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[HTC Droid DNA] thetunicakid:
Look folks I own the latest HTC phone built with an sd card. The evo lte. Having an sd card really isnt that big of a deal. The onboard sd card is much faster and i have a class 10 sandisk 32. Nothing is faster than that but onboard storage. Basically i use root explorer alot and any files not being used or accessed at that time you keep on the card anything current or needed to be flashed you keep onboard. Its almost like you have 2 sd cards not one. Now obviously the dna will not have this but a simple flash drive and adapter is the exact same thing! The only difference would be you cant run the files off the flash drive without transfering them but im not sure why you would run them off an external anyway if you had them? Onboard memory is faster anyhow? I just dont see why the fuss? Yall are mad about nothing lol. Flash drives cost about 20% more than a sd card. Relax its not a big deal. Lol

sent from my Evo 4g LTE
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
16GB isn't future proof for apps (mostly games). I wouldn't want to plug in a flash drive to play some games - that would be incredibly annoying. Other than that, I don't see it as a big deal. I also never listen to music while out though (besides car radio). I currently only use 3GB of space on my Incredible, but it also just can't handle any real games lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] thetunicakid:
They have games bigger than 16 gb lol? I dont play games really but ok.

sent from my Evo 4g LTE
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Some are over 2GB already, HD ones that inevitably come out soon will be 3-4GB. Well, the free roaming ones anyway - Angry Birds never will be. That means if only storing apps you could only have 3-4 games before running out of space. It's only 11GB free after formatting and the Jellybean/Sense etc.
[HTC Droid DNA] nkd:
I dont game on phones and never will. just got a 32gb nexus 7 so when my nephews come over they can play all the .99 cents games I bought last year. Stay away from my phone lol. I game but true joy is on big screen, xbox, pc, ps3, I really could care less about gaming on 5inch or 7inch screen where I get tired of controls after 5 mins.
[HTC Droid DNA] thetunicakid:
Man im on my phone enough as it is! The last thing I need is another addiction lol.

sent from my Evo 4g LTE
[HTC Droid DNA] AliceBToklas:
It's a big deal for me as I have >35GB of music on my 64GB card currently. I had been looking forward to looking at this phone but not any more.
[HTC Droid DNA] SkitzoFrenik:
Guess it's the limitation
[HTC Droid DNA] impala454:
With the LTE clocking in around 20-50 Mbps where I live, I'm carrying about 20 million songs with me everywhere I go ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Until Verizon inevitably takes away unlimited data. Then if you listen a lot...
[HTC Droid DNA] josh995:
People always bring up that they have like 50GB of music.

I have a ton of music too, but come on people. Do you need to carry every single song you own with you in your pocket? REALLY?

I pick a few hundred songs to put on my phone and when I get tired of it I put new ones on.
[HTC Droid DNA] hung2900:
I'm sure that not only 16GBs (11GBs usable), 8GBs (yep, 3GB usable only) storage is enough for many people who only surf webs, facebook, sometimes take some photos, listen to music a little bit and have some small apps. I think at least 50-70% smartphone owners use their device this way.

However, there are still a lot of people needing bigger storage for many purposes, and I dont know what you wanna ask. For you it's enough, and for others it's not, that is personal opinion and purpose.

Something similar that I saw in other fanboys' topics, such as when people blamed on iPhone about it's storage, close OS, small screen or just no bluetooth sharing, and many shew a ton of evidences that it's enough. The same thing with Samsung's plastic and Motorola's bootloader.
[HTC Droid DNA] Thrillhouse847:
I personally don't use my phone for games, music or movies. I use it for email, calls, texts and web-browsing (as well as for certain productivity apps). However, I can certainly see how someone looking to use their phone as an all-in-one multimedia device would not be satisfied with 16gb.

In the end, like everything else in the world, it really is just subjective and based on personal use requirements which is why there is no reason for people to bash a device for so-and-so reason or for people to bash the people doing so because, at the end of the day, there's always a group out there that will find the specs of any piece of technology adequate for their needs.
[HTC Droid DNA] impala454:
There's no way I'll ever come close to the limit listening to streaming music. To take up 4GB of data I'd have to listen to 128 Kbps streaming constantly for 69 hours. Some people might have issue with that but I know I won't. Plus I tend to use the spotify feature to download my favorite playlists to the device so it's rarely streaming anyways. Automatic sync and everything. It's a wonderful setup for music for only $10/mo.
[HTC Droid DNA] aykutkk:
thank you
[HTC Droid DNA] Thrillhouse847:
Aren't the data plans 2gb/$30 and 5gb/$50 a month? There is a big difference between streaming up to 2gb vs. 4gb.
[HTC Droid DNA] stone_phalanges:
Simple. They need access to more than 13gb of stuff. Is it really beyond your comprehension that there are people in the world that need this? I think using a flash drive with my phone is really cool but its a bit ridiculous to think it could replace the function of an SD card. You may as well ask why anyone would want more that 8gb of data on a phone or 4gb of data.

Or better yet why do you think you need more than 1gb of storage on your phone. I only use my phone for email and the internet so I can't understand why anyone in the world would need more than a gigabyte, I mean my email cache is like less than 100mb and the internet is LITERALLY on the internet so I don't need ANY storage for that. Even if i downloaded an app, that's like what, a few more mbs? What could anyone possible have on their phone that would exceed 1gb.

Your experience ≠ everyone else.
[HTC Droid DNA] impala454:
Not really to me. I track my usage and over the past six months on my Sprint EVO 4G I've averaged ~415MB per month total. That includes my spotify usage, internet, maps, searches, occasional youtube, etc. Of course I see my usage going up somewhat when I get on LTE, but not by tenfold. My original point was that the need to carry around 50GB of music is nullified (at least for me) by using something like Spotify.

My remaining question to those who insist on carrying that much music, why are you only limiting yourself to that much? I mean, I have 200GB+ on a storage drive at home. You can't carry all that around so what's the difference between 50 and 200?
[HTC Droid DNA] cbreze:
I could care less about not having an SD card, but I don't play games or store music so much less memory is needed for my use. I can completely understand those who game a lot and store music and vids needing one. My biggest concern would be getting it rooted and being able to access the hotspot hacked of course. When this can be done ill be very tempted to pick one up.
[HTC Droid DNA] jordanishere:
I was worried about the lack of storage expansion in my current device, but I soon realized I didn't need my entire music collection with me all the time.

I have a lot of music, but I just don't listen to it often enough for an SD card slot (or lack thereof) to be a deal breaker :)
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
Rather than just repeating much of what has already been said, I'll give you a real world example.

I have to keep a lot of large media files on my phone for work - documents, pictures, and videos. I also have to take tons of pictures and high def videos with my phone on pretty much a daily basis for work. I'm often out of the country, or in rural areas where coverage is weak and/or spotty, so cloud storage is out of the question for my needs quite often. A microSD card slot not only gives me more storage, but if I happen to fill up my internal memory and the card, it also gives me the option to just pop in a spare card and keep going. I don't have to worry about stopping, connecting to a computer, and transferring everything off my device in order to keep working. A microSD card also makes transferring files much easier in many situations. If I need to give a file to a co-worker out in the field, it's often quicker to pop out my microSD card, put it in his/her phone or tablet, and then transfer the file to the internal memory. No need for cables, computers, or an internet connection (and not every device has NFC capabilities), which are things that may or may not be readily available for us all the time.

At the end of the day, it's all about options. Having a microSD card slot gives the user far more options than not having one. Some users don't need those options, but that doesn't make the needs of those who do any less valid.
[HTC Droid DNA] thetunicakid:
Ive realized something. Many of you are not understanding what i meant by not needing. The game thing i understand but wtf needs that much music at one time? Lol all im saying is if you need extra storage there are plenty of options. If that dont satisfy you dont buy it.

sent from my Evo 4g LTE
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
And just because you can't think of a reason why someone would need to carry around that much music at once doesn't mean there aren't valid reasons to do it. Your definition of "not needing" might be different than someone else's. Likewise, your opinion of the lack of the microSD card slot doesn't make the opinions of others any less valid.

And you're right that there are plenty of other options, but for many, the lack of the microSD card slot in this phone is particularly disappointing because of its flagship status. It's arguably the most all-around advanced phone out right now, which is something a lot of people want (especially if they plan on keeping it for the life a two-year contract). That's why you see a lot of people complaining about it. It's a feature that many people utilize, plus it's a feature that was omitted only because Verizon wants to push people towards cloud storage and paying for higher data limits. So, it's disappointing that it's not there, and it's even more disappointing why it's not there.

You asked why people are upset about it, and they're telling you why they're upset about it. You don't have to share their perspectives, and what you need might be drastically different than what they need, but again, that doesn't make their reasons any less valid than yours.
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
At the same time, no one that says they NEED all that music on board has offered up a logical reason as to why. "Just because I should be able to" is not a logical reason. Not picking sides, just sayin'.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
Do you think there could be a hack or mod that allowed us to play a game or listen to music via the flash drive if we attached t to the phone?
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
True, but my point is that just because someone doesn't think there is a legitimate reason doesn't mean there can't be a legitimate reason. I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reason to need to carry around that much music all the time, but just because I can't think of anything doesn't mean there isn't someone who has a valid reason for it.

In the original post of this thread, the OP doesn't think there's a reason to be disappointed by the lack of a microSD card slot. It's perfectly fine for him/her to think that, but I provided what is are extremely valid reasons for me to be disappointed by the lack of a microSD card slot, including descriptions of real world situations that I'm in on a daily basis where it's extremely useful (and often necessary). So, even though I can't think of a reason to legitimately need to carry around 50+ gigs of music, I know that the needs of one person when it comes to devices like this are different from the needs of another person. I agree that the statement "just because I should be able to" doesn't provide any compelling evidence, but at the same time, I'm not going to completely dismiss the possibility that someone might have a legitimate need for it and in turn might be genuinely disappointed by the lack of the microSD card in the DNA (especially considering it's much-touted audio capabilities).

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I can listen to music and watch videos off a flash drive when it's connected to my S3 via a OTG USB cable, so I'd see no reason why the DNA can't do that. It's just a little awkward to carry around the phone with a cable and flash drive hanging out the bottom for extended periods of time. :)
[HTC Droid DNA] nrfitchett4:
So how many hours of music is it? I bet at least 30gb of it you don't even listen to on a regular basis. I have thousands of songs and don't use that much storage. I keep it all on amazon and download what I want when I want it.

then this phone is not for them. Making a 100 posts complaining about it is not going to unlock a magic micro sd card slot. Move on.

Well, then your work should be paying for your phone so you shouldn't have any problem using something else.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
You could tape or Velcro it to the back so it wont dangle but still awkward.
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
I pay for my phone, and I can be disappointed by the lack of a microSD card in any phone that I might be considering buying. The OP asked a question, and I answered it (and I answered it with an exact reason, not just by saying "because I should be able to have it"). Just because you want to come through and try to invalidate all of the answers people are giving doesn't make them any less legitimate. This is exactly what I was saying - just because one thing is true for you doesn't make it true for everyone. Additionally, no one can know all of the reasons why someone wants or needs something like this. You know nothing about me, my work, or how any of it operates, yet you still feel the need to say how things should or shouldn't be. Why? It's fine to give an opinion, but there's no reason to tell someone their opinion is wrong or that he/she should do something differently when you know nothing about the reasons behind it and are only basing things on your personal opinion with no facts.

They're all opinions based on individual needs, wants, and experiences. You have yours, I have mine, and everyone else has theirs. None of them make any of the others any less valid. I'm not sure why so many seem to have a problem with this. You think the lack of a microSD slot isn't a problem? Great. I envy that. I wish it wasn't a problem for me. But it is an issue for me, as well as for others, and there's no reason to tell others that their opinions and needs aren't valid.

Are the threads and complaints about the lack of a microSD card in the DNA all over the place and becoming annoying? Sure. But the OP asked a question about it. If you want people to stop talking about it, one way to do that is to stop bringing it up.
[HTC Droid DNA] k9cop:
Easy solution. Google Music load 20,000 songs for free. Google Drive, Box, and Dropbox for everything else.
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
That's not an easy solution for everyone. It is for some people (if not most people), but not for everyone.
[HTC Droid DNA] Mooselips:
OK, it's disappointing that it doesn't have a damn memory card slot. But still many people find it will be enough after they get over their disappointment.

If it's not enough in some rare specific situations with taking HD videos in areas with no internet service, then this phone is not an option for you. Why are you even here? You should be reading a forum for something you want that fits your needs. Or if you do want this phone with its drawback (and trust me, every phone has them), then you'll have to do other things to accommodate your needs, like connecting to a laptop.

I'm disappointed it doesn't have a memory card slot. But I like the phone, it's awesome, I preordered it and can't wait to get it Wednesday. Yeah, I want to carry everything I own in my phone, but the reality is we never can have everything we want.
[HTC Droid DNA] stone_phalanges:
Oh I get it. You think that making a post about people who are making posts about the issue will cause those who like many of the features of the phone, but not the lack of a micro sd card, to magically not care anymore. I think its time for us all to move on. I mean, I don't even like this phone I have a gs3 and I love it but you asked so I honestly thought you did't know why people need more storage.

My bad.
[HTC Droid DNA] bsweetness:
I'm here because I'm interested in learning about the phone. It's a very cool device. And in reading through the forum, I saw this thread and decided to answer the OP's question since I had a very specific reason why. I didn't start a thread complaining about the lack of a microSD slot, nor am I running through various threads whining about it. I know this device isn't for me, but that doesn't mean I can't be intrigued by it and want to read about it. I'm not going to buy 99% of the various devices out there, but I don't mind learning something about them. There's no reason to only stay in the forums for devices you own, because you can learn some interesting things by looking at other stuff.

The OP of this thread asked a specific question, so I chimed in with an example of why someone would be disappointed in the lack of a microSD card in this particular device. I also did so in a manner that didn't attempt to belittle anyone for their reasons or opinions like others have tried to. If the thread wasn't about the reasons behind the disappointment in the lack of a microSD card slot, I wouldn't have started talking about it. But that's what the entire thread is about.
[HTC Droid DNA] Spaded21:
Seriously. You can even use Google Music to download the songs to your phone for offline listening. Just only do it over WiFi.
[HTC Droid DNA] x70xchallengerx:
I believe, like others, that Verizon pushed HTC to take the micro SD out so that people have to rely more on cloud services like box and google music (and lame vzw cloud solutions) which drives up data usage, which they are making mad $$$ on... so unfortunate that great companies like (HTC, Turn10 studios, Bioware etc) get forced to kinda screw their customers because their superiors want more money... dunno if I worded that right, surely you know what I mean.
[HTC Droid DNA] NeuroXT:
Well since most people own a smartphone now, and most are on contract/plan with internet access, isn't cloud storage enough? With a decent 8/16GB phone connected to a cloud storage plus music streaming, that's already a lot for most users.
[HTC Droid DNA] u921333:
The big thing is if theybwould have added the 3 cent sd card reader it wouldnt hurt the people who dont need it. Wouldnt make phone really any heavier or thicker. So by not including it there is a set group of people that it does hurt.

I know sd cards can die but there is an added benefit and that is bricked devices we are on site for flashing roms. Say you just got a awesome vacation cruise and get on xda and what is this AOKP for the dna oh hell yeh flash and boom you relize you was in the wrong forum to late phone is a paper weight and every picture you took is now gone.

If it was on a sd card claim insurance pop sd card in new phone and boom all the great pictures of your woman in her bikini and less are all back!
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
I think we pretty much figured out that Verizon simply wants it's users to stream content rather than store it on the SD card, it's not about the additional cost on the phone.

I'll be streaming away on my unlimited data plan!
[HTC Droid DNA] chakra:
I always use today and how much is needed today and yesterday to determine what is going to happen in the future. SO when I buy a new phone I don't care if the specs are only barley up to today's needs. Even when the device has other newer specs such as the 1080 p resolution that I know will increase the size of apps that will work with the device, I still don't think about how next year an app for a 1080p screened device and full of new features will be a larger app and require more storage that the phone doesn't have so I wont be able to use the new apps designed for the new feature I love so much.

Oh wait, no I dont, I try to purchase devices that will be atleast a little future proof. Oops sorry about that
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
And yet they give us the annoying notification to turn on wifi... They don't know what they want.
[HTC Droid DNA] idkwhothatis123:
You can disable that. They have to tell you that as there are capped plans now. If they didn't, wouldn't be considered full disclosure and the 47% would as for refunds on overages.
[HTC Droid DNA] don728871:
I think the only choice lefted is bb10 its the other iOS build great and bb10 is going to have SD card slot
[HTC Droid DNA] RoboWarriorSr:
You guys are kinda forgetting that they are marketing the camera. 16 GB is getting you no where if you are a shutter bug or taking more than 5 minutes of 1080p video. And yes, with some music and apps installed, a majority of people will only have enough space for 5 minutes of video which is around 8-7 GB (assuming the video quality and usage is similar to an 16 GB iphone 4S). That's probably enough for some of xda to complain.
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Just did a quick calculation and that's 150 minutes of video at 10Mbps (with 11 GB free). That's not too shabby - at least most people won't have a problem even if they do use the camera a lot. There's always dropbox, drive, and other alternatives (the dropbox promotion really would have made more sense with the DNA than the GS3/Note2), or an app that auto loads it to a computer of yours. The only way 5 minutes of video is anywhere near that large is if it's uncompressed - and MPEG4 compressed video shouldn't take away from the quality with a phone, not to mention I doubt the ROM actually could save data that quickly to keep up. What are people recording where they would even expect quality better than bluray?
[HTC Droid DNA] newsera:
whether u use it or not, u need sd card as an insurance
[HTC Droid DNA] Mooselips:
There are rumors that there could be a slot in it, since Butterfly has it. They might have left it in there, just not advertising it. When someone does a tear down, we'll know for sure.
[HTC Droid DNA] AliceBToklas:
It's a personal choice pure & simple. I like to have my music with me. I also find myself in areas with no coverage (& no wifi) often enough to not want to depend on getting my music online.

If it wasn't for music I really wouldn't care so much.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
YES someone needs to take it apart to find out but not me because I don't want to risk anything.
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
Agreed! I don't care if it's embedded deep within the phone, just as long as I can install a 64GB MicroSD card and forget about it.
[HTC Droid DNA] Thrillhouse847:
Although 16gb is plenty for my uses this would be amazing if only to showcase the absurdity of Verizon's thought process in choosing not include access to it.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[HTC Droid DNA] impala454:
The reasoning is pretty easy and understandable, even though we all would rather have the SD card and/or removable battery. Any time you have user replaceable parts in a device like this, the support costs go up. I.e. if Suzie Q with her neato new phone can pop the cover off, bad things will happen. If Johnnie ThinksHeKnowsWhatHesDoing decides to start swapping in aftermarket batteries or SD cards that barely work, then issues will pop up that he calls on Verizon to help with. Every time Verizon is spending their precious man hours helping someone with some issue like that, they're not selling cell phone plans or making money.
[HTC Droid DNA] chakra:
You dont really believe that do you? Its about corporate profits based on a steaming / tiered data usage model pushed by the carrier. Not that stuff you said. lol