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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah i was also reading about omni rom. Thought to give it a try. But yeah installing all apps again a big issue. But might go for it. Read ppl talking about omni... Dont know whats new about it.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
So my front and back screen protectors are here for the Nexus... too bad i have no phone to apply them on... LOL
[Nexus 4 General] evh98:
Unfortunately, my chacha is very hesitant on online ordering in this country. It's not shophive that he doesn't trust, its just online ordering in this country in general.

Any physical store that I can buy this device from? Getting REALLY desperate now, and its near impossible to get the phone from the UK, as its sold out everywhere, willing to pay up to 60,000rs now?

Also, would you guys recommend a bumper? I've always hated phone cases, and I've never ever had a case on my phone, but since the N4 is so delicate, I'm considering the bumper, and also because its not really a case, just a bumper. Does it make the phone any more ugly, or heavy? I haven't really had a look at it. Also, screen protectors are out of the question, I've always hated them, even more than cases XD

Again, really desperate to buy from physical store in Pakistan for up to 60k rs, I'm here until 30th Dec.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Dude I don't think he should be that paranoid, but guess I can't blame him for being so. Unfortunately there is no shop in the city that has it as iv been on the hunt myself so... sorry... :-/

As for bumpers and covers and protectors...in my opinion screen protectors have ALWAYS Been essential... never used a phone without one... on the contrary... I HATE cases... bought them... but never used em... I mean I'm paying primium money for the slimmest and sexiest phone... why put a hideous bulky cover on it and hide it all...

Problem with the nexus tho is the front and back edge to edge glass... one drop is all it needs since the back apparently isn't gorilla glass... but the official bumper looks ugly in my opinion... not to mention its selling for upto $100 per piece since its out of stock...! I'm gonna wait for some better bumper options before getting one, but a case, hell no...

But what you should know is... the most common complaint is the phone is so smooth at the back it slides off the table falls and breaks... and the quickest easiest solution has been a back screen protector which gives it some grip... so I say you may need to change your ways regarding protectors...

Anyway... hope you find something... till then check your PM...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
You can order through hsn and pick up from the shop in dha lahore.

Or try cell city or is it cell mart in hafeez center. They have a website saw nexus 4 there. 57 ka
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Wow Pakistan thread for nexus 4

Cool
[Nexus 4 General] evh98:
Damn, that's very unfortunate.

And I completely agree with you, why ruin the premium, expensive design with a case? I'd only buy a bumper, and I guess I might have to look in to a screen protector.

And ifti_a, you have the exact same phone I had, exact same SD card and battery too XD
[Nexus 4 General] Android1126:
i have the Nexus 4.

I got the Nexus 4 in the U.S.

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Although I do reside in the states, I am in Pakistan quite often. I will be in Karachi and Lahore in about a month, and I may be able to help some of you who are interested in obtaining the N4.

Obviously it is sold out world wide, but I'd assume they will have replenished their N4 stock in a few weeks, after this first wave dies down.

I will be coming to Pakistan sometime in January Insha'Allaah.

The Google play store has a 5 handset limit per order.

That is the number I will have, given I find interested buyers.

PM me if interested. If I don't reply immediately don't worry, I will get to it.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
My N4 should be shipping on jan 2nd so I'm good... just another week to go inshaAllah... thanks for the offer... and maybe others here would be interested... tho I highly highly doubt even if you place orders in the next few days, you will have them by even mid of jan ... tho I do think if you buy 5 of them and bring them here... shouldn't be difficult to sell at all... lots of demand here...

Tho since your using the phone... care to share some thoughts on it...?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Sorry dude I think you misinterpreted what I said... I was saying I doubt you will be able to GET them in time before you leave if its mid jan as they are so backed up on orders and said you SHOULDN'T have a problem selling them here as there is high demand... soooo yea... iv been on every ordering thread and what not here so well aware of what's going on on that front :P

But having said that... if your getting 5 of them anyway then plz hold 1 for me just incase mine doesn't reach by then... I'm sure one of my friends would want it anyway once they see mine :)

But good to know your liking the phone... esp in comparison to the one X... another friend who has both phones prefers the sense overlay and the one X... gave the nexus to his dad... but regardless... I can't wait...!!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] Android1126:
If you want me to hold one for you, please send me a PM with ways to contact you other than XDA. What I was referring to, is you having typed -

...."My N4 should be shipping on jan 2nd so I'm good... just another week to go inshaAllah... thanks for the offer".....

This is what was doubtful. In any event, no worries. I have a number of people who have shown interest, but that doesn't mean that they will show up at my House in KHI or LHR with the money, so you may still be in luck.

I will keep you posted.

Salaam.

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P.S. I'm having trouble digesting this part....

" another friend who has both phones prefers the sense overlay and the one X... gave the nexus to his dad... but regardless... I can't wait...!!"

Someone in Pakistan obtained a phone that has not even made it's way across Europe yet, decided to give it to someone else to use, while continuing to use a Sense based device? I dunno man. I've heard a lot of tall tales in my day, this one definitely had me doing a double take.

Well, I will have to say, what a Lucky Uncle to be using a Nexus 4 that his son didn't want!!!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Haha... you know... I would understand the difficulty digesting the statement... and I don't blame you... but the way I can say I'm 100% sure about the claim is... if you check a few pages back you will see id written I actually saw the N4 at a friends and got to play with it... same friend... I saw it... physically played with it... and saw his dozens of other phones... he's mashaAllah a really high roller... just flew in from Canada and got it from there... he offered I take it but it was the 8gb so I wasn't too keen on it... at that moment his dad was using the HTC 8X and was deciding that or the N4... so yea... no BS there... this is a true story... and as I said... he gave it to his dad because he didn't like it... mainly hung up on it being a LG... lol... to each their own I guess... but really nice chap mashaAllah...

Anywhoo... I'll PM you... hope the trip goes as scheduled tho...!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Anyone been able to get one yet...??

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] iArtisan:
man I wish the nexus line was launched officially in Pakistan.

Looking at it's extremely reasonable pricing, I think it'd be a huge hit and would blow competitors like Noir out of the water.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Your forgetting a noir A10 STILL costs ATLEAST 15k less... 19k Noir VS 34k Nexus w/tax & shipping... that's ALOT of money for most the population...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] iArtisan:
The price difference is pretty significant, but it can be justified by superior specs and the LG/Google name brand. I don't know about you but most of the friends laugh at the abundance of "China Mobiles" like Qmobile.

But then again, the vast majority of Pakistanis will pick a 1.6ghz single core over a 1.2ghz dual core.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I think your forgetting this is a LG. In pakistan, people would buy a China mobile before even thinking about getting an LG or Motorola... let alone a 35k LG... quite sad the logic... but guess Atif Aslam is partly to blame for people hating LG......... :P

Having said that... the average person would buy Samsung GS2 over a LG Nexus at the same price... that's Pakistan for you...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
People are nuts about the s2, as if there wasn't any other phone in the market.

As for LG - yeah, it doesn't have a good brand repute (somehow) but maybe Google's cobranding might help.

Oh wait, people only know about Google for search and maybe, gmail. Boohoo.

sent from my mini tractor
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well you can't deny its a GREAT phone... I used it for slightly over a year and had no complaints... except not having available source code so the whole firmware upgrade problems... pretty much WHY i got rid of it and getting a nexus... so can't blame them for loving it...

And nothing can help the LG name... its just a mental hangup... same with Motorola phones... what amazing build quality they have tho...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Mine has been delivered... now the wait to get it to Pakistan :D

By the way... I know someone who is selling a N4 16gb all accessories no box for 45 final... if interested let me know...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] Hmmy 4444:
oh nyc.. i tried the dirty unicorn wen we all had 4.3.. and it was such a awesome rom seriously loved that rom.. dont knw if it is stable on 4.4.2
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well I know that xplodwild who was the main dev for CM on the Samsung Galaxy S Exynos devices left the CM team and joined the OMNI team... He is a great dev tho...

What I heard about OMNI is it has a Multi window feature... Don't think been merged in 4.4.2 yet tho... But its one of those unique OMNI features which seems to be pretty cool... Other extras I'm not too sure of...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Omni is famous for its multi window feature.. It's a nice rom staying close to stock..it recently got quick settings.. more features are slowly being added in it..open delta is also integrated in omni..you don't have to download every 190mb nightly and flash it everyday..open delta just compares the data & downloads anything new which has been added in next nightly.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
CM seems to be making too many changes in its core kernel causing other kernel devs to drop CM support... That's quite sad and they will surely lose lots of users... Already at least on the N5 CM thread, people are already jumping ship...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
This jumping of ship would continue.. All big kernel devs like franco,faux,stratosk etc... they refused to manage another kernel branch just for cm.. There are many roms to try other than cm.. but kernel options are less compared to roms..

to be honest i never liked cm.. and now i found another excuse to hate it even more :p
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Mirage following Pakistan thread :what:
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
U guys tried ART? Seems good and fast. Yet to check any improvement in battery timings. But heard it improves battery time as well...
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Battery life is same with/without ART.. it surely is fast but not good for crack flashers.. there's a long boot up time after flashing a new kernel..got tired of that wait..so switched back to Dalvik :D

Ps:I've noticed something new today..i used to wonder why i have hiccups in GEL...other launchers seem to be fine.. So i turned off google now and now everything is buttery Smooth again.. Don't know why i have these lags while google now turned on
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
U switched back to ART or Dalvik?

And i havent really faced any hiccup in GEL, i m on aokp pa gapps 4.3. And location/GPS is off.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
I am on Dalvik...Using motox Dalvik/Bionic patch..Performance is good :)
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Good... :D
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Hello guys ?

No new post for many days, how's ur nexus 4 doin after months of usage.

I m lovin this phone even after 8 to 9 of purchase, still performing great. ?
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
I dnt knw, i have been using it for 3-4 months, i ain't liking it, i cant even find a good Rom which is stable and not buggy, the camera focus sucks in close ups, and most of the time it is off by itself in the morning ,(hangouts was the problem i think) performance wise its good ,,, which rom r u using?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Ther r many different roms available. U can try them.

I m on CM 11 M3. And so far it is working quite fine. Stable n smooth. Yeah some other custom roms had one or two issues, but u can find a good rom.

Regarding camera, i dont use cam much. For me N4 cam is not that bad. Some dont like it's cam, but not an issue for me.

And what is off by the morning? I also use hangouts, dint face any issue.

Which rom u using?
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Im using carbon rom , it happens on every rom , if i start using hangouts as my default sms, most of the time , i find my phone to be held (the power button wont wakeup the screen) , i hve to long press power button to reboot, using pa gapps, wat gapps u using?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Carbon rom i have heard has some bugs. I never tried carbon after 4.2.2.

Slimkat, purity, CM11, rastakat r all fine i guess.

Im not using hangouts as my default sms app, and recently flashed kk gapps with CM11.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps

(Not sure, but i think these r official gapps) working fine.

I was also on pa gapps prior to this and dint face any issue as such. U may try some other rom, hope it wud b okay.

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With CM11 u can only use CAF custom kernel like hellscore cm version, AK cm version etc. Since i m on stock cm kernel and not really need to flash any custom kernel so it's okay for me.

If u dont want to flash a custom kernel, go for CM, its good.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Accidentally thanked.

Ok. So you're the first person who said it might be Hangouts. Just curious - how did you reach to that conclusion?

I face the same issue too - but it doesn't happen every morning (more like after some days of usage when the phone hasn't rebooted, but mostly random). I'm on bone stock BTW.

I flashed the other dalvik binary files, so let's see how it runs with it.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
I tested it ,,, i noticed after using hangouts as my sms, the issue began, yes it does not happen Every day, but after disabling hangouts, i never did faced that situation,, gave hangouts a chance again a few days ago,, yesterday it was again held , so i think it was hangouts, i could be wrong though,
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
No problem for that accidentally thanked. I ll not accidentally thank u, will b careful.

And u shd read my post again n again until u find i never said hangouts might b the cause. In fact read my post (above the one u quoted) i asked him what is off by morning. Coz i didnt get what his issue was.

I just said i m not using hangouts as my default app, using it for g+chat. Never said hangouts was the cause, since i didnt know abt the issue how cud i tell him the cause. He himself said hangouts cud b the cause (to issue which i didnt understand).
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Sorry - I didn't mean to quite you Omer - wanted to quote Razi instead. My apologies - my post was actually partially addressed to you, and to Razi too - sorry for not being clearer.

Razi, your discovery may hold some merit - I had Hangouts off from SMS for quite a while, but I did restart my phone now and then - so although it's some direction to the madness that made me Looney these past several months, it needs some more testing by me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts - gonna try something.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
No problem bro. I was also surprised that i didnt say that. But anyway its okay. ?
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Gah! Autocorrect error. I meant quote, not quite. LOL.

Just not my day.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Lol, no problem again.

I got that. ?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Keep on going like that guys.. Me enjoying it :p
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
It happened again this morning(was using hangouts again) , im divorcing hangouts permanently now, !
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Yet to try carbon but i never had such issue on other roms.. Been using hangout as my messaging app ever since kitkat showed up.. No problem at all..

Purity & rastakat are the 2 roms that i use mostly..
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I read somewhere that it happens on 90% of the N4 devices.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
so, is this some kind of radio problem then? or some google service?
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I don't know. People don't know. That's why I'd like to test your hangouts theory.

The app Safe Charge didn't work for me in KitKat (admittedly, I only tried it once which doesn't give me enough empirical evidence of the behavior).
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Please test it, im curious!
[Nexus 4 General] meZQureshi:
About this Power button issue, I am on Carbon for couple of weeks and using Hangouts and I am facing this as well. I thought it might be due to Power button bcoz in my case Volume button wakes up device normally. And yes, my Power button isn't broke, Phone is comparatively new.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
U mean the volume button wakes up the screen, but power button doesn't?
[Nexus 4 General] meZQureshi:
Yes. That's somewhat true.. It's either delay or sometimes it doesn't.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
OK. So its not Hangouts for me, since I don't have it set as the default SMS app, and the phone experienced the SOD whilst charging today (admittedly, I hadn't unplugged it for more than 18 hours cause I didn't need the phone).

I read someplace that some people use the wireless charging orb and it doesn't crash anymore (after the KitKat update). One or two places hinted at the charging cable... but in a very subtle manner.

Now - I don't use the charging cable that came with the phone (I purchased an aftermarket cable) so I really don't know....

Man. I wish these months would pass by and the next Nexus be released so that I can jump ship *grin*
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah i have also faced this sleep of death issue in overnight charging. But it doesnt happen everytime i charge overnight. May b if it remains plugged in for several hours it goes in sleep of death. And i m also not using hangouts as my default sms app.

And this SOD issue nvr happened other than overnight charging. I mean if my phone remains idle for 6 to 8 hours, SOD doesnt happen.

Today i ll again plug in phone b4 going to sleep and hopefully it doesnt go to SOD. ?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
I hardly charge my phone at night.. May be that's why i never had this sod issue..

Sent from someone else's Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
That's weird , u guys get it when u overchsrge, I get it when my phone is sleeping for 6-7 hours!

P.s I have stopped using hangouts at all, and its been four days and no Sod so far,
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I use Hangouts for chats only (it's part of the ROM in Kitkat).

I also have the SOD when I charge my phone for 7 or so hours (overnight charge; I use it as an alarm clock and disconnect it from the plug at around 8.45 am or so) so it's really not a case of overcharging either.

Since it's not Hangouts, and it's mostly linked with charging (I don't seem to recall my phone crashing when NOT charging - just can't remember), and the fact that people used to report the N4 crash when using wireless charging on 4.3 but got fixed on 4.4, and then somebody else (elsewhere) mentioned the charging cable being a culprit, I think it's more to do with the cable I'm using.

But I don't want to believe! :/

Each night, it's like "will my phone survive tomorrow? Will the alarm ring tomorrow?"

So - there are now two (or three?) theories: one is the charging cable. The other is Hangouts (how do you NOT use the app altogether? Google Talk is no more, and the alternatives don't do group chat). A third theory I just made up just now is that perhaps if I use the dalvik binaries that were floating in XDA, then perhaps that might help.

Right now, my default SMS app is not Hangouts (nor is it the crap built-in messaging app), and I've flashed the dalvik binaries. Fingers crossed!

Edit: I'm on the stock ROM and kernel - rooted, and with a custom recovery (TWRP).
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Ok, now I'm going to seriuosly test my hangouts theory , its been four days without hangouts, I will use my phone without hangouts till monday, then , I will stsrt using hangouts(as my sms app) again on Tuesday , will come here with good results! I hope

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P.s I had SOD only one time when I my phone was being chsrged,
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
I also cant recall any SOD when phone was in sleep mode (when not charging) for even 6 to 8 hrz. I only got SOD in overnight charging, coz phone remains on charge for almost 6 to 8 hrz may be. Not concluding it is overcharged, but i also dont know the exact reason. And one more thing it doesnt happen every time i charge phone overnight.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Yeah, its pretty much random.

Grrr...
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Afridi zindabad!!

P.s let's get over with the SOD issue ,, now let's talk about wakelocks ! Do u usually get wakelocks or not? Some people say that they haven't faced a wakelock since KK, but I face wakelocks quite frequintly , suspend backoff, msim wakelock etc. Wat about u guys?
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Why get over the SOD issue? I need to use my phone as an alarm!

Wakelocks? Depends. I greenify the apps that I don't need and use push messaging. I greenify all games (no exceptions). Disabled Chrome Sync (sure, I miss the loss of bookmarks and all, but I rarely bookmark something on my phone for the computer) and my idle battery seems to have improved.

Also, since we're all on EDGE, any data transfer that takes place (of at least a few hundred KBs) will consume more battery than, say, over 3G which has a lesser latency and higher transfer speed (think of it as the amount of data transferred per unit of time) - so ideally, I wouldn't sync many things except for the basics, and where possible, use wifi.

Man.

Btw, since I've used two Nexus devices, I find the lure of getting updates fresh very significant - but other OEMs generally tend to have more colorful (and small helpful) additions (but updates take ages). Also, considering most OEMs now have their apps on the market, they've reduced the need to update and all. I'm now sitting on the fence (previously, I was a Nexus-only guy) since OS upgrades aren't being heavily emphasized on, but... what do you guys say?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Afridi.. You beauty...salute...

Hi guys...how's everyone :p

Sent from someone else's Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Incredible innings man! Still cant believe it ?. Maza aa gaya. ?
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Jitna mza aj aya, luv u lala, lovely cricket by pak
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Plz explain dis **** my phone is dead in the morning with 7-9 percent battery left
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Lol, which ROM is this?

I myself dont know what happened there. Hope it doesnt happen again. U have any battery stats app like (i use Gsam). See what caused high battery drain.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Why is it showing your screen on time when you never used your phone.. it's like screen was turned on from last hour or so..

Sent from someone else's Nexus 4