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[Nexus 4 General] biffsmash:
I'm looking to get a Nexus 4 and the build quality is one thing that draws me to the Nexus, but bad battery is worrying. Pure google software does seem to burn the battery. GNEX Battery was bad, and SGS3 with CM10 battery is bad, but SGS3 with samsung software on has excellent battery life. The Nexus 4 is very slippy when placed on surfaces too, just a slight movement and they supposedly slide off things.

As for cheap plastic on samsung phones, this is annoying, but at least they survive a fall.

The one thing that has impressed me with samsung, which you probably won't see on the Nexus is split screen multitasking as that really is innovative and i've used it a lot.

My main worries with Nexus 4 are camera, which I think will be average, Battery life which I think will also be average, sound quality and speaker phone volume, which again seem average and the camera, which does seem to be acceptable but the software is rubbish.

Anyway thanks for the review, and i'll keep a close eye on this forum to make my decision when and if they come back in stock for the price they sold out at (£239 in uk)

Cheers

p.s.. Google selling a bumper has to be the single most puke worthy thing i've ever seen lmao :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
You think the camera software is rubbish? I think sphere and the way they set up the new menu for the camera is just so innovative and cool.

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[Nexus 4 General] :
Don't know why people are claiming Samsung are innovative because multi-window multitasking was developed for Android by some crew at XDA and it was pulled cause Google didn't like the changes done to the OS and threatened to drop Gapps for AOSP ROMS like CM if they merged it
[Nexus 4 General] basketthis:
Great review.

Side note: built=build ;)
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
I'm still using my S2 at the moment and the screen burn in is absolutely shocking!
[Nexus 4 General] moosery:
It can be the most awesome device in the world but the battery life is a hangup for me. No way am I going back to those days when you had to carry emergency chargers around, and constantly dock it while doing anything.

Bad battery, if true, is not a technological leap, it's a compromise. It's like having a fast car that can only go 50 miles on a tank.
[Nexus 4 General] ferris2375:
lol unbiased rrrrriiiight

A MILLION TIMES BETTER!
[Nexus 4 General] abrown0809:
The review is good. As far as the battery life is concerned, I'm just going to have the charing orb and nokia fanboys in all the places that a frequent, such as work and my room, living room.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Just because someone really likes it more than his last device does not mean they are biased...

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In terms of battery life, how many times are people really away from a car or an outlet for so many hours anyways?

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[Nexus 4 General] tariqgibran:
Just curious if you applied the OTA update to the Nexus 4 before you experienced this poor battery life. That's the first thing I did when setting my phone up.

I believe it was the Ars Technica review where they showed the Nexus 4 had poor software power management as compared to the LG Optimus G. The Nexus pretty much ran "full blast", which gave it incredible initial benchmarks but it ran out of juice really fast. it could be that the OTA update tweaked the power management. I have no proof - just speculating but I'm sure this is a case were better and better power management tweaking will lead to huge gains.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I would bet that battery life will get better and better. Let's not forget 4.2 was just a maintenance release and there will be many updates. And I am not even mentioning what the famous xda devs will do either.

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[Nexus 4 General] noneabove:
Please.. never quote OP especially when it's a really long OP... if you're replying in a thread people assume you're answering the original post and don't need to see more walls of text than necessary.
[Nexus 4 General] Brac20:
Thanks for the detailed review. I really want to get one of these if I can get someone to bite and buy my One X off me.

I had a play around with a Nexus 4 in an O2 shop the other day and I have to say I disagree massively on one point. You said that the glass back makes it slippery and easy to drop. I didn't find that this was the case at all, in fact I wanted to try this out so I lay it flat on my palm and tipped my hand (over something soft of course). The phone did not slip AT ALL even when I had my hand tipped to 60 odd degrees. I personally can't see the phone easily slipping from my grasp (maybe you just have very sweaty hands ;) ).

I thought the screen was great. I put it next to my One X (amazing screen) and turned the brightness to the same level for both. I have to say that the screen on the N4 looks great, it's hard to say if its as good as the One X but it's certainly up there.

There have been varying reports on the battery. I hope Google sort it out with 4.2.1.

Although having a One X I am quite used to poor battery performance now and I'm rarely out of range of a charger.
[Nexus 4 General] yyz71:
Cool story bro:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Miketoberfest:
Here is my HONESTLY completely BIAS Nexus 4 Review & Impressions

5 x better.. A thousand times better.. A MILLION Times better!!

This “review” reeks of bias. It’s more like a “Hey I have a huge hard-on for the Nexus4, this is why..” kind of write up more than anything, which in all respects is great. It’s good to be excited about new toys. Personally I can’t wait to get my sweet mittens on the new nexus. What I don’t quite get, and to me this is completely detrimental to your whole outlook, is that in your “review” you make many points on why you think product X is better than product Y, their apparent shortcomings.. yada yada, but as soon as someone is to reply with why they think Y is superior to X, you cry “flame war” and “fanboyism”, seemingly taking offence. After all, you did finish your “review” with “feel free to comment”. This is a discussion forum right? I think you’d fair better next time if you left the emotion out of it. I’m glad you like your new phone, I absolutely can’t wait to get mine.
[Nexus 4 General] yyz71:
Schooled;)
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I feel bad for that poor dude that **** his pants..

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[Nexus 4 General] :
The problem is when people make assertions based on personal opinion rather than experience is what makes their opinion unbalanced and basically crap. Someone who has owned two great cars and tells you one is greater than the other and someone who thinks one is the best cause they like it and some functionality it has, who would you think is in a position to know better, why would you even argue when you don't know and are simply talking out your ass. Opinions by nature are subjective, its hard to be unbiased but I think he made a good attempt and focusing on one word as the base of your counter-argument proves this, you had no material
[Nexus 4 General] thepce:
Lol, sweet math brah.

J/K Really good review.

I can usually make 2 days and a couple of hours on my GNex off a full charge, so i'm hoping the batt for the N4 lasts me somewhere close to that (or at least a day). I I dont believe I am quite as heavy a user as you are with your phone, and i dont really use GPS, so here's hoping

Anyone know when the Google Play store will be restocking up N4's?
[Nexus 4 General] MultiLockOn:
Dan37tz. You're my hero. Wish I could thank your post more ahaah. OP is a little ignorant and immature based on his posts in this thread
[Nexus 4 General] Spitfire:
I've never been on the forums for a product launch, but is there always so much forum rage over a new device? If someone posts a bad review, they're spoiled or it's user error. If someone posts a good review they are a fanboi. E-rage is great :D

Thanks for your review OP.
[Nexus 4 General] :
You'd think some of these guys are paid by "insert company" to promote these products, flame wars are strong in this thread. Note 2 and GS3 lovers should go to their forums, don't give a damn how great they are or aren't, contribute more info on Nexus and I'll be happy
[Nexus 4 General] Dan37tz:
The OP was comparing the Note 2 and GS3 to the N4 in the original post. If S3 or Note 2 owners find his information disingenuous shouldn't they be entitled to try and correct or offer more accurate info? By ignoring opinions and sending them back to their "forums" isn't that just being ignorant?
[Nexus 4 General] rec71:
I used my GPS for 30 minutes today (Runtastic) and it used 5% of my battery.

I've had my first day at work with my N4 today - so a typical day for me - and I've come home with 60% battery left. Which is just fine. I've used 40% about 12 hours.
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
Lol this thread has become a pissing contest.
[Nexus 4 General] In4somefun:
Bought myself an N4 and so far love the phone ... Thanks for the review!
[Nexus 4 General] alsheron:
Display

Hi - Great review - thanks for posting :)

One question. I went into an O2 and carphone warehouse shop in the UK to look at a N4 and the first thing I noticed is that the display looks a bit washed out/dull. Only on FULL brightness did the display look ok and at auto brightness it was genuinely on the dark side. Did you notice anything like this on your unit? Especially coming from AMOLED screens I'm surprised you never mentioned any dullness or washed out look. Reason I ask is that I'm wondering if there are quite wide variances between units. The two I saw were definitely a deflating experience for me as I was excited about the N4. It's almost like it's a gamma issue or something.
[Nexus 4 General] Dan37tz:
Schooled? Go read my reply to the OP, his information is all inaccurate, full of BS and contradictions.

I admit, I am biased but I don't claim that I'm not. I back my info up.

I tend to favor Samsung's. I like the way they engineer their phones, they are simple and straightforward to fix for the most part. As a lead senior repair technician working for a company that does component level system board repair on mobile devices, tear down analysis, also doing full refurbishment and repair of all major phone brands, mainly Apple products, 30-50k units a month combined, you learn to personally hate some brands. (HTC and LG comes to mind).

It's obvious the OP knows a lot less about technology then he projects.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I literally just unboxed the N4 and have yet to turn it on, will do so in 30 sec ( right after this comment) but my first impressions is that this thing is SO BEAUTIFUL! Oh my God seriously, its lighter than i expected and the rubber edges are awesome. It is one sexy phone, wow! Ok time to turn it on!

Edit: I'm speechless, its a fantastic phone.... I don't know what to say....
[Nexus 4 General] CyberPunk7t9:
Thank you very much for the valuable notes. I have the Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 4 now, but it was interesting to read comments about the N4 from someone who have owned the One X, the S III and the GNEX. How do think those 4 phones compare in terms of external speaker loudness/clarity?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] badersama:
Nexus 4 screen is just a MILLIONS

stopped here.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
I come from a S2, Note 1, Gnexus, One X, S3 and note 2. Before I say anything, Note 2 and nexus 4 are better than all the phones I mentioned. The galaxy note 2 is the type of phone that set a bar, I've never been more satisfied with a phone than the more 2. It has amazing hardware, it is feature packed, battery life is stellar ( I'm talking about iPad territory which is insane) big screen and S pen. To me, any phone that comes after the note 2 needs to pay homage loll but seriously, that phone is EVERYTHING someone would want in a phone. With that being said, Its been only an hour since I've unboxed this nexus 4 and I can already tell that it is more fluid than the note 2, the screen is better by far, and it runs stock android. Not to mention the specs which makes it the most powerful phone on the planet as of now (optimistic G. Droid DNA have custom UIs). It's too early to say anything but so far I live the nexus 4 and I do not regret my decision of leaving the nor 2 ONLY for a nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] knuckles1978:
The fact that it's his new toy and he's obviously truly madly deeply in love with it does, though :D

Not biased lol, come on eh.... Btw, I'm not at all saying that the nexus 4 is not a brilliant phone. I'll reserve that judgement until I get my hands on one, either that or I read a good unbiased review lol :D

Did you manage to get all the jizz wiped off??!
[Nexus 4 General] jonnyg1097:
The one thing I am still iffy about with this phone is the battery. I hate how this phone is pretty much perfect in every way except for the fact that the battery only gets people barely a day of use even with the bigger battery.
[Nexus 4 General] dieselfatal:
Haha, I just love how Note 2 / GS3 fanboys come here, looking for attention. Like, this is Nexus 4 forum, no need to start N2vsN4 bull****. This thread is for people who are thinking about buying Nexus 4. I had N2 and GS3 and now I think N4 owns them both but IT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION that Haters and fanboys wont respect. I respect if someone likes one phone better than the other one. Like whatever you want brah its your life but dont look like a clown and hijack my thread because you are a HATER. Let us enjoy our N4 community and go have fun being a fanboy in N2 section - simple as that. Certain people just wont accept when someone likes something else and thinks its better. TRUST ME I can afford all 3 phones to have. I paid Note 2 $700 from Expansys USA. Paid $660 for GS3 also Expansys. Both phones were absolutely great but I sold them, used a $50 phone till I bought N4. I am more satisfied with N4 then N2 and GS3 I had. Pure Android, 4.2 JBand UNTIL you use Nexus 4 you won't realize how much smoother and faster the phone is. You cannot compare TW with pure Android. Its like having a gold chain. One is 10-14-18k its still good and all but baby 24k is where its all at. PURE. Screen on N4 is better than on Note 2 and GS3 period. Im not a fanboy here just stating facts. Colors, Sharpness, Pictures, Text everything looks better and more REALISTIC. If you disagree than you simply just won't admit. But your entitled to your opinion and I would ask for the last time dont hijack my thread.

When I mention you and yours it means Im relplying to heavy fanboys of N2/GS3.
[Nexus 4 General] Traxex_:
I upgraded from a GS3 and don't regret my decision for a single second.

The Nexus 4 is so fast and fluid that I would never want to go back to another non nexus device.

Thanks LG and Google for this wonderful device.
[Nexus 4 General] acp5533:
You can't even see the aqua color on the Note 2 play store bag it looks completely washed out and the detailed texture of the bag on the GS3 is completely lost on the Note 2. It's completely understandable that the Nexus 4 could be 100x better than the Note 2's display, I agree with the OP.
[Nexus 4 General] knuckles1978:
Dan37tz, I applaud you, for taking the time to show the OP'er up for the bell end that he is.

That is my unbiased and honest take on the situation. :D
[Nexus 4 General] MrBeebe228:
I actually get better battery life than I did with my GS3
[Nexus 4 General] mrm43:
I totally agree to this.
[Nexus 4 General] dieselfatal:
Keep hating HATER :) your making yourself look like a tool. There must be something that makes you not wanna hop of my nuts. Jealousy is a sad thing. Keep hating.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Dude, you act really immature. Grow up.. You are the one hating.

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[Nexus 4 General] dieselfatal:
I keep hating ? On my own thread I started...got nearly 100 thanks..I guess I might be doing something right ? Or not...Im not sure what this clown wants besides ruining this thread that is meant for N4/future owners not NOTE 2 or GS3. If someone doesnt like what was posted then dont reply. At the end of the day N4 > N2/GS3.

Deal with it. End of story. Sorry but thats life. Now continue to spam my thread some more. I guess it must be boring in N2/GS3 section. You surely see a lot of N2 owners coming here looking for flame war...why ? One word JEALOUSY
[Nexus 4 General] qwer23:
I never had a Touchwiz device and currently rock a GNex, so I'm hardly a N2/GS3 fanboy and I appreciate your review, although it isn't unbiased as you write in thread title.

But dude, your attitude is horrible. You state wrong facts about screen technology, you ignore the correct and reasonable answer and call everyone who disagrees a fanboy, although you ended the OP with "feel free to comment". What exactly is your problem?

Stop bragging about your 100+ likes and how you make enough money to afford all your phones and start to be a little more reasonable and a little less childish please.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
No offense but just because you posted does not mean you own the thread. And I am not spamming.I read this thread looking for some information and instead all I see is you yelling. Decafe maybe? And yes, I agree that the nex 4 is probably better but people are allowed to think what they want.

They are all great devices and I would be happy with any one of then right now while I wait for mine.

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[Nexus 4 General] thegregulator:
I don't know why people would expect an unbiased and honest review of a phone in a forum dedicated to that particular device. That's better something left to mobile tech blogs, and even then you'd be very hard pressed to find one without bias towards a particular manufacturer/platform.

The OP is far from biased, but that's okay. He's allowed to like the device he's reviewing, just like we're allowed to chime in and say we think he's wrong about some things. This thread has really outlived its usefulness and it's probably time to close it.
[Nexus 4 General] qwer23:
Agreed, and like I already said, I don't care if the OP is biased, it's nice to hear good things about the N4. But it's no excuse for arrogant and ignorant behaviour.
[Nexus 4 General] tvdang7:
It's just my opinion but I'm not liking this screen when its side by side next to my Gnex.......the colors look very washed out.
[Nexus 4 General] dieselfatal:
My thread should be closed huh ? Or maybe that clown shouldnt say i need to wipe jizz off my N4...now who is immature here
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
For anyone saying that the "colors are washed out" clearly hasn't used the phone...I have the N4, and I can assure you that the colors are all very vibrant, full with rich, detailed color...especially the black and the whites...By far the best display I've ever seen on any device...
[Nexus 4 General] knuckles1978:
It's you that's making a tit of yourself. :D

I was only poking fun at ur unbiased review. You did ask for it by claiming that it was unbiased, by the nonsense that you wrote in it, and also by acting like a twelve year old.

I'm not trying to slate the n4, in fact it very possibly is the best phone out of the 3. Don't know if I could live with wishy washy colours after being used to the beautiful vibrant amoleds though. I know that they are over saturated, but I don't want true to life colour accuracy on a phone. On a TV, yes. To play games and do the rest of what I use my phone for, I'd rather have the popping colours. :)
[Nexus 4 General] crazyfool_1:
Outside of the N4 vs S3/N2 'whose a fan boy' crap, I'm pretty certain the battery life on this phone will improve immensely once we can get a kernel on there not running interactive governor.. No doubt this makes a huge difference to the Optimus G which is running ICS, interactive was introduced with JB
[Nexus 4 General] tvdang7:
Not sure how i'm " not using the phone" when it's in my possession . It was my opinion and an accurate statement when side by side with the Gnex. Some people like the vibrant colors some like the the regular colors.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
I have unboxed N4 an hour ago, paid 6 bucks to install Most Wanted on it, just to compare the performance and I had to disagree with you.

I had several frame loss with N4. MW never ran as smooth as it was on Note II. I still like the phone a lot, but I'm tending to keep Note II instead of N4. I also ran Egypt HD on both phones, while Note II is a little bit faster, N4 acutally shows better frame rate (as far as I can see.) I didn't finish the benchmark becasue I don't think it is necessary.

The dev support right now is the only thing that is in N4's direction. I'll use it for another 2 days before I decide which one to sell. Not being a Samsung fan, I am extremely impressed with Note II.
[Nexus 4 General] secretasianman:
Thanks for the review. It reaffirms my decision to NOT get the Nexus 4. I'll stay with my Galaxy Nexus and wait for the next Nexus device.

I'm often in areas where I have no cellular coverage so the 16GB storage limitation on my GNex was an irritant. I cannot believe Google didn't release a 32GB version Nexus 4.

The bigger problem I face is bad battery life. It's really a shame they didn't use a higher capacity battery. I'd have preferred a removable battery over wireless charging.

I can believe GPS usage killing your battery in an hour. A huge 4.7" high resolution LCD screen and GPS chipset being on the whole hour will do it. I'm curious how your cellular signal faired during the drive. Loss of signal causes the phone to constantly search for a cellular signal.

If you spend most of your time in a metropolitan area with good coverage and charging sources nearby I think the Nexus 4 is still the best value though. I would not hesitate recommending it to friends and family who want a new phone but no 2 year contract.
[Nexus 4 General] cowgaR:
not a honest review by far...

Thread might be useful to specify Nexus 4 display serial numbers/manufactures (seen in HW identification utilities for android) to see what screens Nexus4 comes with. (I am based in UK so I guess I had international GSM model)

I held the Nexus 4 right to some other phones (read above) and played with it - and the screen was rather mediocre, with bland colours renderings. Thought it was crisp as mentioned.

But Galaxy Note 2 screen is not even the same league, it's different sport altogether. It is the best screen (imo) on the market today that only iPhone5 holds a comparison to. How can you say such a things about Nexus 4 screen and shout about HONEST review in the topic - and not get a ban on the forum is without my comprehension. There is too much mess in this forum lately.

Am I still on XDA? Or are there really different screens available? Or are you just unhealthy biased? It's just the phone...

http://bit.ly/URmJsg
[Nexus 4 General] flucks:
I had it and I have the S3. The S3 has much better colors in my opinion. I can see why people would say it's washed out. One of the reasons I sold mine.