yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] re4lsk:
yep done the same. ive noticed.

5 dirs 327,707,267,072 bytes libres

C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell
shell@mako:/ $ dir
dir
/system/bin/sh: dir: not found
127|shell@mako:/ $ su
su
root@mako:/ # ^V

cd
cd
root@mako:/ # cd
cd
cd
root@mako:/ # cat dmesh
cat dmesh
cat dmesh
sh: cat: dmesh: No such file or directory
1|root@mako:/ # cat dmesg
cat dmesg
cat dmesg
sh: cat: dmesg: No such file or directory
1|root@mako:/ # cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cd^C
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell
shell@mako:/ $ su
su
root@mako:/ # cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0^C
C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools>adb shell
shell@mako:/ $ su
su
root@mako:/ # cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
cat /proc/kmsg | grep wlan0
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fozzie:
Apart from your terminal being fcuked up (it's sending a double newline - Google for how to fix that), I think you should be cat'ing /proc/last_kmsg ;)

Oh and you just run 'dmesg' as a command (as root) to get its output.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] re4lsk:
thanks, will try now that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jak3z:
last_kmsg is the last reboot kernel message. dmesg just prints what's inside /proc/kmsg.

[MENTION=4386421]re4lsk[/MENTION] Your WiFi problem is only with JWR kernel? Can you try stock PA kernel? And then use flashify to flash franco kernel? Please :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] re4lsk:
only with JWR, stockPA and JSS wifi works fine. but I dont want Stock nor the jitter of JSS.

Well, I've just changed ROM now, from my first post on the issue I said that I was tired of CM, and PA was an old acquitance... guess is time to a new perspective to see what fits my needs.

Thanks for the help [MENTION=2819760]jak3z[/MENTION]

PS I've checked and aprooved some of your strings in crowd-in for FKu. I'm the spanish proofreader :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jak3z:
PA solved most of my problems over STOCK. It's strange :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] re4lsk:
I really like PA, but since there are so much good roms out here I said - I'll give those a try.

I was used to CM since version 7, and never much stranded away from it, cuz it fitted my needs, now i'll hunt down a new rom that fits them.

this is why I love android, there are a lot of good developers and work being done to make the experience better.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jacopastorius:
Im running #182 build with -125 undervolting but I cant notice any visible battery lasting improvements. Can someone report his own experience? Does undervolting worth it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] redagunners93:
I installed this kernel on the rom paranoid android, and also the application Franco kernel, but I do not save settings after reboot, why?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fozzie:
Undervolting doesn't save battery; it reduces heat.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CamoGeko:
Have you set it to apply on boot?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
On the topic of battery life: after Franco implemented his new gpu governor, I've lowered the touch boost freq to 1.2 GHz without noticeable lag and framedrops, and I'm seeing fairly big improvement on battery life. Do you think the 1.5 GHz boost is actually needed? Anyone care to test a bit and give some feedback?

PS: I'm obviously talking about interactive, forgetting that the default governor was ondemand. So the question remains for those using interactive.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] redagunners93:
yes, but it does not work .. I remember when I was with 4.2 I saved the settings and now with 4.3 no .. do not know why
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
any good settings for battery? been searching and i feel kinda lost...honestly for the first time i am lost and i am normally the one giving advice:( not been on franco for a while you see
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
Good battery life? Dont use The phone;):D;)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
:p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jacopastorius:
Are you sure about that? the less mV a cpu requires to make its operations, the less power is required: to create a 700mV electric potential difference, less energy is required than is required to make a 800mV potential difference. Correct me if I am wrong
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CamoGeko:
Try wiping the data from FKU app and rebooting.

Haha its about time we made up a battery saving guide right??

Messaged you on hangouts btw :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fozzie:
You're getting theory and its practical application mixed up.

Think of a car; if you use a lower octane fuel will you use less fuel or will you need to work the engine harder to get the same performance & therefore use more fuel? ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
I agree with you, physics dictates that less volts means less watts, and less heat is obviously less energy wasted.

The problem is it's hard to measure the effect. Even with all settings kept the same, sometimes I get 3 hours SOT, sometimes 4, sometimes 5, so whoever's saying that battery got better (or worse) with anew kernel or a different setting without long term (multiple charge cycles) testing, cannot really provide accurate information.

I guess a good test would be for someone to use airplane mode, and run a stability test continuously from a fully charged phone till the batter dies. Then do the same with an undervolt setting after fully charging the phone again. After a few trials this way, we could get some more reliable data on how much battery the undervolting achieves.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jacopastorius:
mhh..I dont think the car example fits well our cpu voltage scenario. Thinking about voltage, my minds reminds to hydraulic systems: a pump creates that potential difference between two points. the greater this potential difference is, the greater is the energy required by the pump to establish and mantain this system. Translated to cpus: my N4 cpu needs 725mV electrical potential difference to work at 384mhz. To create this potential difference a certain amount of energy is required. And the more mV are required, the more energy is required. And this energy comes from the battery
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Its not normal and I don't know the reason. Did it happen before I coded this newer algorithm or nobody cared to notice?

Thats weird, I have no issues :(

I'm recoding FKU since 3 days ago and since the new infrastructure is completely different I hope all those little ****s will be fixed. Its hard for me because I cannot reproduce :(

Not yet. r176 was cool, but it wasn't good enough for me. After r176 I re-introduced Ondemand and problems started to appear. Maybe its correlated? I use interactive as my daily governor though.

Nope. All works here. You sure your root is working?

Wi-Fi driver is stock so you must've ****ed something up in the process :(

Either you didn't applied set on boot on whatever settings you want to save or your root is derped.

Thats a good point! I'll test!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
I don't think the car analogy applies to the phone. In the car with bad gas or dirty air filter, you need to push it more, use higher rpm, etc. If that was true on the phone, the phone would use higher current to make up for any undervolting, keeping the watts (and the heat) the same. But we clearly see less heat, so less watts are used.

The thruth is, the CPU needs a certain amount of voltage for a given frequency, within a range. So for 1.5GHz you need for example 1.0 to 1.2 volts and the phone defaults somewhere in the middle. If you use higher volts, you consume more watts without increasing the performance (unless you overclock) and similarly if you undervolt you decrease the watt consumption without affecting performance, however if you go below a certain threshold, you see stability issues, the phone reboots, etc.

So I think a 10% undervolting does correlate to 10% savings in battery used by the CPU (not the screen and other components af course), so if the CPU accounts for 50% of energy consumption on the phone for heavy tasks like gaming, you would see 5% improvement in overall battery life.

So it could take you from 4 hours SOT to 4 hours and 12 minutes, not bad, right?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
To be completely off topic...

Higher octane prevents knocking (pre-ignition). Nothing else. Octane actually doesn't burn as well as heptane, so you are able to compress the fuel/air mixture more without igniting it.

tl;dr: higher octane doesn't give better performance to an engine that doesn't need it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HarbingerIV:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] I'm wondering if these multiple SU toast notifications are being caused by koush's superuser? I'm at work at the moment but, once I'm home I'll disable superuser in PA and try flashing chainfire's SuperSU to see if it solves the issue and report back. Otherwise, no other issues here.

And I'd also like to say thanks sooo much for your hard work and dedication. It's unreal how much of a difference your kernel makes for both battery life and performance. I'm looking forward to project pringles and I'll send a beer your way after it's released as I've already purchased your app and you deserve more. :p

Cheers!:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Flashed back to 183 to check and remembered FUK dosent report gpu on 183 just sits at 320 forever after boot then drops to 128 and never chang es even after plugged in so, dont no if gpu working correctly while plugged in... If theres something else u want me to try ill stay on 183 till later lemme no..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Thanak:
Can anyone tell me what throttle temperature is used? CPU or Battery?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HarbingerIV:
Stock throttle temperature for r184 is 70 degrees celsius and is for the CPU. This can be adjusted in the FKU app and even set per-app if desired.

Cheers!:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
And the battery temp is not being monitored for thermal throttling. Only the cpu.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Like I said its possible that charging produces some fake load. I'll have to debug it a little bit.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmudrick:
12 minutes in a best case scenario as most of us are not heavy gaming for 4 hours straight. And to gain that 12 minutes you've added one more complication to consider when things go haywire somewhere.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sordna:
Yep, there are risks, which is why FKU calls it "the dark side". For me I like to UV mainly because I'm worried for how hot the phone gets sometimes, and undervolting makes a noticeable difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Thanak:
I saw that stock ROM thermal throttle is 39c which probably is battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] OnlySkills:
Guys, I'm running Purity 4.3. I want the franco kernel, but don't know which one to download.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Pretty sure, but not positive, purity went hybrid and you want the jwr kernel. Should check OP and recent threads from purity kernel. Cheers.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Andre_Vitto:
Actually its can be quite fun to find out which kernel you need for which rom.. Its probably mentioned in your rom op or this kernel op.. You choose to overlook.. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] OnlySkills:
I'm downloading the r184 zip (4.3). Hopefully it's right.

Only if Purity is not an "AOSP" (I have no clue what that is).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Andre_Vitto:
You're the man..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] corwest:
Friend if you don't know what kernel to flash because you don't know what AOSP is then please stop what you are doing and teach yourself some basics first before you break something.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
The base for the future FKU was finished today, now just gotta start creating the UI as we know it but with the new base created and modular it is going to be so much easier.

Exactly, that threshold is the battery temperature.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] OnlySkills:
A Google revealed Android Open Source Project.

Anyway, I rooted my Nexus S before this and flashed many roms/kernels.

Sometimes it gets confusing, so if you can help a friend out, I'd appreciate it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Thanak:
Which mean that there are 2 throttle. One for battery which is stock and one for CPU which you have changed. Right? I'm quite confusing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shamu11:
Yo Franco,

With 4.4 so close, have any of your "friends" told you anything juicy?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] small request if possible :) in next release can you make interactive as the default cpu governor.

So I don't have to change my settings at all.

N⁴| PA3.99_RC2 |

FRANCO r184 | V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] adichandra:
yes sure, franco would love that, and make sure to request coffee maker too so the kernel can automatically make a cup of coffee for you every morning. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
good idea but i like tea!:silly: by the way request was to franco are you franco!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Wait. I can flash this on my automatic coffee maker?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Did you expect him to change this just so you wouldn't have to change to the governor you prefer? That's just not a reasonable request.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hinirang:
Franco, i did a factory reset, flashed PA 3.99 RC2 again, flashed latest gapss from PA and then flashed the Franco kernel r184 JWR but still can't backup my kernel or even save custom gamma profile.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
I saw few pages back he wrote he uses interactive as daily mode so why don't make it default.

N⁴| PA3.99_RC2 |

FRANCO r184 | V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JNewms:
It used to be the default governor, and very well could be again. It was changed because he made a lot of changes to ondemand, and wanted to get feedback so he would know where he needed to focus on that governor. For now your best bet is to just change it yourself if interactive is your preferred governor.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bar-aka:
Slimrom build 1.2 + r184 (JWR)

Don't know if anyone is interested, I managed to get slimrom working with r184. A couple of pages back I reported that I was getting random reboots with reason hw_reset, but that was on slimrom build 1. When I flashed slimrom build 1.2 (weekly) and flashed r184 (JWR), all has been well for over 24h. :)

So, if you've been having problems with slimrom/FK combo, try out version 1.2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
Maybe he tests on demand against interactive. Sounds like you do too, as do I. In fact I prefer interactive and have been using deadline as scheduler and lowered input boost as well over the last few days. The battery is lasting much longer (and screen on time is fantastic) :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Matteo Mazzu:
JWR, I'm on purity rom too ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
The stock kernel monitors the battery and the cpu. Franco's kernel is monitoring only the cpu. Not the battery.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ajack2001my:
[MENTION=470754]Franco[/MENTION]:

Will you be putting overclocking ability to the kernel again? It was available just before android 4.3 was released and now it has disappeared. Just asking your position on overclocking since if was made available before.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benbugohit:
Could you post your lowered input boost settings ? Using Trickster or franco kernel updater app ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Caniv:
well im using the newest slim rom 4.3 build 1, which of these versions should i be downloading?

thanks you!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Latest r184
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
Difference beetween Ondemand-interactive and Row-Noop-deadline? In.our Nexus 4 kernels?wich one is better and why? Thanks:)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheDemon7x:
Got a reboot while playing sandbox while downloading app.

Tried to put it in pastie.org but unable because the file is too big.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CamoGeko:
I doubt anyone is going to discuss this in depth here.

You're better off posting your own thread in Q&A and ask.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
I know,but thanks anyway...... I ask.here cause people talk about ondemand and interactiv governor with Franco(The kernel I use) and I wonder why:D:thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whitedragonz83:
Interactive has been Franco's main governor for a long time. Developed and fixed heavily by Google and himself. (Independently). Recent Nexus 7 2013 enabled features to make some new changes with ondemand. He found the changes could be applied here.

So for a few weeks we have had Ondemand as default to help fully test these changes. They dept with CPU load. Find change logs from I think r180.

Franco default settings are great. So I leave them. Also, no root so there's that... Lol.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CamoGeko:
I find that Ondemand seems to stick to high freq more, so I'm still using Interactive + ROW
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cmajetic:
for me the GPU stays at 128 MHz while charging, only when I tap on the screen it immediately goes to 400 MHz.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
With r184?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
I was using 1350 MHz but have tried different ones. I'm not actually sure it makes too much difference as I've had excellent battery life with 1512 MHz as well. I'm not a gamer so I don't tax the battery anyway. I'm using Franco kernel updater app if that makes a difference.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Goku80:
Using the same. But I use deadline
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cmajetic:
yes jwr with purity ROM. both governors.

just wanted to mention it because some posted it stays in 400 MHz the whole time.

don't know if it's normal that it goes up to 400 MHz when I touch the screen but when I don't it stays 128 MHz when charging.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benbugohit:
+1 for deadline governor, since using ROW on my former Nexus S made my device more lagging when i tested it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] whitedragonz83:
I've noticed this also. Even light usage (no gaming, slowly reading forums/etc) I'll have over 2 hours awake time at least 1.5 hrs at max CPU frequency. Amazingly, battery is still awesome, though considering screen/signal uses a ton of the battery, probably not a huge surprise.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Battery stuff is only on stock. I only watch for CPU temperature.

I dunno, it works fine with me and everybody else. My guess is that your root is ****ed which wouldnt surprise me. I have to check what did PA do with their superuser.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Not sure. It isnt really important for me at the moment.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] giebeka:
Is this kernel supporting USB OTG?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] GriffenD:
No and it probably won't be. Franco isn't a big fan of that stuff; the OP has a better explanation and I'm sure others do as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jak3z:
Does this phone support USB OTG without BLATANT hacks? No, so it won't be implemented.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] epidemic11:
Hey Franco. So I recently updated to r184 and PA 3.99 RC2 with a clean flash. Then I installed FKU among other apps. Upon opening FKU, I was surprised that my FKU detected my CPU as NOMINAL. It was SLOW before with r183 and PA 3.99. How did this happen?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lebo-Wog:
It isn't important to anyone right now, i mean who puts a turbo on a lamborghini, it just doesn't add up.....

All is good, battery is between 3 and 4 hours of sot with regular usage (both data and wifi, phone calls, loads of messages, browsing, and little gaming ).

Thanks for everything mate.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
Anyone here issues with fifa 2014 getting fc's? Is it a know issue.

N⁴| PA3.99_RC2 |

FRANCO r184 | V4A
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Pipusz:
Nope, running flawlessly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
Don't know not running for me.will try to redownload.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
Have you tried

dmesg | grep PVS

If that returns Nominal, then RC2 fixed it. I'm using a different ROM and my formerly Nominal CPU is still reported as Slow.

Edit: hmmm...the code above is now returning Nominal for me, but fKu still says Slow...? Cataclysm Sep 07 2013, franco kernel r184 JWR, fKu 10.3.3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lebo-Wog:
Yes had it here....

Uninstall it, reboot, and reinstall, it worked like a sharme with me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheQuarterMile:
I think my phone runs hotter on Franco kernel compared to stock PA kernel... Any explanation behind this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Aliens.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] handols:
How to install fifa 2014 on N4? I thought its for tablets only. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CamoGeko:
With AK47's.

Tablets only, where did you get that from??

I downloaded and installed it perfectly fine on my N4 this morning.

PS. I'm running Cataclysm + Franco.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pitjago74:
Franco....less paddel and more «Milenstone4»:D:D:D

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] maufega:
True, true, hehehe

Large Franco, by far the best kernel

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] handols:
I tried downloading the game yesterday and it says that my device is not supported. Will try later after work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cmajetic:
here FKU and terminal both say fastest so it's identical information

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
FKU is dumb :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jmudrick:
Well in my opinion too many FCs reported here to be considered milestone. I had zero on Franco kernels til this releae (so had logging off) and had two FCs with R184 on Cataclysm which has never had problems up to this release. For now back to R183 and 6 hrs SOT/19 on, no problems. Sorry about the logs Chief.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Nocturnal86:
Question for Paranoid Android and franco kernel users

Paranoid Android ROM users do you guys have any issues at all when installing franco's kernels? like force closes or anything the "breaks" Im thinking of trying out PA for the first time cause Ive been stock and kinda want to change things up a bit but my worry is that ill have issues people experience when not using just stock ROM. (Which seems to be the major reason people have issues?) Thanks for any help or insight :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] turkobr:
Everything ok here. The only thing you have to do is download and flash jwr version manually since fku is downloading jss version.

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