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[Nexus 4 General] versd:
haha silly negri.

Just got my 'best skins ever' in the mail. got the full body protection. are you using any screen protectors or anything?

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the gs3 runs 32nm core architecture compared to the 28nm in the n4. processing power along with power consumption should be better

same sized battery

i was tempted by the htc one x+ with the build and the screen, but have heard too many issues regarding build quality, plus also i was never a fan of the tegra3 processor, again with the old core architecture, plus the dual core s4 (28nm) was very expensive here.

yes some other devices could be seen as better value, but dont forget this is a nexus device. my work mate who sits across from me has a gs3 and even with the large developer base, it would be weeks before incremental updates to various popular roms would filter through to his device (mine was a galaxy nexus).

the same will happen with the n4. it will always receive the first updates, and first batches of custom roms, and always have the largest developer base (and hence support base).

plus there is something to be said about the build of the phone compared to the gs3 plastic. plus inductive charging. and 2gb ram.

whether its worth it? if you were going to spend similar money, id pay extra for a nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hi BalinorNZ. I see versd has already pretty much covered all the bases in his reply. I know I've paid well over the Google play price, but in my opinion it's worth it. Here's what I think.

*Firstly, it's a Google phone so you don't have to worry about other manufacturers putting their "skins" on top of the pure android experience. This also means it will always see updates before anything else.

*In my opinion the browser on the nexus 4 more than competes with my old SGSIII. That's right, I've gone from the SGSIII to the nexus 4!

*Having used both phones, I much prefer the nexus 4. The difference in smoothness compared to the SGSIII is big...That's due to the full effects of "project butter" on the nexus. On my SGSIII I was running a custom ROM - CM10. There was a good developer base for the SGSIII and other exynos devices, but that group is shrinking every day as the unwillingness of Samsung to release their hwc sources makes developing for these devices extremely hard. Without a fully working hwc these devices will never be able to compete with a new nexus device - CM10.1 is working straight out of the box for the nexus 4. But if you prefer Samsung's touchwiz or htc's sense and the "closed up shop" attitude of both of those companies then they could be a good option for you.

*There are a lot of things I'm giving up moving from my SGSIII to the nexus 4. No 64GB external micro SD card, no removable battery and the 4.8" screen of the SGSIII was great. I have managed to upload around 4200 songs to Google music and I can just stream them if I want now. The battery life should be the same and the screen of the nexus 4 is pretty great too. The onscreen buttons disappear when watching movies through MX player, so that's a bonus.

*Something to keep in mind is that the SGSIV is rumored to be released pretty soon into the new year, so then the SGSIII will drop even further down the pecking order at Samsung, meaning even less support!

So that's a few reasons beind my move to the nexus 4 :)
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Just applied my beat skins ever skin! Only one imperfection lol
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I've got a SGP crystal screen protector on the front and I've just left the original plastic on the back until my Rearth "Ringke SLIM" cases arrive. I've also got a dual protection SGP front and back glass protector on the way as well. Not that happy with the screen protector though... It covers the sensors and they don't work properly when making calls... So I've had to make an ugly cut out in the corner over the sensors.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Yeah I didn't make the cut out and now the prox sensor is a bit dodgy!!
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
That's a good point. I think it's the 8GB model. Announcements are almost always the cheaper model.
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
exactly. Unless they could only get the 16GB model (which I doubt). Either way, LG or 2Degrees are going to be making some serious moolah :P
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Did either of you look at the Noel leeming and Bond and Bond links I've got in the OP when they were active? I did and I'm positive that the limited amount of info on there said that they were 16GB storage... Also the mobile kiwi website is taking about a $200 markup. According to your calculations it would be a $400 markup for the 8GB models. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
I did not have a chance to look at those websites. If those were only selling the 16Gb model then perhaps 2degrees will do the same. At this point they haven't given us much.

BTW I really appreciate your thread. It's the reason that i have one on the way! Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Just found this link... Shows 16GB...

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU12...nounce-nexus-4-only-available-on-2degrees.htm

A quick web search also confirms that it is indeed the 16GB version at 2degrees...

https://mobile.twitter.com/2degreesmobile/status/276643506934644736
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey mate. I didn't mean to sound rude before, so sorry if I did :) You're right though, usually they would only give the cheapest option, so it's odd they're not doing that here. :confused:

Good to know this has been of some help to you too! I hope you get your phone soon... I haven't put mine down since I got it yesterday... It's a nice piece of hardware with great software to match! Speaking of software, did you see the other day someone at Google released a carton depicting the evolution of android and it confirmed that the next in line is "keylime pie".... so I wonder how far away that is?...
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
ok got the knife out and cut off the corner of my screen protector covering the prox sensor and im back into action!! apparently best skins ever revised their design and are sending out replacement designs all out.

fingers crossed.

cant put my n4 down either! its great. its so much faster than the gnex.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hopefully my new screen and back protectors are of a modified design also.

Quick question... Does yours rattle if you shake it? Thought I'd give it a little test as it has been discussed a bit on these forums. To my surprise it does... Only when I shake it mind you. From what I can gather, it's not a problem at all, but it is interesting :)
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
no rattles, the only noise is because the power button has some play in it. so any noises come from there. if i have my finger lightly on the power button then there is no noise. even without the pressure, there is hardly any rattle. i dont think its anything to worry about!! :)

am enjoying this device - the speed difference between the gnex and this is amazing. nothing lags, nothing. and this is still stock. all stock
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
That's good you've got no rattle. Like I said... Mine only does it if I shake it.

Looks like my new screen protectors should have the cutout and I should be able to get my existing one replaced for free.

Fast phone alright! I reckon my SGSIII comes pretty close though... Just not as smooth...
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Anybody here with a Nexus 4 on 2degrees? I'm just wanting to know if you are getting the H+ icon next to your signal bars? Mine only shows H while my old SGSIII (running CM10 mind you) is showing H+. Also, when I run speedtest it only gives me a max download of 3.2Mbps and keeps peaking and then cutting right out (does that right through the test) I'm in Central Auckland by the way.

All my APN settings are correct (as far as I know) so any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
2 Degrees said somewhere (can't remember where sorry) that it will work on HSPA+ in the places that supports it, so you should be good, unless it has to have some special configuration done to it? Here's the link to the settings page if you haven't seen it already 2degreesmobile. co.nz\android-settings . Anyway I didn't have a chance to look at Noel Leeming's website before it was closed. If it is 16GB then that's a bit better, because doubling the price is a bit steep. It seems strange that they are seemingly only stocking 16GB versions. Maybe it's because of the lack of unlimited data plans in NZ hence the reason cloud storage isn't so popular here, so we need as much storage on phone as possible. Or maybe it's simply because of the lack of stock. I think I'll still wait (for gPlay) or just buy it off eBay and save a bit of cash so I can buy the Nexus 10 as well :DD
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Thanks mate, that's what I thought. It's just that I'm not seeing the "+" icon next to my "H". But I guess that just because it's not showing, doesn't mean that it's not working.

Your guess is as good as mine as to why they have only announced the 16GB version here. I think both your ideas as to why could very well be true.

If you can wait out the play store supply issues, then you'll get one of these for a steal compared to local prices! The nexus 10 looks pretty sharp alight! If I wanted a tablet I'd definitely be in for one of those.

Update

From what I can gather, vanilla android will only ever show the "H" symbol, not "H+" like some customs ROMS. It will still get H+ speeds if they are available though.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
The Warehouse now has stock and is selling the 16GB Nexus 4 for $699 as an introductory offer (with free shipping). You had better get in quick if you are keen as stock is moving pretty fast!

OP has been updated with the link also...

http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/red/redalert/product/9400006006074;pgid=Z3FqOstZnVpSR04ATShV6BKb0000eWIFas9_;sid=WG3CYiPLg2fCYnMPpHrdaDJn2K4dIOrf7rk=

Happy Christmas shopping guys! :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
haha bugger! about what I paid for mine~!!

wait no I paid less! haha phew.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Tell me about it!!!! haha :laugh:

It's as good a deal as we're gonna get down here for now!

Just rooted mine this morning. I'm debating going home tonight and flashing CM10.1 onto it - not sure if I should hold off a little longer so that they've added a few more features, or just go for it now?.....hmmmmm.....:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] Starlith:
You Sir, are the man
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
was a great find!! stock shows very very low now though !!

Probably the only time you'll see the N4 in stock in NZ this year
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Getting very low now!!!!!.....
[Nexus 4 General] lahan52:
sold out now...
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Will be interesting to see any out and about in nz. Not likely that there are that many privately imported n4's around these parts.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
just got a message from vodafone, they are expanding their h+ network all over auckland in several suburbs. since 2degrees piggybacks on the same network then they should also receive the same increase in coverage and signal strength/speed
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Sweet. Where I'm at in Auckland (city center) I get data directly from 2degrees towers and it's supposedly H+ already. However, when I run speedtest the results are not so good - I get a max download speed of 3.8Mbps. The connection seems to peak and then drop off totally during the test as well.

At work in Warkworth (where I'm piggybacking on Vodafone) I get a max download speed of 3.5Mbps - and that's only on 3G...I've attached some thumbnails below...

P.S. Why would I be using the Taupo server when I'm in Auckland City? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Thanks for the clarification mate. I'm getting the same speeds in Auckland as well! I think 2degrees needs to up their game on this as I've heard of people getting upwards of 7 and 8Mbps on Vodafone...
[Nexus 4 General] yjxzy:
Is that hot when the device in operation

Does anybody has tested the temperature when they play some big game or movie by nexus 4? Please advise that it hot or normal.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
gets pretty warm when gaming, but i only downloaded one game (real racing or something) just to see how it would run.

has gotten warm in the past while streaming music and browsing on 3g though. my old galaxy nexus used to get pretty warm too. dont think its a design fault, but there has been talk of cpu throttling due to heat when it comes to this LG chipset used in the n4 and lg optimus g
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey mate. I'll quickly run through what I've found with my device :

*Very smooth compared to my old SGSIII.

*Screen is great - brilliant whites and I can live with the IPS black levels.

*Camera is fast and does a decent job.

*Sound quality through the speaker is great compared to my old SGSIII. Great through headphones as well. Bluetooth seemed good also.

*Browser speed is OK - my wifi and data speeds are not the greatest so I would like to test it out with a better connection to really see how it performs.

*Does get warm under load...trialled with NFS:Most Wanted.

*I have the "Auto-Focus" rattle in my unit. Only happens when I shake the phone and put it down on a hard surface (doesn't bother me and causes no issues)

*I also have a very faint constant buzzing in my earpiece. This is constant and only noticeable in very quiet places (doesn't bother me and causes no issues)

*On occasion the launcher gets "stuck" when exiting an app. Pushing the back button returns to the homescreen.

*Touch sensitivity is a little less than my old SGSIII it seems. But once I'm used to it then it'll be fine.

Overall I'm extremely happy with it! It's a great phone and has lots of great features and plenty of development potential :D
[Nexus 4 General] yjxzy:
thanks guys

thanks guys,

So I 'm still waiting my order (4-5 weeks), if fortunately, my friend will pick a "LG OPTIMUS G" ( KOREA VERSION) for me in FEB, let's see which one is faster.
[Nexus 4 General] republicano:
I saw the wherehouse deal all sold out, 2 degrees were selling it for $299 with a 24 month 89$ plan,I called LG and was told i have to buy it on google play, they won't stock it will jan/feb next year,

few on trademe, at $800,

a hot phone on demand and prices like that its best to wait, I know its a di%k tease but your going to have to wait or in my position settle with the s2 for a while.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Can't find it on 2 degrees now?

Yeah most people who have the n4 in nz probably paid well over the USA retail price or are waiting for it to ship thru a service but that's the sacrifice to be on the cutting edge right?

For me I use my phone for work and everything else and have unlimited data thru work etc. Plus I'm a confessed nexus fan boy so I will take the hit.

Loving the sheer speed of this thing compared to my galaxy nexus. No waiting. Ever. Apart from network shiz of course.
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
Hey everyone just letting you know that the Nexus 4 is now officially for sale on the 2degrees website (see below) for $799 (16GB), and it appears to be in stock :DD LG have also confirmed that there will be no 8GB version for the time being due to supply issues. Noel Leeming doesn't have it up on their site yet so either they don;t have it or you'll have to go in store to buy it. Not sure if I'm going to buy it from here or Google Play or eBay. I'm an impatient person when it comes to technology so I'll probably end up buying it here haha

NOTE: You will have to remove the spaces between "2degreesmobile" and ".co", and ".co" and ".nz\shop . . .". sorry for this, I can't post links yet because I'm a new member.

2degreesmobile .co .nz\shop?p_p_id=konakart_portlet_WAR_konakart_portlet&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&p_p_col_id=column-1&p_p_col_count=1&_konakart_portlet_WAR_konakart_portlet__spage=%2FSelectProd.do&_konakart_portlet_WAR_konakart_portlet__sorig=%2FSelectCat.do%3FcatId%3D21&productId=290
[Nexus 4 General] jameswestnz:
The Warehouse have it back in stock too

The Warehouse have it back in stock at $699, too.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
the geekzone n4 owners thread is showing lots of people receiving their warehouse and 2degrees units, so theyre definitely here!
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
yaay! almost out of stock already though . . .
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
and here I was hoping that nexus devices would remain a unicorn here in nz (meaning the trouble i went through getting mine into the country would be worth something) haha.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
It was inevitable...we were special for only a few days haha. Mind you, with your 8GB version you are still very much a minority as we still can't buy that here...And in all honesty, I don't think there are that many people here in NZ who really know about this device. There has been a huge lack of media coverage about it! The NZ Herald hasn't mentioned a thing since it was released in November (that's probably because they are all Apple fan boys) and I also haven't seen mention of it on Stuff either. Maybe now that it's officially released here it might get some coverage, which is what it will need to push sales up. (with the limited stock numbers this might not be an issue anyway as they might only need a small volume of sales to deplete them)

Thanks also to you other guys for the links. I've updated the OP to include them.
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
Bumpers are IN STOCK (for now) in the US Play Store.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Cool. Unfortunately the buying off the US play store option doesn't work for me so if there is anyone here who is going to get a bumper from there, I would gladly share shipping costs with them if they would get a bumper for me as well. PM me if there is anyone who is keen and we can try and work something out...thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
It appears that the 2degrees link is broken (for me anyway), it comes up with a cart summary.
[Nexus 4 General] Maxermus:
I also have the rattle and it doesn't bother me as I don't shake my phone and only notice it when placing it down. This rattle has made me handle this phone more carefully so has a positive side effect for me lol

I don't have the buzzing in my earpiece but not sure if I am hearing it or not... is it obvious or something you really need to listen for? do you think the buzzing would have an affect on battery life? it must take some energy to make the buzz of course??

Was getting out of my car and dropped my naked N4 into the footwell of my car and scuffed the outer bezel of the phone. Slightly annoyed but its going to happen just trying to baby it for as long as I can. I need my CASE to arrive ASAP!
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I'll be in the states for work next year so I'll pick up some accessories then - hopefully the wireless chargers will be available!! would be there now, if it wasnt for the sub zero temperatures
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
That would be a huge "O for Awesome" mate! Keep us informed. A wireless charger and bumper would be great!

Sorry about that sam. Hopefully the OP link is correct now...
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
To be honest mate I can barely hear the buzzing myself. I only checked because of all the whinging going on in the General Section of the forum. It's hard to describe, not really a buzzing, more of an extremely faint scratchy/hissing sort of sound. Sitting here with normal daytime noises around I can't hear a thing. Doesn't bother me during calls so it's not a problem.

I hear what you're saying about being careful with the phone. I keep thinking that if I place it on a hard surface to abruptly that I might break it. Of course that's nonsense and over time I'm sure I'll get a bit less anal about it. I've already got cases for it and they are great, but when I'm at home it always goes naked as it looks and feels so much better that way. I was the same when I first got my SGSIII. I had it in a case night and day, but eventually I got sick of that so it spent the last few months with me without a case on at all. I can happily say that in that time I had no drops and no scratches. So by the time my wife got it, it was still in tip top condition.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
will be taking the nexus 4 on my backpacking tour around south america in a few weeks. am fully insured so decided to make the most of it. only thing I'm worried about is theft, but that is covered by my insurance, and I will just pick another one up next year in the states if that ends up happening. fingers crossed though.

it will be a real test of the build quality right? will be using bestskinsever full body protection plus a nice rubbery case.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Great stuff? Where are you going to over there? We lived in La Paz for 5 months while traveling around the place - we managed to get to Peru, Chile, Argentina and Brazil. So much to see and do over there, you'll have a blast!!!! I'd definitely be wary of "losing" your phone. We never had any problems but we were always prepared for the worst. A good tip would be to take a memory stick and backup your photos onto it. I wore one around my neck the whole time we were there. It just gave an added level of protection with our photo's. We also had a fake wallet with an old cancelled credit card that we could hand over if we needed to. Never had to, but it was just in case. If you want any tips, just let me know - it was 4 years ago when we were there, so things have probably changed a bit, but anything I can help with I'd be happy to. :)
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
SOLD OUT at the Warehouse again guys! Hope you all got in early because they were the cheapest you'll see around these parts for some time. :)
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
unless you're staff ;) haha oh yes and I'd like to confirm that the OS is pure Android. No modification has been made by 2degrees (I got a reply from the LG NZ twitter folks). I thought I'd mention it because I saw a few people saying that it was modified.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Great. Nexus devices are usually always vanilla android. I think that the reason there is only one mobile carrier selling it in the US is because the others wanted to have some version of their own firmware/bloatware on the device (and also lock it to their networks), but Google wouldn't allow it. I think that happened before in the US with the Galaxy Nexus and the carriers Verizon and Sprint. They held up the delivery of Jellybean to their customers Nexus phones and it really annoyed Google, so this time round they aren't taking any chances. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I just used trickster mod to pull the max cpu freq down to 1026mhz.

no noticing any slow down in the UI - I think the s4pro is a bit overkill for just running 4.2 and stock google apps.

we'll see how much the battery is affected?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wesley.neary:
Hi guys,

I rooted my Note 10.1 using this method, i should probably state i used this method over the CWM method as i do not want to trip the counter and void warranty on a new tablet.

http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-10-1-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-10-1/

Unfortunately the firmwares included here are not for the UK model GT-N8010. I have tried searching for one that has been done already but cant find one so i need to inject the root into the stock firmware i have downloaded from sammobile.

Unfortunately the knowledge of how to do this is outside my skill set could anyone point me in the direction of a guide or tell me how to do the root injection.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simon.heth:
ROM : Revolution HD 4.0

Location : Thailand

Operator : True Move

I got this N7100 from local market, not official dealer. Actually the coverage is quite good, almost full bar, but the R (the roaming symbol) shows in the "status icons" quite often, as the result my data service interrupt.

Need solution and advice , please.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] Morganmachine91:
Hey guys quick question! I'm running CM10 on my sgsb, I really miss the old stock contacts manager with touchwiz.. Has anyone made it available for cm? I notice this question was asked before a while ago, but without much of a response. Thanks!