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[Nexus 4 General] diablonyc2:
Question of the day:

In a room you have:

- Santa Claus

- The Easter Bunny

- A Google Customer Service Specialist

Someone places a $100 bill on the floor....who picks it up?? lol
[Nexus 4 General] :
A tough one.

Lucky guess no one? :D
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I am not sure, one is supposed to contact me today though, they will probably just change their email signature from service rep to shipping specialist. :rolleyes:

Damn, I knew I should have ordered one sooner!
[Nexus 4 General] diablonyc2:
lol -- -CORRECT
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Lmbo!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] strobex:
So, as the dust settles, how many of us are there?
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Still here
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
I am still here.... That makes two of us!

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
3

Limbo Land The Betrayed!
[Nexus 4 General] kgeissler:
number 4
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Make that 5

I SHOULD be one of the last to get a phone, in all fairness. I ordered less than an hour before the website went from "Coming Soon" to "Sold Out."
[Nexus 4 General] asn5014:
What time did you order? I'm in a similar boat. I ordered at 4:43 pm EST (that was of course after waking up at midnight and 3 am to see that they were not for sale yet, and then Google Play not letting me process my order between 11:40am and 1:00pm). Luckily my contract with Verizon expires on 11/24 so I have a few days to spare anyway. Just as long as it doesn't extend into my next billing cycle, which it looks to be cutting it close.
[Nexus 4 General] Sandman2749:
Here as well.

I went on to order 1 but after the dust cleared I had 2 orders.

Order #1 almost went through but received an error at the last second. This is the one now in limbo 3. (9:36 MST)

Order #2 had errors as well but finally went through and is due to be at my door today. (9:44 MST)

So, can I really complain. Meant to get 1 and will have it today. The 2nd is just gravy so the wait isn't as bad.
[Nexus 4 General] BigAtrain:
IN!!! 6
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Sometime after 6:30 pm CST.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Still here lucky number 7.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I'm still here as well.
[Nexus 4 General] diablonyc2:
I am here. I guess we are Nexus Expendables. VIP guests of the Black Cloud Diner!
[Nexus 4 General] tulongest:
I'm still here too... Looks like we'll be Limbo Level 3 for life :(
[Nexus 4 General] zainqaiser:
I am still here...ordered at about 5:30pm Est..
[Nexus 4 General] iTeeXDA:
I got the preorder email on the 13th. What limbo level does that put me on

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] Qbancelli:
Here to the end...
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
Just got the "specialist" email, along with some history re-writing on the part of a past rep.
[Nexus 4 General] Ranguvar:
Still here too, obviously.

My specialist is continuing to specialize in non-communication.

As in you got referred to a specialist or the specialist actually emailed you back? If the latter, what did they say?
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Yeah I've heard a lot of people including myself get referred to the specialist however I don't have any reports of any contact with the mysterious specialist.
[Nexus 4 General] kgeissler:
Specialists are like the Loch Ness Monster. People have heard about them, but no one has actually seen them.
[Nexus 4 General] plinkous:
Level 3 here too. My status had said "shipping estimate November 15" but this morning it changed to "pending."
[Nexus 4 General] jrush4:
I'm still around, I ordered 09.54 GMT here in the UK, order hasnt changed, never had a shipping estimate. If we don't get any news in the next few days I'll ring up and give them a piece of my mind!

Nah but in all seriousness I'll probably just continue to wait and be really passive aggressive in any email correspondence between me and CSR, the old 'shipping within 3 weeks' is just so they have a large time frame to get everyone's orders done, they must have a more specific date, I don't see how it's possible to order however many devices from LG and have no estimated date. I'd even be happy for CSR just to tell me they don't actually know, I'd much rather hear 'we have no idea what's going on, we'll let you know when we do.' Obviously bad for business, but it can't be any worse than the mess they've gotten themselves/us into.
[Nexus 4 General] Emama:
If you got the BO email you need to wait 2 more weeks.

That's the response I got this morning
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
It'll be interesting once they start shipping back orders to see if they have a special surprise in the box with it.
[Nexus 4 General] jrush4:
Like a free wrist strap? :P
[Nexus 4 General] JohnMiroki:
welcome on board!
[Nexus 4 General] Emama:
I don't expect anything,

I emailed them and ask if they can add the bumper for me now since my phone is not shipped yet, so I can save my bumper shipping fees.

They just replied the above msg to me.

I think the customer service now copy and paste and reply every email about nexus 4 without reading thru it
[Nexus 4 General] kgeissler:
What is really going to suck is when they get more Nexus 4's in stock, but not enough to cover all the backorders. So half of the Limbo Level 3's will get the device and the other half will have to wait another 3 weeks... I can totally see this happening.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
They do not collect money until they ship the item. It is not only their policy, but also the lawful way to do it. So no, Larry Page didn't buy an Armand de Brignac with your.cash yet.

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I originally thought they would progressively ship the backorder within the first week and may take up to 3 weeks to get all of them. I now don't believe that anymore and they probably chose to make it harder and ship it all at once again

.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Like a turd?
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
LOL!

They're going out of their way.. by refunding the shipping costs :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] lombardo8:
Limbo Level 3 reporting for duty sir!
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
Agreed. My order went through at 5:36pm Eastern time. I have to say that it was not for lack of trying!

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] mikecousins:
Patiently waiting for my 16GB while using my friend's 8GB that has arrived already :)
[Nexus 4 General] vdaves:
Would you be able to confirm how much space is actually available on your friend's 8gb?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] mackster248:
What does limbo lvl 3 even mean? Aren't you either back ordered, or not...?
[Nexus 4 General] Emama:
received back ordered email, the betrayed group - LIMBO3
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Still waiting on my mysterious 'specialist' to email me, it has been 48 hours.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Don't hold your breath. You'll get your nexus 5 before that imaginary puto calls you.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Sweet, I should probably put that order in now so it will get here on time.
[Nexus 4 General] Kushblow:
Got the specialist bit, the lady was very helpful and promised she'd email me back as soon as the specialist responded. It just confirmed my greatest fear. Pending = backordered for 3 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] Boxla4:
I am here as well. I feel extra betrayed when I see some of you here with me ordered hours and hours later than me. No hate though, I'm sure you all tried at launch and were unlucky.

Anyways I ordered at 8:40am PST and am currently in limbo level 3. I have not tried to contact google about it, doesn't seem like it will help in the least.
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Lol I wonder who understood the puto part

Limbo Land The Betrayed!
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Urban Dictionary ftw
[Nexus 4 General] jt.61:
They told me they are shipping out this week, and mine should ship soon...
[Nexus 4 General] BR_Impulse:
And you received a backorder email and are in Limbo Level 3? What time did you order, and where do you live? (man I sound like a stalker rofl)
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Also your hair/eye color and blood type.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Yeah how tall are you, whats your phone number?
[Nexus 4 General] kenjiwing:
My bumper order is still pending from opening morning

what the ****
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Thats sold out too, so that may be back ordered as well.
[Nexus 4 General] jrush4:
I sent an email earlier today, the response pretty much confirms that they don't even bother reading the emails before they respond with a copy a paste reply. Didn't even ask when it'd ship, got the 'it'll ship within 3 weeks' nice going!

In other news, the bumpers never sold out here in England, I guess we're not as careful with our phones as everyone else :P
[Nexus 4 General] Qbancelli:
I think our Nexus 4 are being manufactured as we speak....

Early December is my guess.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Your guess is good as anybody's else's guess.
[Nexus 4 General] ifanboys:
we LL3ers are no longer the betrayed.... we r the LEFTOVER!

:mad:
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
Seriously considering the note 2 if it goes on sale for less than $550 on black Friday. I only have till the 12/5 to port my number to straight talk from Sprint or I will get charged $350. I am concerned it will take the full 3 weeks.

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Do you have an old flip phone or something you could change the number to first instead?
[Nexus 4 General] Emama:
are u really in US limbo
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
They told me I should have had my device yesterday. Don't listen to a thing they say. They have no idea whats going on,the CSRs don't know if I am on back order or not unless I tell them I am.
[Nexus 4 General] Thandrophir:
So, I got to play with a co-worker's Droid DNA and I must say... it's a beast of a device. The screen is beyond gorgeous and it's not as absurdly large as I expected. On top of that, I still have an unlimited data plan with Verizon...

Please help me stay strong, my fellow Limbokin!
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
That is why they told you that your phone would arrive earlier. You miss led them to believe you did not get a back order email.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Do what you gotta do bro. That screen has to be massive battery hog, though.
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
I wish I did. I was going to pick one up on craigslist but remembered I have a micro sim due to the nexus 4

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
No I had told him I got the back order email, he knew. He still told me I was supposed to get the shipping email. I got another email yesterday that told me I should receive a phone yesterday, then I got off the phone with someone yesterday that told me I was supposed to receive a tracking number last night. At 0400 this morning I got an email that told me they would ship it within the 3 week time frame. They have no idea what is going on.
[Nexus 4 General] delgado3891:
Cancelled my order

Well after quietly following the thread since launch day, I couldn't take Google's lack of responsibility they feel towards their customers anymore. I was one of the many that received the now infamous BOE with the 3 week window. At first I was going to let it pass but just the lack of communication and generic answers the CSR dish out just became too much for me. Went to T-mobile store in Manhattan and picked one up. Ordering this phone online though Google should have been just as easy as me walking into T-mobile and walking out with the phone. In less than a half hour, I was enjoying my Nexus 4. Hopefully something is learned from all this but I'm pretty sure it won't. Good luck to those on the waiting list. I hope you get your phones sooner than later.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Dang sorry man, but if it ships within the 3 weeks we were quoted the second time you should still have a 2 day leeway to switch numbers.
[Nexus 4 General] Pyroshane:
You can pick up an adapter to make it fit in a mini SIM phone for pretty cheap on Amazon or eBay. Hopefully you don't need it, but if you decide to stick it out for the N4 and it starts getting a bit too close for comfort, you have an option.
[Nexus 4 General] jt.61:
Yeah I am, every time I call they say something different. I doubt everything they say until I'll get my shipping email.
[Nexus 4 General] Dr Zoidberg:
Perhaps I'm paranoid, but I think I was placed in a group of limbo 3's that didn't get shipping because of perceived negative comments and demands for compensation I made on XDA. They didn't link me via username, but they could have done so via IP.

Call me crazy, but you would be paranoid as well if everyone was out to get you. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] DLFB:
for the members of the club:

how many of you ordered 2 or more?

just curious.

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Seriously I would just get that device at this point. I can't imagine on how gorgeous 440ppi is on a 5 inch screen. My boring days @ work would never be the same.
[Nexus 4 General] demosthen3s:
Anyone know the process for buying one from t mobile and then returning before 14 days? I imagine you have to pay a restocking fee?
[Nexus 4 General] DLFB:
I'm sure not everyone knows this, but this is where it starts:

If you think the conflict diamond/chocolate trade is bad, the conflict mineral trade is the worse out there. At the very least they TRIED to regulate the diamond/chocolate trade by having major companies ONLY get it from legit sources (I doubt everyone follows though), but the mineral trade is so open nobody cares. I'm not going to be some hypocrite here, but just an fyi to those who don't know.

#sadreality
[Nexus 4 General] Kougaa:
2 x 16g here.

Order date: Nov 13 11:44 EST

I read somewhere that they simply BO'd everyone who ordered "in bulk".
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
This is just more disturbing.... I am speechless now... what the hell is going on at Google?!

http://m.androidcentral.com/play-store-now-pushing-8gb-nexus-4-buyers-t-mobile
[Nexus 4 General] :
The funny thing that the link to T-Mobile says "Sold Out" as well.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Who cares what t mobile is selling? I don't understand why this makes anyone angry. Maybe I am missing simmering here.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] :
Micro SIM - Check

Number Port - Check

Nexus 4 - Yeah right............FU Google
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Google is out of stock on N4 so they're telling us to go buy it from T-Mobile when the whole point of the nexus program is to be carrier FREE.
[Nexus 4 General] norazi:
it is carrier free... all models of the N4 are unlocked and have no carrier bloatware... it doesnt matter where you buy it from

in fact, it makes more sense that T-Mobile is selling it... everyone and anyone should be selling this phone

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so you would prefer to not even have any choice of where to buy if Play Store sells out?
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
If you get another subsidized Verizon phone, they cut you off the unlimited plans, though; so they'd have to buy it at full price to keep the unlimited plan. And $600 is a lot to swallow for a phone that likely won't last a power user all day. If you can't handle the wait, I'd say buying the N4 from T-Mobile for $500 is a better deal considering how much cheaper the service will be than Verizon in the long run. Unless you're not attached to Android, in which case AT&T is selling the Lumia 920 and HTC 8X for $450 off-contract.
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
2 x 8 GB, single order.
[Nexus 4 General] lombardo8:
They are not useless idiots. They are only as good as the information they've been provided with.

I used to work in CS and it was easier to get rid of your type by just blagging and telling you what you want to hear.

What part of "within 3 weeks" do you need a CSR to explain to you?

Stop taking out your frustrations of lowly paid and stressed out CSRs. The real idiots are the organ grinders who have chosen not to provide good information. Now find Larry or Serge's number and get dialling.
[Nexus 4 General] mackster248:
CSR's don't make the phones, they don't control when and how they're distributed. They're just simply the middle man between Google and you for customer service. They're only given so much info, so we can't blame them at all.

Besides, the e-mail clearly says within 3 weeks.

So when will we get our device? Well.... Within 3 weeks lol.
[Nexus 4 General] mr71mb0:
The CSR's have only ever been polite and professional to me when I have called / emailed, which is impressive given that they are probably being bombarded already by the same questions over and over and there isn't really anything they can do about the situation. At this stage, no amount of calling or emailing them will get your phone any quicker, the issue is further up the chain than them.

As frustrating as it is if you are on back order you just have to wait till they ship you. I'm hoping this is less than the 3 weeks but the wait is just making me want it even more.

Let google concentrate on sorting out the mess and getting devices in the hands of those who managed to get an order in, then we can worry about moaning at the about how they mistreated us as customers. I feel we should be compensated at least a little for this but right now I just want the damn thing.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Someone should complain to the head executive and see what happens.
[Nexus 4 General] mackster248:
Yeah I agree. I think 3 weeks is the most we'd have to wait. Wouldn't be surprised if its much sooner.
[Nexus 4 General] remczar69:
Any changes since yesterday guys?

Probably not, as there's no activity in the thread.

I'm still Pending in Play Store and Wallet, and got no info from Google at all.

Still waiting then.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Same here.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Still pending in both. No communication from anyone.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Nothing here either. I'm thinking we'll hear something by next week.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
But that's so far away!
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I'm hoping shipping notices Friday devices in hand Monday. But it will more realistically be probably middle of next week at the earliest.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Everyone on the second round this past week got there shipping notices Monday night, so if anything I'm thinking maybe this upcoming Monday will be round 3:o
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Hopefully we shall see. Not too far off. I've waited 20 something years another few days won't kill me.
[Nexus 4 General] remczar69:
I don't understand why should we wait until Monday. it's only a holiday in US, and what about the rest of us?

Google's European office should be working as usual.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
A valid point
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
They just don't have any phones.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
I call B/S on that but Happy Thanksgiving :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
If they have it for the same price yes, but in this case it makes no sense.
[Nexus 4 General] jwlu2:
I'm one of the silent followers on XDA forum since before the launch date. Stayed up all night thinking the launch will be at 3amEST in the US, then kept checking every hour until around 8am EST, then every 5-15 min since then. Was able to add N4 16GB to my cart at 11:41am EST and click "Place Order" or "Approve and Proceed" or whatever the button is before they confirm the order was placed.... and the server froze. For some reason decided to call them to make sure my order was/ wasn't placed before trying again. Of course it wasn't. I was hitting F5 until 2:21pm EST, when finally I was able to buy it. BO email on the 15th. Play store now says 19th, Pending status. The only change I noticed since yesterday is that the CREDIT to by CC by Google Disney Mobile (lol) for the amount of the order dropped off this morning(it was initially placed in the evening of the 20th.)

The wait is frustrating, but on the other hand, I don't have my case yet (bought it on the 15th off of Ebay, it's still in route) or the full body protector, so probably even with the N4 on hand, would've been afraid to carry it around or even use if for that matter... so it's working out for me for the best, even though I wish I had the phone yesterday!!
[Nexus 4 General] DLFB:
This is true.

If you still haven't gotten anything from Google up to this point

then you belong

in the 3 week BO bandwagon. I just got off the phone with a rep which I sure has been pounded by impatient turds calling for the past week. I hear the fear in the guy's voice because he probably just assumed everyone will yell at him (poor guy).

He did imply there's 0 stock for those who are still on the "limbo". We can all conclude that the remaining stocks are only for those who asked for a replacement.
[Nexus 4 General] jwlu2:
A lot of Int'l companies are off on both local holidays and the holidays of the country of their domicile
[Nexus 4 General] cathou:
I got an email from customer support yesterday night asking me to rate their customer service...
[Nexus 4 General] demosthen3s:
Me too. Pretty ironic to say the least. Also now my nexus 4 no longer shows up on the first page of orders in Google play for me. Pretty pathetic Google considering you know it hasn't even shipped yet.
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
I still want to be able to write a review for the Play Store in Google Wallet.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Wall street being the main entity in currency and stock exchange, it has become normal practice for US holidays to be international business holidays. Your country will run as usual but international shipments/meetings/exchanges are usually considered holiday if US is concerned in any way shape or form
[Nexus 4 General] mikecousins:
5.67GB
[Nexus 4 General] silversleeper:
Just got off the phone with CSR... bless their little hearts for working on Thanksgiving.

One of the first questions asked of me was if I received a BO email. I said not that I recall.

Then transferred to another department. Questioned again regarding the BO email... DENY! DENY! DENY!

Then rep goes to Supervisor, checks in system and sees BO email was in fact sent. So all I left with was verbal BO notice after all was said and done.

I did however ask the second level rep what back order means. His hesitantly responded, "We oversold". Slight stutter in his response, but sounded legit to me.

I think there was a sliver of truth that came out of this call, and it was the statement the second rep made regarding the N4 being "oversold". There was no logic or method to the back orders being issued, its as if they just carved out a chunk of orders from the pot and put them in what we now know to be Limbo Level 3.

Happy Thanksgiving my ass.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Almost makes me feel "special" to be one of the few unlucky saps to end up on BO:banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
Limbolimbolimbo.

Ah, I wish I had my phone today.

Happy thanksgiving, guys.
[Nexus 4 General] JohnMiroki:
Let's remind each other it's just a phone after all. Don't forget to enjoy life while waiting for it come.

Happy Thanksgiving!
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
I stopped eating, sleeping, I will skip thanksgiving and most likely christmas too.
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Lmbo..... still though its a phone and nothing we can wait for
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
I think the CSR don't know anything and are just reading it from a piece of paper

Sent from Nexus 4 only if Google move there ass!
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Correct
[Nexus 4 General] Emama:
how many lucky limbo slave here again?
[Nexus 4 General] stefandunn:
I hate being in Limbo 3. I ordered mine at 11.47 and have had the BO email. Not sure where people are seeing these shipping dates, I don't see any shipping dates in Google Play or Wallet.
[Nexus 4 General] galuquetta:
Limbo 3 here. Waiting for something!!
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Sounding off.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
LL3 here
[Nexus 4 General] Dster:
L3

Also L3 still.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Limbo 3 everyday
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
I to am betrayed :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] iTeeXDA:
Here!!
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I am betrayed/forgoten as well.