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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheLawIX:
Thanks bud. Yeah I think slimbean is amazing too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Btw wow, 4 million thread views, quite astonishing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] miguepereira77:
So... It's you??? :p

https://m.facebook.com/#!/ProgrammersCreateLife?ref=stream&__user=769064307

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
It seems you don't use your phone often, most of the time it looks like it's idle. So CPU usage would not affect the battery usage much.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
Yep, ok. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
It makes sense that I wouldn't get 6 hours of screen time, but to not be able to get a few is crazy. In my phone's defense, I was up in SF without wifi all day. So far today I have 18 minutes of screen time, 5.5 hours on battery, terrible signal, and 87% battery. That's pretty good if you ask me. Maps sucks up power at random, but I'm working on fixing it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Fedburin:
Franco's app or built in from whatever ROM i am running.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Devilman539:
I'm not going to start a flame war and simply state that standby boosting (100% charge before sleeping) does not count and is completely irrelevant. You do the community a disservice by posting these false positives and give everyone that isn't aware of these stat boosting tricks a complex that their device is flawed when it is in fact functioning properly. Stay on topic please and avoid being reported for stupid things.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DroidBlaze:
Everybody just chill out. Everybody uses their phone differently. Different activities have a different impact on your battery life depending on how cpu/gpu intensive that activity is and not to mention other factors such as settings and screen on time. To try and compare or copy someone else's battery life is just stupid. Enjoy your awesome Nexus4 with this beastly kernel and stop cluttering this thread with useless posts about battery life and or some other drama :cool:

Franco, r20 has been fantastic on my phone. I bought your app just to show some support even though I don't use it. I am a kernel whore and have tried them all but no matter what I keep coming to your kernel. Simply amazing and can't wait to see what's to come.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mrcanant:
This sounds like awesome battery time!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] calanizzle:
R20 best battery life till now
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Ditto.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mobilehavoc:
Completely agree. If you charge to 100% and then sleep for 12 hours your end results will be skewed. Most people will usually charge overnight and unplug in the morning. They'll start using it right away.

The only thing that matters is screen on time + voice calls + media server. Basically your usage of the phone. Standby time is bogus if you have the ability to leave it alone for 12 hours at a time. Most people can't.

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I believe you but you are probably doing something that uses little data and CPU like reading a book. On my Nexus 7 I can easily bet 5-6 hours or screen on time but yesterday I read a book and I got almost a total of 10 hrs screen time and 2 days standby. This is not normal but the point is posting screen on time alone isn't the full picture. Playing a game or reading a book both equal screen time but are completely different.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lakino:
Lol. You shouldn't even use this phone. Go get yourself a cheap 2g phone with 384mhz as top speed.

I want a fast phone with features I can actually use. I use Gmail syncing. FB syncing. Currents syncing. Absolutely I use AdAway. I don't want to see crappy ads everywhere. I install any apps I find useful and necessary for my needs. I certainly will not lower to 2g when I'm paying for 4g. And I actually do use wi-fi frequently when at home. I have great 4g signal as well. Tower is within walking distance to my home. All that said, when I'm actually using it non-stop, it won't last more than 4hrs.. Most of the time 3 hrs or so.

And I come from battery background--not phone background. I advise you all to recharge as often as possible. Don't wait days to let your battery drop to very low levels before charging. If it's down to 50% and you're near a charging source, CHARGE! Lithium rechargeable batteries like to be recharged often. There is no memory affect. Your battery life will actually decrease if you constantly charge when the battery level is very low. Charge often and charge with lower charging units as opposed to fast chargers. Whenever possible, I use an older Motorola AC charger which outputs 500ma as opposed to the 1000ma AC chargers from LG or HTC. When I really must have fast charge, then I'll use the LG/HTC AC chargers. Overnight when I sleep, I'm always using the slower Moto charger. It's gentler on your battery and will help it last longer.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kioshi:
People just need to lighten up. I'm on car forums and we see numerous repeat questions asked and multiple threads of the same thing discussed.

Life moves on, but people seem to take that repeat question out of proportion..be glad we have a forum to even discuss.

Its an acceptable excuse for me and others, imo. People have lives outside of xda. We do multiple other hobbies besides hacking phones/theme-ing.

One mistake once in a while for a non active member isn't the end of the world where they need to shoot down the person..:rolleyes:

Appreciate that sincerely. Thank you.

From now on, everyone just do full screencaps of their battery page, where it shows all apps running and at what percentage...that'll help the non believers that we werent staring at the screen for 4 hours...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tech_Boy:
Yeah sometimes I don't, it's very off and on. Use it when I need it ;) still way better than stock for me.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] leets4uc3:
This is the last few pages of this thread.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fluffenforliberty:
Hey hey hey, stop *****ing, it's chrismas god damnit :laugh:

Why not have a governor debate, why ondemand or why interactive. People have different experiences it seems like. For me Interactive is the smoothest. How about you guys?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kioshi:
LMAO @ Vangelis13

I prefer interative. I still see a small lag when pulling down the notification bar. It might be the PA rom.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lakino:
Exactly. I think your battery is quite normal. If you ever get a chance, test it out by fully charging your battery then just continually use it like a tablet. Do that for like a 3 hr block on a Sunday afternoon, or maybe Sat morning. See if it'll last up to 3 hrs of continued use with screen on. If it does, then you have a normal, non-defective battery.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
You can tell that the parents are in bed after a long day and the children have all eaten too many chocolates this evening.:rolleyes:

Let's hope for more sense tomorrow
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lakino:
Here here. Completely correct.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
None at all on minco + r20..

Couple of calm whiskies, actually. You're right though, we have to stop this nonsense. I'm hereby burying the war axe.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
I have an Asus N56VM, it has a USB fast charging port, basically, if I plug my phone in to it, it detects the laptop as an AC power source even if the laptop is completely off! How do you like that?! No need for USB fast charge here! :D Oops, turns out I need usb fast charge enabled...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tkalli:
and 29,212 threads.

:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fauzi_91:
This thread deserved it..thx for ur hardwork on keeping up to build this amazing kernel! :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Audioboxer:
Now that's inspiration whenever the trolls/time wasters arise!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mo'HAWK:
I think we reach account for 10k views....Or at least I am.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pikachukaki:
The tweaks and extra features roms provide have to do anything with battery consumption? PA features or aokp features consumes battery?i have a great idle battery but as soon as i use the phone on fb or xda app the battery line goes down like hell!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
My governor control settings keep changing between these two, has anyone else experienced this?

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
That's because the values are changing depending on the active cores number and the app is showing the values at the moment you tap the option.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Is supposed to be so.

Nexus 4, stock kernel, last Franco.kernel nightly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Well my battery life has been fine with r666 and CM10.1 my screen on at 100% brightness is anywhere from 2-3.5 hours and it lasts all day from 7am until 11pm also I've UV by 150mv

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel

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BTW your signature says stock kernel with latest Franco nightly and Franco kernel is a kernel so your bit running a stock kernel :o

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Oh! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Obviously it should say stock ROM

Thanks! :thumbup:

Nexus 4, stock ROM, last Franco.kernel nightly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Stylez Ray.:
4 mil views on this thread. This should show everybody how serious franco means it with his kernel!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 75markus:
crazy, let´s go for another 4 :cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Lets try another r666.

Besides all my changes I also implemented the LED triggering code from Semaphore Kernel. So far it tracks temperature and it shows a red led light starting from 47ºC up to 62ºC. The light intensity changes based on the temperature. Its quite fancy.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jaggyjags:
Battery or cpu temperature?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 75markus:
because it will be asked, and franco doesn´t mind, here´s the flashable zip
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 75markus:
crazy stuff :p

i thought something was wrong after booting up, LMAO ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Does the light stay on all of the time when the temp is between 42° and 62°?

N7/N4 - CM10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nachordez:
Fun!

:thumbup:

Nexus 4, stock ROM, last Franco.kernel nightly
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RiThBo:
It seems to take much longer to open an app after touching the icon. There is a noticeable delay between touching the icon and the animation starting. (Even if the app is in multitasking/recents)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tlf55:
Is there a way to disable it ? What's new a part this Led triggering in this new r666 ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Allosaur:
For the first time I really want my n4 run hot to see what happens... crazy leds. Got to see them!

Incidentally, I can't undervolt as much with the new r666. Was going -175 but now have to stop at -150.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
CPU.

Yes.

Not here.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Any way to disable it ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Don't know. Its just for testing at the moment anyway, its not a big deal.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Allosaur:
Running smooth here. No lag despite capping max frequency at 1GHz. Even swype is responsive.

Nice work guys.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Sweet, if you implement this in the future nightlies please let us have the option to turn it off/on.

btw the latest 666 is running so smooth.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 75markus:
smooth here, too :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
Is cpu0 supposed to ramp up to 1026 MHz on touch with this build as you said? Because its not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vaibkulk:
No delay here. Ya Franco it's a little fancy. The phone booted it had a bright red light and now gradually the intensity is going down. Its nice. Though if u are going to keep it an on/off option be good

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Allosaur:
I have a few questions regarding optimising battery life:-

1. Does the auto brightness feature waste battery by polling the ambient light level? If so, can the polling frequency be increased? I know this can be effective in saving battery life when using the GPS. Can the light sensor be turned off?

2. If phone standby is a major drain on battery, can the voltage of the radio be dropped a little?

3. Could any other sensors be turned off as an option? The Hall sensor? Orientation? Anything to get a little more battery life.

4. Are these Rom or kernel side questions?

5. Would the battery savings be enough to care about this?

Any thoughts?

Cheers.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] stratosk:
You may disable it using the command bellow (as su):

echo none > /sys/class/leds/red/trigger
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yup, on/off will be implemented. [MENTION=3750240]stratosk[/MENTION] did the initial code work though, props to him.

The code is there:

if (likely(ts->ts_data.curr_data[0].state == ABS_PRESS)) {
if (policy->cur < TOUCH_BOOST_FREQ && num_online_cpus() < 2)
__cpufreq_driver_target(policy, TOUCH_BOOST_FREQ, CPUFREQ_RELATION_H);

On/off yes, look above answer.

1 - Dunno, you shouldn't worry about that.

2 - Voltage can be decreased but that is a major problem magnet and its something I'm not going even to consider.

3 - Orientation? Disable auto-rotate in the Settings menu. Hall? Dunno what is that. About the other sensors, I don't know which are enabled or disabled. Not sure if thats even Kernel or Android OS side.

4 - As said above, no idea.

5 - Probably not.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
It would be cool if the led turned once being throttled. So far it works pretty well ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] elzafir:
Guys, stupid question, but does the r666 falls into the nightlies category or the dev/beta?

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yeah, the values can be changed. I have a few cool ideas!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
Well, its not working, check for yourself! Go to system monitor, touch the screen and you'll see it doesn't work! Something is probably wrong with whatever you have interpreting a touch as a touch...

Another question, what happens when the screen is touched (not swiped) if online_cores >= 2 ? No boost until a swipe?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Allosaur:
The Hall sensor reads magnetic field flux and so allows the phone to be aware of its orientation, which way it's pointing etc.

Cheers for the reply Franco. I know some people are obsessed with benchmarks. I care more about getting the best battery life I can. Then again, the screen does look better with brightness turned up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Hehe I bet you do ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] EstarlinMReyes:
The only thing that I care about my phone is if can last all day only.

Sent from my Nexus⁴ with ParanoidAndroid + Franco.Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hotnikkelz:
Hey Franco. Last update seems to have broken the first menu of your app. When I tap it to change themes etc. I get nothing. Anyone else gets this?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Tap the three dot menu button next to the title. Cheers.

Sent from my LG-E960 powered sauté pan.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hotnikkelz:
Holy **** lol I feel dumb. I didn't even see that haha. Nice
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scream4cheese:
Neither. It's more like a test kernel.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm gonna take another look.

Nothing, cpufreq will take care of that by itself, 2 cores are enough to take care of the threads and the governor will be responsible for the frequencies.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Net.silb:
Ran out of thanks for the day so thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Slymobi:
I get boost when I touch. Maybe I just got really fat thumb which acts as a swipe lol.

Love the LED but its dissapeared already Lol. Gotta go warm the cherry up just for another view. :D

Thanks Francisco.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
Recommendation for the led when it gets the "nightly" lable: you could add an option to go through 2 or 3 user customizable colours depending on the temperature – if it's easy to adjust the code.

I love the idea of the led to monitor the temperature! Gotta find that dev and hit him with thanks as well.

PS: Saw you stratosk, just above Franco's post. Thanks here too! ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] musa47:
Mine is always on. I'm living in a hot region lol. I prefer not to use this led notifier version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Is the only change from r666 v3 to r666 v4 the led temperature light? Or are there other subtle changes?

Thanks in advance:)

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] have you done any changes to the first touch after screen on? Before sometimes when unlocking with the ring, it would happen that I swipe to the up-right and the circle goes to the up-left. Now just happened that it went to the down right instead.

PS: edited for correct "directions" :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] markd0wn:
Another recommendation which I'm sure many will agree with - having the LED feature off by default, for those who "flash and forget" and don't use any apps to tweak the kernel (like many other features which are off by default). Then add the ability to turn it on in FKU etc.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Banished Angel:
I know benchmarks aren't reliable, but I consistently score lower when overclocked to 1.7 than when when I run 1.5 on r134. No UV. I have the fastest bin CPU.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
I'd you read the thread for about the last 10 pages then you would already know that Franco plans to add the on/off functionality with an update:) (not trying to sound mean but it's hard to do that with writing)

Edit:

Posted by [MENTION=3750240]stratosk[/MENTION]

You may disable it using the command bellow (as su):

echo none > /sys/class/leds/red/trigger

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arstoien:
That's cause it's keeping the temperature higher and it's throttling, to prevent your cpu from damage.

He meant to have it off as default so people wouldn't have to do it themselves if they don't usually tweak the kernel at all, which makes sense.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] markd0wn:
I did read...

What I mean is, some people ONLY flash the boot.img, and without a third-party application, like franco kernel updater/trickster mod/whatever, they can't change any kernel feature.

So my suggestion was that by default, after flashing the kernel, the LED feature will be turned off. Those who want it on, will install the app and activate it. A confirmation that the ability to turn it off/on is different than a confirmation of whether or not it will be on or off by default.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Oh OK I understand, and BTW I do agree it would be better if it was disabled by default, but that can be done with the next nightly update as this is only the test version :)

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] renegadedj:
Was the link for r666 v4 posted in this thread? I can't find it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fadiiik:
Did anybody felt some lag in tapatalk while scrolling? I have been noticing it since r134. It probably wasn't there in previous builds..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] musa47:
Is probably app error. That's what i say to myself because i always feel lag in Tapatalk 2 using any kernel. It was reduced using stock, yeah stock Kernel. But can't do anything about it. (my opinion only )
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
It's on page 2923 on the xda premium app

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] quiquegabriel:
OT >I didn't know about the MiNCO ROM but I've flashed it and I like it. Missing some CM features like erase all running apps with one touch and some others.

I having problems with your franco.Kernel updater app, It sticks the free one over the premium one. I have erased the free one with titanium and downloaded de premium and its not showing up. Weird

I don't know if its the ROM but having better battery life than CM
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Slymobi:
Does turning off the standard pulse notifications in display settings have any impact on this led feature ?

Edit: just tested and No it doesn't.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
I don't think so :)

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Whenever I reboot my settings doesn't stick for the Franco app. Anyone else?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Which settings in particular?

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Steven08:
what version are you using?if you don't have the latest version,try updating.it worked for me
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ipnekgs:
Same here, updated Franco's app to latest and after reboot settings are discarded.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
Flashing v4 of r666 right now :)

v3 r666 has been real smooth and amazing BTW
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
All apparently.

I'm on the latest version.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
Have you ticked the set CPU settings on boot boxes in the frequencies/voltages menu?

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Steven08:
sorry.i haven't updated it.i use 9.3.1.this version doesn't change the settings if i reboot
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nexusmaniac:
The update to 9.3.5 will fix all of your problems :)

N4/N7 - CM 10.1 Nightly, Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tkalli:
9.3.5 will save your settings as nexusmaniac said in his post.

Saved all my settings which were mainly voltage and set to boot.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Either I'm crazy or there's also a charging LED too.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
Is anyone else getting more than normal battery drain wile the phone is sleeping in your pocket? I have checked BBS and nothing seems odd...

Also, what is this "r666" that people are talking about? I don't know where to look for info on strange build numbers.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] espionage724:
It's a tag for the test build going around in this thread. I think it's mainly to test a new hotplug method, and now a new LED notification thing.

There's two posts at the bottom of a page that give the boot.img and a .zip for the latest r666 (the r666 tag isn't changed between builds; so there are even r666 builds that are older than the current r666).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tkalli:
Latest one.

SEE HERE
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mitchdickson:
Isn't that a rom thing?

Sent from my iPad 4