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[Microsoft Surface] schettj:
I agree its not a full featured mail client - it's the first release of the windows 8 store (gag) mail client. There's nothing saying it can't grow into something better, or even that other clients that are better won't show up in the store. As an "adjunct" email client its good enough for now - given I have my phone with me always and it "owns" my calendar, I can manage it there. The calendar sync does work fine with my various calendars, at least :)

Give it a rev or two. You may not remember the first versions of email and calendar in iOS, but I do. Yeah, they sucked pretty bad too.
[Microsoft Surface] amb9800:
Yeah, it's poor enough that I have to use webmail for all my non-Exchange accounts. Kind of sad that my phone is better for email triage than the Surface.

I'm actually tempted to write a new mail app. I have some POP3 and IMAP code sitting around from a few years ago when I was writing a replacement mail client for WM 6.5, so if I get a chance, might see if I can use some of that.
[Microsoft Surface] GoodDayToDie:
@amb9800: That would be great. It should even be possible to publish it on the store; MS seems willing to let people duplicate the functionality of built-in apps, and the required Capabilities already exist (really, just network access and File Picker, with Share integration if you want to get fancy). Just make sure (especially if it's C/C++ code) that it's reasonably secure...
[Microsoft Surface] welki1979:
I only had a problem with the mail app when using it to access my ISP mail account directly. Since setting up Gmail and forwarding my accounts to there I've had no problems with syncing my mails, contacts, calendar entries, chats etc. Strangely my surface is more reliable for chats than my win8 laptop... the laptop is constantly saying it can't connect to various services but the surface is okay.....just my personal experience.
[Microsoft Surface] schettj:
Porting some existing app over should be fairly easy. Let's hope for yours and/or others to arrive :)
[Microsoft Surface] Romp:
One thing I have noticed people complaining about and I may have an answer.

GMail only allows a certain number of IMAP connections.

If you exceed this, you will get errors. So, if you use Outlook, an iPhone, and a few other devices, you hit the limit.

Additionally, some apps are not following the rules and will open more than one IMAP connection. For example, Thunderbird will use 4 by default!

http://kb.mozillazine.org/IMAP:_advanced_account_configuration

Reducing the number of apps that are hitting your IMAP may help.
[Microsoft Surface] guitar1969:
It would be cool, but I think you aren't the first to think of this. I was talking to a poster on the official MS Surface forum about a month ago, and he was talking about publishing a Mail app to over come these things as well. Here's the thread, starts at bottom of page 4:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3/edcf3be5-53cc-4d24-b0d4-c379cd0bed95?page=4

The problem is, if you can overcome the deficiencies with not doing POP3 that would be awesome, but also need to provide all the other features at least on par with the Mail program, as it would need to be a replacement.

if you can do that and still be able to make it worth your time, go for it, as I would buy it, and I am sure others would as well.

With that said, I find it hard to believe MS is ignoring this issue, unless there is a good reason.
[Microsoft Surface] Trig0r:
Maybe they are just looking at the iPad and making sure that they offer at least the same level of "app", getting all the apps out and then going back over them one at a time until they are aactually decent apps..

Who am I kidding :lol:
[Microsoft Surface] amb9800:
Yep it'd be a store app. I'd be doing this in .NET (VB/C#), IMAP/POP are pretty well-documented, and I would of course build in SSL support, so security shouldn't be an issue.

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Yep hopefully :)

If only the MS Mail app could hold a candle to iOS' mail client (or even Windows Phone's client for that matter!)...

I hope MS does fix the app, but I'm not terribly optimistic, because every non-Outlook mail app MS has made has been broken or half-baked in some way, and the Win8/RT mail app is still under the Windows team at Microsoft (not Office). Windows Mobile's app had a bunch of issues, some of which were fixed for Windows Phone 7, but big ones like IMAP special folders (sent, drafts, trash, etc.) have still not been addressed over a decade later (the folder names are hard-coded-- if your server uses those names, it'll work fine; if not, you're screwed).

The iPhone's stock mail app eats WP7/8's lunch in all the fundamentals (though I prefer the UI on WP's app), and now that continues with iPad vs. WinRT mail app.

Yeah there's also a POP3 "mail monitor" app in the store already, but it's read-only, has a really poor UI, and feels more like a proof-of-concept than something you could actually use.

My goal would be to create a full-fledged app that could serve as a replacement for the MS one (for all but Exchange accounts).

Next week I'll play around with the WinRT dev tools and test some of my components to see how things go. The main variable right now is just how much effort it'd take to make a suitable UI (including fixing some UI issues with the stock app-- the multi-selection process is so frustrating!).

I've done several WP7 apps, so hopefully the WinRT learning curve won't be too bad. The bit I'm actually most uncertain about at the moment, prior to having looked into it much, is the composition UI (since it basically has to be a full-fidelity HTML editor, not just a text box). I'd also want to include things like the Facebook-like web share-to functionality in MS' mail app (which is about the only thing it does that WP7's app doesn't).
[Microsoft Surface] GoodDayToDie:
Windows Mail for Vista was actually quite good as a basic POP3/IMAP/SMTP client, with filtering and account autodiscovery and customization and a bunch of other stuff, plus good performance and an easy-to-use UI. It didn't hold a candle to Outlook in terms of functionality, of course, but it was a massive upgrade to the Outlook Express line that shipped with earlier versions of Windows. To call this new... thing "Windows Mail" as though it's even close to comparable is ridiculous, although I suppose when you go for MS-grade boring=and-obvious branding, I suppose there are only so many names to use.
[Microsoft Surface] amb9800:
Yeah. Vista's app was sort of an orphan. Outlook Express became Windows Live Mail, which is still available (and installable on Win 8, though obv not RT). It's not too bad, and even has calendar / contacts, but it lacks Exchange support (so no PIM sync with anything but Hotmail).

The metro Mail app is supposed to replace that (desktop app only exists because of the Win7 user base), which it's nowhere close to doing (except the Exchange support). Maybe MS can first try matching even its own phone app's functionality?
[Microsoft Surface] Trig0r:
I cant write apps for **** but given the whole HTML5 thing would it not be relitively easy to write an app that ties into OWA?
[Microsoft Surface] amb9800:
Heh MS just posted an update to the Mail app.

On the upside, it appears to have finally fixed the IMAP folder subscription issue (it subscribes to all of them, without any way of selecting-- messy, but I guess more convenient than having no folders).

Appears to treat special folders (e.g. Sent items) as normal inbox folders though-- so every time I send an email, it shows a new unread item in inbox (i.e. the message I just sent, from the Sent folder).
[Microsoft Surface] werk:
I've noticed it is loads faster too, which is welcome. It was such a dog previously. I think previously it would try to load the sender's contact picture before the content of a mail message, which is just stupid. Now I notice that the message loads even as contact pictures pop in the inbox.

Now if they'd just add freaking flags, I'd be satisfied. If they'd just copy WP8's mail client, it'd be great.
[Microsoft Surface] guitar1969:
Still no POP3 support even though its listed as an option? My Surface doesn't have an update for mail yet.
[Microsoft Surface] schettj:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions

Vote Early and Often.
[Microsoft Surface] amb9800:
Hmm, odd-- looks like IMAP special folders are still broken. The app moves deleted messages to the server's Trash folder, but sent messages are still stored in a local Sent folder rather than the server's Sent folder (as configured). Really annoying.
[Microsoft Surface] StarLog:
It is so bad i returned my Surface today. Will wait for the Pro version.

Does not support java either
[Microsoft Surface] illidanx:
I used the mail app daily. It's fast and very simple. For a light email user, it works well for me.
[Microsoft Surface] KJ98653:
Are you going to use a desktop program for email or the web? The pro version doesn't change the mail app.
[Microsoft Surface] Trig0r:
Correct it doesnt, however it does give you the ability to install desktop apps so anything can be installed..

Yes you lose some options like notifications on the lock screen but for anyone that uses the device in a work environment or as anything over "light" email use the current app sucks plums...
[Microsoft Surface] schettj:
It's fine for what it is... a simple email reader. You want desktop apps, use a desktop. Or your phone :) (yeah, the email on WP8 is better. Or sucks differently.)

I don't mean the above in a bad way, just that I'd rather have a tablet for tablet uses and an ultrabook for non-tablet uses than an ultratablet (Surface Pro)
[Microsoft Surface] StarLog:
Gonna use a 3rd party app if needed.
[Microsoft Surface] Trig0r:
Decent email is hardly ultra use tho is it, Outlook Express was a simple email reader and I'd rather have that than the current "Mail" app, there are what could be concidered to be simple things it should do that it doesnt..
[Microsoft Surface] brsingr:
Is there something good that can replace the stock mail app? Not that I have ot on my current rom (COLA). But was hoping there was something better before I go back to my old stock rom to grab the mail apk from that with TB.
[Microsoft Surface] dogboy66:
Why?!?

Why do I need to sign in with a microsoft account to add an exchange account? Am I just retarded? I nearly broke the G.D. thing in half before giving in and signing in with one. lol
[Microsoft Surface] ebamit:
I finally gave up and set up Gmail to handle all of my email accounts by enabling Multiple Inboxes in Google Labs. I set each account to leave a copy of the email on server so my laptop can still "own" the accounts. Created a few filters and set up custom searches (with viewing panes) so the new email will appear in their own pseudo "folders". Finally, I created a tile that will open the inbox directly. Works great and I don't have to deal with the mail app's buggy way of handling IMAP folders.

I may be too optimistic, but it's hard for me to imagine that MS won't be (eventually) fixing this terrible app.
[Microsoft Surface] guitar1969:
Problem is you cannot send from those email accounts in Gmail - The sender email will only be your Gmail account .

Deal killer for me . . .
[Microsoft Surface] StarLog:
I will install office as the full blown office outlook supports pop3
[Microsoft Surface] ebamit:
Yes you can. When setting up the pop3 email accounts you can specify your own smtp server and "from" alias.

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22370
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ushiyama:
Hi, i'm searching for the latest official rom with PT_BR language.

In fact, i was able to flash the latest firmware from Germany (until now) ROM I9000XWJW6 in a GT-I9000B device with an apropriated kernel, but it has only PT from portugal and i am from Brazil, it's a litle bit different languages...

So, anyone know what is the latest rom whith PT_BR support?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ushiyama:
bump

Anyone has some new?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ushiyama:
It seems that will not have that language, Samsung leave dev on GT-I9000B a long time ago...

A similar project is the Saurom which with adapted kernel will work on GT-I9000B
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C.C:
I need to copy text from Twitter/Email and search it on Google on Samsung Galaxy Ace. It must be similar as using the computer via Google Chrome.

Is it possible ?
[HTC One X] mbsmbhs:
solved.I have hboot 1.31 and cid j15 and ruu 3.14.401.27 didn't work. it gives error 131 customer id error.

any news or help for revert back to stock (jb or ics) for cid j15 hboot1.31?

Just used this post and I get back to stock for sure I can't downgrade hboot but I can now wait for ota update.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jstevenkim:
I know there is an issue with charging a nexus 10 by a micro-usb cable since a battery is drained out faster than charging. Thus it has a pogo charging connect and supposed to be charged by a magnetic pogo cable. However, unfortunately the cable didn't come with Nexus 10 for some reason, and there have been no place to purchase it separately though. Here it is!!! it makes nexus 10 charged 40% faster than a usb cable. It will be available for sale on Amazon and ebay soon! I will provide you a link to buy it later.

:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] arsonizt:
another tease :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] saryu:
how.. do.. you.. know.. if.. this.. is.. true?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jstevenkim:
Since it is a picture that we just took in preparation of selling it online... we are the original supplier of the pogo charging cable to S in Korea. Just wait for a couple of days... You will have a link to buy soon! ;)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Techie2012:
Does it come with a wall plug? Amperage?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Shane_pcs:
Hate to be nitpicky, but I want a dock to go with it. So get on that :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Nitemare3219:
Any word on price? I'll be one of the first to bite on this for sure.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] AztlanUnderground:
If we are indeed a couple days away from online availability, giving us price and specs should be no problem i'd guess.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] skally:
Can you provide us with any information regarding what the pins do? Also, in what countries will it be available?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
"soon" and "later" as in, some point today? Or near future (this week/early next)?

Also, I hope the price is pretty friendly :) Ideally, I'd love the price to be around $3 for just the cable itself, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] SiliconS:
Provide a photo of the cable with your forum name on a piece of paper next to it and you will gain some credibility...
[Nexus 10 Accessories] phobium:
Don't tease us like this :crying:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Shane_pcs:
Why not love for it to be free? I'd expect at least $20 given they would be the first to market.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Tyronnster:
Defo want to see more
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
$3 ?

I am guessing you would pay more than that for faster charging. :)

I would easily pay $10 for it.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] slydog43:
This is exactly what I'm looking for. I will buy a few as I want to make a few docks and should be easy with this cable.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] jstevenkim:
Fyi, for safty sake a pogo cable itself has a circuit break chip installed even though an ac adapter could break a circuit. It is a magnetic pogo cable like an apple notebook pogo power cable. Since it is not like a mere usb cable, price couldnt be $3 or 5 something. we expect $19.99, apparently not over $20. Sorry, at this moment no comment on a pogo dock. Oh, the pogo cable will be up online probably on ebay early next week. I will provide you a link and international shipping available as well.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] AztlanUnderground:
Waow, 20$ for a cable that should have been in the box in the first place, I think I'll pass.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] e.mote:
@OP

>we expect $19.99, apparently not over $20.

Tsk tsk...they don't teach Sales 101 any more... Should've said that it retails in SK for $40, but because of the special respect you have for XDA members, you've managed to finagle a SPECIAL SUPER SALE PRICE of only $19.99. THAT'S MORE THAN 50% OFF! :)

When there is no reference price, highball, then come down.

>I will provide you a link and international shipping available as well.

$20 + $10 shipping = $30. You heard it here first. :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
$20 is too much. I will wait to see what google and samsung do.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Nitemare3219:
Would using a USB extension cable negate the benefit of the pogo cable? 4 feet is far too short.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] plastikowl:
Looks like the Bear Motion cowhide leather case.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] LowSky:
Yeah it does look a lot like it. I have the same case in brown.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] skally:
Threads here and here have discussions on current charge/usage.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scrubinator:
Can you use usb otg with the micro usb port while charging via the pogo cable?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] espionage724:
Just throwing this question out there again :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Kroenen66:
YESSS :) ... that's why he's so in demand.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scrubinator:
welp. buying a nexus 10.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
I got my pogo cable today, too bad I have a full charge. Looks to be of high quality and clicks on really easy.

Time to go play NFS for a few hours. :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] bigdog2k7:
Just ordered a pogo cable from the new site that was posted in this thread - couldn't wait for them to get back on ebay or start an amazon sale. Transaction went through paypal and it's a wordpress site, but it all seemed legit. For $26 bucks I took a risk. Will let you all know when I receive it and post some pictures.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
I really like this cable.

I tested it while eating dinner just to be sure it works. It charged 5% during that time.

I tested it while surfing the net and it kept charging fine. I really like the ease of use, clicks on so easy.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] fionic:
ordered one from the website, hopefully it's legit.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Yeah, I was involved in that discussion. Since using 9000mAh and time doesn't agree with actual measured current from the PS, I'm wondering if the battery capacity isn't overrated?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
I'm waiting for mine. Did you order express?

Does it charge while u gaming

Thanks!

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It is!

than why would ppl get there cable!?

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So if the battery over rated why it takes soo long to charge ?

I'm not a engineer lol

That website disassembled the nexus may know how big the battery written on it. Saw it on Engadget. I don't remember the name of the website
[Nexus 10 Accessories] demusss:
Right testing mostly done.

Earlier i said i would test with an ammeter and report back so here it is.

Somehow the nexus detects there is a usb extension lead and only draws a current around 500-600mA. So i installed Battery Monitor Widget free version.

BMW was reporting the same current as the ammeter so however BMW is doing it its correct.

Took out the extension lead and using stock power supply and lead the nexus started to draw 1575mA.

On average its drawing about 1550mA.

At 21:24 nexus was at 18%

At 01:24 nexus is at 86%

Took 3hrs to charge 50%

So i suggest someone with a pogo plug installs BMW and compares the charging current and using usb.

For anyone who thinks charging is slow install BMW and check your charge current if youre not using the stock supply and usb cable this may have an effect.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Because the charger inside is programmed to only charge at a certain rate.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] johnyguy:
So maybe with the powergen from amazon its 3.1A and with the pogo maybe charges faster. I don't know
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
That's what I thought also but someone said that it didn't matter and the charger would compensate for it. They also used some kind of external unit to power the N10 which read the current also which also showed a reduced load. I don't remember how my readings compared to BMW.

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Coulb you get the Battery Monitor Widget from the Google Store and post what the POGO charger cable is showing for charging current?

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:D

Depends if the stock PS is max'd out or not and will the internal charger allow the extra one amp.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] catfishbillyhere:
ordered mine...

Yeahhh.. Ill let ya guys know...

Order Details

Product	Qty	Totals

Cart Subtotal:	$19.99

Shipping:	$5.98 via Flat Rate

Order Total:	$25.97
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Funny or maybe normal but my bank account shows the charge already but PayPal isn't mentioned but the company name is. This might be because all my other charges were from eBay??
[Nexus 10 Accessories] ClutchKargo:
This is the case, real leather and not bulky. Awesome quality for sub $20 price.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009YLJI90/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Ok so last night I finally had time to connect the cable to wall charger in the office last night and at 6:39 it was 30% I checked back at 10:15 and it was 77% so I don't feel it's much faster with wall chager.

However I have a PowerGen2.0 amp car charger and Sunday was using the pogo with it and it charged 5% in exactly 12 minutes, so I just wanted to give you all this info.

For me I get a full days use for the N10 with full charge on average and this pogo cord gives me a no worries way to hook up overnight charging. I'm not a big fan of micro USB charging ports because of mutiple failure issues in the past with phones. On a $400+ Tablet the $20 pogo gives me a quick simple solution that will reduce wear and tear on the USB port for a fair price.

I'm saying this last statement because I've seen quite a few compaints over the cost but I do not see any problem with spending $20 for this cable for convenience and piece of mind knowing the USB port is not going to crap out over time. I've had so many problems over time with micro USB charging ports dying that for me this is a no-brainer. Just my $0.02, FWIW...........

Clutch
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Bru87tr:
Ya, now that I have it I think it was worth the price. The USB charging cable takes a bit to get exactly right into the port. I can see it getting worn out quickly or broken.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] wptski:
Yeah, you got a wiggle it, correct? My OTG cable isn't like that.

BTW, I asked above if you could get the Battery Monitor Widget from the Google Play Store and compared the charging rate of the USB/POGO ports, did you happen to try that yet?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] dust.:
Ok phew you guys have the same issue with the usb cable. I thought the usb port on my tablet might have been defective... I guess I'll have to go scoop up a pogo cable asap! :good:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] uncola:
My magnector arrived today and is working great. I live in hawaii and I ordered off ebay the 2nd time it got listed. The cable isn't quite as long as the samsung cable that came with the nexus 10, which is a bummer but otherwise, the magnetic connection seems pretty reliable and a nice fit. No more broken microusb ports for me, I'm in the future now, where we use magnets. It came in a little padded envelope and my usps mail lady made me sign for it.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] scooterboy5:
I ordered from ebay the first time it got listed, and it still hasn't arrived.

I think the seller is fraudulent and you're ALL in on it! :mad:

:cool:
[Nexus 10 Accessories] EDNYLaw:
Seller is 100% legit. Just got my cable today, would have been yesterday but the mailman didn't leave it at the door. Ordered mine the first time it was for sale on ebay.