yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stillchimp:
Hi,

4.2 of Jelly Bean update could be imminent for my Nexus 7, and I'm wondering about what and how to backup before the update. The question I think is a general android one though... which is why I'm posting it here.

This was going to be a question about factory reset... but reading other posts I think I now understand that factory reset just deletes data/cache, so I think any time you do that it's just gonna return the device to a clean ROM state without changing the ROM. (whatever flavour/version ROM is)

When a ROM update is applied (either official or manually flashed), I guess it wipes everything, is it like a disk format or something like that? I have installed CWM recovery and rooted my device, I think the update will unroot it, but will the CWM recovery still be loaded?

And then, what backup should I take before the update... I think a Titanium Backup is a must, I understand how that works. But a Nandroid backup too? Or is that more like taking a disk image, would that be useless to restore after the ROM has been updated? And if so, does that mean any old Nandroid backups should be discarded?

Once the new update to 4.2 is installed, is it advisable to take a Nandroid backup immediately, or better to download the stock 4.2 image and keeping it as a starting point? (does this amount to the same thing?) I guess this is where a factory reset would return it to stock (providing I haven't moved anything to the system apps)?

Or is it possible/better to use a Nandroid backup as a point in time image of everything that's been installed on the device after adding back all the apps etc? I guess that leads me to wonder if the Nandroid backup is needed at all if I'm going with the Titanium Backups...

Thanks a lot and sorry for the lengthy question, I've seen many posts touching on this :confused:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shimp208:
1. OTA updates should let you retain your apps.

2. Clockworkmod will still be installed following the update.

3. Nandroid backups are like a system image it makes a backup of everything on your phone (Minus sd card external) at the exact point in time when you make the backup. If you restore the backup it will restore your phone to the exact state it was in when you made the backup. You only need to keep a couple of your recent nandroid backups on your phone.

4. After the 4.2 update you can either make a backup or use a factory restore image it will make no difference. Factory reset would return it to stock.

5. You can use nandroid to make a backup after you install your apps in fact I would recommend this that way you have a convient restore point. You can also backup your apps with titanium backup.

Hope this answers some of your questions :).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stillchimp:
Excellent, thanks for the fast reply, you did answer my questions!

I was misunderstanding then about the 4.2 update, thinking it was equivalent to flashing a new ROM... you clarified it for me, seems it's less severe than that.

I think I'll go with your point 5 to use a Nandroid image for a convenient restore point after the OTA happens :)
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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
https://github.com/cyanogenmod/android_vendor_cm/commit/95b761417cdc4532c3d5d08a2736e7ec5ffbbb3c

Maybe we will get some CM love soon?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] na7q:
hopefully! the ROM works great as is. just no service. so i think a few modifications and we could easily have it working for CDMA users?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
Seriously? can you cite that source?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
Yup it works. I have a compiled build and most works except data.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] iwin2000:
ya but i need my snote and my spen hover support
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
Ehh I can live without it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
Can I hug you? Is it crazy to hope that sumsung used the same radios for the N2 as they did for the Sprint variant of the S3?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
I'm not sure. I can post the build I have now? Its not a DD but fun to play around with lol.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
I'd look at it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
I'll post when I get home.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] knives of ice:
there are apps that some prefer over spen that do essentially the same thing. hover support they have already in the note 10.1
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Fester9977:
All I need to know is when is does make to the CDMA Note2, will it have WiFi tether working?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
Built in, dont think so. 3rd party maybe.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
Wifi Tether works AOSP, all third party tether apps are broken with JB
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] guisar:
I can't speak for all but wifi tether did work for me on 3g only (not wimax) for 4.1.2 on the e4gt.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
What benefit would I see over a ROM like, for instance, the "Why Not ROM" which has things like pen support and multiview and S voice, All share, Samsung wifi transfer, etc, and ALSO removes all the bloatware. The only thing I don't use is Touchwiz (I use Nova instead) on the Samsung ROM. I say this also considering that at the point where we are on a quad core 1.6 ghz ROM... "speed" isn't really an issue.

What am I missing from the Samsung ROM that I would gain with an AOSP ROM, without losing the things I mentioned above and more?

What's the gain here?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
Independence from Samsung and their update schedule, wifi tether, bug fixes, and longer support. My og epic stopped at GB but CM runs JB on it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ZenInsight:
Yes. I have the Epic 4G also with 4.1 on it *great phone*, and once they stopped supporting at 2.3...I moved on past a Samsung ROM (they still don't have the camera right though [a bit choppy] ).

But in this case, the phone is so advanced and specific, the only thing I see missing here is wireless tether, which I guess will be solved eventually.

For now, the loss of all of these other things is not worth a jump to an AOSP ROM for me. To each their own though.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
great today, unsupported tomorrow.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Fester9977:
I also have a Epic that I really enjoyed once I had the CM9/10 rom on it, and I am keeping it around as a spare / wifi voip burner phone. I guess for me tethering is mission critical since I live in an area that does not have any high speed internet option (no cable/DSL, nothing), and I rely on my phone for access at my house. So the first ROM that is stable and has tethering will get my donation.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ourprisonplanet:
Sweet... I'm guessing it's gonna be REALLY soon... I just checked the site and they're already posting nightly builds... Check It Out :laugh:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
the build is 163.82 MB. that's ridiculously awesome! >600MB smaller than the current roms
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ourprisonplanet:
I agree :D I'm completely stoked... I love the s-pen and all... but... I'm really wanting to try this bad boy out... My interest is the fact that supposedly 4.2 builds have stylus support built in... That would be too friggin awesome if we could have Cyanogenmod WITH stylus support... It would be a no brainer for me... I could care less about the dual screen...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] mrnamster:
Can't wait 'til we get Paranoid Android!

Gotta love the built-in features of CM10 like wifi tethering, onscreen nav buttons and killing apps with the back button!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] skyjedi:
N7100 has it

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33615534&postcount=112
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] ourprisonplanet:
I think I just cried a little :D lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] iwin2000:
what about multi window support :D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
Ive been working on this but Im really not too experienced lol. If you guys want, you can just flash the int'l build to preview things to come. Everything works really well besides anything needing data lol.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] VeNuMuS:
Rick. You sure are slick:D

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Keeping TeAm VeNuM Straight

Sent From The Note II

Hit the Thanks if you like the girls I post
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
Slim JB for GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace is here.

IMPORTANT: FEATURE REQUESTS WITHOUT LINK TO SOURCE/COMMIT WILL BE IGNORED.

Verry Smooth

Easy to customize features (thanks to Jellaxy team)

ROM - 107MB [Google Apps are 25MB and included]

Multilanguage

Lockscreen Options ( Calendar, Weather etc )

Screenshot via Customizable Nav Bar

Bulid.prop Tweaks

Lightning Launcher

OTA Updater

All out of HD Video Play

Found Bug? Write Me A PM

V1: http://www.mediafire.com/?ma388ktj2617no5

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[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
How To

1: When u Upgrade From Stock:

1: wipe data

2: wipe cache

3: Flash Rom

2: When u Upgrade From CM or CM Based Roms:

1: Flash Rom

3: When u Upgrade from other Custom Roms Like AOSP or MIUI:

1: wipe data

2: wipe cache

3: Flash Rom​
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
Changelog:​

V1:

LWPs Removed

Gapps Included

Lighting Launcher Added

build.prop tweaks

app tweaks

governor tweaks

Bootanimation Removed

Some Other Tweaks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] PulseDroid:
1st, Post Screenies and I'll check it out :highfive:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Gilmar Mess:
EDIT

2 :(

\o
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] olveeraa:
Link to download?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
im uploading

mediafire is sooo slowv :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] olveeraa:
Thank You man nice job
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Gilmar Mess:
which launcher you use?

Nice reflection icons in Drawer :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
Lightning Launcher
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Gilmar Mess:
installation process?

Wipes?

Format?

:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
check out secound theard
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] G.Galante:
does the camera work fine??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
yes
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] G.Galante:
try soon :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] olveeraa:
the roms is fast and smoth? i download and install :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ekache:
Does anyone confirm that tethering work in this rom?

thank you.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Abel669:
What kernel should I use
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Gilmar Mess:
Strong Lag for me

=x
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] olveeraa:
Wallpapper

Man how to change wallppaper? In lighting launcher?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] dj_antish:
Changelog please?

What have been removed n what have been added? :smile:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] mietens:
this is another great rom from u...thanx and congrates for it..

plz let me know wat script should i use to make it totally lag free? Not using anything else than u given in rom.nkt even a2sd..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
lwp removed from rom fore more speed
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] terrakio:
Does it support RTL languages​​?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] xWOLKx:
tethering doesnt work for me... :(

no bluetooth, no hotspot wifi, no wifi tether for root user :/

why :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] mietens:
everything is working fine here super smooth except for some graphical glitches and occasional lag may be due to app2sd otherwisw deep sleep wifi gps bt everything is damm ok
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] xWOLKx:
I have tried wifi tether for root user, all seems ok and works, but no one see my hotspot.

With bluetooth sync is ok but no internet :|

I dont know why.

Is only for me this problems?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] bieltv3:
What is the different between this and my lite?

Enviado desde mi GT-S5830 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
its ripped from the s3 one
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] netherzone:
Can you give me just SystemUI.apk and framwork-res.apk from your rom? thanks before friend.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] pidio1:
for what
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] netherzone:
I just wanted to check out some bugs on my edited theme and UI that you created as a my reference. Because the UI is that you make it look better. :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Venomous Viper 119:
Can you include nova or trebuchet instead of lightning in the next update ? It's a bit confusing & not too good looking...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tatqn4i:
Hi, I am new user in here and the list with topics is so long...so I decided to write a new one and wait for a good advise.

I have Htc desire from 2 and a half years and now I want to change it. But there is the dilema...Htc One X, Htc One S or Samsung Galaxy S 3.

This is the big question. So pls help me by telling which is better (from your experience).
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simonetti2011:
Are you serious?

Are you on a S III forums asking for advice on what phone to buy?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] candyman993:
I think you'll find every one here will say Samsung s3 :):):)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsie41:
HTC one S all the way.

Much easier to fit in your pocket. ;)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jimb008:
IPhone 5

Nah I'm not really gay. S3 is a belting phone. Wouldn't swap it for anything else on the market right now
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poshdaz:
If hardware is most important then S3,if software, then nexus 4.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Poker gypsy:
Wait for the s4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...vember-13-stay-tuned-for-our-coverage_id36513

HTC DROID DNA for Verizon lands on November 13, stay tuned for our coverage

November 20 is quoted as a potential launch date
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] omgitswes:
Agreed, each year I become more and more frustrated with them. Planned on leaving and getting the Note 2 on another carrier but it's cheaper for me to stay with VZW
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
My contract ends March 2013 so I'm thinking of moving onto my friends T-Mobile line instead of adding a ghost line on my family's just to get the Note 2.

Effing ridiculous.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] SFBPro:
Dear Verizon,

Due to the poor PR on this phone, my poor fingers will have arthritis for scouring the internet for a simple little date. As an apology for your negligence, I will accept an apology in the form of a Fedex package on my office desk.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] wooties:
Hmm. Maybe I'll buy this, just to pass the time waiting for the Note2. Then, return it once it comes out.

We have 14 days to return a phone, right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] SFBPro:
lol I thought about doing the same thing. Yes they do have a 14 day return window, but you have to pay a restocking fee.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] davud2:
Sucks big time. Its even cheaper than the note 2. Am just waiting for other carriers to ramp up their Late coverage

Vzw does suck.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] wooties:
$35 restocking fee.. to have a sweet phone to play with for ~14 days then get my even more sweet phone... I'm seriously tempted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
It makes sense though if this phone is indeed released on the 20th that they would not want the Note II in-stores on the 23rd as well. It would obviously take away from their DNA sales... but seems so BS to me that this could possibly be a major factor in why we are getting the phone so late, maybe the only factor.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
Wait...so we could get this the 20th and play with it then return it for the Note 2? Oh I'm doing that...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
Re-stocking fee. Not worth it IMO, buy some accessories instead.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
I already got plenty for it with the 50% off Samsung code.

Battery and dock for $25, 2 flip case for $40 and 1 tpu for $15
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
Then save up for your new phone, IDK. Getting a phone just to play with it for a few days seems pointless, what happens if you drop it and break it? Scuff it beyond repair, etc... Just isn't worth it IMO.

Well guys, looks like the phone is up on VZW site for preorder 11/19 ship date.

and lol

Battery

2020mAh Standard Li–Ion; non–removable

Usage Time – up to 12.8hrs OR

Standby Time – up to 14.7 days
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
12 hours has to be a joke. Lol that battery is super small.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
Talked to a rep and obviously BS'd a bit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] chino0131:
The battery is pretty bad, but what about 16GB storage with no SD card? That right there makes this phone a no for me. All of my apps/games alone cant fit on my Nexus 7 16GB version, and thats with no photos or movies. The screen is apparently one of the primary selling points for this phone. What good is it without the ability to have several HD movies and photos available on the device, in addition to all of your apps/games? I'd rather wait impatiently for Verizon to release the Note II.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imnuts:
Release isn't until the 21st, pre-order starts today.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
Going to chat and see if I can get the DNA when it's released and play with it and return for Note 2. Restock isn't a problem. I just got a new job.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jocelyn:
Quoting someone from AC because their assessment is correct.

"I dont see how people on a 2gb shared data plan can use this phone without upping their data plan. Which is exactly why Verizon ordered the phone without an microSD slot."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] computingwarren:
Lol, she didn't seem to enthusiastic.

Khyiera: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?

Austin: I was looking at adding a new line and getting the Note 2. I see the DNA is out before then. My question is, can I add a line, get the DNA, play with it and see if i like it and if i don't, return it for the Note 2 when it releases?

Austin: I know it will be within the 14 day return policy.

Khyiera: Yes you can.

Austin: My main problem was the battery. I see the DNA has a 2000mah battery and Note 2 has a 3100 mah battery and that's a big thing for me.

Austin: But, okay. Just wanted to make sure I could do that. I understand there is a restock fee, how much is it?

Khyiera: $35

Austin: Okay, I appreciate your help today.

Khyiera: No problem!

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:04 PM ----------

Instead of the DNA, I may switch to a different phone that's cheaper. $200, then $35 and another $100 is expensive.

My GNEX has terrible signal now a days and batter. Gonna have to look and see what's good to use for 2 weeks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] wooties:
Can you guys check your order status real quick? I ordered just after midnight on the 24th and my shipping status reads: Expected Ship Date: Not available at this time.

I'm just curious is all. The Verizon thread guys were wondering as well as some state dates and other's state the above.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] chino0131:
I just leave the Verizon forums, saw your post there and now you're here.

Mine still says the 27th and I ordered the day after the per-orders went live.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] wooties:
yeah, i'm bouncing between the two. I'm a huge fan of XDA, have been for years (lurking). I'm just curious and wanted to see what other's status' was. I should have probably put it in my pre-order thread though.

I just want this phone!

Back to topic: http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...xy-Note-II-LG-Nexus-4-size-comparison_id36589
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ronaldheld:
I checked order status today and saw no tracking number.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] blipsqueak:
You don't have to ask in more than one thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] chino0131:
Not sure why you quoted me as I didn't ask anything...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] blipsqueak:
Huh, meant to quote wooties. Sorry.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bsweetness:
I guess it can get a little confusing when there are two threads on the exact same topic - the Droid DNA being released before the Note 2 - right next to each other.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] infinitemethod:
Don't get me wrong, I am pissed as much as anyone that other carriers already have the Note 2. But Verizon couldn't care less when they release the Note 2. The Note 2 will never do Galaxy S III numbers, and not to mention you can get it on any carrier in the US now, which means there is no competition to get people to come to Verizon from another carrier for this phone. You'll never see a commercial for the Note 2 on Verizon.

It really is a kick to the **** for current, loyal customers. But somebody has to pay Lucas Films for the Droid name. Verizon fail!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mannypelo:
What Samsung code are you talking about I want in. I just ordered my note 2 and im holding off on the accessories

Sent from my Vzw Gs3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] SFBPro:
Or is Verizon paying Disney now? ;) That's right people! We have to pay the Mouse to get our phones!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
it has expired.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] infinitemethod:
Haha! Touche!