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[Nexus 4 General] talhak91:
Yep, I'm paying for both separately. I'll be using Skype to make outgoing calls pretty much all the time, wifi and hspa+. I was on Virgin Mobile and I never went over 250 minutes, so I think it's going to work out fine.

Well, no, if you sign out you can't receive calls through Skype, but I'm certain I can manage my calls so that I just use 100 incoming if I can have unlimited outgoing. If you were to stay signed in, I'm not sure how that would work. Perhaps then you'd have to give people a unique Skype number? With my setup, people won't be able to tell that I'm doing anything differently, which is the big hassle with a lot of the other VOIP services that don't have caller ID. 100 incoming minutes works for me.

But like I said in the beginning, free is free, so Vonage might work better for others, but I use Skype a lot as it is, and I'm okay with paying $3 (less if you pay for 3 months or the year up front) for something long term and the quality is really good. Vonage won't be free forever and I'd rather not deal with switching then because no one really knows what their rates will be. But it's all up to you guys! Just adding another option for everyone.
[Nexus 4 General] waxlabo:
does anyone use talkatone?
[Nexus 4 General] smith10:
This is my set up as well. Setting everything up was very easy.
[Nexus 4 General] ebayking90:
I have been reading all of the posts in this thread for the past couple of pages and I don't think I have found any one that has tried what I would like to do when I get my Nexus 4. I am currently with Verizon and I want to port my number over to T-Mobile to use this $30 prepaid plan. I noticed that when you sign up for Google Voice it asks you if you want to use a current phone number (GV Lite) or get a new number. I would like to keep things as simple as possible and only use my number that I port to T-Mobile. The reason I don't want to port my number to Google Voice is that I don't want to risk losing it, if Google decides to discontinue this service. I feel I am safer have it ported to T-Mobile.

So if I have my new GV Lite account attached with my cell phone number, will that mean that GV will intercept my phone calls and prevent them from hitting T-Mobile's voice network? I want to use the voice network (100 minutes) only for emergency calls.

I would need to install an app like Groove IP to make and receive phone calls? Or do you have a better dialer solution for the phone? Keep in mind that I don't need to access GV on a laptop or computer.

I have been reading up on the Vonage app and I hear it comes with 3000 free minutes a month, does anyone know how long that promotion will last for? I also hear that the call quality is vastly superior to Groove IP, but is there a way to accept incoming calls with the Vonage app without having to have a separate incoming phone number (regular Google Voice)?

If I call T-Mobile and have them disable carrier voicemail, will calls route to GV Voicemail after a certain amount of seconds? How do you access GV Voicemail if I have it attached to my cell phone number?

I know GV has free SMS, since this $30 prepaid plan has unlimited messaging, I would like all my text messages to use T-Mobile's network. Is this possible? Especially since I would be able to receive and send SMS and MMS without issue.

I apologize if any of my questions have been answered before. I appreciate any help you can give me with this.
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
The online portion of T-mobile could have made deals with advertisers that agreed to pay for considerations about advertising and other things that the b/m stores can't provide also the overhead for websites is lower so they can make better deals than b/m stores.
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
I was just chating with a T-mobile rep about getting the 99cent micro sim activation kit and using it with the $10 / 30 minute / 90 day pay as you go plan. I was told that once you got the micro sim you had 90 days in which to actvate it or buy a new one. I said I may not get my phone before the 90 days was up. They replied I could activate the card without inserting it into a phone for any phone and just put it into the proper phone when I got it.

I read somewhere that the IMEI number told the company what kind of sim was used by that phone which is why you have to use a special set of numbers for activation. I don't know if all this is correct or not.

Anyway I ordered the T-mobile micro sim card activation kit for 99 cents ($1.07 with tax) and when it comes I will try and activate it with the 15 9's someone mentioned and if that does not work I'll try the 15 1's and if that doesn't work I'll try the IMEI from an old phone.

Does any one see any problems going this way?
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
You don't have too activate it in 90 days. I have the sim on hand and it says needs to activated by 8/8/2015
[Nexus 4 General] AKfortyseven:
I ordered on the 27th, shipped on the 29th and received on 30th

Even has $3.34 credit on it. I can't complain
[Nexus 4 General] goncalorob:
I ordered my microsim from T-Mobile.com on the 22nd. Didn't get any info until the 27th when they shipped it. It is now the 2nd and still had no card. I ordered the 2 to 4 day shipping.

Pretty crappy if you ask me. I just went to a Walmart picked up a 23 dollar T-Mobile prepaid phone took out the Sim card, returned the phone and now I got the card without waiting for tmo to get off their ass.

I shaved the full sized sim down to the microsim size. Just waiting for the horrid airfire mobile to give my number up. Which they don't do on the weekends apparently. So this has been nothing but a headache.
[Nexus 4 General] oahceasgnikgneas:
It shouldn't matter what phone/IMEI you use to activate the plan. I activated my t-mobile micro sim on my AT&T Galaxy S2 before my Nexus 4 was even shipped and had no problems simply transferring the sim card into the Nexus 4 and having it work immediately.

Edit: You can even log into your My T-mobile account later on and change your phone to the "Google Nexus 4" under the "My Phone" section.
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Federal law would require Google to release your phone number to you if they ever discontinued the service. You have nothing to worry about,
[Nexus 4 General] ebayking90:
Ok, that is good to know. But do you have any further insight into using your own non-ported number on GV? The Vonage route would be really awesome, except I'm not sure how long the 3000 free monthly minutes promotion will last and I need a way to receive incoming calls without having to give out a separate number or not answering when people call me and then calling them back.
[Nexus 4 General] sroach23:
I ordered a micro-sim on the 30th and it came with next day air for a total of $1.06.
[Nexus 4 General] tpboi:
do they still have that $30 bucks plan? i dont see it on their website.
[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
:headbang:

Just because you called over wifi using your phone number doesn't mean it didn't use your minutes!

Someone has to actually make a call over the Vonage app then check how many minutes they used on their plan...

until someone does that, don't say I didn't warn you when you go over on your minutes...

(You can make wifi calls over T-mobile directly, but it will use up your minutes!)

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Walmart T-Mobile Plan

When you activate your SIM Card it's an option on T-Mobile's website, or you can but it directly through Walmart.
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
I'm not sure what's not clear about what I said. I used the vonage app to make 2 calls (actually spoke with the person on the other end), one on wifi and one on 4G. neither incurred any minute reduction or balance reduction. And my tmobile number linked to the $30 plan appeared on the other end's caller ID.

How else can I make a call with the vonage app to make it cost me minutes? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
So there was no minute reduction on your account? and are you positive the account information is updated relatively quickly?
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
I think what is confusing is that it shows my tmobile number on the receiving end's caller ID.

Unlike google voice, Vonage is not calling a number which calls another number, nor calling back. It's a direct call. Similar to how Skype out works when you pay to have a # on Skype. It sends that number as your caller ID when you call from the desktop or mobile app.

I think it just sends the number attached to the app as a caller ID signal. I could've attached any number I wanted as long as that number is a cellphone and I have that phone to retrieve the activation code.

Anyway everyone can test it for themselves, all it will cost is 1 minute, or not

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yes tmobile reflects changes instantaneously on their mobile app and on their website. For all: minutes, data, and balance.

and my test was over an hour ago anyway, plenty of time for it to catch up
[Nexus 4 General] question.com:
I set up this plan on my phone and my girls on Friday the 16th. Her number ported from Verizon in a few hours, mine they said will be done on the 20th (we're on the same account). After multiple calls to T-Mobile, someone finally told me that since I activated my Verizon phone at a indirect dealer, it takes longer (ordered through amazon). I activated my girls at a Verizon store.

It's annoying, but nothing I can do. I activated mine at the Walmart store. Hers I ordered a sim and activated it online. I really hope the Walmart rep didn't **** up the plan selection.
[Nexus 4 General] milkisgood123:
Where do you get the 5% off with no tax??? :)

Anyone use Skype with a paid skype number and unlimited US/CA calling over tombile 4G HSPA+?
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
Callingmart.com, sign up for their newsletter
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
Calling Mart http://www.callingmart.com/

I pay with paypal and get my PIN codes instantly on the order confirmation page.

Sign up for their newsletter, they regularly send 5% off coupons. Currently use gvng125 to get 5% off, expire 12/4. You also collect points which you apply to your future purchases.
[Nexus 4 General] Hindolam:
CallingMart

You can also get details about promotion code over on their facebook page
[Nexus 4 General] milkisgood123:
Woah thanks for the heads up guys!!! Too bad I already bought from walmart... :(

But next time im getting it from them :p
[Nexus 4 General] shadvich:
How's the plan with google voice? To get GV voicemail working, do I just have to cancel t-mobile voicemail? I'm contemplating just porting my GV number to TM but I don't know if that's a good idea in the long run
[Nexus 4 General] Hindolam:
The $30 plan is only for first time activation and available only online. You can port your number though.

You order the

1) SIM Card _ Activation Kit from T-Mobile's prepaid section - this costs $0.99,

2) $30 card online from CallingMart, Walmart and others.

Once you receive these, click on the Activation Link under T-Mobile Prepaid section.

You enter the

a) Activation Number from the kit you ordered (1)

b) SIM Card Number from the kit you ordered (1)

c) Phone's IMEI number

d) Your date of birth

e) Porting number details

And in one of the following pages you will see the option for $30 plan.

You can also see the $30 plan listed if you go to compare Monthly 4G plan at TMobile website.
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
Google voice mail doesn't work with Tmobile prepaid.

When I try to activate my phone to use Google Voice for voice mail service online, I get the following message:

"Your carrier: T-Mobile Change carrier

Note: This feature does not work with T-Mobile prepaid phone plans."
[Nexus 4 General] jimbob695:
What about outbound calling? Does it show as your Gvoice number? I'm not too worried on minutes or voicemail, I just don't want the hassle of changing to a new number. Everyone reaches me on my Voice number currently.
[Nexus 4 General] trent25:
Yes it shows my GV number for outbound calls.

And incoming calls work as well.

I use GV exclusively for international calls, and has never failed to capture and direct these calls via GV.

The only thing that doesn't work is voice mail box, because T-mobile doesn't seem to allow redirection of those to GV.
[Nexus 4 General] Examiner19:
Call T-Mobile and have them turn off your voicemail. Then, when a call to your GV # isn't answered or is rejected, it will go to your GV voicemail.
[Nexus 4 General] jkang29:
calling other tmobile users

When using this plan, if you call other tmobile numbers, does it use up minitues?
[Nexus 4 General] lamlux:
Yes it does use minutes, 100 minutes, that's it. I've been on it for awhile now, since GS2.
[Nexus 4 General] jasonwc:
Yes, with the prepaid plans, there are no free nights & weekends or free calls to other T-Mobile users. However, I've been using GrooveIP (paid version that integrates with the stock dialer) and I find my call quality is superior to what I got on Verizon. I love it as I do most of my calls at home anyway. You can get incoming calls for free by forwarding calls to Google Chat in your Google Voice settings.

If you need more minutes, you can try the Straight Talk T-Mobile plan. It's unclear what the data cap is, but I've seen several people say they use over 5 GB/month. YMMV. In any case, that'll give unlimited minutes. The T-Mobile prepaid plans with unlimited calling aren't price competitive.
[Nexus 4 General] rehughe:
I'm surprised more people aren't using the Vonage app.

It has worked flawlessly for me over WiFi and over HSPA and does not use any minutes at all. It has also been 100% free.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
This is also my plan, a lot of people seem keen on using Google Voice with SIPdroid (or something?). I really ignored those posts because I knew Vonage is the perfect solution
[Nexus 4 General] ebayking90:
What do you guys use for incoming calls? Vonage seems like a really great idea, but I need a good and practical solution to receive calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
Alright so I'm using Google Voice and GrooVe with the $30 plan but the thing is, I have T-Mobile SMS and MMS. Google Voice as of right now does not support MMS and I was just wondering if there are any apps that would allow me to combine my T-Mobile inbox along with my SMS from Google. I don't want to have to explain to co-workers that I need to have "one for calling and one for texting" because I am always getting pictures and all that since I am the IT head for a company.

Basically I'm looking for an app that combines my carrier's SMS/MMS and my Google Voice SMS inboxes which will also allow me to select what number I send the text message from and allows me to send attachments. Anyone have any ideas?
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Reject call, call them back. Not a pretty solution but hey - it works
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
If you're going to be on this plan, be prepared to make sacrifices meaning not being able to answer every single call unless you're on a good HSPA+ connection or WiFi. You can make and receive calls through 3G but don't expect to have a long drawn out conversation like you would on the actual T-Mobile voice network. Be prepared to explain to people around you that this is saving a ton of money and that sometimes you will be unavailable and in EXTREMELY URGENT circumstances, that they call your T-Mobile number rather than your Vonage/Google Voice number. You don't want to have people taking your 100 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
Haha mate I understand ;), for me I don't call too much so I'm definitely willing to sacrifice some things. But I hate having a second number (too much confusion), so Vonage actually spoofs the person who you are calling with YOUR number (neat huh?), and when I need to call out I will use Vonage and when I get an incoming call I will just yak away the 100 mins (since I really don't need that much anyways). I never have long conversations on the phone unless I'm nice and comfortable at home so I will always be on Wifi in those situations.

Thanks for all the heads up though, I appreciate it
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
God damn.

Not to single you or anyone else out, but how many minutes are you people using? If you're going to be talking to someone for several hours, isn't it easier to go talk to them in person or set up a conference?!

I use 200, maybe 250 minutes in the worst of months. And since VoIP is a pain in the ass, I just throw that extra $10-15 on to my T-mobile account. If you're a traveling salesman or something, I'll take it - but if you're talking to your relatives for 6 hours a day or something you really should just go visit them.

If you're relying on this for business and don't have a desk phone, go with a more expensive plan. Don't put your job on the line to save $15 a month. You'd think this would be common sense.
[Nexus 4 General] muyoso:
Seriously? That would get annoying as hell for me within 2 calls. Setting up Sipdroid and Tasker takes like 30 minutes max and then you have a perfectly seamless phone experience with 2000 wifi minutes and 100 cell minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] ebayking90:
I can't speak for the other people that have posted here, but I don't plan on using my Nexus 4 for business purposes. But, I don't see the problem with trying to cut down on the outrageous amount of money these cell phone providers are charging people to have smartphones these days. If there is a way for people to make and receive free VOIP calls, I will do everything in my power to take advantage of it and save myself my hard earned money.

I apologize if that makes me sound cheap to you. But, I am definitely not the only person to want to do this, nor will I be the last. Just because you only use a small amount of minutes, doesn't mean that everyone can get by on that. Every person has a different set of circumstances. So please try to be a bit less condescending and more understanding on this forum. The point of us being here is to educate and inform each other. Not put each other down.

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Sipdroid, Groove IP and other apps like them all use Google Voice right? If it is at all possible, I want to setup a free or inexpensive calling solution to accept incoming calls without having to use a 2nd number provided by Google Voice. From my research Vonage has extremely good call quality for outgoing calls and you can use your existing cell phone number. I would love to combo Vonage with another app that can accept incoming calls without having to use a different number. The reject the call and then call them back solution, unfortunately will not work for me.
[Nexus 4 General] gagdude:
I wouldn't mind that, but the fact that I need a second number annoys the hell out of me (and all my non techy friends will be confused as **** too).

(For me, a perfectly seamless phone experience is a single number, it is the number on the carrier, and I would be able to call out and receive using that number. Right now Vonage is completely 3rd party and it would be impossible for them to allow call receiving, but since I don't talk a lot, I'm going to answer all calls, thus using up my cellular minutes, and when I call out use Vonage)

To each his own, but this is a perfect solution for me and only $30/month
[Nexus 4 General] talhak91:
I wish someone would explain this out in simple terms and provide a walkthrough of some sort because I've been reading this thread since the beginning and it was made to seem so very complicated, with voice algorithms and the like. But yes, that certainly does sound appealing if I can just have one single phone number everywhere.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
any way to disable CID in Google Voice

I'm in the midst of transitioning from my Sprint NS4G to the Nexus 4 with a new T-Mobile 30 plan.

It seems like the easiest way to continue use of Google Voice for my visual voicemail is to port my number to GV and forward to whatever my new number will be on TMobile. However, I am used to permanently blocking my outgoing caller ID, and the info I got from the 'Net is that Google Voice does not allow that.

So, does anyone has a work-around to prevent my outgoing calls from displaying my GV number? (There is a call-by-call solution, but I am looking for a permanent one.)

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] ebayking90:
Ok, I finally was able to figure out how to do this. Here is the simplest way I thought of doing this.

1. Setup a Google Voice account and request a new number. You need to provide GV with a valid cell phone number, so give them your current one. Google Voice will ask you if you want to setup GV Voicemail on your phone, ignore this step. In the settings for your mobile number go to advanced settings and select Ring my other phones... (If you don't do this step, all calls to your cell phone number will go straight to GV Voicemail). In call settings turn off call screening (this is optional, but this make this setup much more like calling a normal phone).

2. Install the Vonage app, you will use this for all outgoing calls and it will display your cell phone after you have put it into the app.

3. Install SIPDroid, Groove IP, Talkatone or any other VOIP that uses Google Voice for incoming calls. Link whichever app you install to your GV account.

4. Go into your cell phone settings and forward all your calls to your new GV number.

So now as long as your incoming VOIP app is running, you will be able to receive calls from your original cell phone number airtime free (without using minutes). The beauty of this system is that since this plan offers unlimited messaging, your SMS and MMS will still go over T-Mobile's network. Also, since all calls are forwarded directly to your GV number, you don't need to call T-Mobile and turn off carrier voicemail. I have been able to find a concrete answer on which of these 3 apps have the best call quality, but in terms of GUI I personally like Talkatone the best. I haven't received my Nexus 4 yet, so I was only able to test this on my Nexus 7 tablet.

If for any reason phone calls to your mobile number are still going straight to voicemail, please use this guide provided on this Google Support page: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/voice/VBtR-yU-nJU.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
I thought call forwarding doesn't happen on prepaid Tmobile plans?
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
It doesn't.
[Nexus 4 General] lyricez:
Anyone know where these sim cards are "shipping (as in city/state)" from when you order them from t-mobile.com?
[Nexus 4 General] Valerianus:
I've read somewhere that this plan caps 4G speeds to your first 100 megabytes of usage. After that, it's either unlimited 2G or 3G.
[Nexus 4 General] smith10:
Throttle occurs after 5 gb..

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ScottyNuttz:
I have an Amazon gift card and I already have a SIM kit. Does anyone know how where I can find the appropriate card on Amazon to activate the $30 monthy 4G plan?
[Nexus 4 General] biggiestuff:
does it throttle down to 3g or edge? 3g is still acceptable on t-mobile versus Verizon or Sprint
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
Throttles to edge