yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hapablap:
Yeah totally. But I can't figure out what exactly it is that is making it happen, or how to remove it.

Also I don't care that much because it's weird and funny, and I need a fresh reinstall of something (a more recent build or switch to evervolv or whatever) to hold me over, so I'm not that inclined to actually fix it. It's like I have four or five lockscreens I can page throughm like the various desktops/homescreens if the phone were unlocked, and calculator is one of them, but it also gets mixed up with the clock one, and overall I can't figure out how to configure or fix any of it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
Thanks Tiny, as always. It would be great to get 20MB free on /system! :good:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hapablap:
So it turns out that long press allows me to delete the other lockscreen things including the calculator screwiness.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
Great ROM + GAPPS from April 2013

ORIGINAL REPLY by Kirk: Thanks Tiny, as always. It would be great to get 20MB free on /system! :good:

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Got a full 30MB of savings using your 2013-04-16 ROM, your 4-05 gapps file, and EXT4ALL v.2.0 (no data limit, normal dalvik cache version). Simply amazing! Thanks so much, Tiny & Co! :victory:

After that, I installed rooted Avast Anti-Theft through the Avast Mobile Security app's wizard, and it took about 3.5MB of the ROM, leaving 26.6MB according to Titanium Backup Pro overview report. So, if the app does as promised, I should be able to track it solely on GPS (which will automatically be turned on in the rooted version). We shall see... :fingers-crossed:

When I installed the ROM/gapps/EXT4ALL set, I first cleared the cache and dalvik cache, but did not do a factory reset or wipe the system (i.e. in ClockworkMod 5.x Recovery: mounts and storage --> format /system). Would doing either or both of these steps make any difference one way or the other?

One slightly sour note: TB Pro reports Internal Memory as 784MB as expected, but now my free memory has dropped by nearly half, from around 450MB to 257MB. Any reason for this? I don't see this as having a major impact, since I don't plan on installing many more apps and can control which apps are loaded using SystemPanel Lite, so 250MB or so of available memory after the basic UI is loaded ought to be fine. Still, you never know... Is there anything I can do to get back that "lost" 250MB of internal memory? :fingers-crossed:

Cheers! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
The no data limit mod is precisely the reason for this. It copies the files in /data/data to the /data partition and modifies the ramdisk to not mount the /data partition. That will only take up 150MB more though. It's a price to pay to not have to worry about filling up a tiny 150 MB app data partition.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
I need to understand better how EXT4ALL works?

Hmm... As far as I know, the only differences between my old and new setup on the same dinc hardware is:

1) your newer CM 10.1 ROM 2013-04-16 in place of the 10.1 ROM from 2013-03-15

2) your newer GAPPS file (4-05) in place of the older (3-07) one

2) vsn 2 of EXT4ALL in place of vsn 1, using the same flavour -- "no data limit + normal dalvik cache"

So wouldn't my dinc have ALREADY taken the 150MB internal memory hit in the old setup? Would the differences in the new setup account for yet *another* 200MB of internal memory being used, reducing free memory from ~450MB in my old setup to ~250MB now?

Would clearing caches, running "fix_datadata.v2.0.zip" or using some other flavour of EXT4ALL from your file set in dinc.does-it.net make any difference?

Is it possible my old setup was not running the EXT4ALL flavour I thought it was, which would account for the differnce? Whatever flavour it was, I NEVER got a "low memory" warning or any other warning or issue, once I installed it in my old setup. :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
None of the changes you made have any impact on storage. If you were never getting the warning and always had enough free space it's best to use the normal data so you have the maximum space for apps though the tradeoff is less space for app data. Your suggestions won't take care of it.

So here's the thing. The dinc has 750MB for /data and 150MB for /data/data. What was done in the no data limit mod was merge the /data/data into the /data so you have the 150MB of data copied over and as I said earlier, use the 750MB for both app and app data where it was split before.

Do du -sh /data/data in terminal and tell me how much it shows.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Internal memory in system>running is RAM not storage. Don't connect the two. I really don't have time to answer all these questions. I think you may have confused yourself a bit more.

Seems like you're trying to read into values a bit too much. The 240 in your last figure is your total free storage not memory. I try to avoid memory as it can confuse people whether its app or other storage or RAM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
Well, I'm pretty sure my confusion won't lead to anything serious, at least not at this stage.

If anyone else among the devs on this thread have time to explain, I will be happy to read and learn from you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Osiris19:
I'm not sure if I asked this before, or if this has been addressed yet, but is there anyway to get MMS auto-retrieve to actually work? This is really the only thing keeping me from running CM10.2 on my Inc. I hate having to turn data on everytime I get an MMS (Which I don't receive a notification for because you get the notification after it downloads).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Uzephi:
I am not an Android dev, but i have done enough PC building to shed some light on your confusion.

System settings: apps > running

That area showing free "space" is your actual RAM, not storage. 328+84=412MB of ram...

System settings: apps > all

That area shows the partition used for app data and it's free space... 511+237=748MB total internal memory

TBP: 748MB free, same number as above

that is same as sys settings: apps > all.

SP Lite: 133+96+33+53=315MB of RAM (I think you missed a number there cause it is almost exactly 100MB less than what system shows for RAM)

It shows ram like running apps...

Besides SP lite being screwy with your RAM, everything looks legit
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
CM 10.2.

TROLOLOL.

Still a bit to fix up before it's ready.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
I'm going to check github and repo sync :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
Thanks Uzephi!

SystemPanel Lite reports only used memory, so that 100MB is what was still available -- at least, I think so! :fingers-crossed:

You are right. Everything adds up, and the key is to distinguish RAM from space. That's easy in a PC b/c even virtual memory is clearly allocated. In Android, everything on "disk" seems capable of being either space OR memory. The key is the limits set up by the OS (ROM).

You have helped me take some more steps toward a more intuitive understanding.

Thanks again for taking the time! :)

Cheers!

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Hey, Uzephi -- do you have any idea why my free internal space should drop from 450MB to 250MB because I changed from one set of Tiny's 10.1 ROM and GAPPS to another set? :confused:

I did also change EXT4ALL from version 1 to version 2, but it was the same "flavour" (no data limit, normal dalvik cache)

If there is any way to get some or all of that precious 200MB back? :fingers-crossed

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Hi Tiny,

I'm noticing that since installing your 2013-04-16 ROM and 4-05 GAPPS (along with EXT4ALL v.2 of the "no data limit, normal dalvik" flavour) about 10 days ago, my dinc is spontaneously crashing and rebooting more often. :(

When I was using your 2013-03-15 ROM with a late 2012 GAPPS from your stable (plus EXT4ALL v.1 "no data limit, normal dalvik"), it would crash this way about twice a month (not counting when I used NavFree GPS, which crashed it nearly every time!). :laugh:

Since the changes made a few days ago, I have had about half a dozen crash/reboots. It looks like it is always when I have WiFi turned on, particularly when receiving signal from a hotspot-enabled laptop. It does not seem to matter what software is providing the hotspot (Intel My Wifi Dashboard, or a tiny software called MyRouter). Also, I do NOT leave WiFi on for long periods of time, just long enough to update apps via Play Store, read a little email, and sync my settings to the cloud. Typically, WiFi is on for 30 minutes at a time.

Can anything be done by me to tweak the settings to reduce the crash/reboot risk?

If I were to switch to another version of your ROM and/or GAPPS, which one(s) would you suggest?

NOTE: I need to keep a few MB free in the ROM for security programmes to utilise. Right now I have 26MB free; I could get by with about 10MB free after the initial setup of the ROM.

Thanks! :)

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Hard to believe the "ancient" 3-year-old DINC can swallow JB 4.3 / CM 10.2 -- :fingers-crossed: for :victory:

I guess the old DINC has inspired you once again, Tiny -- you did not seem very interested in pursuing this project even a couple of weeks ago.

I wonder what might happen to my internal storage and WiFi (in)stability with this leap into the unknown ... assuming I take it anytime soon! ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Uzephi:
I will use PC terminology: you have a 2TB HDD, you have 4 partitions, for math simplicity, they are all 500GB each. EXT4ALL will take two of those 500GB partitions.. C (system) and E partition and fool the system into seeing one big 1TB partition. Sometimes the code can be implemented wrong and the "hack" doesn't work right.

In short, reflash and try again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hapablap:
lol you gotta be kidding.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Anyone with data on 10.1, can you get me a full logcat of adb logcat -b radio, and for poops and giggles, a regular full logcat
[Droid Incredible Android Development] musical_chairs:
Aww whatever, might as well... Fresh install, booted up, (had to enable adb over network), toggled data, shut down. Had to zip the logcat as it was over the size limit for an attachment. Gotta quit playing with my phone now and get some work done...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] moondev:
AWESOME!!!!! You're the man!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I didn't do this on my own. I had help from an anonymous source.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Helix or neo :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
Great example + advice

Thanks for the example, Uzephi. That really helps me visualize what is going on (or what OUGHT to be going on, anyway). :D

As you say, the hack may not always take, which would explain sudden changes in calculated free internal space, up or down.

So a reflash might just work. I'm having another issue with Tiny's CM 10.1 mod ROM as I noted in my last post (crash/reboots are up, probably WiFi related), so that reflash or change to a differnt ROM is probably not far off. :fingers-crossed:

Thanks again! :)

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Hey Tiny, I know you must be busy with CM 10.2 mod for the DINC, among other projects.

So no surprise not to find a reply from you. :laugh:

Just in case you missed it...

Any advice about elevated crash/rebooting (seems WiFi related) in your 10.1 mod?

(2013-04-16 ROM, 4-05 GAPPS, EXT4ALL v.2 "no data limit, normal dalvik")

Any tweaks I could try?

What about a recommended upgrade path to newer ROMs and/or related files?

Cheers! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I think you should start by pulling a last_kmsg if it's doing a hard reset (incredible splash screen if you had a recent reboot. If it's a soft reboot a last_kmsg won't help.

The gapps have nothing to do with your reboots and probably not the ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I definitely need a last_kmsg if it's hard rebooting. The elevated rebooting you're receiving seems unique to you as I haven't seen other complaints about it.

How about this though to make sure you have a clean /system for gapps?

Wipe system, flash ROM, flash gapps, flash ext4all mod, then reboot. You may want to try wiping dalvik and cache prior to rebooting as well before or after flashing the ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] uconnpat:
best performance...

I have

Rom: cm10.1-20130708-tiny-inc installed

Gapps: gapps-jb-20130812-signed installed

I have not seen any memory issues: but there are lags from time to time

I'm wondering if I should flash any or some mods like adrenaline or ext4all...

If you have an opinion about this please share it and give some details as to the location of the newest and the correct file I need to be using...

Thank you
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
The lags are honestly due to hardware limitations. There is little that can be done to mitigate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zimlokks:
tiny is right, its fairly amazing to see the inc have jellybean. i do recommend flashing killjoy by exit_only here on xda. sorry dont have a link handy

Flowed Away From My Samsung E4GT!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AndroidSamurai:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44754182

That is the script that you want to use...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mh0520:
I had problems when I ran the killjoy script. It would boot but very soon after it would reboot. Hard reboots if I remember correctly.

I assume it's because I already ran the ext4 mod and swapped the emmc and SD card. I'm guessing one or both of these caused the problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zimlokks:
i can't really say but my inc is doing great running killjoy

Flowed Away From My Samsung E4GT!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] AndroidSamurai:
I have to agree with zimlokks here, have had trouble with some other scripts. Operation Killjoy™ has been a blessing to the RAM limited Inc...

Still have my S3 and love it, but VZW has a better signal when I'm out working in the mountains...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
Is there a way to capture screen shots...volume down and power is not working for me..running 5/16/13
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Power menu settings should have it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Yep. You just said the way to do it. You have to press and hold volume down and power at the same time. This is in aosp since jb or ICS.

Cm has a screenshot power menu option somewhere that might be easier.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
I think I have gotten use to using the power menu option in EV and haven't found it in this ROM ...but thanks for verifying
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
Killjoy + CM10.2

Hey Tiny,

What do you think of this new Killjoy tweak for your CM10.1 mod? Is it worth the bother to improve a dinc's performance?

Where does your CM10.2 mod stand? Are you still working on it? Has another dev taken it over?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I'm not going to be building CM10.2 but it doesn't mean it won't get built. The hold back on pushing CM10.2 is the data drops that seem to be a 4.3 issue on this device right now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
There is a branch in a bunch of repos on cm right now that may fix the data drops/data handoffs ... There is a new branch called qcril for the Qualcomm ril basically working on fixing the CDMA S3 data handoff problems

It may actually help the inc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tekweezle:
One of my Dincs on the 5-16 version lost its ability to play sounds and music. I tried reinstalling the rom, gapps and convert mod plus wiping dalvik and system but to no avail.

Any ideas what else I could try?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Not sure. The sound chip could have died. Can you try a different ROM, maybe go pack to pure stock to test?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tekweezle:
Funny thing is that this happened before you another of my Dincs. But I think think I fixed it by turning off the Quiet Hours setting.

I will try a few things and report back. Just weird - no ringtones or sound from games or media. The only thing installed was moboplayer. I have since uninstalled it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tekweezle:
Fixed it by resetting the theme. Strange but maybe helpful to others.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Osiris19:
I read that 4.4 will be designed to harbor a wider variety of devices, especially lower end devices with at least 512mb of ram. Could we see this on our inc in the future? I will most likely have this phone for another couple years until I can afford a new one, so I appreciate everything you've done for the community. With that said, I haven't run CM in awhile because I've opted for stability in the gingerbread form but using 4.3 on my nexus 7 for so long makes me want it on my phone again.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
It could happen. drewis has it booting on the Nexus One. It's not daily driver ready by any stretch of the imagination but it does boot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Osiris19:
That's still a good foothold. I like progress. It's amazing what these people including you do with these old phones.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mhejek:
Yea.some dev in htc sensations got it boot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmaellex01:
I just flashed this rom, after a wipe, and it seems great except my home button isn't working. I don't mind having to back out of apps, but is there a solution for this?

Thanks for all your help, everyone. I really appreciate it!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Did you install gapps ?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmaellex01:
Yeah... the link in OP post isn't working, so I installed gapps from.... http://goo.im/gapps (the 10.1 link). Also, the menu button also seems unresponsive. They generate haptic feedback but no other response. I also went into settings and tried to set custom actions for them, but to no avail...

Also, I'm not sure, but I *might* be getting some battery drain... *maybe*. It's still too early to really tell, and, chances are, I just ran through a bit of battery while derping around with settings, etc.

Thanks for your assistance, I didn't expect such a quick reply! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
That would be why, those gapps don't fit in the inc system partition so you need tinys small package .. Let me see if I can find it

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I can not seem to find them right now....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmaellex01:
Maybe there's a gapps link in another rom's thread... that would work?

Thanks for trying i really appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
I will check the desire threads

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http://www.mediafire.com/?xc72qxi2at79fy7
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmaellex01:
Thanks! I'll give it a try... my browser is telling me that the rar seems malicious, but.... We'll see I guess.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
They will be fine but I think you will need to data wipe
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
build instructions

/home/bin/repo: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'

/home/bin/repo: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE html>'

Getting this error whenever I try to pull sources" repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.1"
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Make sure you have the latest repo installed and have correct python version installed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
thanks Pons one more

" wget -O .repo/local_manifest/local_manifest.xml https://raw.github.com/tiny4579/android_device_htc_inc/cm-10.1/Manifest/local_manifest.xml"

Error

.repo/local_manifest/local_manifest.xml: No such file or directory
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Edit .repo/local_manifest/local_manifest.XML to .repo/local_manifest.xml
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
It should be in .repo/local_manifests not .repo/local_manifest. That would be the problem. .repo/local_manifest doesn't exist so it can't create the file there.

What you are suggesting won't end pulling my local stuff.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
What I suggested is what I do when I sync everything for my devices (d2, inc etc) it works for sure, the d2 build I did today uses the same .repo/local_manifest.xml format and it pulls my kernel repo etc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Ok, you are right there. It's still better to put it in .repo/local_manifests and you can actually name the xml files you want and it will process all of them.

The older repo tool only supports the one file but they've added support and have recommended migration to xml files in .repo/local_manifests. There's a reason the instructions have that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
I agree 100%, it is better to put it in the .repo/local_manifests folder, but until you sync once it is not there if I remember right
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
You can always create it manually if needed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
I hope you guys know youre talking French....just saying
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Trolololololololol, you will catch on. Tiny can tell you that I was the same way when I started; I was asking for help from him all the time
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
Well this has been a busy thread today! Someone front to build 10 eh?

Sent from my HTC One Max
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
Thanks I needed that... When it comes to the local_manifests should it be in the cm10 folder or same folder as the build or can it be anywhere as long as the tree device syncs

for example I have /android/cm but the local_manifests.xml was in /root folder and it doesnt pull revert
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
It needs to be in your build folder , so android/cm/.repo/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
So Thats whY!!!!!! ok thanks :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

"From http://review.cyanogenmod.org/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_native

* branch refs/changes/05/33305/1 -> FETCH_HEAD

error: 'cherry-pick' is not possible because you have unmerged files.

hint: Fix them up in the work tree,

hint: and then use 'git add/rm <file>' as

hint: appropriate to mark resolution and make a commit,

hint: or use 'git commit -a'.

fatal: cherry-pick failed"
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Local_manifest probably needs to be updated to use the 4.2 jellybean evervolv branches instead of the 4.3 branches .. I will check 1 sec
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
For 4.2 the evervolv revisions should just be set to jellybean, so you will have to fix that cherry pick every time your self for fork the evervolv fw/native and push the fix once then just your forked repo
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
So can you point me to a guide or offer some advice to get started.Source is downloaded and I was just going through and following the instructions on the https://github.com/tiny4579/android_device_htc_inc/blob/cm-10.1/README.md

and just following instruction listed under cherrypicks/reverts....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
First I would install the text editor of your choice then setup a github account and setup git locally on your computer