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[Nexus 4 General] maxspen:
GrooveIP

Not just because i love the name.. Lots of tweaks and options that allow you to make it work just right. Now no one even knows i'm calling over the internet... plus paying 30 bucks a month, can't beat that!
[Nexus 4 General] HTCMDA:
so how long did it take everyone's number to get ported?

did you use the option when signing up online or did you call after you activated and have them switch your number?

if you could specify which, and how long you waited.

thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Oh they know what phone you are using. I have the $30 plan and when I log in, T-Mobile shows a Nexus 4 on my account page. IMEI tells all unless its a random imported phone. But carriers most likely have a list of N4 IMEIs.
[Nexus 4 General] tylerwatt12:
From Google Voice, about a day for me (after I paid the unlock fee). for other carriers, 24-48 hours.
[Nexus 4 General] talhak91:
Did you activate with the Nexus 4, or did just switch sims from another phone?
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
I've used this SIM in a few other phones - most recently a GNEX which didn't show up on the my account page. Maybe because it was an international pre-Google Play version. I think TMo knows the N4 IMEIs because they sell the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] talhak91:
That's a good point. Hm, so if that's the case, there doesn't seem to much benefit to using a random IMEI. I wonder what gagdude will do now, unless he already knew this and had some other reason for wanting to use this loophole.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
TBH, I had no idea. I think I was reading something for the Gnex which is where I head about the fifteen 1s thing, But the N4 is probably a different story. I think I was getting overexcited and wanted to make sure I could activate the service before I got the phone (everything had to go perfectly haha) and I found things that I didn't need to. Well, guess I'll be entering the N4's IMEI then!
[Nexus 4 General] talhak91:
No worries! I'm the exact same way. I already have my microsim from t-mobile waiting, which i ordered weeks ago, and my phone will be here tomorrow! I've been trying to figure out how the porting process works during activation, as I'd like to have data on my nexus 4 sooner rather than later, and waiting for the port to complete would have been a drag. Another user earlier in this thread said it should be working from the get go, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
[Nexus 4 General] slopokdave:
I got Voice setup with SIP Droid, I can make outbound calls with it and can tell its using SIP Droid, thus not my minutes. But what about incoming calls to my google voice number? Is it using my minutes there? When I make outbound calls I get the SIP Droid interface; when I get an incoming call its my regular call interface.

edit: Nevermind, seems to be working now. :)
[Nexus 4 General] biggiestuff:
Does anyone know if you can use those 30 dollar refill cards at best buy to pay for your 30 dollar t-mobile plan?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/T-Mobil...968&skuId=1315725&st=tmobile refill&cp=1&lp=3
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Sure. Any T-mobile prepaid card will work. Although callingmart.com is currently the cheapest way (they almost always have a 3 or 5% coupon code).
[Nexus 4 General] biggiestuff:
Yeah I'm specifically looking at BB because i regularly get gift cards from there. Thanks for the information :)
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
You need to have speex 8kHz enabled in CSipSimple, and at the top of the list. If it's still not working. Under "Extensions" add "speex&ulaw&g729" to the "Allow" text box under "Device Options." This may be different, depending on the version of FreePBX. You need to install g729 for it to work, as it is not bundled with PIAF. You can find it here. You need to choose the Asterisk version, and your correct CPU architecture. There are instructions on the first page.
[Nexus 4 General] swedrows:
existing tmobile sim card to micro sim card

hey guys...quick questions since i can't seem to find the answer by searching these forums.

I currently have an LG G2x with the regular sized sim card using tmobiles $30 prepaid plan...i know the Nexus 4 takes a micro sim card....can i buy a micro sim card off the tmoble website and transfer my current number and account to that one, or do i need to buy a sim card cutter and cut my current card down to size? tmobile website has them for $0.99 and the sim card cutters on ebay are about $5 or more
[Nexus 4 General] namartlu:
After 1 week, my number finally got ported from VM to T-mobile. I can leave my HTC Evo V behind (handed over to my wife. :)
[Nexus 4 General] talhak91:
SUCCESS! Can't wait till my phone gets here later today! But wow, 1 week is a long time. My month ends over the weekend but hopefully that shouldn't be a problem if I get the port going today. (I hope...)
[Nexus 4 General] alrgeez:
i've read that you can take your sim to t-mobile and they can cut it for you free of charge. should call up a few t-mobile and see if they offer that service.
[Nexus 4 General] motoridersd:
I signed up for the plan when I got my phone. I tried to go into a store but they were unable to do it there, said only online or at Wal Mart. I went through the same problem several months ago when I tried out the Galaxy Nexus. I ordered the SIM online for free and got it at my door in a few days.

I have used Groove IP with my Google Voice account while at home, but not on WiFi, and it worked pretty well. Low latency is key, if you're on HSPA+ coverage, consistent HSPA+ coverage, you should have no problems. 100 ms or less makes VoIP work pretty well. If you drop to a higher latency data connection, your calls will suffer.

I have a lot of HSPA+ holes in my commute, a lot of them drop me to EDGE, so relying on VoIP for my calls is not a good strategy with T-Mobile in San Diego for me.

I also have some issues with the Groove IP app. It's a little cumbersome some times, and not very responsive, but for the benefit it provides, it's pretty awesome.

I have been running some speed tests here and there, and the fastest download I have seen with T-Mobile was 18 Mbps. I consistently get 5 Mbps and above, so that's pretty good.
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
Google voice+Wi-Fi is not enough. Use Groove IP with Google Voice to not use minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] tlopez1973:
Yeah I just looked it up except that the groove IP lite does not give you the option for 3G or 4G and the phone is for my daughter thanks for your replies
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
Groove IP is poor over 3G. She should use normal TMobile for that and Groove at home.
[Nexus 4 General] tlopez1973:
Yeah she's doing that
[Nexus 4 General] nicotheandroidguy:
Does this plan have LTE support?
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
Yes it does!
[Nexus 4 General] nicotheandroidguy:
Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] r00t4rd3d:
Does T-Mobile eventually block Androids built in Portable Wifi Hotspot with this plan?
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
I haven't experienced it when I tether.
[Nexus 4 General] overtheair:
Eventually, yes ... at least if you're tethering with a Windows PC and using IE, Chrome, or Firefox web browsers (and maybe others as well). You'll eventually see a webpage from T-Mobile prompting you to add a $15/month tethering option to your plan. You won't get the prompt if your Windows version browser identifies itself as an Android browser. Not sure what happens with a Linux or iOS browser.
[Nexus 4 General] flutie98:
Just wanted to share my recent experience as a new Nexus 4 owner and T-Mobile $30 plan convert.

I was originally on Virgin Mobiles $35 plan with an HTC Evo 3D, after the Nexus 4 price drop I jumped on it for a 16GB model.

Last night I called Virgin Mobile to get my real account number for porting purposes, they politely transferred me to their cancellations dept where I proceeded to ask for my account number (not stating why). They offered me a 1 month credit to use towards service or a new phone, I said thank you, and simply repeated that that I just needed my account number. The rep understood what I was about to do and asked why I was leaving VM and if there was anything he could do to get me to stay. I explained my coverage and speed issues and he said thank you for holding out so long and proceeded to give me my account number.

I had missed the recent micro-SIM activation kit deals so I paid a full $10 for an activation KIT through t-mobile.com. Last night around 7pm using the activation number and the "real" account number from VM I activated the SIM card online and used the online port number option during activation. After adding a $30 top up card from target (10% off + 5% Red card) I had a text message saying my new number was activated. Data worked instantly and I could send texts and calls but not recieve. By 930pm both voice and text worked both directions as the number finished the porting process. I received no text that it had completed, calls and texts just suddenly started appearing on the Nexus 4.

So far so good. I'm very impressed that at no point did I have to call t-mobile about porting or send/receive problems, its pretty impressive IMO.
[Nexus 4 General] Swords.Grizzlebee:
I tether data occasionally from my N4 to N7 and it hasn't been blocked as of yet. Been doing it off and on for around six months. Probably because it's another Android device.
[Nexus 4 General] bob60626:
Oddly, I tether from my TMobile S2 to my (also TMobile, but not on a data plan) 7.0+ occasionally with no problems, but have gotten the upsell several times when using the same sim in my i717 while NOT tethering.
[Nexus 4 General] AtrixShan:
I occasionally tether my Nexus 10 when I travel for work. No email from Tmo yet... You just have to try it since tethering is not suppose to be part of the plan and no one knows for sure how Tmo catch the "unsupported" thethering.
[Nexus 4 General] xperimentul:
Micro Sim Cards on Sale for $0.99

No need to enter a promo code, it's a web-only discount.
[Nexus 4 General] wiswis:
I bought 2 micro is sims on Saturday for 10 dollars each, if I call Tmobile will they &I've me back the 9 dollars?
[Nexus 4 General] jdubau55:
What is your zip code if I might ask to check your coverage? My data speeds are terrible even though my area is supposed to have pretty good 3G coverage going by their map.

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Order a SIM from the prepaid T-Mobile site. They are 99 cents right now. Once you get the SIM. Go to the prepaid T-Mobile site and find where to activate service. I just searched tmobile prepaid activation and there it was. Enter the activation code, enter you SIM #, select the correct $30 plan and voila! I don't see why people have trouble. I thought it was super easy.
[Nexus 4 General] zakkyzombie:
I already have a plan with them. So just stop paying my current number and get a new one?

Actually I have to reup today. So I'll go ahead and do this

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Bob Smith42:
Nice, thanks. I just ordered two Micro SIM at the bottom of this page. The total cost was .99 + .99 + .14 (tax) = $2.12 USD. Free shipping.
[Nexus 4 General] slix00:
Are there multiple $30 plans available through online activation? I thought that the 1500 minute plan was only available in stores.

I ask because I need to activate the 1500 minute plan for someone, but I have no way of knowing if the 1500 minute plan is selectable online.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
It was selectable when I was activating my SIM. But I'm on the "other" (main) $30 plan.
[Nexus 4 General] jdubau55:
You'll need a new SIM. So I guess yes, get a new number. You'll need a new SIM though from my understanding.

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Yes. There are two $30 plans. They are easily to distinguish between. So it shouldn't be hard to choose the right one.
[Nexus 4 General] AtrixShan:
The 1500 minutes option is there when signing up online with a new SIM. I just did that last month for a phone.
[Nexus 4 General] xperimentul:
Sorry I wish I could help but I have no clue. I'd give them a call, doesn't hurt to try. GL!
[Nexus 4 General] r00t4rd3d:
Goto this page:

http://support.t-mobile.com/community/contact_us

On the right you will see "Chat Now", give them your order number then tell them you want the $18 credited to your account as prepaid credit.
[Nexus 4 General] ferrocene:
I bought the Sim over a week ago and still waiting. The nexus 4 itself got here faster than a damn micro Sim.
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
I'm quite perplexed right now... hopefully someone can help me out.

For 2 weeks now, I have been going to prepaid-refill.com's website and nothing came up. It just shows "Oops! Google Chrome could not find prepaid-refill.com"

I just thought their website has been down. I go their website on my Note 2, and it worked! I come home and tried it on my phone and my computer... their website doesn't work.

Here's the weird part, I turned off Wi-Fi and the website shows up again.

Is comcast blocking prepaid-refill.com?
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Did you try several browsers?

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
Yes. I tried Firefox, Dolphin and chrome on my Note 2.

I tried Chrome, Firefox and IE on my computer. Also tried another computer in the household.

I'm quite baffled about this situation. I don't know if it's actually comcast or something else in play, but it's weird..

Last time I could access the website on my computer was Sept 3rd. I purchased the refill card as soon as I saw the website working. I check this website everyday.
[Nexus 4 General] arlenwoot:
No problems going to the site for me, and I'm using comcast. I don't use their dns servers so its possible they're blocking it that way, try using google's public dns or opendns.
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
I definitely might have to see how to work that.

I'm definitely intrigued on why this is happening though. A bit of an inconvenience :(

Also, thanks for your help :)
[Nexus 4 General] overtheair:
FWIW, I got the same thing until I put www. in front of the URL.

edit: But even that isn't working now.
[Nexus 4 General] Letitride:
Put my order in yesterday afternoon for 2 micro-Sim, they processed in & shipped out via UPS ground overnight, just checked the order status details - coming out of KY distribution/warehouse & passed thru WV this morning en route to NY, scheduled residential delivery is next Tuesday. Was going to get them on eBay and saw the sale, great deal - it costed more for them to ship (T-Mo sure have bulk shipping discounts) than what they charged me - all of $2.17 including tax for 2 micro-Sim.

Got a 5 years old active T-Mo P/P standard Sim with Gold Status and I'm going to use one of these to switch it over, and pop it into a borrowed N4 to play with it.

Between our ISP and the browsers, it's often a game of DNS, among other things - especially when connected wirelessly - I much rather go to a direct ethernet connection. The other solution is to boot into Linux & run the Firefox browser from there - much less headaches to deal with overall.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
For groove IP in coming calls on data, anyone else get both dialers popping up? I had to uncheck my T-Mobile number in Google voice account settings, and all is good
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
GrooveIP takes the forwarded calls via GTalk. So you have to uncheck the Forwarding to your T-Mobile number.

Groove Forwarding is a pretty simple, cheap app, that helps to automate this for when you don't have GrooveIP running.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snrblabs.bishop
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
I tried the www and it still doesn't work. I just thought this website must not really be that legit, hence the spotty website issues... but the fault was on my side. Quite unfortunate. :(.

That being said, if I buy the $100 refill card, do I have one year to use that card or 90 days?

I ask this because I bought the $50 card and it said I have 90 days to use it..:(
[Nexus 4 General] Riverdales27:
The last month I'm going to use this so I decided to use the whole 5gb. It would be nice if once you hit the limit it just shows 2g instead of hspa.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
It will say 90 days at first but that date keeps getting pushed back as they deduct the $30 every month to cover this plan.
[Nexus 4 General] bob60626:
I know, right? I don't mind getting throttled but I hate it showing 4g.
[Nexus 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
Oh! Gosh darn it. T-Mobile stated it'll expire in 89 days or whatever. That's why I never proceeded to purchase the $100 refill.

:mad:

Thanks for the info :)
[Nexus 4 General] paperWastage:
you hate it showing the 4G/H+ icon on your phone?

then manually set your phone to use 2G only in the settings.... you should get better battery life too, though worse latency since you are connecting to EDGE instead of 3G/4G
[Nexus 4 General] jonlee917:
Question am I screwed if I have burned through the data and 100 minutes of talk before the end of the month?
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
You're left with very slow internet and $0.10/min calls, hardly screwed. As far as pay-per-minute goes, that's about the cheapest rate you'll find from the big 4.
[Nexus 4 General] benjdm:
If you want, I think you have the option of having them 'shorten' this 30 day period and charging you $30 early to start the next 30 days early.
[Nexus 4 General] jonlee917:
Yes you do I called them last night and they renewed as a courtesy. thanks for the help. Now my job is to figure out which is best Talkatone or Groove ....also I dont wana have to download 50 apps to do one job so messaging voice etc in all one app.
[Nexus 4 General] nycebo:
Exactly! At first I was worried that I'd have a dead phone once I used up the 100 minutes/mth on the plan. Then, I realized that they charge only 10c overage if you seed the account. And, I wonder if we seed it with $100 if they will reduce that 10c fee by 15% for bonus minutes a la the Gold Rewards.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
I'm using groove IP full with Google voice and calls with data on hspa are clear,..why should I have 5gb of data when I only use a little for nothing, my as well use it for my other number(GV)
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
What do you mean by "seed" the account? I ran out of minutes while I was out, and I couldn't make any calls. It was a hassle to buy minutes online, and then refill.
[Nexus 4 General] Zainiak:
Wooohoooo! Tmo just fired up LTE at my house! I get about 20mbps down and 8 up. Still nowhere near my home internet, but I've noticed SMS and MMS send much faster for some reason
[Nexus 4 General] jdubau55:
I tried this plan out for about 2 weeks. This weekend sealed the deal. I drove to DC and tested out T-Mobile up there. While driving past the closest city with 4G I ran a speedtest. Results were solid. So the slow data speeds are just in my home stomping grounds. Not good. While in the DC area eating brunch yesterday I had no coverage. Had to sit my phone in just the right spot on the table to get EDGE. The building penetration coupled with the slow home area data speeds are just not worth the monthly savings. I switched over to NET10 today and so far their speeds (AT&T) are much better than T-Mobile. While I realize that I won't get 5GB of 4G data I know that I will get better overall coverage no matter where I am. The frequencies that AT&T uses are just naturally able to penetrate buildings better than T-mobile. It sucks because 100 minutes is more than enough. I wish other carriers had similar plans.
[Nexus 4 General] kingwaffle:
DC should have excellent coverage. I live in Columbus OH and I get fantastic speeds and good coverage. Only place I see my speed dip to EDGE are at the very center of my building (I work in a cave, more or less) or when I drive 10 minutes out of town.

In urban areas, it's excellent.
[Nexus 4 General] nycebo:
Basically, you can refill your account with an extra $10 and it will sit there on reserve in the event that you go over your 100 minute allowance. However, at month end, if you have autopay enabled, it may only debit your credit card $20 for your monthly prepaid plan because you already have $10 on the account. In that case, you will likely need to add another $10 to your account in order to maintain a reserve...you know, for occasions when you need to talk alot.
[Nexus 4 General] br0nx finest:
I'm thinking about getting this type of a plan in order to save coin, how are people doing w/ using the Vonage app? I'm going to give it a shot on my current Sprint SGS3 to see.

Ideally, for low price point and closeness to my current phone, I was thinking about getting a Nexus 4 and the $30 TMo plan. Any suggestions? Will I get better than I'm getting with Sprint or at least similar? 8/4Mbps is the norm when I'm in LTE areas (both at work in Scarsdale & home in the Bronx) I'm usually in one of those two places, I'm going to also check the coverage maps on TMo's site.

But mainly I'm just looking for real world experience, pref. in the NYC area.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
If you're trying to save money, grab a Nexus 4 (which can use LTE on T-Mobile if you can follow some instructions). On my Note 2 I'm pulling 20 Mbps in Bay Ridge. In Midtown I get around what you're getting on Sprint LTE (which is good considering it's right by Time Square, which is a super congested area). I don't really have to try and not hit my 100 minutes, and as it was mentioned above, I add an extra $10 a month which rolls over if it isn't used.

Sent from my SGH-I337
[Nexus 4 General] nycebo:
Exactly. And, if Tmobile doesn't work well for you in Westchester, it's easy enough to switch to GoPhone or AIO. I will never be locked down under Big Red or 2 year contracts again.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Being that I'm in college, I was on Sprint until 2 years ago. Then I got off my family plan and grabbed an international S3 and started paying for Straight Talk AT&T. It was about 50 a month after taxes and I'd get 4-5 Mbps (HSPA+ only), which was fine. Then there was the whole throttle for tiny amounts of usage debacle and I left them, pissed off. Now I'm using an AWS-modded AT&T Galaxy S4 on the $30 T-Mobile plan. I can deal with the 100 minutes just fine. My only complaint is building penetration, but with Wifi calling (which also works with texting and is smart and turns off your cell radio automatically) that's not an issue.

AIO is fine but they throttle your LTE to 8 Mbps and HSPA+ to 4 Mbps. They're also expensive. Straight Talk has LTE now with their AT&T SIMs. My friend is using them and gets 16 Mbps down. But I don't trust them enough to go back to them.

Sent from my SGH-I337
[Nexus 4 General] br0nx finest:
See that's exactly what I had hoped for. Thanks for your detailed response. Is there anything I should be aware of with considering this? Any ways to work around that 100min? How well does apps like Vonage handle sending/receiving calls?

Right, that's what I was thinking as well. Even Straight Talk could be considered. I just don't want to be in contract & paying over $60 a month for just OK service.

Yeah I'm not looking to deal with a Straight Talk fiasco, although funny back in the early 2000s I got kicked off TMo (when the Sidekick color first came out) for using over 5K nights and weekends.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Well, after the 100 minutes, it's 10 cents a minute. If you add any money on top of the $30 for the plan, after you use 100 minutes, you start deducting from that "reserve". There's an option with Auto Refill that lets you add any amount on top of the plan cost. I have it set to $10 (100 more minutes if you do the math). So if I use 150 minutes total (50 minutes over), $5 from the $10 reserve gets used, and next billing period, I only get charged $35 instead of $40 (because there's $5 left, so it tries to keep it at $10 by only adding $5 more).

You're not going to find a better cheap plan than T-Mobile's $30 plan lol.