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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yethz:
Flashed 8.5. Starting observation mode heheh..

As always, I have no problems with old touch driver which is a big yes to me after reboot.

Lag? None experienced. No UV/UC all stock.

Using Trickster only colors are changed on my part.

Now, gonna test the battery life.

Thank u very much Mathkid for another daily driver kernel... So awesome.

Im using LiquidSmooth 2.1 Stable ROM by the way.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sully6789:
No lag on 8.5 using Wheatley with 2 cores max online at 192-1512. Running E.L.E ROM too BTW, if it matters.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
Thanks. That solved the problem. I was using fauxdisplay and it was a no go. Trickster works like a charm.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] NoLunchBox_:
Just flashed LiquidSmooth and v8.5 and so far, no lag for me. Latest version seems a lot more buttery and more smooth.

Nice :good: :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yea mathkid everything issue working flawlessly. Now just cant wait to see if getting to use Wheatley and the lower min will add to battery. Thanks bro :D:thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Devildog78965:
How exactly do you enable the eco mode for 2 cores also thanks for the awesome kernel

sent from my Nexus 4 in Equestria

Click it I dare you?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GiantFurby:
How to I change the settings to turn off cores?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yethz:
Choose wheatley governor from trickster apply it and then hotplug control from their u can set how many cores u want 4, 3, 2 or 1 ;)

I think that was it..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gagdude:
Sorry for OT, but what theme is that?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yethz:
:D it is bluemint v7....

Edit: and LiquidSmooth ROM feature called Dark Liquid = U cannot see any whites from the whole UI.. So cool..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Devildog78965:
Thanks

sent from my Nexus 4 in Equestria

Click it I dare you?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rootuser11:
For me using two cpu instead of four does not save battery much. In fact almost negligible. I suspect that it is because the vast majority of the battery consumption comes from the screen... so i wonder if it is feasible to lower the voltages for the screen to save some juice.

By the way 8.5 is great!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ArthurMickey:
Trying 8.5v..using 3 core..Thanks for awesome kernel matkid..!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vladivid:
+1 :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Can't UV with v8.5, same ROM same settings.

In general don't feel performance improvement like from v7.5 to v8, will continue testing :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] QUIETLYloud:
had a "kernel panic" while exploring carbon 1.6 settings

http://db.tt/DGfJ9H6p

would have pasted here but log is long and I'm not sure of what you may need
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mark_d87:
2 easy questions

Hi everybody!!

excited for the new version^^ but i've to ask a couple of things for sure :D

with the 8.5 "in average" the battery life is similar or better than v7 /7.5 ??

can i use fauxcontrol instead of trickster? i dont like the UI of it xD

aaand last ;) touchcontrol on latest version is disabled?

bye guyz! thanks everyone and specially to our great Mathkid95 !!!!! :good::good::good: keep it up mate!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 19deimon90:
Touchcontrol works :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] evie12604:
Surely too soon to comment on average battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vasumit:
Trying this kernel for the first time and boy I am impressed. its working slick with self build PA. thanks dev.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] brian88:
Excuse me, which one I should choose for the best battery and good performance ? Wheatley, interactive or ondemand? Thanks. I dont know what wheatley governor
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Just run it at defaults. The devs usually know whats best.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
You are mistaken. Screen doesn't consume as much as you think. Try reading ebook for example, I got 9h+ sot when doing it. Thing is, cpu2 and 3 rarely kick in, so by disabling them you are not going to be seeing a lot of difference since they don't use that much battery to start with. Eco mode is pointless imho.

No no no, I'm not a grammar Nazi. I'm a grammar Commie!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goog1e Phone:
I tried 8.5 and it ran great. Hard to tell on battery since it was just released last night. But I did go back to 8.0 since I felt it was a little faster.

When I was running 8.5, I ran it on on-demand. Never tried wheatley.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jake:
tis too early for you to be concerned with average battery life. give it.couple days. *spoiler * battery life = improved over v8.0, thus it is excellent.

re speed...

at first I thought you were joking. :)

nevertheless..

v8.5 is snappy / responsive - even undervolted (see change log for further details).

currently, I am running v8.5 over a liquidsmooth build & it is pure butter.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mark_d87:
thx man :) yep I know I need to wait a couple days.. i wanted to know exactly that (after v8 improved battery life) I just explained not in the best way ;) then I'll give it surely a try.. still thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Steven08:
confused

can somebedy tell me what version to download?i am a little confused.i can't find 8.5 version.i'm running carbon 1.6.thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Link for 8.5 is in the temporary download area of the OP.... http://goo.gl/SCEms
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Phone running so smooth I almost forgot I updated to 8.5. Much thanks 4 weatley. I always found good battery savings with that 4 my screen off profile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rootuser11:
I was not with you until you point out that cpu2 and 3 rarely kick in in normal usage. That's true. That explains why I was not seeing much of a difference.

Can I assume then that there will be some battery saving when I play game?

I just don't understand why N4 is much poor in terms of battery usage compare to HTC ONE.

Matr1x is the only one that balances performance + battery well for my N4 so far.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Steven08:
wow

i have to say that this kernel it's fantastic.the phone it's very fast.i'm on carbon 1.6 and matr1x 8.5,.wheatley governor,default cpu freq.can somebody tell me about battery life?is it also that good?anyway,amazing kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
With gaming GPU takes a lot of stress, so no, you are unlikely to see much savings there either.

No no no, I'm not a grammar Nazi. I'm a grammar Commie!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rootuser11:
darn it. i now see no point of eco mode!

then is N4 just bad compare to HTC ONE? some circuit board secrets?

(i will never buy HTC one so no diss)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Its next gen hardware is all. 1080p, new snapdragon.....oh, and a god aweful UI :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Swanseatom:
Can't Download v8.5!

Any alternate links other than OP?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
How about.. "Hmmmm, someone probably asked that already, lets read last few pages... Oh, nice it's only few posts up!"

No no no, I'm not a grammar Nazi. I'm a grammar Commie!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] florichelle:
Which version do I have to flash if I'm on PAC ROM? CM or AOSP?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Aosp

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yethz:
Read your ROMS OP, it is posted where it was based, either aosp or cm..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] estallings15:
Yes. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SWOLEGASM:
I'm on PAC and this was the first thing i looked for. It's not listed in the op for PAC what the actual ROM is based on.

---------- Post added at 07:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:10 PM ----------

Thanks, Can you confirm with a source? I'm getting conflicting info from the PAC thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I've never seen an all in one not based on aosp, but it looks like the real pacman rom uses a modified cm kernel so not actually sure. You won't break anything by trying. Download then both, flash, and if it boots, great... If not, flash the other. Or contact the Dev direct.

Sent from my blazing bionic Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
The media fire link fire 8.5 only downloads 49 kb. Can anyone help? I checked several pages back but didn't see anything. Thanks much. And thank you mathkid!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
works fine for me. it's about 6.5 mb
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mark_d87:
screw all the doubt xD right flashed and it feels daaaamn smooth and reactive.. thank you dev!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rizy7:
Would like to say thanks for the kernel! Flashed the new official liquidsmooth release which uses this kernel. Getting incredible battery life on default settings. 3 hours 45 mins screen on time with overall over 2 days and 7 hours battery time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ian577416:
Decided to poke my head in the thread. My obvious lack of popularity aside I wanted to take this opportunity to make a public apology to anyone I have offended in this thread. My attitude of superiority and condescending tone was totally out of line and for that I apologize. Secondly I wanted to let the developer know that this particular release is stunning. Not that your previous versions weren't good, this one just plain blows the previous releases out of the water. Keep up the good work man!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
Wow. You are a MAN. I like it. Thank you.

OT, Matr1x and Franco are two most popular kernels on 4pda (Russian forums, with some wares but many legit info for Russian speaking people). Came across it while looking for some info on hsic(wouldn't look at it normally as they get their info from xda anyway, but as I'm Russian speaking something caught my eye) . Enjoy. ;)

No no no, I'm not a grammar Nazi. I'm a grammar Commie!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bigmase521:
I'm running PAC as well, you'll need to flash the CM version. The AOSP version will bootloop.

Thanks Mathkid for yet another amazing kernel. Running great with Wheatley and 192. Will report back on battery in a few days.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LOVE ME PLEASE:
Good GOD man...this kernel is from outer space and on steroids. Thank you sir!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jejecule:
Amazing deep sleep

Hello,

The last version is simply perfect to me, battery's best friend and amazing deep sleep, not at single % lost in 9h:good:

Many thanks and congrats to the dev!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
What settings?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jejecule:
Hi,

CPU min 192

CPU max 1026

Wheatley

Hotplug: 3 core max online

no other changes

Cheers
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
Just run a stability test (3DMark) for my UV settings with v8.5, running Wheatley/Fiops at default CPU/Hotplug settings. Same ROM CM10.1 Linaro build by trailblazer.

11594 Matrix v8.5

11440 Air r3 default settings

11125 Franco r121 default settings

Matrix feels smoother than all three of above with the same ROM. Yet to find out about battery life.

Thanks dev for your hard work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SIGUEL:
The standby time of this kernel is simply perfect, not a single % lost in 3 hours of deep sleep.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
What's the best app to change settings on this kernel? TKT, FauxClock or Franco app?

Also, what version to use with Carbon ROM? It says AOSP in the title but then says they use CM's device trees and code.

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JamesInsights:
Hi guys what does everyone think of the wheatly governer currently compared to ondemand i had always used ondemand. Upon switching to wheatley i didnt notice much except my device got hotter easily. Mot sure why what does everyone else think of wheatley

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stef@67:
I would recommend you Trickster Mod... ;)

EDIT: answer to benrees21...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Nice kernel!!!! Carbon uses the AOSP version if anyone wants to know! How do you get the min frequency down so low without reboots??? Crazy minimum Lol.

What is battery life extender in Trickster Mod app???

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Good question, mine rebooted like crazy at 192.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Whatis your CPU binned at? Mine is nominal and no reboots as of yet.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
v8.5 running rock stable with another -25mV UV with 192/1512MHz Wheatley/Fiops on my faster binned chip.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tylog:
No reboots here after 3 hours usage with 192

Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Steven08:
battery life

what would it be better to improve my battery life?min 1 core or 4?with 1 core the load is most of the time maximum,1512,with 4 cores online,rarely goes over 1026.and what governor should i use?wheatley or interactive?thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Cool, finally managed to UV a little (altough I went further with v8)

Phone is so smooth, did a little bench too, matr1x is still the king (little UV, dailydriver settings)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jamesc760:
Having tried just about every other kernel available for n4, I must say that Matrix kernel is the best kernel FOR ME.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I set mine to 288. I don't trust my phone not to reboot on 192. Anyone else's phone get quite warm during normal usage? What is battery life extender in trickster mod app?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Mine too....I had 192@ 725, not very low as I usually have 384@750. Im not sure what it booted at but I think it was around 750@192 so very little difference. Ive never ever had an issue with Matr1x till this one so I assume it is the new frequency.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] razerblade17:
just a simple question, if im using xylon rom, which version should i download? cm based? or else?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
Xylon is cm based.

No no no, I'm not a grammar Nazi. I'm a grammar Commie!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] razerblade17:
thanks for quick reply :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SA-07:
I tried to find a voltage at 192 that has a nice balance between all the chips. If you guys can agree on a certain voltage for 192 where everyone is satisfied, I'll change it to that in the next release.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rootuser11:
<3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpanos:
It allows you to set the max percentage of charging. Theoretically, batteries last longer if they don't charge up to full all the time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrdr0idqed2020:
I use trickster mod. Seems to cover all bases
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
tried using it but does not seem to want to stick after reboot..cleared cache and data but still does not work..uninstalled and reinstalled and still no joy..

tried using fauxclock and max frequency always jumps back up to 1.5Ghz..any ideas?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] EnIXmA:
I am getting awesome battery life with aokp and v2.0. 1 day standby with 3 hours of screen on. Half of the day on wifi, half on h+
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceroglu:
Ok, I have been using since last night. It is super fast and smooth, but my battery seems to be doing bad. I am in 9hr since I unplugged and I have about 1.30 min of screen time and I am down to 30%. It looks like Android System and Android OS have used more than half of the battery power. Is there any specific reason for this? Also looks like the sleep time for CP0 is about 50%, which seems to be a little high. I know some of you have been talking about the GPS toggle, I dont have GPS toggle on my stock 4.2.1 ? I didnt even know if there was a GPS toggle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SleemLDJ:
Hi ther guys.

Customs roms as for now seem to be too early for me so I have decided to go back to GoogleFactory roms for a while just so that the likes of AOKP and CM10 can mature well.

I also plan to root this rom so question is.

Will i be able to flash this kernel on the Google Factory rom after rooting?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
The ota update checks to see if everything that is supposed to be in / system is there and untouched. Not if the /system partition has anything added to it.

You can open up the ota and look at the script and see everything it looks for.

Its doesn't perform an action like a md5 check on /system or even recovery for that matter.

You can also manually flash a ota with a custom recovery as well on a stock ROM with no issues. Not sure if it can do it automatically like a ota on a 100 percent stock set up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Locksmith81:
Absolutely just use at AOSP version
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SleemLDJ:
awesome..

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
Wow it takes a long time for thermal throttling to start now ...Stock it took less than 20 seconds before thermal throttling kicked in. Now it took me 2:22 before throttling
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] barondebxl:
Lol how you know? I love it!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Locksmith81:
How can thou tell if your phone is being thermal throttled?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] keda:
Thanks for that information. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blabla189:
If im coming from AOKP Rom. Can i install the cm Version of this Kernel?

Edit: Got it! AOKP = Normal Version

:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
Run 'stability test' and monitor your CPU speed with 'system tuner' app. You will see the throttle kick in when your speeds go from 1.5 GHz to 1.2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mikeyinid:
Not true
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
How so?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mikeyinid:
Mathkid said so. Lol. Do you have a link from someone reputable to back that claim up? My not so expert opinion tells me that the freq has little or nothing to do with this "thermal throttling" everyone is talking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n82k:
What is you non-expert opinion on what exactly would have been throttled if it is not affecting freq? That is only a semi-serious question but would like to hear "your" answer.

Sent from Nexus 4 - cm10 -
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mikeyinid:
I personally think the thermal throttling is bs. My opinion. I havent seen any of the devs speak on it. It all started as an excuse for why the droid DNA scores higher in benchmarks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n82k:
I mostly agree. The reason for my asking was as much to get an opinion. I personally think that something in 4.2 is fkn with battery tests/stats and benchmarks, and that /any of/ cannot be trusted on 4.2. No other reason for everyone to get such drastically different results from the same machine. So as of now IMHO benchmarking the n4 is pointless more so than previous...any phone

Sent from Nexus 4 - cm10 -
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zimphishmonger:
Also curious, besides manually watching the current state of cpu

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mikeyinid:
Exactly. And the thermal issue people talk about is unfounded and unproven. My phone has never been warm to the touch except when I charge it on my wireless mats. My benchmarks are very consistent to the kernel I'm using.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cantevencode:
I know it's always the stock response but did you definitely check the set on boot option?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
yes i have:( the only time i get trickster mod to work is if i set everything up with a different app like faux and then uninstall faux....but that is kinda pointless if you ask me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cantevencode:
Fresh out of ideas then. I'm not very good at this troubleshooting business
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bige93:
Searched this thread through, but still can't understand. Does FauxSound mod works with hearphones or loudspeaker only? How can I enable it? Or is it enabled by default?

Thnx for answers!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
its ok i managed to get it working now my friend:) thank you for trying anyway

should work with both...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
First, make sure Trickster is the only cpu app you are using. Stop or disable all others including the built in ones if any. Then set up Trickster to your liking, select set on boot and notification and reboot. Other apps really mess with Tricksters functionality. I had the same issue and it was other apps running.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tuilalnvinh:
Interactive gov is smoother than Wheatley when scrolling (I tested scrolling in System Panel app)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I'm using 192 as minimum now and it works great! Can't believe the phone stays on that low!!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
It doesn't change the percentage of charging, Google wants it to stay 96~97% on the Nexus phones.

Waht it does is to show "fake" percentage of 100%, when it really is 96% real. This mod has been around since Nexus S.

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Interactive is snapier, but I prefer OnDemand because is as smooth as interactive and it uses less battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
How you put up the headphone boost??

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
Just use faux sound. Put it on loudness and enjoy the eargasm
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Thanks, bought it.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gianton:
I've set mine at 700mV and is rock stable, faster binned chip.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Mine is at the default 725 and it's fine.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Ok, tried this again and 750 seems stable so far. Not sure why I cant go lower at 192....700 should be stable but oh well, diminishing returns on UV'ing anyway.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jejecule:
+1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I'm on a fast binned chip. What do you have? I'm guessing Nominal?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ian577416:
Same here.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m4r0v3r:
don't know if it's the new frequency step, but my battery life seems to of increased and am getting a solid 4 hours on CM10.1 where before I was stuck on 2.5/3 hours. While stock I always used to get 4/4.5 hours
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jelle2503:
As a day one user of the Nexus, chosen this kernel, but lack a kernel specific app to set all these features.

Guess I'm spoilt with kernel apps, as every i9000 custom kernel has it's own app.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
What's wrong with trickster?