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[Galaxy S III General] Product F(RED):
It's an issue that runs much deeper than any of us can fix. It is an issue with the firmware of the memory chips. To summarize, you can try and slow it down, but it will happen no matter what.
[Galaxy S III General] zadusimple:
Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I wanted to know that changing file system to F2FS affects sudden death issues?

I have read the OP and I am aware that latest kernels are SDS prone. But wanted to ask this out of curiosity.
[Galaxy S III General] Clarence99:
help

Can anyone tell me how to fix the s3 sudden death syndrome.
[Galaxy S III General] Simonna:
Without changing motherboard you won't fix it.
[Galaxy S III General] Isuru cs:
anyone face SDS recently ?
[Galaxy S III General] Clarence99:
how much does it cost to change the motherboard in singapore?
[Galaxy S III General] Geekboy26:
Same thing happened to my Mom S3, it just died while it was on the charger! I had her plug it into her charger again after pulling the battery out a few times. Turns out it hadn't charged the night before and the battery was really low that's why it didn't respond. Reading through this thread has made me aware of the problem of the device just dying!
[Galaxy S III General] opssemnik:
mine is fixed since 4.1.2 UK update(weird, i need to use UK bootloader, or sds gets back, i will flash 4.3 stock soon, so lets se what hapens)

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update to lastest stock from sammobile, flash thru odin

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its a bootloader problem, (at least for me)
[Galaxy S III General] EmGeee:
mine died today...

32GB i9300 bought in July 2012

gonna send it back to the store where i got it, hoping for a replacement.

Once they changed the mainboard they will see my binary counter, right ?
[Galaxy S III General] Simonna:
If they will be able to go into Download mode,then yes.
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
No, that is not correct. If they replace the motherboard, then since the memory is on the mother board it will be like you have a entire new phone. If they are able to get into download mode before they try to replace the motherboard, then they can tell you flashed a custom rom.
[Galaxy S III General] EmGeee:
nope...its completely dead!

"yay" ?!
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
By the way, something I forgot to mention, the 32 GB version was NOT known to have the sudden death problem. It was only the 16 GB model. At least that's what they say here.

So it would be interesting to know exactly why yours died.
[Galaxy S III General] EmGeee:
yeah i read that aswell, it never dropped, no humidity, always been careful with it.

was also running latest 4.3 stock, just rooted but didnt tinker with any hardware settings.
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
Very strange. Maybe you just got a bad one. I hope everything goes well with getting it replaced at the purchase point.

Good Luck.
[Galaxy S III General] aliw32619:
I have a question , I just came back from a Sudden Death Syndrome and I changed the mainboard , when I got the phone back I flashed 4.3 JellyBean stock then rooted the phone , I'm just wondering if I can flash the 4.4 ROM will I get SDS again ??
[Galaxy S III General] Yasounet:
Since your mobo was replaced, you most likely no longer have faulty eMMC chip. Even if you ve gotten one with faulty chip again, most ( if not all ) of recent kernels have samsung sds fix included.
[Galaxy S III General] aliw32619:
Ok thanks man
[Galaxy S III General] Gdroid1:
Here's what i can tell you, I had a 16gb Canadian model that died, thought it was sudden death, I bought a 32GB model with a broken screen and swapped the motherboard, it worked for 1.5 months and guess what, died again. It was on 4.3 and the emmc app said had a "sane chip".

This phone was also from a different carrier and I just unlocked it. It wasn't rooted and I installed very little apps once I swapped the board.

Occasionally it will partially boot and then get stuck at the blue circle boot animation. I've also occasionally for it into download mode. If the emmc chip are dead I'd assume this wouldn't happen. I think there is something else going on and I suspect it's the same for many others. My only advice now is sell it for parts if it's broken because despite you thinking yours is fixed or has a sane chip, or is upgraded or is above 4.1.1 or 4.1.2, you're not safe from some sort death on this piece of junk phone.

By the way I treated mine like a jewel, no drops, no water, always in small case, it doesn't even have a scratch.

Also call samsung and complain, maybe they'll do something if we all do.
[Galaxy S III General] Geekboy26:
after the last post, confused as to what causes the SDS!
[Galaxy S III General] aliw32619:
What's wrong with S3 amd Note 2 why do they get SDS , i flashed the 4.4 Kitkat rom and it's going good until now
[Galaxy S III General] Yasounet:
Only 16gb chips were affected by SDS, your phone had to die due to something else.
[Galaxy S III General] Gdroid1:
Did samsung confirm that?

My 32GB did the same thing as my 16gb, I doubt the whole sds theory altogether based on first hand experience. Something is wrong but I'm not sure it's the chip.
[Galaxy S III General] Falenone:
What should I do to avoid Sudden Death bug?

I'm running MIUI V5 (4.1.1 base) (1 day old ROM in my phone)

eMMC memory test passed but say I have a crazy chip.

I have custom recovery whom name I can't remember. Touch control it has. But the Kernel is MIUI stock and someone stated that this has the crazy chip anomaly. When I was on stock rom then I had freezes where no button worked. Pulled battery and it worked again.

Should I try any kernel?
[Galaxy S III General] Gdroid1:
I think the problem is hardware not software based on my real experience. A lot of what I hear on this forum is theory and hypothesis. They said above 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 (don't remember which now but irrelevant) would solve the issue and I've proved that wrong twice.

They say the problem is only 16gb and I've proved that wrong. They say its the emmc chip and I'm not sure that's the issue either. They say the emmc app Telus you if it's sane or not and mine said was sane, yet it died.

I think if you're screwed, you're screwed. Sell it while it still works.
[Galaxy S III General] Yasounet:
@up

You might want to actually read the topic instead of spreading false information.

Issue is caused by hardware malfunction of eMMC chip, thats correct - phones would die after roughly 300 days of use. In 4.1.2 Samsung introduced kernel fixes that prevent phone from further damage caused by it, now phone instead of dying, would just simply froze. Problem is, that in most cases damage was already dealt during the time phone was used with non fixed kernel.

Regarding 16 or 32gb version - you ve proven nothing, your phone might have ( and most likely did ) died due to other reason, as 32gb were totally different batch than 16gb chips.

Regarding emmc apps - you are not supposed to look if the app tells you that phone is sane - only indicator is eMMC chip type - if its VTU00M, then you ve gotten faulty chip, and you should always use kernels with samsung fixes included.
[Galaxy S III General] Gdroid1:
Here's the reality, both phones died exactly the same way and they are broken, money wasted. If you baby your phone like me, it still might die. Doesn't matter if its 32GB or 16, 4.1.2 or above, custom rom/kernel or not, rooted or not. Once it's dead, you're in the same situation, screwed. Be warned, sell it and get something else.
[Galaxy S III General] steparky:
Hello!

I've been running CyanogenMod since I got my phone nearly two years ago, but recently it started playing up and freezing often. I just used KIES to restore the phone and I'm assuming this has fixed the problem by updating the firmware? If I were to root and flash CyanogenMod again, would I be safe from getting these freezing problems, or am I better off just sticking with this stupid TouchWiz bloatware crap?

Thanks,

Steven.
[Galaxy S III General] EmGeee:
quick update on the matter:

i got my device back by now with a note from Samsung saying that they "exchanged electric parts"

guess thats a new mainboard :)

all free of charge aswell even though my binary counter was high and the phone was rooted etc.
[Galaxy S III General] ASmir9995:
s3

Hello. today i was using PlayTube app from play store which when u listen online music it saves it ehm now i was listening music so i close up the app and start it again when i start it again my phone stucked like couple times ago fix was put of batery and put on and everything was fine but today when i put of the battery and put on the phone now wont turn on whole day i try with charger nop the led light not showing a the option power button volume up home screen button nothng help.. so could u guys know what should i do or wtf is going with my phone :S Thanks

P.S a week ago i change his whole screen with glass which i payed the touch was didnt work screen was black but the phone was alive :S
[Galaxy S III General] nutpn:
is this verizon also

Mine died, if I send this to vzw dead on arrival can they detect it was rooted
[Galaxy S III General] Simonna:
If they will be able to go to download mode,then yes they can.
[Galaxy S III General] nutpn:
no

It wont go in nothing mode, I can't get a response of any kind, lucky it was under warranty, barely under warranty by 12 days. But thats my concern is if I cant get it to turn on neither can they unless they have another way.

I have tried it with 3 different fully charged batteries, without battery and just cord, every way possible and no function not even an LED bleep, its DOA
[Galaxy S III General] highdiver_2000:
If you can't power it up, neither can they. Should be safe enough to send it in.
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
It's already gone
[Galaxy S III General] boys501:
does the GS3 T999 32 GO is concerned by the sudden death, because mine wont to turn on

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[Galaxy S III General] izsabadianz:
Brickbug

Have the same problem, tried the solution it isn't working :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] Product F(RED):
There is no solution. Once it's dead it's dead.
[Galaxy S III General] ThaDoctor72:
Confirmed dead, North American model

AT&T model I-747

Ran strong for a year and a half, running the same CWM flash the whole time.

I woke up one day, and my phone did not.

The day prior, it would go to sleep, and I would have to two-key it to bring it back up. That evening, I did a full Titanium backup and an ADB pull backup. After that night, it never powered on again with ANY key combo.

So it's sitting in a drawer until I feel like sinking 150 bucks into a JTAG RiffBox.
[Galaxy S III General] solehjeff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0afHKahR4&feature=youtube_gdata_playerThis worked for me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSLZFmhmBlc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
Solution is to send it to Josh at mobile tech videos and he'll out a new chip in it. Sent mine to the UK where it sat for a year almost arguing with them before they said we're not touching it and sent it back to me.

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It's fixed and sitting because I refuse to use Samsung anything now after that ordeal. I'll stick with my nexus
[Galaxy S III General] MosesTheTool:
I have 4 motherboards that appear to have "Sudden death", i saw on a Youtube video a guy replacing the EMMC, but he used an SD Card with something on it to check if it's the EMMC problem, does anyone know how to create an SD Card that will tell me if it's the EMMC problem?

http://youtu.be/rOYo9AcUQQI?t=23s

THANKS
[Galaxy S III General] Product F(RED):
I believe that's for the Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 based models, because the boot ROM is in the CPU (which doesn't die) rather than the eMMC (which dies due to SDS). This is the process. DO NOT USE THESE FILES. THEY ARE FOR THE SPRINT VERSION OF THE DEVICE. This cannot be used with ANY other model (even if they are Qualcomm, just SPH-L710). http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2345860
[Galaxy S III General] MosesTheTool:
You are mistaken, the guy in the video is repairing an i9300 model, if you look carefully, it says so in the white sticker behind the battery. So there must be a way to check the "status" or whatever of the EMMC on the i9300 model with an SD Card :eek:
[Galaxy S III General] opssemnik:
reading and reading made me think. did i have sds??. i mean, is sds just when the emmc really dies? mine was shutting itself off random times, tried custom kernels , custom roms, flashing odin with ops (to reformat) and etc... . not matter what, it could happen on boot or while doing nothing. so after i tried lastest UK 4.1.2 using Odin(at time not even aosp 4.3 was released) and stopped doing that. then just to try out i flashed back the brasilian 4.1.2 and the random shutdown came again. so it could only be bootloader(i´ve tried different radios also). now im on lastest bootloader and its not happening. all stable, no matter what rom, even 4.1.2 brasilian works. so mine was a sds or not?
[Galaxy S III General] TheAlexVae:
Wow! I have had the S III since almost release date, and the only thing which have happend is that I now need a widget to switch between speakers and headphones. Used the eMMC brickbug check app, and my phone has this insane chip as it says. Two years of use may come to and end in summer/autumn time maybe?
[Galaxy S III General] skivnit:
Bad batches that's all, my s3 was bought on launch date gave it to my brother when s4 came out. Its still functioning
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
want to sell

My S3's screen is broken, I removed the screen intending to replace it, I even installed the pre-cut double sided tape so it is ready for a new screen to be fitted. The Chip is not affected by SDS bug. I just bought a note 3, and I still have my S4 so I want to sell the whole thing. You can repair it with a nes creen, or just use the motherboard. I am in mainland USA.... pm me if you are interested.
[Galaxy S III General] Kusovi:
I'm new with android... I bought galaxy s3 i9300 in totaly stock condition with 4.0.4 installed(my first android phone). Then I installed eMMc check app from play store which said "NO. Sane chip.". Then I rooted phone with last cf-auto-root and installed latest cwm 6.0.4.7 from this forum. No problems. Then I installed last cm11 nightly and google apps. No problems. After that I installed eMMc checker again and now the app says "YES. Insane chip.". So.... Is my sgs3 sudden death syndromme "safe" or no?

Thanks guys...
[Galaxy S III General] Kusovi:
Anyone?:confused:
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
what's the first 3 digits of your IMEI number?
[Galaxy S III General] eskorpiao112:
So guys, i have the 16 gbs version and i already updated my phone. And the checker said "No. Sane chip". Can i still have this problem? :(
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
Once you got the phone and updated it to the latest firmware, you should be fine because the latest firmware has so called "fix"
[Galaxy S III General] eskorpiao112:
Thanks for answer me dude :)
[Galaxy S III General] Kusovi:
353
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
Your chip is affected by sds unfortunately. Based on expetience, imei starting from 355 and above are not. I say this because I have handled about 12 units.
[Galaxy S III General] Kusovi:
So... If I have cm11 and cwm 6.0.4.7 on my phone...is it relatively safe or not?

Thanks...
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
I cannot tell you there and then but if it contains new firmware then it should be safe. I have stopped flashing my s3. It still runs 4.1.2 with perseus kernel 33.3 . If you read the Op, then check the details of whichever rom you are installing then you should be able to know the answer. Good luck
[Galaxy S III General] milsca:
Hello,

I experience the same problem with my GS3 I9300 16 GB IMEI starting with 354245 and firmware 4.0.4. I tried to flash latest firmware from sammobile a lot of times. I suceeded only one time but still the phone stay stuck on samung logo at boot. Now I always get Nand write fail whatever I do.

Is there any way to fix it ?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] GuyInTheCorner:
Hey all.

I //think// I have a SDS effected S3, but I'm not so sure, so I ;m hoping you guys can confirm.

Model: GT I9300 (International)

Carrier: Three Hutchinson (3 UK) (Phone is carrier locked & branded)

Baseband: I9300NEUGNA2

Build Number: JSS15J.I9300XXUGNA5

Kernel Version: 3.0.31-2429075

dpi@hp20 #1

Thu Jan 16 23:47:54 KST 2014

Android Version: 4.3 Jellybean (all OTA updates installed, especially the 4.1.2 update/patch)

Insane Chip: YES (checked with eMMC Brick Bug check app)

Additional info: Phone Number shows as 'UNKNOWN' and I am using a Anker 7200 mAh Extended battery (not the issue as far as I can tell, has many many positive reviews). Phone has NEVER been rooted, always running official software (only using Nova Launcher instead of TouchWiz Launcher)

Phone is within warranty period, although it was given as a gift to me.

Also, phone once booted into Safe Mode for a while?

>>>IMPORTANT<<

I can SOMETIMES access Recovery & Download Mode, but the phone reboots before I can select any options, usually after about 5/10 seconds.

TL/DR:

Phone started looping, very temperamental (often rebooting and looping randomly) and can't fully access Recovery or Download.

Symptoms: Yesterday I was using the phone, texting a friend of mine. Put it down to quickly reply to another message. Picked it up to see the standard 'Samsung Galaxy S III GT-I9300' splash screen. Odd behavior. Kept looping on the splash screen, so I pulled the battery (similar thing happened a while ago, I pulled the battery a while and it was working fine after) and let it rest. Came back an hour later, reinserted the battery and it kept looping on me. So I left it a while and put it back in. Success! It booted. I proceeded to talk to my friends using various apps (Kik Messenger and Text+). I fell asleep, and when I woke up, it was looping again, and the device was a little warm. Got to school, done a little research and found that very quickly repeatedly pressing the power button got the phone to boot for one user (Android Central forum, cant remember the exact thread). It booted a while (I backed up my SMS messages and my WhatsApp messages too). Then it started to loop again, so I tried the technique of pressing the power button repeatedly. It worked maybe 20% of the time, getting to the Three UK boot animation, before looping again to the Samsung Screen.

Now I have the phone on, connected to my lappy backing up any information, worried for any permanent damage.

Thanks in advance,

Guy
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
If it's silk working now I wouldn't worry about it
[Galaxy S III General] GuyInTheCorner:
I'm still worried as it happens a lot and without warning, and very often so I don't have a useable phone a lot of the time
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
Well what a lot of people in here refer to as SDS is not in my opinion. Death is final so if your phone is getting anything than while you may have an internal issue you do not have SDS. I hung up after a phone call and 5 minutes later my phone never worked again. No power, no boot loop, no glowing led, nothing. That is SDS to me. I sent it from USA to UK where they sat on it for a year before refusing to fix it. Finally got it back and paid Josh at mobile tech videos to put a brand new chip in it for under 200. Bought a Nexus 5 and will never but Samsung anything again after the awful customer service and hundreds of dollars spent
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
Sometimes before SDS, users experience symptoms like phone rebooting on its own, freezing, etc...

Wow, you spent a lot on this phone. You could have bought my S3 with broken screen and used the main board ...

I too have looked at other alternatives . In fact I have bought a Nexus 4 before, and I bought a nexus 5 2 months ago, I didn't like them. I have an S4 and a Note 3. I have also looked at Xperia Z and the HTC One but those do not have user changeable batteries like on the Samsung's. Right now I have no choice but once Sony and HTC or even Nokia makes a phone/phablet similar to what Samsung offers on thei units, I will jump ship. I don't like the restrictions that samsung is putting on their new devices.... Knox, region lock... what's next? locked bootloaders ?

One good thing I have read about the Sony Xperia is their LTE channels cover worldwide. USA/EU/Asia , while samsung makes one device for each...
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
The CM One plus One is the phone to get. I'm already in the waiting list. Just waiting for it to go on sale here in the USA
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
What phone is that ? I haven't heard of it.
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
If you can dig out a good price, it's hard to beat the features and capabilities you get with Samsung phones. It does seem like every model does have some issue, but it looks like most other brands do as well.

It's a conundrum.
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
Cyanogenmod's new phone

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...3gb-of-ram-and-3100mah-non-removable-battery/

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Don't get me wrong they make great phones. My boycott is based strictly on their ****ty customer service.
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
Understandable. PM me what you want for your S3
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
Give me a bit to get from picking up my 3m month old. And I'll get you a few pics and the info. Phone is mint. Especially with a brand new chip in it, lol
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
Wow, a 3 month old. That's a lot of work. I pm'd you my email.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S III General] nm8:
Wow that looks nice and it looks like a previous HTC model I forgot the model number. What I don't like is this: Battery: 3100mAh (non-removable)

Why can't the manufacturers make a phone with removable back cover and user changeable battery???
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
And put in a micro SD slot. Both are deal breakers for me.
[Galaxy S III General] scottcwhite:
I used to feel that way but since having the Nexus 4 and 5I haven't missed those two key features. I'm not a gamer so I don't have that storage need our battery drain.

I do use my phone heavily though for work and get on average 15 hours of battery with 3 hours of screen time and 2 hours of phone use. Between my Box, Dropbox, and Google accounts I have over 100 gb if free cloud storage that I don't even use but is there if I need it
[Galaxy S III General] k-semler:
Is the XXELLA bootloader immune? I think my phone may have just died, but I'm not sure.
[Galaxy S III General] Eugney:
Is it possible to replace 16 Gb eMMC by 32 Gb chip?

Hello,

eMMC chip in my I9300 died, I was using Omega ROM based on 4.1.2 firmware.

I wonder if it is possible to replace 16 Gb chip by 32 Gb chip? Are they compatible?

I'm going to buy eMMC kmvwu000lm-b900.

Thank you.
[Galaxy S III General] salmankhan720:
S3 Died last night

So my rooted S3 died overnight RIP. It has been with me for around 1.5 years and never had any problems except for two months ago when it had crashed while updating. I had to flash the phone and update it using KIES. And now it's just stop responding. This has happened to a friend before so I know it's something with the motherboard. I guess it's time to move on
[Galaxy S III General] mr.zdir:
Hey,why dont gve a try flashing via odin. Download the latest firmware n voila..
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
try to get into download mode, if it does, no need to worry, besides, i don't think it's an SDS case

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if it is the case, yes it is possible but you better stick to 16GB