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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nic85:
i set them "on" but we have to write something on "usage"?

C0 has 43325

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Guto ViP:
I can't see your screen shot... Forget it, I found in your twitter.

This is mine.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iamsmallpang:
how to set the latest update faux123 kernel apps?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aSquard:
I'm like a few of the others, my SoC settings can't be changed. The options can be highlighted, and on/off ticker works, but keyboard doesn't show when numbers are clicked
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
The numbers are a meter to display usage, why would the keyboard need to pop up in that field?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bluewall:
I have to admit, I have absoluetely no idea what those SoC settings does. Anyone care to share if he knows ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aSquard:
Other people's screenshots show different numbers in those fields. One person asked what settings to use - Faux responded to use the ones from his Twitter post... That's why I'm under the impression the numbers can be changed ;)

Mine Currently Shows (after rebooting)

C0: 103843

C1: 2625

C2: 8071

C3: 12130

Faux's Twitter shows:

C0: 682240

C1: 3236

C2: 0

C3: 21415
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] itshotinhere:
I believe he just meant the 'On' settings. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
That's cause it's usage meter, as in it measures the activity for the C states, you do not edit those values they are autonomous.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] j3di:
Search for each item along with 'Code Aurora' to get an explanation of what they are.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hhyong99:
Try to reboot and see..

It works for me after reboot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Caner092:
Still I couldn't make it work. Anyone have any idea? :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kishke:
First try fixing permissions in recovery.

If that doesnt help try deleting it from supersu list and launch it again.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drharisis:
Do you experience high battery drainage when playing games??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] android88:
That's normal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Caner092:
Faux announced Build 74 on twitter. It will fix my FC problem :) Thanks for your helps!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] MrPhilo:
Can already see a difference with the SOC option turned on. Would anyone explain what all 4 option do and what they effect?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mkamal23:
Should i keep all the of the SOC options on?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
SOC Sleep States demystified! (Corrected for incorrect information thanks for G+ comments!)​

Often times users using many apps like CPU Spy will say post how much time their phone spent in "sleep" and thinking that "sleep" has only 1 state, unfortunately, it is WRONG. For many modern CPUs there are several C-States (sleep states), and the term "sleep" does NOT correctly describe them all.

Just like in real life, there are several stages of "sleep", the shallowest sleep is C0 State. As in real life, C0 state is very easy to wake up from with almost NO latency at all (real life will be like grogginess, so C0 is just like when you first doze off but any little distraction will instantly wake you up). The deeper the sleep, the harder it is to wake up from. It takes longer for CPU to re-initialize itself to a waking state (just like real life where once you enter REM sleep, it's very hard to wake up from it).

For most processors, C3 is the Deepest sleep state. C3 state is ALMOST like turning it off using the absolutely minimum power.

C0 - Shallowest sleep (dozing off) with instant wake up

C1 - slightly deeper sleep with slight latency when waking up

C2 - deeper sleep with longer latency when waking up

C3 - really deep sleep (like REM sleep in real life) with longest latency when waking up

My pyramid (Sensation 4G) kernel has Intellidemand Governor 2.0 (Grand daddy of the Mako's Intellidemand governor) where I disabled ALL hotplugging when screen is on (ie, both cores stays ON the WHOLE TIME) but I enabled C2 state for both processors, so even though at first you think it may draw more battery than hotplugging (turning off the core when not using), many of my users have experienced better battery life than with hotplugging (Hotplugging is VERY expensive, the act of turning cores on/off drains battery as well).

On Nexus 4 (Mako), for some reason, Qualcomm has decided to only allow for C0 state (the shallowest sleep) while idling and so the "sleep" isn't really that deep. With my FauxClock app + my kernel, I give you all the "deeper" sleep states so when idling, you phone can experience deeper sleep. There's a hardware bug for Krait processors where the secondary cores, 1~3, cannot achieve deeper sleep state independently, so hotplugging is still necessary to save power for cores 1~3 but for core 0 (and core 0 is the master CPU and it's NEVER hotplugged) being able to go into deeper sleep state will help to conserve more power.

FauxClock is designed with forward compatibility. With the newer Qualcomm Krait 600/800 series, they have fixed a few of the hardware bugs from the Krait processors, and so for those newer SOCs, you can go into deeper sleep with all cores like the like older 8x60 SOCs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djvoleur:
Rasbean...default settings :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] algarblandom:
Hi Faux, with latest beta (13b11_r2) and latest fauxclock version C2 and C3 options in SOC options dont stay ON after a while with the screen off, even with "set on boot" enabled. Dunno if this is a bug or just the common behaviour.

Thanx for your great job!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bluewall:
Awesome Faux. Thank you so much for all those knowledge you share with us. As a tech student it's simply gold.

Big thanks from Switzerland!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TylerDurden1999:
Just lemme get this straigh. We should enable just 1 C from those 4 C's?

I enabled 1 and it wont stick. I enabled all of them and they still dont stick.

Btw, we should just turn them or or even enter a value in that line?

And i have 012 tbu kernel. Isnt it compatible with the new soc power management?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
Should work with the 13 beta.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TylerDurden1999:
It sticked after i cleared Data but still no1 knows if we should leave all the C on, or just 1 of them?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
In the screen shot from faux he has all but the 3rd option enabled.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IAmAN00bie:
Can these new options be set through an init.d script? Yes I do own the Faux clock app but I much prefer scripts so I can set all of my settings at one time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TylerDurden1999:
Do i need to enter those values too?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Craxx:
I think when you read what faux explained you can understand what to do. You can enable how deep sleep your device should or could sleep.

Ifyou only don't enable c3 so your phone could not use this sleep method.

best regards

Craxx :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thebrainkafka:
Dos ecomode enabled mean i only have a dual core phone all the time?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Craxx:
Yes

best regards

Craxx :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] resynx:
Yes, 2 cores are turned off permanently.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] coloxim:
So I better keep only c1 is right?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TylerDurden1999:
i read Faux post. I understood what he said about the different sleep states but he didnt say anything about do we need to enter some value?Just 1 to keep enabled?These kinda things.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rafase282:
I can't enter values for SOC. I press and press and the keyboard just won't show up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] biggiephat:
Read previous posts please. Why don't people get it? Just turn on which c-states you want your phone to use and that's it. The values there are for your information, not to edit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] resynx:
Excited to go home and try these new SOC settings!! Thanks Faux :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TylerDurden1999:
So we just need to keep just 1 option enabled?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rafase282:
I did read previous post, didn't find where it says we are not supposed to put values manually. Why do you assume things on your own?

Relax and ignore the questions if it is too much for you.

---------- Post added at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:44 PM ----------

The way it seems to work is that you activate whichever you want and the values will be set automatically. You can close the app and reopen it to see the changes. I currently activated all of them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
Manual for SOC power Control:

Enable => this allows you to enable or disable deeper sleep state.

My recommendation is C0, C1 and C3. enabled (ah crap.. typo.. should be 3 not 2 :p)

Usage => this is simply a number which shows how many times each of the deeper sleep is used. There are NO USER INPUT required or needed. Just a display.

Q: Why some of the deeper sleep states cannot be enabled?

A: Because not all kernels supports the deeper states. With my latest beta, you should be able to toggle on / off all 4 states.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
I'm unsure, I've said it multiple times that it's simply a meter and not an interactive field.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] biggiephat:
My assumptions are based on fact.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superleeds27:
Has anyone figured out the settings for Fauxdisplay to get Halfbreed colours?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jassycliq:
Trickster has a preset for that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] coloxim:
OK...all but not c2...

I'll try...thanks faux..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] notbrodie:
It's on the nexus 4 colors spreadsheet.

(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...VFSldPS2RrX1Rya0E&f=true&noheader=false&gid=5)

All three settings (r, g, b) are the same

Amp0 25

Amp1 04

Then in order, it's 0,0,2,4,1,0,2

Then next page is 0,4,4,4,6,7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] partylikeaninjastar:
Out of curiosity and ignorance, Faux, why not 2?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pixiebob:
can someone be kind to give the command echo to enable different c-state.

thanks by advance
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Michealtbh:
C2 and C3 keep reverting to off for me. I've tried clearing app data for FauxClock and rebooting etc, problem persists no matter what
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Shedao:
Two quick questions:

As our phones up to now only used C0 sleep state. Could the C1-C3 states affect push notifications and other device wakening things?

Just out of curiosity: You said the C2 state works well on the sensation 4g. Why do you recommend turning that one off?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ajanu:
I want to ask this too.

Loving the options with this kernel and Faux Apps. Though I often wonder what I do with my phone since 80% of may paid apps are Faux, Tasker, Apex, etc to tweak it, not games or news/weather apps.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] laverdure#1:
Flashed 003 and updated the app this morning, everything seems to work great for me, max-min 1.35-384, eco-mode stick. UV to -150mV and seeing much less idle battery drain. No lag that I can tell so far. Awesome work Faux, thank you so much!!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dwang:
With beta 3, I noticed that setting the governor to id, the min CPU state gets set to 1ghz. If I manually set it to 384ghz, things get pretty laggy again.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jra89027:
project butter

does this kernel, negate the fact that because of project butter, anytime you touch the screen it hikes the cpu to 1026mhz? waking the cpu like that, although for performance is great, has to kill the battery, im using the matrix kernel, and someone posted on there, that faux kernel negates that, which would be awesome. i am more concerned about battery life. i use set cpu to set max to 1026mhz and it runs just fine for me. thanks guys i appreciate all your help, and faux thank you for always making awesome kernels, ive used yours in almost all my previous devices.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imperticus:
Great to see you here faux, used some of your codes from P999. Looking forward to your kernel.s
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Audioboxer:
Loving the new kernel and app faux :good:

Finally rid of mpdecision. Min clock 384, max clock 1.35 for me, and it truly sticks.

By the way, what is CPU eco Mode? It's off by default. Last thing, hopefully we can experiment with < 800mv soon :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IAmAN00bie:
edit: derp. Thanks MatAuc12 for correcting. Better to just link: straight from the horse's mouth http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35151185&postcount=894
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] MatAuc12:
......

As explained by faux it is much more complicated than shutting down 2 cores....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
gpu oc

Dose GPU overclock reset itself back to 486 after heat throttle now ? Haven't been on this kernel for few builds now , looking to check it out agn but that didn't work " right " few builds ago
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
Blames thermald(umb) :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I just installed all seems well ;) . not big deal just wondering , is that something u kernel devs are going to be able to "crack" eventually or is it deeper than that?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ricey1986:
Faux getting errors in the play store when trying to purchase your app. Is there any other way to purchase I.e. via PayPal?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
I will upload to androidpit soon. They take PayPal. No ETA
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rootuser11:
all you need to edit is thermald.conf in /etc/ but then it's tedious.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Anyone tried this ? Does it help
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mzanette:
So I'm already unlocked and rooted and I'm interested in taking the next step and trying to flash the kernel. The instructions by faux are very straightforward to actually flash. Do I then need to install faux's app from the play store?

Also are there instructions or "recommended initial settings" for a newb like me? I'm looking to increase battery life by under volting but the entire process is a bit scary for a first timer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Razer(x):
My phone bootlooped again with UV not set at boot

Be careful with that, doesn't work good
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mzanette:
Bit the bullet and did it! Flashed the kernel, bought the app, now to figure out what I'm doing. I've seen lots of people use -150 mV so I'll start there. Hold me. :-/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Audioboxer:
My phone runs fine at -175mv :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] danielsf:
I'm at -175mV too. One thing I like to do is run stability test in the back ground whilst having system tuner in the foreground on the form that shows core temp. At stock voltages it would get to 60C extremely fast. My international s3 in the same test would remain a lot cooler after the same amount of time in the test. Now at -175mV this phone actually takes longer to reach 60C than my 125mV undervolted s3. So I am very happy with this device :) Reason for this post is that if you do that test before and after undervolting you can see what kind of difference it actually makes. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Logi_Ca1:
Interesting fact is that heat itself increases power consumption. So by keeping the CPU cool by undervolting you save even more energy!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nic85:
I'm on 12m and that SOC settings... I have lot of lag and UI Force close :(

without enable them(only c0 as default) , all fast again..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 0.0:
Why shouldn't c2 be turned on?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ajanu:
I had C3 revert to off after the 1st reboot but it stuck on the second. Not sure why.

Is there anything we can set to make C3 more or less preferred?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] naveediftikhar:
now i knw that SOC is only applicable onwards the latest beta..but why can i still use it with the enhanced stock version?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mkamal23:
Fauxclock app works perfectly for me with the new SOC features. I hope to see a little difference in my battery life after trying it out for a couple of days :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
You should see slightly better on screen performance because of the deeper idle state. The whole point to this is really for better screen on battery performance :D Many activities such as reading Emails, reading books / magazines and web browsing where user interactions are minimal and the CPU is sitting idling, deeper C-States allows for more power savings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wollyka:
Until now on 13B11_r2 it didn't happen yet. I will wait and see
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
Just to add everything works for me to. 0,1,3 stick perfectly after reboot. For me this kernel rocks. Loving faux sound and its in the top list of my Must have apps list
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Same for me. Everything works like always. Big thx faux - you rule ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tibere86:
Great write up on Google+. Can we expect to see Wheatley governor in Faux kernel soon?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TylerDurden1999:
Question. Does the latest beta is compatible with faux speaker, faux sound and faux display?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
Yes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hatyrei:
Hi, I just received an update from the fauxclock app. how do i set the new included settings? It seems i couldn't find the recommended settings in the OP. THANK YOU.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] masterchung89:
Check a couple pages back. Enable c0 c1 and c3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 0.0:
Does anyone know why c2 should be off? I tried reading the Google+ post to get more info, but I couldn't quite obtain the info I needed

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SwayART:
Does anybody else have issues with sweeptowake making the screen non responsive to touch? Using latest beta kernel with carbon rom. Have had this issue with previous versions also and paranoid android
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
C2 and C3 is almost the same. So just pick 1 or the other. No need to really enable both.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
it works with enhanced as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 0.0:
Cool, thanks faux! I'm curious though, any drawbacks for enabling both?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
extra step to transition form 1 to another
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
He's being a ninja in his own thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djvoleur:
@faux, I'm wondering can the lower frequencies be applied to the enhanced kernel? Is it a simple cherry pick or is it a much deeper process?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
Simple cherry pick should do it. I won't add the low frequencies to enhanced because it's not a bug fix.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dungeon47:
I probably missed it somewhere in the thread while I was searching, but which variant are the betas based on? Do they contain HSIC fix, etc?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Reatret:
Many of my notifications have been delayed could it be because of the new oc options too deep to pull notifications?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] justanut:
Enable set on boot?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Globespy:
Love new FauxClock - question about setting individual voltage

Amazing update! Who's that Franco guy again??? ;)

I was wondering from a stability perspective, are the higher or lower CPU frequencies more susceptible to issues with aggressive undervolting?

So, am I more likely to have better stability with aggressive undervolting at 1.5Ghz (eg -150V) than say at 162mhz (eg -50V)?

Hope this makes sense.

Just trying to figure out a custom plan for undervolting across the various frequencies.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 0.0:
Are you on the latest beta? If not, flash it

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djvoleur:
Which branch is the lower frequencies applied to? I was looking at your github and couldn't find it :confused: or a link to it? :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] michael miq:
hahahahaha yeah it's the same. i thought we have to put the number just like in his screenshot. turn out that is not the case.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
right now it exist as pure diff patch file, search back a few posts (diff.zip). I will update the git when I officially release the stable version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DarkenCypher:
If I may ask

I'm on 012 and in the trickster MOD app there is a setting that's called eco mode. Does that limit the cores running to 2? I just wavy to make sure.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djvoleur:
Gotcha...thank you sir :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] resynx:
Yes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DarkenCypher:
Thank you kind sir!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] awacker89:
New to Faux, I HAVE TO buy an app for best performance?

I recently moved to this kernel on my N4 because I used Faux's kernels in my Sensation 4G days. I'm currently on the Turbo Boost Mainline. After reviewing other front page posts from Faux, I'm not so sure I made the right decision.

Just to clarify, these posts say that most of the benefits from these kernels come from using a setting that is not chosen by default and can only be changed with the $5 app. So which kernel option is actually going to give me a clear cut performance enhancement with simple system controls like System Tuner or is there no option to get the best performance other than purchasing the app?

Faux, what happened to the good ole days of AROMA installers that let me pick all these individual options upon installation?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rafase282:
Use this, then you can change most of the settings for free.

Or use scripts.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Use trickster. It's free.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] linelock:
You don't need the app. You can set everything with scripts or terminal commands. I believe trickstermod supports most if not all the features. But I choose to purchase the app in support of the guy that brings so many innovations.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] faux123:
Everything can be adjusted via init.d. On Pyramid we were lucky to have Yank555 do the aroma scripts (I never learn how to do it). If you want you can still use AROMA scripts to set up everything but I am not the person to ask for.

Remember, my app, is optional, but does make life easier to change things. You can also use SystemTuner and Trickster's Mod with my kernel as well. No one is forcing you to use my app :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hatyrei:
MY phone is getting hot with the new settings on fauxclock app. i just turned on 1 and 3 and leave 2 off. is this normal? and sometimes I can see the core 4 is offline.