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[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
Yeah, I'm a prepaid/GSM newbie and the whole throttling thing threw me through a loop. @45$ you get what you pay for I guess. Straight talk has been fine for me and my wife in our area.
[Nexus 4 General] derschlub:
While Solavei service seems great on paper, I don't really want to support any company using multi level marketing.. Been doing a lot of research and I'm currently trying Platinum Tel (P-Tel).. Seems like they used to be a reliable Sprint MVNO that just switched to T-Mobile. $50/mo, unlimited Talk + Text and a clearly defined 2GB of HSPA+ before throttling. You can get a free SIM and $20 off your first month with SIMWOOT40 I think. Just speed tested it side by side with my TMo $30 plan and got the same 16mbps down and 1.5 up.

FYI, they're full sized SIMs so you'll need a cutter.

Edit: forgot url, http://platinumtel.com
[Nexus 4 General] robollama:
My parents both have ST phones purchased directly from Walmart (ie, not Nexus 4's). They always have service when I didn't (TMobile $30 prepaid) (or back when I had Sprint) and so I'd like to get their rock-solid service. How can I tell if their phones are using the AT&T or T-Mobile sim cards? I've also heard about the ST phones using both companies towers.... is this true?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
They could be on the CDMA straight talk system. That uses Verizon's network.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
If they are getting service they are using AT&T :p I am not aware of a phone that uses both services. I would look at the website and go to the bring your phone link. It will have you put in your zip when selecting the micro Sim. It will then tell you which carries it recommends by the Sim it brings up. IE the Sim it showed for me was AT&T micro Sim card.

That's what I would recommend to get the best service. If you still want to know your parents phone I would recommending using youtube for straight talk service. You used to be able to tell using the URL which provider the phone used. The only problem is that now they have 4 coverage maps and not 2. I am not sure how to read it anymore.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Wow that's a crock. I do the same as you times ten+..... I'd get on Facebook and open a ticket. They should re-provision you in 30mins.

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If you were on tmo and had no service while they did. And they have a Sim card. It is most likely att. But I would do a search on hofo to find out what the designations are on the Sims. I would look but I'm replying from my phone.

As for using both networks, you're correct. They have a roaming contract between them but you'll only have data through your main, which ever you chose.

YMMV

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If the phone has a "C". It is running on Sprint. They barely have phones on Verizon.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
? http://techtips.salon.com/straight-talk-same-coverage-verizon-20246.html

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/Straight_Talk

http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpd...siteType=&market=GSM4SPRCO&gotoPhonelist=true

You can try you own zipcode. But pretty much since HQ is here in Miami and there is decent coverage for all four carriers ST contracts with, you can see almost all their offerings.

Like it mentioned in the hofo wiki "C" designation denotes CDMA phones, which are either Verizon or Sprint (all androids).

LG 100C, Samsung S380C and LG 511C are the ones that might use Verizon's network.

NOTE: That Proclaim and Zip android phones show red map coverage and different wording. It's new and perhaps the exception.

Speculated reason is that Verizon doesn't offer much of a discount and would prefer not to saturate/crowd their network with mvno users not willing to pay their premiums. Although Page Plus does have a good offering.
[Nexus 4 General] lakedubvt:
I have just been throttled as well, on AT&T ST. Only used a little over 1.3GB.

I have opened a ticket, how do they respond? By email? Or is there a way to view your ticket?

Now I am thinking about trying Black Wireless it is $60 a month for unlimited talk/text with 2GB of data. Anyone heard or used them before? . http://www.blackwireless.com/

T-Mobile is terrible in my area, so have to be with someone that uses AT&T
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
I opened a ticket last night, and today I got an email response saying to clear my cache & cookies on my web browser and reboot the phone, completely useless. I guess ill try calling calling them later, but there's no way I'm gonna be doing this every month.
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
Doesn't look too bad. I'll have to find a good prepaid carrier for my wife as it looks like at&t st is getting more ridiculous
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
Think I am going to try them after the first of the month. Need to see if an AT&T go phone will work with them. I want to use my Nexus 4 and also add a go phone that my mom uses. Right now I am paying $25 a month for the go phone for 250 minutes. They offer 200 minutes a month for only $10. So would be $70 a month for both phones.
[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
Any ideas what happens after 2gb? Throttle or no data at all? I looked around, but couldn't find anything.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
I'm going to get a hold of black wireless and ask a few questions, I will post answers when I get them.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
also ask if they throttle down to 2g after the first 500mb, like H2O does. they are both owned by the same company (Locus) so I'm thinking its a good possibility that they do.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
OK, they are only available Monday to Friday.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
I was gonna call them yesterday, but I ended up ordering a sim from solavei since they're free first month deal ends on the 31st. but I'm still interested in seeing what black has to offer, I can't seem to find a single review for them on the web
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
OK, got a hold of Black Wireless. Below is my chat transscript.

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Chat Transcript

02:07:31 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] I have a couple questions

02:23:46 AM [Sam] Yes How can I Help you?

02:24:32 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] Questions:

1) Will an AT&T Go Phone work on your system.

2) What happens after 2gig of data, is data throttled, or cut off. Also, is data

throttled before 2gig in any way.

02:26:03 AM [Sam] 1. AT&T Go Phones will work with our service

02:26:27 AM [Sam] 2. After the 2 gig of data has been used the phone will not allow you to surf the web

02:27:22 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] OK, thank you, to be clear, data is NOT throttled before 2gig in any way?

02:27:45 AM [Sam] No data is not throttled at all

02:27:53 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] Its 3g/4g data up to the 2 gig limit?

02:31:19 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] Hello?

02:31:33 AM [Sam] Correct

02:32:12 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] OK, thsnkyou for your time, I will be ordering service in the next day or two before my T-Mobile plan comes due again.

02:33:45 AM [Black Wireless Visitor] Have a good day and a Great New Year

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The AT&T Go Phone is just a dumb phone that I am going to add for my mom who only uses like 100-200 minutes a month, no text or data. They have that for $10 for 200 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
thanks for the info! I may have to try this one out down the road for my wife. I assume it will work on the N4 or any other AT&T phone, not just an actual Go Phone?

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how's ptel working out for you so far? just curious.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
Yes, no problem with the N4, when you place an order you can select Standard, Micro, or Nano sim.

The AT&T Go Phone is a phone my mom has. I'm paying $25 a month with AT&T for 250 minutes a month. With Black Wireless, it will only cost me $10 a month for 200 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
hmmmm interesting... the throttle before 2 gigs was all I was worried about. if solavei doesn't work out I'll be giving these guys a shot next
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
I ordered 2 Sims today, one standard for my moms dumb phone and a micro for my N4. They called me about an hour after I placed my order to verify and said it would ship Wednesday.

I have T-Mobile now, but only have 2g service where I'm at. I love the signal, there is a tower about 1 1/2 mile from my house. AT&T has 3g/4g service all around here. That is why I'm switching. I will keep an eye on T-Mobile and if they ever get 4g service around here, I will probably switch back. Have never had any problem with them it the 3 years I've been with them.
[Nexus 4 General] lakedubvt:
Just activated my Black Wireless sim. 2GB (unthrottled they say) for $55 using promo code: 1128R

Getting speeds of 3.5-6 Mbps down with the following APN:

Name: Black Wireless

APN: att.mvno

Port: 80

MMSC: http:mmsc.cingular.com

MMS proxy: 66.209.11.33

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Apn type: default, supl, hipri

I was only getting speeds around 1 Mbps with the recommended APN on their site.

I have not been able to get MMS to work yet with the APN I am using, but I use Google Voice so it really doesn't matter.

I will keep you guys updated if I get throttled, but so far I am happy with my move away from Straight Talk.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
Thanks, I will have my Black Wireless sim tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] derschlub:
Same exact speeds and service as my previous T-Mo $30/mo plan. When I get closer to the end of the month I'm gonna push my data usage to see if the throttling starts right at 2GB, but so far so good. Bought a couple extra sim kits so I can keep the promo rate of $30 for another month on both our phones, but I'm cool with $50/mo for what I'm getting right now.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
OK, I've made the switch to Black Wireless, and all seems good so far, porting my number took 24 minutes.

Have not been able to test speeds yet, my plan says there is not enough money on the account.

Waiting on hold. Had the same problem on the $10 / 200 minute talk plan I did for my Mom, took them 5 minutes to fix, so I don't see a problem. Just need to wait a few. Will report back later on how it goes.
[Nexus 4 General] K0dos:
You have to unlock your Google voice number in order to port it. There may be a $3 charge unless you ported a number in to Google. You should then get a new number assigned to Google voice.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
OK, everything is working. Did an online chat, 10 minutes later they called my cell phone to make sure everything was working and if I needed anything else. So far really great customer service. At my house I am right on the edge of 3G service area. So I only get Edge, my speeds are only about 128k. But I use wifi at home, so no big deal. That 128k is still 5 times faster than my T-Mobile speed ever was. This weekend I will be able to test data speeds. 4 miles north at my sisters there is 3g/4g service. Also signal is better for talk / texting, so all in all I think I will be happy. Just need to see over the month about throttling if any.

So right now I would highly recommend them.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Not sure if your settings work with black wireless, but I can tell you your mmsc is missing "//"and your apn type is missing "mms"
[Nexus 4 General] Uh60m Pilot:
I am confused how this thread got on black wireless? What does that have to do with straight talk? You all know you could start a "black wireless" thread. I have not read anything useful in this thread in weeks.

Sorry to sound pike an ass but this is pointless.

sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] bmoke:
Deflated and frustrated, at the moment. Received my new Nexus 4 late Friday afternoon and have been struggling into early Saturday morning, without any success to send or receive jeven 1 MMS message. The phone, otherwise, works well. Signal strength at my house is now 4 bars. But, I need the MMS. No amount of configuration changes worked. I read many many posts about all the issues, others had. No luck on my end, however. I tried everything. I want to cry.

Using ST for AT&T. Not sure if I selected a sim card option incorrectly, to cause any of this heartache. There were 2 applicable options. A sim card for an Unlocked GSM phone, or a sim card for an AT&T compatible phone. In one post on XDA, someone said get the sim card Not for the Unlocked GSM. So, if it matters, I selected the AT&T compatible phone sim card. YES, yes. I know the Nexus is unlocked. So, firstly, did I select the wrong sim card. Is this a possible reason why I cannot send/receive MMS.

Second, the sim card insertion fit is tight. Have others thought about how much effort is required to push the card home. I pulled it out at the conclusion of my MMS follies, this morning, BUT, will not be re-inserting it, unless I sand it down. Really. A tight fit. Any thoughts?

Voice, plain text messages, the internet all worked well, with good signal strength. Only MMS was an issue, a total issue.
[Nexus 4 General] ianeb:
Just thought I'd share my recent experience with a faulty Nexus 4.

The phone is awesome I love it but over the last couple of weeks the top of the phone has become, creaky/lose/click. Can't really describe it any other way. The slightest pressure on the front or back causes the click noises and slight pressure on the sides around the volume and power buttons causes the side to slightly move and creak.

Have also discovered the speaker buzzing which now annoys me too.

I bought the phone from an O2 store in the UK 6 weeks ago so after a phone call to Google support I returned the phone this morning and asked for an exchange. They refused point blank to entertain the fact I was entitled to exchange my faulty phone. I even presented Googles follow up email suggesting I return it for an exchange or refund.

I ended up in an argument with the useless worker who then walked away and wouldn't acknowledge me!

She told me since I was (just) outside my 28 days return policy O2 were no longer responsible for the phone. She also told me she didn't care what the consumer law is, her till would not allow her to process an exchange.

I left fuming, called Google again who apologised but still could not help me and told me to call LG.

I don't see why I should be without a phone for a week because a barely 6 week old has developed 2 faults.

I have now lodged a complaint with my credit card company who are investigating and could end up refunding me the full amount of the phone.

When I was mad I was all up for just getting another iphone as this never would have happened with Apple. They have replaced and repaired phones in store regardless of where I've bought them in the past..

Now I've calmed down, I just want another nexus 4 without the faults. I think Google need to step up and start accepting they need to offer an after sales experience to match or better apples. It can't happen over night I know but they really do need to start putting it in to place. They have grown relatively quickly in terms of supplying their own devices but they didn't have anything in place to back it up and they still don't.

I was shocked that O2 told me it wasn't their responsibility anymore, but even more shocked that Google told me it wasn't really down to them it was now LG who were to deal with it. It's just a bit of a mess, too many middle men. Google should be acting like apple, it's their device, regardless if where you buy it apple will repair or replace an iPhone there and then in store.

I'm hoping my credit card company can resolve this, all I want is an exchange!
[Nexus 4 General] Evil_munki:
Sorry to hear that ianeb, hopefully you get things sorted since the device is amazing...
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Interestingly enough black wireless aka h20 use the same apn settings as straight talk. So what att does automatically to one att.mvno it does to another. Neither have control over throttling data either but AT&T will throttle abusers regardless. Same for h20, redpocket, solavei and black wireless no matter what the provider claims.

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Arg hate posting on my phone, deleted half of my detailed reply for you and don't feel like retyping it.. But here goes again.

Yes the sim fits tight. If you consider it's trying to make sure the 6 connectors make contact with the sim without space between or to allow any movement. To prevent corrosion and no sim inserted problems. So don't sand it or mod it! Do NOT force it in either!

Mms issue; edit your working data apn. Remove the info for mmsc, mms proxy and mms port, save. Now add a new apn. Name it straight talk mms. Enter att.mvno for apn. Now enter the mms settings only, as per straight talk's instructions. Add apn type "mms", save.

Send / receive mms.. You might either have to toggle mobile data or reboot for it to work. I didn't have to. It just worked.

Hope that helps.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Alright. I was reading up on it and some people have been complaining about how slow ST is to take accept the ported number.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I don't know how it works for gv. But If you request a port via their online system and turn off your phones, wait for 20 mins then turn on your new phone / sim only, everything should be working after you complete editing your new apn.

If you decide to leave your old phone on during the process it may take longer, as your old phone will still be registered with the old network / towers and may not be able to update until it un-registers 2,24-48 hours later...

Mine was supposedly done in less than 20 mins, but I couldn't check until 2 hours later. YMMV
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
Below is the APN I am using with Black Wireless and MMS is working GREAT.

Name: Black Wireless

APN: att.mvno

Proxy: Not Set

Port: Not Set

Username: Not Set

Password: Not Set

Server: Not Set

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS Proxy: 66.209.11.33

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Authenication type: Not Set

APN type: default,mms,supl,agps,fota,hipri

APN protocol: IPv4

APN roaming protocal: IPv4

APN enable/disable (Greyed Out)

APN enabled

Bearer: Unspecified
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
No spaces in APN type either after the commas: default,supl,hipri(whatever this is),mms
[Nexus 4 General] bleys121:
Sorry Straight Talkers time to switch to going direct with T-mob's truly unlimited data available prepaid. No more Throttle worries. Is any one as excited about this as I am?

http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-offer-truly-unlimited-data-monthly-4g-prepaid-plans
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
I guess thats great news if you actually use more than 5gb of data. I barely hit 1.5gb so Im happy saving the extra money and sticking with ST.
[Nexus 4 General] ziggy34:
I just switched to Black Wireless from T-Mobile. I would have stayed with T-Mobile if I had more than just 24kbps Edge service in my area. 3g/4g T-Mobile service is about 45 minutes in any direction. But YES I would have switched to the new unlimited plan in a heart beat if I had good coverage.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
I like tmo too bad building penetration sucks. I at least need to get and make calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
Hey all, I created a broader prepaid thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2084063

Let's leave this thread specific to Straight Talk questions and concerns, and move all other prepaid chat to above.
[Nexus 4 General] Noncon:
I believe ST only has one micro-sim, and that is for AT&T, so if you didnt have to cut it, it is the correct one. Your problem is APN settings, the APN TYPE: is crucial to getting mms to work. Keep searching, not just this forum, but everywhere and you will find the correct settings. I think I got lucky and the settings for ST worked perfectly. Purchased a HTC One X for my GF using tmobile, and those settings were useless, she could not send/receive MMS (she was gonna dump it and go back to her Blackberry....WTF?). I finally got her the correct apn type, after hours of searches, now works perfectly.

Kj
[Nexus 4 General] bmoke:
Thanks for the response. Not having MMS was very deflating. As you said, searches of the web were (are) important. I thought I hit every one of them. I will look some more, of course. I may give a shout to ST CS first, on Monday.I am exasperated right now. Basically, almost anything entered in the first section of a two APN config, will work. I sent at least 3 or 4 dozen MMS tests, to and from my phone. Not one was successful. Still looking for the holy grail.

About the SIM card. I applied fine sandpaper to the plastic face. It wipe the printed SIM card serial number away. I only removed 6 mils of material. Now, the card slides right in without any interferences, just like any other SIM I have around the house. The N4 SIM card and tray were actually about 5 mils thinner then the combo I pulled from an old iPhone 3G. But everything is good now. Other posts I have seen said that ST CS had the users pulling and reinserting the SIM cards repeatedly, during troubleshooting. So, mechanically, I wanted a smooth interface. I got it now.

FWIW, my old Verizon service worked, in general. Except, at home I only got 1 bar, many dropped calls, and not the best call quality. Oh yes, and MMS Did work on that HTC Incredible. But the AT&T signals are great. Never less than 3 bars, mostly full, four bars. MY point is that spotty or non-existent MMS is not the problem of a weak signal, as far as I can tell. I got signal.

I also came across one post, somewhere, that said the settings needed time to recover. That is, you needed to wait 30 to 60 minutes, before the MMS settings migrated to/from/across, whatever, and were then active in the phone. Huh? And, another post said that they user contacted ST and ST then RESET the SIM, and that corrected the MMS problem. Rest the SIM? So many variables ? So, there have been many reported solutions. Then, factor in last week. Like last week (Christmas Day and Christmas Eve), Netflix was Down. Netflix was down? Yes. I screwed with my router and for 45 minutes, before I checked on-line to find that the Netflix service WAS down. Unbelievable. So, in the back of my head, I am always wondering, well, maybe it is/was a system glitch and my settings were/are ok.

I was not at home yesterday, so in a bit I will access the N4 and see what there is too see. Checked here first, this morning. If you have any other thoughts, you can always drop a PM.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
You can open a ticket on facebook. Its the fastest reply you can get.
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
I switched to ST ATT sim back in May when I got my Gnex. The whole time I had it I could never get MMS working consistently no matter what APN's I used. Two weeks ago I switched to the T-Mo sim on ST and my MMS have been working perfectly since.

Maybe its just the ATT network for ST or whatever but it was driving me crazy. If you just google "straight talk mms issue" you get like a hundred links.

Either way, try switching to the T-Mo sim. I see you are in NJ also and I have to tell you, I havent had any loss in signal with T-Mo. They must have really upgraded their towers in the last 5 years here.
[Nexus 4 General] jimmiekain:
Here is a video I did its a few speed tests in Brea, California. Its a N4 w/ straight talk sim on AT&T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tKFuhotmKA
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
What are you guys using for you APN? I'm using the stock Straight Talk one and I was wondering if there is a better one I should use. Thanks!