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[Nexus 4 General] felito6985:
After a few cycles, my battery has also improved greatly. Happy Turkey Day!
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Seems a little better. Still, this isn't good considering the phone never left the house this whole time. It was on WiFi 100% of the time. Not good at all.
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
Your joking right?
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Is today opposite day??
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
I was expecting a little bit better than "mediocre" battery life -.-

The iPhone 5 has 1440mAh battery, and it smokes this phone. It's also faster at just about everything too. Android needs serious optimization, not "Project Butter" crap gimmicks.

Dual core your say? It smoked the Gnex too...

No multitasking? I never leave a single thing running in the background aside from Skype (which also runs on iPhone). I have no widgets at all. In fact, I have nothing on any of my homescreens. Not 1 icon

Bigger screen? The iPhone's screen is a lot brighter than this one, and even if that wasn't enough. It still shouldn't get better battery life considering it's battery is 45% smaller, let alone get better battery life.

Google needs to make some serious improvements. Android battery life is pathetic at best. The multitasking excuse just isn't gonna cut it anymore, considering the iPhone can play music from Google's own YouTube in the background, while Android can't :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Now I understand why your previous post didn't make any sense.
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Get a Note 2 and use it FULL THROTTLE all day long. Get home with at least 30% left.

Android is fine. You just need to select the right phone.

(I own a N4 and GN2)
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Cramming a 3000mAh battery to get decent battery life doesn't mean that Android is fine. That's the equivalent of saying "this car's gas mileage isn't a problem. We just put a huge gas tank, and its fine." :rolleyes:

The iPhone is able to achieve that performance with a 1440mAh battery. How about we call out Android's flaws so that Google improves them instead of being fanboys? Android is just horribly inefficiency, and the multitasking excuse is getting REALLY old (directed at others on this forum)
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
No. Androids battery life is crap.

Not everyone should have to carry a mini tablet around to get decent battery life on Android.

Battery life is something no one really wants to focus on. We need MAXX HD battery in the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] astalavista_thes:
Have you ever thought about screen size? I am just saying...
[Nexus 4 General] ericshmerick:
Why are people touting the holy iPhone in this thread again? Did I miss something? If Android isn't for you then there's the door...
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
I could be wrong but I have seen that wake lock before and I think it relates to Google now / Google search.

I have never had it that high before - I would try a reboot and see if it shows up again. If it really bothers you, you could disable Google now or use system tuner then go to start up, find Google search and find the entry that says something about entries refresh. That got rid of it for me.

I assume your Google now cards just don't refresh until you open Google now. Shrug

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I have also had Android OS high on my battery list when I was on the first version of kit kat. I think 160o or something. Then recently I did a complete wipe and flashed the newest version 160s maybe, anyway my Android OS usage is way lower. Could be a fluke though first charge cycle.

Android OS I think is kernel wake locks? My job gives me a lot of wifi wake locks- suspend back off always is high on better battery stats and when it is my Android OS battery usage is also very high.

And as far as Google location issue, that's from Google now. You could disable Google now I guess. Also you could click into Google settings and make sure your location history and reporting is off. Could help a little
[Nexus 4 General] shadehh:
Omg my battery is so good with the newest version of android out of the freaking blue! Twitter, hangout, browsing, xda, YouTube

EDIT: using art
[Nexus 4 General] andyinno:
I'm on Gravity rom. It had the better battery life I noticed till now on all the rom I tryed. Stock and Modded.

After all day I'm at 70%. The worse app that need battery are google location features. As usual.
[Nexus 4 General] tlf55:
Well Google Now is currely off, never activated it cause i don't need it .. so i don't thing it come from there .. (also got NLPLocation.. GoogleLocationManager/ GCMService but i think these 3 are ok .. aren't they ?)
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
Yeah I don't know I would just disable it through system tuner then. I know the way it sounds its something to do with Google search or now, who knows maybe its from the search bar widget.

The NLP location thing is a pita. I can't figure that one out without disabling WiFi \ cellular location under location settings.

I won't have much NLP wake lock for days then one day it will be silly high for no reason. I come to just stop looking at better battery stats because overall those wakelocks don't seem to take much battery.
[Nexus 4 General] Good Guy Mark:
Really crappy battery life on completely stock 4.4

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ArtG818:
Do you use facebook or instagram ? i get about the same on mine

This is pure BS -_- any way to improve the battery life?

Everything is stock with GEL
[Nexus 4 General] jocke_lulle:
For me the battery on stock 4.4 also seems a lot worse than on 4.3 :/ My phone also gets kind of hot on 4.4.
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
I'm on stock 4.4 (OTA not flashed) and the battery life has been excellent for me. Much better than 4.3.
[Nexus 4 General] Markoni78:
4.4 impressions

Had a massive drain on 4.3 - slimport wakelock, powerManagerService...slimport was the worst. my phone used to last 20h with 1h SOT. Awake most of the time although I didn't use it (Android OS had the biggest %, kept phone awake for ~7h).

On 4.4 first day (fully charged) was so great I thought my problems are gone. 28 hours on, 30% wifi on, mostly 2g, 4h SOT. Android OS kept phone awake for 52 mins.

Day two...started as a drain but then in Power Toolbar I unchecked the sync icon, mobile data was on and so was WiFi. Seemed ok. I went out, turned off WiFi and noticed now that the OS kept phone awake for over 2 hours so far...

Better Battery Stats don't work for me on 4.4 nor does Wakelock detector so I'm unsure which wake lock is the issue. (Suggestions on 4.4 working wakelock detector appreciated..).

Too early to say, will keep an eye for next few charges (I'm accustomed to watching the battery level as on 4.3 it as a nightmare...)
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
What the hell are you guys doing with crappy SOT on screenTIMES lol? 100% brightness? Disable location that crappy Google now experience disable sync use 10 percent brightness

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[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
In settings> location go to mode and select battery saving.

Give it some time and check your battery stats if it goes any better.

For me this worked great and all strange wakelocks disappeared.

Unleashed by my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
How does it work?
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
It is said in the settings. By pressing that option you deny gps use for ubication setting, so u save battery. With the high-precission mode you use EVERYTHING to determine your possition
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
No more than 3.5~ hrz SOT on 4.4.
[Nexus 4 General] drejohnson:
My battery life is pretty much hit or miss. I've been getting the best results on stock 4.4 with hells core kernel
[Nexus 4 General] davidsteele1975:
So far I'm happy with the battery life on 4.4, but it's early days yet. Feels like an incremental improvement over 4.3, but 4.3 would wakelock out on me with little provocation. I'll see what 4.4 is like but so far, so good.
[Nexus 4 General] ashkan_mc:
I remember I had more than 4.5 hrs SOT on 4.2.2 but now with 4.4 I have 3.5 hrs.
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
4.4, graphically (Edit : 4% left with 4.5 Hours of SOT ; Hoorrrayyyyyy!) -
[Nexus 4 General] mfabruno:
I think it was a bless the 4.4 update to the guys with the wakelock problem, i am so happy right with 4h sot and 2days of battery using wifi and 3g several times!
[Nexus 4 General] frisky_bg:
How about talk time? I easily get 4h of SOT, but an hour of talktime will kill twice the more battery than screen will.
[Nexus 4 General] Ebenesh:
NOT PHOTOSHOPed in any way

I got 7hrs and 3 mins with 7% Remaining

ROM : Nexus 5 PORT

Kernel : AK 207KK

3G : Never

Wifi : Yes

Used whatsapp, MX Player (9episodes of Samurai X = 20mins each ) and a tad of games(20mins)
[Nexus 4 General] rjunraj:
Pathetic ,worse, battery life on stock 4.4

Lost 8% in just 26 minutes with 21second screen on

4.4+franko+greenify
[Nexus 4 General] davidov2009:
Did you do a full wipe before upgrading? For a couple of days I had a stock 4.4 setup + Franco kernel giving really horrible battery life, especially on 3G (standby drain 4%/hrs at least, in spite of excellent reception). Listing to Spotify (offline) drained 10%/hr even without any screen on time!

Now I've switched to stock kernel I get great battery life, like most other users are reporting. About 1-2%/hr 3G standby, 0.5% or less on WiFi, Spotify off-line listening with screen off takes a sick low 3%/hr (incl. standby). I also ditched the default .97 radio for .48, because 0.84+ radio's are giving battery drains with virtual providers (in Europe anyway).
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
Yeah guys, just disable everything that makes your smartphone a smartphone and dim your screen to almost no light at all and your phone will last for days! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Give me a break.

You are free to do what you want but at this time you are not going to find a thin, hi spec phone that isn't going to suffer shortened battery life when running a bunch of background stuff.

I get decent battery with mine by syncing only what I need. Of course I am rarely more than a few hours away from a charger anyhow. I don't really get the big battery complaints. It is not like most are not in cars, offices, etc at least some of the time.

I'm happy to have a thin and light phone. If I know I'm going to be in the woods then I will turn things off to save battery. Otherwise, like I said. I just sync what I need.

What exactly do you expect for $350?

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] davidov2009:
I'm guessing you either misquoted me (instead of someone else) or didn't understand what I said. I said I had quite bad battery life running stock 4.4 combined with Franco's (r194) kernel (who had a great kernel on 4.3 and earlier btw, so I guess this will be temporary), but this improved massively when I switched to the stock kernel, in accordance with the improved battery life on 4.4 that most other xda'ers are reporting.

In both instances, I hadn't turned any 'background stuff' off, on the contrary; I was running full Google sync, location services, WhatsApp, Facebook (+Messenger), weather updates etc. on 3G and Wifi. I only disable Google Now; in my experience it doesn't take a huge cut of battery life, but since the Now services are quite limited in my region (the Netherlands), they're rendering the service more annoying than usefull.

I think the N4 offers quite adequate (though not great) battery life, esp. when considering the price/quality-ratio. The only other aspects the N4 lets down on are the camera, which again is not horrible, and the non-integrated GSM/3G-modem, giving rise to battery drain problems in area's with bad reception/when traveling. Aside from these drawbacks (and every phone has some, albeit not the same) the Nexus 4 is awesomely quick and responsive, good looking, has a sharp screen, runs stock android, gets quick updates, has a huge dev/mod scene etc. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone of it's generation, regardless of price.
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
Kitkat glory! My n4 has never seen these SOT times before Lol. All stock, ota 4.4, auto brightness, everything syncing, WiFi 90%,
[Nexus 4 General] Impo5sible:
Guys, do you realize that battery life really depends on signal strength? Look on all pictures in this thread.

Everyone who has long battery life has also good signal strength...

Don't blame android's updates, because they're what you've been whining for a long time... :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] andrewk2x:
Wrong thread..
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
Of course it does, also depends what signal they are on if 3g/4g/LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
It's a combination of many things but yes signal strength is a big part of it. It's always somewhat of a crap shoot when a new Android version comes out because of newer radios that are included. Sometimes they are better and as in my case they are not as good as 4.3 JWR66Y. The last stock Jellybean build my SOT would be around 6-6.5. With Kit Kat I get about 5. Not bad. Not complaining. It's just because of the new radio. Battery life should get better as updates with new radios are released:good:

I wasn't trying to derail your trollercoaster ride but you brought up a good point.;)
[Nexus 4 General] rjunraj:
Krt16s +franko r195+100 uv+no sync+25% brightness+google now off+no widgets +greenified all apps even whatsapp

And still i m getting pathetic battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
This only means you need to change/try some other ROM+KERNEL combo. :good:

PSX+Franco

Or

Purity+Franco
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Upgraded 4.4 over 4.3 (no wipe) and getting a nice drain of 1.3%/hour in standby with Wi-Fi on and all applications in normal sync.

Stock Rom + Franko Plus 194, -150 UV

Unleashed by my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] rjunraj:
Thanks mate

Just noticed that battery drains quickly when i am at office only.

So i think i should blame the network only
[Nexus 4 General] smoka206:
I have a bad signal at home, I don't use data at home so I switch to 2g and the signal is a a lot better.
[Nexus 4 General] zevim2005:
Best battery i had in 4.4 with ak 207 and stock rom!!

11% left
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
I have no idea how people get 6~ hours SOT, especially with stock rom. I have RMA'd 4 nexus 4s already and each one of them never exceeded the 4.5hrz sot mark.
[Nexus 4 General] zevim2005:
me too,i think thats because whatsapp!
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
It's not that. When idling the consumption is normal, but when the screen is on, without auto brightness and extremely low setting, it drinks the battery.
[Nexus 4 General] grgana:
guys i flashed factory image krt16s this noon, and i see in battery stats that evrery single second scrren is on, phone is awake, is this normal??

i dont use art for now,i have root and CWM but everything is stock. It have not been that way on JB, at least custom roms
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
From yesterday - Wi-Fi on, high accuracy location mode, sync on, ~80% screen brightness. Stock KitKat + faux mainline kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] attaint:
How do we check how much percentage of battery is being consumed every hour when idle?
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
Theorically with "wakelock detector" but stopped working for me since I updated to kit kat. I haven't needed it anymore since then :D
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Betterbatterystats 1.15 RC4 and newer is working fine with 4.4.
[Nexus 4 General] :
i'm still a fairly new member so can't post images, but my battery life is at 27%, 15h of usage. about 3h screen on time, and been listening to music the whole time, so mediaserver drained a large part of the battery. most of the time wi fi and 3g, on PSX + PSK. can this be considered good battery life or not? I personally think it is but i was just wondering.
[Nexus 4 General] Vlad Paul:
5 hours SOT on kitkat stock, stock kernel ... and still had 17% battery power. I think catch 6 hours SOT until full discharging ... but I do not let the battery discharge so much. I use ART, launcher Nova Beta, Wi-Fi on all day, location in mod battery saver, brightness on aprox. 10-20 %, faebook app all day, some browsing, little youtube watching and viber calls. Im satisfied with new android update.
[Nexus 4 General] sherbibv:
how's your signal ? I seem to have some signal problems , meaning i only get 3 bars instead of 4 . I live in an area with pretty good signal.:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] ronakchavan:
Rom : cataclysm 4.4

Kernel : Hellscore b42

Frequency : 193-1500

Governor : interactive

Network : 3G till battery discharged to 10% then on 2G

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] christophs01:
nice results!
[Nexus 4 General] Vlad Paul:
I have full signal.
[Nexus 4 General] ziovelvet:
I'm still with 4.2.2. I'm using unofficial AOPK Rom + _motley kernel
[Nexus 4 General] ph10m:
Happy to see these results! I'm going to get a N4 to replace with my Note 2 and was wondering how the battery life was. This battery life is amazing, but the N4 is just so much prettier to look at :)
[Nexus 4 General] Nosferatuu:
Just simply don't do that. If your N2 works just fine there's nothing more in N4. And also lots of people can get long battery life even they use custom kernels and roms. If you have said I'm gonna replace for example iPhone 4s I'd say go ahead and do it but Note 2 no need man.

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[Nexus 4 General] cincibluer6:
Nice stats. I get roughly the same on Hellscore with stock 4.4.

Can I ask you though what font you are using there? Is that specific to cataclysm?
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
If I am not wrong that is Sansation font. You will get the zip file in themes and app section. I am currently using it. :)
[Nexus 4 General] ronakchavan:
It's sensation font. You will get it in the themes n app section
[Nexus 4 General] mor_1228:
let me warn you i am using both mobiles after using note 2 camera u will cry. nexus 4 camera sucks big time.:crying:
[Nexus 4 General] cincibluer6:
Thank you guys. Believe it or not I haven't actually been to the Themes and Apps section in here, haha. Lot of cool stuff in there.
[Nexus 4 General] torstenconrad:
Bump.

A great thread probably forgotten. Keep it alive people, this is something so many of us love to discuss :)
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
Yes..Very good thread indeed but people here are busy updating their ROMs with kernel.. Even devs are busy updating their kernel.. So let Google get stable releasing nightlies..:D.

This thread will surely rise again..;)
[Nexus 4 General] Italico:
Hello everyone.

Here's my result. SlimKat 4.4.1 Beta with Semaphore N4 1.85.
[Nexus 4 General] mor_1228:
where is the result ?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Matrix v12

Purity rom
[Nexus 4 General] Italico:
Maybe there are problems with the screenshots? Because I can see them
[Nexus 4 General] nickslg:
4.4.2 seems pretty fair on the battery I'm hoping to get 2 days before battery runs flat
[Nexus 4 General] ufukcoskun:
Which rom, kernel?
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Since it's unlikely that such nice standby drainage will remain (this on fresh 4.4), I have to share this. Excited to see how wakelocks fare on KitKat, Google services were a nightmare on 4.3 and I replaced what I could. But never got a standby flat line like this.
[Nexus 4 General] nickslg:
rom REDKAT 4.4.2 ....semaphore kernel 1.85
[Nexus 4 General] l_npl:
Auto brightness (color and gamma control: superamoled profile)

Vibration on (70%)

kernel (hells core): under volt CPU (-35) min CPU (195) Max CPU (1350)

2G network / WiFi always on

Its only 7 hours. Because I'm testing and looking for best battery result.
[Nexus 4 General] zevim2005:
Battery on stock+ak 4.4.1
[Nexus 4 General] zevim2005:
google now on
[Nexus 4 General] mor_1228:
how can you save settings ? because in trickster settings dont save and revert to default if we reboot.
[Nexus 4 General] l_npl:
I'm using faux app. You can check "set on boot"
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Okay, not all that bad fresh on 4.4.2 either for now... no Now!, no Google apps cached. Today I'll have them loaded and see.
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
I'm curious... Sometimes my device looses 2-5% of battery at once. Is this normal? Completely stock & unrooted. It was behaving like that since day one, with 4.2 installed. At first I thought it's a bad calibration, but it doesn't look like that. I can tell that it tends to occur especially after the device was idling for a couple of hours.
[Nexus 4 General] nudou350:
REDKAT 4.4.2 + Hells core Kernel. PERFECT combo with Stock settings!

22h38min on!
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
That's normal. It sometimes doesn't update the percentage while idling so you'll see a sudden drop, especially at lower percentages I've noticed that. You might see a flat line and then a quick drop, like on the pics above your post.
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Okay, not quite as good with all sorts of apps and widgets cached, but still like 0,7% standby loss per hour, WITH Google background processes (no Now). They did drain battery hard on 4.3, just have Calendar or Keep opened and cached somehow triggered wakelocks. Not here so far.
[Nexus 4 General] davidsteele1975:
I'm seeing something similar, but I've never worried about closing old applications.

Google updated Keep and Calendar in the last couple of days and I'm sure I saw improved battery life detailed for both...

...this said, I'm pretty certain every update claims improved battery life! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
Pure stock 4.4.2, looks like there's an improvement in battery life. I usually don't manage to get more than 3.5-4 of SOT. WiFi 100% of the time.
[Nexus 4 General] mohan_168:
My battery impressions so far. On battery for 2 days 2 hours. Screen usage is about 1 hour and few odd minutes.

Battery is at a good 55%
[Nexus 4 General] jutezak:
My impressions changed a LOT since disabling Google Now and Google Plus.

First disabled Google Now but it did not make a huge difference.

Google Plus annoyed me recently by emptying my battery after filming a bit. Its auto-awful(some) made me lose trust in it (what else will it decide to do after another update?) so i disabled the whole app.

While I wouldn't even make it through the day before, now at the end of the day I'm at 50 - 80% (with little screen on time I must say). And while I have a G+ account I never use it - sowhat was it doing?
[Nexus 4 General] davidsteele1975:
That's interesting about Google+; I guess it's the upload? You can tell it to only upload over WiFi and only when plugged in, which is what I tend to do unless I'm feeling like being mean to my data and battery! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] jutezak:
I've no idea.. I didn't see it show in the battery usage list. Just the generic Android OS or standby eating more than an hour's worth of screen time.

Just decided to remove it because I do not like software which suddenly develops a life of it's own. It would auto-awesome my video "which I can easily undo" but it is not clear where it is stored or how to undo. Having that on by default just stinks, especially as it took more battery on auto awesome than on the camera itself.

I will probably try Google Now again, as that is something I used, if not much.
[Nexus 4 General] dantezinn:
Are you guys using GEL?
[Nexus 4 General] mohan_168:
+1 for me. I have un-installed Google Seach, G+ and Google now & Currents. I get better battery with these disabled.
[Nexus 4 General] josefiilho:
hmm will test it
[Nexus 4 General] l_npl:
Nova 2.3
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Two days mixed usage, 300 photos, lotsa widgets and Google services (bar Now!) and one crash, stock unrooted 4.4.2 on ART.
[Nexus 4 General] ninosaxo:
My autonomy is crazy.. How should I resolve? From 50% to 30%in 5second, and it stuck on 10% for an hour...

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk

Edit: Purity 4.4.2 14december with his kernel

always with mobile connection.. Never wifi and art runtime
[Nexus 4 General] Juju_the_ouf:
Oh my god..

You're using Art or dalvik ? and what is your governor ? Thanks.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] l_npl:
Optimized dalvik. Intellidemand.