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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Milkman00:
Thank you Granna. That is a good work around, but not really the solution I was looking for since I don't use the note each time I pull out the pen.

Hoping for another fix.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] warfanax:
I have another type of delay.

If you go to Snotes and try to open any note you have there it takes forever to open the note. Sometimes I think I didnt touch the icon well enough but then it opens. There are times I have to wait 4-5 sec to open a note in Snotes.

Such a slow app. However my pop-up note works very fast everytime double click with pen.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asl9622:
Hey everyone,

My nexus 4 screen shows a perfect grid of silver dots when I am in sunlight. It seems to happen at certain angle. Is anyone else experiencing this? Thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
It's normal, it's just the touch screen digitiser - same with my One X
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asl9622:
Thanks for the quick reply! Good to hear there isn't a problem.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spitefulcheerio:
Yeah that's just the digitizer. It has something to do with LG moving the screen closer to the glass so the digitizer is more visible than past phones
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otariq:
The only thing that sucks about that is if the screen breaks so does the digitizer
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arczangel:
What about when the screen is off? mine has grid of dots on the screen is off and i can see it also when it is on. thought first it is a stain under the screen protector but it is not.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ctowne:
Thats LCD IPS for ya
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
I just went to a Telus store to get a new micro SIM, and looked at the screens of the HTC One X+, Galaxy S3 and Note2, couldn't see this grid pattern on any of them. I don't see it on mine if I'm in a room with no sunlight, but soon as there is sunlight its very noticeable. Walking outside soon as I take my phone out its all I can see. I'm worried I have something wrong or defective.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klvnhng:
Nope, that's completely normal. Don't worry ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
If that is normal take a photo of your phone with the same thing. I have not found any hi-res images of the Nexus 4 with this sort of pronounced visible grid pattern.

I contacted Google Play support via chat and they said it's not normal and I should RMA. But I'm still not 100% confident Its a defect and my replacement won't just be the same.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XxSilent22xX:
that is normal, there is actually two patterns, the silver dots and one with rectangle boxs like lol, not sure how to describe it. your phone is fine.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lyall29:
Its normal. I had the HTC inspire 4g, and the lg optimus g and they had the same thing.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
Then why does no other phone have this visible? I compared it side by side with a HTC One X+, Galaxy S3, Note2 and none of them had any visible grid of tiny rectangles.

None of the photos I've seen of the Nexus 4 screen have any of this visible. Its not just with sunlight, any light makes it visible, almost has a textured look.

If this is normal then I'm really disappointed in this phone, seems like a glaring difference between the it and the other popular phones, that's why i think its not normal, i never saw any reviews mention anything like this.

If i take a photo of my phone at either of these angles I could clearly see the grid, but these 2 random photos show nothing

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ssMeP0mCv...600/Google+Nexus+4+Wallet+Case+Review+(1).jpg

http://bestboyz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Photos-Google-Nexus-4-4.jpg

I can sometimes in the correct light and angle see the shinny silver dots, this is no what i'm talking about and not what my photo clearly shows.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eA4J8jHPBw0/UQhCP9-jZnI/AAAAAAABczQ/etrGO4JDT-c/s845/DSCN0964.JPG

The pattern is a grid of rectangles in this type of shape (excluding dots)

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lyall29:
Why in the world does it matter if you can't see them when the screen is on? The Samsung screens are a completely different types of screens.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
Its NORMAL.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
+1

As usual, customer support is useless.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EPayne123:
Normal due to NO gap in between digitizer and glass paneling. LG did this intentionally and is why you can see it. Other manufacturers DONT do it due to being able to see digitizer. LG did it intentionally and it is normal.

---------- Post added at 03:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:39 AM ----------

Also the reaspning behind WHY digitizer is useless after glass paneling breaking versus SIIIs paneling and others still being functional. Because the glass paneling doesn't automatically break digitizer when breaking because of the gap.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
I said I can see it when the screen is on, even with a tilt as little as 5 degrees. My friend who also has a Nexus 4 says his is not that noticeable and can only see it with a much greater tilt degree.

If this is normal why did the Google tech support say its not normal and told me to warranty my phone? But I know the tech support is probably not great and they might just say that to anything. But I sent them the photo of my screen and that's what they said.

So I really don't know what to think, people in this thread say its normal, but Google support says its not...

I really don't want to go through the hassle of sending in my phone for warranty if I just get back a phone with the same quirk.

As I posted before, why don't some others post some angled photos of there screens in daylight.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EPayne123:
Who knows why they say that. If you believe them then go to town and quit asking us why. Believe them and get a replacement with the same thing lol. People ask questions on here and then get an answer and don't believe anything they get as a response haha
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lyall29:
You must have some kind of bionic vision. You aren't related to the six million dollar man are you?:D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
I just tried to take a picture for you of both my Xoom and Nexus 4 because you can see the digitizer on both. However it is night here and impossible to take a photograph of it in artificial light.

I honestly don't understand why this is a huge deal for you. This is the way the technology works with this display. It can only be seen in bright light at an extreme angle.

I can promise you if you do RMA your phone, your new one will be identical and you would have wasted yours and everyone else's time.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
this is why I think mine is not normal, mine can be seen at almost every angle under any light. In daylight its SUPER noticeable though, even with the screen on and full of colour.

Only at night with no light directly on the screen is it not very noticeable, but if I put it near one of my computer screens I can see the grid.

If you and others say this is the way its supposed to be, that LG made it this way, where is a source for that info? I can't find any. Why is it not mentioned anywhere, in reviews or visible in any photos online.

I'm waiting until tomorrow, my friend who owns one up north is going to take a photo of his. He says he can barely notice it, only at an extreme angle like you say. Which is not the case with my phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
I give up...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshnichols189:
Don't worry, I gave up just reading this thread.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
I gave up all faith in humanity after reading this thread and will be killing my cat and then myself shortly.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshnichols189:
Take me with youuuu
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I2IEAILiiTY:
Yea, started on page 1, skipped straight to here.

But what a coincidence.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The.Penguin:
Lmao!!!!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
A few things for the person worried about the visible digitizer grid:

If you don't like the way it looks, RMA it. Though I warn you they could send you a steaming pile in return. If your phone is working properly and your only complaint is the digitizer, keep it. There's much worse out there, like the yellow spot displays and the red light syndrome phones.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monte666:
Can't fix stupid guy's just give up
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kick-Ass Joe:
It's because you have natural lightning op.

Sent from my Paranoid Android Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evonc:
Just wait till he flips the phone and checks the back. That grid on the back panel is surely RMA worthy. :P

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
We're a mean bunch of a-holes.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klvnhng:
LOL
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
yes.. people on this forum are not very friendly. so helpful.

I showed my phone around to 12 people at a ski trip this weekend and everyone can clearly see the grid even with the screen on. All were of the opinion something is not normal.

I finally received a photo of my friends Nexus4 and placed it beside mine, he says he can't see the grid unless its a very certain light and angle. In the photo not grid is noticeable on his phone on the left. I'm convinced now that its indeed not normal and I'm going to warranty the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kazliux:
It is normal. Lcd grid is on every n4.

Sent from my sexy Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
Mine looks like the one on the right. Never bothered me. Your phone, though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshnichols189:
Yeah, and how many of your friends have a phone with an IPS SLCD display?

IT IS NORMAL. Some phones you can see it more than others.

That does not mean there is anything wrong with your phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beegbear:
by the looks of your attached picture, it's def not normal!

I have dotted lines going through the screen, but nothing like this grid.. something is clearly wrong.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
I think i should have started my own thread rather than posting in this one, the thread title is maybe misleading some people. I'm not talking about the dots you mention. I can also see those dots in certain light and at certain angles, that's defiantly not a problem or distracting and from what I've found IS normal.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshnichols189:
Mine has grid lines and dots too. There is nothing wrong with it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
BUT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REP SAID THERE IS!!! Don't you understand! :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WoozyBE:
Seriously! THIS IS NORMAL! Every IPS device has this. AMOLED phones don't. IPS tablets also have those grids beneath the screen including the Asus Infinity.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onekon:
Although it is normally to have the grid, it is not normal to have it visible even with the phone on.

I have four nexus 4 and one of them was an RMA . the RMA unit is exhibiting the same exact problem as your while my other three also have the grid but it is not visible while on.

The one RMA unit I received yesterday has the grids which can been seen with the phone on full brightness and viewing a full color photo. It is very annoying to say the least.

I already called Google for an RMA today, I have four and I know that this is not normal.

I can only see the grid on these three only at extreme angles, in the sun and with display off ONLY. This new RMA I received I can see the grid at any angle other than straight on and its easily visible even with the screen on and at full brightness. It sort of shines light reflective running shoes under sun light.

RMA it trust me its not normal at the level that you are able to notice it at. Grid should only be visible at high angles and under direct light.

Good luck.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Canadaka:
Thank you! one person who is helpful and isn't rude or spewing fanboy crap.

My Co-worker just bought a Nexus 4 today on craigslist and I used his phone today, NO visible grid on his Nexus4. Putting the 2 phones side-by-side there is a drastic difference. I can say with 100% certainty now that it is not normal to have the digitizer grid this visible.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
It was visible while the screen was on? RMA it and don't listen to the people telling you it's normal.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onekon:
Thanks,

I think everyone here had good intentions when replying or they just weren't aware of the severity of the problem. The grid and dots are normal to a certain extent but when you can still see them when the display is on and at full brightness that is not normal.

When did you buy yours? I'm wondering if they changed anything in the manufacturing process.

My RMA unit is really bad, it seriously looks like a reflective running shoe or a safety jacket when its on and in the sun. I can clearly see the pattern.

I also notice more of a yellowish hue to the whites when compared to the other three nexus 4 I have. I really didn't want to return this one since it had a faster classed CPU and very little hsic wakelocks, but this flaw is very distraction, it immediately draws your attention to the grid pattern rather than the screen.

Anyways god bless and good luck.

Onekon
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thin_Bezel:
Nooooooo, not the cat! :eek:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khaiyan:
Wow...you dug up a very old threat for...that?

Anyway, while we're at it, is your RMA unit working fine OP?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thin_Bezel:
Wow, didn't see the date.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...-has-begun-receive-android-411-united-kingdom

No love still for note 10.1 wifi.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] zoomee:
:(

I've posted on Samsungs UK facebook page asking when us 8010 users are due to get JB. Response was as follows:

Please add your support to my cause here!:

https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMob...comment_id=6056497&notif_t=feed_comment_reply
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
Yes this is getting irritating now no update of 8000 in india to samsung service sucks big times idiots are not sitting in korea but ****ting in korea
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] GoNz0:
if the lower spec tabs getting it then samsung crossed the line with taking the piss
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] denialnw10:
This is quite humorous, as I just switched from a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 to a Galaxy Note 10.1, thinking that the updates would come thick and fast to the more premium unit!

How wrong was I!?!?!?!

lol!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ncguy68:
I wonder if Apple's suit against the Galaxy Note 10.1 which is linked to how it will work with Jelly Bean has anything to do with the delay?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
It's not set to go to trial until 2014. By then there will be a Note 10.1 2 or 3.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] TheWerewolf:
We need a thread that's just a countdown to 31 Dec (the last date they can deliver the upgrade without breaking their word formally).

It would make New Year's Eve especially entertaining...

10! <tap - no update>

9! <tap - no update - wait - **** Clark is dead?>

8! <tap - no update>

7! <tap - no update>

6! <tap - damn, server timeout>

5! <tap - loooong pause... update!>

4! <downloading>

3! <reboot>

2! <installing.. installing>

1! <gnnnnnnnnnnn>

Happy New Year! <Ball in Time Square drops>

<reboot>

<Darn... the SPen is out of alignment...>
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
Be nice if all this wait brings an update with 4.2 instead haha.....I wish...=/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] ncguy68:
Jelly Bean 4.2 has caused a lot of issues for Nexus users. It might be a good thing Samsung is not rushing.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] samir_a:
No its not because if the Apple Suite if that was case no update would have been release and no we are not going to get 4.2 as we already have 4.1.1 updates rolling out and thats what we all will get
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Fensy:
Well that is pretty disappointing to hear. Samsung have been pushing the note10.1 here in the UK recently with a big advertising campaign, I really can't see why they would be updating older products first.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mitchellvii:
Um you guys are aware that the 8000 JB OTA'S being released already work just fine with some minor fixable glitches on everything else right?

I am running the 8000 OTA on my 8013 right now with zero problems.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] smrsxn:
Atleast i am aware... but not geek enough to take the plunge. I am not sure on what the consequenses may be and what could be done to fix them.

waiting for a legit release from samsung for my 8013... hence the pain seeing that a older model got update quicker than a newer model..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] XenomorphXx121:
They really know how to push our patience to the limit, this is meant to be their best tablet but it doesn't look like they think it is enough to give it priority.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stunno:
To be fair they have had longer to work on the tab upgrade
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] XenomorphXx121:
Yeah but they seemed to do fine updating their 3g versions
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] midas69:
I'm sure they've sold a lot more tabs than notes so I'm not surprised.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
I agree. People may also see that the tab 2 is a second generation of the tab and think it is the superior product. Not everyone is tech savvy. I personally think Samsung is prepping a Note 2 10.1 to be announced in January that'll come preloaded with Jelly Bean. We may not see an official JB until then.

That's what my money is on. They just don't care about existing customers.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] gpgalanis:
The Note 10.1 was introduced in August so there won't be another until next year. This is what Samsung does also with Galaxy S series, Note etc. Sorry for saying but there is no need to become paranoid due to the delay.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
Lol thanks. It does make me feel a little better. It's hard not to get paranoid with the way these corporations do business.

I had a choice to get this or the iPad 4. I've kinda sworn off Apple products and gone completely Android but for tablets I'm looking for what will make me happy but also last the longest with updates and such. I just hope I made the right decision lol.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] gpgalanis:
Don't worry. You (we) made the right choice.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mafia187:
I stoped giving a **** since I flashed "team union Rom n8000" on my 8010 no hickups at all at least the way I use the note.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
Yea, I'm using the German JB ROM, but an official update for my device would be nicer. -_-
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Lokks:
Here is the tweet reply I received from Samsung Canada

Samsung Mobile CAN ‏@SamsungMobileCA

@Socalokko Hi there! At the moment we don't have dates as to when the GALAXY Note 10.1 will be receiving Jelly Bean! We'll let you know!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xuanphucn:
**** You, samsung!:mad:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fards:
To wit the obvious reply would be a "can you ask someone who does, and then let us know?"
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Lokks:
I did so lets wait and see what the response is. Also it looks like the N8000 are getting the JB updates first, sammobile is showing a lot of different countries n8000 getting the JB update, nothing for n8013 or n8010.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] asdfuogh:
I wonder if there is any real difference, or if Samsung just wants to wait until it's closer to the holidays so they can "re-release" the Galaxy Note wifi as a new product with jellybean?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] mace242:
You must chill..... calm down and have a nice cup of tea.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
They probably would have done that by now with black Friday and cyber Monday.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] jonboyuk:
Maybe they are prepping the 8010 for JB 4.2? (lol)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] bmad7136:
Do you get the random reboots with this rom? Have to say setting the cpu to ondemand makes the tab almost intolerably laggy. If not did you flash the team union with odin?

Cheers
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Skizzy034:
I just got my Note 10.1 8013 yesterday and haven't had a reboot or any lag yet on jb.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] PapaDocta:
receiving the ota now for the N8010 wif note as i'm typing... a 441MB
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Pitiklin:
Is JB 4.1.1??
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] PapaDocta:
With the size of the update, I would believe it's jelly bean... I will flash now and report back

Edit :

Yes jelly bean it is
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Pitiklin:
wow!! fantastic news!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] zoomee:
Still no joy here in the UK mate :( - were you using stock LGC? location please too, thanks

I've checked both OTA and via Kies :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] sergiu84:
Would be nice.. please tell us where you are? Thank you!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Justinchi:
What region are u in??
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] PapaDocta:
bought it from China and flashed DBT firmware IMM76D.N8010XXALI3