yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] musical_chairs:
The ROMs are compatible with either recovery, but the OTA updating apps are not. Some newer ROMs use GooManager for OTA updates:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager&hl=en

...and this requires TWRP to automatically flash ROM updates.

Many older ROMs use ROM Manager for updates:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager&hl=en

...and this requires CWM to flash ROMs from within the app.

Any recovery should flash any ROM (the newer versions of TWRP may have trouble with older ROMs due to those having outdated installer binaries), but if you use ROM Manager or GooManager to flash ROMS, you need the recovery that is compatible with the app.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 123421342:
Goo manager needs TWRP to OTA update. I switched from CWM to TWRP and I like TWRP better. IT has a much better interface, scrollable on the touch screen and the backups are compressible.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] normanx:
I tried twrp and could not get it to install a kernel zip. Kept giving an error.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pons:
Probably because of...

So you'll have to get with your kernel dev to update his update-binary.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmlusco:
It is pretty easy to update the files your self. Just open the flashables zip with a zip program like 7zip. Navigate to META-INF/com/google/android. Replace the update-binary in the zip with this one http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/TWRP_2.3.1.0/update-binary compatible with twrp 2.3+.

With the updated binary comes some new coding in the updater-script also. Open the updater-script with a good text editor like Text Pad, do not use notepad or wordpad. Look for mount and format commands that look like this:

format("MTD", "system", "/system");
mount("MTD", "system", "/system");
format("MTD", "cache", "/cache");

And change them to look like this:

format("yaffs2", "MTD", "system", "0", "/system");
mount("yaffs2", "MTD", "system", "/system");
format("ext4", "MTD", "cache", "0", "/cache");

The above is just an example of the formating required for the new binary. Your roms updater-script may have other lines which format or mount other partitions than those listed. Format has 5 arguments "file system of partition - MTD - partition name - 0 - and mount point". Mount has 4 arguments "file system of partition - MTD - partition name - mount point".

If your decent with reading coding and have a little time its not to dificult to accomplish.

If anyone who cant figure it out is interested, i will start a new post in general where i will update your flashable for you. I know a lot of the roms kernels and flashables around arent really supported by their devs anymore, but are still used.

FYI. All flashable files on dinc.does-it.net are now twrp 2.3+ compatible.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Point me in the right direction please :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26516892
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Thanks man :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
I also made one but I'll stay native to xda. My version is debloated, deodexed and tweaked if you are interested.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Please!!!! :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
My home forum..

http://android.aokforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=48#p48
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Hey thanks for the help :) is sd partitioning needed before flashing any rom? Also does doing that delete any saved content on the external sd card.. im somewhat sure it doesnt but just wanna be safe ino i could back up my file on a pc but i dont have one at the moment >_<
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
You need to partition the SD Card if the Rom is A2SD enabled, and you want to use it. Yes it should be done before you flash the Rom. You should also find out what type of partition. Does the the Rom call for an ext.3 , or ext4 partition. If you are going to partition your SD Card you need to make a backup on the PC first. Partitioning the SD Card will wipe the card clean.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
yea im thinking of flashing the sensuASOP and it says to partition to 2 then 3 then 4.

also im gonna use a friends pc to back up my current files but can i restore them back into the sd card once im done with the partition/flashing and my phone is up and running?

***You need to partition the SD Card if the Rom is A2SD enabled, and you want to use it.***

will the rom still work if i just flash it without doing the partition?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CNexus:
Yup, "backing up" and "restoring" is just fancy talk for copy and paste

And yes, the rom will still work if you do not partition your sdcard, but a2sd will not work

Sent from my JB'd speedy
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
okay awesome thanks so much for the help...ALL OF YOU :D.

without a2sd working all apps in download will be on the internal mem then?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
Not all Roms will work. If the Rom is built so that a2sd is enabled automatically, it will not work correctly. Things will be missing. You can have FC issues. In some cases I've had them not even Boot. So it is better to have the SD Card partitioned before you Flash if the ROM calls for it.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Alright sounds good ill give it a shot later on today then :D thanks again really appreciate the help

all the partitioning gets done thru recovery.

so where within recovery is partition actually done?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsoa:
Hey guys, noob here. I am going to be flashing my phone today too.

Death by soaps mod seems to be what I am looking for, but I just want to make sure I am doing everything right.

I have turned s-off with revolutionary and backed up everything with both clockworkmod and smelkusmod and saved everything on my computer.

I am not 100% sure how to continue with partitioning and flashing though. Do you have a recommended guide partitioning and flashing with your mod? I have found some general guides, but they are for other mods and I dont want to screw anything up.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bennyboy78:
Ok. Simple.

1. Move everything on your sd card to your comp.

2. Use smelkusmod as its the best.

3. Go to partition card or something to that extent.

4. Set your desired size, 1 or 2 gigs is good enough, depending on how many apps you have/use.

5. Set swap to 0

6. Wait for it to partition.

7. Upgrade ext from 2 to 3 to 4.

8. Put all your stuff back on the sd card.

Flashing

1. Use format all/superwipe option in wipe menu of smelkus to wipe.

2. Go to flash zip or something like that.

3. Select the file and confirm.

4. Wait for it to do its thing then reboot.

Done!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
***Use smelkusmod as its the best.***

where can i get that? :)

nevermind i found it :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsoa:
Ok thanks, looks like I am up and running. I will report back if smell burning plastic or anything unusual :fingers-crossed:

If I want to mess around with any other mods is there anything special I should do first? Or just repeat the same steps (partition, superwiper, flash)?

Thanks again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bennyboy78:
Nope no need to partition again. That's done. Also you dont need to wipe for mods unless the OP states it.

For Roms, however,(what you just flashed) always do a full wipe/ superwipe and if going between versions of sense and aosp, always wipe the sd ext.

For kernels always wipe cache and dalvik cache before flashing.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
As an extra precaution, I always wipe Cache / Dalvik. Before flashing a Mod.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
So in sensuASOP it says to partition the sd card THEN flash the rom if i have the zip files saved on the sd card wouldnt i lose the zip file hence i cant flash the rom? Or do i flash rom first then partition the sd card?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
Yes partition the SD Card before you Flash the Rom. A few posts back it was posted how to partition your SD Card. Basically back up everything on your SD Card to the PC. Then Boot into Recovery, partition the card. The mount as USB, and load everything back onto the SD Card. You should be able to do it all without rebooting until you Flash.

TEAM MiK

MikROMs Since 3/13/11
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Thank you!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
How do to update the ext 2 then 3 then 4
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
In recovery under the partition menu
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
All it does is ask ext size then swap size then it says done
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
Which recovery do you have?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Cwm >_^ wrong one?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prboy1969:
You can use CWM. But most prefer AmonRa v2.3 . Much more stable on the OG EVO 4G .
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
Amon Ra is good and all but smelkus is truly the top recovery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
Thanks death-by-soap :) ill be trying that recovery btw u recomendend that debloated root stock rom im gonna try that one out later on today :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsoa:
Everything seems to be running smoothly for me, thanks soap. So nice to finally be rid of all of Sprints garbage bloatware (nascar, sprint store, carrier IQ, ect). Only problem I have had is no voicemail notification since the sprint default has been removed. Will probably need to find an alternative from the market.

Why is the rating for this rom so low on your forums soap? Everyone just hates stock?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juan91:
You can use youmail as an alternative voicemail app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soap:
I had a bit of an 'incident' over here. That's the main reason I moved over to android.aok.. I wouldn't be surprised if people followed me and rated it low.

With that aside, glad you are enjoying it! :)
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I'm just amazed on how long the phone keeps apps in memory and how the multitasking is just amazing. Coming from the note 2 where you have to hold the home button to multitask ( or the back button for multi window :D ), here the software on screen buttons makes the multitasking even more seamless. What do you guys think?
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
Big improvement over my s2! I love the onscreen buttons
[Nexus 4 General] TwinkyOfHope:
SO FAST. :)

But seriously, I was completely blown away by how fast the recent menu came up and how fast it was to load an app.
[Nexus 4 General] vitalik228:
No matter how much I try to bog it down I just can't this thing is amazingly fast!!!! Didn't have one single hiccup since pursuing it. Love it.
[Nexus 4 General] Traxex_:
I've to agree.

Really really big leap forward compared to the Galaxy S3.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Yeah its awesome I don't have to worry about Waze constantly closing on me when its in the background

Sent from my forth generation Nexus phone
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Another great thing which is a 4.2 feature I believe, is that when u press the multitasking icon, the app that you're in comes out so you can exit it when you're done. Before it would only show the other apps but not the one you're currently using. Simply awesome!
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Agree, super fast tasking!
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
the onscreen buttons are worth the screen estate.
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
They are indeed! :)
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
That is so true
[Nexus 4 General] Ittoryu:
I agree, it's amazing how fast the multi-tasking is. I'm coming from the G2X so I thought it was just because I hadn't upgraded my phone for a while, but I guess others feel the same way. :D
[Nexus 4 General] jamesey10:
I start up games and apps, and try to trick the phone into stuttering. I cant. is any other stock android close to this?
[Nexus 4 General] lnfound:
I agree. Big tip for everyone to make it even more amazing, get GMD gesture and set top right and left corner, for example, long hold as alt tab. Unbelievably convenient for copy pasting between apps.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
I'll take the multitasking AND the multiview :)
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
Agreed. And I was very skeptical when I bought the Gnex... But loved them ever since then and missed them on the One X.
[Nexus 4 General] unlvmike:
Good to see some people shining some light on one of the many great things the nexus does extremely well among all these negative threads. I agree it is a night and day difference from my galaxy nexus, love it.
[Nexus 4 General] supersain08:
Does having all these apps in the background drain battery ?
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Can anyone comment on how much faster the S4 Pro feel in everyday usage in comparison to the S4 dual?
[Nexus 4 General] Kookas:
They aren't necessarily running, just stored in memory, so it shouldn't do.
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
Can you people verify how many apps can run in background with an easy instant switch ( i mean without loading it again) . It should easily run around 10 apps in background.
[Nexus 4 General] FatalityBoyZahy:
Same here! Haha, I can't believe that I used to think that my G2x was fast. :P
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yeah, this is my favorite improvement over some of the older pre jelly bean versions.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
this isnt really a jelly bean thing...its a massive 2gb of RAM thing..
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I am talking about the option that let's you use multitasking. It is not in some of the older versions of android. My gs1 did not have the ability to click on a button to access other running programs.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
By GS1 do you mean Galaxy S? You can always access the running programs list on the Galaxy S by long pressing the Home button...
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yes, you ate talking about the task manager. Ot is totally different and does not really allow you to go into a program where you left off.

My last phone was the i9001 s plus. I ended up using the cleanrom as my daily. It was outstanding but still no real multi task support on that version of Android.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
No idea, but I have literally left the browser at the beginning of the day, used the phone all day, and clicked the browser at the end of the day to find that it was still on the page I left (without loading). I think my jaw must've literally dropped in awe! I have kept a note of it since then, and realized that the phone has not closed a single app on me, without me exiting it purposely since I got it last week. The only app that has ever closed is Livingsocial, which is poorly programmed and closes even if you leave and come back to it right away.

I have yet to see the phone go below 950mb available RAM. I think 2gb was kind of overkill, but I'm not complaining :D
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It does it a lot better than my One X, but that's partly because HTC gimped multi-tasking on purpose.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
After a reboot, I opened every app from my drawer, 47 (I've left all the stock apps in place). Then went into Settings, Apps, Running. Shows 7 running, with 428 MB RAM used and 1.4 GB free. 17 show up in the recent apps menu, and even the ones that aren't listed in running, activate seamlessly, no need to load. I went back to one of the first apps I'd run through the app drawer, and even it loaded noticeably faster than it had the first time. I went back and reopened Google Earth (81 MB when cached), and now still 17 apps show up. Now if I look in Settings, Apps, Running, the select show cached apps, I see 26 listed there, totaling 366 MB. Some of these 26 apps are in the 17, not all of the 17 are in the 26, and some of the 26 are apps I'd opened earlier that are no longer in the recent apps.

So, looks like 17, for me. I'm on faux123's beta004 kernel, stock JOP40C Android 4.2
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Also I noticed (well obviously) that stock android uses less RAM than touchwiz or sense. It manages apps much better.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
OK guys this literally just happened 2 sec ago. I launched templed run ( that I haven't used in 4 days at least) and the game was counting down 3,2,1.... And resumed!
[Nexus 4 General] kerman19:
I was armed and ready to dislike the onscreen buttons, but that didn't turn out to be the case!

Granted, I wouldn't mind making them a little smaller maybe?

My experience is the same as everyone else, compared to my S3 this phone stomps it in the multitasking department. My main complaint with the S3 was browsing a couple of pages on XDA, and then trying to text someone... it would lag so bad that I just got pissed off with it. The Nexus 4 laughs at such a simple task!

I'm pleased to add myself to the list of happy Nexus 4 users.

Phil
[Nexus 4 General] horr1blek1tten:
As long as u don't restart or close it , it will do that.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Yeah, you can shrink the nav bar in AOKP.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
It's fantastic. I love the nav bar personally. This phone is a great piece of hardware.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
What is the "multitasking icon" you are refering to? Is it like the history icon in Icecream Sandwich which shows the apps that were open before?

When talking about multitasking are you really meaning multitasking (running more than one program at the same time with both apps preforming functions at the same time) or do you mean task switching where one app is ready and waiting but not active while another app is busy?
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
That's the thing, I flashed 1.5 and went back to 1.0, restarted the phone and closed that app more than 4 days ago. Its still knew where I left off...
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
My bad, the multitasking button on the home screen ( you know, there's back, home and recent apps which I called the multitask icon :p )
[Nexus 4 General] $sudo:
iPhone

Wow, what a difference in multi-tasking coming from an iPhone 4. Is it still considered necessary to close applications as you are done using them or is that an android myth? :good:
[Nexus 4 General] P00t:
I loved how fast it was.

Apps installed so freakin fast after downloading.

Apps open up fast.

Everything extremely fast and smooth
[Nexus 4 General] Mesho Arc:
I WANT MY NEXUS 4 NOW

It's painful to see it and not touching it
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
No, the system will automatically close apps when (if ever) memory is low. This is what the memory management scheme looks like. When available memory goes below the threshold listed on the right, the associated app types will be cleared until available memory is above those levels.
[Nexus 4 General] ElecTriX666:
Neat app! I assume it requires root?

Skickat från min LT26i via Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] lonz358:
System Tuner and yes
[Nexus 4 General] Vaanres:
but i don't know why n4 has lower benchmark scores than optimus G =.=! , and software button has some inconveniences when playing games
[Nexus 4 General] j1mmyg88:
it is such a pleasent surprise to see this thread. I too love my Nexus 4, so much better than my previous phones, have gone through a few, but most recently the GNex (2nd time) and the Xperia T. When doing benchmarking, I just love the fact it handles memory so dam well. And the multi-tasking/app-switching is superb.
[Nexus 4 General] 3Shirts:
Same here. I had an Xperia S before this and even with CM10 which was really smooth on it, the multi tasking was nothing like this. It always took a couple of seconds to bring up the list of recent apps and never kept them alive as well as this phone.

I guess it's the extra ram.

I love it!
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
Can you explain what you mean by this, please? I play quite a few games on my phone, GTA, Dead Trigger, etc - anything that causes a problem with that means this phone would be a no go for me. I'm patiently waiting for my order to come in stock at the moment.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I have no idea what he is going on about. Playing games is great on the nex 4 going by the videos.

I have the" software buttons" on my nex 7. I have no idea how they impact gaming in any way? And yes, I pay games daily on this device.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] MisakaImouto:
You could always have changed the function of the buttons on your other device.

That's what I did with my US Galaxy S3, I mapped the Menu button to Recents.
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
I'm assuming the on-screen buttons stay on the screen, like this on the GNex with GTA3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDLWPhrwlU&feature=related

First of all, what a waste of screen real estate. Second of all, I can guarantee I will be hitting that back button ALL the time when playing. Is it like this with all games? Can it be fixed, if so, please link me to how. Gaming is a big thing for me, so this would be unacceptable as it stands.
[Nexus 4 General] Raul69.atl:
Hey i have a S2 and waiting for google to get a N4 ...was it a good move knowing the s2 still a good phone? PM please. Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] 3Shirts:
It depends on the game I think. I have a couple where the buttons shrink away during game play and only show on the menu screens (when you can use them to navigate or quit the game). There are mods for the GNex that automatically hide the buttons and can be brought back by a gesture. I'm sure one will be ported to the N4 soon enough. To be honest, I've never had a problem with them though.
[Nexus 4 General] kerman19:
I'm inclined to agree in part, in so much as they could be be smaller. But I wouldn't say they're a waste of screen real estate. I'm also having less unintentional presses with the onscreen buttons vs my S3's capacitive buttons for the simple reason the capacitive buttons impede on the lower bezel.

Of course it's personal taste, I was ready to hate them but I gave them a fair chance and I actually end up having no issue with them.

Phil
[Nexus 4 General] Vaanres:
that what i want to say, i think game developers should hide navigation button by default, and show it by gestures

sorry for my bad english
[Nexus 4 General] svengalis:
Smoothest and fastest UI I have ever experienced on a phone I can't believe it!
[Nexus 4 General] uppon2:
I am still trying to work out why people think this? I am about to receive my Nexus 4 and I currently have an SGS 2. I have been questioning the screen size while waiting for delivery and now I am looking at the S3. I am still trying to decide what to do lol. Even after shrinking the nav bar how much actual screen size can I expect? I want to upgrade from my SGS 2 considerably and I forgot to factor in the on screen keys.
[Nexus 4 General] quentin0:
I hope Google allows developers to hide the nav buttons in apps that aren't video related (like netflix and youtube). I can't understand why they didn't allow this in the first place, it's not a problem on other platforms. Can you imagine if the windows taskbar was consistently present every time you you wanted to play a pc game? All it takes is a simple "Quit" button and you're good to go to exit the app.

With that said, I really like aokp's implementation. You can toggle the nav buttons from pressing and holding the power button. They also have the 3 buttons in the power menu, just in case you need to get back to the home screen quickly.
[Nexus 4 General] nbell13:
Make no mistake... this phone is by far a considerable upgrade over the GS2.
[Nexus 4 General] uppon2:
I understand that. But my questions should be more relevant to an SGS 3. I am contemplating selling the Nexus 4 (sealed) and buying an SGS 3 due to the screen