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[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
RIM and BB are proof that no smartphone is immortal. If somebody had said 5 years ago that RIM would be hemorrhaging money they'd have been thought a fool. Look where they are today.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Ashtrix:
Have a look at how google's integrated into your daily internet needs, not like the commercial microsoft or closed apple types, we may have development on this OS but how many people around the globe would tend to shift to another OS in this cost effective market of OEM's :rolleyes:.

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hmm that is good, any surprises from canonical would be great ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] crixley:
Yeah it also says mock up on it
[Ubuntu Touch General] robogoflow:
Lol Apple's already filing for a lawsuit as we speak.

Sent from a slice of Galaxy Nexus with some Rasbean Jelly!
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
lmao I won't be surprised.

I give them about 2 months before we see the first sign of greed from them
[Ubuntu Touch General] vbauer86:
Is this a rom like miui that puts just another layout over the usual android os?

Or is this a independent os with it's own apps? How about playstore, will it still be available on this?

Greetz

Gesendet von meinem Galaxy Nexus mit Tapatalk 2
[Ubuntu Touch General] evil_penguin:
Its not android. Its an different OS.

It has its own app store..

Play store will be not be available in Ubuntu (Duh!)

Do a Google search, It doesn't harm.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
I suggest you catch up and read about this/ watch some videos.

This is a new OS, different from android, build by Canonical for Ubuntu. It will have its own independent app store which will hopefully develop into something great.
[Ubuntu Touch General] andQlimax:
google make GAPPS for iOS too, do you noticed it?

if ubuntu mobile will get popular in some years, for sure google will make gapps for ubuntu too
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Some interesting things are already in development:

Simple twitter client and some other things. Too early to say but looks promising!

Ubuntu App Developers Group
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Maps =/= Gapps
[Ubuntu Touch General] Rusty!:
There is more than Maps for iOS.
[Ubuntu Touch General] andQlimax:
google make the same apps, both from android and ios

chrome, youtube, gmail, google now, drive, earth, play book, etc..for iphone and ipad
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
I wonder how many pages this thread will reach by the time of the release...

Any bets? lol
[Ubuntu Touch General] tomzefi:
40 pages in 13 days thats approximately 3 pages a day. Assuming its released in about 45 days should bring the page number to approximately 170. Factor in all the activity the thread will get when it nears the release, i would say about 220 pages. Good?

sent from another GALAXY
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
Google wants to gather data and display ads in your search ... that is their business and that has nothing to do with being rivals, as that helps Google as well.. as already mentioned, there are apps for ios ..

Those icons such as maps, gmail, facebook and twitter are all webapps , nothing but the mobile webpage of those services .. For the start okay..

Anyway I'll be working on a barcode scanner app using QML and the zbar lib .. Need that before I switch :) ..
[Ubuntu Touch General] :
It seems many people are interested in this OS so I think it is possible that this will be a really great OS! I want to go away from Google in my Nexus so I'm waiting for the first Alpha. Maybe we'll have a few apps then!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Ubuntu Touch General] snapdesign:
I have a question...the ubuntu and android will be available at the same time? like dual booting? Or just one OS at a time?
[Ubuntu Touch General] :
Wie will see...

Samsung Galaxy Note
[Ubuntu Touch General] Carlos_Manuel:
Only one OS..

If you flash Ubuntu then you have Ubuntu, if you flash Android you will have Android OS.. I think there is no way to dual boot Ubuntu and Android on Nexus, because Nexus doesn't have external SD card
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
It is therotically possible kind of like what they did on the Nexus 7 but from what I heard, its highly unstable if not done correctly.

The question of the day is if the Ubuntu on Android project is on hold or are they still working on it. I thought they would have showed it off during CES but only Ubuntu Mobile OS.
[Ubuntu Touch General] koolkapish:
super exited

cant wait to flash ubuntu, super exited and waiting for the release, and if it would be on a dual os basis Andriod + Ubuntu then Gnex will be killer
[Ubuntu Touch General] aimcr7:
What ubuntu on Android project? I only heard they will show it off during CES and they did it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Well the Ubuntu for phone is this current project where a whole new Ubuntu OS will be implemented, replacing android completely.

The Ubuntu on Android project is having a regular android phone run a fully accessible Ubuntu desktop only when it is docked. So still an android phone but with a hidden desktop inside so you can just dock it and have a desktop running. Like so --> Click Me

Video
[Ubuntu Touch General] tomzefi:
Sweet video and it makes total sense. I see most os's going this direction. But i would love to implement that. I am on my phone much more than on my laptop. Cant wait to see this across more platforms.

sent from another GALAXY
[Ubuntu Touch General] djluis48:
What about Ubuntu OS changing to a fully Ubuntu Desktop when docked? Pretty much like the late Webtop platform. That would be great! I think that might be the direction that these guys are going.
[Ubuntu Touch General] negrobembon:
2 different official Os's for the same phone? man i got a lot more than what i paid for this phone.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tomzefi:
Ya I have an upgrade and won't use it. Nothing out there to use it on yet. Not for sprint at least
[Ubuntu Touch General] tomixdev:
i think/hope we'll get a "Galaxy Nexus Ubuntu Development" forum.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Would be nice.

But there is a Ubuntu for Phones section --> Here
[Ubuntu Touch General] deepfriedbutter:
Agreed. I was looking at the note 2 and the DNA, but I would like DNA specs with SD card and removable battery.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Gnivol:
guinea pig nexus, :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
Considering that Ubuntu Mobile won't be ready until 2014, I don't think anybody is going to keep their Ubuntu installation for more than a few days.
[Ubuntu Touch General] salahmed:
I have another android device so it depends on many factors like WiFi hotspot because I use it to share the connection. So I can stay using Ubuntu OS on the GNex and keep the other on android.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
I doubt that. Considering the popularity of this release already and the interest of many app developers I think it might be worth more than a few days. Just my opinion - you could be right too but this could be a game changer.

Just because the physical phone won't release till 2014 does not mean that development and support for this will not be strong.

Aslong as the basics work and I have a few apps to play around with, I will be satisfied with having a little variety in my phone! :victory:
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
Here is an article on zdnet that points to the same direction http://www.zdnet.com/top-5-reasons-the-ubuntu-linux-phone-might-make-it-7000009721/

Point 4 (Upgradability) and 2 (Desktop Software Compatibility) sound also interesting.
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Yup assuming it has the basics and is great with battery life and much faster I'll probably continue to use UM.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

It's coming out this February..
[Ubuntu Touch General] slayr76:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I doubt many people will switch to Ubuntu from jellybean , even if some do they will soon flash back to android os, I can only imagine how buggy an incompatible Ubuntu will be with everything an missing all the usual features android users rely on.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mikkodd:
lol i cant wait to switch from android. Its an unpolished pos
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I'm sure it's Android that's the problem. /s
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Welcome to anything based on Linux. Implement one feature, wreck a bunch of other features. Its been that way for years
[Ubuntu Touch General] iLeopard:
Agreed. I don't stick with a ROM because of how great it looks, the hype or popularity, nor the variation but rather its functionality. Basics are not enough for me. I need something stable, fast and clean with proper tweaks.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dragn4rce:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Well I don't do much with my nexus anymore.

Although I use current, xda, chrome, Pandora, Google+, and Google music.

Pretty sure only a few will be there. But we'll see, not really a power user anymore. Nothing more 45 apps vs the 325 i had lol:p.

Most likely I'll stick with Ubuntu if I get battery life and it's stable.

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[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I don't understand why you would say that. Not only is it being developed for the GN first they are probably ironing out bugs before release. Now yes, I'm sure we will have plenty of other bugs/glitches whatever to wreak havoc but I'm sure it will be pretty stable. Not to mention "at least from what I've seen" we don't know how we are going to get updates. It could be painless as an update through the air or just installing a new ROM. We don't know how often it will be updated, assuming it might be every 2 weeks to a month or more.

I can guarantee it will be plenty stable after the first few updates. We just need specifics on the basics and battery life. Honestly I think Ubuntu is a step up from our current Android OS.. I think this gesture thing is perfect, now you have a full on screen without buttons.

Anyway I doubt anyone will switch off Ubuntu within a few days, unless its something serious that halts its users you can probably expect a lot of users sticking to it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] raikkoni27:
It is coming by the end of February I guess as said at CES 2013 :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] prembox:
+1 on this. I'd move to Ubuntu as well ....just for a change of OS ecosystem ...what the hell....I'd not mind flashin WP 8 if it is made available for GNex...change is something I guess the reason for so many ppl flocking XDA....isn't it? So bugs or not...I'll try Ubuntu for sure...
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I'll switch and stay on Ubuntu as soon as it is released.. Its been my main os since Ubuntu 4.10 and I have been using Linux for as my main os since SuSE Linux 7.0 ...

The only reason I use android is the lack of real alternatives (there is no way i will buy or have some apple product or a windows phone)

Android is for me only accepted but Ubuntu or other any similar linux on the phone is actually wanted..

Ubuntu phone will be my platform of choice for development, I don't care if it has success as long as it stays :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

The Human Nature has Scarcity ---- ←(Forgot the name) well technically we want what we can't have or have little of.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Lolanerd:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

So if Ubuntu drops for the gnex around the end of next month, how long do you guys think it'll be before it's open to other devices such as the gs3?
[Ubuntu Touch General] andQlimax:
R: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Will u stay on it without whatsapp, Google maps, youtube and thousands of other apps? When it will come in February there will not be any store where to download apps, and no apps will come for at least a couple of months

Will u still stay on it without apps for 2 months if u have no other phones?

Well me not... I will try it for half day, then will revert because I need my phone functionally.

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
How do you know for sure if developers have not already created some useful apps. Perhaps devs of whatsapp have already began working on a ubuntu mobile version and will release fairly soon after canonical's release.

To each his own - so you can try it for half day but there might be some people that grow fond of it regardless of the app market. Im sure people will be considerate towards the fact that it is only in its begining stage.

Baby steps
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

They have stated there will be an app store and when it starts rolling it'll be great. And brilliant competition to the likes of Google and amazon and never know mite just take another chunk outta apple!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Sure... I won't die now just because some minor thing's are missing.. Gee.. Its just software.. :) What'sapp will come or not, I mean hey if you want to write me something try using a email its free and available on every platform :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] beekay201:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

My guess is that Canonical already has the OS ready/is ironing out last details, they're just waiting on more apps to add to the launch portfolio.

Sent from my i9250
[Ubuntu Touch General] snapdesign:
Seen this? It seems ubuntu experience is very catchy...
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

That was what iOS peeps actually used as an excuse not to get Android when ANDROID came in, what happened? Look at how many iOS devices are selling compared to Androids..

I'm just saying, Do not underestimate Ubuntu Mobile, we should be glad that a new mobile platform is launching, regardless of the conditions, it'll just mean more possibilities for us in the future :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] andQlimax:
R: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I didn't say I will never use Ubuntu.....

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Whatsapp will not make an app for Ubuntu until actual handsets come out in stores with Ubuntu on them and I really doubt we will see that even in 2014 in Western countries. Also, in the very low chance that there is an Ubuntu Whatsapp, you can't help but look at how terrible the app is on Windows Phone, which will probably sell on more handsets than Ubuntu ever will.
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Absolute rubbish . They see a market out there which is ripe enough to take a big part of it. Its unique and its what the public get a buzz from and that's what we all like to buy into. Its sold to the public already!!!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] slayr76:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

You really think they will have enough apps, look at the size of appstore an play store , people won't use an os that has only a handful of apps, Ubuntu won't even come close to windows mobile appstore which is a graveyard.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
Then I hope that hike will make an Ubuntu-App. And I think the developers of WhatsApp have also to think about this possibility. Because they're not having an monopol anymore.

But I would use Ubuntu on my Phone, even there is no WhatsApp. I only wish there will be an easier way to update/upgrade the system as on android, and that battery life will not be worse than on android.
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I guess that depends on what you want in particular. I'm just needing the basics - Phone, Text, Web Browser, Calculator and Calendar. Which I'm sure is added already. Anything else is just candy for me.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyhook:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

I'd switch in a heartbeat. Just me because I don't worship at any tech company alter.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Jimlarck:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Didn't imply that you were never going to use it, just said that we shouldn't underestimate UbuntuOS.

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I have never used Whatsapp so it doesn't bother me..
[Ubuntu Touch General] FPSKunal:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Until the os is out I guess I can use a theme. :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] Esteway.619:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Nice. Same for me. Lol. Still working on it haha.
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Sharing via pm? Looks nice and will motivate me to setup my phone :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] negrobembon:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

i hope this really picks up, android needs some real contenders

iOS just sits on its own ass offering the same over and over and Wp8 is not putting much of a fight(blackberry is dead for now, but theyre trying to innovate, we'll see in the future)

but in the end maybe i just want to see an android alternative that actually feels worth having
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dsmforlife92:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

What theme is that can't you share please
[Ubuntu Touch General] alfiemenace:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Only the navbar gives it away haha

Stock ROM, custom user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Dsmforlife92:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

K
[Ubuntu Touch General] Juno-First:
How can you plug your phone into a docking station & use it as a PC? All the docking stations ive found usually just charge the phone & even the samsung dock does not allow data over the usb.

I have a monitor out cable that plugs in the usb which works well, so do you then need a bt mouse/keyboard?

I think Canonical need get their act together with the desktop OS first...

Ubuntu 12.10 64bit:

*Plug you galaxy nexus in the usb & you'll be lucky to access its files & if you are you'll have to put it in camera mode to be able copy anything to the phone, so I have to dump a rom into the pictures folder. duur.. I know there are dozens of guides online to help you do this but they're like phd stuff & your results are never the same.

*With 12.10 they finally fixed the networking so you can easily access windows smb over lan, but you still cant save a file from a web browser over the network.

-usially when i shut the lid on my laptop to go into suspend it wont wake up afterwoods & I have to turn the power off.

I think Canonical need inprove everything to make their desktop/phone OS more useable by Jo Bloggs. Else their userbase will only ever consist of nerds.

I use Ubuntu in preference to win8 as its a laptop not a tablet, but there are a load more bugs with Ubuntu.

My advise to Canonical:

*Make your OS more user friendly like Windows.

*Fix all the bugs to make it as bug free as Windows.

*If you're making a phone OS then at least include working drivers for your main development phone in your latest desktop OS.

*Include seemless running of Windows apps as per Wine, so as not to discourage people worried about losing their favourite Windows app.

*Sticking a monitor on a wall with just a mouse/keyboard is great, but they dont make it easy to do when using a phone with Ubuntu.

*ADVERTISE... I doubt most people have ever heard of Ubuntu.

Oh, & if there are any spelling mistakes its because the spellchecker in the included Fireffox only works intermittantly.
[Ubuntu Touch General] yepitsme19:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

*Ubuntu is very user friendly as is...

*pretty bug free too, at least for me. Just don't use 3rd party repos or development updates.

*Why include the drivers? The "oh so friendly" Windows doesn't..

*If people are worried about losing their precious Windows apps, stick with Windows. Ubuntu is an ALTERNATIVE to Windows, not a different version of Windows.

*If you want more advertising, you can pay for it :)

Oh, and if there are any spelling mistakes, it's because the spellchecker in the current offered education only works intermittently* ;) . You can't blame "code" for human error. Your education has failed you.

P.S. I am in no way an Ubuntu "fanboi". I prefer Fedora. I just couldn't read such arrogance and sit idly by.
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
There's no market for Ubuntu phones yet. Only the most foolish of companies would devote resources to a phone that probably will never show up on carrier store shelves.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Sdobron:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

Have had zero issues with mtp storage on Ubuntu. You're doing something wrong. Ubuntu is more user friendly than Windows imo. You just need to be remotely computer savvy, obviously you are not. Ubuntu is not looking to bring every clueless Windows user to the platform. WINE is easy enough as is, the more you use Ubuntu the less you'll even need to use MS apps anyway.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Juno-First:
I am computer savvy, since coding games on the BBC 25yrs ago, so I feel sorry for the average Windows immigrant. Unless Canonical want to keep Ubuntu within the preserve of the nerd.

Nexus compatibility with Ubuntu 12.04 would only allow file transfer 10% of the time but 12.10 is a bit better though nautilus will sometimes crash. Thats straight after a fresh install with updates. Its not my cable as in Windows it picks it up every time including ADB for ROM stuff.

Does anyone have issues with the multi desktop spreading the edges of windows across desktops making it difficult to resize them?

Like the bug this hour is when the included Thunderbird is full screen & you compose a new email in another window & selecting this window from the side bar it will dissapear when you start writing in that window & show the main Thunderbird. I guess i'll have to shrink the main window to I can write an email then make it full screen after.

I really do like Ubuntu & want to get away from 'the man' (Windows), but its tough to live with atm, so I see the same happening with Ubuntu mobile. Unless Canonical go more mainstream with their usability.
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
The sad thing is that if you really want Canonical to go mainstream and push forth a 4th platform that can really compete, Canonical will eventually become "the man" as well, just like Google did. In fact I'd say that people probably are more wary of Google than Microsoft these days.
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

What like apple or like samsung?! We have had lots of people in our stores and others asking the question when is there going to be Ubuntu operating system's on our phones!! You won't just find this just as a custom ROM, there here to challenge android and the likes. If the people want it its then FOOLISH for any company to ignore it!!!! Corporate company's are greedy b.......ds and will want a piece of the goodies and that's plain a simple!!
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
The people asking for Ubuntu on their phones are not your average consumer. They are geeks like you and me who read this kind of stuff all the time, and they have specific interests which make them exceptionally rare among techies. They are such a small part of the consumer base that really, they will not be enough of a voice to make carriers put Ubuntu in their stores.

I personally see Ubuntu as something of an alternate OS for Android smartphones that Canonical will support on select models every year (read, Nexus and the top 2 best selling handsets that year, max), not an OS that you will see on display in a store.

If any open source OS has a chance at being a high visibility alternative to Android, it's Tizen, which has Intel, Samsung and the Linux Foundation behind it.

Either way, I'm putting Ubuntu on my Nexus next month. I gotta try it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
Re: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile

My friend when you try it you will realise how simple it is to operate and you will have a change of opinion! guaranteed , simplicity is the key!!!