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[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ZachsIII:
i still have a number :(
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ZachsIII:
seems nice but where do i go to set this?!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ZachsIII:
wich account i need to use to get the access?!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] leezrd:
Just make up name got new one (setting >wireless> mobile networks> access points names> menu button new apn) for name put what ever you want and rest apply verbatim ( change name of at&t pta to something like at&t pat)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ZachsIII:
i dont see it on CM10, i only have VPN...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] leezrd:
Nothing about mobile networks

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OK it is Settings » More » Mobile Networks
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] faroreefer:
SYSTEM SETTINGS>More...>Mobile Networks (at the Bottom)> Acceess Point Names

Before you do this though download this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tweakker&hl=en

grab a pen and paper
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ZachsIII:
sorry i cannot access the google store apps, if i go to the website, i click on download, i log on, nothing appear
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ZachsIII:
i forgot to backup my APN settings, its why, how can i get it back?!
[Nexus 7 General] CLShortFuse:
Got my SIM card yesterday from T-Mobile.com

Got my Nexus 7 GSM today.

Cut up my full sized sim to fix into micro sim slot. Worked fine.

Inserted SIM into tablet. Got signal. So far so good.

Nexus 7 doesn't have Phone.apk or MMS.apk on launcher.

Fired up Wi-Fi, went to go Play Store.

Installed Go SMS Pro.

Set up my sim card online. Activated with $30 100 minutes, UL txt, 5GB plan.

Had to retry "nearest city" options and zip codes, but eventually got it to work.

Got my SMS notification on my tablet saying account is good.

Refilled for a month.

Got my SMS notification of the refill.

Setup a T-Mobile account with my prepaid number. All good.

0KB used.

Reboot tablet. I get "Sign into network" which is a html redirect page.

Every page redirects to sign in page. Can never sign in.

Research online.

Turns out it's detected as a tablet. IMEIs are apparently flagged by T-Mobile.

BAH!

I'll root and mess around my /efs/nv_data.bin and reboot back, but so far :-/

Edit: No /efs folder
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
That really sucks.

While I'm probably going to go with the $15 AT&T plan, the $30 TMO plan you referenced sounds like a perfect one for people who want a lot of data, SMS capabilities and some minutes for light talk usage. I was hoping it would work. Have you tried talking to T-Mobile about it?

Thanks for sharing. Hopefully there is a solution.
[Nexus 7 General] CLShortFuse:
I have the $15 AT&T plan (actually $10 unlimited) that I'm using for my Galaxy Note 10.1. I would try swapping around but the sim sizes are different. I'm pretty sure that TMobile will say that the Nexus 7 is a data-only device and won't let me do it.

Google has stripped WiFi tethering, MMS and Phone from the device and I'm sure it's no coincidence.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
"Stripped" might be too strong a word.

The non-3G versions never had any of those functions. I think it's more likely that they simply chose not (or forgot) to include them in the 3G version.

SMS actually does work, but inbound only (according to rumors) by default. But you can apparently use an SMS app to do outbound fine. There is another thread discussing the phone mod. Apparently a framework change can enable it, but no one has been able to test whether it works or not yet to place calls.

I imagine it would be trivial for a developer to add tethering support, though I don't see the need personally. Most people only care about tethering a non-3G tablet to a phone, not the other way around.

What $10 AT&T plan? Is that the "share your data" plan or an independent pre-paid one?

I don't need a lot of data, but I want to be able to have some if necessary. I also don't want to pay too much for it. $15 seems reasonable, but $10 is better - assuming I don't already need to have a phone with them.
[Nexus 7 General] isosunrise:
Did you register your sim to N7 IMEI or normal phone IMEI? Wonder if that makes a difference.
[Nexus 7 General] jdsemler:
Did you ensure the APN was what phones use for data rather than tablets/modems? Tweakker on the market will set it for you if you are unsure.
[Nexus 7 General] CLShortFuse:
I did all 1s a couple of times but I when I successfully activated I used the N7 IMEI and changed the "nearest city" option. I strongly doubt that was the issue since other people who have this problem with the TMobile branded Springboard say the SIM works on other devices. I can't test this since I have no other device (tablet or smartphone) that takes microSIM.

I checked them all manually. They were a little different than standard APNs (had a masked password and server field), but I modified them. I was still redirected. I'm pretty sure it's IMEI detection. I'll try it anyway. Edit: Tweaker is not supported on Play Store. I'll have to search for the APK
[Nexus 7 General] chismay:
wow operators starting to b a-holes eh?
[Nexus 7 General] jdsemler:
Look for Tweakker with two k's
[Nexus 7 General] smerrill:
When I try to install Tweakker from the store, Google Play reports that it is not compatible with my N7. (I did upgrade it to 4.2.)
[Nexus 7 General] CLShortFuse:
On any AT&T family plan with shared unlimited messaging, you can add unlimited data for $10 on dumbphones. If you don't have shared unlimited texting then it's $15/mo per dumbphone

Also, TMobile will let you use your voice plan package if you accept to pay an additional $15/mo to use "Mobile Broadband" which is using it on data-only devices (laptops/tablets)

Can you download it from the app store and upload the apk?
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
I'm confused. You put your SIM card into the device after cutting it down and once you booted it up, you had signal? You saw the H and everything? But you could not access tmo's data network immediately? But then you logged into the play store with wifi?
[Nexus 7 General] smerrill:
That's correct. I've already been shuttling a cut-down T-Mobile SIM between devices. When I have the SIM in the Nexus 7, I get a 3G or an H, but then when I try to make any web requests, I get redirected to My T-Mobile. (In addition, Android prompts me with a "Sign into network" item in the notification area.) I can log back into My T-Mobile with any browser, but that doesn't accomplish anything.

I then connect to the Play Store over WiFi but it won't let me download Tweakker.
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
Had you activated that sim card before on another phone? I am curious if you can activate it first one a phone, say a One S because it uses the micro sim, maybe thats all it needs? Hmm...
[Nexus 7 General] smerrill:
Yes. I've been using the SIM with an adapter in a Galaxy Nexus and an unlocked iPhone 4S just fine, and I have it happily getting data in my Galaxy Nexus as we speak.
[Nexus 7 General] nashi20002003:
Thanks guys for letting us know that Tmobile has blocked this. I kind of expect this since they have been cracking down...on the switching SIMS between different devices types.

Specially with them in touch with google on Nexus 4 and also were preparing to partner with Google to sell the Nexus 7 3G with a Tmobile SIM (like Google is doing with ATT) according to some leaked Tmo news pictures..., We should have expected this already.

It was a few months back they blocked the opposite: using data broadband plans SIM in unlocked phones like Nexus. We used to be able to do that.

Still it's unfortunate. Thanks for saving me to try the same and be stucked with a SIM i can not use effectively. To the OP; you can still use the micro SIM in a regular device without an adapter. You just need to position it right and may be try a couple times. I did not this until I saw somebody do it. Since then if I have cut a sim, I can still use it without an adapter. Just make sure you position it right....by try and error...or by inserting a regular SIM and picking up where the metal needs to touch the phone.

For all if you really want Tmobile...you can use the Special Walmart plan...which gives 60 days if you buy the $35 or $50 plans. To a point it may be equal or better deal than the 5gig $30.....depends if you do not use too much data...you can use: $35 for 3.5 gig for 60 days....or $50 5 gig for 60 days.

That's the way I may go or I may go the way of Ultra Mobile MVNO which is coming up with pay as you go @ 4.9 cents per mb in January. This is expensive but it's 4g hspa+ pay as you go to use only while needing fast data in areas where no wifi is there or my freedom hotspot has reach is fast 500 mb limit or no Clear coverage is being picked up.

We should also try to see if Tmobile is doing the same blocking while using MVNO....plans. If that's the case then the above Ultra plan won't help. In order to get better data deals we would need Voice/data plans from mvno..But that in itself is not useful unless we're able to enable both voice...and data on 3g nexus. Ultra has plans with data or voice only while data costing 2 cents per mb. Or Straightalk/Net10 $45 plans if only the voice can also be enabled.

MVNO do not usually have good deals on data only plans.

On the other side ATT broadband plans are interesting for 3gb for $30. Not quite 5 gig but better coverage.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Can you share some more info on this plan?

I just signed up for the AT&T $15 30day/250MB plan. But this sounds a lot better!

I'm generally around Wi-Fi, so don't need a ton of data. But I'd rather pay (effectively) $15/month for 2-2.5GB then 250MB.
[Nexus 7 General] nashi20002003:
well......doing some reading I got this from Walmart....Not good news. Now I understand why when I switched my SIM from a USB stick device bought at Walmart to a USB stick sent by Tmobile it kept blocking me and redirecting me as with the OP.... It took multiple support calls to Tmobile tech reps...to no avail. Until the recreated my account with free data posted to it and with the regular 30 days limit. They told me I could switch back to the Walmart special at the end of the month...but never was able to get it done....I ended up selling the USB stick....so it seems there's IMEI checking on SIM activated with the 60 days specials....so this won't help on Nexus 3G

Access 4G Internet on the go with the T-Mobile $35 Prepaid Mobile Broadband Pass. It offers 3.5GB of data usage and is good for 60 days only at Walmart. Pass is only eligible on broadband devices purchased at a Walmart after 6/1/2012. The pass includes no activation fee, no annual contract, no credit check and no overages. And it works with any new T-Mobile Laptop Stick or mobile hotspot purchased at Walmart. If you regularly surf the web, check email and update your social network, this card is a good choice.

T-Mobile $35 Prepaid Mobile Broadband Pass (Email Delivery):

Provides 3.5GB of data usage

*Good for 60 days

No activation fee, annual contract, credit check or overages

Works with any T-Mobile Internet device

*60 day pass is only eligible on broadband devices purchased at Walmart after 6/1/2012
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
THis pretty much sums up how I feel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYwWKEc8c88

Ironically, as soon as I posted this, I got the shipping notification at 3 AM CST. But Im still sad about the tmo thing not working :(
[Nexus 7 General] Explore3:
I had hoped that I could use my 3g Nexus 7 on the $30 tmobile plan. I was thinking of registering on the plan when I traveled. I guess the only hope is that someone figures out a work around or tmobile offers a decent data plan. At least, I was primarily planning to use 3g overseas.

It looks like I will be teathering my N7 for for data when away from wifi. :( This is a pain. In addition, I could have waited and ordered my 3g N7 from B&H Photo and avoided shipping and tax.
[Nexus 7 General] sighdroid:
That's a shame. I just picked up a micro sim from Three in the UK and it works great in my nexus. I can send text messages using go SMS pro and best of all, I get unlimited data!
[Nexus 7 General] GETCASHMONEY:
So is it not possible to use the nexus 7 as your phone on at&t or T-Mobile? I figured you could use groove IP for the phone calls.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
There is a difference between using the tablet as a phone on a cellular network vs a VoIP provider like Groove IP. The latter works fine. The question is, can we get the former to work.
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
THat is not what this thread is about. This thread is about the fact that t-mobile USA is being a big pile of poop and won't let us use sim cards that have a phone plan on them. They are implying that you have to get add the N7 as an internet device.

Now that I am thinking about it, isn't there something in the registry that says something along the lines of what kind of device this is, and if you change it, you might fool t-mobile into thinking that this is a phone? I don't remember where I read about this, maybe trying to get some apps to be compatible on the device.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
I highly doubt anything you do on the phone, short of changing the IMEI (if that's even possible) is going to "fool" T-Mobile. It's one thing if the device is causing a limitation - that there might be an easy work around for. But if the carrier is not letting you even use the service due to the type of device, it's probably doing that due to the IMEI and it sees it as a tablet - not a phone.
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
I was just in the UK! When I got to the airport, I found a vending machine that was selling sim cards of all sorts from all the UK carriers. I didn't really need to make calls, so I just got a SIM card meant for tablets on Three UK and popped it into my Gnex. I think it was something like 30 quid for 3 GB of data, but it was all I needed because I could text to people back home for free with my google voice account. This is why I was hoping that the reverse would be true with T-mobile USA where you could pop in a sim card associated with a phone line into the device and that it would work fine. So it appears that anyone else is able to do this, just not us folks with t-mobile.
[Nexus 7 General] foxmulder:
I have a second "internet" only line with no text/voice. I use it with my Tmo hotspot. Will this work?
[Nexus 7 General] androph:
I took the sim from my oneS and put it in my N7....got redirected when connect to internet.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
I hope so! It should, unless T-Mobile is going super crazy with limitations. Give it a try and let us know.
[Nexus 7 General] nashi20002003:
Yes it should. Unless your device got the Walmart special plans with 60 days. Those are restricted
[Nexus 7 General] isosunrise:
Has any of the other T-mobile USA plans (data-only or phone planes, pre/post paid) been confirmed to work on the Nexus 7? Anybody tried, other then speculations?
[Nexus 7 General] Mitalis:
I was planning on using the $3 "Pay by the Day plan" which offers the first 400mb in 4G speeds then the remainder in regular data... But if T-Mobile is blocking devices by IMEI then that plan just went out the door......
[Nexus 7 General] trafficontrolr:
I can confirm the issue, I've tried everything I can think of to get around it, but no dice. I'm hoping it's the tablet or software and not T-mobile...My Straight Talk microsim works without issue, just had to manually add the apn.
[Nexus 7 General] Knolly:
Ugh this is disappointing. Was considering buying a 3G Nexus 7 so I could swap my sim over from my phone when I wanted to use it but I guess it isn't possible.
[Nexus 7 General] smerrill:
I can confirm the same thing. My AT&T Straight Talk microSIM works fine. I just put it in, and selected the "ATT Broadband" APN which automatically came up, and I get nice fast AT&T HSPA+ data. It's really a shame about the T-Mobile prepaid plan not working.
[Nexus 7 General] NORCALkID:
Where can I buy straight talk from?
[Nexus 7 General] giant22000:
Walmart. You'll most likely have to order the byod sim from their website as only a few select walmarts carry them in the store. $45/month for unlimited txt/minutes/data. But in all actuality, with the t-mobile sim you'll throttle between 5-7GB. This is still a good deal for $45 imo.
[Nexus 7 General] adamhlj:
When I went into the tmo store, I added a second line hoping that I could use the unlimted 4G plan with it, but the guy told me that you have to add it as an "internet device." Since I figured I would have 2 weeks go cancel the second line, I wasn't too worried about it because I wanted to be ready to go when the tablet came and I told him that I wanted to test it out just to see if it will work. So according to the information on this thread, the plan I have right now won't work, but most likely adding the tablet as an internet device will work just fine. But you will either have to call tmobile or go to their stores and do it because the tmobile website doesn't seem to allow you to add your own device. You have to add one of the tablets they offer for sale and then, well, buy it.
[Nexus 7 General] Mitalis:
That's good to know, so Straight-Talk through AT&T works... I wonder if their plans that run through T-Mobile's towers work too?
[Nexus 7 General] nealllee:
So can you make phone calls via GSM?
[Nexus 7 General] thph2006:
Should have read this thread!

Ordered mine Friday 11/16. Got the tracking email the next day. Unfortunately I'm going to have to send it back once it arrives. I didn't do my homework and assumed it would work on the $30 plan (the only plan I can afford right now). Pretty obvious from this thread it won't. Maybe I'll get lucky and grab a Nexus 4 when they restock the Play Store. At least I know the N4 is compatible with the plan.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
How much data do you need in a month? There are plans that range from $15-$30 that do work perfectly fine on the tablet.
[Nexus 7 General] mikespe:
Uh I may have missed something but you do know you have to get the DATA ONLY plan from T-Mobile don't you? I was in T-Mobile last weekend and they said that is the plan you have to get...I believe it's $25-$30 for 5gb..then it's throttled back...

I apologize if you guys are talking about something else?

Sent by an Android Guy using an iPad...
[Nexus 7 General] bananachunks:
I just came from my local TMO store. After talking to CS, the associate confirmed that (due to revenue), the N73G is a non-compatible device on the $30/4G prepaid plan. Suck.
[Nexus 7 General] nealllee:
You can try att mobile share or just buy data
[Nexus 7 General] cmstlist:
The T-Mobile prepaid $25/1.5 GB or $35/3.5 GB prepaid data plans are still within your range, or the AT&T $30/3GB plan (both prepaid & postpaid available).
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
I know people have reported that the Straight Talk AT&T BYOD SIM works, but has anyone tried the T-Mobile version?

Since voice calling is looking pretty unlikely, at least right now, data is the only thing that really matters. Since the AT&T version of Straight Talk is limited to about 100MB/day and 2GB/month, there are better plans than the $45 Straight Talk one (using AT&T). But I read that there are no enforced data caps with T-Mobile Straight Talk. So if that SIM works, and someone needs >4-5GB, it might be the best solution.
[Nexus 7 General] AFAinHD:
I really don't understand, why don't you just go into your build.prop and make your N7 mimic a Galaxy Nexus??
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Probably because that has nothing to do with the issue and wouldn't solve anything. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 General] AFAinHD:
TMobile recognizes the Nexus 7 as a tablet...

What does the build.prop contain?

ro.product.model=Nexus 7

ro.product.brand=google

ro.product.name=nakasi

ro.product.device=grouper

ro.product.board=grouper
[Nexus 7 General] bananachunks:
I'd love to see someone try it (haven't rooted mine yet), but I have a feeling it's tied to IMEI, not the build.prob. I'd love to be wrong, though!
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
If you were trying to use a T-Mobile APK, the build.prop might mean something. But that has nothing to do with registering to the carrier's wireless network (voice or data). The information in the build.prop file isn't transmitted to them. What is sent however, is the IMEI of the device - which T-Mobile clearly has flagged as a tablet and, for whatever reason, seems to be blocking it.

The only explanation that makes sense is that T-Mobile doesn't want tablets on phone plans. Probably because they realize that your more likely to use more data on a tablet then a phone, so they want you to pay the higher amount.

So in this case, the build.prop file is irrelevant. Even when it comes to enabling voice call functionality, you need to edit the framework.apk to get the dialer working. However, limitations in either the hardware or firmware of the radio have proven (so far) to make voice calling over the carrier impossible.
[Nexus 7 General] UberSlackr:
T-mobile SIM from StraightTalk works fine..

When you buy the SIM from StraightTalk you have to pick "T-Mobile Compatible Phone" instead of "Unlocked GSM Phone" to get a T-mobile SIM.

When you activate the SIM, you enter the IMEI (Serial Number) on the back of the Activation card, not the Devices IMEI.. This will cause problems if you do.. Then cut the SIM down to Size, and you are good to go.. Mine has been working all weekend. Nice and Speedy, No Redirects, SMS works (incoming & outgoing), but No Phone (mentioned this so that someone nitwit doesn't ask "Can you make Calls?")

(Note: This is working for me just fine, If you run out and buy a T-mobile SIM from StraightTalk and you are unable to get it to work, then its not my problem - Don't start complaining/crying to me that it doesn't work. It's a $10 loss, deal with it..)

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Still waiting for iFixit to do a tear down of the N7 3G to find out what it has under-the-covers...

They've managed to take the N4 apart, not sure if they will get to the N7 3G though... If more people would send them a request, they just might..

Or maybe someone here on XDA will get to it first (haven't seen any post on it yet though)

I'm not about to tear mine apart to see whats inside... I have another one set to be delivered in the AM tomorrow, but still not gonna tear it down (its a back-up.)
[Nexus 7 General] AFAinHD:
Well damn. Sorry I thought it might be of some help. Damn, there's no helping the IMEI. I've never heard of T-Mobile being so strict.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
Not exactly. While it's true you should always chose either an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM when dealing with Straight Talk, even if your device is unlocked, that's because it's better for YOU to decide which carrier you want to be on. If you chose "unlocked", Straight Talk will pick one of them for you. It's not always going to be AT&T. They determine what's cheaper/better for them based on the market in which you live. If T-Mobile is what they pick, T-Mobile is what you get. But if you want ATT/TMO, and your phone can support it, pick the one you want.

I think you are confusing the IMEI with the ICCID. My ST BYOD SIM card didn't have any IMEI on it. They ask for the one in the device you are using, as this is a device ID - why would they include that on the SIM card?

Do you really think saying that will stop people from asking? :p
[Nexus 7 General] Explore3:
I know that T-Mobile usb modems can only use data SIMs not phone SIMs.
[Nexus 7 General] phonic:
It should be noted that T-Mobile actually sells two different types of SIM cards. They have their "normal" SIM cards for phones, generally $0.99 or free, and a data device SIM card that they sell for $6.99. Talk about a ****ing gimmick and BS upcharge. I'm not sure if they restrict certain SIMs to certain devices or just pretend like they do, but it seems like the IMEI is checked.
[Nexus 7 General] spinkick:
I got burned by this.. so now im using the att 3gig for 30 a month plan vs the 5 gig one from tmobile.