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[Nexus 4 General] al_madd:
Just ordered N4..hopefully can use it sooner..

My question is..

1.Iphone 5 CPU is duo core N4 quad core..but I read some review that Iphone5 smoother than N4

2. Battery for Iphone 5 only 1440mah..same with my old nexus s..N4 battery have larger capacity..but why N4 lost to Iphone 5 in term of battery durabilty?

Never have a iphone before..anyone can help with this?

Thanks..
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Iphone 5 is a hair smoother than the nexus 4 yes, but its due to a lot of factors. Nevertheless the nexus 4 is mighty fast and very smooth. And yes the iphone 5 does have better battery life than the nexus 4 but i think that itll be fixed with possibly android 4.2.2 or 5.0. At the end of the day the nexus is better because of the user experience. (didnt wanna go in details, im writing this post on my ps3 which is so painful:p )
[Nexus 4 General] _DavidWebb:
This was just the review I was looking for to push me into buying this phone! Thanks!!
[Nexus 4 General] coolqf:
The smoothness is mostly because of the OS specifically designed for the CPU.

I had an iPhone 5 for about a week and the battery felt the same as my nexus 4.....
[Nexus 4 General] TooCrzy:
I have an iPhone 5, and bought a Nexus 4 about a week ago. Sold the Nexus 4 on ebay 2 days ago. Just ordered another Nexus 4 today. I actually miss the sexy Nexus 4!!! My iPhone 5 will be sold... :D
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
If The iphone have a 5 inch screen kill the Nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
If it had is irrelevant. It doesnt have a 5 inch screen.
[Nexus 4 General] D4rk50ul:
You guys realize the iPhone is fast because it runs an extremely basic OS right? Hell even increasing screen size would slow it down I bet. Put android 4.2.1 on an iPhone 5 and let me know how fast it is.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Thats not the point, every phone is fast for a reason or slow for another reason.
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
the iphone will run smooth with dual core..hell why, wp 7.8 runs smooth on single core, wp8 runs smooth on dual core............even if you have octa core, android will run like how it is now on dual core or quadcore........it is simply because of the different OSes and their ability to run on particular hardware and how it is tweaked . some people blame the dalvik virtual machine of android for this issue (because you have to open each app in a VM)...and true multitasking capabilities.

dont compare them for smoothness....its all about functionality and customizabilty...:angel:

by the way,..............just got a call from home...my second nexus 4 has arrived.here in india...:victory:
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
Lol
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
That's totally false. The iPhone 5 runs iOS, which is based on OS 10's Berkeley Mach kernel unix. It only takes one google search to find out facts, calling iOS basic is just ignorant. That same google search will tell you that the iPhone iOS and custom made chipset is heavily optimized for gpu operations. Another reason is that Apple took four years to hand-draw the entire wafer. Four years of painstaking manual engineering. The iPhone is fast for a reason.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
Nevermind the fact that the iPhone 5's GPU is more robust than the GPU inside any Android smartphone to-date. The iPhone 4S's GPU was also more powerful than that inside any Android smartphone at the time, and I believe this contemporaneous graphical superiority extends back to the iPhone 4 as well.

In fact I believe the iPhone 4S's GPU is still more powerful than what's inside the best Android handsets today..
[Nexus 4 General] Alaris:
Ugh I have a note 2 which I love but lately have had the itch to get a nexus 4. I feel like owning two phones would be kind of siy though lol.
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
That's why I got two nexus 4... gifted one to brother and another to wife. ..I keep tinkering with them at weekends. ... but can't let go of my note 2:p:D

scribbled from "the phab" (the note 2 -N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] davidstech11:
The iPhone 5 GPU is not all that much better than the Adreno 320. And it should be able to push a few more fps especially since it can't and does not put out HD content. It has to be down scaled when playing on the iPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
What other people kuje shoukdbt positively or negatively affect what you like. You can't eat cake because everyone loves it, stick to sour kraut or sprouts lol - s3 is a brilliant phone, as is the nexus. The iphone also is but i feel very patronised by it.

Ios may have a complex kernel but it is basic in function (slide icons left to right, pop up a notification, open the app) and the only thing slowing it down is the animations that aren't necessary now that hardware is more than the power of a Casio watch (ie the first 2 gen I phones)

4s + are built to be powerhouses

The 4 uses the same GPU as 3gs but 4x as many pixels so its arguably worse in that department, though it had a significant boost in processor (not number wise but in archrtecture).

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[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
There's like one offscreen Egypt HD test where I think the Adreno 320 beat the iPhone 5 by a slim margin -- in the majority of tests it seems the GPU in the 5 beats the Adreno 320 by over 27%, often well over 50% and sometimes close to 100%.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I'm sorry but I don't speak Swedish. If you are saying cake is better than sprouts, I'd beg to differ. You will soon be very fat if you try to live off cake, but sprouts are nutritious.
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
I'm with this guy. Luckily cm10.1 is getting better for the note.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
I see now that you clearly don't really understand how all these devices work.
[Nexus 4 General] D4rk50ul:
The actual user interface of apple is about equivalent to an android app drawer. Hell multitasking was a huge upgrade apple viewed as revolutionary. The device works well because its OS doesn't do anything that requires much resources.

I refuse to argue with apple fanboys they would rather die than admit their beloved devices are anything less than perfect.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
Lol nice troll.
[Nexus 4 General] nohcho:
Until you pointed out, i didnt realize that its the screen size that matters as opposed to the resolution of the screen. Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Hmm.. Yes it was revolutionary but that was 5years ago ,they haven't made much changes in thier os

,and even small updates appear big for some ios users .

ios has become "stale" for me

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[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Iphone5 kills n4 in IPS screen colors, sexy sleek design shape its quick to open up certain settings ie. SBS settings Cydia app, jailbroken
[Nexus 4 General] :
Nexus 4 wins hands down

Nexus 4 is by far my fave! iOS bores me and iclones might have OK hardware but, its still limited for what I want from a device.

It also beats my HOS I've just binned and my mrs HOX. I don't miss sense one bit. The pros well outweigh the cons for me:)

Funny how peeps get so serious in forums (of all kinds), each to their own regardless of fact:)
[Nexus 4 General] RayLancer:
How's the touchscreen responsiveness? I see a lot of people complain about it. My GSII has a PRS of under 0.10 and my Nexus 7 has it about 0.20-0.30. I saw some youtube videos of people getting like 0.40 or higher and light presses not registering.
[Nexus 4 General] fairlight2x:
I have an iPad 3, iOS sucks. You can't even share music, videos or documents between apps! What kind of retard thought that was a good idea? I only got it for the music apps which you can't get on Android, otherwise I wouldn't have touched an iDevice! iOS is antiquated and stagnant, while Android keeps getting better with each revision.
[Nexus 4 General] ghettopops:
I just picked up the GN2 on Tuesday and wow....I loved my N4 a lot but the GN2 has not left my hand. The battery life is stellar 1 day 10 hrs with almost 4 hrs surfing and 2.5 hrs gps tracking and music streaming and just dipped to 29%.. I have not rooted the GN2 so it's all stock. I have a GN1 that I used to love, poor guy, but it was crashing too frequently on Liquid. My N4 has never crashed and I love it but my headphone jack is screwed up and I need to send it in. This GN2 is beautiful and may become my DD.
[Nexus 4 General] Alaris:
Yeah I have a GN2 and love it but I keep finding my self looking at the Nexus 4. But even though I can afford it just can't justify two phones.
[Nexus 4 General] Malevolence:
I caved and ordered a Nexus 4 with a really hard to pass up discount from T-Mobile even though I already have a phone. Maybe it'll win me over, who knows...
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
I gave in again, and purchased a nexus 4 16gb off craigslist for $300 :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] gunnyman:
Ordered my Nexus 4 today and I will be selling my Galaxy S 3 to pay for it.

:)
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Excellent choice. Never looked back from that upgrade myself.
[Nexus 4 General] rufaz:
still confused between this and the Z.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Feels great and fast, just need to get a Sim card tomorrow, selling the iPhone 5
[Nexus 4 General] gunnyman:
The fact that my sgs3 is now 2 software relwases behind pushed me over the edge.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
So did I! Although u had a better deal. I bought a brand new 8 gig for 340$ on craigslist. This is my 3rd nexus 4!!
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
Don't just write this off because it's Microsoft but Microsoft is only about a month or two from having the Xbox music service running and available on android and Mac os. I've been Zune subscriber for years and it's going to be great for android to have a downloadable subscription service like windows phone and PC users have had access to for years. no other service compares IMHO. Huge library (same as iTunes, larger than spotify or any other), DOWNLOADABLE music, and cheap at 9.99/mo. My girlfriend has an iPad 3 and just got an iPhone to replace her dying windows phone and she misses her Xbox Music pass (used to be called the Zune pass) so much she still uses her SIM-less windows phone as a music player because its so handy.

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Tell me why not the HOX? My readings tell me that's a great phone but I have never held one myself.

From the impressions I read here on XDA, the Galaxy Note

is so similar to the N4 it seems like its just a question of whether you want the larger screen or the smaller one. They're about even performance wise, with slightly better battery going to the GN2, yes?

Sent from my Paranoid Android Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] shahkam:
Only things that keeps me off from it is no sdcard and camera isn't fantastic and i take alot of pics always !
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
I was one of those guys till a few days back who didn't believe the Nexus 4 was any more fragile than any other handset in the Market. Even after I broke it's back after a bad fall, I said that it's not the phone's fragility, it's my bad handling. But yesterday, my back broken Nexus 4 fell 1.5 feet (from a low chair) face down, and it's screen broke. It was inside a Rearth ringke case btw, not that it affected the fall too much since it has little/no lip at the front.

I know it's still partly my carelessness but I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect it to survive falling 18 bloody inches.

Now I'm selling it for parts for $180 since LG doesn't repair the N4 in my country. I don't know what to go for now. I was incredibly impressed with the N4, every single thing about it, and I thoroughly hate the S3.

I feel like buying the N4 again but I do think it's too fragile now, really. Will go for the S3 now I guess. Will hate myself for doing it though.

My suggestion to other wanting to buy the Nexus: It's the best phone you'd have ever used, yes, ahead of the Note 2 even. The mere feel of it. But accidents happen, and the Nexus doesn't like it at all.
[Nexus 4 General] xerox89:
The phone is great .

Meet most of my expectation except the camera and the build .

The phone feel abit more fragile and lighter than my expectation .

After applied back screen protector and tpu case it feel perfect now .
[Nexus 4 General] FRLinux:
Mine fell for the first time yesterday from a meter. It has a silicone case which definitely saved its skin.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
How so?

I've read of many people going from the Nexus 4 to the Note 2 but nothing of people going from the Note 2 to the Nexus 4 as their one-and-only.

Honestly I thought I'd end up with the Nexus 4 myself. Then I started watching media on the screen, and my Note 2 with a 32GB microSD only has 4GB free space left. I routinely burn through 5GB each month just from YouTube and apps, let alone having to throw Google Play Music and some personal-content-streaming in there. Maybe if you live a lifestyle where you always have WiFi..
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Mainly because the pure andriod, instant updates, cutting edge software experience is worth it. And the Nexus 4 feels much much muuuuch better and more premium than any of the Galaxy phones.

And yeah, space wasn't a worry for me neither was lack of LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
Subjective I guess. I came from the Galaxy Nexus and used both the Nexus 4 and Note 2 and walked away with the Note 2. Updates have been underwhelming since Jelly Bean so hopefully KLP changes the game.
[Nexus 4 General] Sebring5:
I have both Note II and Nexus 4 with ATT. Neither have LTE and that is immaterial. HSPA+ speeds are fine. I currently use CyanonMod nightlies on Note II and Code FireX 4.2.2 nightlies on the Nexus 4. When I bought the Nexus 4 my intention was to leave the Note II in the drawer but such has not been the case. I swapped sim cards and went back to the Note II last week. I will probably do that again shortly. Differences between the two are size and screen color saturation. Battery on Note II is lasts far longer. The Nexus 4 gets software updates first which is why I have it. Can't say I prefer one to the other. Would like a larger screen on the Nexus 4 but not as large as the Note II. Both are excellent phones. Considering the Motorola X for my next phone. Definitely not interested in the Galaxy S IV or HTC One. All I can say is you can't go wrong whichever you choose.
[Nexus 4 General] jtc276:
4.2 doesn't even matter to non-Nexus devices. All of the features it implements are almost all already in manufacturer skins. I put a Galaxy S3 ROM on my Galaxy S2 and was surprised to see how streamlined and intuitive it was compared to regular Android. And it's only on 4.1. Also, there is room for more customization and everything just looks nicer.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
Yes.

The Galaxy Nexus release was stunning from a software perspective (ICS) and underwhelming from a hardware perspective.

The Nexus 4 release was stunning from a hardware perspective (S4 Pro for $299) and underwhelming from a software perspective.
[Nexus 4 General] jtc276:
Exactly. Let's be honest. This phone could still run 4.1 and it really wouldn't be that big of a deal. Honestly, the last huge update was ICS over a year ago. Jelly Bean was much needed, but definitely easy to live without for a few months until your manufacturer merged it with their own skin.

I'm just sick of reading these threads and seeing people spout off the Nexus 4 as the Holy Grail of Android phones when it really isn't. Yes, the Nexus 4 is cheap, gets quick updates, and has pretty decent hardware. But we also need to realize that we're guinea pigs. Google uses us to try out their new software, find the bugs in it, and then ask for it to be repaired. Technically all three Nexus devices haven't been completely stable with little to no bugs until 4.2.2 and even that's subjective. But when an update for the Galaxy S or HTC devices release, it will release with the last version of the newest update (such as 4.2.2) and it won't have a massive amount of bugs. So, sure. We get a "pure Android" experience (something I'm getting a little bored of at this point) and fast updates, but we're still guinea pigs and Google uses us to make sure that other manufacturers are satisfied with the way that Android is going.

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Oh, and by the way, I have a Nexus 4 which I like and will keep to see the newest updates, but my next phone will be a Galaxy S4 and I'll be sticking with the Galaxy line from now on.
[Nexus 4 General] FRLinux:
I am sorry but you are twisting this a bit. I went from the S3 to the Nexus because I am fed up of how slow Samsung handles updates and how bloated their rom are.

Sure the Nexus 4 is not as good hardware wise but it comes at a nice price tag.

I think Google is trying to deliver a good experience without manufacturers ugliness. Saying that we are guinea pigs really does not make sense.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Dude, i had ALL the Samsung Galaxy devices and they weren`t perfect either i can tell you. They are packed with bloatware and the time will come (not so far away anymore) that rooting a Samsung will become quite a undertaking and resetting the binary flash counter will no longer be possible anymore. I love the Nexus devices for its pure and light OS without the bulk. If you cannot aprreciate that you shouldn`t have bought a Nexus device to start with.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
I have no idea what annoying bugs you're talking about that could make you forget that the N4's hardware beats the pee pants out of the S3. All the note really offers is useless split screen and bloatware.

Sent from my Paranoid Android Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] jtc276:
I had a Galaxy S II and it was by far the best Android device I've ever owned. Sure, there's bloat, but everything was optimized perfectly and ridiculously smooth. Of course, so is the Nexus 4, but I feel as if Samsung adds some great features that aren't available in stock Android. And the greatest thing about Galaxy devices is that they're ridiculously popular so development for them is fantastic. The binary flash thing that you mentioned is a bummer, but I have high hopes that devs will figure that out when the time comes.

Also, I just want to clarify that I don't dislike my Nexus 4. I'm just not particularly impressed with it and I feel as if the bashing of other manufacturers' phones is not justified as they have many features that a Nexus devices do not have implemented. I'll definitely be keeping my Nexus 4 because I am interested in new updates.

Oh, and we totally are guinea pigs. If Nexus devices didn't exist and 4.2 went straight to every manufacturer device, there would be chaos in the Android ecosystem. We're able to handle bugs and know that they'll eventually be fixed, but the average consumer isn't. But now that 4.2 is essentially perfected, manufacturer devices will begin rolling out strictly with 4.2.2. So, yes. We were guinea pigs to prepare the newest version of Android for more popular devices. It's a necessary evil, but I don't see how anyone doesn't realize that it's true,
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
Would rather have AV z10 over the end for any day

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[Nexus 4 General] jtc276:
Well, I'm glad that a phone released six months after the S3 is better. I wouldn't expect it to be worse. But it's not completely better. The camera on the Nexus 4 is lacking, it has very little accessories compared the S3, and the S3 has a subjectively equal or maybe even better than the Nexus 4. Sure, the CPU and GPU of the Nexus 4 destroys the S3, but that's about it.

Oh, and the Note 2 is clearly the best phone on the market right now. And I don't see how anyone could say that split screen multitasking isn't amazing. On a mobile device as large as the Note 2, it's very useful and extremely innovative.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Don`t get me wrong about Samsung, they have top devices. The Note 2 is one of the best phones available and if the S4 comes out i even may buy it. Buth the pure android feeling of the Nexus devices and the speed of the N4 is pure awesome. And for nearly all the Samsung apps and widgets there are alternatives in Google Play (except S-Pen features). Both Nexus and Samsung devices are good but they attract a different kind of user. Sammy for the out of the box xperience and Nexus for techies and devs.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
So I still don't see how any of that justifies railing on the Nexus program as somehow forcing users to suffer through bugs. Also you don't have to search far to find people who don't like the Note 2's silly split screen. A small percentage of people like the Note 2, its a good device if you want something like that or if you don't have a Nexus 7 but its by no means some runaway wildfire success like the S3. I personally think they're stupid but of course its good for the market to have choices and I'm glad if it has a niche.

Sent from my Paranoid Android Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
The Note 2 is hardly a niche device, there are allready millions sold of the device. The size/big screen however makes it not likable for everyone. Playing games, watching video and browsing is heavenly on the device and the cpu performs much better than the one on the S3 despite more than double the pixels.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I read the post without seeing who posted it and totally agree with it. Turns out that's my bro gee2012! You're right though, I just got another nexus 4 after spending nearly a couple of months with the One X, I forgot how FAST and FLUID the nexus 4 is, it really is something else. I don't think that there's a phone out there that is as speedy as the N4. But Sammy phones are great and feature packed, the S3 was very good but it had its own issues, hopefully Samsung will learn from those issues and fix them in the SIV. I think the S4 will be worth the wait, let see what happens.

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But...I think the note 2 is a perfect phone, I mean it literally, at least for me. To me, there's no need for a custom rom or any kernel, that phone is THE best phone I have ever used hands down. I had no complain whatsoever about it, except that it was too good.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Hey bro, nice to see you here :D I think i`am gona root it now and flash a Cyanogenmod nightly. Are you rooted yet?
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Hell yeah! Rooted it the second I got home, flashed paranoidandroid with motley kernel. This thing is beyond fast!
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
Well when apple sells 380 thousand iPhones a day there's just absolutely no way to argue that the note 2 is some breakout success. Lets just keep our heads on our shoulders, shall we? It is the very definition of a niche device. And what do you mean double the pixels? The S3 and the Note 2 have the exact same screen resolution.

Sent from my Paranoid Android Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
Nexus 4 is more of a niche device.

Phablet sales are phenomenal in Asia and emerging markets are where the growth is at. Phablets are not a niche globally speaking.

Apple is still having trouble in India and China. Market share and profit share are key and Apple is losing both due to its poor performance in the Asian market (among others). It's impossible to ignore BRICS now.

Market share and carrier interest proves that the market demand is largely in non-Nexus devices. Nexus devices don't sell well for whatever reason and this is not just due to poor supply chain management.
[Nexus 4 General] jtc276:
It doesn't force anyone to do anything. Everyone who buys a Nexus device should realize this. I'm not saying that Nexus devices are bad at all. I loved my Nexus 7, but by the time I received my Nexus 4, the experience had grown stale and I was a bit envious of the features on Galaxy devices.

The great thing about split screen is that you can turn it off...along with nearly all of the other Samsung features. None of them are permanent. And, personally, I wouldn't own a Note because of the size. But, like you said, there's obviously a market.