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[Nexus 4 General] tgarson:
Wish it were that simple, pattern screen protector certainly helps cosmetically, but in my case I'm still SOL.

As a former 4S owner I told myself I would *never* buy another glass back phone, and the warning about this design 'feature' was more upsetting to me in my evaluation of the N4 than the lack of LTE, but I somehow convinced myself that despite reviewers saying that they didn't even make it through the review period without cracking the thing, somehow I'd be different.

The Bumper is eternally out of stock, the cases on Amazon look hideous too me, the only one I actually liked apparently doesn't actually fit the phone correctly and is being redesigned (the Slim case). So in the mean time I applied front and rear clear Skinomi screen protectors and have just been extra paranoid about potential drops.

Of course the more paranoid you become, the more it almost seems to be a self fulfilling prophecy, and after deciding that I can't possibly risk it and ordering a throw-away case yesterday to hold me over until I can get a bumper or something more aesthetically pleasing to me, my phone fell off my 3-4ft high dining room table onto my hardwood floor and landed directly flat on it's back.

Naturally the rear panel is now completely covered in hairline cracks, including a nice sipderweb crack directly over the camera lens. I may apply a new skin to make it look a little better, but I now have a 3 week old N4 that essentially has no camera, all photos now look like crap since the crack is directly over the aperture.

I love the Nexus concept, I love the price, I love the OS, I definitely have some less than favorable opinions about specific aspects of the hardware. Still, for the love of god I hope this phone ends up being very popular. If it does, it is almost guaranteed that there will be no shortage of N4 owners with cracked front and/or rear glass, hopefully prompting the availability of spare parts for me to eventually fix the glass.

Until then, well, no camera for me. And hey, at lest the front didn't shatter too.
[Nexus 4 General] danfalcas:
Holy crap

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Tyscott:
I've got my s case from honk kong before I got my nexus.. Sucks about your phone. Let this be a warning to all, charge your phone on the floor lol.:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] RicoonDK:
What about an electronic insurance for your home? Would'nt that cover the phone exlposions everyone are having?
[Nexus 4 General] svengalis:
You drop a phone and it breaks. You woulda thunk it.
[Nexus 4 General] maxspen:
Yikes

This makes me so nervous, I've only ever had it happen to my HTC EVO 4g, but damn did i love that phone. Fingers crossed i can keep this beautiful phone safe. Sorry man.
[Nexus 4 General] gilgil28:
got my case...
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
I don't see why someone would bs on this, but wow that is very unlikely.

What people are telling you is inconsistent with the fall you describe is not the amount of damage but the pressure points ei, where the culmination of force is centralized to cause more pressure than the strength. It is extremely inconsistent with a fall. What is even more troubling is the double break, which means the force was roughly evenly shared between the two glass sheets which basicly means each side got roughly 1/2 of the maximal force a 3foot drop could have done at the most unlucky angle. + its wood. So basically, here we have a very low drop with half the force that produced a pattern consistent with crush....
[Nexus 4 General] NorySS:
Believe you me, the glass continued to shatter after it happened. When it first cracked it was from screen to screen Glass was cracked in four or five pieces. I went to work and put the phone in my pocket. I wear dress pants so they aren't skinny jeans or anything. Then from 7:30 in the morning, till the time of the picture, ie 11ish, it got worst. IE more spider cracks. And for sure I made it worst because I put pressure on the sides holding the power and volume buttons in different combinations trying to figure out a way to turn off the phone. I didn't notice the rear was cracked till I got to work. Before I packed it up to ship, it continued to get worst and it started leaving pieces of glass in my hand.

I wish I had a video camcorder following me so I could prove all the nay Sayers wrong but i don't.

I'm just here to show people what happened. I have seen people that have sling-ed there phones across gravel (not on purposed obviously). And all the countless drop and drag test of gorilla glass and such. Iphone, Android etc. **** breaks. It's not indestructible.

But, (you knew this was coming) from

MY EXPERIENCE

, with all my other touch screen phones. This phone is delicate/fragile.

Maybe it was a freak accident. Whatever. I'd definitely recommend the bumper or anything for the edges.

IF you can't take my word for it, or the numerous other people that are broken, including review sites, I dunno what to tell you.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
I don't understand why you keep saying it "worsened" as an argument. That is irrelevant. Look at the pictures, 1 side starts top right with a pressure point more towards the center/top. The back side starts mid left with no visible pressure point. It can have as many or as little shatter as it wants, I don't care because 1 small crack compromise the rest of the screen so its only where and how it broke that is relevant.

I'm just saying, you would show that to any physisict and told him it simultaneously happened from 1 drop (regardless of the other variables I stated in my previous post), and he would call you a liar and say you probably bumped into a doorway with it in your pocket or sit/lay with it in your pocket.

Like I said, I see no reason to lie about this, but it really really doesnt add up.

If you look at the bike fall, you see its consistent with the story.

The magintude of the break cannot reveal the type of break. The pattern can.
[Nexus 4 General] NorySS:
Yes I agree with you on the pattern of how the glass breaks. But think about what I am trying to tell you. I kept messing with the phone. Holding the buttons on the sides down in different patterns trying to turn it off. Obviously before that I was pressing down on different parts of the glass trying to find if any of the parts of the screen where still active in a pretty frantic way cause my alarm was going off and I couldn't turn it off.

Obviously the power and volumes buttons are near were the smaller wave cracks or, or pressure points. When you squeeze the buttons down, you are squeezing on the body of the phone also. The sides of the phone are the glass. So thus I am compressing the glass. IS that not plausible?

I wish I had more to add, but I don't. I wish I had started road biking already, so that could be the reason why, instead of a dull desk drop :(

No one is more disappointed in how this phone broken then I am. Lets see what LG is going to charge me to fix it.

Edit: One thing I just realized, looking at my desk/pc. The usb cable was attached to the phone when it dropped. The usb cable hanging from the top port only has 1/2 inch of slack when its on the floor. So, am guessing, not only did the cable help accelerate the fall, or possibly make the fall smack more then once?

I really don't know tbh, I was in the hallway when I heard it fall, outside the room. No one was in there and my dog learned his lesson regarding cables/cords. (he chewed on a power cord and shocked himself)
[Nexus 4 General] fakhrulfaris:
nexus 4 are all glass????? whoa....
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Fixed it..
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
I understand what you are trying to say, but further pressure will cause "spiderwebbing" usually pronouncing the pressure point, not mimic a new one.

The only plausible scenario I see is an improbable one where on the fall, it hit the corner of the computer facedown and then hit on its side after. But then it makes it unlikely to break on the second impact... Unless there was a slightly raised impact point like a small rock that it fell back down on.

Another possible thing would be that there is a raised point applying pressure where the screen is seated. Which would facilitate breakage acting like cops tempered glass pens. Would also explain the "it breaks easily" trend going on if most "easy breaks" happen to have similar location of pressure points.
[Nexus 4 General] tgtoys:
I've had my N4 for a week now with no case or screen protector (yeah I know I'm getting to it..it just feels so nice naked ;) )

The other day I had it sitting in my desk at work plugged into USB. Had to walk away for a minute and must have pulled it off the desk with the chair without even noticing, about 3 feet onto a tile floor. When I came back it was laying screen down on the floor. I braced myself for the worst, literally hesitated and took a deep breath before turning it over. Low and behold, not shattered. As amazed as I was, I still didn't put my hopes up as I expected to see scratches on the glass or chips on the bezel. After a long, thorough inspection..nothing. Nada. Not a scratch.

This was surely a rare case of amazingness. I don't know how it landed because there are no signs of impact. Gorilla glass 2, rubber siding, the Google Gods...I don't know who was responsible, but from the bottom of a mint-device lovers heart, thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
If its ceramic tile, I believe you are lucky as both the ceramic (AFAIK, not 100% sure) and the filling (called "growte" or something like that I believe) can easily scratch the screen.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Very lucky. Some ceramics can scratch glass potentially. Grout definitely can, it has sand in it. Thankfully grout is usually at a lower plane than the tile surface.
[Nexus 4 General] n82k:
+1

Sent from Nexus 4 - cm10 - faux kernel beta001
[Nexus 4 General] tgtoys:
Agreed. To make the situation potentially worse, the floor has the diamond plate texture (like raised x's) throughout which could have surely done more damage (restaurant back of house non slip tile)
[Nexus 4 General] phermey:
the gs2 is a bad ass phone when it comes to drops, speaking for the att version. my n4 will be here tomorrow and ill take a pic of what mine has been through over the last 14 months. with a list of the most amazing feats. love my phone and really dont want to give it up.

sorry to hear that. hope all is well. hope you didnt get 'concussed'.
[Nexus 4 General] rosemachinegun:
USB horror stories like this make me especially glad I picked up a wireless charging mat already.:victory:
[Nexus 4 General] sbasinger:
I've dropped mine a few times with no issues. Are these broken screens/backs truly a problem, or just a vocal minority with bad luck?
[Nexus 4 General] m4nz:
Omg... That's so sad... :(
[Nexus 4 General] 4ktvs:
+1 to that, because I know that phone can take a 6 foot drop in my driveway and the screen is still fine. Only a small dent on one side and 2 very small dent's around it. Glass 99% fine :)
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
WTF is wrong with the so called GORILLA Glass !! Such bull**** claims they make. I m gonna buy covers right away and then only remove the phone from the box
[Nexus 4 General] jabbeboy:
You mean on the front or back? I would say nothing. Its Gorilla Glass 2, yes and it is SCRATCH resistant, but not SHATTERED resistant...

And it isnt gorilla glass 2 on the back.

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Nothing is wrong. Yes the phone has gorilla glass 2, and it is scratch resistant, but not shattered proof..

So shut the fuc up.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
On broken glass?

16GB,NOV 27 6:54 PM EST,2-3 WEEKS, SHIPPED DECEMBER 6TH
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Actually, it is resistant to shatter, its actually the main selling point. But we are talking about dropping glass, you wouldn't be surprised if you dropped a water glass or a window on the floor that it breaks would you? Well gorilla glass is.. Glass too, it just requires more force to break.
[Nexus 4 General] code65536:
There are plenty of alternative cases on eBay and Amazon (including some bumper-style ones for people who don't want to cover the back glass) that are way cheaper than the grossly overpriced (and unavailable!) Play Store bumper. Just get one of those instead.
[Nexus 4 General] phermey:
it is resistant to shatter from the front. the adverts/videos making a spectacle of the gorilla glass only shows how much flex they have and the resistance to scratching. any piece of glass is most brittle from the edges. i dont care what they do to it... you will not be able to hit it from the sides. what protects that is steel.

there are no bumpers available in any way shape or form, unless you want to spend a hundred bucks for one on ebay. closest known re-stock or initial stock for that matter is the 30th. with no guarantee that it hasnt sold out already and end up on backorder.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Actually its just as resistant everywhere. Not sure why you quoted me anyways.

Why it breaks from the edges is because an impact on the edge usually means a more concentrated point of impact, which is what tempered and chemically bonded glasses weakness, the smaller the point of impact, the easier it will break. It is not "more brittle" on the edges, it is just as resistant. It is the impact itself that makes it more brittle.

So the proper wording would be "it is more susceptible to breakage along the edges" vs "it is more brittle from the edges" because it is not in fact.

Sorry to go nitpicky and technical, its just it would be easy to conclude something false from that statement.
[Nexus 4 General] phermey:
there is no flex from the side and therefore it breaks a lot easier. nothing technical about it. i quoted you because you are mis-informed by the marketing ploys and act like the glass is just as impervious from a side impact as it is on a facial. you are also trying to use bs reasoning to further prove your point. all of which is wrong. the point of impact doesnt get smaller because its on the side.
[Nexus 4 General] elliot.newnham:
Have front/back screen covers and a diztronic tpu case... Just dropped it about 4 feet onto tiles and absolutely no damage to speak of..

Yes it is a delicate phone, took massive precautions before getting my case. Gorilla glass is brittle. No getting around it.

Did LG replace your phone for free?
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
Did you send your device for repairs? Shouldn't there br warranty on the glass too. They claim it to be gorilla glass and ****
[Nexus 4 General] d4c:
I don't rage often but this would send me into an uncontrollable rage!
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
For crying out loud, its scratch resistant, not bullet proof.

Do you really expect a warranty for broken phones when dropped.
[Nexus 4 General] thetinguy:
That's a stupid idea. You think google or LG or corning should warrant against misuse of their product? They have stuff called insurance which protects you against damage to your phone.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Take a CD case, drop it on the side, take a CD case, drop it flat, which one has a larger point of impact? Same thing.

It is more solid from side impacts as other type of glasses. Also, flex is only one factor of resistance. Also, the sides themselves have the same property as the rest of the glass.

Your statements imply that the edges don't have the same physical properties as the rest of the glass. That is blatantly wrong.

Telling me I'm wrong with a post filled of bs? You can do better than that.

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That is a very relative statement. Gorilla glass is brittle compared to a metal sheet. Gorilla glass is not brittle compared to regular glass.
[Nexus 4 General] tgtoys:
Please point out these bumpers of which you speak...

So far, I've found the Poetic Bumper that is due to ship on 12/30. I did order this one because they currently have it pre-order priced at only $5.95

http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Border...id=1354823058&sr=8-24&keywords=nexus+4+bumper

Only other thing I've found is on eBay, where the official Play Store Bumper is going for (brace yourself) $110!!!!!! WTF are you kidding me? That's 1/3 the price of the phone!!!! Gotta love capitalism. Supply & Demand baby.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-LG-N...919649?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35c23b1921
[Nexus 4 General] nikeman513:
Call me crazy, but I always remember this is a 300 dollar item in my pocket and hands. So I don't put it in situations where it could drop or accidents can happen; it's that simple.
[Nexus 4 General] chrondroid:
^^ i do the same, this thing is my baby. If I can drop this then I can't trust myself to hold a baby either. I've had it 2 weeks now NAKED (by choice, the phone is incredibly comfortable in my hand) and I love it. Haven't dropped it once but I did catch it sliding off an uneaven surface one time. I no longer put the phone down on slippery surfaces.

My pocket is my phone case.
[Nexus 4 General] tgtoys:
This has been covered already. Yes, we all take good care of our devices. Some people are crazy careful with them. Doesn't mean an ACCIDENT can't happen. Put it this way...are you careful when you drive? Do you do everything in your power to avoid crashing? Yeah. Does that mean it's impossible to think you would get in an ACCIDENT? No. For anyone confused on what an accident is, here's the definition.

Accident: An accident or mishap is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention or necessity.

I can't really comprehend why so many people are bashing others that are ending up with broken devices. If it was careless, then yeah they were dumb for putting themselves in that situation. But truly, it's not that simple to say that it shouldn't happen at all. I suppose I could wrap my Nexus 4 in 4 layers of bubble wrap and shove it in a sock, then only use a bluetooth headset, NFC & Wireless charging so it never gets put into a situation where an accident occurs, is that what you're doing to not put yourself in the situation? Because as far as I can tell, even pulling it out of your pocket can be a situation where it can fall out of your hand and result in (wait for it...) an accident.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
I don't put my phone in a pocket that doesn't close when I go biking, heck, I put it in my chest pocket because if I fall its the less likely impact. I have a dog, so my charging cable is not hanging from the wall across the kitchen table. I do not put my phone in my left pocket because when I get out of the car it might slide. When its not in my hand, its in my pocket, not on the corner of my glass kitchen table. When I am in a sitting position and put my phone in my pocket, I push the phone all the way down so it can't slide out when I stand up. I throw my phone on the bed and the sofa (nope, that won't break it I swear)

I am not a careful person per say, you just need to form your phone habits being conscious that its fragile. Do I spend extra time or lose convenience from those habits? No.
[Nexus 4 General] tgtoys:
Agreed, I do many of the same things. Which is why it's hard to bash someone who takes the proper precautions and still ends up with a broken phone. I posted earlier about how I had my phone plugged in on my desk and walked away and it fell off, onto the floor. Miraculously it was unharmed, but that's not to say that I'm not cautious. I just experienced an accident. Not tryin to turn this into a flame war or anything, just saying accidents happen. That's all.
[Nexus 4 General] Pheno.menon:
Stop being so paranoid about dropping it and get a god damn case until more bumpers hit the market.

/thread

Transmission sent from my Galaxy Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] snowglyder:
I tried to smash your signature with my Nexus 4. Many screens were cracked. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] nikeman513:
Nobody is confused on accidents. They can be prevented by thinking before doing certain things with your phone. Like knowing its slippery and putting a charger to it on a table that could slide it off...

And like you said accidents still occur. Going back to the OP that this has nothing to do with lg or Google and the quality/durability of the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Put a leash on your Box and there you go the ultimate travel case:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
My screen protector just arrived.
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Seeing pics of the shattered screen gives me a horrible feeling inside. Increasingly getting more paranoid. Just got my official bumper today (ordered on Nov 13th). It stops the sliding issue. I would definitely recommend it.
[Nexus 4 General] oneonezerosix:
my condolences.
[Nexus 4 General] NorySS:
I was suppose to know that the phone slides or glides easily?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not asking LG or Google for anything. Heck I don't think anywhere in this thread have I asked for anything? Have I?

I am just saying that the phone is fragile as an FYI to other people. Especially those that are coming from the gnex .

Guys seriously? I'm the only one that has a Usb cable on their desk? Lol

All I can say is that, shame on HTC and Samsung for cradling/babying me with their rugged phones that don't glide on desk. /sarcasm

Phones break randomly. Some From Small drops, some from high drops. It's the luck of the draw. And I got the short end this time. :rolleyes:a
[Nexus 4 General] Nitemare3219:
Mine has fallen 1.5 to 2 feet several times onto my wood floor due to my clumsiness when I just wake up (dang thing slides off whatever I put it on). I have gotten very slight scratches on the back glass because of it, but nothing major.
[Nexus 4 General] pottersam:
mine fell the same way last night, glided off the couch when hooked up via usb and fell 2 feet to hit the floor. my heart sank immediately but there was no sign of damage anywhere to my luck.
[Nexus 4 General] treoless:
To those unlucky ones, don't forget the Purchase Protection from your credit card issuers. It typically covers accidental damage within 90 days of purchase.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I basically make sure to situate it so it can't slide off the surface I put it on. I have the cord on my nightstand and objects situated so that the phone is blocked from coming off the stand if the cord is pulled, hopefully the cord just pops out but I'm not about to yank it hard enough to find out. I won't worry so much when I have a bumper.

I'm just going to enjoy this sexy naked phone and hope I don't drop it. If I do I hope it survives. If not, I'll get it fixed/replaced.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Oooouuuuchhhhh...I need to get a case asap!! :o
[Nexus 4 General] elmoojps:
Man that sucks. I feel your pain! My phone is at LG for cracked screen/bunked digitizer repair right now. I'm documenting my repair experience with LG for others here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2028077

I got super pissed today when they told me it was going to cost $140 to fix after initially telling me it was going to be between $40 and $100.
[Nexus 4 General] gotzaDroid:
Because of this thread, I cut a piece of that tacky tool box liner stuff to place my phone on while it's on my night stand! It holds it well and was dirt cheap. Now of only LG would make that damn wireless charging dock orb thing...
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
dropped mine today, i was placing my phone into my pocket but it did not go through and dropped about 3 feet high facing back of my phone i was nearly having heart attack but oh my god no sign of damage at all however i got few scratches on the back of my phone but you know what i had protector on the back glass :laugh::laugh::laugh: ..

have to order another back glass protector now :p:p
[Nexus 4 General] NorySS:
Funny you mention that. But it looks like they are giving a flat price on the repair. This guy is getting front and rear glass replaced for the same amount:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35057687&postcount=82

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35057687#post35057687

So I was relieved.
[Nexus 4 General] chrondroid:
Officially got my first scratch on the screen ahhh I'm cringing lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ak700:
I haven't removed the screen protectors till now. Really scared to use the phone without scratching it.