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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Somehow those apps can start themselves. It does not matter which kernel you have, this is userspace stuff.

Install BetterBatteryStats(search in xda) and see which apps do that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GruZone:
With what app you clear your ram memory?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ümit:
Without any app.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GruZone:
I thought this could be the reason for your battery drain. I'm not having your problem on r201.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ümit:
Do you use an app for memory cleaning? Which?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Akath19:
You shouldn't be using any app for memory clearing, Android is made so the more apps are in memory, the less power it'll use if one of those is activated.

As it was said before, memory cleaning won't solve wakelocks in any way.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jimbohurt:
It's odd, my settings aren't sticking anymore. Not sure if it's a 201 issue or the newest beta version of FKU. They've always sticked before. Yes I am ticking stick on boot and everything.

Anyone else having this issue? For example I have my phone undervolted and I have ticked save on boot and then next time I reboot (I give it plenty of time, even hours) and I go check and it's just on the default voltages. It didn't keep my custom one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GruZone:
Agree.. I dont any cleaner app, i find them more troublesome then without them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
I did (check my post above). I think it's FKU side.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AJ06:
Anybody have the weird case of battery nearly fully charged, restart phone, and the battery is down by at least 30% from before the restart?

TWRP does show the correct battery percentage though, albeit there is no wiping of battery stats in this recovery.

Maybe I've done something elsewhere to break something. I'll report back.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maddyreddy:
Try pairing FK r201 with PA beta2, if you are not it works great for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gordonbennet:
Has anyone tried Hellscore kernel. I'd love your thoughts on how it compares to Franco in terms of battery life. I'm mostly connected to 3g and would like the max screen on time. Just want some opinions, hope it's allowed.

As for the kernel, thanks as always to Franco and all the other supporters on this thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] volpe_astuta:
Why I have such a huge battery drain with 3g on?

I'm on omni with FK r201

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rohit02:
Its normal.. 3G drains battery a lot. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bilal6229:
Stock kernel is the best, fu*k the rest (y) Constantly getting over 5 hours of screen on time with Wi-Fi, location reporting constantly on. Franco was great on 4.2-4.3. But I think Google nailed it on battery life with the stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
FYI, [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] has pushed a new f.Ku beta:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49413820

Edit: it looks like selecting the Color Control tab causes an FC.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] R-Rizzo:
Seconded
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] manulemaboul:
Was coming here to see if it had been reported :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rzrv8:
4.4.2. Latest nightly. Everything stock. With my network on 3G, the only thing I do on my phone is read The Walking Dead on it. Just reached #88 please dont spoil.. But, lets get back to what I wanted to say. 2hrs SOT (almost daily take or add a minute) with battery at 78%. Thanks for making my phone the best comic reading device ever. I love you. #nohomo

Also, Google Play Books is the best to read books on although, 'Komik' is *way* better at battery consumption. I am so happy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
Lol.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
It's great. More great than FK in term of battery (but with intellidemand and zen only). The downside of those two is you'll get micro animation lag because intellidemand (cmiiw) clock at 1026 mhz max (forget the exact number but close to that).

I would prefer sacrificing a bit juice to gain more power, after all what purpose to having a high end 4 core HH but you still played with mediocre performance?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icyeye:
well this is mine experience with FK 200 , REDKAT Rom and.. i am satisfied. sry if somewhere is mentioned that posting pic is not ok but...for me i like this kernel a lot and especially the gamma presets. thanks again ,Cheer's! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icyeye:
and 2nd one - last
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] crozbomb:
trolling yes? i seriously doubt you are getting better performance from stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bilal6229:
Not really.. As for performance, everthing is buttery smooth!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mdaamir1989:
Great bro . We all are happy for you :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
What's the purpose of a high end phone, if it runs out of battery before the end of the day? :)

For demanding games, you should use per-app modes. If you want high performance across the board and don't want to configure settings, you might actually want to try the stock kernel !

franco.kernel main advantage is battery life (and cool extra features) while maintaining good enough performance for most tasks, under the default settings. You can always tweak settings for more performance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
Any tweaks for improving battery life..as in want to have decent 4 hrs sot.. I need to charge thrice every 2days

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
Never ran out of juice before the end of the day. Not really like to playing demanding games (my games only cut the rope, plants vs zombies 2, and blitz buggy blitz). Our usage may differ.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
FK main focus is both.. A happy medium between battery/performance.. Not one more than the other one... It's a tricky balance... Plus the few add-ons which doesn't make it a bloated kernel..

I rather have a good performance with a normal battery drain than one thousand hours of SOT on a turtle phone. With FK it feels a bit better than stock in many ways with probably the same battery drain... But with extra features that are much needed.

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Try lowering your input boots frequency to 1134000... I find no difference in performance and it does gives me about an extra 20% of battery a day. This is running r200 BTW
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
Thanks... I'll try

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
Yes, it's a balanced approach, but the kernel is famous for the battery life. BTW check what franciscofranco posted here, regarding his main objective:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=49433374
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jawz101:
Latest fku beta. Anyone having problems keeping the hotplug control suspend frequency at 702 mhz? It keeps jumping to 1512mhz after I reboot even though I have it set to stick
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Yes.. But that was when already the performance was up to the part... It's been a long ride for Franco to get us to this balanced point. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hakim7489:
my phone does not go into deep sleep mode while charging and only stays at 384mhz. and when i unplug and use it for few hours and then charge again, it stays at 1512mhz during charging and becomes noticeably warm. does anyone know why and can help me with this? running r201 but has been happening for quite sometime now. thanks in advance :(:(:(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Phone doesn't sleep while charging because it's charging dude ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hakim7489:
really? i remember my phone used to stay in deep sleep mode while charging but only recently it stays in 384mhz. cant trace out what might be the reason but if it is normal and others are experiencing this too then i guess i should chill a bit. thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
The phone cannot sleep while charging... It needs to stay awake to know how much it's charging and such...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] _artem_:
Heh, you also can't sleep while you're eating... except you are a vegetable and you "eat" through a pipe right in your vein
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] digitallysick:
My Franco Updater app says 193 is the latest nightly, why isn't it showing 201? Im using android 4.3.1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
r193 is the last one for JB. Everything after that is for KitKat.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
LOL! Exactly!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RockBoyEmy:
I'd like to report a little bug (I guess) about the fku app. Usually I have a shortcut of the app in a folder on my homescreen. But let's say like one month now, maybe less, every time fku app updates, the shortcut disappears from the folder, and so I have to take it again from the app drawer and put it in the folder. Obviously it is not a big deal, but just wanted to report it, as it didn't happen before
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
Hey guys so I have an issue....Ive been running r200 on stock settings except for -75 undervolt for a while now and am getting decent battery life..but I wanted a little more out of it so I decided to underclock cpu to 1350 mhz max and gpu to 320 mhz max. After doing so I got much worse battery life. Im starting to wonder if this is an issue with the code...not trying to talk **** but there have been bugs relating to this in the past. I can go back to stock settings, but what if I just want a little extra battery and dont really game much, so running it underclocked should technically help. Im not sure whats going on, would anyone else like to test whether changing the parameters around makes their battery life better or worse?

I'll try running it for another day and see if anything changes...btw my usage didnt change nor did BBS show anything out of the ordinary...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
Hello,does this kernel give the option to keep the screen on during call?thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
That's usually a ROM option.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
Do you know a ROM with this feature?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] llsantiago:
I saw your post and i´m experiencing that too, so I made a test. When the max frequency is set to 1.5Ghz in System Monitor I can see that touch boost is so fast, one second, but when I downgrade to 1.2Ghz, the touch boost still there for about to 15 seconds and doing easy tasks like taking one screenshot is causing all cores to go online.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KSLevel11:
Could someone post default gamma values used in LG Optimus G?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
That's great news...thanks for testing and confirming. Hopefully Franco can confirm and fix the issue!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Same as the default here. But it looks different. It's been default since r2X. Dig up my post here since r5X for the proof if you like to.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yochananmarqos:
You landed in a Nexus 4 thread, sir. Might want to check the Optimus G forums. ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gtanner00:
I think he means the values for the lg display setting rather than the Google stock ones. These were taken from the lg optimus g which uses the same display panel as the nexus 4

However the lg preset values were developed for faux kernel tuning system not the Franco system so they aren't transferable.

I liked that preset as well but it seems that I have to stick with the stock profile which is pretty close.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yochananmarqos:
Ah! Thanks for filling me in.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] strobel:
I faced this problem to and in different kernels. I did a cpu down clock in hells this days to 1242000 and the battery went worse, at 1026000 it got better! I think it can be something with the governor that doesn't understand the frequencies and try to coop with it failing :p

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bubur_bewok:
How to enable double tap to wake without sweep to wake enabled at the same time?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
There is no sweep-to-wake capability built into this kernel, only double-tap-to-wake.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] abalam:
Use the app: touch control

Sent from my Nexus⁴ machine
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bubur_bewok:
Oh so its just the matter of sensitivity, coz screen turned on when i put the phone into my pocket..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
That feature is experimental, many of the kinks have never been worked out...and probably never will be: I don't think Franco is interested in developing it any further, he's removed it from the N5 kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] strobel:
With the dubletap2wake in franco, if you touch the screen in one place and wait some seconds and touch it again in an other place the screen wake... I think this is bad, but as said before, its experimental and probably is not going to be developed. It would be awesome if it just worked in the middle part of the screen and with a fast double tap... Not going to happen.

I think it would be better just to take it away than to let this buggie thing in a beautifully build kernel like this one. But that is up to Franco to decide.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] XNemia:
Hello guys, just I would ask about the last update, has the Ring Delay been fixed?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
Yes
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] crozbomb:
no it hasn't.

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no it hasn't, i don't know why that guy went and said it has.weirdo.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
I guess he was just taking [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] 's word for it.

I can't say, myself...I never experienced the problem to begin with.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IndDoc:
I guess it's natural but pretty sad Franco hasn't been able to devote as much time to mako as previous since hammerhead was launched. We miss you Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
That's just how it is, if there's a new device, the features often be on the new device before it trickles back to the older devices, but Franco did say that he will support Mako since he said that it's one of his important devices.

I personally want to see if he can backport these to the Nexus 4, I'm guessing the Nexus 4 should see improvements since both the Nexus 4 and 5 use Qualcomm SoCs.

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
Dunno if you're being sarcastic or just being a ****, but the changelog for r201 clearly states it's fixed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shakatu:
Still has a second or two with a black screen for me while the phone is audibly ringing...

But I hardly get calls so it doesn't bug me too much.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
A little delay is normal. And also it'll get longer if you've lowered the suspend frequency. But generally it has been fixed, yeah. It's never been instant.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
I never noticed the issue either. I'm just going by what Franco said.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hellsgod:
An iPhone needs a second to awake from sleep, too. If somebody wants absolutly no delay, he should do something the phone won't enter deep sleep. Bye bye battery life.

hell

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shakatu:
I understand that if I you call someone you hear the ring back tone a few times on the line before their phone starts ringing. I thought what was in question was the Nexus 4 audibly playing it's ringtone for a few seconds before it lights up. If this isn't what we were talking about then I guess there is actually nothing to be talking about so never mind then.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ak:
This problem is related to rom not kernel, check on cm branch, cyanogen have the solution.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] xanthrax:
Yes , using primal vanir v5 with hellscore the delay is 1 second

In an AOSP ROM , using the same hellscore kernel , 3 seconds delay

...but CM is like a black hole for the battery

-=-=-

On galaxy s3 there is a mod . quick screen off , when press on the home button or when on an income call the screen opens instantly but ...the phone never goes into deep sleep

sent from my Darkside of Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] poussinou69:
Hi,

Anyone knows if r201 works fine troubles with the last AOKP nightly plz ? (i can't test it for the moment and i know there was some troubles before).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RohanM:
Used to get this on stock rom as well..so for me that's a kernel issue for sure, as stock kernel never gave that issue.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
It's very rare to see another kernel dev comment to another kernel dev thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Lol. Everyone here is a human being, be it a dev or a user.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] xanthrax:
this should happen more often...

sent from my Darkside of Nexus 7 LTE
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] strobel:
Agreed. And the nice part is the Dev of the other kernel giving an answer helping to explain a "problem" nicely and friendly ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ak:
Hey guys, I think anyone using a 4.4.x based rom can agree that on most roms there is a major call wake delay that sometimes even results in a missed call. This is caused by Google not keeping the dialer in memory on Kit-Kat. Now not too long ago Cyanogenmod created a incallui.apk that keeps the stock 4.4 dialer in memory, this is all fine and dandy but it does nothing for those of us that enjoy the more feature rich 4.4 Google Dialer. XDA member klobkelosh brought to my attention a workaround for the Google Dialer so we can use it without having that annoying call wake lag. Here are the super simple instructions:

1. Do a nandroid ( that way it's not my fault if you blow up the planet with your phone from doing this)

2. Flash the Dialer-InCallUI-InMemory-140107.zip found in my shared Drive folder linked below the Community description

3. Flash the pa_googledialer-module-4.4.2-20140111a-signed.zip found in my shared Drive folder linked below the Community description

4. Reboot

5. Do the Humpty Dance

6. Enjoy the Google Dialer and it's wonderful caller-id and business search features without worrying about missing a call due to wake lag.*

If you are doing a clean install make sure to boot the device once and then return to recovery to flash Google Dialer, if you are just updating your current rom (dirty flashing) then you may flash the rom, gapps, incall fix and google dialer all at the same time.

From [MENTION=2853378]Nephilim[/MENTION] post
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
Thank you very much sir..

Mako = Purity + r201 + 98/33 -> using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] foxguard:
Hey. This is just what I logged on for, using tapatalk and can't see links for the packages. Do I need be on a PC?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ol@fson:
I had to search for the link on my PC too .. You will find the google drive share here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] foxguard:
Damn, doesn't work with PA 4+ Anyone got a fix that does?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Flashed and works fine but it doesn't really fix the call delay.

Increasing the suspend frequency seems to be the only possible fix now.

Running beergang rom and r198 ( cos battery isn't the best on 199+ and the call delay gets worse) ..

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anshumandash:
Google dialer is being blamed for the in call screen on delay. I have used stock and with stock kernel this delay isn't there. I have used slimkat and on slim stock kernel this delay isn't there. You flash a custom kernel which doesn't use mpdecision, this problem will appear. You flash a kernel that uses mpdecision, your problem will go off. So how is it a Google dialer problem? Every thread blames Google dialer. Or is it that Google dialer and custom hotplug aren't going well together? Or May be custom hotplugs need improvement to solve this problem on KitKat.

These are my personal observation. I could be wrong though.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Wrong assumption mate. Appears on any kernel with mpdecision too. E.g. thracemerin's m+ kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RockBoyEmy:
Guys, I've run a benchmark on my nexus4 with antutu, quadrant, and gave a try also to christian göllner's benchmark app. I am not one that relies only on benchmarks results at all in order to say that a device is good or not. But since I had quite some strange results, for example my device getting a lower score than the actual stock nexus 4, although I set perApps mode for those 3 benchmark apps with the highest kernel settings ( both min. and max. CPU freq. = 1.5ghz to force it to use the max power, the first level setting = 5 in order to force using all 4 cores, the GPU set to 400mhz with up and down_threshold = 25 to force using max gpu power). At this point I don't know, is it me that is doing something wrong (i am pretty sure yes) because I have the feeling that even though I am using a light rom and the latest franco kernel, my phone can do, even if it's buttersmooth as it is, a lot better, and it's just me that doesen't know how. Sorry for the long post. Cheers!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anshumandash:
Mine was not an assumption. It's my experience With two stock kernels where the issue doesn't appear.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] axlrvx:
I never have screen delay problems when I'm receiving a call, maybe you have to watch your phone, it's my experience with the stock kernel and the FK r199, r200 and r201.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] foxguard:
So we don't have a fix yet? As Kong as I haven't missed something.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] _artem_:
Now I know the secret... it's undervolting!

Couple of days ago tapped twice on -25 (-50) and here is the result on r201

Will try another two taps (-100)

On -50 n4 is as fast as on default volting and I couldn't see any differences except better battery life
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] santeana:
Are you new? Lol ;)

Sorry, just teasing. But yes uv'ing makes a big difference. particularly in heat. You'll notice your phone a lot cooler now as well.