yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] StormShadowBK:
I don´t think Thantos needs to worry. I´m experiencing the same, but on CM10.1, so I would say it´s NOT ROM-related.
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
With regards to people feeling that somethings can become a little laggy, I am altering the memory management for 1.2 so hopefully things will be a little smoother.

The one thing I am still thinking about at the moment is how many apps to allow to stay open in the background. Although it is handy to be able to jump through different apps and have them stay open so that you can jump back in and carry straight on from where you where, I have noticed that in roms that allow a large number of apps to stay open in memory, you very quickly run into issues of lag and random app crashes.

However, like the screen brightness values, what is a good value seems to be very subjective, everyone has a different opinion on the subject, so, I think that what I will do is test a large number of values, giving each at least a couple of days heavy usage, then take which ever set of values I feel gave the best compromise between multitasking and performance, and then take time to tweak those values to get things as optimized as possible.

To help with this, I could really do with a large number of users posting up a list of heavy duty apps that they use regularly that they would like to be able to keep alive in the background. I will then compile a list of apps that are common among users from that and attempt to adjust the memory values to accordingly.
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
Battery widget reborn, Battery Guru, Tapatalk, Chrome, Google Plus. I hope, this helps.
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
Chrome/Opera Mobile, Google Drive, Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Gmail, Google Maps, iGo Primo(yeah).

Theese are the ones I am using and seems RAM heavy, occasionally more then one at the same time. :)
[HTC Desire S] niravnn:
I use stock browser,whats app,facebook,facebook messenger,gmail,power amp player,instagram,Twitter,flipboard and other couple of app regularly.

Right now I'm using sense 4.1 svhd Rom. In that Rom I'm also able to sync facebook event and birthdays in HTC calender. which I can't do it in your Rom.

So is it possible to sync facebook in your rom's calender?
[HTC Desire S] Librastar:
Suggestion

No offense but after trying every 4.1 Sense Rom I felt that the Sabsa Prime 16 values where the best i have seen, so i would suggest you to check those too... :angel:
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
Hmm, interesting. I do see my contacts birthdays in HTC calendar. Maybe you've forgot to give permission to HTC Sense to collect data from your facebook app(when you first log in, I think the HTC Sense asks for permission).
[HTC Desire S] madboxgr:
You can sync facebook with Desire XS but first you have to manually push the friendstream app to system cause during the installation process theres a script problem and doesnt install it at the right place. After u do that and reboot everything will sync again
[HTC Desire S] 441Excelsior:
is it possible to use friendstream without fb app? on old 2.3.5 it was possible
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
Please add sound enhancers like in RC1 so we can choose beats profiles.

Apps I use daily are stock browser, music, youtube, messages,a few heavy 3d games (CSR racing, Catapult king, Temple run 2...) ,camera,xda...

After I am done with use of an app i wipe them out of memory using app switcher button-I don't use more then 3/4 apps at same time especially when i am playing games and I don't use task killer.

Waiting for next version of best sense 4.1 rom ever.
[HTC Desire S] Tirofog:
For me the launcher occasionally has to reload on exiting Chrome, Facebook and news app The Journal.ie.

Been on XS from the start and just in the last couple of days I've also noticed a slight jerkiness with the home screens and app drawer.
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
Thanks for the replies so far all, please keep them coming, the more responses I get the better picture I get of those apps most commonly used by the majority of users.

As for the sound enhancer, that is planned for 1.3 along with a few other items, I had removed it due to the fact that it wasn't working correctly and was throwing a number of errors up behind the scenes.

With regards to FriendStream without the facebook app, it maybe possible as there is a HTC specific plugin as well as the Facebook app, however I know that there were changes made with regards to authentication that could well mean that the Facebook app has to be installed. I will do some testing and get back to you on that.

I will look to tweaking the brightness values slightly and see what people think about them.
[HTC Desire S] Henf:
hey thantos,

it's really great to hear that you are back on v1.2! i'm really looking forward to it!

i use rarely more than four app at a time. i tried once to get a higher number of open apps using supercharger skript. but the result was that my phone got very laggy. that's why i'd like it to stay the way it is!

i use very often facebook, google maps, google mail, chomp sms, dailyme, runtastic, wideget locker, poweramp and of course xda.

thanks in advance for everything you do to make the best rom for desire s even better!

greetz,

henf
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
The most important thing for me is not the amount of open apps, but the priority for my keyboard app: SwiftKey X.

It skips keys often when typing fast and it seems that programs in the background use valuable resources needed for keyboard. Any ideas on how the world tweak that?
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
Tbh for me the biggest issue is when Sense stops in the background. If i remember right, it is addressed in 1.2, so I'm looking forward to it :)
[HTC Desire S] adrianis:
Noy only browser and widgets, but the entire system here!
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
To me only browser is laggy when swiching tabs or when i tap adress bar. Widgets takes some time to load after holding my finger on the screen. Rest of the rom is quick enough for me.
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
Okay all, I just wanted to let you all know that I am still working away, and have a number of the changes for 1.2 sorted and compiled once more. I have a few more bits to finish tweaking as well as several days of testing to do, but I expect to have 1.2 sorted in the next couple of weeks. (Would be sooner but I just can't spend any great length of time sat at my PC these days.)

1.2 will mark most of the behind the scenes changes to the ROM so while you won't see any massive difference in the look of the ROM, you should notice improvements in the day to day running of it, with apps feeling smoother, more efficient memory management, etc etc, as well as several bug fixes.

As soon as 1.2 is out I will immediately begin work on 1.3 which is where the more visible changes will be taking place with things such as the sound enhancers returning, some major reworking of the camera etc.

After that, it will come down to what ever bugs you have all managed to throw at me.

I want to also Thank you all again for your patience concerning the delays in getting 1.2 out to you all, it has been a while coming now with a couple of missed dates and yet there has been very little in the way of posts asking for eta's and for that I thank you all.

As always I will continue to try and keep you all updated on the progression of the ROM.
[HTC Desire S] dr.sandeep671988:
hey bro nice rom i m using it for last 1 week and have no problem but when i unlock the phone brightness take some time to be normal. why ?
[HTC Desire S] phensta77:
For me as well, significantly.

Recently had tried with wiping Dalvik, not sure though if it helped a lot. Also checked every single app cache, deleted, but to no change.

Needless to say, reboot wont do anything here.
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
For those experiencing system wide slowdowns could they capture a logcat from boot showing a good amount of usage that I can trawl through and see if there is something specific going on.

The best way to do this is to open a command prompt and type

adb logcat -d > logcat.txt

Now with the phone powered off connect it to the PC and then turn it on. Now use the phone as you normally would, but keep the phone connected to the PC.

After using the phone for a while, (about 30 mins or so should do) turn the phone off, once is fully shut down you can then upload it for me to look at.

There will be a lot of data which will take me a while to go through properly, but perhaps it will offer a better understanding of what is causing then issue and how best to tackle it.
[HTC Desire S] Librastar:
my people and message app crashes sometimes when i try to connect my device as Disk Drive, ???
[HTC Desire S] totalnoob34:
Of course it does. If you mount the sdcard as disk drive it will be ejected from android; to keep using it you have to use third party apps like multi mount sdcard from play store.
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
On another ROM thread there was a talk going on about multitouch. Suddenly, went through my mind an idea to test the multitouch with special app. And now I see, that on my device more than 2 fingers aren't detected. Any idea why this could be so?
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
Disable HTC gestures in settings/display and it will work
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
Thank you very much, it helped!
[HTC Desire S] glacier1122:
Dont use 4x4 weather widget!
[HTC Desire S] 441Excelsior:
I have 4x4 weather widget and I don't notice any problems...anyway you can force laucher to run as visible service by build.prop tweak and therefore it can't be killed even on low memory
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
Since my launcher stops quite a lot of times, what do I need to do exactly with build.prop? Thanks!
[HTC Desire S] 441Excelsior:
add this line:

ro.home_app_adj=1

to build.prop
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
The last few weeks on 1.1 I have a lot of trouble getting a good location fix in apps like Foursquare and Simple.

With GPS its fine, but not with only Google Location services (using wifi and other sources).

Any ideas what may be wrong? And possibly how to fix it?
[HTC Desire S] signfinder:
When will version 1.2 - is unknown. So my question is - who know how to fix the problem - error with google text-to-speech engine in Desire XS 1.1?
[HTC Desire S] Librastar:
Its not a prolem with this ROM only, this problem is because when your GPS is not active your phone try to get your location through service provider(gsm network or wifi etc)...
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
I know, that's exactly what I want: use other sources which I mentioned.

Those used to work fine, getting a good approximate location. But the last few weeks that doesn't work too well.

Any ideas what may be causing it?
[HTC Desire S] martusc:
Has anyone tried PICO TTS to see if it works.? I haven't, but will.
[HTC Desire S] peters.:
Pico is not listed in menu. Can we just copy some libs and binaries from older release?
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
Unfortunately, this didn't help, my launcher still stops. For example, I opened ES File Explorer, deleted an old nandroid backup, and on exit, the launcher restarted. :/
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
the error with the text to speech engine is down to some of the libs being transposed for the gnow libs which seems to break the standard test to speech for some reason.

you could try pulling the files from /system/usr/srec from an older version of the rom and see if that fixes the issue
[HTC Desire S] signfinder:
In Desire XS 1.0 in this directory - only directory "config". I copied full directory to device, reboot-and error still appears
[HTC Desire S] Tirofog:
Thanks, no launcher reloads since removing the widget a few days ago..
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
Ok, I will have a look and try and post up a small fix to tied people over till the next update, have been pretty bad over the last few days so haven't been able to spend more than a few minutes at the pc.

okay will see if I can find what is causing the 4x4 weather widget to cause rosie reloads for 1.2
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
The trouble with using other sources is that it is very dependant on how many known sources it can detect and pick up at that location, the more 'known' wifi spots, cell towers etc, the more accurate it gets. This is why google sent out the cars to map wifi signals to build up a data base of hotspots etc and there locations, but this data changes in the real world frequently, I am not 100%, but I believe that so long as you havent disabled gmaps calling home then if unknown sources are detected while you have a gps fix, then these sources are recorded and mapped to increase accuracy in the future.
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
So you're saying that I should enable gps to record the unknown location, after that it should get a fix without gps?

Interesting..
[HTC Desire S] HelixH:
slow contacts

Hi,

one of the reasons why I swiched to this ROM from Fallout was, that after a while sometimes contacts opend very slowly. After taping on the name the black screen and the turning cycle + "loading..." appeared for at least 5 but more like 10 seconds. Now the same thing happens in this ROM. I'm sure that someone has mentioned it before but I couldn't find anything. Is there a fix or explenation for the behavior?
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
It seems to be a common issue with sense 4 ports that slow downs occurs after a device has been used for an extended period of time, (if you look through the sense 4 port threads of other devices here at xda you will see that its something that crops up almost everywhere.)

I have tried to limit this but it obviously needs looking into further. I have asked for people to send me some logcats that include a full boot up and shut down with 30 mins or so usage inbetween so that I can try and get a better handle on things to hopefully improve this further with 1.2 so as soon as I have some I will get to work trying to come up with a solution.

This is a possibility but I cannot be 100% certain on this. However when at home it used to be that network location could have an accuracy of only 500 meters. Now it is consistently 20 meters, which I think is as close as network location will get. However, that said, if your say in an area where you are pinging only two cell tower then network location will always be highly inacurate as it will pretty much only be able to determine that you are in the overlap of the 2 towers, which could cover a large area. (that is of course highly simplified, it can work out your rough distance from each tower and therefore reduce the area further, but it will still end up as at least several square meters that you could be in.)
[HTC Desire S] peters.:
Network location based only on GSM cell-id can have accuracy to few hundred meters, depending how many BTS stations are reachable from your phone. Enabling WiFi brings you accuracy of few ten meters. Is your WiFi enabled (even not connected)?
[HTC Desire S] Quark^2:
Outside I have WiFi disabled (with a Tasker task), so that could explain the poor accuracy.

I'll try keeping on WiFi at all times the next week.
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
I didn't see the talk about front camera taking video upside down so I am asking will it be fixed on some of the next versions on the rom?
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
What resolution are you using? If it is the 1mb setting, try dropping it down as the desire s doesn't support it. I am planning on doing some major reworking of the camera.apk for 1.3 to hopefully bring some improvements to the image quality and a few extra tweaks, however there will be some reworking such as image stabilisation enabled for 1.2.

On another note, I would like to do some work on looking into the slow down that is occurring over time with the rom, but no one as of yet seems to have posted a log cat as I requested a couple of pages back. It really would be helpful if a few people stuffing from this issue would be willing to take time out to do a log cat in the way I requested so I can search for commonalities that may responsible, otherwise I am just stabbing in the dark on what is needed to fix it.
[HTC Desire S] phensta77:
Since I had installed a new kernel recently the increased lag had gone for now, a phenomenon I always had observed before. As for me, I will provide a log as soon as smoothness will decrease again.
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
Video is upside down on any resolution (high,low and mms) taking pictures works fine on small resolution

As for slowdowns, I didn't get any cuz I haven't used this rom more then 2 weeks.
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
What kernel did you flash, if it is not a secret? :D

---------- Post added at 06:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:44 PM ----------

Tried to do what you wrote. I get this error in command prompt:

EDIT:

Tried to take a logcat one more time, this time the error is much bigger:
[HTC Desire S] peters.:
Did you enable Settings -> Developers options -> USB debugging?
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
Yes, it was enabled, although the icon was not present on status bar. (I've checked two or three times).
[HTC Desire S] craftman:
I don't know if it is a good or a bad news: I'm still on b2 (have Network Selection and settings in Quick settings, so definitely not b2.01 or higher), runing this version since last December, and never had a slowdown or lag. Social applications are removed during install, and build.prop is updated with the one fixing black screen in certain applications. Kernel is amidabuddha's 3.0.52 X+ tweaked. Never reboot my phone, it's current uptime is 740+ hours, despite of this, it is blazing fast. Everything I need from a smartphone is working flawlessly, which could mean there are bugs in the ROM, but I didn't face them. Maybe you should consider falling back to this version and build 1.2 from "scratches".

PS: now you know why I can't provide you logcat :)
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
+1

I am on the same with some mods from b2.01 for almost half an year now. Kernel is b2b, no lag, no bugs, no slowdowns, no restarts. I guess only some basic stuff like battery % and quick setting are enough. There are plenty of ROMs with any kind of tweaks to play with for some time but this one here is just perfect and reliable software to use on a daily basis

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
Ever since I removed the 4x4 weather widget, the launcher restarts completely stopped, my phone is up for about 100 hours at this point, without a single crash.

Also, once it happened, that when I removed the same 4x4 weather widget, and I wanted to re-add later, I couldn't find it, it was gone. This may have something to do with the issue. Anyway, thanks for whoever gave the tip, it worked. :)
[HTC Desire S] martusc:
I have been on V1.1 with kernel b2b(?), 3.0.16 -gba7324f, for months and no restart or lag for weeks now.
[HTC Desire S] frantisek.sobota:
JB 4.1.1

Desire X got JB 4.1.1

Should we expect any update? :P
[HTC Desire S] 441Excelsior:
clear HTC Sense data and it'll appear again
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
That was quite a while ago, and I flashed loads of ROMs already, but if it happens again, I will do it, thanks. :)
[HTC Desire S] 441Excelsior:
btw what's the problem with 4x4 weather widget when you recommend to remove it? I have it on homescreen and I don't see any performance issues nor launcher crashing
[HTC Desire S] niravnn:
Maybe when HTC release source if I'm not wrong
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
Every once in a while, Sense would crash(?) on exiting from almost any application, and then it needs 10~ seconds while it restarts, and you have to watch the "Loading..." progress meanwhile. Not good. If it does not happen to you, there is absolutely no reason to remove it tho.
[HTC Desire S] thantos2024:
I have to be honest I have no idea what has happened there, only thing that I can suggest is try reinstalling busybox and see if that helps resolve the situation. (I know that busybox had issues installing via aroma with 1.1 due to the extra lb partition, but that is resolved for 1.2."

Well it looks like the common factor there is simply the b2b kernel, can people suffering system wide slow downs please confirm which kernel they are using, perhaps the rom isn't playing nice with the tweaked kernel for some reason.

Once I finally have 1.2 nailed and released with everything in the background working nicely, and HTC get round to releasing the source code, I hope to be able to collaborate with amidabuddha on a prot, time, health and life in general permitting. However there are substantial changes particularly at the kernel level that will have to be worked on such as adding in ion for use with jellybean so I really wouldn't expect anything in the short term.
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
I was using the patched kernel (because Aroma won't install the b2b when flashing the ROM, so I chose the patched). I will flash the b2b kernel seperate and leave feedback after 2-3 days of testing.

EDIT:

As expected: after flashing b2b was thrown back to recovery. It's probably, like mentioned some posts back due to the fact, that this ROM is reodexed(or something like that, I don't really understand as I am still a noob).
[HTC Desire S] craftman:
Nope, I1m on tweaked as I mentioned in my previous post. Even if I'm using a totally stripped down version, I don't think the tweaked kernel is causing the trouble for others. But it is just a guess.
[HTC Desire S] ngek202:
How come the Home button isn't working?
[HTC Desire S] martusc:
It's working. Remember long press on Menu for open apps.
[HTC Desire S] ngek202:
yeah I do know that but it really doesn't work for me maybe I should try again when i get home.

Thanks.
[HTC Desire S] sssimo96:
I hope that your health condition is improving.
[HTC Desire S] ngek202:
what could be the problem with Driver on Bluetooth :( its the same problem with SVHD. it partially works but the Transfer speed is way too slow and sometimes it fails to transfer, but on the Old ROM I'm using MIUI no problem at all.
[HTC Desire S] ngek202:
does Music app don't have any option to Filter Folders?

also the Wifi keeps disconnecting sometimes. any fix for this one?
[HTC Desire S] totalnoob34:
To exclude folders, you can put an empty file named .nomedia into them.
[HTC Desire S] ngek202:
Thanks Man will try that :D

and yeah also I want to add regarding Multi Touch it isn't working :( any Fix?
[HTC Desire S] craftman:
It was written some pages earlier, turning off HTC Gestures (3-finger) will fix this kind of problem. Personally I have no experience with it, so give it a try and report ;)
[HTC Desire S] Jokerovski:
Friends,

I have just installed the rom on my htc desire s, and it does not boot.... The bootloader is unlocked, recovery is installed the latest one... i have installed the rom and then reboot with adb to fastboot and install the boot.img i chekced 10 times that its ok... AND ITS oK!!! I ended up with a black screen lighted after the htc logo disappear and its on like 5 minutes eachtime i try something... Is that normal how long should i wait for it ??? Am i missing something.... TY guys im unhappy these days :( sry
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
On various roms, first boot can take up to 10 minutes, I don't really remember exactly how much you have to wait on this one. If you flashed correctly, and correctly flashed the boot.img as well, then wait some more, maybe.
[HTC Desire S] akshatir:
can neone gemme link to desire xs 2.01 ... cnt find it ne where
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
Latest version is 1.1 . Next is 1.2 and it is not yet finished.
[HTC Desire S] Jedioscuro:
I think he meant the beta 2.01. Didn't find it here either...
[HTC Desire S] jmcclue:
And did u full wipe before u flashed the rom?
[HTC Desire S] akshatir:
meant beta 2.01
[HTC Desire S] maciclazar:
Oh, sorry i thought you meant viper rom
[HTC Desire S] akshatir:
y wud u thnk that
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
what language are you speaking?
[HTC Desire S] StormShadowBK:
LOL that was kinda "speaking" and "short" language. I try to translate: "Why would you think that?"
[HTC Desire S] hundeva:
I understood him just fine, it is just irritating to see such a broken english.:)
[HTC Desire S] akshatir:
Sorry to irritate you my friend.. enjoy the full length english