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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Oh hey Peter! :p

All settings here:

Kernel: 3.4.0-franco.Kernel-nightly#29

Max Frequency: 1242 MHz

Min Frequency: 384 MHz

Governor: interactive

IO Scheduler: row

Sent from franco.Kernel updater app

A Nexus Connoisseur!! AOSPA!! Franco Kernel!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Most Detailed Bug Report Of The Day. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
You just saved me the trouble:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hrithan2020:
Is that working for you? Throws me an error after going to recovery mode.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superleeds27:
You might have a brilliant device. I don't think I've seen anyone else achieve 6 Hours + screen time. I've had my phone a week now, most I've had on Faux is 4Hr 45Min
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mpttrung:
How about brightless ? Auto or not ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] joostburg:
50 hours 3.5 hours screentime r28 with minco 8% left :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Utacka:
im getting about 6 hours screentime on aospa + r28.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
20%

A Nexus Connoisseur!! AOSPA!! Franco Kernel!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
games

I don't play games so I can't comment on performance of them , but reading reviews from games mentioned here its ****ty review after review , I wouldn't blame kernel for 100% of issues when people that don't even hack there phones having same issues ;) . just my opinion
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
I have on stock kernel.... testing franvos kernrl now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thank you sir, but I still give 0 ****s.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
It's all stock settings
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
Hi Franco, I know you don't game on the device. But if you really dont have the intention to tune kernel to run smooth on heavy graphic games, at least please let us know.

It is quite possible r29 lags more than previous builds on games. I just wanted to give you what a user feels though I don't see I have any logs or documents I can give you.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
I think his future plan for forcing 2 cores when GPU is maxed should help with game smoothness
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Corintio:
Same here. Back to stock.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
thanks

just thought, does the r29 change this have impact on gaming too?

"Instead of onlining the second core when the screen is touched, it only onlines if the user is swiping 100 pixels off the original touch"

Let's say I just tap the screen constantly instead of swiping. Just brain storming.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] siscim23:
Screen interaction isn't the only thing that ramps up the CPU. If something needs processing, the CPU is going go do it. Throttling may be hindering the performance though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 3rdeyer:
This device only runs graphically intensive games smoothly if the governor is set to interactive and very little tweaks are made to its scaling properties, plus the thermal guard control. When using default internactive governor the device gets warm under heavy -and even not so heavy- load. Franco's kernel and some others prevent the device from reaching these high temperatures which causes the cpu to throttle and automatically lower its speeds and thus performance and temp. Although I wish for a cool device, I think the phone can easily handle temperatures of 48 to 52 degrees during full load (games). Android games tend to rely very much on CPU power, whereas the GPU in the N4 can produce decent frame rates in virtually any game, it is the CPU that causes the stutters and hickups.

High temps might decrease the lifespan of the chip, but that will only be noticable in years, when the device is likely to be already substituded. But there are already several other kernels available that allow people to increase their gaming performance at the cost of higher temps. I respect Franco's tactics and I am sure that game performance will improve over time by implementing several neat scaling properties.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
Perhaps, make a gaming profile that you can set via the app so that gamers are satisfied and can just enable it when they need the boost while the rest of us are happy with the battery conservation that the default kernel presents?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roscopcoletrain:
Cant speak for others but Ive had zero lag playing games. Im not a big gammer, but NFS:MW plays perfectly. Has on every nightly Ive tried.

just me $.02
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jkoljo:
And when you are swiping on something very cpu intensive, the device could lag for about 100px and become smooth only after that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whittikins:
You should go ahead and include the features you're disabling or the governor settings you're using (max speed, etc) since that's obviously not what people can expect to get with Franco's default settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alcurtis93:
Sorry Franco just keeping it real
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
On the gaming thing; maybe he wants to have it safe for everyone and avoid what happened (and still happens) when phones hit peak values under heavy CPU & GPU load? Look at all bricked phones while benchmarking with antutu! Can't you peak like that while on graphically heavy games?? Well then!

Sit back & chill, he knows what he's doing. If the kernel doesn't support your heavy game, you know what to do. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Koraboros:
Mine plays fine for like 15 minutes. After that the throttling occurs. It's not even at high temps, only around 60 C.

Also, Franco said he is implementing a user controllable thermal throttling limit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jiia:
Franco app used to have thermal throttling toggle in Galaxy Nexus. I wish he would implement a toggle in Nexus 4 version to switch between franco's and stock temperature limits. Quite a few people seem to be unhappy with the lowered temperature limit, including myself. I can see the performance go down in simple 2D games when the device starts getting warm

Edit: Oh he's already planning on doing that. Thanks Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] flxdms:
r29 is perfect for my daily usage. My phone isn't a PS3, and I do not use it that way. Thank you franco, I love your dedication. I have yet to find a reason to part ways with this kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
Hey Franco,

I find it pretty awesome that you want to make a milestone, but every time you think the kernel is ready for it, you find new ways to make it even better! :D

Thanks for everything, this is truly the best kernel for the Nexus 4! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
For me the only problem with the newest one is tons of suspend_backoff in kernel wakelock :/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
Guy's there does exist faux kernel which has gpu over clock, gpu control, UV, and other things... It's a great kernel too.

Franco has a completely different approach to making a kernel. (which I prefer) Either help out or don't say anything at all.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
60 C is pretty hot. I remember my SGS 2 would just crash before it even reached those temperatures.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I see the kernel only onlines 1 core unless swiping is invoked in which 2 cores go online.

So when do 4 cores come online?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
When the load is great enough
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
which is when?

and i'm curious how this compares to the stock kernel? does that keep 4 cores on actively?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
Flash the stock kernel and find out for yourself

Sent from my Franco'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kcls:
Just want to bump this.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if your sgs2 crashed before reaching 60C than it was just weaksauce. 60C isnt that hot, lol

(sorry francisco, had to feed my troll today :) )
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Eh, hard to say, intensive games and apps should force all 4 online in theory, but throttling here is a bit more thought out than stock so it'll offline cores earlier
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
That's hot for my laptop. Feels worse in smaller electronics like this.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KyraOfFire:
At first I thought R29 was fine, and then I actually used the phone... major slow down O_O

Chat client and games is a pain now ~ ~
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tmcpnet:
I'm blown away with r29. Thank you Franco :thumbup:

http://db.tt/nM9rzJgo
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fozzie:
Great battery with r29 & phone still super smooth.

16hr on battery and still 40% left (and I have loads of background services & updating).

I'm normally plugging in the charger at this stage!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
the key word is feels. feels doesnt give a temperature. it can feel hot at 37C(body temp) too, but in reality you still have a ways to go before the temperature is dangerous to the device.

heres a good experiment to show you what i mean about how feel can be very inaccurate. grab a glass of ice water, a glass of hot water, and a glass of room temperature water. stick on hand in the ice water for 2 minutes, then stick the other hand in hot water at the same time for 2 minutes. immediately after, stick both hand into the room temperature water at the same time. the hand that was in the cold water, will feel like the room temperature water is hot. and the hand that was in the hot water will feel like the room temperature water is cold, even though both hands are in the same temperature water at the same time.

i normally take my nexus 7 and galaxy nexus to the safety shutdown temps(n7 is 100C, galaxy nexus is 110C) when stressing them on purpose. 60C+ would be a normal temp when playing graphically intensive games.

ok, sorry for the interruption, now back to the regularly scheduled programming..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] singlebyte:
R29 working great. Battery is great and super smooth.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ace42:
This works since the hand in cold water is losing its heat as it travels to the cold water. If you have a thermom youll see the cold water changed temp after the 2min interval. And for the other hand it's gaining heat from the hot water so when you stick both in room temp the cold hand thinks the water is warmer.

Anyway, had anyone had issues going from faux to this Franco or vice versa?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
stock

My experience and 100's on xda Stock kernel is junk , all it did was throttle and heat up and kill battery even with light use , 1500 slot should have been not existant because it never used it or cores 3-4 more than few min/seconds , I can't make Franco kernel get hot no matter what I do , I just tryed grand theft auto that's been mentioned here to see what u guys are talking about , plugged into charger even and it didn't heat up for **** no throttle no heat worked fine ....

Aokp ROM is what I run and works flawless
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
:silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XxKillerKev7xX:
Flashed R29 stuck on bootloop :( Any advice tried to flash stock still bootlooping....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] danielvc:
wipe cache/dalvik
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] James086:
This.

An Ivy Bridge chip (22nm) in a laptop has a thermal shutdown temperature of 105C, it will probably throttle at about 95C.

I don't know the max temperature for the Snapdragon S4 Pro but 60C would be well within the limit. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
reflash your rom. if still a no go, wipe data(factory reset) and reflash your rom.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m3lover1:
I had that once a while ago on one of the past versions from Franco. At first I quickly thought it was the kernel. But I spent a long time trying to find the cause of it because it caused my phone to drain 30% in an hour. Took a long time but in my case found out it was due to the WiFi connection for some reason. It was connected to the 5g network and once I changed it to the regular WiFi, monitored it and suspend back off was gone. No idea why my 5g network would cause that.

Also from what I gathered on xda And the net it could be many different issues that cause the suspend back off. So in your case it quite possibly might be something else that is causing you to have that wake lock.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XxKillerKev7xX:
How do you do that from fastboot??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
its done in recovery, not fastboot / bootloader.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XxKillerKev7xX:
I flashed through fastboot tho...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Or flash ROM then kernel from same flash
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
it doesnt matter where you flash it. go into recovery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XxKillerKev7xX:
Got it to work!!! :D For all of you that are in boot loop this is what I did..

-Flashed R29

-Nexus 4 Toolkit boot to Clockwork Mod

- WIpe Cache

- Wipe Davick Cache

-Fix Permissions

Boot :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rbanaco:
Games started to play well (big test with GTA vice city) but after a while gets some breaks...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
I did a few pages back. Interactive 384 - 1242 with ROW scheduler and just latitude disabled.

I just had to scroll up and check I was in the Franco kernel thread because I saw Simms name pop up a few times :p

A Nexus Connoisseur!! AOSPA!! Franco Kernel!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
This is definitely due to thermal throttling. Same attributes in stock kernel. Wait until franco implements his thermal controls. Right now we are just at safe values

Edit: tell a lie, franco is using completely different thermal controller from the kernel that's better.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HyperM3:
Back to R23. 29 ate too much battery for me and had too many data drops/slow connectivity.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] estallings15:
So try r29? It was released for a reason.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
And since u could duplicate u sent him logs to help out ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HyperM3:
It was 29. I typed 28 too fast and edited it right before you responded.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HyperM3:
Dupcate what? I see people getting logs and whatnot. Its not like Im watching my phone every second, I actually have work to do during the day. I dont know how to get logs nor do I have the time to go digging. Im just seeing what Im seeing. I have no problem with his kernals as I have used them in the past with great success. As I have tried each one of these consecutively, I found R23 to work the best for me. YMMV.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
User Error ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HyperM3:
Lol, cus it's easy to misuse a kernel... id10t error right?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
im omnipresent :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rbanaco:
People should use what they think it's better for them... 29 isnt the best it's a little laggish specially in what games is concerned
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jjcandroid2012:
Franco thanks for the great kernel... Please don't leave because of all the mornonic comments
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Never called u an .... But your first post is kinda like bringing your car in for repairs , hey its doing this but I'm not going to tell u how to duplicate my issue or give u any other information but please fix it , I'll just go drive my other car till then I get your at work so not easy to do ATM .... Just saying , getting a log is not that hard pretty basic **** , your log could make kernel better for u me and everyone else Here .. All I'm saying/ment and yes its 100% my opinion . I've tied this thread up enough sorry :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Get an N4 man! I wanna see your benchmarks Lol! But I know hurricane sandy wasn't too kind to you so hopefully you got everything under control now!

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
its almost all under control, thanks.

the problem is finding one, at the right price, since google play will have it sold out forever. im not about to pay tmobiles price for it($500 + tax) or ebays/craiglist/amazons over inflated prices.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Is this good guys???

I play some and some youtube too...

EDIT: UPLOADED WRONG PICS
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Good to hear! You'll get one eventually! No hurry

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
well its hard to monitor the cores. the only way i know is to watch in the Franco Kernel Updater, and it's hard to switch between that and a game back and forth.

Is there something that can help monitor say in the notification bar and indicate the speeds and cores that are online currently?

Furthermore can you even monitor these things on the Stock Kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CaspaTheGhost:
Same here, not a big gamer but no problems with half hour on NFS for me.

I did notice that after flashing R29 and during the course of the whole day, I had a few data freezes, grey bars a couple times and at one point whilst on the tube I lost signal totally! :eek:

I'm British so for those that aren't accustomed to it and have no knowledge of the London underground, that paragraph was sarcasm brought on by the ridiculous posts saying similar. :banghead:

People put far too much faith in their networks performance.

We need prolonged testing.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
This are the right pictures

What do you guys think????
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
you probably need to thank francisco for that, since i was considering not getting one. but hes persistent.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleys121:
r29 sips on the battery gently with a pinky up. Loving this iteration. 20% increase at least. Good work! Noticeably cooler as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cheapskate88:
Looks sexy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
don't worry! it will be up soon! then you can enjoy the nexus 4 with us! :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
You can monitor with this app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw

Sent from my Franco'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
I'm getting wild fluctuations in reception (1 bar to 5) without doing anything.... Which log would be helpful? I'm unsure if kmsg would show this
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
What does that matter, what we think..?

Are you happy, is it enough for your usage, enough for you to come back to the charger? If 3 X yes then you're good to go.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
If anybody deserves it, it's you bud! Hopefully sooner rather than later!

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jackierobinson:
Does any Nexus 4 Kernel allow adjustments to mic gain? The Nexus 4 has a very distorted mic in apps like WeChat. Too much mic gain.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XupModz:
Battery life<3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Don't think so, not yet. I tried three so far, none has it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jackierobinson:
Nuts!

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I intend to make the kernel run fine on every scenarios, but that takes time and testing, Every iteration I try to make things better and better for everyone - I don't simply go to somewhere and cherry-pick patches I'm actually coding some things and that takes time. Look how far we've got with barely 1 month of work? In the Galaxy Nexus after 1 month of having the device I wasn't even near of how this kernel's state is. I'm also not a machine, I do this on my free time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] estallings15:
And 99% of us both realize that and very much appreciate your efforts. Don't let the 1% get to you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
i wasn't pushing and i apologize if you saw it the wrong way

i said this merely because you said you give 0 xxxx to what someone said. haa

thanks man

you know i've been around for this kernel for some time already and likely will still be around
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
56 minutes screen time with 90% left

WTF!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CaspaTheGhost:
How long has it been happening? Is it in multiple areas? Network issue?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
Settings? I'm at 50% with a little over an hour. Also, what were you doing in that hour if you don't mind me asking? ;p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] NoLunchBox_:
Give it a few days :) you'll get there
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Stock settings on Wi-Fi. Just browsing and tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Thats a little bit low in my humble opinion....i got almost 5 hours of screen time

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
Ah, okay. When I'm just browsing on wifi my battery lasts forever so fair enough.

---------- Post added at 02:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 AM ----------

Thanks, but I've actually been on this kernel since r14. :p Everyone else always seems to get better battery than me, but it may just be because of my bad signal. I spend my days at school and At&t really has awful coverage.

---------- Post added at 02:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:13 AM ----------

Okay, since I'm on a roll with these screen time questions, I guess I'll ask: What did you do to get five hours?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SchmilK:
The hell its not! Change your governor to Performance if you feel its not smooth enough. Using CrossfireX ROM and Franco kernel I hit 2180 on geekbench2. Stock ROM and kernel is 1600.

I play Modern Combat 4 online all the time with no lag and the governor is set for interactive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Nothing, yesterday i was all stock and getting 5 hours, then i flashed this kernel and today i tested and that was the result.... Stock rom and this kernel

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
Thanks. Do you have Google Now enabled? Sync? Google+? Facebook? Those are all the apps I know that I have are battery hogs. :p

EDIT: I have attached a BBS log. It's not for the full day because I flashed a new kernel and rebooted, but it should be okay. My guess is my bad signal took quite a bit of battery. I don't know how to properly read a log yet though.

Also, should I disable Google+ background data? What will I lose? Instant upload?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] enviii:
Links seem to be down atm. Anyone else notice this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
Works fine here

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] enviii:
Just came back up again. Back to flashing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Sync is on...gmail, hotmail, facebook twitter wahtsapp viber are installed but im not using google now nor google+......but the first apps i wrote about are syncng every 30 minutes

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