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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] blud7:
I'm not bashing the Note. I have the phone and the tab as well and love both.

I'm commenting on the op's qualms about the choice he made, which he regrets.

All I'm saying is the op obviously didn't do any research before buying. Some of the

stuff he hates about the Asus TF are also present with the Note. Which means he

is still making the same mistake of not researching.

The reason I said he should keep it is cuz he seems to be guilt-tripping over a perfectly

good purchase. That and he's going to sell his perfectly good tab and be out $100 bucks

because of it.

And you're making a point of there being cheaper docks for the Note 10.1.

Cheaper dock options are also available for the TF700.

And no, the note does NOT have LOTS of ROMs but dev is heading there. On that subject

I was saying that if he waits, dev will get better for the TF.There are ~20 custom ROMs

on xda for the TF700 and less than ten for the Note 10.1. Two or three for the WiFi only devices.

I still also maintain that Samsung drags its feet when it comes to updates.

The TF had JB since October. As of writing this there still is no JB for the N8013, no

leak, no official. Asus is in fact known for their frequent updates.

The tab has quality control issues as I well. I had to return the first one I bought since

the screen was defective. If you read up, this very forum will confirm that I was not alone

in this. Some report lag with the software. Asus is well known for having poor quality

control though.

With all that said, I considered both tabs when buying, did my research and bought the

Note. I love the one I have now and don't regret it at all. It is amazingly good despite any reviews

saying this or that is better.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] neevz:
I've had both and the Note is a better choice (for me at least). A lot less lag and more options. I have the OG note for my phone and have it running stock android. I much prefer touchwiz on the 10.1. Multi window is awesome and I actually use the IR blaster a lot more than I thought I would. Lots of cool features that vanilla android doesn't offer. I vote Note

Sent from my big 10 inch..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] rap6388:
I would really like your opinion on why you think the n8013 in the US has not seen the JB update and why there seems to be not even a peep about it. All promotion of the note 10.1 happens only on the Samsung Mobile International Facebook Page, including the big Christmas vid, but not word about the 10.1 on the Samsung Mobile USA page. It is like the product vanished.

Thoughts?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Because HTC, Motorola, and Samsung all suck at managing device updates. Before I got my N2 two weeks ago I was using a Teg3 One X. In an official press release with quotes from their CEO HTC said the Teg3 One X JB roll-out was going to be in October. Taiwan (HTC's home country) got a JB update in October that was so bad the roll out was stopped for the rest of the world. It started again two weeks ago and only five regions out of over a dozen have received it. In between, regional HTC offices have been providing inaccurate and conflicting updates on what the JB schedule really is.

Back to Samsung. Having nothing to do with updates Samsung's s/w management process is a cluster f-k. A single device can have over twenty four "current" versions of s/w running on it because Samsung creates unique s/w for each region a device is sold in. A good example is that while rolling out JB to the N8000 they were still releasing 4.0.4 ROMs in certain regions of the world. So there are newer ICS ROMs than there are JB. HTC rolls out a single version of "current" s/w that all of their devices globally (except specific Asian markets) get updated to within the span of a few weeks. So HTC's managing two versions (global and Asia) of s/w per device while Samsung's managing dozens. And the complexity this creates makes Samsung's update process overly complex and difficult for us on the outside to track and make sense of.

So, the short answer to your question of "where's the N8013's JB update?," is that it's stuck somewhere in Samsung's plumbing waiting to be deployed. It's fun to talk about reasons for delays like patent issues and the like but I really think it’s just Samsung being Samsung. The OG 8.9 on AT&T just got ICS last week after the rest of the world received it in August. Go figure. ;)

The upside is that Samsung's s/w is versatile for end-users to manage with Odin so that when a newer ROM comes out for a different region you can just use that with no repercussions. My Brazilian N2 is running a Panamanian ROM and my also Brazilian Note 10.1 is running a British ROM. At some point soon either someone on XDA or Samfirmware is going to post a complete MD5 file for the N8010. Once that happens every 8010/3 user can update to it using Odin without the current complexity of loading a new ROM followed by using recovery to update it to JB from SD. Look at it this way; at least we have some options. The poor folks waiting on HTC and Motorola just have to wait.

This is kind of old but makes the point of how complex Samsung's s/w managment process is. This is a list of ROMs deployed

just

for the N8000. Kind of scary.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
I don't understand what the problem is with the proprietary connector? Seems to work fine for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] blud7:
The problem is twofold:

Compatibility

Portability

Which are two sides of the same coin. You must use Samsung's connector

which limits your options for peripherals, unless you get an adapter. Even

then the lack of a separate HDMI port and the fact that you can't charge via

your PC's USB port (not enough current) are annoying. And you can't use your

devices chargers which means one more charger to carry around.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] goodie:
small price to pay for the dogs bollocks of android tabs, I have been putting off buying waiting for decent specs with micro sd, bought a nexus 7 & took it back next day, felt like cheap plastic crap! I would love to see a review for the note 10.1 based on a price of £268 which is what I paid after cashback, im sure it would get editor's choice awards across the board!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] blud7:
I was just answering his question :crying:

And that's a good price. I paid $499 plus shipping.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ultramag69:
You can charge on a PC's USB... Just reeeeeeeeeally slowly.... Best to leave overnight to charge in this instance, but I have been using it before and charging at the same time...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toofank:
Thanks for all the info. Im still waiting for someone to buy the asus :)

The thing that was most dissapointing was the lag. Jerky surfing and delayed responses.

Dont care much about that tiny higher screen resolution
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xdapao3:
The JB update came out the day I bought mine so YMMV.

Which is relevant only if the N8013 is the version he is going to buy (and seeing that he is from Norway it most probably is not).

Sure but IMNSHO it's the best one out there.

Agreed, how could he assume for example that the Transformer had to have 2GB of Ram just because it was more expensive... :silly:

Yes, which means neither of them has an advantage over the other in this respect.

False, I got a Samsung original desktop dock (stand, charge and audio out) for € 20 (in Italy) and it works with practically all of the Samsung 7" and 10" tablet lines.

Which is its ONLY advantage.

Which is actually a PLUS (unless you are a gamer maybe, which I am not).

False, Asus has been one of the best ones for their tablet line but Samsung is not bad at all when you compare it with all of the others and has actually been pretty good with their smartphones.

I run the official JB on my Note 10.1 3G and should get the official JB update on my OG Note very soon.

What he should keep in mind is:

- the Note 10.1 has 2GB RAM (a killer spec for how I use it)

- MultiWindow

- the 3G version is one of the handful of 10" tablets in the world (all of them Samsung AFAIK) that have full GSM call and message capabilities (another killer spec for me)

- it has the S-Pen (I don't use it all that often but when I need it it's VERY useful)

- very good and loud stereo audio

- Touchwiz and Samsung added SW, services and personalizations

- I don't know how it would do with games (I don't have a single one installed on my mobile devices) but on everything else the quad-core Exynos is the fastest and smoothest Android tablet I have ever seen.

- very good battery life

- one of the very best non-HD displays

- light and with a PLASTIC back (I HATE metal bodies!!!!)

- it has an IR blaster and you can use it as a smart remote
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] raed81:
I have the 8013 version and itsrunning jb and every thing work just fine ...this tablet is amazing
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] blud7:
And today the ASUS got 4.2.1. That's what I mean about Samsung dragging their feet.

And by dock I meant a keyboard dock combo, based on what was said in the op.

But I agree that when it comes down to it, the Note wins for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xdapao3:
"Asus has been one of the best ones for their tablet line but Samsung is not bad at all when you compare it with all of the others"

Oh.. OK. You meant keyboard docks.

Yeah they are pretty hard to find for the Note 10.1 then again since no other tablet has Transformer-style keyboard docks I find the much better alternative to be a dock like the one I mentioned plus a BT keyboard (which is what I use plus a BT mouse as well). This setup is still pretty cheap too.

Also, instead of docking it if I want to use it in this config for short periods of time I use a Belkin adjustable tablet desktop stand and I find this setup to be, in some ways, better than a Transformer-type solution (you can easily and quickly pick up/turn your tablet and put it back at any time).

Yes, to me it's without question the OVERALL best tablet out there today.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] junrider:
Its been awhile and I havent been up to date, but doesnt the note support 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz on the router, while the 700 only supports 2.4Ghz? Someone will have to double check for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xdapao3:
P.S.

I checked and no, it hasn't.

It's just an AOSP ROM.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Asus deserves huge credit for being the first to push out OS point and version updates. They lose most of that credit because it takes multiple subsequent updates to get the first update to work properly. There were two follow-on updates within two weeks when the TF700 got JB. There are still some odd problems yet to be resolved like random black horizontal lines appearing on the display. And the N2 just received 4.1.2 in Poland so it's not like Samsung's eating bon bons.

The reason it takes the N10 six hours to charging using a regulation USB adapter is because there's a limit to how much power can be sent over it. People on the N10 forum are waiting with baited breath for the proprietary pogo pin charging adapter to come out so they can buy it at additional cost to decrease charging time. Charging time via USB isn't as big a deal on devices with smaller batteries but is on devices with 7K and 9K mAh batteries.

As for Asus' keyboard accessory if it were the "killer feature" people make it out to be Asus' 10" tablet sales wouldn't be languishing. And they don't own a patent on it so if it were really a sought after feature, after eighteen months on the market, you'd see more Android manufacturers following in their footsteps. The two best-selling Android tablets right now based on Q3 statistics are the N7 and Note 10.1. Asus said the run-rate on the N7 is a million a month. Based on Q3 earnings Samsung sold a million Note's each in August and September. Price is what's driving N7 sales and its unique features (certainly not its display) are what are driving the Note's. Asus sold 700K "Transformers" in all of Q3 so that tells me the circa-80's pen is a more desirable feature to the masses than a clip-on keyboard. The N7, especially with the storage bump, will be an excellent seller over the holidays, The Note should also because of its uniqueness and Samsung's distribution. Surface looks like it's going to be a disaster and, with limited distribution, the N10's going to have a hard time gaining traction at iPad prices. Asus, with no marketing and limited distribution will probably sell less 10" tablets in Q4 than they did last year. We'll see when the stats come out in January.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toofank:
Im sitting here with my crappy Asus and I havent got any updstes. Still ics
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] blud7:
After all is said, it appears you hate the Asus. Then get rid of it and get the Note. It's good.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] gmfeny:
I sold my tf700 to get a bote 10.1 and I don't regret it but if you think the tf700 has only a few Roms then your going to be pissed when you see the note section
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ultramag69:
The thing with the note is though, that the rom installed is pretty good anyway... I wouldn't say perfect, and there's always people who ***** and moan about something, but it is easy to use and works right out of the box...

JB makes it better but then again it has been tweaked and old bottlenecks have been rectified... That's why we update....

Overall I was mighty pleased with my purchase, I got my bro one for christmas too, and am really looking forward to what the devs can do but if they decide its pretty good as is then so be it....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
But sadly, to get comparable performance out of a TF700, users have no choice but to void their warranty by unlocking it and doing a bunch of hacks to get around Asus' h/w and s/w issues. At least with the Note what you get out-of-the-box makes hacking optional.

For example:

- Using data2SD to bypass the painfully slow in-built NAND by using a class 10 SD card for system reads/writes.

- Using browser2RAM to bypass the NAND and store cached browser data in RAM.

- Disabling fsync to boost SQLite database reads/writes.

Here's the downside of those hacks. Browser2RAM uses volatile memory so after every reboot the browser loses its saved settings (bookmarks, etc.) and reverts to stock. Also, with 1GB of RAM available, if the browser's cache gets big there's no RAM left for multitasking. Fsync writes files in its buffer to memory so that if an app or the device experiences a hard close data integrity is preserved. Turning it off will corrupt the database in either of those situations. So in addition to having to Frankenstein the TF700 to get it to perform well you need to add $150 to the base price; $50 for a mandatory class 10 SD card and $100 for a SquareTrade warranty to replace the factory warranty that's voided by unlocking it.

Quite a few TF700 owners have one because they had the Prime which had wireless issues because of its all-metal back cover and Best Buy and Amazon did an even swap. With better performing options available now, judging by the lack of activity in the TF700 forum, I’d say interest in it has peaked. Asus doing little to promote it hasn't helped.

Here's a video Anand did explaining the issues Asus' choice of NAND solution creates. He actually started testing IO on the devices he reviews specifically because of the issues people were having with Asus tablets.

[YOUTUBE]S6Q0Qv3m36Q[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toofank:
I sent the tf700 back. Bought a 10.1 with 2gig ram.

No more asus for me. That **** was laggy. Even on jellybean with everything disabled.

U had like 250-300mb free RAM at max!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] HUYI:
That is really bad the asus tablets can cost up to £500+ they don't come cheap and are not worth that much, the note has far better specs and cost less, my xoom lagged that bad that is why i got rid of it and got the note, couldn't be any happyier :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Asus may not even intend to continue competitng in the 10.1" tablet market. The TF300 was released in April, 2012. The TF700 was announced in March, 2012, and released in August, 2012. The TF201 (Prime), TF300, and TF700 are all just variations of the same design that was introduced in November, 2011. So there's been nothing new or even talked about from Asus regarding 10.1" tablets for four months and the design of everything their currently selling is over a year old. We'll see what they announce at CES next month.

Two 7" tablets passed through the FCC in the U.S. and their head of India said this...

Citing Uneaz Quraishi, director of sales and distribution at Asus India, The Hindu Business Line reported Saturday the Taiwanese PC maker hopes to sell 400,000 tablets, or 20 percent of the two million tablet market in India, in the coming year, aided by aggressive marketing and catering new products to suit consumers' needs. It currently has a 7-percent stake in the market, he noted. One of the devices Asus hopes will makes a splash in the Indian market is the Google Nexus 7 tablet, which went on sale in India in November retailing at INR 19,990 (US$367). On the other end of the price scale, it plans to unveil a budget 7-inch Android-powered tablet for around INR 15,000 (US$275) in January 2013. Alex Huang, managing director of system business group at Asus India, told The Mobile Indian blog last month: "Till now we didn't have a tablet catering to the entry-level buyers in the country, which is quite a huge market. But with the launch of the 7-inch tab in January, Asus will address this issue."
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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] shinzz:
Surprised Demandarin hasn't shown up with Tegra 4 comments here with all the Tegra 4 leaks lately... & how Asus will bounce back with Tegra 4 tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toofank:
Im running costume rom on my note8010. Its soooo smooth. And i love the IR and the great speakers.

Ant believe ppl even bother buying other brands!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
By the time Teg4 comes out Exynos 5 Quad and S4 Pro with Krait v3 will be out. Teg4's got decent specs but there's nothing ground breaking in it. Dual channel memory has existed since Exynos 4 and S4 and it doesn't appear to have an in-built IO controller like all the new Samsung and Qualcomm chips do. Samsung has publically said they won't use Nvidia chips so there goes 70% of the Android market. HTC used Teg3 on one phone as did LG and both are using S4 Pro now. You can throw a party but that doesn't mean anyone will come. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] HUYI:
i know, it's silky smooth, no lag when typing too :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
I was just in a similar position. I ordered a galaxy tab 2 10.1 cause of the price bit then cancelled my order and found a brand new note on eBay for 425, free shipping and no tax. Looking at the reviews I wouldn't have been happy with the tab 2. I played with the note in best buy and had to get it. And I checked the development and its more active than the gtab section. I looked into Asus too but heard a lot of bad reviews. I can't wait for my note to get here.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toofank:
I hope u got the 2gig version. I Noticed the shop was selling many versions og note 10.1 with only 1gb RAM.

I think amount of RAM have a lot to say about how smooth the Note works.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hoss_n2:
All note 10.1 has 2gb of ram, the one with 1gb must be fake, prerelease or you are mistaken it with tab 2 10.1
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Mr. bird:
Any note I ever saw had 2g of ram. I never heard of it having any less and I did a lot of research about it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] toofank:
The place I got it from apparently has the wrong specs

http://www.supersmart.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:4658183

http://www.supersmart.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:4658184

http://www.supersmart.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:5230810

Minne means memory
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sudisk:
Just checked on Amazon, it is actually bearing 2GB ram.

I just received mine. Coming from Germany, it already has jellybean so I'm not in a hurry to flash a custom rom.

I wasn't supposed to open the box before xmas :) so I did not play much with it, but it looks promising.

Sent from the Great Note
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] eliotmat:
So, I actually now own both an Asus Transformer Prime and Galaxy note 10.1. Both were purchased on Craigslist...

I picked up the note 10.1 today, in fact. I've owned the prime for several months now.

Trying to decide which one to keep.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XeroHertZ:
Hi all,

I'm looking for an app that would allow me to join multiple pictures on my phone but without having any frames or borders that seperate the images upon joining them, is there any that exist? I've tried a lot and most have frames/borders.

Thanks :)
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Hi xda :)

I am totally out of practice but really want a jelly bean update. I am running the last Taboonay vache did before he had to stop development, so i already have cwm running (version 1.3.4)

Is this just like usual? Grab a rom, boot cwm, wipe data dalvik and cache, flash new rom? Do i need to update cwm first?

And finally, what jelly bean rom (if any) should i go with? Looking for something nice and stable.

Thanks in advance for your help and advice!
[Acer Iconia A500] gears177:
noooooo lol you have to update your bootloader if your still on honeycomb i got the ota then got an unlocked bootloader after that install your recovery and your good honeycomb roms wont work ics bootloader though so beware
[Acer Iconia A500] TastyPi:
This thread has a guide on how to get from stock to a custom ROM, it also details how to unlock the bootloader.

In one of their updates, Acer updated the Iconia's bootloader (the part that starts up Android) and it is now necessary to install a patched version in order to install ICS/Jelly Bean ROMS. Feel free to ask more questions in that thread if you get stuck.
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Thanks, both of you! I finally figured it out, now got unlocked boot loader - light speed ROM (the jb rooms seem a little too soon to use), custom kernel, and overclocking enabled with the Lulzactive governor. I am *very* happy!
[Acer Iconia A500] TastyPi:
Glad I could help, I'd appreciate it if you clicked the "Thanks" button under my post :)
[Acer Iconia A500] entropy.of.avarice:
Done!
[Android Apps and Games] powerpoint45:
This app covers everything you need to know in 10th grade world history regarding Buddhism, Confucianism, and Hinduism. This application makes it easy to learn and memorize things about these religions, it includes swipe flash cards, informational videos streamed from the Internet made by "Crash Course World History", and it has a quiz that asks questions at random. Please rate generously as I am releasing this app to everyone for free. Keep in mind that most of the images used for this application were found off the Internet. Also this app includes two videos pulled from the Youtube channel; "Crash Course World History". At the moment this app only covers Buddhism, Confucianism, and Hinduism, but in the future I am planning to add more.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionM.world.religions.and.phiosophies
[Android Apps and Games] abadasstanker69:
Just tried it. Half of your pictures are cropped in such a way that you can't even see what it says. It's not very intuitive either. There's no buttons to specifically change the pictures back and forth. All you can do is touch the screen and go to the next picture.
[Android Apps and Games] powerpoint45:
Do you mind uploading a picture of what you are talking about? I do need to work on the resources some.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Labeled:
My brothers atrix is failing to update root is disabled with voodoo.. I can't think of anything else. It downloads and reboots but after it gets about 1/5 through the install it gives a red triangle with the exclamation point above the Android chest. Suggestions?
[Motorola Atrix HD] ATGAdmin:
Has he deleted any system/app, or changed the boot animation?

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