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[Nexus 4 General] uppon2:
A little bit of advice for Samsung users. I had the first released S1 running Éclair, The Froyo, then GB. Moved to S2 release day and used that up until a few weeks ago. I now just sold my SGS 3 (quad core) to potentially buy a Nexus 4. I found the SGS 3 too similar to the S1 and S2, not in performance, but just in a general sense and quite frankly it was boring even after flashing away.

I must admit I had a white model and I hated the colour, but the phone cost me $250 so I didn't care at the time. The screen is definitely higher quality and text can be zoomed in on and read beautifully at a brighter level than the previous models, the camera is also a great feature. I would get 48 hours of low.moderate use and about 24 hours for moderate/heavy use.

The square look of the S2 now looks really weird and unnatural to be honest. All in all the S3 is a great phone but it just seems to be missing something for me, I can't figure it out but it honestly feels boring to use. It feels exactly what one might expect, an updated version of the SGS 2 and that's as far as it goes.

I was going to get the Note 2. After using my friends for the weekend, it was slightly too hard for me to handle with the way I use my phone. So now, I am looking at either the N4 or waiting to see what is released in the next month or so. I would love a 5" display and want to try out a different brand. There are a lot of new phones coming but not sure of release dates yet! Can somebody please tell me if you can still order the N4 from America?
[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
With each passing day and no word from Google about nexus 4 availability, I'm becoming more and more interested in the Xperia Z. Or maybe I should wait for the mwc and decide later.............

.:totally confused:.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Are you serious? I'm talking about the screen quality not the screen size my friend.
[Nexus 4 General] tomciopaluch357:
I personally think N4 will be available

in early Feb in US , lest hope so .
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Um, you don't think screen size and choosing the wrong aspect ratio affects the viewing quality? Haha Those are probably just the two most important factors ever. For example, a 20 inch 1080p TV is sharp as a tack but it doesn't matter how bright and saturated it is when the width is the size of a 15 inch tv and the height the size of a 25 inch TV. It would be ugly as tack and any 40 inch 1080p TV would be a better screen. So yes, size and aspect ratio is more important to what makes a better screen than brightness and colour.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Good review there. I also have owned sgs3,n4 and note 2 and have to say that note 2 is the winner and nexus 4 takes the second place with quite a big margin, mostly because the battery life.

Still I am wondering about selling my note 2.reasons I can't reason.

Note 2 is like the perfect wife and nexus 4 that girl who screams trouble all over it but you just feel tempted to go for it.
[Nexus 4 General] imeem:
does any1 know how the N4 perform against the new HTC Butterfly? That phone's spec has I want everything (except it doesn't have removable battery).
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Nexus 4 destroys the North American version of the Butterfly.

http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/27/droid-dna-vs-nexus4

It isn't a hard fast rule, but generally, if both phones use the same SOC/GPU, the one that pushes less pixels and has the more common resolution will perform better. In this case it is the Nexus 4 even though it's resolution isn't exactly common, it is more common than 1080p although that looks to be changing fast.

I would go for the Xperia Z or the GS4 over any HTC phone if I were you. One, the Xperia Z looks fantastic and is more compact than the Droid DNA/Butterfly. Two, Sony seems to be learning from their mistakes but HTC never does. Three, Apple doesn't get any of your money if you go non HTC.

HTC sucks and should be boycotted by everyone.
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
Right now I'm on a note 2 however just purchased another nexus 4 (after selling my first n4 on swappa). I like the note 2, but IMHO there is no other phone that is like the nexus 4. I really think the deciding factor is if you want to be in the niche crowd that gets all the cool feats from Google when they drop. Updates as soon as they drop, second to none developers, and according to history only one nexus phone a year (which is one of the only things I can admire about the iPhone).
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Xperia z would still use s4 pro i would say optimus G2 which would have s4 prime with adreno 330 or galaxy s4 which would have A15 quad with a better GPU than Mali t 604 and adreno 320
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
The retina display is considered one of the best mobile displays to date. The iphone 5 has a high PPI and its super sharp. I prefer bigger displays and 16:9 aspect ratios, but you have to review what you have, in this case the iphone 5 and the screen is absolutely gorgeous :fact:
[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
Regarding battery life:

The One X was a real disapointment. And although the Nexus isn't massively better, its better enough to make a huge difference.

If i was out at night, I would find the One X would die late at night. The extra 10-20% the nexus has, (well with CM10 and Franco - haven't tried stock) is enough to last a full day / night on the booze.

And lets face it- at 1am when you are drunk is kinda of a key time to not have your phone go flat.

So while on paper its not a big difference, in practice the N4 is ticks all my boxes.

The One X + would be a good option, but we all want rock solid AOSP here don't we.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Yes, the tegra 3 one X battery sucks. But the One XL gives you excellent battery life. I don't get less than 4 hours on screen time, not using WiFi at all with 15 hours off charge and brightness adjusted depending of my environment. But yeah, the N4 has better battery life than the One x tegra 3.

Where the nexus 4 really is unbeatable at the moment (in my opinion) is overall performance/speed. Its just crazy fast, you cannot slow it down( the S4 pro is amazing) and its running stock so no UI overlay to slow it down.
[Nexus 4 General] imeem:
y u hate HTC so much? also, in other reviews the DNA beats the N4 in antutu and Quadrant constantly, but nice video nevertheless.
[Nexus 4 General] wirelesswing:
Anybody disappointed by the Xperia Z 1080p... TFT Display? I thought Sony would use IPS panel (or SLCD2 like HTC) for such a high quality display. But when I saw Xperia Z hands-on videos... the viewing angle is not good at all... especially when they put the S3 / iPhone / HTC beside it.
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Am I the only one that thinks the nexus 4 screen sucks I hate LCD. IPhone 4 and up kills this, amoled any day.

I have 4 nexus 4's and I have to adjust the colors and I still don't love it. For the price yeah its OK but nothing I would brag about.
[Nexus 4 General] jark99:
The screens used on the iPhone are similar to the nexus 4s. You do know LG, I believe if I'm correct, is the manufacturer of the iPhone LCD right?

Sent from Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Amfire of Light:
Coming from a HTC Wildfire, I would say I'm blown away with the Nexus 4:p But I would like to say that I'm still using my Htc wildfire on cyanogenmod without a SIM and it comes upto a week with one full charge. True story.
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
You have 4 nexus 4s? Haha why? Is it your fault no one can buy them?:p

Trade one for an iPhone 4s 32 GB? :p

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[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
I see you do not understand what I just said. Here is a real fact for you.

Let's say you had to put a 40 inch TV in your living room and you were going to choose the BEST screen. Would you choose a screen shaped like this with a retarded looking and ugly aspect ratio like this?

http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=iphon...w=181&start=0&ndsp=61&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:82

Or would you choose a normal screen with the correct aspect ratio for it's shape and dimensions like this?

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...vzUP34OOzriQKAyIGYCg&ved=0CE0Q9QEwBQ&dur=1974

Sorry, but it doesn't matter how nice the colour is or how high the resolution the screen is, you are not going to watch the Super Bowl on the former screen and the latter screen is the best screen by default. The iphone 5 screen actually looks even more disgusting than that iphone 5 window display screen. Fact.

Check this out.

http://mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/iphone5-27.jpg

That is hilarious! WTF is that on the iphone 5 there? Wide widescreen mode? Widescreen mode is already wide enough with huge black borders on the top and bottom, just imagine how ugly a wide screen movie would look on that iphone 5 display. haha
[Nexus 4 General] MeMoM&aVirusTI:
As soon as I got the notification that Nexus 4 was on sale & I saw the price & the specs ..unlocked ....it was a no-brainer really :confused:

This device is cool ....NFC is so cool ....I bought my first coffee today ..or was so cool ...everyone in line behind me were so freakun confused it was awesome !!! :p

never expected them to sell out so fast ....but maybe LG was already caught up manufacturing Optimus G & they were only able to produce so many units.... or playing safe ...until they get the quarterly sales for the GS3 & Note 2

But 9mm thickness & 139 gr ...I am asking why ...Samsung has proven that you can get really thin & light with the GS2 & GS3 ....why are they going backwards ...

I dont really get Samsung's model now ...ok "really thin is good" they are going to incorporate YOUM & how much are these devices "possibly GS4" going to be ..1000 $ ..no contract ....nice round number why not ! :silly:

But yeah the Nexus 4 is sweet ...:p
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Yeah, sense is coded to get high scores on benchmarks. Although it is not hard to do the math. Both the Nexus 4 and Droid DNA have the Qualcomm S4 pro, both have 2gb of ram etc so it is a no brainer that the Nexus 4 would perform better considering it pushes less pixels and runs a lighter version of Android. There is just not scientific way for the Droid DNA to perform better than the Nexus 4 unless the Droid DNA uses faster memory. I am guessing the ram and i/o memory both come from Samsung so I doubt the Droid DNA uses faster memory.

Why do I hate HTC so much? Probably because they seem to be getting away with making garbage devices, someone has to call them out. When everyone says that they make great hardware, I feel it is my job to warn people that might believe the hype and buy an HTC device. They have given me nothing but headaches.

Both of my HTC One X devices were riddled with problems, my first HTC 8x had dust under the screen and my second one has a loose volume rocker and yellow screen tint. I am sure the Droid DNA and M7 will suck somehow too so I need to warn people. Oh and selling out to Apple makes it hard to respect them too.

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I am disappointed because I would probably buy it over the Nexus 4 if the viewing angles were better. And I would have bought it over the GS4 if it had the S4 prime or the Qualcomm 600 or the Tegra 4 because I love the design.

Now I just have to wait until the Nexus 4 comes back in stock in Canada, which is starting to look like by the time the GS4 comes out. Sigh.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
This is actually the massive problem with Nexus 4. Just last week went to a hockey game with friends and afterwards to a bar have some beer. Had to go home because battery died only after being out for about 9 hours and screen on time 1 hour. I guess the reception in the hockey game wasnt so good + took some photos and those just destroyed the battery. I hate it when have to be thinking if I am without phone soon.

SGS2 and SGS3 had similar problems but then could always keep extra battery in the pocket. Note 2 just wont die, that bad ass just goes on and on. I don't know what Samsung did there but you can watch movies and play games and it just won't die.

I hope Google will drop some update soon and make some fixes. Especially this RILJ bug is interesting since I haven't seen it since summer of 2011 until now with my Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I hate HTC because I've owned three of their ****ty phones. Sense is nice but the hardware is **** and battery life always sucks. Also their phones have locked bootloaders.

Root, install Faux or Franco kernel, buy an external battery pack of the type iPhone users have been using for years. Yeah I would prefer better battery life or a removable battery but the problem is not insurmountable.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
I wait and hope that in the next update something magical will happen :good:
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I don't think I can explain to you more than I already did, once again I'm not talking about aspect ratios but screen quality. You're talking about tvs and I'm talking about smartphones, its 2 different things. When you look at the retina display on the iPhone 5, its very sharp, very good colors and its vibrant. The fact that its a 4 inch display isn't the point nor is the aspect ratio. The HTC sensation has a 16:9 aspect ratio I believe, but the screen on the iPhone 5 is better because of the high ppi and the better saturated colors. I don't know how else to explain it to you its pretty simple.
[Nexus 4 General] tefaa89:
I wasn't sure if I should get GS3 or Nexus 4 but it looks like i will go for the Nexus 4, hope it will be the right choice :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
It is.
[Nexus 4 General] rican408:
So my thread got closed.

I set up my lady's new gs3. It was a pain. The ui is ugly. Pop ups constantly asking "do you want this feature?" I also messed around with it for a little while and I am accustomed to touch wiz but I was just reminded how user unfriendly it is compared to the nexus line. The hardware is nice tho....
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Yeah to me the Sgs3 interface always felt incoherent, almost as if features were just randomly pinned to the framework without any overriding design principles to keep the whole thing feeling like it is supposed to be a cohesive whole. If I had to search for a metaphor I would say is like a house with different carpet in every room. It could be the most functional house on the planet but the carpet would just seem off.
[Nexus 4 General] rican408:
I'm not good at explaining my thoughts, you nailed it.
[Nexus 4 General] ksc6000:
I love everything about this phone, except the stupidly bad mobile data battery life. On WiFi it's great. So I'm going to try a note 2 (even though it's so ridiculously huge).
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
I understand exactly what you are saying but you do not seem to understand what I am saying.

I said that I have no idea how you can prefer the iphone 5 screen over the Nexus screen when the iphone 5 screen is so tall, skinny, and ugly with the wrong aspect ratio. The 3:2 aspect ratio is the correct one for IOS and small screen sizes. Normally 4 inches is enough for a 16:9 aspect ratio but the iphone 5 screen is effectively 3.5 inches wide so the 16:9 aspect ratio combined with the really ugly looking shape makes it look really wide and short in landscape mode and really tall and skinny in portrait mode. I pointed out with two great examples with links about how shape and aspect ratios can destroy any benefits that a screen might have regardless of how sharp and vibrant it is. Viewing quality thus screen quality is affected by shape whether you like it or not. TV or phone, I believe that the shape and aspect ratio matters. In fact, the wrong aspect ratio is what prevented the Optimus Vu from being a good phone so it could easily prevent the iphone 5 screen from being a great screen.

The fact is, aspect ratio and dimensions are important factors in screen quality. It is ridiculous to assume that those things do not play a factor.

If a screen looked like this ----------------------- in landscape mode, you wouldn't even be able to make out of the sharpness and colour. However if a screen looked like this

--------------------------- Then the sharpness and colour is noticeble and makes viewing tasks on your phone a joy.

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This isn't an argument, this is a comment so you do not have to explain yourself. I just have no idea how you can ignore screen size, shape, and aspect ratio when choosing which screen is superior. I understand that you value sharpness, outside visibility, and vibrancy more. I just cant see why and how you can like the ------------------------ shaped iphone 5 screen better than the much more viewer friendly and almost as sharp/vibrant Nexus 4 screen that actually looks like a smart phone screen and not a straight line. lol

Again, I don't expect a reply, your stance is clear. I am just giving my opinion on the iphone 5 screen which I think is the ugliest thing ever based on the shape and aspect ratio. It is you that do not understand my stance and keep on saying shape and aspect ratio does not effect screen quality when they are in reality two of the most important factors in determining what makes a screen great.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Actually you do not understand what I mean, but I can't explain it any more clearer than I did in my previous comment.

Scratch that, actually ill give it another shot. Instead of saying screen ill say display,that may be the reason why we don't understand each other. Good thing you talked about the optimus Vu cause ill take it as an example. I believe everybody agrees that it has a weird shape ( its almost a squared phone) so it has an eff'up aspect ratio, I think you and I both agree on that. But if we were to take the display quality itself, put aside the aspect ratio and shape for one second and bare with me, if the display of the optimus V was 1080 p, super Amoled HD I would have called it a great screen because of the technology behind it, despite the fact that I think the shape and aspect ratio is weird, the display itself would be impressive, super sharp with the best colors ( Amoled). Now I would not purchase it because I wouldn't like the squared shape of it. I guess your definition of screen is aspect ratio plus the screen technology itself, I'm trying to judge the screen ( ill say DISPLAY to avoid the confusion) itself and not the aspect ratio. I pray you understand this cause I REALLY dumbed it down as much as I could.

Here's a comparison of both the N4 and the iPhone 5 displays.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-4-vs-Apple-iPhone-5_id3199
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
I said I understand you perfectly clear. It is you that is still failing to understand. Screen or display quality takes into account EVERYTHING, there is no way around that. That includes shape, size, measurements, reflections, viewing angles , saturation, brightness, sharpness, display tech, aspect ratio, how many million colours, RGB sub pixel placement, EVERYTHING.

I already said, if you choose to cherry pick the iphone 5 display advantages like color, brightness. and sharpness to give it a win that is fine. You don't have to say anything further. I am just saying that I do not agree with it because I think the iphone 5 gets owned in a lot of the other areas that make a great display or screen such as aspect ratio and shape.

We don't have to agree with each other on definitions but I already said, I understand. It is you that is failing to understand and insist that other aspects of a screen does not count towards display quality. I hope I made it simple enough for you to understand. jeez.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Sure... We definitely disagree.
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
So.....

Anyone migrate from a note 2?
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Trying to. But its so hard :P

Just when I was ready to sell my Note I decided to try it one more day and I am still on the Note and Nexus got left at home.

Now I am thinking about selling my Nexus. If you got used to the screen on Note 2 it is very difficult to go back to smaller. Everything from typing to internet browsing is just so much easier with bigger screen.'

Also the difference between battery life is a bit too huge. With Nexus I had to charge the phone basically always when possible, otherwise would maybe end up with a dead battery.

With Note right now I am at work and charger is there next to it but didnt bother plugging it in. Even if I am streaming music all the time it won't die until tomorrow morning.

Why I was then selling Note first..well..Nexus just is so damn sexy. While the Android versions currently don't have major differences and I actually think that 4.2 is a slight step backwards from 4.1 (mostly because it seems to have effected battery life) I still think that 5.0 would be awesome and those couple of months waiting with Note 2 to get it will be long months.

But now also these rumors about Nexus 5 are making me to think. If they really would make a Nexus device with bigger screen and hopefully bigger battery..that would be a dream come true.
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
That nexus 5 rumor was squashed yesterday I believe. Batterer life is kind of eh with the note for me. 2.5 hours scream time, 45 min out Bluetooth Pandora, and a 40 minute phone call left me with 43% left. I don't sew how people are getting 7ish hours with this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] CandyAndy:
Interesting. For me Note 2 is straight from box something like 6-8 hours of screen on time. No matter if on wifi or 3g.

Nexus battery is behaving quite strangely. First 100-80% it will drop no matter what. After this the standby gets actually quite good and there is almost no consumption if not touching the phone. BUT if you start watching youtube, browsing web, playing..its just 1-2 hours and you are done.
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
Battery is good on my note from 90-75. Then it starts dropping. Had to turn Google now off because of the draining it was doing.
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Now on cm10.1 s3 runs as smooth as nexus4 only that battery is like that too

:p
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
I call bull**** that completely stock on screen time.
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
Note 2 gives me 8 to10 hrs on screen time. ..with my regular use. .. .no doubts on that. .

scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] KaranKapoor:
8-10 hours seems like impossible. Could you post a screenshot of your screen-on time?
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
I want to see proof.
[Nexus 4 General] mrx_rf:
I'm considering 4 N4 before. Wait for a very long time but google/LG disappointing me. Here it price at $598 for 16Gb (RM 1799), make me cursing all day. Make me hate to even see N4 advertisement.

I buy Padfone 2 instead (not with tablet). Got a very good offer on it. Seller got his Padfone station broken so he buy new set and sell phone to me (he take PF2 station. And it cannot buy separately).

Actually PF2 surprise me. The build quality is VERY good, the design is nice. Use near stock android. Screen is responsive, sharp and nice. Support LTE (even tho my telco don't have it yet). Update is good (already jelly bean 4.1, ICS out of box)

Disadvantage

-no custom rom support yet.
[Nexus 4 General] MeMoM&aVirusTI:
Just installed Ubuntu ..it runs pretty awesome :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] razball:
How
[Nexus 4 General] ketonkss4:
How much does the padfone 2 cost in your country?
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
I'm happy with my s3 but jm just interested...

Droid DNA vs nexis 4? No brand bias please

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[Nexus 4 General] hoose23:
So today I had the chance to either buy the gs3 or nexus 4 both for the same price. And I went with my gut feeling and bought the nexus. For one I've had a gs2 before and enjoyed it. Touchwiz isn't as bad as people say it is, I enjoyed but I wanted to experience the pure google experience for the first time. And I mean a quad core and 2gb of ram with updates. How can I not pick the nexus? And reason I'm posting is, would any one have gone the other way?