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[Nexus 4 General] ian577416:
I'm sorry sarcasm doesn't carry over on the net very well, you're joking about the video rotate thing right?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
I was between n4 and s3 ichoose n4 cause of nexus with all his goods and ofcourse the price it didnt come yet but im wondering if i make the best decision depenting on the posts about heat screen problems etc!and ofcourse i didnt buy it to stay stock i flashed over 200roms on this huawei im on right now and cause i bought it from france via.my sister cause in greece its +150€ more expinsive i dont know how easy the rma could be for me!
[Nexus 4 General] gunnyman:
Best of both worlds here. Running a LG Optimus G converted to Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Even my Nokia N73 is capable of doing that rotate thing ;)
[Nexus 4 General] .coomb.:
No, because the N73 doesn't have a rotation sensor.
[Nexus 4 General] The.Penguin:
Well from my experience from the Xylon stock browser it doesn't do that. Not completely anyway. I assume, that it does on other browsers.
[Nexus 4 General] Zainiak:
This Is obvious. Facebook phone wins.

Please disregard typos.... Sent from my NeXuS 4
[Nexus 4 General] Rhala:
Xperia SP

Hey guys,

what do you think about the new Xperia SP? Can it compete with the Nexus 4? I know it has lesser RAM and only a 1.7GHz Dualcore, but it features an microsdcard slot, and its from sony, which i heard was quite developerfriendly :confused: also the little LEDs on the bottom are quite awesome, someone think it would have a chance against the Nexus? Not only considering the Custom ROM capability and the better updates by google :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Sony phones are historically disappointing.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Nexus 4 General] LooieENG:
Nexus 4 or HTC One S?

First impressions, the One S is MUCH better than this phone

However I am about to root it, and use it for a full week now, so will see if I just need to get used to it
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
You must be completely blind and have autism.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
Micro SD or 32gb would've made this phone perfect in my opinion. I have T-Mobile so I can still enjoy lte whenever it rolls out in the area. One thing I do miss from the s3 is the camera but I think the new HTC one will be the best camera phone. Nexus has an okay camera it all depends on the setting and lighting sometimes it looks amazing other times not so much
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Nexus 4 >> iPhone 5

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I really hope that was sarcasm lmao... Facebook home is retarded.
[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
Way the take a statement of opinion with out backing facts and bring the conversation down to a 12yo level.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion though in a thread like this such opinions are better received with some backing.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
You better PM an admin and get your username changed before you start receiving tons of spam. :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
Serious? It's like comparing a Ferrari to a civic. The dude has to have autism to think the one s is better.
[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
What do you guys think, should I pick up an N4 now that they're more available, or should I hold out another 6 months for the Nexus 5?
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
What is your current phone?
[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
I'm still trying to suck the last bit of life out of my Nexus S, haha.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
N4 is a worthy upgrade. It's up to you really, I don't know what I would do. Half a year is long time. Might as well get N4 and keep it till N4 6th gen.

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[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
Yeah, I might have to put some serious thought into this, lol. I just wish there were larger storage options for the N4, as I'm constantly having to shuffle around files on my current NS (which is also 16gb).
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
I highly suggest a nexus 4 then.
[Nexus 4 General] LooieENG:
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Posted some reasons below :o

Why bother coming in this thread if you get so upset over somebody else's opinion?

However, you're right

The HTC One S has the build quality of a Ferrari, where the Nexus 4 is a bit of glass and plastic like a Civic

The One S is a nicer, slimmer design (the sparkle effect on the back of the N4 is nice, but I would prefer metal to glass), the hardware has a better feel to it, more comfortable to hold, screen space not taken up by back/home buttons, better camera (apart from PhotoSphere).

On top of all of that (hardware related) HTC Sense looks nicer than stock Android, and the HTC apps are better (especially the Messaging and Phone apps - still can't find any perfect replacements in the market) AND even thought most people say it's bloated, the performance of the One S is still excellent and as responsive as the Nexus 4

Like I said, these are all first impressions. It might still take some getting used to, or I might never get used to it.

Hopefull I will end up liking it more because I don't know how many (if any) more upgrades the One S will get, and when :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] majinzen:
Htc Sense is software. I'll agree the metal unibody on the One S trumps plastic and glass but hardware wise the One S doesn't even compete.

One S = Dualcore, 1 gig of ram, and amoled.

Nexus 4 = Quadcore, 2 gigs of ram, and Lcd w/ higher resolution and pixel density.
[Nexus 4 General] LooieENG:
the RAM is faster on the One S though I think (DDR2 vs LPDDR2) and I've not seen either device use over 1GB (or the ~800MB you get on the One S)

I don't keep a lot of apps running in the background though. Also, I know people say ignore Quadrant, but I enabled "force GPU rendering" on the Nexus 4 and the score is a lot better now (better than the One S) but on the video bits, the Nexus 4 seems jerky while the One S is very smooth

both devices run GTA 3 fine on max graphics/res fine though

When it comes to performance, I'm not saying the One S is better than the Nexus 4, I'm just saying it doesn't seem like much of an improvement (yet)

Agree about the screen, it looks great on the Nexus 4, and I wish the One S had a HD screen, and as for the quad core CPU I need to check some apps and see which ones benefit the most fom that.
[Nexus 4 General] majinzen:
HTC One might be worth looking into. I prefer metal myself but I just can't stand HTC and Sense. Try Dice Player for video. Best player out there in my opinion. Plays everything and very smooth.
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
You are so wrong on so many levels. I'd rather not argue with anyone that prefers sense ui ROFL!!
[Nexus 4 General] malikadnanm:
Don't think calling him autistic was appropriate. But one s and and nexus 4 aren't even close. Nexus 4 beats it in every aspect.
[Nexus 4 General] Yaminashi:
You could also argue that sharper doesnt always mean better/less saturated. Everybody's preference is different so IMO you can't really define a screen as being better if the guy next to you has totally different preferences. What's amazing to you, might look so-so to someone else.

At least with the note 2, you can choose from several different screen modes to decrease saturation.

I myself have been on the fence about trying out a Nexus 4 for the past few months as my past few phones have been Nexus devices, but for some reason I just can't let go of my Note 2.

The vast range of features + amazing battery life wins me over.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Stick with the Note 2 mate. Take it from someone who has owned four different phones in the last year, including the Nexus 4, right now the Note 2 is the phone to beat. Even the S4 is a close second since it has a smaller screen.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
HTC One would be my next phone except that it doesn't have wireless charging and proper button arrangement. Sense can always be ROMed out and it's already been unlocked and all that jazz. Too bad HTC. Oh and updates.....we'll have to wait and see if it will even get 4.2
[Nexus 4 General] tlisak25:
This is by far the best phone and no one could get me to jump ship with gimmicks like beats audio and other junk. This is raw android at its best especially running paranoidandroid
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
One thing that maybe, maybe could make me go for One is camera. I have kids. But benefits of HTC are overweighted hugely by benefits of Nexus 4.

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[Nexus 4 General] tlisak25:
Please explain why u feel as if the note 2 is the phone to beat because u have to have hands like lebron James to hold it. Or is it cause of the s pen that is about useless

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Nevermind I figured it out. Its that awesome touchwiz ui. Lol
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
HTC One S has better camera & sound. Its also lighter and slimmer.

So its not beat in every aspect ;)
[Nexus 4 General] tlisak25:
Will the one ever see key lime pie. Doubt it. But I bet the nexus does. Every high end phone has one selling point but overall the nexus for the price is the best of the best on all aspects
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
it depends what your needs are.

I wanted a light handset (sub 125g) prefer 4.3inch with good camera and sound. Also something more durable than glass back.

Nexus 4 is not the phone for me I prefer the One S
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
I consider the note 2 already beaten by this phone as the majority of the specs best it.

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Gtfo already.
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
i'm about to buy the One S instead of the nexus 4 . Do you think i'm insane? :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Tunderpimp:
I'm a traffic engineer I've dropped my N4 in the road countless times, but it's in a cruzer lite case. My phone doesn't have a scratch.

My camera is great, if I need professional photos I have a professional camera.

As for the sound it's great.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] bustem:
I do:D
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
its a nice phone no doubt but its a fact the One S camera is significantly better. Spec wise and results wise. Samsung S5K3H2Y 8 MP 1/3.2-inch CMOS sensor vs Nexus 4 Sony IMX111 8MP 1/4.0“ CMOS sensor then you have HTC ImageChip ISP which allows burst fire mode etc. If you could swap the HTC camera stuff into nexus 4 you would be insane to say no.

HTC One S has the exact same camera system as One X which is regarded as one of the best last year. Only the front cam sucks on the HTC One S but i can live with it
[Nexus 4 General] tlisak25:
I think your crazy. Why go to a phone that is not pure android and has sense ui and will wait forever to get updated. I will never own another phone or tablet other than nexus.

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Why is everyone so concerned about the camera. Go buy an actual camera if u want the best specs pic wise. This is pure android vs sense touchwiz and all the other bs ui's out there. Dollar for dollar the nexus is hands down the best you can get
[Nexus 4 General] Tunderpimp:
When I buy a phone it isn't all about the camera, because I catch all of my favorite moments with a real camera everything thing else is for the phone
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
I have nexus 7 and like pure android too

but it's not the most important thing for me when buying my next smartphone. I actually like the extras you get with sense like widgets and other features. I think i could root the one s and run vanilla jellybean? if its possible i eventually would but vanilla android is very bare bones . Updates would be nice but jellybean is a very fully featured phone OS. It would do everything i need at the end of the day without needing another update.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Ffs, can't you just agree to disagree? People have different tastes, needs, interests. Stop trying to convince other side that YOUR opinion is correct for all. It is for you.

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[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
That's because he has a different opinion. You prefer stock android but I think it's very boring. Different opinions, no one is wrong.
[Nexus 4 General] tlisak25:
I agree everyone has different tastes. I have just been doing this since the g1 and try to get ppl to understand that unless they wanna buy phones outright 2yrs locked in is along time. Who knows what key lime pie will bring and the new nexus but to each is own and hope u all enjoy whatever phone u decide to buy.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
It is for those who have used both GS 3 and nexus 4.

Can u plz tell us the difference in screen size of these two phones? Coz buttons in N4 are part of the screen size, and i read somone saying it makes the usable screen of N4 small. Is it true? How much smaller it is as compared to GS3?

Plz dont take it wrong, i have never used N4, only that is why asking. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Tunderpimp:
I couldn't stand the buttons at the bottom so I use pie control
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Battery life, removable battery, camera, expandable storage, screen size, FMRadio. s-pen may be useless to some but it's very useful to others.

I have small problems and using the n2 is not an issue. N4 is a great phone for the price but the note outclasses it in every area except for the speed of software updates. TouchWiz isn't even bad like you make it out to be it has many enhancements over vanilla Android.

The tone of your post implies that you are a fan boy and take things way too personally.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Nexus 4 General] nikhil16242:
Since when is a larger display at a much lesser dpi (267ppi to be exact) considered as an advantage? On top of the poor pixel density , the note 2 doesn't feel as comfortable as the nexus 4 in hand.

PS : I really hate amoled displays as well ( A pure personal preference)

As far as battery life is concerned , my n4 easily gets through a full days use. I usually charge my device overnight anyway , so I would do this even if I had a note 2.

A 16gb nexus 4 is more than capable of handling all the contents I put into my device. For the rest of my media I use my drop box for streaming. So , this again is not an issue for me.

Yes , you are right about the camera. Note 2 does have a better camera than n4. But , I don't use my device as a camera too much. So personally don't have an issue with it.

And as far as Radio goes... Meh

Dont even get me started with Touchwiz lol..

So , you most certainly cant say a Note 2 "Outclasses" a Nexus 4. Both are great devices with their own advantages.And it purely goes down to a personal preference basis , when you have to choose between an n4 and a note2.

And dont call us "Fanboys" just because the reply we give is not what you expect. Judging from your replies , you are as much of a :Fanboy: as I am.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Just thought I'd chime in here, having owned several Samsung products (Galaxy S2, S3, Tab 2) and now the Nexus 4.

One thing I think gets overlooked is build quality. The T-Mobile version of the Galaxy S2 was actually a decent construction.. I still think it's one of the most solid Galaxy line phones to date.. But the Note 2 is basically an oversized version of the S3 which gives a cheap, plastic on glass feel that never really impressed me. It feels fragile, even more fragile than an all glass phone like the Nexus 4. Regardless of the fact that when dropped the S3 or Note 2 might have better luck surviving depending on how it lands.. that creaky, flimsy plastic back with the ever so easily marred hyper glaze gives a really cheap feel to a premium device. No such feel with the Nexus 4.

Now Samsung did nail it with the construction on the Tab 2 10.1, but as far as their phone lines goes the Nexus 4 outclasses in every aspect of build quality IMO. You can't ignore that of you're going to tally up the differences.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I own both phones. Hardly a fan boy but obviously I only carry around one device on a daily basis. It's not the Nexus. Your second to last post was insulting mate, the overtone was of mockery so of course it's hard to expect not to be insulted back.

For a few weeks I was a nexus "fan boy" then I tried a note. While it seems in the surface to be too big in fact it's not and perfectly usable with one hand, even a small hand like mine.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Nexus 4 General] nikhil16242:
Ok... So let me get this straight. You come to this thread and call us Fanboys. But when I say the same to you... You feel insulted:confused:.

Wow, great to hear that. But I don't want to continue this argument anyway. So, you be happy with your note 2 and I will be happy with my n4 :)
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I have owned both the nexus 4 ( had 3 nexus 4) and note 1 ( had 2 note 2). First of all, There isn't a phone that I can think of that is more fragile than the N4. Seriously, I can't think of something else. If you don't believe me go check out some drop test, if you think that the N4 can survive better than a note 2 than I don't know what to say.

Second, the note 2 is more solid than the S3. The S3 is fragile yes, if you drop it, chances are that you're gonna have some type of crack on the screen ( I speak from personal experience and YouTube vids as well as other users feedback). I dropped the Note 2 and it was way better than the S3, didn't crack anything, only the battery cover comes out. That is actually how Samsung phones are, you dropped them and everything separates to kind of distribute the shock.

And finally, people always complain about Samsung plastic. It isn't the best ( like the Lumia or One X polycarbonate) but it is more durable than glass. It's also cheaper to replace since its "cheap". So it does have some advantages.

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You're right for the most part of your post. But I wouldn't piss on the note 2 screen, it's very good despite the lesser ppi.

I know you say that battery life and storage isn't an issue for you on the N4 but nevertheless, those are clear advantages that the Note 2 has over the N4, battery life and storage options. Camera and features as well. But again, it all comes down to personal opinion, we can't expect every smartphone in the world to buy a note 2 or a N4, choices folks!
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
I never said it was more fragile than the Nexus 4. I said it FEELS more fragile. I'm talking about the lack of quality feeling from having the S3 in my hand, cleaning it off, setting it down, removing and replacing the back cover. Handling both the S3 and the Nexus 4 without a case, the Nexus build FEELS more solid. The Galaxy line feels like a fragile kids toy. Just my opinion
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Then why did you just continue it?

You're a strange one. I'll carry on enjoying my Note 2, Nexus 4 and S3 though. Best wishes.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Nexus 4 General] Girn:
The camera is terrible. Look at the reviews of it vs s4 and even other phones
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
After having owned HTC One x, nexus 4, gs3 in the last year I can say I'm loving this Xperia Z. First Sony phone I've tried and I'm impressed. Would still have the nexus if it had bigger storage and better camera. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
its better than nexus 4 camera. It has the same camera system as the One X, it has a bigger cmos sensor than the nexus 4 and destroys it in low light photo and video. It also has HTC imagechip which gives burst fire mode etc.

Nexus 4 camera performs good in well lit conditions.
[Nexus 4 General] Techguy18:
xperia z has a horrible screen.. it cant even display black.. all you can see is grey.. the camera might be better but overall the phone sucks.. the software is bad and buggy
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Not quite destroys it. A bit better? Yes. Still not as good as an iPhone 5 or Lumia 920. As far as overall image quality goes, I really don't see what HTC was thinking to introduce the "Ultrapixel". The shots I've seen are grainy, soft, and look as bad as my old Galaxy Nexus. :/

Sent from my Nexus 4 on T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
I'm talking about the HTC One S not the HTC One.

as for the HTC One its camera has not disapointed everyone http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/7
[Nexus 4 General] Linsanity:
I had just switched back to One X a couple days ago and sold after two days. I was sick of how slow it was. HTC always had nice designs but build quality is not a Ferrari. They always have dust behind the lcd problem and sense is just poop and laggy
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Who's ditching nex4 for the s4?

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[Nexus 4 General] LooieENG:
Beats Audio no

HTC BoomSound, yes!

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Are you autistic and blind? (according to this thread you must be if you like the One S)

The One S is a great phone though, I recommend it :good:
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
cool thanks. for people where weight, camera & durability (i drop my phone all the time) are not the most important things nexus 4 is a good buy.

I go running with my phone strapped to my arm so want a light handset under 125g. My current phone is 130g and i find it just a bit on the heavy side i couldn't go any heavier. Nexus 4 is 140g far too heavy the One S is 119g. I also listen to music while running so sound is important too and with a good camera it has me sold. Nexus 4 has nice screen and monster gpu but i dont play games much tbh so i can do without. It doesnt suit my needs like the one s does.

but if you want the latest updates , nice screen & monster processor. Nexus 4 is an amazing buy.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
In all honesty, i think iphone would suit your needs best.

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[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I am

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Yeah you're right I guess. The N4 does feel more solid.
[Nexus 4 General] yeti101:
. I'd rather stick hot needles in my eyes than buy an apple device.

anyway my budget i could only get 4 or 4s and they are 140g too heavy with glass back so they dont fit my needs either.

Ultimately it came down to the galaxy s2 or htc one s. Both very light with good cameras but the HTC has much better cpu/gpu , better low light camera and higher res screen.
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
Bad and buggy software?? Lol.

No blacks. Lol.

None of those issues here mate.

Deep blacks with mod.

Strong WiFi with mod.

Quality construction and feel.

Viewing angles are a bit iffy for someone sitting 2m away on a 80 degree angle but I can live with that.

Ahh. And 64gig Sd card fitted = 80gig.

LTE.

OTG.

Music quality through 3.5mm to home system is just amazing.

Even the phones loudspeaker is loud enough considering what some reviewer's have said.

Call quality and reception smokes Gs3 and n4.

Overall the phone is very fast and solid sorry mate.

If it wasn't I'd be rocking an n4 still.

It will do until moto x.
[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
Calling either phone a civic is a bit harsh. I actually like the industrial design of HTC devices but both have a solid , quality feel too them. The HTC one does benefit in the performance department from debuting six months or so later than the nexus 4 but that's the march of tech.

I know sense is much maligned in the nexus forums, but I've still got a soft spot for it from the windows mobile days when it was about all making widows mobile look good.

For me personally I value to pure android, relatively quick updates and XDA community aspects of the nexus to feel that the nexus 4 is still be the phone to beat.

Ask me again in 6 month when the rumored "just right" sized motophone comes out and I'll probably sing a different tune. 4.7" is ever so slightly too big for me v
[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
I guarantee that any difference you may have "felt" in a 5 gram difference was entirely placebo.