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[HTC One X] cxxxdw:
Ive just updated to the latest hboot and thought the problem went away but it happened today, sigh. Not sure what it could be?
[HTC One X] SrebX:
Last bump before I give up on this...? :3
[HTC One X] kskendsup:
Just to try..have u tried converting songs to a different format other than mp3..? try that once and check...
[Asus Transformer TF700] jdbaker82:
Should my nexus 7 tablet be blowing it out of the water? Everything is much smoother om nexus 7 tablet then the infinity like butter compared to molasas? What's the deal
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
Because of poor i/o flash used in the tablet. Search this forum for the i/o thread(s) to get more of an idea.

A workaround is to use Browser2Ram, but the disadvantage is that you lose settings on a reboot. But it has been shown to be highly effective in speeding up browsing processes.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jdbaker82:
Wow really that's unbelievable I would have thought Asus would get the next tablet right after the borked the prime so hard. I guess it was a mistake giving them a second chance this is unacceptable.
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
For me, this is my first tablet period. I didn't have that experience to fall back on.

Still, though, overall, the tablet is nice. I just try to avoid browsing as much as possible. Not too had since I have a BIONIC on 4G lol
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
FYI - there is a newer version of Browser2RAM floating around that doesn't lose any settings on reboot... With Browser2RAM installed, the stock browser absolutely flies on the TF700. Also, make sure to go into the Debug settings in the stock browser and set the "Enable CPU upload path" - it also increases the speed of the stock browser.

I must say, after doing these 2 things, the stock browser is the fastest browser that I've ever experienced on any tablet - period.

Between the "CleanROM Inheritance" ROM and Browser2RAM, the TF700 is very fast - no complaints at all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
The latest update of browser2ram should addressed the "lose settings on a reboot" and it also suppose to work with Chrome also. Give it a try.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jdbaker82:
The whole point is that you should not have to root and modify your brand new 2012 tablet to experience smooth browsing they don't deserve my money ill be returning.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ghorin:
I'm not finding the link to last version of browser2ram apk file. Can someone give here the link please ? Thanks so much
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
In a perfect world, you are correct. But, as we all know, it's not a perfect world!

The "whole point" is that there simply is not another device on the market that can do what the TF700 can do (combining an awesome tablet with an awesome keyboard dock). Rooting and installing a custom ROM on the device is not hard and results in the best damn device that money can buy right now... It all depends on what you want to do - personally, I (and most other XDA users) would root and unlock ANY device we buy anyway, so for most XDA users, it's a moot point. Obviously, you are not that type of user...

If you don't need a keyboard dock, there are other (possibly better) options out there for you. Although, I must ask - if you are not interested in rooting and unlocking your device, why are you even on XDA to begin with? After all, that's what the XDA community is all about...

Any device that you buy is going to have some shortcomings - it's up to you to decide which device fits your needs the best. But, like I said, you simply won't find another device that can do what the TF700 can.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BULL3TPR00F:
this man has said it exactly like it is..

well put sir... well put :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Here you go bro.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yd3aqpeiy2m5wbn
[Asus Transformer TF700] jdbaker82:
I just wanted a bigger screen then the Nexus 7 to remote into my Desktop and be able to browse a pennyauction site Quibids. I am just saying its sad my Nexus 7 $249.99 does it better then a $699 Infinity I came here for answers and got it. Its sad that they would release a product with a I/O issue with junk flash that is all. :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
using a microSD

So I had picked up a few inexpensive sandisk microsd cards from amazon, 32GB and rated class 10. I did some quick symlinks of chrome's cache directory as well as flipboard's cache and databases directories to the microSD, and it's a world of difference. The apps are actually responsive and usable whereas before I wanted to throw my tablet through the wall. Once I'm back from my vacation I'll have to take a long look at moving more of the system to the external sdcard, and using a more native filesystem.
[Asus Transformer TF700] HeartWare42:
Could you elaborate on how you're doing this?

I have root, but is still locked.

Which programs did you use? What file system is the MicroSD formatted to? Which program did you format it with?
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
Good news. I just bought and installed a pair of 64 GB Sandisk UHS-1 micro SDCards in mine, so I might follow suit.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
This is purely a proof of concept to see if it would work. I used terminal IDE, but you could use something like adb shell, dropbear sshd or android terminal emulator to get a shell prompt. I also did nothing special with the SDcard, using the regular FAT format for the purposes of this exercise to prove to myself that I should strongly consider the data2sd solution.

1. Make sure the processes aren't running. Usually after a fresh reboot and without starting any other processes so they don't get cached.

2. Identify which directories I wanted to shift over to the external SD card. I know the directories are in /data/data/<APPSTRING>, so just need to find them. Chrome is com.android.chrome, and I don't recall what flipboard is off the top of my head. Once inside those app directories, I figured that cache was likely culprit for Chrome from looking at the browser2ram code on github. When I checked flipboard I saw both a cache and databases directory which likely contained sqlite files.

3. Create the corresponding directories on the SDcard in the /Removable/MicroSD/data/<APPSTRING>/cache (or databases for flipboard).

4. Rename the original from /data/data/<APPSTRING>/cache to cache1, then created a symlink with 'ln -s' to the newly created external directory.

5. Copy via 'cp -r' (recursive) all the files from the original to the symlink. Start the apps and see if there's a noticable difference.

This isn't a permanent solution, but I just wanted to confirm for myself whether it would improve the application experience, and justify the time expense for making my external SD card permanently part of the OS via data2sd.

I could create a shell script that you could run as root if you're interested, but only have tablet access right now (on vacation).
[Asus Transformer TF700] stevessvt:
Curious, I just bought the TF700 yesterday, it has 2 browsers on it, right? Does this effect both browsers?
[Asus Transformer TF700] DROIDESP:
Totally agree, especially at this price point.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
If it's IO contention with cache write access to the internal memory, then yes it will affect both browsers since their cache is on the same data device. The browser2ram program will link the cache directory for both applications (native browser and chrome) to the tmpfs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
d01100100, so what is your proposal different from data2sd mod? or link2sd app (move app and cache to sd and use symbol link)??
[Asus Transformer TF700] lucius.zen:
Dudes, I work at computer store, after installing CleanROM and browser2RAM this thing is faster than ipad4, nexus7, and nexus10. The whole point of buying android is so that you can tweak everything to your liking. I am actually super surpised with this tablet, I have dropped it soooo many times directly onto concrete and she is barely scratched, someone at my store dropped a new ipad and it stopped working immediately. Unlock, root, install a custom ROM, disable fsync, install browser2RAM, this tablet is better all around than anything I have ever sold, not to mention it is thin, light, and sexy as ****. Browsing lag is easily fixed, and I have never experienced UI lag since Jelly Bean, there are too many other benefits of having this tablet to even consider a crappy plastic Nexus 7/10.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
As I previously wrote, I used 30 seconds to implement a quick and dirty hack to confirm the result (faster application responsiveness) was worth the additional effort of repartitioning my sdcard via data2sd. This isn't a permanent solution, but a trial.

It was also to confirm to me that flipboard didn't suck, but the lack of application response was purely due to IO contention with the internal memory. I'm on vacation now, so I don't have access to a computer and have been using my tablet quite a bit. If it wasn't for extensive use of the tablet this vacation I don't think I would've been as annoyed with the tablet's sluggish behavior.

All I did was replace the cache and sqlite database directories for 2 applications and I already felt a significant return. Going further and replacing the entire application /data directory with an ext4 formatted partition on the sdcard should provide an even better result. Once I get back home I'll implement the data2sd solution.
[Asus Transformer TF700] buhohitr:
Oh, ok, I thought you have something different from data2sd. I'm running data2sd right now and it does make the apps running smoother.
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
It's similar in concept that doesn't require all the prepwork. I took a quick look at what browser2ram did, then I checked the mount point generated. Instead of doing a binding mount of the browser/chrome cache directory to tmpfs, I just shifted it over to my external SD card. It works through reboots and app updates (I saw a flipboard update today) and will last me until I get back home this weekend.

I've known about the data2sd method, but the effort involved outweighed my perceived benefit. I've been running root, stock and unlocked with a nvflash waiting just in case I went to be adventurous later. Certain apps were annoying me this trip, and I wanted to check to see whether it was the app or the tablet. Now I know the facebook app just sucks, but everyone else was raving about flipboard and my browsing was driving me nuts. Now I know it's the tablet... but yeah facebook still sucks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] htcplussony:
jdbaker82, I can't believe u thought the infinity lag and i/o wise was any better than the prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acme99:
I wanted to test this... I did it for Flipboard, looks like it helps a bit. But I can't do it for Chrome, the cache directory is always in use, and I can't rename it. How did you get around this? I tried rebooting and the directory is always in use, even though I didn't launch Chrome... :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
I didn't have any issues with renaming the directory. You can first attempt to do this 2 ways. Go into manage apps first and force quit the chrome process. You can then check to see if the chrome process is running in the command line, a 'ps -ef' check should see if any com.android.chrome processes are running and you can manually kill them via the kill command.

If you don't mind clearing you local data, you can clear the local data while you're doing a force quit. This'll likely make it so you don't need to copy as much data (hopefully). I was able to rename the directory with no issues as root within the shell.

Rename, relink, copy and then delete the old directory once done.

Typing this from an airport, so I can get into more details and/or confirm once I get back home later tonight.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acme99:
That's weird. I can't find out what process is using that folder. There's no com.android.chrome process running. And I tried to find out what process was using it with lsof, it's not listed. I'm a bit rusty with Linux, it's been more than 10 years since I really played with it, so I'm probably missing something... :(
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
Had I known this I would have got an iPad.

The Transformer Prime had a multitude of issues, from no GPS to piss-poor Wifi reception.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Oh boy, here we go again.... Please, return the TF700 and get the iPad - save us all from reading more posts like this...

Truth is, the TF700 is wayyyy better than the iPad, if you know how to tweak it. If you are unable (or unwilling) to do that, then yes, go for the iPad and start complaining in their forums (because after all, there is no perfect tablet out there)!
[Asus Transformer TF700] d01100100:
What you're describing doesn't sound like a typical unix style directory. It sounds more like a mount point.

Typically unix doesn't care if you want to rename a directory unless you've got a filesystem mounted on top of it.

If you've installed browser2ram, this makes /data/data/com.android.chrome/cache into a binding mountpoint for tmpfs and you won't be able to rename it.

If you type mount at the prompt, is it listed? If so, you'll want to umount it and disable browser2ram. This should relinquish the OS ownership of this directory. If you were using browser2ram, I doubt you'll see a major improvement, but for me this alternate solution was to confirm whether it was an app or IO that was slow and pretty much convince me that I should switch to data2sd.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
Here's my view on you guy's jerry-rig fix on improving the Infinity's performance, if it was an acceptable solution, why isn't ASUS backing this instead of offering no solution.

Why is ASUS saying you'll void your warranty on your Infinity if you try this.

Hell son if I could take my Infinity back to Best Buy to swap it like I was able to do with my Prime I'd do it in a heart beat.

I/O slowness is much harder to call a defect for manufacture warranty than it was for the no GPS and piss-poor Wifi of the Transformer Prime.

and don't act like you wouldn't pick up an iPad 4 if you had the opportunity too. I bet everybody on this forum would trade their Transformer Infinity's and docks for full credit return.

Unfortunately we're just stuck with the BS we got, and so we are free to express are God given duty to complain about our tablet's wonky performance.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
So, why didn't you just return the TF700 during it's initial return period if it was so bad? Did it really take that long to determine that you couldn't figure out how to make it run to it's potential?

And by the way, "son", as you put it (since you are "the game master", I can only assume that you truly are a young one), I *can* afford an iPad 4 if I'd like, but I wouldn't touch it - I had an iPad - I fell for their marketing once. Then I realized the true power of Android. I would venture to bet that 95% of the folks on this forum are more than happy with their purchase - just read the posts in the CleanROM forum. I'm not "stuck" with anything - this is *the* device to have currently (especially if you want a keyboard dock) - something that the iPad just doesn't offer.

You can call it want you want ("jerry-rig"), but truth is it'll run laps around the iPad... There are users on here that have compared it. If you don't like your TF700, then sell it (again, ever hear of ebay?) and move on - no amount of complaining will help if you are unwilling to take our suggestions to make it run to it's potential.

Good luck!
[Asus Transformer TF700] acme99:
I would never trade my Infinity for an iPad. I had one, together with an iPhone. Now I own 3 Android devices (GS3, GT2 7" and Infinity). Apple can go to hell. I will never go back.

And please, sell your tab on ebay, get an iPad, and go have fun with your toys. I don't even understand why you are here in the first place...

Yes, that was it. Thanks... I didn't realize that Browser2RAM was doing that. So there's no point... I did as you described for Flipboard though. It's better... But my card isn't very fast, I don't think it's a class 10...
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
I'll take you up on that bet. Right now. $1000 sound good?

I don't take a bet unless I am assured of winning, btw....

I bought the 64 GB model new, the T201 rebranded as the TF700 dock brand new, both at retail prices, just added a pair of 64 GB UHS-1 Micro SDCards, and I've ought numerous apps and games since purchasing the tablet. I'm pretty sure I'm right there with you on being able to afford it. And I'm *positive* that I would never do so.

>:) Hence my willingness to take that bet. you and I, for sure, aren't returning this tablet even for a full refund. Pretty much negates all users being willing to do so.

^ this, too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ghorin:
I have an iPhone, my dad has an iPad 4 (which i configured as he is a total noob) and believe me i would never replace my android tab by an iPad 4. Yes the iPad is beautiful and fast but for same price my infinity has an extra dock with extra battery and usb/sd plugs. My dad had to buy several usb, sd adapters. But more important, after playing with my dad's iPad 4 during about 4 hours i found out that i was bored and nothing more to do with it. On my android, i can constantly modify/improve the way i use it to fully stick with my new desires.

Nb : when my iPhone is broken, i will replace it by an android phone
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
I was just using iPad as an alternate tablet I rather have at the moment as it works right out of the box.

A tablet I really want is a Windows 8 Surface Pro tablet.

Initially had my eyes on the ASUS Tablet 810 (VivoTab) but knowing ASUS it might have a design flaw, so a Surface Pro maybe the way to go, or maybe the new DELL XPS 12.

I don't see how any of you could blindly kiss the Transformer Infinity's defections.

You can hardly have a normal web surf without encountering a website that Chrome or the Stock Browser, or one of the alts Boat & Aurora cannot display properly.

Deal with constantly sluggishness, unexplainable fast battery draining, and lack of compatible apps.

Then there's the whole wifi limitation where this device doesn't even have a full Wireless N card where you will only get 65 Mbit network connection. Yeah that's future proof alright, and that looks like all the ARM tablets are cheapened by that handicap, although the Infinity is worse as it can't even see 5GHz bands, something my $200 Blackberry Playbook could easily do and connect to.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
In an ideal world, I'd have a TF700 that works out of the box. The iPad looks beautiful and polished and all - but I want a portable computer, not an appliance which I can't even write simple software for without signing a contract with Apple, and where Apple decides which other software I am allowed to install on *my* device. The (sad) reality is that the TF700, with all its imperfections, is currently the best tablet on the market for me and apparently many others here. I am also aware that this will change soon and that I spent a lot of money for a device that will be already obsolete in 2013.

Definitely an interesting platform. But nobody has real life experience with that yet, so we only know the positive sides. Battery life? Heat? General usability with legacy applications? Lots of unknowns. Also, will we be able to install Linux, or will it be locked down like the iPad or the TF700?

I don't know which sites you visit, but in my experience, it works 99% OK. Some pages are sluggish, but still usable, even if not enjoyable. I still prefer a regular desktop PC for almost all "serious" online activity.

There is no perfect device. Deal with reality.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Wow - where do I start.... Hmm.. So, you complain about battery life and then you go on to complain that the wireless isn't fast enough... You do realize that if you increase the wireless speeds that will make the battery life even shorter, right? You quite simply can't have your cake and eat it too! Mobile devices are not meant to be desktop replacements! If you need 300mbps speed, a mobile device is not the correct device to use! Please, show me one phone or tablet that will do full wireless-N speed!

As soon as we give you reasons why an iPad 4 is not "better" than the TF700, you say "oh, well, that was just an example, I *really* want...". Give it a rest. You are trolling, plain and simple.

Nobody here "blindly" ignores the TF700s shortcomings - we are well aware of them and we find ways to minimize them. No matter what device you use, there are going to be things that aren't perfect - that's life - you need to learn to deal with it. Truth is, we've managed to work-around the TF700 shortcomings to a point where this device is absolutely awesome. Browser speeds are the faster I've ever seen on *any* mobile device, period!

What are some of the apps that you speak of when you mention "lack of compatible apps"? Not enough fart apps for you?

Again, you *can* make your TF700 perform as you'd like - but you are unwilling (or unable, I don't know which) to do those things. Apparently, you'd rather be "stuck" with a device that doesn't do what you want and complain about it, instead of actually doing something about it. With that attitude, you will never be happy with any device, my friend!

Then you talk about devices that aren't even available yet - how the hell do you know they are so great?? Can you see into the future or something?

Like I said, you will *never* be happy as long as you have such unrealistic expectations as you do.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acme99:
ROFL :highfive:
[Asus Transformer TF700] CaptainKelley:
When did the iTroll 6 get released? I need to upgrade my iSheep's protection. :crying:
[Asus Transformer TF700] stwum:
Where do I pick up the iTroll 6? Please, go easy on the_game_master.:p
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
I second that..
[Asus Transformer TF700] bloodylipp:
i saw in someones tag line

android owners tell their devices what to do, apple users do what their devices tell them to do...

anyway, about the i/o that we were talking about, i just installed cromi 3.0.4 with b2ram and it is cakewalk to do and when you buying a tablet at this level you should already know that when going into roooting is a REALLY good idea. if you care enough about performance to spend this much, spend a couple hours rooting, unlocking and roming.
[Asus Transformer TF700] pnharrison:
I agree, I finally got around to unlocking a few days ago, I also installed CROMI 3.0.4 and I'm really pleased with the results. No lag. My Transformer now works brilliantly :thumbup:
[Asus Transformer TF700] dc_01:
replacing internal SD possible?

dear community, please allow me a possibly stupid question, may it be possible to replace the internal SD with a more performant one? or is the internal SD a non-replacable device?
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
While you can't replace the internal storage, you *can* use something like data2sd (search for it) to use the MicroSD slot as your "internal memory" - many have found that with a good Class 10 memory card, it is faster than the built-in storage.

However, I've found that just installing CleanROM solves 99% of the issues that you see with the stock ROM (without using data2sd or whatever it's called).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Keion:
If nobody has said this yet, I'll say it now.

Chrome is a piece of junk. Google can't make good proprietary android apps for their lives. Stock/AOSP is far superior. If you don't believe me, run some benchmarks or just scroll around to see the smoothness.

Just some other things about chrome which makes it one of the worst browsers on android:

It's a botnet.

It doesn't work on HTC devices.

It lags horribly on higher resolution devices.

The check boxes and stuff are aliased and look disgusting.

If you don't disable zoom, chrome will mess up text sizes on some websites.

Its extremely slow.

It has no configuration options.

It's not free as in freedumz.