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[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
Straight Talk has very recently started a Bring Your Own Phone program for Verizon phones. You can buy the activation kit at a Wal-Mart store, but not online: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-...DMA-Activation-Kit-Plus-Service-Plan/24538820 It should cost $60 and include one month of service.

The one huge caveat is that you can't activate an LTE phone. If the phone is even capable of LTE, it's not eligible. (Note: that only applies to CDMA. If you have an LTE-capable T-Mobile or AT&T phone, you can still use it on Straight Talk, but you won't get LTE speeds.)

Straight Talk customer service reps are as a rule terrible. Expect that they don't know what they're talking about, and any information they have is likely incorrect. I don't know what their Wal-Mart reps are like, but I wouldn't expect them to know about anything complicated. If you want more info on the Verizon BYOP program, I'd suggest checking howardforums.com's Straight Talk forum. The people there know a lot more than your average Straight Talk rep.
[Nexus 4 General] FSRBIKER:
You were streaming Pandora and that's why you were throttled, it's against your terms of service and at least on the At&t Sims you get throttled. If you are rooted or certain phones like the Nexus 4 you can switch to using 2g to conserve battery. There might be apps that can do this as well.
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
Thanks! This was very useful information. My phone is an LTE phone so it won't work. Since I already have a Verizon phone, I was thinking of using it with ST (if it was supported) and seeing how the coverage is in my area.

I want to clarify one more thing, how are people being given the choice between TMO and ATT with ST? Is it that they have a phone from one of these carriers and therefore ST sends the appropriate SIM or do you choose between the two carriers when making your SIM purchase?
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
There are three types of ST Sims. ST ATT, ST TMo, and ATT/TMo compatible. You choose which carrier you want to use when you buy the Sim, unless it's the third option, and then you choose which carrier you want to use when you set the Sim card up.
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
Awesome! Thanks for the info :)
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
I'm on the straighttalksim.com website trying to make a sim purchase. Where would I make the choice for ATT/TMO? The screenshot below is the second page in the purchase process. Is it that if I click the second option, I choose ATT and if I click the third option, I choose TMO? To that end, when I choose the second option, I get the page shown below in the second screenshot and am not able to proceed any further.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
The best thing you can do if you are trying to get an ATT Sim for ST is get one from eBay, as ST stopped selling them.

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The best thing you can do if you are trying to get an ATT Sim for ST is get one from eBay, as ST stopped selling them.
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
Slender Troll is right: the only way to get a ST AT&T Sim card is to buy one from eBay. I wouldn't recommend doing that at this point because ST has started aggressively throttling AT&T users in the past few months. It used to be that as long as you stayed under 100 MB per day and 2 GB per month, you were fine. Now, people are getting throttled with much less data use, and in some cases just because they did a small amount of video or audio streaming.

If you really want AT&T service, a better alternative is Net10. They're owned by the same company as ST, but they don't have the same throttling policies. You can buy a Net10 AT&T Sim card from eBay for 99 cents, much less than an ST card. They have a hard 1.5GB per month cap, after which your data is completely shut off until the next month. If you need more data than that, you're out of luck, and it's not a good option. They charge $50 per month rather than $45 for ST, but if you get in their autopay program, it's only $45 on Net10. Or you can buy discounted service plans from websites like crazygametime.com and potentially save even more.

Net10 has the same terrible customer service as ST, and it's not a great option if you need more than 1.5 GB per month. If those are problems for you, you can either go with a more expensive provider like Red Pocket, or just use T-Mobile service.
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
Thanks Dan, I think I'll be going with ST Tmo. Was asking about ATT out of curiosity. I use between 300MB and 400MB/month but I don't want to be throttled even on that little usage.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
If you want AT&T, just use Net10. It's fine as long as you don't stream many hours of music.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
I use 5-10gb data every month with straight talk at&t .
[Nexus 4 General] shook187:
I'm on my third week with Straight Talk (at&t) and so far no throttling even after one day using 250mb. I'm on pace to use 3gb and so far so good.
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
I take it you went the ebay route for your SIM?
[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
It seems really inconsistent, where some people can use huge amounts of data with no problem, while others get throttled after a few hundred MB.

I'm not suggesting that anyone leave ST if it's working for them, but I've seen enough bad stories (and experienced it myself) that I wouldn't advise anyone to spend $25-$50 on a SIM card on eBay just so they can get ST AT&T service.
[Nexus 4 General] shook187:
I was lucky to find 3 kits in my walmart of course I bought all of them kept one card and sold the rest on eBay.
[Nexus 4 General] uToTMeH8:
I finally got data cut off on my T-Mobile straight talk Sim. Used a ridiculously high amount of data the past 3 months with no problems. Decided to invest a little more in the service and prepaid 6 months and my data is completely shut off. Can make calls just fine but no browsing
[Nexus 4 General] shobuddy:
So you will be w/out data for remainder of the 6 months? Or for a few weeks/months? Or how does it work?
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
My Mom's data was completely cut off today. She's using a Straight Talk AT&T sim in her iPhone 4S. The frustrating thing is, she hardly uses data at all. Occasional Google searches and a rare YouTube video. I'm helping her switch to Net10 after this month of service.
[Nexus 4 General] uToTMeH8:
I have no idea. Calling them is a nightmare. Filed a claim with BBB and FTC, I'll contact them tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] sk8ordie0:
I think peak times it doesn't give you anything. I have noticed it lately. .. If I start Pandora in my car after I'm away from WiFi then it takes forever. And I'll have full bars right by the at&t store. ...... Sucks.... My wife is on Verizon ST . .. It seems to be better than at&t ST. Fast and response... She would complain if it wasn't.
[Nexus 4 General] yosup:
Damn, that sucks to hear (esp. ST's TMO side). How much data were you using during the prior months? How much data were you at when they shut it off? Were you streaming music or vids at all?

I thought they were more generous (& forgiving) on the ST TMO sims, but now I'm wondering if the tide is turning. Then again, it probably depends on the service area. Hope this isn't a trend. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] uToTMeH8:
Used about 60 gigs the past 2 months. This month I hit 3 and they cut all data off with no warning.
[Nexus 4 General] yosup:
Holy crap! 60 GB is amazing, but getting completely cutoff @ 3GB is terrible. I'm surprised there was no notice (and not even an angry call or text from them).
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
It has been like that for a few days now, so I think it's time to leave Straight Talk.

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It's not amazing, it's ignorant. He is just of many people who abused Straight Talk so now we all lose out.
[Nexus 4 General] yosup:
While I understand your overall sentiment, I'd hardly consider it ignorant. He's pushing it, maybe ... but pushing what exactly? What are the boundaries here? Until ST publishes specific numbers for data threshold parameters (for both throttling and complete cut-off), the conversation is complete conjecture and entirely subjective. Your opinion of high or even excessive data useage will most likely differ from another's. All through this thread, there's so much variance of when & how ST pulls the trigger on the TOS fine print. It's so frustrating & confusing and almost like driving through a highway with no posted speed limits. Yet, you still get ticketed at random speeds (and ultimately your car is impounded).

As for "losing out," the T-Mobile network was bound to get more congested esp. once they finally brought the iPhone into the mix. It's all a matter of scale. T-Mobile's been agressive with their pricing strategies, and they now accomodate numerous MVNO's voice/data traffic. The faster they grow, there's less & less grass to graze for us who've been with them already.

If one person is using 30 GB per month, what about the inverse? For all the people who maybe only use 300 MB per month. Isn't there an injustice to them if maybe they actually could be consuming say 3 GB without issue? If that were the case, they've paid 100% of the cost and yet only yield 10% of the value.

ST can argue defending their "quality of service" all they want, but it's meaningless unless hard numbers are provided. Until they come out with the "Straight" Facts ... this argument is endless.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
Straight Talk has made their data terms("boundaries") relatively clear. No streaming. That takes care of two of the highest data users. While it sucks, that just means Straight Talk isn't for those who want to watch more than a quick YouTube clip.

I dislike the "we don't know the limits" argument, because, in actuality, we do. It may not be as set as Net10's data cap, but it's still relatively clear.

I was one of the first people to use Straight Talk's BOYD plan. I've seen how it's gone downhill because of abuse.

I'm not sure what your point is here. By "losing out", I meant that now, many people are now being throttled unfairly.

No one realistically uses 30GB browsing web pages Anyone who uses 30GB month on a cellular connection is either tethering or streaming video/audio. Either way, it's a violation of the TOS.

I might eat 1 pound of food at a buffet while you eat 0.8 pounds of food at the same restaurant. As long as neither of us is stuffing our pockets with food(streaming) or sharing our food with a guest who hasn't paid(tethering), we should be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] yosup:
That still wouldn't stop ST from throttling anyone the moment they flip on a Youtube clip (regardless how long the duration). So, in the extreme case, it should be interpreted as no Youtube useage at all. It's completely at ST's whim how they would enforce their own rules. Anyways, the streaming aspect of their TOS limitations is already understood.

I completely disagree. Until a hard data cap number is provided, it is absolutely not clear at all. It's lazy on their part not to specify it. It gives them all the flexibility to manage their networks (and still market it as "unlimited"), while it completely burdens the user knowing their data service could be throttled or even shut-off at any moment (whether it's 10 MB or 100 MB or 1 GB, etc). We need specific numbers ... so you & I should simply agree to disagree on this one then.

That's unfortunate. Yet, the onus is not simply on the consumer side. My point was there's a large component to this from ST/T-Mobile's data management and business growth/infrastructure planning side as well. Who's to say they haven't mismanaged or oversold their network capacity? It's convenient to blame people consuming lots of data, but there are two sides to that coin. Plus, it may not necessarily be heavy data useage by a few people. It could even be moderate data useage by a very large number of people ... overloading the network capacity in a specific region.

Without specific cap numbers, we're at their mercy of how they manage our own data useage. Whether it's fair or unfair, my point is it's completely unknown until there's something to measure it by.
[Nexus 4 General] uToTMeH8:
I was well within their terms of service. No streaming and using a mobile Web browser. I read the whole thing before I filed my claims. They also modified their terms of service after I paid for six months of service.
[Nexus 4 General] DJPrelude:
A couple of days ago I lost data completely as if I had it turned off. It turned out that Straight Talk had updated my account and changed the apn that I needed for my account. All the searching I've done in the past and I've never seen this apn.

Name: Straight Talk

Apn: tfdata

MMSC: http://mms-tf.net

MMS proxy: mms3.tracfone.com

MMS port: 80

APN type: default,supl,hipri,mms

Everything else is either "not set" or left at its default

Also, I was able to reach a service rep within 5 minutes every time I called this number and followed the prompts for technical support. 855-222-2355
[Nexus 4 General] Bush715:
Are the new byop kits that are CDMA capable also have the tmo Sims in them as I went to get one but all they had were the new kits and they didn't know
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
In getting irritated ST insisted my data would work well Again within 24hrs after I payed my bill (may 26)

It is now the 9th and I'm still sitting at 0.13mbs ↓ & 1.1mbs ↑…
[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
I haven't bought one of the CDMA kits, so I don't know for sure, but I don't think they contain a T-Mobile Sim card. You can buy the T-Mo Sim cards at straighttalksim.com or walmart.com.
[Nexus 4 General] Bush715:
Yeah I figured I would have to order one especially since we all know how genius Walmart employees are.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
My ST ATT got throttled after I used 250MB one day. I called their CS to ask if I will automatically get full speed back upon my next monthly renewal, but I couldn't understand his heavily accented English. Does anyone here know?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] ackliph:
It won't go back up automatically. You'll have to call and ask them to speed it up.
[Nexus 4 General] 3UR0TR45H:
Had an interesting experience today. Did a speed comparison between Net10 AT&T and ST AT&T. Same phones right next to each other. The N10 got 7.1 down and my ST got 1.2 down. I'm switching to N10 this month. 1.5gb of 7.1 is better than "unlimited" 1.2.
[Nexus 4 General] JarGnex:
I tried to search but I didn't find why I can't access Facebook using straight talk T-Mobile from my nexus 4 , has anyone encountered with this problem?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Definitely thinking about switching to the $60 2GB plan when it starts. LTE with prepaid! http://pulse.me/s/rbhC4UuFq
[Nexus 4 General] machoua:
My Facebook app won't load with straight talk Sim either. Weird that you have this problem too.
[Nexus 4 General] JarGnex:
Yeah and if you go to the web browser and go to facebook.com and request for desktop site it won't load
[Nexus 4 General] onedollarinmywallet:
Thank goodness that I'm not the only one (or actually my wife) having this issue. On her N4 with ST (T-Mobile network SIM), her FB stopped working about two weeks ago. I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out what is wrong since emails and MMS work on her phone and calling ST support is pretty much useless since all they say is nothing is wrong on her account.

I was wondering if her account could have been throttled somehow but when I checked the usage on her phone, it was under 1 GB for the month (around 500-750 MB).

Perhaps ST is blocking Facebook?
[Nexus 4 General] joe_sun:
My wife has straight talk T-Mobile and Facebook and Yahoo mail stopped working.

She Has ultra low data usage, maybe 500 megs a month. Glad to see were not the only ones. anyone call yet?
[Nexus 4 General] engtomhat:
Facebook App not working on Straight Talk

I have the same problem with my Nexus 4.

Facebook App doesn't work on Straight Talk network (T-Mobile)

However, Facebook Mobile site works fine on any browser.

UPDATE: 20 June 2013

As of today, Facebook App started working over ST/T-Mobile.

I haven't changed any settings.
[Nexus 4 General] JarGnex:
Yeah i tried calling but they said my settings were correct and that i should call Facebook, So it was useless

. I tried different settings but no luck I use mobile site on my browser for now hope they fix this issue.
[Nexus 4 General] AshtonTS:
MMS is broken on straight talk AT&T. Any help?
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
my wife and myself are both on ST At&T and although i do not use facebook, she does. She uses the app and has not had any issues with it.

My other question is where do you get the refill cards now? I used crazygametime.com which was about $42 with no tax but has been out of stock for about a month. Last couple of times, i just bought the card from walmart and it comes to a little less than $49 with tax. I also tried refillmobi.net and mobirefill.com, but they are out of stock as well. Maybe ST has been cracking down on the cards. I am looking for the 30 day one since i do not want to chance it with a 90 or 180 day one listening to all of you being throttled and cut off although i do not use much data at all- less than 250mb a month on average. I have streamed audio once in a while as well....but nor a whole lot at a time and the less than 250 mb includes this as I am on wifi -95 % of the time.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
My data got shut off today. Old and new APN does not work.

It might be time to leave straight talk!
[Nexus 4 General] nick314:
Try 66.209.11.32 for your MMS Proxy. It's slow but it still seems to work.

I used to have proxy.mvno.att.ztarmobile.com as my MMS Proxy, as I actually sat down and pinged a few of these. This worked incredibly well.....

Until it was switched to the 66.209.11.33 everyone is using.

Does anyone know of any other MMS proxies for AT&T MVNO's?

Ping before you post, because most addresses resolve to 66.209.11.33, which is our problem server. Or, preferably, post their server's IP.
[Nexus 4 General] DOHCtor:
For those of you having problems using the Facebook app or requesting desktop version in the browser for Facebook, it's not just ST T-Mobile. I'm having the same problems with the T-Mobile uncarrier plan. It seems to be something wrong with T-Mobile's network. They fixed it a couple of weeks ago, but it recently started happening again. Only way to check Facebook on mobile is to get the mobile version on your browser (m.facebook.com).
[Nexus 4 General] AshtonTS:
I can't receive MMS on that Proxy, I can send it now though.
[Nexus 4 General] onedollarinmywallet:
I am on T-Mobile's prepaid (the $30 5GB/100 mins plan) and don't have any issues with the Facebook app on my N4.
[Nexus 4 General] DOHCtor:
Well, I have LTE and use the fast.t-mobile.com APN, so that maybe the issue.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Can anyone comment on T-Mobile in Wichita Kansas areas ?
[Nexus 4 General] jhax01:
Same here (ST T- mobile). Time to pony up an extra $20 for all you can eat on Tmo prepaid, I guess....
[Nexus 4 General] nick314:
This is how 66.209.11.33 used to act a few weeks ago, before it was completely broken. I wish I saved the old IP for the one I was using :/

My mom and I are on 2 different AT&T MVNOs but the proxy worked great for both of US. (I'm on ST and shes on Red Pocket)

She's gonna miss MMS more than I will :/

Update: mms3.tracfone.net now resolves to 69.6.21.21 (pings back, don't know how good of an indicator that is.) Gonna try it.
[Nexus 4 General] bryanacastillo:
Tmobile APN

For those of us with Straighttalk on the T-mobile network, here's my experience. I had the standard sim card that i cut down to micro sim size. Once inserted phone and sms works just fine without changing any settings. This left mms and data not working though (data did work over wifi)

After much searching and trial and error I've found an APN that works for T-mobile. It allows data (both 3g, and hspa+) and sending/receiving MMS with the stock messenger app (i haven't gotten 3rd party apps such and handcent to work yet).

Speedtests show avg 8.3 mbps down and 2.3 mbps up. Really good in my opinion for over the network.

Name: straight talk

APN: wap.tracfone

Proxy: Blank

Port: 8080

Username: Blank

Password: Blank

Server: Blank

MMSC: h t t p:// mmm.tracfone . c o m (take out the spaces)

MMS Proxy: 216.165.155

MMS Port: 8080

MCC: 310

MNC: 260

Authentication Type: Blank

APN type: default,supl,mms

APN Protocol: IPv4/IPv6

APN roaming protocol: IPv4/IPv6

Hope this helps someone else!
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Yeah I'm gonna switch to AT&T go phones new $60 plan
[Nexus 4 General] intheb0x:
So if I a quire a att ST micro sim I'll have access to att LTE? because I just switches to the 30 dollar 5gb tmo plan, while nice, my Optimus G (nexus 4 clone) its not optimized for tmos network and yeah I get H+ in certain areas it's 21.6mb not 42 and I'm always umts and when data is used it switched to h+, but most of Milwaukee I'm on edge, so it wouldn't only switch to att ST if I could pull att lte because it's incredible here 55mbs down and there network is superior here to tmo.

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Anyone have a att ST sim?
[Nexus 4 General] hoppermi:
No LTE on ST
[Nexus 4 General] jkenny23:
Why's that? LTE should work on T-Mobile directly (with Band 4 enabled radio), and the image on the sim card buying page says it's got 4G service:

Just marketing trash?
[Nexus 4 General] hoppermi:
Don't know about t mobile, but yeah, they count HSPA+ as 4G
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Well i levy straight talk (at&t) and any to T-Mobile prepaid.

And I could not be happier!
[Nexus 4 General] pjc123:
I have been on Straight Talk (AT&T) since I bought my Nexus4 a few months ago and never really cared much about data because I mostly use my phone or wifi. But I am starting to use more data on the road and no matter where I drive to, I am only seeing data speeds of 0.5 to 1Mbps tops. So a couple days ago I looked for the biggest cell tower I could find with the best signal (100% signal strength and a signal level of -57dbm, with a reported connection oscillating between HSPA and HSPA+). I ran a SpeedTest and I am getting Download Speed= 1.26 Mbps, Upload Speed = 0.38 Mbps, Ping Time = 125 ms; Wow, that one was my record speed of all time! Am I wrong in believing that this is a ridiculously low speed or am I missing something? I looked at the data I am using and it is very, very low, so I am not being or should not be throttled (Straight Talk tells me they have no control over this; they can neither tell me if I am being throttled or fix it if it is). Straight Talk support will not help me at all with this issue. Maybe the phone is defective........it there a way to test this?

So what are my other options as far as a cheap plan if the MVNO is the problem? I chose AT&T on Straight Talk because I am a little more concerned with phone coverage rather than data, but maybe I can live with sorta bad phone coverage and up my data speed. How bad is T-Mobile as far as phone service, as I might look into Solavei.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Mischief:
Im not sure if you are being throttled. While those speeds are slower than usual, they aren't quite down to throttle speeds.

As far as T-Mobile data goes, don't expect more than 2G while out of towns and cities.
[Nexus 4 General] pjc123:
I gather that 2G is even worse? Maybe I will just live with it.
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
ST ATT throttled me this month (for tethering +/- huge data for one day) and I got approx 230 kbits/sec.

TMobile has a great plan; unfortunately its coverage is abysmal. You might want to try it if you live in an urban area and seldom travel.
[Nexus 4 General] ryaniskira:
You probably got throttled when I got so-called throttled I lost my data. Limit is around 4GB.

Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0RC5

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You usually need some sort of modification to be able to see H+ I never saw it until i flashed CM

Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0RC5
[Nexus 4 General] ryaniskira:
Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0RC5