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[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Can the description for this 'About xda-developers.com' forum either have its description changed OR moderation sticks to what it says.

It's description is "Anything to do more with the site than with the phones. Feature requests, announcements, praise, moaning, etc."

Quite a lot of times, I have seen moaning threads which have been closed and the reason being something along the lines of "This site will change ONLY if it's for the better, which this isn't."

Now, I can totally understand the threads being closed if someone is simply moaning about the 10 post rule, as that has been spoken about way too many times and will not change until a better alternative can be implemented. I can also understand a thread being closed if someone was to simply moan about this site but didn't provide any examples or suggestions to combat what they'd said.

But, more than just a few times, I have seen constructive criticism, which provides proof of their point and suggestions to improve upon it, simply closed for the aforementioned reason.

This is also true of the opposite - praise.

Obviously a lot of people enjoy coming to XDA (otherwise they wouldn't bother) and some people like to show their appreciation by creating a thread in this forum to express their praise.

Sometimes these threads will simply be closed though, and generally have no explanation to its closure.

Again, I can kind of understand it being closed if quite a few members were posting in there to simply increase their posts to 10, but closing the thread and providing a reason can take just as long as clearing out some posts.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
The way I see it, there should be no OT section,and there should one OFFICIAL OT thread in each device forum. The rest should get locked right away. XDA is turning into OT site where people just come in to hang out. And yes, I do participate in OT.

Sent from the fridge. Make: LG Model: N4
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Seeing how original development, extreme(sarcastic) examples, and such where being brought up, I thought I would ask this.

I can haz RD title fur deodexing a stock rom?

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=122702772

I know that's an extreme example. But really, someone gets a developer title cause they deodexed a rom, themed it, and released it. Shouldn't, if anything, he had gotten a RT title? That I could understand.
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
Hi gary,

While I cannot comment on your entire post, I just wanted to let you know that the bacon thread has been moved to the actual OT area.
[About XDA developers] cwhitney24:
:thumbup::thumbup::beer::beer:

Edit nevermind lol. It's cool I understand. ...

Sent from the Bacon Pope's Galaxy Note 2
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
I am writing this with regards the recent articles in the portal.

I must say, it takes a lot of courage to own up for mistakes and taking active interest in correcting the ones with a public impact...

And the recent (re)article on the entropy issue was a really nice step and one in the right direction...

Since I'm still really new to development, I do take quite a few portal article for its word and believe in them (for plenty of varied reasons), and I'm sure that I'm not alone in this :)

And its good to know that I can still trust them to provide knowledge as good as within their power...

Hats off for that!

But but but,

Another article, icon for SuperSU...

I know this is CF we're talking about, and the almost universally used SuperSU that's the subject...

But hey, its just an icon!

You're only diluting good content here...

Now, I don't mean to undermine anybody's work...

Icons ARE tough, I've myself tried and I've failed and so I understand they are the product of someone's hardwork and imagination...

But an icon-competition still does not feel something article-worthy, already given SuperSU's popularity...

Just an opinion on what I thought was three steps forward and one step back.
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
Just out of curiosity, how are we supposed to know when something like this comes up? It's not exactly on ABC News. A fun contest like that is an Android news story worth reporting, in my opinion. Don't like articles like that? Then just go right past it - there's plenty more to read. Just my opinion, offered in the same spirit yours is.
[About XDA developers] sgt. slaughter:
What your describing and complaining about is the absolute reason why there is now an Original Development forum.... And more so why there is the developer talk one for a couple as well...

Fact is that XDA now is bigger than anything anyone thought likely, and honestly if you are here for pure 100% development then I'd imagine you should care very little about what happens in general and qa sections and focus solely on the Original Development and Developer Talk sections where the real stuff happens....least that's my personal suggestion for those that are here for 100% development purpose.

Don't let some nonsense in going on in the general section bother you. With the size of xda its best to try and coral the nonsense into one thread for the most part for the big popular forums(esp sprint ones :) ), bc there is not a reasonable solution to handle the stuff that will get posted otherwise that I've seen.

Wanna go back to an old style xda, ok. But that's near impossible with the size of the userbase at hand now. The new sections that the excellent Admin group have added are in a sense a mini old xda in themselves, and honestly seems to be the best way to handle it. Imho.
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Are you referring to the comments about the "stock firmware being called development" or the comments about multiple "off topic" threads in the general section?

Either way, your response isn't addressing the concern. Those two items were EXAMPLES of the lack of consistent moderation and rules enforcement. They are clearly marked as EXAMPLES. In fact, here's a quote from that post before the examples (with bold emphasis added):

I tend to disagree about not caring about other device sections. "General" is where I talk with people about the device. Q&A is where I see what issues people are having with the device and also try to offer help with the device. Notice that in both cases, it relates not always to development, but to the device.

The nonsense itself doesn't bother me. It's the lack of consistent moderation and rules that bothers me. I couldn't care less about "bacon" or "off topic" threads. It irks me, however, when a moderator not only allows but ENDORSES a "bacon" thread at the same time as:

Moving out a thread discussing the wall charger that comes with the device itself.

Moving out a thread asking for help because user was stock at a boot screen on that device.

Moving out a thread concerned about bugs in an OTA update for that device.

Moving out a thread discussing google video chat on wireless data (not wifi) for that device.

Locking a thread asking how to trade another device for that device.

Locking a thread asking about potential hardware issues with that device.

Locking a thread (duplicate) about an OTA firmware update for that device.

That's clearly sending mixed messages. This tells users that, in a device's "general" section, that "bacon" is okay, but conversation about the actual device isn't. (edit: I don't dispute that the above threads should have been moved/locked - I'm just trying to contrast the offtopic cruft with the on-topic cruft.)

An honest question: Isn't that what the off-topic sections were created for?

I've long ago given up on asking for the "old" xda to come back. It can't happen. I'm trying to give suggestions and feedback to make the current XDA work better - for both developers and non-developers. One of those suggestions is create an environment where a person can reasonably know ahead of time if they are doing the "right thing" or not. That requires consistency by the people making AND enforcing the rules.

Currently, if a user were to post a dozen threads in a device section with completely off topic subjects, how can the moderators give them even a warning when a clear and ACCURATE defense is that those same moderators have allowed so many other off topic threads?

Take care

Gary

Oh, and contrary to what at least 2 people think, I really don't have anything against bacon. I tend to prefer link sausage with my eggs, but I don't complain if I'm given bacon.
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
Not sure what exactly you mean by this...

Ah, the good old "Don't like it, move on"...

I get it, thanks!
[About XDA developers] sgt. slaughter:
Since you said you didn't disagree with the threads being moved/locked and your point is geared to OT stuff... I can tell you one reason I and others create an OT thread is to let them have their place in their device section to fool off in within means of course. Otherwise you end up having even more nonsense go on that ends up being out of control as there are not enough mods to police everything non stop.

While I agree OT forum is for OT stuff, I will say that most users view their device section as a "home" of theirs so to say and never venture to the rest of xda site much, unless searching or on the portal... XDA is simply too large now to house everyone from all sections in the broader forums like OT and Android general... To make the device forum 100% about the device and that only you kinda kill off some of the friendly atmosphere that the general section has for the users of that device...

Example when the next HTC EVO device is announced its allowed to be discussed in the current HTC device forum in a single thread before the forum for it is created... I don't think it makes sense to force those users to have to discuss it in android general when most of the people talking about it will be from that device anyway... Also makes it a hassle for the user to venture to a separate forum for one discussion thread...

The general for the device is like a users home in a sense imho... Its nice to be able to chat with only the people you interact with on a daily basis some...
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
That's a reasonable response, but leads to other questions: How many "OT" threads should there be in a single device's general section? One? Two? Seven? If there's already an "off topic" thread, should there be another thread for "off topic food items" and a third for "off topic gaming"?

If a single general section OT thread is permitted, then I'd suggest that the concept be enshrined in the rules, the single OT thread made sticky (so its easy to find) and with a clear subject ("All Off-Topic discussion here") and all other off topic threads merged to it. This should be done for ALL the device sections in order to provide consistency.

Personally, I don't agree with the need for an off topic thread in each device's general section, but I'm only a single person. Actually, I tend to agree with the post you link to in your signature: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441

I'll quote some of it:

That kind of conflicts with the idea of an off topic thread in a device's general section...

At least discussing the "HTC EVO II" (fictional name) in the "HTC EVO" section has some relation. Of course, there's probably also going to be a thread for that "HTC EVO II" in a few other HTC device sections as well. I think a BETTER solution (and one I now know is possible) is to let that thread be created, but to move it to the proper section (android general?) and leave the redirect there. Once the "HTC EVO II" device section is actually created, the redirect can be removed. This gives the best of all worlds.

Edit:

However, all this is getting pretty far from the original feedback... Which is that whatever the decisions are, they should be documented and consistent. Currently, it's not the case.
[About XDA developers] cwhitney24:
Some people just won't understand that sadly. Some people are just stubborn and like to be concerned with things that do not affect them in any way at all...

Sent from the Bacon Pope's Galaxy Note 2
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
The off topic threads were made for a reason. As many of the older mods learned it is either one thread or dozens of threads that pop up each and every day.

I have no issue with a place to blow off steam or talk about upcoming devices. As stated most users will never venture outside their devices forum nor do they have a reason to. If having one thread saves hours of removing other threads then it is well worth it.

Batcom2
[About XDA developers] undercover:
I think Gary's point is that more than one thread is allowed in one place,and then not allowed in another. He's talking about lack of consistency.
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Thank you. I thought I had restated that several different ways so that people would understand, but apparently not. Seeing that at least one other person understands makes me feel a bit better.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Well, I've been reading your posts from pretty much the beginning of your adventure on request threads, so I guess it helps in understanding (although I think your message is clear enough anyway). While I disagree with some of your ideas amd find others a bit naive (you'll get a bit more cynical with time) I agree that XDA lacks consistency in moderating. Some mods are no BS, some allow a lot of freedom. It is understandable that they are different people and that approach might differ, but how difficult is it to have some consensus on that little topic like OT threads in device forums?

SM sends a mass PM : "Strictly no more than one OT thread per device forum". Done.
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Keep Attached Files

Hello everyone.

In the settings-menu there is a list of your attached files to the XDA-Forum.

It's in the misc. section.

If somebody deletes your posts, the attached file to this post also gets removed from the file list.

But i'd like to keep the file in the list.

How about a Forum Section about Phone-Cameras?

I suggest a button that takes you to a random post/thread in the XDA-Forums

Have a nice day :)

PS:

If something in this post is wrong, please tell me what. ...instead of facepalming.

---------- Post added at 09:10 ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 ----------

...and i live in Germany. (GMT+1) but sometimes the times are displayed in GMT+2!
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Can't you download private messages as EML-File?

---------- Post added at 11:01 ---------- Previous post was at 10:23 ----------

Hello, hell_lock.

Having Friends on XDA isn't bad but if you don't want it, you can simply remove all your friends.

And/or turn off notifications.

Which notifications?

(Quotes/Mentions/etc. ?) - can't you disable them?

If so, it must be

optional

for all XDA-Users.

There's this thread however! ;)
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
It is optional for all members as everyone has the option of having only friends be able to contact them via PM.

Also, that thread isn't needed here as feedback was given, not a request to change how that part of the system operates.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Moderators have an option to keep attachments when they delete posts, usually though we don't bother either because no one will be seeing the attachment once the post is deleted or because the post has been reported because of the attachment (eg. inappropriate image content).

If you want a specific attachment kept if a post is deleted then you should report the post in question so that the moderators assigned to that forum can arrange this.

Such a feature will be completely useless and won't get used IMO.
[About XDA developers] Tomoms:
I'm a time traveler :D

I don't know if this has been reported yet. There is a bug in user's statistics... Look at the "Last login" time :D
[About XDA developers] :
Yeah, that bug's been around longer than I've been a member, lol. Strange that it hasn't been fixed yet. :p
[About XDA developers] :
I've just come across a minor bug in the BB code system, [MENTION=2235607]svetius[/MENTION], [MENTION=450224]bitpushr[/MENTION], and [MENTION=278202]the_scotsman[/MENTION].

Simply put, I am unable to (noparse) user mentions. For example, if I type this:

(noparse)[MENTION=3125148]KennyG123[/MENTION](/noparse)

...(using brackets, of course - parentheses are in use for example purposes), instead of coming out as a plain text "@" sign and "KennyG123" text, it is parsed like this:

[noparse [MENTION=3125148]KennyG123[/MENTION] [/noparse]

Would you care to assist me and/or fix the potential bug? :svetius:
[About XDA developers] Spannaa:
What bug @ИΘΘK¡€ :confused:
[About XDA developers] :
Eh?

Looks like it works for you. Hmmm. :confused:
[About XDA developers] Spannaa:
Yep ;)

It needs to too, otherwise posts containing code with an @ and a username would get broken...
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Heelp‼

I am limited to give only 8 Thanks per day.

Why does such a limit for thanks actually exist?

--- to avoid thanks-cheating/spamming?
[About XDA developers] :
If you read through all of the posts on this thread you will gain a better understanding of why the admins have limited Thanks giving to 8 per day.
[About XDA developers] coax75ohm:
Haven't been here in a bit and the front page of the website got broken. Get some script error and there isn't even a link to the forums. Plus it's ugly now.
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
XDA Style Chooser

Me too;), i don't like the 2015-Styles very much:(

Simply switch to an older style in the Style-Chooser Menu at the bottom of the Page and choose the XDA-Style you prefer.

Feel free using the style chooser‼ :laugh:

...but there is no style chooser on the XDA's News Portal. (www.xda-developers.com is the News Portal, forums.xda-developers.com is the forum Page.)

I'm a bit sad about that.

Happy new year ☆ 2015 ★
[About XDA developers] coax75ohm:
I don't see any Style-Chooser Menu, must be part of the broken javascript.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Looks like its working now. Also there is a link to the forum on the top bar and personally I disagree with the ugly comment, I think it looks a lot better than the old version and it fits in nicely with the 2015 forum theme but that's just my opinion :highfive:
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Info Screen for every thread ☻

I suggest making an info-button for all threads which includes misc. information about the thread

View Count (Guests)

View Count (Members)

View Count (Total)

Posts Count

Rating

Thread Status

OP

Last Post Date/Time YYYYMMDDHHMMSS

First Post (OP) D8/Time YYYYMMDDHHMMSS

And more... ☺
[About XDA developers] Spannaa:
How about we just dev and not worry about completely unnecessary stuff...

Sent via Bacon...
[About XDA developers] absinthesummer:
I don't know if anyone answered your question, but I've noticed it happens when users have super gif-y signatures (think flashy gifs) it seems to interfere with the page display for some reason.

Another reason could be an issue with ads not displaying properly for whatever reason OR if you use an ad blocker- it could be making the ad itself invisible, but not the ad window (which would cover the text and graphics).
[About XDA developers] :
We already have:

View Count (Total)

Posts Count

Rating (and number of people who rated!)

Thread Status (Open/Locked)

OP

Last Post Date/Time

...displayed on each and every thread's listing in a forum. You can easily check the OP date/time by simply clicking on the thread, and the split-type-of-view-count (Members/Guests) has already been dismissed as unnecessary in a previous post in this thread.
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
There are no alternative themes for the portal, only the forums.

If it's still happening, providing a screenshot as well as the link (if it happens on specific pages) would be helpful. :)
[About XDA developers] absinthesummer:
That's a great idea too. For me personally, I haven't experienced the issue recently, but it was at it's worst a few months ago, before the latest theme release. If I happen to catch it again I'll try to SS it. Thankfully the poster who's signature had a huge gif enough to make my whole screen flash and spaz out got rid of the gif for me(I just had to agree to marry him someday...) but your idea might lead to a better solution site-wide ;)
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
...i know.

Thank you for answering but what i meant was an info button which includes all information at one small single screen.
[About XDA developers] :
Yes, I understood that, but what I was trying to tell you is that having a whole separate screen per thread would be illogical because of how many of the things you listed are already readily available without the bloat of yet another different screen.

Do you get it? :p
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Well, ok ;) But...

...there's also something like 4th Jan 2013 - Most Online Users.
[MENTION=561758]Spana[/MENTION]aa If you find this useless, then surely you also find this useless lool:

Registered Members

Members Online

Guests Online

Number of Threads on XDA

XDA Total Post Count (Wow, more than 50 Million, Respect‼)

View count of User Profile
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
Feel free to send us invites to your marriage! :p

FWIW, if a signature is too large, you can contact any moderator and we'll have a look. :) While there are no restrictive size limits to allow members to put whatever they want, signatures that are too large (more than 250-400px in height) or distracting aren't allowed (an easy solution is to use [HIDE][/HIDE] tags for large banners).
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Two new Ideas

1. Mention with old username

Example:

If i mention a Member with changed username [MENTION=1096869]thenook[/MENTION]ieforlife3 or [MENTION=1074788]iamtheone[/MENTION]TheyCallNÉO

then ИΘΘK¡€ and ΠΣΘ get a Notification in the Mention tab of their Userprofiles.

2. Embedding Vimeo into XDA-Posts

It's already possible to embed [IMG="ÝôùTǔbê"]http://xdaforums.com/images/editor/bbcode-youtube.png[/IMG]-Videos into XDA Posts.

How about a feature for embedding Viemo Videos in to Posts?
[About XDA developers] orangekid:
1) What if someone registers with the name IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo now that it is free? Well you'd be mentioning the wrong person, so I don't think this is feasible.

2) Possibly, but I figure anything that is on Vimeo is already on YouTube..
[About XDA developers] eagleeyetom:
Okay, while I do understand that XDA needs some changes, I do not understand why should we implement such things as advanced users stats, Vimeo/Mediafire/Vine videos etc. We should stick to development instead of making the XDA a second facebook...
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
Is this possible?

If so, you're right :svetius:

Not Everything :p

Example: http://vimeo.com/75947443

GIVE YOURSELF A SMACCKKKKK‼!‼
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
Mhmm…

Did you mean:

Tumblr

MySpace

Facebook

Google+

GeoCities

?
[About XDA developers] absinthesummer:
I believe the idea is to provide feedback for things that could be useful to users site-wide, not just things that are useful to one or two users. We already have so many threads that derail and people more interested in socializing & popularity than development. Thankfully YouTube has some useful tutorials, I don't know about vimeo.

Some ideas you have are cool, but others would probably be more trouble than they're worth to implement, they wouldn't be useful enough site-wide to spend the effort and time on them. Recoding & redesigning a site this big to change small things here and there is a daunting prospect.
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
How about...

...

Number of GIVEN thanks The total number of thanks you gave to other XDA-Members

Attach files to Private Messages? Not a bad idea or?
[About XDA developers] :
The number of given thanks might be rather pointless because of how you technically have an infinite number of thanks to give. See what I mean?

You can always Dropbox the files you want to attach for PMs, but I agree that actual attachments would be useful. :good:
[About XDA developers] Hannah Stern:
@ИΘΘK¡€ (Post•ID 58100822)

Well, yes :) i see what you mean.

But it's just an interesting statistic ;)

Thank you for your Quick Reply :svetius: