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[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
l......m....a......o...... oh really... the only 3? ever heard of cnet?

http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/google-nexus-10/4505-3126_7-35513295-2.html

"You'll still want to make the iPad your first choice thanks to its years of refined performance, apps selection, and content ecosystem. If you're going for Android, right now it'll depend on what you're looking for. The Transformer Infinity has a brighter screen, better camera, and a built-in storage expansion option."

............like i said you are a joke lol. You really do entertain me lmao....

...While we are at it...lets look at techradar as well....

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/google-nexus-10-1109003/review/10#articleContent

"The Google Nexus 10 is clearly a brilliant tablet. It's got top-end specs at a mid-range price; that alone makes it deserving of attention. Add to that a generally stunning screen and near faultless performance and it really does start to look like an iPad beater.

But after spending some time with it we can't quite be as enthusiastic as we'd like. The lack of expandable storage combined with the fairly limited internal storage really hampers its media capabilities. Since tablets are for most people a media-centric device that's a real issue and the single biggest problem with the Google Nexus 10, along with the screen offering slightly muted colours and contrast ratios.

We don't want to end on a negative note as most of the other problems are little more than nitpicking and it really is an impressive device. If you want a 10 inch Android tablet this is easily one of the best there is, and in this price range it's absolutely the best. The Asus Transformer Pad Infinity arguably beats it..."

To the OP: As i said before, you are in the Nexus 10 forums, so your answers are going to be biased...If you just do a quick Google search of reviews comparing the 2, almost every site agrees, the infinity is better device. Facts and UNBIASED consensus don't lie.... :)
[Nexus 10 General] mjpado:
I had TF300 & INFINITY now, NEXUS 10

I had both the tf300 and tf700 Infinity. The 300 was a nice intro into the tablet market for me. After using it, it was a stable machine however nothing spectacular. I wanted more. So I returned it and stepped up to the tf700. As soon I got home with the device and turned it on for the first time I noticed something that I didn't on the tf300, there was light leaking out from the sides. Now I had no knowledge of "light leakage" on tablets so I was like, "what the heck is that?". I did some research and found that this can be a common problem in general with tablets. However it is a big issue with the Infinity. So I returned it for another. Same problem but worse. Ugh!!! The 3rd one was not as bad as the second but still distracting, especially watching movies. And another issue was the machine is slow when running a couple of apps. Not many just a few and lag creeps in. Not fun when I bought a top of the line device. I figured give it a shot since the nexus 7 was built by them, and I read they update their devices quickly. Which they do. That's my take on the infinity. I am so happy I was able to return it with-in 30 days, because Google announced the Nexus 10 was coming out on the 15th. I was able to get one on that day. And I am happy, satisfied, and impressed by the 10. This thing is fast, screen is great, only problem I can tell is chrome can be picky at times. Other than that the device is serving its purpose at full potential.
[Nexus 10 General] Tomatoes8:
Lol that review says the screen is brighter not better you moron.

How is that tech radar, the verge, phone arena, slash gear, android central, and just about every other review says the screen is the best?

Idiot. Lol

Wow! Did you actually quote tech radar which gave it a 4.5 out of 5? That bit at the end about arguably is just throwing you morons a bone. So, you are dumber than I thought.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
really...because i just posted techradar above this post...yea, your not lying at all lol...

Lol no use arguing with you, facts are facts, you just choose to be a [EDIT] :)
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Anyone considering purchasing an Asus tablet that's not in dire need of a keyboard (and the extended battery life it provides), the additional ports (the N10 has HDMI and USB), or the aforementioned Super IPS display which cuts battery life in half needs to think hard about spending more for less.

The TF700 doesn't have 5GHz Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi channel bonding, BT 4.0, or a GPS that supports Glonass. What it does have is family legacy of IO issues and QC defects caused by Asus' use of second-tier and sometimes outdated components.

Here's a comparison of the TF700 to the Note 10.1 on the latters forum. In it, you'll find quite a few people that converted and their comments. Anyone considering a TF700 should pay special attention to previous owners comments and opinions in moving to a Samsung tablet. The Note exceeds the TF700 in everyway with the exception of not having a FHD display. And obviously that's not an issue with the N10.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1833842&highlight=infinity

Here's an interesting piece by Anand that discusses Asus IO issues and both their cause and affect. This is a brief video demonstrating the issue(s) he talks about. Those of you talking about moving large volumes of files to and from the device should pay particular attention.

[YOUTUBE]S6Q0Qv3m36Q[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6

The people happy with Asus tablets either use them lightly and don't have a lot of background processes running or have voided their warranty to unlock and perform open heart surgery on them to get them to run like most tablets do out of the box. To

have

to do that to a $499 piece of kit to get competitive performance out of it is pretty hard to defend IMHO but yet the debate rages on. The TF700 is a year-old TF201 with a FHD display and a slightly upgraded version of a fifteen-month old 40nm A9 Tegra 3 chip. The N10 is using a 32nm A15 chip, is supported by Google directly, is built with modern higher-spec'd Samsung components, and costs less. Assuming the keyboard's not a deciding factor the decision's pretty easy.
[Nexus 10 General] cwoodard73:
So you think someone who has the tablet for a day or two, does a review and then puts it away forever has a more clear picture of a tablet's actual usability in real life than someone who struggled with the primes/infinities for months and then finally had to give them up because they didn't work well enough to fulfill the purposes for which they were bought? Ok then...

I may have missed this earlier in the thread, but do YOU have a Nexus 10 Pierrekid? If not, how can you be making a fair comparison/judgment on their actual usability in day to day life situations. And if not, why are you even bothering to haunt these forums, lol.
[Nexus 10 General] Croak:
^^^^^^^^

What he said.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
Lol yes you did miss it, i did own the N10, and got rid of it. And to comment on you opinion about having the tablet for only a day or two...that exactly what everyone on here is doing.. the n10 has been out for only a week...very hypocritical of you. So yes, i will trust these guys because they have had the tablet LONGER than anyone on these forums (almost every site has review units at least a week before launch) and actual compare the two tabs on video...You are jumping on the proverbial bandwagon of the nexus 10 without actually looking at the all aspects of the device. Im here giving my opinion to the OP.
[Nexus 10 General] cwoodard73:
Well that's good at least :) Still would be nice to see you acknowledge the right for others to have a different opinion/experience than you!

And oh, I can use my email app on the Nexus 10. So that makes it way more usable for me than the Primes/Infinities ever were, even after only a week, lol.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Further, if the below were restaurant kitchens, which restaurant would you choose to dine in?

TF700, Note 10.1, N10
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
I do honestly... but not acknowledging the N10 shortcomings is just as bad. I said before that the lag was bad on the infinity, but with the updates that recently came out the lag was gone. I also acknowledge the build quality problems that were present in the beginning, but again all those issues were fixed. But with the N10- battery, graphic performance and external storage capabilities cannot be fixed, which is why i decided to stick with my infinity. Just funny how no one wants to call out their precious new nexus 10 on its shortcooming...

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...what? dude you are another poster who uses old information against the infinity. And that analogy....ugh. Also, i dont know how your calender works, but mine says that the infinity came out in june...which is not a year ago....

By the way my infinity is unrooted, stock and i use it for school everyday (off charger around 7am till 630pm when i get home with about 30 % left). Use it for heavily for...everything lol. Movies, photos, class notes, recordings etc... and this thing performs like a boss. Dont know what open heart surgery you are talking about.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
You're comparing a device that's been updated a half-dozen times to one that's literally just been released. Things like battery life and CPU/GPU tuning can hopefully improve over time. They've improved historically on all the devices I've owned and the same thing applies to the TF700.

Here's what I'd objectively tell people looking at the N10 that aren't interested in making it a science project:

1) The displays fantastic but a bit dimmer than some others and there are some issues with apps not supporting the resolution (hopefully "yet").

2) Battery life isn't going to be the best because of the number of pixels the GPU is pushing.

3) While Exynos 5 is a beast overall fluidity under load might not be as great as it could be. Again because of the number of pixels being pushed.

4) Using the phone UI on tablet is something people should come to terms with before pulling the trigger. Especially if all they've ever seen are other skinned Android tablets.

5) Samsung devices are well made but their use of plastic is something people have to accept. The number of N10's with light bleed is also something I'd mention.

Fair? But even with that I'd recommend it easily over any Asus tablet. Especially at the price.

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You missed the point. The Infinity is nothing more than a slightly modified Prime (TF201) which was released at this time last year. Asus has been using the same AzureWave Wi-Fi radio without 5GHz support that causes simultaneous BT streaming conflicts since the TF101 was released. And the TF101 will be two years old next month. Nobody's telling you not to be happy but the number of issues that repeatedly have shown up in Asus forums over time kind of paint a different picture.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
Really-

Hows the external storage capabilities?

Whats wrong with the graphics performance?

Is there anyway to get a bigger battery or at least extend battery life?

Will updates be affected since its a samsung device like the galaxy nexus was?

My friend...again you are picking the questions and points that would still favor the N10. You are an N10 owner, i understand why you are biased.
[Nexus 10 General] cwoodard73:
I think every device has shortcomings. You have to weigh what's most important to you. I had to chose between a separating screen (on the Infinity. build problems fixed? hardly), lousy wifi signal strength (with the prime), the inability to use core apps due to incessant crashing (both devices), launcher crashes requiring reboot to fix 2x/hour (at LEAST) (both devices), entire system freezes requiring reboot (5x/day at LEAST) (both devices) versus a device that has done none of these things so far. So, damn straight I'm going to pick the one I can actually USE. That's my top level criteria. If the OP goes with Infinity and lucks out and has none of these problems, then he will probably be quite happy with it. But... a LOT of people have not had nearly as good a time with them as you have. Only fair that he know that.

But I also prefer the display on the Nexus. I think photos and text look better on it. I personally find no big difference in the battery life between the Prime and Infinity when you take the dock out of the picture. I don't play graphics intensive games so I cannot comment on their respective performances/battery drain; it's not a criteria that matters to me. Neither is the external storage.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
Lmao are you serious. Barring a defective unit, the wireless issues do not exist in the infinity, or the 101 ( i still have my og). The prime was the only one to have issues, and that was because of the backplate blocking signal transmission. Lol seriously man? now your just reaching...
[Nexus 10 General] Tomatoes8:
Lol what kind of moron uses a 4.5/5 review that says the screen is stunning as proof that people say the infinity has a better screen? Clueless morons like you I guess. Nowhere in that review did they do anything except praise the Nexus 10 and the Nexus 10 earned its rating with much tougher competition.

If you want to have any decent argument at all, stick to the poor reviews like the three you originally posted. Once you start getting into the good reviews for materials and people actually read them, your argument turns into **** and becomes the joke it currently is. Lol sigh. People these days.

The crux of your argument is that some idiots like Engadget said the infinity had a better screen, nowhere in that tech radar review did they say the infinity had a better screen. Fix your argument so that there is some logic in them please.
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Those are all excellent points and if the TF700 didn't have so many recurring and design/component related issues it would be a tougher comparison. But if the queen had balls she'd be king.

And your fourth point doesn't apply. Only non-Google GN's had update issues. Since the N10's a Google device updates won't be an issue and in fact are a selling point. And based on the poor quality of Asus' updates (which do get pushed out frequently in their defense) it's kind of like "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
Build quiality issues have been fixed. WHat about your backplate clicking and seperation. I dont see you guys mentioning that. Look in your own forums. Every device is going to have defective units, including your N10. Inability to use core apps? what are you talking about? maps, gmail, and every other gapp work flawlessly, Even the asus web storage and asus apps work fine. Seriously your just lying now. And WHO CARES about the prime lol its not the inifnity. Do you see me bringing up the galaxy note 10.1? no because its not the N10. Bro enjoy your N10, clearly you are a huge fan of it... My opinion is just to help the OP decide...
[Nexus 10 General] neugenusis:
I think it's more appropriate to RESPECT others opinions/experiences rather than respond in a way that says "you're so fake" or "you don't know anything".
[Nexus 10 General] Tomatoes8:
He is just going to ignore that and find one negative line in that glowing review that specifically says the decision is pretty easy and then just claim that they say the infinity has a better screen. That is the extent of his argumentative skills. Lol
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm convinced Asus puts some sort of chemical on their device's displays that cause people that touch them to go in to some type of pro-Asus fugue. Everything I've said here is easily verified in any Asus forum. I have a Teg3 One X which I think's a great phone and mine is issue free. But from participating in their forum a higher number of devices than is appropriate have had issues; some serious. Just because I'm happy doesn't mean that the device I'm happy with can't have issues. And even with that said it has far fewer issues than Asus' tablets.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
lol ok first stop with the analogies...just corny. What about the backplate clicking issues reported on the N10? Also how does the last point not count. The galaxy nexus...is a nexus device...made by samsung...how does this not apply. Samsung is known for delaying updates, even in pure google phones.
[Nexus 10 General] cwoodard73:
Hah, all my problems with the Infinity are solved! I've been lying all along! Good to know! You should probably go and let everyone else on XDA know that they are liars if they had trouble with the Infinity so that you can set their minds at ease and solve all their woes too!
[Nexus 10 General] BarryH_GEG:
Are you reading any of the responses before replying to them? Samsung's devices are plastic as I previously said and that really does put some people off. If I had to choose between a spiffy aluminum-backed device that's immobilized if its downloading in the background vs. a plastic device that "clicks" if touched in a certain way guess which I'd pick? Which would most people pick?
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
lmao this is funny! Nah think ill just stick to what i told the OP to do, look at real reviews...5 out of the 7 review sites dont lie lol.

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Yes i am looking at the replies... and dont care about the material samsung used, im looking at the build quality issues of back plate clicking...Did you read the entire post?...lol i guess not since we are onto the subject of plastic vs. aluminum which i clearly did not bring up lol...
[Nexus 10 General] duarian:
My infinity went back yesterday for a refund. Best decision I ever made. That didn't feel like a $450 tablet. The performance was on par with my old droid x. If it weren't for the poor I/o I would have kept it over my n10.
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
With your droid x? LMAO now thats comical Go ahead keep making yourself feel better about the N10.
[Nexus 10 General] duarian:
You are without a doubt the biggest Asus fanboy I have ever met. All you need to do is go to the tf700 forums and there are many posts showing how the I/o is very poor in the infinity. Hell there are TWO data2sd mods out to remedy this situation! Comparing the N10 to thentf700 is literally comparing an S3 to an original droid or possibly a droid x.

Also I noticed you said earlier you "own" a nexus 10 yet you also stated its your sisters n10 you had next to you? Curious which it actually is. I have my counts you have any tablet other than a infinity.

Whatever floats your boat, but you come on this thread and throw away facts based on your own fanboyism. All you have to do is Google Asus transformer infinity and some of the top fill-ins are laggy. A $450 device should have zero lag and I should not need to void my warranty by unlocking my tablet to install a custom ROM that merely covers up the problem. If your happy with your infinity that's great. We all have different expectations and needs of a tablet. The n10 is far from perfect , slow charge times coupled with an insane screen resolution that cripples the performance in some applications.

As I said, if the infinityn wasn't so laggy I would have kept it no questions asked. The build was very solid and I loved the super ips mode. However taking over two minutes to reboot and sometimes over two to three minutes to install an app is not something I expect from a $450 device
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
Why thank you :) (bows to the crowd). All jokes aside. Both tabs are great, but the infinity is just a better device.

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Lol and if you actually read my posts, you would know i gave my N10 to my sister. You should learn to read the entire post before you comment...
[Nexus 10 General] Tomatoes8:
Looks like the slow io Asus vivo tab and the tegra 3 gets owned by the surface RT too. I wonder if this loser Pierre guy will use weak arguments to support that too. Hahaha
[Nexus 10 General] pierrekid:
lol laughing at your own joke...classic :) please keep the jokes coming because im clearly not taking your comments seriously

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All jokes aside, I hope OP does make an informed decision on which tablet to go with. If he chooses the N10 great, if not and goes with the infinity, also great. As long as he stays in the android family its all good. I don't want this thread to get closed because it does provide some legit criticism of both tablets that will be useful to many other users.So lets calm down on the insults and to each his own. To the OP, I recomend you post a similar thread in the general forum and look at other outlets for legit comparisons between these two awesome tabs
[Nexus 10 General] iheartandroi:
I agree, Got my N10 on saturday knowing i still had about 2 weeks left on my infinity insurance and 60 day return period from best bey (gold member). Reasons why im returning my N10...

-The battery absolutely sucks...seriously how are you guys dealing with this. Its horrid compared to my infinity.

- The screen looks exactly the same. I wouldnt say that one is better than the other, but for sure the difference is extremely minimal ( i also do professional photography on the side of my publishing job, so screen quality is huge to me). I tried playing different mkvs', deadzone and couple other things. They both look exactly the same. Also its REALLY hard to view the N10 in sunlight. Its a nice screen, but the outdoor performance isnt good.

- I actually had a group meeting on monday where i was recording different report standards for my publishing company. I had about 3 files recorded when my N10 died...literally. It kept restarting and i had to do a factory reset...with all of my voice file on the tab... I was so pissed because if this was my infinity i would have been recording straight to the sd where, even if the infinity started f-ing up, i would still have the data. So now im REALLY missing the sd card slot.

- again, i cant really stress how pissed off i am about the above situation...I had to re-record everything...all 4 hours :(

-Also i get alot of stuttering when playing games. I get that too on the infinity but alot more so on the N10. And i only get that on the inifnity if im in power saving mode.

-Miracast...WTF!

- Last is not having the keyboard for extra battery. After i finally got the N10 working, I left it recording on my desk for a design meeting without it being plugged in (made sure to have my back up recorder (infinity) with me)...died in 5 hours and 39 minutes. Literally all i did was quickly do a search on chrome. Besides that all it did was record. And guess what, when it died, it corrupted the file since it was still recording, so lost that file recording too....

So yea, The N10 was cool, but it has way too many problems to justify it over the infinity...
[Nexus 10 General] espionage724:
Reading the little bit of page 10 kind of makes me wonder what's on the other 9 pages... lol

In any case, I'm not really sure what else I can add. I haven't owned a TF7000, and owned a Nexus 10 for a few days.

- Battery life is meh. But then again as long as I'm not gaming on it from 100% battery to 0%, it should last alright

- Build quality is pretty good. I have a very minor light-bleed area on the bottom-right of my tablet, that is only noticible with 100% brightness on black (so... I'd probably never see it during general use)

- Screen quality is nice :) Colors seem where their supposed to be, and text is very clear, along with textures

Overall, it's a pretty nice device :) Kind of wish ROM/Kernel development would.. spike a bit I guess, but it's not that big of a deal.

These performance issues with a few games are the only thing I'm not too pleased with currently. Maybe I was just expecting a bit too much though (was expecting to play any game at a consistent 60 FPS)...