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[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
garyyager- :D Hilarious! Although I have to say my experiences with csr was stellar. Got what I needed and ported my paygo to 4g monthy painlessly, And when I checked up on what was done expecting it to be all wrong I was surprised- pleasantly. All right as requested.

But loved the humor. I'm sure lots of people get the run around.
[Nexus 4 General] p.johanna:
TMO $30 plan MMS on GV Nexus 4

I just found something interesting. I ported my # to GV based on the information that MMS doesn't work. I got on the TMO prepaid $30 plan. I downloaded Whatsapp because of reading on the web that MMS does not work on GV. The drawback is that my contacts need to use the app. Today I tested this out.

My sister is on Verizon using an iPhone 5. I used her phone to send myself a picture to the native messaging app of my Nexus 4 using my GV # and it worked. I then replied with a picture and she received it. I have done nothing special in regards to setting and my phone is directly from Google. Just an FYI.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Did you receive the message inside of the GV app? AFAIK this has never been possible even with Sprint (the only service that GV supports MMS with). And how did you send a picture via the GV app (it doesn't support attaching files)?
[Nexus 4 General] flaviocc:
guys,

i´ll be in NY for vacation (december / im from brazil). I wanna 2 pre paid plans:

1 - to my wife just voice or text to me

2 - to me to call (to my wife), text and data to emails, whatsapp, foursquare etc.

whats the best value/function choice??

tks.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
The $30 plan. They'll assign you guys random numbers. When you leave you don't have to cancel. Just don't refill the accounts. 100 minutes, unlimited texting and 5GB of data (HSPA+ and LTE), with unlimited EDGE afterwards. The HSPA+ frequencies are 1700/2100 MHz, but in most areas they've moved to the more standard 1900/2100 MHz. EDGE is 850/1900 MHz. LTE is 1700/2100 MHz.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 4 General] flaviocc:
Tks,

we have here one Tmobile chip (bought this year / january in Orlando), do you know if its possible to reactivate this number? Or it is canceled after a time without recharging?

and other help if possible, to use via wifi (to speak with Brazil), which is better? Google voice or skype?

tks ! :good:
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
What does everyone use in APN settings Under APN type ?

Is blank best or .... Jw
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
If wifi is good then you can use Vonage app is good
[Nexus 4 General] flaviocc:
That:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vonage.TimeToCall

if i understood i can put credits via google play to call worldwide. is this ?

tks.
[Nexus 4 General] p.johanna:
I tried right now to make sure. I used my GV# from her cell and sent a picture. The picture was sent to the native messaging app and yes I have the GV app. Again it went to the native messaging app of the Nexus 4. From the same thread (reply) I returned a picture and it showed my GV #. I tried a new MMS text message from the native messaging app and it was sent with the TMO prepaid number.

I'm able to do it.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
It sounds like you are sending from the native messaging app. If that is the case and the receiver has GV as well, it will change the numbers so it appears from your GV #. But you are really sending it from your native phone number. The GV app can't even show pictures. So you must be viewing it in the native messaging app.
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
If your wife has a smartphone then credits not required..

If your wife does not have smartphone then to call, you can see which cheaper Vonage or skype

You need to buy credits in the Vonage app itself
[Nexus 4 General] p.johanna:
In all seriousness I really dislike when people tell other people what they are doing. I have no reason to make this up, none.

I first used her iPhone 5 on Verizon. I have had this plan for three months now and never gave the TMO # to anyone. She does not use GV at all. I used her native messaging app to send myself a picture. I received the picture in my native messaging app. I replied to the same text with a picture and she received it with my GV# (I had both phones to verify).

I tried to just use the native app before and it does the TMO prepaid number, which I don't want anyone to have, I don't want to use it.
[Nexus 4 General] flaviocc:
ok....she have a smartphone too. But the vonage is interesting to call to brazil !

to speak with my wife believe tmobile is better option as it will use the phone in the street (in case we need to find us).

But to talk with Brazil is an option. I will compare with skype rates.... and google voice works ok over wifi ??

Tks.
[Nexus 4 General] falcon26:
Dam no more code for a free sim :) I wanted to get one more for my sister...
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
So I was correct and you never used the GV app to send a MMS. I don't see what you are so upset about. You can't send MMS through GV unless you are on Sprint. What you did does not prove that you can since you didn't use GV to send or receive the MMS.
[Nexus 4 General] p.johanna:
I'm not upset.

The issue I have read on the net and what I had was that some of us want to only use the phone number we have on Google Voice. Because I was misinformed, I downloaded an app to send pictures, unfortunately the contacts had to have the same app. Today I sent myself a picture (MMS) from a Verizon iPhone to my Google Voice number. The picture showed up in the native messaging app. I used the same thread (in other words replied) and sent a picture and it showed up with my Google Voice #.

If I am not mistaken, people state one cannot receive MMS to their GV #, but I have.

You are correct, the GV app does not allow the sending of a picture nor receiving it, but the importance to me is that I did receive a picture sent to my GV# and when I sent a reply picture it showed my GV# and not the phone's #.
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Google voice is just a call management service ( call forwarding, voice mail, sms etc) it's not like Vonage, talkatone or skype from which you can make calls.. You can buy credits from Google voice to make international calls but you need some service to make those calls (like t-mobile) but from a desktop you can make calls
[Nexus 4 General] flaviocc:
Thank you.

In that case google voice for me its ok.

I´ll just make calls to brazil when I´m on apartment with wifi (did not necessary make calls from street to Brazil). In that case it´s ok to make a call from a laptop.

I just don´t know about google voice quality compared with skype, you know?

Tks ! :good:
[Nexus 4 General] intheb0x:
Vonage Is great for wifi not for hspa + lol
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
any of these VOIP services also have MMS ?

Vonage = free 3000 minutes, nice

google voice = awesome but only ONE number (booo) and NO MMS

line2 = has MMS and everything, but costs

skype = costs no mms

PBX = PITA and no MMS :)

I'm looking to get a phone line + MMS, that has call forwarding.

Any other solutions out there?

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Or even LTE...oddly, I have major issues with Vonage. Call audio goes dead midcall, sometimes becomes staccato or caller reports completely unable to understand me. I've had several people simply hang up on me when the audio dies...they think I've already ended the call. Wifi seems to work fine. Decided to spring for Skype phone number for a year ($30) and go with Skype for VOIP...at least it works.
[Nexus 4 General] intheb0x:
Hmm skype work like vonage? I just found out oovoo does the same thing and they claim the best quality optimized to your connection speed,

Anyone wanna be a tester of that?

Their rates are very fair 1.8 cents a minute to any number in the us, sounds good to me but I have no cash to add to it, but it may be a good alternative to people who run out of mins or want to use it for outgoing.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Yep...uses data-only (no phone plan minutes). My point was that Skype sounds fine in my experience..just like another phone call, to both parties despite whatever data connection it gets. I have the $2.99/mo Unlimited USA/Canada plan (discounted to $30 annual), and now the $30 Skype number (50% off of annual) which can even ring my Nexus 7 tab, so it can ring across all of my signed-on devices on its own number.
[Nexus 4 General] intheb0x:
So just using Skype to make calls it's 2.99, but to get calls from any phone land line or mobile you get a Skype number? That's a good price, I'm curious how it sounds on 4g hspa or better yet edge.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
I don't think I've ever tried on an edge connection..I would expect quite a bit of delay, but still better than Vonage.

I think you can add a few Skype credits and sign up using the free ID to test call quality...and upgrade to a full Skype number and unlimited annual plan after your testing.
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
It's different kind of experience for me with vonage.. I can easily make clear calls on h+.. I never had above problems.. I am not saying your wrong but just sharing my experience
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
News Flash: T-Mobile refill is available at http://refillmobi.net/ again.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] flaviocc:
And abour Google voice (using from wifi computer) compare to skype ?

My choices are: GV, Skype, Vonage or Oovoo
[Nexus 4 General] melo1819:
Do you know any other sites like this?
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
This plan kicks a$$
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
prepaid-refill.com

talkatone..
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
I don't think talkatone has mms. Or a phone number.

I have the $30 a month plan. Not enough minutes. I have a google voice line. Works some, has no MMS. Works some, but, can only have ONE google number forwarding to my $30 a month plan.

I thus want a phone thingy that:

a) is not google voice (because I want two numbers for different groups to call, e.g. personal and work)

b) Is NOT my $30 a month line, as I want to keep that unknown / able to switch carriers if I want.

c) Ideally has MMS.

d) can come with a phone number

e) has unlimited wifi calling

So, all these solutions give me unlimited wifi calling ...

1) vonage I can get a numbe, $25 a month, no thanks.

2) skype, $6 no mms

3) line2 $10 month, no mms

Any other solutions that come with a phone number, unlimited wifi calling, and anything with MMS?

Ideally, i want like, two full cell phone numbers that both pass through to my cell phone.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
Read through some of thishttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=25925709
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
Yep, contributed there some and I've read probably 180 of the 200+ pages. Most is centered around google voice, with PBX's, SO .... not relevant to my question, which is how to NOT use google voice, and how to get a NEW SECOND line, and, MMS.

Its a great thread, just centered on google voice, and not really on other, second line alternatives.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Outside of the NSA monitors (they monitor ALL services), what is your aversion to Skype?
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
no mms, but, no one has suggested / I haven't found a solution yet WITH MMS .....

and not an aversion, just, wish I didn't have to pay for the minutes to get a phone number. other things discussed in this thread talktone, most of the apps, etc.. can get free VOIP over wifi ... what I need more is a phone number, ideally with MMS. Skype does seem the cheapest options I've seen so far ...
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
What, precisely, do you use MMS for? If you want to send voice messages and pics to a person using data, I'd highly recommend Voxer app. This app alone has nearly overtaken my need for a calling plan.
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
well, sometimes girls send me pictures, and they use MMS, and crazy enough, sometimes they send me pics even when they don't know me well enough to use email instead of MMS, well, stuff like that.

:)

Srsly, everyone I know heavily uses MMS, i've got 4 nephews and nieces, and their parents, and their grandparents (my parents) all send pics of the kids via MMS, and, its just too hard to teach the WHOLE WORLD to use email instead of that handy MMS ....
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Yeah..Voxer requires smartphones (Android/Iphones)...tell your peeps to upgrade! LOL! :)
[Nexus 4 General] falcon26:
I have both a T Mobile $30 plan and my normal At&t plan contract plan (Which I may be cancelling which is why I am doing the T Mobile $30 plan test). When I do a speed test. T Mobile gets about 13MB down and about 3MB up and a ping of about 60MS. At&t gets about 3MB down and 1MB up and about 90MS ping. In my area T Mobile is faster by far. But with that said, coverage wise At&t beats T Mobile in my area hands down. 50% of the town I'm in gets almost no signal with T Mobile. Where as At&t is covered pretty much 100%. So do I want faster speeds or better coverage :) dam it
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
That is right. But no T-Mobile deals at this time. Calling Mart is always there. At least you save tax there, if your state has sales tax.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] falcon26:
Also does anyone know if a At&t HTC One X will work with the T Mobile $30 Microsim?
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
1) Do you have wifi where you will use your phone the most? (home?) if so, the faster speeds are wasted most of the time

2) When you say "no signal for Tmo" do you mean no VOICE calls / signal, or just slow edge data?

3) How much voice do you need? If you DO have voice but no data in most of the town, then you'll be using up your 100 minutes, IF you talk a lot. Me, I call more than I get (e.g. can usually call mom or whomever back when I get back to home wifi) so I don't use much minutes outside of home.

IMO ... you probably want better coverage than faster speeds. Might look into straight talk, ATT MNVO, 45 unlimited plan ?

Good luck!
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
If it is unlocked. Then yes.
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
If it does not have WCDMA on 1700/2100 then it will be on edge unless your in a refarmed area.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Ya . HTC one does not have 1700
[Nexus 4 General] xur17:
I get about 5-6 people a year that send me mms messages that I don't receive on my Google Voice number. I just tell them that I don't get mms messages, and mention that they can always email it to me. Recently my friend sent a group sms that went out as mms from his android device. I said I didn't get it, and showed him how to disable that functionality (he said he didn't want it anyways). Missing a few mms messages a year is without a doubt worth all of the extra features that Google Voice has, but if you miss a lot of messages, I can understand it not being worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Also worth mentioning that you do get mms from people on Sprint, even if they're not using Google voice integration. It comes through as an email automatically.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
So after you use 5gb , is it's only edge then ?
[Nexus 4 General] lensgrabber:
Quick question guys. Is anyone using the $30 plan for a data only device such as the Nexus 7 T-Mobile version?
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
you would need their data only plans, they dont allow a the nexus 7 on this plan. But the nexus 7 cant rally make phone calls to begin with, I dont know if you activated the sim in the phone then swapped it over if it it would work, there is a thread in teh nexus 7 about this, just search around you should find it.

Other than that their tablet plans it would cost fifty a month for 5gbs
[Nexus 4 General] lensgrabber:
Thanks I'll check around on the N7 forums. I activated it on a ATT Galaxy S3 and it works but is slow most of the time. We are refarmed in the area but still get edge most of the time near the house. I'll eventually get a phone that supports full tmobile bands but for now was curious whether or not a tablet would work okay.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
I'm pretty positive it will work fine.
[Nexus 4 General] lensgrabber:
Other posts in the N7 forum say a big NO. That's a bummer. If I ever get a chance to test one out with this sim I will and let you guys know what happens if the sim was activated on a phone then switched to a tablet. I'll go under the assumption that it will not work though.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1996268
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
I've been using this plan with a tablet but it isn't a data only device.

If you buy the Asus Fonepad, for example, it should work with this plan. It is basically the same thing as a Nexus 7 but is also a phone. It wouldn't have the 1700 band, I guess.
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
Just to clarify, the Note 2 (GT-N7105) nor Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), will not get 3G, HSPA+, nor LTE on T-Mobile.. correct?

I used the Note 2 (GT-N7105) and it was on edge the whole time. :(
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Correct. Until the cycle renews.
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
What?

If you are talking about att version of the note2 or the att version of the s4 they will get both hspa and lte on tmobile.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2068041

Though getting LTE will depend on if your in a LTE market. T mobile has hspa on 1700/2100 normally with some on 1900 in the refarmed areas, att version of phones have 1700 locked out in software but with both phones you have listed there is a way to unlock those frequencies.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Correct. But you'll get EDGE and actually you will get HSPA+ and 3G in areas where T-Mobile has switched to 1900 MHz. You can use http://airportal.de to check if you're in one of those areas. But you'll never get LTE.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
Nope. Talking about the "international" versions of both the S4 and the Note 2. International Note 2 in my area is stuck on edge. It's pretty brutal :crying:

---------- Post added at 07:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 PM ----------

Thank you for the fast reply.

But this is harsh lol. Stuck on edge network in my new area. I hope the Note 3 comes out soon... Edge is endangering my sanity :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
ah, yes that sucks.
[Nexus 4 General] ogatec:
since u get umlimited txts with this plan give out that # for texting mms. otherwise tell them to mms to your email..so instead of your number have them put your email into the number field on the mms.. thier mms will go to your email inbox. you can test it out yourself to see if it works for you
[Nexus 4 General] MrsKravitz:
I don't know why they make it so damn difficult to get basic information. I finally found this under "Refill FAQs" after I signed in to my account:

Here is the section on Gold Rewards:

When you choose a refill amount, all the amounts except $100 say they are available for 90 days. $100 is available for 365 days. The deal is that once you have Gold Rewards status, then any refill amount will be available for 365 days.

I have no idea how to find that FAQs section if you're not signed into an account. That whole website gives me a headache. I hope these details help you, though.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
I believe that once you've reached $100 in refills, not counting your first to start the account (or if you do a $100 refill in one shot), you reach Gold Rewards, which means that your refills last for a year. However, we're on the $30 Monthly 4G plan, so I don't think that applies to us.

This is for plans where you throw money on the account and every time you make a call or text, it's deducted from the account balance (e.g. 15 cents a minute or however much it is deducted from whatever you refilled your account with).
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
I had this before I converted to monthly 4g- once you get your gold status, your $$ is good for 365 days, and you can roll over the $$ by refilling any dollar amount before the 365th day- after that day all your $$ expires. Before the 365th day, a simple $10 refill will roll over the balance and your good for the next 365 days.

Once on a monthly prepaid plan, gold reward status no longer applies, but supposedly, if you were gold rewards before your change, you should revert back to gold if you go back to payg without having to hit that $100 again. So they say......:D
[Nexus 4 General] xor_mind:
Will I have to buy a new card after 30 days, even if I have minutes in data left?
[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Yup
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Well so far I'm at about 5.6gb . they don't seem to give you edge after.

However you cannot download/update apps
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
As u can see with hardly any signal
[Nexus 4 General] intheb0x:
On red pocket now 2399 unlimited talk text and 100mb Web att mvno much better service with my Optimus g
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
You're comparing 5GB of LTE data with 100 MB of throttled 3G data? Really? The price on that plan should be $10 a month, not $24.
[Nexus 4 General] intheb0x:
Because it's a much better plans for me and it's 4g hspa att 21 not 3g,while tmobile is NOT lte and barely hspa so it's really 2g, so most people are stuck on 3g with tmobile but probably a majority 2g like me, tmobile simply sucks for me, with my Optimus g I'm either on edge or hspa 21 because only some towers here are refarmed. Which is mind boggling that in such a big city that only a few towers are refarmed.

And red Pocket is a att mvno that's using att's 4g network which is by far more reliable and more accessible than tmobiles cramed edge network an to say that it's LTE is basically like sprint with there 4g "wimax", claiming it's so great and vast when in reality barely anyone has it.

Now if tmobile ever gets lte here in Milwaukee wi, THEN the plan will be well worth the cost but for most the refarming is a joke and more of a gimmick in my eyes.

I have tested it for over a month, all over town and most of the city is not refarmed and no lte is present, with att 4g is everywhere, and a better, Faster more reliable network, here in my area.

I suggest you learn more about red pocket, which is probably one of the most affordable att mvnos, which is not 3g or throttled like you said, and is a bargain at that price for unlimited talk, text and some data, you can't find a more comparable priced plan anywhere and you won't be able to find anything unlimited talk and text WITHOUT data for under 25, better yet under 30.

Now if tmobile was lte here and not edge, things would be quite different, but if there lte set up is anything like there "refarming" it's doomed to fail, with only select parts of the city on it and most on edge/3g.

My idea was to get on the tmobile plan and use the data network to place most of my calls with vonage, groove ip or similar but since the network I so shotty and the 100 mins is nothing it's really not worth it at all, I'd rather have a cap then edge service that barely works and voice mins to talk.

But like I said, once lte hits here (if ever) ,it will be well worth the 30,even if you have to spend a extra 20 dollars for a total of 50 for 300 mins, unlimited text and 5gb of data will be a good deal with the actual ability do great voip calls if the lte is really good like they claim, but if it's anything like there "refarming", I'll probably pass because it's garbage and barely accessible in even a large city like Milwaukee where they claim was a original "test market" with 90%of the city on edge and 3g in 2013 is pathetic.

I wouldn't call it a lte when mist of tmobiles network isn't lte. That's just a marketing gimmick like sprint with there "first 4g claims where barely anyone ever got it.
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
Quick question:

I got a quick question, hopefully some of you have experienced this.

After 5 GB of data, T-Mobile will throttle your speeds to 2G or whatever. Does this mean they kick me off 3G/HSPA+ network and forced to be on Edge? OR I can still be on the 3G/HSPA+ network but have speeds equivalent of Edge?
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
The latter.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 4 General] Telemachus13:
Where are you getting 100MB for $24? According to http://goredpocket.com/plans/ the cheapest unlimited is $30 with 10 MB.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Dude there is no red pocket mobile $24 plan