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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] occtec:
So you are saying that faux apps won't work on this kernel? Bummer I purchased both sound and display apps as they were recommended to me :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Someone here recommend those apps for this kernel? Ya sorry they wont work, completely different kernel than faux. U can manually set everything in this kernel threw terminal and if u like buy the app to make things easy, . If i was u id make a backup install this kernel use it for a day and see if u like before u worry bout all the details
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Why should them work? They are made by Faux to his kernel, as Franco's is tailored for his own...

I feel you don't have clear what you are taking about. Custom kernels are tweak that some smart people (thanks be given to them!) add to a basis of stock kernel. Some of them change many things, some of then just a few. Some of them are more interested in battery efficiency, some in powerful performance, some in sound/color... Even some, in other devices, in double boot stock/custom ROM. Each dev has it's own ideas of what he is looking for, and how to get it. Sometimes they can borrow some code from one another. Buy mainly each one search for its own solutions, that give him what he's trying to get. So, they are different, and they use different files to their different tweaks.

The apps, when they offer them, are just tailored to their own kernel, offering you more comfort for the tweaks (no use of terminal), and as a way to show your gratitude to their work by buying it.

Franco Kernel is great and his app is so! Probably Faux also, I've never tried. And there are more. Read their threads and choose the one you think fits your needs. Ore try any of them and compare. But just be careful of toy change among some of them. Franco does not use the same ramdisk, fire example, so you have to return to stock before changing into another kernel (just search for that, you'll find).

Personally, I'm extremely happy with Franco's. I would recommend. :thumbup:

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] speedypoint:
Franco fixed it, so that you do not have to flash stock more than three months back.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
view the OP through the browser on phone, using web view our copy URL options, banana!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] occtec:
Hey nachordez, thanks for the heads up. I do know about kernels this noob type of question really was my bad. Don't know what I was thinking when I asked about faux apps ofcourse they will only work with faux kernel I guess what I was really trying to ask was more so about which app would be best for display change not realizing that in the process instead of downloading the free Franco display app I purchased faux instead :banghead: my mistake. I guess all the different kernels I have checked out today I really just didn't put two and two together and made this mistake which has caused a little controversy on this forum I can see. Relax guys, and thanks once again to all that took the time to clear this up.

Have a great weekend & a huge thanks to Francisco for all his great effort & a fantastic kernel.

Cheers :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Really? I did skip that!

Thanks :thumbup:

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dohllmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chris_n00bz:
Just curious if someone could explain any relation between kernel and RAM efficiency. I'm using Xenon 11.1 with Franco's M3, r162 and r163 and noted that when using r163 my phone use less RAM for the similar amount of activities and phone settings (ie. 1.2 GB free in r163 vs 1.0 GB free in M3 and r162 when my phone is idle. Is it only my imagination or kernel indeed has something with memory usage? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Cuzz1369:
I was always under the impression that the the ROM handles everything to do with ram. I don't think it has anything to do with the kernel. It really depends on open apps and apps running in the background.

Carbonized and francofied N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aventu:
First battery results with my mod, give it a try.

Not bad I think with normal frequency all the time, wlan only, some gaming and airplane mode over night.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TimV_:
Can I use the CM10.1 Preformance settings to configure this kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] manulemaboul:
Got weird bugs on franco kernel lately

:p

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
Yeah.. those are ants. It's expected behavior. They get attracted to sweet stuff
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mlynch01:
All I keep hearing is about how good this kernel is so I am gonna give it a shot. I hope it lives up to the hype!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chris_n00bz:
I thought so, that's why it's quite puzzling. I didn't change anything at all nor install any new apps. Well, since it's getting better, I am quite happy. Just curious and wondering if anyone can enlighten me about it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
this is just a picture not real bugs.. :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djpry:
Battery life is ammazing....loving it

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] limeaide:
Just a bit OT but I see people talking about putting the phone in airplane mode while sleeping. Why?

I dont have a home phone so my mobile is my main line of communication. So I have to leave it functioning as a phone overnight.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tkalli:
I don't put my phone in airplane mode at night.

My phone checks email and wifi is running.

I still have great battery life.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bboran:
How are we using these mods?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Yes you can, but only a few basic things are configurable. Franco's and other kernel configuration apps have many more options.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Im not talking **** but I didn't do any of that airplane mode or mods or anything else, and i got better battery OC'ed with Franco 163 with similar use
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Just pushed a new beta app update which allows backing up and importing per app modes that were backed up before. This is one of the last features before getting ready for production release. Should take a little until Google servers refresh for the new update to be available. Let me know when you test this new code and any bugs you find.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheByteSmasher:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] have you given any thought to making the app able to capture last_kmsg in a txt form so there is no excuse for people not to post?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tlf55:
When will the beta app goes stable for who doesn't apply to the beta test ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] realfelix:
Why ask why dont just apply?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hypoxic1:
Don't let the word "beta" scare you regarding this FKU app. I've been testing them & they are stable, with very few bugs. You're SO missing out on the per-app feature! DOWNLOAD IT NOW!:good:

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Are you undervolting? I ask because the moment you undervolt, those signal bars tend to prefer the gray colour. Mine are NEVER gray and I do NOT undervolt. Stability far outweighs performance. And your battery life seriously does not look that spectacular, honestly. I don't use airplane mode ever... even on the airplane!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
What settings are you guys using for per app? And defaults
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
This dose not answer your question but the beta is flawless if u want try now, when there are bugs he fixes them same day usually

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Since we all have different apps installed that question cant really be answered, its 100% specific to the user and what u want
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
Do you have an example where per app may be useful?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Agreed :D

Under volting has nothing to do with gray bars and will not cause them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
For ex: if you have underclocked CPU and GPU, you'll need per app for gaiming

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hypoxic1:
Here's what I did:

- Use some sort of system monitor floating window to view cores & frequencies

- Take a look at the mV required at each frequency. I find 1188 runs pretty much everything I need.

- Keep in mind that onlining/offlining cores is expensive (battery). With that in mind, how often are you seeing the remaining 2 cores come online?

- Adjust hotplug & frequency value accordingly. Keep in mind the mV to frequency "ratio" in addition to the rate at which all 4 cores go online.

- I tried to stay close to 70 hotplug, as that is an efficient value.

- Set touch input boost to 702 & suspend or sleep to 594.

Regarding GPU, I use 2 settings - 128 & 400. By default, 128 & on an 'obvious' app I use 400.

I'm managing to easily get through a full day and still have 20-50% battery left when I put it on the charger at bedtime. I find it to be a fine balance in battery life vs. performance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
As soon as its ready.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
This r163 is the best so far.... Smooth &battery life..only -100uv and some preapp uc:D

N4 Revolution&Demolition&NBK
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rusak2:
Hi,

after flashing should I chage something? Are the default settings optimal?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Run default settings for a while to get an idea of performance and battery. It'll give you baseline to compare to for when you experiment with different settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Beta is live...

Looking cleaner and cleaner franco very nice, i like the simple clean look
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 777.300:
Franco,

Thanks for your great kernel.

Installed it two days ago on my Nexus 4 running CM 10.1.2.

All working fine and smooth and batt live is great.

Bought your FKU app, also great work.

Very happy with this setup.

Harald

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jasonwc:
You might want to disable automatic location updates in latitude. It uses a ton of battery life and is pointless.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
has anyone had an issue with their phone not waking up when the press the power button? sometimes when i press my power button, the screen comes on and goes right back off as if it is stuck in deep sleep or something...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jasonwc:
You'll see it under kernel wakelocks.

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Are you using the ondemand scheduler or interactive? I noticed that the wake locks were a lot higher with ondemand.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
No more than 15 secs, don't wipe

Not at all, whether governor it's ondemand or interactive
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] roblorduk:
Good work Franco even smoother on r23 using ROW. Happy new year :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
Does this mean anything? Power manager service has a orange question mark next to it. Not sure if that means anything.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
heat

23 is flawless , no heat , no lag , just fast and smooth , battery drain very slow . anyone with issues put back to stock Franco settings ;) or at least mention the settings u changed to help him out with your issues .

try using stock settings for a day before changing everything that way u have something to compare to , bet ull find out your settings suck ;)

KIDDING !!!;)

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Every once in a while yes , have to press 2-3 times but I don't like wake up right away either sometimes ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
Mine is worst than that. I'll press it and the screen just flashes and that's it. I cant use the phone.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Press on the question mark... :D you'll get to a help page.

It just indicates if there is a help page available for an entry.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Try reflash your ROM then this kernel back to back from recovery , maybe something got gummed up , if that don't work personally I would make a backup and FULL wipe , I've read just about every page of this forum and me and u I THINK are only ones that have mentioned this , I don't think kernel or ROM issue , just time for wipe

Talking from past experience with crack flashing a full wipe normally fixes werid **** specially if others dont have issue
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
guess ill do that. thanks. i think im just going to go back to stock and run kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pac213:
Out of Topic.

Happy New year to all of you guys! it's 2013 here in my country. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
You can click on it and it takes you to a website explaining what it is
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
What ROM u using ? Try roman's aokp beta , I've been using it and Franco since they both came out and have 99% no issues with ROM , only issues I've had are with certain hacks and add ons not working right YET but the ROM itself is beautiful 100% working as good as stock
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Played bloons tower defense which requires a LOT of CPU when it's drawing over 200 balloons and darts. For an hour. No noticeable heat. Amazing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] VacTacks11:
Couple screenshots. r22 on stock.

Amazing stuff. Thanks again Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
I am using rasjelly bean. I love it but just trying too see what going on. never had this issue before. its quite annoying. i think it may be kernel related though...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] adigitalninja:
V19 was the first this I ever.flashed to.an android device. I was really impressed. But now on v23..... I don't even have words. This kernel is amazing. Great batt life, great speed. I just can see how.it can get any better. Thanks for all of the work man.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
Hi Franco, for some reason, I got a SOD while charging during night... Dunno why since the only thing I changed from my last setting is IO scheduler (deadline to row)

Anyways, attached last_kmsg after reboot. Hope that helps :)

My kernel setting:

-interactive

-1200 max, 300 min

-hispeed freq: 1000

-hispeed load: 70

-row

-238,228,240 color multiplier

-Using Trickster MOD to control this

Everything else has been untouched. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PhilipL:
Hi

Isn't it the case each change in signal level wakes the phone and perhaps this is the cause of this wake lock? Isn't this how the phone is able to chart signal strength fluctuations by receiving an interrupt from the modem that the signal has changed, waking the phone with an intent allowing the signal strength to be logged. So maybe it isn't so much a low signal causing these wake-locks, more the the fact when we have a low signal we tend to get more fluctuation in signal strength so the modem creates lots of wakes to record the new signal db, rather than being topped out at an unflinching 100% all day when we are next door to the cell tower.

For info, my HTC One X never recorded any changes in signal level, just flat-lined at mid way even though it was obviously having fluctuations from 0 to 100% as I travelled around, I assume this was a battery saving tweak by HTC to stop the phone waking unnecessarily. Is this something that can be added as an option to the Nexus 4 which records every up and down?

Loving r23, the first kernel I've tried apart from stock. Noticed the touch screen is more sensitive, I can use a capacitive pointer now which refused to work on the stock kernel, so presumably some changes there.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] paulo111:
Whats that widget?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Pure Drive GT:
from system monitor app, shows cpu states in a beautiful pie diagram :)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yup, I think its very clean and very easy to understand the workflow. Its very close to production model right now. I think now its time to finish the dialogs across the whole app, building a small tutorial on how to use the Per-App Settings and it should be good to go since I'll be going on vacations starting Monday :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Well, you have won your rest!

Enjoy!

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
Tapping Import backed up Per App modes causes a force close for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Did you backup modes before? I didn't add safe check if no modes are found. A logcat would be useful, I can't debug without a crash log besides doing some assumptions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zorginho:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] the audio in the headphones with your kernel is simply fantastic, I can't imagin nothing better! thx thx thx!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Pure Drive GT:
well because i was at it i continued monitoring the stock kernel and noticed a few more things. the main thing is, it more or less is only on 3 states: 384 mhz when no load, standard 1ghz 2 cores and then 1.5 ghz with 2-4 cores. after 4.5hours of sot it is roughly at 25% on 345mhz / 50% on 1ghz / 25% on 1.5ghz. well generally while cruising trough the rom everthing is faster simply because its always running on higher frequencies, but during games it has a few "hiccups" because of strange load management.

now to franco. while on his kernel there are way more states evenly spread. specially frequencies below 1ghz are used much more often. whereas frequencies above 1ghz are not used "very often". this results in better battery life and a cooler temperature. smoothness is exactly same but it's a little bit slower.

now i was wondering if you could set the franco kernel to hit the higher frequencies more often. I'm sure this is possible with the fku app i would just like to know which settings i would have to alter to get this done :)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aventu:
I said "not bad", because it offers more performance and has also a good battery life. With the original r163 build you can only use 2 or 4 cores, that means you have in many situations less performance. Grey bars have absolutely nothing to do with undervolting, they are Rom related and show your google account status.

[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] Did you read my explanation for the history calculation? Next thing I want to try are 2 cores minimum, maybe you're right :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
I can suggest you something even better. Combine it with Viper4Android. Just search for the thread. You won't believe how beautiful your N4 can sound.

Believe me, I'm professional musician! ;)

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dohllmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
I'm still waiting for it to be able to make me a damn sandwich. Thought maybe with M3. Shmeh

Sent from my Nexus 4 using a waffle iron.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Sorry to say that M3 was yet released some time ago, but Franco rejected this feature. He said something as conflicting with his plans for a new teletransportation option, or something like this...

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dohllmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zorginho:
i only put the headset gain +5, used DSP manager to set bass amp to moderate + a modified eq, and WOW!!

I need to try v4a but I'm really impressed already!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Believe me... DSP manager to V4A is like a bike to a Ferrari...

Try it. You'll thank me forever :beer:

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dohllmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tlf55:
Franco can you add the possibility to change GPU governor in your app ? and maybe a menu to tweak Simple Governor (like faux did)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmartino5920:
Kinda want to run V4A but it only has 1000 downloads, the description is in Chinese, and it only has four reviews.

Sent from my LTE Mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
He said no a couple of times yet. So, don't trust in that.

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dohllmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I don't think its necessary.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nocturnal86:
Hey franco are you still running default system mode at 702MHz frequency 0% high load and Max GPU 128MHz?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nocturnal86:
Ok cool just wanted to make sure you didnt find another better sweet spot haha. But to me that setting seems to be working awesome coupled with your per-app setting implementation! Thanks for your work :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
What's the minimum freq you using?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sNoxious:
702MHz I believe.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
702 min and max?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sNoxious:
Not sure if 1026MHz or 1188MHz.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Imppy:
No his defaults are 384/702
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Hotplug high load 0 means 4 cores on at all times? Doesn't 2 cores on screen interaction interfere with that?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Floydfire:
In the section of share and backup can you insert an option to view the setting maybe with a refresh button? Because in the beta sometime some values for the app doesn't set well for example if you change load for one then the next leave untouched it's become the value you have set for the previous app... Don't know if it's only my problem...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
That reminds me of something. Did you get my email franco?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zorginho:
tried, it has gazillion of options o_o is not so easy to play with it, you have some profiles to share?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes means 4 cores will always be online (excluding screen off of course).

No it doesn't interfere.

I can add the app settings view on the dialog, no problem. That problem you're describing does not happen anymore on the latest beta, I fixed it.

I did. I didn't have an answer for you thats why I didn't reply. I think I fixed that on my local build after further investigation of my code :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
If anyone wants color profiles to be included in FKU now its the time to post them. Just attach the file with no extension with the name you desire into your post and I'll paste it into the app assets. The window for submition will close sometime tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
I will contribute with 2 :)

Edit: had to put it to zip file cuz no extension files couldn't be uploaded to XDA.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Cool. Was just wondering if you got it or if it went to spam or something.

Nice glad to help out.