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[Nexus 4 General] zubin111:
I would add some more to these if it applies to anyone's taste... S3 has a much better camera, stellar and loud audio performance (headphone), a much better screen responsiveness (I played fruit ninja on both side by side and i was miserable on the N4...) so in all if you want a media consumption device as the priority at the cost of slight performance disadvantage i think you know the choice...
[Nexus 4 General] theguitarman94:
My I ask your reasonings on making that decision?
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
anyone come from a lumia??
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
Im no math guru. .But dam son:confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
I think he sold the 4s for that amount...still has the 5, but wishes he kept the 4s.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
About a hour or so running around this morning

Sold iphone 4s @ $420

IPhone 4s 16gb white unlocked, Plus a mophie charging case & a bumper case, still had apple care warranty till Oct 2013..All original contents, boxes etc..

Nexus 4 I traded for the iphone 5 32gb unlocked, Seller posted it on craigslist at $550. Seller didnt care for IOS and wanted to go back to android, I sent him my link nexus 4 posted at $500. He did his research and was interested, iphone checked out clean esn etc. Very nice guy mid 40s or so, met up with him at his work and made the trade.

After that paid someone $5 to cut my sim to nano, everything up and running fine. Iphone 5 I'm getting use to it, iphone 4s screen size ratio was better. Would I have bought an iphone 5, NO, but it was a good trade. Although I don't have the need for 32gb of storage.

Iphone 4s I would rather have kept it, but for what I paid I can't complain.

Nexus 4: device I received was pretty damn solid, excellent for the price! I may consider it in the future if I go back to android. May just sell the iphone 5 and switch back over. Personally I was VERY content with the iphone 4s, no need to customize, or play with daily. The day I used the nexus 4 I do miss some android things.
[Nexus 4 General] guest_2011:
yes it's a pain when charging in car and connecting auxiliary input. I keep the phone vertically. Either way i'll have wires sticking out from both ends.
[Nexus 4 General] Killer0Kevin:
I don't know how much longer I can wait. Might get an S3.

S3 (international or NA) vs N4.
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
You'll regret that... not to be clique but patience is a virtue

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] glebonator:
Can't figure out whether to switch from a GNex... the phone (running a custom 4.1 rom) does everything I want and doesn't slow down at all. Hard to justify getting a new phone, especially given that I'd have to ditch my grandfathered real unlimited data plan and Verizon in general (in the Bay Area ATT&T is almost unusable)...
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
I know the feeling, the only reason I switched when I did was because I broke my phone for the third time and I was out of insurance claims :what:

I'm so glad i did tho

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] sinister.dexter:
Just put it in your pocket right-side up. No big deal. Unless you're just bothered by having wires on both ends in an Aux jack?

As a Bluetooth headphone user, I couldn't care less where they put the headphone jack, or if it has one all. heh.
[Nexus 4 General] FlukerFlakes:
It sucks when I have it charging in the car with the headphone jack in it. There are cords coming out both ends of the phone, so laying the phone on my lap is cumbersome. With both cords on one side, like the nexus s, i could do this easily.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
It's much easier to deal with in a pocket on the bottom, I think pockets are far more common than aux connectors in the car.
[Nexus 4 General] Pluto:
Anyone switched from a One X? I wanna do it because its cheap and I'll get a bunch of new features and ditch HTC's annoying policies by hardly paying anything. Share your story please.

Sent from my Paranoid Android.
[Nexus 4 General] MusicMan374:
Why did the moderator close a thread on a specific phone versus a specific phone that was started six days before this one and tell everyone to continue in a broad thread about Nexus 4 versus ALL phones? That's ridiculous, we had a decent discussion going on about the Nexus 4 versus the Iphone 5, not versus the One X or the SGSIII or any other phone. That is the equivalent of closing the U.S. thread on play store orders and telling everyone to post in the official Play store orders & shipping thread. Please reopen the other thread, this is not an authoritarian dictatorship, this is a discussion board.
[Nexus 4 General] phreak24:
Nexus 4 is my only hope now: my cellular provider (WIND Mobile, Canada), which has excellent unlimited plans is incompatible with iPhone.

I had to dump iPhone 4 for Galaxy Nexus to migrate to WIND and can't wait to get rid of Galaxy Nexus. This phone is so cheaply and poorly designed in any possible aspect, that I don't know what surprises me more: what kind of idiots work for Samsung or what kind of Google morons approved that phone as Nexus device and put Google name on it. Galaxy Nexus is by far the most ugly and inconvenient phone I've ever had.

So I would really appreciate opinions of those who switched from Galaxy Nexus to Nexus 4. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
You sound like a iPhone snob.... Just the way you phrased it. Anyways I went from a iPhone 4 to a s2 to my nexus 4 and the nexus 4 is quite amazing. It feels like the iPhone 4 but bigger and with a rubber grip around the edge which makes it so much easier to hold. Build quality is up there with iphones. Really good! And the galaxy nexus wasn't that badly designed as you claim.. I held and used a friends and it felt very durable.
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
I see a retard here but it isn't Google or Samsung .

---------- Post added at 11:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:43 PM ----------

Nexus 4 seems like it is most likely the best phone, or at least up there. However, I think that they could have made it a lot better. Including LTE would have helped. I would have also preferred if it looked exactly like the international Optimus G with Android 4.2. I think the G's design is nicer and the dimensions a lot better. I know the wireless charging would add some thickness but not 8.45 up all the way to 9.1.

The Optimus G is a sexy phone with sleek dimensions. The Nexus 4 looks too much like the Gnex and is bigger and fatter than it should be. Plus the camera and possibly the battery, according to some reviews, could be better.

Overall, I would give it to the Nexus 4 by a hair but I think the GS3 is the more well rounded phone due to LTE and the better camera and ergonomics.
[Nexus 4 General] MusicMan374:
I think what he is referring to are the specs... AMOLED display with the stupid pentile pixel layout that makes it look like MDPI, and the ****ty camera.

IMO, Nexus 4 > Iphone 4/5 > GS2

The Nexus 4 DOES have LTE, it's just not enabled by the software. It has the hardware for it. Ultimately, it's an unnecessary battery hog when HSPA+ gives the same speed with only slightly more latency times than LTE. Real world differences are slim to none, besides better battery life with HSPA+. Besides, the only carrier using LTE on the GSM band is AT&T, do it doesn't apply to most of the world. The Optimus G is an ugly block, what are you talking about? The whole point of the nexus series is that they look similar to each other and have the same shape and feel in your hand. 8.45-9.1, we are talking about 0.65 of a millimeter. Again, come on, real world difference? Please. It's less than a millimeter, you can't honestly sit there and tell me it makes a real world difference. It's perfectly reasonable for a wireless charging inductive coil to take up half of a millimeter. It's half of a millimeter, for god's sake. The camera might not be up to spec with newer HTC cameras, but it's pretty damn good, and the software elements of the camera make up for it (360 degree photosphere, easy navigation/options, postprocessing, etc). The battery is a 2,100 mAh battery, that is plenty for a day of normal use. If you want to complain about bad battery life, go try out a Droid DNA with that 1080p screen and only a 1,900 mAh battery. The GSIII is a terrible device when you include their terrible TouchWiz interface with the score. The Nexus 4 is vanilla android, as Google intended it to be, in all of its glory. Samsung has the worst reputation for screwing it up on the software end. Hardware it may be pretty nice, but even then, the Nexus 4 is better in raw specs.

If you want the Nexus 4 to be like the optimus G, then get an optimus G, they are not the same device.

If we are going to argue over fractions of a millimeter, than Nexus 4 is actually less wide than the Optimus G, and its curves make it appear even less wide. Its minimalist design is incredible, and LG did a much better job with cosmetics on the Nexus 4 than any of their previous phones.
[Nexus 4 General] bronx:
This.

I've bought iPhone 5 recently (1st iphone ever) and after many years/devices with android (started with htc hd2 :cool: ) I have to admit, that this is not a black and white situation. Ios went a long way as well and it actually isn't half as bad as some people want to picture it.

Ok, far less customisation, but again - after years of WORKING on android I spend less time trying to tweak it for speed and looks - more time for real life activities. I understand that some people just love tinkering with their devices and it's their life/hobby, but I came to the point where I prefer to spend time with my kid.

Itunes... Well... It's evil. Not even remotely as easy as plugging in android device to pc to copy things. Sad thing is, that Google is following this path as from JB one cannot connect droid as a disc drive. mtp mode is still better than itunes, but what if I want to copy my files with total commander like I always used to? Ok. I'm sure that there's a solution. :rolleyes:

I have nexus 7 which is a maginificent device. As I said numerous times on these boards, it pretty much replaced my laptop for most of the day to day tasks. Great, complex device. Runs smoothly, no bigger problems - perfect android experience.

Do I want my phone to be equally complex? Do I need it to be?

I respect other people choices and I'm old enough not to follow trends or fanboyism waves. Saying that iphone users are sheep or even iDiots it's a bit of a stretch nowadays. Ios is simple, but also quite advanced. It's different. Most, if not all tasks can be accomplished on iphone, with the exception of some legacy file operations. Well... I don't "torrent" my movies anymore nor "unrar" my music.

N4 vs iPhone 5?

If your phone is your main computing device - N4.

More file types that you can work with and better overall control of content. Some people really care about the looks of the system, so customisation is much deeper in here as well.

Build quality, speed and battery life, camera, app quality and choice - iPhone 5.

People will eat me alive in here anyway, but one have to spend a day with it to be able to judge. For now, I feel that I've received all the things that I was looking for in android devices. The price that I have to pay (ios vs android) is high, as I will miss some solutions to common tasks, but I'll try to get used to my ex-enemy.

Don't call me convert yet, I just need a break from problems and I shall get back to the right side of the fence with that one device I'm waiting for... sgs4 maybe? ;)
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
That sums it up nicely. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] FLeite:
I've been waiting for Nexus 4, a friend has it and will send it to me.

But I have an unopened SGS3 right by my side.

So, that's why I am asking. I can easily sell one or the other.

Damn, been waiting for 1 month for the N4, and the wait and reviews made me wonder,
[Nexus 4 General] rageguy:
I know how you feel. I am using the Nexus 4 right now and a new sealed S3 is on my desk. I may just sell the S3 for money. But that AMOLED screen, that thinness, that expandable storage, that LTE, that battery life. All that for a bit more performance (quad core) and fast OS updates.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
I just spent 2 days with my friend's droid DNA, that screen is just so gorgeous... I think I'll probably get the next HTC flagship too @_@
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Do it. Then get pissed off with lack of post sales updates, start a campaign that leads nowhere, give up, and go for Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] pnut22r:
Either of them T-Mobile? How much?
[Nexus 4 General] FLeite:
Sorry... I'm in Portugal
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
I had the SGS3 loved it but had a sweet scenario where I sold it for 400 and got the att optimus G for 99.99 so I now have the optimus G and its a sweet ass phone but lack of jellybean and possibility of never receiving it made me make the jump to the nexus 4 it should arrive next week so excited !
[Nexus 4 General] boodies:
Lovin your signature my reformed Brother!
[Nexus 4 General] AndreaCristiano:
Thank you brother Gods peace be upon you
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Hmm, I'm starting to have my own doubts. Mainly because this phone is selling for around 1.8 times it's price here, and I'm getting tempted to put mine up for sale as soon as I get it. But the more I think of which *other* phone to get, the more I start to feel that the N4 might actually be the best phone out there. I don't like the S3. I don't like how it looks and how common it is.
[Nexus 4 General] icepally:
I love mine, coming from the sgs3 it feels like it has much more to offer. It is a phone you can have and not have to worry about getting the next best thing in a month or two.

The downfall is the wait time for google orders. I had to cave and get it from eBay for much higher than market price. Especially for the 16gb.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I paid about $120 usd too much for the nexus and I feel that even at that price it was still worth it. I've got my sgs3 up for sale right now and will probably break even on the sale of that with accessories.

Exactly. With a nexus this powerful you can be totally assured that you will not have to upgrade for at least 2-3 years and you'll still have the latest version of android. Any other phone will sure last you that long but it will be running old firmware by then. This is why over half of androids in circulation today still run gingerbread, a version of android which is over two years old now.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Nice long post, well put! I'm very content with the iphone 5 , traded my nexus 4 for a 32gb iphone 5 unlocked (straight trade). I have been trying to scale back on trading/selling phones, too much of a bad hobby. I havent been on contract for over 5 years, which I may sign one come jan. pending what my carrier offers (gs3, new blackberry device).

IOS simple and excellent daily driver, yes I would like a jailbreak but overall I am satisfied without constantly checking XDA for an update for a custom rom etc...

Android, love it...FREEDOM... custom roms are fun but time consuming and I was always wanting the latest device. I would sell or trade, nexus 4 I would've probably kept it if not offered the trade for an iphone 5. I would be flashing roms, and constantly checking for updates on daily basis :p fun hobby but I have grown tired of doing so. Its a bad addiction :D , nexus 4 will last a good amount of time BUT if others are like me they will want to sell/trade once the gs4 arrives.
[Nexus 4 General] Yarox:
I see some of you have it easy, being able to buy the phone from Google.

I live in an unsupported region in Europe and I ended up paying 450€ for the device, which is 100€ more than the European Google Play price (350€) and absolutely outrageous for US standards (595$). However, the fact that I sold my GS2 helped fund the endeavour. I can say that this is the single most satisfying android phone I have ever had the pleasure of using. I agree largely with winrya, although now that I have the IPS screen I have learned to resent the over-saturated amoled. In a nutshell, I do not regret a single cent.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
How did you end up spending that much money? I live in a play store unsupported region too, and using a shipping forwarding service the N4 is costing me 349+14(domestic shipping)+26(international shipping)+15(customs).
[Nexus 4 General] SoleAngelus:
Totally agree, I came from a HTC hero as my primary after having a few different ones over the years, first time going into the nexus range, very happy. think this will last me for a while for a day to day device :)
[Nexus 4 General] iFalcon:
Great post. I have also been trying to control my flashing habits.
[Nexus 4 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
Had my N4 the first week it was available and at first i loved everything about it. it was a great phone until my sister got a note 2. After holding the note 2 and seeing those gorgeous colors pop with those insane blacks and that HUGE screen i knew i had to go back to samsung. While the N4 may have the best cpu in the market, the note 2 was comparable in the smootheness department. I also missed the expandable memory and the LTE so i sold the N4 and have been absolutely loving the note 2 which in my opinion is the king of phones right now.
[Nexus 4 General] rageguy:
Sorry, I'm in Canada. The phone has been unlocked as well. :) I'm selling it to my friend for just $400. I think it's a good deal for a brand new S3 unlocked.:angel:
[Nexus 4 General] Yarox:
Well that's the going price for the phone at the moment (on European Ebay auctions, slightly higher on local dealers), I just got a good local deal. I've never really used shipping forwarding services, although now that you mentioned it, it does sound appealing for future purchases. Which service did you use if you don't mind me asking?
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Best display: HTC droid dna

Best cpu:Nexus 4,DROID dna, other s4 pro devices

Best Gpu: 1.Iphone 5 :( 2.s4 pro...

Best camera:nokia pureview 808(video recording at lower fps though)(others are good too not noticeable difference)

Best software : nexus 4

Best battery : DROID razr maxx

Most value for money :nexus 4

sent from my gs3 GT i 9300

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stock jb 4.1.1 , siyah kernel1.83,dual boot

1st Rom stock jb 4.1.1

2nd Rom cm10 4.1.2
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
But the best overall device. .. note 2

scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] uppon2:
So you're saying people are buying phones based solely on TW/Sense? Hmm I would have thought the hardware or bandwagon sheep would be the reason why "numbers don't lie" - I can see where you're coming from in some of your statements but this one is not accurate and very misleading.

You do realise that there is only a minuscule community that actually mod their phones in comparison of sales, I would be guessing around 30%. If every single phone owner did want to mod their phone I am pretty confident more people would start being very cautious over which phone will be their best option in overall.

Right now the rest of the community either follow their friends or they simply don't know and just get what they think is cool or at least looks cool, or whatever the salesman wants to sell them. It's also safe to say that people are still fighting to get the Nexus 4 and total sales and community is hindered by this, there is no clear argument yet. It is no secret that the SGS 3 and Not 2 have sold extremely well however.

I would be happy to have a Note 2, SGS 3 and a Nexus 4 for different reasons. In reality that is not feasible for me. I'm still hesitant to settling on any of them just yet considering companies have finally worked out how to cram massive displays in to small chasis. This is really going to BOOM! with in 6 months. I have an SGS 3 here and a sealed Nexus 4. I plan to sell the SGS 3 and use the Nexus 4 until I see these new designs. Keep an open mind for Sony, Motorola, Acer and Oppo
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Haven't used it yet, I'm still waiting for my device to get shipped. But yeah, I'm using comGateway. It's located at a state in the US which doesn't have sales tax so you save money over there as well.
[Nexus 4 General] revolve82:
comGateway $26 Shipping fees is for 1 or 2 units?
[Nexus 4 General] uppon2:
Saying it is best overall, is like comparing apples to an androids ;) (Pun intended) Some people will sacrifice certain hardware aspects of a device solely based on which software is available for it.

Overall in terms of sheer power, battery life, features and creativity, I would have to agree with you. But this device has a clear advantage to cram a bigger battery and such in to it due to the nature of it's dimensions. This is also it's disadvantage for a lot of users who don't like the size and are willing to sacrifice in order to have the right device for them.

To me I thought the SGS 3 was the best overall, however. I have owned Every Samsung Galaxy from 1-3 and to be honest I am kind of looking for something different after so long. I guess I want to try some new devices out! That's why I purchased the Nexus 4, I want to try some things out I never have before:

1. Vanilla Android

2. On Screen Buttons

3. LCD

4. New Brand

5. Different Community and Developers.

That's just my opinion anyway. The SGS 3 might be better and I might go straight back after a week. But I do want to try and see for myself before I sell any of my handsets! - I dare say I will stick with the Nexus 4 until at least the middle of next year when they bring out something else that interests me
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
I have a nexus 4 and a note 2...I am giving the nexus 4 to my brother. .

People who think the note 2 is big have never used it. ..if you use it for a day. . You will never go back to smaller screens

I still feel it is the best device out there irrespective of its size (íf you think it's a con. .it is the only one for you... and everything else is pro)

Add the smart dock accessory to the note 2 and it is unbeatable:eek:

scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus-S:
I think the Note 2 is too big because it is too big.
[Nexus 4 General] ghettopops:
I have the Note and the N4. I sold my GS2 to buy the N4. I used to switch between the Note and the GS2 but do to different sim sizes I no longer do. I am probably getting the N2 next month to replace my Note. I will have to say the camera on my Note took better straight up photos. I can not 1hand the note but can the N4. Video plays better on the smaller screen, no black crush. I LOVE the Ram and lack of lag on my N4. My Note feels a lot sturdier though. I just wish sim adapters worked better, I would use my Note for more than a Mini Tablet.
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
That's what people said when I bought the htc hd2 at 4.3 inches size, in 2009:p:D;)

scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
You have a point, but you can't keep going on like that forever. No one defined a screen size for it to keep being a smartphone and not a tablet with phone fuctionality, but it has to be portable.

Maybe we can do bigger than 5.5 inch though. We've just got to shrink the bezel until there's almost nothing left. Oh, and foldable/flexible displays. That's the future.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Perfectly said...most that say the N2 is too big are people who picked it up at the store for 10 secs and set it back down. I too thought a 5.5" screen was ridiculous until I actually gave it a shot foe a few days. I will never own another screen below 5" again...they just look like toys to me now.
[Nexus 4 General] boodies:
I think it's fare to say at this point the Note 2 is the best phone you can get.
[Nexus 4 General] il buono:
It's up to an individual to decide. It's unfair to say one device is the best when there are so many options each with their advantages/disadvantages. I can't comment on the Note 2 since I've never owned it.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] kolyan:
Perhaps you are right, I like Note 2, but when I held it in my hand it was HUGE and I just didn't see myself using it as comfortably as GNex. I wish I could play with one for a few days or so.