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[Nexus 4 General] fredmanwalking:
Just this morning, my phone has a notification that says "Sign into network" and I do not have data connectivity. I get redirected to a webpage saying that I do not currently have an active data plan and I need to renew early or change my plan. That's obviously incorrect, since my plan just renewed yesterday. I contacted T-Mobile support and they had me try everything that I have already tried, being an IT guy. I was told that I need to contact T-Mobile "advanced" technical support. Has anyone ever seen this before? The only mention that I've seen is that it happened because of an unpaid bill, but that isn't the case for me. It's pretty frustrating since I depend on data connectivity for my job.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
This has happened to me twice now. At first I thought it was the radio but I'm convinced it's on T Mobile's end. I did the usual reboot and reset the SIM card and persisted. Magically after several hours another reboot I was sign back in. Since you rely on it for business I would recommend doing the automatic monthly pay by credit card but I'm unconvinced this is related.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
We just got 2.5gb of tethering included in the plan. Woooooo I love tmo

http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobil...plans-domestic-data-roaming-also-now-included
[Nexus 4 General] testrider:
You got free 2. 5 gb tethering with the $30 prepaid plan? May I ask how? I like to get it too. .
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
It doesn't show the $30 plan on any of the charts so I doubt we'll be getting 2.5 GB of tethering. Only simple choice prepaid plans were mentioned at all.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
You're right. Although they did mention it in the article. But I just read the comments and there conflicting reports about the 30 dollar only getting 100mb. Btw from now the 30 dollar along with the other plans will be called pay in advance simple choice
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
I saw that in the comments too. My account still shows only 100 MB of tethering so until it says 2.5 GB or someone posts a screenshot, I won't believe it. Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
Lol let's wait and see. Although I'll admit that I'll be happy with just 100mb
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
We're getting trolled
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Simple Choice are the new plans guys. We're our own separate plan...

Sent from my SGH-I337
[Nexus 4 General] Psilocin:
I agree with you on the conflicting reports, so I'm going to post another article that says:

So question is who is telling the truth. Is someone adventurous enough to go through those first 100MB and see what happens? To my understanding, the worst case is that you get throttled. Best case is that you aren't throttled and it could just be a system error now showing the full 5gb.

Edit: Well, my current billing period is ending today so I decided to just max out the 100MB myself and see what happens. After loading a few 480p youtube videos, I get redirected to a page saying reached my data limit. Doesn't even throttle you after that, which is disappointing. So, I'm not sure why tmo is claiming the guy in the article can get 5GB tethering on our plan.
[Nexus 4 General] SonicYan:
So was tethering the only thing that you maxed out, or was browsing on just your regular data show that data limit page as well? That would such if you went over tethering and end up locking out your regular data as well.
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
am I the only one that finds it odd tmobile would restrict tethering on this plan. Not like any would ould gouge big amounts of data with only having 5gbs of un throttled data
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
It's not just about the amount. It's about the speed that it's being used. While logically, yes, you should be able to use that 5GB any way you see fit, if everyone started tethering at the same time and streaming Netflix/downloading things/etc, it could seriously impact the network in a particular area. The other end of it is business. We're only paying $30 AND we're prepaid. They have no incentive, as nice as they are, to give us that much for such a cheap plan.
[Nexus 4 General] gbpack2306:
Just an FYI guys, T-Mobile has their SIM card activation kits up for $0.99 now. Never know how long that'll be up.

Micro - http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/...t-No-Annual-Contract?AID=11456737&PID=1225267

Nano - http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/...ano-SIM-Card-Prepaid?AID=11456737&PID=1225267
[Nexus 4 General] LuBi:
Walmart SIM Kit for 29.88 includes SIM Kit + a $30 service credit

Also worth an FYI, if you have a Walmart near by pick up the TMO SIM kit (http://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Mobile-SIM-Kit/24099996). The kit includes a micro SIM starter kit ($10/.99 value) and a $30 service credit to be used towards the plan mentioned in this thread. All of this for 29.88 before taxes, so there are still some savings to be had here vs paying $30 outright plus purchasing a SIM starter kit even at the discounted rate. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] schism70:
Quick question. After activating my SIM earlier this month I'm coming up on my first payment pretty soon. I have sufficient funds in my account to cover it using the prepay cards. Do they just deduct the $30 automatically on the payment date or do I have to have to log in and actively make a payment? Thanks in advance for the answer.
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
They'll just deduct the $30. You'll get a reminder text or two a few days prior and then a confirmation when it processes.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] fredmanwalking:
T-Mobile finally resolved this yesterday, but not after falsely closing my ticket without contacting me. There is no indication of what was wrong or what was done on T-Mobile's end to fix this, so the experience left me a little concern about other random occurrences of this in the future.
[Nexus 4 General] ronakg:
Is there absolutely no data roaming on this plan even in major cities? I've got confusing reports from different forums so far. I live in California and plan to visit Las Vegas next month. Would I get data roaming there? I see very strong 4G coverage in Las Vegas city.
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
Why would you need data roaming if T-Mobile has good native coverage there?? Roaming is when you roam onto another carrier in an area where T-Mobile doesn't have any service.
[Nexus 4 General] ronakg:
I guess my understanding of roaming is different. Am I not roaming when I'm out of my state? Or am I considered roaming only when I use other carrier's network?
[Nexus 4 General] arlenwoot:
Roaming is when you're using another carriers network.
[Nexus 4 General] ronakg:
That's good to know. I had my understanding of roaming according to this article on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaming

This also aligns with the way roaming is defined in my home country India.

Anyways, so basically I don't need to worry about data connectivity in Las Vegas next month :good:.
[Nexus 4 General] arlenwoot:
Some carriers do consider you're roaming when you're out of state, but that's usually the smaller local carriers that focus service on a specific area.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
You can roam in Montana on this plan. It's ATT. No data at all though.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
T-mobile is selling the activation kit for free for a limited time (Halloween):

Mini-Sim

Micro-Sim
[Nexus 4 General] urinsane:
Thanks for the tip! I ordered two as backup.
[Nexus 4 General] kBTWOFOUR:
I get a processing error when I try to order them. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] SpasilliumNexus:
Same. Going to give it more time and hope it gets fixed before the deal is over.
[Nexus 4 General] knodalyte:
I just ordered successfully 4 PM EDT
[Nexus 4 General] amf100:
I too was able to place an order. It took a few tries, but after about 3 it went through.
[Nexus 4 General] keemer1028:
GrooveIP to be killed off?

According to Nikhyl Singhal's post on Google+, Google Voice will not be supporting apps such as GrooveIP by May of next year. Hopefully Google will have some sort of VOIP service built in to Google Voice without the need to have a workaround such as GrooveIP.
[Nexus 4 General] arlenwoot:
The call function on hangouts for iOS uses voip I believe, so should be able to use that once it comes out for android.
[Nexus 4 General] fortunz:
Sounds like it might be the beginning of the end for the old school. Google has had gmail calling for some time they just don't seem interested in making it more accessible. I think the only reason they're no longer tolerating the folks who extended it for them is because an unfortunate change is coming. Sadly, they seem intent on rolling GV into G+, as all the GV news I've seen in a long time has been Hangouts related. I'm betting the date they posted has something to do with that. However nice both products are, I'm not keen on tying my phone number into any social network.

Been dreading the day I log on to find out I can't read my email or listen to my voicemail until I adopt G+. Your messages are being well cared for. Accept our terms and nothing will happen to them. Speak of this to no one. Love the service, would even be willing to pay for it, but with dollars and cents, not my entire identity.
[Nexus 4 General] muyoso:
So will this make the PBXes and Csipsimple setup I have stop working? If so, that really sucks.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Yeah, basically.

Sent from my SGH-I337
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
That's going to really suck for obitalk users yikes

Sent from my phone. Please forgive typos and brevity.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
I didn't even think about that. I have an obitalk and I love it. That's my main phone line

Sent from my HTC One
[Nexus 4 General] cdmoore74:
Warning! Here is the stupid question of the day. Does T-Mobile perform a credit check for this $30 prepaid plan? I did a search for “credit” and “credit check” and found one reference were they did ask for SSN and driver license. I’m currently on Verizon and wish to sale my iPhone 5s for a 32gig N5 but want to make sure before I pre-order. My credit is shot to hell and back from a job change a year ago.

If they do check I know that smarttalk does not check but this t-mobile deal sounds more appealing.

I want to be rid of Verizon with their locked-bootloaders, branding, bloatware, slow device rollout and expensive service. The only thing going for them is their reliable coverage. Their LTE is faster than my home cable at my house.
[Nexus 4 General] HTCMDA:
Nope, dude you can go to walmart and buy a starter kit off the shelf with a micro sim in it for $30 bux and sign up online and be using the phone within minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] SpasilliumNexus:
There's never a credit check when you're signing up for prepaid on any carrier.
[Nexus 4 General] cdmoore74:
Thanks! I ordered a free t-mobile micro sim and nana sim about 3 hours ago (wasn’t sure which one to get). I would like to walk into a brick-and-mortar (Bestbuy) and just buy the N5 without paying some ridiculous shipping charge on top of taxes. But details are scarce on Bestbuy’s plans. Might be faster than waiting 2 to 3 weeks as posted on Google’s website. In the mean time I have to prep my iPhone 5s for sale and cancel one of my Verizon lines.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Please post you LTE experience on this plan using Nexus 5.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] kachaffeous:
Switching from Verizon, I don't want to port my number now until I test coverage. If i get a tmobile number, can I switch it to my verizon number later? Already ordered 1 Tmobile sim, should I order another?
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Yes you can do that. I did that at first. I was on Straight Talk, but my number was in Google Voice because I didn't trust ST because they have a tendency to cancel people's accounts for "too much data usage". As soon as I found T-Mobile to be trustworthy, I called them up and said I want to overwrite my randomly-given T-Mobile number with my real (Google Voice) number. I gave them the GV account number, password, and phone number and it worked in like a day. I got a text telling me that it worked.
[Nexus 4 General] Postal Psycho:
I have been on this plan since June 2012, and today I learned about this http://androidcommunity.com/groove-ip-shutting-down-due-to-google-voice-changes-20131104/

Hopefully Google will start letting hangouts make and receive voice calls, or this plan is no longer going to meet my needs. C'mon Google! What's with this? Or just keep supporting XMPP.
[Nexus 4 General] Romman0:
If your looking for nexus 5 experiences ask in the 5's forum. That's what it is there for.

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Theres always SIP or the vonage app.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
It is easy to find people on this plan, as this is the thread for this plan. I think it is the right place to ask the question. I did also asked the question in Nexus 5's thread and got an observation. Eventually, when people start receiving their 5s, they will post the results/experiences and I will get my answer.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] Romman0:
What would be the issue running the n5 on this plan? It has Tmo lte band, it will work.

Have you heard differently, or of issues?
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I am not talking about issues. I wanted to know people's experiences of N5's LTE performance to use VOIP on this plan. I have N4 and it's HSPA based VOIP performance has its limitations. I love my N4 and I am sure I will do the same when I get my N5. No issues.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] Romman0:
I know this isn't what your looking for, but I have run talkatone and Vonage over LTE on my n4 with results that are on par with my home WiFi. That's with a 16mb/s down, 8 up, and a 50ms ping connection on LTE (on average). Sometimes I would get a delay with both apps on hspa, with 7mb/s down, 2 up, 65ms ping. I also used grooveip, but switched to talkatone due to better performance.
[Nexus 4 General] Ajfink:
I haven't VOIP'ed, but all the network testing I've done to ferret out any differences between my N4 (on LTE) and my N5 have shown things to be identical.
[Nexus 4 General] GorillaPimp:
Properly tuned VOIP on HSPA has no issues for me. The initial problem was adjusting for echo and other issues but bandwidth has never been the problem unless it was in an Edge area. Different implementations of VOIP also have their built-in issues. Oobi, Vonage, Skype, GrooveIP and other apps, plus the various home setups you can use aren't identical. Some may be more bandwidth intensive and that's why you had problems with them over HSPA in your area.

{GrooveIP is working fantastic for me now and will be shutdown May 2014 when Google locks down their method of accessing Google Voice. Sipgate just shutdown US operations}

Your problem is either a matter of fine tuning your specific VOIP application or service and/or assessing HSPA+/LTE coverage in your area. Asking random people about their situation won't likely yield results that will assist you. You may be able to check out Speedtest.net or some similar ISP speed test service and check their database for LTE users in your immediate area. That can give you some info about coverage. Another option would be your local T-Mo store. Someone who works there has to have an active LTE handset and you can ask them about local coverage. That still won't tell you how a new handset almost nobody owns yet will perform in your area with it's strong/weak/non-existent signal, how the radio hits the battery and whatever other things there are that may impact your situation.

You may have covered all bases and this is where you're at now, if so sorry for rehashing it. If not your best bet is fine tuning a VOIP setup that can work in your area on HSPA. LTE coverage is not extensive and unless Tmo is handling things differently I wouldn't think they'd upgrade markets theyve been neglecting, which is what your area sounds like with its bad HSPA coverage.

In any case good luck getting it worked out.
[Nexus 4 General] Romman0:
Sensorly.com or the sensorly app will show you what networks are mapped in your area. Just set it for T-Mobile 4g. It is user based so the mapping is different for each carrier and area. It is a great resource, and fun to use the app to map your areas too.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Romman0,

Thanks for the help and your observations.

Nexus IV

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GorillaPimp,

That is very sound advice. I will follow that to improve VOIP performance. Thanks.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] DustyGees:
I've been on the $30 plan for a while now with my Nexus 4, but I'm really tempted to switch to the Straight Talk AT&T LTE plan. I have an old iPhone 4 I use just as a wifi phone connected to an EC2 cloud Asterisk setup - since the Hangouts app came out for iOS, though, I only use that for my international VOIP accounts.

I really hope they integrate Google Voice and Hangouts fully soon. I'd keep the $30 plan, get the $45 Straight Talk plan, and just use the one GVoice number.
[Nexus 4 General] TreatnHerRight:
Anyone try Walmarts Family Mobile Plan? Unlimited Calls, Texts, and Unlimited Data(2.5g of 3g) Rest 2g for 39.88$ a month. (Uses T-Mobile Network.)

I'm thinking of testing it.

Source: http://www.walmart.com/cp/Family-Mobile/1076544

Sent from my Nexus 4 Running Vanir ROM
[Nexus 4 General] urinsane:
I was under the impression this was identical service (same mvno) to straight talk/Net 10.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Except no LTE or Wifi calling
[Nexus 4 General] leebo:
Has there been any talk in this thread about the app, Tether it, made by the same company that makes GrooveIP?

It's supposed to enable tethering without rooting, and without having to sign up for your carriers extra tether plan.

Just wondering if anyone has used it. It's pretty new and there are only a hand full of reviews in the Play store.
[Nexus 4 General] joseph.lai:
LTE Throttling

Has anyone ran a speed test on LTE while throttled to 2G speeds? Do you still get decent ping with low down/up speeds?
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Generally speaking you shouldn't need an extra app on the Nexus phones to tether. On the N5 though, apparently T-mobile is blocking tethering cause Google is sort of ratting out when you're tethering, fix here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47203432#post47203432
[Nexus 4 General] souleater11:
hi everyone,

Will my 100 minutes reduce if I answer a Tmobile subscriber and a Non-Tmobile subscriber incoming call ?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Yes. Voxmail and all cell usage results in minutes reduction.
[Nexus 4 General] souleater11:
hi wideasleep,

Why is voicemal is charged ?

wont that be unfair since the we didnt answer the incoming call anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] testrider:
I did not get charged for voicemail (unless I called with my cell to retrieve it, of course). Better yet, tmobile has an app

called 'visual voicemail' on my phone that it automatically retrieves and stored all the voicemail and I can just listen to them

without incurring any minute.
[Nexus 4 General] souleater11:
Hi, can tmobile detect if I also use my 5 GB for wifi tethering (using 3rd party app) for my laptop ?
[Nexus 4 General] bob60626:
Calling voicemail gets charged because you are calling a number. The visual voicemail app works well and you can download and use it on a non T-Mobile phone with no problems. I've even had voicemails come thorough with wifi on and data turned off. That confuses me a bit... :D

As for calls and minutes, the Vonage app doesn't use any minutes and works well for outbound calls if you have a strong LTE (and probably wifi) signal.
[Nexus 4 General] Onknight:
I'd Really like move to 4.4 but I don't want wipe my device .

Also don't want to compile the Rom.

has anyone got one that's done. and I just install
[Nexus 4 General] trdrjeff:
Definitely get the visual Voicemail app +1
[Nexus 4 General] CristianChavez:
Wow. Thanks to this thread I have taken advantage of T-mobiles plan. Thanks to all involved for your help. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] urinsane:
Guessing you posted this in the wrong thread, since you don't seem to be on T-Mobile... or even in the U.S... but I've been using SlimKat for the past couple of weeks without any big issues:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2508720

However, I do believe you will need to wipe your device for any upgrade to KitKat. Not everything (pictures etc) but you will need a system wipe. You could try it without (dirty flash?), but I am fairly sure it is not recommended.
[Nexus 4 General] c600g:
What site(s) are you all using to purchase refill cards? My list of usual suspects all seem out of stock at the moment.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] idigg:
Calling Mart is good, its $30 w/o tax and you get points accumulated. On top of that, buy it with a credit card that you get points with.

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I installed this T-Mobile visual voicemail app, but I'm getting "Your subscribtion cannot be completed at this time. Please visit my-.t-mobile.com or call 611.".

Anyone else?
[Nexus 4 General] TreatnHerRight:
My Visual Voice mail is working.

Sent from my Nexus 4 Running Vanir ROM by MBQ
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Call 611 and ask. Calling 611 doesn't use any minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] mojitochica:
Which one did you buy? I'm not seeing an option for 100 minutes of talk time and 5G of monthly 4G usage.
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
I use the Monthly Plan option:

http://www.callingmart.com/products/wireless/ProductDetail.aspx?ID=265&name=T-Mobile-Monthly-Plan
[Nexus 4 General] idigg:
Just grab the $30 Monthly plan refill. They will email you the PIN within 5min and then you just load that PIN onto your account.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
I use pincheap. But lately I've been using the old tmobile my account app. It charges only 30 dollars flat. Not the new one but the old one.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Today (Nov-20) was the anniversary of when I received Nexus 4 last year and started this plan. It has been a great year and I have managed to not spend more than $350 on this plan, which was the cost of this phone last year. Really happy :):D

Thanks to all for keeping this thread alive. Rock on.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] tsunami643:
Got my Nexus 5 yesterday and set up GVoice calling today. For anyone who's having difficulties, I followed this guide:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2035720

And I now have incoming and outgoing all going through the native dialer over data. Only amendment I have to make on that guide is to leave the Proxy field blank when setting up CSipSimple. Thanks for the help in this thread as well.
[Nexus 4 General] plee3:
Thanks for the info. I successfully get incoming calls, but am having troubles with outgoing calls (error 503 / Unsupported transport).

Does this work for you for both incoming and outgoing calls? Also are you able to use this over both Wifi and LTE?

Thanks... plee3
[Nexus 4 General] tsunami643:
Yep, both outgoing and incoming are working. When I use the Dialer for outgoing calls it gives me the option to use my phone or CSip. I actually haven't tried WiFi yet, I've only tested it over LTE.

This is what I see when I hit the call button: i.imgur.com/tFTCvwI.png
[Nexus 4 General] plee3:
I get the same on the built-in dialer.

What is strange is that CsipSimple only registers to Simonics when I am on Wifi and not when I am on LTE.

Also when on Wifi, I can only receive calls and outgoing call terminates with the 503 error.

I have tried using UDP instead of TCP, but it CsipSimple does not register with Simonics using UDP.

I am not sure what other things I can try to make this work (outgoing on Wifi, both on LTE).

Thanks again for your information... plee3
[Nexus 4 General] tsunami643:
Strange. Maybe try uninstalling and reconfiguring CSip over LTE instead of over Wifi? I doubt it'll change anything but it's worth a shot.