yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ASSMO:
SAME HERE!

Yeah I love this Rom but am super excited! Are we getting this tonight or is it gonna take till tomorrow cus Ill get some rest you know :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
V12, for the first time, has me saying this: stick with the stock kernel. It goes WAY lower if you like underclocking for battery (178!!) and it's smooth as butter with Intellidemand.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sk8oldschool74:
Does this come w/ gapps included in the ROM?

sent from my fnv supper ROM nexus using buggy XDA premium...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
I flashed 007 and Im impressed!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MrMarkEdward:
no you need to download gapps i believe he has link for it in op.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sk8oldschool74:
??? Oh 007 kernel gotcha....

sent from my fnv supper ROM nexus using buggy XDA premium...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
007 kernel
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] r47z:
Do you know if I can super dirty flash from v11 to v12? So that I don't have to setup everything over again. I've tried this when moving from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 with CNA.

Nandroid V11

Wipe system,cache,dalvik.

Flash v12, gaaps, settings fix.

Without booting up - nandroid restore advance - data only

Reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sk8oldschool74:
Is it the fnv boot animation or is there a new one???

sent from my fnv supper ROM nexus using buggy XDA premium...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] damngood98:
new one (but i'm not say what...better flash it to find out :p)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dyepnoodle:
another unsuccessful download when its on 99% someone please upload it on a diff server. i dont know why im experiencing this on goo. specially on xylon download. someone help pls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] damngood98:
here ya go :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kdo23:
Toro landscape keyboard is whacky. 012 no mods and persist even on system theme.

Clean flashed and the blah blah usual. Didn't look too far back for other reports either.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cpetersen2791:
Bummer...worked fine with my first shot. Did you use the website, or their app?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
back to xylon,

after knowing that CM-10.1 JellyBro won't adding NavBar Height Customization for ever.

for me Xylon 012 Experimental runs great.. :D

never get SOD on stock kernel, and stock kernel has the ability to customize its color profile, nice.

runs smooth and nice.

but some glitch at APN settings, it goes FC when opened.

anyway, any chance to get 2G/3G quick settings toggle?

the current one is 2G/Auto, there's no forced-to-3G settings.

you know, when you living on the edge of city,

there's a 3G connection, but it only has 1-2 bar, the point is 3G is exist there,

but the Auto settings never switch it to 3G, it stays on 2G.

also, about the camera app,

is there any way to stop the rotating animation (it's sluggish and ugly)

i know this is AOSP-fault / google thing, but it just seems wrong...

thank you Xylon Team.

nice ROM.. :D :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dyepnoodle:
thank you so much!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reggie cheeks:
Pm sent. My apologies for delay..

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
1. SODs are kernel related...the only kernel i have gotten SODs on is trinity

2. i was recommending franco but been getting less better in the newer version so i switched to 007 and its been working great

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you sure you flashed this rom lol? its working perfectly for me..

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you can try.. if you have issue clean flash
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marpipro:
+1 here. Any fix? I didn't clean flash so far. May that's reason.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
i did a clean flash.

and still got that.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.2.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kCelsius:
I did a clean install - seems to work for me so dirty flash may be your problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
i also clean flashed and dont get that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
:NO:

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.2.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
works for me as well bro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BAWS:
deleted .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smalss:
Try the settings fix on first page.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BAWS:
Then there is some hope that AOSP will get it aswell?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yosula:
For me flashing the settings fix of V11 solve the problem

Enviado desde mi Galaxy Nexus usando Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marpipro:
seems fixed with setting fix.

thnx
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ctscloud:
I have this issue too...any ideas on how to deal with this anyone?:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tim4828:
I guess there is a confusion over here. The problem happened when browse Settings->More...(at Data Usage) -> Mobile networks ->Access Point Names. Over here you will get FC. If you were to browse Settings->More...(at Data Usage) -> VPN, then you won't get the FC.

Workaround is provided by yosula.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marpipro:
before dirty flash i perform a /system format too. (cache,dalvick,format system) then i flash rom and gapps and i never had double gapps
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
dax might port it to this rom..

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use a file explorer go to /system/apps.. you will have 2 gallery apks delete one of them
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ctscloud:
Thanks...I was just wondering if there was a way without doing so. Kinda weird I have to do that on every update.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
use different gapps... i use the pa gapps and dont have this issue
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bartolinio:
so, fault gapps and the wines lack of standardization in the naming of programs

in various editions gapps applications have different names, such as:

gmail.apk vs. gmail2.apk

GoogleNow.apk vs. QuickSearchBox.apk

Exchange.apk vs. Exchange2.apk

GoogleMusic.apk vs. Music2.apk

Vending.apk vs. Phonesky.apk

gallery.apk vs. gallery2.apk

etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dannejanne:
Why the move to G+? It's a hell of a lot easier for people to just get acces to everyting in like, this thread. Far from everyone wants to or are even using G+ even though Google try to force us into doing so these days. I find G+ confusing and I can't seem to find rom downloads easily. I'm no idiot but can't even seem to find the sources. Sorry. But fail.

"Downloads are now here from now on"

Really? I don't see them on the page that link takes me to. Why make it this confusing and force people to use G+ is beyond my understanding.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
just check goo.im, if you dont want to go to g+

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agreed..the different names even cause issues with themes, it would be so much better if they started using the same name for apps
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dannejanne:
I hear goo.im sucks most of the time though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
you heard wrong.. it sucks ALL of the time lol, but the rom is uploaded there so no choice but to download from there, unless a mirror gets posted
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BAWS:
+Im with you on this one. I dont use G+ either.

Why not keep everything on XDA like all other developers?

SVERIGE!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrm43:
+1.

I have been to g+ and started following daxmax. Also followed the link on the first page. I can't find the v12 link on g+. Can we just request that you bring back the download links on first page. Is it that hard to do to put links here. We love your rom but it's so frustrating to find the files on g+.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
Bookmark this:

http://goo.im/devs/daXmax/xylon

He always upload it on there.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.2.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shriom_manerker:
why isnt pgm working ? :( it only locks my phone ! but unlock just wont work ! :( any recommendation of other kernels with pgm ? franco ? trinity ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
We're extremely sorry if you're finding us shifting to G+ hard. The Xylon website will be ready within a weak and will have all the links in a separate download section.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] soub31:
+1 happened to me on Trinity and stock kernel

No signature for you!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LifeInAnalog:
..that would be cool. I'm like everyone else in that I can't stand g+..but since the devs provide this excellent ROM for free, I don't have the right to say much. I'll jump through hoops to get the updates.

1LifeInAnalog on Twitter
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msmall22:
I was hoping you would say that ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pcphobic:
1. No SOD so far on build 011.

2. AK kernel 467.42 berserk.

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There are so many gapps out there. Can somebody pls compile one gapps with all the working stuff so that we only need to flash one official gapps that works with Xylon?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dannejanne:
Excellent thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psxsnake:
use official GAPPS and no problem

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1997547
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
works fine on all the kernels i have tried.. franco, zen, 007. stock

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yeah those work fine.. but jfyi they arent "official", official are posted at goo.im/gapps

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doesnt bother me..but nice to hear the website will be ready soon

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just flash rom and gapps dont flash justins inverted gapps = problem solved
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LibertyMonger:
Has anyone noticed an issue with the battery? Especially anyone who uses a spare, I replace my battery and it shows only charged around 90%, I realize it's probably the battery just checking since it only started doing it recently.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -Jesco-:
if you use spare , the OS will have to calibrate each one at the time the battery its used , the OS cant calibrate 2 batteries at the same time .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MrMarkEdward:
If you install Justunbeans inverted apps its a two step process.

First you need to download: Step1-jb-4.2only_gapps.zip

Second you need to download: Step2-JusTunBean_aroma.v6.1.zip

and install in that order

Now when it comes to install extras you dont want to instal contacts or mms cause they only offer aokp or cm versions and no matter what you install aokp or cm you will get fcs.

But I fully recommend installin these on a fresh rom install with a full wipe. I have no problems with JusTunBean
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psxsnake:
how can i remove arrow left right <-- and --> during writing?

i hate it :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bartolinio:
@psxsnake buuuuuu :)

this is a great addition, why do you hate? :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
JustunBean works very well, I always use it.

I also dont like those little arrows when writing but its not a big problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dratif:
Latest experimental build is a charm..loved the navigation bar glow effect..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SahilC:
Is it stock? Do we get an option for stock if not?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChazzMatt:
Yeah, the LINK is WRONG. Download are NOT there. It's just G+ page with random conversation. :)

We look forward to the promised website to fix the problem. But there's already a website where links can easily be found -- callled XDA. :) There was no problem before finding the latest ROM. Coming back to XDA would be an easier solution than going to G+ and then having to create a website to FIX that problem. Unless there's something we don't know? Is XDA charging you money or something?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dannejanne:
I solved this annoying bug by shifting the "back" button from slot1 to slot2 in the navbar. It was a heavily annoying bug specially when using the browser.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
Not ROM related:

I have a problem with PGM, during calls if I touch with my face on screen it always turns off the call, this also happened with me in another roms.

I tried with Franco and 007 Kernel. I deactivated and tested and I had no problems.

Other than that, the app works great, the problem is only during calls, I'll uninstall it.

I'm really enjoying this rom, so far, so great!!

Here's the download link for those who cant find it:

http://goo.im/devs/daXmax/xylon/maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrm43:
Do we still need to flash photosphere and settings fix from version 11 if we do a full wipe after flashing v12 and Gapps. Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
No. Just clean flash rom 12.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Khizar:
if you flash the 30-11 gapps from the op..then no you dont need to flash the fix

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yeah some ppl are having issues with pgm on 4.2, i personally dont have any issues
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dratif:
It is there by default.m sure u will love it..no u cant revert back to normal.but trust me this is lovely.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billouetaudrey:
Apn crash for me on v12 exp...

Envoyé depuis mon Galaxy Nexus avec Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shreddintyres:
Ok... For everyone whining about where the room is hosted or the move to g+. Dax and crew don't have to share the rom with us nor do they have to provide support for it in the manner that they do. Stop whining and be grateful they are taking the time to give us this rom. If they want to use g+ over xda that's their decision, deal with it. There is no need to clutter a development thread with a million I hate g+ or where are the dl links. Please keep the thread to development talk.

End rant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dannejanne:
But they don't need to make it hard to find. And we are entitled to speak our opinions just as you are.

Tapatalked
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LauraSakura:
It's mainly difficult for those of us who do all of our browsing on mobile. That being said though, downloads can always be found on goo.im in the Dev section for Daxmax

GNex // Toro // Xylon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BAWS:
+1 10char.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SahilC:
Chill, haha. No one is forcing them or anything. It's only our suggestions ;) it's not like we're gonna leave.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChazzMatt:
Uhmmm, discussion WHERE the download links are is a good reason for the so-called "clutter". Your rant has no logic. :rolleyes:

If they say, "here's the download links" and there's no download links there, that's a very valid reason for intense discussion.

Going to G+ was a solution for a problem that didn't exist. Now there IS a problem

Can't have "development talk" if people can't find,download and install the ROMs.

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Yes, but that's not the link they provided on the first page. It's the silly G+ page. Thus, all the complaints.

==========

V12 exp is very good so far. v11 was much better than v10 and v12 exp seems to be good as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
Okay let's stop the discussion about the G+ page. We'll soon be shifting to the official site. :) Probably in a couple of hours?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -Jesco-:
so fast ?! gotta say v12 is smooth ~
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
You know we love hearing that :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JRJ442:
I agree V12 is pretty awesome. Any chance we could get the copy to clipboard from aokp in Xylon?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vicino:
FC when manually add "Acess Point Names", anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shuino:
Does anyone know how to fix the System UI from crashing when toggling Bluetooth?

*Edit* This has been an issue since I started using the ROM (toro) on v7 or v8 I am now downloading v12 to see if the issue has been corrected.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arzbhatia:
Noted, thanks for reporting mate :)

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https://plus.google.com/u/0/115569516936113574583/posts/hxnR1RSngku
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stewroids:
Anybody noticing Google Services & Android OS taking up a large amount of the battery? Mine are almost up to 20%!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reaper000:
Thanks for apn fix. Would've been a deal breaker since I manually have to enter apns with every clean rom flash
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ben.nesheim:
has anyone thought of using the BROWSER to look at google plus maybe the links will show up there.... anywho

v12 with franco r342 has been beastly :) thanks oh so much
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LauraSakura:
That's the only way you can view it...

GNex // Toro // Xylon

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I'm still wondering what's different. I've tried to reproduce the issue, using alpha backgrounds, etc. I still haven't been able to.

GNex // Toro // Xylon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fayezkhan555:
Sorry to bother the DEVs but i have only one thing really needed to be include in this Rom and that is LED from AOKP. Will be very greatfull if added to this Rom. Rathers than that this is an awesome rom so far so good regarding battery life and smoothness wise{even on stock kernel).

I know there is third party s/w like light flow but don't like to use third parties
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JRJ442:
It already has CMs LED control. Not as fancy as AOKPs but does the same thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sveke:
V12 toro was a disaster for me....phone process stops and data loss

Back to v10 for now

Sent from my Gimp Grouper
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JRJ442:
Really? Thats odd. My toro has been running pretty good on V12. Did you do a full wipe?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fayezkhan555:
Yes i know that but in that charging LED is missing or may i don't know how to set it up?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SahilC:
Xylon plus trinity. Damn. So smooth. Amazing battery life. Got rid of all of my little lag here and there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JRJ442:
Well I don't think charging led is there but custom apps and values are. Settings > Display > Notification light. Select custom values if you want more than just text led notifications
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sveke:
Yeah full wipe....weird, every other version was perfect

Sent from my Gimp Grouper
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sheetzie03:
I'm new to Xylon. Really loving it so far. I heard you can change the soft keys out from within the rom. All the ROMs lV tried up to this point did not have this option. I'm looking inside the navbar settings and i dont see this option...sorry:(

Any help would be great. Ty

.....great rom!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
Tap on the icon you want to change in the navigation settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kdo23:
Chang your mobile network settings to lte/CDMA. The default is wcdma for whatever reason. Reboot and all will be good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sheetzie03:
Got it , thank you.

Hey is there somewhere others are getting different pngs for this ROM?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dyepnoodle:
flashing the settings fix for v011 solved that issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DieGo316:
Guys i got almost 6:30 hours of battery!! Amazing!!

Using v12 exp with f.kernel 342
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
U kidding, right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DieGo316:
No im not 7% and 6:40hours with 69% screen on :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
And what's good about that?

How many hours with screen on?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nadiros:
Is there a EXP 012 v2 link anywhere?

I see the changlog posted but can't navigate their G+ page very well....

Using this since the early builds and lovin it. Thanks for the work guys. 012 v1 just hasnt been friendly
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
There's no v2, that's a TO DO list afaik.

Anyway, all downloads are here:

http://goo.im/devs/Whitehawkx/maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yellowdie:
Uhhh..... I think you mean http://goo.im/devs/daXmax/xylon/maguro. And yes, the V2 has been released (look at the link).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sajty:
Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kdo23:
You'd be better showing your screen on time. Honestly that doesn't seem to impressive alone just showing 6ish hours before 16%, if screen on time is near 4 hour or something then you have something going.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] soub31:
Google + got community update!:)

No signature for you!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] masterchif92:
Why system OS uses 20% of battery now it sucks the kernel is the stock and i only get 7hrs of battery while with 009 i get 20hrs +
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kCelsius:
Just flashed 012 v2 over 012 v1 and the quick settings holo and quick swipe don't seem to work...anyone else?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkitab:
Why am i just now hearing about this ROM. It the best 4.2 ROM by far hands down.

I would love to know one thing how come now ROMs do lower than 24dpi. Would love 16 or low enough where can evenseelike I've seane a long time ago. So can use Nav bar ring without Nav bar actually there. This way isn't as much need for lmt launcher
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monk3y:
Very awesome the v12 build ! With stock kernel is good, do you think wiil i instal zen v13 kernel ? More speed ?

envoyé depuis la rom xylon / zen Kernel
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrm43:
Any changelog for v2? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DieGo316:
Check community page in google + under the changelog tab
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SahilC:
Guys! YES!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crea78:
Love the addition of favorite contacts in the notification toggles for v12, but will it be possible to add more than one contact in a future update?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iSeven:
please fix powermenu, not translate (russian)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stumpy352:
Ok, I hate to continue the discussion about g+, but I just updated to the new version, joined the community & I still can not find anywhere on g+ to get a freakin download. Do I have to turn notifications on & get a million notis a day and check each one to see whether someone's updated the rom or what? If I can't check in once a day to see if there's an update without reading miles of posts, I'm going elsewhere. Doesn't even seem to be a reason for this thread anymore. Sorry if this seems offensive, but I can't see why the dev can't 'maintain active download links' in his own thread like the xda rules state.

END RANT.

....memoirs of a flash addict.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeroxdown:
The phone apk keeps crashing when I try to call on v12 toro plus. Using ask 467 ak kernel. 20120812 gapps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nadiros:
Ok, once again awesome ROM been on board since the early FNV builds.

Now for bugs :) I have had barely an issue up to build 011, however build 012 had APN settings FC and PGM delays. Thankfully fixed in a jiffy

and now v2 after a clean install does not allow the changing of clock colour. This has always worked previously. Anyone else had this issue?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sergini:
I came here to say that, cant change clock colour, I like it white.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
No problem clock color here on a VZW GNex.

This is, honestly, the best ROM I've seen since the ICS Liquid. And that's a huge statement.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JRJ442:
Perhaps try the newest gapps. Looks like you're using gapps from August. Which would have been 4.1 anyway. Could be the issue http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121212-signed.zip
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeroxdown:
Oh I meant the 12082012 one, and I tried the latest one too with no success... I'm gonna reflash the ROM and see how it goes
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iSeven:
omg

Tried build 12..

Guys, what are u doing? Glow animation ugly, Bootanimation Ugly, Close all recent apps button moved to old place - dam!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -Jesco-:
it is an experimental build , the "close all recent apps" was moved to the bottom because most people find it easier for them to reach for it there . glow animation and boot animation you can change them yourself .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iSeven:
-Jesco-

Its not easy... its a sad.

I change animation anyway, but old was better, not perfect but better.

Glow ugly anyway
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billouetaudrey:
Hi, can you add backlight settings on next release plz ?

Envoyé depuis mon Galaxy Nexus avec Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iSeven:
Where i can find file to move close recent apps back, like in 11 build?