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[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
I hear what you're saying, but no other phone runs 4.2 from Google does it? I'd wait till later this week when we have many rooted devices, custom ROMS/kernels and what not.

The software HTC shipped the One X running on was an unoptimized mess (which also had heat issues).

The people storming around shouting conclusive and saying the phone has hardware issues only serve to make people fearful at this stage where it is too early to be conclusive of any hardware issues. Software issues will be aplenty on a launch of new hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] Daemos:
But there is a problem if the performance in benchmarks does not add up to what the 'specs' say.

It's like building two identical computers, put one in a different case...one running windows vista and say one running windows 8...

If the hardware is identical, the benchmarks should be VERY similar, if not there is something wrong with the build, hardware, drivers, software etc...and it is not working to it's potential.
[Nexus 4 General] DammitCubs:
This is quite alarming. Agreed with everyone that something is wrong. That's a huge difference: 4984 vs 7628. This might potentially make me wait to see if this some kind of bug. I mean in all seriousness, if I have the same hardware I would like it to perform the same. Google won't admit any wrong doing here either....that's good for ya. Let's hope they see the issue and try to find a fix.

Ugh. What a way to start my day....
[Nexus 4 General] nic85:
new 3,4 kernel guys...give to google some times to fix that.
[Nexus 4 General] iluk3:
Well I just ordered one because I'm not really bothered by benchmarks. This is the first phone running on 4.2 and it's powerful enough as it is.

One thing I will point out is (from what I've seen) the N4 beats the Optimus G consistently in Geekbench 2 posting scores of over 2000. We need to ignore the browser benchmarks as chrome is not as well optimised as the old stock browser on Android.

We need to wait and see how the phone matures in time, I don't think there is a hardware issue here everyone is panicking over 2 phones that don't quite match each other...I know if my N4 goes wrong due to some unknown issue I know I can get a new one sent to me from Play so it's not really something that is going to bothering me.

Anyway, who buys their phone on benchmarks?! Are you benching it 24/7? No, so what's the need for you to see how a phone performs in tasks that you would never ever ask it to do in real world situations...
[Nexus 4 General] hohoXD1233:
Came across this site:

lwn.net/Articles/524631/rss

(Guess I can't post direct links for now)

Can anyone explain what this CPU isolation actually means and how it translates to actual performance and benchmark scores?
[Nexus 4 General] gogol:
Not the benchmark score itself, but the "battery life" ... N4 is worse compared to LG OG, 5 hours video run-down vs 8 hours.

That's what worries me ...
[Nexus 4 General] Nospin:
And we are still not at final software. It will be multiple OTAs before we are at final software.

So, there's that.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
I believe its a kernel problem. And also, why are you all comparing a jellybean ROM with a new kernel with an ICS one? That's not a really fair comparison in my eyes. That's just my opinion though

Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 4G
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
ips vs amoled :(

people hate on amoled but I'll take the battery life..
[Nexus 4 General] Dragooon123:
Doesn't the Optimus G have same screen as N4?
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
More of a fact than an opinion :good:
[Nexus 4 General] DammitCubs:
I thought Optimus G has a IPS screen. Same one in the N4
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
The battery life will get better with software updates. I am pretty sure about that. Remember the iPhone 4/4s also had battery problems and was fixed with a software update. HTC one x had **** battery life and now it is perfroming a lot better after quite a lot of updates. Nexus 4 might have ****ty battery life but I am sure it will get better.

As for benchmarks of n4 compared to optimus G, I also feel the software is to blame. Optimus G is still running on ics, which is 1year old software, where the n4 is running on software which less than 1month old. Give it some time it will settle, get updates, apps will also get updated with latest sdk and it will be an excellent phone. Plus if you root, you can get even more out of the phone for performance and battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
Yeah, and the GNex is AMOLED.

I take it back though from the relevance point.

I had been under the impression that AMOLED used less power than IPS, but it looks like I was wrong.
[Nexus 4 General] thenext1:
My current phone performs 200ms better in sunspider than this piece of crap (1617 vs 1878ms).

I know, I know, benchmarks aren't everything, but when you're also handing out two € 200 banknotes, you'd at least expect an improvement in every area.
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
Such a disappointment, I'm not gonna buy one anyways though cause only 16gb storage makes it useless for me, I was hoping for a surprise 32gb version but oh well.
[Nexus 4 General] iluk3:
The nexus is running jelly bean. The update for the GS3 from ICS to JB made it's video playback drop by an hour due to the accelerated video performance. When LG OG gets JB, we will see a drop in battery life in that dept. for sure
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
i said before update will not fix any thing :silly:

such a disappointing :(:(

i was waiting something like this : http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_s4_pro_benchmarked_crushes_older_chipsets-news-4563.php

my 1.5 years old s2 beat N4 in most of the tests :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] gideonMorrison:
Agreed. Unforgivable to be quite honest. People ASSUME everything will be fine, I find that naive. Also, how many units did Google have in stock, a grand total of 50 in each Playstore?
[Nexus 4 General] hippieschuh:
n4 doesnt have eco mode like optimus g. mystery solved. just wait for a battery rom
[Nexus 4 General] MadFerIt2011:
Guys,

The low benchmarks are because of Chrome, all of those "full benchmark" tests do browser metrics. That's why the Nexus 10 gets the same result, and GLBenchmark does fine.
[Nexus 4 General] :
What I'd love to know is why Geekbench seems to tell a different story in the benchmarks department, but either way I'm buying it and if my suspicions are right it'll be the fastest phone I've used. I rarely worry about numbers on a benchmark unless comparing supposed speed claims between ROMS. I don't know why it performs poorly but I trust Google's body of work so far and I expect there is a story behind it, my assumption is the new 3.4 kernel changes might be the cause, when Galaxy Nexus/Nexus 7 owners get 4.2 and post benchmarks it should shed some light on this, I'm not jumping to conclusions until I find out why, more evidence is required and I'm not going back to the S2 nightmare, F&*k Samsung
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
hmm no its not , there is real problem ether with bad cpu's , bad mother boards

my s2 @ 1.5 with chrome , with aosp browser i get 1090ms :D
[Nexus 4 General] Christian Troy:
What if the problem is all that glass and the lack of a proper air flow to chill the device?
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
hmm......... LG :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] :
Yahyoh can you post you Geekbench 2 scores here please, don't have my S2 anymore so can't right now
[Nexus 4 General] Nospin:
Benchmarks aren't everything because they mean nothing. It has zero bearing on real world use and performance.

Give me an hour and I could tweak a Nexus S to blow everything out of the water in benchmarks, and guess what? It will run like crap.
[Nexus 4 General] Hemlocke:
Yes, since most of what you view is not black (off), AMOLED is less efficient. The LCDs just work more efficiently for whites and bright colors.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
@1.6

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ok i know benchmark is not every thing but WTH Gnex get better scores in html - html5 - java rendering :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
So many negative assumptions going on here!

I can flash a new kernel on my galaxy nexus and pretty much halve a benchmark!

A chipset is a chipset is a chipset
[Nexus 4 General] CreepyDroid:
It would be interesting to see if the benchmarks of the gnex faced some drops after the 4.2 update. That would determine if the problem is the kernel or hardware fault.
[Nexus 4 General] dqniel:
Unless it overheats and throttles.
[Nexus 4 General] :
So @ 1.6GHz it manages 1411, then what the hell

Nexus 4 clocks 1975 sometimes 2000, better than pretty much any phone, aren't you the one that posted ^^^ this image Yahyoh
[Nexus 4 General] johnchad14:
Battery life definitely affected by 4.2 on gnex. I never benchmark mine but I seem to recall it affecting benchmarks negatively, except perhaps sun spider.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
2 cores < 4 cores :cyclops:

edit : A-15 beat any thing :p
[Nexus 4 General] wurzelsepp3:
I still don't think there is any throttling involved in any of this benchmarks,

The Egypt HD offscreen score seems fine, no indication of throttling,why should it throttle in a simple browser Benchmark like Sunspider that only uses one core, it doesn't make any sense.

Someone should run Antutu or any other Benchmark with "Cool Tool" running to show the current clockspeed.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ds.cpuoverlay&feature=nav_result
[Nexus 4 General] Daemos:
GPU might not be throttling but the cpu could be.

There is an answer.
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Whats all this hype about thermal throttling? If you dont want it, disable it. It wont throttle in any day tasks. My i7 hexacore throttles in some Benchmarks aswell same as in crysis 2.
[Nexus 4 General] wurzelsepp3:
But throttling has only been confirmed in graphics tests so far.

Why has nobody run Quadrant in the freezer yet to clear this once and for all.

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Which makes it even more ridiculous that it performs worse than the Galaxy S2 in Sunspider, Google seriously needs to optimize chrome.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
lol same cpu get 620ms in sunspider with chromebook :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] haydonxda:
If the throttling on the i7 interferes with work or bothers you can correct your thermal issues. Improve your heatsink and processor cooling.

The only fix for the N4 so far has been to run it in the freezer.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
or put on it water cooling system or maybe nitrogen cooling :D:D
[Nexus 4 General] wurzelsepp3:
You can also downclock it or reduce the volatges (once there are customs kernels that allow to do this)
[Nexus 4 General] Christian Troy:
It'd be nice seen a benchmark with the device naked (without the back cover). I think it's the glass.
[Nexus 4 General] immunityx:
This is disapointing

And my stock tmo note 2 gets 2135 in geekbench
[Nexus 4 General] haydonxda:
But that's not going to help get maximum performance. It'll only help reduce throttling.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Then the LG Optimus G would be facing the same problems but it doesn't
[Nexus 4 General] Daemos:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review

anandtech's review...still shows thermal throttling and meh battery life...
[Nexus 4 General] Notorious544d:
Slightly off-topic but since the video recording frame-rate was also an issue for the pre-release 4.2, I came across this video.

I'm guessing the video frame-rate issues are fixed?

Here is a video comparing it to iPhone 5, Lumia 920 and Galaxy Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] Christian Troy:
Og is fully gg too? Didn't know. Anyway I'm disappointed... I was about to give my HTC one x to my mother and buy for me (to keep it at least two years) this n4.

I really hope they sort it out, I know that you can UV, under clock, etc. But it's no right IMHO. If I buy a muscle car I don't wanna limit it
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
For any modern Intel processor you can easily disable the thermal throttling in the bios. If not, there are ways of hijacking it, in Android its just one file or maybe more.
[Nexus 4 General] haydonxda:
Thermal throttling isn't some silly feature to just turn on and off. It's there for a very good reason, to prevent damage.
[Nexus 4 General] Cusa:
I don't understand why Google would put such a powerful CPU on a phone when it's unstable.
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
True but it may be too sensitive or working inefficiently in current software - Until fixed turning off may be a viable solution.
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Well, I know that, but for overclocking a CPU it isn't that good you know ;) I've turned mine off to oc my i7 to 4ghz and have no issues, never reaching more than 80°C for the cores, not even when running prime95. I'm just saying that this would be a temporarily fix for the issue, but anyone should be aware of the caution right.
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
there is one thing though..... the version still says 4.2..... not 4.2.1 which i think would be a more stable build..
[Nexus 4 General] PlanBSTi:
I've let my CPU hit over 130c a few times for more than 10s(not much longer though). That was back on the older chips though (Q9450) CPU still runs today and no signs of falling.

My i7 hit 100c i believe? Still fine. 8 threads still running strong.

I'm pretty sure android will have something like the iPhone where it will tell you the phone is overheating and let it cool down before continuing.

What damages the CPU is extended usage of its at high temperatures. EG 20-30m @ 100c when you see videos of it online they've hit least 170-200c before exploding

If your phone was that hot. You wouldn't be able to hold it in your hand anyways or the screen will probably go black and fail or battery will explode in your hand before there is damage done to the CPU.
[Nexus 4 General] haydonxda:
There's other stuff in the phone too. The battery is particularly sensitive, probably the LCD too. Looks like around 140 Fahrenheit (60 Celsius) the battery starts to degrade. Outright failure at around 190 (87) so something well below the temps you suggest would definitely cook your phone.
[Nexus 4 General] ruzkay:
so did anyone compare benchmarks on gnex with 4.2 and ics? to relate to n4 (4.2) and og (ics)?
[Nexus 4 General] red12355:
Proof? Anandtech couldn't evenget the full glbenchmark suite running on it, let along test for throttling.
[Nexus 4 General] szymon247:
Funny thing is no owners posted here so far and pretty much a lot of people already have this phone..

Did anyone actually get this phone (a retail unit, which is usually a little different from the preview units distributed to the reviewers) and try to run any benchmarks? Does the phone get warm?

Would it be possible to ask some new owners to run benchmarks and post their results?
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
That is funny.....http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1989561
[Nexus 4 General] szymon247:
Yeah, only 1 user posted there with Egypt scores.
[Nexus 4 General] wreckone:
Yep. I think I'll hold off from purchasing the nex4 until more real world reviews come in. I love my Gnex, but had to upgrade the battery to 2000mah(w/cover) in order to get through a day with moderate use. Now with a fixed battery in the nex4 and probably no option to install a larger battery :( ... I'll wait to see if there are any black Friday deals out there on on unlocked smartphones :o
[Nexus 4 General] Ravynmagi:
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see any mention of the OTA update in the Anandtech article. Are we sure the performance and battery results are with the yesterday's update?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] asaa:
CM10/PA here, my GS3 will randomly lose all data connection whenever it feels like it! It will go from full blue bars with the 3G icon to full bars grey'd out and back even if I'm stationary!

Tried flashing 2 different radios with no avail. Any advice? My phone didn't used to do this, but I'm not sure what I changed!

I'm gonna try a different kernel, I'll update this if it worked. Thanks!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] asaa:
Just tried a different radio, no change :(
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] kalala:
Same here. Are you in the Chicago area by any chance?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] cazman420:
I am in Chicago same thing. Just applied nightly and it just dropped as I am typing. Ddddaaannnggg
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] kalala:
Then perhaps it's got something to do with the infrastructure updating. I'm about 30 miles out from Chicago in the burbs and my daily commute moves me 20 miles away from home but still 20-30 miles away from the city, so maybe it has something to do with that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] cazman420:
I'm about 45 miles out from Chicago in the burbs. But traveled all over today. No change where ever I went.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] squall2131:
I'm also experiencing this in DC area. I just bought Sprint GS3 about a week ago, and just flashed last night after using rooted stock rom during my normal commute ~60 miles round trip. Normal commute with stock rom seemed to play Pandora with no drops, today (first day using CM10), 3g dropped so many times i gave up and just listened to music i have on my phone.

Any updates, or ideas? I haven't tried flashing radios yet, but it seems from other posts above, that doesn't affect anything?

I'm running CM 10.0.0-d2spr Stable, same kernel that came with CM10, the only thing out of the ordinary I have set is underclocking, 384-810 Mhz, but that shouldn't affect anything...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ckmcknight:
Same here

I live in the middle of Atlanta and I have the same thing running cm10 stable. I don't remember having this problem before Jelly Bean has anyone tried reflashing ICS
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] elvirr:
Ok, i will try to explain (english is not my first language) :D

I have strange problem when updating apps via play store.

When i go to play store and manualy start app update, and when update is finished, the app which i am currently using, like msgs, youtube, facebook if freezes and i have to close it with task manager and run it again.

The bigger problem is when i start update and go to my home screen, immediately after the app is updated, the launcher freezes and i have to restart the phone.

During this i can open notification bar, open settings and stuff but nothing else works.

I don't have many apps, maybe 15 installed, and i am running cleanrom v5.

Is there some log which can help me to identify the problem?

Thanks

UPDATE:

Maybe this can help to someone but the problem was because of restored apps with titanium backup.

I reinstalled rom and then dowloaded all my apps from play store and everything is ok now, no problems.

I am not sure but maybe i created backup of my apps when i was running cm10, so restoring it in sense rom could cause instability.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] keval_104:
derefas should make wifi direct work in desire c rom if the bluetooth is not working......what say???
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Hpsgill:
Post in rom thread

Why u post in q/a thread???
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] keval_104:
i m a new user

i am a new user i cant post in developrers post. requires 10 post to post in that thread....
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
What is WiFi direct bro ?
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] keval_104:
file sharing

wifi direct can share things like photoes and videos and songs.......on the other wifi direct having device.......it works like nfc in samsung galaxy s3!!!!!!!!!and with more speed than bluetooth........cm 9 for pico is having wifi direct....
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] siddharth1102:
It is related to hardware you can't add it.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] keval_104:
I dont know whether it is hardware or not but cynogenmod 9 rom is having wifi direct and when i on wifi direct it shows in notification for wifi direct that it is on and can search but i dont pair with any 1 if any1 tried then tell me!!!!!!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] keval_104:
"http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct#section_2" see this link it says it is softap...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] goldt:
Does anyone know how to calibrate the screen for sensitivity and not the s pen.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] loveshinesthru:
you dont, you calibrate the pen. under the button on the pen there are two dials. the closest one to the tip is the one you turn for the sensitivity. I cant remember which direction, one direction lessens it and one direction heightens it.

oops sorry, i didnt read the whole thing. I havent seen anything for screen, only the pen.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Fritz Pinguin:
The last update (it came over the air) for the Galaxy Tab 7.7 fixed the problem with disconnections and bad or no receptions of access points. It seems that the new firmware update to P6800DXLP8_P6800OLBLP7_THL.zip (from sammobile) cured the bug. I can confirm that at least two tablets (mine and the one of a friend) are working perfectly now.

The update showed up on Monday morning in Thailand. For version information see picture. View attachment 1478247
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Fritz Pinguin:
Just to mention: *#06# works again and shows the IMEI of your Tab.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] KuraKuraBesi:
Yup,finally samsung released a fix for tab 7.7.I'm so pleased:laugh:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Fred42Flintstone:
it works...

I can confirm the proper workings of the update on my GT77.

All access points that caused grey hairs during the last weeks can be flawlessly accessed and work. Period.

Thanks Samsung for the undocumented and unexpected update ;)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guashi:
Its only for thailand firmwares??
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] faurash:
Nope, all P6800DXLP8 firmwares are wifi bug free.

Faur
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guashi:
Ohh Great! :good:

Is there any DXLP8 firmwares with portuguese language??
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] freaksamael:
Let's see a custom ROM with this !
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] edan1979:
you dont need to flash the firmware... just the modem.bin will do... download the files, unzip it and use odin to flash. put the files on phone section.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guashi:
Just did that... doesnt work... :/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] edan1979:
what doesn't work?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guashi:
Sorry, I mean that the method that you said didnt work for me.

I flash the modem.bin file that you post. put the files on phone, on Odin and start the flash.

Rebot system and the wifi problem persist.:(
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jola013:
I used the plain Singapore version (no carriers) and the wifi works fine.

But it does not seem to support Portuguese.

Only Bahasa Indonesia, Bahasa Malaysia, various type of English, and four languages that I can't read (one is, I think, Vietnamese).
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] himadri:
Ernst does this mean for the CM10 based roms? Do we get the long sought after drivers there developers were talking about? or do we have to downgrade to ICS to use this ?

sent from my planetoid using a banana
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] yeekli:
Did any body experience issues that MicroSD card not reliable on this build. I am using an Sandisk 32GB MicroSd card, I had used it with the P6800 for about a month, never noticed any issue before. However, after the last update (which fixed the WIFI issue and made the device much more reliable), I suddenly start to experience issue with the MicroSD card, it fails randomly when copying large files or large number of files. I first thought it's the card issue, but the card works perfectly fine on my blackberry or card reader. And I didn't noticed this issue on the tablet before.

Is it possible to just SDCard driver from the previous version?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] edan1979:
i also having the same problem last time with the old driver... update and using this one kind of solved the problem for me...

http://www.mediafire.com/?qp9gw2i9lwbr3qb
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Androidclub:
One of that is Thai.

It like this ภาษาไทย
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] rhester72:
Is this also valid for the i815?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] brontetab:
Love the speed after the update. Its finally working great.

But it comes with bloatware. How do i remove it? Also android keyboard with numbers on top is gone :(

Overall this a superior update. My tab is faster than ever!!!! Love it!!!!