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[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
Well, all I can say is that if you copy stuff from word into XenForo it copies a lot of the formatting with it. Equally, when I copied the guys thread title into word it said it was a typeface called Cambria Math In ZenForo itself in a post you can obviously select code view to see various things, tho` typeface isn't one of them I think but you can certainly paste in all kinds of text styles including graphic text example,📚

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Mike
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
Where are you when you select and copy the thread title? Browser or XDA app? Which page? (First page of thread? List of threads?)

Naked Browser on a tablet: I can't copy the title if it's being displayed as a link. When I select and copy the title from the first page of the thread, all I get is text.

I'll try later with a desktop computer, but I'm not hopeful.
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
That's a point.... You can paste a thread title into one of your own new threads, but only Moderators will see the "Edit thread" option which is what I can use to copy/paste their thread title. I'm using the Firefox browser, but I've not tested to see if the typeface coding is copyable from the thread title when you have the thread open or from the thread listing page.

You might have "Edit Thread" or Edit Post for your own threads.

Mike
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
On my own thread I have an "Edit thread" option which would let me change the thread title, but I don't have any formatting embedded.

I was most curious about why/when "Copy" would copy formatting information to the clipboard, and in what format the formatting information was expressed.

I don't have a copy of Word, so I will resign myself to remaining ignorant.
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
Yes, well in XenForo itself I don't think there is a way to see formatting on the title. I would have thought that a rich text editor or Open Office might show it though. Or maybe LibreOffice.

Mike
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
If the formatting can be included in the string pasted into the title field, then it should be visible in the title field. Or at least, you should be able to copy the string from the title field and paste it into a new file and see in a hex editor that there is more in the file than the text of the title.

There is no place where I can copy a thread title and get anything other than the plain text of the title.

When I compose a line in LibreOffice Write with two fonts, select, copy, paste into "Edit thread" here, all that ends up is the text -- no indication of different fonts. (If I paste in LibreOffice Write, the font choices can be preserved -- I have to Paste special, Rich Text Format -- but I don't see how this information can bleed into a web browser edit field.

If you have the time to modify the title of my thread I will take another look.
[About XDA developers] Timmmmaaahh!:
While we're on the subject, if I copy a linked piece of text, like Space People, then copy just that string, paste it in notepad (removing all links and formatting!), select it again and copy it from notepad, it will still be linked when pasted here: Space People 🤯

Spoiler content hidden.
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
I'm not sure what you're getting at. What is "a linked piece of text"? Because of my browser, I can't easily copy "Space People" -- it's being displayed as a link, my browser only offers the option to "Copy link", so I get

https://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/

If I go out of my way to mark the word before the link and then extend the marked region to the word after the link, then "Copy", I get

like Space People, then

which I am surprised to see looks like there's a link in the middle.* When I paste into Mixplorer's Code Editor I get what I expected

like Space People, then

I am unable to paste into my terminal emulator -- the "Paste" option is grayed out, like the clipboard is empty. Maybe like the clipboard is flagged as being some format other than simple text.

* After I posted, I could no longer see a link in the middle of the second code block -- it looks the same as the third block.

In summary, it's really odd and I don't know where to poke first.
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
The following is a test piece of text copied from M$Word and pasted in here:

This is a test

This is a test​

This is a test
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
Curiously when I copy from Word to here it retains size and font but when I copy it back into Word it "randomly" seems to change the font size and sometimes pastes in Calibri and other times in Times Roman.

What is clear though, is that text copied from Word or RTF into XDA does retain formatting but it doesn't show all that code when "Toggle BB code" is selected. I suspect that's because the XenForo system is set to show only the things that a User here can select/choose even if XenForo is capable of displaying other coding (ithe coding is there just not shown)

Further, coding counts as characters in a post. This may explain why some Devs have said they can't understand why our post character limit is exceeded despite them appearing to be well below the character ;imit even with the bbcode being counted. When stuff is copied in there is clearly more than the characters and basic bbcode being included.

The following shows as Times Roman even in Word although it clearly isn't:

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Mike
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
@MikeChannon

Another example for a thread title with special font:

https://xdaforums.com/t/zest-kernel.4221681/
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
Now that one I can copy the title as displayed and I still see the different glyphs when I paste. It's not using different fonts, it's using some UNICODE characters, in UTF-8, from several code blocks.

00000000: 5a 65 73 74 20 4b 65 72 6e 65 6c 20 ea 9c b0 e1 Zest Kernel ....
00000010: b4 8f ca 80 20 ca 99 ca 80 e1 b4 80 e1 b4 8d ca .... ...........
00000020: 99 ca 9f e1 b4 87 ......
[About XDA developers] DiamondJohn:
I found a very minor bug.

I Build a SQLite Binary, and release it here in XDA, I have a thread, that as new versions are released, I add the new compiled version to the OP and change the thread title. So the latest update was from v3.42.0 to v3.43.0.

https://xdaforums.com/t/new-sqlite3-binary-v3-43-0-for-all-devices.4273049/

I also put a new post at the end if that thread, informing the users that a new version is released, and it can be downloaded from the OP. Thats where the first weird thing happens. It shows the OLD title. ie v3.42.0 The last post was created first, so its half logical. But it did not change after I edited the first post, and I tested editing and saving the post, and it still showed the wrong thread title. O also tried a manor change to see if that triggered an update, but no. And I notice now that the URL has updated to the new title.

https://xdaforums.com/t/new-sqlite3-binary-v3-43-0-for-all-devices.4273049/post-88925263

I also release here on XDA another app, and those who use my app, may be interested in this release (it uses SQLite heavily and was the impetus for compiling new versions). But when I posted the link in the TeMeFI thread, it shows the correct version.

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-tool-temefi-comprehensive-system-administration.3806260/post-88929281
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
I've fixed it in your post. Please see the URL that you've used; I don't know for where you retrieved it:

It should have been https://xdaforums.com/t/new-sqlite3-binary-v3-43-0-for-all-devices.4273049/
[About XDA developers] DiamondJohn:
I got if from the URL bar in Chrome. The URL changed today, but that was the URL when I made the post. So it changed the OP URL, but kept the historical (and that post was AFTER I changed the OP title (it stayed with the OLD URL), it must of changed later/Over-Night) to the thread/OP in the same thread.

Sure it was a problem in that post, but unless we know why, it could happen again to others.
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
That's strange because even with the version before the URL should have read:

https://xdaforums.com/t/new-sqlite3-binary-v3-42-0-for-all-devices.4273049/

and not https://xdaforums.com/t/new-sqlite3-binary-v3-41-1-for-all-devices.4273049/

Here you see the changes I've made to your post:

Could it be that your browser had cached some old stuff?
[About XDA developers] DiamondJohn:
In hind sight (and I did think of it at the time, but moved on) it would of been interesting to change the URL manually (ie new one) it at the time.

As for cache, from memory, a local browser should first check if the called URL is valid, before it displays a cached page. So that would leave the server reporting that the old page is still valid. And I just tested that memory. I put in the old URL (v3.42.0), and it served up the new page, with the new title etc. There is obviously a redirect happening at XDA end. So by my thinking the redirect should of displayed the new link/page in the post. I didn't try the really old pages to see just how far back it goes.
[About XDA developers] katoda_ltd:
I noticed that "Mark read" buttons position differs between a single forum and a group of forums. It results in unintentional removal device from user's device inventory: "muscle memory" tricks user to click on the 1st button from the left. The button should be in the same position for both cases, either first or last.

Group of forums:

Single forum:
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
@MikeChannon

Sir, above for your attention. For whatever reasons I didn't note until a few minutes ago that the "old vBulletin" fora indeed have the "Mark read" button to the right-hand side, and the "new Xenforo" fora at the left-hand side.

Don't know if this can easily and especially without monetary investment be changed?
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
I'll have a look, but can't promise anything.. XenForo buries a lot of this stuff quite deep and that assuming it doesn't require custom coding.

@the_scotsman if you've already seen an Admin CP menu for this let me know.

Of course the other thing is that other users who have not mentioned this, they may get confused if we move it around.

Mike
[About XDA developers] the_scotsman:
I reckon that would be a manual code change, rather than a setting. Likely not something that would be seen as any kind of priority by the owners, at a guess.

To be honest, no one has ever mentioned this before as far as I know, so I'd say it's something very minor. I realise some people will trip up on the differing locations though of course. But one person in 10 million is a low ratio at the moment 😜
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
Can "Search" be changed so that, after performing a search, I can edit my search string, or change the "where to search" options, without having to type everything from scratch?
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
Guess this is again something that must be left to @MikeChannon and his connections to the website owners.
[About XDA developers] Spannaa:
Doesn't the back gesture/button take you back to the search box where you can edit the string or where to search?

It does for me.
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
It certainly does if you use the "Advanced" Search.

Mike
[About XDA developers] Spannaa:
It does using "normal" search too for me.
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
Not for me. In a browser.

If I type in the Search box at the top of a forum/thread page (which I have to do to provoke the pop-up that lets me choose "This thread" or "Advanced"), and click Advanced, it doesn't even copy what I already typed in the Search box.

Whether I hit Search from the thread page, or hit Advanced and then Search, when I hit the Android "Back" button from Search Results, I do not get my previous query string in the search box.
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
Yes, when I mentioned "Advanced" search I was referring to a PC browser and it may vary from browser to browser too.

Refinements may be made, but it's very unlikely to be soon. I guess before hitting the return you could copy the contents of the box but that would only be a clumsy work around at best.

Mike
[About XDA developers] IronTechmonkey:
Regarding search, one substantial problem, which seems to have nothing to do with browser navigation or the handling of fields within form, is that the search criteria is replaced with an asterisk which tells the search engine to find everything, after which the asterisk must be replaced with the proper search criteria and then the search can be performed. See my signature for link to a description of this.
[About XDA developers] Spannaa:
I guess it depends on the browser then.

For me, the back button takes me back to the filled-in search box using chrome on both pc and phone.
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
Good news and bad news.

Chrome on the tablet does return me to the filled-in text box if I use either the browser back arrow or the system back button, from either regular or advanced search.

In Chrome, I can't select "search this thread only" -- it acts like there are only two items in the dropdown. Also, I don't see a way to assert "this thread only" on the Advanced Search page.

I won't be shocked to learn that it is my choice of legibly large text that disrupts the elegant balance required for a dropdown to be visible in Chrome. I will be sticking with Naked Browser, which manages to display the dropdown.
[About XDA developers] sd_shadow:
Links at bottom of page return a 404 error.
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
@willverduzco @MikeChannon

Gentlemen, I don't know who handles this but I confirm above observation.
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
Thanks guys, I suspect the original threads have been deleted or moved due to being outdated.

I'll remove the links once I re-find where the menu / coding is hiding in XenForo... likely later today.

Mike
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
These links and 404s have been removed.

Mike
[About XDA developers] IronTechmonkey:
When multi-quoting on android devices (Moto G Power from multiple years) with OS display size or font size set to anything bigger than the default, in multiple mobile browsers, the per-post "remove" quote buttons are either:

1) partly visible but tapping does nothing,

or

2) not visible and there is no way to scroll to to it and there is no indication that it exists.

Putting device in landscape mode forces button to display properly.

This may seem minor and there is a workaround but as XDA focuses largely on mobile devices with smaller screens it seems reasonable to expect that the webpage would function properly on those devices. I dare to dream, when dreams of a viable [fully operational] search function make way for other dreams. :D
[About XDA developers] IronTechmonkey:
Quote copied/pasted from old forum URL - replied in new URL:

Quoted post above seems to have been first in this thread to not make the migration. On my Android devices with large OS font and display sizes here is how the banners looked, but I could work around it, though to your point it served as a deterrent.
[About XDA developers] IronTechmonkey:
Quote copied/pasted from old forum URL - replied in new URL:

Almost everything. :D

[EDIT] It seems that the redirect, which was not occurring 60 minutes ago is now occurring, and old hyperlinks are bouncing off the former address and being redirected to the new on as expected in both desktop (Windows 10/Firefox) and Android (A11/Naked Browser).

[EDIT2] at new URL I am no longer being taken to new/unread posts as before.

[EDIT3] hop to latest unread seems to be OK.
[About XDA developers] Dayuser:
Looks like after migration, order of these links is changed. Could this be changed back what it was? That "members" link would be better somewhere in the middle and not last.

@MikeChannon Any thoughts of this request ?
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
Well, looking at the setup order it has not changed so I'm not sure why it would have moved.

I can move it BUT why is it better in the middle?

So far as I can see the other options have some practical value, whereas the "Members" one is a fairly meaning list of Guests and a limited selection of logged in Members... which might explain why it is and I suppose was set to show last (even if it was showing in the middle before. Why is the middle better?

Mike
[About XDA developers] Nebrassy:
May I ask, why is this migration needed, changing both domain and I'm guessing host as well?
[About XDA developers] Dayuser:
I don't have any specific reason why it is better in middle but i just like it in the middle and now it feels weird that it's not in the middle.

Looking that setup now and if i remember right that "Search forums" and "Members" are swapped together.

So "search forums" should be last and "Members" in center where search forums is now.

----

Edit. Now i remember... That members should be next search forums and help answer question should be last
[About XDA developers] J.Michael:
I tried to use the new URL when I read the notice. It wasn't available. I thought the notice was warning that the migration would take days. Clearly it wasn't.

Sorry for the hissy fit. And thanks to @IronTechmonkey and to @Timmmmaaahh! for taking me seriously.

Would the new URL be the reason I had to log in?
[About XDA developers] mxz55:
I'm also curious, besides that i hope this migration won't affect the SEO status of XDA-forums too much (like the findability of content, scenario's, known solutions etc. on Google for external visitors).. wouldn't it take years to re-scrape a forum as big as this?
[About XDA developers] IronTechmonkey:
S-E-A-R-C-H ................ T-H-I=S

After migration - attempt to search thread =

"Oops! We broke the matrix. Someone call Neo!

Please specify a search query or the name of a member."

Gah!

Not even the workaround to prevent XDA from turning all search criteria to wildcards can be used now. Please tell me this is temporary and please pardon my aggravation with the continued failure and degradation of search functions at XDA. It's bad enough that many people don't search, and worse that those who would put in the effort are unable to search effectively, and still worse that new users quickly see that one of the most common suggestions, in fact a requirement - to search, is too impractical to bother doing.

We need a real and reliable thread search feature.

[EDIT] From the search this thread panel, the advanced search seems to be able to search everywhere except in the current thread. There is presently no way to search within the current thread.

[EDIT2] filing down some sharp edges, hoping the present complete lack of thread search is temporary.
[About XDA developers] khusika:
This is my first post since the domain migration, I will say that I prefer the new domain which is shorter than before.

I was thinking like @mxz55 ,but I think SEO will recover quickly as soon as possible and it won't take long for a forum like this.

I'm sure that the Forum Admins and Moderators are working hard with this migration, including us as a member.

Last but not least, I am waiting for an official statement regarding this migration, so I can share this information to my fellow friends on social media.

Have a great day everyone.
[About XDA developers] Retrial:
Hey guys,

I am one of the few guys who still using XDA App 🤪 Mainly for quick replies and notifications.

Since the migration to new URL I am not able to login in the app. It redirects and open up the browser to login but when I return to app I am not logged in, only in browser.

Does anyone else encounter this? Anyone from the xda team still messing with that app? 😝

I was really used to the app for notifications and quick replies while I am not in PC. (Which is a lot of hours)

I tried to post on the proper thread but I see @Oswald Boelcke locked it, in favor of unofficial client ReLabs.

Tbh, I tried that client few months ago (alpha stage) but it wasn't very "complete" or had some issues for my quick usage. Is this better now? I may give it and try again but I would like to know what will happen to the xda app. 😆
[About XDA developers] khusika:
You can use debug version generated by github action here

Workflow runs · theimpulson/ReLabs

Unofficial XDA Client. Contribute to theimpulson/ReLabs development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com
[About XDA developers] Retrial:
This is for ReLabs tho, 😛 as I said I tried it in the past and it wasn't "complete" for my quick usage I used to have on the xda app.

But I gave it a try now and is still somehow "naked". For example I can't click on notifications and to redirect to that post etc.

I am sure the dev will greatly improve that app with the time but in the meantime I would like to stick to xda app which wasn't the best but for my quick stuff it was kinda ok.
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
Good morning, @Retrial

I hope you don't mind that I very slightly correct you. It wasn't me who locked that thread but a different moderator and that already on April, 13th. I've only posted the information about the unofficial client of @theimpulson there.

But I've now reopened the thread for any queries regarding the "old" app and the new domain.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke

@theimpulson's app is just available for about 4 weeks. It must have been something else that you tried a few months ago?

Could it be that you've tried this one? Personally, I never did...

[CLOSED] [Development] [UNOFFICIAL] XDA Forums App

INTRO : Instead of that XDA app on Google play that the Devs does not update it regularly, takes a lot of time to open and has some bugs, so I decided to introduce for you a new unofficial replacement --- a new XDA Forums app ! In-app...

xdaforums.com
[About XDA developers] Retrial:
Oops sorry 😝 I just saw the latest post from you there about the unofficial client and I wrongly assumed you also locked the thread.

I guess I will copy paste my issue there too.

Thanks 👍

Nope it was that client. I should say weeks instead of months to describe it better 😛

It was more than a month ago around the release of the app.
[About XDA developers] theimpulson:
There's a reason why I did the unofficial client with the help of our staff members. Remember building and maintaining an app costs a fair amount. No one from the staff members (by staff members I mean the moderation team who are volunteers you see and interact with every day) has access to the source code of the official app or API of this website. The app was developed by the company that carried out the migration (check the reference link below, it is public on their website). Requesting maintenance of the app is a continuous expenditure that I doubt the management is interested in bearing (which should be evident by now).

Reference: XDA Developers Case Study
[About XDA developers] Oswald Boelcke:
Ok, I acn't obviously speak on behalf of @theimpulson but remember he's just started some work (as "add-on" besides his real life) we talked about in our internal mod talks that a functionable app would be great. As such, he now commenced but not at a pace you might expect.

For good reasons it's only unofficial and even no XDA logo used.
[About XDA developers] Retrial:
I understand and I kinda already accepted that the management is not interesting improving the current xda app but I don't ask for new features or improvements. It was functional as it was on the level it was but with the migration to new url, it broke the login. I guess it's not big deal for them to fix that so the app can be usable again as logged in user 😋

Oh I don't judge ReLab / @theimpulson, I will also try to contribute with translation when I get some time. As I said I am sure the app will greatly be improved over the time but for now I wanted to stick to the current xda app which I could do some quick stuff fine, that's why I asked about loggin issue which caused by the recent url change 😋