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[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekguy:
Re: [Q] Switch between CM10 and CM7 backups

Suppose you're on cm10 and wish to downgrade. I've assumed all backups have been taken before. Convert to ext3, flash wiper script (ext3), restore system, reboot, wipe data+cache and then restore. Try this and see if there's any change. Procedure for cm10 will be flash wiper script (ext3), wipe cache, restore system, reboot, convert to ext4, wipe data, restore data and reboot. Give it a try
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] measel:
will try. I hoped for a simple and quick one click solution because I have to switch quite often and would like to leave my phone unattended while switching.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] delight535:
I think this is a common bug, that SD card is not mounted automatically. Try these steps:

Mount and storage, mount sd card.

Then: format to ext3.

Then restore your nandroid backup.

(so far do not wipe anything)

Restart, boot into rom.

Restart, go to recovery, wipe cache, dalvik, and maybe battery stats too.

I think this way you can change from CM10 to CM7 easily.
[Motorola Photon 4G] fabe0334:
Hey guys, I'm not new to rooting or flashing ROM's but I've encountered some issues. Basically, I was on an early JB Rom and everything was working fine but it mostly was in roaming and would go from 2-4 signal bars.

I backed up and have attempted to flash:

PACman

MIUI 2.11.23

As well as CM10 by joker and AOKP CM 10.

Every flash I end up with no signal bars and no roaming, also following all install instructions in the threads.

I have tried flashing with and without prop tweak, i have even restored the backup all with the same results:

Empty signal bars, occasional R for roaming, every call says mobile network unavailable.

I have also fixed permissions, and have tried to flash via TH3Bill CWM and TWRP recovery... what am I doing wrong? The backup isin't even working!
[Motorola Photon 4G] Bock Abrams:
I wouldn't know off hand, but here's something you can try while waiting for a more professional member to come to the rescue.

System Settings> More>Mobile Networks>System select>Home only

What's your current PRL, APNs?
[Motorola Photon 4G] foxsdaddy67:
if it was me I'd sbf back to stock and see if I had signal then go back and try a custom rom again
[Motorola Photon 4G] stonesaber:
Before sbf'ing if you have a back up of your stock ROM or any ROM that has the update profile/prl setting in it, restore that back up and try updating your profile/prl then wipe/flash your new ROM.

I usually have this problem when I switch back to my Photon from my ET4G, but updating the profile usually does the trick.
[Motorola Photon 4G] fabe0334:
When I restored my old backup, I had the same problem. The only fix I could find was on MIUI and selecting automatic netowrk before flashing options chooser. Any other rom would make no changes on automatic or home only. I am going to try a fresh install and if no luck will sbf today. I'll keep you guys posted.

Thanks!

**EDIT** Does it matter if I use Th3Bill's CWM recovery or TWRP? I have tried both with similar results. I jut noticed CWM is usually posted with the ROM builds... does it makes a difference? If so, what should I use?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Bock Abrams:
Normally both work just fine, as long as you're using one of those two

I spent too much time flashing roms and wondering why they wouldn't work right, when I was using the stock CWM

I think It's just my opinion but I have preference for bill's cwm
[Motorola Photon 4G] DethMetalz69:
Having this exact same problem. Did anyone figure it out?
[Motorola Photon 4G] RighteousSlayer:
No Radio/Signal

I recently flashed the latest MIUI.US V5 3.4.5 for the Photon provided by Th3Bill. I am familiar with the process of applying ROMs. I tried to go back to Beanstalk, JB, and ICS and could not recover the radio signal. I even restored a few backups with the same result, no signal. I flashed the MIUI V5 3.4.5 ROM back to the Photon and it worked flawlessly. Can anyone please help? I would really like to get off the MIUI ROM, it does not appeal to me like the standard versions of Jelly Bean that Th3Bill has produced.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
I recently got myself a Nexus 4, my first Android phone, and had been using it as my main phone for the past five days. I come from the iOS world (keen jailbreaker) and my initial reactions were very positive:

Love widgets and how convenient they can be

Love the extent of customisation

Love the big screen and clean UI in general

Love the hardware (camera and speed)

Love Google service integration (maps, contact, calendar) = just works

However, there is one aspect that really bothers me and I wanted to hear what other people think.

APPS.

iOS apps are often more polished than their Android equivalent, in another word they contain less bugs. I find Android apps crash more often and some of the functions don’t always work. Example: I found a bug in Skype that the ringing tone continues to sound even after the call is connected. Skype has been around for so many years and yet there is a bug?

.

Android don’t always get the newest or most updated apps because it is easier for developers to create apps on iOS. This can lead to some core function of an apps missing compare to their equivalent on iOS. Example: I have a Synology NAS at home that acts as my media hub, which can be remotely accessed by Synology-made streaming apps on the iOS. On Android, the video app isn’t available and the music app is very buggy and lacks some very core functions.

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Due to the ever increasing range of Android devices, that is at a pace faster than iOS devices, I feel there is a greater chance of an Android device becoming unsupported by an app than an iOS device. This means potentially one has to upgrade to a new Android device sooner than they can afford or wish to.

.

There is a greater range of apps, including games, on iOS. Example: I really would like a decent photo editing app, such as Snapseed, on my Android but can’t seem to find one that I like. Official Simplenotes app is also unavailable on Android.

I suspect the defragmentation of the Android ecosystem is, in part, responsible for the problems I mentioned and it’s something I don’t see Google can do much about anytime soon. Therefore, in my mind, the situation is likely to remain the same for a while which makes Android less appealing to me. Understandably, it is a complex and widespread issue that is inherent in the Android world.

Sorry about my boring post but I have two days left to refund my Nexus 4. Should I keep it or refund it? :confused:

Thanks guys :cool:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dankoman:
Sure, it's easy to develop a "polished" app with no bugs when your consumer audience is using a handful of IOS-based devices. The reason Android apps SEEM more buggy is that there are hundreds of different devices that use the Android OS. Problems are going to arise due to differences in hardware, but a good developer nails these problems and their app will evolve into a polished, bug-free work of art.

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To answer your question, though, you should keep it. There's not a WHOLE lot going on with the nexus yet because of availability issues, but bugs will be squashed. Have patience. As more devs get their hands on it, it will get a lot better.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hashibahoohaa:
Refund it - that is one more device available for us on the play store ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwahchees:
I won't tell you that you're a fan boy, or that you're stupid for thinking the way you do. It's clear.

Ask yourself this: are apps what you need to make your phone productive and useful?

I asked myself this question and found out, no. I use core apps like chrome, power amp, twitter and they're all well polished apps.

The freedom of the OS matters more to me than the apps, then again android apps are that bad.

Good luck :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweaked:
Return it. You want to just use the phone, as a phone.

ios is for you.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dmwitz:
Photo apps

Here comes a list of photo apps I hope you will like. I have them all installed on my Note 2 and am often forced to use more than one of them to get the results i wish. This does not however bother me. Nor does it bother me that some cost over a whole $1 to buy.

PicsPlayPro + great for making basic adjustments - no sharpness or fine rotation

Pixlr - this is brand new and very promising. Has both fine rotation and sharpness - no historgram or curves like PicsPlayPro

TouchRetouch +fantastic at removing annoying objects or people from plain backgrounds - you must know it's limits

Afterfocus + the best I know of for getting that shallow portrait depth of field.

Aviary

SketchBookPro - this is more of an art program but you can import pictures add layers, text and paint to retouch. - you need the S-Pen

PicSayPro: lots of gimmicky filters and effect +++layer masks!!

The following are a collection that are both camera and filters or just cameras

Vignette

LittlePhoto

MagicHour

HDRPro ProHDR? +++very good for landscapes, interior architecture -don't try photo people

Picturesque + some amazing effects can be achieved with this app. Check out #picturesque on Instagram

Lastly Cymera needs to be mention for its 5 different cameras, its fun filters

Hope this helps. Welcome to android.

Oh, I almost forgot my favourite camera FV-5. Silly name great camera.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idividebyzero:
I would never get an Android tablet because of the lack of premium quality apps. I would want apps like Garage Band which Android has nothing remotely close to. Like on a PC the app selection for a tablet is the most important aspect of the device, and iOS crushes Android in that department.

I can live with the limited premium app selection for a phone because I dont use my phone as a computer or for doing serious tasks.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
After some thoughts and insightful opinions from other android users - I have decided to keep the device. You are right, the availability is an issue at the moment and I believe android apps are only going to be come more polished as time pasts.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
You've made some very good points and I seemed to have forgotten the key here is how I intend to use the device. All the core apps I use are all very polished on Android and, in fact, I like them more than on iOS because of all the available customization options. iOS at the moment has no jailbreak for many of their new devices and I foresee jailbreaking becoming more and more difficult. I enjoy the freedom on Android. Thanks for your advice :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
WOW! THANK YOU! That has saved me so much time and they all look very intriguing! One of the positive things about Android is that there seems to always be a lite version to try out before one decides to upgrade to the full version. I may be wrong with what I said earlier about couldn't find a good photo editing app. Again, much appreciated for your recommendations :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
I know what you mean - i got an ipad and that is what I use if there is an iOS app that I really want to try out. Its very hard to give up ios completely.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
After reading the responses I got from this thread, I have decided not to return my N4. Here goes why:

None of the android apps is buggy to the extent that they are unusable. I suspect since JB has only just been released, bugs will be ironed out gradually. Android apps may not have all the functions as their iOS equivalent but the missing functions are not absolutely vital to me. There are usually some work around for the missing feature, such as use another app or just simply use a laptop. Many of the core apps I regularly use on my phone are polished on Android. In fact, I actually prefer the experience of these core apps on Android more than on iOS. The amount of tweaking I can do is simply too much to give up after having enjoyed the freedom of doing so. When I first unzipped a file on the N4, oh my, I was like “sweet!”.

I had forgotten that the key to my choice between iOS and Android was how I intended to use my phone. Having recognized this the choice between the two systems was an easy one - Android was clearly better (for me):

gmail and youtube apps were both better

video playback supported more format

reading experience was amazing thanks to the amazing screen

web browsing was wayyyyy smoother

apps were better integrated into each other

Looks like the N4 is here to stay :D

Thanks everyone for your input!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wngmv:
I am exactly the opposite. I can't really do anything on iPad since what I do need jailbreak at least. I need a Tab that could run Linux, or access one. I'm waiting for the day it comes to some Android Tablet and then buy 1. I now have an iPad that is sitting somewhere. Ever since I received my Nexus 4 I have never touched the iPad again. I don't have an Android tab to compare, but my friend's tab are pretty bland. It's pretty much a blown up version of the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
You can run Ubuntu on N7.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elliot.newnham:
I would defiantly agree with you. iOS apps are more polished on the whole. While this isn't 100% true, I feel like many apps on iOS are more trustworthy and more likely to just work. Android on the other hand you have to filter through a ton of crap...

But then a polished Android app is just as functional as a polished iOS app. There is no reason why a well made app for iOS would be better than a well made Android app.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Acuity:
I think you feel this way because you come from the Apple ecosystem. As a quick and dirty Apple developer I find myself getting increasingly frustrated with our newer OS updates breaking things. Even pulling sysinfo seems to be different with every OS they release.

Google as well as their app developers are both well aware that most of the android community is still running on Gingerbread, so I don't think you'll see your Nexus 4 go out of style anytime soon. Keep in mind that you also have a Nexus device, and will in all likeliness be one of the first to taste Key Lime Pie whenever it's released.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wngmv:
I know. Thats why i said that. Wait until the day you can run Ubuntu on iPad.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
I must have misunderstood your post. It seemed like you were waiting for Ubuntu to come to an android tab from the way you worded it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
You chose well. I had every iPhone from the original to the 4s and I do agree with you that apps seem more polished, but that's not everything. I've actually read articles where iOS apps crash more than android, but apple's way of programming will hold a still of the last image on the screen until the app restarts, all without the user knowing... Now, I have no proof of this, it's just something I read.

As for android, there's just more that can be done even without rooting. I was so tired of the jailbreak cat and mouse game with apple, but everything that I couldn't get on iOS, is all right there on android.

My last point in beating this dead horse I'd that this entire response was easily written by using Google's stock swiping keyboard! Nothing like that with apple....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
I consider myself lucky to have a jail broken ipad 3. Jailbreak is declining and it's a pity.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
Couldn't agree with you more. The ever increasing difficulty in creating a jailbreak for ios devices was the trigger for my decision to switch.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phermey:
i am glad you decided to keep the nexus. you made the rigth decision. i will say though, that your post went from questions to not really asking questions... and passing blame towards things that you really dont understand. i am also happy to see that your are old enough to bypass the smart ass responses from the kids that have no clue what its like to be in your shoes.

as far as skype is concerned. use google talk. get your friends on google talk. its much easier, simpler, and better integrated.

android apps update all of the time. i have probably fifteen or twenty play store apps and on average... all of them update once or twice a month. if you are missing features, odds are it is because the developer was too lazy to implement them on android. but at some point in time... it probably will be. possibly even updated with things that arent on the ios equivalent until they update on ios. thats kind of how it works. and then again... kinda not.

as far as crap apps and such. its pretty easy to filter through the crap. the same is prevalent on ios. especially if you use cydia. just be mindful of free games and watch for the 'full internet access' permission. if its an app that in no way needs the internet... its most likely just to give you ads.and you will always be able to find that app that doesnt ask for permissions. any reputable app will tell you in the description why it asks for certain permissions.

your support issues arent warranted. its something that ios users talk about in order to put down android. just use your phone as you always and enjoy it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
It's funny. Few weeks ago I was complaining about how my favourite photo editor was not available on Android, today it did - Snapseed. couldn't be happier.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] germanj:
Speaking of which, Camera+ is about the only app I miss from iOS.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madkel:
You are lucky... I have an iPad 3 and can't jailbreak it due to being on 6.0.1. I got it as a gift but would much rather have an Android tablet. I hate the hoops that Apple forces me to go through in order to get my non-jailbroken iPad to work smoothly with my PC and RAZR HD (e.g., non-Apple products)...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IAIRonI:
Why not sell your iPad and buy an Android tablet...probably have money left over as well
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levi-17:
Some iOS apps are good and some android apps are good. There are great apps on both sides of the fence :D

I can only think of one reason why iOS developers aren't running over to android to make apps, is because of piracy and how easy it is to get hold of a paid app online.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morejaylesswar:
I haven't read anything in this thread besides the OP.

But, I was just thinking about this the other day. I was even talking to a friend about it. I'm fairly new to Android, as you can tell by my sig. I've been using iOS forever and I will say this: Out of the apps that I use often, I prefer them on iOS vs Android. They just seem a bit better. I love how Twitter has an in-app-browser on iOS that lets me stay within the Twitter app and even easily tweet the page that I was just on by clicking the "new tweet" button. I like that I can long press on any tweet to copy it if I want to retweet it with my own comment.

The same goes for the idiosyncratic operations of Instagram on iOS. I'm very active on my social networks, so the ability to swipe and reply makes it easy for and quick for me to reply to people who are commenting on my photos and whatnot. I don't have to type their names in. Once I start using these social media accounts as a tool for marketing, I'm pretty sure I'll do it more on my iOS device because of the ease of use when it comes to the features that I want out of my device.

Don't even get my started on Tumblr for iOS vs. Android.

I also think that the new GMail update is even better on iOS. Like, man, that's a let down because I was expecting Android's Gmail to outshine iOS in everywhere. While the operations are the same and Android wins with the swipe to archive, iOS just looks way more aesthetically appealing. The attention to detail and the sidebar is PHENOMENAL.

I use my android device more than my iPhone, but I wish I didn't have to feel like I was compromising so much to do so.

That's just my opinion, though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calanizzle:
Twitter in-app brower = plume
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morejaylesswar:
The same friend that I was talking to about this mentioned Plume. I'm going to download it. The only reason I stick with the Twitter for Android/iPhone app is because of the aesthetics of them.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solutions Etcetera:
A big reason iOS apps are better is a double edged sword: Apple examines and approves all apps, and for the most part are keen on them taking advantage of the feature set of the most up to date OS and interface guidelines. Of course the other side is Apple that disapproves what they don't want you to have (for whatever reason, good or bad).

What is most frustrating for me are missing features. Even some of Googles core apps have inexplicably missing features that simply makes them feel unfinished.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calanizzle:
Several iOS apps "look" better, but that doesn't mean they perform better or worse than Android apps. I feel somewhat "jealous" of iOS since they get first cool apps (for whatever reason), apart from this, nothing beats Android.

iOS = people that like high-end devices that are easy to use.

Android = people that like high-end devices that are easy to use + extra customization (performance and looks).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] molesarecoming:
im simply blown away by iOS apps. dont like the iphone and the os, but apps are done with so much care and love for detail. android is getting there, more and more apps are coming in our way but its still far off.

i dont think it has anything to do with fragmentation in the way you mean it - its more of a fragmentation of care and care not. look at nexus, who buys it. 10? 20? next to 1000000000000000000000000000000 touchwizz lovers who dont mind how android looks and feels. most of them simply dont know it, havent seen it. they are like pc buyers that shop for stats and chipsets. obviously they are content with crappy looking apps, because their os looks crappy and this of course has a direct bearing on the eco-system overall. but in this aspect aswell, its getting there. nexus 4, 7 and 10 did great - although the android community's still bashing it, which is a long tradition.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solutions Etcetera:
I disagree with this for the most part. Certainly not all, but most apps perform better on iOS for one simple reason... The OS is optimized to the hardware - and vice versa, as well as the development environment and compiler. Because of this Apple is able to do more with less.

If you look closely at apps like Garageband, iMovie, and Keynote for instance, you'll see a level of sophistication and performance I have yet to see on the Android platform. The OS and hardware were both rev'd to support these apps, as was the dev environment. With this kind of synergy, Apple indeed has the upper hand, but not all apps (or even devs) have the keys to all of the magic. There are many private API's developers are not allowed to use.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DonDizzurp:
app store is a lot more strict on what it lets in than the play store

plus android is open source so anyone can start developing something and put it out

iphone apps are a lot more.. "professional" looking.

but androids getting there
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
Android will grow on you. Give it time. For me, I don't miss iPhone a single bit to be honest but this is probably because I have an ipad when i needed a dose of iOS.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hankdu:
Completely agree and thats what I say to people when choosing between the two.