yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] dclaw_fantum:
Samsung also makes it easier to run custom firmware in their devices. They can push back on the carriers a little harder with the volume of sales they generate. HTC has been a complete push-over since releasing Android phones on Verizon.
[HTC Droid DNA] nitsuj17:
comparing sales numbers on the vzw sgs3 and dna is pointless fwiw though

the sgs3 was the last "flagship" type phone to launch prior to vzw axing your ability to upgrade and keep unlimited data, so you all phones since have had less people wanting to pay full price to upgrade or pull the line swapping stuff to upgrade...as well as you had people upgrade to the sgs3 who wouldnt have otherwise because they wanted to use that last upgrade
[HTC Droid DNA] rajuabju:
very valid point on this.
[HTC Droid DNA] [[ Cold ]]:
to my surprise, i got a DNA on ebay and it came S-OFF :o

it says:

MONARUDO PVT SHIP S-OFF

CID- 11111111

HBOOT-1.33.0001

RADIO-1.00.00.1023_3

OpenDSP-v4.120.240.0920

eMMC-boot

Nov 6 2012, 14:56:02
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
Wow. U got a developer phone. how much did u pay for it? Any screenshots?

RATTLED FROM MY GLOBALIZED HTC DROID DNA WITH TAPATALK 2
[HTC Droid DNA] atishpatel2012:
If its really that easy then why don't they already have it? :p I'm going to be buying a DNA soon (a month from now). You think they will have S-off by then? I want to try some awesome ROMs like CyanogenMod and stuff... :)
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
Maybe........but u can flash roms, and kernels, and mods, with fastboot, and recovery. S-off not needed for that.

Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Don't waste your time, we're stuck with some pretty cruddy roms for the foreseeable future. Get a Note2.

Ya, I'm being sarcastic. As far as S-off, no one knows. As far as roms, check out the Development Section and see if they satisfy your needs. The Note2 has a bunch more development so if that's what you're craving check it out too.
[HTC Droid DNA] atishpatel2012:
Yea, I thought i sensed some sarcasm, but sarcasm over the internet is so much harder to understand. haha.

Well, i don't want to go with Note 2 because i think the DNA's size is already pushing it. I don't want a phablet. I would be super happy with a Nexus 4. However, DNA is best I got on Verizon. DNA is the only quad core on Verizon, right?
[HTC Droid DNA] [[ Cold ]]:
sure, here they are.

I got it on ebay, won a bid
[HTC Droid DNA] idkwhothatis123:
So riddle me this cause I am curious. As the carrier sold handsets are all s-on, there is 0 development for anything requiring s-off. What in gods green earth is the benefit? The only thing s-off gives you at this point is the option to flash a splash screen (which has yet to be figured out how to do). Sure you can flash kernels in recovery but no kernels have the scripting built in for that ability.
[HTC Droid DNA] GLAlbert:
The Note 2 is also a quad-core phone, but it's $100 more with a two year contract if you buy it at a Verizon retail store.
[HTC Droid DNA] zone23:
The script could easily be written into the ROMs to flash the kernel when the ROM is flashed. The actual script to flash a kernel would be in the updater-script not the kernel itself. In my ROMs for example I could include a custom kernel and the WiFi modules so it would be a one stop flash. S-Off really isn't a huge deal but its covenant. I'm using Flash Image GUI and will include it in my ROM it works great and flashing ROM/Recovery is almost painless. Also if the bootloader was unlocked we could flash radios. Flashing radios is nice because some seem to work better than others. We could also flash different/newer PRLs. All around just more to play with.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bsanborn:
The biggest reason I want s-off is it should allow the use of Google Wallet. So dumb the phone has a NFC but at the moment, it can only be used to send files to another NFC device. Verizon should let us use Google Wallet or at least give us the option of an alternative.

My understanding is if we get s-off, we'll be able to bypass the Google Wallet restriction. I wouldn't be so upset if I had an alternative to use, but Verizon doesn't provide one (afaik) and locked us out of Google Wallet.
[HTC Droid DNA] jcpowell:
I have every intention on getting this phone in the coming months and with seeing theam unlimited.io having an s-off tool for the butterfly j sound promising for the DNA but what do I know.
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
We will get it. The j has a sd slot though. This is y they have it already, and we dont. But, im hopeful anyways. The one xl still doesnt have it, most likely because of no sd slot. But we will see.

SENT FROM MY MIKHTC HYBRID POWERED REZ WITH ICS TAPATALK 2

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U one lucky basta$d!!!!! :p thats crazy....i wonder if who u purchased it from, even knew it was s-off.

SENT FROM MY MIKHTC HYBRID POWERED REZ WITH ICS TAPATALK 2
[HTC Droid DNA] KevC90:
New to XDA

But what is s-off, s-on? Every where I go to read about rooting my phone I see this and wonder what it is.
[HTC Droid DNA] Shamrock13:
It allows you to write to system whilst booted. Essentially, we do have a form of S-Off via a kernel made by DSB and Elkay, but if you change kernels at all, you lose writing to system. S-On causes a lot of headaches for devs, and that's essentially why they don't jump on this device and support it right away.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Not really. Were supposed to be able to write to /system while s-on. It was just an error that kept us from doing it.

What s off really lets us do it flash radios, flash boot.img's and recoveries in recovery, change the splash screen, edit the status of out phone(the tampered and relocked crap) etc
[HTC Droid DNA] KevC90:
Thanks for the explanation =]
[HTC Droid DNA] Shamrock13:
OH! Well, then I'm misinformed! My bad! :p

Ignore it! I was wrong! D:
[HTC Droid DNA] KevC90:
Thank you for that. Now I understand what it is.

Lol no worries thanks again though. Now if only I knew how to unlock my phone is order to root it.
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
For reference, we have accomplished S-OFF capabilities for your DNA/DLX/Butterfly device... :)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...06793715.73343.182579981788132&type=1&theater
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Ok well we here at XDA would like a free solution to use ourselves, this shouldn't cost me $45.00 (Paying for s-off is illegitimate in my book)
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
Sure this is understandable and we are working on this as well. For now though, it requires a physical JTAG connection to achieve the modification. Anyhow don't shoot the messenger that delivered the capability by demanding free development... ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] madzozs:
A picture isn't proof anyway. There are dev devices that were shipped with s-off. I can Google a picture of a Ferrari and say it's mine, but it doesn't make it so.
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
Take a moment to Google the name MobileTechVideos, this is not a spoof. Why do you feel I would make this up anyhow?
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
No im not directing anything towards you, i just cant justify paying for that let alone $45.00
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
OK I see. This is the process to be performed at the moment so you can see the justification regarding price. It's quite tedious but nonetheless a great alternative to NO OTHER SOLUTION which is available at the moment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kGIN5ju0vIw

Careful though, this video could be "fake" as mentioned previously regarding the picture posted... ;). Just kidding of course...
[HTC Droid DNA] Argumentation:
When you do this, does it wipe /data like the HTC bootloader unlock, or are you just switching the flag with the JTAG rig?
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Since you guys have to take it apart I understand why you have to charge to do it.
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
Only the flag is changed so it won't WIPE DATA FACTORY RESET like the bootloader unlock does.

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Currently yes. Please note, it is NOT recommended to use methods which short eMMC to ground to achieve S-OFF. Although it will work in most cases, I've received numerous reports of the 2nd or 3rd attempts by my customers in which those methods will kill the eMMC. It's really only safe if proper resistance is used between the ground out. For this reason, our S-OFF attempts are done via JTAG which is 100% safe.
[HTC Droid DNA] scotty1223:
im not sure why youre doubting this. JTAG has been a viable option for a long time,for folks with the knowledge and equipment to do it. ive watched their other videos,and i have no doubt theyre for real.

absolutely. they had to purchase special equipement and gain alot of knowledge to use it. not just anyone can buy a riff box and use it to safely s-off devices. maybe a software only method will pop up,maybe not. i personally am skeptical since the one x has been s on for over a year now. this is a perfectly viable solution for those of us not satisfied with s on unlocked,and willing to chance waiting on a software process that may never come.

i always donate to those who make tools,so i dont mind the cost at all.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
We really only need it to change radios and the tampered display. Otherwise we can already flash roms and kernels. Our current problem with CM and AOKP is cracking RIL and s-off won't help as far as I know.

You guys cracked the RIL?

Kudos getting s-off though :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
If you guys want to get this turned into a more DIY project, get this to the attention of a Droid DNA owner who is an Elite Recognized developer and have them either give me a call or email. I'll work with them to provide S-OFF to the device so they can begin to develop a free solution. I merely ask for full credit in the S-OFF Thread if/when the DIY version is complete... :)
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I certainly have no problem with that.
[HTC Droid DNA] SwordOfWar:
Is the S-off fix permanent? What happens if you need to relock the bootloader and then unlock it again later? Would it revert to S-on then?

The possibility to lose s-off again and the fact I have to send my device away for at least a few days is too much trouble in my opinion, but at least it's an option. I wouldn't mind a CM dev or someone having it to make development easier though.
[HTC Droid DNA] scotty1223:
this process is providing "radio s-off" wich will remain until you purposely turn s on. unlocking or relocking the bootloader,or even flashing a new bootloader,does not affect it.

the device can easily be returned to 100% stock s on,locked if you need to.

i have just orderd the one S service,and am keeping my fingers crossed for tegra 3 support in the future :D
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
We appreciate that. THANKS.
[HTC Droid DNA] revolt1:
where they located at ill take a shot and send it
[HTC Droid DNA] scotty1223:
texas. i assume its ok to link the publicly available shipping instructions ? if not,ill take it down.
[HTC Droid DNA] revolt1:
can you pm me your shop number so I could do a order thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] djsnake210:
I think a great reason for s-off would be to resize the partitions... let's see how much available space is possible. I'm sure it is more than 11gb.
[HTC Droid DNA] Argumentation:
well, /data is about 12gb, /system is about 1.4gb, and /cache is about 800mb, so that's about 14gb, then you factor in filesystems, other partitions I forgot about, and the dalvik cache, and that's about all 16gb right there.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
That too, I'm sure our phones would like a nice spring cleaning.

What is the Nexus' footprint?
[HTC Droid DNA] scotty1223:
You can also order online: http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/htc-droid-dna-dlx-jtag-s-off-modification-service/
[HTC Droid DNA] andrewp3481:
I am thankful for devs that release free exploits. I also buy alot of premium apps to support devs and have donated to devs whose roms I use.

I also feel that if a solution exists for s-off and someone wants to charge...then that's fine too. I'm fine with s-on htcdev unlocked.

Cheers to the guys that have the exploit. I would pay $45 but I don't want my device ripped apart.

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With s-off you would never need to relock. Even to run an ruu...
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
I just want to apologize and say I wans't fully aware of the process of it being more of a hardware mod.

on another note If you have S-OFF you can't simply just lock the bootloader and everything be dandy you need an S-ON tool or else you will have a S-OFF phone with a locked bootloader...
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
No problem at all. I understood you to believe I was simply withholding a single click operation which is not something I would intend to do. I do operate my shop as a full time career but I'm more after the free aspect when it comes to S-OFF. Until that time though, I can offer it to folks as a viable option.

Thanks for the response,

-Josh
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
An s-on tool? fastboot oem writesecureflag 3

lol
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Well see I wasn't aware of a command... None of the other HTC devices Ive came from (OG EVO 4G and EVO 4G LTE) had any body mentioned this before
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
Probably because nobody would want to go back to s-on? :)
[HTC Droid DNA] jc332986:
If I was in Bryan and came by the shop. How long does the process take. I'm in Houston.
[HTC Droid DNA] Zarboz:
I would assume 1-2 hours main wait is the assembly process
[HTC Droid DNA] cmfx:
I don't really see the need for s off at this point. It seems more like a convenience that isn't worth the money from that site.
[HTC Droid DNA] MicroMod777:
Paying for s-off is crazy. That be like charging for custom roms. Maybe xda should charge $20 subscription to post! Lol
[HTC Droid DNA] scotty1223:
It's not crazy at all,IMO. Do you understand the process he's using? Why should he donate his time for free,especially for ungreatful folks that seem.to think Rom devs owe them something. This is a hardware hack that requires complete disasembly of your phone. its not like he plugs it in and runs a program. There is not a software hack,and despite the man's willingness to work with devs to find one,there may not ever be one.

I've donated to the creators of every s off tool I've used. I do donate on occasion to my favorite Rom devs,and I always buy the paid versions of apps I truly enjoy.

Remember no one here is paid for what they do.

A lot of folks don't need s off and that's cool. Enjoy your phones as-is. I do completely respect that you don't wanna pay and/or don't want to be without your device for a few days. But I'm getting sick of seein ungreatful people criticize someone for stepping up and offering a unique service(remember he can also unbrick your device so you dont need to fraud vzw into sending you a new one when you eff it up) to wich there is currently not an alternative.
[HTC Droid DNA] BBEgo:
I agree wholeheartedly with scotty. It's one thing to download an app, or even a Rom for free. But criticising someone for expecting compensation for providing a service no one else can do, that also includes physical labor?

Man, this 'something-for-nothing' generation just blows me away sometimes. It's like, why do anything innovative or creative when the best you can hope for is to be credited in some thread that's gonna be forgotten in 6 months?

Lots of devs write ROMs, and that's cool. They use them, too, and generous users donate. There are a lot of choices, and you donate to your favorite(s). Awesome.

But when one guy says he's got this method to get us something we all want real bad, and he's the only one who can currently do it, and it requires him to actually disassemble the phone himself, how can you think he should just donate his time and share his innovations with the world for nothing?

No, that's not how the world works.
[HTC Droid DNA] sn1p3r6992:
It sure would be nice to get s-off for free ;) but you are exactly right. I would never expect to send my phone to someone and expect them to do physical work for free. But I do have a question. Since(and I may be wrong here) none of the developers are using s-off phones, does that mean that it wouldn't really make a difference to get s-off? More or less would I just be able to flash the kernel modules to my phone in recovery without the boot.img's and the same with roms? What benefit would it really have if s-off isn't "required" by the current development?
[HTC Droid DNA] munchy_cool:
the only advantage of S-off IMHO is you can build the kernel and modules into the flashable zip and you do not need to flash the kernel separately using fastboot or the app which does it. This is from an end users point of view.

Now sure how s-off helps devs while building roms and flashable zips. maybe a dev can pitch in about the same.
[HTC Droid DNA] BBEgo:
With S-off, you can flash radios and HBoots, too, even if you're going back to an older version.

Sent from my HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] scotty1223:
for the user, s off is not a neccesity,but a priveldge.

i personally love s off because it has:

a recovery that can install kernels without other apps,a PC,or other trickery

the ability to change other partitions than boot,system,and recovery. namely splash image,and radios/firmware. if you desire a new radio/firmware set while s on,youll have to make a backup, relock,run a full,signed ruu or signed firmware package,re-unlock,restore a backup. thats a lot of work compared to a file you used to be able to install in hboot/fastboot.

the ability to go backwards in software/firmware. dont like the newest leak? or the newest radios you jumped thru several hoops to get? to bad... with htcdev youre stuck. being able to install older RUUs can also be the difference between a working device and a pernament softbrick in some situations.

the ability to flash unsigned files(such as radios and firmware)

the ability to flash signed,or unsigned packages without haveing to relock

the ability to install recoveries,etc. without having to unlock :p

the ability to run an unsigned hboot,wich could be a patched,or ENG signed factory hboot

the ability to easily change CID,tho in aLL fairness this isnt too big a deal with DNA,as the only RUUs are vzw.

the ability to get rid of your relocked watermark if you ever need to warranty the phone :smokingsomb:

those last 2,are pretty important,as you can easily get back to 100% stock,locked,s-on,vzw CID for factory warranty. especially if you paid outright for the phone becasue you were out of upgrades,or wanted to save your grandfathered unlimited data. :)

wether or not it helps in rom development,i cant say,but i wouldnt thnk it would that much.
[HTC Droid DNA] connexion2005:
Perhaps you didn't see the ads XDA utilizes here on every page of the site? I've donated 2 S-OFF's to the guys at Droid-Hive to help with a free script based version of this as well by the way.
[HTC Droid DNA] MicroMod777:
For a dev, s-off is useless unless everybody has it. With paying for it only an elite few can benefit from it for flashing custom kernels built into the Rom.

I understand the process is too complex to do for the masses if u have to rip apart ur phone to do.

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I've donated many times also to others here on xda. Nothing wrong with donating.
[HTC Droid DNA] mrjayviper:
cheap cheap cheap

they don't just wave a magic wand and then you get s-off...
[HTC Droid DNA] dr_drache:
Actually we just did...
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Now we can flash the new radio without locking, ruu, update via OTA, and unlock.
[HTC Droid DNA] del9800:
That's to late for me... :banghead:

Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Droid DNA] RussianBear:
S-off is near: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1654238
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I'm glad this is coming out after the update so HTC can't patch it.
[HTC Droid DNA] Upstreammiami:
Google is open source? They don't change is for using there ****
[HTC Droid DNA] mrjayviper:
it's a hardware solution if you bothered to read... unless reading is not one of your forte? and even if it's software (much like the many many PAID apps on the playstore), somebody has to spend time on it. Lots do it for free but doesn't mean it's bad if someone charges for it considering they spent their own time doing it. and s-off has nothing to do with google?
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
Maybe not quickly, but beaups said it would take HTC all of 12 seconds to patch the exploit he found. After you get your phone s-off'd, don't ever accept an OTA (standard modding rule.)
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
We got the updated radio,that's all I care about.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] marinalin85:
Hello guys!

I've been trying for several days to theme Contacts.apk.

I've tried so hard to bring ICS look to Galaxy Y, and now I'm stuck at Contacts.apk

Can someone help me, please?

This how it looks so far:

This how CM7 Contacts looks:

See that Dial/Send SMS buttons look in mine and how looks in CM7?

I want that action button to look exactly as CM7. So I want from this:

--to this:

If someone know how to do it, please, but please tell me how to.

Thank you and have a nice day!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] marinalin85:
Really no one? :-S
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] tentenponce:
Newbie here

Sir, I want to help even I dont know much about making Y to ICS. xD

Compare the contacts.apk(You have) to the contacts.apk(You want). go to layout folder and open the xml that was near to your problem sir, example, list_contacts.xml, detail_list_contacts.xml something like that sir.

Sorry for my english and if this thing doesnt help. xD
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenmai9:
So I made a NANDROID backup (SmoothROM 4.1, 4.1.2), flashed a new ROM (4.2), didn't like it so I restored my backup and now my file structure looks like this:

/f.cl.ly/items/0R0R3n3i0U3c401w3j18/Screen%20Shot%202012-11-27%20at%207.08.06%20PM.png

(remove the first / to see image)

So the folders in 0 were my correct folders before I restored it, and now it looks like this. Does anyone know why this is like this? And how I can fix it?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheAtheistReverend:
The 0 is added apparently when making backups (I don't yet know why), but they are all symlinks to the same thing (sd/emulated). There are a couple threads in the QnA about this, but no good comprehensive noob friendly explanations that I have found yet.

I hope someone will chime in with a more complete/correct answer. I would like to know quite a bit more about all this.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
It has to do with the user, since multi-user support is now available, say you have two user accounts for your tablet. User 1 would have their own location (/sdcard/0) and User 2 would have their own location (/sdcard/1). That's how I understand it. If incorrect, please someone let me know.

Make sure you are using the latest TWRP or CWM Recovery versions, as I believe that they deal with this issue.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheAtheistReverend:
So, when copying files from pc to N7, what directory do I want to paste them in for a one-user tablet?

Can we delete the "0" sub-folders made by backups? How do we clean up the system if it keeps making redundant links? There has to be a point where it is unnecessary/ a mistake.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenmai9:
So if I go back to 4.1 since I don't have multi-user support how can I get my default files back to the /0 folder? Because my new system is creating files in my root folder, not the 0 folder which I would rather use. Is there another way besides manually doing it (seemingly the most likely solution).