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[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
optimus G2 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...photos-yet-and-it-has-bottom-firing-speakers/

i wonder if the next nexus will also be an LG :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] NexusF:
Nexus 4 beats every phone price wise. Perfomance and etc, debatable.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
If the Moto X comes out at the rumored price of 299, and it is running stock Android, I think it will be the end of the N4. A better battery, camera, and LTE for the same price will be hard to justify not picking the Moto X over the N4. But we will have to wait and see.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Didn't mean to thumb up lol.

What I was going to say: I don't think the Moto X coming out for around $299 would affect the Nexus 4(or future Nexus smartphone lineup) at all. Sure, the Moto X may come out with a cheap price, but it won't be a Nexus, with updates directly from Google.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Sure. But a phone that will be sold by all the big 4 carriers and the Play Store will be a huge seller. I don't think 99% of people care if the updates come from Google (plus Motorola is Google now). If it is stock, I think it will easily outsell the N4 if they are sold at the same price on the Play Store.
[Nexus 4 General] pnut22r:
You are both probably right. The moto x will be a phone aimed for the masses. The nexus devices will continue to be developer friendly phones from Google directly. So expect the moto x to be used lesser of a device than the next nexus. The next nexus may rival the other flagship with hardware. Something to keep in mind the "average" user, and I don't mean average xda person, or average person who likes electronics, but the "average" consumer, could care less about a 10 vs 13 mp camera. They buy what's popular and advertised. IPhones haven't always had the BEST specs hardware wise, but they are solid smooth devices. That's what matters with the moto x. Usability and marketability. Therefore, the nexus will continue to be our little secret gem.

Maybe I'm wrong
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
But I hope it will be like that.

Nexus is already an insider device here, and I think it will stay like that, and I like that.
[Nexus 4 General] Badgie:
Summary

So, basically, it's better than the cheaper ones and cheaper than the better ones.
[Nexus 4 General] erto90:
The only phone that made me to move from nexus4 has been the HTC One

Maybe im lucky, maybe you are unlucky, no a defect in the htc, is super in every aspects.

Nexus 4 was a brillant device, but this year HTC has won amost everywhere

Definitely, i think is the only one phone that can compare and wins against any phone

Pricewise, nexus 4 got the best price/performance, but n4 bugs can be intollerable for most ( "tac"sound even iin silent mode, wifi+bluetooth issue, crackling in some devices)
[Nexus 4 General] nviz22:
We will see a Snapdragon S4 Pro or 600 in the Moto X?
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
If they use the s4 pro, it'll be just another phone with wifi and bluetooth problems, woohoo
[Nexus 4 General] nviz22:
All S4 Pro phones have the same issue? I didn't hear about issues in the One X+.
[Nexus 4 General] Charles_l:
Some said it will be dual core chip, but I have seen the benchmark is so high in some leaked pictures.

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Moto X : Eric Schmidt and the Moto X

the new Motorola is becoming young and energetic.
[Nexus 4 General] ronakchavan:
Guys c d moto X in its full glory here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EKWvphCUeQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 General] anazhd:
Seriously? Motorola Moto X? With the back design looks like HTC one x/s and the front curve looks like Samsung devices.. But yeah only my two cents. It could be better. But in terms of everything, I think N4 is still winning. You know it's true.
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
I like how this guy doesn't show what android version it's running. Look at the lockscreen clock, it's not centered, also it has the moto clock widget, so it's not fully stock android obviously.

Man, if i had any unreleased device in my hands i would check every corner and test the hell out of it..
[Nexus 4 General] machoua:
Whoever is going to buy the moto x that currently owns the nexus 4 is plain stupid. The only rumors we know of is better battery and LTE. Has DUAL core, no 1080p. Its not that big of an upgrade. Smart people would just wait for the nexus 5.
[Nexus 4 General] Luigi_2:
true, only consider this x phone as a so so, normal day phone
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
Who thinks all those battery sucking software tricks can run on our nexus 4, but Google will not be bringing them over?

http://youtu.be/WCucvQ1VuOk
[Nexus 4 General] supermult:
I am sure google will bring this voice thing over in some form, but i´m pretty certain that we won´t get that screen notification system.

But who would want a blinking screen over a customizable led?
[Nexus 4 General] nviz22:
I will upgrade to the S4 myself though. I was interested in the Moto X, but I am hoping the specs aren't true and we see something along the liens of a flagship.
[Nexus 4 General] napyaninja:
I hate that boring design of moto x....love my sexy nexy 4

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So true
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Actually, it's rumored to have a quad-core processor(nearly identical, if not identical to the one in the Nexus 4), with a certain number of cores assigned to certain tasks; for example, the always on Google Now would be assigned to a low power core.

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The Moto X isn't meant to be a flagship device.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Not necessarily. The Moto x performs equally if not better than the nexus 4. Also the Moto X will have hardware customization like metal and wood, which can be a plus for people. Don't forget it is our right to spend money anyway, I don't judge others for buying every new iteration of a car nor those who drink their life's away at the bar only to later drive home and hit an unsuspecting civilian.
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
I'm going to wait for the Motorola flagship phone that comes out in October. Supposed to be top tier internals.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
My next device will have a battery that lasts more than a day... Well it looks like I'll be rocking my N4 until my balls sag down low.
[Nexus 4 General] norpan111:
I've heard note 2 have excellent battery, maybe consider razor maxx or whatever it's called

Skickat från min Nexus 4 med Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
I heard somewhere that Motorola was reading a phone with a battery that lasted 48 hours.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
I lobe this phone, but it is officially blown away buy the galaxy s4 lte-a (same as us gs4 but with 2.3ghz s800) but its only in Korea. Heck, the galaxy s4 us version is crushed by the s800 version

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] sorcio91:
How do you say about an exchange from my N4 to Xperia Z at 0 cost? The Z has greater value in money, so it's convenient in that sense...but for the rest? the 13mpx camera, the fullhd display and the waterproof factor makes it better than the N4? Is it faster in your opinion? I tried ones yesterday and it seemes very similiar.

Sorry for bad english :)
[Nexus 4 General] Noobven:
I've been looking to update my iPhone 3GS for a while now and I was wondering whether I should get the nexus 4. The only problem is I want a top of the line phone, however I don't want to pay 600+ for one. So basically is the nexus 4 worth the buy now or should I wait for something like the nexus 5(whatever the new nexus is going to be called) as its reaching a year old.
[Nexus 4 General] Stylez Ray.:
I bought an Oppo Find 5 just to find out what the fuzz was all about. I turned the **** on, was amazed by the screen, it's really great. Stock rom is ****, flashed some AOSP/CM10 roms and always felt like this phone doesn't satisfy me. Really, it felt like it was missing something...performance was not that good, smoothness was missing. 3 days later I ordered a Nexus 4 again and so I am sitting here again with my Mako and telling you there is no other phone like our Nexus. It just feels right and everything just works. PERIOD
[Nexus 4 General] anazhd:
So you sold your N4 for Oppo Find 5? And then rebuy N4?

Glad that I can get N4 with play store retail price here in Malaysia. Cheap and powerful device, the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] gabo_e30:
Nexus 4 or HTC droid DNA?

I am definitely not a fan of sense but the screen is better. Probably end up flashing a CM based ROM if I get it.
[Nexus 4 General] drakester09:
If you can't get a One, then the DNA wouldn't be such a large step forward if you already have a Nexus. Pretty much the screen is the largest plus.

In terms of raw power they are the same and you have a larger, hungrier screen with a slightly smaller battery capacity. That doesn't sound good to me.
[Nexus 4 General] Stylez Ray.:
Thats right. Thought the find 5 would be a nice tool to play with till the nexus 5 appears but it wasn't for me...

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 General] Mjtmaster:
Lg optimus l9 or nexus 4? I'm looking for smooth performance and good battery life (read my signature.)
[Nexus 4 General] drakester09:
Nexus 4 is a much better device in almost every spec. :)
[Nexus 4 General] onetik:
I have owned a lot of high-end phones over the past few years, and the Nexus 4 is perhaps the only phone for which I cannot see any viable upgrades. It is so good that nothing else in the market entices me much to upgrade. Finally a phone I am really happy to stick with. I have friends who use the XZ, GS3/4, HOX/One, iP5 etc. but the N4 still comes out as the best overall.
[Nexus 4 General] k3bo:
Nexus 4 or iPhone 4?

Hey xda-guys, I've a question.

I'm once again facing a really difficult decision.

I had the opportunity my refurbished iPhone 4 32gb black to exchange it for a 16GB Nexus 4 with bumper + headphones.

Is that smart?

I like iOS actually because everything is super smooth, except for complex games like NOVA 3, but no wonder the thing has a few years "under their belt".

In iOS I hardly even more customization and want to do with it (root, custom roms, etc.).

The display of the iPhone 4 is definitely too small for me, but then I've heard the display of the Nexus 4 is supposed to be pretty bad.

I would like to program, but at Apple mine is too expensive (plus I would have to learn a new programming language). With Android it would be the super easy (Java + Android SDK), but since the Play Store is not just so great, and also because if you ever receive a large number of downloads? So look like the latest news, most apps are downloaded only illegal anyway .. can you protect yourself against it?

Otherwise, I think the Nexus 4 is really great, but I don't know.

How is it now actually using the battery?

Since it is supposed to have been some problems.

I hope some of you can help me. Thanks for your help.

Best regards...

(sorry for the "bad" english, it's the bad translator. :P)
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
I love my n4 , but tbh the battery isn't that good, on 2g or wifi, I get about 4-5 hours screen on time, but with HSDPA or LTE I get 2-3 at max.

Sent from my Nexus 4 LTE @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
N4 > ip4 anyday... its miles faster

I have both.. .yes ios apps are very smoothed compared to some andre apps

Via my NeXus⁴ using Tapatalk² app
[Nexus 4 General] anazhd:
Swap it already. I sell my iPad 2 Wifi 3G 16GB to get this Nexus 4.

The only phone that I will buy to get rid this Nexus 4 is... The next Nexus flagship.

EOF.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
You stating one good point of N4 & then one bad point.You want to buy N4 but you dont want to leave IOS lol..

Never saw this much confusion before :D
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
My nexus 4 > your favorite phone :3
[Nexus 4 General] Stylez Ray.:
Nothing more to add :good:

I tried to upgrade but there is no competition.
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
What if my favorite phone is a nexus 4 :p
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
New motorolas are very tempting. Nexus 4 front, galaxy nexus back. Sexy!

Probably more powerful with the vanilla experience.

Looks like Google will beat the Google phone.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Odd thing is, the Moto X seems to be running on a dual-core CPU. Rumors/leaks had suggested a quad-core(like the one in the N4), but a recent leak suggests a dual-core with an adreno 320 GPU. Even with such specs, it has supposedly scored better in benchmarks than the N4. I know, benchmarks are usually pointless, but you have to admit the Moto X seems like a very good phone.
[Nexus 4 General] firespitta:
Thinking about getting the n4 to replace my shattered DNA... Has anyone else downgraded from a 1080p phone? I'm used to the average battery life so my choices are 1)repair the screen manually (risky) 150$ 2)pay for it to get fixed 300$ or. 3) buy n4 350$. Really like the nexus 4 but I feel like I wouldn't enjoy the screen bc I've been spoiled with the 1080p on the dna
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Oops, thanked your post by mistake :p

OK, can somebody tell me the difference between 720p and 1080p without looking through a magnifying glass? It's an overkill on small 5 inch devices, init?

Megapixels don't mean quality or clarity - it's a number game, and that's all. There really no use to having, say, 41 megapixels when all you may need is 5. It's quality that matters.

Coming back to the screen, is there any quality difference in the 1080p and 720p screens? I know HTC has gorgeous screens in general (ever since the One X) but... does the number of pixels matter?

It's just a numbers game and a marketing ploy, if you ask me. I've seen the SG4 and there rely no discernable surrender l difference to the naked eye... unless you have bionic eyes...

sent from my mini tractor
[Nexus 4 General] sahiljainblogger:
no doubt nexus 4 even i can suggest nexus 5 instead of iphone 5 :) i have used both of them
[Nexus 4 General] BlueFlame4:
whaaaah you created a black hole!!1!! Halp!
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
You can't possibly tell the difference between 720 and 1080 resolution on a 32 inch telly.

Don't worry you are not spoiled with the 1080p, you are just taken advantage of being an average joe.
[Nexus 4 General] -A-P-M-:
Google and Motorola put a lot efford to X phone, so I bet it will outperform N4 and will be very smooth. I guess it will be very well optimized. If it will lag, it will be huge faulire IMO. Iphone 5 is also dual core and we have to admit it is very smooth. I hope it will also have Kevlar body.
[Nexus 4 General] malikadnanm:
You can tell a difference between 1080p and 720p on the HTC vs nexus 4. These guys don't know what they're talking about. I have a One and Nexus 4. Everything's a lot sharper and clearer on HTC. Of course the difference isn't huge but it's there.
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
The screen is certainly better on the one, but I'm not sure how much of that is the resolution. How much better is the one screen versus the one x for example?
[Nexus 4 General] Hcortes42:
Nexus 4

Nexus 4 is a great pH. I can't stand the small screen of the so called "popular" iphones. N on top of that every single app must be purchased.
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
Not every app is paid on iOS, just as not every android app is free. There are more free android apps but that is probably mostly because apple charges you to have a developer account, which is needed to release apps ($99/yr). And also, I don't think anyone can dispute that the iPhone is popular. It has a very high market share and people love it. I personally don't, it's very over hyped, simplistic, and closed.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
It's changing slowly. More and more apps are paid on android, apart from indie developers. More and more apps utilise IAP, which I personally hate. Even worse when app is paid and then you need to use IAP to make it usable.

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
well this looks nice http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...minimalist-user-interface-and-swipe-gestures/
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
This is year 2013 iPhone market share worldwide is in fast decline android is almost double of iOS now
[Nexus 4 General] RoChinu:
That's no wonder considering the amount of Android sets available. On the opposite, Apple just has a few models which are quite expensive and not affordable for many. The only Android phone which comes near iPhone's sales rates is the Samsung Galaxy flagship line. Not saying that HTC, LG, Sony can't sell their flagships but they certainly don't come close. The majority of the world runs on an older Android version like Gingerbread and in general are the low budget or mid range phones. iPhone still to date is popular and I think it's a pretty good phone but not worth the price. Apple seemingly just made one mistake and that's by not pumping up the iPhone 5's specs or new features. Many people still buy the 4S because it's cheaper and they view their specs as practically the same.
[Nexus 4 General] Brom2:
What do you think about the Ubuntu Edge? It'll have great specs and will be able to boot android too. Only the price is a little higher.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One S mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
You can't even tell the difference between 720 and 4000p on a 5 inch screen.

Please accept the fact that you are not an eagle.
[Nexus 4 General] malikadnanm:
I'm sorry I'm not blind like you. Or maybe you hold your phone 2 feet away from your face.
[Nexus 4 General] gabo_e30:
Verizon wireless sent out an email with the new droid line today. Maxx ultra and mini all by moto.
[Nexus 4 General] firespitta:
Lmao the closest I've seen to a 720p screen is my sisters gs3 (not sure if its 720 or not) but I can certainly tell a difference from hers and my DNA... I was just wondering because when I watch reviews of the nexus 4, the screen is one of the last things they mention (if they mention it at all), while phones like the htc one and the DNA, the screen is one of the first things they mention. Didn't realize that my question would offend anyone and have them call me an "average Joe".
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Nexus 4 sucks , gnex FTW
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
:rolleyes:

Lol I hope that was a joke
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Ypi still can't compare amoled with the nexus 4 because amoled, inherently, is more blurry and fuzzy (at the same DPI) than IPS.

So, comparing your screens to the S4 is not fair competition.

sent from my mini tractor
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
This phone with 32gb or SD card would've been perfect. Sadly, I think I'll go with the s5 when it comes out next summer because it looks like Samsung is the only one keeping sd slots.
[Nexus 4 General] donwhall70:
N4 with 32GB and a 3000+ mAh battery would be perfect for me.
[Nexus 4 General] musashihatred:
I dont really mind SGS3 or DNA or M7 Blow N4's Screen.

but im sure i really love the screen of it. since its my first on IPS and always been on AMOLED.

plus,

I put my N4 side by side with iphone5, YEAH. i know the answer.
[Nexus 4 General] gd6noob:
There is no comparison.. N4 is aimed for mid ranged users... if you dont need the best of everything, N4 cant be beat... if your looking for the best camera, screen and so on.. move onto a $600+ phone...
[Nexus 4 General] UZ7:
Yep, tested out my bro's HTC One GE... picture quality is dang good :good: on the other hand he paid $600 for it lol... but he said hes glad to be back on android as he was stuck with his iphone 5 as his backup phone when he lost his N4.

I think the MotoX is a good phone if priced right. Pretty sure like 90% of the people out there don't know whats inside their phone (specs) and/or even use the power of it. Sure benchmarks will give you e-peen if you have 20 cores or super power hungry gpu but at the end of the day most average users use the phone for.. calling/texting/taking pictures/browsing/email/caming etc... and you dont need a quad core for that (and there are a lot of people out there who QQ about battery life). So if you take the N4's power, cut it in a half, over clocked it, add LTE and other features and tweaks.. the MotoX can be a good phone.
[Nexus 4 General] illr:
I actually had a HTC One traded plus cash for a n4 a few months later bought another HTC One..... Sold that and came back to a n4.... The n4 overall a great phone. The screen on the HTC One screen is nice and really not that much of a big deal except video playback quality. Your eyes will adjust from a 1080p to 720p quickly. And main deal breaker was the development for the HTC One wasn't as grand as the n4. Straight trade for a unopened white 16g plus white bumper for my HTC One.... Deal! I love my n4 and will be keeping it for a while.
[Nexus 4 General] cipherbreak:
After 4.3, I am completely happy with this device. The new Bluetooth stack with AVRCP 1.3+ works nicely with my BWM iDrive system.
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
Im sick of people mentioning the GS4 and HTC ONE,..so many choices out there, the MOTO X is good but, that offcontract price and att only color options is gonna be dumber than Movie 43
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
The moto thing is only for now it will not be att exclusive for long
[Nexus 4 General] dittu123:
Galaxy S3 vs Nexus.

Hello everyone. First post here in XDA! Switching over from an Iphone 4 to an android based device...and it comes down to the Samsung Galaxy S3, and the Google Nexus 4.

Before I ask my query, please note 2 things, 1. GS3 and Nexus 4 cost the same where I live, and 2. Nexus 4 is something of a rarity here, so when it comes time to sell the phone (I generally keep phones for 10 months) it will be much more easier and profitable to sell the GS3 over the Nexus, and 3. I have used the GS3 alot, never used the Nexus 4 though. Anyway, here are my questions.

1. Performance: Obviously due to better specs, the nexus 4 is faster, but with custom ROMs, can the TW GS3 match the speed and UI responsiveness of the Nexus? Because it was very laggy on stock TW JB. And I detest lag!

2. Screen: I was an owner of GS2 and the HTC One X...so am a bit spoilt when it comes to screens! GS3 Super AMOLED screen is fantastic (though a little grainy compared to One X), but what about the Nexus? TechRadar says it has the best screen around, while GSMarena says its colors are undersaturated and dull, although sharp. Can the screen be calibrated and "tweaked" better, and if so, can it be as good as the One X?

3Gaming: The Nexus is superior on paper, but what about real world performance+optimizations? Also I read on XDA it has a thermal throttling issue. How much of a difference in gaming in say, Real Racing 3 or Modern Combat 4?

4. Video: The GS3 had an awesome camera, and the Nexus has an Ok camera for snapshots too. What about video recording? I believe the Nexus 4 can be modded to have 17MB bitrate, is the video quality good with a smooth framerate like the S3? (very important factor for me).

As for other things like looks, storage, battery...doesnt matter much as the 4 things listed above. Thanks in advance for taking the time to reply to my post! :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
1.No nexus 4 is simply better and snappier.

2.Yes the screen can be tweaked

3.With 4.3 and open gl 3.0 gaming is better on the nexus 4.

4.I don't know about that I don't take a lot of videos.

And listen the nexus has 4.3 and will get 5.0 or what ever the next version is but the s3 simply won't. Think about that