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[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Geeze I guess no games for nexus 4 users
[HTC One X+] pure.noob:
Does the Nexus 4 have wifi hotspot, HSDPA+ (4G), and duel band (2.4ghz and 5ghz) wifi?
[HTC One X+] 001358:
HTC one X+

1.7ghz Quad

Amazing SLCD 2 "best display on the market"

Jellybean 4.1 with sense 4+ on top.

8mp image sense camera (dedicated processing chip)

64GB Memory, 55 available to the user.

Nexus 4

1.5ghz quad

Decent 720p display

Mediocre camera

Very fragile glass back

32 or 16 GB memory.

Idk why you ask when the specs are all over xda. I mean the nexus 4 will be smoother, and sense is too in your face, but I'd go with the HOX+. Sorry Google, but HTC has probably the best build quality for its phones out there, no argument can be made. Samsung and just about every other manufacturer uses plastics that make the device feel cheap.
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Nexus storage options are 8gb or 16gb
[HTC One X+] pure.noob:
I just wanted to know does it has those specific features.
[HTC One X+] pure.noob:
Yes, but the user is allocated with a specific amount which lowers than 16gb and 8gb (which ever the other model has)
[HTC One X+] backstudio:
Just to chime in

I've been kicking around the same decision re: Nexus 4 vs HOX+. Having a Nexus 7, I love the look of stock Jellybean. Not a fan of the Sense Graphics/Themes and find the look dated (as mentioned in this thread already). If there was a foolproof way to install AOSP on the HOX+ and get the Google OTA updates, that would make my decision for me. If anyone knows of this option, I'm all ears.

Not to hijack the thread or anything. If I have to start a new one, I will. But since the OP original decision making process may require this info (really reaching here) then it could be answered without a new thread subject.

On another note, the reason for my leaning to the OneX+ is: Design: the feel of this phone in the hand is second bar none. Screen: Superb. Storage: Huge and therefore, lack of SD not a concern. Second Iteration: the kinks have been worked out of its construction, quality appears very good. Camera: One of the best 8mp on a smartphone with good camera software to boot.

Negative: Software: UI Design looks old, less sophisticated to my eyes. Updates: with stock Sense 4+ they will be slow and most likely stop before updates stop rolling out for the Nexus 4 stock.
[HTC One X+] zounduser:
Get the HOX+ its a no brainer really!!!!! Its the best device out right now!!! Even better than the DNA. I just got mine today, coming from a HTC ONE X, this phone is perfect. Its got 64gb of storage, jb, and sense......what else could a guy want?!!!! Its the perfect device in my mind. :p

Sent from my HTC One X+ using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X+] CirgioD:
+1 zound knows better ;) by the way, zound how's the overall shift to X+? :thumbup:
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
How can it be better than the DNA other than having more storage?

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How did you get 2 thanks for such a misleading post?

Nexus 4 comes in 8 and 16 gig

nexus 4's snapdragon S4 pro kicks the Tegra 3 1.7ghz in the butt.

Nexus 4 will always have update soon as they are available, One X+ will have update late and once the next hTC flagship comes out early next year it will be forgotten. Nexus 4 has 2 gigs of ram and is a multitasking champ. Nexus 4 doesn't need S off, boot loader is easily unlockable and dev community is gonna be better.

One X* has a better display, better camera and absolutely stunning design. Everything else is better on the Nexus 4. That's the reality.
[HTC One X+] AndroHero:
Actually all benchmarks point to the fact that our particular model of tegra 3 is easly on par with the S4 if not a little powerhungry. Also the GeForce GPU in our phones destroys adreno. Also HTC has done a remarkable job with the multitasking. I have owned a Note II and currently own a note 10.1. Both have 2GB ram and i see no discernable difference between them and my HOX+. Anyway regardless of what google tell you. 2GB ram is overkill for a mobile phone. Its 4 times the minimum requirements for windows 8 and enough to run BF3 on ultra. Don't beleve all that apple tells you ;)
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
Lol, I got the iPhone 5 yesterday, it's a step backwards to take 4 steps forwards. Back to the topic, 2 gigs of ram isn't overkill at all. 1.I own the nexus 4, apps stay in memory forever, even after several hours of standby or uses, when you come back your app is in the same state as you left it. 2. There is no debate here, the snapdragon S4 pro is better than the Tegra 3, period. Benchmarks are benchmarks and numbers, example is antutu. Before the big update, the nexus 4 would get between 9000 and 10000 max. Now with the update, it does more than 18000. Lots of benchmark tools aren't update for android 4.2 and stock android has never been the leader in benchmarks but trust me, the Nexus 4 flies through everything, nothing is smoother or more fluid. 3. You say the Geforce GPU destroys the adreno 320??? B.S!
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
i bett you the one x+ spanks the s4 in gaming any day, and you know what else is funny with sense being sooo bloated up the benchmarks are about the same as the nexus 4 i bett you the one x+ will be faster than the nexus 4 cm10 vs cm10
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
yeah right....
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
since you know so much about phones why dont you show your proof.

a video game tells the true performance of any game rigg computer, so in theorys phones will do the same and we all know nvidia cpus/gpus revolve around games. lol next your gonna tell my your iphone 5 is the best ever right :D

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[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
Lol I love it. You know I probably had more android phones the past 6 months than you ever had. But that's not the point here. Again like I said before, benchmarks aren't everything, and it is a known fact that the snapdragon S4 pro is a better SoC than the Tegra 3, much better in fact. But since you like benchmarks, go to anandtech.com and see the benchmarks comparison between both SoC and then come back here.

http://www.extremetech.com/computin...dragon-s4-eats-tegra-and-exynos-for-breakfast

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
the other thing you have to think about is maybe nvidia is using better drivers and possibly the higher over clock on the cpu and gpu, also the nvidia has a 5 core for low power to do stuff in the background only reason for me to think the S4 is better is because its a 28NM technology now but if you don't have great drivers than the hardware doesn't matter and im looking at the the benchmarks and its demonstration the OLD one x not the New One X+PLUS the new One x+ is 67% Faster than the old One x....

BTW you should NOTE the Transformer benchmark with the old nvidia chip which is the t33 processor, the one x plus uses the new ap37 which is 67% FASTER AGAIN.
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
Apparently you didn't get the point I was making, BENCHMARKS AREN'T EVERYTHING!!! The ap37 has a higher clocked CPU and a higher clocked GPU, but it's the exact same processor as the one in the One X, just over clocked. It's still is based on 40 nm. Meaning someone with a One X can overclock their CPU when rooted and use a kernel that overclocks the GPU and BAM, you get your One X+. Now I don't wanna sound negative here, I like the One X+ design and screen and overall it is a great phone. But someone was trying to say that the Tegra 3 is better than the S4 pro... no it's not.
[HTC One X+] 001358:
My bad on the storage, I was a bit distracted by something at the moment. Yes there are faster updates, and there is a larger Dev community, but the HOX+ will deliver a more pleasing overall experience. I hear the N4 feels edgy and wide because of its glass back. The curved back on HOX+ will give you no problems there. Sometimes buying a phone is about the usability, not the ability to have the latest software.
[HTC One X+] alizawi:
I'll make this short and sweet... first point, iphone 5 is a waste of money and raw materials (just had to say that)...

Nexus 4 and one x+ will pretty much have the same overall performance on a day-to-day basis.. BUT, the Nexus 4 glass back WILL break, It's guaranteed. My friend got his a few days ago, the damn thing cracked as hi put it on the table (others had it break while in their pockets- read the N4 forums)

That alone is enough for me to stick with HOX+ without thinking twice...(in addition to other factors related to build quality and how thin it is)
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
i Highly doubt that is true you don't call something %67 faster by giving it .3ghz of a overclock really cmon dude its a re-layout. and the smaller NM means that the chip is more power efficient. just because they didn't change the nm size doesn't mean that its the same chip they also added on the 5th core i believe. and yes benchmarks doesn't mean anything but it shows you a range of how fast somthing is atlease gives you a idea of how fast the phone is its a same thing as a dyno on a car just because one has more horsepower than the other doesn't mean the other car is faster threes allot of factors to it, this whole thing is about which phone will play the games better and the nvidia is clearly better Just saying if you play Dead trigger on the One x+ you get the best graphics performance while on the s4 pro you get moderate graphics

Just did some benchmarks compare mine to these guys my phone is 100% stock I have 90+ apps installed no cache wiped

http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-s4-pro-vs-exynos-4412-benchmarks-127274/

Slower than s4

Faster than s4

Faster than s4

Faster than s4

Slower than s4 but faster than note 2
[HTC One X+] MMoodyB:
The reason for that is because Madfinger Games appear to only allow the UltraHigh settings when a Tegra 3 gpu is detected.

Which is no doubt due to a deal with Nvidia because even an Adreno 220 gpu, which was in my old HTC Sensation, can run Dead Trigger with the UltraHigh gfx settings by editing an .xml file - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1964793

Just because a game look better thanks to a deal between Nvidia & the developer doesn't make the gpu more powerful.

The Tegra 3 gpu in the One X+ just isn't as quick as the Adreno 320 in the S4Pro chipset.

These scores from the Engadget review of the Droid DNA in GLBenchmark, which is all about the gpu, prove it :

GLBenchmark 2.5 1080p Egypt Offscreen (fps)

Droid DNA - 31

Galaxy Note II - 17

Optimus G - 31

One X+ - 12
[HTC One X+] jayeshrc:
they were comparing the AT&T one x which had the dual core Qualcomm MSM8960 with the nvidia tegra 3 ap37 when they said its 67% faster.
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
My friend, the adreno 320 is better than the Tegra 3 GeForce GPU. Once again, benchmarks aren't everything. Proof is the nexus 4, droid DNA and Optimus G all use the snapdragon S4 pro, but the nexus 4 in quadrant for example, only scores in the 4000s while the other two make it to 8000 sometimes. Stock android has never been optimized for benchmarks, same thing with the galaxy nexus last year. As far as the Tegra 3 on the One X+, again it is the EXACT SAME processor than the one in the One X but just with an over clocked CPU and GPU proof is here ( read the second paragraph where they mention it):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6348/...official-17-ghz-ap37-tegra-3-64-gb-of-storage

you have to understand, naming the processor ap37 vs ap33 is for marketing purposes that's all. On the other hand the dual core snapdragon S4 and the snapdragon pro have differences, the pro has the 320 adreno GPU that smokes anything on the market right now. On a day to day usage, you're right both phones will perform similarly, but the S4 pro is more efficient, has more raw processing power and won't be left to dust once the A15 processors come out next year. It received praises from all the tech people cause it really is powerful.

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You know I prefer buying the nexus 4 which is almost half the price of the One X+ and then buy a 15$ case for it and you're good to go, problem solved! Let see what happens to the One X+ when HTC releases its new flagship at MWC in February, the nexus will be relevant for another 2 years guarantee.
[HTC One X+] alizawi:
I already hate cases... first coz they make the phone bulky, plus, i like to show the natural appeal of the phone..nexus 4 is already thick, so that makes things worse.. HOX+ doesn't need a case, and looks and feels incredible..

at least 3 people actually went online and bought the HOX+ immediately after grabbing my phone for a couple of mins..it's that convincing..

having tested both myself, and being a HUGE nexus and pure google fan (owned nexus s and galaxy nexus), It took a lot for me to make this switch, and for a good reason! I usually change phones every 1.5 to 2 years, so for my purpose, this is the best choice out there to last me this period.
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Alright guys looks like everyone was wrong it's not based off a t33 processor

The phone is acutely a t35 with a speed bump. I knew it wasn't a t33 because they could not get it to work with lte so it makes sense they used a new chip

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/09/tegra-t37ap37-pops-up-on-the-nvidia-roadmaps/

and than pretty much says its a tegra 4 processor not a tegra 3 or a tegra 3+ since it is a 28nm chip which explains the battery life is so good.

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
[HTC One X+] kirdroid:
Next version of android in may :)
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
From what i gathered is this phone is a Tegra 3+ that uses the t35 so its almost a hybrid of the new tegra 4 without the smaller 28nm which we will see in the tegra 4

http://vr-zone.com/mwc/mwc-2012-nvidia-samples-tegra-3--tegra-4-to-oem-partners/15014.html
[HTC One X+] pure.noob:
So which phone do you have close attention to and which one are you getting?

I hate the fact that nexus 4 is fully sold out. But they shipped another round of phone less than 24hours ago.
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
A site called semiaccurate? LMAO? here friend once again

http://vr-zone.com/articles/tegra-3...ed-ap40-in-retail-before-years-end/15673.html

And the most accurate site for all that info

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6348/...official-17-ghz-ap37-tegra-3-64-gb-of-storage
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Dude really read about the ap35 which is a ap37 your source is incorrect the ap33 would not work with lte. Typical iPhone owner just assumes, nvidia hasn't updated the processor maps which is why it's not clear what a ap37 is.
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
So anandtech is wrong and you're right?
[HTC One X+] caedanne:
I didn't see in this 2 websites any Benchmark with the One X or One X+ tegra3 version... I see only dual-core... version I'm wrong?
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
I researched for a few hours im positive it a ap35, and most articles companies are just copy and paste this isn't the first time this has happend what we really need is a map from nvidia showing there new processor of what a ap35 truly is
[HTC One X+] barondebxl:
It wasn't for benchmarks, just to show that the Tegra 3 in the One X and One X+ are the same, just the One X+ has an overclocked CPU and GPU.

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Every android head knows anandtech is probably one of the most reliable site when it comes to benchmarks, CPU and GPU info. Just saying. Either way as long as you're happy with your One X+ that's what matters no?
[HTC One X+] caedanne:
I don't think so about the same processor but...
[HTC One X+] robstunner:
Anyone else still on the fence? I sure am!
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
On which part?
[HTC One X+] robstunner:
X+ vs. N4
[HTC One X+] boe323:
Haha, me to i upgraded last wek from onex to onex+, i had to get in touch with google support so they could make the googleplay website(install apps fro the web) work with the hox+, it wouldnt show up in list of devices, but now everythings perfect yay, one snag, can someone go the test app *#*#3424#*#* and test there screen to see it it registers touches straight away or onlt after the next touch, like when you touch the screen it wont show in that spot untill you touch the screen again, this needs fixing asap.
[HTC One X+] slimdizzy:
After having this one x+ plus now for over a month and being a nexus guy usually. I will be going back to nexus land as there is no community here. This phone is a dead horse. Nobody is buying it a it will be totally done when SGS4 comes out. No roms. No devs. Get the nexus. LTE isn't that amazing. 64gb of nandroid is all I have used the space for. The lack of device seperation in the forums is true of the lack of popularity of this phone. The only reason I have kept this phone this long is how loud it is for music over a nexus.
[HTC One X+] zounduser:
Well, i actually am on the DNA now. Its being shipped to HTC for a screen replacement!! It got super hot while charging, i unplugged it and stepped outside for a smoke, well its freezing here so, it had to have been the degrees. But i actually heard, and felt it crack!!!! HTC is replacing it for free.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X+] Rickala:
The HOX+ has a Bluetooth volume issues on calls( over modulated) , if that matters to you. Otherwise, I love it. best phone I've ever had, and I had all of the top guns. Easily bests them all to date..
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Pretty funny you say this when Adam already said a LG nexus is a pos

Good luck with that pos
[HTC One X+] Fidelio_o:
I am actually coming from a Nexus 4 to the HTC One x+, Just my personal preference I like the One X better for a couple reasons. One while I loved the look of the Nexus 4, I was literally scare ****less of having it fall. It is so delicate. Like it was constantly in the back of my mind. (I dont like cases on my phones) you may not worry about this. Two the screen saturation sucked stock. Unless you were running faux kernel which allowed you to mess with the colors, the screen just looked so bland. Three the 16GB of space is a huge let down, I actually store my music and videos on my phone and found my self worried i would use it up. 4th the camera is not as impressive as the HTC one X, (Photosphere is pretty cool tho) 5 i found myself missing LTE, while browsing the web and trying to watch videos, etc. Im in NYC and on ATT so i understand that they are pretty much getting hammered out here. The fact that the one X in my opinion provides better value for me and my needs just pulled me to it. I love the Display, I love the Camera, LTE, and the 64Gb. I will say that the Nexus 4 was definetly faster, felt smoother, but it really is negligible. I feel once we get some custom kernels running the devs will be able to match it. One more annoyance witht the Nexus 4 for me atleast, the screen is more like 4.5 inches not 4.7 because of the on screen buttons. Didnt like that.
[HTC One X+] rashad1:
I agree with all the points you made. The Nexus's biggest disappointments were the camera, poor screen saturation, odd aspect ratio, glass backing, although I could live with 16gb since I had the GSM Galaxy Nexus for almost a year. As long as the One X+ gets CM 10.1, which hopefully brings better battery life and bettery gaming performance, I'll be happy.
[HTC One X+] zaki67:
Is the battery life on the one x plus better than the nexus 4? I have the n4 and I want a replacement becuse of horrid battery life .
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
What is your average battery life on n4

I get about 10-20 hours with 3-5 hours of screen time
[HTC One X+] davidsteele1975:
I'd be happy enough with that... but I'm also curious as to your life with the One X+..

My upgrade is tomorrow. ;)
[HTC One X+] zaki67:
I am getting about 7 hours with 1.5 hour screen. I have 3 emails on push. I was happier with the battery life of the one x and the s3.
[HTC One X+] davidsteele1975:
I'd be less happy with that! I find the S III battery life to be commendable, so too is the HTC One V. Nothing else I've used from 2012 has been so great (these two devices are quite opposite, too). One X+ benchmarks for battery life ahead of the S III but real world comparisons are much more useful.
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
i just got rid of my gs3 and the one x+ battery is much better.
[HTC One X+] Fidelio_o:
Battery while at home on wifi and have great service is better on the HTC one x+, When im at work where my service sucks, the Nexus is much better, but the reason for this is because the Nexus 4 lets me switch to 2g service at all times, which I havent figured out how to do this on the one x+
[HTC One X+] baste07:
lMHO if you already have ONE X+ there is no reason to get the Nexus 4
[HTC One X+] davidsteele1975:
True; I have the S III and I've no reason to move to the One X+ or Nexus 4, but since when do I need a reason to move device..? ;) #geek

Currently, I quite often run with no data or WiFi running. That's partially because where I work, the signal is indifferent and when there's a good signal, data speed varies from poor to terrible for both the modem and WiFi. That essentially stops power saving technologies from working; there's no race to idle, the smartphone is greedily sucking at the data connection but very little is coming through. Not all handsets have decent idle power consumption.

But anyway. I want the Nexus 4 because it's geeky, but the One X+ because it's more sensible. And I'm using the S III, so really, I'm whining like a spoilt brat! ;)

My thoughts on things like battery management is that the issues people are experiencing with the Nexus 4 should be resolved quicker with this device than any experienced with the One X+; updates appear to be released much quicker for the Nexus devices, although when the original One X was released, the .28 update (from memory) wasn't very long in coming and made a big difference to battery life. I get that the S4 Pro should use less juice than the Tegra 3, but for light duties, processor power consumption won't make that much of a difference. They're probably one or perhaps two days to a charge for me. A few taps on screen brightness will negate any savings through the 28nm / companion core stuff under the skin, right..?

Things like radio power efficiency, which must be harder to influence through software, feels more important, but at the moment if the Nexus 4's processor is being worked harder than it should be, well it's impossible to differentiate between what's using the energy.
[HTC One X+] i9100g user:
N4 is has a better GPU, and is the fastest android phone I have ever used(used hox) tho battery is not very good for normal user. Haven't used hox+ though. And of course n4 has got vannila android :fastest updates.

But it's no use to switch between n4 and hox+ as they are quite the same unless you have some big issue or like something specifically from one of them (for eg vanilla android on n4)

sent from my gs3 GT i 9300

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stock jb 4.1.x , siyah kernel1.86,dual boot

1st Rom stock jb 4.1.x

2nd Rom cm10.x 4.1.2 with 4.2apps
[HTC One X+] sensesamurai:
That link has it stacked against the one x tegra 3 not the one x+ iteration