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[Nexus 4 General] Post_Modern_Human:
True about the rattle, don't think it will be an issue. I will give the backlight bleeding a few days as I know it can reduce in visibility after some use but I don't want to wait too long that I won't be able to go back to 2degrees and exchange it.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Mine rattles as well. Was a little disconcerting at first, but seeing as it's not actually a fault, I've gotten used to it. My screen is great though - no backlight bleeding at all. Hopefully when you've given it a few days it might settle down and even out. :)

I've updated the OP with PB Tech's $786 offering and also MobiCity's whopping $864 offering.
[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
listed on trademe
[Nexus 4 General] Randy_Lahey:
Link? :)
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
How did the you get the case shipped? I keep trying but they say they won't ship it to my New Zealand addy :(
[Nexus 4 General] Randy_Lahey:
There is an awesome site called www.trademe.co.nz that sell cases AND SP's for most phones including the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
ASiautst far

I do believe I have seen that. And the selection is not as great and I would rather order from overseas is there a problem with asking how they got theirs sent from amazon?
[Nexus 4 General] Randy_Lahey:
No problem, I just thought it would be easier if you ordered local. You also don't have to deal with the hassle of overseas shipping as well.
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
The only one on there seems to be a leather case which you take the phone out from. To be fair I would buy from a shop if they had cases, semi pevved they don't since the glass on the back of my phone has already smashed.
[Nexus 4 General] Starlith:
Also there are some really good quality Nillkin cases on trade me that most people overseas would find it hard to get in their local territory
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
It's late forgive me :p
[Nexus 4 General] Randy_Lahey:
Here you go: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Sea...Search_keypresses=7&generalSearch_suggested=0
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
Yeah I found them thanks! Stupid me :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
My links in the OP are all ok to send to nz - You just need to make sure you select the shipping option directly from Rearth, not the amazon one. Some of those cases on trademe look pretty good as well. Good luck :)
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
Yeah think I'll get one from trademe as well as a Nexus 7 case. I am too scared the screen will crack specially after such a small fall to smash the back glass.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Pb Technology has cases and screen protectors for both as an alternative to trade me. Just picked up an n4 case yesterday as they have clear ones which shows off the sexy back better than the Nillkin one from trade me.

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Sent from my AOKP powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
Excellent! Don't think I'll get a clear one the back on mine is cracked up the wazoo.
[Nexus 4 General] yjxzy:
thank hadenkose so much, finaly got my n4

I excetly use you method to buy a N4 from google play, 28/11/2012 order (4-5 week), 28/12/2012 shiped and charged, 09/01/2013 youshop send to my address. thanks again, it's pretty cheaper than the local shop, but you have to wait a long time ;).

By the way, on the morning of 28/12/2012, I have checked the google play, the oreder is still pre-order, but when I got lucky draw - an iphone5 in the anual dinner of my company, I checked the google play again, they charged and shipped it already. Lucky ?:p
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Sell the iPhone?

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Sent from my AOKP powered Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] yjxzy:
Sorry, maybe trademe the N4
[Nexus 4 General] lordblah:
But the Nexus 4 is better than the iphone 5?
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
And you'll get way more money selling the iPhone
[Nexus 4 General] Maxermus:
Can you put up a pic of your case of your phone... this has me interested :)
[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
Hey guys,

Not wanting to spam the thread selling my warez, but Trademe removed my action because it (obviuosly) doent have an NZ power plug.

I may relist with an NZ plug - but if any one here is keen I'd rather sell to an XDA buddy.

So if you are keen for an unopened N4, I can ship ASAP. PM me and we can talk. (Under $700).
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
youshop pita

My nexus 4 got delivered to youshop in the middle of last week (confirmed by google tracking number)

I still haven't got an email from them to say they have it.

NZPost (who operate youshop) have said:

We are currently waiting on a final update from the warehouse regarding the parcel that contains a Nexus Google phone.

Currently, there is another inquiry going with the same issue in which your Nexus phones have been delivered but no further uploads have been made to your YouShop account. I have sent an urgent request for updates with our product manager for YouShop included.

Please accept my apologies.

Regards,

Vili Pedro | Customer Service Representative

Looks like there are other people in the same boat. Better not have been stolen.

Dammit. Pain in the ass.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Bugger! I hope it turns out OK for you mate. :) Let us know how it all ends up.
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
PB Tech have updated price to $759 incl. GST. Seems they have quite a bit of stock too.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Sweet. I'll update the OP. Do you know if it's official nz stock or parallel imported? Either way it's the cheapest on offer here at the moment :)
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
I just got a reply from them and it's imported. Still cheaper compared to 2degrees :)

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Negri Electronics have it back in stock (16GB) for $550 USD. It's about on par with our cheap options here, so I'd stick to buying it from local sources.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Expert Infotech have 16GB Nexus 4's for $738.97. I've updated the OP with a link. They will be imported but having dealt with them before they were good when I needed to replace a defective phone.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Always had good after sales service from pb tech so no reason not to use them as far as I can see.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I would never deal with expert infotech again. My ex had a defective phone which they wouldn't cover and screwed us around. Also they would confirm stock availability and you would go in and they wouldn't have it and try sell you something else, even offered second hand used goods!!

Just my personal experience. This was from a while ago so they might have gotten their act together. But we were this close to the small courts tribunal with them over manufacturers warranty issues.

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I have had nothing but good experiences with Pbtech. One of the higher rated distributors in Auckland/NZ. Gameplanet forums have a good list of sellers and ratings etc just Google it and find the thread.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Complete opposite to my experience. When I bought my SGSII from them towards the end of 2011 the screen had a really blueish tint to it. I put up with it for a few days and then decided that it was so annoying that I had to change it. When I took it in they were a little sceptical at first, but when they put it up against another SGSII and saw that it was infact defective they swapped my phone out there and then, no questions asked.

What was the problem with your ex's phone? Never had problems with the stock availability or them trying to sell me another item and I've bought 3 phones through them in the past. Maybe I was just lucky? :)

One of the things which is annoys me about PB Tech is that they never have GST included in their prices by default. I find this can be a little miss-leading - I realise that they say excluding GST, but there is no reason not to include it unless you were wanting to give the impression that the item is cheaper than it actually is. I have found them to be good otherwise.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Firmware issues with the exs phone. Random reboots and freezes. Then wouldnt work at all, intermittently. Tried for a replacement but they put it on RMA and then tried to charge her for a "repair" when all they did was a factory reset. This was a few days after purchase, no damage.

Was back in mid late 09. Things might have changed since then.

I bought a Nokia 5800 at the same time with no issues so could have been a one off with a certain staff member but it was a huge hassle going back and forth to the shore when all they did was play with settings when it was more than that plus trying to charge us for that ... was not fun.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
These probably wont look good without the g+ interface etc. But here ya go
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
These probably wont look good without the g+ interface etc. But here ya go View attachment 1648942View attachment 1648946
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
It really could just be the luck of the draw. Sounds like they were bloody unhelpful!

Great pics! Looks like you've mastered the photosphere mode! How's the trip going?
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Left Brazil a few days ago and now making my way thru Argentina. At Mendoza at the moment, vineyards today and then up to the Andes tomorrow.

Nexus wise, it got pretty wet while filming at iguazu falls and survived! The cheap you case probably helped as it covers most of the phone apart from the mic ports and charging and headphone jack.

Its survived countless beaches and sand etc but the cheap screen protector has quite a few small scratches. Not sure how the bare gorilla glass would have stood up.

Photos are much better than the galaxy nexus but still not up to the level of my point and shoot. That being said I have a canon s95 which is a decent device and I would usually run my canon 5dm2 dslr if it was a different sort of trip.

HDR mode is fantastic if you can keep still for the double exposure. The tegra4 soc promises single exposure HDR but the release date is a few quarters away.

Advice to those traveling with the n4 especially backpacking is invest in one of those battery packs you can recharge. I carry a 4000mah pack and use it constantly! No remove able battery sucks.

8gb has been annoying but only because I don't 100% trust Google instant upload yet. Done a secondary backup to drop box before deleting off the phone but takes time and a decent WiFi connection. USB otg would have solved this item!!

Any other questions of living with an n4 as a sole device for an extended time , happy to share

Cheers
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Sounds like a/some youshop employee's stole my n4. There are three other people in the same situation, phone arrives at youshop (confirmed by google tracking number), phone goes missing.

They are still looking for it, reviewing security footage etc, they will have a final update for me tomorrow, if they haven't found it by then (doubt it-it arrived two and a half weeks ago) I guess I'll get a refund. Not that I can buy it from google again as it isn't available.
[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
MY youshop experience wasn't a disater, but I woudl think twice about using them again.

I asked for a redirected delivery for one package - they redirected 2 packages and never told me. Tracking numbers don't update. And NZ post aren't really very helpful or knowlegdable about it. Maybe MyUS is a better option in the future.

Man that sux someone stole it. I put the value of my package at $70 and was worried that if it went missing I would only be able to claim $70.

Feel free to bid on mine - its the only $1 res one on TM. Sealed 16gb.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
That's terrible news mate. I'll make a note of it in the OP for people to be wary when using YouShop. Closer to home, I've been having some real delivery problems with CourierPost. Overnight deliveries are turning into 7 or 8 days (an overnight signature required delivery that was sent on the 20th of December and should have arrived on the 21st turned up at my works front door on the 15th of Jan - no signature taken either). So it leads me to believe that if NZ Post can't get their own house in order, what chance do they have of keeping YouShop up to speed? :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Yeah it really sucks, especially considering i have my n4 bumper here (for a few weeks) but no phone. The bumper came through youshop fine.

Maybe I should list it on trademe @ $1 reserve... tho I'll probably just wait till the n4 comes back on sale and buy a n4 again-whenever that is.

Interesting about courier post, I generally find them really good, nzpost not so much.

I'll post on here when they update me tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] republicano:
I brought mine for 740, I just missed out on the wherehouse red hot deal so brought one off a phone suppler out south, it was worth the price in mid dec, phone was checked and shipped before hand and its been fine since.

I brought a sony phone of expert infotech and the phone was fine, I noticed they repair and sell items stated with faults, while waiting, one guy came with a laptop issue possible mainboard and they were trying to charge him $400 before the inspection, they stated that once its open they want to fix it then and there.he just wanted them to tell him what's wrong.

I would buy it from pb with the tech support they have.

cheaper ones on trademe but If there is an issue it will be a headache to sort out warranty with lg,
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Response from NZPost regarding youshop below - note the %15 discount code if anyone wants to use it.

Unfortunately, we have had negative responses regarding the location of your item. Our product manager and I have been very proactive in trying to get answers and details regarding the delivery of your item to our warehouse.

Our warehouse was requested to do a full depot search, check delivery logs and inventory checks. This caused our warehouse to involve additional resources for the labour that was required; this basically was the reason for the delay in contacting you with responses or updates.

I can assure you that your cases have been forwarded to our risk and security management team due to the type of items that have gone missing and that there are multiple instances in which the Nexus Phone has gone missing. There is also going to be a full conference with our warehouse and counterparts to discuss your case file and whether there is an actual reason that your items went missing after delivery.

I do understand that these Nexus phones are out of stock and this will now cause you to wait for the next lot of phones to be ordered.

At this stage, we will be heading down the path of compensation. Can you please provide the following information?

- Bank account number

Also, as a gesture of good will I wish to provide you with our 15% discount code which can be used on multiple shipments; this code is YouShopBF12. Please note that this code expires on 28 February 2013.

Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience and for the frustration that is going to be caused with the loss of your item.
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
Wow man that really sucks, especially because you'll only get the amount you paid for it back, which is useless because you can't buy them that cheap. They should really be compensating for the cost of another phone, but I doubt it'll happen.

I just ordered a Nexus 10 and it got delivered this morning to their Warehouse, so hopefully no one steals my package. I hope that I get a confirmation that it arrived soon.

Anyway best of luck with sorting this mess out.
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Thanks, does anyone know the laws that cover me? Do they have to provide a replacement or a refund, or can they choose what to do?

There's nothing in their T&C's about this.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

It's illegal to change for goods or services which haven't been provided. They must refund you.
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
I know I'm entitled to a refund, but at what price? The NZ selling price, or the US price?

If they give me my money back for the US price, I can't order the phone as it's out of stock. If they refund me what it's selling for in NZ (around $650) then I could buy one locally.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

They are obliged to refund you whatever value you paid them.
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
I paid them nothing, they were supposed to be forwarding me the phone for $17, but that never happened because someone stole it from them. I paid google $350 USD.
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
Well in the Consumers Guarantees Act it says this (pulled from Consumer.org.nz)

A service provider must fix the problem within a reasonable time.

If the problem cannot be fixed, or cannot be put right within a reasonable time, or is substantial, you can:

Reject the product and choose a replacement of the same type or similar value or a full refund of your purchase price; or

Claim compensation for any drop in the value of the product or service.

I am wondering if the drop in value will cover this as well, but I would doubt it. I think the most you are entitled to is a refund :( But you could always try your luck with them.

Oh and a little side note, I just got the confirmation email from YouShop saying that it has arrived, so I've payed for it and hopefully should be arriving within the fortnight :D
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Thanks,

It says or...hmmmm

Reject the product and choose a replacement of the same type or similar value or a full refund of your purchase price

Hopefully that means I can choose to have a replacement?
[Nexus 4 General] republicano:
i have never used youshop service, but have lost items via courier post and nzpost, they just pay you out the value plus shipping,conversion etc they dont provide a replacement as they are not a retailer. its cheaper to refund then to pay someone wage to order your item with warranty transfer etc.insurance claim
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

There are other reputable forwarding companies. A work mate of mine uses shipitto.com I think or some variant of that name
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

Yeap, a refund is fine, but as i can't buy the nexus 4 if they give me a refund (not available in play store and the $450 amount isn't enough to buy one new from NZ), should the refund be at NZ retail price or US play store price?

If i could buy it in the US via play store, I'd be happy with the $450, but since I can't I'm stuck until they come back in stock if they refund the US price (the amount I paid). It's not like it was lost... Their employees stole a bunch of the Nexus 4s at the YouShop address.
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

They will only pay you what you paid for the goods, you can't expect them to give you extra.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

I totally agree. They will only ever refund you the amount you paid for the item. Unfortunately they can't refund you for your time lost and the inconvenience it has caused you. So you'll most likely be getting the $350USD back... But seeing as the exchange rate is a little higher now, you might make a few bucks extra when you convert it back to NZD.

On another note. Anybody here having trouble with their volume keys? My up volume key only works when I push it really hard! Down volume works as it should...
[Nexus 4 General] Basil3:
Don't worry guys, you're not alone. I'm a kiwi living in Ireland and I can't get my hands on one, even though the Google headquarters are here and they supposedly all shipped out of Ireland into Europe.

Am still hoping to get my hands on one before I head back to NZ for Xmas.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey guys. I've just pre-ordered a Nexus 4 from this website http://www.negrielectronics.com/

I've asked on one of the other threads if they are a legit company and only two people replied, one of them said from what they had heard, they were above board (the other hadn't heard of them). Also, Engadget have written this article about the PadFone in the US and they seem quite happy with Negri http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/10/asus-padfone-tablet-station-us-negri-electronics/ Google also reveals some favourable and non-favourable reviews.

They have them on pre-order (expected stock arrival of the 23rd Nov - but I think that might be a bit optimistic) for $448.50USD and it cost $69.50USD for shipping to NZ. This was a total of $518USD which with the current exchange rates is around $635NZD. So not too bad a deal. (I reckon around $150 more than if I had got my brother to get it in OZ)

The payment was made through my google wallet account, with my NZ credit card and NZ address attached to it. At the moment it is still pending, but hopefully that will change soon.

I'll keep you all updated on this and also with any more purchasing opportunities I find...:D
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Thanks ill check them out. Dont forget NZ customs will charge another 15% gst when it arrives
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Yeah, I thought about that - that will push the cost out to around $700.
[Nexus 4 General] dmbkiwi:
One word: ebay
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I have one coming through Negri as well

Don't worry about customs charges- Negri puts $199 value on all their overseas shipments and if you check the nz customs calculator, it falls below the required level = no customs fees
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Good to know...now lets see who's arrives first.. :D
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
There are plenty on eBay....but they are all from greedy pricks :mad: who want way too much for them...$500usd + for an 8gb version - No thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] ghalalb:
I'm a kiwi in London. I feel your pain, but it's the same here, though the phones are becoming available in stores for £395, so some of the deals you are finding there are very reasonable.

I'm heading home in March of next year, i'm pretty sure i'll have one by then! But only really want to pay the Google Play price! We'll have to pressure big boy dotcom to get Google on board back in NZ :) isn't he bringing better internet :p
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
when did you order? im in the first 10 pre orders :) negri is bringing in 50 units on their first batch so it will come down to where you are in nz I think!!

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just checked and the availability date on negri has now slipped to Dec 7

/wtffffffff
[Nexus 4 General] dmbkiwi:
Not saying buy now, but when the play store gets some stock, the ebay prices will drop - although I imagine you'll need to pay some sort of premium.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
How did you find out where you are in the queue? I only ordered yesterday morning and my order still says "pending". It is on my credit card, but not showing yet...I'd say you are well ahead of me...

So long as I'm in line to get one, the estimated date is not too much of a bother for me....but the sooner it arrives the better!
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
email support at negrielectronics dot com and give them your order number and ask where in the pre order queue you are
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Don't think I'm even in the queue as I'm still pending... Google wallet haven't processed my payment yet....:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
you'll be in the queue