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[HTC Droid DNA] bakemcbride21:
You should have bought the limited edition NY Yankees DNA :P JK! :)
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Haha! Go Jays! :p
[HTC Droid DNA] bossei:
My comparison is with my rooted Nexus and custom ROM and my Galaxy Nexus is much smoother. I just got my phone yesterday and I have to admit I can't wait to root this thing. Sense is just not doing it for me; for the specs on this hardware it's disappointing how sluggish it is.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
In all fairness, AOSP will always be faster and smoother than any manufacturer's skin/UI.

With that being said, I share your disappointment. When I bought this thing and fired it up, it felt like the Rezound all over again. I was in awe of the screen just like the Rezound and then when I dove into actually using the phone, I was disappointed.

While this phone is no doubt smoother than the Rezound was, it felt way too sluggish for the specs that it has. I remember feeling the exact same way about the Rezound at the time.

Since I prefer not to use third party launchers and I don't really like AOSP, I exchanged the phone for something else. I didn't want to be stuck with it and always feel disappointed.

Good luck and I hope you find joy out of it!
[HTC Droid DNA] earthrocker:
sorry, but this feels NOTHING like the rezound. the rezound was sluggish because it was on an old last gen processor when it came out, and sense 3.6 was much heavier than sense 4 and up. the rosie on this is much smoother and more fluid than even sense 4.0, and overall this thing is just a faster phone. i'm sure you love your note 2, and while it's a great phone, it's just a giant S3, which it seems a lot of people on this forum already have/had lol including myself.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Look, I understand your love for the DNA and that's great, it really is. But you are misunderstanding me. I didn't say that the DNA performs like the Rezound because it certainly doesn't. I simply was saying that I had the same feelings about it.

In other words, I felt that the phone felt too sluggish for the specs that it has. I felt the same way about the Rezound. I also said the DNA is much faster and smoother than the Rezound.

I understand your feelings, but nobody will ever convince me that the DNA is fast and smooth. In opening apps and general tasks it certainly is, just like any other high end smartphone released recently. So it doesn't really have an upper hand there. But in UI scrolling it's sluggish compared to the S3 or N2. And while it may not bother you or most people, it kills me.

After the Rezound I told myself that I would never put up with another "high end" smartphone that was laggy, sluggish or whatever you want to call it. So after spending a week with the DNA and feeling like I did when I had my Rezound, I exchanged it for the N2. I had the right to do that. I paid my $35 restocking fee and abided by their policy.

And the most common misnomer is calling the N2 a giant S3. It is so far from the truth but I won't go into that here. But just know that it's a misinformed statement.

And look, at the end of the day you have to have the phone that you like and makes you happy. For you it's the DNA and for me it's not. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and I have no problems with you loving the DNA. It is a phone with an unmatched screen in the industry and amazing specs. It just wasn't for me.

Merry Christmas!
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
First off you don't have a clue what you are talking about. The DNA isn't one bit laggy. It has animations. If you want it to "feel" faster go into developer settings and turn them down or off! Same exact way with rezound. And I had s3 & currently have the note II and they are a whole different ball game. My note with clean Rom runs almost identical to DNA with transitions off but I run them on cause I like the transitions and sense ui. Except the DNA smokes in benchmarks etc. I don't get why people like you get the DNA and complain about transitions (sense ui) you didn't learn with rezound!?!?

Open up an app and get to somewhere that has a scroll in it and the DNA is fast cause there won't be any transitions within an app. It's not the phone learn how sense works before you knock it or change transitions

Not to mention an aosp rom for note is about 175 mb and what is a touch wiz Rom? 900 ish? Which one you think will feel quicker??
[HTC Droid DNA] Div033:
I don't think he's talking about animations. It seems to me he's a FPS (frames per second) junkie like myself.

I'm assuming he's like me and has a trained eye for higher framerates. I want 60fps all the time. I unfortunately don't have that on 4.1 though it was much closer on 4.2. So what he's saying (I think) is that the DNA doesn't have 60fps when scrolling. It may be really high and as a result very smooth, but not 60fps smooth.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
So I don't know what I'm talking about? Ok, cool. :rolleyes:

The best word isn't laggy, I shouldn't have mentioned that word. Laggy to me was scrolling home screens on the Rezound where the animations would actually stutter and were choppy. That is lag to me.

The better words for the DNA would be heavy and slow. I really don't understand how people don't notice this? And yes, I know the 0.5x and turning off animations trick. And I can tell you right now that home screen scrolling with my Note 2 on 1.0x animations is still much faster and smoother than 0.5x on the DNA when I had it.

People keep making excuses that the DNA has different animations and slowed down the rosie to make it smoother. And while that is definitely true, HTC made things slower to give the effect of smoother. At the end of the day it's still slow regardless of their intentions. Slow is slow.

And within apps my Note 2 is plenty smooth. And don't get me started about synthetic benchmarks lol. The Note 2 feels faster to me in normal everyday use. That's all that matters to me, I don't need benchmarks to tell me how fast my phone is or isn't.

And what does AOSP have to do with this? I am completely aware that not a single manufacturer UI/skin will be faster than AOSP. And have you seen the size of Sense roms? Lol.

Ok, here's the deal. I completely agree and understand that the DNA is a powerhouse with an unmatched screen. I never denied that. In fact, it's a fantastic phone and I understand why a lot of you got it.

But in my opinion, and my opinion only... Sense just isn't up to par yet. It's so frustrating because HTC always has amazing hardware but the software bogs it down no matter how good the specs are. Maybe Sense 5 will finally get it right like Samsung finally got it right with Touchwiz on the S3 and Note 2.

Either way, the DNA is a fine phone and I hope you enjoy it. It just isn't for me and that's ok. And since I don't own it anymore, maybe I should leave. I know a lot of you would like that lol.

At the end of the day, I respect your opinion. Merry Christmas!
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
Sorry but don't think the note has 60 fps either though. If I recall the DNA and note have almost identical fps when I ran them both on stock
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Have you handled and tried a Note 2? Put them side by side and scroll through home screens. Especially with widgets. You will notice the speed and smoothness difference right away. I've had both side by side and I'm not imagining it lol.

Oh and as far as real world performance between the two, opening apps, etc, check out this video. He nails it pretty good and it helped me make my decision when I thought I would be losing a lot of performance by going to the Note 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knQH2dcwPcE
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
I never had problems on rezound either. And did you ever bother to root DNA and flash a Rom or two? Maybe a kernel and change the oom (out of memory) values that speed it up?

& explain to me how sense still pulls off better quadrant/benchmark scores with "bloated" slower sense on it? HTC knows what they are doing. Sense is sense. It's supposed to be slowed down in areas and have effects that is sense. If you don't like that then don't buy an HTC device. I buy HTC for that reason. The implementation in sense is remarkable and top notch that another system ui can't beat right now and still be able to put up scores like it does and fly they have something going.

And on the aosp roms are faster because they have less processes to run. And what I'm saying is that sense is almost on par with that all "bloated and slowed down" that is something to be complimented of. And actually I believe sense roms are slightly smaller then tw. Last time I checked codis is right around 750 mb and clean rom on my note is right around 900 mb so technically sense is smaller by a little bit.

I'm not knocking the note either it's a great phone that's why I have both. They both serve different purposes to me. Have both with me right now for couple days over Christmas so I can switch it up if I want or want a different feel. Tw I'm not sure is as good as sense. Doesn't implement all the features as much or as well as sense I don't think.

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Um read my signature. I have both. I have used one in each hand on several occasions. Never said the note is a slouch by any stretch but the note with an over clocked gpu keeps up with the DNA without gpu over clocking don't think it's available yet even.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks sir, very well said. I couldn't see your sig on my phone.

Again, the DNA is a great phone. It wasn't an easy decision for me to switch. I do really like HTC's design and build quality and I like the look of Sense and most of its functionality.

The Note 2 fits me better at the moment, but I'm always open to everything. I only keep my phones 6 months to a year lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
Man I'm lucky if I get 6 months for a phone. I had an s3 since the day after it came out up into DNA came out and sold it and got note 2 too lol

Yeah the note has some nice functions that I like and DNA doesn't have at least some not yet like aosp over clocked gpu etc my note right now is like a developer device lol I have like 5 roms and a few kernels on my 64 gb card taking up some space! So it's just fun to use at home and for long trips or something that I need space for etc
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
you guys talking about FPS, i don't think you get exactly what it means.

scrolling screens on the DNA is slower, but it's still 60fps. the actual heavy animation of it is done so there's no longer framerate jumps like sense 4 had. any of you run sense 4 before on the one X, or rezound roms? it could get "caught" and lag out, and drop framerate in the middle of switching screens. by making sense 4+ "heavier," it eliminates these problems scrolling. it's one set speed, rather than dynamic.

now, switching screens on the GS3 is just faster because they animate it much faster. however, touchwiz gets "caught" up like sense 4 did, which is the main reason i switched to nova launcher (besides the constant redraw.....). touch wiz always had a milisecond delay when switching to a screen with a widget on it, it was a small hiccup. it's still mostly a 60fps framerate, but the animation is what gets caught up.

people from the rez forums know i always complained about notification dropdown lag. it was like, less than 30fps and choppy on the rezound. try it on the GS3. THAT is 60fps. that's a PERFECT fast dropdown, which unfortunately, jellybean has ruined on the GS3, but i won't get into that (since the GS3 on ics is a faster framerate dropdown than even stock android on the Nexus 7 or galaxy nexus..sigh..)

the dropdown on sense 4+ is also perfect and 60fps at all. no more lag. it's finally gone! HTC finally learned how to correctly fix the issue that's plagued HTC phones since sense 2.0.

the DNA runs its stuff at 60fps, even if some of its animations are slower. the GS3 also runs its stuff at 60fps. the GS3 has a faster switching launcher stock, but it suffers from the same little hiccups that sense 4 did (but sense 4 was much worse) while the DNA is very "rigid" and "solid" feeling, without that hiccup that sense 4 had.

believe me, any of you who know me from the rezound forums know i have a ridiculously annoying eye for lag and framerate (just ask joelz, i was always a pain in his ass when testing his roms, but in the end, that's what helped make them solid releases)
[HTC Droid DNA] Ubuntu_LTS:
Good poiny
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
If you remember correctly, I was the other guy with you that was super sensitive to lag on the Rezound forum lol. And Joelz and company were able to smooth the rosie out which made the Rezound tolerable for much longer.

And you're right, the notification pulldown was horrible on that phone. That was definitely gone on the DNA.

In the end I wasn't able to get used to the slower animations on the DNA. I like faster and smoother and the Note 2 definitely got it right.

It's so funny because when I had my S3 I always noticed that little delay when a widget was on the screen too. And the launcher redraw. Fortunately the Note 2 has eliminated both of those issues for me. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to handle it lol.

It's so funny how we are both super sensitive to the same thing up to this day lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
crazy, right? we can percieve that tiny bit of lag. it's such a horrible trait to have, isn't it?!?! haha :)

but hey man, whatever phone makes you happy is the one you gotta get! it's just all personal preference and choice!

so do you think that quad core exynos in the note 2 is what gives it that extra boost over the dual snapdragon in the s3? we just got the note 2 in stock at my store. we only got one, and i didn't try it out yet, but i'm excited to. either way, i know i'll stick with my DNA since for me the note 2 is a little too big, but after having the s3 for months, i do really like samsung stuff too..but HTC will always have my heart! lol
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Just enjoy your phone, no need to justify or defend it. As long as you like it that's all that matters.

Have a merry Christmas.
[HTC Droid DNA] Hendrickson:
You want fast, do as others have recommended. Dump scene and use Apex or Nova launcher. I'm doing this and running 320 DPI vs 480. Looks amazing
[HTC Droid DNA] thiagoribeirorj:
nice
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
If I'm just gonna use a third party launcher, why not just get a phone with better battery life and expandable storage? That's what I already did, but that's why I'm not a fan of third party launchers. I like buying the phone that fits me best out of the box being able to have full functionality from their UI.
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
I never change launchers. I agree if you can't run stock launcher why do you buy the phone in the first place? DNA always runs sense and note always runs tw when activated
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Agreed. Merry Christmas dude!
[HTC Droid DNA] jguns112:
Different launchers add a lot of features and tend to be snappier in my experience, plus they tend to look more like stock android. This is a plus for me but if you prefer the way Sense looks than I can see why you wouldn't like other launchers.
[HTC Droid DNA] Memnoch73:
Meh... It's all about choice in Android. Until a stock launcher comes with multiple docks I will stay with Apex. Gotta keep my homescreens clean.
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
Merry Christmas too man!!!

While I agree you have to have clean home screens I can manage sense with a bunch of apps hidden via circle launcher.

Transparent icon don't see a thing....

Now press the transparent icon and boom all my frequent apps come up! Flawlessly. Clean home screens with tons of apps with out scrolling through different docks
[HTC Droid DNA] bossei:
Where do you find this transparent icons?
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
cant remember been using it for as long as circle launcher has been out. i can post it up somewhere if you like
[HTC Droid DNA] bossei:
Yes please!
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
Here you go. Let me know if it works for ya

http://db.tt/zsIUNTyI
[HTC Droid DNA] Div033:
Ah yes, the hiccup. I noticed this immediately when I first played with a Sense 4 phone. I'm upset that my GS3 has it too! If I'm off doing a lot of non-launcher tasks and go back to the launcher, it hiccups for every screen once. Very annoying. I don't ever have launcher redraws though. I assume that's because I always run a custom ROM where they lock the launcher in memory. AOSP 4.1 has similar behavior though to a lesser degree and 4.2 had it nearly eliminated.

Very informative post. I know what its like to use a launcher which doesn't offer dynamic scrolling speed and it certainly isn't as reciprocal as one that does. I'm glad they got rid of those hiccups though.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
yeah man, that was the number 1 reason i was DYING to root my GS3, because i saw how to lock it into memory etc. problem is, i've got a GS3 where the charge port is busted, and i've just been swapping batteries instead of charging it lol so i can't even root it. that's why i started using nova
[HTC Droid DNA] Memnoch73:
Fair enough man... BUT I also like the ability to change my icons often. If I recall correctly I was running sense when I first picked up the phone but I went back to Apex since the Sense icons are awful. I have disliked those since my T-bolt days.

I'm really not trying to argue with ya. To each his own. :)
[HTC Droid DNA] luke1333:
Nah I don't take it as arguing at all. It's a constructive discussion! ;) and I don't mind the icons at all but I could see how some could not like them. And does look nice lol see this is why android is great lol and I never could find a launcher that was ever perfect. Launcher pro was the closet but then you always lost stock widgets etc etc so I kept stock and made it work lol glad to see can have a good adult discussion lol
[HTC Droid DNA] jper11:
I was undecided between the note 2 and the DNA as well. When reading text side by side the DNA was so much cleaner and crisp so I went with the DNA. If you have such a great eye for detail how does the lower resolution not bother you?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lior84:
Just bought gt n8000 (Wifi +3g). How do I know which version exactly do I have? I want to put custom rom and want to be sure that I install the right one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samir_a:
Well as of I know there two 8000 version one is wifi+3g+calling other one does not have calling but that one does have a different model number.

What is the model number on your tablet if it says N8000 then it is N8000 only which will have all three features
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultramag69:
N8000 = 3G +wifi.

N8010/13 = wifi only...

If you want to use your 3G connection flash roms for N8000...

Be aware that some roms are suitable for all devices....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samir_a:
:D N8000 = 3G+wifi+calls

N8005 = 3G+wifi (No Calls)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akxak:
Settings - Device Information - model number.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rferrett:
I'm guessing it won't drop automatically to rooted phones with custom roms.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danielting:
Trying to update via Kies. Update notification but computer doesn't seem to want to download firmware.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tcntad:
Beacuse its rooted:)

Try flashing stockrecovery first..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danielting:
Thought might have been cos of that but was previously rooted and still manage to update to ICS.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] delsus:
Just download 4.1.2, it is being rolled out now, we have Polish, German and UK at least now.

And no it will not drop automatically if you have custom firmware, you will need to flash via Odin.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaynpayn:
From what i read the premium suite is just a fancy name for all the features the lastest 4.1.2 official roms already have. No point in waiting for the "official" kies update. If you're rooted, just pick up mobile odin, flash the latest and be done with in less than 5 minutes. It most likely won't even delete anything from your phone, mine never did :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] earled:
My commuter case just arrived from Ebay. I quickly took the Verizon case off and polished up my shiny phone.

Case went on easy and fits perfect. The buttons press perfect. All cut outs are lined up perfect. The case really didnt add too much size to the phone. I didn't get the Defender for this reason. There is a nice lip around the edge so you can put your phone down face down safely.

I can really recommend this case. I bet I could drop my phone with no damage. Not that I plan on dropping it, but hey its a phone and im sure I will drop it sooner or later.

Sent from my unlocked Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] SIXINONEDAY:
Commuter Case

Can you post some pics?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] earled:
Ill try when I get home

Sent from my unlocked Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] shook187:
Great more threads and more pictures of the same case already pictured here 100 times :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] elbarto7:
Pics or it didn't happen:D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] KaliS-Pugilist:
post pics dude, do worry about the boo birds that have nothing better to do but talk about others posts. please share, especially if you take some good quality pics. i just ordered from mobilecityonline and hope to get it sometime soon. i was going to go with the Incipio DualPro Shine ($22 or ebay) but when with the Otterbox for the history of quality protection (even though it costs 2x as much, yikes).
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] randpost:
Nothing wrong with more pictures and another perspective on accessories.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] earled:
Allright guys, I had a major car issue yesterday. Ill get some pics up tonight. Still loving this case. You guys want pics of the phone in the case and just the case right?

Sent from my unlocked Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mitchellvii:
But what I really love is the totally useless comments complaining about threads they don't like. EVERYONE benefits from these. Yay!

If someone is excited about their new case let them have their fun. Who cares if you don't like it?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] gr8fasushi:
is the soft part of the case very squishy or sticky that would attract lint? I'm on the fence with this case since it's a really expensive case
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] earled:
Not soft and squishy at all firmer that the outer rubber on the defender, I think. Definatly wont attract link and such

Sent from my unlocked Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] earled:
Pics aren't happening tonight. Dig cam battery is dead and I can't find the charger.

Sent from my unlocked Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] randpost:
I got mine in today. I think I might eat a restocking fee and go white to match my case, although titanium looks good also.

I have 6 GN2 cases and this is the best case I have thus far, and not as bulky as I thought it would be.

Included screen protector works well and fits perfectly.

Here are some pics:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] KaliS-Pugilist:
nice pics, mien should be arriving tomorrow, but im going out of town tonight, lol. will be back wednesday. i have a white gn2 and almost went with the glacier otterbox, but decided on the white. had i seen your pics i might have been swayed a bit more.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] randpost:
Too bad my main camera is my Note 2. I had to resort to my Galaxy Nexus for shots.

Post some pics when you get back. Would love to see the color combo.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] KaliS-Pugilist:
here are my pics...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] randpost:
Nice pictures, thanks. I just ordered a black commuter today to mix and match.

I find myself throwing my phone around all the time now. Not sure if that a good thing or a bad thing.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] thejron:
Where can I buy one retail?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jlczl:
Wonder why Otterbox doesn't offer a holster with these like they do for the Defender series.