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[Off-topic] b4silver:
I currently mow lawns. Started small and now I have 23 small to medium sized yards. I make pretty good money. Can't get an actual job yet. I'm only 14 and can't drive.

Edit: And I don't get allowance like the majority of kids my age.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
The no allowance thing is good. Because allowance is synonymous with "free money" and there's really no point in it

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[Off-topic] 23Six:
If you do come around. Please don't get him a BlackBerry.

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[Off-topic] Super2cool:
LOL

BB 10 will change the world..

Its going to revolutionize the smartphone :)
[Off-topic] soccerandroid:
Just get he/she an unlocked phone with no data. Let them use wifi. I'm 13 lol

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[Off-topic] Goth Wolf:
Don't like this generalization my first smart phone I got back in 08 or 09 don't remember the name of it but I've only ever had one phone bought for me (definitely not a smartphone) every new phone I've bought myself since I'm 19 and for the past 5 years I've worked (I worked cleaning an sterilizing a surgery center at an ophthalmic center) to pay for my own plan an own phones including the HTC Evo, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, an S3 (Bought a few others but these are ones I still have). I'm currently working on a game in C#/C++ which I can do programming on the go with my phone. A smartphone can definitely be a benefit to a teen (I've been using mine as a programming on the go aide since I was 16), of course make them earn it.
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
How do you know they don't do other things with their phone when you aren't looking?

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[Off-topic] _Variable:
Lmao, agreed.

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[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
Agreed.

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[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Why adults dont need smartphones? Because they arent smart enough to use it! They are dumbasses
[Off-topic] gesange:
Yeah didnt thought about that.........embrassed
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I respect teens with smartphones if they earned them themselves. You earned it, it's yours, end of story. Nobody who has a right to tell you no. If mommy and daddy paid for them, it's lousy parenting. In 10 years time mom and dad will still be paying for everything because their dear little kid can't handle money.

Teens with S3's, iPhone 5's, One X and the rest of the above 500 pricerange that didn't pay for it are spoiled brats. These are also the ones screaming the loudest at everyone who says so.

Because really, unicourses aren't classes. :rolleyes: You can be 27 and still go to 'school'.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Adults who say teens dont need phone should look at themselves! My mom and dad both are stupid using their phones but we teens are professionals are using at their phones. We modify our firmwares then increase our internal memory then do various things that even our parents couldnt do! Thus adults dont need android or Ios smartphones. They need normal phones
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I'm pretty sure your mom and dad aren't in this thread. ;) Besides, we all know the horrors of Generation X and modern tech, most can't even find an onswitch if there's a big neon arrow above it... :silly:

But the "look at yourself first" argument isn't really a very mature one... That's pretty much what I meant about screaming the loudest. ;)

Also, they do their business on their phone. Work. earning the money needed to pay for your food, and housing, and clothing, and phone. (In general. Not you in person.) ;)
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
I had to pass all my school exams and test to earn my phone! True my parents use it for work but my mom use it for whatsapp and man she asks me everything from fowarding the message to updating the app
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
9 out of 10 times my mom can't even find the key to unlock the keylock on her ancient nokia, and my dad thinks touchscreens are still the same as 'the crap ones we use at work' (which are from 1999...)... :rolleyes: :facepalm: My boss uses whatsapp on his iCrap to communicate with his foreign importers. So the program doesn't say much about the users. (The user in this case, however, is a moron.)
[Off-topic] SirSigma:
I used a Windows Mobile phone since my senior year of high school and it really helped because I would use it for my tasks. It was still rough around the edges because typing on it was annoying, but it got the job done. Then I started to use it for my college and work schedules until I was able to get my first Android phone. After that, it was much easier thanks to Google Calendar and whatnot.

I would say if a teen is productive and plans to use the smartphone for productive reasons, they likely deserve one. Even if they're not planning to develop anything. If they're the type that need to be on Facebook 24/7 and text while driving their parent's car, fuck that shit, let them keep their clamshell dumphone.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Need is the operative word.

Do teens NEED a smartphone? Of course not.

Can some teens having smartphones do more harm than good? Yes, for some.

The real question is for the parents, because you kids aren't even close to having your brains fully developed (medical fact, not an insult) and lack life experience to determine actual needs.

Parents need to ask: Should MY teen have a smartphone?

Are they responsible, socially engaged with people in person, getting good grades, and an all around hard worker? If yes, then sure they should if they want one.

Did they earn the money for it? If yes, and they're responsible and respectful, then sure.

Are they interested in the technology and learning development? Of course, get them one if won't detract from their life.

If grades and attitude are poor and/or they are socially immature and it would be a distraction or they wouldn't respect it as a privilege, then I think they shouldn't.

-Accidental Asshole
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I'd like to object to that on one point. You don't need to be socially skilled to need a smartphone, poor social skills are usually found in high IQ's. I'm a sociopath and my smartphone is a vital part of my life and my work, even when I was a teen. (And no, I don't have facebook.)

I had a HD2 in my senior year. Wrote my entire final thesis on it. (I never had typing issues on WinMo. The lack of suggestive typing was wonderful. I've hated T9 since the day it was created.)
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I've seen many kids become hermits due to social media... get out there and experience the world, kids!

If an anxiety disorder or some other thing that prevents normal social interaction is present, it's entirely different. No disrespect to such people. My son is autistic and I've got relatives with ocd, ptsd, etc. and I see their struggles.

-Accidental Asshole
[Off-topic] gmaster1:
well the grades bit and attitude is mostly always low. ive seen parents with kids who swear their buts off and do not give a damn but they still have everything. ipod, iphone, ipad and still act rude and pesky. if i were the parents i would just take it off them. on the spot. i dont ever remember getting all these things when i was young. i dont know what the parents do to make them like that but its just normal now. good thing i have no money to give away for nothing.

That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem? :eek:
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
If the teenager pays for the phone then they should absolutely be able to have one.

This is what I do as a 17 year old.
[Off-topic] raducux:
What a dumb ass thread .
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Why, cause your parents won't buy you a smartphone?
[Off-topic] Spidey!:
I'm with you there, if they can afford it who's to stop 'em? my first phone on my parents plan was the moment.. I hated it and my dad buy me a phone... Yeah better luck building one. So I had to get my own (work/make money) now I have 4 different smart phones to tinker with. So if they can afford em then they can have em.

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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
This is where adult wisdom (which most people don't have until they're 25+) comes into play. You've got to see the bigger picture. You may well deserve your phone, but it's no need.

Just because a minor pays for something themselves doesn't mean they should have it. If, for example, a kid with a job has an eating disorder, they shouldn't go out and buy 5 gallons of ice cream. They lack the wisdom to make appropriate decisions. Do it's up to the parents to ensure they're not ****ing up.

If my son had a job, but was spending all night on Facebook rather than studying, I wouldn't let him have a smartphone.

Just good parenting.

-Accidental Asshole
[Off-topic] SirSigma:
If I had a son, he'd be busting his ass off in military school.
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
I understand that. But you do get what I am saying, right?
[Off-topic] applepirateflag:
maybe teens in my country only use the smartphone for Facebook, twitter. The feature of smartphone that they use just below 5% i think.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
To some extent. If a child works to pay for it, that should be factored into the decision the parents make, but there may be other factors that sway against the decision.

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy
[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Why wouldn't Teens want a Smartphone? I have one plus a tablet. And not all of them are expensive, some cost around $60 to $130 and are quite good.

Android= Alpha

Apple= That thing that's less than a Omega
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Want and need are different

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[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Perhaps smart teens don't need a phone...
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Well how else are you going to effectively ignore everybody else? ;)

People are much mroe likely to leave you alone when you're fiddling with your phone than when you're reading a book. (That's what I mostly used my Smartphone for in highschool: Reading books. Still do, the SGS3 is a fine E-Reader :p)
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
When I was a teen I use to go rabbit\squirrel shootin' with a .22 over me shoulder...didn't get bothered much :)
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
So much ^THIS^ I can't stand it! Now, that's how it should be! Was a teen in the early 90's. Cell phones in general were rare, at least I'm my neighborhood. If you didn't want to be bothered, you put up a front, walked with purpose, and kept a look on your face like, "leave me the hell alone" Worked for me just fine.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
They don't respond all that well to civilians with guns over here. Or anyone with guns, really. :(
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Oh I know...

I remember the police at Schiphol walking the terminal and watching for any suspicious weirdness.

I was pulled aside and interviewed twice in an hour the last time waiting to fly away from Amsterdam to Paris.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
They wouldn't recognise suspicious if it was dancing the jig naked in front of them wearing a neon hat, waving a magic wand and singing the My Little Pony theme. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
LFL

This was a few years back...I remember they carried short nose automatics.

Probably Uzi's...

The Carbonari down in Italy were packing too, I don't think they knew how to pull the bolt back on their shoulder weapons tho.

They always wanted to fiddle with the gate guards M-16s at our secure site at Aviano.
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
A teen should know how to use a smartphone. But they should at least be given the opportunity. You can always take it away if they act irresponsibly.

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[Off-topic] bbrad:
I don't get this I have a smartphone I'm 14 I've rooted my android put a custom ROM on it everything and I never act irresponsible with it I play some games on it try to bump up performance and use bit for emergencies not all teens are the same I think if there mature enough they deserve one
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Do you need it?
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Yep I do schoolwork on it manage things. Entertain my little sister with it and use it to call
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Need. Would you die without it?
[Off-topic] bbrad:
No but I fail school considering I carry my document on my phone and then print them out at school do you want me to fail school? If so shame on you
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Fool me once, strike 1. But fool me twice... Strike 3.
[Off-topic] bbrad:
I don't give a crap about strikes are you just trolling me?
[Off-topic] Ssammoh:
Nobody "needs" a smartphone tbh.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Well, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates dropped out of school and look where they are now ;)
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
You mean losing money?
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
The way the world is these days, teens needs some sort of phone, smartphone or not... legal driving age is either 15 or 16 in US states, wouldn't you like to get in contact with them?
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
They can pull over and use a payphone?
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Do those even exist anymore?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
They do in Cleveland.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
All of ours got shutdown, because of drug deals going down at gas stations...
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
In Cleveland, the police are the drug dealers. :rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Yes, the rare and elusive payphone is known to still exist in the wild. They are a shy and reclusive. Only possible to spot them at night, with night vision. Do not dare try to kill one, they are a protected species.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
It's just as corrupt in Jackson... the surrounding areas are very nice, upscale places to live... I'm in one of those... The corruption in jackson goes all the way to the top... The city is in shambles, and deteriorating to nothing...

But back on topic... say you have a 14yr old kid, cant drive, and allow her to date a 15yr old who can... wouldnt you want to be in contact with them? and also, there are apps, that track them, requiring it to be a smartphone... Sure when, I was 15, the only phone choice was the bag phone, but it's different now, and I think any child, or teen, who is going to be away from their parents for a set period of time needs a phone... and with the subsidized contracts, and deals with the carriers, smartphones are the way to go...
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Nahh

Just get them prepaid

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[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
When a 14 year old is dating a 15 year old something is wrong.
[Off-topic] bbrad:
I got a feeling this guys not very bright
[Off-topic] InfinityFTW:
Lets put it this way: i'm 14, born in 98. And lets say i date a girl who is 15, and born in 98. But she was born in February, and me in July. What's wrong with that?

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[Off-topic] Kronosthelordoftime:
There's nothing wrong at all.

To the topic, while phones just to track the child are, in my opinion, wrong, teens can be taught how to use phone in a clever way to help themselves in a million different ways. I know I'd give my child a phone when the time comes. And teach them to use it sensibly. Cheers :D
[Off-topic] Faiz Malkani:
RIP English :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
The topic is do teens NEED a smartphone. Being a former teen and never using one while being one and turning out just fine, shows a teen does not NEED one.

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[Off-topic] pyroemaniac:
Do you need a car? Do you need clothes? Do you need a store to buy food? Do you need heating in your house? Do you need a house? Do you need eating utensils? Do you need a tooth brush? Do you need to take a shower? Do you need sex? Do you need toilet paper? I could continue but I feel I'm begging to be redundant :rolleyes:

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Do you as an adult, need a smart phone?
[Off-topic] bbrad:
I wish I could give you a billion thanks
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
As an adult, i don't need one. I work with a lot of grown men, who don't have one. They are doing just fine

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[Off-topic] bbrad:
Then why don't we create a thread on how adults don't need one shall we :confused:
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
The only things I need is food, water shelter and to take care of my family. A smartphone is not a necessity for any of these. If you do feel you do, you got some real problems. :rolleyes:

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OK, go ahead, I'm cool with that.

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[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Well now I think i need phone for sensible uses i guess? I use it to go to dictionary.com to help me do my vocabulary homework so i dont have to use my computer and neither the big dictionary. Im basically saying that i use my phone sometimes to help me in my studies like homework projects etc.
[Off-topic] pyroemaniac:
I'm trying to show you that your question is ridiculous, of course teens don't need a smartphone. The only thing anyone needs is nutrition to keep you alive, oxygen and a climate that is survivable. Other than that everything is a want.

So in other words your question is a bit gratuitous :p

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One will do :D
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
Well aren't you a nice person?

My point is that 14 is young to be dating.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
So we both agree.

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[Off-topic] bbrad:
This thread is pointless all it is is adults and teens fighting it just needs locked
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I get a feeling you're an idiot not very bright. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] loc_luke:
Teens that require the services a smartphone provides deserve them. But teens that think everything should be handed to them on a platter and abuse their expensive phones don't deserve a single thing. BTW I am a teen and I don't have a smartphone and won't get one unless I have to pay for one myself
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
Amen.

I agree completely.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
I wish all teens were as level headed as you. :good:

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[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
I am right here. :D
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Sadly that 'clever way' is usually limited to drunk pictures and duckfaces on Facebook.... :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Kronosthelordoftime:
Yup. Sigh. I never will understand the current generation while being a part of it.

may Thor free their souls xD

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[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Man just say it u adults dont have that much income to give ur children the smartphones! U adults dont deserve a smartphone u guys only need nokia 3310!
[Off-topic] pyroemaniac:
When I was a teen (two years ago) I paid for my own cell phones the entire time I had them. My parents are extremely well off by the way. Your self entitled altitude along with your terrible grammar make teens look bad :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
LOL I paid for all my phones until 13 my parents bought me this phone!
[Off-topic] pyroemaniac:
You paid for your phones until you were thirteen? With what job might I ask.
[Off-topic] bbrad:
There's a number of things you can do. Yard work, computers, ect.
[Off-topic] -Falco:
I have a developer on my device (galaxy s2 t989) who started developing at 12. Smartphones don't make teens dumber, it actually makes some smarter. I started coming here at 16.

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[Off-topic] ironman38102:
No not a job but my dad always gives me some cash whenever i go school so ill go to canteen and eat my food. Instead of eating my food I would save it but I became tired of doing it so many years.
[Off-topic] Kronosthelordoftime:
That's nice. I know a person who saved up enough to buy a Nexus 7 and an S lll. If teens do that, it also gives them a sense of value for money and makes them a bit more responsible.

If you're a worried parent, get them an Android phone and let them on XDA. Knowledge goldmine here XD
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
true mate! Now Im collecting money for next phone which i will buy after 2 years! Enough time to collect money!
[Off-topic] TheNoticer:
AW: Why Teens Don't Need a Smartphone

Hahaha this topic is BS. My parents bough me an Ipod and i sell and bought now I got a SAMSUNG galaxy Note. Yeah they don't need it but if you want your kids are getting kicked and mobbed by some other teens its your fault. And every parent wants his child happy.
[Off-topic] dilster97:
This HTC is my first smartphone which I bought for £480 at carphone warehouse last year.

Took a while to save for it, but its worth it.

The O2 XDA was given to me by a teacher at school who didn't need it anymore and I needed something to replace my broken Sony Ericsson W810i.

HTC One X Viper X 3.3.5

Backup: O2 XDA IIs WM 4.21
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Happy, yes, spoiled, hell no.

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[Off-topic] Kronosthelordoftime:
Woah! I admire your determination! I spend my money if I save it long enough :P
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
I pay for all my phones man. The only phone I didn't pay for is this one which was a birthday gift from my dad

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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Lol@logic of the undeveloped brain.

I used to be the facility manager of a large distribution warehouse (which I launched from the ground up), and needed a device I could use not just for calls, texts, but also email from multiple accounts, taking photos of product damage and sending it to corporate, editing documents, tracking shipments, all while rarely ever being at my desk and not affording the time to run bank to my desk to handle every issue. I NEEDED the capability in my pocket, much more then any teen.

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Yes, I see it now. You teens do need a smartphone. Classic phones don't have a spellchecker, and for most of you it is a miracle if you manage to spell one word correctly. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] Faiz Malkani:
Aaaaaaand the Best Trolololo of the week goes to.....:p
[Off-topic] sy224048:
Me, for not thinking of that comment first. :D
[Off-topic] gallardo5:
Odp: Why Teens Don't Need a Smartphone

I just HAD to reply to this thread. Teens dont need smartphone. I'm 19 atm, and I got my first smartphone three years ago. Before that I was using few Sony Ericssons, not smart phones at all. And I could live with that. It was calling, texting etc, and that was all I needed. Smartphones make life easier, also for teens, but are not needed to life.

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[Off-topic] Synopsis:
Would you? Why do adults need a smartphone? Why do you need a smartphone? I'm a teen and I use it for rather productive reasons.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I don't have one, and I'm just fine. When I get my license this year, I might need a regular phone, but not a smart phone.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
I work with a 25 yr young man. He isn't even interested in a cell phone, let alone a smartphone. Says he simply don't need one. I kinda envy him.

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[Off-topic] Kronosthelordoftime:
Cell phones can be used very productively with brains. It's subjective, actually. Can't say it's useless for everyone