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[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
Facebook is pointless rubbish. I've said it in '05 and it's still true.

Anything that spams me with 40 "(name) has facebook, become friends now!" emails a day gets reported for phising. (so yes, if your Facebook invite ends up in the spam box every once in a while, that was my doing.)

And since every bloody like button contains tracking algorithms that track even non-facebook users and significantly slow down any page, I have since '09 banned facebook through my hostfile, AdBlock Plus and NoScript.

Delightful silence and the CIA should do well to politely piss the bloody hell off.

If you didn't know they get a daily copy of the entire facebook database since 2007, then you have hereby been informed thereof. Welcome to reality.

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[Off-topic] hanisod:
I knew about that... they have everything about every user on Facebook :banghead:

Damn I hate it too

Totally agree :(
[Off-topic] Felimenta97:
I can not deactivate Facebook because everything and everyone is there. Half of school stuff is there on a group and I need it. My friends (and also other people) are there. My teachers are there. Facebook,as much as it sucks every possible info about you, which I don't care much,as I don't have much to hide and they won't be telling everyone I know about stuff I talk on chat to everyone else, it is there for me to use it. Google +, Twitter, Instagram, I use all of these, each with their own purpose and also just for the sake of doing BS
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
No disrespect, but this thread needs to die.
[Off-topic] bbrad:
Full disrespect for me the op is just a troll and the mods need to close this.
[Off-topic] Seraz007:
you don't say?

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[Off-topic] Hidden Username:
I'm 16 and had a smartphone since I was 12. Didn't seem to mess with my As and B's and never will. I find that article misleading in many ways.

Peer pressure was never an issue for me, and I bought my devices with my own money because simply I liked them.

But still though, I would leave my phone at home when going to school and I sold my phone and got my dad a tablet(This one) which belongs to both of us now. Not all teens are immature and people on this thread seem to be lucky to have such kids who don't rebel and take things for granted from their parents.
[Off-topic] Pat.:
"Teen" can be anything from an impressionable child swapping fashion tips with mates.... to a successful entrepreneur using a phone for international business deals.

The amount you limit you children's potential plays a big part in how they end up.
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Since I was a teen, I don't own a smartphone....i don't need a smartphone, i only need my tablet to live my life as a teen. I use my feature phone for texting and calling. I use my tablet to wach movies, read some .doc and .pdf, occasional light gaming, but mainly, to read english e-books, to perfect my enlish, because i live in Europe. My teen brother owns a smartphone, but he only uses it to text, to call, and to litsen to music.
[Off-topic] mani1999:
I ment do people with an age of 14, 15, 16 years really do android development?
[Off-topic] dave_k605:
If they are interested in it, yes.

Just think of what kind of doors it can open for then, much better than wasting all their time playing xbox. who's who to say anybody should do anything in their interests

What kind of inconsiderate question is that?
[Off-topic] Arteni:
Mmh, I think there is some teens who are programming in Smartphone, but only at 15/16/17 years. And think there is many rich child who can buy many many phones. But it's not thé problem. Teen doesn't need a Smartphone. But, we can agree that teens can have friends (look at our world....), with a good phone.
[Off-topic] Pat.:
Biggest problem i have with this thread is, the words "teen" & "smartphone" are to vague to have a serious conversation about suitability.

Do they still make phones without internet ? FB is a far cheaper way to communicate isn't it ?

Surely lots of people now like me don't bother with home internet connection or home "PC".
[Off-topic] Arteni:
Exactly.
[Off-topic] jkuczy16:
i just got my first smartphone last spring at the end of my sophomore year in high school; and now i am a junior. I feel that this time is a good time to get a teen a smartphone( before then it's a dumbphone). Having this phone has taught me more responsibility and further interest in android overall. Also let me say that i am at the top of my class (98+ average in most of my classes). My parents bought the phone for me as a late birthday gift, plus i had an upgrade available. I don't ask for much and my parents acknowledge that. I feel it's all the parents choice unless the teen has the money to buy one and the willingness to pay for the plan. Just my story and opinion.
[Off-topic] EP2008:
Unless they are old enough to sign the contract with the phone company and have a job to pay for it, a simple, prepaid phone is more than enough.

When did that change from 15 years ago, when I remember having to earn everything for myself.
[Off-topic] Pat.:
It changed because 15yrs ago you couldn't buy a secondhand android smartphone really cheap & put a prepay sim in it off eBay with included monthly data.
[Off-topic] darocks1999:
It's your money and your kids. You don't need to read article on Web to convince you not to buy smart phone for your kids or our advice either. If you feel good about it go for it if not dont
[Off-topic] goingcrazy614:
My 17 year old was stuck on the iphone bandwagon for years due to peer pressure but once he got his galaxy epic 4g and I rooted it with Paranoid Android he totally changed his mind. Buy your teen the peer phone and they follow the leader. Show them another way and they think for theirselves.
[Off-topic] rr5678:
Okay, I can stop that expensive argument in its tracks. Especially since I'm a teenager and I've paid for all of my phones. So try telling me what I can and can't buy with the money that I've earned.
[Off-topic] Felimenta97:
I speak as a 15 year old teen.

I saw a while ago a carrier tv ad with phone plans and devices for kids. Every kid on the ad should have around 9-11 years old. Every of then were using feature phones. I thought it was ok until there was a part saying that the moment of having the first smartphone is really good, and shortly after a pricing for Galaxy Y. Even being a low end device, I think it's a bit too much. 10 year old kids don't need a smartphone just yet.
[Off-topic] goingcrazy614:
Its not about buying the forsay, but peer pressure and maturity. My boy payed for his phone himself and I am proud of him for it.

Edit: when I was 15 it was all about the pager! Lol! Cell phones were bricks with backpacks! :)
[Off-topic] TimeAndroid:
I agree. iTouch Crap and iCrap 5 will just give you problems. Don't do business with a rotten Apple.
[Off-topic] 3clectic:
To smartphone or not ... to tech or not ...

Definitely agree with that. I have a few nieces and nephews who are still pretty young (less than 10 years). One of them hasn't been allowed to freely/openly play with technology (tablet, PC, smartphone) but can use/watch TV. The others haven't had that restriction. It is quite evident even at their age, how quick they pick up changes in the tech. They can pick up almost any of the family smartphones and tablets, as infuriating as that can be at times, and navigate to what they want (iOS, android, windows), where as the niece with less exposure almost seems afraid to use it and will normally wait for the others to come and assist her. Whilst this does seem trivial due to their ages and the niece is a timid personality, it is still quite obvious and who knows if this will continue into her teens. *don't get me wrong, these kids are outdoorsy and don't really like being inside during the day but if they have to be ... they can work with whatever tech you forget to put in your back pocket.

Definitely agree, with the world getting more and more screen dependent, I see familiarity with tech as an requirement/need, as opposed to 20 years ago. People now need PC's more so than they did 20 years ago and with AR becoming a real possibly, that would only mean more and more tech in our lives. Whilst a smartphone isn't necessarily equivalent to programming, it's getting people operationally familiar with tech, that's important.

Yea, probably don't "need" it per se, however, it's good for fundamentals, etc ... as above. One thing from previous posts is make them earn it. Learn value of money. Have many real world examples of the difference between people who value money and people who don't. Even if it's the value of what money can do for you (and not the actual money).
[Off-topic] M0rtiferrimus:
To the OP, it really depends on what range of teens your kid is in. 13-15, they don't NEED a smartphone, a dumb phone will work just fine, but even when I was in middle school there were a fairly large number of kids who had iphones. Now, in high school, almost everyone has a smartphone (and most of my 8th grade brother's friends do too). At 16, when they can drive, they should certainly have a smartphone, for the GPS navigation capabilities if nothing else. But communication is another big thing, and so is teaching responsibility. With no background on your situation, I can't recommend a course of action, but as long as you don't rush out to buy your kid a new phone every time they break theirs or a new phone comes out, they ought to have a pretty solid appreciation for their phone. Just let your child know that they are expected to have a certain level of responsibility with it, and that if it gets lost or stolen or broken they're not getting a new one.

If you're so concerned about the price, how about having your child work to help pay for their phone? When I was 14, I pushed my dad's lawnmower around our neighborhood almost every day during the summer and cut peoples' lawns to pay for something I really wanted. I made $700 that summer. Unless you live in a densely populated city, there should be some sort of work they can do to help pay for it.
[Off-topic] hanisod:
Mods

DOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIT NAAAAAAAAAOOOO
[Off-topic] Seraz007:
Noooooooooooooo

let the teens complain and whine ;)

i like it xD

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[Off-topic] hanisod:
Hahahahaha

Okay then xD
[Off-topic] bbrad:
When the op which is a troll is a adult #epic fail
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Exactly, it's settled, teens don't need a smartphone,

CLOSE THIS THREAD NAO!!! (Last sentence said in an Arnold Schwarzenegger accent.)
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Yes they do.

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[Off-topic] daniel98:
only teens that are not fags need a smartphone. only those who understand what a smartphone really is supposed to do ( by that i mean that it was not made for stupid **** like fb or stupid games) should own a smartphone
[Off-topic] bbrad:
No they need them.

CLOSE IT BEFORE ANY MORE POSTS
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
I grew up thru my entire teen years without a smartphone phone, yet, I managed to survive. I am living proof, that teens don't need a smartphone. Case closed. Thread no longer needed. My existence demonstrates without any doubt, THAT TEENS DONT NEED A PHONE!!!
[Off-topic] bbrad:
My career is going to be computers and coding I have all my college information I study coding on my phone on a daily basis. I don't need it but its going to help me in life a lot. Of course do adults really need a smartphone no? Does there need to be computers? No. Its more of a want I admit. That's all o got to say about that right now. (Regarding the attachment: If you haven't seen that movie you don't know comedy.)
[Off-topic] GrayBoltWolf:
I am unsubscribing. This thread is just going in circles.
[Off-topic] Simonna:
Because teens get smartphones addict so fast!

And I really hate when you communicate with somebody and he/she watches not to your eyes but to the phone's screen...:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] indomie88:
salut! it's good that you start early
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I believe that teens do, in fact, NEED a smartphone.

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[Off-topic] Gogeta:
+1

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[Off-topic] armyboy11b:
Uhh actually their is a need for computers... You realize how much **** is ran by computers?? Without computers we won't be where we at today
[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Old thread is old

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
There's a need for computers to survive? Tell that to the 1200's.

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Obviously, back then you only needed a (lit)candle, some paper and ink to have fun. But he is right computers have changed the way we live today for computers are responsible for modern technological advances. But smartphone are technically cheap computers fused with a phone.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Computers may have changed the way we live, but it doesn't make them necessary.

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Actually, we need them progress, to learn. How are going to learn about space with only a mere telescope. How are going to be able to study atom more clearly. How will you know you are building things correctly. How are you going to know if you are infected with some sickness., with only unknown symptoms?

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
None of that matters for survival. Necessities are things we need to survive.

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[Off-topic] clay101eve:
Very true. And yet, very false.

To survive, a computer, or any mechanical technology advancement by man, is not necessary. Look at some 3rd world countries. They barely have running water, much less computers/phones.

BUT, we don't live their. We live in the "civilized" domains. Computers and technology are around us and integrated into every part of Piotr daily lives. Want a cold soda? Go grab it from the refrigerator or soda fountain. Computers monitor the temperature, and dispensing, of the drink. Not to mention the manufacturing and distribution before there end consumer came into contact with the product.

Now, let's talk water. Turn on your faucet. No computers needed there right? Wrong, tell that to your local water plant. Going to work? Ok, so you ride your bike or walk. No computers there... But a computer driven machine made your bike (parts) and your clothes or shoes. Let's play devils advocate and say your bike and clothes are all handmade. Did a salesman deliver them to your home on foot or did you checkout (computers) at the local shop and drive home (computers in your car unless you drive a classic... Even then, they helped assemble your car (replacement parts) with the products in your bed/trunk/backseat.

So, in MODERN society, YES! computers are required for everyday life and survival.

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
Are computers heavily used in our lives? Yes. Are they heavily depended on in our modern civilized lives? Yes. But are they necessary to life? No. Granted, many people would die if computers suddenly disappeared from existence. Everybody? No. Not everybody depends on computers in this world. If anybody can live without computers, then it means computers are not a necessity. How about if computers never existed? Would we all be dead? No. We would have never learned to depend on them in the first place. What about real necessities, like food and water. No matter what, no person on Earth could survive without it. Computers are highly depended on in our modern society, but they are not necessary.

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[Off-topic] Gogeta:
Pfft, dem speeches:p

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Actually, we do need Technology for survival. But of course Technology means "a type of tool used for improvement of a task."

And by this I mean tools like hammers and what not. To get clean water we can make organic filters, that's a tech. To make a shelter we need some sort of hammers, nails etc., that's a tool. To make food we need tools like spears, knives (although teeth is good alternative) and to be safe, fire. And how does this relate to computer-needs-society-speech? Nothing mostly, butbi want to make it clear that technology doesn't mean some sort computer like gadget.

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[Off-topic] ironman38102:
Why isnt this thread is locked still? Cmon its going to be almpst a year if im not wrong

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[Off-topic] matgras:
Actually, nobody needs a smartphone, you don't need to see your emails every 2 minutes or make selfies in order to stay alive.
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
You're not a doctor and you don't know my life circumstances.
[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Teens not only use it for mail

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[Off-topic] matgras:
Of course there are exceptions but the majority of smartphone users does not need a smartphone that badly.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
But I am a doctor and I do know your circumstances.

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[Off-topic] galaxyfreak:
1. You posted a link why teens doesnt need iPhone. XDA is mostly android community, so, nobody needs an iPhone.

2. Lowend Android devices are actually cheap.

3. Lot of teens are Recognized Developers, so STFU Please. Talk about your kid, not general.
[Off-topic] mituzora:
I am on the "they need to have the responsibility to pay for themselves" bandwagon. I also don't think teens from the ages of 13-17 need a smartphone now. They want one but can get away with using a computer. I did just fine. Didn't get my first smartphone till I was 18 and paying for the service. It would be fine for them to carry a prepaid phone and a media device instead of a smartphone.
[Off-topic] persano:
i m a teen, and developer in kindle fire forum
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
Most of you still arguing that teen smartphone use is a necessity need to go back through this thread and read.

Benefit from, help others with, even rely on does not equate to need.

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Need computers to survive!? :eek: Tell that to this guy....

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Modern medicine, powered by computers has saved a lot of lives...Plus, we would probably have polluted water if it wasn't for our water plants and their filters, again powered and controlled by computers. Also many times, in dangerous situations computers helped save human lives, which otherwise would have been lost. Food processing as well. You say not all would have died. You don't know that. How can you be so certain that some virus, which has been exterminated by vaccines, would evolve into something deadly we couldn't stop? Overall tech IS necessary for everyday life as well as the survival of our race...

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Got my first smartphone when I was 15, didn't only use it for Facebook and other stuff. It helped me a lot in school (on the go information source for ex. , notes, reminders etc.). And I also learned a lot about Android, which helped me decide what I want to have as a job when I grow up (as well as massively help the development of the device) . That phone was paid by my parents as a birthday gift, and even though it was a mid range phone, I still respected it and cared about it. Recently I bought a nexus 4, paid for it by myself. I'm 17 now and I really believe that teens do need a smartphone but if they grasp it's full potential not just for posting pictures and statuses to Facebook and watching YouTube. Also it doesn't matter who pays for it as long as you respect the fact that you have it.

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Those are not the only uses of a smartphone...Plus some company owners and other businessmen DO need to check their mails very often and using a phone instead of carrying a laptop is a hell of a lot more convenient.
[Off-topic] Monty.728:
Smart phone diverts the concentrstion of teens so
[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Depends on the teen as well as the parents. Also the way used gives it's contributions.
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I don't think you grasp the meaning of "need". I don't care if computers save billions of people, they are not needed. Vaccines and modern medicine do save millions of lives, but they are not a need to survive. Maybe lifespans would be shorter, but it still isn't a necessity.

But, back on topic to smartphones. They are definitely not a necessity. 20 years ago, nobody had a smartphone. But guess what? They survived, because it wasn't a necessity. Even today, it's not needed for survival. I didn't get my first smartphone until 3 weeks ago, which paid for with my own money. I survived 3 years without it though. My brother just got his first smartphone at 19 two weeks ago. He survived without one. My 17⅝ year old brother has never had one, yet he's alive too.

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[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Need isn't defined only what's necessary for bare survival...And also I'll see if you care about modern medicine if you ever (and I hope you won't) get some severe health problem... Furthermore just because you don't need a smartphone for your daily life, doesn't mean everyone is like you.
[Off-topic] domini99:
I'm 14 and own an iphone.

*hides under rock*

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[Off-topic] Ichigo:
I never said I didn't csfe about modern medicine, but people have lived without it.

Anyways, someone who believed that teens need a smartphone are insane. Nobody needs a smartphone

Give me some reasons why you absolutely need s smartphone.
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I know 8 year olds with iPhones. It's depressing.

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I need a smartphone because I'm batman.

Your argument is invalid.

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[Off-topic] domini99:
I know, just cant understand.. My first phone was a nokia.

The worst of all: those 8 year old iphone owners think they are "cool"

Well what if i told you, an iphone wont make you cool at all.

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[Off-topic] matgras:
A Nokia, that's what makes you cool.

If my Nokia n95 wasn't broken I'd switch back immediately.
[Off-topic] domini99:
My n95 kept crashing.

So thats when i got a galaxy mini, and the whole android life began.

I want a new android as fast as possible, this iphone is boring me the f"ck off.

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[Off-topic] SuicideFlasher:
We are not all the same, i never used a single phone just to waste my time and i hate spending, but i'm forced to switch to an s4 mini because this acer dogsh#t that i'm holding right now keeps shutting down the sim card whenever it feels like it. I'm disgusted to the bone in seeing how stupid and weak kids are now, there's a reason why i hate crapple and industrial "music". My advice to parents is to watch our back to prevent us from giving in to this kind of sh#t, but to not interfere with our life. 16yo, over.

Our world is ruled by random, and random alone
[Off-topic] matgras:
My n95 was like the best phone ever, awesome camera and battery life and it just worked really nicely.
[Off-topic] domini99:
Mine had hardware damage... Wasn't a 3310...

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[Off-topic] matgras:
That was the only bad thing about it, they weren't water resistant
[Off-topic] nerotNS:
Already gave you one - jobs
[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Kid, kids, kids..... Calm down. We all know your points. No one wants to know if your parents didn't give you a smartphone, that you are a doctor or that you don't need one.

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[Off-topic] Danial723:
I think we should all just let this thread die
[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Already sent in a report. No need.

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[Off-topic] 404-Not Found:
Why is this not closed yet?:confused:

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[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Because it has not broken any rules......

PLUS IT SPEAKS TROOOOOF!! :o