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[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I hope so. I was having issues with my google wallet yesterday - it just wouldn't allow me to purchase anything from the play store. The reply I got from google help was to leave it for 24 hours and then see if it works again...surprisingly enough, it did!

My only worry with my order at Negri is that at the time my Google wallet had the billing address of the YouShop depot in the US (in anticipation of snagging a nexus 4 on the US play store). I've since changed to back to my original address, so hopefully the payment will still go through. It has been authenticated but not fully charged to my credit card, so I'm hoping that's a good thing. It is still pending in Google wallet though. I read that Negri only charge the card a few days before shipment of the phone.

I've also noticed that Negri have removed the option for payment from the google wallet for the pre-order and that the only other option in to tick a box to say you are in the US and use PayPal.

Has anybody else come across another way to pre-order a nexus 4 yet? :confused:

I've Updated the OP to show the buying options at Negri Electronics
[Nexus 4 General] rh2600:
For the Nexus 7 I got a colleague in Australia to go through the whole rigmarole of ordering me one and then on-shipping it to NZ. By the time it landed for him there and then got forwarded to NZ via customs etc it took a couple of weeks. By which time PBtech had already had them on the shelf for a whopping $20 more.

So this time, I'm just going to wait until some local outlets start having some in stock, on the basis that before then supply will be low so prices will always be a premium, plus you'll get a warranty you can actually use if need be. It can't be that for off can it? :)
[Nexus 4 General] Starlith:
I'm getting my cousin to buy it for me in aus would she be able to send it over here without customs charging gst for it? She would be sending it over as a gift of course.. Just need to know others experience with customs.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
From what i can ascertain online it appears that if import duty and GST of the imported item fall under the $50/$60 minimum threshold then you shouldn't get charged anything extra. Anything over that then you will get charged.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I randomly checked the negri site during the weekend to see if the availability date had changed, and was shocked to see it was in stock and 'pre order' changed to 'add to cart'. for both 8 and 16gb models

unfortunately after checking their twitter feeds, it was a mistake.

/sadface.
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

My volume is okay but it doesn't sit parallel to the side of the phone, the top slants in and there's slot less resistance when pressing volume up than down. So possibly an issue with the design or part.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
My volume rocker has the same resistance for up and down and it sits parallel to the phone. I guess every phone is different :laugh:

On another note, anybody got anything to report? I noticed an article/semi review in the Herald yesterday. It gave the N4 a 4/5 and the Galaxy note II 4.5/5. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10860743 It's a very "light" review and seems to me to be written by someone who would probably prefer an iphone to an android device. It doesn't even scratch the surface as to the development potential of both phones...ie. the fact that the N4 is ASOP ready and custom ROMs worked pretty much straight out of the box or the fact that Samsung has "hamstrung" the developer community by repeatedly offering false promises for releasing Exynos sources to enable the full potential of it's devices to be utilised by custom developers. Samsung are well on their way to becoming the "Apple" of Android devices. Sorry, rant over :D

Does anybody here have a wireless Qi charging mat for their N4? I'd love to get the Google branded one, but that still hasn't been released. Android Central have reported that it may be released during February in Europe...http://www.androidcentral.com/official-nexus-4-wireless-charging-orb-appears-norwegian-retailer-feb-release-slated I'd love to see this accessory make an appearance in our neck of the woods!
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

I got a cheap knock off QI charger for fifty bucks off eBay. Don't have link on me but it's the white plastic ones. It does the job I just have to place the phone in the top right corner for it to work. I'm contemplating getting the energizer one but it's like a hundred bucks.

Definitely getting the Google orb if it ever releases.

Forgot to add I had to get a power plug adapter for the eBay one
[Nexus 4 General] Maxermus:
I got one from TradeMe... $100 including postage which was worth it to me. Would have paid more lol and it works awesome... I actually think it charges my phone better for some reason. Recently went on holiday and just charged from the adapter but it didnt seem to be giving me as much life and I was wifi connected about the same amount. On that same note my Nexus 7 charger seems to do the same thing so maybe it the 2amp output :confused: who knows...

here is a pic of my charger next to my bed just waiting for my phone :) no loud beeps or any annoying placement issues... it just works :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] P1n3apqlExpr3ss:
Well it is the Herald and is aimed at people that go "ooh, Samsung, I want it". I work retail and had an old couple come in today that wanted a GS3 because her daughter recommended it. I'm not sure if there was any reasoning behind it because I didn't need/have to give any so that's pretty much the average consumer these days.

And I agree completely with you on Samsung become Apple, especially if they end up launching a couple Tizen devices later this year. TouchWiz that thing up and use a Bluestacks-ish package to play nice with Android apps and only XDA will know the difference
[Nexus 4 General] Post_Modern_Human:
Have had my Nexus 4 for a few weeks. On my second unit from 2degrees, got this one on January 3. I really like this phone but the back-light bleeding on my unit that I've mentioned in earlier posts is still there, along the upper half of the right side of the screen. I emailed LG New Zealand and they (well LG Australia actually) replied saying that I had to deal with 2degrees for repairs. Not sure if I should try taking it back to 2degrees, not even sure I still can since it's been around 3 weeks since I got the phone. I think I could get them to send it to a service center but since it's a screen issue I assume they would just replace the phone. It's such a small problem and I'm trying to ignore it but it really bugs me that this phone is so close to being perfect except for this small imperfection. Really think LG messed up with production of this phone and overall quality control has suffered - not sure I want to risk getting a phone that could have different/worse issues.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Re: Nexus 4: The New Zealand Thread

No harm in trying. 3 weeks means nothing if it is a manufacturers fault. Consumers guarantees act says something about the expected operational life of the unit or something along those lines.

Keep trying different stores? Or maybe wait until our resident 2degrees forum member replies. Try sending him a private message
[Nexus 4 General] Post_Modern_Human:
My understanding is I need to deal with the 2degrees store where the phone was purchased, and to be clear was really good when I had to do my first exchange. I may try going into the 2degrees shop on K'Road as it's close to my work so I can pass by on lunch and see what they say. I was actually hoping to deal with LG directly to do an RMA so I can compare the new unit to my current one and see which one is better.
[Nexus 4 General] peedub:
---Nevermind
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey guys. Just a little heads up. The 16 and 8GB versions are available again on the US Play Store, with a shipping date of approx. 1-2 weeks. Now would be a good time to get one if you were looking to go that way. :laugh:

Everybody still enjoying their phones? :cowboy: I've just ordered one of the 'knock-off' bumpers off Trademe. It was $27, so a bit steep, but it looks pretty close to the real thing (from the pictures anyway). It should be arriving today so I'll let you know what it looks like and how it fits when I get it.
[Nexus 4 General] scottyn:
You only put down $70???? Does this normally work out for you? Others?

I wouldve thought customs would know which boxes contain nexus phones by now

:)
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I thought I was going to get stung with some duty to pay but the seller I bought it off on eBay put the value as only $100 and it made it through with no holdups...:p
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Have you got your bumper yet? I'm keen to get one if it's good.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I got it last week... I've been meaning to report back, but I've just been flat out at work and home.

It seems pretty good to me. One thing which which sort of annoys me is the fact it doesn't cover completely the top and bottom shiny chrome plastic. I'm not sure if the original does this, but this one certainly does not! Other than that, it looks very similar to the pictures I've seen of the original and feels sturdy as well. It fits snuggly to the device and I'm very happy with it. I've attached a few pic's. Don't be deceived by the color in the photo's... It's actually black with the gunmetal Grey plastic band, same as the original :)
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
My nexus 4 got stolen by an employee @ youshop. Got a refund by them though.

A week or so ago I brought another one (when they came in stock), sent through youshop for a second time, went fine thankfully.

Should be arriving in NZ today hopefully, so all going well I should have it tuesday. Can't wait.
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
These guys have a few qi chargers if anyone is looking.

http://www.cbay.co.nz/qi-wireless
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I got a charger off ebay for ~42USD

Not the cheapest, but it works and I'm sure wireless charging through qi will be something included in many phones/devices to come. ... I hope!
[Nexus 4 General] fluentcoroner:
Hey guys, fellow New Zealander here. I sent a Nexus 4 using VPN to some people I knew in the states who were flying over here and said they could bring it with them. Unfortunately it arrived the day after they left for NZ :mad:

now I need to look into shipping, have any of you shipped out of USA? if so, how much did it cost and how long did it take to arrive?
[Nexus 4 General] nonameden:
Hi guys, yesterday got two of them from US. My happiness has no limits =)

If some one need Im gonna sell one for 650 nzd, just pm me.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
He he. It's a great phone huh?
[Nexus 4 General] jibbzy:
Any one have problems with google taking the money out of your account?

I should have been charged by now I think (ordered on the 29th Jan) and still nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] nonameden:
for sure =)
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
I have the Nillkin white case which was nice to offset the black of the actual phone. the fitment was quite tight so it was difficult to take off. it was nice to contrast the black colour and it fit really well.

I also have a Spigen ultra thin case (reviewed by droid-life.com) which arrived a few days ago which I am really enjoying. It is so thin and its also matte and fits snugly but not as tight as the Nillkin case

These were all supplied from the USA. If anyone wants the white Nillkin case, I am happy to sell it for the purchase price (you just dont have to wait for the 20 day shipping time from eBay USA).

I am very keen to get a bumper case though, despite the super thin spigen case, It would be great to have a bumper case to show off the back glass panel with NEXUS all over it, especially since I have a best skins ever protector on the back side.

Hayden do you recommend the trademe bumper case replica??
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey mate. Yeah, I'd recommend the trademe bumper case replica. They've made a pretty good copy of the original!

I change up my cases regularly, but most of the time I'm using the phone without one at all... It's got the screen protectors on front and back so I'm not paranoid about scratching it...;)
[Nexus 4 General] jd340:
Harvey Norman special

Harvey Norman had them on special on Waitangi day @ $688 so got myself one, love it. Still not as sexy to look at as the Gnex tho.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
its just really slippery without any case/bumper lol
[Nexus 4 General] Chilling_Silence:
The money is *supposed* to come out of your account when they process the order (Right before shipping the phone). It did that for me on my first two "runs" of importing them for friends and family (There's a lot of people I know walking around with N4s right now), however the latest ones which got shipped last week, the money came outta my account immediately and the orders weren't shipped until approx a week later.

But yeah the *theory* is they won't take the money outta your account until the phone is ready to be shipped to you. So if you buy one on a 3-4 week backorder, expect a bit of delay for the money coming out.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Yeah I love the feel of the screen itself under my fingers (nice and low resistance to my finger) but the back is just too slippery.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I don't find it that slippery...I've never had any drops because it was too slippery... At least not yet anyway ;)
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
Guess I need to break my habit of fidgeting with my phone (spinning around using two fingers) which I developed during my year with my galaxy nexus haha
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I treat my devices with much care yet still I feel naked without a case on this bad boy. I'm so addicted to it, it's like an extension to my body. The situation is so bad that my girlfriend sometimes asks if the Nexus is more important than her.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
It looks like we all have our own little quirks when it comes to this phone :D

On another note, people on xda are reporting that the Wireless Charging Orb is available on the US PlayStore for $60. If anybody's going to get one, I'd be keen to go in as well... just let me know :)
[Nexus 4 General] cleu041:
Count me in
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
wonder if the charging orb is made by LG for the nexus, or by Google designers?

which would mean whether the next nexus could use it or not ... it would suck to shell out $60usd and then have the next nexus come out in 8-10 months time and need a new wireless charger (i mean it would still work if qi standard is used, but the orb is angled etc)
[Nexus 4 General] mattberrytr:
Already brought mine. Should be shipped in the next couple of days

---------- Post added at 08:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:34 AM ----------

Exactly what I did with my desire hd hehe
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
Did anyone else get a Google Play update today? I got one and now I can access movies, music and all that :D It worked on my N4, N10 and PC. I'm hoping it's not just a glitch, but I'll take it for now.
[Nexus 4 General] nonameden:
If u have used once US VPN to access play store it will be linked to our Google account. Same happened with me. All devices and PC now are showing us play store )
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
SWEET! I'm not complaining haha
[Nexus 4 General] nselect:
Ah nuts mine is linked to the Canadian Play Store. Is there a way to set it to a different location?
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I've used a US VPN before to access the PlayStore and it hasn't automatically updated my phone PlayStore app to the US version. I can however get it to show up if I create a new Google account using a US VPN and then use a US VPN to access it on my phone...not sure how you achieved a permanent fix, but please let us know :)

How's everyone finding the 4.2.2 update? My phone seems snappier and doesn't lag at all now. I came back from a week camping in the coromandel to find the update had dropped... Only problem was my phone wasn't picking it up. After further investigation I managed to find a fix... I had to clear data and then force close 'Google services framework' in the app settings menu... Then the update appeared first try. Also managed to keep root with the help of CWM. Can't wait for KLP in may! :D
[Nexus 4 General] eKulzz:
Cracked my outer glass on my Galaxy S3, instead of paying $250 to fix it (cheapest I can find on Trademe, don't want to attempt it myself) I'm keen on cutting my losses and getting a Nexus 4.

Would it be best to use YouShop or family members I have in the US to send it to? If I get the family members to call it a 'gift' will customs still charge me GST?
[Nexus 4 General] nonameden:
It looks like it happen only if u re ordered or downloaded something while using US vpn )
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
I did that...Managed to rent the Avengers movie in November last year...:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
4.2.2 is unexciting. Mostly just bug fixes.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Hey mate. It's six one, half a dozen the other. YouShop are mostly good and pretty cheap. You can determine the value of the item with them for their packaging slip, which is handy. They seem to be fairly quick as well. One member here had a phone stolen with them, which was ****! However, they refunded him fully. He then had something else shipped through them with no problems.

Your family will get to add a value to the packing form as well and I understand that even if it's labeled as a gift, if the value of the package and the postage breach the duty threshold, you will have to pay duty on it. There is a link to a customs duty calculator in the OP which might come in handy for you :)
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
True, but there are a few nice tweaks on the stock ROM... Like the quick toggle buttons finally becoming quick toggle buttons, with a long press (shame they didn't do it for mobile data though)!
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
Yeah that is nice.

Like all my phones, I rooted the Nexus and installed CyanogenMod within an hour of getting home with it so I kind of took it for granted that they were toggle buttons. Forgot what they were like on stock.

At least unlike other phones I've owned, Aosp based stuff doesn't have annoying bugs that never get fixed like camera, audio, or Bluetooth bugs to name but a few I've encountered on my HTC and Samsung devices over the years.

Sure I've had the Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus as well but this is the first Nexus where I've actually felt it was an amazing experience. All others were lacking that special x factor that makes a phone truly stand out from the crowd.

The Nexus 4 on the other hand is a work of art. It looks gorgeous, feels great in the hand, has good battery life, and the user experience is smooth as silk. Totally impressed and I don't think LG deserve their bad reputation anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] VoltageNZ:
Good to see some other kiwis on here. Got mine via the Play Store recently when they came into stock along with the bumper case. Thoroughly enjoying it and was a perfect upgrade from my GNex. Got 4.2.2 rather promptly the other day too although was frustrated by the 'Wifi only til 16 feb' crap (was at work feeling impatient haha).

Waiting for dbrand rear skin to turn up this week as finding myself constantly cleaning finger prints off the back glass haha.
[Nexus 4 General] rh2600:
4.2.2 OTA

Has anyone with a 2degrees N4 got 4.2.2 OTA? I've been waiting and trying the Google Services Framework trick, but no dice
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Just keep trying that workaround... People were reporting that it sometimes took more that one go :)
[Nexus 4 General] samohtxotom:
Yup I got mine a few days ago :) you aren't missing out on much so I'd just wait it out if I were you.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
I read somewhere that the system framework trick breaks Google sync once you update?
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Haven't had any problems with mine... All my email accounts are still syncing as normal and the play store is working the same as well... maybe I'm just lucky :D
[Nexus 4 General] jd340:
Got the update this morning.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.m0x:
There is no difference between a 2 degrees nexus and any other nexus by the way.
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Any body notice that the phone will spend a lot more time in 3g mode when on standby and only use the H mode when you actually use your data? I also think my signal strength has dropped significantly since the 4.2.2 update...
[Nexus 4 General] felix1234:
If you buy it in the US, I guess you will get a US power adaptor? What voltage is it, or how do you charge it in NZ?

If I have friends in the US, is it ok to buy Nexus 4 in the retail stores there?
[Nexus 4 General] timhl7:
Yup its designed to do that to save battery. Haven't flashed the 4.2.2 radio yet but I'll check signal when I do
[Nexus 4 General] GeoMil:
Its sweet, just buy a 'travel adapter' off TM or a whole new USB wall plug thing. Travel dapater is better because some cheap wall plugs have lower amperage and dont charge as quick.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
most electronics will have adapters which will accept different voltage inputs, 100-240v usually.

the n4 charger will be 1.2amps and the n7 charger is 2amps. most devices will regulate the input so stay safe, but usually a higher amperage will be ok.

usb ports will output 0.5amps unless you use a special kernel which will allow more amps to be pulled from a usb 2+ port
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
So it seems I spoke too soon about looking after my phone! I bloody dropped it from about 2 feet in the air onto the old lumpy concrete floor in my rugby changing room after my game on Friday night. :eek: The good news is that it didn't smash, the bad news is that now I have a couple of little war wounds on the top right corner of the phone. The plastic edging is pretty soft and apparent dents easily! My covers will hide the bumps so it's not the end of the world. Speaking of covers, I ordered one of the new bright orange SGP covers, so hopefully that will arrive next week! I was getting a bit bored of the plain black and white ones... And maybe now I might actually put it on the phone haha :D

On another note, anybody here tried the n4 on Vodafone's new 4g? I realize that the new update disabled the option to use it, but if you are on an older radio then I've heard it could still be possible... so long as Vodafone is using one of the frequencys that the n4 supports...
[Nexus 4 General] Post_Modern_Human:
Just wanted to post an update regarding my Nexus 4 and the backlight bleeding issue. I ended up going to the 2degrees shop where it was purchased but since it was past the two weeks that I got it I had to drop it off at a service center. I dropped it off at a place called FoneFix on a Saturday and it was ready for pick up on Tuesday. They replaced the screen (as expected), so a bonus was that I got a reset on the little scratched I had developed on the plastic edge on the front. Any way, issue has been resolved. They said my Nexus 4 was the first they had in, so I guess no one has smashed their screen yet.
[Nexus 4 General] felix1234:
Shouldn't work right? The N4 supports band 4, but Vodafone is using 1800MHz
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
The n4 could support band 4 LTE which has two frequencies. Vodafone will be using band 3 unfortunately
[Nexus 4 General] hadenkose:
Cheers for that. I didn't really hold out much hope that it would work - maybe it will work with 2degrees or Telecom when they come on line? Or will they be on band 3 as well? Not that it really matters in NZ as nobody offers enough data to make those speeds really worthwhile. If they could roll out more HSPA+ sites around the country that would be just fine.

On another note, has anybody here got a wireless charger yet? I'm looking at getting one of these when they come out shortly. I've put myself down for a pre-order, so I'm just waiting on a price and availability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VghOEZKCNHQ