yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[About XDA developers] AtoZ0to9:
Sometimes the ROM thread also has a Q/A thread for it, so check for that, and post there... Only 3 more to go for you anyways...
[About XDA developers] drarnold:
I checked and there is no Q/A thread for this ROM. I think it's foolish to assume new user = noob and force them to waste time building their post count to some arbitrary amount before their allowed to post valuable feedback where the ROM devs are most likely to see it.
[About XDA developers] AtoZ0to9:
Nobody made that assumption, you just assumed they did. One more post, that's all it takes for you. The rule is not going to change. Be glad is isn't 50 like other users want.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
10 thanks before you can post in dev! I want. Nao.

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Sent from my fridge. Make: LG Model: N⁴
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
This would actually make more sense than the current policy IMO.

Its easy to post 10 comments, not so easy to get thanks.

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Actually, I think 10 thanks would be a little to unfair for new users. It's not as easy as some think to get 10 thanks, especially for new users
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Actually, the 10 post rule has a very valid reason, to prevent new users asking the same question which has been asked many times before. Now, I understand not all new users are like this, but you'd be surprised how many are. To make ten posts isn't even that hard tbh. All you have to do is go into Q&A, General or OT forums and help somebody else. The OT forums is full of threads where you don't even need to help somebody (but at least the other forums are less full of spam). We are trying to help dev's who have been screaming at us that new users don't read, look etc and just ask the same old questions expecting them to roll over and come to their becking call.

Ok, so you may be different....and you have an issue with some rom, you've stated on one of your posts that it's serious. What is it? Let me help you
[About XDA developers] calisro:
To me the 10 thx or the 10 posts doesn't help but instead frustrates people. When I first came to xda, I came to solve an immediate problem I was having with a build from CM. It was pretty frustrating not being able to ask the question in the right place so like everyone else I posted 10 sub-par posts. I didn't learn anything....

My suggestion would be to relax the post rule and force people to read a VERY short set of rules and answer a VERY basic set of Qs about those rules. Like 3 random questions to gain access to post in dev forums.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Out of curiosity, what was your immediate problem?

Also, your idea, we have thought of this before, getting new users to read the rules, but most would just scroll to the bottom and hit ok....having learnt nothing. Getting them to answer questions was also thought of before, but I'm not sure exactly what became of that tbh

I'll look into it and get back to you
[About XDA developers] drarnold:
Thanks for the explanation. Maybe a better alternative is to only let new users reply to dev threads and give OP's the power to delete replies (if this is even technically possible). But I know we shouldn't even be discussing this here and this will be my 10th post anyway.

This is my question: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191984. It is probably moot by now since Build 2 has since been released and I am able to try it out now.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
See PM to keep thread on topic
[About XDA developers] AtoZ0to9:
Being a tester for Slim, I've responded to your thread with accurate info...
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
I've read and responded, hopefully you get this resolved:beer:

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
ok, looks like a happy outcome with answer in Q&A. System works lol

Now back on topic please
[About XDA developers] eraste:
I second this. Having a "profile" link to ones Github would make locating things such as source etc a lot easier. Often times I see things that are cool and want to learn more about it but have to spend a lot of extra time scanning all the different OP's of my favorite dev to find his source links when a link to his/her github could be say under the donate button in the avatar box or at least a clickable link on said favorite devs profile!
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Actually, if we got rid of everyone bar the developers, XDA would still exist. True developers would still develop for the love of it. Its nothing to do with money, fanbois etc. XDA is for developers and always will be

Right, back on topic, and please, enough of the 10 post rule talk.
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
Can you at least hide the About xda section or at least the feedback and the request thread from these new users? Everyday, nothing but whining of this rule comes up and it doesn't even allow proper discussions to take place.
[About XDA developers] _Variable:
Am with prawn on this, Make this an exclusive section. Im actually losing interest following this thread because of that topic popping up randomly.

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[About XDA developers] calisro:
That's not quite what I meant but i didnt write what i meant clearly enough so I'll leave it at that. :beer:
[About XDA developers] JJEgan:
For me the layout is wrong for the modern XDA users who just wants an answer to xx question even if its been posted ten thousand times before . Rules wont be read so no point a separate General and Q&A section .

My thoughts on this very difficult subject are one the forum to have a locked FAQS GUIDES HOW TO section new posts added by asking a mod to add . This hopefully would make the information easier to access and not have the clutter of thousands of additional questions .

The General and Q&A sections are then combined into one section saves mods continually moving stuff .Possibly with a stickied set of answers at the top to the questions that are continually asked as their are not that many of them .

jje
[About XDA developers] flastnoles11:
FAQs are in the process of being created in most device sections already. Many done, many more to go
[About XDA developers] dagaetch:
Android Apps and Games subforum

Hi,

Wanted to offer a suggestion for the Android Apps and Games subforum. I've noticed that the same 7-8 threads essentially live on page 1 due to their popularity and post frequency, and another 10+ threads are never far away. That's great for those developers and users, but it also crowds out new threads/apps in an extremely quick moving forum. What if a sub-subforum was created, call it "Popular" due to my lack of originality, and the most visited threads were moved there. Criteria could be something like:

thread has over 500 replies AND

thread is 3+ months old

This would continue to give these threads the ease of access they deserve, while allowing new threads a better chance to be seen by the wider community. As someone who only checks in once or twice a day and generally only has time to look at the first two pages, it would be great to see more new apps.

Thanks for reading!
[About XDA developers] Nameless One:
Password strength/length?

Having failed to find an answer elsewhere, what are the restrictions on passwords (length/acceptable characters)?

The signup page accepted the 63 character printable ASCII (basically anything on the keyboard with/without <shift>)

password I gave it but the next time I went to log on it didn't want to know about it.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Curious, if it didn't allow you to log on, how are you posting above?

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] Nameless One:
Password reset, just as it would if I had forgotten my password.
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
Erm...a question..how be it that you respond to him yet ignore the suggestion a post above his? I mean, multiquote ain't for nothin'.

P.S : No offence intended. :o
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
hmmm, not sure how this would work in a site this size. Interesting idea. I'll mention it to others to get a general feel for it and get back to you

I've passed this on to admin. Will get back to you when I know

Never ignored, just missed it originally, but thanks for highlighting that
[About XDA developers] Alaq:
I have a new suggestion that would ease the work of the mods and get less flame for the newbies...

Recently I've been seeing more posts in incorrect sections by accident or newbie didn't know. And usually said newbie gets flamed until a mod can get there and close/move it. I say we add a new post moving/closing feature to the members. Not a direct power but something like this:

On thread is a button that says start vote. When you hover over it, two choices come up: move or close.

For move it will then ask you where you would like it to be moved.

Once you click it, a vote is started weather to do such act. On thread title (VOTE) is added. Once a certain amount of votes are in (ex. 4 people must vote yes), then it will moved/closed.

For closing, you can make the vote amount higher (ex. 6 people)

Pros:

-Threads can be moved/closed quicker than before. Don't have to wait for mod to get on.

-Make mods job easier.

Cons:

-Trolling? Closing posts /moving for fun
[About XDA developers] calisro:
Devils advocate: If 4 noobs or annoyed people decide they don't like cm10.1, they can close the thread or move it to general for fun? I understand what your trying to do but sounds dangerous.
[About XDA developers] Pons:
How about either up the number of votes, or only count the ones from Senior Members (or since we've all seen Seniors do somehting noobish a lot), have a minimum number of RC's or higher (like 2) weigh in?

Basically, don't just count votes from anyone, especially Junior Members.
[About XDA developers] Nameless One:
How about if the vote opened up a move option (with notification) for the OP, possibly a temporary move with mod confirmation to make the move stick?
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
Its most likely not going to happen as there is too much room to abuse it. Even if there was mod approval required all we'd end up doing is creating more work for them.

We need to try to educate (or re-educate as its warranted) the users about what belongs where. As senior members, RC's and Recognized Developers, this is something we are responsible for.

Its up to us as users to make a better experience for ourselves and new members.

I believe this thread is supposed to be more about site improvement for ease usability than about keeping certain things from becoming an annoyance. The implementation of needing to watch the video is a prime example of an idea to improve things for all users. However as its been stated multiple times, users can (and do) bypass it, therefore they don't get the information contained within and post in wrong forums, fail to search, etc...

Its just my opinion but we as long time users should be more responsible and offer the help instead of flaming or demoralizing other users.

Yes, its frustrating, but think about how your experience could have different if the long time members when you joined had been as intolerant as some of you are.

End rant.:p

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[About XDA developers] Pons:
a I agree to disagree:

I wouldn't shut it down till a Mod weighsin on it (coincidentally, I'm for it).

I disagree. If it had a minimum of qualified votes from qualified voters,then there's small chance of it being abused. And if it is religiously being abused, just disable it. Some things you just have to put into motion and give it a test phase before you can say if it's good or just wasted effort.

Isn't a way to keep the forum manageable and organized a site improvement? If something is excessively annoying (and disorganized), is it really useable? I think not. Think of it like a TV set that randomly adjusted its own volume up (but not too loud to hurt the ears or disturb others), and down (but not too low wear you could hear it). Annoying to me (and others, I'd wager), and not very useable despite being functionally sound.

Actually, they were, but I didn't post off topic and/or inappropriateness, so it had little effect on me.
[About XDA developers] AtoZ0to9:
I'm trying to help another user right now and using the search feature (weird I know) and find it to be absolute trash... Possibly the topic I'm searching is too broad, but all it seems to do it reorganize the threads in the forum... Not what I wanted... Granted I don't use the search feature much, I follow my phones' forums from its inception, keep what I need, and bookmark stuff, but wow, I expected better... We shouldn't be beating search into people so hard if it performs for them like it is for me...
[About XDA developers] Babydollll:
This^^^^^^

Plus, it seems search goes down a LOT. I understand the need to have users search before posting (idk how many times I've linked someone to a thread that answered their exact question, then reminded them to search first, next time....) but if it isn't functional or doesn't show the results that were queried....What's the point of beating it into everyone's head?
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Dude intolerance was a stapled rampant part of xda when I joined. You either posted with something constructive or didn't post at all. Only bug reports or code testing went on in dev, if not, you got flamed so much your monitor cumbusted. The site is pretty dang tame compared to what it was. Almost to point that comparative it's now a coddling support site. I don't complain about how it is, I think it's friendlier, but I do miss the dev in the open that used to happen because there wasn't the noobs asking questions to chainfire about why the root notification didn't come up for such and app. He might do more on the site and in the open if it were dev related more. And these guys to what they can to keep it that way while toeing a fine line to keep the masses happy and have their support (aka Q&A) sections around.

Idk, I give props to the guys for doing what they do. I read the site for maybe 6 months before I joined. I've been here longer than my date says. Not sure you, or I for that matter, have a right to talk about how it used to be here. I've seen lots of changes, some good, some bad, but all with good intention.

And how my experience could have been different....... I liked it back then, and would love it to be the same way. But it can't and won't be the same. I'm glad my experience as a new member was what it was.

Just my lil rant on someone talking about the olden times.
[About XDA developers] mercator54:
i think you should improve design and interface of xda. :o
[About XDA developers] Pons:
That vague statement is not really helpful. Mind drawing up a mock up or something, or describe in much greater detail your suggestion?
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Tbh, this ain't going to happen, whether you leave it to only SM's or not, there will always be the potential for abuse. We can't even trust devs to be good. We have had dev teams down vote other dev teams threads, or post bad things in the threads. You also get people loyal to one dev attacking other devs. Same will happen with this, the potential for abuse is too great.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Ok, looks like this is not going to happen. Tbh, it's not difficult to view the first few pages. I generally view the first 5 or so pages every few days to look out for new stuff. Problem is, people are too lazy to go looking past the first page. We are not here to cater for lazy people. Plus, the determination for "best" threads. Who is going to monitor this and continually update the new sub forum with threads across a site this big. It's just not practicable tbh as every forum has more than 1 page

I know where you are coming from, but where do you draw the line? Do we start taking popular roms out of dev sections because they are always on the front page? I don't think so. Sorry bud, but this ain't going to happen
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
The password is passed through clean_array_gpc which essentially cleans the string up a bit. So from that side, it won't allow ', " etc. in passwords. However the database is set to latin1_swedish_ci, which from my understanding supports these characters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1. If the language uses characters outside of those, it probably won't save it in the database correctly even if the website accepts them.

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] dagaetch:
Fair enough...it was just a thought. And you're right about the other forums, I hadn't thought about that. Although I don't know that any of the development forums move as quickly as the app forums, so it might be less of a problem, was just trying to think of a way to get newer/less popular apps a better chance of being seen. FWIW, I don't consider myself a lazy reader just because I only read the first couple pages. Rather, I'm actually trying to do more than just scan thread titles, I want to actually read some of the thread and give the dev's an opportunity to convince me to use their app. Doing that, it can easily take 20 minutes to go through a couple pages of threads, and then I'm out of time and have to go back to doing real world stuff (unfortunately for me).

Also just because - I don't know anything about how the forum software works, but wouldn't it be possible to run a search with the criteria I suggested and bulk move anything that resulted? It could be run once a week or something...it's not like new threads would cross this threshold that often.

Thanks for responding!
[About XDA developers] AndreiLux:
Can we do something about the Tapatalk appended signatures? I've seen this as an ever-increasing trend of the last couple of months.

I'm specifically disabling signature viewing in my control panel because I don't care about reading about every single person's banner in their forum signature. Yet people are circumventing this by having inline signatures inside of their posts.

Nonsense like this is severely annoying: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39558039&postcount=5069
[About XDA developers] jugg1es:
I use the tapatalk sigs as you can see, it gets changed roughly everyday. However i have seen banners being used in the tapatalk sigs.

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."

- Thomas Watson (1874-1956), Chairman of IBM, 1943
[About XDA developers] eraste:
I could see how that gets annoying especially when he only writes one sentence and your trying to figure out if those last few lines have anything to do with the post lol. People will always find a way though. Just like they randomly post 10 times in q&a, etc without reading anything just to get into the "good" forums of xda.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
There's no way to stop tt sigs as they just a line of text inserted into the post.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
I have removed the repeated signature from his post.
[About XDA developers] AndreiLux:
Yes, and I frankly don't give a crap about some unrelated quote you feel you need to share with the forum, as far as I see it, it's static noise and contributes to nothing. 80% of the post I just quoted from you is your "signature".

Sure there is:

Rule XX: Do not circumvent the signature format of the forum by appending your own in-line signatures in the text body. This includes Tapatalk and all other automated applications providing this behaviour.

But as I see even MC people feel they need to add things like "Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......" as spice to their posts, so maybe there's little chance of things getting cleaned up.
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
What is the problem if it is a one liner?
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
I understand that some are over-the-top and have, at times, asked people to at least use a spoiler button on there in-app sig but I honestly don't think it's a problem if it's a simple line. (Just like mine is.)

Putting something about it in the rules wouldn't make a blind bit of difference though because tons of people do a great job at reading them so far.

The rule about searching is perfect proof of that. That rule has been there for ages and yet thousands of people a day will still breach that rule.

Sent via my HTC One using XDA Premium
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
With all due respect, You need to be a bit more calm and learn to present your problems in a bit more peaceful manner mate...

No offense
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
Okay say we add that rule, who checks all fifty thousand online members at any given time? Let's say only ten percent are using an app, which is a massive underestimate, that's five thousand people at any one time potentially breaking a rule that's there to stop something that actually only causes very few people a minor inconvenience.

It's simply not feasible.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[About XDA developers] AndreiLux:
Don't enforce it as a rule then, post it as a forum guideline and proclaim that it's not welcomed. What's the arguments against that?
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
Because I really don't think that anyone is particularly bothered by them to the point that we would need to have this guideline in place.

Perhaps I'm wrong but iirc this is only the second time that anyone has asked for tt sigs to be "banned".

That's not to mention the fact that most people wouldn't even acknowledge such a guideline.

If people genuinely feel this is an issue I'll be more than happy to pass it up the chain.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
He said himself, he's got the signature viewing off. I mean, thats why that setting is there, right?

So turn it off in your app or browser, problem solved, everyone's happy...

I just don't get why this is an issue:rolleyes:

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
You misunderstood him mate. He's talking about app sigs, not the normal sigs
[About XDA developers] AtoZ0to9:
One person isn't enough to change any rules, or have to impose about the app sig...

Sent from my Asus G75VW using Google Chrome
[About XDA developers] undercover:


Edit. In case your sense of humour is limping today.

1. Few (literally) people are not going to impose that rule

2. It is hardly annoying, they are normally small

3. They are helpful. When helping someone you can see that he's mobile and as we all know searching on mobile is a pita on xda, so it stops people from flaming.
[About XDA developers] AndreiLux:
Because, people like you feel the need to add catchphrases like "Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul" to your every posts, that's not disabled by the signature viewing.

There's a difference between the generic default signature "Sent from device xx using app xx" to the philosophical quotes some people need to show off.

I have to deal with development mega-threads and it's extremely annoying to filter out actual content from people's poetical contributions from hundreds of users, especially if it's not eye-catching as the default device string, but some line that actually seems to be part of the post, just as quoted (The in-line sigs being part of every quote is also a problem) above from Stryke_the_Orc. Stick it in your real signature and be done with it.

Anyway, since apparently nobody seems to care about it, it can't be helped then.