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[Ubuntu Touch General] sickopsycho:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...on-of-its-os-just-for-your-pocket-superphone/

The "next couple of weeks" according to their press release. This is really sick- instead of running ubuntu on top of android it takes android out of the equation altogether. Plus it runs with current existing Android kernels and drivers. I'm super stoked- Can't wait to get my hands on it either!
[Ubuntu Touch General] Cimi86:
Installing Ubuntu on your phone is very easy, you can do this from cwm...

I will keep you guys updated once we release the img files!
[Ubuntu Touch General] heat361:
Do you work for canonical?
[Ubuntu Touch General] carstairs:
Glad to see the market moving towards unifying our devices. My only hesitancy is that I use Google Voice for SMS and calls, though no VOIP. I'd need support for that and I'd have to see if Ubuntu One can rival Google Music (or if Google Music will find its way over). Since Voice and Music have both found their way over to iOS in various forms, I'm hopeful and excited. Ubuntu already has good integration with most Google services and it's all Linux so I'm optimistic for support.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Febby:
That looks so beautiful! I'm not very knowledgeable with this project so I have a question, will it be able to possibly run android applications native or is going to be huge different overhaul of an OS.

edit: NVM, it would appear as if not after reading through their site a bit... But do feel free to tell me. :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Yea unfortunately you will not be able to run android apps, it will have it's own specific market place. They have already put up some tips on developing for mobile so Im sure some people have already gotten a head start on it :fingers-crossed: using html 5 or native apps..

Really can not wait for this, I keep checking the website and thread for updates..would be awesome to see a release this week as a surprise. :good:
[Ubuntu Touch General] ppsudeki:
I would love to try this when it is available.. totally awesome
[Ubuntu Touch General] rygran87:
It isn't a matter of soft buttons that he was talking about. It's more about phones like the Atrix, SGS II and III, and any other potentially compatible phones that have capacitive or hard buttons below the screen.

Edit: Also I didn't think the HD2 had a dual core processor. The minimum spec is a 1Ghz dual core A9.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Reed of California:
Like everyone else I can't wait to try this on my Gnex. I just wonder how far down this will trickle. My EVO view would be a brand new beast (as I'm sure most older tablets would) with Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Only for a certain time. I have no doubt that soon enough a dev will be able to map out actions to the keys.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Processor architecture is ancient.
[Ubuntu Touch General] DirgeExtinction:
Whoaaa there, cowboy. Where did I say I don't want to install it? I simply stated a thought.
[Ubuntu Touch General] bob.santaniello:
How polished do you guys think the OS will be on initial release?
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Not very. I expect no shortage of minor bugs and at least one major one. Not to mention security exploits out the wazoo. The odds of it being flawless are pretty astronomical.
[Ubuntu Touch General] bob.santaniello:
My only hope is that the functionality of CDMA radios are there.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Decalc:
New article on OMGUbuntu says it's ready in the end of February. Long wait :(
[Ubuntu Touch General] xyzulu:
The title of this thread should be adjusted to: Canonical releases Ubuntu Mobile Demo Video

.. right now it's rather misleading.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyco2008:
Yeah phones today are still coming with those now three buttons built in to the phone. I guess they could be mapped, but Ubuntu Mobile is way different from Android, there could be a "back" I guess, and maybe even a "home", but there's no app switcher that I know of... It just wouldn't be right is my point, not that it couldn't be done.

Haha yeah this is one port the HD2 won't get.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Terd Ferguson:
Saw that article as well. Long ways away still, hopefully someone leaks it
[Ubuntu Touch General] corypaul:
Dangg well I not looking at this for a while.. They should just release what they have and send out updates like they do with the desktop version
[Ubuntu Touch General] rekrapg:
I am not sure how this will go from an OEM point of view, only time will tell. However, I can see some manuafacturers may benefit from partnering with Ubuntu Phone - for example, Amazon. They are battling out with Google currently for the lower end tablet market, using Googles OS. If they were to switch to Ubuntu OS, it would be a) cheaper for them, and b) give them something different to offer customers other than just another flavour of Android. I am sure there are others around the world that would also be interested in offering something different too.

As an Ubuntu Desktop user, I currently dual boot so I can also play my games etc, as Wine does not have the ability to use all processor cores currently, Wine is not a great alternative for me personally (running Guild Wars 2 at 23 frames/sec is pathetic on my G55VW). My hope is if this does kick off well, more developers will take notice of Linux and start releasing ports. Unlikely, but one can still hope yeh? Stick Cricket on Ubuntu sounds like fun, both Desktop and Phone :)

I've tried Nexus 7 on full Ubuntu ARM version, and not a fan yet. It has a long way to go. Hoping too that this goes ahead in leaps and bounds too :)

I am also currently using a Nexus 4 as my main phone, but I have a Galaxy Nexus sitting beside my laptop ready to install this OS. As my main OS is Ubuntu, and I am comfortable in everything Ubuntu, and the second this is available (so long as I am not overseas for work) I will be installing this on my GNEX. My Nexus 4 may then go into the cupboard until it gets an Ubuntu version. I have already setup up dev environment for Ubuntu Phone apps, and playing around a bit - it's actually far nicer already than on Android far as I am concerned, but perhaps for me because I am already an Ubuntu user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] sendhiloo7:
Do you anyone checked this video.. OS looking awesome :)

[YOUTUBE]RO7QbCqFY7Y[/YOUTUBE]

Another video

[YOUTUBE]wfIS6YNmK9Y[/YOUTUBE]
[Ubuntu Touch General] MaKTaiL:
It's kind of laggy still, but it looks awesome.
[Ubuntu Touch General] heat361:
Here is another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUh4-nQVWIQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Ubuntu Touch General] bob.santaniello:
I really don't understand why they are not releasing it until the end on February. All the videos I see demoing the device at CES looks like the OS is stable enough for a alpha release.
[Ubuntu Touch General] gielsgaard:
No lock screen , but what if i loose my phone ?
[Ubuntu Touch General] krazykeyur:
Maybe they dont want to release an alpha version.

Many people might be turned off with the laggy interface using the alpha version to bother installing the beta versions.
[Ubuntu Touch General] sendhiloo7:
Till now they never showing about phone , camera app .. I think still they need to do something for daily drive
[Ubuntu Touch General] heat361:
They said that there will be a security feature for a password lock
[Ubuntu Touch General] bob.santaniello:
I guess... I am just too impatient to care about lag right now.
[Ubuntu Touch General] heat361:
It seems they just fixed the lag about an hour ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr1wKMkZYqE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Ubuntu Touch General] anthrax132:
If any beta testers are needed, my GNex is AAAAALLLLLLLL YOURS!
[Ubuntu Touch General] bob.santaniello:
agreed 100%
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Like Canonical would check this thread or even this forum.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Esteway.619:
Lmao
[Ubuntu Touch General] gielsgaard:
They should do that :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] heat361:
But what if they are secretly stalking this thread as we type O.o
[Ubuntu Touch General] BrianDigital:
A project manger did for the nexus 7
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
It would be stupid for Canonical to let anyone here play with it since they'd up it for everyone and it wouldn't be a leak it'd be a downpour.
[Ubuntu Touch General] rygran87:
Lol true
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
For all those with a CDMA/LTE Galaxy Nexus, more than likely the first images released will not be supported on our phones. The biggest hurdle on any CDMA equipped Android device has always been the closed sourced RIL which operates the cellular radio to communicate different tasks such as data, voice, text, etc, etc. Like always, we will have to wait for a Dev to make a custom RIL kind of like what they have to do with most Phones to load up AOSP or CM to have working data, mms and such. Whereas the GSM RIL is pretty generic and open sourced amongst most phones, that's why you see development on those phones goes lightning quick cause they don't fumble with all that radio crap and custom fanangling of the RIL.
[Ubuntu Touch General] heat361:
Here is another video where mark shuttleworth says they have a snappier build of Ubuntu os

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQOtVi6alSQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Ubuntu Touch General] urko95:
[OFF TOPIC TOTALLY] The boy at the back in the video at 00:55 is JORDAN from XDA TV! :D

Regards,

Urko
[Ubuntu Touch General] dancingtortoise:
That lady was horrible. At least she got one thing right, that ui is sexy.
[Ubuntu Touch General] thewilliams1:
The launcher is pretty much an app-switcher on the desktop version.. pretty damn close, anyways.
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Seriously idk why she was doing the interview, not to mention the camera quality is horrible as well.

Glad to hear a new build is out and getting "snappier" thou :good:
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
The second I saw the kind of person interviewing him I knew the video was going to be painful to watch and I was completely right. It's like I accidentally clicked on one of those Tyler Perry movie trailers.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyco2008:
Actually yes, I suppose the switcher button could be used to show the Unity bar, good thinking there.

And to who posted about the CDMA RIL situation, is that just a guess? I mean it's reasonable, but why couldn't Ubuntu just use the RIL we have now, they're already using the kernel and other drivers.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
The RIL unlike the kernel and such is OS dependant. I am pretty positive that's going to be issue since that's usually a issue with most AOSP/CM development on CDMA. Plus, back in the day, when we porting Android over WinMo on XV6900 Vogue, we had to write our own RIL.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tiny4579:
Until source code is available, it's hard to be sure. It's possible Ubuntu may be compatible with the Android RIL. This is pure speculation. The likely event is that we'd have to write a RIL for Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] corypaul:
I completely agree
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
I've honestly lost the desire to flash any Roms because of this lol
[Ubuntu Touch General] corypaul:
Me 2 I look at this forum everyday looking for the words " The IMG is release" and next to it a download button
[Ubuntu Touch General] notanoob:
Cure for my flasholicisim ;)
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyco2008:
That's unfortunate, I didn't know RIL was separate. I wonder if the Canonical guy that's been posting in this thread knows more about it?
[Ubuntu Touch General] beekay201:
If they made all this hype and things aren't working like they should, it won't look nice.

Want to test something? There's other OSes that need help more than Canonical. And I'm not talking about Android clones.

Sent from my i9250
[Ubuntu Touch General] sam razzy:
When it will release to our galaxy nexus..? Any idea ?
[Ubuntu Touch General] aimcr7:
They said in the end of february.
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
I haven't read too much into it but from what I gathered this is essentially a new OS by Ubuntu running Ubuntu? With that said.. Will it have standard phone stuff?
[Ubuntu Touch General] evil_penguin:
ya
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Its still the Ubuntu OS but with a different UI layout for phone but when you dock your phone to a Monitor/TV, then you are presented with the normal desktop UI. Its not two different OSs running on the same device unlike what Ubuntu on Android will do(technically both are running the same Linux OS but one frontend goes to sleep once the other activates either in phone or dock mode).
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
Yeah I just saw some videos, this thing looks so damn amazing. :victory:
[Ubuntu Touch General] alfiemenace:
Do you guys have news if led notifications would still work? :)

Stock ROM, custom user.
[Ubuntu Touch General] epunk:
Very excited for this new OS to come out and am definitely interested in installing it.. however not having WhatsApp anytime soon might be a deal breaker :(

but hey, might still give it a shot on a weekend to play around with and see if it will eventually become my daily runner, when apps become available :D
[Ubuntu Touch General] akira02rex:
I bet there won't be Google Maps.. and if there is it won't near the experience that of Android's client.
[Ubuntu Touch General] BrianDigital:
no duh
[Ubuntu Touch General] ih8sense:
Actually, pretty sure google maps is baked into the OS and it provides the same user experience.

Thing is, Android is just linux, Ubuntu is just linux... in theory the two "OS's" will work with each others apps, there shouldn't really be any changes required.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Actually, that statement is impartially true. In order to run Android on Ubuntu, you need to both implement some form of Android Framework and JVM emulator. In theory it wouldn't be hard to do since its already been done but the developer needs to redo it for the Mobile UI of Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] sendhiloo7:
I dnt thinh it will work until they need some modification. In desktop or server OS suse, Redhat, Ubuntu , ... all are linux .. but they have different executable file for application .. Like RPM,Deb..
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Android is not "just Linux". It's a virtual machine running on top of a Linux kernel. And there's no "theory" that say that the apps will work because they won't. They are written in totally different languages. No offense, but if you don't know what you're talking about don't share your "theories", it only causes confusion.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jurica_m:
You didnt understand him. If Canonical write Maps in Ubuntu code they will work. The thing is in code.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Ubuntu Touch General] amishcrusader:
Today I totally plan on downloading the latest iOS from the Cydia repo on my Gnex, I mean OSX is basically FreeBSD and I heard that you can run linux stuff from BSD, so I will be able to run *BSD, Ubuntu, as well as Android apps all on my phone.
[Ubuntu Touch General] times_infinity:
No... Just... No..
[Ubuntu Touch General] pfulop:
I have a question.

They said you need a 32Gb internal storage for full desktop OS. So that means I need 32Gb G Nexus. But as far as I know the only 32GB is from Verizon?
[Ubuntu Touch General] Carlos_Manuel:
32 gb? It's 3.2 gb and not 32!! ?
[Ubuntu Touch General] TheGman125:
Sprint galaxy nexus is 32gb as well.
[Ubuntu Touch General] ih8sense:
Haha... gotta love the dog piling that this place welcomes... no no gents, my point is, while the OS might be "different" in coding, the applications written to be used by Android OS will run on the Ubuntu OS due to the fact that the hardware running underneath is identical. So, making the software understand the calls demanded by the OS should be a very simple process.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Carlos_Manuel:
I didn't speak about galaxy nexus memory... The full desktop should take 2.5 GB to 3.5 but not 32 because there is no OSs which needs so much memory...
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
Even desktop Win7 Ultimate only needs 25...
[Ubuntu Touch General] jimmyco2008:
2.5?
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
25gb. MInimum HD space to install it.
[Ubuntu Touch General] rekrapg:
No, no no no no. Sorry, but it's people making interpretations on information on the Ubuntu website, not official specs. On their

OEM

site they list the specs for the full version at 32gb + SD. That means nothing to download and install version. It could be for bloatware install, it could be extra features, however, my theory is it's because if you dock it and start installing full blown Ubuntu apps, 16gb internal aint gonna last you long.

However, they are developing the OS using the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. It doesn't have those specs, but they are developing and testing using this device. That tells me, full OS works just fine on the GNEX specs, it might just get space limited real fast when/if you start installing applications to run in the full docked OS, and that's why specs are listed as such for OEM's. Imagine how embarrased Ubuntu and OEM would be if they put the full blown OS on an 8gb internal only device, then the end user whose just bought their phone runs out of space after installing wine, and part way through updating their guild wars 2 data?
[Ubuntu Touch General] andQlimax:
Its the exact contrary

Apps are written for a particular os, not for the hardware...

Apps for Ubuntu os have to be written from scratch.

Convert an android app to an Ubuntu os app, is exactly the same as to port an iOS app to android..u can re-use some images, some part of code logics, but all the code will be different

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
I'm glad some people understand the differences between this and Android.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
But they are both Linux!! :)

It makes sense, duh!!!!

J/K, when will people learn like I said, they either need to implement a Bluestacks like program to emulate the Android framework or port the app to Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] Lockett:
Let me put it terms most people can understand. You have 2 Corvettes (linux), one with a V8 (Android) and one with a 4 cylinder (Ubuntu OS). They are both Corvettes but under the hood is completely different. Sure, you can add the same body kit (images) to both but the underlying motors are still different.
[Ubuntu Touch General] deanesn:
Hold on. Let me try to explain it.

Don't try to understand!!!

Sorry couldn't help myself. I don't post a lot but reading the last few pages just drive me nuts.
[Ubuntu Touch General] barry99705:
Those are package installer files. Basically just fancy zip files. The actual application binary is the same across all linux distros.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
That is true but some users don't realise unlike most Linux distros, Android utilises a special framework of assets and APIs that make the programs/applications work in Android. Kind of like on Ubuntu, if you want to run any Java programs, you need to download/install the JDK or runtimes to use the program or in Windows, you might need to install .Net framework or Silverlight. Hopefully, Android framework can be adopted in a similar fashion to be download/installed on Ubuntu.
[Ubuntu Touch General] ginger man:
Why does Ubuntu OS have to be 4 cylinder? Why can't it be a V6? :P
[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
Basically every video or picture I have seen of this OS shows that there are 14 tweet notifications, and that is the main thing pointed out from the circle...

Coincidence? I think Not!

Expect this to be released by the 14th of either Jan or Feb lol
[Ubuntu Touch General] Segnale007:
I will stick with the V8 soon to be V10.

I want to see your reaction when Xorg will crash on your phone.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Isn't Ubuntu using Wayland now due to something with OpenGL ES stuff and what not?
[Ubuntu Touch General] ginger man:
Boot to prompt, xorgwizard, reboot, xwin! I remember that from my puppy Linux days. That thing crashed weekly haha hopefully this is a little more polished...
[Ubuntu Touch General] crazyg4merz:
Android (sorry typo) only using Linux kernel as the kernel. Ubuntu is only another OS using linux kernel, called as distro. Android is build from Java codes, using dalvik, etc.. Not even Linux as I see. Correct me if I'm wrong :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] times_infinity:
Android uses the Linux kernel as it's kernel as well.
[Ubuntu Touch General] crazyg4merz:
That was typo, edited. Sorry :)
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
Or they're using a dummy account that they never really use.
[Ubuntu Touch General] pfulop:
So I guess there goes my answer.
[Ubuntu Touch General] mirror77:
Maybe it's not working yet and they're using a picture still. Didn't Shuttleworth mention something like this? I will search the video, maybe I misunderstood.
[Ubuntu Touch General] withbloodskies:
Well we know for a fact its late February. Weather it be "14" or not we are receiving it in February. I'm freaking excited. I can't stop touching my phone imaging how this will look.
[Ubuntu Touch General] TingTingin:
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[Ubuntu Touch General] insane08:
I know I just said that for the hell of it. random comment
[Ubuntu Touch General] rickkaptein:
This looks quite interesting !

I only hope there will be a way to use whatsapp on it, because I rely to much on that..
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
Unfortunately no dalvik no whatsapp... The whatsapp guys will have to make a nativ Ubuntu app..
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
That is correct. Although it does use a Linux kernel for the hardware interface, the UI uses a Dalvik manager to host everything in Java unlike most Linux distro that use GNU interface layer. But the term Linux is thrown around so loosely that anything can be Linux fork/derivative or Unix like everything else.
[Ubuntu Touch General] 063_XOBX:
That's totally gonna make a difference. When was the last time a petition did absolutely nothing?

Oh wait, always.

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Even OSX is a Linux derivative the way people just throw it around like it's a magic word that solves all the problems in the World.
[Ubuntu Touch General] smileyanz:
I heard Feb towards end!
[Ubuntu Touch General] rygran87:
So has anyone else who's read the last ~30 pages of this thread.
[Ubuntu Touch General] jscurtu:
OSX != Linux derivative ...while OSX is a BSD derivate (UNIX) based on darwin.. linux is a UNIX clone written from scratch ..

OSX has a mach kernel

linux has a monolithic kernel

Two different things ....
[Ubuntu Touch General] CADude:
I know some people are going to hate this but here is the truth:

Only complete liars are satisfied with the fact that Android is a Java VM on top of the Linux kernel and if Meego had taken off as a true Linux distribution on a phone, the majority of us would tell Google to shove their Java up where the sun doesn't shine and we'd all go embrace a true Linux distro. That's why we always get excited when another open source mobile OS is showing promise.

I mean, come on...nobody here is content with the problems that Java brings to our fun. We all secretly wish Google or any other company would give us Debian/Fedora/Gentoo on a phone.
[Ubuntu Touch General] tallnerd1985:
Here is my opinion or theory, whatever you want to call it about what's going on with Google. I think the main reason why Google is developing ChromeOS is not because of the cloud based part but to develop a complete Linux distro from scratch, sorta. I believe once they get to a comfortable point with ChromeOS, they will implement Dalvik as a runtime for within the window manager then setup the layout tables for mobile, tablet and desktop orientation modes. That way, in mobile mode, you still have access to all the apps out there as legacy support then they can focus on introducing new assets and APIs based on ChromeOS.