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[Nexus 4 General] OniV2:
Before you purchase a device you need to be sure of how much storage you require on a mobile device. The Nexus 4 isn't a flop because you require more than 12-13GB of storage. I've personally never used more than about 10GB on any device I've owned.
[Nexus 4 General] NapoOrsoCapo:
Mine is on his way as well! looking forward to test it!
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Well said. Had about 20 gb of crap stored on my s3. 80% of it was music I never listen to, apps I never used and movies I never watched.

It's also quite a nice fresh feeling to have a clean phone. Instead of over 100 apps I'm down to the 30 or so I actually need, and I can listen to tracks I enjoy without having to skip ones I don't.
[Nexus 4 General] answer1o1:
I've had my N4 for a little over a week now and I'm very happy with it. I had an iPhone 5 before. I did noticed one thing though. Example; on my iPhone 5 when I'd ask Google Search "who is Michael Jordan" she would respond with a brief biography or whatever. On my N4 when I ask the same question's I get no response back. Just the search results showing the person/thing. Is this normal? Wouldn't make sense for the iPhone to have this feature over the Google phone lol. I'm rooted on AOKP, but even when I was stock the same thing happened. Anyone else experiencing this?
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
Works for me. See if there is an update for Google search

Edit: If you mean the details should be spoken back then no, I only think it works for age when you say "How Old Is..."
[Nexus 4 General] :
I ordered mine and it shipped next day! Here in my hands; I'm in love.
[Nexus 4 General] Jsparta26:
I can't wait for mine. Its like being a little kid all over again on Christmas day. Oh the joy the joy!!
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
ordered on:Jan 29, 2013 3:03:09 PM eastern

Received UPS shipping info today: Shipped/Billed On:01/31/2013
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
I'm loving my nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Have a very tempting offer for my iphone 5 32gb.... been offered a 16gb iphone 5 plus $200 only thing is the bezel is alittle scratched up on it. It would be covered up by the otter box case I have. It is still under apple warranty as well or I can sell my iphone 5 for $575.

Would help offset the nexus 4 cost, one can be back up phone
[Nexus 4 General] coolqf:
The first question is, can you be happy with 16gb? A third option is exchange the iphone, sell the exchange and then get the nexus4. If you're very happy with the iphone I say stay with it. Switching is very hard for some people. You just get use to the way the OS works.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
And $ invested. I gave up about $20 in apps when I sold my iPad 3 (didn't get any tablet to replace it, just the N2). Some people would be giving up far more.
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
16gb is plenty for me, I barely use 8gb. Dont really use the phone for music, do have some music on it but harldy ever listen to it. Mainly pictures and those are stored on computer as well.

Ill most likely exhange the 16gb at apple for a "refurbished one" to have one that is "new". I am happy with iphone just the not the 2g data speeds.

Nexus 4 is on its way should probably arrive monday, not sure if i'll return it or keep it. Main reason I left android was I kept selling & trading phones to have the latest android device plus the rooting factor and custom development.

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Yeah majority of my purchases are through a shared ID with my wife and she is going to keep her iphone. Mainly music was purchased plus still have a few hundred dollars in credit. So not giving up too much if I make switch back to android
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
Well nexus 7 is my gaming device and nexus 4 my phone and some what gaming.
[Nexus 4 General] budbear1:
I just got my Nexus 4 yesterday and I'm coming from a T-Mobile Galaxy S2 w/ Jedi Mind Trick ICS and here are my thoughts so far:

Battery

- Battery life seems to be on par with my Galaxy S2

Hardware

- Screen has noticeably better resolution than the S2 - The N4 screen looks GREAT

- Screen has noticeably worse viewing angles that the S2

- Definitely faster than the S2, but the JMT ROM wasn't that far behind, speed wise, when launching normal apps. Games launch really fast on the N4.

- Glass is REALLY smooth - it's taking some getting used to

- Glass on front and back make it slippery

- Feels solid and looks very sharp

- I miss the dedicated menu button, but maybe it just takes some getting used to

- Good sound volume; comparable to the S2

- Camera is decent; on par with the S2 but slightly faster (not on par with the S3 which some of my friends have)

- I have about 1.5GB left after copying my pictures and music over to the N4. I will see if I end up filling it up. I probably won't since I'll likely delete the things I don't use as often more so than the S2 where it has 16GB + a 32GB SD card.

Software

- Missing some things from the GS2 like lock screen shortcuts when I get a missed call or text message, large display of phone number when someone calls, phone number auto-search, home screen tile removal and a few others.

- VERY fast and smooth

- Slick looking interfaces and user friendly for the most part

- Google Now updates rock!!

- Auto-brightness is too dim, changed to manual control (The GS2 took a few seconds for auto-brightness to kick in after starting the screen but overall did a better job)

- Android Chrome needs some work like removal of the address bar and an option to always open new tabs to the front (no different than my S2 but though I would mention it)

- I wish the software navigation buttons at the bottom were smaller, but I know I can change that

Overall, I'm liking it. I was torn between the N4 and the Note 2 but I nabbed an N4 to see how it goes. The T-Mo S2 is still a nice machine but, to me, the real advantage of the N4 is getting software updates DIRECT from Google. I know I can always change the little things with some mods. It's already rooted with TWRP so I'm good to go for any mods I want to make.

Ninja-Edit: Oh yeah, Google ships it with Google BLOATWARE that, again, I needed to root to remove completely (I was going to root anyway but it's the idea). I really wish Google would allow users to just uninstall some of their apps like: Currents, Google+, Play Movies and Music, etc. Come'on Google, let's get this part right with Key Lime Pie!!

Ninja-Edit2: Also, this phone is an GREAT value at $300-$350 from Google. I paid $400 for my GS2 11 months ago and that was a good deal back then even. For this kind of processing power, it's a great deal!!
[Nexus 4 General] HitBobLer:
nexus 4 vs others

The next phone that will breast the nexus 4 will be the nexus 5. Nothing till then! Except maybe the moto x phone!
[Nexus 4 General] answer1o1:
Yeah I'm referring to the details being spoken.
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
You can disable system apps in settings :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] budbear1:
I know I can but it still doesn't remove them from the system. They are all available in Google Play so IMO there's really no need for them to come be non-removable without rooting. They can pre-install them but don't make me have to root just to remove them when I can install and uninstall them on any other Android phone where they aren't pre-installed. I don't particularly like it when apps (junk) come installed that are not part of the OS and cannot be removed by any normal means.

I love Android but this is one of the few things that gets me. (Imagine if Windows came with a bunch of crapware you couldn't remove without rooting...and they didn't give you root access. You had to kludge it together for each different Windows make and model.)
[Nexus 4 General] sk8oldschool74:
awaiting my n4... :p but i have had every nexus device since the HTC nexus one and they keep getting better hope to see the same results w/ the n4...:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] OniV2:
I'd say that the volume output on my Nexus 4 is much better than the volume output I had on any of my previous devices. Hell, it blows the Galaxy Nexus away at how loud it can be.
[Nexus 4 General] sahussa9:
Nexus 4 is the most beautiful phone in the market right now no comparisons.. I only wish google can somehow implement some of samsung features like multi-window and stuff. I have had the note 2 and I found myself rarely using that feature but still it's cool to show off to your friends.. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] bond32:
Who switched from verizon unlimited data, either with the note 2 or the s3? My nexus 4 is on its way and I'll be giving it a trial to see if it will work for me. Main reason for my motivation to switch is costs. I love the note 2 but on verizon its just too expensive when compared to being out of contract with a nexus.

I had the galaxy nexus a while back and while it's battery life was indeed terrible, it wasn't an issue for me personally because I'm almost always near a charger. My main concern is really data speeds on the $70 unlimited plan, tethering, the screen compared to the note 2, and and maybe the glass back (only because I always use a case of some forms and for the first time I want to go case less).
[Nexus 4 General] ashkan_mc:
This phone is phenomenal ... I love it badly
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
This my preview review on this device.

Prior to using nexus 7 and nexus s.

Pro:

This device feel like premium and even so I felt like galaxy s3 never own the third. But use from sister and mom it wasn't as snappy and intuitive as this.

Nexus 4 graphic beat any android phones expect droid DNA which the same. But with sense ui that phone won't be as smooth as usable as ours. Without rooting.

Nexus 4 resolution is great is up to par with iPhone 5 retina screen. It some cases is even better depending on quality of movie or content.

Nexus 4 PPI look better then phone even droid DNA 440 PPI and HTC resound 335 PPI doesn't look as great as our screen. Why put out high pixes density display and not use it?

Nexus 4 battery life is decent with 10 hours day 1. Day 2 8 hours and so far today is acceptable do to sharing my mobile hotspot.

Nexus 4 2 GB of ram comes in hand. For gaming.

Nexus 4 have good camera not best or great.

My droid RAZR take better in low light and same can be said on droid 3.

Nexus 4 have good picture on daylight time and some store I went .

Nexus 4 user interface is top of fine. Smoother then most if not then all android phones and tablet too at moment.

Nexus 4 have feature like widget on lockscreen,photosphere,reset app reference,daydream,swype keyboard from Google and magnifying glass where u can zoom with three tap.

Nexus 4 u can wireless mat charging device like on iPhone and blackberry. Small android phone back in the days.

Nexus 4 have great or even best 4.7 inches device.

Adobe flash only work with Firefox browser with plugin on and with desktop mode non rooted devices.

Con:

Are in my opinion is the internal storage even @ 16 GB is pretty low for movies and high graphic game.

Lack of micro HDMI also.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
You can almost double your battery life if you disable Google Now. I find it to only be useful during vacations and such. My Nexus 4 had superb battery life with Google Now disabled and Franco kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
I find it too low n back speakers bad location, I like iphone4 speaker location at bottom
[Nexus 4 General] widu13:
Being an old fella I've had dozens of phones. The N4 is the loudest yet.
[Nexus 4 General] zakoo2:
it may be the loudest (although the defy comes in very close behind), but the quality is bad. the defy had much better mid/low range sounds. but i don't care, is loud enough so that I can hear the ringtone, and for listening to music i either use headphones or Bluetooth speaker.

and i just compared my N4 screen to the N7, and the N7 is

significantly yellower

. maybe i got lucky and got a good display, or just the Rev 11 screen is that much better than in Rev 10, but if not, then i don't get why everyone is complaining about the quality of the screen. it's one of the best screens i have ever seen.

sent from my Nexus 4...
[Nexus 4 General] widu13:
Ha Ha. I can't tell the difference in mid/low range sounds in a pair of expensive headphones compared to ones I buy in the supermarket. I really don't care. On the whinge front though, I don't see the N4 performing much differently to my SG2 and the loss of external SD card is just quite simply madness.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
Nobody forced you at gunpoint to buy a phone without an SD card slot :silly: (well, maybe they did, but that would be a pretty odd crime?!)

Having said that, if the N4 is as slick as my partner's GS2 running vsync-patched CM10.1 + Siyah kernel, I'll be pretty impressed. It's way more fluid than my HOX was running CM10.1, and maybe even a little bit more lag-free than my N7 running Codefire... The wonders of a low res screen + an excess of graphics processing hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] add119:
If you think that loudest then droid bionic was loudest compare to defy and this nexus 4. Droid RAZR was second loudest phone and this phone is third of any phone I had.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
My Motorola Atrix is by far the loudest phone I own (funnily enough the loudest before that was probably my Motorola A1000 way back in 2004), and the call quality is fantastic too (unlike my One X.) Shame Moto as a company are a crock of sh*t. Lying scumbags, I'm totally boycotting them, even if the next Nexus is a Motorola.
[Nexus 4 General] :
AW: [DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

Compared to my sgs2 it's flying, I ****ing love it.

From now on I will just buy nexus phones..

Don't need all those company's with a ****ed up framework

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] Jsparta26:
(A stranger puts a gun to your head)

Stranger: If you don't buy that damn nexus 4, I'll blow your head off!

Android user: God please no!! It doesn't have a sdcard slot or lte!

Stranger: I don't care! Buy it now or die!

(Android user sobbing)

Android user: ok I'll do it. (He didn't have to put a gun to my head though)
[Nexus 4 General] widu13:
? I said it was madness that Google had omitted it, not that I didn't want the phone because of it! Incidentally I was a big M$ mobile fan before HTC went with excluding the SD card and at that point I did vote with my feet. It just seems strange that such a basic and cheap solution is purposely omitted.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
A couple of pence saved on every build mounts up to a lot of money pretty quickly at the rate consumer electronics are built and I'm assuming margins are beyond tight on Nexus devices considering what they sell them for. It's annoying, I agree, plus I think Google have it in their minds that the internal/external SD situation creates real confusion for consumers and will potentially lose them customers? I dunno. Seems insane, but not a deal breaker by any means for me - I'm not a massive data hoarder (well, I am but that's what 2TB hard drives in a desktop/NAS are for.) In fact, I ordered an 8GB N4... Which may be a bit silly since it doesn't support OTG, but I guess I've always got WiFi+SMB/FTP. Mind you, my original iPhone, bought in 2007, had 8GB of storage, a non-removeable battery and no expandable storage. Haven't we progressed?!

:cowboy::silly::laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] thedauntlessone:
Because Google is a business and they are trying to push people to use Cloud? With my music on the cloud, I have no reason to have more than 16GB. I can even stream movies and tv shows.
[Nexus 4 General] sk8oldschool74:
I disagree... Although I do have the n4 on the way but in my opinion I like the headphone jack on the bottom... :p:p:p

"purity, AK & CR88 walls enough said"
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
Cloud sucks and will continue to suck until we have at least a constant unlimited WiFi/data connection of at least 10mps WHEREVER we go. It's a start but it's not reliable at all

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[Nexus 4 General] younussm:
I second that !
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Pretty much this. The fact the optimus g has fm radio but a single connection was deliberately left unsoldered on our nexus 4's to prevent fm ever working is further proof. Can't have people listening to those free fm radio broadcasts now can we?
[Nexus 4 General] K0v4L:
Cloud sucks, sucks battery.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
Headphone jack on the bottom is way better. It means that when I reach into my pocket and pull out my phone it comes out oriented the right way. With the headphone jack on the top I have to turn the phone over every time. It's annoying. Maybe you wear trousers five sizes too big and there's plenty of room in there for you to turn your phone around but that's not true for everyone.

Exactly. It is such a mystery to me why people don't get this. 1080p screens and cloud storage destroy your battery, and for some reason there is so little outrage about this compared to other things that hardly matter.
[Nexus 4 General] kwiggington:
I had the n4 and the note 2 i love both phones the note for its size the pen but i think i might keep the n4 no tmo bloat aosp updates quick and hotspot not locked down
[Nexus 4 General] budbear1:
Google has already said the reason for no SD card on the Nexus line is so they can have all apps and data on one logical storage unit (8GB and 16GB in the case of the N4). Otherwise you end up with a situation where you can only have X GB for apps and Y GB for data, They wanted the storage to be flexible for both apps and data. Having said that I still think they should have made it 16GB/32GB in this age of cheap storage.

I'm enjoying my Nexus 4 very much. It's a nice little machine. For the Google price of $300/$350, it's a great deal. Nothing is perfect and they won't please everyone all of the time. I could have gotten any phone but I chose the N4 given all of the tradeoffs.
[Nexus 4 General] norazi:
very happy with my N4 (the flaws dont matter when you consider the price)... but im already getting lured by the sexy new 5" phablets. my next phone will probably be a sony xperia z or the lg optimus g pro unless we see a nexus 5 announcement soon

- 1080p 5" screen at 400+ ppi

- quad core krait/a15

- 2gb ram

- SD card slot

- mini HDMI/OTG USB

- much larger battery

- waterproof (on the sony)

- improved BSI camera

thats pretty much a perfect device for me as long as there is decent dev support
[Nexus 4 General] razball:
Xphone
[Nexus 4 General] iggy111:
Just gave my other half my iphone 4 and my Nexus 4 has been shipped.

Can't wait for this beauty.

Android- I am back :)
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
The problem with the much bigger battery is that its going to last the same five hours you're used to because then screen is 1080p, which human eyes can't perceive at that size but still eats up your juice.
[Nexus 4 General] K0v4L:
Please, no 5" screens in nexus 5, someone have to stop this madness.
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
Of course they can, don't buy into apples bull**** propaganda lol

You can no longer notice the individual pixels at a lower resolution at phone/phablet size but do you think that that is all that contributes to screen quality? One space of individual pixel holding 3 pixels all showing a different shade of colour will produce a perfectly contrasted and accurate colour at the right level of richness and saturation and the picture will be unbeatably crisp, why do you think that while 1080p resolution is enough to not be able to see pixels at a standard TV watching distance on 40in TVs, you can now get 4k res and studios can now get 8k or possibly already 12k screens for editing suite monitors? Apple would have you believe that retina is the be all and end all and that they make the best screen to stop you buying phones with competing resolution, but these popular beliefs, while founded on an uneducated (on the subject) logic, it is not true.

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[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
I don't know how Apple got into this, I have no idea what you're talking about there. What I do know is that there's this thing called science, and far from just chewing gum and writing walls of text about it, there are people out there who actually measure these things and no, you can't perceive it. The marketing departments of these mobile companies are about as sophisticated as a frat party and its as simple as "more number is better" to them and they go sell this seemingly valid idea to the public and the result is 1080p phones when what consumers have been measured actually to want is a 720p phone that lasts a week on a charge. But more number is an easier sell so here we are.
[Nexus 4 General] norazi:
early tests of the optimus g pro already say it has MUCH improved battery life over the optimus g (basically same thing as the nexus 4)

i probably cannot perceive 1080p on a 5" screen (400+ ppi) but i can definately see the pixels on my nexus 4 (320ppi at 4.7") so i want something higher. just because your eyes cannot perceive pixels at 320ppi doesnt mean others cant.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
I was talking about science. You're seeing artifacts from compression or bad artwork that isn't drawn at the screen's resolution. Or single pixels standing out in high contrast backgrounds. That in no way contradicts the science that human eyes have an upper limit. And even if certain people can see pixels at the 320ppi upper limit of human eyesight, which is certainly possible, that further proves my point that there's no point raising that density - dramatic pause - at the expense of battery life. Whether you deny the existence of science or not surely you aren't saying that providing more invisible, or in your rare case, completely visible and jagged squares is a good idea when phones don't even get seven hours of screen time with all the antennas on as it is? The law of diminishing returns is so simple, and its the whole point. I could care less what you in particular can see, maybe you'll get a beautiful medal one day for having superhuman eyesight. All I said is the basic fact that humans can't resolve pixels at 1080p on phone sized screens, this has been proven by science and that its stupid to raise screen resolutions instead of spend money on batteries.
[Nexus 4 General] cce10:
Wanted one of these for ages but the no SD card is really holding me back at the moment.
[Nexus 4 General] azrash:
I was using a phone with an SD card before this. For my user case, the cloud services have been good enough. I use play music now.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
The science has certain reservations though. DisplayMate made the point when the first retina came out that the human eye is physically capable of processing more than the retinas resolution/PPI but that would mean greater than 20/20 vision, to the point of superlative perfection.

At 20/20 vision (which most people don't even have) one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a 5" 720p and a 5" 1080p at more than 6". 20/20 vision could distinguish minor difference at closer than 6" but I call that pixel-peeping and blatantly silly.

I agree 1080p on a phone is silly. Phones arguably don't even make good use of 720p yet.
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
Just because you can't see the individual pixels you think that you can't perceive a better quality from the screen?

Simply not correct.

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[Nexus 4 General] Jammol:
'Who has the bigger Jalopi?' That's what the whole damn thing is about and has always been about. Cars, computers and now cellphones. It's not a consumer thing(in my opinion), it's just to show who can show they got the biggest wanker. We just benefit in the end because the super awesome phones become super cheap because the next talliwalker struts his stuff!!!:good: