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[Nexus 4 General] BR_Impulse:
Not happy with it eh? Well then you should give it to me because mine's backordered and I don't have any idea when I'll see my unit.

Seriously though, if you had both an S3 and a GNex before, why did you even bother to buy a Nexus4? You were fully aware that you were giving up your OLED screens and your LTE in the S3 so I don't know what you were expecting at all given the points you listed (screen, miracast and Qi). Your S3 was a high-end phone released only a few months ago. If you bought the Nexus4 for its main draw of its great SoC, its performance and that it's unadulterated stock android, these would have been logical points to be disappointed about if the Nexus wasn't delivering on these fronts. However, the points you listed really don't make much sense.
[Nexus 4 General] alsheron:
Aaaaaargh!

I've been into two shops to see the Nexus 4 screen specifically and I found that unless it was set to full brightness the screen was definitely "washed out" and dull EVEN WHEN TAKING INTO ACCOUNT MY CURRENT USE OF AN AMOLED SCREEN.

In other words the OP is raising an important issue I was going to raise myself and may still.

I looked at a few of the new phones in the shops I went into (carphone warehouse and O2) and even compared to some other LCD screens, including the amazing screen on the HTC One X, the screen on the N4 is noticeably washed out looking. Real shame and I hope these I've seen and the OP's are from a first batch or something that will improve. Otherwise a really nice phone I'll buy from GPlay to see what the one that gets sent to me is like.
[Nexus 4 General] Illusion81:
I just got my nexus and been messing with it all day, I personally like the screen and color display but not enough to sell my s3. I kept it and plan on going back and forth.
[Nexus 4 General] tyler78:
Who are "we"? I care about op's opinion. I want to buy this phone and I'd like to hear people's opinion whether it's bad or good before buying it. People like you, who wants to censor opinions that they don't like should be closed and banned I think.

I don't get people like you. Why can't people just express their opinion? In every "dissapointed by nexus 4" thread, there are guys like you. If you don't like it, just don't read it. The people who wants this phone and can't decide if to buy it or not needs posts like this. Let people express their opinions.
[Nexus 4 General] Mahdi786:
Just return the phone and stop opening useless threads, mods should close this thread and open a special one for all the retards.
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
If I see one more "my colors are washed out..." or " the screen is so faded" thread or complaint I'm going to pull out sell my computer so I don't need to see the internet flooded with these complaints. If you actually like seeing orange people, and whites that are yellow or pink then go keep buying devices with AMOLED screens. We have been stuck with AMOLED screens and have been told they were awesome because nothing else was available. In my humble opinion AMOLED screens completely oversaturate EVERYTHING. I hate looking at people that look like cartoons, but I guess if you have been staring at it long enough people you look at in real life start to look weird. IPS screens are not "faded" or "washed out" they simply offer REALISTIC colors. They portray a more accurate representation of what actually goes on in the real world. If a Pentile Amoled display is your idea of an awesome display holy moly, you don't even need a screen...
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Eh, while the N4 IPS is definitely a bit washed out I'd say a screen like the HTC One X blows the doors off of Samsung's AMOLED. Great contrast & saturation with much better whites and color accuracy.
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
For an informed opinion Google "Nexus 4 review" you will see no shortage of professional assessments of the device. When you are looking to replace a critical part on your car and have multiple options on which vendor to buy from, do you ask a mechanic, or even someone at the dealership? Or do you ask Frank the butcher from around town?....Opinions are like you know what, and everyone has them. Not trashing the OP by any means, but if you want a truly informed opinion on a device, go to any number of credible websites and publications that literally critique devices for a living.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Honestly it all comes to personal preferences ( as always I know) , I love S amoled displays, its like sunshine in your face. But I love the brightness of IPS display too. If I had to pick between the N4 display and the S2 super amoled plus display (best amoled display in my opinion in terms of colors) and if they had the same ppi, I won't know which one to choose.
[Nexus 4 General] klin1344:
Dude...be happy with your phone. At least be glad that you were able to order one without problems, unlike the many of us who are waiting on the next batch or on backorder. Many people would have loved to get theirs earlier. If you really don't like it, I'll be more than happy to buy it from you ;)
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
I agree about the Hox. My phone previous to my N4 was an International Hox and in my opinion that had the best display of any phone I've used and I've literally had every phone At&t and Verizon have to offer. I can honestly say I HATE Amoled screens bc I have used them for years. The Hox spoiled me and after that I had an LG 4x HD as well as my N4 now. If the N4 had the Hox's screen it'd be utter domination, but second best is an IPS, definitely not Amoled.
[Nexus 4 General] User1110:
Because in real world usage, specs dont matter. Both The Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 have the latest version of android with all the latest features, so the only real upgrade is the camera, and the small margin of extra performance, nothing new feature wise. The screen technology and design are based on a matter of preference
[Nexus 4 General] godman_8:
yah the only thing the current HD AMOLEDs have on the HD IPS LCD is blacks.....nothing else
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
Do you own an N4? If you do, then I'm sure you can attest that this phone simply does not show signs of bogging down no matter what you do to it. I got off my DoCoMo Gnex and popped my SIM into the N4 and aside from looking very similar at first glance, and both running 4.2 they couldn't "feel" more different. This phone simply does everything yesterday. I have not had one hesitation yet. If you think "the only real upgrade is the camera" my gosh man, what are you looking for this thing to make your lunch and wash your car?
[Nexus 4 General] lonz358:
Idk about the gs3 or gn but this screen is a million times better than my gs2 screen... I can finally see my screen on a sunny day :) what good is the screen if you can only see it indoors or at night?
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
I care more about accurate screens, better contrast and deeper blacks on a TV or monitor. Smart phones... Eh, less so. Amoled and LCD both have their advantages. Amoled in it's current state would look horrendous on a screen in the living room or a PC monitor. If more users demanded accuracy we might get it. Most iPhone users don't demand it and get it. Scratches head. Plasma ftw. Lol.

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[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
I have to disagree. I would much rather hear the opinions of actual device owners/users than the written-for-media reviews that are often even more biased. Not only that, I have seen multiple reviews of the Nexus 4, and while almost all of them highlighted several negatives, every Nexus fan would say "it was a pre-release device" or "it's not the final software" or some other reason that the review was skewed or incorrect.

I'm sorry but Nexus fan boys act exactly the same as iSheep. Every negative comment or review "must" be a troll, and the Nexus 4 is "better" than every phone out there.. give me a break..

Bottom line, from what I have read, there are several issues with the Nexus 4, from the screen turning yellow to being washed out to the reception being poor to the glass scratching easily. I suppose ALL those people are just making stuff up because they want a reason to hate the phone they bought on release day.. yeah ok.
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
Did anyone say the N4 was without flaw? I already said my Hox screen was better, and furthermore, I think other devices have stronger radios. On top of the fact that holding this phone is like trying to grab a wet fish, it's so damn slippery. All that aside, this device offers excellent hardware and pure android, meaning, updates before anyone else. If that is your thing, then this is the best phone you will own for now. As far as reviews, I don't watch or listen to one sites review and call it a day, I watch and or read every review I can get my hands on. And yes, while certain sites are Apple biased, when they actually give credit to an Android you know there must be something good there. I don't listen to reviews from everywhere, even users on this site. But I chose to HEAR the reviews of those who do this day in and day out. I don't take it as Bible, but I build my informed opinion based on everything I see and read.

80% of the people who trash the Nexus do so because they couldn't order one in time or didn't have the cash laying around. It's a no brainer, at this price point, unlocked, best hardware out to date (my opinion), plus no skins and direct updates from Google and no one else.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Trust me I am in agreement with you on all the benefits of the Nexus 4. I am probably going to pick one up and give my wife my S3.

However, what I dislike is when someone makes a thread to voice their opinion about the negatives of the phone and gets shot down as if they are a troll or have no right to express their negative opinion.

I also dislike when people swear up and down that product A is better than product B when it's obviously not. And I see a TON of that happen in the Nexus forums. And this is coming from a Gnex and Nexus 7 owner, so I am not some biased Nexus hater or something. Everytime someone posts a legitimate complaint about a Nexus product, they get crucified as if there's an angry Nexus mob looking for the next person who dares open their mouth. Disgusting really.
[Nexus 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
^^^^^^

This.

^^^^^^

Has nothing to do with this.

No device ever launched hasn't had flaws. It's a matter of how big they are and how many people are bothered by them (which they can decide for themselves based on what's shared here). And just because a device is a "Nexus" doesn't make it "best." The GN's a great example of that. To your point, at the price the N4 can be had for, it can make up for some shortcomings.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Sure sell it and go back to GNex.
[Nexus 4 General] tyler78:
Comparing a car to a phone? Really?

I've already read and watched every review for N4. I think most of them are the same. They all talk about the same things. They're boring. I already know the specs and everything. Reviews don't give the feeling of daily usage. Users do. And I think that's more important. I've always read what users write and try to decide with what users say. They are the ones who uses these devices night and day for months and years. Not some geek who tries 50 different phones per month.

Edit: Also, it would be easy for me to decide if I could get this device for $350. I'd buy N4 in a heartbeat. But LG is going to sell this device for $750 in my country. Same as S3 and very very close to Note2. So it's hard to decide.
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
I agree with you, that everyone is entitled to an opinion. It's then the responsibility of the reader to extrapolate the information. And yes, I do think it's disgusting some of the behavior I have seen over this phone. It's a shame because some of the same "Android, to hell with iphone guys" are acting the same way that ios fanboys act. They hate the fact that all ios fanboys swear their phones are manufactured in Heaven yet, with the launch of this phone some have stolen a page from their book. But to be honest, that is simply a bi-product of any super-hyped consumer good with as much history as a Nexus or Apple brand.
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
But it's so bad that it's almost troll-like. The OP even says the the N4 "isnt an upgrade from the gnex"... thats not even an opinion. So I respect legit complaints, but I'm with him. Mods please close the thread.
[Nexus 4 General] dc82:
OK, I'm sure you are familiar with analogies...which that was. In no way shape or form am I literally comparing a phone to a car. And yes, the reviews will be largely very similar bc surprise, they're all taking about the same phone. Reviews aren't major motion pictures, not sure they're meant to be "fun"....Some sites offer slightly different perspective and opinion which can HELP to inform you, but, after all it is your opinion that ultimately matters.
[Nexus 4 General] kenjiwing:
I honestly think the biggest thing I appreciated about the N4 are

1) The screen is so NICE compared to my galaxy nexus.. just so much more clear and bright.

2) The phone is super fast.. like I didnt think I would notice it but it just seems much smoother.

3) The fact that I went from a $89 verizon bill to a $30 tmobile bill.. this pretty much made me love it forever. Not being on a contract and having a $30 bill is a amazing feeling.
[Nexus 4 General] bee55:
Hmm..actually when I've tried the phone in a CPW my first impression was how amazing the screen was compared to my SGS3. Text is visibly sharper on the N4's display (unfortunately the pentile matrix is still visible on the S3 to an extent despite the higher resolution) and it's much brighter as well.

I'm looking forward for it to reliably get back in stock now , so I can sell my S3 and get one :P .
[Nexus 4 General] norazi:
i miss the contrast/blacks on the gnex amoled but the clarity of the RGB stripe and high ppi of the n4... ideally i would have a SAMOLED+ with 768p RGB.

im also one of the few people that actually prefer samsungs "cheap plastic"... i use a case anyways and like a lighter phone in my pocket
[Nexus 4 General] aceo07:
Which Qi charger are you using?

It'd be good to know so that we can avoid getting the same one.
[Nexus 4 General] rican408:
I must say I also prefer the "over saturation" of amoled screens. I could care less what real life has to offer. The screen is so colorful I just like it. At the same time I only notice the difference when the screens are right next to each other... I am very happy with my n4.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Honk if you've had an affair with Taylor
[Nexus 4 General] CrazyTomato76:
What kind of battery life are you getting?
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
Average 3 hours screen time. Considering this has a 2100 mah battery and supposedly more power efficient CPU and screen that's disappointing. With the gsm gnex I was getting 3.5 to 4 hour screen time. With the 2000 mah battery you could get 5 hours
[Nexus 4 General] lonz358:
I'll say after a few cycles and a better kernel the battery will be a lot better. Not bad now tho.
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
The display on the 4 is noticeably better than the display if the gnex in terms of sharpness and battery consumption but of course not in colors. Also amoled colors are over saturated for sure.

Miracast is still a very new tech but when it matures this phone will be ready and maybe the qi charging pad you're using is too old? Try a different one.
[Nexus 4 General] thefallen924:
the only thing i like about amoled is the deep blacks. aside from that, the colors do not compare. N4 looks way more sophisticated IMO, which in turn makes me feel like im holding a quality device. Dont get me wrong, i loved amoled at one point, but after switching to the N4 any phone i see that has it looks like a toy.
[Nexus 4 General] CrazyTomato76:
That's about what I'm getting. Seems my S3 had better battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
He just bought it to sell it for profit or is looking for an excusebto sell for profit.You would be smart to not pay the extra he will ask for it even though he believes the screen is so terrible.

I don't have the phone yet, on back order so I cannot comment on it but I have had a gs plus for a long time with the super amoled screen and it is very saturated. I do not know how anyone who is honest and knows what saturation is cannot admit that.

To the guy that said LCD TV's suck. Are you serious? Kind of an exaggeration to say the least.

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[Nexus 4 General] soulz:
Taylor Swift?
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
funny, because i thought the galaxy nexus and s3 had disgustingly oversaturated and weirdly tinted displays
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
Nokia DT-910. It charges for a few minutes, then stops, then charges, then stops. And all the time, the screen goes on and off.

Shame, because I had hoped to finally get wireless charging. I'm sure the LG orb will be our sooner or later, but given the debacle with Google and Galaxy Nexus pogo pin dock, I'm not all that confident.
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
BS - and totally unbelievable that you'd make such a conclusion for me. Did you miss the part where I said I sold my S3 because had ordered the N4? I'm lucky I kept my Gnex around as a backup. I never once imagined I'd sell it so quickly. I also ordered a bumper, $60 Miracast receiver and $70 Qi charger - all for my own phone. Do you think I'd drop $150 on accessories for a phone I planned to sell.
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
Battery life was on par with my S3 - with the apps I run, the N4 (and most of my other devices) last till around 6PM after unplugging at 7AM. I've learned to live with it.

That said, my Nexus 10 just arrived, so all is not lost for me today :D
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Do the light bleed test for me please. Dark room, 100% brightness, black background. Do you have any light shooting out of the corners?
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Seems to me you will make all your money back and still have a bunch of accessories you can either return or sell.

Who knows? Why is it so shocking? Many are buying just to sell for profit?

If you think the screen is worse than the gn than maybe your device is faulty. Perhaps you just like the saturation. It all comes down to personal preference but did you look at any of the reviews? There are screen shots of the screen all over. You can see it does not have the colors that pop like the saturated displays. It still looks very sharp especially when you look at text.

You are right though that I made an assumption about you and I apologize for doing so.

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[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
It is shocking because you clearly didn't read my post and managed to draw a conclusion that was totally false.

I'm sure some are selling for profit - I don't. I buy my phones because I like them. Don't post crap then try and wiggle out of it.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yes I did read your post. I mispoke. I did not mean your reason behind buying was just to sell. It just seemed like you were or are looking for an excuse. Personally I don't care either way. For that reason I do not need to wiggle out of anything. I don't care..

I did make an assumption though and for that I apologize but I find it hard to believe the screen is not an improvement over the gn. Does the screen look like the screen shots or reviews? Of not maybe it is defective?

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[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
Thank you for being so gracious. I'm thinking I'm just too used to the Amoled screens. Some call it crap, *personally*, I like it. I did compare my N4 with one in a store, and it looked the same. One good example of a color I just couldn't deal with was the blue in the Facebook app. On the S3 and GNex, it is really striking blue. On the N4, it is whitish-blue - very little contrast and washed out.

The app drawer is the same - greyish background that didn't show a good contrast with the app names.

I'm very disappointed, because I absolutely love Nexus devices and had hoped to have the trifecta for myself (N7 3G, N10 and N4).
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I hear you and I'm sorry you are unhappy. I love the superamoled screen but to me being a web designer I want the actual colors to be there as the developers wanted them.

That is one thing I always hated about my gs. When ever I would view my own websites I would notice the colors being so much louder than normal. Not bad, just loud, bright.

But again, some really like the bright colors and that is not a bad thing. I would bet you will get used to it though and end up loving it.

Again, I am sorry for being snappy, rude, etc. I have honestly been a bit crabby about all of this. This whole process has really irritated me and I do tend to take it out in my posts occasionally, especially to negative views. I really should not do that.

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[Nexus 4 General] rbrucemtl:
And apparently you have opinions of your own.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Just because you do not like a thread for not mean it should be closed. It is productive to have disagreement sometimes. Just because someone posts a negative does not make them a troll.

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[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
And yet you took some time out of your busy day to respond. How kind of you...

I care - and I care about this community enough to share my thoughts on the phone. Opinionated? Yes, opinions are what help a lot of people make a decision.

Biased? Against what? LG? Screens? How can I be biased about a phone? This isn't the Engadget comments section. I am a hardcore Android lover, so I can't think of a single thing I could be biased about.

Trolling? Pot>Kettle.
[Nexus 4 General] ScottC:
I'm guessing I'm one of them - I actually love the snappy colors on my amoled screen - and Pentile has never bothered me.

In other news - I just got my N10 setup - holy crap that is one amazing display!
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yeah, I almost bought that nex 10 but I really needed a new phone. You are happy with it? It seems so amazing to me. I love that CPU they chose..it is an amazing dual core..

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[Nexus 4 General] aceo07:
OP, which Qi charger did you get?
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
If you look at the facebook blue on any monitor and then check against N4 and SAMOLED I'm sure you'll find N4 is more close to that color.

I switched from Note II, and do not miss that over saturation at all. I'm sure you'll get used to it. I can't stress how I like the sharpness of this IPS.
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
I feel the exact same way.
[Nexus 4 General] mrcanant:
with optemaid

i am pretty happy with it except for the notification led.
[Nexus 4 General] dc211:
Oh damn, I was excited about having a good notification led. Is it not noticeable from across the room?
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
We can't compare screens. The reason is because every screen has different technology. SuperAmoled, IPS, LCD, Blasma. every screen is different. I sold my GS3 for N4. I love Google phones, their phones stays with me for a while. It's nice phone and have a amazing hardware. Faster than GS3. Looks very elegant device. HUGE support for nexus line so do not compare any other phone with it. Note 2 is AMAZING but very big. Nexus 4 is a decent device for all. OP if you don't like your phone eBay is over there you will get what you paid for the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] tyrellcorpnexus:
I really want to play with one and see how it stacks up against the GNex I used to have this summer. (returned to the iPhone with the 5, but getting impatient waiting for jailbreak after having it on every other iPhone and all almost from day 1, if not maybe like 1-month downtime).

And how the screen specifically the screens stacks up against the HTC DNA (gotta go to Verizon to peep that one sometimes). I'm assuming unfavorably.

I really liked the GNex notification light as well. That with LightFlow was incredible. Is LightFlow fully compatible with the N4 hardware as of now?