yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Atrix 2] shardul.phatak:
ill prefer CMPA over AOSPA .....

utility of CMPA is always useful than style n appearance of AOSPA

aospa lacks in too many options that i dnt wanna loose

but i'm on NUMA (most stable ROM for A2) now cas of camera issue in CMPA .... was missin it badly :crying:

hope altered get it fixed asap :) :fingers-crossed:
[Motorola Atrix 2] amynjimmy:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

That's exactly how I got multiboot working.... Just need to take your time Read the options and make sure u select what u want to flash/wipe or could end up with problems. I have been running all of them and it is great.

Bmm

1. Stock 4.0.4

2. Miui

3. PA 310 4.2.2

4. CMPA 4.1.2
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

So, after playing around with it a bit, I now have AOSPA on system 1 and CMPA on system 3..

I was just trying to get rid of bmm and flash aospa as first and only system (wiped data/factory reset, and installed on 1st system) - but after I rebooted, I noticed the bmm splash screen, said a little curse word, then it was boot looping on the nexus boot ani. So I flashed the multi system patch, and it booted fine.

No stuttering moto logos.. USB works fine on both systems.. still have bmm recovery working..

Hoping I can work this out to be the new custom recovery for the PA ROMs..

Sent from my paranoid phone's mind
[Motorola Atrix 2] minhajlk:
Sounds good, looking forward for it, also lookin forward for updates on AOSPA.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Co2Noss:
Finally updated from version 1 to 7 today. Lol. Quite the update altered! :victory:
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
I uploaded a new test version of AOSPA with BootMenu Manager Recovery... I will need some fearless testers to play with recovery and such.

You can find the BMM version(s) here: http://beta.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=3922

Just install the ROM as you normally would (wiping as necessary), then Gapps, and reboot... you should get the android gears splash screen (with no stuttering moto logo reboot :D).

If custom recovery freezes at any point (it froze on me once or twice) - just smash and hold down the three hard-keys (power, vol. up, & vol. down) until it reboots (about 10 seconds), and try again..

Again, this is a test version, do not install it if you can not get yourself out of trouble. And I assume no responsibility for your phone..

Please post comments/issues/discoveries here.
[Motorola Atrix 2] amynjimmy:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

dling now

Bmm

1. Stock 4.0.4

2. Miui

3. PA 310 4.2.2

4. CMPA 4.1.2
[Motorola Atrix 2] Syxoed:
got some fc's on Apollo 1.1 with latest (181212) AOSPA build.

camerafx works fine btw, got some issues with flash but it's fine
[Motorola Atrix 2] amynjimmy:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Installed fine with bmm edition... Non need to flash fix
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
I didn't mean to scare people out of trying the new BMM version with my previous post..:p It is as safe as any other custom ROM we have (messes with basically only your /system partition - so fxz or cwm restore should straighten things out).

I only gave the warnings and disclaimers because of what you are capable of doing in recovery, and I didn't even get a chance to get familiar with it yet (I accidentally wiped my sdcard with BMM :\ - it was late, and I was wiping everything.. doh!)

So, again the new version of AOSPA has BMM built-in. No need for a patch to install it. But, if you want to install an additional ROM on System_3 or _4, you will still need a patch..

Humble thanks and credit goes to whirleyes...

Add1: an issue I notice is when installing other ROMs, it force installs BMM into the ROM (I just wiped data, and installed Numa as 1st system) - that's why we have issues flashing roms and need a patch (though no patch needed for Numa, or maybe first system ROMs?)

Also, to completely remove the additional systems, I think you need to fxz.. unless there's another way that I am missing.. Like I said, I am still exploring BMM.
[Motorola Atrix 2] 1BadWolf:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

So far, I have successfully backed up, factory reset, and restored the back up on first system. Then I activated second system, installed NUMA, and restored the backup I made before I installed this ROM. Everything seems to work great so far. I have a bit of a learning curve since this is the first time I have attempted to dual boot. The only "issue" I have noticed so far (standard bugs excluded) is occasionally I have to reset backup and/or zip file location in BMM. Not a big deal though. First boot was a little hairy. I initially installed over NUMA with just standard wipes, and got a weird Japanese (?) t9 dialer instead of the qwerty keyboard, with no status bar and no screenshot capability. I FXZ'd back to stock and started fresh and no problems since other than the BMM location issue I mentioned. Must've been my fault and not the ROM. I'll keep playing with it and report back when I have more info. Great job once again. I'm impressed as usual.:thumbup:

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[Motorola Atrix 2] sazhagianambi:
to get rid of of other systems --> I am under impression that boot into to system1 and go data\clockworkmod\virtual folder and delete the system we want to delete...
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Ok.. some more notes.. this time on removal of BMM.

I had installed Numa over the AOSPA-bmm version, and it automatically reinstalled BMM.

To remove it from Numa (or other stock-based ROM), I did the following:

-Delete the /system/etc/bmm directory

-Delete /system/bin/logwrapper, and rename logwrapper.bin to logwrapper

Or from adb:

adb shell
su
mount -o rw,remount /system
rm -r /system/etc/bmm
mv /system/bin/logwrapper.bin /system/bin/logwrapper
exit
exit
adb reboot (if you want)

Also, to restore your original cdrom, boot to fastboot mode and cd to your appropriate ICS fxz directory on your computer and:

moto-fastboot flash cdrom cdrom

Then I was able to install the A2Bootstrap, and start my experiments again.. so, I re-installed AOSPA-bmm, then removed bmm as shown above, and bootlooped.. with no recovery.. :\

Sooo.. what I did was:

-connect to usb (thankfully adb was recognized during the bootloop)

-pushed the finalize_release script to /tmp and ran it, then rebooted - back to the old AOSPA recovery :D

It kinda went like this:

adb push finalize_release /tmp/
adb shell
su
chmod 0777 /tmp/finalize_release
sh /tmp/finalize_release
exit
exit
adb reboot

I have attached the finalize_release script below in case anyone needs it (extract the file from the zip).
[Motorola Atrix 2] demonoid phenomenom:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

hi altered, first , thank you for a great rom, i have successfully installed CMPA, but i always get a different error, meaning, i always get a random soft key not working (home, search, back ,menu key) and non ics jb gapps works for me , done several wipes, factory resets, deleted almost every gapp leaving only playstore but sadly did't work, gives me lots of fc's, , i flashed this over leak 1 , running wanggighost's cm10 build , any help would be appreciated

sent from the gray stuff inside my skull
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Uploaded the 19MAR2013 version of AOSPA with the old recovery (I did include the rootfs folder in this version - so it can be easily installed as 2nd or 3rd system without flashing an extra bmm patch)
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Sorry, didn't see your post..

Not working, like at all? Or not vibrating, or not responding sometimes? Does it come back after a reboot?

The only thing I get (besides the button-backlights not working) is the vibration goes out once and a while, but comes back. I think its a hwcomposer issue maybe, since I removed it..

Maybe try a different ROM or older version and see if it happens.
[Motorola Atrix 2] demonoid phenomenom:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

rom runs really s.oth, and by smoth i mean zero lag at all, it does come back after a reboot, the only issues are fc's on all gapps, and on the fifth rom flash also aosp keyboard got fc's aswell , will tryout older builds , alsoi forgot to mention its an att phone, and thanks for the ideas

sent from the gray stuff inside my skull
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Sounds like you have the wrong Gapps package..

For AOSPA, I recommend this one: http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip

For CMPA, I recommend this one: http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip

(At least those are what I use..)
[Motorola Atrix 2] skearton:
Still loving AOSPA. I wish I could get snapchat to work. It initializes, but once it blurs slightly, it crashes.

If theres anything a NOOB can do to help, let me know.

Thanks Altered!
[Motorola Atrix 2] demonoid phenomenom:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

downloading right now, any ideas/ workaround on soft keys non responsive? appears to become home button non responsive in allflashing attempts, still it does have haptic feedback but with no action ( it doesn't do anything besides vibrating)

sent from the gray stuff inside my skull
[Motorola Atrix 2] minhajlk:
I just flashed AOSPA version on 4th system using BMM successfully. Thank you Altered.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

1) bmm force installing itself is not an issue. Its a security feature. The reason for why it happens is, when you install a ROM on 1st system, it replaces the logwrapper.. Well, since we have a locked boot loader, the hijack is stored in system partition.. i.e., changes or the hijack are made to log wrapper file(and logwrapper.bin is the backup.. So that's why renaming logwrapper.bin to logwrapper uninstalled bmm). Now if any other logwrapper is present, bmm will not have any more hold on startup. If you have a wrong logwrapper, you can no longer get to custom recovery and your phone can get soft bricked.. So bmm checks for and installs its logwrapper to avoid that..

2) regarding the patch and numa, well cm and pa need 2nd-init to run on our phone. Now, the cyanogen boot menu keeps them in /system/bootmenu/2nd-init. However, whirleyes bmm and hashcodes ss both look for the 2nd-init files in /etc/rootfs. So what my patch does is, it copies all necessary files to the required place. So it boots up fine.. The draw back with my method is that a ROM that has different custom init files will need a different patch. I am trying to write a script based patch that can be universal.. But there are some issues.. just FYI, if you want to try kexec based ROMs, just copy /system/bootmenu/2nd-boot to /system/etc and rename it to kexec. Now, coming to numa, well numa is based on the stock ICS ROM and so works fine with the stock kernel(the ramdisk to be precise..). Its not just numa, even scv7 will need no patches.. And any ROM based on stock system won't require any patch. And any ROM based on cm (like pa) needs the 2nd-init in the right place. So immaterial of on which system you flash a cm based ROM, you need to patch it up..

3) if you made bmm compatible with our phone by making the change to the recovery.fstab as I have done, and made a thread on it, just use a root file explorer and goto /data/clockworkmod/virtual and delete the system folder that corresponds to the system you want to delete.. And of course you can uninstall bmm by just downloading the app from play store and hitting uninstall.. Also the code you gave a couple of posts above is pretty much the same as what the uninstall does.. Just as a script..

And everyone, don't forget to give the boot menu manager a 5 stars on play store.. What he(and of course hashcode with ss as well) has done is just outstanding work..
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Thanks for the information, but I am aware of all of that by now...

And I was referring to the bmm self-install feature being an issue if you want to get rid of it by flashing a new ROM on first system. Trust me, I am familiar with the logwrapper and hijacks.. I was involved with originally getting the A2 supported by whirleyes on the old bmm.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Ah.. If you look at it that way, then it is an issue.. And I did type a little too much.. :D didn't mean to portray you in a way that you didn't know about it.. Sry if I did..

It might help others.. Hehe.. :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] anikadam:
hey altered, just flashed the bmm version on 3rd system with no issues.. i dunno what went wrong, but this happened to me in the last version too(16th march one).. Im not able to change any paranoid settings.. no colors or even switch from the phablet mode to any other mode.. Also the backup/restore preferences is still broken.. :/
[Motorola Atrix 2] demonoid phenomenom:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

just flashed for the seventh time, and finally everithing went ok, seemed to be my mistake, i was flashing gapps right after rom, comes out that doing that messed with my phone, instead iflashed rom, then reboot , give rom some time to fully start , then flashed gapps and reboot again, rightnow everything is running ok , looking forward for the tearing issue to go away, you rock altered, i really have no regrets on flashing CMPA as a daily driver, thank you so much

edit:i think you need to update op since stock camera does work, exept flash not being synchronized with shot

sent from the gray stuff inside muy skull
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Strange.. Never had an issue with the PAprefs.. Except, yes, the backup is still broken - have not been able to track that down yet.

You try to wipe cache and clear data in Manage apps for ParanoidPreferences yet?
[Motorola Atrix 2] eainyow:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Altered I remember one of the AOSPA versions for the nexus 4 changed the restore location of the backuped prefs and you'd have to manually put it back in the right place if that helps. And thanks again altered for keeping this phone alive :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] vinamilk:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Tried many Cam apps but none of them work fine. Just black screen or FC when apps run.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Lifehacker7:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Have you tried lgcamera? I'm on cm10.1 and it works great! Might work on PA too!

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LIFE!

IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OUT OF IT!
[Motorola Atrix 2] vinamilk:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Yeh, tried it on PA too. FX zoom, FV5, LgCam and so on, none of them work! Black screen or FC.
[Motorola Atrix 2] sazhagianambi:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Nope pa aosp version 3.1 doesn't seem working with any camera.. Just blank black screen...
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Clear data for Gallery in Mange Apps.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Syxoed:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ymst.android.fxcamera works fine for me..
[Motorola Atrix 2] 1BadWolf:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Everything is still working great for me. I have 1) AOSPA, 3) NUMA, 4) Magic Mod and 5) SCV7. It actually shows me having 5 systems installed with CMPA as the second system though I didn't actually install that one and when I try to boot that one it just boots AOSPA instead. I'm not really sure why that is but doesn't seem to have any effect on anything else so it doesn't bother me. I have backed up all the available systems and have been able to restore the back ups on to others. In other words, backed up system 5 and restored to system 3, and so on. It froze once while setting up system 5 but I used the 3 button hard restart and it hasn't happened again. And I forgot to install the patch for Magic Mod so it bootlooped 3 times before I figured out what I did wrong.:rolleyes: I honestly never multi booted this phone before because I didn't think it would be all that useful, but now I think I can probably have some fun with it. Thanks again for all your time and hard work. I think you're doing a great job and I think I can safely say everybody here appreciates everything you do.:thumbup:

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[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

OK. I had the same thing just now, and was about to say "oh crap, he's right, I screwed something else up"... But I just rebooted to recovery and wiped cache and dalvik cache and now my camera works again (using Camera ZOOM FX).

The current incarnation of the stock built-in camera is buggy. The stock rear-facing video works when called by a 3rd party app. But it seems if you try to open the stock camera itself, you get a black screen and it messes up all other cameras - looks like a cache/dalvik wipe clears it up..

Trust me, I am trying to fix the cam (and other things)... These are not final versions yet. I want nothing more than for them to be bug free so I could do some more personal customizations and move on to other things.. or just relax :p

Edit: I reproduced the error where you open the stock camera, get a black screen, then no cams work - so, this time I just went to Manage Apps and wiped cache and data for Gallery, and rebooted - and my 3rd party cam works again.

So no need to fully wipe dalvik & cache.. Maybe just a reboot will fix it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] brianmoyano:
With CameraFX works the flash? Or it has the torch feature?
[Motorola Atrix 2] vinamilk:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Maybe I have to try it again. I wiped and clear data for stock Gallery but 3rd camera apps still show black screen.
[Motorola Atrix 2] amynjimmy:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

I rebooted and it worked

Atrix 2/ ATT /Bmm

1. Stock 4.0.4

2. Miui

3. PA 310 4.2.2

4. CMPA 4.1.2
[Motorola Atrix 2] Syxoed:
no, sale a destiempo el flash.

__

nope, it doesn't work
[Motorola Atrix 2] tanmoy_sil:
Help pls

My atrix is stuck in a black screen during the reboot after the update? What should i do? Help pls.
[Motorola Atrix 2] atrix2man:
Hmm not rushing you or trying to bother you altered but the bmm version aospa has storage reading issues causes all my media players to be unusable and while im playing music and my phone locks it sometimes freezes with my music playing and i cant stop it unless i do battery pull. Rather than that really good man. And i did try wipeing cache and having a fresh install..still the same. Anyways looking foward to newer better versions :good:
[Motorola Atrix 2] A2Trip:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Dude the 3.10 19MARCH build fixed up the ability to use the motocam! Quality is SO much better. The flash is still not in sync but the cam quality matches 2.57.3. Great job Altered! :thumbup:
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Need more details to help.. What ROM were you on? What did you install?

Hmm indeed.. I don't use media players often, but my sdcard is recognized and I can read/write to it on the bmm version. Apollo seems to play my music from sdcard, etc.. Not sure what the issue could be.

I have an updated pa-3.15 that I am testing/fixing up and will probably upload soon - a version with the classic cm-defy recovery, and a bmm version again..
[Motorola Atrix 2] 1BadWolf:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

This phone is a backup that I use as an mp3 player so I would've noticed days ago if I was having the same issue. I usually use PowerAmp, but I also tested Apollo and haven't had any problems with either. Which player do you use?

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[Motorola Atrix 2] anikadam:
yeah did that.. tried wiping cache and dalvik cache and even wiped cache partition from stock recovery.. still no luck :rolleyes:
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Try deleting /data/data/com.paranoid.preferences and dalvik cache again and reboot.. Otherwise which version are you using? On what system slot?
[Motorola Atrix 2] gvsukids:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Snapchat doesn't work
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
If it uses front-facing video to capture the images, then correct.. it will not work.

Also, a little off-topic, but I found this article on snapchat :p: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local...napchat-is-a-perfect-tool-for-child-predators - not hinting at anything, of course.. just thought it was funny.. "creepers"
[Motorola Atrix 2] anikadam:
Still a no go.. i would like to mention that since theres no way to back up or restore the paranoid settings, i had used properties.conf from a previous build in this and the previous version.. Currently i'm using your bmm version and the previous build was the 16thmarch one..
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

You got the right permissions on that properties.conf (0644, rw-r--r--)? Or open your backed up one and compare with and edit the new one.. I don't think that there were major changes to it though.

Also, you probably didn't copy the backup.conf, but if you did, erase the last line with the mod.version, if it's there..
[Motorola Atrix 2] tanmoy_sil:
help
[Motorola Atrix 2] m.syahril.niezam:
OP, just a stupid question here.. in AOSPA, where is the development settings?
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]
[Motorola Atrix 2] alteredlikeness:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Tap on "Build number" 7 times in Settings>About Phone
[Motorola Atrix 2] anikadam:
yup, didnt copy the backup.conf, just the properties.conf.. Anyways I edited the system preferences in the stock properties.conf (copy pasted my custom values) and its working fine again.. :D Thanks altered !!
[Motorola Atrix 2] atrix2man:
It doesnt happen right wen i play music..if my screen stays locked to long using apollo music player then my fone freezes.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Syxoed:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

My juice goes from 100% to 0 in 5 hours. Somebody got the same problem? Maybe is just a rogue.

Im on AOSPA 19/3 build.
[Motorola Atrix 2] Ravikirancg:
Re: [ROM][JB 4.1.2 & 4.2.2] PARANOIDANDROID 2.57.4 & 3.10 [Updated 2013.03.13]

Just flash the stock ICS boot.img. no need to do anything more.
[Motorola Atrix 2] sazhagianambi:
hmm, somehow I couldn't make any camera work on mine. I tried clear dalvik/cache, reboor, clear cache/data on gallery (all the options suggested by altered).. all I see is black screen..I can list with this fine, but Just wondering as may be it;s because I have it on 3rd system rather than primay?