yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] blue blue man:
If you are on budget, Flyer is a good choice. You can't expect it to have uptodate software or fancy things like window view in galaxy notes but the price/productivity can't be beat. And so far, this is the only mobile size 7inch tablet with stylus in the market. Even if Samsung release a 7 inch note in the future, it will be expensive.

I like my Flyer very much. It is the best personal electronic device that I have ever bought, although sometimes I wish it had SamsungNote software and small stylus. Btw imo, Samsung devices usually do not look good.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] EnPaceRequiescat:
Thanks guys for all the comments! From what it seems the hardware definitely is quite out of date, and that the flyer is really only worth it if I make good use of the pen. I guess my media consumption is light (casual youtube, hulu, skype), so hopefully the hardware won't give me issues. For those of you for whom the flyer/view was good for productivity, how do you guys make use of the pen?

@rickwood, what did you originally intend to use the pen for? Was the pen not smooth enough for your intended uses?

Also, how would the flyer/view fare for connecting to a keyboard and remote desktopping/ssh'ing, in case I'm checking on some code on the fly?

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eastway11:
In my case, I usually use the pen when I take notes in class everyday. I'm using the app LectureNotes, PDFView(for pdf import to LectureNotes) and LectureRecodings(for recording with taking notes).

using :

HTC Flyer ICS yetki

HTC Desire MIUI ICS
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] gersto:
The hardware is definitely old but i have used it for numerous task, including media and games. Many "HD" games work great (and no i'm not just talking about Angry Birds, heh)

i've used Skype and Youtube and no issues with HC on those fronts. Never used Hulu Plus and Netflix seems to work fine, slight stutter here and there though.

I've used DicePlayer for playing videos loaded on the tablet and works great with the built-in hardware acceleration up to 720p HD movies.

I've tried using remote desktop, had 2X, and my job uses Citrix, they are "useful" but i think the 7" screen hinders that use more than it helps. It's good for a quick check but productivity-wise may be cumbersome to use. Having a bluetooth keyboard & mouse does help, but the screen real estate is more the issue, at least to me.

The tablet is definitely capable.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rickwood:
I thought I'd use the pen for light note taking. On paper, I write really small. On the View, for some reason I had a hard time doing this - - all my text came out really big. Not sure if this was due to the small size of the pen, the resolution of the tablet, or the fact that I was using a compatible Fujitsu pen rather than a true HTC pen. In any case, I wasn't pleased with how my notes were turning out, so I rarely use the pen anymore.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] blue blue man:
The most useful feature for me is annotating PDF files. I use Repligo app. Another trick is that you can convert Power point (or whatever) files into PDFs and annotate them. I can't find any good app to annotate Word files. Foxit Viewer comes with the Flyer is useless.

I also use the pen for taking handwriting notes. I use Quill (you can get it for free here: http://code.google.com/p/android-quill/downloads/list), and HandyNote. But I'm reducing this load because it is difficult to search the content of handwriting text (with out handwriting recognition). And it's not easy to copy/paste them to other docs. That's not good for my purpose of tracking/reorganizing the notes later. But there are some app for handwriting recognition such as WritePad. Maybe they are good if one practices enough. :)

In addition, I guess the pen is very useful for people who enjoy drawing.

About the Flyer's competitors from price/(pen)productivity aspect, I don't see any at this point. Maybe there will be some in a year or two. MS Surface is promising but it will take time till the app support from the developers get to an adequate level with Android. Or maybe Apple will start to adopt real stylus and keep suing all Android OEMs, who knows.. :)

I hope it helps.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] baz909:
Couldnt agree more and glad I got my for christmas

Expansys.ie were doing good deals on them, less than 250euro, which is one of the cheapest places I've seen them retail for new
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Simple, the flyer is a capable device that was thrown to the side immediately after release. It performs well enough to be functional at most task but does little great. For me it is a better device than a nexus 7 because the nexus is stripped of allot of functionality the flyer has. If you want to be up to date with software do not consider this device. If you are looking for a small screen tablet that is versatile this is probably still the best option although I have not spent much time with the galaxy tab 2.7

A frustrating device for me because I enjoy its abilities but miss the tweaking custom rom aspect of a device that has good after sale development from the OEM

Flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] EnPaceRequiescat:
Ah, thank you guys so much for all the good input! I think I'm gonna try for the flyer -- seems like a good budget way to try things, particularly the pen. I'm hoping that I can start to use it as a scratchpad of sorts, in addition to reading scanned notes (I write large so hopefully the 7" screen is adequate even when my writing gets shrunk). The lack of usb otg (at least, without an external power source) is a slight shame, but hopefully i'll be able to live without via bluetooth and the cloud.

Also, I didnt know that the Flyer could be used as a phone! Is this through 3G VoIP, or does it actually have a cell radio?

Happy new years guys!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freworld:
Both

Then you indeed missed a major function of this beast. Through 3g Voip as well as Cell radio ;)

Happy new year to u too. Get yourself a gift :p

P.S. USB OTG issue is also a minor gripe... exact situation is being discussed here ( with possible options including USB -Y cable)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1082909
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
I would not recommend spending your money on any tablet or smartphone device that is over 20 months old. The specs are not even last gen, they are 2 generations old.

That said, there isn't much better in the 7" form factor. I love the 7" tablet size. But unfortunately, the manufacturers have relegated this size to the budget/low-spec end of the spectrum. Mostly thanks to the low priced Kindle Fire HD and Nexus 7. And Samsung has joined the "race to the bottom" with its mediocre spec'ed Galaxy Tab2 7.0. The technology of smartphones has left 7" tablets in the dust, its such a shame.

Unless the pen functionality is really important to you (I personally never use it on the Flyer) I'd probably go for the Nexus 7. Yes, its missing some big features. But its simply much better supported by both its manufacturer and the dev community. This forum has become quiet as the grave. So you won't even get much of a community here to chat with or get help if you want to root and S-Off, flash ROMs, etc. Yes, there are still a few devs that soldier on, and other community members still trying to keep this forum alive. But the Flyer's best days are long gone.

I don't regret a bit buying the Flyer when it first came out way back in the summer of 2011. And I still use it every day. But if I didn't already have the Flyer, I wouldn't buy one now. Probably I would get a Nexus 7, wait to see how good the 7" Note is, or wait to see if any higher spec 7" tablets are on the way (doubtful).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] icevapor:
I agree with most that has been said. If you want/need the pen and want 7"... get a flyer/evo view. I have a view and use it almost daily for writing. I always had notepads and sticky notes all over the place, now its all within lecturenotes (sweet app).

If you think you'll "maybe" use the pen... get a nexus or other 7".

I use the crap out of the pen and am looking to get another flyer/view for a friend as a gift.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Only if you really need the pen should you consider the GTab 7 2 or HTC Flyer. Having played with both I think the better option now is the Samsung model. But again, only if you really need the pen. If you can live with a capcitive stylus go with a Nexus 7. It will be supported for a long time to come and will always be on the latest OS
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] EnPaceRequiescat:
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Hmm, the galaxy tab2 7? Doesn't that only use the capacitive pen? also, it seems like i can't find that secondhand anywhere, and new costs $200, so I feel I might as well get the nexus7 if I'm foregoing the digitizer.

I'm also the kind of person who had notepads and sticky notes all over the place, and notes involve math that say, swype is not good for (though it is quite fast), which is why the digitizer is a big draw. But from the comments people are giving, and how fast technology is moving, it seems like it's almost better nowadays to just buy new (so... the samsung note7 whenever that comes out), just like how I can't imagine buying secondhand computers these days.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcmaster81:
hello, i bought my flyer last week. my acer a101 tegra 2, (3g, no phone calls, price new today is around 200euro) is been broken. i bought last year 4 android devices, acer, se arc s, galaxy s2, galaxy ace and for a friend a sony xperia s and an se arc s in black and galaxy s2 gversion, too. i flashed them all with different custom rom or stock based customs. acer is broken in a car crash :(

so now the phones still by me for a month for test firmware issues, progs etc.. this is a little hobby for me, no programing, development or else. i like to flash and modding. so i have test many phones and tabs last year.

my list bevor i searched for a new device and find the flyer

phone + 7zoll screen - tell me a good another tab or phone, there is no one.

gps

cam for snapshots

bluetooth for stereo headset

now i bought a flyer, i see it in a "an und verkauf" shop over a half year long. i never have a htc bevor. and... smile.. alu full body. battery replacment is no problem for when the time is come for it. turn it on. and smile number two. android 2.3 and what a speed, speed i ui, in internet, gps lock in seconds. after a while, absolut stable 3g(i turned to 2g most of time, tasker dual switch internet data+2g3g toggle)

after a few days, i flashed a custom rom, test a few days, update to honeycomb, test..test.. now i stay on maxdroid128 based 2.3.4, because phone function. who no phone functions can better use 3.+ because fully pen working. this is what i miss in 2.3.4 for sketchbook.

i love my flyer, speed is enough for gaming, too. new 3d games. i underclock and oc with profiles, and undevolt. battery is extrem. is smooth extrem, the xperia s is a thick better.

and a fine joke is when you sit in a cafe, the first people, iphone4, the second has a galaxy s3 and another at the bar sit with a note2. every people in know what devices they are. NOW your flyer ring! i open my bag, see the picture of my girlfriend and make a touch at my headset.

because i have the flyer in my hand, shortly check emails etc. and now the faces of the people:confused:, he phones... it is big screen :), its style, it has a camera. i smile and draw a little picture.

i love my flyer :D
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadches:
Hi everyone.

when i install a launcher for example Go Launcher or Next launcher, i put some widgets on it. after i reboot my device all the widgets become broken and it says

Problem Loading Widget

i tried 3 Roms and the result was the same

can somebody help me please?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mayank77:
Maybe because you installed widgets on the SD card.

when you reboot , widgets are loaded before SD card is fuly mounted. Hence broken widgets.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadches:
So how can I fix it?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playjun:
install it on phone.(internal)

just a tip if you like.try to use link2sd:)

minimum edition
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadches:
ok I do but if we want to have a widget from an app we must install it on phone memory don't we??

so how do widgets go to External memory?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadches:
I installed link2SD but I didn't find out how move widgets to phone memory..

Can you explain more?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mayank77:
Always install Widgets , Live wallpapers etc in the internal memory. Widgets may go to external memory if the default memory location is set to external. You may change this setting in cyanogenmod settings-->application

you can move by going to settings-->applications-->manage applications --> SD Card

Untick to move to internal memory.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hadches:
txn. the apps are on the internal memory but their widget become broken
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] r7r8:
Is it possible to port the Note 2 multi window feature for Live with Walkman or other Xperia MDPI phones?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] predatOr:
You know we have phone with 3-3.2" screen...

Using 2 multi windows... Splits them in half...

And half is really really small:D

And multi windows is not fully functional on many phones yet... So developing is a long shot
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
I am not sure, if MDPI have ported version of Xperia Small Apps, Arc (S) do have it ported.
[Acer Iconia A500] hlaalu:
So I've been trying to figure this out for days (actually since I bought this thing when it first came out), and I can't. I'm currently on stock rooted ics. All I want to do is transfer a video from my phone (galaxy nexus) to my a500 using the USB port.

Is this even possible and how? Cause for the life of me I can't figure it out. Tried about every file manager out there and nothing.

Oh and Merry Christmas
[Acer Iconia A500] metpolds:
@hlaalu..... I don't claim to be an expert in these matters but you might consider the following steps.

1. What format is your video file?... Are you certain it is compatible?

2. Are you certain that you have full root?...Any of the "root" File Managers will transfer the file provided your root is correct.

3. If you are connecting your Nexus direct to your A500 are you certain that you have correct drivers installed so that they see each other?

4. What I'm about to suggest is convoluted and time consuming but I'm pretty certain it will solve your problem although I'm certain others can suggest a better and more structured solution... (a) Copy the file to your PC from your Nexus... (b) Then copy the file from your PC to a usb thumb drive... (c) Then insert the usb thumb drive into your A500 and use a rooted File Manager to copy the file from ...../mnt/usb_storage..... to either your ...../mnt/external_sd ..... or any folder location you wish on your A500.

As I've said it's not pretty but it should work for you.

:D
[Acer Iconia A500] hlaalu:
Yeah everything is rooted, and video files are compatible as I recorded them and played them on my phone. When you say I need the correct drivers, can you point me in the right direction?

So far the only way is to go phone > computer > tab
[Acer Iconia A500] metpolds:
@hlaalu..... I think the simplest transfer is by using your PC. You've said it... NEXUS>PC>A500

Don't know whether this will work but you might try the following tip *** Make certain you have enabled USB Storage on both the Nexus and the A500 ***

This link should take you to Acer's page for USB drivers

http://support.acer.com/us/en/default.aspx
[Acer Iconia A500] taodan:
You can transfer files between the two devices using Bluetooth. Don't know how big of the size of your video so test it out.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
This is the thread to share what new phone/tablets or gadget accessories you got for Christmas!
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Get us started then Oly :good:
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
an abacus :good:
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
I went to get a Note 2, but they didn't have any grey one's left. Only White and Blue. So it was a no-go.
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Notihn took fancy on the tech side. I got a new extended battery for my S2, a new case for my tablet, and a keyboard built into a case :)

Also this is the £49 tablet.

Cheers!
[Off-topic] 85gallon:
We Moto RAZR owners got JB OTA in an accidental (and brief) leak from Motorola yesterday. But people were able to snag the file.:D I know what I'll be doing later today!!

Merry Christmas!!!!
[Off-topic] veeman:
Nothing.

Sent from my Nexus 7

Stop... MUFFIN TIME!!!
[Off-topic] -Falco:
Vizio co-star

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Samsung galaxy s2

Rom: Jedi knight 6

kernel: Jedi kernel 2

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And you thought celebrities weren't smart! =P
[Off-topic] VaderSKN:
Nexus 7 :D
[Off-topic] LordManhattan:
No gadgets this year.
[Off-topic] ArmorD:
An electric razor

Sent from my premium leather sofa
[Off-topic] gorcorps:
Posting from the new Nexus 7. Ever since they released a 32gig version I've wanted one.

Also bought myself a galaxy s3 just before the holidays too.
[Off-topic] tw1n5nak35:
Me neither, next year maybe?
[Off-topic] ArcticFish:
Nexus 7 32gb with a treegloo case(I'm gonna have to pay part for this expensive case -_-)

Sent from my Zapped SGH-T989 using Supercharged Blinky's Revenge
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
non for me but my lil man got a 3ds but he still likes his droid better :laugh:
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Bought myself a Cisco EA6500, combined my bday and christmas for a 2nd Samsung 830 512gb SSD, and a $30 best buy gift card for a 2.5" USB HD enclosure...
[Off-topic] slow_DC4:
Got myself an evga 660, and a new psu which should get here by Thursday.
[Off-topic] ak700:
Nexus 4 and Far Cry 3!
[Off-topic] nikufellow:
Casio 991ms - scientific calc
[Off-topic] lowandbehold:
Nexus 7 for my 6 year old daughter!
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
:)

Just a battery powered Christmas card here.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
My Father in law and I popped to Tescos this morning and bought one of those £49 tablets each, pretty impressed so far, although we can't remove the Google Maps shortcut from the desktop, and Skype insists on using the headphone socket rather than the speaker, but it's brilliant for the price!
[Off-topic] olyloh6696:
Hey,

Yeah, I agree with you about the price, but haven't checked the other issues!

My brother has been experiencing multi touch problems when zooming in on web pages etc, it doesn't seem to be very responsive. Can you confirm this please?
[Off-topic] xaccers:
Pinch zooming is fine, the screen doesn't seem as slippy as say most gorilla glass type devices I've used, and if you try flicking a web page it doesn't fly ahead like my sensation for instance. I've noticed if I slowly drag my finger down the a web page on the camera end of the screen it sometimes zooms in, but pinching and tapping works fine.

The camera seems very slow, it's not great quality at all but it does the job.

There is a problem with the launcher where the Maps icon doesn't want to be removed.

I've tried a few things and it's sort of gone leaving an empty folder icon there after a reboot unless I tap on and off it.

Wifi wasn't turning back on properly (showed as on but no networks in range) after going to sleep, so I've changed the setting to never turn wifi off and that's sorted it.

Skype audio output during a call goes to the headphone socket and I've yet to find a way around this.

There's a thread in the Archos G9 section regarding rooting it, someone said they'll be trying CM10.
[Off-topic] NightHawk877:
I got a Nexus 10 from my uncle. Got the bootloader unlocked and am running AOKP on it.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Off-topic] veeman:
Awesome! How do you like it?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Off-topic] NightHawk877:
Love it.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Nothing.

a.k.a. Josepho1997
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
I got the gift of disappointment.
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Based on Oly's recommendation in the HTC forum, I got one of these for my son. It's mainly for him to play games or read books on and is perfect for that, but I wouldn't want one for myself to use daily.

All the above issues ... installed a different launcher as I couldn't clear the maps icon either. Not a perfect device, but for the price it's ideal for what I wanted.

If I was buying for myself I'd rather spend four times the price and get a nexus 7 though.
[Off-topic] xaccers:
I'm still hoping for a Nexus 7 3G for my birthday.

I can't justify spending out on one while I've got a crappy iPad 3 from work.

The Cobalt is decent enough and a new launcher helps.
[Off-topic] _Variable:
The very thing i sent this from.
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
A Galaxy Tab 2? Nice present Ella :good:
[Off-topic] _Variable:
thanks. Im selling lg optimus me for $300. want it?
[Off-topic] SimonTS:
Are you going to pay my flights to collect it? :p

I'm quite happy with my LG 4X HD and Nexus 7 combination thank you.
[Off-topic] Lockett:
I also didn't get any good tech gadgets but I did get some good ol' cash. I'm debating on using it towards a Note 2.
[Off-topic] BartxGamer:
I got on christmas an iPad 2 16 Gigabytes and smart case :D Last christmas >_>

but on this year christmas i got blouse and sweets :)
[Off-topic] gallardo5:
HTC ONE X, and so happy with it :D

I remember how happy I was that few years ago when I got an old SE k700i for Christmas.. ahh, who would know then that we will have pc in our phone by now:rolleyes:

Send from my HTC One X.

POOOLSKAAAA BIALOOOO CZEEERWONIIIII!!!!!
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
iHome IC50 Android Speaker/Charging dock.
[Off-topic] :
Not similar to this but i got the akai mpk 49 midi controller :)

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9100G mit Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] BretonGirl:
I got the Nexus 7 32GB :)
[Off-topic] _HIM_:
a lot of stuff for my canon dslr :good:
[Off-topic] boborone:
Santa brought me:

And Pirates brought me:

I would have been happy with just:

But I've been extra good this year ;)
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
*insert blank image*

We don't do Christmas :p But I did get a company Christmas pack with a bottle of wine and a pack of nougat :) And a stapler, if that counts as a gadget :p

Bought myself an S3 a few weeks ago, but that came out of my Christmas bonus, so I suppose that counts :)
[Off-topic] BeerChameleon:
I got a nice Garmin GPS :D

I also got a jeep wrangler and today a nice stereo is going in it :D

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
i GOT A IPOD!!!111!! iPod Touch 2g to be exact! :)
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
I hate you! :mad:

...kidding of course.

Very nice score there!
[Off-topic] boborone:
haha actually whiskey is on my list every year, this year I didn't get any. I'm disappointed. Maybe for my birthday on the 2nd. And dude I've wanted a dslr for years, finally got one, so happy man.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Crown or V.O. is always on my list :cool:

I want a really good camera soooo bad...

poor me

:crying:
[Off-topic] FierceMist:
I got a Nexus 7 32GB.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Check out qvc.com. that's how I got my camera. They split it up into 5 credit card payments.
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Will do...I never stop to think about the deals they offer.

Dang near pressed the Amazon buy button for an Olympus EPM-1 a little while ago.

OK now lets see what that Canon can do!

(pressures on)

:o
[Off-topic] :
Galaxy Note 2
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Same. Sexy phone with the matching flip case.

-Easier than it sounds, harder than it looks.-
[Off-topic] boborone:
I got my package on clearance, but they still have the single lens kit T3i. But the Olympus is great if you don't want the dslr bulk. Just a slightly smaller sensor than the one in the rebel.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
I got TDK Trans-It 4GB Flash memory. what a disappoitment!
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
Late chrismass gift from my dad: xbox 360 slim holiday bundle; 250gb hdd, includes 2 controllers and forza 4, skyrim and a 1 month gold card. Greatest late gift ever :D

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9000 met Tapatalk
[Off-topic] Lostcats:
Galaxy Note 2
[Off-topic] Schoutse:
i didn't get anything!! :crying:

not even a little cheap iphone

poor me :(