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[Nexus 7 General] MerkurMan:
I'm not sure if I was just unusually out of it this morning, but the alarm in 4.2 doesn't keep the screen on when it's ringing, and when I turned the devices (I use both my N7 and Gnex as alarm clocks) on and swiped to unlock, the alarms were turned off. I usually hit the snooze button once or twice, and I was used to the 4.1.2 pop up which would snooze when I tapped the time display, and had a button to dismiss the alarm. Guess I'll have to run some tests and adjust my morning ritual. Good thing I have a third backup alarm that actually woke me up this morning . :o

Yes, I have problems getting up in the morning.
[Nexus 7 General] WibblyW:
What determines the timeout after which it kicks in?

Bugette? If I use the "Currrents" option I just get prompt to login when testing it, but it seems to work if I wait for it to kick in on it's own.
[Nexus 7 General] neils31:
I like the new features so far, although rotate screen has some lag.

anyone tried tapping the version in settings quickly ;)

then try tap and hold on what appears :)
[Nexus 7 General] :
Just got the update not long ago.. Here are my impressions:

As someone said before, text as a whole looks a bit sharper. I think that is is because it is now slightly bolded in gmail etc.

Performance is slightly better; home screen and app drawer scrolling is smoother than 4.1.2.

,multiple users is cool, could be a good idea for my daughter. But I added a user for 10 minutes and I checked battery stats and the news user was already taking 5 percent of my battery! Seems like having more than one user may be a battery hog and It may not be worth it for me as it is mainly me only using my tablet.

New settings notifications are good, but I hate how it scrolls all the way to the bottom and then back up again. Minor annoyance but hopefully it is fixed.

Haven't been able to test out the battery life of 4.2 but I will report back in a few days. All in all a worthy update! Not dissapointed but not blown away either.
[Nexus 7 General] DrEzkimo:
where are the quick settings I read about? I cannot find a way to bring up the menu...

edit: oh ok found it :o
[Nexus 7 General] shrome99:
Swipe from the right side of the status bar for quick settings, left side brings the regular notification panel.

Rest of the stuff is pretty average, but I'm kinda disappointied by the quick settings. They're shortcuts that take you to settings, and not actual switches. Still, better than nothing :p Also, I'm sure this will be implemented in custom ROMs.
[Nexus 7 General] mkouk:
It is worth upgrading purely for the optimised font smoothing and the swype like keyboard.

Everything else is a bonus but I too don't like the bounce back feature of the notification bars.
[Nexus 7 General] O2Blevel:
Wasn't there something like this in 4.1.2

How do you get rid of all the jelly beans?:D
[Nexus 7 General] mmegalodon:
**Pros

*The dual notification pulls

*Swype-like input (working GREAT on this end, great with my stylus):good:

*Smaller dock icons(?) - can barely tell, but I feel everything is already too large in stock

*Lockscreen widgets - the idea, at least

So far spent, in my short time, my only negative is the lockscreen widget option being ever present. I like that they added this feature, but I can't seem to disable this option. Results in that widget box showing up when first unlocking the screen. Visual niggle.

I was also annoyed by the notification bounce, but I noticed it only happens if you pull it down past where it "ends." A short swipe down renders this issue moot. In my book, at least. :D

The Google profile link ... redundant, much like the actual "toggles." But I like it more than not.
[Nexus 7 General] luciano.chavez:
Although the keyboard gesture thing is cool, I was looking forward to seeing the top row of keys also access the numbers as secondary keys like I saw in some of the photos in reviews and like what SwiftKey provides. Anyone know if there is a setting to enable that? I haven't found it.
[Nexus 7 General] joe23521:
- Not crazy about the lock screen. At all. Clock design is not good. And an empty widget box flashes to the left of the current widget every time the device is turned on. Any way to make that go away?

- Only four available lock screen widgets to choose from, all of which look horrible visually.

- Split drop downs good idea. Could be implemented better. The bounce-back effect is distracting. The quick settings icons are way too big.

- New font seems sharper. Dock icons smaller. Both good subtle changes.

- Multi-user a great idea for tablets. Haven't played with yet.

- Swipe keyboard works VERY well.

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I didn't even realize they're not actually toggles. So then, bad form AND bad function. I hope that'll get fixed soon.
[Nexus 7 General] PMOttawa:
There's a helpful app available on Play that allows you to turn it off (although you can't change the ugly clock font).

Lockscreen Features Policy

by Chislon Chow

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5jaGlzbG9uY2hvdy5kZXZpY2VhZG1pbmtleWd1YXJkIl0
[Nexus 7 General] BlackDino:
To make the keyboard select your naughty words, add them to the dictionary.

Ive added all the swear words in there and now it never gets them wrong.

Also pretty sure you guys may need to wipe, coming from a clean tablet I have experienced no lag.

Love everything, but the multiple notification shades are annoying, I keep swiping down the toggles
[Nexus 7 General] AdamK123:
This is great.

I really hated that white partial rectangle that appeared next to the clock (the open space for another widget) and this makes it go away.

Thanks!
[Nexus 7 General] BlackDino:
The google profile link, actually changes users if you have multiple accounts.

Also if you lose your tablet / phone someone can see whos profiles in there I guess?
[Nexus 7 General] gesitkumara:
I really like the feel and look of 4.2.

-the digital clock widget both on home & lock screen gives a sleek and modern look

-the lock screen widgets are useful, but it need more compatibility with other apps

-i was expecting more privilege settings for multiple users features

Overall, love 4.2 and never want to downgrade :)
[Nexus 7 General] ingenious247:
That and the multiple users is a fail. Slows everything to a crawl. Image quality is so diminished its pathetic. I'm reverting to 4.1.2 tonight. CM nightlies are better done than this update was...
[Nexus 7 General] joe23521:
Thanks for this link. Will definitely use it.

Just tried to remote install from the browser, but apparently my Nexus 7 is no longer linked to my Play account after the upgrade. Will have to figure out when I get home.
[Nexus 7 General] Sarcoid:
The rotation is a toggle but things you expect to be a toggle as well aren't (like Wi-Fi). I would expect turning on Wi-Fi to go to the settings screen (maybe a user wants to select what to connect to) but I agree the most common use is probably turning Wi-Fi off/on.
[Nexus 7 General] mmegalodon:
Ahh, must have not heard that. Makes sense. Not sure what you mean by the second part. As in accessing owner info? That's why I've always liked the idea of the lockscreen owner info. Further lockscreen options would be welcomed.

I've seen a couple mentions of dodgy input, or less accurate input. I actually feel quite the opposite: everything seems more accurate including input via the stylus. At least it feels like it on this end.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] PMOttawa:
Less than underwhelmed...

I think I regret doing this upgrade... which is sad, since I was SO looking forward to 4.2 based on what I had read. And getting it was one of the reasons I went with a Nexus tablet in the first place.

But I don't feel the new features are implemented very 'elegantly'. Toggles, don't toggle. The notifications pull down is on the wrong side of the tablet for the hand I use. I hate Hate HATE the implementation of the lock screen widgets and the clock font. Loss of the tablet UI option.

Many of the other nice upgrades (camera, improved Google Now Cards, etc.) were already available as a separate download.

Honestly, it should have been a point upgrade. I'm glad it's not Key Lime Pie. Very disappointing.

That said, I won't downgrade for one, make that two, reasons. For me the Washed Out Colours problem is fixed!

And, what's the point of going back to outdated software. After all that's why I bought a Nexus in the first place. Life goes on.

:confused:
[Nexus 7 General] quidnunc:
I didn't like the lock screen either. The widget flashing makes it look like it's in some kind of edit mode and I would just prefer to have multiple widgets right on the screen - I don't want to have a carousel.

They also have a circle for unlock and a different circle for Google Now which seems stupid to me.

The swiping seems OK but the speed is hurt by it not predicting as well as Swype. I couldn't get some words, even in suggestions without very precisely going over every letter, and sometimes not at all. Then on top of that I couldn't find a way to go back to edit words (ie choose a different suggestion). It's decent but needs more work if they want to increase speeds. The only reason I am using it is the current Swype beta is screwed up.

The one major difference I noticed is scrolling is much more smooth. Performance in Chrome also improved but I think it's because they turned off some processing to make pages fit better. Its not as friendly to browsing in portrait as it used to be but I will take better performance over stutter and hitching.
[Nexus 7 General] CJHolderUK:
The blank space fills itself with different things, ranging from a GPS toggle, when your using the GPS to alarms toggle when have alarms set. I also noticed the screen wash fix, looking great now. Gesture typing is great. One thing I really love is the new clock application, the design is flawless and the new way of managing alarms is very nice and user friendly. Instead of that stupid popup. I'm glad they removed the tablet ui as it was fugly. The new ui, which I think we should stop calling it phablet ui, is the reason I got the nexus 7. :) One annoying thing is the recent apps screen zooms out so when you click away it will take you back to the launcher, not a massive thing and the new animations make up for it.

You can remove widgets by holding them and moving them to the remove text, like on the launcher.
[Nexus 7 General] sandnap:
I didn't like the idea of losing tablet mode when I first heard about it last week and therefore my expectations were set pretty low. Given that, it's actually growing on me :). I think the situation will improve as applications that are currently not functioning are fixed. I for one am quite pleased that Google is experimenting with different ideas instead of settling and allowing Android to become stale (ahem... iOS ;)).
[Nexus 7 General] TonyHoyle:
The buttons all go to the corresponding settings page, apart from airplane mode, which is a toggle, and brightness, which brings up a separate dialog.

Completely inconsistent. It was better with just the settings link there... WTF were google thinking?

OTOH the swiping keyboard is good - I could never get swype to work.. it never understood what I was trying to type. This worked straight away.
[Nexus 7 General] quidnunc:
I think the font is ugly but the alarms are easy to make and remove now. If they gave an option to change the style it would be perfect for me. In the long run I would like Google Now integrated into the calendar properly with the option to make it trigger an alarm.
[Nexus 7 General] shenyi:
Thanks for the tip but unfortunately I can't seem to remove it. I get an enormous plus sign and when I lock then unlock, the clock widget reappears.
[Nexus 7 General] scott_doyland:
I guess it depends which Google human designs which parts of the GUI as to how good it is.

The quick settings pulldown is rubbish. Fire the human that designed that.
[Nexus 7 General] AraDreamer:
My captivate Glide's always done this. Nice to see Google put it in too.

As flyer the small dock button, why? It's not taking up less space! -Ara
[Nexus 7 General] GragonV:
Look likes a lot of apps still do not run well on 4.2, considering updating :(
[Nexus 7 General] tu3218:
+1000 on the lock screen. I hate it. Every time I turn my screen on, it looks like I'm in edit mode. Its a mess.
[Nexus 7 General] JaSauders:
So far I'm liking pretty much everything I see. I also feel as though switching between open applications is quicker than before. I really have nothing bad to say about it based on what I've seen so far... been using it pretty extensively for the last 20-24 hours. :good::good:
[Nexus 7 General] MerkurMan:
Still experiencing some niggles. Chrome is having moments of unresponsive touch, has stopped responding a few times, and I just got a reboot while I was viewing this forum.

I really don't want to wipe and start over but it's looking like I have to at this point.
[Nexus 7 General] dgattenb:
My Google play is not working, my keyboard is the same as it was, and gmail is the same . but the market place not working under 4.2 is there worsted, I'm not rooted , stock image , please help!
[Nexus 7 General] Aquagene:
My screen keeps randomly shutting off, despite a 2 min sleep timer. Being in a case doesn't seem to change it. Pretty annoying when reading or browsing the web. Might end up flashing back to 4.1.2 if they don't acknowledge/fix this anytime soon.
[Nexus 7 General] erica_renee:
I think you need to do a full wipe and install the Full 4.2 image . This helps improve performance as well as some of the quirky isuses with some google apps..

I Did this then restored my backup from rom tool box.. apps and app data . It became unstable again similar to the things you mention above..

Also if you are Root UPDATE Busybox. this solves for some reason some of the slow multi user issues with Su.. For me anyway..

My complaint.. The Lock screen seems Not complete.. And the stop watch menu is so lame and colorless. Kinda like the bold font on the hour number. whats with that.

For those who have not noticed. Kinda quick press the lock screen clock.When you see the square around the unlock button . Slide it as if you were going to go to home screen. This brings up the stop watch/alarm feature..

My biggest issue is lack of color everywhere.. Come on google We are not all colorless guys
[Nexus 7 General] taffypride:
First impressions....annoyed that it completely wiped my memory card, thus loosing my previous Rom backups - but maybe that is my own fault for not keeping the backups backed up on the pc....

Secondly... it's actually not bad, despite not seeming to offer anything at first glance which is different to 4.1.... the one feature I could however live without is the MultiUser thing..... my g/f uses my Nexus all the time and it makes no sense have seperate user accounts... who are we? Microsoft users???
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
It did no such thing, I assume you mean Nandroids? They're just not in the place that TWRP expects them to be.

They were /sdcard/TWRP, which is now /sdcard/0/TWRP

TWRP will update, as will other apps that do specific path type of stuff.
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
I can't seem to zoom in gmail. I came from stock rooted and used Scotts deodexed rooted 4.2. Any ideas?
[Nexus 7 General] redondogabriel:
you have to check that option in settings

i love the update, also, there is a force MSAA 4x in developers option!. and other cool new developer options.
[Nexus 7 General] jayochs:
yeah, i'm not a fan of how the lock screen looks either. i think how it SHOWS that you can scroll is stupid, and they'll def. get rid of that. agreed with whoever says it always looks like you're in edit mode.

i also hate the right screen dropdown for quicksettings because i'm right handed and hold it in my right hand, so swiping for notifications was easy with my right thumb..now i have to use my left hand to do it, and it's just awkward.

i also seem to be having more launcher redraw now than ever. how the hell do we fix that?
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
Hmm I don't see that option in settings but I am on 4.2 gmail. I must be missing something
[Nexus 7 General] coversnail:
Settings > General Settings > Auto-fit messages
[Nexus 7 General] parmend:
Is swiping the home screen fixed. It would bounce back a lot on 4.1.2
[Nexus 7 General] ynrozturk:
After having the chance to play around with it for a few hours, I can say I quite like it. I wasn't expecting much, so thus I'm not super disappointed. I'm coming from stock 4.1.2.

I think the lockscreen is fine, it will just take some getting used to, nothing major. I like the clock, it looks different and sleek. I wish we could add more widgets to the lockscreen but oh well, I'm sure it will be implemented in the future. We can't have it all at once or updates in general would be pretty pointless.

The scroll down notification bar is kind of annoying, and having the notification toggles on the right - I wish they actually turned things on and off. I'll be sticking to Power Toggles for that. Two finger swipe down would have been better, as it would be better for left handed users. Not sure they quite thought that one through. I'm not left handed but still, from a design aspect/functionality aspect it could have been better.

Will never use the second user option so I don't care about that feature.
[Nexus 7 General] kieso:
Thanks! I was just looking for a title saying zoom.
[Nexus 7 General] monty13:
I Really Really Dislike how the Lock Screen Widgets are implemented.

I wish we could choose between an analogue or digital clock (I think the digital one they have is Fugly).

And that annoying flash on the left every time you turn the display on is going to drive me insane. Yes Google, I KNOW YOU CAN ADD BLOODY WIDGETS! NOW STOP REMINDING ME! See quoted message bellow for a way to remove that stupid flash on the left

Also, for those people who like a minimalism type setup, allow us to have No Widgets. Pretty Please!

The new notification/quick settings menus are ok. Having the ability to add/remove functions from the quick settings would be awesome. I just wish the Notification one extended a little further down.

The multi-user accounts is a nice feature, but I'd like to be able to disable it, as I will never be using it.

I'm loving the new GMail - I get a lot of emails which greatly benefit from the ability to show everything and zoom in.

And overall, it feels fast and smooth.

And another thing I like is that the app you're currently in gets included in the list when you open the 'Recent Apps List'.

Dude. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Nexus 7 General] sahshah:
^^ You can choose analog clock in settings. Check.
[Nexus 7 General] bkmaracas:
I read some folk saying that multi user slowed things down ... I got that impression too after setting up a test user. My own account seemed less snappy than before.

Hope Google can sort that out. Don't see my having an 8 GB would matter the user was only setup no extra content. Back to just me for now....

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] monty13:
For the lock screen?

Where?
[Nexus 7 General] PMOttawa:
same place where you set the alarm clock. Go into settings and you can choose a minimalist analog clock... all in one font size.

...........

I was wrong. No you can't.
[Nexus 7 General] TheGrammarFreak:
I dislike the smaller icons in the dock, the changed iconography in gmail and the changed behaviour in the notifications

Lockscreen is nifty, everything else is fine. Not sure why they hid the developer options though...
[Nexus 7 General] monty13:
Doesn't Apply to the Lock Screen Clock.
[Nexus 7 General] TheFluffyOne:
Still pretty prominent here for me with the brightness on its lowest setting and any sort of Wi-Fi activity going on. As before it's only really noticeable in a darker environment.
[Nexus 7 General] PMOttawa:
Sorry...

...........

I was wrong. No you can't.
[Nexus 7 General] dcoaster:
The new lockscreen is AWFUL. The flashing "add" box is annoying as ever. The fact you have to click the widget to open this new unlock box to open it is ridiculous. Why is Google Now just a small dotted, inconspicuous circle at the bottom of the screen? And the new font? Don't get me started with that... The lockscreen is definitely a mess and Google needs to figure out how to fix it ASAP.
[Nexus 7 General] zombiest:
Anyone else having slow battery charging issues? I've had it plugged into both my PC and the wall for the last 2 hours and it's only gained about 10%. It seemed to charge a lot quicker before 4.2
[Nexus 7 General] monty13:
Yeah, I know that. You change it to analogue and........ You still have the digital one on the lock screen.
[Nexus 7 General] ynrozturk:
Yeah that doesn't apply for the lock screen.

Could you provide a screen shot if you were able to do it?
[Nexus 7 General] MerkurMan:
Yes, definitely. I was using it while plugged in and the battery percentage was actually dropping. Odd.
[Nexus 7 General] PMOttawa:
Yikes. You're right.

You can't even remove the clock altogether. The lock screen just keeps putting it back.
[Nexus 7 General] joe23521:
The new lock screen is VERY poorly designed. The available widgets, while equally ugly, are extremely inconsistent in visual style. They look like four horrendous widgets designed by four individual bad designers and then put on a singular device.

Also not sure why they added the additional dotted circle to access Google Now. Why not just swipe the unlock button upward to get there?

Just seems like they had a handful of different concepts and decided to throw it all together.

I thought that ever since ICS, Google had finally found a nice and coherent design language for Android. This is a step backwards IMO.
[Nexus 7 General] shenyi:
The dock shrinking icons bothers me. In the app folder they're all 'normal' size. Perhaps I'll get used to it but for the moment, I prefer continuity.
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
Staying on paranoid for now. I honestly am not a fan of the changes made in 4.2. The two notification drawers will confuse a ton of people. Also disappointed that most of them aren't even toggles. I sure hope this doesn't kill the cm toggles especially on phones.
[Nexus 7 General] ontoptherock:
Liking it a lot so far, keyboard I'd awesome compared to what the stock one was before
[Nexus 7 General] Franklin7777:
I freaking hate the flashing area for a new widget on the lockscreen, the swiping on one side for notifications and the other for settings (plus the nonsensical bounce-back on these), and the butt-ugly new clock. I didn't even realize the settings pulldown options were links and not toggles, but if that's true then I don't like that either. I'm going back to 4.1.2 and waiting for 4.2.1. This was clearly rushed out the door to meet the schedule for the new Nexus hardware and is not fully baked.

I do like the new keyboard, but so far that's it for things I definitely like better than 4.1.
[Nexus 7 General] zombiest:
I've turned off Daydream (even though it wasn't actually running the screensaver) and deleted the additional test user I created and it seems to have helped. I've gained 8% in the last 10-20 minutes.
[Nexus 7 General] helloterence:
Is it true that tablet UI doesn't work anymore? If so, I'm going to stay on 4.1.2...does anyone know a way to get the tablet to stop reminding you that there is an update?
[Nexus 7 General] rmm200:
I have been using Swype Beta, which I like a lot for the voice typing feature - and the TTS add-in.

For now I have switch to the stock Android keyboard to give it a try.

Gesture typing seems good - but will have to see if it is good enough to get rid of Swype though.

Will miss voice typing - and have not tried stock text to speech yet.
[Nexus 7 General] blackhand1001:
Unlock bootloader and install cm10 or paranoid. You'll thank yourself.
[Nexus 7 General] helloterence:
Link for the lazy? :)