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[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Here are a couple that have nothing to do with S Pen...

The ability to turn off the capacitive button lights so if you're navigating or watching flash-based video in a browser they don't distract you.

Long pressing a function in the notification bar open that function. (EG: short press Wi-Fi = toggle, long press=open Wi-Fi settings) so you have quick access to most used settings no matter where you are in the UI or an app.

Customize which functions appear in the notification bar and reorder them.

Unlock the device via voice including separate commands to unlock via voice directly in to various apps.

Use voice to control the music player, take a picture, snooze or shut off the alarm, or accept or reject an incoming call.

Launch the camera while the device is locked by holding a finger on it and rotating it from vertical to horizontal.

Smart Stay to keep the device awake when looking at it and Smart Rotation to keep it at the same orientation as your eyes if you change position.

Music Hub subscription service with locker storage (matched) for your own music and the ability to download unlimited songs (while subscribed) to the device's SD card and have them all show up in the stock music player.

Music Square which determines the "mood" of all your stored music and allows you to instantly create playlists based on the mood of a song you're currently listening to.

S Voice to control a much broader list of functions by voice than what’s supported by Google Now and dial by name or number via BT including sending MMS and e-mail.

Quick Glance to see time, date, weather, battery life, missed calls/messages, and new e-mail by waving your hand over the device without unlocking it.

Customize your e-mail signature in the stock e-mail client including different fonts, colors, and graphics.

Direct call to automatically dial a number from an open contact, MMS, or e-mail message.

Palm touch to mute the device by covering it with your hand.

Driving mode to read incoming MMS and e-mail aloud.

There's more, and some I omitted are gimmicky, but I use the ones just mentioned regularly. And I didn't miss them using Sense 4+ but I would now if I had to go back. You can probably duplicate some of the functions via third party apps but when I was using a Smart Stay substitute on my One X it worked half the time and drained my battery full time so there's a benefit to having features integrated.

I asked the question in the Sense 5 discussion if there was any new functionality added and I got crickets. So I'm assuming that Sense remains behind TW in giving users more control over the device’s behavior. But the Sense vs. TW discussion is no different than the AOSP vs. overlay discussion. If people don't see the need for additional features that's cool. But, at least to me, having more options is never a bad thing.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Some of those do sound interesting, I'm sure I would miss them if I were accustomed to them. As far as Sense5, no one really knows ruight now but I'm not expecting something that'll make me say wow.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Here are some "WTF?" features...

Bang the top of the device twice to go to the beginning of a scroll list.

Shake the device to find other Samsung devices in the vicinity to share with.

Wave your hand sideways over the display to capture a screen shot.

Scroll news across the lockscreen where you can see it for ten seconds before the screen goes black again.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. ;) I do miss HTC's productivity lockscreen which is both clever and practical.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Why won't this thread die?

Sent from my SuperCharged DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
You can't kill what can't be killed.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
Dude, why do you care so much? Is it that hard to ignore it? :confused:
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
I should be asking you the same thing. Go spread your negativity elsewhere

Sent from my SuperCharged DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
I'm choosing not to ignore. Something I can't say about you.

Let me ask you this.... If this was a positive DNA thread, you wouldn't even be bothered right?

What if someone bought the DNA and decided that they hated it? Could they not start a thread about it? With your logic they shouldn't.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Im cool with people not liking it. But youre in EVERY thread asking about the dna hating on it constantly. You act as if your opinion is the end all be all and that you know everything there is to know about the phone. You need to quietly make your way back to the samsung forum and finish your koolaid.

Sent from my SuperCharged DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
They are more than welcome to make a level headed thread stating what they dislike it. No one is opposed to that.

But for someone to constantly bash a device they dont own anymore just is stupid and shows that they are insecure about the device they purchased, so they have to constantly bash a device they subconsciously know is better so they feel better about their device.

Remind you of anyone?
[HTC Droid DNA] bluefoam:
Last time I checked, my butterfly had an SD car slot... + I can get 36 hours out of the battery, so it sounds like you are talking about specs and not actual use.

You can skew this argument any way you want. At the end of the day, the HTC is a great phone and will suit some people. The Note II will suit some. While I love my butterfly, it is at the extreme in terms of size of phone I am willing to carry. For me the Note II would never even come into consideration, as it is too impractical and looks like a clowns phone. The M7 will be marginally better than the DNA/Butterfly, but then I would have had to wait a further 3 months to get it... and that would have meant more of a sacrifice on my side.

BTW, how can you say that the DNA/Butterfly is a LTE niche phone, when both the butterfly & J Butterfly are GSM... Sounds like making stuff up to support your argument.

The Note II & the DNA/Butterfly may be both large high end phones, but IMO are not comparable in terms of target demographic.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
That doesn't apply to the DNA which will likely outsell the J Butterfly and Butterfly because VZW has as many subscribers as all of Japan. The J Butterfly/Butterfly with an SD card slot won't sell anywhere near the volume of global phones like the One X/XL because of its limited distribution and I don't think there are more than a dozen users on this forum.

The DNA has an 11% larger battery than the One XL but has two additional cores and is pushing more pixels to a larger display. Ergo, since the battery was at best adequate (as reported by users) on the One XL it's not going to be any better on the DNA/Butterfly. And what's stupendous for some is atrocious for others. If the DNA had the same size battery (2,300 mAh) as what’s supposed to be in the smaller-screened M7 we wouldn’t be discussing it.

Who said anything about LTE? It's a niche phone because it's only offered in select markets and doesn't support quad-band HSPA which all of HTC's global phones do. If the DNA/Butterfly was meant to be a "flagship" we wouldn't be awaiting the announcement of the globally-targeted M7; we’d see sales of the Butterfly being expanded to additional regions and it being offered by additional carriers. The M7 is going to be launched at a global conference (like the One series) where the DNA and Butterfly were launched at small regional events.

I agree that they have two different missions but since they are cross-shopped the debate rages on. ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] bluefoam:
Its hilarious that you consider the world outside America as a niche market (excluding Europe in this instance). FFS.

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you did:

Excuse me for mixing up CDMA & LTE

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That just makes no sense, the only people I read that have a problem with the battery, are those who don't own the phone. The battery is no worse than most phones on the market... heres an example of mine over two working days:
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Still comments about the battery? Like Ive posted before, I consistantly average 15 hours a charge with medium to heavy use. For a phone with a 1080p 5 inch screen and a quad core processor, Id say that's damn good and very acceptable.

Sent from my SuperCharged DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] Luigi711:
The DNA is great phone. If we wait for the M7 to come out, in a couple of months rumors will start of a better phone.

That's why there a devs. To keep phones up to date running the latest software.

Stick to yer note, and let the DNA'ers worry about being pissed or not.

I'd say most are happy, its one h3ll of a device.

HtC DNA

XDA App
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
I spend as much time traveling outside the U.S. as I do in it so I'm pretty aware of various global markets. HTC's pushing the J Butterfly/Butterfly primarily in Asia. HTC's market share in China which is a huge opportunity is 2% compared to Samsung's 26%. ZTE, Huawei, Lenovo, and Oppo own the Chinese market so the odds of the Butterfly moving the needle there are slim. And China and India are the only ASEAN markets in the top 5 and in India value-priced devices outsell high-end devices 10:1. So you can pretty much assume it was always HTC's intent for the Butterfly to be an interim (niche) device to fill a gap until the M7 arrived.

And HTC's continually eroding market share doesn't even qualify them as a top five smartphone vendor as of Q4 2012 having been replaced by the Chinese. As they say, it is what it is.
[HTC Droid DNA] iphoneislame:
I'm definitely a note 2 guy but I just listened to a dna through a pair of beats headphones and, I gotta say, I wouldn't mind having that built in amp. It sounds something like how I imagine the stereo in Snoop Dogg's car would sound.
[HTC Droid DNA] ali_l67:
Last week I decided to upgrade my sensation xe . Before I read your review I want buy nexus 4 or butterfly and dont even thinking about big big big note 2 but after I read that I make my decision to buy note2 unbelievably ! And now I buy it and come here to say u tanks alot man ! Yhis is best ever review what help me to buy what I need , just tanx very much
[HTC Droid DNA] prerav31:
I have the note 2 and DNA currently and next week my nexus 4 will arrive I want to compare all 3 for my self to decide which I like better but as a all around phone between the note and DNA I prefer the DNA not to big or flashly plus feels more premium in the hands compared to the note 2 plus imo touchwiz is amazing but seems too cartoonish for me HTC sense is more suitable for me but would choice pure android any day so with that being said can't wait to get my nexus 4 and play with it I see my DNA being my daily driver, my note 2 as my play phone, and my nexus some where in the middle of both

Samsung Note 2 = LeBron James

HTC Droid DNA = Dwayne Wade

Google (LG) Nexus 4 = Chris Bosh

The Big 3
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Kobe > The Big Three
[HTC Droid DNA] pierrekid:
Oh really? How are those playoff aspirations looking?
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
He has more rings than the big three combined :p
[HTC Droid DNA] aliguu:
haha just saw this thread and loved it :D

Because i wish someone did this before i got my ONE X...! it would have help me save some money! lol

now i m a owner of iphone 4s & 5 and ONE X and NOTE 2. so here my say for comparing ONE X (mostly similar to DNA) & NOTE 2.

Obviously it comes down to personal usage and preferences, but 'generally speaking', below would be my ideal of everyday users check-list for a 'good phone' IMO.

1. Phone Functionality -[ALL phones TICKED if they are JB 4.1]

2. SMOOTHNESS > slight lag -[NOTE 2 =/> ONE X]

3. Form -[User preference due to screen size]

4. BATTERY -[NOTE 2 >alot ONE X]

5. Media - Camera / Music -[ONE X > all]

6. Extra features -[NOTE 2 > all]

It comes down to the following, if you are in the market:

-are you ok with a 5.5" size phone

-are you ok with 6-8hr of battery usage a day.

So IF you are ok with both, then you can get either, so go to the shop and see what the best offer and get the physical feel of your best preferred.

IF you are ok with large size screen, get note 2.

IF you are ok with battery, you may consider HTC.

To my understanding, the newer ONE X+ and DNA (Butterfly J) offers similar battery life to its predecessor, despite JB4.1 I'm doubtful if it will give you a satisfactory boost in this regard.

Well just my 2c, hope it will add some thoughtful pointers to others currently in the market.

And personally Jordon > all :angel:
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
6-8 hours of battery? Seriously... Lol... Not even close...
[HTC Droid DNA] aliguu:
haha well my personal usage (work emails/personal gmails/whatsapp/facebook/calls/15-30min gaming/music on the train/15-30min camera shot and edit) doesnt differ from everyday others i suppose. Ultimately is that it doesn't go through a full day out and often left me outta power way before i get home on the weekends... :eek: so annoying.

someone above before quoted 15hr of usage...... I ****ING DOUBT THAT lol (no disrespect)

I think only my grandma can match that kind of usage.
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Keep doubting haha. And just so you STFU with your nonsense. Here is a screen shot, notice the screen time compared to unplugged time. I literally have no reason to lie on xda about battery life lol.

ViperDNA
[HTC Droid DNA] boorhanns:
Well written comparison between the three phones and i think it's fair for the most par.. nice to know
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
You do realize you have a different phone with different specs right? And take a look at the battery thread in our forums.... You are just plain wrong...
[HTC Droid DNA] strip419:
I want to know how better the DNA gets @ gaming.....a lot of benchmarks(3D) have left the note 2 behind.....am really into gaming and I know andreno gpu of the DNA is better than the mali-400mp in the note 2(I still don't know why Samsung used that gpu for 4 devices in 2 generations) but the DNA has comparability issues due to dat screen....the thing is all the benchmarks leave Mali in the dust....but hey the always say benchmarks don't really matter that much.....so I want to asked those of u using the device.....what do u recommend I get note 2 or DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Wow, this thread went sideways fast. Aliguu, did/do you have a Teg3 One X or a S4 One XL? The latter gets decent battery life and people do get six hours of screen on time. I assume when you said six hours that you were referring to the One X and screen on time. With moderate productivity use I could get about twelve hours a day of battery life out of my Teg3 One X with about four hours of screen on time and its battery life sucked compared to the One XL. I've gotten as high as nine hours of screen on time on my N2 being used exactly the same way.

I disagree with you about the camera and music being better on the One X. Pics were highly compressed and you could see it pretty easily when you viewed them off the device. We had the music debate a couple of pages back and the N2 wins on sound quality while the DNA wins on loudness primarily because of its amp which you wouldn't have had on your One X/XL.
[HTC Droid DNA] sandeep.mjs:
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My dad have Note2. It is awesome phone, no lag, does multitasking well, S-pen functions are good like quickly taking notes.

But it have poor interface.

Cant merge more than 5 contacts so phone book look mess.

too large for my screen

I think i will go for DNA. and dont find any reason Y?
[HTC Droid DNA] scorpiopantera:
You can thank Shaq for that.
[HTC Droid DNA] jlevy73:
Just think of how many rings Shaq and Kobe would have had together if they weren't always arguing about the DNA battery life
[HTC Droid DNA] aliguu:
My appologies guys for being a **** stirra post if I've offended anyone.. was never intending to but rather share my experiences.

My facts were wrong because I assumed ONE X and the newer series' battery life were similar. Thanks barry for clearing it up.

If there are no complaints about battery not lasting a day on average usage with DNA then it's just comes down to screen size imo.

On the camera/image point, my personal experience is that the day to day photos taken on the ONE X seems sharper than NOTE2 before any editing (viewing on computer). Maybe it's just my eyes.. lol
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
I hit the number of likes I can give per day, otherwise I would have liked your post! You officially convinced me to trade my DNA for the Note 2. I'm in the process of re-locking my phone as I type this.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Here's a great analogy. The DNA's a BMW M3; it's light, it's fast, and not always practical. The N2 is a Range Rover; it's big, versatile, and can carry a lot long distances. They, like the DNA and N2, appeal to different audiences.
[HTC Droid DNA] pottersam:
A plastic range rover ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
People confuse the aesthetic with quality. Do you think an HTC phone could survive this? Granted peeling the thin plastic back off a Samsung device to get at its internals doesn't leave you with a very high-end feeling but the flex it provides has saved many a device. And you can replace the entire back of the phone for $19.99 if you damage it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dc9c5YFyovU

P.S. - The design, feel, and display are the primary reasons I bought my One X originally and agree with you about HTC's devices appearing more premium.
[HTC Droid DNA] joshyc5:
I don't agree tbh, you're comparing a completely unlocked, vanilla android experience to HTC sense and TouchWiz. Seriously, the Nexus 4 software wins imo.
[HTC Droid DNA] pottersam:
I have seen that controlled test vid on the sgs3 and it's not that impressive. I have enough friends with the SGS3 phone to know that its not as durable as this controlled video makes it out to be. Hairline cracks that develop for no reason, fragile screen.. i mean its like any other phone really, not saying there's a better alternative. When I have a phone build quality is extremely important to me. Mostly in the aspect of how it feels in my hand, but also in how it looks. Often times this comes down to personal preference, but I find the N4 and DNA to feel 10x easier to hold than the note II. The samsung plastic is slippery and cheap feeling. When I use my DNA before bed it is borderline uncomfortable and straining to my hand, and a N2 would be worse. When I invest in a lot into a phone I want it to feel like a million bucks, not just perform like one. Apple does a great job of this and has lots of customers that pick them on build quality alone. A bigger battery and sd card are nice, but not completely necessary in my case and I weigh the more comfortable + beautiful phone as more fitting. I have never had problems with battery life, but a really heavy user that might be on their phone all day like yourself and could highly benefit from the massive battery on the N2. With that said I probably won't end up keeping this particular DNA that I have because being on contract is the worse feeling and I'm not sure if its a great Tmo unlocked phone compared to other options. I will likely go with a N4 at least for 4-5 months and either keep it or resell for the next unlocked sexy phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
No thanks.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1996299

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I bought the One X when it was released in March. The number of QC and build quality issues was embarrassing for HTC. The Teg3 One X also has a design issue with the placement of its Wi-Fi antennas during assembly that if their a hair off Wi-Fi, BT, and GPS are all borked. No manufacturer can be put on a pedestal and the SGS3's just as durable as the One X and probably more so because the latter's uni-body is so unforgiving to stress. And the closer any display is to the edges of the device the more likely it's going to crack if dropped no matter who makes it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1585082&highlight=build+quality

337 page thread started in June discussing the Wi-Fi issue...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1688538

HTC One X Wi-Fi problems confirmed as hardware issue says HTC

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-x-wi-fi-problems-confirmed-as-hardware-issue-says-htc-20120618/​

I loved my One X but probably wouldn't have if I received one of the 1/3 that had defects. Hopefully HTC's learned and the DNA won't have these types of issues.
[HTC Droid DNA] pottersam:
You took one out of context point and ran with it ignoring the rest of what I said. Immediately before the quote you chose I said ".. i mean its like any other phone really, not saying there's a better alternative. " and the quote immediately after: "Mostly in the aspect of how it feels in my hand, but also in how it looks."

I never said HTC makes more reliable phones, and HTC phone in discussion is the DNA anyways.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Which is exactly why people can't say all Samsung's phones are "crap" and all HTC phones are "built well." They've each had their hits and misses. As for the DNA there aren't enough of them in the wild to formulate an opinion. Same thing for the VZW-specific N2.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
LOL, are we really comparing quality by company?

Please go see the myriads of pissed off Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus owners.

THAT is embarrassing.
[HTC Droid DNA] xxfallacyxx:
And let's keep in mind the Rezound was an industry leading 342ppi.
[HTC Droid DNA] pottersam:
I was responding to the video you posted of the SGS3 controlled stress test and later said its just like any other phone, which I think we can both agree on. The build quality I'm referring to in my previous post is how comfortable the phone is to hold and how nice it looks. This is where SGS3 falls into the cheap plastic and slippery catagory, and where the N2 falls into cheap plastic, slippery, too wide/deep/heavy catagory. If the SGS3 had nicer design and comfort it would be an instant buy for me. If the N2 had the same treatment SGS3 needs as well as a smaller bezel it would be considerable for me.

But of course this all comes down to personal opinion/preference.

Edit: and people would refer to the HTC phones as "built well" based on looks and feel, not drop tests.
[HTC Droid DNA] milan03:
I'm sure no one is chosing the new smartphone based on how well it'll take a drop lol. You want the best user experience and the screen is the window into it. DNA will be perfect with CM10 on it, imho.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Are you referring to this? If so, I'd say Google's the one who should be embarrassed for representing a mutated GN as something it wasn't. Google's already announced that the 3G N7 isn't pure AOSP because of licensing issues with the modem code and it won't receive updates on the same schedule as Wi-Fi N7's. The "purity" of Nexus isn't what it used to be.

And all GN's had dim displays, crappy cameras, and atrocious battery life. But people still loved them. Different strokes I guess.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
I wasn't talking about the software. That wasn't an issue. The craptastic faulty radios and screens were. It was worse for Verizon users because of radios.
[HTC Droid DNA] nrfitchett4:
huh, what is going on?

are you sure its charging at 1.9amp? My charger has a 2A and 1A plug and if I plug a phone to charge into the 2A plug, it only charges at 500mah. Might be a safety feature to make sure you don't melt the phone.