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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realfelix:
Guys, it's a highend phone, what do you expect?

Do you expect a high-end CPU in a desktop PC to run cool? Even in standby an i7 can go up to 30-40°C depending on voltage. And for four cores at 1.512 MHz theres a lot of voltage needed. Don't worry about it unless you get reboots thats not normal.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dmwitz:
If the problem continues, send them up here to the north of Sweden. It's gonna be -25°C tomorrow and I could do with some handwarmers ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaiowas82:
I've had a overheating while playing stupid zombies 2, the phone got hot as ever, but strangely seems to be a ROM related problem, as I had this issue with aokp, while on cm10, playing the same game, the phone get lightly warm, but no more. I was using Franco kernel on both too
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoicism:
never more than a little warm with extensive use.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidd3v:
I'm on stock, updated the phone to whatever is the latest version that google pushed and i just started playing Angry brids for about 10 mintues and the phone got noticeably warm. I guess this is the new 'normal' now?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
Mine only gets hot when I'm charging it and using it at the same time.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lockeskidney:
I have a battery widget and at times when on calls ive gotten up to 101F

i want to say my phone runs warmer than my buddy running the same widget
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bass++:
Mine has only been hot after charging on the Panasonic pad. If the glass breaks from it then RMA!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baudfather:
It certainly gets hot, but only slightly more than my Samsung GS1 i9000. Fact of life when running a quad core at these speeds without a fan.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huntedsoul12:
Mine does it too but m not complaining :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krysdafur:
Mine gets pretty hot. G SAM app reports that the battery has reached 110*f from internet browsing on 3g.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riko540:
I noticed mine gets pretty warm if I use it for a while just browsing the web.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdviper:
Mines fine during normal usage. Except when I play graphically demanding games such as need for speed most wanted, after the first race, the screen and the back near the top is hot. Worried about it, I remember the HTC sensation used to get real hot as well, but I've also got an aftermarket battery which also helped with the heat.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxFTW:
Mine gets hot as well when playing 3D games and using slow internet (seriously, lol)

But, Im using FK with -75 mv UV so its ok with everyday use
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
Mine still gets hot LTE browsing

Uv -100

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sub1287:
Lol some of these posts are funny. If I handed you guys my phone after I've been beating on it a bit you'd probably think the thing was about to explode.

sent from my RasBean & Trinity N4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omergohan:
Mine doesn't get super hot, I guess it's what you guys consider warm. My galaxy s2 before this use to get way hotter. The nexus 4 gets warm at most in comparison.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lt_knox:
Mine gets really really hot all the time
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roxy:
Mine does get slightly warm at times - but not what I would consider ' hot '.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] budjb:
What app are you guys running to monitor temps?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] denimjunkie82:
All these posts are useless without objective measurements. How how does it get? Are you basing it off of battery temp or CPU temp? Just saying "pretty hot", "not hot", "very hot" won't help much.

My CPU went up to 75c last night, supposedly. I used System Tuner app to get that measurement. I think those are dangerous levels of heat. I flashed a different kernel and now I can't replicate it anymore, nor do I want to.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] versd:
Gets hot when running games. Just forums, emails, browsing and music it stays cool.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] galaxys:
After 3 weeks, I have not felt it hot anytime...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerwagon:
Bogus...my Note 2 never gets hot and I'm pretty sure it's a high end phone. You either have an app that's hung open or a processor issue. It's a pain in the ass, but I would start fresh with no apps and play your games to see how the heat is...I would then start adding apps back one by one. It's a lengthy process, but it's better than having to wait a few days to weeks for a new phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dielac:
I'm using my nexus as a portable Wi-Fi hot spot. My friend is streaming Netflix on his iPad and I'm just browsing the web. About an inch from the top of the phone in the middle it's pretty warm on the glass screen and back. System Tuner is reading 62c.. I could not imagine it at 75c nor do I want to. If I press my finger on the back I'm borderline burning myself. Running AOKP.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yo2boy:
The Droid DNA never gets as hot as the N4's being discussed here.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noyade233:
Anyone else have problems with the phone getting warm/hot up around the earpiece when making a call over 6-7 minutes? I'm still trying things out but it looks like it happens when I make VoIP calls over the vonage app? After about 6 minutes the earpiece section of the phone starts getting much warmer. I will need to try and make a call over my plan minutes and see if it does the same but for now I have only noticed it while testing out VoIP.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazbutler1:
hi,

just moved from the galaxy s3 to nexus 4. Absolutely love this phone but a little worried as it seems to be running warm all the time. Even when phone is idling and hasnt been used it can be warm to touch. This tends to happen mostly when at work where im not connected to wifi, although i do have a strong hsdpa signal. The phone gets warm around the top left hand side on the back near the camera.

Was just wondering if this is normal for this phone or whether i may have a bad egg. Cpu idle temps according to system tuner are about 35.0c under use most ive noticed is 55.0c
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twolfekc:
I'm pretty confident that the heat is coming from the radio... My phone turns into a hand warmer when I ever need to use data without WiFi but when WiFi is on it never gets hot. Just a little warm
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] logic0verflow:
When I first got my Nexus 4 it was really warm the first 30 minutes or so of just setting it up. Hasn't been that hot since even when playing games. It may have been because I had the brightness at max. Now I keep the brightness at 1/8 or 1/4 to save battery but even when I do set it to max, it doesn't get as warm as day one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Locklear308:
With my trusty Galaxy s2 (i777), regular medium weight actitvty warmed her up to normally about 30C ish. More intese stuff pushed to 35C. Anything past 37C was never normal unless I was charging it.

The N4 got to 37C last night when the battery hit about 15%. Perhaps this is part of the battery conditioning whatnot.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noyade233:
My N4 hits 62-65 C playing Arcane Legends for about 15 minutes over the radio. When playing on wifi for about the same time I think it got up to 56C which is still on the hot side. Never had it shutdown but it does get a little uncomfortable to hold while playing.

Regular use (emails, txt, chrome) on wifi gets it to about 41C but with the radio its about 51c.

I'm still trying to figure out if I should request a RMA and if the phones people are getting back are any better heat wise?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] big samm:
It usually get hot when using it on 3G, besides that it gets warm like any other phones...

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vanhoud:
I noticed mine a little warm on stock but after using Franco's r14 kernel it's cool as a cucumber :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jholt1:
The first 2 days it was hot during normal usage, but now it is fine the majority of the time. There was one weird time when I left the phone for an hour in an area with no signal and it got very hot.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattSkeet:
And tell me whats under the glass? Unicorns ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CiViCKiDD:
My wife has a N4 and was just complaining about this yesterday. I assume it was the Google maps app she had running in the background, though my sgs3 doesn't heat up like that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
gets really hot if you're using the LTE mode, it can burn my ear i think on a long phone call!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuego77:
Mine gets dangerously hot if I browse the web. Idk why. Watching YouTube it gets really warm but web browsing? Hits around 108 degrees
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
My N4 is warm even with UV and underclocking. Sometimes it's warm while sleep.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
Mine was warm during heavy usage for about the first 2 weeks. I got mine on Thanksgiving and just recently about 3 days ago I realized it quit doing it. Its very strange since it used to concern me and now nothing. I mean it gets warm but its glass and its no different than any other smartphone I've had. The only thing I can think off is that about a week ago I switched from all stock to stock with the Matr1x kernel.

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luckylui:
Nope.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [hfm]:
No hotter than any other phone I've used.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akbisw:
Boy do i got a story to tell(!).

Was playing Vice City graphics, resolution everything MAX for about an hour, phone was SUPER HOT. And eventually it shut off. BTW it was charging while I was playing so it got much hotter than usual like 60C cause of the added heat from battery charging. Then I realized it didnt shut off cause of heat, it shut off cause the 1.2A charger could NOT keep up with the power draw of the S4 PRO. I was like holy ****. When I turned the phone back on I had 1% battery. Only happened with this game tho. When I play other games, it only gets warm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stealthj:
mine gets SUPER HOT while sending a bunch of SMSes... in general it gets really hot just when my screen is on... I will most likely RMA it as the back is already hella scratched for no reason :?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [hfm]:
It doesn't scratch for no reason. Period.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bundi22:
Uninstall Facebook app
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sparta507:
mine just get warm at time but never "hot" i mean its a very hot phone but in terms of temp, nah only warm and that sometimes...rarely
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScottyNuttz:
The only time mine gets close to "hot" is when I'm running Ingress while playing music over Bluetooth and charging the phone... Not exactly shocked by this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sungrad:
Pretty ridiculous today: after charging the phone in the car and using Google maps navigation, I picked the phone up and UV was surprised it hadn't started melting!

What app do you lot use to find out the internal temperature?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noyade233:
System Tuner
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] versd:
Every smartphone I've owned got very warm or hot when under max load. These SOC chips mobile devices run only have passive cooling so they rely on transference of heat to the phone body and then rely on thermal radiative heat dissipation for cooling and temp regulation.

If all else fails there is probably a failsafe at a certain temp where the freq of the CPU will be throttled or the phone will shut down to protect the SOC. Since the phone does have a temp sensor this is most likely the case.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ragnarok_:
Yeah mine starts getting hot just from regular browsing. But I'm still trying to figure out how to save on my battery.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] versd:
Try matrix kernel, so far its been excellent
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ky0nkyon:
Not getting hot at all compared to my gs2 but the battery life is abhorrent.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snowmanwithahat:
Mine definitely gets warm, but not hot. I'm not concerned though. Like others have said you'll notice the heat more with a glass back so it's probably just coming down to user perception more than anything.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] versd:
Custom kernels do wonders
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PlanBSTi:
Really?

http://americandreamgeothermal.com/...myths-and-facts-copper-plastic-air-and-water/

Glass is hotter which means it transfered more heat over while plastic doesn't even warm up.

Grab a hair dyer, and put in high and blow against a pillow flip to other side. Is it cold, and warm or hot?

Do the same to glass. Then finally pot or pans. Which feels hotter? Or it is really unicorns that did it? :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shemploo:
I was wondering the same thing, mine gets warm at about the level of volume buttons, but I did consider the thinness of the device, as well as the glass.

It's not very hot, it's more like warm in a certain region, more so then regions, probably why I noticed it.

There's nothing to worry about you think?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] versd:
The glass is a sink to dissipate heat generated by the SOC! Thermal conductivity of glass is about 4x higher than plastic rough numbers (0.2 vs 0.8 W/mK). Which is why a larger area of the back glass will feel hot and therefore more noticeable.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
Yup hot, esp with ltemobile. On

Burns my ears

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] versd:
Probably not many here who can comment on how everything works with LTE enabled
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crular:
30-32C with normal use, running on stock rom with Franco r15.

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pacer265:
Got my first shutdown today, while driving with power hooked up. Was running 1- CarO Recorder, 2 - CarHome Ultra, 3 - Spotify to stream music over bluetooth. It normally gets warm doing this but was surprised when it shutdown on me
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calanizzle:
Sometimes gets hot, while i'm not even using it. Well, it happens when an app like Chrome or camera is open.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] w0dash:
My CPU is ab out 40°C warm in normal use. Would you consider that normal?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vanhoud:
Yeah that is normal
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] styo:
What app did you use to get CPU temp? Mine seems to run really hot. Even rebooted 3 times on me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guest_2011:
I've played Need for Speed for a little bit, watch streaming flash movies, youtube, record long 1080p video. It get warm in the top part. I use s-line tpu case and the back is still covered with the original plastic so never touched the bare glass. Can't tell if it's normal, no reboots or other heat-related issues yet. It's winter now, temps in 30-40's. It's going to be worse in the summer when temp inside the car under the windshield is 80-100+. Used to ice my old Optimus One when i left it inside the hot car for a while and the heat sensor shut it down.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] w0dash:
I use System Tuner. You can find it on the playstore.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Josh98:
Never felt any warmer than room temperature here, not done anything too intensive though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] integramodder:
I've had it get pretty hot several times where I was questioning how bad it was for the phone. Usually, I will remove the case and place it back down on a flat surface that can conduct heat away from the phone such as a glass table. Yesterday after I landed in Europe, it took no time to get a lock on phone signal but data never connected, after going back and fourth into the "available networks" screen, phone was very hot and I ended up turning it off for five minutes. This solved the data connection and heat issues.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devilcup:
My nexus 4 get really hot, not warm, really hot when I trying to get connection where the area the 3g signal is lousy. I highly suspect the way how nexus connect to 3g is bug. I could be wrong.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lokenok:
good to be hot at this time around.. hand warmers
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Overdose1986:
My N4 gets heat when playing games or using the camera
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asphire23:
Just received my N4 few days ago and battery only last for 5hrs idling. Phone gets really warm during normal usage. I was desperate to install a different rom but remembered I bought JuiceDefender a while back on my GN. Installed it, now my phone doesn't get hot and battery last for 12hrs.

Hope it'll help someone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
Nice ill give juice defender ultimate a go

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letom:
A custom rom and under volted kernel is a much better solution than juice defender. My phone runs at around 25-30C normal use, haven't seen it ever go over 40C,and lasts up to a days usage ( 5 hours on screen).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oupavoc:
Yep mine gets pretty warn also
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Venekor:
All these phones get warm surely? My GS2 gets boiling on the top, so I just hold it at the bottom like I normally do :\
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
I think it might be bad they my phone's CPU is at 172 degrees F right now.... Plugged in and browsing the internet.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] w0dash:
Are you sure you are talking about your CPU temperature?

@all who say their phone never goes over 40°C, I think you mean your battery..? Or is it the real CPU temp you are talking about? Because my CPU reaches over 40 degrees easily while I am just using Chrome...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
Agreed, system tuner says my CPU is at 45C on idle... My guess is they're looking at battery temp.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letom:
Yep sorry that was battery temp. My cpu is at about 35-40C with normal use.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Emama:
It gets warm when playing game.

But as a user coming from Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 is much cooler in normal use
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stangy:
So I got an RMA replacement for a bad earpiece but the new one seems to run much hotter then the original.

I ran a quick test by running quadrant on both phones several times.

My old one tops out at about 37c

The new one hits 46c

I'm hoping that there is some kind of break in period?

Also the new one is about 15% slower in the bench so there's definitely some throttling going on.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BadarChaudhry:
I got mine on 20th and on first recharge it gets very hot then and its was hot like going to explode while i played with it for 4-5 hours....installing,checking apps, system etc. But from after 2nd recharge its going good. temps stays around 20-30c. didn't get hot at all.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rec71:
Mine was getting very hot the first time I used it and was setting it up but it's never occurred since even when gaming.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mbucks911:
ya mine does get warm, not even close to where it hurts. it only gets this way when gaming even simple games, but browsing with most browsers and installing apps is fine. only with dolphin jetpack or dolphin beta does it get hot when browsing. usually when it gets warmer i like to power it off so it can cool down, but i dont need to i just feel more comfortable that way
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramkumar2000:
I got it yesterday and charged it and today while surfing web using facebook and camera..i found it very hot..when i checked the temp of cpu it was around 60-62 C..so does that mean anything is wrong with it..? should i ask for replacement or its okie..??

please help guys..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syamilsatanick:
My cpu temp after benchmark is 51-53 celcius. I guess 61 is too hot for me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
With UV it doesn't without it depends on the used Kernel. With faux' I might make me some scrambled eggs.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facetubespam:
Mine definitely gets hot when I'm on the phone longer than 10 minutes. Actually forces me to go to speakerphone or plug in IEMs with mic just so I don't burn the side of my face.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runningreturning:
Mine gets pretty hot while running games, but I will say that after I under volt -100 the difference is substantial
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sspyed:
Anybody having issues with heat: if you just have to play games for hours on end at a time, flash a custom kernel and/or look into undervolting before you do irreparable damage to your device's screen. I've heard a lot of talk about permanent yellow blobs/tints on N4 screens after prolonged heating or repeated rebooting due to the phone overheating/giving out.

When I first unboxed this bad boy it ran a little hot after an hour or so on Chrome which was concerning--after switching to a custom kernel and experimenting with govs (no undervolting even) I can use Chrome & GNow while charging with zero issues. I imagine it should remedy gaming issues as well
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonapunk:
I'm stock everything the phone gets warm after long calls but not hot enough to burn me. Same thing for charging and playing games like osmos hd it gets warm not hot. In Google play there is a nexus 4 manual I'd download that and check what the max cpu temps are. My s3 got hotter

Now this is something I've always assumed so correct me if I am wrong please, is that manufacturers use the body of the phone to dissipate the heat produced from the processor and memory ect. Being our phone is glass and not plastic I assume it would be worse the the s3 but that hasn't been my experience
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheik124:
Unbearably so.

Went away after I flashed faux kernel and set a 62.5 mV undervolt. God damn nominal CPU...

Check what CPU binning you've got. If it's overheating, I can almost guarantee it's nominal (or worse). The frequency tables for the different bins have different voltages.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dinesh690:
Only when i touch it...

All jokes aside, Mine only heats up when using 3G for extended periods of time or playing games. It also heats up unbearably when doing this while charging the phone
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atabey:
Mine even doesnt get hot after a benchmark or stability test, only about 45 °C
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m4r0v3r:
for some weird reason when I put my screen on full brightness and play a game the thing becomes unbearably hot and starts to overheat the battery.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hermmunster:
It gets hot because!!

It gets hot because of the cellular radio. Remove your SIM card. That turns off the radio and your Nexus 4 cools down.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vanhoud:
No... Don't do that lol. Also it doesn't turn of your radio.... :what:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sarkozy:
Nominal here, and no unbearable heat issues with Faux' stock enhanced kernel. Doesn't seem to get any warmer than my old Fascinate.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
Mine gets really hot if i surf on LTE...maturely burns my ears on screen phone call

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