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[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I'm keeping N4 for a few years, or until there is a Nexus with a better camera and i have the money at that time. I miss camera on Sensation i sold, 2 years old and still miles better than N4.

HTC One. Don't trust is, as dr said above, they will see sales drop and instead of spending more on the marketing they will spend on One+ that will be forgotten half a year later.

Samsung is "i have it all" device, and seems like a good option, but it's just too expensive. Prices should go down as tech is getting cheaper, not follow Apple's model and keep it sky high.

Neither of the above are a real upgrade from N4 unless you specifically need more storage.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
The HTC One will probably ship S-On which should instantly put it out of the running for any serious Nexus 4 owner.
[Nexus 4 General] punyategar:
Htc1 ui looks like win8.
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
I, as well, prefer the jack on top but I do have 2 draw backs from that location.

1. Its a natural motion to put your phone I'm your pocket upside down when using the hand on the same side of the body as your pocket. When listening to music this can become awkward for some people.

2. When listening to music in the car while having your phone plugged into a charger you now have cords coming off both sides of the phone. Again this can be awkward some people.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] morejaylesswar:
That makes perfect sense. I'm sitting here thinking and I just realized that I've made adjustments by putting my phone into my pocket right-side-up so that I can have a little more room with my headphone wiring. I'm 6'8", so the cords are always too short when my device is in my pocket. I've always put it in so that the top is up just to have a little more play in the cord. That extra 4 inches is a lifesaver, lol.

I'm also a cord freak. I like for all of them to be nice and neat. I see how having the jack at the bottom would keep them in order if your phone is charging and plugged into your car stereo via an aux cable. When mine is plugged up, it does look like some sort of life support system, LOL!

Man, it's weird that I never thought of it any other way than how it's always been. I'm sheepish right now. I guess that's why I've owned an iPhone for so long. Geez.
[Nexus 4 General] jtc276:
Does anyone have a Lumia 920 that they can briefly compare the Nexus 4 to? It was the only other phone I was seriously considering over the Nexus 4. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
YouTube my friend
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
a good friend of mine has it and I've played with it. It's an amazing phone, it's a little heavy and bulky but not too much. When I saw the screen it did put a huge smile on my face cause it looks so good, it's almost a blend of super Amoled colors and deep blacks with IPS clarity and brightness. it's super smooth and the camera is the best. As far as OS it's windows 8 so android is still better but I wouldn't mind giving it a shot. My friend loves his and he is a big android rooter (is that even a word? ) LMAO
[Nexus 4 General] sublimespot:
When I originally bought the nexus 4 the only thing that worried me what all the negative talk about the battery.

But I have had no problem making my battery last a full day, and I use my phone quite a bit through the day, as for everything else I'm coming from a Samsung galaxy s 4g.........so most everything is a major upgrade.

The galaxy SIII was considered but it was the build quality that was the thing that really the deciding factor in the end.
[Nexus 4 General] Motogp1:
I have an S3 & S3lte be interesting to compare them with the nexus 4 when it arrives, the S3 has improved so much in most areas after jelly bean update so it should be a good fight.

I'm not one of these people that slags of another brand just because I don't have it, bottom line is if it's good then it's good no matter who makes it, Samsung, htc, LG, ect. Roll on 1-2 weeks :)
[Nexus 4 General] the_r2d2:
I have had the n4 for a week now, and have been using the Monthly4G from TMo... in NYC HSPA+ & LTE are equally fast in my comparison.

Don't care about the location of headphone jack, Bluetooth in car so not worried about protruding wires everywhere...

Pros:

- I love this phone, so buttery smooth...

- Got the bumper so not worried about dropping it (doesn't mean I will be reckless with it)

Cons

- Battery drains fast

- Battery does get hot after a couple hours of use (surf web, play some games, watch some youtube)

Overall, having a good experience with this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] junglebungle:
I wouldn't say it was the best camera, it's not as good as others on the market.

The blacks aren't no where near as great as AMOLED either..

But still, It's an amazing phone, and I can't wait to get mine, My S3 is going up for sale.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
the blacks are close to Amoled, not as black but it's the closest thing in the market. Also the camera is the best, beating the S3 and the iPhone 5 cameras. yes it's a fantastic phone, I'm debating selling this iPhone 5 for it.... in a few weeks maybe lol
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
I disagree. The Lumia 920 takes better pictures AT NIGHT. However, my One X takes much sharper photos in the daytime hours. Lumia 920 always leaves a soft, bland look in daytime photos. (Yes you can edit them to make them look better but thats not the same as a straight shot from an S3/OneX/i5)
[Nexus 4 General] maxspen:
Great Phone

Best phone i've ever owned hands down. Granted i'm kind of an android fanatic, but still a great phone. Compared to an SGSII, HTC EVO 4g, OG Droid... not the most comparable devices i acknowledge. But i will say this... my buddy who's an iPhone nut switched over to the side of good for this phone and he loves it. Enough said!
[Nexus 4 General] fakhrulfaris:
I WANT TO BUY IT!!!! WHEN IT WILL BE RELEASED IN MALAYSIA AND HOW MUCH IS THE PRICE??? :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] mario_1603:
I have a doubt, I dont know which one buy, galaxy s3 or nexus 4? help please
[Nexus 4 General] iCalculate:
I'd go with the Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] il buono:
I have to disagree with this. Both the GS3 and iPhone 5 consistently take better pics than the Nexus 4. Both outperform the Nexus 4 in low-light and day photos. The Nexus 4 does have a decent camera and with some quick editing it can be the same quality as those two devices. I love both my Nexus 4 and iPhone 5 though. I got rid of the GS3 since I got tired of touchwiz. It had one bada** camera though.

It depends what you're looking for in a device:

Touchwiz vs Stock Android

Decent software update schedule vs Latest and greatest

Great camera vs decent camera :D

Plastic device vs great looking glass/fragile device

Removable battery vs non-removable battery

Expandable storage vs You get what you get

You can get it now vs Having to wait a while

...
[Nexus 4 General] G1_enthusiast:
People asking whether if they should upgrade or not, you need to ask yourself that question, no one knows what you do with your phone. if you use more than 16gb than you better not get the nexus 4 or else you will regret it, if you use extended battery than you better not upgrade, if you cant flash rom and hate touchwiz and sense than upgrade...dont ask other people to chime in on what to do with your money...how dumb is that?
[Nexus 4 General] imeem:
if your 3.5 mm jack is straight and not a L shape, it puts more pressure on the wire when you hold the phone rightside up. I also like my headphone jack on the bottom because of this.
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
If you can get one.
[Nexus 4 General] ant178:
Nexus 4 has great hardware and software, camera is lacking compared to most current phones. All newer phones will have better hardware, its practically a fact ex. Sony Xperia Z, HTC one. Nexus 4 will be doing amazing in the software department for some time compared to almost all other phones though, the Galaxy Nexus is still a very good phone due to all the updates, it also has great devs.

This thread is kinda silly as a choice of cellphone is a preference. If you can feel fine with settling for a specific version of android then maybe upgrading sometime soon might be for you. When the nexus 4 was released it had bleeding edge hardware but its wasn't all there. OTG, external storage, limited number of carriers (not too great on ATT), camera is crap, all are the downside of owning this device and can be found pretty easily in other phones in the same class. It's all preference.
[Nexus 4 General] pongalong:
If the next Nexus it's still limited to 16gb I'll jump to something else. The One looks very promising.
[Nexus 4 General] s3rv1cet3ch:
I haven't seen a better phone yet. Very satisfied. I've had alot of phones and this is the cream of the crop. Only complaint is that the signal is easier to lose than than my Galaxy Nexus was.
[Nexus 4 General] bogdan_wrc:
i really hope that the rumored Nexus 5 will be made in partnership with Motorola and Intel. and will have the battery from MAXX phones. this will really be great.
[Nexus 4 General] ksubedi:
Fragmentation is such a big issue on most android phones (not nexus obviously). Google should let manufacturers make their own phone which they can submit to google to get it nexus approved. If the phone is approved, then google can send updates to the phone themselves. I don't know how likely this is to happen, but i dont think fixing fragmentation is going to be a easy thing for google.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
That's not gonna happen because there are too many factors that affect updates. It's not like an iPhone that is made by one company (apple lol) , hardware is designed by apple, software by apple and there are no carriers apps or different custom UI for different carriers. With android you have many manufacturers, different hardware, different skin overlays and carrier bloatware. Android strength in customization and diversity is its weakness in updates.
[Nexus 4 General] xcstacy:
I've used a Samsung Galaxy S2 before Nexus 4 and imo Samsung Galaxy S2 was a really great phone 2 years ago (until I got fed up with the wait for source). Compare to S2, I think Nexus 4 is really great and I mainly like how the phone is constantly getting latest updates from Google unlike from other phone manufacturers.

Yes, the phone has got no SD card slot. I don't really use much storage space in my phones so meh its not a big issue for me.

Price wise I think the phone is value for money.

Nexus 4 FTW
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Waiting for the Nexus live 5

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[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
The only phone that will really compete with the Nexus 4 is the next Nexus. Seriously. No other phone comes with stock Android and immediate updates. That, in my opinion, places the Nexus 4 in a league of its own.
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
I used a HTC OneX until now.

Got a Nexus4 yesterday and I just have to say, it's so much better.

It's extremely smooth and fast, I couldn't believe it at first. It feels so premium and the screen is on par after flashing the ParanoidAndroid colorfix kernel.

HOX screen has still much better viewing angles, but that's not needed.

Oh, and I love the notification light!

There are just two major drawbacks: The extremely limited memory of 16(no wait, 12.9)gb and the useless camera (Even my HD2 made better pics).

All in all, I like the Nexus4 the most. It would be the greatest phone ever, if the cam and the memory would be upgraded.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I disagree. Not saying that the nexi ( I think its plural for nexus :p ) aren't great, but other phones DO compete. I actually prefer having a custom UI on top of stock android. I like the extra features of touchwiz and sense, even the newest LG UI. Stock android, while being fast and fluid, is too plain for me and can be "boring" at times. Another thing is that you can always flash paranoid, AOKP, CM to an HTC, Samsung, Sony .... On the other hand you don't get touchwiz, sense or timescape Roms on a nexus. I will say that the biggest advantage of nexus devices are the updates. But as far as UI I much prefer a custom overlay ( that's just a personal choice).
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
Well, for me, the custom UIs of manufacturers are a big disadvantage.

I really like the pure stock more
[Nexus 4 General] donwhann:
totally agree on the camera, its ****ing useless......thank god i still have my sensation xe which takes half decent pictures. im getting pretty use to the memory though. i mainly supply the music at friends houses at the weekends so having 70 odd gb of music on the cloud is pretty sweet for me, at tops i'll only have 5 or 6 albums on the phone at any one time for personal use. but the camera........yeah, epic fail !!! (compared to much older phone cameras, NOT actual cameras which will always be better of course, so please dont say "its a phone, go buy a camera if you wanna take good pictures).......:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
I have my music on my cowon j3 with 32gb intern + 64gb SD. Phone would be never enough for that. Audio quality on the qualcom S4 is also horrible compared to the cowon (I'm a bit audiophile..)

12.9gb are just not enough for cwm backups, photos and HD games like wildblood, nova or horn. I don't want to play everything on my n7 :/

But atleast i can outsource many things to the n7 wich has 32gigs.

right now I have 2gb left, this has to be enough :3
[Nexus 4 General] donwhann:
2gb is bad man.....these phones should have had a minimum of 32gb on board to keep up with todays standards (my opinion)...
[Nexus 4 General] dzel:
yep...advantage of nexus always the latest updates.I see other phones going to overtake n4 in coming months..
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
4.2.1 got leaked for the s3.... Samsung is catching up:D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1835931

scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] BMP7777:
Only because of the hard work of the devs, not Samsung. Not downing on Samsung, I love their products. Just sayin' that one of the (only) true and unarguable ways this device is superior is the nature of development in the Android. Its the one way that no other device can touch it. All other features can be argued, but the vanilla 4.2 cannot. It's the way I see it anyway. And I was somebody who would not go anywhere else but Samsung. Still won't; other than the Nexus devices. :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] Malevolence:
Got my N4 yesterday and it's nice, beautiful. I forgot how great the small size is compared to the huge screen on my N2. Biggest letdown coming from the N2 is battery life but I'll see how it goes.

Surprisingly, it was the google magazine/media widget on one of the homescreens that was making the N4 lag when flipping through the home screens, it was smooth after removing the widget...is that normal?
[Nexus 4 General] arzbhatia:
Who here is waiting for the X phone? I can't wait! I absolutely love motorola! Oh and, Google, duh.
[Nexus 4 General] :
My $0.02

I had a iPhone 4 and as soon as apple ruined it with IOS6 I needed a new phone, bought a Nexus 4 and WOW it's amazing better than a iPhone 5 and better than the dual core S3 (in the UK)

It's amazing, truly amazing!!

every game works at ultra with 28+ FPS!!!
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
Why is every one so obsessed with getting updates?

Android 4.1 jelly bean is truly amazing as it is, across finally feels complete and anything more is just a bonus (butter was the final essential feature), at least this is what I think, hence this is a genuine question not a rude rhetoric.

Sent to you watchers of illusion from my castle of confusion.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
No one really knows what KLP/5.0 hold in store yet. I'd bet most people were satisfied with GB until ICS shattered their expectations.
[Nexus 4 General] phreak24:
I'll be receiving my Nexus 4 on Monday to replace Galaxy Nexus which I absolutely hate in any possible aspect. Nexus 4 has good reviews, so my hopes are high. But I've noticed one similarity between both phones which is hard for me to comprehend: the speaker is located on the back panel. This speaker is used when phone rings and for conversations in speakerphone mode. So when phone is placed on any surface, rings or speakerphone conversations are somewhat muted, sometimes almost completely (if phone is placed on soft surface like couch, comforter, pillow). Considering that 99.9% of people put their phones on any surface screen up, you can see the extent of the problem.

This issue is not something that can go unnoticed even for an average phone user, not mentioning professional phone designers. I personally can't recall any other phone I had with the same odd speaker location. What's going on? Is it some kind of sabotage or just complete stupidity? Or may me it's a Korean cultural or religious thing that objects phones with speaker location on the side? Or may be Koreans put their phones always upside down for some mysterious reason?

I really can't find any logical and reasonable explanation. But if I can't hear when my phone rings, it really pisses me off, as that what phones are for - to answer them when they ring...
[Nexus 4 General] nohcho:
I agree with you it's appalling that Google thinks it's enough to have 8 or 16 these days. Cloud is all fine and dandy but some people have really spotty coverage where cloud is not very practical.

Say what you will about apple, at least they have a 64 version iPhone and a 128 GB version iPad and they don't live in this illusion that 16 is enough these days.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
What kind of stupidity is this?
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
lol @ everybody jumping ship to the HTC One. Enjoy your S-On bootloader which means you need a computer with fastboot to flash the boot partition, crappy AOSP ROMs that have far worse battery life than Sense builds and loads of bugs because hTC don't supply properly working kernel source. Enjoy having a borked camera if you don't like Sense. Enjoy owning a device made by a company who say 'F-you' to your warranty if you ever unlock the bootloader (even though this is in violation of EU law requiring them to prove that the fault was caused by the software modifications, which in the case of the One X wireless connection issues it definitely wasn't, lol)

Oh, and on top of that, if you get an operator branded device, enjoy waiting an extra 3 months for an update release for your CID. Hey, maybe the HTC One will have Android 4.2 by the time Key Lime Pie is released?

From my point of view, I'll gladly put up with any amount of glass and technically inferior specs to have an Android device that works as promised. About the only other thing worthy of consideration right now is an unbranded Xperia Z, but I've a feeling we're taliking about more than double the cost of a Nexus 4 then, as bootloader locks generally aren't removable on operator branded Sonys.
[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
The speaker placement is poor. Especially since the phone has a flat glass back. Placing the phone back down results in a mutated speaker. That's what the iPhone speaker is on the bottom edge of the device instead of the back.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Agree so stupid to have speaker at back... Mutes sound when its placed flat on desk

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[Nexus 4 General] Eltocliousus:
Had my Nexus 4 now for a month or so now and I'm generally impressed, it's very fast with the S4, all the new phones will use the S4 and/or Snap 600 but this is the first out of the gate with proper software support too which is good.

The display is the best I've seen on a phone, and rivals my monitor after colour tweaking, hopefully my Faux123 app gets updated so I can tweak it properly again, as of now I'm stuck on just changing the R:G:B which luckily is enough to remove the yellow filter.

Some of the bad though, the back scratches too easily, they should have made the rear glass out of gorilla glass.

Both the volume buttons and power button are a bit poor in the build quality area, they creak and rattle and just don't fit in with the phone.

Overall I'm pleased, it's not perfect but no product ever is, hopefully it will last me a couple of years, I don't see why not. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
The rear glass IS made out of Gorilla Glass 2 lol. And yes, Gorilla Glass 1, 2, and upcoming 3 all scratch easily.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
It scratches against anything as hard as, or harder than glass. This includes sand and a few grains of sand can be lying anywhere.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
It's obvious that you're disappointed with HTC but come on now. As far as flashing kernels with the fastboot command, yes it sucks but 2 things: 1, I believe most people download roms and kernels from their computer so flashing a kernel takes two seconds ( if you don't have a computer and download your roms and kernels, it could be irritating sometimes but even that is fixable.which leads me to point number ) 2, there's the flash GUI app, most high end phones are supported and im pretty sure the HTC one will be. It lets you flash kernels without the need of a computer.

My other point is that development isn't all about aosp. When I buy an HTC, Samsung, Sony or LG, I mostly buy it because of the custom UI that comes with it. You can still flash a paranoid, CM or aokp to those phones, but you cant flash sense, touchwiz, timescape or LG's UI on a nexus.

You do make a point however with the S-On bullcrap, HTC makes it annoying to unlock the bootloader and it pisses me off too.

But to me android isn't all about aosp, all the extra skin overlays add many great and useful features that stock android lacks (at least right now).
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
And it seems anyone waiting for a really fast S IV will be disappointed,no cortex A15 for you. This means the S IV will bring at most a 40% performance increase, and pretty much all the high end phones sold in the next 6 months will have rougly the same hardware.

If software features in touchwiz are what you are after, though, the S IV is for you.
[Nexus 4 General] G1ukos:
Do you even understand, that it's a HUGE number, mate? =)
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Not if you compared it to what the A15 would have done

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
By how much? I think ppl are underestimating Qualcomm and their SoC. Samsung could have chosen the tegra 4 but they went for snapdragon. And samsung is known to optimize software and hardware pretty well. Their devices usually perform better than HTC devices when they are using the same hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
Exactly, also it's not like a full generational leap as we have seen previously(when going from ARM11 to scorpion, A8 to dual core A9 or dual core to quad core A9. Each time the multi threaded peak performance more than doubled. The exynos 5 octa will probably be closer to the snapdragon 800.

I see many people can OC the nexus 4 to 1.8 GHz, and that would probably cut the gap up to an S IV by more than a half. Also the HTC One won't be left behind at all, like so many were expecting. A 0.2 GHz bump in performance really won't make any practical difference. Also because there really are very few differences other than clock speed, this pretty much guarantees that anything which runs on one platform will run on the other.

Many people felt that the nexus 4 would be outdated too soon after they were able to buy it, but I would argue that isn't really the case. In fact, I would say that this makes the nexus 4 a viable option even if they keep the price unchanged.

Samsung really couldn't have chosen tegra 4 if they wanted to launch in march, this is only about wanting to launch at the right time. The S III is being monstered by all their competitors.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
The best part about the Nexus 4 vs. the new competition is that it has the same Adreno 320 powering less than half the pixels. It will generally offer superior gaming performance.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
What? Who?