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[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
The distortion is a problem with the Nexus 4 in general (Android doesn't let apps control gain, and this phone's too high), though Talkatone's compression can exacerbate it. If you're on good WiFi you can change the option to uncompressed and it might be a bit better. See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2046613

Even if you've turned off echo cancellation in either of these apps, you can control or even eliminate echo by lowering the volume of the earpiece, the gain of the mic (which is not really true gain so it doesn't affect the distortion, but does the volume of the outgoing voice) or both. I don't have a problem with Groove IP with echo with the default mic gain (-8) and only lowering the call volume a bit. Speakerphone calls don't work well at all though.

About the ringing when answering, GV requires that you press either 1 or 2 before answering. These apps press the "1" for you automatically when answering, maybe it's not being picked up. Try pressing 1 yourself and see if you can answer then. I see there's an option that says "Listen in (answer call) delay" try setting a longer time there if it keeps failing.
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
No VOIP solution works "perfectly". They all are worse than normal voice calls. It's just a matter of how much you and the people you call are willing to deal with.
[Nexus 4 General] Loggerhead87:
Exactly why I'm thinking about switching to Straight Talk.
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
I surveyed some of the people I call on a scale of 1-10 and I found the results below. Remember, even though the call sounds awesome for you, doesn't mean the person you are calling hears the same.

GrooveIP: 1

SIP: 2-3

Vonage: 4

Skype: 5

T-Mobile: 7
[Nexus 4 General] skyrocket727:
i modified my sim card at mobile phone repair store for 1 buck to fit it in Nexus 4. This $30 tmobile's plan is great but i wish it had like maybe 200-250 minutes. Why won't they make it $35?
[Nexus 4 General] Jusnice:
Thanks for the advice I will def try those settings. And while I was checking that link out I voted on this issue. Hope it helps. As for the answering part I will check it out when I get some spare time
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
I beg to differ. Maybe you're just a special snowflake.
[Nexus 4 General] pierangelo:
where I live we don't have 3g or 4g on tmobile : /
[Nexus 4 General] NOSintake:
I've been thinking the same thing. I could totally get away with 250 minutes a month. Hopefully it's something they've at least thought about
[Nexus 4 General] Jusnice:
I think T-Mobile raising the minutes would be to good to b true. And 35 bucks gets u 150 minutes which to me is still a good deal. The way I look at it, as long as I'm below my original $60 plan and can keep it to as close as $30 as possible I'M WINNING!

cutting my phone bill down to jus about half is amazing.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I think they go out of their way to not offer that plan. The other $30 plan is completely reversed, 1500 minutes, but an unusable amount of data (30MB) which I don't even think is high-speed. Basically only for texting apps. A well balanced plan would lure a lot of people who pay a lot more, but don't wanna bother with workarounds for the limitations of the $30 plans.

I would for example take a 300 min plan with 2GB of 4G and no SMS for $30.
[Nexus 4 General] skyrocket727:
200 minutes with 3gb of 4g and unlimited texting would fit perfectly my needs for $30.

100 minutes is just not enough. I mean my service is available till march 20 and i already spend 78 minutes... 22 minutes to spare till March 20th :D.

Feels like 2003 alll over again when i had 250 minus and no messages for..... ohh boy $40 or something.. Right now we can at least use messaging, email and third party apps. But those don't really work for banks or some other services where youbhave to wait.
[Nexus 4 General] maigre:
I'd take one of those hybrid plans that don't exist, too. I don't need as much data as we get with this plan, but would love to have more minutes. The 300 min/2GB non-plan would work great for me.

I think these flawed $30 plans are a way for T-Mobile to try and attract people into their system to compete with and try to overtake Sprint. Then, once we're in, they probably hope we get frustrated just enough to switch to the $60 plan or one of the value plans with a contract. Just a guess. But they're not going to give us a cheap, ideal plan.

I'd be curious to know why they don't let the stores sell this plan. They sell the other $30 plan. (Too bad T-Mobile won't let you buy extra data on that plan like we can buy minutes on this one.) I realize that some here have gone in, gotten SIM cards and activation, but that's rare.

A friend who lives in a pocket with no T-Mobile data coverage and who does a lot of driving in and out of coverage of any sort in the greater region got tired of all the T-Mobile down time and switched to VZN. He says he'd forgotten how useful cell phones can be after being with T-Mobile for awhile. Now, he has coverage almost everywhere, even in a lot of non-urban areas. But he pays for the privilege by having a contract and all the extra money spent every month. Tradeoffs.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
If you leave an extra $10 in your account, that will buy you 100 extra minutes(10 cents/min). So You will have 200 min, unl text and data for $40/mo. Still a great deal. And if you don't use the $10, it will be in there till the next month you go over 100 min.
[Nexus 4 General] DavidKim327:
Has anyone every considered the pay by the day plan? I'm so curious why no one has tried it. I personally haven't tried it either cause I thought there were issues with it. It's unlimited talk/text but 200/mb day 4g speeds. Costs 3/day so... 30/mo basically... Anyone have experience with it? Considering switching over next month if people have good experience with it.
[Nexus 4 General] bodom_hc:
Hi all. I'm currently on straight talk and thinking of possibly switching over to this

Few questions, how reliable is phone calls using apps in areas where you get edge and how much data is used for about an hour on the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] skyrocket727:
ohh yeah... :) i just went to tmobile prepaid refill site and it says minimum $10 before that it was $30 so it wasn't really possible to add anything below $30 now there's an option for $10/ :laugh:

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[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
nice math, david kim :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
You can get $10 refills at callingmart.com and I think walmart. Callingmart doesn't discount anymore, but you still just pay face value, no tax.

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David Kim, $3 X 30 days = $90/month. But don't feel bad, everybody has a brain freeze once in a while:silly:
[Nexus 4 General] ritchea:
There's a lot of flexibility with T-Mobile's new GoSmart Mobile. At the moment, none of the plans beat what our one Straight Talk/T-Mobile sim offers. Our other phones (in the rural area) have to use ST/AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] skyrocket727:
I think those are 2g(edge) and 3g speeds. Tmobile offers 4g which hspa+ i believe
[Nexus 4 General] DavidKim327:
LOLOLOL Yes. Thank you... :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] vickpick:
Question...

I have $100 in my account and my current month ends tonight. Will it automatically deduce 30 from the 100 for the next month or do I have to do something?
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
It should do it automatically. My first renew was a day late and I had no service. When I had time to call, it had fixed itself. Never had a problem since. You will get texts that it renewed and your new date.
[Nexus 4 General] vickpick:
cool, thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] mongonexus:
there is a setup in mytmobile Auto-Pay settings:

to automagically deduct the monies from wherever you like,, but you have to trigger and set it up with the funds to be good to go,, hope this helps,,steve
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
I never did this and it always was deducted from my account where I added refil pins from callingmart automatically. It also prompts you with a text to make sure you have enough in your account because it is almost time to renew.
[Nexus 4 General] Deegan87:
I made a petition about getting GV isssues to work. I think most of them are related to call forwarding. Maybe if enough people sign it, T-Mobile will listen.

https://www.change.org/petitions/t-mobile-allow-conditional-call-forwarding-for-prepaid-accounts
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
So someone just PM'ed me about Solavei. Just putting it out there that I'm not gonna answer, nothing against the poster, but I have an extremely low opinion (to say the least) of multi-level marketing, one of the reasons being that it encourages people (even friends) to spam each other. By far not the worst reason, but one of them.

I have read a bit on Solavei, and like all MLM, its model seems (maybe is, judging from pretty much all other past MLM products) unsustainable in the long run for everybody but the top tiers. Also, there seem to be some websites specially set up to show up when you search for the phrase "solavei scam", which seem to take a skeptical view of it, but end up giving it heavenly praises, suspiciously.
[Nexus 4 General] maigre:
I've gotten such a PM, too. I'm not interested, either, for all the same reasons.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr Ian B:
Got it too from someone at xda. Looks like he is looking to bring people under his name to get money from Solavei. I am not interested in their service.

Ian B
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I do believe he thinks it's everyone's gain who signs up. But with MLM's in general the math simply collapses.

I also did another "solavei scam" search and those shady "review" sites have multiplied, and include youtube videos. Most of those have those scammy "learn more" links (and even some are from those "I made $$$ in XX days" people), but I think Solavei might not be directly related to them, but they just naturally crop up from marketers who resell the service, as the MLM ecosystem is prone to encourage.
[Nexus 4 General] 95m3ltw:
My experience with the $30 plan

Hi,

Just thought I would throw out a review of the Tmobile $30 100min/5GB plan after using it for the last 28 days with a Nexus 4 here in the Atlanta area.

Spent a lot of time reading about the various plan options vs keeping my old Tmobile $79 plan for unlimited everything. Installed the free G/ip app and spent a few hours playing with it at home, worked great and phone calls had a very clear/nice sound to them. Based on that test, decided to get the $30 tmobile plan and port my number to GV thus cutting my ties to the traditional plan I had with Tmobile. Bought the Grooveip app to do data calls on cellular data, which was the end of the love affair sad to say.

I systematically made changes to the settings, noting the differences and keeping a log in hopes of finding a setup that would work. No luck. Call quality has been totally random, even at home on our highspeed connection, for a few hours it will work great then callers cant hear me clearly. It is also very frustrating since I can hear every caller very clearly so one can't tell when the call quality is good or bad, until the other end keeps asking you to repeat what you are saying. Did further testing by switching phones with my wife and calling each other. She could hear me perfectly while using the N4, I on the other hand found it frustrating listening to her going in and out, echo, weak voice and then periods of perfect sound quality. Since I work from home at times and need my office phone forwarded to the N4, the poor call quality is a deal breaker. I spent 3+ weeks trying to make it work with testing nearly every setting etc and it is just not consistent.

Today, went to wally world and bought the ST sim card kit (2 ATT and 1 Tmobile sim), if it works as advertised then I am happy.
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
I'm surprised that no one mentioned another solution. I went all in with Google voice. But when someone calls my cell at home, I just use my magic jack phone. Excellent call quality.
[Nexus 4 General] andy o:
I think the Obi boxes have been mentioned too.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
I had the same experience with GrooVe IP. Switched to Skype. Get unlimited calling and a Skype number. On Skype you can make your GV number appear as Caller Id when you make calls. In GV, you can forward your calls to the Skype number. If you go with monthly plan it cost you around 7 bucks per month. Yearly plan will cost you about 5 bucks per month. Give it a try and see if it is for you or not. Good luck.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
My math says that's $90/30 days, $30/10 days? Might as well go solavei or $70 tmo.
[Nexus 4 General] jeaniturrizaga:
I used Skype and call quality is poor at times. People complained not hearing me clear, echo and cutting off. So Skype is not a good solution either. Since I don't want to be throttle down or get my data turned off completely like I hear complaints about straight talk. I belive I'll be just adding extra $10 toy T-Mobile plan for more mins, since I dont talk so much anyway. another option I will consider is solavei. 4gb of data plus unlimited talk and text its not a bad deal for $50 plus tax and fees ($56 I believe). I will stick with T-Mobile for now and test the idea of adding more minutes if need it.
[Nexus 4 General] sooner82:
Something odd happened to me yesterday. My data used count reset to 0 even though my month does not restart until the 11th. However, my minutes used count did not reset. Not sure what to make of it. I'll wait and see if the data resets on the 11th as well. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
[Nexus 4 General] jeaniturrizaga:
I need some help. My setup is as fallows. I ported my number to Google. And have a new phone number with T-Mobile. I have my calls forward to my phone from Google. But when i call someone from my phone it shows my T-Mobile number. How can i do to get it to show my Google number. I'm not using any VoIP service. Thanks..
[Nexus 4 General] sooner82:
In google voice under settings, select 'Use Google Voice to make all calls' under the 'Making Calls' option
[Nexus 4 General] rdelfin:
Deactivating voice mail feature at T-Mobile's end.

I've been using this $30/5GB plan with T-Mobile along with Google Voice.

Just so you know (and my apologies if this has been mentioned before in this thread), in my experience, it is better to let Google handle the voicemail function exclusively without any participation by T-Mobile's voicemail system; with this I mean that as a t-mobile customer,

you do have the option

to call them and request to have your T-Mobile voicemail feature be turned off, which guarantees that Google Voice will take charge of all the voice messaging without any T-Mobile interfering, which leads to have a much less cumbersome voicemail experience.

This of course, provided that you have your setup so your Google Voice number is the ONLY number you have made available for all your phone needs (in other words, nobody knows/calls your real T-mobile's phone number).

Of course, in google voice you need to configure in the settings to have google voice handle all calls.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
In case anyone has the new cars with Ford Sync or whatever brand- when you link your phone by bluetooth to the car service- I can't have my phone dial with my GV cause the system does not recognize the number, and Sync does not work with GV numbers.

If you go into your screens shortcuts, scroll all the way to the bottom and select toggle googleVoice. It will put an icon on your screen where you can toggle between use gv for every call, use only for international ones, ask every time, do not use GV to make any calls.

This makes it easy to change your options for GV.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
2013 Fusion SE w/ Ecoboost :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Karl_in_Chicago:
Don't know about Ford but the Bluetooth sync to every phone I've had including Nexus 4 in my Acura RL 2005 has always shown my GV #.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
That's great! When my phone is set to dial with GV, the Sync systems acts like I don't have a subscription. I called Ford to find out why. At that point I had ported my number that was set to sync to GV and had lost my Sync and directions!!!:eek:

My number was now a GV #, not ATT, Not T-mo. Ford told me that their system has problems with GV numbers.

So I just toggle to dial out with my carrier number. It doesn't affect incoming calls, just outgoing.

Anyone using the Ford sync system with GV?? My software is 3 years old.
[Nexus 4 General] Jusnice:
Not sure about edge network. I get "4G" just about every where in the Boston area, lucky me. Using talkatone I believe it uses about 1.5mb per minute. So a half hour would be about 45mb.
[Nexus 4 General] iowabeakster:
Data Roaming: FYI Reference

A long time back, somebody was arguing with me that Monthly 4g plans do not have any data roaming capabilities. I said they did. But I wasn't interested in engaging in some internet argument about it.

I was just out riding my motorcycle today, so this topic was going through my mind. I came back and searched "data roaming on monthly 4g plans". And I see numerous times people have claimed that you can NOT use data roaming with this plan (in this thread, and many other places on the web), even though I was doing it a few hours ago.

Here is the real deal: With the $30 montly 4g plan, you get 100MB of domestic data roaming per month.

To prove it I just live chatted with T-Mobile rep online, who verified that you indeed get data roaming (not international of course).

Attached is a .png (in a tarball to overcome size limits of .pngs on xda) of the conversation with T-Mobile, and the .pdf that she emailed to me.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
All I know is in Montana the $30 plan turns your phone into a paperweight. Zero signal.
[Nexus 4 General] sashusmom:
Thanks Iowa. Never knew that. Just thought voice roamed.
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Thanks. Good to know. 100 MB is enough for the occasional roaming.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
Let me help you with a map that shows where the $30 plan may or may not be a good idea...http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/Map.aspx
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Oh I fully knew the coverage was terrible in Montana. I only go there a few times per year and thankfully have a work issued Verizon phone which works fine. I just thought it was funny that there is absolutely zero reception there. In Helena for sure and I'd assume elsewhere.

I guess if I dialed 911 an ATT signal would suddenly appear. Hey for $30 month I'm not complaining.
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
I agree that the coverage looks really bad, i'm glad you have a plan-b. I live in mpls and the coverage here is pretty good. Gotta love the $30 plan where it works!
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
Hey guys I just got this plan and have a quick question. Will using Google Voice to call out over T-Mobile's network count towards my 100 minutes? I know calls that come in count. I have heard the Vonage app is free and works but I would rather just use my GV if I can. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] duclet:
It will count since it is still just using the phone line. You can just type in your GV number for Vonage so that it shows the GV number. Or, you can use other apps like GrooveIP and the like to do it. I actually just found another one Mo+ GV Phone which so far for me has been pretty good to handle both incoming and outgoing GV calls.
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
Hey guys,

I've been on this plan for about a month now.

Question - shortly after I started using the plan, T-Mobile blocked me from using a desktop user agent with UC Browser tablet edition (UI is great on a larger screen and the browsing is sufficient), got redirected to the tethering upsell page. I've gotten over it, as I've realized that Dolphin 8.5.1 is a better, lighter weight all around browser anyways, even if the UI is lacking.

But particularly at the time, I was out to find a workaround. As an experiment, I switched my APN to the Straight Talk wap.tracfone.com APN (details on their website). I wasn't sure it would work but I figured what was the harm. Anyways, this did not work to unblock T-Mobile's tethering upsell, but I found that data speeds in my apartment jumped from about 2.5 MB/s to just under 5 MB/s. Of course, elsewhere in town, I still got just under 5 MB/s instead of about 6 MB/s with T-Mobile's APN.

My device is not 4G capable, doesn't go over 7.2 MB/s - I think I was getting a throttled 4G speed with the Straight Talk APN. So for most folk, T-Mobile's APN probably still results in faster average speeds. For me, in most places, my guess is I would get faster speeds with the Straight Talk APN. Is there a downside to sticking with the Straight Talk APN?

I switched back to default as I am more than happy with 2 MB/s after being on Sprint in Phoenix since the advent of mobile data, and I didn't want to risk anything.

ETA - yeah I'm not on the Nexus 4, but this seems to be the definitive T-MO $30 plan thread.
[Nexus 4 General] revamper:
2 MB/s is 16 Mbps. You're confusing bits with bytes.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] thref23:
I am amazed that after all these years I never realized the difference between megabits and megabytes. I always just assumed that internet speeds were measured by some kind of peak transfer rate that wasn't indicative of usual download speeds. Wow.
[Nexus 4 General] Semantics:
I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked. This isn't the T-Mobile section of XDA. This is the general forum but if you are not speaking about the N4, then it gets locked down. This plan can be used by any T-Mobile customers, let's keep this forum 100% nexus talk, no exception. /rolleyes /sarcasm off.
[Nexus 4 General] sdfghi:
Has anyone else had their internet only on 3G and not going to 4G now? I used to get it when I checked ( I think it was before christmas) when I last checked and the speeds were around 14mbps down on full signal strength. Now, I get something like 5mbps. Its not really that big a deal, just wondering if anyone knows whats going on.. Im in midtown Atlanta btw.
[Nexus 4 General] helstonrampersad:
Did you use your 5 gigs already cause that's what happened to me when I went over

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[Nexus 4 General] selfinflicted1:
Wow. In Nashville when I get throttled its 2g speeds. Phone becomes damn near unusable. At my house I only get a 1.8 Mbps and on the other side of town I get 7-9 Mbps.
[Nexus 4 General] sdfghi:
No I don't think that's the case. My usage is less than 1 gb. I was wondering if somehow the rom(PA) or kernel(Franco) could be the reason for this..
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Contract customers get priority over prepaid, as far as tower access/speeds. At least it's not as bad as mvno ;)
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
Prepaid account here as well, connected to LTE in NYC, video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQI2tyNgXdU
[Nexus 4 General] baiju2012:
Please provide details. How I'd it done? Settings? Phone hardware, etc?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
Okay lte thread all ready http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34497370
[Nexus 4 General] rpstrongbad:
I have a question, what happens if you go over the 100 minutes?? do they bump you up to the next plan or can you pay by the minute??
[Nexus 4 General] JsChiSurf:
$0.10 / minute for anything over your allotted 100 minutes, and you must have "additional funds" already in place in your account to cover.

So, even if you double up to 200 minutes, it's still only an extra $10 for the month.
[Nexus 4 General] rpstrongbad:
awesome... the exact answer I wanted !! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Postal Psycho:
I got 2 buddies on contract I get better signal than them. But it could be because they're using at&t phones on tmobile network. <shrugs>