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[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidfoshizzle:
Where can I get the white/orange bumper?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
The OEM bumper on the right in the black vs black. In the white vs black the OEM is on the left obviously ;). In the pic with all 3 the OEM is on the bottom right.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] RyDeRgr:
How about side to side photos ... Multiple angles?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Give me a lil bit I'm out but I'll be home in an about an hour.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] redemption0327:
I'm interested in a green one (and possibly a red one). How much would it cost if it's shipped to Canada? Also, do I pay via paypal?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Well I got a problem now. I had a few people that wanted to buy from me and now 2 backed out and I need probably about 8 people or cases to make it worth while. So u can give me a couple days to get a few people together or there is the buychina.com option as posted a few posts back. It'll cost alot less to buy from buychina.com its only $12 shipped through them but its very slow shipping. Let me know u wanna do. I do take PayPal

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] redemption0327:
If that's the case, I'll grab it off buychina. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dokukinoko:
Did buychina rip you off? Here's his post (scroll a bit down):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38007086&highlight=green+bumper#post38007086

I've personally never ordered anything from them before, but that particular Taobao seller on the buychina site has 100% feedback (albeit 5 ratings only) so for just $12 it might be a risk worth taking (I'd like a red or white one!).

But I'm happy with my official Play Store bought LG bumper and already putting money aside for the X phone so I am probably done buying accessories for the N4.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Just so everyone knows I just ordered a red one from buychina.com I'll keep u guys updated. I just wanna compare and see what I get from them.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] fatpeopleunite:
Yeah, they stiffed me. It wasn't for the bumper. I ordered a pair of shoes about a year ago with them, and got cheated out of $100. Never got a refund or anything, and my CC didn't do anything cause it was an international order. Something like that, I don't remember the details. I just know I didn't get my shoes and have stayed away from buychina since. If enough people get their orders and have positive experiences, I might take the bite and order a bumper or two. But for now, I think I'm ok.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
The ratings on buychina... doesn't really make sense to me. You are not dealing with the seller, but with a middleman so ratings about quality may be legitimate, but complains about shipping speed/service attitude/goods didn't arrive... you are really complaining about buychina.com as a whole, not each individual sellers who don't even know they are listed on the site. It is like writing to Barnes and Noble to complain that the service attitude of the salesman sucks when you bought your Nook ereader at Staplers - what's the point?

Furthermore, you are going through two layers of postage, and both layers are at the slowest options possible (short of going by sea) to save cost.

Anyway I bought a green, white and yellow bumper from Taobao together with a wireless charger and fancy diary case. Would be interesting to see them up close.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] snapper.fishes:
Are they the poetic bumpers? Also, which wireless charger did you order? I am on the market for an alternative charger.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] RyDeRgr:
Yes can you tell us about the charger?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.1.1000638.14.P6nb97&id=16746026157

1 white, yellow and green bumper. From the same seller as my previous replicas.

@snapper.fishes, not going to buy poetic bumpers. An acquaintance had it replaced three times but they keep peeling off.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.1.1000638.38.P6nb97&id=18390999104

I bought the denim blue + neon green colour combination. The rose pink + yellow looks really nice, but perhaps not too suitable for a guy. :)

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0d.1.1000638.4.P6nb97&id=18696847579

This is the wireless charger I bought.

They have 3 models, I bought the first one.

The 3rd model is very interesting though:

Sure looks unique.

Since I'm posting my laundry list of recent purchase, what the heck. I also bought an ultra big foldable umbrella together with N4 accessories:

http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?sp...&id=14574137772&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=#5

Sick of getting soaked by heavy wind + strong wind combination.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
How much is that charger in US $

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
At today's exchange rate, USD24.04. The devil is in the shipping though.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I know I hate shipping I'm guessing its a lot for shipping right?

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How about this company fast tech do u know anything about them this one ships from China

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1142301

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] dokukinoko:
This brings up a good point (though I respectfully disagree with your post). It looks like the feedback score posted on buychina is not up to date.. Buychina only lists 5 ratings (100%) for the taobao seller:

http://www.buychina.com/items/lg-e9...er-google-nexus-fourth-son-prince-ssoqunrqnlo

But in actuality, the seller has several hundred ratings on taobao. Here is the original taobao seller's link for those bumpers:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.10.105.vjbuDB&id=22451776961

We can see the seller ( 小甜豆的幸福生活 ) has 95% positive feedback and has sold quite a few of these bumpers recently (generally positive feedback from skimming the feedback comments). So, the feedback score listed on buychina for that taobao seller -- while intent was good -- should probably not be relied on for this reason unless it is just showing you the number of times buychina used that seller (which I doubt looking at other items on the site, it just looks like they haven't mirrored the taobao feedback in a while). You should instead rely on taobao feedback page to gauge the seller him/herself. At least buychina does link to the seller's taobao listing on their listing page, so you can easily get this info yourself.

Here's that seller's feedback page on taobao if anyone needs it:

http://rate.taobao.com/user-rate-00055171c5a08bb3b8e2ce8579b73554.htm?spm=2013.1.1000126.5.ehykQX
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Its not the taobao seller I think most are worried about. Its the buychina.com agent that people are worried about.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] dokukinoko:
Yeah, that's definitely true, and THAT is what I would be worried about too from buying from them as I said before. But I was just responding to the post about the feedback score on buychina not making sense. buychina is NOT implying the feedback rating on their page is for them/their service, but just for the taobao seller and it is good intent. Think about it: if buychina gets ripped off by the taobao seller, then YOU are the one who is going to be left ripped off, not them.

Of course, for reviews on buychina, you'd normally search on Google or just use a third party store-rating site like resellerratings, but they haven't gotten any feedback yet there...

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Buychina/sort/date
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
The seller has hundreds of ratings on taobao, but those ratings are for customers who bought directly from 小甜豆的幸福生活. You cannot rely on taobao's feedback gauge because it does not reflect the service/shipping time via buychina.com; the only thing the taobao ratings can reflect is the quality of the goods. Furthermore, you have to trust that buychina is actually ordering from that seller; they probably don't buy a similar product from a cheaper seller, but at least when I order from 小甜豆的幸福生活 on taobao I know I am getting that product and not something else.

Furthermore, I have an odd feeling about buychina's practice - using the seller's photos and product description is fair enough. However, I don't know if it is ethical to put the seller's name on the site and masquerade as the seller themselves. (Confirmed with her, she has nothing to do with buychina. Same for all the other "sellers" out there on buychina.)

I think it is unfair to the individual sellers - buyers who don't know better will think it is a particular seller's fault for no response/late shipping, when it is buychina as a whole that is responsible. If something goes wrong, the taobao sellers' reputations are besmirched through no fault of theirs.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I've gotten mofi pouches through buychina and other than having to wait a long time they always got to me (I've made 5 orders of them). Sometimes I get it in 10 days and one time it took over a month. I ordered a red bumper from the link posted a few pages back so well see. *fingers crossed*

Btw guys I forgot to post side by side pics of the black OEM vs the q spades replica I will do so tonight.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Buychina is giving me the impression that it is like eBay - each seller is selling their own goods and managing their own lines of communication with the seller. This is not the case. On each product's page, I don't see any disclaimer that they are only providing a middleman service and not a market platform like ebay, amazon or taobao. I had to confirm with the taobao sellers personally to find out that they are not involved. I find this kind of deception rather unethical because for example on eBay, I will rate a seller

"Goods arrived thanks! Fast shipping, item exactly as described. Friendly with quick answers to my questions. A++++++ seller!"

Do you see the problem here? I am rating for:

1. Description close to product

2. Shipping time

3. Communication with seller.

Of which only number 1 is really done by the seller. If I have problems with number 2 and 3, I will wrongly blame the seller instead of buychina.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dokukinoko:
Well, they are definitely not masquerading as the seller to me. They make it clear you are buying from an external seller by giving the seller name and the link to his taobao.com listing.

And the help page explains the feedback is for the SELLER on taobao by the way, RE: your feedback concern:

http://www.buychina.com/help/taobao-sellers-reputation

Me personally? I'd never buy from buychina either without getting more reviews either. They're just a deputy/intermediary for taobao, but for someone who doesn't understand this, I suppose I can see them being confused and think they are buying from buychina or directly from the seller (the latter is hard to understand when you can go directly to the taobao website THEY even link to). But to my eyes, it's pretty clear to me they're getting the items from a taobao seller, definitely not masquerading as the seller. If they wanted to hide all that, they would NOT link to the taobao listing and HIDE the seller name.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Ah, that's where the difference between our views lie - you don't think they were masquerading as the seller but I do. When I first encountered buychina, it is not at all clear to me that they are "buying from an external seller by giving the seller name..." I was "confused" and "thought I was buying directly from the seller". To me at that time, they are a market place for taobao sellers to sell outside China, and I thought that I was dealing with the same person as on taobao.

Look at an example page of a pair of jeans - http://www.buychina.com/items/2012-...straight-nostalgic-black-and-gray-uxouopsmmhn

Nowhere does it say that they're "a deputy/intermediary for taobao". Yes, they gave a link to taobao but a seller on eBay may also give his links to his website/amazon shop for the same product. It is not a clear indication that buychina is an intermediary. I'm not saying they are intentionally hiding the fact, but they could have made it clearer but they didn't. A cynical mind would assume that they are happy with this ambiguity.

The buychina link you gave just shows a translation for the icons which reflect how many transactions the taobao seller had on taobao... whereas on taobao, the feedback system is far more complex - they include number sold, accuracy of description, level of service, shipment time, positive/negative reviews, etc.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dokukinoko:
OK, I think because I heavily use deputy services (in Japan), I kind of understood what their aim was. Their About Us (http://www.buychina.com/help/about-us) page says "we choose products from Chinese biggest C2C market: Taobao.com as our purchasing agency." so at least they don't totally hide it..

But I agree with you on many of your observations, most people probably won't realize this. I definitely agree with you about them being shady. They should be more upfront and spit out on their main page that they are purchasing stuff from Taobao. Instead, they instead design their site like a retail website, which is a bit dishonest to me. Well, at least JeffBrown and one other person have confirmed decent transactions, but unfortuntaely one person didn't. I also don't like they are advertising a return policy and all that nonsense (I assume not all taobao sellers even offer a return policy?). Definitely not 100% open about it.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] RyDeRgr:
@innumerabilis:

Does the qi charger you bought can charge the phone with the bumper fitted on? It's 100% ok?

I can find the same on buychina...:

http://www.buychina.com/items/lg-nexus4-phone-wireless-charger-plate-qi-standard-xytpqtrqqii

http://www.buychina.com/items/nokia...bile-wireless-charger-qi-standard-vpsqnnslrll

http://www.buychina.com/items/qi-wi...niversal-all-qi-standard-products-stururskkig
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
I haven't received them yet - they are still in China waiting for my other stuff to arrive to save cost on consolidated shipment.

Yes, you can find them on buychina. And you can refer to my recent posts above on why I won't buy from buychina. :)

@DowntownJeffBrown, just received word from the seller that model #3 (the round Qi charger) is out of stock. :(
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
i just ordered this bumper from amazon, it's ship from the US and the price is decent. i cant tell from the pics if it's the shenit or a different one though. http://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-E960-Bumper-Case/dp/B00B199960/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mackster248:
@innumerabilis @downtownjeffbrown

Any chance I can order a red replica bumper from you guys?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] spncrmoo:
pm me !

Getting a bit lost keeping track of these and a bit unsure of the quality and similarity between the replica and the official bumper.

Does anybody have any of these to sell in the UK? Really want one of these!

If you have any of these (official or replica) in the UK to sell, could you please PM me or send an email to dspen89@gmail.com
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
:( Awww man. Thanks for checking for me brother. :thumbup:

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D*mn :mad: You know what I just ordered one from by China too. I could have ordered u one also it just shipped this morning :( If innumerabilis can't get u one I suggest taking a chance on buychina.com its not alot of money to chance it IMHO. If it was a more expensive item I wouldn't buy from buyChina but this item is fairly cheap

I only have black/grey ones left

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] qcn85:
I've just received my dx-box bumper replica and... don't you think it's a bit slippery or tricky to grip it with certainty??? well, maybe I was too much used to my TPU case instead but... anyway, for me this bumper is slippery somehow or other. :D

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] elzafir:
Why would one buy from buychina.com? What's wrong with buying directly from taobao, alibaba, aliexpress, or dx-box?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
As far as taobao I can't read Chinese and its like $12 shipped. Plus u can buy colored bumpers through taobao.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Hmm, I can still place an order for you if you confirm soon enough - do you want the red or the orange bumper?

Lower price of S$23.20 for registered air mail, S$21 for normal mail for coloured bumper.

In the meantime, if you want a green/yellow/white bumper, you can PM me too. I only have 1 each.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thesebastian:
DX box Bumper finally arrived. I have both bumpers.....and the DX box one it's 99% equal to the play store version.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
It is cheaper buying from buychina. The drawback is no tracking, a very long delivery time, and the "shady" details mentioned above.

On another note, I'm going Malaysia in a few hours' time and won't be online till Monday. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] chlehqls:
Man, I don't know if I want to take the risk of buying from buychina or not. Which seller did you guys go with to those who got their bumpers?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Do u want a regular black/grey replica? If u do pm me I have some still in the packaging.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Malevolence:
Which one of these retailers offers the cheapest replica? I see that amazon has the white Shenit for $15 shipped with prime, and $16 from Abacus for the black one, are any of these sites cheap then that? Color doesn't matter really.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mackster248:
Thanks Jeff. Luckily innumerabilis PMd me and is going to order me one.

I heard about buy China. I just trust you two more tbh lol. Thanks again!

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Pm sent

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No problem brother :)

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] elzafir:
Oh, I thought buychina was a forwarder for taobao? How could it be cheaper?

Are you going to Johor Baru?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Evil_munki:
A little off topic, but are there any other alternatives for Nexus 4 bumper cases? The price of this case within the UK might be comparable with a 'branded' bumper (if there exists one, other than the Poetic).
[Nexus 4 Accessories] gavin-phelan:
FAIL

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] mackster248:
Not quite sure if I'm understanding you correctly. But you can buy the replicas from buychina.com for 12 bucks. Or go through innumerabilis for 21$. Both still cheaper than official.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
For those in the USA I have some Black/Grey bumpers. I'll ship to other countries also but shipping will be whatever it costs for first class mail.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
No, I'm in Malacca. Surfing the internet courtesy of my cousin's wifi. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
OK guys here is the comparison between the OEM and the replica. The OEM is always on the right and the replica on the left. If anyone want any other pictures of either just post request and I'll see it.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] mrjoeltan:
Just bought a bumper from DowntownJeffBrown, will post a quick review once I get it! I'm sure it'll be exactly like that OG bumper from google.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Enhanced:
How is the "wideness" of the replica compared to the official OEM one? I had the OEM one, but switched to the Poetic bumper because the OEM just made the phone too wide and was a pain to handle. Is the replica like the Poetic bumper which wraps around the phone more tightly or is it like the OEM one where it was a bumper in the strictest sense (really just sat on the sides, which is the reason why it made the phone more wide)?

I love the look of the OEM/replica more than how the Poetic looks, but not over reducing usability.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Its exactly the same width cause its a replica of the original.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] chlehqls:
Oh, no. I meant which of the listed sellers under buychina did people go with. There's like a bunch of people on that site offering bumpers.

Anyone want to give me a link that they used to buy the bumper on buychina?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dokukinoko:
http://www.buychina.com/items/lg-e9...er-google-nexus-fourth-son-prince-ssoqunrqnlo

You don't have to use buychina. Just do a Google search for "taobao agent" and you will find dozens of available sites that will buy from taobao for you. Just give them the taobao item link which is on the buychina link for those colored bumpers. Check their fees and look for reviews before of course! =)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] RyDeRgr:
Ordered from buychina on 15/2 and still order processes... That means it isnt shipped, right?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Correct u will get an email when it ships

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] RyDeRgr:
Its about 8 days+ of delay... That's too much..

(you have pm)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I agree

My order was placed on the 16th and shipped on the 21st. Maybe contact them.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] RyDeRgr:
Maybe it depends on colour availability?

What colour you ordered? I ordered an orange one.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] astrall:
@Jeff

I sent you my payment. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
You know who u are :D

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yup I bet it does. I ordered red

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] astrall:
One of them is mine? :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
:);):thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] elzafir:
Innumerabilis, I wonder if you still want to help in purchasing replica bumper like before....

I have my eyes on the white and red one.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] innumerabilis:
Ok, I'll order them for you. This is probably the last order though, if I keep adding items everyone's shipment will be delayed. :)

I still have a green bumper, yellow bumper, denim blue + green fancy diary case left if anyone wants them.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] elzafir:
Thanks man. You're so nice :D

Let me know when I should send the payment.

Cheers, brah.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] viviandress:
I have used buychina for several times, it is quite reliable.

I have used buychina for several times, it is quite reliable.

I think the delay of update on taobao seller reputation is from their data update problem.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dadonking:
Ordered four oem bumper on dx-box.com at the 2nd february and got a trackingcode with its destination spain. After a fex emails I got another trackingcode with its right destination germany. Should be here last saturday regarding to trackingcode, but never see anything.

So, I cannot recommend this buyer. I am pleased with the refund from Paypal.

Hope my red one from buychina will be coming.