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[Epic 4G Android Development] copticwalad:
Dirty flash most of the time for Me is just flash nightly ROM, gapps, wipe dalvik/cache But NOT Data, reboot,... But strangely I've had more encounters where it suddenly becomes a Clean flash and my data will be gone. I typically do Intentioanlly a clean flash every month or so but it's just a bunch of the customizations (launcher, widgets, etc.. that take a bit more time.. TitaniumBackup is usually great with that but system restores I do minimal to prevent bugs, Trebuchet works well for icon restoration).

I got a bit thrown off for CM10.1 when they hid the developer menu and the cmupdater would autoinstall without gapps or pausing in recovery. But was happy to find that tap About Phone Build 7times to restore developer options so I can reboot into recovery without the awkward hold 3 buttons method each time, lol.

Overall I'm very happy with CM10.1 now, a month ago it was terrible, but now very rarely self reboots, had 2 a few days ago while on an older build.

Random question, anyone considering going for Galaxy S4 and any developers plan to support it? While initially I was disappointed no octacore I'm actually very satisfied with snapdragon 600 on it. Benchmarks are beastly. Only big question for me is if Sprint LTE-Advanced 800Mhz will be supported on it.... I got a feeling it will be but on a later revision later this year.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bpsears90:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I was under the impression that the cmupdater was so we didn't have to manually do anything to jump to the new nightlies. If that wasn't the intention, then in my opinion it was pointless. I can download the file on my computer and transfer it much faster than what my phone does, which if I'm gonna have to wipe things to get it to work properly y not just do that? The last time I flashed from 1 nightly to another I had to wipe cache, then dalvik, and I format system. Then of course flash gapps after the rom. Flashing the gapps is what gets me. With CM10 I jumped back and forth between what I wanted when I wanted and never had any issues including battery life loss or anything. If the cmupdater was not made to make things easy like that then ill try to have a little more patience.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

No negativity taken.:cool: and thanks flast for your corroboration.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Sesquipedalian:
I think that was the point. I typically just do a dirty flash and rarely have problems with the updates. You also have to think about a lot of users who may not be savvy enough to do it manually. Say I installed CM on my mom's phone. If there's a milestone or stable update, it should prompt her to install it no fuss. Everything is great unless she has a problem, then I can step in and manually work on it. I think most of the time dirty flashing works well enough that the update is the easiest route. I use it every few days and can't remember ever having a problem.

If someone comes out with a "pro" keyboard version like the did with the S in the form of the Epic: In a heartbeat. I doubt that will happen, though. Which is sad. I think there's definitely a (profitable) niche market for the hardware keyboard, and no other phone is offering it right now. If anyone did, everyone like me (and probably most people in the Epic forums) would jump on it instantly.

The other condition I'd upgrade is if an accessory manufacturer came out with a good-quality slider keyboard case. There are several for the iPhone, and given the popularity of the Galaxy S, I am hoping someone will see the opportunity for profit. It might suck to have to leave bluetooth on all the time, but in my little fantasy, such a case would somehow include an extended battery (if such a thing is even needed with 2600 mAh stock.)
[Epic 4G Android Development] wakkigy:
Did you try CyanDelta app which will only download the delta changes, apply to your base CM 10.1 nightly and even does auto install.

I've been doing that for the nightlies and haven't had any issue with data wipe.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

You're correct. CM updater is there to make things easier. It flashes the rom and wipes the caches as part of the process. That's all that should be needed. The CM install script effectively plucks gapps out, wipes system, and puts the gapps back. But sometimes, remnants are left behind that could result in conflicts/FC's. That's why wiping system is a failsafe way to guarantee a clean system install. You shouldn't have to do it, but it is easy enough to do.

Data could become corrupt, but as flast said, is a slight chance. It's also possible that some personal system setting data related to an older/different version of a ROM is conflicting with a change to the build.

Battery life is both the increased draw by the advanced OS were running and often the age of our batteries. I've had massive drops after reboot on ROMs back to SFR 2.2. It happens, and usually isn't a cronic problem. But YMMV

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CM didn't hide Dev options, I believe that was Google.

See my previous post regarding what the updater does. CM doesnt come with gapps and doesn't wipe gapps.

Edit:

I just used CM updater to flash today's nightly. It rebooted with no gapps. Either there is some major intentional change that has happened or unintentionally the updater script is not preserving the gapps. Bummer. I have to top off the battery, then I will try doing things the old fashioned way in clockwork. I'm sure that will work fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] copticwalad:
I couldn't agree more about the keyboard. While swype is decent (even the swype-alternative built into jelly bean), as soon as I have to type my password I need my keyboard or spend 4x the time typing it on screen. I was hoping for a keyboard case too because I have seen them on iphones (See one here on Amazon). I heard from one sprint store that one reason they aren't making them as often is because the sliding mechanism tends to break over time and isn't as reliable, but I dunno.. my keyboard used nearly everyday for 2.5 years and still perfect.

If I was a parts manufacturer I'd make a magnetically attached one. Battery itself can be quite magnetic, and it would be an easy way to attach and detach. I've become more fascinated with car mounts that mount magnetically lately.

However I think I'm going to go with S4 cause there's other ways if u need to type fast. WifiKeyboard lets u use computer keyboard to type quickly on ur phone. Bluetooth keyboards like Logitechs.. but the tough one is just having the all-in-one solution. You could grab a smart docking station and hook up usb keyboard, usb mouse, and a terabyte external storage at the same time, I find that geeky but cool. That new game controller (wii+xbox360 controller child) makes you wonder if they have a qwerty version of it.

This is highly worth considering because it's keyboard and gaming controller and designed to work on everything. iControlpad

Brilliant, I'm going to try it out asap.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bpsears90:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

Hopefully the cmupdater is fixed and we won't have to flash gapps manually. Going through the process of syncing ur gmail account with the phone every couple of days or so is just a little annoying
[Epic 4G Android Development] mordant23:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

ROM Toolbox backups your account info. No need to go through the whole Google set up after flashing gapps.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DynamicN:
Does the lite version backup account info or is it the paid version?
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
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In theory, if we didn't wipe data, the Google one time setup shouldn't even show up. Something has gone pear shaped or CM had to make a move to appease Google. But usually, I find out about big CM changes on G+ a night before the change happens. So, I'm guessing this was unintentional.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DynamicN:
Makes sense. So if you have inside information, I hope the m3 is going to drop soon:fingers-crossed:
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I don't know anything special, I just follow CyanogenMod on G+. They usually make announcements there on a very timely basis. I would suggest that any nightly flasher add them to their circles. It's because of G+ that I knew about the advanced reboot menu, trebuchet changes, the clock data thing, etc... Before it happened.

Side note: does anybody else find the new clockwork recovery to be kinda laggy? It sits art it's splash screen for a much longer time, then it seems generally slower. I did a nandroid, and nothing seems wrong. Just an observation. Also, I wonder what the new option of releasing backup data (something along those lines) does.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DynamicN:
Thank you for the info.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
How do you update that? I think I am running the version from a year ago.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

It came with the last nightly I flashed. Definitely yesterday's, but maybe on the the past couple too. I was few days behind.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mordant23:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I don't know. JRummy made major changes including the account updater after I paid for the pro version. Try the lite version and see. It would be under App Manager in the application.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DynamicN:
Will try, thank you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tbob18:
No one with a car/desk dock?
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

Was thinking about picking one up for when the epic is retired to media device and desk clock. But nope. No idea.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
I have a car dock, but I use bluetooth to connect to my car stereo, not dock audio. But once upon a time it did work when bluetooth didn't have th kinks out of it. In fact when CM10 wasn't even in nightlies yet. Huh, so thinking about it maybe I never used it with 10.1.

Sorry I'm not more help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bypod:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I've got the desk dock and the audio pass-through doesn't seem to work, but I haven't tried really hard. Suspect it just hasn't been implemented for us yet.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Grompy:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

Anyone getting dropped calls on 3.23 build?
[Epic 4G Android Development] tbob18:
Yeah, I thought it was working with CM10.1.. But it must have been CM10.

I find that the usb audio is a bit better quality than bluetooth on my deck.. Of course direct is better than both.
[Epic 4G Android Development] copticwalad:
I have both the car dock and desk dock. It was working in stable CM10 builds but still not yet with CM10.1. I use my car dock almost every time I drive to listen to my music and am patiently waiting for implementation. It gets pretty cool when you listen to music, use the navigation with a British woman's voice (who lowers volume of audio during prompts) and using bluetooth headset at times, which puts the voice prompts suddenly inside the bt headset while in the phone call and pauses music. Desk Dock is okay but unless you hook it up to actual speakers it's not worth it. But at the same time it's probably because I use my phone to monitor all my sleep patterns (sleepbot this year actually implemented a sensitivity physical + sound listening so you can just put your phone on your bed and estimate REM cycles. Allows for a smart alarm too, pretty cool considering it's free and u can see data online). So I need to charge phone but have it on my bed, Other major issue I just remembered with desk dock is Alarms. Most Alarm apps including default do not play the alarm through the usb audio and instead through the phone audio, I think this is so it's at most reliable. But I did come across 1 or 2 that attempts to push it through the dock audio but I remember not being entirely successful with it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

Nightlies seem a little erratic lately. Maybe they're fixing the updater issue. It would make sense to delay nightlies to avoid people having problems updating through CM updater. But... Looks like we're getting CM style PA pie controls. Should prove to be interesting :thumbup:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rBByoFV5o58/UVElleUNBeI/AAAAAAAAD2Y/lth5MS0EnLs/s812/Pie.png
[Epic 4G Android Development] VaderSS:
I am unable to use an ELM327 OBDII automotive diagnostic bluetooth adaptor under CM10.1 M2. When I try to pair it, bluetooth turns off then back on. It happens every time. The ELM327 works fine with another Epic 4G running CM10, but it would not pair with that phone when it was running 10.1 M2

I am able to pair with my bluetooth headset and it works fine, as long as I voice-dial from the headset. If I try to dial from the phone, it takes so long for the audio to start working that the person I am calling hangs up on me.

I was also able to pair to another EPIC 4G that is running CM10 stable. I did not try doing anything over the connection, but the two phones paired up fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Do a little reading back. Buggy BT is a known issue with 4.2 builds including CM10.1. It's Google's fault for changing to a new BT stack on the new jellybean. It's even buggy on stock nexus devices. Some devices work with others nicely, some work sometimes, some not at all.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
Yeah it sucks too. Damn near a deal breaker as I really kind of need that to work. May have to flip back to CM10 for a couple weeks and see if it's resolved. Not pissing at the devs mind you. All their work is greatly appreciated.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bpsears90:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I flashed to 03/24 yesterday and everything seems to be working fine. I take great care of my phone and a couple of weeks ago I noticed my volume up doesn't work anymore and as of today just a couple hours ago, I noticed my vibrate was real weak. I rebooted a couple of times and it didn't help. I know the volume up can't be fixed cuz I don't feel the click type of feeling but the vibrate thing started out of no where. I RARELY drop my phone and I've been home for 4 hours and I know for sure this wasn't happening at work. Any chance of this being in result of 03/24? I just realized after typing this I probably should've flashed to a different nightly before reporting lol what do u guys think? Is my phone dying? :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
Reflash your last known working ROM. If the problem goes away.... Well, you know the answer.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bpsears90:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

Yeah no luck. My vibrate is all of a sudden going dead which is another BIG step to parting ways :( plus side for cm 10.1 is it doesn't affect vibrate :) lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] bmasephol:
Just flashed the 3/27 downloaded using CM Update... my phone would reboot to the start of the spinning CM logo and freeze. Cleared caches's and rebooted multiple times. Flashed back to 3/24 and I'm back up and running. Careful with 3/27, might want to do a backup first.

If you can successfully run it let me know, I might have gotten a bad download. Does anybody know if the CM Update utility does a MD5 check or anything against what it downloads?
[Epic 4G Android Development] nlinux:
I had the exact same issue, and got to the start of the spinning CM logo and it would freeze. I rebooted a couple of times and then went back into recovery and cleared the cache again and reflashed the 3/27 image. On reboot, I made past the CM logo and everything appears to be working fine now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bpsears90:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

Anyone else having trouble with the youtube app? I click on it and it says unfortunately youtube has stopped working. I cleared the data and force closed the app and rebooted and still nothing. Tried a different nightly and nothin. I'm on 0324 after wiping cache, dalvik, and formatting system
[Epic 4G Android Development] DonToolBag:
Loved everything about this ROM until I encountered the Bluetooth issues. Tried two different headsets (Both were Plantronics, different models...)

They don't pair, or they constantly disconnect and reconnect, or they just drop off completely. I can't find any correlation or reason why it's happening. Coupled with the fact that I have a few bluetooth speakers I use to stream music - this one bug might be a deal breaker =(

Thanks for the work! If anyone finds a workaround or something I can try, I'm all ears. But I think for the moment, I'll have to go back to CM10.

DTB
[Epic 4G Android Development] Sesquipedalian:
I had this problem as well. I wiped system, cache, dalvik, and then reflashed w/gapps. Still freezing on the spinning CM logo. I had previously been using the nitest kernel, so I went back and reflashed that along with the bigmem patch, and then it booted right up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nlinux:
This is a known issue and is broken upstream. Drives me nuts too, but 10.1 runs so much more smoothly that 10 that I have just learned to live with it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DonToolBag:
Interesting, CM10 was pretty smooth for me, just really liked the slight enhancements added to 10.1 Glad to know the Bluetooth is an upstream issue. Thanks for the info....

DTB
[Epic 4G Android Development] Grompy:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

What happened to the reboot to recovery option?? I miss it already :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] iamterence:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

This question has been asked and answered more times than I could.count on both hands. Please search next time.

Go to settings > about phone > tap on Build Number 7 or so times to enable the Development menu, and the option for Advance Reboot (reboot to recovery) is right there.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ProperNoun:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

The last commit in the current nightly disabled Pie settings for devices that have hardware keys. ...which would include us. :banghead: Haven't tried it yet but wonder if the navbar hack found somewhere around here would be good enough.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dougrun:
3/27 froze on the logo for me too, but the screen dimmed so i though it was at least doing something underneath the frozen logo. After about 5 min, i yanked the battery and rebooted, and it booted fine into 3/27, didn't go through the "updating apps" counter like other upgrades, maybe it already did it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
Same here. I like the bells and whistles of 10.1 vs vanilla 10... But I can't abide the BT issue. I don't know if it's being worked on, I read a couple pages ago someone said it was a Google thing but I don't know if as a result of that it makes it unfixable. But if anyone IS trying: It connects fine for the 1st time or 2. Then it doesn't. Only a reboot fixes it. It is hanging trying to shut BT OFF is the thing. The reboot resets it to whatever value it had during shut down. The initial connect after a reboot is an eternity. Anyway, that is my experience with connecting to a JVC head unit. I just want to put it out there in case any of the devs are working on it. Thanks guys. I'll try back in a couple weeks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AndyYan:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I can make it per request but not as often as the nightlies...
[Epic 4G Android Development] mordant23:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

As far as I can tell, enabling the navbar doesn't enable the pie control. The zip in this and the navbar thread doesn't work, so I've just edited /system/build.prop.
[Epic 4G Android Development] danipoak:
So it sounds to me like DON'T update to the 3/27 nightly for now?
[Epic 4G Android Development] mordant23:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

If you want pie controls, then don't upgrade. Disclaimer of course is that I may not have figured out the pie settings, but I've tried expanded desktop after emailing them and it didn't work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

3/27 is super broken anyway. Not worth it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TracerBullitt:
Yeah, I went and made a backup and was all set to try 3/27 and its pie, then I read the latest comments about it (incl. pie taken out because we don't "need" it) so... I'll just wait, I guess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dougrun:
3/27 to 3/28... same thing, frozen on the logo. pulled the battery.. restart.. samsung, cyanogen, then blank. yanked battery again, rebooted, now loading fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] propjockey:
Re: [ROM][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 10.1 Preview Builds for Samsung Epic 4G

I don't see any merges worth flashing the last 2 nightlies. But after the boot hang and reboot, is it running well?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dougrun:
3/28, rebooted while texting.

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i booted into recovery and wiped the cache and dalvic and the logo freezes again on reboot so it must have something to do with that process, since a normal reboot is fine.

after the frozen logo dims (my settings are on low brightness), it does respond to opening the slider by turning part of the logo sideways. And I got a text message during the frozen logo so maybe its just a non-responsive screen thing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AndyYan:
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Delete the boot animation via adb or TWRP.

Strange... Boot animation compatibility issues usually happen on JB builds but not a CM nightly, yet this happens...

Sent from HTC Incredible S @ PACman v21
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
But did you hear? They fixed that pesky wired mic issue!

NOT! lulz
[Epic 4G Android Development] TracerBullitt:
Lol, didn't fall for that, ONE bit...

I've gotten used to walking around like Capt. Kirk for the most part.

...Except when I set the phone on the counter then go to walk somewhere...
[Epic 4G Android Development] danipoak:
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I still don't understand what pie settings are.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RodimusConvoy:
Finally made the leap. Got 10.0, and besides the launcher and some other things/bugs (had to figure out how to get install and run Task Manager, don't really like Apollo and prefer Music Player, etc)...not bad. May make the leap again and get 10.1.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AuGmENTor:
Near as I can tell, they are just a fancy new interface for your capacitive buttons.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dropple:
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Pie is annoying if you play a game

But the positive, it doesn't eat the screen