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[Nexus 4 General] AlexWekell:
Concerning "lag" on audio related apps such as piano: its not traditional lag, it's latency. I do music production and what you're basically experiencing is more of a delay. Android has higher audio latency then iOS, thus why its harder to play piano apps for instance. Think of it as you hitting the key, there's a 150ms delay or so (I don't recall the value of it on android) between you the actual touch and program playing the note for that key.
[Nexus 4 General] alias3800:
I'm having a really hard time finding scroll lag, something I've definitely seen before in iOS betas and other android phones not named HTC one or Nexus 4. Can you elaborate? I'm on paranoid android now, so perhaps that's dissolved it? In really sensitive to dropped frames and it bothers me, but I haven't seen it
[Nexus 4 General] jcmaddox1:
I have no lag on my Nexus at all, no stuttering problems, runs just as well as my ipod does. Even on apps like Facebook and XDA don't have any stutter.
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
ala Windows. I haven't had a Windows phone in a while, but I remember that winding circle until loading was done with previous devices. Caching is the area where Android could use some optimization. The only stutter I get is with web based apps and browsers. If the page could be fully cached quickly ahead of scrolling, there will be no stuttering while images are rendered.
[Nexus 4 General] mattoaida:
When I first got my Samsung galaxy s 1 it was running gingerbread and it had alot of stutters but when I flashed jelly bean the lag seemed to be gone except for a few places. Its all about the os. I only have 1 core and barely any ram. Android just needs to patch the little things but otherwise its great

BTW just ordered my n4 yesterday
[Nexus 4 General] bentez2003:
Yeah fb and xda are smooth as butter lol,

Trolling much?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] PJcastaldo:
My sisters IPhone 5 is shuttery and laggy and freezes all the time.. My Galaxy 2 side by side was smoother.. My N4 makes her wish she had one....

WP is smooth but its had the same problems since the early 00's and wp5 ..

I think this "lag" is all in your heads...
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Those type of apps that don't have fixed pages, but are an endless page instead, are the only ones I have issue with, which is why I attribute it to less than optimal caching.
[Nexus 4 General] jcmaddox1:
No, I've always heard a lot of complaints on FB and XDA.
[Nexus 4 General] eddiecho59:
BTW when we scroll something in iOS

ui tends to stick very closely to the finger.

although butter project on android improved its performance and it's like buttery-smooth on jelly bean, but comparing to iOS, ui doesn't stick to finger VERY closely when we scroll upside down rapidly.

is it caused by frame rate and something like ui thread thingy that others say?
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
Facebook is one of the worst apps on the market for lag/stutter/delay. Which ever way you want to dress it up, it's there

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Take a video of you opening up Facebook and "one flick" the scrolling down so it scrolls so we can see.
[Nexus 4 General] nikufellow:
^fb app is much better than what it used to be during initial stages but still i believe its one poorly coded piece of software. Btw is it written in native code :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
The android vs iOS comparison became really silly and childish.. Input latency, "sticking to finger" and what other stuff i have read around here.

It's only a phone. if it lags and you are not satisfied with it, get rid of it and buy something that will make you happy.

I can tell you that waiting and anticipating any minimal stutter or lag while scrolling fast as hell is not OCD anymore, it's called "i have too much time to waste". It doesn't matter if an app opens 0.0001ms faster, it's the overall experience that matters.

Seriously, people should really start thinking about more important things in life.
[Nexus 4 General] norpan111:
Wp5 doesn't exist, it was windows mobile back then and its completely rebased

Skickat från min Nexus 4 med Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 General] ericaraj:
What if I want 60 fps, finger-sticking scrolling without having to saddle myself with iOS? The complaints are valid.
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Your right, we should all do that, right here on XDA Smh.
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
well ya, i want mobile SoCs to perform as those on a PC , 4GB of RAM would also be nice, but the technology is not there yet. so i take whatever suits me best at the moment and enjoy it, i don't act like a needy kid about it.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
Consumers' dissatisfaction and competition are indeed two factors that manufacturers/developers cannot disregard. If there hadn't been any compliants at all (I am not talking about xda community which is in general very brand/platform loyal but rather the majority who accept their handsets the way they are) I may be wrong but I assume we'd still enjoyed smoothness of GB.
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Then don't buy the N4. Simple. It's called sol.
[Nexus 4 General] Fensterbank:
And I think you are lying around. Stop talking about "the brother of my sister", it just uncovers your lie.

Are you serious? Facebook and tapatalk/xda are one of the worst performing apps, and you mean they don't stutter? I really want to believe this, because I always wanted to have a smooth tapatalk, but I cannot really believe without a video.

A custom kernel changes nothing. Facebook and the others will still lag, no matter which kernel you use.

The nexus 4 isn't popular at all.

Don't joke around.
[Nexus 4 General] ericaraj:
Sorry was I acting like a needy kid? I was trying to act like a consumer with dollars to spend on a smartphone. I want that smartphone to be Android (and it will be) but that doesn't make me 100% satisfied.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I said Crapping all over Android... If you hate Android and the Nexus 4 so much why are you here?

I have no issues with lag at all on my Nexus 4. There are many variables at work here. People are using many various kernals and launchers and roms, etc.. Lag could be caused by a million different things but I will repeat.. If Android lagged so much I really do not think it would be so popular.

As for the nexus 4 not being popular I disagree. It is very popular worldwide and obviously it is popular in a Nexus 4 forum. I think it is just human nature to complain about everything. If you update your facebook and it has to download a crapload of data--THAT IS NOT LAG! If you are scrolling through your facebook threads and by doing so it has to download more threads at the same time--THAT IS NOT LAG! Sure they could cache all of that on your device and perhaps only the new data would have to be downloaded but personally I do not want my device filled with 500mb of facebook posts.

My device is very quick and virtually lag free when going through pages, etc. When using a browser or something else that is downloading tons of data from the net it is going to take a little time depending on how fast your connection is. This even happens on the fastest pcs... I think this will improve over time but I do not see this as a problem right now and if you are having so much "Android Lag" then you should really look at what else you have running.

it is the same thing with the battery life-- If you have apps downloading data every few minutes then your battery life is going to be crap. I have all my apps to only download data when I choose to do it manually and I get through an entire day every day and charge my phone at bed time. I listen to podcasts during the day, use gps occasionally, check email, send email, browse forums, etc... Play games and that is different.

There is my long winded reply to a troll post. :)
[Nexus 4 General] norpan111:
But people refer to lag as stuttering/jerky

And android, even nexus 4 has it! There's no escape! Run to the hills!

Skickat från min Nexus 4 med Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Yes, and so does iOS and so does Windows and so does my but on the way to work in the mornings!!
[Nexus 4 General] Fensterbank:
Where do I write that I HATE android/n4?

You don't understand anything at all. You don't even understand the main issue which we complain here since 10 sites. If a app is poorly optimizated, it doesn't matter which rom/kernel/launcher you take.

Oh man are serious? There is no advertisement for the nexus 4, thats the reason why it was only sold 3 million times. It's not popular at all, simply as that.

Hm strange, iOS-devices don't have such lag. And a "crapload of data" is terribly false, there isnt much of data to load. You are phrasing like tapatalk/facebook has to load megabyte over megabyte like a heavy website, but that's wrong.

I hope you are just joking.
[Nexus 4 General] PJcastaldo:
Lmao.. I wasn't lieing. My sisters Iphone5 lags and shutters like crazy. She Hates it..

I agree if you guys don't like you phones.. Or android for that matter go away.. Stop complaining.

Its obvious your trolling. You love the IFail and you posy about it all around the forums.. Just stop already
[Nexus 4 General] gie62001:
Its a pity I can't give any more "thanks" just to annoy fenster guy ;) as he seems to not understanding how the fetching of data can be related to stuttering or lag as they call it. It doesn't matter if its few KB or MB as its still a long way to convert these bites into something meaningful on your screen. And if you have poor connection or slow the stutter will be more obvious. I believe iOS fetches the data differently even on browser as iOS can leave a lot of data behind (blank spaces) when loading websites whereas android tries to load as much data as it can at once.

I believe this issue has been discussed in the olden htc desire days and I think someone wrote pretty solid article on why and how android "lags"

If you refer to UI lag then also its different the way iOS and android prioritises what needs to be loaded - there should be an article on the net about it.

Anyway I love my nexus 4 maybe because I still use htc desire from time to time and I can't believe how much android has matured and how much it has improved.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I agree. There used to be some ui lag in older versions of Android but project butter has improved things drastically. I'm not sure which loads data faster but in terms of lag I have never used a faster phone. I have not used the newest Iphone though and I really do not care too. Even if certain apps do load faster I would not willing to spend the extra hundreds for it.

Android keeps getting better and better and the only lag I ever see really has nothing at all to do with Android but more with apps that were not written well.

I am all for making things even better though if possible.
[Nexus 4 General] Fensterbank:
That's what I complaining, the poorly written apps NOT android directly itself. But do you know why there are so much poorly written apps in android, in compare to iOS or windows phone? It's because of the bad optimization, there is too much hardware around, to optimize the apps on each device. That's the point.

It doesn't matter if you have a bad or good internet connection. Try it yourself, load tapatalk or some other laggy app with edge and then with hspa, you won't notice any difference in scrolling. It will be laggy, no matter how fast your internet is.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
I think alot of people are forgetting that Android is still in its infancy. There will be issues and lag. Some will take years to fix completely. This is just the way it is. If you cant deal with it then by all means pick another OS.
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Infancy? Compared to what? Or do you mean all mobile OS in general?
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Compared to just about every OS out right now.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Why so isn't Android about as old as iOS and WM?
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
There is no other mobile platform that can be compared to the open source multi platform that Android is. Do you think if Apple were to start releasing iOS thru multiple manufacturers on devices that have differing amounts of memory, cpu speeds, and screen sizes & resolutions that it would be 100% smooth on all those devices? Do you believe that the app devs would be able to whip up apps like they are for a single set of specifications, or two, as quickly and smooth running right off the bat? What if the manufacturers were allowed to add their own framework and user interfaces to iOS? Comparing iOS to Android is like comparing an apple to a whole barrel of oranges.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Not even close. WM was one of the first mobile OS. He'll I was using a smartphone 10 years ago. Before Android was even a thought

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
True I understand that but iOS is relatively close in age no?

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What??? Where did you assume I didn't know any of this or did I compare iOS to android in any other way than possibly age, which I really just asked a guy who I would deem much more knowledgeable on OS than me.....so thanks for the long winded rant but I didn't wake up from a coma yesterday. As a matter of fact, assuming you didn't read the whole thread maybe, I never complained about android as an OS at all, I was simply interested in the touchscreen hardware and why iOS seems to have a low latency screen as opposed to Android....so yeah.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
No IOS is years older then Android and they have one advantage as stated above. They only have to build for one hardware set up and control the whole thing. Think of it like a Linux distro which is pretty much what it is. It will perform differently on each and every machine.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
I was unaware that it was that that much older than android honestly. Yeah I absolutely get the issues faced with trying to optimize for so many devices. Honestly Lil, only reason I got into this convo in Herr was to try an understand or seek any validity in the notion that apple uses a superior touchscreen interface, hardware end not software. I appreciate you for staying course with me as per my questions about age and all, but many others are simply so ready to throw down at first mention of a "complaint" things get read wrong lol. You have any thoughts on the idea that Apple has a superior touchscreen interface on the hardware end, resulting in lower touch latency, something some people perceive as lag.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
I wouldn't say superior. I would say being able to control both hardware and software does make a difference. So it may seem like it is better on one end over the other. It is more a software deal then a hardware as the screen for the iPhone is produced by Samsung. But apple can build the drivers that will react as expected with the os.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Wasn't iOS released in 2007 and Android in 2008?
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
I was just using iOS as an example because it always seems to be the opposing operating system. It is no different for Windows Phone. My point I was trying to drive is I wouldn't just look at a time frame for Android, but also the path Google has taken with it. They have kept it open source and have been focused more long term. Partly because it is using Android as a tool to promote it's services. Google is more focused on trying to get Android in more peoples hands. The fact that it is willing to let manufacturers modify it with their own frameworks and user interfaces enforces this.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
There are more poorly written apps because google does not police the Play Store. I could write the laggiest possible farting app and release it.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
This is exactly the response I been hoping to hear thank you very much lol, their was one guy on this thread who was pushing the touchscreen issue without any real support behind it, and while I thought maybe it was logical just wanted to hear a sensible thought as to why it was or wasn't the case.
[Nexus 4 General] mattoaida:
Its not lag

I just call it hiccups
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
Does it really matter how it's called? Lag, stutter, hiccups, choppiness. I think we all mean the same when we're talking about scrolling. Anyway I think everything what was to be said in this thread has been already said. It would be imo the best to just let the thread die. :)
[Nexus 4 General] MrToastedAndroid:
Thread=derailed
[Nexus 4 General] blankit:
Idk why people say I phones are not laggy. I have witnessed peoples Iphones freeze right in front of my face and they would have to close all the apps or give the phone a reboot. Most of them were iphone 4s's and 5's.
[Nexus 4 General] ryaniskira:
Lag on N4. What is this lag of which you speak :D

Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0

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Lag on N4 I dont know this lag of which you speak :p

Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0
[Nexus 4 General] AmoghJahagirdar:
Or is this like time lag
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
The only lag I've come across is on my N7.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Deep Brar:
Hey guys, be honest is the android lag fixed nowadays if u compare it to android's in 2010 and 2013 ???
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueVirus:
I have decided to make a Custom ROM for my G3. I just want to know how many people could benefit from same.
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arjav23:
Me

Only if everything works in the rom......... not like cm7 wherein videocam,gps are troublesome
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueVirus:
Not really CM7.

For most part of it it will be based on Froyo and I will try to bring in almost all features available in custom roms for G3.
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernanmoy:
Me and my sister
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aarsg3app:
Me
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nelson George:
come on.....there is plenty of g3 users out there, everybody wants to get a perfect rom for g3 {including me}....if you think you can do it...then do it...you are always welcome:good:
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arjav23:
+1

I am pretty sure that there are a lot others too but they are unaware of the cradle of romulation ( i.e XDA)
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nelson George:
not only g3 users bro, but also other mobile users dont even know about mobile os...especially android:crying:
[Galaxy 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zutnop:
[Q] How many are using Galaxy 3 Globally?

A: At least 42!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Raintech:
Hi there,

I would just wanted to share what I'm using to keep phone standing in landscape mode. It's standing to enough screen pressure either with pen or finger. And since 2-3 days I'm using it without problem. If you put it good, it will stand easily.

Just if you wish, a side info :)

(if you don't see the picture, please refresh the page)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] zeeshanonlyme:
Pic please.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ac16313:
I now know why I got an extra pen lol.

Sent from my SPH-L900
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Dmwitz:
Thanks for sharing that. :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] spacecat:
what are you actually doing would be helpful!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Raintech:
Thanks for your replies.. I've fixed the picture URL, should be shown good now.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Funkym0nkey:
There is another way and using this you wont even need the flip cover and can be used with any case out there.

It is pretty stable and you can use touch screen or additional spen if you wish using this as well. Pretty useful if you use high desk like I do. Even stable on the lunch trays on trains and flights. Been watching movies on flight during recent trips like this. You just need to get hang of ideal position and then its 5 second job.

Here are the pics.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] spacecat:
Excellent idea , you have a similar case to me.

could be very handy for watching stuff.

cheers
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Raintech:
Thanks for sharing this way, it looks very easy and useful in any situation. (Took my 2-3 mins to practise but really hard to find that hang-able spot. Once you're done, then pretty perfect)

Regards
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] dimitrisioa:
Thanks for sharing , both worked fine for me! Happy 2013 to all of you guys!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] x2h:
Thanks for the idea. Now I know why there is a pen lol.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] eBoody:
this is awesome! thank you, and thank physics =)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Godinhell:
:good:Nice nice thanxs for sharing
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] m4xwellmurd3r:
So thats what the pen is for! And silly me bought a seidio active case with a kickstand. Lol awesome idea
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] EP2008:
DIY like a boss!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Tubgirl:
Brilliant! Somebody should really notify Samsung about this and maybe they'll redesign the slot in a future version of the Note.

GT-N7100 via Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Beowulf_pt:
Interesting, looks great for a stationary desk. But will it stand the rattle and shake of a commercial airplane? Or train? Doesn't look like it. (I don't have a Note 2 yet to test)

Sometimes it's even hard to sip the coffee, let alone watch the movie on the little snack tray on cattle class.

Good tip still, tho.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Funkym0nkey:
Is actually stable for flight after initial ascend is over. We had minor turbulence on one of the flights and it held up well there. Thanks to my case it actually gets grip on the surface of the tray.

It just does not have enough angle to be stable during initial ascend on flights.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] twe90kid:
doesn't this waste battery if the phone constantly detect for the spen?

this is my cheap way

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2062688
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] guzzle:
Nice...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] WVFAN1:
Cool trick I like it.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] GreatDad:
i just got me a good case that did the trick look mom no hands
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mazubo:
I thought so too. However there is an s pen setting which allows you to disable the phone trying to detect the pen while seperated from the device :)

From my Note 2 You =-)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] quarlow:
No, that disables the pen detection when the pen is IN the phone, not away from the phone.

Sent from my Note ][
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Raintech:
This should not be a big deal with 3200 mAH battery. If talking about flights then a second battery or an extender or at least a USB cable you're already carrying with you. And all things today have an USB port anyway.

Kind regards,
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] owl74:
Haha this made me smile... reminds me of my BMX days....
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] soljakid:
haha this threads brilliant. samsungs slogan - "be creative" : genius
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Raintech:
Who knows maybe next note will come along with a supportively modified s-pen to keep the phone standing.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Norsemon:
i have no case on mine so when i tried that, the phone was sitting on the power button and was constantly trying to reboot
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Bucika:
Hello, I want to know the name of the default font for Xperia T

I have borrowed the screenshot from Ambroos (I hope you don't mind, mate!) for this, as he is using the default font on his Xperia.

Here it is:

Thank you for Answers:fingers-crossed:!

By the way, is the same font used for the statusbar?

And to everyone; Have a nice year Ending, and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sirus2012:
I'm looking to change my build prop on my nexus 7 due to some apps and games on market saying game or app is not compatible with my device. I know the device is more than capable of running all games and is very frustrating. How do I change the build prop and what risks are involved in the procedure? CNT find much on the search for changing build prop but get un related results.