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[About XDA developers] rirozizo:
sorry to pop in late here, but i got a suggestion which might be a little crazy, maybe useless too? but i keep thinking of it for the past 2 weeks.

in some words: Half OP, or OP assistant... or something like that.

the idea came when i saw a thread about a ROM on my HTC Desire Z forum which had OP supporting the thread, and a very helpful user also doing so.

that user didn't develop the ROM, but he flashed it and gave tons of help to the dev and the users.

another example is whatsapp PLUS, the OP made the app, and another user (named "ddamani" ) popped in and started helping the users, which make the dev focus more on development rather than on making noobs shut up.

so the idea is to have the OP assign a half-OP of his thread, so that the users can notice that half-OP and ask him the questions instead of the dev.

is it legit? will it do much help? i don't know, but if we try it... i think we can make the devs relax a bit :)

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[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Just to clarify something, OP indicates original poster, not Op as in irc.

As such I don't know what benefit you would gain from having a half-op user tbh. A thread is started by someone, and they get assigned the "OP" flag. It doesn't give any difference to them compared to others, other than the ability to change the thread title.

Had it converted some extra rights like +o on irc (I guess that's where you suggested the name from), then I think it would be a good idea to have. :)
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Yup. I'd like to see that. :)

Is it possible on the forums at all?
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
I don't see why not, but we already have users who help op's, i.e. they take control of 2nd or 3rd post and answer queries from users....a bit like a fault tracker or Q&A
[About XDA developers] undercover:
No no, I understand this is possible from user point of view (I'd like to have a couple of +o myself for my threads), but is it possible to make it happen in the forum code?
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
I'm sure it probably is, but I'd have to look into vbulletin code to confirm
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Would be greatly appreciated.
[About XDA developers] nbrska:
Thank you xda developers

i just want to say thank you xdadevelopers!!!

u made my 6 year old phone working like it is 2 years old!!! i really appreciate your work here and honor it!
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Not possible without considerable work, but it's something we will consider :)
[About XDA developers] rirozizo:
thank you,

i know that OP isn't the same as in IRC, but half-OP probably can edit the OP's first post for example.

but my main goal is to let other users know that half-OP is a helpful guy that gives perfect solutions everytime, unlike other "normal" users which sometimes don't give the right solution to a problem.

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[About XDA developers] roofrider:
What is the logic behind closing off topic threads in device fora instead of moving them to the OT forum?

And can it be moved upon a simple request instead of the closure? Or does even that depend on the mod team?

Or is it because fsms can only move threads within the forum they are assigned to? :confused:

Still don't understand why you guys can't standardize and allow one local OT thread/device. :rolleyes:
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Perhaps this is as simple as the OP putting something in the original post stating who that user is. For example: "If you have any questions, and I'm not around, JohnDoe might also be able to help you."

That would require no changes to the BB code. Being the original poster in a thread grants NO special rights in a thread unless the original poster is a recognized developer (and then the only special right is the ability to lock the entire thread.)

Gary
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
That topic is being discussed here.

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] percy_g2:
Open Source Initiative

Hi,

Sir(Admins and mods) !

First of all thanks for working so hard for XDA ( Creative members lab)

Sorry for PM but , I need to say something about the rules of XDA !

i wrote a PM to SIR archer and sir Pulser_g2 but he didn't even replied :confused:

I'am starting a project name PROJECT-X- for GB(gingerbread) for SGY(samsung galaxy y)!I will allow all the members to take part on this because like me some others may have better things to make development!This project contains features of all roms plus the modification made by me!As you might know(if you ever came across our forum ) there are some roms like Hyperion 7 & 8 ,jellblast ,many more! i have made a test build combining these roms features ,the results where better than before and i have tested all the combinations ,give test build to some of my friends .Results where better and reviews came out good! I have no problem in given proper credits for modifying there work !

But the main problem with this project is ,i will be needing permissions from carl (currently this member is banned ),avijitghosh82,b16h22,evanlocked,deathnotice01many more members!carl and avijit will not give me permissions on this project because they want to keep there builds as it is!(There is no unity in our forum)

carl's hyperion rom is based on b16h22'rom !

avijitghosh82's rom is based on creed's and cod dj's rom!

carl and avijit's attitude towards modifying or derived work (which is based on others)which is not good for development (as XDA aims towards development)!

http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81

in above link the 12th rule of XDA states that

As per my knowledge

Open source initiative say the above quote lines ! source :- http://opensource.org/osd

As the XDA was started by some ppl's to share there work and move ahead ,develop new things but the rule no.12 of XDA is stopping me do it.

I'am not getting any sense of this rule as the XDA aims towards development,as this era of andriod is making a mark !

The Android Operating System license are :- Apache License 2.0 ,Linux kernel patches under GNU GPL v2

source :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

The goal of Richard Stallman (GNU development initiated by Richard Stallman)

Source :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU

source for GNU license :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License

I have many point about this i have wrote a document on this project and Open source initiative.i have plans for CM 7 Project-X-(almost stable) , same for CM 9(unstable for our device) !

I have wrote a document on this issues and highlighted the main issues here.

Please Reply Soon , waiting

Regards,

Percy
[About XDA developers] Nordir:
User interface improvements

I suggest the following:

1. Clicking "Welcome, [name]" should send a user to User Control Panel (with that left command pane visible)

2. "Edit signature" command should always be available, but in case of a junior member say on clicking it "blabla u re too young to use it"

This will make the UI more intuitive, produce less noob posts and make people happier :)
[About XDA developers] boborone:
All of that is in the QUICK LINKS tab
[About XDA developers] Nordir:
boborone, that's right but initially nobody knows it. There could be anything in Quick Links.

And if i click my profile name i expect that i can find anything related to my profile there.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Is this your first and only forum?
[About XDA developers] rirozizo:
he is a designer actually (see his profile)... but a junior member.

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[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
It is a nice idea to actually wait until I have had a chance to reply...
[About XDA developers] Nordir:
Nope. That's why i'm suggesting.
[About XDA developers] Hobadee:
I have a bit of an extension of that idea: what if each thread (at least for ROMs) had at the top of the thread a short wiki entry which could contain basic info such as download links, changelog, links to important thread posts, etc.... The op could then designate who could edit it.

It seems like this wouldn't be *too* hard to accomplish... Just have each thread create a wiki page with the name as the thread ID and add it to the top of the page...

Just a thought.
[About XDA developers] rirozizo:
good call... no, great call!

i would consider this as a replacement to my idea actually.

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[About XDA developers] PacosTacos88:
Can I please just post to Galaxy S3 development forum? I'm tired of this 10 post rule crap. Can it at least be limited down to 5? Being a moderator on another forum, I can tell you spam bots 99.99% of the type will at most only post 2 topics or replies anyways. I really don't wanna fill your forums up with spam just to get my post count up, it's so degrading.

Please, lower the post count rule.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Simple answer. Don't fill forums with crap, but be helpful in General and Q&A. It would take you an hour max (including posting frequency limitation) to read through threads and help someone out. And you would most likely learn something alongside doing it. Out of interest, what exactly do you NEED to post in development forum?
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
I would find it more degrading to admit to everyone here, that I cannot find a way to make 10 useful posts on XDA after being a member since August last year.
[About XDA developers] vigoos:
I agree with this decision. It is pointless and is waste of storage. I recommend removal of all ot threads from device forums. They become chatting place. If you wanna chat so much just add in fb or use whatsapp

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[About XDA developers] benrees21:
Can this thread be shutdown or moderated a little bit more harshly:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1807291

Apart from being attacked in this thread, it is also being used as a spam thanks thread, with everybody giving each other multiple thanks for every post(it seems to be the same set of users over and over again). It is also an off topic thread in a device forum. I think it should be moved to off-topic or thanks disabled. Thanks for taking the time to read my post and I do enjoy my time here at XDA when I'm not being attacked! :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[About XDA developers] cwhitney24:
Please report the post where you were attacked. It will be sent immediately to the appropriate mods as well.

Edit. By using the report button lol. Sorry forgot to add that. :)

Sent from the Bacon Pope's Galaxy Note 2
[About XDA developers] benrees21:
Done. I think the thread as a whole should be looked at. You shouldn't be able to spam thanks in an off topic discussion.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
I've looked at tbread and cleaned it. I am now su scribed to it and watching it closely. If it derails again, it'll be closed permanently as I am struggling to find a purpose for it

Now can we get this thread on topic again.

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[About XDA developers] a.cid:
Can we have the Donate button disabled for members(-) ?

I just saw a couple of 10 posters happily sporting a "Donate to me".

Agreed it doesn't break any rule.

Also agreed that it was small enough to not hamper my browsing experience.

But I don't see any real reason for any <25 post member to have a donation email.
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
Erm...How 'bout an OP editing option for the OP on closed threads? I mean, if we had a list or compilation or Index thread, there is no need for anyone to reply there but naturally the OP, 2nd post would need updating regularly, so why not let OP edit atleast the 1st post only even when the thread is closed? would save time and time, as moderators wouldn't have to open and close threads every now and then.
[About XDA developers] rirozizo:
i absolutely concur, i've had a closed thread once, and i wished i would've edited it.

sometimes, the OP may post something "illegal", so in order to get his thread unlocked, he should edit the post, but he can't.

please make that happen
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Quite like both these ideas, will discuss with admin etc for further input

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[About XDA developers] orangekid:
Those are actually really awesome ideas that would really help with searches and overall organization.
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
Not a good idea. Lots of devs have very low post counts. I know that your suggestion is meant to stop non contributing people, but you would damage others who do contribute. Just look in the Android apps and games development area and you will find a bunch of devs who had just created profiles here solely to share what they made.

Sent from my... well.... it's complicated
[About XDA developers] PacosTacos88:
The way I see it, XDA is more of a modding forum than a please help me on choosing teh best launcher forum. It just didn't make much sense to me to postpone posting privileges in the only section that a lot of the members come here for.
[About XDA developers] flastnoles11:
If you can't make 10 contributing posts around a help thread or general then you don't belong on XDA... just my opinion... we all had to do it, the rule is there for a reason and its most likely there to stay...
[About XDA developers] boborone:
:highfive:
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
Nice... Any progress or information on it eventually being implemented or not? :)
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Both those ideas would take considerable amounts of time. There won't be any response on them for a while, as we'd need to work through our current stuff, then look at them and how they could be implemented. Also, if anything in the pipe would prevent them being applicable, then we can't look at them until later.

But they are logged and on the list :)
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Is there a list that you could share with things you guys are/will be looking into and what has been looked into and dismissed with reasons?

1. I'm curious :p

2. That can prevent repetitive suggestions.

3. It would broaden our (users) knowledge how things work and why they work that way

Thanks.

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[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Not really - the reason is the same pretty much every time - usually the reason is "it just won't work". Whether through the scale of the site, the scale of the change, or the significant impact in resources needed to maintain it (ie. someone wanting a mod to approve every post of every new user...) There's not many things that will work on a site as dynamic and wide-reaching as this, and we can tell what will work out fairly well, having spent years working things out :)

It is though public knowledge that the Developer DB will be coming out at some point in the future though, and this would override the need for the closing of the thread while adding information. It would likely also eliminate the need for wiki-editable posts.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
I see. Thanks

Forgive me for asking again, but what's happening with up/down voting being spread to more forums and how did that fare in Gnex forum?

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[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
It had scalability issues, and there is confusion between the use of vote up versus thanks.

Until we do something better, we will stay with the status quo.
[About XDA developers] Nate2:
An option to revoke a "Thanks", via tapatalk?

Sometimes I accidentally hit Thanks on some unpopular posting when I was trying to hit some other option, and Thanking that posting almost seems sarcastic or anti-social. Lol!

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I'm anti-modding, hardcore stock, "don't modify it unless you work for the device or OS manufacturer or Carrier", and I'm still hangin around XDA. Lol!

Watch me stick my head in the Lion's mouth now:

Say, do ERDs and RDs write code that leak memory and other resources, or is that a thing of the past? :^)

That's why I like XDA ;)
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Yes, of course. And also code that causes a device to crash. Hopefully, we also fix the issue once it's identified and isolated.

Personally, I find that the more respected developers here tend to produce more stable stuff than the OEM's, however. Perhaps because its done out of love instead of a paycheck.
[About XDA developers] mdmower:
I would like to see the 5th bar in the thanks meter get activated. Presumably it should turn on at 501 thanks (my best guess based on this thread). As an example, today prototype7 has 981 thanks and only 4 bars filled whereas bigdaddy619 has 1012 thanks with 6 bars filled. Seems a small jump in thanks for two steps in bars. (I have never met these members, and yeah, the example is not timeless).
[About XDA developers] orangekid:
I can attest to that. Every device I have owned, starting from my HTC Diamond, has run more stable and more smoothly with a custom ROM/Kernel configured correctly than stock.

Sometimes I wonder why OEMs don't just fire their entire coding dept and hire a good XDA dev who actually knows and cares about the product.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Samsung ended up implementing lots of the voodoo tweaks on the SGS.
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
Used the S3? Lots and lots of features that has been present in the modding area for a long long time

le random signature o.o
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Reported :rolleyes:

Told ya lot I'm on a mission :D
[About XDA developers] boborone:
idk about any newer versions, but one of the updates of the original SGS had some voodoo tweaks in it. Samsung sent Koushik a tab, too. Mostly it was color enhancements, but still, they took what a dev did and took it to mass devices.
[About XDA developers] netham45:
Feedback:

The Recognized Developer applications returned an error the first time I submitted, but the PM I received seems to indicate it was still received by XDA.
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
What about allowing an op to clean their own thread? I know that this has the potential to be abused, so maybe some kind of limitations or mod approval could be put into effect? At the very least, I think something like marking a post "invisible" until looked at by a moderator.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
This is just my opinion from a member and not a mod.

I wouldn't like that because as it is, the vetting process for the ERDs and Mods is where that you don't have to worry too much of them being a loose cannon and going willy nilly with the powers they are given. If you have a concern with noobs spamming the thread, fallenspartan is good laying some law down to clean, warn and infract on that matter. For just general cleaning, there is a report button that gives you the option for non-urgent post maintenance. Like I said, just my opinion from a member who doesn't want to see thread OPs given powers they can abuse.
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
I can understand that, and like I said, I realize it could be abused but, in the event when someone its obviously looking to start trouble I just think it would be nice to have. Just my opinion as a fellow user/whatever else I am lol
[About XDA developers] MikeChannon:
It has been considered and fairly recently too, but right now we don't have consensus that it would be an overall benefit. As you say there's plenty room for abuse and a whole new set of problems could be created. You mention that it could be something that is dependent on a Moderator approving it, but that being the case the report button reports things to the Mod team anyway.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Going back to my HelpThread idea. I experimented a little bit and didn't participate much (hardly at all). Well, I can tell you one thing, it's almost 100% self sufficient. You don't need to own the device to maintain it. All you need is op and post no2. If that. Click on replies, see who's contributing the most, add them to Hall of Fame. How simple is that?

I'm not trying to bring up my original idea, don't worry. I have a slightly different approach here. What if an RC starts such a thread? I would suggest it elsewhere but this is the only place i can think of (that i can access) that is visited by many RCs (and senior member) that are interested in making xda a better place (hope that didn't come out to pompous :D).

TL;DR

RCs talk in their forum, assign a person per device not already covered, he starts the thread and gets locals to participate. Simples. Worth a try me thinks. No extra overheads for mods but something consistently positive nevertheless.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1980135

Check the votes. 93% is quite impressive i think.
[About XDA developers] mark manning:
I posted a new thread in the RC chat with your idea tinky. I'm hoping some of them see how well your thread has worked out and start some of their own.

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[About XDA developers] rirozizo:
hall of fame! that's it! my "half-op" idea is just like this!

so that other users know who is the most helpful here, theyll check a hall of fame on OP :D

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[About XDA developers] MiguelHogue:
Well feedback

I must say VeNuM, Kennyglass, and Jayharper do a great job in the note2 thread.. That is all

-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

-Galaxy Note II Edition
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
OP states :

And then :

And

get to stay...

whereas my post in which i linked to this post : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33411060&postcount=28 which is a pretty good account, got deleted.

Biased much, XDA?
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Tbh, I do not use XDA app or Crapatalk, I use Forum Runner, though XDA is working on a totally new app made by our own developers.

Now to clean thread

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[About XDA developers] electricsheepdreamer:
In my experience Crapatalk is still better than XDAmn app and Forum Crawler combined.:)

2nd sentence: Glad to hear good news.:thumbup::thumbup:

(hope you don't mind)
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
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Looks like a busy day @ XDA :)
[About XDA developers] _Variable:
Will there be a free version?

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[About XDA developers] AtoZ0to9:
Tapatalk Paid with Unlimited Images works fine for me...
[About XDA developers] jugg1es:
Same here, Ok have the odd day where it plays up something rotten. Tried forum runners and didn't like it, paid for the xda app as well

Contrary to popular belief, "Damn It" is not God's last name.

(Construction wall, Philadelphia, 1969)
[About XDA developers] Zephyr!:
Until we get an update for XDA application till then Tapatalk is best, while uploading through XDA application the uploading just goes on and it never ends.

Hoping for "THE BEST" update :D

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Each to their own, I personally prefer Forum Runner, but then again, I prefer the moderation tools which obviously not everyone will be using.

Ok, let's change subject back on topic
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
-done away with-
[About XDA developers] _Variable:
Wait, will the big update be free?

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[About XDA developers] roofrider:
:confused:

Your post is here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37709244&postcount=30