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[Off-topic] Pennycake:
Antisocial is when a person is actively trying to damage society/people in it/et cetera. Think sociopath.

Asocial is when a person is not interested in or avoids social contact.

Are these kids on their phones even doing either of these things? Not the typical user by far. They're using the phones to BE social. Just because it's not social in the way that was common 20 years ago doesn't mean it's not being social. It's HYPER-social, if anything.

There are drawbacks and benefits, but it's not a lack of social activity this group is suffering from - if anything, they're TOO connected, to too many streams of communication all the time.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
That's not what a sociopath is. A sociopath is somebody who isn't capable of having emotions or sharing deep emotional bonds with another person. Any "friends" are usually being exploited in the relationship.
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
I couldnt imagine teens today if they had nobsmartphones
[Off-topic] veeman:
As a teen, I use my smartphone for games and porn. Yes, this smartphone is a necessity.
[Off-topic] ak700:
True. Games and pr0n. But more pr0n.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
As a teen? I'm in my thirties, and that's how I use my smartphone.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
That's how everyone uses everything with Internet access.

McPornald's, Porno Bell, StarPorns etc.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
True story.jpg
[Off-topic] Danial723:
Yea you use your laptop connected to your 70 inch flat screen tv.....nice couch BTW:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Yeah well I don't have a tv while I'm driving.

Said purely in jest. Please don't fap and drive teens.
[Off-topic] Danial723:
Umm.....I didn't quote your post :confused:
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
I just wanted to make a fapping and driving joke. See, I'm a classy motha-****a.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
That's what she said....
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
It's not the size. It's how you use it.

Obligatory.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Ugh. Please, just stop! :eek:
[Off-topic] HibikiTaisuna:
I think a mobile phone or even a smartphone is a good thing to have at an age of 15 or older. But here in Germany I see kids of (maybe) rich parents with iPhail 5s and they are only 7 or 8. Thats absolutely ridiculous. Even if they may need a phone a mobile phone is more than enough.

I hadnt a mobile phone until I were 16 and started my apprenticeship as a banker and I bought my smartphone 2 years ago in the age of 20. My first mobile phone was a small Siemens with a black and white display.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
My son is 11 and has my old Vibrant. Why? Well, cell phone came about because his first one (LG Optimus) was free with activation, and we wanted a way to keep in touch with him while he was hanging out in the neighborhood with friends. #1 reason for android though was gps tracking of him. I also have full control over what his phone can and can't do. He has access to phone, text, music and camera. That's it. No damn Facebook or Twitter, no web browsers, no Play Store. I have every other app either uninstalled or locked with app locker.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Phone

Text

Music

Camera

Why not just get him a flip phone? :what: (or a slider, whatever dumb phone)
[Off-topic] Danial723:
And if he knows how to use Google.....factory reset and do as he wishes
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Because the phone was free. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Not if you count that data plan :rolleyes: right back at ya :p
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
He has 200mb of data, which I switched off. He has no internet access without a password, the gps tracking is key, and using a flip phone as an mp3 player sucks.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
So you actually pay for 200 mb a month but don't use it? That's on AT&T for $15 if I recall correctly...?

Edit: i think kajeet is the mobile carrier for you, has lots of parental controls and probably a lot cheaper
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
We're TMO in the US. I'm spending only 5-10 extra a month for his line.

As for controls, I have all I need thanks to root. He's running AOKP JB, but has no access to learn how to bypass my controls. If he did reset it, I have a very crappy flip phone he knows he would get, which he would hate, so he stays within rules. :thumbup:
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
Not to be rude, but "Sociopathic Personality Disorder" was re-named "Antisocial Personality Disorder" with the DSM III, over 20 years ago. So, yes, that's medically what a "sociopath" is - the diagnosis covers a variety of colloquial terms.

What you describe is actually by the letter included in the criteria for the disorder - though it's not how every presentation of the disorder goes, just like not all people with Depression have the same symptoms.

I'm just being pedantic here and pointing out that "anti-social" doesn't mean "kid who has social contact via electronic communication more often than in person". Using a smartphone or anything simply to communicate is not anti-social. It would be anti-social if they were using the phone to defraud their friends, drive their peers to suicide, make vicious prank calls, whatever - that would be "anti-social" behaviour.

I don't think smartphones necessarily drive teenagers to commit crimes against society. Sure, it may encourage rule-breaking in some ways - but not any more than is normal for a normal, healthy teenager.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Fully true. Also, a distinct lack of interest in or care for the rules of a society. (which is not the same as the law, mind you. People quickly mistake a psychopath for a sociopath. Thank you Hollywood ignorance. For example those idiots who started shooting in schools? They were psychopaths, not sociopaths.).

And yes, I do know what I'm talking about. Unless the 37 shrinks who diagnosed me with it were lying. :confused:

Yes, but APD sounds dull. I'll just stay a sociopath, thanks.

It used to be comics, then it was the tv, then it was music players, now it's mobile phones and the internet. People will always try to find something else to blame, as opposed to facing their own faults in raising their children. How many 'adults' now used to go mess about in their youth for fun? They didn't have mobile phones. The largest fault for the degradation of society lies with the current group of 'parents', not the children who were raised by them.

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Now, regarding the original topic. Denying your children what others have may have another negative effect: It will make them a prime target for bullies. Experience talking here, I was the only one in my class who didn't have a mobile back in the day. You do not want to know how many times I've had to hear the "Mother's child, your mommy won't let you have a phone, boohoo!". (I had the same thing with MSN and Internet in general.) Consider this, because this will have a negative effect on children for the rest of their lives. You don't have to buy then an iPhone because it's popular, (You're on the Android forums, who'll recommend an iFail anyway?) but denying them a smartphone altogether might have far more consequences then one might think.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Instead of buying are kids expesive toys to make sure they are not bullied, I perfer to give my kids the life skills to deal with bullies. I for one was prime material to be bullied as a kid. Had big glasses, skinny with pimples not to mention my parents where not well off. They had five kids to worry about, Cell phones were not a prioraty Guess what, there was very few and far between instances where I was bullied. My dad gave me life lessons to deal with those that dont like you. Plus I always was able to get plenty of friends (mostly the bigger kids :D ) Know to stand on you're own. Potray quite confidence. That will go a long ways in life.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Personally I would want any teenage children I'd have to have a smart phone. The ability to use features like Google Maps navigation, mobile email, always available camera, and other mainstays in current smart phones are worth the cost to me to ensure that they are never without a way to access them.

That said it definitely would not need to be a high end phone and anything other than the first one I got them would have to come out of their pocket.
[Off-topic] veeman:
Don't forget the porn.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
They're teenagers! They don't need me to remind them about it.
[Off-topic] deepsagarj:
Yeah teenagers don't need to be reminded about pron :p
[Off-topic] tanner4137:
I do think it's funny how simplistic most teenagers my age want their phones (aka iPhone.) Coming back from Christmas Break, I saw so many instances where my friends would try to show off their new iPhone 5 to me. I almost started laughing when one of them saw me using OI File Manager (an app I highly suggest) and called me "High-Tech" haha. I think instead of depriving teens like me from technology like cell-phones, we should let them explore and learn how electronics work.
[Off-topic] adytum:
This is what more and more teachers and schools are focusing on, at least in my country. Both PISA and other similar extensive research show that teenagers are extremely good at using technology for recreation, but extremely poor at using it for research, work and relevant information seeking compared to adults. That's why more and more schools are implementing active use of smartphones and computers in classes that previously would have seen no practical use of them.

For instance, I'm a college teacher, I let my students use their phones if I can see that there is an actual use for it. I won't go into details as it would lengthen this post immensely, but it involves strategies for seeking and using information, source credibility and practical implementation. Of course, many students go to great lengths to conceal other activity, but in the end, one cannot ignore the impact technology has on every area of modern life, and I'd rather attempt to steer usage in a useful direction than having the school become a bubble isolated from society. And yes, that involves students respecting occasions when smartphones are not acceptable, as it would in a real workplace. Taking away the notion of smartphones being an instrument of riot against teachers through active use of them in class, is what more and more studies find effective.
[Off-topic] Pat.:
You aren't going to learn much about electronics by using a smartphone.
[Off-topic] tallyforeman:
Guys... its ok. Getting them one of those "other" phones really isn't getting them much :D

But on the for real note: Tracking with Android is a piece of cake. Wanna know who they are talking to, where they are etc. That's a no brainer.
[Off-topic] Pat.:
If i was a bunch if teenagers & had tracking concerns i would just all swap phones :D
[Off-topic] :
Why is this thread using an article against iPhones to say we shouldn't have smartphones? No one here even likes iCrap anyway...
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
iDevices are a fact of modern life.

Hell my sister always refers to my tablet and phone as "your iPad or your iPhone"...I don't correct her anymore.

Battle lost.
[Off-topic] darkshadow246:
There are some low end smart phones that you can buy for your teen and besides lots of teens have phones

I'm teen and I have a galaxy y
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
You can't go to low end though. My 13yr daughter has a LG Mytouch, the complaining never stops!! :mad:
[Off-topic] tallyforeman:
This should pour some gas on the fire:

There's a good chance a question such as this would never come about had a given teen/child been involved in a better upbringing. Look at the demeanor of kids today and boy have times changed. Not pointing any fingers at all. A simple flip phone would be more than sufficient for a means of cummunication. Unfortunately, times have changed along with parental influence among children.
[Off-topic] EP2008:
I agree. The sense of entitlement among most young people is frightening.

I remember working my ass off to save up for a single video game once every 6 months when I was a teen. Now it seems that if your parents don't get you a $700 smartphone with a $70 plan, your world is over... LOL... first world problems...
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
LOL i have a smartphone and im 13. Dude i think u need to get out of forum. This forum aint for people like parents or people who think they are parents of everyone. I mean i have a lot uses of my phone like Tweeting,facebooking,music,browsing,camera and more so yea i kinda need phone
[Off-topic] tallyforeman:
LOL dude I think you need to go back and read. That is if you can read or were you too busy on Facebook in class?
[Off-topic] EP2008:
I think you proved the point being presented... none of those are "needs"... seriously... facebook at 13? Tweeting?... at 13 I was teaching myself how to program in C, taught myself drumming, was building things out of wood, had hobbies, etc.

Your teen years determine your success in adulthood. If you miss the opportunity to grow and learn because your on Facebook, you'll lose out on the rest of your life.
[Off-topic] :
I have discovered why I have a smartphone... Because XDA:

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
If it's such a problem then you should just take it back.

At least that's my attitude on teens who argue about having a less than high end phone. My first cell was one of those ancient nokia bricks with an antenna and changeable faceplates. Didn't even have a color screen. There is no reason for complaining about any even semi-modern smartphone.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I think kids under 18 should only have a smartphone as a tool for the parents to communicate and keep tabs on their kids with. If the parents see it as useful and can properly monitor usage, then it works and provides benefit. Otherwise, it can lead to trouble. I don't think they should just hand over the phone and relinquish all control over it.

When I was growing up I lived in a tiny (~500 people) town in Texas. As young as 4 or 5, I wandered the neighborhood with friends, harassed the crawfish, thew rocks at tarantulas, and lived in the real world, without fears we have today. Moved to Los Angeles when I was 7, it wasn't much different except for lack of country wildlife. Sadly, the world is scarier today. Thus, my son has his. We know who he talks to, what he texts, where he is on the block. He respects it and appreciates the privilege, except when he ****s up and I put it on lockdown: calls and text only. Lol
[Off-topic] nuuits:
I am posting this from a teenager's point of view.

I think that it depends on their attitude towards it and other factors.

If they complain and say they will only take an iPhone or something, well, get them a cheap dumbphone. If they're thankful for a lower end phone, then I don't see what the big problem is as long as they recognize it and realize that you (the parent) is paying for it. Of course, it should be on your terms and conditions and it should be based on whether or not you, as the person paying for the plan, can afford it and whether or not you personally think they have earned it (i.e., the kid is making good grades in school, is a contributing member of the family, etc. etc.).

But hey what do I know?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Do teens need a smartphone?

Not really. The only need for the phone is that they keep in touch with their parents. Nobody needs a smartphone. A regular phone can text and call people. The extra "perk's" of a smartphone are not needed.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
^ THIS ^
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
Maybe smart teens don't need a phone after all...
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
man thats nothing
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Bleach?
[Off-topic] cashyftw:
I'm a teen, and I have a smart phone, super smart to be exact. I use twitter, Facebook instagram all those social apps, porn, camera, you name it. Yeah I could of bought some crappy phone, but what's the fun in that? I work, so I guess I have an excuse? If I didn't work though, this phone would of definitely been under the Christmas tree for me.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
yeah i watch the episodes from the browsers, thats why they're so high
[Off-topic] :
I have a low end phone and I payed for it. My parents would never buy me a phone nor do they let me use my money how I want for the most part. I didn't realise how many people had their smartphones bought for them by their parents..
[Off-topic] sohamssd:
I am 16 and I have HTC one v

I don't think there's anything wrong with buying a teen a phone because its his decision on how to use it. Teenage is the most formative and learning period. If you are preventing your child from being close to technology then that's horrible.
[Off-topic] mhoss48:
I'm 16 and have an htc one x , but i worked it l. I owned a galaxy nexus and a galaxy ace both were rooted and on both.i flashed all of the roms out there and kernels. I think there are two types of teens, one type are the teens who want a smartphone for bragging and the other ones ( me) who use the smartphone as it should be.
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
I'm 17, pushing 18, and I know how useful my phone has been. I use it to keep track of all my classes and tuitions, use it for navigation, alarms, music, watching videos, flashing ROM's, taking pictures, calculation, checking my mail, reading books, playing a bit of games, and so much more stuff.

So, for me, a smartphone has proved to be extremely useful.

If your teen is going to do all that, I suggest you buy him/her a galaxy nexus off-contract. Pretty cheap, and extremely useful. But make them earn at least half the money(which I had to do). They need to learn the value of money.

And even though I spend quite some time on my phone, I never lost touch with my childhood. I'm always outside, I'm an avid basketball player and I play for my school team.

But, many teens nowadays just want an expensive phone to brag about or to show off. For instance, a friend of mine has a galaxy note 2, which is about 700$, and uses it only for email and Facebook! I put my 300$ galaxy ace to far better use!

I believe that a teen should only be bought an expensive phone if they are really gonna put it to use and not because they wanna show off.
[Off-topic] _Variable:
Age : 12

My gtab2 7.0 is only about $390

Uses

Call

Text

Fb

Xda

Read news

Calculating stuffs

Email

Games

Music

Videos

And god knows what more i do.....
[Off-topic] thumbd03803:
The biggest problem is"smartphones are still expensive"

Some of my friends just use smartphone texting, facebook, YouTube etc,and I think that is ok.

What I hate to see is there is galaxyIII S in his hand.

You pay so much to get a hight spec phone only for these?:sly:

sent from my Sony Xperia Sola
[Off-topic] Pat.:
Well god isn't a member so that's a dead link

:D
[Off-topic] EP2008:
You must not be a business person... my smartphone allowed me to replace my computer (among other smaller gadgets ) to do my job.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Yes it can be very helpful and convenient, but it is not needed. Terns could use their phone to take notes, but they don't need to, because they have paper and a pencil.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Usexy:
My problem is simple, i'm tethering my Wifi Nexus 10 to my Galaxy S3 and the S3 just doesn't have the staying power of the tablet and the AP is battery intensive.

I have considered:

Extended battery (unofficial) - don't want the bulk.

Extended battery (official) - not cost effective.

The other option would be usb otg and charger cable but I'd like a single cable if possible.

To make it clear - I'm looking for a double ended micro usb (B) cable.

If anyone knows of a reason this wouldn't work please do say :o
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Joaco:
You could use this adapter with your original cable to see if it dies the job.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Right-Angle...006572?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27ccd180ac

I have the same setup (nexus10 and s3) let us know if it does work.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Darbley:
You could try monoprice.com. I get all of my cords and such from them.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] MrHat001:
eBuyer tend to be pretty good for this stuff.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] fbrozovic:
Just FYI, I tried this using an OTG adapter and a standard USB-A to USB-B micro cable. Depending on which side I plug the OTG adapter into, the S3 charges the Nexus (when the adapter is plugged into the S3) or vice versa (when the adapter is plugged into the N10).

EDIT: It would be interesting to try though what would happen if one was to connect the four pins (VCC, D+, D-, GND) directly to one another, with the ID pin being left unconnected (since that is what a Micro-B to Micro-B cable would most likely do). My guess is that nothing will happen, since neither of the devices assumes a master/slave state and so it doesn't know that it should supply power to the other device. I guess I need to order some Micro-B plugs at Digi-Key and whip up a cable...

--fbrozovic
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] treIII:
I have 12 mbs internet at my house. When I connect with my phone and run a speed test I get around 6 mbs. At the very same time with my computer I get 11 mbs. I have best wifi performance checked. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks too.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] IAmSixNine:
Ive heard people report that best wifi performance is a battery hog and doesnt help..

also is your using speedtest.net app try to select different locations for it. I have 3 servers in Dallas that i can choose from, and occasionally 1 of them gives me slower then normal readings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] larkhillv:
OK, so yesterday I shared my calendar with my GF and my calendar was able to sync on her calendar app just fine. Today, she shared her calendar with me, and it won't sync with my phone for some reason. I can view her calendar under Google Calendar on my desktop, but it's not visible in my gapp. We are both using the Galaxy Nexus. I have tried force stopping the app and clearing data, but it did not work. I have refreshed it several times. I looked in "calendars to display" and "calendars to sync" within the app, and still only my account shows up. I looked at the desktop version and it says that I have access to view all events. Does anyone know how to fix this, please? :(
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Lutschie:
Hey everybody,

I found this in the Galaxy W forum.

Its about build.prop modifications. Maybe some dev could take a look and See if this is usefull for us :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34802470

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AndroidiusMaximus:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2029211

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] DreamerTKM:
Maybe you should change the title...a title named [Tweak][CM10] Build.prop will make other people misunderstood that you managed to come out a mod to improve the CM performance but end up it just and only a REQUEST zzzZ
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] t0kgrumps:
next time if you have mods to share from other phones post them here
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Lutschie:
Sry :/ next time i'll post in your thread

EDIT: title changed To avoid missunderstandings

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