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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmudrick:
Screen color profile. No idea how much difference screen profiles make in SOT. With the S4 profile I set indoor brightness with Lux at 20-40% which would higher than stock.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yoyoz808:
I've been testing r181 and i tried both governors. They both are good and i like the how ondemand works after u mentioned what you read up on it but it feels better to me with interactive. Maybe it's a placebo effect or something. Hopefully u can implement the ondemamd into interactive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] karthi89:
With ondemand governor??

Alll stock settings except uv -100 mv right??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lap823:
If you feel like battery is bad just let it go for a couple charges. Mine was bad the first flash then got better after a couple charge and discharges. I prefer interactive though.

Nexus 4 (PA 3.99 + Franco r181)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
=jmudrick;45213613]Screen color profile. No idea how much difference screen profiles make in SOT. With the S4 profile I set indoor brightness with Lux at 20-40% which would higher than stock.

Screen color makes 0 difference, brightness is what effects battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
True, but the color profiles in the franco updater app, include brightness settings. So, differnt color profiles (we are not talking just about the 3 R/G/B numbers that even the stock kernel supports, but the rich profiles of the custom kernels) do affect battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Guess i don't no what your talking about? My set brightness dosent change on any color setting i set to 70 it stays at 70 no matter what, .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sam razzy:
Can someone share me the link for 181# test kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45147202&postcount=45288

Searching Francos posts r usually easiest way to find
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Here: http://db.tt/py2Yab4l

Sent from my \m/ Nexus 4

PA + Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
The number won't change on the regular phone brightness control, but the brightness settings on the franco updater color profile makes a difference.

So you can be at the lowest brightness from the regular phone brightness control, and depending on your color profile you can have a different actual brightness. For example, the obsanity profile was too dark for me, so I changed the brightness from 0 to 7, and it's now brighter at all of the phone's brightness levels (lowest, mid, auto, high).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
O i c, ok gotcha. From what another member had explained to me i didn't think any setting within color/gamma would effect battery , so now im confused :P but thank u
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shamu11:
Hey Franco,

Just out of curiosity, have any of your sources said anything about Klp? Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Nope :) there will be a major release on the fall thats all I know.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sam razzy:
Nevertheless, How to find the test kernel which is already been posted somewhere in the thread while ago ? ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shamu11:
I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say I'm so damn excited for this release!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ummmm that's it, that's francos post for 181. U want something older then use search or dig threw Franco's posts (click on his name)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arlenwoot:
edit wrong thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
I just posted a link one page back... Please do some reading brother ;)

Sent from my \m/ Nexus 4

PA + Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
Here is a general algorithm that should work at any time, you need to follow a few steps:

1. Read the last 2-3 pages of the thread, and note the latest version talked about, right now it's 181

2. Go to the "search this thread" and type r181

3. When you see the results, if there are multiple pages, go to the greatest numbered page (which is the oldest page)

4. The oldest post by franciscofranco at the very bottom of the results will typically have the announcement and link
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
From my understanding of it a higher brightness in the gamma settings e.g stock colors which are bloody bright, doesn't affect battery life in any way, the only way to alter battery life would be to change the brightness of the screen itself
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] beerope:
Alright, this is gonna sound stupid, please dont freak out. Does this kernel have full TRIM support? Just tell me yes / no thanks I just need some reassureance:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] giovaorama:
Can someone repost the link that franco posted where he takes the idea for the last improvement for ondemand governor?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Dear Franco

Are per app modes just working with interactive? Or could them be used with ondemand?

Nexus 4 / Cataclysm / Franco / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
This?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45071389&postcount=45044
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] giovaorama:
Nope. But from there i went some pages back and i find it

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/3

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sam razzy:
Okay I got it, but I wanted to know how to search the post with test release ? ;) thank you

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Okay thank you... I think this is very useful.. Next time I'll do this. Sure

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Okay thank you... I think this is very useful.. Next time I'll do this. Sure
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] saintsinner25:
r181 is feeling smoother on cm10.2's 31st aug nightly.especially in locking and unlocking the phone (r178 gave me a 2-3 second lag in unlocking the screen after locking it)

Sent from my Nexus Lightsaber
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mohitgalaxy3:
Was away from this thread, i saw a post stating that headset gain is now working opposite.

Can anyone confirm this, also please suggest me the recommended value for headset gain earlier i kept it at -6.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bobtehblob:
I used - 5 beforehand and now use +5 so maybe try +6? I'm not even sure if it's intended to work in reverse now or just an error?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
The best setting for me has been using the gain at - 3... And the output at +11.

Thah minimizes distortion.

Sent from my \m/ Nexus 4

PA + Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sam razzy:
Omg !! Franco (always respect) did you do some magic to this new kernel labeling 181 test ? I'm utterly shock seeing the battery and performance with data on for more than 3 hours. I saw that you have made some changes regarding CAF. I'm really gratifief with new changes and the result which I got. Your app is mind blowing with the per app mode settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
Ok im not following the thread for a long time....but after flashing 178 alot of apps just gives me FC after reboot....latest CM....the app auto-flash jwr maybe??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gee2012:
I think it does, you need the JSS version for CM.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arlenwoot:
It does, use the JSS version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
I manually flash jss and its all back to normal!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gee2012:
Yup, JSS kernels will be supported in the next FKU app update probably.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HtcRo:
Guys, where can I find the r181?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whitedragonz83:
Just got a discounted Nexus 4 and I love it as an upgrade to my Galaxy Nexus.

Tried stock kernel for a few days, but knowing Franco from the GNex... I knew he could do better than stock.

Not even rooted, just fastbooted the image of r181. Love it. Can't tell exactly the battery improvement over stock, but it sure keeps the device cooler with what feels like near zero smoothness loss from stock.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gee2012:
Type r181 in search this thread in the right colomn and go to the oldest post and you`ll see it. Post 45288, use search next time bro.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
+1 on this.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
I gotta say, after using r177 for a while now, with 66Y, I'm getting the best battery life/performance ever since I purchased the device. It is really worth it upgrading to 66V+newest franco or should I just stay and wait for some more serious improvements?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] xFuGiToiDx:
Test kernel 181 is the best one yet. Super smooth and good in battery life. Before this one came out I kept going back to 174 because it was smoother than the rest but now 181 definitely beats it. The new ondemand governor tweaks is awesome!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zorginho:
can u fix the reverse logic on the headset gain?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
R181 is very battery friendly, best so far.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Since 4.3 the Android framework has fstrim built within and it runs once every 24h.

Yesh!

Ok.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
Don't know if anyone has really talked game performance with r181. I remember there was a guy that use to post about game performance on each kernel, that was helpful.

But with r181 Beach Buggy barely stutters or lags whereas with r178 it would happen more frequently, even without hitting the threshold. Good job.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
I've been using the 181 test since it was released, and I'm very impressed. Battery had been holding up for me, and performance is beast. I just have to remind myself to reboot my device every morning. (apparently it is necessary when you charge your device wirelessly.) Anyone else had issues with needing to reboot to stop the effects that wireless charging is apparently having? (sorry, this issue is not kernel related, I just wondered if anyone in here has experienced it)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kerrglen:
What are the effects?

Since I have upgrade to 4.3 my wireless charging has been a bit hit and miss, works sometimes, fails a lot.

What effect have you been seeing?

-Kerr
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alkhafaf:
Pretty good battery, was still having about 30%
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
After charging wirelessly I get write a bit more battery drain. It seems to come from the device not wanting to enter deep sleep. It seems to be fixed after a reboot. So now I just have to remind myself to reboot every morning when I take it off of the charger.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
First of all, 66Y is the latest. And yes, you should try r181.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] defffizz:
Yes, download jss version from the server (you will find the link in OP)

N4, Cataclysm+Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
It was an occasional bug on 4.2.2. I asked about it, and Franco couldn't find the problem. Then again, neither can Google.

Apparently it's a bigger, more consistent problem on 4.3. If kernel wakelocks were enabled, you'd see it.

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=52034
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SevansD:
After two battery cycles on 181 I can report almost an hour more SOT than 180. And the smoothness? Best yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I could not fix it as the code seemed good to me (on 4.2.2). Maybe its a firmware problem? I don't know for sure, I don't have a wireless charger to test.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bankgg:
Any recommended per-app settings for the best gaming experience (I am playing Asphalt 8). I am on r181 version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Seems obvious... 1512MHz max/min, 0% Hotplug threshold, 75C thermal throttle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chuchuj:
I am running rooted Stock 4.3 on N4 - Trying to install r178 nighly through TWRP and I keep getting "E:Zip signature verification failed: 1" - What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yukkio:
75C ?? :eek: So hot or not?

BR.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
Turn off signature verification before flashing :) :highfive:

if this does not help, redownload the zip and check md5 sum
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chuchuj:
Does that increase my chances of ending up with a paperweight?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
nope. if it fails. boot to recovery and dirty flash your rom or stock 4.3 kernel :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bobtehblob:
I've never bothered to buy a wireless charger for this exact reason. It's a bit of a joke that such things are occurring In the first place. Google really should be on too of these kinds of bugs :(

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] oska3:
Interactive is better for battery than ondemand-r181
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gee2012:
No, it means it cannot be installed. It will not brick your device bro.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chuchuj:
Thanks to both of you, its booted up a treat!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nileshgr:
Like I said previously about keeping 4 cores active all the time with performance governor.

I got better battery backup today (2h screen instead of 1h usually) with the extremely ****ty 3G signal I get.

I'll observe more and post updates soon :)

No overheating happened though, the usual temperature with interactive and hotplug used to be around 46-50 for me and it's the same now, but sometimes goes beyond 55 (obvious depends on apps running).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bouaroudj:
On Demand no so good with low CPU demanding apps

Hello,

I'm testing 181 with On demand. I find the governor very bad with low CPU demanding apps.

I use a lot Diceplayer to watch videos on my N4

Videos are always Hardware Accelerated

On Demand : CPU between 800 mhz and 1.5 ghz

Interactive : CPU between 384 mhz and 810 mhz
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jutley:
Can i flash this kernel on 4.3 JWR66Y android paranoid 3.99 latest
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
What is the problem exactly?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dark Emotion:
Yes
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jutley:
Which one do i chose abit confused?I installed the latest android 4.3 stock JWR66Y then installed android paranoid latest 3.99 now which vershion of franco kernel do i need,
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
The JWR version, not the JSS.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dark Emotion:
Go to this link: http://minooch.com/franciscofranco/Nexus4/4.3/zips/

Download franco.Kernel-nightly-r178.zip (this is JWR version) and flash it via recovery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dmourao:
I can second that. With interactive I have idle drain about 0.1/h to 0.3/h, using ondemand 0.3/h to 0.8/h.

Going to compare overall battery life today. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Waldos:
I didnt know how the Hotplug threshold works, i read and now ... i understand :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bouaroudj:
No problems. Just pointing the fact that interactive seems more CPU effective.

Other than that, I'am a happy user :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
Gamma control don't work or i just Can't spot the difference?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
Turn off the screen, then turn it back on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] momomok:
I have a wireless charge pad (not the LG one)

is there anything to help with the tracing of this particular issue?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I have no issues and have had no issues wirless charging, car charging, ac charging, or usb charging on 4.3 jwr or jss, ( i have 2 N4's) u may wanna try a better rom, if your google stock u may wan a wipe.

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Have u read this? http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-for-keeping-your-nexus-4-awake-indefinitely/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
During idle if there are no wakelocks it doesn't matter what governor you are using. For what is worth you could be idling using performance governor that it would make no difference.

No idea, sorry.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AxelCM1:
A question? It will merge the two versions of the Franco Kernel ? as they did with the Kernel Angela . I want to use MultiROM with PA and CM but is JWR and the other JSS . I love this Kernel and I will not change it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I know nothing of that Angela Kernel. I'll have two separate versions until Google syncs everything up, I don't want more problems and merging JWR and JSS Kernel trees is asking for trouble.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AxelCM1:
Thanks for the reply . Hopefully Google will fix . After all there is no other Kernel better than this .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Somehow this problem disappeared for me after using 4.2.2 for a longer time, now it seems its back again in 4.3.

Had this problem directly after I bought the N4 + wireless charger, Franco could find anything back then, as Google can't either it may be some weird race condition between the Framework and the Kernel as it doesn't happen always, but kinda random.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] epidemic11:
Hi Francisco, I'm new here and after reading a lot of reviews I decided that Franco Kernel is the only way to go! Anyways, I see that people here are talking about 181 but the latest in Franko Kernel Updater in only 178. Why is thath? Thanks! :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
r181 is just a test .img that I dropped here for some off the record testing ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] raz123:
+1.

The echo-cancelling issue needs to be looked at. More info here:

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42978

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2228361
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thesebastian:
And the status is still NEW....(not assigned).

:(

Go spam Google!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] X DoZ3R:
Hi, im testing 180 and now r181 with ondemand, battery is very good , i got 6hourly SOT on wifi and its smooth, i switch to interactive and i got much better screen responsiveness , for example in tapatalk app
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
Just because you don't think you have issues doesn't make it a ROM issue. In fact, you have no idea if you are getting the wakelock, since your kernel doesn't report them.

I'm still using 4.2.2, and probably haven't seen it more than a dozen times. I can't tell for sure, because I can't see the kernel wakelocks for the last few months.

And, yes, I did see the article, which is why I said it appeared to be a bigger issue with 4.3.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ur right i dont And i dont give a **** either! I have better things to do, i put my phone on W charger and it charges . DONE I tried to give out a freaking article to look at and u give me attitude . Have a great day sir
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
Silly question, we wouldn't be further testing 23 plus the additional patches currently as 26-test if we'd achieved the desired mix of performance and stability FF is aiming at. When we get there, I'm sure that the thread will be re-titled and we'll know. So watch this space.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Djatnet:
Hello,

I'm using stock ROM and Franco's r23 Kernel, and I must say that it's amazing how smooth the phone is.

I think that I have more battery time than before, but, because I'm a newbie, I don't know if these values are good or not:

Ecrã means Screen

Francisco, continua assim. Um muito obrigado e um bom 2013.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ibsonic:
Francisco I've mailed you days ago.. Did you received an e-mail?

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I don't know, I get swarmed with emails everyday :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] reaper000:
Yeah, it may look that way on some screens, but my Nex4 was noticeably green-yellow, even when compared to my GNex. Glad that individual calibrations are possible with Franco app!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mils69:
To follow up on yesterday's post.

r25-test running through the night resulted in a 2.9% per hour drop.

Similar to others observed less wake lock than r23 but more than r24- test.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ibsonic:
I'll mail the same one again.. Under the name I. Önder

Edit:

sended.

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
My impressions of r26-test are all positive.

I'm sure you recall the issues I had with some of the interactive settings causing my device to reboot. I haven't tried those settings since because I wasn't quite sure whether Todd had responded to this issue.

However, with r26 lag/stutter isn't an issue anymore. I lowered the go_hispeed a touch, set hispeed_freq to 1242MHz and raised the min_sample a little and my N4 is flying. It's a stunning experience to behold.

(I find that some apps struggle to stay smooth and lag-free with hispeed_freq set to 918MHz - Google Music is one culprit. Upping this frequency ironed out those creases for me.)

Many thanks Franco. Beautiful work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Todd didn't answer directly to that bug you reported, but you can try it and see if its fixed. If its not I'll poke him again about that :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mobilehavoc:
I don't get the comments about stutter or lag. I'm not rooted so I always run Franco kernels with whatever stock settings they come with and it has been amazing for performance. Maybe I just have a good chip? I trust Franco to set the values. Keeps things simple. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] obsanity:
Running r23 on CM10.1. I'm getting 4+hours of screen on time. Love the colors! Just wish there was stronger vibrate.

If 100 is max, is it possible to add length of vibration control to Franco's app? The keyboard option gives a nice poke at 30ms setting.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
Many thanks dude.

I can't seem to reproduce the issue as of yet. Which is a great sign because it's usually something that occurs within the first couple of minutes if I play around with my phone a bit. :good:

I'll keep you informed but I have a good feeling about it. All might be well. :)

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I think user experience just varies. Everybody's sweet-spot varies. I'm really anal about even the slightest dip in performance (hence my N4 purchase).

I know a lot of people have stated that default settings have great effects. I haven't had that same experience with default, but with additional tweaks, it's all good. :good:

EDIT: I think I shot myself in the foot a little, as I changed the interactive values a while back to steer more towards performance and I instantly felt the difference in responsiveness and snappiness. I didn't know what the difference was before that and was more than happy with my previous experiences on default, but now I find it difficult to revert.