yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] Laos101:
It's their API and protocol and the app profits purely off Pandora - plus i'm sure they're making their own app. Seems like grounds enough legally
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] netham45:
Normally I'd say yes, but they allow apps like pradio to exist on other devices (WP8, for example, has MetroRadio which has ads that I doubt go to Pandora, and it doesn't have commercials, Pithos and Pianobar exist as third-party Linux tools that don't have any ads whatsoever, there was a third-party Android client, except the author never bothered to update it)

I'm mostly just curious if there's something specifically in pradio that they didn't like, or if they just don't want competition on a new platform, or what.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] {StatuSCheckA}:
Its unfortunate that the app was pulled. The Developer was only trying to make his mark in the Windows 8 Store.

Either way I hope Pandora does release an official app. I highly dislike Google's and Facebook's approach saying "there is not enough market share so we wont make an app for XX platform".

Facebook said that about the Facebook iPad app and that came off badly.

Google recently said that when asked about an official Google Drive app for Windows 8.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] goldflame09:
i am also hoping for an official app but in the mean time i use grafitti, works as well if not better than pradio

this is the link for it

also no ads and unlimited skips
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] HipCat:
Try Metro Radio. It allows you to see what songs are going to be played next, unlimited skips and enables track seeking.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] crawform:
I've been using MetroRadio on my Surface Pro, but it stops playing when I turn the screen off. Anyone figure out a way to have it keep playing in the background while the screen is off? Thanks.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] aooga:
Just a tip for anyone who had the same problem I did:

If you downloaded this app before it was pulled and now want to download it again on another device, you can just go into the "Your Apps" sections and redownload it. So it is still on microsoft's servers, they didn't really delete it. :)
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] pwner5889:
Why did they remove it in the first place!? It was a good app. :-/
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] sidn3y:
Can we get a download link since it's no longer in the app store?
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] goldflame09:
Other options: graffiti radio
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] jparnell8839:
only slight necromancy...

I guess they disabled that option. I have it on another computer that I (very fortunately) didn't wipe the Win8 partition off of when I decided it was going to be straight Fedora. is it possible to pull it from C:\Program Files\WindowsApps???

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hmmm, perhaps MicroScrewed removed it for me??? I do have a folder in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps called Deleted that i dont remember, and the app is no longer there....

Anybody have a working copy of the latest side-loadable??? or is that against XDA rules since Microsoft removed it from their store???
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Interesting, it's still present and working on my system.

I'm sure I've still got the APPX somewhere too (unless the developer themselves requests its removal I see nothing wrong with posting it) but I can't find it on this machine.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] firmol:
Thank you.... :->
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] danxmanly:
I have PRadio on a few W8 HTPC's I have built, but just built another one and when I went to install PRadio on it... found it is no longer available and then found this thread.

Pandora_0.0.4.8_AnyCPU_Test file is no longer available to download via any links on this thread, so sideloading is not even an option.

Anyone got a spare copy lying around? ;)
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] hsalps:
This is the last working edition of PRadio. Enjoy!
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] danxmanly:
Well... the Windows 8.1 upgrade has caused my original Pradio ap to quit working. Tried to reinstall using the side loading technique, and it says the applications certificate has expired. ( or something to that effect ).. and it will not install. No pradio is bumming me out..... metro radio is still working.. but I just like pradio gui better. Not much hope for an update for this thing being as you can't even find it in the W8 store any longer. Oh well.. just a heads up for those that use this, and are considering updating to W 8.1.

Update: updated my nvidia graphics driver and now Pradio is working again. I did manage to get around the certificates expiration issue when side loading Pradio by moving my date back a year or so. Just remember to move it back as it creates havoc in the windows store if you don't.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] guyin916:
not working =( any solutions?

Windows PowerShell

Copyright (C) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> set-executionpolicy unrestricted

Execution Policy Change

The execution policy helps protect you from scripts that you do not trust. Changing the execution policy might expose

you to the security risks described in the about_Execution_Policies help topic at

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=135170. Do you want to change the execution policy?

[Y] Yes [N] No Suspend [?] Help (default is "Y"):

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> cd E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test

PS E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test> .\Add-AppDevPackage.ps1

Security warning

Run only scripts that you trust. While scripts from the internet can be useful, this script can potentially harm your

computer. If you trust this script, use the Unblock-File cmdlet to allow the script to run without this warning

message. Do you want to run E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Add-AppDevPackage.ps1?

[D] Do not run [R] Run once Suspend [?] Help (default is "D"): r

Found package: E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU.appx

Found certificate: E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU.cer

Error: The developer certificate "E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_A

nyCPU.cer" has expired. One possible cause is the system clock isn't set to the correct date and time. If the system set

tings are correct, contact the package owner to re-create a package with a valid certificate.

Press Enter to continue...:

PS E:\Downloads\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test\Pandora_0.0.6.8_AnyCPU_Test>
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Well, you can try setting your system clock back a year (to before the certificate expired) but that probably won't work once you set it correctly again. Better would be to re-sign the app with your own cert instead...
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] guyin916:
I can only resign it if we had the project file to reconstruct the license. I went as far as installing VS 2013 Express. This is a big bummer. I can only use the app if I roll back the date.
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
Okay so for the last two weeks I have put myself on this case to find out why some people have bad performance of their batteries and why some don't even on roms that some say they have bad battery drain and some don't.

I've goggled this, asked people's opinions and did loads of tests with my Galaxy s3 to find out how to get the best performance of my battery and thought I'd share my findings.

Because the battery you have in your s3 has no memory you have to train your phone to know the exact consumption you have in your battery.

To do this you have to put your battery through a cycle, I do this by charging to 100% then to 1% and then back up again.

This trains your phone into knowing how much juice your battery has.

When flashing roms it is best to flash a rom at 100% then leave on charge for a few minutes as it saves time.

It's also best to do a cycle after flashing any rom.

If you flash a rom at 50% or in between 50% to 100% this confuses your phone and it doesn't know the full voltage of your battery so you might find when looking at your battery stats it gives two different readings and your battery will drain faster than normal.

I've also read to get the best performance it's best to do a few cycles.

Hope this helps some people and if you already know this then just ignore what I've said and have a nice day :)

Everything I've said I have tested and done research on because I was getting really upset with my battery performance.

Now I can relax and just enjoy my s3 :D
[Galaxy S III General] FinGerS o FuDgE:
Good tips. Didn't realise about flashing the roms when not fully charged could confuse the battery ;)
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
Yes it confuses the phone not battery, battery has no memory :D

Calibrating battery fixes this
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Battery actually has a memory but its a cell monitoring memory .

In that respect a full discharge and recharge should be carried out after every 25 or so small charges .

Their is an awful lot of false battery information or made up rules floating about on XDA .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
It's still best to cycle a battery and I read that it has no memory and here is screenshot after I flashed rom at less than 100%

Found this out yesterday, two different readings
[Galaxy S III General] JJEgan:
Like the OP i am not really sure what you are saying .

The rule has always been flash on 50% plus .

Reboot and use the phone after three or four charges battery is re calibrated .

Battery stats has no bearing on battery life or usage and resets itself after a near full charge .

jje
[Galaxy S III General] howard bamber:
You're not alone in pondering thus subject!

If I can not flash on a full charge I'll all ways do 2-3 full cycles after.

I also wipe the battery statistics before I flash a ROM.

Sent from the man hiding in your attic......
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
This is after a full cycle from 100% the battery still wasn't calibrated and still gave wrong readings
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
Yes resetting stats I think is essential if stats give wrong readings, probably doing after is better and at 100%
[Galaxy S III General] prabhjots:
Just my 2 cents..

Ive observed one thing.. after flashing a new rom I get dismal battery times.. at 95+% just after a charge I dial *#0228# which pulls up a battery status window.. tap quick start and I see a sudden drop in battery around 10-20%..

After this the battery performs steadily.. until I flash a new rom.. :)
[Galaxy S III General] IamIrene:
how about flash the ROM while charging ?

can't wait to flash wanamlite 5.0 :(
[Galaxy S III General] prabhjots:
Don't even try.. battery doesn't charge while flashing. Moreover if in the process of flashing the phone runs out of battery you end up with a brick.. your phone might become a quite expensive but beautiful paper weight. :)

This is why it is always recommended to have atleast 50% battery before flashing... Happy flashing :)

Hit Thanks if I helped you.
[Galaxy S III General] XenomorphXx121:
I flashed when charged and let it charge back up to 100% then unplug and my battery doesn't zoom down like it used to.

Before every time I flashed a rom I'd lose about 50% battery in about 2 hours.

You do need another cycle after though
[Galaxy S III General] b-eock:
It will charge while flashing... Dont know why you think it wont.

And you cannot HARD brick from flashing anything in CWM. CWM doesnt have the ability to flash something that will brick your phone.
[Galaxy S III General] eggman89:
Wow! !That's nice to know :)

Didn't know that .
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
According to iFixit, the Nexus 4 has a Qualcomm WTR1605L seven-band 4G LTE chip!

what!?!?!

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/2

Band 4 LTE confirmed!!!
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
yup! google just didn't tell us!
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
I bet you it would be activated when T-Mobile gets lte
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
does this mean 4g can/will be enabled later?!

wtf!

*waits for LTE enabled rom*
[Nexus 4 General] SunSDK:
I hope :D
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
I'm sure its just built in to the CPU.
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
highly doubt!
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
Nope! Completely separate IC!!

one can dream
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
i read that a chip maker was going to implement LTE radio into one chip. also, tmobile's LTE deployment will be a newer version than what verizon has, so ive read. i think it makes use of some sort of all-in-one chip. not too sure on that...
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
i remember reading somewhere that the Verizon's HTC DNA worked with T-Mobile. i think this might confirm the S4 pro's built in LTE may be.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
Yup! Tegra/Qualcomm/Intel are all working on it!
[Nexus 4 General] Thoughtful:
So, my main question is. How will we be able to use the chip if at all? Also why would Google have the chip in there and not use it?
[Nexus 4 General] abissel22:
He's right. It says it has Qualcomm LET chip. Maybe the newer Qualcomm processors have the radio implemented. Let's keep our fingers crossed
[Nexus 4 General] pack21:
And also has a ANX7808 SlimPort® transmitter?

And also has a ANX7808 SlimPort® transmitter (HDMI output converter) ?

what that mean?
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
if this really is a LTE chip that can work, google just future proofed their phone, without telling people. i bet if they were to announce it, there would be a huge fuss by the carriers, and google would be in a bad position
[Nexus 4 General] greenie25:
Future support for lte looks probable then.

But only if carriers across the world can sort out the damn mess that's become of lte
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
imagine mhl but also supporting vga, dvi, displayport etc.
[Nexus 4 General] Tomdarkness:
I can't figure out why they would put the chip on there and not list it as a feature. It would nullify one complaint by most reviewers and make the phone even more desirable.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
however, this LTE chip needs to work with the carrier's bands, looking at AT&T and T-Mobile here, since the N4 is a GSM phone. hopefully LTE will work in the N4
[Nexus 4 General] nicduim:
What! Does this mean it might be possible to use in the future on carriers like Verizon? I sure hope so
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
I'm curious as to where you got the radio firmware to run the lte modem?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] khaltire:
fully stock, 4.2 straight out of box (after software update)
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
I take it that means you only need one radio on GSM phones unlike Verizon where you need two separate radio files?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Mr. Manning, why are you so mean? It hurts :(
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Huh??? I'm asking a question that I don't know the answer to.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] HarbingerIV:
I seem to be getting LTE to be able to work as well. I didn't have to change any APN settings and I'm with Telus. I'll attach screenshots with a comparison between HSPA+ and LTE speeds and you can notice the icon changing from 4G to H.
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
What did you do then?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] khaltire:
please see proper thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2007943&page=8
[Nexus 4 General] ajftl:
I called that bs
[Nexus 4 General] HarbingerIV:
Phone App -> *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone information -> Select "LTE Only" from the list (it's above the button "Turn off radio")

At first I thought it was BS too, but it worked for me. I don't see how my screenshots don't verify that. All I know is that it'll work for sure for any Canadian on Telus. I heard people on AT&T couldn't get it to work so I'm not sure which carriers other than mine will work as well (I believe Telus is band 4 LTE?).

I'm so happy about this discovery! :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] khaltire:
don't be a dummy, obviously TELUS apn settings apply to HSPA and LTE. Just like Rogers LTE apn settings (once you have them, can work with HSPA)
[Nexus 4 General] JPowered:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXOY9EVZ4vA :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] ygvuhb:
anyone know which seven band support in the chip?
[Nexus 4 General] leobg:
Better do LTE/GSM (Auto PRL) so it can go down to 3/2G as well if necessary.

For Rogers users you need to change APN to 'ltemobile.apn' and make sure you've got LTE sim. Telus/Bell - no need to change apn, but LTE sim is required.
[Nexus 4 General] HarbingerIV:
Thanks for the advice. I saw that setting and I am planning on doing a full test for it either tonight or this weekend. Someone on another thread was asking me for my APN settings as he was having a problem with MMS apparently (I've only tested and confirmed that data works when LTE Only is enabled). I did recommend him to try the setting you stated to see if that potentially fixes the issue as I don't know for sure if it would.

Cheers.
[Nexus 4 General] parker7:
It might be an idea to see the tear down of the phone the nexus 4 is based on, to see what hard ware and antennas that has.
[Nexus 4 General] rptw:
this is the teardown, in step 17 it shows the LTE chip

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
[Nexus 4 General] peconaut:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/inactive-4g-chip-found-lurking-inside-the-nexus-4/

In that article it says it has band 4 (1700 MHz / 2100 MHz)!. .

So in this article its says that Tmobile will eventually get LTE and geta

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/022312-tmobile-lte-256493.html

So in theory does that mean you will be able to use LTE on the NEXUS 4 with T-Mobile network
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
Might explain tmobiles higher price.

...
[Nexus 4 General] Topgun966:
Where do you live?
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Would this become true? http://www.pc-tablet.com/11286-4g-lte-google-nexus-4-coming-price-rumors-349-8gb/

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
Its possible but not probable so if I were you I wouldn't wait for it

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Alicklee:
Lte works yeah just tested it with my bro telus lte sim

Sent from my blazing fast nexus 4 o yeah baby this phone is awesome
[Nexus 4 General] KevinChaos:
Damn you Canada I want lte on AT&T :(
[Nexus 4 General] mark manning:
T-Mobile is building their network as we speak. And according to them it is going to blow both Verizon and AT&T out of the water. Btw the N4 will be able to use it lol :p:p

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] EnIXmA:
Yup, lte working on my bell network too, just tested and got speeds in excess of 20 Mbps. However, it is a battery killer, am going to stick with H+
[Nexus 4 General] Cor-master:
Yeah the original standards were outrageous. Imo wimax, lte and hspa+ all our significant improvements over 3G and should be enough to be called 4G.

Really don't get the big deal about lte if you're on a network with hspa+. Cdma isn't capable of hspa+ so it's kind of a necessity for them, but me personally I would of rather seen at&t massively improve their 3G network and add support for hspa+ 42mbps then start over on another network that they'll never finish, but it's too late now
[Nexus 4 General] KevinChaos:
I'm pretty much stuck on AT&T due to my family plan and 1 more year on contract.
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
LG explains the existence of the LTE chip - http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-reason-behind-dropping-4g-in-nexus-4-1114611
[Nexus 4 General] burloak:
And our "Tech" press just posts the company pablum verbatim and without question.

anandtech had the stones (unlike ARS and others) to have a second look complete with testing and found that ALL the necessary hardware/firmware/software are already in the shipping handset for LTE Band IV.

That means the Nexus 4 hardware runs LTE on the same single band pair (1700/2100) and just as fast, far and wide across Canada as iPhone 5 does right NOW.

Come the new year it will start doing the same thing for T-Mobile customers in the US except they will potentially have even faster service on their single AWS (1700/2100) band pair vs a vs AT&T who so far have only deployed a SINGLE LTE frequency on the 700 band.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
I'll still be paying unlimited EVERTHING on two lines for 125.00 ;)

Let the LTE fun begin! It will also be faster than Sprint, AT&T and VZW. Gotta love it.
[Nexus 4 General] SS2006:
whats the verdict on battery life? n4 battery life is already mediocre, does the lte make it worse
[Nexus 4 General] burloak:
I havent seen much difference on mine just idling in the Koodo/Telus network. Not much transmission power used in that mode and if your in a simultaneous active voice and data scenario the data side falls back to 3g for the length of the call the same as legacy 3g handset behaviour and iPhone 5 (Canadian and AT&T versions)
[Nexus 4 General] leobg:
After 3-4 charge cycles, battery started to perform better. Below are couple of screenshots from today. Light to moderate use I'd say - 1.5h screen on and 45min calls. Syncing 2 exchange accounts and 2 google with push plus additional imap. GPS, bluetoot, WiFi and LTE on all the time. Screen on auto brightness.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I heard that lte would be locked with an update. I wonder if it has been locked already with the latest 4.2.1 patch. Has anyone checked?

sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my back ordered Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] nyvram1:
this is a software issue. check out the testing done on the franco and matr1c kernels by folks on here who have installed those. the battery life is MUCH MUCH better.

if google doesnt fix the battery issue by the next update, i'm going to root my phone and put a custom ROM on it.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Are you guys talking about battery life related to lte?

This is an lte thread. There are already battery life threads.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my back ordered Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] burloak:
Permanently locking our already shipped/received versions of the Nexus 4 LTE will be difficult if not impossible. All of the existing enabling firmware & software will by now have been archived by the XDA community. It will pretty well take a hardware change to block LTE access to the AWS bands at this point.

On the other hand maybe this is what Google was planning all along, to be ready for the TMobile LTE rollout and to disrupt the existing marketplaces in other aspects then just handset price.
[Nexus 4 General] nyvram1:
the question was about battery life after enabling LTE and i was pointing out that the existing battery life issues are getting sorted out so i dont see this as a barrier to enabling LTE for tmobile folks
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Everyone's talking like they're going to use this when T-Mobile gets lte, sure there's compatibility built into the soc but there's no antenna. Most people won't get service unless they're right next to the tower. It was just cheaper to use the chip from the optimus g than to rebuild an entirely new chip for the n4
[Nexus 4 General] KevinChaos:
Tell that to the Canadians who are using lte just fine without being "right next to the tower".
[Nexus 4 General] cturbos:
sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-lte-official

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/2694133/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-lte-official

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