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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Hahaha... dude this is a Pakistan thread, Not Indonesia... Pakistan is between India and Afghanistan incase your wondering...

And no we don't have a Regional Play store to make hardware orders online... tho we can buy apps...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Hahaha! My bad.

I've got dozens of tabs open to keep track if things and got confused between the two. I accidentally called an Australian English the other day, he wasn't too happy :)

Thanks for the info!
[Nexus 4 General] rixvi5:
Brother how can i get protectors for my nexus 4. Do you live in lahore? If yes then im interested in getting protectors.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Sorry lol...its just that I remember that I have to hit the thanks Hutton but when I begin typing, I kinda forget and remember that I'm holding a GNexus and have wet dreams about the Nexus 4... So I hope you understand my predicament ;)

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One more question: did you guys order from the Play Store directly, or have a relative or a friend send it to you?

I'm still confused if I should buy the phone, or wait for the X Phone... Cause if the X Phone turns out to be another Nexus (the Xoom tablet technically was, since it was updated by Google), it'll most likely have newer hardware (anyone follow Qualcomm's news at CES?) and I wouldn't want to have any regrets, especially if its priced economically.

And most importantly, I'd like a phone that can hold a signal well.

Yup, I'm officially OCD'd!

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[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
If you are going to wait then wait for the x phone 2! I hear it's going to be better than the X phone :P

It's technology it'll be surpassed in two months by something better. Go for a nexus you'll be sure to get updates and fast always!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Check your PM

I had a friend order it in canada then they sent it to me... tho I have heard people with credit cards of other countries could be used to place orders in other countries, but had to be shipped within that country who's play store the order is placed... as in billing address is different from shipping address...

As for the X phone... let's be honest... ever since google took over motorola we been hearing the next nexus will definately be a motorola... clearly not... and if you think google will release another nexus while the N4 is still selling like hotcakes... not gonna happen... at the end of the day a nexus is a nexus... if you don't care for the custom firmwares and timely updates then sure wait... I would say get the S4... sounds pretty crazy... and definately won't have the negatives the nexus has (ie, no expandable memory, **** camera)... but it will be shadowed by the crappy updates...

So its about what's more imp to you... I would definately say if I didn't think the s3 was Fugly, along with every bhangee in karachi seeming to already own one,topped by no exynos source code, I love samsung phones... loved my S1 and loved my S2 and love this ****ty Galaxy Q... but for me custom roms trump everything... but if it were would I go for a moto or a sammy... def a sammy... even tho I think the razr is a sex bomb of a phone and great performance...

And regrets are a part of life buddy... ain't lived unless you effed sh*t up... ;)

Couldn't agree more dude...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Too expensive in pakistan. Wait f0r galaxy s4, samsung has official service centers. home shopping will nevr cooperate with u on warrenty. I have bad experience puchasing goods from them. They even repack phone and sale it in a new price. I got htc one x and it has some pics on the phones taken by someone. When i ask them they didnt accept that its their fault. They said someone at ur home might have taken the pics. I got this note from samsjng and they responded me in every way. Even replaced the battery after 10 month use in half price.

Nexus 4 is really a good phone, if u really want it ask the LG stores if they are disributing it, if yes then only get it.
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
I really don't understand this. So, you're saying that they repackaged the phone, went through all the trouble, and forgot to delete data? Really? I keep hearing these baseless rumours of how HomeShopping repackages phones but there has not even been one substantial claim to back the theory.
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
If you really want this phone order online on any international website and not to home shopping. Homeshopping is not a good dealer. Thats all i am saying. They replace the accessories and thats a definite. Visit their store at zamzama its a small shop with a go down where they manipulate all the devices and wont let u enter and if u somehow manage to get in u will know and everytime there are customers there with issues and see there cold response and some basic quotes

"Even samsung dont give warrenty of battery"

" screen issue is accidental and is not covered"

" this is a software problem and as the phone is not officially released here we cant resolve this issue"

" sir u can find a new battery in the market (although its not because the phones they give are not available)"

They even repurchase the phones they sold and repack and redistribute. U can see they repurchase the phones and dont sell second hand phones.

I am actually bitten by them :)
[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
ive been a hsn customer for well over 3 years now..have bought many phns from them..but yes once i did get a phn which was repacked..they gave me a htc sensation which turned out to be s-off when i opened it..now i dun knw why but the first thing then in the shop i did was to go into the bootloader..where i saw that the phn was s-off...let me tell u this was when htc themselves were not unlocking the phone..and the dev unlock had just been out...so yeah cut short..hsn does repack..nothin against it as not once their phns have turned out to be dud..!so i can live with that!
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Hmmm... :confused:

Well, I suppose you guys are right! That means that HomeShopping is lying to everyone!

They offer a week's worth of usage, though. That's better than going to Hafeez Center and buying over-priced phones.

By the way, for those of you who don't know, I don't own a Nexus 4 (and I'm not planning on buying one). I just wanted to visit the Nexus 4 forums to see how the phone is going in Pakistan and what you guys are doing to import it. :p I've been recommending a Nexus 4 to all my friends who don't have an S3! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
But naveed when ur paying a full price and even more than the devicea actual price u deserve a packed box device, maybe u can live with it but not everyone.

N4 is costing u 55k= 550$ on HSN when its real price is just 350$.

Pay more and get less :(
[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
i feel u man..in my case i wud have s-offed the phn wither ways..so in a way hsn saved ma a hassle..but n4's s3's or with any other phn..these boys cost big bucks..and these hiccups like repacking can be a bit off putting to say the least..i can only recommend ppl to do a bit of research of wats included in the box and all that before getting the phn from anybody..!

@ deadsol

dude i just sold my s3 for this baby n probably the best decision i made...never gonna go back to samsung ever..!
[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
seriously....khushboo piece..hahahaha...lolx..sadar and khushboo takes me in all kinda diff directions..if u knw wat i mean :P...!
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Now i just go for gadgets thats are originally distributed in Pak. Those devices that are not i get them from middle east, whenever i visit there or when my parents are visiting me.

I dont trust these online warrenties and BS. These things only work when both sellers and customers have good moral values. Which unfortunately we dont have including me.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Exaxtly... if your paying a premium it should atleast be new... doesnt matter who will unlock it etc etc... it should be brand spanking new if thats what your being told... if its used then just say it...

Nope... no idea what you mean... plz explain :P

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
m pretty sure xda is pg 13...! :P
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Hmmmmmmm... just makes me wonder what you go to Saddar and smell :P lol

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[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
ok ok i guess i have to share my gift of knowledge with you guys :P...by khushboo i seriously dont mean smell...! :P...!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Haha... and here you had me thinking your going and sniffing Gonnorrhea infested "kitties"... lol

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[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Dude smelling gonorrhea is still acceptable but smelling candida albicans infected is really really awesome ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
What on Earth are you people talking about?! lol. Disgusting! :p

Anyhow, DrunkFuX, calm down, dude! Haha. You write too much! :p I know that you're a passionate guy but ease up on that heavy punctuation! :D

Naveed, I really can't give up the camera of the S3. It's miles ahead of the Nexus 4's camera. Plus, I cannot take 4:3 pictures anymore. They look awful!
[Nexus 4 General] naveediftikhar:
I know but for me its a choice between a lagging interface and buttery smoothness..beside if someone like me would really be into photography hed jus buy a dslr..! Why waste 50ks for just a camera and a quadcore device which perhaps wud have been better off sold as a single core coz tats how much tat phn lags!
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
It doesn't lag any more with the latest firmware. Hehe. They really made it a lot smoother! It's unlike any other firmware before it! ;)

As to the point about the DSLR; well, there are times when you can't carry a DSLR with you and you need to take awesome shots (especially night shots for when my friends and I go out). The S3 has never failed me. It's stayed with my through midnight eat-outs, rooftop BBQs, dimly lit restaurants, etc. :D
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Haha... yea man I know I write a lot... but I gotta get my point across home nizzle...!!

And I agree with naveed here... tho even the s2's camera rapes the nexus4 camera... for me the longetivity was more imp... samsung really makes you cry with the updates... and with the source...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Well its the nature of people i still remember when galaxy s2 was released there was an article saying that there can never be a phone which can be as fast as s2. When s3 came people said the same thing. I am using my note and i dont want more smoothness than this.

Even if u make the keyboard fast as hell u cant make ur fingers faster. So always access a product in terms of productivity. All phone can do the same things and perform same functions with ease. Thats what matters. Yes when a time will come when apps are heavy enough that a phone cant support it. I think thats the right time to change it.

Plus i always have this thing in mind that google released this nexus at wrong time. S4 and motorola x are on their way. People who are getting this phone right now will feel cheated after a month. They should have reased it just after s3. Releasin. Lgs failed phone after 6 months is not a good idea.

Most people are deceived by its clean vanilla JB. But its a persons own choice. These are just my opinions.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Really? i guess it's all about the one who's using it. and i have used the both, N4's Cam takes very realistic shots. But most of the ppl in pakistan like the colorful pics with high contrast ratios no matter those look original or not. xD
[Nexus 4 General] munirnawab:
Any idea of when nexus 4 will be available in Pakistan ? I am waiting for the device but the prices people asking are way too high
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Munir,

Nexus 4 is available on play store with a delivery time of only 2-3 weeks. both 8 gb and 16gb variants. But u need to find any of ur relative/friend in US, UK, France or Canada. And in Pakistan it will be of high price because of a few factors. I ordered 2 16 gigs in November. and Sent the money to that guy in January. Google charged 349 each for two sets, 53 $ taxes and 13$ shipping. When the order was made dollar had the price 94 PKR and when i paid the western union charged 99.5 PKR so i had to pay almost 4.5k extra. 4k was charged by western union too. so the price is high.

I sold one for 48K and im using another one. i dont think anyone can sell sealed box N4 for 48K. lol.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well it doesn't matter what phone you get, within a few months something better WILL come... let's not forget that technically the nexus has more poowerful hardware than the s3 because its got TWICE the ram... which I would rather have a dualcore with 2gb ram rather than a quadcore with 1gb... because I'm big on multitasking... but again that's a personal preferance... I even tried looking for a i9305 if you know about it... the s3 with lte and a quadcore with 2gb ram... but here it was impossible to find... tho the i777 I think... the t-mobile s3 dualcore with 2gb ram is spreading in our market...

So I think its too subjective to say if they launched at the right time or not... nothing is the best for more than 4 months or so... but the uniqueness of the nexus, samsung can't beat...

But yes I agree, the right time to change a cellphone is when it can't keep up with the latest softwares... and considering the S2 and note are getting JB, it will be sufficient for atleast another 8-10 months... but most ppl change phones as a hobby... like myself... I don't "need" it... hell no... but its one thing I'm fine with spending on because its with me and used 24/7... my phone was even more powerful than my netbook for the longest and I didn't care... lol

So its just sensibility mixed with practicality... but absolutely correct, there is no need to upgrade from dualcores just yet...

I used both too hence I can say for sure the S2's camera was leagues ahead... and were not just talking in terms of colour... were talking in terms of clarity which I think is more important... I took some phenomenal shots of such minute things with the S2 which had intricate detail... which is still preserved while zooming in... while the N4... zoom in and the pics blur... even on simple shots...

So I'm not saying the N4 camera is bad... just saying not As Good As the S2... don't even think of comparing to the S3... The N4 does a decent job for on the go point and shoots which its meant for... but would have been great if it were better... atleast better than hardware more than a year old...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] munirnawab:
Thanks 4 the reply..

Can u guide me through the process of how to purchase nexus 4 through google play store ?

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Okay.. And how is the set and battery timing with wifi and cellular usage.???
[Nexus 4 General] rock7632:
Hi, anyone know where I can get screen protectors in Karachi?
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Well... The process is simple that if u have a friend in the countries i wrote u will ask him to order the handset and send him money via western union. Buying through google play is way too easy...

The set is good. Overall a nice phone. Excellect gaming performance.i have tried nfs most wanted and nova 3 and it runs them in an excellent way. The attached screenshot i hope, will help alot for u to understand the trend.

Battery lasts for a day for normal use. With wifi on and cellular usage. The thing making me frustrated is its delicate look. Im an engineer by profession and i have to handle it with immense care. Both glass backs means double tension. Im thinking to switch to galaxy note 2. Just because of its great battery time and glass back of nexus 4. Though i love it.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Here's a reply to the scattered points everywhere...

1. I don't think the camera's bad. There's a thread with pictures taken from the N4. Yes, AOSP's camera interface is basic but people generally say the camera's decent. Besides, digitally zooming any picture ruins it - I'd suggest you don't.

2. As for the X Phone - haha, I agree, tech's always changing (Moore's Law). Guess there's a price to pay for that. If the X Phone turns out to be in the Nexus league - like the Xoom was - with good hardware and software, I'll take that...unless its more expensive.

3. Something happened these recent months and I've seen a string of HSN criticisms... And it was before reading stories on this thread. Personally, I don't see what's special about HSN...they don't seem to have that panache. When I sent my device, it came back more buggy lol (random restarts). Flashing a specific custom kernel fixed it, but that's not how it should be anyway. They don't always reply promptly to their online support ticketing system. I don't really intend to buy from them again in the future. I don't have anything personal with them... but people and their experiences speak quite a bit. And software warranty on a phone only? Puhleez!

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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Noone in karachi has them as yet... I may be able to help get some... drop me a pm...

Jeevus, noone said the camera was bad... just not as good... relax people... :what: lol

And I was talking about zooming in on your pc of phone after the shot is already taken... not before... your absolutely correct the digital zoom destroys the pic...

On a side note I went to my local cellphone guy to grab some accessories... asked him if the N4 came yet... he said oh yea you didn't get yours yet did you... I said yea I did already but know some ppl who want it... how much is it... he says... 53k for the 8gb... I was like whaaaaa... did you say 53...???? For the 8gb...???? He's like yea why how much was your... I'm like 40k... for the 16gb... he's like whaaaaaaaaaa... lol

Douchebaggery at its best... :P

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Pakistani salesmen summed up in one sentence. ;)

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Oh, and have you guys seen how salesmen have this attitude problem these days? ONLY in Pakistan can you see this.

My friend bought headphones from some shop. He tried them and one of the ear pieces wasn't working. Also, they looked used; one of the cushions of the ear piece had come off. So, he went to return them. He and I went to the shop and some other guy was sitting there. We told him the problem and he looked helpful. He said that we could get it replaced for another model. It was the same price. He said that there were lots of options to choose from. We were happy.

Then, the regular sales guy walks in with his rotten attitude. He asked what the problem was. We told him and then he asked us who ripped the cushion off. We told him that it was already off and that's why we wanted to replace it. We asked what other headphones there were. He told us that there weren't any other models and that we would have to pay Rs. 50 extra for a replacement (which looked worse). It was a "take-it-or-leave-it" deal. What an arse!! Then, he proceeded to fix the cushion on the headphone and he put it back in the box and on the shelf.

These dirty thieving mongrels really deserve to have their shops closed so that they live in the streets like the dogs that they are.
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Simply HSN are doing fraud with customers. So if u go for an expensive device just dobt get it from them.
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
So, guys. An 8GB Nexus 4 for Rs. 45k from HomeShopping and a 16GB one for Rs. 50k. :)

Best prices in Pakistan right now.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Yeah... Because i ordered mine in december and because of dollar rate it has charged me 80k for two 16 gigs. Now if they're selling a rare device and running a business a margin of 10k is really not bad. Btw i was getting 48k for mine but didn't sell :p
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Is homeShopping.pk an authentic site to make online purchase? Because i never heard its name before coming to this thread.

And yeah i havent bought much online so dont know much about online buying sites.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well it is authentic per say... they will get you what you order... but they are known to cheat and screw around, cut corners etc... some have good experiences, some have bad... but yes they will def get you what you want...

If planning to get the N4 then the best option is still to get it via someone you know in the US...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Thanks mate!

Yeah thinking to get a new phone. Confused between lg 4x and N4. Xperia SL also looking fine specs wise.

HomeShopping selling N4 8GB for 45K. Is it over priced?

And secondly u mentioned that they cheat their customers sometimes, in what sense do they cheat? Do they give a used mobile or what?

And unfortunately dont have anyone in the US, so cant get it from there. I can only buy N4 from pak.
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Don't go for xperia sl now. My advice it'll only max get updated to 4.1. It's better to get a galaxy nexus if you aren't getting a nexus 4. At least you'll get updates.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
^^It is. Considering it's available in US for just under 35k PKR after taxes and shipping. However, there isn't any other option other then HSN. Infact iShopping is giving the 16GB above 70k, so you can imagine.

I knew someone selling in Karachi but u r in Lahore.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah u r right.

I had galaxy nexus in my mind as well, but it wud cost me 40K, same as LG 4X price. While galaxy nexus has dual core processor and lg 4x has quad core. So dont u think lg 4x wud b a better option.

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Wow.. Under 35K :D. And homeShopping and othr shops selling it for 45K (8GB).

If we dont have any relative thr, can we get it directly from the US?
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
^^ I am afraid, no :(
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Oh okay :(

Otherwise 35K for N4 wud have been an awesome deal!
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Considering the spex, it can't get better than this. But kya karain :(
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Haha true.

U tell me galaxy nexus OR lg 4x? Which one is better?
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
If u love updates, go for SGN. If u care less about updates, LG 4X is a better choice.

How much is it for anyway?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Both of same price as per homeShopping and cellMart.pk
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Seriously?

Then considering the spex sheet, go for LG one. However, keep in mind the resale value. Samsung > LG.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah both have same price.

Yep true abt the resale value, but still thinking which one to go for. Watching some reviews on utube :P

Lg has tegra quad core processor and SGN has dual core processor.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
SGN has TI-OMAP Processor which I feel lacks the power exynos provided back in 2011. Whereas Tegra one is much better than TI's.

Apart from that, if u love using your phone camera as PNS, its 5MP vs 8MP. And mind you SGN's camera is pretty notorious.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah saw its cam result, though i dont use cam much.

So, tegra is better than TI?

I have watched some reviews, some say SGN is better than 4X. Anyway i ll do some more research on it, then i ll decide which one to go for.

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In fact i have found a thread on xda about lg 4x vs SGN :P. Reading the user opinions there as well.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
^ lol.. good luck :)
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Thnx :P