yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
Screen shots...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
OP Updated

OK runnin' behind today, new link up, fixed PA pref problems, Updated PA base to 2.99. Fixed a couple other things. Killok found some 4.2 Gapps that seam to be playing well, link in OP, go hit this guys thanks button! Starting on optimizing all images now. I think it's safe to say this build spanks the initial release in every way. More to come ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
Is gps working fine ?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
I'm e-sited!! Football day... You're allowed to be behind :D

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Always at noon on Sunday when I'm at work :mad: damn you!!

Lol. Can't wait to get home. Thanks Jamie.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
I just got a lock in 15 seconds to 3 meters with Google maps. Outside/cloudy

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] corcgaigh:
A full wipe is recommended ?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
How's the LTE to eHRPD hand off compared to deck's cm10? This is the only thing holding me back from flashing this rom..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
I'm having a hell of a time trying to get rid of the clock in the status bar.

Anyone else see the same?

It goes off for a bit then comes back on. I've gone through the settings a ba-jilllion times and can't find anything conflicting.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fredgar75:
Yes he said it a few posts back. :D

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
I was able to get it to stay of through ROM controls, clock, remove...

Also, how about them Seahawks!! I grew up in Washington and have been a die hard fan thick and thin... mostly thin...LOL. Getting ready for a trip back in March. Russell Wilson is pulling a Beast Mode game along Marshawn.

***Edit*** my bad.. after a restart the clock did come back.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Hand off is working great here.

I have troubles with settings sticking on a reboot but that's about it. Can you pull me a log?

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
For sure.

I updated the PA link in my [how to] post as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35313040&postcount=136
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bobarune:
Sounds great! Time to get to work
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Logcat Attached.

I noticed it came on as soon as I woke up the device and unlocked via my pattern.

Is it that first line? recent* CLOCK should be recent clock*?

12-16 14:46:43.526 D/PhoneStatusBar(625): disable: < expand* icons alerts ticker* system_info BACK HOME recent* CLOCK >
12-16 14:46:43.546 D/NfcService(795): NFC-C ON
12-16 14:46:43.566 D/PhoneStatusBar(625): disable: < expand icons alerts ticker system_info back* home* recent clock* >
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Thin is right! Many years watching them struggle. Doin pretty good lately. I'm a Washingtonian myself.

As for status bar clock: I have mine centered and it stays like that. But, status bar transparency will randomly stop. Well, may have rebooted, I'll pay attention next time. Probably conflicts with CM/AOKP overwrites/overrides maybe . I'm still on V18
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
totally missed this post.

I'm more of a proper football(futbol) supporter.

But yea, my facebook feed is always blowing up after a seahawks win. especially the cardinals game.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
Weird, but after tinkering around with some other B.S. and doing a mod that required a clear cache/dalvik and reboot again, the clock is now gone.

**Also, nice win for the Seahawks!!*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
just tried to wipe my cache/dalvik. still showing up.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
how long should it be at the loading screen with the pacman symbols?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
10 seconds?

if it gets stuck hold down the power button until reboot and it will go through fine.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
is that after the first initial flash?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] theultimatev:
I decided to upgrade to the latest even though it was working fine and upgrading is a pain in the @$$ (I have a LOT of modification to redo), and holy shnitzel this thing is fast! over 200mb of ram free without running v6. I think the latest is a pretty fine piece of work :) thanks, LOTK!

EDIT: at 250 mb ram free with other apps running. This things is keeping par with my nexus 10 for performance!

EDIT 2: Last edit I promise...300mb with all apps installed and services running. That is all.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
so i tried flashing this rom and cant it to boot up past the loading screen. sits there at the pacman screen with htc below it. ideas?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Enhanced COD tweaks are built in to the ram disk, using other means of adjusting lowmem or oom settings is not recommended, as they will most likely not play well with the other parameters like Dirty ratio dirty background VFS cache pressure, and min free values.

Enhanced COD has been shown to perform superbly well and in thousands of hours of testing holds up better than some of the other methods and apps available. Not only do they provide for an exceptionally snappy feel, they work wonders for multitasking and are more than acceptable for hard gaming.

Quadrants will not reflect this but really, quads are for checking the size of the epeenie, they do stand out in real world use. ;)

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Are you coming from the earlier version of this rom or from another rom?

If earlier version of this rom - try holding down the power button until black then let go. wait 5 seconds and press power down again to boot. If it doesn't get past boot then let me know so we can troubleshoot more.

If you are coming from another rom you will need to do a full wipe before installing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Are you Son? If so you will need to flash the boot.IMG first.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
i am indeed S-on. Can you tell me how to flash the boot image. sorry to ask.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
ahhh..

use this.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] theultimatev:
You, sir, deserve to go in my signature ;) I wasn't a huge LOTK fan on my OG Evo, but this build is phenomenal! I did use v6 on top of the enhanced cod tweaks, but have only have additionally great performance. The script found a lot of the pre-existing tweaks and didn't mess with them. I wondered how I was already 75% supercharged when I loaded up the rom for the first time haha
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
do i have to do restore my backup, then download it then reflash everything?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
I would:

Download that app

Download the boot.img

flash the boot image

reboot to recovery

wipe everything

install the rom

Just found something that might be easier for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1917106
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
giving it a whirl!

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sadly its still not working... im coming from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1712618

i flashed the new boot image through the link, wiped installed wiped and got nothing. sorry to be a pain i just really want to use this rom!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Did you wipe cache, dalvic cache, factory reset, and wipe system before flashing the rom? You could always fast boot the bootimg the old fashioned way too. It's a stickied thread titled don't panic

Edit here is a Link to that thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31102864
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Yea, I would make sure you are doing a full wipe.

What's the highest revision of PA you guys have been able to flash?

I couldn't get the latest 2.99.8r2 to work or 2.99.8 trying 2.99.5 now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] corcgaigh:
I grabbed the one from lens flares locked thread. It says 2.99
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schnergun:
this is my first time trying to flash it. i am doing full wipes. something i just noticed is when i get to the part where i wipe the dalvik cache again it fails....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
That's the one using too:D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
I'm running dry on things to try. I'm sure another user with more experience will help out soon.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
Recovery and version?

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And have you tried the fast boot flash of the boot.IMG?

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] buzzwyzr:
Anyone else's settings menu "off" just a bit? I'm talking about the right hand portion BTW.

The DPI is set to 245 in PA settings and I haven't messed with that yet. Should that be a different value?

Thanks.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] CaptainCool:
Edit: Quoted wrong person

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Are you s-on or s-off? I had a hard time getting the rom to flash initially and I'm s-on.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Yea it looks centered justification instead of left justification. I changed it in PA settings the size to 320 then layout of 360. I like it a lot better.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
So, to get this straight, did you:

1) nand back to sense

2) using flash image GUI locate the ROM zip , then the boot.IMG inside

3) select flash kernel in flash image GUI

4) proceed to recovery

5) wipe caches, factory reset, wipe system all multiple times

6) flash ROM thru recovery

?

You're on the latest TWRP? You check md5 for good DL?

Also, before doing any of that make sure you have solid GPS lock while still in sense.

I want you to be able to run this. Best ROM for Evo LTE on xda

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I just looked in PA settings and other places. How do you change left or centered justification? And thanks for the values.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
Dang loving the ROM but GPS ain't locking.. tried the stock and get a lock then flash the ROM.. any suggestions
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I'm LOVING V18. Anyone tell me what they think is better about 21?

TIA

Edit: nevermmimd. Jumping in now. Thanks to Jamie
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] buzzwyzr:
This.

It does look better with your values. But I can't find where to make everything left adjusted.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dnathan13:
Download gps status from market, enter app, go to tools, manage agps, and reset satellites then download the agps info. Give it a few minutes and try getting a lock.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jcross1324:
Anyone have issues with wifi, either not connecting or taking forever to connect to a saved network? I have had this problem on this rom and CM10. I just flashed viper to see if it was a phone issue, but I am not having this problem with viper at all. Just curious.....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Unfortunately I don't think there is anything we can do without jumping into the ROM source. We will have to let Jamie hash this out.

Mine would usually catch pretty fast when I would turn wifi off then back on when I get this issue. But it only happens pretty rarely.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jcross1324:
That is weird... Mine constantly does this.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Are you on his latest or his first release?

I chose to wipe everything before flashing his latest and I don't think I've had the wifi issue yet.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
In wifi settings set frequency to 2.4G only and be sure avoid poor connections is not set. You might also

Flash the Komodo kernel. Thick keeps up with decks commits. This kernel is built from cm source so it will be behind.

Hey hit me up with those settings. Pretty sure I can just add them to the PA conf files and we should be set up. I haven't honestly taken the time to optimize all the PA stuff for our device, too busy updating us to 2.99 so any help is appreciated. :thumbup:

Also, try to stick to an early 2.99 version of the preference app, I'm using the one from lens_flares rom, and all functionality seems to be good. Getting some ROM control settings to "stick" is in the works now.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
I wasn't able to fix the justification. Only the PA settings to make it more usable.

Attached is what we are seeing by default and also what I changed it to to make settings more visible.

And I ended up using the Lens_Flare PA as well. didn't have any luck with the newer versions from PA for the toroplus.

I'm going to edit my PA how to link to that zip.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
WHOA! My clock is gone!!!!

weird.

*Edit*

haha nm i'm an idiot and need my coffee.

I changed it to center and changed the font to black. *facepalm*
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
I found this with pa and cmx if you flash the ROM and boot the 1st time without gapps aka 1st boot doesn't go through setup, then GPS won't work cuz the location settings get messed up. But if you flash the ROM and gapps then go through 1st boot then it works fine.

I tried either way 6 times, and every time was the same result.

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That's after doing the GPS reset in a sense ROM :D

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jcross1324:
I was on the release before this. I will try the new release later today and see if it changes!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
How are you guys getting the PA apk from lens_flares thread, all links are gone? :confused:

Edit: and it seems I was getting better battery on v18, is it just me ? (and I know it's probably too early to REALLY tell)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] corcgaigh:
Battery life was better for me also on first release by a long way. I haven't looked into it too much but it looks like Google now and maps are keeping the phone from sleeping
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
I updated my link that is referenced in post #2

It will take you right to the DL site.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
Lol that's old news. They are pests make sure "reporting device location" is not enabled in msps .

But what kernel? And settings? Um still getting super life with komodo 21 even over clocked. And underclocked when screen off

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Still have the zip. I can try and send it later after I get off work

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Yeah that's due to flashing the 4.2 gapps. Lol They're cool buy GNow eats battery if you dont set it up to not follow your every move. The kernel was unchanged with this release.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
http://d-h.st/0tf
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] corcgaigh:
So if I flash an older gapps package will it overwrite the 4.2 gapps. I really don't find anything special about the 4.2 gapps anyways. Actually the 4.2 gapps is the only thing different for me between 1st and 2nd release. I flashed komodo 21 as soon as I flashed this cause battery life was so good on v18
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Wipe cache/dalvik & sytem (dont wipe data or factory reset), then reflash ROM & earlier gapps. I definitely recommend Komodo as well ;)

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scataldo721:
I flashed with komodo and 4.2 gapps and its working perfect thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
Do u guys use the performance control or do u use kernel tuner ?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
I use ROM tool box pro for CPU profiles

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Hhmmm. Weird. Cuz I flashed the old 1011 gapps, and all the rest of my set up is identical. Stock kernel. Both stock kernel. And I disable Google now. Weird. I'll look into it more.

Thanks.

I suspect something IS screwy on my end, cuz I just found I don't even have gmail installed. That shouldn't happen after a gapps flash, should it.

Last: I've been complaining since ICS about how if you don't have default app (for browser, gallery, etc.) set up, you have to select your app, then select 'just once'. Useless extra button press introduced in ICS / JB. ROM control allows you to revert to GB single click. Woohoo. :thumbup:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] corcgaigh:
Kernel tuner here
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] hal3146:
Has anybody tried running this with the newest firmware? I updated tried mean and flexes JB roms and am looking to switch back.

Just worried I might run into problems due to firmware upgrade before flashing.

For those wondering while both mean and flexes ROMs are good they are still not as fluid and smooth at Pacman.

Thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Nothing is as fluid as PACman :thumbup:

As for firmware, I saw one person say it didn't play nice with AOSP, but then 3 others to pop in and say 'no problems here'.

Honestly, it shouldn't matter. Should be just fine.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drlzanej:
Really nice work jamie, Well done. Thanks:cool:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] theultimatev:
Yup, I have camera and keyboard (don't actually use but just to make sure I don't have another experience where I flash a rom, boot, and have no keyboard lol) and clock and the whole shebang. No problems here
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MagicalSandwich:
Can't wait to get home and try this out, looks like it's gonna be great.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drob311:
Runs great so far. Thanks for this! I'm going to go shovel snow, test out the headphones. Thanks again! Awesome work! :beer:

Edit: No problems at all with the headphones. Smooth as a babies a$$! Tremendous work!

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
So... Were you able to flash the 4.2 gapps, or did you manually add those apps? I haven't even tried yet, I've been working on another project for the lte. Appreciate the feedback man!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Cj719:
Jamie I know this is the 1st release for us but will the PA base be updated from 2.55 to 2.99

Sent from lens flared PA
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sinistertensai:
oh LOTK made it to the LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] theultimatev:
I flashed a 4.1 to 4.2 upgrade zip which included those apps and some other stuff. I flashed the 4.1.2 gapps and then applied inverted gapps on top of that. So idk if 4.2 gapps were installed somewhere in the process lol

UPDATE: these are the inverted gapps: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1797292
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kendallc123:
Bang bang! Wish I had an LTE Jamie. Nice work!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dakota123456789:
Jamie, bro.

Jamie, broheim is there any way I can download the Paranoid Preferences apk somehow someway cause I'm a **** ton of a lot more use to that then aokp tablet mode.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Hey thanks for the explanation, I'll check these out and maybe put together a zip with the 4.2 stuff that don't break things.

You have to pull it from a PA ROM. ;) By the request of the PA team we can not include the app in the ROM. Sorry.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
Sorry almost missed you! I will be updating PAC as szl.kiev updates the master branch of it. Not sure about what plans are for updating the aokp and pa bases, I do know this will more than likely be updated to 4.2 before that time comes. ;)

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dakota123456789:
Aight thanks breh

Aight htanks breh
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] midmadn:
I have no idea which gapps to download. There's like 50 different ones at that link.

Thanks for the Rom and any advice as to which gapps to dl.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Work on a Sunday?!? DRAG!

I've got 4.2 keyboard/gmail/camera/gallery running right now on this with no issues so far.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] CwbAnDroidCwB:
Still can get that MMS overlap fixed
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
20121011
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
I believe you want 1011 gapps, or d/l the ones in the CM10 OP

Figured it out, I explain it here. Hope that helps.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
One thing I'm not seeing is the PA system settings.

Is it the kernel I'm running?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] CwbAnDroidCwB:
Thanks but still no dice
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
New firmware here and it works perfect for me on pacman. I have strong 4g with perfect hand off
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] hal3146:
Good to know about the firmware eventually I will learn my lesson and stay on AOSP type roms but every time a new Sense based ROM comes out I feel the need to try it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Any ideas what's going on here?

*edit - figured it out. Because I don't have stock font.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
Firmware should not have an effect on AOSP/AOKP ROMs.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] corcgaigh:
Agree with all of this
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
I've always had to manually install gmail after gapps flash lol

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] michaellu:
Google navigation crashes after 5-10 second..anyone having similar issues..I can get a GPS lock but Google navigation opens runs for abit ..screen glitches and then app closes but still running in background.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] reeher3287:
Nothing here so far.....

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
This is a common problem from the CM base, it appears to not effect everyone equally. I use Nav to find customers houses several times a day and have not had issues. You may find this post helpful- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35571799

Sent from my EVO

Edit: Planned on an update this weekend then I saw this-
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
^^^^^never before has lol meant so much.

That said, I'm rolling back to V18. All things equal, same apps, same use, I'm getting about ⅓ the battery out of V2. not wanting to sound like complaining, I love this ROM. But I have all the same setup as V18 (which often made me think my battery gauge was broken cuz it just held forever) but for some reason am getting wicked battery drain on nee release.

Not a complaint at all. Please take it as constructive criticism (as was said is welcome) and nothing else. If you have any suggestions or tips that'd be great, but 18 I got insane battery life out of the box.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ManUtd07:
Anyone having issues with notification LEDs on the new build? Haven't had a chance to flash yet but am looking forward to it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MagicalSandwich:
That's odd, I'm using the same setup I had on v18 and I'm still getting great battery life on the newest release.

Did you try disabling location checking in maps? Not sure if that's exactly what the setting is called

Edit: Location reporting is what the setting is

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
Looks like you're in for some pretty hot shyyt .. :D

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
Same as OG build. Using light flow lite for now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
That's cuz it's the end of the world for Christ sakes. But if anyone feels that's a reason to shoot up an elementary school,... I swear to christ I will find you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
I'll second that emotion.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?featur...ch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kilokk:
:D Old school...

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] remedy1419:
anyone having issues with the bottom mic not working / being really quiet?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AG206:
in call? while recording?

have you tried multiple recording apps and called multiple people on different carriers at different times to make sure it's not one apk or carrier?