yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
@kyogoku I think a video does a better job than just pictures, but if you want it from a particular angle you can request and I'll take photos of it.

@SanzaBlanko I really have no idea how to find out if it is aluminium. It sure looks and feels metallic though.

[youtube]QqULxbOMX4Y[/youtube]
[Nexus 4 Accessories] wendellc:
What number am I on waiting list now?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
@wendellc, you are not on the waiting list. You are #3 on the confirmed list for the second batch which arrives this Friday. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DforDesign:
Yeah, I wanted to be safe too. I dont really beleve it will arrive.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jak3z:
Maybe because my emails are written with respect and with simple questions :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DforDesign:
Aluminum?!:D Even original isn't aluminum and youre expecting replica to be?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] SanzaBlancoAkA2C:
This I know because that $30 piece of **** that I brought from the Play store cracked by the micro USB port. Still waiting on my refund from Google as we speak. The reason I'm asking if it's aluminum or not is because if you've been following the thread you'd see there is multiple places selling these "replica" bumpers and listing the build material as TPU and Aluminum. Now I'm not sure if this would effect the singal but I would imagine that it would hold up better than the plastic junk that Google is selling. Clearly this would go into my decission on weither or not I would buy one once I get my refund from Google.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Checked with the seller. Nope, no aluminium and any other sellers that tell you there is aluminium in their bumper is most probably pulling your leg.

保护套质地: 金属+tpu . 这金属是铝吗？

The bumper composition is listed as metal + tpu. Is this metal aluminium?

6:58:45 PM

全是塑料

It is all TPU.

6:58:50 PM

没有金属。

There is no metal involved.

金属的质感

But it is processed to have the appearance and texture of metal.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] SanzaBlancoAkA2C:
Thanks. I'll hold off from buying one and continue using the broken OEM one I have now.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] patsmike:
anyone know anything about this bumper replica that showed up?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B199960/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3VODXGBJ323R7
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidtoy09:
Based on the availability date Jan.31, I presume this is most likely another replica.

The seller has quite good rating.

4.7 stars over the past 12 months (11,998 ratings)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
I think they ship out of the us too. Contact info is in Arizona
[Nexus 4 Accessories] vertizontal:
The packaging for this one, while a copy of the original does not have the LG logo on it, just text that says LG, and a model number.

From the pictures, the ones that DX-Box sent out have the LG logo on it, and they were confiscated as counterfeit by U.S. customs.

Hopefully the Taobao ones won't be confiscated by U.S. customs.

My contact in China has them ready to ship to me here in the U.S. and I am trying to decide if I should ask them to remove the part that says "LG" on it?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] heat361:
I dont see why one would buy that since the shenit bumper is the same thing,it is cheaper and is available now:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidtoy09:
wow how did you know the DX-Box got confiscated? that's messed up business practice by DX-BOX labeling it "Original OEM"

I guess i'll file a case with Paypal
[Nexus 4 Accessories] patsmike:
Nope, check again, shenit bumper is not available anymore.... Maybe b/c they're OOS. Also I've never heard of shenit, while this other seller is at least based in the US
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yyz71:
I've already put my claim in to paypal escalated to boot' Not trusting this company..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] heat361:
I ordered one the seller has a 4.5 rating and I checked amazon and they say its currently unavailable.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] w1ndhawk:
All you bumper despos, I have a spare bumper which is brand new and in box from LG.

However, I am based in Asia. Feel free to PM me if any of you'll are interested :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] vertizontal:
Actually not sure it was confiscated, just assumed when someone earlier in the thread wrote they got this message: "the nexus 4 bumper with LG LOGO, not pass customs inspection"
[Nexus 4 Accessories] khanh1289:
Is it too late to be on your list?

Sent from my Blenzderz 9000
[Nexus 4 Accessories] aaurelio:
Yep I just filed a case with PayPal. Not taking the risk of loosing my money as I purchased it over a month ago.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Perilla_:
I did the same. Better do this and wait.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
My list is full now, but someone may drop out. I'll contact you if one becomes available. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidtoy09:
A reply from DX-BOS seller

" we are very sorry, because of the nexus 4 bumper with LG logo, Stuck in Customs for some time, Please wait a few days, thanks very much. You can keep this dispute until you receive the product"
[Nexus 4 Accessories] aaurelio:
Yep got the same thing. I will wait a week and if I haven't received it will escalate.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] electric0ant:
my bumper from the taobao seller has just arrived (as as what innumerabilis is ordering and selling)

bit disappointed and not totally impressed. a few reasons:

1. seller did not put my compete address down, there was no way to delier with the incomplete address. luckily the courier took the initiative to call me for my address, instead of just returning the package.

2. for some reason the seller billed the shipping charges to me, so I had to pay on delivery when the courier delivered to me. despite me already paying for postage. (I am in Hong Kong)

3. Build quality is mediocre, there are parts where is not fitted properly, some gaps with the outer plastic and rubber, and a bit where the plastic has not been cut properly from the mould.

good points:

1. fits the phone well and quite snug

2. buttons are responsive and line up properly.

will post up pics later
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ftwisawesome:
I raised a dispute may as well wait.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Is that from the same or a different seller?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] electric0ant:
same seller as the link on the first post. I believe you said you bought from him as well?

I understand that the quality control of these replica bumpers is not going to be as good, but what I am annoyed about is having to pay extra postage. I have bought numerous phone cases and other small accessories from taobao before and never had to pay for postage again.

The colour of the silver trim is darker than the genuine as well (from what I can see in the photos of genuine ones.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
When it comes to postage, I had a lot of problems with him as well. After delaying 3 weeks, he promised to give free screen protectors but "forgot" to include them in his shipping. He says he can't ship overseas, and now he can ship to you?! (Albeit with double postage on your part).

As for build quality, I re-examined the bumper I have. There are indeed small gaps between the outer plastic and rubber at the top, but not on the other 3 sides.

At the top, where you can also see where the metal part is joined. Here's a zoomed in photo to show you what I mean:

"Plastic has not been cut properly from the mould" - doesn't apply to the bumpers I received, or maybe I don't get what you mean. Perhaps you could take a photo of your bumper highlighting the problem?

Darker colour wise, I'd really like to see an original to compare - it could be the lighting. I mean colour of paint is one of the easiest things to tweak, I don't see why he'd settle for a darker shade.

Fit-wise it is perfect for me, no loose movement at all.

Overall I wouldn't say it is mediocre, it is a bumper I'm happily using myself, but perhaps the seller shouldn't have boasted about 1 to 1 replica that got everyone's expectations sky high.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] radmor11:
I did the same thing, tracking number still doesn't work.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] plasticdarlow:
Here is the reponse I got to why the tracking numbers arn't working.

From Seller - lei tao1/23/2013 19:11 PST

Dear plasticdarlow

because of the nexus 4 bumper with LG logo, Stuck in Customs for some time, Temporarily unable to track your goods. Please wait a few days, thanks very much.

I have a dispute claim in with Paypal, so I'm not worried.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yyz71:
That's the same flim flam story they've being sending people:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DforDesign:
Same **** told me. How it is to get money back from PayPal? I wait and send message with him? What next?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yyz71:
Just put in a claim with paypal:good:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidtoy09:
wait a few days if you don't receive it, escalate the case with PayPal. I know I will for certain. It's ain't easy money. :mad:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] radmor11:
I waited few more days and tracking number still doesn't work. BTW I haven't recieved response for my 2 emails concerning tracking number so I think it's high time to start that paypal procedure.

Concluding, I'm not worried too right now :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] plasticdarlow:
My responses came because of my Paypal dispute. I believe it's time to start one :good:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidfoshizzle:
Beware of scammers delete this thread

"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
[Nexus 4 Accessories] elzafir:
What? Why?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
I assure you I remain in contact with all my buyers constantly and am not a scammer. >_>

All my buyers with registered airmail have tracking numbers that actually work.

Dx-box is the "scammer"; not every seller on this thread.

A repost of my "sales pitch":
[Nexus 4 Accessories] magote:
Well, really sick of this dx-box story, if the tracking doesn't work until tomorrow i'll ecalate my dispute to a claim.

Are there still slots on the number replica waiting list?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Er, was that directed to me? If so, yes, I still have stock.

However, as some of you may remember, I made a deal with a local shop to sell all unsold bumpers to them on Monday (which is Sunday night in the West), so you have the weekend to PM me if you want one. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] smirkis:
payment sent innumerabilis. hopin for a smooth transaction :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] plasticdarlow:
More from the DX seller:

From Seller - lei tao1/24/2013 10:14 PST

When we provide invoices through customs, please waiting for a few days, If you can not receive your product will get a full refund

Not too sure what that means, but doesn't look like we're getting anything. I'm in Canada for what it's worth.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] magote:
I guess this is the point where we escalate the PayPal dispute to claim
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yyz71:
Already escalated my claim:good: My order was dec 19th was told it was shipped out jan 4th and then got the bogus tracking number jan 10th..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] magote:
Mine was "shipped" Jan 7,got the bogus tracking Jan 10 too, and all the same copy paste ****ty chat on my dispute..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DforDesign:
same thing here. so whats the next step?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] magote:
I've already escalated to claim, hoping that PayPal will quickly get my money back.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] smirkis:
doubt there is a "quick" method. i've had a claim open with paypal for something else i bought back on january 3rd, the dispute is open and reviewed for a month. i'm supposed to hear something in February.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcguy76:
I picked this one up off eBay today. Yah, it was a bit pricey, but it looks like the 'real deal'.....Guess I will find out next week!!

Just joined the forums today and love reading all this great stuff! I just picked up my Nexus 4 and am LOVING it! I never thought I'd give up my iPhone, but this phone is a game-changer for Android (in my opinion).
[Nexus 4 Accessories] vertizontal:
Looks like the Shenit Bumpers on Amazon are no longer avalable.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DforDesign:
whats your tracking number guys? It would be funny if he send the same one to everyone: RC273524xx8HK :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] smirkis:
i doubt that one is real. the listing is from china and it says its aluminum.

edit whoops, thought that was the one i saw earlier. nvm! lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcguy76:
Yah I was skeptical until I saw all the photos. Looks pretty legit. The guy selling had a lot of positive feedback. I'll send pics when it arrives.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
I wonder how he got his hands on like ten of them. Ships from NJ as I'm in New York hmm.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] athome93:
I do not have the same
[Nexus 4 Accessories] blaaaah:
Hello everybody!

I too fell for the DX-Box bumper and have the same story as many of you (tracking number doesn't work etc.). After reading this thread I'm pretty sure I'm never going to receive my order. I was wondering how soon can I make the paypal dispute/claim since I made the order only 5 days ago. Do I have to wait the supposed delivery time of 15 days before i make the dispute? Just asking cause I would think the sooner I make it, the sooner I get my money back :confused:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidtoy09:
Another reply from DX-BOX (Lie Tao)

“From Seller - lei tao

1/24/2013 10:22 PST

When we provide invoices through customs, please wait a few days, thanks very much”
[Nexus 4 Accessories] vertizontal:
What was the limit from the Play Store when they were available?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Not sure. But play store inventory hasn't been available for over a month.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] smirkis:
it was 3 or 4. only way to buy more was multiple orders which was more then possible because it was available for atleast 8 hours the last time it went up for sale.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kitch9:
Maybe I'm too trusting but a scammer choosing PayPal as his payment method of choice doesn't sound right to me.

I think he has good intentions, and he's hitting problems.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Perilla_:
I dont think that if they were originals he would have problems.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Seller uploaded new photos just now too.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DforDesign:
dxbox? I dont think so
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Not dxbox... the eBay listing the guy posted a couple posts ago.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] radmor11:
I started to think again what to do next.

I thought that maybe I get one from innumerabilis, but since it turns out it's 0,95:1 replica ;) I'm not sure about it anymore. On the other hand as longer I look at poetic one and OEM I want to get official bumper (or good replica). I'm very happy that I managed to get phone so early but I couldn't think that there will be such a big problem with bumper. BTW I find it strange that there is only one third party bumper and I don't see that this situation is going to change.

Geez, what should I do? :confused:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thanos_1:
same situation here from dx-box.

ordered Dec 26 and still waiting. tracking number is not working.

Every time i contact him, he tells me something different.

I just opened a paypal dispute.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcguy76:
Yah the pics he posted on eBay sure look authentic---has the LG sealed aluminum logo and everything. $40 is steep to pay for a bumper case, but I parted with $33 for an ugly iPhone bumper back in the day. As long as it's original I don't mind spending the extra money to get one I know will arrive, and will look/fit properly.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Yea just dont know if it's authentic or not. It certainly looks like it, on the edge of buying it tbh. I just like the idea it comes from U.S. and its one state away from me.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcguy76:
Well, the seller already sent me a USPS shipping confirmation email via eBay, so he seems honest enough so far :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
I'm surprised when I looked it was 5 sold, 5 available and still the same now lol. What state are you from? You went for standard shipping I'm guessing? as the economy shipping doesn't provide tracking?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcguy76:
When I did 'buy-it-now' it shoed 6 available, 4 sold. Then I purchased and it went down to 5/5. So apparently no one has bought since I did. I live in Missouri (Kansas City). I just chose standard shipping, so the tracking number he loaded into eBay may just have been a delivery confirmation number. Right now eBay says delivery "on or before Wednesday 1/30"....that's just an estimate assuming he ships today.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Ah if I was to order it'd probably arrive next week (according to ebay) but my estimates would probably be saturday because im in NY. or to the very least, monday. 4 available now

edit: just went for it. only 3 available.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330863075078?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619 is the link if anyone is interested. Looks like the real thing but who knows when it arrives here, just hoping for the best 100% positive feedback so....
[Nexus 4 Accessories] lexcyn:
I suppose, it's just a hassle. Oh well, I submitted a claim just in case. Maybe I will just spend the extra $ and go for a legit one. Seems like LG/Google will never get more of these back in stock.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Bought at 5:57 PM, received USPS tracking at 6:13 to my last post.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thesebastian:
Is there any chance dxbox vendor is trying to delay us to lose the paypal dispute chance?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mayortheslayer:
The only reason I can see us not getting our bumpers from dx-box is if customs took it up. Otherwise I see them as a legit company and just takes a long time to get here. Why would they use paypal if it was a scam? I filed a dispute but I still believe it will make it. My order shipped on Jan 6th. But I will admit this is getting annoying
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcguy76:
Cool! I assume you'll get yours before I get mine due to proximity. Let us know what you think of it!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zephiK:
Yeah, most likely. I'll keep posting in this thread as progress goes along. Shouldn't be too long
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Amberyl:
I was chating with Ray:

@Ray

hello, how can i help you

@You (click to change)

I have two orders, 1000***** and 1000*****

you sent me a mail saying that I must wait for few days

but... how many days more or less?

becouse i paid on 23 december, one month ago.

@Ray

January 7 shipping of your orders

need wait 7 - 10 days

sorry

@You (click to change)

and the tracking number is going to work?

@Ray

We are to contact the logistics company to resolve

you can try 1-2 days

sorry

@You (click to change)

ok

I will wait a few more days

but I opened a dispute on paypal

I will cancel the dispute on paypal if I receive the bumper in 7-10 days

@Ray

You can keep your dispute until you receive the product

@You (click to change)

ok, thank you for you time.

@Ray

thanks
[Nexus 4 Accessories] pentiumvi:
Ordered two bumpers from innumerabilis. Hope the transaction goes smoothly. :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kitch9:
I didn't think for one second a random Chinese company could get original bumpers when not even Google can.

The chinese make fake cancer drugs by the millions which somehow end up at legit medical centres, I wouldn't put it past them to knock a few fake plastic bumpers up...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] disq:
So far I've ordered two from him and got tracking # etc. real quick. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thephantom:
Been a lurker in this thread for too long. Thanks innumerabilis. Got your pm

Flowed and Tapped from my Nexus
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thanos_1:
He told me the same, that my order shipped on Jan 6th but Jan 6th was Sunday!!

I dont know if he is able to ship on Sundays.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
After plodding through the steps in shipping and logistics for the past few days, I think I have an idea of what went wrong for DX-Box.

They probably opted for bulk air-mail, which is cheaper. It means all US-bound DX-box products (not just bumpers) are pooled and delivered together to 5 major hubs in the US, before they are re-distributed to your US addresses. For other countries, they are also pooled but the number of hubs may differ. The tracking numbers are real but won't be activated until the re-distribution process within the US/other countries occurs.

Unfortunately, if you ship in bulk you are much more likely to get caught for counterfeit items. Furthermore, they didn't remove the outer casing with the prominent LG/Google brand names like I did. Their shipment was detained at customs because of this.

Don't forgot too that Dx-Box sells more than just bumpers. It is also possible that other items in the bulk shipment triggered the Customs detainment process.

This is just my educated guess on what happened.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thanos_1:
But he advertise it as original.

Everyone who bought this bumper from dx-box, bought it as an original item not a counterfeit.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] radmor11:
I've just got this response on paypal dispute:

Your order has been shipping, but due to the busy Hong Kong Post shipping delays, you can keep your paypal dispute until you receive the product

Are you going to open new dispute if this bumper turns out to be fake one? He claims it's 100% official. What about shipping fee? I think that it's quite high if you want to send something back to Hong Kong from Poland. Should I pay it or it's Ray's problem?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thanos_1:
i've got the same response from him.

I dont think that we can open a new dispute. if it turns out to be fake then paypal tells you to send the item back to seller but you have to pay for shipping and provide them with a tracking number. Then you get a refund.

Thats true, shipping fees are very high from Europe to Hong Kong.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
No, dx-box didn't advertise it as an original. This is their description: Brand New Sealed Nexus 4 LG Smart Phone Bumper OEM Google Case Black.

In fact, even OEM is pushing it because that definitely didn't come from the same factory that manufactured the original. I would be extremely sceptical of anyone who tells you he is mass selling original bumpers right now.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thanos_1:
OEM means ''Original equipment manufacturer''

also in the description says 100% Official Original, In Stock Now ! Shipping Now !
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thephantom:
Actually a fine line between original and oem. Original is like buying spark plugs from mercedes benz and upon opening you see bosch brand while oem is getting directly from bosch in their packaging. If the seller says oem, then they 'may' come from the plant that made the bumpers but not packaged in a Google/lg box. If it comes in the google/lg box, it would be illegal unless google/lg allows retail outside of play store

Flowed and Tapped from my Nexus
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yyz71:
http://dx-box.com/brand-new-sealed-...mper-oem-google-case-black-free-shipping.html
[Nexus 4 Accessories] radmor11:
Exactly, I've made screenshots yesterday. I don't know if it can help and means anything but I have them just in case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] lalahai:
bro, id like to order one too if it turns out to be nice. ill pay you thru 支付宝， quote me the price of inteernational mailing. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] _guzzler_:
Shipped today from amazon. Cant wait. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tlr1000:
takin' one for the team here...ordered this. will post when i get it. i'm not expecting speedy delivery though.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] newcastlepunto:
same, i ordered one yesterday evening. i''ll let you know how it works out
[Nexus 4 Accessories] theTqM:
People already have:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2024884

There is an entire discussion in that thread for the Poetic Bumper.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] starfarer:
Can't find any users review for the site. They listed as 100% original, anyone doubting the claim? About to pull trigger.

Edit: NVM, placed an order.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] wkeyau:
Just asked my brother from Hong Kong to get me one.

Don't know how long it will take to be delivered to him. Then he'll have to send it to me in Toronto.