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[Nexus 7 General] BlackFire27:
Well I've got a fairly bulky case lol
[AT&T LG Optimus G] derrickonline:
So I bought the Optimus G, LOVED IT. But couldn't help be tempted by the Nexus 4 which I managed to get ordered in the first round of madness. After using the Nexus 4 for a few weeks, I regretted selling my Optimus G, now I've sold the Nexus 4 and bought another Optimus G. I know I know crazy right.

Anyone trying to decide?

- The Optimus G feels faster than the Nexus 4.

- The HSPA+ which I thought wouldn't be so much of a deal breaker was actually pretty painful. I also got poor reception, dropped calls, and frequently missed calls which I can only attribute to a signal issue, and that I believe somehow related to not having LTE. I can't put my finger on it, but I tried various APNs and still missed calls frequently, and I was getting roughly 1-2Mbps on HSPA+ Never had that issue with any other phone including the Optimus G.

- Battery life on the Optimus G was WAY better than the Nexus 4. This could also be related to the whole aforementioned signal issues I was having causing my battery to drain quickly. But I was very disappointed with battery life.

- Nexus 4 felt thicker.

- Nexus 4 on screen buttons don't hide in any app other than YouTube taking up precious screen real estate.

Jelly Bean while nice is a bit over-rated. Photospere was cool and it worked flawlessly, but how often are we going to use it? It requires an Android phone or Google+ to view. Google Now I was expecting more from it. A little disappointed. Wireless charging on the Nexus 4 was very convenient. You never had to fiddle with the power cord in the middle of the night etc.

So back to the Optimus G I go. I'm surprised this phone isn't getting much publicity. I suspect it's because LG shot themselves in the foot by selling sub par products in the past, locked bootloaders, and failure to update their phones.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
Thanks for the update very informative
[AT&T LG Optimus G] NadeemMemon:
Is optimus G display is wider in width then Galaxy S3 and Nexus 4 , i need wider dsiplay in 4.7 inch space plz reply, i have htc one x it is not wider it is taller. I am asking about only display width not total phone width with bezel and how is the speaker quality is it louder?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] derrickonline:
Actually the Optimus G feels WIDER and THINNER. But when I place them together, oddly enough the Nexus 4 just feels a hair thicker. I really think the rounded edges of the Nexus 4 make it feel smaller in width, but thicker in general.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] NadeemMemon:
I am asking about actual display field width, which is available for use,Plz reply i have to make order via online becuse it is not available in pakistan thats why i cant compare the size. Wider screen is useful for web browsing in portrait mode and I need wider screen in just 4.7 inch phone.plz tell me between Optimus G and Nexus 4, which one has the wider display.and which phone has the loud sound through speaker? Thankx
[AT&T LG Optimus G] derrickonline:
Optimus G more viewing space on screen. As far as speakers both are identical.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] manee:
Its available in Pakistan, i am currently using optimus G, it is wider than S3 and One x. S3 screen a bit taller but this is by far the widest phone just like sensation xl
[AT&T LG Optimus G] antheezy:
<3 it

Yeah For me the HSPA+ was a dealbreaker. I love my Optimus G. I worked cell phones before and always gave LG a second thought because of its direction and lack of attention to customers. I now have faith in LG that they can really turn it around with their elegant design being a huge determining factor. Jellybean is extremely overrated but with project butter being such an improvement on many phones especially the s3, and the optimus g being a powerhouse I wonder how better it will be! Transitions and all the Ui graphics are extremely fast and the touchscreen is super good/sensitive with the Ui being optimized on JB can be the cherry on top! I feel like if LG really wants to capitalize on the LGOG they can add a premium suite to the optimus g kind of like what samsung is doing. Other than that I love everything about my phone.

My minor gripe is of course the glass being both front and back and idea of cold vs hot touching the back. Im afraid of waking up one day and finding my back of my phone cracked. Ever since I installed an invisible shield front and back I have a peace of mind but damn I hope it can endure a drop if that ever happens one day.

Im sure the phone will strengthen through word of mouth and the awesome niche of Optimus G owners there are. I just havent seen many tech sites featuring it as well as it should.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Lol this glass isn't going to take a drop and come out unscathed.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] fmllc:
S3....+n4....+og.....-n4-og=s3!!!

Well as the title suggessts....had the S3 since launch...got an N4, got an OG and since the N4 has been sold on CL and the OG is up for sale as well and I'm back on my S3. Bottom line....it is an incredible device with great specs, but it lacks what the S3 was finally able to bring to the android community! That was the major hurdle faced with Android phones over crapple in the past. They always had better machines but the user experience was just better on an inferior machine! That's how I feel the OG is at it's current state! I guess the best way to describe it...is the phone is blazing fast but it's jumpy....not fluid....and if you come from the S3, even with ICS (JB there's no comparison) it's just not there yet...not to mention all the issues you face if you plug it in to the charger lol....anyhow this is my 2 cents...
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
I'm on the fence although I agree with you on the SGS3 but I don't think the G is that bad I think it just needs JB to make it awesome

from my Nexus7 while my Optimus rests
[AT&T LG Optimus G] samomamo:
I had all the phones GN2, GS3, Htc one x+ and the Galaxy Nexus, the best device so far is the Optimus G, ICS is fast JB is over hyped its the same as ICS. This is the fastest phone right now and the BEST.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] LordNerble:
Im thinking the same thing.

I originally had the optimus g for att, then i found i good deal on eBay for the nexus 4, now im heavily considering which phone i should keep. i feel the nexus 4 has a way better/ easier feel/experience compared to the OpG. Battery life is still hard to tell but in my limited experience i think the optimus g at least for me has the worse battery life compared to my previous phones. the LTE over 4g is a real kicker thought and after using lte for only 2 weeks i already miss it. Initially i was all for the OpG, but when i found out otter box only made a case for the Sprint version i was furious. Ive actually started thinking about just keeping both for a month or two, and seeing which one i can get to work to my standards in both speed and battery life. If you guys have any recommendations for prolonging battery use let me know, ive already spotted a couple threads related to the matter.

also just throwing it out there for the nexus 4 "lte Chip" usage, i live in Chicago where areas reportedly might use band 4 of lte, and i didn't get jack diddles. too bad the Nexus didn't have Lte option for like another 100. would definitional keep me on the lg Google train.

Also I do have to say the notification light on the nexus is a much better choice compared to the OpG power button light, seeing as most cases will cover up or severely diminish the usefulness of it.

sorry for rambling. these are just my thoughts as they come to me.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] 903tex:
Since picking the phone up and playing with it for over three hours. I have not once thought about it having ics cause everything is so smooth!! Even the best buy rep said the phone is fast! She was like" dang maybe I should have gotten this instead of my gs3."

From typing, to opening apps, to browsing the web. I have not gotten this phone to lag or stutter once. Most of my phone decisions have been over" does the device have any development" This is truly the first phone that I DONT even want to root or flash anything to it.....for now. I'm content with the phone and to me it's a BIG underdog. No offense to the gs3 cause it think it's a great device. But it has nothing on the OG. And I haved ALOT of android devices!
[AT&T LG Optimus G] iiDeadSeriousii:
By extreme luck I've ended up with a Nexus 4, a One X+, and the OG. The N4 is my daily driver and at first I was using the OG as a backup but now I'm using the One X+. It has a bigger dev community and gets a bad rep for running hot or using a Tegra 3 chip. I don't think anything can dethrone my Nexus 4 as my daily driver due to it having amazing dev support. The One X+ I mainly use for battery heavy tasks like YouTube and keeping up with my news and sports.

Nexus 4 - Untouchable developer community (that's what we're all here for right?)

One X+ - Absolutely gorgeous screen and great feel in hand. Also best camera of the three.

OG - It is indisputably the fastest of the three at stock. But lack of development and that awkward wide shape the AT&T version employed has it in the box either waiting for me to sell it or seeing if it can catch up in development. Probably leaning towards the former.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] izbrian:
I have a Nexus 4 as well and use it on at&t and love how smooth it is compared to my last device the GS3 but I'm thinking of trading it for the the at&t OG because the onlly way the Nexus 4 has great battery is if you switch to 2G/edge but its pointless because with those speeds its too slow to use really
[AT&T LG Optimus G] maddog497:
It is difficult to explain to someone how the OG feels more premium than the N4! Although they are almost twins, the OG is way superior. In feel, display and most certainly, battery life.

If LG would only open the bootloader and the source code, this would be the top dog out there for rom extremist.

Just my 2 cents.

The N4 is a great device especially for the price, but I haven't missed it yet.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
With project freegee we have an unlocked boot loader.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] maddog497:
Yes, I understand that and that is great. It is really appreciated all the work that was done to achieve this. It would be nice if Lg would have offered this up on it's own thou.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Murasakiii:
What does it matter since our devs unlocked it themselves? Still not seeing your logic.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Maddog, you need to realize something. LG has nothing to do with the bootloader policy. That is a carrier specific thing, and att told them to lock and and LG responded by making the crappiest bootloader lock ever. Give credit where credit is due.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Not true. The SGS3 on att has unlocked bl. So do all of sprint's phones minus the og. Every OG variant is locked worldwide. It's the manufacturer. There are times when it is the carrier, like Verizon Samsung phones, but this seems to be LG.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] *Omnipresent*:
In your opinion, what is the motivation to lock a cellphone's bootloader? To protect proprietary LG software from being shared and ported to other devices? Or in this case, is LG being coerced by the carriers? What's in it for them? Some form control and or profit I assume.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
In the manufacturer's eyes, less freedom means less money spent on repairs. They believe that custom roms lead to more bricks, which leads to more money spent from them on repairing (which is true). However, it means less buyers also, so that point I would say is moot. If this bootloader was not unlockable, I would not have bought it, nor would many other people.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
I agree, although this phone has at the current moment the best hardware specs on the market. If it had a locked boot loader I would have gone with a different phone.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Xboxfanj, you're a recognized developer and as such I'm kinda horrified that you asked me that. Samsung is the juggernaut in comparison to lg, and this is why they were able to tell att to eat a d*** when they told them to lock the bl or change the physical dimensions. LG is beholden to carrier whims here in the 'states. It's way easier to get your phone subsidized by a carrier when the phone is locked down. Samsung is the exception to the rule by means of being enormously popular.

Sent from my LG-E970 using a premium
[AT&T LG Optimus G] maddog497:
Not trying to drag this out but I am not sure what you mean by "give credit where credit is do"??????

I am totally thankful for the work that was done to unlock the bootloader and that we have root. Hopefully no one read that I was not. I am not so thankful that LG has locked this down (and all their other phones) and as a result we have no custom roms........yet. I wish they were more open like HTC was and how Samsung is now.

Anyways, this is a great phone and would only be better is we could get some custom roms on it. I'm sure all the devs are working hard and we will in do time.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
Yes the lack of Dev and Roms is really pushing my patience on this device. The hardware is great but the lack of support and software is sad

Sent from my Nexus 7
[AT&T LG Optimus G] 2015Ducatimulti:
yeah I bought it first thing when it came out loved it, then I ended up selling it and then get the nexus 4 got bored with that to then sold it and bought a Galaxy S3 again and here I am again trying to sell my GS3 to buy a LOG again, I can`t make my mine up lol, but I do wish now that I would have keep my LOG:(
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
I miss my SGS3 not that I don't like this G a lot I do but there are things that I miss a lot on the SGS3

Sent from my Nexus 7
[AT&T LG Optimus G] jimi_pooh:
I would be interested in what you miss about the SGS3. I had one and returned it after a week. I thought the construction wasn't up to par for a phone that has street value over $200. I was even running a jelly based ROM and it was slower than the stock OG. I will admit I too wish there was more development on this device but I also appreciate a well made phone. I had major problems with the power button on the SGS3 and the back cover was way too cheap ( I know must Sammys are that way ). There are some options that I do miss from the various ports and custom ROMS on other devices. Only time will tell....
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
SGS3 better camera, better software, better updates, better Dev community. Touch wiz had a lot of nice features and that added a lot to the experience. The G has beautiful hardware but it is less pocketable than the SGS3 because its a bit wider and much heavier.

The Dev community for this phone will never even get close to that of samsungs ever. Its basically at a stand still we will be lucky to get a hand full of Roms on here. As much as I like this phone when my upgrade in may arrives I'm most probably out

Sent from my Nexus 7
[AT&T LG Optimus G] LNJ:
Coming from the Galaxy Nexus running 4.2.1, I have no regrets...

I was never happy with the GNEX partially cause it was ugly, blah screen and on screen keys plus it always chocked when multitasking unlike my SGS2 i9100.

At least with the SGS2, the roms were varied and the phone design itself was beautiful. Sensation being the most gorgeous. The Exynos was a trooper in multitasking and I/O.

The GNEX roms all looked the same and AOSP looks so blah!

Now the OG is just plain beautiful hardware and software wise. Man the LG's UI is gorgeous. I haven't even thought of using a different launcher.

I don't miss anything from Jelly Bean except for the proper implementation of Google Now and the expandable notifications.

Plus I wish Light Flow will work to customize the LEDs.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
Those are three of the things I miss from jellybean I also miss the better notification light on the SGS3 the G has a finicky one and in an awkward location.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[AT&T LG Optimus G] scott.ragan:
OG user here. Have to say this is by far the sexiest phone I've ever used. Thin beyond compare. The size of the phone takes a little getting used to but after awhile you appreciate it. Its blazing fast. Like stupid fast. The camera is amazing (13mg camera here thou as I'm on sprint). Coming from my nexus phone this thing hands down takes the cake. And 10mg+ download speeds even on sprints crappy network here in kansas is just amazing.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Dsmforlife92:
I know the development won't be as big as other phones but I'm very happy with this phone I own a galaxy nexus and gs3 and the G is my favorite so far just because of the power of this phone. Galaxy nexus great development but there are 20 of the same roms over and over. Gs3 is not fast people say and feels so cheap but has awesome camera. I think once someone figures out how to port Roms from nexus 4 we will be set!!'
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
I got something in the works and maybe by the beginning of next week may have a nexus 4 .....
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Dsmforlife92:
Sweet I just hope you stick around once you get the Nexus!! It seems a lot of people are leaving to the nexus 4
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
If I end up keeping my G then yes for sure if not I will def check in. I already got an offer for my G 220 dollars so not a bad deal as I paid 99
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Dsmforlife92:
Keep it we need more devs here
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
If I do keep it I will definitely do some work as of now I'm 50/50

sent from my Optimus G because Optimus Prime was busy....
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
Im boxing up my N4 right now actually, while looking up how to root my new LGOG :)
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Dsmforlife92:
Sweet that's what I like to here I did the same thing. I had the n4 and sold it I like me lte and the screen for some reason on the G looks a little better then the n4
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
Literally the only thing I will miss is the cooler back glass and superior feel. While AOSP JB is great, the Lack of LTE and the massive battery drain bug make it a very lackluster experience.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
LTE is a non issue for me as were I live it doesn't reach and the battery drain bug is being addressed by Google before month is out
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
Ah yea your right, but your not far away from LTE seeing as Union Valley has it. At my home, I don't get LTE but it doesnt matter because im in WiFi anyway. Where I work the LTE is stronger than HSPA, that being said my Nexus 4 would drain double time on top of that bug. And as for the bug, I havent heard anything about a fix other than some people who were told by Google Support that it would. Google Support is very unreliable.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] yyz71:
I'd rather keep the nexus over just about any phone!! I love the development for this phone and it just gonna get better and better!! The LTE i use constantly i just edit my build prop after reboot my LTE signal us still kicking :) The only way it disappears only when flash a new ROM. Now The sound and camera mods I've found just make my nexus kickass:D that's the reason why i love the nexus phones build my own....

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
If it goes through and I get the nexus I'm gonna rock it till Google io and see what if anything pops if not I have an available upgrade if i really dislike the nexus 4 although I doubt I will
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
the sound mod is really aweome I agree. No LTE for us USA folk :(
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
I'm not stressing over the LTE my SGS3 didn't use it my G doesn't use it and for 99% of the time I have WiFi all the other things are fixable and the nexus will stay relevant for much longer
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
I still think once the driver issues are solved for our devices porting all the n4 stuff over well be easy and then we have the best of both worlds. hell I will settle for a stable cm build or aokp build.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Dsmforlife92:
+1
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
Well my N4 is arriving either Monday or Wednesday so I will do a comparo for you guys
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
You'll like the feel of the device and aosp. Fluidity is honestly the same between the two. Battery life better on optimus g.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
Very cool although a customer of mine who has his has told me that it settles in after a few charge cycles. Even though I am hearing 4.2.2 is coming by February
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
Hopefully so well we lol. Wish I could get my hands on a n4 just to compare them side by side.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
Eh, I always had crazy and random drains, but at home on wifi it was stellar. Nexus 4 would be the only choice for me if it had better battery and LTE. 2100mAh on AOSP should be like a RAZR HD's 2600mAh on a custom skin IMHO. But the Nexus 4 couldnt keep up with my wife's One X on stock bloated rom with 1800mAh.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
I will see how it rolls I will say this LTE is a non issue for me as it wont be available to me till late 2013 so by then a new nexus will arrive or the moto X phone
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
Yea, I understand I just emphasis it because my area has it (even though my home doesnt) and it really does make a difference in battery when its a good signal.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
Sure. I agree. I believe the update will fix the battery and some software tweaks to the camera etc. I think all in all I'm gonna rock this nexus at least till summer /fall I don't for see myself hating it :)
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
I want to love the n4 but being that I'm in a strong lte area I can get as much as 60mb down so losing lte was out of the question.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Cat Rancher:
Agreed. While i don't get 60mb down, i do get 20mb down and 10+ up pretty consistently.

I have been trying to figure out if I want to keep the N4 or the Optimus G for the past few weeks. The N4 feels better in my hand, and I do like features of 4.2 such as google now. Once we get 4.1 or a 100% stable rom with that feature, that may make my decision right there. I already downloaded the zip, and it killed my battery on the optimus a lot more than on the Nexus 4.

And i do like LG's skin. I think they did a pretty nice job, though this is my first android.

However, I am spoiled now on LTE. I just got it and don't want to give it up.

I may just sell the nexus since i can break even or make a few bucks and buy another one if i really get to wanting one again.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] robstunner:
I sold my N4 with bumper for $460. After paypal fees and shipping it was pretty much even. That being said, once supply normalizes for the phone, youll be able to pick up used ones for cheaper than new.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] AndreaCristiano:
I think by the time that happens buzz for the next nexus or moto X will be rampant