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[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
:good:

Just wanted to say a big THANKS again to Pons, Tiny, Albinoman, Zach, and I'm sure a host of others. Gave me the extended life out of my first smart phone and the fun of playing with different Rom's, that I could of never of gotten from stock software.

I got tired of waiting on VZ to sell the HTC One, and I was long overdue for a tweak to my wireless plan anyway, so I decided, after some research to give ATT a shot. I hope I don't regret it, but so far, things seem to be going well with them. The phone, oh man, I absolutely love this thing, it is so fast, in everything I do. It's amazing the processor speed compared to my Dinc, and the screen is just smoking beautiful. I'll probably wipe my Dinc one more time, and just use it as a mp3 player or something..

Maybe I'll see some of you guys over in the Htc One threads, I'm thinking that's what Tiny got, not sure. Peace out my brothers!!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Yep. I have an HTC One on ATT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Did you try out 10.2 yet? It runs pretty good for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
It works for me okay aside from the Bluetooth and wakeup lag issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
We have some weird camera driver issues but other than that its OK, basically we can't use any camera app other than the stock one not even focal without having to reboot afterwards
[Droid Incredible Android Development] moondev:
another app replacement suggestion: Textra is very similar to the cyanogen sms app, and includes all of the new ios6 emojis. It does group messaging fine too. Very lightweight and snappy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] vwpiper:
Thank you Tiny for extending the life of my DInc. You and the other devs have done an amazing job. It has been fun seeing how far this little guy could make it in Android.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] musical_chairs:
Maybe if both you guys ditch inc development completely it will force me to finally learn how to build ROMs. I know I could, I know I'd enjoy it, but there are only so many things you can do and still enjoy actually living. I'm on a bargain-basement-budget prepaid plan (got a family to support), so no carrier-subsidized phone for me, the dinc is gonna be my phone for a good while to come. I might learn to dev yet...

I've been running Evervolv's nightlies for a few weeks, it's a pretty good ROM and their new updater is quite cool. The inc is still on 4.2, they'll probably get 4.3 on it eventually, but who knows. Also, their ROM seems to have issues downloading stuff from the play store, or maybe that's just from me dirty-flashing back and forth between EV and CM10.1.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
I'm not ditching completely :p I've been working on fixing lots of stuff on 10.2 with the entire line of d2s
[Droid Incredible Android Development] musical_chairs:
Great, then I can keep being lazy. :cool:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Not even a $50 phone? There should be smartphones much better than the DInc that are fairly affordable. If the Inc got 4.3, who knows how well it'd run. From a framework perspective, I don't think it's a big upgrade but I think Google fixed a lot of performance sinks. Performance on the Galaxy Nexus is much improved in 4.3 IMO. Also, with 4.3, I don't know how well it'd interact with a kernel that doesn't have SELinux support.

I don't honestly know how people are still latching onto the Inc thinking there's no need for an upgrade. In your case it's about cost which is understandable but I can hardly stand the Inc now that I have and use the new Nexus 7 and HTC One.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tydiamond11:
Yeah i had to upgrade to at the lest a droid razr lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] musical_chairs:
Sure, I could drop $50 on a phone without making the kids go hungry, it's more a matter of priorities. Or maybe I'm just weird. I was using a Motorola E815 (hacked to run J2ME apps) long after the rest of the world had forgotten what a pull-up antenna was, and the Inc is kind of the same deal. It's very hackable, it was still actively being hacked when I got it, and it used to be one of the best phones out there. I guess I do tend to hang on to my phones too long...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tekweezle:
the Droid Incredible still runs well with all the mods and fixes. The 2am reboot issue and the low space issue were definitely show stoppers that would have caused me to junk the phone prematurely. Actually runs better today on 4.22 Jellybean than when I first got it over 2 1/2 years ago running 2.2 Froyo. battery life is pretty good too

I can afford a new phone but since I am on 3G only Pageplus Cellular, getting non 3g phones working on their service is an inexact science. and what to do with my perfectly working phones? my drawer of discard tech items is already overflowing.

so this is a testament to your efforts that people are still using the Dinc. your work has breathed new life into this device. I have since moved to evervolv(which is working well) on one of my Dincs but I appreciate all your efforts.

funny thing is that people still come up to me and ask me about the Dinc because of the 3.7 inch screen is unique. to them it;s like it;s a new phone It;s smaller and more compact than an iPhone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mh0520:
Does anyone know if the inc supports fstrim? I tried to use Lagfix and it gave me an error saying that the memory doesn't support it but I use the ext4 mods and mount my emmc as an SD card. So, I want sure if any of that might be affecting it.

I'm assuming it just doesn't work on the inc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Its all the same memory chip so emmc is no different from the original data partition. I don't remember the details but fstrim is purposely disabled if the kernel and/or hardware don't support it. I'm pretty sure the inc doesn't because of the kernel and maybe hardware.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TheBr0ken:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION], not sure if you or anybody else is working on cm-10.2, but just some fyi. You may already know this, but im gonna say it anyway. With the changes to cm's build directory, toolchains now default to 4.7. This has been causing all kinds of issues with legacy devices. If you or anybody is having a no boot issue and your 100% sure your mount points are accurate. You may need to force compile with gcc-4.6 toolchain. 4.6 and 4.7 are both in prebuilts
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
And if the 4.6 chain that is pulled during a repo sync of CM-10.2 has issues, pull the 4.6 version that gets synced with 10.1
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Actually Google changed the build system in AOSP not cm, and I already had this ROM building with linaro 4.7. I don't think this change will cause an issue. I'm waiting for evervolv to be ready first and I may or may not do a build. Its a lot of work to build for just the 15 people that frequent the cm forums on a three year device.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] musical_chairs:
But we're such special, awesome people, how can you resist? :angel: No, I fully understand, you don't owe me anything that's for sure. But if you do choose to do another build, you'll have at least one user...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Div033:
Hey I kept my Dinc and I'm probably gonna go back to it soon for a while as I try to sell my GS3 to subsidize the price of a new off-contract phone. Gotta do it soon before it loses too much value. Been eyeing the G2!

I'm very impressed how well you've kept this device relevant tiny. You have my thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Shano56:
I don't want to sound like I'm telling you guys what to do, but I recommend you all get a new phone. The DINC was great years ago, but if you think 4.2 runs perfect and smooth on the DINC, you've must never have tried a device with an OMAP4460 or newer - even the galaxy nexus is 2x faster than the DINC. Seriously guys, go out and buy a N4, GS4, HTC One, etc. You won't regret it. save your dinc for an mp3 player or an emergency device (or get off ****ty VZ and switch to unlocked gsm and save a bunch of $$ ;) ) I had a great run on my DINC thanks to tiny, pons, evervolv, etc, but you gotta move on eventually.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] plexiglas81:
Down to 14 now! Even though I got something new, I'll be happy to use my dinc for any 10.2 testing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tekweezle:
Cellphones are alot like PC's. If you don;t have anything different to do on them than several years ago, there isnt; alot of motivation to upgrade. what I need is a paradigm shift where some killer application causes you to want to upgrade to something newer and better. you can have this newest, ultrafast, big screen, bigger battery, more memory device but without apps that take advantage of it, seems almost a waste to be a manufacturer's beta tester.

I mean my phone basically works well as a phone communication device. i can make calls, text plus amuse myself by watching videos and listening to music and streaming tv from a slingbox. i can still play alot of the mobile games I was playing already and I haven;t seen a new "angry birds" like killer game that I want to play while I am waiting for the subway.

I wouldn;t try to discourage people from going to something newer and better though. it;s a personal choice. who knows, I might even go back to a flip phone for making calls down the road because I have a mifi and tablet to get onto the internet.

As for my Dinc, running Evervolv I am seeing it have up to 200 mb free out of 431 mb total at times. i believe that takes care of the sluggishness most of the time. even with 150 mb consumed by that awful Facebook app(it loads 3 instances of 50 mb each!) I still manage to have 50 mb available. i even went back to the slim 1300 mah battery and still get close to 20 hours or more of standby usage. maybe this is more related to what I don;t do on the phone than anything I am doing.

Again, thanks again for all the hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nathansnyder:
Yeah, come Christmas (or a little after) I plan to be moving on. I'm too cheap to cough up money for a data plan though, so I'll probably be buying a year old phone like the N4 or the One S/X when I find a good price for a good condition phone on Ebay. I'm still updating this one every chance I get, but I'm not going to ask about future releases, especially bumps like CM10.2. Honestly, CM10.1 runs better than I ever could have expected it to, and I know I, along with everyone else here, really appreciate all the time Tiny, Pons, Albinoman, and Evervolv have put into this phone. I expected to stop getting updates over a year ago, but I know it's pretty much the end of the line.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] moondev:
Try friendcaster!! So much better than the stock fb and less of a resource hog
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NYC Coyote:
And I'll move on from VZ when there is better service in the New York Metro / Long Island area.. as that's where I spend the majority of my time....

And when I can get unlimited data plus 400 minutes a month for 55 bucks. Yep.. A corporate discount from a company I haven't worked at in 9 years.

So next phone is being paid for in full.. no subsidy. Which when you pay what I do.. makes sense. Just waiting for something that I want (which wasn't the GS4)... so I am stuck waiting for at least a few new phones.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zedmk2:
Soooo I did move on from my dinc, got a razr maxx, and went into the pool with it this past weekend. Needless to say, I'm heartbroken.

However... coming back to this forum and seeing that work was being still done as far as dev. Wow! A huge thanks to you guys, tiny, et al (as has been echoed these past few pages). My dinc isn't nearly as powerful as my max, but having it on jb instead of cucpcake/eclair with sense or whatever is a huge boost.

I'm going to have to buy my next phone out of contact. (Verizon, like some of you are dealing with). So it's nice to have a viable option with the inc as I save up money for that...

Thanks again!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nathansnyder:
I'd encourage you to check out Klyph. It's definitely the best alternative to Facebook I've yet seen, though the pro version will cost you two bucks. It's super slick. The only thing that could hold you back, is that Facebook doesn't allow 3rd party applications to post to groups. But that's a minor inconvenience, and not Klyph's fault.

Anyways, back to the thread. (Sorry for going down this rabbit trail!)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tydiamond11:
I think the dinc is still the most supported device in history lol I think some one should keep it going just for you fun to say this old thing is running the newest Android! LOL but not that u have to.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Evervolv merged in 4.3 so if tiny doesn't want to do it any more which I don't blame him being that he was here so long I will do a little cm for the inc

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Specifically for qsd8k bravo and speedy already have nightly builds of evervolv
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NYC Coyote:
Please do! I need a few more months out of it! Hoping some under the hood changes speed the little baby up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Yup I will, I think 4.3 had some improvements and has trim so that may actually help the inc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tydiamond11:
Well thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
[MENTION=3500210]tiny4579[/MENTION] any plans to add Trickster MOD Kernel Backup support to your kernels, and/or submit it up to Evervolv's kernel gerrit?

Trickster MOD Kernel Backup File List
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Are you sure about it? No changes were made for inc for 4.3 yet. Though some general qsd8k commits were merged in the 4.3 branch.

If it's ready, go for it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
I don't think the inc was yet but I also don't think that it will be to hard, bravo and speedy have 4.3 EV nightlys and speedy is very similar

I mean supersonic is similar and so is bravo

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How do you make a gapps package
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I don't really make one. I take an existing one and tweak it by removing files that aren't needed to make the package smaller and use less space. I have swapped out files sometimes with later versions but mostly I remove or add. Then if I add or remove files, I edit system/etc/addon.d/70-gapps.sh to edit the list of gapps to backup to exclude files I don't want to be backed up from being restored after an update or to add files that I want included in the restore process.

For a frame of reference, compare my gapps package from the goo.im one for an idea on what isn't essential on the inc.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
Alright thank you. Just a tip for your one there are 2 cherry picks on the gerrit right now for a developer options toggle to enable nav bar
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I know about that. I haven't bothered because soft keys on a device with keys just doesn't feel right. There seems to be one person driven to use it (David van Tonder). I've heard it works fine tho.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
I remember you said that you wanted to enable it because the one doesn't have a menu key. In my builds I pulled those picks but don't use them
[Droid Incredible Android Development] srinia:
Thank you

I recently started using this ROM and it has renewed and extended my Dinc.. My thanks to Tiny, Pons and others who made this possible here at xda.

I need some suggestions on what might be a good upgrade from this. I am looking for some thing that has good developer support (comparable to what dinc has) and that is a generation are two behind (inexpensive to buy and use as prepaid phone on VZ network. I use pageplus).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] zachf714:
S3 isn't to bad on craigslist and neither is the S4 at this point lol (Beanstown bricked his and many others did as well on the newest ota just updating radios)

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Oh neither is the RAZR HD or RAZR maxx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] danrodz:
I upgraded to a galaxy nexus (use my dinc as a mp3 player and GPS) and have no regrets. I'm on 4.3 already, the Dev support is awesome (there are so many roms and kernels that its a headache to pick one) and the device itself flies!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hfl12:
i always stop here once a week to check for rom update but rarely login.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
I have a gnex kernel by the way. Not sure why you upgraded to the gnex at this stage in the game unless you got it cheap off contract or free. Its a rather mediocre phone now (but awesome compared to the dinc.)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] srinia:
Thanks for the suggestion. Will look around for an old Galaxy nexus.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] danrodz:
I got the gnex for cheap in January, I had trashed the screen on my dinc and needed a cheap replacement. Its served me well though, I'm not the type who needs the latest and greatest, just a serviceable machine to get me on the web/email/chat and the occasional angry birds. I eventually got cheap parts to fix up the dinc and I use the dinc as a mp3 player, a GPS tracker with mytracks and with navfree I can use it as a GPS nav without a data plan. Plus on WiFi i can run netflix and hand it to the kids. Not bad for an ancient device!

Got to check out your kernel, been a fan of your work for a long time. Thanks for all the hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] musical_chairs:
That's exactly what I need - LOL. Looks like I could pick up a Sprint GNex for about what I spent on my Inc a year and a half ago. It also looks like activating a GNex on Page Plus would be a pretty interesting hack - but then I like interesting hacks, it wouldn't be the first time I dug pretty deep into VZW/PP programming and provisioning...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NYC Coyote:
Here's a new one.. as of today.... the phone isn't showing up in the Google Play Store (on the web) and I can't find it in Device Manager (on the web).. everything works on the phone.

It's as if the ROM isn't reporting itself correctly to the store. An old ROM still shows up.. but obviously won't connect to the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Doesnt sound ROM related, rather general Android/Google play related.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lukkypuggy:
Try going into TB and restore previous android ID, seemed to work for me when I had that problem
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NYC Coyote:
Nope.. didn't work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Any luck?

For those hoping for a CM update, I can let you know I've tried to get a build of CM10.2 going but it seems trickier than CM10.1 was to get rolling.

Don't get your hopes that Tiny is going to start rolling out builds. If it does happen, they'll be rare.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ChemicalSymphony:
If you get it working, cool. If not, cool. You've more than doubled my expectations for the life of this phone already and for that I thank you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Neo:
I'm jumping in on Monday to try and get it working if Tiny doesn't already have it solved by then.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NYC Coyote:
Nope.. even generated a new one and still nada.

The phone works.. I can download from the store ON THE PHONE ITSELF... just not on a web browser on a computer. And google's mobile device manager obviously wont' work because it doesn't register the phone in the system (although everything in the phone is set to work)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kirkers:
System ROM limits + rooted Lost/Stolen tracking apps

Hi Tiny, and all the rest of you on this thread!

I've been happily using Tiny's 2013-03-15 ROM (CM 10.1) on my dinc for months. It's all been really good ... :victory: ... until now.

I've discovered that I can't get any lost/stolen tracking apps (Avast Anti-Theft, Cerberus) to turn on my dinc's GPS (which I leave off to save battery life) in order to find its location. (I also don't do OTA data with my PagePlus provider, so that is not an option to my reliance on GPS.) :(

According to Avast and Cerberus, the way to get GPS to turn on reliably is to use the "rooted version" of their lost/stolen app, which means the app needs to be installed in the root \system folder. When I try to do this (either through the Avast app itself or a Cerberus update.zip file in CWM Recovery), installation fails. No errors reported in CWM Recovery, but the app simply does not work. With Avast, a warning pops up immediately that I need around 6 MB (depending on the app) and all I have left is 32kb! Titanium Backup app reports the same value of 32kb as the amount of space left in the system ROM. That would appear to explain the failure of the rooted version of Cerberus to function. :eek:

So, I'm wondering if later versions of Tiny's ROM (from May and July) might have a larger system ROM space so I could install one of these lost/stolen tracker apps?

Or is there another workaround to solve this issue? Here's hoping Tiny or someone else here has an answer. :fingers-crossed:

Thanks again to Tiny and the other devs for keeping the dinc going. I still can't get over the idea that a 3-year-old device is "ancient". Maybe I don't know what I'm missing (I'm considering getting a used year-old Samsung S3 when the price comes down some more), but this is only my 2nd smartphone (the first was an OG Moto Droid) and I remain VERY happy with the dinc's compact size, light weight and (at least to my eye) solid performance (particularly with WiFi) especially after Tiny's modded Jelly Bean 4.2.2 replaced the original Gingerbread 2.3.6.

Before this issue with lost/stolen apps came up, the only other complaint I had was a tendency for the dinc to crash when using the latest versions of NavFree mapping -- annoying but bearable, since I only rely on the dinc for GPS mapping in a pinch.

I see references here in the thread to an "Evervolv" ROM that appears to work okay on the dinc. Any idea if its ROM might have the space I need? I would really prefer to stick with the work Tiny and the rest of you have done here on this thread. :confused:

Cheers! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
If I were you I'd flash the latest build from mid April and the latest gapps (4-05). You should have about 20-30 MB free on /system then.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hapablap:
This is not a complaint; it's just something that happened a few weeks ago that I've never bothered trying to fix (hitting my upgrade cycle next week and may finally retire the dinc), that I thought you guys might find amusing.

Anyway, check this out: somehow cLock and my calculator app have gotten their signals crossed, and now I have a smushed calculator instead of the clock on my lockscreen. The keys actually work too, and sometimes if I have the phone held sideways you can see the numbers on the keys for a second till it refreshes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tiny4579:
Whoah. That's kind of funny. It seems like it's a lockscreen widget. Have you tried to remove it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Can someone with working data and running the latest nightly test tethering? I got some theories and ideas. Well, just two really, but one is really strong.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Shakes27:
Tethering running fine here, Bluetooth and WiFi.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Appreciate it. I think I'm going to change something which may or may not break it. We'll see.