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[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
I live in Kalamazoo but travel to Jackson a lot and work near the Indiana border. I basically get no coverage except along I-94, nothing south or north along US 131 till I get to GR then again its spotty coverage. I was at the Best Buy in Jackson picking something up for Christmas and was in the phone section showing the guys the Nexus 4 and it had no signal. One of the Best Buy guys had ordered a Nexus 4 also and said TMo coverage very spotty at best in Jackson, basically if your right under a tower you'll get coverage. According to TMo's coverage map I should be getting 3-4 bars of H+ at home but I get almost no signal, that is if I get one at all. I live about a mile from I-94 and once I'm up on the Interstate I get full bars and a strong signal. I use a network signal tester app too so this just isn't going by number of bars alone. I went to ST AT&T within 2 weeks of using TMo and couldn't be happier, I can now make phones calls and text from inside my house and don't have to drive up to I-94 any more to do it.
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
Lansing sucks too.. on AT&T ST because of it. I get 4MB down here. Faster than Sprint!

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Do you guts know of it's possible to get data while roaming? I'm on straight talk at&t
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
From what I understand you can't roam with ST as it won't work off network.
[Nexus 4 General] gooberlx:
To clarify, voice and SMS will roam with ST's GSM/SIM plans, data will not.

straighttalk dot com slash terms (new user anti-spam filter)
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Thanks. I knew you could roam with voice. Kind of lame about the data..
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Hey I'm roaming with data!! AT&T ST
[Nexus 4 General] DOHCtor:
That's nice dude. I roamed with data on AT&T ST before but was only able to get edge.
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
Same here edge in roaming.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Its weird because on my N4 it won't let me get data while roaming, but on my RAZR HD GSM version it will allow me to. I entered the same exact APN on both devices.
[Nexus 4 General] nickacs1:
Nah, was already on TMo prepaid and work building penetration is slim to none every day. Switched and been on ST AT&T since Wed and has been awesome. Data coverage everywhere and at work with zero issues.

Yes, the big test will be if I'm throttled in the next 30 days, but if so, TMo prepaid will never see me again until their coverage starts getting into buildings. Until then, sollie Charlie! LOL
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Interesting thing about ROAMING on ST is that if you're either on ATT or TMO ST service, they are both considered to be in ST network coverage and both will show HOME.

So I wonder who else's network would they ROAM on?

Do a network search, you'll see what I mean. You'll get HOME and HOME. One will deny access.

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What is your phone set to WCDMA or GSM AUTO PRL preferred? Perhaps that makes a difference on it not wanting to drop down to EDGE.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Its lists as HOME, HOME, ROAM, ROAM. And I'm not sure, i just shipped that phone out the other day.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
I see most people are on AT&T ST, how many of you T-Mobile ST users are getting throttled and after how much data usage?

T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 in Vegas is screaming fast, could use more than 100 minutes a month tho without using apps.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] jondroot:
I have T-Mobile ST mainly because I get 10-15 Mbps around town and at&t would be at best 3-5. Have not been throttled but did get a warning after using 3.5 gigs in a month. So I'd say they throttle at 4 gigs which is decent for me. Live in the Seattle area
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Haven't seen anyone mention you can order the sim kits off walmart online now..
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
i have had ST At&T for about 2 months and am pretty happy with it. I am on wifi 90+% of the time so do not use much data- less than 500mb a month. I live in Duluth, Mn and was in the LA/OC area all of last week. Had great coverage there and was never out of range either. There was a noticeable difference in data speed (slower in LA/OC) but never so bad that i could not get a page to load. I am assuming this was due to # of people on network/ congestion. Additionally, it was not at just one time of day but the whole time of there but not too much of a hindrance . Pretty happy with it so far (coming from Verizon.)
[Nexus 4 General] manalf:
I'm in a similar situation, I've had straight talk on AT&T for a month and a half, and I've had no issues at all. I'm in Connecticut, everything around here is covered by ATT (where I am) - no issues whatsoever. I haven't tethered with it - which I've read can get ya capped, but I've streamed music/vids/etc without issue. For $45 a month I have no complaints.

I did try the straight talk t-mobile first, and had good reception at my house (albeit Edge data) but as soon as I left my house I had no service, had to switch to att&t.
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
Anybody got any secrets on what APN type to use? Personally I'm using default,supl,mms,hipri but it feels like the network changes speeds according to the demand. Like, I'll be going through my Twitter time line and it will take forever to load, but I'll run a speed test and be getting 3-4 mbps minimum.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I don't enter anything into those and it works great for me
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
Switched to ATT ST from T-mobile prepaid here. My signal from T-mobile wasn't that great indoors, I would just have Edge anytime I went inside. In the same places on ATT ST I have HSPA coverage now.

I used the APN settings that came with the sim card, mms works and everything seems good so far. I was a bit worried about that since I seen some comments about the ATT mms not working.
[Nexus 4 General] magicriggs:
I can't seem to get Google wallet working. I have my card selected and everything is all set up. It fails upon purchase. I deleted my proxy and port in APN settings. Still no luck. I'm on a n4 using straight talk att. I have strong data connection as well when using it. Any other suggestions. Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Not bad for Straight Talk AT&T
[Nexus 4 General] magicriggs:
Correction....not bad for 45 bucks a month.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Its not a ST issue, more a wallet/NFC based issue. If you search the NFC posts in other threads you will see people having all kinds of problems with it working. I haven't used it yet but from what I've read it only works at a few stores in my area and then its still hit or miss with them.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Lol actually $38 because I went through a coupon website and bought 6 months worth @ $38 a month :D
[Nexus 4 General] magicriggs:
Nice!!!! I'll have to do that.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
It's up to $40 now, but you still save $5 a month http://www.crazygametime.com/item/straight-talk-prepaid-airtime-refill-pin-us-45-30-day/#buy

Or you could get one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-Talk-Unlimited-Text-Talk-and-Web-Access-6-Month-Service-Card-PIN-/300850581974?pt=SIM_Cards&hash=item460c1791d6
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Without jumping any hoops you can get $42/month buying the email delivery refill pin online off of walmart site, using walmart's nevada super store as your physical pick up delivery address. YMMV

Take into consideration how long you buy refills for, if for any reason you are throttled by ATT, your data will remain throttled until your NEXT refill...
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
If you search Straight Talk on Ebay you can find $45 monthly plans for $37-$38 and that's the buy it now price. I haven't used it yet but in the description you have to put your number in the paypal notes, then they add it to your ST account within a day or so. I looked at a couple of the pages, they have positive feedback too. I'll try it out next month, I just started my plan a few days ago.

Here is one link for a $37

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-Ta...48954?pt=SIM_Cards&hash=item43b818e87a&_uhb=1
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Interesting..wonder if they are gifting. Last time there were $99 3 month cards on amazon. Until they suddenly stopped selling. Who knows how they really got the cards, but they were valid.

The ebay you listed has 245 100% positive. Another theory is they need the cash flow and flipping credit.. Like people at gas stations filling your car on their cc for your cash.
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
i've used the crazygametime site in a past and it was 36.33 total but that was when they had an additional 10-15% off. they emailed me the pin in about 5 minutes. i used a virtual credit card number just to be safe. not sure about the ebay but as someone mentioned, not sure if i want to buy 6 months in advance just in case i get throttled etc.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Yeah crazygametime is great
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
they sure are. had a second transaction with them yesterday. 39.99 total (no tax) and had the pin in less than 5 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] NexusIncarnate:
I read somewhere that Walmart fixed that. Plus, I don't know that $5 is worth it for wire fraud over state lines and tax evasion. :)
[Nexus 4 General] asqwrd:
Anyone have issues with data on Straight talk AT&T during peak hours or in heavily congested/populated areas? I had Net10 and my data would just stop working in areas with alot of people or during peak hours it would be really slow. Just wondering if Straight talk is any different. I live in the Bay Area
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Never had any of these problems, but then again I don't live in the big city
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
It will not matter if you are on AT&T or one of the MNVO's, the AT&T HSPA network is terrible during peak hours in areas with a lot of users. There's no way around it unless you use a different network.
[Nexus 4 General] asqwrd:
I thought this as well but i was with friends who were on AT&T and their data worked fine while mine would timeout despite having full bars. So this lead me to believe it was a MVNO. I was just wondering if anyone sees this on Straight talk seems to me no one talks about usage in congested areas or maybe most people here dont live in big cities:rolleyes: would like to see what people have to say cuz i know net10 and straight talk are from the same company
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
I live in Seattle on AT&T Straight Talk, data seems similar all the time but I've only had it for about a week now.

One thing I noticed since switching from T-mobile prepaid to AT&T ST my data is always on HSPA, before when I was on T-mobile my signal would switch to 3G when I wasn't actively using any data. Is this happening with anyone else?
[Nexus 4 General] racer_d:
I am on T-Mobile with my Nexus 4. My wife gets great reception where we live outside of Tulsa, OK in a small small town. She is able to get an HSPA connection, but she is on AT&T. Myself on T-Mobile, I usually don't have any reception in the house. I do get some voice about the town, but rarely have a usable data connection.

If I set up a AT&T VPN being on T-Mobile, would that possibly offer me better connectivity? Or maybe try a different device?(Exchanging my N4 for another N4)

To get around 0 reception I installed SIPDroid which allows me to receive and make calls using my Wifi. It uses your Google Voice number.
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
I think you meant APN, not VPN. A VPN is a private network that you would use through your company. That being said, you couldnt use an ATT APN since the network wont be recognized by your t-mo sim.

I dont think it has much to do with the device either as the N4, for me, has the best antenna strength of all the phones Ive used in the past 2 years including all previous Nexus devices.

The problem is the spectrum that t-mobile uses. Its not strong enough to penetrate buildings like the lower spetrum that ATT uses. This is something that is discussed often but overlooked easily. The reason t-mo has a faster connection typically isnt because of how many towers they have or the spectrum they use, its that they have less subscribers on their network creating less bandwidth use.
[Nexus 4 General] asqwrd:
Im on Solavei right now and my phone does that except it goes to HSPA when not actively using data and when i do use it it switches to HSPA+ im considering going to straight talk because I t mobile doesnt have good building penetration so some times i get no service. Can anyone on straight talk in a big city comment on how data is for them during peak hours? Net10 was horrible for me Im reluctant to try because they are the same company
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Actually tmobile is hspa+ @42mbs, where att is @21mbs.

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If net10 att byop was bad for you, st att byop yield the same results, because the y are one and the same. One is just the "walmart" pricing version.. This would mean its as bad for you on att as well, because that who's network they ride on, other than tmo.

This is true for byop, and may not apply to their brand phones, which may use any of the big 4..

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Wonder what the law is on charging taxes on refill pin cards.. Using ebay personally, cheaper..

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It's like idling your car at lower rpm while waiting at a light. Why waste gas revving the car. Same concept. Att idles hspa:10 and bumps to hspa:15 when needed. Tmo idles umts:3 3G and boosts to hspa:15. Why waste battery boosting when idle.
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
Technically yes this is correct. However, while I was on the t-mo sim, I never saw anything over HSPA-15. Even when I was in NY a couple Sundays ago it never went past 15. Also, I never got as high speeds in the city as I did when I was at my house in the suburbs. So its really of no consequence. Data speeds from the network might be presented as such, but if you never get them(or signal for that matter) its pointless.
[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
Funny situation... My wife and I are both on ST ATT.. We were at a function the other night in a highschool gym. Outside the gym, and I mean, a step out the door.. Full coverage HSPA, but just one step in the gym...0 service and I mean EMERGENCY CALLS ONLY no service. Completely empty signal bars..The couple eating dinner with us had Tmobile and they both had 2 bars of service sitting right next to us.

Riddle me that friends...
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I know my highschool had a cell blocker so that the kids couldn't use their phones in school
[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
Interesting.. But...would they just block ATT bandwidth..? Why would TMobile be getting through?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I have no idea
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
Weird, my usual experience with both is the opposite. I've personally used both and I switched to ATT because I actually get HSPA in buildings. With tmobile my signal would drop to edge, which was painfully slow. Tmobile is faster but if I lose that speed anytime I go inside its a waste for me.

And here in Seattle both have good coverage.

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Yes, I understand the idea of saving battery life. Since I just switched to AT&T I was wondering if it was normal for AT&T to stay on HSPA instead of going to 3G like on T-Mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I thought it was normal. Thats what my phone did on st att as well, initial page loads was much faster on st att than tmo is.

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My nexus 4 switches to hspa:15 on both att st and tmo. But I get 2-5 times the speed on tmo's hspa:15 than att's version.
[Nexus 4 General] lakedubvt:
2nd month on AT&T ST throttled again right after going over 1GB... Think I am just going to start using two ST sims each month... Just wish there was a better option if you want AT&T
[Nexus 4 General] sk8ordie0:
Guess you all have heard that ST or net 10 carry the at&t now..... wonder where this is gonna go? Grandfather the current users or get the boot? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
...That'd be $100/mo after taxes. At that point you might as well just sign back up with one of the national carriers.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Eh, they've been carrying the att sim since byop started.

Unless you misspoke. And mean they stopped. Walmart already has them again.
[Nexus 4 General] sk8ordie0:
http://www.phonenews.com/tracfone-removes-att-sim-cards-from-byod-offering-22257/

Here is the link that was posted on my thread. It was posted after a dev commented on the rumor and talk that he had heard.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I still think ATT screwed the pooch randomly throttling Straight Talk users and leaving their customer service high and dry without a clear cut answer for complaining customers.

Can't really offer "unlimited" when your users get throttled at 1gb data use, as some have claimed.

Although Tmobile's offering may not be as robust as ATT with availability and building signal penetration. At least they're consistently higher speeds and albeit limited "unlimited" data of reportedly getting a warning at around 4gb use is more reasonable.

I don't think ST could keep offering it and keep a straight face. Having louder complaints than compliments hurts their branding and bottom line. Every satisfied customer may yield 3 new customers. But one dissatisfied customer looses you 10. And in this day of internet and social media, that's surely multiplied ten fold..

Perhaps Walmart isn't as concerned and willing to keep offering the option and perhaps ST is obligated by their contract with Walmart to allow them to do so. But cutting down on the possibilities of bad press by illiminating it from their offerings from their own sites.

Besides Tmobile is now data compatible with unlocked ATT phones. Where previously you'd be limited to Edge.

Pure speculation on my part.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
How do you guys know how much data you've used in a month with ST? Is there an app or something?
[Nexus 4 General] SpookyTunes:
Settings -> Data usage

Then set the "Data usage cycle".

Not exact, but close enough.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Well that's if you only use one phone. I've switched phones probably 30 times in the past week lol.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
If youre on att st, download and use att apps on play. AttSmartWifi checks your data use. But the n4 also has an estimate under "data usage".

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I am still wondering, since I've yet to find a definitive answer on whether data is also being throttled by T-Mobile on straight talk??
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
There's suppose to be free shipping on orders greater than or equal to $14.99 but during the check out process when you choose which shipping, they all have prices next to them instead of any if them saying free, which are you supposed to pick and is it free?

Sent from my Nexus 4

Edit: nvm
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
So what are people going to do if ST gives AT&T the boot (or vice-versa?) I am not even sure if T-MObile has coverage in my area and even if they do it would really suck either way. I have been really happy with ST AT&T. Will you try to stick it out with ST T-Mobile or switch to another AT&T MVNO?
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
If AT&T drops them, I'm going to buy an AT&T SIM and use their 3 GB tablet data plan and just use Google Voice. I don't know why I'm not doing that now
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
What do you mean st is giving AT&T the boot?
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
They are not dropping AT&T just sold out.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-sold-out-of-att-sim-cards-online-dont-panic/
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
glad to see that news and hope it stays that way. thank you
[Nexus 4 General] sudhirkhanger:
I wanted to try T-Mobile but ST doesn't have T-Mobile micro Sim yet that might have spiked the sale of att Sims.
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
You can get the T-mobile sim and cut it to the micro sim size. You can use something like scissors or there are kits on ebay that do it for you.

I found a youtube video and printed out the size of a micro sim, used that as a template to cut the sim card.
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
You know Google Voice, at least as far as the mobile app, is not VOIP right? It calls a number in California, which then relays you to the final destination.
[Nexus 4 General] one_love_420:
Last night I ordered the at&t micro sim combo with the month mins card from Walmart and 20 mins later Walmart cancelled the transaction but payment is still pending. It states it could take up to 2 weeks for the refund to go thru. So I purchased just the st at&t micro sim and that order is still being processed. So I hope that the second order of just the sim card goes thru and not cancelled. I have found several sellers on eBay selling the at&t micro sims but at a ridiculous prices. Over $30 and up to $75 just for the sim cards. I hope that it is just that they went out of stock and not something else.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
That's why you use the combination of Google voice and groove IP
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Just saw this posted on their facebook

http://www.straighttalkblog.com/2013/01/straight-talk-automated-retail-shops.html?m=1
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
wow there's one like 5 minutes from my work lol.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Just saw telcel, another tracfone $45 unlimited..
[Nexus 4 General] one_love_420:
I got a question hopefully someone can help me out. I'm scheduled to get my nexus 4 today and I got the ST at&t sim. I haven't activated it yet, I'm wondering if I can activate the sim test out the service for a few days and then later decide to port my number over to the already activated sim or do I have to port the number when activating the sim?
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
You can port anytime later over the phone if you want to use a temporary number first to see how it works.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
You can't port the number to a sim once you activate it with a number they assign they will have to send you another micro sim. I did this a few months ago to ensure I had a signal with AT&T first, I called them and they sent me a new micro sim free of charge. I also had to call in to activate the new one and couldn't do it on-line, took all of 20 minutes But with them being short on micro sims right now you're taking the chance that they won't have any to send to you for who knows how long.
[Nexus 4 General] ms0chez:
First time using straight talk and just got my at&t micro sim in today. I set the APN settings to the ones on the instructions right, then later flashed another ROM and had to set them all over again. Is that how its gonna each time I flash a new ROM? Is there anyway to make them stick?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Use titanium backup. I believe that saves your APN settings. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
[Nexus 4 General] FSRBIKER:
I use an app called APN Backup.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Im already not fan of Straight Talk and I havent even gotten my SIM card yet.

They sent it signature required and they put some sort of restriction on the package that prevents FedEx from holding it for pickup. Guess those $15 SIMs are really breaking the bank. I also guess most of their customers are unemployed, otherwise I cant understand why they would expect that I should be at home at 11:00am on a week day. So basically this SIM wont be delivered, its going to get refused because there is no way to change delivery and Im never going to be home when they try to deliver it.

And to top it all off its impossible to get a human on their system and when you finally do accidentally bump into one you cant understand them.
[Nexus 4 General] sk8ordie0:
Why not just put a note on your door stating for the FedEx driver to please leave my package under the mat and sign for me .? (Only if your porch is safe for that and in a trusting neighborhood.)