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[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Sprint's network is garbage for data speeds and LTE is available practically nowhere. I live in NYC and I've yet to see anyone I know with Sprint LTE. I also used to work in a Sprint store. Trust me they suck. AIO runs on AT&T's network, true. But they throttle LTE to 8 Mbps and 4G to 4 Mbps.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
+1

My coworker has Sprint. I live in Chicago and she always has issues trying to get her data to work. The other day we needed to get a Sidecar to go somewhere and her app never worked.

I didn't know about AIO's throttle.

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Did you call T-Mobile first? Just wondering. I did my activation and port over the phone with them and had no issues.
[Nexus 4 General] nicotheandroidguy:
sprints lte network is on 1900 mhz so it only works outside so it looks like I'm going to sell my sprint s4 for a nexus 4 on this awesome plan.
[Nexus 4 General] Zainiak:
signed up a couple hours ago, seems to be good. I've had my n4 for 6 months without a plan (didn't need it) but now i do. used gvoice before so i could text from my computer. now I've installed mighty text, and I'm fine. getting about 14mbps down and 3 up in my neighborhood (indoors)
[Nexus 4 General] xain713:
Wow that's good hope I get good coverage at home I have verizon still unlimited data with my galaxy nexus but get crap signal at home
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
Depends on your area as in all occasions. If AT&T has better coverage for your area then the AIO plan wins.
[Nexus 4 General] wylde31:
My primary concern with this plan is (at least it's my understanding) that when I leave my home area there is no data (or maybe it's high speed data) roaming. I travel probably 30+ days out of the year, so I am having some second thoughts about moving to this plan when my VzW contract is up.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
Post paid T-mobile plan is not too expensive.

Or you can get StraightTalk AT&T sim card on eBay, I don't think that allow roaming either, but maybe slightly better coverage.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
I switched to T-Mobile after being on ST AT&T for a year. They started throttling all their users to 256 kbps at the beginning of each month for little to no usage and no steaming. They're also being hit with a class action lawsuit for being intentionally vague about their practices.

You don't want Straight Talk/Net10
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Yep. I'm not renewing my ST ATT plan. Incredibly frustrating data experience. Issues every day. At least with T-Mobile prepaid they are upfront about what you get data wise.
[Nexus 4 General] paperWastage:
planning to test t-mobile coverage of my area and places I go to....

question:

I am going to buy a t-mobile SIM from BB mobile + $30 card and sign up without porting the number.

If I am satisfied with the service, can I just port my number over (from at&t post-paid)? Or must I pay for a new SIM and do the porting when I sign up?

also, anyone know what happens to my at&t post-paid (out of contract)? do they give me a new number, or do I have to call them and stop service at end of billing cycle?
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I was with Verizon. I got this plan on a new number. Tested it for two weeks, then easily ported the number. Just a call to T-Mobile support, did the job.

Once the number was ported, phone service stopped with Verizon and they stopped sending me the bill. Probably the same would happen with at&t. I don't know what at&t would do. Once the number is ported, you can find that by giving then a call.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] M@XLOL:
This vonage application will make this plan work for me. I don't believe it consumes much data
[Nexus 4 General] xain713:
Just sold out of the 8gb nexus four on Google play ugh hope I can get the 16gb payday can't get here soon enough
[Nexus 4 General] FeintDoxx:
The 16gb will do much better. Since our memory is all shared we only get 12.3gbs of usable data for our music, apps, pictures, etc since the rest is system partitioned. So it'd be far less on the 8gb.
[Nexus 4 General] Nate14:
True. I have just over 5 gigs of storage on my stock, non-setup N4. I'm going to have to become a cloud person for sure.
[Nexus 4 General] air-:
I'm running out of minutes and need to get my billing cycle reset early. I've read numerous reports that this is possible (which makes perfect sense given the nature of a prepaid plan), but every rep has said no. Do I just need to get lucky in phone roulette? I still have another sim, so worst case scenario, I'd be ok activating another one.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Just add credit. After the initial 100 minutes, it's 10 cents a minute. So if you add 10 bucks, that's another 100 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
That's what I do. I always leave an extra $10 bucks on my account for a backup 100 minutes and use the magic jack app for wifi calling when possible. If I don't use the extra $10,it just floats to the next refill cycle
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
There's actually an option under auto refill that let's you add an amount above the standard 30. If you don't use any or all of the extra that you asked for, it'll only add the difference. So if you want $40 each month and at the end you have $5 worth of minutes left, it'll charge you $35 next time.
[Nexus 4 General] scariola:
30 dollar plan works great for unlimited calling with talkatone or groove ip, as long as you have a google voice number, your calls cost 1.2Mb of data per minute.

30 dollars for basically unlimited is the best deal I've found.

Also, if you have a tmobile sim, prepaid or not. Walmart told me I need the starter kit. I called tmobile 611 and asked them. They changed me from postpaid to prepaid over the phone, without buying a new sim.

They also said I could switch back to the 30 dollar walmart plan anytime I wanted. Was on unlimited LTE for 70 dollars and just dropped back down to the 30 dollar plan by calling 611 again.

For those who have some mis information from the walmart people trying to sell you stuff you might not need.
[Nexus 4 General] XxLostSoulxX:
Call 611 and tell them that you have reached close or over web data and don't want to be throttled. Because our plan is a premium or promotional account.
[Nexus 4 General] Ztones:
The same thing happened to me last month and customer service had no problem restarting my month early.
[Nexus 4 General] ronakg:
I'm getting the 16gb Nexus 4 in couple of days thanks to new discount. Can I get a replacement sim from T-mobile (I have the $30 plan right now) for free or do I need to pay $10 and get a new sim? When I bought my regular sim, it was just a $1.

Does anyone have recent experience about this?
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
I was told by the manager at a T-Mobile store that you can just go to the store and they'll give you a micro SIM for free and trade you for your old SIM. What you can also do is cut down your SIM into a micro SIM, which is what I just did tonight. All you need is a template that you can print out so you know where to cut.
[Nexus 4 General] M@XLOL:
I wonder if I can just buy a sim car to t-mobile instead of best buy or Walmart. I'll call the mall tomorrow I guess.
[Nexus 4 General] FeintDoxx:
I'm on post paid, would they do this for me If I called? Google services used up 4gbs of my data and my billing cycle started the 27th.. BTW would this inquire any type of billing charges?
[Nexus 4 General] Ztones:
He said he doesn't want to be throttled. When you add extra $, it only buys you extra minutes. Data is still throttled after 5GB. I asked and there is no way to add extra data. I just experienced this first hand last month. Someone in another forum suggested signing up for hotspot service for a month and then cancelling it. Apparently that adds extra data to your account. Other than that, the only thing to do is call cust serv and ask them to start the next month early and that you don't mind loosing some days that was already paid for. T-mobile has only to gain here, since you paid for a month and used less than a month.
[Nexus 4 General] nilisco:
good lord, this thread is three hundred pages of the same four questions. If only the first post was actually useful.

ok dis text box is 4 me 2 tlk 2 u
[Nexus 4 General] Ztones:
Works great on good HSPA+ speeds, and even better on LTE, if you have that enabled.
[Nexus 4 General] jlin5647:
Just wondering, has anybody ever tried buying from this guy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T-Mobile-50...686?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25825736c6

is this real

that $76 for $100 is incredibly enticing.
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
Seems pretty sketchy since the seller has no feedback and their username is just random numbers.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
If you're going to order on e Bay do it from somebody that has verifiable feedback. That one you posted is obviously too shady.
[Nexus 4 General] jlin5647:
Hm. Anybody have any suggestions for refill then? Most of the previous posts about refills don't have working links/vendor not available.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
This is the one I used:
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Even though they can't sell discounted plans anymore I still use Callingmart for my refills. Cheaper than T-Mo as they don't have an Illinois brick & mortar and therefore aren't required to collect state, county and Chicago tax. Of course I ALWAYS file a use tax form as should all of us doing online purchases (for our NSA friends following the convo from their bunkers). :)
[Nexus 4 General] M@XLOL:
Should be getting my nexus in the next few days if I just purchase a sim card from the local t-mobile store can I purchase air time from any option available (eBay or calling mart) and activate? Thread is daunting and I only have experience with Verizon and sprint forgive my ignorance.

Edit

Looks like I need an activation code. I suppose I'll buy a kit. I don't understand why this code is necessary.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
T-Mobile store do not sell the $30 5G plan. You need an activation code to setup a prepaid plan. You can either get the activation kit from Walmart or buy from T-Mobile online store: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/...ro-SIM-Card-Activation-Kit-No-Annual-Contract
[Nexus 4 General] Riverdales27:
I've used callingmart twice no taxes. But I bought some at rite aide and there were no taxes on there either. I don't think any stores in California charges tax on calling cards.
[Nexus 4 General] omegatyrant:
You can also get the Sim card kit from best buy or target if you have a micro Sim cutter. That's what I did.
[Nexus 4 General] gqukyo:
I'm curious, those of you who are buying these cards with no discount, is it because you guys don't want to autopay via a credit card or checking acct? Maybe that's a dumb question but I just don't get why people buy these cards that are not discounted :cyclops: and from what I understand, both NY and CA do not charge tax for buying any gift/calling/prepaid cards. I'm not 100% sure about other states though I'm pretty sure most if not all do not charge for gift and calling cards, not sure about prepaid carrier cards. Yes I understand that not everyone has credit cards or checking accounts but if you're buying online, I assume you're paying with a credit card or some type of electronic payment and if you can do that, you can use Tmo's autopay... :p Not trying to judge or dis anyone, I'm just curious is all. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] paulsaz:
Arizona retail stores do charge sales tax on prepaid cards, thats why I use callingmart. I'm assuming some other states do as well.
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
Tmo's autopay charges tax in NY, not to mention I've had it not work and my service suspended.
[Nexus 4 General] adrian089:
Went to the T-mobile store today and asked for a sim card and that I wanted a prepaid plan and told them I wasn't ready to activate because I hadn't received my phone yet and wanted to wait until I did. Got home and realized I need an activation code that did not come with the card. Ugh.
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
In Chicago-Cook County-Illinois EVERYTHING is taxed. That's why I use Callingmart.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
I would like to know does LTE work over the prepaid simcard as well or:

-it has to be a postpaid simcard?

-or it has to be a newer prepaid card? Since my prepaid simcard is about 2 years old.

-my area simply isn't covered yet (Pompano Beach), anyone from around here got LTE to work?

In the About phone -> Status window it shows "Mobile network type: LTE:13", using the right modem,fast.t-mobile.com APN, build.prop tweaks, but I can't get any data connection.

EDIT: Nevermind, I switched from AOKP beta to CM10.1.3RC2 and LTE works. Sweeeet.
[Nexus 4 General] gqukyo:
For Arizona, does T-mobile charge tax then? Cuz it looks like they're (the gov't) double dipping if the retail stores charge then tmo charges which I assume they are if you're buying from callingmart and not just paying through T-mo's site unless Tmo doesn't accept whatever form of payment you use at callingmart. If that's the case then that makes sense to me.

I did notice that I've never paid tax for the Tmo prepaid service. I guess I just assumed since it's a prepaid service, they won't charge tax. I've tried Lycamobile (for the unlimited international dialing) and wasn't charge tax then either. For my post paid carrier accts though, I was always charged tax so I find that interesting and is why I asked. Never tried prepaid service in NY when I was there so can't comment on the autopay. Was always on postpaid while there.
[Nexus 4 General] hrsetrdr:
I recieved my t-mobile SIM yesterday, and activated it, got a phone # assigned. The customer service rep was pleasant, but informed me that the $30 plan for 100 mins/5GB data was only available at Walmart...??? I didn't attempt to argue, just thanked her and ended the call.

I created an account on t-mobile's web site, have my SIM card & activated phone number, but there is no way (so far) that I've been able to 'touch' the $30 plan, there is just no to put it in my "shopping cart".

I don't get it, do I have to make a specific facial gesture while navigating that page, in order to 'enable' a purchase?
[Nexus 4 General] testrider:
Not sure why it's so hard. You would think that they don't want our money :)

I'm on this plan since Oct 2012. I just looked and it's still listed here on their

web site:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
This plan has always been a promotional plan strictly for those who purchased a new sim card at either Wal-Mart or on T-Mo's website. T-Mo's site no longer clarifies that since the change to the uncarrier model, but I do not believe you will see this plan listed at any retail store other than Wal-Mart. T-Mo would have various motivations for this - to target certain groups of folk and possibly to improve relations with Wal-Mart. Regardless, it isn't complicated. There have been various reports of people having success getting this plan even tho they technically do not qualify, but if you want to be safe play by the rules, buy your sim @ either Wal-Mart or online.
[Nexus 4 General] beanboy89:
I work at Wal-Mart and we've pulled all the SIM kits from the shelves. They appeared on our recall list yesterday. Not sure why, but we had to send them all back.
[Nexus 4 General] hrsetrdr:
Thanks for the reply, the picture is becoming a bit more clear. Perhaps going to a Walmart to sign up for the 100 minutes talk | Unlimited text |5 GB plan would work? I have a SIM I bought from t-mobile from thier website, but just have no way to do this transaction there. Their Live Chat seems to be unavailable, last couple of days.
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
I got a SIM from their website and I was able to activate it on their website on the $30 plan a few days ago. When you go to activate your SIM it asks which prepaid plan you want and then you select the $30 one with 5 gb & 100 min.
[Nexus 4 General] adrian089:
I had no problem getting them to activate the 30 prepaid plan at t mobile today.
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
Re-reading your previous post, your issue now may be that you already have a T-MO number. The plan is for new activations only - if your account/sim is already active but you do not have the plan, your account is ineligible, that is why you wouldn't be able to switch to the plan online. You would technically have to buy a new sim, open a new account (or the equivalent), and then port your existing T-Mo number. Non-technically you just need to find a customer service rep willing to switch you to the plan. Basically, just read through the past 20+ pages of the thread, and you will find pertinent discussion.

If you purchased the sim online (directly from T-Mo), then you should have been able to activate the plan initially, if I am not mistaken. It would be a T-Mo error that you were told you were not eligible. Unfortunately the prepaid customer service reps mostly read from scripts and don't always understand non-routine issues, so I'm not sure how the phone call would go. Luckily you may never need their customer service reps once you are up and running.
[Nexus 4 General] hrsetrdr:
Walmart Family Mobile

I went to the local Walmart to see what they have, the SIM kits were indeed gone, and the labels removed from the shelf. I think that Walmart is focusing on it's Walmart Family Mobile offering, which does use TMO networks, in a MVNO-like fashion, but is not, in a strict sense.

As for my not being able to transact this deal on t-mobile's website- I'm still searching for answers. At one point I thought that it might be a browser issue, since I'm a Linux user and use Iceweasel, the Debian-Linux branded version of Firefox. But, I've visited the TMO site in IE9, Firefox, Chrome and Safari, all with the same result.
[Nexus 4 General] urinsane:
I activated the $30 5gb plan online today with no issues. When starting a new account it was available as a prepaid option along with all of the other plans.

I actually just came back to this plan after almost a year on Solavei. I actually had a great experience with Solavei, but haven't been using very many minutes lately and decided to save the $25. I did forget about no conditional call forwarding to use Google Voice Voicemail, but am happy to see that at least T-Mobile's Visual Voicemail is working with prepaid now.

I also just tried buying a $15 refill for $13 from ebay. I know T-Mobile wasn't letting callingmart.com and other retailers sell for less than face value so I'm not sure how legit the seller is, but I figured for $13 it was worth a trial.

Edit: to clarify, I used a SIM activation kit that I purchased last year through t-mobile.com during one of their "free activation kit" sales. It was a full sized SIM and my Nexus 4 needed the micro, so I attempted to chop it down to size with scissors (I had done this successfully with the Solavei SIM). Unfortunately I wasn't very accurate and botched it, and had to go into the T-Mobile store. The rep couldn't have been nicer, and got me in and out with a new micro-SIM in about 5 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] Karnier:
I've been using a Google voice number since I need more than 100 minutes, so I've been using groove ip . However, I've been getting two phone calls, one from groove ip and one through the native caller. How can I fix this? Or do I have to pay 20 and port my phone number?
[Nexus 4 General] dascjb:
In Google voice settings uncheck forwarding calls to your phone. Only forward to Google chat. This way native phone will not ring, only groove will. FYI I do the same thing and found gv phone app has better quality than groove
[Nexus 4 General] Karnier:
Is there another way? Sometimes I don't have data or wifi available and I'd like to still get phone calls
[Nexus 4 General] theorlyowl:
I wish i could get a decent plan over here in Germany. Average plans here are like 500MB, 3000 SMS/month, 100 minutes call time... for 20 Euro, about 28 USD :S. And 1GB extra data volume cost an extra of 10 Euro (12-14 USD) !!! This is insane!

German providers should take an example in austrian providers!
[Nexus 4 General] dascjb:
You can have both ring and just answer the want you want to use. If you decline the native call you can still answer with wifi phone, or at least I can with gv phone
[Nexus 4 General] Karnier:
That's what I'm doing right now with two phone calls, but whenever I decilne the native caller and answer on the groove IP I never hear the other person. What is the GV phone app? Or is that just the regular google voice
[Nexus 4 General] Kingyooper:
I went to my local wally world and bought $30 unlimited/unlimited/100m kit with micro sim kit last week in anticapation of my new Nexus 4 arriving. Got the phone thursday(9-5-13). The activation on the t-mobile site couldn't have gone better. I did not port a number. I put in the sim, charged the phone and activated. Everything works and didn't need enter APNs,change settings or talk to anyone. Took 30 minutes tops.

I down loaded paid grooveip which I had bought for a tablet. Needed some echo tweaks. The Vonage ap works great as is and a bit better(but is outgoing only).You can also pick the number shown on caller ID with vonnage. The groove IP has the huge advantage that you can use it through the native dialer and get asked if you want to use Grooveip or cell network before it dials however if you have a weak signal and wifi off(or no wifi) that won't work and of course you won't get calls through Grooveip. Make sure to check your setting on both aps and phone as you can end up dialing out on the native talk and paying minutes. Both aps have more delay but are very usable if you have solid 3g or better..

The plan is just about perfect for me and speeds are much better than my Straight Talk/verizon. Only negative is T-mobiles coverage. Much weaker signal even in town at my house. If it passes some tests in fringe areas, I will keep the $30 plan as the much greater speeds are worth the weak signal in town . I will being trying a staright talk AT&T sim in the nexus 4 but will only use that if T-mobile doesn't cut the mustard in my "can you here me now" tests.

Really want to get free of Verizon and its' MVNOs even though there talk coverage is pretty darn good and improving. Sick of being imprisoned on the crappy phones and neglected 3g only that is available with verizon mvnos.
[Nexus 4 General] dascjb:
It is from mo+ called Phone for goggle voice and gtalk free on playstore
[Nexus 4 General] Postal Psycho:
Are you able to receive calls and texts with this? I have been using Groove IP for 14 months now I can't believe I haven't heard of this app before. I would love to try this.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
Can you comment on the quality of the call. Specifically does your mic pick up everything and annoy the other caller. I live in NYC and don't want to annoy people with noises.
[Nexus 4 General] dascjb:
I have only been testing it out for about a week. I have tried groove, vonage, spare phone, and phone for gv. For me, phone for gv, is the clear winner for call quality. The other apps sound muffled and have some echo while phone for gv was very clear with no echo. It was also clear over 3G. I tried out the messaging and it appears to work and the UI is better than the voice app IMO. The things I dont like about the app are it requires google username/password (same as spare phone), there is no way to change the ring tone, ringer volume is low.

They appear to actively update the application so I suspect these issues will be addressed in future updates.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
Thanks man I'll give it a try
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I tried mo+ earlier, but it was not up to par with Skype's call quality. But I tried again today. It seems much better. I will try it again and see how it goes.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Volume doesn't work on my HTC One. Mo+
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
Just a heads up. This week Target has Tmobile airfill cards 10% off
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
No tax in Cali!:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] fleury14:
Probably the first and last time we'll ever see that sentence written.