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[Nexus 4 General] blendobass:
For a Musician, a film maker, and a writer, this phone is completely useless and there is dozens of phones much better suited.

- Can't use USB otg, - no $5 used cheap keyboard while traveling

- Can't use external mic, that really sucks.

- Can't edit video as good as the iphone.

- Can't use SD cards as a musician to switch the card back and forth with a mac for super quick transfer of 30+ gig files.

- Can't take the rugged abuse the people that use their phones for creative things tend to do with them.

I am sure this phone is good for some but if you really need to creative I think you need an iphone, even iphone 3 blows this out of the water for recording and garage band, the 4s completely blows this out of the water in every usefull way but a few specs.

ALso the screen sucks, it is way to big, I might as well get a ipad mini and have full creative potential.

I can't think of anyone in the real world that would need this other than a gamer, and that I am not.:good:

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LOL, the iphone is 10x better in everyday use, better size, one handed usage, huge support for musicians. You can paint on it, you can edit movies, you can have mulit track recordig with external mics, the battery lasts almost double, the construction is by far the best in the industry.

ALso there is only one iphone so all the apps work perfect with each other.

I can't think of a single reason android is even around except some people like to tweek settings and it made smartphones available to cheap or poor people - maybe the last bit is fair thou,most people can't afford an iphone.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Sorry mate, but this is YOUR opinion and for YOUR use. There are a lot of things I use that iOS can't do.

Friendly advice,if you don't want to get flamed (quite rightfully BTW in this case), please stop giving YOUR OPINION as a fact. Some other musicians might enjoy the flexibilities when it comes to sharing files etc.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
That's one of the most comical, ignorant posts I've ever read on any forum...EVER...lol. I could literally write a book listing all the reasons Android trumps the iPhone, but I won't do that. You know why?...because they would mostly be my opinions. You must either be a kid or a midget if the N4 is too big/uncomfortable for your hands. You have very specific needs for a phone that most people don't have...but I love your self centric attitude. I really detest people like yourself...you have made me lose 3 mins of my life just responding to you...haha. Go enjoy your baby phone and garage band...lolol.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
And I thought is was a nexus 4 vs any other phone thread.:confused::confused:

R.I.P to Steve Jobs, I think even he would call you delusional for thinking the iPhone 4s blows the nexus 4 out of the water. Besides, its your fault if you're that disappointed with the nexus 4, it wasn't made to play guitar and sell out Madison square garden!
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
ummmm no the iPhone is the epitome of boring and dumbed down tech. A child can use the phone without any knowledge of tech. The iPhone is basically just a fancy launcher it doesn't really do anything other than launch apps. It doesn't support widgets doesn't multitask in any real sense and barely uses its tech inside. The reason its so successful the average sheeple around the world can barely boot up their computers without assistance.

sent from one of the NEXUS twins 4 or 7.....
[Nexus 4 General] Utini:
So after watching and reading a lot of review it seems like:

Nexus 4 vs S3:

Camera: S3 (when watching video recordings from both phones the S3 clearly wins.. image wise the S3 is just a little bit better)

Performance: Nexus 4 is a little bit faster / smoother.. maybe due to the newer OS

Design: For me the Nexus 4

OS: Nexus 4 because it gets updates faster

Display: Nexus 4 wins here.. but I think the S3 isn't bad either

Price: In my country with my contract - S3 is cheaper.. without contract the Nexus 4 would win

But the again.. if I root the S3 I would basically have the better Camera, maybe same performance and same OS as the Nexus 4.

So in my case, altough I really loved the Nexus 4 from the first moments I saw it, I guess I will buy the S3.

Or are there any reasons not to ? E.g. will the camera get fixed ? .. the Camera is my main problem with the Nexus 4 vs S3.. video recordings from the Nexus 4 are terribly bad compared to the S3).

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Ariozo:
S3 is(was) a nice device, I love the nexus for the dev. Support. But for me it lacks 2 things for my day usage.. Storage and Camera.

Compare to other high end mobiles it is not as good. And 16gb for myself is to little, even with cloud service.

Using my PadFone2 now, and seems for my use to be the perfect trade. Asus small changes and other then that more clean android. Good camera and 64gb storage, ofc it have some faults to, but you just need to find the device with the "minus" on the spots you not use as much and you will be fine. There is no such thing as a perfect phone yet... :)

Skickat från min PadFone 2 via Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
There never will be because peoples usage varies so dramatically and what they need/desire is drastically different

sent from one of the NEXUS twins 4 or 7.....
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
You guys really need to do more research. There are quite a few iPhone level smaller Androids around.

Xperia V, Acer Cloudmobile, and the meizu MX quad. Heck, even the Xperia S and One S count. Sure the Xperia S uses an outdated CPU and the One S has a weak screen but its not like the iPhone ever had a special CPU until the iPhone 5.

The Xperia V and Cloudmobile both have smaller 342 ppi 720p 4.3 inch screens, both have dual core kraits(same class as the iPhone 5 A6), both have pretty good build quality etc. so Apple being the only ones doing it is false. Plenty of quality smaller phones around. The Meizu Mx is pretty much a 4 inch international GS3 except it is 288 ppi RGB LCD instead of 306 ppi pentile AMOLED.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
After week of using this and Note 2 waiting in the shelf I am actually turning to Note mostly because of battery life differences. Nothing can beat Note it's just too good but I was hoping that nexus would be ok enough too.

Unfortunately out of the box battery life is horrible and I have to fully charge phone when going out or I will be without phone and yesterday after being out for 12 hours battery died and left me phoneless.

Maybe will try this franco kernel but it's amazing how badly stock is doing and no fix yet from Google.

Reason I wanted to try this is because Samsung tends to be a bit slow with updates. And was in some fantasy land thinking that with Google device this massive bugs would be fixed in a week at least.

It's still hard to let go of this device because it feels in the hand most comfortable. I just love touching it. Apart from volume controls which seems to be maybe just a tiny bit loose.
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus-S:
Utter claptrap.

Those phones you mention are mid-range Androids, not high-end. Not even comparable to the iPhone 5.

Even Sony admits that it's current top-of-the-range Xperia T isn't even a viable rival for the iPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] Utini:
Storage wise I don't have a problem with 16GB.. actually I don't want a SD-Card anymore. So both phones are fine.

If the Nexus 4 just had a better Camera... and I don't get it. When making pictures the difference isn't that big.. but in video recordings the Nexus 4 is just terrible !
[Nexus 4 General] aggieman:
Single dumbest statement I've seen on this forum and that's quite an accomplishment considering some of the crap people spew out of their mouth. I go through about 7-10 phones a year all of them off contract. Just because there are a few cheap phones it has nothing to do with android being cheap or for the poor. And if you really are worried about the poor being able to afford a phone there are iPhone that are now cheap or free on contract. Typical Apple elitist BS statement. I've had each iPhone except the 4s. Other than the original I was unimpressed and sold each within a month. I can do anything an iPhone 5 can do with my Note 2 and then some.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I wouldn't waste my time on this guy if I were you, dude is a tool.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
Anybody else eying the Xperia ZL?

5 inch 1080p with onscreen buttons

the Z is waterproof up to 1m and the ZL is just a tad smaller than the s3

If they open this up like they did with the xperia x that would just be perfect.
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
No, neither Odin nor Yuga are even comparable to LG's new beast G2

No, there is such thing as the perfect phone and Galaxy S3 is shure not a such thing. It's LG G2 that is perfect, its rumored to have 3Gigs of ram

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Who might even care for these Chinese Sony's cr@p (sorry for french)? This G2 beast will truely shine above all and beyond
[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
Who cares about G2. LG software support sucks. The reason why this LG N4 is selling well is not only because of the price.
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
likewise who cares about software support? Only ones who buy smartphones for like 10 years and expect to get latest and greatest android 4.2 on their year 2002 devices. Cause they haven't enough money. When you hold in your hand glass covererd perfect beast with S4 Prime and 3G ram and some 3,5Ah battery why would you care of software supports? This thing "just works", what software support you need for thing that just works?

What doesn't work is CM, always alpha, always buggy, always battery eater, always BSODs, crap
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
Currently I am using Galaxy S3 and I am planning to buy Nexus 4. My question is

It is worth upgrade?? From galaxy S3 to nexus 4.

What u guys recommend???
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
S4 prime is not for phones.

Edit. I take that back.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Yes & no, if you like stock android then YES!! its a solid fast phone no complaints although I've sold/traded two I've had.

GS3 touchwiz its okay, Camera is better than n4, battery is too

All up to you, cant go wrong either way you choose.
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
Finally i planned to buy n4 and sell S3.

But don't know how and from where to buy it :confused: because LG not released n4 in India yet and play store also not sell it in India :(
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
ITs prolly never going to launch in india , So u either wait for google to sell it again and make sure u buy it via one of the forwarding websites .

or u buy it off ebay india .

but its like 35k
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
I would say no. SGS3 Has better battery, Camera and there are some clever innovations with the software which are lacking from stock android.
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
Yes. It is really not for phones, for cheap subpar Chinese plasticky phones like all that Galaxy stuff. But who cares? It's made for superphones and superphones got Prime
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
First off it's not an upgrade bit a side grade you are talking about here. Each device has different strengths and weaknesses but overall they are a very equal match. S3 has better camera, storage, and battery life. N4 is faster, has better software support, and (arguably) better screen and overall look.

I just sold my s3 and I don't regret it at all. I did know what I was in for as I've run Cyanogenmod and more recently aokp on my devices for years. I've owned all three nexus devices prior to this one so for someone like me who prefers aosp style experience it's a no brainer.

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[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
LG has a minuscule dev community even compared to sony. I doubt the g2 will be much better than the Xperia ZL.

Also, Sony is japanese and they have very good build quality.

If LG just did something *very* close to stock with say 18 months of updates then hell yeah I'd be down but alas.

The only reason I'm even thinking about the Nexus 4 is because google is behind it in therms of sofware.
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
How is it utter claptrap? Everything I said is true to a tee. Both have higher resolution and ppi compared to the iphone 5, both have dual core CPU's that are in between older ARM A9 and newer ARM A15 just like the iphone 5. Both use the exact same internals as other Android flagships such as the GS3 and HTC One X. 720p, same internals as a One X and GS3 (Qualcomm S4 Krait), heck the Xperia V is even waterproof.

I don't know what kind of cracked out world you live in but facts are facts. Just because your viewpoint is ridiculously skewed it doesn't mean the facts change.

Please tell me then, what would make them flagships besides a bigger screen? And don't tell me a Qualcomm S4 pro or an Exynos 5520 because a very very select few of super elites have those. Most of the Qualcomm S4 pro phones like the Padfone 2 and Oppo 5 are not even available here yet.

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Not flagship enough according to Nexus S because once the GS4, HTC M7, and iPhone 6 comes out Sony will be forced to say the same thing about it as they said with the Xperia T. Unless this one actually sells of course.
[Nexus 4 General] Drike19:
I have been eyeing these two beauties, I might consider selling my N4 and grab one of these. I like the ZL because its a 5 inch but in a smaller frame.
[Nexus 4 General] tito jeebs:
I am in the same position!

Nexus 4: fast updates, devs, and CHEAP PRICE!

Xperia Z(L): 1080p, micro sd, walkman(i listen to a lot of music), waterproof, and possibly better battery life?

Both look like they have good build quality :)

I probably will choose the n4 just for the fact i want to get into development and don't feel like signing a contract but still it looks tempting
[Nexus 4 General] Drike19:
yeah its basically whether or not I want to spend the extra money to get them but I figure with how much N4s are selling on craigslist and ebay I might just do it.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
Yeah... I still cant believe I've gone nearly 2 months without a smartphone phone...

Anybody remember how long it took for the gnex and s3 to become staidly stocked?
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
Been looking for a comparison of the international s3 on 4. 1. X against the nexus 4, can't find it on YouTube, only us model or 4. 0. X s3.

any article or video review would be awesome!

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[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
whoever says software is not important, think again... nowadays where almost every phones specs are the same, the deciding factor is the software support. What I was trying to say about LG and Nexus is LG is not touching Nexus in terms of software support, google is and that is a good think. Go and read up this forum and you will realize that many LG users are making noise and will never get another LG OEM phone irregardless of whether the XDA and CM developers are good and supportive because without official source code release from say LG, YOUR PHONE WILL NEVER HAVE A LATEST STABLE OS! ok... pardon me for the capital letters.
[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
This. Hell, just about any phone you can buy these days will be obsolete in ~6 months if you don't factor in software updates. I love Android as a platform, which is why I will always stick with Nexus devices, or at least devices from manufacturers who actually push updates for phones that are < a year old.

My Nexus S, while completely obsolete hardware and spec-wise, still functions perfectly for me on 4.2.1 Jelly bean, and it's over 2 years old! phones like a GS3 which are less than 8 months old don't even have 4.2.1 yet, and that's what pisses me off about android.
[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
I learnt it the hard way with Optimus 2x. That's why from now onwards, I will always get a Nexus phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Your logic is pretty backwards. The GS3 is less than 8 months old and it already got it's first major update at around 6 months. That is quite good if you consider that it took the iphone 4s, and most likely the iphone 5 too, 11 months to get it's first major update.

The real solution, whether you Nexus lovers like it or not, is for Google to keep their pants on and limit their updates to annually like everyone else. That way even LG can keep up and the fans can shut the hell up about Android being fragmented. For example, there is absolutely no reason for the Nexus 7 to release 4 months before the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10. If they released them all at once with Android 4.1, then the Samsung and HTC flagships would already have caught up by now. The way Google releases updates like Rabbits breed is doing no one any favors. The Droid DNA and Note 2 shouldn't have an update released a few months after their release, period.

Google should have a set release once a year that always occurs exactly on that date so OEMs can actually plan ahead instead of assuming 4.1 would be the latest update for sure. That way Samsung and HTC could have delayed the Note 2 and HTC DNA by one month so they both have Android 4.2.
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
Things I love about my RaZr:

1. GPU (PowerVR SGX 540 @ 300 MHz) - Awesomely fast in everything. Well if the phone lags, that's cause of the OS and not the GPU.

2. MotoCast (Wirelessly pull files..HELL YEA!)

3. Smart Actions (As I walk in to my home, office, my other home, the settings change automatically)

4. Slim and very stylish looks

Now let's see what neXus 4 has got to make me dump my RaZr...
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
No, not japanese, they manufacture smartphones in China albeit being a japanese based company hense bad overall build quality of their products

I couldn't care less. You trying to tell that in a week ahead you will buy LG G2 and trade it for GalS3 ONLY for one reason: having a lots of roms? U kidn' me
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Also sometimes the fast update is not so good thing. I would say that Android 4.2 is a disaster. I just realized that if I have bt headset on and try to stream music thru wifi it just drops out soon. Either my bt just seems to disconnect or then wifi icon gets grey and I loose my internet connection.

Going to airplane mode will fix it for a while.

Never had this kind of problems before with 4.1. I actually think that Google should maybe roll back to 4.1 if they can't provide fix very quickly. Just disaster like this and tomorrow I will take my Note 2 back into business.
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
NO! thats UTTER and complete BS I read here and there. What browser you can't install say onto GB 2.3 phone? What game you can't play w/o having latest android 4.2? You mp3s stopped playing on GB 2.3 cause them people who got SGS2, achieved android 4.1 for their phones? I'm glad they got it but I continue to surf xda in browser, and listen to music and whatnot on my old obsolete OS
[Nexus 4 General] molesarecoming:
dude, previous versions all had issues that were flattened out in later revisions. **** happens. remember when ics would drop your calls for instance? speaker-gate, wifi-gate? to use that as an argument against nexus is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. especially samsung ... their whacked out interpretation of ics back then was a fall out, literally nothing worked as it should. their kernels put countless of devices to death. their security holes have put millions at risk. dont get all psyched up about the little skin they're making there. android goes through drastic changes and that obviously brings some trouble. fast updates are your only chance of getting through it without much harm.
[Nexus 4 General] vainqueur:
HA! I think it is you who dont understand, I didnt say I will get LG G2 and trade it for S3 or whatever for lots of ROMS because in the first place, I will not even get LG G2 as LG support sucks. Whatever... Go ahead and get LG G2 and dont come crying to XDA making noise about your LG G2 not up to date anymore when Nexus4 is always faster to get updates than any phones out there or even OEM like samsung are updating their phones to their ability.

If you ever start noticing things around XDA, the thing that makes a different is the software support be it official support or the fantastic 3rd party development around here.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Why don't you just agree to disagree?
[Nexus 4 General] bundi22:
Can anyone talk about the S3 with CM10 or CM10.1 vs the Nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
A lot of people don't care about software updates as long as their phone is doing what they need it to do...the group on here is in the large minority. I have the Note 2 and I honestly could care less if any "update" is released because it literally is the perfect phone for me and has no bugs (that I have found anyway). I flash ROMs for the fun of it because I am slightly addicted, but that is purely for fun...I would be fine with the stock OS, and I believe a majority of people would agree with me. When a manufacturer does it right...no need for updates.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Completely agree with you. Samsung hit the spot with Note 2. Everyone praising how fast Nexus 4 is and yes I agree this really is fast.

But then I take Note 2 side by side against Nexus 4 and I can't see the difference which one is faster but somehow Note 2 feels faster, there is something raw evil power in that machine.

If they just didn't make that ugly plastic back..With Nexus 4 I am not sure which side I am looking more, the beautiful back side or the beautiful screen.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
That was my thinking. Then I realised that because of my "luck" Google will bring out some extremely cool and helpful features and I'll be sitting there with Note 2 waiting for an update.

Sent from my fridge. Make:LG Model:N4
[Nexus 4 General] jrdnlc:
I want to make the switch from the iPhone 5 to the N4 but can't decide if I should or not.

I really love the iCloud features, iTunes Match and iMessage.
[Nexus 4 General] Nuissl5c:
I switched from the iPhone 4 to an intermediary SGS2, to test the platform out. You should first have a go for a couple of days in usage with something cheaper, before making a decision to purchase another high end device. :)
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
No software is perfect. 4.2 brings many benefits and the odd bug just like any other update. Calling it a disaster is totally blasting things out of proportion.

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[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
I don't know how popular WhatsApp is where you live, but here in the Netherlands everyone and their grandmother uses it, even if they have an iPhone. No one uses SMS anymore, and certainly not iMessage.

This is only helpful if more people you usually chat with are or are willing to use WhatsApp.
[Nexus 4 General] jrdnlc:
That's the problem here, mostly everyone i know owns an iPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
Well, that's the case anywhere in the world. But still everyone uses WhatsApp here, and not iMessage. Basically everyone I have contact with uses WhatsApp (thus has a smartphone), and probably more than 50% of those people has an iPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] mrjimyjohn:
I didn't say that older versions of android are bad, but if you don't agree that for example 4.2 has more features, is more powerful/smooth and is better overall than 2.3 you're simply wrong, so shut your ****ing mouth.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
name a company that dosnt