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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
I never expected them to produce a kernel that would be on the same level as franco's. I do think touch is a little better though. I caught myself thinking about how much it sucked not having his kernel on 4.3, I think we've all gotten spoiled with his work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Cuzz1369:
That would be the worst thing that could happen to us. If he did work for Google he wouldn't be able to share his amazing work with us.

Carbonized and francofied N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thebryceee:
Yup.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Just went back from 4.3. And the whole experience is noticeably smoother than what we have been on 4.2.2 Franco. Not complaining but an observation.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thebryceee:
How is HSDPA performance? Any better?

On 4.3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Hey bro.. Did you have to update bootloader and radio for 4.3? I'm thinking I don't want to stop using radio 33

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4 \m/

ROM: PA 3.60

Kernel: Franco r163

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
I updated both for mine, but others have said they stayed on the LTE radio with no issues.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Oh I'm sure Franco will kill it once he gets the kernel source! ;)

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4 \m/

ROM: PA 3.60

Kernel: Franco r163

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Many people are reporting no in-call audio on .33 radio, but some claim they have audio on .27. I'm on .83 radio

You don't have to update bootloader if you don't want to but I'd suggest you do

Also Titanium Backup you have to change backup preferences for it to work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
How's 83 working for you comparing to old ones?

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4 \m/

ROM: PA 3.65

Kernel: Franco r163

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
I flashed it without doing anything else and I'm getting better data speeds in Phoenix. Was on the .54 radio.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
What do you have to change in titanium backup?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Go to Menu>Preferences>Backup folder location and select DETECT>Whole Device then choose /storage/emulated/legacy instead of emulated/0, then select No (or Yes either works) in next option, use that location and go back and restore your backup
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I definitely cant agree to that, i find franco alot better, i find n4's kernels unusable they throttle so fast, if i wanted a 1mhz phone id stuck witb my Nex s
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
+1

N4 Revolution&Demolition&NBK
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tlf55:
I'm getting battery drain with .83 .. 10% in 10 minutes .. Is that normal ??

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
No.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tlf55:
I've recently installed lux auto brightness maybe it's the cause ? I've didn't change settings in it .. All by default ..

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
I also use Lux but not having battery drain. Is the drain continuing?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tlf55:
No I flashed back .48 and not having drain anymore.. I don't see where the drain came from .. Just from the radio .. A bit disappointed because I had better signal with .83..

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Shano56:
Just wait for official radio. Maybe .83 isn't final. Maybe it doesn't play well with 4.2. Maybe you weren't patient enough and that drain you saw was 4.2 battery % reporting bugging out as usual.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Usually radio takes a day to settle.... So most likely it will drain after first flash..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jyuuken:
Using the leaked radio with no drain issues
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gpvecchi:
Not working for me. It says no folders found...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
Use root explorer
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
I know it can be different depending on roms and kernels, but for me, the leaked .83 baseband is improving the strength and quality of my signal. So, I guess it should help with battery draining in areas with bad signal.

Nexus4 / Carbon / Franco / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] chrisgtl:
Is anyone else still having Governor troubles with FKU?

I'm changing mine from the default interactive to ondemand on both the Frequencies/Voltages page and Per-App Power Modes, Default System Mode page and Status page still reports interactive as my governor.

I see Franco just pushed a new fixed FKU for this problem which I have installed but still getting this bug.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Gokh:
Hi franco, i use your kernel since some time and i very like it, especially for the battery which almost doubles, but i have a problem: when i let my phone charge during the night (phone turned off), i found it hot (very hot...), with the stock kernel, the phone is cold in the morning. i have tested severel times, clean install ect and same result, with older version (like v150) i dont remeber having this problem. does i'm the only one with this problem?

ps: stock rom, stock charger
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] odavans:
To chrisgtl

Try to clear app data
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Doo Doo:
Same here

Clearing app data didn't work either
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] strainhunter:
I had constant fc's too. I installed new, cleared app data, I even deleted all profiles and so in Franco.kernel updater folder, but still. Using newest version.

I switched to trickster... it don't use per app modes anyway.

And battery drain is now higher that with other kernels I tried. Not that it matter much for me, because it have a mobile battery with which I can charge my phone 3 times completely. But I noticed it.

Everyday I go from my place to the bus station which takes me about 5 minutes.

I unplug it from charger and then go to the bus.

With Franco I have lost ~1% when I arrive a the station. With faux or matrix I still have 100%. And when listening to music with screen off after 25 minutes I loose another 4%...with other kernels only 2%.

Dont know why.... I even set screen of max frequency lower, and hotplugging to 90.

Don't get me wrong.... in like this kernel very much... it has great performance and great smoothness. But it battery deceased for me, and it gets hotter, too.

Just what I observed the last week's... no disrespect. :)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus⁴

@ <CarbonROM>+faux+franco.Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gpvecchi:
To do what? I have no backup and I have to set the backup folder, as pre-set one doesn't work...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
Is it me or are the sound settings not sticking through updates? Seems like the sound settings go back to normal when it updates or something.

EDIT: By updates I mean fku updates not kernel updates, but I don't think it sticks through that either. I wipe app data every update anyway.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JeffyLube0:
Sticky for me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
Battery

Yes all the above are @ Franco's default settings.

However after some more serious phone use yesterday with over 5hrs of Screen-on time.

The graph seems more realistic.

When the screen is not on & the phone is in deep sleep the phone seems to hold charg remarkable well.

However, with the screen on & sufing the net for over an hour (you can probably spot it)

The phones battery level dropped off sharply.

This is to be expected (of course) but when sleeping the battery holds it's charge quite well.

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
I think you've answered your own question.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Of course he will:good:

I don't really care about throttling if it does not ruin my experience. Why would anyone care about that? Maybe I didn't use the stock rom for too long, I didn't notice the sudden drop in performance. Maybe it's just me.

One thing I observed is how consistently 2 cores are boosted at the same time at the same frequency on stock 4.3. It's like both 1GHz, then 1.2GHz. I try to reproduce it on franco setting similar values, but what I get is both 1GHz then 1GHz-1.4GHz on two cores. And when there is the switching of freq, it gives me the stutter.

Rather than just praising franco, which he deserves, why not take some good things from the smart people working in Google?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
No ;) i can feel the throttling is y i care. Total performance loss, ya its maybe a lil smoother at times when its not throttling, but im into speed and a constant smooth, witch i dont get from Google , and btw and im not praising anyone, its just fact, but hey if u like it then use it, its not bout me its bout u.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Maybe it's the climate. Maybe our hands are different. But I am sure we both want a perfectly smooth experience.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
No, I haven't. It still doesnt stick through fku updates. Kernel updates are different, I wipe put my settings and usually things are good, sometimes they aren't. But if fku updates it doesn't stick it seems.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Im in alaska :P. But if it didn't throttle so quickly (within minutes) i might agree more with u but for my use it just get to hot to quick then i can feel the performance loss.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lovesingh25:
Did u noticed any difference in colour calibration on stock 4.3??? Is it better than 4.2?

Can anybody post pics depicting the same??
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Yes its got better color calibration than stock 4.2.2 and its smoother, I also noticed less battery drain been using 4.3 since yesterday and its great, it has many under the hood improvements but nothing major in the UI worth noting besides camera app being new.

Just did a run on Beach Buggy Blitz and yes it throttles, but it took awhile and it wasn't anything so drastic that it would affect gameplay just a few skipped frames but I did a 50k run so I'm happy about that, and phone was hot as hell
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lorolouis:
:) I've been saying once something like there is no such thing like "default" FKU (of course I was and I am using the paid full version);

there are also no default Kernel settings or any way you can be 100% sure what will happen on next reboot, especially after an app or kernel upgrade.

You always have to check!

But some smart people said I was wrong.

So you should be wrong too :) unless you are still trying pirated FKU versions :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] inchoate:
Disclaimer: I know very little about the details of seLinux, other than what the point is and that it's kernel related. I know even less about kernels, other than the fact that this one has given me stellar performance, a noticeable improvement from stock.

That said, if I update CM to the latest nightly with seLinux, will I need to revert to stock CM kernel, or will Franco work with it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
There is a color difference and its better, but if your used to your own color settings its still ****ty :P. U can't post pictures of someone else screen its going to show up as your color. Im back on 4.2. If u use custom roms and kernels 4.3 really isn't going to benefit anything. The 83 radio is nice tho :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lovesingh25:
Thanx...

And now i just realized how silly i am for demanding the pictures...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dapsANDpoundz:
Not pirated, bought the app. But here's the thing, I have my earphones plugged in, put the boost value on 0 then increased to 6 and nothing happened. No notable increase in sound. Increased to 15, nothing. Not sure if its supposed to happen instantly or what.

Also, if you clear app data, everything clears for me like theme but vibration and headphone boost still say whatever I had it on before. Dunno why.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Shano56:
Clear app data then reboot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vecino:
I can't change governor - is still set as "interactive" and if I set max GPU speed to 128 ... after reboot is again set to 400MHz. Am I alone with this trouble ? With older CM 10.1.0 was all ok.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
You could always take a photo of the screen with another device
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dsmpampis:
One more time on R 154!

Tapatalked with my Nexus⁴ powered by ParanoidAndroid 3+
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
FKu has been updated.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pyr0sphere:
On r163, anyone have those settings franco posted a while back that he used personally? I remember they were pretty underclocked and he then had other settings for Per App Power Modes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Underclocking to 700, and threshold to 0 (4 cores always online), and gpu to 128

N4 / carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dhollmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pyr0sphere:
Thanks. The rest stock r162 then? Eg governor settings, suspend freq
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Yes. Or at least, he said nothing bout that.

I've used this settings, and work fine.

You'll need the per-app for hard games (if you use them), camera, and other apps if you feel them laggy

N4 / carbon / Franco / V4A

GT-P5110 / Carbon / Dhollmen / V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anazhd:
this was like 12 hours ago
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spartanhooah:
I'm just now starting to make use of the backup script on CM 10.1, and was wondering if/how I can go about adding your kernel to the script, so when CM is done updating, it'll automatically install your kernel. Is this possible? If so, how?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Then it took its sweet ass time to show up on my phone.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ΦDroid:
Compatibility with Android 4.3

When the 4.3 update comes will it be safe to flash the newest kernel, or will there need to be an update to the kernel before it can be used?

Basically will these current kernel versions be compatible with 4.3? Sorry I dont know my stuff.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Don't use any 4.2 kernels on 4.3. Wait for the kernel to be updated.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ΦDroid:
Ok thanks for the info.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheKaptone:
Just updated to the latest version of the app on my and my wife's phone but it doesn't respond on her device. I have removed it and restarted the phone and the installed again but it still doesn't respond

She is on stock apart from the kernel and I am on carbon ROM. Not sure what I should do
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JeffyLube0:
Here are my battery stats with 20% battery left on my most recent run on R163. Note: Most of this time was spent on WIFI and/or low brightness settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anazhd:
governor/scheduler/frequency/voltage please :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Colours seem better compared to Stock 4.2.2

It is less greyish. That's my feeling, it's been long time from stock 4.2.2.

I don't feel the need to calibrate the colour.

Still I prefer my own colour settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JeffyLube0:
384min, 1188max, 200MHz = max gpu freq

interactive

above_hispeed_delay = 20000

hispeed_freq = 1026 MHz

min_sample_time = 10000

timer_rate = 40000

input_boost_freq = 702 MHz (very slight lag sometimes, setting to 1026MHz remedies that)

deadline (tried row for a bit but deadline just seems smoother to me)

high_load_threshold = 60

suspend frequency = 594MHz

Uv -100 across the board
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scottx .:
4.3 is nice but Franco kernel is keeping me on 4.2.2 for now!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] anazhd:
Thanks. Gonna do some scientific hypothesis on this settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] limeaide:
:good:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43338858#post43338858
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nyyankees1237:
+1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
Hey Franco, Seems cm is doing it' stuff on SE Linux commits over the kernel. Would you be doing anything over this?

to be included in next nightly:

Initial SELinux policy. (android_device_lge_mako)

Add security hooks to binder and implement the hooks for SELinux. (lge-kernel-mako)

Do not ratelimit audit messages. We want to see them all. (lge-kernel-mako)

mako: wifi: Channel blocking when mobile network is no service state. (lge-kernel-mako)

Enable setting security contexts on rootfs inodes. (lge-kernel-mako)

Enable SELinux and its dependencies in the mako defconfig. (lge-kernel-mako)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Spiralzz:
Maybe once he returns from his vacation? ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] blueren:
Oh really? I didn't know he was off :P

Sent from a Nexus
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Not respond? What's that mean? What exactly of isn't working?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheKaptone:
Whenever I touch the app to open it up the only thing is the Franco sign at the top and black screen then after some time it says not responding and asks if I want to send deputy wait or close
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmudrick:
Has anyone done any serious testing of battery savings using per app modes? I'll be honest I love the concept and have been using per app modes since they were introduced but if there are benefits in SOT in my usage they are very small. Defaulted first to Franco's 702/4 core setting, then to 1188 max/default hotplug and still getting same 4-5 hour SOT I was getting before with same usage pattern. Surprised.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] admiez:
Was trying out the 4.3 leak for a while. Seems like Google added a few more frequency steps as part of their kernel changes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hypoxic1:
Yea, I'm seeing little difference. The 702/4 core setting isn't the best for battery. It gives a little more performance. I'm seeing excellent DEFAULT settings of 1026/2 core 100% threshold. I have to set GPU to 200Mhz b/c @ 128, there are sometimes screen flickers - only when starting/exiting an app it seems.

I'm having difficulty measuring the most efficient setting for intensive apps/games. Seems like most games run fine @ 1188/100% threshold (so 2 cores). I'm seeing no advantage using something like 702/0%. Sometimes that makes it much worse. Perhaps some games/apps don't take full advantage of multi-threads or what not. Not sure. I find that the 702/0% (4 cores always on) isn't enough & something like 1026/0% is a must. SO, I've been sticking with the 1188 & just 2 cores at 100% threshold. Does that make sense? I read it a few times, but it's tough putting that in the shortest format.

stock ROM/r163
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
I've noticed for the most part gpu 200mhz is fine. But if you open the recents menu in landscape, the scrolling is a bit choppy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JeffyLube0:
What's the point of having a quad core device if you're only using 2 cores?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gravitysandwich:
Some people want to save battery, even though that only saves like 7~14% I believe? I'm not sure..... Remember seeing something about single core, dual core, and quad core snapdragon comparisons. And I agree with you. What's the point? If I'm on long camping trips and all I have is a car charger or nothing that's the time to use dual core capped at like 702MHz or 1026MHz, lowest brightness, 128MHz for GPU. Logger and dmesg off. Airplane mode as much as possible, no games....etc
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hypoxic1:
Well this is what I'm trying to determine: if 2 cores are more efficient than 4. Obviously this will not apply the same to each app. With thorough testing, I'm finding that the phone gets warmer easier with the "low power quad-core" mode.

So the point is battery-to-performance. I don't need this phone to run at optimum speed since it easily handles most apps & games with only 2-cores @ 1188Mhz max. I'm only using 1512Mhz on Gallery, Wordlens, and something else I can't remember. :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TToivanen:
Try clearing f.ku app data and re launch it.

Sent from my Nexus⁴ running Unicorns™
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gravitysandwich:
Nvm my post, didn't know you were looking for efficiency, but btw hasn't this been discussed so many times in this thread? I've been using Franco kernel for a long time and I saw some discussions about this along the way.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hypoxic1:
NO, it has NOT been thoroughly discussed. I've searched all 40,000+ posts & I find a lot of vagueness.

Trying to determine best efficiency while running an 'intensive' app:

- stresses close to the 1188 max with 2 cores; so if running 1188 with 70% threshold, I find it kicks on the remaining cores far too often (isn't that inefficient?)

- running 4 cores at either 702 or 1026 - still seems to indicate all the cores sticking right around 702-1026 fulltime. Seems 1026/4 cores is required, as stepping down to 702/4 core from 1188/2 core isn't enough CPU power for the app. Again, possibly because of multithreading?

Also, if the CPU is running at 1188, then how much voltage is that with 2 & 4 cores online, respectively? If it says 1100mV @ 1188Mhz stock, does that mean 1100mV TOTAL for the processor or 1100mV x 4 cores?

I've searched the living poop out of this forum & Google prior to posting and find it difficult finding clear, concise, and ABOVE ALL

accurate

information about this (at least not in 1 spot). If this information IS somehow repeated, I feel this is very important information.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] limeaide:
[MENTION=922308]hypo[/MENTION]xuc1 the reason there is no real concise information is because nobody and I mean nobody that uses the phone the same as the next person much less the same day to day. When people start to talk about those tests they either get bored and don't do it or they are informed by Francisco that it doesn't matter use your phone however you want and enjoy it. Too many of you guys are more worried about getting that screen on time then using the dadgum phone.

[MENTION=4760545]jmudrick[/MENTION] Using jelly beer and franco kernel earlier this week I got almost two full days of use out of one charge. SOT was not near what others get but I was using play music, tapatalk, Reddit is fun, Google +, phone, and texting via mms and snap-chat. I meant to take a screen-cap multiple times before I plugged it in but life happened and I never got to. I'm using Francisco's settings he posted and I re-posted for default and like 1512/384 interactive 400gpu and 70 hot plug for most apps I use regularly. Really like I mentioned above just use your phone how you want don't worry about trying to get some super SOT and in time you will realize you're not charging the phone as much. When people are constantly monitoring that they end up with less then if they would just use the phone.

I could and probably should quote Francisco telling people to just stop monitoring that crap and enjoy the phone. You are letting something so minute dictate how you use your device.