yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Wow that read like the old I heard from my brother sisters cousin twice removed. If there was an email why not post it in the article?

So you needed an unknown site to tell you this? You couldn't take the hints over the months with delay after delay?

Hey I heard from a friend London bridge just fell down lol.
[Thunderbolt General] RBarnett09:
Yeah, that site is not reliable by any means...

Though I personally doubt to see an official ICS launch for the Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
If we do get it then it will be on Christmas morning from Santa. So be good all you little bolt owners lol.
[Thunderbolt General] bmax327:
Probably ran fine until VZW tried to put sense on it. Oh well.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
You mean it probably ran fine until they bloated it.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Ummm sense is from HTC not Verizon lol.
[Thunderbolt General] mike.s:
Someone doesn't know what the word "official" means. Hint: an official statement regarding the HTC Thunderbolt won't be written by a Jr. High School kid.
[Thunderbolt General] bmax327:
Doh! Shows how much I know.
[Thunderbolt General] jimmyco2008:
Isn't technobloom the site that told us all Amazon was going to sell the Thunderbolt for free starting at 3AM one day?

Anyway, the Galaxy Nexus is cheap as ever now, go for it, I mean the Nexus one just got a 4.2 custom ROM, imagine how far along the GalNex will get!
[Thunderbolt General] RunNgun42:
I never really expected this to happen after observing all the work from the devs on it. ICS has always ran kinda wishy washy for me. I mean it works and all, but there are definitely some performance issues and bugs no matter which rom you use. Verizon nor HTC intends to release a shoddy product. It either has to work 100% or not at all. If ICS cant run as well as GB did, then it aint gonna happen.
[Thunderbolt General] xs11e:
I wish I had a dollar for all the false rumors that have been posted about ICS, I'd buy Verizon and have enough left over to keep me in booze and hookers for the rest of my life!

I think this is one more dollar in my stash....
[Thunderbolt General] Obaterista93:
If that were the case though, the thunderbolt would've ran well from launch day, which anyone who had one since then will say that it didn't. Originally the battery life was horrendous and had to be fixed by an OTA.
[Thunderbolt General] dexter++:
NO ICS

just called HTC ,,, and they told me , that we are not getting ics,,, htc thunderbolt is discontinued,,,, :crying:
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
We could call and email different reps at HTC and we would get a slew of different responses from them all. Stuff like this no one will know the correct answer as tech support as we all know is the last to know.
[Thunderbolt General] xs11e:
So let's see if I understand this... the OFFICIAL WORD from Verizon AND from HTC is that the Thunderbolt will or will not get ICS and will get it within the next two days or later than that or never.

Does that about cover it? <G>

Honestly, I don't see what all the flap is about? ICS doesn't offer anything I need or want other than (I HOPE!) a better kernel for the Devs to work with.

Meanwhile, NuSense works for me and the BAMF leak works for me if I want ICS and, if I want Gingerbread, Infected ROM works for me and Thunderstick BB works for me along with a bunch of other ROMs I've tried.
[Thunderbolt General] gemro311:
Was at Verizon today, Reps informed me there will be no ICS for our phones...Cant say I'm surprised...my upgrade is in January, not going to worry about it .. Can't believe they state we would get the upgrade, then renege ..

If Apple can upgrade their older model Iphones for several years , why can' t our Android phones do the same.. and no I'm not switching..:)
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
One Verizon stores done know crap. All they know is what the computer tells them. The computer doesn't say we are not getting it.

Two its easy to update iOS as not much has changed on it over the many updates. Where as android os goes through some major changes.

HTC is still saying its coming just be patient. So there is a little hope there bit in the end I doubt we will see it.
[Thunderbolt General] quickdraw86:
I don't think official ICS will make it the bolt after all the delays, but am hopeful. If official ICS isn't released though, this will definitely be the last HTC product I ever buy unless a HTC makes another nexus in the future. Samsung and a slew of other manufacturers make android devices too... there are other options out there on different carriers as well...
[Thunderbolt General] RBarnett09:
It's sad but true.

Apple customers, in my opinion, are treated much better than Android customers.

I'd never get an iPhone though.
[Thunderbolt General] nonews:
If HTC can't come through with ICS on the Tbolt (a "flagship product") then I find it hard to recommend a DNA or any other HTC product flagship or not. Gingerbread is not offering the new features in apps shipping on ICS. Even Google abandoned GB. The liquid/twisted ICS ROMs boosted by battery life and data speeds vs liquid 3.0 that I ran for a year.

If no update is coming then source code to enable the ROM developers to stabilize/enhance their builds would be acceptable.
[Thunderbolt General] RunNgun42:
Definitely dont trust anything a verizon store rep says. These clowns are one step up from a wal-mart greeter and clearly dont know anything about the phones or receive any kind of training. I called several stores the day before the DNA came out trying to see if I could score one early and they hadnt even heard of it. What's worse is that they even lied and pretended to "ask someone" about it and then come back and say there is no release date and they have no idea when it's coming out. I'm like "uhh, it's the first thing you see on your fricken homepage, and the release date says tomorrow". Sheesh. I go to buy it, and they cant figure out where the sim goes. Now I havent even seen this phone before let alone read about sim card removal, but it's obvious the little sim tray is in the top, at least if you've used more than 1 cell phone in the last 5 years. Dude is like "oh ah, there it is, whaddya know".

If a rep says ICS isnt coming out, it's because they dont even know what ICS is, and dont want you to ask them to look it up. They're just trying to get rid of you.
[Thunderbolt General] gemro311:
Or get you to buy a new phone...
[Thunderbolt General] jetshack:
I just received a replacement Thunderbolt in the mail after my old one crapped out.

It has 4.0.3 installed on it.

The battery life on it is abysmal.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Send a screen shot.
[Thunderbolt General] santod040:
That I find interesting.

Can you take a screenshot or picture of the software version and kernel version, Under Settings > About Phone?

Thanks!
[Thunderbolt General] arizonaomnia:
If true, this is very interesting indeed.

Sent from my Twisted ICS Thunderbolt with Tapatalk 2
[Thunderbolt General] CondemnedSoul:
adb pull /system .... Let's have a peek ;)
[Thunderbolt General] jetshack:
I'd love to except I can't figure out how to root it. The screen cap apps I've bought require root. (I am not super comfortable with smart phones. I've spent the last 2 days trying to figure out how to root this one.)

I've unlocked it using the HTCDev tool

I'll just type out info that might be important...

Android Version

4.0.3

HTC Sense Version

3.6

Software Number

3.14.605.12.710RD

Kernel Version

3.0.16-gd0049f1

htc-kernel@u18000-build-144#1

SMP PREEMPT

Bootloader

2.25.0000
[Thunderbolt General] santod040:
Nice, new kernel...and slightly newer build.

I sure would like a dump from that.

****EDIT

WAIT, are you sure it's a Thunderbolt and not a Rezound? LOL

Does it have a kickstand?
[Thunderbolt General] dubsx:
that's what she said
[Thunderbolt General] CondemnedSoul:
adb pull /system ... Then zip and upload.
[Thunderbolt General] santod040:
Looks an awful lot like a Rezound build to me.....just sayin.

Also, with ICS, Power plus Home = screenshot.
[Thunderbolt General] CondemnedSoul:
I agree.... Maybe he could take a picture with another camera so we can see the device too.. lol
[Thunderbolt General] jetshack:
I did not know that.

It's most definitely not a rezound.

Pics attached.
[Thunderbolt General] santod040:
Unless they skewed your screen's resolution and crammed a dual core processor in there too, that's a Rezound.(extra memory, 2MP front cam,etc,..)

That would be why the Thunderbolt root methods won't work for you. ;)

The ADR6425LVW=HTC Rezound not the Thunderbolt.
[Thunderbolt General] FirePsych:
Check out the midel number. It's a Rezound.

Edit: Santod beat me too it.
[Thunderbolt General] jetshack:
well ****... that explains why I've been beating my head against a wall for the last two days.

It looks EXACTLY like the Thuderbolt. EXACTLY
[Thunderbolt General] CondemnedSoul:
Lol.... At least he didn't try flashing recovery yet...
[Thunderbolt General] santod040:
I wouldn't say EXACTLY, but glad you got that all sorted out...lol. :good:
[Thunderbolt General] Obaterista93:
My question is... how'd you score a rezound with white buttons? Mine has Red.... (I like the white better)
[Thunderbolt General] quickdraw86:
I had a moment of hope... Aaaand, it's gone! Lmao
[Thunderbolt General] simonbarsinistr:
Way to score the upgrade on the replacement!
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
How does one not know what kind of phone they have lol. Think someone wanted to play a game .
[Thunderbolt General] gemro311:
Heard Verizon is sending Rezounds as a Replacement for TB...

---------- Post added at 05:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 AM ----------

Condemned ...welcome to our world! You were the best Eris developer ! :D
[Thunderbolt General] CondemnedSoul:
I disagree but thank you nonetheless :beer: .... It's been a while since we've been in the sane forums :)
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Funny but not cool man :)
[Thunderbolt General] gemro311:
Agree ..definitely not cool!
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Check this out folks.

http://www.androidauthority.com/and...ch-update-htc-thunderbolt-coming-soon-141392/

Don't know how legit this is but take what you want from it. They at least posted a screen of the question and answer.
[Thunderbolt General] soulesschild:
If anything just release the god damn source code for everything so devs can take over. :(
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
I submitted that request to the htc customer service to see the response. They basically gave me the general response that they don't give etas and don't announce when source will be released.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
Only thing is that HTC has been saying that same comment on twitter since before July. Actually back in April when they was doing the test on the bolt. So when people posts screenshots like this they have to be taken with a grain of salt.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
I totally agree. Someone else started a confirmation thread already ROFLMAO
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sullytrny:
View attachment 1560699

Do nothing else but move those 4 characters

XT912 Simplex 1.3 - 64gb SD 8gb SD-ext
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Thanks man I suppose it also works on stock ics?

edit: nvm I fixed it, I hope it works :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blackhawk_LA:
Shouldn't you give credits? I've seen this posted on Safestrap thread, and maybe others. Also, this is very little "development" :rolleyes:

But thanks anyway
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tbis:
Is this for when you download or install something it saves the data to your internal memory instead of the external SD card.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
I think it is the opposite. It saves apps to external SD card instead of internal.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
hmm dont know if this worked, downloaded plants vs zombies but it went straight to my internal sd card??

edit: not working...still goes to internal sd-card.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BADDINOROX99:
worked for me thanks stock ics
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
how?? does the apps u install now go to ur external sd-card?

this is how I have it, is it right or wrong?'

if it's wrong, please show screenshot on how it should look, much easier for me to fix it then.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
bump

dude cmon wtf I did also try this one u send me in pm

all I get is FC in settings and SD card not detected...

next time please post the whole code! It's not working...any one else with a solution?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BADDINOROX99:
just the ones I circled
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BADDINOROX99:
you edit the wrong one
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sullytrny:
Put/add -ext in top circle

Remove - ext in bottom circle

XT912 Simplex 1.3 - 64gb SD 8gb SD-ext
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sullytrny:
And make sure your file programs set the phone file system to writable

XT912 Simplex 1.3 - 64gb SD 8gb SD-ext
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Thanks man! Finally working. Now I only need to get bigger sd card :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BADDINOROX99:
if you knew why bother looking or better yet maybe you should have shared this if you knew

Sent from my XT912
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stkiswr:
So this allows your internal card to be read on aosp 4.1.2? I just rooted and safestrapped my friends RAZR and on whizzed bean his internal card isn't recognized and he has no ext SD card
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sullytrny:
This works on any thing with an external sdcard as long as you have root access and write privileges :-$

XT912 Simplex 1.3 - 64gb SD 8gb SD-ext
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
If you want to return to original state how do you do it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Is there a way to return back to "stock"??
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sullytrny:
Just rename the stock file *.bak. if you did not bu just switch the ex and internals as described
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sid.8491:
hello guyz.. today notification for this update came up on my SXP, should i update???

i have ThP kernel and stock rom

UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER

ROOTED

can i still update or it will not work...??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dimon2242:
Flash via flashtool!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sid.8491:
If I do it over the air directly by mobile via wifi??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] frijolito18:
You will get a really nice brick because you have unlocked bootloader. Flash with flashtool and you won´t have any problems :good:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sid.8491:
Thnx buddy...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sid.8491:
So is it the latest official firmware or do we have any other newest release??
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] AliUsmanSaleem:
don,t install this update..

this update has bug lots of em

1. camera dosnt work in dark.. fash won,t work it take black images even with flash

2. big time battery drain,

3. no performance improvements as far i have seen

so do not install this update
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] sid.8491:
ok buddy....thnx for saving me!!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] doctor_droid:
Hehehehe

Thats ur personal experience bro

Battery has improved

Camera clarity h improved bt not time taken to focus in dim light ( use camera 360 )

Newer kernel

Sent from my ST25i using Forum Runner
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 47un:
Cosmic flow LWP still lags and homescreen tilt is bugged as well
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] PureLife90:
Would pimp my rom be compatible with this phone now that we have an unlocked bootloader? I just want to make sure it'll be safe to use before I go and use it and ruin my phone.

Thanks in advance.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. bird:
I am selling my iPad that I regret buying. I want something else. I'm between the kindle fire HD 8.9 and the galaxy tab 2 10.1 are there good reasons to get this over the galaxy? I see the specs difference. But I'm still undecided. Any help would be appreciated.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geekybiker:
Its a big "it depends"

If you're a prime member, that's a huge + for the kfhd

Its much easier to have a normal android experience on the tab2, but the specs are a lot lower. If you're willing to deal with rooting to get play on the KFHD and dodging amazons updates that break root the KFHD is better device. Or if you don't care about the full android experience and just want to consume media, the KFHD is great. I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you.

Tab2 wouldn't be my first choice unless you got one of those crazy black friday deals on it for a 10" tablet in that price range though. I'd be more likely to compare the tf300t. Much better SOC and cheaper.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. bird:
Is the kindle that much faster and is the display really look better? I like the idea of being able to expand the storage on the g-tab and I own the s2 and I love it. Whatever I get will be rooted almost as soon as I take it out of the box. Its what I do so that doesn't matter.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmandawg:
why did you get rid of the ipad? The kindle sucks, i'm going to return mine (got the 8.9 for $250). I can't even run Gmail without it crashing.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geekybiker:
I'd tell you to look into the nook hd+ if you're rooting for sure, it has the SD slot, cheaper, but no camera. Can't tell you what the progress is on root though.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. bird:
I don't like the iPad. The os is so limited. Everything is so slow. And programs crash all the time. The crashing may have been because I jail broke it but either way it just sucked. I prefer android.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmandawg:
Was it an ipad 1? IMO the ipad 3 i have is worlds above the kindle fire HD, except for the price. The kindle is going to be even more limited and slow than an ipad 2-4. Samsung has been known to not updating their software so i'd recommend a nexus tablet if you want to go android.

I returned my kindle. Right now i have a nexus 7 and an Ipad 3. The ipad 3 works so good it's kinda boring, the nexus is completely open and there are alot of mods you can do to it. At this point i would not recommend a kindle unless you really like the amazon interface. CM10 looks like it's coming soon, but there will be lots of bugs, and you have to wait.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samtran0331:
Maybe not exactly the info you're looking for, but here's my experience with the various manufacturers..

My current round up of devices include:

1. NookTablet

2. NookTouch

3. Moto Xoom (gave to Dad, but I still maintain)

4. Sammy Galaxy Tab 2 7"

5. Asus/Google Nexus 7

6. Kindle Fire 8.9 (just got this week; they had a $50 off deal one day)

7. Sammy Note I (phone)

4,5, and 6 are the only "current" models; all the other have newer versions.

They all have their pro and cons...here's my opinion on some of them.

Overall, the Nexus 7 is the winner.

If you're looking to run custom roms, the N7 has the widest selection and (more importantly) most active development community.

It also has the fastest proc of the bunch.

Its one real drawback, as you and others mentioned, is that it does not have expandable memory.

The Gtab2/7"..the 4 things it has over the N7:

1. Rear camera

2. Expandable storage

3. I/R blaster

4. A lot cheaper (I've seen refurbs on woot! twice now)

It also has a good selection of custom roms, but the dev community isn't as active as the N7...and that's only going to get worse as time goes on.

It is noticeably slower than the N7!

If you run any rom not based off of Samsung's rom, you lose the I/R blaster.

It's not that much of a loss because the available I/R remote control software sucks.

I've used the rear (and front camera) not more than a handful of times.

As for the Nook:

I would only recommend a Nook if you happen to frequent B&N stores often. Or you have already purchased e-books/magazines through them.

Their stock rom allows you to read any book while in store.

Their "Nook Kids" is available as an app for iOS, but not available for any Android devices except their own Nooks.

From my experience their Kids apps are nothing more than a larger selection of kids books, and they allow you to record yourself while reading the book.

I've run custom roms on it and ended putting the stock rom back on (rooted and Google Play installed of course)

As for the Kindle:

I would recommend if you have already purchased e-books/magazines through Amazon and/or have an Amazon Prime account.

Amazon (AFAIK) doesn't allow you to stream any video through android devices except their own Kindle Fires.

So as a Prime member, I was able to watch Fringe for the first time last night (a title not available on NetFlix).

You can also "check out" a lot of books without purchasing them.

I did root and get the Google Play store installed on this too.

I most likely won't be installing any custom roms on it.

Not because I like the Amazon UI or anything...but simpy because:

With both the Nook and the Kindle, you get value added services (like being able to read books in store and streaming content not available on other devices/roms)

So for me personally, I'm a big Amazon user, and am digging my 8.9 and the Prime features.

If I was looking for best specs and most open, I'd probably get an Nexus 10

Geekybiker said it best: " I think only you can answer how important some of this stuff is to you. "
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hector333:
I own a GT 2 7, and theres a catch about the SD memory expansion and is that you cant install applications or application data on the SD; not at least on stock rom; the expansion its only useful for media (music, movies, docs, book, etc..) not for apps.

Regards.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iMJets:
It all depends on the features you want now, and or later.

If you like The Fire HD, it has amazing dual speakers and is a great multimedia device, but is limited at the moment due to the Amazon ecosystem. But both the 8.9" and 7" variants, are having custom roms being developed for them, because the bootloaders have been cracked. So if your willing to wait for the goodies, then go with the Kindle Fire HD.

If you want something with more of a all around Android Experience now go with the Galaxy Tab. In my overall Opinion if it maters, pick the Kindle Fire HD either model size.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. bird:
I ended up ordering the gtab 2 10.1 I want the expandable storage for movies and pics. 16gb is fine for The rest. Thanks to everyone for their input.
[Nexus 10 General] cloney:
It goes out of stock / Sold out!!!

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http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
[Nexus 10 General] skr_xd:
www.staples.com

http://www.staples.com/Nexus-10-32GB-Tablet-from-Google/product_117636
[Nexus 10 General] blackhand1001:
I bought one in staples a few days ago in store.
[Nexus 10 General] skally:
Is there a point to linking to another place that it's out of stock? ;)
[Nexus 10 General] Hawk600:
OP, you should try Staples as posted by skr_xd or Walmart.

Got mine in Staples store with no wait or shipping fee.

Nice tablet but be aware of the light bleeding and battery life though!
[Nexus 10 General] cloney:
That's why I'm hesitating to get it anywhere else but the Playstore. Was hoping the newer model versions will have some of these defects lessened.
[Nexus 10 General] tyhe314:
That also means that its a bigger headache if you are wrong and the defects are still there. Main reason why i bought it from a store is so that I can exchange/return it without a restock fee and shipping
[Nexus 10 General] Hawk600:
Beat me to it...Staples has an extended returning policy until Jan 15 2013, so I can return it in case I change my mind or find a better deal unless they price match.

I cannot say for sure but based on information I collected across the forums and in store, It looks like Staples and Walmart are getting two units per shipment, so you can get one if you are persistent.
[Nexus 10 General] Lesser Version:
Just left Walmart here in Abingdon, MD and they had two in the case
[Nexus 10 General] cloney:
They do have them in stock at my staples here... maybe I'll jump ship and go this route.