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[Nexus 4 General] kpjimmy:
Xperia 1->Nexus One->HTC Sensation->Nexus 4

Experienced roms with my Sony Ericsson Xperia 1. Nice phone but HEAVY windows based OS. First and last smart phone my wife will buy me lol. The X1 was my first experience in flashing roms, where in the past, I was heavy into Sony Erisson phones. But the only modifications one could do is to flash unbranded software using services like Davinci and an usb phone cable. lol

I then jumped the boat because I loved the aspect and idea of Googlephone/Googleverse in the Nexus One. I could get push emails (I had to convert from ymail which I do not regret lol), and view pics that I had uploaded to picasa and etc....

Fast forward to June of 2011 when the HTC Sensation was announced. The Senny is a sweet phone, which had Sense UI (meh) which I quickly flashed off the phone to custom roms. The Senny is a great phone. I currently have Bruce's JB Kang on it and it is still running strong. I put in a 64gb card in it and haven't looked back.....until the Nexus 4 lol.

This baby is just so sexy! I know I should wait for the white N4, but I couldn't pass up the wireless charging! I know coming from 64gb to 16gb is a HUGE step down, but to me, it's like going on a budget. But this budget is for space. I no longer use my phones for movies and games. I have since also gotten the Nexus 7 at release and that has been my go to gaming android platform and movies...until Ouya is released.

Coming from a HTC Sensation to a N4. Is it that much of a difference? It is noticable and the price point cannot be beat. With NFC and wireless charging and BT 4.0, I couldn't say no. I am glad I have light notifications back with lightflow, but given up the charging led. I can manage :)
[Nexus 4 General] nikiva101:
Google Nexus vs HTC Evo LTE

I have the LTE and recently been thinking about the nexus....I have a family member that is eligible for an upgrade and I want to give them the evo and then I can get the nexus!! any thoughts?
[Nexus 4 General] robstunner:
The only thing better about the lumia camera is better night time photos. Daytime is a disappointment IMHO.
[Nexus 4 General] donavo:
nexus 4 vs oppo finder

just got my nexus. i am VERY happy with it. reading other peoples thoughts, some of them got their phones with problems. mine came flawless. im very pleased. amazing performance and built quality. now ill start the comparison.

the nexus 4 feels and looks great in the hand. has a very good built quality and is quite satisfying to hold. but i will still have to give this to the oppo finder. being the worlds thinnest phone, amazing shape and just classy as hell, the oppo finder is by far the most elegant looking phone in the world. its also very very tough. you can use it as a hammer and it wont even scratch. crazy amazing built quality on the oppo finder. and the thickness is just amazing.

when it comes to software, the oppo finder has its own version/skin of android. it looks and performs pretty dam good. very creative options in their software and the phone in general feels like its rooted. it supports english. it has some hickups that i couldnt get over though. like every time u get a txt, it will pop up in front of everything and notify u. with no way to turn it off...unless u root it probably. software is great though. but of course not as good as the nexus at all. its very unique and alot better than touchwiz or sense but id still prefer stock android.

hardware, the nexus is far better. oppo only has 1gb ram and dual core 1.5ghz cpu. which is fantastic and plenty for the phone, but not as good as nexus.

im still torn between the 2 phones actually. the nexus is much better but i am very VERY attracted to that thin profile on the oppo. the phone is extremely elegant.

but im obviously gonna go with the nexus. and my oppo is just sitting there in case i want to switch back and forth. no plans for it.
[Nexus 4 General] usaff22:
Does anyone recommend changing to a Nexus 4 from the One S? Whilst I enjoy the sheer amount of custom ROMs, NFC, Nexus updates and Wireless Charging, I will not sacrifice build quality.
[Nexus 4 General] Stanerefor:
The Nexus 4 is the first Android phone running version 4.2, and it is the pure “Google Experience”, meaning it's the version of Android that has been designed from the ground up the way Google thinks it should work. Since this is a Nexus phone, it will get the next version of Android days after it is announced.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
if you can do it with a minimal "loss", I would. Source: Wife has one s.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Get it. N5 won't be out till at least November. Unless you want to wait for that elusive Motorola X and see what it offers.
[Nexus 4 General] mattj7:
I think the Note 2 has some serious advantages, battery life, and SD card slot mainly. The screen on the Note 2 is more saturated, but not as bright, although messing with the color settings on the nexus 4 makes it look much better. The Nexus 4 is certainly designed better, however, and the Note 2 is more expensive and much bigger, to the point where some people might find it impractical.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
And what about the snapdragon processor upgrade? I mean, speed isnt everything but if it offers a breakthrough, then...
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
In mobile space currently no matter what you buy will always be outdated in 4-5 months. If you wait for the next big thing, you'll always wait and will never buy.

If you require N4, buy it.
[Nexus 4 General] jusada:
Right, coming from a gnex myself and owning an s3 here is my advice. I used my gnex over the s3 as even though it had half the power (with the exception of the ram) the gnex is faster. This could be down to 4.2.2 or the Samsung bloat ware. But in daily use the gnex was just snappyer. I see no reason to doubt the same will be true of the n4 and s4. Also the s4 only runs at Max 400ghz faster per core, its not mind blowingly faster, also consider the extra processing power needed to run a screen twice the resolution! A screen you won't even notice at 5inches. Now combine that with the fact its twice the price of the n4 and your kind of left with an obvious answer, the only reason for me to pass up on a gnex would be the amount of glass. But I've had a iPhone 4s so I was used to being gentle with my phone. Its your choice but you can't worry about other phone getting better, the nexus 4 runs everything and runs it fast.
[Nexus 4 General] Elvecio:
But the Nexus has a better feel and it's better to use in ordinary situations, because it isn't so big as the Note.

I have the Note 2 here and i love it, battery is so powerful, but i bought a Nexus 4 yesterday for some days of test. If the Nexus will be good, i will think to sell the Note.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
I'm using a ~320 PPI iPhone 5 at the moment and can't wait to go back to my 267 PPI Note 2.
[Nexus 4 General] naveen94:
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[Nexus 4 General] slybunda:
i dont understand why the nexus 4 is so much slower than the galaxy s3.

iv reas the new s4 vs htc one review on gsm arena, and dont understand how the quad core krait cpu in the nexus 4 which should be on par with atleast the other cpus running krait cores in quad configuration.

what seems to be up with the nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Are you serious? Have you actually used both devices? My wife's S3 has been on stock and custom, with both N4 is noticeably quicker.
[Nexus 4 General] slybunda:
no i have not used the nexus 4, howver i got the benchmark info from here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p6.php

cant believe how bad the nexus 4 battery life is too compared to all the other phones. shocking how slow the nexus 4 is in those benches.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
We'll, that's coming from someone who used both in real life. N4 is quicker and has better battery life than S3. Why people pay so much attention to the benches is beyond comprehension. They are okay as a starting point when comparing devices but no way it is definitive.
[Nexus 4 General] slybunda:
how is your battery life compared to the galaxy s3?

as in how much screen on time do you get playing youtube videos etc?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Just look through general section, there are loads threads with comparison between phones and battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] slybunda:
will do, although lack of a sd card slot is whats mainly putting me off.
[Nexus 4 General] viktorlj:
Then stop trolling and buy S3 or S4.
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
benchmarks are stupid.

I also don't understand why the nexus4 is so much worse in benchs than in reallife usage.

but srsly, nothing is as fast as the n4 right now, even if benchs say the opposite.

Trusting benchmarks so much is foolish.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Well, I get 21.5k in antutu on stock kernel with UV and rbj.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I don't intend to purchase any Samsung device...their quality control problems are beyond repair if you get a screwed up set...at times.

But thanks for the insight. I can give some weightage to the fact that the nexus is faster than branded versions, cause a colleague bought the Note and S3, and always wondered why my phone never slowed down.

He now has the Note 2 but I hide my phone from him cause he leaves a swathe of grease marks and fingerprints on my screen...

Basically, I know tech keeps changing (Moore's law) and was wondering if I should wait for the next Nexus (or something that's very, very drool worthy of switching me from the Nexus) or not.

Thanks for your comments, and thanks in anticipation of the responses. :)

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And one more thing: if I do get the nexus, it may not be before summers arrive cause I'll get it from the US for a cheaper price.

Now, with this piece of the puzzle, do you think its still worth it, or should I wait for a few more months (assuming we're in June or July) and see what the next Nexus is all about?
[Nexus 4 General] jusada:
Part of the problems with benchmark apps is chrome on stock ROMs, also I here that a lot aren't optimised for the nexus. I wouldn't read into them. Look at youtube for comparison videos, you'll find the nexus is far quicker.
[Nexus 4 General] baraks:
personally i think that a Nexus device will always be better even if it doesnt have top notch HW

i mean in terms of speed user customisations and updates....

but that just my opinion.....
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
Thinking about selling my note 2 for a nexus 4. I flashed cm10.1 the other day and I just miss the pure beauty of stock Android. Samsung has ruined it.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Split screen is marvelous. There is a lot of crap in there too though

Sent from the mighty Note II.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
Grass is greener.

I went from the Nexus 4 to the Note 2 and I wouldn't go back. The multimedia and entertainment experience (and productivity for that matter) on the Note 2 is just too good.

Movies, music, gaming and web browsing are all much more enjoyable on the Note 2 IMO. I don't get why people would settle for the Nexus 4 if they have and are willing to spend the money for the Note 2.
[Nexus 4 General] gazoo2010:
I also just sold my Note 2 for the Nexus 4. Although the multimedia was awesome on the Note 2 I did not find myself using the S-Pen as much as I thought I would. The Note 2 was great but the smaller size of the N4 was a bonus. Besides for what I sold it for I could buy both a N4 and a N7.....

Bring on Key Lime Pie !!!!!

~S
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
That's actually why I stick to the Note 2 as my one-and-only portable device. It covers my needs of a tablet, phone and multimedia device in one.

For people who find the size uncomfortable especially as a phone, I think the Nexus 4 + Nexus 10 (or 7) is a great combo especially since they can still cost less than the silly amount a Note 2 costs.

I just didn't want to deal with multiple devices; convergence was the name of the game for me. I sold my iPad and Nexus 4 to go to the Note 2. Now that I have a 64GB microSDXC in my Note 2 for 80GB of total storage, I don't imagine ever needing to move on to anything really (maybe the Note 4 whenever that rolls around).

Lifestyle also matters. I used to have a long commute by train where the iPad and my Galaxy Nexus worked great together (would watch movies on the iPad while seated comfortably), and I could easily see myself with a Nexus 4 + Nexus 10 at that point. Now that I'm in NYC and I have to deal with a cramped subway and crowded streets most of the time, the Note 2 makes the most sense.
[Nexus 4 General] gazoo2010:
That was the original reason I bought the Note 2, I did not want to carry two devices. I also commute to the city by train and really like the larger screen of the N7. It definitely comes down to how you use the device.

~S
[Nexus 4 General] ixon2001:
I moved from a Galaxy S3 to a Nexus 4 recently i couldn't be happier.

There are a few things i miss from the S3, like the camera & video which are better than the Nexus 4, but other than that not much else.

One of my main reason for switching was it had problems with dust getting trapped around the edges, plenty other people suffred this to mainly pebble blue, this really did my head in & effected it resale value when i sold it.

Another problem it had was with 32gb micro SD card's for some reason they hated Sandisk class 10 cards, it would constantly unmount, yet my 16gb one worked perfectly fine, again i wasn't the only one suffering from this problem.

The 32gb Sandisk is working perfectly in my laptop though.

I find the Nexus 4 a breath of fresh air, build quality on mine at least is superb &

specs wise are good to , plus I get the latest android OS months before the likes of Sammy ect get it on the S3 & S4 ect.

Low benchmark score mean naff all to me it works just as good if not better than the S3 did running android, as it isn't bloated with alot of useless software that i never used.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Finally bit the bullet and sold my Galaxy S3 to a friend on Tuesday.

Ordered the Nexus 4 on Wednesday, and low and behold it is already here. Just have to head over to my pad at lunch and grab it.

I have to say, I LOVED my S3. No Doubt about it. It was hands down the best smart phone I've ever owned.

Despite my reluctance to let it go, in the end I am a pure Android fan. Flashing CM10.1 or another ASOP ROM was not enough.. I want the real deal.

Can't wait to go grab that sucker and get it set up. Bought the official bumper too.

Now the only dilemma is do I keep it stock or root it and get LTE going on that bad boy.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
It seems the upcoming LG Optimus G2 will be a power house with the Qualcomm 800 cpu and Adreno 330 gpu..

Scource http://news.softpedia.com/news/LG-O...with-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-800-CPU-341525.shtml.
[Nexus 4 General] bbgt2:
Felt the same way you did, gave my S3 to the wife and haven't regretted it one bit. Love the Nexus, feels like a real phone in my hand. Performance wise it flies compared to the S3. Running AOKP and loving it. You gotta get the Qi charger its great, also the bumper makes phone buttons work better then without. Only thing I do miss ius LTE in AT&T, and that's it.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Spoke too soon. Horrible banding and the right side of the screen is darker than the rest. Didn't notice until I pulled off the factory screen film and turned up the brightness. Weirdest thing ever, when the sun hits the screen I can see this odd looking circuit board pattern in the glass and tiny sparkling dots. RMA here I come
[Nexus 4 General] bbgt2:
Ouch, that blows.
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
Those sparkling dots are normal it's because of the in cell display or whatever it's called.
[Nexus 4 General] tnygigles66:
HTC HD7 has the same style display and they are there as well.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Well the banding and dark right side aren't normal. And these rectangular circuit grid things are very pronounced. But I guess I could live with that if the screen was good.
[Nexus 4 General] jgalan14:
The only thing I wish the phone had was better pictures and video recording, I can't believe the pictures on the iPhone 4s I have look better, specially panorama is much better, you can actually see detail, video on the iPhone 4S is pleasant as well stabilization is better and audio way much better, I was in a convention this weekend and I forgot my iPhone ( is for work purposes) and man I can't show the video to people I took with the n4 cause ir sounds really bad, same for the note 2 and gs3 they got better audio but the iPhone still better in the department, other then that I love the phone, I think manufactures are going crazy (Samsung) HTC did good with their size but the stupid button layout kills it, I'm waiting for an amazing camera on android and I guess the HTC is the only one the compares so far (as far as audio goes), I hope Google works on that on the next software, I notice android files are way smaller so I'm guessing some coding needs to get done...

Anyways if you don't find less then stellar camera a problem you'll be happy with this phone, great screen (specially rooted and colors changed) and really good value, and I love the desing
[Nexus 4 General] jgalan14:
It varies you want a big screen to watch Netflix and YouTube then get note 2,you want extra software and better camera note 2, you want a phone that is easier for one hand use nexus 4,always Google latest updates nexus 4, keep in mind the note 2 might not have all the nexus 4 updates from Google but it has a lot good features, at my work dealing with a big phone becomes annoying after a while so I sold my note 2 and got a nexus 4 also, ñbetter battery life note 2
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
After seeing the latest stuff about the Droid DNA being retired/missing, I'm glad I did not wait for a HTC Nexus to jump on the Nexus line.
[Nexus 4 General] ian577416:
That pattern is the touch screen digitizer. Relax.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] nk7600:
If that's true?. Be prepared for no timely updates lol. That's the problem with LG, they can deliver good hardware but generally... there software updates or should I say there are none!. After having a LG Optimus 2x for over 2 years & still on Gingerbread (yes, ICS is available in some countries but not in my updater). The only LG device I would EVER buy again would be a LG Nexus fone.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Bro don't act like you know me or what type of screens I'm familiar with. It's faulty with easily viewable defects. I've seen this issue before on many phones including my old my touch 4G. It's a bad screen. Yes I get the cheap digitizer pattern thing
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Defensive much? Whatever is with the other things about the screen, digitiser is not gonna change with rma. Had you been familiar with that, you wouldn't say "weirdest thing" about it. The other bits, well, he didn't mean them.
[Nexus 4 General] ian577416:
Lulzlulzlulz go ahead and RMA, you'll get the same pattern on your new one and the one after that and so on and so on. It's not a defect, though if you're so unhappy perhaps an iPhone or something more simple would suit your tastes. This book may be for you.....bro.
[Nexus 4 General] pawan1993:
My first Nexus phone and really couldn't be happier. Just couldn't stand the fact that other companies hold back on the updates for their terrible UI's. Against any other phone, the Nexus wins it for me just because of the consistent updates.
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
anyone else getting the galaxy s4 as well as keeping the nexus 4 or is it just me? I always dreamed of full hd 5'' screen so I guess s4 would be the perfect choice reason for keeping my nexus is don't want to miss latest update (key lime pie) :D
[Nexus 4 General] ki2luminati:
Sv: [DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

Hey guys. Just a quick tip if youre Havning battery problems out there. If you do then hurry up and flash the latest Franco kernel. See Thisted battery life, with normal usage and screen om auto brightness.!
[Nexus 4 General] djnewt:
Totally agree..Franco's 116 Kernel has been great for battery life..Nearly 24hrs moderate use........4 Antutu benchmarks, casual txt, whatsapp internet..10mins on temple run 2 to test the fps (60) and still got 50% battery life...Im very happy..Well done to Franco's hard work.
[Nexus 4 General] Sherrillface:
Who wants to trade my n4 for the note 2
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Yeah I thought he was talking about the entire scenario, not just the digitizer.

Regardless, previous similar digitizers did not exhibit such a noticeable pattern in the glass, evidently the way they fused the digitizer in this case produced a more prominent pattern in the glass.

However the main issue, which is why I am RMA'ing this beast, is due to the horrible banding and a 1/4" of the left side of the screen is much darker than the rest. Also noticed that 1/4" side is extremely yellow when displaying whites. Bottom line is the screen is not uniform in color at all, and compared to my coworker's Nexus 4 its looks like crap.
[Nexus 4 General] jusada:
The trouble with the nexus 4 is problems show up so much more. When only a few are sold compared to say the s3, if sell 100 devices and 5 have issues it really shows but if your selling 1000 and 50 have issues it kind of goes under the radar! Add to that the fact its aimed at developers who are generally on xda your going to hear about it a whole lot more.

For me its a great device, no issues what so ever, but I myself was concerned too when buying one. I've been pleasantly surprised. If you do have problems my advice is get it replaced, don't give up on it! Yes I know for some the glass back is an issue but if you have ever owed an iPhone 4s you will be used to being careful with your phone.
[Nexus 4 General] The.Penguin:
Today I compared my n4 to my girlfriend's iphone 5. I mean I really played around with the thing. I found that the iPhone 5 and the nexus are smooth as balls. They are both great phones, of course I'm lost in the iOS but that's just me. One thing that I really liked about the iPhone is the little feature that it had with watching videos. When you rotate the screen it automatically switches to full screen. That's pretty Damn cool. Honestly that's what stood out the most to me. Other than that it seems like many features are included I both phones. Love the n4 screen more than the iPhone 5.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
The problem is the Nexus used to be a dev phone for tinckering, modifying and flashing custom software. But because of the low pricing and good specs more and more inexperienced users (not saying Noobs :D ) buy it and they often don`t know how to get it working right. Just look at the number of Toolkits around.
[Nexus 4 General] friend'scatdied:
That doesn't really make sense.

If products A and B have the same failure/defect rate and product A is much more popular, product A should have a greater volume of complaints.

In fact in your latter example multiple people having defects should have a kind of negative reinforcement (e.g. "I have a lousy screen too! It must be a defect").

There are some possibilities here: you aren't really looking for complaints for product A (e.g. the "I-only-browse-forums-for-the-phone-I-have" syndrome), or product B truly has a higher failure/defect rate, and/or product B has more noticeable/deal-breaking defects.
[Nexus 4 General] jusada:
If you continue to read my point is also how you will also hear about it more because of the type of phone it is! Do you think everyone who owns an s3 will post on forums? Most people don't, they just go to the vendor and get a replacement. I know several people that have had issues with the s3. One friend is now on his 4th one because of screen issues. Its the nature of the nexus 4 that most people who have them, and of course not all. But most will be a member of a forum. The majority of people who see my phone have no idea what it is! In fact no one has ever said to me "is that the nexus 4?" Even the guy I got my case from asked me to have a look as he hasn't seen one.