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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Err0xx:
Yea well reducing the processor to that low of a clock speed is partly responsible for the crazy ass battery life of this phone. I'd rather have another millisecond of unlock time and gain several hours of battery life. Fine with me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ShadowVlican:
i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...

i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Err0xx:
Look at the Engadget review of the Nexus 4. The note 2 (exynos) beat the snapdragon s4 pro in 4/6 benchmarks and they felt like the exy was better in normal use and battery efficiency. Just look up Nexus 4 review on engadget- Nexus 4,Optimus G, note 2 are all compared. Look at the benchmark table. Note 2 wins 4/6.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] CraigP17:
I love the power and speed of my note.... But seriously, benchmarks mean nothing to me. It's real life usage that matters. . Not an app that measures potential.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Hemlocke:
I've never seen any huge advantage of the Exynos processors over any others, mainly because they are just stock ARM designs. If Samsung wanted to impress me, they would pay for an architecture license. The A6 is pretty hard to beat, given the performance AND battery life, and I really like my S4 Pro, although it is a bit of a juice hog.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jackxlj:
The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Techweed:
That's why you see iphones perform very well despite the specs looking like they are lacking. The iphone 5 after playing with it is just as fast as my Note 2 but it's only dual core and clocked much lower. RAM is also lower.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Mad383Max:
Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ThaiM:
How long of a lag are you talking about? Are you sure it's not the home button lag from S Voice being enabled?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Techweed:
One area Apple has excelled in is GPU performance. I'm surprised Samsung doesn't push the limits in this area harder. I don't play games much myself but as you said it goes beyond just playing your favorite games on a phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] FatalityBoyZahy:
Nexus 4 <3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] a.vandelay:
exynos is king right now (i'm ignoring apple, since it's not apples-to-apples, excuse the pun). exynos 5 is going to be ridiculous. actually it already is, inside the samsung chromebook.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jackxlj:
Normally id say cant wait for the note 3 with the quad xenyos 5, but im happy with the note 2, and I hope they wait a year before releasing it. No more 6 month life cycles please
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Hemlocke:
No, not even close. A6/A6X are heavily modified ARM, and Exynos is just tweaked stock. Samsung doesn't have the architecture license, last I checked. Apple does.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
About 800 ms, so almost a full second. I'm positive it is not the S Voice.

It occurs every time the phone wakes up from deep sleep, so if anybody isn't experiencing it on this phone, they have a wakelock and their Note 2 isn't going into deep sleep. There's a thread here in the General section where I was trying to get people together to figure out the cause and fix it. Some of the knowledgeable Devs chimed in to confirm that it's an issue with the processor that has existed on all recent Exynos processors and nobody knows of a way to solve it through software other than creating a wakelock, but you're sacrificing quite a bit of battery life if you do that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Err0xx:
I havent been to this thread yet but its not an "issue". Its intentional to make sleep battery life through the roof, which it is. The sleep CPU state is so low that it simply takes a bit to wake. With how much android has going on, it can't push the OS until the speed increases, which takes time. If you're rooted, which I'm not, go in and make your minimum CPU speed 350ish and this wakelock is heavily decreased- as is battery life.

The exynos sleeps at around 58mhz on the note 2 compared to around 186 on the one x. So the sleep battery life is greatly improved but 58mhz is only able to power core sleep features (syncing, updates,etc) while other features (desktop, lock screen, wallpaper, etc) is stored in ram. So the short delay is ramping the CPU up, pulling and loading the items stored in ram, then loading them.

The short wait is worth the battery gain and there isn't a way to decrease this pause without murdering sleep battery life.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] angryphoton:
a bit OT, but what is "deep-sleep"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jackxlj:
Ok so apple can add extra instruction sets to the cpu and sammy cant. Sammy can and does widen and deepen the pipeline, add asmp, and alter the arm design to include partial ooo sequencing. Infact the company apple bought to design the A6 also designed the e4 for sammy...apple added extra instruction sets to the a6 and it is working for them, samsung cant but they have altered the design enough that the e4 can stand toe to toe with the monster that is qualcomms new quad core cpu that has arm added instruction sets that improve processing power by 65% and reducing power consumption by 35%. But your right I wasnt even close...go ahead and google some die shot pictures of the a6 and e4...the onboard logics are laid out almost mirror perfect, silly huh

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Deep sleep is a power state of the cpu that uses almost now power.the cpu speed and functions are cut to the bare minimum. Samsung has a very very deep sleep state, it causes a second lag when you wake it up before the screen turns on. Its why our phones get such great battery life when we dont use em, still great when we do, but our standbye time is amazing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] yas1987:
Apples iphone 5 maybe just as fast as the note 2 but: Iphone UI is so limited, and so simple it can easily run of dual core, It has no widgets, app layout, screen pages, safari they are all optimized to work. For true desktop experience , NO way will the iphone 5 put up a fight, whereelse NOTE 2 especially after multiview can accomplish this easily. Also once you jailbreak the iphone, get winterboard along with few other tweaks like callbar etc. you will see the phone get a little laggy. Wherelse, with the note 2, 4 pages of apps + widget s + SOOOOO MANY MORE APPS and background processes running, it's still ridiculously fast. So yes iphone 5 is FAST but it doesnt provide the same experience which IMO is better on the note 2 which is just as fast as the iphone 5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
I don't think it takes 800ms for a CPU to ramp from 58mhz to max. That would be a really unresponsive processor. Entropy512's explanation is probably the right one:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33978159&postcount=26
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Err0xx:
You're right. It's the memory loading cap. The processor ramps up much faster but is bottlenecked by the ram/internal storage speed. I never said it was 100% processor dependant.

If you look at one of my last sentences in my post you'll see I list 3 things.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyrocket23:
I believe the lg is better. It is smooth. No lag and a great phone. Hmmmm how long did u have the lg for drakeymcmb?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Err0xx:
I have an Optimus G laying on my coffee table and I have done hours of side by side comparisons. In virtually every task the gnote 2 kills it. The note 2 has been my daily use phone since ive had it and I currently own every top tier device that yoy can get. That should say something foe the device.

The LG optimus G is nowhere near as good in overall performance or smoothness. Is the optimus g a good phone? Sure. But the note 2 is way better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] lude219:
People always seems to forget about screen size.

I don't know if most of you remember, but a few years back, the 5in dell streak ran identical hardware to its 3.5in-4in counterparts with 512mb of RAM and singlecore 1ghz qualcomm cpu, and that thing was slower than watching paint dry, and rightfully so.

Now with the Note2, it's amazing how it's fairing BETTER (or at least able to keep up) than the competitors with smaller screen and better hardware. I'll admit that the new krait dual and quadcores are monsters compare to the Exynos 4412, but I have to give Samsung props for tweaking it so that the giant screen doesn't become an issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sabre31:
A6 kills all mobile processors out there hands down. I am an android phone user but let's be honest here. I wish note 2 had an A6.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] C.Flat:
The streak had the same resolution screen as the other phones
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] vista1984:
A6 wont come to android ever..its hard to compare under different platforms. so until it happens, I dont agree a6 is the best arm processor.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] shaolin95:
A giant screen makes no difference is the resolution that matters.

In any case the Note 2 is a beast and I love it!

Sent from the Mighty Note International!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] ferris2375:
Install Soft Locker and your problem will go away
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Grammar Nazi at work here:

OP corrected for better comprehension in English :p

Corrections in bold.

You're welcome!

Now, in response to your actual post, I wholeheartedly concur with your assessment of the Exynos platform. In fact, Exynos is one of the primary reasons for which I have avoided using domestic devices and imported instead. Qualcomm is good, but it's not Exynos good! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] highlanderx:
The skyrocket is a PIECE OF JUNK that love the lagfest. Traded it in for a 4S and 150$ just to get RID OF IT...

This one on the other hand... is really the android experience I should have had in the first place... maybe 4.1 has a lot to do with it.. but the OGS2 was miles ahead of the skyrocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] hallo13th:
I had an s2 sold it made the mistake of getting the laggy pos skyrocket, traded it back for an s2. The skyrocket was awful I will agree!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] slaydog:
Love the processor on this phone too, but just noticed that on top of the phone on the right side there is a little clear sticker that says "Qualcomm 4G" . Everyone else have that, lol? Does that refer to some other piece of hardware?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] colonel187:
Maybe you didn't know this but the A6 is made by Samsung. In fact most of the iPhone parts are Samsung.

Ps i can't mention Apple without mentioning how much i dislike them and their NOT innovative products.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
It's the radio.

I hate Apple too, but I must thank them for providing competition that improves our products. If iPhone didn't get such good battery life then Android manufacturers wouldn't be beefing up batteries. I just hope iPhone keeps getting better so my Android options will keep getting better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] mr mystery:
Qualcomm makes the baseband processor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jade Eyed Wolf:
I know this has pretty much already been said, but when you have a completely different OS running with a completely different kernel, using a completely different instruction set for the software, it's really not right to compare the A6 to the Exynos platform. I mean, have you SEEN Android running on an A6? If you have, THEN maybe you'd have something to compare between A6 vs Exynos 4412 Quad.

If anything, I think the only real advantage that the A6 has over the Exynos 4412 Quad would be the GPU (PowerVR SGX-543 vs Mali-400), but in terms of everyday use, both platforms are beasts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] wtharp2:
Not only do I have the sticker, but I can barely read it. I originally found it as a semi-rough/peeling spot on my phone and thought I had damaged the phone. There is this little oval-shape. Then i figured out it was too precise to be a damage spot, then I saw the wording.... <pfew!>
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] warrenkb:
I just got the OTA and no I dont have the link as I am at work and did not want to wait to extract it. Just letting other yakju's know they should be seeing it shortly.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Just ordered my galaxy note 2 and I got it for $249 :D from let's talk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] evilgenyus:
Congratulations hope you love as much as I do mine. Just got it on sunday and cant put it down.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] rhoel:
I have an og evo. My upgrade is Nov 1st, can't wait to get the Note 2. Might even say bye to my Nexus 7 also... Not really, probably just giving it to my daughter ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Skripka:
Paying the $50 upgrade fee is so worth it. Don't miss my evo4g and miui jelly bean rom one bit :beer:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] rjc2233:
Just got my note today from wirefly. I loved my Evo, but I'm already in love with my note
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Awesome. I'm gana install miui on my evo 4g give it to my mom. :D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Tried wire fly but letstalk.com had it at a lower price and they gave me free over night shipping
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] illb456:
I'm in the same boat, upgrading from the OG Evo. Using Best Bug's buyback program should net me around $150 for it, plus I have a $50 Best Buy gift card :cool:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Just got my note 2 :D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Now to root and install a rom. Any suggestions on a good rom to install fellow flashoholics.:D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Skripka:
Do ya like Touchwiz or not? If you like stockish but want less bloat try UltraLight.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Yea I like touch wiz I'll probably try it out
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] bill323:
It seems that there really are a lot of Evo 4g converts to the GN2.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Skripka:
That is because evo4g development of 3rd party ROMs has basically ground to a halt...and N2 is a hell of a device.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
I agree.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] sbuxreg:
HTC Hero ==> Evo 4g ==> Evo 4g LTE ==> Galaxy Note 2

The only thing i really liked better about the HTC phones was the sense Dialer. (i have fixed this w/ exDialer) and it seems to me they scratched less easy which i know i will get slammed on for being my fault for not using a screen protector. Wish the otterbox defender for the GNII would hit shelves soon!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] fsunoles101:
So glad to see familiar faces from the OG forum. Had my evo for 3 years and enjoyed it from the start. Now, I have moved on to the SGN 2. Rooted it the night I got it last week. Gave my son my evo with JamieG and Ropedopes awesome Reloaded rom. Excited to see how far the SGN2 can go. So far I am real impressed with the phone and it's community. Now off to do more of what I learned the first day in the OG forums........READ.

Sent from my SGN 2----Fear the Spear

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Sorry, misspelled Ropodope.

Sent from my SGN 2----Fear the Spear
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] loveshinesthru:
Dont forget to update first so you get multi-window.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] techdeisel:
Great post from a fellow noles fan damn right fear the spear didn't get the note couldn't drop the 199 like did for th og so I got the Xperia ion digging it bye the way now I'm noled out att cell Comcast internet go noles
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] jamexman:
After owning HTC devices I learned one thing. HTC sucks :D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
I dont think htc suck and I like the sense ui. I never owned a samsung phone before and I think the note 2 is great device but I prefer the htc sense look than the touch wiz ui even though touch wiz have more features
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skw5115:
+1 here...I may however be a little biased because most of the phones I have owned have been htc and this is my first samsung device so I enjoy the htc sense experience over touch wiz but I do think that they did an amazing job with this phone and wouldnt trade it for any htc or any other device on the market today
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] loveshinesthru:
I loved my orig evo, but I hated sense!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] tial50mm:
Custom Rom GN2 Highly recommmended/ JellyBomb

Team Venum JellyBomb Roms are the BOSS....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
I plus that
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Already running that rom and yes it's a beast of a rom. And the battery life is very good.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] lovekeiiy:
I order my GN2 on Wednesday night. Transitioning from the original Evo 4g, which has served me well, but shows it age. Had to replace battery, screen protector. I enjoy it most running CM7. Loved Boot Manager on it, so I could have a bare minium Sense/stock rom, CM7, and CM9 on it.

I really hope something like Boot Manager comes to the GN2. Then I can have a favorite rom, and try out the other flavors without a full commitment.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
What I find interesting is that a lot of people who are upgrading or upgradedt o the note 2 used to have or is upgrading to the note 2. But I notice that most of the evo devs have no interest in the note 2. :(
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] 6666:
Just got mine. This is my first non htc smartphone (Ive exclusively bought htc smartphones since way back in the windows mobile days.) Between battery life and bad driver issues I decided on this galaxy note to replace my evo 3d instead of of the evo lte. So far I am very happy with my choice. Will touchwiz get modded to hell like sense always did? I am running an alternate launcher in hopes that in time touchwiz will get modded to allow more rows/columns and also work in landscape. Does touchwiz get any of these types of mods traditionally? I really miss text reformatting when zooming in on webpages as well but I guess I have apple to thank for that. So touchwiz isn't as pretty as sense, but I would use it if developers get some mods going on it. Either way I am super happy with this device and am happy to be away from htc driver nightmares and horrible battery life
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] odean14:
Cool
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] randyreed1971:
Exactly. I came from the EVO 4G running Karma ROM and I have to say so far so good though. The screen is killer! Rooted the night I got it with jellybomb. Trying to figure out now how to change PRL's as for some reason when I dial the code into the phone nothing is happening.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] loveshinesthru:
Because you need to be on a stock dialer.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] KB112:
You can change the TW layout, app drawer and make it go landscape etc. Just need to flash the mods. Some ROMS have these as optional flashes, or you can download them individually. My stock launcher rotates to landscape layout on stock touch wiz.
[Thunderbolt General] grneyedbrotha:
With the [ROM] CM9 / LiquidSmooth / AOKP / Random ICS build, is anyone else getting the grayed out 4G signal indicator instead of the usual light blue?
[Thunderbolt General] heath2805:
Yes everyone is on Twisted's latest build. He already knows about this and is working on it. It doesn't bother me as long as it works who cares. Just my opinion though.
[Thunderbolt General] geoff5093:
I think you misunderstood his question, the issue on his builds is that the signal bars don't show properly on 4G. For instance on his earlier builds I got 2 bars all the time on 4G (or 6 full bars with the 6 bar signal mod), but with his new build I get no bars on 4G.

The gray and blue colors always work though, it shows whether or not your phone can communicate with Google.
[Thunderbolt General] heath2805:
I understood it correctly. The reason why it has always shown the same bars is because the RIL was hacked. No legitimate sources were ever given to build ics AOSP. Team liquid hacked the RIL to make it work. Its been like that since day one. But Twisteds new build doesn't show any blue bars in the signal and is currently working on that. Correct?
[Thunderbolt General] grneyedbrotha:
I agree; I just wanted to make sure I was not the only one.
[Thunderbolt General] FirePsych:
Right now on the 11/18 release on .9 radios I have 2 blue bars on 3g and blue "bars" on WiFi. LTE stays gray but u will get up/down arrows when there's data.

I'm also getting a more consistent signal and slightly better battery life with the .9 radio compared to .19.
[Thunderbolt General] grneyedbrotha:
Thanks for the heads up on the radio.
[Thunderbolt General] udis:
Def gonna check out the radio I think I'm using the .19 ones and I have the same thing here gray 4G always with 2 bars. Love the rom though. Tried a couple other ics ones but to me this one is the best.
[Thunderbolt General] disconnecktie:
Signal bars show the correct color for me and the data arrows work correctly on the .19 radios with the new build. This isn't a radio related issue just so you guys know. If it is gray or the signal isn't correct it is probably smali related.
[Thunderbolt General] Dark Jedi:
To think if the op would of read twisted rom thread. He would of known right quick its a known issue and why it doesn't display the signal bars. Everyone who is using latest build their 4g shows no bars.
[Android Apps and Games] lwclam:
Thanks for the 4.1 update.

But I don't understand or find any setting about this new function:
[Android Apps and Games] krohnjw:
There's no setting.

Here's what happens now. Let's say you want to write a message that is 100 bytes, but your tag is read-only or you tag is only 48 bytes. Since the entire message can't be written (or anything written) the payload is mapped locally on your device and keyed on the ID. If we can write to the tag we'll write a small message to aid in filtering.

However this breaks anyone else using this tag as the commands aren't on the tag (boo). To get around this when you write these tags the payload is pushed out to a cloud service we set up that keys on the tag's ID (this happens in the background and transfers very little data, just the size of the payload).

Now, when you scan that tag you use the local mapping.

When anyone else scans this tag NFCTL will see that

1.) it has no data and

2.) their device doesn't have a local mapping for that and will query the server to see if there's a mapping present to use. If it does it will grab that, cache it locally and then execute those actions.

Now when either of you re-scan the tag you're using a cached version of the commands and there's no network transfer or query performed. This also prevents someone else from re-writing your locally mapped tag and changing your actions.

The other benefits this holds is that if you lose your app data all of your tags will still work (the payload will be pulled down on the first tap and cached) and I've leveraged this back end to make sharing tags easier if you want to send someone a tag you've created.

Let me know if that doesn't make sense :)
[Android Apps and Games] andrewilley:
Nice idea, but could I suggest that - just for people's peace of mind in a paranoid world - you add an option to make a tag 'private' - i.e. it only gets stored on your own phone, not on the cloud.

There might be odd occasions where you only want something to happen on your own phone, rather than anyone who happens to scan the tag. <Quickly deletes http://www.horny-porny-porn.com from all my tags :)>

Andre