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[Off-topic] EP2008:
I think we're arguing over semantics now.

By replace, obviously I mean that smartphones can do the majority of the tasks ( and more) vs a compost. 100% replacement would be impossible due to the completely different form factors.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
For the average PC user who only uses it for Word/Excel/Email/Internet tablets and smart phones can completely replace a laptop. For people who need the extra processing power, or access to more advanced software sure the computer is still needed. But you aren't looking at this through the eyes of the general population, you are seeing it as what you need it for.
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Im also teen, i live in country where is verry bad financial situation.. I live in five-member familly in which just my mom have a full time job(550eur(probably nothing for u but that is very good)) and dad have job in summer time(about 180eur).... and every month bank takes 200eur from us because of credit(we buyed house on credit)... all of u probably have summer and winter holiday but not me... I was saving money to buy sgs2(longer than one year) and finally i buyed it and can u imagine how a lot i care for it? Never droped it, it don't have even a single scratch... im very good at school(we don't have A B C D... we have 1,2,3,4 and 5 and i have mostly 5 and 4) ... also i love programming.. im using my s2 as much as it can be used, flashing roms/kernels/mods, a lot of useful apps and other things... ok, to be short i can't told u buy him or don't buy him a high end smartphone, it's ur decision...

Now when i buyd sgs2 i see that i made a wrong decision, i should buy galaxy nexus(s2 is very good but sammy wont give us a exynos source codes so many devs give up their hands from s2 developement :( ) but what i can do now? Nothing...
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Exactly why I said a tablet cannot replace a laptop - that was what I was trying to say with my initial statement. (the and more is untrue, unless you want to count something like running Android or portability as an advantage then I'd give that to you).

No, in fact I am not saying this through my eyes or the general population. I am saying tablets cannot replace a laptop period based on what they can do, and a laptop will do anything a tablet can do but not the other way around. I am sticking to facts. However, there is a large population of people in the working class and many businesses provide their employees with laptops, not tablets, so there is a large population that could not use tablets in place of their tablet.
[Off-topic] danieljordanmaddux:
For those of you who are against giving teens phones. Its all about responsibility. I'm 19. I've paid for all my phones. (except my current s3 which my mom bought for me for my birthday unexpectedly) I always took good care of my phones because I understood how much money I had to spend on them and how hard earned the money was. I say if your kid has their own money. Don't control what they spend it on. Let them learn the value of money. And how to make good investments. If you don't. They won't learn how to save. Money management is most easily learned as a kid because you don't have steady income. So you must learn how to save to get what you want. Also, many young teens get into development due to phones because when you spend so much money on a phone you want to get everything that you can from it before having to make the same investment again. And with technology progressing the way that it is now it could wind up being a very good thing.

Here's a perfect example of why you shouldn't limit your kids:

http://m.popsci.com/science/article/2012-02/boy-who-played-fusion?page=all

He was successful because he had the support of his parents. The other kid who was just as smart but didn't have the support of his parents ended up in jail.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
Lawls
[Off-topic] atman8r:
Yeah I bought a tab210.1 and then rooted it, thinking it would help me replace my busted laptop. Now I have a 350 dollar tablet that I only use for Facebook and Netflix...

Sent from my GS3 running latest Illusion and LeanKernel;)
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
They make great e-readers too. I mostly use my XOOM for comics.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Let's be fair though. Without their smartphones, teens couldn't listen to "music" like Call Me Maybe and I'm Sexy and I know it. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] DanceOff:
Does the OP know most of the devs, themers and modders are teens !

I am also 15 :D

So if teens didn't had a smartphone there would be little dev and no dev in case of my phone because all devs are teen in my device forum :p
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Not true at all.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Oh, silly me. :rolleyes:

I forgot about those.
[Off-topic] DanceOff:
But you listen call me maybe ??
[Off-topic] Pat.:
My smartphone has completely replaced my laptop.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Apparently you haven't seen THIS TABLET it CAN completely replace a laptop. /thread
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
It can't even be called a tablet. It has an i7 processor, 8GB team, 256 GB storage capacity! It's not a tablet. It's a touchscreen laptop with a detachable keyboard.

A beast nonetheless.:D
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
I never got any piece of tech from my parents, aside from my previous CPU for my 18th birthday. Had to save for and work for everything. Got my first phone when I was 12, had to pay for it with 4 years worth of pocket money (which was 4 euros a week.).

Thing is, I don't have debts, and I don't buy something I don't need because it taught me how to appreciate what I have, and how to handle money.

Don't give your kids a smartphone, let them earn it. If they're too young for actual employement, let them do it the oldfashioned way: paid jobs around the house & for family. Washing the car, mowing the lawn, washing the windows, etc.

This is the first time I regret buying my Infinity... :eek: That is one SWEET tablet! :D

Not sure about the 1366x768 res and W8, though. That resolution's a bit low for running modern HD PC games. And well, W8... :rolleyes: Also, with those specs, battery life has to be horrible.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
2 hours with solid gaming, not too bad.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
That is indeed quite decent.

Send from my Samsung Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk 2
[Off-topic] boborone:
Just look at the Q&A section for any device here and you'll see why teens shouldn't own a smart foan
[Off-topic] :
Ok, lets open thread named "why non teens don't need a car" ?! You can use a bike.. there is so many peoples which don't care for their cars... DO NOT GENERALIZE TEENS, there is teens which taking care about theirs phones and teens which not....
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Doesn't matter if they take care of it or not. Nobody NEEDS a smartphone. Especially not a teenager. If that bothers you then you need to get your priorities straight. All anybody NEEDS is food, water, air and a roof over their head.
[Off-topic] 4ktvs:
I think the point is that, it's not a right to have a car or smart phone. It does not just fall out of the sky just because they want one. They cost money and too many teen's today think that a new car + iphone 5 is in the bill of right's.

I don't really generalize any one, but the point again I think most or at lest me is trying to make is that a car or in this case a smart phone does not just fall from the sky because they are crying and yelling that they "NEED" it. That is all, if they have been good or you just want to nice then sure buy them what ever you want too.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Why do I have the nagging suspicion that Seky97 is a teenager?

That's more an argument for why teens shouldn't have internet access.... Also, for how much they lack IQ points, and that humanity is devolving...

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[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
Need doesn't always mean something which you have to have for staying alive.

Need may also mean something you have to have to function efficiently.

By the latter destination, I would think a smartphone is a need nowadays.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Sorry but no smart phones are not a need. Less than 5 years ago they were nowhere near as prevalent and 90% of users just use them as glorified feature phones anyway. You might as well be arguing that Facebook and twitter are needed too.
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
I do need my smartphone! I use it for social networking,youtube,games and XDA!
[Off-topic] gagdude:
so you will die without social networking, youtube, games, and XDA? :p
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Totally! I mean i will get crazy without having a phone. Also i need it to talk with my family members:Cousins,Aunts,Uncles and friends in skype or whatsapp. Its like Mandatory for me
[Off-topic] :
Oh and u are smartass?! U were born smart?! U never asked someone about something?! Teens shouldn't have internet access? IQ?! Srsly? I would never learn anything about programming without internet... Internet is miracle! U just must know how to use it....

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Okay, lets back in ~1800 year, here we have a car! But u don't need a car! Few years earlier they haven't car and they lived without a car. Same thing with smartphones, we don't need them but they made our lifes easier.

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Ok, u're right, they need to deserve it
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
1)Learn to spell. You're not helping your case.

2)Cars are needed now and days. People work really far away, and the world is different then it was back then. Cars are more proprietory.

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] :
English is not my native language so...

I guess that in early stage of cars they was as todays smartphones, expensive and not for everyone but 200 years later every familly have at least one car(in rich countries as usa), don't forget that smartphones are "young" and todays tehnology grows fast. As much as i can see from xda posts, people in my and yours country are different
[Off-topic] gesange:
So I am 18 years old and I worked very hard to get my EVO 3D off contract cause I just dont want to be tied to my carrier for 2 years because of a phone :P

I payed 680 Eur back then as the Evo came out in our country so the hard work payed off ;)

I still got to finish high school and I worked every day after school.....and even now I do because I enjoy when I get payed for work that Ive done myself :)

I think today to much Teens dont know how hard they parents got to work for the money they recive at the end of the month!

And yesterday i was shocked as I saw on FB that one stupid prick recieved as a gift a new iphone 5........he photographed it and wrote next to the picture:

So this is what I get from you for birthday?

Only this?

I hate you mom and dad!

( 15 minutes after that.....)

He has taken another photography with the iphone 5 totally ruined......glass broken and cracked too half.

Next he wrote:

So I did this to show you that you dont love me enough!

( the pics was deleted and he got beaten up by his father because he payed 950 eur to make his son happy)
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
To those of you saying "You don't NEED smart phones" actually I do. I need my smartphone for my job. Without my job I wouldn't have money. Without money I wouldn't be able to have shelter, food, or water. So yes I do NEED a smartphone.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Yes ma'am, he is a kid, and you're completely correct in that humans are devolving.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Well, you could always get another job. A job is needed.

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
You're not a teen though
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
What if the other job required the use of a smartphone as well? Saying I could get another job is asinine. My point is that some people do 100% NEED smartphones.

One of the interns we have working for us right now is 19.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
The average teenager who is in high school does not need one.

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] boborone:
I had a palm pda in high school.

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Oh, and who didn't know you were a girl? I've known that for some time now. You posted that looooooooong ago.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
This thing? :eek:

Was that like a smartphone back then?

The truth! I'm really a girl!

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I did?

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] boborone:
Before that. Had a liquid crystal screen with a stylus. No internet or wifi. Download all your mail, weather, notes, calender, ect everyday to it. It was the pda family that came out before the xda. The XDA had internet and such on it. Then they came out with phone variations that HTC made. Then the smartSMART phone world took off.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
19 is only a teen by definition. Especially of they have a job. What this thread is referring to is school age teens with no jobs or a minimum wage part time one that that still live with there folks. Teens like those, I find it questionable if they NEED a smartphone. It can help them in many ways like it helps many of us, bit that doesn't mean they NEED a smartphone.
[Off-topic] boborone:
Yeah, I think the only people you kept it from were the frat boys. I think the mafia knew. You either posted it there or somewhere else. But, yea, I've known.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
The irony.
[Off-topic] :
Sta kenjate bre vise koji kurac?! U Srbiji trecina radno sposobnog stanovnistva nema posla a ne ja jedan "teen" da imam posao od ne znam ni ja koliko stotina evra mesecno... stedeo sam i kupio sam sebi smartfon, moja stvar, ti idi lizi kurac ako ti se ne svidja...

If u understand okay, if not....

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Srsly?!
[Off-topic] boborone:
I totally read that in Mayor West's voice. Made it that much more funny.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Google translate FTW....

"What Kenji Bre more what the ****? 'In Serbia, a third of working-age population has no job and not one I "teen" I have a job since I do not know how many hundreds of euros a month ... I spared myself and bought smartphones, my thing, you go **** league if you do not like ..."
[Off-topic] iKoolkid:
Some teens may need it. Like me. Other frat girls or sorority girls DON'T.

Sent from my Galaxy S III
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Frat girls? :sly::sly::sly:

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] iKoolkid:
That was fast.

Sent from my Galaxy S III
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Yes I am. :cool:

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] iKoolkid:
Trololo

Sent from my
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I'm not trolling. I'm über fast!

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] iKoolkid:
Well I'm Chuck Norris.

Sent from my Galaxy S III
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I'm Bruce Lee fool! :rolleyes:

(The female version)

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
K. Teens don't need smartphones.

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] tallyforeman:
Frat girls = Sorostitutes :D

A toast from my Gnex aboard the Satisfaction!
[Off-topic] Pat.:
* Nowadays

* Than (different "than" it was)

* Proprietary

:-\
[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
Why did my post get deleted?
[Off-topic] :
u will never understand.... i said stop eating sh**! in Serbia, many people don't have a job, even if they do, they got paid average 200eur and u want to I, as a teen, work?! I want to earn money too, but that is impossible.. i was sparing money for more than one year and bought myself a smartphone so all of u can f-off
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
Yes. 90% people do use them as glorified feature phones, but the rest 10% actually NEED smartphones.

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+1
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
I delivered newspapers everyday to pay for my current galaxy s. And i need it to contact people. I think they should work for one, not just get one.
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Teens also don't seem to know the difference between 'need' and 'want'. Just because you want something, and 'all you classmates have it' does not mean you actually need it.

You do not need your phone to make notes. They invented Pen and Paper for that.

You do not need your phone to learn things. They invented Books for that.

You do not need your phone to maintain your social contacts. Your classmates are right besides you, and you see them all week.

You do not need Social Media. It is a luxury, not a requirement. I'm a graphic designer and Uni student, I don't have Facebook and get by just fine. My job revolves around the media, and I don't even 'need' my phone. It's just convenient.

You do not need your smartphone to be entertained. Boredom stimulates creativity and ingenuity.

You don't need your smartphone in school. You're supposed to be paying attention.

Thank you for proving my point in such an exceptionally spectacular manner.
[Off-topic] gesange:
Yes really

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Da brate for real.......ja bi ga nabio u dupe....

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You know.......i am asking me the self question.......if i were his father i would beat him up for this.......and he would need to get a job to pay me back on the iphone........
[Off-topic] gagdude:
I once visited a State Capitol (been to many, don't remember which one), and the tour guide told us that a senator had once walked in, left his mic on, and started playing Angry Birds. The music was caught by the mic and he was caught. They forgave him, however.

So who says adults don't get distracted at work?
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
They're allowed to get distracted though (not really but that's not the point) they are paying for their device. 90% of teens aren't.
[Off-topic] gagdude:
His post never said anything about payment. It was about how teens should not get a smartphone because they get distracted. Payment is not the point, actually :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] trell959:
As a teenager I must say, I'm glad my parents aren't as strict as some of you guys.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
You're a teenager?! :eek:

a.k.a. Urahara

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] DanceOff:
What phone you have?
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I think he has a GSII.

a.k.a. Urahara

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] trell959:
Yes...

I have a Nexus 4.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Strict doesn't necessarily equal mean. My parents were strict and because of that when I buy something for myself I not only take better care of it then someone who is used to being handed things but I also think I can appreciate it more.
[Off-topic] trell959:
I don't agree that strict means-mean either.
[Off-topic] boborone:
You're not the typical teen either
[Off-topic] sy224048:
I'm 14, I purchased every cell phone e I've ever owned starting with the flip phone I got in 2nd grade. It didn't have service of course, I just bought it because it was cheap and it looked cool. In the span of about 6-7 years I've had 2 Nokia's, a moto RAZR passed down from my mom, 3 kyocera phones, a blackberry, an lg dumb phone, a Samsung dumb phone, an lg optimus v, an HTC evo 4g and my HTC sensation, and I plan on selling whatever phones I have now to get myself a nexus 4.

I'm starting college next year and I'd say I'm pretty responsible. I've never post any phone nor had them stolen, and I always kept them on me.

So, while giving some teens a cell phone is a disastrous idea, it all depends on who they are. Its up to the parent to decide if they should really be carrying something like that.

sent from my x phone

"logcat? ehhhh, give me your address, I'll just mail you my phone"
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
That wasn't even English. GTFO.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
*Thanks*

a.k.a. Urahara

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Maybe this can get past the language barrier.
[Off-topic] InfinityFTW:
Hey! You! Yes-I meant you. 5 posts?! GTFO! And speak English as well!
[Off-topic] sy224048:
Hw bout I spk tu u lyk dis.

Nt cul, ees it?

sent from my x phone

"logcat? ehhhh, give me your address, I'll just mail you my phone"
[Off-topic] The Archangel:
This post gave me cancer.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Well that's not good. You should see a doctor.

a.k.a. Urahara

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] sy224048:
I'll let the picture speak for itself. Sorry if it's too big, it never resizes properly.

sent from my x phone

"logcat? ehhhh, give me your address, I'll just mail you my phone"
[Off-topic] #define:
My dad got me this phone a few months back... so I would stop experimenting on his... its my 2nd phone.. and my 1st android... my previous phone I got on my 19th bday, as a kind of reward for scoring good marks... and I have to say until I got my it, I never really needed a phone... now that I have it, I use it internet and music and stuff... but there was never a need to have a phone...
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
but the portabilty of all that is what makes a smartphone worth owning

cause you cant put all that in your pocket
[Off-topic] Felimenta97:
My teacher says: "Bored head is the factory of the Devil".
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Teens don't need smartphones because smartphone keyboards don't have an interrobang key.
[Off-topic] sy224048:
Ever tried kii keyboard?!

sent from my xylophone

"logcat? ehhhh, give me your address, I'll just mail you my phone"
[Off-topic] boborone:
You're a good kid. You have your head on straight and looking to the future, not only what's in front of you.
[Off-topic] sy224048:
My mom is strict as hell. If I so much as come home with anything less than a b+ she'll flip out. And if I get too many a-'s I might lose Xbox rights. She's threatened to take my phone away several times for things that seem tiny, and sometimes she has. If I don't have at least an hour of homework she gets suspicious. She even got all my teachers phone numbers and is on a first name basis with some of them. Thankfully I'm starting college next year and I should get some freedom.

sent from my xylophone

"logcat? ehhhh, give me your address, I'll just mail you my phone"
[Off-topic] boborone:
Dude you're gonna flip. Please don't OD when you discover drugs. And you can't OD on weed or shrooms.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I do all my homework at school. And I still have time to spend at least an hour at xda at school. All with 1 study hall. :cool:

a.k.a. Urahara

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Fungus is tricky. Maybe not physically dangerous on its own but it's not for everyone.
[Off-topic] boborone:
I also imagine he's in lots of AP classes as well though.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
My school is private, so all classes are AP.

If I do good enough my freshman and sophomore year, I can spend my Junior and Senior year at a local college for 2 years. Haven't decided if I want to do it yet.

a.k.a. Urahara

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] boborone:
True.....

Just be cool man and you'll make it through college. When you get there, change your number, file for FAFSA on your own, and don't look back. You will never know yourself if you don't take this opportunity and will never get that time back.

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DO IT!. I was listing to a TED talk today and the most regretted thing in America is a person's lack of schooling. If I could get paid to do it, I love to go to school for the rest of my life.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I don't know... I have two years to think it over.

My name's Jessica, but you can call me Jessica because that's my internet name

The truth! I'm really a girl!
[Off-topic] boborone:
It's just me, but I like learning. I buy reference like I'm stocking up for the apocalypse to start a school afterwards. Not much of a fiction person, but I can get down with some Applied Resources in Trigonometric Data Basing. Yea baby, I gots the swag.