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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] johnminator:
Yall just made my decision much easier to get the note2 over the dna
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidstyle:
Yea thats the last time I donate blind!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adampa1006:
Sounds awesome looking forward to it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
800!! damn i thought it was 600 just checked vzw and its 700 there.. looks like ill be buying it from vzw instead of bestbuy..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
You might be able to get Best Buy to price match, but full retail is $700.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] clemson91:
If your getting it from Bestbuy get them to do the price match thing, Verizon's off contract price is $699, so that'll save you $100 and you can still do the finance plan.

Edit: Oh well I see I'm a little late.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] shelooga:
Good call on the price match guys, I'll give it a whirl..

Cmon, cmonnnnnnn!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Demo44:
Take a look at Amazon Wireless, $$629 unlocked. It is a International model.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] shelooga:
I saw that; no Verizon logo on it too. But with the $$ burning this month, gotta take advantage of the RW zone points
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] scurley1898:
Relatively speaking, I'm a "noob". In the past I've learned to root watching you tube videos which ultimately led me to the Xda forums. I have not donated in the past but plan to do so now. My question is what is considered a decent donation? Now that I've read what I've just typed I realized i should probably search that question first. In any case I am looking to support any development for the Verizon GN2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] iofthestorm:
As of now is the phone assumed to be bootloader locked? I would consider selling my GS3 and getting one if it wasn't but with that and with the troubles that i9300 has given CM developers I'm not so sure about it (I prefer AOSP, even on my Note 10.1). But it's really cool to see a lot of the old Fascinate devs here, I'm a bit surprised more aren't on the VZW GS3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JetBlue:
What happened? I remember seeing donations for Joelz but I never knew what happened afterwards.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] xXJay_RXx:
No ROM ever came from Joelz. He kept saying he was so busy but he should have known he would be too busy to develope the ROM n shouldn't have accepted donations. I think he just took the phone n ran. Glad I didn't donate to him
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adampa1006:
Thats a bad story I hope that doesnt happen again. Coming from the OG and the Bionic, I'm gonna be totally new to Samsung modding. Im glad to see some interest.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
If you want to use it on VZW, then don't buy it from Amazon as that one almost certainly won't work.

Yeah, all signs point to a locked bootloader. Personally, I'm even considering getting it if the bootloader doesn't get unlocked. I want the device with TW to use the S-Pen to its fullest. While it still works on AOSP, you loose the features that make it worth while. Also, the Exynos open source stuff should start showing up in a couple weeks to help with people trying to get AOSP going on those SoCs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Currentweb:
Who knows, we could have another "African-Canadian Sock Monkey" leak lol. I wouldn't bet on it, but stranger things have happened. Maybe there is a guy inside Samsung with a weird ethnicity and a thing for puppets, who also likes to let people hack phones. You never know :P

Cross your fingers. Root is the only really important thing we need. Kexec could handle the bootloader worst comes to worst.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
i arleady have a gauranteed root method and a recovery image just no phone lol.. ps i would never do anything like "juelz" or whoever just look in my thread on sgs3 forum i make one of the most updated roms for the verizon s3 everything touchwiz works perfect and its themed to be like aosp :) bunch of mods etc :) here is thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1973982 and here is a video.. of newest build released yesterday.. i usually update once or twice a week http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVRi8ONXR7I&feature=youtu.be&hd=1 :) if i get this phone more or less just trying to raise money atm i will make a JellyBeans Note2 rom for sure as well as help with kexec etc.. kexec is gauranteed to work if we dont get a bootloader unlock..

ps i also had the first custom rom on the verizon s3 :) "beans custom ics" gonna hopefully get first on note2 even if i have or dont have it yet:)

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ya roots gauranteed.. kexec is most likely gauranteed as well only thing we need is the stock monkey love and im pretty sure hell drop us some love :) no reason why he would do it for s3 and not note2 as its gonna be just as popular.. but i can gaurantee the stellar never see's the stock monkey love haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] TechBSwift:
Beans how much more you need to go to obtain this phone? I think it would be easier to get people to donate if we knew the goal, as well I will jump on your S3 to get people to throw you some love.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
i got 300 now and its 700 :/ so i need 400 still but i have a sale for my old car i have but it wont sell for a cpl weeks til my buddy has money lol and thats only 300 i told him the same price junkyard told me lol would rather help a friend then help a junkyard :)

sorry for the tangent lol but i have 300$ now and possibly 300$ more in a cpl weeks all depends if he ends up buying the car.. as it stands now i still need 400$ :/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidstyle:
Just recieved a pm from him, he will be releasing bamf tonight for the s3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nitsuj17:
lol not scroler, sbrissen23 (his real name is scott)

im getting the DNA as well (whats a sense phone without a Team Venom ViperROM :p )

but would like to work on Note 2 in collaboration with other TSM Guys

for those unfamiliar with sbrissen23's work on tw (hes really accomplished on aosp) he wrote/created tsm parts....which, along with roman's edt tweaks/rom control, was the basis of all touchwiz froyo and gingerbread tweak apps, lockscreens, and many mods

and this is what we did on the fascinate:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1108991

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1274561

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1085298
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] eman3316@optonline.net:
Do not donate to Beans! We do not want to lose him in the SGS3 forum. I will make sure no Note 2 shows up at his house, lol.

Beans has been great to the SGS3 forum. Have been running his Rom for a while now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidstyle:
Lol send his note 2 my way! :p

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I would love to see TSM make a comeback for the note2!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
thats not even right..! but kids will be kids i guess just sucks for all u guys.. im 27 so dont worry and thats not how i roll..

lol dont say that!! i will still be deving for both phones.. just got this obsession with the note lately and wanna help the community like i did for s3 in the beginning

lmao!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
If you can flash custom recovery, then you don't need a root exploit. Flash custom recovery, boot to recovery, flash the superuser zip. Odds are that you can get CWM setup just based on the dump in the development forum and the stuff from the N7100. It would take all of 5 minutes probably to set it up. I'm not sure how you guarantee it to work without having the phone though, sounds more like a guaranteed way to make a fool of oneself.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] jmill75:
Just picked up the note today. I'm running your ROM on the Galaxy s3. I really don't want to use the note until I have your ROM on it also. I'm spoiled I guess
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BlueHarford:
beans you said you already had a root method.. will you share? i got mine
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
inject the superuser apk and binary into the odin image same way we did on s3 :) only problem right now is we have an old ass image.. if someone can get the current one it wont take long at all

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dont talk **** about ppl u dont know and facts u dont know! remember assuming always makes an A$$ outa u and me ;) initially on s3 we had to root and then flash recovery unless we have a bootchain that enables flashing of a custom recovery only way we can do it otherwise is injecting the binary and apk into the tar like s3.. all depends on the protection used on this phone me myself think it will be exactly the same as vzw s3

ps gaurantee a fully working twrp before cwm anyday and please enlighten me on the last samsung galaxy phone u have had? thought so..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] xXJay_RXx:
Doesn't Mobile Odin inject root n superuser like Beans said? I could have sworn I read that, meaning Beans is probably right about how to gain root on this phone. Now, that boot loader......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] thunderbread:
Beans I can't wait to get your work running on my Note 2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
Hypocrite much? In fact, I've had a Samsung Fascinate (Original Galaxy S on VZW) and Continuum (also a Galaxy S phone). After that, I had a DROID Charge, which was sort of a combination of the Fascinate, SGSII, and Galaxy Nexus LTE. I then picked up the Galaxy Nexus on launch day, and have had that since, but also have a T-Mobile Galaxy S II. But you're right, I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to Samsung phones or their Galaxy products. And I also have a Galaxy Tab 2, as a final note.

Also, without having the phone, you need to know someone that has it, otherwise, whatever you have that "works to root and give it custom recovery" is useless IMO. Until it is tested by multiple people, it should be assumed as non-working. I've worked on multiple Samsung devices, and what works for one doesn't always work for another, and things are rarely the same between devices, especially if they have different internals.

You're comparing a Qualcomm device to a Exynos device. The Qualcomm based SGS3's all have more or less full AOSP/CM support, what is the Exynos based SGS3 getting? Last I checked they have had nothing but problems getting things to work, and the same can be said for almost all other Exynos based devices from Samsung as well. I would say that you assuming things will be the same between the Qualcomm S4 SGS3 and Exynos 4 Note 2 is a bigger mistake than any assumptions you may have found in my post. But, then again, I never had any Galaxy devices, so what do I know...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] shabbypenguin:
if you have the tar you can do that yourself just as easy. from the topic at hand the odin tar yall have seems to be a bit dated and thats why no one will use it? if you do great youve got root on an older firmware versions with no way to restore if the bootloader is actually locked. why is that you ask? because the person who rooted can give everything but stock system, with a locked bootloader you cant go flashing a modded kernel/recovery to then grab stock system. so this presents a one way trip if that bootloader is locked until it gets unlocked.

anyways wanted to point out over here i n vzw land Sbrissen has a get a device thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2019062 . its posted in the sprint forums cuz sprint people love him from the epic 4g touch, his credentials have already been covered previously in the thread. why am i informing yall? cuz hes getting a vzw variant, so if youd like to help your sprint brethren out and get you and the sprint note 2 users a good dev you guys can chipin there.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] TechBSwift:
Cant we all just get along? No seriously chill out you two, you both are great devs and we just had a new baby together(note2) lets start this thing off right. Good news, samsung just released the source code.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] times_infinity:
Ehh, I would hop on the train with nitsuj17, sbrissen, and imnuts.

But with the current state of Exynos reference code and documentations, especially after seeing what codeworkx, entropy, et al. had to go through with Exynos4 based devices, and my experiences with the Sprint Galaxy S2, it's a major turn off.

Also, my motivation for development has been drained due to recent personal events that have taken place.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
Squashy!

If you feel like donating to a quality dev, check here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2019413 :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
im not even posting in here anymore.. if u want me to get a note then donate to me if not then donate to someone else.. no point in fighting with people who have no idea what there talking about.. dude had a droid charge lol.. and look where aosp got on that absolutely no where.. a cpl members of liquid arleady have the note 2 and sgs3 international.. which is exynos.. so to take it into consideration do u want no name teams working for u guys or someone in liquid, miui.us and with connections to aokp and cyanogenmod..

ps the only reason this thread got into a flamewar is because of imnuts being jealous of all the "beans i cant wait til u get a note2 posts"..

cant wait til invisiblek or i release root/recovery before anyone else will just literally make me lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] invisiblek:
my e-penis is bigger than...ah nevermind...

don't sweat it man, xda at its finest :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
just a lil insight nocoast just got aosp working on tmo note2 before cm or aokp :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
Did you really just compare getting AOSP onto a phone to making a TouchWiz ROM? Also, I guess you're new, so you probably don't know what TeamSbrissenMod is, so, you probably want to go out and do a little more research before you continue posting. I also find it funny that you pick out one of the several phones I listed, and I haven't pointed any anything with any of your work besides the fact that I said it's immature and naive to say you have a working recovery/root without having anyone test it yet. I'm sure Apple thought that iOS6 Maps were great when they were looking at them too...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
all i initially said was i know a gauranteed way for root/recovery one of a cpl ways.. and i know itll work.. obviously when someone gets the phone they can test and see im not lying.. dont understand why u had to say im gonna let ppl down lol.. ps neither i nor invisiblek have galaxy stellar and who did root/recovery for that.. him who made first working deodexed rom off new leak.. me and on the touchwiz base u gotta compare apples to apples.. i do have the most modded/customizable rom for vzw s3.. and the closest phone in terms of apps/framework is def the vzw s3.. only reason i even brought up aosp is cuz you said something about it.. and at the same time nocoast tweeted how good aosp is on the note2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
No need to get all your panties in a bunch.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
Who helped root the Samsung Aviator and got a semi-functional recovery? Who helped get the Samsung Continuum working custom recovery? Who helped root the Continuum for each software update? Oh, I also did that without the device. If I really wanted to, I could probably get a semi-functional root on almost any Samsung phone, it isn't rocket science. I've worked with TouchWiz and Samsung phones countless times, want a cookie for doing it too?

I also didn't say you would let people down, but you're bragging about doing stuff without actually doing it. That's like Joelz saying "I got this awesome ROM waiting for you guys, just need a phone" for the SGS3. If you really want to get into a pissing contest, I'm all for it, but I really don't care what you think or do, or say you can do. You may want to take a step back and realize who you're dealing with before getting your panties in twist and starting though.

Also, a final note, punctuation and capitalization will do wonders for people taking you seriously, not to mention make posts significantly easier to read.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
I've honestly never heard of any of those devices lol.. as u can see from my signature ive had all moto before s3. im done with this pissing contest its stupid. my whole point was that i know of a good 3 ways we can attempt to root this thing unless something crazy happened with how samsung is securing the phone for verizon(doubtful). Also this is the first confrontation i have had with anyone in the android community and all i was doing is defending my point.. and please with the "you dont know who ur talking to" thats childish what are u gonna do E-shoot me lol..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidstyle:
Ok lets call it a draw! Imnuts, timesinfinity, TSM, all are heavily experienced with samsung devices! I learned alot from them back on the galaxy s fascinate. Beans has done great work on the gs3...his custom touchwiz rom is among my favorites. If you guys all pull together some epic **** could happen here!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] skynet11:
I'm sorry you're going through these real-life trials now, but my thoughts are with you.

Regarding AOSP on Exynos-based devices, we'll have to see what additional documentation Samsung provides for the chipset, as @SamsungExynos tweeted a few weeks ago that it would provide more information by the end of the year. However, I'm hearing that it's just a token gesture and the documentation to be released will be useless for supporting functional, stable AOSP ROMs. I hope I'm wrong.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BeansTown106:
i fully agree
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] skynet11:
Ohai again Droidstyle :D We keep meeting in these threadz lately ;) Seeing a Teamsbrissenmod ROM on the Note 2 would almost be enough for me to sell my DNA and get one, even though I vastly prefer the hardware on the DNA. Oh well... I guess I'll have to hope nitsuj17 throws together a Teamsbrissenmod DNA ROM along with the Viper one (wink wink nudge nudge)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Entropy512:
God what a mess of egos and donation whores CDMA device communities are... I've NEVER seen a thread this atrocious and full of people fighting over donations as this one. The spirit of cooperation in GSM device forums is far better than this total mess.

General rule: Device donations usually fail. I'd say less than 5% of them are successful. Donate for work that has already been done, not in expectation of future work. If a developer says they need donations because they're low on cash - why are they low on cash? If their work was good enough to get a device's worth of donations, they would have received enough donations from their previous device to pay for a new one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nitsuj17:
honestly, after reading all this stuff i have no desire to be a part of the note 2 community

those that have donated, ill refund

sbrissen23 will hopefully end up with a sprint note 2, so hopefully some cross platform stuff will come from him for those on the vzw variant
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BlueHarford:
lol you all are over dramatic. if you want to be honest someone can say each user community sucks..

everyone needs to get over yourselves. just buy your own phone, or ask another dev or power user to help... or just dont dev for the phone..

i hope a mod cleans up or deletes this thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mastamoon:
nitsuj17 -> http://lornasvoice.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/kramer_is_out_gif.gif
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] geoff5093:
I don't get why devs think we should pay for their devices before they start working on ROM's and mods for our phones. What other job do you have that pays you before you do the work? Not many.

For all we know we could donate to a dev, and IF he actually makes good on his promises to develop, what promises do we have that he will stay with the device and develop for a while, and/or how do we know his ROM's will be any good?

Buy the phone, develop, ask for donations, then profit.

People also seem to forget that this is an open source community, many people like to create custom ROM's because they want to improve the device for themselves, and they share their work with others for free. This shouldn't be a job for people who are doing it just for the money.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidstyle:
In the past it was not this way...however with the cost of these devices and how often they are released, its probably tough for devs to justify dropping 6-700 dollars every 6mo on a new device. I can about gurantee not enough folks donate to even come close to covering the cost of these devices. However I do think these bounty and donation threads need to be banned for the simple fact all they do is cause pissing matches. Then a quality dev like nitsuj17 reads thru this mess and says "screw this forum". The wind is officially knocked out of my sails after reading his post...we just lost a top notch dev folks! Lets play nice before anybody else pulls the plug!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] jmill75:
Honestly if your out then so be it. Why would you let what 5-10 people influence your decision over a whole community. I have no problem donating where i see fit. But I am surely not handing money to someone with a bad attitude attributed by a cpl people. Jeesh
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DownRiver_Droid:
The devs here do this because they enjoy it. It is not a job, more or less a hobby. I have had a fascinate and a droid charge and many of the devs mentioned here worked on both those devices. I loved there work and would gladly donate to allow them to do so on the GN2. I do so expecting nothing in return

So basically all the whining b**ching people either need to grow up or learn to dev. The devs owe you nothing. If you don't want to donate then don't.

The devs who made the two mentioned devices great know who they are. I hope that they work on this device too. Either way thank you for all the great work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BlueHarford:
Myself and the team i work with will be doing possibly a rom, but mainly kernels for this phone. I bought the phoen with my own money, if any other dev needs a dump of something or whatnot for their own work, just ask me... i already uploaded and posted a system dump in the developer threads,,,

i didnt buy the phone to develop on tbh i bought it because its awesome... to each there own... everyone does things there own way.

i for one hand used beans rom exclusivly on my SGS3, and if he puts another one out with the same features for this one, you can bet your A** i will flash it with pride too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] UND3RTAK3R:
This donation issue is apparently bigger than xda community can handle alone and needs to be moderated by xda admin. The problem at hand is it shows a lack of appreciation for the chefs and developers who purchase their own devices and develope for the community.

I will say it again as in another post, that a community based fund "carrier based" were developers would apply for purchasing a device they would like to develop for. In this, make the standards high and fair to all so the community feels comfident their donations are being put to good use. Adx admin approves and the community votes on the device. This is a large project but it much better than current situation.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] sasquatch080:
Well I summon Adam Outler and the African Canadian sock monkey on this Huge project to get research started on the boot loader status.