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[Nexus 4 General] gallardo5:
Let's try...

1: TW will never be as smooth as pure vanilla Android on Nexus 4, believe me, Nexus 4 even on stock ROM is muuuuch smoother than my friend's S3 in every aspect.

2: Stock gamma settings in Nexus are washed out badly, screen looks bad, BUT it can be tweaked with faux gamma control, and if you set it properly (or use someone else's profile, they are posted all over N4 section), it will look better than s3. (Still comparing my n4 to my friend's s3.

3: thermal throotling could be a problem, but custom kernel could improve it a lot. For now, thermal throotling is not a problem for me, even after 2-3 hours playing real racing 3. And also, with 2gb of ram you could simply minimize rr3, go to music player, change song, reply to a message on fb or sms, and go back to rr3, and it all AT THE MIDDLE OF THE RACE. 2gb of ram and stock android is a beast, and I used the rr3 just for example.

4: I didn't use any mods for video bitrate, and I don't really care how good the video from my phone is, so I can't really help you with it, sorry, but overall video quality is acceptable (at least for me, it could be too bad for you).

As an conclusion, don't even think about s3, get a nexus 4, modify it, and believie me, you will be proud of this decision :)
[Nexus 4 General] dittu123:
Thanks for the awesome detailed replies! Am almost sold on the Nexus 4 ! Now if only someone can comment on the video recording quality ( a friend said it was atrocious, and doesn't even look 1080p, and I use video recording ALOT, so thats why I am a little wary) ...I'll probably overlook the fact that it will have a lower market value...it seems to be pretty much the ultimate droid, and it'll probably get better with android 5.0.
[Nexus 4 General] moneyolo:
Moto X features vs. Nexus

Well, the Moto X has some cool features like that notification pulsing or always listening. Hopefully we see on KLP or an upcoming android update as my Nexus 4 really wants that. :P Hoping for the best in KLP.
[Nexus 4 General] scotth324:
I had the s3 for almost a year and switched to the nexus 4. I tried TW Roms and aosp Roms. Nothing came close to the nexus 4. The one thing that is much better on the s3 is the camera.

Running stock JB or an aosp ROM the camera in the s3 is better. For both pictures and video. Maybe I got a bad nexus 4 but mine just doesn't take as nice a pictures as the s3.

Battery life the nexus 4 is much better. The screen is much much better especially outside. Also I like the form factor better. Always had the s3 in a case due to being worried about scratching the camera lens. The nexus 4 is great with or without a case. I don't use my phone for gaming so I can't comment on that. Also I have found the nexus gets signal where the s3 doesn't.

Its an easy choice get the nexus. You won't be disappointed and it will always have the newest software.
[Nexus 4 General] moneyolo:
Soo true, my friend has a S3 too and wants the Nexus. Its a google phone and google doesn't disappoint and it didn't when they launched the nexus 4. 'nuff said.
[Nexus 4 General] dittu123:
Thanks for your opinion...the pictures samples I saw of the nexus were OK (not great, but usable) but I am worried about the video. Can you comment on that? I just want good quality and smooth (30 fps) video. Right now that is the only thing holding me back from running to the store and getting myself a nexus lol
[Nexus 4 General] sharky2013:
I find this phone to be the go to phone, I have thought about a trade here and there for a note 2 or an xperia ZL or HTC one but I love the ease of flashing a rom and kernel whenever I want and its fast, I mean 1080p would be great but not necessary IMO... a snapdragon 800 would be awesome though lol.
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
I owned an s3 for several months, i take a lot of pics and record 1080p vids especially when i'm cycling and my phone is my only camera. Video recording on nexus4 (at least mine) is terrible, a lot of artifacts, lack of details, pail colors, blurry even with little moving. Pictures are also not that great, but they are -as you said- usable, pics from a nexus4 are overprocessed (grainy), lack details and color saturation is not that good.

If camera is what interests you, the s3 kills the nexus4 everytime, both pictures and video recording. Make sure you check out hyper x (hx mod) for the s3. Makes a huge difference especially with video recording.

If you want to discuss and compare other fields, like performance, updates etc.. then that's a different story.
[Nexus 4 General] dindin1212:
I have had my S3 for over a year now, but recently dropped it in the ocean, so I am waiting for my N4 to arrive.

The photo quality on the S3 was amazing, and so was the video. It took clearly better pics than my wife's iphone4 I rarely print photos, I just keep them on g+, facebook and phanfare for sharing with family and friends. I hope the quality is tolerable...

I was thinking that if the Moto X has a great camera (should) and gets software updates from the mothership (won't) I would get it, but no suck luck. :(

On another note, it would be interesting to see if the Moto X with the wooden back cover (not yet avail) will be floating on the water.:D
[Nexus 4 General] Armadillo123:
I'm also considering whether I should get a Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3. They seem quite even so I'm leaning towards S3 purely because I think the reselling value will be higher.

Is it worth consider Huawei P6 instead? It's similarly priced and spec'ed it seems and I much prefer the form factor. Actually, I don't like the way the S3 looks that much. The S2 was much better to look at.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Any think nex4 is more smoother then Sammy s4?

Via my NeXus⁴ using Tapatalk² app
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
I'd take a 2013 droid Ultra or droid Maxx over a S⁴,..
[Nexus 4 General] peetoe:
vecauid and

I love my N4 I'm running Parandroid and couldn't be happier. The only phone I would consider is the HTC ONE but the availability of custom kernels and roms cant be beat on the N4. my two cents for what its worth.
[Nexus 4 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Hey guys. So I have always been a CDMA guy but I am finally thinking of jumping ship to T-Mo. I am currently on Verizon with an S3. I have also owned the GNEX but got rid of it because of the terrible battery life and really bad camera.

First question, can anyone compare the N4 camera with the GNEX camera? I am hoping it is at least equal to or better then the GNEX.

Also, is there a difference in the N4 if I were to purchase one straight from the Google play store or finance one through T-Mo. I know T-Mo charges more but how do updates work if I were to buy the phone from one place or another. If you buy from T-Mo do you have to wait for an actual T-Mo update instead of running the updates that Google push? Just trying to decide what to do here as I said not to familiar with the GSM game. Was on Sprint for almost 15 years and then Verizon for almost 2 so the CDMA game is pretty straight forward and as most people know it sucks!

Thanks for any input and help!
[Nexus 4 General] ArigatoLowLife:
Hey guys, help me out here. I'm on a tight budget, and considering buying either Galaxy S2 16 GB or Nexus 4 8 GB. I don't live in USA, but I can tell you that the Galaxy S2 is 100 USD more cheaper. I would totally go for the Nexus 4 because of it's low price (I'm thinking of buying it from Google play US, and ship it to me) and specs, but the storage is my main problem now. I don't have a contract, and I can't afford one, as I'm not economically stable. So cloud storage is out of option. I currently have a Galaxy Y, with 8 GB SD card, which is almost used (500 MB space left), and since the Galaxy Y doesn't offer much internal storage, I have all my apps on the phone. I'm no hard gamer, as my Galaxy Y is a low end phone who doesn't support HD games, but after getting a new one, I would love to play games.

I'm thinking of using the phone (Galaxy S2 or Nexus 4) for at least 2 years. Which one would you chose, given the conditions above?
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Doesn't matter who you buy it from updates are the same and the camera is a lot better the gnex but isn't the most amazing camera either
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
The play price is not the final price. I paid 405 for my 16gb after tax+shipping, not sure if your region has tax but keep that in mind. I wouldn't recommend the S2 since it's specs will limit how it handles future android versions and apps. Content will appear blurrier on a S2 than a N4 because of the density difference. The price gap is certainly worth switching to a N4.
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Honestly don't bother with the 8gb version you only actually get 5gb if you really can't afford to buy the 16gb version the go with the galaxy s2 that's just my 2 cents
[Nexus 4 General] ArigatoLowLife:
I know that the Play price is not final. I've had my cousin who lives in US to check by just filling his information and check the price. And it will total 399. The Galaxy S2 will cost me around 250 or maybe close to 300. And I'm going for the 8 GB, so that's the only issue I have. I don't have any contracts or plans, as I said in my previous post. It's actually either Galaxy S2, Nexus 4 or Galaxy Nexus. Argh, I can't decide =[

Also, I have only used Low-end phones such as HTC Desire C and Galaxy Y, so even upgrading to Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S2 is a BIG plus to me. I'll have till tomorrow to decide before I buy either.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Lol 300 for a S2 is outrageous, I would buy a One S for that price.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/101292/ebay-16gb-tmobile-htc-one-s-smartphone

Anyway I wouldn't bother with a bunch of lowend phones, they're nothing but headaches. Also using the 8gb may be awful since you'll constantly worry about storage, which is counterintuitive due to you wanting "HD" games.
[Nexus 4 General] jay_993:
Sgs2 was released long ago but its still definitely capable of doing most things tbh. Just sayin.
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
I rather go with samsung galaxy s3,razr i if you in europe than s2. Galaxy s2 specs is outdated.

If you like htc go with htc one s it cheaper than current flagshift.

Team DROID
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Of course, but the One S is even more capable than it.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
The camera is definitely better than the GNEX's. As long as you have a good lighting, you can get a decent picture.

Purchasing it from Google is cheaper in the long run. I haven't done the math in a while, but I believe you'll save between $100 and $150, depending on which model you get.

The Nexus 4 T-Mobile sells is identical to the Play Store version. Google controls the updates for both.
[Nexus 4 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Thanks, it looks to be about $80 cheaper to purchase from the Play store. Verizon just offered to let me out of contract without paying an ETF. Now the question is am I CRAZY to go with T-Mobile even though my bill will be about $50 cheaper for 2 lines on T-Mo. Lol

Also, I would love to wait for the Nexus 5 but guess I can just sell the 4 when the 5 comes out and just put a little more money for it.

Can someone here please convince me it is okay to move to T-Mobile after having Verizon.
[Nexus 4 General] spriteboost:
Idk how much you care for your money lolz $50 a month adds up but possibly att would be better all depends on your area. I have service through t-mobile right now. I'm not to pleased with it at my house and building penetration is weak :-\. I'm debating finding a cheap att provider not go phone because i think they charge to much still have to do my research. Anyways it all depends on the coverage you have I live out in the boonies so I get why it sucks when closer to decently bigger city's in michigan its great but sometimes the building penetration can come into play sorry repeating myself lolz. Well good luck you can always try it out some t-mobile cheap plan or att plan or both and see how each compares to your standards GL.
[Nexus 4 General] hassanaltaf:
has to be said i really like the N4s design and overall look but screen display isnt nice and touch is just pathetic. coming from galaxy nexus i would say that the touch was really disappointing. should have really sticked to galaxy nexus
[Nexus 4 General] ArigatoLowLife:
I don't actually like the looks of htc phones. If I go with 16 GB, it will cost me 450. At that price, I can buy an S3 at my country. o__O dunno what to buy. Well, I need a new phone, and I want it to be high-end. Have tried Swappa, but most don't want to ship to my country.
[Nexus 4 General] Ajfink:
So the Nexus 4 is nearing a year old and the only phone that's come out that's made me even remotely envious is the HTC One for its sexy-ass body, but even then I can't come close to justifying the dough for it. The Nexus 4 is pretty shwanky in its own right, and it's still pretty badass, and it won't be listening to me or scanning my ****ing surroundings like a tricorder like the Moto X.

This is the first phone I've owned that I think I will really get a full lifespan out of before feeling like it's obsolete. If it had a 1080p screen it would be pretty close to perfection.
[Nexus 4 General] fabio981:
W NEXUS

This Phone it's perfect. For price and skill is the best. Much better than apple of sure. Maybe the unique things that the apple have then N4 is the touch screen. I love my Nexus.:highfive::highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Nexus 4 is now 199, so it's better than S3/2.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Last year, Google first reduced the price of Galaxy Nexus to $399 and then again to $349 for the 16 GB model. Then, they introduced Nexus 4 at $349. I think and suspect that Google is doing this again. They have lowered the 16 GB Nexus 4 to $249. This means the next Nexus ( probably named Nexus 5) will be $249 for the 16 GB model. And 8 GB will be $199. This move this really disrupt the two year contract (cough, jail) model which all carriers have spearheaded in USA. That will be a day to see and remember for a long time. :D

This is my observation and opinion. Thanks for reading.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Just sold my Galaxy S4 yesterday because of the lags and framedrops while gaming. scrolling and opening apps/widgets. Bought a Nexus 4 again (4th one by now). The Nexus devices are definately the smoothest working around, no debating about that. Looking forward too the N5 :good:
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
N4 just dropped in price.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Yup, i payed 299 euro`s for the 16GB model, new off course. Good price imo for Europe :)
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
If you just bought another, Google is offering price protection to those who bought after August 12th.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Bought it in a German shop, not through the Play Store :) We don`t have that in the Netherlands (yet).
[Nexus 4 General] ArigatoLowLife:
Gave up on the Nexus 4, as I have to pay 25% for VAT. =[
[Nexus 4 General] gamepr:
I haven't sold my S4 yet but ordered myself another N4 to replace the broken one that triggered the purchase of the s4.
[Nexus 4 General] damon7620:
I know I might get crap for this, but I would trade my Nexus 4 anyday for the HTC One, S4, or even a Note 2 or S3 LTE. I Miss expandable storage, removable battery and T-Mobile wifi calling. My house gets horrid reception :(
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
Yeah, but the Galaxy S2 have a microSD slot and removable battery, that's still a plus for some people. And being a Samsung, its might be easier to root and flash, especially with ODIN, imo. The intentional version have a faster cpu than the Galaxy Nexus (even though similarly clock) so it can still hold up. The short coming is the non-HD screen. With that said the One S is a fine choice too, but weighing the pros of the S2, its not a bad choice.

No expandable storage nor removable battery with HTC phones. These day if you want removable storage and battery, pretty much Samsung is the only option and I don't know how much longer its going to last. Also have you tried using Vonage?
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
Guys, this is top secret. Don't share with anyone.

There is a product called external battery pack. It is the size of a phone battery which can charge your phone and the electronic cigarette.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
"don't share with anyone"....says the man on a public forum.

Oooh, you were being facetious! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Reamer09:
I have one and it comes in handy during a pinch, but I'd rather my phone just last all day.

Yesterday was my first full day and I made it with 18 hours, 3 hours SOT, and about 20% left so I was happy. Hopefully it'll be slightly better once it has a couple charge cycles put through it so I don't have to watch the battery as close. I'll probably go with the Franco kernel and PA 3.99 this weekend though.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] webnizam:
Nexus s vs nexus 4,this comparison is not fair or justice yaar
[Nexus 4 General] RG3:
I have a Nexus 4 & LG Options G.

I like the Optimus G a tad bit more.
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Why? It seems pretty accurate seeing as how the nexus s is what 2 years old now which in the mobile industry is like a million years
[Nexus 4 General] gabo_e30:
Why? Removable storage? That's about it. But the nexus 4 has the latest software ...

All the other flaws (for example: colors) can be fixed installing the kernels from the great devs here ...
[Nexus 4 General] RG3:
13MP Camera, LTE here in Orlando, and the colors look a little better. Not sure why, But they do.

I got 4.3 on my Optimus G with no issues, It's truly a blessing that the Nexus & Optimus G share the exact same hardware, Minus the radios.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Nexus 4, But not as much as my Optimus G.

But at the end of the day, It's all just personal preference.
[Nexus 4 General] Aklesunio:
Just got a nexus 4 two days ago because it was super cheap and I was getting bored of my s3 (i9300).

I can't believe how much better the N4 is. It's way faster, smoother and has the latest version of Android. I did flash a 4.2.2 aosp rom on the s3 but it's not stable at all and gives horrific battery life.

The s3 lags badly from time to time and it tends to get very annoying after a while.

However the s3 does have some pro's. For example the s3 the camera, both front and back are way better on the S3 and it has a micro sd card slot which means you can get loads of storage.

Still overall for the best experience I would recommend N4. So unbelievably smooth and no lags at all.

In fact I'm selling the s3 pebble blue 16gb rooted with CrDroid rom for €300 if anyone is interested. I'll thrown in a case worth €15 as well.
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
The s3 is not worth 300€, especially a used one, just sayin'..
[Nexus 4 General] Aklesunio:
Oh okay, I just saw on a website few people sell it for that much. How much is it worth?
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Good night

Via my Nexus™ 7 FHD on Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 General] phreak24:
The quoted text is my post from March 1, 2013. So I've been using Nexus 4 for more than half a year already, and I have some very important updates to announce...

First of all, forget everything I said on March 1 except that Nexus 4 is definitely a better phone than Galaxy Nexus. But I can hardly imagine any phone worse than Galaxy Nexus anyway... lol. So what happened with my Nexus 4 that I hate it now almost as much as Galaxy Nexus? Here is the story...

In about a month after I started using the phone the nice gray bezel, which goes around the screen got a tiny scratch. I was under impression that the bezel is made of some kind of metal alloy, but guess what? ... it's just a painted plastic. Once it is scratched you can easily peel the paint even by your nail. WTF?! What's the point in having 'upscale' Gorilla glass on the front and back and cheap painted plastic bezel at the same time? But that was just the beginning...

I was very careful with my Nexus 4 and never dropped it even once. In a couple of months I noticed a long vertical crack on the back of the phone ending in the speaker hole. Since I carry the phone in my pants' side pocket all the time, there is obviously some small pressure applied to the phone's body when I sit at my desk or drive a car. But that small pressure was sufficient to cause a big crack in what is supposed to be Gorilla glass 2! And it is supposed to be stronger than iPhone 4 Gorilla glass!!! WTF???!!! I really don't care if it is gorilla glass or chimpanzee glass, but I never had this kind of issue even with cheap plastic phones!

And Google continues to use me as a beta software tester without paying me for it by blatantly refusing to fix major Android bugs reported a couple of years ago (like 'out if space' error).

Google, LG, why are you doing it to me? What have I done to deserve this? I really can't stand it any longer and will be buying iPhone 5s as soon as Apple replenish the stock after the record sales. Thanks God, iPhone 5s supports Wind Mobile frequencies.

ANDROID, GO TO HELL!!! NEXUS, GO TO HELL!!! SHAME ON YOU, GOOGLE, FOR TREATING YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE RETARDS!
[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
Would you rather they treat you like a fully functional member of society, which obviously you are not?

Enjoy iOS 7 with waterproofing. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] phreak24:
I guess you are right - fully functional members of society don't buy Android phones. :)
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Which you did.....if you don't like it that's fine but 1. Its just a phone 2.retard it an offensive thing to say 3.Get a new phone 4.might have been a defective unit,mines is fine I dropped it and didn't crack
[Nexus 4 General] monkor:
That sucks, bud. For what it's worth I just got mine. Dropped it twice today from about five feet and nothing happened. How long is your warranty? Might have a bad unit? Either way that's weak.

That being said, I've got the 5S too, and it's a really great phone. You'll love it, especially how convenient the TouchID is. But iOS 7 is pretty buggy so if you're not into being a gerbil, expect to be disappointed. Hope to see you back soon though!
[Nexus 4 General] seangeezy12:
This phone is amazing and I've been through a lot of phones. This by far is the best phone I've ever had!
[Nexus 4 General] phreak24:
Yes, 'retard' is an offensive word, but that's how I feel Google treats me. If Google's intention is to sell cheap crappy phones with buggy software, there is probably the market for that, but I don't like to be deliberately lied about 'cutting edge hardware'. From hardware point of view Nexus 4 is a cheap piece of crap, and Google knows it, and LG knows it, and now even I do.

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Any new software can be buggy initially, but the difference between Apple and Google is that Apple try to fix any bugs ASAP until it is perfect, and Google don't give a **** about major bugs reported long ago and let their customers 'enjoy' them after Android upgrades. Obviously this is done deliberately as Google have all the resources in the world to fix it.

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You probably haven't seen any better... I feel sorry for you.
[Nexus 4 General] seangeezy12:
^^^ I've had every nice phone to come out from the G1 to the iPhone 5 I've had them all bro...this phone is a great piece of work...just my opinion