yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Keep us updated I do care about all users here. Gtojim had issues applying build prop to Freegs3. I am very dedicated though i am new to android like a lot here I still changed my rom to his rom and proceeded to apply every build prop one at a time reboot in between till i determined what caused his messages and adblocking to force close and not work. If necessary I will offer you the same help. It takes a lot of time though and i have to go to the same rom as you. All the build prop i applied actually especially in AOSP remove flicker. Make sure you use Hwoverlay and force gpu rendering in developer options fixes flicker on 4.1.2/4.2.1. Let us know i am watching thread closely for you. Goodluck. The voltages definitely could of caused all that trouble. I personally recommend not one voltage at 850mv or less.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] pberge:
Thank you. I really appreciate the offer and I will definitely keep everyone updated on my progress. I am already using Hwoverlay and force gpu rendering. Without gpu rendering enabled, maps would become very sluggish with the ktoonservative governor.

For my drive home test, I reverted to default voltages and re-applied all of the build.prop tweaks. I want to completely rule out voltage before going any further. I'll update as soon as I get home tonight, which will be in about 2 1/2 hours.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Jpr0930:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Would any of these cause ktweaker settings to not stick? I actually think hey are sticking but keep getting message every time I go into app, despite turning off toast messages. On fre3.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ramondel:
init.d script and seeder APP question

MW86,

If I have added your init.d scripts do I still need seeder app? Will it hurt to run both of them?

Ramon :confused:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Not sure exactly on the cause of your messages but i can say clearly those initd should not be the cause of that issue atleast the ones in that pic...

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 03:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

Good question my friend. I am using seeder latest and the initd right now to see how it handles. So far doesn't seem to use more battery and I have not seen and adverse effects using both performance wise. So if you do see added drain not from something else stop using seeder and just use the initd. So far seems fine together. If you would prefer a one or the other answer then I would recommend the initd only over seeder. I hope that helps answer your question.

Latest seeder has light, moderate and aggressive for how often entropy is checked and maintained. You could try sticking to light. Light is equivalent to stock settings of the previous versions of seeder.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 03:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:25 PM ----------

Great, good luck, i hooe it is the simpler fix and was just the voltages.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
I see. thanks for the help, it went a long way.

On another note, im getting some lag on the keyboard after waking the phone and going into my messages. it takes a couple of seconds to bring the keyboard up, then about 10-15 seconds to actually register any touches. no haptic feedback or anything until after the 10-15 seconds. Im fairly certain its JD, i turned it off and tested 5 times and each time keyboard lag was gone. so i turned it back on and tried raising the freq step and up thresh hotplug, and dropping down thresh hotplug, to no avail. It seems to coincide with JD connecting to wifi, as soon as that toast message shows up, thats when the lag does. any advice or can anybody recreate this? im on the safe uv from OP, and ill post my governor settings in a bit.

Edit: governor settings attached, and another wrinkle to the problem, lag goes away after reboot, at least for a couple hours. clearing recent apps does not help, nor does clearing cache and dalvik. and appears lag is not confined to keyboard, but entire system. any action is delayed while JD connects to wifi it seems.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
you'll actually want to try lowering your up thresh and up hotplug, id leave the down alone. weird that you would get lag on a keyboard because of jd but then again i dont use it so i wouldn't know
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] pberge:
Drive home map update: I left work and had a few errands to run, so I had the chance to drive a little, make some changes and drive a little more. All of my build.prop tweaks and the 68tweaks init.d script were being used the entire time. I started out using ktoonservative with Daniel4653's 60 35 90 70 settings, and the zen scheduler. Min: 96 MHz Max: 1512 MHz. Stock voltages were used.

For a few miles, everything seemed fine, then navigation started to become very slow to update. It would lag and then eventually jump to my current location. After a little more time it appeared to completely lock up and my whole phone became very slow and unresponsive. It took 15-20 seconds just to return to my home screen. Returning to maps just gave me a black screen and I had to force it to exit and restart.

Enabling yoyo cpu mode and it seemed to help, but would eventually start to lag again.

I then tried what I think are the default ktoonservative settings. I don't remember all of the numbers, but I know the sampling rate is 45000. The results seemed the same to me. Things start out fine and then eventually lag.

Next experiment was to try using the interactive governor. The results were smooth and stable. No lag at all, so I'm pretty sure it is directly related to the governor. I need to try raising my minimum frequency and see if that helps at all.

I'm also going to flash back to lean kernel and give interactivex a try.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Im gonna go back to my original governor setup, see how that does. Weird thing is its not just the keyboard, seems like the whole phone gets bogged down by something, but I can't tell what it is. Watchdog isn't alerting me to any rogue apps, so I don't know what it could be.

Sent from my TPR GS3 backed by Team Kernelizers
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ragnar:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Ram leak will cause that. If it goes away with a reboot then starts slowly slowing down then it most likely is a ram leak.

Transmitted with a portable device using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bso44:
By JD, you're referring to Juice Defender right? I'm using Juice Defender Ultimate and haven't experienced any lag on the keyboard or anything else. I am using Swiftkey instead of the stock keyboard but that shouldn't make any difference either.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Castle_bravo these are using your last posted I/O and Governor tweaks :) . Thanks :)

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

What's your screen time?

Goin nuts on this gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Any advice on how to remedy that?

Sent from my TPR GS3 backed by Team Kernelizers
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Opps forgot :p

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Is that good?? Zee gats! Why is your os so high?

Goin nuts on this gs3

---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

Click on the os and post that pic please, that just seems unreasonable

Goin nuts on this gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

I don't think that is very good. That would mean he would get 2 hrs of screen time
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Well I meant is that good for him and the way he uses his phone, the way I use mine that would be unacceptable.

Goin nuts on this gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Here you go.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Yeah it would be unacceptable to my standards too. I need to get at least 3 hrs
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

TSAR, we gotta work on that, i pm'ed you.

Goin nuts on this gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Its related to 4.2.1 cpu load calculation so best bet is until it is updated more use either kerne with intellidemand.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 PM ----------

4.2.1 Issue i think

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 09:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ----------

I am on touchwiz for now myself because cpu load calculation works correctly. Yoyo cpu load option does help it did for me but the issue is from work still needed for 4.2.1.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Small update, while oc'ed to 2106 my phone was very unstable at -30mv. Now that I dropped the oc to 1700 it's running smooth as silk at these voltages, so much so that I might try pushing it lower in the morning.

Goin nuts on this gs3

---------- Post added at 10:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

It seems we were right about frequency stepping and voltages.

Goin nuts on this gs3

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

I am helping out prboy1969 and as I was checking my settings I noticed that cpu spy was saying I was spending an awful lot of time at max mhz, I had just plugged my phone in at the time and had an issue like that issue before. Then I remembered that if you hold down the home button it gives you 4 options, recent programs Google search, clear ram, and on the left is ongoing active processes. Pandora was red and using 99% cpu even though I hadn't used it in 2 hours! I ended it right there and voila, end of problem. Strange, but if you guys are having weird issues like that it's worth to check that little task manager as it shows you what programs are active and how much cpu they are using

Goin nuts on this gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] fluk321:
My Opinion based of extensive testing

Ive been following these Ktoon Kernel, Battery, and Benchmark threads for the past few months, and there's a few things that Ive noticed. When it came to which ROM to start off with, I learned more towards ASOP CM10 based because of how fast and light they were. Then went back n forth with TW JB ROM's because O noticed they were a lot smoother in some cases. Ive used all the tweaks in this and similar post and have came to a conclusion..... Basically there are two ways to tweak the GS3 by manual editing build prop, kernel,systl etc. Or by using preset-ed programs such as Pimp My Rom. I noticed when trying both methods together i experienced lag and low Antutu scores especially on Android 4.2.1 ROM's. At this point I clean wiped formatted my internal and external memory and started fresh with Jelly Bomb v13. I haven't used and modding apps, just manually editing the build props and castle_bravo latest kernel and I/O tweaks

. Im running 96-1809 Mhz DS Batterry saver , seeder, and auto 3g.Things have been smooth and decent Antutu scores around 8500-9600.

Most problems I faced mostly from using a combination of too many tweaks that seemed to butt heads, restoring bad apps and or app data from Titanium backup, or flashing too many zip mods right after flashing a new ROM. Simple is most times the best policy, find a light combo of tweaks , keeps backups, keep mental notes , and stay engaged in these forums to find new methods. Any questions on what ROMs or n how I tested them out, just ask, im a notification away.

Sprint GS3 JellyBomb V13 Kt747 96-1728Mhz ROW/Ktoonservative
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

I'm on TPR 3.09 though.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] docnas:
Can you clarify what you mean by being right about frequency stepping and voltages?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Well, a bit back in the forum we talked as little about this and this is what we came up with. If you oc your cpu you can't under volt to much. As the cpu scales up it looks to get a certain voltage, example being at 2106 my phone was WAY unstable at -30mv. When I reduced the clock speed to 1700 the phone rubs great at that same under volt value. Now if I were to try and use the low rider settings my phone would just lock up. But if I reduced my clock speed to under 1500 those voltage settings would be fine. It seems the higher you set clock speed, the more sensitive it is to under volt.

Goin nuts on this gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Jpr0930:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Do you guys kill recent apps often or is that a placebo relic from the days of task killers aplenty?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Theres link in the second post for fast reboot it kills apps automatically for you its a neat to tool to have
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Jpr0930:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Yeah snagged it a few days back. Do I kill media server and scanner after? How often do u run the app personally?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

I use that app after every reboot and after I play a game or music
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Yes i posted fast reboot use it anytime you feel ram is used up and not returned even after wioing them away from recent tasks ir in a task manager. Usually helps recover ram and extra apps uneeded close.

GS3 Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 02:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:13 PM ----------

I see your on touchwiz by your post. What tweaks are you using?

-seeder?

-initd?

-build prop?

-governor + tunables

-undeclock/undervolt/overclock

-kt747 kernel release date?

The ui feels laggy?

Does using temporary intellidemand alleviate the issue? If it does then id suggest we try adjusting you governor together maybe hotplug down or the up thresholds are too high.

If governor doesnt fix it seems UI gpu related. Perhaps build prop. Give some more details and we will look for the lag source.

Guyzs btw will take me a little but ill make a separate list of UI related build prop only if some of you just want to apply only tweaks for lag reduction.

GS3 Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] chrischoi:
I just went through it. I think it was taken down.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
Im using ktoonsernative with the attached tunables. Using the safe UV chart from the OP with a min max of 144/1512. I believe its the november version of kt747, the latest one in the aroma installer for TPR. No seeder, initd, or build prop tweaks.

switching to intellidemand does not fix the lag, only thing ive found to work is disabling juice defender ultimate, or a reboot. disabling JD gets rid of lag for good it seems, while the reboot gets rid of it for maybe 3-4 hours, then it creeps back. Lag seems to coincide with the connected to wifi network toast message i get from JD, maybe 10-15 seconds after that lag kinda goes away, but comes back every time i wake the phone. Its not a huge problem, more like an annoyance, but i figure id learn something by being able to fix it.

Edit: seems to happen whether wifi is enabled or not. Checked ram usage and it hasn't gone past 3/4 full.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] adamdelozier:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Yeah, link not in OP...but a quick search in the Play Store brings u right to it.

Sent from my cracked out SGS3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Over in post teo on bittom of list it is listed as resources. I had link with it. The link is now gone. The link likely was removed recently by a moderator. I am happy it was removed as if it was removed it was required that it was. I comply with any developer requests as such and we will not replace link. The name fast reboot is still in the list so feel free to glance at the list but search for and install fast reboot yourself. Its in play store give a search. Sorry guys and thanks for understanding.

To any moderator who may have adjusted either Original post, thank you for helping maintain and feel free to contact me if there is or was a complaint please let me know, i would like to do thungs correctly here. If it ever is a matter feel free to remove the content and please inform me of how to prevent further need if our posts to be moderated. Thanks again and I am glad nothing else has been an issue.

GS3 Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 06:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:07 PM ----------

Not a fix but please try this to see what differences are. Backup and uninstall JD and try the Deep Sleep app. If it doesn't happen lets see if we can contact the developer of JD about the issue. I thought it was related to 4.2.1 load calculation but now it seems by this info that you are onto something with the lag not happening with JD not running. Perhaps in JD tell it to not notify you at all?

GS3 Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 06:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:11 PM ----------

Lag Fix

Use at your own risk and read thread first. It trims blocks that are erased essentially on your storage but the data still exists. When every block thats labeled free on storage is actually free, system storage performance should be a bit better. Good after installing and changing massive amounts of data. User responsible for any damages to ones device.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37029420&postcount=122

After reading the thread the easy way to see if the app is safe on your phone is then to attempt to install app via play store as if install is blocked its know that the app is incompatible and will cause probs with that device. It worked on my Sprint GS3 but it is noted if it is not compatible it could brick your phone. So don't try to install it if it was blocked.

Thanks AuxLV

GS3 Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bso44:
Pretty strange that a moderator would remove that Fast Reboot link. I wonder what their reasoning is.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Not to bad for today n im talking to kenny about the link just give me a bit n ill update yall
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] daniel4653:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

The play store link?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] KennyG123:
Can find no reports on this and unfortunately MW edited the post a couple of hours ago so he shows as the last person to edit it. There are other Play store links in there that were left untouched...I wouldn't look too much into it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

The link is back in the second now for fast boot
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Thanks for looking into it Kennyglass123 and fixing the link. Perhaps it got deleted by me by mistake, unbeknownst to me. If this was the case I am sorry for any inconvenience this may have been. Truly Kennyglass123 I and we appreciate your help as always. Thank you once again and feel free to stop in with the occasional post or joke on occasion :)

Galaxys3man30 and Team ive found that if you are on a really battery oriented governor tuning that may cause a perceived lag could be very beneficial still if used and to alleviate the lag use touch boost set to 384 and second touch to 486. Ive found Tapatalk, xda, scrolling launcher and much more always require above 486mhz during the movement action. So it may make a governor that seemed sluggish more suitable if using touch boost on a low setting even more so if using 96mhz - 200mhz as a minimum speed. I will add a note by the governors for battery in post two.

This was asked earlier in thread and answer was touch boost adds too much mhz when uneeded. This is true on governors that are not tuned to use low mhz as much as possible and on those governors the touch boost will allow a smoother UI feel while having benefit of the governor then as soon as not touching screen for an action the minimum is normal again and cpu load is the deciding factor once again. Obviously the touch booster just raises min at the time as when touching screen the cpu is still allowed to ramp up by cpu load as normal.

GS3 Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Lol right he is going to test intellidemand n row for us buddy I sent you a pm buddy to gtalk me real quick
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Awesomeness.

If he has suggestions we can add them to the OP about intellidemand too as its a good alternative to Ktoonservative as they both have battery in mind.

Edit: added this as the note on touchboost and its with the battery oriented tunings.

"-#*note#* (you can get away with one of these high threshold tunings and not feel laggy by using touch booster set to 384mhz on booster one and for touch two 486mhz which should help response time on any interactive action where in you touch the screen and immediately resume the normal minimum mhz as during touch boost the cpu still ramps based on load over the touch boost values if and as needed. It provides less frequency steps to target frequency during interactive use) "

GS3 Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Ok guys he is my final screenies for today this is with DS off all day I could have went longer but I was to kenny n back n front on here n playing a game too
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steelers_exe:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

MW86, I'm using DS battery saver, and so far I'm not getting any lag at all. I'll drain battery tonight and go with a full run tomorrow to know for sure. Also I just saw your post about the touch booster, I'll test that out with JD after this run and let yall know how it turned out. Thanks a bunch bro.

Sent from my TPR GS3 backed by Team Kernelizers
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Re: [Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms

Nice looks good!

GS3 Tapatalk