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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I couldnt agree more... but those of you who want some more proof of what im saying... you can check out this other thread where i was pointing out these issues... Beloved HomeShopping MADE AN XDA ACCOUNT just to respond to my messages... then RAN AWAY after reading my responses because they had nothing to say...

Note they also edited their post later on when i already had written a response to some stupid things they said....

This was in the S2 thread in pakisan link is given... from pages 34-37... it was a discussion between normal xda members when hsn stepped in on page 37... posted one comment... then never came back again... so if you want a good laugh then feel free to read through... or if you just want to read what they had to say and the response which left them speechless... skip to page 37...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1550088&page=34

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Anyway... back on topic... the person who was trying to order from canada... i tried to look into that route as well... and it seems that its still totally sold out in canada with no preordering available there like in the US...

unfortunately the shipping time in the US which was 4-5 weeks has now been increased to 6-7 weeks... im thnking i might need to buy a temporary phone and use it for 2 months till the nexus prices come down... or become easily available in the US... probably will grab a note2... tho the size is killing me :S

One strange thing tho is... those who ordered on the 27th of nov when sales opened a second time... apparently their phones have been shipped, even before those who ordered on the 13th and were put on backorder :S

very strange that is... google really seems to be effing up bigtime... causing even more risk to any of us wanting tto place an order if someone is leaving for pakistan to bring with since its such a big gamble if it will arrive on time...
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Thanks. I'll make sure I don't opt for HSN next time then. I know how sucky their warranty is... Might as well buy it off the market and get a proper warranty.

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[Nexus 4 General] hassi4042:
Some one with there relative abroad will have a chance to get N4.

other wise in Pakistan we have to wait for 2 3 months :(. Because this is PAKISTAN PAKISTAN :@ :@

LG market in Pakistan is as cheap as China mobiles.

if LG release Nexus4 officially in Pakistan, surely they will squeeze juice out of there Nexus4 financially. because we can not get it from any other sources. they will play like a monopolist this time.

nd btw any one know will and when LG release nexus 4 officially in Pakistan?

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all right so i just searched the web and found out that LG will release Nexus 4 on 25th December in Asia, Lets hope Pakistan is still present in thier Asian Map :D
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Your forgetting that the ONLY place you can get the subsidized price on the Nexus 4 is directly from the Play Store which does NOT support Pakistan and wont any time soon... India will get support long before us and they still havnt gotten it...

Having said that when/IF LG does realease the phone in pakistan, which it wont due to them withdrawing their mobiles from the pakistani market due to terrible sales a couple of years back, LG will still sell them at their normal price of $500... which is still 50k...

So just as some advice... dont hold your breath expecting to get the official launch here of the N4 and at the 350 price... thats ONLY via playstore... which isnt coming here unfortunately...
[Nexus 4 General] nexicon:
Have you guys tried out eBay? It might save you a little bit compared to the stores you guys are referring to. Try it out
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
eBay? Where people are selling the Nexus 4 from between $600- $1,000? No, thanks! ;)

By the way, how many of you actually have a Nexus 4? Someone felt the need to create a thread for Pakistan and, yet, I don't see any of you with the phone! :D Personally, I just came here to check on how the Nexus 4 was shaping out to be. I heard there were numerous problems, unfortunately! :(

Well, whoever gets one, best of luck with it! I'll enjoy my current phone. 16GB isn't enough for my needs.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
I guess none or very few..There is a thread at pakgamers..http://www.pakgamers.com/forums/f139/whos-got-new-nexus-4-a-151394/

You can check it out.Only one guy came up with some Pics of His N4..

That guy was living in Canada.So i hvnt heard of anyone living here got it yet

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HSN didnt even reply Lol..:p
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
What numerous problems are you talking about...?? The only issues being raised are the lack of LTE which is useless in pakistan anyway... 3g ke laalay paray huay LTE to chore do... the second issue is the back glass tends to shatter easily IF DROPPED... i think its fair to say any screen shatters easily with a drop... im quite surprised to see so many s3's being sold with cracked screens... barely ever saw a s2 with a cracked screen...

Anyway apart from these 2 issues plz do share which "numerous problems" your referring to... apart from software glitches like the december bug which was fixed in 4.2.1...
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Lol..Talk about LTE when Nexus 6 or 7 would show up..Till then forget about LTE in Pakistan :D
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
48K?!

Wow you becharay, that sucks! Doesn't play ship to PK?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
No..There are only 7 countries..Talking about N4,so exclude Japan from it though..

We cant get it through Play.Have to pay this price or else no N4 for us
[Nexus 4 General] nexicon:
Honest question guys, does Pakistan finally have 3g now? And is it good? I left in 09 so didn't even witness the beginning of smartphones there.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
No 3g yet... The cellular companies have tried to acquire it many times but due to the govt imposing extremely high charges to license it and use it, its probably not gonna happen... tho have been multiple attempts to do so so cant really blame the service providers... can blame a special someone else :P

having said that iv heard that they may skip 3g altogether and go o 4g... lets see...
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Come on. Don't be so naive. I'll point to one article talking about the numerous problems with Jellybean 4.2. Here you go:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...major-issues-plaguing-googles-newest-release/

That's related to the software side of things. Now, let's take a look at the hardware flaws.

1) Screen sensitivity issues: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/11/30/nexus-4-revisited-a-cautionary-tale/

2) Signal degradation: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2024950

3) Ear speaker issues: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2024226

4) Similar issue to point number three above; http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2023319

5) Yellow screen tint issue: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1990276

One cannot infer the tone of another person through words alone so I don't know whether you were genuinely interested in finding the flaws or you were trying to get me riled up. Anyhow, I've listed some stuff for the rest of the guys. Do let me know what your tone was like so that I can answer appropriately.

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I would also suggest taking a look at this thread over here about the Nexus 4 throttling issues:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2020612
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Its funny you yourself would write you cant infer ones tone according to written words, yet your getting all hot and bothered... I was actually genuinely asking as i hadnt come across any major issues apart from the ones i mentioned... seems the few days i wasnt able to come online alot of stuff happened regarding the N4 which i missed out on...

Anyway... thanks for the links... do seem to be some issues... maybe a blessing in disguise to wait a bit to see if there are any official remarks on it and if they can be fixed... may need to look at some other phone again...

Tho... im most reviews it was said that the s3 is better in majority aspects than the N4... but the only reason why the N4 would win at the end is due to the pricing... having said that... if the N4 here costs 49... and the s3 is 45... then is it not a better idea to just go for a s3... despite its hideous looks...??
[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
@drunkfux..

Depends on what you want with your smartphn..keep in mind we all being here indentifies that we all like screwin around with our phn a bit..in my case alot..s3 is a good phn but hey after 3 months of useage..the constant ui lag gets the better of u..the phn lags..period..n4 doesnt..u can live with a warmer screen..little low quality photos(u wanna be a photographer get a fringin dslr)..throtling issues and all these minor bugs...but how long can u live with stutter every ****in where u touch..ill say get a n4 and dont look bak..besides as i mentioned..we all like tweakin our baby to our palettes..s3 is simply crap when it comes to dev support..most have moved away and all those left are mostly rom modders..now theres a diff between a chef and a dev..s3's got chefs..dev's...well not many remain..n4 is a nexus device..a welll documented device..documented in terms of source codes and all that bling bling..n mostly its future.proof..get a nexus n ull prolly see it getting android 6 or perhaps 7..get a s3 and i doubt ull move onwards 4.2 which even then i sammy terms will be alot...n hey did i mention that s3 is plagued by bad memory managemnt..tat it takes 4 secs to open phn app and msg app..that constantly ur back ground apps are shut down..all in all n4 provides a better user xperience mate..make the smarter choice...dont go for sammy..ever!
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
True I have 32gb of space but all of my music is on google music. Pictures/videos get backed up on g+ if not then I've got box ka 50gb ka account. And 8gb on Dropbox. I've barely used 5gb on my phone most of the memory is used by rom zips I've kept on the phone to flash. :P

It's all down to personal preference. Like mine is I'm waiting for a phone to replace the need for a point and shoot camera. I hear Sony is coming up with a pureview competitor this year probably July with a s800 under the hood! :D either way it's always best to wait till November at that time you have all the top phones out make your decision on your personal preference.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Exactly... But problem will be come November, again it will be wait till march and see all the new phones then make your decision... A vicious cycle... LoL

Anyway how did you get Google music to work here...?? I've been trying VPN clients and what not but the whole "this isn't available in your country" is really annoying.

I've also been trying to redeem some Play Gift Cards, but no matter what I try it still somehow detects im in Pakistan I guess, and I'm not all that computer literate to know all that super IP address changing stuff... :-/

I was also told by a Google rep that adding my credit card will help them decide my region, and I added a US card, still it says I can't redeem or use certain apps here...

Any help...??

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[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Well I got the Google play account at the start when it didn't require a credit card verification. And the credit card should work. Use tunnel bear. Set it to us and then try Google music.

Though the problem now is google has started scan and match. So yeah unless you are in a place where google music is allowed or on a vpn. The songs won't play. You'll have to upload them manually one by one by clicking upload correct version on the site.

Ahahahaha at cycle yaar tech gets old fast we know that first it was pc with graphic card ya processor purana hogaya dammit can't run the game! I remember making a pc specifically to run doom 3 and half life 2 a year later new games.. Great won't run at max! November is just the this year ki flagships ka time. After that its just next year. I've made up my mind never to get a cell before November lol.
[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
Lol I also have 25 gb on Dropbox .but can you tell how can I have 32 gb OFFLINE storage on Nexus 4 no pun intended

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[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Yaar mera signature par lo xperia s ki baat kara tha nexus 4 is 2000 AED over here!! So won't but it till I come to pk.
[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
I was being sarcastic :D

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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
So tunnel bear kinda sucks... I tried it... Firstly its limited data... Secondly it didn't really perform as well as Hotspot Sheild unfortunately... Thanks for the suggestion Tho... Problem still not solved tho.

The US credit card I added is working... So charging is not the problem... Its getting to redeem the play gift card that's the problem... :-/

Only had to buy one app actually... Power amp... By far the best music app on android...

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[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
It isnt just 299$..total comes out to be around 330$ with tax & shipment included.It can go upto 350$ as well depending on the state you live in.Convert 330$ it & you'll get Pkr 33,400Rs....The same 8GB price is around 37k at cellmart..which isnt bad at all..

Now get a device from USA at 330$..Then send it back if it turns out to be bad..After that make the estimate of sending the device back & all that.In the end you'll realize that the 40k price of HSN with a 1 year warranty is a decent deal..
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Let's not consider a HSN warranty a real warranty... Because it's not... A Brightex one on the other hand which is apparently available on the N4 is a real warranty... Which will probably just be a few thousand more for 8gb... But yes in the long run getting it from here is pretty much the same in the long run...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Why is that? Why there warranty is not real? I have never purchased from them, that is why asking it.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well this has been discussed quite a few times in all these Pakistan threads , even this one... If you go back about 15 -20 pages maybe...

But basically they arnt the most reliable people... Have become infamous for selling slightly used repackaged phones while saying new or changing out original accessories and not honouring their warranty saying its user error... You can find lots of user experiences here on xda even... Myself included...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Oh okay. Actually i have read mixed reviews about them, some say they are good while others say they aren't. I read someone saying they replaced his friend's faulty phone.

But anyway i was looking for some authentic dealers, so that whenever i want to change/buy a new phone, i can get it from them. U know it is quite hard to find honest people.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Yea... Unfortunately our "Islamic" republic is much worse when it comes to these things as opposed to the "infedel" republics :P

I have my shop guys who I've been using for years... Luckily they will tell me straight up what the deal is since I'm a very regular customer and they know I tend to know a lot more than them ;)

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
True!

Anyway do u purchase phones from hafeez center?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I believe Hafeez center is in Lahore, so no... as im in karachi ...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Okay. And yeah its in Lahore. I thought u were from Lahore. :D
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Hafeez Center? Don't. Those guys con you like there's no tomorrow.

I'd avoid buying it from an unknown dealer, especially in Hafeez Center. Singapore Plaza (in Saddar, Rwp) has a better reputation!
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Cant go to rwp just to buy a phone :P :P
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
No need... Make Aeoveu go for you ;)

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[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
****OT****

Can anyone tell me who's official distributor of Sony Mobile in Pakistan?

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[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
No one.. Sony mobile and I think mobile zone or tele tec or united Mobile have a case in court. Warna you'd find Sony mobiles in Sony centers!

Something to do with stock ordered and being canceled by Sony Ericsson cause it was becoming Sony Mobile. Something like that. Warna Centuras mein Khul rahi thi dukan.

You can get them online that's about it. Or order from bahar.
[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
I emailed Sony Support here's their reply
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
In other words, no official Sony warranty and repair, only 3rd party repairs from the sales shop you bought the phone from.

Oh well... I don't think their electronics require repair anyway. I've personally never seen a Sony product be sent for repair - phone or otherwise.
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
They do..... After a decade or so :P Sony tv.!

Oh but on a serious note you do need to look out for the products since when I got my Xperia S it had yellow tint and Sony was offering free replacement. I don't think you can get it from a third party.
[Nexus 4 General] farhan.syed:
covers, bumpers, protectors

i need nexus 4 covers bumpers and protectors. please help me out here. am from lahore btw

thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Alright guys. If I were to buy the N4, should I get it from the market or Shop hive?

I live in Rawalpindi, fwiw.
[Nexus 4 General] Raza Qadri:
I think market is a better option

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[Nexus 4 General] PotatoEngine4:
I'm thinking of buying the "a jays one + earphones", does anybody know where in Pakistan I can get them ?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Yea I think you should get it from the market as well... At least that way you can see it before purchasing...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
@Drunkfu, how is ur nexus 4 going on? How long have u been using it? I think u upgraded from SGS3, what wud u say is N4 a better phone in ur opinion?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Its going pretty good actually... I wouldn't say I'm 100% satisfied with it because of my treacherous RMA process... Would have rather this phone been by a company with better quality control...

But it turns out that majority of the issues I've been having were all software related problems which are slowly being ironed out... Except the buzzing ofcourse... But its something you just need to adjust to... Which I pretty much have...

And no I didn't upgrade from a s3... I upgraded from a s2... But did use a s3 a bit and do like this better only because of the ram being 2gb... Multitasking is a breeze...

I've always had issues with android closing something to free up ram, but with this... I can have something downloading via browser with 10 other apps running and playing a resource hungry game like Real Racing 3 without any problems or anything being shut down... Which was always a problem with 1gb ram... Even toggling back and forth and returning to the game later since it was never closed... Very good that way...

Tho personally I feel nothing beats a SAmoled screen... IPS just doesn't compare for me... Even tho its beautiful... But I prefer black blacks and saturated colors... Tho many would disagree...

Another plus point being the dozens of mods for this... And cm10.1 working without any hitch... Its great... Not having to wait for everything to get figured out like on a Sammy phone...

Battery life is also pretty good... Lasts a full day easily... Unless I do some intense gaming... Camera also not as bad as most reviews said... Not as good as Samsung... But not bad at all...

So all In all I would say its worth the Google play store price... But if its costing as much as a s3... Probably the Samsung is the better option...

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
As per cellmart & homeSopping, there is only 2K difference in price.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Nexus 4 is awesome in every way.it's almost a week that i got it . Just got a little complaints about the battery. Other than that it's a great device..
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Got it from Pakistan? For how much did u get it?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
No..From US..

Rs.36,500 total cost
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
16 GB?
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Yeah..16GB :)
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
Battery

try franco kernel... the battery life would improve..
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Thanks mate. But I have brought galaxy S3 instead of nexus 4. Both r great phones, but for me SGS3 is better. So far loving it :D
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Franco kernel did improve the battery from the sfock. But i want more :D
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Oh you got rid of the One S...?? That was fast... LoL

But I agree I think the s3 has alot of advantages I would love to have... If only they opened source........

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[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
No I still have one S. Wanted to sale it, but got low price offers so thought not to sale it. Or I ll try it on olx.

And yeah changed phone quite fast this time, but now i ll keep this awesome phone for at least an year or may be more than that.

GS3 has some great software features, like multi tasking, keeping the screen awake until u r looking at it and many others. At least for me this phone is much better, coz I have never rooted my phone and I not going to do it. :D.

Nexus 4 is a great device as well, but since one of its main advantages over S3 is the dev support (read in reviews and forums), but since rooting is not for me :P, so not a big advantage for me.

But anyway I m very happy with this great phone. Loving it :D got it in white color with 16gig :D
[Nexus 4 General] dapsANDpoundz:
Interesting
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
What? Me? :P
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
battery

Did you try under-volting and changing the governor... That would help you a bit..

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everyone has their own preferences.. personally I used s3 for 6 months, but I was sick of delays in getting the updates from S3 and the bloatwares.. even though I had installed CM on it and removed on the bloatwares.. but I wanted a pure vanilla Android experience.. which I am getting in nexus 4 and loving it.. now let's see how much I can sell the s3 off for..
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
U r right. Agree with u.

As I said both r great devices, at the end it comes to ur personal choice.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well then I completely agree, there is no point of a Nexus device if your not going to fool around with the software... If your not a fan of the most basic root process even then definitely the s3 is more accustomed to your needs and a better package... Tho I would have suggested wait for one month and get the s4 instead... It would have a much longer lifespan in terms of hardware... And the amount you just spent on your s3... Plus the amount you should be able to sell your One S for should be equivalent to the price of the s4...

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[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
How to do undervolting?I am using PA rom & i see no Governor settings in it :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] fadiiik:
Covers and cases

Where to get nexsus 4 covers and cases in karachi? did anyone got anything from local market?
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
eBay Pakistan, whose service I guess is provided by HSN in Pakistan. Or try Olx Pakistan.
[Nexus 4 General] saleemakbani:
Did you install the franco kernel? Coz once you install the franco kernel then you install franco kernel updater from the play store.. you'll get it from there.. I have undervolted my franco using stock rom and getting aroudn 26+ hours with aroudn 3 hours of screen time..