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[Nexus 4 General] Loggerhead87:
Just picked up a refill card for the first time. Going to setup my phone on Straight Talk TMO and see how it works. I was delighted to learn that when buying refill cards in-store at Walmart you aren't charged any sales tax. Nice surprise :)
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
What state are you in? Here in Florida Walmart charges sales tax. I picked up a reusable refill hoping that wouldn't have taxes...
[Nexus 4 General] Loggerhead87:
I'm in Idaho. We have sales tax here, which is why it seemed unusual and I mentioned it.
[Nexus 4 General] SpookyTunes:
On the Nexus 4, H=HSPA which is 3G/4G. Your phone will idle at HSPA-10 (3G) and under data use, will jump to HSPA-15 (4G) where available.

E=Edge (2G) and I believe G=GRMS (1G). Never heard of R?
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
R=Roaming

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Yea my T-Mobile refills also get charged sales tax. It's not right some get taxed others don't. I mean some other cards in the same store aren't taxes.
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
If you're looking for the cheapest ST refill, you have to use Crazy Game Time. Just reupped today for $43. http://www.crazygametime.com/item/straight-talk-prepaid-airtime-refill-pin-us-45-30-day/
[Nexus 4 General] jonathan3579:
Here's my Straight Talk (T-Mobile) speeds and my usage is almost 4gb and I've still got about 2 weeks left. I don't see how (or why) people are getting throttled or cut off.
[Nexus 4 General] eollie:
If you sign up for autodraft you get 2.50 off the price via the ST website.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
Throttling is on the ATT ST, not T-Mobile. As many of us had indicated, T-mobile has a much smaller coverage area than other carriers, and is not a viable option for many.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
Like I said before, it's all about the money and how that can make the most of it while still gaining customers.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
What's service like compared to tmobile?
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
If youre using a T-Mobile compatible SIM its identical. Its stated though that it would get throttled before T-Mobile's post-paid customers on a busy tower but so far I cant say I have experienced it. The girlfriend shifted to ST first and in populated areas running a speed test between the two were usually identical (or actually averaging a hair faster on ST). Both Rev11 N4s.

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Where do you see that? I dont see any reference to a discount for auto-refill, only for buying multiple months in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] FSRBIKER:
I have bought my last four refills here($41.49), paid with PayPal and within 15-30 minutes my refill is complete. They will even email you a screenshot each time to show your refill has been completed. http://www.refillmobi.com/
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
+1 on crazygametime, used them a few times and have always got my pin emailed in less than 5 minutes. The only problem I have had is that my CC # does not go through once in a while, but i just generate a virtual number it goes through fine. I can say their prices can fluctuate. It's up to 42.99 now and was 41.99 15 days ago, even got mine for 36.99 in december. The good thing is no tax - so end up saving atleast 5 bucks rather than buying from walmart or straight talk

I believe that offer was only available till Feb 19th and has expired
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
I don't think so. Our data will probably be capped in the near future. My data plan is up tonight. I will post if my speeds go back to my normal of 5-7. Right now I am getting 250. I hope I don't have to put in the new AT&T SIM. They told me if I do this I will lose my number to get my speed back. I posted earlier about my fiasco with being in a new primary location with this active SIM.
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
I was THROTTLED!!!

Okay, I was throttled. After my communication with ST and them telling me I wasn't being throttled, I was. I have included the pictures to show I was. I believe I crossed that the 1.5gb for the month, or the one day I had a 300mb day. But on the 300mb day I did not get throttled until about 8-9 days later. As I stated before, I updated to 4.2.2 and lost my data consumption for the month. Anyway, I am back to normal speeds after my MONTH was up. BTW I had never been throttled by ST before even when I approached 3gb in a month.
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
able to activate AT&T micro sim

I have had Straight talk AT&T since November when I got my N4 and have been happy with it-coming from Verizon. My wife's contract ended on the 7th and I had bough a AT&T micro sim from walmart online about a month ago- this was when Straight Talk had stopped selling them on their site. I was able to activate it on friday with no issues. It says out of stock on the walmart website now, but you still might be able to find it on amazon/ ebay. I could not switch to T-Mobile as their coverage is pretty bad around my area from what I hear.
[Nexus 4 General] joey3002:
I gotta ask, what did you do to get 1.5gb on your phone? I dont think I have ever hit 1gb with the 3 lines combined in my house. I have even tethered when I found myself needing to do some quick web work while on vacation. Not attacking, just curious. I see so many people saying they get throttled and I am always curious what they could be doing on their phone. thanks
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
I stream Pandora while I work. I am a painter work outside with headphones on. I have never gone over 2gb in a month. And never over 100mb in a day.(except this month). I watch my use for the fact of potential throttle. My overage was due to the blizzard and power out for three days. Nothing to do but surf the net. That's how I went high. BTW when I did go above 2gb it was like my first couple months 2+ years ago when I first got ST and had no idea about things in general!!

Thanks for clarifying about curiosity.
[Nexus 4 General] Infinite7154:
I used 8gb's last month on my T-Mo unlimited value plan. I watched DirecTV and HBO Go a lot while I was at work. Plus, when I saw a ROM or a theme that I liked, I would just download it directly from my phone.

Now I'm on the ST AT&T plan so I won't be using my data as much. I am curious about one thing: how do you keep track of data on ST?
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
If you go yo your quick settings and tap on the phone signal in the center it will take you to a screen that shows how much data your phone has used. (Note: your phone's record may differ from the carrier's record.) You can set warnings and an upper limit to how much data you use from this screen.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
No doubt it's been answered, but what are the daily and monthly limits for AT&T usage before throttling?
[Nexus 4 General] FSRBIKER:
I use My Data Manager app to track my use, back it up before flashing a new Rom and your set.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] cgulliver:
Been on St ATT for about 2 weeks now and it has been fine. Actually better coverage than TMo. I sip data, even on my unlimited VZW LTE I used less than a gig per month. Now to cancel VZW for good.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Its 1.5 GB monthly and 50 MB daily, this is assuming 1.5 GB/30 days per month= 50 MB. It used to be 100 MB was the limit per day but since then the total monthly allotment has been lowered so I would assume so too has the daily limit.

**do not use Speedtest on StraightTalk as it is a data hog and will quickly put you over the limit.

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I too use hardly any data and left Verizon's unlimited data plan for this but I never used it anyways but it was still hard to let it go after 4 years. ST AT&T definitely isn't for anyone who needs unlimited data. I would be with TMo if they didn't have such a crappy signal everywhere in Michigan except for maybe downtown Detroit.
[Nexus 4 General] NYZack:
This seems to be hearsay. Many people have reported many different points at which they have been throttled. Many people report using a lot of data and not being throttled at all. It may have to do with where you are, and there may be false reports. The 1.5GB limit is for Net10 using an AT&T SIM and has never been confirmed for Straight Talk, even though Net10 and Straight Talk are owned by the same company.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
I just hit 1.5 GB and I am now being throttled on ST ATT.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Dynotrick:
I had the strangest call with straight talk this morning.

Backstory: My data was cut off sometime Friday and when I finally got to an agent I was told that I had violated some terms of service for high data use and wouldn't help me (I'm a fairly light user, work from home so 90% of the time I'm home on wifi). Upset I called back later in the evening and got an immediate pickup by a US call center and the agent immediatly found the issue and reset my account. She made no mention of violation of terms of service or anything else. Things were fine over the weekend and yesterday but then last night I got cut off again.

This morning I called in and was run through the troubleshooting script for quite awhile and then finally the agent started telling me that the service was capped at 1.5GB and I was cut off. Of course I argued with him that the service I bought is 'unlimited'. He insisted that this is no longer true and they are in the process of contacting users and sending texts. :confused: I said that I had heard the announcement from net10 but nothing for straight talk and he told me it was the same policy now since it's the same parent company. I asked to speak to a supervisor since this was obviously an unacceptable situation since I paid for 'unlimited' data.

So the manager starts over with me and runs through the APN settings yet again :rolleyes: and then when everything checks out she goes into my account and tells me that it's missing the data profile. She resets that, I reboot the phone, and everything works again.

Since I apparently have a manager on the line I decided to ask some questions on what I had been told a few minutes earlier by the other agent. She said that straight talk is unlimited, no cap, and everything would work fine now. When I pushed the question a little she still told me that there was no cap and the service is truly unlimited. :confused: No explanation as to why I get told two opposite things on the same call in the same morning.

We'll see how it goes since my service date doesn't reset until Sunday.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
You can argue with them all you like about the meaning of unlimited data it still doesn't change the fact the cap is 1.5GB as set by AT&T and you will get throttled by AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Throttled and cut off are two different things though. Being cut off would violate the "unlimited data" portion, being throttled wouldnt.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Man I'm glad I get excellent T-Mobile coverage in Vegas. Lol.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Same here in Atlanta, 17MB/s down and no concerns about this throttling yet.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
I am assuming he thought he was cut off as EDGE 2G is extremely slow and it appears as if you have no data service when in fact you do. Typically they terminate your service outright with no notice for violating the terms of the contract so if he still could make calls he wasn't cut off. The ST contract when I initially signed up said high speed data capped at 5GB, unlimited thereafter at 2G speeds. Its pretty standard industry wide so I don't know why people have problems with it.

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Go out of town about 2 miles and see how great their service is.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
I don't go out of town. I'm fully aware they have like zero coverage in rural areas.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Dynotrick:
no cut off as in

Mobile Network Type: UNKNOWN:0

Mobile Network State: Disconnected

voice still worked fine though. This is in Dallas so no issues with signal. ;)

definitely throttled regardless though. getting between 200kb and 1mbps on HSPA+15.

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Until straight talk makes their own announcement like net10 did AND revise their advertising / TOS then unlimited better mean unlimited. :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Straight talk is unlimited, though att controls the data that goes to your phone. Straight talk doesn't limit you, att does. St has no control over this. If you think about it, that's why t mobile customers are having no problems while att users are getting cut left and right
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
I'm cut off too, NOT throttled. I was down to about 100-200k now nothing. I get HSPA+ where I'm sitting and this is my network currently. APN the same, data on obviously. Voice/text work.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
The gray bars means your not connected to Google's services not that you don't have any service all together.

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But you are getting unlimited data its just at 2G speeds, no where in the TOS does it say anything about guaranteeing 4G or even 3G service.
[Nexus 4 General] Dynotrick:
Look in Settings > About Phone > Status for the following:

Mobile Network Type: UNKNOWN:0

Mobile Network State: Disconnected

If you see that then you are cut off. Call in until you get an agent that will reset your data profile. Don't take no for an answer.

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no cut off as in no connection is unacceptable. if it was only throttling then i would agree with you ;)
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
The more I read ST's TOS the more inclined I am to just bite the bullet and move to AT&T all together. I mean is saving $20 a month really worth the hassle.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
You can download and install att smartwifi app it works.

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Well I was rather reluctant to mention this discovery thinking people would probably start abusing it once they caught on and cause them cut supply..

Anyone else receive a replacement att st micro Sim lately?

Well mine came, it's dark blue and the leaflet says to go to net10sim.com or startighttalksim.com depending on which I'm using...

GL YMMV
[Nexus 4 General] Dynotrick:
I was doing some math last night and if you get 4 or more lines on the 10GB data share you can get under $60/mo per phone. 5 or more lines on the 15GB deal gets down to around $60 also. Before taxes and fees of course, could be worth looking into if you have some family on ATT.
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
Yep that's what I'm seeing. Don't know if I'll even bother with calling, I've had nothing but bad experiences with their customer service. I've almost decided to just go with Tmobile's GoSmart, I'd rather have true unlimited even though I only get 2g or less on their network where I live..
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
No family. The cheapest pre-paid individual plan is $65 before taxes for unlimited talk and text and 1 GB of data. I suppose 1 GB isn't much different from 1.5 GB when you don't use much data. Would like to see if the signal quality is any better if you're actually paying for AT&T service. I have decent signal but it could be better. The thing I'm worried about with ST is somehow violating their sketchy TOS and getting terminated and losing my number and then having to deal with the nightmare their customer service is.
[Nexus 4 General] NYZack:
Sorry if this is a dumb/obvious suggestion, but have you tried rebooting your phone? A lot of N4 owners have reported data interruptions that have to do with the kernel/OS and not with the data provider.
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
Was going to get Straight Talk today but changed my mind and got T-Mobile Truly Unlimited Pre-paid. Glad I did!

Edit: I love in the city. Dallas TX.

[ LG NEXUS⁴ / ROOTBOX / FAUX / POETIC BLK BUMPER / APEX PRO / TAPATALK PRO ]
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Man if I could almost tolerate people in real life I'd move to a city but I just can't seem to... Haha
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Finally after a week if bogged down speeds and at least 5 calls to straight talk I've got NY speeds back to normal. Very happy its fixed though not very happy it took me a week to get the issue resolved .

In case anyone needs it here is a number to actually get ahold of a representative since the normal number is almost impossible.

(888) 251-8164
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Does anyone know, is it billing cycle or month regarding the throttling? My question is if I bought a 6 month plan for a discount but got throttled in month 1 would I be cleared after that month or for the entire 6 month plan?

Im trying to go as cheap as possible. I found that I basically collect enough points on Citi to get a Wal-Mart gift card to get the ST $45 plan and have a few $ to spare every month. So baiscally using my rewards points to pay my phone bill. However if I lump them into larger plans then I have more left over. I could save a bit more.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
They told me it would not reset until my next refill... YMMV
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
So Straight talk or net10, T-Mobile byop?

Considering it's easier to find net10 Sims and discounted refill pins.. What's your thoughts?
[Nexus 4 General] NYZack:
Not hard to find Straight Talk stuff on walmart.com last time I checked. You can easily cut regular sim to micro sim. Straight Talk cheaper than Net10 and gives you AT&T option (unlike T-Mobile obviously).

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(And if you look a few pages back you'll find a website folks have mentioned for discount Straight Talk pins.)
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
*cough* http://www.crazygametime.com/item/straight-talk-prepaid-airtime-refill-pin-us-45-30-day/ *cough**cough*
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Yeap saving $3 no tax is nice. Ebay has both refills fairly cheap. Net10 can also be found on other sites like calling mart. St gives $2.50 and net10 $5 off for auto pay as well.

It was nice getting 3month refill for $126 at Walmart, now they are $130+taxes..

Found telcel option at $45 a month too...

Problem with at&t byop I'm getting "access denied" more often opening URLs now. Reboot fixes it but...
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
Amazing, got through immediately. I was on the regular line for 20 minutes before hanging up and trying this, whether or not it solved anything is to be determined though.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Do they refill or actually send you a pin? I'm wanting the pin to use to activate an account, it would be nice to save a few bucks at the get go.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
They email you a pin instantly
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Awesome thanks for the quick reply, faster answer than asking them directly.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
I'm addicted to xda :P
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
So I decided to switch from Tmo/Walmart $30 plan to st tmo. Bought a pin from crazy got the email before I closed the page. Went on st site to port and activate. Input everything by the time I got through reading some of the APN and info my phone popped up a requester to login to T-Mobile data. Bars went gray. So I switch Sims and restarted. As soon as the n4 booted I got a incoming text.. Process took 5-10mins.. So far what I noticed is in the same spot I have 0-1 signal bars in 3G but when it boosts to H it shows 2-3 bars. Also another thing I noticed is the data boost from 3G to H is much quicker than it was on tmo prepaid..

Tmo visual voicemail and activity/account don't work anymore. So it's not seeing itself as an actual tmo device. Att apps worked using st att Sim as if it was an actual att account/device.
[Nexus 4 General] cgulliver:
I'm in Atlanta on att. No h+ so may switch to TMo.
[Nexus 4 General] mario24601:
Mine always just saws H no +
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Yes, I've never seen H+ on my N4. But you can check; about phone status to see what type of connection you're on.
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Mine never shows any plus, just switches between 3g and H automatically.

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It's night and day. The only caveat is its impossible to have Google Talk as your voicemail.
[Nexus 4 General] ghafil:
Great.
[Nexus 4 General] AshtonTS:
Stock doesn't show h+, it only shows h. CM will differentiate between the two, but for whatever reason stock doesn't

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] dirtfarmer7:
I ordered a N4 on Friday, and I also ordered a sim card from ST's website. If the N4 gets here before the sim it will drive me insane not being able to use my new phone. Can I just buy one of those $20 straight talk flip/feature phones from walmart, remove the sim, cut it down, and activate the sim in my N4? The sims that are packaged with those flip phones aren't some how permanently married to the feature phone are they? I've had a CDMA phone since the early nineties so I'm not familiar with using sims.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
No, cutting the Sim card only allows it to fit into the Sim tray on the N4. It has nothing to do with network speeds.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
None of the phones available at Walmart brick and mortar have a useable Sim. I think the cheapest you can buy is a refurb off straight talk's site for $50 is the Nokia e71 which uses st/att sim. If you ordered a Sim plus refill card, those usually get shipped quicker..
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
OK received two Telcel America Sim cards. Pink card tracfone logo on top right, part number TF64PSIMT5B, same as the one I ordered directly from straight talk.

Also received two "net10" regular sized Sims on a dark blue card. These are "gemplus" Sims with 5 extra contact points on the edges.. Part number TFSIMT5. I've not had a full size blue card one, if anyone can confirm part numbers.

The Sim serial numbers are similarly enumerated as my original st Sims.

Here's a speed test after recently switching from $30 tmo to st st tmo;
[Nexus 4 General] FatalDestroyer:
The Worse Experience Today

Boy did I sure have the most horrible experience today with Straight Talk today. Account reset is for the 11th every month, so its been 7 days. Ive used an estimated of 166mb data since the 11th. I noticed on the 12th I was throttled or much slower speeds. I thought I would let it ride for a few days. To no avail today I decided to call. I called 6 different times and was informed that I had broken the terms of service and my account data speed was flagged. No one would fix this, and I ended up getting transferred all six times to a "special data usage" department to help me with my problem. All six times it was only a recording of how to manage my data usage and it hangs up at the end with no live human to be heard.

This is also interesting today a new development. I thought Straight talks data usage for a day was estimated at 100mb a day. Well today one of the ever so friendly representatives told me it was 30mb a day. Is this old news, or ill informed employees? I know a lot of their literature in the terms on data is all jibber jabber and ****.

Any help or input would be awesome. I spend all day stressing and researching this problem and I have found that several people this month have had the same problem. Its like they had no true justification or full reasoning to do this to my account. I even asked them for the reason I was flagged and what terms I broke, and none of them gave me a straight answer.

Thanks guys