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[HTC One X] scotty1223:
this is not possible,that i know of. there is no way for the phone to see the signiture of the java card,even if the phone can connect to and read the diag file. if you know of a way,enlighten us. but every discussion ive seen pretty much ends up "no,this it not possible"

as was said,this is flat out not true. the java card comes with credits,and has multiple uses.

also ill point out that every time this has been brought up before,everyone gets mad,claims they dont want to pay for s off,and mods remove all discussion of it,since its not "development" of a free software solution.

i personally had my phone s-offed via a java card/diag file and was perfectly fine paying for that service.

first

,how many of you are willing to pay for for s off via this method? it cannot be free,as the person must purchase the card,shipping supplies,and pay for the return shipping. its also a fair amount of a PITA to keep transporting phones to and from the post office.

second

,how many of you are willing to send your phone in for the service? there is no way to do it remotely that i am aware of.

last,and not least,

where are you located? purchaser or customers. there is more room to make your money back if youre in the us,as there are allready places advertising this service in russia,the UK,and china. its only really practical for the customers and purchaser to be in the same country.
[HTC One X] matt95:
Thanks for the clearance Scott :thumbup:
[HTC One X] scotty1223:
youre welcome :)
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
I live in Israel and I wouldn't mind buying the card and then getting phones shipped to me and for a fee, s-off and send them back. Ofcourse the fee is only to try and recover the expenses of the shipping + a small part of what I paid for the card. Problem is: who would trust me enough to send me their phones?

I had another idea, I thought to maybe purchase the card and YCable, and people would pay me the full price of the card and I would ship it to them, and then I would return them the money if they ship it back.

Well all these ideas seem crappy while typing them.. so the only solution is to find out how to connect USB over the internet :mad:
[HTC One X] nitrous²:
To the idea of monetization. Basically you'd end up with something like this but the private way: http://www.pdacenter.ru/uslugi/remont-htc/htc-one-x/

Tbh, I'd rather send my phone to an official company of that I can tell and assure you, they do serious business. No offense. I'm just saying.

A Javacard + Pj46 DIAG combination with ~500 cycles costs 500$ and ~1000 cycles are 1200$. Do the math. I don't think you'd find enough people to sell the service to an appropriate price people would be willing to pay. Or you'd sell it for very low price, but again, you wouldn't get enough orders to get the money back.

The only good thing would be that I ship my phone to X_location rather than 10k of miles to Russia.

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[HTC One X] scotty1223:
i just got the thumbs up from the guy who did my phone to extend the offer to you guys. he has diag files for one x, and x+.

if youre in the us and want your phone s offed via the java card/diag you can reach him in his original thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45893162#post45893162

and i have a FAQ for him here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45893687#post45893687

make sure you post in his thread(the first one linked) and ask if he has the diag file for your particular MID. find your MID with fastboot getvar all or fastboot getvar mid

hes done almost a whole cards worth of s-off's for the vzw one crowd,and my one x,so hes for real... i wouldnt be bringing this here if he wasnt. hes allready got a card,and is going to purchase a second. feel free to take advantage,or not,if youre happy with s on. im not out to convince anyone,just getting out the option for those whod like it.

try and keep shipping,payment,etc. type of questions in his thread, and more technical questions about the process in the other.

in the next day or 2,ill try and get a one x specific thread in the general sections.

again,this is only for folks in the us unless you can make arrangements with him otherwise
[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
Why not? Because there are more than 1000 people in here? If there is a solution to the online method, we only need the s58 file. The rest doesn't matter. There are enough credits for everyone.

On some websites I read that could be a solution but was way too complicated for my understandings.

We should focus into finding an online method or find out 100% if thats possible over IP.

I could do the tests. I need only real ideas.
[HTC One X] Jhinta:
Dit you even read what a usb/ip is ?

Hox - notebook - internet - notebook - card, from Hox to card is your virtual cable

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Yep , your not emulation the sdcard but the cable

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[HTC One X] scotty1223:
yes,i read it. doesnt change the fact that some folks way smarter than me have said this is not possible. again,from my understanding,the situation youre suggesting would be like putting the diag file on a normal sd card and plgging it in. your virtual usb will not let the phone "see" that the sd is a java card.

but this is just my limited understanding.

if you can make it work,and gaurantee the safety of peoples phones for the process,great. im sure sonic would be perfectly fine to do them remotely and not have to mess with the post office. ;) ive given you links,youre welcome to post in his thread or pm him and try and set something up and get it working.
[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
Not a normal sdcard. A GoTrust JavaCard, a working one, tested by me with a PJ46DIAG.zip file. The phone is working directly with the card using a y-cable. So if the virtual cable will work, a lot of people will get their phone s-off. Now the problem is not anymore how to clone the card. The problem is the virtual cable. I hope you are wrong and is still a possibility :)
[HTC One X] teemo:
China, Russia and UK at least, already have the card. They should have figured by now how to do the remote s-off.

I guess HTC was clever enough to block it by a simple time constraint, making virtual cables too slow.

- But I hope I'm wrong.
[HTC One X] scotty1223:
they would stand to make alot more money if they could use the java card remotely,so im sure they would if it was an option. but everyone still requires you to actually send in the device. the "being without my phone" aspect keeps alot of folks from doing it,as does national shippig charges. neither uk or russia were willing to do my phone since i was in the us.

if a cloned card is working,id keep that off the forums... it would be easy enuff for htc to change the signitures ;)
[HTC One X] luciferps:
we cant even downgrade our hboot to 0.94 or something from 1.34 or above ? if i am s-on?i think i have the diag file

PJ46DIAG.nbh 1024kb

S58 Clean

check via hex editor. but it will work only on .94 hboot lower then 100 and with conditions apply . pm me for more details
[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
At least we can have one in Germany if someone can provide the s58 file. Maybe there are people that wish to send it to Germany.

The card cannot be cloned. It has a programmed chip. HTC knows that. I tried in linux and with a lot of methods and still useless.

S58 file has to be in a zip file named PJ46DIAG.zip. The rest are useless.
[HTC One X] CamoGeko:
In all honesty HTC should have already given S-OFF to the One X.

Really don't understand what their problem is.
[HTC One X] n1kos:
Too many bricked phones...

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] CamoGeko:
Irrelevant.

They could just refuse to repair bricked phones, as it's self inflicted damage and user's own fault.

Sent from my baked potato
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
I have to agree. Still no s-off for the hox and HTC still won't give it! It seems a bit weird that you still don't have it. They would make money on bricked phones if they released it as well. Sony charge you £15 to even get your phone back so HTC could make money on it also
[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
We all agree, but complaining about HTC will not get our phones s-off :)

Let's try to keep it on subject. At least on the last subject.
[HTC One X] luciferps:
guys i think i have the original diag file but that chinese guy said that it can only be flashed on hboot 0.94 or 0.96 .. how can i downgrade my hboot or it is not possible while i am s-on
[HTC One X] scotty1223:
It is not possible.
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
I think people who own the Javacard and too busy selling the service, and have no motivation trying to find a remote way, because then it'd be too wide-spead and easy to get it cheaper. The russians ask for around 55$ for the S-OFF, this is easy money.

We should all focus on finding a way to do this online. If there is a will, there is a way. It's hard to believe that something like this is not possible.
[HTC One X] ExoticMe:
Sorry to break it to you...

Hox is becoming an old device and we had that thought of yours. We had a lot of amazing devs who bricked their devices trying to achieve s-off and it didn't happen.

So the only way is to ship it to a guy...
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
If someone bricked their device, maybe they would enlighten us with the experience, doing this over the internet seem an ultimate solution. I will dig to find this solution, maybe i will fail, but what the heck.

HTC ONE X is one of the best devices on the market, it even took me a month to switch to HTC ONE, because i like it so much, and now when i have the HTC ONE, i don't REALLY see a big difference (maybe faster and stuff)...

Also, if we make S-OFF available online, it can help us with other devices and maybe in the future with new devices.

S-OFF IS OUT PREROGATIVE!

How about this solution??:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE9InYW5CcE
[HTC One X] ExoticMe:
Well if you took the time to read s-off threads and you will know it isn't possible until htc gives to uaand this a fact.

However of you feel you can achieve it that's good.

And try to do it your self rather than posting useless posts BEGGING WHAT CAN'T BE DONE.
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
Where did you see my beg exactly?
[HTC One X] ExoticMe:
I don't think you fully understood what you wrote in this thread
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
Since I am ME, I think the chances you didn't fully understand me are a bit higher. Also, maybe you should try concentrate on what is important than to accuse people of begging and what not. Don't be rude.
[HTC One X] Thunder07:
You start fighting, I'll ask for this thread to be closed!

Also, you want to try something...

Go ahead, but but unless you need people to participate... There is no point in posting about it,

Sure you can report if it fail or successed later, so people won't go trying it!

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
We need to find how to use the Javacard online. And surely it'll be easier if everyone works together to find a solution.
[HTC One X] maxilick:
Great reading material, very entertaining.

Dreams can become reality.

Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.
[HTC One X] Braindamage1989:
Using a javacard online? Impossible.

The javacard needs to be put inside a cardreader that needs to be connected to the phone. It's not like you to put your phone at a computer and let that do the work, how the hell would the card even get detected by your phone? Why do you think all the phone shops that own javacards need to have your phone? If it could be done remote by those shops they already would have done that, cause it will give alot more sales.

Even the reasons to s-off your phone are still getting more unclear for me. Boot.img's is already solved by Thunder as far I know. And I can't imaging you want to lower your hboot in any way, you want to go back to the crappy older bases with the 2.6 kernels :silly:? Even for flashing a other RUU you get nowhere, it doesn't do miracles if your phone already works bad (not even think about the fact that you need super-cid (super-cid != s-off)). And if you bricked your phone so hard on s-on that you can't restore it without s-off (how do you do that, WTH?!?!) , you serious need to ask yourself the question if s-off is safe for you.
[HTC One X] Jhinta:
javacard-> card reader -> point A ( real io ) -> usbcable to notebook-> trans late to tcp -> inertnet -> retranslate to --> (real io) notebook usb out (point B) -> phone

so what does the phone see -> device connected ( cable -> usb tick -> java) how ever the comb is

point A and B have the same IO in and out on the card and phone

i have it setup , i realy dont know if its working becuase its the first time for me ,

any way -> you need a windows client ( or linux ) for usbip .

if all is oke you sould get a device (0a12:0001) aka sitecom bluetooth yours to play with.

ip 84.27.118.36 on port 3240

And keep in mind this will only do io to windows (linux) , but we realy want io to usb directly so that the phone will talk with it , well its open source redrect it to a usb port if we can do it on the server side we sure can redrect it to usb again ( the only thing that coult stop this is latancy,timeout )

so lets see what will happen you sould get a normal bt device just as normal , only scanning will be scanning ad my house you sould be able to see a tv and notebook
[HTC One X] MosesTheTool:
Did you manage to test that method?
[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
The USB needs to be attached on a linux usbipd server; the server doesn't work on windows.

Doesn't this software 'FabulaTech USB over Network' do the same thing?

Ok... and... the biggest problem is: how we attach the io from windows to the pc usb directly for enabling to phone to "speak" with it?
[HTC One X] Jhinta:
My server is dissabled by now , and if it works I don't know as I only have 1 notebook but it did show device connected by usbid on port . About io one could build a driver to take over or simple cheap usbdevice with output ( and a good dev ) .

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[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
So sharing the sdcard over ip is possible. I have tested with some software and it acts as the sdcard is plugged directly in my notebook.

Now we have to see how to output it.

How we connect a physical usb to the virtual one. Maybe it could be done with just a driver that could do the mapping or even an hardware solution (a pci card with usb output or something).

The important thing is to make the usb from the notebook to act as a slave (the pc to act as a peripheral) and the phone to act as master (as host).

Maybe this future is already integrated in hox; when we connect a pc/charger into bootloader, we get an error saing "Failed to open usb master mode". Isn't that related to our problem?
[HTC One X] Jhinta:
You don't have to do anything one phone side , the only problem you have now is getting the io directly to usb so what comes in goos out and nothing els .

Ineternet -> driver io directly to usb (device) -> phone so the phone simply see a device connected on the usb port and starts looking for the file. So in simple explanation your cable is internet that's all ,the phone will only see the end of the cable . So one must wright a driver to do io out on current usb port or create a cheap dev to do just that

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[HTC One X] Mechanodeus:
Yep. And who is going to do that? :)

In linux is not possible without having to write a driver? We can attach the internet usb to VM and than map that to the pc usb?
[HTC One X] Jhinta:
Yep who, not me for sure.

But I think linux is the best solution . As the drivers can be easly edited .

And the thing to keep in mind the usb my only talk the io so no handshake or anything els pure io ! So vm I think a no go

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[HTC One X] panbambaryla:
No more dreams of s-off for HOX?
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
My opinion : let indeed the dream go. After 1.5 years of trying i would say s-off is a fail. I do not discourage all the efforts and future attempts, think it's in the end cheaper to send the phone to someone who can actually can s-off (and made high costs to be able to). Or go to a shop in the UK, China or Russia.

And this is clearly MY personal opinion
[HTC One X] galaxys2Tav:
I think it's about £15 - £20 to get it done over there. Fonefunshop were the only place that did the one on hboot 1.54 until rumrunner came out

http://www.fonefunshop.co.uk/cable_picker/95817_HTC_S-OFF_Service.html
[HTC One X] pavik62:
76,75$ In Russia http://www.pdacenter.ru/novosti/s-off-dlja-novykh-modelejj-htc/
[HTC One X] maxilick:
After 283 posts in this thread still no difference not to mention thousands more in other threads. After 1.5 years my HOX is quickly approaching it's use by date. I've had no problems flashing via pc more times than I can count. With or without S-Off I've had plenty of fun with this phone, the only trouble I have with the HOX is deciding on what to buy next.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
And even if we don't have s-off...for flashing we still have kexec hardboot and the app kernel lighter from thunder07....and he will update it and is trying to get dual boot working on our phone without s-off...so I think s-off is now useless really a fail because only in a few countries we can s-off it and shipping would be expensive too :/ ...

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[HTC One X] rik-sik:
If any devs need to test anything i have an s-off device .
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Already many ppl said they can help for testing because they have s-off but there is no need for testing or anything else because we can't get s-off working without official or genuine things from HTC ;)

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[HTC One X] Semseddin:
Any cellphone shop with requiered tools like XTC will S-OFF any HOX in 5 seconds. Instead of waiting for free s-off, pay 25$ and it is done in no time.
[HTC One X] Dabman:
turkish... is no WAY.
[HTC One X] *elmo*:
To be honest, I do not care for s-off after 2 years.....
[HTC One X] rida007:
How i have an xtc clip and htc one x sim locked ans son ??
[HTC One X] Mr Hofs:
Me neither, didn't even care from the first day ! ;)
[HTC One X] and313:
Yeah. Its a sad story but after 2 years who cares anyway. I just hope thunder will not stop development on his kernel lighter then we go back to flash boot.img
[HTC One X] panbambaryla:
Anybody tested it already?

http://rumrunner.us/downloads-2/
[HTC One X] Kwisatz89:
Read in the page "P robably others. In fact, this should work with nearly every modern Qualcomm based HTC device. Yep, you read that correctly."

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[HTC One X] panbambaryla:
Also HTC One X is mentioned explicitly - that is why asked.
[HTC One X] Kwisatz89:
There are 2 HTC ONE X versions : international (tegra) and us (qualcomm) :)

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[HTC One X] panbambaryla:
I see... Thanks for clarification :)
[HTC One X] zeus.lny:
delete
[HTC One X] Thant:
I think something this is not good for me but before two days I create a gold card for wildfire S to calibrate the new digitaizer. And to create the gold card you must to put the sd card in the slot and take the CID or reverse CID and after this with Hex editor to create the gold card and install the clean s58 file. Now my question is how this guy in youtube create a gold card for HOX?

If he use OTG Y cable to mount the sd card to HOX and he use the mini usb on the HOX how he can connect the phone to computer to take the CID and create the gold card when he don't have free usb port on the HOX.

Now my question is there any chance to connect the sd card to the HOX with OTG Y cable and externel power for the sd card and use gold card tool over bluetooth to conect my HOX and read the CID?????
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
A normal Goldcard. Wouldn't work... And if he really did it then maybe with an USB Hub... Let's forget about s-off we will never get it

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[HTC One X] Thant:
I am not sure with USB hub you can use the sd card mounted to the phone and read from the phone with the computer. If you mount the sd card to the HOX you will use the Tx and Rx on the phone And if you send command from computer to the hox you will never receive the package from the HOX. And you are not sure a normal goldcard will not work on the HOX.
[HTC One X] tzarp990:
I just got my HTC One x after upgrading from my HTC Sensation and been following threads about getting s-off. The HTC One x is going to 2 years now and support from HTC will soon be nill. Is it possible for us to just open a petition for HTC to release the necessary files for s-off or we boycott using HTC
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
some ppl already tried with a petition...not helped for now
[HTC One X] Stefan0vic:
I know there has been development for the hox+ which is also tegra, team magio is trying to achieve full s off I believe.

All we can do is wait for them to come out and either tell us it works or it doesn't. I don't really care for s off anymore since it been such a long time, but I'm still excited as s off might mean more development for our device
[HTC One X] nikola016:
They managed to s-off radio on hox+, but radio on hox+ is qualcomm, and on hox is nvidia, so s-off for hox is almost inposible.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
on hox+ it has qualcomm radio because it's the AT&T variant...i think the tegra 3 radio will never be s-offed...HTC completely disabled it...so we just have a part of s-off
[HTC One X] nikola016:
Yeah, forgot to mention it's AT&T variant.
[HTC One X] scotty1223:
They have not disabled s off. The tegra 3 works completely differently,and its exploits have just never been found.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yea disabled is the wrong word...lets say nvidia and HTC made a good security inside it so that only with special things from HTC etc which are really expensive if could work..

I don't care anymore about s-off because we know that we maybe never get it...next year most of the ppl will be away from this phone I think ...so hm yea

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[HTC One X] tejeskifly:
apx driver

Someone can reupload the apx driver and nvflash? the link in #2 post, don't work :(
[HTC One X] Thant:
If you are in APX you have dead HOX only change mainboard will help you!
[HTC One X] tejeskifly:
I don't need new mainboard, i need, the driver and nvflash now :)
[HTC One X] humzaahmed155:
I'm sure Google or the search tool may help you, use them :)
[HTC One X] Thant:
I mean APX not XDA my mistake. If you are in APX no chance to resurrect your HOX
[HTC One X] matt95:
Well if I remember right someone succeeded in it but it is a bit problematic
[HTC One X] meat_hooligan:
no way to get the S-OFF at home? :)
[HTC One X] meat_hooligan:
Understood, thanks :)
[HTC One X] kyhuu007:
FAKE NOT BAD :laugh:
[HTC One X] behtash:
hi

now microbox team support full htc market

one x and one x+ tegra3 now with special diag unlock+cid+s-off not need javacard and more

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f62...irect-unlock-one-mini-s-c2-bl-unlock-1762540/
[HTC One X] locki:
link is ok for me... it looks like it can be s-off.... who will buy it ? :D
[HTC One X] Kwisatz89:
I don't see any s-off but sim unlock

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[HTC One X] Jhinta:
Stil down see secure s-off, only thing that it's shows is simple unlock without the need of htdev that's all what's on that site. What we need is disable secure s-off en not a simpel unlock, and if you read the title you will see it only unlocks sim lock

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[HTC One X] scotty1223:
yes,but he said above:

and he said the same thing in the linked thread,in post #17

however...

looking here,one x,x+,m7,etc all do not show support for s off: http://www.micro-box.com/cgi-bin/supported-models-model.pl?brandtoshow=HTC&modeltoshow=One X

maybe the site has not been updated? :confused:

maybe behtash has told an outright untruth? i have asked on the linked thread,and i will continue to watch the website. the micro box adds s off support as he claims,i will purchase,no question.
[HTC One X] gothicasshole:
I hope this is t a cruel photo shop but wow..