yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Never_Again:
I'm the one with the tablet, here's some screenshots for skeptics.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TX-Brad:
One Samsung tech support chat guy told me I have to do a factory reset to get it to load and another Samsung tech support chat guy tells me that no Samsung tablets have 4.1.

I'm so confused!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GETCASHMONEY:
So do the rest of us just wait for Sam mobile to upload the firmware?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Never_Again:
I'd figure that if they've started pre-loading JB, it won't be long before they start rolling out the updates.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Beards:
Never believe anyone from a Support Service.

I called up a UK Tech Support to ask a question about my 32GB Wifi only N8010, to which the reply was "you are mistaken, there are NO 32GB models available for the UK market".

When I then gave all the details including serial number he simply ignored it, it never existed as far as he was concerned.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rawrd:
I guess so. It seems weird to me that they would install it on new devices before mass-releasing it... But maybe this way they officially meet their Q4 deadline without taking the plunge and releasing it to their entire userbase. This is complete speculation, obviously.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
So who is going to go through the pain of a factory reset to see if it works? Any volunteers ?

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The next question would be who can walk him through getting the official JB copy from his device that we can all flash?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] johng75:
Exactly my next question!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Lucky guy. I got my note a couple of weeks ago with an ICS kernel from Sept. I suspect many units still shipping are like mine and have ICS not JB.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
I picked mine up yesterday from best buy and it didnt come with JB.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
are you gonna gloat, or upload the image somewhere?

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i did, no go. even reset google services framework, looked on kies, there's no update. obviously there's no reason to doubt this, but geez how bogus is that??? ship it with new devices.... AFTER christmas.... does samsung EVEN understan american consumers..... JB before christmas sells more tablets in US markets...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] thachosenone:
You probably got old stock from the pre-holiday/holiday season.

At least we know that Sammy has actually built in jb for the n8013. I have it's just a matter of time until they release it either ota or with Kies.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Well I''ve got a couple of weeks yet to return my unit. I might just do that if the JB update isn't't released by mid-week and just wait to reorder until all shipping units have JB.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apristel:
If you have to root, it's so simple takes about 30 seconds...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
Or about 3 seconds. On device. No computer needed, to root anyways.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Bon Jour
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
Yes, on the internet. Where I met my girlfriend, she's a French model
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] pre4speed:
Haha
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
Im not sure =( but I think you could do a clockworkmod backup if you install a custom kernel through odin. That's better than nothing.

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Oh true lol
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Has anyone dump it yet?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] thachosenone:
Yeah just a few minutes ago. Stunk up the bathroom.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Did you wipe it twice and make it nice. I did a nasty dump at work it was like pushing play-doh and it took forever and when i was done my legs were numb LOL!!!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] thachosenone:
Lol!

But seriously, I just hope that the update lands before I start school again.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] relldroid:
Lol by time a "dump" is uploaded, we'll have an ota....

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
I wouldn't worry. But be careful with too many returns. I've heard of Amazon blocking accounts where people kept returning high dollar electronics.

Would be nice if a del could get a hold of JB...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
Almost a week later and still no one has uploaded an image yet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
Anxiously awaiting the new unit, it's on the truck.... hoping it has JB and if it does I'll be rooting then backing up first thing and posting the source. I won't be hosting however, I'll need a dev type to volunteer to take the source and make it a user friendly package :)

Assuming we can acquire the source are there any dev types willing to step up and receive the package and turn it into something more normally distributable?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Yea because its all Bologna

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
I think he' s referring to my comments and getting confused. I've said and believe that Samsung may hold off updates in the US until Judge Koh issues her decision about the record jury verdict issued last year--this is the last part of her opinion and then the case will be appealed by both parties. There is a second federal case in Northern California that won't go to trial until 2014. In that case, Apple alleges that Jellybean and most of the Galaxy product lines violate several of its patents. Apple has to pursue appeals of recent US Patent Office decisions that held its pinch-to-zoom and rubberbanding patents are invalid as well as a Delaware jury' decision that invalidated 3 other Apple patents.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
People are making way too big a deal about the patent joisting between Apple and Samsung and the impact it has on day-to-day operations. Both companies have more than ample resources to pursue, defend, and appeal any litigation that's pending. The same goes for posting bonds and indemnities if required. As far as I know, none of Samsung's newer devices are impacted by any of the cases they've lost. Short of a stop-sale it's business as usual. The most serious case, the one involving the ITC, has months to go before any type of final ruling that requires action on Samsung's part takes place including a full-review by the entire ITC committee and POTUS' signature. Even then the ruling judge concluded s/w modification (of devices not even currently being sold) would be a sufficient remedy. In the meantime there's zero logic in anyone facing litigation to not continue as-is not knowing what the outcome will be and limiting sales on a self-inflicted basis. To an extent, Samsung changing their behavior based on pending litigation could be seen as an admission of guilt which has the opposite effect of what some folks are concluding is the reason for update delays. And there’s not a single feature in the Note’s 4.1.2 ROM that’s not being updated as we speak on both the SGS3 and N2 both in the U.S. and abroad. Samsung's not going to roll over and play dead based on things with an indeterminate outcome; especially with more cash in the bank then many major countries.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
If this was the case then they wouldn't have updated the GNote 2. If anything JB would be a remedy to these issues not a furtherance of them.

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On another note (see what I did there with the use of the word note huh? ;) ) I received my "new" 10.1 from Amazon today. Well sealed but still sporting ICS.

I don't think this proves anything other than that if they ARE shipping JB now it simply hasn't trickled throughout the supply chain. But they need to get the update out asap or have some very unhappy customers.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] alias747:
Not sure if anyone noticed, but Samsung's site has been changed so that there is no mention of JB on the Note 10.1 page...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] bert269:
I guess that means.....

We'll have to stick with LL3 of EU then.......until they (if) ever get 4.1.2 in the US

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] chamberc:
I've been doing some research on this for the past few days, and can confirm that no 10.1 notes 8013's are shipping with JB of any kind in the US.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] pre4speed:
Proof?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Mobile phones in the US are affiliated with specific carriers that provide deep pockets to indemnify Samsung should an authorized update be deemed to violate intellectual property rights of other parties. With the 8013, Samsung has no partners to help shoulder damages should Apple and others successfully argue that hardware and software violate non-Samsung patents (Google may assist Samsung with respect to the Apple's allegation in the second patent case that will go to trial next year). At a minimum, Samsung will have to further hamstring Android devices to render portions of hardware/software that is deemed to be infringing in the case before Judge Koh. However, should the Judge agree with Apple that the jury's verdict should be increased, Samsung might decide to forego updating the 8013 all together. It's not a huge seller like the Note 2 phone. Samsung has now removed references to JB in the 8013 description on the US website. This has some significance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
So you’re saying that two unrelated XDA members that received them under totally different circumstances are lying? With yesterday’s push of updates it seems Samsung's picking up steam so new-build Note's (including in the U.S.) being shipped with it doesn't sound far fetched.

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You've got that backwards. It's Samsung (and other OEM’s) that indemnifies their resellers which is what the carriers are. I've seen the contracts. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] COA4178:
Lol the proof is that everywhere else JB has landed and us has stayed with nothing lol this thread is getting me mad............... :eek:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] chamberc:
You may accept it or not. If you can't without proof which I can not disclose, there is no harm.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] crystalstylez:
this guy used to always say crazy stuff on the prime forum. I wouldn't really believe him. (Like best buy giving him two tvs when he returned his prime.:rolleyes:) Look up his post from the past. I would take what he said with a grain of salt.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] z31k:
Dump or it didn't happen..... :highfive:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's a U.S. vs. UK screen shot. You'll notice the kernel's are built a day apart and the sequencing pretty much lines up with that. You'll also notice they are both on 4.1.1. If I was going to try and get my fifteen minutes of fame by scamming a forum I'd have mocked up a 4.1.2 ROM since, at least for the N8000, that seems to be what Samsung's pushing out. Call me idealistic, but neither of the two posters of N8013 JB screenshots strike me as scammers. But then again, I've been duped before. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
First point, only one person claims to have received a unit shipped with JB. I received a unit shipped around the same time from the same Amazon warehouse and others have received units shipped later by a

Amazon and so far, none of us have gotten units with JB.

Since US carriers demand specific modifications to devices for their networks I would expect Samsung includes an indemnification clause. The carriers certainly include indemnification clauses in contracts with their end users.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
There are two. One got theirs from Amazon and one at BB B&M. They both posted screen shots.

These aren't grapefruit that need to be sold in the order that they were received because their perishable. If there are Note's on the shelf newly arrived units are just thrown in with the rest. So it's luck of the draw whether a newer or older unit gets sent to a customer or store. Both BB and Amazon ship from multiple warehouses so that could impact freshness of stock

Here's a list of Amazon's

USA

Phoenix, AZ

Goodyear, AZ

San Bernardino, CA (opened October 2012)

Chester, VA

Dinwiddie, VA (near Richmond)

Murfreesboro, TN

Middletown, DE (Coming around September 2012)

New Castle, DE

Whitestown, IN

Plainfield, IN

Coffeyville, KS

Campbellsville, KY

Hebron. KY (near Cincinnati)

Lexington, KY

Louisville, KY

Jeffersonville, IN

Fernley, NV

North Las Vegas, NV

Nashua, NH

Carlisle, PA

Hazleton, PA

Breinigsville, PA

Lewisberry, PA

Lexington, SC

Spartanburg, SC

Chattanooga, TN

Irving, TX (between Dallas and Fort Worth)

Sterling, VA

Bellevue, WA

Sumner, WA.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Castle5665:
My 8013 is looking more like my old HP touchpad. Ugh.

Wonder the fire sales begin lol!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] klau1:
Only thing Nexus 10 has for it is:

Pros:

Hi-Res Display

Faster Processor (bogged down by the Hi-Res)

Cons:

No microSD

No Dual Speakers (edit, it does)

No Active Digitizer

Over heats and throttles back (negating the max potential of the specs) (was a report from a user on XDA earlier)

Dimmer display

Half the internal memory for the same price $399 gets you 32GB on Note 10.1 but 16GB on Nexus 10
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
I''ve gone through this thread twice and don't see a second US based poster with a 8013 shipped with JB. Can you point out what page this post is on. I'm one of the several posters who also ordered from Amazon. My unit shipped at the time the OP's brother's unit did from the same Amazon warehouse. Mine and units received later by a number of other members who ordered from Amazon didn't ship with JB. It seems odd that only one unit in all of Amazon's warehouses have JB, especially since several of us received shipments at the same time or later from the same warehouse.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] LightningGA:
Post 133 and 138 reference the second one with JB.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Bulbous:
You want a dump then provide CLEAR and FOOLPROOF instructions as to how to create one

The guy just got a brand new tablet that he probably doesn't really understand and you want him to root it and rip it before he's even had a chance to find out how it works.

He certainly can't rely on the majority of posts (disinformation) here, where people can't even bother to search and just post the same chit day after day .

sorry in advance, if I've just pissed you off, but the signal to noise ratio on this forum is unbelievable. For every valuable post there are at least 20 questions, all posted by people who haven't bothered to read the thread.

Incidentally, I flashed my N8000 to German JB 4.1.2 via 4.1.1 with no issues simply by taking the time to read the useful posts here. Thanks Barry (among others)

4.1.1 was flashed via Odin. Rooted by CF autoroot. 4.1.2. was flashed with Mobile Odin which is a truly awesome product for rooted Androids.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Thanks, I looked over the thread several times and missed that. It's somewhat hopeful, but Samsung has changed their US page again and removed JB from the 8013's description. I wish they would be upfront with their customers world wide.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] elzeus:
Got my note today new from amazon, seals were unbroken but it's 4.0.4 :(. It's still pretty awesome though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
Where did you find a 32gb note for 399? The 16gb are going between 450 and 500

sent from my jelly bean infused note 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] klau1:
Bestbuy, Futureshop, just a couple days ago. Canada
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
It really is so easy to load any of the released versions of JB on the 8013 that I just don't know why everybody is so bent out of shape about this. I originally loaded the German 4.1.1 and just today loaded the German 4.1.2. It runs great and now have multi-view access to all my apps. And if and/or when 4.1.2 is released for the 8013, I'll just flash that one over what I have.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Arun01:
Crap I can't wait to get mine. I'm getting mine from best buy this month. If mine has jelly beam I'll post the dump.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] MIKE10.1:
Just got my 10.1 two days ago with ICS 4.0.4 :(

1st post FTW
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
OK so I should have gotten one from Canada instead of getting one from the US.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
I'm sure that changing it caused no end of hassles for support as people called asking why they didn't have JB :) US merchants probably complained as well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
I just looked at bestbuy in Canada and it says 450 for the 32gb which is still better than here. Why do we get screwed?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
Look. ICS or JB it doesn't matter. First off JB has removed features that were found to be infringing (rubberband scrolling anyone?) so if anything rolling out JB would be to their advantage, not disadvantage.

As for removing references I already stated the most likely causes, and it's not legal, it's supply chain and support. What do you think happened when customers received older stock that didn't have JB on it when the site stated it did? Take a few guesses. First they called the supplier. Then they called Samsung. Then they threatened to call the BBB. Pretty logical and obvious chain of events ensued.

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Brother, if you get a Jelly Beam with your Note let me know, I would LOVE to have something like that. Would be awesome fun for the kids :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
If you looked beyond the Note main page on the U.S. site all the individual Note's (16GB White/16GB Grey/32GB Grey) were never updated and still said 4.0. There was also no link to the Premium Suite jump page, references to any of the new features, nor were the updated user manuals posted in the support section. To me, it looks like someone jumped the gun by referencing JB at all and the removal was due to incorrect timing. Based on Q3 sales number the Note 10.1 has been Samsung's best-selling 10.1" tablet to date with a run rate of 1MM a month for August and September. Why would they either discontinue it or stop supporting it? Litigation hasn't changed their behavior before and they kept selling the GN even after they lost the case it was involved in but before the injunction was issued. After the injunction was stayed it was back up within 24 hours. Everyone keeps guessing Samsung's behavior due to ongoing litigation. It would be helpful if previous examples of said behavior were shared for clarification. Otherwise it’s just a wild ass guess as to why the U.S. update hasn’t officially been pushed out yet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Thread needs to be closed OP
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Why? Because you're pissed off two people trying to be helpful won't root their devices and do a system dump which they may not be comfortable with? The way people have asked for those with U.S. JB's help I'm not surprised the requests were ignored. The title of the thread "Jellybean Currently Shipping on New 8013s in the USA" is correct and two people have posted screen shots to support it. You and a couple of other skeptics called bull**** and have painted draconian reasons for the update’s delay which is your prerogative but it's no reason to close the thread.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
Why because they haven't dumped the rom from their personal machines for you? There's no obligation on anyone's part to do so and they shouldn't be pressured. While this thread may have it's share of ancillary commentary and discussions it's still fairly young and considering two people posted that they had it I'd think it's reasonable to keep it going for a while longer in case we can more completely validate and in the hopes the rom will get posted.

This is also the general forum, it's not distracting from any developer related discussions.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apristel:
I believe it is because this entire thread is off topic and is going nowhere productive.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
That's a different story. The vivid description of the more traditional "dump" was a bit course. And that's being kind. ;) Forum participants are like in-laws; you don't get to pick them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] MrTrunks:
Was going to ask the same thing :) Got white 16gb n8013 from Costco right before Christmas for 450. On top of that, it came with JB 4.1.1 pre-loaded! I wish...has ICS 4.0.4 like every other n8013.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] COA4178:
I Also share his opinion this is going to no where i mean while Sammy gets more mysterious about the JB; we get more delirious waiting for it. I think it should b closed since nothing is coming to the USA at the moment . :cool:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] klau1:
Well yours was White which is the more popular color so you got your money's worth.

The only color available at the 399 price was the Grey version, which I suspect the retailers had trouble moving stock, hence the price drop.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
dude, are you a lawyer or just copy and pasting. All the lawyers I've listened to on the matter say that it will not overall effect the devices currently being sold. Please feel free to write/twitter nilay patel if you don't agree.

32gb has been 499 everywhere I looked over the holidays (both online and instore) with the 16gb being 450. Never saw a white 32gb, do they even exist?

how about just not posting on a developer website if you are not willing to be walked through how to dump it. I'm sure these same posters are all about taking work from the devs on here to make their electronics better. Would be nice to take the hour and give something back.

Hell, a dev could even remote into your pc with it connected and do it for you...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Exactly team view it why even brag you have JB and not helping community I call his bluff he's all talk no game
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] relldroid:
exactly what I said
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Haven't you noticed the significantly higher percentage of non-technical users on XDA over the past year? When anyone does a search in Google on "discussion" or "problems" for a specific device chances are XDA will be above the fold. It's a developer's site but, in this very forum, there are 5K posts in the development section and 14K in general. I have a lot of patience and go out of my way to help people new to XDA and Android. I have little patience for tech snobs who look down on people that are trying to learn or are fearful of trashing a device they just paid several hundred dollars for. And unlocking, rooting, and ROMing isn't a prerequisite to contribute to XDA the last time I checked. And I'm guessing since XDA is funded by advertising the owners/moderators have no issue with novices joining the forum and driving millions of additional unique's each year.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GRS10:
Off topic, but the Canadian version of the Note is 32GB for $499 standard price. It was $399 at Best Buy during the New Years (really, extended boxing week) sale.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] COA4178:
Lol this thread is getting so jacked up not even funny... :what::screwy:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
Next thing you know someone's going to make a thread with a dump image and we're not gonna ever get to download it lol
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SayaX:
This thread is probably BS, but it doesn't matter. We'll get JB eventually. But if OP ends up being right, then good news for those who have JB before the rest of us...