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[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
Data works fine but I'm not able to place calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Ayeso:
Just tested phone call, works great on Bell. Tested data after, still at LTE speeds.
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Calls worked for me?
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
Problem solved. I had it set to LTE only. Chose LTE/GSM and it's all good.
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
Canadian carriers do not support voice over LTE yet, so you are going have to set the phone to LTE/GSM auto, the phone will fall back to 3G in order to make phone calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Ayeso:
More tests https://www.box.com/s/97evfzc3wz391sqtj02q
[Nexus 4 General] bloodtrain:
Working Great!

Hi guys..

I'm also with Telus and gave this a try and it works. I selected LTE/GSM auto (PRL) and it's connecting to HSPA, 3G and 4G and I'm also able to make calls. When the phone rings, it switches to either HSPA or 3G and when I hang up, it goes back to 4G.

Before Settings Change

speedtest.net/android/298594435.png

After Settings Change

speedtest.net/android/298603405.png

I already thought it was a great phone but it just got sweeter! :)
[Nexus 4 General] yoohoohoo:
so does that mean for rogers we can just leave it at LTE/GSMAuto (PRL) and not LTE/GSM/CDMAauto (PRL)?
[Nexus 4 General] comminus:
OP, apologies for calling you out. Clearly there are significantly less shenanigans going on. This makes waiting on the backorder list far more painful.
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Yes you can use just LTE/GSM if you like.

On another note, can more people confirm my suspicions of having to change it each time you reboot the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] rickytenzer:
No suspicions, it is the case.
[Nexus 4 General] mlarco52:
Well won't work for me on Fido because the micro sim I was sold LAST WEEK doesn't have lte (it doesn't say lte anywhere on the card itself). Scam artists fido are, cunningly clever ones lol. But anyways I think it's only worth it in big cities like Toronto or Vancouver and so on and even then when you have a charger handy at all times, otherwise say good bye to your already crappy battery life with the nexus 4 that we have.
[Nexus 4 General] a1jatt:
Can't blame you . I myself didn't believe it when I saw the speeds first time.
[Nexus 4 General] bloodtrain:
It definitely goes back to the default settings once I reboot. I thought I would be clever and add *#*#4636#*#* to a new Contact and then add a widget to the home screen but it actually tries to dial the code as a number instead of bringing up the Phone Settings menu. :(

I rarely restart my phone so it's not really an inconvenience.
[Nexus 4 General] a1jatt:
I use the "phone info" app. It is just a shortcut to the settings .
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
I've had the reverting settings bug on my One X so I am kind of used to it.
[Nexus 4 General] deltatux:
AWS (1700/2100 MHz), the same band T-Mobile USA is using for its DC-HSPA+ network. The Big 3 all use AWS for their LTE as the 700 MHz band hasn't been licensed off yet.

Rogers does have the LG Optimus G running on 2600 MHz LTE for "up to" 100 mbps though... or so they say...

deltatux
[Nexus 4 General] Ayeso:
Im going to see if I can make a simple app to set preferred network type.
[Nexus 4 General] bloodtrain:
Thanks - this makes it easier! :D

So do you think LG/Google will remove this feature in an update? If they do, any idea if it will be possible to bring it back?
[Nexus 4 General] sabesh:
That's more like HSPA+ / DC-HSPA speeds. Anyone getting > 21mbps on Rogers?
[Nexus 4 General] junks2010:
:D:D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] bloodtrain:
I definitely need to learn how to build apps for Android for moments like this. I'm going off topic here for a sec but since I know some PHP and .Net C#, is coding for Android similar to either of those languages?
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
I'm not on Rogers but I am getting speeds of 55/25 here at my office on Bell in Calgary.
[Nexus 4 General] Ayeso:
Most programming languages are similar enough that if you understand one you can figure out the rest. Its just the syntax and methods that are different. Im quite fluent in C++ and .NET and Java so it shouldnt be a big jump to make an app for an android phone.
[Nexus 4 General] STIawdFTW:
I can confirm this works on telus. Download "Phone Info" app from play store and switch preferred network to "LTE Only" and thats all I did and I'm getting 3326.3 kB/s download and 2458 kB/s upload. Frick this is awesome!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Girn:
Anyone notice that the network type goes to " WCDMA preferred" every once in a while? How to prevent that
[Nexus 4 General] tehdef:
ATT users. Are you guys testing the nexus while it's already on your account? If so you need to have already told at its an lte phone otherwise their networks won't let you on because their systems designate phones based on lte or 3g. If you had two phones on account t and swapped Sims and the other phone is lte it should work. Assuming that aws isn't the major iasue
[Nexus 4 General] formicae:
If Tasker works with 4.2, it had network mode toggles. You might be able to set them on boot, I used to have a Tasker setup that switched me to 2G when the screen was off, back to 3G on screen on (in the oooolden days).
[Nexus 4 General] dabotsonline:
Would it be possible to automate that with a flashable ZIP or app?
[Nexus 4 General] gdap:
Just as an update to my previous post:

Just bought an LTE microsim, and we have liftoff!

Not the greatest signal strength (1-2 bars), but my speeds went from less than 1mbps to 8mbps!

Yay!
[Nexus 4 General] FallN:
Does this work with T-Mobile in the USA? :confused:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] bloodtrain:
+1! You sir deserve post of the day! Okay wait, 2nd post of the day, I think a1jatt deserves post of the day! :D
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Remember to set to LTE/GSM or you wont be ablet o make phone calls.
[Nexus 4 General] thekooliest:
Do you think I could call and tell them that I just got a GS2 or GS3 with LTE (the Skryocket?) to put an 'LTE' ticker on my account? Would I need a new SIM card, I just got a micro-SIM the beginning of this week.

Can anyone confirm that this is working on AT&T?
[Nexus 4 General] STIawdFTW:
I dont have full bars where I'm at right now but I actually just got 4560 kB/s which is quite a bit faster than what I get for HSPA+. This is awesome Canada is sweet :)
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
Damn, time to move to Canada.
[Nexus 4 General] STIawdFTW:
Yes but for data speeds I wanted to test LTE only. I hardly make phone calls anyways but I'll leave it on LTE/GSM so it can revert back to GSM if theres no LTE available.

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Telus does not know I have an LTE enabled phone which isnt supposed to be LTE enabled anyways but it works just fine with my current contract and SIM.
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
The 60Mbps down I got was LTE only. Tried it again with LTE/GSM and still managed a respectable 48Mbps. Keep in mind that was also two hours later and the network was busier.
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Yea dont worry, if LTE is available you will be on LTE so testing won't matter if you use LTE only or LTE/GSM.
[Nexus 4 General] neer2005:
So your telling me that Canada gets maple syrup, hockey AND LTE?
[Nexus 4 General] squadz:
I'm unable to get this to work (Rogers).

Do I set APN type to default,supl,mms?

Then I set to LTE only, and it fails the ping test. Any help?
[Nexus 4 General] Terul:
What have you set up as your APN?

When I set it up I didn't get it to work because I set the APN Type to "internet + mms", I changed it to "*" and then it worked. Getting awesome speeds! (highest is 66 Mbps so far)
[Nexus 4 General] AllBlaxx:
Dan at MobileSyrup has put together a tutorial with video on how to do it. It includes the APN settings too

http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/11/23/how-to-enable-lte-on-the-nexus-4-with-rogers-telus-or-bell-video/
[Nexus 4 General] squadz:
Apparently I don't have an LTE SIM. Going to pick one up after work, thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] Ballastatuz:
Wait you got it working on AT&T?
[Nexus 4 General] cman6453:
He was in Milton, ONTARIO, Canada. Likely not AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] aa_chow:
By now its confirmed on many tech sites.

Just managed to test it with a Telus SIM. I can confirm LTE does work.
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Just tested it in Calgary.

5 runs at WCDMA preferred, and 5 runs at LTE/GSM auto (PRL). Both were averaging 12 Mbps at my office, with WCDMA having the highest value at 14 Mbps. I'll run a more thorough test at home and report if there's any difference there.

Forked if I know if my Bell micro SIM is actually LTE compatible though, but according to the Bell website all their micro SIMs are. Can anyone confirm?
[Nexus 4 General] AllBlaxx:
I hope someone is working on a battery life comparison
[Nexus 4 General] formicae:
I guess we can take it as a good sign that no one's posting that their battery is drained yet.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
LTE is most deff enabled on the N4. LG/Google probably didn't want to say anything cause "Legal" actions. Plain and simple.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
Just found this thread... any info on getting this to work on Sprint/Verizon CDMA network? I don't even care so much for the LTE... I'm more concerned that I'll be able to make calls, text, and go on at least 3g data...

*edit* sorry for not reaching through nearly 300 posts for this answer... I read through like the first 100 and didn't see mention of it yet...
[Nexus 4 General] NotEnoughMinerals:
Working for me on Rogers in Canada :D
[Nexus 4 General] Imppy:
How much speeds are you guys getting for Rogers lte?
[Nexus 4 General] NotEnoughMinerals:
49692 kps (49.69MB/s) down

20155 kps (20.15MB/s) up

I'm in Toronto
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Never will work. Sorry bud
[Nexus 4 General] ghettopops:
I want Rogers. Curse you AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
One could always hope someone finds the radio hidden in the hardware somewhere and a way to enable it...
[Nexus 4 General] mlarco52:
Still no one used it for fido yet?? I'm assuming it should work my LTE mico sim comes in the mail next week from fido as the stores here didn't have it in stock...but just wanting to make sure I'm 99% certain that rogers and fido use the same bands for lte but just wanting to confirm for sure.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] telephonemike:
LTE load on the RF portion of the phone

Will the load on the RF section be a issue for people that have enabled LTE after using it for a prolonged period?
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Either I have a Bell micro SIM that isn't 4G/LTE (I thought they were all 4G/LTE capable), or the tower near my office isn't capable (?).
[Nexus 4 General] formicae:
http://www.loxcel.com/celltower
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Looking at the menus on the settings. It doesn't supply much. Plus, the N4 has GSM radios not CDMA. Thus, it wont work.. That's why GSM is the better network. GSM one radio, CDMA has two.
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Great link, thanks.

I'm triangulated by 3 towers, 2 of which are LTE, and 1 that isn't. Guess which one is closest...
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
The thing is, gsm sucks where I live compared to CDMA... also the prices on CDMA are typically cheaper... so cheaper plus better network and there's no way I would do gsm again...
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
I have Bell. It will say on the sim card itself if it's 4G/LTE or not. I'm in Calgary and getting LTE speeds, but I was downtown for lunch today and I was getting OK speeds download, but good uploads (18Mbps for each).
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
I wonder if there is a way to inject those settings (LTE/GSM) upon boot.. Does anyone know if it's possible?
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Not sure. I have a feeling it could be done if you have rooted your phone and find the file that controls the defaults. It hasn't been confirmed by anyone though. BUT if you get the app Phone Info. It makes it MUCH easier to change the setting as you dont have to type in the code on your dialpad.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Its opposite for me. I totally understand tho :)

I always pay for either a $200 dollar phone w 2 yr. But once I went to T-Mobile I payed all my phones up front so that gives me a big break on monthly payments. Plus its true unlimited data 9756 gigs to run up for 20 bucks.. Verizon 50 bucks for only 10gigs of full speed than cap yo ass. **** vzw. That's me tho. :)
[Nexus 4 General] mightydrake:
It's working on Fido. Just make sure you have an LTE microsim card, put the lte apn settings, and it works. I get 2x speed vs HSPA+.
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
So from what I've got by reading this thread is that LTE works only on band 4, which has the frequency of 2100 MHz (right? or is it 700?)

Anyway, what I was wondering is if it'll work on 2300 MHz too. My country's service providers offer 4G in the 2300 MHz spectrum, not the US 2100 MHz.
[Nexus 4 General] onedude1:
Yes. Like that, except with an icon.
[Nexus 4 General] AllBlaxx:
It's only a matter of time before someone on here writes an app that either changes the settings on the Nexus 4 to LTE/GSM from WCDMA preferred with one touch or a root app that does it on boot. Give it time
[Nexus 4 General] mlarco52:
Hey man thank you for the info! What are the apn settings you're using for fido? Just so I can have them ready when I get my sim card in the mail.
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Oh, upon further googling, I found that India uses TDD LTE, and not FDD LTE that US uses.

That pretty much ends my hope for using 4G in my country using the Nexus 4, right? Please say I'm wrong?
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Does it work on At&t? Do I have to change my apn and get a different sim?
[Nexus 4 General] tehdef:
Did you not see ATT? like holy ****. It was "ATT users."period. Not Telus... People be dumb.
[Nexus 4 General] KevinChaos:
I can't figure out what band AT&T uses for lte in my city. I'm in San Antonio, TX. I know we were one of the first 5 cities to get lte, but I'm hoping it's on band 4 so I can use it instead of band 17. I'm seeing mixed reports on whether att is using band 4 at all yet. :(
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
If you have a decent launcher, you can add a shortcut to the Phone Info activity on your home screen.
[Nexus 4 General] cmstlist:
Well an easy place to start is - did AT&T*succeed at buying Band 17 (700 MHz)*spectrum there?*

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=187&p=231

If I am reading the map correctly, AT&T owns 24 MHz of 700 spectrum in San Antonio and 12 MHz in some areas to its northwest (including Austin?)*and southwest. This is spectrum that has better reach, so most certainly AT&T*is using Band 17 in SA. Initial deployments in locations without any 700 spectrum would be on Band 4. And maybe as the need for capacity increases, they'd start overlaying existing areas with Band 4.
[Nexus 4 General] jimmy_7z:
I had to use APN ltemobile.apn for Fido. I got 31mb down and 26mb up on a speed test today I also noticed much faster battery decline when LTE was enabled but that was probably because signal strength goes down a few bars on LTE..
[Nexus 4 General] golfinggino:
On Rogers in Cambridge Ontario I just tested it and was 51000 download and 30000 upload with full bars
[Nexus 4 General] Nelsocracy:
Anybody in Toronto on Rogers able to report on signal strength?

I'm using an S3 now and the only thing stopping me from getting a N4 was the lack of LTE. I'm just worried cause I notice a lot of the screenshots only have one or two bars reception with LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
I have a feeling that this whole fiasco is a ploy by the developer of Phone Info to get people to download his app
[Nexus 4 General] neotekz:
Seems like androidcentral is regretting their condescending article about lte on the nexus 4. They are deleting comments now...http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/13nzhh/androidcentral_edits_no_your_nexus_4_wont/
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
I have been at three/four bars most of the day. Occasionally it hits one or two.
[Nexus 4 General] ti3n1:
lte working on rogers toronto

Just wanted to confirm that LTE is working for me in Toronto! wooo hooo
[Nexus 4 General] djkinetic:
For everyone who is asking about ATT in the US...It doesn't work...I have two LTE lines..my main line that had the gs3 before and my gf's gs3...both have LTE microsims both provisioned on LTE data share plans...forcing LTE only on the nexus 4 shows no registerable networks..gs3 shows ATT and of course connects to it...both have the same pta APN settings...in short only those in Canada can take advantage of this right now.
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Well here is another draw back now. Saw it on mobilesyrup and I confirmed it. If you are on LTE and try to use Google Now, it MAY work but it will be MUCH slower. Test it out for yourself, but it does seem to be significantly slower for me if it even ever loads.

Edit: It's only when using LTE/GSM, but when you use LTE you are good to go. Kinda crappy still if you want to use your phone for a phone though haha
[Nexus 4 General] tomedic:
I just went to a Roger's store an hour ago and picked up an LTE micro SIM. I have never had an LTE phone before (or micro sim for that matter).

I changed over the APN to the LTE one and then went to "LTE only" in the phone settings shown above. My signal bar then switched to "4G"

I ran 3 speed tests before the change and 3 after. These are the averages...

Pre-change:

DL: 3.57 Mbps

UL: 0.89 Mbps

Ping: 80 ms

After:

DL: 9.13 Mbps

UL: 13.51 Mbps

Ping: 33 ms

Ran at the exact same spot located at Yonge and Front (Toronto). Signal fluctuates a lot between 2-4 bars on LTE (never below). HSDPA I always have 4.

These tests were run at around 4:45 pm today. LTE yo!

I have a bad feeling this is going to kill the battery though if I keep these settings...
[Nexus 4 General] Talal916:
There has never been a worse time to be on a CDMA carrier D; I hope the T-Mobile/MetroPCS merger means us MetroPCS users can switch to T-Mobile GSM...

Sent from my EVO 4G LTE
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Question is will this ever work for at&t? Is there even a chance that it's possible?
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Not until the do lte on aws bands.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] omegacell:
No, Data is data. The connection type doesn't matter.
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
After a phonecall, the phone defaults back to HSPA.. Any way to force it to stay on LTE when it's available without going back into phone info, setting LTE only, then setting it back to LTE/GSM? I'm assuming it's defaulting back to HSPA because my HSPA signal is full bars, whereas LTE only gives me 2-3
[Nexus 4 General] squadz:
46 down, 24 up in Woodbridge Ontario.

I absolutely love this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] ChongoDroid:
If this is going back to H for phone calls then this is fully functional. My one x does the same thing, switches over to LTE when I hang up
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
You misread post.. it doesn't switch back to LTE for me after a phonecall.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
It will stick back to "WCDMA"

Until someone can figure those settings to stick.. It will be tough.
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
Hmm, dang... Can android apps control the radio? As in.. do they have those permissions? If so, it would be possible to write an app that runs in the background, starts on boot, and checks the radio settings.. if LTE is not enabled, enable it basically.
[Nexus 4 General] marinierb:
build.prop, perhaps?
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
Never mind, it just switched back to LTE by itself.. looks like it picks whatever has the best signal quality... My HSPA connection was full bars, but when I went to the bathroom I think it dropped and then it switched to LTE because the difference wasn't as great. Now we just have to make it stick on boot.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Its more of a framework kinda deal. I have came across this famous menu many times across multiple phones. I have not seen one person able to have those settings stick.. Its coming from me tho. Idk how others feel about that, but it is more to do with a framework edit. For example: on the *#*#4636#*#* menu. If you click on the little menu tab on the bottom and hit the "select radio band" (it let's you choose between different regions. US, Europe, Africa so on so on) in this particular phone tho.. That selection force closes you out and resets your HSPA+ radio on the phone. Your radio will turn off than back on.

Edit: Seems also the phone.apk needs some tweaking as well.

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Yea, it will only "stick" when you change it and don't reboot. The trick is trying to get it to stick.. As you stated. :)

I wouldn't be much assistance to the building and overwriting part.. Just the knowledge part I have lol
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
Hopefully some genius Android devs come up with a solution soon.. as far as programming goes, it sounds dead simple.. the question is whether it is possible
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Hopefully.. Programming, no doubt someone can plug the holes in. Hell of a lot better than my ass that's for sure. Hahaha
[Nexus 4 General] tomedic:
I live at Yonge and Front. I always have 4 bars at home. On LTE/GSM auto, so far I've noticed it goes between 2-4 bars (with 2-3 being normal). The signal bar (in battery settings) is normally straight bright green. With this enabled though it's now mainly that pea-green. Signal strength in "About Phone" seems to generally be the same as before though (64-80ish dBm) but the asu is WAY higher like 70+. Even when the signal drops to one bar, the strength never seems to go higher than 84 dBm and no lower than 60 or so asu. Maybe LTE signal is measured differently and is not accurately reflected by the bars?

Considering the fluctuations, I haven't seen a noticeable hit in battery life at this point though.

I am getting that weird double call issue though when a call out in the history. Is that the hand off to GSM because LTE doesn't do voice?
[Nexus 4 General] M@cross:
Any rogers users able to get tethering to work over LTE?
[Nexus 4 General] mesasone:
I noticed a number of people complaining of a weaker signal in LTE mode. It would be interesting it somebody who has LTE working on the Nexus 4 and another LTE device to compare the signal strength to see if the Nexus 4 is has poor LTE reception or if the LTE signal is just weaker on both devices.

Check in Settings > About Phone > Status : Signal Strength.

Very cool development in anycase. Hopefully we'll soon be able to pull the power management from the Optimus G and perhaps the software/firmware required to enable LTE on AT&T in the US as well.
[Nexus 4 General] golfinggino:
from my experience even lte with only 1 bar will be faster then hspa+ full strength - correct me if i am wrong but based on experience i believe this to be true
[Nexus 4 General] Nelsocracy:
Thanks for the info.

I'm over by Broadview and Danforth and tested out my signal on my S3 a bit to get a comparison. I didn't move around but at my house where it shows four bars I seem to be around -80 to -90 dBm.

I found the same thing as you with the asu, it changes from around 10 on hspa+ to 50-60 on LTE, so I guess that's just what the asu does. I looked it up briefly and apparently the formula for different network types is different which would explain this.

I know its a bit anecdotal but it looks to me like you're getting pretty similar results to me which is good. Now if only the n4 would get back in stock. . .

Don't know anything about your double call bug though, sorry!
[Nexus 4 General] Boobeh:
LTE in Ottawa Not Bad on Nexus 4

LTE working fine here in Ottawa on Rogers - Nexus 4

20.445Mbps Down 19.313Mbps Up.
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
Once T-Mobile roll out their lte network on band 4 this will work perfectly now battery life may be an issue, but 4.2 still need some work so battery could be better.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Glad all you have a awesome experience with LTE! Can't wait for T-Mobile to kick it. :)
[Nexus 4 General] :
Is there an online address look up for AT&T? I live and move through the Northeastern Ohio area.

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Correct me if I'm wrong? Isn't there some spots in the US already deployed?