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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

That a reboot takes a lot of juice, we know it. 20% is however too much, that is incorrect reporting. Same as when the battery doesn't drop for half an hour of constant use and then drops 5% in one go. Or that it goes up instead of down, happens too. :p

I've only had it on the n4, the GN doesn't have it for example.

It is a 4.2.1 issue on the n4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
is r61 official yet or just in testing phase? i would like to use the UV mode! thanks anyone have a good but safe settings for a 'fast' cpu binning? thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

The sgs2 had it on 2.3, 4.0 and 4.1.

Back then it was said that this is not android related, but a bug of the battery fuel gauge.

Anyway nothing to do with Franco, sorry...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] iGoogleNexus:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Well... You could say its officially in testing phase =D

#Team MiNCO

**G1→N1→NS→GN→N⁴**
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] javacody:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

There's a good reason why we "kiss Franco's ass". Its because he works DAMN hard to provide us with a FREE kernel that makes our phones better.

I really hope you stop using Franco's stuff and exit this thread. Because you clearly don't get what this is all about.

And no, I don't feel Franco owes me anything. I've had his paid app since before the N4 and he's put out WAY more updates than just about any app out there.

I've gotten my money's worth times ten.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thunderinacircle:
R61 - I Can't Believe It's Not Butter

I'm getting essentially the same battery life on R61 as I was on R53, but with substantially better performance. This has equated to approximately 25% of my battery per 1 hour of screen-on time while on mobile data exclusively. Standby drain is virtually non-existent now that I uninstalled the PGM Touch Mod.

I was about to switch back to R47 as I felt it had a better combination of performance/battery than R53. R61 has solved that problem. As this is our first dabble with the new ideas behind R61, I'm excited to say the least.

I have a "faster" binned CPU and set all my voltages -150, even 1026 (which is currently stable at 800mV). I have 384 and 486 set to 700 and 725mV, respectively; I think I have gathered from my reading that regardless of what the app says they will not go below 750mV. I didn't use the kernel long enough before UVing to be able to determine if it's helping at all. Either way, very happy with things as they are now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tweaked:
What I think you should do is learn to compile a kernel and then become the Ppls dev. Millions of users will flock to your source code, looking for your coding insight and they will rejoice in your open mind and continual requests for their opinion on stuff they have no clue about. But you'll never get bitter or mad, You'll just code the most amazing stuff ever!......not :silly:

Sir, your work is top notch and apprecaited as is. Your response was over the top nice. Lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TeddyBeers:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Small update to my 20% battery drop after single reboot.

It's look like it's not related to Franco r61 cause I've flashed back r53 and then after few hours of standard use battery drop to 57% and stuck for two hours even while listening music for more than hour.

Either this is general Franco kernel bug or is completely not related to kernel - don't know but battery stats look weird.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ranguvar:
It's just the battery stat reporting being wonky as usual.

I went to work with a ~60% battery, left with it at 54%, then had it drop 15% in about as many minutes, only to have it stay the same while listening to music and continually checking Maps the whole way home.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tcmean:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I have the same battery drop happens sometimes when I reboot to recovery. However, sometimes another reboot will bring back to the same percentage or 1% lower before 1st reboot. I believe this is a problem with the battery reporting.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmejiaa:
I noticed I haven't plugged my phone in at work in the past couple of days, before I used to always be plugged in..

Goes to show how much I trust this Kernel now to give me good battery life and last throughout the day, in the past even at 50% I'd charge to 100 because I knew I wasn't going to get through the evening.

On 53 still, Good job Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

*sync*_com.android.contacts is my highest partial wake lock .... More than gmail sync and I've gotten about 20 emails so far.... Any thoughts why its so much higher?

sent from my r53-Franco nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Something borked at syncing contacts? Uncheck it and check it again to re-sync and reboot once done.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zoccat:
running r61 for 1 day now, with Franco's recommended Interactive tunables, IO scheduler row, and some what I consider morderate, safe UV. performance is superb, clearly better than r53, while battery life seems to be on par at least, can't say for sure yet. Franco for president! :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ObihoernchenDE:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Franco could you include cpufreq_bench for testing please :) ?

Should be pretty useful to tune our governor. Because cpuinfo_transition_latency is 0

http://lwn.net/Articles/339862/

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-power-kernel/+spec/improve-cpufreq-ondemand-governor

http://ftp.riken.go.jp/archives/Linux/suse/people/ckornacker/cpufreq-bench/

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Interesting.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m3lover1:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Try r61 test with the interactive settings! It's incredible how smooth it is and awesome the battery is. Franco really killed it with this version. Haven't tried the conservative yet, will try that after today to see which I like better.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Hey guys,

Last night I flashed r61 and every time I would save the chosen voltages the phone would auto-reboot. I even tried saving it while it was on it's default voltages. It still reboots.

Im not sure if this issue has been addressed but if it has already then I'm sorry that I find can't find it. I'm on a fast bin CPU.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deepsunzhine:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Guys im really lost here....ive been reading ans reading about the changes in the app and kernel....wut are the diffetences between conservative and the other governor options.....thnx...i used to use interactive but now i see conservative...

Sent from my NEXUS 4

CM 10.1

Franco r61
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2017715

[GUIDE] Android Governors Explained [Update 1/13/2013]

That should help you out a bit. It breaks all of them down for you.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] formicae:
Try a search when you're lost. Here, a freebie: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1736168

Edit: JNewms's is maybe better because of the link to extra stuff about schedulers and TCP congestion avoidance.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DutchDogg54:
I had a minor freakout yesterday when trying to get r61test going, too. I think it was a combination of superSU & franco's app updating along with changing UV, etc. I was getting system lock ups (like the whole device would freeze) before even adjusting anything UV related.

Once I went in and adjusted my first UV setting, after device locked up twice (not a major adjustment - I'm a faster binned and I went down 100) the system locked up again and I was forced to hold the power button. It boot looped so I went manually to recovery and tried flashing a different franco kernel...51 I think. It still boot looped. Tried wiping caches, boot looped.

Had to restore an old nandroid, then reflash the update to my rom I hadn't nandroided yet. Then I went back and uninstalled the franco app and reinstalled. Everything has been awesome since. Got my UV set at around -150 on the interactive settings Franco posted. Best experience yet - down with hotplugging! :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fluffenforliberty:
I feel like a retard but I can't find the damn post with those settings, I have probably scrolled through 50 pages?!?!!? Or is it the standard Interactive settings for this kernel? I wanna test interactive cus Conservative is stuttery sometimes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
guys did u open supersu and update the binaries after each supersu app update from the store? i notice in these days its two updates (one justnow) delivered binaries updates as well.

i also updated both of the apps almost instantly when i got them, and played with UV. did not have any reboots described.

cheese, did u try wiping app data? reflash kernel or even redownloading it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LinkinParkmetre:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Franco, suggestion for your app :

For each frequency, show stock voltage, new voltage, voltage difference.

This could help a lot!

Thanks a lot for your work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
no, dont scroll for a single post next time. only scroll when you're keeping up with the thread.

press the advanced search button beside the search bar at the top of the thread

check "exact name" box, type "franciscofranco"

keywords type "interactive"

and you will go to this page: http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=133987768

on the 8th result you will see "Guys please try this interactive tunables"

press on it and you will get:

and the recommended values will be the default on franco's next official nightly release

hope i helped you :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trident167:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

That's a great idea. After changes its hard to remember unless they are written on a piece of paper that you can't find.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
Or write down stock values in your notepad! :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DutchDogg54:
Yep, binaries were updated before any of the issues I had occurred. Honestly, I don't know whether the device lock ups were in regards to the kernel or the app updates, or some other unknown factor. But the undervolting lock up, followed by boot loops, doesn't seem to be able to be tied to anything else. But like I said, everything is epic winning now. Thankfully I'm an old school Androider who's always nand backed up...probably be sweating bullets without recovery backups lol :D Thanks Franco - loving the test builds and the general back and forth development style of your work. :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
I took a screenshot of the stock voltages and just hit recent apps and i can see it in the preview picture :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
while that might be a good idea to make the app feature-wise, i suggest that wouldn't be of high priority compared to kernel development

since two years ago when i played with OC/UV, i always make something similar to this for myself: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s79/...noteGuid=015fb839-7bc1-4f9b-b7a0-3ca7b1c7d899

maybe you can take it as reference :p

also this would be the list of stock (factory voltages) and franco's preundervolted voltages since r52 if you would just like to have a look:

https://github.com/franciscofranco/mako/commit/faf8a86b9223fe58b1b2b371fb8a10cb5da839ab
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
My UV values were set before SU update, I updated binaries today and UV levels are the same. Did not experienced any bug or similar
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Conservative

I dont get how u guys got conservative to run this good ( yes GOOD for those of u that dont like my Grammer ;)) i almost forgot i changed from i interactive.

Nice work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fluffenforliberty:
Thank you very much!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] javacody:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I too had some funny stuff around the su update and undervolting.

Should have rebooted after the su update BEFORE I tried undervolting.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apat183:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Hey, on r61 I lost 20% battery over night. Looked at BBS and it looks like msm_hsic_host was awake for an hour. I thought this was fixed? What would cause it to wake for an hour?

I'm not that familiar with kernels wakes etc so please excuse my noobness.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Running this combo quite well:

Governor control:

above hispeed delay: 15000

go hispeed load: 90

hispeed freq: 1026

min_sample_time: 45000

timer_rate: 30000

target_loads: 80

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Am I stupid or am I doing something wrong?

When I go to Frequencies/Voltages => Voltages I don't see any voltages.

Where do you go to set the voltages?? :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] siscim23:
You have to use either r60 or r61
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Install r61 test

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
What r u seeing with those settings? Speed /battery? Loving conservative for battery but interactive is just more my style
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] omvir:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Grammar ** :p just playing ahah

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Getting 4.5 hers screen on. I always like interactive personally as well :)

I would say that getting the other cores to offline like r53 would also help.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I read from another kernel thread that the screen can be undervolted. Is there such a thing?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Harsh:
Yes but brightness is lost. Also ambient light sensor becomes useless. Need double fixing for one change. Not worth the effort and loss.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] undercover:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

From what I found screen doesn't use that much battery tbh. Not when reading books at least. If I was to read a book non stop I'd probably hit 9-10h screen on. The main battery hog is backlight, can't see how undervolting that would help since it would most likely be dimmer and you'd have to ramp it up to make it usable.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Like a boss:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
lol, thanks to your comment I noticed I had: above hispeed delay: 150000 (one more 0) :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Wow lol. Glad to help :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
Concerned battery life guy here,

How is this working out for 4 cores on all the time? Is there a better method of perhaps 2 cores online with UI, then online the next 2 cores when the GPU is enabled? I just don't feel comfortable having 4 cores fired up when I'm reading a kindle book. I am reading that currently batter life isn't affected that much, but it doesn't mean that we can't save more!

Maybe a simple hot plugging technique that fires up 4 cores only when GPU intensive applications?

thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Nexus 4 available on play store. All these questions are gonna be asked again:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svenmaster:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I know that benchmarks are not very relevant but... Just ran a antutu bench with 61test and recommended interactive settings...

i was surprised :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
the other thing is BAD reception/congestion. You could be waiting forever because the network is stuck, which causes Android to continue trying to sync. I had this once with Gtalk where my company blocks gtalk protocol, but since I was on wifi with only 1 bar it tried to sync all day long and caused a 4 hr wakelock til I caught it at lunch.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
That's for latest versions, if you like hotplugging try previous versions.

r61 is by far, the best one, without hotpugging!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] immunityx:
what rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svenmaster:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

New rasbeanjelly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

The one with the linaro patches? I have it downloaded on my phone. Need some of my texts for work tomorrow. Planning to flash after work. How's the rom- ui, battery, heat wise?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Svenmaster:
yep, this one. cant say anything about battery and heat yet because flashed it 1hour ago and im charging phone atm.

but it feels very smooth... maybe that means nothing because with r61 every rom would be smooth i guess ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] techmatlock:
There's always one who posts without reading...

. In case you missed what I posted previously, I said I needed clarification on the structure of this kernel development since I was a little skeptical of some of franco's posts. I never said franco owes me anything...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I was wondering how long that would take :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] superleeds27:
R61

OnDemand, standard settings seems pretty smooth to me. Using CFQ With the modified settings
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Do let me know

---------- Post added at 12:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 AM ----------

IMHO he doesn't owe u a clarification either. But he still clarified. Mate to be honest u sounded like the world owes you stuff.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stankyou:
Did franco limit the lowest voltage value you can use to 700mV or 750mV? I think I've seen it being discussed but I can't find it now considering how fast discussion on this thread goes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mjehan:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Franco are you using the latest Linaro toolchain to compile the kernel ? There are certain performance improvements.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SubwayJrd:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LlNNU0JhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..

Back up your SMS and MMS to take to other ROMs. Has worked flawlessly for me for about 1.5 years. No need to worry about losing the messages if you can just have them backed up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mjehan:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Good work guys. Looks very promising :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Hi,

Is this discussion?:

It took me 10 minutes to find it, I hope it's good :D:o:victory::victory::victory:

:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
WOW!!! No respect and u make no sense at all, u really r confused on what community development is, he spends 1000,s of hour's developing HIS!! kernel and another 1000 hour's reading OUR comments , asking OUR suggestions, all 4 free, how is that not community??? what have u added to the development of this kernel? U want want want but cant even spend 5$, exactly what i thougt u bought the app and feel its your kernel now and he owe u something, how bout the 1000 hours of his time, that dont mean **** tho right. No respect ,
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
I'm looking at Trickster Mod, it seems like with r61, my CPU fails to shut down unused cores like it does in r53.

It seems to be draining my battery faster than r53, not too happy about that... it does make the system a bit snappier since all 4 cores are active but I'm not sure which one I value more, battery savings or performance...

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stretlow:
There have been some seriously petty and childish comments on Franco's threads over the last twelve months but I think you've just taken the cake.

This bloke has put in endless hours over the last twelve months, working on something he provides for free. He has a paid app should you want to support him.

Its ignorant, selfish idiots like you that probably make these devs want to fcuk it all of.

Grow up you child
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] prbassplayer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

You sir need to read a little. There is no hot plugging in 61.and there is no battery side effects. Power states are being used. Afaik

Sent from my Slim Bean powered Mako
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] redmamoth:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Does the Franco kernel use different WiFi drivers to stock? I've noticed that when I arrive home and my WiFi auto connects, the speed is limited to about 1.5mbits. If I turn WiFi off then back on again it connects at full speed. The same happens after I've been to bed. Anyone experience the same?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What are the recommended settings for cfq and conservative? I'm on the app so no search. Also for interactive? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
So franco decided to remove the ability to shutting down cores? Not sure about no battery side effects since I do see my battery % going down faster than it did on r53 ... though more testing is required on my end for me to confirm my findings.

As for reading, I tried reading as much as I can but with 500+ pages in a thread, it's hard to find information.

Thanks,

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Just the guy i was looking for. Sent pm
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Exidrion:
Not to mention he could have left the first part of post out but conveniently chose not to.

Just lol.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] andyli1985:
I wish there is a thumb-down button on posts like this.

It seems like you think Franco ( and maybe the community here) owe you services after you paid for the app? It doesn't work like that here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] prbassplayer:
Well helps to use the search feature to narrow it down. Not saying it be very specific but from 500+ pages probably to 50? ish. ;). As for battery I've personally haven' seen any drop. I'm still getting the 12-14 hours a day with 4+ hours of screen time, which was about the same I was getting on his 5x builds but with better performance. Keep in mine I'm constantly flashing a rom (every day or 2) so I never really let it settle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
May I ask what are your kernel parameters are? Probably I'm not setting mine correctly...

Cheers,

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Devildog78965:
just flashed lets see how this goes
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] prbassplayer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Same ones franco mentioned. See pic. Also using Row.

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