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[HTC Droid DNA] bwhite757:
I also have both the Note 2 on AT&T (work phone) and the DNA. I had the SGS3 prior to the DNA and can say that everyone will have their own opinion. But the biggest downside for me on the SGS3 was signal quality!!!! I dropped so many calls at my house with that phone. Yes its true I do live out in the country with poor service, but my wife's iPhone and my OG Droid and Droid 2 never dropped a call... Moving onto the DNA I am able to hold a call with ease anywhere in my house. This also comes into play with me when I'm on the road. I travel a lot of rural highways, and having a good signal is crucial. Verizon has the best coverage by far in my state, but the Samsung Radios are just not that good. The DNA has great reception, and ultimately this is a phone, and that part has to work for me.

Even if signal quality weren't an issue I would still pick the DNA over the SGS3 or Note 2. I'm not big on all the gimmicks with TouchWiz. Yes it has some nice features, but so does Sense. I love the Sense dialer, and the camera is great for my needs. Form factor is Great on the DNA. Fits perfect in my hand. The Note 2 is just too big, and I still feel like a tool when I use it as a phone. Feels like I'm putting my Nexus 7 up next to my head. The S3 I found to be just a tad too wide to hold comfortably in my hand. Also with the plastic smooth back of the S3 and Note 2 I HAD to put a gel case on it to get some grip on the phone to keep from dropping it.

All in all its very subjective. You need to play with all the devices and get the one that best suits your current needs. For me its the DNA, for others its going to be the S3 or Note 2 or some other phone. Don't settle for what other people tell you, try the device out for yourself and make an educated decision.
[HTC Droid DNA] wolfedude88:
I'm not into the gimicky features either, but I hate sense the most of the skins I've used. Touchwiz isn't great either imo, I think motorolas skin is the best now, closest to stock android right now for the skin, which is why I like it the best. I played with a Razr M at the Verizon store, I did the update for it there. I swear that phone flies with jellybean, fells faster than my DNA is, but I pray an hope we get CM10 or AOKP or some other good ROMS and this phone will be almost perfect for me.
[HTC Droid DNA] TechSavvy2:
I had a VZW GNexus. I loved aosp, and the phone sucked ass. I loved it and hated it all at the same time.

Yes, HTC phones could also withstand those tests in the video. Do you think plastic is the only material in the world that has elastic properties?

I've used a Note 2 for about 2 weeks a bit back, and also have a GS3 currently. Yes, TW is better than it used to be. It is actually nice now. However, people keep hitting on the "extra" features TW has. I didn't/don't use any of them, nor will I. They were cool to show people you could do, but had no actual quick and convenient application for me. Why does one really need PiP? Or an S-Pen? Did your finger quit working? I know some people like them, but they're not a key selling point for everyone. Lots of people like me just don't care about those features ( I actually may be in the minority here). Just becuase one person (you know who you are) happens to have a job that can tailor to the use of all this doesn't mean they hit the head of the nail here with the other 99.9999% of the population. I don't do any of that crap. Ever.

Yes, I also agree that AOSP is 100% better. Personal preference, I know. No, you're not gonna convince me otherwise. No question asked.

SD-Card slot - I bought the 32gb gs3 and added a 64gb sd card. Currently.....using a TOTAL of 6gb.....yes, its because of cloud storage (Google Play music, etc). I wasted my money buying a model up AND the sd card. Yes, some people need much more, but doesn't mean that 16gb of storage doesn't appeal to anyone.

People complain about Sense - really? This day in age? You're on XDA for heaven sakes.......or just use a different launcher/lockscreen/mods etc. My middle-school sister knows how to take care of that problem.

Last of all, I find it ironic that everyone is raging against the DNA when this is in the DNA section.....(but I guess every device has this phenomenom)
[HTC Droid DNA] AfroCreame:
I've owned all three and overall...

DNA

Nexus 4

Note 2
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
It isn't everyone. A lot of it consists of people that A. don't have the phone, or B. were going to move on to Note 2 once it dropped and were just biding their time.
[HTC Droid DNA] greyhulk:
I still have trouble wrapping my head around why people would choose the DNA knowing how bad the multitasking blows (or maybe they just don't). It's exactly as bad as it was on the HTC One X (and X+) and completely worthless. A phone that kills all of my background apps within a few minutes and refreshes all of my web pages every time I switch back to them is no good to me.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
Then don't get it. Pretty simple, right?

My Gnex would refresh websites when going back to recents. It is not that big of a deal to me. Clearly this is how Google envisioned it to work (at least on that device).

Also, I just checked my recents on DNA, and re-opened my twitter feed from 2 hours ago.

Then I revisited a gtalk conversation from 3 hours ago without refresh or reload.

I'm not seeing the issue here.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Adreno in the dual-core S4 reserved 360MB of RAM for itself which is why multitasking on the XL was so bad and also why Samsung put 2GB in the S4 SGS3's. So in the DNA Adreno's probably reserving a chunk of RAM for itself too. But even if it's 500MB the 1.5MB left should provide above average multitasking performance. In both One X's HTC had the thresholds set at a silly low level. If that's the case here the devs should be able to address it fairly easily. In the One XL it was a h/w limitation with the DNA I'm sure it's s/w.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
Makes sense.
[HTC Droid DNA] barondebxl:
Note 2 is a fuc°ing champ in every category, cant be mad about that. Only reason i sold it is cause i wanted to try something different after having the S3 and note 2 which uses pretty much the same software. Note 2 is one of those phones that come and become game changers, it really is a legendary phone, like the galaxy s 2 when it came out. But i love my N4!
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
So you sold your Note II, went to a Nexus 4, and posted on a DNA forum?

Got it.
[HTC Droid DNA] cowisland:
Here is my humble opinion. Hopefully this helps someone make the choice. I have been using the DNA over last week or so. The only thing I think is a serious hardware problem is a recessed power button - - it's hard to press and does not look durable. Everything else is great from a hardware perspective.

Sense is easier to replace on the DNA than on my old TB, mostly because they left the notification pull down untouched. Other things, like the launcher, lock screen etc are very easy to replace. TW, on the other hand, crams a lot in the notification pull down. I have Power Toggles there - - much better!

I played with N2 in a store and it did not strike me as particularly smooth. I expected it to be due to lower resolution. I find the DNA to be just as smooth as N2.

So it came down to a nicer screen and a more appealing hardware design (obviously subjective) vs. more storage and a larger battery. For me it was the DNA by a healthy margin. It's such a prettier toy!
[HTC Droid DNA] barondebxl:
Which means it makes sense for me to be in a DNA (thinking of buying it) vs note 2 vs nexus 4 thread , but apparently you don't get it.
[HTC Droid DNA] surflamj:
I haven't played with the nexus but between the note and DNA for me its no comparison. The DNA is the ideal sized phone, the build quality is on an entire different level and touchwiz just doesn't do it for me. The s pen was cool but for me it was novel at best. My phone is my media device and for music and movies the DNA is the superior device.
[HTC Droid DNA] typeriz:
I'm sticking with my DNA, don't really care for s-pen, but multi window, does seem like a great option I wish I can have on the DNA. I guess with quad cores coming out, maybe Samsung will be the ones that are going to get copied!!!

Can devs port that feature in to sense??? Im looking at you erishasnobattery!!! Lol

BAMF;)
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
I don't read minds. Apparently you don't get that. You certainly never mentioned that.
[HTC Droid DNA] typeriz:
I hope you really keep the DNA, super praise for bamf work.... Pause.... No homo
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
I am liking it a lot :D
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Let's face it. If it's new and shiny and unique there's a 90% change you'll own it. ;) I did end up getting a N2 BTW. I was getting dizzy bouncing between Sense on my phone and TW on my tablet. Now everything works the same and the pens are interchangeable.
[HTC Droid DNA] barondebxl:
I have to pee, ill mention it next time.

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Nice! Its a fantastic phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
This one is intelligent.:rolleyes:
[HTC Droid DNA] TechSavvy2:
adrynalyne, I remember seeing you mention somewhere about holding out on dev-unlocking the phone (I think it was you??). What are your current thoughts on the development status of the device? I only ask because I follow the status of a lot of devs on the device, but it seems many of them change their opinion on a day to day basis, especially the BAMF elite members, lol. Insight? I ask in here because I'm up for upgrade in a week and a half and am 90% buying this, 10% on the fence still with the Note 2. Only pitfall is that I have a GS3 and playing with Note 2 is just exactly the same phone....but bigger......
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
I think this phone has a lot of potential in that regard. Now, I will say that having a locked system in normal mode is a huge downer and will turn off some devs.

Its just too early to tell if this will end up being another Rezound, dev-wise.
[HTC Droid DNA] greyhulk:
Other than the ridiculously-placed, recessed power button. Top on a tall device? Who's idea was that?
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
No more ridiculous than say,

Putting a tablet to your ear to answer a call ;)

Or having your UI be one giant app drawer :D

I question their centering of it, but the device isn't much taller than my Gnex. I can turn it on and hold it with the same hand.
[HTC Droid DNA] Betterjake:
Note 2

Ahh I want it so bad!! Anyone wanna trade a note 2 for a One X. Haha jk, i wish though.:cyclops:
[HTC Droid DNA] TechSavvy2:
Or holding up a 10.1" tablet to take a picture with it, lol.....

I had the transformer prime for a while and people would complain about the camera on it. Wft are you using your camera on your tablet for? Use that thing in your hand called a phone, lolz....
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
:D
[HTC Droid DNA] rhettnis:
I had the same thoughts, but ill get used to it over time. Just like how when I came from the droidx to the gnex I didn't like the side buttons either.
[HTC Droid DNA] nkgangew:
Ummm...wasn't that exactly what Adrynalyn was saying...that the Note 2 isn't any discernably faster than the DNA. Are you a robot just spamming the forum? Cause obviously you're not reading before you post...
[HTC Droid DNA] nrfitchett4:
apparently HTC centered the power button on top so people that use the device with either hand had the same reach to get to the button. Guess they are the only ones that care about us lefties!
[HTC Droid DNA] typeriz:
I kinda like the center power button, or I just got used to it... Lol I tried using my old rezound and was searching for the power button in the middle lol
[HTC Droid DNA] greyhulk:
My problem with it on the One X was that it was not only an awkward position to press one-handed, it was recessed and difficult to press. I prefer the button on the side, where my index finger can reach it. It looks even more annoying on the DNA. Centered and recessed. And that's your only option to turn the phone on. At least I have the alternative of the home button on my Note.

In the modern age of bigger phones, holding the Note 2 to your head is hardly like holding a tablet. It's really not that much bigger than the Lumia 920, or the original EVO, the DNA, etc. I rarely make/receive calls. On those rare days when i have to spend a lot of time on the phone, I simply use my Jawbone Icon. Pretty simple, really.
[HTC Droid DNA] adrynalyne:
So you have been arguing against the DNA without ever using it?

Ugh.

Anyway, the button is flush, but it has a texture. I can find it fine without looking or much trouble, but it would have been nice if it was slightly raised.
[HTC Droid DNA] nkgangew:
Exactly. The Rezound button was flush and not textured. It was extremely annoying. The DNA power button is easy to find in the dark. Yes it Would've been better on the side, but this is such a weak complaint about a phone...
[HTC Droid DNA] nrfitchett4:
way to rationalize your purchase...

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/dailyrecord3/mar2011/4/6/dom-joly-image-2-495366070.jpg
[HTC Droid DNA] typeriz:
Well my power button and volume isn't flushed, i can actually find it sliding my finger on the top and sides, also my phone is naked, no cover, maybe that helps??
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
This has been my feeling exactly. I usually switch to a new phone every 2-3 months, but I don't see myself letting go of the Note 2 anytime soon (possibly not until the Note 3 is released). The size combined with the features just blow everything else away in my opinion. I've spent a lot of time with the DNA, and I've got to say that it's definitely an impressive device. The same goes for the Nexus 4 in the little bit of time I've spent with it (although it didn't impress me nearly as much as the DNA did overall). But neither offer everything I want in a phone like the Note 2 does.
[HTC Droid DNA] xerxax:
Just wanted to say... 'priceless' is right. Z Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon is making me might happy. When i find that transforming tablet with win 8 and a gtx680m it won't matter the price either.
[HTC Droid DNA] Duhstehn:
Currently on the Note II and waiting for my DNA's to come in stock. I can honestly say that I am impressed with the Note II so I'm expecting great things from the DNA.
[HTC Droid DNA] vainqueur:
NoteII is nice no doubt. But like many people out there asking about burn-in. How much is NoteII affected by burn-in?

I am considering between N4 and N2
[HTC Droid DNA] flyinonice4:
This may be a stupid question but I saw in your sig you still have the note 2. So is the list best to worst and you just kept the note 2?
[HTC Droid DNA] dre4402:
i know im late im just reading thru but if it hasnt been said lol you have a satchel
[HTC Droid DNA] andybones:
I actually really enjoy the power button compared to previously owned htc devices.
[HTC Droid DNA] xapibejad:
next smartphone

and then my next new smartphone is Galaxy Note 2. :good::laugh:
[HTC Droid DNA] slowfncar:
How in the world did you only manage 5 hr screen on time with a DNA? Must be an ultra heavy user because gaming & movies consistently do 8-12hrs on the DNA. I am curious,how was your reception during the DNA battery test?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
There's a difference between 5 hour screen in time and 5 hour battery life.

The former is great, the latter is horrible.
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
Yeah, I think you're confusing overall battery life on a single charge versus the amount of time that the screen is actually turned on. If you're getting 8-12 hours of screen on time from a single charge, you've got a version of the DNA that no one else has.
[HTC Droid DNA] :
well the note ii has a feature that nothing out there has ever had

wireless touchscreen

take the stylus out and put your finger on the white tip and use it to touch the screen without touching it :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] Silverspitz:
Guys, this video, will really help!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=HBkY3vg14JM&v=7cZp6YGBEW0
[HTC Droid DNA] Hendrickson:
I had the Note II but swapped it for my DNA, depends on your needs. I found i never used the S-PEN or other bloatware err I mean software included. Its a good phone, but the DNA's sharp screen (Running 320 DPI), size and build quality was better for my needs.

Only one thing i miss is the Note II's stunning battery life.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
I have had two of the three (DNA & Note 2) and I have a priority list for my cell phone purchases. Near the top is battery life and it's always above screen quality for me.

Which shouldn't surprise anyone that I ended up with the Note 2. Not only is the phone and functionality great, but the battery life is downright incredible. On my first charge I got 7 hours screen on time and now with more normal use I'm getting well over 24 hours and sometimes close to two days of overall usage.

But like everyone has said, it's all about what is most important to you and your needs. They are all great phones in their own ways.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
haha yeah...coming from a GS3 with a broken charge port, i value any phone i have that i can actually plug in when it's dying ;D
[HTC Droid DNA] coolpoete:
Dan37tz, thank you so much for the well written review. This helped me make my decision as I will be upgrading next month and I was thinking about the DNA but I'm going to go with the Note 2.
[HTC Droid DNA] shawnx1:
Same just checked my recent apps still all open from this morning

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I picked up the the DNA Just felt better in my hand still feels like a phone the note to me was just a little large but not so big that i couldn't see buying it.Also i have no use for the pen. What worried me about the dna is the battery not so much worried about not having a sd card all my stuffs in the clouds and i was right for my usage it last me about 6 hrs not what i'm use to had a droid bionic and with the extended battery i couldn't kill it crazy screen on time.Don't think I'll be finding a extended battery for this thing.. I love everything else about the DNA from its sharp looks to the way it feels in my hand to the awesome sense ui o wait that's right I'm rooted no more sense it reminds me of phones i had 3 years or so ago droid incredible t-bolt man they need to revamp sense in a major way IMO. I've thought about taking this phone back and getting the Note 2 but hmm I just can't make myself do it plus i hate returning crap. I think the one thing besides the battery that makes me think about returning the DNA is that Samsung really has stepped their game up over the past year or so when it comes to updates and adding features hell there still adding software for the note 1. HTC and Verizon scares me when it comes to updates and crap I don't think this phone will see one Android upgrade or at least a major one anyways they will just make a new phone and put key-lime on that it's verizons way of doing things I guess Htc doesn't have the pull Samsung does with the Verizon people.
[HTC Droid DNA] mazdarati2:
well people, i want to know which one of these is the fastest and/or has the least lag.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
I'm assuming the Nexus 4 would have the least lag and is fastest since it's vanilla android.

But between the DNA and Note 2, the Note 2 definitely has the least lag and it's pretty much neck and neck in the speed department.

The lag on the DNA was one of many reasons why I exchanged it for the Note 2. The overall UI experience was way too heavy and slow feeling whereas the Note 2 feels super smooth and quick.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
again, it's all due to animations. it's not lag. it's sense animations.

this thing is fast as hell, and the only difference is the launcher itself. when you run nova, which i tried the other night, any instance of "lag" is eliminated, especially that home button lag that we all saw. it's just sense and how it works. turn animations off, or set to .5x, and it's just as fast as the note 2. i'm sitting here playing with a note 2 at work. it's not a bad phone, it's just so stupidly ridiculously big. all these damn phones are getting too big nowadays lol
[HTC Droid DNA] KillaHurtz:
You're gonna compare the DNA on 0.5 animations to a stock Note 2 ? Set the animations the same and see which comes out on top. The Note 2 destroys the DNA in terms of speed. The 320 dpi people are talking about is just stupid because the human eye can't see past 300. What does that mean ? Wasted resources on detail you will never see. Throw in a locked bootloader, no sdslot......sounds like a winner to me. HTC fell off a couple years ago. Sure they can make some nice unibody designs, but they suck at innovation. Sense still looks like it did on my HD2, seriously.
[HTC Droid DNA] MustafaHadaKing:
Note 2 Vs DNA.

Do you want a Phablet?

Or do you want a Phone?

The Note 2 may be only slightly bigger than the DNA, but feels much bigger in hand. Which is not what i like, so i went with the DNA.

Of course if that doesn't matter to you. As people said before.

Note 2: Battery life

DNA: Screen & and Slightly Better Processor
[HTC Droid DNA] KillaHurtz:
Where are you getting slightly better processor from ? I have hit close to 10,000 on quadrant and blew away antutu with my N2.
[HTC Droid DNA] dr_drache:
think about the larger amount of pixels the DNA has to push. and calculate that into your synthetic benchmarks (on the PC side of things, we've already learned benchmarks mean nothing, maybe android soon?)

but that math shows the DNA IS FASTER HARDWARE!
[HTC Droid DNA] KillaHurtz:
Ok, let's talk about mulitasking, oh wait....that's non existent on HTCs these days. So much for FASTER HARDWARE. Besides an owner of both just stated that the DNA is comparable to the Note when the DNAs animations are set to 0.5. That's not synthetic buddy.
[HTC Droid DNA] dr_drache:
are you talking about AOSP style multitasking, or the multi screen?

I agree sense has a "bug" where it kills hibernating apps.

BTW I've had both devices. just because you change settings, doesn't change hardware specs. the screen on a DNA is a better screen, period. hardware fact.

meaning, it needs more power to run the pixels, period, hardware fact.

most everything else, is going down to opinion.
[HTC Droid DNA] KillaHurtz:
You are correct, it takes more power to run the pixels, essentially leaving less for system usage. The screen is a matter of opinion, LCDs have horrible black levels and are a technology of battery wasting yesteryear.

AOSP ? Where was the mentioned ? I'm talking about working on say, a very large post and you start another app for reference and stay on that app for 12 hours. You can go back to that post and all the info you typed will still be there. This of course is happening while a youtube video is paused in the background, you have a game of final fantasy you forogt about but would hate losing progress on, as well as a recipe for macadamia nut cookies on firefox for later. THAT kind of multitasking, that happens in real world situations. You know the kind you would expect from a flagship device....

It's pointless to argue really. To each their own. I can't see dropping a pretty penny on something that has the same system issues as the last generation with a company that makes you sign away your warranty to unlock your bootloader (htcdev). The fact that there is no removable storage or battery only adds to the atrocious color scheme in terms of universalism, and appeal.
[HTC Droid DNA] dr_drache:
BTW,

that multitasking thing, IS AOSP. just to clear that up. and yes, that's a bug.

and the HTC warranty doesn't void with HTC unlock. only the warrently clause that covers things you can ****up by unlocking. read the entire thing.

and it's not a LCD as you seem to think it is, it's new SLCD, most of those downfalls you claim, are not there in this tech. why do you think most people with this

device are getting AMAZING battery life for a 2020 battery? i guess that tesla charging is it.

I just hate people who think they know part of something, so they MUST BE RIGHT, THINGS CANNOT CHANGE.