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[Nexus 4 General] jamesey10:
I don't get how people sell the phone for $590, when T-Mobile has it for $499.
[Nexus 4 General] IAmAN00bie:
Blah blah free market blah blah scalpers can do as they please. Legal does not equal moral.
[Nexus 4 General] Simer03:
Not every T-Mobile store has it

Sent from my Nexus Prime
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Haha very true, people seem to think the more emails you send the faster you get a response when in fact it is the opposite.
[Nexus 4 General] Lil Jones:
My single nexus 4 has not been shipped out. While this guy has two to sell.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
This is my second experience, bought a Gnex back in July and that went very smooth. Obviously there was less demand for that phone in July than for the N4 now.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I am in the same boat you are. But complaining gets either of us no where.
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
Same here ordered at 834 though not that the time is at all relevant at this point
[Nexus 4 General] Sturos:
http://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked

lol ...

5 from the same seller.
[Nexus 4 General] lookitzjohnny:
Just shows how google effed up this nexus 4 launch real bad.
[Nexus 4 General] djkinetic:
Simple economics my friend, supply and demand, as for the 590 price tag, it comes out to probably 620 with shipping, with tax depending on where you are buying from tmo could cost you a bit more with tax included aka here in chicago sales tax is 10.25 so that phone here is 550 in stores, now figure in the fact that the gnex was around 600-700. If you're like me who purchased the gnex at launch for 700, 620 for a nexus 4 aint that bad...this time around tho I'm being a little more frugal as I have to buy a few more christmas presents this year then last lol.
[Nexus 4 General] Misfit77:
My happiest dream would involve that guy somehow getting scammed out of every one of those.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
For all of us emailing customer service.
[Nexus 4 General] BigAtrain:
I agree with this.
[Nexus 4 General] Ameri-CAIN:
In my orders my nexus 16gb shows date November 14th with estimated shipping on the 15th. Wallet says pending on the 13th, and my order went in Nov 13th 08:33:27 PST. I have received 0 communication since the confirmation email 2 minutes after I ordered.

We just got home from my daughter's soccer game and there was a brown box in front off my door with the letters U P S on it! Unfortunately it had an extra letter too which made it USPS! :p
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Did the same because of the sale, just I got a note II. Even harder decision. ..
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Emailed earlier today asking for an order update. I'm fully limbo'd. This is the ONLY email I got back today.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
By the way, I encourage everyone to take that survey, leave them your true feelings.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Don't think it's been mentioned before. Guy posting a short review recently mentioned tapping on the back would make it rattle a bit. Here is a theory. Is conductive coil loose or tight? Any handy guy with a torx screwdriver should be able to take it off and check for the rattle on the cover ;)

I don't have one, or I would have checked it.

Welcome to Anonymous Nooboholics. My name is tinky.

It's a repost from another thread. This one is moving faster, so might get a bit more attention.
[Nexus 4 General] slowpc:
They believe it is related to the camera and the orientation of the screen .
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Something to do with the auto focus camera I think

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] Lil Jones:
Ifixit.com
[Nexus 4 General] zueda:
I ordered a nexus 4 and a bumper separately. Yesterday I received shipping notice for the bumper but my phone is still in limbo. I just noticed that the shipping weight for the package that shipped is 1.6 lbs. Much more than what I would expect for just a bumper. Can any one who has received their tracking tell me how much their package weighs?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I tried tapping on the picture of the back cover but no rattle...

Welcome to Anonymous Nooboholics. My name is tinky.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Mine for just the phone was 1.1 lbs

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] echaru:
Ok I got shipping message this morning, so I guess it's true. Anyone in the limbo land will get yours delivered this coming week.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I'm jelly

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] grubbster:
Oh yeah! I took the survey this morning. :angel:
[Nexus 4 General] BiDuSoft:
I took the initiatives and sent them like 20-30 emails with some profanity and make sure that they at least read the emails. I don't expect any replies from them though. Ready to leave Google and buy a Lumia 920 because of this. I am really really pissed off at this point.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Samesies

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] jjcore:
Anybody received a phone without being charged?
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Because that helps a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
If I remember correctly, there was a rather decent amount that went out early this morning.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I think they are finally getting their stuff together and figuring things out. But I still am not sure why they changed my order date in the play store to today instead of the 13th, after they had already sent me the back order email.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I got the back order email and my date is still the 13th :banghead:

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
I got one at 3:30am CST. Tracking number is still not active.

It does say my my package is 2.5lbs. Seems pretty heavy for a phone and bumper.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Maybe they threw in a free nexus 10!

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
I think to back order email just to make the ppl calm down. But everything is actually normal over there.
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
Ha I wish. I don't think so though. My buddy got a 4 and a 10. His package was 5lbs.

Maybe 2 N4s or a 4 and a 7? :)
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Me too. I don't think it will be until the weekends over though.
[Nexus 4 General] jMollys:
+1 for the N4 16

Date is now the 17th yet received the BO email on the 15th.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
You never know that may be better.
[Nexus 4 General] BigAtrain:
I'm trying to be patient but this is killing me. :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Doubt it haha

Lol sure broski

Backordered baby!
[Nexus 4 General] BiDuSoft:
Yeah because bending backward after being treated like **** by Google is the right way to go /sacarsm.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
See I don't believe anyone is bending over backwards, but I am not going to inconvenience my day to send angry emails to a support staff that is just doing what they can, it isn't their fault Google has a faulty system. And as for being treated badly I believe they will try to make amends, the first thing they thought they could do was refund shipping, so they did that, I have heard from a few customer service reps that they are also looking yo do something else, however they don't know what that may be.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I wish I had a life. Then I could do something besides watch over this thread like a hawk 24/7

Sent from Limbo Level 3

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I have a theory as to the day changes.

Someone here posted that while talking to a rep he overheard a conversation saying that there was a glitch during order time for the Nexus 4 that caused all orders successfully submitted to go through, but to not be linked to an actual phone.

My theory here is that they are redoing the orders for the people who have their orders glitched so that they are linked to an actual device to be shipped. Essentially, their reinputting the order.

It's a stretch of course but it's the most logical explanation I can come up with.

Sent from Limbo Level 3
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
No joke. Jeebus.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
That's what I thought to. But then again I can't see why they can't just admit that there was a glitch in the system. It's not like we are going rio, we already have.
[Nexus 4 General] BiDuSoft:
Don't worry I copied and pasted all the emails so after sending those emails, I went back and continued with my life without any interruption. It took me only like 10 min to send out all those emails.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
If that's true then ppl who's order date is changing are probably gonna have their phone shipped next week since they would be making changes in the order ppl bought their phone
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Actually you may not be too far off there, still seems weird to me though, why would they have to re do the order? And that wouldn't explain why the shipping estimate still says the fifteenth, and why my wallet account still has my real order time. But then again maybe just changing the date was the easiest way they could differentiate the different orders. Or maybe that's when the shipment for our devices gets I'm so they could start processing those orders. Or maybe I'm just making all this up as I type, take your pick :)
[Nexus 4 General] Lil Jones:
Go easy on the google CSRs

Please don't get mad at the CSRs the only information that have is from Google. It seems Google is not supplying them information also. They are normal people coming to work everyday to pay their way through school and feed their children. I know it is convenient they are around to blame, but don't its their job lets not make their days harder then it needs to be.
[Nexus 4 General] Freshly_Snipes:
Go cry in the car.
[Nexus 4 General] Lil Jones:
I work for one of the carriers at a call center. It is not fun to have some one screaming at you at the top of their lungs calling you every name in the book for a refund of an app they got at the Apple app store. Then trying to explain to them that the carrier has little involvement with the appstore. Its not fun. I have it the worst I am the guy who takes the call when they want to speak to a supervisor.
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
over the phone is not that bad. try having someone do it in person... and not over a phone but over their car, it is much worse im an assistant manager at a car stereo shop so ya. the phone is cake face to face is a different story

angry customers is just part of a job where you deal with people
[Nexus 4 General] Freshly_Snipes:
I've worked for T-Mo, Expedia/Hotels.com. Credit Solutions, Chase..All in CS or store facing..I understand that and if people want to yell and b*tch then you let them. That's our job. But what you DONT do is lie because that makes people call right back and then potentially report you. However I do agree that people should be less rude.

Google's reps are in an outsourced Call Center in Ann Arbor, Michigan. They are from a temp agency and for many of them it's their first job doing CS. Google gives them information that we have because their function is NOT for situations like this. It's simply for " the look" of saying they have a dedicated CS to investors and board members. They can help with little issues and trouble shooting but they are NOT for this type of escalated issue.
[Nexus 4 General] Lil Jones:
I don't envy you at all.

Edit: But really everyone remember. You are yelling and screaming at someone with your personal information at their fingertips.
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
ya. its a job, it can suck but it pays the bills.

so im not saying that i have it harder than CSR's but it comes with the territory. you have to be willing to do the job you sign up for
[Nexus 4 General] Ameri-CAIN:
I think that the date change has to do with the play store and app updates. I usually update my apps daily. I noticed mine changed to the 14th after updating apps on my tablet. I haven't seen the date change since then. Can anyone who's date changed to the 17th confirm if they just updated any apps?
[Nexus 4 General] ryan92084:
I didn't update any apps and my date is now the 17th. Still stuck in my "completed" but back ordered land of waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
no app updates here. i only have like three apps installed and they are at the bottom of the list. trying to keep it basic til i get the n4 since i gave my lady my galaxy nexus a little to early im stuck using my old pyramid
[Nexus 4 General] dubt17:
Updated 0 apps. Haven't installed a single app since I ordered my phone
[Nexus 4 General] Net.silb:
Hi guys,

I want to buy a 16GB Nexus 4 off-contract from T-Mobile for 500$, I am currently not their customer.

Does anybody know what stores in the Manhattan (NYC) area are selling it?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Ameri-CAIN:
Well there goes that theory! So then does anyone else's date show anything else besides the 13th and 17th? Just curious why mine would say the 14th.
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
call local t mobile stores in your city. that's what i did when i was thinking of cancelling my order... however that ended fast already locked in with Google for 350+ and don't feel like spending the extra cash with Christmas around the corner. my line isn't eligible for an upgrade but a few others on my account are so im just gonna use those and gift the nexus 4 hellacheap
[Nexus 4 General] Misfit77:
Well that can't be the case since I am still in complete limbo and my status is still at Nov.13th/ Nov. 15 Est. ship and I ordered mine at 8:32 PST, one of the first.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
Did u ever get confirmation of ur purchase? What I said was just a theory too, nothing concrete
[Nexus 4 General] Misfit77:
Yeah, the only correspondence I got from Google was the order receipt/confirmation at 8:34 PST.
[Nexus 4 General] Jaocagomez:
So, when its the next batch of nexus coming out?
[Nexus 4 General] P00t:
in 3 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] rockethot:
Does anyone else have a Nexus 7 showing up on the top of their orders list on the Play Store? Has today's date, price for $199.99 and listed as completed. Checked my bank just in case and I wasn't charged.
[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
Your wife bought you a present... ;)
[Nexus 4 General] rockethot:
I'm 20, not married :P

I'm wondering if this is a glitch or something...
[Nexus 4 General] kayateia:
Just checking in from limbo level 2 for a quick update of my data points. :) It's almost surreal, like Groundhog Day or something. I ordered at 8:44PST, got a confirmation at 9:15PST. Nothing has changed since then. Play store still says the 13th, shipping on the 15th. Credit card still has a pre-auth from the 13th. No shipping notice, no backorder notice. It's like they forgot about me. Oh, and I've updated Play store apps since then too, as I've got quite a list above my Nexus 4 listing. (8 things now.)

Still just planning to wait and see what happens.

Now I'm more nervous about all the defects being talked about elsewhere. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] crawlgsx:
same, 8:35PST (11:35 EST to me). No updates (don't even have an Android phone at the moment). Still shows ordered Nov 13th, nov 15 Est Shipping.

Good times :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I didn't hear anything about a second batch. All hear is that those that are back ordered should get the devices with in the weeks..

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[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
I didn't even get a confirmation email. Level 1 limbo!
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
You never got an order confirmation email? How do you know you even ordered successfully?

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[Nexus 4 General] Ranguvar:
Google Wallet / bank charge, I imagine.
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
In my Wallet it says I ordered successfully and a receipt was sent to my gmail, but I never received it. Also, when I called Google they told me my order was legit and I should be seeing shipping notification sometime by the end of November 15th, and now its the 18th.

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Exactly.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
That's where our phones will come from the second batch or shipment whatever u wanna call it. So technically those who haven't even placed an order will most likely have to wait for a third batch
[Nexus 4 General] MusicMan374:
-____________- I sold my pyramid to pay for this phone a week go and I'm stuck using a blackberry 9780, don't complain :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Yeah but we are just assuming that and Google said nothing about a second batch. Who knows at this point? They may just be having more made now. 3 weeks could just be a total guess by a manager trying to calm us all down. I don't trust Google at all right now.

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[Nexus 4 General] Net.silb:
T-Mobile Stores Selling the Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
Lol. Ya its not that bad its just a big change coming from a galaxy nexus I am too used to the on screen buttons that it is irritating to use this. And my hd2 is on gingerbread... too much of a pain in the ass to flash ROMs to nand on that thing.

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club...

"It's not drinking alone if you are with people on an internet forum"
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
same here. no confirmation. but i did get a charge...but then there is the problem of having a "ghost order" where it went through, but no phone is attached to the order. i hope not
[Nexus 4 General] thebest:
Google's Troubles

Here's my theory on what's happened over the past few days,

The bumpers went up 1 day before the phone was set to be sold. Obviously the were not ready in time, but Google/LG did not want to miss out on the profit due to people buying with the first orders (which they were right, considering Google/LG sold out of a bumper which costs them less than $1 to make).

So, the shipment of bumpers was most likely not ready when orders went live.

They had previously stated they would ship orders out the same day, but,

Google/LG did not want to have to pay for shipping twice, so they decided to try to wait it out for the bumpers in the hopes they would be ready in their allotted time. It seems pretty obvious this did not happen, as they have started shipping out the phones separately from the bumpers.

In regards to the actual time the devices were made available for purchase, and the crashing of Google's servers,

I believe Google did not inform us of the time when the devices were to be made available as they did not want their servers flooded (as they were). Some how the word got out in customer service, and it was spread slowly throughout (which explains why none of them had a uniform answer, they weren't supposed to know). Word got back to Google, so they tried to minimize the impact of that knowledge by opening orders 30 minutes early, this obviously was not enough, but it probably helped.

So, I believe bumpers and the leak to the service reps is the cause of all our dismay. I believe Google will do what they can to make it right.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Good theory but still just assumptions mostly. Could have happened that way though. Most likely we will never know.

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[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
That is good news.

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[Nexus 4 General] Sturos:
Can you e-mail Google Play support directly at that address? Or only as a follow up? Their webpage "Contact Us" has never given me a response.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
U lucky bastard
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I think they are ignoring me because I am on back order. I have been trying to get a little more information but not getting any replies anymore. Funny how the first day they promised me 3 to 5 days, now my last reply was basically with in 3 weeks probably, could not promise 3 weeks though even. I was not reassured at all.

My current phone is barely usable. Support could barley understand me. Using an a601. I was so stupid to sell first but it was the only way I could get the money. What a fool I was to tell every one not to worry, this is Google. I was so sure they were on top of things. It is just to funny to think of my attitude the day before compared to know. I was the ultimate Google fan boy..haha

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[Nexus 4 General] BiDuSoft:
Yeah and now we all know better. Good thing that I bought my Nexus 7 at GameStop without going through Google. If I did, it would be another cluster****, probably not as bad as this one but will be very similar.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I bought my nexus7 without a hitch. I did not buy on launch day.I ordered and got it within 2 days through Google play. This is part of why i believed in them.

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[Nexus 4 General] Freshly_Snipes:
Not until that sumb*tch is in my hands. I'm not about this 10 inch tablet life. Lol need me a phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Docavelli:
Me too. I should have done the same thing with this. I'm sure January/February would've been a better time to buy.
[Nexus 4 General] QweJay:
I want to buy a one but i am from china and i do not know how to buy.

Sorry about my bad English!
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
This is the last time I buy during a launch.

Nice canned reply..still no info. I really figured by now they would at least have the numbers crunched to know how many they are getting and when,etc.

Hi Rich,

Thank you for contacting Google.*

I do apologize for the inconvenience and frustration. We are trying to get the devices shipped as quickly as possible.

Thank you for patience and understanding.

It was my pleasure assisting you today. If there is anything further we can assist you with, please feel free to reply directly to this email or visit our help center at*

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[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Hell that doesn't mean anything. I live in Utah, half the people I went to high school with were married at 20. Knew a kid got married when he was 17. Divorced at 19. Dude is a caricature of himself.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Hell, in some states kids get married at 12.

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[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
My e-mail exchange with Google-Play support after a phone call follow up e-mail.

In her response to mine, which took 2 ****ing days. She basically restates what we have heard already, so it's nothing new, but I figure at this point consistency among support techs cannot be a bad thing.

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:crying: What the **** is wrong with the world?!?!!
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I was joking but still not sure if it could be true. Haahaa

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[Nexus 4 General] crawlgsx:
Me also. OOC is your order still showing placed on 11/13 too? (not updated to 11/17 like some others)?
[Nexus 4 General] BiDuSoft:
Trust me if I can get this ****ing Nexus 4 from somewhere else, I would have done so. I was kinda pissed off because I will be out of the country for a while after Thanksgiving (my flight is scheduled to be on Thursday night next week) so my feet are on fire as we speak. My HTC One X is a loan phone from my wife and I will have to give it back to her when I leave the country. I have no replacement phone at the moment so everyday counts for me. Kinda pissed off that because I trusted Google to handle this better hence I didn't prepare myself well enough for this massive failure on Google's part.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Ooh, what is this? Maybe you back ordered folk don't have to wait 3 weeks :D I'm bettin if Negri is going to have more stock abailable then, so will Google! I still don't know what the hell this means for us Limbo'd saps, maybe it'll take Google 3 months to figure out where the **** my phone is.
[Nexus 4 General] nivlac978:
Android central posted the nexus one on sale for 80 bucks. It's got a micro SD card for those of you who can't live without one.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
You will have your phone in days. They already said that if have not received the bo mail ten out will be getting a tracking number. There for we an finally stop hearing the word "limbo"

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