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[HTC Droid DNA] xShin:
I definitely wouldn't.. in my opinion the DNA is superior in every regard. I've never liked Samsung's cheap build quality, nor could I live without Sense. The lack of an SD card is a bit of a bummer, but I realized I hardly ever store anything on my phone anyway, aside from the pictures from the camera and the occasional song or two. As far as battery life, mine has been stellar. Half an hour of web browsing uses maybe around 5% battery for me on 4G LTE, whereas on my Rezound half an hour of web browsing would use at least 15-20%, not to mention it'd turn into a portable handwarmer.. I'm extremely pleased with my battery life on my DNA thus far though.

Ultimately it's your decision, but my opinion is to not do it.
[HTC Droid DNA] Dri94:
Don't be so hard on your rezound it was just trying to keep you warm :)

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[HTC Droid DNA] eighty1:
I've had the thought of returning this for the note 2 mainly because of touchwiz features. I can't say anything bad about the phone except for it lacking features. The phone is great and has a great build also I think it fits better in the hand than the note 2. As far as the note 2 it's S pen is convenient and the pop up browser without leaving the app is great, etc. One thing that bugs me about this phone and Sense is when I take a screenshot I can't share it from the notification pulldown via text. Is it just me?
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
It was the phone I was waiting for, as all the rumors made it seem fantastic. The only real complaints I have is that I need to be careful what I do on my phone if I want it to last all day, I can't surf the web for hours and watch YouTube if I won't be able to charge it before the night. I bought a 64GB MicroSD card to use on my Thunderbolt, so now that card is just sitting collecting dust, and with a display like this it would be useful to have several HD videos on it. The USB port cover is annoying, I'm thinking about just ripping it out. Lastly the camera isn't as good as I thought, and most people tend to favor the quality of the Note 2 instead.

Wireless charging is neat, but personally I would prefer to just stick with direct charging. The phone gets very warm when charging wirelessly, which will probably lead to shortened battery life. With the small battery, it will also need to be charged more frequently, and since it's non-removable who knows what the battery life will be like after hundreds of charging cycles a year from now.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
Yup.
[HTC Droid DNA] Miltos1:
Loving it, but ...

I really love the phone. The Note 2 is way too big for my taste, so that's a non-starter. The battery life is surprisingly great for me. I'd call myself a moderate user and I'm getting through a day with no problem. I have also been surprised that storage hasn't become an issue yet. I'm coming from an original HTC Incredible (running CM9) and I was constantly getting low memory warnings (with 8GB internal and a 16GB sd card). I don't store or watch movies on my phone, but I do store a bunch of mp3s from Google Music offline for listening while I'm skiing or running. The feel in hand is great for me, though I wouldn't mind if it was just a bit heavier.

I am still on the fence though. My main concern is that an equally awesome phone will come out in the next few months (perhaps at CES) with a bigger/removable battery and an sd card slot. I'm also oddly concerned that HTC is not promoting the DNA on their site, when everyone was calling it their new flagship device, and there are hardly any accessories available for it. HTC's home page has been featuring the Windows Phone 8x for a week (I'm guessing Microsoft is subsidizing that). Bestskinsever doesn't have it in their system and Zagg only recently has it listed, but with "coming soon". Makes me fear this phone is going to get glossed over quickly.

I'm also really missing CM and the current root method is a little too involved for me and we don't have s-off yet (I'm not complaining here, I definitely appreciate all the devs who are working on it!). I've got about a week left on my return window and am still not sure if I'm going to stick with it.
[HTC Droid DNA] eighty1:
I get that but there is no option to share it via text instead i only have options of instagram, twitter, etc. I have to click on it and then open it in gallery in order share via text.

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Im with you on the dev part of it. I have been flashing ROMS so long its seems normal to me and usually determines whether I keep the phone or not. Lol
[HTC Droid DNA] tdetroit:
Eh, I never keep a phone for more than 6 months anyhow....

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Complete segue .... but I haven't seen a single TV commercial from Verizon for this phone, but they're busy promoting their other phones. What gives?
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
I kept my Thunderbolt for 20 months (surprising, I know, lol), but I have a feeling if I do keep the DNA I'll end up buying a new phone in the spring/summer when the GS4 and others come out.
[HTC Droid DNA] MohJee:
If you want bigger screen, very excellent battery life, micro sd card, and you like the added functionalities of the s-pen, then I would say go for note 2. If you care more about 1080p display of the DNA, think 5.5" screen is too much, prefer the better quality build of the DNA, then don't. Also if you care about custom kernals and Roms, then it goes without saying note 2 has the edge on that department.

Basically it's a trade off either way. See which things you prefer the most, and that would answer your question.
[HTC Droid DNA] nitsuj17:
does it really?

show me the roster of devs that plan to support the dna, and those that support the note2

cuz its murky on both counts, so theres no clear edge for either
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
You know, I think you and I are long-lost brothers. We think wayyyyy too alike :D
[HTC Droid DNA] vwgti18:
Go note 2 I returned my DNA for the note 2 best thing I ever did.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
Nothing like going to a larger screen + lower resolution.

If I wanted a tablet, I'd grab my N7. I don't want to look like a douche with a phablet to my ear.
[HTC Droid DNA] MohJee:
I was basing that on recent history (Samsung phones have generally been more supported on that regard that HTC phones) and based on availability of the phone. Note 2 is much more available to people around the world and the US (avaliable on all carriers in the US). Already more than 5 million units were sold and it's been out for two months only. Developers usually support popular phones more than less popular ones. But hey I could be wrong, I'm more wrong that right most of the time. Let's wait and see the situation 5 months from now.
[HTC Droid DNA] milan03:
Only if they pry it out of my dead hands... WtF?!
[HTC Droid DNA] xShin:
It did quite a good job at it too! But it would also stop keeping me warm fairly quickly.. :(
[HTC Droid DNA] crossmission:
You see what you're doing now? I was ready to turn in but you had to do that! We were talking about Galaxy Note 2 size battery, not just a little bit bigger, meaning 3100mah which 1080 mah more, ⅓ of a battery more. Anyway the ativ is the exact same width with the dna and just 4 or 5mm less in height, can't recall the actuall number despite being 0.2 of an inch smaller in screen size which ok is almost 5mm, but bare in mind it has a 720p and pentile matrix, as the DNA 1080p and RGB matrix. Cheers.

and on a second note, fanboy my ass, I was waiting for the S3 to come since December 2011 and wasn't buying a phone, and when it came out 7 months later, the "best mobile phone in the market", well, I played with it for 5 minutes and I went and bought the One X, fastest cpu my ass, just a GS2 with bigger but worse screen, if I knew it would be pentile I would have bought the RAZR when it came out and be done with it. Much lower specs but at least I wouldn't be ashamed to hold it in my hands. F.ing plastic phone, and don't worry, I know what polycarbonate is, it doesn't mean that it has to look and feel like my 2 year old niece's toys. a 650 euros (when it came out) device. One X and dna is polycarbonate too but don't feel or look like that. anyhow... goodmorning.
[HTC Droid DNA] themikeyan:
Wow. Does it bother some people this much that some of us prefer HTC over a other brand at this moment? I've gone from a D1 to an Incredible to a Thunderbolt to a nexus to a RAZR HD maxx to a DNA. At this moment I am happiest with the DNA. The note 2 is very nice but not for me. I have multiple clients with note 2's on various networks and I have used them plenty. Does it hurt people that bad when I don't think the note 2 is for me but I have no problem with you liking it.

Isn't this what makes android special compared to iOS. Choices!
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
This thread is kinda the opposite though. People saying they turned the Dna in for the note 2. Unless I'm reading wrong.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
Typical troll to change Operating Systems. Read again, LOL. We are discussing ANDROID phones. 2300 isn't a huge leap from 2020 either. 280mah, really? In Android terms thats like...maybe an hour and a half extra? MAYBE. Large batteries are like the Razr Maxx with its 3300mah battery yet it isn't huge phone. I haven't seen Samsung accomplish that, have you?

Also, tell me where I can buy an Ativ S. No? That is what I thought.

The galaxy Nexus with 2100mah extended battery can't even come close to the battery life of the DNA with a smaller battery.

iPhone has a battery almost half that size and decimates all in battery life. But then, we aren't talking about iOS either. Different Oses manage battery....differently.

:rolleyes:

Call me an HTC fanboy again, it is fascinating:
[HTC Droid DNA] Wkd1:
Definitely an entertaining thread lol. Today is day fourteen for me, and I'm still on the fence on trading this DNA in. How frustrating. I think I'm just down to size. For those that DID switch to the Note 2 from the DNA, do you still feel it was the right move? I might jump over to the Note 2 forums and dig there too. I love this DNA. I have no problems with it. I like HTC phones even though Sense is behind the times compared with Samsung. Even with storage, somehow I still have 6gb available after loading all my crap onto it. Battery life is much better than expected. Decisions...
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
I am still getting used to the size but now that I dont have to worry about app compatibility, I am much happier.

I am content with note 2.

I miss the dna though.
[HTC Droid DNA] obededom:
casual readers are drowning in piss from the contests that litter this page of the thread.

let's keep it 100, husters and thugz

now, let's all sing a song together and eat some cookies
[HTC Droid DNA] tgerbracht:
This thread is interesting and at times funny but it comes down to whether you'd want a stylish wallet or a hip pack.

Yes the hip pack had greater capacity, has more functionality, but it's a hip pack. If you're cool with that, get the Note 2. If you want a terrific smartphone, get the DNA.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
When I hear hip pack, I think of fanny pack, or man-purse.

I for damn sure am not wearing one of those or putting my Note II in it!
[HTC Droid DNA] nycdarkness:
I have a note 2 on sprint and a dna. Recently, I had to send the note 2 to samsung for repair as the power button died suddenly (same day I got the dna ironically). I have owned every top of the line android phone out there that is available on US carriers. The note 2 is a gorgeous phone and so is the DNA. However, having gotten the note 2 first and using the DNA now as my primary it can be hard to live with the short comings. The storage situation I can live with to an extent. The battery is okay but I do find myself having to do a small mid day charge to last till late late night. Do I miss using the note 2? Yes I do. The dna however feels much more manageable to carry around. Eventually, I will replace the DNA with a butterfly J pref in white. The battery can be worked around, the storage simply cannot be in a feasible manner for me.
[HTC Droid DNA] tgerbracht:
Yep, that was the analogy I was making.
[HTC Droid DNA] Tomatoes8:
Haha typical HTC fanboy. 5mm is A LOT BTW. Also, writing off a thinner and shorter phone that has a bigger battery because the battery is not a lot bigger reeks of desperate fanboyism. It has a bigger battery and is noticeably more compact period. If it wasn't such a big deal like you suggest, then why wouldn't HTC do it? I think you fanboys would be much happier if the DNA had a 2300 instead of a 2020 while remaining the same size or more compact. You act like it is nothing.

As far as your second paragragh , well that is just pure denial to suggest that the GS3 screen is worse than the GS2, wasn't the fastest phone at the time, and feels like a fisher price toy. If you can't feel the difference between cell phone plastics and kids toys then there is something wrong with your sense of touch. Haha cheers
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
Ah....I see what you did thar.

I still have a Note II and am not ok with a man purse, LOL.
[HTC Droid DNA] Red5:
Yeah okay... personal attacks are not allowed here on XDA. Posts removed.

Also, this thread is getting a little sketchy... lets watch the trolling as it obviously leads to flaming. Remember, everyone is entitled to their opinions and will have different likes/dislikes than you. Dont flame others just because you may not agree with them.
[HTC Droid DNA] crossmission:
to answer your first part, if you had read how the thread evolved I've already said that an extra 500mah would be more than welcome, and no I don't know why HTC didn't put a bigger battery but my guess is, as good as anyone's, cost or lack of supply of a small enough in size but big enough on ampage (if that's a word or something), samsung makes it's own batteries so they can supply themselves, I'm pretty certain HTC outsources.

As for the second part, the screen IS worse than the GS2, but that's not what I said, I said, when I first got my hands on it I just saw a minor upgrade, higher resolution YES, but not really, at the time nobody knew for sure it was pentile or RGB but the way it looked was simply unimpressive. The way the device feels, hmmm.... really? You want to go into that? There is no independent and unbiased review by anyone on the net or elsewhere that doesn't say the EXACT same thing, in the beggining everyone was saying it's not so bad but as time progressed all of them said the same thing, FLIMSY, if you don't mind the way it feels fine, I do. I've always had phones that felt right in my hand. the gs3 doesn't, it's by no means a bad phone, the contrary, the n2's screen is a LOT better but I really don't like the size of the thing. It's just a matter of taste of course.

Plus, I currently own a LG Optimus 2x and untill a couple of weeks ago (maybe still) my next phone was going to be either an Optimus G or a Nexus 4. Already preordered through expansys a Padfone 2 (whenever it arrives) and if I was a fanboy I would either simply buy the one x+ or the dna straight away. This is NOT being prejudiced against or even for a maker. To give an extra example, I would NEVER NEVER buy an Iphone but the best tablet I ever owned was the Ipad and still suggest to others. That means I am unbiased and objective to one extend (see what I did there? I cross a platform to prove a point :-p but I meant it)

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damn, I'm watching misfits and typing so I missed the flames and trolls, hope it wasn't about something I said...
[HTC Droid DNA] tsowen:
All have been warned, let's watch the trolling and flaming!!
[HTC Droid DNA] crossmission:
I'm not anti-samsung, sure, I hold a grudge for waiting 7 months and they gave us the S3 :epicfail: given the time and options they had to deliver, I hold a serious grudge over HTC for refusing to cover the wifi issue because I unlocked it. I don't live in England or the US unfortunately, customer service is qiute bad here and you always end up with a bill even if it should be covered by warranty. I hold a grudge over LG cause the 2x is waiting for a year to get the ics update and it's still "in development". The thing is that both the note 2 and the S3 are not what I hoped and expected them after ALL those complaints by users for the feel of the devices. The note 2 is certainly better in every way but too big for my taste. I'm not going to backsearch all the reviews of the S3 I've read, you can do that yourself easily "galaxy s3, flimsy, plastickey, dissapointing screen" etc. you can switch up a bit to get more results. Or if you speak a few more languages even better, english is not the only language in the universe, unless your a star trek character :)
[HTC Droid DNA] crossmission:
I tried to thank you but I don't have anymore today lol, anyhow ... everything that you said is right, let me ask you, what phone are you using right now?
[HTC Droid DNA] Red5:
Thank you for that wall of text lol.

til;dr he prefers the N2 over the HOX :D
[HTC Droid DNA] crossmission:
not gonna quote cause it's huge but nice and comprehensive post by BarryH_GEG, sorry but will get due thanks tomorrow.

@tomatoes8

and partly barryH_GEG

I know what polycarbonate is and I never said it's not durable, it's the same material they make helmets off of, not as many layer but still, I still own a few helmets like that, now switched to carbon fiber but after a lady missed her lane and miraculusly found mine on an intersection, let's say I'm just driving my car now. Anyhow, it's the feel and the expactations the problem.

@tomatoes8 only now: I just realized what you are after finding a comment andrynalyne gave you about your n4,

YOU'RE a closet troll, you can't troll on your own forum cause you need them, instead you find the one device you're jealous of, not having it and all, and troll to yout heart's behest. I just have to go back to work now, enough taking brakes for mythical creatures of urban legend (kust made the wholesale closet troll up, if someone hasn't called it I call dibs, credit me whenever you use it, actually am gonna post a signature right now, YEAH BABY!!)

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****e, it didn't update it on my previous posts, what to do, life is short anyway :)
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
The DNA is a One XL with an 11% larger battery, bigger screen with a higher PPI, and a newer SoC. 4.1.1 and Sense 4+ are the same with the exception being VZW"s "enhancements" like removing the recent apps button mapper And I didn't say I preferred the N2 over the One X. I said I liked them both for different reasons. Would you prefer people bash one over the other and flame each other's opinions? I figured the "wall of text" might help people that were trying to decide between the two devices.
[HTC Droid DNA] nkgangew:
Once again, a guy with an extra chromosome throwing out the word "retarded". Don't understand how you don't see Adrynalynes point that Samsung's phones of similar size as the DNA have similar battery sizes, only the DNA gets better battery life (if you want a source, just Google it. Its common knowledge). But what really destroys your argument is the Note 2. Its a different type of device. Why some people can't understand that the DNA rivals the GS3 and not the Note 2, ill just never understand. Average people want a smaller battery for the smaller phone because average people don't use 4 hours of on screen time.
[HTC Droid DNA] C-Lang:
Good to know, thanks!
[HTC Droid DNA] nkgangew:
Very well said sir. My favorite thing about Android is not knowing what phone or manufacturer I'm going to chose next. I really really really struggled with my decision between getting the DNA, the Note 2 or waiting for the GS4. After the GS4 was announced to have encountered an issue with mass producing their 1080p display, thus delaying the release time to Q2, I decided that I wanted to go with the DNA. Why? Because I don't play many games, nor am I a big note taker so the S Pen and big battery would be wasted on me. And that was my reasoning. Mr. HTC FANBOY (lol) aka Adrynalyne, returned his DNA for a Note 2. Why? Because he's a gamer. And I think respect him even more now that he made his decision based on what his wants and needs are. Not on some argument of which is the "cooler" device to own. Like I've said, they're both damn good devices. But they're so different that one of them is bound to suit your needs.
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
For 1. Wtf are you talking about? Where did i even say what you just randomly wrote up? I asked him a simple question once again. What you're saying wasn't even part the conversation. The comment that he said that made me even respond to has nothing to do with what you posted. He said that Samsung couldn't do it or they would of. He didn't say ANYTHING to me about battery life on the two devices.

For 2. Where did you see me saying the Dna rivaled the gnote 2?

Please direct me to where your post even responds to anything I wrote correctly. Maybe I am missing something.

And if you're talking about average consumers.. Where have you seen them say they want a smaller battery? Especially with android phones? Could of swore the average person doesn't care about stuff like that. You show me a post of someone saying we need smaller batteries because our phones are small.

You should read through this thread then go get your chromosomes counted up.

And adrynalyne is giving you thanks because you said something about me. I'm pretty sure he knows you made 0 damn sense.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
I understood him fine. :laugh: If you spent less time trying to twist people's words and read instead, you might understand as well.
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
The points he was making had nothing to do with what I've said here.

Be my guest and show me where anything he said refers to my posts.

I'll wait.

Edit.

Still waiting.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
You will be waiting a while, because you, like Tomatoes, have been deemed unworthy of my attention.
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
As I thought.

Thanks for your time, oh great Bamf Dev.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
You can throw my title at me all I want. but at least I am not like you, twisting people's words. Nor am I like Tomatoes, who is trolling and hating on HTC and the DNA without ever having owned it.

It isn't worth my time (or anyone else's) to discuss things further with you because you two are here to merely cause trouble.
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
As I said to you previously. Thanks for your time. If you aren't going to do what I requested.. Please stop interacting with me. You said I wasn't worth speaking to yesterday so I stopped engaging with you. Said I'm here to only argue for the sake of arguing. Don't do me any favors by continuing to converse with me. As far as I know.. Once I was accused of being a troll I dropped it period.
[HTC Droid DNA] crossmission:
wtf but who cares the butterflies brought us spring

seriously?

anyway, I guess some of us european guys are leaving this forum :(

looky looky :D

http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-butterfly/#specs

this is the EU version and it says "sd card slot" :fingers-crossed:

so actually it's the J Butterfly without the waterproofing :(

that's a bumper but anyway