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[Nexus 4 General] :
Well the One doesn't look better than te N4 to me.

And the S4's display isn't that much better pixelwise, because it's PenTile.

Simple Math:

N4:

1280*768*3=2,949,120 Subpixel

S4:

1920*1080*2=4,147,200 Subpixel

And it's Amoled. If you like it, fine and if you don't you won't say it's better.

You are right in the CPU stuff, RAM etc., but personal liking is no fact ;)
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
As an owner of both phones I'm gonna have to go with the H1 on looks and screen.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
:cool:

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
:p
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Shoo, shoo, heretic.

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[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
Samsung phones are very durable, but it does matter how the phone lands. I had original Galaxy as well as Galaxy Nexus and those 2 phone survived ton of falls.....including 1 in the water.
[Nexus 4 General] nalitox:
Guys, your opinion plox. I have the Gnex and am using Miui. Should I get ne Nexus 4? I mean.. we all know that it is better in the detail - but most of all the software matters. I would flash Miui again. Will I see ANY difference?

I am not sure if I should get the Nexus 4 or the One.
[Nexus 4 General] jusada:
Comparing the n4, htc 1 and s4 is a little pointless. The n4 loses but not by a lot. And if your on a two year contract are you really going to notice in 2 years, probably not. The s6, HTC whatever and the n6 will be worlds apart from what we have now. Don't sweat in, the n4 is a great phone and like the GNex it will hold its own in a few years time. But when you upgrade you'll wonder how you managed. Its the nature of tech, the minute its out its outdated. You'd need a new phone monthly to stay current.
[Nexus 4 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members if the arguments continue and or useless type posting against each other do not stop....may lead to the closing of this Thread and offenders dealt with, I will ask you to stop this type of posting. Thread Cleaned & Thank You.
[Nexus 4 General] NowhereOutThere:
I just purchased an HTC One on Sunday, thinking it would be a much better phone than the Nexus 4. It is going back soon for a couple of reasons:

1. The camera. Not nearly as good as I had hoped for, but a bit better than the N4 camera (really, Google needs to step it up on quality camera components). It isn't a leap forward enough over the N4 camera, and the 4.2 camera software is kind of difficult to leave behind after getting used to it and how easy it is to change settings.

2. The software. Sense 5 is nice, but once you use something like PA for a while, everything else seems rather pedestrian. While it seems like Sense 5 is great for now, the thought of being on 4.1.2 instead of 4.3/5.0 is almost enough to not even consider another phone.

However, the hardware was beyond incredible. The HTC One really is, in my opinion, the best feeling phone on the market today. The N4 feels great in hand, but the One was something else. My unit did have a large gap at the top, which made pressing the power button an unpleasant experience (as I would always feel the rough edge of the plastic that didn't seal completely to the metal speaker). Something to watch out for if you plan on buying one, but it seems rather well documented over on the HTC One forum.
[Nexus 4 General] nigelw:
I'm waiting to see the new Sony Xperia SP. It's a midrange phone, but decent construction, 720p screen, good battery, dual core and SD slot. I think T-Mobile are doing it for £250 on PAYG.
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
You forget that Motorola start the buzz original with droid line if it wasnt for them we wouldnt have specs war. Droid 2 and droid x in usa and even europe sold well.

Motorola 2009 and 2010 dominate android their device. Htc took it from moto in 2011 with htc sensation original,sensation xl and mytouch 4g slide line. That got them the spotlight people started buying s2 at end of 2011 that when it got reckoning by buyers in Usa. And europe from the start of the summer of 2011.
[Nexus 4 General] scottx .:
Got a galaxy nexus from a guy. Gave him an old 8gb n7 for it.

I had one before I got my n4 and loved it. Now that I've had my 4 for a few months I really hate the amoled screen on the gnex. It's slow.. Screen ratio sucks. Never thought I'd hate a phone I once loved so much.

I put it on craigslist just to get rid of it.
[Nexus 4 General] PARADOX-SEV:
Had the H1 for a week now. Got me a new N4 today and the H1 is going back tomorrow. The display is gorgeous but I'm sticking with pure android.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
I guess that you are from USA? this assumption is based on that fact that Motorola never was a big hit in Europe and also HTC sensation was a disappointment here. HTC desire was the first Android phone in Europe which managed to stutter iphone sales and Sammy did take the second position with Galaxy 1. But I guess that Motorola being an American company they are doing better there.
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
Yeah I guess it american company that indian was manufacturing with chinise for device. Prior to google buying them. But even though it made money in Usa and South america. I know several hundred or thousand that like Motorola product and wish it was back in europe. I guess if most Europe country dont buy them then what use to sell them? Droid razr or razr for android xt 910 is one of products that people in europe like but doesnt want to spend money because of trend Samsung and Apple have made in this cell phone war game. Especially, how s3 was the same specs as atrix hd,droid razr hd with exception of 4.8 inches and on memory options is not much of different. Atrix hd have higher ppi at 326 same as iphone 5. But people rather get over hyped by Commercial i guess.

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Htc desire wasnt even better droid 2 that came with 8 gb internal storage. Im glad htc went with droid incredible on america it got the same treatment that motorola add on droid 2. With 8 gb of storage instead of 200+ mb internal desire had. Beside of 576 mb of ram it wasnt that great of phone. American dont buy phone without having good specs. We had good phone and Europe Finally had good internal storage phone with desire HD in 2010. But, Htc sucks back then with update and sucks now at it. Hell Motorola at least update their phone and dont forget customer like htc did with mytouch 4g slide never got 4.x os update from 2.3.4 os. Htc sensation got a buggy android 4.0 os, same can be said about htc rezound and amaze.

I like Motorola and sammy not really but Samsung care more then htc. HTC is cheap and like putting small battery on their phones,buggy sense ui. I rather have stock look phone and motoblur never bother me as much as other custom ui..

One thing I like about Europe android is that u can purchase phone like Acer liquid E,Galaxy s mini,razr I but never came in states. Same can be said about xperia line from Sony. Sony only release xperia ion in usa and other that didnt come that stood in Europe

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http://androinica.com/2010/03/motorola-droid-sells-an-estimated-1-05-million-units-in-74-days/
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
Thinking about jumping to GS4.... signal is horrible for me on N4 (even compared to GNex) and no Wifi calling now became an issue (never used wifi calling before). I tried voice over IP but that wasnt reliable for me.

Plus on top of this I like GS4, size, plastic, screen, features, camera, etc.....yes I prefer quality plastic to glass :) dont have to worry about breaking your phone.
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
If you want wifi calling download an app called talkatone. It does wifi calling real wifi calling,texting on wifi and picture message.

S4 isnt great it is but they will phone in summer with the same spec on different manufacture with better radio. Hold on till June or July those are the hot month for new device like Sony,Motorola, Htc,Acer and others.
[Nexus 4 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
So which is best between nexus 4 vs ___ (i really dont know) with same price or say extra $ 50-70 ??
[Nexus 4 General] junglebungle:
Just got my Nexus, moving along from the S3, and I a LOVE IT.
[Nexus 4 General] osmosizzz:
What makes you like it ?

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[Nexus 4 General] junglebungle:
The way it looks, feels, the screen, and pure android.
[Nexus 4 General] shingers5:
my 2 cents..............

i for one isnt that sold on the nexus 4 and google GED experience also. the nexus 4 is an LG period and for me that says it all. yes LG makes good looking phones but always with subpar versions of android. what i am trying to say is that i dont mind paying extra to have it built by samsung as with the name comes a certain amount of class attached. i still have my galaxy nexus and i love it still. as for google pure aosp rom i just think its time that whole experience got revamped and taken up a notch. also i am not happy with this fiasco about actually getting the device..............google in 2012 are you kidding me? 5-6 weeks for delivery????????? how can google allow the likes of o2 uk to sell for amost £100 more that google play store??????? feels like we are being forced to pay more for the device if we want it now. so for me the LG tag, the availability fiasco and the whole google android experience just sucks right now! have i ordered one -- hell yea and i am sure i will like it! some may not agree with me but its my take on the whole thing.............i have got a a galaxy note 2 which blows n4 away.............. had an s3 but dont like the 1gb ram on a supposedly premier device and it was seriously laggy at times. anyway keep the thread alive as its good to talk
[Nexus 4 General] junglebungle:
LG produce good products now imo, they and Samsung are both Korean company, I have personally never owned a Samsung TV, but I have owned LG TV's and they have been very good, I wouldn't say that the Nexus has a subpar version of android? is has the latest version?

Anyway I just got my Nexus 4 and I Love it, I am coming from the S3.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
I'm very surprised at so many people actually going from the S3 to the Nexus 4. I don't see too many reasons to do that, the S3 is a brilliant phone.
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
For me:

Better screen

No touch wiz

Fastest updates possible

No carrier affiliation at all

Oh, I personally like the design more too.
[Nexus 4 General] CreamyNougat:
Build quality per se isn't an issue. Fit and finish is.

To use yet another car analogy: the Hyundai Genesis coupe will outperform a Nissan Z. All things being equal, the Genesis will just outdrive the Z. Both cars will easily last past 100K miles.

But sit in one and then then the other and tell me which one aFEELS more premium, which one feels nicer put together.

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There's nothing else that compares at this price point - unless you're getting a used device or new old stock.

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The screen and overall design plus the software don't do it for me.
[Nexus 4 General] PretzelPants:
I came from a one s. Sold the one s on ebay for about 80 dollars less than the price of my 16gb nexus 4. Completely worth it in my opinion. Just the screen size alone makes everything worth it. The nexus 4 feels much more premium than the one s, but this isn't a deciding factor. Having pure android for the first time ever is really enjoyable. So much so I haven't installed any launcher, icons, or anything that might take away from it. The call quality on the nexus is much better than the one s, although I think the call quality on the one s is particularly bad. Coming from a Nokia N900, then the one s, I'll never go back to a small screen again. Hell, I'd like a bigger screen than the nexus 4 has, but as far as pocket size goes the nexus 4 is pretty much perfect. Battery life is much better on the one s. The camera on the one s is a bit better too in my opinion. But I have zero regrets switching to a nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
I have to completely disagree with you on that. Any trip long enough to bother pluging my phone into AUX for pandora/podkicker is long enough to justify plugging in power as well. So much so that I picked up some braided cable sleeving to marry the audio and USB cables together.

Going to be an interesting challenge to come up with as elegant a solution for the Nexus 4 when I retire me Nexus S this week.
[Nexus 4 General] mailistman:
anyone compared N4 to galaxy note II ?

i wish this N4 has as much battery capacity as note II..
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Plenty of YouTube videos comparing the two...however, comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges...they are two different phones. The N2 is a workhorse with tons of productivity options that the N4 will never have no matter what dev gets a hold of it. The N4 is great if you enjoy having the latest and greatest software updates from Google. The Note 2 can literally run with relatively heavy use for a couple days with out breathing hard, whereas the N4 is limited because of its battery. The two screen technologies have been beaten to death on here...there is no one that is better than the other...it's all personal preference (saturated vs natural colors). Camera and camera software are nicer on the N2...I don't see many debating that issue, although from what I've seen, the N4 is not bad...just not up to the latest out there. Screen size is an obvious difference...all about your hand size and preferences there. Processor...N2 is an older processor, but still an amazing performer (see below pic - aftermarket kernel, stock processing speeds). The N4 processor is newer and supposedly more efficient, however it appears as though there are software bugs with the newest Android kernel that are not letting the N4 take advantage of these efficiencies just yet. Speaker is louder and clearer on the N2 from everything I have seen...but that would make sense as there is more room behind this behemoth phone for the speaker etc. Build quality is a preference thing. Personally I like Samsung and their plastic, but not everyone does. From what I've seen, the N4 is a solid phone, but I seriously don't understand why Google decided to go the iPhone route and double their chances for glass breakage with the glass back...it just makes no sense to me. Storage is a clear advantage for the N2...replaceable battery is another clear advantage for the N2.

That's as much of a comparo as I can think offhand.
[Nexus 4 General] bjlefebvre:
Camera. I just sold my GNex and ordered N4 just for the camera. Don't forget how bad it was at low-light photos, now. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] starfarer:
In same minds. Looking local ad and used/hardly-used note 2 getting closer to N4 price. In fact, if someone offer GN2 for same price as N4, I'll not hesitate. If no shipping email by Mon night, I'm thinking of cancelling both orders.
[Nexus 4 General] justFaisal:
Plastic vs Glass? ..... i'd take the glass!
[Nexus 4 General] heifeif:
...with lot better int. speakers, better display-colors-sensitivity, call qual.,build qual(noise if you shake the N4?!),Lte, Sd-card and w. the Eb 40-mod almost 2 x longer battery life!;)

And YES. Compared the 2 phones over 3 hrs last week!

N4 screen looks ? yellow "ish" and not as bright....AND sens. is horrible compared the ahd!

Difference in int. speakers are Worlds!

Only the cam. was imho lot better on the n4...moto still builds crap-cams..

No lagging and same "smoothness" on both devices..
[Nexus 4 General] kirdroid:
I have a one x+ and have ordered the nexus 4. Only worry is the camera :(

I'm planning to sell the one x+ once I get the nexus and hopefully won't miss the camera. I have an iphone 5 as well so it will be my back up in case I need the camera but hopefully nexus 4 does a decent job.
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
Lmk how much you want for that x+ :)
[Nexus 4 General] TylerDurden1999:
I am on the verge of taking a phone.

Just cant decide between Nexus 4 and Note 2.I
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
Its not reliable. I need phone for work.
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
Have you tried checking to see if it is your carrier and not the phones? Carrier coverage is more important than phone radios.
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
X FON!!!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
How can you say poor signal is phone's fault lol
[Nexus 4 General] csdibiase@gmail.com:
All antenna are not created equal. I'd would argue that the N4 antenna isn't the best, and is more susceptible to attenuation building in the hand than most phones I've owned. Both my Nexus S and iPhone 4S seem(ed) to do better. That said the problem isn't so pronounced that it causes functional issues.
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
T-Mobile has poor coverage there. Open the door and you get a signal, close the door and no signal....so theoretically different phone can help.

All phones have different anttenas as said above.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Any1 use s4 yet? I wonder how it compares with nex4

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[Nexus 4 General] add119:
No it sammy fault and lg that trying to be sammy
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
I will most likely buy it on 8th in store. It comes out a whole $60 cheaper for me then paying on the net.

Edit: I don't know what the hell is going on, the service, the phone, or just a fact that I am constantly in area with ****ty service.....but lately I have noticed that every time I am inside a house I get 0 to maybe 1 bar. Its crazy, I did compare N4 to Gnex at one location and Gnex seemed to be better a bit.
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
I think i might sammy a chance if they secure that it android 5.0 os this year lol
[Nexus 4 General] abaaaabbbb63:
I had a hands on experience with the s4. Touchwiz really sucks, and lags here and there. There is lag on app launching and closing. Someone has to make an good aosp custom rom for that device. The stock rom is a mess.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
This suppose to be the Motorola X? It looks sick!
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
I thought i seen them pics somewhere claiming only to be a rumored AT&T exclusive Moto. I only really remember cause I thought at the time AT&T getting an exclusive on the Moto X or whatever...I dunno.
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
It's not as laggy as people make it out to be. It is not as fast as the N4 when you swipe between screens, and most people won't even be able to tell much of the difference. The gingerbread look does feel old and bulky with all of Samsung's stuff on it, but it is good for casual users. For higher end users, they get annoying and in the way. It is thinner than the N4, more slippery, and that giant screen can be annoying at times because it takes up so much of the device that you accidentally touch the screen when you hold it.
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
Touchwiz is the reason I want S4, its packed with ton of features.....just like CM, AOKP, and PA ROMs are. I really don't understand how extra settings and notification bar toggle be bad for ROM....maybe I am missing something here....

I read lag can be almost completely eliminated by switching animations off and using a different launcher. (I have the same done on N4 anyway)

PS. There is GS4 vs Nexus 4 comparison on YouTube
[Nexus 4 General] Alaris:
Unfortunately the price of having all those features is that you only have about 9 gb of space on the phone. I would much rather have on board space and add features I want with apps and mods.
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
If you need space you can always get additional 64GB sd-card which would bring your total storage close to 75GB
[Nexus 4 General] Danny.ns:
If I am correct (there is this huge possibility I am not), that space is limited to photos and pictures though. You will still "only" have 9GB for your apps/games (while you got 13gb on a 16gb n4 for example).
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
You are correct. Though you still have to store all your pictures and music in that 13g.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Sent from my microwave oven. Make: LG Model: N⁴
[Nexus 4 General] VOLTAGEROCK:
I just saw my friends s4 yesterday and it was cool to see the two apps on one screen and the eye view while reading documents. I was really impressed. I still have no problem with the Nexus at all. In fact, I love this phone with passion fruit guava.

Sent using Tap coupled with Talk on a device that will knock your socks off of my feet: Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Alaris:
Yeah there is no denying that it's a great phone. I personally went with the One just because I had an S3 and felt that the phone was just to similar.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Makes a lot of sense. I think many folks did the same as you. When you purchase a new phone you really want it to be different even if it is great with great features.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
The two apps on one screen, "multi window" , isn't new to the s4, nor is "smart stay". My GNote has them and I'll assume the s3 as well. That's why I went with the H1, the s4 doesn't really have anything new, other than the hand wave thing to scroll pages. Plus, I hardly ever use those features on my GNote, only time I do is to "show off" what the phone can do.
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
After some months of use now.. The Nexus 4 is the best handset I've ever owned.. Every handset I've owned always had a teething problem or two you had to dance around.

Samsung Moment - K-Mart radio that would randomly fail and require a reboot / Worst GPS ever

Samsung Epic 4G - Crap GPS / Physical Keyboard lag / Keyboard would rattle when opened

Nexus S - Not really built with the future in mind. This things performance was neutered the moment Google released ICS for it. It chugged along passable over time but it was painful to use by the end of its life. It was also very easy to get this thing uncomfortably hot in a lot of situations... Terrible passive cooling.

Nexus 4 I haven't had a "WTF" moment yet. It's just always there, ready to perform and do it with speed and stays nice and cool.. It's also future proofed out the butt.
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
So I played with a SGS4 today.

Wasn't that impressed, just so much unnecessary gimmick crap IMO.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I touched them all, played with them all. I wanted this phone early on when the rumors began last year though. So last week I pulled the trigger. With the new Tmo plans, the price of the N4, etc.... I got this phone. I'll keep it till probably this time next year when I switch to the Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Yup. I love features but the s4 is just ridiculous. It's kind of hideous as well. I can't quite place it, it just looks off somehow.

Sent from the playful Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
I like the form factor but as an improvement? Hardly.
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
I agree, N4 is the first phone that is almost trouble free for me.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
+10000 :D

I agree. This is one of the best smartphones i have ever owned. ParanoidAndroid has made it even better.