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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kanes_Inferno:
I envy all of you with my 5MB AT&T DSL *hangs head in shame*

As far as the update, I'm just hoping we get it before the end of the month. I could care less about JB, it'll be nice yes..but I'm hoping the update fixes the contacts lag.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
what contacts lag?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xHausx:
Any data limits with them? They're going to be getting some serious competition with Google fiber running around 750mb/s
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vader860:
Fios doesn't limit bandwidth...at least not yet. I have their 50/25 and get 60/50 lol on WiFi. They are better than other providers in NYC.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
No data limits, at least so far.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lawnguy:
When is google fiber slated for use?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rippley05:
Lol no offense Haus.. But I think Motorola is dropping JB for several phones too.. The only other android phone manufacturer that matters is LG.. So far HTC is getting smashed on the update.

There's really no excuse for it. HTC is dead in the water Imo :P
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kmyerslp:
Google fiber has already been installed in some houses. My friend is 30th in line, slated for spring of 2013.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vader860:
Google Fiber in NYC is just like Sprint LTE in NYC....ain't gonna happen soon enough to make a difference now. :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rank78:
The thing that pisses me off is I've said multiple I'm open to buying from competitors due to HTC slacking with updates on all 3 gens of EVOs but when the time comes the EVO is still the best phone on Sprint. I'd love a Nexus for the fastest updates but the specs are never competitive enough to justify it. I've sworn never to buy Samsung ever since the Instinct but between their success with the Galaxy line and faster updates I don't think I can ignore them anymore. If it wasn't for the damn HTC camera drivers and whatever else that prevents devs from turning out fully functional source-built ROMS for the EVO then I wouldn't be as frustrated. The improved camera was one of the reasons I gave this gen EVO a chance, so seems silly for me to sacrifice that for the few features I'd get with JB.

/rant
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] notsointeresting:
Oop. No update. So much fuss
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rippley05:
Well said. I'm running cm10 but I definitely miss the sense camera. I've been an avid Samsung hater but there are S3s all around me and that is a damn nice phone. I still prefer HTC but it's only a slight edge. When the s4 drops, I have no doubts that HTC will lose me and many other fans.

JB isn't all that of a ground breaking update. There will only be subtle differences in Sense.. The delay is just mind numbing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] celticking:
After jumping to cm10, I get the feeling that the JB update to sense will still not feel smooth as butter.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
why?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xHausx:
There are already people using it in KCMO, as for it being widely available I have no idea though

Well, moto is owned by google now :)

Although you're right that HTC has been horrible when it comes to updates and releasing source code. I honestly think it's just a matter of time before someone sues them for violating gpl and using it as a way to gain an advantage.

Samsung has even started releasing the kernel sources before the device, so they can't use them as an excuse anymore.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
A. Moto releases suck... They are closer to stock than HTC builds and easier to code + they look like crap...

B. Go buy a moto phone and leave it stock... I dare you.

C. Samsung source code releases are crap... They are better off than HTC devs in some ways but the kernel source they release is almost always bugged and a mess

D. HTC updates are 3 times the file size of other manufacturer updates. Thats because there is twice the effort involved in making the update.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] raclimja:
PROOF?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/11/30/droid-razr-ics-bug-fix-still-missing/
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] treIII:
I wonder if htc is ever intelligent enough to look at any blogs or xda? They are losing money and going to continue to lose even more money. Their customer base is leaving. There is proof all over xda. But I suppose they are not very concerned with those of us who change their phones ourselves. They design the phone the way they want it. They update the phone when they want too. But I do know this phone is no longer the flagship for sprint. The sgs3 is destroying this phone in many ways. And being marketed in a much better way than the evo at this point. At my local sprint store they push the sgs3 and will tell you it is a better phone so if you are going to buy one of the two to by the Samsung. This even occurred at the local corporate store. I'm a true fan of htc but we all must admit they are their own worst enemy at this point.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
Sad story there because the EVO 4G LTE is the better device.... Marketing is indeed killing HTC but truth be told, people complaining about this update are not the majority of Sprints EVO owning base. All of us here are the minority and the hell if flashy commercials or updates are going to make me leave HTC.... Walk up to the next person you see with a EVO or hell, with ANY Android device and ask them what Jelly Bean is or what version of Android they are on.

In do wish we could get a FN leak though, not too worried about a full update.... They got that HTC dev ship locked up tight! :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
HTC is obviously shooting itself in the foot with developers but you gotta remember, xda is a small fry.... If you were to poll smartphone owners, 99% what answer "what's xda?". Among non-root smartphones, HTC smartphones are excellent. And for a company like HTC that has seen profits plummet, its completely understandable for them to focus on their largest group of customers. Unfortunately, that's not us.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
all though xda is small we have a large impact on the industry how many of us have friends and family that ask us for advice and we give them it. then if they like it they pass it alojng to their friends etc.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
No.. Have you ever seen those companies even acknowledge us? They try to cater to app developers and such but us Rom flashers have little to no impact on their business model... If anything, they want to get rid of us because of the idiots who show up at their stores claiming TEP complaining that the GPS isn't working on the latest CM10 release.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rippley05:
I fail to see your logic. Just because the majority of android users don't know what xda is doesn't mean they don't know about OS updates. I don't see how being excruciatingly slow on updates is focusing on their larger group of customers.. I honestly don't see HTC focusing on anything.

They release a phone the it seems they ignore it until they finish their next phone. It's a mess. HTC isn't as clean with their source as you make them out to be either..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pbedard:
http://www.popherald.com/news_20121201_one_x_jelly_bean_upgrade-21326

More HTC bull crap no love for us
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
they will treat this phone just like they did the evo og

watch and see, by next year may it will be EOL (end of life)

maybe earlier
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] igotlostintampa:
haha.

That is terrible! "lets give the phone that is technically weaker JB 4.1.1, then JB 4.2

"...hey mark, um should we put some kinda effort into that..what was it...Evo, something, lte?"

"Well im glad you asked jerry, and generally my answer would be why do that? does anyone even own one, i mean why would they? the One x is out...."

jesus man.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
The vast majority of people pick the phone because of how well its advertised, reviewed, and features. Rootability is not a priority for 90% of customers and therefore its not a priority for HTC. HTC phones have top-notch screens, cameras, processors, are released with the latest version of Android, and have fancy software features. And based on overall reviews they are second only too apple and have been for a long time. Source: http://www.jdpower.com/content/pres...aditional-mobile-phone-satisfaction-study.htm
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xHausx:
Yeah, we don't even need to go on about Motorolla, they're reputation is as low as it gets. The issue here is HTC and how their reputation went from being one of the most developer friendly brands to mediocre and increasingly distant from the community. But, more specifically, this thread is about the next update everyone is awaiting.

Still, to say they never acknowledge us or the modding community is just flat out wrong. They do have reps here, who have actually posted in this section, and it's hard to over look the fact that they let you unlock the bootloaders now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
I'm done arguing with impatient people.. -.- We WILL get the update.. And when we do, you'll start demanding 4.2 jellybean instead and complaining about bugs. We have really good sense based ICS roms that are much better than any Touchwiz build will ever be. The grass is not always greener.

Edit:

Your right, sorry...:( Just a little frustrated with the hate.. I know they have tried to help but I can't see us factoring much into their business plan... As proven by Samsung's kernel source, most support is more for show than anything else.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
no no its more like , "...hey Chi-ming, um should we put some kinda effort into that..what was it...Evo, something, lte?"

"Well im glad you asked Jia-hao, and generally my answer would be why do that? does anyone even own one, i mean why would they? the One x is out...."

http://www.esl99.com/forjobseekers1.php?nid=8398
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
If they mess up (royally) an update, 100% of their customer base (with the device) feels it. Right now, the majority of said base is pretty damn happy with the device and how it's working on ICS. Said majority also doesn't even know we are in line for an update and are (as stated before) just fine. We are such a small sliver of the LTE holders and truth be told, anything they mess up, someone in our small community will fix for us. Everyone else has to suffer. (WOOT FOR ROOT!)

Also, keep in mind, this is as much on Sprint as it is on HTC. We know they (HTC) have the JB and Sense build in place for our family of devices. Sprints bloat package and specs have to be injected into and then tested (hopefully thoroughly) so we don't get pile of crap. The result of that is now all (us the minority and the majority device holders alike) of us are pissed off at Sprint AND HTC but really, mostly Sprint for letting the update come to us all a mess.

I'm pretty sure that even if you fail to see the logic (we are yet a drop in a bucket), would you at least agree that a hurried and buggy (very buggy as we already know Sprint doesn't do the best job of debugging in the first place) release just for the sake of making a release, is in NO ONES best interest?

I want JB but I want it right, for the sake of our bleeding hardware mfg and our service provider of choice that really doesn't need any (more) upset subscribers.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ckoadiyn:
sprints bloat package isnt as bad as vzw or att's tho thank god lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
Well at least we have that. :D

I will say, after using JB AOSP based roms vs ICS based and seeing just how fast (and how well, even without driver's) the dev of JB started by those already working on ICS, this is probably going to be a pretty anticlimactic bump. (at least for those that are all "I'm gonna leave HTC butt hurt" upset over the timing) None the less, looking forward to starting the dev cycle on our favorite roms all over again but with a big head start.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drob311:
What are you talking about? This phone is a one X variant. Just because they don't specifically mention the exact model name doesn't mean squat. We should see the update 1-2 months after the over seas one X... I'm pretty sure that the one X on U.S. carriers hasn't gotten the j.b. update either.

Stomping your feet and getting pissy isn't going to make the update come faster. :beer:

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Only thing I'm going to point out is that they don't really have a build for our family yet... ATT OneX is still waiting on their end... And last I checked the INT OneX is getting more leaks freq as they try to fix a few things so maybe just maybe it is HTC trying to fine tune this JB build before moving on?... Never know in the end really though.... Esp with the last OTA we got and how it was missing things the ATT version had in its earlier OTA... Real odd how crap like that happens in the end of things...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] igotlostintampa:
Lol

Lol.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
I agree with the dudes who say the phone is fine with ICS, except for the contact lag, that pisses me off.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrrogers1:
I spose you are right. Wish we could get a leak. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
HAHAHA! I can't even read this article past the first part because of this:

They must not be familiar with HTC.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Been trying thus far man. Believe me. Lol

Unfortunately those that are getting stuff recently said they hadn't seen much...either there isn't anything there yet or they are being tight nipped...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ra-da-god:
Glad I finally worked up the nerve to get s-off, running meanrom while I wait on a more stable cm10 with maybe a better camera not looking back....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pbedard:
I saw that link on phandroid
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vader860:
Regardless if the phone is running perfectly on ICS, which its not, it should not be up to sprint to decide if customers want to or not. Google should put in a clause to force timely updates if the devices support them. The phone is based off of android. Google releases fairly frequent updates. We deserve timely updates, period! If someone doesnt like the latest and greatest, then android is not right for them.

No JellyBean and no LTE. Classic bait and switch. :mad:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
as soon as something worthy on sprint comes along im jumping ship

im up for an upgrade next may, so...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
Really don't see what all the fuss is about. It's not like jelly bean is going to change your life and beam UFO coffee to your jugular thru the Starbucks app.

You actually wouldn't even know u had it unless u looked in settings to see what android version u have.

There's nothing game changing about it at all is all I'm saying.

Not like sprint came to your village and held your family hostage with jelly beans just out of their grasp until they starved to death.

Then I could see someone being crazy enough to demand jellybeans or death. And sprint killed your family as well, so you should cancel your contract and not pay a peso to end it.

But whatever, kinda useless post since no one that impatient will read this far. No one pays attention to me on here most the time anyways so boobity booblah....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] vader860:
You'll jump ship to the same ship you are on now with a different name. Patchy LTE is not LTE. Sprint gambled with WiMAX and they lost big. Now we are all stuck.

JellyBean is like Windows 8. The everyday user may not notice any difference. But the power users know and see what is new and improved beneath all of the hay. :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jauger:
Chubb & Sac have a Sense 4.5 out there and I think Football is releasing OneX JB RUU's so it's just a matter of time before some great ports start popping up...I've had the Evo 4g & Evo 3d and updates like these felt like they were always 6 months behind everyone else...and I may be wrong but Sprint has to pay HTC for these major updates, and I dont see the LTE getting JB till the next flagship phone is released, just like the 3d didnt get ICS till the LTE was released, then just to get rid of the leftover stock..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] youdug:
Chubbz and lyon are currently working on a 4.1.2 4+ port. Lyon posted a screenshot the other day on another site. Im almost certain the 4.5 chubbz and sac did was still ics.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jauger:
Yeah it was a Sense 4.5 version on top of ICS, but now theres a JB leak out for the OneX I'm thinking they are cooking up something awesome...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] KaoMinerva:
Swear to god if that happens I'm on NOTE 2 SVDO or not. No reason to hold an update that long when you've had it ahead of time & this phone is more than capable of running 4.2!

***Your Tears Are Sweet Ladies & Social Rejects***
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
There are a couple factors as to why this probably isn't accurate.

First, the update isn't a whole number update. The changes from ICS to Jelly Bean aren't as significant as the update was for the EVO 3D from Gingerbread To ICS.

Second, the camera was a BIG problem with getting ICS over to the EVO 3D. Because it was a 3D camera, there was extra work. That's why a lot of the developers had problems porting ICS over to the EVO 3D, and actually having a 3D camera, or even a working camera at all.

Third, the device is still a flagship device through Sprint/HTC. It's part of the One-series, and would be treated the same way. We will probably see 4.2 out of the device eventually, but may not make it past that because the phone will be replaced by next year's HTC model for Sprint.

There was something else that I forgot, and it was a huge point, but I'll add that later.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] notsointeresting:
HTC right now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kanes_Inferno:
Haha, thanks I needed that. Rough day at the office, that is priceless.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
Ugh, I really hate them.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jauger:
My point was enjoy the JB ports cause judging by the track record of EVOs ( EVO 4g got Gingerbread when 3D was released, 3D got ICS when 4g LTE was released and LTE is stuck now waiting for JB and I don't see any new EVO's being released till April....
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mammothjojo88:
While I see some truth to it, remember froyo? Nothing came out on sprint side that had 2.2 it was the first phone to get it. Here are my two cents, I think we will get jellybean after the one x does on at&t

When will they get it is the million dollar question. Its released in Europe and other countries first before here.

Till then enjoy a beer and this comic :beer:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
Yeah, but the OG EVO came with 2.1 Eclair, then was updated to Froyo and then Gingerbread. Those were steady incremental updates. The EVO 3D didn't get much because it came with 2.3, and waited for ICS which was a HUGE update along with all of the extra hurdles because of it's screen and cameras. Jelly Bean is an incremental update, and should be treated as such. It shouldn't take this long.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mammothjojo88:
Thanks for that clarification. I meant 2.1 also. Lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jauger:
My bad, lol...forgot about Froyo, now those suppressed memories of the HTC Hero and Cupcake to Eclaire have resurfaced...ack!...oh well I do hope Jelly Bean does drop soon, I can't wait to scream for Key Lime Pie next...Hmmmm pie...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
Key Lime Pie is literally my favorite desert. I don't like cake at all, so my birthdays and other gatherings usually involve this to make me happy. I'm rather spoiled by my family and peers.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
We got 4.0.4 within a couple weeks of the Att One X. Once 3 weeks have passed after they get their update, then you can start your naysaying and I'll just ignore it But the EVOLTE is NOT the 3vo. Period.

And all the people saying there is no update or that we'll be waiting half a year are just being plain dumb.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
I'm quite happy with what I got now. Mean rom 6.4 with oc kernel, timberwolf black gloss theme and Notsointeresting's jet skin. If we get the update, it will be awhile before the devs and themes get everything perfect again
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
All I want is for the update to get rooted. That's all I'll need, and I'll be alright, until I realize what I'm missing from 4.2.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] hlywood01:
Camera

My issue is that I bought this phone over the SGSIII because of the camera features and the only way that I'm aware of to keep the camera working as it does in Sense is to stay stock (or stock rooted). Are their any ROMs out there that have the camera features that come with the Sense camera (continuous shooting and taking stills while shooting video)? If I could get the same quality camera on a root and ROM device, I would be flashing in a heartbeat at this point.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rxpert:
any sense based Roms have the sense camera
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jauger:
The Mean and SuperLTE roms have the HTC Sense 4.5 Camera....try em out...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubyknight:
Err... All of them.... :confused: And why ask that here?

All of the sense roms I've tried do... Meanrom ics is the one I'd recommend
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jspsuperman:
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/03/jelly-bean-motorola-droid-razr-maxx-hd/

This kinda makes me sad :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Genjinaro:
LOL, let me kick you while you're down:

Epic 4G Touch (SGS 2)

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...bean-ota-update-for-epic-4g-touch-build-fk23/

Transformer Prime

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ng-update-10-4-2-17-heres-the-full-changelog/

International SGS 2

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...y-sii-i9100-gets-leaked-4-1-2-jelly-bean-rom/

& here is the DDT!!! :silly: :D

Motorola (The turdiest, when it comes to developers... Unitl)

U.S. Soak test

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...test-drive-program-youll-need-to-sign-up-for/

SGS 3 (Canada, every carrier lol in one big swoop)

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...i-on-bell-telus-sasktel-and-rogers-in-canada/

Still, I'm patient. Unlike many, I had no expectation out of any said date so 2012 will still be early in my opinion. :p

My phone is in tip-top-condition.

However, I draw the line in the sand if either the LG Viper, Photon, some forgetable Pantech phone or Photon Q get it next, seriously I'm vacationing off contract for 2 years. As soon as I leave, the update/ leak will appear.

I'll Stomach a 16GB (12GB est :rolleyes: ) Nexus 4.

I'll come back, as soon as hear the Nexus 4 support has been discontinued.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Kanes_Inferno:
If the GSII gets JB before us I'm gonna be sick.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] flex360:
Thank you haus

Gotta appreciate the mods
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] stevemoffler:
has this been confirmed yet?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ms79723:
Wait..let's say the picture is real...

What's the difference between "client" and "network initiated" (and I'm assuming this is the following word) update? How can we the client update without anything to update? So instead of getting excited today..shouldn't we be looking forward to the 27th? The 27th seems like when it would be rolling out by the carrier. We can only get excited by the client part if HTC decides to post the update somewhere. To see if this is true...someone should just go to a Sprint store and see if the display model has it or something.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thefsfempire:
Pretty sure that the client is us customers and network initiated is Sprint. In other words, we can request the update via our handset click "Check Now" under Updates. Network initiated means Sprint will push it to our phones starting on the 27th.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
Well it wasn't today but all rumors I'm hearing are saying soon. Gawd Dammit mother cracker freaking sh1t
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] eXplicit815:
This is correct.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] PhxkinMassacre:
So has anyone tried forcing it so we can rip the update and get some roms up in here?