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[Nexus 4 General] br0nx finest:
That sounds great, I wish I could "potentially" trim other bills in this same manner.

Is there any way to add n&w or mobile to any mobile? Or 100 voice mins are 100 voice mins period? I used 600 total mob-to-mob mins, and only 10 landline minutes this month via Sprint but I use my phone for EVERYTHING as I don't have a landline. But with a vo-ip app, I could possibly cut back a bit. I just really need to try it, I'm going to road test it for a week using my current phone with a voip app.
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
100 minutes are 100 minutes, period. You'll be charged 10 cents a minute after that so if you use 600 a month then it's gonna cost you a lot extra and it won't be worth it unless you use a VoIP app. I found CSipSimple works well though so I hardly use any of my actual T-Mobile minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] AtrixShan:
Try the Vonage App or GrooveIP. You need a reliable low ping connection for it to work well. My experience is VOIP over cellular network is too flaky if you need a lot of minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Don't forget to get all your regular pals onto Voxer push-to-talk (Android and iPhone apps) and forget even bothering to make calls. It sends mp3 voicemails back and forth, and you keep a record of all the messages on your phone for reference later (when did I promise completing that project? How long was that lunch?). I hate dialing anyone now, and I sip minutes when I do. Skype and Vonage for when I need to call a non-Voxer,
[Nexus 4 General] detdett:
Fongo works quite well for me.
[Nexus 4 General] overtheair:
I wish I could say the same. I've been using Groove IP (paid version) for several months, and though calls almost always sound very good on my end, on the other end they often sound choppy, with bits of the audio cutting out.. That's the case whether calling over wifi or hspa, T-Mobile's hspa in my area averages 13 mbps down and 1.5 mbps up. I've played around some with the Groove settings,but haven't found any tweaks that are better than the default values.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
It's really not that expensive to get another round of 100 minutes guys. If you want 300 minutes total (5 hours of calls), your bill will be around $50 for the month total. That's really not bad at all. I get that the idea to save money and that, "if you wanted to more you would just go to _________", but really, it's not that much more expensive if you HAPPEN to go over an hour and 40 minutes worth of calls in a month.
[Nexus 4 General] br0nx finest:
When you put it that way -- it's still 50% cheaper than I'm paying at the moment.

-- I'm Craigslist hunting for a deal and paying another month to Sprint at the moment, now my ETF is down to $220 and I'm going to post my SGS3 on CL for the same amt.
[Nexus 4 General] urinsane:
Another tip that has worked well for me so far: check eBay for people selling actual physical refill cards.

I just took a bit of a risk (figured eBay would cover me at least in part if anything went wrong) and won an auction for $230 of cards for $175.

Now, unfortunately I don't think I can load all of the cards on there at once (although I think I saw mention that when your account rolls over to the next month they extend the 90 day expiration? Might call into T-Mobile to verify) but the first 2 loaded on with no issue. Seller included the card activation receipts as well, showing that they weren't just pulled off a shelf.

Obviously it will be hard to find another deal like that, but I see $50 cards going for around $45 fairly often.

I've also bought from sellers that take your phone number and refill your account directly. No issues there so far, but having the actual card makes me feel better.

edit: just did a chat with T-Mobile customer service. The agent I talked to confirmed that if I was to add all the funds at once, I would lose any remaining after 90 days. Obviously this is just one agent, and your mileage may vary, but I guess I'll just save the cards and add as needed for now. I did ask that he pass on to his superiors that this was a rather inconvenient feature for their customers, and he thanked me for my feedback. I know they don't really care about prepaid, but figured I'd mention it anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] Warbuff:
Might be also related to Nexus 4's sensitive mic issues. I got around this by plugging in a headset with mic
[Nexus 4 General] duclet:
Thats odd. I know I saw my expiration date for my funds move up another 30 days when the account auto takes the money from the refill.
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
Same for me. I typically add in $50 or $100 increments.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
The rep doesn't know what they're talking about. If I add $10 on top of my $30 plan, the $10 stays there until I use it (provided I used the auto-pay menu option that lets me add money on top of plan cost). If I use any of the $10, the difference is added next billing cycle in order to maintain the $10, which I use for a extra minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] ac009:
if we flashed enabled LTE on our nexus 4, will we be able to get LTE through this plan??

TIA
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Quoted for truth! I've been doing same thing since I started a year ago. It definitely carries over.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Yes. Unlike other a-hole carriers, T-Mobile doesn't limit the connection type you can use.

Sent from my SGH-I337
[Nexus 4 General] detdett:
Huh? Which provider doesn't let you use lte?
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
AT&T up until recently didn't on their prepaid plans.
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
Verizon still doesn't let their prepaid customers use LTE. Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
And the funny thing is most Verizon devices activate via the LTE SIM, and since Verizon doesn't have LTE on their prepaid plans, you have to either:

1) Take an LTE device and find a way to force it to activate via ESN (Galaxy Nexus and a few can), and then flash a cheap prepaid phone ESN onto it.

2) Take a Sprint phone and flash it with a Verizon cheap prepaid phone ESN.

I HATE CDMA with a passion. It's so closed and restricted and a PITA to develop for (ROMs, etc). I love GSM and being able to switch to whatever device I want, whether or not my carrier approves of it.
[Nexus 4 General] Fire Ball:
I hate CDMA too! I came from a Sprint S3 and it's so nice not to have to deal with that now. With my Nexus 4 I can just pop in a SIM card and my phone will work! So much easier. Plus T-Mobile just so happens to be so much better than Sprint in my area. :D
[Nexus 4 General] ap1618:
Can you receive incoming calls through Vonage app too?
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
No. Just outgoing.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] detdett:
Use fongo If you want both incoming and outgoing
[Nexus 4 General] naan-consensual:
is tmo killing our prepaid plans? say it ain't so...

http://phandroid.com/2013/09/30/t-mobile-kills-off-classic-plans-at-3rd-party-retailers/

"T-Mobile is killing off Classic plans at Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and more starting Nov 1st"
[Nexus 4 General] Telemachus13:
Classic Plans are the old contract postpaid plans, they are in no way the same as prepaid plans.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
I don't think the $30 plan is a "Classic Plan".
[Nexus 4 General] TreatnHerRight:
I really hope not! Switched to T-Mobile just for this plan.

Sent from my Nexus 4 Running Vanir ROM by MBQ
[Nexus 4 General] mrlad:
Currently on the T-Mobile $30/month plan w/my Nexus 4. Rumors are the Nexus 5 uses a nano sim. If this is true and I did get a Nexus 5, could I switch my existing account over to the new nano SIM or would this require a new pre-paid account? Don't really care about the # as I use Google Voice, but I do have some money in the account I don't want to orphan.
[Nexus 4 General] Kernel=Panic:
T-Mobile will ship as many Sims as you want for $.98. No LTE I'm my area yet but still getting 20 Mbps. I'm completely satisied with this plan.

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I went to the T-Mobile store and they gave me a new micro Sim and ported my number and plan to it no charge. The guy was actually pleasant about doing it too.

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Nexus 4 CM10.1 unlocked Tmobile $30 plan. No LTE in STL yet. In settings >mobile networks>network settings what should be my preferred mode? LTE/GSM/WCDMA seems to do as well as any of them.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
I saw LTE a few weeks ago near Busch Stadium.
[Nexus 4 General] sweetrugger:
Google Voice help

I'm currently on this plan. I ported my old number as my actual number, but I'm not sure how happy I am about not have Google Voice voicemail. So, can you all answer a few questions I have? I've seen some of the answers here and there in this thread, but not everything.

Let's say I port my number to Google Voice, and my TMO number is some random number.

1. I know I can forward texts from my GV number to my TMO phone. I can reply from the messages app to this text (from a random number) and the recipient will see that it is coming from my GV number.

Question - Is there a way to forward a text to my GV number to my TMO number and have the senders number display?

Question - Is there a way to send a text through the messages app to a number so that it shows it is from my GV number? I know I can send messages from the Google Voice app.

2. I know I can make/receive calls to my GV number through a variety of apps. I can also have calls to my GV number forwarded to my TMO phone.

Question - Can I make calls from my phone using my GV number? Is this what happens if I set Google Voice to ask each time I make a call? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this will use my TMO minutes and place the call over the phone network (versus WIFI or data)?
[Nexus 4 General] lensgrabber:
What I would be concerned about is the new $40 walmart family mobile plan. I bet in the next six months the existing $30 plan will go away for new subscribers and the $40 unlimited talk/text/web will be the only one offered. I could be wrong (hope I'm wrong) but the family mobile plans are what walmart is pushing these days when you visit the stores.
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Not sure what isn't working for you, need to be more specific. GV works just fine for me.
[Nexus 4 General] sweetrugger:
I'm just looking for answers/how to's for my questions. Based on the discussion in the thread, GV works in different ways for different people, but I haven't seen these things specifically discussed (or at least haven't found it in the thread).
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
It has definitely been discussed on this thread - multiple times. Scroll back.
[Nexus 4 General] Kernel=Panic:
GV Works on TMobile

I got a GV message and listned to it on my phone in the google voice app today. It didn't transcribe, but that is hit or miss. I also got a text forwarded. So I have no issues with conditional call forwarding on TMobile. I think Sprint CDMA is the carrier that doesnt support that, it works on TMobile. I think a lot of people have configuration issues with this since there are so many variables.

On the bright side now you can get a $45 ATT LTE plan that is unlimited from Straight Talk if you dont like TMobile. Unlocked BYOD is the way to go! :good::good:

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I'm trying to use VoIP and sometimes I get no data connection at all. I'm having trouble switching networks with signal strenght and I'm just trying to figure out the best settings. In CM10.1 quick settings there is a mobile data on/off 2g/3g/2g-3g and an LTE button. If I select LTE the 3g turns to 2g automatically even when H+ and 3G are available, and it resets my selection of prefered networks in my settings, so I cant figure out how to set it up. I may pop over to the Nexus 4 or CM10.1 forums and post it there.

Thanks

Nexus 4 unlocked CM10.1 TMo $30 PPaid.
[Nexus 4 General] zakkyzombie:
How do you disable the 'child lock' on the browser. I can't gander upon some 4chan boards or other 'adult' websites.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
You will have to log onto your my T-Mobile site with your number and disable web guard from young adult to none. This is on by default for new accounts.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
It requires your SSN I think. You can also go into a T-Mobile store and most in store reps don't care enough to ask (they'll just remove it as long as you're an adult).
[Nexus 4 General] adrman:
$30 for $28.99 refills are back in stock at refillmobi.com.
[Nexus 4 General] hatyrei:
I purchased a $30 micro sim with that 4G plan but when I activate it in my nexus 4....The $30 plan isn't available and only $50 is available. :(
[Nexus 4 General] SWOLEGASM:
Yeah St Louis has had LTE live since labor day. Perhaps your APN needs changing. They have actually rather quickly refarmed existing AWS hspa+ over to LTE/1900 between labor day and now as well, examples being the entirety of Chesterfield valley including both outlet malls.

St Louis city, cwe, Brentwood, Clayton, town and country, most of Chesterfield (excluding near Baxter and clarkson) all have LTE now. I have noticed that prepaid LTE is slower than post paid though, which seems concurrent with reports that T-Mobile prioritizes post paid users.

Friend got 22mbps down in ballwin/town and country area on his note 2 on LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] testrider:
The $30 plan is still on their web site:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans

This plan is only available for devices purchased from

Wal-Mart or devices activated on T-Mobile.com

Did you try to activate on t-mobile.com?

Also, what do you mean by "$30 micro sim"?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Recall that it can also be activated by phone...the automated prompts will inquire about number transfers and plan selections, with the $30 Prepay options (ours versus the 1500 minute/30MB data).
[Nexus 4 General] Danzoman:
*delete please* I keep thinking quick reply is a search bar...
[Nexus 4 General] trsix:
?

Guessing no but. Do u get GPS for maps etc with the 30. Plan?
[Nexus 4 General] detdett:
Gps had to do with the device antenna. What do you mean?
[Nexus 4 General] moonpie28:
Yes
[Nexus 4 General] br0nx finest:
If you have data, then you also have GPS.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
People in here have had success with calling up the T-Mobile people and asking for a discount on the SIM kit after buying it, but I wonder if that's how it works for the regular plans as well. I'm already with T-Mobile, but my mom/sister aren't and I was wondering whether I'd have to pay those 20 dollars to get two SIM cards.
[Nexus 4 General] harveydent:
If you have a TMo store (not the 3rd-party mall kiosks) near you, they'll often give it to you for free, especially if you're switching.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I'm going to use this thread to ask my question, because it's pretty relevant.

I'm moving from Finland to San Francisco and I've been eyeing this service plan to use with my Nexus 4.

Am I right that I'll just have to order the SIM card activation kit and use T-Mobile's website to activate my phone with them to be able to get this service plan?

By the way, here in Finland I pay 15 EUR for 100 minutes, 100 texts and unlimited 21 MB/s 3G (including Dual Carrier). I wish I could get something similar, but this $30 plan is close enough.
[Nexus 4 General] TreatnHerRight:
Yes Order the Sim Kit, there's information on it that you just enter on the t-mobile website such as IMEI, and activation code(come with kit). And than if you're porting a number there will be an option for that too. And after that, you will be on the T-Mobile network.

Sent from my Nexus 4 Running Vanir ROM by MBQ
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Dude, this plan includes 42 Mb/s 3G (Dual-Carrier, which the Nexus 4 supports), also includes LTE (which the Nexus 4 supports), 100 minutes, UNLIMITED texts, and 5GB data (which is only slowed down afterwards, but still unlimited). This is better than your current plan.

Also, your plan is about $20-21. You're only paying a little bit more here and you're getting a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] doitda:
I am currently on the $69 unlimited T-Mobile prepaid plan and want to move to the $30 plan and keep my telephone #.

Any tips on how this is achievable?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Buy new activation kit. Activate new plan and port number from old plan.
[Nexus 4 General] doitda:
Thanks, I plan on visiting a store during lunch to see if I can get the sim card for free vs. paying the $10 kit fee.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Yeah, it's a pretty good plan. Luckily I found it before ordering a Straight Talk plan. Only thing is that since my current one's really unlimited, I use it to tether quite a lot. Oh well, I'll have Wi-Fi in most places anyway!

Do you know how the 100 minutes work? Can I go over and be charged more, or do I have to buy packages of X minutes?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Good luck..store policies vary. I needed a microSIM for my wife's phone swap, and they wanted $20 for it, despite what was then a 10 year customer on a $130/month plan. Others report here that some stores are 'cool' that way..it's hit and miss.

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You may benefit by reading this thread..I know, I know..it's a doozy. Keep some extra dough in your account and when you go over 100 mins, extra minutes are 10 cents a pop.
[Nexus 4 General] AtrixShan:
I think it's 10 cents per minute once you go over. Make sure you have some money in the account if you plan to go over. VOIP apps works if you have a good connection. There are a few good apps ppl recommend of you search the thread. I used Skype and Vonage as my backup to make out going calls.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Thanks for the help guys! Can't wait to move to SF.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
We're finally experiencing summer for a few weeks, October is always our best month. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Stay away from Straight Talk. I was with them for a year (on an AT&T SIM). They kept throttling me to 256 kbps month after month (even after starting a new cycle). I left them for the T-Mobile $30 plan in May. ST recently admitted that the soft caps are set to 2.5GB. Plus no LTE on the T-Mobile SIM. Also no Wifi Calling (calls, text, and MMS go through Wifi, and it's free if you travel abroad).
[Nexus 4 General] Shabidoo:
I thought you could only port a number from another carrier since this plan was meant to attract new customers. What I did was convert my old T-mobile number to a google voice number for $20. Now it doesn't matter what my "real" cell number is. I just give people my GV number and it will forward to any number I specify. I've gotten use to the text workarounds. If I want a text to come from my GV number I either have to use one of the GV code numbers or use the GV texting app. If I want to send images, I just use gmail. It's worth it to me to not have to worry about porting ever again.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Negative. I ported 3 different TMO numbers to this plan with no issues, both contract (off contract) and a pre-paid. Since it's automated, no one objects. ;) The ONLY requirement for this plan is a NEW ACTIVATION.
[Nexus 4 General] kenhicg:
Does anyone have experience teathering an ipad to the n4 on this plan? Has anyone recieved the hotspot warning from tmobile?

life is better with r00t
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
500MB tethering comes standard, afterwards one may get the warning page. There are various workarounds, from restarting the connection, to browser user agent switching, etc. If you plan a LOT of tethering, it's easiest to simply pay the fee.

edit: the $15 fee affords your entire 5GB allotment, renews along with your plan.
[Nexus 4 General] Product F(RED):
Did you guys see uncarrier phase 3? Unlimited calls and texting with 20c/minute calls in 100 different countries (listed here). It's 128 kbps, but still usable for basic use. Only for Simple Choice plans, but cool:

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/10/t-mo...lobal/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
[Nexus 4 General] kenhicg:
500 a month isn't bad. I will try a different browser with an android user agent if I want more.
[Nexus 4 General] hoangtung619:
lte speed

how fast is tmo lte speed in $30 prepaid plan guys? i live in san jose, i tried this plan before on my s3 but it isnt fast at all, i want a recommendation from xda users, im using gOsmart with $30/month unlimited everything also 4g lte, but the data really slow. Thinking about go back to this TMO $30 plan or switch to Net10 or Straightalk, any suggestion guys? I'm using TMO Note3
[Nexus 4 General] AtrixShan:
Around San Jose the DL speed is ~20mbps and upload ~4mbps. Sometimes faster.
[Nexus 4 General] hoangtung619:
i think i should give it a try
[Nexus 4 General] TreatnHerRight:
10 down 5 up. Virginia, Hopewell.

Sent from my Nexus 4 Running Vanir ROM by MBQ
[Nexus 4 General] ryukiri:
Hello, I'm currently locked into a 2 yr att contract that ends in March... Can I get this tmo prepaid plan before my contract is over? I'm planning on using it with the Nexus 5 when I get it..
[Nexus 4 General] SWOLEGASM:
Yeah but you can't use your at&t number. If you port it you will cancel the contact
[Nexus 4 General] ryukiri:
Ohh OK, one more thing... How do I refill every month? Do I need to get a new sim card? And do I need to port my number everytime? Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] SWOLEGASM:
You can either sign up for autopay on T-Mobile website or you can buy wireless prepaid cards on websites and input the code into the T-Mobile website.
[Nexus 4 General] Nicraz:
Why wouldn't he be able to? If anything, he should wait until the contract is over, then port to T-Mobile and keep his number. Note that the ATT account needs to be active in order for the port to be successful.

Sent from my HTC One now Free
[Nexus 4 General] ryukiri:
Sorry but what do u mean by active? Like I have to port it before my contract ends? Like on the last day or something?
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Yes you have to port it before your contract ends. When you port it you are also terminating your contract and subject to whatever ETF might apply.
[Nexus 4 General] arlenwoot:
You can port your number whenever you want as long as you have an active account with ATT. The difference is if you're still under contract with ATT they will charge you an ETF because transferring the number away from them automatically cancels the line.

I'd say wait until your contract with ATT is over then transfer the number the day after, or transfer whenever you want if you dont mind paying the ETF.
[Nexus 4 General] ryukiri:
I can choose to not port and use a new number.. Is that correct?
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Sure.
[Nexus 4 General] SWOLEGASM:
He can I was under the impression he didn't want to cancel his at&t contact.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
misinformation.
[Nexus 4 General] Telemachus13:
You can wait to port until after your contract ends, just don't call AT&T to cancel service before the port is complete.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus