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[Nexus 4 General] NCatron:
No, that's not an error, it's their fraud detection system. Many PIN vendors have been ripped off by people using stolen CC# to buy tons of PINs to resell on eBay, leaving the PIN vendors stuck with the bill. They want to verify you are legit, it's a one-time thing for new customers.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
I order from them every month so not a new customer.

Anyway it magically was processed this morning. Just weird that I use the same PayPal account each month and it just now got flagged.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Noticed something strange.

When theres an H next to the signal bars I get full HSPA+ speeds

But it sometimes goes to 3G. Not a problem, but what I noticed is when it says 3G I do not get data (internet) at ALL. I have to wait until there is HSPA+ again.

Anybody else face this problem?

Edit: also when I force 2G and it says E, I don't get any data either...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
On 3g, several people claimed that Skype call quality is the best. Unfortunately, skypein is not free.

I just found 2 ways to forward GV calls to Skype for free.

1) ippi + pbxes

2) sipgate

For details, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35553272&postcount=1608

edited: 3) found pbxes can also ring skype via PSTN dial skypeID@skype. But there's a 3 min limit.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Hey all,

Does this plan come with a tmob email address? Usually it contains the phone number? I could not get mine working?

Thanks

---------- Post added at 04:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

Never mind... Working now..

It is your number@tmomail.net
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
What about Sipgate free by itself? From a quick look at their site, it seems it should work. Are there any catches, problems, etc?

[Edit] Never mind, seems you can't register for free anymore, they just haven't taken down the huge promos for it.
[Nexus 4 General] sethlo:
I've got sipdroid set up with pbex.org. I also set up internet calling with the native dialer and pbex settings from sipdroid.

Using either one, callers on the other end complain they can hear their own echo.

Can anyone suggest a solution to stop the echo?
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
Setting up your pbxes through csipsimple should help the echo in my experience. I've started using Vonage for free outgoing calls. I setup native dialer with pbxes for incoming. If people complain about quality I just say call you right back and call back with the Vonage.
[Nexus 4 General] FallN:
I've had this plan for a month. I'm on my last day of this cycle. I've been testing data speeds, tethering (my laptop and tablet) and trying to push the throttle cap to see what kind of speeds I get once I hit out, lol.

So, just a firsthand confirmation: TMO immediately throttles you to dialup speeds the second you go over 5GBs of data on this plan. So don't think for a minute that they don't enforce it. They do.

Consider this a 5GB data plan because the speeds are literally unusable after 5GBs. :eek:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Man, those are NOT dialup speeds. People don't remember what an AOL 56K connection was really like. 500ms on a good day, 3-4kbps absolutely maxed out. By comparison you're setting records.

But, yeah, T-Mobile's throttling is instant and unforgiving. It's all done on the backend. People have had luck with calling in to renew a few days early to reset the cap on data/minutes if they accidentally hit it too early, though, so if you're desperate to get your speed back, coughing up another $30 will do the trick.
[Nexus 4 General] FallN:
I remember all too well the dialup days. Sorry for you but I got 56k or close to it. So these speeds are, basically, (slightly more than) what I got for dialup back in the day.

Either way it hurts and it ain't pretty, lol.

Nope, not worried about renewing my plan early. I'm on the last day of my plan and my test timing is spot on. As I stated in my prior post, I was PURPOSEFULLY pushing the data cap to see what speeds lie beyond 5GBs. I found out, lol. :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
Anyone remember 28.8? That's what I had, never had a 56k modem
[Nexus 4 General] CatsAreGods:
Well...

I started with a 300 baud modem. Then someone invented 1200 baud and it was amazing. When 14.4 came out, it was like a superhighway. So 28.8 was icing on the cake!
[Nexus 4 General] revamper:
Just activated this plan today. I came from sprint and I'm loving it!
[Nexus 4 General] quentin0:
Been on this plan for the past two weeks, been pretty good. I ported my verizon number to Google voice...pretty scary because of the whole ETF fee fud. But if you request a new number on verizons site while Google voice ports your number, you will not have your contract cancelled. Porting to GV takes 24 hours, not a minute sooner. However, after I ported my number, my Verizon Gnex no longer has service. I think I might need a new Verizon sim card for that phone, as I have rebooted several times with and without the sim card in hoping it will pick up the new number, but it does not get any service.

As soon as I get my gnex up and running again, I will be using that as my own personal mifi device, especially since I get 40mbps down, 20mbps up w/ vzw at my job (the tower must be next to my building or something). I intend to make sure I get my money's worth from verizon...if they don't cancel my contract due to high usage, I just haven't tried hard enough.

I've been having problems before I ported my number with tethering my Nexus 4 to my galaxy nexus...I have no idea why. My speeds when my gnex was a hotspot were very slow: 1 mbps down. I can tether my nexus 7 to my gnex and get much higher speeds, same with my laptop, but my nexus 4 is capped at 1 mbps. I've tried everything, but I haven't tried a custom rom for my nexus 4, which shouldn't make a difference, but I'm gonna try anyway. If anyone has any suggestions to fix that, I'd appreciate it!
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1763109-I-ve-just-been-throttled!

3-4KB/s, not kbps... 56k max is 53.3kbps. Considering the average phoneline, seeing something in the 40kbps range was more common. That still puts you at around 5KB/s. Latency is around 120ms, maybe slightly better with the later V.92, although I moved onto cable from V.90.

V.92 brought upload up to around 48kbps from the previous 33.6 and added compression

webpages were way less fat back in the day. 56k wasn't so bad.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
I was told you can keep the same Sim and get the new number but VZW tech support. I found that out when I tried to port my number but found out it was a 8yo Alltel prepaid that is not eligible to port anywhere :(
[Nexus 4 General] revamper:
Goodbye sprint
[Nexus 4 General] Screwhead24:
no contract + unlocked phone = win
[Nexus 4 General] alexandr_stok:
nice
[Nexus 4 General] hammmy:
Yes, I activated my Nexus 4 on this plan today and I get this behavior at home. Constant bouncing from HSPA+ down to 3G and back up again. In SpeedTest, I can see the speeds change in realtime as this occurs, so I doubt any VoIP connection would hold. Fortunately, I would normally be on wifi here so it's not a problem for me but I will have to see how it behaves elsewhere.

If I recall correctly from back when I had a T-mo dumbphone years ago, my home location had bad interference issues with their network at the time. This can be difficult to diagnose: signal strength can be excellent but because two (or more) towers using the same frequency bands are "visible" from the location, they interfere with each other so that the signal-to-noise ratio to any one of the affected towers is too low for practical use. The network provider can monkey with the tilt of the sectored antennae to try to "hide" one of the towers from the other but given the nature of terrain, this is not always possible or practical. Confirming the issue would require a drive test, which would mean high cost, which isn't going to happen without a lot of complaints from customers in a specific locale. Interference can be minimized but never wholly eliminated, especially in a market with a lot of elevation changes.

I used to work in the cellular industry with RF planning software tools.
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
No. Switching between UTMS and HSPA is a result of fast dormancy. A VoIP call would hold just fine given all other circumstances are good, because so long as you have an active data stream going on you won't switch back down to UTMS from HSPA.
[Nexus 4 General] hammmy:
It's not just going dormant to conserve battery, it's actively doing it while streaming. The connection is holding open but the speed is varying widely. I'm getting out to the fuzzy edges of my knowledge here but I can't think that's going to work well with TCP connections. VoIP is UDP though, yes? (I'm using Vonage's app).

Edit: I got that TCP/UDP thing backwards, didn't I? TCP handles varying connections better while UDP wouldn't. Like I said, fuzzy edges. Oh look, a pink elephant!
[Nexus 4 General] andoird213:
I'm sure this has been addressed numerous times in this thread as it has in others...but does anyone know of an actual guide to the best way to optimize the minutes usage of this plan (i.e. voice over data)?
[Nexus 4 General] JeffTech:
This happened to me yesterday (3G had no data connection), but it's not an issue today. I tried locking to 2G, and was still able to get data. Hope the issue resolves itself for you! I know that having no data is a PITA!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Pheno.menon:
Are you guys getting frequent signal loss in low coverage areas?

At work my signal goes from 2-3 bars to zero and back pretty often. Thought it might have something to do with their ongoing 1900mhz refarm, but it's been going on for almost 2 months now, starting with my gnex.

Transmission sent from my badass Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
If you are in good Tmo 3g coverage area, then use internet calling (VOIP) rather than using minutes.

I'm in S. Florida with good Tmo coverage and only used 12 out of 100 allotted minutes last month. I clocked more than 500 minutes using VOIP. My VOIP solution uses iLBC codec, which is better than Tmo's GSM codec. In my testing, it resulted in better call quality.
[Nexus 4 General] doublem75:
VoIP is for outgoing but what for incoming calls? I don't know to much about I'm using VOIP for international calls only
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
I use VOIP for making free calls both incoming and outbound. There are tons of howto's in XDA. Here's one that I posted.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2057887
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
That's one of the biggest topics covered in this thread. You are doing yourself a disservice if you have a VOIP interest and haven't read it all.
[Nexus 4 General] andoird213:
Thanks guys. I was assuming that was the route everyone took and a mixture between the two
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Hey I'm in kendall/doral/downtown how is the coverage and what are the speeds like. I plan on doing T-Mobile classic plan unlimited 4g. Thinking about doing the VoIP.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
I'm in Broward county and consistently getting 10 mbps+ speed on 3g. I was in Kendall a few weeks ago but didn't notice any difference in speed. Unfortunately, I didn't do any speed test.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Has anybody else experienced sometimes at random your T Mobile service will display blue bars however you cannot get any data? This happens to me frequently for some reason. I can turn data off and then back on however I will only have gray bars for the next 5 to 10 minutes and then I will get my data back. It's kind of annoying sometimes but hey I'm only paying 30 dollars a month

Sent from my Franco'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
I had similar experiences with Sprint before I switched to Tmo. But I work in a massive old school building that blocks almost all carrier's signals and my guess is that after so much abuse something in the logic gets confused and gets locked up. Yes, I realize I'm anthropomorphizing but I'm OK with that. :). It's happened once since I switched to Tmo (about a month). I just reboot the phone if a quick toggle of the radio doesn't work.
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Oh that's awesome cant wait to leave sprint.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
lol. I also came from Sprint.

I found Tmo has 50x better data connection but Sprint has better call quality. It doesn't matter any more because I rely on VOIP calls even on 3g.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
I would try checking out your GAPPS package if your running a ROM. Sometimes that happens with older ones. Try goo.im/gapps and use the latest..

I don't have any issues with that. Of course I have the 3G/H+ rev up but its understandable and probably saves battery as well
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Argh, seems to be an ongoing problem with me ever since I got the Nexus 4. Maybe I should walk into a T Mobile store or call them?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] stradevarius:
Hey guys,

I recently unlocked and rooted my nexus 4 so I could change chrome to always load desktop sites (via this thread - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1811101) among other reasons. I'm also on the T-Mobile 30 dollar pre-paid. Ever since adding this script, instead of loading my webpage of choice, I load a T-Mobile hotspot page (attached image). This occurs only over 3g/4g and not WiFi. Anyone else experiencing this problem? I tried Dolphin browser with the user agent set to desktop and have yet to experience this problem. Thanks!

Stradevarius
[Nexus 4 General] quentin0:
It looks like t-mo filters it's hotspot usage through User Agent...however I just tested this by flashing that file you linked to and I am able to browse sites without getting that hotspot page (on Chrome over 3g). You might want to try a custom rom to see if that fixes it.
[Nexus 4 General] CatsAreGods:
I bet they think you're illegally tethering now and trying to sell you the service.
[Nexus 4 General] stradevarius:
When I first flashed the script, I was able to browse normally for about 3-4 hours, but now after about one or two loaded pages I receive that hotspot page. Keep me updated on if you notice anything different!

Yeah, I went into the store and they couldn't help me, but I'm going to call the number they provide and maybe they can disable that from popping up, who knows.

Stradevarius
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
It could be the script. I tethered my Nexus 7 for hours today and never had the popup in chrome with the useragent as desktop
[Nexus 4 General] delacroix2906:
I'm using Nexus 4 with a monthly $30 unlimited data, but I have problems while posting ads to craigslist page. I can make it on my computer with ATT internet plan as usual but I haven't posted any successful ads with my mobile yet. Anyone have the same issues or have any solution. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
So, I've been using this plan and all's well, and I've been using Vonage for outgoing calls since it uses the same phone number without having to have to port it over. My question is whether there are any other VoIP services that do the same, that integrate with the stock dialer? Like, I have xxx-xxx number for tmobile, and when I call with the Vonage app, it shows that same xxx-xxx number on other people's phones, but I'm not sure whether there are any other services that do the same.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
Sounds like it could be the browser and not the connection to me
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Heads up, Google Voice is going to be free through 2013 as well!
[Nexus 4 General] quentin0:
You're absolutely right. Just tried again and I now got the hotspot page. Gosh that is so stupid and annoying...I am going to flash AOKP and see if that does anything.
[Nexus 4 General] quentin0:
Doesn't do anything, still getting the hotspot page. That's frustrating.
[Nexus 4 General] Nxxx:
I've been using the $30 plan for the last several days and I noticed the N4 continuously goes back and forth between 4G and 3G, even if I'm standing in the same spot.

Has anyone else's Nexus done that? I bought it from Daily Steals and am worried about returning.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
You can change the UA string on most desktop browsers to reflect a mobile browser and you will never get the hotspot page again. Google it

Sent from my Franco'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
I heard that it's a normal behavior to save battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] blahblahyoutoo:
that's still faster than 56k dial up, which was closer to 33.6kbps.

:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
If you are not using data is there any advantage of 4G over 2G?
[Nexus 4 General] robrob777:
I usually use the $30 prepaid plan, but i use the version with 1500min/text + 30mb data, yes only 30mb data, and believe it or not, I don't run out of data, I usually have WIFI and i use the 30mb only for Whatsapp, email and occasional Google maps, my mobile data is always on, everything else is restricted in settings/data usage. I usually talk/text more than 1000 mins/txt per month
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
No, 4G and 2G is strictly data related and its speeds but if you don't even use data it doesn't matter
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Oh my God. Kudos to you. I use 30mb in a few minutes without even trying!
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
My wife is the same way.. Uses like 100mb a month.. I can use that in less then an hour if I'm not careful
[Nexus 4 General] burrrcub:
Disabled web guard and it is still active. Anyone k ow how long u til its removed once verified?
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Took mine about 12 hours to go away

Sent from my Franco'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
I didn't even know that was enabled by default.... I was not amused
[Nexus 4 General] stradevarius:
Thanks for the effort, but it seems that until chrome comes built in with a way to determine the user agent, that i'll have to use dolphin browser when over data.

Yeah I also have a tethering app that does this. The problem is that after making chrome (on our phones) force desktop mode for all sites via a script change, T-Mobile's hotspot algorithm thinks our phones are laptops connecting to the internet via phone hotspot.

Stradevarius
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
I don't think Chrome needs to be fixed I think T-mobile needs to fix things on their side.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
They don't need to fix anything they simply determine if you are tethering with the user agent and the all desktop script must make it seem like the UA is desktop leading them to believe you are tethering. There isn't any better way to catch freeloading tetherers so that is how it is done
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
I've never had my phone browser blocked for tethering, even with desktop ua set.I've only seen it when I tethered my laptop to it and used the laptop browser

Sent from my Franco'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
I think the script he ran did something different... I know elementary reasoning but that's probably the reason. Since mobile browsers usually typically allow switching to a desktop UA (dolphin, yet he can use dolphin on desktop perfectly fine but chrome not with the script) then there must be something different about the script
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Vonage

I have heard Vonage Mobile has great call quality. However, I gave up on it before because of no inbound calls and no android integration. But I gave it another try and found some interesting things.

1. You can receive calls from another Vonage Mobile user. However, don't test this on 2 phones on the same wifi network. There will be no sound in one phone. For testing, have at least one phone on 3g.

2. It uses Google Cloud Messaging (push notification) service. So battery drain is minimal.

3. This is the most shocking thing. Even if I exit the app (android settings confirmed that it's not running), it can still receive calls from another Vonage user. Combined with #2, this can be a killer app.

Of course, if you need to receive lots of calls from unknown party, you can't use Vonage. But if you have a limited number of regular callers, Vonage will provide a battery efficient HD quality voice calls.
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
Can you explain what you mean by that or why that is?
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
He probably means people calling you who don't use Vonage as the "unknown party" because if they are not close you cannot tell them to use Vonage and call you, whereas with some friends you could
[Nexus 4 General] secretasianman:
It really depends on your service provider. I use GrooVeIP at home on my Charter cable internet connection over WiFi and it works well. My Net Talk device for my regular home phones work well.

Use of VoIP over the cellular network really depends on signal strength and the latency of the particular tower you are connected to (microwave vs fiber backhaul and network congestion). You're better off paying for more minutes if you plan on talking a lot over a cellular network.

That's where GrooVeIP is better... incoming calls don't eat up your minutes and the call quality is good on a home WiFi connection. It's $5 well spent if you don't want to count minutes on incoming calls.
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
PBX server

Screw Vonage, GrooveIP, and all of that other nonsense. The only way to reliably call over HSPA+ is to use an Asterisk based server with FreePBX, the Google Voice module, and the g729 codec. All calls are routed over a Google Voice 'trunk' and are free.

You can use a turn key system like PBX in a flash to accomplish this. You need to run PIAF on an old desktop, notebook, or in a virtual machine. I've been using a notebook from 2007 as a server, and it works swimmingly. PIAF must be used behind a hardware firewall, and obviously, you need a solid internet connection. I have 30Mb/7Mb from Comcast, and it's $50 a month. You must poke holes in your firewall, so be prepared for hack attempts, if you don't utilize an IP blacklist, or only allow certain IPs to connect. You want to use VERY strong extension and maint passwords.

It's absolutely mandatory to use the g729 codec, or at least Speex. g729 is a low-latency, and low-bandwidth codec that works reliably over HSPA+. Google Voice natively uses G.711u, and it NOT optimized for WiFi, or cellular use. g729 has a lower latency than SILK, which is what Skype uses, and almost matches the quality of G.711u. Asterisk will transcode G.711u to g729 and make it suitable for HSPA+. With g729, I can check my voicemail over EDGE, so that's saying something about the amount of bandwidth needed.

I have my system set up to ring my remote and local extensions for 25 seconds, and if there is no answer, the call is forwarded to my T-Mobile number for 12 seconds, and then the call is sent to voicemail. I have it set up like this to be certain that I can always receive a call. One of these days I am going to write a guide. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I've been using this method for roughly 4 months now.
[Nexus 4 General] powerdoesntrun:
You can try it yourself on their web site I ordered a SIM kit and got it before my phone showed up. It's fairly simple, if you follow the directions, but I ran into some issues getting my number ported over and I had to call (If coming from verizon, you can't include a dash in your account number when you fill out the form). After that, you can create an account on their web site (just make sure you don't put a "v" in your password, or you can't log in. learned that the hard way.) I currently am chatting with a rep because I can't get a data connection (you may have to take a look at your APN settings).

If someone at a store can help, it might be easier. It's supposed to be simple, but I've run into hiccups where I wouldn't have expected them. Someone else will have to respond to let you know if T-Mobile or Walmart stores will help.
[Nexus 4 General] dcarpenter85:
What kind of data speeds are you getting on the 30 dollar plan? Is it identical to post paid tmo subscribers?