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[Nexus 4 General] spoonboy:
I sold my S3 in anticipation of getting an N4. I didn't manage to get one on launch day.

I've been reading the forums and I think I'm now going to get another S3 over an N4 (although the LTE ver).

Main reasons for this:

1) Google Music and 16GB just isn't an option for me. I've tried streaming my music during my daily commute and it cuts out too much. I hate it, it ruins listening to music. There's always pinning, but I have far too large a music collection to even partly store on the device. Having a 32GB microsd card made this a non-issue in my S3.

2) As above, but 16GB is paltry is general. I don't even understand how they can make an 8GB version - it's purely to hit the $299 mark, nothing else. With games taking up to 3GB each, one game + a movie or two and some mp3s and you're done.

3) I actually liked TW. I put CM10 on my S3 and flashed stock back. It's the first phone where I have kept the stock rom. There are too many things in TW I like now - from the dual split screen from note, the swipe left/right to call/text, all the modes on the camera etc. I've had an S1 and S2, so I know how crap old versions of TW were.

4) Battery life. For what I do - a mix of browsing, MP3ing, FBing, whatsapp/texting etc - The S3 was a champ. 24 hours with 4 hours screen time no problem, with BT and Wifi on most of the time. From what I've read from S3 -> N4 owners, the N4 isn't as good in this respect.

5) I'm really put off by glass on the back. After seeing how it scratches so quickly, even moreso.

6) Sound and Camera quality. The S3 DAC is great, and from reading online the N4 doesn't compete with it. For those that think this doesn't make a difference, listen to an S1/3 and then try an S2.

Don't get me wrong I think the N4 is a fantastic device. it just seems that most Nexus Manufacturers cripple the Nexus device compared to the one its based on:

Galaxy S vs Nexus S = No MicroSD slot and no 720p recording, although flash on Nexus S.

Galaxy Nexus vs S2 = GNEX has higher res screen, but RGB non-pentile is great. 5MP GN camera was rubbish, 8MP S2 camera was great. No SD slot vs SD slot again. Also S2 had a much better SoC.

N4 vs Optimus G = SD Slot.

However, if Google release a 32GB version it will convince me to overlook the other advantages the S3 has and get one :p I will probably always be bothered about the back getting damaged, as I hate putting cases on my phone, but 4.2 is a really nice OS just as it is.
[Nexus 4 General] jayharper08:
I am very tempted to go ahead and shut this thread down guys. If you can't disagree respectively, then I will close it. Be mature in your responses. No need to bring back playground banter.
[Nexus 4 General] spoonboy:
Except that they aren't for everyone.

The S3 i9305 has a better camera, proper LTE, better DAC, FM radio and expandable storage.

That means a lot more to some than things like the SoC used.
[Nexus 4 General] maniAK-:
I prefer my N4 to my S3 slightly better phone all round in my opinion :)
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
I have NEVER seen a screen break as easily as the S3 it's ridiculous!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] brooon:
Its so funny to see what People are writing when the day is long enough :D, i had the S3 for man months and Im an owner of the Note 2 since the Release... And i NEVER had lags or force closed Apps, while i HAD some when I tested the N4 for to days (what resulted in selling it immediately.

EDIT: sorry for the typos, my t9 is Set on another language
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
Is the i9305 coming to T-Mobile?
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
Lte - no need (look at my sig. That's more than enough for a mobile phone)

Camera - as long as it can take decent enough photos I don't mind and n4 has more than decent camera.

FM radio - really ? who is using FM radio these days especially on a device that is connected to the internet .

DAC - I have studio speakers at home . of I want to enjoy my music I'll do that. On a daily basis I'm happy with sound quality, and for most part I'm only listening to it in the car where the sound isn't that good anyway
[Nexus 4 General] sungrad:
Cheers for that. Good review :)
[Nexus 4 General] spoonboy:
You ignored my entire point entirely - well done there.

I'll stress - The camera IS better on the S3. I have a full frame camera so I like to have decent IQ everywhere- the S3 is on the HOX/IP5 level. The N4 isn't.

The DAC IS better on the S3. I don't care if you have studio speakers - I have a full set of Naim reference separates and some half decent Dynaudios. SQ is important to me and the Wolfsons trump any other Android devices.

I don't care about the speeds in your sig - I'm not buying it for the LTE I'm buying it for the DC-HSPDA which my network makes use of. I'm also buying it for the 2GB of ram for future proofing.

and you can't listen to radio when you haven't got a data connection. I commute from SW London to central everyday and there's a black spot for 10 mins on a fast train. FM radio works here, anything else doesn't.

I love how some N4 owners try so hard to defend their devices. I think the N4 is awesome and also think the S3 is equally as good - SHOCK HORROR!
[Nexus 4 General] danthepan124:
I was gonna get GS3 i9300 version, then realized T-mobile 3g doesnt work on it, so I switched to this
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Well said!!! DC-HSPA+ rocks!!! Only one problem.... I've got i9305 and I'm sorry mare but there is NO FM Radio... Not sure if hardware is there but nothing is working. No big deal to me... We can have up to 80GB on board for extra music....

I've to agree with some of you guys, both phones are Brilliant , No Point to fight, Nothing & Nobody is Perfect in our World...

The Best phone is your phone..
[Nexus 4 General] phositadc:
Keep in mind the S3 came out nearly 6 months earlier than the N4. And it's availability wasn't a disaster.

-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Some of you really seem to be forgetting what Android is really about: freedom. The S3 is still a great line of phones with a lot to offer. The Note 2 has a lot going for it. The N4 has been a wonderful phone for me. The next generation of Android phones ought to be phenomenal. There's no reason we can't all coexist peacefully; in the end we all love our Android phones for what they give us and that's what really matters.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] OnlinePredator:
I am in the market for a new phone, can't decide between S3, N4 or Lumia 920.

Didn't think I would ever say this, but I would miss sammy's additions..... I have been on CM9/10 for most of the time I had my sgs2 and loved it. It wasn't until the leak of JB came out that I realised how much better some apps are from Sammy, such as the calendar, FM Radio, memo/Smemo, popup browser, Facebook sync to contacts and birthdays, along with handy quick access controls (and also when you enable wifi it comes up with a quick connect popup which is invaluable to me!). There are a lot of extra apps that I may never use but that's fine, just ignore them?

As I do a lot of media consumption I also value a bigger screen. Now N4 I believe is better when it comes to web browsing as it had a WIDER screen, BUT not when it comes to watching videos (as it is a smaller screen and ratio is weird and also amoled arguably is better for movies/videos) or general apps such as Facebook etc as the software buttons take up a lot of space at the bottom of the n4 screen.

Looking through camera comparisons the S3 has a better camera for photos and videos. Storage is also an issue, along with future proofing a phone with 4g....
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
This is one thing we dont have common with the iSheep..atleast theyr united in theyr luv for ios devices...hehe
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Ask the millions of Galaxy S3 users. Many of them who root their phones and are very happy.
[Nexus 4 General] ugotproblemz:
i dont get it. Can somebody explain WHY is the N4 scoring lower in CPU??

i thought we have a better CPU chip? =/
[Nexus 4 General] restinbeast:
Lol you're nuts. The GS3 is incredible. I have vzw gs3, international, and nexus 4. I doubt you can say the same and your opinion is ridiculous and uninformed. I have been struggling with if I even like the nexus 4 as much.
[Nexus 4 General] bala_gamer:
wow.. i never knew you have such a powerful microscopic eyes :D
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
I don`t understand why so many people thanked you for this comment, if you look in the S3 forum and look at the amount and quality of custom rom`s and kernels that are available right now it shows your comment is just not true. As much as a love clean nexus devices i think i`am gona pass on this one, mainly because it is made by LG. Secondly because i have a Note 2 atm running on CM10 and NEAK kernel, the Nexus 4 will never come close to this monster in terms of speed, storage capacity and batterylife. When we get android 4.2 then we will have true comparison conditions. But i didn`t come here to bash the Nexus 4 and realy considered it to buy, but it would be no improvement from what i have now to be honest.
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
It wasn't all roses. I distinctly remember waiting an extra few weeks for the blue S3 to be released after the white one (didn't want white) and even then my blue one had a problem with the finish which meant I had to wait another week for a replacement to be sent. This was the UK release I'm talking about.

I must agree that Google has angered me far more than Samsung ever did though, because of the joke of a Play Store situation.
[Nexus 4 General] MisakaImouto:
My Nexus 4 experience is a massive step up from my US Galaxy S3 for AOSP ROMs.

I can't imagine how much better it must be compared to the international version with Exynos.
[Nexus 4 General] modstorm:
I am trying to decide between the Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3 atm. I live in Malta so LTE doesn't affect me. One of the things that makes me prefer the S3 is that I'm afraid of the back of the N4 to break if it falls. However I do flash a lot of roms (on my previous GNex and N7) so it's either the superior Android development on the N4 or the slightly better camera and sd slot for the S3. For the same price (getting N4 off ebay), which is most worth getting ? (Considering both will be running custom roms)
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
One thing to consider when flashing a lot of ROMs is storage space. If you're doing a lot of nandroids and ROM downloads and Titanium Backups, that SD card slot is going to start looking better and better as time rolls on. The N4 will undoubtedly get a lot of quality dev support, but the S3 is no slouch.

On the other hand, on my Skyrocket I made do with an 8GB SD card and flashed a lot of ROMs; I just had to be mindful of my storage limitations and keep things clean.
[Nexus 4 General] maniAK-:
iv had all the best phones for last 5 years and this is the best mobile phone ever made the LG Nexus 4 , even better than the mighty Samsung galaxy S3 which I also own

its defiantly the Google and Android flagship phone now without a doubt , Samsung GS3 users get over it and wait for the GS4 now :D
[Nexus 4 General] X_Fact0r:
Could you clarify on how Nexus 4 is a massive step up from the US S3?
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Screen, price, build, software/updates, CPU, GPU
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
I'm going for a Nexus 4 purely because of the price, haha.
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Hopefully lg will hurry up so all this evay rapist go to hell
[Nexus 4 General] mikeymop:
What bothers me the most about the S3 (besides the logos on the front) is the delay from pressing a home button because S Voice is looking for that 2nd button click.
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
You can deactivate that
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
S3 is a awesome phone itself. What kills it for me is that butt ugly Touch wiz. Its like looking at a iOS! Ugggggggly. N4 all the way!
[Nexus 4 General] Custodian:
2000?...what...lol
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Touchwizzzz ugly. Note 2 another beast that got killed with touch wiz. LG is fine.. Look at the Optimus G. Speed wise idk both have a monster inside. Storage, don't bother me. Its a phone not a full time computer, I'll save that for my N7. Battery life in real life any android phone sucks at it. Windows and iPhone win that one. Both phones are a beast at what they do tho no doubt. Price wise and unlocked. Can't ever beat that. I'll take 2 N4s for the one Note pricing any day.
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
You guys touch about TW like it can't be removed ..paranoid android is a clear example
[Nexus 4 General] n1ggyn1ce:
I would've gotten the S3 if it wasn't an ugly phone. Call me vain but I was disappointed in how cheap it looked. When pics leaked of the N4, I wasn't impressed..the form factor looked the same as my Nexus S save for a bigger screen. After seeing reviews, the N4 grew on me..glad I got this phone. Fyi, I hate carrier logos.
[Nexus 4 General] AshtonTS:
Agree 100% about the S3. When I saw the announcement for it I thought it looked like a complete piece of **** compared to the One X and S that were just recently announced. And all the carrier logos really don't help its case.

Now about the Nexus 4.... I fell in love with that phone the first leaked pic I saw of it <3
[Nexus 4 General] newbieandroid:
Without Touchwiz the Note 2 wouldn't be able to have 2 applications running at the same time. I know many of you dislike Touchwiz but it is actually improving the Android experience. It's bridging the gap between PCs and mobile devices. Along with other Motion features which makes the Toichwiz experience fun. Plus it's one of the smoothest UIs available to use on Android.

The Note 2 has a built in Wacom screen! A 3100mAh battery those alone make up the price difference.
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
Dude I think you have missed the point when you were buying this phone. It costs only £279 are you expecting that phone to sh!te unicorns ?

And really you don't have any reception for 10min? I don't have any reception at work for..

And yet I'm able to listen to my music on Google music

I would never defend that phone if it would coat me £500 like galaxy nexus did .

You want better internal specs there is that company with fruit logo ....
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
i think the hardest decision is choosing between the Nexus 4 and the Note 2. the S3 is already killed by the Nexus' screen, processor, GPU, stock Android and timely updates. one might argue the S3's expandable storage but honestly if you are considering the Nexus 4 then you have gotten to the point where storage and LTE aren't an issue.
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
I'm currently waiting for my nexus 4 RMA, and if it still has issues I'll definitely consider the note 2. It's the closest spec wise to the n4.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I couldn't disagree more. The Note 2 is a unique phone, and I'm not just talking about its size. Touch wiz is really great on it cause it adds a sh*tload of features. No lag whatsoever and battery life is unmatched, UNMATCHED (iphone and windows phones don't even come close to the note 2 battery life). It offers the best blend of speed, features, stellar battery life with a big screen. You mention the storage, does it hurt to be able to have up to 128 gig? Does it make your phone heavier or slower? Come on now. Price? The note 2 is worth every penny. I love my N4, I loved the note 2 also.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
I've had every top end phone from Verizon to Sprint to AT&T and I have to say that not one of them could hold a candle to my Note 2 on AT&T. It's ridiculously fast/smooth, has features that no other phone even comes close to and a battery that you literally can't kill in a day no matter how hard you try. The screen, removable battery and external storage is just icing on the cake.
[Nexus 4 General] abjexstallion:
The problem nowadays with Google and their partners is that, they just won't work in unison with Google, or the other way around, to make the baddest, greatest flagship android phone ever. Aside from NFC, and OS improvements, neither of the nexus models should be considered "the greatest android device ever". I'm a nexus fan(nexus s, Galaxy Nexus, now N4) and everytime a nexus is coming around, there's always a rival who is equally or even better than the alleged "super phone". Where I'm heading is, why shouldn't we have a 13MP camera like the Optimus G? Why the stock launcher shouldn't be as fun as Optimus G launcher? I mean, it's effin open source! Why not 32 GB? It'll look as an improved Android, superior. Why their partnership won't go beyond the financial agreements, and finally make a ****ing flagship phone. LG's got the Nexus turn because Samsung's ego won't let them build a cheap quad-core bad-ass, non OMAP phone, period. Sad story. Next on the lineup six cores boards as low as 199, Google taking all the profit. Probably Huawey or Mi phones. Even Blackberry. With Google, who knows.

---------- Post added at 10:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 PM ----------

Nexus Models mean stock, developing phones. N4 is head-to-toe with the S3. How ironic was when the Gnex came out, Samsung was promoting their quad-core S3, knowing they were going to tear the Gnex down... 0_o?? I know it's business and competition... But then, why bother partnership with Google? Same with LG now... Why leave most of the good stuff for the Optimus G?
[Nexus 4 General] ssCISengineer:
Have you used a note 2? Or are you just making up false statements to back a bunk hypothesis?

Touchwiz.....MADE the note 2 not just a good phone/tablet...it made it a GREAT phone/tablet. You just won't understand how much an improvement that Touchwiz has made on this device until you own one and actually use it.

Going to best buy and playing with them doesn't count. .. and last time I checked the note 2 is one of the fastest selling and most Popular phones samsung has made. They just announced today they sold 5 million. In only a couple of weeks...

All anroid phones have bad battery life? What?

The note 2 gets 6 to 7 hours of screen on time....good luck with that on your wonderful lg nexus. You'll be lucky to get 3. Ever heard of Motorola.? They have very good battery life as well.

Your misinformed or ignorant.

But ALL of your arguments in your post are untrue
[Nexus 4 General] neodoru:
Jeeesus man, take it easy! To each, his own... There's no such thing as objectivity when it comes to phones like there isn't with objectivity when it comes to cars! If everybody loved touchwiz, CM wouldn't exist...
[Nexus 4 General] tweaked:
I bought the n4 because of price and no contract and because I don't want to run a devs rom. Nor do I want to be waiting for a dev rom. ever. S3? Its cool, and was my second choice. But the lack of google support kills it for me. I want the newest as soon as its released on the best hardware to run it. Running stock and working out of the gate. So I paid for it. S3....Yeah, not so much. That said, ain't nothing else wrong with the S3.

Not to mention I keep my upgrade with ATT and if something awesome comes flying out in a year or so. Well I'll get that too.
[Nexus 4 General] Jin486:
Ran a test on my Nexus 4 and this is a comparison to the Samsung Galaxy S3 using Antutu Benchmark 3.0
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
The N2 is not even a device that im interested on ..Too big
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
definitely not a phone for the small handed, although you do get used to the size after a day or so. I looked at my One X yesterday and it looked tiny...like the iPhone used to look when I used the One X...haha
[Nexus 4 General] brooon:
I lollld big time :cyclops: May I kindly ask if you ever have used a Note 2 or a S3? If you want to go with a "smaller" device, then the Nexus is *perhaps* your device. But if you don´t care // need a bigger device, the Note 2 is the king...it is the phone to rule them all. And this is just BECAUSE of TouchWiz! Today, Touchwiz is just a great developed framework. Use Nova if you don´t like the Launcher, everything else is just great. That´s the main reason why even paranoid android is not "selling" in the note 2 forum like it has with the note1. Every user is deeply satisfied even unrooted with stock - if you go with CM or paranoid you will loose a hell of functions.

I had all of them (S3, note 2, Nexus 4) and I deviced to stay with the Note 2. The Nexus is a nice piece of hardware (especially the used materials), but beside the fact that it´s a *nexus* (with the "security" to get lime pie in time)...it is kind of boring (for me) in every sense. IMAO (!!!) it is not a pro in ANYTHING beside good looking^^

Everyone has to decide for himelf!

Move along mate. Telling people to switch the forum + *****ing on satisfied users... :confused: This thread was about S3 vs. Nexus 4...and if EXPERIENCED users (and I don´t mean you, of course) are answering, that the S3 (including TouchWiz) is in some way better, then just listen to them. Or at least try to stay on topic and discuss it.

+1
[Nexus 4 General] ssCISengineer:
Im here because I have just as much a right as you troll. Who are you to tell me where I should be and not to be? You must own these forums?

Anyways back on topic. I think the n4 is a very good device. But like the post above this one said, touchwiz has really come a long way. And I used to be totally against touchwiz...but now its halfway decent. In fact people are choosing Touchwiz over another rom just because of the functionality offered on the note 2

And with the coming updates the s3 should have these advances coming soon. ..
[Nexus 4 General] Chrisv006:
I just got the s3 yesterday and got to play with the two side by side...I do not have LTE through sprint yet, so data wise the nexus blows it away.

Man the nexus just feels a ton better, significantly more solid. Stock for stock, the nexus is noticiably faster - the s3 has some studdering issues (even with nova launcher). Browsing is probably better on the s3 because the home keys go away and you get noticably more realestate, but the nexus renders pages noticably faster. Battery is better on the s3. External speakers are louder and more on the nexus. Antutu was about 7k lower with the s3. I do not like the buttons on the s3 - I dont like having to long hold to get the running app list to come up. I dont like having to hold a key to get google now to pop up.

My wife thought the s3 was much prettier.

All things being equal, Id go nexus...but if you can get the s3 for essentially free and your contract is the same as prepaid (ie, SERO), its hard to not keep the s3. I still have 13 days to return the s3 :) I still might even though I'm going to spend more to go on prepaid...
[Nexus 4 General] ssCISengineer:
S3 is a very nice device man. Plus its become so popular that you can expect pretty good rom support and updates from manu/carrier for a while. Even if they come slow they still will come. They've sold millions of those things and money talks and walks.
[Nexus 4 General] BassBlaster:
OMFG!!! It has a BUILT IN SCREEN!!! FIRST PHONE TO HAVE A SCREEN BUILT INTO IT!!
[Nexus 4 General] brooon:
Ehm...you are far away from understanding what he meant, aren´t you? :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
This post goes for fail award of the year
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Ladies and gents....get your fingers ready cause in t minus 65 minutes you will have a chance to get the n4
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Did you read what I said?

The Note 2 is a beast. What kills it for me is the Touch wiz. I knowwww its already a high end phone.. My buddy has it. The touch wiz will always be ****ing ugly no matter how decorated it looks and how well multi task able it is. It looks toy like to me! Good for you that you get 6-7 hour of on time.. (Someone doesn't have a life.) Samsung's best selling line of phone is the S3 @ 80+ million sold. Re-do the stats check. Again, touch wiz is ****ing ugly.