yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
There was one report about xxxC and missing sparkling back. But I think it was just an elaborate hoax, for whatever reason... So I suppose there are no xxxC devices out there.

And another thing: it looks like the second batch of N4 IMEIs almost stopped at about 740k a month ago. It seems like the market is saturated now and the total count of the devices produced is somewhere around 1.5m (1740k minus "holes" in serial numbers, warranty returns etc). Just guessing.

Actually it is quite surprising they managed to sell that many with such a limited availability, limited specs and virtually no marketing.
[Nexus 4 General] jiayit:
My country is now, as of today, (un)officially selling the Nexus 4 (via retailers but Google still doesn't ship to Singapore). They're doing some mild marketing.. But the market in Singapore for phones with no 4G is still limited though.

It's still a grey area whether or not our local LG will provide warranty, since they don't for those bought from the US.

/sorry if OT :o
[Nexus 4 General] bardek:
LG themselves selling them in countries where GP isn't available and provides warranty.
[Nexus 4 General] azrash:
Here in Malaysia LG is selling them directly. Try contacting your local LG Distributor and clarify on official availability. Hope you'll get yours!

Flowed from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] jiayit:
I've got mine and retailers are selling them at like, 50USD above the play store price.

Do you think I can take my phone into Malaysia to get it repaired? My power button is dying lol..
[Nexus 4 General] azrash:
They won't probably honour non Malaysia set for free warranty claim, but they'll fix it for you at a price though. A fellow Malaysian cracked his play store set screen and paid only MYR 350(around 140 SGD) to get it replaced. You can look it up, search for LG service centre

Flowed from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] Tweak³:
301K

Rev 10

Seems strange as anyone else has 301K and Rev 11.
[Nexus 4 General] Smoli4:
Yep i have one. 301KPQJ
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Any way to know the production date without the box?
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
304K from Tmobile.
[Nexus 4 General] villapark75:
301K but no nipples :(
[Nexus 4 General] Drifto570:
304B here
[Nexus 4 General] silverfoxbrazil:
304BSY here

bought this month on brazil
[Nexus 4 General] VivaErBetis:
These Brazilian nexus... What hardware revision are?
[Nexus 4 General] MelquiXDA:
304BSM

hw rev. 11

Brazillian
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus-Revolution:
I RMA'd my device, and got a new one. However the box doesn't have a label on it, is there any other way I can check? I have the nubs on the bottom.

It's ok I found it, for those that don't know, if you have no label or box click the link below and replace the words after the equals sign with your IMEI. You can find out your IMEI by entering *#06# in the dialer.

http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/svc/popup/model_check.jsp?esn=REPLACEwithIMEI
[Nexus 4 General] blaze0303:
302K
[Nexus 4 General] fonsigno:
301k rev11 swiss

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] faddyie:
did you get 4.2.2 already updated when unboxed...? Becoz mine is 303k.. i got 4.2.2 already when unboxed
[Nexus 4 General] spazzynexus:
212k, US. Baught december 6th, shipped december 7th, arrived on december 10th. No issues. My volume buttons and power button were loose but ive had this cheap ebay tpu case on for months and the volume buttons are tight now for some reason, put the power button is still a bit loose.
[Nexus 4 General] keaukraine:
304K here. With nipples :)
[Nexus 4 General] keaukraine:
In my 304K I already have 4.2.2 right after unboxing.
[Nexus 4 General] Nburnes:
Picture/video of that back?
[Nexus 4 General] derPianist:
I am trying to do my best in catching those 2 different backs in a video.

Actually the difference is very clear and easy to see.

When I am finished I will post a link for sure. :)

via Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
Wow, no sparking backs... I certainly wouldn't be happy.
[Nexus 4 General] joshnichols189:
Please, educate us as to how one single phone not having the same back means any of this? Not like one phone could be a lemon or anything.
[Nexus 4 General] killa_byte:
212K shipped on 19th Dec
[Nexus 4 General] phermey:
138000 in usa nov27
[Nexus 4 General] pbat23:
Ordered 5th Dec 16gb UK Model:

211KP

353918-05-11xxxx-x
[Nexus 4 General] zephiK:
211K
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
212K here and I have HW_Revision 11.

Got mine on the 15.12. from german Play store.

Sparkly back is still here :)
[Nexus 4 General] Ccming:
210k
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees3511:
211k and 212k. the 212k is revision 11 versus 10 on the 211k. The 212k has a smaller opening for the camera.
[Nexus 4 General] calebloop:
Perhaps the Sparkle backed phones were meant to be for launch devices only? (or just the first month or so of availability.) :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Posted earlier but want to add more details:

Ordered on Nov. 13th. Delivered the 19th.

S/N: 211KPVH

IMEI: 353918-05-092xxx-x

HW rev: 10
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
212K, bought in Germany 21-12-2012 (preordered 07-11-2012). With sparkle back.
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
Don't think so, right now there's only one device without it.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] htc fan89:
Does it matter if It says Made in Korea on the back of the phone? or the S/N on the box has to have K or C to tell if it's made in Korea or China?
[Nexus 4 General] calebloop:
Its my thinking that it would be the first of many. Specifically since this is the first Chinese device we have seen so far.
[Nexus 4 General] kirdroid:
212k and no issues :)
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
Hmm it seems the Chinese factory forgot to go through the crystal reflection process for your device, but if they did that to one device they probably did it to all that was processed at that time. Either that or yours was just a mistake.
[Nexus 4 General] usb7:
Are your guy's rev11's screen overall more yellow than your rev10's? Because mine is.

And I'm hearing that a lot of the just received RMA devices are overall more yellow.
[Nexus 4 General] HittWonderr:
305k here. Got it about 2 weeks ago.
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
304K bought today from Harvey Norman in Australia. 4.2.2\JDQ39 was already installed.
[Nexus 4 General] Mdk001:
305K, arrived yesterday

What, exactly, are the known differences between models?
[Nexus 4 General] jiayit:
Nubs and no nubs.

some batches are known to have display problems.. Some have some other problems..

Or maybe it's just people nitpicking...
[Nexus 4 General] Mdk001:
That's it?

What about screens being more or less prone to cracking?
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
That's more related to the user than the device.
[Nexus 4 General] Lt.Win:
305k, one week old. India.
[Nexus 4 General] eastway11:
302K.

I got mine March(2nd week).

I live in Korea...lol
[Nexus 4 General] Slowb00st:
305k Got it today, 16GB White :p
[Nexus 4 General] Oddius:
Ordered mine Monday in the UK 303K.
[Nexus 4 General] kal326:
Replacement 16GB no nubs SS?

LGE960 BLACK 16GB(US)SS

H/W rev_11

Shipped with 4.2

No nubs

S/N 301KPQJ******

Delivered 6/210/2013, RMA replacement

Not sure what the SS at the end of the model is, possible a refurbed indicator.

Charger is also a different version.

New one MCS-01WT old one was MCS-01WR
[Nexus 4 General] bioyuki:
Just got a RMA 16GB black with nubs

H/W rev_11

Nubs

S/N 303KPED

Delivered 7/1/2013
[Nexus 4 General] inneyeseakay:
Has anyone figured out how to decipher how many GB's from this info?
[Nexus 4 General] TheManii:
It's the 4th field in

http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/cs_auth_model_check.jsp?esn={IMEI}

wXXyZZ

w: always "A" for N4's

XXX: the intended retailer that sold it to you

y:

8: 8gb

G: 16gb

ZZ:

BK: black

WH: white

The most common models would be AUS8BK and AUSGBK as those are the us google play 8/16gb black N4's

It's not prefectly consistant (or I'm missing details), I think some tmoUSA bought ones are ATMOBK/ATMZBK for 8/16gb black N4s bought from tmoUSA directly.
[Nexus 4 General] vickpick:
RMAed and got a 304K/11

nubs
[Nexus 4 General] ptesmoke:
RMA and got a 301k.
[Nexus 4 General] cdrov:
LGE960 BLACK 16GB

H/W rev_11

Shipped with 4.1.2

No nubs

S/N 303KPQJ676868

Purchased from Greece , Imported from GERMANY (as the salesman told me)

I was wondering what the PQJ mean? Could this be a refurb?

Is there a refurb indicator anywhere?
[Nexus 4 General] TrevSo:
Had to do an RMA. Got a 303K with nubs. Hardware rev 11.
[Nexus 4 General] joecop:
304K however no bumps .. is this strange?
[Nexus 4 General] AndyC76:
OK so this is odd (maybe just me)

Ordered April 2013

S/N 04C.....

2010

April

China

I have the 2 nubs ( on bottom )
[Nexus 4 General] saintsinner25:
Got mine yesterday..india.

305KPMZXXXXXX

I'm sorry but i'm really not able to decipher this :P could someone tell my n4's production date/place identification?
[Nexus 4 General] LoVeRice:
Mine is a china phone
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
Just type the IMEI/SN here and you'll know.
[Nexus 4 General] saintsinner25:
thanks! and your sig quote is hilarious xD
[Nexus 4 General] Alex_Dreyk:
This site tells me that I have 301K made in MAY 25th?

How could it be?
[Nexus 4 General] villapark75:
I got my replacement today, bought from eglobaldigital online and shipped from Hong Kong to UK and it has manufacturing date of August 2013 and Korea

Got the nipples this time :)
[Nexus 4 General] BadarChaudhry:
Received my RMA yesterday.

Its 302K with nubs.

H/W rev_11

Shipped with 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Anything later than 305K?

It seems the production stopped?
[Nexus 4 General] quendil:
There are several 306k right here ony my desk so...

;)
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Well 305 and 306 are close. Any 307K? 308K?
[Nexus 4 General] GameOnAndro:
307K here. Bought it on 15th Aug (Independence Day of India).

There is also another sticker on the box that has 07/2013 as the manufacturing date.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Nice! Thx!
[Nexus 4 General] VivaErBetis:
Just curious... is it still Rev_11?
[Nexus 4 General] Clauu:
A local store from ro has the 308k in stock.
[Nexus 4 General] wezriv:
306k
[Nexus 4 General] MameTozhio:
304K, got it at a best buy mobile O.o
[Nexus 4 General] richport29:
Quick question. My S/N starts 212k, but the manufacture date comes up as 04/10/2013. Shouldn't my S/N be 304K?
[Nexus 4 General] VivaErBetis:
Maybe it is a refurbished unit.
[Nexus 4 General] vassilis018:
308KPTM here, anyone can help me with letters?:)
[Nexus 4 General] rodolfoaz:
306B, bought 6, september.
[Nexus 4 General] Soulgamer-X:
304KP here, two nubs, rev 1.1

Shipped from Google on Sep/13/2013

SNdeep.info says: MFR date is April/20/2013

Thought it would be rev 1.2 because of the shipping date :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] bmt25:
My serial number starts at 0053dc. what is that? :(
[Nexus 4 General] bmt25:
Somebody help?
[Nexus 4 General] wulsic:
Made in 2010 april i think you van find further info at sndeep.info or some other site if you enter your serial or IMEI you wil also get info.

Dun know your s/n.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] Vlad Paul:
308K, purchased in October 2013
[Nexus 4 General] blttalas:
306K PXV White Purchased August 2013
[Nexus 4 General] l33ch0r:
301KPUU purchased in September 2013
[Nexus 4 General] derPianist:
Finally made a video of the two different backs.

Currently uploading to YouTube. Sorry for the delay but my internet connection is so slow and it was more difficult than I thought to catch the 2 different backs in the best light conditions.

:)

via Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
Yes, yes, yes yes yes!

I have two devices, one built in November, and December, and the December built device's screen is much more warmer than the November built device. The November built device has natural blacks and the colors are cooler.
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
Let us know when its done uploading please :)
[Nexus 4 General] calebloop:
Any chance of a close up photo comparing the two?
[Nexus 4 General] eneka:
210k, ordered launch day, received on-time. US
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees3511:
So I took apart my rev 11 device to compare to the rev 10. The circuit board is a different color green vs a light blue color (pic can be seen on ifixit) and there were some small changes on the board itself.
[Nexus 4 General] mrbkkt1:
211k, ordered on 11/27. Perfect phone.

Hardware revision 10
[Nexus 4 General] port76:
211KPQ here and I got it 14 December perfect:D
[Nexus 4 General] usb7:
Anyone have information on the SKUs?

My 8 GB SKU was LGE960.AUS8BK

My 16 GB SKU was LGE960.AUSGBK

Is that what it is for everyone?
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
My 16GB Australian model purchased 13 Nov SKU is LGE960.AAUGBK

I'm guessing a UK model would be AUKGBK?
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I find out if my Nexus 4 is a rev10 device or a rev11?
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
boot into the bootloader. switch device off, then switch on while pressing volume down and power.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
You are correct. Mine is AUSGBK.
[Nexus 4 General] raz123:
Box: 212k

Bootloader: rev_10

Seems contradictory.

Running fine.
[Nexus 4 General] waterface:
U.S.A. 211K rev_10 AUSGBK here. Shipped Dec. 1st.

Screen calibration seems really good on this one. I have owned a second one shipped Nov. 27th, another U.S.A. 211K AUSGBK if I remember correctly, that I have sold already so I can't check the revision number anymore. The color temperature was much warmer, slightly tending to yellow, and had an overall lower brightness, i.e. the lowest brightness would be lower than in the one I kept. Slightly better blacks but far worse whites. It'd be interesting to see if there is a correlation between the color temperature and the revision numbers.
[Nexus 4 General] tom1807:
S/N 211K

IMEI: 353918-05-132xxx-x

SKU: LGE AUSGBK

Rev. 10

Ordered Nov. 27, US
[Nexus 4 General] pbat23:
I confirm this! my UK model is AUKGBK!
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
Mine was manufactured in September dang I must have got first batch o.O
[Nexus 4 General] anwedr:
212K

2012 December.
[Nexus 4 General] cutiedoggy:
Hmm the sparkly effect can only be seen if you shine it with at flashlight? Just got my nexus 4, not sure how its supposed to be, if I lay it on the table, it just looks black. Sparkle can only be seen if I use flash and take a picture of the back cover,

Saw youtube videos and it seemed that way, but wanna get confirmation though
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
How about when you hold it in sunlight? It can only be seen at certain angles. Otherwise it just looks black.
[Nexus 4 General] cutiedoggy:
Have not tried that yet but if I were to tilt it, the sparkles aren't that bright as portrayed in the promo pictures though, very subtle spots but not so sparkly compared to when u shine your flash light at it.

*fingers crossed* mine doesn't have any issue right?
[Nexus 4 General] virmitsui:
Same here. Ordered at 25 nov, picked up 21.12. at Media Markt.

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Chad_Petree:
Wow these phones are being made a week before we get them! :o Google really has no stock of the phone
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander T.:
So, could you please share the link with us?
[Nexus 4 General] G1ukos:
Guys, please, add issues information as well.

Like rattle, yellow tint, speaker hiss, really hot devices, etc...
[Nexus 4 General] NardVa:
I got my Nexus 4 through Tmobile and on the box label it has the code like everybody else but it also states the manufacturer date. My phone was made on 11/30/12. Nobody else has an actual date?
[Nexus 4 General] waterface:
Speaker crackling here. Slight, almost unnoticeable yellow tint on the lower part of the screen. Look a couple posts above for details on mine's production numbers and dates. What about rev_11 owners? Any issues with the speaker?
[Nexus 4 General] xgianpierx:
My original is 211K got it at launch day.

My RMA that I got last Friday is 210K.

WTF?

---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:17 AM ----------

and both are rev10 the RMA got that yellow screen
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
Mine is bought in Hong Kong, so it is not from Play Store.

IMEI: 353918-05-26xxxx-x

S/N 212KPF_______

it is rev_11

Where can I see the SKU, and what does it mean?
[Nexus 4 General] waterface:
Does the earpiece emit crackling sounds even when the phone is idle/sleeping ? There is a thread about this here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2000276

Thanks for letting us know!
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
Omg it does....:crying:

Seems to be a hardware issue, many got this problem also,

Is it a specific problem for the device itself?

Should I return it?
[Nexus 4 General] waterface:
Not sure what to tell you. Seems to be a widespread issue. It does not bother me all that much, but it shouldn't be there. It would be really nice if Google or LG came up with an explanation. There is an open issue ticket, you can find the link in that thread. Almost 400 people with that same problem...
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
That's why I asked:D

Did you return that?

The thread has closed
[Nexus 4 General] Kick-Ass Joe:
I requested an RMA for that reason.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
just being curious: anyone has got a 16G N4 with an IMEI significantly greater than 353918-05-26xxxx-x?

Would be interesting to know how the production is going.
[Nexus 4 General] waterface:
I bought it in the States and i brought it home to Italy. Not sure how i could go about requesting an RMA.. is the warranty international?
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
Seems mine rather new then:D
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
SKU = Stock Keeping Unit

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock-keeping_unit

It should be printed on the sticker on the box.
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
Can you please advise?
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=<your imei without hyphen here>

Found this online

2 3539180526_ _ _ _ _ LGE960 AHKGBK 212KPF_ _ _ _ _ _ _ 20121214 GLOBAL/GLOBAL N N

this returns a string like this for my device

it means

unknown - IMEI - Model - SKU - S/N - Production Date? - ? - ? - ?

and would the SKU means

A

HK - Hong Kong -> where it is bought

GB - Global?

K - Korea -> where it is made

Can anyone post and match there details here?
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
Very cool!

It gives us means to find out the production rate.

---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

Ok, here is the production rate update with fresh data gathered from a LG webservice:

Phone produced in Oct had serial#

10000 19th of Oct, AUS8BK

20000 USA

45000

60000 AUS

70123 ATMOBK (t-mobile)

Something like 70k devices produced in October

Nov

73000 1-th AO2UBK (O2 UK model)

75000 5-th AO2UBK

80000 5-th AO2UBK

85000 21-th (?) AUKGBK - strange,

90000 9-th AUS8BK

92000 10-th AUS8BK

95000 - USA

109000 - GER

110000 - UK

132000 - USA

138000 - USA

150000 - USA

160000 - AUSGBK

DEC

165000

264000

265133 14-th ADEUBK GERMANY

266133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

267133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

268133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY

269133 15-th ADEUBK GERMANY

270133 15-th ASWSBK SWS Switzerland (looks like around 500 units)

271133 16-th AISRBK Israel

272133 15-th ADEUBK Germany

273133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

274133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

275133 15-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

277133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

278133 17-th AHKGBK Hong Kong

279133 16-th AMYSBK

280123 17-th AMYSBK

289000 18-th UK

300123 19-th ADEGBK

305112 19-th ACA8BK

306000 28-Oct (?) AUSGBK, 211KPPB306000 "csn" is also very different from the "surroundings"

306001 8-Oct AUSGBK 211KPHG306001 esnoutgodate=null >>Never shipped?

306009 4-th Dec AUSGBK 212KPHG306009 esnoutgodate=null

306010 19-th AUS8BK 212KPYR306010 esnoutgodate=null

306020 19-th AUS8BK esnoutgodate=null

314001 19-th AFRGBK

314002 19-th ADEGBK

314050 19-th ADEGBK

314123 19-th ADEGBK

315112 19-th ADE8BK

319123 20-th ADEGBK

320123 20-th ADEGBK

321123 20-th AAUGBK

325112 20-th AUSGBK

330123 20-th AUSGBK

340123 21-th ACAGBK

350123 22-th AUS8BK

360123 26-th AUSGBK

365123 27-th AUS8BK

370123 27-th AUSGBK

374110 28-th AUSGBK

So, they did produce at least 70K devices in October, 90K in November and 210K in December, still counting (just 16G devices).

Not bad, now as christmas orders are completed google and LG are really ramping up the production.

---------- Post added at 09:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 PM ----------

GB seems to decode as follows:

G - 16Gb (8 - 8Gb)

B- Black.
[Nexus 4 General] zivan56:
Interesting. According to that site, mine was manufactured 3 days after ordering (Dec 3 order Dec 6 manufactured). It was shipped on Dec 13, which means it took about a week to get from Korea to Kentucky, USA.

This site gives you more info, btw:

http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/svc/popup/model_check.jsp?esn=<IMEI goes here>

(right click and view source)

It gives you "esnoutgodate" which is I believe when its shipped and "esndate" which is when its assigned an IMEI (during manufacturing?)
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
it seems the SKU is not printed on the HK sticker labels.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
I guess it is quite possible, shipping by air is quite fast nowadays .

I am actually surprised LG simply assigns their IMEIs in a simple sequential order. This makes it trivial to track their production volumes. I guess el goog is less than amused, let's just wait until "the internetz" finds this out.

Ok, there are some gaps in the IMEI sequence and some of the IMEI's are not really sequential. But wast majority of them fit nicely into the common scheme.

It is quite possible they reserve some IMEI/serial# ranges for special purposes, like for example 306xxx. Test units for QA, training etc.

I would be not surprised, if those links would stop working soon.
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
Thanks for the link. Mine was born on 31 October 2012.

A

HK - hong kong (CA - Canada, UK, AU - Australia, US - USA etc)

G - 16 GB (8 - 8GB)

BK - black

i think....
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
The 2 dates for my device are Dec 14 and Dec 15. So it is just one day.:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] thephantom:
Mine is bought in Asia gray market. The pamphlet inside shoes UK number for support so I'm guessing it was sourced there

Looking at the website above though gave me this:

AGBRBK

9th to 11th digit of imei is 064

20121105 GBR 20121107 N

United Kingdom

Don't know if this would be of any help to the op
[Nexus 4 General] n82k:
Very cool info guys! Mine was born October 30 8gb

Sent from Nexus 4 - cm10 - faux kernel002 beta005
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
Market research much??

Just stunning data.

It indicates the combined LG/Google market research did not see a problem offering under 100,000 devices/mo for a market running near 10 million/month, even though their device cost 40% less. Should become a classic business school case study.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
Probably it is more complicated.

Seems that previous three letters belong together, eg. "HKG".

For example:

AGBRBK - GBR

ADEGBK - DEG "GOOGLE_OPEN_16G"

ADE8BK - DE8

ADEUBK - DEU "GERMANY"

AMYSBK - MYS "MALAYSIA"

ATMOBK - TMO "T-Mobile"

AISRBK - ISR "Israel"

ASWSBK - SWS "Switzerland"

---------- Post added at 10:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:52 AM ----------

But they also have no retail presence, no carrier support and no marketing (advertizing). According to the Business 101 - "won't sell". And it probably shows how "good" sales of the NS/GN were.

And LG is not exactly the champion (like sammy), who knows how folks will react?

As for the price, it is not exactly "40% less", both GS and GN settled down at very similar level fairly quickly. And even then did not set the world on fire. So, why the N4 should behave differently?

No LTE means it is not exactly a "cutting edge". Especially in the USA where $350 for most people also means it is "almost twice as expensive as iphone5" which does have LTE.

In other words, it was far from a slam dunk.
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
It cannot be said as 40% cheaper. It seems to hold true only from Google Play store only.

Many places still do not have Google Play store. They have to get it from LG so the price goes up a whole lot.