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[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
I am using banks too, but i am not using Google Keyboard, I prefer AOSP one because it's themeable.

What about lockscreen shortcut fc? Are you experienced it too?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ceejay83:
What settings do you use for faux?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Nothing too sophisticated. Mostly followed Faux's recommended settings.

384 - 1512

governor

mp decision, eco mode, snake charmer off

uv -100 (my phone is fast)

c0/c1/c2/c3 on

thermald off

vibration 100

deadline / 128

battery life is pretty amazing. I will definitely give Franco Kernel another try when the next version comes out. Its my go-to kernel but I feel that Faux is a bit more complete atm. Its really difficult to choose between the two >_>
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
I'm using CM stock kernel and it's giving great battery life too :) My opinion is that the newer battery drivers are doing their job.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Goku80:
Like i said to you before..everyone to there own....for me i tried faux and i do not know what i do wrong but i always have issues with his kernel...i know early stages for the 4.3 but for some reason my phone does not like his kernel..still one of the great devs out there hands down...but semaphore for me although i am new to stratos kernel i have to say is the best i had in terms of battery life and stability specially with 4.3...will probably try like you said franco again but anyways...this rom for me is running great and would recommend it to anyone

you know what my friend..all jokes aside stock kernel is just as good as any other ones out there:o
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Smallsmx3:
I agree. I don't see any reason to use a custom kernel unless you need fast charge our slide to wake. I bet most people that use custom kernels don't even give stock a chance. They say so smooth and great battery but they have nothing to compare it to other than other custom kernels. I have tried most but I always come back to stock.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
Found another bug, sorry if this is a known bug, but I guess nothing wrong with reporting bug.

Phone app is not themeable, I've tried some theme but phone app won't change.

Otherwise, this rom is amazing, got pretty good battery life and snappy performance with franco kernel.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] belair56:
I believe it's because the "dialer" is its own app now.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
I thought it always was... The PhoneSky apk.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
Phonesky.apk is playstore, I don't know about dialer, but it always has it's own apk which is phone.apk and contacts has people.apk which is themed well.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
To an extent I agree. When you start wanting to customize the technical parts of the kernel to suit your needs then that's when you need a custom kernel. But beyond that you don't really need a custom kernel especially since Google has done quite a bit of good work on it for 4.3.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] belair56:
Phonesky is the play store. You have, phone app, contacts app, 4.3 added dialer app. So my guess is the theme needs to be updated to add the dialer app.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
Ahh. Thought vending apk was play store. Either way the dialer is quite well done by google. Love the new auto complete! Better than the T9 dialer in custom ROM's before.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Razer(x):
Is there any recommended Gapps for 10.2?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Banks gapps they work great and are very light weight.

Custom kernels for color, more input values to change, undervolt, not using mpdecision and thermald

etc. They're plenty of reasons to use a custom kernel.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
PA gapps works great too here. No issue.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shr33kant:
My 0.02 on custom kernels :

I'll tell you why I like semaphore over the stock kernel, it's not only that it's just as smooth (and it is) it's the battery life. The phone uses literally only 384, 1024 and 1501 and sometimes 1100mhz when throttling on the stock kernel (checked with system monitor) .

Semaphore will use a frequency based on current load rather than (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong [MENTION=3750240]stratosk[/MENTION]) : is user touching screen? FULL POWER! Is user screen off? Sleep! (I realise this is a gross oversimplification of mpdecision but you get my point). Don't get me wrong, mpdecision makes the phone fast, but it is at a cost.

(Edit: I also realise that semaphore has touch boost enabled...)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
Not recommended per se but some people love BaNkS' clean gapps packages while others love the closer to stock feel of PA's gapps package. Either one is good but I personally use PA gapps and the extra apps don't take any internal storage since it's all installed on system :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
That's semi true but the extra apps do take your internal storage since the zip file containing the extra apps are on your internal storage ;)

Plus, when you want to wipe and start over you'll have to redownload the updates whereas, for banks you'll have the apps backed up and will always have the latest.

That's another reason why I prefer banks.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
Each to their own :) Both gapps packages are great!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Choice is good :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
It's on your /system partition, it will save your data partition since it's installed in literally wasted space.

PA gapps updated regularly every two weeks. :)

Both are good and works btw, it just a matter of choice. :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
I understand that but I was saying that the apps that are going into your /system/app/ folder is in the PA Gapps folder that is in your data partition so it is taking up space. Its the same as the banks gapps.

Banks gapps: Not included, only play store.

PA gapps: included.

Both gapps will have the same amount of space but banks will have less depending on which gapps you want. As you can cherry pick which you want.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, or that one is the wrong way of doing it. Its up to the user. But the whole space part isn't relevant as both are still on the partition.

PA: included in the zip.. so it will use the space

Banks: not included in the zip..... will use the space when you install the apps.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superleeds27:
Outgoing SMS on latest build isn't working for me!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Works fine for me.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superleeds27:
Not sure whats wring. I just keep getting red exclamation marks!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Whats your set up? Radio? Texting App? Carrier?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] AcmE85:
No problems on my end.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superleeds27:
Latest Radio, Sliding messaging, O2 UK

Have also tried stock messaging and Textra.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
Sorry for OT, but here is the explanation, we have separate partition between /system and /data, if you flashed from gapps package it will be installed on your /system partition, which is practically unusable partition since all your data stored in /data partition.

If you installed from playstore it will be stored on /data partition and use our precious free space, which is you can use it for music or other apps.

If there is the same version of app in /data and /system, OS automatically deleted the one on the /data partition to free up some space.

Enough off topics, btw anyone here tried viper4android on this rom? Is it works?

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What red exclamation? Please elaborate.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superleeds27:
Id send a message, it wouldn't send. It would sit there asif its sent, but display a red exclamation mark next to the message.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I agree with you on the battery aspect. There's a large placebo effect every time we talk about that subject. However I use Franco because the colors are so bad on stock. I can't go back to washed out ugly colors after using my settings.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
You mean "message not sent" exclamation?

Are you on latest radio? Please update to the latest radio and bootloader if you haven't update it yet. Latest radio is .84 and bootloader is makoZ20i. :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
You're not understanding what I'm saying. Your 'precious free space' is still being used because those apps that are going into /system/app/ are in the PA GAPPS. I'm well aware that /system/app/ is on a different partition and uses its own space,but the gapps zip in your DATA Partition.

At the end of the day your 'precious free space' isn't FREE space because it is still allocated in your other partition since you keep the PA gapps. So unless you flash the PA gapps and then delete the PA gapps which you probably don't do incase you need them again, you won't have 'precious free space' because it is still allocated since its on your sdcard. Please read that clearly before you quote me and try to justify yourself, you're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm a Computer Scientist I know how partitions work.

The apps going into /system/app/ are flashed from PA GAPPS. Which are on your SDCARD thats why the pa gapps are like ~90MB+ and Banks is only ~17MB. The extra MB would normally go into your /system/app/ so you dont have free space because your GAPPS is bigger.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superleeds27:
Im on the latest.

Tried another CM Rom, fresh install.

Same problem. It worked at first, then it didn't after i removed a few system apps. Launcher etc.

Edit: I think it's a system app i've removed thats caused it :s... Dirty flashed ROM and kernel and sms is working again...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] diogo.sena:
Why people keep removing system apps? You are not gonna run out of space in system anyway...

Sent from mobile.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
LOL, sorry for the misunderstanding :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
I'm just saying that space isn't relevant when it comes to saving space. I think to a certain extent, banks saves more space depending on which gapps you want but either way you can't go wrong :) no hard feelings
[Nexus 4 Android Development] drawde40599:
So after not being able to dirty flash any of the updates since the 30th (getting stuck at finishing boot screen) i uninstalled supersu from within his app rebooted then tried agn and the newest update installed with no issues... So it was something to do with chainfires SU, but dont look like happens to everyone so dunno.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] FrameCityJackal:
I don't have root access on the latest 4.3 release. Did a full wipe from carbon 1.8

I'll try to obtain a logcat but I'm at work for the next few hours.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] drawde40599:
Because everyone is different and what u want on your phone may not be what someone else wants.....

Newest build running flawless :D! Thank u to everyone involved!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] maverick_hunter:
Have you tried going to Developer options and enabling root for both apps AND ADB?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] FrameCityJackal:
Yes i do. I fix permissions then downloaded supersu 5.1 flashed the zip accidentally deleted it then fixed permissions cleared cache and I have root now but doesn't show I Gave any apps permission in the settings :confused:

Problem solved I suppose lol
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bongostl:
Hi all

I just installed this fresh, w/ Bank's gapps (and no custom kernel or anything)

Went and installed titanium from the store.

It isn't getting root! Doesn't ask for it!

Help!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
Flash SuperSU 1.51
[Nexus 4 Android Development] paulpoco:
You don't need SuperSU anymore, built in Superuser works fine now.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] FrameCityJackal:
Mine doesn't ask me for root but helium works fine restoring apps since i went through those issues

For some it doesn't YMMV
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
It partially works, try copy some file to system/app and change system permission to rw, it won't let you copy those file. It works on SuperSU.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
works fine for me. using root explorer + koush su
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shayne77:
Go into Developer Settings and enable root.

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I have 2 cameras and 2 galleries...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] SlyRder83:
Is halo going to be available for cm10.2?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ceejay83:
yea if dev feels like cherry picking it, but officially? no
[Nexus 4 Android Development] SlyRder83:
Sweet, thanks playa. Just the answer I was looking for
[Nexus 4 Android Development] blueren:
Just wondering if these are nightlies... Will we have a build everyday just like official CM builds?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sleef:
It's up to euroskank. Sometimes, devs pump 'em out every day and sometimes they only do a couple a week so they have time to do other mind blowing things. It's been three nightlies in as many days, so far.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
ehh dunno. all those ROMs are too much. When you try to integrate all the features like PAC and Carbon, it gets messy. It's pretty simple to integrate Halo and CM and for a lot that's all they want. Any more and it starts becoming Bob's custom ROM with a custom menu that starts to stand out from the rest of AOSP and looks unprofessional. I appreciate all the devs' efforts, but for some, we just want to stick as close to a clean ROM as possible.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] droidkevlar:
Unless it gets submitted by CM, no. Dev only picks from there. He doesn't add features from other ROMs.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Don't judge unless you tried, be open minded and don't judge without actually trying it. Carbon is actually quite fast and not slow or sluggish by any means. Any features you don't want such as Halo, Ribbons, etc can be disabled and doesn't run. Carbon is also starting from scratch and reworking the code from the beginning.

Don't be a prisoner of your own style ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I have tried Carbon and PAC. It's just hard when you have to try to pack in all 3 ROMs in one. These ROMs have features that often clash or overlap. At that point, what do you do? I might like CM PIE, but if IIRC they implement PA PIE. So what happens to my preference of CM PIE? Too bad. I gotta chose PA PIE. Which ROM takes priority? I've used all ROMs and I keep coming back to CM. Sometimes AOKP takes priority, sometimes CM, sometimes PA. It's inconsistent. And of course you have to implement AOKP ROM settings too which adds a whole different screen for more customizations. At that point it gets fragmented. Some settings are on the main Settings menu for CM and PA, but the rest are in AOKP's ROM settings menu?

I'm not saying it's a bad ROM. It's just not for me. I prefer the professionalism that CM has in its ROMs, and sometimes people are just looking for 1 more thing, and specifically that's HALO. I don't think that going to a hybrid ROM is really the solution if all I want is HALO.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] obscure.detour:
Using 0802 build with faux 19b3 kernel. All default settings. I do feel like 4.3 is slightly more responsive. Or it could just be my full wipe... Even LTE is working fine. Battery/standby has improved. Seems like I could get over 4hrs of screen on time fairly easily.

Click to see battery life:

Really enjoying the ROM thus far.

On another note, has anyone experienced weird behavior with Voice+? I opened it and it started force closing. So I force stopped it, but I think it pops up in the notification bar occasionally.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
I tried compiling CM myself yesterday and build was unsuccessful. They pushed more commits recently so once I'm done syncing I'll try again but I think maybe that's why euroskank didn't compile yesterday?

Edit: Stupid me. Forget to fetch the prebuilts. Got it up :) If euroskank doesn't mind I could share my compiled builds (no cherrypicks yet but could put some up from CM's gerrit later).
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nv8110:
System UI always FC , i.e. status bar and nav bar will disappear for few seconds and come back

Also the recent apps button sometimes does not work

I am on 0802 build

Sorry for my bad English
[Nexus 4 Android Development] istmar:
Seems to be working fine here ,
[Nexus 4 Android Development] karnoff:
I would make your own thread if your going to post builds. Euroskank only here, don't want to confuse people or takeaway from Euroskank
[Nexus 4 Android Development] paranoid android85:
Any plans to release some skank on nexus 7 (2013)?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nadiros:
I have none of those issues. Are you perhaps using a theme or flashed a mod of some sort?

I don't think its appropriate to share them here. How bout starting a thread in Android Development?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Not sure what all this touchboost talk is about but I was just wondering if its enabled as well as unity3d. Seems pretty damn smooth to me so I'm curious
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
Unity3D should be work since most games runs without problem. Touchboost is part of mpdecision that boost to certain freq (1026MHz I believe) when you touching the screen.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Ah ok so nothing new then... huh I wonder why PA is flaunting it like a new feature.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
If I could afford to purchase the device I would definitely compile for it

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I believe to keep any confusion down,it would be best if you started a new thread. :good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rysup:
I want takeaway from Euroskank! I'll take a large fries, cheeseburger and a coke thanks. ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Fixed ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
Hey guys I didn't mean any disrespect to euroskank. Just thought for the nightlies he'd miss out on I'd upload a build instead so people wouldn't ask too much on why he hasn't put one up on that day. If the general consensus is that it wouldn't be appropriate then it's all good :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] gianton:
Could anyone pls advise what's not working? I'm on trailblazerz11's 10.1 linaro builds and thinking on flashing this.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] chris6278:
For me pretty much everything is working. Havnt had any issues whatsoever and out of all the 10.2 builds ive tried this one is definitely the best performing.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] gianton:
Thanks mate, which gapps should I use?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kenkiller:
Banks' work fine for me so far.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2012857
[Nexus 4 Android Development] :
For me too.

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] chris6278:
The flashed the 05 build an under build number in about phone its says SELinux staus Permissive. Anyone know what that means?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] pawan1993:
What that means is that it's not really enabled. It won't change anything about how your phone works. If it were enabled it would but in this case don't worry about it :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
why not just do a nand,flash it and see if you like it? If not,restore nand.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] gianton:
I did, all working great thanks mate.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
music to my ears
[Nexus 4 Android Development] istmar:
So I went to setting and check that, and I clicked on it like 4-5 times and the phone froze then it rebooted but it stayed on the CM boot animation , and never boot up until I hard restart it . I thought it was weird!

Excuse my horrible English :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lightninbug:
What kernel is everyone using for this? Just trying to get a general consensus.. Any recommendations?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
For now,stock is running fine. I will try Trinity when it is ready
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Lupus77:
Lol, happened to me, too. But the funny thing is, now I can switch between Permissive and Enforcing. Just click several times on it and it switches. But I think it's not working, because some apps like Beautiful Widgets are force closing. A manual reboot fixed this.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CMNein:
I haven't bothered using anything but stock Cm in about a year.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
lol,errbody finger happy
[Nexus 4 Android Development] istmar:
I have it enforcing now no FC so far so i will keep it like that to see what happens:) was this known already or it was me the first one?? Lol
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Simms posted a pre-alpha Trinity :p http://www.twitlonger.com/show/me3tsa

I'm running Franco r174 atm.... been bouncing around to see whats out there.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
yea,I saw that. I'll wait until it comes out of testing since I am having no issues with stock
[Nexus 4 Android Development] chris6278:
So what exactly is this for or mean?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] fabian.m:
what kernel are you guys using? i think it should work with the cm one...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] danbrown162:
I don't think DSP manager is working. Seems to be a problem for all 10.2 ROMs atm
[Nexus 4 Android Development] aimcr7:
Report: on the 5 august build no more AOSP keyboard fc on swiping, but swype doesn't give any output (not yet working i guess), DSP manager still doesn't work, no more lockscreen shortcut fc.

Hopefully no more random freeze I got on 02 august build.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] :
Swype is working absolutely fine for me! Incl. the correct output of course ;)

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] damage98:
I think you are right. Can't get it to make any sonic difference.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Smallsmx3:
Flash banks gapps. That fixed my keyboard issues
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Goku80:
battery life on this rom is freaking amazing...bricked kernel is just great and the same with semaphore..tried bricked and easily got over 5hrs screen on time with battery use of 14hrs
[Nexus 4 Android Development] fabian.m:
Can one tell me where I can find the quick unlock option? Saw it recently but can't find it now lol

/e: never mind, found it...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] chris6278:
Got a random freeze for a few secs earlier on the 05 build. Not sure whats causing it. I probably need to do a full wipe
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2393060
[Nexus 4 Android Development] AcmE85:
Won't help. I have the same issue now and then. Already wiped once and tried different gapps with Stock Keyboard and with AOSP Keyboard.

I also read that this happens on other AOSP roms. As of now I found no fix for this.

I am sure as soon as cm10.2 gets official nightlies with its own gapps package, this will either be resolved, or won't take long till they fix it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shr33kant:
There's a new semaphore kernel that fixes the deadlock issue (although I haven't tested it yet).
[Nexus 4 Android Development] 0.0:
A fix for DSP manager: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2393060

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] superg81:
i get this as well
[Nexus 4 Android Development] anthonyp326:
Is there a transparent bar mod for this ROM?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rysup:
+1 ...it seems to continue recording whatever I swipe or type too which is mildly annoying lol
[Nexus 4 Android Development] damngood98:
close as i've seen atm

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44205363&postcount=1185
[Nexus 4 Android Development] anthonyp326:
Thanks wish there was something a little better
[Nexus 4 Android Development] drawde40599:
Random freezes happens on stock google img also, maybe cm will fix it, but it happens on 4.3 100% stock to me not just cyanogen