yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RCantw3ll:
I just want to chime in the LS will have many more useful features than CM will have. CM is a great ROM, and I have ran it much more recently than I have ran liquid, but if I had to choose one it would probably be liquid. The team is very engaging and kind.

Yes, they ask for donations, but there are reasons for it, and it has no affect on your access of the ROM. I am running AOKP JB M1 at the moment, but once liquid has their first stable version of 4.2.1 ready for the GNex I will probably jump on.

Also, they base off of AOSP more often than not, and yes...I have been around since the D1 days.

Best,

RC3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] rustynutzz:
Liquidsmooth on Gnex has been stellar for me. Everytime I stray to a different ROM I always end up back to Liquidsmooth. Everything else has been laggy and slow for me. Can't answer for the SIII.

As far as the begging for money comment, I have never felt any kind of pressure to donate. When I do donate, I don't expect anything, just saying thanks to their team for the countless hours spent on putting the ROM together and they sure appreciate it.

Edit: Just to add, they don't treat me any different than anybody else whether I donate or not. I still get the ROM's in a timely manner either way. Matter of fact, just when I finished setting up Beta1D, here somes Beta2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] arbliss:
I have great respect for cm, awesome work from them. But my favorite Rom is liquidsmooth. Love the speed and stability off their roms. 4.2.1 runs well for me with great battery life. I also love the close knit community. They're good guys/girl :) and I'm happy to donate, but haven't been pressured to. Liquidsmooth forever!

Edit: also their 4.2.1 runs are AOSP based, not cm based
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joemagistro:
4.2.1 is running mint on liquid

Sent from my galaxy nexus using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lortay78:
I just want to chime in with my take. I have the utmost respect for CM and the whole CM team. I have been running custom roms since the OG droid, and they have always been the benchmark for stability and integrity, especially in respect to the open source ethos... However, since the Droid X, I have always found myself running liquid the most although I flash just about every aosp rom out there. I like, respect, and donate to all of them. And since I do donate, at the end of the day, I appreciate the rom that fits my needs best. It seems to me that all of these roms are "kangs" of aosp or CM in one way or another. Each iteration improves or takes something and puts a better spin on it. The only reason I don't run aokp as much is because I watched a webcast with a bunch of those guys and it struck me that they seemed kind of just mean. I know that sounds silly, but I feel like I could have a beer with most devs, and those guys just didn't seem like someone I'd like to hang out with. That said, I think they are as innovative as everyone.

I'm definitely not a dev, and although I can compile a build, I wouldn't know the first thing about actually making a rom. But I think all of them borrow from CM a bit, with maybe the exception of miui. I've never seen Cyanogen getting upset because someone kanged toggles or something, and I have never seen a liquid OP that didn't give a lot of credit to a lot of devs.

However, as the end user, I will run the rom I like the best, and really I don't care where they got the code. I respect CM very much, but if Liquid has a feature or a bugfix for my device that CM doesn't, I'm going to run it.

That is just the way I see it. And for just about any donation I give to anyone, I match it with a contribution to CM, because from what I've seen, if it weren't for those guys, we wouldn't have much to flash at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HikingMoose:
Team liquid, I think you already know there are far more people that like your work, and appreciate it then 'roided out, narcissistic, tools like 1ManWolfePack. He is just trolling and trying to get a rise out of people. Don't let one loser negate all of the positive responses you get (and I count far more positive comments then negative). Keep up the good work and get us some D2USC love!

Moose

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You beat me to it, D2USC is up. Let's hope it boots!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ManyPearTree:
This^^

Liquidsmooth RC9 is the most stable ROM I've ever run on my T989..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] roboots21:
You should remove the 'Donate To Me' button from your info. You'd have to only be a fool to send money your away after ridiculous comments like that. Idiot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nevrlow:
Agreed. You donate for the talent not the rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] The Shack Man:
I have run Liquid Smooth Roms since I first rooted. I have fallen to the crack flash and tried plenty but it always come right back around where I started. I did not donate in the beginning. I never once had to. After becoming more familiar and realizing the monumental task of what they do is what I donate to. Their service. I pay someone when they fix my broken car. Why wouldn't I when someone fixes my "broken" stock phone? And as someone else had mentioned earlier, I feel closer to Team Liquid then any other development group I have known. It isnt just all about business which gives the whole experience a better vibe. So here is to Team Liquid. Keep doing what you are doing. Thanks You
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dg4prez:
Thanks for the support guys. I'm not out to call anyone out. I appreciate why some folks think what they think, and my mission is not to shame those people, but to clear the air and get the truth out. I do what I do because I like transparency. I enjoy getting in the mud and slinging it around like anyone else, I've been known to abuse people who PM me with stupid crap, but at the end of the day I'm doing this because I like android, I like helping folks out, and I like Liquid. It's a great rom that I've run for a while now, and I think the only thing we're really missing is transparency with the users. As long as I'm on the team, you'll have it. That's my job.

Let's face it, we are all here because we love the same stuff. No reason for infighting. I really respect the work of the CM team, AOKP, PA - everyone. They all bring something amazing to the table. Without CM, the rom scene would still be mostly modified stock roms. Without AOKP, we'd all be whispering about who kanged what like it was somehow bad for the community to take features from an open source rom, use them, and improve them. PA brought us an amazing way of modifying DPI. We like to think we're the team that's bringing you optimization. We're obsessed with it, and since we support a smaller number of devices and are a small team, we have the luxury of focusing our efforts on features and speed. At the end of the day we all win.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] imneveral0ne:
I've been running Liquid since my thunderbolt and I've never had problems with them. They give credit where credit is due, maybe it's just that people wanna take credit for something liquid has done? I've never made a donation personally, yet I'd say I have a new build every week. You just have to be around in IRC when they're posted for testing. I assume this "evidence" was all the RootzWiki ****. That was the day that Rootz really took a straight shot down the toilet. Perhaps you can elaborate on this evidence though so they could defend themselves?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobby janow:
Might as well get a shot in before this puppy is closed. Wolf Pack has a vendetta against Ryan plain and simple. Always has. Take his posts for what they are worth. I know Ryan personally and he is a great person with a great family. To try and discredit him is uncalled for and inappropriate. Now as for the roms he puts out, they are great. They are slimmed down, have all the features you need, is responsive to suggestions and is very appreciative if you donate. The thread is questioning the rom vs. CM 10.1 and the simple answer is to try both. That is what backup is for. Perhaps we can put an end to this silliness? Wolf Pack you have made yourself very clear as to where you stand. Do you think you can end this now in this thread, in IRC, and in any reference to Liquid roms? Or will you continue this awful vendetta? It's your call and your choice.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nocoast:
All i can say is wow..firstly at 1manwolfepack's audacity and then an even awesomer wow at the communities' support. The reality is NO DEV TEAM IS GETTING PAID CLOSE TO ENOUGH. We are one of the smallest 'big' teams out there so we really do require as much support as we can get liquid isnt the only person who loses sleep working on this project ;) comparing liquid to cm is like comparing apples to oranges (in terms of the way the project operates). again thank you all so much for the support.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ehale225:
Liquidsmooth

Liquidsmooth is the best.

My reasons and opinions are:

CM was always just a base package and nothing more.

Cm I have experience alot of issues

Liquidsmooth roms was always a daily driver because it was the most stable, Liquidsmooth always had the tweaks and optimizations I needed and wanted between all the other roms available. I also had best battery with them. The best thing was the support and feature requests, they worked their selves to the bones to provide any feature requests or fixes to whatever the community would ask for and with as small of a team they have. Another aspect to consider CM has alot more developers or they did than Liquids team and still seem to have alot better roms out there. As a developer myself I know how hard it is to do this and only donate when credit is due and when you donate it also is an extra motivation for that developer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Oh wow, just saw this.

Any "team" that has a "hypeman" or needs a marketing agent clearly is in the business for profit.

Yeah, I've seen the OP. I've also seen how it used to read. I've got PMs that Team Liquid sent back and forth with a PM. I won't share them -- maybe snippets.

Keep drinking the kool-aid, y'all. You just got sold by their market man. Blind following at it's best.

You can reply all you want in your defense and it means nothing to me. They are just a bunch of panhandlers and constantly ask for money.

Time to switch to a paid, subscription based model Team Liquid. Or Ryan -- get a better day job.

What a bunch of suckas. Lol. Doesn't bother me none -- not my money ;0
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] acidbath5546:
I would like to give kudos to 1manwolfepack, for a funny and true post. And comparing Team Liquid to CM is not a comparison at all. Team Liquid is based of CM which is based off AOSP. Most of their features are borrowed from other Teams also based off CM, like AOKP and others. So they are just basically a copy with some randomness. Oh and they used to charge people for trying their ROM's as well, and at times had to be told by mods to properly credit the Devs that actual created certain features. All of the above is fact and the internet is funny. Good Day Sir.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Bam! Team Liquid and blind followers - I don't even know this guy and he said the same ish. Must be a witch hunt, huh? ;)

I wish I had screenies of the pathetic gtalks I used to get from Ryan: "please, just a little donation this week? :)"

Sad.

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I figure I can find one fool in here or other Liquid threads that would throw me a bone. You guys are using a paid ROM - so crazier things have happened :)

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I'm neither broke nor cheap. Slander? What I said is true, so that wouldn't be slander. Care to disprove me?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobAbooE:
I would love to see proof but I understand that they could be lost or not comfortable posting them. One's word does not equal proof in this case. Proof is proof. Not taking either side, just bored at work. :)

There used to be a guy on the droid x that was a kanger, the devs broke his rom down and gave proof.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sghrush:
I used Liquidsmooth 4.2.1 beta on my S3. It was fine except when using iHeartRadio when traveling in my car. As the phone would transition from one cell tower to another, the 4G signal would get interrupted and stop iHeartRadio. I never had this happen before. Conversely, I tried a CM 10.1 nightly three days ago and the phone lost the ability to make and receive calls. I flashed the phone back to stock and returned to Verizon because it was rendered unusable by CM 10.1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HikingMoose:
Paid ROM you say huh? I haven't paid one red cent, yet I am using their ROM which is smoother, faster, more stable, and has better battery life than any other 4.2.1 ROM. I will donate some money to them because their ROM simply works better than any 4.2.1 ROM out so far. So I have no problems giving them a few dollars. I have to ask, do you go work for free? IF you had a talent, would you use it to help out strangers for free every day, or would you charge, I guarantee you would not put yourself out for free and not ask for compensation.

And if they are just using everyone else's code, then big deal. If they are fixing the other ROM's shortcomings then they are still providing a service. Whatever vendetta you have against, them, or whatever has happened to cause you to hate them, you should leave it in the past. It is still a free country until Feinstein's bill anyway, so people should be able to use whichever free ROM they choose.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Someone already did it last year. He stalked their threads with evidence and demanded they credit CM. The threads got taken down and then put back up with proper OPs. Anyone remember that?

Probably not, as your mom and dad just got you your new android phone for Christmas. Not you, Bob. The blind followers....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HikingMoose:
You may have just lost your number and MIN. I think it can be flashed back to a working ROM, or you can dial *228 to get it back in some cases.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobAbooE:
I hate being late to the party. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dg4prez:
I have an amazing solution!!!

If you want to use our roms... use them. You can get the latest builds on http://goo.im/devs/liquidsmooth/. You can donate if you want, or not. The builds are still there.

If you don't want to use our roms, or you think we're a bunch of creeps... don't use them.

If you think AOKP and CM don't have people who do nothing but social networking and such things you're out of your mind. They have t-shirts and cases, logos, graphics... Those things don't just happen.

Anyway, I stated my case. wolf pack clearly has his own agenda and is more interested in making us look bad than having a conversation. Back to productive things.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sghrush:
Sadly, I sent the phone back prior to finding this out. However, they replaced my phone since I have phone insurance. I have a replacement S3 in hand now. I flashed AOKP ms 1 last night. The phone looked like it was going to lose the ability to call again because I tried to make a call and it said no mobile network available. Then I hit okay, phone rebooted, and then it worked! It was scary. I never had these issue with the Galaxy Nexus and thinking of just switching back cuz the S3 seems wonky when it comes to flashing custom roms. Others have posted about losing the ability to call after flashing a rom. Yet, I did not see posts about this under the Galaxy Nexus forum.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] arbliss:
Well said Derek. And back to the original reason for this thread, comparing CM to Liquid. They are hard to compare, flash them both and see what you like best. Personally I like Liquid because of the battery life and customization options. But then again, I'm just a blind Liquid follower, what do I know?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 1ManWolfePack:
Hey Derek,

To make yourself more useful, maybe personalize your OP's instead of copying/pasting the same one followed by …

Out of respect for the wonderful mods on this site, I'll stop now. I still stand by everything I said. I'll take to other platforms to spread the word.

Peace! :)

P.S. I've noticed the attrition rate on Liquid spokesmen is pretty high, so maybe polish up that resume....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] carpdeeem:
Just want to thank everybody again for their posts to this thread... it's been interesting to see the variety of responses, both those in direct response to my original post and those getting more into the history/backstory of LS and CM. I personally don't claim know enough of the history to judge either way, but as best I can tell at this point, LS is playing the game as honestly as anybody else and I'll be happy to support them if I continue to use their ROMs.

At this point, I am sticking with LS beta 1a because it seems to have everything I needed (other than the significant battery drain). Hopefully ASOP will fix the bluetooth stereo issue (as I understand it's an ASOP issue, rather than a specific ROM problem) and I'll be able to utilize more recent builds.

Thanks also for everybody remaining (essentially) civil... a pet peeve of mine is when people flame others in a forum just because they disagree with their opinion.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] imneveral0ne:
I'm still failing to see where I have to pay to use this rom, or have ever had to pay since I started using them on my Thunderbolt. I've never been asked for money besides where it say's in the thread to donate please if you can, like it say's in every other rom thread that I've seen. That's not really begging if you ask me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Neverendingxsin:
Where is this paid Rom you speak of?!? Does it include the "make me breakfast in bed feature"? Cuz that I would pay for in a Rom ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nocoast:
To be honest you are a disingenuous prick who doesn't know when to quit... you think this rom compiles itself? DO YOU EVEN HAVE A REMOTE UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE OF OPEN SOURCE WORK? Evidently, by your model Ubuntu isn't a real distro because after all Debian did all of the legwork. You don't have to like our tech art, but we ask for donations rather than sell the ROM due to the fact that it is open source...panhandlers? Thieves? Honestly blasphemy and henceforth you still have yet to actually comment on the code or the performance of the ROM. I treated you with nothing but respect and sent you pre release otas on a frequent basis, not because I thought I could get a dime out of you but because I thought you might have an appreciation for the way we arrange and coordinate our code, in exchange you publicly defame us bringing up old grudges that have since been resolved... You of all people need to remove that donate button because you've contributed nothing but negative energy... Thanks for the misinformed and irrelevant recap, I'm sure users will be a lot better off now that you've "set them free" Oh by the way who was it who spent a year getting RIL to work on ICS and the mecha? That person sure is a slacker.... GET A LIFE YOU PIECE OF DIRT! ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] nklenchik:
Alright I'll throw my 2 cents in. Back when I had my GNex I ran LS because it was one of the best Roms IMO. The Liquid team did ask for donations, but that was in irc (of you wanted a link to a beta). They only released what they thought were secure, stable releases.

Now, I'm running their latest beta on my S3, and I do notice an all around UI smoothness when compared to CM 10.1 which isn't that far off. In fact, Slimbean is up there too...probably in the middle.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] VECTUS:
Looks like this has runs its course and enough people are ticked off... Closed
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pathera:
Hi guys i have a big problem. I have tried to install flash playef for my s3 since 2 days. I installex the last version (11.1.115.34) or something like that. But it does not work with my dolphin and firefox browser.

Which browsers are you using and what do you guy suggest me? I would like to watch streams or movies and need flash player.:)

Thanks in advance and happy new year!!!:)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wicked wizard:
Flash player still works in maxthon mobile browser

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenacious:
Naked browser perfect for streaming https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fevdev.nakedbrowser
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asdf20:
Just try stock browser it works
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pathera:
guys youre the best thanks very much!!! :)
[Nexus 7 General] klefreak:
I wann to ask if its possible to Port or mod these und features to our nexus (particulary Multi Windows mod)
[Nexus 7 General] BDR456:
I have a Note2 and am also very interested in this. There is also a floating window mod that I'd love to get on this.

Floating window mod:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2056515
[Nexus 7 General] BDR456:
Anyone?
[Nexus 7 General] ace9988:
I don't know if you two have tried the touchwiz ROM...maybe these features are in there? if not then someone can answer that

I'm interested in the smart screen and smart rotate capability if it's possible
[Nexus 7 General] cjsspape:
That ROM looks like it has certain aspects of the TW base, however things like the multi-view are very heavily integrated into TW framework. Its very difficult to port it over to an already exsisting TW ROM let alone an AOSP base. Dont quote me but I think if it were possible at all it would have to be a complete port of the GN II ROM. I do know there alternative apps out there which simulate these features although I cant name them off the top of my head.
[Nexus 7 General] dr.m0x:
There is cornerstone but development seems to have ceased.

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Sent from my Cyanogenmod powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 7 General] klefreak:
Unfortunable the Feature i would like to See is using two und apps at same Time
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kosmic1:
where can i buy the SAMSUNG GALAXY s2 GT-i19100 USB replacement board ?

the problem im having is the phone is :

thinking its charging when not plugged in

thinks it is getting plugged in and unplugged so i get a relevant audio signal sounding sometimes

i have tried cleaning with vinegar and things improved for a while ,but i think its on the way out and needs replacing

I've seen a REV 2.2 on Amazon for £8 or a REV 2.3 for £19.95 not sure which one to go for or cheaper from somewhere else ? i have read about the signal issues after changing this part and don't want those issues myself ,thanks for your help in advance , great forum !!
[Wildfire General] gobz:
Development halted due to vast(believe me) amount of resizing needed.

Hello everyone.

Im currently porting peso for wildfire

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1588529

Any experienced dev should pl help me complete this project.

Currently its developed not booting stuck on splash screen.

Note I followed peteragents tut.

Need some help and tools to unpack kernel.

Jordfaz,slymobi,wasim,etc and all other porters pl help.

Ill attach a logcat whenever I flash it again.

Thank you.:D
[Wildfire General] alamgirqazi:
Nice to hear that there is development going on. I thought wildfire android development was dead.

Nokia 3310 coming ^_^

current device: htc wildfire
[Wildfire General] gobz:
Wildfire has gr8 potential though it lacks gpu.:thumbup:
[Wildfire General] alamgirqazi:
Gpu as well as processor. But its a great way to enter into Android world. The most older phone you have, the more you have the knowledge of the best things around.

Nokia 3310 coming ^_^

current device: htc wildfire
[Wildfire General] gobz:
Im sorry but I dont understand what you are saying.

I think some libs fixes and it would get working.