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[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
Just got this plan. Didn't even have to activate my new SIM card. Just told them I wanted this plan and they gave it to me. I was originally a prepaid customer with quite the huge balance on my account. Now I can finally have data lol.
[Nexus 4 General] tanyacruz:
House prodaten

Hi, stab244. Where did you ask for the change of plan? I had this plan but now I wanted to get back to it. THanks
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
I just called customer service and got routed to prepaid services. I was trying to activate a new SIM card but they didn't need it. Can't remember the exact number I called though...
[Nexus 4 General] mongonexus:
hey folks on tmobile $30.00 plan 100 mins unlimited text and 5gb data,im at the jersey shore in bayville area and h+ speeds are excellant, call quality seems good too.. no complaints here from a second phone for nexus purposes,, mainline right now is glaxy nexus on vzw and lte is good here in bayville too... the 30.00 plan is a killer deal for us to abuse,,lol,,steve;)
[Nexus 4 General] tanyacruz:
Are you a cast of the tv series Jersey shore?
[Nexus 4 General] Pr20:
quick question guys. My wife is on a t-mobile contract right now. We just bought the Nexus 4 with the idea to switch to this plan.

Will I be able to port her current number to the new 30$ plan? I am guessing not in which scenario the only way to keep her number would be to port it to google voice right?

Thanks a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
You'd have to get a new sim card. It's either free or 99 cents at the moment.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Pr20:
Sorry I forgot to mention the sim card is on the way. After I get it and activate it, will I be able to port her current number to the new 30$ plan? I am guessing not in which scenario the only way to keep her number would be to port it to Google voice right?
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
You should be able to port it. Just transferring it to the new sim card. You'd technically be starting a new service. When you go on the website to activate your sim, you put in your account number and pin and it should port over.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] caaznkid:
You should try talkatone, it was the best out of all the VOIP I tried. Works even on 2g. I tried spare phone, groove ip, vonage too but talkatone was the best.
[Nexus 4 General] tpboi:
just upgraded to this plan, they didnt even ask for the sim or activation #.
[Nexus 4 General] nba1341:
If your plan doesn't have late fees you can port easy but if your still under contract then wait till March 26th when t-mobile gets rid of contracts and etf/migration fees etc

Or maybe they already got rid of the migration fees part ?
[Nexus 4 General] rpstrongbad:
Hey guys, say I want to test t mobile out in my area before I port my number, can I just port my number over at any time or does it have to be at activation?
[Nexus 4 General] duclet:
You can port at any time.
[Nexus 4 General] cool_vibes:
Swapping SIMS?

So, I'm going to be buying a Nexus 4 in the coming weeks, and my activation kit just arrived in the mail today. If I activate the SIM on another phone, how easy would it be to swap the SIM to the Nexus 4 when I get it?
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
Just take it out of the old phone and put it into the nexus 4. That simple. Well unless you need to cut it down since the nexus 4 uses microSIM.
[Nexus 4 General] cool_vibes:
I'm going to have to use an adapter for the time being. Thanks for the info.
[Nexus 4 General] needabottle:
Be really, really, really careful of the little microsim to sim adapters. I destroyed an S2 with one. Pulling it out and it got caught up on the little gold fingers inside the sim reader. Like an idiot I kept pulling before I realised what was happening. Tore off one of the fingers and rendered the phone useless.
[Nexus 4 General] uToTMeH8:
Same thing happened to me...Do not do it!
[Nexus 4 General] xPurplexAnarchyx:
I always went an extra 100 minutes over haha. My speeds have been pretty decent though.
[Nexus 4 General] Pr20:
It wouldn't matter that the IMEI of the new Nexus 4 would be different (to the phone that you used to activate the sim card with)?
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
I've swapped phones several times and they don't care. Granted I've always been prepaid but yeah. The joys of using a GSM device.
[Nexus 4 General] gravewormx:
Unless the nexus has a bad imei, in which case is a no go.
[Nexus 4 General] LostMyMarbles:
Port number?

I would read and search for this question but since theres so many pages i'll be lazy.

Do I have to port my number to T-Mobil for the prepaid or can i get a new one? My recent one is on verizon and contract ends in 6 months.. rather pay 10 dollars a month instead of 80 lol...
[Nexus 4 General] iletired:
You can get a "placeholder" number from T-Mobile to test service out until your contract ends. Before your contract ends, you can then port this number over to T-Mobile. You may also want to look to see if you can get out without paying an ETF, as many places give you a credit towards this fee for each month of service completed (So you may only need to pay 10-20 ETF instead of 350+)
[Nexus 4 General] LostMyMarbles:
Great!

Thank you so much, I really appreciate the speedy response and will do what you said. You made me one happy girl :DDD
[Nexus 4 General] maigre:
Re: T-Mobile $30 Prepaid Plan Use

You can port whenever you want.
[Nexus 4 General] maigre:
As you can see, data speeds on this account in silicon valley are all over the place. The infinitesimal download speeds at the top came this afternoon in a busy, fairly good sized shopping center (not a mall) that's at one of the busier intersections in Palo Alto. Not exactly the spot where I'd have figured there to be such awful reception. There are plenty of other busy locations or places just a couple of blocks from them that are this bad or close to it. Then again, there are other places where reception is great, including where I live.
[Nexus 4 General] Riverdales27:
I ordered a microsim on the website. It's free right now and free overnight delivery. Going to test out the service for a month for my area.
[Nexus 4 General] rpstrongbad:
Yes sir it does
[Nexus 4 General] Bob Smith42:
I did this too. I ordered two at 10AM for free one day this week. They were delivered next day at 10AM. So amazing. :D
[Nexus 4 General] Riverdales27:
Yeah I received mine during lunch didn't ship out till nearly 9 last night. Didn't know I could get more then one. I can't find info on the website about not paying after the first month when my account is cancelled and loose my number and other info.
[Nexus 4 General] RayLancer:
Anyone know if T-Mobile's "Uncarrier" plans will affect this plan? Since we're not on contract, T-Mobile can do almost anything they want.
[Nexus 4 General] sixpoint1:
I've seen some people worried that this plan won't be available on the 23rd or 24th. Hope it's just a rumor because I just ordered the Nexus 4 and it should take 2 days at least.

Anyways, I've got 3 in the family looking to switch from Verizon. If nobody uses talk very much and just need the unlimited text and some data, there's no better value plan or uncarrier plan than the 3x $30 prepaid correct?
[Nexus 4 General] uEih:
Crap.. Accidentally bought a T-Mobile "Broadband" refill card.. will this still work to refill my account?
[Nexus 4 General] jpjrlive:
can i make a payment in a t mobile store?
[Nexus 4 General] tpboi:
Yes you can
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeeunix:
yep, they're all just money for the acct.
[Nexus 4 General] SilentSummer:
Luckily they didn't kill off this plan with their new "uncarrier" plans coming into play now.
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
I was just in tmo chat yesterday and one of their agents also assured me that I would not be forced to drop the $30 value plan. I didn't ask if it would still be available to new customers, but I was certainly glad to hear I'd at least be grandfathered!!
[Nexus 4 General] flight243:
The old plan is no longer listed on T-Mo website :'(

I'm coming to the US in a few days and it was going to be my plan of choice and the cheapest actually but now it's gone.

Still wondering why all US carriers have such high plan prices...
[Nexus 4 General] ja5219:
Hey everyone! New Nexus 4 user here, been with T-Mobile on the $30 plan since November '11.

I used to have the Samsung Exhibit II (Now renamed Samsung Galaxy Exhibit.. or something... lol?)

anyways, comparing in terms of Signal, my Nexus is much sensitive to a drop in signal. I know the Exhibit probably lied in what it represented as good signal (You could easily see this when using a signal app, it would indicate very low signal nearing -100dbz yet the bars up top would still show 2-3 out of 4) anyways I could still use the phone with no problem. (HSPA radio streaming would be fine)

However, on my Nexus.. as soon as I drop to 1 bar or 0 bars out of 4 in an HSPA coverage area.. all streaming/data loading stops.. It takes a few seconds to recover. Now, i've been traveling the same area with both phones now for years.. hard to believe the Nexus struggles more in areas my old phone would still work fine. (Very smooth streaming no issues using the iHeartRadio App).

Another thing, If i look up on the "About" info on my nexus.. and "Status"

The "My Phone Number" field shows "Unknown" .. yet I have a fully activated working microsim on this phone. I've already transfered my info from my regular SIM that i used on the Exhibit to this microsim. What gives? I'm still able to make calls without a problem.

All in all, im still impressed.. with the Exhibit, I would max my hspa speeds at 7mbps, now its constantly 12-21mbps in many areas.. I am impressed.
[Nexus 4 General] ninjafan:
Still wondering why all US carriers have such high plan prices...[/QUOTE]

Cause people are willing to pay it
[Nexus 4 General] sarkozy:
It costs money to build a network across a 4,000 mile country with 50 different sets of laws governing business.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Agreed. In places like the UK, the area to cover is MUCH smaller. And they have some nice cheap plans. In the USA, this plan and the Value plans are some of the best you're going to get in a MUCH larger country.
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
yeah;

USA: 3,794,101 sq mi

UK: 94,060 sq mi

USA is 40.33 times larger then the UK.
[Nexus 4 General] jimmyjoebob:
Don't forget that T-Mobile USA hardly covers any of the US with their own coverage.

It doesn't look like they're doing anything about it either. :(
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
Their new plans don't look at all good or different

Imo if they wanted to be the uncarrier they should have a base plan of say seven gbs for forty then add blocks of mins and texts

It's seems all their plans are geared to massive talkers and don't need data
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Their new plans are ridiculously good if you choose unlimited 4G data.

For example, a single person with that would be unlimited everything for $70. Same price as previous prepaid.

What I found particularly interesting is if you have 5 lines and unlimited 4G it comes out to $180/month. That $36/person for unlimited everything!

If you have a family that's great, if not get some friends and yourselves up, so that each of you are paying $36. If they don't like the service, no problem! There's still no contract ;)
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
Yes it's better for families, but here I am paying thirty for five gbs of high speed data and can't even get close to that on their newer plans.

I would love to pay more for data, but having to purchase unlimited mins to obtain that, but then I would be paying more for services like talking I just don't need
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
5GB data allowance reached for the month, but need more 4G data before monthly reset?

A little trick I discovered with this plan that I thought I'd share:

If you add the $15 hotspot add-on it seems to reset the data usage counter for the remainder of your month

So if you use up your 5GB mid-month then add the hotspot feature, it looks like you get another 5GB for the rest of the month. Then if you remove the hotspot feature immediately after adding it, while you don't get the $15 back, it keeps the hotspot feature and additional data until the end of your month at which point it resets back to the regular $30 / month plan

So if this trick works, you get a 100 minutes / 10GB per month with official hotspot for the second half of the month for $45 / month

YMMV!
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
Correct me if I am wrong, but if you get on Straight Talk with a T-Mobile sim you are paying $45 for unlimited everything, and those with T-Mobile sims haven't been reporting any issues with data caps. Granted T-Mobile's 4G on straight talk might be slightly throttled and policies might change at any time, $25/mo is a high price to pay for reassurance and the "convenience" of "post-paid." If Tracfone can afford to offer it, I am not sure why T-Mo can't.Many consumers don't want to bother searching hard for a new phone too, so if they end up paying a $20/mo installment on top of their plan, they are paying $90. Sprint is cheaper than that - not for truly unlimited minutes but most have no use for that, T-Mo's data network is much better in many cities, but the average consumer doesn't necessarily realize that, being able to choose from any unlocked GSM device is a plus, but most just want to walk into a store and be sold an iPhone or a Galaxy something without having to think much about it.

T-Mo is headed in the right direction with the subsidy/contract free movement, but but their new plans are not really different than their old plans and they still have room for improvement. A step they hopefully will take involves spotting good value unlocked GSM devices from less mainstream carriers, and stocking them in their retail stores to spur better competition amongst device makers.
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
I concur... Google & Tmo partnering and pushing a different business model similar to what is seen in Europe and Asia will hopefully change the way traditional teclos like ATT and Verizon with their subsided, contract, nick n dime plans do business.
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
thanks I wondered that myself, i used it before it didnt reset my usage, but on the wap site my data usage counter just had 3gb of unlimited used

with it off i see up to the 5gbs at 4g
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
True, but remember this plan is one of a kind and T-Mobile doesn't even promote it. I doubt they would offer something else similar in terms of price and data.

Good point. I think I am talking for myself a bit too much, as I would simply use an unlocked GSM (Nexus!) device along with the family plan rather than individual, but as a regular consumer it may be different. I don't completely trust ST's data policies, they are extremely shady and often times I have heard of people not getting their data speeds (or data AT ALL) restored the next billing cycle. I think for $70/month it is risk free and being able to screw around with the data is great. Well once again, there's that $20/month thing that other consumers may go WTF at, but eh.

The family plan is still ridiculous though, hit up a few friends and you got yourself an amazing deal. I'll stick with this $30 prepaid unless I really feel the need for more minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
Tracfone can afford it because its an mvno. They lease airtime from tmo. While tmo has to pay for certain overhead that mvnos don't (corporate stores,employees,cell site upkeep/expansion,much larger employee/call center base etc) all this stuff ads up.
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
in a perfect world;

google would own and operate T-Mobile.

how awesome would that be

(just think: the jaw dropping prices of google fiber; but for "G-Mobile" ! )
[Nexus 4 General] ehwhoknows:
Has anyone tried signing up for this as a new customer? I read somewhere this plan will be discontinued but existing subscribers will be grandfathered in. I've been saving up for a Nexus 4, would hate to see this plan be discontinued. The other alternatives are not as good.
[Nexus 4 General] aimfire72:
I signed up for this plan a few months ago, used it for a month, then went back to my AT&T sim. Read the announcement that Tmob was activating LTE in my area, so refilled the number last night, all is fine despite my account being inactive for past 4 months.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Well hello there T-Mobile LTE!
[Nexus 4 General] Tenny:
I can confirm LTE is also working here in San Jose.

What I did with CM10.1:

Went to Settings > More ... > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names > (+) (Plus Button)

Made a new APN with fast.t-mobile.com as name and APN.

Opened dialer and dial: *#*#4636#*#*

Scroll down and change GSM to LTE/GSM auto (PRL)
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
im in the bay area as well and am wondering 2 things maybe you can help me with.

1) is the LTE service literally JUST in san jose, or does it include the full bay area ?

2) im on straight-talk's tmobile plan; any idea what my APN should be to try this out ? i used the "Phone Info" app to switch to "LTE Only" but i completely lose my bars...even letting it sit for ~30 minutes, nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] Tenny:
1.Not sure how far it extends, but the LTE was strong in Milpitas. I'm at work right now in Moffett Field, and I have a little bit of LTE, but reception here is horrible always.

2. No idea really with straight talk. No experience with it.
[Nexus 4 General] alias_j:
Omg.
[Nexus 4 General] pedxing:
Hell yeah!!

LTE in in sugar land (Houston) is working. Getting about 8mb down and 6 up. This is twice what I got on Verizon in this area and about 30% faster than my hpsa+ connection.

Edit: this was with -110dbm reception.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I don't see this plan on the T-Mobile website anymore. It seems they have yanked both $30 plans. :(

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] at4r1:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans

Bottom left, its still there.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Hope this plan will still be available sometime next week when I activate my Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] farmerbb:
Click the "Which plan is right for you?" link at http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans. It's still there, just not as well advertised as the other plans.
[Nexus 4 General] pedxing:
Downtown Houston is getting awesome speeds right now on lte. Best part is that if you can't get LTE due to the building you're in it falls back to h+.

Man this phone has a lot of radios!!!
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
For $30/month, I am more than happy with these speeds! Anyone try using Google Voice/Groove IP over LTE? Does it work better?
[Nexus 4 General] tvdang7:
Houston has lte?
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
The average user only needs 3 mbits. That's why LTE is so overrated
[Nexus 4 General] cphancock1:
You have to purchase at walmart to get this plan. Im not sure if you can just buy a micro sim from them and set up the plan. What i did was buy the cheapest phone at walmart $30 then take it home and follow the instructions to activate it online. Select the 5gb $30 plan online. I suggest not buying the renewal card at walmart, just pay online its faster. Then get a free micro sim or $ 1 i think from tmobile.com and call to have your account switched to that sim.

If anyone has just bought a micro sim from walmart and done this let us know, or an easier way. Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] ksumanth:
Ok I made a couple of trips each to the T mobile and the Walmart store trying to get the right answers. so here is what I found out.

1) the best option we have is to order the Sim online as mentioned earlier in this thread for 99cents and activate it online with the 30$ plan.

2) Since I am on vacation and travelling I did not want to wait to go back for the SIM to ship home. So I walk into a T- Mobile store and they charge me 20$ for a SIM alone, but If you bought any accesary I can put my 20$ towards that and the SIM technically become free and anything above the 20$ I will have to pay extra. So for a car dock worth $30 I got the dock and the SIM.

But the sales person did not tell me that I have to buy the acitation key directly which I had to go back for and was told is another $10. I was not happy with the servie and returned back both the accessoies and the SIM card.

Next I went to Walmart, they do not sell the activation kit that is available online but we can buy the cheapest pre paid phone with the 30$ plan which is $30 and activate it and flip the SIM to the new phone or replace that with a micro SIM.

So finally decided to order it online and wait to return home. Hope this helps.
[Nexus 4 General] cphancock1:
Thanks i didn't know you could order a sim online and ge this plan. Ive had this for a few months on my galaxy note, just switched it to a micro sim for the n4
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Wrong. You don't have to purchase at walmart. I made 0 trips to walmart but am on this plan. You can do everything online.

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Are you using GV/Google Chat calling with cSipSimple? If so, in what ways is cSipSimple better than SipDroid? Can you be specific about call quality/battery/Android integration?

Can you also comment to this post who claims sipdroid is better? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34343903&postcount=8
[Nexus 4 General] PATRICKismyHERO:
Thanks for the reply guys.
[Nexus 4 General] slyd0997:
Sorry if this was answered before - when you are on 3g and make a call using vonage does it use minutes or data?

Great thread BTW. Good info.
[Nexus 4 General] bit1:
So, I'm waiting for the N4 to restock before really digging into these threads but just wanted to say to those thinking of this plan, it's the best deal in mobile to me. I use the Vonage app along with Google Voice and can talk hundreds of minutes no problem. Vonage calls don't count as they're data. Vonage just puts in whatever you want for caller ID but calls go through them not T-Mobile. I do live in a pretty good t mobile area I guess though. At home the Vonage app over Wifi is clearer than typical POTS and on the road I've yet to have someone complain to me. Worst I've gotten is someone sounds static like as if they were on a cell phone but I'm not sure if that's the Vonage app or not.

For those who want to use Google Voice just download any voip, I used Grooveip and enter your Google Voice credentials. Then set up Vonage and enter your Google Voice . Request it to call you (you'll request first an sms but won't get it)and answer the call on Grooveip and take note of the six digit code.enter that into Vonage app and you're good to go. Prior posters were correct in that you can enter any number you want into the Vonage app if you can answer it. Grooveip is a great app for some but the echo kills it for me. Also,I love the flexibility of typing texts at work through the Google Voice website and not being the idiot trying to text under his desk so it looks like he never works. Plus, to me the Google Voice app is the best for texting since it's integrated. Yes, I'm a fanboy :) aren't we all?
[Nexus 4 General] armandosal:
Google voice is great but the lack of MMS kind of kills it for me. Don't get me wrong I use it all the time but I can't use it as text replacement yet
[Nexus 4 General] bit1:
I've read this before. I get MMS all the time but they show up in my GMail account. I have Google Voice to forward to Gtalk . Could that be why? I never thought to question it.

Well,I get pictures and videos. They say sms from my contact, then they have an attachment of a picture or video. They're only forwarded when they have a picture or video though. Otherwise they always go to Google Voice. Is MMS something different?
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Do you have a Sprint plan? Last time I checked that option was only available on Sprint.

MMS is different, the pic goes directly to the texting app, and dumbphones can also receive them. But they are very low resolution. Personally, I just use Viber or Whatsapp, even just email.
[Nexus 4 General] bit1:
No,I have this plan on T-Mobile. The resolution I get depends on what phone seems it.
[Nexus 4 General] doodoostains:
You can only receive MMS on Google voice from Sprint users. It will forward to your gmail.