yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
You don't "see the issue that an app has to be used for it"???

Or I'm dumb or the rest is much smarter than me...

How can I do a call to someone who don't have the specific app that I'm using?

How can I do a call to someone who don't even have a smartphone???

That's my issue!!!

:mad:

I was looking around and its true... only with a 3rd party app... stupid android!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.wro:
from skype you're able to call to any mobiles and landlines network... and sometimes it can be even cheaper
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Well it is really then the other people's issue to not having an smartphone or just signing up for Skype tango Google chat and so they are all free to use. So it isn't really android or lg fault. If people don't have it then that is really there issue. I have no issues video call any of my people because pretty much everyone has a laptop or a smart phone that uses a video call app from some sort. Just except it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
Listen people...

I know that I can use a lot of apps to enter in a video chat, I'm talking about VIDEO CALL!!! Or to explain myself better, in a video phone call!!!

Am I talking chinese???

Since a lot of years ago that operators, Wind in Italy, Optimus and all others in Portugal and a lot of others in other countries offer the video call.

Just need a phone with UMTS, don't need to be a "smart" phone, and the soo much advanced android can't provide that???

Is not an issue of who don't have an android, because they have the possibility to do video call. It's mine, cause even having a f*cking expensive phone, in video calls (not video chat!!!) its useless.

I accept because I don't have other choice.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
And it doesn't matter windows phone 7.5 or 8 can't iphone can't of the operating systems just do video calls without dedicated apps period. It has been like that all the time. As long as there has been phones with front camera I can't recall that they were able to just video call if u don't have a camera and dictated app. And u still can do Internet calls. Google voice is a good one.

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And i was asking and wondering what the issue problem is to just install or use something like Skype or other video call Internet call apps? I just don't see the issue. To be honest.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] barny_stumble:
Just to let you know that when I had my Galaxy S , I was able to make a video call . I've had no luck with my Atrix 4G, or my LG 4X. This was not using any web based utils, but just a standard call with video. I'm not sure if it's carrier dependent , but that was on O2 in the UK.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
The only way I know it is that it still uses an app but it is already standard in the phone. I remember that it was called qik and that was pre installed in a few phones that allowed video call. And then tmobile usa allows calling over wifi.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] konio25:
I know what u mean, that is an option in phone dialer, i got this in my old LG optimus 2x, it was there with 2.3 GB and is there also in 4.0.4 ICS leaked v28 i don`t know about official ICS v30A for LG optimus 2x, but unfortunately this option i missing in LG optimus 4x HD, somebody write somewhere here then that option in not there because some drivers are not implemented? i don`t know i don`t use video calls any way but if U really wanna use it try another dialer from market, maybe just stock dialer dont have this option ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
Just wondering how many phones and different OS you tried untill now...

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For what I was able to know, android don't have that option.

Its not a problem cause I have the LG GC900, much better camera and I can do video calls like I do normal phone calls.

The difference is that I need to chose the button from the middle I select the one from the left, in contacts I can choose, voice call, send sms or video call...

Maybe one day android start to use that too.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Well let's start.

Palm Pre

Htc Evo

Samsung Epic

Htc Sensation

LG 2x

Samsung Epic Touch

Samsung Skyrocket

Motorola Atrix 1 and 2

Samsung s2

Samsung s3

Htc one x

HTC Hero

Htc HD2

Htc hd7

Samsung Focus s

Samsung focus flash

Htc Titan 1 and 2

Nokia lumia 900

Padfone

LG 4x

Samsung infuse

Htc thunderbolt

Dell Venue Pro

. I think that's about it and non of them did this without an extra app. Do yeah not sure what u talking about.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] marcelmilea:
Idiots or Ironic?

I'm not sure if the people here are joking or are serious, but video call it's something that was a really big thing when 3G networks arrived.

Video Call is a 3G network feature, any phone that supports 3G can make or receive video calls. The only condition is that the phone must have a video camera, and the feature is implemented on the phone. Search on google for SIP or VOIP for more details.

The Skype, Google Talk, etc are applications that have the feature to make/receive video calls using proprietary protocols, this is not the same as the previous thing. These are program dependent video calls.

LG4x doesn't have the option to do video calls over 3G network. Not sure if LG hidden the feature just to make users buy another/expensive phone, or maybe it's not default in Android ICS, or they don't care.... but it's a missing feature from LG4x phone.

Sad, because even with my old Nokia from year 2005 knows how to do video calls over 3G.

BTW:

IPhone has video calls

Samsung Galaxy S1, S2, S3 + many others have video calls

Nokia : most phone with a camera have video calls

etc...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_VoIP

gsmarena.com/glossary.php3?term=video-call
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mikkis2k:
if u had Samsung galaxy s2... u'd know it had video calls out of the box.. mine did.. all i had to do: Contacts-> The desired person to video call->Video call... Dunno if it had a program that came with it or not. But i did not have sign in to something or atleast of what i know.. i only had my gmail synced,, maybe it used google talk, no clue. But it had it out of the box ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Pretty sure it either was Google Talk or qik as those where pre installed on phones. But i can't remember any phone that was capable of video calls without any app.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] profyler:
Samsung modified andoid OS to support native video call over 3g, because android doesnt have this funciton. a lot of other brands dont have it too, (xperia neo, even nexus as far as i know).
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Good to know. Didn't know but also always used Skype or something or like that.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
Finally someone who understand me...

Two images from my LG GC900 (just as an example...)

The middle button is voice call, the green on on the left is for video call:

The problem is the price of internet specially in roaming, and to use any app I'll need it.

For you guys have an idea, in May I was in Sweden, Stocholm and the internet just disapeared in that day.

I connected my PC to my phone to access to the internet to talk with my wife on Messenger.

I turned OFF all the the programs, updates, everything. Only messenger was using the internet... I use it for 10 minutes in video chat.

The price was 800 PLN, something like 200€!!!

Amazing, more expensive than gold I think.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Well when u have a phone that does video call then use it. I guess at this time there were no Skype or any other phone apps that did video calls at this time phones used that for horrendous prices. Know newer phones just use apps I guess for video calls. Times just changed.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
I don't know if you're trying to mess with me, if you don't know how to read, or what else its wrong...

First, the thread is about video calls, and if you go back and read the 1st post, don't say nothing about apps, skype, or any other.

The OP just asked:

"Hi,

Is there a way to enable video calls on the phone? "

I think that he's smart enough to know about skype and others (everybody knows...)

Second, GC900 is not that old, Android is older than GC900.

Samsung Wave I (among others), with BADA OS is able to do it too...

Third, the issue is the price of internet on roaming for example and, how to do it between different platforms or different programs.

(I know that since google start to monopolize the aplications, no matter if for PC or Android, some of them interact between them, but not all of them, soo... lets not start an other deaf conversation.)

If you want to open a thread about video apps like Skype, Tango, Qik, ooVoo, etc... go ahead, you're free to do it.

Best regard :cool:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] saeeiid:
and result?

hi

i am from Iran. we have 3g system in mobile.

i have a 4x hd but i cant make a video call.

i dont want apps for this action.

how can i do ? please help me

please

(sorry for bad english)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hietsu:
Well without any apps you have to make normal calls i quess.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RuedasLocas:
As far as I know, for what I searched, there is no way to do video calls :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dante501:
Yeah I am messing with u. I was saying since u have a phone that can do it u should used it. And I also was saying before android and the area of real smartphones apps where not really common. So u guess phones before the smartphone area boomed they had video call just already build in. In today's time where u have apps and the freedom to choose what video call service u wanna use, things changed. Now video call is free back at the day is cost a lot of money. So be happy that video call is in many apps free instead build in and have to pay for it. But like I said if u have a phone that still does that then sell the LG 4x and use the phone that still does video call.

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But the only real smartphones os is ios android windows 6 Windows Phone 7 and 8 and the obsolete webos and non of those could do it. BADA OS and all those aren't really smartphone os they are more feature phone os with barely any app store so the only way is using ab dedicated video call instead an app because feature phones don't really have that selection on apps or smartphone features in the first place.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgoby:
I have found a possible bug and hope someone can help me put this on the dev thread since this is my first post ever. Or if it's a setting issue, any insight to fix would be great. While using Fera's v4 ICS the possible bug is while charging. If i use an app, doesn't really matter which, while charging it will start disharging. Any ideas?
[General Questions and Answers] ilovewatermelon:
Hi everyone:o

I've purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 N7105 outright from Vodafone.

I'm using a Telstra sim and have taken the following steps to unlock the phone and to use the Telstra 4g network.

Installed the Singapore firmware available from sammobile with Odin; PDA N7105XXALJ5	CSC N7105OLBALJ1.

I have also entered the following information:

Samsung Galaxy Note II LTE N7105 Telstra settings:

Step #1 - Navigate to Settings > More settings > Mobile networks > Access Point Names

Step #2 - Click the menu button, select 'New APN' and enter the below information:

Name: Telstra Internet

APN: telstra.internet

MCC: 505

MNC: 01

Authentication type: CHAP

APN type: default

Click the menu button and select 'Save' when you are done.

Step #3 - Click the radio button next to 'Telstra Internet' in the menu, so that it is enabled and turns green.

Go to dialpad

*#197328640#

Option [1] UMTS

[1]Debug screen

[8]Phone control

[7]Network control

[2]Band selection

Select [1]Automatic

then

Go to dialpad

*#197328640#

Option [1] UMTS

[1]Debug screen

[8]Phone control

[7]Network control

[2]Band selection

[3]PERSO SHA256 OFF

[4]NW LOCK NV DATA INITIALLIZ

4G still not working, please help:confused:
[General Questions and Answers] NejiXSan:
bump,

Did anyone/OP ever figure this out? I'm having the same problem.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ganesh A:
I just edited the framework-res.apk from my allwinner a10 ics tab. But when i try to recompile, i get a lot if errors.... Also many other apks are like this.

Any fix???
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] 74M3NUMB3RS:
ill try in my gtab 2..

U..Y U NO PRESS THAT THANKS BUTTON IF I HELPED U >.<
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] Unstable Sloth:
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[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ganesh A:
What do you mean
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dstrike74:
I have a Galaxy II that I'm trying to restore to stock operating system. I tried to upgrade to ICI using KEIS but with out luck. Now the phone is telling me that I have to restore firmware using KEIS. When I connect to my PC the program doesn't find the phone. I've uninstall all of the drivers and KEIS program about 3 times and I still don't have any luck. Can you please give me some suggestions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Shawn:
Do you have Odin? If Odin will detect the device, follow the stickies in this forum to help go back to stock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] OneOfMany07:
Specifically I think he meant to follow the directions at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
Hello,

I got the 920 for few weeks, then i have to give it back. So there is no time to waste. Is there anyone working on the phone already ? I mean

rooting, exploiting, etc ?

Few points i already see:

- updated NCS application, v 1.18, seems to support much more info (simlocks status, reading/writing NV items from BB core)

- flash file is basically one file (.ffu), quite large

- phone now supports Test mode(maybe similar to WP7 FTM mode), still not recognized by NCS when in Test mode though

- Nokia bootloader now supports some gui elements (progress bar, colors,etc)

So the OS builder was able to unpack old WP7 esco images, what about this new .ffu format, possible to extract OS files ?

I have also seen level 1/2 service manual posted in another forum, anyone maybe have Level 3 manual with full schematics ?

Also last time i worked on WP7, the last release of the NCS app in the os was 1.9, maybe there is new version for WP7 that

have 1.18 as well, so much easier to get ?

Thanks for reading.

Regards
[Nokia Lumia 920] Carini33:
I keep visiting this site daily to see if anyone it working on anything, so far not much :(

I did get NCS to work with my phone in test mode, but besides running the tests, it didn't seem very useful. While the phone is in this mode, can you get access to anything else? I just had to manually install generic nokia phone drivers in device manager(there are about 7 unknown devices when phone is in test mode). Once they were installed I was able to run all the tests I think, maybe one or two didn't work.

Besides unbricking my phone because of a simple hard reset, I haven't tried much. I did try to flash my phone with all ATT files except I tried to use the one Rogers file that was about sim locking instead of the att file hoping it might unlock my phone(rumor was Rogers was unlocked). It flashed with no problems, but I realized I didn't have a micro sim to test with. I'm assuming it probably just skipped the file because of an invalid signature or something. Plus I'm not sure NCS even uses the other files in the directory besides the ffu file during a flash. Maybe those smaller files are meant to be sent to the phone manually somehow.

Too scared to try anything more seeing how my phone bricked with a hard reset lol(in the About screen). I don't want to try even flashing it too many times. I was going to try communicating with the phone somehow in test mode hoping to use imported NCS dll's, but I just haven't had any free time.
[Nokia Lumia 920] djtonka:
I am able to enter test mode on my Lumia 820 so far

Software Version	RM825 1232.2103.9200.9903 90427 2012/10/04 //alpha_engine/L1_PR1
[Nokia Lumia 920] Reflexdarky:
how do you get into test mode when i hold down vol + and power i get a short vibration i plug the usb in but the phone boots as normal
[Nokia Lumia 920] dgardel:
Dj tonka, tell us How.......
[Nokia Lumia 920] skiddd:
@ Bph&co

- It uses same Certificate Format as BB5 Phones (RPL).. Send your phone's public ID as a BB5 phone,

you will get back RPL from salo. How to write the RPL back? NCS has a WriteFile function as opposed to

WriteFFU used by firmware update. I haven't tested it yet as my 920 is in pieces right now. (BTW, you'll

need a Torx 3).

- It uses PA_SIMLOC30, but so far I haven't found anything similar to PM 120 from my eMMC dump (maybe it's a bad dump).

- FFU is a plain image format, just like boot.img for 7.x... It is very disturbing why Nokia also put the

SEC_BOOT inside the FFU...Guess what happens when flashing fails on the first 1-3 %?

- On a production unit, everything is signature checked once on boot. EFUSES are also burned and had no chance

of resistor "tweezing".

- On JTAG, I only managed to read the IDCODE from the chain... I will continue to work on it next year...

- I have schematics and sm 3/4... Just message me in sonork if you need them ;)

B.R.

X
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
Hi,

Very interesting info. I assumed you already know this as you released support for this generation first.

I also saw two cert like type files i have seen before in BB5 with the flash files, but would not assume they

would mix it up again.

If the bb core sw is anything like 7.xx there would be double layer of encryption on the important values file system, where simlock

is kept. It was too much to re-code all routines, thats why i went for easy temp patch. But seems has to be done now if really have

bb5 simlock v3/4. Have you seen a code from WP8 ? Still 8 digits or changed to 15/20 already ?

Is there parsing/extracting done during flash with NCS or all done by the loader when you send full chunk to the

phone ?

With my phone opening and mess around with the HW is no go, i have to return in pristine condition.

Thanks! I would love also copy of your dump. BTW my Sonork was restored from old dump on latest

install and i don't see you in the list, maybe you see me. Page me or re-authorize me pls.

BR
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
Hi,

Not yet, but will do some scans today and get better clue.

To other guys that asked about test mode - it is just a drop down box in latest NCS.

On lower level is just:

{"jsonrpc":
"2.0","id":
3,"method":
"SetDeviceM
ode","param
s":{"Messag
eVersion":0
,"DeviceMod
e":"Test","
ResetMethod
":"HwReset"
}}

BR
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
Thanks, that was very useful information. Exactly the same here on Win7 64, lots of devices without driver. This is one crazy USB device there:

Device Descriptor:
bcdUSB: 0x0200
bDeviceClass: 0x00
bDeviceSubClass: 0x00
bDeviceProtocol: 0x00
bMaxPacketSize0: 0x40 (64)
idVendor: 0x0421 (Nokia Mobile Phones)
idProduct: 0x0660
bcdDevice: 0x0100
iManufacturer: 0x01
iProduct: 0x02
iSerialNumber: 0x00
bNumConfigurations: 0x01

ConnectionStatus: DeviceConnected
Current Config Value: 0x01
Device Bus Speed: Full
Device Address: 0x05
Open Pipes: 15

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x81
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x02
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x83
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x04
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x85
Transfer Type: Interrupt
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0040 (64)
bInterval: 0x0C

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x86
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x07
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x88
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x09
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x8A
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x0B
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x8C
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x0D
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x8E
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

Endpoint Descriptor:
bEndpointAddress: 0x0F
Transfer Type: Bulk
wMaxPacketSize: 0x0200 (512)
bInterval: 0x00

After installing by hand each device (using Nokia USB device from drivers list), Test mode in NCS works fine.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
So seems Nokia coders had some time and decided to return to old FBUS protocol format for the test mode application:

1B 00 10 35 00 0E 00 00 7F A0 00 01 00 08 01 00 88 00 00 00

1B 10 00 35 00 4E 00 00 7F A1 00 01 00 07
00 48 00 88 00 04 02 00 00 00 08 34 01 2E
4E 54 43 20 72 65 73 69 73 74 6F 72 20 61
6E 64 20 70 75 6C 6C 2D 75 70 20 72 65 73
69 73 74 6F 72 20 74 65 6D 70 65 72 61 74
75 72 65 00 00 00 08 08 03 01 00 00 00 1A

...
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
Ok, the valid WinUsb class to talk to the json handler in the NSC app is:

// WP8 driver class
DEFINE_GUID(GUID_CLASS_NOKIA_WIN_DRIVER_WP8,
0x7EAFF726,0x34CC,0x4204,0xB0, 0x9D, 0xF9, 0x54, 0x71, 0xB8, 0x73, 0xCF);

Pipe 7 seems to be the output, pipe 6 the input, but JSON protocol seems to be 'tweaked' from WP7 version. Oh, web coders

and embedded devices... :(

Edit: Not much change, mainly somebody decided to make his source code look more beatiful, just string changes.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
Another update, after last nights fiasco, it seems the 920 employs the good old BB5 SL3 simlock, probably with 20 digits codes only. The

lame Qcom NV file system with 8 digit codes is just left there unused. So the codes read via simple json call are not working, do not

enter them, it will probably increase the counter, still not sure if NV write allows to reset it. Here the command for completeness:

{"jsonrpc":"2.0",
"method":"ReadEFSData",
"params":{"MessageVersion":0,"FilePath":"/mmgsdi/perso/perso.txt"},"id":0}

credits: x-shadow/dzirt
[Nokia Lumia 920] safarious:
good job so far! keep it up!
[Nokia Lumia 920] Bph&co:
My trial finished, so i had to sent back the phone. Anyway, it more or less clear now. A friend promised to send me full dump, so will do some

IDA work to see if anything is possible.

BR
[Nokia Lumia 920] degsyh:
Hi,

Just been flashing various roms and trying to find out how some of them enable access to 4G and some of them disable it. The files that start customerNvi....nvi within the Navifirm downloads are obviously some kind of config files (the ID can be seen in Settings/Extras+Info under additional info). Looks like some lines write data to the registry / NV ram etc. "WriteEFSData"/ "WriteNVData" Just wondering if anyone has any info about the ID files and/or filepaths that are reference in the file?
[Nokia Lumia 920] Hekser:
I have some idea. If somehow send CHAR_CARRIAGE_RETURN key while booting the device, it will enter mass storage mode.
[Nokia Lumia 920] taiger78:
Regarding 4G

You can to my understanding change this by yourself in any rom by typing at the key pad "##3282#"

In the menu that appears you have the options ...
[Nokia Lumia 920] ap3rus:
Not working with the Portico on Lumia 920.
[Nokia Lumia 920] taiger78:
Ahh, I belong to the part of users that have not received Portico update yet, maybe beginning of Feb if everything goes as planned.

My stock rom also have 4G enabled as default so have not played with this myself ....