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[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It also needs a supporting RILs (I remember it from my Sensation CM days), so frankly there is very little chance it happening.
[Nexus 4 General] Saml01:
Thats quite upsetting. Wifi-calling is a very very convenient feature and one that I used every day since ditching my Sensation.
[Nexus 4 General] arvonn:
Ril support should not be the case with the ims based calling which the new WiFi calling is based on.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Possibly and Possibly not.

It's very possible this could be like the G2 Series (HTC G2 and LG G2X) where the Carriers are allowed to add the extras they want but Google will update the phone. (Similar to the Verizon and Sprint GNex). Anyway I'm sure we will know more in an hour or 3 from now.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
The G2 series were not updated by Google, the looked vanilla, but in reality they had HTC/LG bloat underneath it.
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
Now confirmed true. Now we just need to see if T-Mobile will make wifi calling for it or not...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/15/google-samung-galaxy-s-4-running-stock-android/
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Why would they? This isn't a T-Mobile phone. It's an unlocked international phone.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
Yeah I highly doubt that it will come with WiFi calling. Its a "Nexus experience" phone.
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
Nope, it's shipping fully stock. It looks like you're our only hope for Wi-Fi calling.
[Nexus 4 General] joshua.justice:
I can help test anything you need.
[Nexus 4 General] ragnarokx:
Help us oh-ga-mi... you're our only hope.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] arvonn:
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the .....Source....code.
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
So true.

I can't wait for the day I check this thread & the problem is solved.
[Nexus 4 General] nexicon:
So the s3 has a 4.2.2 leak. Didn't check if it was t-mobile version or not but can we not sure something from that for our missing link?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] tehSecret:
Since this is open question night on this thread , can I ask why ppl don't read before they ask/say anything that has been posted a bajillion time before? I say this because Im tired of getting excited whenever there is a new post on this thread only to be let down by some random jack hole. Im looking forward for progress on this project just like everyone else.
[Nexus 4 General] nexicon:
I hope I'm not the "jack hole" you're referring to. I've been with this thread since inception and have barely voiced my opinion. I follow this thread with every update too, so I'm aware (mostly) if there has been a question already answered. If I did actually make the mistake of repeating a question...well then my apologies.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Whoa there, I don't see any needs for posts like that. Like my mom always said ",if you don't have anything nice to say, then you shouldn't say anything at all" ;) lol
[Nexus 4 General] algorhythm:
...says someone contributing not a single thing to this thread. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
Good news guys, Tmo wifi calling coming soon to nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] nexicon:
?!?? Source???

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ragnarokx:
He's just trolling :/
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Just an update for you.

I have been swamped with real life stuff so it'll be a couple of weeks or so til I can get back on this.

I haven't given up, just need to pause for a bit for RL stuff and then I can attack it head on full force.
[Nexus 4 General] NeKr0MAtiK:
Appreciate it bub. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] bluewarp:
I wouldn't be surprised to see it make it officially from T-Mobile. I've been told by two reps in store now that it's imminent and the update will be coming soon. I also contacted the executive team about a few complaints I have had, only to be told by the Executive Customer Relations team that:

So take it with a grain of salt, but that's what they keep telling me. I'm not holding my breath.
[Nexus 4 General] biggiephat:
The grainiest of salts.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Agreed

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
As I mentioned in my look at the WiFi Calling app for the SGS4 it looks like T-Mo has moved more files into the WiFi Calling app showing that they are moving in the direction of making it a self contained app. The size is over twice that of the SGS3 version and has a number of files that were housed elsewhere in the system. With each new phone and system update they could be pushing more files to the App. But they still have a long way to go as there is still Libs frameworks and 3 other APKs that need to be added without causing instability.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
That's good news - I'd love to be wrong! :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
T-Mobile isn't releasing WiFi Calling for the Nexus 4. Trust me. The only way we are getting it is if someone ports it. Google isn't releasing an update with T-Mobile software installed.

If it is going to be released by T-Mobile it'll have to be installed in the Play Store. And, from the signs of it, if they are heading in a direction of a singular app, that'll be possible.
[Nexus 4 General] Dungeon47:
I reckon it would be wise for them to release a standalone app. The biggest problem I see with T-mo is the limited reach of their network, and this would solve a lot of that at less effort on their part.
[Nexus 4 General] angryGTS:
I agree with you but a couple of Windows Phones are now starting to get WiFi calling via OTA update, yes I know that is a different scenario but considering how locked down Windows Phone 8 is this gives me a little bit more optimism for Tmo possibly either releasing a stand alone app or somehow giving Nexus 4 users a possibility of flashing WiFi Calling to the phone but before they try anything like that it has to be idiot proof and I am sure they are nowhere near that stage so I believe a stand alone app is much more feasible.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I don't know how far along they are but if going by the way the SGS4 WiFi Calling app is built they still have a long way to go. That said though, assuming this is a build that was made around the time 4.2.2 dropped to AOSP they would have been working on improving it for about 3 months now so who knows where they stand at.
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
WP8 has never had a rule against carrier or company software. They have had bloat ware preinstalled since the beginning. Its nothing new to see one more piece added.
[Nexus 4 General] kmandel:
Is the expectation that the Google S4 will NOT have wifi calling even though the T-mobile S4 does?
[Nexus 4 General] Jaxidian:
Correct. Only T-Mobile devices get this.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Saml01:
So how about we take this $1400 bounty, turn it into a kickstarter and outsource the development to India.

Probably the most time and cost effective way to get this done. To fan the flames a bit, I have an ex-colleague that works for TCS. To get the particulars would literally be a facebook message away.
[Nexus 4 General] droidkevlar:
This sounds like a great idea!
[Nexus 4 General] damiloveu:
For my understanding, you can use talkatone or Mo+ to make a call or text message for free via Google Voice. It seems no differences with T-Mobile WIFI Calling.
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
The T-Mobile WiFi Calling app uses your own phone number with nothing to setup, either on or off.
[Nexus 4 General] benderunit9000:
Except its not T Mobile WiFi calling and that is what this is all about
[Nexus 4 General] mailboy1412:
I'll put in $10 if wifi calling tmobile works.
[Nexus 4 General] ihakim:
I've given up hope :(
[Nexus 4 General] michaelg1030:
Pretty much. If you've been using the Nexus 4 for this long without WiFi calling than you probably don't need it. Had WiFi calling been an absolute necessity you would have sold the N4 and went to a different T-mo phone.
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Agreed. Or you wouldn't get a n4 on the whim that somehow it would be completed by a Dev within the phones life cycle.
[Nexus 4 General] ihakim:
Exactly! It's definitely nice when I'm working in the research lab and don't have service in some procedure rooms...but I've adapted. I certainly don't expect WiFi calling to come around, but if it does in the next two years I'll gladly use it.
[Nexus 4 General] Queena:
I'm not sure if T-Mo is fooling me or what. When I ordered my N4, I was told that I would get free wifi calling. After researching, I realized that the N4 doesn't even allow wifi calling. I called in to T-Mo to complain about being lied too. They told me that the N4 COULD receive wifi calling, I just have the wrong kind of sim card. They're sending me this supposedly wifi enabled sim card for free, but what exactly is it? Are they pulling my leg? I didn't know there were many different types of sim cards!
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
There is a sim that is used for the newer ims WiFi calling on T-Mobile branded phones (sgs3 etc). There is no way currently to get WiFi calling on the nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
The techs are under the (wrong) impression that the N4 can do wifi calling. I'm not sure why they are being told that. SIM card isn't going to make a difference without the software to run the actual calls.
[Nexus 4 General] liquidnails:
True. It would be nice to have it on my N4. I would never give up my nexus for a galaxy series phone. I have a backup wifi calling enabled phone to use while I'm at home, which is not very long seeing how I work 7-6 every day. But sadly to say I'm beginning to give up hope as well :( But my donation has raised to $50 if it just might happen. Good luck devs.
[Nexus 4 General] khanh1289:
Cant receive calls..
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
it actually can.............
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I think the WiFi calling from the new lg phone could be ported but it depends on if it is on jb or not.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Technically that could be possible but only if it gets updated to 4.2. Right now the optimus g is only on 4.1. Might be a nightmare though because you might have to include other frameworks in there.

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] plznote:
Is it still not on ICS?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Jelly bean 4.1

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] NardVa:
I'm pretty sure its possible if a Tmobile LG phone already has the feature. I think it was done with the Nexus One back in the day.
[Nexus 4 General] killswitch11:
Its not at all clear if this is even possible or not. There are work-arounds plenty, but the one thing I really REALLY miss from my trusty HTC G2 is wi-fi calling. I live in a black hole and that feature enabled me to, well, use my phone. And save a LOT of juice on battery with a nice stable wi-fi signal rather than the epileptic cell signal I get in this townhouse. I'd happily toss $20+ in the pot to make this happen.
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
The WiFi calling feature is used in a different way than what Skype and other VOIP services provide. T-Mobile WiFi calling is an extension of their network. Allowing you to make and receive phone calls using your T-Mobile number when connected to a WiFi network
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
You also avoid using minutes while on WiFi calling
[Nexus 4 General] ceroglu:
For me wifi calling is one of the best feature of t-mobile and I would love to see this on my N4 as well. I will also give $20 for a fully working wifi calling mod. Keep in mind, if you travel overseas this feature is a true life saver. You can use your phone anywhere with wifi connection like you are back at home with no roaming charges. Not to mention wifi calling minutes are free so you won't get charged for extra minutes either.
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
It can.

I used grooveIP perfectly to make/receive calls from another country, and with Google voice I could text.. It worked great.

Not saying Wifi Calling wouldn't be awesome, but it is a good solution for now.
[Nexus 4 General] killswitch11:
I'm still on a grandfathered plan, so I would burn minutes using wi-fi calling. Small tradeoff though considering the benefits. It was most impressive this past summer during a camping excursion when I was able to use the wi-fi network at a ranger station, in the middle of No-Mans-Land where no carrier had any hope of a signal, to make an urgent phone call. I fell in love with the feature on that day.
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Why not just use grooveip and Google voice? Then you get WiFi calls and free texts. You can even use the native dialer to dial
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
When using T-Mobile wifi calling, it DOES use up your minutes (otherwise they'd be giving you free service)
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
No it doesn't. When using WiFi calling, minutes aren't used. I work for T-Mobile, I know lol.
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
If its not working for you on some devices, you might not have a 911 address attached to your account or have the free WiFi calling code.

I can check it out pretty easily and see what's up when I go into work.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Yeah just googled and saw its a change from 2011. I just came back to T-Mobile on my Nexus after a 3 year run with the death star so it's all news to me

http://androidandme.com/2011/05/car...i-calling-will-no-longer-use-in-plan-minutes/
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
That sounds amazing actually. So, I still don't understand this completely. Some people say Wi-Fi calling is impossible to get on the Nexus 4 while others say it might be. Any reason I should get my hopes up?
[Nexus 4 General] Tenji7:
180 so far, not good enough for dev I think. If I needed this, I would help put up couple hundred. Anyway wifi calling use your minute unless you add the free wifi calling feature to your account under service, you know where you add data and insurance.
[Nexus 4 General] pajamas95:
$20 here

Will pay $20 for this. Stuck using GrooveIP right now, and it is horrible. Breaks up with a 2 second lag time. Doesn't ring till 3 seconds before it goes to voice mail. Also uses tons of my Nexus 4's battery. Running Liquidsmooth rooted.
[Nexus 4 General] liquidnails:
Yeah I bought groove ip which was a regret. Horrible sound quality.
[Nexus 4 General] bisby:
Now I'm curious... I too am using groove ip. Which requires google voice number. So now everyone has my google voice number.A) is talkatone any better, B) how will outbound calls work with wifi calling + google voice. I know google voice hijacks the outbound call on the stock dialer to send using your google voice number, but will it work with wifi calling app?

My girlfriend has simply been making calls using google talk while at home. Hopefully google hangouts new app will have phone calls as part of the "eventual google voice integration" and that will meet 100% of my wifi calling needs.
[Nexus 4 General] michaelg1030:
I know this isn't a solution, but a cheap and effective solution to those that REQUIRE WiFi calling in certain places, but want an N4.

Wifi calling works great on the Windows Nokia Lumia 521. It's only $130. Swap your Sim card in when you need to make a WiFi call. I bought one last week and it's an OK phone, but not an everyday phone. Was going to keep it just for this reason, but WiFi calling is rarely needed for me.
[Nexus 4 General] liquidnails:
That's pretty much what I do myself.. I use my old Samsung exhibit with a third line that cost only $5/month extra. WiFi calling works greats with stock on that phone. Love my N4 and would never trade up. There's way to many other ways of communication now with Facebook, hangouts, etc.
[Nexus 4 General] Snorbro:
Any update on this?
[Nexus 4 General] illru:
There needs to be more 4.2.2 roms with WiFi calling to come out so a Dev can pick them apart. Non touch wiz would be nice I would think.

So no real update for now.
[Nexus 4 General] Das_mobile:
Im in for $10... Would love Wi-Fi calling
[Nexus 4 General] xdajdindc:
I'm in for $20. This feature would save me a lot of headache when overseas.
[Nexus 4 General] vaindil:
Dang, I was really looking forward to this feature with T-Mobile. Oh well....
[Nexus 4 General] simpat1zq:
I was at the T-Mobile store yesterday, and asked the girl why the Nexus 4 costs $130 more than at the Play Store, and she said that it's because it can do Wifi calling. I'm pretty sure she was wrong about that, but can anyone just confirm if that's the case or not?
[Nexus 4 General] Scallywag1:
She's wrong. They usually are.
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
She's wrong. The T-Mobile reps are under the impression that all high-end phones they offer have Wifi calling. Spoke with a rep the other day and he was under the same impression. Asked him to check the documentation for me and he said the official documentation did not mention wifi calling for the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] simpat1zq:
Yeah. You are probably right. They also told me that Tmobile will give me a signal booster if I don't have a good signal at home. And it turns out that they don't give those out any more.
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
Actually they do, they just don't have enough to go around. My neighbor has one & they're jumping to AT&T next month...they're going to try to give me their booster if T-Mo will let them.
[Nexus 4 General] simpat1zq:
They don't give them out any more. From what they told me, and from what I read, they stopped giving those out about 2 weeks ago(Just got T-Mobile 2 days ago).
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
OK, makes sense than...they've had theirs for about 3 months now.
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
I called and asked for one about two weeks ago, and was told:

(1) they are only for post-paid customers

(2) they are out until at least the end of the summer, and that's assuming they ever restock them (I'm guessing they need new models to support LTE)

(3) they will never be available/supported for prepaid users

Now here's my thought on this....I'm currently on the unlimited 4g $70 prepaid plan. If I switch to post-paid I will be hit with all kinds of taxes and fees, plus the $50 (refundable) deposit they told me I need. I get that deposit back after one year if I pay my bill on time every month. If I don't pay my bill on time even once (even if I forget and call immediately after my service is cut) I lose that $50 deposit. GO SCRATCH YOUR ARSE, TMO!!! I'm not paying more every month (plus a deposit) just to ensure my signal is usable when I already pay you $70 a month for that to happen. Also, I tend to forget to pay my bill. Having no phone while I find the time to get a top-up is no big deal....being hit with a $50 penalty just because I forgot one time is not acceptable.

Here's a novel idea.....TMO: FIX YOUR NETWORK AND NONE OF THIS WILL BE NECESSARY!!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Stryder5:
I called and complained about bad signal. They opened a support ticket for me instead of offering the free extender. Called back twice since they never updated me. Was told the ticket was escalated the first time to higher up support. Second time, was told they're now upgrading the towers in my area. No ETA so had them note to call me back when it's completed. I'll call to check up on it in 2 weeks.

Either way, call and complain. They won't know anything is wrong if you don't voice your complaints.

However, even if they fix the network, I'm expecting to be working in large buildings with some lead walls so I don't think better reception will help me in some parts of this building. Hoping to get wifi calling to get around that problem :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] quailallstar:
Valid points! If you don't call and voice your frustration(s) to T-Mobile then how are they supposed to know our individual gripes? :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] seshaz:
Anything someone that works at tmo tells you is usually wrong. I bought mine at T-Mobile and it has no WiFi calling
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
I actually went to my local tmo store about a week ago because my phone wasn't getting a data signal, and found out the store manager is actually a member of this community and has been active since the motorola milestone days. I was shocked because, like you said, this is not exactly the usual circumstance, but there are always exceptions to the rule!
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
I just got a booster sent to me three days ago for my bad service. Granted I have compained before and have been a customer for 10 years whatever that's worth
[Nexus 4 General] nh777:
I'm in for $20 after porting from StraightTalk to the $30 unlimited plan and finding out that checking voicemail counts against the 100 minutes...
[Nexus 4 General] kfreem02:
Get t-mobile's visual voicemail. Using it to get messages does not use talk time.
[Nexus 4 General] jaed.43725:
Even if the ROM has to be TouchWiz to be used so I can get Wifi calling I could care less. I am not a dev, but I can see little to no reason why one of the devs around here can't use a S4 based ROM. Take a look at the Infamous S4 ROM, guy made it just like AOSP but its still TW with WiFi calling working.

On a side note I should probably learn to dev.
[Nexus 4 General] lion7718:
It really doesn't have anything to do with TouchWiz or Samsung as all/most T-Mobile branded phones have Wi-Fi calling...I think mid-phone & higher. Anyway, I hope somebody finds a way soon...one of my friends house is in a cell phone dead zone for the big 4...Wi-Fi calling was a must there.
[Nexus 4 General] nh777:
Awesome. Had no idea tmo offered it.
[Nexus 4 General] blankit:
With that much money at stake is think someone would have made this possible already.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It's never coming.
[Nexus 4 General] jaed.43725:
Why do you say that?
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
You have to remember that this is closed sourced with closed sourced files needed to run it. It is not a simple matter to get it working without them.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] dcd1182:
yeah, but the closed-source files are available.

its just a matter of trial and error to determine which parts need to be brought over.

its been done for many devices in the past.. nobody has had the time to finish it for this device. its not any less doable
[Nexus 4 General] jassycliq:
I prefer using Google Voice for my voicemail. Same thing basically but better IMO since it can sync with phone app.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
If it was only a matter of time the bounty would have been enough for the time needed. Just because the files are available doesn't mean they can make it work on a device that was never intended to have it. Most other times there was a device that it could be brought over from that already had it and was pretty much the same. Not so much with the nexus and aosp

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] jassycliq:
It's not longer that easy. Before it used to just be some libs and an app. Since Android 4.x+ (iirc) it started to become cooked into the framework itself. I remember reading that some developers had the username and some of the other info but no password, so even a VoIP app wouldn't work. (Honestly think it was more of an legality issue)
[Nexus 4 General] pwc realtor:
Yup they switched from Kineto in 2.3 to IMS in 4.0 and above. I noticed that Wi-Fi calling went from working fine in a G2x to being horrible on an Amaze. The IMS implementation is unreliable and when it does work has a voice delay that makes having a conversation almost impossible.
[Nexus 4 General] sf_smith:
Does CM10.1 give us anymore flexibility?

The rom went stable a week or so back and I just updated my N4 to it. I recall back in the CM7 days the wifi calling was included but as most on this thread said, it is a framework implementation and not an app and drivers anymore. CM10.1 could be a good foundation to try the implements anyone is working on.

Do none of the CM roms include wifi calling anymore? I would see that as a solid loss if you had that feature in a 'skin' rom.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
No. None of them do as it is not open source.

Wayne Tech Nexus