yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III General] kondronaute:
I do not know why people are eager to flash the new bootloader...:crying:

as regards the mem Exynos bug you have the kernel siyah...or other solution for wait ... or le stock kernel of ella without bootloader (flash it with mobile odin)

if you are under warranty for a few months wait a bit...

I'm sure the great masters here will find how to tweak triangle away or how unlock the bootloader.

someone find how to go back with ota ... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36315180

for those who are not under warranty you have nothing to do with the exclamation point so update your telephonne!

the only risk is that samsung made ​​a mistake and are bootlaoder

is bad in this case I think it will provide the solution

for me : i have 6 month left warranty, i flash it with mobile odin and i am using siyah kernel! i am waiting

for bootloader that the masters solve the pb coz i use custum recovery = Recovery: ClockworkMod Touch 6.0.2.7

good luck to all :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
Shall i flash the LLA rom or jst wait??
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
The bootloader is not locked if it was you would not have Siyah or CWM, in fact you would not be rooted because that is what locked bootloaders prevent.

The only way our devs would be able to stop the red ! appearing is to recode the bootloader, which will not happen. If you are on the new bootloader here's a thing don't care unless you either want to return to complete stock or need a service, that is the only time the flash counter needs resetting.

If you do need service if you can't reset the flash counter they probably will not even know you have flashed anything, or they will know you have CWM installed, if I worked at a service center recovery would be the first place I would look.

TL;DL flash counter means nothing unless you need service, if you need service you will either be able to reset the counter and return to stock before you take it, they will not know because the memory will be too damaged or anyone with half a brain will know you have flashed. So enough of this New bootloader sux talk.
[Galaxy S III General] sam77744:
when u use triangle away app, after that u go dricetly downloadmoad and u flash ella by pc odin .after complit flash rom reset factory resat. I am 100% sure after that ur counter is 0 n gone red exclamation. sorry for my English brother.

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sure, its fast and steble as ever. sorry 4 my English brother.
[Galaxy S III General] sam77744:
and good battery life
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
can anyone tell us how reliable the exynos mem bug checker app is??? thx folks

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for those who are determined to get rid of the infamous red exclamation mark, based on my personnal experience with this matter, I can tell you this :

1. if you flash ella through pc odin YOU WON'T GET RID OF IT, no matter how many times you run triangle away (it just resets counter and status, no more). besides you loose root, in which case what's the point on being on xda threads???

2. if by any miracle, you get rid of the red exclamation mark, it'll be back as soon as you root again

3. for me, the way out of it was to triangle away, then flash ella through mobile odin. thus I got rid of the red exclamation mark, while still having root. Everyhthing works fine, (kies, ota,etc..).

4. I take it that as long as one sticks to mobile odin red devil will not appear; but should one flash, subsequently, through pc odin or cwm, it'll be back.

This my personnal experience, hope it'll work for you too (no reason why not).
[Galaxy S III General] Kenshiro79:
Believe me I have tried in all ways .. But it will not! Yesterday I also brick, still waiting for some solution, otherwise I sell my cell phone

Send From My S3 Italian
[Galaxy S III General] Perka:
There is a way to go back to old bl.

The OTA way :) a thread was made some days ago.

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Any one got the OTA update in Netherland?

If so can you pls dd the modem.bin?

Pm me for info on how to dd the modem :)
[Galaxy S III General] Ra1n3R:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2083860

This way works, back to old bootloader and triangle away runs
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
Now, that is already proven how much BS the "fix SDS" is, we can conclude that the title should be changed?
[Galaxy S III General] ricnar456:
No proof of fix no proof of no fix of sudden death.

Ricnar

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Theoretically, there's proof that there indeed was an exynos-mem fix as Chainfire's test app fails to acquire root (despite it says your phone still is vulnerable but it only checks what permissions the exynos-mem file has in the kernel)

You're right though that there's no proof of a sudden death fix, and everything so far are just speculations until Samsung themselves say it's been patched and fixed, though I highly doubt it has.
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
read from here on. for me is proof enough.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36387849&postcount=2433
[Galaxy S III General] Perka:
Also you can push to sdcard then dd the bl.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
So we can actually force an old bootloader to flash? Let's say I run ELLA (UltimaROM 8) and I have the ELLA bootloader. If I take an ICS bootloader image, and dd it to mmcblk1, will it work or throw and error?
[Galaxy S III General] Perka:
Works fine

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2081748
[Galaxy S III General] Tenacious:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36263600

Confirmed took me 10 sec to downgrade bootloader from LLA with terminal emulator.
[Galaxy S III General] ricnar456:
Yes but he do not have all stock change kernel and we do not know if exist a patch how is made.

And if the nand was previously damaged and continue running with troubles can be die despite software fix.

Ricnar

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Excuse me if I come off a little noob-ish, but is there any specific bootloader (of the three) that you can recommend? Or does it not matter which I choose?

EDIT: I went with the ALEF one and all is well. Surprisingly easy.
[Galaxy S III General] Seicer:
Almost perfect, some new features beside the old JB rom... everything is ok untill now! And the best part: the bug is fixed! :good: :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
sorry for a noob query : (please don't be angry, I tried to find out unsuccessfully)

1. how to find out which bootloader I'm running

2. why downgrade to an older bootloader?
[Galaxy S III General] duhhh:
1.https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5lbGVjdHJpY3NoZWVwLmFzaSJd

system tab
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
Thanks alot: how have I managed to live without it untill now ?? I'll never know.

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there remains one question friend : why downgrade from my I9300XXELLA bootloader to an older one ????
[Galaxy S III General] rugolt:
Not exactly, there remains another question: WHY does the topic of this thread still claim that the new bootloader solves SuddenDeath? There is absolutely no proof for this statement. It's misleading, nothing more than that.
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
Because the OP does not give a %$#%^%$ to check what happens. Even more, i am (and others too) 100% sure that the bootloader canot solve the SDS. More like a kernel, but i am pretty sure that SDS did not come from the kernel (stock or not) either.
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
things being what they are as far as S3 sudden death is concerned (foggy, to say the least) do you think I should steer away from ELLA bootloader and install an older one?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Hmm, if that red exclamation mark upon every reboot is making you paranoid, then yes, you should revert to an ICS bootloader. Regarding this sudden death issue, I now don't think it fixed the sudden death issues at all as we first assumed it did, as it seems another user has gotten a sudden death despite having flashed full ELLA including ELLA bootloader.

I don't even know what the new bootloader does, except that it seems to have some check that makes it unable to flash older bootloaders and showing a nice red exclamation mark at every boot. (pah, what a good check that didn't prevent dd flashing ^^)
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
yeah, I could'nt care less about the red exclamation mark; but why would some knowledgeable people, like you, want to revert from ella bootloader to an older one??
[Galaxy S III General] ali4796:
Hello

i have read latest posts and no one has confirmed that sudden death has been fixed.

what should we do know?

should we sell our phones, or wait for a solution?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Because I can, not because I have to. ^^
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
or cross fingers and hope it won't happen to us !

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hmm, I see, sorry for the trouble; we all benefit from experimentations, thanks again
[Galaxy S III General] fmtrx:
I have stated this opinion to correct the title two times already. The OP ignored the suggestions and continues to cause confusions and give false hopes for the SDS fix only to increase his popularity and his...thanksmeter! To make matters worse this misleading thread title, misled a couple of news sources and spread wrong information at a faster rate. The next step should be that we report this to an XDA MODERATOR and have this title corrected! Enough is enough!
[Galaxy S III General] clin81:
I have the bootloader xella and Stock italian Vodafone ROM, but Exynos Abuse worked the same ... Is this normal?

xella bootloader should not fix the Exynos bug? i'm root with exynosabuse.apk V 1.40 and bootloader xella.... :eek:

i've checked bootloader with adb...

Any idea?
[Galaxy S III General] Kerlaz1964:
I flashed xxell4 firmware (btu) from samfirmware using Odin. I never ticked bootloader box in Odin. How do i tell what my boot loader now is?
[Galaxy S III General] LenAsh:
Android System Info - Play
[Galaxy S III General] clin81:
Adb on pc or terminal on phone... search in xda forum
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
XXELL4 doesn't have new bootloader.

Taper di Tap with my S3 @160 days
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
The Exynos mem fix is not in the bootloader, it's in the kernel of LLA.
[Galaxy S III General] artesea:
I assumed that the OP must be awol as the title is still unchanged, until I saw in the first post

If only there was a down vote.
[Galaxy S III General] fmtrx:
Of course not! Crest+ is with us everyday and enjoys his fame and publicity lighting his cigars...with a smile as good as the tv models of Crest toothpaste...actually better: Crest+ lol
[Galaxy S III General] tintin1892:


And If you try and successfully please report here and let me know if it works 100% on another S3.

Hey guys,

After flashed stock XXELLA rom or flash new XXELLA bootloader. You can't not flash back to old previous version of bootloader anymore via PC Odin. And after every S3 reboot, it will show red exclamation mark at boot logo and always check flash counter =1 in download mode if you user custom kernel or custom CWM. This is the way I found to flash back to old bootloader.

1. Always backup first, full wipe yor S3 and flash back to lastest stock ICS 4.0.4 rom not included old bootloader in it or you can fash via Mobile Odin and don't care it include a bootloader or not because Mobile Odin doesn't flash bootloader. I''m in Vietnam and I choose this ICS 4.0.4 rom I9300XXBLH1_I9300OLBBLH1_XEV.zip http://www.hotfile.com/dl/166926386/6a0e52a/I9300XXBLH1_I9300OLBBLH1_XEV.zip.html

2. After flashed ICS 4.04 rom don't root or do another work on it, Just check OTA update on S3 by Go to Settings > About device > Software update > Click Update. Let OTA update your S3 to JB 4.1.1. In my case the OTA will update to JB 4.1.1 XXDLJ1 and it takes about 2xx MB size. Yes, it's here. The processing of OTA update from ICS 4.0.4 to JB 4.1.1 can break the protect of new bootloader XXELLA . And after OTA updated to JB 4.1.1 you would have the old version of JB 4.1.1 bootloader. In my case it's bootloader XXDLJ1.

3. But although our S3 has old bootloader XXDLJ1 but it's still a JB bootloader version. Every S3 reboot you will still get red exclamation mark and counter =1 if you use custom kernel or custom CWM. To make red exlamation mark and counter =1 disappear totally. You only have to flash back to old ICS version bootloader XXALEF. And now you can flash back to XXALEF bootloader via PC Odin.

4. Just install a custom kernel and a custom CWM Recovery. Wa wa, red exclamation mark and counter =1 have already dissapeared totally.

This is the link of ICS old bootloader XXALEF can flash via Odin: http://www.mediafire.com/?dlruvz9fib6c046

>>> Many thanks to XDA members of the following threads. Yours'' replys helped me accidental found this way ￼)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2077844

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1918667

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1993044

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1646610
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
I'm on ELLA right now, with ELLA bootloader and ELLA kernel. But, when I check with exynos mem bug checker it says bug is present in my device; how come??? what do you think of this?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
It only does that because it checks what permissions the exynos-mem file has.
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
No worriesfor me then????
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Try using the ExynosAbuse app by chainfire to root with it and watch it fail.
[Galaxy S III General] guerouig:
thanks a lot friend; but since my device is already rooted, I wonder how it really works, do just have to disable exploit and that's it?? for now the current status is "exploit: patched" and "patch at boot : enabled"

WOWWWWW: pure magic, that small patch has done it, and samsung with its emppire is still watching!!!! what a shame.
[Galaxy S III General] Andy:
No need to keep reporting this thread. I am aware of the bold claims made by this ROM.

I have asked the OP to post his proof that the bugs are indeed fixed.

This is not North Korea, and we welcome the chance for users to post information, providing they can back it up.
[Galaxy S III General] Serdxx:
Kinda have a suggestion, For not having more trouble answering the same question repeatly,

I suggest someone or the OP put the answer that mostly the use will ask (same question again&again).

sorry, just suggestion, no offense, :)
[Galaxy S III General] washpota:
I went through the whole thread, but remain confused.

Can anyone please explain whether:

1) Flashing via Kies using the above method (using the above serial) void the warranty.

2) Does it fix the SDS issue?

3) Is samsung just bluffing us to upgrade the bootloader so that they are able to find out whether our phones are rooted/custom flashed so that they can deny us warranty in case of SDS?

4) Is it better to wait till a OTA update is available for my country.

My phone is neither rooted nor custom flashed.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S III General] Painman1963:
I assume from the sudden change of title that the OP couldn't back his bold claims up.

Thanks for prompting him in the right direction
[Galaxy S III General] kondronaute:
you do it with terminal emulator on mobile can u confirm ?

thank u
[Galaxy S III General] spamtrash:
Presumably you're right. Just to give EVIDENCE:

as for now, on XDA we have two cases (CASE 1 and Case 2 ) of the SDS with XELLA onboard.

I think that the discussion about miracle announced by OP, sammobile, Faryyab and others - can be cut now? :rolleyes:

I hope it will be the LAST post in this thread related with this fairytale.:cool:
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
OK, let me try another LAST post, which says why XXELLA should include the SD fix already...

Andreilux found the fix in the last sourcecode update 7 from Samsung.

The fix is a special handling for the VTU00M MMC IC with FW 0xf1.

After unpacking the XXELLA kernel a XDA Member (and me also) searched for that string, and the kernel indeed already contains this string, which leads to the conclusion, that XXELLA already implements the special handling for the VTU00M.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36465270#post36465270

However, case 1 and case 2 can be, if the fix can't heal already to much damaged ICs. Nobody knows yet, what the special handling exactly does.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
Heh, this along with for many other posts I was awaiting for this one: :p:p
[Galaxy S III General] MaXmeOliver:
How do I install this with Heimdall on mac?
[Galaxy S III General] fmtrx:
At last a developer with enough experience can confirm this...NOW...

Several days ago, when i posted this we were left in the dark.

I just do not like that Samsung does not say anything officially yet.

i will not start any assumptions. I am just noting it. I would definately want to have an official confirmation. That's all.
[Galaxy S III General] thekoRngear:
Already used the phone for 5 months with excess CWM flashing of ROMs and mods, God knows how long this fix can keep ours alive.
[Galaxy S III General] abhi4168:
ok about the method 2, if I follow this and update will the flash counter/blabla increase, will it void warranty ? 2ndly when my country get the equivalent to ELLA update can i use this same technique but with my personal serial no to update to my country's update ? or the updated bootloader will create problem ?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Does anyone know if the ELLA Luxembourg release has the same changelist as the ELLA BTU one?
[Galaxy S III General] GrayJack:
Is it so hard to check it by yourself: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300

Or you don't believe your eyes?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Lol, wise arse.
[Galaxy S III General] farrukhna:
will it void my warranty if i will upgrade this UK firmware through KIES?:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
no
[Galaxy S III General] spamtrash:
OK, therefore we have the consensus:

XELLA as you have said contains a fix, which, presumably, if applied to a new phone, should in some cases prevent SDS, yes?

Big achievement, milestone step and perfect remedy for each of the users from Samsung. Could you please give the definition of: "too much damaged ICs", as well as (because "nobody knows") - the proof that this handler is NOT related with just more tight trigger for "modified" or/and "custom" status detection?

Without such proof, you, other members and mentioned by you dev have knowledge that there is a handler. Assumption that it is actually a fix is not proven in any way.

What's indirectly supporting this: do you think (assuming that this firmware actually contains the fix) that Samsung is so ugly that the company is discriminating all countries other than UK?

A small piece of offtop: do you know what's the difference between the medicine drug [fix](chemicals curing peoples, by removal of infection or sickness symptom) and vaccination [new phone uprgade, like new revision of MB] (preventive safety action,applicable for not infected peoples only)?
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Just an update the CSC select app now works on ELLA but it needs root.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Rooting takes like .5 seconds anyway. ;)
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
I know some people just don't like rooting for some reason so I thought best to mention it :)
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Once you come to try apps like clock sync, fastergps, root explorer, etc. you have to root ^^
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
I lasted a day, it's a long time.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Lasted a day without root?

Oh yeah, one day IS a long time in Shawty-time. :D
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Yep one day without root.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
When I bought my S3, I was too far away to even root so I actually lasted about 5 days without root. Those were painful five days though. Or maybe, I realized I was finally free from a flasher's craze (which my Gnex gave me) and was living in bliss........until I got home, that is. :p
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
You poor soul how did you survive?
[Galaxy S III General] rezapatel:
I guess off the topic but relevant to the last couple posts, after spending 800$ on the phone, I rooted before I even started using the phone. Android without the root access really is like a fantastic chocolate cone without the toppings.

Sent from my Galaxy S3
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Delsus and Shawty ready to derail a thread close to you soon :p
[Galaxy S III General] stanley08:
LOL! Someone says went a Whole day without Root?! WOW!

My Story

10am on 10 December 2012 - Left my house to store

11am - Arrived at store, BOUGHT MY S3! :D

11:15am - Left store

12pm - Got home

(started charging phone)

2pm - Phone fully charged

Turned on phone,skipped setup.Immediately went into Setting > Developer Options, turned on USB Debugging.

Connected to PC for phone to install, turned off phone and rebooted into download mode

(I spent only 45 seconds to 1 minute on 4.0.4 ICS :p)

2:01pm - Flashed leaked JB LK5 (Flashing took exactly 4:04mins)

2:08pm - Was booted into JB and was rooted already! :P

Still rebooted into Download mode to flash CF Root. to get custom recovery.

By 2:10pm i was Rooted and on JB with custom recovery! :laugh:

TOO MUCH DETAIL. LOL! :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
*Horatio Caine™ glasses on*

Well, you might say I

---

SU-rvived ;)

Not all will get that joke. :p

True!

Uhm, delsus, you said you could last a day. You must be popular with the ladies, I assume? :good:
[Galaxy S III General] Painman1963:
Could you just clarify a small point for me. Your outbound journey took 60 mins but the return journey was only 45 mins. Did you take a different route?
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
You would think what kinda lady doesn't like a gaming flashaholic who loves everything to do with computers?
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I was more underlining the "last a day" part. ;)

Interpret it how you wish. ^^
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Lol I'm sure I can last longer if I really try :p
[Galaxy S III General] stanley08:
Two words bro! TRA-FFIC! :p
[Galaxy S III General] Painman1963:
Ah, that would explain it :P
[Galaxy S III General] nmsv:
guys, if I do update my S3 using the method 2 will the counter increase or the system show as modified somehow? Only if I root the phone, install another rom, right? This does not change the internal CSC?

When the update comes to my country can I update through Kies the same version (probably 4.1.2) without any problems? Will I be allowed?

Thanks guys :):good:
[Galaxy S III General] gomango:
KIES Problem

Hi All. I'm trying to upgrade my S3 CSC:XEF XXELL4 phone using method 2 (using KIES) but am getting stuck. Using the serial from the OP I can get as far as KIES downloading the XXELLA update but when I put my phone into recovery mode and connect it to the PC with the recovery menu showing, the "Start Upgrade" button remains greyed out and cannot be pushed. What am I doing wrong?
[Galaxy S III General] kaiur:
¿Recovery mode with kies? I use Odin PC in download mode, so I don't use kies but first time I read that. I guess you have to simply conect the phone, not recovery, not download modes.
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
You need to be in download mode not recovery volume down home and power when you switch on.
[Galaxy S III General] tontiv:
answer found!
[Galaxy S III General] nmsv:
Any help regarding my questions guys? Sorry to be bothering you :)
[Galaxy S III General] 17RoiDavid:
i need to know if updating as written in the first post via kies void my warranty cause i'm using I9300XXELL4 ITALY (H3G) and not UK.

thx!

edit: ok it shouldn't void warranty :D. now the question is if i can flash it even if my phone is branded h3g ITALY. can i flash it?