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[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
It doesn't look like anyone has posted the full review yet, so here you go. :)

Anandtech Review

Turns out the issue with performance was actually due to new drivers, which allow for the full suite of benchmarks to be run. As a result, the CPU gets throttled after all that torture testing.

The new benchmarks, done without running the full suite, are posted in the review.
[Nexus 4 General] PoisonWolf:
OMG. The battery life IS atrocious. Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] TheSopranos16:
Yeah the battery really is bad. Its the most concerning issue right now for me as I debate whether or not to pull the trigger on this. My biggest concern is the cellular talk time and the wifi hotspot time. Those things can't really be blamed on the cpu thermal throttling issues as neither are CPU intensive tasks. Would a software update really even have the potential to fix those particular benchmarks?

EDIT: Unless the radio drivers are just really poor? That might explain the bad benchmarks on web browsing too since data would be in use the entire time for those benchmarks as well. Maybe then there is hope for a software improvement to battery life? I really hate buying things based on what they might be able to do in the future vs what I know they can do now :(
[Nexus 4 General] PoisonWolf:
Not if you want to fry your internals. Lol.

I'm guessing that the heat cannot dissipate effectively because of the screen on the front which is emanating heat, and the damn wireless inductive charging pad which is, in my mind, like a blanket. And I'm not even sure how effective glass is at displacing heat when couple with plastic.

But actually, cellular talk does release heat. Have you not noticed your phone getting hot when talking for extended periods of time? I believe the radio chip gets hot, maybe not necessarily the CPU. Regardless of where the heat is coming from, however, the sensors may still pick up on it. *shrugs*.

I'd advise you to wait 3 ~ 4 weeks if you can. Don't waste your time being the early adopter and wasting time dealing with early-release issues.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Well, every bad for a good we say where I'm from. :)

Looks like a whole bunch of us are gonna wait for exactly that.

On the review, keep in mind that we're not sure what version of the software all those test units use. Probably an unfinished version..
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
It hasn't really come together for me...

- No 32GB or Micro SD

- Poor battery life still, the update hasn't fixed it

- Poor benchmark results

I wanted to buy cause I thought it would be a bargain powerhouse but in the end it is obvious why the thing is so cheap. I'll just wait for my upgrade in April and get the GS4 if that is any good but until then my GS2 is doing just fine.
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
Seems fine.. compared to the Galaxy Nexus, which I regularly get 2 days at at time out of, the battery rates about the same, so no worries for me.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
well, iv been "forced" to wait now, i was trying to order earlier today in the UK, but maybe it was a good thing i didnt get it yet
[Nexus 4 General] hippieschuh:
Well the "battery" test involves using chrome so...chrome sucks lot of power

not realy a good battery test imho
[Nexus 4 General] TheSopranos16:
Agreed. Chrome really isn't ready for prime time in my experience. Even on my Nexus 7, I use dolphin and its much smoother and faster than Chrome.

So even if we throw out the browser tests because of Chrome, why the low talk times compared to other phones with smaller batteries?
[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
My take away is:

Software - Great

Design - Great

Performance - Good, could get better with kernels

Camera - Par

Battery Life - Par

More realistic than the sky high expectations set by everyone for a $350 off-contract phone.
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
I'm sorry but benchmarks mean sweet FA. My GNex is faster in actual usage than my One X although the One X is 3 times faster in Quadrant. Battery life is completely subject to usage - I don't believe their graphs as my One X is pitiful compared to my Nexus. Whereas me Nexus would be at 80%+ at this time of day my One X is currently sitting at 62% as I type with the same minimal work day usage
[Nexus 4 General] tameracingdriver:
Really wanted this phone, but there are a number of areas that mean quite a lot to me to be honest, it hasn't really delivered:-

1. Battery life - no getting away from it, its poor. Marginally better than the GNex but no so much you would notice, despite a bigger battery.

2. Camera quality - Yes again, its better (not difficult), but somehow, it just isn't as good as it could be. Slightly slow shutter speed, average quality.

3. Audio quality - We haven't yet seen the full score with that, but again, the consensus seems to be "average"

4. Storage capacity - even less than the GNex (8/16 vs 16/32). We don't all have access to 4G internet and no limits to store all of our files in the cloud.

Now, yes I appreciate this is really nit-picking but I'm not really unhappy with the performance of my GNex, and it will still get the update. It is not slow, or choppy, and as such, with the values of the GNex how they stand, I'm reluctant to fork out £150 to upgrade to a phone, which no doubt is an upgrade, but not one you'll notice very easily.

As it stands, I'm thinking that vanilla android alone is not enough to make it a worthwhile swap over something like an HTC One X+, despite the price difference. OK the N4 has a faster CPU and more RAM, but I'm not much of games player, but it has a better screen, camera, sound quality and more storage. Or a Galaxy Note which is just as fast, much better battery life, bigger screen, expandable, better camera etc.

I can see why this phone is cheaper than the competition TBH. I am a big fan of Vanilla Android, but there can be no denying it plays second fiddle on *most* specs (all but RAM, CPU and , possibly screen).

BUT, I'll probably still get one, LOL.
[Nexus 4 General] Thoughtful:
Yeh one thing that puzzles me is they have the LTE One X topping the charts for most of the battery tests alongside the iPhone. However, wasn't the One X knocked for only having a 1800 mAH battery and poor battery life? Or was that only for the Tegra One X?
[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
Tegra
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
I should really qualify my last statement with I'm currently running the JB test build from HTC (as I'm a member of Elevate) so it's not on the final build but even on ICS it was poor compared to my Nexus. I can't see me having any issues with the N4 as I don't game/listen to music on my phone - it's purely a communication tool so email/FB/Twitter/SMSs/calls is the order of the day for me
[Nexus 4 General] crazyalaa:
Benchmarking wise the Nexus 4 is a joke. People were talking about this miraculous ota that will make it better but nothing happened. The camera isn't among the best and battery life sucks. Jeez, iPhone 5 with LTE is way better than the 3G Nexus 4. We can hate on Apple as much as we want but sometimes they get the job done way better than android makers/vendors.

I wanted this phone so bad but now I can wait to see what happens.
[Nexus 4 General] asasione:
The sad part is tests rarely reflect reality, people get poor battery life on the iPhone 5 despite the controlled tests suggesting it should have excellent battery life, moral of the story is YMMV, its not as cut and dry as raw data correlating to reproducible performance. The benchmarks aren't great so there is one criteria left and that is how it performs in real world usage cause I'm not going to benchmarking like a maniac as it serves no benefit, as I actually want to use my phone. I'd say it passes that criteria well from numerous reviews. Camera quality (video) is reportedly improved though have to wait for Anandtech to update the review and upload new videos. I'll be getting mine in December wanna wait for some cases and then pull the trigger on the purchase
[Nexus 4 General] Nospin:
Benchmarking wise benchmarking doesn't have to do with anything. Jesus.....
[Nexus 4 General] eep2378:
I'm assuming all these reports of poor battery life include Google Now being enabled. I know its a key feature on JB(4.1/4.2) but I use it on CM10 now and its a HUGE battery drainer. When i turn it off, my battery life is markedly better. I'm assuming if you turn it off with the N4 you'll see better battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] darkcurrent:
why do you guys say it has bad battery life when the battery life is about the same as the S3?

6 hours of web browsing, with screen on at 200 nit, on wifi seems pretty good to me!
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
U can change the battery on the GS3 though.
[Nexus 4 General] düdldihüü:
Honestly, I can't imagine that the Anandtech guys have had the final version when they made their review. So, let's just wait for reviews using the final version of the phone and see what they bring. I ordered mine today, and if it should not be to my satisfaction, I'll just send it back. Easy as that.
[Nexus 4 General] red12355:
Nice, a very thorough review. I wonder what happened to all the haters saying Anandtech is biased?
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
They don't make these phones and package them and deliver to shops with a day to go...

These phones would have been manufactured like a month to two months ago.
[Nexus 4 General] düdldihüü:
Yes, sure, but all we've seen so far were pre-release samples. I just wonder why Anandtech should have final products if noone else does.
[Nexus 4 General] red12355:
How do you know that all the other review had pre-release samples? The hardware looks exactly like the shipping hardware. The only difference should be the software, and Anandtech mentioned that they got the OTA.
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
Seemed a fair review.

Decent phone.. not the best in the world, but half the price of what it's competing against (and it's not really 'competing' really.. google don't care which phone you buy as long as it's android).
[Nexus 4 General] düdldihüü:
There were only a few, and they said that it was a pre-release sample (e.g. TheVerge).
[Nexus 4 General] clockworkmodsucks:
All you guys complaining about battery life just wait for custom roms and for me I think it will be a bit of an upgrade from a Sony Ericsson X10a. :p
[Nexus 4 General] Konsyst:
Android battery life is subject to a large number of factors. There is always something that can be done to improve it, like removing battery sucking apps, installing newer kernels, managing data/wifi/radios better etc. I've had substantial improvements to battery life after doing these things, and you'll never find them in early reviews of stock software.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
You're absolutely right. When i had my Gnex, battery life wasnt that great but then i installed the james bond kernel ( that was like 7 months ago lol) and battery life significantly improved, HUGE improvement. This is just getting started.
[Nexus 4 General] gogol:
Battery life is pathetic, barely beat Galaxy Nexus which has smaller capacity.

I was expecting the battery life is much better because it has 350 mAH more, IPS screen should be more efficient, S4 pro should also be more efficient compare to Galaxy Nexus.

And the benchmark is bad...

Oh well...
[Nexus 4 General] D3m0x:
I dont want to look like a noob but, 5Whr< 8Whr or not???????????

xD
[Nexus 4 General] crazyalaa:
When we criticize the phone we don't mean to bash it for no reason. Everyone here wants this phone and seeing how impressive Optimus G turned out to be I was even more excited. I mean sh*t, the phone has unbelievable specs but something is just not right. Battery life and benchmarks don't add up. Of course benchmarking isn't everything but it gives some sort of indication.

I don't know, I still want it. I don't care about the quadrant score as much as I care about the battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] :
To be honest I don't see what the fuss is about. The fact that Optimus G is getting such good battery life (coupled with the fact that we know how efficient the hardware is) suggests that there are some issues with the current software. Personally not worried - just a matter of time before both Google fix the problems, and custom ROMs, kernels, and other addons become available. This said, Anandtech never did any battery tests with the Optimus G (just going off reports from most other reviews stating that the OG had fantastic battery life) so it's a case of waiting and seeing.

As for the rest of the review, to be honest it's as expected. The camera is okay at best, the sound quality will likely be okay, with few other drawbacks.

As for whether it's the best Android device out there...that's a matter of opinion. After faffing about with the international S3 and the slow development over there (at the fault of Samsung, not the devs), constant quality issues with both iPhones and the S3, and generally not seeing any other options that are perfect, the Nexus offers both superior hardware and a better experience at a significantly lower price. Obviously, if the camera, low storage and having a top-notch DAC are your priorities, this isn't the phone for you. However, aside from these three things, there aren't really any drawbacks. Provided that there aren't any build issues, this will likely turn out to be the best device out there for me at the moment.
[Nexus 4 General] darkcurrent:
Are you saying the s3 battery life is pathetic? the n4 performs similarly to the s3 and I don't hear them complaining about poor battery life....

6 hrs of wifi browsing seems pretty decent for me... much more than what I could get with my skyrocket.

I know battery is not replaceable... but it seems it could get through a day.
[Nexus 4 General] cbutters:
For me it's all about the non pentile ips screen and the fast 4g combined on t-mobile in 1 device! That's all I have wanted for a long time.
[Nexus 4 General] -sandro-:
Even tough battery is affected by apps and google now I honestly doubt that people at Anandtech allowed these factors to change the results...I mean they''re battery life tests experts in some way ;P Yes the battery life in 3g/wifi does suck, if you could swap batteries this wouldn't matter. Google just can't optimize the hardware/software and made really bad choices in the design, even the previous Nexus' sucked at 3g browsing.
[Nexus 4 General] FlukerFlakes:
If it can get 6 hours of wifi browsing...I'm good.

My average day is only about 45 minutes with the screen on and playing spotify to and from work. Bottom line, the nexus 4 will be way better than the nexus s im coming from
[Nexus 4 General] sillmacka:
to buy or not buy

Ok guys, since a lot of you seem worried about the benchmarks and the battery life of the Nexus 4 and questioning if you should buy it, I would like to share a quote from Brian Klugs (the Anandtech reviwer) twitterfeed @ nerdtalker:

" Nexus 4 is awesome go buy it. Seriously."
[Nexus 4 General] dynamicpda:
I am one of those who has decided to wait, as much as the early adopter in me wants to jump on it right now.

I really hope that whatever issues can arise fixed in 3 - 4 weeks, ie are not permanent design flaws.

The pattern of engineering incompetence evident in our Nexus phones is disconcerting.
[Nexus 4 General] D3m0x:
Brenchmark brenchmark brenchmark... lalalalalala... STFU and enjoy the n4, its fast, is cute, its pure google, and cost 299$.

- But D3m0x, brenchmark test say that the phone its slow compare with iPhone5 !!!! And battery life suck!!!

-You cant get it?? 299 and I already told you what N4 is, so, if you dont like his cons, GET ANOTHER PHONE!
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
Those benchmarks made me depressed for a second as I look at my GNex.

Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
I don't want to have to ROM this thing up to try and get half decent battery life, the reason I've ordered one is because I want vanilla Android out of the box and no messing around flashing all the time. If it doesn't get as good battery life as my S3 out of the box then I'm sending it back. I'm already doubtful about whether I'll keep it anyway due to the 16GB max storage. Rubbish battery life will be the final nail in the coffin.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Kernels! Still have to flash them, yes, but they don't require re-configuring the whole ROM after a flash. And really that where the biggest difference in battery life is found, once you've ditched the manufacturer skin, which this doesn't have anyway. So, Kernels!
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
It won't. Not by a long shot in some cases, like phone calls. Might as well save yourself the hassle and send it back now/cancel your order.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/2

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GTFO, fanboy. "Nexus is cute" lol what a ****ing joke you are.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Unless I'm crazy I'd say it performs similar to the S3 in battery life (except for one area). This doesn't translate to poor battery life. Your welcome to argue you POV. Also why is this guy getting the same results as the freezer tests, read through thread or do a search
[Nexus 4 General] ruzkay:
why is everyone complaining about battery life, if u browse more than 4 hours on 3g you would probably just take your laptop with you o.O i mean almost 8 hours talking... sounds good to me o: ofc its not like in the old days where it holds out a week without charging but its not like any other smartphone does that... as long as it holds a day of regular use (and it does easily) i dont see whats there to complain

ps: i believe that unbelievably high lte battery lives depend heavily on your location... not that i care since theres no lte network where i live anyway...
[Nexus 4 General] Phorce:
The Hype!

Nexus 4 is a mediocre performer do not want one any more!
[Nexus 4 General] Pratz852:
I´m not understanding, how the Iphone 5 has the best Battery Life??? It may have a smaller screen etc. but weren´t people complaining about iphone 5 battery life??

And I remember seeing a chart, where in batterylife comparison the Galaxy S3 was ahead of the iphone 5.

Or were the issues of the iPhone 5 solved somehow?!
[Nexus 4 General] :
I'd say that battery life on my 5 is significantly worse than on my 4S (which was better than my S3).

Battery life on Wi-Fi appears to be fine, but on 3G, it's terrible. The 5 may have some software issues.
[Nexus 4 General] Pratz852:
Well do you honestly get 10h of Webbrowsing on wifi and 8h on LTE?! - if so I´d most probably say it´s because of the mimimal multitasking iOS does and the screen size probably also is of importance.

On top of that it´s weird to get almost the double life on LTE than on 3G as I always heard that LTE is more battery consuming.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Better battery life than Sony Xperia S with its tiny 1750mAh Lipo.
[Nexus 4 General] mesasone:
I think people are really confused on what benchmarks are. They are neither the final determinate in the end user experience nor are they worthless. They provide important metrics regarding very specific capabilities of the device. They provide very valuable information about the phones strengths and weaknesses, and if a phone performs poorly in certain regards it can allow developers (be they app or rom/kernel devs) to try to work around the weakness. Consider for example the read issues on the first Galaxy S, which were improved greatly by changing the file system used.

It also calls into question the methods of testing commonly used by reviewers. If a phone performs poorly because you're running a dozen benchmarks in rapid fire succession, it tells us a little something about the devices thermal performance but little about it's capabilities with regards to what that benchmark is testing. More interestingly, even after discovering the issues with heat dissipation, Anandtech still neglected to due any sort of thermal testing to determine if this issue would crop up in real world use (I'm thinking primarily gaming here). Perhaps that is due to a lack of a suitable benchmark tool (such as a looping game demo) to test it's performance in this regard.

LTE modems tended to use more battery because they are not as mature as 3G chips yet, but I believe by now that has started to change. LTE can get potentially better battery life due to the fact that it can (in theory) download it's data and return to an idle state quicker due to the higher data rates. In the real world YMMV.
[Nexus 4 General] MarkGbe:
it does have software issues.... IOS. HA!
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Yea I really think you're on to something. I had the exact same experience with cm10 on my One X...battery life sucked with Google Now enabled and is great with it turned off. I have no use for Now, so turning off was a no brainer for me.
[Nexus 4 General] glenroebuck:
On Battery Life, I think you missed the part where he said "that being said I was never want for battery life and got a full days use out of it"

What I think is important is the phone is middle to top of the pack in most and costs 1/2 of any carrier agnostic phone.
[Nexus 4 General] :
LTE radios are far better than they used to be, as per mesasone's post. I can't give any LTE figures, as I'm based in the UK on a very fast 3G-only network. Battery life on Wi-Fi is definitely approaching Apple's claims, however the battery life drops massively on 3G. Granted, the area I live in gets 1-3 bars of signal (out of 5) and outside of this, 3-5 bars (not the most scientific measurement I know), however it definitely falls very short of Apple's claims here. I can't give exact figures, but I'm estimate around 2.75 hours of browsing on 3G.

The difference is more going to be the hardware, the iPhone 5 is massively powerful, and Apple have an extremely powerful and efficient SoC. That's just the way of the world. However, iOS does suspend apps very quickly and has strict rules with regards to background tasks in order to get as much time out of a charge as possible. In all fairness to it, the system does work well for the average user. For me it's not ideal, watching video on TVCatchup, switching out to send a text message, only to come back and find that I have to reselect the channel I was watching and click through the advertisements again, but the average Joe isn't going to care.

To be honest, I think Apple have fallen short with the iPhone 5's battery life. Once everything is sorted (if there are even any problems with the software in the first place), I'm expecting the Nexus 4 to do far better.

Wow, never saw that one coming :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Because iOS is a lot more optimized than Android. It uses Machine code. No virtual machines. Why do you think its a lot smoother?

Also, to the haters saying that Android multitasks and iOS doesnt; here's a task. Play a song on the Android youtube app and hit the home button. Does it keep playing? On iOS, you can keep it playing ;) Way too many damn fanboys here :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
^^

Don't forget being able to make folders.

P. S. Or, the extra row! Or was it column? Difficult to keep up with all the innovation over there..
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
What hardware feature does the N4 bring over the Gnex? aside from HDR, absolutely ZERO new features. It's the exact same as Iphone 4 to 4S, so stop *****ing. I have one ordered, and I love the N4, but anyone who claims that iPhone isn't a good phone is just an ignorant moron.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
...not much in the way of hardware "features" has been added in a long time. There are a lot of hardware improvements to the N4 over the Gnex.

Oh, and wireless charging.

I agree though, iPhone's are excellent devices, for the right people. Pretty much anyone can pick it up and be perfectly happy with it. But you just can't quite own it like you can an android. And for people that are willing to put the effort into making their device fit them, iPhone's aren't worth the limitation.
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Just as you said, people can just pick them up and start using them without any hassle. At the same time, anyone who is into customization can jailbreak their iphone. It's actually easier to jailbreak an iPhone than to use a custom ROM on Android.