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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
What's interesting about this thread is that I don't think anyone who claims teens do NEED smartphones has been an adult, over 25 so their brain is fully developed.

Even a large portion of the teens admit it isn't needed. Ichigo is a good example. The only ones saying it's a need are those that don't have the life experience to even know what their own needs are.

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
14 here. True. I don't use a SmartPhone, except you cont my R800x, but that no longer works. I only need a Tablet. Hmm... Maybe a thread called “ Why Teens don't need a Tablet"

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
You don't need a tablet.

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Oh no, its happening. Yeah, I don't need it for survival. But guess what...... Yes I do need it. My school gave it to me as a award for Exceeding and for the Highest Score on a State-Wide Test. And I need it because my Kindle is the place where I do my Projects, and Presentations.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
No, you don't need it.

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
:confused::confused::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
If your school requires its use, I'll concede it as a need. Otherwise, it's merely something you benefit from and quite possibly deserve.
[Off-topic] naxsandbew:
i think teens need a smartphone, it can make them rich on technolgy and maybe they can start to have their own online shop ^^^^
[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Finally, someone knows. I do require it for school projects and what not. And also I use for my own personal entertainment(To the point I installed JellyBean.)

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I use my smartphone for everything.

- Amp Milk
[Off-topic] matgras:
+1

I make a part of my homework on tablets which works surprisingly well, although the use of tablets is not required, it is encouraged.
[Off-topic] Danial723:
Not a teen, but I need a swiss army droid.....with a toasting app
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
I was more referring to textbooks being e-book only, and every student having one. If even a single student has a passing grade without a tablet, it's not a need at your school.

Again, though, I do believe many teens deserve tablets and smartphones.

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[Off-topic] lars1216:
My sister has that. Every single text book is in an iPad app. And I was there at the presentation being all like why not use e-books and let us buy the tablet of our choice (be it android, windows or iPad) they didn't think that was a good idea for some dumb reasons like: iPad is easiest to use. First of all my grandmother of 66 can use an android tablet Daily, and second I didn't say that students can't use iPads if they want too, I just said there should be a choice by using a multiple devices platform for the textbooks. Than they were quiet and quickly moved on to the next question.
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Yep, therein *shudder* for all intents and purposes, an iPad becomes a need in order to continue to function in your current society.

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[Off-topic] lars1216:
Yeah their becoming just like Windows. In daily life almost all tablets you see are iPads. Only my fellow tech nerds are using android tablets. Which is weird cause almost everyone around me has an android phone (all samsung galaxy's cause those are most advertised but thats a different story) so you would think atleast half of those android phone users would get a android tablet right? Well they dont, almost everyone has iPad if they have a tablet at all.
[Off-topic] teamgeny:
http://pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Teens-and-smartphones.aspx

I think we can't do nothing... It's the futur! In France (my country), they are 60% of the less of 18 to have a smartphone.
[Off-topic] nerotNS:
I'm 17 and I know my needs. If you didn't notice, there are TONS of RD's RC's and RT's that are under 20 years old, many being younger than me. So if we decide to develop android for a living you can't say "we don't know our needs" if we've decided to earn money from it. Ichigo is a bad example because he's stubborn and his "no you don't need it because I know better than yourselves" kind of responses show up to that. No offense to him but he probably has a "I didn't have it so why should you" kind of complex. And calling kids stupid? Well I bet there are thousands of younger members here who are 10x times smarter than him. (Especially considering that he's a kid himself)

On a sidenote, I also use a tablet in school, because it's easier for me, and teachers encourage the usage of modern technology in class. It's more economical too (for example doing a presentation or some study on a tablet doesn't cost you paper/ink to print it)
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Trust me, kid, you don't yet have the capacity to understand what absolute needs are. It's simple biology, combined with lack of life experience. Come back to this thread in 10 years and see if you still think the same way.

I'm well aware of the abilities of all the young developers on here. They don't need to dev. I benefit greatly from the fact that they do and appreciate it. That still doesn't make it a need.

I don't presently NEED a smartphone, either. I have been in situations where I couldn't have effectively done my job and supported my family without one, which is as close to needing one as you can get. Right now, I don't. I could find other ways to get things done.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Look, becoming some kid programming prodigy and even making millions of dollars doesn't mean you need it. Programming for Android for a future living still doesn't make your phone necessary.

As for kids being 10x smarter than me... 10x smarter than me would either mean I'm mentally disabled or they are a crazy smart genius. And just for your information, it's you bring stubborn.

PS: I'm not stupid. You'd be surprised.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
The fact that you generalized and said kids are stupid on an open forum only makes you look like a five year old brat, who hasn't got better things to do. And "bring stubborn"? Not sure what that means. I respect your opinion, but it's plain wrong for you to tell other people do they need something or not. I said teens benefit greatly and that SOME OF THEM need a smartphone, I didn't go out and said YOU need one.

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You trust me, adult, I indeed DO have the capacity to sort my needs out, I've been through enough stuff which I won't share on a forum, that has proven my statement right. You can't make claims for me if you don't know me.
[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
I don't need my phone or my tablet.

But that doesn't mean I don't WANT them!

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
But I pretty much am a 5 year old brat. I don't need you to tell me that. Nobody needs a smartphone. Period. Nobody. You just are too stubborn to admit that I'm right. I never claimed kids are stupid. I don't know where you got that from. Please don't make stuff up.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
You edited the "Why are kids so stupid???" Part to be removed. It can be seen that from the guy who quoted you bellow. I'd back off now if I were you. Lying isn't a good thing here...
[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
Shhh...

Let the little boy play his games.

He's having fun.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Why doesnt the mod close this thread?

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Ditto. Watch what you say. You're getting on my nerves.

No. I'm being serious.

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[Off-topic] DowntownJeffBrown:
Ftfy

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Well, good thing I have a screenshot then. Just give me a min or two to upload it
[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
It's very old.

Is that 100% the truth?

Because this PM says otherwise

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Please do. Please show me your photoshopping skills.

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[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
Aha :rasta:

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Well this is interesting.
[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
It is, isn't it? :)

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Yeah, guess what, I can use Photoshop too :rolleyes:

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Well, don't say I didn't warn you.

I'm serious kid. Dead serious.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Thanks for this. I will show it to the mods and see what they have to say about it.

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This doesn't appear to be photoshoped, and it certainly fits him.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Oh, you're gonna tattle on me?

Somebody seems butthurt.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
This community doesn't need (ironic i know) members whos only purpose is to spam (as proven in the pm screenshot) as well as rude as proven in the screenshot I'm uploading at this very moment.
[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
Do your worst, but I'm not gonna sit around while you flame, troll, lie, and derail threads.

Cheers :):thumbup:

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*whose

Get your grammar straight, boy.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I don't just spam kid. I just hang out in OT and occasionally troll.

Let them ban me if they wanna. I could care less.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Autocorrected by error. xD
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Error? What keyboard is that? I've never heard of it.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Also calling your elders "kid" only shows what kind of a person you are.

Miss click on Google Keyboard if you must know.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Aren't you only 17?

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lol. Wow...

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[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
He passed the line of "trolling" a long time ago.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Did I?

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No...

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[Off-topic] Android Pizza:
You most certainly did.

Really? :rolleyes:

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No, you're obviously confused, poor boy.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Oh, I forgot. Pasta's an expert in trolling.

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[Off-topic] linkman88:
I'm 18 and my smart phone has my life so much easier and organized! The calender app makes everything so easy, all my contacts are in order so I always can contact the people that I need to talk to. Whether it be work, school, or friends. I don't have to carry an ipod (THANK GOD!!!!!!) and a phone anymore because I have a nice memory card in my phone that stores my music. It has a nice camera to share memories and record them. I thought I would be playing more games on it, I was wrong (except I played a lot of pokemon when i was touring Europe). It also taught me responsibility to keep track of what I am doing and when. Plus i have learned so much about software from using it.
[Off-topic] EP2008:
You're a legal adult. A smartphone would be a useful tool for you. I think that when we talk about "teen", I get the impression that it means 13-15 year olds (my 10 year old has a friend with an iphone :what: ).

I'll never forget when I heard that my teen cousin ran up a text messaging bill of over $900 in a month. If she was paying for the service, that would likely never had happened.
[Off-topic] linkman88:
Truth but I have one since I was 16, and it serves well. In the town I live in there are 8,9, and 10 year Olds with iphones that is a little ridiculous. You can teach your son the value of a smartphone with an ipod touch and once he proves that, you can award him with a smartphone.
[Off-topic] rr5678:
To add on to this, there have also been many times where my smartphone has saved my tucus. Wrong addresses, unknown directions, etc.
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
But really, you shouldn't be leading your life using online articles.
[Off-topic] teachmeluv:
Nice stuff to read. Lol
[Off-topic] _Variable:
Im 12 and i have a galaxy tab 2 (as a phone) and a thinkpad edge. For photography i have a canon a2200
[Off-topic] Devildog78965:
Well I feel teens do need a smartphone for the right reasons being (1) safety (being able to call you in emergency)

(2) communication (being able to commuicate with the technology world) nothing bad just like school stuff and news

(3) APPS! (Apps like every note etc help them keep up with school notes)

REASONS OF TAKING THE PHONE AWAY!

(1) texting in class

(2) bad grades

(3) not doing daily duties (chores...etc)

This is the way I feel about phones for teens and op if your son wants a smartphone make him work for the phone and buy him a prepaid plan like straight talk $45 a month but don't let him get a iPhone or nothing just like a galaxy nexus or a HTC sensation etc...

Also the bulluing thing is just crazy who bullies about a piece of plastic with glass on the front? Happy newyear :)
[Off-topic] droidbabyxda:
i agree 100%... especially with certain kids who cam easily be influenced by peer pressure. my lil brother was like this growing up, he is super smart but for some reason he "finds" friends that shall we say more of .... unruly kids... so we managed his social life well into early teen years. I think it depends on what type of kid you get, they all come with different instructions. :D

as for celphones, i dunno mine is still only 2 yrs old. maybe by his teen years celphones are obsolete already.
[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Not true at least for me...I can type a lot faster on my phone in landscape than writing by hand.
[Off-topic] hyun18:
You dont need no article or anything to give teens smartphones .

If anything, id think theyd have better use of it than adults .
[Off-topic] _Variable:
My mom has an iphone 4 to text and call.
[Off-topic] hyun18:
My mom has one but she doesnt put in the her sim so she doesnt need to pay for data plan .she has like 5 pics
[Off-topic] TheGoD:
Have you mabey linked to the wrong article? There is no list of reasons for not buying a smartphone, all it says is to watch out, subsidized smartphones cost you more then the initial 50 - 250 bucks. Actually the article states that it makes alott of sense to give your teen a smartphone:

However, the teenage years are the most memorable part of a person’s life. An iPhone is a camera in your pocket all the time. It will allow your teen you to capture all of his most important photos. It is up to you decide how important documenting your teen’s life is.

If you take into account that your teen son or daughter most like has more free time than you, goes out or on trips more than you, has more friends and meets new friends, love interests/sex partners more often than you, has alot more waiting periods to cover (for example by using public transit), are in more need for walking directions and transit information than you I would assume that your kid probably needs a smartphone more than u do.

So don't by it a iPhone or some other expensive phone. Give him/her 200 bucks (or what ever u can afford) to by an unsubsidized phone and let him make up its own mind about it.

And a laptop or a big screen tv, those are things that are more valuable to you than to your kid! He doesn't have a car (most likely) to transport the laptop and it doesn't suits its lifestyle all around. And big TV isn't that cool if you just have a small room to watch it alone.

Are kids today really less educated then lets say 20 years ago? By what standard anyway?
[Off-topic] vizzy:
I have an accountant friend who's 22 and he just uses it to send pictures of his d**k to girls.

Also a lot of girls at uni just use smartphones to take mirror pictures with their clevage out.

So putting people who learn android aside, theres a lot of people who shouldnt be aloud new tech.
[Off-topic] winappleworld:
I agree with your point. Teens now a days use smartphones only for Facebook and games.

If smartphone is used in a smart way, it can make one's life easy. reading books, travelling is what its true use is.

But its a trend of using Smartphone for accesing facebook, whatsapp, games and other such waste of time stuff.

Though smartphones now cover almost 65% of the world approximately
[Off-topic] gagdude:
I don't see how using whatsapp is a waste...? phones are meant for communication and whatsapp is just a faster and cheaper alternative to SMS
[Off-topic] xXckkillerXx:
That is litearly the saddest thing I've ever heard, if my mom never bought me a smart phone I don't know what I'd do. I'm on it 247 listening to music while playing basketball / skateboarding ; Social media ; texting ; gaming ; even when I'm too lazy to go to my Mac for school work I use Google docs to complete school work
[Off-topic] Pat.:
Disagree entirely that they shouldn't be ...allowed . . . the accountant could still use a camera & email the pics without a smartphone & if he lived 40yrs ago he may have been exposing himself on the street.

The girls at uni you mention would have thier cleavages out without phones ... all your describing are some extremes in behaviour of young peoples unstoppable urge to procreate.

That isn't caused by smartphones.
[Off-topic] Soryuu:
I saw this thread come up, and well, I'm 15, turning 16 next month.

My opinion is this.

It really depends on the teenager.

The Galaxy S I type off is two years old. My dad got it when it first came out (all that craze I still remember).

He got an S3 in May (again, when it came out -.-) and so my mum gave me this S because it was hbeing disused.

At that point and time I was using a Galaxy 3 (GT-I5800). And because of its size and processor I didn't really use it for much except texting, trying to use Facebook and music.

So when my mum did give this phone to me on a Tuesday night, she made me promise that I'd never make her regret giving me my dad's old phone. And I said yes.

And even though I do love this phone and use it for a lot of things (Facebook, G+, XDA, music, videos, games, texting, navigation when I need to, stuff for music and so on), I've tried to adhere to that promise.

Parents- I think smartphones should be a matter of trust. Especially with higher-end phones. Coming from a teen; if a teen feels capable of taking care of any smartphone, not abuse it and can prove it to you, let them have one. I know people my age who would benefit immensely from a smartphone.

They don't neccesarily need the latest phone (ignoring how much of a hypocrite that makes me, its true). Someone in this thread mentioned that the Galaxy and Nexus S are dirt cheap now that they're two years old. And if your child isn't into the endless depths of Android, firmware and custom roms and all that jazz shouldn't really matter- just so long as it does what its meant to do.

By all means though, there are some teens that have smartphones that don't need them...

So I'd say its up to how a teen can handle and utilise a smartphone, and whether they can do it correctly or not. And if you can trust them to do that, by all means, let there be smartphones.

But hey. My opinion only.

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[Off-topic] gagdude:
Don't want to be that stupid/retarded guy, but

That was me!
[Off-topic] kdacaret:
I think that having a smartphone significantly improves your life and makes it easier. youth are most of the users, but adults have learned to use them and make them a tool for work, for fun, to improve quality of life.

regardless of the generation of the phone, always going to help
[Off-topic] EP2008:
Many would argue that NOT having a smartphone improves quality of life. I've witnessed teens wasting days on end with their face glued to their screens. If that's life, we've gone downhill.
[Off-topic] Pat.:
Maybe they are posting on forums :)
[Off-topic] madman80:
A blackberry is enough for teens. specially if they are girls. they love to keep in touch and the analogic keyboard. Trust in me, they don't need more but if you want you can buy them a more expensive smartphone. There are teens and teens. I would not buy a blackberry to my son if I was Steve Jobbs' father.
[Off-topic] Dulanic:
I'm very glad I grew up before smartphones. Kids are so anti social now. I loved growing up getting into trouble and going outside to go hang out with friends.
[Off-topic] Hjax:
Well I am 16 and i use pretty much every feature of my phone (except i hate facebook and twitter). But I certainly know people who only use their iPhone 5s (or HTC One Xs) for youtube, texting, and facebook. Personally i find that very annoying.
[Off-topic] Chrissyboy101:
Woah there!

I'm 18 and my ZTE V970 is extremely useful for far more than games. I'm at university and use it to access multiple email accounts, schedule my work and other activities and for music. As it was £130 and I use a 16GB microSD, It actually saves me £40 on getting an Ipod touch. I am even trying a great app that helps wake me up at the best possible time using data from the accelerometer (Sleep as Android)

Smartphones can be very useful in the right circumstances, it is a matter of picking the right phone for the right person. Issues of price and uses can be solved by this.
[Off-topic] tanner4137:
I agree with your statement. I bought my first android phone with my own money in the 8th grade on Virgin Mobile. I have escalated up through higher end devices by trading or selling and now have an HTC One X, a Galaxy S III, and an Asus TF-300T and am now 16 years old. In doing all of this, I now have a much better understanding of electronics and software. I've even started compiling ROM's! I believe it's taught me to value things more and take care of them. You should start your son on a Galaxy Nexus and get him to explore all of the modifications he can do with Android. I know that when I did, I never wanted to get an iPhone, even though all of my friends to this day have them.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
This is a pretty stereotypical statement. If you observe a child being anti social, the biggest factor is parenting and not technology. If you can discipline your kid well, they know not to spend their life on their phones. However, if you fail; the problem is not the phone.
[Off-topic] Danial723:
A thanks? But but how?
[Off-topic] tomascus:
As a teen I use my smartphone for almost everything - keeping organised, taking down notes, ordering pizza, online banking, calling, gaming, taking photos, shooting videos, etc. Quite an impressive device that allows me to improve productivity and organisation, I hate writing :(

I just think that parents shouldn't buy their children anything as expensive as a smartphone like my parents, I spent long and hard hours working at KFC to make $1000+ to pay for my HTC One X on a 2 year contract. Teens need to learn the value of money.

Oh yeah, I sometimes rather use it as my alarm clock than my actual one...
[Off-topic] omario8484:
This where I live its just a bunch of pretty wealthy kids that their parents buy them whatever... None pay for their iPhones which literally everyone has... So many kids don't know the value of working for something and these likely have parents that just let them go crazy and stay on phone all day....it's the not the smartphones that make kids anti social it'd how you grew/grow up
[Off-topic] Thats OK:
^^^^^^^^^^

Agreed wholeheartedly!

When I was young a baseball diamond was the best babysitter in the world.

When my kids were young our swimming pool was the best babysitter in the world.

...goes without saying what's got everyone's attention in these latter days.

*Neither the wife or I have smartphones.