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[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
If you ask a rep to transfer the money once you've set up your new account they'll probably do it. One was willing to do it for me, but my pay-as-you-go account had been neglected for too long (was on hold/inactive for more than half a year due to that phone being stolen), and it wasn't in the system anymore. The accounts can only be inactive for 3 months.
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
What if i don't tell them about the old account?

If they are willing, could I also keep my old number? I know most carriers offer to let you keep your own number when you're switching between carriers but I don't know about if you're just opening another one on the same carrier.
[Nexus 4 General] DreamScar:
I assume if you don't tell them about the old account you'd still lose the money.

I transferred from a pay as you go to the $30 plan and kept my number. Just let them know you want to keep it and it shouldn't be an issue.
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
You need go select the Speex 8kHz codec in CSipSimple for it to work correctly, and make sure it is at the top. Try enabling the Stun server.
[Nexus 4 General] mailistman:
they can transfer your balance as you switch your plan from PAYG to $30/month prepaid plan. i just did at t-mo store.
[Nexus 4 General] TTZip:
I haven't tested any of this yet as I am waiting for my N4 to come in (Tomorrow), but for those who haven't tried yet also try Sipdroid and Groove IP for voice over data. I have been using Sipdroid for almost 2 years now over WiFi when I am at home and overall it has been a fantastic experience with good sound quality, no echo, or delays.

I plan on Switching over to t-mobile $30 plan with my N4, but will be testing some of the VoIP programs out there on both wifi and 4g on the N4. If anyone is interested I can post back with my findings and settings.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I did do mostly all that except enabling the stun server, I'll try that next, thanks.

Speex did work both ways for outgoing calls though.
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
Okay cool thank you. Do you know if I can do that online too?
[Nexus 4 General] DreamScar:
I would say its best to call since you want to transfer your old balance and number.
[Nexus 4 General] PATRICKismyHERO:
I posted in this thread before with a few questions, I have asked all that I wanted to know but one.

How is VoIP on this plan? I live on GV as I am currently a college student surrounded by wifi. Everyone has my GV number, not to mention it's free (Groove IP) so I plan to continue using GV as my main contact method when I get my Nexus 4 with this plan. Just wanted some input with others' experiences with VoIP calls over 3G/4G.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
OK, I tried this and it doesn't fix it. From reading the message that comes up, it seems this is to fix incoming sound, which is fine. The only problem is with outgoing sound on incoming calls. All other scenarios are OK. This only happens with the Speex codec (of all compatible codecs).

I'm thinking of going with Talkatone's $20/yr service, if GV is confirmed to remain free through 2013, I mean $1.67/mo is probably less than what I would spend on electricity alone running the server at home, plus it's way simpler. Also waiting for full N4 compatibility, with the HW proximity sensor issue.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Hey all,

I just installed Vonage and have been trying to figure out some options.

I noticed that when I tried using Vonage through data it used my tmob minutes. For wifi though it seems decent enough though you are stuck dialing through that app.

I also set up Google voice. I do not want to use another number though. This number is on my business number so it is important to me to keep. I suppose this means I can only use google voice for voice mail and I cannot tie it into any voip calling.

I am thinking about trying Groove ip next. I saw a version for sale by don't know yet if they have a few version. This seems pretty easy to set up and use.

My main concern is something seemless for wifi calling and receiving using my t mob number but not minutes. I will use my minutes on the road.

Anyone doing this successfully with their tmob number without having to program tasker and doing a complex micky mouse thing?
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Hey guys anyone using the cool Google Voice voicemail integration with the call log available since ICS? It appears to work well, but the notification sound and vibration don't go off, also the notification LED doesn't work with it. There is an option to change voicemail in the dialer app - menu - settings - voicemail - service, but it can't be changed from "my carrier" to Google Voice", presumably cause this plan doesn't allow it. I'm not sure if this would fix the notifications, but can anyone see if the notification sounds, vibration and LED for this function is working? It could also be the CM nightly I'm running, but I doubt it.
[Nexus 4 General] adamr240:
What is up with the ad at the bottom of the page that says this service is $50 a month? Did the price change?
[Nexus 4 General] frusso21:
I have 2 questions about the sim card-

I already have a T-Mobile (pre-paid I guess) sim card lying around that I can cut down to a micro sim. Can I use that for the $30 monthly 4G plan?

If not and I must buy another one how much will it cost?
[Nexus 4 General] admiez:
It should work as long as it has never been activated. A new micro sim will cost 99 cents + tax from the T-Mobile website. It comes with about 3 dollars of credit.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
Have any of you successfully activated your tmobile sim over the phone on the this $30 prepaid plan? I picked up a sim from my local tmobile store but was informed that they do not give you an activation code with it when you pick it up in store. The only way to get an activation code is to order off their site or at walmart. So now I don't have an activation code but the person in the store said you could sign up over the phone or in store (at the time, my nexus 4 hadn't arrived yet so I planned on doing it over the phone). I was just wondering if anyone has had success getting this plan over the phone since it is advertised as "web-exclusive" on tmobile's site.
[Nexus 4 General] mikelee28:
Yes...took about 10 min.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] nobrakes:
You need an activation code. Same thing happened to me. Only other way if you let them activate it on their other plans.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
Did they require an activation code?

That's disappointing. The person in the store assured me that it would work over the phone with the prepaid. I guess I'll order a card from their site so I get the code with it.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
The code is not imprinted on the sim card itself?
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
Just order it off the site... I ordered two of them and out came out to $2.12.. IMO its well worth it, and they should be here today the same day as the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
No the only thing printed on the card is the sim card number. The activation code usually comes in a little directions paper with sim card. If you get it at the store, they take the paper and only give you the sim card.

That's what I will do but I was trying to avoid doing so because I will have to wait for it to be mailed. I have the nexus already but no service so I was trying to get service a soon as possible without waiting for mail.
[Nexus 4 General] :
If I finished all of my data and minutes can i renew my plan early? My due date was for every 3rd of the month buti got it moved to the 27th two Weeks later im trying to do it Againb but they're giving me some bs about it can only be done once... As The ConsumerI Feel It Should Be In My Right To Be Able To Dictate WhenI Want To Pay and renew
[Nexus 4 General] jeff5891:
For people who already have a prepaid account with tmobile and what to switch to the $30 dollar plan and keep your same number you must port your number to another carrier first and then port back to tmobile on a new account set up for the $30 plan. Tmobile says they do not port tmobile numbers to different accounts in tmobile. So I will be trying to port to the At&t $2 daily plan and then port back and see if that works. Will ask before I actually try
[Nexus 4 General] BBM-Lee:
Oiy.. All these pages of messages.. I read a lot of them but can't seem to find any super awesome solution...

Basically, there's no simple solution for:

1. Never use T-Mobile's number (i.e. VOIP GV calls only)

2. Have GV as your caller ID for all calls & text

3. Have integration with the native dialer & SMS

I have decent T-mobile signal everywhere.. and where I don't have it, I have good WiFi.. Can't seem to find a good solution to make this work though... I've been using Groove IP Lite and so far it looks like crap.. but that's probably because you can't test half the features without going through the buy-to-try system..

So i guess I'm looking to see if groove will do what I want before I hand them money.. or if there's an alternate solution that I could throw a one time payment at that doesn't involve setting up a server
[Nexus 4 General] mtwow789:
Can't you use talkatone with GV number?

Albeit I am not using N4 right now, but using iphone as I am waiting for n4 to ship, but talkatone works well with iphone.

I already ported my main number to GV and have it connected with talkatone. So I can get inbound calls using talkatone.

Only complain I am having is, inbound call quality is really bad for some reason. Most of the time, people complain about static noise that they just hang up.

Outbound call works well though.

I tried talkatone on my android phone, and it seems to had worse UI, but it functions well.

I heard sipdroid works well too. Check out howardsforum.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Do you need to use the native message for SMS?

If no, then its pretty easy to achieve all 3 with a gv gateway such as pbxes or simonics.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
I've updated my guide to include GV SMS Integration Free

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29219003

Direct link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mdrtools.apps.gvintegration.free

Hopefully someone can test it with the N4 to confirm that it works. Is working fine for me on my Sensation. Have it working pretty much completely transparently. "Sending" is replaced with "Sending with Google Voice" which is a real nice touch. Have it set to always use GV, except when replying to an SMS sent to the cell #.

Two "downsides":

1. Must provide GV credentials in order to send messages (can setup google with 2-step, or create a separate GV Google account)

2. Must have the stock Google Voice app installed still (just disable text notifications and forget the app exists...)

If you want to uninstall the app, make sure to disable integration, or else SMS will be borked.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
When you use native message app to send gv text, does it get sync in gv inbox. I use gv texting from PC a lot and having history is important.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
It will not be able to keep up with externally sent messages (via GV app or site etc), so you end up with a one-way conversation in your native SMS.

As for whether it would be stored in GV itself, for sure. That's the whole idea of GV :)
[Nexus 4 General] haimmortal:
Idea

First, thanks to everyone for all the helpful information. I read every single comment in the thread.

Here's my idea, which I did not see mentioned in the 62 pages of replies. The goal is have only 1 number for all incoming and outgoing calls and texts (including MMS), but not use too many minutes on the $30 T-Mobile plan. Also, I'd like to not use a separate phone app, like Vonage, for making and receiving calls. (Note, I am coming from Verizon to T-Mobile and will use an unlocked N4.)

1. Port my current Verizon number to T-Mobile when I open the prepaid plan.

2. Open a Google Voice Lite account using that same cellular number.

3. Configure SipDroid with my GVLite credentials, configure in the native phone app, delete SipDroid, and make outbound calls via VoIP in the native dialer. (I tested this using SipDroid, my regular Google Voice credentials, and WiFi for VoIP and the quality was great. I am not sure if this is also possible with Google Voice Lite.)

4. Accept incoming calls through the T-Mobile network, thus using up the allotted airtime minutes.

5. Keep a balance of $10-15 on my prepaid plan to cover any minutes of inbound calls I go over.

6. Receive unlimited SMS and MMS as usual to my cell number.

If this works, the monthly charges will be in the range of $40-45 (about half of what I currently pay with Verizon). It'll also be either the same price or cheaper than Straight Talk, and provide more certainty on the data cap.

The picture looks like this: 250 incoming talk minutes, unlimited outgoing talk minutes, unlimited SMS/MMS, 5GB data at HSPA+. Any reason this wouldn't work? I don't have my N4 yet, so I can't try it out.

Edit- Another benefit besides having just one number for talk/text is that this requires no additional programs to handle text message integration. In fact, after setting up SipDroid and configuring the native dialer app with the credentials, the SipDroid app can be deleted as well. In other words, stock dialer for all calls and stock messaging app for all SMS and MMS. Also, since this doesn't use call forwarding via full Google Voice, the stock dialer won't intercept incoming calls for VoIP, and thus is won't drain the battery to continually monitor.
[Nexus 4 General] damon7620:
Well comparing this phone to my old Samsung Galaxy S2 (T-989) this phone flys! 4G seems 10x faster ad gps lock is amazing. Ive been on the $30 Tmobile plan for over a year. No complaints here!
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I'm about to test it. One thing though, the "free" version seems to be a trial, from the reviews. Also, many reviews aren't very generous, but it doesn't have that many reviews in the first place. I'm making a nandroid first, obviously.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
The other downside not to be overlooked is it seems to have been abandoned by the Developer...
[Nexus 4 General] Disastorm:
Did you read that on their website or did you actually call them and have them tell you that, because they actually did that for me as long as I was the owner of both accounts, which I was.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
It looks like it may not fully work with the native SMS app in JB. One user has reported that while the texts do show up, there is no notification.

I am imagining that GoSMS may still work as far as notifications go, but someone will need to test it since I'm still waiting for my N4.........
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I went to the help file to see what the difference was between the integration types, and it opened the browser, to a dead website mdrtools.com. Not a good sign. I've emailed the developer with this specific question (among others), see what they have to say.

---------- Post added at 07:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:21 PM ----------

I can confirm that, on CM10.1 here. the thing is that the official GV app integrates perfectly with the SMS app, but only for receiving messages. What a half-baked approach. If the GV SMS integration is enabled, then it breaks the official GV app's ability to receive message notifications from the SMS app. Even when I turn on the phone, I do get then pending SMS notifications, but once the GV integration app starts up (icon and message appear), then it stops working.
[Nexus 4 General] sporez:
I can add to this. On the stock ROM notifications from the messages app did not work with the gv SMS integrator. However they are working on aokp, oddly enough.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
It could have to do with older code being used in the AOKP quick message patch
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
One thing, that app does some deep changes. It borked the native GV's ability to deliver messages through the native SMS app, even after disabling (and the auto restart), uninstalling, wiping (factory reset on TWRP), and restoring my nandroid! Is that even possible? I uninstalled, then installed again the GV app, and it still can't deliver the messages to the SMS app.

EDIT: it most likely did not do this, explanation in my next post below.
[Nexus 4 General] streets814:
ordering?

Anyone else having a problem getting the $30 plan from the Walmart site? I just tried 3 times now (over a 4 hour period) only to get an email starting the order I made was candled by Walmart each time?
[Nexus 4 General] frusso21:
Can I use any old T-Mobile SIM card or do I need a prepaid 4G kit?
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
As long as it wasn't ever used before. Do note that older cards won't be able to use wifi calling (not that it's currently available for the N4..)

Can't re-use SIMs

And for activating, you'd need an activation code.. $0.99 free ship ain't bad. Comes with $3.33 initial value too, so you come out ahead anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] frusso21:
It's still attached to the card so it's unused. I went through the activation steps for it online and it seems a code from an activation kit is required. I'm sure if I talk on the phone with someone and have them activate it they'll worry about that step.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
I tried that myself. I couldn't get a representative on the phone. It's all automated and the automated voice will keep asking for the activation code. There is no way around it. I was, however, told that if I take my card into a tmobile store without its activation code, they would activate it there for me on the $30 plan.
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeeunix:
T-Mobile's web site says:

Q: What if I can’t find my activation booklet/code?

A: If you’ve lost or misplaced your activation code, call our activations line for assistance: 1-877-778-2107.

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-support-activate
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Can people using the Google Voice app test something please? I said above that the GV SMS Integration app screwed the GV app's ability to integrate incoming messages to the SMS app, even after the SMS integration app being disabled and uninstalled. I could have sworn it was working before, but it seems the native GV app's incoming message integration doesn't work at all. Might have been bugged with one of the couple latest GV updates. Can anyone test if it works? Go to the Google Voice app's settings -> sync and notifications -> receive text messages, and change it to "via the messaging app. Then have someone send you a text message to your GV number.

I've tried this with 3 different phones now, and it's not working, though two of them have no service (using them as wi-fi phones), but I don't see how that should matter.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] crivinz:
I've got everything set up and can make and receive calls (using Gvoice-sipdroid-pbxes), but when the N4 has been left alone for a while in airplane mode with wifi on, it won't receive calls. Once I turn off airplane mode, calls come in over wifi again. I've gone into the advanced wireless settings and set it to always be on. Is there some other setting I just don't have right?
[Nexus 4 General] landola:
I tried and it works. The text showed up in the messaging app; however, if I reply the text directly in the messaging app, the receiver will see my carrier number, not the GV number.
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
If I set it to receive texts in the Messaging App then I will indeed receive messages there. If I initiate a new conversion from the messaging app the person I send to sees my carrier number. However if I respond to a message then the person I send to sees my GV number. Very strange. These kind of inconsistencies make me want to just give out my carrier number and forget GV.
[Nexus 4 General] landola:
There are two ways to have the text show up in the messaging app:

1. On the GV web, ask to forward the text to the phone. I didn't use this option for awhile, but if I remember correctly, the text will show up in the messaging app and when I reply it, the receiver will see the GV number.

2. In the GV app, ask to show the text in the messaging app. When I reply it, the receiver will see the carrier number.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Thanks, that's how it should work. I almost went insane yesterday trying to figure out how in the world that supposed mess-up from the sms integration app could survive a nandroid restore, and then I accidentally erased my data partition! So I just restored to stock firmware, unrooted, and even then it wasn't working. The other phones weren't working either, as I said. I wonder if this depends on some online setting that somehow wasn't working yesterday, I'll have to try again when I get home.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
That's fantastic. If that's the case, then GV SMS Integrator shouldn't really be that needed, except for not being able to initiate texts over GV with the native app.

I don't understand what you mean by "inconsistencies". That sounds like a design feature. The assumption is you want to keep continuity with whichever number is used. If someone texts your cell, your reply will be from the cell. If someone texts your GV, your reply should be with GV.

I didn't know there was even such a feature in the GV app. I had always toggled forwarding to cell on the web interface before--- mainly when I was going to be traveling to areas with no data. Otherwise, I can't stand the encapsulations.
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
At the bottom you'll see a nice flowchart about GV and native SMS integration. I haven't been able to get messages from GV to display in the native SMS application, but I don't really care that much.

http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...ard-texts-only-when-im-not-using-google-voice

Right click on the image, and select view image. You can actually read what it says.
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
Yeah I think you're both right. I forgot about the forwarding in the web based setup. I had that checked on one phone but not the other which is where the inconsistencies were coming from. So that was my fault obviously.

So.. with the web config unchecked and the GV app set to receive notification through the SMS app I receive texts only through the SMS app. What I don't like about that feature is that when received via SMS app the number you see if a forwarded number from Google. So a conversation between a single contact gets split up into multiple conversations because their messages are going to come in on different numbers.

If I check, then uncheck the box on the web it changes the settings on my phone.

It would seem as though the web option should be checked if you want to receive texts on that phone and then use the setting in Google voice to choose which app should notify you. When you use the SMS app you loose the phone number of the other person. If you initiate a conversation from your SMS you end up using your carrier number....

I've just been using the GV app for texting since it preserves the name and number of my contacts as well as always sends out with my GV number.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Just had the worst experience trying to get my number ported to Straight talk, my girlfriend was lucky. But it's got shaky service where we live so going the T-Mobile route.

Anyone from Tucson that has T-Mobile? Good service?
[Nexus 4 General] jayceekay:
Anyone here in NYC with one of these plans? What are your experiences? I'm on a $50 prepaid plan fwiw, if I'm in the wrong place please let me know!
[Nexus 4 General] Mr Ian B:
With only 100 mins on this plan, how else can we make calls w/o going over or using google voice?

Tia,

Ian B
[Nexus 4 General] chaco81:
I'm also on this plan. Love it. No regrets from vz gnex
[Nexus 4 General] haimmortal:
In case anyone is interested in knowing how this works out, here's an update. I attempted to do it today by opening a Google Voice Lite account with my current mobile number. I was able to make outbound calls with VoIP but caller ID showed a generic 760 area code number (rather than my cell number). From my understanding, this is unavoidable with outbound calls unless you're using a full Google Voice account (downside being you can't receive MMS).

I haven't yet found a great solution that allows me to do what I want. Will keep at it and update if I find anything.