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[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] chatch15117:
wonderful work. very fast. seems to not hang as much from deep sleep. i used to have to reboot it. after clearing the apps out of RAM it resumes liquid smooth performance in about a minute. i think this is just because a bunch of background services check for updates or something as soon as they come back to life (app store, google now, location service, e-mail, calendar, contacts, vtok/talk/messenger, etc.)

so far i am really liking SIO i/o scheduler. rocket speed copying files among USB and flash devices. hitting 20mB/s

opened a completely legal H264 i downloaded in mx player and it played liquid smooth. opened KAT tool thing to boost the volume. i wish this tablet was this great in 2010 :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] stesteste:
v17 lidpatch kernal use mainly for browsing ,facebook etc all sycs on pretty happy with battery life thanks again
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] st0nedpenguin:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/paranoid-android-team-open-sources-halo/

Do want!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] leveliciouz:
It gets even better!!

They stated that they are working on a physics engine to fling the window around and resize it!!!

We will get true multitasking with this

It's just so awesome
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] alizafar:
Any plans for halo... Please.:)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] knoxploration:
Meh. Call me the grinch, but I'd much rather have proper multitasking (that is, programs never close and have to reload unless *I* choose to close them, and never pause in the background at all, because pausing some types of apps effectively causes them to reload when you switch to them) than a needlessly glossy band-aid patch that lets only two apps multitask at any given time, and wastes half the screen area on showing me an app other than the one I currently want to use behind a scaled-down version of the app I'm trying to use.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] leveliciouz:
No no

You're absolutely right.

But i think we can be optimistic

Google probably realizes the demand of multi tasking abilities

At least with tablets! I think on phones it's not that important.

I mean samsung has it

Paranoid android too

Everybody likes it

Maybe we will see an even better implementation in android 5 from google?

Now that would be a gamebreaker!

So excited:fingers-crossed:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] just lou:
You're asking for an awful lot from a device that is running on hardware that is getting outdated.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
IMO, you should get a Win 8 tablet if that is what you really want. I know my TF101 is NOT a PC and will never be able to function like a PC. I love being able to have 2 windows avaialbale at once (through Kornerstone or using floating app windows, etc.) but even when I use a PC I have at most 2 apps visible at once, usually just one.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] gadgetrants:
I read knoxploration's comment with the emphasis on what happens during task switching, that is, how background tasks are sometimes cached and then reloaded/restarted (which is cumbersome) rather than "paused" and then brought back to the foreground.

-Matt
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
Probably what was meant. Still, there is not a way to fix this AFAIK on Android.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] gadgetrants:
True dat. Some of what I've read here today has me thinking either (a) I am WAY behind in the understanding the state-of-the-art for Android kernel development, or (b) it's kinda science fiction (or very hopeful forecasting).

Either way I'm as pleased as a puppy with the way things are. I have a new phone in my sights (maybe an S4 or a One when it comes to Verizon) plus I'll get my wife the new Nexus 7 once it's (ever!) released, so I'll have several other toys to tinker with and enjoy. As long as my trusty TF101 continues to work, I'll stick with it for the things that it does great (reading, movies, web, etc.).

-Matt
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] knoxploration:
No thanks. Win 8 tablets are a preordained flop, and there is zero reason Android couldn't be given proper multitasking. It is based on an OS with proper multitasking, after all, and the hardware is more than up to it.

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Even pausing is a problem. Putting a real time app on pause is enough to cause it to have to reconnect or restart every time you return to it. It should be possible for the user to define apps that can never be paused, if pausing is a default behavior. I'd say it should be able to be requested by the app itself, except too many lazy devs would leave "don't pause" enabled whether they needed it or not.

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There is zero reason Google couldn't fix this. Third party devs... I'd have said not were it not for mods like the one we were discussing. Unfortunately third party devs prefer attention-grabbing gloss over the best solution sometimes.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SoulReaver75:
Uhm... my tf101 with nightly 117 and katkernel 103 became sluggish again.

I don't know why, I already tried to reboot, wipe cache and dalvik but it's not very responsive... :(
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] edd080:
I am noticing this sluggishness whilst installing an app or update from playstore, whilst the installation is being processed the tablet is very sluggish, I have lookout security installed so after installing the app lookout scans the app, which also affects my tablet. After the installation and scan is complete the tablet returns to its normal smoothness.

I never experienced this with Timduru's roms ...

Thanks..
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SoulReaver75:
I'm not using lookout or any other antivirus. During updates I can accept it, but my slugginesh is all the time... very annoying.

Just after falshing it was quite smooth and I was so happy. I don't know what caused this.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] edd080:
Yes I agree with you it is annoying.. especially if it does this for no reason.. could there be a process or possibly an app requiring an abnormal cpu utilisation all the time?

I remember using an app called betterbatterystats for another issue, which might help as it records processes which require certain thresholds,

but I may be wrong and someone else might have a better idea..
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
For sluggishness during play store updates, try clearing the cache (and sometimes the data) of the Play Store app.

Also, make sure you are using SIO for your IO scheduler. You can also try the LAGFIX app to see if that helps too.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SoulReaver75:
Mmm... it's quite clean, I also disabled all localization services to save battery.

Even after reboot is already slow.

Battery life looks normal, so I don't think that some app is using all the cpu juice.

Tonight I will check again battery stats, but I did not see anything strange.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] edd080:
Thanks for the tip will try what you are suggesting, with regards to the LAGFIX app, do i get this from playstore? or is it a customised app?

Thanks for the help.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] irtiqa:
Installed lasted EOS 4 built and Kat kernel. Everything is working fine but when connected to charger my tab will never deep sleep. On battery it deep sleep no issue at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Drybonz:
I have been enjoying this rom for the last couple months or so, and wanted to stop by to say thanks for putting it together. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
I was getting sluggishness and lag and eventually worked out it was only when I was running a custom theme, I put it back to system theme and its back to full speed again, I can even have a live wallpaper and very acceptable performance
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] georgica81:
Hi all. I just switched from ARHD to this + KAT kernel (that was the recommendation in numerous posts). It works decently, but not that fast. I mean, the transitions between screens, scrolling web pages, starting apps - they all seem to have a bit of "stutter". I can live with that I guess.

Then 2 days after, I take my tablet (which I left it at about 85% battery, undocked) and the tablet is dead - "red battery" when pressing power. So I plug it in the dock and the dock in the socket - it recharges and when I try to power (both while docked or undocked) - it stops at the EOS logo - I left it there for 20 minutes and nothing. I went into the recovery - tried wipe cache, dalvik cache, factory reset - nothing, still stuck at logo. A full reinstall worked. I suspected it was not going in full sleep, but it goes into full sleep. Now it seems to be working fine.

What other "recommendations" do you have? I use KAT kernel with smartassV2 1400Mhz/216Mhz, SIO for scheduler. the wifi is configured to turn off while sleeping. I also installed APEX launcher (I don't like the default one - not too much customization - I hate the "app" button, so I program the Home button to open the drawer, I also don't like the persistent search bar - i'm not sure you can change these in the default launcher).

Thanks.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
Try trebuchet.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Change UI Mode to Tablet Bar
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] georgica81:
isn't trebuchet the "default" one? I cannot see it as a separate app in the Play Store

changed that (so it doesn't look like a phone), but still cannot customize the behavior of the Home button (to open/close drawer) and still cannot remove the "search bar".

speaking of "tablet bar" - in the ARHD (and stock also I think), there is a "switch" in the middle of the bar that can block those buttons. it's useful when you give the tablet to the kids to use some drawing application (the don't hit Home button by mistake) - is there something similar in EOS rom? (I saw something with the "full screen" or smth, but didn't test it yet).
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Ummm. How many apps do you have installed? And you have some lame needless security app installed scanning everything needlessly? Don't blame the build sir.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SoulReaver75:
Ok, switched theme back to system, changed scheduler to SIO, changed nova with apex. Nova gave me some fc.

Now it looks faster.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] edd080:
Well i have many apps installed, around 90 apps which are various apps from games to office to video apps... I use lookout security which in my opinion is not needless it did sometimes detect a couple of viruses that i was about to install from outside sources other than play store.

In my last comment i was only comparing the change i experienced from Timduru's builds to the eos 4 build, i meant no disrespect.

This build is super smooth on the whole, thank you for all the hard work and effort that you put in these builds.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jays473:
multitasking

I know there is no true multitasking for this tablet except for coner stone where multiple apps open at the same time section of on the screen but however i find gmd gestures works well for multitasking when you set the gesture to swipe to app that you having running it doesnt close them off eg: i have swipe left and swipe right with 2 fingers to switch between apps....when im playing a football game or watching a movie in mx player, when i swipe over to another app like email which i had open it pauses the football game and the movie and you could just swipe back to it and resume
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Ok. I get stutter when I install an app on my nexus 7. Depending on the size and complexity of the app, this is normal. Installing an app is actually a very resource-intense operation. But consider that, on average, we spend very little time installing apps compared to normal usage.

You can't view android security in the same way we view pc security. However, I guess it's not entirely fair to call android antivirus apps needless. But honestly, their pretty close. The problem is this. It's nearly impossible to identify what would be considered malicious code. A truly secure device must not have root. Moreover, you must trust your root app devs. And you must trust your rom devs. I didn't mean to come off angry or anything. We all know tegra2 is hanging in there by a thread. Me, timduru, raymanfx, runandhide, roach, solarnz, have been at the forefront of tegra2 development since Day 1 of Xoom official release. It's been a long and amazing journey on this underappreciated platform. But the time is coming in which tegra2 won't be able to keep up with modern android development. This is the natural Android cycle.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] a.mcdear:
Just noticed...

on the latest nightly, when you have the older "tablet bar" UI enabled and bluetooth on, the bluetooth indicator icon is shown in the notification area twice.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] kalkrishnan:
Google Search app FC's every time I open it. I am using 117, and I have tried with or without KAT kernel. I do have the latest GAPPS installed from timduru's site. I even did a full factory wipe and re-installed. Still the same problem. Anyone else notice this?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] evoer:
settings/language and input/ voice search uncheck hotword detection
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] a.mcdear:
Go to : Settings > Voice and Input > Voice Search and then uncheck "Hotword Detection" and then Google Search/Now will work correctly.

*damn, got ninja'd
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] just lou:
Never had a single FC using Nova on 3 devices, but Apex isn't bad either. ...IMO, ROW> SIO. Your mileage may vary.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Hahaha indeed it does! Good find. Next build...
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] darkvoid_66:
In latest Gmail app, in my inbox when I receive mail from Microsoft I get a big square with and "M", mails from Mike I also get a "M" square.

This in my opinion is really stupid and I find it hard to sort through my emails. I've been looking every setting but I can't get rid of these squares.

Anyone has any idea how to disable/hide them?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
No, the default launcher is the 4.2 launcher. Trebuchet is the default CM10 launcher. There are links throughout this thread of where to get Trebuchet.

I believe you need to go into the EOS Control Center app, then go to the Navigation section and you can set other targets for the home button. You can add 3 targets (like Google Now) when you drag up. Personally I use Apex and have the SWIPE DOWN gesture open the app drawer.

As far as removing the search bar on the home screen with the default launcher, you need to disable Google Search in Settings - Apps - All. This also kills Google Now so it will not work. Not worth it IMO and I just use Apex.

Hold the LOCK button for 3 seconds and select the bottom option from the menu (Show Navigation Bar or something) and this will hide the bar at the bottom. Give to your kids to play. When you need it back, repeat the process to show the Nav Bar again.

EDIT - This last option seems to have been changed. I was running Preview 202 and it was still present but the latest 117 Nightly does not have this option.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jazzruby:
Settings > General settings > Sender image

-JR-

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Also, when you expand the quick settings notification the icon for Bluetooth is inverted, i.e. when off/disabled the icon is bright and when on/enabled it's dark.

-JR-
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] marinierb:
wifi roaming

I have experienced something interesting today. I set up a second wifi access point in my house (a second router connected to the first through the lan port). Both ap's have the same SSID and password. This ROM will seemlessly switch ap's based on signal strength. Not so with CM10.1 running on my phone.

So bravo to the devs!

EDIT: Well, look at that! My phone will do it to if I set the "Avoid poor connections" option. That option does not appear on EOS, but I get it's turned on by default.

Very cool!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] sidneyk:
Correct. The TF101 will not deep sleep while charging. That's the behavior I've seen no matter the ROM, stock or custom.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bsoplinger:
I've been following the thread in anticipation of installing TeamEOS but haven't yet. I was on stock and then on Revolution 3.6. My TF101 deep sleeps while charging. Always has. But the tablet is docked. Does this make the difference?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] zAlbee:
It will deep sleep while charging off the dock battery only. It will never deep sleep when plugged in. That has been my experience both in stock ICS and EOS 4 JB.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SoulReaver75:
I don't know why... But when the tablet was very slow and stopped responding, I had messages that nova was not responding and asking if I wanted to wait or close. Maybe the real problem was the theme, even if at the beginning it was working well.

Anyway, now my tf101 is fast again :victory:

I just lost expanded desktop, it works on nova but not on apex.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
Hmmm, I use Apex and on 117 I can disable the nav bar.

Also, [MENTION=470268]bigrushdog[/MENTION], can we have the "Expanded Desktop" option back in the power menu? Most of the time I do use LMT or my dock, but sometimes I have LMT disabled when playing a game and I will also kill the Nav Bar. If I do this through the EOS CC, then start a game, there is no way to get back to the EOS CC without rebooting.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] doppelhelix:
You could also add a nice picture to your contact by editing your contact. Just tap on the icon.

I find this feature rather neat since I am more picture oriented (hate mp3 without cover embeded).
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] sidneyk:
Mine is always docked when charging so never deep sleeps when charging. It will deep sleep in the dock as long as the charger isn't plugged in. I've never had to charge it off the dock.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] mgeniusm:
deep sleep

so does mine!

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never had problems with nova!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Finrod Paradox:
rather stuped question, but if I relock my bootloader will I loose the root?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
The TF101 has an unlocked bootloader, so you cannot relock it.

If you flash back to stock, you will lose root, but you can reinstall a custom recovery and flash SuperUser to get root back on stock.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
TF101 does not deep sleep when plugged into the charger, docked or otherwise, but deep sleep is not needed when its plugged in anyway, its only there to save battery life
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
You need to get the apk from a cm 10.1 build
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bsoplinger:
I just installed the TeamEOS ROM and I'm having the same issues as the poster you're replying to but your fixes didn't work.

To recap. I have a good, working 64G SDXC card formatted as FAT32. I can't get it to work in the dock reader. It worked fine with stock and Revolution 3.6 but nothing I've tried has worked under TeamEOS. It just keeps telling me that the card is damaged and needs to be reformatted.

Luckily I can multitask and let Titanium restore my backups that I copied from the SDXC card to a microSDXC which does work in the tablet slot. Then come here with my Nexus 7 tablet and look for a hopeful solution.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bigrushdog:
Enable it in ECC / navigation / expanded desktop dialog. it's disabled in power menu by default.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
DOH!

Missed that. Thanks!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Feldhege:
I just upgraded from the 05/29 nightly to the current 06/03 nightly. The only problem is I have to cold boot my tf101 manually or it goes into recovery automatically. Anyone have any ideas how to get it to just boot in the is without me having to hold down volume?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] mgeniusm:
flash

Reflash the ROM wiping system, cache and dalvik first then after flash rom, kat kernel and gapps then wipe cache and dalvik again. Reboot
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] bfmetcalf:
Run this from the terminal app

su
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3

Then install TWRP recovery from goo manager app. CWM causes issues like this (only a guess that you are using CWM, but probably a good one :))
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Badbullet:
Seems that you have recovery loop problem so try this: Download TWRP recovery from GOOManager

Place the recovery zip on the sdcard where clockworkmod can read it.

Reboot into recovery using "adb reboot recovery" or "hold volume down and power for 3 seconds, let go of power only, then press volume up when prompted on screen"

In recovery, select flash zip from sdcard and select the recovery zip you downloaded

Once it has flashed the zip file, don't reboot but hold power button to shot down

Power on your device and boot in android. Download terminal emulator from market and type this:

su
echo boot | dd of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 bs=1 seek=0
Reboot
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Feldhege:
That was it. Once I ran the command, I was able to have Goo Manager install the openscript TWCP. Now it works and boots like it should. Thanks guys. Look forward to the new roms coming. :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] a.mcdear:
Noticed another minor bug:

In "Tablet Bar" mode, selecting the expanded desktop mode does not hide the tablet bar, but instead disabled the quick settings buttons in the notification area.

Also, when using a Bluetooth keyboard, occasionally the back arrow gets stuck as the down arrow. The down arrow usually appears when the on-screen keyboard is displayed, and so far I haven't noticed exactly when it gets stuck as the down arrow, but it has only happened when my Bluetooth keyboard is connected.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Badbullet:
New update 118 is out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Settings seems broken in #118

EDIT - Not broken, just new layout, swipe from left to hide and unhide settings list :D Nice !