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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SA-07:
What?

You can use trickster mod, which is available in the market. Every kernel doesn't have to have its own app, and this isn't the i9000 either.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Trickster+Matrix is fine, all I need you can set with Trikster.

All settings works without any problem

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zedbg:
Feel free to use TricksterMOD - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5iaWdleWVzMHgwLnRyaWNrc3Rlcm1vZCJd
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Nominal, but Im stable all day at 750@384.... I would assume 192 would need a lot less, but I dont care. Extreme UV's dont help after a point. 750 is no different that 700 for heat.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I don't know. I still can't work out how the phone works at a frequency as low as 192! Lol.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
angela kernel goes down to 50 mhz i think
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Im running 4 core min/max 192/1026 and its buttery.

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It claims to, no way its real.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
it does, but its not really 50mhz. its faked at 50mhz, its actually higher.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Mathkid is magic ;)....

No srsly

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] michelD:
675 forme me. Fast binned. Rock stable.

Thanks for this kernel quite now for me (comming from Trinity, but same performance and much better battery life with this Matrix kernel )

Edit

: 650mV @192MHz !! Perfectly stable !!.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] QUIETLYloud:
how're those settings working with battery life compared to default settings?

I'm experimenting running 2 cores, default min/max
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Always better than default for every kernel I've tried.... It's the Simms special ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JamesInsights:
I have to go slightly above 700 for 192. It works at 700 but when playing audio i can hear static and crackling that randomly comes on so I have trickster set to a little bit above 700

EDIT: Nominal binned cpu, static happens more often on youtube videos.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
What's the colors default guys? (want to set on Trickster)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yethz:
I thought default colors are loaded automatically, which is coded in kernel, as well as cpu/gpu governors?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ian577416:
Freeze/Reboot on latest build

Had a random reboot following a text message. I'll post the kmsg here. Read ahead was 2048, min/max 192-1512, scheduler was fiops governor was wheatley everything was UV'd another 25% sans 192 which was at 712500

http://d-h.st/vbP <<<<<<kmsg>>>>>>
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bigmase521:
This is correct. Trickster also has some presets built in, or you can adjust manually to your liking.

UV might be a little too high for 192 on your chip. Try bumping it up a step. I have a nominal chip and was running 192 @ 725 but I had 2 random reboots, and the weird camera pictures thing. I bumped up to 737500 and it's been rock solid stable ever since.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
I can UV the best and rock stable with this kernel. On my faster binned chip I am running -50mV globally (192MHz @675MHz) rock stable. CPU temps are 2-3c lower than other kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Not really, theres no presets for mako like iy were for gnex, just some gama preset changes with LG, Google...I was playing aroind with values and I have set on boot because of my voltages, dont want to loose them. So I need matr1x default in order to input manually
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cantevencode:
I've literally just flashed it so these are the defaults
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
THanks mate, that's what I was looking for :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] luke05dee:
Hi, has anyone else had to bump up there voltages a little in the latest release. I have ran at the voltages I was running since the first kernel with a UV interface came out and if I switch back to 8.0 or another kernel I can use my previous voltages. But on 8.5 I get the camera problem and then reboots after a minute with my normal voltages and raising my voltages globally has solved the problem. Has anyone else noticed the same, to test I've flashed trinity kernel and v8 and my old voltages worked perfect. Could this be why some people have been reporting a bit of instability? Just a thought :)

I'm running 192mhz at 637.5mv without problems, on v8 I had 288mhz at 637.5mv since it was introduced. I have a faster binned chip :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cheech87:
I can attest to this too. nominal chip uv'ing an extra -75 mv on v8, had to dial back to -50 (didn;t test -62.5) on v8.5 w/ the 192 step @ -25 (testing -50 now).

On an unrelated note, the screen on delay that I and some other (aokp) users seemed to have is completely gone when using the wheatly gov.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SA-07:
This is good, everyone keep testing voltages and once you guys agree on values, I'll change them.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
192 should stay at 725. I think you should leave a bit of room for people to tweak to their liking.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JamesInsights:
+1.

Also is battery supposed to drain very fast when im in a area with bad signal? Even with the screen off.

I also have a problem with my device getting hot. Is UVed to 712 for 192 mhz but battery still hits 40 degrees.. Is that normal?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
192@750 and 1512@1050 is rock solid for me. Anything lower is a no go.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
192@700

1512@1025

Fast cpu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SIGUEL:
-37.5mV Global (687.5uv@192 - 962.5uv@1.35) Rock Solid.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] michelD:
This is what I achieved perfectly stable.

Fast binned chip.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Says it all!!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
what rom are you using ? rbj?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ian577416:
Anybody have a mirror for v8.5 gpuoc? The mediafire link fails on both laptop and mobile.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
https://mega.co.nz/#!ysQg1CrB!Wnng0kEUsYsq3kFNEIOTx39AAtaw7pkKgXGkWTNylDk

Friends..? :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Use stock browser. Chrome borks it.

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Carbon.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ian577416:
This is with stock browser.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
Idk if anyone has noticed, but when I lower my voltage...my phone seems a tad slower. Everything is stable, but xda on tapatalk doesn't load up as fast. I tested this a few times and can noticed a huge difference. The loading circle is literally cut in half the time. Can anyone else confirm this? Just bump up the voltage a little bit or leave it at the settings it came with and try it out.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ian577416:
For people having issues downloading with mobile I found a quick solution. Open terminal CD to your sdcard then type "wget http://205.196.121.94/f2e503es7c3g/o9n90q488480i39/Matr1x-cfs_v8.5-gpuoc.zip" that'll download it to your sdcard. you can also use the wget command for just about anything as long as you have the full URL.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Still the smoothest and best battery I've seen on the n4.... I've been a kernel whore but will admit this has always been the best for me

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chappy824:
All N4's respond differently.... Tweak it to your liking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cantevencode:
Does anyone get a random reboot, then lots more reboots straight after?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cyanogendroid:
100mv UV is rock steady for me with a fast bin chip, loving the battery. I don't know why but I can UV more by about 25mv on this kernel vs faux, math kid you are THE MAN.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] njeske:
Been running CM 10.1 M3 with this kernel for over 24 hours. No random reboots, or anything else to speak of. It's been rock solid.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Don't under volt.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cantevencode:
I'm not undervolting any more than this kernel starts with. I tried upping the voltage but the phone just seemed to heat up like mad
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Question question . does faux display work with this kernel ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cowst:
I think you missed his point.

He noticed a correlation between undervolt and speed rather than just the usual instability and reboots.

I think somebody already mentioned that there is more to it than just CPU, so if you undervolt, other stuff might pay the price (camera, GPU, ... ?), and only in particular conditions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aetos7:
Yes, matr1x kernel has Gamma Control Interface of faux kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] grisha1:
Is the consensus to use weatley?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JmPTaz09:
Wheatley seems to be running super smooth for me so far and Ezekeel who wrote it, is a pretty smart cookie when it comes to this stuff, so give it a try and see for yourself! :beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
Guys apart from trickster mod any other app you guys recommend? Trickster mod does seem to stick after one reboot but after another reboot it goes back to default
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cdx47:
A fellow brit complained of jumpy scroll and I did see that in the beginning but it seems to have settled down now. I am not sure the battery life is any better though!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
ok I've done some googling and haven't found any understandable answers. would someone explain what these are:

allowed_misses

ignore_nice_load

io_is_busy

powersave_bias

sampling_down_factor

target_residency

Up_threshold

thanks in advance!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gagdude:
You have to enable set on boot :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cheech87:
allowed misses and target residency are explained here (link from OP): http://www.alliance-rom.com/community/wiki/governors-explained/

all other fields are inherited from ondemand.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
Thank you Sparky for your smart input. Already did that and one reboot works and the next does not. So do you recommend any other app? From your post and your roll eyes I think not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] QUIETLYloud:
I had a similar problem and found that greenify was disabling trickster... also, you may have to set it to delay in boot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rizocreations:
man this kernel is the bomb. should be default kernel.

running great. undervolted to 700 at min 192 and wheatley

quick noob questions: whats wheatley and hows its different

and i see people saying they have a faster binned chip..how do you find out what you have?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cyanogendroid:
Sorry I forget the exact location but there's a thread on how to find out what bin you have. It's really easy you just run a command in terminal emulator right after you boot and it tells you. Google "nexus 4 how to find out kernel bin" and you should find it easily.

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I also would like to hear about Wheatley

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
read this

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14685-ke...or-jb-422/page__st__90__p__405813#entry405813

and
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gagdude:
Your sarcasm was uncalled for, and rather rude. My rollseyes was by no means an attack on you. I used it in a joking manner. How was I supposed to know you enabled it? All you said was that setting weren't sticking.

And if you really want to use a different one try Fauxclock
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tanmay.01:
Flashed matrix CFS on xylon ROM . I lost root. Any help here..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yethz:
Try flashing supersu...

=[ Nexus 4 is all that I need ]=
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Flash cm version
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I had root issues with Xylon yesterday. It didnt matter what custom kernel I flashed. What I had to do was download the Play Store version of Superuser and let it install the bianaries, then I froze the built in superuser and rebooted. All was fine after that. The issue is the way they build superuser in.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tanmay.01:
Flashed su again
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
well if you picked a different smiley and not the one that actually made your post look like a sarcastic one i would not have said what i had said. so anyway if my post to you was rude i do apologize but for you next time i would be careful what smiley i pick so you do not get from someone else similar response like my one and people take it the wrong way...

now let us move on from this and not derail this thread off topic...and again apologies:)

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guys i have a question and apologies if this has already been asked...mpdecision...would that harm or do more good:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] QUIETLYloud:
I'm pretty sure it's completely removed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
The features in the first post say:

mpdecision is Qualcomm's proprietary, closed source, core hot plugging algorithm, but Matr1x does its own thing:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] damngood98:
been away from xylon for a while but last time i used it, it wasn't based off of cm but aokp. this wouldn't work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
On aokp, if you flashed matrix; root would be lost. Flashing the cm version was a fix and it worked fine. Thought it would apply here too
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] michelD:
Indeed Wheatley is a very good governor. Smooth and battery friendly.

For those looking for further battery saving, I recommand to change powersave_bias to 500 (default=0)

It reduce power consumption while preserving smoothness (at least for my and my usage).

Enjoy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I'm having a problem. When I'm finished on a call I can't hang up straight away as the screen stays black and takes about 5 seconds to come on and then sometimes once I've hung up the phone reboots. Anyone else can confirm?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Happened to me when I first flashed 8.5 and didn't always happen on every call. So I re downloaded then flashed 8.5 and its never happened again.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chappy824:
I haven't had that happen. Maybe your settings are too extreme? Raise voltages?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
OK well, I'm in the process of getting the latest carbon nightly so will flash again and test it out. Thanks peeps.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Hopefully all works out. Ahh the joys of modding :D:thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] xj220gt:
Yeah. I actually had that happen to me today on one call. The phone rebooted after the person hung up. Not sure if it will persist... But I hardly make calls anyway
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chappy824:
I'm on liquidsmooth rom without any issues. Best combo for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jake:
experiencing none of the above issues. I do not believe these particular issues are apecificially related to the kernel code itself.

getting ready to post a daily build and update the LiquidSmooth Official OP, w3wt w00t.

you ain't heard it from me. :)

also, pssst... we might also have another official release currently in the works too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Well I don't know either way but I've changed nothing rom wise. When I had it happen it was after I flashed 8.5 and like I said it disappeared after reflashing 8.5 again. Just cause u don't experience something doesn't mean it isn't related to the kernel. I think this kernel is perfect and for me it seemed to be a bad flash which caused it.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jake:
just saying, though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] olygopoly:
Actually what the diff with CFS & gpuoc ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
One is stock gpu, other is overclocked
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I just flashed latest Carbon, re-downloaded 8.5 and flashed away. Will see if it happens again when I actually get round to using the phone aspect of my phone lol.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Lol right...

I think I maybe make 7-10 calls a week :p

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You may be right. :D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jake:
Lolz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
I got a couple of random reboots today while the phone was not even being used, screen off. I just use the default voltages of this kernel, 192/1026 min/max freq, 4 cores online all the time. No other changes from defaults.

It could be that 192@725mV is a no-go for my chip, even though it's the "Fast" bin.

I also read that Qualcomm says the minimum frequency for this processor should be 384 otherwise it can be unstable. Any reason why custom kernels set a lower frequency as a default when the manufacturer specifies a certain minimum? It's fine to support setting a lower frequency but as a default I think the manufacturer numbers should be used or unsuspecting users can get in trouble.

Perhaps the same should apply to undervolting, the kernel default should be the stock values. It seems that people who undervolt try to push even more from the kernel defaults anyway so they would have to change the numbers.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] BxingFetus:
I've had this kernel on my phone for a few days now and quite like it. I have have no reboots because of the low frequency. My phone also happens to be a slow binned chip. I have also tried faux' tbu kernel and would just bootloop, phone doesn't like super high frequencies. The 1.8ghz kernel runs good though. Sorry for my pop in and outs on xda here, short attention span.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] phidung3721:
If you want stock then use stock I believe faux and hash both have stock kernels with custom governors. The reason min freq as low as 192 is to save battery when the phone is in idle. I lose 1% over night on 192 and 3-5% when I was on 384. I have been using bricked kernel with 192 min and it was rock stable. Just saying.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sirxdroid:
Thanks. I was just asking, trying to understand as I'm late to the custom kernel party ...

I found where I read it, in the Faux kernel FAQ:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34502852&postcount=4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cantevencode:
I also have a fast binned CPU that doesn't seem to like undervolting. These settings seem stable to me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JamesInsights:
Anyone here has stuck to ondemand instead of wheatley? If so, why?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
I've been watching you guys try to UV as much as possible for a while. Just wanted to share my opinion. From my experience, UV of - 150mV or - 100mV doesn't make any difference. So do yourself a favour guys, don't try to UV like mad at the expense of bad crashes (UV crashes are one of the most dangerous). - 100mV /-125mV should be just as good as - 175mV depending on the chip.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] phidung3721:
:) that's why I don't undervolt too much anymore. I underclock my n4 instead. i put max freq as 1026 and min as 192 and spread on 4 cores.

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Im sorry if I sounded like a **** earlier I didn't intent to. And you were right there are a risk of crashing when you undervolt or lower min frequency. But didnt google and other phone makers tell us that rooting is dangerous that we shouldnt root our phones. but we do it anyway because it enhances our phone usage in many ways. Same for undervolting and underclocking, we're experimenting on our phones to push it to its own limit. thats what we are here for at the first place. we do it cause it saves battery life.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
UV battery savings by themselves are negligible. It's that UV keeps phone cooler that is saving battery. No hard data, just my experience from monitoring for months.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vBB:
Is there anybody who like me has terrible lag on the lockscreen after unlocking phone from deep sleep? That kernel is awesome - first of all it has great battery life and good performance, but I have that issue since I've first tried it on the 7.0 version... I've been writting about it many posts ago, but nothing changed for me since than. It doesn't matter which rom (now I'm on stock) I am using, the lag is still here. I've been trying to increase voltages and minimum frequency but nothing helped...

I don't have lag with stock kernel or any other kernel (faux, franco etc.).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bjajjull:
Try interactive instead of ondemand.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vBB:
Nothing changed...

EDIT: Interactive + changing min freq to 1026 Mhz like on the stock and it looks like lag is gone! :) But I'm still testing.

How that combination could affect battery life?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Aetos7:
Don't change min freq to 1026 Mhz, if no you've a big battery drain.. but just enable mpdecision (on stock the min freq is 384 Mhz with mpdecision enabled, and the mpdecision responsible that shows 1026mhz instead of 384 mhz, but the really freq is 384 Mhz.)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AsesinoQc:
Massive battery drain when screen on