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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
My galaxy nexus got just as warm as this phone... never had a problem with it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolnow:
"Faster" cpu here, absolutely no heat problems, even with a case. Games make it warm, but not hot.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exb0:
Mine gets hot to the touch when I game for hours but cool down in minutes.,.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arimus:
Mine is all stock, it only gets warm after playing a game for a while , or using Chrome for a while etc, but the other day something strange happened, I had left it in my jacket pocket went to get it and almost dropped it because it was dam hot, so hot I could not hold it in my hands, turned it off let it cool down , turned it on again and within 2 minutes or so i was getting extremely hot again, looked at the battery drain and the calendar app was using 80 % of the battery, so I did a factory reset, turn it on and now its back to normal, but I do notice way better battery performance, I had to charge it every night when going to bed but now I can go almost 2 days with out a need to charge, not sure what happen but the reset seems to fix it and gives me longer batter life now, but man never had a cell phone so hot in my hands, it felt like i had just pulled a pan out of the oven and burned my hand .
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ykit88:
Seems like everyone has this heat issue, i am very disappointed with the heat issue.

I have the same experience with arimus.

But i have not reset the phone when i'm on 4.2.2.

Problem remains. Now i am on stock 4.2.2 and Franco r115 nightly, with factory wipe. Still same.

Phone battery peak with 41.5 'C with just 10-15 minus using chrome or dolphine ONLY.

May be i should unroot and go back to stock, and do a couple factory reset like arimus did!!

I root because of the heat issue..... anyone have solve the heat problems? probably operating it below 30"C
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exb0:
Run it at 500mhz.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ykit88:
Trying 1.02 cpu mhz with System Tuner, see if its cooling down...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dia_naji:
Mine does get a little warm, but compared to other devices as I have explained in this thread the nexus 4 doesn't get as hot as other devices. My only speculation is that because of the glass. Link to explain it all :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ingenious247:
So far I have only had my Nexus 4 for about 4 days.

I've been playing a few games that I knew made my Galaxy S3 warm, and tried them on my Nexus.

So far I am happy to report, I don't see any unusual heat coming from it all ALL. I mean it will get warm when playing for an hour or so (as would ANY smart phone) but never gets hot to the touch or throttled due to heat.

It sucks too because my screen is defective but the rest of the phone is simply amazing. I'm worried when I get my replacement I might get a good screen but end up with a slew of other issues (wifi issues, thermal throttling, poor speaker, etc)

Such a tough decision.. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist and I don't know if I can keep looking at the screen defect without it driving me crazy.. but on all other accounts this phone craps on my Galaxy S3 hands down (except camera, but it's good enough for me anyway)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NamNamNom:
Guuuysss, Nexus 4 doesn't have a temperature sensor for the cpu, just for the battery
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Havent seen anything different to any other smart phone. It gets hotter than normal when on and on the orb but nothing that makes me worry or stops it from charging like having the old Evo in the dash mount in the sun would.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kurtph1969:
Had mine a couple of weeks and yes it is getting quite hot with screen on, especially when charging. Also had it up to about 45oC with bluetooth on (not charging). No reboots fingers crossed and it is cooling down quickly when not in use.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiru.adi13:
Heats up only under heavy gaming....

But cools down in 10-15 min :)

Sent from my Nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopezk38:
Mine heats up really quickly with light usage. Browsing the web can get mine up to 120 degrees, gaming can push it past 140
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
120 converts to about 48C. 140 is around 60C. Your CPU is barely warm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farangutan:
I only notice my n4 getting hot when I use it heavy outside in the sun on a hot day.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopezk38:
Hit 85 Celsius today... Almost too hot to touch
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
thats always fun to do, its not that easy :angel:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
What were the ambient temperatures? Indoors or outside gaming in 90F?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopezk38:
Inside, a little warm, but still hotter then I've ever seen it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] napyaninja:
Any solutions ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freshly_Snipes:
I hit 107 F... This is daily and i don't play games at all. I've had 5 Nexus 4 devices and they all had the same issue. If I'm in my doctor's office, outside or in the car and it's a spring/summer day or while reading Google Currents. I tried to downclock.. No good. I gave up and just live with it now.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
107F isnt even near hot, its barely warm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
Most of the people don't have any problem, therefore... No solution. I'm surprised at the limited knowledge here of how much heat processors generate, I thought it was pretty common knowledge among those tech savvy, computer nerd type people. I wonder how many people are feeling heat from their own hand being reflected off their phone. My hands are always sweaty and that happens to me, it'll feel hot browsing the web, I'll hold it up to my cheek and it feels barely luke warm. Anything below 100* is safe. There is a fail safe for a reason. 60* should be considered standard operating temps under a moderate load in room temperature but not an absolute baseline temp. Processors vary, they have manufactering tolerances just like anything else, some run hotter, some run cooler but they are all within spec. Under the same load outside on a 90*F day, 70*C is peachy, no problems. Under heavy loads, 85* or more can happen regardless of ambient temp. We reallllly need a sticky about this. Undervolting can help but there isn't exactly an issue in the first place. If it bothers anyone, a case will keep it from feeling hot in their hand but probably increase cpu temps by insulating it more.. All device temperatures I mention are in Celsius, all ambient air temperatures are in Fahrenheit.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fahadsul3man:
mine gets warm not hot :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hp420:
If I spend 15 minutes using chrome mine gets pretty warm....I'd say on the borderline of warm & hot. I haven't ever checked the temp because I'm afraid of what I may see lol Maybe I should though so if it's that hot I can do a warranty claim and get one that doesn't have cracked back glass lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musashihatred:
well, i play Dungeon Hunter 4 for an hour, mobile on, screen about 50%, GPU 6oomhz, 1800 max CPU freq. doesnt get hot. stays at 60 (pretty normal for just standard usage). - Faux Kernel. if im using Franco, it reaches about 70+ .
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freshly_Snipes:
Are you joking? According to LG the phone should never reach over 101 degrees.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clepsy:
What in the world of... please make the difference of fahrenheit and celsius
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
do you know what youre talking about? do you realize that your body averages 98.6F? anyways, lg is talking about 101C, the phones safety will shut the phone down at 100C. 100C is 212F, the boiling point of water. 101F water wouldnt even feel warm on your hand, barely maybe. you should learn what the difference is between F and C.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freshly_Snipes:
We were discussing Fahrenheit if you'd read the post before it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
but lg isnt talking fahrenheit, they are using celsius. 101F and 101C are completely different.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freshly_Snipes:
We use "F" here and the perception between what's hot and warm is opinion. 107F is hot to me and to my touch and you can't tell me otherwise. My wife's bath water is too hot to touch for me but she can sit right in it.

I never mentioned celsius so idk where that even came from in the conversation. I clearly spoke to LG, Tmobile and Google last week and that's what I was told. I have another RMA issue and they asked me for the temperature. I told them what I've been observing and they said that was far too hot for a prolonged amount of time. But not dangerous, but could lead to issues.

Some over heating is to be expected as there is no cooling fans in the device. I think you either read it of context or your understanding of American English is lost in translation. No need to be snooty.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morfic:
Poor Texans, can never own a Nexus or any phone :>

And you better never run on a warm day with a phone in your pocket....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Freshly_Snipes:
They clearly were talking F. I have an open trouble ticket. Were you on the phone with me for over an hour? I think not.

Let's drop the issue. Don't want to take this thread off topic. Please.

I added my 2 cents and I'm done.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
no snootiness implied, and english is my native language. but you have to use common sense too. we use F here in the US, but everywhere else in the world they use C. knowing what 101F is, you shouldnt even consider it in the same category as something overheating, especially the cpu of an electronic device, which are made to handle high temps. and "feel" is the most inaccurate way to measure temps. it isnt a temp. feel is comparing something to another. try this.. get 3 glasses of water, one hot, one ice water, and the third room temp. stick one hand in the ice water for a full minute, the other hand in the hot water for a full minute(both hands in theirt water at the same time). then after the minute, put both hands in the room temp water. the hand that was in the ice water will feel the room temp water as warm, the hand that was in the hot water will feel the room temp water as cold. now you have your own hands in the same glass of water, but both your hands are "feeling" it completely different.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morfic:
Then how do you explain that the phone does not even start throttling until the cpu is way above 38.3C? (Your 101F)

Do you know how hot cpus/gpu/chipsets get before most of them get a critical shutdown issued?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morfic:
"Here" is a techy environment, where traditionally cpu temperatures are measured in Celsius.

Simms might be new to the US, but he's aware that Fahrenheit is used in non techy environments.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
you can get an open trouble ticket for anything. it doesnt change the fact that 107F isnt hot. if it is hot for you, then stay away from the majority of electronics with moderately powerful or powerful cpus, and stay off the streets in the summer, because that concrete/blacktop will warm the air around you and your phone, raising the temperature of the phone over 101F(by a lot) with you not even using it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morfic:
About the "they agreed with me" well duh "the customer is king" and with Google more so than with other companies.

They are not going to argue and tell you that you are wrong when you call in all upset and frustrated, ever consider that?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
after taking several photos outside in the sunshine and summer heat, my phone reached 55C, which is 131F, my battery reached 110.3F, which both temps are completely normal in the summer heat. if i would play a cpu/gpu intensive game outside at that point, i wouldnt be surprised to see a temp of 70-75C, which is 158-167F, which would be normal too.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compuw22c:
Someone wasted an hour of their life on this? Wow. My phone is set to throttle at 78C or 178F. If you're worried about near 100F you're not very familiar with electronics... Give the phone to someone with a fever to hold even with it off and it'll hit 100F, it's no big deal. My SII would hit at least 60C/140F on a regular basis and that was last gen dual core. The i7 in my laptop throttles at 90C (194F) and shuts down at 100C (212F). The S4/GPU can handle quite a bit of heat, and because it's powerful can put out quite a bit.

Now I recently installed a pioneer appradio in my car, I use it via miracast, and it sits in my black center console (just above the exhaust) in my convertible. And because the screen standby app was acting funky it's screen stays on and it's charging all the time. Bottom line is that thing gets much hotter than I bet most people have experienced here (like you don't want to touch it and it would fell uncomfortable to put in your pocket without cooling down) but it takes it like a champ every single day and for what I'm asking it to do I expect it to get hot. Still works fast and reliable, what else do you want?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
Fck yeah, educated support from morfic and simms. Though even still, all you "overheating whizzes who know more about CPUs than the people who manufacture them" still won't believe them either. Ignorance... I mean come on. Processors run on the notion of using extremely high resistance internals. What happens when you apply a high amount of resistance to an electrical circuit? Heat! Heat is the byproduct of a properly functioning CPU. Me, simms, morfic, and anyone else I may have forgetten gave more than enough examples and reasoning but no one believes us. I bet if you guys looked up the thermal specs on Intel's website and saw that they were rated to 100*C you would still call them liars and claim their **** is defective.

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No, they weren't. Any tech related, CPU, GPU temperatures etc... Is ALWAYS measured and discussed about in Celsius.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
You're going on and on about they mean F. When they clearly don't. People are telling you over and over again and you still don't listen.

But let's use your logic that you swear is right. The phone should never reach 101F. Right now as I type this the weather is 103 F in phoenix AZ. So by your logic the phone should never even be used there today. Since the phone can not be cooler than the ambient air. Go outside it's going to be hotter than the magical 101 F that LG says the phone should never go past. Even if the device is off it will overheat.

It's Celsius. And even if you didn't know that you should know better.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
From the official documents for the device.

Battery temp is regulated up to 45 C while charging.

Never store above 122f.

Then of course there is actual kernel source / thermald that has the normal operating temps and the shutdown temps.

Video showing the actual file on stock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf7nPiUUE8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compuw22c:
I have a feeling the battery regulation is only to stop charging at 45C (which it does) but it will certainly continue to operate while CPU temps climb to up to 78/80C depending on custom kernel settings and I know I've seen battery temps of at least 52C, still no problems :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fatherboard:
303K here, gets noticeably hot under normal use. kinda annoying.

What really annoys me, is that the cpu throttles down to 1.1Ghz when the device is reaching 38~ c' in StabilityTest. It's ridiculous. it never provides 1.5ghz under full load, maybe for a minute or two.

I still use a stock ROM but there's no reason it won't be able to reach 1.5ghz under full load for long periods.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
some custom kernels disable thermald, like trinity kernel. so the battery temp will be regulated by its safety at 60C, when the phone will shut down if the battery hits it.

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its when the battery temp reaches 38C, and again, some custom kernels do away with that.

i run my phone at 1836 a lot, and i never get throttled down, even when it does get hot. the kernel i use disables the battery temp throttle, and i turn off cpu thermal throttle. so my phone has 100% to give me, whenever i want it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
Yup. I was just pointing out the official stock temperature rating / control is obviously higher than 101F. And the idea that the device should never reach that temperature is just ridiculous.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RussianBear:
Quick question: when you download a large file (or stream something for a while) over LTE, does your phone heat up quite a bit? (Past 45C battery temp) Is the heat signal dependent? Trying to figure out if getting a signal booster is worth it, since mine heats up quite a bit when the signal goes over triple digit dbm (i believe that's equivalent to one bar of service). Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
if its purely about cpu temp, is probably not worth it. i dont think that a signal booster would make a big impact on temps, maybe a degree or two. it would still get pretty warm if streaming a movie or downloading a large file even if you had a good signal. but, with a good signal, it wont take as long to download, so time has some impact on the cpu temp, however minimal it might be. but anyways, i would rather have a better signal, so a signal booster is worth it :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RussianBear:
It's not the cpu temp I'm worried about, rather the battery one (hence the 45 Celsius cutoff). Hspa doesn't get as hot (it is slower and I get better signal at home). I think the cel-fi deal boosts "4g" only, not lte. Debating on trying it out, anyway. Another company jdteck seems to have lte boosters, but I haven't done enough research.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TacticalDesire:
Whenever I'm playing an intensive game, outside In the summer or, using it with poor reception it does get a little toasty. Not unbearable or too worrisome though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raidrom:
It was said before if you have a regular Sim card cut down to a micro sim it will cause heat issues . and guess what mine is also . just never been able to make it to bell to get a micro Sim and I keep forgetting . I flashed the stock root and kernel from android development and my phone never gets hot now . almost every ROM uses linaro and that is the worse for heating up our phones. 1 ROM in January ran fine no heating .then the Dev built with dumb linaro toolchains etc and my phone instantly heated up after flashing and just browsing the web . try a factory kernel and ROM
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
i doubt its because of a cut down sim card. the phone will heat up when you use it, no matter what kind of sim card, thats just how it is. it wont heat up as much in the winter because of cooler air temps, but in the summer it can get very hot. that is normal. after flashing itll always be warmer than normal. it uses the cpu when flashing, and all the background syncing going on after a flash.

btw, what kind of temperatures are you talking about, battery and cpu?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EvoXOhio:
I think it's just the way it's made. I'm on my second Nexus and they've both done it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maine_Coon:
Mine gets warm, not hot. I can live with that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidKills:
Mine gets warm too, but coming from another LG Device ( G2x) it doesn't seem surprising to me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
My Nexus4 gets hot more frequently now than ever. I usually have it on the orb charger throughout the day and then when out and about plugged into an Anker-10,000MAH. I'm sitting here watching it on the orb charger reaching 102.9f, it will typically reach into the 115f range while plugged into the Anker until it will overheat and no longer charge until it cools. Its been hot here lately and thats when I notice this happening more often, although I can't remember this happening at all a few months ago. Just my experience so far :silly:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RussianBear:
If you constantly charge it and use it a lot at the same time, the act of charging will enhance the temps quite a bit. If you're not doing anything, the charging itself shouldn't increase the temps drastically.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] konfidential:
My phone gets warm... doesn't bother me though... it's like having a laptop in your pocket:D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kawika:
I found this with a quick google search... http://goo.gl/YEOsj Down at the bottom of the article it has an 800 number. It looks like enough of us have had this issue that they didn't even make me do the factory reset over the phone. They said they wanted me to do a couple steps before they flipped me over to warranty, I told them honestly I didn't want to waste the time and she said ok! haha, easiest warranty exchange ever! :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RussianBear:
Are you shipping first or they're going to debit your credit card and you'll ship after the new one comes in?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovesingh25:
While browsing web it gets little warm but still bearable. Can u please specify ur surrounding temperatures and also if ur using and case or cover etc. I think these are pretty important factor to consider also.

I have a case but i prefer to remove it while gaming to prevent excessive heating and it actually works well

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hlaraujo:
I think it's normal it is heating up, it's a quad-core phone with high clock speed and the default governor (ondemand) probably is making it stay in high frequencies while you are playing games and/or multitasking... getting hot while charging and using it is also normal as well... mine was getting hot and all I did was root the device and set the max clockspeed to 1.2 GHz and the minimum to 384 Mhz, it's more than I really need for playing my games and doing any other things I usually do and the heating problem is gone, now it gets just a little warm with heavy usage
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altoprime:
with normal use it doesn't get hot. but with excessive use and gaming, it is normal to get hot.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] catchem99:
it does get warm when browsing the web, but i'm coming from evo 4g, and that thing runs much hotter than the N4.

so it's good enough for me :o
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RussianBear:
Hspa definitely doesn't get nearly as hot. I can be downloading a large file at 1mb down and the battery will stay under 40C. Bought the cel-fi booster of eBay to see how it works.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meangreenie:
Looks like the browser itself might have something to do with it; I use Aosp and it runs fairly cool on wifi even in this crappy 35 degrees plus heat we have in the south uk atm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
how much did you spend on the cell booster? i heard they were expensive... like $300+. you do know that a brand new battery is around $20 right?