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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Bagbug:
your boss paid for your Note 10.1 ? What kind of job does require a tablet ?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apristel:
You do NOT lose the ability to output via HDMI when you root.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] pre4speed:
My husbands employer provided him a state of the art windows 8 tablet, on top of his windows 7 laptop and iPhone. He works with LNG/CNG and getting stations up and running all over the country. None of those are his to keep should he leave the company for any reason, so no hacking allowed from me for those.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Itchiee:
I did using the exploit root, but it might have been more exploit then root in that case.

Anyone actually using HDMI via Samsung connector confirm?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Castle5665:
This is what I was waiting for! Did a simple root, tossed in cwm and installed 8013JB. Smooth and slick as I had hoped. Took about 20 minutes and no issues. NOW......Im good! Thanks to everyone that made this possible. I was beginning to lose hope.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Snow755:
did you this upgrade your note 10.1 too JB?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
I'm on german 4.1.2 and have the hover dot with s-pen, its under settings, s-pen (I think, don't have tablet in front of me at work).

Not really sure why you are on a developer's forum then? I have a lot of apps that need root such as root explorer, mutli window enabler apk, titanium back up, rom toolbox. I have never had problems getting a device warrantied because of root. Of course I always pay for insurance/ extra warranty so that might be part of it.

really? I haven't tried. I have a roku box, xbox 360, other streaming devices at home so haven't tried yet...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Castle5665:
If you're asking if I updated my 8013 Note 10.1 to the 8013 Jelly Bean rom......I sure did.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] id10terrordfw:
To the people questioning why someone doesn't root because of employer, there are IT systems that will tell if an ActiveSync connected device is rooted. This is why I don't do BYOD where I work anymore.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
I am on the forum for multiple reasons...

there is a lot on non flashing things discussed here as well... like accessories, tips and tricks, informative opinions...

I also note that no rooting pre-requisite is required to join forum.

I read what I like, and opine what I want. Try and keep up to date. Dont troll. Dont interfere in any threads in dev section.Love it.

And dare I say, this forum would be so deserted without all of us non-rooters!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stormglove:
I have been rooted since day 1 and been using the Samsung hdmi connector I had for my tab 10.1 without any problems.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] PsiPhiDan:
Yeah rooting just basically gives you administrative control of your tablet. That can't stop features from working.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GaresTaylan:
The company I work for has deployed around 50 iPads and a couple of Galaxy Tab 10.1s.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] chamberc:
I wish to use my tablet for work. Accessing company assets from my personal device (BYOD) means I have to adhere to the policies laid out by my employer.

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That is incorrect. Many secure clients, like Good for Enterprise have policies that check to see if the device is rooted, and if it is, disables itself from working.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
Absolutely right.

I have good for enterprise as well to get my corporate mails, and I had to unroot my tablet for it.

Luckily I have not rooted my galaxy S3, so atleast that could pull my mails, in the time-window my tablet was rooted.

Rooting will set the system status to MODIFIED..

Loading non-system ROMs (like even 8010 ROM on 8013) will set status to CUSTOM.

Depending upon your device status, certain DRM sensitive features may be blocked by either google apps (like play movies) or by samsung apps (like All share cast)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Castle5665:
Maybe when I set the counter back to zero that unblocked All Share Cast because I'm rooted cwm with 4.1.1 8013 Rom and it works flawlessly.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] widto08:
air view

This goes out to everyone that's wondering about air view (dot on screen).

While I was on the german 4.1.1 I did not have the ability to enable the "dot" on the screen, but I can now that I'm on this rom.

See pics below...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
It was restored as a feature in 4.1.2. A couple of strange things have happened to people though and I think it has to do with specific CSC/PDA combinations. When the first 4.1.1 German ROM came out a bunch of us with non-German CSCs lost the home screen launch icons. Hoss_N2 changed his CSC to BTU (the UK) and his reappeared on the exact same ROM (it's a multi-CSC ROM and BTU is supported). Similarly some people on the 4.1.2 ROM haven't gotten the hover indicator back even though it's an included feature in the ROM. So options would seem to be change the CSC or wait for the right ROM for your existing CSC to be released.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] widto08:
Interesting... Thanks for the clarification...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
Not only for the new 8013s.. the 4g version of galaxy note will also come with jelly bean later this month...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/galaxy-note-10-1-with-4g-lte-coming-to-verizon/

Maybe samsung was waiting to launch jellybean with this product launch in US.

i hope so... fingers crossed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] thachosenone:
At ces, Samsung and vzw just officially announced the note 10.1 with lte releasing with jelly Bean.

Along with the notes shopping with jelly Bean it's only a matter of time before the roll it out to us n8013ers
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Hmm. I wonder if their holding the update to give VZW some time with JB as a quasi-exclusive? Or if they were just waiting for VZW to make today's announcment? Owning a Samsung device is always great sport while trying to guess the hidden meaning of what they do (or don't) do. ;)

Here's the VZW press release...

http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2013/01/samsung-galaxy-note-tablet.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
Off topic but I know you heard about Tegra4 at CES. Quadcore+1 A15 CPU. 72core gpu(6 times the power of tegra3). Also 2nd. Generation battery savings core that consumes almost 50% less power than Tegra3. Nvidia has changed the mobile tech game up again ;) I gotta have it!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
I was hoping att would announce something soon as well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ilostmypistons:
Its happening again :eek:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] methaq:
I rooted my 8013 via exploit. Used triangle away to reset flash counter to zero. Installed UK 4.1.1 via Mobile Odin. My status says official.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I know right..I'm laughing. Can't lie though, I Miss my Prime. I still have dock boxed up. I need to put it on eBay or something.

With that said, I'm anxious for At@t to release 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 or just skip to 4.2 ;) I want those other apps in multiwindow mode. Note 10.1 still has tons of untapped potential. Especially developement wise.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kumki:
"I rooted my 8013 via exploit. Used triangle away to reset flash counter to zero. Installed UK 4.1.1 via Mobile Odin. My status says official.

What does samsung Kies desktop software say after the update. Does it say no update available? Also what happens when you do software update check on the note?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] methaq:
Kies says "Your device's current firmware version is not supported to update via Kies.

Current firmware version: PDA:LK9 / PHONE:LK9 / CSC:LL1 (BGL)"

Software update says the latest updates have already been installed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kumki:
Thanks for checking. I flashed the JB for 8013 that was posted yesterday. Reset the counter using traingle away. Count is zero. It says official now.

But when I check software update on the device it is just spinning "checking for software updates" not giving no update or up to date message.

Kies says "Your device's current firmware version is not supported to update via Kies.

Current firmware version: PDA:LK8 / PHONE:LK8 / CSC:LK8 (XAR)"

Will OTA work for me or not?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] methaq:
I do not know if OTA will work.

When the update is available, I will just flash the official 8013 4.1.1 ROM.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
If you look at the article on Engadget the PR release shows JB, but the specs details for all their note 10.1 devices, incouding LTE models, say ICS. That's just sloppy on Samsung's part not to update info; however, given their bragging at CES on profits from cell phones, I'm beginning to think non-phone products are viewed as less important products.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Their work (not timing) on the Note 10.1's software paints a different picture. The differences between the features provided in ICS and JB practically make it a different device. Even the differences between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 show they are sweating the details. If the Note was less important they could have simply changed what they needed infrastructuraly to move from ICS to JB and called it a day. Hell, based on the nine months it took to get ICS (over GB) on the OG G-Tab's, we'd have no update schedule to talk about because there wouldn't be any. So I think their heart and mind is in the right place but once again their execution is the source of endless conversation and speculation. While through the backdoor, I have "official" versions of 4.1.2 running on both my Note 10.1 and N2. Based on the Samsung of yore that's not too shabby. If official 4.2 leaks start to appear over the next couple of weeks you might even say their trying to turn over a new leaf. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
I seriously doubt the forums would be empty without y'all. Millions of rooted members here..

Another year, another Tega device that will be obsolete by summer... Don't see the big oem's jumping from qualcomm.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nfinity:
Sigh... I'm so ready for it to be modulated OTA into my Note's brain. My ICS is beginning to melt.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Demandarin and I have used up about 1GB of server space on XDA talking about Nvidia. ;) He's generally more upbeat; I tend to agree with you. Teg4 is "Wayne" (or is it Grey?) which, based on Nvidia's last road map, should be in our hands by now. Now it's set to appear in a hand-held gaming console "mid-year" with no discussion about when it's going to appear in phones or tablets. Exynos 5 Quad and Krait v3 (an enhanced S4 Pro) are scheduled for release in devices in Q1. To your point, unless it's sold at bargain basement prices, what's the draw for OEMs to use Teg4? Nvidia's notorious proprietary graphics and low-level power management drivers hosed the launch of some of Asus' tablets and the Teg3 HTC One X. Samsung's on record saying they have "no relationship" with Nvidia so there goes 75% of the Android market. Teg3 wasn't impressive and was only used in two phones (LG and HTC) and quickly ended up being a low-end tablet SoC. They came out strong with Teg2 as the first dual-core SoC but have been fighting an uphill battle ever since. Here's what the press said about Nvidia's CES presentation. Spoiler alert: They weren't impressed.

http://www.zdnet.com/nvidias-ces-2013-clunker-its-not-easy-going-cloud-7000009470/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] gpgalanis:
Sorry to say but the differences between ICS and JB are almost unidentifiable except for the premium suite. The JB that my Note 2 runs out of the box is much much better than my UK Note 10.1 which has all these small annoying bugs (otg stops doesn't reconnect, gallery and keyboard lags terribly, I can t stop the vibration when screen rotates, the exploit is still not fixed).

The ICS on Note 10.1 is the best I tried. The JB just sucks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
And you said I was being cynical when I suggested this a few days back.. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dtl:
Looking at a few other forums and some statements that the JB release for the US will be end of Jan. http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1/241246-any-word-premium-suite-update.html

edit: Information about release date based on this site : http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1/662620-jellybean-note-10-1-usa-version.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
That article more about cloud computing. Which is not that important to me. We can't say tegra3 was a bust. As its found in most android tabs now. Nexus7 is likely its biggest success. Plus it powers most windows rt devices.

FACTOID: most powerful super computer in the world is powered by Nvidia. Teg3 optimized games are still the best and most sought after. 2013 will definitely be an interesting year in the mobile sector. Samsung may not support them, but all others basically do. Asus is catching up slowly but surely. They number2.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
Response from Samsung Exec Customer service

I just got this info in an emaiil as a follow up to a phone conversation from an escalated Customer Service Question. Not sure if it means anything?

We received your claim in our Executive Customer Relations department regarding your Samsung Tablet model GT-N8013EAYXAR and the roll out date for "Jelly Bean" update. After reviewing all information in the claim, I checked on your request for a roll out of the update for "jelly bean" and I was advised that it has rolled out and if you haven't already received your update you should receive in the next 5 -7 days. Please give us a call at 1-800-726-7864 to further discuss your concerns with our technical support team.

Thank you;

Gregg L.

Samsung Electronics America
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] demandarin:
I surely hope that holds to be true. I ready for the new official update. I want my tablet to stay a virgin as far as having to hack n take extra measures to get it to run latest firmware. I'm sure down the road more ill mod it but for now I'm still satisfied with out the box stock ICS performance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
Agreed. Great as it is. I have to admit I have been sucked in by the update mystery. Not so much that I have to have the update now but just intrigued by the total silence on its status. Lets hope the promise of it being out or delivered within 5 to 7 days is accurate.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] joe139:
We should blow that number up!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Knock yourself out. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] santiagodraco:
So if it's already "rolled out" why do you need to wait 5-7 days "if you haven't seen it already?"

Sounds like they just bought another week of you not calling customer support :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dtl:
Yes but much better than my experience. Did the chat thing with support yesterday. First was nope nothing happening. The second was interesting as he asked for my specific tab number. But the answer was sorry when it comes out you will know. Then I explored the ohter forums and came away about late Jan as I posted. So this is cool and oh my gosh a number to cal :silly:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] joe139:
I just chatted with customer support, I pretty much was told it's not here, you will get a pop up when it's ready. And I was given a worthless link to the note description page that once again says it is equipped with 4.0. Oh well, maybe by the end if the year.

from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Sent
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
dont worry. you'll get the update by the end of 2013.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
Don't make promises you can't keep.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] SamsungSucks:
You do realize that customer support don't know crap, right? They are not given any special insight into the company and their plans on release dates of firmware. They are just call center employees that read what's ever on the computer screen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
We'll see. Or maybe we'll get it by jan 2014. Who know
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] benda18:
I didn't read every post from all 43 pages, but for what it's worth I ordered an 8013 from Amazon on Jan 5 and received it yesterday (Jan 8) and it had 4.0.X. Checked for updates and it said there was one, but it ended up being 4.0.4.

Was the 8013 new shipment JellyBean a rumor or someone trolling, or have more people than just the OP reported this being true?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
A few people got JB. there is a rom that got pulled from one of them in the development section

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36345798

[ROM][STOCK][4.1.1] N8013 Stock Rooted Busybox Deodexed (CWM)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] RonJohnson4164:
Depends on build date -- ones with JellyBean seem to have a build date of November 30.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ReggieTee:
Walmart has the Nexus 10 in stock at a couple locations where I live. I think i'm going to pick one up tomorrow to check out. The two things that bother me about the the 10.1 the most are updates from Samsung and the display. Now with the updates, of course Samsung is usually slow but with no carrier input, I would have though that Jellybean would've been rolled out on the 8013 by now. The display isn't as bad as reviews make it seem and I probably could live with the resolution, especially knowing that Jellybean should make a good tablet a great one. The display and updates from Google is appealing to me. I've had my 10.1 for 2 weeks and have 45 days to return to best buy. Gonna check out the Nexus 10 for the weekend. If I like it, my Note will be going back. I bought two and my wife loves hers. I had a Nexus 7 before and I kinda miss it. Yes I know I can root the Note, but I really didn't want to do that. I don't see a need to.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
If your a gamer at all, make sure you run it through its paces with a few high end games. I had one for a few days and Need For Speed:MW would make it very choppy a few minutes in to the game. It throttles the cpu/gpu fairly quickly.

This article explains it:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6536/arm-vs-x86-the-real-showdown
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
A Nexus device will always get updates first so if that's anyone's number one priority buying a device with an overlay is just looking for pain. But after using a friend’s N10 over the holidays there's no way I'd give up the additional features Samsung's added to stock Android just to get updates faster. And after using my Note (display aside) my friend's questioning the barren-wasteland that is "pure Google." To each their own.

The U.S. ranting over the update is getting tedious. The first JB leak was in October and the first official ROM appeared in November. Samsung's been developing new builds, each improving on the last, since the first leak appeared. Additional regions have been receiving the update regularly. It's the beginning of January which is about ten weeks since the leak and about six since the first official ROM. N8013's are shipping with JB so there's no reason to believe existing devices won't be updated in a matter of weeks. I have no idea why the updates haven't been pushed out more aggressively. I know they were focusing on getting the LTE Note's rolled out (and their late) so maybe that was/is diverting their developer’s attention. I'd be pissed too if there wasn't steady progress and if the features being added didn't show Samsung's commitment to the Note's s/w. And I don't mean this harshly, but as someone who travels globally and works for a global company the U.S. isn't the center of the universe. And I don't think Samsung's choices of the order regions are updated in is meant either as a reward or punishment. The first 4.1.2 ROM for the N2 appeared for the Polish carrier Play. The reason? The Samsung team working on 4.1.2 for the N2 happened to be based in Poland so working with a local carrier accelerated development. Germany's gotten a lot of ROM attention so for all we know part of the Note 10.1's development team may be based there. Motorola's a U.S. company and it took months after international markets received JB for the Xoom for them to release it to U.S. users. So I think the U.S. gets what it gets when it's ready and that there's no anti-U.S. conspiracy at play.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] RonJohnson4164:
This is a very well-reasoned post, and normally I would agree with everything you said. However, there are a couple of problems with your reasoning: 1) The update was supposed to be ready by the end of the year; and 2) Notes with the latest build dates are being shpped with Jelly Bean. Finally, to add insult to injury, Samsung just introduced an LTE model in the U.S. that has Jelly Bean.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
The LTE version passed through the FCC in August along with the N10. The N10 was available in November while the LTE Note was just announced yesterday. HTC's CEO personally committed that the One X/XL/S would be updated to JB in October. One region and one device received it as "promised" with the majority getting it the last week of December. As they say, stuff happens.

Samsung sold 1MM Note's a month in each of August and September. Assuming that run-rate stayed the same there are 5MM Note's in peoples hands. If the support infrastructure (agent training, new decision trees for agents, feature-use instructions, online support materials) isn't yet fully in place the risk of a handful of Note's with JB pre-installed dribbling out is far less than prematurely updating 1MM (WAG) U.S. Note's. Hell, their still changing features and the way multiview is invoked on the first official JB ROMs is different than the latest.

With the Note released in August and the LTE version passing through the FCC at the same time something happened that prevented it from being launched earlier and missing the holiday selling season caused a bunch of lost sales. That may or may not have any bearing on the Wi-Fi Note's update but something clearly was happening s/w wise (WAG) behind the scenes because the h/w was sufficiently developed to seek FCC approval.

Samsung's no saint when it comes to updates, and clearly this could be done better on multiple levels, but they aren't any worse than anyone else. Hopefully the N8013 update will arrive soon and this will be just a memory. That is until "where's 4.2?" threads start. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. ;)

P.S. - Product managment reports to me so that's where some of my speculation (rationalization?) is coming from.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ReggieTee:
The 10.1 LTE version shown at CES was still running ICS I think. A guy from TechnoBuffalo has a video up on Youtube.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] RonJohnson4164:
Stand corrected -- sort of. In reply to other past on CES, someone said he was at CES and said he heard a customer complaining while he checked out device which was running jellybean.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
No need to correct yourself. I'm just sharing some behind the scenes speculation that you guys might find interesting. It might be right or Samsung could truly be as disorganized and incompetent as some imply. As large and distributed as they are it's kind of amazing they get stuff out the door at all and that it works as well as it does. Can you imagine what it must take to get a "global" decision approved at Samsung? ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] elzeus:
Don't forget there were two things that could have slowed down their plans to release the update.

1. Exynos exploit

2. GS3 death bug (could have delayed their plans by checking all their devices for this bug)

Hopefully it drops by the end of the month.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jpfx:
I think they also might've delayed so that it doesn't steal the fire from

the note 10.1 being released on verizon stateside.

Might even part of the agreement they have with verizon to make that model a significant improvement over the one on the shelves elsewhere.