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[Nexus 4 General] joshyy_rey:
Exactly, I like the S3 screen but i realize it is not accurate coloring! Amoleds make you believe what you are seeing is how colors look in real life. The IPS in the N4 is more accurate and sharper.
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
I understand where many people are coming from when they say "washed out screen", but when you compare it to the overly saturated Samsung screens it does make a huge difference. I honestly love the N4 screen and think it's 10x better than the gNex, and is not even compareable to my G2X...I must say however, that the N4 has an unbelieveably nice, realistic color looking scheme with it's screen and I absolutely adore it!
[Nexus 4 General] cloud1111:
Lol OP sounds like a bit of a troll.
[Nexus 4 General] TwinkyOfHope:
I'm coming from a Gnex, and I have been extremely impressed with the speed of the N4. The colors on my Gnex were very purple, but a custom kernel and ROM were able to correct it. The screen on the N4 looks a little white in comparison, way better than purple. I can live with this for now, but I will be flashing as soon as any worthwhile looking ROM and kernels come out.
[Nexus 4 General] d_phekt:
I'm also coming from a GNex. I like the N4 screen so much more. The colors on the GNex always made the icons and a lot of other things seem cartoonish to me. The N4 seems so much more natural. When I first got my GNex one of the first things I looked for was a kernel with some kind of voodoo color... Same thing with my Nexus S.
[Nexus 4 General] qpqpqp:
Your eyes has been messed up by samsung amoled screen their colors are always saturated and exposed. Its not accurate. With both the GNex and the SIII you've been on their drug for too long. Welcome back to reality.

Just to make sure your device isn't defective try visiting a tmobile store and compare your phone with the ones on display to see if its the same.
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
I agree - it does do everything I want it to - but so did my GNex - the whole purpose of dropping another $350 on a phone, is that the upgrade is actually an upgrade.

Only upside is that they are in such high demand that it'll sell with a profit. Sorry to whoever buys it and feels ripped off by me :D
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
LOL? Really? Just because my opinion isn't something you agree with doesn't make me a troll.

I've been here for quite a few years, and you are the first to ever call me a troll. Kudos.
[Nexus 4 General] droidmakespwn:
Are you sure that your display isn't acted screwed up? I had a galaxy note, an s3 and a galaxy nexus. I love samoled but the screen on my n4 is also amazing and much better in many respects.
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
only 2 things bug me about the n4

1. static noise from headset (well not really since you only hear it in a quiet room and put the phone to your ear)

2. battery life

amoled is so bad in low brightness, turns useless when you're outside, and the burn in
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
I thought the same thing, then I compared it at the local T-Mobile store and it looks the same. I guess Amoled really did screw me up - but at least black is actually black on that. Given the comments here, it is clearly a personal thing. I just can't get used to the washed out colors. Reception is also weaker and audio over Bluetooth crackles.

Don't get me wrong - it is a gorgeous phone, but I had hoped for more.
[Nexus 4 General] dbdynsty25:
Yeah, I agree the N4 looks more washed out, but as everyone has said, it's all about OLED and the perceived color compared to realistic color.

I also noticed that my GNex had more of a yellow (warmer) tint to it whereas the N4 is more bluish-white. I much prefer the N4 screen and it's not even close.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Exactly. I'm reading this thread on my Nexus 4 and thinking some of these folks must be crazy. This is an amazing phone.
[Nexus 4 General] n82k:
Lol I said the same thing. Always had a cartoony android wall on my gnex, put it on my n4 and no go but put a good dark HD wall on it and the beauty is intense.
[Nexus 4 General] D0rkiness:
I'm a photographer and prefer the bright vivid colors on my note 2. And I'm not ashamed of that at all. My phone has nothing to do with my job. When it comes to my camera I want natural colors of course. I actually know a lot of photographers/artist that have a note or note 2.

But I also bought the N4 because I just love Google and the updates. The N4 is a great device and even though I prefer the amoled screen on my note 2 I don't think the colors are washed out at all on the N4. I just really love them both.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Different stroke for different folks. ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] late8:
The more I use this phone the more of a disappointment it is. Screen isn't too bad.. colour is more natural IMO but other stuff make it a phone very much worthy of its price tag.

Camera is crap, audio isn't that good..horrid from the speaker, loose volume button is just bad bad build !.

Android 4.2 is buggy, battery life is very average .. worse under heavy load.

Then the lack of removable battery and SD card rub salt back in. Performance wise, with all that muscle it does no better in fact worse than the S3 and iphone5.. Where is it all gone?
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
You're disappointed because you've become convinced your phone is worth what you paid?
[Nexus 4 General] osugsxr:
Xda users are too damn picky!

I'm in the backorder boat , still thinking of canceling my order. I'm content with the iPhone 4S may sell/trade for an iPhone 5 or back to a gs3. Camera on iPhone is great, display as well. Gs3 I liked the phone besides size , just a tad too big. Touch wiz was another reason I sold it.

Content without rooting. Custom Roms and daily flashing and back ups. Think my ideal phone would be gs3 stock android with no issues. Nexus 4 still debating it.
[Nexus 4 General] theguitarman94:
Yes he's right. Now if you think of it in a non smart ass way you will know that the nexus 4 is a cheap phone and he's saying it's worth the money therefore it feels and performs like a cheap phone.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I just don't see how that's cause to be disappointed. If I get a steak for $5, I expect a $5 steak and am not disappointed when it is overcooked and gristly. If you buy a $350 phone, why complain that it is no better than a $350 phone?
[Nexus 4 General] frigidazzi:
My energizer qi pass works fine. What qi charger don't work?
[Nexus 4 General] prinzhernan:
I'm not an amoled fan or anything but read this article. Amoled can actually produce real world accurate colors. Amoled initially might have over saturated colors but it can be tweaked using the stock rom.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57540240-85/screens-test-part-2-galaxy-note-2-vs-apple-iphone-5/
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Anyone who thinks this phone is equivalent to what a $350 phone should be is simply an idiot. What good phone has been priced at $350 off contract and has come close to the quality and performance as this?? None.

That's not saying that the N4 is without fault, however, saying that is barely worth $350 is ridiculous.
[Nexus 4 General] nbell13:
You are obviously high, or blind. Probably both.

---------- Post added at 10:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ----------

"marginally faster than the Nexus...at best."... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA right... I noticed I severely downgraded hardware performance wise when I went from a Galaxy S2 to the GNex... And the Nexus 4 blows the S2 completely out of the water.
[Nexus 4 General] EnIXmA:
I just love the nexus 4. Its an amazing device for the price, plus I am not a big fan of amolee screens due to over saturated colors and burn in issues
[Nexus 4 General] chrisnk204:
Why are ppl arguing these are all opinions its okay hes not gonna alter the N4 popularity he dosent like it but its the best value for your money ive ever seen with these specs i actually didnt believe it the first time ive seen it i questioned it for a month until i got a definitive answer. Bottom line is amoled is over-saturated but some ppl like that and some ppl dont this is a more than great device for the amount but phones are always progressing but ill never stray from the nexus line anymore( htc sensation owner but not for long )
[Nexus 4 General] uberNoobZA:
Is it 2 or 4 things? :p
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Well, the N4 is IPS not AMOLED, so those last two weren't directed at N4.
[Nexus 4 General] late8:
Because the phone is made to the high-end spec matching top range models from Samsung, HTC and Apple - sold at a higher mark up. If the N4 was the same price as those it would fail. Thats probably why Google are selling it closer to cost.

Just because its cheap doesn't make it qualify to be acceptable to problems - the S3 and iPhone 5 cost around the same to produce as the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] tpboi:
I love my n4. It has some minor problem But they don't stop me from falling in love with it. Just like your gf or wife...they are not perfect But Ure still madly in love with her!! :D
[Nexus 4 General] sampy14:
what I have noticed is that only the UI and the icons look washed out while browsing, watching videos and looking at photos the colors are perfect.

It might happen because the saturation and contrast of the UI is adjusted for the GNEX display.

I tried this: I increased the saturation of the icons and set up the same UI in a custom launcher; the result was amazing.
[Nexus 4 General] theguitarman94:
So you're comparing the expectation of a steak to a mobile phone? Let's be honest the phone is cheap but it's still not amazingly cheap. it's still 75% of the price of a normal smartphone. Here in the UK anyway. In America you guys get EVERYTHING at ridiculous prices. It's still costs enough money to be a let down for the price. I don't have it so I can't personally say it's a let down but there are lots of people who say it's not great.
[Nexus 4 General] yellowman82:
This thread makes me giggle lol idk much about the s3 screen besides ir having a pentile which I heard really sucks. I did choose the note 2 over the s3 and the n4 and I do understand where you guys are coming from with the saturated colors but on the note 2 I just play with the settings and its really looking much better then it came stock wise and like I said im not sure how well the s3 screen is since I really aint pay no mind to it but im pretty sure the note 2 screen is much better since its not pentile like the s3.
[Nexus 4 General] MarkGbe:
what the... this is bizarro post.

Comparing it to my gnex that is sitting right next to my n4 right now... the galaxy nexus looks like a dated playskool toy. Here are the facts, not opinions...

Screen is better than gnex - it is.. its a fact

wireless charging works correctly on the correct chargers. - a quick google search will reveal the chargers that work fine...

oh and the gnex is about 200 times slower than the N4.. - fact. it's 200 friggin times slower. it is, seriously.

all in all.... it's a far superior phone. so... what the?
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
That's because we're not a bunch of European Socialist Commies... ;)

Seriously, that's a joke. I love you guys, honestly.

I have had mine for almost a week now and, from my perspective, it's not a cheap-feeling phone. The screen is sharp, the battery is a step up from my Skyrocket, and the build is solid and it feels/looks nice. It's fast, smooth, and runs the OS I want. I'm not sure what could be construed as "cheap" about it save that it doesn't have LTE (I had LTE for a year and whoopdeedoo...I never did a damn thing that utilized it to even ten percent of its capabilities so what do I need 40Mbps on my phone for? Much better suited for my mifi.) and maybe storage space but I'm a big cloud user so the 8GB is more than enough for me.

I respect other people's thoughts and feelings so if you don't like the phone I say return it and get what you want. But I personally don't understand people thinking that it's a "cheap" phone, unless you're speaking specifically about price.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Well, personally, I don't see what the problems are. I'm overjoyed with this phone. So, I can't really figure out what people expect their phone to do, but I'd be perfectly content with this phone if I'd paid $600. It is beautiful, it feels great, it runs great, I have never been more pleased with a phone. But, even if it felt "cheap" and was made of plastic, and had a gross blue display, and slow choppy manufacturer skin (see what I did there) I'd be happy paying $350 for it.

Basically, even if you paid $1,000 for a phone: they don't mass produce a better processor, a phone probably won't utilize more than 2GB RAM, no non-Nexus device will get faster updates, few devices have a higher PPI display, Gorilla Glass is arguably the best tech glass available. It's not really a matter of just the price, this is one of the best devices available (it is, why else are people comparing it to SGSIII, HOX, iPhone5, Lumia900 rather that the Samsung T159), if this is a let down for people, they cannot be satisfied, if they want to they'll find an issue with any phone. Once you factor in the price, I cannot justify anyone being let down.
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
How did you do this? :)
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Actually, no. First of all i can still see pixels on Note's screen. Secondly, it is still AMOLED so the color calibration is way off. This is basically what the thread is about.

I do have both Note 2 and Nexus4. Initially Note2's screen does look better but once you get used to the color of IPS it's really hard to go back to AMOLED.

I even compared the same picture of a yellow dress with blue objects. AMOLED looks way off. So unless you prefer looking at the things the way it wasn't meant to be....

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It has just occurred to me, since so many love the 'lively' color on AMOLED, let's go check what screen a Galaxy Camera has. And viola, it doesn't have AMOLED. Instead it has SLCD. So on one thing that you absolutely need to see more accurate color, what does Samsung use? Right

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_camera_gc100-4961.php
[Nexus 4 General] downwiththebanksters:
It's been said before, but OLED, love it or hate it, is ORGANIC light emitting diodes. Yes they are beautiful screens, but they degrade in a year. I'd like to think my flagship phone is good for at least three years. My S2 screen has serious screen burn in along the top. It's still a great phone, and I love it. I have a plasma tv too so I love great screens. Unfortunately neither technology stays looking great for very long. When the N4 gets here I'm gonna take a good long look at it, but it's Achilles heel will be a battery that will eventually die. However the battery will be more changeable than a screen, and will last longer than a year. Yes these are all first world problems, but why can't someone make the perfect phone... great bright accurate screen, good removable battery, wireless charging, gobs of built in and removable storage, a musical DAC, a powerful yet frugal CPU, durable but elegant housing in wide variety of tasteful colours, an unlocked bootloader, and a versatile imaging system that provides near point and shoot quality? Just because Apple can't do it doesn't mean it's not possible....
[Nexus 4 General] androidino95:
Because there would not be room for improvement any more then.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Nexus 4 General] downwiththebanksters:
Apply the test of reasonableness

Yes, and it keeps us on a consumerist treadmill at a time of A) dwindling resources , or, B) increasing global demand from an expanding middle class. We just can't afford to throw stuff away so quickly IMO. I bought my SGS2 hoping for at least 2 years for me, and could then hand it off to someone else who could still get a bit of a "wow" out of it for another year or so. Is that too much to ask from a flagship phone that cost around 780$ on launch day?
[Nexus 4 General] droidmakespwn:
Definitely love the very black blacks on amoled. To get a similar effect on this brightness does need to be set pretty low. Cannot comment on the Bluetooth thing because I haven't used it but I can say for me my signal has been far better than my gnex. Also much faster data speed.
[Nexus 4 General] User1110:
When you're coming from two high end android phones to another equally high end phone, of course your new phone wont blow you away. I got my Nexus 4 two days ago and coming from a sidekick 4g it's like night and day. :) Most users upgrading from phones with Android 2.3 or below will be very impressed with this phone. Those who are coming from a Galaxy Nexus, S3, One x, or note 2 will not be as impressed and may even be a little disappointed in some aspects of the Nexus 4 in real world usage.
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Lol...you guys crack me up. Because people prefer the amoled screen over the Nexus, you call them a troll and say their eyes are deceiving them? That's the sorriest defense of a product I have ever seen. Who cares if it's oversatturated or "not accurate"...certainly there are a ****load of people that prefer that look in a mobile phone. Judging from sales figures and even the N4's own forum, I would say y'all are in the minority, not the op. I understand giving him suggestions to fix his issues, but to jump down his throat or say his opinion is wrong makes each of you look rather silly.
[Nexus 4 General] Docavelli:
Then why would you keep it? You could easily sell it now.
[Nexus 4 General] cloud1111:
The reasons you said your disappointed were because of the screen. Most people say it is better, but saying it's awful is over exaggerating.

Wireless display doesn't work, and as you said, it's not the phones fault.

Wireless charging does work, just because it doesn't work with all Qi certified chargers like you want it to.

Reasons why the Nexus 4 is better:

Will receive updates for longer due to better hardware

Has the best cpu in any android phone

Has 2GB ram

hsdpa-42mbps compared to 21mbps

bluetooth 4

better camera

Has much better graphics

Gps supports Glonass

Gorilla Glass 2 is SO SO smooth

Though not as tough, phone feels premium and solid and looks awesome.

Biggest selling point of the phone is the price, you wouldn't be losing much at all if you sold your Galaxy Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] zealtor:
Coming from samsung AMOLED displays, I felt the same way at first and thought something was wrong with the screen. However, the more I use it, the more I like it over the samsung displays. Having said that, I believe there is still some room for improvement with proper calibration. Hopefully custom roms/kernels can take this screen to its full potential.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Its true that amoled screens are eye candy and catch your attention with the vivid colors, I think we can all agree on that. However I find the display on the nexus 4 to be fantastic to say the least, it is so sharp and crisp, you definitely can't see a single pixel. Usually the first impression is the one that is true and that's how I felt when I first booted up the N4. Overall it's a great phone, so is the Gnexus.
[Nexus 4 General] sickred:
Coming from a super amoled screen the colors do look washed out. But In a day or two of use and you get used to them. I'm loving my N4 and the screen is awesome!
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
Few things about amoled that were always bug me.

1. Screen banding. On nexus you had to be very lucky to get one without.

2. Screen burn in - took one year to get nice blue ish bars where navigation and status bar were.

In terms of nexus 4.... Well I love the build quality. Got a bit of rattling where the camera is but doesn't bother me much ..

And most importantly speed. This thing s starts up in less than 15 seconds... Galaxy nexus took 1 minute on average
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
I agree on have to get used to the screen. But the other 2 things are on qi and your mirror cast box.
[Nexus 4 General] GoreTan:
This thread should be closed. We don't care about how OP is not impressed. I clearly do not see a point to this thread, it's merely all opinionated, biased, and even trolling.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Yeah, the screen is noticeably less saturated than my Sensation. Not a huge deal but a bit of a letdown.
[Nexus 4 General] Overdose1986:
You should sell it to me xD
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
My old GNex's screen had a horrible blue tint to it whenever you tilted the screen, even the slightest. The N4 is a huge improvement.
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
Once you go blacks are black you can never go back.
[Nexus 4 General] ajftl:
Exactly LOL. Super amoled or super duper amoled screen colors aren't real. They super saturated ..the ips screen colors are more natural and close to a real life. Like the slcd 2 but that's better. I mean the gnex still a nice phone but the n4 is progression. New hardware. Faster cpu. 2 gig memory. I'm using a bunch of stuff and still have like 1.2 gig free LOL. I'm using a Nokia wireless charging and works good.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Eh, my HOX shows blacks very good.

Blacks are black, not grey - just not black black.

But to counter your argument, I'd say once you go whites are white, you can never go back.
[Nexus 4 General] pack21:
If the OP is so disappointed, why not propose here a direct exchange with his N4 by a Gnexus.

Certainly would make other guy happy and himself.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
I really get tired of seeing people say that the colors on amoled screens are oversaturated and unrealistic.

Quit being a damn Nexus/IPS fan boy and just admit you like overly bright whites that actually wash out colors. Take a look at any of the 100 pics people have uploaded of the Nexus 4 screens (not screenshots as those show nothing, but actual pictures of the screen).

All of the whites are way too bright, and the colors are faded/washed out. Fact.

Amoled has deep, true blacks and vibrant colors. Fact.

Now I see all the hopefuls saying "it's just not calibrated, an update can fix the gamma blah blah"

I've seen that same damn hopeful assumption on every damn washed out screen thread and guess what? THEY NEVER PUSH OUT ANY UPDATE THAT MAKES YOUR DISPLAY BETTER. It's going to look like that FOREVER so deal with it, and quit pretending the amoled isn't better. It IS, bottom line, the limitations of LCD is the reason why LCD TV's friggin SUCK

End. Of. Story.

Doesn't mean I won't buy the Nexus 4 (Still debating it). But that display will NEVER look better than my GS3 or the Note 2. I don't care what anyone says about amoled being some sort of drug or bull crap like that.

"Look how beautiful the sky looks today, it's such a vibrant blue"

"That's not as good as the sky yesterday, that's too blue, it's just the way the ozone is oversaturating the color. Yesterday's paler sky is better because it was more realistic."

Please.
[Nexus 4 General] Androd - A true story.:
at the end of day..

at the end of day... do you think its wise to sell the s3 and go for the N4? i know it beats s3 in nearly every aspect..? should i wait or....?
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
How is the best mobile SoC on the market, 2GB of RAM, 8mp camera, an IPS display (some might argue this is not a better screen, truth is AMOLED is over saturated and for me it personally hurth my eye) and a build that is not 100% plastic (minus the screen) not an upgrade? And it's not even unaffordable!
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
The Nexus 4 is a definite upgrade to the Gnex. Outclasses it in almost every way
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Comparing to the N7, the N4 color is a little "faded out". Just my 2 pennies.