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[Off-topic] domini99:
i started with a very cheap android phone.

my parents tought i handled it good, so they bought me a more extensive one after a year.

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I crashed your car into a bridge......

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[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Im a teen and I need it. I love devving for my phones
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Need... need. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
I NEED IT. THE NEED FOR SPEED
[Off-topic] TheCraig:
Teens should have smartphones, and if they don't there getting a serious set back when you throw them in the piranha infested lake of adult hood, an adult from our generation that can't use a smartphone. Wow that is unheard of.
[Off-topic] Goth Wolf:
That's true also my father is having a hard time now in Seattle because his new job provided him with a work phone (something he wasn't accustomed to in Florida) and it is an android smartphone an he's having difficulties with it.
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
Hmm..

This is actually the best reason I have heard so far for a teen to get a smartphone..
[Off-topic] Goth Wolf:
Yeah I don't know how many other places do this for their workers as they usually would do like old Motorola flip phones but it helps to have that down just in case just like its good to have a teen learn to use a computer as early as possible so they don't get left behind as we move forward into technology especially as businesses move forward into the technology world too.

But just because they should get one (or better said they should be familiar with them) doesn't mean they need to get one of these super fancy new ones there are plenty of older cheap ones they could get with the older versions of android which will get them accustomed to how a smartphone works then once they have the means to they can upgrade to a new one an have an easy transition since they know how the basics work. I really would not recommend a Blackberry or an iPhone but that's my personal opinion.

Aside from a few reasons as to why they should have them most teens don't look at it that way they just want the newest coolest thing so that they can show off or play games.
[Off-topic] Logan_M:
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[Off-topic] cosminmocan:
Im almost 17 years old and i own a smartphone since 2009 ,back then i bought myself from my own money(made repairing windows pc`s) a nice htc tytn2.

I help`d me alot i learned windows mobile and it helped my in wince 2 ,and then after 1 year i bought myself a motorola defy (now i was making so much more by upgrading wince car gps softwares or adding maps).

My first smartphone opened the world of mobile for me and i became known localy (mainly in my neighborhood)the whole time my parent`s supported me ,and i didn`t have problems at scool ,so all thing gyberish talk is trash ,if someone wants to learn no phone or tablet or any kind of device will stop him from doing it.
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
I don't think that at this point in time "learning Android" is an essential skill.

What's more important is to learn the basics of how computers and operating systems work in general.

Someone who has grown up understanding computers isn't going to have their mind blown by an Android phone. Heck, my parents never liked computers to start with and Android is so user friendly they've all picked it up.

"Computer problem-solving skills" will give them the ability to adapt. People having trouble today aren't having trouble because they needed to learn Android earlier, it's due to lack of introduction to the kind of software problem-solving that you need to fix your own simple problems.

I'm sure that no matter what we do today, there will be new technologies that the next generations will struggle with. I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years Android is changed beyond recognition or surpassed altogether.
[Off-topic] Goth Wolf:
I don't think anyone ever said "learning android is essential" like I was saying it would be helpful to have them learn the basics of a smartphone (in my opinion an Android would be best) as it can give the same basic skills you need to use a computer especially since the new Windows version (which is the dominant operating systems for computer) is going all touch an is more like the phone OS now then before an a smartphone for a teen would be a better investment to get a teen then a full blown computer
[Off-topic] mp3803:
I am conflicted on this issue. Does a teen absolutely need a smartphone? No. Do all teens want one? Yes. Peer pressure is big on teens and as a parent that is your decision to buy one.

The parenting side. If you are scared of what the teen may do, monitor his usage and the phone its self. No plan? Great, buy it at full price, turn off mobile data, and make them use wifi.

That way everyone is happy. Adults and kids. And no, they don't need an S3 or IPhone 5. A older model phone with good performance and no wireless plan to offer the teen is a good bargaining chip, they will most likely agree to that than not have a smartphone at all.

Plus you can have apps that track the kids if you don't trust them. In some ways a plan is better, but only for those who can afford it.

Just be a good parent and make sure they are not doing dumb crap like sexting and bad things if you feel you cannot trust them.
[Off-topic] stratosk21:
I am thirteen and my parents bought me a samsung galaxy y. I learned a lot of android development. I was a fan of apple but after I used android I really feel like throwing my fathers iPhone out of day house. I go to xda five hours per three days and I still get good grades. U have to manage yr time when u have a smartphone. Some teenagers don't and they waste their time using it.
[Off-topic] The-Captain:
From what it sounds like, she is trustworthy. Show a little trust, think you may be surprised as to how things will keep you and her happy ;)
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
I don't think Android is worthless to learn, just that I feel technology is at a bit of a changing-point and I'm not really sure I have an indication of how things will be going in the future. Once you really understand even Windows 7 (or even 95) and learn to apply terminology and not just buzzwords, you'd be fine picking up Android - the concepts are pretty much the same even with the migration from mouse to touch-screen - and if a person had a laptop, a lot of the gestures are retained.

(though when it comes to computer or android phone/tablet, I will have to vote laptop or netbook as the most practical investment for the time being - when it comes to the needs of a teenager - balancing fun with things like taking notes and doing research. I've done homework on a site that used Flash on my tablet, but sometimes the Flash elements just wouldn't work right - and who knows how long people will cling to Flash).

A desktop is really the best starting place when it comes to encouraging knowledge and development. You really need one to develop for Android, anyway (or a laptop that serves the same function). A desktop gives the opportunity to build and change and upgrade - while learning about the hardware that's basically the same idea across all computers. It's something you can take apart relatively easily and that goes back together much the same with minimal risk.

And, not trying to argue - but iOS has scored Apple contracts with the US government. At this point I think it's good to know the concepts that apply to all OS, so that you can pick up a Mac or iPhone and not be lost even if you don't prefer it.

Off-topic a bit, I'm not really sure how I feel about Windows 8 and the idea of touchscreen desktops. On one hand, yes, I can see people using them - on the other, who wants to wipe finger-prints off the screen every time you want to be able to enjoy a video ? The desktop doesn't really give the benefits that make the trade-off of messy prints worthwhile on a tablet or phone (and it's a much larger area to clean).

I do feel that average consumers are moving away from desktops altogether, but that leads to other issues (such as the need for home servers or how the idea of the stand-alone television will change and evolve).
[Off-topic] Horcrux08:
Most of android developers are age of 14,15,16!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

And i have no wonder if i find any article about WHY OLDER PEOPLE DONT NEED A SMARTPHONE
[Off-topic] Galaxy_W_User:
Younger people understand technology a whole lot better than a lot of adults so if anything its older people that shouldn't have smartphones.
[Off-topic] TuniMan:
What do this have to do with developing !
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
Well.... you may not realize this but older people need one cause..well..

they need to sext and watch porn in privacy as well.
[Off-topic] mani1999:
Are you kiddin? If not I shall better catch up....:D
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
Most of my friends did not get one... until they got a job but it is a different world now.

I have seen kids get a smartphone as early as 12 or 11.
[Off-topic] viet_cong:
as long as you have a phone that can talk and text i tink thats fine. no need for a phone. i still have my motorola razr
[Off-topic] Super2cool:
woah...

I did not know people still have those.
[Off-topic] Lt.Win:
I need a smartphone. I access all my PDFs, docx and xls files from there. School projects on my SD card. And also games. :D

I'm 15, and I NEED a smartphone.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Wow. It think I'm begining to hate kids my same age. :eek:

So stupid and ignorant. They don't even understand "need."
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Funny thing, I to had school projects when I was 15,and yet did just fine without a smartphone, hmmmmmmm........

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[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Join the club.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Because really, pen and paper, computers and a USBdrive is so for old farts.. :rolleyes:

These are the kind of people that make me wish for a global blackout for a year. Just to see if they can magane to make it through the first week. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Wow. Quit hating the teens man...
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I was the same way at your age. :thumbup:

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[Off-topic] Archer:
Teen or old timer, there never has been a moment in history, and there will never be a moment in the future where anyone, anywhere, ever, *needs* a smartphone. If any human had a need for a smartphone we would never have evolved from living in trees. We would have died out, due to our lack of "required" technology.

And I should know. I'm an ape :p

Now please be nice to each other or butt out :)
[Off-topic] saranhai:
Need is something essential for your survival.

Want is just fulfilling your dreams or desires.

Nobody (Adults/teens/children/dogs/cats alike) needs smartphones, you're not going to die without them.

This thread just totally pointless...

-Just a 16 year old
[Off-topic] Lt.Win:
I can manage. I'm not addicted to it, and that's what I'm happy about. Look at my classmates, 24/7 whatsapp, Facebook,etc. They even chat at 4a.m. on our group. :eek:

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[Off-topic] Raymond199483:
I'm on Netflix all night

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[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
And how old are you little boy?
[Off-topic] enik_fox:
Jesus I didn't get a smartphone till I was 17 and I paid for it myself!
[Off-topic] Raymond199483:
Little boy my butt I'm 18 buddy

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Dude. I'm almost 71. That like, what, 20x older than you?
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Speaking from experience, unless you went to war, or are raising a family, you ain't grown up 18.

Sent from the phalanges of my hand to the facet of your cranium.

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Shh, i had to pay for my first phone when I was 21, at it was this one! :eek:

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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Totally agree. Science tells us that the brain isn't done developing until age 25. From my own personal experience, that speaks volumes. I know I wasn't "grown up" when I was 22, living on my own, paying all my bills for the month with a week and a half's pay. I was a damn foolish kid with the rest of my earnings, but it sure was fun.

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
I'm 33, and could not agree more.

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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I'm 32. However, the way I see it, you add the years you've been married plus the ages of your kids to get how old you should feel.

32 + 10 years married, plus a kid who is almost 12 = 54 years old.

My wife doesn't like this theory. Lol

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

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[Off-topic] Lt.Win:
I got mine when I was 10. Earned it by doing chores in the house for 7 months. (Yes, 7 months) My classmates (I mentioned earlier) got theirs when they were 7... :/

This phone was very similar to mine:

And I've earned my phones since then. Every time I would get good marks in an external exam, I would get either a PC game or after 2-3 years a new phone. I've saved lots of cash for my next one. I'm paying 3/4th the money this time. Next time, I'll be paying fully. :)

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Hm...

Mom: 39 +18 years married + 2 + 10 + 13 + 15 + 17 + 18 = 132 years old

Dad: 132+4= 136 years old

:eek::eek::eek:
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Yep. I'm sure they feel it some days. :D

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
The look like it too! :p;)
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
OK, I'm going to count my step kids. I'm raising them along with their mother, I get the heart ache to

33+5 yrs married, 38

38+13+11+9+4+2+1=78

Feels about right....

By the way, all girls exempt for the 2 yr old, factor that in, I feel about 125

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[Off-topic] Lt.Win:
Mom: 46+16yrs married+me 15 = 77.

Dad: 77+5=83.

:/

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[Off-topic] DesertHawk:
Mom is 40 and dad is 46. Dad was 26 and mom was 20 when married and still together :)

All my phones I got myself through works or buying and selling. My first phone was a ZTE Blade. Then I moved on through the phones in my signature. Now I have Note 2, Xperia S, LG Prada 3 and One X+. I gave the One X+ to my mom. I dont have a problem with people having phones. I dont get annoyed or jealous. Its their thing and I dont have opinions on them because even if you hate it, you're not their parents so worrying about them is getting you know where. I cant be asked to worry about other kids in about what phones they have, because I have more important priorities in my life. But if you have plenty of time and care about what phones teens have and other little things like that, carry on... but its not gonna change them unless its you're own child.

If you can control your child and not make them addicted rather than not getting one because you're scared or jealous (I dont know your intentions) because that wont make the situation better. If money is an issue then explain to them.
[Off-topic] Zeuscluts:
Gadget man

Time is LIFE,

SPEND IT WISELY
[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
You know, I think I reverted to having a Smartphone. I started with a good Kindle Fire and then went down to ZTE Score and last ended up Samsung Comment²
[Off-topic] ajeteja:
They see porn
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
Lol

So accurate

You just got trolled by Darkknight
[Off-topic] sy224048:
I need a smartphone. How else am I going to update my Facebook while sagging my pants with a snapback and the peace symbol? Also #yolo #swag #justinbieber4ver and #swag for good measure.
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
How else will I prevent prostate cancer ...

Gotta go ... Fap Fap Fap

You just got trolled by Darkknight
[Off-topic] soccerfan6789:
The reason I got one was because I had a passion for technology. My dad saw this when I was like 10 or 11. From there I learned a lot and researched. Right now I'm taking AP computer science and want to learn how to program android this summer. Its just a good thing if you know like rooting and stuff like that in the android. In my opinion, iPhone people are not as technologically advanced when compared to those who root their androids. Android opens up so many possibilities and that's why I feel your fist phone should be a android if you want to expand your horizons. If you want an iPhone, you don't need a smartphone if your a teen unless you are special and by that I mean like kids who are gifted and want to program iPhones or something along those lines.
[Off-topic] gamepro602:
^^^^^^^^Same^^^^^^^^

:)

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[Off-topic] Okaham:
it's not like they can program much of it anyway...Apple locks everything down
[Off-topic] hawkm:
Just because Apple locks down a lot of their OS doesn't mean they can't do a lot of cool things. Jailbreaking an iOS device brings you many possibilities. Besides, I bet many people in the Cydia store paid for an Apple License.
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
What you can do jail breaking an iPhone can be done on an android without even rooting

You just got trolled by Darkknight
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
You shouldn't compare features that were hacked to obtain in an OS when relating to another OS.

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My point entirely.
[Off-topic] Azaxirus:
That's your opinion.

My dad bought me my first smart phone last summer, a Galaxy S Blaze 4G. I was 15 then and am now 16 and a junior in high school and a sophomore in college (dual enrolled).

Last fall, a community which I will not name drove me to finally learn Java which I had intended to do for the longest time. Recently I've been using my phone as a development device to test applications I've written. If your son or daughter has a passion for programming and wants a device for that purpose, I highly suggest that if you can, give it to them. They'll expand their knowledge greatly.

I'd also like to counter your statement saying smart phones are expensive because while that may be true for some, that's not always the case. For example, my dad bought my Blaze for $300. Now while that's still a fair price, here's the interesting part. My phone only costs $30 a month, prepaid, for 5GB of 4G data and anything over not charged, instead dropped to 2G speeds, 100 talk minutes, and unlimited texting and multimedia messaging. All in all, this is extremely cheap compared to $70 a month plans.

So the bottom line is don't generalize. Not all teens are the same or "too immature".
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
I am going to generalize here. I am 20 years older than you.

I lived most of my life without one of these things. So lets see these apps you've written.
[Off-topic] Azaxirus:
So far I've written tool apps, the main ones being a flashlight and an advanced task manager. I haven't paid Google $25 yet though.

I've also made a mobile app for a website that allowed complete mobile interaction with most components of the site. However, when I asked for permission to publicly release it, the Managing Director said no since they would develop their own app soon and that if I chose to do it anyway, he would file a DMCA copyright claim.

Anyways, I've been looking for a good game engine to finally learn so I can start game development. I'm not much of an artist though so we'll have to see how I'm going to get sprites. If I make them, they'll be extremely ugly.
[Off-topic] skiba112:
Odp: Why Teens Don't Need a Smartphone

Hi. I'm seventeen and my first smartphone was galaxy s. I begged my mother to give me it because she bought herself a new phone. My previous phone was some old Nokia which I bought which I earned during summer vacation. With Nokia I couldn't do much. When my mother finally gave me it I realised how much can I do with it. I found xda :D and my adventure started I wasn't very familiar with unlocking flashing rooting modding and all stuff but after a week I tested nearly all custom roms and kernels getting soft bricks many times so and I couldn't afford a professional repairman so I had to learn how to solder myself and all that stuff to create a JIG to put it in factory mode. All I learned and experienced gave my opportunity. I'm living in small town and mobile phone repair services are really expensive so I started a small advertising campaign and started repairing modding and rooting people's smartphones for small money. Now I earned my first quite big money and bought Sony Xperia S. I'm learning all the time, walking to school and my beloved galaxy s showed my what a small computer can make life better. So if your teen is a passionate and doesn't care about those ****ty iPhone's(I'm repairing them all the time, 3gs battery likes to explode...), buy him galaxy s or nexus s. You and him or her are not going to regret.

Sorry for mistakes I'm not a native speaker(smartphone taught me English :P)
[Off-topic] :
hey bro are u serious, other smartphones are not expensive like my phone only $98
[Off-topic] domini99:
I got this phone (xperia arc s) for €30 refurbished :)

In VERY good state!

Sent from my sending thing..

Stupid Macbook Air can't fly
[Off-topic] -DarkKnight-:
I got my nexus one for 104 $ referbished after my other phone broke
[Off-topic] xzn:
i'm teen :cool:
[Off-topic] xzn:
:p
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I like this thread, so let's bump it.
[Off-topic] gmaster1:
i completely forgot about this thread till you bumped it :eek:

That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem? :eek:
[Off-topic] Seraz007:
because they should spend time more with each other rather than with a smartphone :D:D:o
[Off-topic] bbrad:
And you should spend more time with your kids than on a computer.
[Off-topic] Ahmad_Ashraf:
Yes

Never buy your teen a smartphone

You don't want him to become a developer when he is 16 like me

No, not me I am a badass don't you want your teen to become like Faryaab a 16 year old guru here on xda who has his own ROM series super nexus I guess all people with Samsung phones know him ?

Won't you buy your teen a smartphone ?!

Sent from the most fast and sexy sgs i9000 ever
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Those examples are the exception and you know it. My teen has a smartphone. She earned it, and earns the right to keep it by maintaining good grades and behaving. It is a privilege, not a right.
[Off-topic] Ahmad_Ashraf:
We weren't born as dev

I have been into android for 6 months only and now I have my mods and ROMs.

Teens have the power to do anything

You'll even be amazed that I am a featured member in one of the biggest political parties here in Egypt.

I own a old SGS1 i9000 when I wanted to update to S3 my father refused and he told me that he was sure there is a lot I don't know about my phone and still I didn't get the most out of it. By some simple Google search I flashed my first ROM and now I am a mini Dev.

BTW my father never knew any thing about developing , but he drew my path. Thanks to him

Do like my father and motivate your teen , take him out of the darkness.

Greets from Cairo

Ahmad Ashraf

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Well see with my other kids, as for my teen, she has no interest what so ever to dev. All she wants it is to work. If it was up to her, she'll have an IPhone. I told her her..... NOT IN MY HOUSE DAUGHTER! :banghead:
[Off-topic] Ahmad_Ashraf:
Hahaha LOL

Girls are not for this no idea why

I tried several times with all the females in my life but I failed in all

Ohh no I installed apex launcher for my girlfriend mobile Lol :D

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
[MENTION=4666951]Ichigo[/MENTION] will beg to differ. :D
[Off-topic] bbrad:
[MENTION=4666951]Ichigo[/MENTION] just nvm
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I saw what you posted before the edit.