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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] brodern:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

I know if can find out these settings by clearing the data, but then I would lose all of my color profiles right?

So if you miasmic, if your have the default on, please give me some information?

Could you please say if anything has changed in the governor control settings? And default sampling rate is still 10 right?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
you're not going to lose any color profiles anymore since 8.8.2 since they are now saved on the sdcard while you are clearing app data ;)

i didnt care about governor controls but based on my very least memory, they are the same for a few nightlies

for hotplug controls im sure about that 400-250-100 while sampling rate = 10 and sampling timer = 30 is the newest default at the moment :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] brodern:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Oh, I thought the profiles would get wiped anyways if you used the clear data option, thanks a lot. I will clear settings now then :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] halluci293:
I like the new ui a lot :good:

Maybe you can add back the original color bars test image to the list of calibration images though? That one is useful for adjusting rgb saturation.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] brodern:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Yep, I agree. Those bars were nice because it gave you an idea on how the colors look. I don't really care about if my gamma is close to 2.2, I want my colors to look good according to my eyes. And the black/white level is hard to see, to small imho. I use visceralphyces image instead.

But if everybody else wants the new pictures, fine. I have a screenshot of the bars saved anyways :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Having no f/c's on r90 Test when changing governers, to clarify interactive is currently default?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] penzoilguy:
Hi Miasmic...where does sampling timer locate at? is it you talking about under governor control > timer_rate = 30000??

btw im on r90test with 8.8.3 + stock ROM..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Sampling timer is located in hotplug settings.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] penzoilguy:
u sure? i can only see under Hotplug Control =

Core Management Mode,

Online all cores threshold,

Online a single core threshold,

Offline a single core threshold,

Sampling Rate

that's all I can see/visible there even though I try to scroll up/down :eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] roilosh11:
Hey first of all great work on this kernel, it's very fast .

I have been on this kernel since r56 and now I'm on r90 and my battery life isn't that great. I tried to factory reset, reflash CM10.1 and the kernel a couple of times, and my SOT doesn't pass the 3 hour mark. My battery drops from 100% to 85% in 3 hours of stand by and 10 min of SOT. I also downloaded BBS and I don't see any app that can cause this annoying battery life.

I don't know if this problem is related to the kernel but I'm pretty depressed. If anyone can help me figure out the problem I'll be very great-full.

And again thanks franco for the kernel :)

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KyraOfFire:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Facebook sync? I see facebook uses 22% of the battery right there. And it is not kernel related, it never does here.

Sent from my Nexus 4 in a Faraday cage
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
Are the screenshot based on Wifi? 3G data or mixed?

It is actually very difficult to determine if you are having good or bad battery life if you are having mixed Wifi and 3G data because they vary a lot

For example a 8 hours standby with 2 hours+ screen on time with 30% left is actually very good to me if you are on 3G data ONLY. But it is not too good if they are on Wifi. So I suggest you to either stay on Wifi or stay on 3G data in order to determine the performance of battery life. I just had 8 hours standby with 2.5 hours screen on and it was my top performance so far on 3G data. Mind you, I also noticed that your mobile carrier performance affect your battery life a lot too.

Then again, as you can see Facebook app drained most of your battery in your screenshot so you know it's the main culprit for this battery cycle.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] roilosh11:
Thanks for the answer!

I understand that facebook can use a lot of battery but even on days that I'm barely on the phone, my phone doesn't last the day. I see people that their stand by times are 1 day 12 hours and I can barely get 15 hours. :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Anyone notice that the gamma numbers in the app sometimes doesn't reflect what the actual gamma settings are?

For example I can change the gamma settings via a taker app I made, and when I look at the gamma numbers in Franco's app it shows the incorrect numbers
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] roilosh11:
Unfortunately, it's mainly on WIFI. But here is my question, every day when I unplug the charger, my battery drops pretty quick on stand by(100 to 85 in only 3 hours of stand by and very little SOT), do you think that is normal?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Whosdaman:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Someone on the first page of this thread should save all the links to the posts with the most popular custom settings.

Color calibration per screen rev, custom voltage, frequencies, etc. Literally everything that can be changed. Most of us, like me, have no idea what we are doing. But just want to get the best performance out of our phone period.

And yes, I know, just install the kernel and let it be. And there is no doubt, Franco kernel is the best. But, I'm tired off searching through for the best tweaks. I want to actually get some use out of this app :P

Someone wanna help us out?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
no i never talked about governor controls

sampling timer is a hidden hotplug option at /sys/module/auto_hotplug/parameters

it will not set on boot unless you make a script for it

this is franco's explanation on sampling_timer, enjoy :) (while on r82 he made it 10, its 30 on r90 now.)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38094655#post38094655

yes, interactive is the default. i didnt test it personally but i interpret franco's message as "on r90test you will face problems if you change to non-interactive governor and press governor controls" instead of simply changing it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dan53:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Do you have GPS on? If its off Facebook will continue to search for you until you turn GPS on. Even when you're not using the app
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
I am getting much better performance with the cm10.1 stock kernal compared to r90 (no settings changed) both with interactive governor. is there something I'm missing? cm10.1 nightly 2/24
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
again your SOT could affect your battery greatly. e.g. 10 min screen on time based on Ingress could have eaten up 10% of your battery whereas 10 min of screen on time without doing anything at all could be 2% 4% etc.

In order to have a meaningful comparison, i suggest you to leave the phone idle once your charge up to 100% and leave it there for a couple of hours (maybe 3?) and see how much the battery is drained, based on 1) wifi, 2) 3G data. And then come back and ask if they are reasonable or not.

my personal record on 3G data (same location), idle for 7 hours (while i sleep), everything sync'ed except location settings, is 12% drain. I haven't tried Wifi idle but many report that it's only a few % even for 7 hours.

if you are facing unreasonable battery drain, you have to start testing it systematically and identify the culprits.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] penzoilguy:
oh my...silly me...I really missed about that...thanks Miasmic :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Did did you measure the "better performance" exactly?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
I started to notice lag immediately after flashing and I score about 2000 less on antutu (not that it actually matters).

I see big frame rate drops when pressing the multitask button. It is perfectly smooth on stock cm10.1 kernel.

stock antutu score: 20300

Franco score: 18247
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
I just install Xylon 23feb and:

Stock Kernel 11k ( gov- performance and max cpu to 1.5)

Franck Kernel 12k ( quad core, gov - performance and cpu up to 1.5 )

Not sure how did you achieved those numbers.

Back on CM 10.1 24feb

Stock 16k

Franco test r90 18k
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

They probably have better signal reception where they are. 3g + bad reception = goodbye good battery life.

You should start a thread in q&a if still necessary, this doesn't have much to do with the kernel. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
r90?

Then your phone doesn't like Franco, use CM kernel instead.

@Miasmic

Have you tested the difference between r90/r90-test with your gaming tests?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
i did testings step by step

on 3G data connection first.

you can take a look at my testings and see if it helps

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2155461

ok enough Off topics
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] roilosh11:
I now turned it off, maybe that was the source for the battery drain :), thanks.

OK I will try to do that :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zainiak:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Is there a technical explanation? Or a workaround?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Well one could be that the (CM) Stock kernel is almost always at 1026Mhz min, while Franco is at 380Mhz Min and ramps up to 1.5Ghz on screen touch/swype,

You could try to set 1Ghz as min frequency on Franco and see how that goes... (say goodbye to your battery then :))
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] steviewevie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Did you limit the values you used to the ones used by Franco's app, i.e. the valid values, max of 119, or did you just use anything from 0 to 255? Because if it's the latter, that's the problem.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hanny:
nope, not quite free these days for detailed tests, but i think what affect fps the most would be the GPU and the hotplugging behaviors (whether they are too conservative). based on my latest fps test on only r90test comparing with previous versions, i would give the credit of fps improvement to the new GPU driver (considering my control variables, parts about cpu is neglected). im not sure whether the new cpu frequency layer patches would have a great impact on gaming. if franco says it is worth a [gaming] test, i may squeeze some time for it, or else i would compare r90 (nightly) with the new cpu patches when they are out of testing period in order to observe as much contrast as possible :)

anyhow, i've done some short tests as well, and im surprised by the fact that while throttling in GTA (1026 is used), the 3rd and 4th cores continuously stayed online even at sampling_rate 10 + sampling_timer 30. not sure of the reason (cleaned up hotplugging driver?) but thats very cool as they go offline in the past if i dont increase the sampling_rate to 40. however sampling_rate 10 has made non-throttling experience in GTA a bit hotplug-conservative hence making the FPS similar to what we can achieve in throttling. (still an acceptable 23+ on the busy road) because when 1512 is in use, they handle the load and the 3th and 4th cores apparently goes to rest at most of the time.

i would call that a proper balance of power and battery/temperature while using hotplugging to play games (i believe balance is the ultimate target and nature of hotplgging), using 4 cores while throttling and 2 cores while non-throttling - and achieving a similar result in performance. why my tone seems satisfied (yeah i use the default hotplugging controls now, not increasing sampling rate to 40 anymore) is because - some nightlies ago i was unsatisfied of [only 2 cores are used even when throttling] which produced serious stutters - and it was an imbalance!

if we need the hotplugging to smartly nicely work with both [balance during normal usage] + [near full power during heavy gaming], without GPU stress information, theres still a hell lot of work. im still in the process of thinking about whether we should still strive for that or not, as the number of heavy games which actually are not smooth enough while hotplugging is currently countable by fingers, and why wouldn't one switch to quad core mode for full power? (this has flaws at the moment though, as quad core mode still requires screen off/on to be set properly therefore we cant use tasker for a smooth auto-switch experience) whatever, lets see how the development goes and interesting things for me to test :D

tonight i was thinking when to post these bull****s in my mind and thanks for giving me a chance to type them out, lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] CrimsonSmear:
Give this thread by Kel Ghu a shot for color calibration.

The rest, outside what is default, is personal opinion based on individual usage pattern and environmental circumstances.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Whosdaman:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Yeah, I've been looking through that thread for the past hour now lol. Thank you though
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
U can't get " stock" colors , they r diffrent read changelog from R14 and ull c y ...

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Not seeing that here , relash ROM and kernel back to back from same flash , do a cache and dalvik wipe before or after ...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] resynx:
Battery life is still phenomenal, loving the latest kernels!! ^_^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Today is a glorious day.. I have officially after years of crummy service since 2007 finally rid myself of Sprint... My Nexus S 4G is having its jersey retired tonight and I'm the proud owner of a Nexus 4 now on Tmobile. Sorry, it was either the Franco or Trinity thread for my first Nexus 4 post.. I choose Franco's thread. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
You made a wise choice if not ...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] styckx:
Thanks. I already am more than happy. Sprints unlimited was great..... If you were into the whole slower than dialup 3G speeds thing. Then the 4G coverage that you had a better chance of finding a wifi hotspot..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I still use a tasker app made by member here for starting point for gamma , and it changes colors but don't change numbers in app till I toggle screen on off ... Sure u have tried this but if u haven't .....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jak3z:
Why 90% of your posts contain non-sense meme ****?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
So far R91 seems to be the best for video performance, since r72 i had only 42 -45 fps in Epic Citadel, today i manage 58.7 fps a real boost.

Also try on my brother phone HTC ONE X ( standard Kernel ) and only 42.5 FPS
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yeah the new icons are great! Ups, seems like I forgot to remove the dividers on the voltage menu. And that gamma thing yes, I'm gonna take care of that.

Facebook app is ****ing your battery. Get rid of it if you want better battery life. If you love the app you just have to live with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

I have the Facebook app and it doesn't do that much to me .. I still get 4-5 hours screen on .... Make sure its not looking for GPS that's when it can spank you
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wathefak:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

So is it better if we clear app data every time there's an update? Because the last time I update, I didn't notice the default values have changed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
To be 100% sure uninstall, reboot and install the new version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gotjazz:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Sorry to get so far OT but I'd love to try the newest kernel. I'm just not sure which rom to try it on. Aokp, pa, cm etc. are all a bit too much for me.

Usually I use primerunner or rbj but they are both still on 4.2.1 and I while I like it minimal pure stock is a bit too bland....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Or just "greenify" it :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Nobody is gonna pick a rom for you. Flash whatever you like the most and then flash the kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gotjazz:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Sure. I was merely a asking for suggestions seeing as my favourite roms are on an older base still and most others i find seem to be feature-filled to a degree that's too much for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Fasho man, thank you. Others tend to forget how hard kernel Devs work. :)

Then remember they eat meals, need sleep, if they can find it.

Glad we're on the same page of issue resolving.

Let the debugging begin! :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Team eos might by an option for ya. They have a nexus 4 build hiding in their goo folder on goo.im. I'd PM you my personal build but I might get scolded. Its got a good amount of tweaks and is 4.2.2. :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Do you want custom ROMs that are:

1. Very close to stock

2. Close to stock but has some new customizations

3. Not close to stock and lots of new customizations.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gotjazz:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Thanks - I'll have a look

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2 please. With rice :) something along the lines of rasbeanjelly or primerunner
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vanhoud:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Oh yeah that's probably it, thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Eos will be your best bet. It next to rasbean is the only ROM I've used and be bull free..

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Roxxas049:
I'm ready to take off the stock rom "water wings" too and the Team eos rom sounds as good as any for me too. Where would I find the rom, or rather which rom on goo is the correct one since I've already been looking?

I see mysterious, PA, asylum and cm10.1 for mako.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rocklee80:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Fantastic display screen on time in r90 test. Was More than 6 hours on 3g mobile network.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

This is the most recent so I assume its 4.2.2.

http://goo.im/devs/teameos/roms/eos4/nightlies/mako/EOS-mako-20130221-2.zip

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlear3:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Do they have a thread or something that lists the features? Searched eos the couldnt find anything.

Nexus 4

Cyanogenmod nightlies

Faux kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Give MiNCO a try.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Like I said they don't have a thread yet for mako. We are actually currently working on redoing the OP's of all our devices. If you or anyone else wants more info please PM me so we can keep this on the topic of Franco's kernel ;).

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zoym:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

r90 on 4.2.2 stock. very smooth with fantastic battery life.

ive got over 6 hours screen on time in one day standby, on wifi with 2g signal.

really appreciate franco's hard work.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B37xpN3Rv_Y-WGQwSWhUaHprLTQ/edit

a little bit surprised, just got a random reboot, which was the 1st time in past a couple of weeks. i was using chrome when it happened.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

What theme is this . I want !
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ste1164:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Thank you Franco for all your hard work with this kernel :D it is fantastic! Been running it on my nexus 4 since day 1 :).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Got a random reboot but lastkmsg claims I told it to reboot.. I'll upload file when I'm home, but it was in pocket and likely a ROM problem
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bradm23:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

R90 has been simply amazing so far. So fast and smooth, has that milestone feel...:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Darkuso:
Where do you enable or disable the fast charge? I think that i have it running because after flash r90, charge a lot faster, i tried to find it but i could not. :confused:

Edit: nevermind, found it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] italia0101:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

I agree .. Not only that. { I know it doesn't matter but still} benchmarks are higher than it has been on Franco :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
[KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Hmm interactive governor or ondemand? R90 or the test one?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Interactive, r90, I was downloading something with screen off and phone in pocket
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thebryceee:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Battery life is fantastic so far on r90. This is with mostly WiFi but I watched 33 minutes of a movie on Netflix on HSPA+ 42.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
[KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Yeah I think there is a concurrency problem with interactive timer_rate for a while. Mr. Todd is on vacation at the moment but I already told him what I think it is. The thing is that they havent been focusing interactive to work flawlessly on chips with cpus being hotplugged, he told me so in one of his emails. I will pursue this with him as best as possible. I might be wrong though, but I havent seen these problems with ondemand. Nevertheless interactive in the test kernel might be working fine since there were a lot of patches for hotplugging awareness in the cpufreq layer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Awesome sounds good :) while on the subject of interactive vs ondemand, what's your reason for preferring to work on and tweak interactive rather than what Google is focused on?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

R90-test is the ****. Can't stop playing with the thing. Love this battery life!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
[KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r90

Hmm. I prefer interactive in this chip because I think its more battery conservative and it has a big tweaking curve. I might try Ondemand + boostpulse one of this days like I have on Manta.