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[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Well..honestly I was thinking of that, but as someone that lives in the US, I cloud most of my things, or pandora, or tinyshark, or my google account..So storage is now something not that important for me. As long as its 16 or above im good. Now the 8gb? thats a joke..specially nowadays..I think that one is aimed solely to developers .
[Nexus 4 General] chaval:
Why would I?

Of course It would consume more juice.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Cos it will show how pants the battery is :)

No iPhone user ever does audio streaming as its a test that shows the battery for what it is, megabytes are downloaded, pure and simple - and these megabytes use battery capacity.

But anyway, guess we can say bye to you now.

*waves*
[Nexus 4 General] AppReviewBros:
To be honest I was really looking forward to buying the iPhone 5, however, the screen size is what held me back.

The only benefit to using iOS is the availability of high quality apps that are not available to Android users. But then again, playing games on such small screen is rather hard.
[Nexus 4 General] Ballastatuz:
Yeah the iPhone is not exciting. I had an iPhone since the 3G. Now I'm using my iPhone 4 until my nexus 4 gets here. I've had an s2 and s3 in the past few months. I really miss how easy android makes everything. I don't care about the camera. It takes better pictures than my iPhone 4. I already thought the 4 took awesome pictures. I want the rubber sides in the nexus. The iPhone hurts in your hand when you hold it. I don't like cases. Plus a 4.5 inch screen is way better than a 4.0. I am so use to bigger screens that I hate reading on my 4. Also virtual buttons are way better than the psychical. The psychical dies pretty fast. Plus it's nice that the buttons go away in different apps. Also the back and multitasking button being there is so much better than pressing the home button different ways. Also the way how google now opens is so elegant.
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
I'd take the iPhone over this phone anyday. LG completely ****ed up the touchscreen. It is the least responsive touchscreen I have ever used since resistive touchscreens. I'm not even talking about sensitivity. It literally fails at sending input data real time to the phone. Go on display tester and move your finger even a little bit quickly, and you will see that it doesnt keep up. Sad. **** you, LG.

Looking forward to the next Nexus. It better be Sony, or I'm leaving Android. **** this compromising ****.
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Go ahead, go buy your iCrap and leave..nobody cares.

But yes you're right, a Sony Xperia Nexus would just be so damn nice.
[Nexus 4 General] BomuDicq:
Should i remind you that both phones got lg's screen? If LG is completely ****ed up with screen as you say,sorry but that goes same for iphone 5.
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Stop people stop trolling and stop answering trolls or else a mod will close this thread

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[Nexus 4 General] cloud1111:
I chose the Nexus 4 as it just works and it is very easy to use. No lag whatsoever, great battery life, feels fantastic, latest updates from Google and HALF the price of an iphone 5.
[Nexus 4 General] Blazing angel:
Bahahaha troll just got owned :p
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
I think a strong point of the n4 is its selling price. google is letting you get a new phone ,not needing to upgrade at a great price . I think that's one of the main reasons they are sold out. Can't argue on a brand new device at 300 dolares
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Bahahaha read my Sig. I have the new iPod touch with the same panel as the iPhone. It doesn't suffer from this issue. Clearly, Apple has better quality control. LG completely ****ed up the touchscreen for the N4. Too many blind fanboys in this thread that think anything mildly positive about the iPhone is trolling. What a pathetic inferiority complex.

Oh, and "Bahahahahah" :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Better quality control?

Say that to the 1/3 of iPhone 5's received that had the paint chipped. (Scuffgate)

Survey by apples own fanboy website, Mac rumours.

Or maybe its the high data bug, or the poor mapping service

Or maybe its the in-cell LCD problems that have been reported for a bubble effect and severe flickering, or maybe its the light leak problems of the white version of IP5....

I don't think they even checked the quality. LOL

So, I guess its you that's also got the troll blinkers attached to your eyes.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
I'm pretty sure they're both high-end phones. They both have their big-ish screens and their 8MP cameras and their quad core processors and retina displays. In no universe is the Nexus a mid-end phone, but however, they sell it near that price or perhaps even cheaper somehow.

I used an iPhone for about four years, switched to Android, and I don't regret my decision. Apple, as a company, I don't agree with mostly, with their pure motivations looking at profits. Though that is a good way to run a business, Google manages to run one as well without that primary motivation, and they seem to be more directed at the consumers' needs. That being said, the iPhone 5 is a good phone and a worthy replacement for a Nexus 4 (especially if they're both at the same price), but Apple being Apple, there will never be a time when Apple will sell their iPhone's at such a price, as they do go towards taking out as much money out of their customers as possible (e.g. if people would buy their iPhones at 300 on contract, then iPhone's would be 300 on contract and no less). Yes, phones like the SGS3 are also 200 on contract but realistically, within a month or two of their release, you might be able to find it at near 100 or 50 or perhaps even free on Black Friday or something.

The iPhone just works at times, but Android does provide the more exciting/ advanced yet not always perfect software (sort of like how Macs and PC's are at times). In the end, some people prefer a device that "just works" over one that you can mess around with more, or vice versa. In the end, to each their own.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
LOL - even facebook HQ who have been known to be very pro-apple now tell their employees to ditch iPhones for Android.

The droid has taken over!!

Someones gonna lose, and the time has arrived to choose your side, choose wisely. lol

Seems facebook at least have chosen.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
^^^That's only because they want the Facebook employees to enhance the Facebook application by forcing them to work with it.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
No, it shows android has taken over and they make more money and more popularity with android :)
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
Umm, no, there are numerous articles expressing Facebook's concerns with it's own Android application being laggy, and what they're doing in response here, and here, and here

That's why they call it Droidfooding, like dogfooding, which is forcing the employees to use their own products (eat their own dogfood). Their iOS application is a lot better than the Android version (especially factoring in most employees are using iOS), which they're trying to fix.
[Nexus 4 General] Ajfink:
This is true.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] dankoman:
Open up your iPhone 5 and you'll see how durable that aluminum really is. Puh-leese. It's merely a fascia that gives the illusion of a " strong, durable" layer of aluminum. iSheep.
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
comon dudes ..its not about durable or better material..its ios or android..their both very different platforms with very different experiances..if u want to know what ios has and what android doesnt and what android has and ios doesnt...go for android...android enthusiasts dont actually become sheep..theyr real...ios enthusiasts bash android for god knows wat and why..
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
- Iphone 5 for peoples who only doing call , messages , internet surfing , isheeps :p

- nexus 4 (android ) for those who needs much more then above isheeps ...more customization :D

Bew - i want to see this type of comparision in apple Iphone section :)
[Nexus 4 General] MusicMan374:
I completely disagree with the troll flaming of the iPhone 5. It is an excellent device, especially for not so tech savvy people who need an easy ui experience. IOS has the advantage in ease of use and customer support. Android takes the cake in customization, versatility, and frequent updating. Both are excellent operating systems but you have to admit android has a much larger and more complicated learning curve than iOS. I'm a die hard android fan, ever since the g1, but I still see the advantages of an iPhone.

Those of you bringing intelligent arguments and support for or against either device, thank you, those bringing uninformed spewed criticisms, take it somewhere else, stop cluttering an attempt at an intelligent discussion/debate.

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Additionally, about the touch screen, I have to argue that it is an excellent panel. It supports more multi touch points than you will ever need (it recognized and tracked all 10 of my fingers simultaneously in real time and without lag) and is incredibly responsive. Whatever lag you speak of must be a defect with an individual device. Even if there were a few milliseconds of lag, how often do you really notice that in every day usage?
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
What a fanboy you are. Nice job. So because Android has more shipments I should choose it? You are the definition of a fanboy. Oh, and just so you know, more than half those ****droids are sold in third world countries and can barely run a simple fart app, while every iPhone sold today is capable of running basically every app on the app store. It's funny how even my friend's iPhone 4 can run a lot of apps faster than my Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Its because many lower end android phones are cheaper in price than iPhone so their hardware is also weaker no doubt lower end ones would lag somewhere, and I don't mind if my phone runs a fart app 1 Or 2 seconds behind another phone as long as it matches with my preference

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[Nexus 4 General] beatmania82:
I believe comparison should be more based on the users needs.

Is hard to compare the 2 phones, because the OS is 2 different language.

iOS using Objective C - everything is running faster, smoother.

Blackberry using C++. - smoother and faster.

Android using Java - the JVM is the main cost of all the lacks and slowness, needs faster CPU and ram to load.

you can see only android is not as smooth as iOS or BB because it is using Java.

Because of the os language, Iphone and BB can use slower CPU then android phone and have still have better performance.

I love the IPhone, it is a very good high end phone. If compare to android, I would rate Iphone better, only bad thing on Iphone is the small screen size and apple map.

In my opinion, I will still only use Android phone. It is because it could serve all my needs easily. Android good for roots, rom, apps, customization, which iphone are not easy to do.
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
And you talk about fanboys? Lol
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
You've been trolling Google & Android since you came on here - just look at all your posts.

Your the plonker who sold his phone for a phone they openly stated they didn't like, then moaned even further that you now 'had to' order the Nexus 4!

Yawn - your boring everyone.

ZzZz

I noticed you ignored my reply to your trolling of build quality, let me remind you. :)

No?

These are untruthful right?

Muuhahahaha
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Well said.
[Nexus 4 General] MusicMan374:
Thanks.

Its just hard to put either phone to shame. Both are really excellent devices. I'm personally into frequent software updates and customization features and such. Android is evolving constantly and updates are exciting. This is the best combination of hardware and software I've seen yet on android, right up there with Apple's software hardware combo. This phone was really a good collaborative effort of both lg and Google. They really married the software and hardware, where in the past there has been sort of a disconnect, as with Windows computers compared to apple computers. I think Google finally overcame that.

Also, many people have commented on my new phone and how nice and sleek and fancy it is. People notice this device, it's a great design.

Anyway at this point I'm just repeating what I've already said and it pretty much amounts to I love this device. /end rant
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Correct interfacing of hardware and software was the part where android lagged behind but now this problem seems to be solved with nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Looks like lte works in Canada on nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Correct . Once band 4 starts in the US we will have it as well
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
Yup at&t and t mobile should be using band 4 sometime from now

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[Nexus 4 General] tspx23:
i've literally tried every phone on the market from the g1 to the galaxy s3. i've also owned all of the iphone generations except for the 5.

From my experiences ios vs android the decision is simple. for people who want an easy to use ui out of the box the clear winner is iOS. If someone gave me an android phone and i never used it before i would struggle with the hundreds of customization options/widgets/appdrawer/homescreen/lockscreen widgets/etc.

Since I do have a background in both though, it is really difficult to go back to an iPhone. (Unfortunately I sold my S3 to buy the Nexus 4 which still hasn't arrived so I will admit I am using my 4s right now). The way that I can customize my phone makes every operation faster on my android phone. Versus having just two options on an iPhone folders/main home screen to get to an app/function. Also the lack of dedicated multitouch/search/back buttons is downright annoying. It takes more time to get out of an application/I can get to things with less touches on an android. EX the stupid double tap to show recent apps on an iphone and to switch into an app to get to the screen takes longer than it does on another android.

Also for the other people yapping about Apple's superior build quality/materials give it a break. The iPhone went a full circle from the ip2g to the ip5 now we have metal back on it which is softer than the original (they do have exceptional customer service and of the people who have complained apple is replacing devices that were defective upon arrival). That being said it still looks amazing but going back to a smaller screen especially for multimedia is a big nogo. Videos/youtube/gaming is a pain in the butt on the iPhone. Not to mention most of the apps that are available for free on Android you need to pay for on iOS. It's just frustrating and I hope I can get my Nexus 4 soon haha.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I saw an unlocked iPhone 5 at amazon for $1100.... That is just insane unless it communicates with the starship enterprise.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my back ordered Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
I had an iPhone 4S. I also own 5 iPods,1 iPad 2, iMac and Macbook pro so I do really like apple :P.

My only giant problem with their iOS devices is the need for it to be synced to one computer only. I reformat my Macs every so often and also have a gaming pc . It makes it really annoying to have to have to re sync and make sure all my music and videos are on one computer. With Android I can download anywhere and upload on my phone. I can even set ring tones without needing to sync.

I do love the strong design of the iPhone 4S. It's nice and not as slippery as the nexus 4.

I was also disappointed by iOS 6.
[Nexus 4 General] jodvova:
So, you own 5 iPods, iPad 2, iMac and Macbook, but your signature says:

This doesn't compute.
[Nexus 4 General] ppeklak:
Looks like he was only listing phones
[Nexus 4 General] bermudaviper:
I've owned every iPhone since the original up to the iPhone 4, I chose not to upgrade to the 4S in wait for the 5. I thought the 5 would be groundbreaking but it left me feeling rather underwhelmed. This is why I've now ordered a N4.
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
That's how much the n4 is going due its sold out status. I've seen some ebayers raping people like crazy
[Nexus 4 General] cbutters:
QFT

I had an iphone5 for a few days, and I seriously wanted to puke from the length of the device, it isn't any better than the 3.5 inch on the iphone4, in fact the majority of apps hadn't even been updated so they just letterboxed down to 3.5 inches and you were sitting there like a tool with a way too long iphone that was long to be long. instead of extending the screen to take up more of the device, they just stretched the device, and it looks ridiculous in my opinion, I couldn't stomach it and sold it.
[Nexus 4 General] Guitarfreak26:
I adore the nexus 4 and I'm using it as my main device. I have an iPhone too but I'm purely waiting for a jailbreak and that's when the iPhone can actually hold my attention..

At the moment I'm just bored of squares, not even got any contact photos in the messaging app.. sigh
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yeah but I am saying the standard price new for an unlocked iPhone 5 is crazy. Even an unlocked base model...
[Nexus 4 General] rault18:
Oh I see. Yeah anything over 500 bucks for a phone is just silly
[Nexus 4 General] m3lover1:
Completely agree. I've had iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, then got bored and switched to Android. Been through 4 Android phones in the past two years, and wanted to switch back to Apple to have something different. After using iPhone 5 for a month and a half, found out how much I miss Android and the customization possibilities. Don't get me wrong, I still think the iPhone is a great phone, but for me the software is very boring and antiquated. I knew that when I switched to iPhone 5, but I thought I could get over it just because I haven't used iOS for couple years. And like you said, I was in love with it first couple weeks, more so because of the hardware design (I am still heads and toes in love with the design), after that settled down it's still bottom line an iPhone.

Long story short, super excited to be able to order N4 yesterday with 1-2 week shipping window :D
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
What doesn't compute? My signature just lists my past phones.

My iPods: 3rd gen classic, 1 original iPod touch, 1 2gen iPod touch, 1 iPod nano (not site which gen, the rounded square one), square nano (5th gen I think) that I use as a watch.
[Nexus 4 General] laminarpanda:
My 2 cents...

So, after over 5 years with iOS... I decided to give Android a go...

I've had my N4 for 10 days, I love it, but I'm going back to my iPhone 5... for a few simple reasons...

Battery life (e.g. 1 hour of running with Nike running app + Spotify streaming, on my iPhone I go from 100 to 80, on the N4 to about 60, screen off of course.)

Siri, I know lots of people hate it, but I got used to make calls, send text and mainly creating reminders while I have my earphones on. Maluuba on Android is almost as good, but I need to take the phone out of my pocket, unlock, etc...

My earphones' controls don't work with the N4 (try many apps to try to make them work, none worked) I have Etymotic hf3 and Martin Logan Mikros 70, so I don't really want to invest more money in Android compatible earphones.

I have an iPad and Macs, all set up with iCloud and iTunes Match... even if there are equivalents I'm not ready to invest hours of my life to make something that is easy become complicate. Google Music would take about 4 weeks to upload my music, so it's not an option

Apps and games... over 5 years I have invested quite some money in apps, and some great apps I have are not on Android

Free apps, like Spotify, Rdio and even Facebook look better on the iPhone.

I'm going to miss customising my phone and some of the unique features of my N4 (Im still keeping it thought, since I got a free TV with it ;) ). And I'll probably be going back and forth between the 2 devices... we'll see what happens.

Again, this is just me trying to share my 2 cents, I just wanted to share my honest opinion from my OWN experience on this topic.

Hope you find it useful.
[Nexus 4 General] biffsmash:
I personally would never use iphone. I refuse to be drawn into itunes, used it once, never again, seriously it's awful. I hate apple macs, and ios is so basic I just can't use it.

I get that people need simple phones and iphones suit them, they want to use a standalone app to do something, they click it, tada, but thats not me.

All these apps, "hey get the nat west app to manage your account apple fan!" i'm like "no thanks i'll just use the website on my browser and sign in!"

As for apps looking better on iphone, thats a point of view, and personally I think they look like a drawing game on a toy with those tiny screens and stupid blue theme that is on every single iphone there is.

Finally people are waking up and realising that Android is better than ios and every single iphone person I know of can't move to android for one reason......

They have spent too much money and invested too much time.... LOCKED INTO ITUNES! Icloud.. isync, islave app whataver you want to call it.

If I had to sync all my stuff i'd of gone insane twenty years ago.... whats wrong with drag and drop people??

Anyway with that out of the way, apples are usefeul if you want a simple experience but anything else, android all the way.

p.s. to anyone including the guy above i'm not having a go just my own personal opinion of apple stuff and their incredible marketting ability.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
An advantage that iPhone has over any other smart phones is how easy it is to get it repaired. Not only you can go easily to an apple store and get it fixed for software related issues, even hardware sometimes, but since its just one phone, there are tons of people online or on craigslist offering iphone repairs for the LCD, home button, glass back ( 4s for example). Its much harder with android since there are millions of devices out there and people don't focus on a droid DNA repair or a RAZR maxx HD repair. You're pretty much on your on for that.
[Nexus 4 General] i9100g user:
I think android is complicated for some people because it has more features and could take long for some to learn android fully while you can use iPhone with ease and still call it a smartphone and yea you can boast about it too :)

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