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[Nexus 4 General] Kenneth131:
For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] derPianist:
+1 on this.
[Nexus 4 General] jayharper08:
I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] 666fff:
Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.
[Nexus 4 General] AB33:
The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).

I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.

Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.

It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.

I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.

I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
[Nexus 4 General] qreffie:
I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.
[Nexus 4 General] Alwyna:
That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.

Sent from my SGS II
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...

This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)

Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.

To me GT-I9305 FTW
[Nexus 4 General] Maltadav:
I'm from Malta too, and I don't know how you've just come to terms to accepting to buy the Nexus 4 at around 100 to 150 euros more than it's selling everywhere else in Europe.

At €349 it sounds awesome. Good hardware (albeit thermal downclocking, read the Anandtech review), snappy, and most importantly - unbloated interface without any extra "addons" draining your memory plus fast, free upgrades from Google.

Choosing between these two phones at exactly the same price, I'd choose the nexus. I don't care all that much about the lack of an SD card slot, I don't have more than 1-2Gb of music and a few games and apps. It's also possible to connect an external USB drive or even USB hard disk if you want to, but I'm not really interested.

I'd probably still get the nexus if it was more expensive than the Galaxy S3. Let alone 100-150 euros cheaper.
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
This is what I don't get. This is XDA. This is where you come to root your phone and flash any rom you want. Why would anyone put a phone down because of the factory software on it is beyond me. I had my brand new S3 running CM10 in no time.
[Nexus 4 General] calanizzle:
People tend to prefer stock sometimes, since in our minds, we think Google will develop the best software for their phones, right?

Although I love to customize and flash my phone, I'll def try stock first and give it a try.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
I won't call N4 muuuuch better phone than S3... Is better in Only 3 out of 8 aspects (3D much better, rest very close........) S3 was better in 5 out of 8.....

One conclusion: BOTH PHONES ROCKS!!! :D
[Nexus 4 General] nikhil381:
I want to know if I should by nexus 4 or i9305 quad core 2 GB ram galaxy s3. The diff in price is 100 chf here
[Nexus 4 General] Rob4828:
The s3 is becoming the iphone of the android world
[Nexus 4 General] dieselfatal:
Had a friend of mine come over last night for some alcoholic beverages :D brought over his International GT-I9300. I had this phone on launch date and after using it for some time I sold it. I didn't sell the phone because I didn't like it I sold it because I was gonna buy Note 2. So we put two phones side by side. Ran 4-5 different benchmarks and his S3 beat my N4 in every benchmark. BUT BUT BUT you can CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY tell that N4 was: FASTER, SMOOTHER, just overall a smoother and well oiled machine compared to S3. S3 is very fast but for some reason it seems TOO FAST that the phone starts to malfunction. Same thing with Note 2. I can safely say N4 is the smoothest ad fastest Android device Ive ever used. I mean there is ZERO LAG, I dont have any force closed apps where in Note 2 or GS3 I would get tons.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
I've paid for Brand New, Unopened

£370.. it's £90 more than N4 but it's in Stock and for most people fast enough...

????? Hahaha...

iPhone= glass everywhere, no SD card, fixed battery = N4 but never S3 (i9305) !!!!!

Or you're talking about popularity? ;)
[Nexus 4 General] phositadc:
Lol is it really that much different from a giant nexus logo on the back? I know you are going to say that you think the nexus logo is cool and operator logos suck, but they are both advertisements, and essentially the same concept.

-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Sammy fanboys all over the place here lol.

I always happen to see the same comments when someone argues about an iPhone: " HAHAHAHHAAHA you tell me its ****? Its the best phone around! quadcore processor is so faaaast " In fact they don't even know the difference between 32nm and 24nm technology in terms of energy efficiency or performance ~ battery life.

I can only wish to see people discussing about two Android phones in a normal way, you know, both have their own advantages and disadvantages. Most people won't buy the Nexus as it's more a dev device rather than for the average customer, unlike the S3 and all other phones made by third party manufacturers except Google itself(leaving out the iPhone as there is nothing to say about iSheeps anymore).

I personally prefer the Nexus 4 over the S3 because its stock Android(you can get TW,Sony,Sense themes whenever you want + even the launchers if you dont like stock Android) and therefor CM/AOKP is fully working from the first build with only minor bugs around.

I am not a Google fanboy, I just like the way the Nexus 4 looks. I am currently on the Sony Xperia S running AOKP M1 which is quite smooth, but you can nearly feel the Snapdragon S3 going to its limits even when playing games like Temple Run and Sony can not even get out a nice, fast and bug free software, even Sense is much faster than sonys stock ICS.

With the Nexus you will always be up to date, not only first, you can be sure to have the latest version on it(be it custom or official).
[Nexus 4 General] rbrucemtl:
I want the N4 to be all that, but the GS3 is my baby.

Hi :)

First I want to say that I do not own the N4 and refuse to buy it with only 12GB usable storage. :confused: So I will admit this post is a little one sided but I think it is still valid for anyone looking for information on the subject. ( I've also read every review and these forums outright so I have a very good idea of what the N4 brings to the table and the way it looks on paper vs the real world.) also... I want the N4 to be a big success but I am absolutely not convinced yet.

Out of the box the GS3 ( S4 CPU ) is fine but I hated the fisherprice touchwiz stuff... after customization the phone really shines.

The N4 looks wonderful on paper. The specs are kicka** but it throttles at 60C and thats unlike any phone I've owned so the way it looks on paper in not realistic unless you put it in the freezer. That said all the videos and reviews of the N4 make it look like it's still as smooth as butter and performing better then the GS3.

My GS3 - i747 with custom kernel OC to 1.8GHz and Android 4.2 is amazing, great battery life, 80GB storage. I absolutely, positively, love AMOLED and defend it... the technology is just magic and no one can change my mind about that. :)

Samsung made the boot-loader unlock-able from the beginning and I have been running a custom AOSP based ROMs from day one... the benchmarks are now better then the Stock Touchwiz ROM and even better then the N4 in a lot of cases I've seen but I understand that the N4 is throttling and thats also turning me off from it.

The N4 is also unlocked and should have better AOSP support so my idea would be to adjust the 60C throttle to 80C like my GS3 but that would be foolish because LG set it to 60C for some unknown reason... ( I think to prevent the yellow screen spots from showing their ugly faces ) so all the people making custom ROMs for the N4 should be very very careful as they could be in for a surprise.

I like the looks of the N4 a lot more but feels a lot more fragile. I've tested the Optimus G and the paper thin glass back is in my opinion very dumb design (but it does look good)… It's the area of the phone that get the most abuse and made of such a paper thin peace of gorilla glass that the properties of gorilla glass don't even apply. I don't need to own the phone to get that.

So for now I'm extremely happy with my GS3 but I have been able to customize is to my taste so it's not for everyone I guess.

If the N4 gets 32GB+ storage I will buy it but but I will not part with the GS3 easily.
[Nexus 4 General] phositadc:
ROFLMAO! Hey brotato, you do realize that the S4 pro in your beloved nexus is not fully open source, either, right? It has proprietary elements just like Exynos, broseph. Why do you think nexus 4 is not part of the AOSP yet?

Pwn3d!!!1!1one!!1

-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
Sammy made 2 of the four Nexus phones.

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LOL! Learn to root and flash ROMs!
[Nexus 4 General] Rob4828:
I mean in popularity, which is a good thing.:)
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Judging from this thread, I would say that comment applies to the N4 more than any Android based phone I have seen in a looooong time. All the hardware defects that you guys joked on the iPhone for (non removable battery, glass back, limited storage, no lte) are now prevalent in your phone...Haha. I have no issues with the iPhone or the N4...I personally think both are HUGELY over hyped, but the more good phones out there the better as far as I'm concerned. Keep em coming!
[Nexus 4 General] Custodian:
Enough said.
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Very well said
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
The reason why you dont see benchmark comparisons on my videos is because they mean absolutely nothing.

I think people is looking as the n4 to be better than it actually is. In the car world we call that "butt-dyno" when you get a mod that actually doesnt do anything for power but u feel like it
[Nexus 4 General] NardVa:
S3 is a nice phone, but you can't get an off contract S3 for under 400.00. They still run about 550.00 to 600.00. That's the main reason I'm getting a Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Latest Antutu 3 is compatible with the Nexus 4, and shows it clearly beats the score of the S3 by a few thousand points.

Same with geekbench, shows the nexus 4 scoring over 2000, which I've never seen another device do.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Most logical reason I have read on here yet
[Nexus 4 General] outz:
I have both devices... Benchmarks aside, the n4 is such a pleasure to use. The build quality feels so much more solid. Wi-Fi range seems much improved as well.

Also vanilla android is definitely the way to go. Touch wiz is just meh... And cm10/aokp, while the developers are doing a fantastic job the roms still have their issues.
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
Keep in mind that there are 2 flavours of S3s (as far as I know). One is a quad-core with 1GB or RAM. The other is a dual-core with 2GB or RAM. The extra RAM probably makes a lot more difference than those 2 extra cores.
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
If you knew what i can do with Android devices..:rolleyes:

Dont be that fan.

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This.
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
Thanks for this, I'll have a watch later

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
First of all, I'm not Sammy Fanboy.... Just sharing my opinion and to me S3 LTE is better than N4.... Personal Taste Matter....

Second of all... WTF are you talking about???!!! 24nm technology for SmartPhones doesn't exist yet..... S4 Pro is 28nm ...... Maybe it's better for battery but Thermal Throttling at 60' is ridicules.....

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Wrong.... What about S3 LTE (i9305) Quad Core @1.4 + 2GB Ram... Rocks ;)
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
I gave an example, I could also have said 28nm to 32 or whatever and see this OH MY GOD its 22nm :eek:eek:OOOOOO : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)

stay informed.

oh and for the thermal throttling, thats not a CPU issue, its software.
[Nexus 4 General] gdap:
My sister-in-law is visiting us and she has a red S3.

In terms of how you use the phone, the S3 and the N4 are both great.

There is no doubt the galaxy S3's success, it's super fast, great camera, tons of accessories and great carrier /Samsung/ and modding support.

For my sis-in-law's purposes, this is a great phone and it's easy to recommend to just about anyone.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Hmmm.... I'm informed and as far as I know this is ANDROID WORLD not COMPUTER WORLD with Intel i7 or whatever....

Throttling issue is an issue and it shouldn't happened to SuperDuper Phone.... IMO....

Better battery life in N4??? Hmmm... So far I'm still testing battery in my i9305 and it's much better comparing to my old SGS2 or even N4... 14hrs+ (including 3hrs+ screen on, 30+ min talk time, Vellamo & Antutu Tests, WiFi ON) 50% battery left..... Not Bad at All... ;)

ps. Look at N4 Battery Stats... This is better than S3 LTE??? 15% left when I've got 50% with slightly more usage... STOCK BATTERY...
[Nexus 4 General] Kushblow:
Hahaha S3.

Enjoy squinting at your pentile screen. Even the Note 2 has a better display. The S3 uses green subpixels as a base which is just atrocious.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
It is not necessarily about what is better, it is about what you like They are both awesome phones and have their own special features.

Personally I think the n4 is better for me and I believe it is a better phone but that is just my opinion.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Which Android version is the S3 running on? 4.1.1 i suppose which already had many bugfixes and is not new. 4.2 is new compared to 4.1 jellybean, you really don't seem to know what your talking about man.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
And enjoy your cracked glass, lack of storage space, sub par battery life and slower connection speeds. We could go back and forth all day...just enjoy the phone you have.
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
Saying that the S3 is bad because of TouchWiz is like saying a PC is bad because of Windows. The OS is not an issue when you can install another OS.

And my point is not to defend the S3, but to point out how silly some arguments are.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Hmmmm... Not sure if i9300 and i9305 have different displays but I've got i9305 with HD SUPER AMOLED and Love it...

????????? WTH is wrong with you?????? Now we talking about differences in Android Versions?? It's obvious 4.2 is newer but it's NOT Major Upgrade from 4.1.1....... Android Support will be always better for N4 as it's Google product... No doubt about... But that's NOT my point mate...

END OF STORY
[Nexus 4 General] rani9990:
This thread is one of the greatest examples of first world problems ever. Kinda funny really.
[Nexus 4 General] MrPhilo:
I hate people like you, you can't HARDLY see the difference without it being side by side, you have to look really close to the device to see the problem. I've had the S3 myself before and it just looked perfectly fine, just because you seem some reviews criticizing it doesn't mean its actually bad, the pentile display isn't that bad, it still looks sharp and the amoled helps it. Plus reviews and other who complain about amoled oversaturated colour there is a frigging option in display to change to natural (Dynamic, Natural, Movie etc).

Also everyone has difference taste in skin. I myself like the looks of Pure Stock Android, but Samsung has really optimized Touchwiz to work well with its devices in terms of performance, battery etc. I mean any AOSP (CM10, AOKP) you put on your device isn't going to last longer than the stock rom. The Nexus 4 is an example, thats why the LG Optimus G peforms better in its battery department WITH ICS, it should improve with Jelly Bean as S3 did.

I have the Asus Padfone 2, it's really close to stock android. But i'll be getting the Nexus 4 anyways, just because the price isn't that bad.
[Nexus 4 General] PoisonWolf:
Some of you guys really need to get out and see the sun a little more. Lol.

S3, Note 2 and the Nexus 4 are all great phones IMHO. Why bother with the pasture that's perceived to be greener? Be happy with what you got and stop feeling so insecure about your purchase. At the end of the day, it's a phone and not some pissing contest tool.
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Both phones are great ..again ..if you ask which one is better ? My response will be "the one that you have in your pocket"
[Nexus 4 General] ghettopops:
+1

I have a GS2, Gnote and now N4. I am very happy with all. To be honest I would like a GN2 annnnd SG3 along with my Nexus. I am a phone junky and will probablybuy the Next Great Thing when that comes out. I just like phones and for $299 you CANT beat the ROI.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
nexus has 2gb ram, better screen, CPU/GPU, build and better software/faster updates - all whilst being much cheaper too!

Not everyone needs more storage, if you don't - the choice should be clear - the specs of the Nexus are far better, the fact its much cheaper is just the cherry on top.

As for LTE - unless you live in one of the limited cities and pay a fortune per month for a very limited data cap - here in the UK, its a useless argument - LTE here in the UK has a lot more cons than pros.
[Nexus 4 General] darkcurrent:
This would be a big issue for me if I spent my time looking at my phone under a microscope
[Nexus 4 General] Turb0wned:
I'll take offense to this as my wife uses this phone. You are an idiot.