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[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
I used the phone last night for browsing , and I think I had more then half battery left, now in the morning , the phone was dead and when I turned it on , I had only 9 percent left, I'm on xperia z1 rom, better battery stats won't show anything about what happened!
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I've seen that in a few other areas and the responses say that its a battery issue - you may need to replace it.

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OK. Regarding the horrid SOD, I'm using Hells Core kernel, and its been almost 60 something hours and nothing odd yet.

There is one observation I made: on the stock kernel, after a few days of usage, when I remove the USB connector from the phone (from charging), the screen doesn't turn on sometimes. When that becomes the norm, a SOD is expected. But with this kernel, over the past few days (I accidentally restarted my phone today), i hadn't had this issue of the screen not turning back on when I unplug the charger, which, I hope, means no SOD.

I wonder if I'm making sense. Am I?
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Yes u make sense! And u mean installing a custom kernel fixed Sod? Was hangouts being used by you during this test or observation, ? Im on hells doctor kernel , i had a Sod four dsys ago i think, and now from two days, im having the new problem (described in previous posts)
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Its too early to say whether installing a custom kernel fixed it or not, but my initial test's indications seemed to agree with this sentiment. I need a few more days to see whether installing the kernel fixed it or not.

No, haven't used Hangouts for SMS - but its installed and being kept for chats only. I don't remember actively using it, but its not being used for SMS FWIW.

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Oh, and I haven't altered the default settings for Hells Core - didn't change the governor, nor the frequency, and I'm using beta44 (or whatever the beta was...with the new kernel upstream or whatever the proper term is).
[Nexus 4 General] asajjad:
Stock Kitkat kernel

I need to revert my Nexus 4 to stock kernel from Franco kernel before I give it for claiming warranty related to power on/off button. Can anyone here let me know the stock kernel I should be reverting to?

Regards,
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
I think u should flash the full stock factory image before giving it before any warranty type things,
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
OK. I managed to run the phone for 6 days without encountering a SOD.

But - I realized that my power button is slowly going bad. It just started happening on the fourth day of usage (and no crash) and its freaking me out cause now, I have to press it harder for it to work.

So - SOD, I suppose, is either a kernel thing, a mpdecision/hotplug thing, or a governor thing.

Oh well...back on the stock kernel cause it gave me a much better idle drain on WiFi.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Creeepyy ..!!!!

Hey , how did u managed to run ur phone without SoD for 6 Days in the first place? Im on nexus 5 experience rom now , im getting less frequent sods then before (maybe)

P.s hellscore is a good kernel in terms of battery , battery drain was really good , i was on the stable build by the way
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Don't ask. It crashed in the mornings mostly. Thankfully, I was partially awake to realize my phone screwed up and the alarm didn't ring.

So how less frequent are your SODs? I managed to achieve 6 days (it didn't crash - I just had to reboot the phone thinking the power button issue was a software issue...which turned out to be a hardware problem).
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Im having very less Sods then before, i haven't faced any sod in the mornings till now (im waking up early now due to the working alarms), , note that these days i turn my WiFi off in the night , but now the sods are more random, like i was using my phone some minutes ago , after some time when i picked it up , the screen didnt turn on! So after flashing this n5 experience rom, the sods are less frequent but more randon!
[Nexus 4 General] BadarChaudhry:
opps wrong topic

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[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
So... That's a net zero position then? :p

But interesting...perhaps its a kernel issue. Which kernel are you currently using with the N5 experience ROM?
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Stock which comes with the caf version of the rom ,
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
You guys having issues in factory images as well?
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Yep.

It's a known issue, unfortunately. Google hasn't fixed it. Whether they realize it or not, is up for debate.

Regarding the N5 ROM - that would most probably be a custom kernel. Perhaps that's why.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Hey my N⁴ peeps... How goes it...? The N5 pak thread is more dead than... A dead person...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Hi man, nice to see u after long time. Whr have u been?

And how's ur n5 going? Yeah seems not many Pakistanis upgraded to n5 that's y n5 thread wud b dead. ?

And in fact i didn't even know we had a n5 pak thread, otherwise i wud have subscribed to it. Let me look for it.

Anyway u tell how's everything?

What rom & kernel u using on n5? How's ur experience with n5 so far? ?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Nexus 5 Pakistan thread guys, if anyone's interested. ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2505340
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Hey Omer... Yea its been a while... Been quite busy as I left khi and came to the amreekas... Still settling in...

N5 is going great, apart from some hardware issues I'm having with GPS and loose buttons... Thankfully I'm here so I could apply for an RMA... Did it once but phone screen was bad... Going to do it again soon... But other than that the phone itself I love, much more than the n4, esp the camera is excellent.

As for ROM n kernel, I'm using cm11 with its stock kernel... Wanted to try pacman but it seems to have too many bugs for now and I'm too lazy to set a new ROM from scratch... Will probably do that after I get a working RMA.

Have you guys seen the new android wear...? Moto 360?? Pretty cool stuff... Tho I really want Google to move on from LG... Word on the street is next nexus is also LG...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
That's cool man. So u in US now. Good.

And yeah heard abt google wear but since wasn't interested in that so didn't go for much detail.

I wish next nexus is not from LG ?, may b from HTC ??
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well I really like the designs LG has pushed out... But their quality control is crap... Hence I don't want them to proceed...

I would actually really want to see a Motorola nexus... That would be awesome because they, like HTC have superb build quality.

I think Android wear will be good... Much better than the galaxy gear crap... But I still think Google glass is better than a watch...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
+1.

Moto nexus or HTC nexus wud b an awesome device.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
How about Nexi Q-mobile :D
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
I ll stop using a nexus phone then.

It ll b an end of nexus.

PS: heard q mobile phone's aren't that bad, never used one tho.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Yeah , q mobiles arent that bad , but the bloatware in them really , really sucks, i used a qmobile z3 , it was fast and snappy , i think q mobile with custom roms will be a good paxkege
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah i remember i also tried my cousin's qmobile for few mins. It was not that bad. Was smooth, display was also fine.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I disagree with you guys there... I think Qmobile sucks balls...

For the price I think the hardware is decent, but the software is so ****ty its unbelievable how bad its integration is... And the fact that they never update the firmware, or you need to update at the service center IF they do update is just ridiculous...

My brothet got my mom the A10 when it was new because of that amazing pricepoint... It was all laggy and hung all the time, battery life terrible... It got stolen after a few months.

Thinking so many people are buying it, I thought maybe got unlucky so I'll get another Q and got the A7 because it has a HUGE 2500mah battery...

I kid you not, that battery takes like 6 hours to charge, and lasts not more than 12 hours, even tho its bigger than the standard battery on 80% high end phones these days. Its always hanging and acting retarded and mom always complaining about it... Will try to send her a motoG.

A cousin was planning on buying a Z3... I told her for 28k why not buy a proper branded phone, so got her the N4 and she a lot happier with that. I admit Q's marketing is insanely good which has people running after it... I heard they have signed Angie Jolie for their next flagship adds so... They are minting money.

Oh I also went with a cousin to their Qmobile office because he also got his mom the A12 which was screwing up... The SD card reader kept effing up and corrupting the card... Believe my that place was PACKED. Like there wasn't even place to stand... After about 3 hours when we got our turn, the guy said what's the problem... We told him... He said... Phone to chalra hai na... Were like yea... He's like jub Tak bilkul chalna chore na de phir mat aye ga because if we take it then anything can happen during repairing... :-/

We were like screw that and obviously walked out after wasting 3 hours.

I would never buy another Q... Nor recommend to anyone... Much better to buy a branded morotola Atrix HD or something which you can get for around 15k...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Yeah , the stock software suvks!! And the warranty guys are all retards running shops! My uncle's a10 got dead tottally ,! He went for warranty and after 2 hours , they refused and said bhai ye to apki ghlti ha , apne shyed paani gira dia hoga!! And why q is selling like fruitcakes in pakistan? Bcoz pakistani people be like " q sasta bhi ha aur touch screen bhi" Hahaha, pakistani people lol, p.s my mother has a a51 , the only thing i liked in it was battery , it always gives about 6 hours of sot, but it is still laggy has hell , !!

And ptcl sucks too!!
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
[MENTION=3159534]aeoveu[/MENTION] hey , guess waht?
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Yesssssssss...????
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
didnt had a SOD for two weeks !! the n5 exp rom also has custom bootloaer and radio stuff, so i think that fixed it, it feels too good to see my alarm ring in the morning! im also using hangouts with sms , i will report if i get a sod again,
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Aaah.

Well - I have a bit of news for you too!

I changed the governor from "on demand" to "interactive" and its been almost five days without a SOD.

I'm going to wait for a day or two and see if it continues.

I don't know if this has any bearing on the battery though... I doubt it does. But I digress.

Also, since I'm using Gravity Box, my phone isn't showing the power menu any more when I press and hold the power button. I THINK it's cause of Gravity Box, but I'm not sure.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Update!

I just went into Trickster Mod and apparently, my governor is NOT Interactive, but instead, is still On Demand.

Which is odd, cause I remember setting it as On Demand.

So its either Gravity Box that is stopping the SOD (cause my power button isn't functioning normally) or its something else. I am using another app for SMS but haven't turned off Hangouts (kept it for chats). I also have the Xposed framework updated to v2.5 so...maybe that's why?

I am really, really confused.

Edit: I spoke too soon - my phone crashed right after I plugged it on the charger.

I'm going to remove GB and change the governor to interactive now...again.

Edit 2: Trickster doesn't want to work nicely with my phone - the instant I restart it, it doesn't enforce the new governor/setting. I don't think Trickster is even doing ANYTHING.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Hey [MENTION=4346952]razi914[/MENTION], I got me a N5.

And even though I initially thought it would be a minor upgrade, it definitely feels faster. Faster to boot, shut down, and all. its also smoother (but I've only spent a few hours with it) in some apps that tended to jitter a bit (as in - the butter is much, much less now - its more pleasant!) But its all relative.

There is one thing that I don't like so far - and its a personal gripe - the vibration motor can get a little noisy. It's also strong...especially when typing. It would seem that the motor goes berserk when I type faster, and the noise just accentuates it further. The N4 felt nicer when typing.

But typing on the N5, for some totally weird reason, actually feels more ergonomic and nicer...minus the strong vibration...maybe I just need to then that off...but typing is a definite plus!

Not sure how the vibration motor is otherwise. Gonna wait for somebody to call me.

But man... The N4 was a fine device!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Congrats dude... I know that feeling... Its a pretty major upgrade and the more you use the device the more you will feel it.

About the vibrator motor, it's something that started happening after the 401k assembled phones... Many people complained about it, but you kinda get used to it. What's more bothersome is the buttons that rattle with the vibration. If you can fix the rattle, the vibration doesn't sound that bad, at least in my opinion...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Congrats ?
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Thanks guys.

The vibration motor, I observed, doesn't bug me when there's ambient noise. I'll just relegate it to a mechanical constant.

Also, the buttons don't exactly rattle... Unless I shake the device frantically and expect to hear a sound. In normal day to day usage, it doesn't rattle nor can you hear the sound. Its also as loud as the camera module rattling I'm many other phones, and that generally didn't bug me.

What I do want is a casing for this device. Not a book like casing (like the Note 3 and all) but a simple wrapper case. It would feel more secure that way.

Also, I mentioned there not being s jitter... You know when you scroll a thread in Tapatalk and the N4 jitters a little in places, right? That jitter is almost non-existent in the N5 and its pretty fluid (not perfect, but not as obvious as the N4).
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Congratulations man! U finally got rid of n4 , is the n5 lighter or heavier in wieght as compared to nexus 4 ?

P.s u can get n5 accessories from HomeShopping. Pk , pretty good website
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Merci :)

I've long thought about getting a wireless charging orb - initially, I thought "meh" but it really does seem like a nice addition. I just won't shell out that much of money (they probably rip you off here in Pakistan... haven't checked the prices).

But another website with accessories is ishopping.pk.

I'm just looking for a case - the cheapest I've seen is (a link I can't find lol) until I saw http://homeshopping.pk/products/SGP-LG-Google-Nexus-5-Case-Slim-Armor.html
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Dude bare in mind that a copy case not the original... Hence when it comes to drops and whatever, you don't know how good a Job it will actually do... And since HSN has only copied the entire original details and not put up any original product pictures at all, you really won't know...

So I'm just saying buyer beware...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Yeah - saw that on HS in the comments (a member of the HS team posted it).

Okay - so found the link again: http://www.dx.com/p/s-what-protecti...e-for-google-nexus-5-white-translucent-282186

You can find other cases here as well. I just ordered another one (similar - but it's back was fully covered as well) and that set me back $3. Free shipping worldwide. And since the dollar rate is low these days, after including Visa's transaction fees etc., you can safely assume it'll be Rs. 100 to a dollar - 300 rupees in other words. Better than buying a flip cover and paying more than what's actually needed.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
So finally we ll have 3g and 4g here in Pakistan ?

Zong gets 10Mhz for 3G & 10Mhz for 4G spectrum, Mobilink gets 10Mhz for 3G, Ufone & Telenor get 5Mhz for 3G

Source(For above MHz info): Jaag TV official twitter account
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Telenor 3G speedtest result in Lahore.

(Telenor official Facebook page says its still in testing phase)
[Nexus 4 General] kamilmirza:
it sure is in testing phase

you should check www.propakistani.pk for more 3G updates :)
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
whats the battery of n5 like ? better or worse than n4 ?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I think the battery is much better... But it really depends on usage and tweaking... In pak I would always use my N4 with location off, which I would get like 4hrs SOT... Here in the US, I have everything enabled including location on high accuracy and Google Now, and I get pretty much the same time... (Both places data always enabled, but here running 4g, there was running edge, so more battery consumption here)...

So probably if I'm to turn that stuff off, I'll get better battery life...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
so in short its a mediocre battery life
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Yea... Mediocre/good enough... Its not bad for sure... But I think a LG G2 is a very good phone to buy if out for a good phone which Is affordable...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I wouldn't call it mediocre - to be honest, I think it's much better than the N4.

I have location turned off (cause on EDGE, the latency and the constant pinging will drain more) but have enabled wifi location polling. From the data usage menu, I've disabled mobile background data for the Google Search app (when the phone turns on and when I'm on the home screen, it updates there anyway). This is what I've done and I've managed to get remarkable battery life. If I can find this post by somebody who measured the power consumption of devices on both EDGE and 3G, I'll paste it - but the crux was that if you're not going to use the internet at all (i.e. idle), going for 2G may help you eke out your consumption marginally, but if you're going to use the internet, better switch to higher speeds to save your battery (and time).

Remember - it's measured in the time spent to finish an action. The quicker it finishes, the better.

SOT easily crosses four hours (getting four hours on the Nexus 4 would mean a very good day).

At the end, it depends on these things:

- the network you're on - the lower the latency, the quicker the phone can race to finish the task. Perhaps this is why location services drain battery here more than they do with 3G/4G-enabled networks.

- apps that constantly use background data (I don't need Google search updating when the screen's off or all the time - besides, navigation here doesn't offer traffic info, and I can go without enabling location services). Block what you don't need - so far, blocking Google Search (only) works wonders. No need to block everything since it won't help. Just see which app you don't actively use but tends to communicate on the internet - shut that!

- Greenify - there are some apps that tend to use push messaging unnecessarily (like games) - greenify them. Additionally, block their background data as well.
[Nexus 4 General] mahrukhsa2:
how much nexus 5 cost in pakistan now ?? is the price dropped ??
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
As per cellmart . pk, 16GB is for 40K (not sure but i guess its without warranty). Check website.

U cam also check homeShopping . pk
[Nexus 4 General] mahrukhsa2:
hmm ok thanks.. should i buy it ??? plz help me.. i m confused that people are complaining about battery and some other issues with this phone..
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
No problem.

I have no idea about these issues, coz i m not using n5.

Here is N5 Pakistan thread,u can discuss it here or in N5 forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2505340

U can ask those who are using it they will give u better opinion.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Battery life will always depend on usage... Its not the BEST battery life out there... But for the price its an excellent phone... And the camera is surprisingly very good and gotten much better since the last few camera updates.

But personally I'm inclined towards the new oppo phone... And if your primary concern is battery... Go for the LG G2... Its considered to be an excellent phone with excellent battery life...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Can u single handly operate lg g2 easily? I heard its too big in size
[Nexus 4 General] kamilmirza:
that's not true

size (5.2) is quite reasonable and 5" are standard for this generation phones

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true that
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Single handed usage really depends on the size of your hands more than anything else... But as Kamil already pointed out, a 5.2inch screen is quite standard now... Considering the nexus5 is 5inches and the G2 bezel is so thin, its practically non existent.

If you want to get more technical, the G2 is only 1mm bigger in height and width than the N5. For the comparison, check here...

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5543&idPhone2=5705

Also you can see the endurance rating for the G2 is phenomenal...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Hey guys , this question may sound dumb but ,,,, how do you take out the sim tray without the official tool ?! (N4
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Never tried it, but i guess the only way to take out sim tray would b to use some pin if u dont have official tool.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Not working :( . wht am i gonna do?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
U cant open it with some pin? It should open i guess. Strange!

Use some thin pin like it is in official tool.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Should it be blunt or sharp at the end?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
It should b like official tool bro. So u can insert it in that tiny hole to open sim tray.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
The problem is ,, i dont even know wht the official tool look like haha :D , (second hand device) !!
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
U dont need to know how the official tool looks like. Just look at the hole next to sim tray and see how thin pin u need to insert there.

Insert and push it slightly until sim tray comes out.
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
K , will try in the morning
[Nexus 4 General] circuit1:
salaam bhaiyon kiyaa haaal hai?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Fine Janab, u tell?
[Nexus 4 General] circuit1:
Alhamdullillah, or bhaiya konsi rom chala rahay ho?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Using rastakat snak3ater build. 15-May build

Here's the link: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=11346
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Running Rastakat ?

Sent from my rastakat powdered Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Hey guys , any ideaa how to stop google services from draining ur battery ? It is so annoying
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I guess try to update to 4.4.3 since it was just released... Maybe that will help your problem...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] razi914:
Is rastkat on 4.4.3 yet?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I doubt it just yet... None is on 4.4.3 yet since source was released like 2 hours Ago... Should start seeing them in another few hours tho... But mind you will be alphas and possibly buggy...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
4.4.3 Sync Complete :D

It's time to build ;)
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Hello,

How is everyone? How's Nexus 4 going? ?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Hey omer... Nexus 5 is going good :P

But my fiances N4 is starting to cause issues... Will probably format it... And the fact that it has compatibility problems with certain wireless chargers sucks... Got the dt-900 for her and the damn thing keeps dropping charge... It works perfect with the N5...

Anywhoo... How you been...?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Hi ?

My N4 going nice, been using it for more than a year now, still doing very decent job.

What issues ur fiance n4 getting? yeah factory reset or flashing rom again might help.

i recently flashed 4.4.3, like new dialer and contacts. it looks better now.