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[Nexus 4 General] neod192:
carus ayingda

You can do it in advance, but keep in mind the balance in your account expires after 90 days, so don't add $200 to your account and let T-mobile take out $30 each month. This was news to me until I read if on XDA recently and T-mobile support confirmed it.
[Nexus 4 General] pcorlatan:
I've been on this plan for a few months and have loved it but I now need more minutes so I'm gonna switch to the $50 plan which starts throttling after 500 MB. Does anyone know whether this is 500 MB total data usage (including any data speed like edge, 3G and 4G) or do they actually measure how long 4G has been used and throttle after using 500 MB of 4G? My thinking is they count any speed of data usage in the 500 MB then restrict to 2G speeds. Can anyone clarify for sure? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Anything $100 or more expires in 365 days. It tells you this when you add the money from your account online.
[Nexus 4 General] donwhall70:
This should answer your question ;)

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1281
[Nexus 4 General] fatttire:
This is a HUGE issue for me, and its so frustrating I've considering switching to AT&T just so I can download MMS sometime this millenium.

Why would WiFi matter? Anyone know a good troubleshooting thread?
[Nexus 4 General] monkeybox:
T-Mobile customer service says yes you have to switch off WiFi for MMS pictures to send. For large pictures 3mp and up. Its the phone,not a service thing. Bunk tho...
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
MMS doesn't work over WiFi so that makes no sense.
[Nexus 4 General] monkeybox:
I have no idea why this is. I couldn't figure out why pictures wouldn't send, I looked on XDA, then called T-Mobile tech support. They said WiFi overrides mobile data on the N4. He also shot me down about wifi calling, not a feature the N4 supports. O well, Magic Jack App works for unlimited calls using data instead of minutes. But darn it. The guy guessed that it was only on larger data, as I could still send emails,SMS, and MMS smaller pictures, I use QuickPic and shrink pics down to 1mp or less and it sends them without turning off WiFi. If you know something I don't, please :) don't keep it to yourself.
[Nexus 4 General] fatttire:
No I mean anything is better than what I know. I won't put it past anyone for something totally illogical to happen...

Hah sorry but I have a hard time trusting T-Mobile that its the phone and not their service... If this was the phone then why aren't there mms-gate threads?
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Yessssss

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/24/metropcs-shareholders-said-to-have-approved-t-mobile-merger/
[Nexus 4 General] ezegm:
Just out of curiosity. If I add the mobile hotspot feature, how much data can I use before it's throttled and I'm on the $30 5GB prepaid plan.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
5GB...
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I have a couple of questions about your method. It seems like some work, but I would like to minimize latency, and as you say GV is not optimized for this. So, with this method, does it require a special app? I presume that the g729 audio should be coming out and going into the phone (to/from your home server where transcoding to/from GV would happen), since that's usually the bottleneck.

Do you know how much delay difference would be compared to Groove IP on a strong WiFi connection?

Also, I've set up pbxes.org before, but there was a deal-breaking bug, which I'm not sure if it's the same mentioned before, which is that the phone would only ring for max. 15 seconds. There was an option at the site to change it, and it worked for less time, but not for more.
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
You are right about the transcoding. It is fairly difficult to set up a PBX server, but it's definitely worth it. It's much better than using GrooveIP. I had trouble with GrooveIP over good WiFi, and I normally never have issues with my method, unless I have poor service and I'm calling over HSPA.

Calls sound great over WiFi. Even if I'm remotely connected. g.711u sounds slightly better than g729, but you can't use g.711u over HSPA+, and you need a strong WiFi connection for it. Occasionally, will change to g.711u while at home, if plan to talk to someone for a while. I use CSipSimple and it's easy to change the codec settings. CSipSimple is my favorite soft phone because it supports g729, and there a bunch of options for echo cancellation. The native dialer doesn't support g729, or Speex, and there are no options for echo cancellation. Also, I've had issues with missing calls.

I'm not very familiar with pbxes.com. I've only used it for a few minutes. You can also get an account at voip.ms, buy a DID, and pay less than a penny to place and receive calls. It also has many more options than pbxes.com, and you can use the g729 codec. This is a lot easier than setting up a server yourself, because all you have to do is plug your voip.ms credentials into CSipSimple.
[Nexus 4 General] muyoso:
You need to go over and read through the thread on the Galaxy Nexus forums about this plan and its setup. This thread needs to be closed or heavily curated. A new thread created with a ridiculously detailed OP explaining every detail about the plan and the setup for the phone would be ideal. There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1646755

I will try and lay out the basic gist of what the plan is and the ideal way to use it, at least for me.

The plan is this: $30 a month prepaid. You can set up autopayment so you don't have to remember each month to add money. It comes with 100 Tmobile minutes, no free nights, no free weekends, no free mobile to mobile. Just 100 minutes and thats it. Unlimited texting and 5gb of high speed data, with unlimited throttled data after you hit that 5gb threshold.

So here is how I use the plan: I leave wifi on all the time, never toggling it off. When I am connected to wifi, Tasker, an Android app, automatically turns on Airplane mode for the cell radio only. When I leave an area where I am connected to wifi, Tasker automatically turns off airplane mode for the radio and I connect back to Tmobile's network. The reason for airplane mode is that Google Voice forwards to both GChat and the Tmobile number at all times,and if I left the radio on I would receive both the Tmobile call and the VOIP call while on wifi. I have an app called SipDroid running, which is essentially a front end for VOIP. I have set SipDroid to only function on wifi. SipDroid prompts you to set up a PBXes.org account when you first launch the app, as long as you already have Google Voice installed. PBXes is the company that is providing the VOIP service free of charge. PBXes gives you 2000 minutes for free, that I use over wifi. You can attempt to use those minutes over Tmobile's cellular network by simply enabling it in SipDroid, but I have not had the best of luck doing that.

So the result of that setup is this. When I am connected to wifi, I automatically receive calls over wifi NOT using Tmobile's minutes. In fact, it cannot use Tmobiles minutes because the cellular radio is literally off. As soon as I walk outside of wifi range, and lose connection to wifi, the phone automatically connects back to Tmobile and any calls received will be using Tmobiles minutes. This also gives you ridiculously good battery life while connected to wifi, with zero loss of functionality.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Thanks. I've been reading the link you provided before, and it's even more work than I thought, what with the OS installation and all that. So it really has to be a dedicated computer running the server. I thought I could just use my HTPC which is turned on all the time anyway.

I would probably still try it, but I think I'm gonna wait for a month or so and see if Google extends free calling on GV/chat through 2013.

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I have another question though. How does CSipSimple behave when there's an incoming call on the cell? This is a problem when forwarding the GV call to your cell number as well, since the phone's dialer just takes over and it can't be dismissed without dismissing the call as well (which would also dismiss the GV internet call). The only apps I tried that even attempt to deal with this are Groove IP and subscription-paid Talkatone.
[Nexus 4 General] armandosal:
So if I go to tmobile they will give me a new number but Google voice will still be my old number?
[Nexus 4 General] Disastorm:
I think if you go from another carrier to t-mobile you can transfer the number, but if you go from t-mobile to t-mobile (like for example pay-as-you-go to monthly 4g) you can call up t-mobile after you activate the new number and get them to transfer the old number to the new one.

You are incorrect. The plan is Wal-mart AND Web exclusive, so, yes, you can activate the 5gb 30$ plan online using only the t-mobile micro sim.
[Nexus 4 General] FlukerFlakes:
I had my # ported to Tmobile. Up until i stupidly disabled my GV account, i had my ported cell # from Sprint as my Tmobile # AND my GV # never changed. ported Sprint # to Tmobile = Sprint # = GV #
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
For me, I only use the plan minutes while driving and maybe on the street, and Groove IP on Wifi at work or home. This works out just fine cause I don't talk for very long in the car. But if your frequent callers have smartphones (which pretty much everyone I know does) then using something like Viber works out pretty well. Even Skype does, but Viber has the advantage of not having to be logged in. Doesn't work with BT headset profile on my phone though (goes through the phone mic and out of the BT speakers with which I assume is A2DP). But it works OK over HSPA. There are many others like it such as Line or Tango, it's very likely some or most of your friends are already using one of those.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Thank you. I have read the plan but I was hoping I may have missed a feature or perhaps something had been added since I last checked it out.

I have used tasked for turning off data before, that is a great tip.

I do most of my calling at home anyhow but on occasion I do have some fairly long business meetings on the road. I suppose I will end up using my tmob minutes in the car and I will use the set up you described at home. Even if I go over on minutes I am sure I can keep the total rate down fairly low.

And as someone mentioned, I could possibly get away with using Skype occasionally while on the road.

Thanks for your help

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Misfit77:
Thanks for the great information. I entered my Pbxes.org credentials into CCipSimple but I seem to be stuck at "Registering". Anyone else have this issue?
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
I have not used csipsimple because I saw people reporting similar issues as yours. But other people have managed to use csipsimple. You may want to do some research.

I use sipdroid instead.

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I have used skype android app a lot a year ago. The biggest problem is it's a battery hog when on 3g. Does skype app now allow push mode?
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
There is probably something wrong with the credentials. Use the basic wizard and make sure everything is correct.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
osi13,

A quick google seems to suggest that G729 is supported by pbxes.org (http://www4.pbxes.com/forum/print.p...7&page=1&sid=84c67bca2ed678e2c2bca8f0aaea1e5a) Would this be correct? I assume "pass through" would mean that pbxes.org doesn't do the transcoding, so with CSipSimple it should work, no?

EDIT: Never mind, that's only for a premium account. I guess I could try Speex, though if the 15-second bug is still there then it's probably a no go.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Not so much a Tmobile prepaid question, but this has been on my mind for a while.

So callingmart.com has the $30 cards for 29.70 and even less with their codes. Also, you get 30 callingmart points ($.30) for every $30 card you buy. Nice. Definitely going to use it.

Now, question #1

How does one get their monthly codes? Seen the current one (gvng125) on forums, but where can I get them in a reliable, quick, and clean fashion

#2

Do I have to make an account to get callingmart points (my guess is yes, but just to be sure)

#3 big question

How does the tmobile prepaid credit system work? Do you deposit $x and the $30 plan will take $30 a month automatically, along with the $.10 a minute over 100 minutes? Does this mean I can buy any of the $30 callingmart cards, or even a $50 card? Does the credit in my account have to be enough for tax as well as the $30 itself?

...

Or do I have to buy a certain card only?

#3 is obviously the biggy, and the only thing I'm seriously pulling my hair out about.
[Nexus 4 General] Telemachus13:
1: You can get the codes from their facebook page, or sign up for emails

2: Yes, you need to make an account

3: You are correct; any T-Mobile card will work. (The auto-load one is particularly convenient.) You don't need any extra in your account for tax either.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Thanks!

Just to clarify then, how do they charge me for tax if I do not need it in my account
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
Nice tip on the callingmart thing. Thanks guys.
[Nexus 4 General] FallN:
Tax is incurred at point of sale so if you are buying from a place (like callingmart) that doesn't charge tax, then you don't get charged any tax. Period.

So if you buy the $30 card/PIN from callingmart all you pay is $30 (if you use a code or there's a sale you pay less) when you input the PIN into your T-Mobile account.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
FWIW, yesterday I tried using CSipSimple and Sipdroid. CSipSimple worked (registered and called) fine on my phone, a Galaxy Exhibit 4G running GB. But when I tried different codecs, the Speex 16 and 32kHz variants would not work, got an error message when the call connected. Speex 8kHz worked only for outbound calls, for inbound calls, the other party could not hear (I had two phones), but inbound audio could be heard. With Sipdroid I could force Speex 11kbps and it works fine. I haven't found much make-or-break differences between the two apps otherwise.
[Nexus 4 General] ezegm:
Even with the hotspot feature?
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Yes. It doesn't give you more gigs, only the ability to tether. Which is easily worked around for free.
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
Actually that's false. If/when you use up your 5gb data then sign up for hotspot, you get another 5gb of data for the remainder of the month.

So in essence, you get 10gb data per month

if you activate hotspot for that month then cancel before the end of billing cycle. Repeat and rinse for profit.

$30 data + $15 hotspot = $45/10gb 4g of data per month.
[Nexus 4 General] Riverdales27:
Once you use your 5gb 4g, it goes down to edge right?
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Yup
[Nexus 4 General] M0D1441:
Count me in :D This is with no doubt the best smartphone plan anyone can get, i get 10-20MB down so no reason to miss LTE, even though i'll get that soon. I switched from a d2att to a Nexus 4 and i'm loving it, i miss the removable battery and storage but other than that everything is much improved.
[Nexus 4 General] louyaorong:
Does that mean I only need to pay $30???
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
No, you pay the normal $30 data + $15 for the additional hotspot = $45 (10gb data)
[Nexus 4 General] louyaorong:
Then, why cancel it?
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
He's taking advantage of the system. He doesn't tether for the first 5gb or uses methods to get around the upsell page. Once he depletes those 5gb, he signs up for the $15 hotspot, which resets the 5gb, effectively giving him 10gb for the month.

He cancels so he can do it again next month. Otherwise, he'll "only" have 5gb the following month and still have to pay the extra $15 but with legal tethering (the way it was meant to be..).
[Nexus 4 General] ogp:
Do shortcodes for minute balance still work? I believe #999# used to work but now all I get is account balance ($) and #225# is basically the same information. I was using Prepay Widget light to have a quick idea of data/minutes used/available.
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
^^This
[Nexus 4 General] jirafabo:
Not sure but I do know you can use this link http://ma.web2go.com/home.do to check your minutes from your phone's browser. However, it doesn't work on wifi so just make sure you're on data when you open it.

I'm gonna check out that app you mentioned.
[Nexus 4 General] Telemachus13:
You can try #MIN# and #WEB# for minutes and data usage, respectively.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
Well honestly since we have a throttled data plans what would it matter to tether anyway. T-Mobile is double dipping on the 5gbs with the plan if you add the hotspot on (the way its meant to be)
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
I use the My Account app by T-Mobile in the market.
[Nexus 4 General] Riverdales27:
Which one there's two of them.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.selfhelp
[Nexus 4 General] ogp:
Prepay Widget

I learned about it via a thread on XDA. I like it because I can configure widgets with the response of USSD codes and have them update when I select them.

Thanks. Unfortunately, the app configures the keyboard to be numbers only and I can't enter letters.

I have used that as well but I like having widgets on my desktop that'll update when selected.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Make it so the letters correspond with the numbers on a T9. So #MIN# would be #646#
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
Ordered my refill today and wanted to give you props for this, it works but you have to go thru PayPal.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Can someone repeat the link for that offer?

Sent from my shiny new, scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Here you go:

https://prepaid-refill.com

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
Thanks, I used to use them for boost mobile as well but they stopped getting deals for boost.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Anyone using T-Mobile in Wichita ks ?

Wondering what the service is like.

Also can you get a free Sim card ?

Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
They simply have no idea what they are talking about. SMS and MMS can not send over wifi. It just isn't technically possible. The N4 doesn't have any magical T-Mobile software installed (it doesn't have any T-Mobile specific software installed).
[Nexus 4 General] monkeybox:
I don't think they said it uses WiFi,just that for some reason when WiFi is on, WiFi overrides larger data transfer,if your not getting good data,3g or what have you, and since MMS doesn't go through WiFi,which is dumb because why not,I know of other phones that would let you, I'm guessing it causes a conflict somewhere. I don't dismiss T-Mobiles tech support, but it seems like its just a job to most of them, so I try to get a collective information stream from anyone who knows anything. There's a forum here on xda where they are trying to figure out WiFi calling for the N4,which I have hope for,but so far isn't looking promising.

MonkeyBox
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
Does Chrome on Android not automatically report it's using Android? Wouldn't Chrome users on the N4 experience issues? Could I just also use AOSP browser on my N10 and have it perma-set to Android UA?

I've also been hearing about that $50-for-$40 credit thing. So essentially I can buy one of those cards, add it to my T-mo account, and it'll take $30 a month for service, and then after 3 months I should have enough for a free month, and I can repeat this?
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
I have wifi on almost 24/7 and never had a problem sending or receiving pic messages. I am on the $30 tmo plan.

yes, as long as that website offers those cards, you can even buy 3-9 or maybe more at one time and only add the pin to tmo when you want.

I am not sure how tmo handles $50 cards. I bought a $100 card for $70 a few months back and it was good until some time in 2014 but I read that $50 cards were only good for 90 days. So adding 4 $50 cards instead of getting 6+ months you would get 3 and lose the rest of the money.

I dont see how that would work but it could be.
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
I posted this back in August. Since then, I've found it to be accurate.
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
"I think"

May need some kind of confirmation on if putting in $100+ expires after a year or not.
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
Well, my for my last refill, I added a $100 card. That was given an expiration date of one year out. Since I'm on the $30/month plan though, I won't have a chance to test it, as it will be used up in about 3 months. I'd suggest a call to customer service. They were very helpful when I was searching for/confirming the previous information.
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
Hmm, what of tethering to a computer for gaming? Would T-Mo find it suspicious or even know if I was playing (not downloading or patching) something like Guild Wars 2 or StarCraft?
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
in feb I bought a $100 card when I added it to my account it gave me a expiration date in 2014. That seems like a year out to me.

Depends on other factors I guess, for 4 days my comcast was down during that time I tethered my home network, including a dedicated webserver and nzb downloader. I used up almost 4gbs of data, At the start of that I never got the upsell page but at the end of it I did unless I changed the user agent however none of that affected my nzb downloads.

I am just glad I have home service as its faster and less prone to drop offs.:laugh:

Oh and the following month I tested it to see if I would still get the upsell page, nope.
[Nexus 4 General] louyaorong:
I want to know where I can find this plan. I searched, but no detail information.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Do the new prepaid plans use the pay $99 +$20 deal?
[Nexus 4 General] New Optimus:
You can download nzbs for tv shows, connecting to usnet servers and such? interesting. though why watch them on a 4.7 inch screen when its more convenient to watch them on a 47" tv. :D
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
There are no new prepaid plans to my knowledge. But the new post-paid plans are contract free. With good credit I suppose you could buy a new phone on the $99 + $20 arrangement and use it on prepaid, worst case you would have to activate on a post-paid plan and then switch to prepaid afterward. Unless I am missing something.
[Nexus 4 General] Telemachus13:
Unfortunately, I don't think you can do that. Currently if you cancel the postpaid plan tied to the instalment plan for your phone, you have to pay the rest of what you owe on the phone right then.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
can any of you google voice users do me a favor>

call you google voice number and see if voicemail is working, What I get is "You called the voicemail system, in you have a voicemail press star. If not please enter the ten digit phone number you wish to leave a voicemail with"
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
Working fine here.
[Nexus 4 General] superbowlmania:
Just wanted to confirm that Nexus 4 (unlocked pre-google update) is working on T-Mobile LTE in Houston with the $30 100 mins unlim text 5GB data. Download speeds are around 28-30 Mb/s. Overall experience: coverage sucks (probably since Nexus lacks antenna?), but wherever LTE is, it is FAST.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
I get great coverage in Las Vegas
[Nexus 4 General] SpookyTunes:
On a computer, go to https://www.google.com/voice and login to your account, then:

Google Voice > Settings > Phones > {Mobile Phone} > Advanced Settings > Voicemail Access > Yes

is what you are looking for.

Also check CallerID is enabled (or carrier default) in Phone settings.
[Nexus 4 General] biggiestuff:
If you end it manually it will go to T-Mobile voicemail but if you let it ring all the way through it will go to Google voicemail.
[Nexus 4 General] diaper84:
still available?

Hi,

Is $30 plan still available and tmobile or walmart store?

i'm leaving country soon and don't wanna pay for regular plan u know.

thanks in advance.