yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
A reboot doesn't do anything for me, I'm on Virgin Mobile.

I'll give it a try. Thank you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
Welcome :)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bobwonderful:
Has anyone moved to another Service like Ting with PACman and was able to reactivate without going back to the original Touchwiz ROM? I can't seem to get my phone activated. Also Sprint System updates never worked before.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jwhyte:
I'm going to say no but correct me if I'm wrong. I'm on us cellular and I have to flash a stock rooted to update prl then I just restore custom ROM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FuMMoD:
You cannot flash a prl on the Samsung epic4g touch sphd710 if it's on Aosp. Flash a tw rom and updating your prl then flash back to your aosp rom. I'm flashed on metro pcs by the way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
This is false. There is a guide in general by [MENTION=2200684]freakb18c1[/MENTION] describing how to do exactly this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FuMMoD:
Does not work all the time and last time I checked it's only on a specific Rom. I tried it out ave couldn't emulate it through properly even though it was set up. It could be since I'm not on Sprint but the work around takes a lot more time and effort than flashing separate nandroid backups.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Soured Lie:
Aw man. I wish this would work for me. Boost :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
I feel your pain, I'm on Virgin Mobile:(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
YouMail should work on any carrier. What issues are you having?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Soured Lie:
Youmail says on their play page that they don't support subsidiary non contract carriers, and it's not working for me. It won't retrieve messages, or divert them to be answered and forwarded by and to youmail. The fix is to buy their "gold account messaging service" or whatever, or have callers log their 10digit number in to leave a message and all this convoluted BS.

Skiiiiiip.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
I can confirm YouMail does not work on Virgin Mobile as well. When I went to put in the activation code it gives me an error. Back to calling my Voicemail daily.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FuMMoD:
That's strange I have youmail running perfect on all my roms and I've been flashed on metro pcs for almost a year now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
In the app description for Youmail it says metropcs and cricket work sometimes but other prepaid company's do not. Does metropcs support call forwarding?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
You guys should try Google Voice...its free, works better than any stock VVM ive tried (VZW, Sprint, Tmo), offers transcription either to email, sms, in-app, or any combination of the three.

You can either set up your own Google Voice number and have your cell ring when that number is dialed, or you can use only the voicemail service.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] twrex82:
I can confirm Google voice OK cricket. Not the best at transcribing but will play back VM through voice app

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Krowbarr:
Anyone running the newest nightly? Wondering if data is working yet. Thanks.

☞Owner/Operator Samsung E4GT running Dirty Unicorns 4.3.1 Powered by Blasphemy!

We were born in a time where if something was broken we would fix it and not just throw it away
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
I haven't tried it but my guess is it's still borked.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Krowbarr:
Flashed the newest nightly and data is still borked. 3G works at boot but if you switch to Wi-Fi and then go back to 3G it's a no go. Doesn't reconnect. Also if you try flashing a custom kernel it boot loops. The data issue really should be fixed by now. Disappointed?

☞Owner/Operator Samsung E4GT running Dirty Unicorns 4.3.1 Powered by Blasphemy!

We were born in a time where if something was broken we would fix it and not just throw it away
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
Did you try rebooting after switching back to 3G to see if data came back?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Krowbarr:
Yes, after a reboot it will come back only if Wi-Fi is turned off.

Sent From My Nexus 7 2013/Pacman Rom/faux mainline kernel 006 r2!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
Data is fixed on hood pope (@dastin1015's 4.3 cm10). My guess is that the build bot is pulling from the official cm repos, which does not have those fixes merged.

You could probably build it yourself with team_hydra repos and data should work fine

Sent from my T999L on PAC-man
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
That's great to know, thanks. :)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bobwonderful:
Question about recovery kernel.

I've noticed that many of the ROMS include a recovery kernel built into it. I had been trying to install the latest CWM recovery but haven't found it anywhere. Luckily, PACman has 6.0.3 in it and I had a back up nandroid of it so when I try and test other ROMs I can at least go back and reinstall this one which works the best for me. However, if I wanted to install 6.0.4.4, I haven't been able to find a tar version which I can install with ODIN for the desktop. I have not tried ODIN for Mobile yet but may as I do know there is an image file out there.

Another question is the kernel in Pac is 3.0.64 - CM-g84c11ba .. what is that?

Thanks and sorry for the newbie question.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jwhyte:
That is just the stock cm kernel. With the e4gt recovery is but into the ROM/kernel. When you flash a new ROM you get the recovery that comes with it. The only recovery you can change to is twrp and that's a flash able zip as well so when you flash from that you get what's included in new ROM. This is unlike most other devices that you can have a recovery that us sperate from ROM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omnicubed:
Is anyone else suffering from a serious battery issue on 4.3. My phone would get faint and start flickering and then shut down. And if I booted it back up, it would have zero charge. Yet, I'm fine on 4.2.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t0mmyr:
thats a dieing battery
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omnicubed:
Thanks. You were right. Ordered a new one. I was also having trouble taking screenshots. I found a solution: I had to create the /Pictures/Screenshots directory. Just putting it out there in case any one else is having trouble taking screenshots.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
Are you on Pac 4.3?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omnicubed:
I am. But, don't worry. It happens on 4.2 now. So it's the battery. It was probably just a coincidence that it hadn't.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Darrien13:
What is the most stable version of this ROM I don't care if its 4.2 as long as it has HALO
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
Stability is different for everyone... Depends on usage, coverage area, minute hardware variations, etc.

But 7/24 is the last 4.2 nightly. Anything after that is 4.3.

Sent from my T999L on PAC-man
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FuMMoD:
Replace your battery, that's the issue.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omnicubed:
We are agreed. The issue is the battery and not the ROM. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
I hope we get an update to 4.3 :/

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joe ferreira:
I installed the latest nightly and it is 4.3.1.

I got fc's for acore and had to clear contact storage,

also got fc's for android aosp keyboard so I figured out I needed to update gapps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
Does data work on it?

Edit: I just realized you're on AT&T and can't answer that question. :( Are you aware that you posted in a Sprint (E4GT) thread?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Krowbarr:
Let me save everyone the trouble of downloading the 10/31 nightly. Data does not work, in fact Wi-Fi doesn't connect either standing two feet from my router. I'm going back to 4.2.2. I've been on Dirty Unicorns but camera video doesn't work there. I give up for now:(

Sent From My Nexus 7 2013/Pacman Rom/faux mainline kernel 006 r2!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
I guess it's time to find a new comparable AOSP ROM, if one even exists. Well PAC, it was nice while it lasted. :(

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jwhyte:
What's wrong with 4.2.2? I've tried a couple 4.3 but can't beat the stability of 4.2.2!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omnicubed:
I'm on the latest 4.3. I can't test data but WiFi is working. All of the recent builds have been fairly stable for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] FuMMoD:
Yeah 4.3 isn't worth the headaches. Having stable 4.2.2 is good enough, just update gapps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sjsharksfan420:
Seems like my ET4G does not like 4.3.X ROMs at all, I was able to get a 4.3.1 rom to boot before, but after reboot, no matter what, won't boot past the splash screen.. Tried many times.. Gotta stay on 4.2.2 for now on my ET I guess ..

sj
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eigokyoukan:
Have you guys tried revolt? I've been using his 4.3 alpha as my daily driver for over a week now and its running fantastic. I get the odd hang up maybe every other day that requires battery pull, but is small annoyance compared to the speed and batter life his build has gotten me :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sjsharksfan420:
Yes, I've tried all the options out there, revolt was the one I got to actually boot, but if I do a reboot, it hangs.. I'm stumped on it.. I've done everything I can think of, including flashing stock JB TW to repartition for JB.. I've tried by clean flashing from a 4.2.2 AoSP, dirty flashing as an update (since I have nandroids of 4.2.2 for both ReVolt as well as PACman too.. I have always used the EL26 CWR that has always been the safe kernel for flashing on this device.

sj
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jwhyte:
Cm10.2 you had to boot then reboot recovery factory reset then reboot.

I'm on uscc so can't verify because I get non stop phone fc on any 4.3 but that's been the talk.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] steveokinevo:
my home button isnt working. like it has no action assigned to it. how can i fix that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
Maybe reflash the ROM? If I were you, I'd nandroid and flash a different ROM to make sure it's not a hardware issue.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omnicubed:
Did you flash the Blasphemy kernel? There's a fix somewhere in that thread. I'd link it but I'm on mobile
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
Hold power button till phone resets, should boot right up.

Works for me everytime.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btoddweber:
7/19 latest stable 4.2.2?

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Krowbarr:
Yes sir.

☞Owner/Operator Samsung E4GT running Dirty Unicorns 4.3.1 Powered by Blasphemy!

We were born in a time where if something was broken we would fix it and not just throw it away
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
I flashed the 7/24 nightly and it's running well. Is this not as stable as 7/19? Btw, I sent you a pm the other day Knowbarr.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
Back in PAC!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btoddweber:
Nice..check pm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btoddweber:
Flashed 7/19 and can send/receive texts..can call...have data..can send MMS...cannot receive MMS??

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
Turn off auto download, just clock the download button when somebody sends you an mms

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bobwonderful:
PAC 4.22 vs 4.3x info.

Just for your reference. All PAC 4.3x versions do not support 4G Wimax so you will be limited to 3G. There are benefits as to going to 4.3x as it will probably give you longer battery life, and if you don't care about 4G Wimax, it will probably be a good move to upgrade.

However if you are in an area where 4G Wimax coverage is good you'll probably want to stay with the PAC 4.22 version.

I've tried the 4.3x versions and they do take advantage of some of the new features, but I decided to stay with 4.22. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before trying 4.3x and do a clean install.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
Does that mean that data is finally working?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
Still erratic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
What's the latest 4.3 Pac rom or are all the nightly's 4.3?

Edit: Nevermind, I found the answer to my question in the logs. Who has data working 100% and what build are you on?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
It works perfectly on all the builds prior to 4.3, which started their release in November, so 7/19 was the last 4.2.2 build.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ravaged Pheonix:
Anyone else having trouble getting the battery icon to stick? Every time I change it, it reverts back to the stock icon after a few seconds. The only ones I can get to stick are stock and stock with centered text.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MicrosoftBug:
Mine is working fine but I'm on 4.2.2. What version are you running?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TJj33p3rz:
I know I'm getting old and can't see but how do I turn off halo? I must be over looking it thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jwhyte:
You can double click it and drag to top of screen to get rid of it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Aairman23:
center button = blank home screen?

For some reason I can't figure out. All versions of PAC have this glitch where I hit the center button and it takes me to a blank home screen, and I have to hit the app drawer then the center button again to get my app icons and widgets to show up. I tried messing with settings and searching this forum with certain keywords, but can't find a fix, or a reason for this behavior. Any ideas or remedies for this problem?

I briefly went to CM11 ROM and this problem was gone, but I like PAC too much and really want this issue to stop, cause the extra required button presses are really irritating me now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DynamicN:
That's in the launcher settings and has nothing to do with the ROM. When you press the home button on the home screen it brings up all your screens in one which is why your widgets and icons look like they disappear. Look in the launcher settings, there should be something that says home menu button press with options.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Aairman23:
I can't find this setting, and I'm not convinced this is really what is going on.

When I'm in an app and I press the center button to take me to the home screen, while 2 out of 5 times, it takes me to the home screen fine, the other times it brings me to a blank screen where I can only see the wallpaper. I can swipe left and right and the blank pages move left or right, but no apps or widgets appear on any of the pages. Then if I go into the app drawer and hit the center button again, the home screen appears as normal with all the app icons and widget visible. Like I said, this has been happening to me regardless all through the various updates, and goes away when I install a new ROM and comes back when I go back to PAC, even after data wipe.

-Aaron
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Surj138:
What do you mean by "center button"? Do you even have this device (SPH-D710 aka Epic 4g Touch)?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CyberpodS2:
Nah, but he found the correct forum... LOL

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49647585&postcount=1015
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
I have a quick question.

Last weekend, i flashed Slimbean JB 4.3 and I get no data.

From that ROM, what do I need to do?

Do I need to flash to FL24 first or can I just go straight to the usual wipe then flash?

THanks in advance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
If you already have an ICS modem then you can go straight to flashing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
How are the 4.3 nightlies doing? I can't find solid info. I'd prefer 4.3 but Carbon has disappeared and this ROM seems to be the other option. I'd prefer 4.3 to 4.2.2 if possible.

This article http://www.xda-developers.com/android/4-3-based-pac-man-nightlies-coming-to-a-device-near-you/ points directly to this thread.

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
I install 4.3 nightly last night and played with it a bit, i run it for a few days every now and then. its prity good. dont use any other kernel then what comes with it though they arent compatable with PAC 4.3 unfortuanly.

no clue on when they will be trying to bring 4.4 over or even if they will. i see 4.4 for other phones but not this one yet :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
I have the 1/28 nightly installed and I get no data.

Is anyone else having this issue?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
hmm, i didn't have that issue

what i did was

1. DLed blasphemy 6.6 4.3 kernel here

2. flash that kernel then go to advanced "reboot recovery"

3. formatted everything twice

4. installed rom/gapps

and everything came up fine

im also running FL26 module
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
I keep getting a notification that a new build is available but the link is dead whether I attempt to access it via my phone or laptop.

http://pacman.basketbuild.com/download.php?file=main/d710/nightly/pac_d710-nightly-20140209.zip

Am I missing something here?

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Is there a particular nightly build that is working well for everyone? I'm having a lot of Exchange FC with a message that someone is to blame.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
no clue man .. i only see the last 1/28 nightly. Im curretly using Mokee or Vanir , sence unfortunaly, it looks like PAC stoped working on our phone... :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
We had problems with moving servers but nightlies should be working sometime soon. I'll see if I can find some free time with a tester to fix up the rom since my e4gt isn't activated any more.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
Flash the kernel in recovery before flashing the ROM? Mobile Odin doesn't see the kernel file.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
Mobile Odin doesn't recognize zip files. Only in .tar format.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Everything you are describing doing, can be done from recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DanHakimi:
How is this rom on the daily driver scale? I'm having an issue with my old rom (I think it was the last build of WFTN), and I'm looking for something stable to replace it with...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] beezie42:
I use the 4.3 1/28 nightly. I feel it's great for a daily driver. I have had zero freezes or SOD. Well one but that was from a bad overclock haha.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
Well I've been getting some regular Exchange crashes but it may be another issue since I don't even get data with this build.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] beezie42:
Interesting. My data pops right on. Even switch between WiFi and 3g fine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
I now have FL24 installed. I may have had the wrong modem. Do I follow the usual instructions for flashing? Wipe, then ROM, then gapps? What about the kernel? I have blasphemy and am happy with it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Surj138:
Is there an md5 checksum or am I missing something? I'd love to get back on this ROM :thumbup:

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Great news! http://www.pac-rom.com/#Home :cool:

Hopefully [MENTION=4467521]sniper[/MENTION] or [MENTION=4878501]ktempleton[/MENTION] haven't forgotten about this rom and we'll be supported!;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
I hope we will be.. I love this rom!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
Hey sniper. You still planing on taking this ROM back on!!! You know you want too!!! Smexie bish you are!!! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
2 hours till 4.4.2!! .. hope the d710 build dosnt fail ...... and boots would be a good plus :p

http://www.pac-rom.com/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
8 minutes!

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Its on!:D:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] htrowpiks:
I'm looking but I'm not seeing it anywhere? The timer is at 0....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
Probably building / uploading.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Build is up! Showing stable...about to test.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
same as soon at it downloads
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Yea, me too. I got so desperate this morning I stopped at McD's to jump on their WiFi on my way to work...lol:sly:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
lol +1

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what gapps you using?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
[MENTION=2478576]Tsjoklat[/MENTION] made some gapps I use from the tab2 7in thread. I use it on my tab and been liking it on the epic also. DL done! Be back shortly with good news I hope:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
same .. flashing now

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im using most resent gapps

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ok .. the no splash screen worried me..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
No data guys:( gonna try jb modem...

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Well, the recovery that comes with it is one that won't allow modem flashes(6.0.4.7). Gotta get to work...so I'll have to try the jb modem later. I have a feeling its not going to work tho. Same prob with du4.4, I think it has something to do with the new smdk4412 kernel...dastin said something about it breaking telephony for this device. Soo...until that issue gets squared away, I think this is where we are...good luck. Be back later.:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
telephony isn't working eather

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omg the options in this thing ... to bad there this modem issue ... *****
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Like du...both awesome
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] htrowpiks:
I grabbed this, edited it for uscc and had no signal. Also baseband was unknown. Tried flashing ics modem still no luck.. Thought I messed it up.... Guess I was wrong twice....lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
ya im on USCC also.

played with it alittle last night even though theres no connection to moble. rom looks sweet and was running snappy as hell.. tones of options/ tweaks to toggle under pac pellets.

realy realy sux that the base isnt seen ... almost want to make you cry :crying::eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
so just for the hell of it .. i tried flashing the extram kernel from the mokee thread ... no boot ... figured it was worth a shot though
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mp3deviant721:
So I'm not the only one who doesn't have a boot animation? Is this build supposed to have one?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
No clue to be honest.. I would suspect so.. There's a new nightly I'm going to flash in a bit hope telephony works
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
I had no splash screen either, but if you wait long enough, it will boot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] htrowpiks:
I didn't have a boot animation either.

Has anyone else running art have problems with Pandora? I am running a hacked Pandora (no ads/ unlimited skips) and art didn't like it so I'm back on davlik again...

MokeeOS 4.4.2 US Cellular

crossbreeder
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
So just tried the latest 3/4/14, with ics and jb modem, sum no data or telephone and still no splash screen
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
It has a boot ani...just reboot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
Anyone try the 3/5 nightly yet? Data? I am downloading now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
I tried it this morning.. Still no signal
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
Confirmed lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
Anyone check out the 3/6 nightly or should I wait for the next to test?