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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Martin_Ro:
Gratz :) Is it your ordered one or did you get one from google again ? (Ok, that sounds silly in first place as the ordered would come also from google, but I hope you know what I mean :cyclops:)

Anyway enjoy your N4 :fingers-crossed:

On a Sidenode:

Have tested V8 on Crossfire in this combination, phone also got warm.

But I couldn't tell for sure if it was caused by the Rom or the Kernel as I (fool as I am) have installed both at same time.

I'm currently on PA2.99 (Build 6) will update today to Build 7. After observing this for a while regarding heating up, I will install your kernel again and then have a look about the mentioned warming.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The one I ordered! I suspect it might be rom issue. I just threw a bunch of benchmarks into my device and it barely gets warm and scoring big numbers on antutu so I know its not throttling.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whittikins:
Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the thread, but was it determined that the nexus 4 throttles based on battery temperature instead of cpu temperature? Or both?

I understand you removed it but I was just curious. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I tried to do it from kernel source, but I believe I was wrong. I'm going through device files and I found a thermald.conf file in /system/etc. Basically yes it throttles based on the battery temperature (dunno why, but maybe its because its an unremovable battery). This commit shows pretty much how its set up: https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/e9a39493727078f4c08f4cc515549a7aa519b159

Has anyone tried to edit this file and increase all the battery thresholds by 5ºC?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Martin_Ro:
Nice :)

Like I said: I will test it again with current PA. But anyway: if the stock kernel dont heat the phone but with your kernel it heats, I wouldnt say it's the Rom that easiely ;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Treatcon:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35163445&postcount=926

jacklebott has been pretty informative about raising the battery thermal throttle limit in the faux thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yep seen that ;)

Ok build 9 is out. Its not much, but its enough for you guys to play until a proper release (non testing release) is out. Just added the same flags that Android mako tree is currently using for some extra tiny bits of performance; A little change to ondemand as well and fixed the strange touch bug introduced 2 test versions ago..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Monkeybrew:
Awesome. Care to share the benchmark numbers?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] STIawdFTW:
I'm sure you're aware of this but I've also read it's the battery that causes the throttling. The Optimus G's max temp before throttling is 6 degrees higher than the Nexus 4 and maybe we can assume that's why it's benchmark scores are higher. I know benchmark scores don't tell everything but you would think stock android would have higher scores with the same hardware. I'm assuming the battery temp is set lower on the Nexus for battery longevity but who knows. I think 6 degrees higher would be safe if the Optimus G is running with the higher temp.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] joshndroid:
Franco now that u have the device can we get your app download support ;) I like being lazy =)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dragooon123:
Just waiting for you to add app support and release a non-test version before I start using this :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jhericurls:
Not really an accurate measurement, you clearly have better signal after the kernel change.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dwang:
There are 2 ehci hsic wake lock patches that motley merged into his kernel back in Dec that reduces the wake locks significantly on WiFi and doesn't cause any 3g mobile data drops. At least for me.

I would recommend Franco merge those in and leave the other ones out until the folks at code aurora can figure out which commits are causing the data drops.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
What about every1 else ? I've never tried that kernel and don't read his thread , do other's have issues ? But im Pretty sure those are part of the patches were talking about ...

Personally ID rather have strong data signal than worry about small amount of battery loss , ( I own few chargers )
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] veyka:
I was hit pretty hard and fast by the drops last time these patches where tried, this time seemed a bit better, but not much, my impression is that these patches make the hsic to "sleepy" so to speak, causing the modem (and maybe the gps/slimport) to drop off, causing the issues.

Considering that this phone and the LG optimum G are the only two devices with this combo, im not supprised they are still ironing out the bugs.

Talking of the G, does it have the same issues? Might be worth taking a look at its hsic driver if not, though the fact that it's still on ICS might not help :/ (also of cause baseband issues) (there was a 4.1 leak, but leak means no source heh)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ya on 33 , playstore has not gave me that , data connection error yet , I would have been able to duplicate it by now .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
I didn't move. The phone has been sitting in exactly the same place between both kernels. Also I'm on wifi anyways so the difference shouldn't really even matter much. I've seen exactly the same behavior on the other two days that I've tested both r30 vs r31.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mobilehavoc:
After running franco I'm running motley b12 and it is for me smoother with no 3G drops and no hsic wake lock. Give it a shot. Easy enough to flash back to Franco if you want.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Just flashed r33 and still data issues:what:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Notorious544d:
That really helps development in this thread. That kind of information will really help Franco iron out these bugs. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Reflash your ROM
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
How do i do that???

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm good motley is were I went for the builds r2x when I was having battery issues and lots of heat on my phone on those builds. I would check back and flash Franco every couple of builds and on r31 my battery life shot back up and all heat was gone. Im very happy now with Franco and I'm getting better battery and performance from Franco r31-r33 than i was on motkey so this is were I shall stay.

Francos +1 on r33 no data drops at all and its running very smooth no lags and my phone is cool as a Xmas penguin. Thank you for all your efforts.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jdmcivic:
R29 has been the sweet spot for me. no data drops.

flat lines while idling on either 3g or wifi.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] afbengochea:
Still on 31 and basically had espn game cast running the while time while I study for my board exam but damn can this thing idle. Thanks Franco for all you can do.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ipnekgs:
No data drops and been on 32 since 9:am today (8pm now)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
Same for me too but on r30. I found that they didn't have much of a difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
At the very lowest. When I go out, I set it to about 5 percent or so. I never set it more than 20 percent.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
haha maybe i know this answer - of course the thermal throttling freq increased, gpu overhead reduced and cores activation thresholds decreased - so not much changes between r31 to r33 in other aspects but gaming has become perfect ;)

also r31 may still include a few HSIC patches introduced before and on r33 all of them have gone
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kangi26:
Ok, everyone. Lets stop the bickering and the off topic runs in this thread. We are having to continually come in and clean up. And as for the language. Profane words posted (abbreviated/hyphened/or implied) will not receive any more warnings. It has really gotten out of hand today
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
After 2hrs on r33 my network still comes,goes and completely disappears.

Restored back to stock, signal comes back to where it always is when I'm at my computer.

Was r33 a placebo kernel franco? ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iFalcon:
I just had the dxC

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I just had the exact same experience where I lo
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I think your problem then lies elsewhere because not one drop for me. I don't believe for one second that Franco would just release a build he has been around a long time and has too much integrity for that.

BTW that's not what the data icon looks like on a data drop we are talking about it still shows bars just no data so what u are experiencing isn't a data drop based on the Qualcomm patch

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] aimetti:
Data drops are nothing new regardless of kernel.

At least for myself and 300 others

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40065
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ballastatuz:
At first r33 was extremely choppy. Now it is a little less. I guess I gotta let it settle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I really reverted all the HSIC patches on r33, its not placebo. Theres nothing else I can do now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ibsonic:
If you guys won't believe just look in github. Its not placebo, he changed it back to stock. Well the hsic patches.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dirtyhamster73:
Check your sim card.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] MaxCarnage:
I've never had any of the data drops (that I've noticed) on any of franco's kernels. I'm not saying they don't happen, just for frame of reference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Hmm strange I dunno then man there's got to be something else causing this if I was u I would just try another kernel or stay on the stock one.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
I went through that at the beginning of these troubles, I've had another new one, not a cut one (the last one they put in a machine that cut it to size) but a proper micro one.

When I revert to stock this doesn't happen!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dirtyhamster73:
I've had those same empty bars and pop up message about the emergency calls, usually when I don't have my sim in or something is up with the sim.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mobilehavoc:
The people having data issue have you at least tried another kernel so you know for sure its Franco kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Enhanced:
It's gonna be killer when we find out that all the data drops had nothing to do with the kernel at all. Talk about all that wasted time and hardwork. =\
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jundii:
Agreed. Which makes me wonder how many reports of data drops were actually legit and if all these complaints about data drops on recent releases have been the same consistent issue - bars showing but no data works. Hard to make adjustments based on false reports regarding flat out signal loss.

I had the "correct" data drops back when the patches were first released and included in the nightlies (r23 or 24 I think). Once they initially got reverted or tweaked I haven't had any of those issues since.

Are we including full signal loss as part of the "data drop" issue Franco? This could be a bug or cell tower related and something users may have not noticed until they already had data issues in their sights due to those patches.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I only get them very seldom and only when its a build where the hisc Qualcomm fix is in it. It never happens for me on any other kernel so for me I'm 95.9% sure its the wakelock fix. But either way I'm happiest with Franco's kernel over any other even with the builds with the wakelock fix cause its so seldom I get one and his builds make my baby purr.

BTW not one data drop yet on r33 I didn't get any on r31 and I only had one on r32. Just for reference.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ibsonic:
Okay guys it's time to help each other. Let's start an excel sheet with data on it with people who got those drops. It isn't helpful to spam this thread with drops. What info do we need..

-version R

-rom

-region(where you from)

-provider

-time

What else could be helpful?

Who can set up an excel sheet through google docs?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] magictwins:
If I never ever had a data connection problem at all, which r## would you suggest me to flash
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ibsonic:
He wouldve said: the one that suites you. I would've said. R32

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I would say give r32 a shot.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kangi26:
AGAIN...Stay on topic! I just deleted 35 off topic posts. I dont care what happened earlier today, yesterday or last week. No more flaming from anyone. If you have something to say that is NOT on topic, PM the person, stop posting it here. It's that simple

Thank you
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jundii:
And I spoke too soon. On r32. AT&T. United States in the Philly, PA area. 9:00 PM right now. CM 10.1. Having the data issue now. If I switch from WiFi to data I get no internet connection. Decided to check it randomly lol. I will try out r33 tomorrow.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jjcandroid2012:
I can set it up
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Crazy right I thought everyone was crazy till it happened to me lol. I'm on AT&T also in the northwest Indiana/Chicago area. Also on CM10.1 but jellybro Skanky builds

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
That's not a data drop.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
It could have been, jundii could u only get data back on through rebooting?

I've heard quit a few people mention this same thing on build r32 this morning and afternoon. It could still be related with the wacklock fix I haven't heard many people having this happen on r33.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jjcandroid2012:
Here is the google excel spreadsheet. Hope it helps.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuTiLofUj7OEdElNcVpBQ085MVF5RFlzS2V2anZpd1E
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
OK, just putting it out there, I've been on stock for just over an hour and my signal hasn't dropped once.

I'm gonna stay on stock until there's a fix (that works) and watch from the sidelines and see how it goes.

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Maybe a good idea to move that to the front page, it does get a little hectic in here, we won't be able to find it in a couple of days. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Maybe add a line for modified APN ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jundii:
Sure it is. That is and has been the ongoing issue with these patches that were applied. Signal shows full bars but no internet connection. This is where I don't think the definition of the bug was clearly defined for reporting. What is your definition of the data drop related to the patches ?

Actually I tried to fix it without rebooting this time and got it to work. I tried switching to 2g and clearing my APN settings just to do a reset and that seemed to work. Not sure which fixed it.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jjcandroid2012:
I added it.. its open so feel free to add other information that is possibly needed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
All you said was that you switched from wifi to data and got no connection. That by itself is not a data drop. The issue of the data drops is when the indicator shows that you have data but it isn't really getting any actual data and a reboot is required to fix the issue. If toggling airplane mode or mobile data fixes it, I don't think it counts.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jundii:
I switched from WiFi to data. Waited for the H to show. It displayed then showed an H+ and RX/tx arrows and then cut out. Repeatedly did this every 15 s or so. Eventually stopped until I would try to do a connection to something. Nothing on the browser would load, etc. Thus a data drop. I don't think a reboot is needed to fix the issue. I had the same issue I had before and everyone described and I rebooted before because I defaulted to that. Never tried fixing it without reboot until this evening and what I did fixed it. I did not toggle airplane mode or the data connection to fix it. Tried those in the past and they did not work.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yea toggling airplane mode never worked for me nor toggling mobile data.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
Has anyone tried making a call when they have a full signal but no data connection? I just wondered if they were linked.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
You mean "when" you get another one. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] magictwins:
I don't know how you guys define data drop...

but when you have full signal and no connection, it's likely to be a network/carrier issue, instead of a device one.

I won't believe that you guys never had such full signal and no data connection situations prior to these kernels. It always happens when you are in crowded places, like concert venue , metro...

The most persuasive way to claim that franco's kernel caused your "data drop" is: when it happens, you hold another phone (would be better if it's stock N4) along side with your franco kerneled N4 , the same time at the same place on the same carrier and that phone has data connection.

qualcomm's hsic fix might have caused the data activities to be less active than it previously was. But just don't exaggerate the problem.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm in my house next to a tower literally 1/2 a mile a way. Been her all day and like I've posted many times it only happens on the builds with the wakelock fix. I'm not exaggerating anything. My house isn't very crowded unless you think me, 2 cats, a Russian tortoise, my son, and fiance crowded lol

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] magictwins:
does it resume some time later automatically or needs turn off/on radio or reboot?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I don't use any ad blocker. All I did was flash r32 and got one data drop not any since I flashed r33 nor all day yesterday on r31

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I have to reboot.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
I've had AdAway since I got the phone, these problems only started after r23, it was fine from r20 - r23.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jundii:
Then it is a happy coincidence. I also don't live in a crowded home. Always 3-4 bar signal. When resetting or switching an APN I think it does something similar with a data connection just like a reboot would. Different than airplane mode or toggling data. Next time you have the issue try resetting or switching the APN. I'm curious if what I did is reproducible.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
What you described is completely different from your original "If I switch from WiFi to data I get no internet connection."

Odd how that toggling 2g or changing APN would fix it and not airplane mode or toggling mobile data. They shouldn't be that different.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ulver:
I definitely notice a difference with the data between r32 and r33. When I had r32 running I sent my wife a bunch of texts when I was at work. I noticed that a few hours have past with no reply. I looked at my sent messages and none of them were sent. Plus my phone app was on top of the battery use list. It took a reboot to fix it.

It could be placebo affect, but the data on r33 seems much more snappier if that makes any sense.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DowntownJeffBrown:
I did I went from LTE PTA APN to Cingular.WAP and nothing still no data it trickled for about 15 seconds then went totally away again.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
This: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40065 describes pretty much what has happened since N4's launch. Happens with stock kernel, stock rom, custom kernel, custom rom. The HSIC driver in this kernel is now 100% stock, theres not much more I can do.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] javacody:
I don't think folks have been clear enough about data drops.

There is currently at least one bug filed with Google related to signal loss. This is of course stock 4.2.1.

When I first got my N4, pre Franco, I would lose signal constantly. Dropped calls like mad.

Then it magically went away.

I've had zero issues with any of Franco's kernels.

I'm really thinking this may be carrier specific.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
That's to do with wi-fi, I've never had any problem with the wi-fi !
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jundii:
That bug pertains to delayed notifications/dropped connections when on WiFi and deep sleep/ screen off. Has nothing to do with WiFi drops during screen on activity or data drops. Those issues or complaints got lumped into that ticket because those users are clueless, but the main drive behind it is delayed notifications which all 4.2.1 users are reporting regardless of device.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
OH I thought it was the same thing, I didn't read anything besides the first post.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
Are you trying to fix something that's not broken? ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] magictwins:
from my experiences, HSIC doesn't hold wakelock under wifi connection
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokkenas:
Installed r33 about an hour ago. I let my phone sit until I'm typing this post, unlock the screen, bam, data and wifi bars turn grey. There's still data drop :( Thanks for the effort though!

Newbie question: I kept hearing Qualcomm's fix/patch/whatever related to HSIC caused this. What exactly it does? I'm really curious because apparently this delayed notification problem is not only Nexus 4 exclusive. My friend's SGS 3 (full stock), iPhone 4S, and 5 has this delayed notification problem.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Clean cache and Dalvik... That might resolve it!

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nokkenas:
Trying now. Do I also need to reinstall the kernel after I clean cache and dalvik?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
No need

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