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[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
18k :eek:

Surely you wont sell in to a person who knows nothing about the phone.You just go to pakgamers or any other site & then you'll know how many people would come after your phone..& btw if i had to get that phone from abroad,i would not worry much about how to get rid of it any time soon.Why would i do that :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Hahaha..No man just visit Home shopping..All bashing HSN for such a high price.Our people dont know about the taxes & shipping cost.All they know is that google play price is 349$..HSN Mods are going crazy..Replying to each & every member & explaining the reason of high price.

Sometimes i wonder what would HSN do if someone's N4 comes out to be faulty.They'll replace it if in the first 7 days.But what would HSN do with that device :eek:

PS->Btw i dont agree to that 18k theory..It is not possible.Surely it is LG & everybody would say that why giving such a high price for LG product.But still this is no ordinary mobile.It is a beast & people do know about Proc,Ram & Camera.So people with some knowledge would get it from you any day
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Yeah, I saw the comments on HSN. They're driving me crazy!!! People really don't understand shipping and stuff. Haha. I even replied on the Lumia 920 page about it. :p

People here don't know crap! They're so dumb and, yet, delusional. They believe that they know everything but they're witless morons. :rolleyes: I told a friend about the Nexus 4. I told him that for $299, it is the best phone you'll ever be able to buy! Period! He checked it out. He loved the specs and then he came back to me saying, "But it's an L.G." I just stared at him, infuriated. :mad: I told him that it's a collaboration between Google and L.G. to make their flagship Nexus phone that comes out once a year! He stared at me, completely nonplussed, and said, "Yeah, but it's an L.G. and it won't have any resale" and that just made me angrier! I could not, in any way, explain to him what an awesome device the Nexus 4 was. What a feat of engineering in the software and hardware department it was! What harmony there was between the software and user experience! He's just so friggin' retarded! UGH!

Anyhow, it made me realize that there are a lot of people like this here. They'll look at it and say, "Look, an L.G. I don't want to buy that broken piece of crap". Yeah, people are imbeciles. Anyhow, that's my argument for the Rs. 18k price after a few months of use! Think about it!!! An L.G. phone from abroad with NO warranty and with a price tag of $299 (less than Rs. 30k). Good luck selling THAT!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Your right... and i agree with your point... but the fact is as Skater pointed out... if your to try to sell your phone, your not gonna try to sell it to the mobile walla at the corner of your galli who doesnt know jack **** about anything... your gonna try to sell it to someone who knows its value... having said that they will pay a decent amount...

giving you a prime example of myself... i bought a Motorola Atrix 4g about 1.5 years ago... when it was just a few moonths old... gott a really good deal on it so i picked it up... and must i say a amazing piece of hardware... i was coming from a Galaxy S... the only complaint i had was with its screen not being a super Amoled and the blacks not being black enough... otherwise... it pretty much had everything one could ask for...

Anyway.. at the time it was selling for 50k brand new on places like beloved HSN... about a week after i bought it i was on zamzama buying a friend a wildfire S... and just for the sake of it showed my phone to some of the shopkeepers... what did they look and say... konsa set hai... motorola...?? sir 10-15 mai leloonga uss say ziada nahi... i was like you @#$%*&%%$##@!... and it was pretty much the standard response from everyone...

anyhow... about 4 months later i put an add up to sell it because of only 2 reasons... i just couldnt digest the screen not being black enough... and secondly which was the main reason... there was no dev support for it left... everyone was gone... it was dead... so i had to jump ship...

anyway coming to the point... i had the add up online and did get lots of offers but stuff like ill give you 25 or sometthing really ridiculous... but at the end of the day i managed to sell it for only a loss of like 4k what i paid for it 6months back... going to show when a person knows the value of something... they will pay the money for it... so i think the LG Nexus has a much better shot at resale than the motorola Atrix did... because is a Nexus ofcourse...
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Lol I don't get hsn its okay to charge some more but itna? They need to realise that Android buyers aren't like iPhone buyers who'd go oh 99k? Okay can you deliver it today hsn rep yes sir that will be 5k more. Oh yeah sure done!!!

:-\ Yes I really saw that conversation!!

Any who 16gb is 49k now on hsn!!

Oh and does anybody have any idea how much could I get for my xperia s? 5 months Sony warranty left. Hdmi cable etc everything with it. No nfc tags though.?
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
A new new costs Rs. 34k. You should be able to get at least Rs. 25k from Hafeez Center. That's reasonable. Probably up to Rs. 28-29k from a genuinely interested buyer. It depends on the condition of your phone.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
i dunno dude... i dont think a mobile shop will offer that much... its a sony, not a samsung... unfortunately resale isnt as good... tho yea from a personal buyer i think you can get upto 27 TOPS... not more...
[Nexus 4 General] hameedullah:
HSN actually takes order, then emails you for advance payment with no guarantee of shipment date. HSN doesn't even reply if you ask them how soon will they deliver. So don't bother wasting your time on them.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Yes i agree but the point is that you cannot sell this mobile to someone who dont know its worth..Those who know it,they'll pay you a very good price.They wont even look at LG Logo.All they would care is to lay their hands on this beast.

Take my example..At first i would try to get it from abroad.If i fail to do so,i would get it from here..I know this device & i know its worth
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Oh really... i didnt know it was that bad... so they dont have it in stock either... lol... guess they cant use that line on others then that "do they have it in stock that they charging less"

I think shophive better then... because they delivering in 3 days about... and they not taking full payment up front... just a bit advance... but again for 50k... its a bit much...
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Er... I don't know when you ordered form HSN but when I bought the Nexus, I had the option for "payment on delivery".

Their warranty support could be much better though.

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[Nexus 4 General] dullaa:
My bro lives in USA. If i ask him to send me nexus 4, how much it will cost?
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
$299 for the 8GB model.

$349 for the 16GB model.

Charges for shipping if he lives far away from the outlets. Then, extra charges for shipping to Pakistan (if no one is visiting you).

Add $50 for shipping and multiply by 100. You'll get the answer in Rupees.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
If your brother orders from US and delivers in the US only as well... they will cost about (Inclusive of Tax and Shipping to US)

8gb= $330 = Rs. 33,000

16gb= $380 = Rs. 38,000

Upon this if you want to have it shipped to pakistan, THEN you will probably need to add about $50 as deadsol mentioned, along with whatever customs charges will be imposed on it when it reaches you... ofcourse best if you can have it sent with someone...

You Forgot to mention Taxes which is also an imp inclusion
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
My uncle, who lives in Maryland, told me the tax rate is 6%.

It varies from state to state. Another website I came across had shipping points to and from Baltimore - which is in Maryland.

Dunno if there are other states that have a higher or lower tax rate than MD... But just so you know...

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[Nexus 4 General] sLiKK:
Great to see so many people using n4 in pak :)

How much it costs u guys over there ....just curious.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
It ranges from about 39-43k...

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[Nexus 4 General] sLiKK:
damnnn..thats alot of dough
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Not really... In the US it costs 38k from Google... In Canada costs 42k from Google... UK is more than that too... So its pretty much level...

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[Nexus 4 General] sLiKK:
Not really?????? You must be one of those filthy rich ppl over there I guess. :P
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
LoL... If I was filthy rich I would have a S4 or HTC One... Haha...

But I was talking more in terms of comparisons... To other phones of the same league or price comparison to the international market... Its not really alot more in pak than it is in any other country...

But yes I agree... Technically that is alot of money... But my perspective is I rather save on buying a new crazy laptop and get a good phone instead since The phone can serve as a mini portable PC...

But that's just me...

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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
So the latest news...

White nexus 4 is official, seen at Google I/0... Releasing 10th June... With android 4.3...

http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/white-nexus-4-and-android-4-3-coming-june-10th/

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
So if this is true, hopefully we ll also get 4.3 in june. I also read tweet of phoneArena abt this news.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well the main source is androidAndme that I posted... Warna waisay to all these android sites have posted it like android police and droid dog... But all relying on the same source... Let's see if true...

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[Nexus 4 General] IINexusII:
you guys really need to do something about your network speeds, i went in april and was stuck on 2g on Telenor..
[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
Why would it suck for nexus 4 owners? Because double the money gets you better hardware? Lol. Not everyone can buy phones worth 70k. N4 is still the boss of the pre S4, HTC One generation. :)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I don't think I agree with the last statement... As much as one may like the n⁴, not once in any comparison review did I see anyone say the n4 was overall the best phone out there... The s3 always seemed to come out on top despite it's lack of ram...

But anywhoo... It's probably more the cloud where just in 6 months you no longer own the latest nexus with the Brest specs oy there...

And I do feel the hardware upgrade is worth the money... Especially having a better screen, camera and expandable storage...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
As far as reviews are concerned, u r right. S3 wud come out a better phone in reviews. But in reality i wud say both r equal phones. Both have some strong and week points. May be S3 is expensive, that s why ppl call it a better phone .. Lol (but no doubt it is one of the best smart phones)

Anyway I have owned both. I had GS 3 as well (and dont take me wrong gs3 owners) but in reality the more i used gs3, the more i disliked it. While the more i used N4, the more i like it.

Someone said in his review that if u want to see a true beast N4, root it. And he was right. Unless and until u root ur N4, u might not be happy. U can change display colors to ur liking. Custom roms add other useful features as well.

And yeah cam of S3 is better, but not by big margin. Especially in day light both (N4 and gs3 cams) had same results (i tested it).

Regarding expandable storage, yeah if u need it, gs3 may be a better option. But i had 16GB gs3 and never felt the need of an sd card. And i still have good storage available in my 16 gig N4.

So for my usage, N4 is really an awesome phone, loving it. Never regretted even once after buying it. Fast, smooth, no lags, excellent multitasking thanks to 2 gig RAM.

Now i m on AOKP (milestone 1), anothr great custom rom ;)
[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
Nexus was behind in terms of connectivity and storage. Connectivity is a problem for other countries not us we aren't even blessed with 3G. So I ignored that. Moreover the 0.6 extra megapixels on the front camera were a factor. Ever since I got this I haven't once used the front camera. Lastly, this varies from user to user but I find 16GB more than enough. And we all know n4 trumps the S3 in performance. So I looked at what matters and got this instead. Never getting off the nexus line for sure!!

And there are numerous reviews that rated n4 on top because of its price and performance + vanilla android of course!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well you both have valid arguments... But it boils down to individual usage I guess...

Plenty of people whom the N⁴ doesn't fulfil what they want out of the phone... I happen to be one of them... And I'm not saying go for the s3... Of course I chose the nexus over the s3 as well... But come the s4 in vanilla... Its pretty much exactly what I/many wanted...

16gb really isn't enough for me... In my previous s2 I had the 16gb plus a 32gb card... Now that card is in my laptop as extra storage... And my internal and external SD would always be about 85% full... As I use my phone for almost everything , including movies, reading, lectures, gaming etc... Therefore the 12gb access is a huge knock for me...

And the front camera is good enough... As long as its not as bad as the Moto Atrix FFC I'm happy... And its much better... Lol

But... The rear cam is worse than the s2's cam in my opinion... Which is a letdown...

And then super amoled... Nothing beats black blacks... I don't care for removable battery tho as long as you can hard reset...

So again according to my needs the s4 is just the much better option... Of course price is a huge factor... But the ONE thing which has plagued the Galaxy series since its launch, which is delayed updates and only 18months of support is gone... So I really don't see a better option... Anywhere... Because its more an investment... You didn't want to buy a Samsung for $700 and it be obsolete update wise after 1.5 years... Now you can spend that money and know it will get all the updates for a long time to come... Making your $650 worthwhile... As long as you don't get robbed... Sigh...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah agree with both.

N4 is one of the best smart phones. But if 16gig is not enough for u, u ll have to look for some other options. Its true that thr shd have been an option of Sd card. Dont know y google didnt go for it. Anyway for me as i said in my above post 16GB is more than enough.
[Nexus 4 General] sheraziqbal22:
Qi charger

If anybody want any accessories of nexus 4 i am in china right now do tell me i can purchase :p
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Very generous of you... But I must ask... Over there arnt most things copies...?? Is it not hard to distinguish original products from the fakes...??

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[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
At least it would be better than the things we get here in Pakistan... Here we get copies of copies of copies of copies :D
[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
Wireless charging orb? :p
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
The orb is pretty cool but I think most ppl not too happy that it is a bit too limited as to how it charges... As in the angle and has to be in a specific spot, and no case, and it slips off... I saw someone trying to sell it here for like 9k... It was new tho...

I think the TYLT charger is the best universal qi charger... Do check it out...

Theres a panasonic one which is also good but I think it has too many moving parts and is bound to break sooner than later...

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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
By the way... Do you guys think the white nexus will make it here on warranty...?? A friend wants one and just thought would ask you peeps...

I don't think there is much demand for the N4 here hence my doubts...

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[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
I think it will. Though my personal opinion is that it is ugly but it will definitely be here. Brightex recently released the black one. We all know how many iNoobs there are in this country who prefer white phones :p
[Nexus 4 General] knightameer:
Awsome

Got mine from shop-hive for Rs. 43000/-.. Been using it for 4 days.. Awesome phone..
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Haha... I agree... The white doesn't look good at all... But Its a girl that wants it so... Not really gonna argue with that :P

But on that note, when the whole white craze started a couple years ago... I was in a restaurant with some friends... And this guy walks in with...

A white iPhone 4

A white blackberry Bold

A white Jafferjees wallet

A white leather keychain on his keys...

But of course he himself was far from white... If you know what I mean :P

Well I know the phone will come without warranty... Was just wondering about brightex... Let's see I guess...

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[Nexus 4 General] sh@h!d:
hey guys i've been using note II for lyk 8 months n now i got N4. but theres this prob that my indigo sim thats been working fine in note II is not being recognized in N4. i tried 2 other N4s frm my friends but my sim didn't wrk there as well. they are using ufone n tis working fine and there sim also work fine with my handset.

should i try getting another sim or wat... plz suggest.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
First take your friends Ufone sim and put it in your nexus to see if the phone is picking up any sim at all... No point getting a new sim if the handset is faulty...

If the other sim works in your phone...then go change the sim... If the other sims don't work then get the phone checked...

Edit: sorry think I misread... Yea definitely get the sim changed... Shouldn't be a problems....

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[Nexus 4 General] sh@h!d:
thnx m8.

but mobilink helpline sux the other day they told me that they aint offering any micro sims n i just rang again and the guy goes that i could get 1 from their office.

fnx anyways :)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
All mobile networks now carry micro and nano sims... The helpline people are useless... You should always just go direct to a customer care center...

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[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I can share my experience here.

I took a Mobilink Sim but asked for a mini Sim (or whatever its called). They didn't have it so they cut my Sim instead.

This is the Redco Plaza service center in Blue Area, Islamabad.

When I inserted it in my phone, the Nexus wouldn't pick it up (it would say no Sim detected).

I couldn't replace it since my number wasn't fully ported (there's the number activation bit - and then there's the data porting bit... The data hadn't ported, and they couldn't replace my sim).

Turns out, the Sim wasn't finely cut (it had a little edge protruding out from one side) which I (along with another person), filed it so that it would become smoother.

Nothing helped.

Then I googled somewhere that some SIMs are actually thinner than others, and depending on the phone, it may not pick it up. I read you should put a layer of paper (we chose to use tape instead) and then insert it. And lo and behlod! It began to work.

Only for a few hours or so, since the phone bumped a little and then the same message appeared. Pushing the tray harder onside and then restarting helped - but only for a few hours only.

Then when I came home after work, it turns out that if the Sim is lose in the tray, them the phone won't pick it up either...so what I did was an amateur job, stick a layer of tape on the Sim tray with the Sim, and plug it in. Its working fine now.

I have to replace my Sim though. Haven't had the time to go to Mobilink's service center yet.

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[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
guys I have a shipment coming in from the US next week, can you recommend some good protection for my phone?

I was thinking of ordering the Original Nexus Bumper...and what about screen protectors? I want matte btw. Clear = too many fingerprints :/
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well I'm using the xtremeguard protectors... Its great on the back because gives excellent grip, on the front it gives a bit too much grip so not a smooth touch experience... People say can use polish to fix that but im too lazy to find some :P

But having said that, they do give great protection... And they surprisingly do heal by themselves... I even tested it... Unless a chunk pulled out of course... :P

But they not in matt and I not used any so can't advise there...

As for bumper... I definitely suggest the Poetic Bumper more than the official LG one... Reason being the official is too bulky... Gives the phone a awkward bloated feel, although official is a lot more classy... You can check all the forums as well... Most ppl dropped official for poetic... And its only $10 so its a win win...!

I had a horrendous drop with it as well... The bumper definitely saved me from a shattered screen...

A few friends using Diztronic as well... Quite happy with it they are... They wanted full back protection...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
[MENTION=3687104]DrunkFuX666[/MENTION] just came back from hafeez center. Finally bought handsfree. It is of TDK for 500Rs without mic. But i only need mic on pc when using skype. For that i can use Nokia handsfree :P

Bought a flip cover as well for 400rs.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I didn't know TDK made headphones... I've actually been trying to find original beats headsets that come with the HTC's... Let's see if I can find em...

Although I remember trying them on my S²... Wasn't very impressed by the sound quality...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah I didn't know about TDK either. Went to hafeez center, checked different handsfree there and selected this one. Sound is not the best, but it is quite decent.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well whatever floats your boat and gets the job done... Glad you finally got them tho... :)

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah true :D

And one more thing, it has "dr. dre" mentioned on it as well, but how do i enable/disable beats audio in Nexus 4? Any idea? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I've seen some hacks around here to get it working on any phone... Never tried it myself... But its just a software, nothing really crazy... I would suggest screw the beats label and just use Poweramp... Its got an EXCELLENT equalizer... Its definitely worth the $4 to buy... Everything you could possibly want from a music player...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah read abt poweramp in othr threads as well. Will give it a try.

And yeah sound without beats audio is also okay for me, was just asking for info.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Cools... I'm the mean time post some pics of your headphones... Would like to see what TDK has been up to...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Here it is mate..

Though this is an old model of TDK (a shopkeeper told me, they didnt have the latest model, bt it is doin a good job)

And see the flip cover as well ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Not bad At all... I see the flip cover has a magnet too... That's great... !

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah for 400Rs. it is quite okay. On my laptop, the sound quality of these handsfree is even better.

And yeah flip cover is also good, will use it only when i need to take my phone out. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well don't take the cover off and put it on over and over... It WILL damage the rubber sides...

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[Nexus 4 General] bilalahmad116:
GPS issue

Hey guyz,

I am having GOS issue on my nexus 4. Currently on carbon rom. It always keeps on searching. I have tried sygic, gps status etc but in all apps, it keeps on searching and never locks on a satellite, or even shows available satellites. Any of u having this issue? I was thinking of buying sygic pakistan maps but gps seems to be not working.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
PM Sk3ter... His name is something like that... Search in this thread for him... He uses carbon ROM I think so maybe he can help you...

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