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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Thanks for the suggestion but root (access to system files) doesn't give the rom special powers unless I'm willing to tinker, change or mod the files. ;)

That would be an option if FL27 weren't around the corner. I'll wait for it, if problem persist over there then root and change/mod system files will become an option. :beer::D

Edit:

Urrrggh! LOL what the heck... looking for a FL16 rom now...

Edit2:

Well tried PA and at boot need to start troubleshooting. - discarded

Tried AOSP same need to start troubleshooting after half hour. - discarded

I'm back to my trusty Full Stock.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] colonel.shepard:
What is MSC mode
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
USB Mass Storage (MSC) mode.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] byrdcfmma:
LOL, I guess you got another FC...

I know root access doesnt give you special powers, but I was thinking that somewhere in the stock no root version was not playing well with your app setup.

I am really liking Kobridge's deodexed rooted FL16. I have added ripple to lock screen, spiral gallery, and enabled tilt feature on the launcher, so far.:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I re-downloaded FL16 stock un-root tar again. I will let it run for a couple of hours if no FC I'll stay if otherwise I'll try Kobridge's deodexed rooted FL16. :good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Actually I have.. tried that is. Made a no data and a full restore tar..

It flashes fine (sorta) with a no data but a restore causes some serious fc's. The no data breaks the launcher.

With a no data, however, there are prerequisites that wouldn't save anyone any time with the process. You'd have to be rooted and on a current JB build. Steps that would require using a custom recovery anyway. So, no benefit. (I'm not promoting the newest exploit as that conversation is better left in that thread.)

I haven't given up on this.. Not saying it will work, but still trying.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
I haven't been able to tear that apart btw, nothing but errors when extracting:confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Yeah, that one is borked. I've asked a few experts for help. We shall see. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
I never got the memo. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
:( Thought i sent you that pm.. I apologize.

Trying a different way. Gotta be something simple on my part that I'm not doing. What's odd is that if I dirty flash on top of the build i take it from, nothing breaks. Meaning nothing is getting written.. Grasping at straws. Gonna try Rj's script and try it that way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vashtsdaytona:
im having really bad battery life with FL16. 6-8hrs tops and thats just sitting in my pocket. thoughts?

FL04 was getting me 18+hrs. I wanted to go back to it, but would need to do a full flash. i tried the nodata to revert (noob idea but thought i would try) it would never boot past sprint logo. flashed a nodata of FL16 and everything when back to normal, but still sad battery life. hoping FL27 hits soon, give that a try. or ill have to do a proper wipe back to FL04 which was pretty well perfect for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arionfrost:
Use the task manager to find out what is keeping your phone awake. Probably google plus or something that has to sync constantly. Do a little bit of homework to figure it out. Battery life on FL16 is better than anything I ever got on ICS.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FC809:
Just a quick question. Does anyone know if having the information ticker on the lock screen waste any extra battery?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
Anything that polls the internet and is running will drain the battery. So yes. But how much... that's a different story.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vashtsdaytona:
i have done some digging. nothing in the task manager, and my phone is pretty bare bones. i dont even have email set to sync. so when its in my pocket i cant imagine what could be running or trying to talk over the network. gps is off, its on wifi when im at home which is most of the day (work from home). i agree there must be more going on, but perhaps i am not qualified enough to find it. probably doing a full flash of FL16 would solve my problem. as many people are very happy with this build. there must be somthing off with mine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Try installing BetteryBatteryStats from XDA (or I have a copy in dropbox I can link you to via PM) and/or Gsam Battery Monitor from the play store. Both are very useful tools in diagnosing battery issues.

You can use the info from those apps and seek assistance in this thread. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22570714

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vashtsdaytona:
i have done as you suggested. the program tells me most of my battery is being used by the screen at 56% followed by apps at 37% with most active app as the web browser. however my total screen on time is just shy of 1.75 hours with a total time of under 8hrs. I also tried a full restore of FL16 with the same results. now im going to go back to FL04. my battery is not puffed and i have another battery to test with, with the same results. it will be interesting what happens when back on 04
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Using betterbatterystats, post screenshots of your kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks in the suggested thread and see if they can help.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vashtsdaytona:
thanks i will do that, once i have collected the required data. just went back to FL04 so far so good, but only been a half day on it.

but more importantly thank you for being so helpful and showing me where to go with future problems.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slixzen:
I have had some pretty awful luck with this release. While on vacation in Florida, my phone would hard lock at least once a day. One day, this occured three times, which required a battery pull to get out of.

There are other times, where the buttons, and screen appear to be frozen, but I still have music playing in the background from apps like TuneIn Pro or Subsonic.

The battery life isn't that great for me, I just got a new battery after I had a swollen one. FK23 seems to still be the best release I have tried.

I am running stock everything from the release (except I have it rooted). So this is bugging me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I think I found a new option.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] colonel.shepard:
How
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Application manager, hit the menu button.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vashtsdaytona:
Just thought I would pop in with an update. After going back to fl04 phone is running well. Been on for days now, and have doubled my battery life. Back up to 16 -18 hours with my level of use. So that's good. Only bad is I sometimes have international roaming. I live in central mn. I have update prl and profile, and I have never seen it before. I have roam control so I just lock it in local.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] metayoshi:
Yeah... The JB releases all seem to have "better" international roaming protection than ICS or GB. I actually have horrible Sprint reception myself at work, where my phone will randomly go roaming, and even roams internationally since JB has this new feature that prompts you if you want to send a text while roaming now. At least... I never had that prompt on GB or ICS with the same exact roaming settings, so I believe it is a new feature in the TouchWiz JB roms.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Always been there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
I did see your previous posts about this, and I'm sorry I need to ask - can you refresh my memory on what the operation he's doing and the issue?

Cosmetically? Nothing noted so far except Sync is back in the toggles. The sammy keyboard does seem more accurate than the previous builds but annoying enough with having to correct, I went to swype. Stay tuned for my observations on initial battery and usage.

Tray noted that under device admin, Sprint Phone is identified.

I'm not getting laggy responses like I was in FK23 and FL04 at times with the UI. Smooth transitions and apps responsive.

Yes it does.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] H4rryTipp3r:
Damn that's the only thing keeping me from flashing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SASQUATCH:
Thank you for a very good explanation sir. Now the hard part is to just wait :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayharper08:
Just a fair warning. I don't want to see any of the BS bickering back and forth roll over into this thread from the previous discussion thread. I'm good with names, so be careful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
Please test any errant apps as well please. I know Telenav was no longer working on FL04 build.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] uNiXpSyChO:
What was wrong with Telenav? I just used it today, with FL04, for 50 miles and it seemed fine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] whitegd:
Telenav works fine in FL04

I have also been using Telenav on FL04 with no issues.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
Can we adjust font size in these builds? I saw that option on the Note 2.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
My BT testing -

Technocel M4 Mini earpiece - Clear calls on both ends. Several calls with a couple over 10 mins.

Garmin Nuvi 2595lmt - Handsfree calling. Clear. Time was almost 40 mins on a conference call.

Work laptop T420 - Just paired it to see if it had pairing issues. Android SMS is the only service I see and don't use on the work laptop.

Hope that helps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
How much RAM does this build take up if you clear all your apps? Does it even make a difference? Even though you have the 4G toggle, can it work the same as ICS, I could never figure out the connection optimizer and what good it did? Again, this is from playing with the Note 2, understood its LTE bands vs WiMax bands. I'd just like the flexibility to turn on/off 4G when I like. Just like the current functionality. Perhaps a screencast of this would be good.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
This?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
LOL, ok I stand corrected. There were a few posts about it not working on the stock deodexed FL04 version that was released. Something must not have gone right with the conversion.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Stock, rooted, added maybe 10 additional apps, seeing 388 out of 800mb used.

Does effect scores in, say, Antutu, but as is, this is snappy,

Is that waht you're asking?

Connection Optimizer is meant to use the least battery usage connection and provide you with a better experience with speed and application usage. Or, that's the intent I should say.

In a perfect world and every location had Wimax, or if every household had wi-fi, this might be acceptable. Real world evaluations show a discord with this claim. Turning off wi-fi while the phone sleeps, for example, saves battery.

Yes the 4g toggle functions properly. While at home however, I don't have 4g service here and can't show you a screen cast of that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Locks in roughly 10-15 seconds.. Didn't use it in travel yet though. I can tomorrow.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Ouch!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
Perfect. Thanks. And the font size is exactly what I was looking for.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
I hope you are not one of those who is always looking at that ram number and if it goes higher, clear memory. Clearing memory will force close apps which will result in unnecessary wake locks and then bad battery. I was one of those who used to clear memory all day..

Swiping away apps from recent app list is efficient.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Connected with my Samsung WEP490 BT earpiece, and I had no issues. Went through the Talk Back tutorial with no issues as well.

Sorry I've been kinda MIA today. Wife has me busy.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SASQUATCH:
So does that mean don't clear memory
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] colonel.shepard:
You are not roaming internationally if you disable that option tho it will still warn that for some reason

Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] caaznkid:
I wonder where our official version of jb is... can't be far...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Not soon according to the magic 8 ball.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FitChicago:
Garwynn maybe get a second opinion from Miss Cleo? That Magic 8 Ball has been known to be snobby.. lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Screeshot of my source... :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vashtsdaytona:
my roaming settings are checked for domestic, and UNchecked for international. my roaming gaurd setings are UNchecked domestice and checked international.

so i spose it shouldnt actually roam international, and yup it sure does like to warn me from time to time about iweirsorta odd. :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] metayoshi:
You can say whatever you want, but it was not my experience. I can send a text in GB and ICS with the roaming triangle in my signal and it won't prompt me. It will just send the text. FK23 and FL16 will prompt me with options whether I want to send it now, send it if I'm domestically roaming, or send it when I move back to normal coverage.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Yeah I can say whatever I want. :beer::D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Take it to the pub fellas. Whiskey shots all around. Keep it friendly..

:D:beer:

And for the notification of international roaming, it'll be nice to see if this happens in future builds. Even though we won't be charged if we're actually conus..

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Have to watch it... a friend WAS even though in the Midwest. Took a while with Sprint to resolve...

And was on an iPhone so not isolated to this device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Yikes. (Going to review bill)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Yeah the round's on me!!! :beer::D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sydius08:
Thinking of trying this new leak out. How would one root it though? Is it possible to root it using ExynosAbuse?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Download the rooted one click.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sydius08:
Where would that be? I'm only seeing the stock Fl16 found here

http://www.sxtpdevelopers.com/showt...16-Stock-TAR-NO-ROOT&p=604&viewfull=1#post604
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2063904
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Exactly
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Well, good news, vibration seems "normal" but can't get it to scroll left right nor up down. Reflashing as we speak.. The tutorial lies! ;) :D:beer:

Scratch that.. I didn't have my fingers apart far enough.. Give me just a minute. I'll show you.

Worked fine for me. The pauses in the video is while she's yackin' away.. too bad screen cast doesn't get the audio.

http://youtu.be/4L8Zi1HbHLY
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Not by hitting the clear memory button. It force closes all apps that's how ram goes all the way down to 300mb to 400 and quickly climbs up some.

Linux kernel is smart. If it needs extra memory it will clear on its own.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I do look at it, I might hit clear ram a few times a day. Not too excessive. More than the swipig of apps. What's the best way to do it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
That trash can in the lower right corner clears all. No need to swipe anything if u just want to clear it all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FC809:
Wait, so swiping the apps away in the recent list does something? Sorry, I have always just wondered, and finally want to know lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
It closes them. Honesty I don't see any point to clearing ram on this device anyhow. It's got plenty and it's definitely not lacking speed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] byrdcfmma:
What font is in that screenshot, and where can check it out?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
Are there any new wallpapers in fl16? And after testing for a bit more, please be sure to comment about the battery life, versus fk23 and fl04.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] carole6m:
Here's a thread with all flipfonts

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1544428
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Its called Belligerent. It came out of a flip font pack, I think from the international thread. I honestly don't remember. Can throw it on drop box if you want it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FC809:
I was wondering too if we were going to get new wallpapers. I don't know why I care so much about something small like that but I do. Haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Looks like the same as FL04 for wallpapers. The nexus is still included in Live and ID wallpapers, although listed, is empty. Just a placeholder. Nothing new to report.

Doing battery trending now while I do "homework" for proper packaging. Will report soon on my experience.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] third son:
I got belligerent from the blu kuban rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Ah hah. That may have been it. :D:beer:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Swipe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] metayoshi:
I use the trash can in the recent apps list all the time. I do it mainly to close apps that I may have forgotten to actually "exit" (pressing the home button leaves them as active, whereas back->back->back->etc... will actually exit most apps), and not really to clear RAM.

I only do this because I have caught a couple of apps just sitting there consuming 15% or more CPU, and I haven't even used the app in a while. This causes random battery drain, and it's worse at work since I have almost no signal there. The two biggest culprits on my phone are Facebook and Engadget, but that's just because those are two apps I use all the time. That's the only reason I exit all apps pretty regularly now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Battery Info:

Ok, as I was going to explain earlier, and this is subjective to device, this is my impression so far:

Charging to 100% and letting sit idle seems better for me than FL04 and FK23. Not the odd rapid drain.

With the short time we've had this to test, the numerous times connecting and disconnecting from a power supply, this was my first opportunity to get a decent feel for it.

Take a look at the screen shots. Notice that Android system is listed ahead of media server, when in fact it doesn't appear that it should.

I will update again after a full cycle without connection to power.

If there are certain statistics that you would like to see, let us know.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rwilco12:
Post #2 has been updated with a summary of all of our findings! http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35696618&postcount=2

HUGE thanks to Moho and Tray for saving our bacon on this release and testing it all out for us! I honestly haven't even had a chance to flash due to work. :( If all the testing comes back as positive as it has been so far we should be able to get the go-ahead to release! And we'll owe it all to them! Make sure and hit their thanks buttons as many times as possible!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jonathanclary:
I knew it was a good idea to get a job that gives me 4 day weekends. I am addicted! Thanks so much for how fast this stuff gets posted. Looked into recovery but flashing is cheaper :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Foulwx:
Just saw a tweet from sextape that FL16 will be pushed at the end of the world. Yahoo!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] the_jon57:
Maybe this is just geek wet dreaming, but any chance the Toggles are now customizable? I seem to remember that surfacing on either a GS3 or Note 2 variant build recently... Can't find the link but IIRC the option was in Display settings.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jlear3:
Can one of the testers put a video on loop and see how long 100–5% takes?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Gonna go on a limb and say that we're back to 3/3.5 screen on time without changes to stock settings.

I can but you may be surprised before I can report.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jlear3:
Yayayayayya that's what I wanted to hear!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SASQUATCH:
So it's coming real soon?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jlear3:
For some reason Tapatalk isn't letting me edit or post thanks. Just highlights the post whenever I tap it. Thanks regardless and sorry for double posting.

Force closed it and solved the problem :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
One other note, and I haven't checked the prl thread, no emergency call notice on prl update and now on 21092.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
You do get that still with the profile update (reset only allowed to make emergency calls during a 30 sec countdown)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Ahh.. :D:beer:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
That started to happen on ICS FI27 too, it have nothing to do with JB builds. FYI ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Good to know. Never experienced it or overlooked it. Have this habit of hitting it, sitting it down, come back.. :D

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
It does it on EL29 now too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
It's wasn't happening before. Maybe is something new the network is throwing in while updating PRL now.

Exactly before PRL 60690 changed to 21092.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] miketucky350:
I remember when it first started. I was on Blu Kuban. I Posted screen shot lol. Then flashed fk23. Still did it. Flo4 still. So then i flashed stock Eg30. Still did it. O well. Just updated profile on Flo4 and reboot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] byrdcfmma:
Thanks for the info. No need to dropbox it. I will see if I can find what I want. If not, I will let you know. Keep testing, that's more important!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
The Lidroid/Wanam extended toggles have already been ported over along with a bunch of other mods. I did this particular one for both FK23 and FL04 (deodexed only). We'll see how this leak pans out if I port it over for this one also. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rwilco12:
Word on the street is that we might see the world end today... :(

Maybe we will see something as our lives flash before our eyes? ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tdunham:
I don't know what part of the world Team ST is in, but they better hurry and release it so we have something to enjoy while we wait. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DaveVQ:
LOL The time for the world to end has come and passed. No worries.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
OK, some people, including me, noticed FL04 was kinda wonky battery-wise.

I posted my problem about the suspected battery drop during FL16 install.

Here's the update:

Yesterday left work at 5pm with a full battery.

This was taken when I got to the office, right before I plugged it in again...

So FWIW it does seem the battery is back to what we saw on FK23.

Really impressed with this build though, just as rock solid as FK23 was IMHO.

BTW, I'm in the process of showing the new team members how to do what I've been doing.

So you may see one clicks coming from our new members in the future...

Will still have my E4GT but it will be deactivated as I'm leaving KDDI Mobile.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DaveVQ:
Wow that is impressive!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
"No one said it would happen at midnight!" LOL!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weboide:
Thank you guys for checking the bluetooth. Hopefully this is all resolved in this version!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] comptonhubbard:
what's your setup is that with no tweaks and everything turned on? how much screen on time did you get?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Stock, mainly wi-fi and usually never 4G. Screen timer show 1hr 46m.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] helix4u:
rwilco12.androidfilehost.com/LeakSite/?dir=Leaks/Samsung%20Epic%204G%20Touch/FL16

IT LIVES!!!! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] comptonhubbard:
downloading it now

---------- Post added at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:57 AM ----------

getting weird message when I try to go from WIFI to 3g - insert sim card to access network services???
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SASQUATCH:
On what r u getting that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
Why isn't this linked on sextapes site, and what happened to the kernel and modem releases?