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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rmp5s:
I wasn't thrilled about the glass back but, after seeing it, I think it looks cool as hell. I just put a squishy bumper case on it and I'm going to call it good. If nothing else at all, the piece of a Nexus 4 disassembly video I saw showed the back coming off quite easily. Couple screws and a guitar pick/thumb nail was all it took. Should be easy to replace if something happens.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
By law, it's them that have to prove it that it's not inherited fault. At least in UK. Glass doesn't crack like that upon impact. This one looks like it's been over tempered.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joostburg:
Broke mine 5 minutes ago, it felt out of my pocket. Hope that we can replace the broken back covers :victory:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Remcotjuuh:
After 1,5 months glass is still fine and my soft back should come in in the next few days. I'd say I'm happy (knock on the wood).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ManMOuntain:
Nearly two months passed and rear glass remains perfectly fine. Still loving the phone :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saj326:
What if the phone arrived damaged, they've written on the warranty booklet that the phone should arrive with free cosmetic damages, and therefore it is not covered within the warranty.

They have issued a replacement phone, and requested me to send mine back in which case they will asses the damage to see if it is covered within the warranty, and if not they will charge me with the full cost of the replacement phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
The problem is that there are no replacement parts available. Yes, I just broke mine.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donwhann:
had my phone 2 days and just noticed a nasty looking scratch on the back. god knows how it got there, didnt notice it yesterday. looks like it could pop at anytime........gutted...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beegbear:
dropped my N4 yesterday from about 4 ft. dropped it so hard that the diztroinc hard cover shell cracked. not even a scratch on the phone!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dokukinoko:
I've had my phone since December 7th (two months) and I still have the stock factory protectors on it without much peeling even :o. Just some scratches on those, but don't think anything bad has happened underneath yet.

But I'm always leery about the speaker area on the back, as that's where a lot of people say their phone cracks.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekillingtree:
i've had mine about 2 weeks(?) and it fell about 2ft. gorilla glass? pffft.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scream4cheese:
Just wanted to put this out there. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=Y2KaTAm4KoA&NR=1
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cile90:
Month now...S-line(house) and diztronic hard case(work)...hits, bumps no damage...still waiting for the drop lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekillingtree:
i just got an RA# for my return, does anyone have an idea of how much it'll cost to replace the back of my phone in the US?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patstock11:
Just got my quote from lg for the back. $64 shipped. Hoping I actually get my phone back though, I only had it 5 days.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Br1cK'd:
After having seen my coworker drop his in the parking lot and crack both the front and back glass at the same time, I ordered the bumper with mine. Been a week and a half, had my first drop yesterday, not once, but twice, and the bumper definitely served its purpose. Happy to report no damage. My hard case comes in tomorrow.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach that same man to use Google Search, and he can answer his own questions for the rest of his life.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] O-H-I-O:
I've heard LG charges $40 to open it up and inspect it and $100 to replace rear glass.

Sent from my Nexus 4 ParanoidAndroid
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psychonut:
Got the bumper on day 1 and haven't taken it off since :D.

Definitely wasn't going to risk getting the glass shattered from drops, after previous bad experiences with my Samsung SII T989 ( Nothing happened to the case, thank god, except for a few dents on the sides)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekillingtree:
hrm, well, i guess i'll send it out if it's gonna cost about $65 bucks. i was tempted to just replace it on my own once the replacement backs showed up. we'll see though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CandyAndy:
I must be a lucky bastard: I have dropped my 2 times, slept on it once and once slipped on ice and fell on it. Not a single scratch yet. But I am guessing that with this Raye it won't hold until summer. Let's see
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PR0XiMA:
Actually I have managed to scratch my Nexus 4's back... My cousin dropped it while playing a game and now it has a giant scratch... Have to find a case...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Br1cK'd:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AOB2XQY/ref=mw_dp_ra1?pi=SL500_SY125

Covers full back and around all edges on front. Good feel to the case, nice and cheap so I bought two. Already have a couple of drops with it, and the N4 is no worse for wear.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach that same man to use Google Search, and he can answer his own questions for the rest of his life.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vickpick:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FULL-BLACK-...511348?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a5d465f4

got it for 5 bucks.. pretty much an otterbox
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crimsonred36:
I got the Rearth Ringke SLIM case for my Nexus 4 as soon as I got it. Its a really snug fit, and it barely adds any bulk. Looks pretty fantastic too. Might protect from some light bumps/drops, probably not hard ones though. But I went for style/less bulk instead of more protection.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Remcotjuuh:
For less than three bucks protecting the front, sides and back :)

http://dx.com/p/s-style-protective-...05?rt=1&p=2&m=2&r=3&k=1&t=1&s=173143&u=172705
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekillingtree:
ended up grabbing a replacement back on ebay for $56 w/free shipping. :D.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JknRich:
I have this on the back off mine. Cost me £10. Best case I have ever brought.

It is a bit bulky. Does protect the front though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace_apr27:
I've had mine for about 2 weeks. So far so good. I bought a scratch guard set (front+back) off amazon. It's going to be here this week, apparently...

As soon as i got the phone, the first thing I bought was a simple pseudo-leather pouch for it. This is probably the ONLY phone that I haven't dropped even once in two weeks! :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vujkovicv:
Smashed

I dropped my from the lap as I was getting out of the car and the back cracked. I plan on fixing it but it's not bad at all and it fell on concrete. This happened today
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EffnNice:
I am planning on running this phone with just the bumper i ordered from amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Google-Nexus-...qid=1362537757&sr=8-2&keywords=bumper+nexus+4)

anyone think i will be fine? i want to keep the back and the nice touch in the front screen X_X
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdcream123:
I have that same case. I haven't had any problems. Paid $8 US from Amazon
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basketbob951:
Hi guys,

Just ordered on eBay a full back panel with glass, antennas etc for 60 bucks

Any tips to make the switch with the shattered one, and avoid any mistakes ?

Thanks !

:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lokenok:
small crack
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottx .:
Mines still perfect. I have it in a poetic bumper case.

I'm ordering a seidio convert case soon as I have the extra fifty bucks. Looks very strong.

I am so very careful with mine. I used a dollar bill to make a back for my bumper case so the back won't get scratched.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
You really can't go wrong. Undo two screws, then use a plastic implement to unclip and prise away the damaged back.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
How legit are these replacements? Completely indistinguishable?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basketbob951:
Ok Thanks, I'll give it a try tonight. Im quite well equipped so..

They are directly from LG, as seller said. He joined an invoice. There is an LG sticke ron it. They look pretty much the same to me. However mine is completely shattered so I have no device to compare to on my desk ! :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Thanks, I have another question and a possible request for those who have an extra back. Has anyone tried to just take out the broken glass out and put a skin directly on the plastic? I think I might do that, but I'd like to know first how hard it would be to take off just the glass shards. Right now mine is shattered, but I had put a screen protector on, so the glass is contained. I can't put one of the dbrand skins over the protector, but I can't take it off without the glass getting all messed up, so I'd like to know if I can just take it all out. If anyone could test this with their broken extra backs it would be great, but of course please be careful not to cut yourself.

EDIT: Damn, so if I'm understanding this post correctly, what I want is impossible cause the glass is all there is, I thought it was glued to a plastic back plate.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billy_overheat:
back in malaysia, someone broke their front glass and LG charged him for RM350 which is about USD112. not sure about back glass though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
I have a Nexus from the first batch in November my back has also cracked now.

No drops or any damage caused by miss use, like many others I generally pop mine into a empty jeans pocket when out and about exactly like I did with my iphone 4 for the previous couple of years so no difference whatsoever the only difference is the back of the nexus is a poor or thinner type of glass than used by apple and cannot deal with any stress.

I noticed last week what I first thought was a scratch across the top right corner but on closer inspection you can see it’s actually a faint crack.

I’ve now ordered a replacement from LG for €50,00 and this should be here in a couple of days, hopefully LG have noticed the failure rate of these and have improved the strength of the current Nexus 4s and the no doubt thousands of replacements they are now selling , I live in hope
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sarkozy:
No issues here. Phone stays in a ringke slim most of the time, but it's had a few naked falls onto wooden floors and no worse for wear.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 433Mhz:
btw, is there a cheap alternative to replacing the glass with the original back? Rubber or plastic shouldn't be more than a couple bucks and you won't have to put a stupid large case on your phone anymore...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BJH1412:
I replaced the back on mine today without a hitch. However, the data reception has gone down dramatically. I used to get between 4-8 Mbps and am now stuck at 0.07 or less (cf. my screenshot). Has anybody experienced a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashishv:
Maybe operater issue as upload speed is still the same(almost).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BJH1412:
It happened right after I switched it back on so I doubt that's it. I've also been in 3 different cities since (train back from work) and it hasn't changed anything.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ogblaz:
My back is like new but the chrome is scratched badly, deep scratch is there a way to fix it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
I ordered a screen protector front and back and a bumper case for my phone and they came in before the phone came in so I put them on as soon as I got the phone so my back looks brand new.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottx .:
Don't you people know to be careful? Did you all not pay $400 for it like me? I'm sorry but when I spend $400 on a device IM DAMN CAREFUL WITH IT.

Mine won't ever get cracked or hurt. I don't let anyone touch it and I'm super careful with it. I'd break someones fingers if they touched it. (I've read that people claim a friend dropped it but I know the truth!)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ugotproblemz:
Had one of the first batches of N4...back glass is perfectly fine here. dropped a few times. but only my bumper took a hit.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altqq:
Might i suggest the best buy geek squad protection program for those worried about cracking their phone like me. Its 9.99/month or 169/2 years. No claims limit, no deductible, cover almost everything except for theft. I think its a better investment then what square trade offer.

I used to have an iphone4 which i baby with cases after cases and i just don't wanna feel like that with the nexus 4 especially with the beautiful glass back.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SneakyGuyDavid:
i HATE cases , but this phone is too amazing to let get damaged , so i went on ebay and bought a sub<10 dollar case , and a 2 dollar screen protector . works pretty great , its safe to say this phone it will be ATLEAST 9 out of 10 when its time for a new phone
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fencesitter:
Andy, yes, the glass is just glued to the plastic back. Well, the NFC and Qi wireless charger loops are also adhered to the glass.

So, what you'd need to do is pull off the very thin (and easily torn) black sticker from the loops in the center of the glass, then remove the loops, being careful not to damage either the copper traces or the vias in them (or don't worry about it if you're not planning on using NFC or wireless charging). After that, you can pretty freely remove the other broken pieces of glass. Remember to retrieve the speaker grille and the camera gasket.

The black sticker is actually copper tape- I assume for EMI shielding to keep the radiated noise down. Hopefully a tear in it isn't a Bad Thing- I completely tore mine early on, so I don't know enough to know if there is a problem.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
I've just received my new back from LG

No wonder these are cracking there is no way this is glass its way to light and thin, its a very thin plastic back, tap yours and hear the noise!

It will probably fair better in a drop test but any pressure will definitely put too much stress on the very thin plastic used which is why the high rate of failures.

One of the first cracked backs happened in November to a guy who went to the movies and placed is phone in his lose fitting jeans pocket and when he got home he noticed it was cracked, everyone said he must have knocked it or bumped into something but he swore he hadn’t.

This is the only way mine can have cracked, I carry mine in a empty pocket when out, it’s never been dropped or abused in anyway, no scratches anywhere, it looks like a brand new phone with a split/crack in the back panel we all think/thought is glass, but I’m telling you it isn’t

Its bloody cheap plastic!!!

I’m off to buy a hard case now and recommend you all do the same :mad:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Haven't you seen all the shattered backs? Plastic doesn't shatter, and glass cracks easily too. Of course it's glass, only it seems it's not gorilla glass 2, judging from the rate it breaks compared to the front glass.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
I have and when you see the bare back off the phone and feel the weight its plastic.

I’ve searched through pictures of the shattered backs and all the ones I can find are cracks all the pieces are in place I can’t find one with glass bits missing like glass would?

Ive even watched the drop tests

Google it and prove me wrong?

Until recently everyone had to send off their phone to be repaired so not many people would have thought much of it, looking at the LG back I have been sent its plastic, there is no weight to it at all.

It feels like plastic it sounds like plastic, I thought LG had sent me a duff back but on inspection it’s what’s on the original.

I’m no engineer but this is thin clear brittle plastic
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Since when was glass a super heavy thing? If it's thin, it's not going to be heavier than plastic.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
Glass is a lot heavier than plastic due to higher density. But it's a geometrical progression of weight in relation to volume. At volumes used on the phone, human being is unlikely to notice the difference. Increase the volume and it's completely different story.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
As others pointed above, you can't tell just by weight if the glass is thin enough, which it is.

Shattered is shattered, there are pictures even in this thread. Also, plastic scratches much easier than glass, which is perfectly consistent with this phone's back.

I'm not the one making the new claim without any evidence whatsoever. Plus, mine itself is shattered.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
I have seen many shattered pictures but again they all look like shattered plastic, you say yours is shattered, have you got shards of glass?

If you have I´m wrong

Ive looked through the specs and actually cant see LG or Google stating it is glass, reading the forums people including me thought it was glass, after seeing it touching it, I am sure its not but like I said im no engineer
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Yes, but even if I didn't, (again) plastic doesn't shatter. If something is shattered, there are shards, or else it wouldn't be shattered. Shards are a product of something shattering. I have the shards contained with a screen protector, but I added some packing tape to the border where some small shards could shift loose.

This guy did something similar: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35467035#post35467035, but mine is shattered way worse.

While it doesn't mean much nowadays, all tech sites also reported this to be glass. The source that it is Gorilla Glass 2 though is a little shaky. From what I can tell the only source is the Verge video where Matias Duarte says it is, in passing. I'm not convinced it is.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
Have you actually ordered the new back to replace yours?

Mine looks like cracked glass fitted to the phone but when you see the new replacement you then see its plastic, there really is nothing to suggest its anything else.

I haven't changed it yet because its so flimsy it will break again, my thinking is that because its PLASTIC the original can stay in place until more damage is done or I give to someone else when I upgrade.

I´m hoping someone who actually has taken the back off can confirm what im saying rather than people just looking at the cracks saying it looks like glass so it is?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Just do a scratch test on it, simples.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
After you :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Right now replacement backs are too expensive for me. I'm exploring other options, and if any work out, I'll be glad to share. For the moment I got the shards well contained and a Ringke Slim case over it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duquesa:
I would recommend keeping it that way, I´m gutted at spending €50 on this back.

I intend to leave my original on as long as possible with an hard case to help stop the back from flexing.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RavenII:
It only took 10 days...on Easter...was passing it over to my wife's uncle to check it out...and it slips out of my hand...dropping on a crystal bowl that looks almost identical to the one attached...I look at the edges and think..."Oh, good, at least nothing happened"...and handed it to him...when I got it back, I look at the back and......well, there's just no way I'm spending $60 more to replace the back. I'm actually trying to find a polycarbonate replacement...which they should have done in the first place...

There USED to be a kick ass XtremeGuard skin on there, it looked like glass...now there's a lumpy DBrands skin on there...(leather...)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ibarra21:
Using the phone for a month, dropped it once from my pocket to the floor with the Rearth SLIM case. Maybe 10-15 inch high. I panicked, checked the front immediately, no cracks. Removed the case to check the back, no cracks either. So all in all, still good!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hipocrazy:
I have the same case, happy to hear it's holding up! I've yet to drop my device. yet ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
To the guy who mentioned the back being plastic, I thought you were crazy at first but now I'm reallyyyy convinced that it is. We need a pole or something. Tap the screen on your phone with your fingernail, then do the same to the back. The back of mine sounds incredibly similar to plexiglass/lexan. Looking at some of the scratches on it, its even more convincing. Glass doesn't scratch like this. BTW I have the two nubs on mine. Can someone without the nubs do the tap test? Does it have a dense glass sound or hollow plastic sound?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
I'd recommend a mybat tuff hybrid case $10 on eBay, check it out

"Head&Pepsi"
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lyall29:
The back cover is plastic with a very thin piece of glass covering the plastic. If it was lexan it would not break so easily. I've had the back off several times and its very flimsy/delicate. I would much rather have a plastic back with no flimsy piece of glass on top, but that's just my opinion.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] username8611:
Ah ok that makes perfect sense. I was almost getting excited that they revised it with lexan... more durable but more scratches, id still probably prefer it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyokeun1234:
My back is still going strong! I've been using this with official bumper case along with best skins ever protector on the both front and back of the device and I guess that gave enough protection to survive many falls. Very happy for now :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RavenII:
For those looking at Lexan as an alternative... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40001483#post40001483
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] berendspruijt:
:(

ok this is a bit of a disappointment..

was watching a youtube clip out in the sun.

apparently back got to hot, now there is a crack running from the led to the left side of the back...

been handling my nexus like it was my baby even have a gadget shield protector over it...

o% change warrenty covers that?

anyway think i might get a dbrank skin to cover the crack.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ikarma:
My back glass has a hairline fracture. I never dropped the phone. I had it charging overnight got a phone call and answered it. Hung up then heard 3 clicks coming from the camera area.... Sounded like a hardware camera shudder. Them the phone reset! When it rebooted I heard the three clicks again. Looked at camera lens and just above the LED there is a hairline fracture across the width of the phone?????!!!!??!?!?!?!??!?! What the?????
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Visa Declined:
Sure, they're going to accept responsibility that you dropped your phone and broke it. :eek:

Can we make people fill out some sort of questionnaire before they're allowed to post here?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laynee1:
I have something near my camera lense... I call it something 'cause im not sure if that's a hairline crack or scratch
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ste1164:
Mines fine at the moment. No marks :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ManMOuntain:
Nearly five months on, not a scratch (silicon gel cover and screen protector).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkrai:
thats it!

just bought this phone n all this is scary

i am buying a ballistic case :( :eek: