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[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
Just saw the price of the Optimus G in PCM. About 4100 hkd. Even cheaper than the Nexus 4. Odd. Why is LG Hong Kong setting such strange prices.
[Nexus 4 General] xipher1:
It's not an odd price, it's more expensive in euro countries that don't have the ability to buy devices from the play store. The reason is as follows: Google is subsidizing these devices, they are selling them at a loss, or with no profit in them at all, to get them into developers hands. LG doesn't want to lose money selling the phone, and want to make profit at retail, so they sell them for a profit to the retailer, who then add a margin before selling to you.

TL;DR: Google is paying for part of your phone if you buy it through the play store.
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
Just saw on Yahoo auctions HK that there is a seller selling the 16GB for HK$4.1k, so prices on the grey market are starting to drop a bit.
[Nexus 4 General] :
quite a bit of them are willing to sell for 3900... i'd still wait for the official release here.
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Im sure when no demand.. sure will drop for sure!
[Nexus 4 General] kamaliqwan:
now im in Hong Kong.. and still couldnt find any Nexus 4... :(

ill be here till sunday and hope will find 1...but with reasonable price...
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
Woodhouse just refunded my purchase ;(
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
I am afraid that's not going to happen. Sorry
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
need nexus 4 ...
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Latest news, the launch date of Nexus 4 in HK - December 11, 2012. Priced At HK$4398

Source: http://www.gsminsider.com/2012/12/lg-nexus-4-launch-date-in-hong-kong-set.html
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
That is miracle that Google only take 19 hours let my new order last night become shipped.

I just cancel the order I had Nov. 27 that let me work overnight and fighted with damn Google Play to press 2.5 hours on Proceed button.

So, do not need to wait 13th or 27th, just place a new order and you will have miracle as mine.
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
If I wait until after Christmas, I can probably get it for just 4000...

To wait or not to wait, that is the question
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
yeah me too! with no explanation!
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
o...woodhouse further delays the pre order...

from taitony's pic, the total price is $394, exchanged to HK$ its around $3200 which with subsidised from Google.

so, if the nexus 4 is $4398, um....i can accept it.
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Everybody, wait for the Experience day on December 8th!
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
i'm going, registered very early,I should get a seat, they will tell you if you have a seat or not.
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Dont forget to share with us here! looking forward in it!

Please capture some photos of the event as well!

WE WANT TO SEE!
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
Your signature is very annoying :(
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
Welcome our discussion group in Facebook

If you can read Chinese, please visit our discussion group dedicated for Nexus (former for Nexus 7 only).

Link here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Nexus.7.Chinese/
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Dont forget to promote this threat at the FB group as well in return...
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
pple goin to experience day take pictures plz :)
[Nexus 4 General] ansontyl96:
Already join, now waiting for my friend from usa to bring my nexus 4 to Hong Kong at January XD
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
Have my Nexus 4 this afternoon (LA Dec 7). It take three days after I re-order on Dec. 5. No blame on Google even screw up my 27th order. It is on the way to Hong Kong via USPS and I may pick up on Dec. 18 :thumbup::D
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Its ten day later... More and more people getting it.. =)
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
december 11 yeah!
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
Any news from the experience event?

Leaving UK to head back to HK tomorrow. Google UK screwed me over. I ordered just past 5pm on Dec 4th and my order didn't get despatched so I'm having to cancel it. But people who ordered on the 4th after 7pm had their nexus 4 delivered on the 6th.

And with my order from wood house canceled as well I might as well get from Wilson's with warranty.
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
Taiwanese G+ Community for Nexus products

In addition to Facebook, we are running a G+ community for Nexus products.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/118103827213288295212
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
Instead of promoting the pages... show us more on Nexus 4 from Hong Kong!
[Nexus 4 General] aro-aro:
Was yesterday in Sincere house in Mongkok. They were selling there the 8Gb for HK$ 3,680. The 16gb went there for 4,500 ...
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
anyone who went to experience event want to give us any updates?

any dates?
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
Crazy price compare with Google Play.
[Nexus 4 General] FC1032:
I've seen as low as 4288... But still to high!
[Nexus 4 General] fcng:
Buy online....

Dear All,

Not worth the mark up if one has the option of getting it on Google Play. If there is official release then the grey imports will be lower priced but how much lower?
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
if the shop imported from US google play, it costs around hk$3200 without shpping fee, so 42xx is reasonable for them.

if u buy one from uk google play, it costs around$3800.

what will u do if u get one with problem from us or uk?

even the price is 4398, i am going to buy official one
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
official cause u can get warranty!
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
I skipped the experience day, had to go to macau and china.

got a note 2, and waiting to get the nexus around feburary when they reduce the price.

they say the nexus 4 will be released mid december.
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
the official will be released on 18 dec
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
any confirmation?
[Nexus 4 General] shokwaav:
Can't wait for more news.
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
Few shops said they will have official stock on 18 of Dec
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
wilson comm. say's mid december, but no actual date.
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
If you would be so kind, which shop in particular? Did they actually have stock?
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
i think many shops do stock them, just go there and ask around, see which one is cheaper.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
I preordered with Wilson shop in MK.

they said would have stock about 14-15-16.

so hopefully end of this week! also get 5% rebate with standard chartered credit card too!
[Nexus 4 General] mousqy:
going to HK this weekend hope its not too pricey
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
$4398?

preorder needs deposit?
[Nexus 4 General] shokwaav:
Any news on price?
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
a little update for u guys

just pre oredered from Wilson.

$300 deposit.

14th is the early day for pick up.

and the other new is...can pre order white version too. cool!!

but black will arrive earlier.
[Nexus 4 General] e4eric:
Which store is it? Confirmed 14th pick-up?
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
wilson comm. shatin branch

14th is not confirmed, just as soon as they have stock on that day
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
Yup,

$300 deposit for me too.

I pre-ordered at this store:

九龍旺角西洋菜街61號地下

G/F., 61 Sai Yeung Choi Street, Mongkok, Kln.

電 話:	2395 3909

營業時間:	10:30am - 9:30pm

I got told earliest is 14th for pickup as well. although there were not 100% certain when stock would arrive, as per earlier post they said it should arrive 14/15/16th.

in receipt they said they would send SMS when I can pick up.

If any of you have a hong kong standard chartered credit card you can also get 5% credit rebate on your card for wilson's purchases up until the end of this month, so that can knock off another $219.9 HKD off the total price.
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
cool!!

what's the colour did u pre order??

i ordered the black.

white seems not suit for me.....
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
Official announcement from LG Hong Kong

http://www.lg.com/hk_en/press-releases/lg-and-google-announce-nexus-4

Price of HK$4398, which I presume is for the 16GB model.
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
I am a bit skeptical on the availability date of the white Nexus 4, considering that there no one has seen a white Nexus 4 yet. That said, I would be very interested in getting a white one only if it is white on both the front and the back.
[Nexus 4 General] pmugghc:
Many of you talk about Wilsons, is that the best chain store for Nexus 4? Are they selling N4 with HK warranty or are they grey imports ? Will e.g. Fortress and Broadway also start now around 14-16th ?

Many thanks, I'm coming there on the 15th-19th, hope to pick up a Nexus 4 and Xperia V.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
Wilson's is one of the main official dealers in Hong Kong. I'm sure fortress and broadway will stock the N4 as well. Although I have lost my confidence with broadway as they have also been selling iPhone 5 at $7588. $2000 over the RRP like the grey import dealers in sin tat in MK. as an authorised apple reseller they shouldn't be allowed to do that.

I have had good customer service from Wilson's.

where are you coming from? if you are not concerned about warranty then the grey imports are going to drop in price soon since the official HK stock is cheaper than the asking price of grey imports.
[Nexus 4 General] pmugghc:
Thanks, I'm coming from Thailand where I live at the moment, used to live in Hong Kong for 13 years, love it! It is my understanding LG doesn't offer any world-wide warrant, but HK is closer to Thailand than the US.
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
LG Singapore have said they will honour any orders from Google Play abroad.
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
LG Nexus 4 officially announced in HK - $4398... anyone?

http://www.gsminsider.com/2012/12/lg-nexus-4-officially-announced-in-hong.html
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
Dude, I posted the official press release earlier today already.
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
released today! but no stock.. maybe tmr
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
today is not the official release date, try the next few days.

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wilson is the most reliable chain store in hong kong, even samsung authorized them to manage their official samsung official show room retail store.
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
available in coming days or next week..
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
I also pre-ordered from Wilson in Mong Kok today, gave a $300 deposit. Earliest is 14th with deliveries going all the way to the 18th. Fingers crossed. It's really expensive but given that the phone does appear to have screen defects with dead pixels and yellowed out displays, buying official with warranty may not be a bad thing.

And to whoever said that Sincere House has stock of Nexus 4, you must be living in an alternate universe. I went to several smoke-filled shops and the answer is that they haven't had supplies for weeks. Thank you for sending me to that cesspool of second-hand cigarette smoke. Next time please be sure that they actually have stock :(
[Nexus 4 General] mousqy:
how did you guys preorder?online?

i'll be in HKG this weekend, appreciate if someone can share this Wilson shop address and phone number.
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
LG HK have confirmed they will only offer warranty for Nexus 4's bought in Hong Kong from authorised dealers.
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
you have to be in person to pre-order at wilsons.

they have shops all over hong kong, mong kok having 4 street shops and a service center/show room/training center.
[Nexus 4 General] aro-aro:
It is full of little shops. I remember one shop near the main entrance on Argyle street: first shop on the left they had the 16Gb on stock.

Other one is on ground floor at the escalator. I think those shops just have a few on stock though.

I was there last Saturday and had the Nexus 4 in my hands in several shops .... so I am sorry you could not find them through the black smoke ;)
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
Can you confirm Wilson will offer a wireless charge pad for each order ?
[Nexus 4 General] yangkwong:
Got one unit (16GB) from USA...........luckly:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
if its available they will stock it, all you need is money.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
$ $ $ $ $ $ $

lol
[Nexus 4 General] andrew.kw.w:
Any rumors on whether one2free might have the Nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] RA017:
Sorry LG/Google, you've totally missed the point!!!!

US$560 for a 3G phone with non-removable battery & SD card? Are you trying to be Apple?

Not to mention the huge price gap between the US and Asia version despite the same hardware. I'm never an Apple fanboy but maybe this time I'll just try to make a point to Google.
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
No SD card and non-removable battery... but Android 4.2 stock google rom... but quad-core s4 pro... but 2gb of ram..... but patented crystal design....

how about get original galaxy note with sd card and removable battery...
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
Mate, its note a huge price gap between Asia and USA, its the massive price gap between what Google are selling it for and what LG are selling it for. Its happening in other countries as well, not just HK.
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
As a phone for the mass market, I think the N4 is aggressively priced. Fortress and Broadway are selling Sony, Samsung, and HTC flagships for $5,200+

This N4 is $4.3k HK, a price usually reserved for phone models 1-2 seasons out of date. Now you are getting the latest and greatest for the price of an older phone. A bargain by any stretch of the imagination.

HK Apple pricing for iPhone 5 is no longer cheapest in the world, as it was for the 4 and 4S. Just like the N4, iPhone 5 is more expensive in HK than compared to the US.

Apple woke up and realized that spending power in HK is quite high. If you really wanted the cheapest global pricing, I'd suggest you take a trip to South America. Don't drink the water though, or you may not come back.
[Nexus 4 General] ohyeahar:
4398 HKD is indeed a great price for the N4 relative to other Android flagships.

But it's a bit hard to justify when you know it's sold for 349 USD by Google. With tax and shipping (within the US) it's still only about 388 USD (or about 3000 HKD)

Even though I'm in HK, I decided to buy from Google and then ship it via Borderlinx. Only caveat is I have to wait until Google stocks up the N4 again. But I save over 1000 HKD over the HK retail price. I may have to wait a month or two, but I think the savings is worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
The thing is covered in glass on both sides though, just like the iPhone 4. What if you drop it and either the front or the back cracks? Replacing it can't be cheap.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
that wouldn't be covered under warranty anyway so they would have to pay to get it replaced either way.
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
ok, save 1000 and wait for one to two months for shipping from usa.

so what will u do if the phone has some problem eg. speaker or others problem?

send back to usa for replacement and wait for the other one month??
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
anyone bought it yet from wilsons?
[Nexus 4 General] puru96anand:
Could anybody tell me where I would find the N4 at Hong Kong Central area, perhaps shops that have stock... Will Wilsons' have the stock for sure on the 14th ??
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
My suggestion, don't drop it.:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] jun_ng_1208:
I don't see any units in Wilson outlet at Argyle St, Mongkok :(

Sent from my JBeaned Sensation infused with CMX goodness ♥
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
it's not out yet, try 16-18th.

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I just got off the phone speaking to wilson a few minutes ago, they say stock will arrive between 14-18th, preorder is HKD300 deposit, but have not confirm when they can officially sell them.
[Nexus 4 General] puru96anand:
Any place in HK Central or Kowloon where it is in stock ??
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
just look for a shop that sells grey import if you want stock, if you are after official hk stock, they are not available yet.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
Dude you literally replied with his message quoted saying stock 14th-18th. today is the 13th. meaning there is no stock right now.

Obviously hoping they will get stock tomorrow, but not getting my hopes up. Already been seriously screwed over and majorly let down by the UK google play store twice!
[Nexus 4 General] puru96anand:
Obviously even I meant from tomorrow man, I was just asking are there any places in particular that have confirmed presence of stock from 14th ?? :p
[Nexus 4 General] bwin999:
I've been screwed by US play store three times!
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
Wilson said earliest is 14th - let's see if anyone is lucky enough to get it!

But realistically I have my expectations for next Monday or Tuesday
[Nexus 4 General] ohyeahar:
That's like asking "so what will you do if you leave the house tomorrow and get hit by a bus?"

Things happen in life that we can't control. Everything we do is a risk. All we can do is manage the risk. So just like how I'm willing to risk walking out of my home everyday to go to work, I'm willing to bet 28% savings off the HK MSRP that I won't get a defective N4 unit.

And if I do get a defective unit, I'll just claim warranty. If the warranty policy is consistent with the Nexus 7 (which I also purchased from the US), I'll be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
No international warranty for N4, LG have already confirmed that.

Warranty for Nexus devices is done by the manufacturers. N10 also doesn't have international warranty. N7 does, because it's Asus and they generally provide international warranties for a lot of their products, including N7.
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
if i bought one from usa, and the phone has problem and have to claim the warranty, how?

send it back and wait ?
[Nexus 4 General] browngeek:
Yes, or get it fixed in HK and pay for fixing it either through LG or a third party.
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
I don't have actual data, but the risk of dropping your phone is probably higher than getting hit by a car.
[Nexus 4 General] jun_ng_1208:
The availability date for N4 from Wilson is delayed to 19/12 :( just got that info from an outlet in Mongkok...even if the stock is available on that day, priority will be given to those who pre-ordered first.

Sent from my JBeaned Sensation infused with CMX goodness ♥
[Nexus 4 General] ohyeahar:
“Getting a defective unit” does not mean “dropping your phone”. That’s accidental damage and won’t be covered by warranty anyway.

So if I get a defective unit, I won’t be able to claim warranty here in HK bc I brought from US Play Store. No biggie. I’ll have it sent back to the US. Even if I have to pay for shipping, it’s still going to be significantly less than paying MSRP in HK.

Like I said, this is a risk I’m willing to take. Considering there’s no mass complaints about defective units, I’m confident in taking this risk.

I understand why people would pay MSRP in HK. I’m just saying I find it hard to resist the significantly lower price that Google offers the device for.
[Nexus 4 General] superdx:
You must be very happy then - why are you posting in this thread? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
that sucks.....

getting impatient for this N4
[Nexus 4 General] trailblazerz11:
My friend is bringing my Nexus 4 from the states finally after failed to buy 1st round and wait 2-3 weeks shipping on 2nd round orders. Same time it is released in Hong Kong not.... but at least I am saving quite a bit of money. Gonna sell my Galaxy Nexus too hopefully for ~$2000+ HKD so very happy money-wise despite the wait.

On another note, anyone know where I might find Official bumpers in Hong Kong? Or I'd go for fake or generic branded bumpers to at this point
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
The bumpers are sold out even in the States.
[Nexus 4 General] taitony:
I think pirate bumper will show out soon in Shenzhen. :o
[Nexus 4 General] nat510:
Same in shatin store
[Nexus 4 General] fcng:
WIn Win situation

I'm in the same boat as trailblazer. I'm getting my N4 from overseas instead of locally. I've posted in this tread about buying from Canada since I'll be visiting in February. The money saved is a quite a sum HK$1,000.00 (CAN$466.22 converted as of today HK$3,322). I'll just test it out in Canada when I visit and if anything is wrong I'll just get it replaced. I understand the peace of mind to buy official "Hong Kong Released Version" as it is the culture for 95% of HK people (me included) to buy this version. But the tides are changing and Google is allowing us to save money with buying on Google Play. It might not be available on Hong Kong's Google Play store yet but hopefully in the future we can purchase from Google Play Store (HK version) and save money with local warranty. :fingers-crossed: In the meantime, buy locally for piece of mind and overseas to save money. Enjoy your N4 when it is available. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
Anyone got hk version yet?
[Nexus 4 General] kaheimatthew:
No sms for picking up the phone....

BTW, ordered one more 16gb from USA.
[Nexus 4 General] FC1032:
How?

I'm from Australia and I can access Australian play store anymore :(

I think the price is absurd! The ones from us and aus are alright, but the extra $ here is too much
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
Either he has a friend who live in the States, or he's using a proxy mail service to deliver his order back to Hong Kong. 4chan has a complete guide on how to use proxy mail services in Japan, so I wouldn't be surprised if there're similar services in US.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
hmm looks like the nexus 4 is all out of stock again on the USA and UK play stores.... lets hope they have stock for us here in Hong Kong.
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
It takes a lot of time to prepare custom papers, shipment details, etc. etc. So if Wilson says that Nexus 4 is going to be available in Hong Kong in December, the whole planning thing would have started at least a month ago. AKA the shipment is already on its way from mainland China to Hong Kong, probably just delayed because of more paper work.

What you should be worried about instead is how long it will take for further stocks to become available once the initial batch is sold out. Google is prioritising regions with Google Play Stores, so Hong Kong is **** out of luck if the Nexus 4 doesn't go back into stock in the US and UK first.
[Nexus 4 General] electric0ant:
Well the devices sold online at the play store is stocked by google, and basically has pretty much never had much stock (as google admitted they didn't expect such a high demand, and LG says google didn't order enough)

BUT stock in T-Mobile shops in USA and the O2 and Carphonewarehouse shops in the UK seem to be fine.

But it might be because they are selling at RRP so everyone wants to buy from google for cheaper so those shops have stock.

Obviously these shops will also order their stock from LG, so it seems that there isn't a shortage on stock from LG directly (at least initially), but rather that google themselves didn't order enough from LG.

I hope that this is still the case so we still get stock here in Hong Kong soon, instead of the stock going to google play.
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
no matter what, hong kong retailer will get stock, stock will get allocated for different regions, and china/hong kong will get a large amount due to demand and we are the largest market for mobile phone.
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
That makes sense. I hope you are right.

That's not true. While China has the biggest population in the world, most people are still too poor to afford flagship smart phones. Just look at the iPhone 5 sales figure in China, US and EU.
[Nexus 4 General] kms108:
thats because most people from china buy their iphone in hong kong, they don't trust the shops that sell them in china, majority of the iphone sales in hong kong are from people from china, whether its the official stock or grey import.

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nexus 4 should be available tmr.