yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ReapersDeath:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

You guys need to see the movie hot fuzz.. Or a movie with a creepy small town that everyone uses the same quote but does crazy things.. In the movie the town murders children and teenagers and anyone they don't like and they use the quote "for the greater good". I'm not saying anyone's hostile but like hearing the people so often is giving that vibe a little bit =p obviously there's no one secretly being killed
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDriller:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Lmao okay I see now. But I'm pretty sure people are getting secretly killed in my old town of Grand Lake, CO. People say its haunted too. There's even a news article on it

7000 lemons? wtf!?!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JohnnyEpic:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Are these new setups being sebt to Box account here only for the newest kernel?

I had a friend download a setup from tthe Box account here, (pegaseq-zen? is what he labeled it in my email) dated March 15th ,after a newer KT kernel was updated. He complains to me that his phone is super hot whenever he plays a game or uses Chrome. I will see him at work today and try to correct it. He has v. 14 of JBomb on his GS3. I flashed it. He then took it upon himself to try to play w/the setup (which I'm glad) but why he decided to make kernel setup his first task to learn is way beyond me. :) He did make a note that somewhere in the thread here, it said not to install the latest version of the ktkernel. I was just trying to locate the post but was going through three pages of offtopic and gave up. (trying to get to work)

I will reset kttweaker to normal settings, download new kernel reapply his setup. Would the setup file cause overheating or should i just raise his voltage by a click first?

In short.... (little late for that)

How will the ktweaker/ktkernel react with older kernel from version fourteen jbomb and these new seups designed for newer kernel? I'd much rather just lower/raise settings than reflash stuff on the jobsite.

Thanks in advanced.

Please excuse typos. Some of this was done voice to text and while at stopights.

Sent from the Mars Rover.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ragnar:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Lmao... This from a guy who's profile name is ReapersDeath.... :D

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] pberge:
Thanks for the update on ktoonsez latest development. I asked him if it would be possible to add a hotplug driver to his kernel a few weeks ago and he said he couldn't because it would interfere with ktoonservative. I'm glad to see that he has reconsidered.

This is what pushed me to try other kernels that already include an alternative hotplug driver. You guys are going to have a blast tuning all of the other governors once hotplugging is enabled globally. I'm really looking forward to a lot of new tuning setups from this team. :good:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ramondel:
ReRick, What is app are you using for the CPU Tool?

Ramon
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Dalek_Caan:
Loaded this setup onto clean install of newest TPR ... have not touched it while i paint my living room and either my battery gauge is stuck :silly: or it is sleeping like a baby .. will see how it goes rest of the day ( or more at this rate) .. either way device is running great Thanks Rerick
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

If your friend tried to apply the wrong ktoonservative setup then yes this could screw with the phone (ktoonservative setup for one kernel version doesn't seem to work with other versions due to certain parameters being present or not present) Likely the phone is overheating because it is stuck at max mhz.

I'm my box folder I have the kernel folders separate and in those folders I have distinguished between aosp and tw, which your friend also could've mixed up.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] GTOJim:
In addition to what castle_bravo suggested, please read the first two posts of this thread, they contain a lot of good information. Media scanner might be going crazy
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDriller:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

No, your battery charge is stuck lol

7000 lemons? wtf!?!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Dalek_Caan:
LOL could be :p either way now at 6 hr 53 min and still 97% so I am still happy
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MorphiousGX:
Yup, that's what I mean by "technology implementation" LOL.

---------- Post added at 03:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:22 PM ----------

It looks like he is using CPU Stats which what I am using, but I could be wrong

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImpwLnRha2tlLmNwdXN0YXRzIl0.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDriller:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Yes that's the one. Sorry bout that I must have missed that post. But yes that's what I use

7000 lemons? wtf!?!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
My battery life hasnt been so good over the last two days. one run lasted 8 hours with hours screen time and the other lasted 15 with 3 hours. My average has gone down. seems to be taking place after i updated to the newest kernel 3-15 TW 4.1.2.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

OK guys,

Contest Splash Screens implemented in Aroma Installer along with Stock Splash.

AOSP and TW build props implemented. Removed previous build prop install.

Still having issues with the tweaks not being copied over correctly. So my question to you all is should I remove the tweaks and work on them after release or work on it then release ? :)

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MorphiousGX:
Since the "tweaks" is a "addition" then yes. It can easily be downloaded. Plus with the new kernel around the corner, I am sure the tweaks will be more "tweaked".

Another thing I suggest...LOL I love Rericks' sense of humor in the script, but can we remove the jokes from it with the Installer?? :laugh: It just takes a bit too long with the installer

---------- Post added at 06:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:01 PM ----------

How many hours of screen time?:confused:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Lol. I kept the joke, but cut the time of both build prop installs more then half.

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Oh first one was 3.5 hours

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] blunij:
The box.com link does not seem to be working for the KTweaker files. Any mirrors?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work. It's much appreciated :)

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Anyone on AOSP? Need a tester with some time. If all goes good release will be tonight.

Edit: prboy PM :)

You too castle lol.

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Pm checked im on aosp 4.2.2
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I felt left out lol :(
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I sent you a PM already. Check your inbox bro lol

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Luis pmd you buddy ;) just havent got the bootanimation loaded...? Build prop and the installer looking great.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Yeah that option is just for when flashing kt747 and bootanimation stops working. Its not a custom one (nice idea tho!) Usually it happens with Touchwiz ROMs, never happened when I ran AOSP. But if that is the case. It renames the proper files to get bootanimation working again.

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Sleepy-sio test up in my folder, read the comment. Mpdecision needs to be active for this. (Until that new tw kernel release possibly...)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MorphiousGX:
LOL OK!!! I don't mind the joke, but it was taking long to install....call me impatient :p
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I'll definitely give that a test run, see how you handled sleepy. Hopefully it'll give me some insight.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Less time then manually doing it all :) :p

Luis I pmd you :) you misunderstood or I did :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

You hp read quantum has a lower value than your rp read quantum, I would switch those numbers (although to be honest it doesn't really matter that much since they are so close) I chose a long sampling rate to keep from fast scaling, also love the ignore nice load setting bein enabled, going to look up suspend freq because I forget what that does. My 2¢
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I feel left out too Lol. My reason is that I have finals this week. I'll be done on Friday.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mbc663:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Anyone in this thread out of high school?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] thegame2388:
I have the Box app, I have the link, and yet I can't download it directly to my Ktweaker folder. How do I do this?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

What's ur point

But on a side been out of ITT for a year now

President of {Team Kernelizers}

Im Gman and I approve this message
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] flastnoles11:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Been out of college for 4 years now... :rolleyes:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ragnar:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Been out of high school for 30 years now... Wishing I could go back all the time.. Tired of jumping into different Hot Tubs but none get me back. :D

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] RoscoePC3PO:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Why do you ask?

I graduated college in 2000 and it feels like I've lived 2 whole lifetimes since... :)

-------------

Btw, I love this thread! (and the other TK thread) You guys rock! I learn so much. I'll get back to lurking and studying for my CCNA, but once I'm done with that I'd love to help test for you guys, if you could use the help. I think diving into exactly how kernel tweaks work will help me learn more linux based stuff on my way to learning perl scripting. I'm no coder, but I'm at the point where I have to learn it or stay stagnant in my IT career.

Anyhoo, stay classy TK. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDriller:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Yep... I am a driller on an oil rig in Colorado. Work for Precision Drilling

7000 lemons? wtf!?!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I'm in college not highschool Lol!

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Hm, when you select a file, it shows four or five options on the bottom

Select the down arrow

It will now prompt you to select which folder you want

Press the left/up arrow in the top left corner once till you get to sdcard0

Now you should be able to scroll to your ktweaker folder, select it and win
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

It's not about age, gender, or ability. It's about what you contribute to the others on the thread, the forum, and the Android Community :cool:

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ryandubbz:
How do u reenable mpdecision if you flashed the kill mpdeciscion zip ? Taking .bak off does not reenable it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bso44:
There's also a re-enable mpdecision zip somewhere in this thread.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JHumBL3:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

The Box.com link still says the file is no longer there. What folder in the link am I downloading from? Can someone provide a link that is not Box.com?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MorphiousGX:
Tasker

How many of you out there use Tasker?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Of which I haven't done much. I'm losing my mind. I've been at the library from 11 am and now its 11:22 pm! 8am final Haha. Oh you have to love college

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bso44:
Not yet but I'm thinking of taking the plunge soon. Heard nothing but great things about it. I've tried both Juice Defender and DS Battery Saver and found both to have some shortcomings.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MorphiousGX:
You are correct. I've been using it for some small automation. For example, I have a profile that turns on GPS once it detects I'm back in town (using cell tower location), then checks every 3 minutes to find out if I am near home. If I am, it turns off GPS, and tries to connect to my Router. If successful, it turns off Data. I am sure I can expand more on it.

But I do have something in mind that will take KT Kernel, Team Kernelizers and and the tweaks to a whole new level :) It will take me time to implement if I find the right response to it, considering TASKER is a paid app.

---------- Post added at 02:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:46 AM ----------

Luis, that's another idea to add :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bso44:
That would be awesome. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] MorphiousGX:
Here you go

Zips for mpdecision enable and disable:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38044151&highlight=disable+zip#post38044151
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

remove the .bak and hot reboot. There is also a terminal command or script that you can enter in rom toolbox but I'm sorry, I can't remember it. I know it is buried somewhere in here though.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] sevenpioverthree:
I can't find ktweaker files in the galaxys3man30 folder. Is there anywhere else I can get the files?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

su

mount -o rw,remount /system

mv /system/bin/mpdecision.bak /system/bin/mpdecision

sync

reboot

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Damn troll

President of {Team Kernelizers}

Im Gman and I approve this message
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ReapersDeath:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Hey question guys, what does deespsleep battery saver pro do besides manage wifi and gps and what not?

Also, anyone else having this issue going to the box account on mobile? I get re routed to this page
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Phung:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

This was answered a few times a couple pages back but it's a weird issue on some phones. Use the link below and thank whoever it was that shared it first.

https://m.box.com/s/5hazifi3odci94uyykws/1/698338185
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Slomodrop:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I've wished for a way to trigger some kernel tweaks based on situations in Tasker or Locale for a while.

Bump up CPU for watching videos or playing certain games, etc. "Turbo Mode" so to speak.

Sprint GS3 LTE - The People's ROM 3.14 - KT747 - sent from xda premium
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Need a favor from you sprint guys.

I need to verify if sprints system partition is the same as verizons..(mmcblk0p14)

Open terminal emulator and do the following:

su

fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0

Take screen shot and post here.

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Oh and if you take away the .bak from Mpdecision all that is needed is to go in to terminal, enter su then start Mpdecision and it will be enabled
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

As requested
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Thanks bro.

Check your pm Castle.

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

It closes open apps on screen off and has exceptions list. It helps put those apps and phone itself into deep sleep mode on screen off. I find DS plus Greenify the best combo.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bso44:
Do you guys use a custom profile on DS Battery Saver or one of the presets? If one of the presets, which one?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] trvbone:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Lurker here trying to decipher all that is being discussed on this particular set of tweaks. With a thread in the 300+pages it's hard to jump in on page 320 something and be well versed enough to just start asking questions if I haven't done my two hundred and something pages of research ahead of time. But I've been wanting to flash kt747 kernel but I'm afraid it might cooperate with my CPU because mine has been deemed a slow version from terminal pull I learned from imoysen lean kernel thread. But the things you guys are talking about and the skills are amazing really taking android to a new level. Can anyone point me to the best starting place for learning all of these terms and tweaks you're all using?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Not to be mean buddy but idk if you even read the OP at all. There are links there to learn more about what the governers and I/O schedulers are plus plenty more.

here is a link to get some more info on basic knowledge on some of the governers and i/o schedulers and how you can tweak some of them

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=19846276
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Pm bro. :)

Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Im on slumber as it was recommended in the thread :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Got it :)

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] luis86dr:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

On that note....

Team Kernelizers proudly presents.........

TK MOD 1.0!

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Features:

Bin File Rename

*Individual renaming of the following bin Files for battery savings:

gsiff_daemon

mpdecision

qosmgr

smd

smdexe

Renames bin files with .bak

Bin File Restore

*Individual restoring of the following bin files:

gsiff_daemon

mpdecision

qosmgr

smd

smdexe

Restores bin files to their original state.

Mods

*KT747 Bootanimation Fix

Use only if bootanimation is broken. Usually occurs on TW Roms.

*Team Kernelizers TouchWiz Build Prop Tweaks

*Team Kernelizers AOSP Build Prop Tweaks

*Restore of Original TouchWiz Build Prop

*Restore of Original AOSP Build Prop

Contest Splash Screens

You now have access to all Team Kernelizers Contest Splash Screens in one zip! :good:

*1st Place Splash Screen:

*2nd Place Splash Screen:

*3rd Place Splash Screen:

*4th Place Splash Screen:

*5th Place Splash Screen:

*6th Place Splash Screen:

*7th Place Splash Screen:

*8th Place Splash Screen:

*9th Place Splash Screen:

*10th Place Splash Screen:

*11th Place Splash Screen:

*Stock Splash Screen:

Reverts to Original Splash Screen.

Thanks:

Edgehood for answering all my questions about Aroma! Thanks buddy!

steelers_exe for his awesome splash screen for Aroma Installer.

RErick for his build prop updater script & for providing Splash Screen zips.

mw86 for his build prop tweaks.

GMan for testing and helping me. Also for providing mirrors!

decimalman for making the build prop script work!

Ktoonsez for such a awesome Kernel and inspiring us to do what we do.

Everyone who helped with testing!

Team Kernelizers for being so damn awesome!

Known Bugs:

*Splash Screens will only work on TouchWiz

*When going back from Build Prop screen in Aroma to Optional screen, causes Aroma to freeze.

Working on finding out the cause of these issues. Please report bugs in either of the Team Kernelizers threads.

This is still in Beta, more is yet to come!!!!!! :highfive:
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DOWNLOAD

Sprint: http://db.tt/KeH3R8Vv

Verizon: http://db.tt/UzmpaWGg

Mirrors

Sprint: Coming Soon

Verizon: Coming Soon
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Team Kernelizers; Kernel tweaking at its finest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

Yeah buddy!!!! Great work to everyone who contributed! :)

Oh and if you need mirrors let me know. I have developer status on android file host.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
I know luis just dropped our tk mod but I felt compelled to just say this. Contrary to it's name sleepy act's like ondemand in the way it scales up and from what I read it was developed to be a balanced governor. Although I'm aiming to make it in to a conservative setup (like most of my tweaks) I think it would serve better as a performance governor. I'm actually putting the update out tonight, changing scheduler to zen.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
yea, i found that with my first test running sleepy. phone would sleep like a rock, but as soon as any significant load was reached, it would ramp straight up to max freq, and stay there. i tried keeping freq down by using touch boosters and raising the up threshold and sampling rate, but it would still ramp up too quickly for my taste.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} Ktoonsnative governor and I/O tweaks

I'm starting to notice the same thing, what I did notice though was screen on drain with my setup seemed reasonable, but only for surfing the web on a strong signal or texting, once in a bad signal area or a heavy demand on the cpu hit the battery just tanked :/ we'll see I guess