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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Akhilcoonoor:
Thank You .

Just flashed the ROM .. Had been on PA before, but the battery life wasnt that great .. Gonna test this one ,.. hope its as good or better than TouchWiz .:cowboy:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] MU24R:
let me know if its better than pa

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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Akhilcoonoor:
So far, so good .,,

:cyclops:

I think our guys here have implemented everything cool from PA onto this already + MORE .

Battery is okay so far ... I've had like 20 % discharge in 1 hr 40 mins with Screen on in auto and WIFI.

Apps were being downloaded...

You should definitely try it .. worth the time for sure :cool:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] madsponge26:
this is better than PA.. ofcourse some of the parts of this rom comes from pa,cm,carbon,slim and others. so its better than the others.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Kellicros:
I don't think it is nice to compare roms, they are good on their own depend on what you need.

You may use THIS to check what each rom has to offer, but i don't think the chart is complete or very updated.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
That won't be any problem if you Devs start communicate what you do and what we users have to to when flashing.

I flashed every effing nightly since 4.3 dirty and everything worked flawless. So guess what, I thought I can go on like this.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE your Rom and give biggest respect to your hard work.

But the lack of communication is pi..ing me off. It was the same as out of nothing a custom kernel doesn't work anymore.

Think I'm an unthankful user or what ever, but that's what I think.

I am Weasl

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and you've been PAC'd by a Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] PrettyJAE.swag:
Network speed indicator gives System UI FC everytime since 10/20 nightly..

---------- Post added at 01:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:14 AM ----------

I want to nandroid but I am out of storage and don't have computer or any kind of external storage. :( hahaha
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
[MENTION=2645674]abhisahara[/MENTION] can you please update your "update instructions" in the O.P.? They are not up to date anymore, thanks.

Edit: Sorry, just ignore this please. I was misinformed...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Yes_:
Yeah, tried that too with no success. Anyway I'll try again on the weekend and report back. :-\
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
Bwahaha u make me laugh thanks... Really wish I had this mentality of being entitled to know everything...

XDA Moderator
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] corb06:
I keep getting camera error after taking a pic and trying to take another after exiting the app. Any ideas?

Also phone gets hot and battery drains in 4 hours.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] bkjolly:
It amazes me the sense of entitlement some people have. The lack of communication is pissing you off? We don't get paid for this, You aren't paying for a service with tech support. We donate our spare time to something you use for free. You don't sound like an ungreatful user you are one. Opps you had a small issue in something that has a flash at your own risk disclaimer. As for the custom kernel thing. We build our kernel inline take that issue up with the Kernel Dev because that isn't a ROM issue in any way.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] owain94:
Any way you could provide me a logcat?

because it's working fine here
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
I´m happy with making you laugh...great for you :D

Other devs don´t get paid, too.

But they´re able to write:"People, something changed, you can´t use a custom kernel because of this.", or "People, something changed. With the nightly from 20/10 you gotta do a clean install, no dirty flash this time!"...that´s everything I´d like...to much, ok, my fault :D

The only entitlement I have is to know if there is a change (what change don´t matters that much) in a nightly so I have to flash different. And THAT is to much?! And surely it´s rom related if the kernel doesn´t work anymore. The kernel dev didn´t change anything. So, if it doesn´t work anymore it´s on rom side, ´cause YOU changed something...

Now you two are making me laugh pretty much!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] DerTeufel1980:
Just wanted to let you know, that I am going to add framework-2.jar to my bootclass path with the next update, and then remove framework-pac.jar in the future.

As there seem to be more roms coming with additional framework, this is the only logical solution.

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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] evanovici:
Forgot to add, clear them both and then reboot
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
So your kernel will not be compatible in the future with PAC Roms? Do I understand this right?

Thanks ;)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] DerTeufel1980:
They just need to change framework-pac.jar to framework-2.jar

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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] magnamentis:
probably not wise but ..... :)

hi,

most probably it's not a wise move to make comments about an ongoing dispute

between demanding members with a point to consider, and devs who have a good

point as well to make clear that there are no rights to demand for anything.

so, albeit i'm aware that it's not wise at all, i still want to take the opportunity to

post my opinion, perhaps something can be achieved after all.

a) as per to the demanding tone:

... yes there is no right for anybody to demand anything so it's about the tone

... which can be difficult for non-english speakars to always get it right and generally

... it would be a good idea, not to post, while exited and/or disappointed with something.

... further this is the pac-thread and all the problems with kernels should not be posted here

... in such high numbers and over and over again. there is nothing to complain. it's up to the

... kernel devs to adapt the kernels to the roms if they like, and the users have to live with what they get.

b) as to the information policy:

... even though that there is nothin to demand, this guy (gewürzwiesl) had at least a bit of a point

... when he thinks, that major changes that will cause boot-problems and/or other major

... trouble when not following a certain procedure, which can unnecessarily make the big

... work of a complete format/install from scratch necessary, it would be NICE, not meant

... as a demand but as a consideration :) to post a little hint as to what to expect and a brief

... recommendation as to how to proceed.

this would mean that at least those who are interested and who are following the threads carefully,

have a chance to avoid any hassle by using a minute to wipe and/or format a bit better than usual.

a very simple way to do that and an example would be the following post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46699682&postcount=3009"

which was probably inspired by the disput above.

this is a very nice way to warn people to be careful and make backups and wipe/format at best.

i hope that this will not lead to any further dispute, the intention is/was to moderate

and at the same time perhaps improve the overall experience for everyone :)

should anyone think that this post is not correct or disturbing, please write me a PM so to avoid

public disputs which are not really pleasant to follow by those not involved.

regards
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] tdm:
Another logical solution is to update only the kernel when you install your kernel.

I have a utility that will replace only the kernel in a boot image and leave the ramdisk alone. I will gladly share if you want it.

You can also check out AnyKernel by Koush.

NB: I don't normally follow this thread, I was linked here. Please PM me if you are interested.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] DerTeufel1980:
I am answering here, to let others see this.

Your method does not work for me, because of dualboot capable initramfs. I always need to flash mine.

My initramfs are built into the zImage, you can't replace it, without compiling the kernel.

Anyway, it's a great idea, and I am using it for my nexus s kernel

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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
Maybe I was a bit rough. But my only point was that a bit information-flow would be nice!!

What happens than is that a mod thinks it´s nice to laugh at my demand and a dev bashes me ´cause of wanting a bit info!

Doesn´t matter anyway. Changed rom and everybody´s happy and no one has to fullfill my extreme wishes...cheers...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
While you might think I'm just a moderator I am also a user and a pac admin/dev and have full knowledge of everything pac related. I was not laughing at you as a moderator. I was laughing at you as a pac dev. Also we have all types of ways of communication. We have g+(where we've had many discussions of this), we have a Facebook group, pac forums, these threads, and now a xda pac area. We communicate Over and over again. The problem is that you (I say you as in "the user") wants to be spoon-fed everything instead of investigating or reading in other areas. You are warned in the op of the risks. Told to read, read, read. Given links for all our social media, link's to changelog, gerrit(to see newest code added, github... Etc.) but want us to educate you on every single step we take. Would you rather we concentrate on development or holding your hand through every step. Now while most users would prefer we concentrate on making this project as stable as possible... If u need a hand holding I will help you walk across the street... Feel free to hit me up anytime. (rolls eyes)

XDA Moderator
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
Uhhh... what sarcasm... I love that.

As I said: went back to PA.

So first, I don't bother you anymore with my annoying questions, and second I wish a happy life as an almighty dev and XDA-Mod, have fun.

I dared to say a critic word, sorry master, won't do that ever again...

And now you can laugh at me as what ever you want, even as roger rabbit, I just don't give a... I think you know...

I am Weasl

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and you've been PAC'd by a Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Papa Smurf151:
Yup you will get alot better communication from PA devs... Good luck with that. Next time trying not bring so rude when you speak and the reaction you receive might just be a little different.

XDA Moderator
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
I already did say sorry for being not that polite!

Here again: SORRY!! (no sarcasm)

It was just that I got angry because of nothing working as it should after my dirty flash. The flash method that worked eversince...THIS was the only reason!

And also sorry that I was not digging thru all your social media. The first station my train stops is always at XDA. And I didn´t find the info I needed in here!

But the reaction from both of you gave me the feeling:"Oh, an unsatisfied customer. But hey, who the ef cares ´bout!" That was my impression. The last time i got that was as I used JellyBam...

So you see, YOUR words were not the best pic either...or do you think it´s funny to laugh at someone who´s just wanting to know why the ef his phone isn´t working the way it was before?!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Akhilcoonoor:
Camera and Auto Brightness

:crying: Will the devs be able to fix the flickering in Camera and the stutter during auto brightness change in the next update ??

I am coming from Stock 4.3 leak and sort of had 0 problems there , then of course Pac ROM is the most customizable I've ever used .. So the sacrifices seem to be worth it .
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
updates

Now all sarcasm and hostility aside, I come in peace. Do I understand correctly that every new release is from now on, to be flashed as a "new ROM" not as an "update"?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
Nope. Just the 20/10. After this dirty flash is back :D As I understood...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
Alright, no big deal then :)

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] ssewk2x:
The "correct" answer is "a clean install after a full factory reset is always recommended." Basically, if you haven't done that, the devs don't want to hear about your problems.

With that said, though, there are obviously times and situations where you can get away with a "dirty flash" (meaning no factory reset, you just wipe cache and dalvik and sit through one longer boot-up). However, the devs don't have the time to track all those down and explain them because they will be different for everyone - the apps you install and use, for example, can have an influence on that.

So, let me give you my recommendation:

1. try a dirty flash first. If you get away with it, then great! You're all set. Although, before you try this, you should now how to recover from a boot-loop or whatever other mayhem might happen.

2. if you have a bunch of crazy issues you never had before, make a backup and try doing a factory reset. If stuff starts working after that, great!

If you end up with number 2, treat it like you bought a new phone and set it up again. Yeah, it's a pain. Yeah it takes time. It's worth it, right?

Just understand that when you say "i dirty-flashed and now I have problems," the first response is ALWAYS going to be "do a clean flash." ALWAYS. So much so that you should probably just try a clean flash without asking.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] bkjolly:
It's always been encouraged since the Droid 1 to do a full wipe before flashing anything. Dirty Flashing always comes with risks as we all know. That's why the OP says to wipe in all of our threads. I dirty flash myself sometimes but I know that if there is an issue it's my fault for not wiping not someone else's. It's all flash at your own risk these builds are produced by a build-bot and released as nightly's. The nightly builds usually aren't the builds we're running. I mean people want nightly builds which by nature aren't stable then they complain if they have an issue.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] TheWeasl:
What actually is written in the OP is:

First time install: Factory Reset

Update: flash and wipe data/dalvik aka. dirty

Or do I get the meaning of "dirty flash" wrong?

And if, in fact, a factory reset is recommended no matter if update or coming from another rom, the OP should be changed.

I am Weasl

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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] magnamentis:
great answer indeed, just .... :)

hi,

this a the right answer and very detailed and patient, just that i and others have tried to

stop the dirty flashers and the tweakers from complaining before clean flashing and

going with built-in kernels first many many times and to no big avail.

so, considering your answer and the style of it, i'm quite sure that you are aware of how

people are and will mostly remain :) , no matter how helpful some are trying to be :)

i remember one guy thousand of years ago who said: and they just don't know what

they are doing :) was true then and will be true probably for a long time still :)

thanks however for the top input
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
Thanks guys for answering, I just got a bit confused by this post when I read that the one change that broke dirty flashing had been implemented in the latest build and that it could not be changed anymore... I thought that this "change" would be present in all the future builds, that's all. I guess I misunderstood. Thanks again for devoted developers work :)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] bkjolly:
No you're good the change is there now and permanent.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] abhisahara:
For those in specifics i have added the line in OP also. But m still sure there will be complains regarding the same even after added in OP.

There is Disclaimer for a reason. And since you are flashing nightlies hence you should be well ready of the bugs breakouts or anything. If you are not ready for that then kindly wait for the RC/milestone release. You all want all the bleeding edges of development so be prepared by always taking backups before flashing a new update rom. You lost something because you have to do a data wipe as the rom haven't booted after a dirty flash is not to be complained. You take precautions yourself or want the devs to everytime should you a red light.

I know this may sound harsh to many of you but sit and think. Its us users that have to be prepared for eveything that happens to our phones and no one you can blame or complain. And since its a kernel issue and devs uses the inline kernel which comes with the rom hence no one can blame them for something not working on other custom kernels.

Hoping that all will settle down on this topic! Any other qualms or personal stuff kindly shoot a PM. Try keeping the thread clean.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
How do I download 2013 - 10 - 22?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] DerTeufel1980:
I have added framework-2.jar to my bootclass path now.

Most probably I'll keep framework-pac.jar for the next two weeks, until I remove it.

Please consider renaming your framework

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[Galaxy Note II Android Development] PrettyJAE.swag:
Sorry. My mistake again. I clean flash and it okay now..
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
not how, but when...

well, when it's available I guess :silly:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] peppi.nl:
If the 'pac_n7100-nightly-[Date}.log.html' ends with:

build n7100: end at 23:53:10: rc=2

build n7100: failed

That means that the compiling of the rom failed that night and that there is not going to be one available, until this building-process succeeds.

Probably next day or more days in this case.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
oh, ok, Thanks for the explanation, so thats meanas 24/10/2013 also wont have the update :D

im starting to like this Rom so much :D

btw, anyone got any suggestion(apps) for this rom that can replace the samsung rom apps that uses S-Pen?

so far i only got Note Buddy and CM S Pen Add-on(ROOT)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] mamameerguevo:
Battery woes

Hey Guys I love this rom but the battery was just killing me!!!! I was using RC1 4.2.2 and it was killing me when I would use 20% in 1 hour of use. I decided to go and flash MIUI. I like MIUI just because the battery lasts at least 2X more than this. Is this ROM with the new 4.3 better?? I mean, will the battery last longer at least?? I hate MIUI and SAMSUNG can never get my accesibility apps to work correctly. Any feedback?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
Get this, it's awesome to replace note app from samsung.

Flash it in your recovery and set it as main app in notebuddy to open automatically when you take out the spen. :highfive:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
nice app, thanks for the share :D

btw, do you know how to enable the s-pen pointer? small circle when we hover the S-Pen on the screen?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Kellicros:
You can find it at: Settings - Language & input - Show icon when using stylus

I have no idea how to replace the arrow pointer with a circle though, and to replace my note app, i use Papyrus.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
Thanks for pointing that out :D

i think i know how to change that arrow pointer with a circle,

just need to go to \system\framework\framework-res.apk\res\drawable-xhdpi\pointer_arrow.png

need to replace the pointer_arrow.png

or maybe someone can come out with flash-able zip file? :D
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] ssewk2x:
I'm curious what you're using that lets you explore within an APK file, and whether or not that tool will also let you change and update the contents on the fly like that...because that would be pretty fracking cool.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Kellicros:
AFAIK, the apk files are actually .zip archives, you can explorer them with any zip explorer and replace their contents. Still a hassle though since I'm updating my rom on nightly basis.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] ssewk2x:
Yeah, I just fiddled a little and discovered 7zip is good for this sort of thing. Cool!

Also, I agree it would be nice if you could just over-ride what's in framework-res.apk by dropping a replacement image into the right place within the filesystem and not have to edit the APK at all.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] SunShiner:
Might not welcomed by the Devs, but some just using another kernel, for example Thor or Devil. These provide a better battery performance and you also can edit important things with apps like Trickster, which are not provided by the CM kernel. Be aware that the Dev might giving you after that no help with problems cause you aren't using recommend settings. But in my opinion, it just makes s product better developing outside the box and it also don't mean that the CM kernel or PAC aren't that good. If we weren't fans, we wouldn't use it. :)
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
just sharing some tweak,

for people that want to change their black cursor to similar to note 2 hovering just need to flash this :D

here some screen shot :D

Before >>> After
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] tomass61:
Hello. I have tried already all ad blocking programs, but neither one is working. What i have to do?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
Hey, have you tried Adaway?

I have Adaway working on mine:
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] tomass61:
Yes i jabe tried it, but does not work for me...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] Kellicros:
I browse through the zip and it actually replace more than just the hover picture, will it cause problem in later updates when they are changes in framework-res.apk?

Something is wrong with your phone, adaway works great here. What is the actual issue you're facing though?
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] cyber-junkie:
Thanks for the flashable update.zip :good:

But@all: Be careful when flashing this file on future nightly builds (you should always do a nandroid before flashing!) -

if a future-build come with a different framework replacing it could crash the rom (so you have to restore to a nandroid or reflash the rom) !
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] evanovici:
Q

Why are all the nightly builds failing? my flashing addiction is kicking in hard
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] PrettyJAE.swag:
I feel you bro.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] ssewk2x:
I'm trying to accomplish something similar using a vendor overlay. It's supposed to only override the resources (images and stuff) you want changed while leaving the rest of framework-res.apk intact. I'm making some progress, but also having some pretty bad issues. My overlay seems to want to either replace the entire file or nothing at all - can't seem to find the happy middle ground yet.

Ill keep at it though. If nothing else, I'll learn something.
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] OldBoy.Gr:
Just flashed this but can't find the appafter reboot. any tips plz?

Life is what happens while we... make plans!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] retrorom:
It will be called "Notebook" in your apps :D
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] mamameerguevo:
Is there a mirror for this because I am in China and I cannot download the nighties. Thanks!!
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
I flash that too, but I don't see any app called "Notebook" on my fon, so I modified the installation script, than only I got it...
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
if you still cant find it, try flash it with this:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/fn0mjn54ntjwa5n/NoteBook.zip
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] StormRoBoT:
just sharing some tweak on message app

below is the screen shot of after flash
[Galaxy Note II Android Development] OldBoy.Gr:
That seems to be the case for me so thank you for this one.

Life is what happens while we... make plans!