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[Nexus 10 General] jonstrong:
A few extra data points from reviews of the Nexus 10, and their assessment of its place among 10" Android tablets:

The Guardian

"The Nexus 10 is the best 10in Android tablet available"

Android Community

"...we have no doubt this is the best 10-inch tablet experience. Period!"

TechCrunch

"Do you want to wait for another 10-inch tablet with Android? Maybe, but it’s not going to get better than this until Google wises up and starts making its own hardware."

UberGizmo

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/11/google-nexus-10-review/

"With the Google Nexus 10, Google and Samsung have managed to come up with a technological wonder. Google has made the right calls in term of aesthetics and industrial design, while Samsung was able to bring the best hardware to the game. The display is beautiful and the system has enough muscles to handle any media you throw at it.

The most surprising aspect of the Google Nexus 10 is the price: At $399 (16GB, WiFi), the Google Nexus 10 is significantly cheaper than Apple’s iPad 4 which beats it only in polygonal graphics. This is a very aggressive pricing, especially if you think that this powerful tablet costs a mere $70 more than the iPad mini which is far less potent.

If you want a tablet for basic things like email, web, gaming and apps, this is the best option for now. It is both cheaper and better than most of the competition. There are a few exceptions: if you want a stylus, the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 is a better alternative, and if you need Microsoft Office compatibility, the Microsoft Surface RT would be better. Unless you absolutely want iOS, there is simply no compelling reason to pay $100 more for an iPad. If you do, well… it’s settled."

Gizmodo

"We can concretely say that it's the best full-sized Android tablet experience we've had"

CNET UK

"the Nexus 10 cleanly beats all its Android rivals."

Android Central

"The Nexus 10 is the best 10-inch Android tablet, period."

PocketNow

"If you’re in the market for a 10-inch tablet, this is the one for you!"

Expert Reviews

"A brilliant tablet with a wonderful screen and an even more wonderful price."

Digital Trends

"...the Google Nexus 10 is the best 10.1-inch Android tablet we’ve ever used."

PC Pro (UK)

"...this is now the benchmark 10in Android tablet.

CNET

"...for those looking for an alternative to Apple's much more constrained OS, Google provides what's arguably the best one yet."

V3.co.uk

"...the Nexus 10 is the best Android tablet currently available."
[Nexus 10 General] xIC-MACIx:
@pierrekid. - Idk why but CNET, tech radar, and extreme tech links are broken..might be just me.

I read through the links that did work, and I will say, the reviews tend to side w/ the tf700.

So, I essentially picked out the reasons why reviewers chose the way they did:

- Front/back camera - while the front's 0.1MP difference gives Asus the edge, I think we can agree that whether its 1.9 or 2MP; both fail to offer real clarity in everyday use. As for back cameras, I honestly wish my N10 & tf700 didn't have them at all...I have a phone for this & don't plan on whipping out a tablet to snap a photo. Lol

- Storage - IMO, its strange that ppl are still undecided on cloud storage. Story time: I went with a few friends to Florida over the summer. When it came time to figure out how we would distribute the pictures, I suggested Dropbox. Instead...our families spent over a week passing around a jump drive w/ the pictures...). My point is, while expandable mem. is nice, I decided that cloud storage is the future, especially when your precious 32GB microSD is forever lost due to your tablet's tendency to randomly slingshot it without you noticing (not pointing fingers here...) Ultimately, its a personal preference, but a reoccurring trend is to leave this option off the spec sheet, soon this argument will be useless.

- Brightness - SuperIPS is great, especially outdoors. The thing is, I prefer to keep my $500 investment safe from concrete jungles. ( Seriously though, that might be Asus' biggest feature)

- Performance - (I feel this is the N10's best feature) The tf700 is great for gaming, but when it comes to everyday use, my N10 runs fist pumping circles around the tf700. I'll chalk that one up to Nvidia's "ninja core"... fail.

Accessories - It is very difficult to look past the keyboard. It is a killer accessory to have w/ a tablet. My only complaints: not worth $150 and who the HELL can actually type on that thing?

I can go on, but this post is getting lengthy. You might notice that many of the above points I make, are personal opinions...surprised? These reviewers, Android customers, and prospective consumers all come to a conclusion based on their own personal opinions.

Yes, you might have found some great reviews, but you must also consider that the tf700 has had 4-5 months to mature on the market, "settle in" if you will.

This argument is not yet ready for the aggressively typed responses you see above...It's all fun and games until someone breaks a key :)

LINKS worth viewing:

http://www.android.gs/google-nexus-...ote-10-1-vs-asus-transformer-infinity-tf700t/

http://sortable.com/tablets/Google-Nexus-10-vs-Asus-Transformer-Infinity
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
Not directly related to this thread, but I found the N10's camera pretty amazing :) As to why most people don't seem to enjoy the idea of taking pictures with a tablet... I don't understand why lol. You get a large screen, with high resolution, and can essentially see what you take a picture of in it's entirety (I think 5MP = the res of a N10, or close to it anyway). Then you have something like a Nexus 4 with a 8MP camera, which, while better, your not fitting the resolution of 8MP on the N4's screen.

While I guess it is personal preference, I don't see any issue with snapping photos with a Nexus 10 (or any tablet). I think it even looks cooler then taking pictures with some tiny phone :p
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'll give you and anyone else here a "better device for

you

." After all you're the one that has to live with it.

These are the pros I see for the Infinity:

It's nicely designed and the aluminum back looks and feels premium.

The optional keyboard dock is a unique feature and also extends battery life.

It's one of three Android tablets that has a FHD display.

Asus is fast for point and version OS updates.

The Super IPS feature makes it great for use outdoors.

It has a full suite of ports and expandable storage.

These are the cons:

Even people that "have a good one" may have gone through multiple exchanges to get it because of Asus' now legendary build and QC issues.

Teg3 is a 40nm A9 chip that's at the end of its lifecycle and isn't as efficient as newer 28/32nm chips.

The GPU is taxed by the resolution of a FHD display and only excels at vector graphics (games) and does poorly at shading (everything else).

The AzureWave Wi-Fi radio is a two year old design, doesn't support 5GHz or channel bonding, and because of Asus' antenna implementation conflicts with BT streams when both are used concurrently.

Stock IO performance precludes doing any background tasks while interacting with apps like the browser or the UI because the NAND's in-built controller gets overwhelmed and turns faster concurrent r/w's in to much slower random r/w's.

The touch controller is undersized for a 10" tablet, the BT 3.0 radio is a year-old model, and so is the GPS module.

Teg3 doesn't support dual-channel memory so while the TF700 uses DDR3 the DDR2 memory in the N10 and Note are actually faster because Exynos 4 and 5 are dual-channel capable.

Both Exynos 4 and 5 also have a dedicated IO controller in-built as part of the SoC.

It has two speakers 1/4" apart and sharing a single output port that is poorly placed on the back of the device.

Asus' warranty support provided by the outsourced service center in TX is abysmal with frequent claims of "customer induced damage" to the point people take pictures of their devices before sending them in.

Build quality out-of-the-box and over time is sketchy with displays coming unseated, the charging port surround warping, and the docking mechanism breaking.

Stock performance is abysmal with horrible scores in Quadrant, AnTuTu and Sunspider mostly due to the IO issues and some due to the GPU being taxed by the display.

So it's cool that you're happy and that others are too. But ignoring or living with deficiencies doesn't make them go away. If the TF700 were $299-349 you could accept quite a few flaws. But at $449-499, especially now that the N10 is out, it's a tough sell no matter how enthusiastic its owners are.
[Nexus 10 General] mrEvotoTab:
smh

LOL, I bought the Asus Infinity and had it for a couple of weeks before the nexus10 came out, I must say nexus 10 is much more stable, nice design on Asus tab though love the metal
[Nexus 10 General] parmend:
I owned the og transformer and the nexus 7 and I will never buy a Asus tablet again. Worst quality control ever.
[Nexus 10 General] jjdevega:
I can finally admit that I was in denial when I had the Infinity. I wanted to love it so badly! Though it worked fine it would give me some annoyances like at times I would get BT audio sync lag while streaming which included lots of buffering. I couldn't multitask like I wanted and I constantly reached my limit on available memory which affected the performance on everything. The Infinity would have been a keeper.... just had too many problems which caused way too much stress to maintain. I do miss the keyboard dock goodness though.
[Nexus 10 General] iheartandroi:
Very good post. Although none of them actually directly compared the inifinity. They just said this is best android tablet. No direct comparison which is unfair. I think that is what PK is trying to get at. If you actually compare the two side by side, the infinity is the better tablet. You should probably find one that compare the 2 directly, not ones that just make general statements. Great post though!
[Nexus 10 General] jonstrong:
Thanks... From a pure logic perspective, if:

1) the Infinity is a 10" android tablet

and

2) the reviewers stated that the Nexus 10 is the best 10" android tablet

Then the conclusion can only be one of:

The reviewer was lying or mistaken

The reviewer felt that the Nexus 10 is better than the Infinity

In the end, each buyer has to make their own decision. Hopefully most will read the kinds of reviews linked in this thread, as well as comments in this and the TF700 forum, and be in a position to make a better informed decision.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
How much time do you think reviewers spend on each device they cover? Especially the light weight sites that don't do extensive standardized benchmarking? I'm guessing five to eight hours tops. The devices their sent are also screened by the PR department before being shipped to make sure their as defect free as possible. Some of the flaws we're discussing wouldn't be caught with such brief hands-on time. Here's some excerpts.

For the first time, in our Nexus 7 review, I started seriously looking at integrated storage performance of tablets and smartphones. I've casually done this in the past, but users complaining of poor system responsiveness with background writes on ASUS' Transformer Prime/Pad series demanded something a little more thorough.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6130/the-16gb-nexus-7-storage-performance​

It's not an easy thing to admit because we do spend a lot of time reviewing these devices, but GPS reception is something I missed. I was so focused on power consumption and the WiFi issues that thinking to test GPS on the Prime simply slipped my mind. Had I tested it originally we could have brought the problem to light sooner and perhaps saved everyone a lot of trouble. This is the perfect example of why we spend so much time testing nearly everything we review.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5285/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-gps-issue-explained​

And the reverse...

It’s pretty clear that people want their tablets to support pen input — the huge market of iPad styluses is proof positive of that. Samsung’s S Pen system is way ahead of the curve in that regard: it’s responsive, it’s precise, and it works well enough, most of the time.

But a pretty good pen system built on top of a disappointing Android tablet still makes for a disappointing Android tablet. There’s just no reason to suffer through it: the Nexus 7 costs less than half as much as the Note and is without question the best Android tablet available. The iPad costs the same $499 and offers an unrivaled selection of apps, an industry-leading display, and so many stylus accessories and note-taking tools that you won’t even remember that the S Pen makes them all look a bit primitive. And a regular notebook and pen do not make blooping sounds at the slightest provocation.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3243546/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review

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I'll take my own determination of a devices strengths and weaknesses by reviewing the posts in their respective forums by owners that actually use them in real world conditions over that of a reviewers admittedly brief evaluation any day.
[Nexus 10 General] johno86:
Pierre falls in the category of non credible. Like I mentioned before, anyone who relies on an outside source to justify their buyers remorse truly doesn't belong here. I really don't understand why people who have returned the N10 stick around just to troll and do anything possible to make the N10 look bad. It's pathetic and not troll worthy.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
I understand your reasoning, but i respectfully disagree. If the reviewer says its the best, that would mean that they should have done a direct comparison between the two. On the reviews you posted, none of them did a comparison, just a review of the N10. Thats the reasons most sites do a review and also a "smackdown" comparison. ON the sites you mentioned, they are just reviews, not comparisons. SO in essence they are making inflated statements without backing it up with comparisons against other tablets in the same class... They only use the spec sheet and compared it to the spec sheet on infinity, which of course is going to make it seem like the "best" tablet out there.
[Nexus 10 General] griffinj:
Dude, does it feel like you're reaching? Because it really seems like it to me.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
No dont feel like im reaching. Just stating my opinion.
[Nexus 10 General] jonstrong:
Pierre, this is really getting silly. Nice that you "respectfully disagree", but that doesn't make your argument valid. For an intro to Deductive Reasoning, please see this page.

When a writer makes a statement to the effect that something is the best among a group of similar items, that is logically the same as stating that it is better than each of the individual items in the group. That's basic logic, even if it doesn't satisfy your particular viewpoint. If, for example, a writer states that the Rolls Royce Ghost is the best Rolls Royce, it isn't also necessary for the writer to compare the Ghost to every other model Rolls Royce -- this one-on-one comparison with each other member of the class "Rolls Royce" is implied by the statement that, "the Rolls Royce Ghost is the best Rolls Royce".

You might choose to conclude that when the 13 articles I cited were each written, the author at places like CNET and Gizmodo didn't know that the Infinity existed, or somehow chose to leave it out of their consideration as a 10" tablet when stating that the Nexus 10 is the best. I'm guessing that's not the case, and I'm also guessing that the author and editors wouldn't be so sloppy as to allow an unqualified superlative such as, "best full size tablet" to be used unless that's exactly what they meant to say. "Best" means "better than all the others".

Again -- as others in the thread have also stated, and as I've stated earlier, reviews are just a few extra data points for me, along with commentary by past and current product owners, and my own research and hands on experience. I don't take these particular reviews as gospel any more than I do with the ones that you cited. They are all just extra sources of information for me to consider. But -- that doesn't change the conclusion that the 13 authors I cited came to, and your personal interpretation of the articles doesn't change the basic rules of formal logic.

I'm done with this, and hoping that we can get back to the idea of sharing useful and supportable information with other forum members, asking and providing fact-based answers to others here. The site is a great resource when it doesn't get bogged down with personal feuds.
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
The Infinity and Nexus 10 both have their advantages and disadvantages, whatever device might be "best" in your opinion doesn't mean it'll also be the best to the next person.

Now if one tablet could do everything (and absolutely everything) better than every other tablet with no disadvantage whatsoever, then maybe it can be crowned "best" imo. But then again, it would be hard for a device to do "everything" better, especially since some things are personal preference (maybe I hate the Infinity purely because it's corners aren't rounded exactly like a Nexus 10; maybe I like the Nexus 10 more because it weighs (an unnoticeable amount) more).

I bought a Nexus 10 because of the A15 processor, and it being a Nexus device. I purchased the "best" device in my opinion, and I'm pretty happy with it :)
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
lol you may believe what you want man, but i have already proven my point. Glad to have had this "debate" with you, and i guess we agree to disagree. Again, you didnt have to respond to my post, i just voiced my opinion. No need to get all emotional and state "im done with this"...just dont respond lol. Good day sir

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Very good post. See this is the kind of response that states an opinion without be rude or calling someone elses opinion stupid, pointless or what ever other adjectives some of you guys come up with. Hope you enjoy your N10 man, we need more posters like you around here...
[Nexus 10 General] iheartandroi:
Second time im saying this, and alot of users on here would agree...you need to chillax man. You are getting way too personal with your comments everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you dont agree, RESPECTFULLY state your opinion and move along, do not insult or be combative man. Honestly you trying to have a screaming/belittling contest....on a forum. PK stated his opinion to the OP, gave facts and moved along. Instead of responding with a respectful counter, you immediately embark on attacking him. RELAX lol. It is possible to respond without being rude to someone.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
No, you haven't. You've totally overlooked some pretty damning facts that show the TF700 has some significant weaknesses with "but the reviewers said." That's the opposite of proving your point. The only point you've made is how important you feel superficial reviews are when compared to material evidence and the experiences of people that actually own the device. From some of the commentary in the last dozen or so posts it would appear quite a few people feel the opposite.
[Nexus 10 General] iheartandroi:
Well i think he's proven his point. SO does the OP. But its fine is you disagree. To each his own...
[Nexus 10 General] Watcher64:
Do you own the N10? If not what are you doing here?

If you own it and hate it, why have you not returned it? And what are you still doing here?

Again, I thought this forum was for , supporting, modding, flashing the Nexus 10 , not for people who have or plan on returning it to break out their soap boxes and complain.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Starting a thread with that title was bound to get the responses it has. With the TF700's long history of documented issues OP and the majority of people here defending it never mentioned one. The three hottest 10" Android tablets available now are the N10, Note 10.1, and TF700. People are cross-shopping all of them. The exception being people that need/want a keyboard are probably set on the TF700. Same thing with the Note 10.1 and its pen. And people who have to have a FHD display are comparing the tablets that offer it. Everyone here is entitled to their opinion including OP who gave his at the start of the thread. But. To paint the TF700 as "perfect" when it's clearly not is misleading people interested in it. The N10 has issues and they've been discussed. At this point in the thread the TF700's have been beaten to death. There's more than enough info for the big boys and girls that are capable of finding XDA to read this thread and draw their own conclusions.

Peace out.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Your post is the first lucid one in quite a few pages. Thanks.

One thing we haven't discussed is maturity (of tablets, not people ;) ). The N10 is the launch platform for a new CPU/GPU, new display technology for Samsung, and a new OS. Asus is nimble and if you've read the story of the birth of the N7 they deserve huge credit for getting it to market as quickly as they did. Samsung's a lumbering giant. There are aspects of the N10 that show that it was rushed; probably to make the holiday shopping season. After the QC on its components get tightened, the assembly tolerances get improved, and the s/w is tweaked through updates the N10 will be a more solid player in a few months. In contrast, the TF700 was basically a gussied up Prime and more mature from the outset. For those with short memories, it's launch s/w was no walk in the park either. Just something to consider when comparing a mature device to a green one.
[Nexus 10 General] xIC-MACIx:
+1

Exactly what I concluded in my post a page or so back! The Nexus 10 hasn't had time to settle and is being compared to a device that has had roughly 4-5 months to stabilize its software and tighten quality control procedures...
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Make that a year. The only technical differences between the TF201 are the FHD display, a later version of Teg3, faster DRAM, and a better forward-facing camera. The rest of the components are carry-over based on the tear downs.
[Nexus 10 General] 404 ERROR:
The resolution isn't stupid. It might seem stupid to us, but they're doing it take a piece of the tablet market. People want numbers, and the best way to sell something is to give them numbers.

It's all marketing, and it works.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
Great response. Again this is a great response WITHOUT insulting other users. Again some of you should learn from this. I was thinking the same thing that the display can't take advantage of anything out or that will be coming out. Its nice, but contrast and brightness are just as important