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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] elesbb:
Your case is pointless because if you read the second post you will notice it says our T-Mobile device uses MSM8960a <-- that 'a' makes all the difference. Its the exact same chip as the MSM8960 MINUS the LTE stuffs. So yeah you are 'pwned' not i. Maybe if you were to actually read instead of thinking you know everything and thinking that the internet doesnt lie to you then maybe you would know this information. And yes everyone can have their opinion. Im just here to prove them wrong with solid concrete facts. I cant believe you are willing to sit there and argue when T-Mobile themselves clearly state that the Galaxy S3 SGH-T999 will not support LTE. If LTE were possible on our devices, why then can we not use it on ATT LTE if everyone is saying that the chip supports it and that the chip is the same in all devices?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ASharpEdge:
Wow, I guess you are right. You have proven yourself with solid concrete facts. :confused:

.....I still am confused as to why my phone shows that I have a MSM8960 without the "a". Strange.......

I wonder if my phone actually had this LTE feature and if I was smart enough and/or had the right knowledge if I could "unlock" the LTE feature using software? hmmm.......................

Nah, Qualcomm would not do that. It is much more cost effective to build 10 different types of the same phone each with different hardware configurations. :rolleyes:

God bless all and have a great day!!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] elesbb:
Just because it doesnt say that in your 'settings' or whatever doesnt mean thats what you are running. I like how you are willing to argue with samsung and T-Mobile as to what THEY put in their device. Maybe the 'a' doesnt show up because its not programmed to. Im sure if you took it apart and looked at the chip itself that it might have the 'a'.

Despite that, the point is SGH-T999 will never have LTE support. So just accept it and move on.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] elesbb:
Hope we can finally put this to rest now.

Well that was a fail.. so HERE is the full size picture.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] tengtengvn:
Really! :confused:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Crisisx1:
Just close this annoying thread. People arguing over nothing
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Don_Perrignon:
I'll tell you what guys... If our phones are the same, some here should have an unlocked phone. Flash a Verizon radio and pick up their LTE since T-Mobile will be piggybacking off their towers.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dmarco:
That is 100% accurate!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] pltctytc:
If you are one of those T-Mobile users waiting to get hold of Samsung's newest flagship smartphone, the Galaxy S3, it is going to spoil your party as the handset will not be compatible with T-Mobile's upcoming LTE network, according to a latest report.

Samsung Galaxy S3 On T-Mobile Won't Be Compatible With Its Upcoming LTE Network [REPORT]

Technology website CNET came up with a report Monday, in which it claimed that a T-Mobile spokesperson confirmed to it that though all U.S.-bound models of the Galaxy S3 feature the same LTE radio, the T-Mobile variant will miss out on the carrier's forthcoming LTE network.

The Samsung Galaxy SIII won't run on T-Mobile's LTE network in the future, but we will continue to operate our HSPA+ 42 network when we launch LTE in 2013, the anonymous T-Mobile spokesperson confirmed to CNET in an e-mail.

The device is the same across carriers, but [the phones] are optimized to work on each carrier's specific network.

According to CNET, it's T-Mobile's AWS spectrum, which has to be blamed for this fault as AT&T and Verizon use bands in the 700MHz spectrum for their LTE, something that T-Mobile won't do.

The report, however, did mention that while LTE promises superior speeds, T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 should not be underestimated by potential buyers, with independent tester RootMetrics claiming it to be faster than Sprint's 4G WiMax.a

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I'll tell you what guys... If our phones are the same, some here should have an unlocked phone. Flash a Verizon radio and pick up their LTE since T-Mobile will be piggybacking off their towers.

whaaaat? tmo is gsm verizon is cdma....no piggybacking no matter how flashed

tmo is the oddball in the cellular world. thats why the phones are made specially for their frequencies. no other phones are compatible from other carriers
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] redhooka:
http://m.cnet.com/news/t-mobiles-pricier-samsung-galaxy-s3-will-not-get-lte/57460125
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Teo032:
Guys guys, hey guys, a lot of us are still waiting for 42+ connectivity, what makes you guys think lte will reach you guys by the end if 2013?

I mean, they're still enabling att 3g bands for T-Mobile... that was last year's info.. still nothing in my giant metropolis.

Just saying...
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Don_Perrignon:
Yes, thanks, I know that Verizon is CDMA. But, the fact is that T-Mobile and Verizon are sharing some LTE towers, LTE IS a GSM technology, and both T-Mobile and Verizon are on 1700/2100 LTE frequencies, since you know, they're sharing.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] AB33:
I am just curious as to why this is running in my Android System Settings when I check the Battery use: com.test.LTETestmodeSetting

Sent from TMO GS3 via TapaTalk
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] oreice:
i am not so sure, i want LTE or better yet need it, i am already gettign 30mbps where i live(illinois), just the upload speeds are slow, which i dont care much for..4g just fine
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] penguin5897:
I just got of the phone with T-mobile and they claim that this phone WILL support LTE via a software upgrade. Can anyone verify? I just bought two of these abut a week before Christmas.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] horr1blek1tten:
I don't think so because T-Mobile Is releasing a special s3 with lte
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] MegaMan X:
for confirmation, see this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2090216
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] shmogt:
Who cares lte isn't that spectacular. You wait like 1 second more on regular cell Internet.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
First don't flame my comment. Just got off the phone with T-Mobile and they confirmed that yes the Galaxy S3 received a software update that now shows LTE. so I asked if that means that LTE will be compatible with this S3 and the answer was short and simple on all 3 different times I called.

They said any device that recieves an update unveiling the LTE/GSM/WCDMA on their network options will be able to connect with their LTE network.

So I asked again. Will my device the T999 Galaxy S3 be able to connect with LTE.

Again they said yes it will. So I asked them to double check with a supervisor.

The supervisor said to me, yes LTE will be supported on the GS3 T999 as soon as it is available in your area.

They told me that the LTE radio has always been inside the T999 just hidden until it was decided that they would confirm that this device was going to be allowed to connect. When they finally gave it a thumbs up they said that they pushed the update that most of us have now.

So as of now I have this update and I can see that it shows LTE.

Please don't flame my post this is my personal phone calls with tmobile.

You can call and ask the same questions I did. Again make sure to let them know if you updated like me and you see the LTE now available in the options.

So for me, I believe that when lte rolls out in my area, I will be able to use it.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
Here is a screen shot that I just took.

View attachment 1811877
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
Yes UVDLJC is my Baseband. For those who don't know BB == Radio.

I'm hopping that it does come out. I average about 12mbps and I wouldn't mind getting faster speeds. More is always better for ME.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] reds28heem:
I dont honestly know what to believe Its good points and research going both ways. But I'm leaning more towards that we dont have the lte.capabilities in our current tmobile gs3. Because if that was.so why would they announce another T-Mobile gs3 with LTE cleary being.the selling point. Doesnt make sense to me if our phone are already capable. Unless its some type of marketing gimmick to relaunch the s3 for tmobile having people think its a new model and its.really.not.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
That is a very good point. Look at what I said. I call and they tell me that the current model will support lte however they advertise a new version coming out.

Its very confusing.

If someone here lives in Las Vegas please update your radio and see if you can connect to LTE.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] D12005:
Mine seems to be the opposite LJA showed LTE and LJC removed it

And Im in KC which is also one of the LTE launch markets
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
Wow how strange. Is yours an official release?

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Here is the one I used.

http://d-h.st/iwJ

Make sure you do a backup first.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] D12005:
Im stock, upgraded to LJC on March 8th in KC MO
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] reds28heem:
Yes it is very confusing. And a clear honest response from T-Mobile or Samsung about what exactly the current galaxy s3 for T-Mobile is capable of would be glad appreciate. Why would they say its not capable and then all of sudden it is capable after a software update but release a whole gs3 as being LTE capable. What if people was that hungry for LTE, that they went out and brought the new gs3 just for LTE and to find out the current one already has it. I think Samsung or T-Mobile might be looking at some lawn suits coming. I mean its other upgrades to be offered in the new gs3 for T-Mobile but I believe LTE is the main selling point. It might even be call galaxy s3 LTE lol.

Edit: Question is 4g and LTE the same or different. Me and bro was having this debate... Cause I see advertising on networks saying 4G LTE meaning as one.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
Don't known if you guys remember , but back when the vibrant came out ( sgs1) they released an sgs4g and claimed the same thing that the vibrant would get 4g. Turns out they released the galaxy 4g and the vibrant got kicked to the curve. Sure it got a boost in some 3g speeds but every went oitband bought the 4g version instead. I personally don't care about lte. Im around open WiFi both at work and at home. I use less than a gig from my 2gb data plan. Son for me I'm not buying the lte version or the sgs4. But I do agree that "if" our version had late capabilities why they would just release a new model. Same scenario as I previously mentioned. Our us variants get completely screwy. If Samsung wants to completely obliterate apple they have to cone to a unison with how they release their phones. Tmobile has too many phones with the name "Samsung galaxy". Galaxy relay, relay 4g, the blaze 4g which is some mutation. I mean wtf. Anyways, aside from my mini rant , I don't think our will get an update to get lte back. It would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. But i guess they never promised it had late capabilities from the start so who knows.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Scath:
Everyone, I myself called tmobile and can confirm his story. I will call again and record it if I need to. Stop flaming everyone this is confirmed. What do you need a message from the CEO?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
Well since we both called and they told us the same stories, its safe to say that our LTE better work or I want free service until I get my upgrade lol.

I can back up your story so for me this riddle is solved for now.

All I can say peops is call and confirm on your own. Then post whether or not they told u what they told us.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
Okay guys who are calling. Have you ever worked for a telecom company? Or as a CSR for a wireless company. I worked forntmobile for 2 years. You kind of are supposed to say what makes them happy or gets them off the phone. This was years ago mind you . most reps don't know what they are talking about nor their supervisors. Most aren't given the full story until a release of a product and have little time to train on it. I'm taking these convos with a grain of salt. The reps also told many people they would get said updates to their android phones and those never came so ......yeah
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
Very understandable and especially from an ex Rep. I started a call in thread here in the general section to see if all the reps we call give out the same info. If they dont I still want it posted. Its so we all have an idea of the percentage of yes to no's.

Also we can have to fire power incase they make believe they didn't say any of this lol.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
Ha. I agree. I mean I could be wrong and maybe they're actually telling the truth. I've had different reps as a customer tell me tons of different things in one day over one topic. Just recently I've been dealing with having them sent my wife something else to replace her mt4g(yeah I know its two years old). She has had countless replacements. I used to know that if they replaced your device three or more times in a 90 day period they'd offer you an alternate exchange of a different phone similar to your current one or like it. This time I was told that was a myth are no longer doing that. So I guess well see ya know ;)
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] neoslink1:
I would bet we get LTE. What with these phone calls and the mass production factor, it wouldn't make sense that we wouldn't. I mean, samsung makes devices to sell to carriers. The ATT variant is capable of both hspa+ and LTE. I wouldn't see a mass production line modifying radios just because some carrier doesn't have LTE. They're going to get the same cookie cutter device as the rest. Calls+MP+LTE setting in the settings app... Seems obvious to me. The only thing I can't understand is the advertised s3 made especially with LTE. Seems like a slip up somewhere in the line of communication to me.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] D12005:
I was under the impression our phone did not have the LTE hardware hense the new model. It would certainly be nice but im not holding my breath. I would like to think they knew ahead of time and software locked like the note 2 since every other sgs3 has lte but then this new model makes no sence. Imo they are just reps reading from some book and have no idea what they are really talking about
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] md1008:
This new lte model could very well be the same phone only the package as well as the battery case may add LTE. Either way I can get up to 20/mb down in my immediate area so I am happy either way
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mgbotoe:
I do not see any reason for lte frankly until the day EVERY phone has it and its force on us.

I use wifi all the time, my phone download things at lightening speed...with lte I do not see a plus only negative which will be more battery drainage.

So....heh
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
I completely agree. Lte is over hyped (in my opinion. I mean how many states actually have fill lte coverage?? Its a business thing. A way for customers to switch from a service to another and make money. Once late is everywhere I think maybe more people might jump on it. Like the 4k TVs that are being announced. Do we really "need" that technology to sit on our asses? No. But people believe the only way is up or faster or HD. Its like how the sgs4 is now 5" . too big. Keep a phone a phone not a phablet. I'm not going to carry that thing around. I also have WiFi everywhere I go. I have 4 data lines on my account that are on the 2gb data plan. Never once have we been throttled . come close a couple times but always under. We all work or live near WiFi. But it is user defined. While my phone usage seems minimal others stream actually use their data and in guess need lte.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] cwalker0906:
Agree on everything except the g4 does have a 5 in screen but the phone as a whole is actually smaller so kudos to Samsung for that
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] asatnik11:
What are you guys smoking? The SGH-T999 will NEVER have LTE capabilities. I don't care what some customer service rep says or if you see the letters 'LTE' in a setting on your phone. The phone doesn't have the required hardware. Period. End of discussion.

If it did have the hardware then the FCC would have it publicly documented and it would be confirmed already by someone on xda. In fact, if you search for 'FCC sgh-t999' on Google you will find a document that shows all of the wireless radios and frequencies with LTE absent.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] saranhai:
^this guy has a point...wouldn't make much sense that Samsung would make a special board just for the T-Mobile Galaxy S III
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] RnRexpress3423:
While I agree it doesn't make much sense at all, I guess we will all see soon enough about this whole LTE situation. Personally if I knew there would of been an LTE enabled S3, I would of waited for it.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] uoY_redruM:
^ this
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mojorisin7178:
I am not 100% sure about this but I do know that the reason that the US sgs3 got a dual core with 2 gig ram because they were having problems with figuring out the quad core with LTE radio at the time. So the international sgs3 got a quad core with 1 gig and a gsm radio because there was no need for lte I guess. I know they have since figured that out because the note 2 has quad core 2 gigs and lte. So if my info is correct and I cant remember exactly where but I know it was on xda that I read it. Then the tmobile sgs3 does have LTE capable radio. A simple google search will say no but if you look further you will find out yes. Again that is my Take on it. Maybe I am wrong.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
I honestly believe it will work. Regardless of what the FCC has it listed at. All samsung has to tell them is hey the LTE is disabled as to TMobile's request hence don't put it on the specs. I might be wrong but hey everyone here cant post any facts don't care what I or anyone else may think we know because until the day that they release it officially we wont know crap.

That being said I still hope it works. If not all those who said it wouldn't would be like yeah I told u so son lol. J/K don't flame for fame please.

:):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] SeaFractor:
I've been doing some research.

What's possible is that the original T999 wasn't originally tested by the FCC for the LTE bands, so it's always been advertised as an HSPA+ phone. After all, what would be the point of advertising as an LTE capable model when no T-Mobile LTE service was available?

It would point out a lack that T-Mobile was advertising as not important, since their 4G network was fastest compared to most 5x5 LTE deployments (5Mhz bands). 10X10 is really only going to be available at most in 25 markets and that's if the MetroPCS merger succeeds as they've tied up a number of the bands necessary for the 10x10.

That said, you'll find a lack of teardowns that actually are the US T-Mobile T999 phone, the clue is that all the existing ones keep pointing out the Exynos CPU and we've got the Qualcomm.

In addition, it's probably easier to submit a new model for FCC compliance with an addendum to upgrade existing phones by their firmware, rather than to resubmit the original phone. To prevent one from accessing the LTE bands, it's possible that it's keyed to the microSIM.

Once new service for LTE is available for a given market, they can do a careful microSIM replacement program for their active customers and then allow the use of the existing but disabled LTE modem.

So it's possible, but until someone activates and existing S3 in one of the first three LTE market's later this month (or whenever the S3 T999L model passes FCC certification) it's all speculation.

But it's certainly possible.

Someone willing to sacrifice an existing T-Mobile S3 to the teardown chop shop?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] asatnik11:
You've got a good point.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
If the phone was LTE capable, they would have to tell the FCC that it was. They would get levied heavy fines if they failed to disclose that information when the FCC was working on approval.

I've done a lot of reading on this and the T999 does not have an LTE modem. The MSM8960 uses an external modem for LTE connectivity, probably to get around the compatibility problems that Samsung was having. Tear downs show an LTE band 12/17 amplifier but no LTE modem. As was said, there is no hardware to support LTE on our phones.

Also, those of you saying that you don't need LTE - you are forgetting that voice will soon go over LTE once the VoLTE solution is finalized. This will give significant advantages for capacity and also allow for the entire network to go LTE in a few years.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
I cannot let me baby go lol.

Maybe my wife hahahaha....ok maybe not
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] SeaFractor:
I know you are joking, but I'd never trade my wife out for anything. Unlike the hardware/software in a phone, the longer we are married (20+ years) the next exciting upgrade she brings. Since this is a family friendly site, we'll leave it at that.

Let's just say that Key Lime Pie is like 1940's compared to her upgrades :D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] monkeypaws:
In a few years...lol. By then well def have more than enough capable lte phones.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] roketteere:
lol so true.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Paso876:
I found this on qualcomm's website, not sure if it's the opposite of what you're saying, I honestly dunno enough about processors, but to me it's saying the MSM8960 DOES have an on board modem. See below.....

Qualcomm Incorporated (NASDAQ: QCOM) today announced its next mobile processor architecture for the Snapdragon family. The new processor micro-architecture, code-named Krait, in the next-generation Snapdragon will redefine performance for the industry, offering speeds of up to 2.5GHz per core and delivering 150 percent higher overall performance, as well as 65 percent lower power than currently available ARM-based CPU cores. <b>These chipsets will be available in single-, dual- and quad-core versions and include a new Adreno® GPU series with up to four 3D cores, and integrated multi-mode LTE modem.</b> The latest family of Snapdragon chipsets will include the single-core MSM8930™, the dual-core MSM8960™ and the quad-core APQ8064™. All chipsets in the family will integrate a quad-combo of connectivity solutions — WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth and FM — and include support for near field communication (NFC), as well as stereoscopic 3D (S3D) video and photo capture and playback. Support for every major operating system, across all tiers of products, comes standard on all Snapdragon chipsets.

Sent from me...
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
If you look, it says that all chipsets will integrate a quad-combo --> WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth, and FM. So once again its up in the air as to which versions will integrate an LTE modem.

FYI, the APQ has a built-in LTE modem.

I even question what I've been reading myself because why leave the amplifier if there is no LTE modem... but research has said that the T-Mobile version does not have an LTE modem.

I guess we just have to wait and see.

@monkeypaws - Verizon is already planning to roll out VoLTE... so unless you were specifically referring to T-Mobile, its coming by the end of this year. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/0...-by-end-of-this-year-to-help-lower-subsidies/