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[Nexus 7 General] James-NC:
I held off updating untill this afternoon after reading all the horror stories.:laugh:

Now that I have I like the update just fine.Things are smooth and fast and my screen looks a lot better!It helped the colors and contrast so things are much easier on these old eyes.I kept root fine but like others will have to wait for the stickmount fix to use my stick drives.

My HBO-GO crapped out but with a few reinstalls and app data wipes everything else works great.I guess I will have to wait and see what HBO does for it.My only negative thing that bothers me most is my gmail widget no longer works.I always keep it on one home screen so I can check it easily so I hate it is screwed.:(
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
You need to give a few more details:

1) Have you defined multiple users?

2) Is your Nexus rooted using SuperSU?
[Nexus 7 General] bkmaracas:
Hi, I did mention just the one user is setup though i did set another one up and subsequently delete it which could be a factor.

All stock as a baby me. Was snappy at first, then since going down the multi user route its not been so good.

Also finding when I check battery that when asleep there is regular WiFi engagement in a regular repeating time pattern, sure didn't have that before.

Here's a quick pic. Anyone else had this since 4.2??

No big deal just noticing difference. Been flushing caches and killing processes to hunt any bad boys but nothing obvious.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] ecossais:
Lack of USB OTG

Lack of usb-otg is a deal killer for me. Back to 4.1.2 until this is resolved.
[Nexus 7 General] ArRaY92:
I am so happy I never did the update and stayed at 4.1. This looks so unfinished... And from the opinions I am reading, I think I am not alone.

They should just have made the quick toggles real toggles, not stupid shortcuts! The clock on the lockscreen, oh gawd! And the overall inkonsistent design hurts really much too.

But google somehow likes to abandon really great design Ideas, like with the youtube app where they changed the great horizontal tabs to retarded vertical based collapsible content boxes, or let alone the mess that is google music UI wise...
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
Google Music is great, what's wrong with the ui?
[Nexus 7 General] Saturn1217:
I like it

As someone who just bought the nexus 7 and quickly fell in love I can honestly say that 4.2 is just fine. Chrome is definitely better at scrolling although still not where it should be IMHO.

The lock screen widgets were the most confusing and aren't really helpful on a tablet. I really like them on my gnex because I have a pattern lock. But I imagine very few people use a pattern lock on their tablet so here it isn't necessary. But there is an app in the play store that fixes this. Just Google it.

Another tip. Changing the transitions and animations to 0.5x makes everything smooth as usual (not that I was really seeing a problem before)

I also really like have different regions of the screen dedicated to pulling down the settings vs the notifications. Even in portrait I got used to it very quickly. I still think regular toggles would be better but I actually have the toggles from an app so I like having both. (Switching WiFi on and off with a toggle is great but sometimes I really need to get quickly into WiFi settings to choose WiFi networks)

Even on my gnex which I expected to have the most problems I've been pretty happy so far.
[Nexus 7 General] tcat007:
I'm liking 4.2. I got impatient and did the framework trick, worked first time. All my apps seem to work. First time using android keyboard' takes a little getting use to after using Swype for a year, but I do like it better. Actually has a "." on the number screen! Like being able to manually enter words in the dictionary.

ssLauncher seems to work the same, but one added plus, is when adding widgets the text is a much better contrast.

Xscope browser has no issues. Flash works fine. Does crash occasionally, but no more so than it did on 4.1.2. PS: Browser only crashes with flash enabled. No crashes since I disabled flash, but flash works fine when I need it.

Not sure what everyone's lock screen problem is. Mine looks almost identical except for the bold hour, looks OK to me, although a different font might be better. Date is more readable. My koi live wallpaper looks good on the lock screen. If you don't like the clock, just put your calendar agenda there and delete the clock. My lock screen is on for about 15 seconds a day, so I don't really care what it looks like.

I don't use the right side pull down, use Widgetsoid so I get actual switches on my screen. I also like the left notifications. I have top bar hidden with my launcher, and now one swipe pulls down just the top bar, a second swipe pulls down the notifications. Works and looks much better to me.

Very happy so far.

Edit: Just found another PLUS... Amazon appstore looks much better! Everything is larger and readable. My "before-after" lockscreen (I like the swipe to calendar!):

I just noticed the time is in the notification bar, so I'm deleting the clock and just using calendar agenda.
[Nexus 7 General] sladflob:
Anyone else finding there table occasionally hangs for 15-20 seconds? Worst culprit seems to be typing something into the Google search box - it's like the whole tablet locks up while it's getting the completion list. I'm rooted and haven't added any new users.
[Nexus 7 General] scott_doyland:
Hi,

I noticed this occurred for me on 4.1.2 and 4.2. My wifi battery usage looked just like yours.

In my case it was the Facebook app. I uninstalled it and rebooted and then I don't get the WiFi constantly waking up in sleep mode.
[Nexus 7 General] voyager_s:
After a few more days with it now, I think its been OK. :rolleyes:

On the nexus 7 I haven't seen any issues yet. Seems to work well.

On the galaxy nexus however, its not so fine. Been having a lot of slowdowns and lock ups here and there. And in particular been getting a lot of force closes, where the launcher shuts down. Annoying.

Thinking about flashing back to 4.1 on the galaxy nexus. Gonna give it a while longer and see. Seems to be getting better a bit.
[Nexus 7 General] gkarthik16:
I was really hoping that the landscape mode of the home screen would look like the one on the Nexus 10, but it still the same from 4.1.2.
[Nexus 7 General] DroidRunner:
Its not Android 5.0, its an update, just not a big one. Bugs will get worked out.
[Nexus 7 General] AngeleDei:
That is just not true.

USB OTG has NOT been disabled at all. There are a couple of possibly poorly coded apps that currently dont work with 4.2, but then there are others like Nexus Media Importer that work absolutley fine with 4.2. I've got a USB OTG cable, 4.2 and Nexus Media Importer and I have just read 3 different USB sticks.

So buy Nexus Media Importer rather than blaming Google. There are a lot of posts here that point out that Media Importer works fine.
[Nexus 7 General] coversnail:
No, people should blame Google, they didn't release the developer sdk until the day 4.2 was pushed to the public. Apps that aren't working aren't 'poorly coded', the developers have just had no opportunity to adjust their apps to the new file structure. It would have taken Google all of 30 seconds to email all Play Store developers describing how internal memory would be partitioned due to the new multi use function.
[Nexus 7 General] AngeleDei:
4.2 has been out a few days now. The developers have had an opportunity to adjust their apps to the new file structure. If they have not still, then it is their problem.

The apps will be corrected (if they dont and they were useful enough then someone else will create fixed versions of them), its not Google's responsibility to make sure that every person who has written anything against their software is kept fully informed of any changes in an email. You dont get the Microsoft or Apple or Linux doing that. It is the responsibility of the developers to react to changes and fix them.

Google were doubtless working on the changes until the day it came out. I know that in the world of development, that tends to be the case. Its very, very rarely the case that a bug free release comes out, fully documented, on time, on budget and with all the features intended. Certainly, in 27 years of programming I cant think of any major releases the companies I worked for have managed to release like that.

Its not like its a major disaster. Its just a handful of apps (most requiring rooted machines) that are not working. The vast majority are fine.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
Apps which used the SDK, be it the 4.1 SDK or 4.2 SDK, when asking Android for the "External storage location" would still work. Those which did it manually are which are failing.

So only low-level apps which directly accessed things are having issues.
[Nexus 7 General] Brac20:
My first impressions are mixed.

Like:

- Some of the functionality of the multi-user feature (like being able to quickly check my fiancee's work schedule)

- New Gmail app

- Google Play Music, especially the music finder

- New clock widget

Don't like:

- Google Talk not working for second user

- Paid apps not being available across the device

- Not massively keen on the smaller dock icons but I will get used to it

There are probably other things. Performance wise I've not noticed much of a difference.

To me it feels like 4.2 was a bit rushed so they could hit the release date of the N4 and N10. I think we'll see a 4.2.1 in the next few weeks that should fix some of the issues people have spotted.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I'm warming up to it now. After a few charges and reboots, battery life and project butter are coming back into light, and now I'm seeing developers slowly but surely update their apps for lock screen widgets, I'm really liking that feature now too. My favorite thing? The recent tasks list, the new animation is sic!
[Nexus 7 General] tcat007:
My earlier comments were very positive, and still are. My current lockscreen, no problem with a bold HOUR on this one (very small blue "7" :good:):
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
This is minor but here's something I don't like. The clock in the notification bar never hides on the lockscreen anymore. Probably a stupid gripe I know but it was a subtle change to ics that was nice. I imagine it's due to the fact the lockscreen clock has become a widget that can be changed, so if you change it, you won't have a default clock. Solution? Add an auto hide clock option.
[Nexus 7 General] johnchad14:
Day 2....batt drain elevated again. NFC used 39% of battery in standby... Turned that off now. Figured that might warrant a look on others battery usage. Never had it show up on usage at all before.

Stock unrooted
[Nexus 7 General] Supermanpa:
I really like the new features, just wish you could add any of the widgets to homecreen. Hopefully in a future update.
[Nexus 7 General] Logan_M:
I don't find there's much difference between it and 4.1.2. For general use the only thing I notice is the text is bolder, which I'm not sure I like much. The clock widget is cool, but I don't like the widgets on lock screen; or the new number pad, it's too small, the last one was better. I'm the only one who uses my Nexus so multi users isn't a big deal for me. But the rest of my family shares a Transformer and a Nexus, so multi-users is working pretty good so far.
[Nexus 7 General] demosthen3s:
Yeah I noticed the same issue the other day. Overall battery life and performance have been noticeably worse since upgrading to 4.2. I'm also running stock unrooted. Let's hope 4.2.1 fixes things and arrives soon.
[Nexus 7 General] xmoox:
Ive noticed multitasking works so much better and haven't had any lag anyone's talking about. I took the ota. Lock screen weirds me out though with that edit box
[Nexus 7 General] clintonroche:
Other than the GPS acting wonky, I am have no issues. Noticed a little lag at first, bur for the most part that is gone. Battery life is still undetermined, that will take a few days to settle in.
[Nexus 7 General] Rolandh:
After using my Nexus 7 for less than one day I like 4.2 better than 4.1.1, didn't use 4.1.2 for long as 4.2 came down not long after booting into 4.1.2. But I think the duel pull down notifications looks better than the small pull down in the centre of the screen like it is in 4.1.x.

Will report back when I've used it more.

Roland
[Nexus 7 General] daddygene:
No, actually you are wrong.

Can't.

Take.

The.

Whining.

Please.

Make.

It.

Stop.

Please.

This "forum" is starting to feel like group therapy.
[Nexus 7 General] JNeail:
Impression's so far:

The good:

- the idea of multiple user accounts

- nice picture editing tools

- new swipe keyboard (but still getting used to it)

- improved GMail

- improved Chrome

- improved Google Now

- smaller home icons

- lock screen widgets

The bad:

- frequent slow downs and freezes

- slower screen transitions

- laggy app switching

- works fine then for no reason goes very disappointingly laggy :(

- apps frequently crash or stop responding (Facebook especially)

- laggy keyboard (clicks but misses characters) which was cured on 4.1.2

- poorly implemented multiple accounts i.e. no app sharing

- faster battery discharge - can't prove it but it feels like it

Nexus 7 C80 / Stock & Un-rooted 16GB UK version 2.5GB free storage. Upgraded rather than factory reset (suspect I need to do a full wipe and rebuild?)
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
People whining about the whining are just as annoying as those whining, maybe even more
[Nexus 7 General] arcisbre:
What I've found so far: Lockscreen has changed - you can now add Widgets.

New wallpapers - love 'em.

Settings bar and notifications bar is split into two.

Swiping across homescreen is smoother.

Keyboard has definitely changed - now has swiping capabilities!

Live wallpapers, especially on landscape view - don't lag!! :)

Icons are smaller in the dock on the homescreen.

New clock/clock widgets with stopwatch/timer.

Camera app UI has been modified. - why don't they add a launcher...

Apps show permissions

Daydream in display settings - not sure what it does yet.

For people who's tablets are lagging get this IMMEDIATELY:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kovit.p.forevergone

Pics:
[Nexus 7 General] sk8trix:
I keep hearing so many negatives about the 4.2 update.

I am rooted on 4.1.2 and I love it

Also is there a way to make to lock screen like 4.1.2 or only with Roms?

Should I just wait until the next update I have only had my new/us for about a week now but I am very knowlegable as far as flashing Roms and working with android
[Nexus 7 General] kapitanbasa:
noob question

not new to android but new to nexus 7. just rooted and unlocked my 4.1.2 32gb n7 yesterday...and now im seeing a lot of negative reviews about 4.2....im planning on waiting it out and just wait for the next update...

how do i turn off the OTA update that keeps on reminding me to upgrade?

thanks!
[Nexus 7 General] menaceinc:
got updated today then rooted with wugs toolkit.

So far so good. I didn't like the look of the clock on the lock screen.
[Nexus 7 General] sk8trix:
Yes same here its got me all messed up too because this is my first nexus device and I have been wanting all the constant updates but with the battery and freeze up issues idk if its smart to do it just yet.I have a android of my ROM I'm sure if I do the update I can go back but still it will be a hassle maybe I will wait for the next update.
[Nexus 7 General] josephislee:
Battery is SO much better after updating. Didn't wipe from 4.1.2 rooted.
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
For everyone holding out, just do it. It seems to me most of the issues are just from the update not "setting in". Cycle the battery at least 3 times and reboot a couple times, and all the issues with speed and battery life will go away.

I would say at this point, the battery life is fixed

Also I'm loving the lockscreen as more developers update their apps to support it. Overall it a great update, totally worth it.
[Nexus 7 General] Warren_Orange:
Same here

I took it off charge at 1pm and its still on 100%. I have hardly used it but wifi has been on constantly. Also, I put it in Aeroplane mode last night at 71% and 10 hours later it was still at 71%.

So far so good for 4.2.
[Nexus 7 General] JNeail:
Just select 'cancel' when it offers the update - job done :)
[Nexus 7 General] ingenious247:
Wrong. It continues to tell you to install it.
[Nexus 7 General] jamadio:
Google "FOTAKill". I believe there is a thread called OTA nagging you can find more details.

IMO, I would update. I get the impression most people are having trouble because they did a dirty flash over a custom ROM running 4.1.2 or the 4.2 zip on XDA is less than perfect. I did a factory install of 4.2 straight from Google's servers and I love it. Major improvements across the board.

You also have to consider that all of people are complaining about design aesthetics (don't like the lock screen/clock/etc.) which are not flaws but opinions.
[Nexus 7 General] tcat007:
Pretty good summary here.

I agree with it all. Liking keyboard best (and I really liked Swype)
[Nexus 7 General] Saint Dave:
My music seems louder and clearer on Google music app , coincidence ?
[Nexus 7 General] tcat007:
I noticed that too, also on you tube videos.
[Nexus 7 General] yaroslav_s:
In the file "/system/build.prop" find the string starting "ro.build.fingerprint" and after symbol "=" add the following "google/nakasi/grouper:4.2/JOP40C/XXXXXX:user/release-keys"

Instead of XXXXXX place the figures from the string "ro.build.version.incremental"

Make the nandroid backup prior to this.

For editing file use Root Explorer.

After editing - reboot and connect to the Internet - the reminding should stop.
[Nexus 7 General] spvnexus:
I do like it and the new keyboard is awesome. But it does feel slower than 4.1.2 IMO.
[Nexus 7 General] gotzaDroid:
I love the keyboard and I'm happy I was able to port it to my ICS phone, because it's nice to use the same keyboard across devices. But my number one feature I like the best is the profiles. I share my N7 with my wife and before 4.2 I couldn't add my work email and now I can. I didn't need one of my kids sending some long string of letters to my boss or something like that! Did I mention my wife leaves the tablet laying around where my kids can get to it? Yeah.....

Anyways, overall I'm happy with it and am looking forward to Google getting more N4s in stock so I can use 4.2 on a phone. Did I mention that there's no JB ROMs for the vivid? Yeah.. .
[Nexus 7 General] shane1diamond:
I enjoyed the update ago much I reverted back to my beloved glazed jb 4.1.2 with otg working:)
[Nexus 7 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
I like it and with most cases newer is better, but one thing that is bugging me with 4.2 is the removal of the "Settings" shortcut. It used to be in the noti pulldown. And can we access the the second pull down? .. I've tried using two fingers but it just pulls down regular notifications instead of the quick icon menu :(
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
Two fingers along the right edge.

In the case of my Roo case - that blocks the notification area - it works better in landscape.
[Nexus 7 General] veeman:
You don't even need to use two fingers. A one finger swipe down to the right of the camera will pull down the quick settings.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Awesome.. Thanks guys! N7 noob here :D. I tried so many times and just didn't have my finger far enough over lol. Oops! Thanks :)
[Nexus 7 General] SteveC485:
I really do think that 4.2 is pretty decent. I think the 4.2 keyboard is the best I have ever used on an android device. Way better than the 4.1 versions. Chrome is better too. I can get used to the difference s pretty easily and would be happy enough if I were unable to revert to 4.1.2.

There are a couple of flaming PITA's however that did make me restore my sgt7 4.1.2. One thing I do not like is the way the storage locations are messed up due to the multi user business. Having a multi user option is fine, but have the update roll the single use mode and ask if the user wants to install multi use. It is a pain to have to roam around moving files from the mysterious "storage 0" nobody ever heard of before. The big thing was the loss or the Sgt7 ability to put the menu buttons on either side of the screen in the tablet UI.

But now that I reverted and have done this post from the 4.1.2 crummy keyboard, I'm about ready to switch back to 4.2. I see a tablet UI fix posted for 4.2, so I may try that. At least I now know where to move stuff from and to.

At any rate, I suppose there will be 4.2 ROMs of cm based and other versions soon enough. Apps will catch up.
[Nexus 7 General] jt.one:
likes:

+ clock design

+ Google's "swype" keyboard

+ dual pulldown notifications

+ gmail improvements

don't care for:

- multi user (I liked it at first but seeing all the problems it has been causing... dislike now)

- daydream (not a bad idea but it doesn't catch my eye yet)

- lockscreen widgets (useless IMO)

- hiding developer options (no need for the hide)

- smaller home screen icons (didn't see the point in doing so)

- not fully functional photo sphere

can't comment on the battery yet as I've yet to cycle my battery for 4.2

probably still things I haven't played with yet too.

overall its not a huge upgrade over 4.1 but what were some of you guys expecting? even though it's 4.2, its still in jellybean, we are not gonna get huge drastic overhauls... wait for 5.0 KLP for that....
[Nexus 7 General] clintonroche:
fyi, factory reset and the Nexus 7 is running great. Also took the time to clean up all the old apps I downloaded and used like once.

Sent using Tapatalk HD
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I think a factory reset is always a good idea after a major update. Sure you can just update and go on your way, but typically I've experienced more bugs every time I try. It's just like windows, you can upgrade it straight too but for the best experience, a wipe and fresh install is always recommended
[Nexus 7 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Is there a way to factory reset on a stock N7 without a custom recovery?
[Nexus 7 General] T-Keith:
I think I'll like the upgrade on my phone better, since a lot of the features aren't necessary on my tablet.

Keyboard is great, but so is swiftkey, camera is a nice upgrade. Toggles are in a good spot for phones , but I really don't need them on my nexus 7. Multiuser might be good, but I actually have enough tablets for everyone.
[Nexus 7 General] coversnail:
Settings > Backup & reset > Factory Data reset
[Nexus 7 General] Cor-master:
I'm still having a somewhat high battery drain. I'm at 72% after 24 hours and I only had used the thing less than an hour, most of that is standby, got wifi set to shut off too. While using it I'm experiencing a percent drain every 5 minutes or less, advice?
[Nexus 7 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Sounds like your is doing better than me :-/ I'm down to 30% by 4 or 5 o'clock everyday and don't use it a whole lot..
[Nexus 7 General] Goes1967:
I think you are right about that, I got mine few hours before the update to 4.2 when live, updated, working like a charm.
[Nexus 7 General] giuliastro:
Never rooted or unlocked, upgraded a week ago from 4.1.2 to 4.2 and it feels terrible. I am having heavy performance drops and hiccups.

Very disappointed.
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
I'm waiting for all the custom ROMs to make sure all the sdcard issues and multi user issues are all fixed up before I jump.
[Nexus 7 General] techlifeweb:
Flashed stock 4.2

Mostly for experimental reasons, I decided to wipe everything out and flash the stock 4.2 image from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Then my apps restored via Google automatically. Then I ran ForeverGone to do a refresh of the storage.

I happened to open FasterFix and noticed my device was syncing with a time server in Asia instead of North America. This is probably a result of the stock image but still something to note if you did that too.

I think battery performance is worse now but I still need to cycle it to be sure.

Still need to do more testing.