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[Thunderbolt General] mobitote:
Rocket on tbolt!!!

I think the reason why tb wont get upgraded is the very reason thats causing bootloops on some devices and its running fine on some

Case in point see this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35956129

All in all I think this might be a factor. It was rushed into production and they pumped out some shoddy bolts at first and they cannot reconcile the update to run on them plus the good bolts out there. Classic case of one shoe does not fit all
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
How many TBolts running stock software are experiencing boot loops ? This is NOT an ICS issue either - at the point where boot loops occur, Android really isn't running yet. It's like with a PC not making it past the BIOS screen. It would make no difference if it's running Windows 8, Linux, etc.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
One the bolt was the first 4g phone released. Then the Droid charge was the second and last was the revolution on the Verizon network. Those 3 4g phones showed their makers what went wrong and how to fix it in the next generation of 4g phones. I do believe I said all first generation 4g phones had issues. I guess you don't know that the Droid charge and revolution fits in that statement of first generations 4g phones.

The bolt hasn't had the random boot loops for quite awhile when they released the update long ago. As far as battery life just look a the size of out batteries 1450. Hell my original dinc had a bigger battery than my bolt does. We all know (well don't know if you know) that 4g is a power hog. Look at the 4g phones now you see a battery that size in them now? That's why the phone drains the batter so fast. Sure we have data drops and that's because its the firs Gen of 4g phones. They have gotten better with the new phones. Again learning from their mistakes. Sure my bolt has limitations but I went in to owning it. that beings it had new technology of this 4g network issues would arise. I am sure my next 4g phone the experience will be much better.
[Thunderbolt General] RunNgun42:
I ran the ICS leak for about a week and a half and didnt have a single issue with it other than poor performance. The rom was completely stable and all apps ran, it just took up to 5 seconds sometimes to switch apps, most likely a result of limited ram and the system having to repeatedly dump the cache on everything.
[Thunderbolt General] oldTacoTuesday:
Both my TBolt and my wife's just started having the random reboot issue about a month ago. It comes in waves for me. My phone will reboot once a day for a week, and then stay stable for a while, only to start rebooting on the odd day.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
I do know tower issues can cause a phone to reboot. I would say call Verizon and ask if there are issues. I know there are roms I run that I have to run a certain radio to not get random reboots.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
But it shouldn't have to be that way, you should be able to use your phone without having to **** around with it to get it to work right.

Though yes, word on the street is it's the towers, not that Verizon will either admit to it or do something about it.
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
If you're a former TBolt user, why are you still trolling the TBolt forums?
[Thunderbolt General] jaymccoubrey:
I left the bolt I do miss it tho. I still have it I hope it gets ics
[Thunderbolt General] Slack3r:
TBH I gave up at the end of August. I have literally no faith that this update will ever come out... I'm still using my Thunderbolt, but I've been saving up for an off-contract Note II and will be switching in early January. If the update comes out before then than great, I may reconsider, but I seriously doubt we will ever see this. The US carrier/manufacturer update battles are just getting ridiculous, at this point I just want a phone that I can strip down to AOSP Android and use the updates/source from the international version.

Twisted has made incredible progress with the AOSP rom for the TB, however there are still a few issues that will simply never be resolved, at least without massive workarounds, until we get an update and the corresponding source code.
[Thunderbolt General] a-jive:
And we still wait :( I have six months left on the wife's TB contract. I wish she didn't have to deal with gingerbread anymore... JB on her Nexus 7 has spoiled her!

This debacle, along with the 3 month promise that turned into a 9 month wait on the Rezound, has me really hating on HTC. I would entertain an HTC nexus device (OneX + nexus please!), but having no major updates on an epic flagship device is just unacceptable.

Hope this one comes soon, but we'll have to limp along with year old software till then!
[Thunderbolt General] iflip:
I'm done with htc. All of my androids I've owned were all htc. Was such a fanboy. I jumped on the Samsung bandwagon. I've been thoroughly satisfied. The smartphone of my dreams. Lol
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
The same thing has been said about ics and we have it so I don't doubt that it could work on this phone. Linux is a wonderful os and can be customized to work with almost any hardware no matter the specs.
[Thunderbolt General] sk2:
I couldn't agree more. I love the s3.
[Thunderbolt General] rberry88:
Same here... The grass is greener on the Samsung side :D
[Thunderbolt General] htc_tb_cricket:
Mine started rebooting a few days ago. I just read here in the Twisted Umbrella ROM thread that turning off tiled rendering in settings will help some rebooters. When I get home I'll try it.

I was thinking that somebody accidentally lost their tb in the toilet when they pulled their pants up. I became suspicious when the owner never called the (locked) phone. I wondered about the huge battery three times as thick as the thick phone. I love HD for youtube but the screen does make me claustrophic. It was fun to hack root and flash roms. TB tells time and I can hand it to a five year old girl for her to watch Barbie and Mermaid on youtube over wifi. It's outlaw for VZ so I can only go Cricket but gsm straighttalk 4G would be better. So I only used it wifi. Also a huge heavy tb will not replace a lightweight cr*p talk and text device I can use with one hand without running over motorcycles between road checks. I don't really need HD HuluPlus too much between road checks but the huge battery will do that for the entire ride from DC to NY and still start a url htp dubya3 dot h-online com open news item Mozilla-announces-developer-smartphones-with-Firefox-OS-1789519.html Harley slash url without making the seat sticky like Verizon ICS/JB closed source subsidized phone dinosaur updates. Seven more posts til I get off Jim Crow work farm.
[Thunderbolt General] Viper Daimao:
so it's finally out http://www.droid-life.com/2013/01/3...-sandwich-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/#more-97140
[Thunderbolt General] swfreak18:
Looks like it's true after all :D ...

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/01/31/verizon-finally-approves-ice-cream-sandwich-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
[Thunderbolt General] major_works:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/thunderbolt.pdf
[Thunderbolt General] icemike557:
Is this for real :eek:
[Thunderbolt General] Ionace7:
Sure looks real, and today isn't April 1st as far as I can tell
[Thunderbolt General] phonetool:
Congrats, guys!

DInc2 has been in the same boat with you the whole time. Glad to see Christmas arrive for someone!

A buddy of mine with a Thunderbolt said just today that he'd like to learn how to root it so he could clear stuff off and improve performance. I've been reading through this forum section for him.

Hope HTC drops the ICS source for you so your devs can work their magic!

-MROM on DInc2
[Thunderbolt General] coolsilver:
CM9? Please?

I'm just happy either wasy I was already running ICS leak for ages until Tuesday night when I finally got tired of data drops.
[Thunderbolt General] icemike557:
Has anyone heard if this will come with updated or the previous leaked radios?
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Until we get the ota to the phones I wouldn't but much stock in it. After all we been through this a few times now.
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
Yes but this time the OTA PDF and announcement are posted all other times were just rumors.
[Thunderbolt General] drewski_1:
baseband is different from the leak

New: 2.02.00.1117r, 0.02.02.1211r

Leak: 1.39.00.0528w, 0.01.69.0602w_1
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
that's because the leak is way old.
[Thunderbolt General] broderickp:
whats the most recent rom to receive the OTA on?
[Thunderbolt General] rezoundness:
who cares. How many people are on the tbolt anyway? also what about jellybean 4.1 and 4.2? I think their should be free upgrades to the latest flagship when it is replaces.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
605.19 was our last ota. The leak had radios that were 605.2 which would hint that they were next in line. One thing about it though was that the leak was dated sometime in April and we got the official ota to 605.19 in May. I might be wrong about that. If you are planning on unrooting to take the ota don't. It won't take the devs any time to have officially based releases once it drops. If you still want to take it I would suggest making sure you are on the last ota and radios that were with it.
[Thunderbolt General] sithdroid2187:
I do thank you very much
[Thunderbolt General] mobitote:
Me too. Its a love - hate thing but the phone ain't broke yet. No need to change yet!!!
[Thunderbolt General] wiredmonkey:
'bout damn time. Should hold me over until the GS4 or M7.
[Thunderbolt General] RBarnett09:
Looks legit. Can anyone confirm getting the update? When you get it, let us know!
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Someone said they called tech support and they said it was pending without a specified date. Tech support has it there so it is legit.
[Thunderbolt General] RBarnett09:
Good. Can't wait to get things running properly on our ICS ROMs.
[Thunderbolt General] jonnyj771:
Since they are posting the pdf files for the update and how to do it, It definitely is legitamite. From what I am hearing, it will be atleast 24 hours from now. If not sooner or later...however, posting the pdf files usually means within about 48 to 72 hours.

My question is, when I click on check status, all I get is "Source: Verizon Wireless"

All other fields are blank. Not sure what that means or if that is a sign I am going to take longer to get my update or what...but I hope not.

All I can say is "IT'S ABOUT TIME!!"

Software Upgrade Information pdf file

Verizon Wireless' Thunderbolt Support Page
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
I just hope it's soon so I can install it and be done with these bugs hopefully.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Done with the bugs? That's a good one made me chuckle. No matter the update this phone will always be plagued with bugs. The phone was doomed from the start. As much as I loved my bolt but with my rezound I can't believe I stuck with the phone as long as I did. The only nice feature was how easy it was to root.

If this update comes out and that's a big if. I give it a week before people starts complaining about the lag, this doesnt work right, the data still drops. Sad thing is there will be no update after this one as I am sure HTC will wash their hands of this phone once and for all.
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well done with the major bugs obviously no rom is without bugs.
[Thunderbolt General] mobitote:
Just out of curiousity is anyone worried about the new "VZW remote changes" included with this update, with regard to rooting as per the new law geared towards rooting?

How does all this affect rooting? Coz, I have never ran stock rom save for the 2 hrs after I bought this phone almost 2 yrs ago.
[Thunderbolt General] bradg24:
Don't take the download wait till the devs get it a tear it apart bit by freaking bit. And we get the spoils of ics.

All I really want is a ics aosp kernel that will save battery, and fully aosp rom.
[Thunderbolt General] coltspackers:
BOOM. Wrongo, buster. They just announced the official ICS update! Begone, troll!
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
There is no new law towards rooting that's about Carrier unlocking which is completely different. Has anyone gotten the OTA yet though?
[Thunderbolt General] mobitote:
Guess I had figured wrong. Thanx for making it clear.
[Thunderbolt General] ShapesBlue:
Good luck with that. I'm running Urban Nonsense ROM and battery life is great with the extended battery. I've ran almost every ICS rom out there on my TB and they all drain the battery quickly.

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It's ironic how on the vzw support page all it says is coming soon.... No mention of ICS anywhere

GT P3113 Running Sungsonic HD JB 4.1.2

HTC TB Running Urban Nonsense ROM v1.5-R3Ds
[Thunderbolt General] GolfOX:
Can an inactivated Tbolt get the update over wifi. If I remember correctly,my other updates would only come ota.
[Thunderbolt General] sithdroid2187:
Did you read the page? I saw very clearly that it says ice cream sandwich.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
And I remember back in June Verizon page showedthe bolt would get ics back in June. Never gave a specific date. Guess what it never came and over time the pulled it from their update list. So sorry if I don't openly trust Verizon. They have done this before. Till I see an ota then its not going to happen.
[Thunderbolt General] garyart1:
I would also love the answer to this. My daughter now users my deactivated tbolt over wifi only and I would like to finally update it to ics after waiting this long. I can't root being the usb is broken and will only charge. So I can't hook up to computer. If I can do it over wifi, it would be great.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Just take your sim card out of your current phone and place it in the bolt. You then download the ota and switch the sim card back. Ota only comes over their mobile network. If it didn't google wouldn't bother with them for the updates for the gnex.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
No competent "dev" will leave those tools in, for one. Plus, even if one ran stock, I'm certain that the user must opt-in to allow VZW to have access.

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Users can download the update over WiFi as well.

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How does the software version numbers compare to the ones from last spring/summer's leak that BAMF got a hold of ?
[Thunderbolt General] :
Post Download

Can anyone post a download link to the zip file? I have a deactivate Thunderbolt with an old ROM on it that I would like to update to this stock ICS, but the OTA wont work. Thanks!
[Thunderbolt General] freebird_78:
Here here. X2
[Thunderbolt General] paul1035:
I also have been looking all over for this download, but I haven't found it posted anywhere yet! Or better yet, a stock one with root!
[Thunderbolt General] major_works:
Relax. No one has it yet. It's only been announced, not released. There's a difference.
[Thunderbolt General] coolsilver:
LEAK for HTC MECHA 7.00.605.2 [4.0.3] 08/21/2012

1.00.605.2 710RD

My baseband might be different due to radios: 1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.02.00.0312r

Vs

Build 7.02.605.06 710RD Android 4.0.4

Baseband: 2.02.00.1117r, 0.02.02.1211r

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Support documents are live. I would imagine the OTA will be within days.
[Thunderbolt General] Chrome67:
Thank FSM!

'bout time...thank FSM that we haven't been forgotten about completely by Verz and HTC...
[Thunderbolt General] GolfOX:
Different size sim now

Sim in my Razr Max is smaller. Any suggestions.
[Thunderbolt General] paul1035:
Thanks, I was figuring that, but that darn people writing the articles about the release all keep saying "it's ready to download" but being that I'm rooted I'd never know if it was or wasn't, and I have to take their word for it. But I figure I'll find it here first once it is released. Just annoying everyone keeps writing it's available to download in their articles.
[Thunderbolt General] major_works:
Just check on the TBolt Android Dev forum here, or wherever you hang out for Bolt ROMs, and within a day or two of the RUU going out, you'll see some newly updated ICS ROMs with the goods baked in.
[Thunderbolt General] paul1035:
Buy an adapter. You can find them online for a dollar or 2. I just bought one last week ironically just in case I ever needed it. And now I have a use for it at least.
[Thunderbolt General] rajuabju:
Very happy to hear the TB is getting ICS officially. Took long enough.

I've long moved on (Droid DNA is like a TB on Crack), but the TB is great phone and hopefully this spurs some new development for those of you holding on!
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
Any tips on a "good" one? I've had some that didn't hold the sim in place. Some that needed tape which made them too thick.
[Thunderbolt General] RBarnett09:
For the sake of development, does anyone plan on posting up the stock unrooted ROM from the upcoming official release? Lol. I know it's kinda lame, but since I'm just starting to learn how to develop ROMs for you guys, it would help me out if someone did.

No worries, I will move to creating ROMs from source, but I want to successfully build a ROM from the official base first. Just for chips and giggles....
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Don't worry it will get posted. It hasn't even dropped yet so be patient. It could be Monday before we ft anything.
[Thunderbolt General] ShapesBlue:
I wouldn't think so. This update will be available soon to the rooted masses though

GT P3113 Running Sungsonic HD JB 4.1.2

HTC TB Running Urban Nonsense ROM v1.5-R3Ds
[Thunderbolt General] paul1035:
The one I bought was from MiniInTheBox.com but to be honest, I haven't even opened up the bag to try it yet. If I get around to trying it out later, I'll let you know the results.
[Thunderbolt General] Link_of_Hyrule:
The wait is killing me I wish they would push it out already freaking Verizon/HTC you suck!
[Thunderbolt General] santod040:
Via VZW PDF:

System Update While You Are Roaming

1. If you are roaming you will not receive a system update notice. You will need to be in an area where Wi-Fi is

available. Enable Wi-Fi on your device. Connect to Wi-Fi and wait for the update notice to appear.

2. To enable Wi-Fi on your device, go to "Settings" > "Wireless & networks". Touch "Wi-Fi" to enable.

If the system update fails to install, you will get an error screen. However, this only means the software did not install

properly. Remove and re-insert the battery and power the device back on. The device will power back on with original

software and will prompt you once again to install the system update.

If the update fails again, please visit www.verizonwireless.com/contactus .

***EDIT

OOPS, forgot the fine print at the bottom, LOL:

Data Charges May Apply. © 2012 Verizon Wireless.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
If you're running a custom ROM, you'd better not get notified or the "dev" screwed up.
[Thunderbolt General] ShapesBlue:
Oh I have an ota block running on my TB so I don't get any notification. But I'm not upgrading to ICS anyways as it's a battery hog

GT P3113 Running Sungsonic HD JB 4.1.2

HTC TB Running Urban Nonsense ROM v1.5-R3Ds
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
And reality starts to set in lol.
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
Have you ran the upcoming release? AOSP ICS does GREAT with battery life.
[Thunderbolt General] BoulderGeek:
So, what is the consensus regarding the OTA on rooted phones?

Will one have to revert to S-ON, locked hboot? If so, I'll probably stay on SkyRaider.

But, if I can flash an offline ZIP in 4ext, then I will give it a try.
[Thunderbolt General] ang1dust:
So is out now, waiting for a custom ROM based in the new official ics release
[Thunderbolt General] hallstevenson:
People with rooted phones must avoid OTA updates at all costs. They can re-lock your bootloader, take away root, etc. Do NOTHING. IGNORE any talk of the OTA update. WAIT until someone gets a zip version of it, removes all of the Verizon crap, etc, etc.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
No it's not out now. All Verizon has said is its coming out. There isnt even a specific date given. This is just like back in June when Verizon posted the ice update on their updates for phones and then they pulled it. Always remember the lord giveth and the lord taketh away. Lol
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
They never posted a PDF on their website and the techs were never issued a note for it in their systems though. This is the real deal for once.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Actually it was in Verizon system before. There was a guy who worked at Verizon who posted a picture of it being listed with all the phones getting updates. Just like with it being listed now there was no ETA date listed. People are getting excited just like last time. I don't care if they listed a PDF until there is a release date this update is in limbo.

I remember a long time ago with all the hype of Microsoft going to release the Chicago os. Then the plug was pulled on it. It's best to not get your hopes up on this. Best to be skeptical that way if it doesn't get released people won't be as upset. I remember all the threads of Verizon sucks and HTC sucks. Just look at HTC and Verizon track record of releasing updates. Do you remember how long it took for the bolt just to get gb? How many release dates was issued and then Pushed back? I can remember at least 3. So you really think for sure ics will get released soon?

Don't get me wrong I hope they do release it. It will breath new life in to the ol girl. If it does release I just might pick up another bolt. I miss the kickstand. You never realize how much you use it till its gone lol.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Sorry I just tried to check the upgrade now and it came back as error no network available. So no you can't use WiFi. Because if you could Google would bypass Verizon for the updates on the gnex and just do it over WiFi.

Here's a pic of my stock bolt about to be shipped. Might even see the cracked screen lol
[Thunderbolt General] baronmxc:
When I did it on my tbolt which is no longer in service but I still had the SIM installed and it was still connected to VZW just can't use it, I just got SERVICE UNAVAILABLE.
[Thunderbolt General] tburns:
That is correct. Won't work without a simcard. The older smart phones didn't have them, well some didn't.
[Thunderbolt General] ABN85:
Why are people still posting that you can't get the OTA on wifi? Can no one read what santod posted? And FYI, you're getting the Service Unavailable error because the update hasn't been released yet or you don't have a sim card in. People have got to learn patience with updates. By now you should realize how these things work.

Sent from my Twisted ICS Bolt
[Thunderbolt General] phonetool:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/0...date-for-the-htc-thunderbolt-rolling-out-now/

-MROM on DInc2
[Thunderbolt General] spoiler1041:
Oops...
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
funny.. active SIM in, Wifi connected, when I downloaded, the arrows under the 3G symbol were lit, and it took almost an hour to download.

So did it use my data plan or wifi to pull it down?
[Thunderbolt General] icemike557:
That didn't take too long
[Thunderbolt General] baronmxc:
Because you get this error when your phone is not in service. I also stated that my SIM was INSTALLED and it showed it was connected to VZW despite the fact it was not in service. I wasn't stating I had a problem either as I could careless. I do not use this phone anymore other than just a media device in the car. Now that the OTA is out, I still get get Service Unavailable. And oh by the way, you would get No New Updates Available if it wasn't released yet. So to put it to rest, your phone has to be in service to receive the OTA over DATA or Wi-Fi.

SIM card was installed, the only difference was it was not in service but still connected to the network. I assume for 911 calls only.
[Thunderbolt General] burkett375:
I"m in the same boat...is there an OTA update anywhere to download?