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[Nexus 4 General] Web-head:
You're missing my point.

I understand that you want to get people's opinions on how they feel about their screen. What I'm saying is that the last choice undermines the intent of the poll.

There is no reasonable answer but the last choice. If there is no reasonable answer but the last choice, then the poll, if not pointless, then it has issues with its design.

I calibrate displays myself. I spend a great deal of time on display forums and trying to keep abreast on display technologies and calibration. I've had many conversations with a THX instructor and he would be the first to tell you that no display comes calibrated, and by calibrated I mean adhering to rec 709, out of the box. Does not happen. Some are closer than others, but they do not prep each individual model to be perfect, or more accurately, reference. Again, I'm not stating this to say that you are whining or that you shouldn't have any issue with the Nexus 4 not being calibrated better, it's just a statement of fact.

That being a fact, for not just the Nexus 4, but every display period, from the GS3, to the Note 2, to the One X, to the $25k Sony 4k 84" TV, they all need to be calibrated. And since they do, what possible other answer could you choose but the last one? That was my only point.

Other people made other choices, because they are not aware of what I am saying, or they didn't read the choices fully and stopped at the one they had a reaction to, or many other reasons. The bottom line is I know what I'm saying to be true, and I read all choices, so the poll is, sorry to use this word again, pointless because I know that only one answer makes any sense.

It's like if I made a poll about The United States and had choices like:

The US is perfect

The US is the worst place in the universe to live

The US could use some improvements

Do I even have to tell you which is the only choice that makes any sense? Would you think that you could glean any useful info from such a poll?

That's what I'm saying about your poll. Just your poll. Not your points. Your points are fine. I just think that the poll will only yield useless data if everyone picks the only sensible choice, and will likewise yield useless data if people choose insensible choices.

No disrespect. Just offering an opinion about the design of the poll.
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
£280 phone compared to £500..........

Dunno why people complain bout this stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
There is a scientific correct calibration. And pioneer elite plasma's were the epitome of monitors/TVs. The latest and greatest Panasonic and Samsung plasmas are pretty good. The higher wattage on these plasma's are their biggest downside. Eager to see what a calibrated oled TV looks like but as of now, oled performs like 1st generation plasmas. Easy to get retention. And the nature of smart phones makes it easy to get burn in because of the many static images.

I voided my warranty.

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For the cheap price do you really think they should've calibrated the screen? That could've added another $50 to the price.

I voided my warranty.
[Nexus 4 General] romeoliny:
In regards to the TV info you posted touché. Right on point. In regards to the point about feeling that for this cheap price Google shouldn't have calibrated the screen I am not understanding. The retail price never played rolls on the Nexus S, or Galaxy Nexus and their bad gamma/color representation as they were both very expensive.

I think that rules out your $50 additional theory and for what its worth although not warranted in a true debate I would have paid the extra $50 in your scenario to get the properly calibrated screen.

Google makes tons of money. They need to invest in spending the time and effort in getting their displays calibrated properly. Other companies do it. We are the consumer and deserve no less. I couldn't disagree more with you in this matter. Just my 2 cents.

Rome
[Nexus 4 General] romeoliny:
You're right I did misunderstand what you were trying to convey. I think the key word was "properly", as in it wasn't done right the first time. I can't believe I'm still talking about a poll Lol. Anyways I'm not offended or anything. It could have been worded differently, I suppose.

Thanks,

Rome
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Look, if you're buying a phone you're expecting to get what the maker promised you. In this case that would be a "cutting edge" screen with exceptional clarity. And mainly, no faults. The worst part is that these are manufacturing defects since everyone's got a different issue.

Besides, for many people even that price isn't cheap.
[Nexus 4 General] NienorGT:
What puzzle me about this screen (and the Optimus G by extend) is how reviewers are split in half on the quality.

Some goes far enoigh to say it's one of best display out there second to only the One X's SLCD2 (that was before the HTC DNA's SLCD3).

Other reviewers claim the screen sucks because colors are all washed out (ie: low contrast or saturation).

I wonder if there's more than one screen panel used in this phone. I doubt it as LG is a panel maker themselves (and the biggest in the world actually) but still...

The phone cost more than this, Google subdivide it on Google Play but it is sold the same price as any other phones elsewhere.

Your saying is like if you think that Google Play customers merit a lower quality phone than other customers from wireless carriers for the same phone...
[Nexus 4 General] ref1ux:
The phone is great, but the screen's viewing angles are terrible. From the left I get a nasty yellow-brown tint and from the right it goes blue.

Seriously disappointed coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has excellent viewing angles. I know the screen tech is totally different, but other IPS screens (e.g. One X, Nexus 7) do not perform as badly as my Nexus 4's does.
[Nexus 4 General] Web-head:
Never experienced anything like this. Not saying that you are making it up, just conveying my personal experience.

From extreme angles, my display doesn't discolor at all. I'd go so far as to say that it has great viewing angles for an LCD. The display dims some at extreme angles, which is inherent of all LCD tech, but I see no discernible color change.

I'd go even further and say that it retains its shade of black extremely well from off angle too.
[Nexus 4 General] ErikWithNoC:
I'm starting to wonder if I just lucked out or something. The screen on my Nexus 4 is fantastic. I don't have any yellow tinting issues or bad viewing angles and it performs amazing outdoors.

I actually prefer it over the SLCD2 on my HTC One X. The whites are much whiter and the blacks are blacker on the Nexus 4 when compared to the One X. Some of the colors aren't quite as vibrant as they are on the SLCD2, but I still prefer the Nexus screen because of the whites/blacks.
[Nexus 4 General] SsP45:
I find that my Nexus 4 screen is quite washed out, while my co-workers is extremely vivid. I'd post a photo comparing the two, but I don't have enough posts here to do that yet.
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
Are you both on the same software version
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
What you need is porn in 4k. You'll then be able to figure out which screen is sharper and which screen has better colour saturation. Also you must watch the screen perpendicular or else the colour of the tits may wash out on the AMOLED.
[Nexus 4 General] DirkBelig:
Very helpful comment.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
That's the thread I was looking for.

I had a Optimus 4X HD before the Nexus 4 so I know how an IPS screen can look, and the Nexus 4 is definitely washed out (to me it looks like there is some blue missing). The Nexus 4 is awesome, but the colors of the screen really suck at the moment.

Hopefully there will be a fix soon.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
https://mobile.twitter.com/faux123/status/275356155277082624

@faux123
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
Is this the guy that makes this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nexus4displaycontrol

?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
For those disputing whether or not some devices have sharp, clear screens with good color productions... there must be. My device I'm replacing has roughly 35% of a really clear sharp display. The rest is washed out and yellow hued. It looks very strange. The sharp portion though also has light bleed! Hope the one sitting on my counter un opened is better.
[Nexus 4 General] idividebyzero:
When I set the gamma on my computer to 1.4 it matches the phone pretty much exactly, both in grays and color. Gamma is supposed to be set at 2.2, that may not sound like much but its actually extreme, almost on the opposite ends of the spectrum. 1.4 is an absurd gamma to use, the brightest Ive ever seen is 1.8 which is the old Mac gamma, Apple ditched that in favor of the more standard 2.2.

Its not a matter of opinion that this display has really messed up calibration, its a fact, there is right calibration and wrong calibration because calibration is based on a standard. When people create movies and design websites they are doing it to match that standard so it looks good on a variety of displays, if they didnt then everything would have jacked up colors. Calibration is not a set of numbers, it is the end result, so different displays can have wildly different settings but still look the same after theyve been calibrated.

That high gamma is the cause of the colors being washed out, fix that and the screen should look just as good as any other and finally have accurate colors that look like the content creators intended it to look.

do the blacks stay "black" in a dark room when looking at it from the corners? The viewing is fine from the sides but go straight to hell when looking at it from the corners, just the slightest angle will kill the blacks unless I hold the phone perfectly level.
[Nexus 4 General] Zealotki11er:
If there was a ranking in what N4 needs changed the most is improve the screen. I hope someone comes up with a calibration tool. It really needs. Having GNex and comparing to N4 its just looks terrible. To use N4 is better in all brightness level since it not Pen-tile but thats it. It just does not feel new.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Are you getting it replaced because of the stated screen issues or for something else? Because the lower left portion of my screen has a faint yellowish hue as well and I'd like to see I can get it swapped. There are also some faded vertical lines on the left side.
[Nexus 4 General] Elsydeon:
Just got my Nexus 4 on Friday, started setting it up to match my old Sony Xperia S' settings, and when I loaded up the wallpaper, WHOA. No doubt about it, the Nexus 4's screen looks very much washed out. Whether or not this is correct though is another story. Because when I look at the same picture on my 30" Dell Ultrasharp U3011, the Nexus actually looks closer to what I see on the monitor, whereas the Xperia S looks way overblown. The Xperia S color saturation is admittedly more pleasing to the eye however.

Similarly I have an iPod Touch 5, and also find its screen better at color saturation than the Nexus...Apple really does seem to get their LCDs looking just right, right out of the box.
[Nexus 4 General] romeoliny:
NEWS FLASH! It appears Faux123 has issued a statement that within the next 72hrs (Possibly tonight) we will have Gamma Controls using his paid app. Check out his YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_ULyoUCXM&feature=player_embedded

Really looking forward to this! :)

Sincerely,

Rome
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
Looking at that image it looks like the Nexus is very good, the sony looks like it has a strong pink hue whereas the n4 looks more reference. You are obviously the best judge as I dont know what the original image looks like so I can only go off what I assume is an orange/yellow tinted sunset :P, it looks good to me :D.

Well atleast we can calibrate it ourselves shortly then, no more questionable colour reproduction if we can do that :). Id rather save a few bob and calibrate it myself tbh!.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
Nice, as soon as it is working, someone please post the optimal settings.

BTW: Somehow sad, that we have to use a paid app from a third party developer to adjust the screen because the responsible Google developers are all blind :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Thoughtful:
Look up iphone 5 yellow tint.
[Nexus 4 General] TheTodFather:
I don't see how you adjust the gamma. The gamma levels are the problem. It's just rgb settings, plenty of free apps that can do that. Am I missing something?
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
The gamma support for rooted devices will be available soon (at least the kernel description says this)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] romeoliny:
Gamma support is already available for faux123 kernel beta 5 and his enhancement kernel software. You set the values the way you like them. Hope this helps!
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
I have the gamma controls (using kernel 002b4), but they only seem to make colors even lighter/more washed out.
[Nexus 4 General] lookitzjohnny:
you need his latest 002b5
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
I don't need the other kernel features so I won't pay extra money for things I don't need. I'll wait for the solution for rooted devices with stock kernel.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] lookitzjohnny:
UV/under clocking your cpu/gpu for unnecessary battery drain? you dont like more hours of battery? its not really just paying for an app, its more of supporting the dev.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
Battery life is fine, it lasts the whole day for me.

And supporting the developer with the display config app is enough. It's already ****ing expensive for a small tweak.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Cusa:
Faux always saves the day.
[Nexus 4 General] khaltire:
has anyone a chance to test this out yet? what are the correct settings to calibrate the display like an iphone 5? ie PERFECT for an LCD

i dont want to modify my kernel, just want stock with a calibration setting. is this a possibility?
[Nexus 4 General] faux123:
FauxClock app now supports 100% stock rooted kernels. You don't need to flash any custom kernels to use my FauxClock app now for Gamma/Color Controls
[Nexus 4 General] khaltire:
can someone confirm that our washed out displays are indeed due to high gamma levels, and all that's required to fix it and make the display look nice is adjustment? It seems too good to be true I feel like Google would have done this themselves. Also does this app affect battery life in any way.

Lastly can someone post settings for properly calibrated display gamma 2.2
[Nexus 4 General] rosswaa:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] faux123:
Check here for some calibrated values:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2039607

The fauxclock app does not drain battery. it simply allows for color/gamma to be set. It has host of other features as well and you don't need a custom kernel to use it. it works with my custom kernel or rooted STOCK kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] tocirahl:
Yes

Tweaking with Faux's app will significantly improve the color reproduction on the display.
[Nexus 4 General] romeoliny:
I actually love my display now because of FauxClock and my favorite Dev Faux123. Thanks man and everyone following the thread waiting for this solution.

He updates the app as well. Definitely amazing work.

Also you can follow him on Twitter for updates @Faux123

His thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2008222
[Nexus 4 General] HaMaHa:
any before and after photos?
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Can you share your color settings?

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I'm also noticing a lot of color banding, for example on the Sound Search widget and that purple orb wallpaper. Colors are definitely not deep enough.
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
+10000000000000000

Love the phone,but colors are a bit wahsed out with a slight yellowish tint.What's the best setting for rich/viberant colors??

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] romeoliny:
Everyone's phone is difference then personal preference comes into play but this is my favorite setting for bold deep colors.

Again this is what looks good on my device. Mileage may vary.

Screen Color

Set On Boot - ON

Color Adjustments - R255, G255, B255

Gamma Amp Adjust 0 - R8, G8, B31

Gamma Amp Adjust 1 - R1, G0, B9
[Nexus 4 General] n82k:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoDp2qRui0u0dHhQamRhaU1RSVVtMjczeDlQbnJyUkE

This is a user spreadsheet for color settings. As an early adopter, It has come in most helpful in calibrating my display.

Sent from Nexus 4 - cm10 - faux kernel002 beta005
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
Thanks but where do I find the Gamma Amp adjust??! most apps I tried only have RGB adjustments.
[Nexus 4 General] faux123:
Look for fauxclock from Google play. It supports both my kernel and stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
Expensive but it does what it should. Now I'll play around with the app till it looks like I want it to look :)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Girn:
My gamma is all messed up and the app can't even fix it.... Sigh.. I've tried so many combinations too. I ran display tester on my gfs s3 and it was perfect gamma

I can never get grey or magenta to blend in display tester... Always shows the small bars separating each gamma bar

And forget blue. That won't go past 1.6 on my phone
[Nexus 4 General] itpromike:
Man I hope this works... The one thing I'm not looking forward to is a subpar screen and coming from an iPhone 5 in which I loved the screen immediately out of the box, I hope I can get this phone at least unnoticeably close.
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
Is there a way to use a color calibration tool (ex. Spyder Pro) to calibrate the N4?

Sorry if this has already been covered...
[Nexus 4 General] Palmadores:
Hi Rome,

Agreed. Google need to get better at this, otherwise most people will waste this great IPS screen. And it's not just photographers like yourself that matter. As I'm sure you know with a fully calibrated screen everything become glossy and smooth, and people will appriciate it, even if they don't know why. Apple get the cal a lot better out of the box. Google need to as well.

Maybe we can help? I'm going through the process of calibrating my Nexus 4 with FauxDisplay (on the Matr!x kernel). I use a good colorimeter and Chromapure calibration software. I having a few issues getting to grips with Faux's interface, but will report on progress soon.
[Nexus 4 General] mariosraptor:
left one looks superb. right one a bit yellowish and has black spots specially at the center of the screen.
[Nexus 4 General] thecapsaicinkid:
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but can you calibrate unrooted, stock Nexus devices? Namely the 4 and the 7.

If so, has anyone written a basic guide for doing so already? I'm willing to pay for the right app if so.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Trickster, faux display or clock, and Franco kernel app all can modify values. However they all require root, these kind of apps cannot modify Kernel values on an unrooted device.
[Nexus 4 General] DirkBelig:
^^ I believe that after 4.2.2 you can't adjust/calibrate the stock kernel because Google locked out all the things that FauxDisplay used to hook into. You have to use an alternate kernel. You used to be able to adjust the stock kernel with FauxDisplay, but no longer. I don't know what the other apps do. I'm using Faux's kernal now.
[Nexus 4 General] nexom:
Look for an app called Nexus 4 display control in the play store. Works great!
[Nexus 4 General] thecapsaicinkid:
I don't particularly have any desire to run a different kernel but may be inclined to root. Is any of the aforementioned apps preferable to the others and are they all paid? Are the steps to calibrate fairly self explanatory, do they give you test images to calibrate against?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] dgwphotography:
I use Nexus 4 display control - it requires root, but operates on the stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] nexus4_13:
What settings are you using on the left one?
[Nexus 4 General] mariosraptor:
no settings at all. both are stock
[Nexus 4 General] Tuliojnv:
What is the best spec out there :$ ???
[Nexus 4 General] steviewevie:
The one that looks best to you.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] lbingham:
2 Nexus with Different Colors

So, I've had two Nexus 4s. One I sent back because the battery was having trouble holding a charge. When I got the replacement, I turned them on side-by-side and did various comparisons. My first Nexus 4 (from the original launch) had much whiter whites than the new one. So much so, that I could never get over it and had to root my phone, install a custom kernel and use the Franco Display Control App. I use the preset for the gamma correction, and I have to say it's 10x better than it was, but my whites are still kind of yellow.

FWIW, I think Franco kernel and the Display Control App are worth the money to correct/tune your screen.

Good luck to you all!
[Nexus 4 General] Arafna:
What settings should i usw to get 'best white'? I use Trickster and Hells kernel.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4
[Huawei Ideos X6] Somcom3X:
Is this device worth it?(specs) what is the difference between this and the x5?
[Huawei Ideos X6] nayneshdev:
Ideos X6 = Ideos x5 pro - fm radio - front cam

This device in comparison to x5 has slightly overclocked processor, front cam (vga probably) and fm radio and these are the pros in comparison to x5.

Cons in comparison to x5, The screen 262k / washed out colors, Camera althogh 5 mp not at par with x5, internal storage 1.09 Gb (2.5 Gb in X5), back button stops responding every now and then (all x6(afaik) have this issue), no official ics (x5 has unofficially supported official ics).

Both the devices at xda are experiencing very slow development.

So if you are planning to buy go for x5.
[Huawei Ideos X6] Somcom3X:
How do you determine model #?
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