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[Nexus 10 Accessories] SplicedX:
mine arrived yesterday as well! it wasn't supposed to arrive until at least the 10th, so it was a very nice surprise and it works flawlessly. Excellent fit and finish too.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Throwing this question out there again :p This is what will pretty much decide if I'll buy this cable or not.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Going to the gym and then eating dinner but will test this later tonight and post my results in regard to charging faster than draining.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] bigdog2k7:
Details about your shipment

Transaction ID: ****-****-****-****

Hello ***********,

towncommunication added shipping details. Please note that the tracking information and shipping status are shown exactly as the seller entered them.

Shipper	Korea Post

Tracking number	KK*******91KR

Shipping status	Shipped

If you have questions about the shipment, please contact towncomm@naver.com

Seller

towncommunication

towncomm@naver.com

Pogocable site is legit, just got this from PayPal :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
Damn I'm jealous. I'm in NY too and I have not got it yet.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Tesla67:
Lol all I want to know now is if it charges (a lot) better than USB will be much more likely to get it!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] SplicedX:
I just did a quick test with my POGO charger. I hooked the POGO charger up when my tablet hit 75%. In one hour, it charged to 99%.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
I just did about an hour of streaming 720p video (avi) from my NAS using software decoding at full brightness and it did not lose a percent. Haven't had a chance to play a game yet, but when I do I'll post my results.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
So it did not charge just kept the battery at the same amount while you were watching.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] bigdog2k7:
It does charge better than the usb for a number of reasons (not necessarily speed).

1. Can't damage your micro port.

2. Can utilize OTG while charging

3. Don't have to worry about tripping over the cable or having the cable pull the tablet off your desk/table.

I'm just excited to get mine so I can load all my games/docs/movies/music/pictures/apps on an external HD and not have to worry about my tablet dying on me while I use it at work/school :D
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Battery was at 100% so it had no where to go. However, I've drained the battery a little and I'll test it out.

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Oh and perhaps someone could tell me whether streaming a 720p avi using software decoding on full brightness is roughly (I'm not looking for exact) equivalent to playing a game. The only real big game I have is Spiderman but I don't have the time to play but I can let my tablet run a video for a while.

Edit: Now streaming 1080p mkv using hardware decoding

Edit 2: Streaming noted above, charging noticeably slower (obviously) but still overall net gain on battery. I have to say I really like this cable, plus the magnets are great, you just get the POGO charger in the vicinity and it's connected. Definitely better than fumbling with a micro USB. That's my two cents.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
Which one ?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] edd666999:
Still awaiting delivery of my nexus 10 but I just ordered one of these. £16 delivered to the UK.

Also have a OTG cable in my amazon basket while I decide on a case!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] siviog1:
Ordered one today hopefully it comes in a few weeks... Has anyone considered dissecting the cable to try to get audio out as well. I doubt all pins are used for charging only, I may be incorrect on that though?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] allenlin:
That's the same reason that I bought this cable, just received it yesterday. :D
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Royal2000H:
If you could rerun the same test (same movie, same decoding, same app, same brightness) while connected to the micro USB charger instead of the pogo charger, and see if the battery goes down or up, then we'll have pretty good (somewhat scientific) results!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dalingrin:
It was already determined prior to the pogo even shipping that it will not charge much, if at all, faster than microusb. Both max out at ~2A. The two cables should be with +/- 10% of each other.

It would be far more useful for someone to just report the current from:

"cat /sys/kernel/debug/android-power"
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
l=91 v=4206 c=1202 temp=25.7 h=1 st=1 ct=47 type=ac
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
The one from 3C.

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Just use the Battery Monitor Widget from 3C, you can set the interval down to one minute. I guess that I=91 is current but how do you tell if that is charge or discharge? Is that 91A, 9.1A or 0.91A? The BMW will do that for you.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] skally:
Max current going in to the Nexus I have seen with the Pogo cable is 1960mA. That was with flight mode on, screen off and freshly booted from dead battery.

Max current I have seen the Nexus use is 2930mA. That was running Asphalt 7 on full brightness.

I see there being a deficit of 1Ah, meaning on full brightness, playing a game, it will last 9 hours. Even when plugged in
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
the I=91 was the percent of the battery, I'm assuming "v" was voltage in millivolts and c = current I guess. Perhaps, whomever requested the data actually knows what all the variables mean.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
A quick check of /sys shows that there is a smb347 charge controller, and it's set to 2A max:

~ $ f=/sys/class/power_supply/smb347-mains/current_max ; ls -l "$f"; cat "$f"

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 9 10:10 /sys/class/power_supply/smb347-mains/current_max

2000000

~ $

But quickly Googling the part says it can do 2.5A. Not sure why Google/Samsung has limited it to 2A, there may be a good reason. If not, getting another 25% should be doable on a rooted device. Don't plan to try it myself.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] demusss:
That means the charging current u have is only 1202mA which is lower than what I get with the USB.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Ah! That's right, my bad.

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Is that measured with a meter or using an app?

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Is that a typo, 2000000? At max of 2A would be 2000ma.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
That's because it's at 91% charged, so has slowed down. You need to measure at a much lower charge level.

Also, the 2000000 is not a typo, it was copied and pasted. The unit is just microamps instead of milliamps.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
That's true, the charge changes from constant current to constant voltage at 4.2V. Ah, microamps!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dalingrin:
C is current in milliamps. This is the current at the battery so it includes power draw from the rest of the tablet.(that's why its not the 2A most would expect)

Plug in the microusb and check the current, then plug in the pogo cable and check the current. Then subtract the two.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Similiar to the moderm gas vehicle, power is drawn from the battery, it's replaced by the charger which is supplied by the 2A power supply or AC wall unit.

I don't have my POGO charger yet but noone has compared the USB and POGO charging rate at below a battery voltage of 4.2V to show the real maximum difference. It's been mentioned that the charging circuit is maxed at 2.0A, so anyone that's getting a larger PS isn't going to gain anything.

In Ohm's Law, I=current, V=volts and R=resistance.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] demusss:
Just need someone to install battery monitor widget.

Then with battery somewhere below 50% charge with usb for at least half an hour with screen off then swop to pogo for half an hour.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] skally:
It's already been done. USB is around 1.6A, POGO is around 1.9A
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Anyone care to test this at all?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Tested, doesn't drain streaming 1080p mkv on full brightness. In fact I netted 2% in like 20 minutes. Posted this last night.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dalingrin:
Where? Have a link?

I've speculated this but I haven't seen anyone actually test it.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Oops, might not of seen your reply then, but in any case, thanks :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
Is it possible charging with the pogo is somehow better charging for the battery than the USB.

I swear my battery is lasting longer than it did on a USB charge. I would just have on wifi and surf and my battery would quickly discharge in 15 min to a half hour (I don't have actual stats).

But unless I am wanting things to be "better" cause of the pogo cable, my charge doesn't drain nearly as fast as it did after a USB charge and it is always an overnight charge. Is this even possible ?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
The pogo cable could perhaps introduce "cleaner" power, but really I have no idea lol.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] demusss:
If its discharging from 100% to empty in half an hour then you've got problems.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] skally:
This post has links to topics containing discussions on the subject...

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I'm only using the same battery monitor widget, but I ran asphalt for just under three solid hours on full brightness. every 30 minutes and when the battery warning for 5% came on, I quit the app and checked the value. It was always within 50mA. The numbers confirm to well within 5% of these values.

I've done three charge cycles with the POGO cable now, and all three are within tens of milliamps of eachother.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
Not empty. Just say from full charge to 91%. It seemed to discharge in that short amount of time quickly, now I go an hour and not nearly is gone when I charged with the USB.

Maybe I am just thinking it, but I could swear my battery doesn't discharge a small percentage nearly as quickly as it did before.

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I know it sounds dumb, but I always noticed how quickly I would lose say 5-10% in a short amount of time and it is not like that anymore. :cyclops:

:)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] case-sensitive:
Question for those of you who have received the pogo cable: How strong/stable is the pogo cable connection if

(1) the N10 is in portrait mode?

(2) the N10 is in landscape mode but up-side-down (so the pogo pins point up)? -- this would allow me to charge the N10 while it is placed in a landscape stand.

Thanks!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Extremely stable in any orientation, the magnets really lock the cable in the Nexus. I streamed for over an hour upside down (POGOs facing up) and it did not disconnect. It's definitely sturdier than the micro USB

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
I have some tablet stand I got recently, I have a feeling the Pogo cable will be too big and won't allow me to actually use the stand, unless I put the tablet in Portrait mode. Not a "significant" issue though :p
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
The trick is the pogo cable harvest zero point energy. So even if its not connected charges the device. ....very simple :eek:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
And to think some people (and even myself) said this cable was a bit expensive... but zero point energy makes up for the price :good:

lol...
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
most people did not know this insider info until today ...orders going to skyrocket now haha
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
Mine arrived today and I gave it a quick test:

Sleep mode, wifi on, bt off, oem charger, pogo cable. Battery was at 43%. After exactly 1 hour, battery was at 64%.

When it gets back down to 43%, I'll try the same but with the 3.1A charger.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Jackietreehorn:
So, I'm guessing the answer is no, but this looks great for the N10, but is there any chance it'll ever be useful for anything else in the future? There doesn't seem to be any standardization...so while seemingly better than microusb, is it going to end up being a N10 cable only? Anyone have any insight (or even guesses)?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] snow_3461:
Zero-point energy? So quantum mechanics inside a nexus 10! HAHA
[Nexus 10 Accessories] mark.m.moran:
What is zero point energy guys??

Cheers,

M
[Nexus 10 Accessories] alsex87:
arggh when is this going to be available again, only see one item on ebay now which is bid only :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] bigdog2k7:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=zero+point+energy

www.pogocable.com is where a few of us ordered them from.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Samsung could make future devices follow the pogo layout of the Nexus 10, can't see any reason why not anyway
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Yeah, it's shipped, other than that, I have no idea where it's at because I can't track it and the seller hasn't responded to my email at least.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] bigdog2k7:
My tracking info doesn't have any matches either but others were having the same issue ordering from eBay too, I'm not too worried lol
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
Did same as above this morning except with the 3.1A charger. Same exact results. 43% to 64% in exactly 1 hour.

So the 3.1A charger seemingly made no difference.

Next I'll do the 43% test with the stock cable and charger. Probably should have done that one first.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] demusss:
Youll find that using a power supply > 2A will have no difference to the stock supply.

There are some settings somewhere which restrict the current via the pogo to 2000mA.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Funny how some are able to track completely from Korea, some just it's on a plane and the rest get no results.

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It's been posted in one of these threads the actual system file code for the charger controller showing the limit in microamps.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
I did read that here, but wanted to verify it in real life. 8^)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
That was cool. Lol

I was like, it would take a few pages to explane Im not sure even if I could lol
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
How many people ordered from New York and already got they cable? Thank you!

I'm loosing my patients here. I emailed the seller and he said should be here soon.......some people states they have tracking info...

So than how come I don't have it , some people had a option to ship it express I did not see that ....
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Got mine several days ago, Long Island, NY

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] creedicd:
Just ordered mine... We'll see what happens
[Nexus 10 Accessories] sitnlow4life:
Where is the most recent place to order the pogo from ?

Thanks in advance
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
http://pogocable.com/

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They didn't even reply to my email!:(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] lse4:
I ordered mine on Christmas and still haven't received mine... I'm in New Jersey
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
When did you order. ?

Its could take 10-15 days for shipping was stated at eBay store.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
So I did the same 43% test with the stock cable and charger, Here are all of the results together:

Stock cable, stock charger: 43% to 60% in 1 hour.

Pogo cable, stock charger: 43% to 64% in 1 hour.

Pogo cable, 3.1A charger: 43% to 64% in 1 hour.

Take from that what you will. Personally, even if the Pogo cable didn't offer any gain in charging speed, it's still worth it to me. I read e-books on the N10 in bed at night and when I get sleepy and put it down it's much easier to snap on the Pogo connector than it is to maneuver the micro-usb connector into its little jack. Not to mention safer if it's dropped.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Ordered on 1/7/13 from their site, shipped the next day.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] plastikowl:
Sit back and wait. I ordered on the 25th, it shipped on Dec 31, was handed to the air carrier on the 4th. I am still waiting for mine.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Ordered mine at 12PM (EST) yesterday on their site, still pending.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] distortion:
Same here. Melbourne FL.

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What are good power supply chargers to use with the pogo cable?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Me thinks they have a shipping problem! :p
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Kroenen66:
Same here....Germany
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Same here in St. Louis, Mo. At least I am not alone. I wish I understood the process better. Seeing the tracking say "handed over to air carrier" for a week is driving me a little nuts.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] plastikowl:
I think it's a matter of the air carrier. Just because they have it, doesn't mean it's on a plane yet. I've ordered stuff from Hong Kong and it takes forever too. By the time that stuff ever gets here, I've typically forgotten that I ever ordered it. I just got something today I ordered on Christmas via Amazon. Just give it time.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Some track and see it all, some see one event like you, the rest see nothing like me.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
If you live in the US try taking the tracking number and track it through usps.com it'll likely show up there because the foreign carrier hands it off to the post office once it gets to the US.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
Hi

I just did that. And the status has changed to araival at unit. So it should be here. Today or monday

Thanks for that!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Been there, tried that before, just now and still can't find the number. Maybe mine was shipped by boat instead of air?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
My status also changed to arrival at local post office within the last couple of hours! At first I thought it would show up on the west coast in our postal system and then I would have to watch it progress to my city.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
I don't think it'd ever ship by sea. If it's the same guy, I can't imagine that he'd ship it differently. Also, don't discount customs and their ineptitude. I had a sweatshirt from England ship to NY and it spent 13 days in customs. I get a bunch of things shipped from overseas and it's completely random as to which ones will get held up in customs.

Keep waiting, the seller is totally legit (believe me, I'm not just a shill for him). You'll get your cable, and once you do, it'll be awesome :D
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
So I am happy to report l received my package; however, it only had one POGO cable in it. I paid for two and the package label even says "2 Qty" on it. Time to e-mail the seller.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Others have received a response by email from the seller but I didn't. Hope that you have better luck.

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I was joking about shipping by sea!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
I'll give him a couple business days to respond before opening a case in ebay.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] OldGaf:
I ordered one from their website yesterday.... I could only find one on eBay and they wanted $50.00 before shipping!!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
Today i got my registered mail notice in my mail box, now I have to wait till Monday to pick it up , at least is here finally!!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Your the first to get a registered mail delivery for the POGO cable, I wonder why?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Mine was registered as well
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Mine was also registered. Anyone order more than 1 on ebay and get them?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jtown:
I'm still waiting for mine and it was also sent registered mail. It's been sitting at "Handed over to Air carrier" in Incheon since 1/4. USPS has it listed as Origin Post is Preparing Shipment and Features: Registered Mail(tm). Typical shipment times for non-registered stuff from HK tends to be 10-14 days in my experience so I'm not going to be worried unless it's still MIA next weekend.

I hate it when overseas shippers do that with these inexpensive items. I don't think they understand the hassle it creates for carriers. In the US, each piece of registered mail has to be individually signed for by each person who touches it and locked in a secure location when not actively being moved and that extends delivery times significantly. I'm sure there's a similar increase in handling time on the HK end because of the shipping method. It's for shipping insured stuff worth thousands, not $20 cables.

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Not sure why I kept saying Hong Kong when it shipped from Korea. I guess because I get more stuff shipped from HK.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] distortion:
Sounds like this guy needs to get established with a US distributor...
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
Yes it just create a problem for us to go to post office and sing for it. Like waiting for it was a pain already now this ...

I have ordered stuff from China and was not registered...

This pogo cable seller must find a way to sell it from other countrys than only comeing from Korea if he wants to make this to sell...

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You bit me on that one! Lol
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Did the registered mail receivers order from the website or the eBay listing? The site states airmail standard shipping. Paypal states flat rate shipping.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Nitemare3219:
Got mine today via registered mail and ordered on eBay. Definitely charges faster as I can now use the tablet at full brightness, and it charges instead of draining like the USB did. Good enough for me! Only complaint is the cable length and trying to use it with my case/stand since the connection is at the bottom.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Turning it 180 deg won't work?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Ordered from eBay. My tracking said handed over to air carrier on 1/4 and no further tracking updates occurred until it was at my local post office and delivered later that day. Lucky I was home since a signature was required.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Nitemare3219:
While it would work, I'd have to insert and remove it from the case frequently as I Skype daily. I'm not certain as I haven't tried, but I'm assuming that the camera would be too close to whatever surface the tablet is resting on for that to be a viable position.

And I'm almost sure the device would compensate for it, but I suppose there is a chance my camera could be displayed upside down on Skype as well.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] demusss:
How long is the cable?

Do you have a USB extension cable to try and see if you get the full current? I have tried a USB extension with stock PSU and USB and only get around 550mA instead of the usual 1500mA
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
You know now that it was sent by register mail but did you know that when you ordered it? I know that FedEx requires a signature for anything over $500 which can be a PITA. On the other hand a iPhone delivered to my home for a friend, AT&T said someone has to be home to sign and FedEx just left it! :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
My case didn't have an opening for it either, so I just did a little surgery on it with an exacto knife. Done and done.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] ja3hawk:
So.. Is this cable selling anywhere else? I saw one seller on ebay who had it going for auction and it was up to like 60 bucks
[Nexus 10 Accessories] richB7:
Pogocable.com