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[Nexus 4 General] killswitch11:
Man, I have tried that. I just called T-Mobile to see about getting a signal booster and the broken-English lady on the other end gave some BS about how a tower near me is being upgraded to LTE, so that should fix the problem that I told her I've had with T-mo signal for the past 5 years. Sigh. Dealing with T-Mobile customer service is like trying to teach meditation to a coked-up badger.
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
Try calling during normal business hours and they might be able to help more.

I've personally had positive T-Mobile customer service experiences.
[Nexus 4 General] liquidnails:
Man I live in college station Texas and when I signed up for tmobile almost two years ago, they told me that we would have 4G by summer 2012...here we are going into summer 2013 and still no 4g. Don't get your hopes up with that tower upgrade... Unless they started it 3 years ago.
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
Well, as you say, clearly my fault for not recognizing that WiFi integration is a carrier dependent feature, not a direct Google responsibility.

That said, the feature was built in the last 2 phones I'd gotten from TMobile and it seemed to me to be pretty universal.

Having it disappear in the Nexus 4 was an unpleasant surprise.

What frosts me is that neither partner appears to view this loss of customer convenience as an issue to be corrected.
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
You tried going into the store? That's what I did.

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[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Dude, neither can do anything about it. It requires custom software which T-Mobile is 100% unable to put on your phone. And the software is proprietary and is 100% not Google's software.

You should have returned your phone and gotten another one. In fact, go sell it on Swappa now and get a different one. There's a healthy market for Nexus 4 phones right now, usually selling at or higher than retail price.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
Appreciate the helpful advice.

Like the phone otherwise, so will keep it hoping that there will be a wifi fix eventually.

Still surprised that TMobile would sell the product w/o this functionality, but understand their iPhone 5 will be similarly deficient.

Seems poor business management to me.
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
That's what you call unrealistic expectations. It's like buying a Mac and expecting Windows to be on there when you first boot it up.

This is not a T-Mobile phone. This is a Google phone. T-Mobile does not have access to the software nor does either company say that T-Mobile's wifi calling was available on the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] benderunit9000:
My understanding is that Google would not allow people to modify the Nexus line of phones when they are being sold at retail.

That's kind of the point of getting a Nexus phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Their other option was to not sell it. There is nowhere in between. If you expect WiFi Calling to be in this phone, then expect software from British, German, African, and other carriers on it as well. Same phone and same software in all places, no exceptions. There is no special T-Mobile version of it - that's the entire point of the Nexus program.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] droidkevlar:
Where abouts do you live? I can tell you if they are BS'ing or not. Company I work for sells and installs Tmo, Vzw and ATT towers. I can ask an installer if truly they are installing LTE near you.
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
Question, T-Mobile Rep here in Dallas TX said LTE will arrive in May. Can you confirm?

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[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
idk about that guy but my brother works on those towers and says they're working on tmo lte. im in Illinois but hes also gone to wisconsin and Indiana for that.
[Nexus 4 General] killswitch11:
Portland, OR. I don't really care about LTE at this point. Nexus 4 can't truly take advantage and I'm happy with the HSPA speeds. I just wish there was better voice coverage where I live. Data upgrades to existing towers aren't likely to help in that regard.
[Nexus 4 General] droidkevlar:
I know I should have just sent a PM so I didnt get hit up for every which city... :D

I sent my buddy a msg to see if it is coming to TX and when. Will try to rem to report back. If I dont by this time next week, just send me a PM to remind me.

From the brief talk I had with my friend, he said there is only 3 or 4 true markets for TMO LTE atm. He said they are lagging like no other. Not saying they aint coming anytime soon.

He said Portland should be lit up like a Xmas tree. That was 1 of their first launches.
[Nexus 4 General] netudiant:
I get the idea that the wifi link is a carrier issue and therefore not a Google responsibility, that Google simply offers a base standard.

It remains a peculiar business model that a desirable and generally available feature should be left orphaned and unobtainable here.

Thus far, despite the best efforts of the user community to recreate this capability, progress appears limited.

Is it impossible or unreasonable for Google and the carriers to set wifi interface standards that would allow this to be routinely implemented?
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Yes, it's unreasonable for you to expect all carriers in the world to agree on standardizing on and licensing proprietary technologies so Google can put software on this phone. That's simply never going to happen. Even if T-Mobile was willing to pay money and Google wanted to do this, this couldn't happen. This simply isn't a T-Mobile phone.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] bluewarp:
I'm just trying to be helpful, but perhaps this attached file may help without getting the files from another 4.2 device. It's a paper from a group that found a security flaw in the T-Mobile IMS application of wifi calling, and goes through a lot of details of certificates, traffic, SIP login, etc. Perhaps this could be used to integrate the built-in IMS capabilities of the Nexus 4, or maybe not. But at least I can try to help.

Also, they did mention in the article that T-Mobile has open-sourced most of its Android IMS stack. I haven't been able to locate that information yet, but supposedly it is out there if it hasn't been discovered yet.

For those of you trying to get a booster, you'll want to go into the store. I called multiple times and finally got someone to tell me they'll send one, but they won't be available until sometime during the summer (no inventory). So if the stores have one, go ask for it.
[Nexus 4 General] illru:
IMS info was posted earlier in this thread. Some devs had been working wifi-calling from that angle. There was issues with the sim for some reason. See around page 25-ish. (Ohgami_Ichiro have you had any more luck?) Also the devs over at GS3 have had hard time pull Wifi-calling out of touch wiz for their AOSP roms. Us n4 people will have another chance when the LG Optimus G2 hits (4.2.2):D. Hopefully its included and a dev(s) can rip it out. :cool:

Just a feeling...

I see T-Mobile releasing wifi-calling to the Play Store at some point. Since they have the whole bring-your-own-phone thing. And that Visual Voicemail being a IMS app can be install on your phone right now. But most likely not till >= Key Lime Pie++.
[Nexus 4 General] Harry44:
This may help. IMS has been open sourced.

https://code.google.com/p/the-ims-open-source-project-for-android/

Id try to get it working but I don't have the time.
[Nexus 4 General] Harry44:
I have been looking through the settings in the ims sip settings app that is installed along with the ims app from the link above. As well as the security flaw information and it looks to all be present so we should be able to do it with this app.

I THINK THIS IS A SERIOUS BREAKTHROUGH. Im going to try some different things and try to get it working, if someone else wants to give a crack at it go for it.

UPDATE: I have contacted the scholars that posted the technical document. Waiting to hear back...

Update 2: Contacted them got back from them they say its not possible using the open source app. In the roms there is security stuff we need.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Did a search and no search results. I'm sure it's just the crappy Tapatalk search function but anyone have a good experience with Bobsled Calling by T-Mobile? I didn't.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Yes, still.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] vinay427:
If the Galaxy S4 with 4.2 and the updated WiFi calling app will in fact prove useful, we finally have a solid release date of April 24, 2013.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...h-for-250-and-april-24th-for-150-respectively

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members this will be enough of the back and forth...any more of this drama it will be dealt with, consider this the Warning. Thank You.
[Nexus 4 General] jimmiekain:
I got $5 on it.

$10 if it works without rooting on stock rom and it works with my regular phone number.
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
WiFi calling will always work with your original number...........................

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[Nexus 4 General] jimmiekain:
sorry, i'm new to t-mo. I never used wifi calling.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Sorry guys I have been on a Business Trip the last week. I need to start back up this week on this.
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
Any idea if the T-Mobile release of the S4 will help?
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Can't hurt. It is the only other tmo phone on 4.2 so it could help.
[Nexus 4 General] khanh1289:
Considering Google io is coming up along with new firmware, KLP, the trade off might not be worth it...

Sent from my Blenzderz 9000
[Nexus 4 General] TheGman125:
I will place a $20 bounty
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I understand that but it seems that there was something changed from 4.1 to 4.2 so this should help things along.
[Nexus 4 General] bigorthy:
Bounty

I'd be willing to pitch in $40 bounty.
[Nexus 4 General] khanh1289:
i dont mean to be a Debbie Downer but most likely, something will also change from 4.2 to 4.3.. Anyways.. I'm sure everyone hope we will get wifi calling running but considering the trade off is to stay on an older firmware on a nexus device is going to be hard for a lot of people.. I know it is for me because I'm the flashaholic and always want to be running the latest and greatest.
[Nexus 4 General] ragnarokx:
TMO Galaxy S4 is available online! http://www.tmonews.com/2013/04/the-...-galaxy-s-4-is-now-available-on-t-mobile-com/
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
A step closer ,but not quite what everyone is looking for...
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
If it's obvious, then why bother posting that news?
[Nexus 4 General] ragnarokx:
Have you been following the thread at all? Read one page back.
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
This thread has won the prize of the most ridiculous thread in this forum :D guys if you have no service go change carriers. Waiting for wifi calling is waste of time because android version will change and tmo gs4 will upgrade 6 months after that. Doubt anybody will want to wait again for new gs4 version to be out.
[Nexus 4 General] ragnarokx:
If that's your plan, godspeed. I have service, but I want better service. I'm fine waiting and supporting the developer(s) here.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Please stop trolling.

Also, if you don't care about this, please don't post here.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Lol I've seen people in this thread saying they get zero service at home or at work... There's no way I'd stick with a carrier that i couldn't even use my phone at home, I don't care how low the bill is or what phone they offer... That's just nuts
[Nexus 4 General] philosophics:
So now it has come down to who ever buys a Galaxy S4 and PORTs the WIFI-CALLING over to the Nexus 4 FIRST gets the BOUNTY. And think, that pays off the phone and gives you more for your time...

Seems like it's following the topic of this thread so not sure why everyone is complaining. Welcome to the Internet. Be patient and wait for this to happen...

Screamed another Paranoid Mako with AC!D Beats
[Nexus 4 General] mondokat:
This has been a wifi calling issue for ages. Right now, if you want reliable wifi calling, you have to stay on gingerbread, which sucks, but is an option for a lot of people. Gotta stay on cm7, yuck. if we get a solution that allows folks to use wifi calling in cm10 or cm10.1, it will be a great step forward, even if it breaks again in cm10.2 or cm11 or whatever. Better a functional slightly older rom than a non-functional current one.
[Nexus 4 General] liquidnails:
I would be happy to keep a backup of a 4.2 rom to use when I'm at home if that's the only option with wifi calling . I don't understand why people keep posting negative things in this thread and calling it ridiculous. Seriously.. If you think it's ridiculous then GTFO.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
This!
[Nexus 4 General] Sinfamy:
So is there a phone out there running jellybean with WiFi calling?

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[Nexus 4 General] michaelg1030:
GS3
[Nexus 4 General] Sinfamy:
Brb than, gonna go find a ROM and start poking and prodding.

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[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Not going to work. Wrong version of JB. Older than any version the the N4 has ever had. It was that version difference where the breaking changes were made. Read back through this thread and you'll see that.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Sinfamy:
Ah I figured someone would have brought 4.2.2 to the gs3 w/ WiFi calling, nvm then

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[Nexus 4 General] jimmiekain:
Question about wifi calling:

Before I made the switch to Tmo I was on sprint and had terrible coverage at home. They gave me a device called an airrave which hooked up to my router and gave me full signal when I was at home so I could talk. It worked great but the problem was that if I was on the phone and then drove away from my house it would drop the call instead of handing it off to a cell tower.

Is that how wifi calling works too? Or, does it hand the call off to the Tmo towers instead of dropping the call?

Thanks... I'm new to Tmo and never had wifi calling.
[Nexus 4 General] philosophics:
Anytime I've used Wifi calling, there is no handoff. It will drop the call if the wifi signal is too low.

Of course, this was when I had the G2 so things may have changed. It it could end up working the same exact way but it wouldn't matter. Would still like to have it for home and when I'm in the hospital...

Screamed another Paranoid Mako with AC!D Beats
[Nexus 4 General] vinay427:
I posted a while ago that the Samsung Galaxy S4 had W-Fi calling and is on Android 4.2. Wouldn't this work as a base to extract files from?

Clearly advertised here (T-mobile store link) that it has both 4.2 and Wi-Fi calling.
[Nexus 4 General] raidrom:
Wouldn't it be baseband and or a ril issue and not just a couple lib files a init.d script to call it up and some framework to enable ?
[Nexus 4 General] afbengochea:
With the Sony Xperia z coming with Wi-Fi calling, we might be able to use that as a source?
[Nexus 4 General] jaed.43725:
So whats the word on this? Now that S4 is out and about, has anyone managed it. I could really use it, I get about -73 dbm on E at home.
[Nexus 4 General] Harry44:
Has a tmobile system dump surfaced
[Nexus 4 General] michaelg1030:
I see a system dump in the S4 thread, but not sure which version the T-Mobile is. I am assuming the dump isn't for the T-Mobile one.
[Nexus 4 General] reqmon:
This is absolutely irrelevant to me, but I appreciate it.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Thanks for the link to the dump. I'll see what I can do with it. Crossing my fingers.
[Nexus 4 General] kelmar13:
^If crossing my toes and eyes helps, consider it done! :)

I, for one, appreciate the effort that you are making on this.
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
Whoever has signal issues try *#*#4636#*#* the click on phone amd select gsm only. Works for me.
[Nexus 4 General] jbdan:
Wouldn't that leave you stuck on edge2 unless you're in a H or H+ locale? In other words no umts? I'm new to T mobile/gsm have been with Verizon for 12 years so I'm just asking not stating.

Edit : also, couldn't you just go to settings > mobile networks > use 2g data save battery and it does the same thing?
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
Well people want wifi calling because they do not have signal to make receive calls right? Or they want wifi calling to download torrents? Gsm only serves the purpose of having strong signal in order to make receive phone calls, which is also the purpose of wifi calling as far as i know.
[Nexus 4 General] vikramkhalsa:
Yes the second way also accomplishes the same thing, its easier cause you dont have to dial the code. The tmobile rep actually told me to try switching to 2g only when I complained that I had bad reception at home and no wifi calling ability. So yeah this does work although there are still some areas in my house where I don't have 2g signal either! And if you're on wifi you dont need HSPA anyways cause your downloads and stuff are going through wifi. I have tasker set to automatically switch to 2g online when I connect to my homes wifi so I don't have to do it everytime. Theres also some automatic toggle 2g app you could use which does the same thing.
[Nexus 4 General] kelmar13:
Mind sharing your tasker setup for that one?
[Nexus 4 General] jbdan:
I see what you're referring to I misunderstood your other post my bad.

Good info, good to know, thank you :)

New to gsm so it's been a learning experience.

So the N4 has no wifi calling stock right? One has to use the hack posted in this forum correct?

What automatic 2g toggle I'm stock unrooted atm
[Nexus 4 General] vikramkhalsa:
I believe you have to be rooted and not sure if it works on stock or not. I'm on AOKP but i'm pretty sure it works on CM variants too.

I'm actually kinda new to tasker but I tried this and it worked.

So Profile> State>Net> Wifi Connected > ( leave blank for all wifi networks or put name of your home network only, i have it blank so it saves battery and better reception for anywhere where I'm connected to wifi)

Then add the task "2g" ( or whatever you named it)

The "2g" task has an action : Net>Mobile Data 2g/3g> Set Mode to "2g Only"

Since its a system setting it'll stay that way as long as the state is true and once the state is no longer true (wifi is not connected) it'll revert the previous state - 2g/3g.

If you goes dont want to do it this way there is an app called "2g toggle" here on the forum somewhere. I used to use that until I started using tasker since it eliminated the need for all these other apps. It had some cool features like, switch to 2g when screen is off, or wifi is connected, or low battery etc.

Also in AOKP I have a 2g toggle on my notification bar so I can switch whenever I want to..

Llama also has the 2g feature but it didnt work for me, i think it may only work on CM

---------- Post added at 04:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 PM ----------

You're welcome! Yeah it kinda sucks that I dont have good hspa reception at home but with wifi I dont need it anyways. Nope, N4 has no wifi calling cause its a tmobile feature and this is pure android. Yes there is a hack but I believe it doesnt really replace wifi calling, its an alternative but from what I saw people have to call you on a different number.. like google voice. Which defeats the purpose cause you could do that with many apps. toggle 2g is an app, I think you can get it from the play store but if you find the actual xda thread theres more instructions and details there.
[Nexus 4 General] tuan209:
I hope this gets done but we may have to wait until the Motorola X phone before their is a stockish ROM phone that has wifi calling.

Ive had every Nexus phone and the only one that people got the wifi calling to work on was the N1.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I will. I'm trying to dig into it now. This thing is bigger than the Note 2 Rom :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Saml01:
Also let us know if there is any work you can delegate. I know I am not speaking only for myself when I say people are willing to assist in any way they can.
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
CM10 now available for the S4. Didn't get a chance to check whether it includes wifi calling or not. Not sure if that's any more useful than the system dump already available.
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
100000% not.
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
Any progress? :D
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
It's either probably being worked on very quietly behind the scenes or it's on hold to see if people can work with other devices to make it work for us.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I got a good DL finally. Gonna probably make a Test on Thursday. Today is pretty packed for me sadly. I was hoping that they would have made it more compact but seems like it's the same setup as the L9/SGS3/GN2 but the plus is that the files are actually made for this version of android. Just hope the TouchmeWhiz Crap doesn't impede me...But I'm sure it will have some effect. :/
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Just did my 1st Test with the SGS4 files. It looks like Something happened. I got no popup for WiFi Calling but it did do the "Updating Apps" thing when I rebooted.

The App is larger than the other ones and it looks like it has more items in it which are for the buttons. This COULD mean that they are trying to make this more encapsulated but there are still things that need to be included.

I'm gonna try a few more files and see if I get anywhere.
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
Woo hoo! Progress, slowly but surely.
[Nexus 4 General] scottricketts:
I just read the HTC One will have it as well, I just ordered mine for this reason only.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
T-Mobile BRANDED Phones have this feature. The Nexus is not a T-Mobile Branded phone.
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
Wow....I really thought this would be done and working by now :( I've tried every alternative available, and none are that good. I'd really love to have this!

Put me down for $10 usd :D
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
In other news the iPhone doesn't have WiFi calling either. I wonder why...

Wait I know why, same reason as the Nexus 4. No carrier intervention with the software. Plain and simple.
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
WOW!
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
You can only hope. :P

Also I'm willing to contribute more, it'll keep me from wanting a galaxy s 4, Wi-Fi calling is one of the reasons I'd switch. If we get this working I'll put in $50 instead of $20.
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Just had my softball game we won and I'm drunk!

!? Wron't thread
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
But the nexus 4 is easily accessed and has a huge user base, getting it on our phone may be possible.

Any idea if it'll be on one specific Rom or just dependent on the kernel?
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
Shouldn't be kernel dependant but more Rom most likely.
[Nexus 4 General] papadrugio:
This script kiddie really appreciates all the hard work you guys do. I registered just so I could hit that thanks button a few times.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I am going to need to take apart the APK as well as the other linking APKs. For certain the SGS4 Wifi Calling APK needs to be altered but shouldn't be too tough.
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
I hope it's as easy as you're making it sound!
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Well assuming the rumor of a Google edition of the sgs4 is true we may have our port.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
If it is true I am betting it will lack this feature
[Nexus 4 General] gregcapps:
T-Mobile WiFi calling needs kernel support plus a WiFi calling enabled sim card also.
[Nexus 4 General] nexicon:
Exactly. Wouldn't it lack it?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] vinay427:
I don't think it's so much a specific SIM card, but more of a provision on your account that you can add by calling T-mobile. That's the last I've heard, anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
The very old sim cards needed replaced for it to work. Doubt any have those in a N4 though unless they cut a very old one down. We're talking very old...

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[Nexus 4 General] vinay427:
Oh ok, that makes more sense. :)