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[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
What I think really makes the note interesting is the stylus. Having a responsive fine point stylus on an android device would open up a new world of applications, and is the one thing I mid most about the touch pro I had years ago.

So is the nexus 4 in my opinion. It is uncomfortable to use one handed, which it'd how I've come to prefer using this tripe of device.

I opted to go with the nexus 4 to replace my nexus s based mostly on software. Though it is very hard to find high end hardware in a 3.2-4 inch package. Frankly of I could have gotten the same hardware with a smaller screen I would have. Sadly Apple seems to me the only hardware vendor that this high performance parts belong in a form factor that fits well in one hand.

Size aside, I wouldn't trade my nexus 4 for any device currently on the market
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
Bro you must have the smallest hands
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus-S:
It's funny you should say that because you echo my thoughts exactly.

I had actually ordered the Nexus 4 but cancelled after the fiasco that accompanied the launch and went for the iPhone 5 instead. Seriously, iOS is OK if a little bit boring but the hardware really is superb.

I only wish a manufacturer would make a high-end Android device with a 4 - 4.3 inch screen. I think that Samsung has missed a trick with the Galaxy S3 Mini.
[Nexus 4 General] skells:
I reckon if price is no limit, the N2 is the best phone. However, the N4 has unbeatable value for money.
[Nexus 4 General] Zanthexter:
WiFi is slower than USB, but hugely more convenient. You can install (free) Samba Filesharing and then just map a network drive to your device in Windows. To Windows, you're phone is just an older PC.
[Nexus 4 General] eyahl:
Thanks for this post.

I really like how objective you are. And i can see why the n4 is not enough for your needs.

I personally bought n4 8gb version. Not because i couldn't afford 16gb version, but i simply don't need more space. I normally don't play games on my phone, i have my photos in cloud, movies on notebook. Music on phone, but for a day of music listening my storage is more than enough.

In my opinion an SD card slot would be nice for some, but is not necessary for many people out there.
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
I agree as well on my optimus G I have 16GB on phone and it comes with 16GB SD I have a ton of pics, and music but there all in the cloud so I'm using barely 7 gb

sent from my Optimus G because Optimus Prime was busy....
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I've had 2 nexus 4, very good phone especially for that price and those specs. But battery life wasn't consistent for me, one day I could do 13 hours with 4h on screen time, the other same hours but 2 1/2 hours on screen time. Plus the audio sound via headphones isn't loud enough and I listen to music every time I commute. I switched to an HTC One XL and im in love! Audio is fantastic and battery life is surprisingly great with that 1800 math battery.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
i'm bored of my nexus4 now, i want an octacore 3ghz1080p 5.2 inch smartphone! :silly::victory::cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] spartanerik:
Nexus 4 just arrived.. was previously using an HTC One S

My two cents:

(PROS)

- Jesus, this thing is fast

- Google Now is pretty awesome

- Nice build quality

(CONS)

- The screen's colors seem VERY washed out compared to the SAMOLED display the HTC One S had

- Battery life seems to drain pretty quickly

- Even though it's only a little bigger than the HTC One S, it still feels pretty bulky (this may just take getting used to)
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I agree, the nexus 4 is definitely the fastest device I have ever used, especially entering, exiting apps and multitask. Nothing is better at it.
[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
Just because of the Crapoled, I will avoid all Samsung Phones. Right now, I am waiting for Nexus4 and HTC Butterfly.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Found one locally 8gb at $350, tempted to buy it, and sell the iPhone 5.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Here in Finland the price is almost the same with N2 and N4.

Tomorrow I could go pick my N4 from the post but after reading here I am not sure if I want it since I already have N2.

And I have to agree with all other Note 2 users, this really isn't so big after you start using it. I know that if I see somebody else using Note 2 I might look at it and think "whoa that thing is huge!" But when I use it I actually consider it to be a perfect size.

Reason why I am drooling over Nexus 4 is that after having SGS2, SGS3 and now N2 I am so bored of Touchwiz and I am actually using Nova launcher now. I would like to have the latest Android always when it comes and not wait for months.

Still I am slowly starting to think that I just should return N4 immediatly. I am very much tempted to use it a bit but with my luck I will crack the bezel on the first day.

Also the shop will take it back only if its unopened. I could of course sell it but with the price they sell it here at the retail shops I doubt I could get any money out of it.

Also I think that the design Samsung went for is quite ugly. SGS2 looked nice. But this SGS3 and Note 2 design is not.
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
I think the one S is one of the really underrated phones of 2012. I'm certainly going to miss its thin and sleek body (when my n4 turns up...). It's one of the reasons I went for the one S instead of the one X
[Nexus 4 General] letom:
I don't think I did in any way actually:p

It's not a differentiator if it can quite easily be copied by any other OEM. What happens when it's popular one year then next year every other OEM is doing the same thing. Sense, Touch-wiz Motorblur are differentiators because they cannot be copied. It's like I said, they're not trying to sell you Android, they want you to buy into their custom skins so the next time you're thinking of buying a new phone you're only really contemplating getting Sense because you already like it. HTC is not offering a stock option is the most profitable Long Run option for them and for their competitors. The reason I'm so sure of this is because this is very simple microeconomic theory.
[Nexus 4 General] PontiacGTX:
I think that 8gb version isnt enough pay more for 16gb version you`ll be less limited in storage
[Nexus 4 General] Majkysek:
Has anyone compared N4 with HOX? :)
[Nexus 4 General] PontiacGTX:
htc one X is worse uses tegra 3 ; up to A Dual core Krait processor is better than Tegra 3 from reviews I have seen and HTC one S is better too,Droid DNA, Optimus G are better than E960(nexus4)
[Nexus 4 General] gedster314:
Just got my N4 2 days ago. I had my Note2 N7100 since October. So far I find the Note2 a better phone. On the Note2 I am running a leaked version of JB 4.1.2 with the Apex Launcher. I find the Note2 running smoother and seems faster, better display and much longer battery life (yes I know it has a bigger battery). Build quality on the Nexus seems really good. At $350 for 16GB it's a good phone but I don't see how the LG branded phone could be sold in the $500 range.

I will continue to use the Nexus4 a few weeks just to try out the TMobile $30/month plan. Given the choice between and S3/Note2 or N4, I say go for Samsung, JB 4.2.1 just does not impress me enough and I don't think the N4 lives up to hype or the demand that it has.

I'm sure I'll be flamed, that's fine, it is a Nexus 4 forum.
[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
Don't worry about flaming or what. It is a discussion forum anyway, just ignore those stubborn people. :laugh:

Indeed, like most people, it is either choosing better battery life, bigger screen over getting update fastest. But I do think that SAMOLED is not the best display (fair enough, in terms of colors and saturation and stuff, it is better over N4), picky people like me will definitely not have SAMOLED in any phone and prefer to have Super LCD just purely because of the burnt mark/short LED life span issue. It is quite laughable actually, I got a couple of friends using Samsung phone and in order to lower risk of burnt mark on screen, they adjust the brightness so low even the person handling the phone can hardly see.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Maybe 4.2.1 didn't impress but the nexus will have 4.3 or maybe 5.0 by the time the note gets 4.2

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Sent from my Cyanogenmod powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
That is the 1 huge perks about Nexus4 man. The 1 factor which is making me wait for N4 to reach my shore instead of jumping into N2 which is already on sale in my Country.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
First day with Nexus 4 after using Note 2 and must say that not looking good currently for Nexus.

I got used to bigger screen so screen of Nexus feels so small now. Writing is difficult and browsing not so great.

Also battery seems to be horrible. I am down from 70% to 19% in just 2 hours. Sure this is the first boot so it will take its toll.

I will try for a week this one and then let's see if I miss Note 2 anymore. Currently I don't have any points where nexus is better than note 2 but let's see after a week :)
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
If quick updates are not your top priority then you can use the Nexus for a month and that's not going to sway you away from the Note 2. It's just a better phone in almost every respect.
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
Do it! I sold my iPhone 5 for SGS3 and never looked back now I have a nexus 4 and its the best with OG android

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[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone

Now I'm really happy I've got Nexus device. What do you think, on what phone will it run better? :D
[Nexus 4 General] tamajin:
That's not normal, I can use my N4 for a whole day or more without charging. Of course I don't spend hours playing games while downloading things off 3G so...
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Well it is first day setting everything up so that's why takes battery. I will comment it more carefully later.

Must give credit to Samsung for making some improvements which I thought were android based. One which I just noticed is that when I am listening to music, there is no easy way to adjust notification sounds. It is annoying and can't understand why Google didn't copy it from Samsung..
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Is it true stock android doesn't have Smart/T9 dialing? I'll have to manually search the contact list like some sort of primate? I hate to search using the keyboard, T9 searching is far faster for a quick dial.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Yup, true. One of a very few reasons for me to flash custom ROM and be done with it. Rasbeanjelly fits my needs spot on.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Damn, I wanted to stick to stock for as long as possible. I'll probably use some 3rd party dialer or something. I'd hate to though >.>
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
That was my initial intention. But then I realised that it would be too much messing about trying to add this and that and went for that rom instead. All in one flash, me happy. I highly recommend it, and it looks like we are after the same thing, so you should like it a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
I probably will go ahead and buy it, I purchased my 16gb nexus 4 from google and traded it for the iphone 5 32gb. Only had the nexus 4 for about 24 hours if that. I'll play with this one for awhile and see if I decide to keep it, main issue is wanting to root and flash custom roms. Dont want to get in the habit of checking for updates and which rom is best. Stock android Id stick to but the need to flash will win over.
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
With a nexus I almost never get the need to flash but some people are addicted

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[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Yes I am somewhat addicted but all I really need is a solid stock phone with good battery life. Ive been using my wifes nexus 7 and its fun, I havent rooted it yet!

Iphone 5: Solid OS, WORKS! excellent battery life typically 2 days for me, plus the camera is great

cons: only 2g data speeds, majority of the time Im on wifi though

Nexus 4: stock, google, same function as iphone (same apps I use), faster data speeds 3g/4g,

cons: battery life, camera?

Either way I'll be happy with my decision, one can be a back up even
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
My nexus 4 is having good battery life I guess I lucked out the camera isn't iPhone 5 quality but its good enough and some are making it out worse than it is

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[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
I saw that today. It's interesting, and partly explains the decisions canonical made around their ui in the last several years.

The concept of a phone that docks and becomes more than a phone has been done before (original atrix) but the right mix of hardware performance and apps just hasn't been there to date.

I actually expect Microsoft top get there with windows 8 or it's replacement before either Google or Ubuntu find success, in part because of natural hardware progression and in part because they have office.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Purchased the nexus 4 8gb tonight from craigslist, phone new in box. Setting it up now, probably going to go ahead and root it for the hell of it. :silly: may possibly pick up a micro sim card since my iphone 5 is a nano.

So far same feelings once I first picked it up, sexy and slick, very fast. Just need to convince myself to keep one or the either. Iphone 5 32gb or nexus 4 8gb
[Nexus 4 General] Desperta.Ferro:
Hello, I am new here. I see this forum is for developers, and I am a guy that has been out of the IT business for a long time (I work in finance). I am now setting up a business, and I see most people here (both Spain and UK) using iPhones and iPads. I always have liked the open source idea (I used to be a heavy R user, and I used Linux when I could). I tend to prefer Google rather than Apple.

But I want to make a rational business decision. I am torn between the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5. As said, most people use the iPhone, and I guess that means something. But from the reviews of the "experts", many agree Android is as good, or better, than iOS. However, it seems most of the advantages come from customizability, which I do not know if it will help much to me or not.

Which advantages / disadvantages you see for a user like me?

One question is the (long term) accessibility of the data: I am pretty sure the Nexus 4 syncs very well with gmail, google calendar ... so I imagine my propietary data (contacts, calendar, emails ...) will be mine forever and will not be lost, irrespective which is my OS in the future.

Is that true also for the iPhone? I mean, I guess it is easy to sync the iPhone 5 with gmail or hotmail (I use both, in addition to any corporate email address I may have), but are all my data saved in the cloud in a place where the info is mine, and I can switch in the future to another OS, say Android or another? Or if I stick to Apple, I will have to remain there?

Let's say pricing is not an issue (of course it is), my question is regarding intrinsic capabilities of the devices (which is best in absolute terms).

Thanks and sorry for the basic questions.
[Nexus 4 General] lemoon:
Got an Google Nexus 4 and loving it, easilly the best smartphone I have owned. I'm totally loving Google Now, it's VERY useful, always offering me the stuff I need to know, there are really nice apps to get for the android phone such as Free Android Games and Apps, before I even ask it, and I find the Voice recognition to be more accurate and more useful than Siri. Yet it's modestly priced.
[Nexus 4 General] tspx23:
having the charging port and headphone jack on the same side makes it less cluttery when you have both of them plugged in though.

EDIT: My opinion?

Nexus 4 is the best device out right now for the price. If I had the money though I'd rock the note 2. Note 2 has similar performance, more battery life, better app optimization, better camera, and a larger screen. Side by side the nexus 4 performs a little better than the s3 but there are some features I still wish the N4 had including the camera/messaging apps, also the battery.sound quality on the N4 isn't as good.

Other than the S3/N2 there isn't any other phone that comes close to this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
It actually is easier if it's at the bottom, for putting it in the pocket. If it's at the bottom, you put your phone in upside down. Then, while taking it out it comes out straight. Sort of tough to explain.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
I've been torn between these two devices, I left android for months b/c I kept selling/trading phones to have the latest one. I stuck with an iphone 4s for about 4 months or so, then purchased a nexus 4 16gb from google. I kept that a day and traded it for an iphone 5 32gb which I still have.

Iphone 5: I love the IOS, smooth, stable and works damn well. Quality of the phone is excellent! camera great, battery life 2-3 days without a charge

Nexus 4 , I purchased one off craigslist last night for $350 the 8gb model. Stock android at its best, phone is solid, sexy and perfect size. Not sure which one Ill keep, Im wanting to sell one of them and which ever goes first then so be it. Posted both online to sell, have offers for both, nexus 4 I was offered $450, or a glock. Iphone 5 cash offer of 600.

Google sync is great, easily change devices and keep contacts, pictures, etc..

Apple cloud well its just their devices, its nice if you stay within the apple realm.

I would go with apple if its for business, flashing roms becomes a bad habit yet its fun. I was ready to flash a rom last night but I held off since I did a fresh install of my OS on the computer. All personal choice, best of luck
[Nexus 4 General] techferret:
:eek: Pretty common question now a days...lol. I am a IT guy on a college campus and user of both Android and iOS, and I actually see that the trend Business is going with is iOS since they have great support for any email system. I have actually commented to a few of my friends and coworkers that the iPhone is the successor to the Blackberry in many ways since iOS 5 when the notification menu finally got added to the ecosystem. I was always in the camp of Android=Work iOS=Personal but that has shifted. With the huge embrace of iOS in corporate enviroments in America, it's apparent that iOS is the king of corporate environments. I don't agree with that since you can modify Android to your will but most IT teams won't want to put in the work (again, opinions based on my work environment).

Judging from your quip that your in Finance, you should go with an iPhone. Nothing against Android, but iOS is standard in most businesses (again, note I'm from America) although you can run a iOS and Android enviroment together if you go with Google as your cloud backup for contacts and calendar. Customization is nice, but if the devices will be used for pure business use iPhone is a great choice. Remember iPhone is made with your parents, grandparents, and novice computer users in mind - not too difficult to use and easy to pick up and understand after a few uses.

Back to the cloud question, when I had the iOS environment I loved the iCloud integration. Seeing that your setting up a business I'd go with Google's implementation instead since you can pull that up on the web. Apple's web implementation of this isn't all that great since it is still young, and still needs polish, whereas you get more options going with Google's options. Either cloud system you choose, you can export your contacts and calendar to any ecosystem with either option.
[Nexus 4 General] FLeite:
Man, I needed to come back here and say something.

Forget about even comparing the SGS3 and Nexus4. If you are still thinking, stop. Wait for the N4. Best. Android. Experience. Ever.

Got the Nexus4, and it is such a pleasure using it, personalizing it, and finding about new things I can do with it.

Forget about the displays. Great one we have here. If you of course value the extra storage (SD card), go to other phones. If it's secondary, don't even question yourself, get the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
Have to agree have had my nexus 4 for a few days and love it completely and coming from the SGS3 and optimus G there is no comparison. I am loving all the features in 4.2.1 and the amazing speed and quickness

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[Nexus 4 General] Techguy18:
Nexus 4 vs HTC One S

Thinking of buying a phone but am stuck when it comes to the nexus 4 16gb and the htc one s 16gb S4 Krait.

The htc is slightly slimmer but the nexus has all the advantages like...

quad core+ 2gb RAM, android updates... the htc might stop getting updates by android 4.2 or 4.3...

My only concern is the battery life... Many users have posted battery life measurements saying that the phone lasts for only around 16hrs...

I want a phone which can last through the day with modaerate usage.. some calls.. little internet (edge).. no gps..

I even heard that the screen is a big battery drain... Is the battery on the N4 really bad? What if auto sync is off , wifi is off and screen brightness is low?
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
The phone easily gets me through a day, it can even manage 2-3 days if I'm conservative and only use it as a phone. Overall is pretty good compared to some of the older androids I've owned. It's still not as good as the s3 but not terribly worse and I am confident it well improve with software updates.

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Sent from my AOKP powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
http://m.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/01/an-iphone-lovers-confession-i-switched-to-the-nexus-4-completely/
[Nexus 4 General] daverob25:
I got my n4 and the first thing I did was root it. I work 12 hour shifts and found I was running for the charger towards the end of the day (only moderate usage). I installed Franco's kernel and my god what a difference! Coming home at night I'm still on about 75%. I'm using the phone more intensively now (playing need for speed etc during breaks) because I'm not concerned that doing so will kill my battery. Best phone I've ever had!
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
I'm gonna wait and see what this next incremental update will bring. I partially bought this phone for the prompt updates from Google so rooting it almost completely defeats the purpose

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[Nexus 4 General] daverob25:
I did think about it for a few minutes first but when there are such excellent devs around the nexus forum it won't be long before their custom ROMs are bang up to date
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
Definitely true its personal taste I guess.

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