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[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstrong:
No. It had been frequently observed with earlier versions of Android and earlier versions of Chrome. Improvements to both in the last couple of months have virtually eliminated this.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
It depends on your definition of virtually eliminated I guess. Running stock I still get the freeze/hang about every 3-5 days depending on use. It is better but not gone.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstrong:
I guess I'm having a better experience than you are. I use my N10 just about every day, sometimes a few hours at a time. I really can't remember the last time it froze or rebooted on its own.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
....and you aren't running stock.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstrong:
That's true
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
100% in your situation. For me the last reboot was 2 weeks ago.

I guess we have now to wait for KLP, with the hope that it will (actually it must) be better than this poor second attempt of JB!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianjd:
Similarly, I had a new N10, downloaded the latest stock ROM and Chrome, and had four days of at least one freeze/reset per day (a few hours use each day) before I gave up. I'll see if this years Nexus tablet does better.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SayWhat10:
I've tried the first 2 serial number series. Anybody know if this 3rd production date is out? Wanna wait until then to RMA again
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
Somewhat on a related note my last hang was when I updated Google+. I got a chuckle out of that for some reason...all hangs on Google's "stuff".

It sounds like Mr.Robinson's AOKP build is doing better. I wonder if some of this is memory leak related so if you are rebooting to tweak your system or rebooting to get otg or stick mount or whatever to work then maybe the hangs do "disappear".

Anyone try daily reboots?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianjd:
My final freeze/reset was just after a wipe, while Play was starting to reinstall previously downloaded apps, so within ten minutes of a clean boot. Probably a stressful time for memory usage as multiple downloads are happening, but ti should really be able to handle this OK.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
Oh yeah. Mine is almost guaranteed to fail if I mess with it while restoring.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
LOL...and like clockwork. 4 days 6 hours in I had to reboot because the screen wouldn't wake. This is the other feature new owners get.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] js417:
I just got my N10 about 8 days ago and I'm getting the same thing, I'm thinking about doing and exchange but I don't think that will solve the problem, I'm running Clean ROM with stock Kernel. My wife just got the Note and she doesn't have this problem.....don't know if I should wait for Google to update or trade it in for the Note :confused::confused:
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
Probably depends on your level of tolerance. Google I/O is May 15th so I don't think 4.2.3 is coming. So a few days to a week after that custom ROMs and OTAs should hit? Can you take 5-6 weeks of it? That is assuming there is a fix. Many users still say their tablets are working fine so why fix anything?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmatty:
Assuming a Google Play purchase, the RMA process will give you a couple weeks with two devices that you can compare.

4.2.1 was what was out when I bought my N10, I waited until 4.2.2 came out to see if it would fix a problem I had, but it didn't, so maybe waiting isn't the best bet....

Good luck!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aMpeX:
my Nexus 10 keeps soft resetting under pretty much every ROM and Kernel combination I have tried.

Examining the logcats these errors before the reset make me curious:

[ 428.410108] SysRq : Emergency Remount R/O
[ 428.415183] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p7): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
[ 428.447357] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p9): re-mounted. Opts: (null)
[ 428.515923] max77686-rtc max77686-rtc: max77686_rtc_disable_wtsr: disable WTSR
[ 428.528210] Emergency Remount complete
[ 428.671348] Disabling non-boot CPUs ...
[ 428.675063] IRQ153 no longer affine to CPU1
[ 428.675811] CPU1: shutdown
[ 428.687878] Restarting system.
[ 428.687953]
[ 428.688020] Restarting Linux version 3.4.39-KTManta-g3f3ea4c (ktoonsez@ktoonsez-VirtualBox) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-1ubuntu1) ) #16 SMP PREEMPT Mon Apr 8 19:54:07 MST 2013
[ 428.688030]

This reminded me of the fact that when I got the Nexus 10 and ran into the dreaded bootloop. Before reflashing the stock image i tried performing a factory reset using CWM, which failed because /userdata could not be mounted.

Is it possible that the file systems mmcblk0p7 and mmcblk0p9 might be corrupted causing the device to crash?

Earlier in the kmsg, i noticerd the following lines:

[ 11.361199] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p8): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[ 11.376313] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: nomblk_io_submit,errors=remount-ro
[ 11.394886] fs_mgr: Running /system/bin/e2fsck on /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/cache
[ 11.421873] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: nomblk_io_submit,errors=panic
[ 11.427010] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p9): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: nomblk_io_submit,errors=remount-ro
[ 11.454700] fs_mgr: Running /system/bin/e2fsck on /dev/block/platform/dw_mmc.0/by-name/userdata
[ 11.466469] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p9): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: nomblk_io_submit,errors=panic
[ 11.469277] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)

which sounds to me like: "Mount /userdata and /cache, if an error occurs, trigger a kernel panic"
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hasi Popasi:
Cause for freeze of my Nexus 10 found

My Nexus 10 freezes/restarts a lot when I'm doing network activity with it (Chrome, GooglePlay, etc.). It's very annoying, sometimes it needs a reset by pressing the power button some seconds, sometime "only" the shell restarts.

Now I know the cause for "my" freezes I experience. It sounds unbelievable but it's an iPad in the same Wifi network ! I've suspected Wifi as cause for the freezes for a long time, now I'm able to reproduce it in an hour. As long as the iPad isn't connected to the Wifi network the freezes won't happen but with the iPad connected to it I can reproduce the freezes within hours, sometimes minutes.

There are other Wifi clients in the network(e.g. my SGS2 with CM10.1 nightly), they won't hurt the Nexus 10, it's only the iPad....

Bad, bad Apple :eek: ...or is it a problem with my Wifi router (AVM FritzBox 7390)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmatty:
Well shucks, if your router actually has the name "FritzBox".... :)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mymusicathome:
My router doesn't like Apple products either. As soon as an iPhone connects to Wi-Fi no other devices can connect till a reboot. So glad I don't own any crapple devices. Cut my friends off from Wi-Fi and everything runs fine :)

Sent from my SGH-I747M
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hasi Popasi:
A Wifi device should never crash because another device behaves unruly or the router sends invalid packages...the fault is clearly in the Nexus 10 firmware, excluding the iPad from the Wifi network is a 100% workaround for this bug. Finally my Nexus 10 is stable, no freezes, no crashes, nothing. It works as it should but I really hope that Google releases a fix soon, the iPad is the tablet of my wife :victory:

FritzBox routers are *very* popular in Germany, you'll get one for free if you subscribe to a DSL or Cable plan.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmatty:
I often get a kick out of these examples of small subtle differences in language... :) "Its on the fritz" is a way of saying something's broken here.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MetaMs:
iPhone?

OhEmGee! I don't have an iPad, but I do have an (employer provided) iPhone. Would that also cause it? I sure wish my boss was not such an apple fan boy, but that isn't going to change. He's a macaholic. :eek:
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hasi Popasi:
You should try it, removing the access of the iPad to the Wifi network in conjunction with disabling the 5 GHz frequency range in the advanced Wifi settings of the N10 fixes the crashes completely for me. This is just great, now the N10 is really a nice and reliable tablet. Love it :highfive:
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
This solution wouldn't fly at work, Starbucks, etc.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leeznon:
I've had my N10 for 2 weeks and mine does this rebooting/freezing about 3 times a day. Very ****ty product. I'm gonna flash a different kernel to see what's up.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hasi Popasi:
It's not really a solution, it's a workaround... but it's works for me until Google comes with the real fix for this nasty bug.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riqjuan:
I've given up hope, they're not coming with a fix. They'll come out with a new device, and call it their fix.

Don't hold your breath.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
How soon does it crash with the iPad?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3DSammy:
I have been testing different custom ROMS trying to get the set of features I want. During those tests I have noticed that they vary significantly in unwanted reboots and power-offs. So definitely give a few different ones a trial until you find the balance between stability and features.

Here is what I have seen over the last month that I have owned a N10. It is only a commentary by one user so your milage may vary.

1) SentinelROM (4.20) /KTManta was the most stable. I could get it to reboot at times when I plugged in an OTG cable with a SD Card attached. You definitely had to unmount the USB storage before unplugging the cable. It lacked an essential feature (support for my Gigabit Etherent adapter) otherwise I would likely still be on this ROM/Kernel.

2) Tasker650/Trinity Ten came in a close second but I moved on to get some additional features. It had less reboot issues with OTG devices but still had some.

3) Buttered AOKP 4.2.2 [+Aroma] has rebooted a few times (more than the others) and turned off once. Of course it seems to be the most stable when pluggin/unplugging OTG connected SD cards;) It also has the best combination of working features that I want.

If I could get all of the following features to work I will stick with a specific custom ROM. A number of the ROMs are supposed to have all these features but so far I cannot get them all working. No doubt due to user error.

A) Gigabit Ethernet adapter support (A must have, except for SentinelROM/KTManta, it works with all other ROMs including Stock)

B) openPDroid (Only worked with Tasker650/Trinity Ten)

C) Ext4 formatted SD card support (Only working with Aroma)

D) Powered USB HDD (NTFS) support (Only worked with SentinelROM/KTManta)

E) Native CIFS network share support (It's suppose to work with all the customROMs I tried)

I number of people claim that they have native CIFS network shares working and I believe them, but so far no luck for me. That issue will eventually get resolved given enough time and effort. By native support I mean using the "mount" command so I can have the network shares mounted any time I have a WiFi lan connection. CIFS is working when an app includes their own drives (e.g. EX File Explorer).

Of note is that I am not a game player which will likely effect your own experinces with any specific ROM.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SayWhat10:
For a tablet to crash because an iPhone is on the network is the craziest thing I've heard if true
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
Its hard to believe. On the current boot I have over 100 hours with 3 iPads, an iPhone 4s, a mini and 2 iPods coming and going.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmatty:
:good:
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hasi Popasi:
Within hours, sometimes minutes when I use network-heavy apps like Chrome etc.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alan sh:
Mine froze for the first time since I bought it 2 months ago. It was showing the clock in screensaver mode and I noticed it hadn't moved in 30 minutes. So, I wasn't doing anything at the time. Power+vol-up to shut it down and it startedagain, no issues.

Alan
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
Yep. I jinxed it.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottws:
My Nexus 10 reboots about once a week now. I'm rooted stock 4.2.2. No Apple devices on the network.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ittus:
To determine bad block, I builded "badblocks" command and then ran it with write test option on TWRP. But no bad block found on system, cache and userdata partitions. :what:

There may be no bad block on flash memory but write error happens. It's strange. Kernel emmc driver bug
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
Like on GS3?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
I currently have close to 300 hours uptime. I had to install Citrix Receiver for work at around 100 hours. It is boring as hell but it is stable. I have basically watched some podcasts, browsed the net, and read some articles on the web version of pocket.

Prior to this test the same test had a sleep death around 3 days in. I am sure it is purely coincidence but I was using a popular 3rd party charging cable on the first test. This time around I've been slow charging it on computer USB. I'm going to go back to the cable and see what happens before I start installing more apps. That's all I got.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
I charged twice with the pogo cable and the tablet rebooted while I was't using it. I think I'll continue to use the pogo and see if the reboots continue. If so I guess I'll retest to see if I can get 400 hours without the pogo charge.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
So I was reading over on the product forum page that the think they have it tracked to a bug in the display that has surfaceflinger consuming all the memory and never releasing it. I did a little testing just watching a bunch of videos and sure enough surfaceflinger memory usage kept climbing until around 550megs when all the apps on the tablet forced closed and wifi also shut down, however no reboot. Now sf is still hovering around 550megs and just about every app I use force closes and must be reloaded every time multi-tasking is used. Looks like a definite bug. I'm not sure why not everyone sees it though? Low usage? Self-reboot before memory consumption? Could it be a hardware defect? IDK. If you guys with perfect tablets that never reboot could check surfaceflinger memory usage after a couple hours of screen time I'd appreciate it.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hoppa:
Bump, I have the same problem, after a few days it looks like I run out of memory.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veliero:
problem playing MP3

Even my nexus rarely reboot, but I have annoying problem playing MP3: suddenly feel strange sound as interference, then stop music and then restart. You may be thinking that softwere problem will be fixed in version 4.3? Can be resolved by installing Cyanogen?

Sorry for may bad english.....
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KasF:
I've got also random freezes->reboots. But this happens once a week. So for the moment, I can live with it :)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowblade330:
what ROM/Kernel are you using? did you undervolt?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veliero:
I don't know what Kernel I'm using: I have the Google Factory Stock Rom, 4.2.2 JDQ39 Build and I'm not undervolt....

I have noticed that I have the problem only when the screen is off and I'm playing an MP3 file.....

I hear noise and then N10 crash or reboot...

I do not have the problem if the screen is off when listening streaming music, it crashes only when i'm going to play MP3 with Google Play or other music players...
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BobMiles:
I have the same issues, everything is fine until I play Music (Google Play Music), then it's reboot madness... I really have no explanation for this... Tried different kernels and Roms and now I'm with PA and Franco kernel, but still the problem is the same.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rxnelson:
Looks like JBQ killed it from an AOSP perspective. FYI
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patsmike:
My question is: has anyone NOT had any problems with memory leak causing tablet lagging leading to reboots???

Could it possibly be a hardware issue affecting some of us while not others? I am saying this because it seems that people aren't complaining about this that often here on XDA, while personally I notice lagging slowly coming on everyday if I don't reboot, and I get random reboots at least once every few days.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmatty:
This is a good question, and a hard one to answer. For a long time there was a bunch of back-and-forth between people who seemed to experience it a lot, and those that did not. After time passed the manifestation of the bug was flushed out and discussed, that's the surfaceflinger memory leak.

After that, or right about that time, only a couple people posted repeatable steps. rxnelson is one of them, and in this quote from him you can see a repeatable test you can do:

"My standard test is to run this video http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/2/4175698/the-verge-mobile-show-041-april-2nd-2013 via chrome and it boosts memory usage by about 100meg per hour watched."

Another user, non N10 specific, posted an app that should trigger the leak in this thread:

https://code.google.com/p/android/i...=5&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars

The way to see surfaceflinger memory use is to use a Terminal Emulator and type: ps su

It appears that you can run one of those two tests, ideally for long hours, to then see how your unit fairs. Those that have dug into the most technical aspects of this believe its present in the 4.2.2 code, thus present on every N10 in existence. But, as for people who had not previously been complaining about this, then running those tests to see? I have not seen anyone.

My original N10 had a different issue, and working on that is how I found all these links and info. My new unit doesn't have the same problem as my old one, so I could test on this too - I simply have not. I'm guessing this IS in the code and therefore WOULD happen on my unit. But, I don't normally watch videos for that long, I use Skype on another device, and apparently a couple hours of gaming or web surfing doesn't trigger it for me... so Im simply not that motivated. It is a bit surprising that others have not done this test though, given the audience here :)

EDIT: Also, in that code.g thread - there is this posted, said to have come from ARM direct:

Hi apstrand,

Thank you for your report. I can confirm that we are able to reproduce the issue with the factory image (4.2.2) provided by Google. This issue does not happen with our release driver which can be found in http://malideveloper.arm.com .

We will test for occurrence of this issue again when the next OTA/factory image comes out.

Best regards,

Tu
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whoster69:
I have noticed that my N10 always gets updates from the Google play store when I reboot it after a lock up.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Suamere:
Fix

Good News? Fix?

In this recently posted thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2367390

noneabove points to some great news regarding the SurfaceFlinger memory leak.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SalsaForte:
Will see if 4.3 fixed it. If not, I'll open a case. I don't think it's normal for a tablet to crash like this.

Now, it's the wait and see game.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frelnik:
Mine still freezes after a wipe and fresh install of 4.3. The surfaceflinger issue may be fixed, but it may not be the cause of all freezing.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SalsaForte:
Mine rebooted this morning while sharing something to Google Keep. Ouch!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kswiss86:
Clean install of stock Android 4.3 and now reboot while surfing with chrome. Dies anybody believe that Google/Samsung will fix this?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amiga4ever123:
My N10 never crashed or reboot with 4.3. Everything working smooth and stable. Try 4.3 maybe it will help.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kswiss86:
I have 4.3 and it Reboot. I already made a Reset but it didnt help. It only is by browsing with chrome...

Going to let google replace my Device. Then i test it again and report back
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amiga4ever123:
I never used chrome
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Curtox:
Mine has been restarting while not in use, just as much as it did on 4.2.2. Seems like 4.3 has made no difference for that problem for me. Owning a Nexus 10 has been such a disappointing experience. So much potential.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amiga4ever123:
I see not every N10 has resrarting problems...
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] connexus:
My third N10 still has random reboot issue

Despite numerous factory data resets and two replacements, my three day old N10 has started freezing and rebooting just like the others. Seems to be triggered by browsing - any browser at all. I gave up Chrome a long time ago as it clearly caused reboots, but Firefox is causing it now, as well as Puffin. I started with a totally clean install - two FDR's before allowing the 4.3 update to load. I guess the surfaceflinger issue is resolved, but apparently it's not the only issue. Safe mode doesn't help. I am seriously contemplating an iPad.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warren_Orange:
Had a reboot on my 2nd hand Nexus 10 I received today. I was running Chrome Beta. It had been running fine all day and I did use it a lot. Just uninstalled Chrome Beta and I won't use Chrome at all.

Can't wait to root tomorrow and put Aosp browser on it.

Overall it seems to be an awesome tablet. I'm impressed with 4.3.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SayWhat10:
It's just the Nexus 10,I sold mine and got a xperia tablet Z, super battery life, no reboots
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kswiss86:
Usw chrome then you will See.

---------- Post added at 09:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------

I contact Google play support and explained the problem. They said such problems are not known by Google. So Google send me now a warranty device. I will test it and report back. If it doesn't help I will get an galaxy note 10.1 or an xpiria z
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimbochou:
My N10 is rebooting during idle.

On stock Android 4.3 with root. Chrome is my main browser with Nova as my launcher.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pfmiller:
I think I found the solution to the random reboots while idle. I was getting 2 or 3 a day after upgrading to 4.3, so I wanted to see if there were any logs that said what was happening when it rebooted. So I've been running adb logcat from my laptop for the past 3 days and I haven't had a reboot since. Go figure! :rolleyes:
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riqjuan:
Well, that's not really a solution now is it?

Man it seems this tablet keeps getting worse with every update. I just don't know how a product like this can be so flakey.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pfmiller:
Nope, sadly it's not. Hopefully I'll be able to catch something useful in the logs from a reboot eventually.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kswiss86:
so on just a quick report.

Google had send me a new Nexus 10 today. I have test it 3 hours an while Browsing with Chrome ---->Reboot.

This Product Sucks. It is so a really awesome tablet with great Hardware and great Price but it instantly rebooting while i use chrome... Somtimes its fine for a while and suddently it reboots.