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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Funny my lte hits 27mbps on sprint and the damn rollout is only at 25% of the towers complete. It averages about 22mbps but will hit 27 later at night.

Edit: look at the t-mo screen cap up the thread there it says right under the 1.6gb used that the data is throttled after 10gb. 10gb high-speed data means after 10gb its no longer high speed which means it's throttled and they throttle u to edge 2g speeds which is equivalent of sprints 3g

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
I also heard from other folks that tmobile prepaid does throttle but heck idk since I really dont trust any other carriers besides sprint. I have no issues with them just the lack of slow 3g around my home area but so far when I get to the corner of my house and at work I get 4g lte since they already started working on the towers here in miami.

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Dude you have to understand that we are only on 3% and its early. At the corner of my house and at work im getting an average of 12-15 mbps and a peak of 19mbps now for this early stage at 3% thats damn good I know for sure its only going to get better soon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
Where do you get these speeds? Also in my area I doubt it could ever reach these speeds because there is no cable internet and the fastest ISP is att with 1.5mb. Also don't trust the speedtest.net it shows fast speed but your real world speed is probably half that. Like when I go near a tower with 4g I get like 18down but that's not real world.

And T-Mobile confirmed there is a new data plan unlimited 4g no throttle. I don't have the service yet so I can't tell for sure but I have checked many times. And I doubt sprint 3g will ever be good it has been bad for so long. Tired of waiting with sprint. Need a nexus 4 and T-Mobile will do even of it is 10gbs which they swear its not.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
I get it in a few spots in town(bradenton FL) but not at my house yet I can get it solid at my friends house right off of i75 and SR 64. Will get it at home between now and march when its complete right now there's a total of 16 towers live in the 5counties that are in my rollout, sw Florida from bradenton to Naples well manatee county to Naples area most of the live towers are down the i75 corridor. Ericcson is the subcontractor handling our rollout, and they are just barely ahead of schedule it was supposed to be testing now and live towards the end of Nov but they've turned on a few towers already. I know its not roaming on lte cuz sprints roaming agreement for lte doesn't start until 50% of the rollout is complete nationwide

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
Look at the time I just went to the corner of my house and just ran a test and took the screenie.

Edit if your patient enough to wait a bit I say go for it but you you aint well you have your reasons to move on forward and leave sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
When NV is complete sprints network will be as good or better than vzw. From what I've seen already its just as good as vzw in the areas it's up. The main thing is anywhere sprint has 3g now they will have LTE which means they will have more LTE saturation than any other carrier in the US. Plus NV is a complete backhaul and upgrade to the 3g network as well for improved capacity as well as bandwidth so 3g will be consistent in speeds over 1.5mbps instead of slowing as towers get crowded

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
That's great news thats why im just being patient and enjoying my note 2 lol I see alot of good things coming ahead for sprint thats why im sticking with them but I can understand some folks frustration and such with the 3g service at the moment
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tgruendler:
That isn't 10GB in the screen cap, it is 10000GB or roughly 10TB. T-Mobile doesn't throttle anymore. Just saying.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
Evil and yellow what you have to understand is your one of the lucky few. Even when LTE is up it is going to get slammed because for the past year they have been selling late phones so once it up sprint is going to have to change the unlimited data. And sprint every quarter for years is losing Money so that does not make me feel good. Makes me think they can't wait to raise the price.

Sprint gave me 100 to stat today but honestly tired of them not getting phones first, slow data, and no more perks. I get the same treatment as if I just walked in the door. What T-Mobile told me today would be cheaper and I can buy a nexus 4 for 300 bucks. If I get even 5mbs down I'm more than happy because that has hardly even happened on sprint and that is when I'm next to a tower. Tired of the pipe dreams. If sprint has fast data it won't last unlimited.

At T-Mobile they told me today 4 lines 1000 min 2 lines 2gig 4g (parents) and 2 lines unlimited 4g no throttle for 160 a month two year agree meant and I bring my own phones so I get a credit each month since not buying phones. Sprint can't beat that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
I've rarely had slow 3g on sprint, at home its always over 1mbps 2mbps later at night. The only times its ever slower than 1mbps is when we get bad storms and a tower goes down and everyone is pushed onto the other tower. But I live in a sparsely populated area east of bradenton and basically share my main tower with about 50 or 60 houses. The only 2 carriers with coverage at my house are sprint and at&t. At&t constantly drops calls here, vzw only has 1 to no bars of 1x and T-Mobile doesnt have any service at all, you have to roam on at&t. Even when I'm in Tampa or Hollywood I still get between 700kbps and over 1mbps down, it maybe because I'm on a business account with a corporate prl tho

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TheAtheistOtaku:
of course NV will be a savior for sprint. but the problem is that it should already have a network thats able to compete. Sprint cant say come join us because we are better then prepaid and then get ****tier speeds then cricket. Also people still have a bad taste in their mouths over the wimax screw up. Honestly, they should of focused on getting their 3g up to snuff before ever considering rolling out 4g.

i for one will tell sprint to go screw themselfs if i dont see my city on the lte rollout list within the next 6 months or if i dont see significant increase in 3g performance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PoorCollegeGuy:
Where on earth are you looking? On the screen shot it says "1.6GB/unlimited" then below it says "Up to 9765.6GB full speed data" that's nine thousand, six hundred, sixty five point six gigabytes. As in 300 short of ten thousand gigabytes. Maybe you misplaced a comma or thought it was 9.7? Nowhere on my screen shot does it say over 10GB. If you're referring to the Verge article, it says you only get the throttled plans if you get the data plan with hotspot. No hotspot = no throttling.

No really, the number 10 isn't even on my screen shot. Where did you even see it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Tmobile rules

Sprint sucks.

This is xda.

Ok?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Wimax was clearwires ****up not sprints. Clearwire squandered all their money instead of properly investing it in their network. Sprints 3g is old and their profits have been in the red for years due to issues with towers and clearwire charging them $8 per 4g device access charges even in areas clear has no coverage. Upgrading towers isnt cheap, the only reason at&t and vzw can do it is because they pass the cost to the customer via overpriced plans and hidden fees. Sprint tried to keep the customers cost down which hindered their ability to build out since they were losing money instead of making it. Softbanks investment and multi billion dollar advance finally pushed sprint into the black so they can get their network up to par and competitive with vzw and at&t. Sprint will also be the only truly unlimited carrier with no hidden charges or throttling/data caps. As of right now they have no plans to cap the network because it costs them pennies on the dollar for data because they own all of their towers(well most of them) and vzw/at&t lease their towers from a 3rd party which costs them more to provide data.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
I have a business account but how do you get a corporate prl? Anyway your still talking about a small percentage. Very few places is sprint leading in service. In south Florida Miami you will see sprint sucks there. Yeah in broward it is better and Boca not Miami.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Idk how the hell I got a corporate prl I'm tied to my dads buisness account which has a ton of employees under one account and when i update my prl I get a different one than friends in regular accounts and it shows as a corporate prl on the prl lists. The company my dad works for insures sprint and their network under their commercial division so we get a nice discount and a bunch of perks like early upgrades, free or steeply discounted phones off contract and other crap like free accessories and ****

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
I don't think sprint is a bad company but ever since the nextel deal things went downhill. Sprint in my opinion is too far behind Verizon and att across the nation. Data can't be cheap for them here. I'm glad that I had 4g at least but honestly I have never known another carrier so I really can't imagine anything faster. If sprint got better phones and the plan was a little bit cheaper then I would be good. But for what I pay I should get better service in data.

But I can't really blame them my home internet is on par with there 4g and they let me use 40gb a month tethered. And I'm sure in my area I'm not the only one doing this
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
My mom is on vzw, and I've had both at&t and T-Mobile in the past as well as metropcs at one time, and sprint has always had the best prices and best customer service out of all of them. I've had atleast one line on sprint off and on for over 15yrs on my dads account, sprint was actually the first phone I got when I was 14. Other carriers are over priced and don't give a crap about anything but your $. Sprint however everytime I've had an issue they've gone above and beyond to correct it and done something for the hassle, usually a small credit to the account or a free accessory or something. And with sprint I've never had a rep that I wanted to slap the piss out of like vzw. Everytime I have to call them for my mom I want to choke the moron on the other end.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigbird5788:
Not trying to be rude, but my dad doesn't insure sprint. I don't get the perks you do and I don't get the special prl that you do. I imagine they have extra incentive to take extra good care of your contract because of the business your father does with them too.

I am the "normal" sprint contract holder. Fact is I don't even have wimax to fall back on and I am in doubt that lte will even come to my area. The fastest I have ever seen my phone go is 1.2Mbps.... fastest. Which leads me to what I posted on the sprint forums. It seems that some posting on this have not read the link. I am simply asking if there are any others in my situation (which I describe in detail from the link in the first post)

I am concerned that my fastest speed is 1/10 of the service that prepaid 3g would be in my area.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] celsius0010:
If your coverage sucks then leave.. We don't need pointless threads about how your coverage is bad.. Out of the hundreds of millions of people in the country many millions are bound to have bad coverage.. In So Cal WiMax offers more coverage than HSPA and possibly still more than VZW LTE.. And before you guys just start trash talking at least look up what you are saying.. WiMax WASN'T Sprint or Clear's mess up.. The FCC forced Sprint to attempt to bring hi speed wireless net to rural areas as a stipulation of the Nextel merger. They had until 2008 to deploy on 2500mhz or they would have lost ALL of the Spectrum. There was no option to wait for LTE to be ratified like VZW. Then on top of that Sprint was forced to keep the 2G only iDen network that bleeds millions of customers running nationwide 5 years past it's heyday.. Those factors alone should have crippled Sprint the fact that they are still here and rolling out NV at a nice pace means they are serious, which is probably why SoftBank saw them fit for investment..

But in reality Sprint is a Corp just like the rest so if you can afford VZW or get good coverage on T-Mo I would suggest you leave in a hurry.. Let's leave the Sprint bashing on BGR and on the blogs..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
What area are u in I can tell u if and when you'll get lte, I've never had wimax unless I visit my mom in Tampa and lte is already starting here. 1.2 mbps for cdma 3g is pretty fast the highest it can possibly go is 3.1mbps with single uninterupted connection(only one device connected to the tower) vzw only gets about 2mbps avg usually closer to 1, my moms vzw 3g will constantly buffer SD YouTube videos while my sprint 3g can stream HD with no buffering. Sprint plans to cover anywhere that currently has 3g with lte so if you have 3g coverage you can expect lte coverage at some point, even tho it may not be til the final stages of the rollout. NV makes a huge difference in 3g speeds and capacity anyways which will out sprints 3g avg 2.5mbps for the average user and closer to a full 3mbps for ppl in less congested areas

Edit: if you're in lake city Florida your rollout had already started with an estimated completion date of march 2013 just like mine and most of the 2nd phase, they are march-may for completion, lake city, Gainesville, ocala, St Augustine all fall under the Jacksonville rollout lake city is actually covered by Jacksonville and the panhandle/Tallahassee. The north west corner is under Tallahassee and the rest is under Jacksonville

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Also dont forget about gazillion spectrums sprint has or will have operating their network on.

Go away if its not working out for you. No one cares if the signal sucks in some places and it is good in some for you. This is not about sprint. Sprint is not reading your post about bad reception and going like omg we need to do something because that xda member has bad signal. It is wireless technology and all carriers have their good and bad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
Yeah 1.2 Mbps is sprint fast not other 3g. This why att calls all its 3g 4g no because sprint set the bar for 4g.

Also not every tower can achieve the same speed in some areas data is more expensive for them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigbird5788:
Wow. Imformitive and rude. You should read the op to see why I posted... I would like to know sources for all of this info you wrote. Every time I went to the sprint site the vision was vague and never said if I would get lte or not.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigbird5788:
Once again you didn't read the op...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigbird5788:
OK so I need to restate my purpose of this thread because no one is reading the op and are getting too defensive before they can answer the question I asked.

What I want to know is if there are any people who find that they are in a similar situation as I am. I am in a rural area but it is still a larger city surrounded by big city's. I am posting here to see if anyone wasn't expecting lte and actually got it. If you read the link you would see that I am seeking resolve by even talking to them. Sure my words are firm but that is because it is my hard earned money and other people that I care about investing. Please look past that and focus on the question.

All in all cm10b2 freaking rocks!

Happy flashing!

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
http://s4gru.com/

Your question has been answered. Every sprint market with 3g will be getting lte according to their planning. What answer were you expecting from a sprint message board related to your issue anyway? Like it has been said, switch providers. Or call them and I don't know.. Ask for service credit if you think you are paying for nothing?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigbird5788:
Once again my question is if you are in my same situation. Originally I was not asking for network info. I wasn't asking if I should leave I just want to know if anyone else is in my situation.... so far the only two have answered the question correct. Poorcollegeguy and evil concepts(even though it took a bit for evil to say that they have good service from the surrounding cities)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
Here is the truth guys I'm in good LTE right now getting 30mbs down and downloading a 150 mob ROM for my nexus took 3 mins. To me that's not that fast. Second and most important 3g is still crap. And this is what I assume best case enviroment
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
Well they just gave me a small reason to stay. Just called because our phones haven't gotten service back since Sandy, always roaming etc. I got to a rep within 30 seconds. She was very knowledgeable and pulled up my service area(with extended information etc), and immediately noticed a tower wasn't quite right. She escalated it to a field technician and we were off the phone in a few min. I've dealt with them before and am fully confident I'll get the callback 24-48 hr's from now with a fixed situation. And she said they're just finishing up work on a new LTE tower. I couldn't have asked for a better result in calling for coverage assistance. So after that phone call, no, I don't feel the way you do. I have before, but do not now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] im0rtalz:
I clearly see 9000+ GB left of full speed data in the screenshot, its GB there not MB
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PoorCollegeGuy:
People see what they want to see, I guess. But don't expect an answer. When I brought it up back on page 3 I was ignored. People don't like admitting that they're wrong, instead opting to just insult people and backup their words like it's their favorite football team.

No matter, I live in a major metropolitan area and Sprint wont have 4G until the end of next year...meanwhile rural towns with a population of 5000 are getting it. That's wrong, and bad business. I'm happy with my switch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
I think you have the answer to that too. Only one person cared enough to reply on sprint forums about it in about 5 days..

And to that guy who says 30Mbps is not fast enough. Whats wrong with 30Mbps? Keep is mind this is wireless signal you are getting. Don't compare to faster wired connections you may have seen...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lilotimz:
What else do you want to know? I've answered mostly everything I could. You switched and you're happy and I'm glad it's working out for you. I would've recommended many others to do the same thing if nothings coming their way in 6+ months.

Anyways, I live in a major metropolitan area with population that exceeds 2 million people and is the state capital of california. Network vision upgrades are already happening 60 miles away in the San Francisco bay area but we're not slated to have anything starting till next year but I'm not complaining. This is because MARKETS are being upgraded and cities have hundreds of towers that must be completely rewired and overhauled. Then you have BIG cities and small cities in each market and there are many factors in place. You need to acquire the contractors to do the work, have the new RUUs and cabinets delivered and ready for numerous towers so you don't have to go to each tower again and again, and you need the backhaul to be ready. These things are planned out way ahead and lacking any of them will delay things.

Furthermore, if you even look at the rural areas being upgraded, you would recognize many of them are along interstates or highways. Far easier to just have trucks running along highways working on easily accessible towers then slog through a city.

My sources come from www.s4gru.com and being a sponsor there with access to inside information on Sprint NV progress alongside discussions on sprints equipment,contractors, and deployment strategies. If you don't believe any of what I mentioned then so be it.

Sources :

Puerto Rico Progress

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1931-network-visionlte-puerto-ricovirgin-islands-market/

USCC spectrum acquisition

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...0-mhz-broader-in-the-city-of-broad-shoulders/

LTE reception stuff

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-308-rssi-vs-rsrp-a-brief-lte-signal-strength-primer/

How to Determine LTE signal strength

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2...to-determine-your-actual-lte-signal-strength/

What NV is

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/32-network-vision-explained/

Sprints community forums are a circle of sprint haters and complainers anyhow and everyone recognizes that. Hence why no one who knows anything will go there to even attempt to educate people. That's why you can't find anything about NV upgrades there.

Anyways to OP. Sorry if it came out as rude but sometimes being direct to the point is much better than just beating around the bush.

Anyways to answer your question. Usually NV deployments begin in around a point somewhere in a market then spreads out from that point. Lately, we've seen some contractors going all over areas regardless of market zones and working on every available tower that they can get their hands on. I'm not familiar with where Lake City so I can't provide you any information that I can quickly dig up but it is highly probably for you to start getting upgrades within the next 3 months. If you still don't get any information from www.s4gru.com on where you are within the next 3 months then I recommend you look into other options.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PoorCollegeGuy:
Umm the last question I asked was to the guy who said my screen shot said i would be throttled after 10GB...I haven't asked any other questions. So I'm not sure who you're talking to (you quoted me, so I assume me...but I didn't ask any questions). The person I was talking to I was telling them to not expect an answer to their comment because when you point out that people are wrong, they either flame you or ignore you because pride prevents them from going "oopsies, I messed up."

I know about all that stuff with NV and LTE...my problem was that there was no timetable or pattern to follow. Saying they'll get my city by the end of 2013 is akin to tossing a dart at a dartboard. By the end of 2013, I will have paid over $1300 in cell phone bills and likely several hundred more in phone upgrades. To put it frankly, I don't want to pay $1300 in phone bills and buy new phones that I can't use on Sprint's current network, although I wouldn't mind paying it on their new one. Solution: come back when it's the new one. That's pretty much all I've said in this thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
Oh I also noticed this that most lte are around the interstate as for me I live near the interstate and my job is across the other side of the interstate and I have great connection when im near the interstate now it all makes sense thanks for this info.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hrffd:
I live in public with 300kb/s. And WiFi at home. It's really not that big of a deal, there are more problems out there then your 1stworld problems. Take what you get, you're paying less and you have an amazing phone. We will see better futures with our network. Just be happy you don't have a BlackBerry.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayharper08:
There seems to be a pretty good discussion going on. Please don't make me close this thread. Keep it civil and polite. (Don't say I didn't warn you)

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