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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
I dont know why most people show loyalty to anything when they dont really know the future. People who liked symbian also say the same and that they wont give up symbian. When things gets old they are replaced. But the point here is android is still peaking. What do samsung have to compete it.

If its another mock like failed webos thing then no way. I will sacrifice the TW. But if its really something created by the big profits then i am with u samsung.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Google its ages ahead of any crap developed by samsung... It's like saying (put any crap search engine name here) gonna beat Google in searching the Web.. It's plain dumb.. Crapple its having hard times catching up with android and yeah the apple store its bigger (for now) but android store its growing faster and eventually will be bigger.. How can samsung compete with that? Samsung devices are what they are because Android... Anything else its BS (look at nokia, look at blackberry, heck nokia did a bad bet with windows 8..That's only marketing but will never be bigger than it predecessors)

Google its gonna be always on the cutting edge of technology and they will recode android any amount of times to adapt it to the moment... Or providing new and revolutionary features.. And hey they have infinite numbers and letter combinations to always name the new version of android OS

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
I remember my first Phone... Big Phone like a Note 1 but without this techs it was a Siemens ... I had lots of Nokia phones... When they chose the slide system it was a big mistake.. I changed too samsung.. A symbian... Didnt like it, very noir phone, it was good hardware without a good software... Android to me as everything I need in a phone, and easy to handle and manage. Tizen Will bring phones to the first Step again... I think Android it Will be perfect When it comes out the 5.0 next year... Tizen 2.0 magnolia it sucks....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Reynaldinho111:
It wouldn't surprise me if Google slapped Samsung with a lawsuit for this whole tizen nonsense... I don't think Samsung will release the s4 with tizen, purely for this reason, Apple have sued them for much less and it'd be stupid of them to get into another lawsuit war. Lower end phones might see it but the second tizen based phones start aiming to compete with higher end android based devices Google's gonna put the hammer down.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kortxero:
There is just one thing that boggles my mind. Do people buy a Galaxy phone for the hardware, Android or both at the same time?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LxMxFxD:
Most people buy whats on sale. Life is too short, the list of things to do is too long, etc. Hell, im writing this message while on the cra pper. If were wrong salespeople wouldnt have jobs.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dsmas:
Vinasa Kaala Vibaruthi Puddhi.

Bad time starts when wrong ideas creep into mind.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
Nokia had the Windows Phone dream... now it is a total ****!

Samsung comes with the dream of Tizen... hope they don't go thru Nokia's steps!

If Nokia maintained it's plans for Meego we could see a stable OS by today but like dsmas said:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] wednesday13:
I hope samsung will become the next nokia. Thanks for not releasing the the sources samsung!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rraaka:
Samsung is in a position today to take a few risks so why not ? No risk no gain.

There is no formula for success when it comes to the public.

As long as they don't put all their eggs into one basket.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] BiVs:
Goog news :)

My birthday is in April :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Some of you who are not welcoming to the new OS. If samsung took android to its peak. They definitely have something in the store thats why they opened the news. In simple samsung is bored of furnishing android. Yes its a good OS but now it also has no room left to expand. Same homescreens and putting widets on them and the app drawer. The only unique thing in android is its notifications. Even nokia could have competed android if they would have added multi screens. Widgets they already had in the s60 thing. What made android unique for us were the upcoming services like cloud and other hardware syncing. And android supported them well.

But there is still too much room in mobile computing that we can utilize to make more sophisticted features. So someone has to stand up now to do it. Or it will take another decade with same old stuff like microsoft made us all over the 90s and 00s or like the zymbian era same software so many phone for such a long period of time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Couldn't agree more

Tapatalking on my n7000

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You are in the past.. OSs are now measured by the size of the app store and what useful things are available there.. You will fail for sure releasing an OS with a small app store... Look at blackberry

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
What do I really think about Tizen OS?

I think when it comes out.. And everyone see that its a OS that goes back to a New beguining without many support... You will use and say... What the hell? Android as it all, and this got nothing...

I saw some vídeos of Tizen, looks like a noir Symbian OS... Its a Linux open source with a empty bagage.

You can say whathever you want.. But Google as it all...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] muhamet:
Cm team abond Samsung becose see that Samsung ofers super android software and Samsung dhont need for Cm
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
What does abond mean?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Say what? English please

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Well thats what you think. No developer is fool enough to post its app to just one store. Ita nothing big to compile it on another SDK to make it copatible for other. Windows phone 8 started with 20k apps and in 3 months have poated its 75k app. Most apps in the stores are repititions. Like there are more than 2k apps for the scientific app in the app store. So ita not at all true that app store matters.

Its the way how device responds. How less its bothers u to so a simple job. The easy usability. Apple is still eating the fruit of its simplicity. Android uptil froyo was not considered a standard but GB brought revolutionary change in thinking.

So if samsung can merge its new hardware like flexible screen. Its own cloud services. A decent app store and a fully functional but diff OS. i think they can make a good start beside there are only 2 or 3 million people who go into details. Most buy samsung coz they know samsung phones are good not because samsung has android in it.

Samsung should also be facing a difficulty in incorporating its new hardware feature in the form of apps rather thn part of the OS. A clear example of spen. They had to make the premium suit seperately rather it works better if the whole interface and the drivers are part of the OS. same with flexible screen tech, they dont want to make android supported to this tech clearly.

Google is on competition with its hardware vendor and i think this is a good reply from samsung.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] howard bamber:
Why can't people be happy with the phones we have? Blogs,etc, make you feel you are inferior for having a6 month old phone!

All the hype on future models only does harm . Be happy with what you have. What other part of life do you buy a thing, then want to replace it within weeks?

From box 13......
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Samsung wants to sell 500 millions devices this year.. If they ditch android then I guess they will reduce those 500 millions to practically nothing.. People loves android that's it.. Samsung devices are not even premium, most of uf get samsung and particularly Note because Android/screen size /tw features.. But this year we are getting plenty new options so.. Once again no android, no samsung..

BlackBerry and nokia does have a really decent hardware.. High End devices far away from samsung.. Not to mention iPhone.. But guess what? They don't have android so those are no option for the 70% of the smartphone market share..

You either work for samsung or you are a fanboy.. But you can never say that samsung replacing android with (whatever) will make no difference..

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Ya being into medicine i knoe the type of behavior u have its called "splitting". When someone goes to the market and wants similar things that were used by him in the past. Even though there are more better things available.

U are saying nokia had better hardware. Are u kidding??? Their high end phone of 2009 had a texas instruments 433Mhz processor where as motorola and others were using 600 and 800Mhz in their premature android phones. Thats where nokia got beaten up. No processing power no gpu and no development. Research before making an statement.

Android is not just android by itself. It was kept open source. I think its ur first android device that makes u should and say android +tw. Have u ever tried htc phones. Htc sense is more featured than TW. U like TW just to show off ur spen app.

The need for multiple OS and OS fragmentation (not just android) is very necessary at this point of time. There are 3 reasons.

1. To protect us from the boot loops. I mean no innovation just some silly feature addition with each update.

2. To prevent market monopolization.

3. So that people like u who praised the windows for a decade cause closure of so many other software houses. Linux distros being one of them which were open source at that time. We slowed in computer development because of it.

Plus android is still lacking in providing the real security to the most sensitive data that is definitely in our phones.

I dont want it to happen again with android, ios or any other platform. This is competition.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Dude seriously you live in the past... Talking about 2009 devices? This its 2013 you know? Go watch some videos of Lumia 920 vs S3 lol..

And yes I had an HOX and i prefer touchwiz but if samsung will go tizen on high end devices (most likely not) they are even releasing windows 8 devices.. I'd rather vanilla android and will follow android path.. Waiting for SIV and the new Motorola device..

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Past makes the future. And refeence to the past is to correct ur mis informed facts :)

The sum up of past failures of big giants.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
I was referring to nokia at this very moment, was not talking about past.. Because if you wanted to do so.. You should have mentioned the past 3 generations of iphone Wich were completely crap..

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hhuumm5703:
please let me know when you'll dump your Note coz i'll dump mine as well :)

and may i know what you will replace your Note with?

thanks in advance mr. chasmodo :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dsmas:
Me too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
I'm getting a Sony Yuga/Z/whatever-they're-calling-it-now as soon as I can convince my dad.....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] howard bamber:
"Soon as you can convince your dad"

Those words. What happened to earning your own money?

If I was your father you would get a basic phone, for safety. Anything flash you buy! :eek:

From box 13......

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No mind of your own?

From box 13......
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dsmas:
howard bamber

No mind of your own?

From box 13

Good pulling.

Following pros.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Those concepts are very subjectives... What you find charming and professional could be completely messy and average for me

Source sammobile.com. GALAXY SIV

- Exynos 5450 Quad-Core CPU clocked at 2.0GHz

- Mali-T658 GPU (8 cores)

- 2GB of RAM

- 4.99” SuperAMOLED FULL HD resolution (1080×1920) Display

- 13 Megapixel Rear Facing Camera

- 2 Megapixel Front Facing Camera

- Android 4.2.1 (Out of the box)

Anything else its plain crap... xD.. This its pro... Feel Shame for those with the attitude "oh I will go get what cm team get" Aite go get that low end piece of crap.. Compared to this beast, anything else its BS

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Mate,I'm sixteen.So yes, I'll buy one as soon as I convince my dad.:)

And before you say it, the concept of part time jobs for high schoolers has not yet took off in India :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Exactly :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
So finally everyone agreed here thats samsungs driving android and not the google. :)))))
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hhuumm5703:
i decide to follow a pro rather than a wise ass like you.

i just happen to know that mr chasmodo's choice is a good consideration for me because of his dedication and intensity in the development of his device.

you decide on your own, and my inquiry on mr chasmodo's (which i will consider favorably because i believe he knows what he's talking about) is none of your business.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dsmas:
Dear, cool. (just a suggestion).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Well the fact it's that actually samsung gets more money out of android than Google... Lol

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hotweiss:
Samsung not releasing their source code is also pushing me away from them. Thinking of getting a Nexus phone next...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Catch22-:
This is the exact reason for me to look forward to other brands. Ive always had a weak spot fpr sony and now im really psyched for the xperia z
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
Oh, yeah?

Since this is aimed directly at me, let me tell you about my contributions to n7000 forums:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2051904

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1789397

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1857556

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2018289

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2017248

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2046592

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2074247

What did you contribute to n7000 community? Smartposterior comments on the devices to come? I rest my case.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kortxero:
And of course, I had to reach my 8th daily Thank... :mad:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dsmas:
So early this year the competition could be between S IV and xperia Z. What could be the unbiased comparison?

Edit: any other brands matching these?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Lol I'm don't give a "thing" about your contributions... Never used a single one of them and will never do.. And please, don't think you are important enough (or at least for me) to bother writing something related or aimed to you.. As far as I know you are NOT part of CM team and was clearly talking about them..

And I'm not claiming I did something or contributed with something.. I have my own and personal opinions and will spread them whenever ever I want...

Have a nice life...

Tapatalking on my n7000

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Always go for hardware.. Compare every single piece of hardware inside a device and see the pros and cons of each e.g gpu, cpu, memory slot, camera, ram, BATTERY and so on...

About software.. There's public for everything.. In my personal opinion I find vanilla android too simple and featureless, and you can do with TW roms everything you can do with vanilla and more.. So something extra its always better..

One can always be wrong but hey.. Don't be shy and show me the light.. What can you do with cm10 that you can not do with TW roms.. Then tell me the other way around..

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Okay then let's compare hardware

Processor: Exynos 5450 quad vs Snapdragon S4 Pro quad (No use clock rates as both are rumored)

GPU:Mali T-658 vs Adreno 320

Memory slot: 16/32 Gb w/ microsd vs 16/32 Gb w/ microsd

Camera: 12/13 MP vs 12/13 MP (with Exmor R sensor [rumored])

RAM: 2GB vs 2GB

Battery:Who knows ?

Build quality:Sony wins by default.(Bcoz of IP55 and IP57 certification and bcoz Samsuck makes plastic thingies)

Display:Super AMOLED FHD 4.99" vs 5" LCD FHD w/ sony bravia & [rumored]OptiContrast

Did I miss anything ?

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HTC M7 ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] chasmodo:
That's why I find myself scraping my shoes whenever I visit the general forum.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
I'm adding HTC M7 to the comparison too.

SGS 4 vs Sony Xperia Z vs HTC M7
Processor Exynos 5450 quad Snapdragon S4 Pro Snapdragon S4 Pro
GPU Mali T-658 Adreno 320 Adreno 320
Memory Internal+Microsd Internal+Microsd Internal only
Camera 12/13 MP 12/13 MP(Exmor R[rumored]) 12/13 MP(Cinesensor[rumored])
Resoultion 1080p 1080p 1080p
Screen SAMOLED FHD LCD (OptiContrast [rumored]) LCD(SoLux[rumored])
RAM 2GB 2GB 2GB
Build Quality Plastic thingy IP55&IP57 certified well, solid ?
Battery Removable Non-removable ? Non-removable
Software 4.2 4.1.2 4.1.2
Bloat:silly: Touchwiz UX/? Timescape Sense 5

Anything more ?

Ahh, restored some semblance of formatting.I spent so much time centering everything with spaces, why did it all got wiped out when I posted it ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
You can not do that based on rumors.. Wait until the real specs shows up

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Johny1fin:
This thread us getting a little heated.

May I request a more deferential, respectful and conciliary tone please?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
I'm sorry, I can't wait until May for comparing SGS4 real specs.I'll make do with rumors thank-you.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Google nexus series is still not even close to samsung galaxy line. There is still a long way to go.

Galaxy nexus has aged in front of original note and nexus 4 is already aged in front of s3.

So there still is time for google to make money out of its android. But foul playing like restricting development for other vendors and os is clean cheating.

Google had its browser on all platforms and when it comes to youtube app for windows phone they are not making it. They even restrict the google mapd in the windows 8 browser. Soon they will do same win samsung and sony.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elvinu:
Don't think google will destroy his partners. Not yet at least. As soon as samsung will unveil their own OS then google might get scared.

Till then I hope to get S4/Note 3 (I got the note 1) and in the future maybe get some sort of Note 5 or S 5 or some really good nexus phone.

And also google is afraid of fragmentation. I wish google will enforce(or they are?) some minimal specs for android too. I so some tablets with resistive screens, man i wish i could kill the manufacturer. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
Samsung unveil their on OS?

Samsung Will never have is own OS... Tizen its a open source OS from Linux foundacion..

See for your self

http://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen

Tizen Will not just work on phones... It Will work on computers and laptops also... Just like Windows or IOS... I dont think it Will be just for Samsung guys...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Samsung sucks at the software end (not talking about S-Pen here) so it would be impossible for them to leave Android (for the forseeable future).

Bada is proof of that.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Its the trend of siicon valley , hype hype hype and then down down down. So lets see what the future of these legends will be later.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
Look at the two New huawei

http://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_announces_61inch_ascend_mate_and_5inch_ascend_d2-news-5310.php

Haha looks like a S4 specs haha... They are cute, but no sd slot, no 4G,... Why this culture of big phones?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DPMAce:
samsung is kicking htc's ass. They are giving the consumers what they want. It's good that they are doing so well. My note 1 is everything I ever wanted in a phone and more.

When they announce the note 3, and I get it, I'm sure I'll feel the same way.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Reynaldinho111:
Delete... was half asleep lmfao
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Sony Xperia Z hands-on review......I'm already sold !
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Looks promising but S4 will own..

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Seeing as how it will come out in April/May, obviously.Considering only stock here !

And then fast forward ~3(or 4) months and Tegra 4 will own.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
Tegra devices had never owned Exynos... Compare htc one X (Tegra 3) with Galaxy S III (old Exynos cortex A9 Mali 400 platform)

Tapatalking on my n7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
I am not even thinking about xperia Z even though it seems a great device. But still i will go for either s4 if i get impulsive otherwise i will wait for note 3. by that time my note will be 18-24 months old. In case of note 3 i will get the key lime pie or the samsungs snew tizen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
Oh, come on! Tizen is very new/unknown/in-beta right now. Samsung wouldn't mess up the note 3 by using Tizen.

and there is no guarantee that it will ship with key lime pie
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
As far as i know note is successful because of its TW features and best hardware. Though android has its back but in the near future u will see how google will limit samsung and will keep them deprived of the newer features. Samsung lack software they need to fill this gap. I know if samsung program the OS it will easy for them to update their phones when they want not just pushing it throughout the year. Fragmentation has also cause capable devices deprived of new updates for months.

See the other side. And definitely samsung will only put tizen on note 3 when they know its better than note2 in every way.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
Why do you guys say That Samsung Will have is own OS?

Tizen its a free source os like Android... It Will not be property of Samsung... If you search on Internet you will see That HTC is working on one Tizen device to...

The same problems on Android os will appear on Tizen os to...

Why change? 500 million Android devices against New software? We will see...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SkyKer93:
Yeah its really stupid they should work alot more with Android to make it better and bigger than it is already.

I dont think that any new OS can beat Android its like Windows on Computers lets see.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] warfareonly:
That is what people used to say about iOS.

All of this discussion about Tizen is moot until there are more leaks or official announcement.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] quackoman:
i agree with waiting for every two so i will be waiting for the note 3 to move on from the lovely n7000 and also with tegra 3 i'll wait for tegra 5 lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elhazguy:
Agree entirely.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Open source doesnt mean that people have all the free will. There is always a limit to open source as well. its samsung os because meego dev was cancelled in favour of samsungs tizen. This is all what the news articles and wiki said.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
Read more

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_sell_multiple_tizen_devices_in_2013-news-5281.php

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And more

https://www.tizen.org/about/devices

Tizen its free... Its like Linux...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Nicko80:
Now prepare yourselfs for the new exynos 5... 8cores... Wow... Dual Quadracore..... Uau 70% less energy... Uau...

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/09/samsung-unveiled-exynos-5-octa-processor/

I want a S4 with this...