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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ansysic:
What APP are you using?

I assume not franco's? System Tuner reboots for me as well. Trickster Mod also isn't working as expected.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
With r61 I got 2 days and 10 hours of battery life, with 4h 50 min screen-on time. :)

This morning I flashed r62 and after 2 hours I'm still at 100%, so it definitely seems promising.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deltatux:
r61 is very smooth and usable on interactive for me here. Oddly r61 is working better for me than r62. Could be my usage scenario. I mainly only surf the web, use Facebook, Twitter, SMS and voice calls on my phones. Not really a mobile gamer, I do my gaming at home or on my tablet.

Seems like this problem is rather sporadic eh?

deltatux
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] schizophrenia:
found a way to reproduce the problem

So only 2 cores were working after reflashing r62

however, 4 cores would go online whenever i change the governor to "Conservative" (using franco kernal updater) and they will stay online even if I go back to "Interactive"

Not sure if it's like that for others but it sure is for me. tried 3 times already

no big deal for me as I will just stick with Interactive then
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yeah. The Krait cores are asyncronous, so each core can have its own governor so to make sure all cores run the same gov I have to online them all and set the governor. However if you screen off/on the cores will be back to its normal behaviour - I just tested it on my device.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trailblazerz11:
Using r62 for 3 hours now very satisfied. If franco didn't say 2 cores and I didn't check. I honestly wouldn't notice when doing most tasks like whatsapp, browsing etc.

maybe Quad core krait really was over-kill heh, but I guess it would be needed for more intensive tasks but for my usage 2 cores is smooth.

And my battery has been amazing,

85% with 1 hour screen on, On track for 5 hours+ screen on time ( I was always jealous of anyone with 4-5 hours, only get 3 hours before)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ansysic:
Now you know why ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrxd:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Even tapatalk is responsive with the latest test build.... 2 thumbs up :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

BTW, i started using ondemand with r62... It's quite good with the battery! Surprisingly good!

Going to leave it ondemand for 24 hours and report... Maybe that's the new way to go for me? LOL!

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4

ROM: MINCO V6

Kernel: Franco r62

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Don't remember what I read so far, head's buzzing: flash and leave or change something for testing purposes..?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Confirmed. r62 is most definitely snappier in many areas. I'm not experiencing any jitters on xda or Google Music either. How amazing would it be to have a dual core N4. Haha... But seriously, Franco - you should create a dual-quad adjustable threshold within your app, so that our devices only jump to a 'quad logic' when the load is high enough that there's a need for quad cores.

I have no idea what I'm talking about. Does it show? Haha.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kazliux:
Hi, on r62. No more lag on scrolling over widgets. Good!

But what's the point to have 4 cores inside, but always use only 2? They will never be online as I understand? So same performance event on huge loads with 2 cores as it would be with 4?

Let's not loose the performance of s4 board instead of gaining 1 hour more battery!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
TEST build
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

What he said. It's a experiment to see battery Vs 4 core
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] omvir:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Its francos new plan... He has explained it already. So basically he's just deliberately trying to make our phones slower so we can be on par with iPhone's

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kazliux:
I understand it. But I mean it's de facto that 2 cores will consume less battery, but what about performance :)

Anyway - N4 is fast with 2 cores as hell :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] trueblueram:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Intel had an interesting take on this issue. They said android is not yet optimized to fully use even a single core. This was said at the launch of the first Intel powered phone
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Hrithan2020:
Nice one!!

@All,

By the way, would be very interesting to see, the effect on battery. Most of the cases, it seems that only 2 and at most another one [@480 Mhz] is online, during my testing [ of motley admittedly but still] even when playing games such as temple run 2 and nfs mw.

So curious whether it'll improve battery much. I haven't tested properly with 2 vs 4, so can't say for sure, but seems like 1 hr screen on difference at max for me. Interested to hear from others though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

So you guys are saying our phone performs better as a dual core than as quad? Better batterylife AND better performance? There's got to be something fishy here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Anytime1157:
Wow like seriously? Running the latest build #62 and all the while I thought I was running all 4 cores!

Have to do some test though to check out the battery life ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jdmcivic:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

so am i right to say that r62 will be locked on 2 cores only? the other 2 cores will nvr kick in even on heavy loads? it has been noticed on other kernels too that 2 cores is way smoother than 4.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Haha hahaha! Good one dude!

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4

ROM: MINCO V6

Kernel: Franco r62

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rachid59860:
No problem, thanks a lot for your great work

:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wera750:
What block is the boot.img so I can flash with terminal?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p6
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PoloB12:
It sure does indeed, congrats for this great first N4 custom kernel :
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] goldfingerfif:
I flashed your Kernel for the Nexus 4. It worked flawlessly. Would you mind if I included it in any ROM releases?

Also would you mind if I made and uploaded a CWM zip for your Kernel?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Please do not make a .zip. You can include it if you want in your rom, but this is mostly config tweaks, I've done 0 code changes.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] goldfingerfif:
Thanks, I understand but I do like your work from the Galaxy Nexus and wanted to show my support from the start.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Simer03:
booted up just fine!! thanks man!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
kernel is freaking nice so far. i can feel the efficiency :silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Are you using it on the stock Rom?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Can someone go to /proc and get me config.gz please? I accidentally removed mine and I need that one thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hospital349:
franco!

I'm so glad you're on this already... I knew it wouldn't take you long before you got in on the game!

Flashing right away. :good:

Many thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kn100:
Geekbench score stock: 2056

With this kernel: 2026

Sunspider AOSP browser

Stock score: 1520ms

With this kernel: 1420ms

However the device FEELS smoother!

Franco https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0icHLlFCIGtUkVYY29DSmdabFE Enjoy
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] madj42:
Here you go.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] barondebxl:
Which proves that benchmarks are for chumps
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
Thanks for this Franco - just flashed :D Hope you get your N4 soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Less 100ms in Sunspider is a very nice improvement to be honest.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Me too. I asked in the company to get me one from Google, but I'm not sure if that will happen so soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cpom1:
Yup.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
Google should hand it out to you with enthusiasm for your contribution to Nexus devices! They probably haven't got one... there's a shortage you know ;)

Looking forward to a long thread here and a succession of kernels, each better than the last!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rafase282:
Question, for r13 do we need to use echo 1 > /sys/module/msm_otg/parameters/fast_charge to activate fast charge or is it activated by default?

Also does this kernel has otg support? if so, which app can I use to mount my drives and so?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ragnarokx:
You can download Franco's display color app and change it manually if you wish.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jc monkeyballs:
I tried to install your paid app and I was getting an error in the Play Store. Now I have 3 pending charges, and Play Store still says I don't own the app. No option to refund...this sucks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sona911:
Same issue with the color control application. Card charged but I don't own the application. Maybe a problem with play store.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Treatcon:
Happened to me as well, but I got emails for refund and now everything is straight and the app auto download to my phone about an hour ago :cyclops:

I uninstalled PlayStore, cleared cache and all sorts of measures to try and fix it. Eventually I marked it up as problems with Google and I was right.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ssauger:
Same happened me 10 mins ago. I purchased via webbrowser and clicked install, nothing, On the phone i purchased again and got install error. On my kredit card i can see its paid 2 times :( but install fails.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jc monkeyballs:
Thanks, I'll just hope the same happens to me soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Ensifolk:
Well, I thought of contacting Franco before re-purchasing, as long as I have my purchasing recite and everything. No worries. Hope he replies soon.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] IAmAN00bie:
No kernel has OTG support. The nexus 4 physically cannot supply the power needed. If you are looking for OTG on any kernel you will be sorely disappointed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] wsnnwa:
The playstore is being dumb, I had to rebuy it 3 times to get it. Got two refunded already and the third time I bought it I just left it there so the play store would auto download it. It took like 30mins but it did it.

I had a question and hopefully someone here knows, I am using stock ROM and installed this kernel last night. Every time I plug in a USB even for a second it resets my battery timer. Is there any way to get it to go back to what it was before? I find this rather annoying, but if it can't be changed I guess I'll live with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Postal Psycho:
I'm on the paid Franco updater app and when i click auto flash it downloads r13 but does not install it says md5 mismatch. I'm on the latest cm nightly if that matters. please help
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cchant:
try again. if it doesn't work

try again while connected to WIFI, if it doesn't work

wait..... and try again
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ssauger:
Now the purchased app is downloaded, hope google canceled the second cause i paid twice.

@franco

in your app i can set feedback for vibration, do you plan in later versions to save the current value on a reboot?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] richteralan:
Flashed your Kernel Francisco. So far so good!

Now I have to post obligatory request for "Gamma adjustment"..haha
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] cornrooster:
Getting a little lag on lock screen...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] djsaad1:
the playstore issues have nothing to do with franco, the playstore has been having issues for a couple days now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zoym:
Paid off for R13

franco:

;)really great kernel, i just paid off for the updater at the play store.

For sure, r13 was flashed through the updater, it was so fast and easy.

hope you can involve more features in the updater app, like a simply n4/n7 display control.

thanks again and happy holidays.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ibegary:
Hey Franco -

Really great Kernel, I also bought your updater app...i'm loving it.

One thing - can you buy me lunch and rub my feet?

Thank you man, love ya!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Guys I have no control over the Play Store purchases. Google is been derping lately, and they control the Play Store, not me, so I can't help.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bavilo:
What about AppCenter? Did you push the latest version already?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Yes for ****s sake how often do we have to talk about the obvious? Franco said it like 10 times by now. 62 makes your phone a dualcore. 2 cores only!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Dude, he never said that... He said 2 cores online only... I don't remember him saying he killed the other two cores... They should kick in if needed. So still 4 cores with only two online as default.

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4

ROM: MINCO V6

Kernel: Franco r62

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

The yes would have been enough there.. :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jdmcivic:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

sorry but i remember r61 had all four cores online while SCREEN is on. the previous versions had only one, and tbe 2nd would be activated on swipe.. so i tot that r62 had 2, but would load the other 2 on heavy loads.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ansysic:
here
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Exactly: "no matter what happens". so it's a dual core with 62, which is exactly what i said.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
r61-test -> 4 cores ALWAYS online no matter what happens during screen on.

r62-text -> 2 cores ONLY - NO MORE THAN 2 CORES, NO LESS THAN 2 CORES, NO CHANGES ON LOAD, HEAVY LOAD, LOW LOAD - ALWAYS online matter what happens during screen on.

Its the last time I'm repeating this - you're on your own.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] leets4uc3:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

****. 62 is fast as ****. I can't believe this. 62+xylon is the fastest thing I have ever touched.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] steviewevie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

You're joking, right?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] javacody:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

I wish people got banned for not reading...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kazliux:
How it is on stock kernel? 2 cores also?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Nope I wasn't joking... That's what I understood... And now Franco clarified it.

Franco, quick question... I'm noticing basically no difference between ondemand and interactive on regards the battery.

Reading about the governors it kinda contradicts itself... Ondemand seems smoother than interactive... But the article also mentions interactive could drain the battery more than ondemand in certain occasions... Don't quite understand.

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4

ROM: MINCO V6

Kernel: Franco r62

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Stock kernel is normal behavior and hotplugs cores based on load. Unfortunately its not very battery friendly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Test them yourself, ondemand in one battery cycle, interactive in another cycle. In the end you'll have your answer. Most of those articles are outdated based on old code. As long as you understand the mechanics you'll be able to do one governor per each cycle and then decide which one works best for you and your usage.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HKPolice:
I've played around with R53, R61 and now R62 but all of them are missing 1 feature or another. Is there a version that can do ALL of the following:

1) Undervoltable (R53 has no UV options??)

2) Able to turn off cores at idle (R61 doesn't do this, 4 active cores all the time)

3) Able to use all 4 cores when needed (R62 is limited to 2 cores max)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] shadowcaster31:
if not mistaken, both R61 and R62 will only turn on ONE (1) core when idle... assuming idle means screen off.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] steviewevie:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

No, but this is still a testing phase, what you want will almost certainly come in time.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChriKn:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

61 and 62 are meant for testing, that's why they are in test folder........

And test doesn't mean "oh test this one" in terms of trying out. It's basically so that franco can see what certain Ideas bring on larger scale.

62 is meant to have only 2 cores. It would have no reason to exist otherwise.

Read the last 10 pages, you'll understand

Edit : that, plus what shadowcaster said.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HKPolice:
What I meant was: idling with the screen on. R61 forces all 4 cores on, while R62 does idle screen on with 1 core, it doesn't use all 4 cores when usage goes up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kazliux:
And let's hope that franco will manage to release the new test build before his GF comes :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaxx24:
What govenour do you guys recomend on r62 for battery? :)

Really nice build, would never have thought it is only 2 cores.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lazinase:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

So it looks like r62 is not for me. I'll hold for the next one, probably a week later.

Wow, 1000 pages!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KingBeike:
AW: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

R62 is good but not as good as 61. 61 was better and also gives me around 5 hours screen in time.

Maybe you can put now the Option for a 2-4 core Switch ? So everyone can decide

And as i use a screen protector, i would love To see a way to increase sensitivity of the screen with your kernel

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HKPolice:
Yes I know they're for testing and I KNOW 62 was designed to only use 2 cores. I'm not complaining about that, but like I said in the original post, there doesn't seem to be a Kernel with all 3 features I specified. Maybe someone can prove me wrong?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
1 - Only r61-test or newer

2 - Thats not the point in this testing...

3 - Also not the point in this testing (r61-test has all cores online)

That doesn't help...why it isn't for you?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kazliux:
Get rid of that screen protector. Come on guys, manufacters create those beautifull screens, invent scratch resistant glasses and you put a cheap china plastic on it and loose the sensitivity and colors etc. Just be more careful with the device:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alanwyl:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Read more and you will understand. There is a flow in the discussion. If not possible just search for Franco's replies in this thread.

Turn on and off cores is expensive. So Franco decided to TEST turning on all the cores no matter what when screen is on.

R61 and r62 are two TEST builds, or say experimental builds with same logic with different number of cores online to compare battery life.

This has been repeated soooooo many times on the last 3 pages. Please do read before flashing anything, or wait for the first milestone. OP said very clearly that if you don't know what's going on, do not flash test builds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
Franco has also said all builds are test builds until the milestone build so what you say makes zero sense, just as having test builds makes zero sense.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I give up for tonight and for a few days. Keep the thread clean, be nice to each other, don't bull**** just by bull****ing, this is a development forum, not a kindergarden. And please, read some, that way everyone will be helpful.

Good night gentleman.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
If it's the first time you've heard this then you've not been here very long. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kazliux:
have a nice xda-off time:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] davemlinux:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Thx franco go relax or rest get ready to watch sun football go ravens :D:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] i860:
Just flash r62 and all core were on-line, wiped data and still all 4 core on-line, but after a reboot all ok, just 2 core now. If any one experience this problem just reboot after you flash r62. Just did a antutu with r61-15k and r62-11k not sure how this is translate in real world application. First time with r61 manage 17k...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
But all our phones are NOT the same, I regularly got 5hrs on stock, I've not read that many posts of people getting 7hrs, have you?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Fire up those cores dude! Good luck ;)

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4

ROM: MINCO V6

Kernel: Franco r62

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] albundy2010:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Franco I think its time you get a group of ten or so advanced users to test these types of kernels in the future.

The general population in the thread is not meant for such a test / discussion. Or just do it blind and don't tell the people what's in it I suppose.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] apat183:
Re: [KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r53

Is anyone getting large amounts of msm_hsic_host wakelocks again? It went away but is back after flashing r61 & r62?

Only been off charge for 30mins and it has kept device awake for 5mins.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
It went never away after Franco returned every HSIC patch to stock again, somewhere around r30-40, it was always there and will be always there until Google fixes it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Taxiback:
You won't find 10 advanced users that give reliable feedback in this thread.