yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] karasuhebi:
Come on now, be nice. He's contributing to the conversation. Maybe some people haven't read back 80 pages worth of posts so maybe they don't know about the workarounds that are available to them.

I mean I understand it might get annoying getting a notification for this thread and thinking that there was an update posted about the progress of getting this feature to work (this has happened to me too) but at least he's keeping the thread active so other people can see it. Who knows? Maybe even a developer will see it :D

This is what used to happen to me also, people tried to send me MMS and they never reach me. It's very annoying. And like SpookyTunes said, Google has been saying this for years now. I mean yes, now that they have mentioned it alongside a new product like Hangouts I have more hope but still.

"When people send an MMS to your GV number it goes to your gmail inbox and you get an SMS alerting you one has been received."

This is not the way I want MMS to behave on my phone. I want it to come in through my SMS/MMS app of choice.

"I see no reason to even bother with tmo wifi calling unless you're a total n00b and you can't figure out how to follow a simple set of instructions on setting up sip."

As I explained earlier, porting my number away from T-Mobile would effectively cancel my T-Mobile service, which is not something I'd want to do since I'd have to then re-sign up for it. I imagine most people wouldn't want this either. This was something I was considering when I had a pre-paid TMo account but I didn't do it since I'd be a pain; now that I'm on a post-paid family plan I'd be even less inclined to do it.

"Honestly, the only valid argument left for people to not use it is the hassle of dealing with a 3rd party for all their MMS...but as I've said before, how many people really use it that much where it's actually a deciding factor?"

Me. This was THE deciding factor for me to stop giving out my GV number as my main number back when I was actively wanting to try and make it work for me as a viable solution.

"Just don't let your service stay off for too long where tmo gives your phone number away, because then google voice stops working."

TMo would give away whatever throwaway number they gave you when you bought a SIM and activated your service with them. Since in theory, the number you're giving out to people (your main number) would be over on GV, TMo giving away that other number doesn't really matter. You'd still receive texts and voicemails on your GV number. You'd just need to change your settings on GV when you re-sign up for TMo and get a new temp number. :)

Sorry for the quote-fest everyone.
[Nexus 4 General] cpkelley94:
I really wish some devs would come together to figure this out. There are some IMS sources from T-Mobile available (IMS is the newest form of Wi-FI Calling, baked into the ROM I believe) but I think they might only be for SIP debugging. Here.

Also, there is a thread in the S4 forum for Wi-Fi calling porting which enumerates the specific files in the source that need to me changed/merged (here).

The dev seemed to get pretty far on it but suddenly stopped.

Hope this helps.
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
Once again let me say I'm not a coder, with that said I've been thinking...I wonder if this could be accomplished as a Module through the Xposed Framework.
[Nexus 4 General] jaed.43725:
I sometimes feel like I should just trade someone for a SIII or a Note II. But I really like my N4, especially the dev on it. So I like so many others wait patiently.
[Nexus 4 General] md1008:
Gs3 has good sized development for both aosp and twiz Roms. Guessing you don't like twiz but options are nice. Note II is awesome best phone IMO that I ever owned but development although still good not as good as the "s" series. If your thinking getting Samsung for WiFi you will be stuck with twizz but the devs do a good job tweaking out stock Roms plus they have lots of themes and am almost positive they have aosp themed roms.
[Nexus 4 General] popimp315:
There are also and cm as well. True android

Sent from Planet Vegeta.
[Nexus 4 General] esnittle:
Have you seen the recently released [Flashable T-Mobile wifi calling][Sense 4+ and Sense 5]? I'm not a dev but perhaps this might provide a start for a Nexus dev...
[Nexus 4 General] ragnarokx:
That is for a phone that has WiFi Calling stock - and that flashable zip appears to be the stock WiFi calling components for ROMs that don't already come with them. Probably won't be much help.
[Nexus 4 General] blankit:
So much money being offered and not one dev has been able to do this. Sometimes I wish I learned to develop
[Nexus 4 General] alleyezondisromo:
So what's going to happen with the money that had been donated ? Will it go back to the donors ?
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
No one has actually put up any money.
[Nexus 4 General] stealthj:
For now i complained and received a signal booster...
[Nexus 4 General] NissanskylineN1:
The G2X has a wifi calling app that works on 4.0+ However, we have very few developers left in our forums. I'm quite confident however, if you help our device become stable on Jelly Bean, we can gladly try to help you with WiFi calling. Our devs are:

TonyP

alpksonic

Giveen

PM them for info/help.
[Nexus 4 General] gorealmighty:
Bob sled by tmobile
[Nexus 4 General] karasuhebi:
How long ago did you get it? Was it a Cel-Fi Booster? I've been told for some months now that they are not carrying them anymore. :-\
[Nexus 4 General] stealthj:
More than just a few months ago, like around the time when the nexus 4 first came out. If by cell fi you mean connecting your phone to wifi, then no thats not what I have.

What I have is a two unit thing where you place one unit by the window in your house and the other unit on the opposite side of your house and its supposed to boost your 3g/4g signals
[Nexus 4 General] nexusguy2:
It must be too difficult for any dev to tackle these WiFi calling requests. I would be willing to add another $35 to the bounty. If a dev

wanted to make some money and become a hero to a community of over a million nexus 4 owners, I don't see why this hasn't gotten more

attention. Not the mention the amount of respect gained on these xda dev forums if the solution was found.
[Nexus 4 General] waffleguy4:
I would be so appreciative if someone figured out this feature. I'd throw down $30.
[Nexus 4 General] Devildog78965:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=807116

I hope this helps a little I remember the nexus 4 days oh now i got a s4 but I can't wait for the nexus 5!

Sent from my Nokia Hammer Phone
[Nexus 4 General] roachkazy:
Count me in for $20, it would be great to get this to work!
[Nexus 4 General] al haqq:
Can pledge $20 myself for a working solution. Absolutely zero bars of service in my basement, where I spend most of my time
[Nexus 4 General] ninjafan:
$20
[Nexus 4 General] Shinyhead:
I can't support any money but I can provide my expertise in coding and firmwares if anyone needs it. Trying to get rid of Verizon and go to a more simple basic plan with Tmo.
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
Sorry I disappeared, been extremely busy. I'll catch up soon, but I assume that there hasn't been any progress?
[Nexus 4 General] karasuhebi:
You're correct sir, no progress so far. We've gotten some more pledges though. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Don't think this is going to happen guys. Would be awesome though.

Not sure if a Dev would be willing to trust pledges. Some type of an escarole account would probably encourage someone though.

Addenum--i am leaving the above for laughs but yes.. I meant escrow. I thought I typed it correctly but did not check. Too funny. You never know though.. A Dev may really dig those greens!
[Nexus 4 General] overtheair:
Or maybe an escrow in a casserole with escargot.
[Nexus 4 General] quailallstar:
Another $25 here cause I want a white nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] zim2dive:
Where the $ is doesn't matter. Someone would have done it by now if it was going to happen.

Maybe it can be back-ported from Nexus 5 :)
[Nexus 4 General] karasuhebi:
Why would the new Nexus phone have it? The reason the Nexus 4 doesn't have it is because it's something that TMo has to install on their phones and since no carrier had access to modify the Nexus 4 they couldn't include any apps (such as WiFi Calling) in the ROM out of the box. Why do we think it'll be any different for the new Nexus phone?
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
It won't be different.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yes, I admit I am an idiot. :D
[Nexus 4 General] csmith8507:
Sure would be nice to have. I missed it a ton when I was travelling recently. The alternatives aren't nearly as handy.
[Nexus 4 General] quailallstar:
Shot in the dark here and I'm not a Dev. Would it be possible to somehow port the T-Mobile branded LG L9 models wifi calling to work on the Nexus or any other LG phone like the Optimus G? This would be killer if possible but guessing no cause it would have been done by someone by now :/
[Nexus 4 General] Sicily1918:
Has anyone gone to the IMS project?

https://code.google.com/p/the-ims-open-source-project-for-android/

Looks like that was the original idea -- a WiFi calling app -- based on T-Mo's feature.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Cool.. Not exactly sure what it is now though or of it is even usable yet.

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] emd2009:
So what's the update with this?
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
It's impossible, or close to it. Factoring in one of the bigger development teams on the Nexus 4 compared to other phones, and also a year now nearly with the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] marcjw:
I wonder if this Moto X has wifi calling? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2445955
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Won't make any difference if it does.
[Nexus 4 General] mmariofox:
Need wiwfi on the Google Nexus 4

WiFi Calling will give all T-Mobile USA customers who use the Nexus 4 the ability to use their T-Mobile phone number to make/receive calls and text messages over an active WiFi network. As well, post-paid T-Mobile customers could avoid using their minutes, if they are on a limited or pooling plan, while using WiFi Calling. Customers need to ensure they have the "Free WiFi Calling" SOC attached to their line and a valid 911 address on file. The 911 address requirement also applies to pre-paid T-Mobile USA customers.
[Nexus 4 General] mailboy1412:
Wifi calling for nexus 4 won't going to happen. I guess it's hard not having TMobile support.

I decided to buy a TMobile signal booster for my nexus 4 and it worked great.
[Nexus 4 General] karasuhebi:
How much did that run you?
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
I got one for free from T-Mobile a few months ago. Its the Celfi one. Just call and ask about their signal boosters and they will ask you some questions to see if you qualify for one.
[Nexus 4 General] karasuhebi:
I've been trying to score a Cel-Fi booster from them for forever. They keep telling me they don't have them anymore. You're lucky. :-\
[Nexus 4 General] vikramkhalsa:
Same thing for me! Don't know how he got one..
[Nexus 4 General] quailallstar:
Tell them you are going to cancel your service and see how quickly they locate one in stock for you.
[Nexus 4 General] dito33:
I got it got it free, I wonder if can catch LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] CBMC:
I don't think they will care if I leave with my $30 per month plan.
[Nexus 4 General] vikramkhalsa:
Will try that, thanks
[Nexus 4 General] deroberts:
I could be totally incorrect here but... The issue from what I've seen is how T-Mobile implements authentication. The project you linked to gives examples of how to use the IMS service, but they intentionally leave out the authentication that Tmo uses for WiFi Calling. This would probably be the "secret sauce" that's compiled into other roms that do support WiFi Calling.

Under the Authentication header of the Wiki page for "Settings tool guide"

"NOTICE: AKA-support is not available in the currently open sourced version."
[Nexus 4 General] simobile:
Agreed,

I've been down this road and without AKA, it won't log onto the required services of TMUS. Things like E911, location, etc. are locked out and their ends up being a failure to connect. I've downloaded the newest LG G2 rom in hopes that something can be pulled from it and ported over. I know others have tried and failed but I've been at this for months now and still haven't given up. I first tried to port over the old GAN Kineto wifi calling but the libraries are so old that most of the android links are broken. For example, if android is looking for a file at java.xxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, android now stores that file somewhere completely different and it will error out. (YES I KNOW THAT THERE ARE KERNEL ADDITIONS TO BE MADE...THIS IS NOT HARD TO DO AND NOT ROCKET SCIENCE) There are hundreds of broken links and they "COULD" be fixed but with IMS being the new standard it doesn't really seem worth it. The G2 is the closest thing to our current hardware and most likely includes what we need.

I really haven't gotten on here for months because I've been consumed with this but I will do my best to keep you all updated.

Oh... If I see one more post that mentions groove ip or google talk... Kittens in third world countries may just die. Your warned.
[Nexus 4 General] Shinyhead:
Cancelling will not always work. I found out from the tmo BD group, you need to have at least 3 years tenure to even be considered to get the signal boosters.
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
I suppose that makes sense. The things retail for like $400 and they give it to you for free. T-Mobile property of course though.
[Nexus 4 General] vikramkhalsa:
Probably won't cancel, will just threaten to. I've been with tmobile for 7+ years so hopefully thats enough :p
[Nexus 4 General] Shinyhead:
You should be able to get it as long as you meet their other requirements.
[Nexus 4 General] quailallstar:
I've also posted created a similar topic with the same request for a wifi calling port solution for the ATT LG Optimus G Pro to use on T-Mobile here. Maybe a DEV could hack a G2 and use it on the Nexus4 and G Pro (dreaming here...)?
[Nexus 4 General] mailboy1412:
sorry for super late reply. The signal booster is $129 on eBay. It has T-Mobile NOT FOR RESALE sticker on it :)) . I guess people got it for free from T-Mobile then resale them anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] alexpja:
The last reply is from the 10th of October, and so have there been any updates regarding this? I've read all 95 pages of this thread and only recently has it slowed down. I would donate some money if this were to be successful :D
[Nexus 4 General] FuNKSioN:
:(it simply will never happen. this thread should probably be closed.
[Nexus 4 General] PDAras:
Dam.. if N4 still does not have it then N5 most likely will not...:(
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
WiFi calling means less Monet for t mobile. Don't think they want it.

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
95 pages? Mine shows 20 ;)

... I changed my setting to show 50 posts per page. I couldn't stand having only 10 per page. That would annoy me when skimming thru threads.

×✖ LTE Mako ✖ rastakat ✖ AK.106 ✖ CWM ✖×
[Nexus 4 General] tchaikin:
T-mobile's wifi calling implementation does use your minutes (assuming you're on one of those plans that isn't unlimited calling). It also takes some of the burden off their network, so really it's a win for everyone.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Unless you click the free checkbox that says to not use minutes for WiFi Calling.
[Nexus 4 General] vikramkhalsa:
Of course they want it, its their own service that they offer and its available on all of their phones..

The nexus line just doesn't get carrier branded and bloatware or subsidized so we don't get this feature..
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
The ball is in Tmobiles court

I think Tmobile is missing a bet.

Tmobile customers would pay for a discrete TMobile app that provided seamless wifi phone service even if the minutes were billable.

I accept that Google is not going to mod Android to accommodate Tmobile, so Tmobile needs to adapt its software product accordingly.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Apparently, the Nexus 5 will have T mobile WiFi calling built in.

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/s...notifications&sparm=cbp=1gl787enthc7j&sview=2

I hope the link works.
[Nexus 4 General] pkelly517:
Why do you say? The N4 was sold by T-Mobile, and never had WiFi calling.

We can hope, but it's silly to post anything that says it will happen.
[Nexus 4 General] byt3b0mb:
nexus 5 does not have wifi calling - no nexus device has ever had wifi calling - that is a t-mobile proprietary app/framework. I bought my nexus 4 from tmobile and my nexus 5 from play. the Nexus from t-mobile is identical to the one from play software included.
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
T Mobile wifi app coming?

Just hoping this will change.

The discussion quoted earlier included this comment from allegedly T Mobile:

T-Mobile2 days ago

Hey everyone it is true that ours will support our Wifi calling app and that the devices not sold through us may not have that available. Google also gets some perks of being the developer and gets to sell them at a little better price point. -Rick

That makes it appear as if T Mobile is parting out the Wifi calling app.

Presumably an Android guru will add a reality check, but surely that would allow a similar capability for the Nexus 4.

Can hardly wait.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Thanks for actually reading the link before commenting, unlike those two.
[Nexus 4 General] tt531:
Rick may not know what he is talking about.

Plus there's this:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57611578-94/t-mobiles-nexus-5-wont-support-wi-fi-calling/
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
I'd be seriously surprised if the n5 is any more capable of this then the n4 is.

PSX? ~ v4a ? n⁴
[Nexus 4 General] byt3b0mb:
I did read the article but i am telling you from experience and actually owning two nexus devices, one from T-Mobile one from Google.
[Nexus 4 General] pkelly517:
I did read it, but I thought I'd need a little more before I believed that the N5 would support wifi calling.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57611578-94/t-mobiles-nexus-5-wont-support-wi-fi-calling/

So, yeah, it's silly to report anything until there is official word.

Sure, CNET isn't 'official word', but it's more than a CSR chat before the device is released on the carrier.
[Nexus 4 General] jaed.43725:
I am still hoping. If the N5 really does have it, then its only a small matter of time before its ported.
[Nexus 4 General] md1008:
Since Android is open source shouldn't T-Mobile have acess to source code and be able to do an ota update to include this? I realize this isnt how it works. Is their a contract that forbids T-Mobile from doing this
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
Wifi on Tmobile is deeper than it looks

The TMobile wifi was described as essentially a GSM fork in a previous comment on another site. As TMobile/Deutsche Telecom was a heavyweight player in the adaptation of GSM, they may have had the clout to get that blessed. I'm too clueless to know whether that is a fair description, but it seems plausible.

Assuming that is correct, there is no way the capability will ever surface as an app and also there is no way Google will ever offer this. I may have to shift back to a Samsung or similar, just to get the wifi. Very unfortunate.
[Nexus 4 General] pkelly517:
T-Mobile has the N5 available for purchase from them, with no mention of Wifi calling.

It's specifically noted on the G2, so the N5 hardware should be capable.

It's just not gonna happen.
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
T-Mobile already said the N5 won't support Wi-Fi calling
[Nexus 4 General] diverbelow:
Which sucks but at least there will be VoIP calling through hangouts early next year on our android devices.
[Nexus 4 General] grassyloki:
http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2013/EECS-2013-18.pdf

it talks about SIP and has some addresses in it.....

can anyone decipher it?

in android 4.4 kk only i think. https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/2811843?hl=en
[Nexus 4 General] FuNKSioN:
nope.
[Nexus 4 General] jaed.43725:
If I ever get a good job I will be upgrading to the LG G2. I like my Nexus devices, but its getting crazy. They upgrade signal footprint in areas that really could be held back a bit, and neglect areas that could actually use it. But at least with the G2 I will have Wi-Fi calling, and there are some nice ROM's for it that incorporate it.
[Nexus 4 General] ftd0411:
Is it possible to extract the rom from T-Mobile's LG G2 if it is similar in hardware to the Nexus 5? Essentially converting the N5 into a G2 to achieve the Wi-fi calling.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Do you know someone with a G2 that could rip WiFi calling from their phone for us to try?

Sent from my Nexus 4, while driving in my Evo9.
[Nexus 4 General] ftd0411:
Unfortunately no, I was wondering in theory. But I did see the LG G2 thread and links to the stock T-Mobile firmware. I have no clue if that would help since it is not on a device.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2432476

http://g2-lg.com/lg-g2-stock-rom-firmware/
[Nexus 4 General] quailallstar:
WOW!!! Major congrats on the breakthrough. If you ever figure out how this happened and can be replicated then count on my cash. Since you took these bits off an LG G2 ROM then in theory this could work on the LG Optimus G Pro, but I'm assuming here.

Keep it up.
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
This is the closest anyone has gotten so far...many thanks for your hard work.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Awesome discoveries

Sent from my Nexus 4, while driving in my Evo9.
[Nexus 4 General] Cameron581:
Make a backup while its sorta working
[Nexus 4 General] simobile:
Indeed.

I already have and expect to have some free time today to pour over logs of unmodded backup and modded backup.

I'll keep you guys updated.
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Still don't understand why you all don't just use groove IP and or vonage
[Nexus 4 General] zielin:
I'm in

I'm in for $20 on the wifi calling as well.
[Nexus 4 General] tuan209:
ill put in 20 also if anyone is able to wifi calling on the N4!
[Nexus 4 General] NardVa:
Vonage can't receive WiFi calls.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
And Groove IP doesn't let you share the phone number as your T-Mobile account simulateneously.
[Nexus 4 General] khanh1289:
Like what the guy above said.. groove ip is good but I prefer to have just 1 number to give out to people.

Sent from my Blenzderz 9000
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
When you call out, call with Google Voice (integrated into stock dialer)

When you receive calls, it gets forwarded to your phone.

SMS will work like this as well, but no MMS (only think keeping me from porting and using GVoice)

So Google Voice can actually be setup as your primary number, and by only handing out that number.
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
We are now at $380+ pledged. More will come with promise of someone dedicating their time to the project.
[Nexus 4 General] surmanm:
any updates ? did any developers pick this up ??
[Nexus 4 General] doanchaknow:
I'll put in $20
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
It has been reported (Though I can't confirm myself) the Optimus G is 99% HW identical to the N4. I guess it would just depend if the differences from 4.1.2 to 4.2 are too great that porting it to 4.2 would crash WiFi Calling. There's 3 files that are needed iirc. It's been almost a couple of years since I messed with adding WiFi Calling to roms. I could give it a shot but I don't have a N4 to test.
[Nexus 4 General] shilent:
Count me in for $40 USD.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
20 here

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
OK So I looked and there is no Optimus G for T-mobile. Also I dug through my old stuff and found the stuff we used for our roms to add WiFi Calling. There is 5 files total to add in order to enable it.

At this point there isn't a good way to port it since the only LG phones that T-Mobile Sells that has WiFi calling (according to their website) is the LG myTouch and that is on GB. IF the Optimus G WERE to come out for T-mobile I think it would be an easy port. IF I had a Rom for the O G.