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[Nexus 4 General] chancy319:
Just abandon the contract. That's bullsh*t he would do such a thing without your consent.

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That's the thing. I don't leave it on. Besides, it's pointless to since you can't receive calls on the random Skype number. If you want to receive calls on your Skype number, you have to purchase a number. I just receive calls to ring on my regular line and call them back with Skype. I know it's a little cumbersome but the voice quality alone is enough to make me use Skype. Talkatone, Groove IP etc while free have poor voice quality even on Wi-Fi! It became embarrassing with people constantly complaining about my voice dropping off. $30 plus the additional $3 is still pretty low.

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It is free but the apps that tether to it (Talkatone, Groove IP etc) have horrible voice quality on Wi-Fi or mobile network.
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Hey bro .. Did you switch from post paid to prepaid ?? I am on att contract till 2014 .. Done my calculations , i need to pay 250$ ETF and my only concern is signal
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
1. If you are using skype just to make outbound calls, you are better off with Vonage Mobile app. It's free and the call quality is one of the best even on 3g.

2. You haven't tried all solutions. There are free alternatives that offer excellent call quality and low latency on mobile network. It's totally free but you will have to invest your time to learn it. Check out my signature.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Heads up to those using the Vonage app. Today or maybe yesterday it started draining battery considerably on my Nexus 4 and my Galaxy Exhibit 4g. It could be related to the recent update and it may not always happen but just keep an eye on it in the meantime.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
sorry here are the other screenshots. The drain by Vonage is the last uniform slope you see on the screenshot on my post above. The phone was idling. I stopped the app when the horizontal line begins again.
[Nexus 4 General] errorcod3:
Tether question:

Use a pptp vpn and tether will be no problem. t-mo seems to be snooping on user agents to determine if you are using a non-mobile device. VPN will prevent this.
[Nexus 4 General] joey3002:
For those of you using Google voice.how does the texting work with the stock sms client? What about mms?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] kcchen:
So native wi-fi hotspot feature of android works, but you need to establish a VPN tunnel from the laptop or tablet?
[Nexus 4 General] rich2k4:
Hey guys, what is the best way to make outgoing voip calls only?

I figured the best way to use my phone would be to use voip for outgoing calls. If I am home, and someone calls me, i'd answer the call in GTalk since I am near a computer most of the time anyways. If I am not near a computer and am out somewhere, and get an incoming call, i'd just use my 100 carrier minutes (it's rare that someone will call, I usually do most of the calling)

Right now from my research it looks like Vonage would be the simplest option. It doesn't integrate with the native dialer, so I can make a choice between using the Vonage dialer for voip, or native dialer if i want to use the 100 minutes (for emergencies). All incoming calls would go straight to carrier minutes.

The problem is, i'm not sure how long Vonage will be having their 3000 free minutes offer going. If they ever stop that, I'd like to know of an alternative that I can use.

Groove IP integrates with GTalk, and seems to always intercept incoming calls (which I don't want). Also since it integrates with Gtalk, It will be weird having the dual rings. (I do not want to disable forwarding to my cell from Google Voice)
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Errorcod3.

Congrats on your great thread on Amazon based Asterisk server setup. Do you have a link for this VPN setup?
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
Does anyone have experience with Skype? I hear the quality is good and you can have it show your gv number however, before I spend the $2.99 I was wondering if anyone uses this on a daily basis and knows how it performs while driving. About half my calls are made on the move and Vonage and the other voip options constantly cut out and lag while driving.
[Nexus 4 General] errorcod3:
pptp is very simple to get running. On the bottom of the Amazon EC Asterisk OP is a quick guide to getting a pptp vpn server up.

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IMO you will have the same problem with Skype. There are two problems with calling while driving.

1. Your connection is going to get passed from one tower to the next as you travel. This obviously can disrupt your connection. Latency and jitter are not so good on mobile networks to begin with, and driving compounds the problem.

2. It's not too safe to drive and talk on the phone =-)

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No, you connect your phone to a vpn server then tether it to a computer. That way tmo can't see your traffic - - it's all encrypted.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
Hey guys. I got this phone today, and popped my T-Mobile prepaid micro Sim inside and to my supprise recieved only a message from tmobile. I know for a fact I have received at least 1 message since last week, but there not showing up. Is there a limit on how long T-Mobile stores messages on there servers?
[Nexus 4 General] ahmadshawki:
Google Voice uses it's own app to do the texting. You can choose to make it the default for sms. As for MMS, you cannot send any MMS. But if someone sends you an MMS, it will forward it to your email so it will be view-able.

Another option to integrate it is install this, though a lot of mixed reviews: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mdrtools.apps.gvintegration

Groove IP receives calls only when you forward your Google Voice to Google Chat. I guess you can just enable it or disable it at your wish. Or may be create a Tasker profile to disable Groove IP when you get home (based on GPS). Or you can use Spare Phone, as it has the option to change the forwarding options from within the app itself.

Hope this helps...
[Nexus 4 General] zerosource:
Went to T-mobile local store and they wanted $19.99 for micro-sim. FU. went home and cut it myself. Works perfectly.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
That is only true if the person sending the MMS is using Sprint. No other carriers are supported. It's the only reason why I'm not using GV. If they had true MMS support, I would port my number instantly.

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I cut mine too when I got my N4 but I did order a micro sim from t-mobile.com just in case. It is usually 99 cents or free. Why T-mobile stores always sell sim cards for $20 is beyond me when their own website basically gives them away.
[Nexus 4 General] linye:
Went the other day to get two micro Sims. One for me on this plan and another for my girlfriend which is on a classic plan.

I asked how much was it and to my surprise she answered "oh, I won't charge you for that" :beer:
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
I use Bluetooth and I'm competent. :)

Guess I'll have to wait till the tech can handle tower transitions as good as my voice signal lol.
[Nexus 4 General] data2000:
Go to a Tmo company store next time not a reseller its free
[Nexus 4 General] jawmail:
Wow, I cut mine but screwed it up. Went to the local T-mo store and she gave me a new one for free and activated it on the spot:good:
[Nexus 4 General] MrCapcom:
So it seems everyone is saying to use the Vonage app for VoIP calls? Does it do incoming on the Vonage app?

I just got my Nexus 4 and the 30 Tmo plan just trying to see whats up it alot to read and I think I'm missing somethings.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
No, Vonage is outgoing calls only. GrooveIP works well if you have a reliable and fast Wi-Fi connection. It sucks if you don't. Talkatone sounds too fuzzy. Vonage is okay. I haven't tried Skype on a strong and fast Wi-Fi signal yet, but on 4G, it distorts from time to time.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] MrCapcom:
Cool I got peeps going to my google voice and ill just decline call lol and call back if I wanna talk to them :laugh: low wifi my wife said the vonage app was pretty good I gotta see how well it does over hspa+
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Check out my signature. I compared 12 different VOIP solutions.
[Nexus 4 General] MrCapcom:
Thanks I looked and seems like Vonage was the way to go :) I wanna do the other method but it is hard as far as following steps etc I gotta do it on a day im not stressed with other things lmbo
[Nexus 4 General] chw2006:
I used to have a Galaxy Nexus on this plan. I got maybe 5-7 Mbps down most of the time. But this phone's radio is just freaking awesome, I'm getting 10-14 Mbps now, which is sweet.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
The GN didn't support HSPA+42 which is deployed by T-Mobile in many areas. This is probably why you see speed improvements with the N4 which does support it.
[Nexus 4 General] chancy319:
Yeah. I know about the better radio. I just really like it.
[Nexus 4 General] gordata:
I got screwed by t-mobile. I bought a sim card with activation kit from t-mobile.com and I received it yesterday. I followed the steps online to activate it but I got a error at the end and was asked to call customer service. I did and the dumb dude on the line puts me on the $30 1500 minutes/text 30 Mb data plan (useless to me), I repeatedly asked him about the $30 100 minute unlimited text and data plan and he assured me that I was on the plan I wanted. I then went online and bought a $30 refill card and then this morning I checked account and noticed the error.... I have spoken to two customer service reps and they both have tried to switch it and are not able too. I have asked to speak to a manager with no luck. They keep telling me to visit a Walmart. They are kind of far from me. What are my options, I bought two kits originally, so I am going to try to activate it on the correct plan and take the $30 as a lost or make some international calls.
[Nexus 4 General] MrCapcom:
Mines was the same way but it would only show the 1500min 30mb data until i paided for a "refill" so what I did was call in and make sure that when I paided with my debit card what they would see in the system as me paying for and from two reps they said it was the 100minutes/5gb data so i paided and then my account changed. Try calling in and see, i think they just intially do the 1500min/30mb of data to make the account then it changes.:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] gordata:
I bought a $30 refill card from refill mart. Does it matter which $30 card I buy?
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
All T-mobile cards work. They just add money value to your account. It doesn't matter what plan you have.
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Skype disappointed me a lot. It has poor integration with the OS and the quality was kind of spotty.

Vonage was FANTASTIC for outgoing calls. Unfortunately, if I get another call to my cell while talking out on Vonage, that call takes precedence and Vonage either successfully puts the other call on hold with no warning, or just crashes. Annoying to say the least.

Personally, I gave up on VoIP. I've been using my phone more and more for business lately, so I just activated a Solavei SIM instead. Tried T-Mobile's new $70 unlimited for awhile, but frankly it's one month a year (vacation time) that I'd ever use enough data to justify it.
[Nexus 4 General] yomama84:
He more likely lied to you since you can only get the $30 5gb plan online and Walmart.
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Really? It was terrible for me. It kept force closing and everything sounded raspy. Groove IP worked well though.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Well said.

I use VoIP for all my calls but I would not rely on it for my business.

IMO, VoIP call quality is much better than GSM cell calls. But the reliability is still behind. Many ppl are working hard to improve the reliability.
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Reliability is just fine at home with my WiFi. And it is okay at school. It is just on the road where I use minutes
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
What's the issue on the road? If bad call quality, research g729 iLBC codecs.
[Nexus 4 General] ahmadshawki:
Sorry to report. I followed the OP instructions and did everything, then I tried about 7 outgoing calls and 5 incoming calls on WiFi. They sounded TERRIBLE. Then again I tried them on 3G and again the sounded no better at all than Groove IP or Spare Phone. May be I did something wrong, but I didn't get the quality I was hoping for.

I tried using the built-in internet calling. It sounds ok (like the others) but i can't receive calls, though I had checked the Receive Calls option. I tried following the tutorials but may be the PBXes.org account is not reliable enough. It keeps activating/ de-activating almost all the time.

I just thought I'd share my experience.

For me in the Sacramento area in California, Groove IP worked the best for me...
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
If your activation falls thru online due to a bad activation number, the tmo customer service reps on the phone are suppose to fix it for you and keep you on the $30 4g unl plan.

Keep calling till you get someone who knows what they are doing and keep asking to escalate to a manager, and be NICE. You get a lot farther by being nice. If you lose your temper, apologize and explain it's just your frustration with how everything went wrong. If they can't help you, call the prepaid number and ask if you can activate a new sim on the $30 4g unl plan and transfer the $30 balance.

I was able to transfer my paygo balance to a new sim with a csr on the phone and activated a new sim- couple months ago. Called twice before I got someone who could help me. Good luck.
[Nexus 4 General] chw2006:
But it did support HSPA+21, so shouldn't it technically be able to get up to 21 Mbps or did T-Mobile decide to get lazy and not give that to me in my area? I got the H symbol quite a lot, it's not like I was on 3G the whole time.
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
That's so stupid. Tmobile actually favors new customers over the loyal customers they've had for years?

Would it be possible to cancel my Tmobile account and transfer my number over to a new account, or is that out of the equation?
[Nexus 4 General] CyberPunk7t9:
I'm on this $30 prepaid plan. I get 16-25Mbps down.
[Nexus 4 General] Dr. Bocephus:
Does this also allow texts to be sent through this same process when you are connected this way?

Can you use the regular address book and stock texting app to send texts to your contacts?

If you are not in wifi range and need to use data, when using this will you still be able to make receive calls on the regular cell network?

Sorry for all the questions, a little new to all of this.

thanks
[Nexus 4 General] acerjohn:
For myself, I found the Bobsled by TMobile to offer free calling but you get a 619 ( i believe ) area code. There is also the magicjack app. Low cost pick your number and fully works with android.

32.30 for tmobile

1.70 for magicjack

34.00 total

John
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Coming from Sprint SERO (CDMA), I went through several trial and errors to finally get the phone set up properly.

1. Understanding what SIM card does.

2. had to set APN properly to get 3g data.

3. sipdroid + pbxes + GV to get free calling. Much better than talkatone/GrooveIP. (Being so integrated with Android dialer, I wasn't sure whether I was using VOIP or minutes to make and receive calls. Had to use airplane mode to make sure I wasn't using minutes.)

If only I can convince my wife to ditch her SERO plan!
[Nexus 4 General] MarkGbe:
wow.. this is cool. i wonder how long it will remain free.

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yeah just test and my wife said i did not sound clear.
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
No promotions. A minute is a minute. For that matter, 1:01 is 2 minutes.

I just tend to... go visit the people I want to talk to. I don't spend much time on my phone using the phone unless it's for work, and in that case I have a handy dandy office phone that my GV is pointed towards.

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Port your number to Google Voice

Order a new SIM card online for 99 cents

Activate it on the $30/mo plan, not giving a flying crap what your real T-mobile number is

???

Profit!
[Nexus 4 General] dwd3885:
dude, it's prepaid. There is no such thing as loyal customers. You can always just get a new sim and activate that on the $30 plan.

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I JUST set this up. Looks like you just use the dialer and you get a prompt whether or not you want to use the cell network or internet. I just checked internet. Now I need to test whether or not it really isn't using my minutes. Also, the service is just some guy, so you are giving your Google info to him.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
I tested 3g data speed when I dropped off my kid at school. I got 20mbits down, 1mbits up.

I made a phone call with sipdroid using data and it was just okay. Not too bad or not too great. It was clear but occasionally experienced hiccups.

If I need to make an important call, I'll switch to regular cell voice calls.
[Nexus 4 General] jlk_250:
That is what I did, with a 5% discount code (as I recall). One hitch was that for new activations the T-mobile system requires you to pay by credit card but that bombed out for me so I had to get an actual person to help. (Trying to get signed up online was a waste of time. One snag and their system locked my request up, requiring human intervention.) Then I was not forced to use the CC for the first payment and I am all set.

So far I am very pleased. My house is in a marginal coverage spot and it shows me bouncing between "3G" and "H", whatever that means. Either way, data works fast. I did have go into settings and manually enable the T-mobile data connection before I got data but I did not have to modify APN settings. I am sold on this plan!
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
So I went to the TMobile store and they had no problem setting me up on this plan. They were a little confused on how to do it at first and I think they just did it through the website like I would have but it was nice to have them there make sure it was setup correctly and working. Great customer service from TMobile.... unfortunately their data service isn't as good as their customer service.
[Nexus 4 General] n1ggyn1ce:
so I'm a dumbass, I got my phone monday and was @#$%$% why can't I stick my sim card in the slot. DUH! anyways, went to my local tmobile store and asked for a micro-sim. Clerk was like "where's ur iphone?" I'm like, "it's not an iphone, it's da new nexus." Clerk was like "whoA! dude! how'd u get that?" Then he proceeded to give me a free micro-sim replacement. Cool story bro.
[Nexus 4 General] bhazard451:
Getting 13Mbps download on the N4 where my GS3 maxed at 10Mbps in my area. Phone works great on the plan.
[Nexus 4 General] Lockeskidney:
i feel like a lot of people who are living on the VOIP option arent using it for work. Anyone use it for a living and are making through it
[Nexus 4 General] mastibeta:
Cant do that, it's for new activations only.
[Nexus 4 General] goncalorob:
So I've never been on T-Mobile meaning I should be able to walk into walmart, buy the activation kit (assuming they have one for a microsim) then pick up that 30 dollar card. Go online set up my account, activate my own phone and get it all up and running with my old number as well?
[Nexus 4 General] mastibeta:
Walk in to t-mobile, buy a micoro sim and have them set it up, most will comp the sim...have to make sure you find someone that knows the 30$ plan...they can do in store, i confirmed yesterday.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Most T-mobile stores will not activate this plan.
[Nexus 4 General] mastibeta:
They cant directly, but they can pull it up on the web and do it for you. If they don't, it's because they are lazy.
[Nexus 4 General] colemanimal:
To get the $30 plan at wal mart you have to buy a crap phone for $30 and $30 refill card, then go out to the parking lot and activate the sim in your new cheap phone and load the refill. after you do that drive to the mall and go to the t-mobile kiosk and ask them to punch the sim into a mini sim with the little puncher tool they use for iphone, put it in and you should be good to go. this is still the cheapest way to go as long as you can stay under 250 minutes, because additional minutes are only $0.10

to touch on the original subject of this thread, the built in internet calling works far better than any of the apps. you can set up an account with "pbxes.org" to forward to "google talk" via "google voice" using sipdroid and then transfer the settings into the native internet calling and delete sipdroid. call quality is better and lag is less, but still noticeable, and it integrates better than any app with the native dialer. there are tutorials out there, but i don't know where right now.

happy voiping!
[Nexus 4 General] biggiestuff:
Couldn't find the answer anywhere but I'm suspecting it's no. Can you use the mobile broadband refill cards to refill your cell plan? Best Buy seems to be sold out everywhere in my area.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr Ian B:
I dont think it matters. Money card is money card for this plan. Try callingmart.com for cheaper prices and no sales tax.

Ian B
[Nexus 4 General] rich2k4:
Ok so I just found out something about Iphones that kind of put me off to using Google Voice. Group texts sent with Iphones comes through as MMS so if you use GV, you won't get them.

The Nexus 4 is my first ever smart phone so I never had any of my friends send me pictures before, nor do I recall them ever sending out a group text, but I'm thinking of the future if they did I wouldn't get it.

Maybe someone can give their opinion on what they would do in my situation.

I rarely talk a lot on the phone. But I text a lot, and will be using a good amount of data. I'm currently using Virgin Mobile and crappy dumb phone. I pay roughly $33 per month for 1500 minutes, 1500 texts, and 30mb data. Its been 3 weeks into this current month and I have only used 40 minutes. Last month it was only 13 minutes.

Even though I rarely talk on the phone, I recently graduated from college and as a result, a lot of recruiters have been calling me and trying to set up phone interviews. These interviews can last anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour. I'm afraid that with this plan 100 minutes would not cut it for the months where I might have a couple phone interviews.

That is why Google Voice and VOIP appeals to me. I could use GV full time, and answer calls on Gmail when I am home, and then answer using carrier minutes when I am not home. I love the visual voicemail feature and text to e-mail, and the flexibility that GV gives you with different options. I also love that I can switch carriers as much as I want, and

What I don't like is the lack of MMS. I never had a smart phone before so I'm not sure how often people send MMS or how often Iphone users send Group Text MMS. But i'd like to have all features available and not have to deal with missing anything.

Another option I figured I could do is to port my current virgin mobile number to T-mobile, and use the plan normally without google voice, and just use Vonage for outgoing calls. Then for all my business and work related stuff, just give them a google voice number that is forwarded to Gmail. Whenever I have a phone interview I'm always home anyways. I figure I could just answer those calls using gmail. This way these recruiters and companies never really know my real private phone number.

I really don't know which way to go. I could just go with Straight Talk unlimited plan, but thats over a $20 difference with tax, and I heard they throttle after small usage of data. I'd like to keep the price at or below what I pay now.

If you were in my position, what would you recommend?