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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] swan3609:
I am starting to see limited returns for some of these specs..

13MP camera is only as good as the sensor and the software that are behind it- I am sure it will be impressive, but how much "better" will it be?

N2 has 2gb of RAM

How much difference is there going to be in the 4410 vs the 5450? At this point, all I want is power efficiency, These phone are starting to get to the point of powerful enough, I cant see there being much of a difference in the way the phone runs between these two processors.

1080p Screen @ over 400ppi, Yes this may be nicem but how much is it actually needed, I wasnt really that impressed with the DNA screen, and I rarely watch anything at 1080.. Sure its nice, but of limited return..

Not trying to say that the S4 wont be a killer device, I just think that the Note II will stay on the top and competitive for a while.. I am starting to see diminishing returns in the upgrades in phones.. They arnt making huge leaps as perceived from my perspective..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
Same could be said about the N2 release, and that was spot on. Usually when you go back and review older boards, there is always a few people who claim to have insider info that get the release pretty spot on. Not saying you aren't right, but it is just as equally as possible given the unknowns that they announce it and have it out within a month. Maybe not in the USA, though, but in other parts of the world.

It is unknown if it will be better or not. I don't know how many users just wanted the N2 because of the superior specs to the S3. If they found the N2 a good substitute, maybe it would be better ofr them to wait for the S4. I'm not going to wait a few months, but if it is coming from Samsung I expect nothing but amazing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bsweetness:
There was nothing surprising about the Note 2 release. It followed suit with the timing of the release of the original Note. It was also backed up by more tangible evidence further out from launch. A Q1 launch for the S4 would be surprising based on previous release schedules and based on the lack of tangible evidence or substantial rumors at this point.

Could it happen? Sure. Anything can happen. Is a Q1 release for the S4 likely? More than likely not.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
I guess we will see. My guess is they want to keep cashing in on their flagship phone, so yeah. No different to me from ip4 and ip4s, so take it as what you like.

I never said the n2 arrival was unexpected, but having rumors state that this exact day when the n2 would be released in the USA is. So they may be rumors, but some people obviously have more insider info than others. I would not be shocked at all if we saw s4 in early q1 that is all I'm saying.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] P2o8wer:
My thoughts..... I wish verizon would launch it already.. I can't wait..

Sent from gs3..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jennnyy:
I seriously cannot wait until I get the phone in my hands! :) I'm using an iPhone 4S and it's time I make the trek back to the other side. I opened up a new line of service on my account just so I can get the phone at $300. Going to convert my current line to a dumb phone and pay the extra $20~ a month going from a single line to a family share line (I have a Wells Fargo discount). I can't just pay my $230 early termination fee for my current line, as I'll lose my WF discount :( I did the math and I'll be paying just about $30 or so in total more with the extra cost a month. Totally worth it IMO for the Note 2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Its TwiX:
Samsung already announced that the rumor of the S4 coming out in Q1 was wrong.

Les than one week til release and I can't wait! Though I'll have to say it was no where near as bad as the Thunderbolt. "Released in the end of February" (with ads about it and everything) February comes and goes with no word on what's going on then finally in the end of March it comes out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] xXJay_RXx:
Ah I cant wait for this phone. I got my cases n my 2 spare batteries for this thing. I'm ready. $700 sure is a tough pill to swallow. I think I seen the Sprint Note 2 for $650 n I was hoping that would be the price but eh oh well. I have a family plan with 4 lines already. Can I open a new line to get the Note 2 for $300 n then switch to a dumb phone while still keeping my unlimited data? I tried it online n it wouldn't let me :/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
Take it for what you may, that was almost over 2 months ago that they announced that. Plenty of sites going off about CES 2012 in January it will be announced and expect a release in Feb. Plus, some Korean sites have reported that Samsung is in the process of producing a different type screen that goes away from their typical AMOLED display, so I guess we will see.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ronjr123:
I am doing the same thing. This is letting keep my unlimited plan.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] TechBSwift:
yes you can, you have to buy the phone on the new line, once you received the phone wait 24 hours then switch that line to a dummy phone and and transfer the note 2 to your unlimited data line.

works every time and will cost you an extra $17 a month on your bill for that dummy line. I did the math and I sold my S3 today for ($400), paid ($318) for N2 + 2 year plan at $17 a month ($408). So my total for the next two years is $726, since I sold my phone for $400 I'm only coming out my pocket for the phone and extra line, $326.

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Before anyone says anything, yes I could have just sold my phone, purchase an N2 for $699, but they would have charged me tax and $30 upgrade fee totaling $760+. Another bonus I have a second phone and phone number.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
extra line should only cost around 11-12 bucks after taxes.. don't know how you got 17.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phemark:
Hi,

How to get Nexus 10 to have split screen multitasking like Note2?

Is it possible at all?

Also, can you run apps in windowed mode in Android?

At the moment, I can have browser in a window and video player in a window (super video, but no sound for some reason...), and it would be good if i could have more options like this.

Thanks
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarjar124:
That that is a touch-wiz thing. If you want that you might as well get the galaxy note 10.1
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MuT7:
Any chance this could be coded into custom roms though?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nothijngrad:
There's a floating browser app that works quite well. Try searching for that.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyvatron:
Try stick it . a bit buggy but works well.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrdinosaur:
It's doable if not very elegant.

LilyPad Chat

BS player

Floating browser
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yumcax:
I've tried out a couple floating video apps, and I like Popcorn player the most. Also Floating Browser Flux is an okay free browser.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SacTappingUni:
Multi window support is possible. I suppose it could be built into cyanogenmod. But I bet it would most likely come as a flashable zip, not a built-in feature. It would probably be really difficult to code though. It's not really what most XDA members would be able to do. Maybe we could get the Paranoid Android devs to work on it? They seem like the most qualified to me.

The Nexus 10 is a powerful device. One of the major downfalls with Android is the lack of mulit-window support. The Nexus 10 could become a super functional powerhouse for productivity if we could just get it to display more than one screen at a time.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jotokun:
CM actually tried to implement something very similar Multiwindow in CM9 (look up Cornerstone). Google went Maffia on them and dropped hints that they would blacklist CM roms from accessing the market if they went through with it since there's potential for apps to not work right. They were worried that any issues that arose from such a setup would be blamed on the devs of the apps.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-and-bring-true-tablet-multitasking-to-cm9/

Its doable, but its also understandable why devs dont want to touch it anymore. Before that happened, you'd see plenty of unofficial CM builds with cornerstone integrated.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lKBZl:
Actually, there's a brand that is developing an app... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqBAfMwCAc
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skinien:
Have any of you guys played around with the governor settings? I switched to Interactive and I noticed that the phone feels more responsive and has much less lag when unlocking or going into the quick settings pane. Just wondering if I'm experiencing a placebo effect or if others have done the same.
[Nexus 4 General] a1jatt:
Don't know if it was posted already but I just discovered that nexus 4 can be used on telus LTE network.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k83JUCEe5Po&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muYjL2horzI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 4 General] remlap13:
I'm also on Telus.. How in the heck did you manage that?
[Nexus 4 General] kentt1:
Wow! This is huge news.

In other news I'm stuck on Rogers for another year.
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
Shenanigans
[Nexus 4 General] djkinetic:
Video or it didnt happen.
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
This
[Nexus 4 General] THE_KINGDOM:
Interesting, post a video for sure
[Nexus 4 General] HDdarkmantis:
Agreed, video or it did not happen
[Nexus 4 General] ashirviskas:
The screen capture has wrong resolution...

I don't think its n4
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
I highly doubt that it really works. Don't you think that it's just the Nexus' DC-HSPA+ being referred to as 4G in Android?

It would make sense, and it's also capable of up to 42 mbps

Anyway, did you modify anything?

Running a custom or stock ROM?

You really made me curious, though. Especially since there is in fact an, obviously not active, LTE chip in the N4.

The aspect ratio is the same as if it was 1280x768. It's most likely just a downscaled screenshot.
[Nexus 4 General] comminus:
this.
[Nexus 4 General] remlap13:
Yea.... Especially since he hasn't come back to give us any sort of explanation.. It's gotta be shenanigans.
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
He's getting amazing speeds though
[Nexus 4 General] comminus:
Or... he provided an image with amazing speeds because of shenanigans... :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] venturizhou:
This has already been answered and discussed at length. Conclusion, it doesn't have the necessary amps or antennae.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34371218
[Nexus 4 General] comminus:
...but the arbitrary image... it must be valid because of reasons. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] venturizhou:
Couldn't those just be screenshots of a Verizon Galaxy Nexus?
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
Only if the OP changed the aspect ratio of the screenshot and it doesn't really look stretched (the gnex has 1280x720, the n4 1280x768)

The aspect ratio of the screenshot is the same on the N4.

I posted about it on the 1st page.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanogendroid:
I call faksies.
[Nexus 4 General] comminus:
Verizon's LTE is Band 13 (700 MHz), Telus LTE uses Band 4 (2100/1700 MHz).

I have no problem admitting I'm wrong about this if it can be proven.
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
I'd suspect software. We may be able to hack some stuff from the European Optimus G when it is released.

End of the day battery life will only suck more so hardly worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] Bishop:
Well basically AWS LTE bands are supported by the Nexus 4. I wonder why there is no documentation on the FCC regarding that. Can someone explain that?
[Nexus 4 General] malimal:
did you change the apn?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also what setting are you all changing to in phone settings?

LTE ONLY or lte/gsm Auto?

I am sure lte only for test purpose, but for regular use I would assume lte/gsm auto in case you are not in a LTE area.
[Nexus 4 General] Bishop:
This has nothing to do with APNs. Service is available or not. If you pick LTE coverage that's it, you're golden.
[Nexus 4 General] malimal:
I'm pretty sure you need to switch to the Att APN once you switch to lte in phone settings.

For me the att pta APN was automatically added once I enabled late in phone settings.

But I'm not in a lte coverage are right now. I will see what happens when I get in to known coverage areas.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] farhie:
I'm just a greedy brit! But yes it's a shame, nice if you're in Canada though!
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
Just tested it on Rogers getting 47 down
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
See pic
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
But even with that European Optimus G radio / firmware, the lack of a physical antenna and amplifier for the EU LTE bands will be a show stopper.
[Nexus 4 General] djkinetic:
Really? I'm not a newb/idiot....Yes my APN is the ATT LTE apn with pta, and I forced LTE Only, because if you choose LTE/GSM, if it doesnt find LTE it will choose WCDMA, both devices same APN and same LTE Only, S III picks up ATT 4g (LTE) Nexus has no service whatsoever, network scanning doesnt show any available networks while in LTE Only on the Nexus 4 while the GS III shows ATT...
[Nexus 4 General] farhie:
North ndaymnt

I wandered if there would be a SW way around this for people in Europe, but it appears a lack of HW might prove a bridge too far. I would happy to be proved wrong though!
[Nexus 4 General] lombardo8:
Wowzers :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] TriC_101:
Check you facts Canadian Carriers are 2100/1700 Band 4 also 2600mhz Band 7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
[Nexus 4 General] NYConex:
For the guys who have tried it on at&t, what ussd code are you running to get into the phone menu? When I run the code I get an error.
[Nexus 4 General] cocchiararo:
Anand said that no USA carrier is using AWS for LTE yet, that would be why it is not working.
[Nexus 4 General] djkinetic:
*#*#4636#*#* was able to get in on goldfinger's midnight rom.
[Nexus 4 General] squshy 7:
Hmm..you know who has LTE on 1900?

Sprint.

We just got LTE nano-sims as well for the iphone5...wonder if you could make it fit...
[Nexus 4 General] TriC_101:
Buddy just tested this on his Nexus 4 here at work in London, Ontario on Rogers just got 51Mbps down 17Mbps up now on my S3 I get 68Mbps down 22Mbps up. I also have one more bar on my S3 for Signal.

Be interesting to see what someone gets in Toronto area... I know I have seen S3 speeds close to 100Mbps down in the Toronto area
[Nexus 4 General] NYConex:
No luck getting into the menu on the stock but rooted ROM (at&t). Might try and flash a custom ROM and try again. I'm in a pretty big late area so I will definitely see a difference if it does work
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I think we shouod keep this a secret so that google doesnt get into trouble...Also this means the nexus is ready for tmobile's future lte network.
[Nexus 4 General] ChongoDroid:
I only get 1-2 bars of LTE and I can still manage similar speeds on my one x just for comparisons sake.. 30-50mbps range
[Nexus 4 General] [c]K:
Now I regret not getting the N4 on release day... subed for more developpement.
[Nexus 4 General] NexusIncarnate:
Lol. You're funny. A secret...right. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] NYConex:
I threw my sim back in my one x and I still can't run the code.. getting a connection error or invalid mmi code.
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
After making the change to "LTE only" and adding the new APN settings, it worked! On Rogers in Toronto.

Only let other N4 users know and keep it quiet cuz we know its a matter of time before Rogers puts an end to this.
[Nexus 4 General] Tony_YYZ:
This is great news!!
[Nexus 4 General] leobg:
I doubt they can put end on this. Google is one who can do it though.. Let's see.

I can confirm it works on both Telus and Rogers and speeds are comparable to LG Optimus LTE I have, signal bar strength reading too.

I am having strange issue while using the LTE microsim from Rogers though - almost (4 of 5 times) when I dial number out, it disconnects for split second and reconnects - call is fine and all, but gets recorded twice in call log and you can't dial conference bridges (numbers with pauses)
[Nexus 4 General] mb3030:
Can you explain this more?

---------- Post added at 10:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:19 AM ----------

Sorry meant explain this.... Missed the quote
[Nexus 4 General] mybook4:
So it's only a matter of time until someone starts a thread to investigate whether LTE Band 1 and 2 can be enabled (as Brian from Anandtech said, the physical hardware seems to be there).

I'd start by looking for settings which show unlocked bands (usually a hidden menu enabled with a dial code). It's possible that Bands 1 and 2 are software disabled (before the MDM9215 firmware).

For an FYI, NV Item 1877 shows enabled bands, and can be written to with DFS, QPST, or QXDM.

There may also be NV Items related to the different LTE Bands. The Bionic and Rezound were able to enable HSPA+ on 1900Mhz and AWS by altering item 1877. The VZW GSIII is trying to do it now.

You could also write LTE NV Items from another phone which has the MDM9215 and Band 1 or Band 2 LTE support.

This sounds like a fun little experiment that could potentially enable Band 1 and Band 2 LTE on the Nexus 4. If nothing else, it would increase knowledge of the device.

Happy hacking!

P.S. I'm a VZW GSIII guy (with a nice long contract ahead of me), but I'd help out. However I don't frequent the N4 forums. I just happened to stumble on this thread last night when I couldn't sleep. If you guys need anything, PM is probably the most efficient way to contact me.
[Nexus 4 General] ChongoDroid:
This has hit major android news sites already.. secrets out :p
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
If that's the case, do you think it would be accessible through Nova Launcher's "Activities" widgets? Meaning you can set up a button that takes you to engineering mode settings or something.
[Nexus 4 General] waxinpoetic:
In Toronto, in limbo 3... Was OK waiting, but this is too much!

Sent from my LG-P935
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
What's stopping someone with a different phone on 3g setting up APN etc...and getting onto LTE?
[Nexus 4 General] zookalicious:
Any remember what the default setting was in the phone menu for data? I tried using LTE but realized that I don't have an LTE compatible SIM card but I totally forgot what the original setting I had on was. Just don't want to mess anything up.
[Nexus 4 General] onedude1:
LTE by Techcrunch..

Hi Guys..

I just ran accross this article.. anyone that has the phone will care to try it? Saddly I am an LL3 so I cant.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how-to-enable-4g-lte-on-the-google-nexus-4/

Hopefully its true and it works on all carriers?!

:D
[Nexus 4 General] TheFiveDots:
Not every phone has the hardware for it.
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
Dude you haven't been following this thread at all. OP came up with this method, Techcrunch is just biting off XDA without giving them credit
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Not sure if someone else has confirmed as I have not been following this thread but Bell also works (it's not mentioned in the article that was posted this morning).

Edit: I set to LTE/GSM/CDMA option and it works. Doesn't seem to go back to HSPA+ or anything. Stays with the 4G logo since I turned it that way.

Cheeers
[Nexus 4 General] onedude1:
Woops! sorry dude... I saw that the OP published some videos on the openning thread but I didnt watch the videos :o ...

If he was the one that discovered it Kuddos to him and raise your glass in his name. :cowboy:....

there should be a beer glass emoticon....
[Nexus 4 General] mybook4:
Yes. I've accessed hidden settings for my GSIII using that method. Check for shortcuts in the settings app.

Also check out the method used here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31851134 . It was used to get info from the settings apk regarding a 4g toggle, but you could decompile your dialer app and hopefully find a list of dial codes. Google dex2jar and jdgui for tutorials. You guys will need the dial codes for a million reasons. I recommend documenting anything you find in a separate thread (a dial code list thread). We have one on the GSIII and it's been crazy convenient many a time for me.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
:beer:

Like that?
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew149:
Guys for att, the nexus 4 is identacle to the optimus I'm sure we will get lte to work on att soon

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] Jur1nator:
hahaha, this thread is such a hit in the face of all the people over in the other thread:

click

telling people it could absolutly not be done :D

but won`t be able to use it here in germany anyway but nonetheless pretty cool :)
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
I meant LTE capable device. Using an LTE enabled Sim with the same APN settings they should get same access, correct?
[Nexus 4 General] cmstlist:
Some of AT&T's LTE deployment is on AWS due to lack of nationwide 700 spectrum. I suppose this will be one way to figure out exactly where those areas are...
[Nexus 4 General] maddog497:
For anyone on Telus, not sure if the sims are LTE enabled or not but when I picked up the S3, i got the micro sim for it. I had them confirm that there would be no extra charges for using LTE data.

I was informed and since have confirmed that with Telus, data is data and there are no addition fees.
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Yes it wont hurt anything. I have used an LTE sim card in non LTE phones and it just rolls back to HSPA. Worth a try since it's only 5 bucks (with bell at least)
[Nexus 4 General] gdap:
Is an LTE sim card a must?

I am guessing that's the case. Just tried LTE only in Milton,On and not getting anything (changed APN settings too..)

Great news to wake up in the morning to BTW! :>
[Nexus 4 General] tulongest:
Yeah, you'd need an LTE sim card.

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/accessories/other_nhdgsim.shtml
[Nexus 4 General] mlarco52:
Has anyone tried this with Fido in Canada, if so what are the APN settings and what not to get it working for fido?

Also will this effect the phone in any negative way, cause any damage? (Expecting worse battery life but that is a given).

Edit: Also from some of the videos it doesn't show any of the people changing their APN settings? Why is this? Can you just run the regular APN settings that your phone is now normally running and simply do the *#*#4636#*#* and change to the LTE/GSM/CDMA auto prl and it will automatically switch between LTE and H+ and 3G based on where you are and the coverage you have in said area?

Thank you!
[Nexus 4 General] mightydrake:
Also interested in feedback from anyone on Rogers / Fido in Canada. Do you have any issues with call quality or delay before placing call ?

I need to find out if it works properly before going out to buy an LTE Micro Sim card.
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Will this be compatible with Australian LTE networks?
[Nexus 4 General] mlarco52:
I think all new rogers and fido micro sims are LTE capable, atleast on both their respective websites they only list lte micro sim's now and I just bought mine last week so hopefully mine works.
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
If you are on Telus/Bell you dont need to change your APN settings, they use the same APN. From what I hear, Rogers you need to update it to the LTE APN. It won't hurt the phone either, dont worry.

Not sure about Fido either, I assume same APN as Rogers, try google.
[Nexus 4 General] kentt1:
I got my Rogers sim a couple weeks ago and LTE is working for me.
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
Holy **** is this for real? I haven't skimmed the thread yet but wow
[Nexus 4 General] cman6453:
Dead day at work and I chose not to bring in my N4. SHEESH!
[Nexus 4 General] Ayeso:
Holy smokes!

https://www.box.com/s/rain7kbldcl6tqg3gz1c
[Nexus 4 General] dannycalgary:
Well damn, when you guys reboot your phone it sets it back to default. Kind of a pain in the arse...