yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Sweet! that tasker condition is pretty much all we need.

I received some NFC tags on Friday and was messing around with them. one thing I was trying was to have one tag at the bottom of the dock and another at the top, so when I slide it out the top, it passes along that one, but when I place the phone in, it only sees the first one.

There's a lot of interference? I guess? with NFC and wireless charging.. Not really interference per-say, but the fact that the tag gets powered up by the wireless charger instead of the phone, means there's a lot of times where the NFC function won't fire, because the tag has already gone "hot" from the Qi charger turning on.. gotta wait for the dock to turn green again, signalling that it's no longer sending power to the area, and you can try to scan again.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] creekflood:
Hmmm interesting thought. Likely this method would lead to the dreaded, sometimes it works and others it doesn't. I assume you are aware of attaching an exit task to a condition. So in this case, an event would fire after the phone disconnects from the charger. However, I could see this event firing erroneously unless the charger is very consistent with its connection.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] nyijedi:
2 things:

1) Try NFC Task Launcher. It's free and it's great. It lets you assign two different functions (or sets of functions) to an NFC tag, and it will alternate between implementing these two sets of functions every time the phone reads the tag. For example, I have one tag on my dock in my car with two sets of functions - one called "Enter Car" and the other called "Leave Car." Also, when docked, I leave the screen on the entire time. When I'm ready to leave the car, I just turn the screen off and then back on - this causes the phone to read the NFC tag again and implement the "leave car" function. Hope this makes sense.

2) I also noticed that NFC tags don't appear to play nice when on a wireless charging dock. I've tried it on my Energizer Qi charging mat and had hit-or-miss results (mostly miss).
[Nexus 4 Accessories] naynada:
Just an update - Moon eventually replied and said the OwlPad should be able to charge up to 95%. He's going to send a new one.

Also, has anyone received shipment information for the latest CarPad yet?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
No. I'm frantically waiting for some sort of notification that it's shipping.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] facetubespam:
Do you have to send back the old one first?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] strongergravity:
Very true. NFC doesn't play well with metal either. I'd put a sticker on a toolbox & a metal stand - Nada. Also, I did the Touchstone mod to my Gnex and I tried a sticker on the touchstone with no success, either.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
You can get "on metal" ones to solve that problem. As you suggested it might be the problem of the tags being hit and miss as the metal coil would only be a few millimetres under the plastic.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] narcopolypse:
Hey everybody. Long time, no post :p

I've been ridiculously busy lately but I have been keeping in contact with Moon. He's been giving me the run around that it sounds like everybody else has been getting. I'm still waiting on my 3rd revised units (the supposed final version) to test before I make any batch orders. I know some of you have ordered straight from Moon and I'm not butt hurt about it but I will still contact everyone on my list when I do make the first order. I haven't forgotten about you. I just haven't been anywhere near a computer lately.

And regarding the NFC tags, I have placed a Samsung TecTile right in the middle of my CarPad and my Nexus reliably reads it every time I put it in the dock.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
I ordered a few of these to try. I've been charged for the order but he said he would ship on the 12th, and send tracking information. I asked for that info, he said he had forgotten to ship and promised get me the info yesterday. He hasn't responded to my latest two e-mails. Sure, it's not the end of the world to ship a couple of days later than expected- but I've already paid (paypal) and knowing international shipping timelines, it doesn't give me a whole lot of time to file a claim if he doesn't deliver. It's one thing to deal with that kind of communication from an individual selling something, but as a business it gives me pause. I'd at the very least expect proactive updates if there are delays.

Sorry... I'm just venting and hoping someone will respond and convince me that I'm being too impatient and he has delivered in the past- I'm getting mixed reviews from this thread.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
moon is very bad with emails, he will reply fast sometimes and then just stop altogether. I wouldnt worry too much since you have 45 days so if you dont get a tracking number or shipping confirmation then file a claim before that.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Well it is Chinese New Years from 2/10-2/16, really for 2 weeks lol, I think he's in Korea, no?

EDIT: Just learned if he is Korean, they celebrate something similiar to CNY. So it's a MAJOR holiday over there.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
I thought of that (I have a fasttech.com order held up because of this) but the difference is they clearly stated they would be off for the holiday and set proper expectations. Moon said it would ship on a specific date, didn't send me the information when he said he would, and when I asked said he would and I would get the tracking number the next day. Still nothing. I am all about communication, I can be super patient, as long as I know what to expect. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kpjimmy:
No I got that, but the reason, for now, is that he is most likely not at work. But that's just my excuse lol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
i thought that he told lots of people here that he was going to send it out this week. Did he forget that this week is chinese new years? lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] naynada:
He did not ask me to send it back.

I haven't received any additional shipping information yet, so I'm assuming that he will send my replacement OwlPad along with my CarPad parcel.

Like the others have been saying, I'll probably have to follow him up again soon.

Hmmm, well KNY lasts 3 days - beginning Feb 10, so it should be over by now. Well, that's according to Wikipedia anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_New_Year
[Nexus 4 Accessories] acsooley:
I ordered on the 7th of February and sent moon a question 2 days ago. Below is the response :

-------------------------

Owing to several point of upgrade activities, we would like to ship out from Monday next week.

We are sorry for late shipping but we do our best for upgrading the engine of Car charger as can as possible before ship out.

Thank you so much

Moon

-----------------

Adam
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
I got a similar response.

Monday is the best case, I guess.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] diablonyc2:
That is promising news .... plus I hope the car-charger is upgraded....the one I received with my unity blew after a few tries. I replaced the fuse and it still dose not work. So now I have a pricey phone holder :)

Moon has generally been good with responding. Hopefully we get the updated product soon! :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
i was emailing him since dec to jan and he was just as bad with emails then. He is just erratic with them...to be fair maybe there are too many for him to response to.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] naynada:
I got a similar response too, strangely he also mentioned something about the HTC DNA :S must be swamped...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpdt:
From Moonsoo

"Hi,

Sorry for late shipping and we will send you earlier next week.

We took a time to find a optimal solution for Nexus 4 before ship out as can as possible.

Thanks

Moon"
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
Finally mine is sent out.. Its on its way with tracking. Ordered Feb. First.

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
Should I pester him also? I'm pretty sure the guy is swamped with "Where is my order?! Derp derp derpette derpitty derp! <angry face/>".
[Nexus 4 Accessories] YasooKhuul:
Ordered on 29. of January but no shipping confirmation till now. I'll wait a few days till asking about the current status.

EDIT

A few minutes later and just received my shipping confirmation :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
Oohh, I'm standing by for my confirmation any minute now.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] frazzle121180:
Any UK guys got one? I'm tempted but wondering if customs will hammer me for it?

Cheers
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
i ordered on jan 24th but no shipment confirmation yet...

Edit: You guys that got your order shipped, did you buy both the carpad and owlpad?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] irishtexmex:
I really want to convince myself to buy this charger, but I can't help but think that it's useless for people who usually drive 15-20 minutes on average.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpdt:
Mine shipped out today with Express Mail International via the USPS.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
I ordered mine on Feb 5th. Still no e-mail shipment confirmation. I just ordered the CarPad itself and not the suction mount. I already have the LG Qi charge pad at home, but I'm thinking of getting the official N4 Qi charge orb for work. I already have a ProClipUSA car mount, and I returned the matching N4 phone mount, because I purchased a socket adapter that will attach to the ProClipUSA car mount which I can then connect the CarPad via the socket. And then BINGO! I can have it mounted exactly where I want my phone to be and not have to use a suction or some add gizmo to attach it to my car.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] naynada:
For the record, mine shipped out last night. Ordered CarPad and OwlPad on 31 January.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
It sounds like he is shipping them in order that the Orders came in. I hope that's true.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
moon said that the first shipment is for people that order both the carpad and owlpad. People that just ordered the carpad will get theirs shipped out later this week or next week.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] happybana:
...am I dreaming?

I already felt like I was in some sort of futuristic sci-fi just from my whole family having adopted tablets, phablets, and android phones...But inductive charging making it's way back around after decades of novelty status is just superb. I am buying the OwlPad+CarPad as soon as I get paid Friday. Thanks for the great informative thread! Now if someone would come up with a good wireless laptop charger...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
Moon just sent me a email that he will ship mine out today.

Carpad/G and a "new" version of Owlpad desktop charger that hopefully fixes my "stops at 88%" charging issue.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] PMentior:
I ordered just the carpad and mine is being delivered today. In fact was just missed by USPS so I have to go pick it up at the post office in a little bit.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
I too ordered the CarPad only. Did you get a shipment notice? If so, when? And when exactly did you order it?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jollyeskimo:
CarPad

- ordered Jan 30

- shipped Feb 19

- received Feb 21
[Nexus 4 Accessories] PMentior:
Ordered Jan 21

Shipment Notice Feb 19
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BK553:
Ordered Feb 2nd, got mine today. In the US. Booyah! :)

Never got a shipping notice, so it was a nice surprise.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] impruv:
Can anyone tell me what their email from moon looked like? Im not sure if he massed sent out a generic email or I could be receiving the wrong products.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] KevBri:
almost here!

I ordered the Car Pad only on Feb. 4th. I got a shipping notification Feb. 20th from Moon with a tracking number. It appears to have already arrived here in Los Angeles (that was fast!) and is currently sitting in customs. Hopefully it goes out for delivery today, the 22nd. If so, that would be amazing. I wasn't expecting 2-day int'l shipping!

EDIT: Didn't receive it today (Friday) after all. It is still sitting in customs according to the tracking. Hopefully customs doesn't hold on to it forever and I get it by Monday or Tuesday.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
He must have picked SOME shipping method... mine made it from Korea to Vancouver BC, to Ontario in ONE DAY. It's currently at my local mail processing plant- likely delivered Monday or Tuesday.

CRAZY!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] acsooley:
Pictures / video? Anyone who has received this
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dasilvetz:
I wonder if there's a way to mod this to fit on a Mountek mount..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] gotzaDroid:
Just ordered one too. Now I need to decide if I want to get the cigarette adaptor mount or the cup holder mount for my car. My lighter hole is at the bottom of my radio and my cup holders are built into my center console. Hmmm....
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
if you using it for nav. having it low on the windshield is better imo since you wont have to look away from the road.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
I picked up a vent mount as I'll be using it for INGRESS so want it to be within reach :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] happybana:
Ordered! Ahhhhh so excited.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] gotzaDroid:
It'll be mainly used as a music player. I just like the fact I don't have to plug in the USB cord and it'll be easier to change songs
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
received my replacement owlpad + carpad charger.

testing the carpad with my tpu case now to see if any difference in charging rates with the old charger.

I notice that they have included a transparent plastic spacer with the carpad charger? no instructions on when to use that.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
You are supposed to use it with the Nexus to better line up the charging coils - new instructions on the website:

http://owlpad.net/

according to the pics you should have it 8mm off the base which the spacer should help you achieve this.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
I just received my CarPad from USPS about 10-15 minutes ago!!! I never received an email that it ever shipped! I was pleasantly surprised, especially that I was about to leave my house with keys and wallet in hand moments before I was about to leave. I quickly assembled my setup with my existing ProClipUSA car mount, ball socket adapter attached to the car mount, and then the CarPad. I'm tapping this in my car with my setup all attached and working perfectly!!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] KevBri:
Got it! In only 3 DAYS since my shipping notice! I assumed it would take weeks! Moon is awesome. Now to open it and give a shot!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rxnelson:
Any of you guys live where it is hot now? Post your outdoor temps if you can. I want to buy but afraid it isn't going to keep charging in the summer heat.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
It's about 70 degrees Fahrenheit right now and I drive a convertible, but Houston summer can easily get past 100. We'll see how it holds up. I usually leave my windows cracked a bit so the seats don't burn.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] irishtexmex:
Grew up in Houston & Austin and just wanted to say, if you don't already, buy a sunshade for your front window. It's easily worth a 10-15° difference.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] delrazor:
Just wanted to update a little.

Received my "final build" charger from Moon yesterday.

Just logged a 2 hour trip. Constant streaming spotify, GPS and nav running, screen on at 50% brightness.

Starting percentage 92%.

Ending percentage 94%

Never green lighted (used to do it when it got above 90%)

Temp never went hotter than 37°C on the phone and the cabin(ambient) temp was about 65-70°F.

Stock Nexus 4 on android 4.2.2

Happy with those results. :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] frigidazzi:
Hmm. What brightness does auto brightness usually use outside I wonder...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ibsonic:
Hmm my package is lost or something.. I need to wait again for Monday he is going to ship another one :( 1feb ordered.

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Ah that's the pits. Sorry brother :( At least u know a new ones coming out to u

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Gvr4-330:
Got mine yesterday. I haven't tested it extensively, but it seems to work pretty well.

My only complaint is the location of the power plug. With it coming out the bottom (and with a straight plug) it adds so much to the height, that it doesn't really fit properly in my car with the phone vertical.

Most of these type of things have the power plugged into the back so the cable has more flexibility in movement. I think I'm going to try relocating it. Will report back with how well it turned out.

Other than that, it holds my phone securely, charges it, and seems to be a nice simple design.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
Both the car pad and the home pad work with my nexus 4. They will not charge my QI modified S3- and it charges fine on the energizer charger. Any idea on why?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpdt:
I got mine in Saturday.

For a windshield mount it is great. Would be better if the power cable plugged into the side of the mount.

As for a charger it is awful. With only the 2G radio on I get a 10% charge while driving for thirty minutes.

With 3G, GPS, and Bluetooth radios on, I lose battery life. Very, very slowly, but still.

I do have the Ringke Hybrid Fusion Case on my phone. I have not tested the charging ability with the case off, and I'm not going to.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] frigidazzi:
This is exactly what I was afraid of :/. Thanks for the input.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] irishtexmex:
Me too. Wonderful for people looking to not lose a charge, but not that useful for people needing to go from 8% battery to 20-30% while they drive out to somewhere on a Friday night.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
no charger will be able to do charge that fast with gps on...if this charger is indeed charging at the rates posted here (6-700mh) then it's as fast as most micro usb chargers. I havent seen a car charger able to output more than 7-800mh to the nexus 4.

it's been tested that having a case will slow your charge rate...this is a limit of the technology not the charger's fault.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] bingunginter:
yeah me too, I'm dissapointed, with gps + bluetooth streaming, the carpad can not keep charge while with regular usb cable can.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] YasooKhuul:
This could help a bit or?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130857296389?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648
[Nexus 4 Accessories] acsooley:
Got mine today. It was shipped on the 20th works awesome so far.

Sent from my Motorola 650e flip phone!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] irishtexmex:
I know, I was using exaggeration to illustrate my point.

Is there a way to find out which car chargers can output how much mh, or does that rely on people testing each one out and posting their logs?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] frigidazzi:
I don't know the exact charge my phone is getting, but every day I drive 50 minutes to and from work. Using my nexus one car adapter still I stream Pandora, google navigation and stream it Bluetooth to my car with screen always on with auto brightness. I go from 70s percent to 90s or 100 by the time I get there.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] neotekz:
what car charger are you using? ive never heard of any car charger that can do this, ill be interested if anyone can confirm. The charge speed you are claiming is almost as fast as the AC charger with screen off and nothing on. It takes me about 2.5-3 hours to fully charge my nexus 4 with the stock ac adapter.

reviews are your best bet, never trust the claims from the manufactures even OEM will inflate their charge rates but not as much as some cheap chinese ones.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] frigidazzi:
I'm using the car charger that came with the nexus one car dock.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
Does anyone in Canada or US want a car pad? I am keeping one but returning the other (it didn't work with our other QI phone so I won't need it for our second vehicle). Before I ship it back to Korea figured I'd offer here.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] simics:
its been a few days since i got the updated chargers.

the new Owlpad is completely usable now. Able to charge all the way to 95% before stopping there.

as for the new Carpad, its charges better, but still not ideal.

Its less position sensitive compared to the old version. It still able to charge at a decent rate with a TPU case on. However I find my phone charges better if I use it at the lowest position without the spacer. Charging stops v frequently if I use the spacer (LED turns green)

with just streaming music over BT, it will slowly charge up.

with GPS + music, it will either stay at the same charge level or slowly go down.

One factor at play could be the hot temp over here. Ambient is 30-31C here and obviously higher in a car parked under the hot sun.

I have noticed the 70+% charged phone stop charging, probably due to high temp.

Phone will easily hit 40C and above if I do GPS+BT music + charging all at the same time.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
Charged my phone overnight on the home pad and it didn't make it above 60%. Slow charger. But it sounds like my experience isn't typical?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Have you tried with and without the spacer? The case may change the vertical position plus as someone else has listed it might work better without spacer.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tbonepat11:
I had the exact same experience last night. Would not go above 60% and randomly throughout the night it just wasn't charging much at all.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leyton01:
Are these the new Owlpads that were sent out in the last few days?

On that same topic -

I ordered the Owlpad and CarPad originally and the Owlpad shipped first - it was mentioned here the Owlpad had problems so I emailed Moon and he sent another when the Carpad was sent out, saying it was a "new version". I am not sure what is "new" about them as the version number, model number etc are all the same? Other people find that as well?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
Visual

1- battery was dead (3%) put it on the owl pad I think it was around 1am.

2- I woke up at 6:30 am with the battery in the mid 40's (worse that I remembered). The dip is my checking my e-mails while walking downstairs.

3- The spike is putting it on the energizer charger- which actually charges it.

4- On the autopad. Using ingress it's at a slow negative, not neutral or positive.

I'm not thrilled with these results. They need more power. Also the charger for the owlpad is obnoxious. It's a UK charger with a US adapter you plug it into, I'd much prefer a micro-usb or at least a dedicated US plug. For a device designed to essentially make the charging process cooler/less cumbersome. It's a pretty big fail.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tbonepat11:
Yup it was the newest one that came out after a lengthy delay. My car version seems to work fine. Anyone else have issue with the basic owlpad charger?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Antebios:
I don't know what people are doing, but my CarPad is working like a champ. I'm not using the spacer. Every time I setup my Android phone for the first time I always turn off Browser sync. It eats battery like it's starving. Make sure you aren't having sync problems first. When using my CarPad I have my screen on, music playing, and it's still charging upwards.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tbonepat11:
The issue we are having is not with the car-pad it is with the basic desktop owlpad charger. It seems to charge incredibly slow. I want to echo the wall-adapter that sticks out about 3 inches from the wall!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] topanga:
exactly.

And I'm doing apples to apples comparison- I use two different Qi chargers and get dramatically different results. And the OWL one doesn't charge one of our phones at all.

Sorry but this product just isn't ready to be sold. Not to mention it's NOT cheap.

The Carpad I'm undecided on. I'm going to do some more testing. It's unique enough that I want to give it a fair shot before I decide one way or the other but so far it's not as thrilling as I expected it to be.