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[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
Buying a new device is not stupid, you need to buy the right one. But I guess its OK for YOU to give advice but not me.

What makes you think Moto has it?

I'm a phone buyer, like everyone on here. I recommended buying Nexus devices. If people want a fully working ICS/JB, they need to get another phone.

And I can read fine, your English is a little broken and I have difficulty reading it.

Sent with my Nexus 7
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
What makes me think that Moto has kernel source?! Are you kidding? :D
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
Well I'm done going back and forth. Lemme know how spamming that guy works out.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Just follow thread. To answer your question using simple logic. Motorola developed ICS, that's why we got two leaks. I don't think that after cancellation all source is just deleted.

And let say that I have some inside info.
[Atrix 4G General] Random Canadian:
Yeah! why in the world would Motorola have the source code for something they started building from scratch!

Zeljko1234, such a noob.

Andrew you are OT and trolling, plus when you said to work OT for a phone? haha reminded me of when Sony said that about launching the PS3 at $699, that worked well for them right?

Short of finding someone who has/had access to the kernel source we need and holding them or a loved one at gun point (not that I recommend) the only thing you will hear from Moto at this point will be dismissive nonesense or Ill look into that for you.
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
Just because you don't agree with something I say doesnt make me a troll. People throw around the term troll waaaaaaaaaayyyy too much.

Hey that kid has long hair, he must be emo.

I don't think they have something that works. I think the leak was all of it. Wasn't the reason why it wouldn't work was that they couldn't get it to work 100%? I could be wrong so correct me on that part if I am.

Sent with my Nexus 7
[Atrix 4G General] Random Canadian:
They compiled the leaked build from source, so you are suggesting they compiled a ****ty, half baked debug rom and then deleted the source?

You REALLY think Motorola lacks the skills or resources to build a fully functional build of 4.X for tegra 2? but 6+ guys here can get it working

with 90% functionality with no source code in their spare time?

If you are going to answer yes to that just go sit in a corner and think about that until you find yourself back in the land of reality with the rest of us. The update was cancelled because someone did not want it to be, for whatever reason. Not because it can not be made.
[Atrix 4G General] tatperson:
Calling others a n00b and a troll doesn't make you any better dude. And I believe Zeljko1234's contribution here is much greater than yours, so in what way is he a n00b?

Sent from the world's (once) most powerful smartphone.
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
I don't get the conspiracy talk. I don't get why these threads are still popping up. Sell your Atrix and get a different phone that has JB/ICS if you need it THAT bad. Otherwise, shut up and use your fully functioning phone on GB. Or use Epinters CM10 that works 90%.

Or just talk more about why it got cancelled.

God speed on your quest.

Sent with my Nexus 7
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
You should take your own advice instead of trolling nonsense.
[Atrix 4G General] windozeanti:
I will sell my Atrix if I am able to buy a Nexus 4. However, its not available in Singapore. :(
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
Actually, in his own words, Punit Soni is the guy "Responsible for all things software at Motorola Mobility".

That said, we have yet to get a reliable answer out of him for anything other than Verizon devices. For instance, the update process becoming more transparent led to the week long information black out, followed by the update cancellations and now any planned updates have nothing at all to indicate if they will roll out in our lifetime, essentially trading their favorite word "soon" for an unspoken "someday".

If they give us the source, it will likely be in the form of another leak (which may or may not be useful for official CyanogenMod) mainly because they're pretty unlikely to release source for an update that doesn't work. Another solution might be to get someone with some mad soldering skills to add a serial debugging port and JTAG to some donor devices.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
We just need kernel source.

Do you have schema how to enable serial port (UART)? I'm quite good with soldering.
[Atrix 4G General] tatperson:
But you can import from U.S mah :) Got worldwide warranty some more (according to LG Singapore)

Sent from the world's (once) most powerful smartphone.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
Serial port should be in the Tegra 2 datasheet. From my understanding the Tegra 2 actually has 4 serial ports, although they may be used for other things. I suspect that you may have to remove the chip from the board. Here's a thread where JTAG for the device was discussed. Note that at that time, datasheets for the Tegra 2 were next to impossible to get, but now apparently are available upon request.

Here's an article where someone has added a serial to USB cable to a Tegra 2 based Toshiba AC100 laptop. The USB to serial cables from certain phones are usually far cheaper than building them yourself from components or buying actual USB to serial cables. Obviously this is different than the Atrix, but it does illustrate what you can expect when it's done.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Yes, according dmesg t2 has 4 serial port but none of them are connected to headphone out. We tested several times.

<6>[ 14.787765] tegra_uart.0: ttyHS0 at I/O 0x0 (irq = 68) is a unknown

<6>[ 14.788007] Registered UART port ttyHS0

<6>[ 14.788072] tegra_uart.2: ttyHS2 at I/O 0x0 (irq = 78) is a unknown

<6>[ 14.788296] Registered UART port ttyHS2

<6>[ 14.788336] tegra_uart.3: ttyHS3 at I/O 0x0 (irq = 122) is a unknown

<6>[ 14.788573] Registered UART port ttyHS3

<6>[ 14.788613] tegra_uart.4: ttyHS4 at I/O 0x0 (irq = 123) is a unknown

<6>[ 14.788829] Registered UART port ttyHS4

I made cable (it's really simple), have USB to serial adapter, even have serial on laptop dock. Thank you for links, I'll take a look. Let me know if you found another documentation. For example Atrix mother board pin out.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
It might be possible to implement some type of breakout board for the tegra chip using vias on the board for the connections to pass through and then pull the chip and sandwich that in between the motherboard and the chip. From a design standpoint it probably wouldn't be that difficult and there are companies that would make the board fairly cheap . The challenge would be soldering it all together, successfully.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried doing a checksum comparison of the drivers for the different Tegra 2 based devices out there? Writing a python script to do the comparisons would be easy, but gathering all the sources, that's where the challenge lies.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
It would be nice to have one physically broken but still functional Atrix to play with. If situation is similar to AC100 it would be quite easy to solder few wires on the motherboard.

Does anyone know someone who works in the service of mobile phones?

Anyway, I remember that I found this.
[Atrix 4G General] HustlinDaily:
Re-read the entire post. He clearly was not serious.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
Interesting, take a look at that JTAG thread, specifically this post. The debugging serial port is apparently part of that JTAG connection, which I'm guessing is the part of the board shown in the photo. So really, it looks like you could add a serial/JTAG cable with minimal effort, where "minimal effort" is in contrast to removing and replacing the SoC.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Replacing SoC is really hard. Some special soldering tool is required but as you said, to add few wires should be quite easy. Anyway, must be done carefully because PCB usually has very thin copper which is easy to destroy.

I saw many schematics but this one is confusing. Does it mean that JTAG connector is actually free pins in the middle on the second picture? To the right of the yellow chip?
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
That's what I'm assuming and that the pins in the diagram correspond to the pads on the board, although they may be rotated 180 degrees. However, according to picture on the iFixit site, the pads are covered by a shield. Still though, this is far better than hacking the thing to death. The trick would be to get a connector that matches the pads on the board so that you don't have to try to solder wires directly to the pads and end up having them ripped off the board later on.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Great idea with connector! Could you please post links every time when you find something, like from iFix? I can search but to be sure what you think.

Anyway, did you find that kind of connector already?

P.S.

Believe me, I'm not lazy. Actually right now I have another conversation about Atrix and UART.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
The iFixit link is here. Getting an exact connector will take some research, obviously it's a surface mount type and very small. I'll see if I can find something later on tonight from Newark/Farnell.

Edit:

You'd probably end up with something like this when finished although you still need the connector itself.

Edit2:

It looks like the best match for a connector is the same type as shown on the other side of the board as shown here. I'm not sure if that narrows it down any or not.
[Atrix 4G General] windozeanti:
If I am not wrong, there is no international warranty for LG devices.
[Atrix 4G General] tatperson:
Huh really? But the last time I saw someone ask this on LG Singapore's facebook page, they said any Nexus 4 bought from the Play Store will be covered under warranty even if you import it...

Sent from the world's (once) most powerful smartphone.
[Atrix 4G General] windozeanti:
I don't really trust what LG advised on their Facebook page. He/She could be a noob posting some mis-information. I will wait and see first.
[Atrix 4G General] Ffin72:
Why? I've had my Atrix less than 12 months, it works and I've invested in the accessories, I'd just like have the option of installing an ICS rom that is good enough for everyday use, which Motorola said they would provide. Why should I spend more money?
[Atrix 4G General] ajayfreezer:
atrix ics update

guys...see gsmarena page....

lg is updating its optimus 2x...http://www.gsmarena.com/android_40_ics_update_for_lg_optimus_2x_is_now_available-news-5172.php

for god sake why did moto stop the atrix ics project....its a shame...

we can do only one thing to get back our demand for ics...

by trolling motorola's facebook sites with requests....http://https://www.facebook.com/motorola?ref=ts&fref=ts

:fingers-crossed:
[Atrix 4G General] palmbeach05:
Might work, but we've been at it for weeks, no real response besides the unofficial release that the devs have been playing with. And we are on the way towards a decent kernel, they're working on that at the moment
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
The posts on moto's FB page about this and other issues have died down over the past few months because moto has been banning people rather than deal with the problems
[Atrix 4G General] strokemesilly:
What he said.
[Atrix 4G General] twaffle:
This may or may not make a lick of difference, however, I was directed to the sourceforge pages by the director of OSS at Google. He is looking into getting me the contact information of the proper folks inside of Motorola.

https://sourceforge.net/motorola/atrix/discussion/general_comments/thread/5b551bd6/
[Atrix 4G General] trashbytes:
You didn't mention the Atrix, you just said kernel source. Does he know which phone you are talking about?

Gesendet von meinem MB860 mit Tapatalk
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
The response certainly seems to indicate he doesn't know which ROM or kernel was being referred to.
[Atrix 4G General] andreskafe:
Is a Motorola Atrix forum, this implied that refers to Motorola Atrix.

[desde mi MotoAtrix]
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
BTW, I asked someone inside Motorola about releasing the source code or at least enough of it to fill in the blanks for the "Olympus ICS/JB Kernel Port" and the response I got was

Sounds to me that the decision was already made and the answer was "No".
[Atrix 4G General] AnotherBill:
Not surprising. I've long been given the impression they want this phone to vanish from history.

Just waiting on tax returns to go pick up a nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] DrClown:
The fact that they still think that going back on promoted promises of over a year was "right thing to do", despite it completely destroying their reputation, and losing a very large portion of the few brand loyal customers they had, shows how far they have their heads up their asses at Moto.

Just goes to show they they don't give a **** about end users, and only desire to be Sprint / Verizon etc's *****.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
In a world that's mostly GSM, they're trying desperately to compete for CDMA (Verizon) market share. Makes sense :silly:
[Atrix 4G General] Fastrite:
Thanks for trying, but I think we would have more joy asking Walt Disney :D
[Atrix 4G General] guidoido004:
give it a shot, theres nothing more to be said. who wants to help, help, who doesnt, get a new phone and stop complaining in the atrix forum. ;D
[Atrix 4G General] saldirai:
I start to love Cem Uzan, a Turkish businessman who had conned Motorola & Nokia for 3 billion dollars, years ago.

"if Motorola were on his side of the fence they might feel that his decision was the right one"
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
Yes, the constant complaining gets old, but those who could move on have already done so. Those who seem to care the least are those that have other devices or purchased the device off contract for what the device is really worth rather than being stuck in a contract and still paying for the device.

As far as helping goes, there are only 2 ways to help, but both involve the Olympus kernel project. The first way is a financial contribution, which is unlikely from someone who can't afford to upgrade, and the other is code contributions, which requires not only knowledge of C and the kernel, but at this moment, requires sacrificing a device because of the current JTAG requirement, which, again, is highly unlikely for someone who is stuck with the device. But that's the extent of options for helping as that is the only effort still alive in developing a kernel.

It may not be what you want to hear, but that's the reality of the situation.
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Another way to help is to not put any pressure on the kernel devs. They are already doing as much as they can as fast as they can. We are all impatient, we want results sooner than later, want to know what all the new kernel will be capable of, wonder if they'll get to implement this or that feature... However at this point asking about such things probably does more damage than good. Sometimes doing nothing is the best way to help. Asking occasionally about current state of the project (for example, after not having an update after a long time) is acceptable, but don't overdo that either.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
Beautifully said. I think some of that is from when we bring up the project in other discussions and people get excited and expect instant results, mainly because they don't realize just what the devs are up against. They're trying to do what it took a team at Motorola 7 months to do before giving up, a team who got paid to do it, and had access to dev kits, people and documentation that the Olympus kernel project devs do not, and they're doing it in their spare time rather than the effort being their full time job.

I'd suggest adding an FAQ somewhere for the project, but people won't read it anyway.
[Atrix 4G General] harszeee:
wwwDOTtegraownersDOTcom[ is this site of any use
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
It doesn't appear to be. I can only find 4 posts on the entire site that even mention the Atrix. However, this site does supposedly have developers from Motorola who were familiar with the Atrix. Somewhere there is a comment about the ICS update bricking devices.
[Atrix 4G General] barry_:
I know I've seen this posted elsewhere but some recent posts on this thread are really interesting

http://sourceforge.net/motorola/atrix/discussion/general_comments/thread/5b551bd6/?limit=25&page=0
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
Yeah, let's just say that I'll believe it when I see it. I've learned that when it comes to Motorola, hope and optimism only lead to greater disappointment each and every time.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Come on, did you read last post?
[Atrix 4G General] barry_:
why bother going on and on and on about Motorola every chance you have? It is boring. I'm as gutted as anyone that we didn't get an update but I am still happy with my Atrix as a phone. The chap from Moto is answering (and asking WHAT devs want specifically) the questions as honestly as anyone can and is telling us how things are and what limitations/hurdles he has to go through to try and get us what we need.

Take a step back and chill :cowboy:
[Atrix 4G General] harszeee:
yea its about time people enjoy their device a bit rather than cussing about it(i was one :p too ). any way moving on i will be on the nexus way from here on. just my 2 cents
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
For starters, this isn't my backup device or my primary device, this is my only device, and one that I'm still paying for, so moving on is beyond my ability at the moment.

Second, until they can show otherwise, this "new Motorola" is nothing more than a marketing strategy to repair their damaged reputation and win back some trust. They wouldn't need to win back trust if they intended to earn it. But what's really changed? People are still having to send in their devices multiple times for the same repairs, and sometimes those devices come back worse. Updates for devices are still an uncertainty (if/when). Even the life of the device itself is a bit of a mystery, not just in terms of support (updates/upgrades), but in terms of failures.

Edit: Think of it this way, we're currently getting excited over them talking about releasing semi-functional code for an update they announced a year ago.
[Atrix 4G General] ~kyle:
I agree. :highfive: The way I see it there's two responses we can have.

Option one: we can harass the one guy (Gopi) that's at least listening and having a conversation with the devs and flame him saying "Motorola is completely oblivious about how we feel" and accuse him of using a "stall tactic", continously hounding him about the ICS kernel...

...or

Option two: we can sit back and chill and let the devs carry on an intellegent conversation and build somewhat of a relationship with the dude and hope something comes out of it.

With the second option we may or may not see any fruits at all, but with the first option we definitely won't get anywhere. I believe the old saying that you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar holds true in this case.

That's my two cents anyway.
[Atrix 4G General] iranterres:
Punit Sone proved more than once that he doesn't give a damn for the Atrix, why keep bothering, my hopes are on that Sourceforge dude, we might get something from him.
[Atrix 4G General] harszeee:
the sourceforge dude is the guy who punit soni has been referring as the right guy.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
What else would you call all these responses from multiple Motorola employees about us understanding in a few months? It's been so many times by so many people that it's getting weird. The whole reason I had to question the guy in the first place was because the information I got implies the decision was already made and was a "no".

Remember, this whole thing with releasing the ICS source is a long shot at best. Even if Gopi sincerely wants to release the source code, he still has to get approval.

Motorola is going to do what they want to do regardless of what we want. They've already proven that. That doesn't mean we can't communicate in a professional manner with the guy, but keep in mind that we're still waiting for a reason to trust anyone at Motorola.

Look, I know I'm very pessimistic when it comes to Motorola, but the facts of Motorola's past and present just don't leave room for any kind of optimism at this point, especially when they can't recognize their own failures, much less learn from them.
[Atrix 4G General] saldirai:
come on guys Gopi gave it away "We need to get appropriate clearance from carriers, partners and vendors to release software that never shipped out."

Do you think they'll bother contacting carriers, partners for your atrix? Forget about it. What we need is an informal leak, which seems will never happen.

By the way, have you read the news that sony released kernel source code for Xperia Z, the phone that is not on sale.
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
I just want to emphasize this part. Attacking like children you will not achieve anything.
[Atrix 4G General] lehjr:
I agree, but keep in mind we have every reason to question anything we are being told at any level from within Motorola. Trust isn't something you win as a prize overnight, it's something you earn over a period of time with effort, and that effort seems to be quite lacking when it comes to Motorola. Instead, it appears that most of their effort is being put into their next great phone, but no matter how good it is, if they don't stand behind it, it may as well be any other previous model.

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I thought that the whole "carriers" part of that was a bit odd, considering that the leak was specifically branded for AT&T. AT&T may consider how it affects sales, extending life of the devices vs bricks by the lesser experienced users. But given the age of these devices, they may not care one way or another as long as they don't have to use any of their own resources.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thangcoo:
Hi All,

I did search a lot before posting this but could not find any answer.

I flashed http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1934288 and could not get the service from T-Mobile. I checked apns-conf.xml and saw entry for T-Mobile US in there?

Please help. I'm stuck with this for last 2 days.

Thank you.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
Flash this cm10 and change network mode to gsm but there will be no 3ghttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1934288

Or you could use this cm9 with data workinghttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1932573
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thangcoo:
I flashed build #4 of the first link you gave and could not get service. I don't need data for now.

Now I'm thinking the phone doesn't recognize the sim card. How should I check if the sim is recongized?

Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thangcoo:
I removed and inserted the SIM + rebooted and it worked now.

Thank you so much.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsua98:
There's a button for that!!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mastermind85:
Have you been able to get 3G working on the phone?
[HTC One X] @mjed:
Hi there,

I just rooted my htc one x successfully and i installed the leedroid kernel bfr i installed the leedroid rom . And now i'm stuck in boot looop ! is there a way out ?? . :crying:
[HTC One X] eyosen:
Try

Fastboot erase cache

From your pc.
[HTC One X] faiz02:
Fastboot erase cache
[HTC One X] @mjed:
any idea how to do it on a mac ?? :) :good:
[HTC One X] eyosen:
Use a virtual machine :p

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Another thing you can try. Go to your custom recovery, if it's cmw, under mounts and storage, format /cache partition.
[HTC One X] @mjed:
I tried erasing the cache thru the pc and frm the custom recovery still isnt working :/ any other solutions??? :(
[HTC One X] eyosen:
Try reflashing the boot.img and fastboot erase cache afterwards.