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[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
Anything with an S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 (and to some degree the iPhone 5) is a big step ahead of the S III in my mind. By the time the HTC One is out that should be pretty much all the big smartphone manufacturers. All those devices have way more powerful GPUs, and all use new CPU architectures. But the S III does run very well considering its limited resources. Still, the Xperia Z and the HTC one pretty much obliterate it:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887p5.php

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-benchmark-scores-are-here-ready-to-blow-your-mind/

(The only exception is sunspider, which for some reason doesn't seem to run very well on android devices using quallcomm chips.)

Also they can make the device smaller, since most of the 1080p devices have larger screens, and we get the extra wide aspect ratio.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Well that's how it usually works. Newer technologies are more powerful. When you say S3 competitors, I mainly think of the One X, Iphone 5, Lumia 920, 8x, that generation. The S3 is a better package than all of them and has sold much more in exception of the Iphone. Of course the HTC one, XpEria Z are more powerful, they are this year flagship devices. You should compare them with the upcoming galaxy s IV when it comes out. The fact that you even compare the S3 to these phones proves that it's a great devices of its own ( just saying :rolleyes: )

Ps: Nexus 4 and optimus g are more powerful than the S3 yes.
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
I said the S III is currently being monstered, not that it has been throughout it's lifetime, and I said so because it means that they needed to bring out an update now, rather than wait, which was the alternative.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Yeah true, but it's still sells relatively well and I think it still will after the S IV is released (which shouldn't be too long now).
[Nexus 4 General] Patrick2205:
Coming from Samsung Nexus S to Nexus 4 and really like it so much :) No more stuttering when a few apps are installed :)

I do not care about Headphone Jack on top or bottom like some others here. Everything is great :)
[Nexus 4 General] Kawaisa:
Well after using the N4 for a few days, I'll have to be going back to the N2 as my main device. The Nexus' screen is nice and it's a beautiful device in terms of aesthetics but I just miss getting 6 hours of screen time.
[Nexus 4 General] gotjazz:
AW: [DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

While of course six hours are great I sometimes wonder who has the time to use their phone for that amount of time anyway....
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
The first tegra 4 benchmarks are out, nVidia delivers. I doubt the snapdragon 800 will be able to keep up with that, and even the exynos 5 octa will struggle to match that GPU. My guess is Tegra 4 phones are probably not going to show up until the second half of this year, though.
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
I doubt a tegra 4 phone will show up at all this year. They said the 4i phones will come out late this year.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I've gotten five and a half on my nexus 4, on Wi-Fi and with a custom kernel. I know what you mean though, apart from the large battery in that phone Samsung are really getting good at making battery life stretch. Hence why I'm using a galaxy s3 right now.
[Nexus 4 General] Dannyada1988:
The main strength of Nexus 4 is that it is cheap but with high quality.And at present, you cannot find one which is cheap but with the same performance with nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] jtwlbz:
coming from htc one x, won't buy htc again. poor build quality + stupid s-on. screen is nice though.
[Nexus 4 General] Zacorias:
Coming from an iphone 3gs my nexus 4 just feels so much more powerful. The 3gs would get laggy if too many apps were running. I have yet to experience this kind of lag with the nexus 4. The camera and screen are also huge improvements.
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
+1

But the N4 screen is as good as the OneX screen. Just flash the ParanoidAndroid kernel with better screen calibration..

It's just the viewingangles, where the OneX is the king
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
That's not entirely true. Over here in New Zealand the Nexus 4 retails at around about the same price as the Galaxy S3.

Sure it's still possible to get the Nexus 4 from the play store and shipped over here but if it turns it to be faulty it's much harder to deal with than buying it from a local retailer. The buyer has a lot of protection under consumer law here and to me it seems much better to pay the premium and have the peace of mind you are protected from faults.

Even in the United States availability has been patchy leading to price gouging by third party resellers.

Even though I love my Nexus I'd hesitate to recommend one over an S3 to any of my friends given that they are the same price. The reality is that the S3 is a better overall experience for the average consumer. If the Nexus were $200nzd cheaper I'd be much more inclined to recommend the Nexus over the S3 especially for a first time Android user.
[Nexus 4 General] mark_d87:
beating every other phone!

here in italy tough is not sold i used every contact i had in germany to buy it :D and loving it :cowboy: no s3 can withstand near it :D
[Nexus 4 General] biffsmash:
For me the Nexus 4 has been excellent. I'm still searching for the perfect phone though.

When I buy a phone near looking for good camera, good loud clear sound quality, fast lag free experience, good screen, etc.

There is always something that let's the phone down. On the Nexus its googles rediculous Wifi bug as well as iffy camera software as well as low music volume through headphones that let's this down, although its pretty near the perfection I'm after.

As for my upgrade, I was thinking of Xperia Z but iffy screen, iffy speaker and earpiece volume and underwhelming camera as well as lag, has turnede off that phone.

The other option is the new HTC one although it is the camera that will probably let it down although aside from the camera it should be pretty near perfect (for me that is)
[Nexus 4 General] fatum2002:
Here is what i can tell about nexus in comparison with xperia Ion:

1. Ion has better screen for sure. I'm using PA color settings on Nexus 4 and it is still worse than on Ion.

2. Sound from headphones is better in Ion

3. Ion doesn't have any background noise in speaker, my Nexus 4 has it and I can hear it.

4. Ion doesn't make any noise when you put it on a table. My Nexus 4 does make this noise.

5. Camera in Ion is slightly better than in nexus, but just a little.

6. Nexus 4 is much faster and smoother in interface.

I was expecting more from Google phone. Sad, but true :( However, I still use my Nexus 4 as a primary phone - I like smooth interface of 4.2.2 a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] edvedder:
How much better is the Nexus 4 in comparison to Galaxy Nexus?
[Nexus 4 General] cutiedoggy:
Been using nexus 4 for a month now, pretty impressed coming from an s3.

Now in a dilemma to get xperia z or not..
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
The Nexus 4 is faster, has better battery life, a (slightly) better camera and a louder speaker..
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
And a much better non-pentile display IMHO.

I think the Nexus 4 can actually drain battery more quickly if you use it heavily due to the peak power consumption of the S4 Pro. The TI chipset doesn't consume nearly as much power at full throttle. I got great battery life with my Galaxy Nexus on Franco.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr_Comple:
i sold my galaxy nexus before a month,in order to take a nexus 4...ok understand nexus 4 is better in all aspects, but for me galaxy nexus is the phone...!:cool:

i dont mind the 5mp,i dont mind the amoled screen ,i dont mind at all...! i loved this phone with the most of my heart..:good:
[Nexus 4 General] PawleysJim:
Here's my problem. I live in a known weak signal area and am currently using my SG4G and Wi-Fi callling to make calls. There have been posts on not only on XDA but T-Mo's suport site as well saying that Wi-Fi is either broken or non-existent.

Today in 3 different conversations 3 different T-Mo reps says that it does work if they turn it on @ T-mo. A number of articles also state that with an upgraded sim Wi-Fi calling works. I guess the only way to really know is to get one and find out for myself.
[Nexus 4 General] CiViCKiDD:
I'll always take a Nexus over any other phone. Seriously, why buy an Android phone that doesn't receive timely updates from Google?

I like keeping my phones for at least 2-3 years, and custom roms are rarely 100% perfect.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Do you think all phones should be nexuses? ( nexi)?
[Nexus 4 General] sk8oldschool74:
No just the best ones are Nexus!!! :D:D:D

(Galatians 1:3-5)
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Storage space, battery life, data speeds, camera, fm radio, removable battery would be the main reasons since you asked.

I still love my Nexus, but on Monday I was issued with an S3 from work. I must say I've really missed some of the above benefits.

Samsung aren't too bad with the updates to be honest even the S2 has recently gotten official jellybean. Sure it's a few months late but the point is they did it.

There are disadvantages to being the first to get the updates too you know. Samsung had a few months to iron out the bugs before releasing their update for one. The other disadvantage is that if you grab the latest nexus update straight away it may break some of your apps and you'll be stuck waiting for the developer to update them.

The Nexus is a great device but it's no more or less perfect than any other phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
lol? The HTC One camera is the best I ever saw, what are you talking about?

Did you even read what this ultrapixel thingy is? xD

For me, the One won't be because it's HTC. It will be S-ON agaaiiiin. I'm too pissed about that.
[Nexus 4 General] laffer98:
Poll

I think we need to add a poll to this post to see how owners of the nexus 4 like this phone compared to there old ones.
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
I think thats a great Idea. Coming from a G2x you already know where my vote is going :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Vorshim92:
Nexus 4 is the best!
[Nexus 4 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
I love the fact that Nexus get updates first, but I really want that HTC one. I'm thinking of keeping my nexus as a backup for updates.
[Nexus 4 General] Ieatnoobs:
I bought a IPhone 5 last night (coming from a Galaxy Nexus) and I just put in an order for a Nexus 4.

I honestly feel the Nexus brand offers a unique experience you cant find anywhere else.

Putting my IPhone 5 on ebay later this week.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
That's what I'm gonna do, Although I'll be going for the Samsung Galaxy S IV.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
What do you hope to gain from "upgrading" from the Nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Maybe come late spring / early summer after the next generation has been released by all the different vendors

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Better battery life (although I have to hand it to mathkid, his matrix kernel is amazing), better screen, more than 8 gig of storage, touchwiz ( that I like with its features) better sound quality and volume, bigger screen.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
I don't like the rounded edgesof our nex4. Optimus GT or whatever it's called still looking sexier then n4

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[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Nexus 4 is about the sexiest Android out in my opinion. Just too sexy, pity it's also about the most fragile Android out.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
I take it we have a basis for the assumption the S4 will have better battery life; can the S3 do 6-7 hours screen on then? Admittedly, my N4 is undervolted but it has the best battery life of any Android phone I've ever used... I refuse to use a Motorola to get better battery life. Lol.

Everything else is personal, but I can't stand TouchWiz' seemingly random colour palette. Then, I used CM on a Sense device so I clearly don't like reworked Android at all. Actually, my real issue with Samsung is that I don't really trust a company who've now made two generations of their flagship product with fatal eMMC brick bugs... Okay, they did eventually fix them (with debatable patches) but shouldn't they have fixed the hardware bug with their eMMC chips somewhere between the S2 and the Note, let alone the S3. For Note 2s to be bricking tells me they have zero quality control and inadequate testing.
[Nexus 4 General] biffsmash:
Well after lots and lots of ROM and kernel installing and attempting to get the camera and the audio up to scratch on the Nexus 4 I've come to the conclusion that if you want the fastest smoothest android on the market, use a stock kernel with either the stock ROM or a good custom ROM, and if you want the best battery life of most android, use custom kernel with battery saving adjustments, but that you can't get the audio or the camera to anywhere near the level you'd need to use the Nexus as a Phone/camera/media player.

Before anyone tells me to get a camera or something, i have one, but of course i don't want to carry it around everywhere with me.

This weekend, I'm going to a birthday party and will spend the night in a club and i have absolutely no chance of getting even 1 decent photo off my phone to remember the night out as the low light capabilities of this phone are absolutely shocking.

Without the ability to turn off auto focus, they will all turn out out of focus and blurry.

So i have two choices, tomorrow i can get the xperia z and i will probably be able to get some use able shots thanks to focusing options, or i can take my camera and wait two weeks to get the HTC One .

The Nexus line aren't up to scratch for the mainstream user yet. Most people i know who don't root phones struggle with the battery life on theirs and of course the music and camera quality are also far below whats expected of main stream phones these days.

I've loved the nexus for super fast lag free android, but the super slow WiFi and 3g as well as data connection drops and awful multi media capabilities of the phone mean it is purely a developers phone after all .
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
The s3 has comparable battery life to the N4 actually. Depending on what you are doing with your phone the numbers will lean towards one or the other but overall the numbers will be quite similiar.

The S3 has one huge advantage over the Nexus when it comes to battery. You can buy a spare battery and when it gets flat you can just pull out the old one and stick a fresh one in. An s3 battery is only a small thing to carry around too.

If the Nexus goes flat while you're out you're screwed. Only option is one of those external batteries which iPhone users rely on. Sure you can keep the phone going but you have to deal with a brick hanging out of your phone's arse for a couple of hours while it charges. It's cumbersome and annoying.
[Nexus 4 General] MickyMax:
How performs the Nexus 4 vs HTC One X in terms of battery life and reception quality?

I think the camera quality is very similar...
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
Batterylife is just a bit better, reception is also better. i get kore hspa+ than i used to with my OneX.

The camera though is uber crappy compared to the OneX

Sent from my Nexus7.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
A bit better? Erm, I wouldn't say a bit - you can count on double the battery life (screen on) with similarly epic standby time to the HOX going by my experience.

6-7 hours seems routine for my N4 (although that is on WiFi, not mobile data), I hit 4 hours a couple of times on my One X, but typically it was more like 2:30-3:30 hours. I think with Tegra 3, standby life is great, but screen-on life depends how much of your usage falls within the realms of the LP core's capabilities, whereas the battery life for general use on the S4 Pro seems a lot less variable (I don't know about heavy gaming though, generally if I play games on Android, it's on my N7.)

The Nexus 4 seems to pick up signal for me in all the places the HOX did (although it usually reports a slightly lower signal, but RSSI isn't comparable between different basebands anyway...) but, of course with the DC-HSPA, it's a lot faster when the signal is good if your network supports it.

The camera on the N4 doesn't even begin to compare to the One X or even my partner's GS2, but given that I have two cameras with APS-C sensors and a lot of lovely lenses to jam on the front, I don't really have a great deal of demand for mobile photos unless I'm taking a photo of a document I can't be bothered to scan :laugh: I don't even use my little compact digital camera very much...

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I've never needed the facility to swap batteries, as usually even when I'm away from home for a while, my car is with me (I suppose that really is an oversized battery pack for my phone :D) Obviously, non-removable batteries are a dealbreaker for some people's needs, but it seems to be the way higher end devices are going. If I get the choice between a creaky phone (like my Atrix) and hiving a permanently attatched, non-flimsy back cover, I'll take the latter. Although I'd prefer it not to be made of glass. I can't say I'm a fan of the bendiness/awkward removal of Samsung battery covers, but at least they don't seem to creak.

*sigh* The One X really is my favourite chassis from any phone I've encountered lately, why can't HTC make a Nexus again...? It's the only way I'd buy another device made by them!
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
You do have a point with the Exynos issues, and I would hate to have my galaxy s bricked for that reason. Samsung messed up theres no question about it. But I expect them to learn from that and to not let that happen again.

As far as battery life goes, the Galaxy S3 has better battery life than the nexus 4, that's a fact. Obviously, once you do custom kernels, undervolting, underclocking, low usage blahblahblah then things change. But I was getting 5:30 hours if on screen time without any tweaks on my S3, and it is known that the N4 has below average battery life without all the tweaks. With that taken into consideration, I can't imagine the Galaxy S IV having worse battery life than the S3. So if the S3 has better battery life than the N4, and the S IV will (most likely) have better battery life than the S3, the S4 will have better battery than the N4 no?

http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-battery-test-is-ready-does-very-well/

http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-nex...test-see-if-its-better-than-the-galaxy-nexus/
[Nexus 4 General] Ieatnoobs:
I would appreciate if someone can comment on this question.

I currently have a Galaxy Nexus and an IPhone 5. The screen on the iPhone is absolutely great. I know the n4 also issues IPS panels but my question is how does the n4 compare to the iPhone screen wise?
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
The iphone 5 has an overall slightly better screen. Much better colors, although there's a kernel fix that greatly improve the nexus 4 colors but still the iPhone 5 has better colors. The nexus 4 does have a very sharp screen though, text looks super crisp, i think even sharper than the iphone screen.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Having an iPhone means you`re sentenced to iSheep conformism and stripped of all your freedom and rights to be able to change anything. No widgets, no custom kernel, no custom rom`s, no oc/uv, color- and sound control. I would be boared to death and realy unhappy if i at least woulldn`t have the option to do those things. The screen btw is very crisp and the colors are beautiful and vibrant if you flash a custom kernel and tweak the colors to your liking.
[Nexus 4 General] Chrissyboy101:
I think that non-expandable storage is a deal-breaker. Well, unless you use online streaming for your media and have a contract with lots of data.

I have an ZTE V970m, which is no nexus 4 killer, but I think that the ZTE grand s will take the Nexus 4 out for a nice seafood dinner then never call her again! Definitely one to look out for, if they improve the battery.

CPU: Quad-core 1.7 GHz

13 MP camera LED flash

Card slot: microSD, up to 32 GB

Internal: 16 GB storage, 2 GB RAM

screen:1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.0 inches (~441 ppi pixel density)

DAT PPI ^^
[Nexus 4 General] smooth3d:
The ZTE grand is a farce! It does not have a Snapdragon 800.It has at most a Snapdragon 600 or most likely a S4 Pro!
[Nexus 4 General] justFaisal:
Have you not seen the htc one? That thing is SEX SIII.....
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
Well, I don't feel such a difference in batterylife.. really :/

I like the n4 chassis more than from the OneX, but i totaly +1 that HTC should make another nexus.

The n1 was so amazing
[Nexus 4 General] esgaluial:
AW: [DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

Yeah would be nice...

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] phreak24:
I received my Nexus 4 16G from Google a couple of days ago. What can I tell you so far...? This phone is amazing - it's very well designed in almost any possible aspect, built with high precision, the screen is excellent and overall Nexus 4 looks as 'upscale' as iPhone. What a surprise! Bravo LG and Google! Needless to say, Galaxy Nexus I used before and hated with passion went straight into the garbage. I will never buy any Samsung product ever again!

Strangely, because the phone is so good, Android OS feels pretty much as user friendly and stable as iOS. I never thought hardware could mean so much in overall experience with OS. Nexus 4 is definitely the first Android phone which can be considered as a serious competitor to iPhone. And that's the first time I don't have any regrets for having to switch from iPhone to Android (my cellular provider Wind Mobile Canada does not support iPhone frequencies).

There is only one flaw I've noticed - the speaker is located on the back panel and is somewhat muted if phone is placed on any surface face up. The speaker itself is very loud and looks nice on the back panel - but the location is not the best from practical point of view. But I'm so much in love with this phone, that I'm ready to live with it. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
I can +1 everything.

This phone feels so extremely good and is so insanely smoother than all other droids I used (I used really many droids) that I just don't care about the crappy camera and the limited storage.

Because it feels so cheap, like all other samsung devices.

Samsung has so good tech, but the phones feel so cheap, it's a horrible waste.

The galaxy nexus was a really nice device. it was almost as smooth as the nexus4 and hardware was decent.

But it felt like a plastic toy wich would break next time i put it into a bag.

I have the same feeling with all samsung phones. It's so sad.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
I recommend doing a drop test between the N4 and Nexus.

Sent from XDA app
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Lol at droid
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
Well, good luck if you ever drop the Nexus 4. I've dropped the Galaxy Nexus at least half a dozen times (once down a small flight of stairs) with nothing but a thin TPU case and it remained flawless. It bounces. The Nexus 4 breaks.

In an ideal world we would all be blessed with HTC build quality.
[Nexus 4 General] theguitarman94:
I wish HTC made the next nexus device. Their build quality is fantastic and it's getting better. My one s was a really premium feeling device and the new HTC One looks even nicer. I wonder if they were asked to make a nexus in the past but refused (after the nexus one obviously)
[Nexus 4 General] falcon26:
I will say this about the camera on the Nexus 4, it sucks big time. My Old S2 takes pictures way way way better than the Nexus 4. My sisters HTC One X also blows the Nexus 4 away. I know the Nexus 4 is 8 meg pixel camera but its certainly doesn't seem like it. Its more like 3 meg pixel
[Nexus 4 General] Smeghead_:
I think for the price, it's one of the best value phones available, even with the HTC One and I'm guessing it will easily match the S4 in day-to-day performance (i.e. not some useless benchmark which shows nothing, since we don't go around running benchmarks on our phones all day).