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[Nexus 4 General] spidr:
i m not here to argue and i cannot say for sure (althought i should cause i have studied security systems) but google is the store not the bank and what they are allowed is to process your billing data through a security protocol to the bank, they should not be able to know many things about your account, the bank is the one in charge to process this data and confirm the validity to the store. Thats why for example if you put wrong billing information ex name, the card is not accepted in google wallet.

google wallet sends and acknowledgment to the bank

bank confirms and sends back the ok!

card added in google wallet

you can go to google wallet and add your credit card before you make the purchase wallet.google.com

at the payment methods you can add your credit card (here u can choose the different country)

and at the settings menu you can add your Billing and shipping addresses
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
Thank you, will try tomorrow with a fresh mind.

I'll keep you posted, and be sure to keep me posted! :D
[Nexus 4 General] ntc3freak:
So at 3:56 in the morning, I received my shipping info with the DHL tracking number. Wooohoooooo! FINALLY!
[Nexus 4 General] Guto ViP:
bumper will sell only on Google Play?
[Nexus 4 General] Razer(x):
I don't think so, but probably it's gonna take a long time before you can find them on retail stores
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
I just go to my carrier and he cut my fullSIM to microSIM for free... So I have both parts and easy to fit full size and micro size...
[Nexus 4 General] narta:
Anyone adding a CC with the issuer bank being in a different country than the playstore country: It's not gonna fly. When it's time the bank to make the actual charge, it will be flagged that it's in a different country and deny the actual charge. I work in the banking sector. Google is performing a preliminary check based on algorithms on the Visa/MasterCard validity and nothing more.
[Nexus 4 General] ntc3freak:
Shipment is 80% complete! It SHOULD get here today. So excited!!!! :D :D
[Nexus 4 General] :
Finally, my shipping confirmation is here. Yaaaay. :D

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[Nexus 4 General] Alwyna:
Ok, this is a solution, too. I don't know if o2 does such things. What's your carrier? Maybe i will try it.. Thanks for the tip!
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
Who will deny the charge? The bank should allow it anyway, it's in their interest, isn't it?

It is Google that undoes the charge when it determines the CC was foreign, based on that flag raised by the bank?

thank you
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
Also O2 but SLOVAKIA... :)
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
When is out turn?

So, the madness in the US is over. From what I can understand, most, if not all, people placed their orders (feels like a preorder this time). And many LL3 people are receiving their phones in a few days.

When is our turn, who are still waiting? Does anyone know?
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
but shipping is 4-5 weeks... so its like preorder.... http://goo.gl/d54m3
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
I've just bought such a tool http://www.ebay.de/itm/Micro-SIM-Ka...dy_Zubehör&hash=item337c681f19#ht_2692wt_1141

Same result, you can use the cut off sides to put the sim card in a normal sizes slot.

Isn't it only the 8 GB version that's backordered so long? Last time I've checked tonight on th US play store it said 1-2 weeks for the 16 GB version
[Nexus 4 General] Lownita:
So USA easily can order again, anything new about German stock?

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[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
But it should not be in your interest that your card is able to be charged with ANY billing adress :D

it's actually quite easy to add a foreign cc to the google play store.

Just call your Bank and add a correspondence adress to your regular adress.
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
US store is still taking orders at this moment...interesting.

I do really care if this is a preorder or backorder, I just want to order one :D Is this too much to ask?
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Is there any bumpers in stock in germany guys?
[Nexus 4 General] Harsh:
No bumpers in stock in here in Germany. Wish they come in stock soon, i have not much time left :D
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
My CC isn't charged with any billing address, in fact the trick requires that I put my italian address in the card's billing address in the Wallet account... so I don't know why my bank would deny the charge. Problem is, how can Google notice the CC is foreign? narta said Google can't know in advance, and it is the bank who raises a "flag" indicating a foreign CC.

I'm lost. I think I'll just try and call my bank and see.. adding a foreign billing address to an italian credit card.. not a banking expert, but hemm... :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
it was actually a painless procedure for me

i just added a 2nd address in the webinterface of the card - it showed up next day (i'm austrian)

i even tested it with buying an app with google wallet
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
IN STOCK for Spain... its comiing..!!
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
false alarm
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Indeed. But once again, when the N10 came back last week, there was no alarm at all! What if history repeats itself...what if...
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
if it appears back in any EU store I'm pretty sure there would be 4-6 new threads within a few seconds ;)
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
i really hope we can buy again this week

next week i even have to take a 2nd month for the german vpn :D
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
Sorry for me being pedantic, but couldn't you buy the app even without adding the german address?

Are you testing it now with the n4 purchase?

thanks very much
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
ye sure i could buy it with my austrian adress before oO

but even after i added the german adress to my bank account + adding it to google wallet it was possible

i just wanted to test if google wallet is able to complete an order with the german adress
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
You know, I am very pessimistic, so I think that the app purchase doesn't qualify as a confirmation of this method working :D
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
It does not.
[Nexus 4 General] TobiS87:
Ok guys. Just got my N4. I really can tell you: It's worth the wait. Best phone I've ever used! Way better than the OneX in my opinion. No little flaws like creaking or flex. I'm just in love. So glad I didn't go withe OneX six months ago (had a few but returned them) and waited for this beauty. :D

So I hope all of you guys are able to get one if it gets available again and dont have to wait as long as I've waited.
[Nexus 4 General] ntc3freak:
I too just received mine this afternoon. Already rooted and running the latest version.

So far it has been absolutely amazing! Coming from a SGS3 which was no slouch, this thing just FLIES! It is incredible. Hope all of you will get yours soon, it has been an absolute pain getting this phone, waited weeks. But it was worth it :D
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
how do you know that?

I actually got this tip from a german blog. the guy there used the same bank and was able to purchase several nexus7 @ the UK launch.
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
hope so too, but I'm not very optimistic to get one within the next two weeks :(
[Nexus 4 General] narta:
The bank will deny the charge. Billing address form the merchant should be the same as the one in file on the issuer bank. There where instances that the bank denied the charge cause the street name or city was different. Country? No way, unless we are talking about banks that have no problem charging whatever on your card. In that case, I would be worried, VERY worried

Billing address can only be one, the one that you receive your monthly statement

No Google just has algorithms that check CC # and Country. Not address. If your bank has at lest basic checking of charges it will raise a red flag if it sees different Country

as for the apps purchases, these are not tangible goods, but software.

Anyways, I really hope my xda brothers get their N4 if such a loophole exists, but I would be very worry having a bank that can let someone order anything without the correct billing address. Just food for thought ;)
[Nexus 4 General] otwinston:
What I can say is that the CC trick at least did work on my 2 separate Nexus 7 orders from the UK play store back in July. But apparently others had their wallet account locked and had to send a copy of a CC statement showing their name and address to get it reopened. Their order was of course canceled.

Somewhere I read that Google claims it would now manually check every order before payment/shipping. Dunno, I'm still undecided if I'll try it again...
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
So, the US play store has had N4 for the entire day now, and we have nothing, not even a rumor?
[Nexus 4 General] bokagavrilov:
Yes coz they changed some things...u can buy it but it will take 4-5 weeks to ship so its like pre ordering they started with 2 weeks...so more orders there Are more it will take to ship
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
Maybe there can be alternatives, just like deoneR said? I asked my bank, let's see.

Hmm... maybe a Google employee is routinely checking Play Store orders and canceling those which were paid by a credit cardi with a foreign address, something they know because they force you to use Wallet, no? It's a perfect system. :crying:

Can't you just open a fake google account? Or does the credit card get flagged too?
[Nexus 4 General] spidr:
looooong conversation for nothing

I believe that google uses the field "Country" in the billing information to distinct the foreign cards from the German cards, imo this is the only way that they could do such an invalid restriction, that is the seperation of the money. Money is Money and in this particular situation, its the same money even, its EURO has the same color!

What they do is to check the shiping address but they cannot see your private billing data its private, i dont know if they could check the bank but i guess this is a very long action and thats why they are doing this, they are prohibiting the charge of a foreign card....

Anyways atm when it comes online i m gonna try to charge my Greek credit card and post feedback here ;)
[Nexus 4 General] remczar69:
Hi Guys,

I got mail shipping mail yesterday (28th) at 6AM, but at the moment I still see that the process of DHL package is at 20% and I don't know if iI should expect it today?

This is very important, because i lived in berlin and the package has been shipped to this city but now am like 300km away and will have to drive to Berlin to pick it up.

Do you think it can be delivered today or there are no chances?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
Here is nobody from DHL, sorry... contact DHL directly and speak with them...
[Nexus 4 General] TamCore:
I think you'll get it tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] remczar69:
Unfortunately I can't call them from another country to find out what's happening.
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
Your order will probably be canceled afterwards.

Google, I'm tired of waiting! 16 days from the launch and probably just 1 pallet of N4's ever reached your warehouses. You're the shame of internet shopping! :D
[Nexus 4 General] spidr:
when it will be available to us :confused: again no clues anywhere :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Orphelia:
My guess, not before next year

I preordered it in Media Markt and I was there yesterday. They told me they will get maybe 2 to 3 devices on release date which is 15.12. and then the procedure is first come ordered first served. The others have to wait till next batch that could be in within the week 17.-21.12. or later!!!

IMO goole can not deliver devices to us directly before the resellers made their deal. Maybe we can order in 2 weeks but will recieve way later (like US customers)

best regards
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
NOOOO don't destroy my last hope! :crying:

I'll wait until 14/15.12 for a mail from Media Markt or I'll stand at opening time at their door.... but hearing this I might better start looking in ebay for a not too overpriced one...

The only hope I still have is that they seam to have separate batches for the geos. 4-5 weeks shipping time in US at the moment does not have to mean the same for us.

BTW: Am I right that there is no trading section anymore in this forum?
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Don't know if this is the example for "no news is good news" :)

Well, back in this summer when N7 was launched, the release dates suggested how unimportant German market is to google. See the release dates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_7

I am guessing the same thing, early next year for us.

Yet, just a guess. But most likely we will not see anything exciting for us this week...it is already Thursday...
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
Mine was shipped 27th about 7PM and I received it yesterday morning.

The progress switched from 20% to 80% yesterday about 6-7AM so it takes a while till it updates. I think you may receive it today, but it's not 100% sure.

But it may also be just me, because I live in a small village and so there is not much to do for DHL and neraly all packages are delivered the same day. (Route is always: Start - Cologne - Commune - Me. So it only depends on when it arrives in Cologne if the package is here the same day)
[Nexus 4 General] wurzelsepp3:
I'm hoping the same.

My (optimistic) guess is that orders will be reopened the beginning of next week, with an expected shipping time of 1-2 weeks for those who manage to order in the first half hour.
[Nexus 4 General] mariosraptor:
Hey. Just one quick question. How much is nexus 7 32gb WiFi+3g costs in play store? Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] ptr_hamilton:
299,- Euro
[Nexus 4 General] sorcio46:
Still nothing even for this week? :(
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
At best in he beginning of next week since it seams new delivers arrive at Mondays.
[Nexus 4 General] meschio94:
Hi all, Handyshop is a good and reliable site ?
[Nexus 4 General] erikieperikie:
I'm from The Netherlands and I will be going to Germany for a Weihnachtsmarkt the 15th of December. I wonder in what shops the Nexus 4 will be available then. I know Media Markt starts selling them that day and Saturn the 19th. Are there other large electronics sellers in Germany I should consider paying a visit?

I hope that there will be enough Nexus 4s available by the time I get to a shop...

Did you guys know that for The Netherlands and Belgium it has been announced that the Nexus 4 won't be sold at all? At least not before 2013... :'(
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
strange

Our German Google spokesperson, Stefan Keuchel, has not yet post anything on google + since 8 this morning. That's unusual. Anybody knows what he is up to :) getting the 2nd batch or something :) day dreaming...

---------- Post added at 06:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:09 PM ----------

Many folks from this very thread have placed their preorder at mediamarkt. I doubt you'd have any luck...but again, anything is possible :)
[Nexus 4 General] pack21:
Australia IN STOCK.

Soon us.:D
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
:( untrue
[Nexus 4 General] TamCore:
MediaMarkt sucks. They won't confirm my cancellation of my preorder -.-
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Why did you cancel it? You got one from somewhere else?
[Nexus 4 General] TamCore:
I got my ordered device from Google Play :)

https://plus.google.com/114381154162397342856/posts/fR8P3S6mHyA
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Super! happy for you :)
[Nexus 4 General] qtekker:
Saturn site: delivery more than 4 weeks. Media Markt site: 15.12.12.

So why don't you pre order it on media markt? On your shopping day you can be sure it's waiting for you. If you can get it elsewhere faster or cheaper you can always cancel your pre order.
[Nexus 4 General] Orphelia:
Maybe cause of this it useless to do like you suggested:

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[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
Maybe he was in a meeting and couldn't browse any fun pages to post something. Sorry but IMO this guy is as useless as a hole in the head. It may well be that Google doesn't allow him to publish any details, but as a public relations manager he should be more on the community's / customers side. It feels like he doesn't try at all to give any information.

congrats man! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Qbsti:
Is it available on google play now? Sorry for the stupid question, but i live in Poland, so i don't have this site :/

(My friend will buy me one, but i cannot contact him right now...)
[Nexus 4 General] t0n:
Same boat bro. Czech republic here, got a person who can order it for me from German play Store.

I was also thinking, can I go to Vienna (its closer) and buy it there? Will it be ready at 15. 12. as well? Some suggested to preorder at Mediamarkt.de and have it pick up there, but I could not see the option to put it to the Austrian stores.
[Nexus 4 General] bokagavrilov:
Use a proxy to check
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
best chance to get it n europe at a retail store is media markt @ 15.12

in vienna it's the same as in the czech republic - just one online shop listed it in austria (http://geizhals.at/859912)
[Nexus 4 General] ptr_hamilton:
No, it's still sold out.

But I'm afraid as far as I've heared MediaMarkt and Saturn will only have a small amout of devices which - so I heared - won't even be enough for the one that preordered :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
http://www.n4checker.com/#
[Nexus 4 General] ptr_hamilton:
This page unfortunately is not reliable! Yesterday it said that Canada were in stock and before it said spain was.. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
I also preordered n4 from MediaMarkt.... cant wait for Google Play and wait for shipping next 1 or 6-7 weeks as US users now.... 35€ more for Mediamarkt is also less than here in Slovakia 500-550€....
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
Still...a couple of more alarms, even false ones, is better than to no alarms at all ;)
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
A question, especially for those who are already using the N4: how do you cut your mini sim to a micro sim? Are you using the cutter? Can one just walk into Mediamarkt or any mobile phone store and ask them to do it?

This is just for the preparation purpose :)
[Nexus 4 General] clsmn:
i went to saturn, asked a guy there. they gave me an "extractor" or something like that.. u can stamp it off an mini by yourself and for free! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
Go to your carrier's store and ask them to give you a microSim.

It should cost you about 10 euro or can just buy a cutter from ebay
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
O2 cut my SIM to microSIM for free with cutter..
[Nexus 4 General] Lownita:
Went to tmobile store they have a cutter under the desk... Sadly that was nearly a month ago and I am glad I had an adapter to fit it into my old sgs2 again :P
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Thanks, guys!
[Nexus 4 General] baza14:
will they sent it to you or you will go to germany?

Pošlou ti ho, nebo pro něj jedeš? Já ho mám taky v Drážďanech zarezervovanej, ale dneska jsem jim psal, jestli není nějakej způsob, jak mi ho poslat.:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Guto ViP:
ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
Brother will come home for Christmas and will be my Santa... :)
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
I so hope they will at least have enough for us who have pre ordered... :crying:

I've send them a mail asking how the odds are that I'll be able to pick up a device from them but didn't get an answer so far :(

"Hallo Media Markt Team,

Wird es bei der Veröffentlichung des Artikels (Google / LG Nexus 4) eine ausreichende Menge an Geräten für die Personen geben die bereits Vorbestellt haben?

Wie wird die Verteilung der verfügbaren Geräte ablaufen? Werden die Personen die zu einem früheren Zeitpunkt vorbestellt haben mit höherer Wahrscheinlichkeit ein Gerät erhalten oder die Personen die ein Gerät früher in ihrem jeweils ausgewählten Markt abholen?

Ich bitte um Rückantwort.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen."
[Nexus 4 General] TamCore:
The cutting of my old sim failed badly. So I was 36 hours without mobile connectivity before my new microSIM was activated.
[Nexus 4 General] ptr_hamilton:
Would be cool if you'd post their answer once you get it :D
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
sure thing :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] Guto ViP:
In english, please.
[Nexus 4 General] ptr_hamilton:
Wasn't that english enough :what:
[Nexus 4 General] mazurson:
He meant the answer I guess :p
[Nexus 4 General] Orphelia:
be prepared that they would not have enough for all of us at Media Markt.It is just Release Date and they will get a really small amount of 2or3 devices.And the first one who ordered will get it first!

It is a common procedure that they do for example with xperia t...

If we are lucky we are able to get within the next week of release but no promisse!

Sorry for destroying hopes but i also spoke to Media Markt last few days....

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[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
2 or 3 devices? No offence man but I call that BS. What shall they do with 2 or 3 devices? They wouldn't even be given to customers cause 2 or 3 devices will just be taken by some Media Markt employees.

For 2 or 3 devices Google woudn't even cut the foil on a new batch.

On the other hand, if Media Markt doesn't receive many devices, then probably the EU play store will.

As long as no one shows me proof that I'm wrong I assume they have different batches for NA, EU and Australia.

They have 3 markets at the moment. Google has already screwed up black Friday and cyber Monday in NA. The big Christmas shopping only is at the beginning in the EU, I really can not imagine they would plan on missing that chance here as well. US may be their biggest market but now with the preorder thing there, they have the fire under control and now can look at the rest of the world.
[Nexus 4 General] Crenshaw-PCGH:
Google said that there will be a new Nexus 4 batch on 6. December!
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
What's your source?
[Nexus 4 General] Soilbreaker:
http://de.gonline.at/index.php/menu...-ab-nikolaus-wieder-in-deutschland-verfuegbar
[Nexus 4 General] Crenshaw-PCGH:
http://de.gonline.at/index.php/menu...-ab-nikolaus-wieder-in-deutschland-verfuegbar

http://www.giga.de/smartphones/das-...nd-bilder/news/nexus-4-bald-wieder-verfugbar/
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Thanks!!! Wow, good email...I was looking for the place to sign my name...to make a stronger petition. Two necessary questions being asked: when and why no preorder! Hit the target!
[Nexus 4 General] Guto ViP:
Yes, thank you! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] legendarycom:
Now we just need opening time. Anyway thanks for info :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Guto ViP:
Around what time the sales will begin?
[Nexus 4 General] tlf55:
Is it possible to Pre-order from Mediamarkt Aachen ? Even if i'm not a German .. I'm belgian who live close (10 minute by car to Aachen) and i would like to pre-order it but i don't know if it's possible ..
[Nexus 4 General] z3r0_x:
This E-Mail looks totally fake!

The font looks strange and the wording doesn't sound like an answer from any official representative at all. Just look at the "

extrem

[...] beschäftigt" and the "ihn

ja

jetzt kontaktiert" - sounds more like someone tries to fool us.
[Nexus 4 General] Mash87:
try it out http://data.mediamarkt.de/angebot/vorbestellung/nexus-lg-nexus-4?searchkategorie=1721

I'm not sure if they check for a German IP adres, you might need to use a proxy server.

You can choose in which market you wan't to pick up the device. You won't be charged anything until you pick it up. (Best bring cash since they'll most likely don't accept foreign CC)
[Nexus 4 General] freeintruth:
Yeah, I start doubting it now as well. First I completely brought it...but then, from another thread, I was reminded that google does not provide any concrete information. Now we even have a date...

and does Stefan live in Hamburg? And if that was Stefan, why cannot he just post this on his google + if it is that certain?

They don't add together, do they:confused: