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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JAG50:
Installed buterlicious last night and saw immediate lag reduction. It also used less battery during night (5%). Unfortunately, this morning, S3 began to reboot back to back and ktweaker wouldn't open. I used Rom Toolbox to change governor back to ktonsevative and reboots stopped. I then force stopped

and cleared data and reinstalled ktweaker and it began working again.

Just sad the settings you shared wouldn't play nice with my phone. They are indeed temperamental.

UPDATE: I manually changed the ktoonsevative settings in buterlicious to my settings file and phone began to reboot immediately. So, there is definitely a setting(s) that is not compatible with either my ROM (MOAR) or cross breeder.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] haoleflip:
I have crossbreeder, but I am on Goodness ROM. I too tried the butterlicious settings last night, but I have been having no issues. The only time my phone started rebooting is because I got a little testy and I tried to up the OC back to 1512, but my phone obviously didn't like that lol. I have kept it the way it is and it's nice, smooth and stable so far!

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//GOODNESS Reborn v10.0.3 [MD4]

//KT747 [MD4] kernel w/ Crossbreeder
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ryandubbz:
I'm running new butterlicious under volted -125 across the board without any issues
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mcluvin1065:
Guys, here is the screenies i promised. I unplugged my phone at around 7am. Its been 5 hours. Here are my results.

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B7l8OLFFHxGLRE5kcXJlVUFYQzA/edit

Sent from my rooted, suited, and booted s3, living the dual core life, know dat.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
For you guys having problems the settings are undervolted so try to bump all voltages up by 25. Not sure what was meant by switching to ktoonservative as all my settings use it. Also make sure to reboot after applying any settings file.

[MENTION=1754759]prboy1969[/MENTION] yes undervolted some. Min at 850 max at 1125.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Yes I saw that ;) . Had a Brain Spasm. But I remembered I could just open it up in ++ and change the settings. Raised the voltages 20 across the board, just as a jump off point.

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I take it you have a " FAST " processor ?

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Something still seems to be off. What are your Min /Max settings ? I still see a lot of stuff going on in the Notification Bar. At this point I would lean toward doing a Fresh Flash ( meaning a Full Wipe ) . Flash the Kernel. Rename the files, and set up Ktweaker ( or use TK Mod to do all of this ) . Then just let it run, and settle for a day without adding any apps. Then compare the Battery life. If all is well add apps one, or a few at a time keeping track of what's being added. That would help to narrow down the issue.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] styles420:
Your time without signal is over three hours - if your phone was actively trying to find a connection that entire time, then I applaud your battery for not being dead yet, lol

Edit: I also meant to ask what screen brightness setting you use...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JAG50:
Followed your advice and increased voltages. Keeping my fingers crossed.

UPDATE: No reboots. now let's see how well it handles battery consumption with higher voltages.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Spider_Pig27:
Hi, I am currently on Carbon w/ Halo w/ the latest ktoonz. What are the best options for AOSP based rom's? Thanks in advanced

I'm looking mostly for better battery life.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
[MENTION=4397308]mcluvin1065[/MENTION] i agree with everything styles was asking. If you are on wifi might as well turn off data. also, The lowest freq in any pic i saw was 918 mhz. might want to check on you min frequency. Other than the lowest frequency and data, I honestly don't see anything wonky about your bbs pics.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Maxamillion:
What might be the cause of my phone becoming frozen all of a sudden ? It doesn't sense any touch input and only allows me to turn the screen on and off but it stays frozen. This keeps on happening to me and I have tried many setups including default. I am running stockorama v2 (4.1.2 touchwiz ROM) alongside crossbreeder.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mcluvin1065:
My lowest screen brightness is 25 percent. Thats at home and everywhere else during the day. My wifi is out so ive been on 3g as of yesterday as well as when the pictures were taken...

Sent from my rooted, suited, and booted s3, living the dual core life, know dat.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Awesome! Shouldn't make much difference battery wise

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Search for butterlicious for aosp in this here lovely thread. Those settings have been getting rave reviews ;)

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What are your min/max cpu settings? If your min is 918 thats the problem.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] hereignssupreme:
So this has been my best day so far on stock battery (MOAR), using Gman-MW settings with +moderate usage. This is good right? Will be switching to Butterlicious for tomorrow though just to see which gives me better results.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JAG50:
iamikon,

As mentioned previously, after increasing voltages, the rebooting problem went away. Unfortunately, it's consuming more battery. Last night it ate 18% of the battery. My ktweaker settings only use 5-8 % at worst. I checked cpu spy and it does show it went into deep sleep, so I am not sure where/what ate the battery. Battery Monitor showed 29.8% system usage and 26 minutes of wake time. I can post the wakelot list is you wish.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] styles420:
This might seem counterintuitive, but if you're still under volted a bit then try raising the voltages more, in fact try stock for now...

While it seems logical to assume that higher voltage inherently means higher drain, the equation isn't necessarily that simple. You've seen how an aggressive UV can cause hiccups and reboots - what if a more conservative UV is still causing problems that aren't as obvious as a reboot? You might not be able to see any direct evidence, but something could be choking and stuttering just enough to make it take longer than it should due to having to constantly regroup... Imagine a road trip, where instead of just driving straight to your destination, you have to stop every five miles to reconnect a damaged hose or something. Sure, the car isn't blowing up and ending the trip prematurely, but it isn't getting you to point B as efficiently as it could, either.

I run stock voltages and still manage more than 24 hours of life with 3 - 5 hours of screen on time, and that's on the stock battery - I think the benefits of UV are either entirely or partially placebo due to the apparent logic of "less volts, less drain," but it seems to cause more problems than its worth for so many users :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
You sir are a boss. What a wonderful explanation. Though my reasoning for uv is more heat/habit :)

[MENTION=3925353]JAG50[/MENTION] do as styles suggest and raise the voltages at least another 25. Also in ktoonservative you can turn boost turns on second core to 0 to turn it off. (may effect performance some)

General note I don't use touchwiz much so they get less testing. So notes like this are helpful for me to put out generally usable settings for all.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
I definitely agree. But I will add that it is also in my experiences Device dependant. For example, on my Wife's SGS3 I can UV -100 easily ( fast processor ) . But the only benefit is that it runs cooler. It does not seem to impact Battery life positively, or negatively. On my SGS3 UV'ing as little as -25 will improve Battery life. While also making it run cooler. My buddies device will run cooler with any UV' ing. But will not see any improvement in battery life till it's UV' d -50, or more. I know that how the device is used is also a variable. I'm just sharing my findings :) .
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
This is also very true. Voltages are where it really shows how different devices are. I can uv 75 no problem but id like my settings to benefit as many peiple as possible. It seems odd to me though that butterlicious + touchwiz would have less battery life than butterlicious + aosp. I am still on tw though testing new moar so i will try to get them stabalized. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JoeFCaputo113:
Just want to say to the creators of this thread.. this is one of my favorite threads here in the Sprint GS3 forum. Awesome post, awesome info, and very well organized. Thanks guys for this hard work and making my device run smooth as butter! That is all, and once again thanks a bunch! :good:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Iamikon so far butterliciousTW is running great for me. Super Quick, and extremely responsive. Will report back later with Battery life.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ryandubbz:
I like his settings very much too very responsive and pretty good battery life
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Thank you very much TEAM KERNILIZERS for all the hard, dedicated work and rewarding the users with your masterpieces for absolutely NO REASON. It's a huge honor in supporting you guys and I will forever continue to.

On a second note, I finally applied the ButterliciousTW settings and I must say it has provided me an extremely smooth UI and outstanding battery life! Thank you iamikon!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] shinesthru:
Group hug?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Now we are getting in to nerd land :: rubs hands together:: :D:D:

So... let's begin.

In the pc world we have things like clock speeds, latency, read speed, bus speeds and things of this nature. Right now im going to talk about over clocking a processor, whether it's a gpu I or a cpu. When we over clock these devices, meaning make them go faster than originally rated by the manufacturer using software of any kind, these devices will also work harder. The faster the clock speed the hotter the component gets and the shorter it's life span is due to thermal stresses. Hence our manufacturer rating of speeds.

There are two ways to combat heat, heat is the main enemy in any high powered system (do a YouTube search of running a cpu with no heart sink). Add more cooling via more hardware and lower voltages applied to the component. Adding more cooling hardware is the preferred method. This is the best way because now that the component is working faster at the same temperatures it was at before on stock clock speeds it is, in terms of math, working LESS. This applies to ram, video card, cpu's and the like.

Typically, as you raise clock speeds you also have to RAISE voltages in order to keep it stable. There are exceptions like in a VERY minor over clock you can actually lower voltages. The trade off here is that with the larger cooling equipment and the faster clock speeds the processor will spend less time at peak load and return to idle faster. If set up correctly you can actually draw less cumulative power using higher voltages. This is assuming temperatures are the same for both scenarios of stock clock and over clock. BUT, more power applied equals more heat. Now, as we raise clock speeds and raise our voltage, we try to be on the edge of not enough. Because what does more power mean? More heat. And what does more heat mean? Less component life. Not only that but the components have a "healthy" voltage band due to tolerances in its manufacture so we don't want to exceed that.

Now, we do not have the option of installing more hardware to cool our devices so all we can do is lower voltages. Lowering voltages will help keep the component cool because it is pulling less electrons. More power = more heat. BUT take that voltage to far and now the component doesn't have enough power to perform its job properly or efficiently, making it work HARDER and for a longer time as styles pointed out with his very good description.

What happens when a component works harder? It heats up. So we can actually have a reverse effect from our intended power savings.

The first quote here is right on. That's why we under volt. Heat. And above is an explanation about how it's caused, what it means, why we mitigateit, and how.

The second quote from styles420 is what i have come to realize and it's also my opinion.

The last quote sums up everything here. But each example he listed is a totally different outcome. I don't under volt anymore than ktweaker has it setup as because I never saw the benefit. If you read everything and made it to this line, well, i hope you enjoyed my nerd out.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JoeFCaputo113:
What are the settings? TouchWiz or AOSP?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] stas333:
so i have been messing with different kernel settings for a bit now. for some reason no setting (governor/scheduler combo) would work right. I would either get smoothness and performance but no battery life, or the opposite. So i thought it had something to do with deodexed MD4 rom since i have been having random freezes here and there. So i did a factory reset and installed the rom and kernel again. Same thing, i couldnt get a stable setting with the kernel. I did a factory reset again and installed the odexed MD4 rom with latest kernel. This time i got more smoothness out of the kernel, but it still wansnt fully smooth. Messing around with the settings, i think i finally found a setup that is smooth and efficient. interactive governor and cfq/bfq/row schedulers seems to make the phone very very smooth. after tinkering with bfq scheduler, and setting it up according to the first post, the phone seems to be smooth and i think i am finally happy. All windows, scrolling through the home screen, web pages, and such is super smooth and not laggy.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ryandubbz:
I believe he has both but I'm rocking the touchJizz one
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
I acknowledge the point being made and might I add I was actually quite ENTERTAINED while reading this well thought out passage. So what does that MEAN? lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
This is exactly the reason why this is one of my favorite threads ;). Nerds of the world Unite. Wait....we're on XDA. We already have :laugh: That's why it feels like home.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] styles420:
Bravo, Castle... Bravo... (I couldn't resist, lol) - I wanted to go into more detail about the intricate equation that we tweak when we mess with voltages and clock speeds, but I keep scrapping my attempts because I couldn't nail down an explanation that I felt was both clear and concise. You found the words I've been looking for :)

As a final note, sacrifices have been made in the name of miniaturization - old school electronics had a much larger threshold of tolerance, and could take a lot more abuse than their smaller modern counterparts. That meant that they had a lot more room to manipulate this complicated equation without ending up at the opposite extreme (and without burning up). And I'm talking about desktop computers - smart phones are even smaller and more precise ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Totally off topic but I just wanted to personally thank everyone here on XDA, especially those I've interacted with. I finally found the place where I belong! :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
I love you all :D best explanations I have seen in some time.

For whoever asked all my settings are for aosp and touchwiz sadly you have to search the thread for them as they are not in the box account.

--hinthintnudgenudge--
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] shekinahsmoke:
Bromances ensue. BTW re the box account, its extremely hard for me to get any of those setting to stick. :(

sent from the galaxy via tapping and talking
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
We undervolt mainly to protect the equipment. Secondary is battery savings. The problem with going too extreme in your undervolt is that the cpu will become unstable and make it work harder, which is counter productive and will have a reverse effect. Every piece of electronic equipment has tolerances, just as machine parts have tolerances. When we go outside those tolerances is when we see problems with efficiency. Problems with efficiency will lead to more battery drain and shorter life of the component. Notice how Ktoonsez put in the thermal protection? What happens when the thermal protection kicks in? Ktweaker limits clock speed. Slower clock speed means less heat generated. But slower clock speed also means it will take longer to complete it's task, which means it draws from the battery more.

Take home message:

Undervolting is fine to a point. Undervolting too much will cause a reverse effect on battery savings and could be detrimental to the health of the component.

Do I recommend it? I wouldn't say I recommend it but I also wouldn't say I don't recommend it lol. What I can say is I don't do it.

:silly: :cowboy:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Understood bro. Those short words of mine in which you quoted was rather just a small joke to correlate with your intake on "What does____ mean?" lol but I understood clearly as did everyone else. Nonetheless, this was another great explanation and I applaud you for it. very well said my friend. much respect.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Ragnar:
Here here to Castro_Bravo for putting those explanations in layman's terms. I hope everyone got something out of that. Because even I who has always been a major supporter of not UV that much got something out of it. I love these threads everyday I learn something here.

Sent from the future via Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
Oh haha, I've always thought asking the question and having people think about it instead of just lecturing works best.

Totally missed that joke lol.

:p
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Yea but you did.. and no one complained about it. We all learned something off it. Once again, thank you.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
My results of moderate to heavy use on Butterlicious!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Looks even a little better than I expected. Awesome!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
This is some of the best results I've ever gotten, thanks to you bro. Really appreciate you sharing your settings with us. You must've experimented with this quite a bit just to try and get most of your fellow users to have the same butterlicious experience!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Hah I wish I could take the credit but most of it goes to enigma1987 over in the ktmanta(nexus10) thread. Though it did take some doing to be this solid on the gs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Butterlicious is running smooth, and great. The only thing is it will take a few days to squeeze all these Lemons :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mcluvin1065:
What's a normal temperature for the s3 battery to be around at any given time of the day?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] solehjeff:
My phone sits at around 35 degrees and gets up around 55 degrees playing some 3d games.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Oddly with touchwiz and butterlicious I can't seem to get the battery life I expect or others are receiving lol anyways just a random status update. Also I think I like the new blazer rom.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Really? not even anything similar to what I got?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Nope. But I have been flashing like crazy testing etc the past few days. Full run today has me at 44% in 5+ hours. Pretty heavy use but still. Screen only hour and half.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JoeFCaputo113:
Now it's just getting weird fellas... sorry I started this sausage love fest!!! HAHAHA JKJK :laugh::cool:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
I haven't had a Full run yet either. Had to USB tether today for about 3hrs. Plus I had to Flash some stuff. So I have to try and do a Full Run tomorrow. But it was doing well till then.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mcluvin1065:
Why does mine sit At 96 f and above?

Sent from my rooted, suited, and booted s3, living the dual core life, know dat.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] styles420:
He quoted temperatures in Celsius - 96 Fahrenheit is roughly 35 Celsius (give or take a few tenths of a degree, I'm too tired to be that accurate without scratch paper and not worried about it enough to switch to the calculator app, lol)

Room temperature is usually somewhere in the 70's, so no phone will get to 35 Fahrenheit even when it's been completely off for a year, unless you put it in a refrigerator ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ArcAngel66:
butterlicioustw

So I am using the (butterlicioustw) along with the (KT747-TW-JB-4.1.2-SPR-05-31-2013) with the (JellyBomb JB ver 15.6.0) and have set the voltages up by 30 across the board, but still having static when playing Pandora or my own music. YouTube an my own videos play fine.

Should I be using the TK-Mod-Beta-1.0.4-Rev1 and if so, what prompts should I use?

Should I use kernelcleaner4kexec?

Any thoughts on what do adjust?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] solehjeff:
Thats what my KTweaker app reads it at but 95 to 130ish degrees Fahreheit.

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Try raising your voltages a bit, i had static playing youtube videos and raising mines fixed it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
I would use the latest tkmod. There are a couple of audio build.prop tweaks that got added along with other fixes. Raise voltages (butterlicious runs at -75) or screen off mhz or just general mhz.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ryandubbz:
Latest tkmod still breaks my Wi-Fi. Very frustrating sometimes it works but almost every time it doesn't. It shows the toggle is enabled but never finds or connects to any networks. When I put it back to stock everything works great
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Did you re-flash your rom? You should start with a base build.prop as it doesn't delete any bad lines.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Good to see you posting up here :good: . Raise them a bit more. Go about 5 up at a time, till you hit the sweet spot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ArcAngel66:
I have not raised the voltage yet and kept it at 30 over; I did reboot again and wipe cache/delvik and fixed permission and this seemed to have fixed the issues. I will still run the TK Mod to be safe... Tks!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ryandubbz:
Rom was flashed clean the latest moar and installed ktoonz kernel through the rom installer and still had issues.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Hmm I would grab the kernel cleaner and kernel from ktoons thread and install that way. Make sure you clear data and force stop ktweaker prior to flashing.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Just a random update for butterlicious on tw. Seems a lot better battery today with pretty heavy usage. Wi-Fi and data on the whole time and auto bright.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] solehjeff:
Me in Hawaii :thumbup::D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] prboy1969:
Good look mw86. I already signed the petition when galaxys3man posted it up ;) .

Oh and BTW check out how my first full run on iamikon's butterliciousTW settings are going :) .

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Holy crap bro... Only 10% drain in 10hrs?? That's insane.. We definitely need some more results! :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iamikon:
Yo it's going to take me days to squeeze butter from all those lemons!!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDriller:
Aww yeah... something new in the works

And I've been outside all day with auto brightness enebaled
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
We got a butterlicious party up in here lol

Keep up the results guys!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] stas333:
what battery is that on?