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[Nexus 4 General] joelshooty:
I would love a guide... I've tried to set-up something similar in the past using pbxes.org but I could never get it to work. I have an always-on server PC running anyways, so running PIAF wouldn't be a problem I don't think. My internet is only 15/1 but I could upgrade to 15/2 relatively cheap if the performance increase would be significant.
[Nexus 4 General] powerdoesntrun:
My first speed test gave me 7.39Mbps down, 0.33 Mbps up, 153 ms ping. I'm indoors, though, and I seem to be switching between HSPA and 3G.
[Nexus 4 General] scarhill:
I use Talkatone (free version). I have it configured to only connect on wifi, but if I'm on both wifi and the cell network, both Talkatone and the native phone app ring on incoming calls. Evidently, the premium version has an option to blacklist wifi networks, which you could use to avoid the double ringing.
[Nexus 4 General] joelshooty:
T-Mobile store = NO (in my experience they won't sell you the SIM activation kit... or they will sell it but for $20~$30).

Walmart = NO (the Walmart I went to did not sell the SIM activation kit... you could order it from Walmart.com I think).

Order the micro-SIM activation kit from T-Mobile's website for $1. It will take a few business days to get it. From there just follow the instructions. The $30 plan will be an option.
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
15/1 should be sufficient. Pbxes.com will work over HSPA+ with the Speex codec, but g729 is significantly better. IMO, the best method is rolling your own server because you have the option to use the g729 codec, and there are tons of other features.
[Nexus 4 General] alphathirteen:
You can definitely transfer your number from T-Mobile postpaid to T-Mobile prepaid. I did it and it worked seamlessly when I did it online. Some people talked about having problems when calling the CSRs or going in to a store to do it. So, I'd say avoid that hassle and do it yourself online. T-Mobile said the number transfer could take 24-48 hours, but it went through in about 2 hours for me.
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
Magic Jack

Didn't see this mentioned in this thread. But after I discovered the Vonage app thru this thread, I also came across the Magic Jack app, works on WiFi and 4G. Free and doesn't require a paid magic jack account.

Haven't tested it out yet beyond calling my other phone and leaving a voice mail (sounded ok).

It's definitely another option to consider. It auto loads on phone start and has no easy way to exit it (my only downsides for now)

play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5tYWdpY2phY2siXQ..
[Nexus 4 General] afbengochea:
I just don't like the fact that the magic jack app seems to kill my battery pretty quick and can't even exit the app if I wanted to. Seems to want to reopen on its own
[Nexus 4 General] jlk_250:
My N4 showed up today and I am going to switch from Verizon to this $30 T-Mobile plan. Have the micro sim activation kit in hand. But a few pages back I read that I need to get a $30 prepaid card from Walmart or something? I just assumed that T-Mobile would bill me like Verizon does. Do I need to make a trip to Walmart before I can activate? Also, my 2 year contract with Verizon is up on 11/25. I want to port over to T-Mobile before then and cancel with Verizon on the 25th, right? Never done this before.

BTW, there are two $30/month plans. The one this thread is about is the $30 unlimited text, 5GB data, 100 minute talk plan. It's available only from Walmart.com or T-Mobile online. Not available at at T-Mobile store if you walk in. The plan we want is hard to find on their web site but it's on there. Easiest way to find it is do a web search and people have posted links to it. It'll save you a lot of blindly poking around trying to find it on the T-Mobile site.
[Nexus 4 General] venturizhou:
When you port over online you can either use your credit/debit card to place funds on your account but you can't use a refill card until your transfer completes. You can just wait until after it transfer then create an account on the the T-Mobile website and just use the refill card then.
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans

I think you can buy the $30 prepaid cards online. I don't think you need the physical card in hand.... I haven't done this yet so I don't know for sure.
[Nexus 4 General] joelshooty:
You don't need a Walmart prepaid card. You don't need to involve Walmart at all to get the $30 plan. I think the confusion is that the $30 unlim data plan is commonly called the "Walmart Plan" because I believe it was originally only available at Walmart. But that's not true today... you can get it directly from T-Mobile's website. Follow the activation kit instructions, and at some point you'll need to use a credit card to pay your initial $30 balance to get started. From there you can setup automatic payment if you like.
[Nexus 4 General] dwd3885:
Just order the activation kit from tmobile.com/prepaid. This is 99 cents shipped to you. Once you get the sim card, activate it online (they give you the info).

You can pay the $30 via credit card or any payment method. You can even specify an auto payment. You can also pay with prepaid cards someone were to buy for you (Christmas present anyone? :)

Hope this helps those who are confused.
[Nexus 4 General] joelshooty:
Thanks, I'll check it out.

Do you use the native Android "internet calling" client? If not, what do you use?
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
That's right. No need for physical cards.

calling mart gives you a recharge PIN as soon as your paypal payment goes thru, in a matter of seconds. They also send it by email, just in case.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Use callingmart.com to buy your $30 refills. Once you activate the account on the $30 plan, it doesn't matter where you get refills from but callingmart is cheaper (and almost always have a coupon code).
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
I love Vonage since I can still use my regular cell phone number which is on T-Mobile, without having to port it over. Sort of being able to use it in both places at once. Do you know if there's any other VoIP service that can do the same?
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Most VoIP providers (not android apps) offer spoofing cid.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
How about an example?
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
None are android apps, so I guess w/e. I was looking pretty much between a way to get Vonage to integrate with the stock dialer, or an alternative to Vonage that lets you show the same number, but neither seem to be possible as of the moment.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
To my knowledge, these allow outbound CID spoofing.

voip.ms

callcentric

pbxes (technically it's not a VoIP)

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pbxes can accomplish that. but there's a learning curve. tons of information in XDA.
[Nexus 4 General] Edw00d:
So the 100 Talk Minutes is used up no matter what? No Mobile to Mobile benefits like calling another T-Mobile number? That's a big bummer.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
Yeah every minute counts
[Nexus 4 General] Psilocin:
If I understand correctly, you have to keep paying for the $30 plan otherwise you lose it after 60 days of not paying, right? Reason why I'm concerned is that I may have to leave the states for a few months and wondering how to continue using the plan when I come back.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
You can always start over and activate a new account after you get back. I'm not entirely sure how it works in terms of your phone number and everything but people were mentioning it a bit somewhere in the past 80 pages or so, haha.
[Nexus 4 General] mrandradej:
Anyone recently ported their number to T-Mobile?

I was doing it through their website and I got up to the "Fund your account" step. I kept getting an error saying I had to choose an auto date pay but there was no such option in that screen. I closed down my browser but now I don't know if the porting process will go through even though I didn't add funds yet. I can't use the activation code that came with my SIM card anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
I got an error as well when I tired to add funds at the time of porting. Its a normal error. You won't be able to add funds until the port completes
[Nexus 4 General] mrandradej:
Oh thanks for that. Kind of odd to give the option to add funds as the last step even though its not possible yet if porting. How long until your port process finished? Did you receive a text message?
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Actually mine worked when I ported. Probably a certain glitch.

My number ported over from AT&T in 20 mins, but any incoming texts and calls still went to my old phone (outgoing worked). Overnight, the porting was complete
[Nexus 4 General] Edw00d:
Does MMS (sending pictures / videos) work with this plan?
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Yes
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Just get it and save $100 a month
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
I'd really really luv to get this plan,but just can't deal with all the headache of setting up G-voice,sipdroid and PBXes,not to mention getting your voicemail to work so you don't use your minutes listening to your messages...sounds like a huge hassle.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
If you don't want to deal with Google Voice, you can use Vonage Mobile (for free outgoing calls, if the other person has the app then there's free Vonage to Vonage. You don't need to actually Vonage as your telephone provider).

For voicemail, just download T-Mobile Visual Voicemail.
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
Yeah,but what about incoming calls.None of my friends have Vonage.:(
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Ask your close friends to download it. Or whatever VoIP app (like Viber, etc) they use or would rather use.

If you use your phone for a lot of business and can't just tell them to use an app then the plan is not really meant for you. Heck, it wasn't meant for heavy talkers in the first place. Some people are just willing to spend some time to make the most out of the $30
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
I guess you're right.Actually i'm not THAT heavy of a talker,but still 100 minutes/month is nowhere near enough.
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
How many voice minutes per month do you typically use? That's really, IMO, the prime determinant as to whether this plan is a good fit.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
My reply to this is pretty much the same as what I've quoted below

. You can actually use 250 mins and pay $45 which is the same as ST
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
If you wanna have incoming calls and only use one number, Google voice is the only choice that I know.

There are simpler ways to set up Google Voice than Sipdroid and PBXes. The simplest one is Groove IP and using wifi for most of your calls. You can use their separate $0.99 app called Groove Forwarder which will dynamically change you Google Voice forwarding settings depending on if Groove IP is connected. The disadvantage is that Groove IP doesn't use compression so you need a strong connection.

Talkatone is almost as convenient, but the free version comes with ads and there is no dynamic forwarding. What you do get is low bitrate Speex compression which is basically the same as what you'd be using with Sipdroid and PBXes, and works well with mobile data. Also PBXes has a bug where the GV line doesn't ring for more than 15 seconds (which in practice is a bit less, like 12-13 after the phone on the other end actually rings).

If you wanna have it all in a simple way, you can pay $20 a year for Talkatone premium, which is a good deal, you get server-side dynamic forwarding which means that besides the functionality Groove Forwarder provides, if for some reason your phone suddenly can't connect to the internet, their servers will change your forwarding settings to forward to your phone after a while. I tried Talkatone premium and I was satisfied, but I'm also satisfied with Groove IP+Forwarder. Only time I use up my minutes is basically in the car and those are short calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Psilocin:
Thanks. Pretty much answers my question. Guess I will have to get a new microsim when get back (it's free anyway) and then port the old tmo number over.
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
I use about 500-700 minutes a month give or take.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Lol mate then this plan is definitely not for you. If you want to set up Talkatone or GrooveIP or whatever then you could pay $30 for what you need. But if you talk 5 to 7 times more than the plan's allotment then we have a problem.

If a lot of that talking is with friends and family then Vonage is an easy solution.
[Nexus 4 General] NYCguy2020:
About a third of it is for work and the rest is friends and family.Guess I'll have to try it for a month and see what happens.
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
OK, then candidly this plan probably isn't a for fit for you.
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
Maybe try the 45 dollar GoSmartMobile plan or the one from Straight Talk. For about 10-15 more a month, you get unlimited talk and text, but you lose data a bit. With GoSmartMobile and Straight Talk, you either lose the ultra fast speed you're getting, or getting a cap of 2GB vs 5 GB, respectively. But for people like you, this just is not the plan, I think, even if you do manage to set up pbex and anything else, since it will create a small bit of hassle and you might be giving up on call quality as well.

This plan's just more for those who end up texting almost all the time, and use calling only for something short, or use home phones. It's definitely worth the extra 10-15, which is still a lot cheaper than directly going to AT&T or Verizon or something else.
[Nexus 4 General] spitswap:
Should work out fine.

100 minutes included

500-700 needed

Nope! I don't see any problems here.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Lol but i think he wants to try out the VoIP options and see if they will work out for his friends, family etc.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Setting up free VoIP is definitely not for everyone.

If you are willing to pay 1c per minute, VoIP.ms may be a great solution. It doesn't involve gv, sipdroid, pbxes. 600 minutes will cost less than 10 dollars. It has great reviews in galaxy nexus forum.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I use way more than 100 minutes but most of my calls are made at home. Therefore I think this plan can be perfect for me. I use tons of data streaming media mostly and I use many text messages.

My only real issue is not wanting to change my number. I am also concerned with how these services will work when a call comes in while I am on a call. I heard that people will get a message and no option to leave a message.

Someone mentioned paying $20 a year for talkatone I think. Does anyone use this method on a daily basis?

One last question.. I do like the tmob visual vmail. Is it true that in order to use Google voice the tmob vmail has to be disabled? Can this be done easily or does it require a phone call to support? I am assuming if this is done the visual mail is useless.
[Nexus 4 General] revamper:
You can't use Google voice voicemail on t mobile prepaid.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Yes you can. I do it just fine. Just call T-Mobile and ask them to disable your voicemail. GV will pick up every call.

Easy.
[Nexus 4 General] raiderep:
Pardon me if this has been asked here already but I ported my sprint # to T-Mobile to get away from sprint because it wasn't letting me port it to Google voice. Has anyone been able to port their existing T-Mobile # to Google voice?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] sporez:
Yes i ported my number from tmo to Google voice (it had originally come from Verizon). Everything went quite well.
[Nexus 4 General] ajax1:
.

To ericshemerick or others who have turned off voicemail

I get absolutely no T-Mobile reception at home.

Even though recently I have had voicemail turned off, T-Mobile still answers almost immediately if I have no reception. Now callers just can't leave messages.

So when I use GV to call home and cell, I still have to be quick enough to pick up the home phone before T-Mobile

answers.

3 question sets

1 - Can you tell me what happens if you call your T-Mobile phone and your T-Mobile phone has been off for more than 5 minutes and you try ring it 12 times. Does T-Mobile ever answer? Does it just stop ringing? Does it ring forever?

2 - Do I need to call T-Mobile again and have them change the way voicemail was disabled? Do you know exactly what I need to request?

3 - Is there a way to use GV to ring home and cell and not have T-Mobile interfere if I am slow to answer.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
You don't have to disable tmobile's voicemail and if you are using one of the dynamic forwarding options like on Talkatone premium it's practically never going to conflict with GV. I used Talkatone for the two free trial weeks and it worked fine even on mobile data. You can try it out as well, nothing lost. Setting up GV is not really hard, the Talkatone guys even provide you with step-by-step instructions.

If most of your calls are made where you have wifi, you can do what I do and get away with using Groove IP and Groove Forwarder. I'd use Talkatone premium only if I needed a lot of minutes over mobile data, otherwise for wifi Groove IP is just fine.
[Nexus 4 General] noyade233:
Anyone have problems porting over a current TMobile numbers to this $30 plan? I'm thinking about doing the switch from my tmobile contract plan, which is up now, to this plan but don't really want to lose my number.
[Nexus 4 General] Prod1702:
Since you already have a T-Mobile number to get this done you have to.

1. port your number to another carrier, doesn't matter what just port the number out.

2. Open a new Monthly 4G account with the $30 plan and a new number.

3. go into a T-Mobile Retail Store and ask them to port your number into T-Mobile from where ever you ported out to.

The problem is since you already have a T-Mobile number you are unable to get the $30 plan. T-Mobile only gives that plan to new customers, but since you are porting your number out to another carrier then porting back in to a Monthly 4G account you are by passing the whole move from Postpaid to Monthly 4G. I am a T-Mobile RSA and this is what we have had to do to get ppl to that $30. It is a ***** yes but in the end if the cost is cheaper over all you save and are happy. Also to add do not use the port in part of the website. I have seen this cause a lot of problems with ppl. If you go into the Store the RSA that helps you can do this for in less then 10mins.
[Nexus 4 General] raiderep:
Were you already on the 30 a month plan? Did you have to call T-Mobile? On the Google voice site it says my number isn't in an area they can port from but my wife's sprint number ported easily. I was thinking once it was free from Sprint it would go smoothly but hasn't worked yet.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] sporez:
Yes i was on the 30$ plan. No calls to tmobile. I simply started the port through Google and 24 hours later it was complete (texts took a couple days to work).

No idea why one number would port and the other doesn't from the same area code.
[Nexus 4 General] noyade233:
Thanks. Anyone know the cheapest/easiest option for porting? I know google voice charges $20 to port in a number. I'm guessing I can then immediately turn around and port it back to tmobile from GV?
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
If you go that route, why do you want to port back the number to Tmo $30 plan?

IMHO, one of the benefits of prepaid plan is off contract. For example, I can cancel the plan and start again with a new Tmo number, when I'm back from a long international trip. I give out my GV number to my friends. So changing Tmo number is a non-issue for me.

Is there a compelling reason why you must keep your number as a Tmo number?
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Don't forget solevei
[Nexus 4 General] redsox123:
I'll tell you what worked for me, it's similar to what noyade233 said but different. I originally had a tmobile prepaid plan and i found out about this $30/month plan with 5GB of data. It sounded great so i called up tmobile and asked if I could switch to it. They said it's only for new tmobile prepaid customers or people switching from a contract. To get around it I changed my prepaid plan to the cheapest contract plan they had, then cancelled it after 2 weeks. I then activated a new prepaid line with the $30 plan and ported my number from the contract to the prepaid plan. I did have to pay the early termination fee, but in the end I got a brand new phone (amaze 4g) for about 450 (which at the time was about 600 on ebay). It is a lot of hoops to just through, but it is definitely worth it. There is no plan from any carrier that can compare with this one.
[Nexus 4 General] raiderep:
Well thanks for the info. I might just have to give up on my old number and choose a new Google voice one. I want one number with GV so switching plans and or services will be much less painful in the future. It doesn't make any sense about not being able to port to GV but I can't seem to be able to dig up any more help on this...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] mercs213:
Got my Nexus 4 today and went with T-Mobile.

Quick Question

I seen that callingmart.com sells refills that are usually discounted. Which one do I buy? Ex. T-Mobile Monthly Plan (Retail 30$) or is it a different one?

Thanks if anyone can help! :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Buy any one. T-Mobile takes your balance by money, so the card you put in will simply be a money balance that can be used for any plan.

I personally bought the $100 one so I'd be good to go for a few months
[Nexus 4 General] Mr Ian B:
Can someone clear something for me on this plan, I have used about 50 mins of the 100 allowed per month. I have decided to give vonage mobile a try. 3 contacts already invited and accepted and the mins have not shown as cell phone minutes which is great.

Now for the question:

Just made 3 calls on vonage mobile over my wifi network to 3 contacts NOT using the vonage app on their end. I talked with all of them for a combined time of over 30 mins and checked my TMobile accounts afterwards and none of the minutes showed.

1- Does vonage mobile still free if you are on wifi whether the person on the other end has the app or not?

2- If the person when I call via vonage mobile app does not use vonage app, does it count towards my minutes or not?

Tia,

Ian B
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
1. Yes still free. If they don't have the app it affects their minutes but not yours

2. It does not count towards your minutes. Same answer as above
[Nexus 4 General] Mr Ian B:
Thanks for your response. Basically, if I am in wifi all my calls on Vonage mobile will be free. This is awesome and I hardly make calls when not in wifi. The 100 minutes will be more than enough.

Love this plan and Nexus 4,

Ian B
[Nexus 4 General] yahoowizard:
You don't really have to be on Wi-Fi, HSPA or 3G connection works, as well, if you go outside. The only limitation is that they're only outgoing calls, and not incoming.
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Yeah. I love Vonage's app. The quality is simply superb. I'd gladly pay them some money (insert SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY image here) for inbound if they offered it. For some reason, using the game G.729 codec with VoIP.ms still doesn't give me the same great quality as their app does.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr Ian B:
Thanks you 2 for info. As far as incoming calls from people who call me and talk a lot, I have sent them an invite to the app. This is the only time when my 100 mins will come into play.

Ian B
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Yeah, I used to rely solely on Vonage (and probably will go back to it if VoIP.ms doesn't start working better for me). I just got used to the phrase "hold on let me call you right back" or ignoring a call and calling them right back. Ugly, but saving money usually is.