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[HTC Droid DNA] TypicalHorror:
Android Layman/New DNA Owner

I'm an apprehensive adopter of the DNA. I bought mine out of desperation after smashing ( fell off a ladder) my third LG Spectrum in a little over a year. I did the nominal amount of research it takes to make a decision on a device I will own for two years. So my decision for the DNA is sitting a little negatively now a week later. I have over the last week found a few problems with this device 1. Headphone jack is weak and problematic. Though the audio being pumped out of this device sounds pretty great the issue I have is ....if the cable is moved/twisted/touched ever so slightly the audio cuts out. This has been the case with every pair of headphones I have used. (this could also be the sign of a defective device). 2. The Sense UI with the exception of a few graphical upgrades seems exactly the same as the Thunderbolt I owned two years ago. Coming off whatver the UI on the Spectrum was called I was expecting an upgraded experience. 3. The Camera Sucks. Low light/ flash photos come out looking grainy and blown out. They almost look like they were taken from a front facing camera. Daylight photos come out fine, but nothing to write home about.

I'm fine with the battery life. It gets me through an 8 hour work day plus a two hour commute and then some. while constantly playing audiobooks, music and podcasts. I usually get a total of 14-15 hours before needing to plug in.

The Screen is great, the look and feel of the device is excellent. But to be quite honest before smashing my spectrum I was kind of dead set on riding out the rest of my VZ contract and joining AT&T for the extra 1GB of data a month. I was also pretty hung up on whether or not to just bite the bullet and go with an iPhone 5 for the picture quality and for a change of pace.

Side note: For someone as clumsy as myself, I had to opt for an OtterBox ( Defender Series) and with that monster its a pain in the ass getting it in and out of my pocket. I seriously can't imagine how gigantic a Note 2 would be with the same protection.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
Lol nah I like you. Others are trolls ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Well if I keep at this rate ill be over 7 hours...
[HTC Droid DNA] Itzvik:
If i keep this up ill be a little over 15hrs soon...

Sent from my HTC DROID DNA.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Now go find something else to complain about.
[HTC Droid DNA] cowisland:
Is this the longest screen on time we have seen, at six hours?
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
dunno how you do it man lol
[HTC Droid DNA] pocketbook:
Ah yes, thank you for your wonderful circa 2009 retort. Hilarious and original.

You're pretty angry over people stating their preferences in phones. HOW DARE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN RIDICULOUS OPINIONS. People look for a high screen-on time usage because some people are away from chargers for several hours to even a day or two. Having that is good piece of mind that even if you forget it, you can still use your phone like normal and still expect it to make it through a day.

But thank you, thank you for your angry opinions on what some people find great in a phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] TechSavvy2:
6hrs screen time? Wtf? I'm awake 12~18 hrs a day. I can't imagine having my screen on for 33~50% of my day, lolz.

I get maybe 2 hrs max on my Nexus 4 with mediocre day to day use.
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
I'm pretty sure that was just to prove a point.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Cool, but 8 hours overall time isn't anything to brag about and I would imagine that you just let the phone screen sit on with the clock app or something with low drain right? There is no way in the world you would get 6 hours screen time with real world usage, ie. texts, calls, YouTube, email, Facebook, games, music, gps, etc.

But it's cool you got it, I will give you that. :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
I had screen brightness set on low, and used my phone normally. Only thing I didn't do was play games.

And I could of gotten that total time higher, this phone only drains like 1% a hour.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
You can tell what people do (or don't do) for a living and whether they travel a lot from their posts (that and their grammer and choice of words). When you travel and cross multiple time zones your device isn't on a "go to bed and charge/wake up and start over" fixed schedule. Especially when traveling internationally. And having to spend unplanned time on long conference calls or a lot of screen on time participating in a volley of e-mails or document editing can total your battery in no time. So for people that spend 90% of their time doing the same things the same way each day with easy access to 110V outlets, LTE, and the cloud things like battery and storage are less significant. But obviously these conversations (debates) wouldn't be taking place if that's the way everyone used their devices. I couldn’t have owned a One X if I didn’t keep my new best friend (battery booster) with me 24/7.
[HTC Droid DNA] aliya00:
Note 2 FTW!

Amazing battery life with superb software implementation have win my heart.

Bonus:

-S-pen

-Developers Supports

-Samsung Supports

-Great 5.5 inch screen!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
[HTC Droid DNA] jreed2560:
Anti bonus:

1.Gigantic phone that must be operated with two hands

2. S pen WILL eventually get lost

3. Crappy Samsung radios

4. Plastic, plastic, and more plastic

5. 300 bucks on contract (got my DNA and a charging pillow for 100)

To each their own. Only difference is I'm not in the note 2 forum trying to convince you or brag about my device.

sent from my DNA Employee Edition 04271
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
1. False. I'm an average size male and can operate it with one hand.

2. Only if you're irresponsible. You should never be in a situation where you set it down and lose track of it when you can easily slide it back into the phone.

3. False again. This thing trumps the GS3 radios by far (I had one), and it is getting just as good or even better in a lot of cases reception than the DNA in my low reception office at work. And I'm not talking bars. DBM.

4. Since when did plastic become a weak material? Up until cell phones, plastic has always been one of the most durable, pliable and widely used materials for a myriad of products. People need to get that nonsense out of their heads. And it makes the phone lighter on top of that.

5. You pay more for more phone. Not too hard of a concept.

And if you don't want to hear about the Note 2 in the DNA forum, then don't visit a Note 2 vs thread. :rolleyes:
[HTC Droid DNA] klarson:
Again to each their own. This is all about personal preference. One device suits the needs better than another does and vice versa. All this thread has turned into is people bickering and trying to prove that the note 2 is better than the dna.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
I totally agree with you, that's the funny thing. It is completely down to personal preference and everyone should get what works for them.

My issue was that he was flinging around false info and probably hasn't owned the Note 2. I see this thread as possibly a very useful tool for a lot of people on the fence. And to just toss around false info about one device might lead someone to make the wrong decision when the info wasn't even accurate in the first place.
[HTC Droid DNA] TXI Kaze:
1. Preference

2. Opinion, and misguided at that. You know when the pen is not back in the phone and if you move too far from the pen the phone will notify you...

3. Samsung only had issues with CDMA radios. Keyword being HAD. The Note 2 gets as good (if not better) reception than the note 2.

4. Guess what most of the DNA is made of? Polycarbonate. The exact same material used for the Note 2.

5. That was just the situation for YOU. The DNA is 200 with contract from Verizon right now as it usually is. The note 2 has a bigger screen, bigger battery, and a LOT more features. Completely justified to be 299.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
The Note II is the first Samsung phone to use Qualcomm's latest radio. It's most likely the same radio HTC's using in the DNA.

I talked earlier about the Note 2 being the first Samsung handset I know of to include MDM9x15. In the case of the T-Mobile Note 2 I was sampled, the device includes MDM9215 which is capable of category 3 LTE FDD and TDD, Release 9 DC-HSPA+, GSM/EDGE, and TD-SCDMA along with onboard gpsOneGen 8A GNSS. I’ve confirmed that MDM9215 is present without having to disassemble or otherwise tamper with the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/9​

http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/gobi
[HTC Droid DNA] Ma$etas:
havent looked it up, but did they include that radio on the CDMA version of the phone i.e. Sprint's version ??

weak samsung radio is whats keeping me back from buying the note 2
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Well, you shouldn't be holding yourself back because the Verizon Note 2 radios are just as good as the DNA or any other phone with good radios.

I know you don't know me, but trust me. I have the worst possible reception at work and it's what you would call a fringe area. I'm in San Diego and I normally get excellent reception everywhere except where I work, go figure.

With my GS3, I would get fairly bad reception. To the point that text messages would bounce back to me multiple times per day. I also couldn't get a GPS lock indoors with my GS3. With the DNA, both of those issues were eliminated at work. With the Note 2, same thing. As a matter of fact, I am getting about 1-2 DBM more (or less I guess in the case of DBM) than my DNA. I also get a fast lock indoors for GPS.

In short, don't hold back from getting the Note 2 because of radio fears. They are completely eliminated with the Note 2. As someone posted earlier, they are different and better radios than Samsung has ever used up to this point.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ma$etas:
thanks . ive been wanting to buy it but been holding back because of that.. I currently have the SGS2 Epic touch which gives me a lot of problems in regards to calls. Some times i get phantom voicemails, my phone wont ring even when i have full bars and the caller is right next to me. I use my phone heavily for work and need to be able receive every call .. For that reason i was looking for a good HTC or Motorola or even going back to a Blackberry but if the note 2 's radios are good then i just found my new phone...
[HTC Droid DNA] jreed2560:
So hold the phone in your left hand and hit the back button comfotably. Then hold your phone in the right hand and hit the menu button. Now hold the phone in your left hand pull down the notification window and hit clear without having to hold the phone awkwardly. I agree its preference. But that's what it means to use the device one handed. There are things you can do with one hand bit you can't do everything. And that's my point. If I can't solely use one hand to do everything on my phone its useless to me. O have too many other things to do than be hampered to just using my phone. Again I know this is just my opinion but if others can state their opinion why can't I state mine?

sent from my DNA Employee Edition 04271
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
so for anyone who cares, i'm returning my DNA today :( that blue dot really left a bad taste in my mouth..especially when i returned it for another, and there were dead pixels everywhere.

i've got to send both back to verizon as RMAs now, and in the end, i'm just gonna get a new GS3. the GS3 is the perfect size, i think. i was thinking note 2 because its updated and whatnot, but i sold one yesterday, and its TOO damn big. way too big, and i have big hands. that's not for me.

gs3 still rocks though :)
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Wow man, what a turn of events. It's funny that you mention the blue splotches, I noticed that on a display model at Verizon and I just chalked it up to people pounding on the screen all day. And then I saw a lot of people having that problem here in the forum and it was really unsettling.

And regarding dead/stuck pixels, my first two DNA's had multiple dead/stuck pixels. It wasn't until my 3rd one that it finally didn't have any. And then as fate would have it, I didn't keep the phone anyways. I was kicking myself after the fact that I wasted so much time on it.

You are making a good choice with the GS3. While I think you would love the Note 2 a bit more, if the size doesn't work for you, then it doesn't work. But with the GS3 you are getting an excellent phone that is easy to root and unlock, and it has a bunch of high quality ROM's available for it. Plus you will have a much wider variety of choice for accessories compared to the DNA.

And to be honest, not to bash on HTC or the DNA, but HTC seems very confused right now and is doing miserably financially. They keep releasing way too many phones in different varieties. They don't have a solid plan it doesn't seem like. With Samsung, they have the Galaxy series and the Note series as their headliners. HTC has the One series and then just a mish mash of everything else it seems like.

Who knows what the future will hold, but you are making a wise choice IMO. Good luck buddy!
[HTC Droid DNA] thachosenone:
As much as I would love to use my "upgrade" (t mobile value plan) for the note 2, I find myself wanting to save it and the money for a down payment for when the time S4 gets released.

I already have a note 10.1 and as soon as it gets officially upgraded to jelly Bean (that's a whole other headache), I don't find the need for the note 2.

I also find it a bit too big and cumbersome. One handed use is priceless, and the size of my GSM gNex is almost perfect. If the S4 has a full hd 5 inch screen with a thinner bezel.... Perfection.

I really do miss Touchwiz. I had a Samsung vibrant for about 18 months before I caved and bought the gNex. The vibrant showed me that Samsung phones are among the EASIEST to root, even when compared to Nexus phones. Something tells me that they'll bring the curved glass to the SGS line, since they didn't get to use them after the gNex.

My little brother has the one S and while I applaud the construction of HTC phones, the glass breaks easily because of their "tapered towards the frame" design. Granted the downside of an AMOLED panel is that when you break the glass, you have to replace the whole screen because they are fused together. (except for the s3, apparently)

All in all, the upcoming/unannounced Galaxy S IV seems more worth the wait. Touchwiz can only get better, they'll probably throw in their next gen A15 based quad core SoC, a 1080p curved AMOLED panel, and rumors are swirling about an s pen coming to the s4. :D
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
The baseband is the same...

The Droid DNA and Optimus G are both LTE enabled through yet another Qualcomm chipset, this time their MDM9x15 chipset, which actually also powers the Nexus 4 but does not have LTE.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...5-1080p-quad-core-phone-by-htc-announced.aspx​
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
4. Cmon now..... You would rather have cheap plasticy gadgets? Be gone troll. Ill Yale my metal chassis laptop over plastic cramp anyday
[HTC Droid DNA] TXI Kaze:
Funny since the DNA has polycarbonate, just as the note 2 ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
So I'm a troll now because I said plastic is a strong and flexible material? Cool bro, thanks. :confused:
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Aesthetics are in the eye of the beholder. I like the design and feel of HTC's devices better but that doesn't mean Samsung's are "cheap" and "plasticky." If HTC devices had substantial (vs. marginal) batteries and removable (or adequate) storage while still maintaining their sleek designs the debate would be different. As it is you have to pick a beautifully designed phone with shortcomings or a nicely designed phone without them. Both are equally durable and Samsung's material choices aren't cut rate they are what they are to allow for the back cover to be removed. If you scratch the back of a HTC device it’s a $125 repair. It’s $20 to get a replacement back for a Samsung device so there’s some benefit to their approach. Regardless they sold 20MM devices a month in Q4, a 75% YOY increase, while HTC reported their worst quarterly profit in years. So when voting with their wallets it would appear the masses prefer function over form. The Xperia Z is a 1080P phone that’s one-piece and thinner than the DNA/Butterfly (7.9MM) with a 2330mAh (14% larger) battery

and

removable storage. So it’s not like there’s any justification for HTC’s design compromises. Let's hope the M7 represents a turn-around in HTC's approach to combining specs, features, and design. If it doesn't, with the likes of the Xperia Z, SGS4, and LG F240K being released, their screwed (again).
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
No but implying it is the better material...
[HTC Droid DNA] jgentile11:
Wow kids =)... This is my first time ever being in here and ever replying to a thread. I'm a 37yr old woman, pretty techie, not like you guys of course. But I'm the go to girl for all my family & friends for anything technical.

Maybe I shouldn't bud in but I will... Every time I visit a site to find out more information on Note II there's an argument? Why? Who cares about anyone else's phone? How much they paid? What it does or doesn't do? How big it is or how little? Guys it is about Choice! Can't we all just be thankful these companies all make different products with different features! Look at all the diversity we have now. Would you all want to be forced to carry the same phone. No I think not... Now to try to help end this debate.

I am 5"1 104pnds I have tiny hands I wear a size 5 ring. My Note II fits fine in one hand. I can text one handed with help of side keyboard. But I use SwiftKey Flow so yes I type to handed or I Flow (swype) with one! And it's perfectly doable... I also have a FlyGrjp which I recommend for everyone... The Note II is the best phone I have ever owned. And I've had a few including every iPhone except one. I will never own another phone unless it's the Note III! Lol... But that doesn't mean I do not think all these other phones are not totally awesome phones! Technology has come leaps and bounds in even 10yrs. I am grateful for the diversity and saddened by the arguing and banter over another humans choice in a personal device. Be kind to one another please... Their are so many more important things to be exerting your energy on... Ty
[HTC Droid DNA] TXI Kaze:
Stating a fact is implying, eh?
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Don't underestimate yourself or overestimate everyone else. Since Android's exploded in popularity XDA's forums, especially the general sections, have participants at all level of "techie." One thing you left out about the N2. It makes a great self-protection device and can definitely inflict some damage. ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Damn, I'm gonna go through all of my thanks for the day with you two! I couldn't have said all of this better myself.

Very well put and welcome to XDA! I know I've done my share of bantering in this thread, but I totally agree with you. At the end of the day, choice is great and whichever phone works for the individual is the one that they should get!

I just get fired up when people throw misinformation out there.

Have fun here! :D
[HTC Droid DNA] TXI Kaze:
I've seen more confusion and misinformation in this forum than any other board I've been on. Thanks for being a proper person through the trolling.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
No problem man, I am right there with you. I don't want to sound egotistical, but I've been around Android for a long time and I've had a large number of phones from most of the manufacturers. Heck, in the last 6 months, I think I have had 4 or 5 different phones, I'm losing track lol. I love cell phone technology.

Along with that, I've been rooting, flashing custom ROM's, theming, modding, etc for years now. I would like to think that I know a thing or two about this stuff. So when I heard something like "Note 2 with crappy radios", it makes me upset because someone on the fence might listen to that and not get the phone.

I just do what I can and I'm more than happy to help anyone that may have questions. But as we know, you've been doing an excellent job of dropping good info here.

Have a good one!
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Just a little counter balance...

The DNA/Butterfly/J-Butterfly is an incredible device. It has a beautiful 5" 441PPI LCD3 display that's without question the best on a mobile device right now. S4 Pro/Adreno 320 is the most powerful CPU/GPU combination available and it's quite energy efficient to boot. Sense 4+ is also lighter than former versions and along with 2GB of RAM delivers a great user experience and a degree of personalization that other devices don't (themes and scenes). Its limitations are battery life beyond a certain point and a smallish amount of fixed storage. To people who aren't affected by those two things it's a terrific device with a terrific design. For people who are affected by those things it's probably not the right device for them. But it doesn't mean it's in any way a bad device.

The N2 isn't flawless either. It's big, weighs a ton, and is difficult (if not impossible) to use with one hand. Its display is fine and has all the benefits (contrast, color saturation) and downsides (limited brightness) all AMOLED displays have. With 1080P displays on the horizon the N2's certainly isn't going to win any awards. Multiview, S Pen, and S Note are great features but may not be appreciated by everyone. To those that aren't looking for those features the N2's a giant SGS3. Outside of that, TW looks little different than it did when it launched on the SGS1. It does however offer a fantastic level of functional customization. Exynos 4/Mali 400 performs well but Exynos 5 Quad and S4 Pro are more powerful chips so later this quarter the N2 will be eclipsed performance wise by newer devices; including the SGS4. One place the N2 is the undisputed champ is battery life and storage. With a swappable 3,100mAh battery it's a veritable camel for screen on time. And with up to a 64GB exFAT SD card it has industry-leading storage abilities.

Whether the N2's a good choice depends on people's view of its size weighed against its features weighed against newer devices coming out this quarter. If the DNA's battery and storage don't bother people they don't even have to wait; the DNA is the first of a new generation of 1080P high-end devices.

So there, if they were kids fighting in a school yard it would end up a bloody tie. ;)

P.S. - Either is a far better choice than either the Optimus G/N4 which were also part of this debate.
[HTC Droid DNA] aliya00:
If battery life is important to you guys, lets check the difference between note 2 and dna.

DNA

Note 2

Hope this post can help those who are still confuse between dna and note battery performance.

p/s note 2 have much more satisfied user on their battery life.

Cheers.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Yes, the note 2 has better battery life. I'm pretty sure no one is denying that. But the DNA still has great battery life, its just not insane like the note 2.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
You mean insane like this? I just got this over the past couple days. It's more than insane, it's downright clinical. :D
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Double post, sorry.
[HTC Droid DNA] Tomatoes8:
Xperia Z owns this so badly it is not even funny.
[HTC Droid DNA] themikeyan:
really? a newer yet unreleased device is better than a currently on the market device... ?? you don't say....
[HTC Droid DNA] SAMPCam:
Newer technology tends to be better than older technology?!