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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] craby1925:
So with that said, if we wanted to try and figure out the kernel, should we focus on trying to learn Kernel building or something else?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Martovitz:
Thank you for your devotion to this project.

Remember to give THANKS when THANKS are due.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] sxrmafia:
Our Hopes , Best Wishes and Many Thanks are with the Dev Team :)

Love you all at the scene, Greetings from as far as "Indian Occupied Kashmir". :highfive:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1957219

this can help, porting any rom, no kernel
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] PhillyFlyer:
Okay boys - its been a pleasure and I wish all luck with this project. It is time I trade that little devil in and get me a Nexus. Sorry - but theres so much going on for devices outside the Kindle that it I cant stand to watch anymore! LUCK TO YOU!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
ubuntu for phone work good for kindle fire hd, but it will be launched when canonical say us to launch.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] dexxa05:
Hey,

They get it on 8,9" http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2128201

Hashcode and everybody have done a good job!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
Hashcode have.a.8.9 but not a 7"

Sent From My Super Modded KFHD

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Can you help us making a kernel, if we dl.the same steps that hashcode do in the 8.9 we can make it in the 7 more easily

Sent From My Super Modded KFHD

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Reverend and you? Any progress

Sent From My Super Modded KFHD
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Please don't fret folks, there will be progress.

Hashcode has helped me get his CM10.1 2nd-bootloader incorporated into my current ROM, plus there are others who are working on the kernel.

Be on the lookout for a new video from me.... soon ™.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
that was what i wanted to hear, exellent, if you need any help i can help with all you need. i m not a folk, but i wanted to hear something for you, i know you are working on it.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hollaback12786:
Just subscribed :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] fattire:
Some stuff...

Heh. So I didn't squash your optimism too much ...

A couple of quick thoughts:

utkanos and I have been working on the wiki section dealing with porting. It's still very much a work in progress, but might be helpful w/understanding some "bigger picture" stuff.

For anyone interested in learning more about CM, we've been working like 2 months on the stuff in the Wiki . As it pertains to this thread, I'd take a look at the build instructions for various OMAP devices as well as the tutorials in the Development section. If your'e more of a beginner, the Support section has a lot of stuff like basic lingo and help with adb and fastboot and such.

Unfortunately the "unlockable" bootloader situation created some complexities in the necessity for using a second bootloader and some unusual steps regarding the partition and such. You therefore might want, for historic purposes and a more complete understanding of why the boot process is so unusual for the Kfire, to go back and read this old thread. This thread started months ago, around the time of the first announcement of the new Kindles, and includes some basic info (and speculation) about the various models, their codenames, source, kernel configurations, etc. as well as some background for the locked bootloader in relation to otherbootloadres and other stuff. Not everything in that discussion turned out to be accurate or valuable, but there is some historic discussion that may be enlightening.

As it happened, something I noticed in the bootloader code did end up being important, as Green later explained in more detail. After a bit of discussion and planning and a long wait for the devices to be released, he and hashcode, who actually bought some of the devices (I didn't), later created the actual working fix on the 8.9" and Kfire 2, which is what everyone is using now. The same fix works on the 7" and is explained more by hashcode here.

While you may not understand the full details of how the 2nd bootloader works, I think anyone interested in packaging up the kernel should at least understand its necessity and how it is implemented, practically speaking, so that you can create your own .zips for testing.

And now more controversy from me-- anyone who asked above who is truly interested in learning to build/update the kernel for the first time- I'm tellin' ya, the Kindles aren't the best device to get started, due to the totally absurd hurdles introduced by the devices and the semi-convoluted fixes required.

For first-timers, any of the Nexii (Nexuses? Nexen?) are super-wonderful learning devices. Or find an old Nook Color on ebay. They're super-cheap, support CM 10, and are said to be sort of "unbrickable" in the sense that you can completely mess up the entire internal storage and always re-boot back into an SD card and recover from there.

Regardless, I have full confidence that w/hashcode on the case, a decent CM for KF7 is coming one way or another. It may take a while just to do the tedium of getting the kernel up-to-date.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] xxsurfacexx:
I thought there would be a fully working cm10 by now. Doesn't look at to be done anytime in the near future =(
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mindmajick:
@fattire-

Thank you SO MUCH for the detailed info. I'm the type of person who likes to understand everything and now that I've read the linked thread I finally understand how the bootloader works and how it was accomplished.

The work being done on our devices is amazing :D

And I LOVE the difficulty on this device... Makes things interesting ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hashcode:
Not to de-rail, this thread anymore, but a very nice XDA user has shipped me his KFireHD7. Specifically to finish the kernel updates which would bring the 7 up to speed with the 8.9.

I am still quite busy but at least it's just a matter of time now.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
ANY HELP YOU NEED IM HERE FOR HELP YOU :D. i m happy that you have one to build a kernel :victory::victory::victory::victory:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] KindleFireGuy:
Victory dance :D can't wait for cm10.1
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Moscow Desire:
Knock It OFF

Keep things "On Topic" please.

So far, I've seen 2 violations of XDA rules.

1. Flaming

2. Use of profanity

I've cleaned the thread of the useless bickering, so don't make me have to keep an eye on it all day.

Play nice people.

MD
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] craby1925:
Hmmmm, a very special user indeed. Either way happy you're on this hash code. Just don't spread your self too thin.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] motopig:
Me too looking forward to this effort bearing fruit.

Just in time for the occasion, I built a factory cable yesterday and got mine into fastboot. I usually don't like putting ROMs on my devices, but this KFHD is asking for it.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] colt223:
Hashcode has one in his hands now, sweet!.

His work on the original Kindle Fire made turned them into awesome little tablets for my kids.

Hash, PM on the way in case you need another 7" HD for testing.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] esox_hu:
I also loved my good old horse (KF) but i sold it because of the new one...

It can be used with different launcher, rooted and GAPPS installed but a CM10 based rom by hashcode would be marvelous.

If you need some donation, please let us know.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] craby1925:
Well at least an updated kernel would be fabulous!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Dumb question... what are the advantages of running an updated kernel?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Jester6:
mostly overclock/undervolt, generally better battery life, tweaking governors etc.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hashcode:
Its a bit more than just oveclocking/governors and performance tweaks. JB should really use all new PowerVR drivers and some additional ion memory driver tweaks. This provides most of the buttery smoothness that we've come to appreciate in JB. Also, the OS source for running camera/hd codecs has been updated to match and then where users look for additional support for OTG devices all happens at the kernel level.

When you cant change the kernel and grow with the OS that you're running, devs have to start hacking features in to work. and while in some cases this just how its done (locked bootloader phones with more security): in most cases the end result is always affected.

In our case, I may also need kernel changes to rewrite the fairly complicated and very proprietary audio driver. I'm still digging to see what my options are tho.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] xxsurfacexx:
Goodluck brother
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Maromi:
so is this a dead end?

http://opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
why the end

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if you want some tweaks, take and modify my tweaks.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] ryantek:
Man this is a long tread!!

But I am very excited, If I could be of any help just PM.:good:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Hey Hashcode, will you add OTG right of the bat or not? :) Would love to know. Thanks!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Maromi:
Its a link to the linux drivers but its 2.6 kernel there is also tinyhal
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hashcode:
I have this source. unfortunately, it looks nothing like what Amazon has in the kernel or uses in Android.

Its just going to take time.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Isnt this device similar to the 8.9??
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] nim182:
Sorry but, has this thread 33 pages?

Short answer: no

Long answer: click on nº1
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] iboc@n:
how is going ?? any news from custom rom for kindle fire 7''
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] danny19901:
What's working on this may I ask I know WiFi and screen what about Bluetooth and audio I will try soon also great work and keep up the hard work
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hinzman420:
I know audio does not work or streaming video. Probably a lot more, those i know for sure.

Sent From My Rooted Kindle HD 7"
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
This build is put on permanent hold while Hashcode develops CM10.1 instead.

If we get stuck, we may revisit this, but I doubt that will be the case.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Gerr1985:
That is super sweet news!!!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Is the 10.1 going to serve the 8.9" & 7"?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Basically.

There are enough differences in the two devices that a LOT of work is needed to get the 7" up to speed with the 8.9", but I feel that eventually they'll get on par with one another and progress together.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
no a custom rom, but is a customized rom, better that nothing

i have modified a lot amazon, and i will add my latest backup, modify it like you want, have all my tweaks, and some other tweaks like trim and min free (trim is the one that lag fix app uses)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] CoB_Mike:
Is Hashcode going to start a new thread with info on his build and any tweaks he is making? Would be nice to be able to follow what he is doing.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
if you need tweaks im the master
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] CoB_Mike:
OK. But not what I am asking.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hollaback12786:
Instead of cluttering up a development thread why don't you just wait and see what hashcode wants to do....
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hashcode:
I'll start a new thread when Im a bit further along in development.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] CoB_Mike:
Thank you Hashcode.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] sxrmafia:
A bit offtopic but my KFHD7 charges only to 70% no matter how long i leave it plugged in.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Jester6:
Try Q&A, you're far more likely to get an answer there than in a dev thread. But since you're here anyway try clearing the cache and fix perms. Sounds more like an android issue than hardware.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
if nothing fix your issue, try reflashing system or factory reset
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] s3rv1cet3ch:
Waiting patiently to get rid of fire os...
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] hamidwt:
Me too! But I'm losing it, in my country internet has been censored and since you cant connect to vpn server via kfhd,this device is somehow useless when it comes to using the internet. i was considering selling my kfhd and buying another tablet but in this price range, none of them has a good display or sound for that matter. So i guess we are stuck with it and we just have to wait.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] P30SiNa:
I know how you feel bro. I need vpn so bad but kindle doesn't support vpn. And with all these censorship and filtering, internet is useless without a vpn.

I'm waiting patiently for CM10 :)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
kindle fire hd support vpn, but need to download an app in amazon appstore
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] hamidwt:
It won't work , we tried everything , you could try too, amazon won't let any apps connect you to vpn server , lots of people have the same problem and as far as I know there isn't any solution .
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Melodycd:
I tryed TunnelBear and it was working fine. This is VPN app. I even checked it out now, and confirm it. Its working.

Droid DNA
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] david.degraw54:
Would it be possible to port the unofficial CM10.1 for the KFHD 8.9" to the 7"?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mrkhigh:
If/when hashcode develops a working kernel for the kfhd7 we'll see roms...not until somebody gets a good kernel tho..
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] degiovab:
CM10 as a TWRP-loadable ZIP

Now that we have TWRP working on KFHD7, would it be possible to get Reverend Kyle's ROM in form of a ZIP that we can flash and test (after a good nandroid backup) ?

Anybody managed to load the alpha CM10 with TWRP?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
You actually DON'T want to do that. My ROM is based on a different kernel/bootloader, and if you DO try to flash my ROM with TWRP, it will break what Hashcode has built for us. I would recommend waiting until Hashcode gets the kernel for cm10.1 built and we can make new ROMs with that.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] degiovab:
Good to know... I was actually going to try and "fastboot flash system revboot.img -i 0x1949" keeping the current boot and recovery.

I would have probably bricked the whole thing.

Patiently waiting then (and in the meantime enjoying Kinology).

Thanks!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Jester6:
I actually did try it some time ago before kinology came out, the only thing that happened was the install gave an error and quit before flashing anything. It may be as simple as repackaging the ROM but I can't confirm that as I haven't felt the need to try.

Edit: The rom is flashable now, boots and works just fine, seems to have issue with saving anything to the internal memory, though downloading and running anything from the play store works great, will look into this some more.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Jester6:
Yeah, flashed with twrp. It sees storage/sdcard0 with nothing in it, but can't seem to write to it which makes me think it's a formatting problem. May try formatting internal storage if nothing else works.

Edit: was much easier than i was making it out to be, in terminal emulator: su / start sdcard / exit. then mount sd card and voila. Everything is working just fine now.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
So... Did you do anything else to make it work? And what still needs worked on?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Jester6:
Didn't really do anything aside from wiping data/system and caches, flashed the ROM, gapps and su (not needed) booted in ran terminal and did what I stated previously. Sound still doesn't work, but I think that's about it I can do some basic things but I'm no dev. Pretty much what worked for rev originally is what works now and what didn't still doesn't. I'm not quite done with it yet but its gonna take time but for now this is good enough for me. I'm a CM addict.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Cool... I think we all are anxious to get CM on the KFHD's.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
yes :p, any news from kernel develop for the 7* one
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/current-projects/

KINDLE FIRE HD 8.9″ / 7″:

Sound driver fix

Tate (7″) integration into new kernel

Camera debug

Bootloader update: add reboot bootloader support
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
i will cry, he is adding the 7" his kernel :), be happy, cm for all :D

when is he realising the kernel?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Yes, Hashcode is working on the 7" as well. That is why I stopped development on this ROM. It makes MUCH more sense to have both the 7" and the 8.9" to progress at the same time.

The kernel is still very much a work in progress. Be patient.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
it is in progress or it exist, but it has a lot of bugs?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Katalystik:
Be patient persano, lol.

I, too am impatient and hate waiting but I'd rather a fully working CM later than a half baked CM now. I'm currently stock rooted with gapps but may look into Kinology until CM comes out and is solid.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
yeah, i know, i m liek crazy, have kinology, and have some work with my tweaks but i love, i will wait
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Why hasn't anyone tried a CM9 rom on the meantime? It shouldn't be hard since the kindle HD is ICS. Right? Like have CM9 to ready and continue working on CM10. Forgive me if I sound pushy, no one has to I'm just putting it out there.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mechanizedmedic:
i've thought about doing this but i'm pretty short on time between work and x-files reruns.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1941239
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
That sounds quite easy (I read the guide), is there any tablet or phone similar to the KFHD that I can try ?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
I considered doing that as well, but I was unsure if there would be any value to that. If I get CM9 working and 2 days later Hashcode gets CM10.1 working, my efforts would be pointless. If somebody REALLY wants to try to do this, it might be a fun project (for someone who has the TIME!)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
I think someone should go for it, Cm9 will probably have less bugs then CM10. It gives people a choice.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
If sound works fine I would rather stay worth cm9. Anyways, if is as easy as the guide states, I just need to find a compatible tablet which runs CM9.. Any Ideas?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mechanizedmedic:
From this chart it looks like the Galaxy Tab2 is the closest in hardware and with an official CM9.

http://www.tabletpccomparison.net/compare-android-tablets

I attempted porting CM9 for the Tab2 7" last night, but I quickly realized that moving across devices/brands is WAY over my head. Hopefully someone with knowledge and experience will take a crack at this.

Sent from Hell™
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Can't it be built from source? .-.

I don't know these things, I just hope someone takes this on.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Katalystik:
Surely it matters not because no port of any ROM will work with the only kernel the KFTT has right now except Stock and any stock hybrids like Kinology.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] iMJets:
Great work Rev its a start!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] craby1925:
Nope, a tad more complicated, but it hasn't been released yet. We are waiting for the process to get a little safer right now.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Actually, if you DO type that command, you get a relatively funny response.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Joomlar:
When will release cm 10 that dont have problems?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] fattire:
ETAs.

I believe the standard answer is "two weeks".
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] esox_hu:
I have N7 too. Screen has broken after two months. Its just landed on wooden floor from 2 feet high. So be careful with N7. I refused service because it would cost about $180. (bought in august for $199) It's a nice device, yeah, but this is a KFHD 7' topic. Thats why i bougth it instead of a new N7.

Everyone here wants CM10 on his/her KFHD and not proving how much "better" N7.

But how much better really? Screen isn't better, sound quality, can't be compared, speed? almost the same, holding in hand: my winner is KFHD as well...

So i think there is no point to mention N7 here. We'll just hope to have CM10 on our KFHD device as soon as it arrives...
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Okay...

I understand and appreciate everyone's opinion on the KFHD7 vs N7 topic. Now, let's move on.

Let's keep this thread focused on the development of CM10 on the KFHD7.

:angel:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] dexxa05:
@reverendkjr One question, when the CM 10 will be available, there we need the root for flash or not?!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] wavrunrx:
oh yeah, and you don't think the kindle fire hd would suffer the same fate ??

please.

:cowboy:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
mine fell from the stairs and beside a couple scratches, its fully working... So, ypur argument is invalid.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Ummm.... yes.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] dexxa05:
Ummm... Bad News...
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] hamidwt:
Why is that? because of new update (7.2.2) that doesn't get root ? If that's the bad news , I'm sure developers figure out a way to root this version, hopefully !!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
If it becomes an issue, we can just flash back to 7.2.1 and then load CWM. Once that is done, there shouldn't be a problem.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Good news...

Touchscreen now appears to be working.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gornog:
Apparently root is still possible for 7.2.2, don't worry: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2035334
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
AWESOME! Great news ^^ from both
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] craby1925:
Glad your staying motivated, and by the looks of it, you will have plenty of alpha testers. Good luck and thanks for what you do!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
Check out the OP for new updates and a video.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] GadgetCheck:
Got my kindle HD today :D

Meow need to jump and start Developing lol :D

@reverendkjr you have all my support, donations heading your way :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] reverendkjr:
TECHNICALLY, the Kinology ROM could be converted over to CM9, Again, someone would have to have the knowledge...and TIME to do so.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
I was really hoping you did. :l hopefully someone sees this and takes action.