yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Rezound] wiredwrx:
"Bars" are not an accurate enough way to ascertain the true signal strength. As has been mentioned, CM is overly pessimistic (perhaps it is more accurate, perhaps it is not) about signal strength notifications (eg. "Bars") Unless you are not able to connect/make calls, forget what the Bars say.

To explain it, assuming signal strength is measured between 0 and 99, with 0 being no signal, and 99 being the highest possible, your old ROM probably reported the 5 bars as 0=no bars. 1-9 at 1 bar, 10-29 as 2 bars, 30-69 as 3 bars, and 70-89 as 4 bars, and 90-99 as 5 bars. CM (and this ROM) reports it as 0=no bars, 1-19 as 1 bar, 20-39 as 2 bars, 40-59 as 3 bars, 60-79 as 4 bars, and 80-99 as 5 bars. Now, if you line them up, you will see that, for example, if you normally hover around 69, but when you enter the office, it drops to 39 when you enter work, your old ROM would still show 3 bars, but with CM, you will drop from 4 bars to 2 bars. Now, what I have just illustrated is not completely accurate, and it is just an illustration.

Suffice it to say, disregard the bars. It means nothing.
[HTC Rezound] hpower1:
I hate to say i disagree, but it's a problem for me. I don't notice much dropping from 4 to 3 bars. Never did a speed test or anything.

But when I go inside most buildings, I drop to 2 or 1 bar, and my data connection can barely be used. I tried to look something up the other day at the table in the restaurant. I had to stand up and walk 10 feet toward the door. And we were sitting by an outside wall.

Any other thoughts? Thanks for the input.
[HTC Rezound] Evocm7:
I don't believe this ROM us any reception issues as I have never had any but I could really care less how many bars it shows. Mine usually shows either 4-5 bars outside and 1-2 inside (even though it's really not a weak signal, just how cm is) what radios are you on?
[HTC Rezound] hpower1:
the newest as far as I know. 2.23.10.0123r , 2.23.10.0124r

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I agree, I really don't care what the bars show, but all I know is if I enter a building, and go anywhere hear inside, I can barely use my data. It's strange.
[HTC Rezound] wiredwrx:
Sounds like some other issue. Are you on an extended battery? Remove your back cover, and make sure all the connections and metal looks normal, and not overly bent. You can clean all the contact with a pencil eraser to assure proper conductivity. I have seen reports of losing LTE/connectivity with back cover issues.
[HTC Rezound] hpower1:
True. I am on normal battery but have the extended one. I'll try that too, and clean things up and see what happens.

Thanks.
[HTC Rezound] Evocm7:
Those are the latest radios indeed. Does it only happen with this rom?
[HTC Rezound] hpower1:
only other rom I have tried was rage. I was going to run a few others tonight to test. I tried my backup of rage 1.9.4 and also a clean flash of rage 1.9.6. Both rage roms worked fine.

I ran infection for several days too, just to confirm. That is why I come for help. I liked rage a lot, still do, but man infection is awesome. Noticeable increase in battery life.
[HTC Rezound] jsmuli2:
Huge battery drain going on. Love the Rom though so I ain't changing! You can't make me!
[HTC Rezound] Tired of the Bull:
I had one incident similar to that...I freaked and did a battery pull but it hasn't happened again.
[HTC Rezound] kopower:
I came from Rage rom, and I've noticed similar signal issues. I posted a few pages back about having little to no signal when I went up to an area in my state that had sketchy reception. I don't seem to have the same exact problem as you, when you enter buildings. I guess I'll have to keep an eye on it.

It took a lot of convincing to get me to leave Rage, but I'm glad I did. The battery life on Infection is outstanding. My bluetooth connects better, and phone feels faster.
[HTC Rezound] hpower1:
So tried a few things. Clean flash of rage 1.9.6 all good. Clean flash of infection 2.5, and PAC man rom. Tried with normal and with extended battery and cover. All same. Drop in signal sitting in same spot in my house. Rage is only rom that will give me full data coverage and speed. Strange.
[HTC Rezound] Evocm7:
That is weird. I don't know what to tell you then except maybe redownload the ROM again
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
I installed this rom today, got it all set up, backed it up, flashed the latest Funkybean, it wouldn't go past the boot animation. So I wiped it and restored it, still stuck on the boot animation.. Any suggestions?
[HTC Rezound] Evocm7:
That happened to me too. For some reason, 2.5 doesn't like being restored. I couldn't get it to work either. Even after wiping data, it would boot but would run like a Pentium 2 from the 90s trying to run windows 7 :confused: reinstall fixed it.
[HTC Rezound] lancasterv3:
yea i have run into this several times, try pushing boot image via adb if that doesn't work wipe everything multiple times and attempt to restore your backup after the wipe. if any of these don't work unfortunately you will have to reflash the rom.

Sent from my Rezound using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
I'll give it a try later, I ended up restoring my old one for now.
[HTC Rezound] hpower1:
Yeah, it's been frustrating. I did that, 3 times actually.

You think flashing back to the stock rom for a bit would help?
[HTC Rezound] MikeX10A:
It must be a 10.1 thing. It's a darn shame because it's so much better. But my battery is getting toasted and having no coverage isn't an option. I have to go back to 9 until 10.1 is fixed... maybe. Ack, I don't know what I should do. I wish there was a fix for this signal problem.
[HTC Rezound] troy7548:
Do I need the newest Global OTA to run this rom or is it recomended?
[HTC Rezound] gleggie:
You don't need it, but if you have some extra time, its probably good just to update. I was running pretty much all AOSP roms fine on the old radios, but i had some extra time so I just updated just in case.
[HTC Rezound] Dark Jedi:
I have made a backup recovery of 2.5 and had no problems in restoring it. Everything worked fine. Only issues I have was the ones I had in the first place.
[HTC Rezound] jrat69:
I'm still on 2.4, does 2.5 fix connection problems? When I am at home I have fair 3G, no 4G. I can not do anything on 3G that requires a data connection, I get the message NO INTERNET CONNECTION. We have slow internet, and none if I move outside. If 2.5 dosen't fix this problem what will. I was on Business Sense, and it worked fine. Will another JB Rom work if Infection Won't?
[HTC Rezound] abby_nitewolf:
I thought it was just my phone with data problems. Ok so I'm not the only one now. But i wonder if it has something to do with the latest radio.
[HTC Rezound] nimbice:
The only thing a Rom should influence with regards to connectivity is connection strength reporting. Sense tends to exaggerate how good your signal is. Aosp tend to favor honest reporting which leads often to the misunderstanding that aosp gets poor reception.

Edit: Some sense Roms even report 4g when on a 3g network so as to prevent you from knowing you had moved to an inferior network. They typically do this to discourage complaint calls about weak signal and poor 4g coverage.

I would doubt your connectivity issue is Rom related but it is not entirely impossible. I would look back through this thread for the instructions on updating your radios. S-on and S-off instructions were both posted in the last couple weeks. Check through them to see if your radio is out of date and how to update if they are.

You might also check your data roaming settings as I've had some towers buck me until I turn roaming on. I have unlimited data and have never been charged extra for data roaming. Can't speak for anyone else's data plans though.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Neo, do you know if this uses the updated/newer RIL?

Can someone tell me what their RIL is set to in the build.prop?

If a brave user wants to try this. Take the word vigor out of that line. Reboot and check RIl if anything changed.
[HTC Rezound] mikeyman67:
Can someone tell me how to remove Google talk? I want to install hangouts, but it won't install due to the old app having a bad signature.

I'd it just a matter of deleting talk.apk from /system/app, is is there more?
[HTC Rezound] darienms1986:
I use rom toolbox to delete but just deleting from system will work as well.

super secret ion rom
[HTC Rezound] djkeller3:
I get that error code from time to time, and I've always been able to install successfully on the next download attempt. In fact, the same thing happened to me with the new hangouts, and all I did to fix it was just simply download the app again from Google play and it installed.
[HTC Rezound] mikeyman67:
Hangouts is now saying incompatible update with infection 2.5.
[HTC Rezound] djkeller3:
Interesting. Infection 2.5 was not stable on my Rez, so I nandroided back to Infection 2.3, which had been near perfection. I had that error code just like you, but 2.3 allowed the install on the next download attempt. I don't know what the difference would be, unless maybe there are some system changes in 2.5 that are not compatible somehow.

Just for kicks, you could make a backup of 2.5 and then clean flash 2.3 and see if that clears you. Hope that helps!
[HTC Rezound] aznjosh:
I used titanium back up to uninstall talk then installed hang out from play. Works perfectly
[HTC Rezound] sandman_nyc_316:
Have you tried video chat?
[HTC Rezound] sn2hotty:
Weird. Just tested it with a video chat when I saw your post. Works perfectly on my Rez with Infection 2.5.

Sent from my Infected Rezound
[HTC Rezound] mikeyman67:
I got it going. Uninstalled talk, but had to restore from tibu, then the upgrade went in fine. Weird. Woking now.
[HTC Rezound] thelunchboxosu:
Guys, people could not hear me in video chat on hangout, anyone else confirm this?
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
I believe that's a known issue, mic doesn't work, there's a thread in the general or q&a section on it.
[HTC Rezound] abby_nitewolf:
Well i hit my first freaking bootloop. All i did was shut the phone down, swap battery, and powered on. -_-

I restored nandroid and didn't fix anything.

I wipe cache, dalvik and fixed permissions and still bootlooped. I tried dirty flashing the rom again and still had a bootloop. So i just had to wipe everything, reflash, and now i have to restore everything once again :/
[HTC Rezound] lepa71:
I have the same.
[HTC Rezound] MikeX10A:
I had Infection 2.5 and just put on Rage which is ICS. I get much better service and I'm not going by the bars, the numbers reported are lower. In addition, the battery life is vastly superior on Rage. I'll stick with Rage until these bugs are worked out. I really like Jellybean but a phone with horrid battery life isn't really a good option for me.
[HTC Rezound] nimbice:
I've had this happen a few times. Phone starts running slow, reboot, endless boot loop. Had to full wipe and flash again to get it back. No idea what's causing it. Back on 2.4 for the moment.

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I've heard all JB Roms take a pretty big battery hit over ICS. The signal thing however is news to me.

Any chance there is radio signal boosting parameters that a Rom or kernel can tweak? I can do that with my Wi-Fi router but I've never heard of it being done on a phone?
[HTC Rezound] 3L3C7R0:
Has happened to me 3 times just from rebooting manually.
[HTC Rezound] lancasterv3:
welcome to the club lol, did you wipe anything prior to reboot? i have had this happen several times i am trying to figure it out without any positive results. the only thing i can say is save your reboots for special occasions and get quick reboot just for the shell. even with a good backup it runs choppy upon restore and in my case every reboot after a restore results in the bootloop from hell.

Sent from my Rezound using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Rezound] abby_nitewolf:
Yeah i tried everything to try and get it to boot. And I put my phone through heavy usage so i carry extra batteries that i swap through the day. Never had this problem on 2.4. I might have to switch back since i need my phone a lot for work.
[HTC Rezound] jrat69:
Are you on the newest radio's. I'm not, still on very old ones.
[HTC Rezound] ChuckZv2:
With all these boot looping issues.

I had the same issue at one point. And I think i know what the source is using apps like sd maid and clean master sometimes, when you optimize your database with these kinds of apps I think somehow it rewrites something that carries the rom to crash.
[HTC Rezound] djkeller3:
Personally, I've seen no reason at all to update my radios. Seems that those who have, have experienced little or no improvement, so unless there's some groundbreaking and overwhelming reason in the future, I'll just keep what I have now. Sometimes, as with the Thunderbolt, new radios can make things worse, and I'm not experiencing any problems and don't want any :p.

That said, 4G has always been wonky with HTC products for me. Never worked right even with the stock ROM. It works for a short period of time then slows to a crawl and then no data transfer even though it says 4G. Like with my Thunderbolt, I'm forced to use 3G all the time if I want data and is a major reason I will be ditching HTC on my next upgrade.
[HTC Rezound] Dark Jedi:
Have you used any other company 4g phones or has all of them been HTC? I know not all 4g coverage areas is all that great. Take NYC I can't count how many people posted how bad it was. So might not be the HTC phones but your coverage area that's the issue.
[HTC Rezound] Evocm7:
I always thought it was an issue with Verizons network when 4g would be unresponsive at times but it was actually my rez. I got my s4 yesterday and have yet to experience any lag or slow connections. Tapatalk was especially slow sometimes having to refresh the page several times to get it to load but it was the rez itself.
[HTC Rezound] Dark Jedi:
My Rez operates fine on 4g. Never had an issue. So who knows the real culprit is.
[HTC Rezound] djkeller3:
I wish that were the case for me, but sadly, it's HTC. My wife's GNEX completely blows my Rez away with 4G speed. Longevity too, as LTE speed is always at her beckon call no matter what she's been doing, hotspot, streaming, whatever. Stock ROM and radios or the latest RUU - doesn't matter - my Rez is a creeper data-wise. A Note 3 will take its place the day it comes out.
[HTC Rezound] Dark Jedi:
Sorry to hear as my rez blows away the gnex data speeds at the Verizon stores. I can get 30mps where as their gnex gets lucky 8 to ten.. If the note 3 is as good note 2 you will be happy. I know my wife's droid 4 constantly looses 4g signal. She hates my phone.
[HTC Rezound] djkeller3:
I hate your phone too...:p lmao!

I am jealous though. I'd keep my Rez a bit longer but being burned twice with poor data is enough for me, otherwise I love HTC. The toughest part is that I adore Neo's ROMs. I really hope he will do some Note 3 developing. :rolleyes:
[HTC Rezound] replica9000:
I bought the Nexus when it came out, and quickly traded it for my Rezound. The Rezound gets better reception, better battery life, better GPS lock. I've hit 4G speeds faster than my home Internet.
[HTC Rezound] Dark Jedi:
Nice thing is every phone has at least one dev who's work stands out. I think neo got a one something or another. I think he is strictly HTC but who knows what the future holds. I would love a neo ROM for my n7.
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
It must be your area because I haven't had anything but great mobile data. I can tell you that I've had some major issues with Samsung radios so be careful with them.

Sent from my s-off Rezound
[HTC Rezound] usefulidiot127:
Unfortunately I need to go back to 2.4 as well. After getting the ROM up and running I pretty much can't let myself turn the phone off/restart ever or it gets stuck in a boot loop on the animation screen and I'm forced to reflash.
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
I had the same issue.
[HTC Rezound] mpguzman04:
I don't know why some have so much trouble with this ROM. I've been on 2.5 for about a week now with no issue. I cleaned house prior to flashing the ROM. Here were my steps I took, hope this helps those who are having issues.

I have been reading up on the progress of TWRP as well as CWM recovery as opposed to Amon Ra 3.16. I have been strictly on Amon Ra up til a week ago. Decided to give TWRP a go (needed to flash something while I await the next Tron release).

Prior to beginning, I am on the latest radios (2.23.10.0123r, 2.23.10.0124r) and hboot (2.28).

1. Nandroid backup.

2. Transfer all files, folders, videos, pictures, etc. that you want saved from internal & external storage. (Make sure to include your nandroid backup folder).

3. Flash TWRP v2.5.0.0 (thank you [MENTION=3082717]Flyhalf205[/MENTION]) Amazing touch recovery with so many options, file manager, battery %, etc. etc. and no more issues of any kind with the Rezound.

4. In TWRP, I wiped my entire internal storage (Got tired of all the old folders and files that cluttered up my internal storage). During the internal wipe, I also wiped Dalvik Cache, Cache, Data & System. Note: Showed 2 "Internal SDcard" as well as Micro SDcard. Chose the top one and after the wipe it then correctly showed as emmc. As far as I can tell, the other internal does nothing, although I wiped that too for safe measure.

5. Using TWRP's built in file manager, I transfered my Development folder (where all the ROMs, kernels, etc. I download are stored) to the internal SD.

6. Wiped external storage (Micro SDcard).

7. Transfered Development folder back to external storage.

8. Wiped Dalvik Cache, Cache, Data, System, & emmc 4 more times for safe measure. IMPORTANT: DO NOT include Micro SDcard in this process.

9. Install Infection 2.5 (Thank you [MENTION=4203241]IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo[/MENTION]). After install there is an option to "Wipe Dalvik/Cache". I did that about 4-5 times.

10. Reboot phone, go through setup process. DO NOT use any program or application to restore settings or apps. (I know it's a pain, but it's a lot less annoying then a bootloop). Install all apps manually, as well as system settings. The only settings I did restore from a backup was ES file manager and Apex launcher settings.

Optional: Reboot to recovery. Flash custom kernel. I installed FunkyBean 3.3.4 at the time (I have since upgraded to 3.3.6 - Thanks [MENTION=3419683]Snuzzo[/MENTION]). Wipe Dalvik/Cache 3-5 times.

Reboot, set kernel settings in whichever tuner app you desire. I use the latest version of Kernel Tuner without any problem whatsoever.

I was going to post this a few days ago but I really wanted time for the ROM to settle in, flash kernel upgrades, reboot phone a number of times, adjust Kernel Tuner settings, etc. Really throw everything at it that usually causes problems and I have yet to encounter one problem anyone has run across on 2.5. I am undervolted by 50mV running both CPUs at min 384. Max on cpu0 is 1512 while cpu1 is 1620.
[HTC Rezound] replica9000:
I prefer to use any app's built in backup/restore settings if possible.
[HTC Rezound] usefulidiot127:
[MENTION=4602606]mpguzman04[/MENTION] Thanks for the detailed writeup. I think I'll follow your method exactly and see how it works out. I always seem to have slightly more problems than most with these ROMs. Either I'm not diligent enough with my ROM flashing processes or my phone is just picky...
[HTC Rezound] Dark Jedi:
I noticed when I had the bolt some people had no issues while others did. Its just not all devices are built exactly the same and handles stuff differently. I know I couldn't clock my phone over 1.5 before it would lock up and reboot while other people could over clock their bolts to 1.92 and have no issues. I am sure this is the same with all devices when it comes to ROMs and kernels. So I am not surprised that some people are having issues while others dont .
[HTC Rezound] jtio21:
2 questions about the native tether, and they are since I am still on the unlimited plan can I tether with it without them being able to throttle me and or make me pay for, also does it work with ps3 or Xbox?
[HTC Rezound] sn2hotty:
Same here. And I work in Manhattan, and live on Long Island. Aside from a data outage a few weeks ago (4g, 3g, and 1x), 4g is fine.
[HTC Rezound] mpguzman04:
Also on the latest radios (2.23.10.0123r, 2.23.10.0124r) and hboot (2.28).
[HTC Rezound] sn2hotty:
Here's the 4g speed at my house in Nassau County. Not the best, but not TOO bad. Up the road a bit I've tested & easily gone over 20 Mbps.

Sent from my Infected Rezound
[HTC Rezound] zekemo:
I've found my first bug in the ROM. When I use voice search for dingleberry it will no longer read the definition out loud.
[HTC Rezound] joeymagnus1:
I just got an extra battery for my rezzy from my brother in law. The cool part is that it came packaged in a rezound. And an otter box.

:D:D:D
[HTC Rezound] gleggie:
[MENTION=4602606]mpguzman04[/MENTION] Great steps, I restore apps using MyBackUp Root with no problems, and I also use http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1562176 to cleanwipe 10 times :)
[HTC Rezound] joeymagnus1:
Same here. On both.
[HTC Rezound] mpguzman04:
Ah yes, I forgot to include Cleanwipe 2.0 in the steps. I have been using that from day one, from the original Cleanwpe version. Awesome tool and even better now that its been updated.
[HTC Rezound] lancasterv3:
your wipe process is good i have done the same thing which has shielded me from ui crashes/random reboots, that being said how often do you reboot your rez? i only ask because my only issue is the random manual reboot which leads to the bootloop from hell.

Sent from my Rezound using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Rezound] gleggie:
Is there a way for me to revert to the simple "android" boot animation found in previous Infection dev editions?
[HTC Rezound] SteveG12543:
Copy the bootanimation.zip file located within the old ROMs .zip file (found in /system/media), paste it to /system/media using a root explorer, reboot and you're set.
[HTC Rezound] gleggie:
Thanks! (i'll give u a thanks point once my 8-per day expires lol :D)
[HTC Rezound] mpguzman04:
I reboot about once a day, some days a couple times.
[HTC Rezound] lancasterv3:
hmmm thats interesting i have done the same wipe and install process including TWRP and have not messed with voltages upon boot any ways but i am still getting these terrible boot loops and i still cant figure out why stability seems to last a week in my case. So you have been rebooting consistently for about a week with one to two reboots a day? i am glad your rez isn't affected by this, back to square one for me.

Sent from my Rezound using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Rezound] mpguzman04:
That's strange, I'll post an update if I end up getting stuck in a bootloop but it has been smooth sailing thus far. Did you also wipe internal and external SD card?
[HTC Rezound] lancasterv3:
yep and didn't apply any themes either i am at a loss because the bootloop comes out of nowhere.

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[HTC Rezound] mikeyman67:
I am also getting all kinds of lag with Google voice search. Nearly unusable.
[HTC Rezound] sn2hotty:
I'm getting that too, but I don't think it is ROM related. I'm also getting massive lag with Google Now (voice search) on my N7. I mentioned that to a fellow geek friend of mine and he explained what may be happening but I forgot what he said lol, but I believe it is a Google issue. I will try to contact my friend & ask him again.
[HTC Rezound] usefulidiot127:
Well I literally followed every single one of your steps, including getting my radios/hboot updated, recovery updated, and an identical flashing process. I switched to FunkyBean as well. I've already gotten one random reboot within a few hours but at least it didn't get stuck in a bootloop...yet. I bumped the minimum cpu frequency up to 384 instead of the default 192.

Anyone have any other kernel tweaks I could think about to increase stability? Maybe my hardware is just more finicky and can't handle some of the default custom kernel/roms settings?