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[Nexus 10 Accessories] Nitemare3219:
Can you better explain what you mean here?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I monitored the rate of discharge/charge with Battery Monitor Widget in one minute interval and when I plugged into my PC's USB port the charging rate of the POGO didn't change at all.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] 3DSammy:
[Q] Does charging with Pogo Plug cause headphone humming sound?

I read in this thread:

"Humming sound when charging with headphones connected"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2001668

That thread refers to headphone humming sound when charging through the USB charger. I would like to know if the pogo plug has the same issue.

To anyone with a pogo charger, please do the following tests and reply to the thread with answer to these Yes/No questions:

1) Listen to music through headphones without charging: Did you hear humming? Yes/No

2) Charge via the microUSB connector while using headphones: Did you hear humming? Yes/No

3) Charge via the pogo plug while using headphones: Did you hear humming? Yes/No

Thanks
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ladicx:
I just ordered the first one from your seller on amazon. Hopefully all goes well and the wait isn't too long. Im in ca and the seller is listed here. I will report back :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jjdevega:
Just placed an order. Looks like I wont have to wait long for delivery since its in the USA. Yet I'm still a little weary of new sellers with no reviews... Guess we shall see.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
Tested this with a 5 foot extension.... did not slow it down at all.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
How did you test it? I tried that monitoring with Battery Monitor Widget and got a dramatic drop in charging rate but that could be because of the quality of my cord.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] ryan stewart:
I wonder if it does a "Check" like the transformer did. My old TF101 charger looked for a specific "response" from the tablet to confirm charging at a high rate, if it didnt get that response it assumes it was hooked up to a phone and dropped to 5v/500ma. So I had to us a USB3 compatible cable, which had the extra pins it was using, to get the proper talkback to switch the power supply into "tablet mode."
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
That can't be with the POGO as it doesn't have all the pins used just the ones used for charging, it can't be used for a PC data connection. I have a high quality short extension cord on the way just to hack up for checking current draw, we'll see how that one works.

OT: Not sure if this is a ROM/kernel or whatever issue but BMW(v2.6.12) just auto-updated for me and I can't get into Settings. I restored my Titanium backup(v2.6.11) and shut off the auto update at the Play Store.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Still nothing :/ Can't remember the exact time range to be expecting delivery, but it's been 15 days since I put in the order, and there's been no notable shipping updates (nothing saying it ever arrived in the US). Should I be concerned?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dust.:
I would wait just a bit longer. I just received mine two days ago after no shipping updates on the website after around 1/11. It took a total of around 2-3 weeks so maybe wait until next week before really worrying? I hope it comes soon!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
I used BMW like u did. I plugged in the charger, checked widget... then added the extension and checked widget again.

I had to wait for charge to get up but in a short time was charging at same level.

The extension cable is actually a bit thicker then the charger cable..... maybe it is a quality thing as you suggested.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
@espionage724 - I have a ship date of 1/14 and it was handed over to air carrier in Incheon on 1/16. From my initial experience, I do not expect any updates until USPS shows it at my local post office. I had hoped it would be here by today, but surely by end of next week. I do not doubt I will receive it, but the waiting is hard, and maybe harder now that they are available through Amazon.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
OT: Did you get the BMW update and have the same issue as I did?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
OK.... just did the BMW update and different story :(

Without extension:

With extension:

BTW...... it's a 6 foot extension. ツ

Changed to USB without extension and getting 699mA
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
You need to do this with the charge around 50%, maybe 60%.

Lithium batteries are charged in two stages. The first stage, from 0% to somewhere around a bit over half, is done as fast as the charger can pull off. The second stage is current-limited, and typically the charge current goes down as you approach 100% charge.

So, in order to test the maximum current it can pull from the POGO adapter, you need to make sure you're in that first stage.

This assumes a reasonably cool room. The N10 may also slow down charging if the battery gets too warm, I haven't tested this.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I've posted before in other threads, if you watch the charging current in BMW you'll see that the N10 only once in a while it drop to a lower changing current at 4.2V like it should and stop at 2.5/3.0V which can damage the battery. Unless its of the new bread that can go that high. I don't allow mine to charge fully because of this until I find out that it's safe.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
Mine always drops to a lower current at 4.2V.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Can you get into Settings with the update? The Dev knew of the problem, sent me four versions to try but found the problem before I even tried them.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
Settings works fine for me.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
What ROM and kernel are you on?

---------- Post added at 10:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:54 PM ----------

What version are you using?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
ROM and kernel are both stock.

BMW 2.6.12.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I'm on AOKP PUB ROM and KTManta kernel.

The Dev posted a v2.7 which clicking on Settings now takes me to his website Help page for BMW!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
I got my POGO charger yesterday and am very dissatisfied. I put my Nexus on the charger last night and it charged so slowly, that my nexus was only at 91% when I woke up. I checked my email and browsed a website or two before I disconnected it from the charger and my charge actually went down to 89% in a few short minutes. Even my USB charger charges faster than the tablet consumes the battery on simple tasks.

I have attached a graph of my battery level for the night, and you can see where I woke up at 0830 and the battery dipped. Then you can see a steeper slope after I plugged in my USB charger.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Get the Battery Monitor Widget and check the charging rate on both micro-USB and POGO.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
There is something wrong there for sure

you may want to return it.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
I may be wrong since I have not received mine yet, it may be a totally stupid question, but the pictures I've seen show it just includes the cable. Did you do the test with the original nexus 10 ac transformer (wall charger) and pogo cable? Other chargers and even USB ports could supply less charging amps. That would be the only true way to test the pogo cable against the known usb charging cable using the same power port and comparing the results.

Btw, I had a similar result charging with my regular cable, and very slow to charge, and didn't top off, and then it drained extremely fast... Don't know what caused it but just reset the hardware and it was back to normal (hold power button down 10 seconds till it reboots)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] lKBZl:
I need a replacement for my cable and they don't answer my e-mails. My cable smells very bad and I don't want it like this, I paid for something normal... what do you guys think I should do.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] AngDR01D:
How is the magnetic pogo cable, does it work perfectly? I feel like getting one for my nexus but I need to know if this cable is legit/durable, let me know what you think guys.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Accessories] mckeowngoo:
That is like the best reply I have ever seen, like ever!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] lKBZl:
What reply? :highfive:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Jayrod1980:
Mine came today! Looks nice and doesn't smell. Haven't had a chance to use it as my device is stuck in limbo waiting for parts to arrive after Samsung messed up my device the first time.

Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4, So that I can use the one I'm using now when I get the 6th and hopefully final one.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
I used Battery HD to view the charge rate. I have had this widget/app installed since the day I got my Nexus, so I know it didn't adversely affect my results.

I used my OEM charger with both the POGO and factory USB cable for the results I posted.

For reference, here is my charge from the previous night with the factory USB cable.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I have no issue with it being slow, in fact it's much faster. Sounds like you don't shut it off completely while charging? Your the first to complain about slow charging.

We do know that if one uses OTG, charging will cease and not resume when one removes your flash drive. It'll take a reboot or removing/reinstalling the POGO cord for charging to start again.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
I didn't use an OTG cable. I connected the pogo charger and went to sleep. I'll try again tonight and see what happens.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
Not a big difference.....
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ashade:
Seriously, that charging rate is not normal even for usb and the tablet turned on. You may want to return it. Was the screen on?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Need a better explanation of what you mean or did.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ashade:
Here you have my last 24h, tablet on all the time and charging through usb. The bottom yellow bar indicates screen on.

Something is wrong with that tablet.

(Sorry for the double post, I couldn't EDIT the previous one to had the image)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
The screen was off. I'm going to try another wall adapter. I have a Belkin, which is pretty good. It was said to be the fastest charger for the iPad, beating the OEM adapter. Until now, I have never charged my tablet with anything other than the stock adapter.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
The charger is inside the N10. What your referring to is a power supply only. I've used the PS from my Dell Streak 7 with no change.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
True, but the power supply has to be capable of supplying the 2A the tablet can use. Anything less will reduce the charge rate.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
I just go the app you recommended from the market. It shows that the battery is discharging with the POGO adapter installed and the screen on. The first attachment is with the micro USB port the second is with the POGO adapter.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
That doesn't look like Battery Monitor Widget from 3C that I use. If the PS works from the micro-USB port, it should work from the POGO port. Either your POGO cord is bad or the port.

BMW website: http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/1
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
That's the stock charger? It should say that AC is plugged, not USB, when you're using the POGO cable.

When I plug my Nexus 10 into an iPad port with a micro USB cable, it detects as AC. When I plug the POGO cable into the same iPad charge port, it detects as USB and is limited to 500mA. You need to use a non-Apple charger... Like the one that came with the tablet.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] kieu96:
It's working fine with samsung, htc charger.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
It's Android Tuner by 3C. Which has BMW bundled with some other apps.

Yes, it's the stock charger.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
The one from me that got deleted for some reason.

And yes, it WAS the perfect reply to that post.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Okay, I see. I put it into one minute interval and watch the history if I want to look closely.

---------- Post added at 10:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:29 AM ----------

That's strange like it detects more pins yet they say that the POGO cord can't be used to transfer data.

Wow! Had mine charging in sleep mode which I never tried before and it showed a charging rate of 1873ma. Plugged in my PC and it still shows it as charging but BMW shows a discharge of 800-900ma. This charging circuit if easily fooled.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
Here is from 18% to 100%. Confirmed on the history view that's about 21%/hr during the first phase of charging.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jeepguy_1980:
I assume this was with the Pogo cable?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Glad you posted this as I was going to ask somebody if their N10 charged to over 4.3V which is considered to be over the max battery voltage limit of a Li-Ion cell. In what state was your device for that screen?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
Correct.

It was sitting on a table charging, until I woke up and removed the POGO cable. It was powered on, but in sleep mode.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Yeah, I guessed that. I discovered that while on AC power in full use, it seems to charge at a higher rate going right past the 4.2V mark without dropping the rate like it misses that stage but "maybe" not all the time but most of the time. Charging while in sleep mode the rate does drop at the 4.2V mark. If your on AC power, reach 100%, after a period of time it will stop charging. At that same period of time, if put to sleep and awakened, it'll stop charging. A reboot, it will stop charging too. This might be a battery safety feature because it's over 4.3V at that time.

I thought that I may have a hardware issue till I saw your screen capture.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] duarian:
Coming up on 3 weeks now and my tracking still says 'we have received notice your package is being shipped by the retailer'. No other updates. Looks like mine is lost somewhere in the world. Sadly I ordered a week before they went live in the US.

Sent them an email in hopes they can send me one from CA...let's hope my $25 didn't just get burnt :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] UCSB:
I've been tracking mine on this site: http://www.track-trace.com/post

You need your shipment tracking number.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] duarian:
Yes. That's the same one I used. My # started with an RR and has said the same thing since day one about receiving notice that the origin is preparing shipment.

Last update was 2 days after shipment where it left the international post office that was sadly 12 days ago as of today. Oh well. Here's hoping it updates by the end of the week.

Sent them an email and they replied very quickly but it wasnt at all helpful, just told me what I already knew. How to track it, and that it was shipped on X day.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Mine shipped on 1/14, left the international post office on 1/16, and I am still waiting also.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dberthia:
Got mine. Generally satisfied except for two things:

Cable could use another foot or two of length

Very hard to attach connector to N10 with my Poetic Slimline case in closed position (more of a case complaint).
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Johan1976:
Sv: Magnetic POGO Cable

I'm impressed with the fast delivery. Ordered last Monday evening (CET) and today it arrived. Not even a week. And this is to Sweden.

Skickat från min Nexus 10 via Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dajogejr:
Paid and ordered from Amazon Thursday, arrived today via mail.

Did smell like dirt/earth.

Don't really care about that, just saw it mentioned a few times.

The other I ordered off the website (not fleabay) paid 14th, shipped 16...still waiting.

No biggie

Amazon's shipping lightning fast!!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] leyvatron:
Same here. Ordered mine on Friday and it arrived today. They are like 30 min away from me. 25 bucks seems a bit pricey though.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
Thanks for that post.. Mine shipped Monday... I'm in Burbank (considered LA as well).. So maybe I will get mine tomorrow?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
So...(sorry for the lame question) it is safe?

Dont want to roast my Nexus...

Did anyone confirm yet via a test or from an official site that the cable is safe to go?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] leyvatron:
Most likely. They are coming from OC. Aliso Viejo.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dajogejr:
Ok...my bad.

Two came to work yesterday, one early, one late.

From Korea early. From California later in the day.

So...got them both....both smell like earth/dirt.

Charging tablet from 35% to see how fast it'll go.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] lKBZl:
I see im not the only one who found out that it smells like that, thanks.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I've put into sleep mode, used Battery Monitor Widget and in that state, charging drops to nil at/around 4.3V. It appears to be only if charging and using the device with the screen ON that this happens with either the POGO or micro-USB charging method.

I not sure if the free version of BMW allows mim/max voltage alerts/notifications but the Pro version(On sale right now) which I just bought does. I played with the alert to make sure it worked and set it to alert/notify me at 4.295V.

Don't think any manufacturer will state that any third party AC power supply, cord, etc. is safe because they want you buy theirs, if they had one.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] forsaken82:
ordered mine on amazon last night. will update as soon as it gets here.,
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I received a zioTEX 7.5" USB extension cord today and even being that short affected the charging rate of the POGO. Not nearly as much as a much longer cheapo but it did drop 100ma for sure. I was going to hack it up to use for measuring the current it draws although now it looks like the reading will be skewed.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
Got mine, and one day shipping to Burbank, Ca. I using Amazon. The smell does remind me of a gardening section of a hardware store.... Dirt.... But more like weed killer on a lawn. I Chemical/Dirt smell.

QUESTION: Does the nexus 10 support fast USB charging? (using pogo). I am using Battery Monitor Widget Pro and in settings/calibration it has 2 options for fast USB charging :

My kernel /phone does not support it (500mA) or

My kernel /phone does support it (750mA)

I believe it's the first one? Correct?

Are there any other settings in BMW pro that need to be adjusted for the N10 or pogo?

Thanks all
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
Thank you for the answer!

Mhm so you mean with either the USB Or the pogo 4.3V(the maximum if i understand this right) are reached when the screen is on and charging. So no difference according to your testing.

So it SHOULD probably be safe if I interpret that right. (don't worry i won't ask you about a guarantee ;)) just need to clear the facts for me since I am not that familiar with the matter.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] ryan stewart:
Other than the smell this magnector is great. Feels as well made as the charger from Samsung. I hope they are working on a doc of some sort.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] roloracer:
What's the smell from? The magnetic connection with current?

RoloRacer on my Galaxy Note
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Don't know but the partner or KTweaker to the KTManta kernel the same option but it's not functional. I've never tried it, just got BMWP version yesterday why don't you try it?:D

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Not exactly, see if I can make it more clearer. If the device is ON, screen ON, either charging from the micro-USB or POGO is seems to not slow down at 4.2 like it should and goes over the 4.3V max. If the device is ON, screen OFF like in sleep mode, it slows down at 4.2V and practically stops at 4.3V as monitored with Battery Monitor Widget.

If the device is completely OFF, there isn't a running app to tell what it's really doing. The PS or wall unit does get real cool as if it stopped charging so I "assume" it stops. Although it's going to be not a perfect test since as it seeems to affect the charging rate a bit, I'm going to butcher up this short extension cord I received today to see if it's drawing any current after the wall unit appears cool.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] SCHEND0:
Weirdly enough I am liking the smell, it is definitely quite potent put not in a bad way. Actually, my Supcase Portfolio that I bought for my 10 smells as well. 100% smell ratio for all the accessories I've purchased so far.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] verusevo:
I honestly don't understand your issue. Does the cable not function somehow. Are you concerned the bad smell may be a sign of some defect that could appear after use and potentially harm your tablet. Outside of that why the big deal about how your cable smells?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
OK! Huh...so i think i wait a bit longer. Whats weird though is that the original cable also goes over the 4.3.

Thanks for your help!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] lKBZl:
The cable is working fine, but the small was pretty bad. I left it for a couple of days outside and it got better. I'll keep it, mailed them and they offered me to pay the shipping and they send me 2 cables, since shipping cost is almost same as a cable worth. One thing guys, in order to let the pogo cable reach the 4.3V, do you have to charge it with screen off or you can turn off the tablet? I mean, does it charge at max speed in both cases?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
What email did you message? I thought there was 2 or 3 different emails going around, but wasn't too sure.

Also I still have no cable or shipping updates. Ordered on the 10th, shipped on the 11th, and I think the last shipping update was on the 14th saying that it left some place in Korea.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Yep! Not weird, that's what it does.

I was playing last night, plugged in OTG, removed it and the POGO resumed charging which it didn't do before. I tried it again but this time, it wouldn't resume charging. The code for OTG doesn't take POGO input into account at all or incorrectly.

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It'll charge faster with the screen off. Anything you can read about charging a Li-Ion cell will state that it's supposed to charge in one stage(constant current) till it reaches 4.2V then it goes into stage two(constant voltage) at which time the charging rate will drop. With the screen ON, it doesn't appear to slow down at 4.2V for whatever reason and goes over 4.3V. Overcharging max is stated as 4.3V and I've seen it go to 4.314. After that point and a long period of time the N10 with go off AC input on it's own or after a reboot. A saftey measure but it seems to be much later than it should be.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] lKBZl:
There. towncomm@naver.com
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Mine shipped on the 14th. Still waiting also. My first order arrived much sooner
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Major Clod:
Have been browsing through this thread but struggling to find a clear answer as there seem to be lots of issues going about.

- For those with this pogo cable - does it charge the Nexus 10 faster than the micro USB cable, assuming factory ROM, and using the original N10 AC adaptor?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Yes it does.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
Much
[Nexus 10 Accessories] duarian:
Mine shipped on the 14th as well. Left the international post on the 16th and that's the last update I had.

I emailed the PayPal address email and they were pretty much useless. Just said 'our records indicate it has been shipped, hopefully you receive it soon'.

Wish I'd have waited two weeks and bought it from the amazon retailer.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] SCHEND0:
Most definitely