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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
It's all about 4.3 now brotha... Update and enjoy life! ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
r165 is the last one for 4.2.2. as of right now Franco releases only for the JWR build and should support JSS later on.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
From Franco himself:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hughfollett:
May I ask what browser do you use instead?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nocturnal86:
when a new os is introduced franco moves on to that one. I mean why work on 4.2.2 whats the point when something newer and better is out.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Just chiming in but chrome seems to have some issues not related to kernel, give it some time it'll stop that behavior. Tapatalk is another blunder btw
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ciprianruse88:
My God ! i've just read the last 7-8 pages and all this JSS - JWR talk repeating over and over again makes me want an iphone...WTF guys...reading OP or using the search button won't lead you to blindness or be bitten by a crocodile

Sent from Inferno
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
Haha! Yeah. Oh wait .. there is more. Now Beach buggy blitz went non responsive for 2 seconds now. I'm gonna observe this further. Probably related to a derped rom.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Wassupdog:
Can I insall this with PandroidAndroid 3.92 JB 4.3?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Drmol:
I'm sorry, this was funny at first but now it's just sad. :(

Reading a few pages back will help you answer your question.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] theclaytons:
+1. Performance awesome.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
No, you can't. PA is based on JSS15J while this kernel only works on JWR66V.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
Thats right....there is a unofficial JSS15J Franco(but not his work) some where,bit you will lose ROOT:eek:

PD:waiting for FF make a kernel for JSS15J:D

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
It's gonna be like ^^^ this for a long time. Everyone should save a response and Ctrl+v to save time
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] madmike413:
173 had a crazy wake lock but its gone in 174! Smooth sailing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ciprianruse88:
Good ideea :) but a better ideea is to ignore all further posts like that one so we wont't be forced to read 1 milion posts regarding jss and jwr. Thank you JBQ for making such a confusing mess around users !

"Using the search button won't get u killed" <-- taptalk signature
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Wassupdog:
Ok, Thank you all.

I'll wait.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] syl3ns:
Hello all. I have stock 4.3 and r174 working well. I have a problem with the OP though. On the xda app the OP is extremely truncated but on a browser it is fine.

Is it possible that others are not reading the OP due to this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mindfever91:
The xda app is an outdated piece of crap either way, just use the browser or something like Tapatalk.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tricepz:
Well, i hadn't much time with r173 and flashed 174 so far been amazing battery life, im happy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jak3z:
Franco I had tonight a very strange problem, I left my phone charging and reached 100% so I decided to go to bed as it was pretty late but forgot to unplug it from my docking station, when I woke up the phone was powered off and charging again. Looks like in 6 hours battery got to 0%.

I attach you a kmsg, I also got a complete bugreport if you want that.

This was with r173. Not sure if it has any relation to the kernel as you are the guru. :angel:

(Flashing r174 btw)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JamesInsights:
Really isn't a big deal at all. Change your app/browser or deal with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] webwude:
Just a quick question - will there be a kernel release for 4.3. AOKP?

I already purchased francos app, but as I am using 4.3 nonstock right now I cannot really use it...

Best regards,

ww
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Polv89:
Arghhhh... Excuse for my question, I haven't read this... Thanks franco for your work

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Soon.. ;)

Sent from my \m/ Nexus 4

ROM: PA 3.92

Kernel: Franco r174 JSS Unofficial
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sryche:
check supersu permission for lmt :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thesebastian:
Edit!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eluspo:
174 is flying, scrolling like a boss in xda :)

Good job [MENTION=470754]Franco[/MENTION]:beer:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
use the unofficial r174. do people not browse the android development forums anymore?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2387446

do note it is unofficial, so dont come complaining about your problems with flashing that kernel in this thread because this thread is for the official kernel. but r174 unofficial works as advertised.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rysup:
Had the same thing... I think vector unit need to update it tbh.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blahquader:
Hi,

i use JWR66V with 174 nightly and made some color changes with trickster mod. After a reboot, all changes are gone.

Tried "set on boot" with and without delay. No changes. Trickster Mod tells me "dirty reboot, set on boot deactivted.."

Any ideas?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rysup:
Contact trickster mod team???
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
I think the bigger question is when there will be a build him the AOKP team.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gallardo5:
Are you using some app to reboot, or rebooting by power menu? I heard that rebooting with any app causes trickster settings to not stick. Try to hold power button and restarr from there
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] webwude:
Ok, thank you for your hint - I didn't see that thread...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Screen on/off. Other than that contact trickster team.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blahquader:
Yeah, using Holo reboot.

Reboot per power button and it works, thanks! :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
Just wondering.. since input boost is at 1.5ghz, does it been that the proc will run at 1.5 all the time, when your finger is touching the screen? Swiping/ scrolling as well?

Sent from a Nexus
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] snak3ater:
So far it's a 50-50 for 1.5Ghz & 384Mhz...Pro runs at 1.5Ghz all the time while screen is being touched.It comes back to 384Mhz when screen left untouched.Performance is good,it's the battery that has to be tested now..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] payne_307:
Default settings on Franco Kernel

Hi All,

Sorry for asking something many may not approve. I don't want to root my phone as GFE app which my company uses for corp mailbox access doesn't work. Even temp unrooting doesn't work unless I disable/freeze the app and reboot and get temp unroot. Again if I need root I need to disable and reboot back to root. To avoid all this can I just put franco kernel instead of the stock Google kernel for Android 4.3 (JWR66V) on my Nexus 4. What are the benefits for battery consumption over stock kernel without me using Franco Kernel Updater App and not tweaking any settings?

Are the settings which keep running by default better than stock? Would I have lesser kernel wakelocks? If there are no benefits I would continue using stock kernel else would love to switch to Franco but without rooting. Just loading the kernel image using fastboot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trident167:
I'm running stock with r174, input boost at 1.5 and things are so smooth. Battery life still awesome as usual. Perfect!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] payne_307:
Thanks but I guess you are using the Franco Updater App to make changes to input boost, frequency governors, etc. For that app to run root permissions are needed. I'm talking about just flashing boot img via fastboot to Franco instead of stock Google boot img kernel. Would the settings in Franco by default help my battery and performance or would I be better off running stock kernel. The reason I intend to make a switch is because of the enormous amount of kernel wakelocks I get using stock Google kernel, which obviously drains the battery faster.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] keviv77:
Last 2 days I was on r173 uv-50 then chrome was freezing then I reverted UV to stock then chrome stopped freezing. Not checked with r174 yet
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gallardo5:
Why not use ROM with init.d support? You can root, make init.d scripts to tweak settings and un-root then, I think init.d scripts should still work without root
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes. What made me wonder was that since stock battery usage was considerably improved, I mean really improved, theres no point in handicapping the device performance because battery wise it will be always better than stock, so Id rather enjoy my device with full smoothness and still achieve 2 days without charging and lots of screen on time. Im currently very happy and I think I can still improve some algorithms in the mid-long run :)

Compared to stock this Kernel will give you better battery, and I dare to say that performance wise with r174 it is one step further than stock. It will heat up much less than stock as well. IO performance is also boosted compared to stock, which is obviously a plus :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigi_2:
Belive it or not, all you wanna change is the color :o
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zlatan9.:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION]

Franco can you give me a link to the rom what you use...

I know you use stock but do you have a link.. If you give it im sure that I have to good one haha!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] payne_307:
Thanks a lot for the info. However for clarity I'm just confirming - I will not be rooting my phone. I will simply load the Franco Kernel in replacement of the stock kernel via fastboot flash boot command. Post that I can't tweak any settings of the kernel unless I root my phone and install Franco Updater App, which I don't intend to do bcoz of other restrictions. I'm hopeful that whatever default settings the kernel comes preloaded with are still good to improve battery life as compared to stock. If yes, in next ten minutes I shall be on Franco !! :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I use the Nexus Images from Google...

I always aim for the best possible defaults for what the majority will enjoy the most. Even after offering FKU app I believe users should not need to fiddle with changing settings to achieve the best user experience. My goal is always for users to flash and forget thats why there isnt a post with "recommended settings". I would be a noob Kernel hacker if I released a Kernel binary with some random settings to "force" users to buy my app to change them :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=fr-FR
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] payne_307:
You are a star :good::... Though I can't I have a lot of folks who are with N4 or GPV of S4 and HTC One... They are gonna love your kernel... As for me I'm half way reloading the bootimage and radios.. Next comes your kernel !!! Thanks a ton again for responding....

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Sorry missed mentioning root..."Though I can't [ROOT] I have a lot of folks who are with N4 or GPV of S4 and HTC One"...

---------- Post added at 07:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:35 PM ----------

Sorry missed mentioning root..."Though I can't [ROOT] I have a lot of folks who are with N4 or GPV of S4 and HTC One"...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trident167:
Yes I'm using the app. I haven't run the new Google kernel very long, cuz once franco had his ready for 4.3, I flashed it right away. People running stock have had good results with battery improvement compared to the previous stock kernel.

Franco stock settings are always a good balance between performance and battery. I use it because I love to have the customization at my disposal when I need it

I suggest try both but I think once you try Franco kernel you won't go back :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
Nice! But google's stock itself has a touch boost of 1GHz, correct? And with 1GHz itself, things were super smooth. I just want to understand if bumping it further up will make things even more smooth (has to be noticeable!), whether there is a limit for smoothness. Take dpi as an analogy. It doesn't matter as to how many pixels you cram into an inch of space. As long as it's above the threshold, it's gonna look awesome. Upping the number of pixels isn't going to help beyond a point.

Secondly, do you think this sort of hinders the purpose of per app control? take beach buggy for instance. If you set the cpu to scale to lets say, 1 GHZ, touching the screen constantly (for controlling the buggy, specific scenario) will boost it to 1.5 invariably!

Also, If you take reading an ebook for example, or browsing a website for that matter, you will definitely spend every other second to scroll or zoom. Isn't having the cores at max overkill for that purpose alone?

Putting it into logical perspective now, (correct me if i'm wrong)

when phone sleeps -> massive battery save;

when touching the phone -> expending whatever that was saved earlier during sleep.

So it ideally should sorta even out right?

I somehow believe that downing the touch freq maybe 1.2GHz (to please everyone :P) would be better off. But then again, lets see what everyone's opinion is.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Stock is 1,5GHz touch boost. The point here is that the max time the device will be touch boosted is 1 second even if you are scrolling in an ebook it will stay at max for 1 second and then down it goes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
OH!! Now I get it. So even if i draw weird designs on my screen for 10 mins, only the first second is at 1.5GHz! I was under the impression that it'd stay at 1.5 until you let go of your screen :| My bad
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Better snapiness anh smoothness when scrolling, very nice.

Don't know about battery, but don't notice a big change in this, wich is good :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
no sight of a rom build as yet, so not long.........Very tempted by PA , can't wait. (Resist) (Must resist)

Don't like not being able to provide feedback on latest Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hallucinogen775:
hi guys,

1st of all, THANX for the kernel. R173 is already very satisfying. however... i'm testing new kernels all the time. if i wanted to change kernel to another author, can i just flash ahead or do i need to flash sth. like a "reset-kernel" or the pure 4.3 JVR66 first?`i didn't find anything about it on page 1 of this thread, because this is where the information should be found (please add).

or does it depend on what i want to flash next and is independent of franco's kernel?

thanks and best regards,

hallu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
No. After you stop touching it only stays boosted for 1s.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SweetwaterBurns:
I love the higher touch boost frequency, but I've been watching the cpu in perfmon while scrolling and kind of think that 1s is a bit long to wait before it drops. Is there a tunable I could use to drop the time to 1/2 a second to test if the smoothness stays while saving a touch of Power. I'm not sure if it would make a huge difference battery wise, but considering how much I touch mys... I mean, my phone, it could be noticeable over the course of a day.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
0,5s is not enough to ensure that everything is smooth, most animations take 1 second to finish.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fjhuerta:
Hello Generalisimo,

I'm sad to report the Franco Kernel Updater (paid version) has some issues with Android 4.3.

It does work, but it won't keep settings after a while.

Yesterday I installed it and when rebooting it didn't keep your settings.

Then I stopped the app, cleared settings, uninstalled app, wiped cache, wiped Dalvik and reinstalled. It did work.

I UV'd by 150mV. The phone turned itself off after a while of not doing anything. Your app had the stock settings. I set my own (UV'd by 125 mV) and the app didn't save settings again.

I wiped the entire phone and started from scratch. The first thing I did was installing your app and UV'd by 125 mV. Reinstalled everything.

The phone turned itself off after a while, same as before. And your app didn't save settings anymore.

So, I'd assume that if the phone fails due to bad parameters, something in the app's data gets corrupted.

Can I do anything to help you trace the problem?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
You may be UV'ing more than your phone can handle. Are you ticking the appropriate 'set on boot' boxes? My UV settings get applied on boot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JaqaL06:
guys i have a question.. is it possible to flash franco kernel instead of stock one without a root? if it is how can ı do that? i don't wanna root my phone because it will erase all data.. please help me..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Leegalaxy:
The updater app has been saying that r165 is the latest nightly for a few days now. I've cleared app data. Anyone else have this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
adb reboot bootloader

fastboot flash boot boot.img

Yikes, I forgot the UpdaterService :) Thanks for the pointer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] limeaide:
Rooting the phone will NOT erase data. Unlocking the bootloader erases data.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
Do not uv. I am on 4.3 since a few days and no problem so far ( like on 4.2.2 the gpu don't stick on 325 after reboot is back to 400 not sure why, this the only thing that i can think off).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
It works fine for me. The problem is most due to some SU problem. Root has been hacky since 4.3 and all current Root solutions are not really reliable. We gotta wait, theres really nothing I can do.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tekken179:
Hey [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION], the latest version of PA seems to have issues with your kernel, I mean it all works fine but when swiping the screen around (homescreens, drawer, up and down through apps etc, the screen jitters and the image distorts, went back to PA halfbreed kernel to see if it was the rom but the halfbreed kernel seemed to work fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fjhuerta:
Yeah, I started with 150mV, then dropped to 125mV. Same thing happened. I'm clicking those boxes - when the phone turns itself off, the settings are lost and the app won't save settings anymore unless I uninstall, wipe cache, wipe Dalvik, and reinstall. Very weird.

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Thanks for your answer. I can live with it, the kernel really is more responsive than stock, and so far, thermal throttling doesn't seem to be an issue. I can't wait to compare it side by side to my boss' stock N4.

Regarding thermal throttling, my phone couldn't finish a single instance of 3DMarks Extreme test without lowering its CPU speed. I now ran two tests back to back with no throttling. The phone now works as it should have from the factory!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scandalousk:
You seriously need to search the thread. Search for screen tearing and you'll find your answer.

Or even easier, read the PA thread title and read the title of this thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fjhuerta:
Double post
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tekken179:
You seriously need to calm down, missing something once in a while is no cause for the "repeated post police" to reply almost instantly, nothing better to do mate?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
[AOSPA 4.3 JSS15J] PARANOIDANDROID and [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r174 - JWR66V wait and he will relies a version for JSS15J.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2382880

I think we need to post this once every page or so, without any further explanation. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vandrix:
4.3 has 2 version. JSS15J and JWR66V. For now franco only support JWR66V. I think the title explain it all.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ashishmehraa:
Wifi Sleep

I flashed the latest #174 today morning.. Been around 14 hours and have been facing WIFI problem since then..

When my device screen is off, the wifi stops working, it starts as soon as I turn on the screen..

Also when I change the frequencies, it doesnt change them..

Need a solution for wifi asap, been facing a lotta issue cuz of it..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
No problem here on 4.3 and 174. Are you fully root? What build are you using?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
What rom? .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ashishmehraa:
Yes Full Root.. Im also on Android 4.3..Dunno why um I facing this problem!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bobtehblob:
Ignore.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Maybe some big neon lights?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
What build do you use JSS15J or JWR66V ?

Well ....

[AOSPA 4.3 JSS15J] PARANOIDANDROID and [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r174 - JWR66V wait and he will relies a version for JSS15J.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Qwerty123 \m/:
Very well then. You guys have compelled me to upgrade! :P

Downloading the newest PA Rom :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
FYI this kernel is not compatible with PA at this moment...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ashishmehraa:
Im on JWR66V.. Thats what on which this kernel is based right.. :/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Qwerty123 \m/:
Well sheeeeeeit.

Guess i'll just wait. Silently.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bombadier:
Yip
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ashishmehraa:
Any solution to my problem then? Any way to change the wifi sleep policy or just deactivate it??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
Yes try this Rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2385619 it works form me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ashishmehraa:
Alright cool.. Downloading it..

Thank you!! Do the kernel frequencies change and work on this one?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bombadier:
You could try changing Keep Wifi on during sleep to something else then back to Always and try disabling Wifi Optimisation,have you missed these settings in Wifi Advanced?

There was a bug on my galaxy nexus which doing the above seemed to fix
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ashishmehraa:
Thanks for the tip to disable wifi optimization.. I think this myt be the cause of the trouble im facing. Just disabled it.. Ill check n get back if it solves my issue..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
Tow things: the gpu freq. doesn't not stick on 325 after reboot is back to 400 and to apply colors you net to turn off and on the screen, beside those 2 things all is working fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bobtehblob:
The colour change on screen on/off is intentional. I can vouch for the gpu freq resetting itself on boot, everything else is sticking however.

Another minor issue I've experienced too Franco. Not sure if it's the app or kernels fault. When trying to change individual frequencies, occasionally the frequency will jump in 50mv increments instead of 25mv. It's only on the pop up (1050mv as opposed to 1025mv shown in the background).

Other than that. Holy s***. R174 at 1.5ghz touch boost is hooning! :eek: