yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] deltatux:
I have been playing with my colleague's Nexus 4 (that lucky bastard) but since I work in IT and that I constantly stare at different types of screens, I don't notice issues anymore since my eyes just adapt to them unless they're obviously of lower quality or are faulty. However, the Nexus 4 is definitely comparable with my ASUS Transformer Pad Prime in terms of contrast but unsurprisingly, the AMOLED had much better black levels, but that was to be expected.

deltatux
[Nexus 4 General] rodmc123:
the point is, amoled need to improve its color accuracy, but also it has big improvements over all lcd technologies.. no backlight, perfect blacks, higher contrast, lower reflectance, etc.

so in the end, only high-end lcd screens can be compared to Amoled displays...

anyway, my point was that most people cant even tell the difference in color accuracy and they talk like they are gonna get eye cancer for looking some oversaturated color, they just repeat what they hear.
[Nexus 4 General] idividebyzero:
The blacks are great during the day or at work under bright office lights, but at home under regular 60w bulbs the blacks do suck. For some reason the viewing angle is also incredibly bad for an IPS which makes the blacks a very bright gray from off angles, the viewing angles are almost as bad as a TN lcd.

During the day I think this screen looks better. During the night AMOLED blows it away.

And no this phone doesnt have good color accuracy, we've proven that the gamma is extremely out of wack. Compare it to a properly calibrated computer monitor and the difference is huge, the colors are very washed out and the values are way too bright, all because the gamma levels are set to an astonishing 1.4 instead of 2.2 like they should be. IPS does have more accurate colors than OLED, but ONLY when calibrated correctly, whoever calibrated this phone had no idea what they were doing.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I have heard these complaints before about washing out but I do not see it.

I have not compared my phone to my PC monitors but it is difficult to find 2 that look alike. The only real way to see how well it is calibrated is to use the tool designed for it.

Much of this is just opinion. My opinion is that the amoled screens are too vibrant and the colors are too bright. Once used to it though it looks great.

The ISP screen at least on my device looks very sharp and crisp and I see no washout. I have watched color calibration videos and have downloaded apps and I as just not seeing these issues.

The only real issue I see with this ISP is that the viewing angles are lousy. I almost always hold my phone in my hand and look directly at it so viewing angles are not an issue.

One major plus is the zero gap construction. This really make what your viewing seem like it is right on the surface instead of being behind it.

The bottom line is this is an amazing display. To each his own though..

Another major plus that just popped into my brain is being able to view this display outside. I honestly could not even use my amoled display outside. Even with brightness way up, if there was any sun at all I could not see the screen. I would put my hands over etc.. Still g didn't work well. This ISP is excellent outside..

Just my opinions here..

sent via xda premium with Nexus 7 or Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] spoonboy:
The n4 owners getting defensive make me laugh.

I don't care about nits and true colour, I much prefer the deep blacks and pop colours. My last few phones have been the s1 s2 and s3.

And yet I'm getting and looking forward to the Nexus 4.

There is no need to bash a screen just because you don't like it, people are allowed to have opinions!
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
Initially, I hated the Nexus 4's display, but after I few days I started to get used to the colors. The black levels are much better than I thought they would be. AMOLED still has better black levels, and I do miss the Gnex display in certain situations, but I do not miss the linen like effect, and the burn in. I'm anxious to see what the next generation of AMOLED will look like, as each iteration appears to be better and better.

I hope that Google releases two Nexus devices next year, one with the latest AMOLED display, and a slightly smaller form factor. I like my N4, and the screen is actually pretty good, but I feel that my Gnex is more comfortable to type on.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
That IS opinion. There are Obama haters and people insult him all the time, but they are entitled to their opinion of the president.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
I think what he was getting at is the N4 owners debating their screen is better as fact. I agree with him...no reason for people to get so defensive. There are millions that prefer amoled and millions that prefer IPS. I've had the best of both (one x and Note 2) and I liked both of them. I lean towards the N2 because I love a good deep black and prefer a little more saturation, but the One X was awesome as well and I take nothing away from it.

What I do find funny is that I guarantee some on here defending the N4's "natural" colors were the same people bashing the iphones washed out screen and touting amoled as king.
[Nexus 4 General] dario3040:
Can people stop saying that? It's getting old.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
You choose to miss the blacks, I choose to love the whites. Honestly, true blacks are a luxury that you actually have to look for. You will never think "omg overall this image sucks because the blacks are too illuminated". You will however easily notice piss colored whites.

Also, even though the blacks are not as deep on the nexus, the gradients are so much better that I even prefer the blacks on the nexus.

God, I feel like a member of KKK. I don't care about the blacks, white is all I care for.
[Nexus 4 General] wynand32:
What's odd about this entire thread is that the only AMOLED product I own is my SGSII. That means that I tolerate the "bad" blacks on my iPad 3, Nexus 7, Nexus 10, and on all of the previous non-AMOLED devices I've owned, but somehow I'm supposed to be terribly bothered because the Nexus 4 won't match the blacks on my SGSII. I mean, seriously: not once have I ever looked at any of my other non-AMOLED devices and thought, "Boy, these suck because the blacks aren't as good as on my SGSII."

Bizarre.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Also, IPS has a "reflective nature" so it does produce even "less deep" blacks than other LCD. The thing though, is people talk about the blacks but forget about its relevance, the black itself without reference cannot really be qualified. Blacks are important for contrast. Other displays might have much better blacks but the gradient is so weak that it's totally retarded to even compliment the black. You rarely see "attempted true blacks" in real life scenarios, you will see shades, greys, dark areas which makes gradient much more important than that pitch black you never encounter but still look for.

For example... I've never actually noticed the android keyboard had a smooth black to light transition from bottom to top before using the nexus 4. I used to think it was just dark gray and the top looked lighter because of white text box optical illusion. Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
I miss the poor display quality of my SAMOLED Gnex. There's not enough banding, poor definition, or random screen artifacts. Images are much too clear and defined.
[Nexus 4 General] reqmon:
I miss old good CRT technology... It was super bright, warm, with cool flicker and stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] maxspen:
Hate this

I really am tired of this argument... this phone's screen is beautiful and if people would just realize that it looks more realistic and less cartoon like maybe they could get on board. Super AMOLED screens are fine, but they're not realistic. This phone looks amazing, especially when watching video or reading from the web. I came from a super AMOLED and i really appreciate the beauty of this awesome phone!
[Nexus 4 General] fuego77:
My white galaxy nexus on the right and my nexus 4 on the left. I am so happy to get away from amoled, the blacks are amazing on the N4 for it being LCD and all. People aren't giving it enough credit, I got used to the N4 when I use my galaxy nexus everything feels like there's a sick nasty hue over it and the fishnet affect pentile leaves is annoying
[Nexus 4 General] yo2boy:
Would've loved a clearer picture. Anyway, nice comparison!
[Nexus 4 General] fuego77:
Only thing I had was an old G2 to take pics. Sorry brother!
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Blacks on the n4 are extremely deep. It will never be as deep as "off" like amoled, but it's damn good. I like this display much more than the GNex. I even got an opportunity to have two GNex and my n4 all side by side and my GNex looked much more natural and less " blue" than the other one. Both were gsm, and the same software revision. Was odd. The n4 blew both of them away. Test was NYT homepage.
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
I actually changed my N4 and got Note 2 I can tell now. N4 has AMAZING screen. Note 2 is a beast but the colors are really bright DOES NOT LOOK NATURAL AT ALL. N4 very crisp icons no doubt. N4 in the end beat GS3 and Note 2 in the screen.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
God dammit OP, why the hell can't you compromise.
[Nexus 4 General] rodmc123:
you just said that because you need to justify the money you spent in the nexus 4 lol. the reality is that the nexus 4 screen is not very sensitive and its colours are not accurate at all because a bad calibration (lets hope it can be fixed by a SW update).

so at the end it looks a little crisper but is less responsitive, it is even hard to use the swype keyboard on it.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Ummm.. None of this is true for my device, maybe you need to RMA?
[Nexus 4 General] tweaked:
This is the most incorrect thing I have ever read on these forums...Go troll elsewhere.
[Nexus 4 General] Nick Fury:
Awkward moment when others users get more thanks than the OP.
[Nexus 4 General] Vertron:
Both screens can be calibrated to have more natural colours and to remove any screen tints.

My original SGS had a yellow tint and unrealistic colors. After tweaking the colours it's now a clean white and videos look more natural. The same will be possible for the N4's yellow tint and gamma issue too.

Google should add a rbg and gamma screen modifier in the next version of Android.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Calibration is one thing, for the hues mainly. Basicly, calibration will put a "film" over the actual display. The thing about that is counter balance. The green might be excellent without extra calibration, now to remove the hue you ruin the green a little. Of course it looks better because your white ain't piss anymore, but overall it creates a less ideal display than a good display right of the bat. Plus, to get "better blacks" you will merely reduce the brightness of all your screen.

Besides, "out of the box" colors are extremely important because honestly over 90% of the people won't change calibration, so a poor display will reflect as a poor device in the consumer market.
[Nexus 4 General] fuego77:
Do u even own this device? The screen on this phone is AMAZING, nothing less. And screen sensitivity issues? I have None at all. My screen is very sensitive
[Nexus 4 General] Web-head:
This is about as gross a misrepresentation of what a calibration is, and actually does, as any that I've ever seen.

Please cease and desist.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
please correct with your tremendous amount of knowledge on the subject.

PS. As extremely clear by the wording, the film analogy is... An analogy meaning 1 thing corrected will affect everything.
[Nexus 4 General] mrbkkt1:
I had a nexus one. Coolest thing about that phone was the amoled screen. When i used it in dock mode, it was cool, where only the clock pixels were on. Pentile never really bothered me.

However, I also had another n1, where it was a slightly purple hue, and had dead pixel. When I switched to my sensation, I missed certain things, but I do believe it has a clearer screen over all.
[Nexus 4 General] eternityends:
I prefer the overall clarity of the display (pixel density) vs the contrast ratio.

I'm coming from a Captivate with an AMOLED screen.
[Nexus 4 General] DonDizzurp:
people who say unnatural colours dont matter and over-saturation is cool for a phone are living back in 2005..

realistic colours are extremely beneficial when viewing pictures and videos. over-saturation makes things look fake and cartoon-y. i dont want to watch a movie where everyones skin color makes them look like aliens or something.
[Nexus 4 General] chrondroid:
There's only 1 thing AMOLED does better than this LCD IPS display. The blacks.

Oversaturation and power consumption are big negatives for me, i really dislike the cartoony look they have.
[Nexus 4 General] Broken:
Why is this thread still going?
[Nexus 4 General] idividebyzero:
Yes realistic colors would be nice, its too bad this phone doesnt have them. The One X does, the iPhone does, the Nexus 4 doesnt, instead of being over saturated they are under saturated which is just as bad.
[Nexus 4 General] DonDizzurp:
under saturation or the "washed" look is something i havent noticed on my buddys n4. hopefully its only a few batches that were affected.
[Nexus 4 General] adi_scorpios:
Just got my N4 today and I had s3 before. After using three Samsung phones I feel like colors were more brighter on Samsung . no I m not complaining and I dont care . I knew what I was buying and I am happy with my phone. I wanted nexus and pure Google that's what I got with n4 . don't care about colors saturation , removable battery, LTE ( which is just getting slower anyways as more lte device are coming on network).
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
A million page argument over personal preference.

For ****s sake, someone will like one thing, someone will like something else, why is there a need to over analyse it?

For the record, I've had both AMOLED and LCD phones, the majority being LCD. The AMOLEDs were both PenTile, so that is enough reason for me to prefer the LCDs.
[Nexus 4 General] KidCarter93:
I only see 8 pages :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] dcdttu:
I was worried, coming from a Galaxy Nexus - but if you look at Anandtech's review of the screen, one thing it beat all other (LCD) displays at was its contrast and ability to show blacks as black. It beat the One X, the iPhone 5. Everything.

I LOVE this screen. The blacks are plenty black for me too, better than any other LCD on a phone out there according to the tests.

Anandtech Nexus 4 Review - Display
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Thanks for joining the conversation..... Lol how ironic.
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
Thus, calibration. To correct all the color and gamma errors and get the screen as close to spec as possible.
[Nexus 4 General] hughkolias:
I have to say - every time this thread pops up I think "wow someones really rascist" lololol but I agree with the blacks not being so deep but in the end its worth the trade off! Just my 2 cents lololo
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Seriously this display is fantastic.. it has excellent black levels. The only reason this thread hasn't been closed has to be that the mods are amused. :)
[Nexus 4 General] PoisonWolf:
anyone have mura lines on their display?
[Nexus 4 General] KidCarter93:
How? Even if the thread was about what the title suggests, that would mean the OP was anti-racism.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
I think he means some people who hate the LCD IPS in the Nexus 4 say

"I HATE THE BLACKS, they suck! Only good thing is the whites!"
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
The thread title would probably get Obama's attention hahahaha

16GB,NOV 27 6:54 PM EST,2-3 WEEKS, SHIPPED DECEMBER 6TH,LEFT LOUIVILLE KY 2:30PM DECEMBER 6TH
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smerfherder:
Just picked up a used GNex and thought everything was great until i started using it. I have a regular and an extended battery both exhibiting near instantaneous battery drain til it gets down to about 70 - 60 percent and slows down a little. disabled auto rotate and GPS with brightness turned all the way down. using liquidsmooth and also reverted to stock- rooted with same results.

All in all from full charge to completely drained I get about 6 hours with light to moderate use. It takes about 6 - 7 hours to charge as well.

I knew the Gnex was a battery eater but this seems a little much.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] simms22:
how much screen on time do you get? i assume CDMA/lte gnex?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smerfherder:
yes, VZW phone. I don't know what you mean by screen on time, how do I check that?

Also wanted to mention that I did wipe batterys stats when flashing and with liquid the default lean kernel settings

another thing I noticed is when charging the batter goes from 100% to 99% pretty frequently.

Like I said I'm new to the GNex but this kind of battery life actual makes me want to go back to the TBolt.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kyokeun1234:
you check your screen on time by going into settings, then battery, then tap/click on the screen. then you'll see the screen on time. since you are using 4.1 JB on LTE device, I don't think the battery life would be that good, but we need to know the screen on time to know if there is a problem or if it's normal
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] simms22:
using it heavy for 6 hours total battery time and getting 3-4.5 hours screen on time is normal. using it lightly for 6 hours total battery time and getting 1 hour of screen on time is not normal. heck, i get great battery life, but i can kill my battery within 5 hours, but ill get 4.5 hours screen on time(gsm gnex).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smerfherder:
hate to say it but that probably answers my question. If I had to guess I would say the screen was on most of the time as it is new to me so getting things set up and such. will try some of the tips I found around these parts and report back.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smerfherder:
flashed latest official image from Google and got nearly 13 hrs. on battery with nearly 3 hrs screen time while on 3g most of the day.

so I think it is either 4g or maybe something to do with the bootloader which was on ja003 before. IDK but reasonably happy with battery now.
[Off-topic] dimasp6:
Resolved.
[Off-topic] prototype7:
Did you try turning it off and back on again? Does that work with girlfriends?
[Off-topic] Danial723:
Go with your heart.....with love comes forgiveness......its up to you if you can forgive
[Off-topic] 85gallon:
Is Dr. Phil a member here??? :confused:
[Off-topic] prototype7:
Most people seem to think so :rolleyes::p
[Off-topic] veeman:
If it's working all wonky, reboot. If that still doesn't work then flash back to stock.
[Off-topic] shahkam:
Cmon man he clearly not in the mood..

@OP in relationship there is always ups and down i think your just going thru a down moment how often do you see her ? That makes a difference because if you barely see her she will feel like its nothing too serious so she will allow herself to get tipsy or whatever ..

I think you could give her a last chance always try before quitting.
[Off-topic] 85gallon:
Good point!!

OP, are you getting it on a regular basis? If so let it slide. If not, then dump her!

[/Dr. Phil]
[Off-topic] prototype7:
I see what you did there, even if you didn't mean to.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Guy, if you ain't ready for some trolling, don't make a thread in OT :rolleyes: For OP, considering you're ages, long distance and there way she has disregarded your feelings, I say it's time to move on.
[Off-topic] Pennycake:
I think if it's bad enough she's landing in the hospital, she needs professional counselling. Mistakes happen, but if this is a real substance abuse issue, that **** is serious. People can get that under control, but usually not on their own. I don't know her, so I don't know how bad it is.

Other than that, I guess it depends on how serous a relationship is. I'm a worrier, myself, but if she's not cheating or something I don't see the big deal apart from the potential alcoholism. I mean, I get drunk - it's not a permanent thing, it wears off, it's not like it changes who I am forever (or really at all).

My only worry is the potential for substance abuse. Maybe the ER visit can be a wake-ep call if her family and friends can get together and make sure she understands the serious nature of abusing alcohol.

I dunno. I'm a biology major. I know about cells and ****. *shrug*
[Off-topic] jaszek:
If you having girl problems I feel bad did you son

I've got 99 problems but a female dog ain't one.
[Off-topic] veeman:
Indeed

Sent from my Nexus 7

Stop... MUFFIN TIME!!!
[Off-topic] dimasp6:
She's great and definitely not an obuser. She says it will never happen again but then again what was she expecting in the first place? She knows she has the option to choose and be single, but she wants to be with me more than anything and yet she still goes to parties. I'm sure there's a lot she doesnt tell me because she knows what upsets me. I just can't get over the terrible feeling I got when her friend called in the middle of the night, that's nothing like her. I had a bad feeling about it even before she went.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Your blinded by your emotions. None of us want to believe someone we love is an abuser. But from a guy who abused drugs and alcohol for years, I'm sorry, she has a problem. Its escalating and will only get worse .If you really care about her, help her get help for her alcoholism.
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
1. Drop out of high school

2. Get a GED

3. Enroll at her college

4. Get super trashed with her

---------- Post added at 08:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 PM ----------

She's just a freshman... I doubt she's past the point of no return...
[Off-topic] dimasp6:
I'm going to give her another chance. I can't imagine being without her. She is nowhere near that, I would know. I would never let it get to that point.

I dont believe in 3d chances, I hope it's worth it.
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Precisely why she should get help right now. She is no where near the point of no return. The younger you get it, the better for one in the long run.
[Off-topic] FatalityBoyZahy:
Reboot into recovery and restore your NANDROID backup.
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
Dude i wish the thanks was still here my god ur answer was classic! Love it :thumbup:

Anyway dude she is at college she is not worried about what you are doing and she is gona do whatever she wants period!!!! You need to do what u want bc when u get to college you are gona forget about her. Im not some kid telling you dumb crap im 34 and ive seen it and been through it. She prob bangin some other dude right now! Sorry to be so harsh but its so true :( your young and should be hookin up with all the hot chicks you can. Hope it all works out for ya :D
[Off-topic] dimasp6:
I wish it was that simple..
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Think I was around 23 or 24 when I realized I'd been drinking everyday for the past 5 years...

Back on topic though, who's to say the OP won't do the same once he gets a taste of freedom, off at college...
[Off-topic] fleurdelisxliv:
+1000000000
[Off-topic] AtoZ0to9:
Thanks.... and very good points you have there... it's time to desensitize yourself... it's obviously bothering you because you're letting it bother you... time to step back some... once you get to college, high chance you'll be doing the same... so like fleur said, get ur thang wet as much as possible... keep her as your GF though, so you can bang her when she comes into town and stuff... and also, go to her school... see where things go... it's a win win situation even if it feels like a loss...
[Off-topic] dimasp6:
Live and learn.

And I will be going to the same university.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Wait wait wait...is Allan a HS senior now?
[Off-topic] boborone:
[YOUTUBE]nmy113gMds0[/YOUTUBE]
[Off-topic] jaszek:
for(i = o; i<=infinity; i++)

System.out.println("Thanks!")
[Off-topic] Android_Monsters:
Might as well see what happens. Freshman year is an interesting time to say the least.

But, lots of people who were highschool sweethearts make it work.

She's probably just overwhelmed by college and blowing off some steam.