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[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
People seem to think that the Nexus 4 is from Google. It is not. It's from LG. I highly doubt Google is making any profits at all. They merely told LG what kind of phone they wanted. There is a reason that most Nexus devices are based on other phones from the same company. Like the Nexus 4 is based on the Optimus G. And like the Nexus S was based on the Galaxy S. Google doesn't say "make this exact phone with these exact specs". They say "make us a cheap quad core phone with a couple of specific specs we want and keep all the profits". LG takes the easy road and bases their Nexus on their own Optimus G.

Google doesn't want to make profit with the hardware. It's all about advertisement. It's about making more and more people use their services. In their ideal world, everyone has a Google account, an Android smartphone, a Chrome desktop (or something similar) and uses Google+ instead of Facebook. What all these things have in common is that they are all free. If you pay money for a Google product, you don't pay for the software. You pay for the hardware. That's the great thing about Google. They're making billions but you're almost never paying them directly.

The Nexus 4 is just a flagship device. It's Google's way of saying "this is what we'd like Android to be right now". Everyone reads that there actually are smart phones that are good AND cheap, and more and more companies start to make good and cheap smartphones, which leads to more and more people using Google services.
[Nexus 4 General] ingbrzy:
I orderer N4 16GB on 4.12.2012 17:31:19 with 4-5 week shipping... until now, nothing changed... CC not charged... anybody else here..?
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
The device is produced by LG but if Google did better market research then they wouldn't had those limited stock problems. LG delivers the phones that Google ordered. So yes it's Google fault that they didn't made enough from the beginning. The previous Nexus phones were alot more expensive so this would be the first time that Google don't want to make real money from selling the phone. LG takes the easy road? Even the first Nexus One was almost the same as the HTC Desire. Do you really think that a company is going to make a whole new phone? That would cost to much money and time.

Even MM gets more devices lately than Google! And Google is a big company, no they aren't a retail store. But if you are such a big company you have enough money and right people to outsource those things to a company that can get the job done.
[Nexus 4 General] Androyed:
No, no, I think you misunderstood me! I wasn't ranting on LG, or Google for that matter. And I specifically said that almost every Nexus device has been based on another phone. LG takes the easy road, but so did Samsung and HTC. This is not criticism, it's just a fact. I mean, I don't care. What does it matter anyway?

I just think that Google doesn't really have much to say in the production of the Nexus 4, or other Nexus devices for that matter. They just tell a company to make a product with a certain price and a couple of specific specs they want, and the rest is up to that company. They switch from HTC to Samsung, ASUS and LG. Because that's not what's important. What's important is as much people as possible using Google's services.

The fact that other Nexus phones have been relatively more expensive doesn't mean this is the first time they don't want to make any money from selling the hardware. They never did. Making it cheaper is just a way of making more people use Android, and thus use Google's services.

Whether it's Google's or LG's fault that there are such problems with the stock, I don't know. On one hand I think Google. Google tells LG how much Nexus 4s they should produce. They underestimate the demand, and the result is that the Nexus 4 is out of stock. On the other hand I think LG. Google says "do whatever you want, as long as you sell a certain amount". LG kan keep the profit anyway. LG thinks "this device can't be that popular, let's only make 400.000". They underestimate the demand, and this is the result.
[Nexus 4 General] Rocco3:
if YOU are selling a product, it is YOUR responsibility. so it is with Google, whoever produces it....
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
There are some saturns that still have some devices like saturn mönchengladbach city and some others.
[Nexus 4 General] oele3110:
Same here, orded 04.12.2012 17:11:48, delivery time 4-5 weeks, nothing yet.

I contacted support several times. Last reply I got says, that they investigate, what the problem is, and why I didn't get my phone yet.

That was on Thursday 10th. Monday I contact them again, asking if they found something on their "investigation".

I run wild with this thing :silly:

UPDATE:

Google Play date updated to 12th January 2013. I hope it means, they deliver a new batch soon.
[Nexus 4 General] ComRaider:
Please, keep us informed. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] (THE REAL) Neo:
Preordered on 9 Dec with estimated time 7-8 weeks,updated order date to 3 Jan,then nothing...

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[Nexus 4 General] christoff_el:
One other guy on here had the same thing. I'm waiting for the RMA replacement to arrive so I can send the silly white box back.
[Nexus 4 General] tututu08:
NEXUS 4

Yesterday I ordered a Nexus 4 16GB from MM-Homepage with shipping option. PayPal. (11.01.13 - 18:10 GMT +1)

Today i got a shipping mail with a DHL tracking link inside :highfive::victory::D !!!!!!! (12.01.13 - 15:49 GMT +1)

I can't sleep the next days ;)

I can tell you on monday maybe thuesday ;)
[Nexus 4 General] javii:
How can i order from mm website? I searched nexus but i only see nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
I made an order at MM and chosen to pick it up at MM Aachen. Would it be possible to change it and still let them ship it? Can't find info on the website and also not how to cancel the order.
[Nexus 4 General] tututu08:
I think the N4 ist Sold out since yesterday. :(
[Nexus 4 General] jurvyx:
Finally got mine, picked up this morning.

SN: 212kpu, so 12/2012 in korea :)
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
My PreOrder with 2 devices from MediaMarkt Munich is now available for pickup.

I got my device 3 weeks ago, so if anybody wants to get the pickup mail just give me a pm.
[Nexus 4 General] claudios91:
same situation but nothing changed since 2jan. Really upset.:crying:
[Nexus 4 General] mikaole:
you can put me off the list.

cancelled my Google order from 11.12.2013 yesterday.

Ordered one from Saturn online yesterday. Was there for pick up at Poppenbüttel store

went there today, because I didn´t get any mail from Saturn Online.

Service told me there is no Nexus for me today and there will not be in the next week. GRRRRRR

But I should go in the store and preorder one there.

Went to the phone section and told the guy my story and he said: No problem I have one here for you :):):):)

Bought it, cancelled my order from Saturn Online and I am already unlocked, rootet, flashed CWM and now testing it on Stock 1st.

Good luck to the rest of you guys :):):)
[Nexus 4 General] abufaka:
They still do and the "virtual card" is another product where you can generate virtual cards on the fly. It has been reintroduced recently. Just drop me a PM and im glad to help you :)

Mywirecard on the other hand isn't "free" and has several other disadvantages...
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
The thing is, this is the only sane way to build a low quantity phone. Otherwise engineering costs per device would be simply insane. And frankly - absolutely for nothing. What is the point of getting OEM to design an "totally different than usual flagship"? When they already have their flagship right here on the table. It is much cheaper to take what is there and do some minor adjustments for whatever resons.

I suppose it is google who decides how many devices should be built. The problem is, that once decided it is very difficult to make quick adjustments.

And yes, anyone can wax about "proper market analysis", but the reality is, that it is an utterly inexact science. You can't reliably research something what does not exist.
[Nexus 4 General] YetiLanguste:
Did some 6-7 weekers receive the phone? I am still waiting. Ordered @ 7/12 Google support says:

"Unseren Unterlagen zufolge wird Ihre Bestellung voraussichtlich am Abend des 23-01-2013 versandt"
[Nexus 4 General] fobas001:
Abd what does it mean, dont speak german, but ordered same as you
[Nexus 4 General] 3RMD:
This means that they want to ship his phone at the evening of 23.1.13.

This is the last opportunity for Google to ship your phone within the 6-7 weeks estimation. At the 25th, the 7 weeks end.

I've placed my order on 6.12 with also 6-7 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] FAXE1L:
I ordered at 6th of December and still nothing, not even changes in Wallet or Play Store.

On Friday, they were a couple of N4 available at MM.de so I purchased what I thought was a single N4. Today I checked my credit card balance and it showed -800 €. Re-reading the order confirmation again it turns out I ordered two devices instead of one by accident. Duh. Both devices have been shipped on the evening of Friday.

Meanwhile, the device I ordered from the Play Store is still pending. It will probably arrive sometime next week, maybe in two weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] F_T_B:
Hey guys,

I previously looked at AddressGermany's personal shopper service, which would have been a blessing in disguise but those folks don't want to deal with N4 at all now.

May I ask how anyone outside of Germany can purchase a Nexus 4 from MM or Saturn? Can someone explain the process, as I want a trustful opinion on how to pay for it and how to ship it my way...

If anyone has an extra N4 (new, in box)... maybe just wishful thinking.

Have a nice day!
[Nexus 4 General] me_max:
deleted.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Order online, create an account with mailboxde.com. Let mm or saturn ship it to your mailboxde address. Once they have it you can let them ship it to your home address. Shipping costs depends on the chosen shipping service.
[Nexus 4 General] F_T_B:
I get the basics, I was only wondering about the specifics there.

What about payment for instance? Or the data that needs to be filled in at purchase? I saw Saturn requires a German address for the buyer, as well as phone number.

I don't want to guess around, never did this before.

PS: Maybe you haven't noticed but I specifically said "[order] outside of Germany" meaning from another country, hence the above mentioned questions.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Maybe you didn't understand but just use the mailboxde address you receive when you register. Then use this when ordering at mm or saturn. You can pay by PayPal or credit card.
[Nexus 4 General] F_T_B:
Now thank you.

It was my assumption that I would have to have a German credit card & such.
[Nexus 4 General] ckret:
got 1 n4 preordered in hannover mediamarkt for 395

if anyboy wants it write me a pm
[Nexus 4 General] deoneR:
got 2 preorded + ready for pickup @ MM in munich

if anyone wants to pick it up for me pm!

i'm not picking it up and ship it to you...
[Nexus 4 General] searius:
Nexus 4

Hi!

Is possible to have it shipped to Greece?
[Nexus 4 General] ComRaider:
Any new e-mail from GP??
[Nexus 4 General] sebr:
No. Next shippings will be on 16.01., 23.01. and 30.01.

Thats according to what people received by email from Google.

But since now not even stock for RMA is availabale and still orders from November and 4th December pending (especially the 8GB version) I doubt by the end of month all customers will receive their phones.
[Nexus 4 General] oele3110:
I received my shipping confirmation a few minutes ago.

4-5 weeks shipping time.

Finally I become happy :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Order date?
[Nexus 4 General] oele3110:
4th December, 17:11.
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
Waiting for an RMA for a long time :(
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
OK they start shipping... But only one people? Oele3110 I'm happy for you!

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[Nexus 4 General] WURSTFABRiK1337:
Hope i'm getting my preorderd nexus tomorrow at Mediamarkt
[Nexus 4 General] oele3110:
Thank you :)

Maybe they shipped my device, because I contacted the support for several times.

I was really annoyed about the fact, that people, who had a shippingtime of 5-6 weeks got their device and I didn't get my, while having 4-5 weeks shipping time.

The friendly woman from the support team told me last week, that she forwared my case to the responsible divison.
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
I doubt they'll start massive shipping this week. This guy only got a shipping notice because it was already long overdue. He should have gotten it 2 weeks ago... They'll either start on the 16th, if we're lucky, other wise we'll probably see mass shipping by early to mid next week.
[Nexus 4 General] claudios91:
My date in playstore changed to January 14, 2013 i'm one of the 4-5 weeks. Does anybody got the same?!
[Nexus 4 General] jetcz:
google just placed 360€ on hold on my credit card (too bad the echxange rate for eur/czk changed for worse since I ordered it, so its going to cost me somewhat more, but I just really want my device now)

and date in playstore changed to 14 jan ...no idea what all this means

ordered 11 dec, est 6-7 weeks

no shipping mail yet
[Nexus 4 General] jleppa:
Just got the following email (I haven't updated any information).

Hello xxxx,

You have successfully updated your payment information for Google Order #xxxx. Google Commerce Ltd may now charge and fulfil your order.

Also date changed to Jan 14th in play store.
[Nexus 4 General] ComRaider:
My date in playstore changed to 14 jan , praying for good news.

EDIT: Google retains my 358,99 in bank account.

Go Google GOOO
[Nexus 4 General] kinglargo:
what is your status now?
[Nexus 4 General] ComRaider:
Pre-ordered
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
LOL :D

I'm a 1-2 weeker from england without phone, and in germany 6-7 weekers will get their phones in a couple of days. This is more than annoying.
[Nexus 4 General] kinglargo:
me, too, it's normal

when is your order date, and which model and what was you estimation please.

it's for the google drive spreadsheet
[Nexus 4 General] williamvdh:
Ordered the 6th of December (6-7 weeks), status changed the 2nd of January and today again, Google deducted the amount from my credit card today too.

Can I expect the phone in a couple of days?
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Go! Go! Go! Google!!!

Well my friends,

Request transaction on my credit card for amount € 358.99. Order of PlayStore changed to 14/01/13. Still no email .... but the money was taken so we should be there by now.

I enter my data if you want to add them to the database

German PLAY STORE (Philidor)

Order of 06/12/12

Status changed 02/01/13

Status changed 14/01/13 (Still Preorder no shipping email)

Request transaction on my credit card 14/01/13
[Nexus 4 General] katman4:
Confirming recent experiences above.

Ordered on 6-th of December 11:05:19 PM , 6-7 weeks estimate.

Google just took my money.

I'm at home Google, please deliver!
[Nexus 4 General] jleppa:
I think you already added me before, but Here's some more info: Ordered 16 GB model (2pcs) 12.12.12 with 6-7 weeks estimate. Status is still pre-ordered. Can't see if my order has been charged from my cc because payment are updated only once a day.
[Nexus 4 General] brozef:
for me date on play store changed to 14.1.2013 and also got charge on my CC :)

Edit: ordered 14.12.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Let's hope shipping starts but the previous date change didn't result in shipping.
[Nexus 4 General] mbfaay:
Also have date changed to 14 Jan today.

No shipping email received yet.

Ordered 11dec 6-7 weeks
[Nexus 4 General] freezer2k:
Hey all,

Today i was in the Saturn Berlin-Treptow store and was asking about the Nexus4.

The guy there made a few calls and said they just got some more phones coming in.

He reserved the 16GB model for 399eur for me. He noted that i should be able to pick it up by the end of the week.

So anyone in Berlin who wants to have a Nexus4 now, should probably try to order one at Saturn. The new stock will likely to be gone very soon.
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Charged credito card?

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[Nexus 4 General] Ro0tMan:
i dont understand what is said here :

http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/LG-Nexus-4-16-GB,48352,365082,523287.html?langId=-3

But i know that the next week i will come to Berlin to make my vacations :D ( i will do a tour to some cities :laugh: , hope will be nice ) and maybe i will see the phone somewhere Saturn , MediaMarkt...etc

:good:
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
I noticed that my order changed to January 14th as well. Ordered on 13 December, but I can't check if the CC has been charged at the moment. I'll just have to wait patiently until the email comes in. But I think I saw someone earlier in the thread that ordered on the 14th of December who had his card charged. Going by that I'll just assume my card has been charged as well.....I hope:p
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
It says you will go home without nexus 4. But have a nice trip.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Maybe they are just checking if people still have a valid credit card and can pay for the device since it's more than one month ago and your funds could be low now after holidays :P
[Nexus 4 General] DarkFire1985:
Also a change to 14 Jan here.

Order Date: December 6, 2012 5:42:46 PM UTC+1

Changed to 2 Jan before and now 14 January. Lets hope it means something this time.

No idea about the CC charge though.
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
I hope not be true. Me too 6 December

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[Nexus 4 General] jleppa:
Already got excited about that date change, but now that you said it, I think you're right :( I think I read from some of these topics that they check your credit card every 30 days.

Still hope that you are wrong and our orders are shipped tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Well, I had a date change to January 2nd and now to the 14th. Hardly a month, so it could really be that they'll start shipping soon.
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Don't lose yours hope. 1 mount passed 1 week ago without change cc and rumors says near 15 will be a restock

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[Nexus 4 General] g0rd3n:
i got this together with my second date change

does this mean anything? :)
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Is that an email?
[Nexus 4 General] g0rd3n:
yes thats from an email
[Nexus 4 General] zzerozzero1:
It says not yet sent !
[Nexus 4 General] kinglargo:
batch analyse

it looks like Google treated their first big batch ordering from 4 to 6 /12/2012, which is where most people ordered their nexus 4. (2 days)

now let's hope the second batch is from 7 to 15/12/2012 which should be equally big as first batch even tough it's 7 days.

I see 3 realistic possibilities here:

x devices for Germany

A)

x/2 = orders from 04/12 to 06/12

x/2 = orders from 07/12 to 15/12

B)

or there would be 3 batches

1/3x 04/12 to 06/12

1/3x 07/12 to 11/12

1/3x 12/12 to 15/12

C)

Google is messing with us and just doing it randomly at their own pace.

what do you think?
[Nexus 4 General] Polv89:
Date changed and CC charged...i hope it's good...
[Nexus 4 General] sebr:
when did you order?
[Nexus 4 General] HearthC0re:
Ordered 6.12.12 - Got the same change in my order (14.1.13) though no mail, yet.
[Nexus 4 General] Polv89:
7 december, confirmed on 9..

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[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
What are you talking about? Google shipped more as one time... And batches aren't the same. There are still people waiting from 4-5 december. If Google has a new batch then we just have to wait and see who gets their order shipped. We don't know how many orders are still open.
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Someone received a shipping email? I have my status updated to 14 (preordered) and credit card charged yesterday night but nothing until now. (Ordered 6 December. They have time I'm 6-7 weeker)
[Nexus 4 General] epology:
Same as last post, but I have an RMA with them. Really hoping it will be shipped today.

I'll post as soon as I get a shipping email.
[Nexus 4 General] Dyklu:
Today I will hunt N4 in Media Markt in Dresden. The first delivery was on 07.01. I was there on 09.01 and of course all of them were sold (they have only one but it was for exposion - not for saling), and the guy told me that next delivery will be in the end of January. But I read on network that delivery will be on 15.01 - so I will try to get it today!
[Nexus 4 General] oele3110:
Just received my phone :laugh:

Order date 4th Dec, 17:11

Estimated shippingtime 4-5 weeks.

So now, i had 6 weeks, but I'm happy to hold it in my hand :D
[Nexus 4 General] Razertje:
A friend of mine ordered my N4 on the 4th of December at 18:12, still no progress and no changes in his Google account... Estimated delivery was 4-5 weeks, still no news. Google shame on you!
[Nexus 4 General] brozef:
just got shipping mail :) :)

ordered 14.12.
[Nexus 4 General] jleppa:
Great news :) I hope they continue shipping for all of us!
[Nexus 4 General] ahepas:
At last!

Hi everybody. Today my order is complete. Ordered at 7-12-12. CC is charged!

Good luck everyone!
[Nexus 4 General] jetcz:
got shipping mail! ordered 11.12
[Nexus 4 General] WURSTFABRiK1337:
Just got call from MM Brandenburg...ready to pick up...so happy:)
[Nexus 4 General] YetiLanguste:
Received send confirmation @12:33 Today. It could last 24 hours till the DHL tracking number is working. What do you guys expect. When will I get my Nexus 4?

edit1: I bought it @ 7/12/12 6-7 week wait time
[Nexus 4 General] jleppa:
Received shipping confirmation an hour ago :)

(ordered 16gb 12th dec)
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
Random question: the Nexus 4 from Media Markt is 16gb version or 8gb??
[Nexus 4 General] 3RMD:
Shipping mail received at 15:32 german time. Ordered on the evening of 6th December. :cowboy: CC charged.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
It's 16gb model.

If Google ships a 14 Dec order then they better ship all orders. Hope it's not randomly again!
[Nexus 4 General] williamvdh:
I asked today, again, about my status, this is what they replied:

What a joke! In the order of the ordering... They autorised my creditcard a couple of days after my order and did it again yesterday, in the meantime I made sure there was enough money on my creditcard the whole time. Just bullsh*t what they tell you. They can not tell me when they will send it, hopefully I will receive a shipping mail somewhere today, because I see people with confirmations who ordered the 14th of December (while I ordered the 6th).
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
Anyone here from Wiesbaden?? Need a favour please:/
[Nexus 4 General] Mahnn:
Just for the record, the date ordered has nothing to do with when do they ship. It's either random or based on the shipping address, but it's very clear by now it doesn't correspond with the timing of the order.
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
RMA shipped! 16GB.
[Nexus 4 General] -Gerto-:
Woooooohooooo, SHIPPED! :D :D :D

Order date 10/12; received mail 25 minutes ago; hangt in there all, mails still being sent! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] kinglargo:
shipped?

status shipped means stil in delivering from DHL?
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
I doubt that's. My guess is they just have a large batch for the dates of december 4 until december 14 (latest order we've seen until now) which they give to DHL. DHL labels these orders randomly, and sends the shipping labels back to google at random. Which they send out as they receive them. Which is random also.

If it says shipped. DHL will pick up your package today (latest tomorrow) or they have already picked up your package, and you'll most likely have it tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] me_max:
FYI: I just received the email that my replacement device ordered on Dec 28th is being shipped.
[Nexus 4 General] epology:
This really is a joke. I ordered my replacement on the 24th of december and have not received anything yet. Support also has no clue what is going on.
[Nexus 4 General] fobas001:
got shipping email aswell, ordered 12.12.12 with 6-7 weeks delay, dhl tracking not working yet
[Nexus 4 General] wewd:
Dec 10. 6-7 weeker 16gb, shipping mail received today.
[Nexus 4 General] ComRaider:
Dec 7, Mail recived but not tracking yet.