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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dwang:
good question.

Please take a look at this post, where I did a deep idle comparison between motley b21 (no 3g hsic wakelock fix) and motley b22 (with 3g hsic wakelock fix) and found no increase in battery life with b22.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36947171&postcount=1053

So it seems like the 3g radio is draining most of the battery and not the wakelock. You can see from the screenshots that the hsic wakelocks have been substantially reduced, but no increase in battery life.

In my location, I don't get great reception (2/3 bars) so maybe if you are in an area where you get great reception u may see better battery life with the 3g hsic wakelock fix.

However, they finally did seem to fix the data drop issues, I didn't experience any 3g data drops while on motley b22 or harsh kernel which also has the 3g wakelock fixes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

The question was never which consumes more power.... I believe... It was what is causing those micro-lags people were experiencing. It may be true that a single core @ 1.5ghz consumes the same power as dual core @ 750mhz .... But I think what we noticed when Franco switched from online-ing a second core to simply ramping up the single core is that the system experiences a delay (startup time) while the second core activates. This startup delay does not exist (or is negligible) when ramping a core that's already online.

sent from my r50-Franco nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

I did a complete fresh install of pa yesterday, then updated to r50 when franco released it. So far I have been very happy with the battery and performance. I know there are a few that say there is lag, but I can't get it to lag for anything.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GJ123:
Interesting :)

I think we need a new radio, the SII I was speaking about fluctuates very much with different radios/basebands.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fetto666:
Honestly, this is the first time i have actually even considered using an LG phone.

The previous crap from LG i used was the "Chocolat" phone - completely useless.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jkoljo:
Yes, I agree with you, it probably not very well optimized. But as there might be about 30% increase in computing power (as in my example) when using two cores, it might be worth a shot :) And high load situations, such as gaming, are also worth thinking about. The graph might give some clue about whether to ramp one core or multiple cores.

... and of course we want to preserve good battery life, too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

I thought it was: 1 core at 1000 mhz takes more power than 2 on 500

Isn't this the case? Just wondering because of the changes in 50.

Wouldn't it make more sense to add more cores if more power is needed and keep the frequency down?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Go go go! Touch control works!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
@franco

This appears to be the normal behaviour that I and others also experience, see posts #790 and #791 above reporting the same.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Ok then, time to try something else :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
r11:

* Add Thalamus Generic ARM Hotplug Control which means mpdecision will no longer be activated
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
You're quick! Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dragooon123:
What are the negatives of disabling mpdecision?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whittikins:
Yep none are going past 1350 when it's set as the max. So, where do you go from here? Seems like a big step!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Probably see users reaction for a few days and maybe keep improving thalamus code since I really dont want mpdecision trying to be funny all the time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
None.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dragooon123:
That's the spirit :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] MiG123:
how do i enable fast charge in the latest versions? the fast charge app on the market says unsupported kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
you have to use the franco kernel app (paid app but worth it) https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mcmFuY28ua2VybmVsIl0.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derPianist:
I do smell the first Milestone. :D

Franco, you are awesome. Really.

via Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kaiowas82:
Where is the option? I have the app but can't find it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] harpo1:
Look back a couple pages, you'll have to enable it via a terminal app. He'll be adding it to the his app soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apzalo:
It has been working for me so far.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
What he said. Franco will add it in the app when he gets a chance to.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] biffsmash:
Cheers franko for awesome kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Razer(x):
Faux disappointed me, moving back to franco.

Waiting for UV support
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] danielvc:
R11 running great here, can't wait for the new version of the app.

And it's nice to see more people from the good old days in the Gnex / Nexus S forums :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 0.0:
i saw this in motley's kernel: RGB color tweak to reduce greenish-yellow tint (no app required)

is it possible to be able to add this in somehow? yellowish tint does occur for some thats why. just wondering. if you decide to put it in your kernel, i could test it out if you want. thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jkoljo:
Yes, that is the topic we are discussing, whether it is a good idea. See a few pages back..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] solrac.dc:
+1 I have also found that with r50, I have not seen data lag whatsoever ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
50 build , NO lag anywhere with any app ( that I use anyway ) , so smooth and fast , battery drain very very slow , NO heat , data issue seems to be gone now for me , liking 50 a lot so far been testing it since few minutes after released with aokp build 2 with 100% Franco settings besides logs and fync turned off

Thanks Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Do you use YouTube, Facebook, Whatsapp or xda app? Honestly I personally experience different levels of stutter in those apps.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GJ123:
Facebook, Whatsapp and xda are horrible apps.

No solution as of yet.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jak3z:
No lag on youtube and Facebook for me, I dont use the xda app since is 90% broken.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
with r50 on data connection, unfortunately I am still having around 20% of time of msm_hsic_host wakelock

drained a lot of battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
No lag on YouTube used it last night for over a hour on data no WiFi , people been complaining about Facebook and xda apps for years now on all 16 androids I've owned ,but I don't use those 2 apps
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fluffenforliberty:
Everything microstutters and stutters with francos kernel except the app drawer
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Scottyfer:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Funny, besides the xda app the ONLY thing that has any stuttering for me is the app drawer. It's only when it first opens, but I have it pretty consistently.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ethoss:
R: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Many impressions...

There are some micro lags, when I open an app or when I go in to multitasking.

In AOSP browser when I scroll a little there are microlags. Sometimes when I tape on keyboard there are microlags, sometimes...

Battery si like the same as previous release.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bar81:
I will keep testing r50 but after about an hour it seems that data drops are gone but stuttering all over the place.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fozzie:
Is there a way to hide posts that mention "microlag" or the newly made up "microstutter"?!

Just saying...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

An hour is nowhere near long enough to make judgements. Give it a day to let the kernel settle.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djemgee:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Force GPU rendering in developer menu :o

Works for me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
What ROM u guys using that have stutter ? New aokp build 2 and franco 50 , are just ridiculously perfect here
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Armin_van_buuren:
I have a few hours with the r50.

Very good fluency in general but I've seen some things ......

Lag takes multitasking even previewed the background applications.

The low battery hit 3-4% and thus leads from this morning. It use to give my Nexus and low battery that way.

A couple of times I had to be locked by pressing power button several times until it eventually unlocked.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bar81:
Will do, thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Have fun with r51-test microlags etc should be eliminated maintaining the same battery usage. I'll give it 12/24 hours before making it public.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Armin_van_buuren:
For my part I begin now to try it.

Thank you Francisco.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ansysic:
Ok, I tested it now on my own PA install. Runs really great and there's not this "traditional" lag but stuttering. AOSP Browser for example stutters while scrolling a bit to heavy for me in contrast to r47. Movement seems fluid, but it hangs for milliseconds...

I think one core can be enough and we only have to adjust Interactive governor parameters.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bar81:
Brainmaster's Lucid ROM 4.2.1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
r51 is great
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

I myself just flashed the r51 test build. I will wait until later tonight to give my impression, but I'm sure it will be great for me, as I didn't experience any drop in performance on 50.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pro.aggro:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

My screen starts flickering after flashing r51.back to r50 and it's gone

Sent from Nexus 4 powered by PARANOIDANDROID
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SchmilK:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Wow what a jump in smooth from 50 to 51 in the xda app!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

No screen Flicker here. I would recommend trying to re download 51 and flash it again

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zFayZz:
I dont get how some people suffer from lag with this kernel.. I certainty had a great experience in terms of performance.. I just wish battery life improved.. Still only get 4hrs screen time and i dont game on my phone
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] udjat:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

So nice!

Thanks Franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'll say it again that wakelock is dependable on how long you use 3G vs Wi-Fi. Its too high and Google is working on the fix.

The screen is not flickering, sorry.

Battery life is squeezed mostly to the maximum, theres not much I can do to squeeze more. 4 hours screen on time is pretty good -.-
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Not working with 51 anymore did work with 50 :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
got it got it.. so it's unfixable for now then.

just confirming

because i have seen people mentioning they do not have those kinds of wakelocks and I now have to assume that they are mostly on wifi.

thanks franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atub:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

My screen is flickering as well after flashing r51. Actually only in Chrome. Scrolling in Chrome is lagging very badly as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maddoggin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Seriously? ONLY 4 hours screen time? Lmao! Good one!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] comminus:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

No screen flicker here. Chrome beta has less issues with lag than the non-beta. This is an application issue, not kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] beeboss:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Sure,something is wrong with r50 in terms of smoothness , r34 and stock cm kernels are way more fluid .
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

4 hours screen time is wonderful already. Although I don't mind it can go further than but it's up to Franco.

I think you should get a nexus 7 tablet. You can get way more than 4 hours on screen! Lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Pully:
Touchcontrol aka PGM Nexus is working for me on r51 of the kernel, I unloaded the TOuchcontrol from within the app then updated the kernel then reloaded Touchcontrol.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Franco just post a Kernel with 1.5Ghz min/max and say you fixed the 'microlag', but don't say how you did it^^

This should work, if you still receive "I have microlag in XDA/Tapatalk" then you will know for sure that you can focus on something else in kernel development and don't need to hunt those microlags :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] atub:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

I am using the beta. Let's see how it feels after a few hours.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pro.aggro:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Flashed 51 again and now it's ok. I don't know, what was wrong.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

He already knows it isn't good kernel that is causing lag in xda. Some people just like to blame the kernel. The worst thing is, is that they want their phone to last days without charge, yet want it to be the fastest thing ever.. Not possible, if you want killer battery, you must sacrifice some. I have zero lag and love the battery life. I wish everyone was getting the same results as I am, but it's impossible to please everyone.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm not going to work much more on this smoothness vs battery thing, r51 is good for me now and the less I mess with the better.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

you know best, I'll happily take what ever comes next.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vomer:
wait... there is more smoothness to be achieved with more battery?! Soon I wont need to charge my phone for a week :D :good: :highfive:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Juppehup:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

This is just freaking awesome! Battery life is amazing, speeds superb and now this. Franco, you are definitely THE man....! :thumbup:

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ya tried that and it failed to load dunno but if working for u I'll have to mess with some more . thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GJ123:
Wow r51 feels extremely bad here, multitasking is way better on r34.

I know this is just a really quick impression but had it running for half an hour and I wanted to throw my phone out of the window.

Back to r34, franco I hope you can make this smoother :(

But

I really like your work until now and trust you make everything even more fluid than now!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
51 is great but Im finding 50 a lot snappier , rolled back to 50 for now , thanks Franco

---------- Post added at 11:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 AM ----------

Didn't experience any of what u describe , 51 ran great , I like 50 better feels faster to me but 50 and 51 run smooth as hell , not even comparison to 34 IMO
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Sent from a Paranoid N4

---------- Post added at 03:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:31 PM ----------

You must be doing something terribly wrong... 51 isn't the least bit slow.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
Idk why ppl are thanking you for stating something that is totally subjective..but anyway.. here goes...

I feel r46 was the best out of the test builds so far in terms of smoothness, lag etc. If i had to go back to a normal build I would pick r33. Currently using r51 and still have the micro stutter just scrolling through my app drawer. As far as screen flickering, I dont experience that. I think trying to squeeze every ounce of battery is sacrificing performance. Just my 2 cents. I will continue to use franco kernel no matter what.

forgot to quote the post above me...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Microlags seem to disappear with r51 using load at 50.

ROM: MINCO v5 N7

Kernel: Franco r25

T-Mobile USA
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
seems like it went from '70' on r50 to '60' on r51 too to help out..ill try 50.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Oh snap! R51 is so fast and smooth! I'm scrolling in between apps and it's too quick for me to catch on to. I never had this snappiness before. Like damnnnn! I'm lost for words...lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Armin_van_buuren:
Microlags in multitasking have passed into history with r51

All runs smooth fluid.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Try lowering the load at 50... That should take care of it which is what I did and worked... No lags here.

ROM: MINCO v5 N7

Kernel: Franco r25

T-Mobile USA
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I guess I'll need to add an option to enable/disable cores onlining on touch swipping to account for everybody's usage. r51 is 100% fine to me though, no lag at all no matter what I do.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] abjexstallion:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

So Franco... With 51, which are your settings for go hispeed load and hispeed freq? Or at least the stock frequencies?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheByteSmasher:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Would you mind adding the ability for the app to realize it didn't download a zip file (if, for example, you forgot to upload it or misnamed it) instead of pretending it did then asking if you want to auto flash?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] digweed4me:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Did franco implement gamma code given by faux yet?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

He said he will never implement faux's code.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Don't remember, flash it and see.

We'll see.

No, and I'm not gonna implement any faux code, I already wrote this a gazillion times.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Does it matter why people thank me? Maybe they did it because they agree.

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
50 and 51 are pretty badass !!!! Flawless so far
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CaspaTheGhost:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Bedtime but quick post before I see the cousin of death...

R50 was a little choppy at times, but this appears to have been dealt with in r51. Battery on r50 seems on par with recent builds, so I'm imagining it will be comparable on r51.

Tomorrow will tell, but I'm liking it so far, I notice the difference in performance.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zFayZz:
R51 is great on battery life and performance no lag at all..got 4hrs screen 30% battery.. Could get close to 5hrs i rekon.. I wouldnt mind a bit of lag for extrabattery life.. Especially in areas where its not as important like browsing and scrolling through homescreens..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ibegary:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

So far 47 has been better to me then 50. Might stay on it for a while.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SchmilK:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Since flashing r51. I think this is my favorite so far! And battery is the best yet!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Franco... Does that mean when r51 goes nightly that we'll see a github push too? .... and as a Dev, how do you deal with 4.2.2 coming out? Do you do a diff to see what's different and then copy and paste your code in or so you view it like a fresh project and start analyzing it anew?

Thanks

sent from my r50-Franco nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] udjat:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

It's working in 51 just fine for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] winner00:
He already has all the stuff that was up until r50 pushed. I would think he does a git merge since it probably won't have a ton of changes from 4.2.1. He will probably have to wait and see though to see how many changes there really are.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bleuf1sh:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

My github app never pinged me... Thanks!!

sent from my r50-Franco nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Ups forgot to push r51 changes, thanks for reminding.

Depends on the amount of changes they do. If it breaks too many thinks that I've done I start fresh, if not I just cherry-pick all the new patches.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benrees21:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

I'm waiting for 51 to go nightly before flash. :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

It's sweet man, I'm surprised you're able to wait... Lol

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elliot.newnham:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

R51 is the bees knees.

Love it. Super smooth and glides. Online and offline cores smartly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

I totally agree. I can't say too much about battery yet, I've only been on it 4 or 5 hours I think. But from what I've seen it's holding battery really well so far. Every time I think it can't get any better Franco blows my mind again. :)

Sent from a Paranoid N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r34

Battery here is amazing with r51... Still in 78% with 5 hours of use and 1:30 screen on... By this time I should have been in 50% battery... The whole day in H+.

I still feel there's still a little bit of headroom for smoothness even though I don't have lags... Just very once in a while micro lags in some apps... But no biggie.

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4

ROM: MINCO V6

Kernel: Franco r51

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ziggyyy:
whats the default go_hispeed_load? i changed it a few kernels back trying to make it play nice (i was having issues with it) and now i have no idea what to set it back to.

would be grateful
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
ya thats what somone else said also ,I can't get it to work with 51 worked fine with 50 , IMA reflash my ROM here in a Lil see if works . thanks