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[Nexus 4 General] ryuker:
You have to root and flash/change the nexus build.prop settings to enable 4g/LTE first. Google software disables it by default to 3g :crying:

Use this to change to 4g:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2358931

I tried switching to other T-mo plans....they all suck unless you don't use data much. $50 a month was something like 500mb cap on 3g/4g and $60 was 2gb cap I believe. After that is lowers to 56k level speeds.....streaming music was nigh impossible. $30 gives you 5gb 3g/4g and 100 minutes which is the best bang for your buck if you use VoIP or rarely talk.

Granted, I use the $30 plan and use my VoIP with my own PBX for all my calls so the 100 minute limit is a non issue. I haven't tried the all-n-one app solutions for VoIP like sipdroid or grooveIP now that I have 4g enabled....they might actually be tolerable now since 4g lowered my latency by 50% usually so give them a shot. I find VoIP over T-mobile 4g to be excellent.

Tip of advice, change option in your VoIP app to enable "software" volume control....Nexus 4 it is pretty iffy over VoIP until I enabled that in Csipsimple.

Other carries had some interesting plans for cheaper prices(Virgin) but they tended to be CDMA networks which your nexus likely doesn't support(is there a CDMA nexus 4?). I'm not familiar with their data caps. Also, the current implementation of 4g/LTE for nexus 4 ONLY works with T-mobile's 4g network(and others using the same band for 4g) in the USA but many more Canadian Carriers.
[Nexus 4 General] SpookyTunes:
Your phone will idle on HSPA, but switch to HSPA+ with data use. This is called "Fast Dormancy" an is normal.

StraightTalk has both T-Mobile and AT&T SIM options, however, there is no roaming between carriers. The AT&T SIM is known for throttling issues as well. The only way to get data roaming is postpaid T-Mobile, and then is quite limited: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3299

If you do not need minutes, I would look at the prepaid AT&T data plans for the iPad (known to work on the Nexus 4), and switch SIM cards when needed.
[Nexus 4 General] fredmanwalking:
Thanks ryuker and SpookyTunes, I have the answers I need for now. The real test will be how much I may be inconvenienced by the lack of data roaming, but there are plenty of temporary patches for those situations. The savings from a $30/mo plan should be well worth it, when most months roaming won't be an issue.

Anyone in the thread live in Wisconsin? If so, what types of speeds do you see on HSPA+ where you are? I'm barely topping 1.5 Mbps down and up. I expect rates much faster than that. Browsing and downloads are snappy, so maybe it's the Speedtest.net app. I do have the location set properly.
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
If you gave the wrong account number (it is not your phone number) or pin, they won't tell you
[Nexus 4 General] hartleyshc:
So are there any problems with porting your number FROM a prepaid account? I remember years ago I used my Treo 650 on AT&T/cingular gophone plan, I would be able to port my number to a prepaid plan, but once it was it would be locked to the go phone plan and wouldn't be able to be ported out of that plan.

Of course this was like 8-9 years ago, not sure if things have changed between traditional plans and prepaid plans now a days.

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[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
No issues... Either over the net or phone prompts it will ask if you want to activate using an existing number. Easy peasey.
[Nexus 4 General] hartleyshc:
Porting TO a prepaid was never a problem. I'm talking about porting your number FROM the prepaid plan.

I was an original traditional AT&T member (pre-cingular merger). I ported my number to the gophone plan from the traditional plan without problems like 10 years ago. Fast forward to about 3-4 years ago. Married now and my wife and I decided to start a traditional family plan. I was NOT able to port my number FROM the gophone plan to our new family plan because of the way prepaid plans worked.

So, had to get a new number after like 15 years.

With everyone jumping on this prepaid bandwagon I wanted to potentially warn those who might not be able to get their number back. But I would like to hear from someone who has ported a number FROM the prepaid plan to see if this is still the case.

Side note: T-Mobiles Value plan is still a better deal than this prepaid plan. Its also a BYOD plan.

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[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
I understand but its automated to ask if you want to use the existing number which will automatically kill any plan associated with that number. I killed both a contract plan (wife) and a prepaid plan for this number I'm using now.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
It is under federal jurisdiction that a carrier release your number to be ported. It is illegal for them to hold your number (now, idk about back then)
[Nexus 4 General] hartleyshc:
It was law back then as well, but was unable to because it was a prepaid plan. But as I said this was a while ago.

Luckily it was confirmed above that you can in fact port to and from a prepaid number. Might have something to do with inner company transfers, or maybe at that time you didnt "own" your own prepaid number, or just an extremely uninformed sales rep (try to port in store) I was told I could port to go phone, but was not able to port out because it was a prepaid and not a traditional number.

So ignore all my previous statements.

(Except the one about the value plans, still a better deal than the prepaid.)

Sent from my Nexus 4, running Carbon Nightly + Matr1x Kernel v10
[Nexus 4 General] benjdm:
One sample makes for bad statistics, but I was able to port my number from Net10 prepaid to T-Mobile prepaid without any problems.

Not for me....I probably average about 30 minutes of talk time a month.
[Nexus 4 General] MacFett:
Where is this new plan? I don't see it in the my account app nor on their website. Any chance of getting a link for it?
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
It's not new...it's existed for a while lol.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I think the plan is $50 for 500 MB of data and $60 for 2.5 GB of data. http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans

I think there is some confusion in the posts above about the price of 2.5 GB data.

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[Nexus 4 General] hartleyshc:
With that low of talk time it probably is a better deal for you. We have the value family plan. 1000 shared mins (don't even come close to both of us using this) unlimited texts, I have true unlimited data, and she has the 5gb throttled (she's on an iPhone 4 as mentioned before, so no 3g for her). We pay around $70 a month for both lines. It will be $10 more for her to have truly unlimited once she upgrades to a new iPhone.

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[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
How did you get that? When I was looking through family plans two lines is $80, and that's not including data (besides that 500mb stuff).
[Nexus 4 General] neuroval:
Those are the old Value plans, no longer available for new customers
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Damn :(
[Nexus 4 General] bob60626:
That 50/2.5gig plan has to be a MetroPCS plan change over.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
http://www.refillmobi.net is back with $50 for $44.99. ;)

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[Nexus 4 General] reissgrant:
Called up customer service and there was an issue with my old phone account number. It only took a minute to fix it, then the number was ported while still on the phone with them.

Now my HTC One is working perfectly on this plan, using skype $3/month for calling; call quality is great on wifi, haven't tried on LTE/HSPA. Ran a speedtest this morning in Orlando and got 20mb down, 8mb up with 30ms ping. Can't complain!
[Nexus 4 General] jaestoner01:
Hi everybody ..< saying it with Dr. Nicks voice

I have the $30.00 plan and I can tell you that vonage does work and it doesn't used your minutes. I just got this plan and I kept going over the minutes so when I read this post (like 5min ago) I downloaded the vonage app with no minutes on my plan and it work.. thak much thanks to the person who started the post.. :):):):)
[Nexus 4 General] Moldygiraffe:
Do night and weekend calls count towards your 100 minutes?
[Nexus 4 General] neuroval:
Yes, 100 min means 100 min, I believe even calling your voicemail counts towards the 100
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Although there's no reason to call voice mail since the visual voice mail app is free.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
When porting over to this plan coming from Simple Mobile, is there a best time to start the port? I know you never really know how long the port can take, but if I start it tonight, is it likely to be finished until Monday? I'm wondering if I should just wait for Monday.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Simple Mobile is a T-Mobile MVNO, so they'll do what's called an in-house port. These take a lot less time.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Oh great, good to know! Thank you!!
[Nexus 4 General] Moldygiraffe:
Interesting. The T-Mobile employee told me the opposite... but I'll continue to ask people who actually use the plan and believe their word over someone trying to sell me something.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
What Pete said. They use minutes for wifi calls, voicemail calls, and google voice calls. You are not charged for 611 calls. Also keep in mind your minutes are rounded up, and start counting the minute you push send, or call. So if you talk for 1min 15 seconds you will be billed for 2 full minutes of use. Talk for 2:01 minutes, 3 full minutes are billed.
[Nexus 4 General] Moldygiraffe:
Thanks for the info.

When you mention "wifi calls", does that include calls made using third-party apps like Kakao, Viber, GrooveIP, etc.?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Methinks she meant TMO WIFI Calling app...some plans charged for minutes used, others didn't. Generally speaking, any data calling app like those you mention do NOT affect your minutes. I settled on Skype for the most natural sounding and reliable VOIP solution for me, $3/mo, and bought a Skype number for other non-Skype phones to call me...works perfectly.
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
Anyone get a call from "T-Mobile" lately? Got a call from an unknown number and I think the lady said she was calling from T-Mobile but couldn't really tell because she had a really strong accent. Billy I can think of why they would call me is because I was tethering my N7 to my N4 with this plan.
[Nexus 4 General] Moldygiraffe:
Great, that's exactly the (VOIP) solution I was looking into. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] reissgrant:
I use skype as well. I get great quality on 3g driving around town and of course wifi.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I tried Vonage, GrooveIP, Skype and others. Settled on Skype. Very happy with Nexus 4 and this plan with Skype.:D

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[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
I went ahead and took the plunge. I ported from Simple mobile to this plan. I was a bit afraid of the port taking long but I guess since it was an in-house port it was effective immediately.

Now I signed up for Skype's $3/a month deal but I can't get the Caller ID to setup. It says they will send me 2 verification texts but I'm not getting them. I am able to receive texts from other numbers, not sure what's going on. I'll try again.
[Nexus 4 General] TangoXray:
Unfortunately, my data speeds here aren't as fast as some of yours. I had to jump back to ATT. I was having no luck using Skype or Vonage off of my phones data. Plus I work in really rural places, which didn't help any. Too bad, I would really love to be using this plan!

Thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread.
[Nexus 4 General] ROORnNUGZ:
Data Roaming

I was camping this weekend and had my nexus 4 with me. I am on the $30 plan and I was roaming on what I believe was att voice network with no data just had a r or g where it usually says h+. Two friends of mine also had their phones with the new $70 unlimited plan. Their phones were roaming on att 4g network, it even said att on the lockscreen. Does prepay not allow this or am I just not set up correctly? I found a couple setting that said check to enable roaming data and national roaming data but that did nothing. Thanks for any replies.
[Nexus 4 General] bob60626:
Interestingly enough, I've been roaming on AT&T, GCI, and 311370 here in Alaska with few dead spots so far. Voice and sms only, though.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Try using the call instead of the text. It happened with one time too. The texts arrived hours later. I don't know why? Also, if you get the Skype number, it will reset your caller id to that number. So, make sure the caller id is your number.

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[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Mmm I don't see that option? Just text.... maybe it's somewhere else where I'm not looking. Thanks for the heads up, at the moment I'm not looking to get a Skype number
[Nexus 4 General] benjdm:
This plan doesn't allow for roaming data.
[Nexus 4 General] ROORnNUGZ:
thanks

ok cool thanks for the info
[Nexus 4 General] wylde31:
Can someone clarify if Google Voice voicemail works with any TMo plan? It hasn't been supported by Verizon (always tells me it wasn't added) but I've never had an issue using it.
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
You cannot use it for T-Mobile prepaid
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
I contacted them via live chat and they said it could take 24 hours. Is that accurate? Seems amazing to me that a big company like Skype is giving me this problem.
[Nexus 4 General] fleury14:
Not 100% correct although the workaround is having T-Mobile turning off your vm service and only using your gv number.

I ported my number into Google voice when I signed up for this plan and don't use the t-mobile number at all.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Refillmobi back in stock. $28.99
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
I'm trying to move another line on Verizon to T-Mobile. The problem (at least I think it is an issue) is that the line I am moving is the primary line. All the lines are out of contract and on month to month now. Is it possible to port the primary line number to tmobile while keeping the other 2 "sub" lines out of contract and on the month to month?
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Yes, it takes almost 24 hours. You set the process rolling today. You will get the notification tomorrow. Once it is done, then it is done.

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AFAIK each line has its individual contract. So you can treat then individually if they are out of contract. You can easily check that by either talking to a Verizon Rep on the phone or in one of their shops.

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[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Thank you. I'll wait and see, I think the 24 hours would be up around 1 or 2pm.

However, I've tried other services though like for example setting up alerts for my Amex card or PayPal, it says they sent the code to my phone but .. no codes received. Last night I contacted T-Mobile they said there were no blocks on short codes or anything, the lady refreshed my account settings but this doesn't seem to have helped. Is this a T-Mobile issue? Does anyone know? Thank you very much.
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Gvoice vmail works just fine for me.
[Nexus 4 General] fleury14:
Additionally, if you plan on using only your Google voice number I'd recommend picking up an Obi box to use in the house. Only runs $30 and you hook up a regular phone to it and you don't use any minutes. I found that the majority of the time I was making long calls at home and this solved any problems I could have had regarding the 100 minute allocation.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Did you try a test text with the T-Mobile Rep? They should be able to troubleshoot the issue?

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[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Did you update GTalk to Hanogouts? There were early reports that the Obi boxes weren't working with Hangouts.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
I chatted with them again this morning... they had me remove the battery, restart the phone, etc. but he didn't send a test text. He pretty much told me I had to call in and speak with a specialist. I'm swamped at work and it's easier to do the live chat thing but it seems this goes beyond that. I tried uninstalling other apps that maybe could interfere (MightyText) but same results.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
Are you sure because the primary line is listed as around $100 while the other 2 are something like $25. To me that makes it seem like canceling the primary line would also cancel the other 2 since they are listed kind of like additions to the $100 line.
[Nexus 4 General] neod192:
Call VZW and have them make one of the other numbers the primary number (line). They should be able to do that without any changes/extensions to your now-expired contract. Then you can port the # and not worry about VZW terminating the contract.
[Nexus 4 General] fleury14:
Yup works fine
[Nexus 4 General] cutterjohn:
AFAICT it certainly does. I received SMS from T-Mobile about roaming in Canada and the approximate rates.
[Nexus 4 General] amonymous:
how to add "buffer" minutes?

Hi, I've read about people adding extra "buffer" minutes to the plan, in case we run over our 100 minutes/month limit. I was wondering, is this still possible to do? I tried adding "refill" funds through the my.t-mobile site, but nothing gets added to my account, and then I did a chat with customer service, and the guy said it wasn't possible to add minutes to this plan. So does anyone know if we can still buy extra minutes like people have done in the past, and if so how? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
If you buy a $10 refill, add to your account, it's not enough to keep the plan going for the next month. Add your regular $30 refill for the month, And that $10 will constantly roll over unless you use it on minutes.

I have $75 in my account. It will renew my account, and drop to $45, then the next renew it will drop to $15 unless I have used any for extra minutes, then whatever left will be the balance. Again, not enough to renew, so add $30, the extra will roll over.

I don't know why the csr didn't know this. I always get refills with pins, so they are loaded directly to the account. Thru calling mart, or ebay, or other sites that sell refills.
[Nexus 4 General] benjdm:
I didn't know that, awesome. I assume the SMS is giving you options to pay for more data or is it telling you what roaming data you get that is already included in the $30/month? I know when my wife went to Canada she didn't get any data on this plan.

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I believe you add extra $, so that when you do go over 100 minutes at $0.10 a minute there is money in the account to cover it.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
I purchased an additional $10 via Callingmart and they were added to my account without a problem.

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On another note, I haven't been able to setup anything while using this plan. I can't setup Caller ID for Skype because I still am not receiving the codes. I spent about 30 min on the phone last night with a rep who said everything looked 'great' and that he was submitting a report with their engineers. Besides Skype, I've tried PayPal, Amex and Chase and I'm not able to receive their codes at all.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
All of this is pointing towards the setup on your phone. Call T-Mobile again and make sure the settings on your phone ate correct to receive texts. Search the web for the problem if you haven't done so. Best of luck.

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[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Thanks but other than the apn settings I'm not sure what other changes are supposed to be made. I'm able to text with people ( send & receive), I can make and receive calls and I can use data. I'll try to talk to them again.
[Nexus 4 General] Karnier:
What kind of VOIP application do you guys use? And is there a way to automatically turn off data when you connect to wifi? Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
I use Vonage app and Groove app . They work good ..Yes you can automatically turn off data when you connected to WiFi using Tasker or automelt or lama
[Nexus 4 General] DaveinAsia:
Same here - Groove IP and Vonage (in order of preference). Callers on the other end comment that call quality on Vonage calls break up a little less, but that there is more echo. On GrooveIP there is a setting to correct call echo but I haven't found a similar setting for Vonage.

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[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
I've tried Skype and Vonage. Skype disconnected the call and I've noticed sometimes it goes in offline mode even though my connection is still active. Vonage seems to work ok - minor lag - and the positive thing is that it shows your number in the caller ID.

So far I've been very displeased with T-Mobile. I signed up on Sunday and I'm still unable to receive certain codes - not necessarily short codes but verification codes like trying to setup my Caller ID for Skype. Skype investigated the issue as well and they got back to me stating that the codes were getting denied by T-Mobile. T-Mobile says the investigation is still in progress.
[Nexus 4 General] bob60626:
I'm finally using voip on this plan, Vonage on an i717. Voip's never been useful on anything pre-LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] Karnier:
Does tasker/automelt/lama work on android 4.3?
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Yesterday I received a text from T-Mobile and they finally fixed my issue with short codes. I'm happy that now I'm set and I'll be able to try out this plan in full.

I've also noticed my data speeds are not that much different then when I was with Simple Mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Tasker works for me
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Same for me.

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[Nexus 4 General] XxLostSoulxX:
If I buy a $30 refill card and will it add another 5gb and 100 minutes?
[Nexus 4 General] skadoo323:
Please keep us posted on if they are finally working for you. Appreciate it!
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Short codes? Yes, they started working yesterday as soon as I received the message from T-Mobile. I'm assuming it was one of their engineers, they texted me directly and told me short codes should work. I was able to setup everything I needed. Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] skadoo323:
Awesome, that's great to hear. This was one of my concerns as well. Appreciate it.
[Nexus 4 General] Heelpir8:
No. It'll add credit that's deducted from whenever you enter a new billing cycle and gain a fresh 5gb of 4G data and 100 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
I think you can call and change your billing cycle to restart new if you have run out of minutes and data.

Some people say no, but I have read many people have done it. If you just ran out of minutes, you can add a $10 refil to get you thru till the next bill cycle starts again.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
The few last times I've used Skype, the other person has had a hard time understanding me. Also, my calls get disconnected. It sucks, but I think I'm definitely going to stick to this plan, saving money is always good.
[Nexus 4 General] tool_462:
Has anyone had issues with MMS? I seem to get picture messages in "bulk" all at once. They seem to pile up for a few days and then all come. When I send them it often just says Sending... indefinitely. I've messed with all the APN settings on various forums to no avail.

I also seem to be on Edge network WAY more than when I was previously on T-Mobile with my old Galaxy S. Almost never get 3G at my house (middle of nowhere) and I used to get it in a few spots nearby.
[Nexus 4 General] DustinJ:
Just got on this plan and loving it! No issues thus far!
[Nexus 4 General] XxLostSoulxX:
It's all great and dandy however if you watch one Netflix movie it consumes about a gig. Data can easily be used in no time
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Did anyone made any changes to hit above 15mbps speed in 4g area ??

This post - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42617272

Explains about it but I cannot find that file
[Nexus 4 General] SpookyTunes:
Check out this post: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1805211-Frustrating-speed-limit-on-my-T-Mobile-Number

I too have been hit by this limit. All speed tests now seem capped at 15 Mbps.