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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] pwatkins:
Bulbous, I absolutely agree.

Many thousands of others in countries all around the world have done the same - probably even a few in the USA! I am running 4.1.2 on my N8000 here in South Africa and JB has only made a superb device better.

This is a "developers" forum. I can understand why people might come on here, read through the helpful posts, maybe ask a question or two, but finally decide to do nothing as it seems a bit too complicated. That's their decision. But to just come on here and complain and then do nothing is totally disrespectful to the rest of the forum.

IMO Samsung is very much better at providing on-going real software improvement (not just bug fixes - they hardly seem to need them) then most other hardware and software companies around the world. In more than 40 years working in high tech industry I recall waiting over a year for Microsoft to fulfill their promises - and then delivering virtually unworkable systems. Apple, at certain times, have been little better. Since I have had my SGN10.1 Samsung have made available two significant upgades - 4.1.1 & 4.1.2. I only needed a few minutes of my time to get them working seamlessly on my devuce.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Barsky:
Yeah, Redemption is pretty nice. been running it for a few days without problems. Love being able to switch back and forth between windowed and full screen on the multiwindow apps I and other created.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] skeeterpro:
I also hope Samsung rolls out sometime soon. Call me a "Nervous Nellie" but I hope the possible litigation looking to ban US sales of the 8013 doesn't hinder the JB OTA! :confused:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] skeeterpro:
Well written! Excellent advice. Unfortunately the collaborative milieu can foster those who don't READ and ABSORB before posting. I've found more often than not, answers exist with a little work searching.

Keep the faith 'Wolf, and thanks.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] pwatkins:
Werewolf, I was not specifically "complaining" about you. But the other approx 460 posts in the SGN10.1 forums (just did a quick tot up) from people moaning that Samsung is days/weeks late in providing a JB update for "their" tablet. When given details on how they can upgrade, to Samsung official JB firmware, using Barry's or other excellent descriptions, they do nothing but just post again a few days later - where is "my" update!

You may like this. I feel that it simply clutters the forum with meaningless verbiage for those who are interested in the main purpose of learning and sharing information about this excellent device.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Hmtsjmftsch:
Couldn't agree more. I think this might be appropriate (not directed at anyone specifically):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOWGG2p1FQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
And real multi window. That is the one I am waiting on. Got my note from best buy (wife bought it). It has 4.0.4 on it. I will have to check her's (ordered from amazon week before xmas) and see what version she has.

Both are 32gb models.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ReggieTee:
I purchased two for my wife and i on Thursday from best buy. Both came with ICS.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dtl:
Got mine from Amazon on Thursday, ICS. Did call customer service to to find out about where I could get a HDMI adapter since I could not find any places in the US that had them. I was a bit concerned about the lack of accessories. Amazon said they had them but did not know when they would get more. Now they have removed their list to the hdmi and only point to expensive 3rd party vendors. I was concerned that this tablet was going no where. Three things, 1) I think this is a great tablet and it is replacing my HP TP (rooted and running latest ICS and JB) which by the way is hard to do, so maybe not totally. I needed the pen for editing, 2) service said that the holidays brought stock down, 3) I am glad to see the interest in this table here.

I asked about the GB update and they said they did not know of one. I pushed a bit but did not get anywhere. It is very odd to me that the reps are uninformed. Maybe it is a safety thing so they do not say anything that could get Sam in trouble. Still if updates were to take place, as they have in Germany for example, a simple yes updates are planned but do not have a date for you would have been appropriate.

dave,
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
In light of the US International Trade Commission judge's recommendation last week that Samsung phones and tablets be banned from the US market and Apple's claim that Jellybean infringes on its patents, I'm worried that Samsung will dump the Jellybean upgrade for the Note 10.1. They definitely have to be perusing the judge's opinion with a fine tooth comb and considering modifications to their US products should the President decide to impose a ban.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Riki1kenobi:
For anyone having issues with the device showing custom, a question......did you root the device to install the exynos exploit fix? IF YES, did you unroot vis super su BEFORE updating to the German Rom?

I have tested this out on my tab and installing the newer German Rom without unrooting leaves a CUSTOM status whilst unrooting BEFORE installing the update through Odin results in OFFICIAL status.

Also, to the people wondering about the Allshare Cast. The only instances I have been able to reproduce to make it NOT work is to root, install a custom rom and NOT reset the counter via triangle away.

In my tests, the following will keep Allshare working; Root, install Stock German JB rom (even if device status shows custom). Not rooting, then Install German ICS Ali3 rom then update to German JB rom (with device status custom and yes you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET OTA UPDATES). The most recent flash was to unroot via super su then install the latest German JB rom via Odin (PC) which has reset my device back to OFFICIAL. Allshare works, as does the OTA search, though unsurprisingly I'm up to date ;)

Hope this helps allay some fears, helps some make the decision to go JB.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] relldroid:
Sucks that the one person who has it can't upload it.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's one...

http://www.all4cellular.com/product/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-hdtv-adapter.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dtl:
Wow thanks, I wish I had known about this before I got one from samsungparts!

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rats now I am worried.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
The bans are for devices that are a generation old and the SGS3, N2, and Note 10.1 weren't even considered. And the ITC has said s/w work-arounds are an acceptable alternative to prevent them from being banned. All of the featutres in the Note 10.1 are also included in the N2 (and then some). AT&T and T-Mobile just pushed out JB updates to their respective N2's this past week. Like Freud said, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] pwatkins:
You guys crease me up. Just read the ruling :

The infringing devices, in Pender''s... ruling, include models of Samsung's Transform, Acclaim, Indulge and Intercept smartphones. [ONLY!!]

None of these phones afaik have been sold in the USA for maybe two years! Apple has been trying to tag on a catch-all listing nearly every device that Samsung makes - probably including Air Conditioners and Refigerators! None of these additional devices are covered.

Even these extremely limited recommendations, from a single Judge, also must be first approved by the six-member ITC Commission and then go to presidential approval.

In the meantime one of the four Apple patents covered by the ruling has already been invalidated by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and they are re-examining several other Apple patents.

And you think that this will affect anything for years and years - if ever!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mke1973:
Judge Pender's decision holds that 4 Apple patents have been infringed by Samsung in Android devices. (From Foss Patents):

U.S. Design Patent D618,678*on an "ornamental design of an electronic device"U.S. Patent No. 7,479,949*on a "touch screen device, method, and graphical user interface for determining commands by applying heuristics" (which Apple wanted to call "the Jobs patent" in a trial in Judge Posner's court that never took place)U.S. Patent No. RE41,922*on a "method and apparatus for providing translucent images on a computer display"U.S. Patent No. 7,912,501*on an "audio I/O headset plug and plug detection circuitry"

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/10/preliminary-itc-ruling-finds-samsung-in.html

Apple has the opportunity to appeal the US Patent Office's invalidation of pinch-to-zoom and rubberbanding patents as well as the jury verdict from the Delaware jury that invalidated 3 other Apple patents. They have the warchest to exhaust all available avenues to delay complete invalidation of patents involved in regulatory and legal battles with Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
After I registered my note they sent me an email for 50% off accessories from Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
As another HP Touchpad (running Android) user, let me tell you, you are are going to be blown away by the Note 10.1. The TP was great at firesale prices and a good device overall. But the Note 10.1 is in a class all by itself. It was hard to justify the money after getting the TP so cheap, but I don't regret it a single bit. Worst case, load the German ROM and be done with it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
I too had rooted via exynos exploit and my device shows modified status on 4.0.4.

So, How do you unroot completely?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
Thanks given. Have been worried about All Share Cast losing functionality. This may help me make the leap. I will give it a few more days
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] nrfitchett4:
checked my wife's amazon purchased note 10.1 and its ICS as well. Weird that if its really out there, no one has leaked it yet.

Not calling BS on OP, but a lot of devs can walk you through how to pull the image from the tablet and upload it for all.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
I'm ready to call bull****. Not that the agent I spoke to knew anything, but there HAVE to be more instances... and what kind of person gloats on xda and doesn't share? I'm still skeptical... the screenshot could easily be forged.... I could anyway....besides, the rep I talked to said the build number doesn't exist in the US database.

The ONLY thing the OP has going for him is that the rep officially admitted that they ARE shipping new models with JB, and that's why they updated their site. But in that case, amazon unpacked their new stock WAY before they were supposed to, as JB 8013s weren't supposed to be sold before Friday (when they updated their site) which I'm sure happens all the time...

Regardless, OPs screenshot could be real, could be fake. Period. If he gets offended at that, it just indicates guilt to me. People don't react strongly to stuff that's not true about them.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GSLEON3:
BS...I have the 4.1.2 DBT update instaleld & it works fine. I moddified the CSC files, added the Amazon resources for Kno & the build prop for everything else. With the latest update, you don't have to do that, you don't have to change your kernel or govenor settings. been running it from day one without issue. Modding the WiFi etc files gives you 5GHZ support & changing the CSC by manually copying the files over gives you back lock screen shortcuts.

All of the information on the settings/about device screen can be modded simply with any text editor, even on the device itself with root explorer.

My brother works for Amazon & is a manager in purchasing for the Arizona location. So far, he said they haven't even replenished Note stock, so I don't see how one could have JB from the factory. Unless the seals were broken & it was a return that had been modded, I have to throw a flag here as well.

A screen shot with the more specific "Battery & software data would be better. If it is a modded version, it won't be possible, because it crashes com.android.phone looking for network.

4.0.4. update is LI3. XAR is device version, as in the CSC for the US.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Q9Nap:
so, back to the topic at hand; could the op please either pull the tar from kies or dump the device partitions? if you have any questions on how to do these things, i'd be glad to help you :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
Conveniently, OPs brother is the one with said US JB 8013, and they "didn't have time" to do a system dump. If OP cannot provide more solid proof that his screen shots are not fake, I suggest this thread be closed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Nakel:
Interesting. I checked Samsungs's website. In places it says the Note 10.1 has ICS, in other places it says Jellybean. It would make sense that the rollout has to be pretty darn soon, or they're facing a class action lawsuit. And since most shipping tablets have ICS, they'd also be pretty smart to make it an OTA. After being bitten by the Apple lawsuit, I don't think they'd be risking a class action for nothing. If there's not an OTA tomorrow or Tuesday, Samsung has screwed up in a pretty major way by listing JB on their site... My guess is tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] relldroid:
.img or it didnt happen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
Not that I ever believe them but I just had a customer Service rep tell me that all new 8013 being released have JB and that batches of updates should start "soon" . Typical Samsung
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
Anytime you talk to a customer service rep and get info that's not generally available, ask the rep if he smokes. The odds of the info being right are much higher if the rep smokes. Smokers tend to have contact with more people from different departments of the company that normal reps would never have a chance to talk to.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
Funny but now that I think about it you are probably right.

I asked how it was possible that new units had JB but they could not get an update out to the current owners. The rep said "good question" and elevated my request to what he called an ECR, someone is supposed to call me within 2 days to discuss. Not looking for any magic, that is for sure.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dtl:
nice, no such luck here :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GETCASHMONEY:
You can use mine! Use this code at checkout: rE157750d
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] dtl:
thank you, you are very kind, but I sort of loaded up on stuff already (extra chargers, case folio, hdmi, usb adapter) also it turns out that my pen from my lenovo x61 tablet works fine, so I have extra pens too.

Thanks again! Happy New Year.

dave
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GETCASHMONEY:
Well if anyone else wants to use my code, feel free!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
Same code I got. I think the limit is 10 items per address
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Image dump would be killer
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Yea we need a dump image
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stevessvt:
I think we've been Rick Roll'd.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Actually screenshot doesn't prove nothing you can edit the build.prop very easily in fact my tablet says I'm running 4.3 LOL
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Never_Again:
How do you suggest that I provide sufficient proof?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] apristel:
I wouldn't do ****. Let them whine and cry about it being fake. Who cares? Haters gonna hate.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Provide a dump

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Why would people hate? Obviously if you got money to throw at the note $500 then you obviously got money to get the nexus 10 which is running 4.2.1 so if people want JB that bad get the much better N10 and all your up to date needs will be fixed right?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] widto08:
Just get intouch with one of the devs here and I'm sure they'll walk you through getting a system dump wheather here on open forum or in private message, its that simple ;)

This pic just shows how easy it is to "fake" what system is running on your tab, jfyi
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Rootuser3.0:
Exactly editing the build.prop that's what i stated earlier
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Riki1kenobi:
Use super su, in the settings within the app you select unroot and it will unroot and remove super su app from the device. Happy New year ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rawrd:
You know I think you have to root and I'm betting he doesn't want to void his warranty.

Anyway, I just noticed this. Check the screenshot - Jelly Bean has user accounts in the settings tab, while ICS does not. Honestly, I don't get why this is so far-fetched.

Edit: I didn't post to "gloat" as I've noticed the word a few times in this thread. I thought you all would be excited as it's an indicator must be almost time for rollout and I know the wait has been a long one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
People are impatient. I know I would love to get JB. And as far as I know you don't have to root. There are tutorials on how but basically just hook it up to the computer and making a backup of your system
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rawrd:
From the looking I've done the ADB methods and terminal methods require root - if anyone knows a method that doesn't require rooting, please share!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] crystalstylez:
Very easy to unroot though. So most dont want to hear that. I just installed redemption rom and will easily odin back when the real comes out.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
I've never done it so I don't really know. I didn't think it had to be rooted. There isn't anything wrong with rooting. You can unroot easily. But I know how some people think that rooting your device will cause it to blow up and your screwed. Try and talk him into it and help out the community. I know it would be greatly appreciated.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] elzeus:
I get mine on thursday brand new so if it has JB I will follow up on what I have to do to get you guys the backup
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Riki1kenobi:
Just leave the guy be. This thread, and this site, is starting to get a right precious mob mentality about it. What next, pitchforks at the ready and hunt the guy down. IF anyone wants jellybelly so badly, install the perfectly usable German rom. Otherwise, either wait for Sammy to release it for your device or be happy on ICS. ;)

Happy hogbeer all :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
Its not perfect. From what I have read the USB connection doesn't work that well and there is German writing which isn't a big deal for me if its only in s-note. But I use the USB often. I can wait for the US version but wouldn't mind getting it early. Anyway Happy New Year
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] optimus43:
Not sure what the prob with usb is? I have the german rom on my 8010 and the usb works fine for connecting to computer, for transfereing files with the usb adapter. As for german writing that is also not a concern. As far as I can tell the german rom is 100% fine. There is no german writing in snote or anywhere else and the usb adapter works fine

My system status is normal and all the functions work 100%

As for posters who think the op faked the post that is just silly and not in the spirit of this forum at all. Why would her bother? If you dont to want to believe him fine dont. But dont call the guy out for trying to help. Thats just plain ignorant!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] aletheus:
IF he actually has OEM JB, and isn't willing to share, its gloating. I'm still skeptical, and that doesn't make me a hater. I'm perfectly happy with my device the way it is, in fact, I had to rollback the initial 45MB update they've already pushed to screencast properly. I wouldn't have bought this thing if I couldn't screencast with it.

But, the truth will out!

Id like to make a motion to close this thread as I'm not the only one who believes this is a total hoax. Do I hear a second?

Mob mentality? Xda is growing in popularity and notoriety. Samsung is aware it has a devoted independent development base on xda. The More people start realising the flexibility and power linux offers, the more they'll migrate to android. Ever heard of Heidegger's levelling-down of publicness?

@rawr and Never_Again: I'm not accusing you. But if you can't provide the image file, why would you bother? JUST to show Samsung is shipping new units w JB while not pushing the OTA to people who've already bought it? Fair enough.

Look at the 'JB for 8010' thread and compare. When you join a community, it helps to participate. The whole purpose of xda is to circumvent the restrictions manufacturers and carriers embed in these devices to keep power (revenue stream exploration and discovery--or just sheer information) from the people. If you really want to prove you're legit, a flashable system image is the way to go. They (unlike screenshots) cannot be forged....even by the pros.

Not only would it vindicate you and command a sincere apology from me, but it'd give everyone else the JB experience too!!!! Which is EXACTLY what the gnu/linux project is all about. Here, for further reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjaC8Pq9-V0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Revolution OS

Peace!

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"That is just silly"--- what does that even mean?

The spirit of this forum is sharing... the spirit of android is to share...

Not calling him out... but if it's fake, then this thread is just a waste of space. Read the forum rules.

Not calling him out, helping him figure out how to REALLY help...robin hood style.

The German Rom is just fine....but you have to root, well the bearer of said tablet doesn't want to root either....

If there's a way to back up the system image without root, let it come forth so we can all be happy!

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] optimus43:
You dont have to root the german rom!! Theres a whole thread on how to do it without rooting. Im not rooted I just flashed through odin and that was it. Fullu functional english JB 4.1.1. With no issues that I have found so far

As fo the silly comment I dont get what would be in it to propagate a hoax. Why would anyone waste their time.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Shagerty:
because..

The answer i think as to who would perpetuate a hoax is someone thats interested in getting attention..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kcour2006:
Not to add fuel to the fire, but Samsung's website shows the n8013 with jelly bean as the operating system. See here: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-N8013ZWYXAR?

So, perhaps not a hoax. Just a newly shipped product with the latest and greatest.

Happy New Year everyone.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
I read other posts about there being things in german in s-note and the usb not working to well, having to restart to get it to work often. I just upgraded to the german JB and everything is in english as far as I have seen. Haven't tried the usb yet but hopefully it works like you say yours does.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kkretch:
WOW... they do have it listed as Jelly Bean now....

This is a slap in the face to those of us that already purchased and have not been updated.

Maybe this is a way to draw in more buyers after Christmas.

It makes me want to call them and ask why mine does not have Jelly Bean installed and see what they have to say.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rgane5327:
Tried to call... got a big run around with no straight forward answers
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] wizlon:
With all due respect to this rep, he is mistaken. Samsung have a good record of (slowly) updating their products. They are going to update our ICS to JB. The only thing they can be justly accused of is not telling us "when".

Being patient sucks, but I'd try to chill over this and see how January goes. I believe it'll be here before months end.

Andrew