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[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
I need to update - I'm in Auckland now.

You are probably right about the addresses. I was having issues, so I changed it all, and it worked.

Weirdly a large ammount (but slightly less than what I calculate the phones would be) has been taken off my creidt card, but it doesnt show as a transaction yet, just off the balance.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
That's normal mate. Google will authorise your credit card (check that the funds are there and that it is valid) then they will charge it fully when it ships, or just before. I've had the same thing from Google wallet with my purchase through Negri electronics. I had the amount showing on my credit card, but it wasn't charged. Then the other day it dropped off altogether! At first I was worried until I was told that the payment has been authorised, so that when the phone ships, that's when they will charge me. So you can relax mate :D
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey mate. You will pay the duty/gst when the phone gets to customs in NZ. I think someone will contact you to tell you whatever is owing and that they won't release it to your courier until you pay it.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
If we were all patient and could bare waiting for a couple of months until all the supply issues are sorted and demand drops, then the price would probably be quite reasonable...:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Yeah, it's pretty expensive mate!...But its not too bad if you think of what other top end phones go for on release.

I've only had my SGSIII since July - I love it, don't get me wrong, but the lack of support from Samsung for custom ROM Devs has pretty much turned what could be a great phone into a somewhat good one. At least with the Nexus 4 CM10.1 is pretty much ready to go right out of the box! Plus, my wife's phone is my old old LG O2X so it's about time she had a working phone again :laugh:

LG produce quality hardware, it's just their software and support of that software which sucks. With the Nexus we get the best of both worlds - LG's quality and fast, regular software support from Google - so win win all around!
[Nexus 4 General] philipwll:
management is and single oaanote

Nexus 4 ----- SECURED!!!!!!! Got mine throught he play store... had to create a new gmail for that... and set the default billing address to the youshop one. I guess changing the default address in my original google wallet works as well (mentioned above)

WOOHOO!!!! so damn excited now!!!! can't wait for it!!! fingers crossed though!!!!

><!!!!:)
[Nexus 4 General] DLFB:
Just curious for my folks there down under: how bad are your duties/taxes for imported goods?

I'm Canadian and electronics are pretty much 0% duties + GST (varies by province) but clothing's right around 16-18% most of the time + GST. We get an allowance of $20 for parcels but anything above that is subjected to duties/taxes. I know the USA has an allowance of $200/USD/parcel.

I know it's pretty high in the EU zone too.
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
We get charged 15% for all imported goods but if the value of the package is under $400 it is usually ignored. Same if it is marked as being a gift

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Whoa just got an email from Mobicity saying my order is pending fulfillment A, which apparently means my order is at the warehouse ready to be packed ( in hong kong i think). Doesn't sound right to me considering the US and UK guys are looking at two week wait times. Maybe i'm getting a returned phone or something. Time will tell
[Nexus 4 General] wilfred888:
My Nexus 4 arrived today. Boy am I excited.
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Congrats dude, and at the play store price, so jealous right now.
[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
So what, 8 days from you shop to NZ. That's ok.

Did you get stung GST?
[Nexus 4 General] wilfred888:
Yeah, 8 days is quite fast! Luckily I didn't get charged for GST, however just so you know, YouShop does ask for the value.. ;)

I came from an HD2 as well, so I'm having a blast at the speed increase and stability of the Nexus 4 :D
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
That's great to hear mate!!! Top job!
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Good to hear! Hope you got one coming in now... quite possibly you do, as mobicity might have had them on backorder from the first release and they're only just getting them now. Let us know how you go anyway mate :)
[Nexus 4 General] Maxermus:
Just finished unboxed my Nexus 4 16GB. I was shaking the whole time.... so far happy and once I have my case and screen protector arrive I can peel this factory stuff off and relax about all the fragile post I have been reading.

Jason

Mount Maunganui NZ
[Nexus 4 General] yjxzy:
Congrats dude

Congrats dude, Could you please tell us the detail about the free gst, did you get charged duty? what you means "YouShop does ask for the value", they will design if the stock should be charged gst or duty?
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Cool!!!! You'll have to put up some pictures for us to all be extremely envious over :laugh:

What sort of case and screen protector did you get? I've already got this screen protector waiting here anxiously...

http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/google/nexus-4/google-nexus-4-screen-protector-steinheil.html

And I just ordered this screen protector as it has protection for the front and back glass...

http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/google/nexus-4/google-nexus-4-screen-protector-steinheil-dual.html

And I've ordered a black and white one of these cases:

http://www.amazon.com/SF-Matte-Blac...&qid=1354228091&sr=8-5&keywords=Rearth+Ringke
[Nexus 4 General] yjxzy:
thanks a lot

Yes, I got your message, thank you so much, I understand how to do it;)
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
The availability date on Negri Electronics has now slipped to 3-6 weeks. :crying: They apparently are not putting any precise date on there now because of the negative feedback they were getting from customers (which was probably fair enough as the date has slipped twice already)

I'm seriously thinking of trying my luck with someone else, as I want to get this before Christmas! :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Maxermus:
Ordered a case off eBay and now the wait for that begins. Went and brought a few universal screen protectors but I failed it cutting those but on the 4th attempt I at least have something on the back that will protect for now... I just wont show anyone lol

Carrying around in an old Oakley sunglass bag I have for now until the case arrives so I feel better doing that.

Here are some pics or it bathing in some Bay of Plenty sunshine :good:
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Looking great there Jason!

Does anybody know if the prices at value basket.co.nz include gst/duty? Also has anybody here bought anything from there? There are some pretty bad reviews floating around regarding that online shop, but I'm just keen to get my hands on one of these bad boys before Christmas. They claim to have 4 in stock...:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] risediol:
Regarding negri electronics from what I understand anyone who preorders now will get it in 3-6 weeks.I have preordered it since 20 November and they told me the expected ship date is 7th of December.So Im keeping my hopes up
[Nexus 4 General] Flozzo:
So what are my chances with buying from the US play store? I'd have to use my dads CC (don't have my own) and chances are I can't change the address on the card to the YouPost address. Some say Google is declining orders from cards with a different address to the Wallet address.

Really tempted to get one, but the hassle of dealing with this, selling my One X on Trademe and potentially not being able to return the device for warranty scare me.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Did you get that information from Negri Electronics recently (ie after the availability date slipped to 3-6 weeks)? It would be great if that were the case!

Sounds like your chances are fairly low, but never say never. If you are having to use your Dad's card, that could be your first issue. I would imagine you would have to set up an entirely new Google wallet account (under your Dad's name), then go from there. The address issue is interesting - some say it has worked by only updating their Google wallet address, while others have had to change the billing address with their bank as well. I'm not sure about the warranty side of things, but I would think that you could still deal directly with Google if you have issues with your phone.

My advice would be to give it a go if you are keen. You're not going to get arrested for trying your luck. There's a 7-8 week wait for the shipping of the Playstore phones right now, so that gives you plenty of time to change your mind in the meantime. Google won't charge the card until the device has shipped/ready to be shipped or sometimes not until after you have actually received the device. I hope this has helped :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
You could hit Negri up on Twitter .. they respond even on Sundays

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contacted Negri

They said for early pre orders they will have stock in 1-2 weeks.

With how many times they have slipped the orders etc, I don't trust them anymore.

I'm about to push the button on an ebay nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I'm gonna give Negri until early next week...then I'll try other options. So far the valuebasket.co.nz option is off the table. Their 24hr Mon-Fri call center gives an automated we're closed at 10:46am on a Monday morning message. So that certainly doesn't give me too much faith in them...
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
pulled the trigger on an ebay nexus. cost $60 more than my preorder i had with Negri, but the correspondence Ive had with Negri was very contradictory. Their units will probably ship and everything, but their stalling tactics are unacceptable.

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I spoke to them a few days before the pre orders went up and they said they'd have people waiting to order off the store

then they said they managed to secure 50 units for their 'first shipment' and that they had also managed to acquire some units off the play store

then i asked them why if they managed to get units from the store, why they had not shipped any - given that the play store orders have processed a lot of them - no response on that one

Then they said today that they would have some units arriving next week and the week after (which contradicts their '50 units first shipment') thing

So even though it may ship next week for an ok price, their customer service, although present, needs to get their info straight, and i am sick of being lied to and stalled
[Nexus 4 General] Flozzo:
Yeah I guess you're right. Setting up a new Wallet account wouldn't be a big problem, and using the card wouldn't be either. The biggest problem would be Google potentially rejecting it.Then again if they don't charge me before they ship it, I have nothing to lose. And if I get a bit lucky I might actually be able to get a Nexus 4 for about the same price I could sell my HOX for. Thanks for the input! Although this might get us some calls from the CC company:

Edit: heck for $570 I don't have much to lose. One X's going for 500-600 now means I'll be sweet. Might pull the trigger today and just do it :)
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
billing address is to check for fraud I think .. when I have been in the states, i've ordered things from the playstore by putting my apartment/hotel address as billing address.
[Nexus 4 General] Flozzo:
Yeah, but technically (yes I know, it's just technically, no one cares :P) it's probably illegal to provide an incorrect billing address in some way or another. Parents aren't really convinced with the gamble of buying off the Play Store, time to find someone in my area willing to import one for me too or something.
[Nexus 4 General] time2303:
If they were fraudulent, they'd get shutdown. Not like it's violating any NZ laws that I know of and I don't think they would extradite over using a mail forwarder.

Tried to purchase a Nexus 4 + Bumper off the Play store, said that they're out of stock.
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Got an update from mobicity. They are awaiting news from their supplier still, so indefinite wait for me. wouldnt be surprised if its the same supplier to Negri. Really hope LG can ramp up production i would really like the phone before xmas.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Just an update as to where in at. I canceled my order with Negri as I'm just too damn impatient...so i followed versd's lead and purchased off eBay.

They are a little more expensive (and you will also get screwed by PayPal's horrible exchange rate) but there are plenty to pick from and they will post immediately if you get a good trader. Make sure if you go this way that you find a trader with good feedback (ours has %100), that they actually have the device in hand and that it's still all sealed,shiny and brand new. I've never used eBay before, but its just like trademe, only bigger. I also set up a PayPal account as some of the traders will only ship to a PayPal certified address... it was pretty straight forward and didn't cost anything. There are links to do that in eBay.

I Ordered mine on the 3rd from Missouri and its expected delivery to me in Auckland is the 6th...he had already notified FedEx on Sunday the 2nd for a pickup on Monday the 3rd. (Sale was completed on my Monday arvo / his Sunday evening.

This option can also potentially allow you to specify with the trader the value of the package...

I've been saving for this for over 3 months, so the extra costs involved weren't too much of a problem for me. And now that the Negri electronics prices have gone up, this option does become a viable one...there might be a bit more risk involved here, but if you do your homework then you should be right....
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I hope you get some good news soon mate!

I reckon all these online shops "suppliers" are just people who bought them off the playstore in the first or second wave of releases. Maybe Google clamped down on the multiple orders and it stung these guys? Would be interesting to find out anyway..
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
estimated delivery date from my tracking information is 6 Dec

yay!
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
FedEx says picked up!
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Mine too...looks like our phones might be travel buddies on their way here...
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
I just put in an order for a 16GB through the US Play Store via VPN. Shipping to NZ via YouShop. I changed my billing address on my Canadian Visa to the YouShop address in the US. Yikes, not something i like doing. Hope they accept it when it's back in stock. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Yeah i know, i have a Canadian Visa so why didn't i just send it to a Canadian address? The answer is that the Canadian store doesn't allow pre-orders of the 16GB or bumper in case you were wondering.

Good luck everyone!
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
pretty sure the billing address is just to track for potential fraud cases (stolen credit cards etc) i would imagine that your bank would call you about it before anything serious happened ... ? just assuming here. i'm sure google search will find you an explanation of the importance and use of a billing address with online purchases.
[Nexus 4 General] zammbi:
Blah my Google wallet account was locked because I didn't have the billing/shipping address to my wallet address. I had to give photo id and proof where I live.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Not sure what your point is here? Care to elaborate? I had a similar issue when I was testing out the method of using my YouShop address as my Google Wallet billing address. I was actually able to rent a movie on google play, but I kept getting an error when I tried to purchase music.(this was all with the help of a VPN) When I changed back to my actual billing address I couldn't complete any purchases on the NZ playstore. Google wallet support just told me to update my billing address details (which I had already done) then wait 24hrs and it would come right...and it did.

As I've stated many times before...that method may or may not work for you :)
[Nexus 4 General] zammbi:
No point just sharing my pain.

I read this thread after I ordered :)

I need to wait a number of days or I could create another account...
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Well we all feel your pain here mate! It's pretty crappy we get left out in the cold in NZ... mind you, most people here don't even know about these phones :eek:

I hope your account comes on line again shortly
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Its here!

Noticed the increase in processing power when it restored all my apps at the same time off wifi. my old nexus would lag when 'installing' this breezed through
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Awesome!! Would have had mine, if not for lazy courier drivers. Didn't even get a phone call or anything, otherwise I could have had my building manager get it! Hopefully they try again, otherwise I'll try and pick it up at the airport after work...I really want it today damn it! :D
[Nexus 4 General] Ftwisawesome:
Hey did you pay customs>
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I thought I was going to...but it went straight through without any problems :) - My building manager has just signed for it now! From the states to NZ in 3 and a half days! :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
lucky you got the fedex shipping!! I had to pay extra! awesome to hear about the no customs :)

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about to root!
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Yep - real lucky on both accounts! I feel pretty stink though as you had to pay extra :o, - I thought the customs charges would make up for it. I haven't seen it yet, but I'll let you know what our eBay guy valued it at...maybe he was a bit smarter than me haha. Or could it be that Customs Officers are actually reasonable human beings after all :)

You gonna run stock JB after you root or install a custom rom? I'm debating weather to install CM10.1. I think I'll enjoy it stock for a few days at least.

Is it a beast? bring on 5pm so I can head home and get my Nexus 4 on!

On another note, has anybody found any other buying options in New Zealand. Looks like the people who got in early and ordered off Noel Leeming or Bond and Bond have been refunded the purchase price as the stores are now claiming they don't have any stock...:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
rooted, busybox, custom recovery, unlocked

running stock for now, will wait a while before flashing a rom, let others beta test :)
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Been tootooing with mine for a couple of hours now. I'm Pretty impressed with it so far!!! I'll hold off rooting it for now, but that won't last long.

Just handed over my SGSIII to my wife. She's acting all indifferent, but deep down I know she is happy :laugh:

It seems our Mr eBay was wise on the customs side of things ;) ....not my doing at all! So I was doubly lucky!
[Nexus 4 General] Ftwisawesome:
Hey man,

Did any time of reciept come in the box? if so, could you please take pictrues of it? I just want to see if the value is declared on there. And if the google reciept is in there that's even more awesome please could you take a pic? black out anything that's private just tell us what you blackout so I know I didn't miss out on anything if you can do this I'll be so happy thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
I can't believe it. I cancelled my pre-order and re-pre-ordered (who says you can't use two hyphens in one word) using my full name in the billing address without the YouShop numbers and letters. I did that 6 hours ago, i just received an email saying that my order has shipped! Seems too good to be true considering the state of suppies. I have a UPS tracking code and it's on the move.

CORRECTION: My OLD order went through (that i cancelled??). It was submitted Dec 4th. I guess i cancelled it too late? My new order is still active. Strange, i almost shot myself in the foot :S Such is my life. Tempted to keep my new order in the works.
[Nexus 4 General] P1n3apqlExpr3ss:
It is coming officially to our shores guys, for $799..

http://mobilekiwi.co.nz/android/ite...dy-knew-nexus-4-on-its-way-next-week-for-$799
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
No google receipt, value declared at $100, item listed as cellphone

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with bond and bond and noel leeming pulling their items due to 'stock availability' and even suppliers in the USA (3rd party onsellers) increasing their availability times to 3-6 weeks. good luck to any retailers in nz getting stock. then again, with 2degrees being a carrier of sorts, they may be able to get their hands on them.

you can get them into the country through ebay for much cheaper but you wouldnt get the local warranty. not sure what the deal would be with the international warranty, but chances are looking better if LG is going to officially distribute the device in nz.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Thanks mate. I've updated the OP with this info...
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
That's a good point mate. I hope you don't mind but I've added it to the OP. You enjoying your phone?...I know I am :)

It seems crazy that we waited for weeks with Negri and got nowhere, then we ordered off eBay and it arrived in 3 and a half days!
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
$799 for a Nexus 4 when I can import one for $400? That's ridiculous! However, I get 12.5% off phones at The Warehouse and Warehouse Stationary (staff) so that knocks it down to $699, but still, that's a huge mark up. But I guess the benefit of having local support and getting it straight away is quite nice, but not worth $300 lol
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
It's a huge markup alright... But if you can import one for $400 then I'd go for that! I'd also like to see proof of it at that price... Considering the 16GB version in the US play store (which is what you get for $799 here) is $349 USD ($420 NZD) and that's not including shipping and also having to wait 8 weeks...:)
[Nexus 4 General] BalinorNZ:
Hi hadenkose,

Sorry if this is a question you have already answered.

You mention you bought the Nexus 4 from eBay for $795 NZD... from the youtube reviews i've seen it looks like the Nexus 4 is outperformed by the Galaxy S3 (and even the Galaxy Nexus in some cases) in browser responsiveness/browser speed, this is with both phones using Dolphin (i'm aware Chrome is much slower than the stock android browser found on other Android phones).

Now the strength of the Nexus 4 GPU may outweigh these browser performance issues when you consider how cheap the phone is, to buy a Nexus 4 in the US it's significantly cheaper than buying a GS3, but in NZ you can pick up a GS3 for under $700, a HTC One X for under $600.

You paid $795 for a Nexus 4, compared to the pricing for the GS3 and One X doesn't it seem a bit steep? Just wondering your reasoning for going for the Nexus 4 over the GS3 or One X in this circumstance?
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
Ahh, apologies. I thought the $799 was for the 8GB (because why would they announce the more expensive option). If it is the 16GB model, then that's not too bad (for me anyway because it's only $120 more than GPlay thanks to discount). I was looking at the Google Play Store price for the 8GB (which of course, isn't currently available anyway), and that comes to around about $400. Plus I'd have to wait about 3 months to get it. Not sure whether $120 is worth 8 weeks or not lol I'll have to see what the details are when it gets released on the 12th!