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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
I have noticed a minor bit of lag on the game with default settings but it's not too bad, I can still play the game without being distracted by lag :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vjales:
It's because when you're not touching on the screen, only cpu0 is activated. Right when you touch, it enables cpu1 and everything gets smoothly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zlatan9.:
Jep

TEMPLE RUN

Ondemand = smooth but 4 cores online all the time

Interactive = laggy but smooth for 1/2 seconds when touching screen

But interacrive is so smooth for the UI damn thanks franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] republitarian:
Thats because on demand keeps all for cores online. Personally I don't like the new hot plug settings. Going back to 146 or M2. Franco I hope you revert the changes or get the device to function properly with games that are not intensive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I'm really hoping all this new stuff finds its way over to the nexus 7 sometime soon :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ciprianruse88:
I feel the same. Previous hotplug settings where better. For me r142 is the best
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chintao:
Thanks for your post. Now i know why all 4 cores were always online. I reseted app data before flashing but on demand was selected o.0
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Way of life indeed.

There's no way I could ever buy a phone that's not supported by franco, morfic, rascarlo, simms. All the other guys that we have "met" the past year and a half or so and the ones we'll meet ahead.

Who'd want to move to a new city and leave all the mates behind?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
All wrong. Ondemand has nothing to do with hotplugging cores. I wont revert to what was before in terms of core logic. You have tools to give you control over your load logic, I wasted my time to code something for maximum user configuration. If you decrease the first level threshold before playing that non intensive game then it will be quad core all the time. If you measure your phone usage by how good it functions with games then something is not right. However with a slight change of speech if you would have asked me if there's still improvement margin in light gaming performance I would've said outright: yes. UI performance is my primary goal. The rest comes afterwards.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yup will be ported today to the N7 :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
r150 is smooth as fuk, loving it so far.. Temple Run 2 is laging but when u touch the screen the lag dissapears.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ki2luminati:
I just tried to set 4 cores online all the time with conservative governor. Seems really smooth all the way round. Now im gonna test battery with these settings and report back
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Great! I hope you intend on bringing across the dynamic scaling too. Iv been using dynamic interactive with cfq on my galaxy nexus for the last 2 days and its better than I remember, at times feeling a little smoother than my n7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] limeaide:
So very true.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cyberon:
Major lag on Bad Piggies, back to r148.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
I don't have lag with bad piggies or temple run 2.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ledionkoci:
No lag here too on riptide and nfs. Smoother than ever. Linaro version of r150
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Floydfire:
I think that responsiveness in ui implemented in 150 is awesome my finger is flying on keyboard while swiping! Gaming is not that important for me..

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Same, having lags on Bad Piggies and Temple Run 2.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] manulemaboul:
I love the new hot plug, simple and efficient, that's the way to go :).

I prefer seing you focusing on UI smoothness as gaming is like 5% of my usage and the only 2 ones I got runs fine for one and perfect for the other :).

Anyway, laggy game -> I drop it, not the kernel that's awesome for everything else :p

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Yay, I think I speak for all grouper owners when I say this will be a great update to the nexus 7 and I can't wait :)

Thanks Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Chintao:
Stupid question: which one is the default governor for 150?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Interactive :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] espionage724:
And N10? :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cyberon:
It's franco's kernel and he can do whatever he wants with it (franco don't get me wrong please, i love your work) but we have a quad core device which has to be able to play simple games and run a smooth ui right? :)

Things won't stay this way for too long, franco is an a outstanding developer and will fix it. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mjehan:
General APP smoothness is better. Playing Tempel run 2 is jerky throughout :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] defffizz:
Those of you who have lag while playing non intensive games (granny smith in my case) while on the interactive governor, try to lower down high load threshold to, i don't know, 50,40 instead keeping it at 70, after playing u can revert it, works like charm for me :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] republitarian:
I wasn't implying that on demand had anything to do with hotplugging, only that it runs all four cores.

As far as ui performance over gaming I completely understand and agree with you. BUT, on M2 (and up to 146) I can change three different thresholds which allow me to have ui performance and gaming. Now, with only 1 option (high load threshold) we are limited imo. Only way I can get some games to work is setting the threshold to 15 or less whereas on M2 I can run 20/40/70 and maintain fluidity throughout the phone without having all four cores running. I'm not measuring my phones use by how it runs games but rather as a "whole package".

nevertheless, its good to see that you will be improving gaming. Thank you for your great work!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
Yes, and Tasker – for those of you, who have it – works like a charm for this, allowing you to not move a finger and change the value for you depending on the foreground app. If in need for help with that, don't clog the thread, shoot me a pm, I'm always happy to answer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
I don't see why those with gaming performance issues just don't create a Power Mode profile.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Because people want to spoonfed instead of thinking for their selves.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Because people shouldn't have to open an app set the new mode and then play the game. They just wannt play the game :silly:.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Tools and options to fine tune things are all well and good.

Its not that people are judging how the device performs by games or even light games. People are just stating that playing them lags like crazy with the default settings on r150.

Sure there are many users who love to constantly tinker with every little setting all the time. You also got plenty of users that don't. They flash and leave it alone. Or flash and just change the colors. I would say that most don't want to tinker with a hotplugging setting just to play a casual game smoothly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
Then to those I'd recommend to stay at the nightly version that works for them (say #148) till Franco improves the performance of the kernel on these "medium load" apps/games. Or just stay with the milestones.

No offence meant, whatsoever.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blankit:
Yeah paranoid android and this kernel keeps dropping signal every two minutes or so
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Maybe its as simple as messing with go_hispeed_low and high values. I'll do some tests :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nixie2121:
I just got your paid app Franco thought it was time to support you for all the hard work you do for us.

For those using Paranoid Android which color scheme do you use?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TrenchKato:
Halp! r150 installed a virus on my phone... Can I use Odin yo get rid of it? :D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
The same as with the 999 for me, after some use something goes wrong with the onlining of the second core on touch and I start seeing some stuttering. When I watch the cores in System Monitor and I start dragging slowly, the second core comes online after about 3 to 5 seconds – seems random. Any idea, Franco?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Leegalaxy:
Yes but make sure you undo lagfix first.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] saramon:
Lol would if I could, but it would require another step, canceling my service... Stupid Sprint...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eXDee:
About to upgrade to 150 from 999. I'm getting slight lag in Chrome while scrolling sometimes, it's not until I swipe a little bit that the Page unsticks and then scrolls fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
Dually noted
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Chrome derp since Chrome for Android was deployed. Happens on all my devices, including the SGS4 octa core, all stock. Change to Chrome Beta, problem fixed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Incredible. I added the touch boost logic to Ondemand (simple 4 lines of code), changed it to my default, launched Temple Run 2 running lagless in Single Core O.o
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] techmatlock:
Chrome Beta with specific chrome://flags experiments enabled is bliss.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trillo69:
Can you be more specific please?

Actually, chrome stable v18 was very smooth, but everything went worse after that version. Still wonder why no one on Google noticed that, they should stop testing things on iOS.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
lol.. thats funny.. how that could happen?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eXDee:
I only use chrome beta, sorry should have mentioned.

Version 28.0.1500.31

It doesn't do it all of the time, i can't reproduce it consistently on r999. I've flashed r150 anyway and i've yet to have it do it so far. Though i imagine the logic hasn't changed between the two.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Dunno, different governor code. I'll keep testing, couldn't be having more fun than I am at the moment since yesterday's afternoon :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
haha, I know that feeling when you discover something new to play with :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] peikojose:
Sorry [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] this is the first time I feel some lag with one of your kernels.. With 150 :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Cuzz1369:
Read the last 3-5 pages.

Carbonized N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Lag doing what?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Actually Temple Run 2 is smooth on my other device OC to 1.5 GHz, single core.

But God the difference between r999 and r150 is night and day. Franco you scraped the r999 code and rewrite again. Amazing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] digitallysick:
MD5 checksum mismatch, i get this always now. Can nothing be done to solve the problem? If the hosts can't handle the traffic maybe its time to upload the kernels to mega or mediafire, something so at least users can download them
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TrenchKato:
I have to agree with this. I don't think Im particularly sensitive to microstutters as I didn't seen them in the r14x's. r150 started quick enough but with a little use I am noticing micro stutters in the launcher and gallery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
just clear app data then download... I always do this when I have MD5 checksum mismatch.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] digitallysick:
You were right that fixed the problem! thanks so much. Maybe the app needs a disclaimer popup advising that! Fixed thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Kinda of what should be expected to be honest. On a stock kernel it hardly ever goes past two cores online. It actually behaves basically just how mpdesicion behaves during any regular use.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Whats being done is that I'm going to change to a higher speed server for $300 a year so that everybody can enjoy a better service. Thats planned for roughly 15th of this month.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lorolouis:
Hi

Franco,

Is there a definitive conclusion about mobile data / 3G issues on r 143 - 148?

FYI, when I tested some of them and I ended to r140 the mobile data on was unchecked for some reason?

I don't remember I did this manually.

Great news - you made a major change and release r150.

Here is the snapshot of Nightly Changelog - how it looks on my dashclock extension:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
300 a year that's a lot for people who are ungrateful about the speeds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Hey Franco... After an hour if using 150 I started getting stutters using the UI just like a few other users posted... Don't have that problem with 148 though.

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4 \m/

ROM: PA 3.60

Kernel: Franco r148-Linaro

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Its an investment on the people that are grateful and like my code :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Savant:
I do agree with you .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Ok I think I nailed the lag on lighter games, check attached r1111.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eXDee:
Glad i bought your app then :good:

But have you considered changing Apache to nginx on the current server? Nginx is far better at handling static content downloads and is far lighter on resources, unless your issue is bandwidth capacity. Definitely worth looking into if you haven't.

Downloading. Will be sure to clear app data in case.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
I clicked on the button but I had to write it, thank you :)

For things like this I've never regretted any of my donations to Android developers, even if I've already purchased their apps. It's nice to give something back :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Seems like every time I scratch my ass there's a kernel to flash.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Its not my server. The problem is the speed limit, its currently around 15MB/s which on high demand times (when I release a new Kernel) the server reaches the limit and boom. New one will have 30MB/s and will be situated in a 80% less crowded server area.

Yup, its Christmas on every scratch ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
HAHA :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Looks like r1111 smooth to me, tested Temple Run (i dont play usually), seems normal fluid compared to r150 stutter here and there.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] goTouch:
Contacts is lagging a little bit when scrolling on r150.

It happens on interactive and ondemand

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] defffizz:
Flashed r1111, no more lag in games in which I noticed stuttering with r150, so it looks like good job
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ManOnTheMoon:
So much lag in nova. For some odd reason
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sNoxious:
Try this:

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ManOnTheMoon:
Changed high speed free to 1026. Way better
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RootTheMachine:
Someone posted this back in March, but you told them you didn't feel like doing kernel stuff that day. I just got a random reboot with this:

"MDM2AP_STATUS never went low. Doing a hard reset"
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Something related to the modem driver in the Kernel, but I don't know what it is, sorry.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tarroyo:
U made this change where?

Anyone zipped r111 franco posted few pages back???
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Haomuch:
r1111 noticeable smoother ui performance than r150
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sir*mez:
r1111 in a flashable zip.

r1111 in a flashable zip.

Hit the thanks button if I helped.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] admiez:
Hey [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] so there's been a lot of talk of lag and what not with r150. Just to steer the topic a little bit, after about 4 hours of running r150 I began experiencing the network reconnects issue once again. I had the issue in r143. Did not experience it in r146 (though there was no change), nor in the time I was in r147 and the two r999 tests. I rebooted moments ago and it has gone away for now and I'll wait and see if it reappears. I wonder what triggers it to start occurring.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tarroyo:
Thank you.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] icepuente:
I too can attest to the much laggier ui. I have noticed the ui experiencing more microstutters than I have seen in normal situations. Even Chrome Beta which is usually buttery smooth stutters every once in a while. Will try the test image out.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Janne79:
First of all thank you [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] for the new release. As mentioned by some other guys before there seems to be a problem with 4 cores online all the time. I flashed r150, cleared app data and set conservative Gov. When I realized a massive battery drain (20% in 1 hour with 13min SOT xda, browsing) I checked system monitor and there it was: all cores online all the time. Switched to interactive Gov and problem is solved. But there is something wrong with the conservative Gov, isn't it? The way it is now (at least for me) it's not as conservative as it is called :)

Conservative (default settings)

Interactive (default, dyn scal off)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] goTouch:
r1111 is definitely better than r150.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lordvj:
yes exactly I was on conservative too. using r1111 on interactive now. must say its running great. brilliant work franco :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] soumoks:
Hey kinda new here,what's the difference between r1111 and the latest nightly?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Same issue with conservative governor with high load threshold set to 100. It's also happening with ondemand.

Edit: Seeing this on r150 and r1111.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TrenchKato:
R1111 a test. A release candidate for the next nightly if you will...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] soumoks:
got it!,thanks a lot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Cores won't go offline on any governor besides interactive, I didn't account for users wanting to use other governors so I didn't add a logic for that. Will be fixed on the next one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] techmatlock:
Type "chrome://flags" into Chrome Beta URL bar.

Enable the following:

Override software rendering list

GPU Accelerated SVG Filters

Enable WebGL

Enable SPDY/4 alpha 1

Relaunch Now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chrome.beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zlatan9.:
You said cores wont go offline but on r1111 it goes offline on ondemand
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lordvj:
Ok an issue with r1111. it seems that hispeed freq is used very rarely. I've set the hispeed freq to 1026 and input boost to 702. cpu seems to be on 1512 and 702 for majority of the time. wasn't gaming obviously. just regular light usage - chrome, whatsapp and xda
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
Not here. In fact, Nova sucks because it's so smooth all the time that I can't see if there's any improvement between kernel versions :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m3lover1:
That's one of the changes in r1111.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes I think implemented it for ondemand on r1111.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Hispeed_freq is gone, Im tired of it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kara mustafa:
Hi Franco, I don't know what did you do with your kernel but there is no wifi delay anymore. Great work! Best kernel so far but latest problems with performance are a bit annoying :( Should we wait for the new nightly? I remember that GN was always super speedy:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
As soon as i flash 150 and reboot to the lockscreen i get kernel_panic

http://pastebin.com/ZeKEVcAr

Edit: Ok i can't even sleep..there is another version released!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Sukhi:
I am back on the first #999 released yesterday after trying #1111 and second #999. I am not a hard core gamer and for me it delivers the best battery with no lags at all. With just -50 UV, the drain at regular surfing on web, tapatalk and facebook is bare min. Best release for me after #134.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Cantacid:
Well flashed 150 before going to bed, and put the phone on charge. I woke up to see this.

This has never happened to me on any build, I like to keep a watch on my wakelocks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
So Franco, what have you concluded regarding the governors?

Ondemand or Interactive?

Are you still thinking of making your own governor from scratch?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Cuzz1369:
Trying to test with temple run 2 and the game just shuts down. No warning no toast saying anything.

Logcat

http://db.tt/OCXpkfME

Tested on a couple kernels. This is 142

Carbonized and francofied N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
Can someone modify latest kernel to get it work with miui? It bootloops atm
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TrenchKato:
Normal. Phone does not sleep when on the charger....

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
Mine sleep normally on charger
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
There is no deep sleep while charging.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
Now that you are saying it i think im gona agree cause there are no wakelocks while charging!so my bad!

Btw i have two new wakelocks with 1111 the first two wakelocks i never seen them before!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Floydfire:
Franco is normal that on 1111 in fku I have only the high load configurable in hot plug menu? BTW 1111 is smooth also on games

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION]

I've been on r150 for about 4 hours, and the lagging and stuttering are back. cpu0 frequency is not stuck but cpu1 is not onlining on 99% of the touches. An hour ago I tested it and cpu1 was onlining on 100% of the touches. It seems your attempted fix didn't work. Any other information you need?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] republitarian:
That's not from r1111
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] republitarian:
Stupid app had to double post to add image
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
I love your drain -14%/h..damn you killed the phone! :P In 1111 i saw them for the 1st time..i know its not the kernels fault..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trailblazerz11:
On 150 seems that after awhile the cores on touch stops working. I left my phone idle while playing bball for a couple hours, afterwards noticeable lag and found with system monitor that the 2nd core was not onlining on touch. While constantly swiping, it onlined a couple times but immediate offlined. Reboot fixed.