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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Quad core UV r61 is definitely smoother than r62.

Testing it with the newest ASOPA. And the OS tends get "congested" less often, if you know what I'm talking about.

Haven't tested the battery yet but I guess it won't be much of a difference from dual core.

If we paid for 4 cores I would think we should use all 4 cores. Maybe if we can configure the hotplug in the kernel app?

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I suspected that lowering the max frequency won't affect the performance that much and your test proved it.

Now we need to figure out how much battery can we get out from it, thus making it a logical choice.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SynysterGates951:
Am I missing something? None of the links on minooch seem to work :S...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Server is down.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] WhiteSRT69:
^^agree... links arent working :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DarkenCypher:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

:( I was ready to flash.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Which version do you need?

I have r61 and r62 here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iammudd:
Thanks for the tests.... If there were no overhead in managing multiple cores (e.g. hotplug), one remaining issue with current implementations is that the results CAN be affected by independent cpu freq's. Random assignment of tasks could actually increase real-time response: In the 1512 test, perfmon shows cpu2 freq at 384 which is almost 1/4 of cpu0's freq. If by accident, all of cpu2's tasks were on the critical path, all the other tasks running at 1512 would have to wait 4x as long.

If battery is not an issue and you want the best performance, then active cores need to be synchronized to the same freq... but since that is not possible today (with 4 indep gov's), perhaps a better benchmark would be cap both the upper AND lower end to a narrower range.

If it were possible, a compromise between perf and batt would be to have a kernel schedule time-sensitive tasks (much like QoS in the networking world) to the cpu set at max freq and background tasks relegated to slower cpu's to save power.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DarkenCypher:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Whatever is the most stable. I'll be using it with stock.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] |Logic|:
They're both stable. 61 uses all 4 cores, while 62 uses 2 cores saving slightly more battery. The choice is yours, here's a mirror. http://www.2shared.com/file/k_sw9x4-/Franco_61_and_62.html
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DarkenCypher:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Would you say 61 uses way more battery?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
go with r62. It performs better than r61 even at dual core.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I would say r61 performs better.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iFalcon:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

+1. Love 47. Still better than the others for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
62 is a lot smoother and its so much faster here with aokp pub

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Ya I've been switching back and forth between 61 , 62 and 47 , I think my favorite is 47 but the speed of 62 keeps bringing me back :p. But I do think Franco should take a relook at build 47 , .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Well yeah because all its cores are running.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] k_nivesout:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Agreed, somehow in the UI, 62 is smoother even with half the cores. With 61, gesture typing was super choppy to me. Better in 62 but still had to increase highspeed_freq to 1026 to iron things out. Still not quite as fluid as stock though, which other governor parameters would be best to tweak for silkier gesture typing?

BTW I mention gesture typing because aside from that, the UI is pretty on par with stock/other kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
62

Ya I don't no , I think the guys here than can look past there only being 2 cores running on 62 are all saying 62 is performing better , my opinion of what I've been Reading last few days .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iFalcon:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

It is amazing how smooth stock is compared to many of the custom ones.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ACastanza:
Very much a fan of this idea!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trailblazerz11:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Not really considering it just locks min freq at 1026. Really don't like the idea of that for battery but really smooth.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Did like u said , and it dose kick in all cores , seemed faster but after screen on off toggle , the duel core is faster
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elcaro:
Minooch's server is back up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elzafir:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I may invoke the wrath of xda, but I tried skimming over the thread but could not find this app. So, I'm gonna pull the trigger and ask away: what is this app you were talking about and link pls?

Btw, I'm on r62 and undervolted -150mV on every frequencies. No discernable performance hit whatsoever.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] winner00:
Waits for updated kernel with 4.2.1_r1.2 changes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iammudd:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel

Franco's paid app (which allows a variety of changes to settings).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SleemLDJ:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What's the lowest UV anyone has ever had?

I have -100 across all on R62 and I'm so loving the performance and battery life.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Haomuch:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What is that? An ota update you already received?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Those r the latest patches google released

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I understand that Franco already UV 1026 so you shouldn't uv this much as other frequencies, uv also depends on CPU.

google patches? Link please?

sent from my HTC OneSV while I wait for an RMA on my Nexus
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] peschka:
+1 on this

I'm using r62 with conservative governor (find it way better than r61) and nominal binned CPU. You can see my voltages at the screen (they're the absolute minimum for nominal chip).

I can confirm that with this build we can make 5+ hours on screen. I like the idea to boost to 4 cores (with widget or hotplug, no matter, to 4 cores).

EDIT: BTW when we'll gonna see gamma control Franco ? Every other kernel already have it ...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I saw that in PA LASTEST rom.....they included them on it...im sure franco is gonna do the same once his done hangin with his girl

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The two kernel patches only fix two bugs when charging the device (possibly fixing the slow charging problem sometimes apparent if the device met some conditions).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Never mind :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] steviewevie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I think it's 750mV, but try a search and you should be able to find it. If you set a lower value than the minimum it just ignores your value.

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The fixes in the thread with that name are just for Bluetooth and NFC.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I'm on r62 now, have fast cpu banning.

Can I safely undervolt these numbers by -100? Thx

In perfmon app, I notcef all4cores in usage? I thought this r62 was 2cores only

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Got my higher score with the bench to bench to you eek bench Geek edge to

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Both questions answered over and over and over , try search
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
i lowered it 75 accross the board, but i notice the phone gets really warm faster now, its at 40c and im only using wifi, i can only imagine if im on LTE, it would get even hotter :confused::(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anarchy2cruo:
im on r62. uv by -150 for all freqs. no problem so far. performs well.:good:

btw im with faster cpu binning. run stability test 5 minutes for all cores testing with my uv. temperature never exceed 36c.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
please post screenshot of your voltages thanks, 1026mhz = _____?

are you using interactive or conservative

also im confused on r62, i thought it was 2 cores only but, with perfmon app, i see it uslng all 4 cores all the time?

when i was on r53, i only seen 1 core on, with 2 cores on only when it was needed auto ( im thinking r53 is way better then r62 in terms of battery savings?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dadonking:
Could someone verify the min voltage? Is it 700 mV or 750 mV? I searched this thread for 700 and 750 in combination with franciscofranco without any matched results.

And what does it mean, that voltages below this limit will be ignored? Do you get the min voltage or the stock voltage?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] steviewevie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Are you using TricksterMod or SetCPU? Because those don't always play nicely with Franco.

750mV is the minimum. See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37312592#post37312592 and a couple of posts below that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] akira.pwr:
How is possible to have 3/4 hours of screen on and a lot of hours of battery life? I have max 2 hours of screen and max 10 hours of battery life, I'm on cm10.1 and r62, with r53 I have less of both. Can depend on cm ROM?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dadonking:
No wonder he has not found anything. There is no space between value and unit ^^ Thanks alot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

take a backup, switch roms and test for yourself, most of the best battery stats that you see are wifi only with good mobile reception, when on 3g battery usage is much greater. The usage pattern depends very much of your individual usage, in the week I have most things sync'ing and stream internet radio which murders my battery, but when at home at the weekend on WiFi only I get great figures

sent from my HTC OneSV while I wait for an RMA on my Nexus
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] akira.pwr:
Yes, I know it depends on my personal use, but here I read great things about that, too great to be true, I have a lot of things syncing too, most of the use is surfing internet, chatting, reading forums etc, not so much calls, I think navigation burn my battery very fast.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Haomuch:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Turn off the GPS if you don't need it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ranguvar:
This is misinformation -- mostly. GPS does not use power while not in use.

It's true that some apps turn on the GPS when they don't need to, of these I know only Facebook (and only briefly), Maps has location settings which can be disabled to prevent it using the GPS when the application itself isn't open.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Haomuch:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Just in case he has many LBS apps
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] airchie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What is the heaviest users of your battery according to your stats? What's your screen brightness?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] z3phyr02:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What average CPU temp are you guys getting? Mine idles at at least 40c, don't think I've seen it below 40. Is that normal?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] prim3:
Mine idles at 21.5C atm.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kaiowas82:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I'm on r53 with xylon and I cannot be more happy than this, really don't feel the need of playing with voltages and cores.

Franco you're truly talented, thanks for your hard work on this ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dkm911:
Occasionally my phone can not wake up, and I have to forcibly turn it off and reboot soon.

I use Xylon 019, is it the problem about Franco kernel??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aimcr7:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Whats your settings? Wifi all the time or 3G?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anarchy2cruo:
have a look all the screenshots. all freq -150 uv. i only did uv. nothing else. the governor didnt change either. im on wifi all the time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elzafir:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

This is just insane!

Please tell us your usage pattern, number of apps installed, connectivity settings (whether on Wi-Fi all day, 2G/3G/4G, brightness, sync on/off, etc.)

Because I think, 6h of screen time is really our goal in battery life, and the fact that you managed to achieve it would confirm that it is possible after all.

Thanks.

(Sorry for grammar, bit drunk hehe)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] w1ndhawk:
Is it just me or do the default display settings on francos kernel make your screen make less vibrant as compared to stock?

If this is done intentionally for battery saving, is there any method by which I can return display to factory settings?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
same for me max 2 hours of screen and max 8 hours of battery life as i use MiNCO..

and my biggest battery drainer beside screen is Android OS.. , if it's on 3G data.

biggest wakelock is msm_hsic_host
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fguy85:
I have the same problem on CM 10.1 M1 using r62.

on r53 the battey life was great but not smooth like r62
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cocchiararo:
could one of them be the fix to the "random" "msm_otg" wakelock when conecting it to a pc ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SubyWill:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

WOW :eek::eek::eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dadonking:
Who offers more? :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Now these become way too silly.

Can we stop these meaningless screen on time jerk offs?

If you want to make it meaningful, please explain what's your usage, what kernel settings you are on, what's the signal strength, and what's your screen brightness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] G1ukos:
Franco

I'd prefer the most reasonable solution for those, who use the phone as phone. Not as Super Computer device.

-Better battery life.

-Smooth browsing.

-Emails and texts.

-Some music with headphones.

-Lowest reasonable voltages and number of cores for it.

I HIGHLY doubt that anyone needs 4 cores, as default, even for games. They just don't understand it. And, as you told, they just want 8 cores at 100GHz NOW for no reason!

Of course you can make little "START NUCLEAR REACTION" checkbox in your app, which will activate all cores at 1.5Ghz and will shut down multitasking to achieve maximum possible results in a single application for super nerds, but will consume Plutonium.

I'd also prefer to have constant number of cores. I want to know, that it's 2 cores, or 1 core, or whatever.

I want control!

So let's make it optional

.

- reasonable build for normal people with phones.

- application checkbox or separate kernel download, if possible, for BIG NUMBERS lovers with supercomputers in their pants.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dadonking:
Just sarcasm because of lasts screenshots overloaded page.

Max 1,3 Ghz, noop scheduler, conservative governor with 98% up_threshold and undervolting.

WLAN at home and average reception on the road.

Display brightness i little bit less than 1/3 of full brightness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spncrmoo:
Really, so many unreasonable points made here. Posts like this make it seem like you're the real 'super nerd'.

I don't think it's odd that a lot of people spent their money on a powerful phone, and would like to just make sure they're getting the most out of it.

Sounds like the issue here isn't that people are treating their phones as super computers, just that you should've bought a second hand Nokia 3210 instead of a Nexus 4.

Everybody has their own requirements and opinions, stop being an ass making out like people are beneath you for having different expecations. Idiot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I would love to have a widget but you can switch CPU cores from 1 or 2 or 4 Okay I rebooted it seems like it's only 2 course now on our 62

logo:widget

F1 mode

F2 mode

F4 TURBO mode!

:lol:

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Are 62 is very smooth

Is battery temperature same as cpu temperature?

On lte now, temps are 40c! Phone is very hot

using google voice is horrible at times! anyways

r53 vs r62 UV

pros and cons:

r62 phone gets really hotter/faster , battery temps get up to 40c very fast for me, that burns!

scrolling is very smooth on the menus/screens in r62 uv -75 on conservative gov.

i think the battery drain with r62 is much greater when screen is off, im still figuring this issue out

on r53 i only lost like 4% in 8hours standby, i think im losing like 10% with r62
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tibere86:
I still find r61 the best solution. Smooth, great battery life, and CPU temps are cooler than r53 and r62. r62 runs really hot on my phone even with -125mv UV.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kboya:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Just a note for franco, no logs or anything, and this is not a complaint (been following and using since 22 or so, and I have bought the app).

I've changed my n4 kernel to morfic's trinity. The almost constant data drop moving from WiFi to mobile data forced this (and the regularity of this has increased post r28). I've tested both over the last couple of days and trinity swaps 90+%, Franco about 10+%.

I'll stay with Franco on my n7, because it is an awesome kernel, other the data drop/swap issue, and I'll happily return on the n4 if this improves. I'm sure you'll work it out, and I look forward to it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Siemser:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Had still 20% rest ;) I'm on r53 right now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I think your problem is not rom or kernel but wakelocks

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I think your problem is not rom or kernel but wakelocks..

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That is true. I have my GPS on all the time due to Cerberus (anti theft) and doesn't use battery at all, or at least that I can notice...

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That is true. I have my GPS on all the time due to Cerberus (anti theft) and doesn't use battery at all, or at least that I can notice..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jayjay2244:
Anyone seen this? Franco kernel case http://www.cruzerlite.com/community/francokernel/pre-order-franco-kernel-tpu-case-for-nexus-4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] danielvc:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Yes, on his G+ ;)

Tapatalked with my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jayjay2244:
Hmm just tested r61 on PA and it was laggy and i managed to get bellow 4000 on quadrant. Time to go back to r53 :)

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Would look better in black :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
Ya, r61 works really well, for my usage case scenario, r61 works the best. It's the smoothest and lasts the longest for me.

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tkalli:
From OP first post:

However, if you put any trust in Quadrant scores you could use them to prove that dancing naked for 5 minutes in your garden affects device performance. By Chainfire
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kaiowas82:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

That day I had wifi on all day, but when I'm at work on 3g I manage 4-5 hours screen on time anyway.

I have sync on for everything but Facebook and Twitter, brightness to auto all the time.

With xylon stable and r53 I found the best combination ever for me. Plus that few games I play all run smoothly, and the phone gets not too hot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dimatchka:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Do you guys use fast charge? As a check box in frankos app? Is it safe to use? When I had the s2 a lot of developers strongly recommended against using it on the s2. What about the n4?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Thanks for all the positive feedback in the last pages. Im looking forward to implement good code for everyone to enjoy a good kernel experience.

I got some ideas, but keep posting feedback, I read it every morning during breakfast.

Also thanks for the effort in making this thread a more enjoyable place, I have noticed a more positive and more helping attitude. Keep it up!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jayjay2244:
It wasnt just quadrant i just used it to confirm it felt more laggy.

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Is OTG support rom or kernel based? if so could it be implemented? ;) (looked back looks like board doesnt support :( ) anyone looking into it since?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I think ti would be nice to have it with 2 cores online then the other 2 cores come online when needed. I think that works nicely. I like it the way it is now though. Works wonders :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] javacody:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

62 is my favorite so far, but it would be nice to have a way to turn on 1 or 2 more cores.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

There is no otg support for the n4. And as far as I'm aware it won't be possible to get it either

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] steviewevie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

R62 is nice and smooth. I feel like maybe the battery life is worse for me compared to r53, so I am going back to r53 to see if that's really true or I just have a bad memory.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chughes13x:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I say stick with two cores running at all times with a companion widget that one can use to turn four cores on for heavy gaming and such and then turn it off to switch back. This way (as long as your remember to use the widget) you can get maximum battery life and also performance when you need it. Just my 2¢.