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[Nexus 10 General] Jackietreehorn:
Awesome, this is one of those things that I like knowing, but am always too lazy to do myself.

I thought I saw in an article that it looked like Google/Samsung was going to have a pogo charger in box, but pulled it at "the last minute." Don't know if it's true, but a bummer all around that we didn't get one.

Also, this comment: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34249045&postcount=6
[Nexus 10 General] SayWhat10:
thats a long time for a 2amp charger

seems to work with my 1amp note charger though
[Nexus 10 General] dalingrin:
Has anyone look looked in the sysfs to get a better idea of how much power the tablet is actually drawing from the charger? I know the charger is 5v/2a but what is the tablet actually reporting. It is possible that the tablet is incorrectly identifying the charger and only allowing ~1a. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened.
[Nexus 10 General] SpenZerX:
Iam very happy with micro usb charging.

+ >4 chargers at home (not easy to find the right ones, but galaxy note charger has enough power)

+ battery life increases (slow charging)

i dont need the pogo charger for charging - but its good to have a dock connector
[Nexus 10 General] question.com:
Mine took forever also. Goodness
[Nexus 10 General] Oli2k:
The Note 2 charger is 2 amp so it should charge just as quick
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
I was around 8% or so, and then I left my N10 to charge overnight (5-6 hours) from the wall charger. Woke up to it fully charged :)

Had WiFi enabled, sync on, and Asphalt 7 downloading in the background.
[Nexus 10 General] sablemonster:
I was at 37% at 1:30am, woke up at 7am and it was only at 61%. Given, this was using a staples brand dual USB wall port with my GSIII plugged in as well. I certainly hope they release a pogo charger soon.
[Nexus 10 General] SayWhat10:
or a current app/widge that works?

i have one for my Note,but wont work on the Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 General] mustafansu:
so if i get an apple charger or equiivalent from Ebay, the ones with 12W rating 2-2.4A will it chargee my N10 faster than the stock one? im guessing not by much. currently its taking 6-7 hours to charge. and if i forget to charge it over night, then kinda useless next day.
[Nexus 10 General] funkdoobi:
If anyone is looking for an alternative USB to AC charger, get the one from the HP touchpad. It's one of the best ones out, topping garbage like the apple one.
[Nexus 10 General] SayWhat10:
the tablet wont charge at a higher amp than its designed to,not sure what amount is, but probably is 2amp

and yeah i forgot last night, so im slave to the charger today

my asus infinity that im selling on ebay now because of this, took 2.2 hours from 0 to full
[Nexus 10 General] wynand32:
My iPad 3 takes 7.5 hours to charge from 0% to 100%. So this sounds pretty similar.
[Nexus 10 General] creektrails:
5or6hours isn't a very good nights sleep. :)
[Nexus 10 General] jmhalder:
9000mah battery, 2000ma charger, a little amperage falloff when its mostly full which you can see in the graph... It should take ~5 hours.
[Nexus 10 General] johnyguy:
So let me ask you 'what do you do nwhen you doing something on the tablet and its dies on you plug it in and wait 8 hours to charge it ?

What if it's in the middle of the day ? Not using it for 8 hours ? So than what's the point having it. ??

Its %#$%& ANOYING. !!

We need a pogo charger ASAP. !!
[Nexus 10 General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
if that's the case i don't feel so bad. but that makes sense given our battery capacities are huge nowadays.

All this talk about the POGO charger. Does it supply more amperage? Can someone tell me how it works on the Nexus 7? It delivers more than 2A?
[Nexus 10 General] johnyguy:
That's exactly my point you can't play with it while charging , also I like to use up all my battery power before I charge it so I don't put it on charger like 23% , you get my point!

Otherwise its a great tablet ! but what the F was Google thinking releasing a product like this?
[Nexus 10 General] wptski:
I'm looking at a Nexus 10 or Asus TF700 now, so I've been lurking in both areas.

Your all refering to your AC plug in unit as a charger. I'm not sure if any tabet, etc. has an external charger. The charger is in the device and the AC plug in unit is just a power supply. It isn't going to matter if you use a 2A or 10A.

If have RC type chargers that'll charge all types of batteries. If I had a 900mAh Li-Ion battery like used in the N10 and charged it at 1A, it would take around an hour or so as the Li-Ion uses a different process than a Ni-MH, etc.. The normal rule is not to exceed the capacity with the charging rate.

The internal charger is what's slow here. I doubt if using the pogo contacts will be any better because again it goes through the same internal N10 charger.

Using the Battery Monitor widget from 3C might provide some info. I never paid much attention to charging time on my Dell Streak 7.
[Nexus 10 General] e.mote:
>The internal charger is what's slow here. I doubt if using the pogo contacts will be any better because again it goes through the same internal N10 charger.

That's probably not the whole story. According to the micro-USB connector spec,

http://193.219.66.80/datasheets/usb_20/Micro-USB_final/Micro-USB_1_01.pdf

the micro-USB contacts are rated for 1.8A (9W at 5V). That's the max. In practice, actual current is probably substantially lower to avoid overload.

Someone did a test on N7's charging, using various AC adapters and cables.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1823377

The salient takeaway was that max charging current was only at 0.82A for the best setup (incl the OEM adapter & cable). This limit could've been by design (ie programmed into the charging circuit) to not overload the micro-USB contact pins, or by default (ie limited by the wimpy contacts). Either way, the micro-USB connector is likely the charging bottleneck.

N7 has a 4.3Ah battery; N10 has 9Ah batt or roughly twice as large. Since charging time is typically linear to battery capacity, and since N7 full-charge is ~3hr while N10 is ~6hr, we can conclude that charging current is the same for both: around 0.8A.

Then it's possible to achieve faster charging with pogo-pin connector while using the same 2A@5V source, if the connection is more robust to allow closer to the max 2A current.

Aside: It's also probably why iPad3's proprietary 30-pin connector allows faster charging with a 10W source. iPad4's switch to the Lightning connector may be related as well to the bump in charging current (to 2.4A).
[Nexus 10 General] wptski:
Whoops! I misread the N10 as having a 900mAh battery not a 9000mAh one!! In that case, it isn't that slow at all from that source.
[Nexus 10 General] pj_rage:
The maximum current rating of the charger is irrelevent unless it is rated too low and the device maxes it out. Which is unlikely to be the case for the stock n10 charger at 2A. In other words, you could get a 10A rated charger and it will not charge any faster than the 2A charger. This is because the charging current is not only limited by the external current limit (charger rating) but it is also limited internally by the internal charging circuit. And in the case of the n10, over microUSB, it is extremely unlikely that it is capable of pulling more than 2A (again, due to the internal limit).

If anyone still cares about this info, I'll make some measurements to see what the exact charging current is, but based on the graph in the OP, taking ~6hrs to charge a 9000mAh battery, we can safely conclude that the charging current is about 1.5A (9000mAh / charging_current = 6h). This number also makes perfect sense in that they are about maxing out the microUSB connector for current handling.

I don't know what the limit will be for the pogo pins, but I would not be surprised to see at least 2A, if not higher. So why does samsung include a 2A charger if it only charges stock at 1.5A? Maybe because they know the pogo pins can charge higher, so you can use your same stock charging brick and just use the pogo cable to acheive 2A, and charge in about 4.5hrs vs 6.

Just an FYI, I haven't verified for sure, but if the n10 is like other samsung devices (aka cell phones), then you'll want to only use the approved charger, regardless of the current rating of the replacement charger you're trying to use. The reason is because samsung devices require the two data lines on the usb charger to be shorted together to provide the maximum charge current, otherwise the device assumes it is connected to a computer and internally limits the charging current to 500mA (the maximum output of a standard USB port). This will charge the device at a rate 3 times slower than stock, and very likely will continue to discharge at a noticeable rate if using it while charging this way. There are certain 3rd party chargers that have these pins shorted, but do your research before buying anything. Just to be clear, no matter what the rating is on the charger itself, if it does not have the two data pins shorted, it will not charge the device at the maximum possible current. For example, you take your ipad charger, rated at 2A, and plug it in. You think because it is rated at 2A and so is your stock charger that you're all set. Wrong. It will charge at 500mA, or, about 3 times slower than stock. This issue is complicated by the fact that this is not how iphone charging works, and alot of chargers really focus on iphones, so *most* chargers out there do not have the data lines shorted and charge your samsung device(s) really slowly. Again, I actually have been meaning to verify this to be 100% sure it is true on my n10, but I know for a fact this is how it works on my samsung galaxy note (1 not 2), and on many other samsung devices, so I have been assuming it is also the case for the n10, but I will check and report back.
[Nexus 10 General] demusss:
You're correct about the nexus 10 limiting to 500mA. I spliced a usb extebsion and added in an ammeter. It was only measuring 500-600mA.

Battery Monitor Widget showed the same charging current.

Just with the stock psu and cable it charges with 1550mA according to BMW.

BMW also does pretty graphs
[Nexus 10 General] pj_rage:
Thanks for the update! Was planning to test that tonight. Hadn't tried those apps on my n10 yet.
[Nexus 10 General] DenusAndre:
yeah!
[Nexus 10 General] the_slain_man:
I have a bunch of 1 amp chargers that I got with my Nexus One and Galaxy Nexus.

Been wondering if they are safe to use with the Nexus 10?

Do the chargers have some kind of communication protocol so the tablet and phones can detect what is safe?
[Nexus 10 General] pj_rage:
It is safe for your n10 to use any USB charger. However, it may not be safe for the charger. If the charger has the data lines shorted (aka a stock charger for a samsung device, as well as some other chargers), the nexus 10 will try to pull 1.5A from it. If the charger is not rated to provide 1.5A, then depending on the charger design, it could get very hot and/or destroy itself, or it could safely and reliably provide its maximum rated current without any heat or other issues. Best practice to prevent a fire or other problem would be to not use any charger rated for less than 2A (technically 1.5A but given that these are inexpensive cheaply made chargers, their ability to produce their rated current without excessive heat or problems is, IME, hit or miss).

Also, as noted above, depending on the configuration of the charger (whether its data lines are shorted or not), it may charge much, much slower than the stock charger, even if it is rated at 1.5A or more. If it is another stock samsung charger, rated at 1.5A or higher, it will charge as fast as the stock n10 charger, but if it is any charger where the data lines are not shorted (IME most chargers on the market), it will charge at 500mA whether it is rated for 2A or 10A, which will take 3 times as long to charge as your stock charger.

Long story short, do not use any charger rated for less than 2A. Any charger rated for 2A+ should be safe to use, but may not charge the n10 as fast as is possible. If you want to ensure fastest charging, use the stock charger or replacement stock charger, or do your research to find a 2A+ rated charger that has the data lines shorted.
[Nexus 10 General] Darknessborn:
Can someone do a comparison graph between the pogo and the stock charger? I have filtered through the pogo thread (over 70 pages in total) but didn't see anything.
[Nexus 10 General] usncpg45:
All the talk about chargers, voltage, amperage... You guys are missing the important fact.. BATTERY CAPACITY. The Nexus 10 has a 9000 milliamp hour battery. The Nexus 7 is 4800(from memory, as I don't have my N7 in front of me). The Note 2 is 3100mah. The reason the N10 charges slower is because it's battery is TWICE as large as the N7 but it's charger outputs the same amperage.. 2.0amps.

So if it takes 3 hours to charge your N7, it will take almost 6 for your N10. :silly:
[Nexus 10 General] natthayu:
it will take forever to charge if the display is on
[Nexus 10 General] Felisek:
Charging a lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries is a bit more complicated. To prolong their longevity the charging circuit first applies constant current until the battery is about 50-60% charged. Then it switches to constant voltage and the current gradually drops from this moment. This is why the charging curve is steeper first and the charging rates slows down. This makes the charging process longer. The charging current will drop to zero when battery is full.

See Fig. 1 in this paper.
[Nexus 10 General] nigeldodd:
car charger

Charging the n10 in a car yesterday using a 3A usb charger connected to the lighter socket was very slow indeed. Using the n10 as a satnav took far more charge than was delivered by the charger. From the discussion above it would seem that the two data lines were not connected together and the n10 assumed it was connected to a computer and took minimal charge.

Is it not possible to make a modification to a usb lead, connecting the two data lines together, to work around this issue?
[Nexus 10 General] nigeldodd:
following on

I see there is a relevant answer in another thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=709226

Has anybody tried it with the n10?

What current can the wires in a cheap usb lead take?

Does the pogo lead http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_o...70.l1313.TR0.TRC0&_nkw=nexus+10+pogo&_sacat=0

avoid these problems?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] theofficialpimp:
I want better sound on the loudspeaker

Made possible by my sexy LG Optimus 4X HD (P880)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] lenny.chem.dat:
You can get a slightly better sound with beats audio from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

But it's only for Headphones, I think. I also hope for Voodoo Sound.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bzlik88:
Anybody use cloud printing with their SII?

If so, can you print directly from gallery or do u have to have all printable objects (photos, documents, etc.) uploaded to google drive?

Also can you multiselect photos to print? Or is it one photo at a time only?

I'm trying to get mother completely independent from me to print her photos and documents. She is NOT tech savy so any quick simple solutions? Through research ive come to google cloud printing as an option but if anyone else has a better idea please let me know.

Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Deleted member 2597211:
I have and it works great. I used in Gmail and 3rd party app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pauloslf.cloudprint
[General Questions and Answers] Reenne:
Is there someone who have successfully bought nexus 4 with official price???
[General Questions and Answers] iKoolkid:
Go online to Google and check their prices
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vinaybisht155:
Hello Fends

I am having Micromax superfona canvas 2 A110

I want to root my mobile to gain access to internet with reverse tethering

Can any body help me

My mail I'd is vinaybisht155@Gmail.com

Thanks u fends

Any help will be accepted....
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N3Ti:
Post here if you want quicker reply.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1960080
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Futant55:
Ingress is a new augmented reality game by Google.

Has anyone got an invite code?

Here is a review on it if you haven't heard of it.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...game-a-curious-explorer-in-the-city-can-play/

Here is where to request an invite.

http://www.ingress.com/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cmjkxa:
I finally got an invite from google, and I have no clue what I'm doing. lol :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
I've been playing the last few days and I'm kind of hooked. I chose Enlightened, but we're outnumbered by a lot right now.

You basically gather XM (little glowing dots on your map) by walking near them. They are your power/life that you need to do anything.

You look for Portals around you, you can find them on a map at www.ingress.com/intel. Notice that as you zoom in and out, it shows various levels of Portals. Unclaimed Portals are, well, unclaimed, then Portals can be captured and modified to level up from level 1-8.

You get within 40m of a Portal to hack it, which then gives you random items. You can do this 1 to about 5 times or so before the Portal gets hot and goes on cooldown for 5 minutes.

You'll get Resonators from hacking Portals. You use the Resonators on Portals and once you have 8 Resonators on a Portal, the Portal is online and can be linked to other Portals. The higher level the Resonators attached to a Portal, the greater the range that you can link to other Portals. You also have to get a Portal Key from a Portal before you can link it to another Portal.

The main objective is to link Portals together to create a "Mind field", a triangulated canvas over an area. You get Mind Units based on the number of people (estimated by Google I guess) in a covered triangle area.

The opposing faction can still hack enemy Portals to get items, and they can use XMP's that they pick up to create a radius pulse around them to try and destroy enemy Resonators so that they can capture them.

I have about 10 Portals right by where I work, so I go a few times a day and walk around to hack all of the portals. I had most of them linked up this morning and was going well. Unfortunately, while I was sitting inside work, 4 (I assume they're college students that don't have school right now) Resistance members came in and destroyed all of my portals and took them over for the Resistance.

Bummer.

Teamwork really pays off because you can only upgrade Portal Resonators to a certain extent by yourself, then they benefit from up to 8 different people contributing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] hiii_imkris:
How long did it take you to get your invite? Your description sounds even better than what I read before. I requested an invite a few days ago and haven't heard anything.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] daddymatt:
I got my invite after 5 days or so..

Sent from my AT&T Galaxy Note II /w wireless charging.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] hiii_imkris:
Hmm, hopefully get mine soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
I think I signed up on the 17th and got an invite on the 18th. I'm pretty sure I just got lucky and signed up right before a wave of invites. I signed my wife and a buddy up on the 19th and they're still waiting for their invites.

---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:48 PM ----------

I must add, us Note 2 users are SOOOO lucky playing this game. You have to have the screen on the entire time to collect XM and to do anything in the game, as well as an active GPS signal. I can't imagine ever being able to do this on my Skyrocket for more than 30 minutes before it would go dead. The Note 2 battery is a champ. If I'm travelling between destinations then I'll plug in to my car charger, but otherwise I walk around this big park area that has about 10 Portals and I can walk the park for an hour or more and not worry about my battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] RMXO:
I'm in & it took me a few days after I asked for one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] slegrand:
Got my invite a few days ago, decided to try and work on a non root inspired theme for my note II and Optimus G
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] vizographic:
Damn...you google (fist held up to the sky) your insanity has infected me! Now, I have to order another battery and wait then wait and wait some more! Gotta check the gmail...maybe ...arrg where is my invite......arrg!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] JoseGutierrez:
May I have an invite from a fellow XDA user?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Astom22:
Signed up, now to wait for my invite.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
I don't think any players have invites. I know I don't have any and haven't from the beginning. From what I see it may come out of beta on 11/30. Otherwise, you have to sign up for an invite at ingress.com
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Astom22:
I read where it may leave beta on the 30th, hoping I get an invite before then though, sounds fun.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] shaolin95:
Im still waiting for mine :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ealston4:
Waiting for mine also. Pick up the pace Google.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] phi1ipp:
Re: invites

I've heard that you can invite somebody if you earn such a privelege. It's named Recruit. Probably for hacking portals or something else.

Still waiting for an invite. If somebody has one, share with me pls! Wanna join the Resistance!

Thx,

Philipp
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
There's an invite button on the Intel map, and a recruit page in the app, but neither of them show any available invites on mine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] theonlyanil:
Got activation code. and here's the gameplay on my galaxy s3 :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyvRHScZ5pg&feature=plcp
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Dave RL:
Anyone have an invite to share. I've tried competing and waiting for the G+ posted ones but others are much too quick.

Thanks,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] theraker007:
Does this game get better? Played for a few days and its mostly garbage
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] vizographic:
Thanks for sharing the video. I have a quick question. Does the games entire reality augmentation component take place only as a map overlay? I hoped to see some game graphics on video cam overlays on geomapped locations.....if not as impressive, in principle, similar to what was implied in the trailer.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
No augmented reality through camera at this point. Just the map.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] the2rrell:
Seems like a huge waist of time........you have to physically visit these places right? who has that kind of time to go and drive/walk to a portal and hack them everyday?? the concept sounds decent, but the reality side of it has no payoffs except i guess you feel like your IN the game or something.....nah.

good luck to those that are feeling this type of game.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] greekjim:
Anyone have a spare invite? ive been trying to get in for a couple of days now through various g+ contests and have had no luck. I wanna try this out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Felixpau86:
Also looking for an invite if anyone has a spare. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cmjkxa:
I ran ingress non stop yesterday and had 6 hours of onscreen time. Insane.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] joeycass:
I have been waiting a bit over a week for my invite and still haven't got one from Mr. Google.

Anyone able to PM me with an invite by chance?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] trentthompson:
Its been two weeks for myself. Im hoping to get one soon!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Astom22:
Feel your pain, I'm starting to think they lost my email address. :)

Hoping someone can hook me up with an invite.