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[Nokia Lumia 920] netgh0st:
I don't quite get the thole APN and tethering situation. I'm using an LG Optimus 7 (WP7) which I flashed with a Personal ROM (Argentina) to get internet sharing working. I used the network settings app from LG, and both data on the phone and internet sharing work correctly on Telus. But I'm confused whether the internet sharing on WP7 has a different APN from the data APN on the phone, and more than that, I doubt that LG's settings app would have these settings for Telus anyway since Telus officially never released a firmware update with internet sharing.

So the question I have is - why would internet sharing not work with sp.telus.com? How in the world would Telus know if you are tethering or if you are just browsing internet on your phone?
[Nokia Lumia 920] tvailment:
The carriers can tell if your tethering by looking at the packets. Some will charge you if you don't have the right plan, others will block you, others are not looking yet.
[Nokia Lumia 920] golfman32:
Wow

I, too, scored a returned unit @ 50% off. The returned unit i purchased was locked to Rogers. If you purchased 50% off unit without a contract, you are lucky, Rogers rule is that used phone can only be purchased on contract, I was lucky to have someone with Rogers contract put the phone under his contract.
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Are you sure of that rule? I've picked up three phones from two different stores and none of them have asked me toi sign a contract. Twice, they didn't even care if I was a Rogers customer.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Lethbridge:
I bought mine used as well from them, no contract either.
[Nokia Lumia 920] gnrthx:
Anyone know if the newest batch still works with fido? I am hearing that there are 43rd to 47th build now.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
Fido uses the same network as Rogers because it is basically the same company. So even the phone is locked, you still will be able to use it. It just looks like the case of AT&T and Straight Talk in US.
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Confirmed that the batch from 46/2012 works with Fido without any changes. Confirmed due to the fact that I dropped and cracked the screen on my first phone (45/2012) and had to pick up another one! :crying:
[Nokia Lumia 920] EG8196:
I am waiting the unlock code from cellunlocker for my 47/2012 NL920

EDIT:

They just issued me a refund, they couldn't find the code....
[Nokia Lumia 920] jeromel:
Wasn't lucky, I just know how to schmooze enough and know when to semi-distract sales people. ;)
[Nokia Lumia 920] ramzy2001:
Fido sim on Rogers phone,

My Lumia Rogers Phone was working fine with the fido sim card, today it's not working saying no sim, !!!
[Nokia Lumia 920] fidos:
I had the same problem too. I tried to insert a Rogers sim card and I was getting the error message. I took it back to Rogers and they replaced it as a faulty device.
[Nokia Lumia 920] denispage:
I've been in 3 stores this morning (Eaton Centre, Downtown and another one in PATH).

No one has the Lumia 920, and everyone said that will sell only locked devices (including the month-to-month contract) and they'll receive 'sometime this week'.

In Eaton Centre maybe they'll receive today afternoon.

Is there anyway to unlock the Rogers devices? I remember that was an easy task with Lumia 900. Maybe they're gonna follow same path...

I've just received an email from Expansys and GsmNation.

Expansys (cheaper) will have some models next week and GsmNation will start to sell unlocked devices this Friday.

I'll back to Brazil on Friday. So, my only hope is to get one from Rogers and unlock using a code.

Wish me luck! :)
[Nokia Lumia 920] Nebulaeus:
Rogers will unlock it for you for $50 as long as you don't owe any subsidy on it. Yeah, if the AT&T unlocked Lumia will work that is probably the way I will go.
[Nokia Lumia 920] denispage:
Rogers will unlock for $50. Are you sure?

The guys in the store didn't say that. Is there any notification or webpage to show to them?

I think about to pay even 1000 dollars to get an unlocked one!

I've try to find someone selling on the ebay here in Canada, but there is no one.

Thanks VERY MUCH! =)

There's still hope!
[Nokia Lumia 920] Nebulaeus:
denispage did you check expansys? If I can confirm that this one works I might order it later today:

http://www.expansys.ca/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-cyan-att-branded-239255/

They even have colors and stuff.
[Nokia Lumia 920] denispage:
I've checked, is locked to AT&T and there is no guarantee to delivery until Friday (Available to order, normally arrives in 5-10 days).

:(
[Nokia Lumia 920] Nebulaeus:
Waiting 5 to 10 days is not the end of the world for me. Are you sure they are still locked though? it _is_ listed under unlocked phones on their site:

http://www.expansys.ca/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-cyan-att-branded-239255/

What is the point of selling the phone locked? Especially at the $200 premium over AT&T's no contract price? I emailed expansys waiting for a reply. If this thing is unlocked I'm gonna pull the trigger.
[Nokia Lumia 920] denispage:
I've just called them, and is locked :(

Today, there is only one unlocked (ready to ship) WP8. HTC 8X Blue.

I've ordered one with fastest shipment (CND27 3 business days). With taxes (13%), I've paid CND 711.32.

And the attendant told me that I'll receive until Friday.

I'll still try to get a Lumia 920 here in Rogers and try to get the unlock code in the store as you said.

I'll keep this thread updated. :)
[Nokia Lumia 920] Nebulaeus:
Dude... Expansys just emailed me back and stated it IS unlocked:

On 2012-11-13, at 10:30 , "########## (Sales, EXPANSYS USA)" <##########@expansys.com> wrote:

Hello,

http://www.expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-cyan-att-branded-239255/ is unlocked and would likely ship in about 5-10 business days if you ordered today.

Thank you,

############

Customer Service

We Love: The Samsung Galaxy S III

OFFICE (309) 834-0344

AVAILABLE 10-12:30, 1:30-5 CST Mon-Fri

FAX (309) 294-8500

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"Ensign, set a course for the unlocked Lumia 920 system. Maximum warp. Engage!!!"
[Nokia Lumia 920] HLef:
Okay so... does this mean I can buy the cyan phone, activate it on Telus and basically the only difference is there's an AT&T logo on it?

Will it be likely to encounter issues with things like MMS and tethering? They seem to be iffy features in some cases.

I want nothing to do with Rogers... this looks like a real option to me.
[Nokia Lumia 920] Nebulaeus:
if it's unlocked yeah, should be good to go. Here are the bands from the MS site for the AT&T Lumia 920:

GSM 850; GSM 900; GSM 1800; GSM 1900; W-CDMA 850; W-CDMA 900; W-CDMA 1900; W-CDMA 2100; LTE 2100; LTE 700; LTE 1700

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/phones/nokia/nokia-lumia-920?model=rm-820

Make sure Telus works with those.
[Nokia Lumia 920] denispage:
As the customer services said. They don't have any unlocked lumia 920 to ship TODAY. They're gonna have next week. Because of that, they're saying 'ship in about 5-10 business days'. It doesn't work for me, because I'll return to Brazil this Friday. There is only ONE unlocked device for ship TODAY. And is HTC 8x Blue.
[Nokia Lumia 920] HLef:
I believe Telus roams on AT&T so it shouldn't be an issue. Wikipedia says Frequency Band: 1900
[Nokia Lumia 920] Nebulaeus:
Ahhhh okay gotcha. It sounded like they were gonna sell them locked when they shipped them. Hence the confusion. Sorry about that :) Thanks for clearing that up.

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Telus LTE is 1700/2100. You should be good to go.
[Nokia Lumia 920] denispage:
I've got one in a Rogers store. I didn't unlock yet, because to unlock I have to have at least a pre paid account with CND 50 on it to the system give me the unlock code. I've made the prepaid account and I have to wait to activate to try to unlock.

So, tomorrow I'll back there.

There is a webpage that can unlock http://unlock.canadagsm.ca/nokia/Nokia-Lumia-920-LTE-network-unlock/ I've paid CND 25 to unlock and I'm waiting. If I receive the code from the webpage before tomorrow morning , I'll make a refund from Rogers.

Keep you guys updated.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
Are you be able to buy it unlock right out of the store or you have to buy the unlock separately? Also, does the phone box say the same as the early device?
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Have you tried inserting your SIM in there to check whether it's locked? I've just picked up one from Rogers and can use it on the Fido network without unlocking. I'll go home and test with my Bell\Telus SIM's too.
[Nokia Lumia 920] geoken:
Can you also do a manual network scan and see if Wind shows up?
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
I can try, but Victoria does not have Wind and Mobilicity coverage at all.
[Nokia Lumia 920] froibet:
wind rep here,

we got news that victoria does have coverage, it's just not well enough to start advertising
[Nokia Lumia 920] SohKai:
In Waterloo, ON, I'm seeing Rogers, Wind, Bell, and Telus when I search for networks.

So yeah, I'm pretty much seeing every network.

Unfortunately won't have access to a Bell sim till tomorrow at the earliest to test if it's actually unlocked or not. The rep did tell me it was locked, but I think they're all required to tell you that on a new purchase from company protocol. When I told him about the earlier batch being unlocked, he said the new batches might be unlocked too.
[Nokia Lumia 920] charlatan01:
If the current supposition is true, you purchasing that phone from Rogers 'implies' that it's unlocked already. It would probably be helpful if you can take a pic of the box label with the model number information? Also, as suggested, can you test to see if the Wind APN shows up?
[Nokia Lumia 920] SohKai:
Here's my box:
[Nokia Lumia 920] AngelSpirit:
I bought an LTE sim card from fido since the one I had in my focus didn't obviously worked.

I had trouble making it work. It's kinda weird, it list my "operator" with the number instead of mentioning it's fido, but it works. Took a while to make it work, had to call 2 times Fido, but it works.

In order for me to be able to buy the phone from Rogers I had to activate a month to month payment. I'll call tomorrow to cancel my account unless they offer the exact same plan/cost (or lower) to me.
[Nokia Lumia 920] charlatan01:
Thanks! I think you may want to replace this pic with one that blocks out the IMEI... not super sensitive, but I don't think you want it 'out there'. When did you buy this one?
[Nokia Lumia 920] SohKai:
I just got it today from my local Rogers. They said it just arrived in their store in the afternoon.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
Did you ask them if they have many in stock or just limited amount?
[Nokia Lumia 920] jeromel:
Yeah, it was from the Oct 30th batch.

Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 920] SohKai:
They said that was the only one they had in stock. I did try as hard as I could to pester them into trying to find one that might have came in last week, but had no luck.
[Nokia Lumia 920] tai4de2:
The NaviFirm firmware for this device contains this file:

NWP8_WP8_Rogers_Fido_simlock_crcFCB5.bin

This suggests that being locked to Rogers and being locked to Fido are the same thing... or put another way, having it work on Fido doesn't prove that the device is unlocked.

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Couple of interesting things.

(1) This shows that whatever batch you got has the same band support as the pre-order batch, which is good news. It's good to know that the pentaband support was not just an anomaly.

(2) Your box shows 45/2012. Mine shows 43/2012. That's probably a week/year thing. It might mean when the device was manufactured or maybe when it was put in the box. Apparently 2 weeks separate the pre-order batch from the first mainline batch.
[Nokia Lumia 920] froibet:
i can say that the 920s you pick up now are locked.

i got one today and it is locked. as for searching for the network, even with the locked 920, you can still see WIND Mobilicity, Bell, Telus, and Rogers

it's just a matter of time before we get unlock codes.

sidenote:

i called in rogers about unlocking my device. the rep said that they dont even have my IMEI in database right now and would need to fax in my invoice to get it unlocked. what about you guys?
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Confirmed that these phones are locked. I've tried Fido and it works, but my Bell and Telus SIM's will not.

Additionally, these are just trickling in. Only one store in Victoria got them and they only got three today.
[Nokia Lumia 920] AngelSpirit:
anybody using his lumia 920 with fido?

Whats your LTE speed? and how does your provider shows up on screen?

See:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=B01A5AED4F52EB20!363&authkey=!ACkrXeMbVCoqFKo

and

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=B01A5AED4F52EB20!362&authkey=!AA2ilpI9_zbH88A

When I did speed test, best result I got was arround 9ish Mbits.
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Fido here too. My provider shows up the same way as yours (302720 in the cellular settings) and "Home service" on the home screen.

BTW, did you enter the APN for Fido LTE. I was only getting a 3G service till I did so - entered the APN as "ltemobile.apn" and then I started seeing LTE. At home right now with no LTE service, but will check speeds out at the office where I used to see about 22-26Mbps down with my Motorola RAZR HD.
[Nokia Lumia 920] AngelSpirit:
Thanks for the heads up!

I did not enter any apn as it was working when I entered the sim. However I tried the apn you mentionned, but I am getting the same speed. So I imagine the area I'm in (eastern downtown montreal) doesn't provide better speed?
[Nokia Lumia 920] AngelSpirit:
Well, after getting to work. LTE actually works. I guess the area where I live is a dead LTE zone.

So that's good news ;)
[Nokia Lumia 920] geoken:
That's awesome. At least we know it will still work if the phone is unlocked.
[Nokia Lumia 920] AngelSpirit:
it's already possible to unlock lumia 920 via a few websites.
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Has anyone actually tried to get an unlock code from these sites?
[Nokia Lumia 920] AngelSpirit:
see this thread:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...unlock-code-to-use-with-Bell-Chatr-Fido-Telus
[Nokia Lumia 920] ile2010:
I usually use cellunlocker.net, and they do have the phone unlisted for a $15 unlock. However, they refunded my money after not being able to do it

I paid $25 to unlock.canadagsm.ca last night and am still waiting.
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
A lot of these sites claim they can get you a code, but then say they can't find your IMEI. I'm not saying that they are crooks - they will refund your money back. Still, one wastes time trying to get these codes.

Hopefully, CanadaGSM can get you the unlock codes.
[Nokia Lumia 920] ile2010:
Nope, just got my refund from them. I'll probably return my phone to Rogers. Without confirming that it will work on Wind, I'm not paying Rogers $50+ to unlock it.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
Hear anything from CanadaGSM?
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
I just heard back from CanadaGSM that they cannot find the codes for the 920 as yet. They've asked me to wait 2-3 days to see if they can get the codes.
[Nokia Lumia 920] froibet:
same deal with me. If not, then I gotta fax Rogers my invoice
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
My guess is that they have to wait for Roger to actually provide them with the code given that Roger only released the phone yesterday, so it's probably new to their system.
[Nokia Lumia 920] froibet:
when I called in yesterday, they didn't even have records of my imei. They said I need to fax my invoice to them
[Nokia Lumia 920] dougwallace:
Faxed mine in as well.

What will happen now? Does the fax service pick these up fast?
[Nokia Lumia 920] timriley:
Question for those that couldn't buy the phone out of contract with Rogers and were forced to get the month-to-month plan: were you able to basically cancel it as soon as you got home (and swallowed the minimum charge of $55 for their lowest plan + $35 activation charge)?

The other side of this story is that, from what I understand, in order for you to get the unlock code from Rogers directly (via their $50 service), it is necessary to still be active with Rogers. Since no other unlocking sites are offering codes for these phones yet (there are a few reports of successful unlock code purchases from Rogers though), I guess we're stuck with having to leave our phone activated with them anyways until we can get the unlock code from them?
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Yes, you can do that. I've done that in the past with Rogers. Note that the minimum plan is $27 (100 mins of talk etc.) and there is no activation fee for the month to month contract. Basically, the phone costs you $549 + $27 (and taxes). Cheaper than the $599 hardware purchase price.
[Nokia Lumia 920] adamz:
In Settings > System > Ease of Access, does the Rogers Lumia 920 have the option to use speech for speed dial, call forwarding, and announcing caller ID? It seems some of the European ones do not have that option.
[Nokia Lumia 920] cao0215:
just call rogers and unlock my phone , now it works good in telus. The only thing is the tethering is disabled by rogers. I cant

open my hotspot.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
You might want to share what your experience? I assume that you buy the phone outright, off-contract, so how long did you wait to call them after you got the phone. Also, when you called them, did they say anything about fee or your device IMEI not in the database yet?

About the tethering, what do you mean that you can't open hotspot? Are you be able to turn the Internet Sharing on, but it does not work, or you cannot turn it on completly?

Anyway, great that you unlock the phone and we all sure that Roger phone is easy than AT&T. :victory:
[Nokia Lumia 920] cao0215:
i buy off contract, i got my phone yesterday, and i try cellunlocker.net, and 2 other unlock sites, and all refund and told me come back later. So i dont want to wait, and call rogers unlock department and wait around 40 min and when i provide my IMEI, the rep gave me the unlock code, and it works. of course, 50+tax will show on my rogers bill.

when i open tethering, it will automaticly show i dont have sharable data. But i have 6G data with telus, and i can use in my NOTE 2 , galaxy s3, and iphone 5. i cant turn on the internet sharing in my unlock phone, and i think rogers now block this feature like ATT.

hope this will help u.:)
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
So Roger actually willing to unlock for $50 :eek:. But that nice more than AT&T. About tethering, what I understand is you tried to open the tethering option, but it displayed the message that you don't have eligible plan right? Have you try to add some keyboard and hopefully trigger an update that some people in this forum did.
[Nokia Lumia 920] cao0215:
wt is the meaning of adding the keyboard? like i add any keyboard? if so , i ll try it later and write the feedback here.

Thanks
[Nokia Lumia 920] timriley:
Ah, I didn't realize they had a cheaper plan with no activation fee! That must be an in-store only option I'll have to ask for when I purchase the phone? On Roger's website, I now see that there is an option to customize the plan on a month-to-month - it shows the $27/mo plan, but it appears to force me to buy a minimum $15 data plan on top of that and also shows a $35 activation fee (online that is). So the in-store plan options are different then?
[Nokia Lumia 920] rajeshr:
Yes, they don't force you on to a data plan in store. All you need to do is to sign up for a month to month voice plan.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
Kind of adding another keyboard language beside your current language.
[Nokia Lumia 920] cao0215:
still cant use internet sharing.:(
[Nokia Lumia 920] timriley:
Ah, thanks for the tip. I just stopped by a RogersPlus store and see that they have a 'no activation fee' promo until tomorrow. The salesrep was hopeful that they will extend it indefinitely since it was originally brought in to match Telus' elimination of activation fees. The store I was at (Calgary, North Hill mall) had nice Lumia920 displays up outside and display models inside, but the saleskid seemed sad that they had yet to receive a single Lumia920 (they've been checking daily and their store's inventory keeps saying 'backordered'. Seems to be a real lack of Lumia's here in Calgary (I think only a handful of stores have gotten them so far) vs. my brother in Toronto walked into 2 Rogers stores and they had them in stock.
[Nokia Lumia 920] exiva:
Does the new locked batch still support AWS for HSPA?
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
Have you receive an OTA update? Also, check for APN settings.

Yes it is.
[Nokia Lumia 920] cao0215:
APN is ok, and i checked OTA update,but nothing there.
[Nokia Lumia 920] spincel:
If I have the phone, I would have try to figure that out, but I don't :(. Okay so how about try reset the phone, then add a Spanish keyboard. If you can select APN, try to change it to LTE2 or something and then see if it works or not.
[Nokia Lumia 920] geoken:
According to someone in this thread Wind shows up on a manual network scan so it should still support it.
[Nokia Lumia 920] tomcahill:
I just checked on my Rogers Lumia 920 and I don't see that option

I tried this and it did not work. Tethering is still a no go.
[Nokia Lumia 920] froibet:
hey guys. i got my phone unlocked through Rogers. $56 (unlock code + HST tax).

It is 100% that Wind works with the phone. I popped my sim in and it worked perfectly.

the unlock code is a really long code. maybe 16 digits.

when you guys get it unlocked, you need to manually change APN and cell service according to your network.

i will post with Wind as the carrier if you want.

fyi: i activated on a prepaid account when i bought it + unlock
[Nokia Lumia 920] JoshP84:
Does Wifi Sharing work?
[Nokia Lumia 920] froibet:
sadly no.
[Nokia Lumia 920] BfA:
I believe Rogers has blocked Internet Sharing in their ROM and unless you can hack it some way it will be unable to be turned on. For the Lumia 900 I believe the work around was to download another providers ROM and install that. However, that could be a bit sketchy to do. (Though I'm sure note for the majority of XDA!)

I'm wanting to order an unlocked and unbranded phone which should come straight from the Nokia factory and since no carriers have it then all features should be enabled by default. The benefit of this is that the updates should be quicker as well since if you have an unlocked phone you can only get the updates when the carrier you bought it from releases them. So that means if your 920 is from AT&T you would only get an update when it's released on that network and not on the current network you're using. (Although you could probably hack that too!)

In regards to the MMS working, yes this will finally work with the Nokia Lumia's that are unlocked in Canada. The issue with Windows Phones is that each phone manufacturer has to create their own app to change the APN etc. I have a Focus S and the app is ****, it gives me an error which says that the Telus APN URL is too long which means I can't send MMS and can only receive from Telus, not other networks. For the 900 Nokia didn't release this APN changing app for the Canadian marketplace most likely due to payments from Rogers to ensure people wouldn't buy the phone and then use it unlocked on another network. It sounds like that issue has now been finally fixed and Nokia has finally released it in Canada, see the link below. Unfortunately, I don't believe having an unbranded phone would help in this situation as the app availability is based on the region of your Microsoft account and unless your account was in another country you wouldn't have access to the Nokia app.

http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nok...re-is-Network-Pofile-App/td-p/1373783/page/31

PS If anyone has any leads on an unlocked, unbranded Cyan Lumia 920 then please let me know.
[Nokia Lumia 920] McCrunch:
I believe that Cyan is exclusive to AT&T only. I hope that isn't true, and even if it is I still hope that there is a way to get one unlocked. Other than waiting for the exclusivity to end.