[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
How can you say there has not been one "substantial" claim to back his "theory" when its his OWN Personal Experience...??? One doesn't Need any more claims if they experienced it themselves... or are you one of those people who don't believe it till you experience it yourself...?? Not to mention I had the EXACT same experience when I bought my SGS1 from HSN in 2011 after which I stopped dealing with them... that was when there was no supposed "7 day return policy" and they used to go on and on about a warranty, which later they said oh we only give software warranties, not hardware... matter of fact I may still have a picture of the random ass person who's pics were on the phone in my backup somewhere.

So the "rumors" are 100% true... there are not shortcuts to experience in life... and having had the exact same experience as mentioned above... I KNOW I'm not crazy of just had bad luck...

As for why it happens... HSN buys its products from anyone... not some kinda official contract with dealers... if I want to sell some phones I got from abroad, they buy those too... which is quite normal for anyone... not saying that's wrong. But ofcourse the phones are checked then resealed... and when your dealing with dozens of phones, your not gonna turn on and go thru every phone... you know people buy phones, use them for a few weeks without taking off the plastic... hell I used my N4 without taking off the plastic... I bought a Galaxy Nexus for someone who didn't take off the original plastic for about 2 months...!! When I got my S1 I couldn't find its protector for a week either so used it that way... bottom line... all these phones if carefully used can be resold without the buyer knowing its used... in the mobile market in Saddar this is known as a KHUSHBOO piece... opened, used a few days, repacked and sold... everyone does it these days... I had a huge fight with another shopkeeper in bahadurabad who was trying to sell me the most Effed up wildfire S khushboo with scratches and dust and even had a normal screen protector on, but it was a sealed box... and till I left the shop he was adamant that its new and if you don't want it someone else will buy and he was confident about it and I'm sure he was right.

People just don't know.

And due to that simple fact HSN does it too... its dishonest, but it gets you the largest profit margin... buy cheap saying its used... sell expensive saying its new... win win situation... when customer comes to claim the return/exchange... as stated above, your family must have done it... lol... just like you ask deadsol... how can one prove the pics were on there from before... same way I couldn't or the dude above couldn't... but the way to do so that doesn't occur till its too late... check the details of when the pic was taken... your receipt will say when you bought it... if the pic was before purchase... there is your proof... BUT... the 5 people who read this post will know that... what about the millions of others...

Mind you I know I come off as I have some vendetta against HSN... but I don't really... but I do have a problem with when people take advantage of the uneducated/unaware common man and rip them off... if you read the posts I had posted in the i9100 pakistan thread along with reading HSN's response, and then them never replying to what I said... then you will get a better understanding what's going on... but till then to say these rumors are baseless is you being naive... were not saying "someone told me this this this..."... were saying "This happened with ME"...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q