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[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Just got this from Moon this morning.

So it's probably best that we don't try to mix and match power cables to go with the CarPad, as they've engineered it to work best with the provided charger.

(updated the main post with this info as well)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ack154:
If you're still taking names for the list, I'm interested.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Has anyone tried the owlpad itself (not the carpad)?

Interested in knowing:

1. How hard it is to line up the Nexus on the pad (is it very finicky about position)?

2. Does the phone continue to do a trickle charge and maintain battery above 95% if left on indefinitely (ie doesn't have to be taken off and replaced to keep charging)?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Psyclism:
You should suggest to Moon that he have the charging plug changed to a 90 degree type. That straight plug sticking out of the bottom could cause a lot a clearance issues for people with cramped dashboards.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ViViDboarder:
So has the charging rate improved when screen on and using GPS nav?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
I've got an email in to Moon about this.

I'll bring it up with him and see what may be possible. You could always get an elbow adapter if needed, I'm sure.

Well, it has improved, but in the balance of heat vs. charging speed. The charging rate on my second test unit was much higher, but at the cost of too much heat, causing the CarPad and the phone to get a lot hotter than they should and sometimes causing the charging to stop.

With the latest model that is the /G the charging with GPS and screen on is still positive, but I wouldn't expect it to raise the percentage more than 1-2% over the course of an hour or so. Although this seems bad, the point is to keep the phone and charger lower in temperature and also not have the battery drain while using these features, so in that case, it has definitely improved.

Here's the info from my tests.

GPS on and navigation app running, streaming music via Spotify, using BlueTooth to my car head unit, screen ON at lowest brightness.

The test was from 8:26am to 8:34am

http://i.imgur.com/kydLRAU.png

Honestly, I'm happy with the amount that it charges currently. I rarely use GPS, but I know that if I do, I won't drain my battery. That's all I really care for in the long run. I'm going on a long car trip this summer, and it'll keep my battery level, if not charge over a few hours by a few percent, but I'm not looking to take the phone from 20% to 100 over 3-4 hours while using GPS and music and stuff.. that just seems a bit too greedy from this sort of heat-sensitive technology
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
I don't think anyone got an owlpad for testing yet. You can ask moon about the owlpad if you are interested. The carpad had been tested and calibrated for the nexus 4 so that's your best bet if you want one son for your nexus.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] facetubespam:
So we know that it charges 1-2% over an hour when using GPS/music, etc... but what is the % charged over an hour if you use say just music, or nothing at all?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Read the first post please. All information is in the first post. It charges very well with nothing running and with only music streaming and screen off it still charges well.

Expect around 10% over 15-20 minutes with nothing running, and maybe 6-8% in a similar time frame with music streaming and screen on and off throughout.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] idigg:
Who wants to go in on the CarPad/G with me? Owl has buy 2 for $120 shipped. Anyone in Milwaukee, Southern WI area? $60 a piece is good price.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Updated the topic name and put all of the purchasing info up top on the front page in green. Trying to keep it organized, but there's a ton of info to go through.

Let me know if anyone has any other questions or suggestions. I'm going to take some vids now and see if I can put together some usage examples/shots.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
Re: Owl CarPad /G Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount ~ Ships Next Week ~ See first post

I don't get it? So where do I need to write down my address etc ? Do I only need to write down 65 ? And pay ?

Never mind, ordered 1

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Just made a super long in-depth video review of the CarPad/G. Posting soon!!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Word of caution - especially about the title.

The text on the website says Feb 2nd/3rd.

One of Moon's replies says 2nd/3rd WEEK of Feb.

"I will send OwlPad first and new version CarPad be sent on Feb 2nd~3rd week."

I think you need to update the title and the expectation as I don't think it will be shipping next week.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Thanks a TON.. I read that wrong!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
It does actually say 2nd/3rd in the main section but I think Moon has missed the 'week' - his English is pretty good but not the best (much better than my Korean no doubt!)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
Re: Owl CarPad /G Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount ~ Ships Next Week ~ See first post

What? So we will getting 2 chargers ? I don't get it..

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
That was in reply to someone who was buying the combo pack - Owlpad + Carpad.

He said the Owlpad was in stock, ships straight away.

Carpad ships in the 2nd/3rd week of Feb.

Not relevant to people getting just the carpad other than the date is probably more accurate than the main body details.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
Re: Owl CarPad /G Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount ~ Ships Next Week ~ See first post

What's the difference between the owlpad and carpad?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Owlpad is just the desktop charging pad:

http://owlpad.net/owlpad-for-nexus-4-n-qi/
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
Re: Owl CarPad /G Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount ~ Ships Next Week ~ See first post

Aaahhhh.. Okay I've bought the carpad, the carpad was in total 65 right ?

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Yes. I bought the combo owlpad + carpad for $100.

Seemed like a good price.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] sirbagin:
Re: Owl CarPad /G Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount ~ Ships Late Feb. ~ See first post

Paypal has your registered delivery address and that's where it will be sent to.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Re: Owl CarPad /G Qi Wireless Charging Car Mount ~ Ships Late Feb. ~ See first post

OK, so just to clarify things, Moon just sent me this info.

" We will ship out CarPad/G from the middle of next week."
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
some new info to update all.

I have received the replacement cigarette adaptor + owlpad from Moon.

Finally carpad is able to charge at a decent rate and the adaptor is barely warm.

However I noticed a strange thing with my TPU case.

With TPU case on, Phone idle, current ranges from 200-300+ma.

with the naked phone, ranges from 500-600+ma.

Same test result whether with the ciggy adaptor or the ac adaptor that comes with the owl charger.

Now, if i repeat the same TPU/naked test with the Owl charger, there is no difference in charging speed. 500-600+ma.

Really strange.

I'm using a generic $2 S-line TPU casing from Ebay.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
So let me clarify.

On the car charger - TPU case on creates lower results than when the phone is bare

On the desktop charger - TPU case on doesn't affect the charging rate at all?

Or are you only changing out the power source with cig adapter vs wall outlet plug?

I'm not sure why you are seeing these results, as with TPU cases on, I never saw a change in performance. Could possibly be 2 things.

Either your cigarette lighter port doesn't supply enough to the charger to maintain 12V constant that the cig adapter is trying to create, or maybe its possible the placement on the car charger is off?

Could be that the inductive disc inside the carpad is a little bit off? Causing the charging to not be as strong, which would make the thickness of the TPU case matter?

Try repositioning the phone on the car charger about half an inch higher than the full bottom position. If same results, try a whole inch higher?

Let us know what you find out.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
changing the type of power supply to the carpad didnt matter.

it was only affected by whether the TPU case was on or not.

i will try repositioning the phone.....

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update. my carpad seems affected by even the tiniest deviation from the bottom most position.

to simulate the TPU cover, i put 3 biz cards behind. and slowly slid the naked phone up.

once the gap between the "legs" and the phone edge is about 2-3mm, the charging speed drops to 300+ma.

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lets wait for the /G version to come next week and I will update all again.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Alright everyone!

Here's my in-depth review video of the CarPad/G.

[YOUTUBE]Gtz4VFkbNJ4[/YOUTUBE]

It's 26 minutes long, so have at it, or skip around if you like.

I tried to be as thorough as possible and answer all of the questions as I could. Hope it's not too boring.

I know it's a bit shaky, but trying to add YouTube's or other program's stabilization just made things look weird and not very good.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kpjimmy:
MAZDA :)

Mazda family here too :) Great review. Thanks for all your work on this from the beginning! Looks like you learned more than you bargained for lol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] idigg:
"And the light is green" LOL that was funny.

Delrazor - I have the same car as you and want the same exact setup, do you think moon would sell me the CarPad + nuts + the arm for cheaper than $65? I want to buy the Arkon mount you have and use the arm from the carpad like you did. Sweet setup and awesome video.

---------- Post added at 04:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

Also, I have bluetooth in my Mazda, and when I stream music to bluetooth to my Mazda speakers, it sounds, well pretty crappy? Any fixes for that or should I plan on using a line in cable like I have been?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Thanks,

I don't think they'd be willing to piece the thing out more than they have. I'm actually quite surprised they did with the "no mount" solution.

My suggestion would be to get the "no mount" solution which comes with just the charger portion, the cig plug adapter, and the screw ring for the back.. then go get the Arkon MG178 and see what you think. You may actually be alright with that alone. The curved version from the CarPad set isn't all that different than the MG178 arm. and in all actuality, I believe i may have just gotten a bum version of the MG178 arm/ball.. it seemed just a LITTLE too loose for my taste.. but honestly, the looseness was negligible. I'm just used to having it concrete solid..

As far as the Bluetooth situation is concerned.. I'm not sure why that's happening to you. I pretty much get CD Quality sound out of my bluetooth connection in my car. I'll hear a little random pop or tap every now and then, but nothing annoying enough not to use the method.. Do you have the technology package or anything like that? Mine is just the 2010 Mazda 3 Sport package.. no Navigation, just a grey and white screen on the left and the red screen on the right.

I've heard a lot of people complain about the quality of BlueTooth audio over the avrcp connection, but I've never had issue with it. Maybe my car is a different build version than yours? (mine has mirror turn signal lights, I know not all from 2010 had those)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
The only thing I'm worrying about is, isn't it bad to charge your phone while it isn't at like 10% ? So charging for 30 minutes and walking away again.. And then charge it again for 30 minutes..

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Azurael:
Wait... A Qi-enabled car cradle like this + custom NFC tag = a phone that automatically turns on Bluetooth, connects to my A2DP-enabled car stereo, starts car home and charges, all without connecting cables every time?! Or any interaction at all, actually.

I'm pretty sure they said this would be possible once on Tomorrow's World back when I was a kid, and a mobile phone was the size of a lunchbox... But... I can't wait for my Nexus 4 even more now. Curse you Google!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Corundum:
Has anyone ordered a whole bunch of these to sell in Canada or the USA?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] facetubespam:
Why? Unless they are selling it at the bulk price ordered and eating up the shipping costs themselves, they would most likely be selling it for a profit and at that point, it would be wiser to just buy it straight from the source.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Narcopolypse was taking a list of people interested, but I haven't seen him around this thread for a while now.

Might be off doing armed forces things.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
I've got some NFC tags on their way and will be testing them out with this by next week some time. Not sure if they'll have any issues with the inductive power field or not. We'll see..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Which tags are you going for?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Russ.Dill:
I have some tags here, the first problem I had with them with respect to my charging mat is that they were too thick, probably about 1.25mm each. I sanded one down till it was paper thin. It worked, but unfortunately NFC tags don't work like I imaging. The only NFC event your app gets is tag scanned. So to change profile to car mode, you scan a tag, to change it back to it's original mode, you scan the same tag again. If you left the tag underneath the phone, it wouldn't a second scan event when you take it off, and you wouldn't know that the tag is continually under there. Worse, it may give a scan every now and then and toggle the state.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
I'll post here right before I put them up for sale so you guys can stalk Ebay for them and get first dibs.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] aashmir:
I think I would be interested in one as well! :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] quentin0:
I would interested too as long as it works. Emailed Moon as well about this:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Russ.Dill:
Yes, definitely interested. A card dock with Qi charging, that would be really, really awesome. And if you could throw in an NFC tag (for notifying the phone that it is in the car dock), even better.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] goldentuna:
Well... can't blame a guy for trying ;)

Sign me up for one too... of the car docks. At least - let us know when you get them - so you don't sell out before we can respond.

EDIT: (just saw your post above that you'd let us know - great!)

Do you have any idea on the cost yet?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ruthlesset:
I would be interested in buying one too...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
I will probably be selling them for $80 on Fleabay. If I can go cheaper then that I will but I won't know until Moon ships my first retail batch. I'll be ordering $500 worth of product at whatever price he gives me (which will probably mean 10 docks) and I'll give XDA members first priority and sell at cost if possible. And no, I'm not some big faceless corporation. That $500 is coming out of my savings account.

As for time frame, I can't really saybut it looks like on sale before Christmas is out. All I know right now is that Moon sure is taking his sweet ass time. :mad:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jdavet:
Thanks so much. I'm definitely interested in a qi car dock.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rubi76:
In for one.

Just pm me when ready.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
Will do.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FSRBIKER:
I'm interested as well, please PM when they are ready to order.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] wera750:
Pm me as well I'd love to have one!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
Okay, I've got you all on the list.

I just got confirmation that my evaluation units have finally shipped (freakin' took long enough) so the minute they arrive I will test them for compatibility and order the sales units immediately.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mlemonds:
let me know as well, I am hoping these work!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ljwnow:
i am in. sign me up pls
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
Will you be shipping to Canada? If so I'll be interested in one too.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tuanster1119:
Interested in one too, feel free to add me to your list if there's still space.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
I will be getting 10 units per shipment.

My list so far is as follows:

1. kpjimmy

2. aashmir

3. quentin0

4. Russ.Dill

5. goldentuna

6. ruthlesset

7. TheMrFalcon

8. jdavet

9. rubi76

10. FSRBIKER

11. wera750

12. mlemonds

13. ljwnow

14. neotekz

15. tuanster1119

Feel free to make more requests. I will offer these on a first request first serve basis to XDA members before I put them up for sale on Fleabay.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kpjimmy:
WOOT I'm #1! LOL Thanks man!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
You were the first one to ask.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
Tested the owlpad today. (the desktop variant)

Got the infamous cannot charge to 100% problem.

Various stops at 88%, 90+ percent.

If you redock it, it will attempt to charge it a little bit more and then the indicator light goes green again.

My N4 is rev 10.

The ongoing rumour is that rev12 is the one that was certified by Qi wireless power consortium.

Sigh.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Does it just stop and then start to discharge or does it restart?

(ie if you left it on for a day would it still be close to 100% or would it be discharging?)

Also how touchy is it with the placement on the mat? Has to be spot on or some leeway?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
dunno. havent left it long enough to test if it will restart the charging.

will leave it overnight tonight and see what happens.

placement is is quite ok. there is a recessed groove which will naturally guide the phone to nestle in the charger.

charging araa is also quite large. even if you shift it off by with the bottom of the phone jutting out of the pad, it will still charge.

but i dont see y you will what to do that given the design of the recessed area.

the shape and size of pad is just nice for 4.7" devices (even with a tpu case). phablets like note2 will not nestle in nicely.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
These ones.

TagsForDroid 5 NFC Tags + 1 NFC Key Chain + Stickers (NTAG203)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AJPSTLS/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
[Nexus 4 Accessories] c6comp:
I'm thinking about getting one of these to use as a car dash dam of sorts. Can anyone 100 percent verify that the phones camera is not blocked by the carpad/g? It looks fine in the videos but I just want to make sure. If it's unblocked I'm completely sold.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
It's not blocked.

This is a timelapse video I made using it.

[YOUTUBE]O9VmmRuYAhQ[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rxnelson:
Is it possibly getting too hot and shutting charging down?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] c6comp:
Thanks for the lightning quick reply. I just bought one carpad. Hopefully i get it in a few weeks :D i plan on sticking an nfc tag near it to start up a dash cam app for the ultimate in laziness.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Here's a direct quote from Moon about the desktop charger.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rxnelson:
Yes my lg sometimes will stop at 95, 98% etc. The other guy above said 88 or something. I saw that on my dash mounted gnex with pogo. In the summer it would hold charge but not go up because of heat. If I aimed ac vent at it it would resume. I kind of expect that with this product in the summer.

Edit: yes I know he said desktop variant but heat is heat.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] qbase775:
What kind of power plug does the OwlPad power adapter have? I'm hoping for a 240v Europlug :fingers-crossed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
I don't have an owlpad desktop charger yet, but this is what Moon sent over to me with my test units. It came with an adapter for US plugs.

http://i.imgur.com/p208Adu.jpg
[Nexus 4 Accessories] facetubespam:
The Nexus 4 seems to be affected by heat quite a bit. I know if I am just charging it via the usb wall charger, when it gets to a certain heat degree, it will switch from AC to USB in an effort to reduce the amount of heat via less power pumping through.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] cobyman7035:
Anyone tried out the fast tech on clothes Wireless q charger it was like 37 + shipping

Google Voice via my NeXus⁴ using XDA Premium
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rxnelson:
I think there is an autocorrect in there somewhere but yea I have the fasttech. Pretty much what the thread on it says. Giant blue light and it seems to have a hard time charging through cases. Worked on LG bumper, poetic bumper, no go on poetic atomosphere. I've been too lazy to test my other cases.

Can someone with the owl desktop version try it with different cases and report back?--thanks.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
nope. its not too hot, charging at home, temp never went above 40 deg C.

ambient temp was around 29 deg C or so.

---------- Post added at 07:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:34 AM ----------

another update from yesterday testing.

charges the phone using the owlpad (desktop variant).

started at 79%.

charged to 91% and the indicator turned green.

took it off the cradle and put it back.

charged a bit more to 94%.

left it there for 2 more hours. the indicator never turned back red again. (battery history also verified that no charge was coming in, temp also dropped back to ambient, which is a good thing).

without lifting from cradle, I activated radio streaming with screen on.

Ran it down to 86%.

The charging never restarted.

so seems like the charger circuit just stops and dont have the intelligence to kick start the charging again.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Utini:
That destroys all my plans :(

I wanted to use Tasker & NFC tags. E.g. as long as my phone is on the tag (which I glue on the car mount) the car mode is activated (=tasker profile). But when I remove the phone it gets deactivated :/
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Grmpf66:
2 solutions:

a) put another NFC tag somewhere on the door, or middle consol to deactivate the car mode - just hold it against it if you are leaving the car.

b) use Tasker to listen to the Bluetooth connection between your phone and the audio system in the car. If the connection is quit (you obviously left the car) tell Tasker to turn of the car mode.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] qbase775:
Thank you delrazor, looks like a europlug :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Utini:
no bluetooth in car, another nfc tag is lame :P