yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note II General] Dylanlewis2000:
I have decided to do a little comparison test with the Galaxy note 2 and my old iPhone 4. I have only recently come aboard the good ship Android, so I am still finding my way around. Although I fully understand that the camera does not make or break the phone, for me it is one of the features that I rely on now and again.

I love taking a picture with my SLR but there are times when you cannot use the SLR, or times when you do not want to take it out so for me the camera is something I use. If it had been my sole requirement i would have probably chosen the Nokia 808 Pureview, but Nokia decided to cripple their phones using their chosen software - but that's is another debate.

I didn’t want to do a tremendous amount of testing so I decided to use the stock apps on both phones. I have paid a little more detail to the Note 2 with looking at the normal picture setting and the low light function. I may use another application on the note as the standard camera app is not the best.

I placed a book, a battery and a sound card in my photo booth. The reason for these items was to get something with a plain colour (the book) something that is small but has a little bit of detail (battery) and something that has a lot of detail (sound card). All tests were conducted indoors, nothing outdoors as of yet.

iPhone image:

Note 2 Image:

From both images you can see there is a definite difference. The iPhones image has a little more ‘viberance’ to it. Overall the colour on the iPhone looks better overall whereas the note 2 image looks a little washed out, however this is purely subjective and I like my photos to have a little more saturation. When viewing photos on the AMOLED screen they do look incredibly vibrant, however, on a normal monitor they do not. What is quite interesting is that the file size of the iPhone 4 image is actually larger than that of the 8 mega pixel file form the Note 2. This could be for a number of reasons; one could be the amount of sharpening applied in the processing, another could be the amount of saturation the software adds to give it a little more ‘zing’.

When testing the sharpness and detail of a camera most magazines tend to do 100% crops showing how much detail can be resolved. The comparisons have been done below.

iPhone first, then Note 2.

Crop with low light mode enabled

From this quick demo you can see that there is a slight difference between the iPhone and the Samsung photos. Personally I don’t think its hardware related, I’m pretty sure that it is software related. I am going on the browse for some add free, free camera software and take a few photos with that.

Once again I would like to stress that this is just an indoor shot, and I have simply not had time to do any outdoor shots. Maybe I will try some on the weekend and report back then.

What do you lot think?
[Galaxy Note II General] CitizenLee:
Like yourself it seems, photography is a big hobby of mine and whilst I use a DSLR normally too, I'm more than happy to have my Note 2 with me for quick snaps.

Looking at your test shots, I'd say overall there's not much between them.

iPhone is definitely more vibrant, but the Note 2 shots look more natural. Looking at the uncropped shots, the Note 2 seems to give a clearer image but when viewed at 100% the iPhone seems to have captured slightly more detail. I'd say the Note 2 controls noise better, especially with low light mode. Even without low light mode the Note 2 seems to use more noise control than the iPhone. The downside to this is that more noise control can lead to softer shots, which is why the iPhone shots looks a touch sharper, if a little grainy.

Could all just be my eyes though :)

Random fact... the Note 2 was originally meant to ship with a 13MP Sony sensor, but Sony couldn't produce enough in time to meet Samsung's deadline so instead it shipped with an 8MP sensor. As you probably know, more MP doesn't always mean a better image as cramming more pixels on a small sensor means each pixel can capture less light, but it would have been interesting to see what the images would have been like had it got the 13MP sensor.
[Galaxy Note II General] Dylanlewis2000:
I really wish nokia would have licensed their Pureview tech to Samsung. Would make it a little better.
[Galaxy Note II General] heinrich:
Though the GS2 and the GN2 both have an 8MP camera, I find the GN2's camera far superior. I suspect this may have something to do with the faster CPU, but not sure. I have used both extensively.
[Galaxy Note II General] brooon:
I really wish Nokia would produce android devices as well...
[Galaxy Note II General] interfreak:
The iPhone clearly takes sharper images in this comparison, at the expense of noise. Contrast appears to be much better with the iPhone as well, the GN2 photos look a little 'washed out'. Colours are more vibrant with the iPhone as well but perhaps too much?
[Galaxy Note II General] jujuburi:
A semi pro photographer here, hobby too. I never liked any cell phone's camera to be honest. But when I had my C905, things were little better. It had an impressive camera, almost replaced my Ixus for now and then, here and there shots. Then I got the Satio. Another good one. Then don't know what happened, I stepped into Samsung! My first Sammy was a i8910, it had a good camera. So I thought let's continue with Samsung. Next was Wave S8500, I didn't buy it for camera anyway. Then I got the infamous SII. Well after using it for more than year, I can say I was 'fairly' happy with it. Now, Note 2, I don't know, right from the first shot, till now, I DO NOT like this camera, how the photos are appearing, are below average in my eyes.

It's always about 'post software processing' in a mobile camera. A tiny sensor can never produce great photos. So it all matters how the photo is being processed after taking it via the camera firmware provided. That's where a brand plays it tricks. Most of them have Sony's sensor, so talking about hardware is meaningless. Now, here in Note 2, the post processing seems either to be not full or poorly done. Optimizing a photo is bad! An average user, who really would care about the 'background' processes, all they will see the ultimate photo, and there Note 2 fails. Photos turn out grainy, with noise. The biggest letdown is the led flash. At night, in parties, when it's dark, and you don't have your SLR or it's not the place for it, of course you'll need flash. The flash is terribly weak, and badly spread.

Anyway, writing too much, I'm short, after owning 7 or 8 high end cell phones, with their average camera, this Note 2 camera is the most disappointing in my eyes.

However, I don't give a damn, I always (you know what I mean) carry my 350 or D90 (yeah, I know, they are average DSLR), so I'd not bother much about this, BUT not everyone is like me or like OP, for them a 700$ mobile phone should provide 'fairly good' output, where this device, F A I L S.

Now, one thing you see, I really won't bother by some fanboys quoting my comment and say otherwise, knowing I've spent my hard time and money, for more than a decade behind photography. So thanks to them in advance anyway :)

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] adytum:
The main issue comes down to the camera using iso 800 on auto mode in many scenes, i.e indoors, which is just bizarre. Set it to a lower value manually and the graininess gets a lot better.
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
If you want more vibrant colours in the settings select SCN/Panorama.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dionysos803:
How is the user experience on a rooted Galaxy Note II? I want to root it ASAP but i do not want to loose out on how smooth a stock Note 2 runs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Speedy Gonzalez:
is as smooth because we are using the same stock rom so it won't be different on that regard

for root if you don't have a reason to use it don't even bother in my case the phone without root will be like a car without keys because 50% of my apps need root
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
This isn't true IMO. Root to get rid of bloatware at the very least.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DaWolf850:
I would count that as "a reason to use it".
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Speedy Gonzalez:
Well if you really want reasons we can go on and on but the OP may not be familiar with root that's why I said that because things can go wrong easy having root access
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] vjolt830:
thanks for info
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dionysos803:
I always root my phones, but its always a little glitchy (in perspective a like-stock phone still has issues too). I see so much potential in a rooted GSN2, with being able to add more apps to the split screen app options. In this case, i don't want to forego a super smooth user experience for more options but a glitchy experience...That where my concern comes in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Its TwiX:
What? It's the same as stock... but with the ability to remove bloat and add modifications. Also, you can add apps to multiwindow without root it just takes a lot more work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Hitman3984:
the one thing stopping me is worrying about an update forcing it's way through and bricking the device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Its TwiX:
All updates are optional.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Hitman3984:
true but, and correct me if i'm wrong, if you don't see that update in time to defer it, it will attempt to DL/install it on it's own.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] sleevasteve:
My understanding is you can still update, because it's stock. Not sure if you would lose SU though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] xxxxmarkxxx:
You can take a ota while rooted but you'll lose root. . If you deleted boat or modded certain things you could brick if you don't revert them back to stock... heres what my theory if you don't have specific reasons to root then you probably don't need to if you're going to be aware you can mess up your device if you don't follow instructions and have a basic understanding of what you're doing .... root alone doesn't give you any additional performance

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I've seen ota's automatically download and attempt install but the last few I've gotten had to be installed by the user

I'm sure we could find a ota block by then anyway

also you can trick the phone into thinking it took the update to stop getting the reminder by editing the build.prop
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dionysos803:
]I've rooted my note 2 and so far it s almost flawless. ..The only issue I've come across Is saving videos to the sd card. Saving pics or videos to the phone works jusrlt fine. Saving pics to the sd card works just fine...its just when I take a video that is suppose to be saved to the sd card. Any suggestions?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Droidneedzsence:
Dumb Question

OK so from my understanding the device has a chance to brick if you root and uninstall the bloat and get an OTA update and allow it to go through.

K so I want root to delete the trash that comes pre installed (bloat as we all call it) However, instead of a custom ROM I wanna Stay With stock, at least until we get a ROM (When we find a way through the bootloader) that can use the SPen and stays stable and updated. untilll that day comes or sammy stops development I want the Stock Setup and there updates just debloated. Here's my dumb question... Without it having an unlocked bootloader is there any way to flash back to stock incase it locks up and bricks, or is it just better to wait for the BLunlock to be safer. love the phone as is I just hate that Verizon puts all there garbage on... it would be one thing if it were optional or able to be deleted, but having to hack there trash out is not cool.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Hitman3984:
If it soft bricks/gets stuck in bootloop and you can get into odin download mode you can almost always flash back to stock to fix the issue I believe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RaptorMD:
Absolutely no issues, I can now get around to backing up the bloatware with TI Backup and then uninstall that crap or delete it either way its going, going, gone. Root is the way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] flaring afro:
It's not a big deal because you can disable it without root anyways. Maybe it takes up a MB or two of memory but that's not a big deal.

Did it work before rooting? Rooting by itself shouldn't cause an issue like that. My guess is the card isn't fast enough for the 1080p video data it's recording.

To the OP, something you might find useful in root is that Adblock Plus works only with wifi without rooting. Even if ads don't bother you, they use your data and I assume it's capped for you, like it is for most people.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dionysos803:
Yes this feature was working prior to rooting my phone that's why this is a concern of mine
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] blackbass595:
Theres an app you can feeeze and not have to worry about update. Something 101 I believe.

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Excuse me SDM 1.0 ... someone wanna confirm this? I think droidstyle said it in another thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] guthrien:
I really don't understand why someone at this of all sites wouldn't root. It seems pure misinformation stands at the heart of it, and some of the best android apps require it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] sennie87:
upstair, like your quote so much .. XD
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Andrew_han:
Hey! Just wondering if anyone had consider pulling the camera apk from the galaxy camera and making it work on our phone? If I knew how I'd defitbe doing it
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] troycarpenter:
I see you are asking for the camera, but here's the photo wizard app from Galaxy Camera.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2011139

The thread is from T-Mobile forum, but works fine on my AT&T version.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
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Hello everyone! I started building AOKP roms a while back for the Galaxy Nexus and would like to support the Nexus4!

I've been running my own nightlys for a while now and figured I'd share with the community :)

AOKP is a WORK IN PROGRESS; some things might be broken or missing.
I'm still learning to build roms; I may have broken additional things.
Don't flash any of my builds unless you are comfortable
with reverting to a prior ROM in case something does go wrong. Keep in
mind that I build these for fun

I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IF YOUR PHONE EXPLODES.
You've been warned. ;)

This was built from AOKP source

AOKP Website

AOKP Gerrit

Thanks to the team KANG for an amazing product and all their hard work!

Thanks to the Cyanogenmod team for all they've contributed to Android. We wouldn't be where we are now without them!

Thanks to all the Devs who submit commits to AOKP Gerrit - this keeps the project flowing and gives me cherries to pick :)

Thanks to all of you who try this ROM for making the time I spent on this worth while! :)

What I want to add to the rom:

* CMFileManager

* Apollo

* Goo.im OTAs

* Include Goo.im app with rom

* Custom boot animation

* Custom Default Wallpaper

What I've changed:

* Added CMFileManager

* Added Apollo

* Goo.im OTAs are working!

* Added Goo.im app

* Wallpaper in the OP will now be the default wallpaper for new installs. - THANKS MAZDA

-= Cherries picked from gerrit.aokp.co =-

I'm currently building nightly AOKP builds without additional cherry picking.

What works:

Everything should be working

What's broken?

You tell me

Fresh Install

Wipe data/Factory Reset

Wipe Cache Partition

Wipe Davlik Cache

Flash ROM.zip, Gapps, and Kernel if desired

Reboot

Coming from previous nightly

Wipe Cache Partition

Wipe Davlik Cache

Flash ROM, Gapps, and Kernel

ROMS:

4.2.2

Downloads

GAPPS:

4.2.2 Gapps

If you download my Rom, Let me know!

I'd like to know if the community wants me to keep this up or not. :)

Thanks and Enjoy!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
also mine :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
one more... for good measure
[Nexus 4 Android Development] alewis2k12:
Glad to see you here.....will be trying this asap
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jaestreetss:
The link is broken
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
What link is? They both seem to work for me
[Nexus 4 Android Development] XupModz:
Working here
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ArmandHammer:
What's the difference between this AOKP ROM from the one in original development?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
the original dev thread is official AOKP supported.

Mine is unofficial. as of right now both are practically the same but when I start cherry picking this will be the same as that one plus extra features :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] solrac.dc:
I'm all about change. Thanks for this!!! Downloading now and will take it for a spin a day or two ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] solrac.dc:
So couple of hours in and may I just say............WOW!!! LUV LUV the zipness, rich colors and overall performance!

Think this may be my ROM of choice for a while! :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
I'm glad you like it!!

Thanks for letting me know! :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] solrac.dc:
Absolutely!! Also don't forget to hit my thanks button ;)

Let me ask LOL what song is your Boot Animator jamming too LOL
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
He's jammin to what ever you want haha.

I was sitting around one day trying to think of a fun boot animation for my Rom and that's what I came up with
[Nexus 4 Android Development] solrac.dc:
I've been jamming a lot to Will.I.Am track "Scream & Shout" so there you go :) :)

EDIT: Yo!!! That quick reply pop up window is SICK. Like how it is done up, this junt is getting better and better!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Jesushasadroid:
going for a spin...will report back...looking forward to it...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] chiensibut:
somehow i got system force close on the first boot anyone?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] exadeci:
No changes for now ? Then I will wait for the changes before trying it
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
Did it continue to do that over and over or just once?

Did a reboot fix it?

Cherrypicks are coming soon :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
Thats really strange. have you tried a clean install?

Mine is working without any problems
[Nexus 4 Android Development] DnickDominic:
Re: [ROM] [unofficial] 4.2.2 AOKP - 03.26.2013 Nexus4

Ive had that issue on quite a few roms. Its just the new superuser is buggy how they put it in the roms. Flash supersu and it should work
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bige93:
I found out that this bug happens with Matr1x kernel both 7.5 and 8.0 versions. Clear rom works fine. Before trying this latest AOKP build i used some previous version of it, worked great with Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] apatal:
Re: [ROM] [unofficial] 4.2.2 AOKP - 03.26.2013 Nexus4

For those having superuser problems, try installing the cm compatible version of your preferred custom kernel if applicable/available. Or use Trinity like I do, no problems with su. :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sblmnl:
Is there any way you can add the pie controls from Paranoid Android?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
download LMT - its the same thing :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bige93:
Flashed CM version of Matr1x kernel. It works indeed! Thnx so much!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bige93:
Another issue. WiFi Direct does not work. Even no icon in status bar. Phone says 'connected', but I can't send any file, and can't recieve as well. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
This would be hard to test. I dont use WiFi Direct.

Anyone else who uses this seeing this problem?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Spitfire:
Read this on the wifi-direct page:

WiFi Direct drivers are broken on many devices, which led to users leaving negative reviews for this app. As I don't see any sense in keeping a free app published when only getting 1-star-ratings (for an issue which only your device manufacturer can fix), the app is no longer available at the Play Store

Did it work on older versions of this rom?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
Next build coming tomorrow :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
04/05/2013 uploaded

Enjoy!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mongonexus:
4-05-13 running smoothlike with faux kernal, thankyou for sharing,,steve
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Johnny424:
anyone know where I can find the aokp wallpaper in the op?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
Check page 15 :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
In order to further my knowledge in development I've been toying with getting features from other roms built into this one. Todays update will include CMFileManager.

Download link will be in the OP soon :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tanmay.01:
AOKP is stable and has hell lot custom optins, just does not have 1 good feature ... i.e PIE from PA.

I'll start using this rom as a daily driver if thats included, just now using XYLON becaused its kanged + pie. It has some other things like phone mode and dpi changes, which i dont think are needed. But hey i dont have time to build aokp + pie. And thanks for the nighlies..!

:D

:good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
sure thing! have you tried LMT? its the same thing as pie but a stand alone app
[Nexus 4 Android Development] khanh1289:
Does this rom has Linaro optimizations? i prefer not to have it
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
no, at this time the rom is stock AOKP with CMFileManager
[Nexus 4 Android Development] khanh1289:
a small visual change request.. will you please replace the "Kill All" button and replace it with the 3 lines like the dimiss notification?

Edit.. and also cLock from CM
[Nexus 4 Android Development] maghig:
Just did a clean flash and i can't get the charging led to work. Rebooting just clears the option.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
OTAs ate now working in GooManager. For those of you who use goo the download is ready. I'll post the link in the op later today.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
I'll look into these for my next addition :)

I'll try this on mine later today and see if it works
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
OP updated with new download link

4.10 build has Apollo from CM and now supports OTAs from Goo.im
[Nexus 4 Android Development] casonswag:
Ok i flashed the latest nightly but have no wallpaper its just a black background and i cant even set a wallpaper?

NEXUS⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
I'm pretty sure I know what this is. I'll check it out today
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Zehlek:
I was wondering if you could include PIE option and maybe even Hybrid in your updates?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
For pie you can use LMT. it's a stand alone app. You can find it on xda.

Have you looked at these options in rom manager for changing the ui? See Screenshots
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Zehlek:
Cool I didn't know those option were in AOKP. I will definitely be downloading when I get home from work.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
I fixed it in today's build

:)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
4/11 build uploaded to goo.im

Goo Manager is now included with the Rom
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
Small update just posted.

Fresh installs will start will the wallpaper in the op.

Thanks mazda!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tanmay.01:
I tried using the LMT launcher ... but its not as good as the PIE from PA. Maybe if you have time, you could add it , but then along with it comes additions like navbar & status toggle. And Expanded Desktop. Or may ill do a aokp with pie after my exams but that is may end..!:mad:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shalkith:
Aokp has nav bar and status Toggle already :) also have you tried aokps hideable nav bar feature. It's kinda like toggling the nav bar on and off with a flick of the finger