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[Galaxy S III General] RectorReflector:
My 16 GB, CF auto rooted device, with stock kernel and rom died on december 31st while it was not on charge. Overnight the battery drained from 90% to empty. The phone was bought in june last year.

Before the death, the phone automaticaly rebooted several of times and I had the feeling my battery drained faster as normal. I was not worried at that moment, but was wondering why it occured. At that moment I figured that it had to be a software error, since the batteryicon popped up when I put my device on charge. I called the Samsung Helpdesk. They also told me it had to be a software problem and I had to give it in for repair.

So I went to the Vodafone dealer where I bought my phone. The employee also figured it had to be a softwareproblem. I told him I rooted my phone and he advised me a local repaircenter, where I brought my phone to. They told me they could reset the software. I only had to pay 20 euro's if they fixed it. But of course it didn't work because my phone was dead and couldn't get into downloadmode.

On the 1st of januari I was visiting a friend with a S3. He also had the same problem. Then I realized there had to be a general S3 problem.

So I searched the web and read about the SDS issue. For the 2nd time I called Samsung Helpcenter. I confronted them with the worldwide S3 problem and I said I didn't believe they didn't know about this problem. Still they didn't admit they had heard of it.

Since that, I follow this thread carefully and decided I should wait a few days, before taking the device for repair. I was hoping for a solution on XDA and expected Samsung should start an exchange program for defected phones. Unfortunally it didn't came. I'm very disappointed in Samsung and the way they treat there customers! (I'm a big consumer of Samsung products for many years now.) Also the lies they told me on the phone are making me angry.

Yesterday I took my device for repair to the Vodafone store where I bought my phone. I told the (other then previous) employee about the SDS problem. I insisted 3 times that he had to write the words sudden death syndrome in the repairreport, but he refused to. (Because he didn't know of SDS) He told me it could take 2 to 3 weeks (!) to repair. Of course I didn't tell this guy my phone was rooted, so hoping for the best.

I will continue following this useful thread. I hope the thread gets more readable after the last posts of qavro. Thumbs up for you.

:cowboy:
[Galaxy S III General] jonny68:
Funnily enough my mate has just got a Galaxy S3 and he asked me to set it up for him as hasn't the first clue about smartphones, i felt a twinge of jealousy as i set up his brand new phone knowing mine is dead and in the repair centre, but anyway this obviously hasn't prevented companies from still selling loads, more people seem to have a Galaxy S3 from what I can see these days
[Galaxy S III General] offgrey:
If by Sammy here you mean SamMobile, then well and good. But Samsung never ever officially announced that the XXELLA bootloader or kernel or anything in XXELLA would fix the SDS issue. All that was ever confirmed was that it fixes Exynos. And they didn't even announce that. XDA users figured it out by trying to use the Exynos Abuse.apk to root and it wouldn't work.

Yes, Samsung sucks because they should announce officially what exactly they think is causing the SDS issue so we can at least be informed, but they haven't actually lied about the firmware. Okay? Okay. :good:
[Galaxy S III General] vasp3690:
Bought another one with t-mobile. Needed a new line anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] sak500:
Good see you in six months in this thread lol.
[Galaxy S III General] mjb:
Oh, I don't believe they are either - just a conceivable theory, that's all.
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
Now shall i flash the LLA or jst wait?:D
[Galaxy S III General] drraptor:
Do a toss :D
[Galaxy S III General] vasp3690:
True.

But I bought the i9305 and that has a completely different mmc chip

And I also like to have wishful thinking!
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
Thanks for help mate
[Galaxy S III General] krazy_about_technology:
Guys, I have been following this thread since quiet some time. I am quiet sure now that the issue is happening with 16 GB version only and keeping that in mind, I purchased a 32 GB version 2-3 days back.

Now as for the new ROM released by Samsung UK (ELLA), I think people who have already started getting early symptoms of Sudden Death, don't have much hope left now.

The reasons is, if this issue happens due to bad firmware, then definitely it is causing quick hardware wear-n-tear, be it EMMC chip or whatever. Overtime, the hardware gets degraded to a point when parts of it start to fail, just like AIDS in humans :| Then one day, when the body (hardware chip in this case) can take no more wear-n-tear, it fails.

So basically, if you are already having the symptoms, it means your hardware has gone through enough damage and it is dying. At this stage, even if the firmware is modified to stop doing whatever wrong it was doing, there is no system in the phone's hardware to repair the damage, just like in last stage of AIDS and it will die out of normal usage also.

But people who are having good phone, should get it immediately to cure it before it does un-repairable damage.
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Leaving for charge overnight with lla bootloader.

God wish me luck.
[Galaxy S III General] robogo1982:
Already ahead of you: been leaving it over night on the charger with LLA bootloader for a couple of days now. All is well. Heck, I'm typing this post from my phone. :)
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Ok that's great relieves me of the tension residing in my heart
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
I hope you are wrong for others lol but I hope you are right for me because my s3 is only 1 week old. .I flashed the LLA firmware, kernel and bootloader

Fingers crossed
[Galaxy S III General] robogo1982:
But I also have to say I'm at around 190 days and haven't experienced any symptoms so far.
[Galaxy S III General] georgesadam:
Does this mean im safe from sudden death ??
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
I know that rooting the phone doesn't affect anything on the phone but I wanted to know that if the kernel is responsible for the sudden death and in this version is fixed does it make any change if it's rooted??
[Galaxy S III General] drraptor:
No, it seems more of a hardware issue rather than software.

Even non-rooted phone have suffered SDS
[Galaxy S III General] iridaki:
Can people that suffered Sudden Death of their phones after charging, specify whether they were charging via USB or wall charger? In the Perseus kernel thread there are some interesting observations about the stock wall charger misbehaving (read from post #2729 and below).

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[Galaxy S III General] JepeP:
No.
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
You're not safe mate :

check this out : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36242694&postcount=1881
[Galaxy S III General] kroata:
I m safe or not?
[Galaxy S III General] Haano:
Triangle awayed my phone today and changed charger from stock Samsung to a Sony erricson one that is only capable of outputting 700mA compared to 1A.

Phones just passed its 6 months usage date.I've regularely left it over night when charging. But taking more cautions now. ;)

Bootloader is still old!

Your safe from exynos exploit but not Sudden death. The reason is that no ones knows exactly why this is happening. Also it hasnt been very long since the new boot loader is released so only time will tell if people are safe or not.
[Galaxy S III General] kroata:
Ty for quick answ.

otišlo sa SGS3
[Galaxy S III General] georgesadam:
Sh*t

I have the vtu00M chip ..

I hope my s3 wont die
[Galaxy S III General] Haano:
Anyone who is extremely worries about Sudden Death or from Samsung not fixing their phones due to root, in my opinion should get some cheap insurance that has included accidental damage.

That way if your phone dies and your still worried about the counter you could break the top corners of the screen so the counters can't be read and return the device ;)
[Galaxy S III General] socialterrorest:
Well I have never charged my s3 via a usb all my charging is done in a dock which just charges a spare battery and I swap as I need to but since yesterday my phone has started to restart by itself ? What is going on ... im on the latest unlocked uk rom ..
[Galaxy S III General] Алексей Давыдов:
Samsung Galaxy S3

Цитата:) я не думаю, что зарядного тока и напряжения, не имеет ничего общего с внезапной смерти, потому что выходной ток и напряжение всегда 750mah и 5В. Это может быть слива или ток утечки, вызывающие материнской платы, чтобы жарит)!

Это верно подмечено!!! Через сетевую вилку возможно проходит большая сила тока что приводит к перегреву аккумулятора ! и выходу из строя электроники телефона ! безопасный режим зарядки через ЮСБ кабель от компьютера (малым током) долго но безопасно! либо через:

Внешний аккумулятор Samsung 9000mAh ! так как силу тока более 1.0 A устройство не пропустит! :смех:
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Looks like your galaxy s3 is dying :( :(.is it lagging and becoming unresponsive?
[Galaxy S III General] dajumper:
Это верно подмечено!!! Через сетевую вилку возможно проходит большая сила тока что приводит к перегреву аккумулятора ! и выходу из строя электроники телефона ! безопасный режим зарядки через ЮСБ кабель от компьютера (малым током) долго но безопасно! либо через:

Внешний аккумулятор Samsung 9000mAh ! так как силу тока более 1.0 A устройство не пропустит! :смех:[/QUOTE]

English please!
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Это верно подмечено!!! Через сетевую вилку возможно проходит большая сила тока что приводит к перегреву аккумулятора ! и выходу из строя электроники телефона ! безопасный режим зарядки через ЮСБ кабель от компьютера (малым током) долго но безопасно! либо через:

Внешний аккумулятор Samsung 9000mAh ! так как силу тока более 1.0 A устройство не пропустит! :смех:[/QUOTE]

English? ??? You know that you can't post in other languages???
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
go back to stock and buy an insurance if you don't have one !
[Galaxy S III General] socialterrorest:
Funnily enough before the restarts I thought my phone was laggy in general all of a sudden screen rotation takes longer when u press the adress bar on browser the keyboard takss a while to appear ...what would you recommend
[Galaxy S III General] Алексей Давыдов:
Samsung Galaxy S3

This is surely noticed! After the plug is probably much electrical current that leads to overheating of the battery! and failure of the electronic phone! Safe mode YUSB charge via cable from the computer (trickle) long but safe! or through:

External Battery Samsung 9000mAh! as a current exceeding 1,0 A device does not miss!
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
I would recommend a full wipe (backup now first !) then flash the latest 4.1.2 firm via Odin PC ...and pray :(
[Galaxy S III General] socialterrorest:
I dont really wanna re flash to a non stock rom , but thanks for the advise .surely it is still covered by a manufactures warrenty its only 6 month old
[Galaxy S III General] linas_ltu:
Dear Soviet Friend, please translate it to English.
[Galaxy S III General] j0sefuz:
i always charge my phone from an AVR and will never use non stock roms. i never played with bootloaders, kernels, or anything else.

i hope i'm safe from Sudden Death. :S
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
Actually I was talking about the latest STOCK rom 4.1.2 , some people reported that lagging just disappeared after becoming stock on 4.1.2 . Also it would be a good test if you could do that and report if really the slowness has gone and for how long your phone will survive ....in case you know ...
[Galaxy S III General] socialterrorest:
Im on 4.1.2 and nothing seems to be changed its still lagging I didn't have the restart problem before I updated but it was sluggish before the update
[Galaxy S III General] yhrn:
Mine died while charging using a wall charger from an old ZTE Blade and this is the charger I've used almost exclusively. I've only used the included wall charger on a handful of occasions.
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
There is ,until now, no evidence nor official statement from Samsung to explain the real cause of the SDS . You might flash your phone twice a day and do many "safe" experiments and your device will be just fine , on the other hand you can be super protective but your phone could just go to a better place just like that .

---------- Post added at 10:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 PM ----------

How did you upgrade your device ? Kies ? odin pc ? odin mobile ?

---------- Post added at 10:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 PM ----------

@yhrn

Don't blame your ZTE blade charger , even people using the "official" galaxy s3 charger had SDS , also samsung is just replacing the Mobo not chargers , it's clear that it's not an electrical cause , it's a faulty mobo component .
[Galaxy S III General] madscientistdam:
just here me out

OK people let's think logically Samsung said they are aware of the SD problem rite?and they will be rolling out a fix soon OK! so I would say the fix would be on its way this month or by next month the latest ,so its like this if the fix doesn't come by the end of next month its more than likely we already have it with ELLA!!! Its really that simple but we shouldn't be playing the guessing game shamshung should have just gone ahead and told us if the update fix is in ELLA or not.
[Galaxy S III General] CSeb95:
My S3 died today.

For some days it has been lagging and unresponsive.

During the night it ran out of battery and this morning I just had the battery picture but the turning circle in it stood still.

I can go in download mode but can't flash anything or repartition the phone, it always failed.

Baught in the 8th of june or so, died 8 months later :(

Really a pity .
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Hard to say....I would flash XXELLA firmware and kernel but not the bootloader if you are under warranty....

That's all we can do for now. We all are waiting for a official statement from samsung....
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Can go into download mode? !

Try flashing new boot loader.

Ive heard too many cases of 8 months later. Most devices seem to die then. :/
[Galaxy S III General] CSeb95:
I can't flash anything, nothing works. I tried to repartitioned with odi, flash stock XXELLA everything fail. :(
[Galaxy S III General] madscientistdam:
hear me out

OK people let's think logically Samsung said they are aware of the SD problem rite?and they will be rolling out a fix soon OK! so I would say the fix would be on its way this month or by next month the latest ,so its like this if the fix doesn't come by the end of next month its more than likely we already have it with ELLA!!! Its really that simple but we shouldn't be playing the guessing game shamshung should have just gone ahead and told us if the update fix is in ELLA or not.
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Well there's not much we all can do.we all are praying to see our devices alive after we wake up :(
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
8 months seems like the fatidic and longest period before SDS :( It's just around 5800 hours !
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
I have just flashed the LLA rom and i noticed no more lugging on facebook app wich i had a tiny problem with it before even i was on a different 4.1.2 rom
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
I think so.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
I don't think so. This seems to be a software vs. hardware problem. When the software has a problem there are still signs of life. But when the motherboard craps out it is totally dead with no signs of life. If you read through this thread you can easily tell the hardware issues from the softbricks. This thread was basically designed to see if we could find a commonality between all the hardware failures. Which I feel we have, as it seems there is a bad motherboard run with the first released units. I haven't yet seen any hardware failures on later motherboards so we can all hope that's the issue. If not, it means that all the phones may fail after they are 6 month old or so. I pray that's not the issue. God help us all!!!
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
@gspears:

I read anywhere that the S3 is booting the kernel for battery charging. So when thats right, no kernel, no battery charging.

What about the following thoughts:

Assumption: flash memory gets inaccessible.

Now it depends when this happens.

a) In the night, S3 connected to charger. System freezes, but system gets power from AC adapter so battery doesn't drain. At morning you see a S3 stuck at boot logo. Battery is not empty.

b) S3 is lying around. Flash dies, system freezes, maybe cpu gets into loop, battery get drained totally. If the user doesn't recognize that, he will have a sudden death S3 later. Battery is totally drained and user can't charge it.

c) S3 is lying around. Flash dies, but user recognize it, before the battery is fully drained. If the user pulls the battery and restart the phone, you have the stuck at white logo.

But maybe there are two different ways that the flash dies. Maybe in way one, at least the bootloader is readable and the S3 boots into the bootloader/download mode and in way two the flash dies totally that not even the bootloader loads.

At least thats the way I think about it. But thats just a thought from me. Can be, can be wrong, also.

I just wonder if someone had already tried to boot the S3 from microSD and if it's maybe possible to boot a full rom from microSD and use this rom to diagnose the flash state.

[IMPORTANT] Be Prepared Ahead Of Time To Fix A Hard Brick On Your Galaxy S3 - xda-developers

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
Very interesting argument but the only issue is that people who have had the hardware fail have tried a different battery that was charged. Plus most of them would have had some charge left to get into download mode but the phone would do nothing.

That's not to say that you are not correct however, with as many of these phones that are out there I'm sure there is a million ways for them to die.

Thank you for the interesting post.
[Galaxy S III General] cartman4u:
What happened: Charged overnight from friday to saturday. Cannot get in recovery but in download mode. Prior, I experiencend random reboots (once a month?!). It is not possible to install an other rom/pit file via odin. When I try to charge the phone I only see the grey battary icon with a circle in it.

What ROM/Firmware: Checkrom EvoHD v6

What kernel: stock

OC or UV: no!

Where phone was made: Samsung (not given)

Where battery was made: stock (Korea, ensembeld in Vietnam)
[Galaxy S III General] PjotrFias:
Sorry, it seems there is still no solution.

Can you tell me if download mode shows custom rom?
[Galaxy S III General] cartman4u:
In my case: Product Name: (empty), Custom Binary download: No, Current binary: Samsung Official, System Status: Custom
[Galaxy S III General] PjotrFias:
That (empty) is weird.

Did you use Triangle away to reset the counter?
[Galaxy S III General] Rob2222:
Thats the usual behaviour in this case.

Product name is gone, system status is custom and download counter resets itself to 0 without using triangle away.

Cause of that I am thinking the bootloader is not able to access the memory/hidden partition.

BR

Rob
[Galaxy S III General] jsmasterx:
Alankstiyo thread is duplicate by this one.

Alankstiyo you should ask a mod to have this thread closed and move to yours.

There is a lot or duplicate these days and its quite annoying
[Galaxy S III General] Obagleyfreer:
The reason I created this thread was because of all the duplicates. Also because all the other threads didn't seem that helpful, everyone was just saying that there phone had died.

I decided to create this to see if we could find any common factors and maybe get to the bottom of it and find a cause.

I agree that removing duplicate threads is a good idea, but I think there's a lot more info in this one.

So removing the other one is a better idea in my opinion.
[Galaxy S III General] spamtrash:
Hmmm.... I think that at least you're partially right.

I personally suppose something like: CPU gets into loop, draining the battery on that stage (or not, in some cases it died just in the charger), but CPU heats up. By heat - some element on mainboard is damaged, and can create the short circuit even. Then, the heating is more intense... and - we have fried SGS3 :rolleyes:

This is only one explanation to almost common phenomenon: phone was VERY HOT while removed from the charger, and if it was alive - battery died very quickly just after.
[Galaxy S III General] luke318is:
this thread is scary!
[Galaxy S III General] Andrewtst:
I just found this thread.

Mine also sudden dead on 14/November/2012. Just get back my phone from service center Yesterday night.

What happened: Overnight charging, 2nd day wake up, it hang at boot logo and cannot do anything, even re-flash, re-partition, all fail. Only can access download mode, recovery mode is not accessible.

What ROM/Firmware: WanamLite v4.3

What kernel: XXDLJ5 (If not wrong)

OC or UV: nil

Where phone was made: Made in Korea

Where battery was made: Made in Korea
[Galaxy S III General] ongdennis:
What happened: Phone with 89% battery, send a whatapp message and leave it there. After 2 hours want to use it again, it already turn off itself. Pull battery, plug in charger...etc all also cant turn on the phone. dead on 30 Nov 2012

What ROM/Firmware: Wanam v5

What kernel: siyah 1.8

OV or UV: UV

Where phone was made: No idea, already send in for warranty

Where battery was made: stock; made in Korea and assemble at Vietnam
[Galaxy S III General] bligui:
Mine also sudden death on 26/November/2012.

What happened: Overnight charging hwne I wake up, it hang at boot logo and can"t do anything, re-flash, re-partition, all fail.

What ROM/Firmware: WanamLite v4.3

What kernel: XXDLJ5

OC or UV: None

Where phone was made: No idea

Where battery was made: No idea

From Claro Honduras, took it to service center still waiting on answer.

It was the first one sold in Honduras bought in July 2012, very sad that such a great phone shows this kind of problem it lasted me 5 months.
[Galaxy S III General] STELIOSFAN:
Did any of the rooted phones that died had the "red mark" on top left when booting?
[Galaxy S III General] UncleBeer:
Mine didn't, but now that it's come back from service with a brand-new motherboard and fully-stock firmware (UNrooted!), it had the red mark.
[Galaxy S III General] STELIOSFAN:
This is why I'm asking. At least we can focus this "Sudden death" syndrome into the phones without the Red Mark and assume that any phone with the Red Mark is safe
[Galaxy S III General] gspears:
Tell us more about this red mark. Where exactly do you see it? What does it look like? Where in the boot process does it appear? If you load custom boot animations do you lose the red mark?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
is it the stock 4.1.2 rom and how did you flashed it ? odin pc ?
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
Yes 4.1.2 LLA flashed with odin pc and rooted with cf root
[Galaxy S III General] moujibzinc:
how old is your s3 and have you noticed any slowness or auto reboot lately ? is it a 16gb international version ?
[Galaxy S III General] anibalk8:
GS3 sudden death thread

Does anyone knows if the GS3 sudden death thread is affecting the Galaxy S3 SGH-i747 (AT&T)?
[Galaxy S III General] alformiga:
My s3 lived only 5 months....ONLY....
[Galaxy S III General] jay_m3:
7 months and 7 days and yes 16 gb international no rebooting..and am sure that if you're facing rebooting issue its because of the stock you're working with