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[Nexus 4 General] peachpuff:
Just got an lte sim, 20mpbs down and 16 mpbs upload from my house, in the basement it still manages 6 down and 1 up compared to 1 down and 1 up with 3g.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Just got back last month from Puerto Rico. :D
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
So I haven't seen much talk about this on this thread. My Google Now doesn't seem to be working after enabling LTE. Anyone able to fix this problem yet?
[Nexus 4 General] Nelsocracy:
I don't have a nexus 4 so I can't test this, but how about using tasker to turn off lte every time you open it?
[Nexus 4 General] ghettopops:
Then you truly are Luckylui. Were you getting LTE in Chicago?
[Nexus 4 General] mzanette:
What's the issue with Google now?
[Nexus 4 General] orellius:
Bah, I am really tossed up on what to get as my next phone. I refused to buy Nexus 4 because of no LTE. Now it's working, somewhat (Google Play issues? other potential future issues? Google disables it someday?).

I am in Calgary and on Bell, so location is non-issue for me.

Or do I get the Bell Optimus G, same phone, but has 32 GB and SD card and full LTE functionality? then maybe root/install CM10 or some crap and turn it into a 4.2 stock phone?

Bah! Been stressing on this for weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
It seems like it can't connect to the service. The bottom of the app says "refreshed six hours ago" and when I try to refresh it ,it tries to load and nothing happens. Some of the voice commands do not work either, saying "call Pizza Hut" will just bring up a search instead of calling.
[Nexus 4 General] Qbancelli:
Who is canadian? I think you better take off those ridiculous glasses.

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http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6474/Nexus-4-10-4810.jpg
[Nexus 4 General] mzanette:
Do you have the phone set to " lte only" or " lte/gsm auto"?
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
LTE/GSM auto. A bunch of news sites have already reported that it breaks Google Now.

Furthermore, I have also noticed that Wifi Tethering doesn't seem to work with LTE enabled either. My Nexus 7 is able to see the hotspot and is able to connect, but it can not load any web pages.
[Nexus 4 General] orellius:
That too, the tethering is a deal breaker for me. Granted I'm going to wait a bit, maybe someone works it out. But I need Google Now and Tethering to function. Good thing I can't even order a Nexus if I wanted to, so now I have time!
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
I love my island :)

Schaumburg, has a 1900 MHz tower in process. Doesn't have a very large coverage as of yet tho. Not LTE speeds but its pretty much running at iPhone connection speeds.. I've been flipping the switch here and there but nothing like 60 Mbps downloads.
[Nexus 4 General] jonnyleechee:
I can't get past 2 bars while on lte
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Have you tried Mozilla Firefox browser? I noticed with Google chrome. If you don't have a enabled hotspot plan it doesn't at times connect. Firefox in the other hand does. I'm doing that with my windows PC.. It had chrome, it wouldn't connect but once I installed Firefox it up and ran.. I have the T-Mobile unlimited data plan by the way.. No hotspot. ;)

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LTE is different when it comes to the bars. It doesn't read correctly.. Its a power hog. Lol
[Nexus 4 General] mzanette:
That sucks. Hopefully this gets resolved somehow.
[Nexus 4 General] Barracuda1101:
This isnt actually new.

There was a article 2 days ago. And yes it is real. It works on telus,rogers, and bells lte network. Anyone on one of those networks can dial *#*#4636#*#* and change their radio to 2g/3g/lte auto and it will work.
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
Uhhh, you might want to go back and see when this thread was started. All the sites used XDA as the source for their articles!
[Nexus 4 General] humaders99:
I am using LTE on my nexus 4 right now tethering to my computer, so it does work. Same with google now, it works perfectly fine. I set mine to LTE/GSM/CDMA auto, and I am having no problems whatsoever.

Running on TELUS
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
I have found that Google Now works initially, but stops working after a few minutes. I don't know what to say, experiencing the problem on Rogers. Did you do any tweaks to your build.prop?
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
I've set to LTE/GSM auto and no issues with Google Now on Rogers network.
[Nexus 4 General] ponts:
I consistently have 4 full bars of LTE on Bell in Edmonton and with the build.prop mod and a factory reset it stays on 4g after reboot. WOOOHOOO! Love this phone!
[Nexus 4 General] gdap:
Can't stop using the speedtest app. Crazy speeds on my very basic bell plan.

Best buy ever.
[Nexus 4 General] humaders99:
no i have yet to do any tweaks, i dont see a need to do one since i don't restart my phone very often, and also its not too hard to redo the whole *#*#3634#*# thing. Not sure why yours isnt working :confused: . I just tested google now for about 5-10 min and it was still working fine.

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Any one know how to get this working on Virgin Mobile? My buddy tried it, but apparently he needs a specific APN for it. Anyone know what the APN settings would be?
[Nexus 4 General] Barracuda1101:
My bad. I actually read it somewhere else. I should of figured it came from xda anything worth reading regarding android comes from xda lol
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
After doing some testing it looks like the non working Google Now may be tied to location services.

After I opened Google Maps and got a lock in, Google Now started working again.

And another thing I learned. The Nexus 4 is damn slippery. I set it on my desk with a USB cable plugged in. Next thing I know my N4 is at the edge of my desk about to fall. Oh, I don't think I ever had a faster reaction time
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
No kidding. I had mine on a table with music and the speaker sound was making it slide across. It was like the disc on an air hockey table.
[Nexus 4 General] ocula:
Battery life on LTE

Any update on battery life when using LTE?
[Nexus 4 General] snickerpop:
Now that this phone has limited LTE Support. This is one way that that this phone is better than the SGIII, only one of the galaxy version has lte and a quad core. It the south Korean version, hard to get and the most expensive around 600 dollars on ebay.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Can't beat the price, specs and awesomeness of this phone! :)
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
I've noticed it does use up a bit more battery but nothing crazy. I just switch to 3g when at work and then back to LTE. Not a big deal.

I miss having that second battery to drop in whenever I need it. That's the only thing missing with the N4 for me.
[Nexus 4 General] golfinggino:
If you don't want to do the build prop mod just download the phone info app that puts you right into the testing settings you don't have to enter the * and # every time
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
So after messing around with the phone for a bit, I have figured out why my Google Now wasn't working.

Google Now relies on your location in order to display your weather, nearby places, etc... However in order to get a quick estimate it uses cell towers to gather your location. For some reason, when I enable LTE my phone gets lost as it does not receive the location of the LTE towers. This might be an issue with Rogers towers in my area.

If I open Maps I can see a flashing grey dot when I am indoors and I see "location not available" if I step outside or go near a window I get the GPS lock in and the dot turns blue and moves to where I am.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Will this become true? I want some opinions on this matter :) http://www.pc-tablet.com/11286-4g-lte-google-nexus-4-coming-price-rumors-349-8gb/

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
Are amplifiers frequency specific? Meaning, can the amplifier that works for Band 4 also work for the others Bands that are supported?
[Nexus 4 General] Whosdaman:
Please make one phone that supports all LTE frequencies, however unlikely that is
[Nexus 4 General] chrisnk204:
Has anyone checked or does anyone kno if this works on at&t or any other US provider? Dont feel like searching
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Sure does lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] twistedh:
Well, feel like it. That question is answered, over and over and over and over again in this thread. The time you spend to ask the question, wait for an answer is time you could use to SEARCH in the thread.

I'm not from the US but even I know the answer to your question after reading through the thread.
[Nexus 4 General] NardVa:
LTE only works over the AWS band. Currently no carrier in the US has LTE on the AWS band but T-mobile will start deploying LTE over the AWS band in 2013. Basically this phone will work in the future on LTE under T-mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] DaX05:
AT&T is weird. They have license to use Band 4 but they don't use it. They're on Band 17 if I'm not mistaken. Can't wait for T-Mobile (U.S.) to start their LTE rollout hopefully 1st quarter of 2013.

Beamed via Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] mzanette:
What's the build prop mod? I think I must have missed this. Is it difficult to do?
[Nexus 4 General] madj42:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34553973&postcount=379

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34554089&postcount=380

Bottom one explains the numbers.
[Nexus 4 General] mzanette:
Thank you! Is a factory reset necessary? Doesn't that erase all content from your device?
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Yes to both. Just back up how ever you like. I mostly care about my pictures but they are uploaded to Dropbox and G+ auto anyways.
[Nexus 4 General] VacTacks11:
Just want to say thanks for this. I'll probably be buying mine from someone locally, as I have no idea when the next wave is going to hit. Great to see we can get LTE to stick.
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Apologies if this has been answered previously but will this support EE (UK), Optus (Australia) and/or Telstra (Australia) at all? All on the 1800MHz frequency.
[Nexus 4 General] iusauser:
Well, at least in Mexico the Nexus 4 can be used with Telcel´s LTE, which works in BC4

for now all articles related to this topic, indicate that the N4 only supports LTE in BC4 (while 1800MHz is BC3)

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[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Aww gutted :(

Thanks for the info!
[Nexus 4 General] svengalis:
ah nevermind.
[Nexus 4 General] florian3000:
Dangit! Austria (Europe) then is NOT on BC4. What the heck... LTE enabled on the N4 and now the frequencies are the problem.
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
Pretty much everyone in Europe and Australia are using the 1800mhz LTE bands which this phone is not supporting.
[Nexus 4 General] florian3000:
Thanks for the info. Need 2.6Ghz band for A1 Telekom Austria. But looks like our providers are going to refarm some useful frequencies soon in 2013.
[Nexus 4 General] cmstlist:
It's unlikely you'll see Band IV deployed anywhere in Europe or Asia, as its upstream frequency range overlaps with the DCS 1800 band and its downstream frequencies are the same as IMT 2100.
[Nexus 4 General] ran495:
what are the chances some DEV can get the Band I and II hardware activated on the N4? do they just need the software stack from the optimus G?
[Nexus 4 General] twistedh:
Seriously, read the thread. Your question has been discussed multiple times.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
I don't understand why I have to do a factory reset for the build brop to work weird
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
Wow fast !!! I also just got 67
[Nexus 4 General] NotEnoughMinerals:
Have you had success in getting it to stick? Mine only sticks for the first reboot after factory reset and then reverts back to WCDMA preferred.
[Nexus 4 General] psyko514:
By following these steps, does LTE become permanently enabled? In other words, is there an easy way to disable LTE temporarily once these changes are made?
[Nexus 4 General] suchevent:
wow, all you n4 owners must feel like xmas came early this year. lte was my main reason for crossing the n4 off of my next-phone list but now that all this is coming to light, i think i need to reconsider. kudos to the op. good work.
[Nexus 4 General] Blazing angel:
Well, all the Canadian owners :D
[Nexus 4 General] defiant103:
I went through a bunch of the thread but didn't come across this one, apologies if someone else has already asked/answered.

I'm not currently living in Canada and do understand the band restrictions, but travel there from time to time and was interested in trying this out on my Nexus 4... I keep running into a weird quirk where every time I go into the Phone Information menu, then click on "Select Radio Band" I get an "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped" message. I've gone through the crash in the log but couldn't really seem to find a smoking gun as to what was causing it. My next step was going to be a full system wipe, but I honestly haven't done anything of note to the phone so I'm not sure what could be interfering...

Any ideas?
[Nexus 4 General] cman6453:
Press on the actual band that's just under "Set preferred network type:" I assume you're trying to change the bands?
[Nexus 4 General] defiant103:
Ah, yeah, of course the most simple solution would be the right one ;) I wonder why the other menu option seems to kill it (or why they haven't removed it if it is just inactive or something). Guess I just got hung up on what wasn't working, I should have just taken a step back... Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Dang the fastest I ever got on Verizon was 55 or so

Careful tho you will burn through your data plan like that using speed test

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] peachpuff:
Sometimes it sticks for me, other times it doesn't. Oh well, going into the phone menu once a day isn't that big of a deal #firstworldproblems
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
If you read a few posts down, it actually stopped sticking for me after a couple reboots.. Apparently it does work for some people though. There will have to be another way to get it to stick, but I don't think anyone is willing to put in the effort to develop one.

The reason it theoretically only works after a factory reset is (from what I read) due to the preferences being written to the phone.apk upon first boot and then using those preferences rather than build.prop on subsequent boots. Don't take my word for it though, I'm not an expert
[Nexus 4 General] iusauser:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34531815&postcount=209

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws

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[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
I wish tethering worked when enabling lte :(
[Nexus 4 General] JJustin:
I only tried it once but wireless tethering worked for me. Just had to disconnect then reconnect it a couple times.
[Nexus 4 General] Qbancelli:
Inside the Nexus 4 and LTE.

http://www.androidcentral.com/podcast/inside-nexus-4-and-lte-anandtech-s-brian-klug
[Nexus 4 General] JJustin:
Has anyone who has changed build. Prop tried updating to 4.2.1? Did it work without reverting the changes?
[Nexus 4 General] Ittoryu:
Does anyone know whether enabling LTE for Videotron does anything? I don't think Videotron has LTE support yet; does anyone know anything about that?
[Nexus 4 General] cmstlist:
Videotron does not have LTE. They have an HSPA network on the AWS band, like Wind and Mobilicity. I know they spent a lot more money on the auction but I don't know if that means they have enough spectrum for LTE running concurrently - I doubt it.

Just read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws

Update: This morning an update started rolling out to the Nexus 4, 7, and 10. I suspected initially that Google would quickly disable LTE on band 4 on the Nexus 4 for regulatory reasons (or file a Class II permissive change with the FCC). Interestingly enough the OTA going out to the Nexus 4 bringing it to build JOP40D doesn't disable LTE on band 4 or change the baseband software version at all.

Of note, though, is that if AT&T has yet to deploy a Band 4 LTE network and the only carriers using it for LTE are otherwise on CDMA, there is no possible way that a Nexus 4 in the USA (the only place where the FCC has jurisdiction) will operate on AWS LTE*until either AT&T or T-Mobile launches such a network. Therefore I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC doesn't care.
[Nexus 4 General] kaiser_tytnii:
no dice... LTE won't stick as soon as I enter the Rogers LTE APN... will try it with DC-HSPA+ for a day or 2...
[Nexus 4 General] JJustin:
I just tried flashing 4.2.1 via CWM onto my phone (LTE enabled and build.prop lines added). Installation failed at build.prop check. I deleted the extra lines and installation still didn't work.
[Nexus 4 General] cmstlist:
Reflash system.img from the Google stock ROM via fastboot. Also reflash stock recovery.img if you have to. And then try again.
[Nexus 4 General] efrant:
An OTA update will not install if you have modified the build.prop. Removing the extra lines won't help either, as you have already broken the signature.

To get the update to work, just grab the build.prop file from the factory image and replace it on your device. (And make sure the permissions are set to 644.) Or, as cmstlist said, you can reflash the entire system image.
[Nexus 4 General] efrant:
I've attached the stock JOP40C build.prop file for those who are too lazy busy to extract it themselves. :)
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
Makes sense why it stopped sticking for me as well and worked for others (I'm on rogers too)
[Nexus 4 General] rageguy:
Thanks. Confirmed to work over here. I changed build.prop for the LTE and this caused OTA updates to fail every time. Removing what I changed with a text editor did not fix as the signature must be different.

Simply deleted the existing build.prop and used this one attached. Works like a charm. No more changing build.prop for me.
[Nexus 4 General] efrant:
There's nothing wrong with changing files -- I encourage it, as you get to learn a bit more about your device Just make a backup of them BEFORE you change them so it will be easy for you to restore the original in case you need to. Too easy.
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
Since Metro PCS has AWS LTE, has anyone tried putting a LTE Metro PCS SIM card on the Nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] funkadunk:
you guys are awesome. hopefully sprint gets its act together and releases a CDMA version 6 months after like they have for the previous samsung nexus devices. if they dont...well...i might just have to jump ship to a GSM carrier. :D

what i dont get is, why can apple get updates to all its phones on the same day, on CDMA and GSM, but google can't? why do they have to wait for sprint and verizon to test it?
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
Apple is big enough to do something like that. If Sprint doesn't comply with Apple then Apple will just stop making iPhones for Sprint and thus Sprint will lose customers. Google doesn't have that power over most carriers yet (although it might happen eventually). The way Sprint thinks about the whole thing is that Android is a niche market. T Mobile on the other hand seems to embrace the Android phones from the very start with the G1.N1.G2, and now an unlocked N4. The only thing that I've seen is that in some unboxings T-Mobile removed the AC/USB cable from the Nexus 4s, but apart from that the phone is stock!
[Nexus 4 General] dnlsmy:
I can pick up MetroPCS's LTE on my T-Mobile Nexus 4, but I don't have a SIM to test their speeds and compatibility. I've heard the speeds suck though, much less than regular 3G.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
It will start picking up. The merge is slowly moving along for both. T-Mobile is still the tits. :D
[Nexus 4 General] mzanette:
My new lte sim card arrived and I tried this. Google now seems to work fine for me as well.
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
It might be the phones themselves, that they limit their LTE speed capabilities. If that's the case, and the Nexus 4 gets amazing LTE speeds, then i might have to get 2 Nexus 4's, and carry one with Metro SIM, and another which just a prepaid voice and text SIM
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I bet anything there will be updates to disable this due to FCC regs.. be careful when you update.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my back ordered Nexus 4-hoping for it today or tomorrow!!
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
There's a rumor that next update will patch LTE, but we already have the old firmware so it won't really matter, we'll just flash the old one and get LTE back
[Nexus 4 General] lafrad:
Its not a huge expense to get the device registered with the FCC for LTE... its the same frequency bands/transmit powers/etc... just a different OTA protocol. should be a simple amendment to their listing... and I would assume they would rather do that than piss a bunch of their biggest fans off...

Glad to see that it can hit up MetroPCS Already. One less step when TMo gets this merger complete!
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
Google Now STILL doesn't work for me with LTE enabled (Rogers)

The issue causing this is that the N4 is unable to get location data from the cell towers. Turning off GPS (and wifi) and using the Maps application will make you unable to find your location.

Anyone who claims it is working try this for me: go to your phone app and type *#*#INFO#*#* and go to Phone Info. Under Location you should see LAC = xxxxx. For me on LTE it says unknown and on HSPA it says something.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
Which brings us to the question, why google did pay to remove the LTE features which were present on the LG Optimus G used as a foundation for N4. You know, such redesign costs time and thus - money. If you look at the N4 PCB, you will see a bunch of blank space. I would be willing to bet, that OptimusG PCB is almost identical just with most blank spaces filled with LTE components. Would be much easier to take the existing OptimusG PCB which was already finished, tested and so on. They maybe could even share most of FCC tests.

I would bet LG was insisting on "product differentiation" to protect their OptimusG. That Band4 is just an accident, since Qualcomm seems to sell their S4Pro bundled with LTE capable transceiver, so LG/Google was stuck with decision to either put that "overkill" chip they already have anyway or pay some extra money for another less capable chips.

Since there is not much they save by excluding the rest of LTE components, I would say that was a forced decision, someone is interested in N4 not having LTE. That "someone" can be only LG. Which means, it can be made sure it won't work in future hardware revisions.

Otherwise why all this drama with disabling of LTE? Just to enable it again down the road? Would be very childish. Companies usually don't act as children.
[Nexus 4 General] cdordon:
See: Apple

Lol
[Nexus 4 General] kanetheninja:
I assume they don't have LTE because of the stated reasons they don't do LTE, mainly they wanted to do a single unlocked world phone. The US CDMA carriers won't allow the unlocked phone on there networks, so those are out the window as far as they go. I guess they could have done LTE for ATT though...

There are also complicated issues that you get into with support and such. I presume that if google included official LTE support even for just the canadian carriers, which is there now, the hardware cost from LG would go up due to the increased support costs.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
What is childish about apple?
[Nexus 4 General] kanetheninja:
"You're holding it wrong"
[Nexus 4 General] a1jatt:
Yeah, what is childish about apple other than the name "apple"?
[Nexus 4 General] mikecousins:
Set it to LTE/GSM/CDMA and it will work fine.
[Nexus 4 General] cdordon:
Well, the lawsuits against everybody for one thing. The blocking of sales of certain phones in certain countries because of said lawsuits. They're okay with competition, as long as there is none.
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
Makes no difference here