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[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
I originally purchased 2 cables, but only one was sent. Having sent some proof regarding the shipping weight, they were very prompt to ship the missing cable. The first one took 8 calendar days from being handed over to the air carrier. I had expected a similar time frame for the second, but it has been 14 days so far. I don't plan to contact them unless the shipment with the tracking number I received gets delivered elsewhere or it becomes obvious that the envelope was completely lost. It sure is hard to keep waiting, but I take some comfort in knowing others with similar ship dates are waiting also.

I would order one from Amazon, but I know as soon as I do, the other one will show up!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
But that means the battery gets damaged in either case right?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Magnector:
pogo cable selling on UK

Hello. I am the manufacture of this magnetic pogo cable for Nexus 10 (product name: Magnector N10) in South Korea.

We started to sell this item in UK via Ebay UK. (Amazon UK shortly)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nexus-10-Pogo-Charging-Cable-/181072309277

The shipping will be made in London, UK for orders from all European nation.

Thanks for the kind interest on this product.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
From what I've read, it's not following the proper porcedure for charging a Li-Ion battery or cell and going past 4.3V causes what they call plating which damages the battery. It supposed to charge in constant current till 4.2V where it goes into constant voltage at which time the cell sort-of absorbs the charge at a much lower rate. It can't be any good not to do that! There are some pictures of a N10 tear down showing the battery. I can't read Japanese but there is a 4.3V value written right on it and I "assume" that's the max voltage.

Right now, I do know for sure that putting it in sleep mode(screen OFF) for charging, it appears to charge the battery as it should and stops before reaching 4.3V. I have a screen captures of BMWP to prove that point.

I have a few more things to look at and compare before I state that the same can be said for charging completely OFF.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
So... is this cable technically "not safe" to be using under normal circumstances or something?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] mark.m.moran:
How much does shipping to Ireland cost mate??
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
That's nothing to do with the POGO cable because the point about the 4.2V and 4.3V happens also while charging with micro-USB.

Right now if you want to be real cautious, charge only in sleep mode. Just real odd that the charging doesn't work the same with the screen OFF as it does with the screen ON.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Satoki100:
Hey!

I ordered from your site but still have'nt received any tracking information or any information about my order whatsoever. I have also e-mailed all the e-mail adresses posted in this thread for several days and still no answer. I'd appreciate if you could contact me via PM.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Got a response:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] plastikowl:
My first one took almost a month. Folks need to calm down when it's only been a week. You won't see any shipping updates until it physically hits your city.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
With USPS normally, I'd get updates when it gets to other post offices, departures, and when it's out for delivery. Even the (few) items I tracked that didn't update this often at least notified me when it got to the US (I mean it's very well possible the Pogo cable didn't reach the US yet, but I really don't know what would cause it not to by now)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tyrahn:
Unless someone knows something not posted in a thread here that I've read, I don't think we can say for certain if HDMI over POGO is possible. The POGO pin-out thread hasn't identified any of the data connections so unless there's reference in the kernel somewhere I don't know how we'd know.

Though, it doesn't look like the Nexus 7 dock as HDMI out, so that could be an indication.

Clark
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
I think the Nexus 7 has four POGO pins and being that the Nexus 10 is definitely designed for media, it's possible those two extra pins might do video. I'm just speculating/hoping.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jtown:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

I haven't laughed that hard in ages. My Galaxy Neuxus from Verizon still has precisely zero pogo accessories from Samsung or Google. I got it the day it was released so it's been a year now. Best I can do is buy the car mount for the GSM version and carve it out to fit. It's like they'd both prefer to pretend the LTE Galaxy Nexus doesn't exist.

Don't hold your breath waiting for an official part from Samsung or Google. They might make something they might not. Either way, it'll certainly cost $20 or more.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] hisuwh:
Why do people want HDMI on a dock when their is one on the device anyway? In my opinion as long as one of those pins can support enough data for a keyboard or OTG then I'll be happy. If they ever get round to making a dock
[Nexus 10 Accessories] BuGGr:
according to this site 2 pins are for data transfer and 2 pins are for audio (left and right). So no HDMI since the other 2 pins are ground and power.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
I'd there a technical limitation as to why data can't carry video?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2

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Because it's one less thing to plug in. My Xoom dock has HDMI and occasionally I use it to stream to my TV and since it's bulky into the dock I don't have to mess with cables, the weight of the cable doesn't put unnecessary strain on the HDMI jack. Just makes it that much easier. If we get Miracast, that's be even better.

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[Nexus 10 Accessories] e.mote:
>I'd there a technical limitation as to why data can't carry video?

If one or two pins can subsume the functions of HDMI, then the HDMI connector itself wouldn't need 19 pins for that same purpose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

>Because it's one less thing to plug in.

As another said, waiting for a Nexus dock from Samsung is an exercise in futility. As for 3rd-party fare, remember that it's a proprietary connection, and Samsung would need to divulge its pin-out (read: authorize) for any accessory to happen. Along that same line, a cheap Chinese cable won't happen, just as it didn't happen for the N7.

The pogo-pin cable may not charge faster than the micro-USB, but it may free up the USB port for data uses.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] BuGGr:
indeed, hdmi over the pogo's is just not possible due to the pincount alone.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Gunthermic:
My comments were more to the effect that it costs more than 3.00 to make. Those that were complaining. Go make one cheaper. I don't have money to throw away at all. But 10 to 20 is reasonable price..

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
I realize it probably does cost more then $3 to make, but before I figured it to only just be a cable with some wires and pins. The added circuit breaker thing would up the price a bit, but I still feel it doesn't cost $20 to make (i'd say at the most $10).

That's just my view of it anyway; I really have no idea how much it really costs to make the cable, but I do sense that there will be other cables just like it for a lot cheaper later.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tpayne1:
Usb 2.0 pc spec is 500mA.... It cable can take more than that, but a pc will not supply more than 500 mA. My post was specifically referring to USB2.0 spec only supplying 500 mA.

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Yes, we can. It's not possible in any configuration. HDMI REQUIRES at least 3 data pairs and a clock pair...this doesn't even bring into account hotplug...This doesn't even include the shield/ground for each pair (it's a balanced cable). I know this offhand, but even a layman can look up the hdmi spec and know it isn't possible.

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To be fair, you can transmit HDMI over 4 pairs of UTP, but it requires a significant amount of processing to do so.

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That site is definitely incorrect. There are 6 total pins. We know that pins 1 and 6 are definitely ground. This is known because they have zero resistance between them.

Pin 2 is a control pin...put a pulldown resistor on it and it changes statuses.

That leaves 3 more pins...My money goes on 1 is for 5v 2A (per the charger in the androidcentral tease) and the other two are either data +/- or audio R/L.

We'll know when i get mine, because I'll figure it out...you have 10 more days to speculate ^_^
[Nexus 10 Accessories] e.mote:
@jstevenkim

Will you be selling a right-angled version of the connector? The current straight connector can't be used when the tablet is in a propped (landscape) position, since the pogo port is at the bottom of the unit.

Using the Nexus 10 (in landscape) while being charged is a big appeal, and a low-profile, angled connector would be conducive for that purpose.

>To be fair, you can transmit HDMI over 4 pairs of UTP, but it requires a significant amount of processing to do so.

I'm aware of CAT5/6 "extenders" that allow various long-distance functions, including HDMI. However, when active electronics is involved, we're no longer talking about a $20 cable, or a $50 dock.

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[Nexus 10 Accessories] tvBilly:
Umm, I was one of the "foolish" people that spent a fortune on a really-made-by Samsung desktop base for my VZW Galaxy Nexus phone. It was months before it was available, and it was only available for a week before it disappeared forever from the Samsung site. It holds the phone in the portrait orientation, and the sole connection to the phone is via the micro USB connector on the bottom of the phone.

This particular desktop base has two connectors (besides the male microUSB connector that goes into the bottom of the phone). One is a female microUSB connector which provides power to the desktop base. The base will charge the phone at the fast charge rate (2A, as I recall), not the USB rate, but there's NO data pass thru even if plugged into a computer. The base takes any charger with a microUSB connector (or even a laptop, though that will only provide 500mA).

The other connector on the desktop base is an HDMI connector which provides video out from the phone.

Since two of the microUSB connections on the bottom of the phone are used exclusively for power, that only leaves two pins for the video. If you're interested in the "how", check out the Galaxy Nexus forum and search for their discussions of POGO pins and what can be on them. It includes the method used for sending video out of two pins, and converting it to an HDMI connection in the desktop base. They're a year ahead of us on figuring out the POGO stuff, though the Galaxy Nexus only has three POGO pins. :)

That all said, I have no idea if Samsung implemented this functionality via the microUSB connector in our N10s; after all it already has a video out port. I also have no idea if Samsung implemented it in the POGO pins in the N10.

Just wanted to point out that if they wanted to, they could; they've already done it.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Hmm, I just figured HDMI to be a cable that combined RGB + L/R audio channels, on one cable. A standard component cable (RGB) is just 3 cords, and audio can have 2 cords for separate L and R (more for additional speakers). For HDMI to need 4 pins minimum; if what I mentioned is true, is audio just basically being sent on a digital signal down a single path, and then read by the receiver and outputted? Or is my understanding of HDMI totally wrong?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] MrGrimace:
I would think that you can transmit ANY digital format over 1 cable so long as you can transmit it fast enough and multiplex the streams and there was demultiplexing hardware before the HDMI out.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] e.mote:
@tvBilly

GNexus has MHL, which allows HD video over a 5-pin connection. MHL is not HDMI, although it does support HDCP and can be interfaced to a HDMI connector.

MHL requires specific hardware, and neither N7 nor N10 supports it per their specs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tyrahn:
The problem with that is that the 3-channel video cables (YCbCr) and red/black stereo audio cables are analog, not digital. HDMI is an all-digital format that supports resolutions and color depth much higher than analog cables, including higher frames rates and 3D, up to 8 channels of HD audio, plus control pass-through and hardware based DRM. That's why HDMI uses 19 pins to transmit data.

That said if you're willing to compromise video color space, resolution, sound channels, or control pass-through you can reduce the umber of required data streams considerably, which is how you can have MHL and DVI adapters to HDMI.

Weather the Nexus 10 has the hardware or software to send anything to an HDMI adapter is another matter entirely....

Clark
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tpayne1:
Small correction...DVI-D and HDMI are identical where video is concerned. DVI actually has a greater fidelity when using dual link.

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The portrait dock for the GNex had a built in MHL adapter...there's no magic that allows for a 3 pin pogo connector to do any sort of high definition video...you could do something NTSC or PAL SD, but that's about it.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Would you honor a 50% discount off Accessories from a Samsung promotion code? :p
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
I charge mine overnight too, so I never have the need for such quick charging.

$15 shipped is tops I would pay and that is quite reasonable for that cable that will end up that price eventually anyway. It is just a cable, no !!) outlet adapter needed.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
Well now I feel somehow worried about working with the tablet while the charging cable is connected... :silly:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
Will the Amazon UK orders then also be sent to other European Countries?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Well, you can do what I do. I'm not sure if the Battery Monitor Widget has the working notification/alarm feature or it's only in the Pro version but I set it to notify me when it hits 4.3V or a bit less. The Pro version was still on sale yesterday.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] pezzku:
Well as you have found out the Nexus 10 uses 4.3V max. li-ion cells, so 4.2V cell charging voltages doesn't apply here. It's supposed to charge at constant current till 4.3V, then let the current gradually drop untill battery is considered full (at 1/10 of original charge current or so).

Software reported voltage readings are suggestive at best, so unless someone measures the actual cell voltages and finds the tablet overcharging I think there is nothing to worry about.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
No, 4.2V isn't the max, it's the point at which the charging alogorithm is supposed to change from constant current to constant voltage which it doesn't do with the screen ON. The max for Li-Ion cell is between 4.25V and 4.3V. I don't have any Li-Ion cells that are mark with anything that appears to be max, only nominal 3.6V or 3.7V. The pictures of the N10 battery also had a 3.75V value on it. Do we add a .05 to it? Don't know!

With the screen ON or in use, it charges at a good hefty rate, never slowing down even after passing 4.3V. If anything with both screen ON/OFF should charge in the same manner.

If software can't read battery voltage properly, how does/can the sb347 charging chip work? What's a chip but burned in software, correct?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Blown 89:
Mine came in today. Definitely charges faster that the wall wart I have which takes all night. Not sure how much faster but it's definitely faster.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Just curious if you ordered from Amazon or the pogo.com website. If the website, what was your ship date?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] toricred:
Mine came in yesterday. Purchased from pogocable.com 2 weeks ago today and shipped the following Monday.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
Interesting. Roughly where are you located and was it sent by Registered Mail, which requires a signature?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] meeek:
Do you know when your amazon.com seller will ship to Canada?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
almost 100 percent sure something is wrong with my pogo cable and not my tablet. using the stock ac charger with pogo cable my charge while screen on (using BMW Pro) is -50mA - +20mA No way it can charge. Using teh USB cable plugged into the same charger I get +1100mA to +1500mA charging. So it is either the pogo cable or the pogo connection/circuit.

Now when I plug the pogo cable ONLY into my laptops usb port (win7) it sound the connection, seconds later it sounds disconnect, connect, disconnect... just seconds apart..no tablet, but it connects/disconnects over and over till I remove it...

This is what I saw on the BMW Pro screen after a 15 hour charge (not full BTW).. it shows charge/discharge over and over when monitoring is set to 1 min. can't set it to check if the cable shorting/charging... but I really think their is a problem with this NEW cable.

Does anyone else's make a similar response when plugging it into a computer's USB port without the tablet on the pogo end?

Think I need to contact the seller for a replacement.. hopefully it the tablet has protection against this type of charging!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
When I plug my POGO cord into my PC, I get nothing or no connect sound. There shouldn't be since it's even mentioned in the paper that came with it, no data connection. Yes, you have a problem I'd say.

I've never seen anything as high as 1500ma from the micro-USB port on mine. That's more like what I get from the POGO cord or higher.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Magnector:
Sales on Amazon UK

Hello. I am the manufacturer of this product.

We started to sell magnetic pogo cable for Nexus 10 via Amazon UK as well as Ebay UK.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B2166BS

The shipment to other European nations will be made in London UK with same shipping price in a way faster delivery speed.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Kula5haker:
Hi there,

I've ordered two cables from pogocable, I see the same behavior when connecting a cable to my win7 pc - also if no tablet is connected, the sound im getting is the same the device manager gives when new devices is attached. The other cable is being used with the original charger, it works as described. I can do some more testing, and check if the cable attached to my charger gives the same weird device manager sound, and also monitor both cables with bmw with charger and vice versa win7 connected.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Maxey:
Amazon. Uk shipping to germany doesn't work
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
The 1500+mA is new and only before 75% full, with a shorter, and high quality Motorola cable on the stock ac charger. And yes it does charge while using it with low/power settings etc. Just posted a message on my tests:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2129431

Other cables give me less than half that charge ability! Experiment with them, real interesting/rewarding (real quick USB charge wise:)). Wish my POGO worked like this...

Maybe order another pogo and see if it's the same before I start asking for replacements.... Windows 7 absolutely shows it connect/disconnect continuously. I thought it might be a short between pins, but not if others are getting the same thing. It might be the connection of the "voltage chip" they describe in the cable being detected by window's USB voltage sensor... Although windows says "unknown USB device detected "
[Nexus 10 Accessories] ryan stewart:
Ive never seen any indication that the pogo pins enable data, only power. Some have guessed audio.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
See if I can add the screen shot. Here's 1400mA...slowing down s it gets closer to topping off.. Shows AC charging as well (micro USB)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Hmm, all from a "better" micro-USB cord, hey?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] metaled222:
Give it a try yourself, The shorter seem to do better. If it works, you get faster charging.... If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.(with faster charging than before)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Don't have anything else that uses that type of cord. I know the N10 is finicky as adding even a 7.5" extension cord to the POGO cord affects the charging rate. I haven't tried the shorty on the mini-USB cord yet.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Kula5haker:
Both pogocables tested.

- they charge at 19xx mA rate.

- both give connection sound under win7, with and without n10 connected.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Check my POGO cable again to make certain and get no connections sound w/wo N10 connected on W7 64-bit. Not sure if this was mention but do you get the USB data connection icon on the N10? Probably not?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] duarian:
Two weeks and still no update on my package from Korea. Last update was international post. Unless Simone is boating it over here i don't see it taking 2-3 weeks to reach the US from Korea.

Sadly I think my pogo cable is lost in transit.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] hihihehe:
how the charging time compare with micro-usb? is it worth the money to decrease the charging time?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] mbeltoft:
Could you please add shipping the rest of EU and not only UK

I can't order this and ship it to Denmark
[Nexus 10 Accessories] mark.m.moran:
+1 I am in Ireland and want to know how much to ship here please!?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Ken401:
I begin week 4 of waiting since ship date from Korea.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
It's a lot faster than micro-USB although one user claims that they can get faster rate by using a different micro-USB cord. If any of this is worth it is entirely up to you.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] forsaken82:
mine came in sat, i was not at work so i just got it today. n10 is charging as we speak. mine didn't even really smell!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] adoute:
I ordered mine on Jan 13 (from the web site, not Amazon or eBay), and received a shipping notice with tracking number on Jan 16. The Korean tracking system showed "Departure from outward office of exchange" on Jan 18. USPS tracking showed nothing for the tracking number, until today - USPS now says the item has arrived at my local post office. Hopefully it will actually be delivered today or tomorrow.

A question for any US residents who received theirs via USPS - was a signature required for delivery?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] derobert:
Mine arrived registered, which requires a signature. Had to go to the post office the next day with ID to pick it up.

The tracking will tell you if it's registered mail or not.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
I ordered from the website and came unregistered mail, no signature required.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Blown 89:
Mine required a signature.

On a side note it charges a hell of a lot faster. They've been taken down from Amazon. Does anyone have a link I'm missing so that I don't have to wait for another from Korea?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] adoute:
Mine says it is registered. Hopefully my postal carrier will be late enough in the day so my son is home from high school. I suppose having to wait another day and going to pick it up isn't so bad - at least it seems like I might actually have it soon.

Thanks to those who responded.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
I don't know who Simone is, but maybe she can't afford a faster boat.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] IMGetwired:
Not gonna read thru 62 pages of posts to see when you ordered...can you tell me when you ordered, and from where? Thanks!

I ordered one from www.pogocable.com today, 2/4 and will post again when I receive mine.

Thanks!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Mine never tracked properly but some of the early info showed registered but it didn't end up coming that way.