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[Galaxy S III General] sgsboyo:
Just adding my experience to this topic, looking for some pointers as to what may be wrong with my gs3 and possible solutions.

I had updated to 4.1.2 ELL4 but earlier this week while charging my phone it switched itself off. Also had various crashes etc. I can't figure out what's going wrong with it but I've now upgraded to ELLA and it's still randomly switching off or crashing.

I'm worried that it may be "on it's way out" but don't know how to check this or anything. Do I just have to wait for it to happen, and hope it doesn't happen? Not very impressed if it's going to die (this is my third galaxy s device - I've had the galaxy s, galaxy s2 and now this s3, and I love these devices so would be very sad if this one proved to be unstable).

What should I be looking at/for to check how stable my phone is? Or do I just have to accept that it's temperamental and just live with it?

I'm sorry if I'm asking stupid questions that have already been answered but this topic is so massive that it's impossible to find answers in when trying to read it on my phone.

I'm happy to give more details if required and would be very grateful for any real help.
[Galaxy S III General] tangosierra_:
how did you update the software? Odin, mobile Odin, kies etc?
[Galaxy S III General] sgsboyo:
Upgraded via kies
[Galaxy S III General] T0xic4u:
So you want us to act like an Apple-Iphone-Fanboy??

Thats hard man, thats hard.

Taper di Tap von meinem Smarty
[Galaxy S III General] morben:
I believe I have the sudden death issue - random freezes, wont wake up from sleep. Only a battery pull, or holding the power button for 10 seconds to reboot will bring it back to life. Having about 10 time per day now.... I am running a custom rom with firmware XXELL5 and Stock Kernel XXELL5. I just installed the new bootloader XXELLA and still the sudden death issue remains. Where too from here? I have read in this thread that some phones are not able to recover from a freeze (not power on or reboot). Should I not use my phone until Samsung release a fix?
[Galaxy S III General] Alf0903:
:good: :laugh: :cyclops: that was a really good answer!!!

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That is not the SDS, more likely your phone is a zombie, once your phone has the SDS there is no coming back, but to have it resucitated by samsung service centre, by installing a new MoBo, so as you can see, if your phone is coming back to life by itself, you own a Zombiung S III not a Samsung SIII suffering from SDS.

Best regards!
[Galaxy S III General] darkcell:
I think ELLA does fix the SDS by making the sgs3 semi brick, so samsung could enter download mode and void our warranty...duh!
[Galaxy S III General] morben:
Thanks! Not having the SDS is good news I suppose. Though I cant seem to shake this zombie thing. Full wipe and trying different roms doesn't seem to shake it.
[Galaxy S III General] caalca:
Interesting, why don't flash the complete ELLA rom with Pc Odin, with the new bootloader and wait what happens?. Maybe it could repair your phone and you can help us to see the results and make some people happy.

Just as a tip, I see that your phone is usable, so, I recommend you that if you have modified the system (like rooting, changing kernels, or installing a custom ROM) and the binary counter have changed, flash the old bootloader, then use triangle away app to reset it, and for last make a clean istalation of the complete ELLA rom with the new bootloader. If you do that, you don't lose the warranty if ELLA firmware doesn't fix the phone.

Here you have the link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2083860

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I have an idea, What about if somebody with the new bootloader with the stock kernel and custom rom try to flash the stock recovery? I have read that the "!" symbol of the new bootloader is proveked because of having a custom kernel or a custom recovery. What about if we have the stock kernel with the stock recovery on our custom roms (rooted)?

And if we need to flash something we just do it with mobile odin; or reflash a custom recovery, come back to the stock one when we have finished and reset counter :eek: Is this idea stupid or could it work?
[Galaxy S III General] zyclops1:
I flashed stock XXELLA.firmware,am i safe from sudden death?
[Galaxy S III General] Dean-xXx:
It's not yet confirmed by samsung that the will prevent sudden death, but some user with symptoms for sudden death got it fixed only by flashing the new rom. Anyway is a great update and works flawlessly.
[Galaxy S III General] macuis:
I had just installed (yesterday) 4.1.1 stock over 4.1.2 stock as I was was having wifi tethering issues. I've been using the phone since June 20, 2012.
[Galaxy S III General] Prodepressiva:
Simple question:

Do we have any reported SDS with XXELLA until now?
[Galaxy S III General] UncleBeer:
Not everyone's so comfortable being dishonest.
[Galaxy S III General] Product F(RED):
So I installed Omega 36 (ELLA) over 33.1, but not the bootloader. So the ROM, kernel, and modem are all ELLA. So far apps load a bit noticeably quicker, and scrolling seems smoother. The only thing I'm not digging is that the Samsung kernels produce blurry screen image (jagged fonts) compared to Siyah kernel. But I'm willing to put up with it until Siyah kernel is updated to ELLA.

tl;dr: ELLA ROM and/or kernel provide real performance benefits, but I don't think the bootloader benefits us in any way.
[Galaxy S III General] nexusepoch:
My S3 just died yesterday.. Went to sleep and it was stuck on the Samsung boot logo when I got up... SELL ALL SAMSUNG SHARES!!!!!!!
[Galaxy S III General] fatsomak:
Is it confirmed that only the 16gb is dying ???
[Galaxy S III General] clustered:
What happened: My brother S3 suddenly died last night! Now can't on! Put a charger, no any light... I tried to put a battery from my sister S3, can't bring it on too, can't do anything at all... :((

Where phone was made: No idea, buy from telecommunication provider.

Where battery was made: Stock

What firmware you were running: Stock

Can you access download mode? No! can't do anything at all!
[Galaxy S III General] offgrey:
True. But rooting the phone can't possibly be causing SDS. Maybe bootloops and FCs can be caused by rooting but the only way I can ever see anyone getting hardbricked from attempting a root is by flashing the wrong root file (one intended for another phone or something). It's not right that your warranty is voided just from rooting when EU law (at least, from what some of the users here have said [I personally wouldn't know. I'm from Asia]) says that they can't refuse warranty repair because phone/tablet/whatever was running custom software. Frankly, I wouldn't be lying if I just don't tell them that I'm rooted. Yes, I'm not offering up all the information I have, but neither is Samsung. Besides, most of the front line customer service don't know what the heck they're talking about anyway.

Unconfirmed. It may just be that there are more reports of 16gb models dying for the simple reason that MOST of the S3s sold are 16 gb. I remember a post here in the thread from a French guy who is the moderator of a French forum saying that there was a thread talking about SDS on 32 gb models as upon release there, only 32gb models were available.
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Here it says that sammy knows about this problem and it's affecting a small amount of devices.Also they say that sudden death issue is a firmware issue

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/04/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-sudden-death-fix-coming/
[Galaxy S III General] Product F(RED):
I don't trust Sammy or any company to be honest or ethical. You don't always get to the top by being honest and fair.
[Galaxy S III General] UncleBeer:
That's an entirely separate issue. The poster was being told he was 'dumb' for showing personal integrity.
[Galaxy S III General] 80000037:
LOL,,, this thread now fulls with Jokers :laugh:

Anyway, I think the guy who flashed XLLA but still got sudden death is because... well, he flashed a little too late?

The damage already done by the prior 180 days of "firmware abuse" (since samsung said the cause was firmware bug)??

Anyway, this case reminded me of IBM Deskstar GXP-model failures in 2001. At that time, IBM release a firmware update to fix the issue.

You can read about the IBM DeathStar hard drives here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deskstar
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
I still think that is a kernel problem....maybe he had the firmware but with a custom kernel
[Galaxy S III General] yhrn:
What happened: Exactly the same as quoted above.

What ROM/Firmware: NeatRomLite v1.3 (which I'm convinced had nothing to do with it.)

What kernel: Perseus alpha 29.2

OV or UV: No

Where phone was made: No idea, bought in Sweden somewhere around July last year.

Where battery was made: stock; no idea

How can I determine where the phone and battery was made? And does anybody have any tips on where to get it fixed in Stockholm? The problem for me is that I didn't buy it in a store; I got I from my boss who got it from some company that my company uses for managing our cell phone contracts.
[Galaxy S III General] kinnyfaifai:
Mine died yesterday.

What happened: Around 10pm, went to use phone, it was completely gone. Had 27% battery remaining so tried to charge...nada. Swapped batteries with wife's S3...nada.

What ROM/Firmware: Android Revolution 14

What kernel: Perseus alpha 26

OV or UV: No

Where phone was made: Korea

Where battery was made: China

eMMC info:

Date: 05/2012

FwRev: 0xf1

HW Rev: MP 1.100

Had phone since launch day in UK it managed 218 days! Now off to repair centre. I tried getting O2 to give me new phone in stead of changing mobo. But they wouldn't budge! Nevermind, only 1 week! Fingers crossed they can't turn the damn thing on and find I've rooted!
[Galaxy S III General] swedan:
I was running UltimaROM 8.0 XXELLA when my SGS3 died on me a couple of nights before. Completely dead. So I guess that the firmware didn't solve everything... I have to use an Iphone as backup now...
[Galaxy S III General] KeesStolk:
But the million dollar question is, did you also used / flashed the latest bootloader?
[Galaxy S III General] OrangeRafi:
Did you also flashed the latest bootloader?
[Galaxy S III General] skivnit:
Custom roms dont flash new bootloader so no, he did not have it

Swyped from another galaxy
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Yes alright but what kernel were you using???
[Galaxy S III General] swedan:
I'm not a very smart man: no I didn't have the new bootloader.

Siyah 1.8.6.
[Galaxy S III General] KeesStolk:
Thank you for you answer.

So still no proof if the new bootloader worked or not for Sudden Deaths or i missed a post, also possible :).
[Galaxy S III General] darkcell:
Just want to remind...we are not supposed to argue here...dont forget that samsung should be responsible for this problem..
[Galaxy S III General] Dean-xXx:
Like most said maybe not the bootloader has the fix for SDS but the kernel most probably, so still no SDS XXELLA victims. The guy on the other page didn't have bootloader and kernel from stock rom so...
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Totally agree with you.I think that the kernel is responsible because that is the one who controls the phone...
[Galaxy S III General] pRo_lama:
So it looks very interesting. Because until now we don't have any device with SD on XXELLA new bootloader. :)
[Galaxy S III General] InfX:
This can be primarily because barely anyone is using that btl, not because it fixes the issue.
[Galaxy S III General] pRo_lama:
Look. You don't have proof that new BL fix or not fix the SD. We know only one thing that nobody with new BL have reported SD.
[Galaxy S III General] artesea:
New bootloader, but bricked phone (although it's not Sudden Death, just wacky black/white pixel screen whilst on charge, and can access Download mode fine).

However I was getting the random freezes where the only option was power down for 10 seconds or a battery pull for around a month before it happened.

When I flashed XXELLA the phone froze during the Google Signup process. In the end rolled back to a 4.1.1 ROM (XXDLJ4) hoping for some luck, but as we know the bootloader remains.

Five days later dead.

Pretty sure it's a faulty NAND, would suggest to anyone who has been getting the freezes to at least flash XXELLA, Cf-Auto Root, Triangle Away, and leave the phone rooted but stock. At least this way when the phone finally bricks there will be no sign of custom firmwares or kernals.
[Galaxy S III General] offgrey:
Well. Not exactly. He was told that what he did was dumb, not that he was dumb. But this is becoming an off-topic conversation so I'll stop. :D

Other than from the tweakers site, has anyone seen any articles where Samsung confirms that they know about the SDS problem? I mean articles that doesn't have tweakers as one of their sources (or an article as a source that links back to tweakers).

I also now have a little less respect(? I can't think of the right word.) for CNet UK after this article. Not because they reported the UK firmware as fixing SDS, because let's face it, so many news sites reported that too.. But the fact they mixed up sudden death and the exynos root exploit. :\
[Galaxy S III General] mjb:
Sure, they managed to mix it up - but I guess it's conceivable that the two are actually linked - that SDS is the result of some malware that's using the exynos-mem exploit. My curiosity around this theory is the injection vector. It is entirely possible that all those that have experienced SDS have the same app installed, or performed a similar enough action to infect themselves. It could even be an exploit to a common app, with a payload that exploit's exynos-mem.

Who knows!
[Galaxy S III General] CSeb95:
Help please

My S3 ran out of battery tonight. When I plug it in this morning the battery logo appeared but nothing more the turning circle stand still.

I waited a few minutes nothing happend.

I tried to start my phone nothing more.

I can put my phone in download mode, that works but I can't flash the XXELLA bootloader Odin asked for the pit file.

I don't have one for my S3.

In which field in Odin should I put the bootloader tar file ? If i want to flash it, should I tick "Phone boorloader update" ?

Is this behaviour related to Sudden death or not ?

Thanks

Seb
[Galaxy S III General] electrotune1200:
Absolutely brilliant journalism with rock solid re-search...:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] mjb:
Yes. My condolences.
[Galaxy S III General] electrotune1200:
Sudden Death... Sorry man...

You can try flashing everything under the sun, and it just won't flash.
[Galaxy S III General] CSeb95:
Ohhhhhh

I was just about to flash the new bootloader :(

piece of sh.. !

Thanks :(
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Go to samsung. They will replace the motherboard
[Galaxy S III General] drraptor:
Yes we had one, search again. A guy from Singapore:)

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Check again

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No, entropy512 has cleared mentioned these 2 issues aren't related:)
[Galaxy S III General] dimi22:
Does anyone notice that the screen calibration has changed after 4.1.2 update? I notice clearer colors
[Galaxy S III General] LenAsh:
Way off topic - use the thread related to your ROM - this is about the mystical Sudden Death
[Galaxy S III General] drraptor:
Yes, I compared some screenshots too, they look a lot better with 4.1.2:)

Lot less saturated
[Galaxy S III General] bruno12345:
And have we any SD with XXELLA bootloader or kernel??
[Galaxy S III General] LenAsh:
Probably. Wait and see like everyone else...
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
EDITED BECAUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.

My phone is fine!
[Galaxy S III General] masterex567:
Ok

So flashed new LLA Bootloader.

Exynos mem bug says device IS affected.

I flashed the LLA bootloader because i don't have warranty. I needed to stay on the safer side.

Is there any way we can find out what is causing the Sudden Death?

then probably compile an app that searches /emmc for that info to see whether device is affected.

Just a thought, probably its not possible.

I've tried 5 kernels, exynos mem bug still present.
[Galaxy S III General] blyx21:
Is your phone rooted or stock?

did you full wipe in stock or custom recovery?
[Galaxy S III General] r1ch04:
How long is it taking UK devices to come back from Samsung?
[Galaxy S III General] Thin_Bezel:
Well thats the problem...we don't know what is causing it :( :( :(
[Galaxy S III General] gopzzz:
Finally can some one consolidate and say a few reasons for SDS.

Reasons like kernal/firmware/bootloader version/common apps installed/rooted/which custom rom or kernal that were common in SDS handphones so that we can have more knowledge on this.
[Galaxy S III General] MuertoKo:
That is quite odd actually.... 10 minutes after flashing? That is at least statistically impossible but anyway a brick 10 minutes after a flash looks more like a bad flash than anything else...

Hope it's that and hope you get it repaired! (Not saying it's a lie of course! Just incredibly strange)

What app are you using to check? Most report wrong about the exploit, you should try to root with chainfire app, it won't simply work as it's fixed in ALL custom Kernels updated and on LLA stock. Just the app fails to check

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[Galaxy S III General] thegh0sts:
the bootloader doesn't fix the exynos bug as mentioned heaps of times: exynos is a kernel issue. if you flash the entire package it would say it's blocked. CM10.1 even fixed the issue in their kernel.
[Galaxy S III General] offgrey:
Use this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2050297 and try to root. If it succeeds, then I guess you didn't get the LLA kernel.. If that's possible.

Note: Just realized you only flashed the bootloader. thegh0sts is right. If you aren't flashing the kernel, you didn't patch the exploit.
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
EDITED:

my phone is fine and i am not touching the new bootloader no matter why it was released. in my brain it does'nt make any sense that a bootloader can fix the SDS and in this life i am not doing things that does'nt make sense and based on "assumptions and speculations". end of story.
[Galaxy S III General] 75markus:
damn ! i bricked my phone :eek: LOL
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
sh.it! i told you not to!
[Galaxy S III General] 75markus:
made my day :highfive:
[Galaxy S III General] qavro:
Thank you. I am trying to laugh but i end up in crying.

people tend to missunderstand the meaning of word DEATH. This assuming that they know what SUDDEN and SYNDROME means...furthermore, the new bootloader will definitely fix nothing of SDS: once your phone is dead the new bootloader is worthless. The whole army of praisers about the wonder ELLA bootloader should write PREVENT (at most). Because fix it means something else!

For God sake, SDS is when your phone is acting like there is no power source at all! For the other syndromes, semi-dead (yeah, how stupid is that?) half-life, logo-only, download only, whatever other crap, PLEASE do us all a favor and call it SDS just AFTER your phone happily dies! Not before.

That being said, i wonder how many S3 are actually end up in dead. Dead meaning what i suppose everybody should understand DEATH.

i am about to unsubscribe this thread like i did with the other one. The other one have a great title though. I am heading towards the worse day since i have discovered XDA...

p.s. Sorry all. i am old and my nerves are not as good as they were...
[Galaxy S III General] cristian274:
hey guys! I've read through this thread and realized that most of the case of SDS were caused by charging. So, I'm wondering why you guys don't use extra battery kit for charging purpose? I'm sure that will eliminate SDS mostly caused by charging.
[Galaxy S III General] Kirotan:
Mine just went. Notification light was flashing, but screen wouldn't turn on, so I pulled the battery. After that, nothing. No boot at all.

Made: China

Battery: Cell made in Japan, Assembled in China

Firmware: Liquid Smooth R9 4.1.2

Download: Negative

Contacting expansys about possible warranty.
[Galaxy S III General] dimi22:
Black clipping ?
[Galaxy S III General] NorthernNoel:
My phone wasn't charging at the time it happened. Just went completely dead mid afternoon about half an hour after sending a text. I think it's more coincidence that people's phones are charging. Probably more to do with the phone not being in use and it never waking from sleep.
[Galaxy S III General] vasp3690:
I will be hopefully getting back my phone in a week or so. Mine wasn't dead but needed a new motherboard nonetheless. I hope they will give it back with all the latest samsung firmware upgrades and stock kernel. Once its back I will report.

Using a i9305 now as I have to have a phone.
[Galaxy S III General] wrbex:
You got replacement device, or bought another one?
[Galaxy S III General] MuertoKo:
Glad you were joking then :D I might end up quiting this thread as well, too many newbies reporting wrong, too much nonsense and too few properly reported things...

This is indeed a SDS, no download no anything, hope you get it back!

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[Galaxy S III General] Giagio:
Italians Victims

Italian Victims: there's a fb site 'bout S3 sudden death.

Search for SamsungS3SiiiMorteImprovvisaSuddenDeath on facebook path
[Galaxy S III General] x3sed:
Finger cross since I have no warranty.
[Galaxy S III General] t0n0n:
My dad's phone died last night. Bought it 2 or 3 weeks after release.

Battery assembled in China, cell made at Korea. The phone seems to be assembled at Samsung factory at Campinas.

We will try to get a new one via warranty. That phone was never modded, not even rooted.

We are at São Paulo, Brazil.
[Galaxy S III General] alformiga:
My S3 died too, hope to get it ok soon...
[Galaxy S III General] vadonka:
exynos mem bug checker app not compatible with the XXELLA firmware, reported false positive all the time!

dont trust that app any more.
[Galaxy S III General] sak500:
If you already upgraded the bootloader which "supposedly" fixes this issue then pls use the phone to max and charge overnight. Let's see how long it lasts and that will prove if sammy are lying or not.

Pls do so the above if you are covered under warranty and dont blame me for SDS.

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Goodluck, i dont remember which version i but mine was bought on may 24th. It died on dec 27th. The replacement version is 1.5.