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[Nexus 4 General] dynamicpda:
Received the N4 today and signed up for T-Mobile $30 plan. This is my first time using a SIM card and I had a scare after activating the card when I couldn't fit the card into the tray. I was worried that I needed a nano card until I realized that I needed to turn the card sideways.

Verizon has trouble holding onto one bar of 3G where I work. On T-mobile I get 4 bars of H. I clocked 18mpbs down, 3 up. Great speeds.

Vonage works great. The person I called told me how great the voice quality was, over the HSPA+, compared to my old GN GrooveIP combo.

I will take the phone out later in other parts of the area to see how the service is. If it looks good, I will kiss goodbye to Verizon and port my number over. I hope it is not a hassle.
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
With a regular phone system if I receive a call to my Google voice number it will send that call via Google Chat via wifi to Groove IP which will show the number calling Google Voice and if I call someon with Groove IP it will show the person on the other end my Google voice number. But since as I understand it Vonage doesn't work with Google Voice like Groove IP then I can't figure what number would show when calling out with Vonage. Note supose you only have a Google voice number.
[Nexus 4 General] Geburtenfresser:
Service drops out soon after turning on

On another note, does anyone experience this:

At work T-Mobile is known to have very weak signal. Other people only have service outside the building.

However, shortly after turning my Nexus 4 on or after switching off airplane mode, the signal has 3 bars. They quickly disappear though, and soon there will be no signal. This is very consistent. Makes me wonder if there is something like increased radio strength shortly after the cellular radio has been turned on. Maybe this could be left on increased strength constantly? Just wild speculations but maybe somebody knows something?

cheers
[Nexus 4 General] dynamicpda:
I'm on the TMO $30 plan with a new number and I want to port an existing number from Verizon.

I can't find a link on the tmobile website to do this. Do I have to call in?

(Anything I find on TMO refers to porting at time of activation. I'm obviously porting after activation.)
[Nexus 4 General] harsubs:
You have to call customer service. Or use the chat with an agent service - that's what I did. Port from ATT took a few hours on a Saturday morning.
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
I used online chat. Ended the chat at 9:45pm, and by 8am the next morning, the number was ported.
[Nexus 4 General] maxspen:
I've been on this plan for almost a month now and after tweaking GrooveIP for a long time, i finally have it working very well over WiFi and on HSPA+. Dammit i love this phone!
[Nexus 4 General] Merk62:
I really wanted to use this plan but it looks like T-mobile coverage in Dutchess County, NY isn't very good.
[Nexus 4 General] dynamicpda:
I wound up calling T-Mobile to initiate the port around 5 PM.

My billing cycle with Verizon ends today. I'm worried that if the port takes until tomorrow that I'll be liable for a new billing cycle and an extra $100.

Usually, they say to let the port go through before cancelling. Here it to go through and make sure it cancels at the end of today.

Any suggestions? Verizon has a suspend option. Can the port go through while I have the account suspended?
[Nexus 4 General] skttls:
My port was practically instant...it typically takes a few hours at most, as I understand it.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
I would call Verizon and explain the situation to them. They may just not continue it or stop it once the port is done.

I would not cancel it before the port is complete or try a suspend. They are likely to lock it down
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
How do you select whether to answer via Groove IP or your cell service and how do you know Groove IP is not useing your data plane but is using wifi instead?
[Nexus 4 General] HTCMDA:
anyone rooted, with free wifi tethering? or has anyone rooted and froze the standard wifi hotspot app, and still been able to use it without any issue?
[Nexus 4 General] dyslexicpenguin:
Any helpful hints on how to fix my utterly atrocious tmobile speed tests? I'm getting a ping of 1085ms, 1222kbps download, 496 kbps upload. This is all while having two bars and an H on my status bar. I feel as though some setting is messed up somewhere, and I'm not getting true speed potential. I'm in So-Cal so my speeds would be pretty strong I would think....
[Nexus 4 General] FallN:
Just picture proof for those unsure: You have until 08/08/2015 to activate the SIM cards.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
If you are forwarding to your cell number then groove IP will usually pop up first, then the dialer will, but then groove IP will pop up again. You'll just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to do it if you want to answer with groove IP. If you want to answer with the dialer, I know you can dismiss the groove IP screen, IIRC with the back button.

You can tell whether Groove IP is using wifi or cell data just by knowing if you're connected to wifi or cell data. You can only use one or the other at any given time. I didn't trust Groove IP and the network enough to let it connect on cell data, there's an option on the paid version for that.
[Nexus 4 General] m3lover1:
Same here. I thought we had 42 in our area. In the phone status spot it days hspa10
[Nexus 4 General] burrrcub:
Is this normal? My number transfer is complete but when I sent a text out from my N4, the response goes to my Verizon GNex that still has service.
[Nexus 4 General] cphancock1:
You might have dual service for a few days. I did
[Nexus 4 General] burrrcub:
Guess that good and bad. The bad is that when people respond to my text it goes to the GNex and not my N4.
[Nexus 4 General] rehughe:
Absolutely loving this plan! I've been using Vonage for outgoing calls and have had no issues at all.

I don't receive too many calls, so I'm not worried about going over the minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Additional minutes are only 10 cents, one of TMO's lowest price per-minute charges...Gold members and Callingmart-style code/coupons notwithstanding.
[Nexus 4 General] HTCMDA:
think mine said 08/25/2015
[Nexus 4 General] dynamicpda:
I posted earlier about porting to TMO from VZW. I called in ~5PM and read the operator my number, account number and account pin. Double checked to be sure.

About 10 PM, I found myself in dual mode. The N4 on TMO could send and receive texts using the ported VZW number. And it could make calls but not receive them with that number.

My billing cycle ends today so i was particularly worried about getting the port done today. I called both VZW and TMO and both told me to let the port go through the completely before trying to cancel if I wanted to keep the number. However, the TMO guy said that technically the port had gone through, it was merely going through the process; the VZW rep could see nothing about the port on her system.

I made the executive decision to risk losing the number over racking up another month's VZW charge, so I told the VZW rep to close the account, hoping that the process could not be stopped.

After hanging up, the port regressed and I assumed the number was lost. I couldn't send or receive texts. Calling the number gave me a VZW disconnected message. (Don't remember what happened calling out.)

Four hours or so later, I checked again, and everything ported perfectly!

You're probably better off waiting it out, but I posted this to share insight on the process.
[Nexus 4 General] MisakaImouto:
I couldn't find any info on this, so I thought I'd ask here.

Are there any daily data limits with this plan?

I'm coming from straighttalk and the worst part about it was the ~100MB a day soft cap.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
I doubt it, the daily cap seems to be a ST only thing
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
So what happens when you go over the 100mb limit?
[Nexus 4 General] MisakaImouto:
It's actually pretty common for MVNOs, though of course T-Mo isn't an MVNO.

Do you mean for straight talk? I wasn't saying this plan has daily limits.

Either way on ST if you use over 100MB in a day nothing usually happens, but they sometimes will cut off your data. I've had it happen once already.
[Nexus 4 General] zMarkb:
How is the coverage down in Orlando with T-Mobile. I will be moving there the college later on in the month.
[Nexus 4 General] stud_muffler:
Voicemail Calls

Hi, I'm new to T-Mobile and prepaid plans.

Are calls to Voicemail free on this $30 plan?

:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] Williaml232:
Just setup Google Voicemail with Google Voice. Much better than calling in for voicemail.
[Nexus 4 General] sporez:
T-mobile offers a visual voice mail app also. Google voice is probably better though.
[Nexus 4 General] El Niche:
Im on the exact same boat. Today with my HTC One S, I was getting around 7Mbps. Got my N4 and now I got 1013kbps. I have no idea whats going on

---------- Post added at 09:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 PM ----------

I am also in the Miami area and Im getting terrible speeds, but only with my N4. I dont know if I need to change a setting or what
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
Just wanted to comment I am north of Tampa, I am getting 10Mpbs - 15Mpbs with my N4, I am completely stock just popped my sim card in and off I went.. didn't configure any settings.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
Where just north if Tampa are you? My parents are in Wesley chapel and are thinking of switching... I'm in lakeland
[Nexus 4 General] Tyscott:
I'm actually getting the best connection using talkatone over t mobiles 4G. Groove IP was poor and my friends said they heard echoes.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
google voicemail

I just got my Nexus and set up Google Voice as my primary number with forwarding to the T-Mobile number. On the GV setup page, it says that I cannot use GVoicemail as the default for TM prepaid plans.

From previous threads here, it sounds like I can use GVoicemail if I call TM to turn off my voicemail. Do I have that right?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] asdf916:
i'm having trouble with wifi tethering to my laptop. my laptop is able to find AndroidAP and will attempt to connect to the net, but doesn't get anywhere.

i entered my N4's IMEI when i activated my sim card. did i screw myself?
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
Do you have data on your phone?
[Nexus 4 General] asdf916:
yep. data working just fine. just tried on my old Samsung Vibrant to see if it was an issue with the laptop, but it isn't as the vibrant isn't able to connect to the internet either. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
Not quite.

1. When your friends call your GV number, GV forwards to Tmo. If you don't disable Tmo voicemail, Tmo voicemail will answer and GV voicemail becomes useless. That's why must disable Tmo voicemail.

2. If your friends call Tmo number, Tmo calls won't forward to GV. That's why GVoicemail can't be used as default voicemail for TM calls.
[Nexus 4 General] scarhill:
The way to avoid problem #2 is to only give out your Google Voice number, and set outgoing calls to only use GV. That way no one should be calling your TM number.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
I don't think I understand correctly:

1: without tethering can you access Google.com on the Nexus?

2: without tethering can you access Google.com on the Vibrant?
[Nexus 4 General] asdf916:
yes the nexus and vibrant are connecting to the internet just fine with the sim card in them.

when i try to wifi tether a device to my N4 that's getting data, those devices are able to find and connect to AndroidAP, but isn't actually giving me an internet connection.
[Nexus 4 General] altimax98:
Sounds like an issue with your computer to me
[Nexus 4 General] ScottyNuttz:
Pretty bummed that T-mobile doesn't work well here in Southern Maine. I got a SIM and a month of service to try out. I get 2-3 Mbps down in the best areas, roaming (no data) in rural areas and edge petty much anywhere else there's no traffic lights.

I was really hoping to get on this plan, but it looks like ST's AT&T micro SIM is going to be the way to go around here. My AT&T SIM gets 3-7 Mbps in most of the areas i regularly travel. At least I'm spared a difficult decision for now.
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
Hey quick question since I am sure most of you are using vonage..

I been out of the android seen for a bit now, and just recently got the nexus 4. I decided to use T-mobile service and so far its been amazing. However I been using vonage for outgoing calls to get past the 100min limit. Now i noticed in better battery stats > alarms > vonage has a ton of wake ups - like 400 after 8 hours - its my top one. Is this normal? I tried exiting the app completely which helps but sometimes it just starts back up again on its own.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] sidat24:
I have been using this plan on my Vibrant for a good while, and I can say that data is very reliable in the metro Atlanta area. The reception is consistent even in buildings.
[Nexus 4 General] asdf916:
but my vibrant isn't able to connect to the net when it's using the N4's tether
[Nexus 4 General] stud_muffler:
Thanks for replays, but that is not what I meant.

Let me rephrase the question.

Do calls to t-mobile voicemail count toward 100 minutes limit?

:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] etx:
Nobody has mentioned the Vonage app in this thread in a while, but I have a question. When I try it my caller ID shows unknown, which kinda sucks. The quality is better than google voice with GrooveIP or Spare Phone. Google voice calling over Wifi is so bad I can't use it at all.
[Nexus 4 General] Jniede:
both apps work fine over wifi, the issue is using both apps over 3g/HSPA+42. How do they fare then? I do not have access to wifi unless I'm home and so if I'm outside and have coverage but do not want to use my 100 minutes then I must use something like grooveip or vonage. Which works better?
[Nexus 4 General] Geburtenfresser:
Well, in the mornings the speeds are much better. Miami area.
[Nexus 4 General] amdhunter:
EDIT: Found out it was the "Zone" I chose for service. NYC has a ton of zones, I ended up choosing Zone 6 and it worked.

Original OP below:

Tried for 3 hours now. I can't get it to work. What a failure.

Rep on the phone said the plan isn't available for the Nexus 4.

God dammit. I'm probably going to just sell this POS out of frustration.

Tried Web Activation: We’re sorry, we’re still working to process your activation. Please wait a few moments and then try navigating to another web page. You should receive a text message to your device when your activation is processed.

Tried Automated Activation: Doesn't list the $30 plan.

Tried Customer Service: Refused to activate $30 plan.

Annoying and I am done with trying to get this activated anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Will Google ever fix the lag with GV? I keep filling up the $30 plan every now and again to keep it on ice (currently still using AT&T post-paid) but hated the voice lag with GV...too much to switch full time.

I use it every now and again (my current GV number) but don't think I want to go all in quite yet. It's pretty annoying to interrupt and talk over people.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisbd1:
I had this once. I just backed out and tried again. W/O customer service
[Nexus 4 General] amdhunter:
Yeah, I kept trying and finally changing to the right Zone worked. Their customer service is fast, but he couldn't help me with the plan. Hopefully I'll never need them again.

Took about 10 minutes before data started working. Gonna benchmark later. Still customizing my phone.
[Nexus 4 General] acegolfer:
I am getting this plan. My main phone number is GV, which forwards to Google chat and Tmo #.

When I'm on wifi, I want to receive calls via grooveip/talkatone. When I'm on cell network, I want to use the native phone. Is it possible to set up such that only one method rings depending on connectivity?
[Nexus 4 General] tpboi:
my friends are reporting really poor talking quality with vonage over wifi. anyone else experiencing poor call quality?
[Nexus 4 General] GorillaPimp:
When you're near wifi you can turn on GrooveIP and Airplane Mode then turn on wifi. The cell radio will not be operational and the Airplane Mode icon will be visible. When you want to use the cell network just turn off Airplane Mode.

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SIP calls are another possibility but since I will have unlimited data (5gb) with the $30 plan I'll just use GrooveIP since the quality is usually better.
[Nexus 4 General] armandosal:
What do you guys mean by forward to gchat? How do you do that?
[Nexus 4 General] powerdoesntrun:
I just got my Nexus 4 yesterday and I signed up for my plan and tried to activate online. My number wouldn't port, so I waited until today, and no dice. So I called T-Mobile and they said the problem was that I had a dash in my Verizon account number :rolleyes:

So, now I have my voice and text working on this plan, but I can't get the data to work. I have coverage, but I get no 4G, nor data over 2G. Phone says

No Internet Connection. I checked the APN settings and they seem to be right. Any advice?
[Nexus 4 General] dwd3885:
i've gotten a few complaints where the other person on the call say that my voice cuts out when she's about to talk. Is there a remedy for this?
[Nexus 4 General] kenjiwing:
forgive me if this has already been answered.

I have the $30 100 minute plan an I am loving it. One problem I have is my gf likes to call and sometimes talk a lot (shes literally the only person I talk to on the phone).

Is there anyway for me to talk to her and not burn up my minutes? Like wifi calling/google voice.. can someone tell me what the best thing to do is? I dont care if she has to call a different number she only cares that she can talk to me and I only care that she doesnt eat my minutes up.
[Nexus 4 General] secretasianman:
Oh my God... Did you not read the few pages worth of Google Voice, GrooVeIP, and Vonage discussion?!?!
[Nexus 4 General] kenjiwing:
Jason can you give some more details on how to get the incoming calls part working? The dialing out sounds simple but id love to give a friend a # to call and not have to worry about losing minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] secretasianman:
You log into Google Voice from your PC browser and include Google Chat as one of the "numbers" to forward calls to (I disabled call forwarding to my cell phone number).

If GrooVeIP is running and logged into your Google Voice account, incoming calls to your Google Voice number will ring GrooVeIP on your phone.

The free version only allows calls over WiFi while the paid version ($5) allows calls over the cellular network. It also has integration with the native Android dialer
[Nexus 4 General] milkisgood123:
Yes there is! Download vonage app from google store. You can make calls using your own phone number to any US/CA number including cell phones. You have up to 3000 free minutes per month :)

I can also confirm it uses internet connection and It does NOT waste minutes. I tried it myself.

HERE'S THE CATCH: You can only SAVE minutes if YOU call through vonage. But if you answer their call it will waste minutes. So let them call, dont pick up, and call back with vonage. This way you will save minutes but still use your tmobile number as the outgoing caller ID.
[Nexus 4 General] chexuma:
Bought the plan yesterday -- I've had good success using Groove IP, and the quality seems decent over the HSPA+ connection I'm getting. However, it seems that AutoAP doesn't work on 4.2. Other apps that enable airplane mode while leaving wifi on don't work either, and it looks like 4.2 makes it utterly impossible to turn on wifi while using airplane mode. Not sure if it will be possible without a custom ROM, but there are some talented app developers out there; maybe they'll find a way.

Supposedly, Talkatone works better over slow connections, but the call quality is mediocre. I like SipDroid, but it misses a number of calls for reasons I cannot figure out.

Still, it's awesome to cut my phone to a third of what it was!
[Nexus 4 General] strung:
VoIP has always sucked and will continue to suck for the foreseeable future. Garbled sound, audio drop outs, call setup failure, missed calls, gain problems, echo cancellation problems, and latency. There is a reason voice != data, because a dedicated voice circuit does not suffer from all the problems VoIP does over the Internet. Anyone who says voice and text are just a type of data is living in a fantasy land. You'd be better off getting the $50 plan than monkeying around with a bunch of VoIP apps that won't work very well.
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
I just tested out Vonage on my new nexus 4 and it works great. I got one question though. Does it still not use minutes if you are using the Vonage app over tmobiles network and not WiFi?
[Nexus 4 General] milkisgood123:
VOIP works great if you have a high speed internet connection to back it up like wifi at home.

So if you use your Nexus 4 to make calls at home you can save a ton of minutes simply by using grooveIP or vonage. vonage is great. Only calls out through vonage dont eat your minutes, incoming non-vonage calls eats your minutes.

For us $30 t-mobile guys that is perfect.

It does NOT use your minutes if you use vonage on wifi or on tmobile network. But it does waste data. if you have 5g of data though, it won't effect you too much. 5g is alot haha.
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
Now that I finally have my phone.... what is the best course of action to get this plan activated?

Go to the TMobile store?

Go to Walmart?

Should someone there activate it for me?

Should I just pick up a SIM and try to activate myself?
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
Quick question. I'm a gold member pay as you go right now on T-Mobile with about $150 in my balance. I know if I wanted to switch to this plan I would need to make a new account but would there be any way to have that credit from my old account transfer to the new one with this plan? Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
OK, I've been using Sipdroid for the past few days, and just today I was testing again, and found something else. The voice, especially with Speex, is distorted. I don't know if this is a hardware thing, if the N4 has the mic gain too high, but I've found a couple other comments on this particular problem with Sipdroid, requesting for mic gain to be set even lower than the current lowest.

Another problem which is more general with the pbxes.org accounts being used with GV is that the limit before your SIP client stops ringing is 15 seconds. Also, compared with Groove IP or Talkatone (no compression), the SIP client takes a few seconds more to ring. Groove IP and Talkatone (no comp.) ring immediately, followed by the forwarded call to your cell, if you've set it up like that. Groove IP is completely unreliable on a connection that is not guaranteed to be strong. It's understandable, since they don't do recompression and don't use their own servers, but also they also don't charge a subscription.

So anyway, I tried Talkatone again, and apparently the "standard compression" is Speex. This routes the call through Talkatone's servers, so there's a bit of a delay for the initial ring, but it's still better than with pbxes.org. The call quality and delay is very similar to using Sipdroid with Speex, without the limitations of the pbxes.org account (15 sec ring especially), and Sipdroid in particular (gain can be set much lower so it doesn't distort). Downsides of Talkatone are relatively expensive payment to get rid of ads ($10). There is also the premium subscription ($2/mo or $20/yr), but for most that's not needed. They offer a "high quality" codec, but I don't know which is. Oh, and the hardware proximity sensor, which is supposed to completely turn off the screen as in regular calls, is not working. "Software" mode only kind of greys out the screen and locks it.

With CSipSimple, I could never get Speex to work on incoming calls, anyone has (outgoing audio didn't work, incoming was OK)?
[Nexus 4 General] DreamScar:
I'm afraid not. When you open the new account your old one is closed and you lose whatever balance you had.