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[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
I think this conversation should just be ended... I'll still stand by my statement though and await what others report once they actually have the device though, along with myself :)
[Nexus 4 General] newbieandroid:
Well both my GTX 470's had holes in the PCB :p (Air vent)
[Nexus 4 General] powerwagon:
Informed decisions based on one phone when no other review has mentioned this? Doesn't sound very informed. And it sounds like you made your choice, so why are you still around? Every new phone release has people like you around...trying to sway everyone else to fall on your side of thinking. Sorry, there are a lot of excited people waiting for their phones to arrive and there will be even more excited people playing with them next week...now move along and go look for some other people to drag down...it won't happen here. Good day
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Of course,

Then you will see an explosion of threads complaining about some certain defects and blaming why nobody mentioned it earlier.

I've seen it plenty of times.

Logic is hard.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Guys, this kind of stuff comes up every time a hyped product is released. When the Nexus 7 came out a few folks walked away from these very forums believing that the tablet was a piece of $#!+ with frayed wires hanging out and glue dripping from the screen. Getting bent out of shape and trying to defend a device that you also don't have in your hands is not only pointless, but it demonstrates a lack of understanding on the part of the person pointing out the defects.

It's possible that the Nexus 4 has a serious problem; it's possible that it's an isolated incident. If you're not concerned or don't see a trend developing post your thoughts intelligently then walk away. Some people are going to obsess; it's their nature and you cannot convince them otherwise. Do yourself a favor and let it be.
[Nexus 4 General] slainer68:
NO. French review from frandroid mentioned this yellow tint problem, see :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34084153&postcount=15
[Nexus 4 General] oneonezerosix:
For the people that already ordered the phone, what would be the safest way to avoid this?

Will avoiding use of the device for a few days eliminate the chance of this being a permanent issue? After reading the thread, I was still uncertain if waiting for the glue to "completely cure" would be beneficial.

Thanks for the advice/feedback
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
finally a sensible person, and not a fanboy on this site! :)
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Granted the fanboism is getting thick around here. But this is effectively a fan site, for the time being. Until more devs get hands on and can start testing custom recoveries and kernels and fun stuffs, there's not really any point in being on the site. Unless you are so grossly excited about this phone that you just want to feel close to it. Or you just want to be pissed off by all the phanboys. Or, I really don't want to do homework, my computer is right here, twitter's got nothing going on...
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Because this is the Nexus 4 sub-forum. You know, the newest iteration of the Google sponsored pure Android phone.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if people in the Lumia forum are excited about their device just before the get it.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Thread cleaned. Okay let's knock off the arguing.
[Nexus 4 General] RoadHazard:
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about one side of the screen being tinted pink, which is a problem many had. I had it very noticeably on my first GNex, and had to exchange it for a new one which didn't have it. It was definitely a hardware issue, and nothing that could be corrected through color settings.

That's not really an "easy fix". It's not like you can just go into the settings and change it.
[Nexus 4 General] betzerei:
The Nexus doesn`t have the silver ring around lilke in the first reviews??
[Nexus 4 General] szymon247:
NOOOOOOOO.

I had this exact thing on 2 Xperia Arcs I own. Xperia S had that at times too. This is permanent LCD damage caused by the CPU heat :( If it happens on one unit we know it's a design flaw.

What manufacturers do when they plan the phone's design - they simulate the way the heat will dissipate, taking into account component's resistance to high temperature. The battery and display are always top priorities because of their relative sensitivity to elevated temperatures.

Obviously, it should not happen to properly designed phones. In Xperia Arc it happened because Sony engineers worked with extremely low space and were forced to make suboptimimal design choices (either that or an increase of thickness would result and the project scope was to create the thinnest smartphone, so the project would fail) thus also the weird camera placement, audio jack on the side and no front facing camera.

Manufacturers don't usually "fix" that. They usually just give you a new phone. The problem is, I replaced one of my Arcs and the new one developed this issue as well so I've been living with it for a couple of months now and it has only gotten a little bigger and more annoying. Looks like the CPU, despite reaching the thermal barrier and throttling down it makes the device too hot on the inside. Surprising, considering the size of the project and countless tests.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
It's not a design flaw, if anything it's a process QA issue.

Most of the cases I've seen were from people who overstressed their cpu/batt by doing excessive amounts of benchmarks and other stupid sh!t. The Xperia was a special case where design also played a significant part.

Again, IT'S NOT A DESIGN PROBLEM. It's just the glue hasn't had quite enough time to cure yet, don't overheat the interface and the problem will literally fix itself in a week or so. If it doesn't, return it.
[Nexus 4 General] Nitemare3219:
It's amusing how some people seem to know exactly what the problem is. I guess it's even more funny that there are several different ideas of what exactly the problem is.

People, please settle down and just WAIT to see what other phones do. Sure, some theories make sense. But I guarantee none of you know for a fact what the problem is yet.
[Nexus 4 General] SiemensLover:
hhh... do u really believe that??? A clue problem??
[Nexus 4 General] crackabean:
This scares me. :\
[Nexus 4 General] dillym34:
I picked mine up at T-Mobile this morning I've run multiple benchmarks and it been running (on) for 3 hours straight. And I can't see any yellowish spots on my screen yet. Will comment if I do.
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
Guess the moral of the story is don't get this phone warm. Easier said than done though :/
[Nexus 4 General] clay_cauley:
I thought about getting from T-Mobile, but figured I'd go for the unlocked instead and use their $30/month Unlimited/100 mins plan.

Hopefully you don't see the yellowing, I got mine ordered in the first batch from Google Play ... fingers crossed!
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Set the screen brightness to 100%, put on a white background and check again.
[Nexus 4 General] dillym34:
Brightness 100% and pure white background still no yellow spots. Like I said if I notice any appear I will update.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
I think you're jumping to conclusions based on the anecdotal evidence of one user and the unfounded fears of anxious consumers.

---------- Post added at 03:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:07 PM ----------

Every time I see people do this I have to ask: if you do this and you find something you don't like that you never see in any other use case, aren't you really just looking for trouble?

I remember when the iPad 2 came out and everyone was going into a closet, opening a black image, turning brightness up to 100%, then comparing lighting patterns and getting upset that the lighting wasn't consistent and showed hotspots along the edges. I have never, ever used a tablet that way; what difference does it make?
[Nexus 4 General] raptir:
I had this on my One X. Looked exactly the same but over a larger area. It went away after about a week.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Thanks for your time!
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Like that would EVER happen on here....:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] FatalityBoyZahy:
So you'd be okay if your device had a cracked screen?

I mean, it will still work, right? But that's not what you expected the device to be like...
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
The more you speak, the more you show....I'll stop here.

Tell me this buddy, How's the percentage of website that has a white background and black text?
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
Just enjoy your device. The same thing happens to other phones that were rushed into production for launch. After a few days the glue should dry and the screen will appear fine. My device isn't shipping until tomorrow, so I won't get it until Monday. I'm expecting that by the time I get it, the glue will have had adequate time to dry and will appear fine.

If there are other more serious issues, I'll probably wait to report it until sometime in January. This way if there are other existing hardware issues, hopefully they will be found and squashed by then. I don't buy into the doomsday "worst phone ever" posts.
[Nexus 4 General] jaZzyjeff818:
The bottom half of my screen looks yellow compared to the top :/
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
I don't think that's an appropriate comparison. If it was a magical crack that only appeared when I was in complete darkness and turned the screen brightness up to 100% with a white background while standing on my head in a total vacuum I probably would let it go. Then again when I got my Nexus 7 it had a tiny little bit of lift in the screen and I shrugged it off because it in no way affected the operability of my tablet and now the lift is gone and my tablet is perfect, so I am apt to not let nitpicky things bother me.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
The wrong concept just stick and don't go away.

It's NOT because of the glue is wet/not dry bla bla bla.

IT'S THE GLUE EXPANDS UNDER HIGH TEMPERATURE. Remember you press on LCD screen and it shows ripples?
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
You're not going to hurt my feelings. But I'm not your buddy, pal.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Thanks for addressing the first few words of my post.

How about the rest?
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
I understand that most websites are black text on white backgrounds, but if you're having to turn the brightness up to 100% to see a small yellowish dot then how does that translate into real world use?

EDIT: I'm not trying to argue with you; if it bothers you by all means do what you're going to do to be a happy consumer. But getting bent out of shape over something that 99% of users wouldn't even notice to the point that you're getting mad at others for having another perspective on the issue is a bit much.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Geez guys.. How many review videos did you watch without hearing anything about this?Relax...
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Let me clarify, turn the brightness to 100% to make those spots EASIER to see.

Those are visible on white background with 50% brightness.

And those are not dots, not dead pixels, but yellowish patches.

P.S. Since you edited your post, I would dare you post that to Sony Xperia S LCD Problem thread.
[Nexus 4 General] BLAQK ROXSTAR:
I was just thinking the same thing. People need to relax and stop with the panic/Google/LG rage posts. If this does turn out to be a real issue I'm sure Google will replace it, just like they did with the early batch of Nexus 7's.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
This isn't the Sony Xperia; my whole point is that this isn't a widely-reported issue and people are getting up in arms about something that one French website and one user has so far reported. No other reviewer has mentioned it; no other users here on XDA have mentioned it, and at least one if not two users have specifically reported that they do NOT have the problem. And yet here you are getting pissed off at me for some imagined slight. Like I said, if you're unhappy with your phone do what you're going to do. Maybe this will be a catastrophe of epic proportions and LG will go down in history for making the most flawed smartphone display ever with horrible yellow patches that mar the user experience beyond repair. Until that happens, I don't understand your militancy on the issue.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Well its not widely-reported because...um... how many people have Nexus 4 in hands now?

I've been through this cycle before with Xperia S: Tons of fanboys won't listen to a few pointing out some obvious hardware flaws, then device is released and delivered and tons of thread complaining about yellow spots.

But yeah just stop listening, go through that cycle again.
[Nexus 4 General] raptir:
No one seemed to see my post, but I had a yellow tint on my One X that went away after a couple days. If it doesn't, get it replaced. Google is great about that. My fourth Nexus 7 is on its way due to screen lifting issues.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Couple things, then I'm done with this. There are lots of people who have Nexus 4s right now; many of them who are paid to review it and look specifically for these types of issues. Not one of the sites that I have come to trust for reviews, Engadget (well, they've gone downhill over the past year), The Verge, Ars Technica, etc., reported this issue. We've had users already who have not reported this issue, and some have specifically stated that they don't see these spots/blemishes even after looking for them.

So I'm not sure what's so "obvious" about this alleged hardware flaw; it hasn't been obvious to everyone, apparently.

But let's say for argument's sake that you're right; this is going to be Android's antennagate and tons of users are going to have hideous blemishes on their screens. What to do about it right now? The thread has been posted; anecdotal evidence exists that this might be a problem to look for. But until/unless it becomes a serious issue, the phones have been made and those of us who ordered aren't going to cancel because a guy on the forum demonstrated a yellow spot on his phone after performing benchmarks. If, in the normal course of my using my new phone, I see an ugly yellow spot that distracts from my using my phone I'll return it. Until then, getting people angry and worked up over it doesn't serve any rational purpose that I see, and getting mad at me for thinking that your test is outside the norm and may not be reasonable for average users doesn't seem very productive to me.

That being said, I respect your passion and I think it's great that you care enough about your fellow users to want to make sure they're getting the best bang for their buck. Let's shake hands and move forward together to try and both do our part to build this community instead of arguing with each other. :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] cydyjjshan:
I understand your every concern about the hardware of the devices, my opinion is now it is still too early to make the judgement. Nexus is not Xperia S, there is no reason that they much follow the same cycle. (Thats possible, but now not enough clues...It is also possible that there is almost no problem of the Nexus 4 except few bad lucky guys)

Let's wait for one week...
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Pointless bickering while majority of people have no device... Oh, so usual. I recommend stopping it nao before it turns into a flame war and mods get involved. Seen that happen way too many times. Just a friendly advice for your own good.

Regarding yellow.

1. We have to wait and see if it disappears after a while.

2. There is no proof of anything so for the time being I'd recommend staying on a safe side and trying not to get the phone too hot for a few first days.

3. We need to wait till more people get their devices to see if it is a really widespread issue.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I agree..lets just relax and wait. I am optimistic about everything regarding this purchase and if there is an issue know google will take care of it. No need to worry or freak out..
[Nexus 4 General] :
^^^this^^^^

The voice of reason

Thank you

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[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Yup, and apparently they still haven't learned with the HTC 8x launch, but some of that could be Microsoft's fault, And people wonder why they are getting smoked by Samsung.
[Nexus 4 General] jaZzyjeff818:
So I've noticed the screen looks yellow when I view it straight on but when I tilt the phone to the right and view it from an angle it looks perfectly dark. What gives? I'm gonna wait it out and see if it goes away, hopefully.
[Nexus 4 General] Macklessdaddy:
****'ll buff out
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Just look at the response I got here.

People will rush and buy anything.

So why would they try to do better?
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
True, but if a phone is his source of "laughter or happiness," then his life or death response is valid as well. The yellow spot could lead to a frown, that frown can turn into sadness, then that sadness could become chronic and lead to depression. Don't dis the yellow spot man, this is some serious stuff. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] jacklebott:
The yellow spot killed my family in cold blood. One day, I shall take revenge on it... FOR MY FAMILY!
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
yeah the yellow spot might not occur for everyone..but this thing happened on my lcd nexus s like 11 months into buying it..and i had to replace the screen+digitiser.. it jus sucks cause it isnt a software problem we can work around or avoid atleast...i hate even small hardware problems like this..
[Nexus 4 General] poid:
you've had a completely ridiculous overreaction to a problem that may not even be widespread...what kind of responses did you expect? If you saw someone running around screaming "the sky is falling" because there are a few clouds in the sky how would you react? Because thats what you have done.

Seriously I hope a whole pile of devs get their N4's soon and we get some real threads because the N4 section of XDA is shocking right now.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Congratulation on your hyperbolic post.

That's exactly I was saying.
[Nexus 4 General] qwahchees:
I actually like it :D
[Nexus 4 General] raiderep:
Yet another case for the "benchmarks are useless" crowd I say...and I am starting to believe them. Real world results are all that matters to me anyway, pushing a quad core processor(in a phone!) to its limits is fruitless.

Sent from my SPH-L710
[Nexus 4 General] uberNoobZA:
no... a GLUE problem
[Nexus 4 General] Vertron:
OMG OMG OMG. 2 people now have yellow on their screen! That must mean it's a widespread problem! I'm on the phone to the Play Store right now to cancel my order as this phone has a serious defect! The yellow spots are going to kill us all! WHHYYYYYY!!!

There's only one solution now. I'll have to buy an Iphone 5, it only costs 3 times as much. I hate you Google!

I'm joking if you didn't already guess. Stop overreacting people.
[Nexus 4 General] agabe:
Everybody hopes it will be not a usual problem, but tnot too much phone has arrived to the ovners yet.

We will see.
[Nexus 4 General] huntedsoul12:
Try shaking your phone not too hardly. Do u listen something rattling inside? Oh god.
[Nexus 4 General] gideonMorrison:
I like Google a lot, but thank f-ck I'm no pink glasses wearing fanboy. One should always remain critical
[Nexus 4 General] agabe:
Yes I can ... I read it the other topic, but it isn't interesting for me...not a big problem. Something rattling a bit, only if I shake the phone, or knockig backside on the top.
[Nexus 4 General] huntedsoul12:
Hmm I think I figured out mine problem, it was the volume rocker key. When I hold or cover that key I can't hear anything. Ah everything looks good to me :)
[Nexus 4 General] theoneofgod:
The only device I've not had rattle is the Lumia 800.
[Nexus 4 General] JohnnyL53:
This is the most adult comment I've ever seen on a forum of with a high ratio of alpha personalities.
[Nexus 4 General] franchise:
Well I have a Sprint Optimus G and I have this yellow tint on the bottom left part of my screen. It sucks, I'm going to try to deal with it but we'll see..
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
Anyone ordering a first batch of a new phone shouldn't complain about hardware problems...obviously there are going to be a few of them here and there, either deal with it or send it back. I doubt the Nexus 4 is your first phone and no phone out there has 0 hardware problems, even S3s and iPhones have hardware issues, just send it back, it's part of life, nothing is 100% perfect all the time.
[Nexus 4 General] Barso1:
The corner of my iphone 5 had a yellow spot but I think it was caused by too much pressure from the case. It was obviously tightened too much when assembled.
[Nexus 4 General] assbanger:
You're damn right buddy! The iPhone screen did have the same issue!
[Nexus 4 General] Nospin:
Yup, just shook my current device (Tmo G2) and it rattles slightly.

Rattling=Non issue.
[Nexus 4 General] nafpez:
Just read this whole thread (slow night in work) and I have to admit im glad I didnt get the phone on release. Ive had this exact same problem with the HOX! Battery heated up from doing something I wouldnt have thought particularly processor intensive like watching youtube, which made a massive yellow blotch on the screen.

People saying "Oh its only one device thats had this" or "well, none of the reviewers have mentioned anything about this".... None of the reviewers mentioned anything about the HOX having this problem, but it was definitely there!

While I really am not into scaremongering others, im holding off for a few months before getting it to make sure the problems are ironed out first, regardless of the low price, if im buying something brand new, I really dont expect to have to send it back within a week!

I can see both sides of this argument, but given the fact that there are reports of this screen tint, and the fact that it was so bad on the HOX, I think i can live a few months longer to see what it turns out like.
[Nexus 4 General] bakron1:
I am in the US and bought mine from the T-mobile store and I have had no yellowing issues with mine and have been suing it like I normally did with my GNEX. So far, I am loving the phone. Hope you get it replaced, don't give up on it, I think it's a great phone and I am going to stick with it and make it my daily driver. Good luck., hope everything works out.
[Nexus 4 General] sahilk:
Did you run bench mark tests and stress test your phone to make sure?
[Nexus 4 General] sglscovill:
Meh, this is just a manufacturing glitch and your phone has a warranty just for that reason. Contact Google and send it back. These things happen, especially when there is such a high demand.
[Nexus 4 General] jaZzyjeff818:
Yellow tint?
[Nexus 4 General] nafpez:
This confuses me! Are you trying to show your phone doesnt have the screen tint with these screen shots? If so then screen shots arent going to show any tint. If not then im still confused what you're getting at lol.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Good luck convincing fanboys here.

HOX's yellow spot problem wasn't as bad as Xperia S.
[Nexus 4 General] mrfrag1337:
I see a yellow tint in my Nexus 4, but is so light, i think is the glue of the first batch.
[Nexus 4 General] OneStepAhead:
My entire screen has too much yellow. The colors are absolutely horrid on the Nexus 4 I received. I have an Optimus G sitting next to it which apparently has the same display and there is a night and day difference. I don't suppose google has any devices available for replacement either.

On the left is my Optimus G and on the right my Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Those are both on the same brightness?

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[Nexus 4 General] OneStepAhead:
Here they are side by side with both brightness settings on max