like that Nexus tablets get the latest versions of Android first.
[Nexus 10 General] iamikon:
+1

XDA HD - Nexus 10 - my Unicorn has KTPUB wings...
[Nexus 10 General] NickTheMajin:
I had the third iPad and yeah iOS is lacking compared to Android. The OS is boring and nowhere near as functional. But for what I use my tablet for (Netflix, web browsing, reading) the iPad was just fine and functioned better than my nexus 10 does because of the battery life and brighter screen (And lack of rebooting was a pretty large plus ;)). Its not that I'm unhappy with my nexus 10, I just had a better experience with the iPad.

I'm not going to sell it or anything for awhile though. At least till a more finished Ubuntu is released (Months away).
[Nexus 10 General] jimh425:
I like mine and have had reboots and freezes sometimes. I'm hoping a software update will make it better.

I've asked around and the other alternatives hang as well. My wifi is a lot better than my wife's ipad, and most of the other issues have been mentioned for other brands/models of tablets.

I do have light bleed, but not to the extent that it bothers me. I agree that the software could be better, but I guess Google and Samsung don't believe in testing or at least good testing. :) For sure, Apple doesn't. I guess it doesn't matter because we buy them any way.
[Nexus 10 General] jellydroid13:
Perfectly said! I was going to reply with my reasoning but Jotokun here summed it up perfectly.
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
There's slightly weaker processors on other tablets that don't throttle under "general" (I would consider any kind of gaming general) use. I'm somewhat certain my Nexus 7 didn't even have an issue of throttling (none that was noticeable anyway). Does the iPad 4 throttle? (not that this would be easy to find out regardless)

What's the point in having a 1.7GHz processor, if you can't use 1.7GHz for extended periods of time? 1GHz is what the device ramps up to on touch (interactive gov) and a game I tried worked fine at 1GHz (well, it was smooth anyway; really wish game developers would put FPS counters in games...).

It would be almost like me advertising a CPU for having 5GHz, but the part I left out is you can only use the 5GHz frequency for 1 minute, and after that minute, your clock frequency will drop. Would you buy a processor without question that mentions that? I guess a non-technical person might look at that and see the high frequency and buy it regardless, but a stable, non-changing frequency is better for performance.

I do realize that there is no heatsink on the chip itself, but I would think throttling to only occur under extreme conditions (sitting in the desert somewhere with a heater pointed at the N10 back and trying to run a game at 1.7GHz) or when overclocking. In other words, it should be something a normal user shouldn't ever experience.

My graphics card is advertised to have a speed of 950MHz on the core clock. It keeps a 950MHz on the core clock through general use and gaming. Therefore, it is meeting expectation. Taking off the heatsink on my GPU would cause temperatures to reach critical levels, and cause the clock speed to drop to 450MHz. This is an extreme situation, and is in no way something that a normal user should consider doing.

TLDR: Your not getting the 1.7GHz of performance Google is advertising for an actual "useful" period of time, and if you buy the Nexus 10 and expect to, your going to be disappointed (for now anyway).

Edit: It should also be noted that there is no temperature sensor for the processor. A user reportedly did tests by having the CPU at a cold temperature, and throttling still occurred. Temperatures are generated based on an algorithm, that is based on voltage, frequency, load, and time (I think). In other words, if you put a giant heatsink on the processor and/or pour liquid nitrogen all over it, you'll still throttle.

Don't get me wrong though, I do like my Nexus 10 tablet :) Just knowing it won't reach "full" potential (currently) is a bit frustrating...
[Nexus 10 General] ZanshinG1:
Is there any conclusive evidence that this is the case in every Nexus 10 out there and not just in people running a custom kernel?

For the record, I can play NFS:MW for hours without a single frame drop, stock.
[Nexus 10 General] dust.:
Oh really?? Hmm am I going to have to try stock...
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
Running StabilityTest (ROOT optional) for a while (CPU + GPU Test) should show current CPU frequency, and then after a while, show the frequency drop in increments of 100MHz.

There "is" a way to show if the CPU is throttling or not from logcat I believe, I haven't actually noticed though.

On stock (for me anyway, and a few others have also reported this) NFS:MW will play fine, and then framerate will drop, and then go back to normal. I have no idea how to really "prove" FPS values though, other then using a 60FPS camcorder to record a race on your N10, and then judge by eye manually.
[Nexus 10 General] dust.:
This is the case for me right now and I don't think an FPS camcorder is necessary... it's pretty apparent just by looking at the screen that there is a definite drop in framerate.
[Nexus 10 General] whatnow275:
I love how easy it is to hold one-handed
[Nexus 10 General] jonstrong:
Love my Nexus 10. No light bleed issues, runs beautifully, wonderful screen, great form factor, fast and fluid.

beamed from my Nexus 10, far, far away...
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
I'd say just buy one, but also take note of exchange times and/or refund periods depending on where you buy from.

Mine came with very slight bleed, in the bottom-right corner, that is only noticeable on a black/dark screen at max brightness, so it's not something I pay any attention to in most cases. Some people seem to have it a lot worse though, and I wouldn't really blame them for finding it disruptive.