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[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
Same here mate.
[Nexus 4 General] Cor-master:
That post was epic. To me this whole situation could of been avoided by one simple thing: Preorders! Why in gods name would they not take them? Seriously, not only do you assure everyone who wants one at launch gets one, but you get a good forcast on your demand and can properly supply enough product to meet everyone's needs.

It never made one bit of sense to me why they didn't take pre-orders. They didn't even really give anyone a clear idea when exactly the nexus 4 would be available for purchase on the 13th! As far as product launchers goes, this has to be the biggest joke in history

And yeah their silence is driving me nuts. Have a representative take 20 minutes to write a statement and send it to Engadget, Android Central, or another news site. Would it be that hard? 20 minutes just to give us an update on what's going on. Truth is none of us know whats going on, and all we can do is speculate because there is zero info out there!
[Nexus 4 General] paulbeattie:
Very well considered and informed post. They do seem to be managing or not so as the case may be some fairly large problems. With the shutdowns coming over Christmas this is likely to get a little worse before it gets better.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
It is not so easy in reality unless you are an established player with a pretty much predictable customer base, like for example a certain well known fruit factory.

Otherwise given the finite production rate you will either be forced to close the preordering (would cause the same customer fuming as the current "sold out")

or will be forced to constantly push back date of availability causing equally severe fuming.

Their current "6-7 weeks" availability schedule is in fact nothing but preorders. But somehow everyone is still unhappy.

Which brings us to the root cause of this mess: LG production is unable to keep up with demand. And no logistical mumbo-jumbo can't do anything about that.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
:thumbup:Well done OP well done...:thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 General] chavo360:
Yep, I think LG is having a hard time keeping up with demand and the proof was all over my Nexus 4. It looks like someone over the whatever sweatshop they are using to package the phones left nasty, greasy sweaty fingerprints all over my phone when they "factory sealed" it. QC issues like this plus other problems I've been hearing on this phone leads me to believe that they are shipping them out as they make them, greasy fingers and all.
[Nexus 4 General] cvfl:
I actually think this IS a pre-order situation, but some douche-in-a-suit was adamant about not calling it that publicly - in the mobile device industry for some reason pre-order had a negative connotation. That and product roadmaps never being on time.

Actually it is quite easy. We're talking exactly ONE distribution channel here = retail, direct sales. And by now with as long as the Play store has been online, they damn well know their customer base. Not to mention being able to log every IP that has visited the product info page. How much more demographic information do they need?

Globally Google has outsourced their distribution. That means it is infinitely scaleable. There's absolutely no excuse for this. It's evident from all the non-US issues, that this is a Google orchestration failure on all levels. Plain and simple. I hope Bill Gates sent the project manager a really nice box of cigars as a thank you. The G just boosted Windows phone users tremendously. At a minimum it's making a lot of us go hmmmm. I guess maybe Finland should send some cigars too - because suddenly the Lumia family doesn't look so bad.

| And I kind of swore never to look at another Nokia device again |

Thank you to all those that appreciated my OP. :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
I'm gonna take a guess here and say the OP worked for RIM.
[Nexus 4 General] cvfl:
BUZZZ. There's 2 lines in my above post. Read between them. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] karendar:
You wanna sell one of your Qi chargers?? Pm me. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] legend618:
how many phones does a company like LG make in lets say a week? month? and how long does it take from factory to my door?
[Nexus 4 General] cvfl:
While I can't quote specific numbers, due to my prior NDA - I know where you're going and let's just say it's a pretty high number, especially given that in most cases each production line is gauged in phones per hour. I would also say that based on my past experience, manufacturing is more often limited by component shortage rather than process time. Back in the day, the best chipsets were made by a certain electronics/calculator maker - and they closely controlled their own allocations to device manufacturers by the shorthairs. 1 chip = 1 phone after all.

Generally, Louisville, KY (UPS sort) can hit anyplace in the CONUS in 2 days for ground service that is dispatched via UPS Logistics as a service. Northeast US (NY/NJ area) +1 day, AK +2 days. Upstream from Louisville, unless they are sticking them on a boat (which is foolhardy for electronics in this day and age) - we're talking probably truckload (TL) volume minimally from centralized manufacturing adding at best 1 day, worst case 2, to each country specific logistics center. I'd be shocked if for example in US case it's 5 days from end of LG line to your door. UPS does that reliably, flat out - most failures like we've seen are from incorrect batching/transmitting of shipment data. They are pretty strict, for a reason.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
And based to that knowledge there is just one sane conclusion to be made: nobody would want that nexus4. Like nobody wanted a N1, NS and GN. Only in case of N4 it suddenly came out very differently. For some strage reason demand on N4 is very different from it's predcessors.

You somehow imply, that el goog is sitting on a pile of nexus4 and the only problem is the distribution.

Which I doubt very much given how this business usually works. Oh, and the LG assembly line capacity is not the only bottleneck here. You need to source a bunch of components first, some of them being unique with no alternative sources and no chance just to get to the market and buy from some random distributor.
[Nexus 4 General] cvfl:
Just like that TDMA phone with the American flag front cover.

I bring up the strong hint of a bevy of failures, none of which tie back to UPS. I'll save you time though from going back to read my previous posts. Google is guilty of failure to adequately judge demand, failure to orchestrate their supply chain, and worst of all - failure to communicate with their customers.

In this day and age, about the only excuse for single source components in this device are the display, the processor(s), plastics and battery. Everything else is SMD, and I can get put on a plane from China in 24 hours, with no previous PO in place. Since all of the parts I mention are 1:1 with demand - it's still Google's problem, not LGs.

I'm still not going to rule out a pure mfg bottleneck, or worse yet if they are having a bunch of fallout in final test. As someone about to be an end user - this one scares the crap out of me. And could also be the root cause of the silence. Mull on it for a bit.

Great discussion though draugaz!
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
It is undisputed that they grossly underestimated the demand. And undisputed, that they aren't talking much.

But at the same time it was the only sane decision. Nothing in the previous nexus sales history would hint a significant demand. So, given the hostile distribution einvironment producing millions of them would be an expensive suicide.

Like this is not enough to hamper the production :)

You can't produce a phone without CPU. And you can't produce the phone without an LCD which you can't just buy on the market.

And even if LG has a warehouse full of unallocated LCDs (quite unlikely), you still need to produce that uniquely shaped gorilla glass2 (with bent edges) and glue to the displays. I suppose this is done on purpose build machinery which is able to produce certain quantities per day and that's it.

Sure, you can build/reconfigure another one, but this takes time.

This also applies to that glitzy back panel.

And then that quadcore chip - it is the most complicated qualcomm part to produce, I can imagine they currently don't produce too many.

Not like it never happened before, just rememeber the situation year ago when qualcomm was unable to produce enough S4s and manufacturers like HTC were forced to engineer european OneX around Tegra3 (double development, double costs, severe thermal problems, no real performance gain) and could not produce enough of OneS. They even did absolutely funny things, like downgrading their OneS to the older S3 chip later.

And the lesser manufacturers like Sony did not get any of S4's at all.

And then matching Samsung 2GB RAM chips, those are the absolute high end.

Not to forget, now is the busiest time of the year. Every manufacturer is scrambling to fulfill their pre-christmas orders.

I think things will change very soon as January is traditionally a much quieter month which google could use to catch up.
[Nexus 4 General] dmkozak:
I seem to have missed the part where Google said it is in the phone business. I thought at the beginning (Nexus One), Google said it wanted to make a bare bones Android phone available for developers and others not interested in the manufacturer add-ons or carrier add-ons. No subsidies because not tied to a carrier. This last part has changed a little. Even the Nexus One was sold by T-Mobile. And then, Verizon and Sprint got into the picture.

Anyway, Google hasn't changed the purpose of the Nexus phones. Yes, more people today realize the benefits of Google not wanting to make money off phone sales and not being tied to a carrier committment. But, still Google does not say it is in the phone business. For the purpose of Google phones, Google is in the operating system business. (If Google were in the phone business, the Google phones would be CDMA as well as GSM, the Google phones would operate fully on LTE, and the Google phones would have more customer oriented items, like storage cards. Heck, the Nexus 4 would at least be OTG.)

So, why does everyone say that Google needs to conduct itself as a phone retailer when Google does not perceive itself as a phone retailer? Google's objective is to help grow the Android operating system. If we all have to put up with the way Google sells and distributes the phones, well, maybe that's part of the price we have to pay to get and use these phones.

If and when Google says it is in the phone business and it wants to do a better job of selling and distributing Google phones, then this thread becomes relevant. Right now, Google is not responding to these ideas because Google is not in the phone business and Google does not care about these ideas. Personally, I only hope Google continues to make phones, so people like me are not required to make purchases from either carriers or manufacturers. I'll put up with these problems for a few weeks a year or every other year for the benefits of the Google phone.
[Nexus 4 General] cvfl:
If we were talking ONLY the first round of product launch, I'd agree with you totally. But if no one figured out that there was going to be a monster amount of people wanting this for the second go... Well, they need a new forecasting team.

It absolutely is enough to hamper production, you're spot on. I've seen not having a certain power resistor idle an entire factory. I flew from DFW to China, loaded my suitcase, and flew to the rainforest. New manufacturers could take a while to bring up a fresh line. But we're not talking about a new manufacturer. LG can reconfigure a line in like 48 hours. I know, yes if caught with their pants totally down there's not enough tooling to mould the plastics and all that, but I'm not sure that's it. Also remember that this is the busiest time of year in most places, but if it didn't get off LGs dock by Thanksgiving, odds are it won't make it into retail stores much before Chrstmas. But if we take a global view there's demand spikes coming in Latin/South America for Valentine's day and Mother's day. So supply needs to come up to meet demand quickly, or the brand falls out of favor with the consumer. I personally think it's suicidal to plan an initial product launch in 4Q. Do it in 3Q, get the production stable, then 4Q is all about the numbers.

If you sell one mobile device for profit, you are in the mobile device business. Google itself said <paraphrasing> it wanted to deliver direct to the consumer, so the brand and customer experience is to enjoy the open Google environment. Alot of us rejoiced at the thought of a user centric device with no bloatware, no doubt. Problem is it failed in product launch, twice. They decided to put out a carrier branded device with all the bloatware in it. And ship them before they take care of the customers who choose to go direct? Well, that just sucks.

Quoting 4-5 week and 7-8 week lead times, means you are selling devices before they are built. But holy shnikies, don't do it for 90% of them! And tell people what's going on. People can't do anything about what the problem really is, but it sure makes people feel better to know while they are patiently waiting. All I'm saying.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ru11er:
Hey guys' hoping someone has an answer..... I'm with wind mobile in Canada on the gnex yakjuux galaxy nexus, I did the hack to change it to a yakjux and install jellybean 4.2.1 which I am currently still on.... I am having problems with my WiFi however and I have tried different radios and ROMs but I still get same issue...

I turn on WiFi and connect

I have strong WiFi for a good 5-10 minutes' then my WiFi stops working

Eventually the WiFi symbol grays out as well as my cell connection, so they are both gray

I reboot and they are back to normal

On jop40d overdrive 2.4, baseband i9250xxlh

:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moshe22:
Are youbhaving any issues with other devices disconnecting from the WiFi? Or is it only your Galaxy Nexus?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evil_penguin:
Flash stock yakju 4.2.1 official factory images.

It mostly will solve the problem.

4.2 is currently buggy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wolfglance:
Are you expenriencing any of those issues mentioned in this thread ? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2047249

Wierd timing..I am reading many having WiFi problems !

Thanks,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rootusr:
Having the exact same issue described in OP, agree this 4.2 has a lot of bugs. I already tried a factory reset
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M3drvr:
And this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2037494

there is an issue with 4.2 and wifi, its quite widely known apparently, but then there are tons of people here who haven't a single problem at all.

Look here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=35496
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ru11er:
Its just my galaxy nexus :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ru11er:
Yes very exact same issues
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ru11er:
I checked the Google link and edited my router settings to aes WPA only... They seem to think that will help... So I'll try and post back if it drops... Thanks

Edit : same issues and I am using a Cisco router
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] M3drvr:
There are several tips in there. I've tried them all, but none worked for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ru11er:
This is just silly... This is supposed to be a highbred sought after phone because of updates and hardware producer... And there are threads upon threads of WiFi issues.. I got my phone and went straight to 4.2.1 does any one know if ICS and earlier jb builds had same problems... And whether it is sw or hw related..?

Edit : this may sound stupid on my behalf, but I rebooted router... I haven't had any drops at all yet...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wolfglance:
Sorry for posting here as well as on my thread..but I am still looking for a solution ...

I tried many tricks without any success ... I wonder if it is related to the internet speed especially that while using my phone at work (extreme high speed connection) I have no problems at all - But at home with a regular high speed connection I have all the problems : can't open the play store stucked on loading, very slow browsing, network timed out ...etc.

Does anyone tried with a higher speed internet connection ? ... what speed are you getting on your phone when all these problems occured...

Thank you,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Matt08642:
My wifi has similar issues. It will work for a random amount of time, then it actually kills my router (D-Link DIR615), requiring a power cycle of the router to get ANY internet working on ANY device...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ru11er:
That's my home network... I am on the xxlh1 radio.... Wow I've never had it work so well, I switch to aes, rebooted router and its been golden ever since... What type of router? I got so mad when my cell provider (wind) blamed router, but it was the problem after all... Everything else connected except nexus..
[LG Thrill 4G] kornklown69:
http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#p925/cm10/next
[LG Thrill 4G] Ecuadude:
:D hopefully we do get cm10 tht would be amazing thx for sharing haha
[LG Thrill 4G] kornklown69:
definitely a place in cmbbq logs for it
[LG Thrill 4G] yourguitarist:
I don't see why we wouldn't get it. Think it'll be on v20p?
[LG Thrill 4G] kornklown69:
Probably
[LG Thrill 4G] archerymodz:
CM 10

You guys do know the P925 can run P920 ROMs right? As long as you are on stock gingerbread to start with. The P920 has CM10 NIGHTLY's out right now and I'm about to flash the latest NIGHTLY.
[LG Thrill 4G] kornklown69:
lemme know how that works for ya lol
[LG Thrill 4G] da44050:
It works perfect on the thrill for me. Using 21d baseband.
[LG Thrill 4G] Ecuadude:
I would like to flash it too but idk if i switch the basebands i wont get service as im on tmobile nd not att:confused::rolleyes:
[LG Thrill 4G] bigfoot.kom:
I can appreciate the fact that lg thrill users can flash and run p920 roms. I've tried an used many. Most of them extremely well made. I believe most lg thrill users are probably upgraded to gb by now. And probably on v20p baseband. It would be very nice to get cm10 for the lg thrill/p925 without having to flash basebands and kdz files to run cm as they would have to by using the p920 version.

Either way the devs are much appreciated.
[LG Thrill 4G] yourguitarist:
I'm running cm10 right now, the only problem I have is that my WiFi is crapping out on me so it would be nice to have a p925 version with the specific drivers that could differ on our v20p baseband
[LG Thrill 4G] kornklown69:
things like rainbows and reboots might be alleviated with a ROM made specifically for the device itself
[LG Thrill 4G] bigfoot.kom:
Hello yourguitarist. Are you presently using cm10 w v20p?
[LG Thrill 4G] yourguitarist:
I'm running cm10 on v21d but I seem to keep having WiFi problems.
[LG Thrill 4G] leo_bsb:
when we flash a KDZ we also change the baseband or do I need to flash a separate file?
[LG Thrill 4G] bigfoot.kom:
21d kdz should be everything. Full file. It will change your phone to a v21d p920.
[LG Thrill 4G] rich_:
I have a P925 and just yesterday flashed cm-10-20130104-NIGHTLY-p920 with a V20p baseband (LGP925AT-01-V20p-310-410-FEB-22-2012+0). I've only had issues with the Automatic date & time reporting incorrectly.

On AT&T, I'm seeing HSDPA speeds hit ~6.0 MBit down / 1.0 MBit up with full signal bars. Battery life seems similar to CM7 ROMs and xbsall's First ICS 4.0.4 SU760 ROM port.

I've attached some screens of the battery drain. It's been idle for the last several hours, and hasn't seem to have kept a WiFi lock all day.

As long as you're using gingerbread or up, your baseband should work fine, afaik.

I thought the P920 and P925 were identical in terms of hardware. You should be able to flash CM10 onto a P925 without changing the baseband to that of a P920 without issue.

Try using the V20p baseband, I haven't had any WiFi issues so far.
[LG Thrill 4G] billy8362:
Are people on the other end hearing echo when talking to you on phone?
[LG Thrill 4G] bigfoot.kom:
Hello. Did you have to flash bernies files to get cm10 to work?
[LG Thrill 4G] tang097:
how do u know which file is 21d baseband?
[LG Thrill 4G] HoboWithCurry:
Bernies

Yes, you can have a p925 with v20p and run a p920 cm10 as long as you flash the bernies.

Download the "rebooter tool" from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1942836 under the extra steps for p920

Open the executable.

Select V21e (option 2) and press enter.

Now take out the battery but be ready to plug it back in.

Connect the USB cable , now you should see a lot of details and at the end of the command line you should see this "Waiting for 5 seconds".

Plug the battery back in right as you see "Waiting for 5 seconds"

Just wait and it will be done. The drivers are also in the download. To install the drivers go to device manager when you plugged in your device and right click, properties, update driver, and browse to that folder. It should find it automatically.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forkmail:
hi...

i have a samsung galaxy note with me.

my service provider is giving good plans for internet for blackberry users..

so is there any way i can spoof my android galaxy note to be recognized as blackberry device so that i can use the plans for blackberry...

thanks :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NIMBAH:
Why would you need to spoof a BlackBerry. Just buy the plan.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forkmail:
the plan for my mobile is like 10 times much higher and i dont get unlimited plan even if i pay the 10 times amount...

but for bb its cheap...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NIMBAH:
You don't need a blackberry to buy the plan. Your purchasing a service from the network, they don't care what phone you have.

What plan is it btw ? And what country are you in ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spunker88:
It would be nice if things worked that way, but unfortunately carriers here in the US get away with forcing plans onto people based on the device they want to use. For example you are forced into buying a data plan with any smartphone on most carriers.

It would be more helpful to get some details from the OP like what carrier they are using. As far as I know the device identity as far as what the carrier sees is tied to the ESN.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forkmail:
its 3g unlimited plan mate...

my friend has a blackberry. hes using 3g unlimited in his mobile. i replaced my sim with his. but i was charged for browsing when using the same sim in my mobile.

so i think my operator is detecting it some how whether im using a blackberry or not...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NIMBAH:
Then its a bbm add on. It can only be used on a BlackBerry. Its not about spoofing.
[LG Optimus 3D] kornklown69:
http://changelog.bbqdroid.org/#p925/cm10/next
[LG Optimus 3D] vananuan:
???

???

so want/s ?

here's Optimus 3D , you're using Samsung ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy55:
Hi,

I have an question i want to install a new rom

This one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1871713

but is says : Status 7 installation abboted

My cwm base version is 6.0.1.9

This was my other qeustion maybe is that helpful for my new qeustion

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35430659#post35430659

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ral7:
Seems you are on the leak Samsung jb with philz kernel. You can flash cm10 kernel or hydracore and then select boot into recovery and then flash the ROM. Boot into recovery will be under "advanced"
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordy55:
And where can i find so fast that kernel

ive been searching but i only found cwm rom's not kernels

Gr.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dannyvld:
You are using Philz kernel, or you want it?

Sent From My Rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 JB 4.1.2 (GT-I9100)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nokiamodeln91:
Hydracore kernel will be in the Original Development Section