[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TheWerewolf:
Yes, I know this - but there's a tendency on this forum to forget to mention when something is N8000 or N8010 (why even bother mentioning the N8013 since nothing been released for it...) and this causes confusion.

I've downloaded the tool in question - well, actually, I've seen two tools mentioned - one from Play and one from XDA. The Play one is for the SIII not the Note 10. The one from XDA required rooting, I believe - and I'm trying to avoid rooting.

No, it isn't "the latest ROM for my model". This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. If it was the latest ROM for *my* model, I wouldn't get a message on my Note saying it's been modified and so isn't entitled to updates. It's the ROM for a *German* 8010. My model is an American 8013. Before you say it - yes, it seems like everything works so far, although there are reports of specific issues, but it's not the latest ROM for MY model.

As for changing the CSC not having any effect - again, that's in direct contradiction to what I've read elsewhere. From what others have written, if you change the CSC to DBT to match the ROM, everything matches up again and you get OTA updates... Now, the actual OTA is for the N8000, something not made clear in most of the posts, so yes, in won't have an immediate effect, but it may have one in the near future.

Speaking of reading... I did exactly the same thing, and I said so in my post. I also decided it was worth taking the gamble and it was almost entirely based on Barry_GHG's tutorial - which you'll note, I compliment highly for its completeness and conciseness. Except for one thing... see, there's an *assumption* that when the time comes you'll flash back to the original 8013 ROM and then allow your system to OTA to 4.1.1 (and possibly 4.1.2 afterwards). The only problem is.. there are NO 8013 ROMs around afaik...

In truth, I'd probably rather have the DBT 8010 model anyway (or the Canadian 8010 if a ROM image for that ever shows), so I decided it was worth the risk.

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I think you've missed the point of my post - perhaps I didn't state it clearly enough - I'm not complaining - I'm offering some constructive criticism on ways to make the way information is presented here a little easier on the rest of the people who ARE coming here and ARE asking questions to which you ARE giving answers.

For the record, I'm an *actual* developer, not a play one. I do this for a living - I've been doing it for over three decades. Which is why, oddly, I don't really want to spend my time trying to figure out how to do a process when it *could* easily be better documented and made easier. This is *exactly* why I commend Barry_GHG because he did it *RIGHT*. Good developers make it easy for others. Good developers care about their customers or clients as much as they do about themselves and their ego. They care about documentation. Good developers feel good when others like their works and feel it's improved their lives... and good programmers are ALWAYS looking for ways to be better. Good programmers don't say 'Hey - my stuff is great!' they say 'Hey - how can this be improved?' and then they listen.

But hey - I know the mindset and yes, this is probably a pointless exercise. The sad thing is, if you followed my suggestions - you'd get less churn and repeated questions and people complaining. Hey - your choice. If you want to complain about people complaining - you've already stopped listening.