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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tybo31316:
I wouldnt use the EVO LTE as a measuring stick for connecting to LTE being that this phone has been plagued with connectivity issues since it was released. Sprint and HTC knew that this phone had issues and released it anyway. Therefore for me this is my last HTC phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AndrasLOHF:
Yeah I think some of the add ons only work with a headset plugged in or depending on what music app you're using. I use Poweramp and a bluetooth for everything since I despise wired headphones or should I say headphone wires lol. Though when I got home I did try out a set of earbuds and when the Acid Engine kicked on...instant eargasm.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dmyoung:
Many cities have become concerned with the proliferation of cell towers so, as a result, the providers have been forced to make the towers "invisible". Some are inside simulated water towers and in some cases they are "disguised" as trees. In Southern California some are hidden

in church bell towers. While the burden is on the providers to provide the services that they advertise, sometimes the local governments "help".
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AndrasLOHF:
Pretty much this. While I won't make excuses for Sprint taking longer than advertised for network vision I will say that if you have done any type of construction type work that requires pulling a permit you can really get a grasp on the some of the stupid crap needed before you can even start working depending on the project. Sure in some cases it's for safety reasons.... But a lot of it is just a pita money grab.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
OK guys. Here's where things stand. In some of the areas I travel locally, Sprint service is so bad that I'm considering just opening a new account with Verizon. I could give my ELTE to my son and ride out my Sprint contract with him on that phone, possibly reducing services and minutes a bit because my kids would be the only ones on the Sprint contract (2 phones). I could then evaluate how much better Verizon is and if Sprint doesn't improve (like everyone claims it will), I could pull the Sprint contract eventually. But obviously the longer I ride it out, the less the termination fees.

Anyway, I'd only do this if I think I can do it with little or no cost to me. That means I'd have to be able to recover the device cost (either $199 or $299) plus get enough donations to pay the ~$100/mo contract over time. I will not ask for donations to cover these (like the device) separately: I figure if I pick a popular device, the initial release of MeanBean on that device may (over the course of a month or so) pay for the device itself and hopefully the "trickle" of donations after that would keep me covered for the Verizon contract. I feel better about spending my money on the device and if people like what I am able to do with it, I can recover. That's better than asking people to "donate" a device based on a promise of what I "think" I can do. I feel better if the risk is on me. The trick here is picking the right device.

Since I'm looking at killing two birds with one stone by tackling the crippling Sprint cell service and my desire to not support any more HTC devices, I'm probably looking at Samsung devices. I got to use my friend's Samsung Galaxy Note II (on AT&T) several times and really liked it, so I think I'm down to the Samsung Galaxy Note II or the GS3. Personally, I'd probably favor the Note II (love the screen size) but being that the GS3 looks many times more popular, I may be forced to support the GS3 to even make this hairbrain idea feasible. So I guess one question would be: since the Note II is more recent, does anyone think it can ever challenge the popularity of the GS3?

Just looking for some thoughts/ideas. I'm on the fence and I'd probably only do this if it makes sense from a business perspective as I'm not really able to get further in debt by making stupid decisions like getting more cell phone contracts. So I'm just looking for some "calibration". Does the above even make any logical sense or am I just dreaming? To make this work in any business sense, I'd have to support two phones instead of just one and keep updating here too so it'd likely have little effect on this ROM but would re: the future of MeanBean overall since it could expand to one more device. That increases my Android time which is a factor too. So many variables...

Comments/ideas welcome.

Thanks,

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] smkyle:
The note series is awesome. Getting a popular phone cuts both ways because there will be more developers to compete with so you will really have to stand out without the benefit of a year of experience. I say get the phone you like best. Could you really get excited about working on a phone that is second best? Also, my wife has an Optimus G and it's great. Don't know how you feel about LG but if Verizon gets the G pro it might be worth waiting for. Or the Note 3 or s4. In any case I wouldn't hop on a phone that is about to get replaced. I have good sprint 4G in my area and my phone habits are such that I really love the unlimited data. If I were in your shoes I would jump ship too.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Well, as much as I hate to see you leave, here's my opinion. You want to do what's best for yourself, so go for it. I can certainly understand that it's not worth the aggravation.

In the discussion of GS3 vs Note 2 - I don't anticipate the Note 2 surpassing the GS3 ever. Why? Remember Black Friday 2012? Do you have ANY IDEA own many GS3 units that they sold that day alone?! Shoot, they sold one to me too, which I gave to my wife, and I used my upgrade on this phone. The note 2 may be sweet, but a 5" screen is VERY discouraging for the average customer, and even for the knowledgeable users of XDA.

The GS3 was a flagship device, the Note 2 was not....and I could go on and on. Long explanation short, go with the GS3. I doubt that you'll regret it. Or, maybe get the GS3 for one of your children, so that you can still build and test....just saying.

See ya, Mike. I can't see you staying at this point, and I don't blame you for a second.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
Thanks. That's the kind of feedback I need. It's true that more popular devices will have more competition. Also, I've only developed for Sense ROM's so far and I pretty much know HTC Sense inside and out. Who knows how much of a learning curve is involved with getting myself familiar enough with TouchWiz to develop for it. I had also considered the Droid DNA for which I'd have no problem developing. Kinda turned off on HTC with their dumlock and inability to release source code. Otherwise the DNA looks like a nice device.

Well, the whole scheme is kinda predicated on me developing for both devices. If I jump ship here and just start on another device, all I've gained is a Verizon contract and even with better cell/data service, I can't afford to just switch devices and bring in the same amount of donations to cover it. I'd have to support both to make this work. Maybe in that sense, it is becoming clearer that it's a better idea to stick with an HTC device like the DNA... that way a lot of my work would be portable between both devices I support. Maybe that's the only way I can make this work.

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Very strong point about the two-edged sword of a popular device.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drewski83:
I def think the SGS3 will prolly be best all round device to dev for. Although, I wouldn't mind seeing the Note 2 either. I'm in same boat as you, with crappy service and never seen 4G, much less LTE on my device ever in my city (southeast ga) or bigger cities within hr or two from me. Jacksonville, FL, St. Augustine, FL or Savannah, GA. Not once have I ever seen anything faster than 3mb down n that was in Jacksonville with 3G. I have been using the Verizon Corp PRL 5XXX for bout 3 weeks now. Hoping to get first warning letter soon. Can't wait to ditch Sprint for Verizon. Sux I have to even ditch in first place. But that's on Sprint, not me. They the ones who can't keep up on their promises and words. Anyways, ill be watching and waiting to see what ya decide on. I'm sticking with ya all the way, Mike! Have a great weekend. -Drew
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] smkyle:
One last thought. An S3 with a cracked screen comes pretty cheap... So would a Note 2 I guess but I'm not sure how writing on one would work
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
If I was going to jump to a new carrier I would wait until the next device drops. SG3 is nice, but won't the SG4 drop this summer. Switching to a year old device doesn't make a lot of sense when something better and more powerful is around the corner. I know you are souring in HTC, but if Sense is what you know it seems sticking with HTC may be the answer. Is Verizon getting the HTC One? With this being HTC's flagship device for 2013, a 64gb version of this beast would make the most sense. If you were going to jump to Samsung on Verizon, I think your best bet would be to sell your Evos while they are still worth good money and pay your ETF with the profit from those. I definitely would hate seeing you go, but if your service sucks where you are at and Verizon is good, you should do what's best for you. We will survive here, although our phone might suffer.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ahecht:
The SGS4 is going to be announced in less than a week (March 14th). Might as well wait until then to make a decision.

I personally cannot stand the blue halos on AMOLED screens, so I don't see myself switching to Samsung any time soon.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] TheLightDivided:
This is something that I can't stand about Samsung phones. I came from the OG Samsung Epic and loved the screen back then, but after living with this beautiful screen on the EVO LTE, I can't go back to AMOLED. I feel like it's burning my retinas.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
In playing with my friend's Note II, the display didn't look "milky" like the GS3. I set my ELTE right next to it and, maybe it was the (indoor) lighting, but I really couldn't tell the difference as far as clarity. I'm kinda leaning toward the Note II at this point if I make the plunge. Oddly enough, Best Buy's price is $199 for it and the Verizon store is $299. Anyone know why, and is buying it from Best Buy a bad idea? I've never bought cell service from them.

Thanks,

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rammv:
I get my phones from best buy or Sams club.Either way it is cheaper. The asurion insurance was the cheapest at Sams club, Its just best buy tries to sell you the extras like their electronic" Buy Back " "so you will never be not having the latest and greatest".With either I have never had a bad experiancs.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AndrasLOHF:
I have read on many other forums regarding people returning ELTE's that dealing with Best Buy's return/warranty/insurance policy is much better than carriers. I've never had to deal with any of that myself though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] maxpower7:
I would never buy a phone from a Verizon corporate store. The prices are always much higher than either Best Buy or just doing it all online, and they always try to upsell you with a bunch of accessories and service plans.

That said, I would go back to Verizon in a heartbeat if I could. My wife and I switched to Sprint because the plans are cheaper, but the network is absolutely abysmal in comparison to Verizon. We've had Verizon LTE in my area for over 2 years now, but I doubt I'll see Sprint LTE anytime soon. 3g data speeds here are slow to the point that I effectively have no data service on my phone if I leave the house, while everyone around me is flying on Verizon LTE. My wife is all about saving money though, so I don't think I'll convince her to switch back. I've actually been thinking of going the Straight Talk route. That way we still save money and I can use a Nexus 4, plus I'd at least have HSPA+ data.

Bottom line - I feel your Sprint pain.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrshades812:
Mike, if I were you I would wait for the GS4 to get released. Then you would be on equal ground with other devs as far as release of the phone goes. I do hate the amoled screen on the GS3 (my friend has one), but they are the most popular phone on the planet. I've also noticed that not one GS3 dev has cracked the roam only code. That might set you apart to create some buzz. If you take a look at the Verizon GS3 threads, the most popular ROMS are SynergyROM and CleanROM. I'd see what they have to offer the end user, then up the ante!

That's my take on it.

Good luck man!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
Bought my 3D and LTE from Best Buy. While I think they are slow in activation of the phone, customer service is great. Insurance Is good too but choose wisely. You have to turn In the phone with their insurance so if it gets lost or stolen you're out of luck. No deductible on the insurance tho just 10 bucks a month
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BPHusker:
I'm feeling the same way about Sprint. If I didn't have a year left on my contract, I would jump ship to Verizon even with the data caps.

Since you know Sense inside and out, maybe waiting for the HTC One would be a good bet.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] moses2303:
I agree totally that sprints service can be brutal at times, but what about value? Have you looked at Verizons plans? They are insane. Not to mention I am so used to having unlimited data I would become ocd about checking my data cap constantly to avoid overages.

I would go with best buy, I've always had a good experience from them (6 phones), sometimes it can be a wait though. But really that's no different than a corporate store. Wirefly.com has good deals sometimes too.

Amoled screens get the thumbs down from me as well. Easiest way to compare is to load up something that has a totally white background on both phones then put them side by side. That blue-green tint is not cool. They don't seem to be as bright either. I really wish Samsung would switch to better materials too, the plastic feel of it deters me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] maxpower7:
To me, paying a little less every month in exchange for a borderline-unusable network is not "value." Verizon is really expensive, but their network is also really fast and really reliable. 2 gigs of data sucks, but I use wifi when I'm at home (which is a lot because I work from home). I couldn't burn through 2 gigs in a month using Sprint's godawful 3g network if I tried.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Osirus71:
Ive bought all my phones from Best Buy and have never had an issue. Also, if there is some kind of rebate the phone carriers are having with their phones, Best Buy will have that price without having to do the mail in rebate thing.....Also, I get my insurance from them as well for my phone. Its cheaper then the carriers price and I pay a ZERO deductible if my phone has to be replaced for ANY reason. No questions asked....And they will hook you up with a loaner for free in case you have to wait on a new phone replacement....

Word.......:good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BiG JeW:
Mikey,

Im having a weird issue and I don't know why its happening. This first happened on the new base. I was fine after the new base for about 2 weeks and then my phone went to 1x and stayed on 1x. I wanted to see if it was just my area or not and it happened while I was at work (where theres always 3g and sometimes 4g).. That day i said I would wait till I got home to try and troubleshoot the issue. I also drove through 2 county's in south florida and was still stuck on 1x. (these are metropolitan areas in Miami 3g always). I did some research and noticed I was on an older baseband. I went back to stock and updated the baseband and reflashed your ROM. Again, after only 6 days or so I'm stuck on 1x, I know it's not my location as I am stuck on 1x no matter where I go. Any help is appreciated from any member that has encountered this issue. Thanks in advance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Fat Tone:
Appreciate the help. I am having a problem upgrading baseband. No image or wrong image in bootloader. A link to how to upgrade my radios would be greatly appreciated.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] commonplace:
Stupid question: How do I check my touchpanel firmware version? I can't remember if I flashed the 3.16 touchpanel firmware or not, and I'm thinking about trying a non-3.16 ROM (like CM 10.1). Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Game619:
i used to have this problem, make sure the PJ75IMG.zip image file is on the exterior sd card aka the actual sd memory card, it was a noob mistake i was doing as well lmao
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kmyerslp:
Commonplace, just flash the old touch panel firmware. Better safe than sorry,wont break anything, and takes less time than waiting for an answer on here.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mobilecj:
Do we have s2w yet?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thecarp1975:
Check out the ElementalX thread. The newest version (3.1) has it. Exceptional battery life too.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tootseroel:
Does it break anything?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Verdammt:
I haven't noticed anything broken yet, but I only flashed t yesterday.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] couragedragon:
That's brutal man, a phone you can't use, and more importantly, a phone your loved ones can't use in an emergency would definitely be a deal breaker for me.

I also admire your integrity for not roaming, but Sprint is clearly not holding up their end of the contract for you. Food for thought. (Honestly, I hope you stay with both for obvious reasons. :) )

Some things that came to mind for me as I read your idea (take it with a grain of salt as I'm not "active" in the developer community):

1) Wouldn't adopting a year old popular phone be difficult to gain ROM adoption from current users, at least when compared with a new device? I know personally, I don't even go into any other ROM threads once I choose your ROM. Furthermore, once I start donating to a developer of a ROM, I sort of feel "locked in". I'd imagine most users of the SIII have settled into a preferred ROM whereas on a new device you'd at least have equal opportunity from the start.

2) It seems like with several new device announcements, even if you decide to go with an older device, the price of the device will drop by an order of magnitude after launch. You also might be able to find a beat up one for super cheap on ebay to start digging into Touchwiz immediately.

3) Device price wise, all things being equal, you might want to see where you can get the best rate for your plan (check out slickdeals and search for the hidden and unadvertised plans on the carrier). Spending $100 more for the device, but saving $10 a month on a plan nets you +$140 over a 2yr contract for instance.

4) I'd imagine the user base for the SIII/SIV vs Note is significantly different.

Personally, I can't stand AMOLED or pentile screens and I'm really spoiled by the brightness and quality of the EVO LTE screen. I'm in Florida as well and you know the sun here is piercingly bright. I can use my phone in full sunlight with my sunglasses on, where as with my friends SIII, it's a pain in the ass to see outdoors and I have to shield it to see it. I also use my phone in a car dock so visibility with my sunglasses really is huge factor for me. Go figure.

Having said that, I'm probably going to get the Note 8 unless another 8" tab comes out from another vendor. (not to replace my LTE EVO of course)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sslbaron:
FYI, Best Buy did away with their buy back deal. I thought it was a good thing, but I'm thinking they were losing too much money with it. If you bought it in the past, you're good. They just don't offer it anymore if you get a new phone.

Mike, I've bought my last 3 phones with Best Buy, and I haven't had any issues with them so far. I use their black tie service because there's no deductible. I only had to use it once so far, and the replacement phone I received was in top notch condition.

I believe your best bet is to shop around around and see who is running the better deal at the time. I've been able to save around $100-200 every time over the Sprint and Verizon stores by doing this.

Good luck :)

Sent from my EVO LTE rolling with Blues and Jazz!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] maxpower7:
It's amazing how spoiled I am by the screen on this phone. People say that you can't tell a pentile display from a non-pentile display at densities above 300 ppi, but I beg to differ. On something like the GS3 or RAZR HD, I can see the pentile jaggies right away, and it drives me nuts. The color accuracy on this phone is also so much better than AMOLED. There's just no comparison.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sslbaron:
^^+1. I have to agree with you. I can't stand seeing the pixels on the other screens. The screen on the LTE is so much clearer. :thumbup:

Sent from my EVO LTE rolling with Blues and Jazz!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] BiG JeW:
Just thought id bump this. I haven't seeen anyone comment on this and its really driving me nuts. Second day stuck on 1x.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gianmarco00:
Mikey,

Any chance of getting S2W incorporated here now with kernel source out and it seems it's already been developed? Only thing missing from this ROM, IMO.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] moses2303:
Maybe try this. Specifically the FAQ at the bottom of the first post.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2137826

[Guide] EPST and programming your phone, no data, stuck on 1x help, tips and tricks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mikeyxda:
I cannot disagree. I can see the difference and this was my only real reason for choosing the ELTE over the GS3. That said, for whatever reason, I find the display on the Note II better than the GS3. You'd think it would be worse since the Note has lower pixel density so I'm not sure why it looks better. Maybe it's just brighter? And maybe it's my old-man-eyes but the size of the Note II is just about optimal for me since it still (barely) fits in my back pocket.

Last night I was at my son's baseball game and I have to say both my phone and my daughter's phone are unusable in this area now unless you force roaming. They both showed zero bars, sometimes one bar, and it kept toggling between 1x and NO data connection (no icon) and this is in a highly populated/popular area. As soon as I forced roaming, the meter pegged and I got 3G. So my conclusion is I have to do something. So I'm going to get (most likely) a Note II on Verizon and I'm going to set my daughter's ELTE to roam only and just leave it on that indefinitely. That is the ONLY way she can use the phone: and this is down in a heavily populated area (not the burbs). I'm divorced so it is important that she be able to contact either parent when needed since, at 12, she goes places in the local area with friends. I figure if Sprint doesn't like the fact that she's roaming, they can cancel the contract. If not (she may never exceed the 300MB roaming data cap), at least the phone will work.

By choosing Samsung, I'm admittedly choosing an inferior screen, but to me, it'd not such a huge difference as to be a deal breaker. My reasons for deciding against another HTC device are:

HTC dumlock and the hoops you have to jump through to get s-off

Inability of HTC to release source in a timely fashion

HTC releasing increasingly buggy software (don't know if Touchwiz will be better than Sense but I guess I'll find out)

Samsung having removable battery: all HTC devices now going to non-removable battery

Samsung having micro SD card slot: looks like HTC is moving toward internal memory only (look at the DNA and upcoming HTC One)

Mike
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Nooblube:
You just said all the same reasons im not getting another HTC device.. To a T!! Gonna try sammy out next upgrade..Im still loving my evo LTE but next phone will deff be a Samsung
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AndrasLOHF:
Man I just wish Samsung would steal HTC's phone design team. IMO HTC still makes the best looking phones that fell well made(I never use cases). Samsung's products just look and feel like toys in my hand.