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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fastmatt613:
What seems to be unfair to me is the fact that I bought my note 10.1 last Friday from my local best buy and I only have ICS! I wanted to keep this device stock as I go flash crazy enough with my gs3 but if it doesn't roll out soon I might bite the bullet and root.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SamsungSucks:
If your unhappy return it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
I find it increasingly funny to hear of the new xda members who don't want to even root their device. Like something bad is going to happen to it if they do. It's seems to have gone more in this direction in the past year. Am I missing something? They all could have had JB by now. Took me 5 minutes from opening the box turning on the Note 10.1 and using odin to flash a recovery and that recovery to flash a JB rom.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
When I bought mine back in October one of the deciding factors was whether or not it was rootable. I wouldn't have bought the Note if there wasn't a way to root it.

But I did resolved that I was going to wait a while before I did it. At that time the official announcement about the Nexus 10 was just around the corner. I was going to wait to root until the announcement and I'd decided whether to return the Note and buy the Nexus. That resolve lasted all of 2 hours before I was rooted.

And now rooting is so damn easy compared to what was involved back in October. It was a scary and precarious process back then. Now, just run a apk and you're done.

But to each his own I suppose. It's an expensive device. I guess I can understand the trepidation. At the same time, I would never spend this much money and not want to get the most out of it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
You should have seen how rooting was 2+ years ago lol. Now everything is mostly one-click methods. I do see tho how nice this device is stock.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] RonJohnson4164:
As a new member, I can only speak for myself, of course, but I'm on this forum to learn. I don't feel I know enough yet to attempt some of the things that are common to many of the members of the site, and I'm also not sure that there is any benefit to rooting for a noob like me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
Actually same for me.

I rooted my device, but the good mobile for enterprise stopped working.. that i need to check my corporate mails. Without that this tablet is pointless for me.

Even when i was rooted, i did not know what could i do now...

I love stock os provided by samsung.. and dont wish to change it. I love it.

I have no need for root explorer.. because i dont know what to change and why. I am so happy with my note already.

I have no need for titanium backup, becaue i dont intend to wipe my device to load another rom.

I DON'T MIND ROOTING, IF I GET SOME TANGIBLE BENEFIT FROM ROOTING.

What am i missing by not rooting? Is it like a status symbol?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cjones1348:
I've also been on the fence post about rooting mine, haven't yet b/c like you I enjoy this tablet stock. Nova launcher gives me plenty of options with the stock rom. I only wish for multi-view to work properly and that has been why I've been debating root to jump to JB....I loved rooting my Galaxy Nexus, had tons of options and ran AOKP - but I don't feel the need to do this with my tablet. Heck, I've not even considered rooting my Note 2; the only thing with it that I've found so far that I don't like and can't change is the stupid ongoing wifi notification in the pull down menu!

I also would like to know the answer to your question; outside of jumping to JB, what are the main reasons people are rooting the note 10.1?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ReggieTee:
I've rooted, rom'd, and themed every Android phone i've had. Based on how I use my tablet, there really isn't a reason that I need to root. I had the Nexus 7 and rooted it and tried a few ROMs. Ok, cool. I unrooted and took the 4.2 update and never rooted it again. I didn't see a need too. I use my tablet a lot differently that how I use my phone. Most people use these tablets for web browsing and media consumption. Both can be done without the need for root. I will continue to wait for Samsung to push the update. If they don't push it by early February (my return period to best buy), I'll be returning it. I like the extra features the 10.1 has over the Nexus 10 but knowing it'll be updated quickly to the next version of Android is a plus. I don't sweat over not having 4.2 on my SIII but 4.1 is what i'd like to see soon the 10.1 without having to root. I'm probably being a little stubborn about rooting it right now but that's how I am for now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
I play a lot of games. For me Titanium Backup is an integral part of my experience. It allows me to backup game progress and move it between my tablet and my phone.

I also use root to allow me to run AdAway. Again, playing a lot of games, this is almost a necessity.

And I did want the full multi-window experience, and I didn't want to wait. So I loaded the 4.1.2 German ROM on my 8013. The program that I then used to setup the multi-window requires root.

Root was also important on my phone. Motorola put a ton of unwanted apps on their phones. There are two ways to get rid of them. Either freeze the apps in Titanium Backup or run custom ROMs. Either of those require root.

It's really not a lot of reasons. But they are all important to me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cjones1348:
I can agree with this, Titanium Backup is a plus along with AdAway. But I use my tablet mainly for business, note taking, and email/internet. Not really gaming. Though I could see myself eventually rooting my Note 2 simply for AdAway...just differences in what the device niche is for me I guess.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
This is a bit OT but I thought it was kind of funny. Look at the size of the logo on the VZW Note. Holy crap. They even had their logo etched on the power button of the Note 2. Branding taken to all new heights. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Zeblade:
If you want to root then root if not then great don't. Try not to give people a hard time when they really are unsure. Funny? Yeah when they read WARNING! IF somethings goes wrong and you brick it or what ever its your fault don't blame me blah blah.. does not really help.

Rooting I think for most is not needed. Its just a way to access more of the OS so to speak. Some programs wont let you use them unless your rooted like the Tit backup or some launchers, overclock, different roms that some make and WARNING! lol. Don't be fooled allot use it for other reasons but for the most its no different then Jailbreaking the Ipod/Ipad. You can add themes, icons ..just cant with the new A6 chip..yet

This this the real world and most people don't want to help. Just ignore them and keep asking someone will always help.

Like someone said with the Note..its so easy to root and reset the counter and put stock back on..but if its not wrong then why have to reset the counter? :) For me the Note is great the way it is.. other Androids ..need a mod/rom these guys do make them look awesome...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GSLEON3:
Listen, Samsung really is all about displays. Look at their new 110" 4K resolution LED. The reason between a Note 10.1 & a Nexus 10 is about much more than pixel density & resolution, I know as I have both sitting in front of me right now & I actually use both.

First, the Note 10.1 is for people that are creative in the areas of visual arts, drawing, animating & for those that have careers that require marking up documents & taking many notes, or even sketching out designs. The Note 10.1 is very good at this & because of that, because of the Wacom digitizer, the display pixel density is limited. Samsung probably would have loved to add a 1080 or better display to the Note 10.1, but because of the Wacom restrictions with this particular Wacom series, they are limited on what they could use. There are higher resolution graphic tablets out there that have Wacom's, but many of them still have pretty low pixel densities. Higher one would have made the tablet cost a heck of a lot more, maybe starting around a grand, or more, which would have severely limited their target market.

Honestly, most of the time, you really cannot tell the difference between the Note 10.1 & Nexus 10 displays. A lot of content is not optimized for the display on a device like the Nexus 10. Color is a little more life like on the Nexus 10 & high resolution images do look better, but it is not a ton better. Fine fonts do look quite a bit better on the Nexus 10, but that's about it.

I use the Nexus 10 for playing games & watching videos. It is better at those things...well, sometimes... I will tell you that Asphalt 7 plays better on the Note 10.1 than the Nexus 10. The gyro on the Nexus 10 isn't quite right on every unit I've tried. You have to hold the unit just about straight up & down to steer in Asphalt, where the Note 10.1 works great at all angles. All in all, I actually prefer my Note 10.1 over my Nexus 10. The Note just has more features, operates with less lag in games & has no issue with full screen web videos. The Nexus 10 is nice, but it is a few updates away from being stellar. The processor does not feel all that more powerful, the displays are not drastically different most of the time, it's like the difference between 720p & 1080p to me, noticeable on very HD content when you are really looking for the differences & my Note 10.1 charges faster & stays powered probably 25% longer than my Nexus 10.

Honestly, the Note still impresses me from time to time. The Nexus 10 is a bit of a disappointment to me & unless you are only interested in playing videos & ultra-HD games that don't really exist in numbers yet , I would recommend the Note 10.1 over the Nexus 10.

The Nexus 10 & its great display actually are a let down after you have seen all of the features & uses that the Note 10.1 posses. All the Nexus is, is updates & a display. The Note 10.1 is just so much more.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
The challenge with 1080P and higher displays with enourmous PPI is that they require a great deal of power to drive them. So while Exynos 5 is the more modern and powerful SoC, it's driving twice the number of pixels as Exynos 4 on the Note. In addition, because of the display's demands, memory bandwidth is hard-coded to support the display even when it's not necessarily being used. Battery life suffers too. So while 147PPI is nothing to write home about it's a lot less demanding of the CPU/GPU/Battery.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
This will probably make a lot of your heads explode but it puts to bed the speculation about patent suits and other stuff delaying the JB update in the U.S.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sams...ly-Bean-Upgrade-in-North-America-319894.shtml
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
Boom, head shot.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
wth, the galaxy tab 2 7inch get JB even before the note 10.1. holy ****!:mad:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Barsky:
on principle, if true, this blows. realistically, I'm already running 4.1.2 and have never stayed on a samsung stock rom.

When it finally does come out, I suppose we just won't have to worry about roms disabling the phone portions so activesync to exchange works. not sure I'll notice any difference otherwise.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] agzela:
To Samsung

It would make us happy now that the Galaxy Tab 2 got 4.1.1 that you are planning to release 4.1.2 for the 8013 and thus the delays.......Wishful thinking?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] COA4178:
Lol well is really what ever know since I'm running the redemption ROM of Germany base is smooth and multi window is great. Got tired of waiting for USA to launch. Can't complain
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kumki:
THis is true. I am downloading update via Kies for my kids 2 Tab 2 7.0 tablets now :):D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
a 200$ device is getting the update before the 500$ device. what the heck are you thinking, samsucks? :mad:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Only three things left that I can think of.

1) The Exynos exploit (is it even fixed yet in the shipping N8013 ROM?) may have hijacked some of the resources working on Exynos-based ROMs delaying their releases in general (the G-Tab 2 is OMAP).

2) Samsung’s just being Samsung with their priorities hard to gauge.

3) The U.S. Note's JB update is being held up to give VZW some semi-exclusive selling time.

I think "3" is unlikely because what you'd pay over two years for a VZW Note with a data-plan doesn’t make it a realistic alternative for people just looking for a "tablet." "1" seems a potential candidate especially if the shipping ROM hasn't been de-exploited yet (why would you push an update you know you need to update?). And "2" perennially exists in regards to any Samsung device updates.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] agzela:
Losing interest in US!!

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/201...us-because-of-questionable-consumer-interest/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SayaX:
No point in being pessimistic. :) I downloaded the Jelly bean up date to my Tab 2 7.0. Thanks for the notification! I would've checked, but I have been busy for the past day, but usually check here first anyway
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] joe139:
Take it for what it's worth. It is better than you may get it sometime.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ReggieTee:
I mean, I believe that. Still would be nice to know exactly when. I think it will be any day now and there will just be an announcement that it's available.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
I think that, even in small releases, it would have hit one of the tech sites had it come out.

Take what ever Samsung states, with a pound of salt.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] drei666:
I agree.

LOL

p.s.

It took less than 10 days to break my digitizer glass after a drop on the floor :((

Anyway after it got repaired is like brand new.

dREI
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
ECR customer service is confirming

For what it is worth the ECR ticket contact I posted about last week has stated that it is out and coming in batches. But it has been officially released. Not sure I believe them but.......
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
I too chatted with samsung reps, and got the same message.

Jb has been released to a few selected devices today... full roll out will happen as soon as it is possible.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SayaX:
Wow, interesting we now have two incidents of this. Seriously, I'm not worried. It will be released when it will be released. In the meantime, I get to test it out on my Tab 2 7. But... if I really wanted it now, I would've just installed a custom ROM. I have it rooted and clockwork in case I ever want to upgrade.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
Here is a screenshot of my chat...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cjones1348:
I essentially had the same convo a couple hours ago, select few and they're seeing how the servers respond. I tried to get an estimated time for the main release but he just kept saying as soon as possible... So maybe this week?

I've also not been able to find any confirmation from a n8013 owner.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SamsungSucks:
Up date is downloading now to my note 10.1. I'm in the US.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] thachosenone:
Same here. Size is 478mb so I'm sure this is it. Nice.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ExploreMN:
So if I did the CWM recovery and rooted this thing will I still get notified for an update or do I need to do something else like putting stock recovery back?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] joe139:
Same here in Philly. I will see what it is in about 18 minutes.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SamsungSucks:
You might, but since your rooted and use CWM you can't won't be able to apply the update. You will need to use CWM to flash the image. I could be wrong.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] thachosenone:
I'm glad I waited. This way, if it bricks, I can get a new one from Samsung. :D. Warranty baby!

Update: installed and it's 4.1.2, with dual screen mini apps include things like taptu and YouTube support. Pretty awesome.com
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cjones1348:
Update in progress, I didn't back anything up (couldn't wait) so fingers crossed! U.S. version, bought in August.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] cjones1348:
PROOF!!!

Working well so far....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ReggieTee:
Guess we can put to bed the ridiculous notion that Samsung waiting to release the Note on Verizon. That just never made any sense to me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GETCASHMONEY:
So if we flashed german 4.1.2 how do we switch back? Wait for Sam firmware to post the file and flash through mobile odin? Then will all be back to stock?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lm that guy:
Pretty much.

edit: or you could just flash the ICS firmware from sam firmware, triangle away your flash count then update OTA that way.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] chuck-b:
Unless you want to flash ICS stock firmware, then get the JB update OTA !

Still nothing other than 4.0.4 on SamFirmware
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] atatistcheff:
Getting a new message now when I check for updates, maybe it has begun?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] atatistcheff:
Updating via Kies right now, looks like the day has finally come in the US.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] bookbean:
I am new to the Keis process. Where on that screen would I see the update notification and how is that any different then from the "about device" screen? By the way, I noticed on the Samsung website that they have changed the OS description back to Jelly Bean.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I have a feeling update will come very soon. BUT, will likely only come through KIES. Just like it did for the AT&T SG3. We never got JB OTA. The official update only came through KIES.

I'd rather wait for my reigon version of JB to flash.

Has anyone with 8013 hooked up to Kies lately to see if it shows an update available?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] crystalstylez:
Just tried on Kies and that is a negative.

Still showing up to date.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] younix258:
I'll give it a try... brb
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Castle5665:
Did the factory reset on mine. Still the same. Up to date.:-[
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] younix258:
Yep same, and it wont restore my nandroid backup

Sent from my HTC Glacier running CM7
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
got to the bottom of this. samsung agent, Piper confirmed, newest 8013s are being shipped with 4.1. she cant say "when" but the rollout IS scheduled. it might be monday, but she said she had heard agents say the same thing about manufacturing quarters are different that market quarters.... but what would make more sense is that asian market quarters are on the chinese lunar calendar. but thats no excuse to give yourself another two months. also, samsung said by the end of the year on their own facebook page, not the end of q4. their new year? our new year?

anyway, Piper got me to break out the screenshot and read off the build number, it didnt come up in the US customer service database. she hadnt even heard of the 8005 or 8010 models. then i noticed KST next to the timestamp.she looked it up for me. korean standard time. and a US build number should end in XAR.

refer to screenshot.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rawrd:
What does this mean then? Aren't all of the tablets manufactured, and therefore kernels built, in Korea? I don't understand what you're trying to say. My tablet uses KST as well.

Why the hell would I photoshop this? It gains me nothing. I just wanted to do you guys a service by letting you know that the update is probably right around the corner. What do you want, a photograph of the thing with untouched EXIF data?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apristel:
Thanks for the information. I have no doubt you are legit and appreciate you posting.

Some people just can't believe anything because they don't have it. It's all good and I can't wait for the update myself.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
Mine says KST as well and build number ends in LI3
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Bmerz:
Well this is interesting! Now I am curious as to which I will receive from Amazon. I ordered mine Christmas eve, and it shipped yesterday from Hebron KY (if that makes a difference). I'll post back here as soon as I get mine, with the version it comes with (fingers, toes, legs, eyes, and arms all crossed for JB on board!) :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
im not calling you a liar or a fraud. and some people get their kicks with hoaxes. take it easy, i didnt mean any offense, just trying to figure it out. and youre right, theyre likely to rollout soon if theyre releasing new lots with JB....okay, so the timestamp says korean on mine too... hey, im groping for answers and thought maybe it was system time. or csc or something. hadnt noticed it till now, duh...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Never_Again:
Everyone needs to really calm down about this. Update will be out very, very soon, and the changes in JB are hardly noticeable besides what seems to be a boost in battery life.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
cool. at this point, i want JB just cuz its on my phone, and i keep looking for things on my tablet as if it were my phone... theyre near totally synced anyway... its just an annoyance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Samsung reps really aren't given any accurate info by the company. I have a GT-8013 and my build number ends jn LI3 and the smp preempt refers to KST (I suspect all builds do since this is a Korean company). I have even less confidence that anyone at Samsung customer service has any knowledge of any product info, including updates.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
JB build number. call yourself. yore likely right though, noone knows but the wizard behind the curtain.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sbreen94:
Everyone should try out Redemption Rom Jelly Bean 4.1.2 which works pretty flawlessy on my N8013 and has so many new nice features!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fmf.post:
Link Please!

Could you please post a link or any other info about this rom.

And also, what makes it special?

Just wondering... as I'm tired of waiting and I'm thinking about just root and loading a custom rom.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rawrd:
If the build number doesn't exist I guess my brother's in trouble if he ever wants to redeem his warranty huh? :rolleyes:

At any rate, I am looking forward to the rollout, and I hope it is before the new year, for my sake and everyone else's. I know you all have been looking forward to it with bated breath, and for good reason.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apristel:
you should work on getting a image off his tablet!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
+1

There are plenty of how 2s about getting it done

http://www.ehow.com/how_12211911_system-dump-android.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Bulbous:
The German 4.1.2 ROM is for the n8000 not N8010/8013. You cannot get it mainly because of this reason.

The tool that does this is the one mentioned in this thread - It works. However it is unlikely to achieve anything apart from the factory reset. As mentioned above 4.1.1 IS the latest ROM for your model

I am certainly no expert, but I do read the posts on here and make my decisions based on that information. As I write this I am waiting also for the JB updates for my 2 Notes. I have a N8000 and my daughter has a N8010. We are in the United Arab Emirates and nothing has been released for us either.

I read Barry_GHG's tutorial and got sick of waiting.

Grabbed the German ROMs and flashed them - both worked perfectly. I am now in what is effectively an unsupported configuration and cannot receive OTA updates.

Having said that, I don't need OTA updates because I already have them installed and just need to wait until the Official ROM gets released for the UAE. Then I will download it, and assuming that something better doesn't exist elsewhere I will carry out the same steps as in Barry's tutorial to burn my devices back to official.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
im just relaying what the agent said on the phone dude. not trying to spout it as fact.