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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Agree. But I avoid buying just released phone because of high price. I m not sure what wud be the price of S4, but I guess at the time of launch it wud b around 70K, which wud be little too expensive for me. No doubt it will be a better option considering hardware and software, but I think I have made a right decision by keeping in mind the price factor. And so far MashAllah loving this great device. :D

White color is also looking quite good.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Ohh...i did install the Franco kernel but the kernel updater..That i did not know..Will give it a shot though :)

Thanks :o
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
No issues.. FYI attached is the voltages I am using with no lags... The minimum cpu frequency is 384 and max is 1350.. and my IO scheduler is deadline and governor is interactive.

I would say lower the voltages by 20 - 25 each step till you find your sweet spot..:cool: enjoy
[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
undervolting is stupid. ﻿it can increase battery life and can lead to a host of other issues (like lower signal strength)
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
If you are having other issues like low signal strength then it means that you have undervolted more than you should have... there is no one rule undervolting settings.. it's a trial and error solution.. finding what's best for each..
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Thanks man..will try it...

PS->Btw is this hotspot shield icon up there in the statusbar :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
yes it's hotspot shield...
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Finally nexus 4 protectors arrived at hafiz center. Covers gonna arrive tomorrow or a day after that IN SHA ALLAH.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Im already getting like 18 hours with about 4 hours screen on time... I wouldnt think your quote is really any better than stock kernel without undervolting... :-/

If i were to use the phone less i could easily reach the same amount of standby time... Tho who needs more than maxxxx 20 hours standby... Think everyone charges their phone at night... As long as the phone last a day... How much is the max screen on time you can churn out on a single charge you think with the undervolting...??

I agree with saleem... I've always undervolted to some advantage and never had any signal issues etc... Yes the random reboots if you under volt or underclock too much... But never issues with signal...

Tho in the implementation of Jellybean I recall reading a lot about undervolting and under clocking doesn't go down too well with the core functioning...

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That's good... Only problem here tho with buying a popular phone later on is the market gets flooded with refurbished sets and you really can't tell the diff... Only a person who knows can tell... Its happening a lot in Karachi now... With all the Galaxy series... Esp the S1,2 and 3... Tho its easy to see a fake S1 and S2... The s3s are very hard to spot... You need to check something under the battery by the label...

Phones like moto or lg, noone bothers getting refurb since there no market... LoL

Anyway... Enjoy the s3... Tho I think the Grey looks super sexy... And very professional... Much better than the other played out colors...

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[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
How can i get it here in Peshawar?

Also i was unable to find it on Hafeez centre Site..Can you post the link here?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
True. This is the reason I spent 10K extra to get a phone with warranty (teletec). Total 54K for 16 gig..

I remember how I was betrayed with my One S (without warranty). That seems to be a refurbished phone. Coz when I signed in to drop box on that phone, I dint get any bonus storage which u suppose to get.

But anyway this phone seems to be brand new. Got 50Gb free drop box storage for 1 year. :P. Though I know it may not be the way to differentiate b/w new and refurb phones, but just wanted to share my experience.
[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Is it safe to buy nexus 4 from shophive, can we trust them? What about cellmart.pk?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Haha... Yea thats no way to tell if its a refurb or original, but with the s3 probably a smart choice to get it with warranty... Tho... If you paid 53 for the s3... Im sure you could sell the One S for about 30... So that gives you a joint 83k... Even if you round that off... 80k... You could DEFINATELY get the S4 in that much money... I would have just waited if i had that many funds... But oh well...

Its Pakistan... Noone can be trusted... :P

Always safer to buy yourself directly from thr manufacturer or physically see it yourself before purchase from a physical shop...

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[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
How're you doing, fellow Android users?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
No, it wud be very difficult to sale it at 30K, though it is in excellent condition. And the new one is available now for 35K. So i think anything around 27 to 28K wud be a good deal.

I ll post an ad on olx and will visit hafeez center on saturday if i get time.

And about S4, well as i said it wud be expensive, though i have budget, but still i believe for me atleast, spending 70 or 80K on a phone is quite useless. But if someone can afford it easily, not useless for him :P

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Doing great man! U tell? :)
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
I'm okay. The weather all over Pakistan is great today. Rain is expected tomorrow in Lahore. Hurrah! :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah. Yesterday it was good too.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Havnt seen you for a while... :rolleyes: :D LoL

How you been...??

It rained in Karachi a few hours back... 30km/h winds followed by thunder and rain...

It sucks tho that accu weather takes like 10-15 mins to update what's going on with the weather...

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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Just thought would post these for today's usage for people wondering about battery life... Although I got much better battery on 4.2.1, which was upto 5.5+ hours... This is by too bad either...

This included...

Music: 15 mins

Vdo: 20 mins

Gaming: 20 mins

Calls: 10 mins

Internet calls: 40mins

Tapatalk, Browsing, BBC, twitter, whatsapp, viber throughout the day...

Oh and i did a restart in between once which does drop the battery a bit so...

All in all I think its plenty for a full day...

This is using cm10.1 with stock kernel... No under clocking and no undervolting...

Should do better with franko and some under volt as people have mentioned...

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[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
I'm selling my nexus 4. Bought from play store with all invoices available xD for those who wanna buy xD
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
I've been good, mate. How about you? :)

Accuweather sometimes gives me inaccurate weather information. It gives me the weather for rain occurring in some other part of Lahore whereas it isn't raining where I live. That becomes irksome.

How much are you selling it for? I've got two interested buyers.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
PM me ur offer.
[Nexus 4 General] rubiconjp:
Hi, my friend's mother is in critical condition in Karachi and she needs to go there ASAP. She is using the Nexus 4 and needs a micro SIM card once she lands in Karachi. She has many questions since she was out of the country for over 20 years. She needs internet access on her phone, wall charger. Can you guys recommend the best wireless carrier for her to get SIM card? Is that available at the airport?
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Um depends upon the location... But I hear telenor is good Internet wise. Though all suck cause pakistan is still stuck on 2g networks. ! All carriers offer micro Sims. Secondly does she have her NIC or NICOP? she'll need it to get the sim and register it. She'll need to go to the franchise for the sim. Security issues can only get Sims from offices or franchises of the cellular service provider.

Plenty of them out in the city... Though I'd suggest her to take a sim from a relative usually everyone has 2 or 3 connections. It's much more hassle free or tell them to get a new micro sim on their name for her and give it to her.
[Nexus 4 General] rubiconjp:
She has a US passport though, so an NIC is still required to get a SIM there for her N4? Ouch that 2G sucks!

Thanks for your help.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Or ask someone from your relatives to buy you a Sim card.

Telenor's signals don't penetrate buildings, but service wise, they're probably the best in terms of quality, cost effectiveness and features. Mobilink comes second.

Ufone's GPRS doesn't work. Warid is a bit more costly, but YMMV. I can say this cause I've used all three lately, and would stick to mobilink cause of the signal advantage, but Telenor cause of the service quality advantage.
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Yeah ask a relative to get it for her.

Yeah you need an nic to get a sim.. We had problems of unregistered sims being used in illegal activities.

Oh yeah I forgot.. Don't go for telenor cause they are upgrading network so that'll take a year they are getting ready for 3g. Currently won't get good service call drops etc..

Mobilink works my brother and mum use it in pakistan
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Hey, guys! Long time. :p

Does the Galaxy Note 2 come with an NFC built in to the battery?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I think its in the back cover... These 2 small metal points on it... They connect to the chip...

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[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Yeah, thanks! I figured it out when someone mentioned that in the Note 2 forum. The back cover of the Note 2 had been changed (to the flip cover) so I couldn't connect my S3 to the Note 2! It was frustrating me so much! I'm glad that I got it to work! Phew! :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I'm yet to use the NFC... Not used it a single time yet... And not sure if I ever will anytime soon... Lol

But now that you mention it... Do you know to what extent you can transfer things via NFC or android beam... I know webpages and pics or vdos... How about apk or larger files... Does that work too... And how long does it take...??

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[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
It goes over Bluetooth nfc is just used to make a connection so depends upon the file size and Bluetooth version. Yaar yahan pe most advertisements n competitions qr code k elawa nfc use hota hai in malls baki used it to send contacts... Nfc common hone doh pehle
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
To send large files, download Super beam on both devices (get it via the Play store).

OK. I'm going to purchase the NR soon...since the X Phone is rumored to not come out anytime soon, and people say that the Snapdragon S600 isn't a whole lot faster than S4 Pro anyway (the only difference? Maximum clock speed!)

Snapdragon S800 is the one to look out for.

Oh, and its officially available in Pakistan with Bright ex's warranty. Price is around 47 or 48k (my Urdu is horrible so I don't quite recall the prices in Urdu, but one or two spoke the price in English).

Mon Urdu est tres mal! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Interesting app... Tho it says it doesn't work too well with custom ROMs... So don't know if it will work for me... Will give it a try tho...

I've actually noticed since I got my N4 my WiFi hotspot tethering no longer works... Not sure if its due to the ****ty network or what... But it worked perfectly fine on my S2 before on CM...

And good you finally made your decision... The N4 is def a great phone... Just remember to do one thing... As soon as you get the phone, flash it again with Stock 4.2.2... It apparently does improve battery life... Gives about an hour more screen on time... I had done it with my last device without realizing it and used to get great battery... On the current device it was noticeably less battery... Then read in this thread about it... Just flashed stock and put on a custom ROM again... Its the first charge and I'm already getting 30mins more usage out my phone than before...

As you can see from the screenshots, the battery stats started being measured from 89% rather than 100%... And I still have 14% battery left... And past 4 hours of screen on time... With the extra 25% of undocumented battery, am pretty sure can get 5+ hours SOT like my previous phone now...

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[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
On the Galaxy S3 and Note 2, things are transferred over wifi. It's wicked fast! I love it. Bluetooth is old hat! :p

By the way, what should one check if one is getting a new Nexus 4? I heard that the Nexus 4 has multiple problems. What should I definitely check for?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well the main thing is the earpiece Buzz and the screen for light bleed and yellow blotches... Apart from that they are minor things which usually not there...

Even the buzz is something you really can't do anything about... I've yet to come across a set that doesn't have it... So pretty much just have to check the screen...

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[Nexus 4 General] rezapatel:
Hmm interesting. I'm on an S3 and considering moving to Nexus 4 but hearing the issues with Nexus 4, I feel I might be making a mistake. Anyone who moved from an S3 and can share their experience over which if the two they like more? Additionally, is this buzzing sound a major hindrance or hardly noticeable?

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
At first hsn price was way too high but now their price is reasonable.. I got 16gb version from US and i had to pay 36k for that. at that time hsn was selling it at 49k...now hsn dropped the price and selling it at 41.5 which isn't a bad deal.if hsn price was like 50k plus.. I would have gone for US option...but if there is a price difference of 3 or 4k then why would one wait for someone to send the mobile from outside Pakistan. Why not just order and get the mobile in a day or two from hsn,cellmart,shophive ot whatever
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
The buzzing really isn't a hindrance unless you have sensitive hearing... I do... While 99% of the people who have listened couldn't hear it on my phone, I can hear its there... But... I've gotten used to it to the extent I don't notice it anymore... Only sometimes when on the phone and the room is pin drop silent then I can notice... Otherwise I'm pretty much content with it...

I won't be able to say if its "better" than the s3... But it is no doubt a great phone... Each has their plus points...

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[Nexus 4 General] Punkid:
do you guys feel that the touchscreen sensitivity is bad on the Nexus 4?

and should i buy it from Pakistan or get it from US? family member is going abroad, can ask them to buy it and bring it back for me...
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
I was on an s3 and moved over to nexus and everyday I regret for not making the move earlier. Love every bit of it and personally I like the display better than s3.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Absolutely not... Sensitivity is excellent... As long as the colours are fine the screen is great... Tho I prefer the Amoled Blacks... And higher contrast... But the plus point in IPS is , you can use any colour wallpapers or anything and the battery drain is equal... While on the amoleds the blacks save power...

Personally I would get it from the US... That way I know I'm getting the latest revision... Also the new ones have some design modifications including some "nipples" and a smaller camera hole :P

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[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
I see what you did there. :D
[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Has anyone bought a case/cover for their nexus 4? If yes, then where did you get it? Anybody know where to get a case/cover in Lahore
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Someone here had said they were supposed to arrive in Hafeez center a few weeks back... Think it was "Naveed"... But he never confirmed it... I had to get mine from the US...

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[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Went to hafeez center about 2 weeks ago, couldn't even find a screen protector for it. :(

Will check this weekend, hopefully I'll find something.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Hmmm... I think I had seen some people selling screen protectors on olx or something... I sold my extra set already...

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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Just thought would post this as battery progress after doing the stock flash and back to a ROM... As you can see I'm on 50% battery... And so far a SOT of 2h 55min...

The stock flash has made a HUGE difference...

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[Nexus 4 General] Punkid:
hmm yeah i know about the design modifications...

thanks. i'd prefer the HTC One or Xperia Z , but theyre expensive :P
[Nexus 4 General] smjunaid:
I have imported a few screen protectors for nexus 4. Can ship it to u for rs 500. Extremely high quality anti glare and anti fingre print. . M from Peshawar. Contact me on 03369058955
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Welcome to me! I finally got my baby (err... that's "phone", for the rest of you!) :D
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Congrats ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Ahh... Welcome to the treachery of LG :)

Remember to do a stock flash right now before you start filling the SD... Its a pain to do it later...

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[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
Why do you recommend a stock flash? I didn't do it :(
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
It improves battery life... The theory behind it is when its flashed in the production line of mass flashing, it tends to not be as good a flash as when using a .img file that you can flash yourself separately... I've tried it myself and my battery life improved by around 1hour screen on Time... Which would probably mean about an extra 8-10hours standby time...

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[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Thanks for the tip. I know what you mean, and I've read the same advice for the GNexus. Even after an OTA, some recommend a full flash.

But to make things easier, you can flash everything except userdata if you want to retain your SD contents and phone config and apps etc - you will, OTOH, lose root access (cured by a simple flash!)

I had 4.2 on it when the shopkeeper turned it on. I asked him to turn it on, and while we were trying other things (cases, Sim card etc), the 4.2.2 update was downloading...so by the time I left the shop, I had the OTA ready to be flashed...another win!

The GNexus was a good phone...unfortunately, I had to sell it off cause...let's say, its life support system wasn't functioning well and the hospital ran out of alternatives to cure them...so it was euthanized...

This phone's too wide, doncha think?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I'm pretty sure on the N4 when you flash stock it formats SD contents as well by default... A security related thing... Not sure how it was on the GNex... Don't think I saw anywhere being able to flash stock while retaining SD contents... Even when unlocking the boot loader it formats everything... For security reasons again...

As for width... If you've used the Note... Then no it doesn't feel wide at all :P

But you mentioned you were checking out cases etc at the phone shop... Have official N4 accessories hit the market...??

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[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Just arrived from Hafeez centre, bought front and back protectors along with a silicon case. :)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Nice... How much did it cost... And how's the quality...? Any branded stuff...?

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[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Dunno if they're official, but one casing for the phone was like a pouch that you could open to see the screen... Like the Note 2's. It said specifically on the packaging that its for the N4...could be a third party vendor. Didn't quite want that pouch so I opted for a plain, basic pouch where I could instead slide my phone in and out.

I frankly didn't quite like the Note cause of the width. The note 2 was better, but still too wide. This is narrower but still wider than the GNexus. It'll take me time to get used to this width. :)

As for the screen protector...has anyone put them on? The back protector came with the phone, already applied, but the front ones aren't available in the market which have gaps for the proximity sensor... You have to do a dirty job yourself by punching in the protector so that you van place and receive calls properly.

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As for flashing...well, IIRC, the Nexus line has a zip file to be flashed. In each zip file, there's a boot image, a recovery image, user data, system, and boot loader. Do all of them except for the user data through fast boot, and you should be good to go!

User data basically wipes the partition. Don't flash it --> the phone won't wipe it!

What I worried the most were the issues people were facing (a low quality display, buzzing in the earpiece, bad camera, touch sensors on the IPS display visible etc etc). So far, I can hear a little tingling sound from the earpiece and it doesn't bother me since I've heard it from other electronics before, and you need to be in a quiet room to hear it. Besides, it doesn't disturb my calls so i have NO PROBLEMO!

I can see the touch sensors as well...but you need to make an effort, turn off the screen, and angle the phone in a specific way. And even though I haven't seen it on any other device in recent memory, I honestly can't be bothered with it with this device since I have to focus hard to see the issue.

Touch wood!
[Nexus 4 General] fadiiik:
Which company? And only front?
[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Unfortunately no branded stuff. :(

The screen protectors are of good quality, has cutouts for the proximity sensors and the front camera.And the case (looks more like a diztronic TPU case) just adds adequate protection, having perfect cutouts for the volume and power buttons.

Total price: Rs 500

Edit: Oh forgot to mention that the back protector is actually a matte screen protector that you mostly see on iphones.
[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
Shipping to Pakistan

if you are interested in buying some branded stuff .

they ship to pakistan
[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
Can you upload a picture of your phone with the cover please?
[Nexus 4 General] fadiiik:
Yes, please..!
[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Here you go (plz ignore the smudges, dust specks etc) :

http://imgur.com/a/cRYYY
[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
Hmm. I found a screen protector (matte finish) and flip case in Singapore plaza in Rawalpindi. It gives a good feel overall and nice protection. Has cutouts for volume/power buttons too. Only drawback in the protector that I didn't notice was that there was no cutout for the proximity sensor :/
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
The protector that I have on my phone was manually cut out to make way for the proximity and light sensors.

It doesn't look as tish tosh, but it does the job - of saving the screen.

From dust.

And that's what's more important.

Sent from my upgraded mini tractor.
[Nexus 4 General] EnDSK:
EDIT: Nevermind :D
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Help with what...?

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Weren't you trying to sell your nexus...??
[Nexus 4 General] xateeq:
Quick question, does that silicon cover pulls ur pocket with it when u get it out of ur pocket ?

I hate that ****.
[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
Nope. Didn't experience any annoyance or problems since the day I bought it.
[Nexus 4 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Selling, trading and exchanging devices or any item will no longer be permitted in any forum or via Private Messages.

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[Nexus 4 General] xateeq:
People of Rawalpindi/Islamabad Nexus4 silicon cover (grate quality) are available at singapoor plaza for Rs.300.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
So i have got Nexus 4 too. Changed from galaxy S3. :D
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
welcome to the club :good:
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Another one bites the dust... :)

Be sure to reflash stock before you start hardcore usage...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Reflash stock? I have not rooted my phone, it is on stock rom.