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[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
I don't like the smaller icons either. I like those icons to be huge. Since Apex is not working for me yet I'm using the stock launcher with what feels like M&M sized icons.

In regard to my last post, I said that I was extremely happy with 4.2, and I still am. However, I did do a fresh wipe when I installed 4.2 from the factory image. I have no idea if that made a difference or not.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
So it wasn't just me. I thought maybe the icons were smaller because I normally use nova but no they actually are smaller.

And yeah just about everyone hates the lockscreen. It just feels half baked overall.

Here's to hoping 4.2.1 fixing it
[Nexus 7 General] dgattenb:
I'm not rooted ,so had to wipe my baby the normal way ,but everything is now working .... Joy
[Nexus 7 General] jim1h:
I like the lock screen... I think most problems here are people with root and ROMs etc.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I already fixed the lockscreen... I turned it off. Seriously why does a tablet need one anyway?

I was more looking forward to the new lockscreen on the nexus 4 I'm planning on buying soon :)
[Nexus 7 General] scott_doyland:
I use a lock screen in case my tablet is stolen. At least it stops someone immediately getting access to various accounts such as email.

It gives me time to alter my passwords on those accounts to render them useless.
[Nexus 7 General] biggiestuff:
Why can't they embed the numbers onto the top keys on the keyboard like they do with the phone. So annoying to have to press the 123 button to get to the numbers. Is that something you can enable? I can't find it.
[Nexus 7 General] MarkLI88:
I am not to crazy about this update either. The one thing I was really looking forward to was Miracast and we don't get it with this update :( also now Firefox crashes all the time and the lock screen stinks. I do not like the bold font on the hour of the clock the lock screen widgets are not polished the whole lock screen seem like beta software to me. Performance for me seems OK maybe a little better than 4.1.2 but not by much. The new notification and quick launch pull downs are also OK but not a big use item for me. No Miracast and not being able to run Flash content with Firefox is a real bummer. Hopefully 4.2.1 is right around the corner. :)
[Nexus 7 General] jonny68:
Jaysus this all sounds very negative and i think ill just stay on Liquid Jellybean for now, loads of people on about the lockscreen saying it's horrible, i like the current lockscreen on 4.1.2 and wouldn't want a drastic change from that, another thing which makes for grim reading some people saying charging the Nexus appears to take much longer, it takes long enough to fully charge as it is so im ****ed if im updating if it means taking even longer to charhe.

I have the 4.2 Camera and Gallery on my Galaxy S3 and they look great but from what im reading on here the rest doesn't sound up to much, maybe when custom ROM's based on 4.2 start appearing and the devs can modify certain aspects might there be some proper changes.

I'll sit on the fence for now.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Yeah are our tabs capable of tv out now?
[Nexus 7 General] oilyrag:
This release is an after thought for the Nexus 7.

The tablet is already technically obsolete as it cannot support Miracast. This is a horrendous error that should have been rectified in the 32gb N7 with a wi-fi radio that supports 2.4 and 5ghz, imagine introducing fragmentation in your flagship line???!!!. The other features are half baked and shoddily designed or presented, you can almost sense the rushed panic this software was shipped in to meet the deadline.

I'm going to CyanogenMod until Google get their act together. Now very hesitant about buying another Android device.
[Nexus 7 General] quidnunc:
There are a few negatives but scrolling and general performance seems better. Scrolling used to hitch all the time and have a big input lag, seems a lot more smooth now.

I wish there were an option in Chrome to request the mobile site because I'm getting the desktop version of a lot of sites which is great in landscape, not so much in portrait.
[Nexus 7 General] styckx:
This update is really awful on multiple levels. It has that completely unfinished and sent to market feel that Windows ME had with the all incompatibility with applications and general `wtf is it even doing' that Vista had at launch.

Google better recifty this fast.. It's a completely amateur release.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
The fragmentation is horrible in the nexus line. The only 2 nexus devices that really match up are the 4 and one as they both use Qualcomm Snapdragons (granted the 4s is obviously light years ahead) , everything else uses completely different hardware.

Still it was my understanding something called "slimport" was coming to 4.2. Surely this thing is capable of tv out, it's nVidia, they specialize in that sort of thing!
[Nexus 7 General] RusherDude:
This is the worst Android update I can remember, and I've been on this boat since Donut.

Specially Awful for our Nexus 7's. What a disgrace are they doing for this tablet??

Who the hell takes those decisions on Google? AMATEUR is the word.
[Nexus 7 General] mythamp:
For 200$ - you get what you paid for, the aim of this product was to sell it to the masses who really might not need a tablet but the price is soo good they would jump. You are not their target customer, I think u just need to move to iPad Mini and airplay mirroring!

I honestly cant understand the few hate messages ^ - this might not be a steller update but its still a good step up from 4.1, what did iOS 4 to 5 offer? and 5 - 6, a half baked maps? Yes apple is not the topic of discussion but you must understand that G is competing with A and if A is not take 10 steps forwards, G doesnt need to either, milk the market as long as possible before the next product arrives to burn your wallet - REALITY!
[Nexus 7 General] marsyeti:
Liking the new version so far, I'm actually swiping. One thing bothers me however is that the dock icons are smaller, it just doesn't make any sense and I don't like the look of it.
[Nexus 7 General] styckx:
It's more so the fact the version number changed by less than a point (0.8) yet the entire foundation of Android was tilt shifted so half of it is sticking into some parallel universe where every day is opposite day and the other half stolen by Microsoft Studios. In other words.. Nothing makes any sense.

Seriously. WHY IS ONLY THE HOURS PORTION OF THE CLOCK IN BOLD FACE?? It's like some Bronx hipster with a man purse was allowed to design the lockscreen.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I kinda get sick of the "you get what you paid for" argument with the nexus 7. The nexus name sold more me, the price tag just made it sweeter
[Nexus 7 General] RusherDude:
Now noticed, the tablet now charges like 1/3 slower than before? what the hell Google..
[Nexus 7 General] SeaFractor:
Love it! Wild the number of users that agree and also disagree.

I suspect it's the type of applications and methods of use that cause it to be a like or dislike status for users. This means that even though it's working for me, Google has some work to do!

Perhaps 4.2.2 will be the Bean to glean!
[Nexus 7 General] johnchad14:
My nexus 7 drained from around 50% in standby to 0 today. Updated from stock unrooted. Added a second user last night...

I read one other mentioning crazy drain, any others?
[Nexus 7 General] Grohowiak:
I like it.

Smooth, no issues and swipe is awesome. Loving it.
[Nexus 7 General] marsyeti:
It's much faster I can feel that, mine even doesn't have a second account yet I don't know what is draining the battery, stock update unrooted.
[Nexus 7 General] Metallice:
Oh man. Now that I noticed the lock screen flash I can't stop being annoyed by that...

The problem is its not a gentle flash on and off reminding you its there... The lockscreen widget outline starts at full brightness and then fades away... It should be a gentle on and off... Annoyingly in your face.

Also... Its not symmetrical... If it flashed on both sides that would be one thing... It should start on the middle widget and you should be able to swipe left or right. That's how the android launcher works... Why shouldn't the lockscreen? Instead we get this reverse iPhone style scrolling.
[Nexus 7 General] eradicator006:
I miss tablet ui
[Nexus 7 General] Turbotab:
I expect we will see 4.2.1 shortly, just like 4.1.1 was pushed out after a couple of weeks post I/O. The great thing about Nexus is that within a few weeks there will be ROMs / widgets / themes to suit any taste, 4.2 seems to be solid base, without any fundamental platform issues, at least on the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] Lodovik:
Battery is draining much faster while the device is in sleep mode. Already, the Nexus 7 was under par in this situation, it's now becoming a problem.

Lots, lots of apps broken because of the new directory structure of the multi-user mode. I would have liked to have an option to turn this "feature" completely off and keep the compatibility of 4.1.x with the old directory paths.

I'm thinking seriously about going back to 4.1.x since none of the new features outweight all the problems I now have with my apps. I know, the devs will correct them eventually but Google should have put more emphasis on backward compatibility, like what we see on other platforms.

A very disapointing "upgrade" if you ask me...
[Nexus 7 General] styckx:
Bluetooth is a major problem across the board: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
[Nexus 7 General] Turbotab:
You could be right about the battery, but it is hard for me to judge as I was on the a custom kernel before the update, so I haven't got a good reference point. Regarding app compatibility, all platforms have their issues, Windows Phone shafted their userbase, iPhone 5 forced devs to update their apps to the new screen format. What apps are giving you trouble?, I've been lucky so far, no FCs but I'm only using 1 user account.
[Nexus 7 General] Turbotab:
OK, I wonder if it has anything to do with the new Bluedroid stack that has been implemented in 4.2. It is weird that these issues don't get picked up in reviews, maybe they are like me and don't use bluetooth headsets or speakers.
[Nexus 7 General] nyijedi:
Anyone else notice the auto brightness being more sensitive? It's been annoyingly adjusting itself somewhat frequently for me when sitting in the same spot with no change in brightness in the room. This wasn't happening before the update.
[Nexus 7 General] Moncader:
Daydream...

Daydream won't start for me.

I have tried it set to Either or Charging, it's set to the clock... It is 'On' as well.

However no matter what it won't start up automatically while charging... What other conditions are there I wonder?
[Nexus 7 General] Lodovik:
I disabled the interactive sleep screen maybe it will help regain some battery life while the device is not used. I use only one user account, too.

I have problems with Dice Player (now updated and corrected :good:), SixAxis Controller (this one is important!:crying:), UAE4droid, Vplayer is now slow or unresponsive:(, MX Player Pro says "Android version not supported":eek:. I haven't tested a lot of apps, but those I use frequently were among the ones affected. All are Google Store apps, by the way so I will often check for updates in the next few days...:)

I'm on stock kernel and rooted (mostly for the SixAxis app and also for doing Nand backups with a custom recovery). TWRP is broken (this was to be expected) because it can no longer find the backups.

About the iPhone5, at least old apps are still compatible; they're just not using the full height of the screen.
[Nexus 7 General] xc68000:
I'm going back to Paranoid Android this update is horrible
[Nexus 7 General] ljv:
I did the exact same thing. Para blows away 4.2
[Nexus 7 General] bos1:
I don't like 4.2 at all. Reverted to 4.1.2 and will probably stay there unless something comes to light that makes this update worthwhile. As far as I can tell all they did is remove some popular features like tablet layout for notification and navbar, add a messy multiuser implementation, make a handful of arbitrary and annoying UI changes, and then told us it's the greatest UX ever! Duarte is a complete iBSartist if he honestly expects anyone to believe this is an improved user experience.
[Nexus 7 General] AlleN7:
Any way to change which side the quick settings menu is on? I am right handed and also very used to pulling it from the right half. Gets me every time!
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
Yup. Same here.
[Nexus 7 General] helloterence:
Is there any way to stop the tablet from constantly notifying you about the OTA update if you choose not to apply it?
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
You really signed up just to make this post...
[Nexus 7 General] hayabusa1300cc:
The update rendered my nexus 7 useless. It's staggering how laggy the performance is. Stock plus root, no tweaks. Updated via TWRP recovery.

.:Sent from my Sprint Galaxy Note II:.
[Nexus 7 General] mk92595:
Works fine for me...
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
See my post under multiuser. Unroot and the tablet is great. At the moment, SuperSU is still not happy with multi.
[Nexus 7 General] oldblue910:
It's really pissing me off that the gesture keyboard won't pick up expletives no matter what I do. No, keyboard, I don't mean duck or sit...and I certainly didn't mean to call her a chung. WTF.
[Nexus 7 General] severinj:
What is up with the lockscreen widgets? Is there any way to turn this off?

I know it might not be a big deal to anyone else but it really irks me that every time I wake the screen it highlights the area to add a new lockscreen widget. I would rather it not have the option at all.
[Nexus 7 General] lazaro17:
I hope with a 4.2.1 update they iron out some kinks like this one. Also, I really feel like the Nexus 7 takes a performance hit with this new update. Definitely some weird hiccups now that I didn't have with 4.1.2. For example a few minutes ago I went to open a folder and got delayed input it took a good 6 seconds to open the folder and by that time I had tapped again so it registered double taps together.

I did a full wipe prior to the upgrade so I'm definitely not chalking it up to anything but the new update. I think we will see 4.2.1 fairly soon.
[HD2 General] woldranger:
I recently noticed that the widget I was using on my homescreen wasn't responding Digital Clock Widget and would no longer take me directly to the alarm when pressed. I checked and it was still set up for that in the settings so I tried to remove the widget and put a new one up but to no avail. I tried restoring it with Titanium but no joy as well as uninstalling and starting from scratch. But when I installed it again, this time I couldn't see the app's widgets in the app drawer.

I've tried another clock app and can't see the widget for that either. I had a go at long pressing a blank area on the homescreen but the only option it gave was to change the wallpaper. I had a play with that and changed the wallpaper I'd set up from one of my photo's but when I went to put that back on, that doesn't work either. I'm stumped!

ROM - NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.7 [Nand]

Kernel - tytung_HWA_r3.4

Launcher - stock Trebuchet

Thanks for any pointers guys - sorry if this has a rather obvious answer but I've tried everything I could and am very new and rather tentative when it comes to the whole modding thing!
[HTC Droid DNA] Venekor:
So annoying, another phone I'm interested in ruined straight away by no Micro SD and only a 16gb version. Problem is with tech it moves so fast that making you wait a few months for a 32gb version means I might as well then wait for the Galaxy S4 lol.

I don't get why we're going backwards in terms of storage.
[HTC Droid DNA] ZigZagJoe:
Non expandable storage is pretty much criminal, yeah. Jury is out on the battery size, but there's no reason they couldn't have included a SD slot - it's less than a dollar's worth of parts.

Even if the battery turns out to be adequate, the lack of storage makes the phone untenable. 32gb could have been lived with, 64gb would be ideal.
[HTC Droid DNA] ThatFool:
I understand where you are coming from but when you look from a "normal" consumers point of view they probably could care less because most dont know how it works.
[HTC Droid DNA] midnight93933:
I really don't see the problem, okay I lie, I do. But it is not that big of a deal, with cloud storage like dropbox (50 gb free with gs3) and drive, I would mostly use the 11 gb for pics and videos and apps, which fills up fast with the new advance camera's. So I automatically have my pics uploaded to google+, upload my videos via wifee to dropbox. Apps, I'm just going to have to deal with it, music is stored on google music.
[HTC Droid DNA] rajuabju:
I have to agree. I dont use my phone to store movies.

I use DropBox & Drive to store music and short video's. With the 100 or so apps I have on my 8GB thunderbolt and tons of pictures, I still have about 1.8GB of free space on it.

Still, it woudl be nice to have a 32GB option, or the SD slot.. very silly of HTC not to have more storage capacity in their new 'flagship phone' ... but 16GB is going to be fine for me for the next 2 years.
[HTC Droid DNA] wayne8821212:
Micro SD

Strange...... pdadb.net states that the DNA has a micro SD slot supporting up to 32gigs. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3950&c=htc_droid_dna_adr6435__droid_incredible_x_htc_dlx but that might have been a rumor or based on the Japanese sister phone "J-Butterfly". The Verizon website makes no mention of a micro SD slot though. Deal breaker for me!

I would have loved if it had 32 gigs on board as well. Then the I could have dealt with the lack of micro sd.
[HTC Droid DNA] Venekor:
I don't want to have to have to play the cloud storage file management game where I have to keep uploading and downloading and deciding what I want on my phone. I don't mind 16GB internal as long as I have a micro SD slot or I don't mind having 32GB and no Micro SD right now. The problem is files and apps are only going to get larger so by the time 16GB goes away in favour of 32GB that'll be too small then too.

I mean just give me an option to have the storage size I want. 16GB is only like 11-13GB usable..... well over half of that goes to my music and then some games are a couple GB now....... suddenly I'm out of space and cannot record video.
[HTC Droid DNA] wayne8821212:
Just had an online chat with Verizon Rep and she put me on hold while she checked and confirmed that the micro sd card slot is not mentioned on the specs on the verizon page (as I told her). I told her that Verizon had made a big mistake (with less total memory than my Rezound) on the DNA. She said "Verizon is not the manufacturer" (Duh!). I said true but it is made to Verizon's specifications by hTC.....oh well! I might be forced into the arms of the Galaxy Note II (which at least has up to 64 gigs of micro sd storage available to go with its paltry 16 gigs on board).
[HTC Droid DNA] NorthlandAZ:
Sorry to say it guys, but you are going to see more of this down the road. This has been brought up by all the manufacturers for the last year or two. For some reason the manufacturers want to push us to cloud service. I can see a 32gb coming out soon, but as for sd card slot.... When I first got the phone for testing, the first thing I said was "no SD card slot". After taking with HTC I moved all my music to Google cloud and found that it works very good with the Google Music player. So what I'm trying to say is you are going to see this more down the road.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I agree. I wonder how long it will be before we see a 32gb version (if we do).
[HTC Droid DNA] Venekor:
Until Networks increase data caps dramatically, cloud storage is useless.
[HTC Droid DNA] NorthlandAZ:
Yes your right, something needs to be done. The DNA is not the only new hot phone with no SD card slot, check out the Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 4. Like I said we will see more and more of this down the road.
[HTC Droid DNA] dweezle:
verizon spec'd the phone without a micro SD slot. The J Butterfly did have it (if I remember correctly). Drink up more data from them. That is what they are selling now, not phone calls.
[HTC Droid DNA] Venekor:
I've been interested in getting a new handset since the Nexus 4 purely because it was so cheap, however without a 32GB model at least it becomes useless for me even at the price, it would be like downgrading. Now however I'm interested in buying a new mobile just because I've gotten myself excited at the thought, even though my upgrade is in April and I'm perfectly happy with my GS2. Now this phone was announced I thought great it's basically a Nexus 4........ no 32GB or Micro SD...... FFS!

I'm just gonna end up waiting till April and hopefully the GS4 will be on the horizon and I'll get that, no way would Samsung design it without a Micro SD or at least a 32GB model.
[HTC Droid DNA] jmichaels1982:
waw

I just realized that you are absolutely correct ! freakin verizon... why else would they make such a small internal capacity, amazing screen to make u watch more videos and no sd storage

I dont know why that didnt click in my head

I wonder how long will HTC keep bending over for verizon ? until they lose all their customer base completely... ?
[HTC Droid DNA] chaki-:
It's like a crippled expensive horse. I will wait to see some DNA+ edition etc. :D Then maybe if the storage is right i will buy it :)
[HTC Droid DNA] NorthlandAZ:
I wouldn't say Verizon spec'd out the phone. HTC took many users considerations into this phone. Remember XDA and/or developers are only a small part of the cell phone world. I'm not saying I like the ideal of 16gb without a SD card, but......
[HTC Droid DNA] Tachi91:
~16GB doesn't effect my choice of any future phone. I got 25GB on Skydrive, 30 on DB and the measly 7GB on GDrive. So essentially those 16GB is only temp storage for photos/videos before I delete them off the phone once i see there already on DB and my music is streamed from Google Music. So the majority of it is for Apps which i don't download many anyways.

You people complain about MORE MORE MORE!! But dam what are keeping on that phone? Pictures and Videos? Things that can easily be lost if the phone gets lost/stolen or outright bricks on you. NO offense

But to each their own

I wan't Google to release a Desktop Client for Android like Zune or ... forgive me iTunes which i can easily plug my phone to charge and everything gets backed up via USB or Wifi.
[HTC Droid DNA] ilive12:
Not everyone has an unlimited plan, I'm stuck on a shared 4GB data plan w/ 4 people if I go with Verizon. Sprint is starting to get tempting though...
[HTC Droid DNA] jmichaels1982:
if i absolutely know

I keep EVERY THING on clouds, picasa , 100 gb google drive , google music

I just dont trust verizon to let me keep my grandfather unlimited forever, and i am terrified to wake up one day to realize that i have a 2gb cap to access 160 gb worth of material

between custom roms , and recoveries and the rom backups , 16 gb is barely enough . at that point , where i will have to buy an mp3 player and carry that separately.

and i can kiss pandora goodbye if verizon caps it

the only thing i am certain of is the phone specs and that verizon are flat out without any conscious or loyalty.
[HTC Droid DNA] Tachi91:
So your saying you'll be accessing those 160GB of material every month? I don't keep my backups on the phone... That to me negates the idea of a backup... Leave the backup on the very device your constantly messing with?

Music for me is like 3GB if i was to copy it to the phone... Pandora for me is when i feel like searching for new music which I would listen to maybe 2 or 3 times a month.

For me I use T-Mobile $40 for unlimited everything, perfect coverage for me and I live nowhere near LTE from any carrier. HSPA+ from T-Mobile is the fastest compared to where I live. AT&T's joke of HSPA+, Sprints WiMax, and Verizons EvDo do not compare. Even at that I barely go pass 1GB of use.

Aslong as reviews are good and hardware defects aren't serious then I'll buy it and unlock it