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[7" Kindle Fire HD General] F@@dog:
Yeah it goes without a hitch BUT, I have a thought provoking question for everyone putting up with this nonsense from Amazon. Play along with me on this one:

1. How many of you rent your Kindle HD from Amazon?

2. How many of you Lease your Kindle HD from Amazon?

3. How many of you are just borrowing your Kindle from Amazon?

Hmmmmm

4. How many of you OWN your Kindle Fire HD 8.9 outright?

Aaa haaa

OK, Now think about this:

Microsoft learned a long time ago to ASK before sending refresh or updates to owners computers.

Lenovo, IBM, Dell, HP, AST, Gateway and a host of others KNOW that they must either get the user to opt-in or they ASK if they can install an update.

Uh Huh..... Annnnnd?

If Amazon does not OWN our Kindles, what RIGHT do they have to modify our PROPERTY?

Answer: Class Action Law Suite!

Ohhhh, Oh Yeah!!

Amazon has successfully been sued over book pricing for the Kindle. Is it time someone in this group started looking for a hungry Ambulance

Chaser or what have you that would love to make some money on our cause? All we want is to have our devices left alone so that only we can fondle them, RIGHT???

F@@ddog
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] ZilverZurfarn:
Well, I think it's not that clear cut. Yes, we bought the tablet from Amazon, but at a price subsidized by Amazon, who sells it as a sales channel, not a gp tablet, and of course want it to stay that way. So, while very irritating, I (and I guess most of us) fully understand why. That is not to say an option to install their updates or not wouldn't go amiss.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Hashcode:
The only real way to "own" the Kindle Fire and be able to use it the way you want is to put Android 4.2 on it and leave the Amazon ecosystem entirely.

:)
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] F@@dog:
4.2? !!!! :cool:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Geekybiker:
I didn't sign a sales contract that gave them any rights after purchase. Even subsidized phones where you *do* sign a contract you can do what you want with them. From Amazon's point of view I can see why they want automatic updates, but they really should have a setting that you can turn them off or ask to install them. Its always fun when my computer reboots without asking me and a lose what I was doing.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] jesslynh:
Ummm...Amazon wasn't sued over book pricing--the publishers were, lost and are in the process of adjusting. Amazon was sued by the blind over access on it's various Kindle readers.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] MifuneT:
We own the hardware, but only have a license to use Amazon's modified OS. The OS, for all intents and purposes, is integrated into the hardware by means of locked bootloader. You cannot buy the Kinde Fire HD hardware without including Amazon's tailored OS. Amazon retains every right to do what it wants with the OS. You retain every right to buy different hardware, and/or return your purchase.

Unfortunately, this rock and hard place means until we have a way of unlocking the bootloader and using our own ROMs, we're at the mercy of Amazon for the time being.

While pushed/forced OTA updates are an annoyance, it doesn't cause me any huge grievances. Suggesting a class action lawsuit is just plain silly and immature. I'm very satisfied that I was able to inexpensively obtain some very choice hardware with the Kindle Fire HD 8.9". I'm also very satisfied that I can already root it and do a lot of customizations, while still retaining access to the breadth of Amazon's services. If this means I have to be patient while hardware hackers find a way to fully integrate custom software, then so be it.

Amazon wasn't sued for ebook pricing either, it was Apple and e-book publishers who colluded to keep prices high. Amazon and Amazon customers wound up being benefactors in this case, in the form of small refunds.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] no99sqrd:
Couple tips - sorry if these have been posted

A couple things I found:

1) If you have ever connected your Kindle before, uninstall the driver and re-install it. Otherwise it won't recognize it in adb

2) Run the root batch program from the cmd prompt, NOT by double-clicking from explorer - it simply won't work!

3) Don't try it hungover! :p

HUGE thanks to the OP and Bin4ry (yes, I bought him a beer!) :highfive:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] DignityIsMine:
Kindle:D

this is the best way to root thanks..
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] dcandler209:
Kindle fiire hd 8.9

Can anyone show a video of this method with a kindle fire hd 8.9
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] jmoak:
I just wanted to point out that option 1 works and is easier than option 2.

I've previously used option 2 too root my 8.9. Since I had to root again after the last update 8.1.4, I decided to try option 1. It worked and has less reboots and less work evolved. No entering terminal emulator commands.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] cheif_of_smoke:
can some on send me the bat file? my computer will not let me download it. thanks.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] deck82:
Got this finally working! Had issues with getting ADB to recignize the Fire. I was able to "fix" the drives as mentioned in the link below and found it first try!

http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/12/13/how-to-install-kindle-fire-adb-usb-driver/
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] onemeila:
I've tried option 1 numerous times, always unsuccessful. Are you sure you had lost root. A couple of resets ago I downgraded to 8.1.3 and when it updated it removed superuser.apk from system apk's but not the su binary. It would be nice if option one could work as I think there is a lot of unnecessary processes with option 2. Can anyone else confirm option one works from this method?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mdblaze:
Option 1 has never worked for me either...
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] jmoak:
I guess that could be the case but I got the update to 8.1.4 and also did a factory reset after. Would a factory reset remove su? I guess I just assumed it did.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] jmoak:
Thanks for clearing that up.

I got the OTA update to 8.1.4 and was able to reroot using option 1.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] dathay:
Amazon shop has stopped working

So I rooted and that went smoothly.

Installed Google Play and was happy.

Then within 24 hours, Amazon Shop suddenly stops working. I have tried everything I can think of, rebooting, etc... but no dice, I cannot get back into the Amazon Store (I want to do this for access to books under my Prime account). I ran into this the first time I rooted it and called Amazon for support and they had me do a factory reset but that wipes everything. Once I reinstalled I seem to have ended up in the same boat. Does anyone have any suggestions?

:confused:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mdblaze:
Try unregistering and then reregistering the kindle in the my account settings.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Rjosro:
two days of research and no go

Alright. I have spent two days trying to figure this method out, im using a kindle fire hd 8.9 on firmware 8.1.4

after a hassle of getting the ADB drivers to finally work, and get a serial code, i attempted to use this method. (os is windows 8 if that helps)

i select option 2, then option one for root and get:

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

and it just hangs there indefinitely ;

I have also tried the manual rooting method and get the classic permission denied error that nobody seems to have found a work around for when running the command:

rm -r /data/local/tmp

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other useful info:

i am running everything as admin, and have ALSO TRIED the qemu method (which also runs that command and gets access denied)

can anyone assist?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] perdevnull:
It was mentioned somewhere that you MUST replace the adb.exe from SDK.

So reboot or open taskmanager and kill adb.exe. If you not, then old adb.exe still running in the memory as a service!

Download android SDK, and copy the adb.exe to the folder "stuff" where the code of root has been extracted, and replace the old adb.exe.

Now you can run the RunMe.bat.

The qemu was not necessary for my, I got root access with the step #1.

Good luck.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Rjosro:
well, im closer

thanks so much for that tip, it did get me a lot further, now the issue i run into is that when i get to the part where runme tells me to enter some commands on the kindle itself, i get some errors

with /data/local/tmp/onload.sh i get:

unable to chmod /data/local/tmp/mkdevsh: Operation not permitted.

with /data/local/tmp/onload2.sh i get:

unable to chmod /data/local/tmp/remount.sh: Operation not permitted.

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the computer side lets me continue, and installs superuser on the kindle, does that mean its still a success?

id also like to note nothing else is added besides superuser
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mdblaze:
Yes that is normal. If superuser is there, than you are rooted correctly.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] sullytrny:
Same thing here , just keep going, I think mine rebooted two more times
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mzunlhabed:
cannot get it to work

I have the kindle fire hd 8.9 and I rooted it already and Super SU is already on kindle but I have no idea how to run the google play store etc. I'm super new at this and would absolutely love the help! thank you!!!!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] ZilverZurfarn:
There's a thread for that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1893410
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] dathay:
Tried that. No dice. :eek:
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Rjosro:
thanks

id like to thank you guys for the assistance, i am now successfully rooted and hate the google store, all is well with the world! looks like the trick WAS swapping out the adb file, i hope you help out more people with that info than just me!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] aaron.lim1:
i ran the Kindie Fire Utility to try to root my KINDLE FIRE HD 8.9 and now it will not turn on. Should have read the warning first but I reached the page through google link so I could not have seen the warning.

I also tried http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2011126 but its not able to recognise the device. When I press all 3 buttons and plug in into my Windows there is a unknown device OMAP4470 with a yellow warning and no drivers installed.

Please help!!! I just got this imported to my country yesterday so there is no way I can send it back. It wont turn on, no boot loop...
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] gquesadau:
KFHD 8.9 system version

Could you confirm which system version is your KF HD ? I have tryied the process with version 7.2.3 but ever receive a Permission denied notice and can not root.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mdblaze:
This thread is for the KF HD 8.9. The versions for it are 8.X.X

I do not know if anyone has had success rooting a HD 7 with this tool, I do not think so.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] gunnyman:
I attempted this this evening with vmware on my mac. I got drivers installed from the link in this thread, but adb devices shows nothing and starting the batch file it just hangs once it starts. On the Mac, adb devices sees the KFHD.

is there something special about the adb in the kindle fire dev kit? Do I need to install it?

I noticed there's a Run.Me.sh file in zip file, but running it on the mac in terminal gave me unable to execute command errors.

What am I missing? I hate how a new device makes me feel like a noob again :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] PostMark13:
SuperSU not working

So I managed to get my Kindle Fire HD 8.9 rooted and the SuperSU app showed up, but it doesn't appear to be working. I've installed several apps and nothing has popped up to enable super user access. Is there something I'm not doing right? The root went exactly as it was supposed to, and SuperSU has Superuser enabled, it's just not doing anything.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] steeeeevo:
stuck

I'm stuck. I have all the SDK stuff updated. I have the Kindle drivers installed. I run the .bat file and get "Tablet S Mode Enabled!" and nothing else. "ADB devices" is showing nothing. Help?

In device manager, I'm showing KINDLE>Android Composite ADB Interface

Thanks for any next steps.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] sullytrny:
Run the top option(1), tablet mode does not work for me either
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mdblaze:
Have you tried opening and then closing the Super user app? This sometimes happens.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] gunnyman:
finally got it to work I had to use the adb from the sdk rather than the one bundled with the exploit. Once I did that adb devices saw my KFHD and all was well. :) Guess I just needed to sleep on it
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] PostMark13:
I've done that and I've rebooted and it still appears to be doing nothing. I also sideloaded the SuperSU app from the Google Play store and that still doesn't appear to be doing anything. Would I be best off unrooting it and then re-rooting it?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] som1e:
I have been trying to get the android adb composite drivers onto my kindle fire hd 8.9 (8.1.4) for the past few days with no luck. I can only get the kindle to read android adb interface. I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I was also wondering what you were using to root your kindle

Thanks
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Root and Google Play for Amazon Kindle Fire HD 8.9"

som1e,

If you go to our link below, the method works flawlessly on the Kindle Fire 8.9".

We have created simple instructions regarding the Root process and a short video

on How to: Install the ADB Driver using the Manual Method.

Send us a message if you are still stuck after reviewing our guide. Please download

our Utilities.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] YMichurin:
Same issue: super user installed, and google play allowed me to put in my credentials but when it goes to the accept license screen it says google play stopped, and shuts down. The applicatins are there in my apps but don't work. What do we do next?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] bnaivar:
When my sideloaded apps give me the "...has stopped" message, I've found that if you delete the app and reinstall the app, it works.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Google Play Store "Suddely Stops"

YMichurin,

This is a common issue with the older version of the Google Play Store. If you take the attached Vending.apk

move it to /system/app then change the permissions to: User: Read Write Group: Read Others: Read.

After this click on /system/app/Vending.apk to install the Play Store. When done, launch Play Store in /Apps,

sign in and agree to the license, then immediately close the Play Store. Last install the attached

Phonesky.apk to upgrade the old Play Store to the latest 3.10.10. This will resolve your problems.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mine260309:
It seems the latest firmware version 8.1.4 blocks the root process.

I'm currently unable to root my KFHD 8.9 with 8.1.4 firmware, the root process says:

* daemon started successfully *

2792 KB/s (314540 bytes in 0.110s)

pkg: /sdcard/tmp/Term.apk

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INSUFFICIENT_STORAGE]

3301 KB/s (1085140 bytes in 0.321s)

2088 KB/s (91980 bytes in 0.043s)

3379 KB/s (996704 bytes in 0.288s)

2764 KB/s (469980 bytes in 0.166s)

mkdevsh

onload.sh

onload2.sh

packages.xml.sed

remount.sh

VpnFaker.apk

_su

rm failed for /data/data/com.android.settings/a/*, No such file or directory

Please look at your device and click "Restore my data"
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mdblaze:
It is still working, even on 8.14. Pay no attention to anything else that the tool says except for when it tells you to input the two lines into the terminal on the kindle. You will get permission denied and unsuccessful throughout the process.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] JuannTwo3:
When typing in the lines in the terminal emulator I get Operation not permitted. Any ideas? Im on 8.14

EDIT: I just skipped typing in the lines and everything else worked. Rooted KF 8.9. Now just to wait for roms :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] Androidaholic:
Kindle Fire HD 8.9 Root !

Just thought I would share my experience with this so Some people may get some ideas on what might work for them. First of all I tried the first method in the first post of this thread the root many android BIn4ry tool and had no luck the first few times using option 2 for the tablet. Then finally it worked rebooted twice and everything seemed to be fine but did not install superuser so I side loaded it and still nothing. I kept getting the adb driver is out of date off and on. I reinstalled the adb drivers from several sources a couple of times while doing this but was still getting the message. So finally with my Kindle connected I went to device manager to check adb and updated it from there with the microsoft web search option. Then I thought I would try the latest version where you start with option 1 of Bin4ry tool (Xco method by prokenexusa) and what do you know it worked and installed super user su and I never had to do the second step with the other tool (Qemu). I did un install the Amazon drivers from my hard drive by going in to computer opening the drive but as soon as I plugged my Kindle back in windows would re install them. I read somewhere to do that in another forum. Bottom line is I was having problems until I updated adb drivers through device manager using the windows web search method. I even had lost the ability to see my Kindles internal storage for a while after using the BIN4ry tool but after I updated through windows driver search everything worked perfect.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] mine260309:
OK, you're right! Although there're a lot of "errors" and "permission denied" logs, after the whole process, my KFHD 8.9 is ROOTED! And all the stuff is restored. Great!

So I can confirm that the tool IS WORKING on 8.1.4 as well.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Root and Google Play for Amazon 7" Kindle Fire HD Software Version 7.2.3

mine260309,

Odd isn't it. You would not expect it to work but it does. Some of the errors are due to

a missing path statement in Windows but unnecessary unless you are using a domain.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] YMichurin:
"vending.apk copy failed" as I do Post operation. What is wrong?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Error - vending.apk copy failed

YMichurin,

This is usually due to a Permissions issue. Are you using ES File Explorer?

Go into ES File Explorer Settings > Root Settings and check every box in

Root Settings be sure to 'Allow' when you see the Superuser request.

This will solve the Copy Problem.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] YMichurin:
Thanks, it works.

However I stuck on other issue: every time I run this Vending.apk from system/apps it says "Vending.apk install successfully" and when I back to App folder, Google Play Store is gone!

When I install it again (version is 3.8.17) and do the steps you proposed again, same thing - no more Play store in the app list

Instead there is Android Market, and I can run it, however it says "Market closed" as soon as I try install any app
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Google Play Store Upgrade 3.10.10

YMichurin,

Hmmmmm, the Vending.apk is the old Android Market which is indeed closed. When you install

the Gplay apk this upgrades it to 3.8.17. Try installing the attached Phonesky.apk
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] YMichurin:
Installed this Phonesky.apk, Play Store closes with the same error, can not run it. May be problem with the file, Where can I download other version of it?
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Google Play Store - "Google play store has stopped"

YMichurin,

It is not the file, we have over 200 downloads a day on that file plus we use the files everyday.

The server that manages the apk's checks the integrity of all apk's in Real Time, having said this,

there is no real chance of a problem with the integrity, quality or corruption of the apk.

Besides, I gave you the Phonesky.apk from a separate location to the original Phonesky.apk.

I wish your problem was as easy as a simple apk, it is not. When this happens, it is always best to:

Remove and reinstall everything Google, that is not Amazon.

I would remove GoogleServicesFramework.apk, AccountAndSyncSettings.apk

and GoogleLoginService.apk from /system/app. Then go to the Amazon Uninstall service

make sure everything Google is removed. I would then remove Vending.apk from /system/app

and then make sure there is nothing in the Amazon Uninstall service that says Google. Finally,

reboot, then go back to the Amazon Uninstall Service and make sure there is nothing Google.

If the Amazon Uninstall Service is clean, then go back to our tutorial and start from the top!

I know this is time consuming but it guarantees success. If you continue to have issues,

you will need to perform a system restore.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] kittyworld:
works!

I just want to say thank you prokennexusa for the rooting guide and utilities, and thank everybody here for sharing your experience. I have KF HD 8.9 w/ the latest firmware 8.14. I just want to chime in that I tried twice. the first attempt was messy because I didn't read the thread here. I only read the one from the original guide in the KF HD 7 thread. I was seeing all these errors and halted and second guessed and got really messed up. Then I came here to read what 8,9 users' experiences are and did it again. I re-installed adb driver just in case - copied from the Qmenu folder. I didn't have adb issues before but it wouldn't hurt to try again. OH, I did a factory reset too - probably helped me clean up the mess I created from previous attempts. Now w/ a clean slate and I ran the Bin4ry tools again. again lots of error msgs, but I ignored each and everyone of them.. At the end, I checked the App section and superuser is installed! I am so happy. Thank you prokennexusa for helping us out.

Let me repeat - IGNORE ALL THE ERRORS DURING THE PROCESS, SUCH AS NOT ENOUGH STORAGE, NO PERMISSION, THIS FAILED AND THAT FAILED ETC. AS LONG AS YOUR ADB DRIVER IS INSTALLED AND SHOWN UP RIGHT, YOU WILL BE FINE! Do not stop half way. complete the whole thing and have patience, especially after reboot - it takes time for the pc to reconnect to your kindle. So don't click "enter" when you are not told to do so. Follow the instructions on your CMD window exactly. At the end the reward is sweet.

p.s. when prompted for "restore", your kindle curser is pointing at the encryption password. Do not write down any pw. just ignore it completely and click "restore" button. I stalled here the first time and screwed things up.

It's late today so I will installed google stuff tomorrow. if I have any issue I will be back! Thanks to all of you whose posts helped me!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up - Feedback

kittyworld,

Thank you very much for taking the time to post feedback. This always helps everyone in the

XDA Community and love feedback. Have a wonderful 2013.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] YMichurin:
Ok, let me know please if understand you correctly:

after this clean up procedure you proposed above, I'm going to do the following:

1) Root my device again with the latest version of Bin4ry Root Tool (I'm selecting Option 2: Special) and ignore any errors

2) I'm moving Vending.apk to /system/app and grant it all possible permissions.

3) running it from there using same ES File Explorer, it will probably will show single message like "Vending.apk Install Successfully" with no additional dialog windows

4) Now I expect Google Play Store appeared on my Kindle in Apps section as an regular app, which did not happen before for some reason. I'm launching it, signing in and agreeing to the license.

5) I'm running Phonesky.apk to upgrade the Play Store to the latest 3.10.10.

Then it should start and work properly. Please correct me if something in this steps is wrong or missed.

Thanks!
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] prokennexusa:
Follow Up

YMichurin,

I made a slight change to #2.

You may take a peek at this tutorial for Rooting: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2069117

This one is for Google Play: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2069329

Thats it.
[7" Kindle Fire HD General] kittyworld:
Question: if I do a factory restore on my kindle will I have to re-root it? I screwed up the stock contact app.