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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
Why is it so difficult to have an intelligent conversation in xda? Tons of people who think they know everything about Android and write like Gods of Development, really annoying. This is my second Android phone and the first one didn't last too much on my hands so I can pretty much say this is actually the first. Having said that I'm looking forward to experiences from other users who've used android phones over the years, etc., someone who could say something useful about this. Why did you waste your time like this if you really didn't want to help in first place? Totally pointless. At least, you should have tried to understand my post and my intentions behind it, it wasn't that hard, was it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tweak³:
Flashable zip: Post #29505

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Underground_XI:
Dude open your own thread in the general section and ask people to volunteer not to use their phone so that you can have the results you are looking for. What you say does not require any rocket science to realize that it is normal stuff to happen that way. If wifi is off data off and even airplane mode on, of course your phone will not have battery drain because basically it is not a smartphone anymore, but a simple old nokia 1998. I do not care battery drains. I like to enjoy my phone. If battery drains then there is the charger that charges the battery ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
Sigh... If you'd only read my post. Anyways, thanks for your time, cheers.

Moving on....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] yokuyuki:
Sleeping for 5 seconds is sufficient? Also why not set the color multiplier in the init.d as well?

Whoops my bad :o

In terms of battery drain, screen > signal > cpu. The amount of power to transmit signal is quite significant, but there isn't much you can do about it. It's why we try to stay on wifi as much as possible because it uses less power being faster (race to idle) and not having to transmit as far (AP is closer than cell tower).

We tweak what we can and since you can't really change signal power consumption, we tweak the next best thing: the cpu power consumption.

Don't bother. He's always like this.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jlg19753:
Just got the franco app and kernel yesterday running and it is running flawless. Thanks for your work on this.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
Again, thank you very much, this is the type of response I was looking for, makes sense. Now, seeing these latest changes that [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] has made I can finally understand the true benefits of flashing a kernel: increased performance when moving around your phone, audio enhancements, etc., etc. A kernel won't make your user experience, battery-wise, more pleasant like it does for all these areas. We can't expect much when it comes to battery then, nice to know.

Thanks my friend, have a great day/night! :)

Yeah, I'm noticing this now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
Can you provide links to these mythical apps that have nothing to do with battery drain?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dan53:
In general, apps that don't keep wakelocks don't drain much battery. (Except CPU at the time of use). It's also been known for a long time that data use causes battery to go down like Miley Cyrus on crack. So yeah, results seem to hold.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
I tried the ones I have installed which didn't need Internet connection: ES Explorer v3, Kingsoft Office, Player Pro (this one didn't even drain it 2% for more than 1 hour which is amazing because it's actually using the phone all that time), Smart Tools and Snap Camera HDR.

Sorry, no links.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Alex240188:
The vast majority of apps. Anything that doesn't run as a service.

Most apps will not need to do anything unless they are run.

Some apps need to do stuff in the background which is where unseen battery drain occurs.

Things like greenify/BBS help identify which apps might be doing something that you don't really need them to be doing. Like syncing (causing data connection which drains battery)

In response to the guy who was questioning about getting about 3hrs screen on.

I only usually get about 3hrs screen on also.

I don't have large wakelocks.

Phone on for 16 hours

Deep sleep for 13 hours

Screen on for 2.5 hours

2x 15 mins wakelocks

Msm_hsic_host and powermanagerservice

Nothing to be concerned with
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
Nice to know, thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SleemLDJ:
Questions.

Will the led notification of this kernel collide with that which CM10.1 already has?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] legsim:
With latest r666 release, I get a strange issue, maybe related to the new hotplug driver (especially the touch boost part).

The second core will go online on a single touch (not a swipe) only if I touch one of the 50px from the top or one of the 50px from the left (x < 50 || y < 50).

Is that the expected behavior or is there something wrong on my side ?

Anyway, thank you very much Franco for you great kernel, I have been using it since I bought my phone ! :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Dan53:
If I'm right (I'm on PA so not to sure), it wont. CM LEDs only show on screen off. Kernel LEDs on screen on. Shouldn't be a problem at all

Second core is suppose to go online for touch as well as swipes. Weird that it only happens in certain places though
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Redneck Trash:
No kidding? Thanks. It's my first day here. Maybe I need to explain that it was a smartass response by me to his statement that apps can't be responsible for massive battery drain.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I thought i seen a post that someone was having issues with cm , a search for led should bring it up from yesterday, i no lightflow dose not work correctly anymore even with new features disabled... Love new 666 but had go back to 134, besides franco being a dev on the phone lightflow was also major selling point for me to buy the N4 :P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
N7 is going to have this as well.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tarroyo:
Can you link me to this post?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jsparta26:
Where can I find this r666 build at?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaceman860:
In this thread if you search:p

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Here: http://db.tt/BrZhq7tf

Sent from my Rock & Roll Nexus 4 \m/

ROM: PA 3.15

Kernel: Franco 666/May9

T-Mobile
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] khanhtrinh:
Can someone help me to compare M2 and r111? I think r111 is better in terms of battery life. After M2 being flashed, 6-hour idling over night drains 10% whereas the figure in r111 is just 2%. Same using pattern. No new app installed. No heavy task performed. Furthermore I don't notice any difference in touch sensitivity.

Is it just me or everyone here is feeling the same? I know wiping is not needed for kernel flashing, but if I do, can there be any difference?

Gửi từ Nexus 4 của tôi
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] phillysmako:
Cannot stand people like this.... there's almost 3000 pages in this thread try searching for r666 and see what you come up with! 30 pages and 120 post about how awesome r666 is and how my phone no boot no more thanks to r666 if someone came up to you and said hey do you know were the butter is would you tell them to search for it? No you'd ****ing show em were the god damn butter is! ****!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Underground_XI:
So what do you expect, him to search for you and find r666 then tell you where it is?

---------- Post added at 02:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 AM ----------

To be honest r111 is my all time favorite and from time to time i switch back to it. And no difference if you wipe before flashing kernels.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
It's not like we keep those pages bookmarked or anything either. But then again, why should we? It is your responsibility to find it and flash it. It's literally 5 minutes job. Sure there's tons of posts about r666, so if you can't find it, go to Franco's profile, go to all of his posts, and find r666 there. There should be much reduced amount of "pointless" posts.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spaceman860:
No I would tell them to search the f***ing refrigerator.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Cannot stand people like this who expect to be spoon fed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mo'HAWK:
Why not the school system does it already.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ceejay83:
Thanks Obama
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] desiromeo719:
+1 I think r111 is my favorite of all time too!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mo'HAWK:
M1 is great I'm just testing to help out for the next nights but what I'm really waiting for is when we are able to edit the governor settings.

Edit: [MENTION=470754]Franco[/MENTION] I guess I never asked or saw this but will we ever be able to change the governor settings for the different loads (low, medium, high)?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
If someone asked me where the butter was I would say the bathroom. Because they must be helpless or stupid. Just MHO. And the search feature is pretty easy to use within these threads. You can give a man a fish or teach em to fish. My 2¢ ✌

And on the favorite Franco kernel discussion I still really like M2. Best balance of battery and performance for me. Been using r134 since it came out. Its awesome. I don't over clock. It is fast and smooth. But M2 still my bottom *****.

Sent from my LG-E960 powered sauté pan.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LibiSC:
Just to say that not all the people live in this thread and if people stop posting thinks like 'I love #666' like a hundred times would be easier... also Franco could put a link in OP and update it with the new #666 that comes. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
He already mentioned why he doesn't have test build on the op. If he had test build on the op, a lot of "noobs" will flash it and when they have problem later, who are they gonna criticize? Franco, that's who. He wouldn't like that. It is test builds for a reason. So please understand.

Also this is a forum and every single opinions and reports matter. Let's respect that. Just my 2 cents.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Couldn't be more simple

Did a search for 666 took less than a min to find new one , searched Francos posts took even less time,. While anyone can flash a test build there's good reason for how/y franco dose it the way he dose and y its not in OP. I dont feel like starting a riot ATM so i wont post y ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LibiSC:
A lot of noobs (if the word applies anyway) are flashing it already... If Franco really wants to get great feedback he should go with closed beta with these builds.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jsparta26:
Wow I guess y'all must be butt hurt that bad. This much complaining about me asking where to find it. I got kids to look after so I ain't got the damn time to search through thirty something pages just to find it. Instead of trying to flame on me how about pointing me in the right direction. To those who were kind enough to show me and or provide me a link. Thank you. Thats what xda is all about. To those who were rude and arrogant to me, you should just keep your mouth shut if you ain't got nothing nice to say. Enough said. Get those sticks out your asses and be a better example on xda. I could careless what you might have to say after the fact. Have a nice night.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] peikojose:
Please help me with this, I'm sure the fix is easy but it's making me crazy.

By mistake I Greenfied Franco App.

I didn't notice until I had to reboot and when the phone loaded the colors were stock, that's when I noticed that francos App was greenfied by Greenify.. I un-greenfied, set my custom colors and restarted...

now when I reboot, just when I have to enter my pin code I see as it changes the stock colors to my colors, it takes like 2-3 sec, but it's anoying and it didn't do it before (before it would have loaded my colors before the pin unlock screen).

I already reflashed kernel and cleaned cache and dalvik
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
Sorry if we seemed arrogant but if you get posts like this hundreds of times per day, it does get real annoying. Please understand that. But in reality, you shouldn't need to spend more than 5 minutes to find it if you used search tool or just go to Franco's profile and find it from there. I doubt that your kids can't live without you for 5 minutes
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] David_Vaz:
Franco, excelente Kernel!! Sigue así!!

Tengo instalado el 666 :D va super bien!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
Did you try uninstalling and installing the application again?

It's always been like that here, by the way. Gamma/color settings were always set after I saw the keyboard to enter my pin code. That's why I always had bootloops because it happened exactly when these settings were set. I solved that by using init.d scripts, though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Last comment then I'm done. But I'm pretty sure that's the point people are trying to make. Use search function and you don't have to search through 30 something pages. One person posted they found it in less then a minute. Cheers and check out this video. It describes more accurately what XDA is instead of your candy coated version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my LG-E960 powered sauté pan.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Finally gave in and flashed my first r666... I didn't want to just because, well i'm pretty lazy and doubted it was really THAT good, but wow is it ever good..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Hmm. That's a bugger. Maybe also try clearing app data for both and try again? Not really sure. Cheers.

Sent from my LG-E960 powered sauté pan.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
Oh that takes me back. I actually watched and enjoyed this when I first joined XDA. :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
like none of you have ever asked help instead of searching. yea, right. if you dont want to help someone out, thats cool, thats up to you. but to crucify someone for asking for a link.. none of you are innocent.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jsparta26:
This is the first time I ever asked for help about where to find something during my time on here on xda. Even though your suggestions were useful, the arrogant smartass tones don't cut it with me at all. It couldve been worded differently and the way it was worded could have been tooken a different way. If that many people were asking about r666 that much, I apologize if i i didnt catch them asking. I'm pretty damn certain each and every one of you have had to ask for help at some point being here and was upon the mercy of other users for help. Just remember that once all of you were noobs at one point. Even the most experienced Devs have to turn for help at some point. I'm done talking.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mitchdickson:
I thought this was a kernel development thread.

Stop getting your egos hurt so easily. Move on.

Sent from my iPad 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
I can't say I've never asked for a link to something... But I'm certain I've not asked for a link to something has been linked to and asked for a 1000 times. Its not a blue moon to get an r666 at least not as of late there's no excuse for asking... However (twist) I agree. Quit being such an ass about it. Ignore the guy and move along.. If some other kind soul gives him a link... So be it. GTF over it, he asked.. No one has the right to be upset... Except the dev. I don't see Franco crying about this... He's smart and ignores the bull****... So should you.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] peikojose:
I did and it still happens... After the phone boots I have to wait some seconds and then it loads the color profile (it's easy to see the screen changing ).

Dirty flashed ROM (cm 10.1) and kernel 134 again and it still happens.. Wtf ? I was sure it didn't happen before!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Post with the latest (at time of posting) r666 (you'll need to click the arrow to the post to get the attached boot.img). Enjoy :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sk8erwitskil:
They pulled it because of the LTE issue. They got in a bit of trouble with the FCC since some areas can allow lte with this phone lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I really don't give a damn anymore, I'm done babysitting.

Few notes though:

1 - Its possible to get 6 hours screen on time in this device, it all depends on user usage. Its also possible to deplete it in 2 hours, again depends on user usage. People are enjoying the kernel, they have awesome battery life and awesome user experience, I'm happy for that. X or Y user don't like that? I give 0 ****s.

2 - Dunno whats up about bringing the Sleep2Wake topic back, but I will say it again: no matter how many times you ask me to add that functionality, I won't add it. You don't like my decision? Kernel is GPL'ed, take my sources and compile it with S2W code and use it for yourself, no one stops you and its actually encouraged. You don't want to do that and keep bringing chaos into this thread? I also give 0 ****s.

3 - UV stuff keeps popping back... its annoying. I will add it when I feel its time for that, nor sooner, nor later.

I hope everyone had a great christmas, thats all I care for today :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ben_pyett:
best bet is to try a day or two on both setups and keep readings and then report back, as only ran stock for a day and at that point there was no r20.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] abbofro:
Merry Christmas Franco.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Hey Ben,

Bad signal is almost as bad as having your screen on.... It will drain your battery pretty quick.

Regarding Maps, it's weird it's using so much battery.... The only thing that occurs to me is that your using latitude in your maps app.... That's constantly updating your location and reporting.... So that might be why your battery is going fast....

Check your settings and report back....

Lu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Tested 20 for day and half , works great , but i found it runs hot after very short while being on phone in comparison other builds , went back to build 14 and I've been watching a video on internet with charger plugged in for over 30 min now and still not as hot as 20 was getting off charger in half the time . also i didn't get great battery with 20 , i blame the running hotter , I'm still stuck on 14 for best of everything . just some feedback .... Thanks Franco
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
Hi Lu,

I did make sure to disable the latitude and background location settings. I do, however, use Facebook, Google+, and Google Now. One of those apps could be causing the maps issue, but I didn't think any were. Seeing that bad signal causes as much drain as screen time and I have At&t, I guess I'll never get to really test it properly. :p I spend a lot of time at home and in places with bad signal, so that explains a lot. When I'm on wifi I noticed that the screen time is fantastic, even when streaming YouTube videos.

Ben
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
Yup... I think your problem is bad signal dude... You could also run this app "battery monitor widget" and check what's kicking your battery so much.... Let it run for about a day..

Lu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Mess a little with interactivr tunables, I still havent found the sweetspot.

Uninstall facebook - problem solved.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] benblb:
But my friends will be so upset. :p In all seriousness though I do use it. It doesn't seem to be giving me that much of a problem. Am I missing something?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
One of the worst coded apps in the history of badly coded apps; consumes battery when it's just sitting there, even with notifications turned off. Use the browser instead!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 1234568:
Is this still the case after the huge update last week, or whenever it was?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vikas_toad:
Does that red led thingy happen with this kernel too?

i understand it has something to do with the thermald from qcomm...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] AvRS:
OK I've just cleaned all the rubbish out from the last 10 pages between a couple of people. The best battery discussions are the one's which aren't discussed ;) Battery life is too subjective as everyone has different uses and you'll be lucky to get 2 people who have exactly the same. In summary if you have nothing useful to say, say nothing and talk about the kernel forget the battery.

Thanks

AvRS
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] alcurtis93:
The update to native code... Yes
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Luigiesin:
No need to un install it.... Just disable notifications.... I had the same problem.... That way it just runs when you open the app.

Lu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mobilehavoc:
This is what I'm saying. Why does someone have to turn off Facebook or uninstall it? You bought a cutting edge phone with the latest OS to gimp it? If you use something then bloody use it. Battery life isn't the only thing in the world that matters. Unless you live in a town with one outlet I don't get this obsession over it. I charge at home and at work. I carry a USB charger in my bag if I run out on the road. Problems solved.

I don't disable ****. Use your phone how you like and stop worrying about BBS and all that BS.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mikarbach:
I think this is not entirely true, the N4-display is an IPS-LCD and uses for the same brightness the same energy regardless of the color. Black uses the same as white color, see attached LG-graphic.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Boergen:
Could we please not discuss the power consumptions of different display technologies here?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mosd:
why wont my batteri stats reset? have rebooted the phone and everything it says like 4 days now and screeen time 9 hours!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ÜBER™:
That happens to me every reboot? That's normal. It applies after it gets root.. If that gets delayed then you see it change. Is it that big a deal? Don't look at the phone when you first boot for 2-3 seconds. :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] peikojose:
OK... I was sure it didn't happen before .. Bit if you say its normal i believe you.

Yes it happens just after it gets root access..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] simms22:
if it makes you feel any better, thats the way it behaves on the trinity kernel too. first it boots and sets up, they my colors kick in(and other kernel settings) after root is gained.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kyokeun1234:
An old bug that still hasn't been fixed... Something that we'll have to live with if we use customs gamma I guess. But ya, it is normal for it to do that so don't worry.