yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Lmfao! :laugh:

Anyway, I'd really appreciate it if you could post some Linpack and Quadrant Advanced (to see where it is scoring less than the Optimus G) benchmarks. Also, exactly how much storage space is available for the user?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Yes it's unlocked and on the Three network. The O2 store assured me it was locked, but lets face it what do they know?

It's from the O2 store in Milton Keynes

I haven't got enough post to attach photos but i have shared the album on my google+ account (Search for Shaun james)
[Nexus 4 General] PoisonWolf:
About 12 based on Anandtech's review.
[Nexus 4 General] aDVnatgae:
How much would you rate it after buying the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
The way the glass is that wont happen on the N4. I had the same issue on the gnex
[Nexus 4 General] benrees21:
Just got one from o2. Those who got one from o2, was it locked to o2 network or not? Thanks. Also is anyone else annoyes with the imei sticker on the back? I want to take it off hut not to be left with an empty white box.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
They're not locked.

Also, isn't the sticker on the plastic protector? It looked like it in all the pictures I've seen.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Did you get it sim - free price? or an upgrade?
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
Unless that doesn't have AMOLED either ;)
[Nexus 4 General] borich:
according to OP o2 phones aren't simlock;)

I repost this question to you: "could you check if there is fm radio hidden, installing spirit fm and\or contacting mikereidis?"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1059296

thanks a lot
[Nexus 4 General] benrees21:
I actually paid £180 for it and got a contract for £13.50 a month. Crazy I know but I have been stuck with a basic Nokia phone for ages now since I sold my gnex and I couldn't wait any longer. I will just pay the contract off when I have the money. I just read that o2 are selling unlocked N4's and on there website under Specs▶Radios it says Unlocked. Here's hoping. I'm still gonna use my Nokia for work as the N4 would get too bashed up otherwise but I'm just waiting on a micro~sim adapter before I activate my Vodafone micro~sim. So am not using the N4 yet. It feels a lot better then the gnex. As i said, one annoyimg thing is the imei sticker on the back! If you take it off your left with an empty white box I believe.
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
I'd say whites are more important. At least in the comparison shown I'd say the blacks on LCD are okay, where as the white on AMOLED is utter crap.
[Nexus 4 General] Danny80y:
I agree, the white/gray are rather dissapointing on the gnex. Especially when there is so much grey in the playstore ect.
[Nexus 4 General] gallifreyangirl:
Not bad idea is it 24 month contact.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
I've read from multiple sources there is no FM radio.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
BiG Thanks for all information and opinion :) Very useful stuff :)
[Nexus 4 General] arzbhatia:
Oh yes! I hope its by Motorola! It may be AMOLED then :D

Posted from my Sweet Lil' Nexus :)
[Nexus 4 General] benrees21:
Yes unfortunatly. Hits hard I know but I couldn't wait any longer! Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] narta:
There is no such thing as whtie in amoled. It's piss stained white :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] SladeNoctis:
That's right, some of the most recent phone pushing out some new camera technology actually have a rattle to them. Even the Lumia 920 has one of the loudest rattle since it uses springs for stabilization for video.
[Nexus 4 General] crawlgsx:
Yes it does! The floating sensor rattles like crazy during phone vibration. I had to turn vibration off because it sounds horrible. (Referring to 920)
[Nexus 4 General] gogol:
I have a question on battery life. If possible, let us know how do you setup your N4:

- How many Google account do you have set?

- Do you sync GMail on all accounts?

- Do you sync Calendar and contacts?

- Do you sync Picasa?

- Do you sync Google+?

- Do you set automatic photo upload on Google+?

- Do you use Facebook app and sync it? What's the interval?

- Do you auto-check weather? What's the interval?

- Do you have any other sync?

- How do you set the brightness? Auto?

- Do you use Google Now?

- Do you enable GPS?

- Do you use other location setting?

Sorry for those many questions :)

Then, please measure ... from 100% charged:

- How long is the stand-by time?

- How long is the screen on time?

- With approximately other usage if noticeable (calling time, media playing, gaming, etc.).

Please if you can do this for the next charging cycle, so we can have better picture about the battery life.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Some of the questionnaires you guys want filled out almost make my request for shaun to tell us how much of it he can fit into his mouth seem sensible.
[Nexus 4 General] c900712:
Lol at all the questions.. people seem to think that they will be buying a million dollar mansion... Its a 300dollar phone..

As far as the screen goes I have had mine for almost 24hours and still didnt notice any yellow tint so far after browsing benchmarks.. maybe it doesn't affect all the units? or maybe it will show up in a few days I hope not..

Rattling.. you have to put the phone next to your ear to hear it if your at home/bedroom noise levels. Atleast with my unit.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Noticed the phone getting hot after benchs and games?
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Hehe...you don't know how quiet my bedroom is...hey wait, that's not cool...
[Nexus 4 General] c900712:
It gets hot on the back upper level where the nexus letters are.

Here is a table for you so you can compare with averages. :p

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/decibel-dba-levels-d_728.html
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Is that seriously how bad black is on the Nexus 4? A bit hard to believe, because I thought early LCD phones (including SLCD) were the only ones so bad. I absolutely love the blacks on my Galaxy S, and when I had to swap it with a friend's Galaxy SL (with SLCD display rather than Super AMOLED) for 2 weeks, I started to find it extremely uncomfortable to use that phone. Some might say it's stupid to hate a device just for the "bright blacks", but only people who have completely gotten used to the pitch blacks on SAMOLED screens would understand.

Looking at some review videos, the blacks on Nexus 4 seemed much better, even my friend's HTC One X blacks were very good, so I'm hoping there's something not right with that photo.
[Nexus 4 General] Brac20:
The HTC One X has this on some units. We think it is part of the autofocus mechanism for the camera.
[Nexus 4 General] gideonMorrison:
Put in some effort and read a couple of pages back what I said.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Sorry, I don't know how I missed that. I hope you're right. Anandtech says the blacks are among the best too. :)
[Nexus 4 General] tixed:
I know that feel, bro Q_Q

On the bright side, I hope that grey/white colours would be better than on GNex. And judging by the benches, black level is better than any LCD on the market atm. Really love B/W high contrast themes!

Looking forward to buy this beauty. Sadly, no sure way to do so here while saving such a great price :( Would be glad to cooperate with somebody who's living n the US and is planning to visit Ukraine. I know, chance is pretty much non-existant though :D
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
On a bright side, if you have a baby, you can use the phone as a rattle toy!!!

Not a big deal people, as long as it's not a design flaw.
[Nexus 4 General] JeanneD4RK:
Hi OP,

Asked you yesterday about recording a sample in 1080p.

Are you still going to do it ?

How many time do we have to wait ?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
I'm gonna have my baby soon, so it's going to love the Nexus 4! Oh wait, the Nexus 4 is my baby. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] c900712:
I have a 1080p vid in my thread if u want it that badly
[Nexus 4 General] Imppy:
Hey OP after about a day of usage, what do you think about the phone in general, performance and battery in general terms?
[Nexus 4 General] PoisonWolf:
LOL @ days. Seriously, are you that hopped up about the Nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] JalmiNyondong1933:
I'm going to buy this phone. I'm currently using HTC One V. This thread is really helpful.

@OP is the screeb better than GNex? If so, I'd rather buy a GNex as it is cheaper now
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
Whoa geez mate it hasn't even been 24 hours yet since he posted this thread! He only picked it up yesterday! Not exactly 'days' of usage yet eh?
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I just shook my ONE X and held it to my ear.

There is a rattle next to the lense so you're correct.

I've never noticed it to be fair...
[Nexus 4 General] c900712:
Thats what I have been saying.. atleast on my nexus 4 you cant hear any rattling if you dont have it next to your ear and its quiet
[Nexus 4 General] UberSlackr:
Does your N4 have the Rattle sound also?
[Nexus 4 General] jader13254:
Thanks for your Helpfull Posts.

Do you have Modern Combat 2? Can you test how the game runns and see if you can put the game in background and play MC3 at the same time?

Thanks ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Imppy:
haha...i guess time is just flying in my head after I purchased my nexus 4. Original post edited.
[Nexus 4 General] jader13254:
Btw,

Do you have a bumper? I would like to see how it looks & if it makes my phone to a drop-down-often phone, or if its useless... Personally i think it makes the phone Very big..
[Nexus 4 General] Allanitomwesh:
Just read through the thread :rolleyes:

It seems the biggest gripes with this phone are

1. The washed colors

2. The Rattle in the camera

HOWEVER, these to me sound like nitpicking. Retina is €600 and I don't go around shaking my phone next to my ear in dead silence.

Someone please find something seriously wrong with this phone before I go crazy and buy three...:D

Sent via the Internet
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Any chance for SpeedTest results???????????????????????? :)
[Nexus 4 General] munkustrap:
+1

There are basically 3 possibilities we don't have a FM radio:

a) No hardware(FM chips/module) at all;

b) Has hardware but disconnected to the mainboard, which is the Galaxy Nexus does;

For the above two, no software can solve that;

c) Has FM chiips/module(which the N4 does within its S4 pro) but missing a FM radio software, such as in the CM/aokp roms for GS2, that's what the software quoted for.

Please test it for us...b4 I got mine.:D
[Nexus 4 General] dsmitty166:
You do realize that unless they are standing right next to you, this won't mean Jack. I can get completely different speeds 10 miles apart. Or from morning to afternoon
[Nexus 4 General] JohnnyL53:
What about if you stand on one leg with an arm out? H ow does it seem then? Does hopping have an affect? Could you call me while standing outside next to a busy street so I can judge for myself?
[Nexus 4 General] MarkGbe:
people with latex allergies should probably live in a non-latex bubble.

A JOKE!
[Nexus 4 General] JohnnyL53:
It's a phone not an HDTV for f's sake.
[Nexus 4 General] jader13254:
??

Dude that are CAMERAS which can't show how it looks in Reality... The screen is way brighter and sharper than gnexus
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
OP, thanks a lot for your time and effort to answer all these questions. went through all your posts and i have to say i am relieved. nothing yet that would keep me from buying this Nexus. i just hope i could see numbers i can rely on for battery life. i don't trust anandtech's scores, they don't seem to be convincing.
[Nexus 4 General] TheFiveDots:
Came from an iPhone 4 to an S3 and the magic of AMOLED was immediately gone as soon as I left the store; couldn't see it in sun nearly as well as the iPhone (read: couldn't see it at all). That and the S3 does not dim to anything even close to dark enough at night; not sure if this is an AMOLED thing or just that phone.

Either way, looking forward to my non-AMOLED N4.
[Nexus 4 General] Cusa:
Yeah amoled is terrible. I don't understand why Samsung keeps using it on their phones.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Its funny how no one complains about "black levels" on their LCD TV's. Now Im sure some still have plasmas, but very few anymore. I for one have no issues watching mine.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
He lives near London (me too) and using UK Three (DC HSPA+) network.

I know that speeds will vary a lot but my point is : what kind of speeds we can expect on UK Three (DC-HSPA+) ???

Is it ~2Mbps or is it 10Mbps+??

For me it does MATTER a lot...
[Nexus 4 General] jimmysmart83:
How. Much it coast to buy?
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Yep, O2 are supposed to be rolling out their DC-HSDPA network any day now so I'd be interested to see the speeds too.

I suspect 10+mb :)

And when your only on 1-2mb, this should be a mega boost.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
That's EXACTLY what I meant :)))))) I've seen people with Samsung Note 2 LTE getting speeds 20Mbps+...
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
On what network?
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Huh? People do all the time. It has gotten better but black levels are still the biggest issue with LCDs.
[Nexus 4 General] ny15456:
earpiece glass

one of the reviews mentioned that the glass opening for the earpiece is sharp enough to slice onions - is this true?
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
...........UK Three ;) ........

Tomorrow I'm selling my SGS2 and got a bit confused... I'm not quite sure what to do now..

I'm on ONE Plan from Three (Unlimited Data incl. tethering) and DC-HSPA+ enabled phone is what I want...

Not much choice atm , N4 is the best deal, but.... OUT OF STOCK (in normal price)...

For £400 I can get SGS3 LTE on eBay and have loads of fun (except good ROM's...) hmmm.....

Fcuking Google..... :/
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
Thank you OP for your detailed descriptions and real world tests :D

I just read the whole thread, all "problems" mentioned by the "professional" reviewers seem not to be existent on your phone (anymore), so now I'll just wait how the AOSP story evolves, then its mine :D

Thank you again :)
[Nexus 4 General] Zaslav:
Thank you for your time and consideration OP.

Although all this thread accomplished was making me angrier than I was before at the fact I wasn't able to order one... AHHHH!!!

By the way how well does photosphere work? Is it gimmicky? Or easy to use?
[Nexus 4 General] arzbhatia:
Its pretty impressive!

Posted from my Sweet Lil' Nexus :)
[Nexus 4 General] mi7chy:
Anyone able to test HDMI out? Does it output at 720p or 1080p? If 1080p how's performance with gaming, video decoding, browser, etc.?
[Nexus 4 General] benrees21:
Has a port? :screwy:
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Ah, thanks, as my speeds are fairly crappy.

I did think it's down to the current phone, but time will tell, WHEN I can order mine. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
Why sell your GS2 now? You'll get an upgrade in April...

The GS3 will be out dated in a few months when all the GS4 leaks are coming out lol.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Could you please sniff the phone and tell us what it smells like..jk....some of the requests were a bit excessive..lol
[Nexus 4 General] tgyberg:
Pfft, everyone knows it smells like an angel! :D
[Nexus 4 General] VictorNYC:
It does but you would need to purchase a SlimPort USB to HDMI cable ( about 30 USA Dollars )

But hey I do have a question ( I know i know there always a catch right lol ) How much memory left did you have initially ? What I mean is how much memory does the OS takes ? I couldn't get a 16Gb since they were all gone and I'm wondering how much memory left I'm gonna have after I install all my apps ( I do have a lot like almost 2Gb worth )

Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity....
[Nexus 4 General] dillym34:
Smells like teen spirit.
[Nexus 4 General] D3m0x:
Look, when you rattle so strong, any cellphone does that,

Here's a Galaxy Nexus, chek out this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shjYKvUXDEc

Sorry for my bad english.
[Nexus 4 General] reddv1:
The imei sticker is part of the plastic cover that you are supposed to remove. I thought the same thing but looked closer figured out it's part of the cover.

Also, I don't have the rattling noise even when I shake it violently. Checked again and the rattle noise is coming from the volume rocker. Shaking the phone while your finger is on the volume rocker eliminates the noise.

Also, the glass on the back does get a little warm after using it for a while, compared to my Galaxy Nexus which I can't feel any heat.

Also, colors are really good except greens are washed out. Nexus 7 greens are way more washed out then the Nexus 4.

Also, I noticed dust can collect at the bottom of the screen as there is a small gap between the glass and chrome rim. The sides however the glass seems fused with the chrome rim.
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Meh...

* Thanks appreciated for providing this image.
[Nexus 4 General] itspb:
I have a Galaxy S and I think AMOLED is just beautiful. You just need to play with the color settings a little bit to get the best out of it.
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
Can someome play a game like dead trigger for a while on the n4 and tell whether it starts to lag later on/whether there is a drop in performance? As I really want to know whether this will throttle in real world use.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] arzbhatia:
Mine doesnt :-/ At all!

+10000000000

Posted from my Sweet Lil' Nexus :)
[Nexus 4 General] itspb:
I heard that there is a purple haze/flare ( just like in the i5) while taking photos of bright sources(like the sun/bulbs). Kindly test this. If it doesn;t show up, try moving yourself and the phone in different angles. Thanls!
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
Hey you, post one more thing!

And I sure will miss the true blacks of my GNex, but getting rid of pentile makes it worthwhile
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
I'm selling it only because is still good value (£200 for a year old) Later on I'll add a few ££ and get N4... I've got spare SGS2 to use till N4 is available again so no problem...

---------- Post added at 07:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:28 AM ----------

Few month's back, I was thinking to go for 4G EE just to get high speed internet. EE is SCUM so I did research and find out that DC HSPA+ is faster than EE and we can enjoy Unlimited Data on HighSpeed... Only LTE phones (and N4 ..) are able to connect to DC.

Just can't wait for 2 batch....
[Nexus 4 General] alangrig:
Well, Despite latest incorporated LCD screen technology, after reading relevant reviews and bla bla bla, comparing friend of mine Nexus 4 vs Galaxy nexus, I must admit Galaxy Nexus screen is way better. Mine one is from production batch 07/2012 and the screen is perfect. Of course white is white when screen brightness is above 10-15%, but who uses phone with brightness lower than 15%?!. I guess not many of Gnex users.

Black level is very important, especially watching movies and vivid colors really matters.

Of course it's up to everyone taste.

My 2 cents.
[Nexus 4 General] raazman:
How do you compare the s3 screen with the galaxy nexus?
[Nexus 4 General] alangrig:
Galaxy Nexus outperforms SGS3, especially in brightness and correct color reproduction. However at lowest brightness 0-5% SGS3 has better color uniformity.

I've visited recently local Samsung store and set my Gnexus and SGS3 up to full brightness level and opened browser at webpage Google.com

Galaxy Nexus outshined SGS3. In addition White on SGS3 was bluesh.
[Nexus 4 General] benrees21:
13GB available. On an 8GB that's gonna be 5GB of storage left.

For this talking about screen. I do prefer AMOLED. Once you tweak the colours to your liking on an AMOLED screen you can't beat it. This nexus 4 screen is sharp and does not require any colour tweaking but the colours don't pop out. I think it's where I'm used to the over saturated colours on AMOLED.
[Nexus 4 General] smileyanz:
Your rite Sean and I've said it before , for me to upgrade from my nexus gsm I want to leap over the bar .!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] :
Good post, and pretty much what I was expecting.

Given that the N4 is pretty hacking-unfriendly at the moment anyhow due to

- no AOSP

- Difficulities deodexing 4.2

- Difficulties de-recompiling 4.2

means we will be forced to stay on "stock" for a while -> and that combined with your feedback may JUST tipp me over the edge to not even open my N4.
[Nexus 4 General] borich:
could you check the presence of hidden fm radio? According to this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34121531&postcount=82

there are some chances;)

thanks
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
Shaun I leave this post with you, and will be grateful if you can answer this. I know you/someone else answered a similar question before and used nfsmw as an example. Just curious to know whether it throttles when playing a game for a longer time.
[Nexus 4 General] Allanitomwesh:
SAAY WHAAAT?

Does the Nexus 4 Seriously warrant a downgrade? If buying from a lesser phone,would you still pick the Galaxy? Is it that serious?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
I haven't played NFS for more than 10 / 15 minutes, but in that time i noticed no throttling at all. Hope that helps
[Nexus 4 General] Dragooon123:
After dropping did you notice any cracks. You willing to sell it? :P
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
Yes it does help. Also just for the record, does nfsmw play slow? By that I mean does the time feel slow when compared to normal time. On the hox we had this issue, and wonder whether other phones of 1.5ghz have the same issue.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Thankfully no cracks at all. It survived well.

No i wouldn't sell it, i would take it back to O2 for a refund. Or give it to the missus and get my gnex back off her.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
thats very good news, this is what i was most worried about
[Nexus 4 General] expertzero1:
NY old iPhone 5 rattled. I think it was a camera lens or something. my brothers iPhone rattles too.

soooo its normal i guess lol
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hey

I'm sorry - i'm not much into games - they are played whilst sitting on the can, so twice a day for 10 mins like clockwork

I't doesn't play slow to me, it seems fine.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
the rattle is normal. my ipod touch rattles and its def the camera focus
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
No problem. Thanks for the quick replies, really appreciated. I know not many people are heavy into mobile gaming.
[Nexus 4 General] Locksmith81:
I think its due to the new architecture of the CPUs that produces that kind of numbers. That is why the S3 quadrants are higher... but in real life use the N4 is hands down faster.... period.
[Nexus 4 General] :
If it was that simple people wouldn't be whining as much, check this page out for Droid DNA (1080p) and Optimus G is also there, both using S4 Pro

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_droid_dna-review-849p3.php
[Nexus 4 General] bullzhigh:
Shaun.. what are the accessories that came in the box.. i read sumwer that the nex 4 doesnt come with ear phones..
[Nexus 4 General] bakron1:
I got mine yesterday and there is no headphones in the box
[Nexus 4 General] lerijiso:
What do angels smell like?

Thanx for the feedback. Very informative indeed. I wonder how would it feel like if you have sweaty palms, you know if you go workout or a run. I bet it will slip off my hands and land on the tarmac. I think a protective case is almost mandatory now after reading your review.

Battery life is one thing i'm most concern with still. Comparing it with the Gnex doesnt help because the Gnex itself has poor battery life. Its certainly an upgrade if one own the Gnex.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
A lot of it could be attributed to the lte radio; none of that here. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
Will it blend?
[Nexus 4 General] alangrig:
Well, it's definitely will be way cheaper to by OEM 2000 Mha battery.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Literally the phone, a charger the accessory for the sim tray + some paperwork.

The box is VERY apple like.

No ear phones. :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
With sweaty palms the phone is going flying. The bumper case i ordered from the play store should be here today / tomorrow so i will see how that fairs.
[Nexus 4 General] abhi2889:
I don't know it is normal or not. But my s2 doesn't have any rattle...