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[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Lol... Ok all I can do is laugh. Most know I advocate straight talk, it's price for service most of the time.

But yesterday messing with my wife's iphone I erased the app that edited the custom apn allowing her to access the internet without sim swap or jailbreak.

So for that second I turned on the nexus 4's tether to allow the iphone access to blackwireless.com to download the h20 config app that make a custom apn with the att.mvno setting instaed of unlockit.nz one. Her iPhone is also on straight talk service.

Today I'm throttled.... Haha! This is my last day before refill too... Humm.. Time to rethink?
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Lame. I dropped Straight Talk like a bad habit. They just aren't reliable enough for me. If I knew without a doubt precisely when they would throttle me, I could manage that. But when it's so random it's just not something I want to deal with.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
hmmm.... maybe that's what gets you throttled instantly, tethering. i remember the night before I was throttled, I tethered my data to an iPod touch that I had just gotten fixed, just to make sure the WiFi was working. I only tethered it for maybe 2 minutes, just long enough to open the browser on the iPod and Google something, that was it. next morning... throttled.

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same here, i hate having to worry about how I use my data. 2 more days and I activate my solavei sim and this st sim goes in the garbage:beer:
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I'm usually an avid pusher of the pros of their service. I feel it's my duty to fairly report when there's cons too.

Well I'm on my last day of my latest 3 month refill. Suddenly my data is super slow, simple mobile slow...

I opened a ticket and the reply says I've been throttled for violating the policy portions 6 &7..

Funny thing is the reason it happened was I was having issues lately with pages initially taking a while to load. But data speeds were still at 6/1mbs. I edited my apn to include the previously removed proxy setings to see if that made a difference. It did, pages resolved and loaded fast again with the proxy settings set. I had been using it without problems for 6 months without proxy settings. I then edited the default mvno proxy and used 66.209.11.32:80 instead and it worked, even better results. But the next day started getting access denied messages loading google search. So I set it back to 66.209.11.33:80 and forgot it.

I was testing my wife's iphone also on straight talk and data worked great. But decided to remove unlockit's apn app, then install blackwireless/h20's apn app instead.

Well sily me deleted the unlockit app and had no net access on her phone to install the other app. So I enabled the n4 hotspot to share it's connection, so I could get her phone working again. Worked fine. H20 apn app works at getting att.mvno set without a sim swap or jailbreak. Cool I thought.

Today my data is slow as molasses... Six months on this without issues, trying not to break their rules. Bam!

So beware, it's not just how much data you use, but how they deem you're breaking policy. Phone reports that I used a total of 382mb from dec 31 to jan 7 on this 2nd n4 and I used about the same on my 1st n4. Which rounds out to less than 1gb...

YMMV

Edit: how many youtube? Or stream anime?
[Nexus 4 General] Selmak:
I wonder if there is anyway for Straight Talk to tell if I am tethering to my Galaxy Tab 2 tablet. Since both are Android, and both using basically the same software. Often when I go out for food at a diner or restaurant I will surf the web on my phone while waiting for the food to arrive. Sometimes I take the tablet along, and use that instead. If the place I am at has wifi I'll use it, but if not I'll tether off the phone. Realistically this should make no difference to Straight Talk since either way I'm using the same amount of data on their service. But since they don't view it that way I guess I'm taking a risk if I get caught. I'm thinking they wouldn't know though since my user agent would basically show the same thing with either device.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I tethered my nexus 7 to my nexus 4 and an iphone with straight talk service to my nexus 4 on straight talk(to download apn app of 842kbs to reenable data connection) they were able to "tell".. YMMV

It seems as their providers drop unlimited, they (att) put the squeeze on them and they have to put the squeeze on us.

Edit: ok so those of you that considered st that went elsewhere, what provider did you chose & hows it working for ya so far? Same for those that left st becuz of throttling, what you switch to?

I was looking at blackwireless but it hardly has data and starts getting pricy. Also solavei seems to be a multi level pyramid scheme.. But without getting into the mln portion perhaps the service alone is ok, is its data really unlimited?
[Nexus 4 General] Selmak:
Well I can see them noticing when you tethered the iPhone since your OS on the Nexus is obviously Android, and the user agent on the iPhone browser would show Safari. That is going to throw a red flag. But tethering your Nexus 7 the Nexus 4 I would think would be very hard to tell since the browsers are the same. This is why I'm wondering if this is how I'm getting away with it.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Sure, that's why i point out the iphone is also using straight talk. So essentially not breaking policy, but found myself throttled the next day.

Thing is the device using the connection has its own ip and mac address, im sure its more complex then that but somehow it needs to know where to route your requests. That distinguishes itself and lets them know?
[Nexus 4 General] dcfella:
I signed up with Solavei without a sponsor. I went with them primarily because they have a clearer throttling policy(4 gb) . After 2 weeks, I'm fairly satisfied. Data speeds are much better than when I used AT&T and reception in the DC metro area has been pretty good. No regrets so far.
[Nexus 4 General] Selmak:
Yes but all that they would see on their end is that you used your Android device to tether to an iOS device. They would have no way of knowing that you were also paying for service with them on that iOS device. All that would have been apparent is that you accessed the web with a Safari user agent on an Android device. That's all they can see. Your iPhone mac address would not be visible to them. That would only be visible to your Nexus 4 itself. All Straight Talk sees is the Nexus 4 mac address, and the Safari user agent. Hence you got busted.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
That sounds right . I have been tethering my Nexus 7 to my N4 without any problems. I've been without a laptop for a few weeks but will be receiving my new one tomorrow. Not happy to hear that any laptop tether may end up with throttling.

I was on the Tmobile-30 plan for a few weeks, both my laptop and tablet tethered fine. Unfortunately, the no-roaming TM coverage in my area was so spotty (including voice) that I had to give it up.

I may have to go back to a contracted plan, though it is infuriating to get no breaks for having already pay more than full price for the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
I have AT&T ST and have used it to tether with my nexus 7. Both nexus devices are running Paranoid Android ROM. So far ST has not been able to tell. I only use to tablet to tethered when I am flight planning. It is nothing I can not do on my phone, but the tablet is much easier to use do to its size. I use less than a gig a month total so I am no it on their watch list.

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Other then wifi or some other internet connection, how would they expect you to access http://m.net10sim.com/view/page/p/106859/net10-data-settings-att for the iphone to gain data access without jailbreaking or sim swapping ;) btw again 842k apn app. Used less than 1gb total for the month.

I can honestly say I was quite happy with straight talks service until now. Did everything I needed and wanted to do for 6 months. It just seems as att tightens its reigns and st grows, they have to do the same..

Besides only was detected because I was dumb enough to leave in the proxy settings.. /point laugh at me

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My beef with solavei (monavei?) is it's a multi-level-network aka pyramid scheme. But if they can truly offer unlimited tmo 4g service at $45, and not suddenly disappear. With a defined data limit of 4gb, then it might be a viable alternative.

Edit: do they add taxes and fees?
[Nexus 4 General] alternetconcept:
I've been running ST for a few days now on T-Mobile network and I've been getting the same speeds as I was when on the 30$ T-Mobile plan. Speeds are pretty good in Westchester and NYC area. Liking them so far
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
The nice thing is you don't have to take part in the MLM side. Trust me, I hate that aspect of it and will never take part in it, but they have a clear defined 4GB at "4G" speeds and then throttled after that. I got the sim last month when the sim (now $9) was free as well as the activation fee. I've been trying it out for a few weeks and am a little more impressed with T-Mobile than when I tried them before. Speeds in Denver are phenomenal but where I live in Evergreen, it's either EDGE or HSPA that's only 300 kbps down. Att in Evergreen is 4-8Mbps down.

I'd say give them a try BC you don't have to do the MLM side, just get a good T-Mobile prepaid service with cond call forwarding (use GV, other T-Mo prepaids won't let you do that), 4GB of HSPA+ speeds, etc.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Nice! Conditional call forwarding is def. a big plus.

Thanks

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I'm also wondering if they are more forgiving tmo side than att.. Anyone know?
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
Im surprised you got everything working without putting anything in APN Type. But hey, whatever works right? Hope this helps other people out there, thanks for posting.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I haven't put anything in apn type either. Everything worked. Since it's the only apn on the phone it's the default for everything.

@bmoke

As for the disconnect connect issue. Something is wrong. Either network tower access in you area sucks or your phones radio is flaky. It shouldnt be fluctuating. You may have an app turning mobile data off and on. Perhaps a battery saver. But def. Not normal.

Edit: do you have another sim or access to one on another network to borrow and test your phone/radio. Though comes to mind your phone hasnt/ wasnt provisioned right and some towers arent allowing your phone access.. I remember having a similar issue with sprint.

Note: switching to 2g edge connection if you've been throttle gives you faster speed.. Lol
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
I never used APN type either. deleting it was the only way I could get data & MMS working on one APN
[Nexus 4 General] nikeman513:
Apparently more than 100mb a day you get throttled or up to 2gb. I use about 2-2.5 and have always averaged 4mbps download.
[Nexus 4 General] svengalis:
Not where I stay. :(
[Nexus 4 General] :
yeah, me either and I tried two different stores. I ended up ordering a sim online today. At least they're offering free overnight shipping...

I'll probably end up cutting the tmobile sim myself if I cant find a shop with a sim cutter locally
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Did u guys ask ? They'll never sell u a single Sim at Walmart it comes in the start up kit
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
Yeah, I've heard they will throttle after 100mb a day, but I was just seeing if that was true from people actually on the plan.
[Nexus 4 General] daniel2744:
The top three speeds are my tests from T-Mobile. I decided to get on contract with and get unlimited data. Now I know a lot of people don't want to be any contract and that's okay. I get it. I didn't want to be on contract either but I just use too much data and I found myself using my phone less for that reason while I was with at&t. I was considering prepaid but for 63 bucks with sales tax included and Target discount. I just couldn't say no but I wouldn't blame people for choosing straight talk tho. I tried it on my galaxy nexus and was getting 8-12 Mbps down. Absolutely awesome. For me i just wanted peace of mind IMHO
[Nexus 4 General] Freshly_Snipes:
You're not even on the Nexus 4 so why are you commenting? Lol

But you're right... I'm in South Atlanta and i get 10mb to 24mbps down.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] :
yeah i asked. One rep looked at me like i had 10 eyes. The other store rep told me I had to order it online and they dont carry it in store.
[Nexus 4 General] bscotth:
I've been testing Straight Talk(AT&T) on my Galaxy S3 while I use AT&T on my Nexus 4. Using Straight Talk, I downloaded a 600MB+ ROM for my Galaxy S3 and I didn't receive any throttling yet(this happened a few days ago).

I'm not sure where people got the "100MB-a-day" because I've been seeing that thrown around but never a source. For my personal experience so far, 100MB a day throttling is BS. :D
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
I know it varies around but what would you say is the average data speed for AT&T straight talk? I'm using the $30 T-Mobile plan and get 8-17 mbps down regularly but their voice and data coverage sucks at home where I need it most
[Nexus 4 General] bscotth:
My average on Straight Talk with AT&T is around 5 mbps. When I take a Straight Talk device using AT&T and put it next to an actual AT&T device, the download speeds are virtually identical, thankfully.
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Same here with Att I get around 3-5mbs and on T-Mobile using straight talk I get around 5-15mbs
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Between 3-6.5 mbps. That's why i like the ATT straight talk better, even though data speeds are slower, 5 Mbps is plenty for me considering i have WiFi everywhere. The att straight talk gives me service everywhere, plenty of bars in my basement, in my job breakroom where i used to not get any signal when i was with T-Mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
America has no good lower band hspa+42 networks.
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
This is my logic for going with ATT ST. I've had Tmo before and the coverage is spotty at best in the DC Metro. On that same note people really get carried away with data speeds. Really, for real world use there's not ANYTHING you can't do efficiently on between 3-5mbs. I'm coming from a Sprint network that averages between 300kbp-800kbp during peak hours so I can live with 3-6mbs.

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This question is for ST ATT users.

Have any of you experimented with multiple APNs on your Nexus 4?

There's a few out there that people report working better than the one ST has you setup. Have any of you tried??

Any of you try this one?:

APN

APN Name: AT&T HSPA+

APN: phone

MMSC: http[]mmsc()mobile()att()net

MMS proxy: proxy()mobile()att()net

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

APN type: default,supl,mms,hipri

I've also heard that adding "hipri" to the standard APN can increase performance.

I would be testing myself however my Nexus 4 will be here in about a week:(

Just thought I'd throw this out there for you all to test.

()=.
[Nexus 4 General] godefoy:
T-mobile is faster here in miami, but The signal inside buildings is non existent. I work in a hospital and tried both att ST and Tmo ST and i only get a signal on ATT ST.i'll take the better overall coverage of ATT ST.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I'm in Miami. Not what I wanted to hear :( - guess I'll switch to ATT if TMo doesn't work for me.
[Nexus 4 General] mario24601:
I'm on reg att APN not the hspa+

Just added hipri and seems to increase by about 500 to 1mbs. What exactly does hipri do?
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
"hipri" stands for High Priority. It apparently keeps you on the closest tower with the fastest speed.

I don't even have my Nexus yet lol! Should be here in a week or so. Anyway, I'm going to be on ST ATT and have done ALOT of research in preperation for my Nexus' arrival.

Can you please post for me your new modified APN as a reference for myself and others?
[Nexus 4 General] tom619:
Does anyone know how to disable the soft keys for gaming and watching full screen videos etc?
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
WWWWwwwwrrrong thread.
[Nexus 4 General] DOHCtor:
I know this is gonna piss some people off (I don't know why it would) but here is my data usage for ST T-Mobile so far. Why do I use so much? Phone line near my work is damaged and phone company taking their sweet time to fix it so no dsl for now. In the meantime, I just tether.

No signs of throttle or being kicked off. I average 10mbps to 15mbps. Really loving it. Second month on this plan.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
That's crazy :p You're either not affecting users around your area or they are being nice to you. I used 4-5gb my first couple of months. Then tapered off. Also had dsl down. But this time I used less than 1gb this month and tethered their phone on their network to download their apn app to set their phone to work on their data.. And got zapped lol..
[Nexus 4 General] grayson73:
You got zapped? Are you with ST T-Mobile?
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
No, was st att.
[Nexus 4 General] anhisoff:
What speed test app is that?
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Huge difference.

Straight Talk most likely does no throttling on their own whatsoever. AT&T does it on the back end. T-Mobile, on the other hand, is a lot more lenient / doesn't care how much data you use.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Anyone else having issues with MMS working sometime but also not working sometimes?
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
Only when I was with ATT on ST for 8 straight months, since I switched to T-Mo on ST not one issue.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Alright thanks. Ill try it and it will keep saying sending. I delete that message and send it again and it will work
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
yea, on st at&t MMS was kinda hit or miss. I'd say 4 out of 5 times it worked
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
Yeah, it was extremely frustrating. I ended up finding that having two APNs worked for me. Also, I would have to send a picture to myself to reset the system. But the trick was to send a very small picture first, then a larger picture afterwards. The other trick was you have to give about 2+ hours after you set an APN before you send the picture otherwise it will get caught in limbo. I would always get a notification number over my icon but nothing would have come through, it just said "sending". Even after all that though it was still sporadic. Moving to T-Mo really helped and the speeds are almost twice as fast too so that was a nice benefit.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Wish T-Mobile had data faster than edge in my area..
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
i've had ST AT&T for a month and a half but not have and any issues with MMS. I dont send or receive that often maybe a couple a week though.

I am using just one APN.
[Nexus 4 General] bmoke:
Sorry if I was confusing the issue. I never really used my previous smartphone HTC Incredible for much more than SMS/MMS and, of course, phone calls. Other data intensive stuff was never really conducted on or via the Incredible. So my exposure to cellphone speed and bandwidth optimizing tweaks and phone menus is nil. As you said, maybe the "phone", or at least the sim, wasn't provisioned correctly from the start. For my first weekend "alone" with the N4 (and ST Unlimited Sim) I could send SMS without a hitch, but MMS and Internet were totally and completely off-line, inaccessible. Then, I stumbled on the Mobile Network State status field and I found it was continuously displaying "Disconnected", again, even though I could place calls and send SMS ith the phone. That was a clue to me, and I might still be wrong, that the phone was not communicating, at all, for the purpose of internet or MMS services, But, once I called ST Customer Service for help, they promptly turned things around, somehow. Since then, my connection has been solid. I did a speed test via the Speedtest.net app. I did delete the ST APN proxy first. I recalled somewhere the proxy might inhibit a reliable test. First, deleting the proxy had no apparent adverse impact to internet or MMS services. Second, the speed test showed 1 MB up and 4 MB down. It used 8 MB of data for the test. Seems kinda OK to me.

My signal here at home right now is 4 bars at -81 db, 16 ASU. Yesterday at my daughter's house it was 4 bars at -56 db. My Verizon signals were Never that good with the Incredible. Very early into my GSM and ST experiment, but so far, so good. Overall, things are working out very well.

Bill M
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Which APN are you using? Just the one ST recommends?
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
I use the same, without proxy. Every once in awhile I have to change MMSC proxy to .32 instead of .33
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Without the MMS proxy? Sorry I don't understand.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
People say, change the user agent, but in this case the user agent of the other device was an iphone. Which in essence could have (and is) on straight talk service as well.. Lol no rhyme or reason.
[Nexus 4 General] nickacs1:
This is exactly why I HAVE to switch from TMo $30 prepaid to ST AT&T. Building penetration at work is about .2% during the day. I'll get emails like 2-3 times a day at work, where it should be like 20-30 easy. Can't use data connection hardly at all. Gotta go outside or all the way to the building exterior windows and huddle in the corner just to get signal. Pathetic. Outside/at home, the service has been "usable", but I'm switching this coming week to ST and will see.

Having lower data speeds, but a lot better cell/data coverage for $15 more is worth every penny to me.
[Nexus 4 General] marty331:
Until you get throttled at 1.2 GB of data for the month, then you switch to T-Mobile prepaid, like I did.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
lol, same here. but I'm really missing that awesome at&t reception. I have a spare net10 at&t microsim laying around, might give that a try next month
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
I have moderate T-Mobile coverage in my area but I stuck with AT&T after getting throttled (used like 150 mbs watching a TV show on Netflix because cable/internet wasn't set up yet. I don't expect to hit that again). I was worried about the terrible building penetration and also the worry of going for a drive and running into EDGE which surrounds my city. The extra $15 and 3 GB less of data comes with a lot better state of mind. That, and coming from Sprint, the throttled 3G is still faster than any Sprint 3G I ever got XD
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
Sorry, MMSC proxy = MMS proxy. Leave the top proxy line blank
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Isn't it supposed to be blank anyways?
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
Yes, same here. SE Michigan.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
I have yet to find anywhere in Michigan TMo has decent coverage outside of a few feet from one of the Interstates. Same goes for Virginia, get off the Interstate and you lose coverage. So I'd rather put up with being throttled at 1.2 GB (I used a whopping 45 MB of mobile data last month) and have great coverage than not being able to use my phone at all because it gets no signal (TMo's map of my home show good H+ coverage, they need to send out Verizons can you hear me now guy).
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
To the above 2 quotes, I'm from Jackson and it says decent coverage over here but I severely doubt it. I'm going to wait until my friends gets it to test it out before I try it
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
It only costs $10 for the new sim to try it out. If it doesn't work then flip back to the other sim.