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[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Nexus phone trumps the one x and the galaxy s iii because the software is guaranteed to be updated almost instantly a new version of android comes out.

I'm sick of flashing aosp roms that only 90% work to other non nexus phones.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
It only trumps those phones if the latest and greatest updates are most important to you. Everyone has their own reasons why a phone "trumps" another.
[Nexus 4 General] deezid:
Had a note 2 before. It was nowhere near as smooth as the Nexus 4 is. Sense and Tochwiz bloatware are performance killers!

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] ven4545:
Amazing benchmark on my nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
^^^^^

what app benchmark is That? I think I got 2100 geekbench 2 score

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[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Antutu

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You dumped a Note 2 for the N4? Now that makes no sense unless you have small hands :/
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
And this means what???;);)
[Nexus 4 General] kioshi:
grab a snack and watch this comparison review. Best opinion given... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZp6YGBEW0

Quadrant scores have no meaning..real world tests matter more.

I'm on car forums and people talking about quadrant scores sound like the people on car forums showing off Dyno sheets to show who's faster...

Prove it in the real world..show your phone can drive/handle good in the real world out on pavement.
[Nexus 4 General] ven4545:
That the phone is a monster ;)
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Ive had the lumia 920 for 3 hours so it might be to early to do an in depth comparison, but a few things that id like to share:

The lumia has a sturdier build quality, it is definitely heavier than the nexus, but it isnt as heavy as people say on the internet. I thought it was gonna be really heavy, but it feels great in the hand. The screen is better on the lumia but not by much. the colors are more vibrant. The lumia is insanely fast and smooth throughout the OS, UI is super fluid. Camera button is a plus.I love the different colors of the lumia, got mine in red and it looks like a ferrari. Also the keyboard feels great to type on, i dont make any mistakes typing fast.

The nexus has android, which is in my opinion the superior OS. Customisable to the core, literally, more apps ( i miss tapatalk already), much better multitasking, notifications are second to none ( people dont realize this but it is so great and easy to manage notifications),bigger screen (although about the same in use cause of the soft keys, except vids) i personally love photosphere, swype keyboard is cool, widgets of course and rooting and all that good stuff.

I really enjoy the lumia but its been only a few hours so im still on the "new phone excitement" phase. I will make a more in depth comparision in a few days or a week. Peace!
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Windows Phone has a tapatalk alternative...I can't think of the name of it at the moment, but it's pretty good. I used to use it with my Lumia 900.

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That's an awesome comparison...probably one of the best I've seen on YouTube. Thanks for sharing.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
yeah, I think its board expresss. I
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
When you will get 4.2 there would be 5.0 out already
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
If he gets 4.2.

HTC are shockingly bad at updating their devices.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Tell me about it... I have a bad grudge against htc update policy.
[Nexus 4 General] dnkbro:
I'm torn between the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S3. I work at T-Mobile so I can get the 32GB S3 for the same price as a 16GB Nexus 4 via the Play Store (although the Nexus 4 is obviously sold out for the time being). I have been an iPhone user for 4 years (3GS and currently using a 4S) and I don't have too many complaints other than the lack of customization and outdated UI. I've been leaning towards the Nexus 4 because I do not like the cartoon look and feel of Touchwiz. The huge draw of pure Android without the bloatware is heavily influencing my decision. I know I can get an S3 and root and flash it, but it seems that most custom roms have their own sets of issues. I've grown accustomed to having my phone just "work" and bad memories of dealing with the Nokia N95 and Symbian OS make me not want to go the rooting route. I work 60-70 hours a week between my two jobs and I don't have time to constantly follow threads, nightly builds, etc, flashing new roms to get my phone working at 100%. Apple really has spoiled me with the OTA updates (although iOS 6 has kind of sucked). Reports of the Nexus 4 having battery issues and poor audio performance (I do plan on using Google Music a lot to stream my music) steer me back towards the S3. I simply can't decide between the two. Lack of SD card reader and removable battery do not concern me at all. I don't take many pictures with my phone so I don't care about the camera.

Nexus 4

-Stock Android with fastest OTA updates

-Beautiful design

-Battery issues

-LG made

-Easy to break glass

-Softnav keys (I prefer the S3's physical home button)

-Poor audio

Galaxy S3

-Larger screen with more usable area (no softnav)

-Better battery life

-Better audio quality

-Touchwiz and Samsung apps

-Must root and flash to get phone the way I want (never done before)

Despite wanting the Nexus 4, due to lack of availability, I might just get the S3 and throw on Nova Prime. I really don't want to root my phone but I think I might end up having to do that.

Any suggestions? Sorry my post is all over the place.
[Nexus 4 General] tamshiwen:
Really can't go wrong with either one. I got the nexus 4, simply because it was it was 350 unlocked straight up(no tmobile employee discount), and coming from a motorola defy, I have absolutely have no complaints. I wish it had a removable battery and microsd support, but I never got an extra battery for my defy and barely filled up half my storage space(8gb microsd) with music and podcasts. The gs3 is a very popular phone, so there are no worries about lack modding and support. Rooting is quite easy, and if you really want to get the phone exactly the way you want it, you should give it a try. I'm running cm10 nightlies on the n4 which is allready very stable and full of awesome extra features. I say choose the one you feel fits your needs the best and root it, and then you'll have exactly the phone you want to use.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
As someone who currently owns both I can say it's a tough call. My experience has been that the battery life of the nexus is quite acceptable but definitely not as quite as good as the galaxy.

At this point I think I'll roll with the nexus since I think it looks more sexy and I prefer the clean software with good update support. Updates aren't bad on the galaxy either but they are a lot slower.
[Nexus 4 General] shadow071506:
I'm still torn up to now between the NEXUS 4 and the GALAXY NOTE 2... can anyone share some insights regarding this? would really appreciate your opinions guys...thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Ariozo:
2 totalt different phones, got both but 2 chose between that 2 is bad. As if you really are a Note person you should not have to chose. Note is one off my main device, great battery, big screen, spen and so on. Self I use it most for work things atm.

My nexus on the other hand is like my s3, smaller and fun phone. But nexus beat my s3 on all fronts exp. Camera and less storage.

But even with little worse Camera and less storage i love the feel and power off my nexus. :)

So if I really had to chose between them, if storage is not a problem, and you are not already a Note user and can't live without Note features ... I would go Nexus I think this days.

Skickat från min Nexus 4 via Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] FlatOutRU:
I have a desire atm (old one). I`m starting feeling about no upgrades,bad battery and it lags sometimes, etc. I think of getting at nexus 4 or sgs3, but its really hard to choise because i`m also using 32gb micro sd card on my desire and it`s filled half with music and other things. Nexus has better sexy design, updating quality, but s3 has micro sd card.Should i sacrifice micro sd card for all that? The pricing not matter because s3 and nexus 4 have the same price in my country.
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
Lol...You answered your own question... If your SD card is half filled with music and other things, why would you go with a device that does not have expandable memory?? Specially when there is no difference in price between both devices where you live.. It's to easy ..GS3 in this case. Cmon son
[Nexus 4 General] dr.devman:
Simply the best
[Nexus 4 General] FlatOutRU:
But all these pluses against sgs... sacrifice with sd card to
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
What are all these pluses you're referring to??? N4 has no removable battery, no SD card, only 16gb of storage.. How are these pluses over the the GS3????
[Nexus 4 General] FlatOutRU:
I more like not amoled display, much powerful core, 2gb of ram, better design, more things with anroid rom, i very like modding it to my own
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
Amoled display Is personal preference..2gb of ram?? You must have the i9300 model because my GS3 has 2gb of ram... Better design?? It's made of glass easy to break... Modding to your own?? The GS3 Dev community is heavy.. You can pretty much do whatever you want with it;););)
[Nexus 4 General] Frag1le:
Also the sgs3 has way better video codec support right out of the box, a better camera and a few other things. Just check the differences in the latest versus review on for example gsmarena.

Sure I'm a bit biased cause I own a sgs3 but still you have to make up your own mind.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
I happen to own the N4,GS3 and GN2 they are all good devices.. But if where I lived I could get the GS3 for the same price as the N4..GS3 hand down!!! For me the main reason (not the only) for getting the N4 was price/unlocked..
[Nexus 4 General] FlatOutRU:
Also seems that GN2 is laso awesome phone, i`d to know if it as good with music as gs3 as performance
[Nexus 4 General] molesarecoming:
heavy or not. they dont have android. their roms are made from samsung leftovers and pieces of trash. a good friend of mine, rom builder in the s3 forum, is telling me often how much their situation sucks because they cant get anything decent going without suppport from samsung, and samsung obviously doesnt want.

there is no clean aosp, they can base on cm or try to kang their build-trees, which are not stable because samsung blocks them. this is hard work. they're wasting months, time they could have spent on actual features. that's why you will never see a fresh/innovative rom from a legacy device, or very seldom. every rom here is making features, exploring the potential of JB. every rom there is trying to get 4.2 running. the day they have it running 100% stable we will be on KLP.

there's people out there that will swap a true android experience, a truly open plattform, an innovative rom scene, for an sd-slot. they wait half a year for things that should be immediate, they risk not getting the newest incarnations of android, even if it means that a three years old galaxy nexus (on KLP) will one day run faster than the s3 did ever. i think its pretty silly.
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
I agree.. but not everyone wants stock android.. Hence the 30 million plus (GS3)devices they have sold.. most people that get the GS3 obviously are not looking for the latest stock android.. At the end of the day it's all user preference...I happen to prefer the N4 myself but like the other devices too;);)
[Nexus 4 General] FlatOutRU:
I dont mind of what android looks, i used sense on my htc, but i started to use stock android because of its smooth and speed. The only thing s3,note2,n4 its actually the same pricing if i get it
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
He is absolutely right. i am an X owner of galaxy s3 and s2. i haven't had such an experience of using the real android smartphone through Samsung devices. of course i like them i did impressed(since i don't knew its the Samsung's software. i thought its straight from Google's . but its not. they adopted Google's code and modified from scratch(they ruined it indeed. but people attracting to bloody fu**ing software gimmicks...real smoothness and speed got spoiled). my friend has galaxy nexus. i just Lolld at him and bought an s3...f**k mannnn. his nexus is much faster than my s3. 4 years outdated dual core beats my quad core...!!!!! ..then i came to know only hardware doesn't matters. a powerful hardware always requires most powerful and stable software to run and to show its real potential. then i realized to sell this duplicate smartphones and to get original Google's device. bought nexus .currently it has some bugs. i'll admit it. but trust me in soon we'll have a real FLAWLESS device. by the custom roms we will get some more raw power. not at all biased. i am a X Samsung fanboy. just realized by fact. that. "nexus is always nexus....."
[Nexus 4 General] ksc6000:
My problem with the Nexus 4 is the battery life. That's why I'm considering the GS3. But I really don't want to use custom ROMs. I'll root it to be able to use TitaniumBackup and other apps, but I want to avoid the custom ROM department.

Can anyone tell me what kinda screen on time they get on 3G on the GS3 stock? That's my main concern. The Nexus 4 with less than 10% brightness on 3G will give me barely over 3 hours of screen time some days.
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
None buys the GS3/GN2 for pure stock android experience.. If they did, they're not that smart or just simply misinformed.. If they wanted that, they would get a nexus device.. so to argue that TW/Sense it's not like stock android, your starting the obvious... There's more people that prefer TW/Sense over stock.. Numbers don't lie;)
[Nexus 4 General] molesarecoming:
i think its more in the lines of they just dont know. who buys s3 for touchwizz, s3 users will tell you they run jellybean. in short, samsung disguises a not-at-all jellybean as jellybean, tells them chips and stats are important and lets the device deliberately rot after a couple months, then abandons it completely to increase sales. "we are sorry, but we found the s3 incapable of running key lime pie, but we would like to inform our customers that the s4 will soon run the latest version of android" will be the headline on their blog. or they stretch the updating process so long that it drives people out of their minds and they see themselves tempted to just get the new one.

usually people say "install a rom." its simply to vague. it would be an option if samsung would not block it, but since they do in their best interest, roms on legacy devices mean long waiting times or no updates at all, bad quality, terrible bugs, and few innovations cause time is spent on hacking. thats's the gaping downside to any legacy device. stats and chips have proven to be not as meaningful as they'd like people to believe. all thats really left is a sd-slot. and proprietary lte vs. hspa42+. i honestly dont believe people would fall for that would they not be dazzled so much by all the labcoat statsheet bullcrap.
[Nexus 4 General] calanizzle:
That's marketing
[Nexus 4 General] aznsmith:
Agreed! Since my car doesn't have bluetooth or USB port, I have to lay the phone in an unsecured way so I can play music/nav and charge at the same time. I would have been fine with just having both charging and 3.5mm jack located on either top or bottom quarter of the phone as opposed to opposite ends. Maybe LG have had an issue with interference from the charging port. I'm thinking about installing bluetooth in my car, so I don't have to mess with multiple cords anyways...I just have to figure out how to install a mic in my car's bluetooth mic housing that's conveniently located in the cabin lighting fixture far away from any simple wiring solution.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Well I also own a gs3 and will shortly be selling it. I love that phone to pieces and it was a difficult decision but the Nexus is noticeably smoother and also I like the look of the screen better.

I'll also get the next version of android six months before the sgs3 does, if it gets it.

Having said that, if I were a multimedia whore or needed the extra hour or two of battery I'd go the sgs3. I'm not, more of a gadget nerd and hacker, and the nexus is the best phone for that type of person. Sgs3 has good development but the aosp roms are always buggy and the Touchwiz roms are all much the same.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Yea, TW on the sg3 sucks with all those 21st century features that no other phone could hope to have :/
[Nexus 4 General] pnut22r:
The nexus 4 is GREAT!! I love it.

Having said that, i would also love to have the galaxy s3. Nexus devices are crazy good. But I've always like HTC and Samsung extras. Camera is very important to me, and for that reason alone, i would rather have the sgs3.

But my wife has had her nexus 4 for a few weeks now and she loves it. I opened my 16gb yesterday. It's smooth. But i still long for the sgs3. Wish i could have both. For all of the pros and cons you all are taking about.

If anyone wants to trade me my n4 for a tmobile sgs3 let new know. It would have to be mint, for mine was only opened yesterday.
[Nexus 4 General] shkamz:
Best smartphone.
[Nexus 4 General] bundi22:
I've had the Galaxy S1, now the Galaxy S2 which I believe was the best phone last year especially when running CyanogenMod, and still a very capable device however even though there is a Samsung Jelly Bean ROM it is not AOSP friendly. Alot of people I know have the S3 but after trying it out I think I will be buying the Nexus 4 since I am over Samsungs software, which was better than AOSP in the Gingerbread days, but since ICS and now JB AOSP ROMs are awesome and so Nexus 4 is the way to go if you love android. No point in me getting an S3 to put CM10 on it straight away which is not fully supported and no one knows about future updates and support from Samsung.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Ok so I have this "issue". My Galaxy S 3 was stolen about 2 months ago and wanted to replace it with Nexus 4 so I pre-ordered from the internet.

However I got from company a replacement phone Nokia N800 and just couldn't live with that so went and bought Galaxy Note 2 and somehow just completely forgot my Nexus 4 pre-order (too much beer maybe?)

Anyway I got yesterday email that my Nexus 4 has now been shipped to me and I will receive it probably tomorrow.

Now I have this big issue. I already have my Note 2 which I am very happy to have. Size is not an issue to me, it can fit in my pocket easily and I got used to use phones with 2 hands anyway.

Still I am very tempted to try also Nexus 4 but since there was just christmas and my gf loves all those expensive stuff I really couldn't afford to have 2 phones (and yes, the retail price here in Finland was something like 500€ which is more or less 650$. Expensive as hell)

I think I could sell my Note 2 for quite a good price since I have been using this flip cover since the first minute I got this and it is in a perfect condition. However it is always a bit of a hassle to go sell online.

Anyone else here tried both Note 2 and Nexus 4? Downsides? I think it is just impossible to beat Note 2 with battery life. And that I do love. Since buying Note 2 I have never had to worry about . Overall I am super satisfied with Note 2 but as a nerd which I am I really would love to try Nexus 4 too.

First world problem I know, but this is what keeps me awake now ;)
[Nexus 4 General] zubin111:
Been a Nexus loyalist since NS, Gnex and now N4, and actually the major gripe i had against Gnex was the camera, but surprise, although i never expected a lot from N4 but now i feel Gnex was better in this regard!! Anyways, build quality is good on the N4 but never had any confidence with LG devices, so gotta see if it holds as eventhough i know Gnex was plastic, but it could take some it and come out of it all...

Overall i feel Gnex and N4, as yet, have not presented me with a very significant improvement as a perfectly optimized Gnex would definately be as smooth as anything else. But yes how i wish it had the S3 camera.... Anyways i am more of a tinkering guy so its N4 for me as of now....
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
I am wondering why they always put sub-par cameras on Nexus devices. I think camera is these days on important factor of a mobile phone because it always goes with you so its important to have a decent camera then also.

And yes Note 2 has also excellent camera so I would be quite hesitant to change to worse.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaimesco12:
Keep the note. Anything that is better on the nexus 4, the note makes it up with spen, multiwindow and the amazing battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Total agreement. I think you'll find that the N4 looks tiny compared to the N2. With all of the features on the N2, I believe you'll be bored with the N4 pretty quick. You should be able to sell the N4 pretty easily and pay for a few months of your service.
[Nexus 4 General] Kick-Ass Joe:
Hi guys, what's the difference between the pro and non pro version of snapdragon? I would like to know how our processor compares to the new BlackBerry Aristo.

"The BlackBerry Aristo is powered by a Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core Krait processor running at 1.5GHz coupled with 2GB of RAM. The smartphone also impresses with a 4.65-inch OLED display of HD resolution. The screen is said to use OCTA Glass made by Samsung, which eliminates an additional touch screen layer and integrates the touch sensor directly onto the AMOLED panel instead.

As a result, the BlackBerry 10 Aristo will measure just 8.85mm thick. It's not the thinnest device out there, but it's certainly the slimmest in RIM's portfolio. Connectivity is reportedly going to be pretty solid as well with NFC, Bluetooth 4.0, microHDMI out, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA and microUSB.

Above the display stands a 2MP front-facing camera capable of shooting 720p video, while at the back the Aristo will make use of an 8MP snapper with auto focus and LED flash. Naturally, it will have no problems shooting 1080p at 30fps.

There's 16GB of internal storage, which is expandable thanks to the microSD card slot. The leaked slide also suggests a beefy (but non-removable) 2,800mAh battery.

If the slide hasn't been faked, we might be looking at a device well suited to start RIM's fightback."
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Pro is quad core...non pro is dual core.
[Nexus 4 General] pnut22r:
+1000 weird. I sold my gnex expecting the camera and data speeds to be better. Neither are that much better if at all. Love the n4, but loved the gnex too. Maybe should've kept the gnex. I love nexus devices, but with a kid I could use a great camera. Oh well
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
The Note 2 or S3 with burst mode is a great camera phone for kids...almost impossible NOT to get a good shot.
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
The N4 has a Sony Exmor R image sensor so I have no idea why pictures aren't better. Does it perform better with a third party camera app?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Is that a good sensor? If so, then it's due to crap drivers/sw optimisation. It is heavily post processed, and it rather chooses high iso. I'll dig for info on that sensor. Sony ones are normally pretty decent.
[Nexus 4 General] auroraprime:
Nexus 4 is a total steal, $300 for an unlocked phone? I wish I waited a little longer, because I bought an older phone a few months ago for $300, makes me jealous how you can get a phone for $300 that's better than my local 2 year contract phone.
[Nexus 4 General] FLeite:
If you had Galaxy S 3 and Nexus 4, at exactly the same price (16GB)...

Unlocked, new.

What would you go for?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
That would come down purely to your needs. Timely updates vs expandable storage and replaceable battery. Everything else is on par pretty much.