yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
I get what you're saying. I'll give saturn a call when I'm there tomorrow, see what they'll have to say about the truthfulness of their delivery dates.

I'd rather get it in a physical store, then order from google play. There would be a lot less hassle if I got it from mediamarkt or saturn. Would be easier to deal with warranty claims etc. I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't:P WORST case scenario, I'll order from google directly. But the 6-7 weeks is a killer, since I won't be there for longer than 4 weeks tops:(
[Nexus 4 General] bla_laber:
I would recommend to order at the PlayStore - there should be any risk. It terms of money: you first pay when the device will be shipped. In terms of warranty: what I read from other users, sending in a faulty device to get a new one seems to be uncomplicated and fast. Further, you always have the right to send back anything you ordered within two weeks without giving a reason (at least if you order in the german PlayStore). So by ordering via Google, this would be your backup plan. And additionally, you can cancel your placed order!

With that backup plan, you can try to get a device in Saturn/Mediamarkt. If it's true that they are able to sell devices on Jan 15th, just go early enough (before opening times, who knows how many people are trying the same way) to a store and hope the best!
[Nexus 4 General] Jur1nator:
*wishful thinking*

everybody who had 1-2 weeks shipping, gets an email tommorow saying the n4 is on its way

*fingers crossed*
[Nexus 4 General] le_bron:
Tomorrow is the day that shipping info emails are coming?
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
nobody knows but they usually send most of the orders on tuesdays or wednesday... that's how it was in the past...
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
It says that the date was postponed and even they don't know if that effects the whole supply or if they may get a limited amount of devices. If that would be the case they need to get at least 12 devices because there are 11 pre orders before me.

In case they get enough they will send me an email.

She's sorry she could not provide me more details but even they don't get any information.
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
I hope dispatching starts again today! :)
[Nexus 4 General] AndroidPAX:
From your lips to God's ears.
[Nexus 4 General] DiggHead:
Is there any German carrier having the n4 in stock? My Old phone started random rebooting yesterday, so I don't think I can wait 30-60 more days.

How is it even possible, that Google is still not able to provide n4's, when it is not LG causing a shortage....
[Nexus 4 General] huso81:
If there would be a carrier having n4 in stock, it would be sold out in a few minutes.

You can try it with ebay or so. For me it does not make sense to Pay 400+ € for a n4 8gb in ebay. But if you cant wait, thats the only way.
[Nexus 4 General] bla_laber:
No, right now you can't find the device anywhere.

Keep in mind, LG only delivers what Google orders.
[Nexus 4 General] gendjo:
Media Markt

Hello, is there any news from Media Markt ? Will they have any devices at 15th december or nothing at all? I had an email from them few days ago...so i am wondering if any one else has a different information.

"Dear .....................,

Thank you for your message.

Unfortunately there is no exact delivery date at the moment.

After consulting with our responsible staff, they have been promised a delivery date off 20/12/12. But this date is not officially confirmed by the supplier.

Once the product has been delivered, you receive immediately a notification.

We regret we can not give you more precise information.

Best regards,

Customer service team

Media Markt Hamburg Harburg"
[Nexus 4 General] bla_laber:
Just read the last few pages...
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
No news today either then so far..?
[Nexus 4 General] AndroidPAX:
it is about time for some new delivery messages ....crossing fingers ...
[Nexus 4 General] Bara2:
Was hoping for some new delivery messages, too... Well, maybe tomorrow :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] AndroidPAX:
let´s see day isn´t gone so far

and in the end at least google wrote an email to those who asked for a more accurate shipping date. So at least the 19.12 could be right ... maybe they know, that they will get new devices on 17.12.

19.12 would be still ok to have the device ready for doom´s day :P
[Nexus 4 General] AndroidPAX:
ok, I guess really no shipping today.

Maybe it will really start next weeks ... let´s see
[Nexus 4 General] rakludnet:
May be tomorrow. Even last week shipping mails for many people were on wednesday :)
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
My parcel was shipped but it's from an RMA, so not the same stock as the other phones.

Where can I enter the tracking number? It doesn't seem to work yet.
[Nexus 4 General] Jur1nator:
it can take up to 24 hours for the tracking number to show up.
[Nexus 4 General] DiggHead:
Let's hope for Google to ship another batch of phones. I got an answer from MediaMarkt (Köln-Marsdorf) today, to my question about my pre order from 22.11.2012:

They are telling me, that LG postponed the delivery date to 15.01.2013, so they wont get anything before that date. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] KeeperXCVI:
That's what my Media Markt (Köln-Kalk(Köln-Arcaden)) said too.
[Nexus 4 General] coukalamin:
Just came to see what the situation was like for the deliveries in Germany. Us from the Uk still Havent received any emails. I am a 3-5 dayer but nothing. Could someone update me on your situation. Thanks ;)
[Nexus 4 General] dh.harald:
1-2 weeks buyer, no response/ETA
[Nexus 4 General] coukalamin:
What about 3-5 dayers?; do you know
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
+ 1. Upon emailing the help desk I got the (probably a standard draft) "we'll ship it on the 19th" response. Bolloxed..
[Nexus 4 General] Chad_Petree:
They're selling the bumpers again on the USA store, hopefully they will start seeing them too in Germany next week :)

Does Google sell gift cards for the play store here in Germany? My birthday its coming o maybe I ask my friends for gift cards :p
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
yeah 3-5 days got shipped but not all I think, although 3-5 days was not really common, I for example never saw that.

The majority were 1-2 weeks orders and a bunch of them shipped last wednesday (aswell as 3-5 days) and strangly even pretty much sorted after ordering time. From what it looks like they shipped most of the orders which were placed from 17:00 to 17:03...Everybody who ordered after that got nothing or was really really lucky... ;) But everybody who ordered till 17:10 got 1-2 weeks so everybody is hoping they get new stock this week...

Was there any stock in the UK last week at all?
[Nexus 4 General] fkrone:
If you plan to buy hardware via gift cards this would be according to my information not possible. Only apps, movies, music and books can be purchased via the gift cards.

With the N4 at MediaMarkt it is like Schrödinger's cat:

You will get it or not on the 15th Dec but you don't really know at the moment (there are contradictory information as for example my MediaMarkt says they will get some devices). On 15th Dec we will know but before not.
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Yes there was some UK stock.

Unfortunately Google totally messed up and sent them all to people who ordered a few hours after the start, and who had shipping quotes of 4 to 6 weeks. :eek:

This of course caused outrage and the people who order first with a shipping estimate of 3-5 days have not been shipped.

So we are left waiting for next batch, hoping that Google send them in the correct order....
[Nexus 4 General] Chad_Petree:
Well thanks for letting me know, such a bummer :(
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
I hope they start shipping again today! :D
[Nexus 4 General] webwude:
? You already have your N4? As I ordered on 5th of December I guess I have to wait at least a few weeks more :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
I am upgrading to a 16gb I have ordered and this is going to a friend!
[Nexus 4 General] SiemensLover:
It seems that Google did not got any batch on this Monday (10.12). too cold hhhhhhh

Will we all get our nexus 4 on the next BIG batch on monday (17.12)? hmmmmmm i doubt because Google hat proved to us that they can mess it up professionaly :)
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
Nobody knows on which day Google gets a new batch...
[Nexus 4 General] SiemensLover:
Mondays dear!
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
says who? Because last week they shipped on Wednesday? Or because if they have stock they start shipping at the beginning of the week? It's all speculation, same as saying they didn't get any new stock since last week...

sure if they get a batch on a tuesday 0:01, they all take the rest of the week off :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] SiemensLover:
Still Mondays dear!
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
Ok I see you know your stuff, thanks :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Bara2:
That is indeed pure speculation - possibly, the get new stock on friday, who knows
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
Nahhh... SiemensLover must be right, he has quite accurate sources, the playstore even declines new stock when it doesn't arrive on mondays :p
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
please repeat it a few more times, maybe it will appear magically then.

What you're saying basically is: They received stock on Monday but are to lazy to ship it out.... sure!
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
Well to be fair, he said they didn't get new stock this monday so they can only get new stock next monday at the earliest ;)
[Nexus 4 General] SiemensLover:
next Monday (17.12) google will recieve new batch for sure. But how much? Who will recieve his N4? keine Ahnung!

So let us relax and wait for the next Tuesday. Google had already messed up.
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
Why is everyone so sure its Monday? No one has ever said anything about that.
[Nexus 4 General] abufaka:
Because it was like that one time. And of cause that means it will always be like that. And because the SiemensLover said so. Like he said several other things that of cause fullfilled themselfes...

And maybe because some ppl just are delusional and like the sound of typing on their keyboard. Or they are bored. Or... IDK!

Lots of ppl cling to urban myths. And this is the interwebz. Welcome to the mother of urban myths...

What is this i don't even...
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Anybody in here knows how to cancel the preorder from mediamarkt? Urgent! Thanks and I lolled at the post above. Ownage.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
Write them a mail, phone them.
[Nexus 4 General] trol0lo:
Because it's the last date on which they could get it and still fulfill the 2 week time frame.

Sure it can be earlier tho'
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Just ordered 2 n7 16gb, for a friend & myself. Will get on the phone to them & beg for the n4 to be shipped with them..

Edit: Of course not. "different orders, will be shipped separately. What ever was said for the n4 (1-2 weeks) is still valid".

Bla bla bla, standard response, I'm sure. The - otherwise lovely - lady asked if I wanted to participate in their Customer Service questionnaire. I politely declined as the sh*tstorm that would hit whoever was asking the questions would be unfair. Or, pointless if it was a machine.

Waiting further l guess then. Ffs..
[Nexus 4 General] Hallucinogen775:
instead of speeding up your N4 order, you will probably end up with a delay of your 2 N7 orders, because the N4 is not available. or maybe since this sounds like a separate order and you pay separate shipping fees, they will send out the N7's rightaway.

friend of mine ordered a N7 and a N4, of course they don't ship out N7 when they can, but they wait for the N4 to arrive... he's quite annoyed which I can understand.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Separate orders, see edit above.

Rightfully annoyed, all of us..
[Nexus 4 General] Kazliux:
Notification from MediaMarkt

"Sehr geehrter Damen und Herren

Nun gibt es auch ein offizielles Statement vom Hersteller.

Die Geräte werden dieses Jahr nicht mehr geliefert. Wir

nehmen an es gibt technische Probleme zu lösen, was noch

eine gewisse Zeit in Anspruch nimmt.

Ihre Reservierung behalten wir bis auf Wiederruf bei, damit

Sie bei Auslieferung auf jeden Fall einer der ersten sind, die

ein Nexus 4 erhalten.

Sollten Sie eine Stornierung wünschen, bitte wir um eine kurze Bestätigung.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen "

It's now official that no N4 this year....
[Nexus 4 General] Ciclop:
In US, lot of people re-ordered 11th of December and their order shipped today, but their earlier orders (e.g 27th of November) didn't ship.

Is this is the case Germany as well? Is there a chance if I order today, I'll get my N4 in December? Or should I expect the 6-7 weeks shipping, like they say?
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
No N4 was shipped since last week. a few lucky ones from the re-launch on 4th dec. received their phones, seams like everyone ordered after 5:02pm has to wait. Ok, there were a few ones ordered around 7:00pm who also received their phones, but it was exceptional.

I've ordered a second one on 7th dec myself, but neither the order from 4th nor from the 7th received any update.

So atm it seams the 6-7 weeks shipping time is correct, or at least there is a large waiting time.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
The help desk said earlier that the information at the time of the order is valid so 1-2 weeks stands. Whether she knew what she was talking about or it was a standard "get rid of the customer call" statement, time will show..
[Nexus 4 General] grey0712:
Status Change

Status just changed on my account.

Was 'Pending', now 'Pre-ordered'. Any thoughts?

Ordered on 04/12, 16GB, Germany, 1-2 weeks predicted ship date.
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
My status just changed from pending to pre-ordered... What ever that means :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] siata05:
mine have changed too, ordered 17:04:12
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Just to let you know, this is happening in the UK thread right now too. Mine and many others changed to pre-ordered ( I'm 1 -2 weeks )
[Nexus 4 General] cYbernation:
same here.
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
Mine changed also to preordered, 17:46:47/4-5weeks.

Now there are 2 ways to see it :D

Good:

Something has changed, means Google may have received some devices and is updating the orders which are going to be shipped.

Bad:

Google screwed up something and we all are falling into a limbo state -.-

I hope its the good one :)
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Where do you all see that.?? All I have in the wallet is this (upper half to cover the data)..

And it has never changed, it's been like this since ordering.
[Nexus 4 General] grey0712:
Status Change hunch

My hunch is that Google is trying to get on top of things and sort out their queueing (or lack thereof) situation.

Maybe 'Pre-Ordered' is just a line drawn in the sand, people who ordered before 'x' date are pre-orders, they go out first; people who ordered afterwards get processed afterwards. Just my 2c.

Or we all get beautiful phones tomorrow morning, here's hoping :)
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
go to the playstore and log in. Then look under "Meine Bestellungen", there are all the apps you downloaded and the nexus 4 order with the status...
[Nexus 4 General] Etihad:
Wenn du dich im Google Play angemeldet hast, ganz unten auf "Meine Bestellungen & Einstellungen".

Just log in to Google Play and klick "My orders & settings" at the bottom end of the page.

Edit: someone beat me to it. BTW +1 for the status change to "preordered".
[Nexus 4 General] grey0712:
In other news, my order date just changed. This is a good sign from what I have seen elsewhere. I daren't get my hopes up...do I?

For those who are looking for where this is all happening:

https://play.google.com/store/account

Things are looking up, cobs!
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Ow, that! :p Cheers mate. I think it's been like that since ordering.

The two n7 I ordered a couple of hrs ago are on the same as well; in case anyone wants to give ir a positive translation.. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
What time did you order? Mine is still the same (ordered at 04.12.12 17:07)

So did your N7 orders also change to pre-ordered or are those still pending (which would probably be normal?)
[Nexus 4 General] grey0712:
5:07pm; 04/12.

Good luck to you, cobber!
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Pre-ordered. Which is a positive (??) thing in this comparison, they're on 3-5 day delivery. Means they're all about to be shipped? U don't fckng know.

If I had a goat I'd slay it & read the intestines to try & tell the future. Or, I I could go back in time, I'd ask my ancestors at the Oracle of Delfi. Prepared to do almost anything for any kind of information right now...... :banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] siata05:
just got info from google wallet, that they couldn't charge me from my MasterCard for some reason (probably the f****** SecurityCode), and I've tried it few times....and then decided to try my polish MasterCard and...after few seconds got confirmation from my bank that the money was taken.

Check your google wallet, should be something new there about charging your card.

Hope it's it!
[Nexus 4 General] Loudlian:
do u guys notice that, on 04/12/2012 when we order this little guy. Order just changed from "Pre-ordered" to "Pending".

Now it comes again BACK TO "Pre-ordered".

Does it means that, the orders we made in 17:02- 17:10 just canceled ??? Hard to believe...:crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
The Order Date changed...? How can the order date change..?

I think we're all starting to hallucinate by now..
[Nexus 4 General] grey0712:
Don't get ahead of yourself mate. Many had their orders change dates just before they shipped.

Chin up, cob; your phone will come soon enough.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Don't want to bring bad news but i have ordered on 9/12 and status changed to pre order also. I had a 6-7 week delivery time. So the pre order status doesn't tell it will get shipped soon.
[Nexus 4 General] Lorthirk:
God how do I envy you... I ordered on Dec 5, just a whole day after... God knows where I'll see that status change! :D

Just to give my 2 cents, however, as said I ordered on Dec 5 and I'm still pending.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Why bad news? Yours could be delivered as well! I can imagine them getting a humangous stock before Xmas as to avoid pi*sing off thousands of people before the holidays..
[Nexus 4 General] xerivor:
they changed my order status from pending to pre orderd -.- oh god why
[Nexus 4 General] Lorthirk:
Ordered on?

I suggest to everyone who posts updates on their order to ALWAYS tell time and date as well :)
[Nexus 4 General] greyphil:
I think we might get our phones soon. Just got a mail from Google Wallet that they somehow confirm some payment update on my account (the Nexus 4) hope that's a good sign.
[Nexus 4 General] xerivor:
I have ordered the Nexus 4 8GB on the 4th December at 17:06 :D
[Nexus 4 General] Loudlian:
so ur order got changed from pending to pre-ordered, too?
[Nexus 4 General] DarkFire1985:
Normally I would say Pre-Order comes for Pending.

Relating like that it could mean that Google delays every order until a certain time / date.

My order also changed from Pending to Pre-Order.

December 6, 2012 5:42:46 PM UTC+1
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Allegedly it's charged only when shipped.. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] jensenmensen:
My order was also changed to pre-ordered and now even the order date changed from 4.12. to 12.12.

WTF are they screwing up now?
[Nexus 4 General] enursed:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] Etihad:
I think that means that Google received your device today and they are preparing shipment.:good:

I hope, I wish.....
[Nexus 4 General] greyphil:
Yes it did. We'll see what happens.
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
my order date also changed to 12.12 now... It's amazing what Google can do to people, everybody goes crazy because they change a date & status in your account :p
[Nexus 4 General] AndroidPAX:
mine changed to pre-ordered from pending, too. my order date didn´t change

17:07:54

EDIT: order date also changed now
[Nexus 4 General] aMpeX:
well mine is still "Pending" 17:05:30
[Nexus 4 General] KingBeike:
Status changed from "Ausstehend/Pending" to "Pre-ordered/Vorbestellt"

18:13:37

Maybe i will get it before christmas? :confused::confused: I hope so :D
[Nexus 4 General] Jur1nator:
google wallet shows : still pending at 17:10

google store account shows: pre ordered on the 12.12.12.

-.-
[Nexus 4 General] WiseyNL:
I've 2 orders, 7 & 10 december

status @ Google wallet ( https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions: ) is Pending (both devices)

status @ Google play ( https://play.google.com/store/account ) is Pre-ordered (both devices)
[Nexus 4 General] TylerDurden1999:
What was the final price when your ordered the 16 gb version with shipping?

370 euros?

Because i wanna order it from a friend from Germany and i dont know if i wait for it to appear in Romania(where i live) or to order it from Germany.

Here will appear in Jannuary, at 500+ euros rumoured.

Btw, how is the warranty?1 year international?And how long you waited guys to get it ?

Another question, does DHL ship in Romania?Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Oj,I'd have to apologise to the people I accused of hallucinating; my order also changed date to 12/12.. Time was 17:07:55

:confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] aletto:
358€ I think.

DHL is a world wide operating company, but I don't know if they'll ship the N4 to romania.
[Nexus 4 General] Loudlian:
fck....order time changed to 12/12/2012 just seconds ago...
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
People apparently getting charged on their credit cards now... (source other forums)
[Nexus 4 General] mazurson:
Google what are you doing ? STAHP

haha jk I guess it's a good sign. Wallet says pending but Play Store changed to pre-ordered + 12th of December.

17:07:23
[Nexus 4 General] indoh:
Change to 12.12 17:05:11 here... No credit card transaction yet...

Guys stop this sh.... I wanted to go sleep, and now i have to refresh every minute.... Just to see any good sign
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
It's only a matter of time until Google Wallet crashes again with everybody refreshing :D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] Loudlian:
+1. ganz the same as u....
[Nexus 4 General] indoh:
I have to say, after *nerding* for about 1month, i'm getting lil bit to lazy... It took me more than a month, but finally i got in mind, i dont rly need a new smartphone....lol
[Nexus 4 General] aMpeX:
checked google play and mine did indeed change to pre ordered as well on play, while remaining on pending in wallet.

My date also changed to 12/12 ( I guess this is meant to be the date of the last status update, not the order date)
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Look like everyone is getting pre ordered. But it can't be possible that they suddenly have enough phones for every order in every country. So don't think too positive yet.
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
Opening my e-banking account every ten minutes or so....

I doubt that Google will send out hundreds of phones for free, this is for me the point where it stands or fall.

No charge, no shipping, regardless what the play store status says.

I'll not allow myself to raise any hope until I see a charge on my CC :eek:

Right. It could just mean "We don't have a fu**ing clue when your phones will be available and so you don't nail us down on the estimated shipping time we gave you, we just change your status to "some time in the future"" :P
[Nexus 4 General] indoh:
Stop this negative attitude thing!
[Nexus 4 General] wkd2639:
You may have a dilema there..... there are numerous reports of cards being charged several days AFTER the device has been delivered. You may end up with a phone in your hand but your brain won't let you believe it is real until your card is charged.....
[Nexus 4 General] Loudlian:
i think the “changed” guys are more likely to come here camplaining about this, while the guys remaining “pending” already asleep... LoL
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
actually my brain starts to imagine that the Nexus 4 is just a myth and everyone talking about it is just a paid by Google ;)
[Nexus 4 General] indoh:
Gn8 boys, hope we all will have a sending mail tomorrow ;) elsewise... Lets burn google to the ground !!!:p
[Nexus 4 General] Loudlian:
or we keep on refreshing xda tomorrow. LoL..