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[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
I'm switching to Att gophone as soon as I get my sim in the mail. I was throttled and they said I had to have a new months service to get my speeds back. Added enough and reset my startup date to the 11th. This morning I was charged another $50. The 18th was my Old startup date and it was changed, I even have an email that confirms this. Calling them tomorrow to see if I can get my money back from this crummy service!
[Nexus 4 General] FatalDestroyer:
Glad Im Not The Only One

Glad Im not the only one having troubles today. I even emailed them and just brushed me off and did not give me any explanation just that i broke terms of service and said wait till next billing cycle. Im so damn furious right now. I know we agree to their terms by buying refill time and joining their service but they have no damn justification other than telling me their system is automated on weather or not it throttles a user or not.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
First off, note that service is for 30 days, not monthly. Meaning it never resets on the same day of the month.

Did you tether? If not, which "terms" did you break? Stream, download?

There is no "set" limit. It's what ever at&t decides.. People until "last year" would *suggest* keep below 100mb/d, 2gb/m max just to keep safe.

If the rep said under 30mb, it would make sense. I got throttled at 50mb.

Was so random and annoying to have to wait until my next refill to get that to reset, that I never used a 90 day refill again.. It's handed by at&t and once set st can rarely help, by re-provisioning your data. But they usually can't help because its beyond their control.

I switched to tmo/Walmart $30 plan for 2 months. 100 minutes was too little for me. Switched back to st tmo byop Sim.
[Nexus 4 General] danlo:
StraightTalk/AT&T throttles selectively?

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I'm a Google Voice user. I use it exclusively for texting. I don't like the GV app integration with Android, because if you want to send a new message via the Messaging app, you need to choose a GV forward number. That's why I prefer to use the GV app. The GV app uses data to send/receive texts.

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I started using ST with AT&T since January. I noticed that every now and then, it would take forever for my GV text messages to go through. The messages would either sit as queued or failed/retrying. Eventually they will go through, but it is a pain in the neck to wait and make sure the messages get sent, and it's also a battery drain.

Last night I was out and this started happening again. I always thought it was just AT&T service here in Manhattan being notoriously unreliable. On a whim I decided to open the browser and surf a few sites. No issues with browsing.

I have an account with HMA for their VPN service and have it setup on my phone. I decided to start it up. Tried the GV app again. I had no issues for the rest of the night sending/receiving GV messages when I was connected to the VPN.

All of the above was happening in HSDPA mode. Not once did the phone switch into 2/3G.

If what I am assuming based on above evidence is correct, that means StraightTalk with AT&T selectively throttles services/sites. That means I cannot rely on my cell service on anything. Are they going to throttle other Google services next? The StraightTalk/T-Mobile option seems better, but their coverage just doesn't (at least not yet) stand a chance against AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
although i do not use GV, i have also noticed that at some times my messaging does take a while to go through-it just says sending for up to 15-20 mins( this happens mostly for pic/mms rather than a normal text) i assumed this might be due to network congestion, but i am in a small market in NE Minn instead of a huge market
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
It's never network congestion. Ever.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Hell, I've had it do this on WiFi. The Google Voice app is just a pile of garbage - kill the process and try again. Here's hoping Google's new solution in May is better.
[Nexus 4 General] danlo:
I did the kill/restart dance several times. Each time the messages would be stuck. As soon as I connect to my VPN the problem goes away. Disconnect VPN - problem comes back.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
My straight talk rant:

I was being throttled and they told me that I'd be throttled until a new month came or until I started a new plan. Bought a pin and told them to apply it as a pin and not to the reserve account and asked them to cancel my auto pay. (my original renew date was the 18th but I tried to start a new month on the 11th) so after my first call I find out the pin was added to the reserve and not as a new month. So I called back the next day and tried everything, rinally got them to restart my service for the 11th and got an email confirming that my new renew date is the 11th. All seemed fine from the 11th-17th. Then on the 18th I was charges again $48.47. I'm assuming they didn't cancel my autopay and called them to let them know I needed that money back and to verify that autopay was cancelled (it was). They said I'd get my money back within 24 hours. Now today (20th) I got notified from my bank that another charge for 48.47 from straight talk has been taken out. WTF!

So basically I've paid nearly $150 for a month of straight talk service. I talked to someone today who says they "can't find another charge" but here's a ss of the text they send put when they automatically draw out money:

I am beyond fed up with straight talk. As soon as my Att prepay card comes in the mail I'm dropping them and I will contact the BBB about my experience and will further pursue the issue if my money is not returned within a weeks time.

Also note in the screen shot they say they charged my card on the 11th but I gave them a pin from a card. I've been charged twice from straight talk in addition to the card I initially added. :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
So your end date should be +90 days worth according to what you've said? If not I'd submit a ticket on Facebook, call that 1888 someone posted earlier and then make a claim with your CC to charge back.. I would check my CC statement to see actual charges (not pending authorizations)..

I activated my new Sim. Then added 90days. I got a text saying thanks for adding airtime my new service end date is 07/14/13. Then a few mins later I got welcome to straight talk text telling me my service end date was 04/15/13...

Personally I never liked my $900 bill for ONE month's service on AT&T.. Good thing it was a company phone...
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
I only tried to add 30 days, they keep taking money out of my account without my permission. I want nothing to do with this company. And I Def don't want to waste $150 on their crappy service.
[Nexus 4 General] rubiconjp:
The Google Voice texts getting stuck are always fixed after I set phone into airplane mode and back... Thus rebooting the radio. Works every time for me thus far.

About the texts of new charges, I also got those texts every few days too but no additional charges were made except for the original one.
[Nexus 4 General] wvcadle:
I'm in my 2nd month with Straight Talk, and I've had none of these issues. The service works as expected, GV works without a hiccup, no problems. Of course I'm not trying to use multiple GBs of data a month either.
[Nexus 4 General] cgulliver:
In 1st month and has been great. I have the ATT Mico-sim from the bundle in the kiosk. Have a refill in my account but have not set up auto pay. Also using g-voice so can go to any sim with a software settings change only. See no reason to leave at this point.
[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
Throttled

I was throttled for the first time ever a few nights ago. The strange thing is that I had been tethering and using way more data than usual a week before I got throttled. I went through 1.2 GB in less than a week, which included the end of one cycle and the beginning of the next.

But it was only a few days afterward, when I was back to using normal amounts of data and not tethering at all, that they throttled me. I was just under 1 GB of data for the cycle when I noticed I'd been throttled.

Note: I'm not complaining, just putting another data point out there in case anyone can find a pattern.
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
I dont use google voice just the standard way of sending texts....does that use data/ wifi?
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
no text do not use data or wifi
[Nexus 4 General] NYZack:
If what he is asking is whether Google Voice uses data or wifi, your response is incorrect. Google Voice *does* use data/wifi. It bypasses the usual SMS system.

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But, as you say, regular texts do not use data or wifi (except MMS texts, which may).
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
He said in his post he doesn't use GV and you are correct in that mms will use some data but regular sms (mobile-to-mobile) texts will not.
[Nexus 4 General] joey3002:
There is a solution... cancel and go back to att. No offense but users like yourself hurt it for the rest of us that use data as it should.1.2 gigs in 1 week? If I was st, I would have cancelled you myself. I have a family of 3 and we use maybe 400megs in a month. Find a Wi-Fi hotspot and use that during the day. Again, I really mean no offense by this post, just tired of seeing people state they were throttled when they are abusing st..

Eventually they will cancel abusers and ban them imo...
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
400 megs between 3 people in 1 month ?!

let me be the first to say:

WELCOME TO 2013 !

also, maybe a smartphone isnt for you; you know ive heard those nokia phones are really cool.... maybe you should try one ?

:highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] joey3002:
lol, no, I just have taught my wife and son to use wifi. Wherever they go, they have some sort of wife usually. Even when I am at work I use wifi, home wifi, at the pub... guess what.. wifi. Ive had a smartphone since the blackberry 6200 series was cool (if it ever was...) Its all in how you use the phone. Thats like going to a buffet and staying for breakfast, lunch, dinner. 1.2 gigs a week = a 12 hour buffet session
[Nexus 4 General] imstill@g:
Or a movie while waiting in a doctor's office
[Nexus 4 General] joey3002:
The doctors we have in PA, actually have signs, no cell phone use. I sneak it but I know they would say something if I put a movie on. Besides, I am not sure how appropriate it is to pull up porn in a doc office.. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] imstill@g:
Those are always on the local for quick access, duh :)
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
There's really someone left in the world who downloads it? :shocked:
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
Anyone know the daily/monthly limits before throttling on at&t st?

Sent from my real Android phone
[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
How is my use hurting you?

How is my data use hurting you? Straight Talk (or AT&T) decides how much data is too much, and when a user reaches it, they throttle you. It happened to me, and I'm not complaining about it, just letting others know.

It's the game you play as a Straight Talk subscriber. Their terms and conditions are so vague and so restrictive that just about any smart phone user will violate them at some point. If they decide that 1 GB per month, or 50 MB per day, or any other number they dream up is too much, they'll throttle you. If you stay below that amount, as it sounds like you do, you have nothing to worry about.

If my reply above wasn't clear enough, there's no official limit, and in practice, it seems to vary from one person to the next. In the past, people said that as long as you stayed below 2 GB per month or 100 MB per day, you were fine. Lately, they seem to be cracking down more, but it's hard to say for sure what the limit is.

If that's too uncertain for you, as it's starting to become for me, you might try Net10, which is run by the same company but has a hard cap of 1.5 GB per month.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
They throttle the **** out of me :( .. might switch to T-Mobile sim

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
Yeah I wish they'd just give a clear limit rather than give us this fake unlimited. I got throttled and then my data got cut off completely like halfway through my last cycle. So Net10 is on AT&T network too?

Sent from my real Android phone
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
So you used about a gig in a week? This is what I get out of your post. Well, my opinion is, (NOT ATTACKING!!) it sounds like you broke TOS I can only assume you must be streaming music/movies, which is now a BIG no no with ST. Also you crossed the 100MB per day threshold, strike 2. I know the 100MB isn't mentioned in TOS but "we" know that is a sore spot with ST. I believe "we" are going to have to start "respecting" ST's rules and regulations. I know they are vague with their data cap/limit, I wish they would clarify the service parameters. I also was throttled, I only crossed 1.5 for the month. I "tethered" to my N10 which isn't against the rules however, I used 300MB in one day due to the power outage from a blizzard. Like you, about a WEEK later I was throttled till the end of the month. AT&T is done with the ST power users. I can't blame them. Many people are using well above 5gb a month. To me that is ridiculously high amount of data. I stream Pandora check email, surf a bit, 5 days a week for about 5-6 hours a day and still manage to keep it just under 100MB a day. Streaming Netflix or downloading movies to your phone while on mobile data deserves a bit of regulation. People can find WiFi in many, many places to accomplish big downloads. I am a bit upset at these GINORMOUS numbers I see ST users using. Really? 50, 60, 70GB in a month? Being a jerk to be a jerk is just being a jerk. BTW my throttle was a soft throttle. I could still stream Pandora/surf but trying to watch a YouTube video wouldn't happen.
[Nexus 4 General] dan in la:
Net10 offers AT&T service, but just like with Straight Talk, you can no longer get an AT&T SIM card directly from their website. Unlike Straight Talk, you can still get Net10 AT&T SIM cards cheap on eBay. Net10 costs $50 per month, but if you look for discounts online, you can get refills for less than that.

I definitely broke the TOS, and I'm not surprised or upset that Straight Talk cut me off. Like you, I was in a situation with no wifi available for a week, so I tethered and used a lot of data.

I also wish they'd clarify the service parameters, and it's making me think I'd be better off with Net10. I don't want to keep experimenting and then get cut off when I cross a line that I didn't know was there.

On the other hand, it would be tough to go over 1.5MB and be completely cut off for the rest of the month, as happens with Net10. Even with the throttle, I can still get 120 kbps, which is enough for the essentials.
[Nexus 4 General] jcsd1212:
I'm trying to use Google voice with straight talk and I'm having a problem making my phone's voice mail stay as Google voice. Has anyone had their straight talk voice mail turned off so there's no conflict?
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
Exactly!! I would like to know the data throttle limit. I don't like having to watch my phone's data. If I had an idea when it kicked in, I could adjust accordingly. You also mentioned that at least they continue with data even though "we" went over the threshold, thank goodness for that! It does say UNLIMITED so they do give you it but, not at an usable speed for other than checking mail, web browsing (slow but it works) and you can still stream music (YouTube practically unusable). My Pandora continued but some songs took an extra 2-4 seconds to load. I can accept that. I would hope they would give us at least 2GB at normal speeds. That's 500MB per week and not so bad a trade off for being on a MVNO and getting "unlimited" data, texts, phone for under $50 a month. I really do like ST first for the price and second for mixing the game up and getting the big players to notice the consumers.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Got throttled at like 800 MB..
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
that sucks. can you think of a reason that might have happened (streaming, tethering, etc?) or do you think it was just a random thing without anything to do with the TOS?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Well stupid Google music used like 250mb of background data in a few hours one day. I have no idea why, it has a mind of it's own sometimes. After that I was throttled.
[Nexus 4 General] popi09:
What APN settings does everyone use to be able to send MMS?
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
There aren't any official limits. It's random and controlled by at&t not st.

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The ones listed on st support page are the only ones that work.

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The net10 at&t sim (light blue/blue), which isn't available anymore, is. The one that is available now on their site (pink one) is for tmobile but its full sized and needs to be cut.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
Not entirely true. I'm using APN settings that I got on a different website and they work just fine.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] popi09:
Could you share those settings please?
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
You will have 2 APNs.

I don't think it matters what you have for APN type, as long as you have "default" and "supl" there. The hipri and admin are optional

It shouldn't disable Wifi to send MMS. If it is, there is something wrong.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] zeeebs:
I've on Straight Talk T-Mobile for over a year and regularly use about 3GB HSPA+ 42 a month without any issues.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
What I meant was, it sends MMS messages using your mobile data, not Wifi.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] oppendroid:
Net10 Bundled Package at Walmart?

When the N4 was first announced, I did a ****load of research and decided to jump ship when my Verizon contract expired. Had it all planned out to go with AT&T through Straight Talk.

Well, contract expired and I just received my shiny new N4 and it has been sitting in the box since Tuesday because I'm at a loss regarding which carrier to use now that AT&T is no longer an option.

I was in Walmart a couple days ago and saw a Net10 package that has a sim card, micro sim card, and a $50 prepaid unlimited everything card for a grand total of $65. I have done some searching online but I can't find this package anywhere.

It seems like exactly what I need to get started but I thought I'd check in here first. Am I missing something? Spending way too much money when I could get it a lot cheaper online?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
ST ATT is still an option, you just have to buy the Sim elsewhere. I got mine on eBay.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Someone was trying to sell one on my local craigslist for $70... Lol!
[Nexus 4 General] jbreakfield:
Did you check the Net10 website? I just looked, and they have a similar package (with just the AT&T microSIM and the $50 prepaid card) for $59.99.

Someone said the AT&T cards aren't available from Net10, but that's not true. If you can live with 1.5 GB of data/month, this is a good option.
[Nexus 4 General] osmosizzz:
Yeah you can go to ebay, order the sim. Then buysomr air time card either on ebay or else where and you'll be fine. One issue that I had was getting the correct apn. God that was a pain but once i had it, it worked good. But now im with Solavei

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What a rip off lol

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Almost no prepaid carrier has conditional call forwarding support. very little do
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Yeah seriously.. I would hope no one would be stupid enough to pay that much.
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
You think that's a ripoff, before the N4 became available permanently I saw someone was selling one for $600.

Sent from my Nexus 4/Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
:rolleyes::D
[Nexus 4 General] AshtonTS:
I saw them for upwards of a grand...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] jcsd1212:
Try tweakker in the app store. It shows all the apns for different carriers.
[Nexus 4 General] joey3002:
I have to say, I really love straight talk. I am on month to month autorefill.

Is there anywhere I can get a good price on say 6 months? I would love to buy a 6 month refill so I can save a few bucks but the service is spot on for me (where I live)

thanks guys

btw, if you us CM as your rom, it included a crap ton of APNs and I did not even have to touch it.
[Nexus 4 General] mrk829:
i use crazygametime.com and have never had any issues. they are 41.99 a month with no tax and send me a pin in less than a couple minutes. it is cheaper than auto refill at 45+ tax so you end up saving 7-8 bucks a month but have to take the extra few minutes to get the pin every month.

i agree. could not be happier with ST At&T- coming from verizon- i end up saving about 70 bucks a month on two lines

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ahh ok, the consolation is that it wasnt a random throttle. to be honest , i stream once every few days in the car to work but have not been throttled. I still have not exceded 400-500 mb on average every month since I am on wifi 90-95% of the time
[Nexus 4 General] cgulliver:
I also am drinking the ST Kool Aid. You do need to be sensitive to data usage but what do people expect at this price tier? I've had no issues with throttling of any kind but have been reminded how solid verizon's network is. In the middle of Podunk nowhere I've got a goose egg on ST ATT and my wife has 4 bars of 3g on Vzw. Too bad VZ is 3x cost and isn't a GSM provider.

I'm guessing TMo is faster than ATT but even worse coverage. Gonna try it anyways when this SIM expires. My main number is on GVoice so I can bounce around with no issue.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
switching from at&t to tmo Sims can take a while. I switched my nephews Sim from att to tmo on net10 (same as straight talk, both owned by tracfone) and it took about18 hours
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Wow.... I was about to do a factory reset to see if it helped but never mind.
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Going on 15 hours and still no service ....
[Nexus 4 General] dustintheweb:
Tested these settings on ATT ST & can confirm the slight uptick in speed in comparison to the standard ST APN w/out proxy. (Tulsa, OK area)
[Nexus 4 General] reference2myself:
I can't seem to get picture messages to work for crap with any straight talk att apn settings. Could someone who has both sending and receiving of picture messages please post their apn settings?
[Nexus 4 General] droidmakespwn:
Have you reset the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
Use ST's settings, but create two APNs: the first with all settings minus MMSC, the second with just MMSC
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
Yep and called them 5 times they all say that the Sim change is still in "progress" and they can't do anything until after 24hrs. Which is in 2 hours. I have to admit this is kind of fustratimg , while I like the pretty paid route, with post paid I wouldn't go an hour without service.
[Nexus 4 General] marquae11:
can you receive AT&T LTE on straight talk?
[Nexus 4 General] Ajfink:
No.
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
For those that went from the $30 T-Mobile plan to straight talk, how long did it take to port your number?
[Nexus 4 General] Jess813:
They liteeally made me wait 24 hours for my service to be up and running.... wow...

Anyways now that I am on ST At&t, i cannot get the Speedtest app to work with it!? Does anyone know a work around this? I am really curious as to the speeds on At&T as long as i can get 5MBS I am good!
[Nexus 4 General] slopokdave:
ST blocks speed test apps.... I think there are some workarounds, just not sure how.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Do you have a proxy configured in your APN? Removing the proxy has been said to fix speed test apps.