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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Undervolting is still not working out for me. My n4 keeps rebooting itself when I press save. Like I said in a early post it even reboots when I try saving it on its default settings! Help!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
700mV

---

INTERACTIVE:

above hispeed delay: 15000

go hispeed load: 90

hispeed freq: 1026

min_sample_time: 45000

timer_rate: 30000

target_loads: 80

--

CFQ:

- slice_idle -> 0

- back_seek_max -> 0

- back_seek_penalty -> 1

--

CONSERVATIVE:

98% up_threshold
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] otariq:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I rather have David Moyes he better not go to Chelsea look at all he's accomplished with an average squad on their best day Everton can beat all the top 4. Imagine what Moyes would do with rvp, Rooney, Hernandez, Valencia, kagawa,etc too many good players to name em all lol. If we beat real I think there's a good chance we can go all the way this yr
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
Thanks, I'm using interactive and row so I'm guessing you're using the same?

Cheers,

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stretlow:
Getting a lot more choppy scrolling after updating from r11 to r13
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
I think this is saving you battery life. Can't have both smoothness and battery life. It's a trade off.

It is using the 702Mhz for reading/scrolling instead of going all the way to 1.5Ghz. If you scroll fast enough you will get the CPU up to 1.5Ghz and it will be smooth again.

Edit: If you are talking about the XDA app, it's a crap app to begin with so judge it off of a better optimized app.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whittikins:
Or he could try switching to Ondemand, since that's what he was using before. Or he could change the load frequency to ~1ghz or so to see if that helps. Or he could lower the 60% threshold a bit. There is plenty he can do, and you don't have to choose just 1 or the other.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] _Opiate_:
I think an "Eco" mode would be a great addition to your app Franco. Kind of like what lg did with the opitmus g, theres an Eco mode that when activated only allows the device to use two cores instead of all four. It basically turns it into a dual core device when active.

Anyways with r13 using interactive gov my device is finally using all the frequencies as it should.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
Well exactly, your trying to find a balance... The tradeoff still exists though. Always tweaking to be done :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
Sticking with this kernel and Franco app , other kernels are to complicated and seem more experimental while this oneis more consistent and stable
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cellem:
With r11 and data browsing I saw 36,8°C after 5 minutes and it felt hot on the upper back part of the phone. Franco I am going to try r13 now and have also bought your app and use your RGB settings.. Battery is no good and we have to enjoy our fine phones like you said but any help from you is deeply appreciated man.. Thank you for your efforts :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
I remember when I first got this phone I always thought it felt hot and I also became scared to use it after becoming used to the battery of a Razr Maxx. Now, with Franco doing his thing I never notice my phone getting hot and I definitely don't worry about my battery life. I can't hit the thanks button enough to thank you Franco for all that you're doing for our devices.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SleemLDJ:
Had scrolling lags on r13 with interactive gov being the default.

I changed to ondemand and scrolling seems to be OK now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
I think this is by design of the load step of 702Mhz to save you battery...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bavilo:
So....The App isn't gonna get updated on the AppCenter? I pretty much paid for the App for nothing?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dragooon123:
... who said that?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] v3rk:
I disagree. I first used Franco kernel on the ns then gnex, and it always provided great battery, smoothness and performance.

The hardware on this phone is so great that the stock kernel does well enough for now. Smooth with decent battery (better than I'd got on gnex with custom kernels). I can't wait to see how this kernel develops. Got Franco kernel updater on standby until I see a milestone
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yvyv:
help please..

What should I be setting my maximun / minimun cpu frequency on a stock rom for decent battery life ?

what about current governor ? do I need to set it to anything ?

Pardon my ignorance guys, newbie learning here..

Thank you all in advanced.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bavilo:
Since I see no reaction to this question, and only the playstore version hasn't gotten the update....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stretlow:
Yeah ill have to do some testing when i get home, not having a pop just an observation and personal feedback of my experience thats all.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] folkg:
The play store app was update a couple of days ago, and then again just today...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] netjunkie51:
stay calm

Wow... No reaction after 80 minutes. You're really patient... Stay calm and wait for an update...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bavilo:
80 mins?

Oh...so the app has gotten ANOTHER update in the playstore? It's not 8.2 anymore?

Yea I've been waiting a few days for the update to 8.2 on the appcenter...So it finally supports my Nexus 4...

Read before you make absurd assumptions of me being impatient...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ensifolk:
@Franco

Purchased the app from Google Play, whenever I download it it gives an error ? Wiped my google play cache and data, and poof! The purchase is gone. Any help?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aznxk3vi17:
With the suggested tweaks mentioned previously by Franco, does this mean that CFQ is becoming the new default governor? I honestly never notice too much difference between CFQ and ROW, but it'd be nice to know the impetus for the change.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fluffenforliberty:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Both conservative and interactive is stutters for me on r61 but Ondemand is ****ing like walking on sunshine with shoes made out of butter, don't know how this will affect battery though
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
I

think

the combos to be tested are:

interactive + row

conservative + cfq
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] persheshhater:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Can I see some battery life screenshot instead of posts saying i got this much screen on time and i got that much screen on time?

@the guy that said he got a refund for francos apk, dude who gives a **** about those $5 u got back u sleazebag.

As it regards david moyes, i think he is like arsene wenger, a loser:) (they are good at working with young players then selling them at high price, but do not know how to win trophies)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I am still running r53 because I think my style is centered around hotplugging because I'm a reader.

I'd love to keep up with the latest build though!

Just curious if we could find a happy middle ground between r61(no hotplugging) and r53(aggressive hotplugging). simply turning off 2 cores could save some battery if one is reading or if the cores have no tasks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
i thought cfq was to b tested for both

---------- Post added at 01:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:08 PM ----------

Y cant u read without hot plugging? If u have a sec im interested.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I think Franco had proven that hotplugging isn't needed. My battery hasn't suffered at all and my phone is faaaast

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] joho5:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What is a very short run down of what hotplugging is? I'm on 53 now and very new to a nexus device and this kernel. Would anyone suggest up or downgrading?

I want a quick snappy phone with the best battery life I can. I know a lot of that has to do with apps and per individual
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
Was loving the finely tuned interactive 61 test, seemed to be the pinnacle of battery and performance

Unfortunately my device died earlier today and is now just a dead cold brick - QHUSB_DLOAD :( RMA Ordered 29/01/2013

Intend to watch this thread closely until RMA device arrives.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DutchDogg54:
Hotplugging is simply the off-lining of cores to help with battery life. Turns out that for most everyone leaving all 4 cores on at low frequency is costing less battery than having to on-line a core when need be - that is the battery intensive action.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DV1510:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Woot :eek: bricked your N4. Sorry to read that.

Please share your latest settings if you remember

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Hot plug is disabling cores when the phone doesn't process a large number of processes is the simplest way to put it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
settings were those given in thread on last page....interactive and cfq
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
brick out of the blue or while benchmarking?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

.....now everyone is scared......

sent from my r53-Franco nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Next test will be with 2 cores online instead of 4 - that way we can be sure if more cores equal extra power draining or not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KingBeike:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Everything is blazing fast and a good battery Wirth r61. But apps like tapatalk and xda APP are still very laggy. I think it must be an APP Problem because everything else is smooth. But are there some settings to make it smoother?

Using interactive + deadline Wirth 1026 highspeed freq and 75% gohighspeedload...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
never benchmarked in my life, never saw the point, the phone always felt blisteringly fast, didnt need a number to tell me that.

After working fine for half of the day, didn't even try get round to trying UV'ing the phone just crashed out FC'ing all over the shop and simply never came back on after a reboot. Cold dead soulless glass block.

Edit: not in any way apportioning blame to kernel.....so no need to be concerned.....just one of those things

Edit: like the idea of two,cores, curious to see results....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Xda App is tapatalk, and yes they will always be laggy -.- thats the way they are programmed.

I still had some lags on those using 1512Mhz min/max, you can't get faster than that.

Does anyone know a good alternative that is less laggy? :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Turning on force gpu rendering helps a lot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] javacody:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

No. I read your crap. Unfortunately. One who thinks the world owes them everything on a silver platter...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KingBeike:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Thanks, it really helps alot !

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Just an advanced warning this may break some apps so if you run into trouble try disabling this again and retrying before reporting issues :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
Excellent news, I noticed screen on drain to be higher in r61 vs r53. Perhaps the cores are the contributing factor.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ansysic:
My prayers have been answered!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] EstarlinMReyes:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Which is the best configuration for interactive and the UV?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using ParanoidAndroid + Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] manjee:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Thank you I couldn't remember the cfq settings that I lost while playing with the io schedulers.

The effect of the cfq tweak is really striking with interactive. Oo

The phone is a lot snappier than with row or cfq default setting.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Interesting....

sent from my r53-Franco nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hallucynogenyc:
I had returned to stock for a while, last I tried was r34. Just flashed r53 this morning, went to play Ingress for a while and noticed data drops every single time I tried to do anything, trying to play was painful so I flashed back the stock kernel.

PD: By data drops I mean that suddenly, the icon is blue with the H of HSDPA, but the data doesn't work. It goes down to 3G, still doesn't work, then back to HSDPA, and after a couple of seconds it works again. This 10 seconds process would repeat over and over.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I never thought Conservative could be this smooth.. Great job Franco. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scandalousk:
Edit: never mind I'm a total idiot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SubwayJrd:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I've seen this same thing intermittently while using my phone in general. Confirmed that data stops for about 10 seconds, then just comes back.

r53 and r61 both have done this to me. CM 10.1 Milestone is my ROM.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] itpromike:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Another warning, turning this on will make your phone get hot when doing random things like using xda for example or using pulse news reader.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aMpeX:
just wanted to throw in here that my fast-binned chip is stable with a -175mV UV across the board. Haven't tried undervolting further. Maybe tomorrow ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ManOnTheMoon:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

R61 is heating my phone up pretty good after a day of use. I'm not sure why. No wakelocks or anything. I don't like hotpulling for some reason. I'll be on r53. I love the settings on that. Uv is just not my thing
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Well that's not necessarily true. He just traded out one loss for another and arrived at (in practice) the same place.

I believe there is room for improvements! I do believe hotplugging is costly.but if keeping 4 cores online is the same. We might do better with 2 cores :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thats what we're going to test on r62-test. Coming up in 15m.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] resynx:
Nice! :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Same happens here, data works great right after flash of kernel for about a day then data issues like u 2 r saying, reboot fixes....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Any teasers on what you'll be implementing on 62? (aside from the obvious with the cores)

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cheapskate88:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

So are you suggesting that this is a problem specific to this kernel? That you're not seeing this with stock cm?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Nothing, I want a clean test between 4 cores and 2 cores. I will just set up the interactive tunables I shared a few pages back, nothing else.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
hey franco are you also gonna be dropping the min cpu voltage to 700 from 750 too? Or was this already done? Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
No happens on more than just francos to me,. Only one it dont happen to me on is stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ultma75:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I can only get mine to -125mV
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Ok guys r62-test is up. After boot up all cores are online to make it boot fast. Just screen off/on and then you'll have a dual core. Other than that I set up the Interactive settings I posted few pages back. Lets see hows the battery vs 4-cores.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
running well so far!

Testing with -175 UV across.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Really? What were you testing besides interactive tunables
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tkalli:
Thanks, Franco

Flashed and testing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
High speed freq ... 702?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ObihoernchenDE:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

R62 with cpufreq_bench? :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tmhiott:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Been running 61, battery has been decent and phone is quick. Uv'd by -125mV all the way around.

It hadn't run hot all day, until I was just using the Espn app to use gamecast/keep up with a score on a basketball game. I guess the app is just a hog or something.

Thanks Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
wait this is not permanently disabling 2 cores right? It will still 'hotplug' 2 cores if needed?? Just wondering...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmudrick:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Flashing r62 now. Have had poorest battery life yet on 61 (conservative CFQ) : 4:30 screen/14 (all WiFi) vs. best of 5:45/19:45 on r47 interactive, same apps and usage.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

On r62, hi speed freq is 702 not 1026

Other then that, I will give this versions a thorough battery testing
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Just want to make sure with #62 it seems that I can't make CPU2 and CPU3 online no matter how I stress the phone.

Is this the testing purpose of #62?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
Damn bro your poorest battery stat is higher then my best...but battery has gotten better for me on r61...hoping r62 will do the same.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
I noticed this as well. Was this intentional franco?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmudrick:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

We all have different usages, not much sense comparing between phones. My own usage is quite consistent.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Ups, my mistake. Reuploading it now with 1026MHz.

2 cores are always offline when screen on, no matter what happens. This is intentional to test against 4-cores online all times in r61-test.

EDIT: Done.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Not yet, after this r62-test ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trailblazerz11:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Don't notice much difference so far in smoothness on simple tasks, UI probably doesn't efficiently use all 4 cores anyways.

I guess direction we heading in with testing is 2 cores always online on screen on since core1 hotplug on was the most common before and likely the most drain.

then set a higher threshold for core2 core3 online?

Obviously more testing to be done, gonna see how much battery improvement today, should be quite noticeable :)

I was always impressed with krait cores, dual core seemed great on my sisters phone, quad seems quite overkill from testing dual core so far, crazy :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ObihoernchenDE:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

You are the best :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
None of my cores seem have gone offline, I'm using the latest r62 kernel now...

As for the 1350 MHz underclock, that was done intentionally. I have no need for it to go full speed at 1.5 GHz.

Cheers,

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] comminus:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Turn off screen, turn back on.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Reading helps.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] joho5:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

This is totally a noob question so please don't bash, but what do you mean using 2 cores instead of 4? Like always? Or only on certain loads?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Wmgallagher:
Im having the same issue. I have turned my screen on and off multiple times. It drops to 2 cores for a short time but then goes back to 4 cores. I have even re-downloaded the kernel and reinstalled it and it still stays on 4 cores also
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] siscim23:
Just a few posts above yours...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Scottyfer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Except during boot, it will always be two cores.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ulver:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

No issues here. Franco app reports only 2 cores on at idle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trident167:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

No issues here so far. Feels just as smooth. Two cores off with interactive and UV by 100.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tilllt:
nightly #53 - log cluttered with "Unexpected value from nativeGetEnabledTags: 0"

Hi people,

today i installed this franco kernel nightly #53 on my nexus and since then my log is cluttered with this message:

"Unexpected value from nativeGetEnabledTags: 0"

i couldnt find anything about this error, but i guess around 7000 log entries per minute cannot be seriously good for the performance of the phone. Is there anything to do about this?

thanks,

t.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39723
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceroglu:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Franco what is the minimum UV? Is it still at 750mv?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tilllt:
Ok, so right now there is no fix for this. Does that mean it's advisable to go back to some kernel that does not show this behaviour and wait for a fix or will the advantages of the #53 kernel outweigh this bug anyhow?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Godaemon:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What's the minimum UV 750 ? Currently I have my 384 at 700mv and want to try further to 675 maybe that's why I am asking thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Before I install r62, out of curiosity, are 2 cores forced to be offline or will they scale on when needed? (Or is that planned for later release haha)

I realize that you said Franco that it forces 2 on always no matter what, hard to be sure of that implies never 1 always two, or never 4 always 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
62

Feels the same or snapper then 61 so far, if this is tru and battery better whats your plan franco?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

The latter. Everyone (almost) is on 63 for a reason. ;)

P. S. It doesn't have any negative impact anyway if I remember correctly; was a couple of weeks ago we were talking about it..