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[Nexus 4 General] gogol:
My GNex does not have any rattle ...

My Nexus S does not have any rattle ...

My old HTC Desire does not have any rattle ...
[Nexus 4 General] L0cke:
Is it slippier than the S3? That's what I have and it's not the best device in the world to keep a hold of.
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
It's slightly slippier. I am kinda scared using it just because I don't want to drop it at all!

I also have the rattle 'problem', but you can't hear it until you shake it a lot right next to your head. It isn't the volume rocker or anything. 8GB version.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
This is indeed the first phone i have had that rattled, and i go through phones.

Call me fussy, but phones should not rattle...
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Yes it's a fair bit slippier.

To put it in perspective, i have a glass desk and can blow the phone around like i'm playing air hockey.

I'm not a complete mental, i wanted to try it so i could offer an example. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] trident167:
It's kind of funny what people find as annoyances in a smartphone.

Since everyone is talking about rattling, I decided to shake my Sensation and noticed a little rattle in the top area. Probably camera area as people have been saying. I never came across that before. Then I started thinking, I would have to shake my phone quite a bit in order to hear it. You don't shake your phone like that during normal use so to me I would say it's not a problem that should be mentioned like it's a negative or defect.

Just my opinion.
[Nexus 4 General] AppReviewBros:
Hey, what about the camera? I am just worried it's worse than my S2's.
[Nexus 4 General] icecicle:
My one so kinda rattles when I shake it hard too like the top case where the sim goes isn't exactly the tightest ..no biggie like ur gonna be going around shaking ur phone bros
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Has the bumper successfully shipped?
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Like a Nexus. This is inherently circular, you must take it on faith. DO NOT QUESTION THIS!
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
Phones aren't designed to be shaken all day long.

That's what maracas are for!
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
People seem to be jumping on the rattling issue.

Phones shouldn't be shaken willy nilly. I concur with this

But i can think of some examples when it's moved suddenly.....i.e playing games where you have to tilt the phone to turn a sharp corner.

Maybe i should clarify. This noise happens not when moving your arm like you watching the latest Paris Hilton leaked video.

I'm talking about when moving it from one hand to another, when putting it down etc.

As for how audible it is, at arms length it can still be heard clearly if gesturing like your flagging down a taxi (Not in the rain waving madly)
[Nexus 4 General] benrees21:
Got mine from o2 and only rattling I have heard is when I shake it and it is coming from the camera, which is normal.
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
well i just hope the rattle occurs only on the O2 batch...hope the play store batch is fine..
[Nexus 4 General] alangrig:
Mine Gnexus batch production 07/2012 doesn't have rattle issue.
[Nexus 4 General] derWolf_:
My S2 is making some noises from the camera as well, which makes me think that this rattle is normal :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] AppReviewBros:
No rattling here.
[Nexus 4 General] Kearkan:
In this thread: people shaking their phones to death do they have an excuse to buy an n4... And then shaking it to death.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
I'm not 100% sure what the above means. But it isn't only noticeable when you shake the phone. If that were the case it would be a non issue?

Just don't shake the phone right?
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Have you had the bumper ship from the Store yet Shaun?
[Nexus 4 General] derWolf_:
Then maybe it is a problem... I really don't know, but it is not something which is disturbing the proper work of the phone and you have to put lots of effort in shaking the phone in order to hear it. If it wasn't that thread I would've probably never understand about this issue.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hi -

Just double check. It appears not - just the order confirmation.

Sorry, my bad.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
I may have read this wrong but i think he was talking about his S2?
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Cheers for checking, working on a theory that all who ordered the bumper will be the last to be shipped.
[Nexus 4 General] immunityx:
Great phone i notice a dark grey line going up and down the screen on the right side of the phone display... its really noticeable when you pull the notification menu all the way down or on a dark color background...anyone else notice anything like this? I may need to do a exchange/replacement :(
[Nexus 4 General] polo045:
All phones do that for the most part. It's nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] jake21:
How is the display in bright sunlight (out doors). Is it still easy to use or does it wash out completely ?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Sorry to hear that. Nothing like that on mine, that does sound like a candidate for replacement?
[Nexus 4 General] juniorbattle:
Shaun, you're doing an awesome work here.

Any chances you check what languages are available (possible screenshot or 5 sec video?)
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Can you post a pic of that grey line?

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[Nexus 4 General] Kearkan:
Haha, ii just found it funny that for a page or so it was like a thread to see who had what phones that rattled. It does seem like an odd issue.
[Nexus 4 General] ryanbmw51:
Does the nexus come with any games or movies or play store credit? Like the nexus 7?
[Nexus 4 General] :
first drop test - involuntary

http://www.android-hilfe.de/nexus-4...ist-mein-nexus-4-heruntergefallen-thread.html
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
The shaking, is it noticable all the time during standard use or only if you shake it?

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[Nexus 4 General] dillym34:
Just when you shake it or even if I plop it down on the couch or counter.
[Nexus 4 General] rbrucemtl:
Is the shaking the plastic volume rocker moving around? Someone mentioned the volume rocker moves freely.
[Nexus 4 General] dillym34:
Definitely not the rocker on mine.
[Nexus 4 General] marsupial99:
Shaken Nexus Syndrome...? :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Yeah I can hear the rattle. It's the camera auto focus mech.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
As per a few pages back. It's not the rocker or power button. Likely candidates so fat are camera shutter or accelerometer
[Nexus 4 General] smirkis:
lol, we always find something. when i shake mine i can hear something inside rattling. not to bugged by it as i honestly didn't even notice it at all yesterday until i read it right now. you will never notice it, you don't shake your phone when u answer it, or use it.

aside from that, this is a great phone. 320ppi looks awesome, the new OS feels nice and smooth. it feels wayyyy faster then my gnex which i updated/unrooted and gave to my gf. she loves it tho. i love this phone and you will to. promise!
[Nexus 4 General] daern:
Got mine, like it. Seems a good upgrade to the GNex. Unlocked bootloader, so ready to get CWM and root when they are available.

Will play more later.
[Nexus 4 General] mejobloggs:
I'd really like to hear people's battery life opinions.

I'd actually really like to see a "budget" N4 option. Focusing more on battery life than power. Maybe just a dual core with a slightly less powerful but more efficient graphics. That'd be sweet as to see in a new Nexus.

Would be my ideal phone. Got my Nexus 7 for games
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
What's the User available RAM in Nexus 4 ?
[Nexus 4 General] jader13254:
~1800mb
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
Hey Thx for that.

Can you post screenshot of running services?
[Nexus 4 General] dabomb224:
Dude, I'd actually call this a victory. According to Google Translate, this guy dropped his Nexus 4 from waist height onto solid cobblestones, and it only got scuffs on the edge of the glass and chrome surrounding it. The only thing worse than cobblestones that I can think of would be a ceramic floor. The glass held up pretty darn well.
[Nexus 4 General] Scoutamis:
Not sure if this has been asked or not...don't have time to look through 35 pages right now but does the glass on the back attract a lot of finger prints and get really sticky like the GSIII? Just wondering cause I HATE the back of the Galaxy S III! Thanks :D
[Nexus 4 General] dabomb224:
For those who have both the Nexus 4 and the GNexus, a question. One of the things that irked me the most about the GNexus was the grainy texture of the display on grey backgrounds, and the faint vertical banding on the display. It was like there were burned in visual artifacts on every GNexus right out of the box. I must have returned 3 or 4 GNexi before finding one with minimal banding and grain. First, did you notice this on your GNexus, and second, do you notice this on your Nexus 4?

Thanks guys.
[Nexus 4 General] smileyanz:
Shaun the gnex is rite now getting all the updates the same as this one. There is only one thing everyone should be hoping is signal which would be a step in the rite direction but myself think perhaps I'll wait for Google to come out with something with a tad difference as there is no way this warrants selling on a phone which in reality won't do no more then the gnex gsm
[Nexus 4 General] katestar:
Just got the device now, the touchscreen feels weird and I know it is a new type of capacitive screen but it won't recognise my fingernail like my s3 does, does anyone else have problem like that? Also the device seems very fast and it does get warm, not as warm as old exynos galaxy s2 but definatly not as cool as my exynos galaxy s3. It is how ever faster than my s3 in every way. But the touchscreen doesn't feel unresponsive, but definatly isn't picking up parts of my finger me s3 does.

Screen wise I can't be subjective as every smartphoen o have ever had, HTC desire, galaxy s2 and galaxy s3 all had amoled screens. I have used oled screens for almost 3 years so every LCD looks washed out to my eyes. Although the nexus 4's screen colours looks exactly like the nexus 7's although the n4 yellows are a little more saturated. Oh yeah and it is ok ok extremely more sharp than my s3.
[Nexus 4 General] dabomb224:
I just checked and my Galaxy Nexus's screen doesn't recognize my fingernail at all, which makes sense to me because I'm pretty sure that your nails are fairly non-conductive.
[Nexus 4 General] Jrob2k:
I know everyone is worried about how slick the phone is, especially now that its getting cold and dry hands + glass = 0 friction. I used to drop my s2 and later on my galaxy note (more due to size and the aluminum battery cover i purchased) a lot and found that the invisible skins help really well with grip. I've ordered the bestskinsever full body skin for the N4 and imagine that would help a lot. I also have a roll of egripz tape that i use if i notice i'm dropping something a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] Allanitomwesh:
With your nails? Sounds ambitious to me.

GUYS,STOP SHAKING YOUR PHONES. SERIOUSLY.

The drop test is welcome.

Anyone blasted music from Poweramp/Playerpro?

Flac format or 320kbps mp3 preferably. More expensive the headphones the better.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
It's a complete fingerprint magnet front and back....
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
what kind of tasks make the phone warm?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
SERIOUSLY, it's not just when shaking the phone. It's when moving it. Otherwise i would never have noticed.

When i buy a new phone there is no shake test it has to pass. It rattles!
[Nexus 4 General] katestar:
Thanks, I guess I must be spoilt by the galaxy s3 and s2's over sensitive screen.

Just playing about and got a basemark es2 score of 59 on this device, that is the benchmark maced put. On the nexus 7 it only got 20fps and on the exynos 4412 s3 it's Mali 400mp4 only got 37fps. What I am noticing is that I am yet to see the second or third core turn on at all on system tuner. Unlike on my s3 and nexus 7 where the 3rd and forth core are on a lot of the time. As for battery, it is extremely early to say but it seems to be about on par if not slightly better than my s3. Tbh the s3 and n4 seem to drain about as fast. Sorry about spelling, using the n4 and it feels a bit strange to type on +in a good way)
[Nexus 4 General] Scoutamis:
Ugh that's a gianttttt bummer...oh well I'll suck it up lol
[Nexus 4 General] wynand32:
Someone do this: open the camera app (so the autofocus mechanism engages) and see if the rattle still happens.
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Shaun, You have N4 on Three and I want to find out how it can handle DC-HSPA+??? I've checked here http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Coverage and You should be covered with Ultra-fast Internet. Could You do few (in and outdoor) 3G(H+) SpeedTest's please??? It should go DL~20Mbps.

N4 can be a beast on DC-HSPA+!! :)))

Many thanks
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hi

Tried that, someone suggested it yesterday. It still happens which makes me think its the accelerometer
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hi

I had it on Three until yesterday. After two hours on the phone to their foreign call centre, being cut off a few times etc. i went into the local store

and they cancelled the contract for me. I got no signal in most of my house....

It's back on T-Mobile now. So slow(Ish) network but i can make calls :o
[Nexus 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Thanks a lot mate!

T-Mobile should have DC HSPA+ up and running any time soon so watch your SpeedTest and let us know please.

I've sold my SGS2 today and now waiting for 2nd batch....
[Nexus 4 General] rbrucemtl:
It's the plastic volume rocker? hold it with a finger and move the phone... does that help?
[Nexus 4 General] mintvilla:
ive just come from the S3, i too also hated the back of the S3.... while it is a fingerprint magnet, its nothing like the back of the S3, much much nicer
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hi

I know it's near impossible to read all these pages. But just to cover it again.

It is not the volume rocker.

It is not the power button.

From limited camera tests it's not the shutter.

Waiting for the first brave person to take the back off.....after reading this (See below) it's not me :/

Design Minuses

Bolted in battery - The defining line between “Operator Replaceable” and “Qualified Service Technician” is the use of tools. The Nexus 4 not only requires a screw driver, but the plastic tabs on the edges will break if removed improperly. Once those tabs are broken, signal quality will be lost from the connection with the Spring Antenna Connections.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
I'm really looking forward to this phone, however there are 2 unknowns I want

O2 UK to release DC-HSDPA across the country. (Rumour is, very soon)

And wireless orb - price and availability is nowhere to be seen! - as I really want it with my phone.

Other than these 2 niggles, I'm super excited for my N4 to arrive.
[Nexus 4 General] Hydro8:
If someone have some questions, i've got mine :)
[Nexus 4 General] :
Can you post linpack scores, want to see if even that benchmark gives low numbers, and how is the browsing experience, I'll probably use Dolphin anyway but good to know, really can't wait to get mine! Anyone besides shaun getting rattling?
[Nexus 4 General] Hydro8:
If i do it right :

single thread : MFLOPS 71.745 1.18seconds

multi thread : MFLOPS 201.033 0.84seconds
[Nexus 4 General] raze599:
Received it today. Just tested GPS.

OH MY GOD!

My Desire HD took ages to get to 5 satellites in here. As soon as I turn on the app on the Nexus 4 it finds 22 -.-
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Glonass is nice eh....;)
[Nexus 4 General] yinkus:
earphones

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, does this come with earphones?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
GLONASS :)

The more I read, the more I love.... waiting impatiently for mine.
[Nexus 4 General] Hydro8:
Yes in ear earphone
[Nexus 4 General] alphasports:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
No it does not come with earphones.

Not sure why someone has posted otherwise.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Because it does. I have earphones (french nexus 4).
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
No, it doesn't.
[Nexus 4 General] raze599:
Can you please post a picture of them? Not sure why Google/LG would choose to include earphones in certain shipments and not in others.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Pics or it never happened.
[Nexus 4 General] raze599:
Is it just mine or when you have yours plugged in and you move the connector slightly, is there a (quite disturbing) sound coming from it?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Merde.
[Nexus 4 General] florian3000:
Completely merde.

Do these have a mic and controls?

Can anyone please tell me which earpieces with control/mic WORK with N4?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Yeah mine does. Not as disturbing as the sound the charger makes when you actually turn the phone on and touch the screen while charging.

I'm using my old HTC desire HD charger as the gnex one was just as bad.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
I will see if i can run a benchmark. From what i can tell after the initial google update when you turn it on the scores are far better than the Optimus G now?

As for storage i have 13GB left after filling with all the apps i use and a handful of photos taken....
[Nexus 4 General] PeritoX:
hi, can you please check if it overheats? Many reviews posted about possible overheating problem with Nexus 4, specially on heavy 3G use, long phone call, or long time with screen on.

Can you test this please.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
I loved the GNEX. I dropped it all the time and it never broke, the screen never scratched etc. So my expectations were pretty high.

I think google have priced it right for what it is. It's not the massive upgrade i thought it was going to be but still a decent bit of kit.

I think the verge scored it about right. I was hoping for more but i'm satified.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Sadly, nope! Check out the scores on the updated firmware here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w/

:(
[Nexus 4 General] jazzy:
Being from o2 does it carry any of there software branding or is it just pure google stock fw?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Overheating is one thing it doesn't do. I have been on a call for over 40 mins with nothing like the heat the GNEX kicks out.

Also browsing the web has been fine. I have even had a good game of temple run which would make my old phone get uber hot, but the Nexus 4 barely got hot at all.
[Nexus 4 General] Carter07:
hi, please can you run GLBenchmark 2.5 two times to see if the phone gets hot.

thanks a lot!
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Ok, my eyes have now got full blown aids from all the images on the screen.

I'm starting to think these phones are throttled to death as the temperature gets warm, but not what i would call hot.

On a side note that knight is a complete badass, running around slashing stuff like a complete boss.

scores to follow when the 2nd run finishes.
[Nexus 4 General] herzau:
post scores of 2 runs, please.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Ok i don't know which of these are of use. but here are all the Egypt scores: (I'm sure they will mean more to you than me)

GLBENCHMARK 2.5 EGYPT HD

C24Z16 = 4139* frames 37fps

GLBENCHMARK 2.5 EGYPT HD

C24Z16 offscreen 3046 frames 27 fps

GLBENCHMARK 2.5 EGYPT HD

C24Z24MS4 2637 frames 23fp3

GLBENCHMARK 2.5 EGYPT HD

C24Z16 fixed timestep 34937 msec 32fps

GLBENCHMARK 2.5 EGYPT HD

C24Z16 fixed timestep Offscreen 46970 msec 24fps

The others are either Egyptian classic or triangle throughput. Tapping the back of the phone to see if it's hot makes it rattle which is bumming me out....
[Nexus 4 General] NexusDro:
Is the rattling sound coming out from the camera? Could be the autofocus mechanism.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I'm pretty sure it is plastic just like the back of the Nexus 7. It just has a rubbery feel to it.
[Nexus 4 General] mmm286:
Hi

Could you say me how faster is the shutter camera?

Is very important to me

Many thans and sorry for my english!
[Nexus 4 General] ugotproblemz:
or maybe rattle is due to vibration motor???

anyways rattling IS NOT good =[
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
It's really hard to tell. In fact without taking it apart there is no way to tell, it's a shame the back isn't removable.
[Nexus 4 General] Carter07:
Thanks!

Results in the first and second run were the same?

Compared to galaxy nexus it was hotter?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hi -

Shutter speed is good, more than capable as a camera on a phone.
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
I would say take the screws out from the bottom and check it out but u just got it its up to you
[Nexus 4 General] mmm286:
Thanks.I'm trying to make photos with my S2 to my kids and is impossible!!

Thanks again
[Nexus 4 General] theguitarman94:
Need to wait for more people to get the phone to see if they have the rattling issue. That will be very frustrating for me. Could of just been a bad batch that O2 had but you seem to be the only one with the phone at the moment!
[Nexus 4 General] Hydro8:
No problems for mine :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Shaun, overall impression of Chrome vs Chrome on any other device you have used or the stock Android browser. Is it more fluid than on other devices? Any lag issues like it has been known to have?
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Chrome seems really polished now. I had it on the gnex from an early beta, so have seen it from the beginning.

No lag at all so far and it ships as the stock browser. It's a definite improvement
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Good to hear. It is nearly unusable on my N1, but I love the sync between the desktop. Thanks for all your quick responses.
[Nexus 4 General] alphasports:
Can't wait to get mine...HTC One X+ that is.

Flashed my Gnex to 4.2 today and it rocks; based on Shaun's comments I'm going to wait for an HTC to show up on Kijiji while continuing to enjoy my GNex.
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
Shaun any info regarding battery life/impressions on it. I know no one will have the same usage meaning no one will have the same battery life. But can you give an indication on screen-on time as well as total time? I know you only recently got the phone, but am interested in battery as some reviews said it was bad.
[Nexus 4 General] shadyshaun:
Hello,

The battery in my opinion is amazing. I'm really pleased with it. I took it off charge at 8am, so nearly 12 hours ago and the battery is on 79%

Screen on time admittedly is just under an hour. But that's with brightness on full, wi fi and Bluetooth on and quite a few phone calls.

I'm not sure if there was an issue with early test handset batteries or the update pushed out on release date has helped. But the battery is anything but bad.
[Nexus 4 General] raze599:
Shaun have you unlocked/rooted yours yet? I did it about an hour and a half ago. Piece of cake compared to my old Desire HD :D
[Nexus 4 General] danielsf:
How would rate heat production as my n4 is getting disgustingly hot after using stress test for a minute. The cpu temp got to 70c, and was throttled with in about 10 seconds of the stress test starting to about 1.1ghz. I'm sorry but I hope this is a software fault has these temps are crazy. My galaxy s3 quad core overclocked to 1.8ghz doesn't get that hot that fast. Could someone else please try it, download system tuner, and stability test, run the cpu stability test in background and open up system tuners cpu page to watch how fast the cpu temp rises.
[Nexus 4 General] Hydro8:
Yes battery is very good. I play with it since 2hours and i lost only 10%.
[Nexus 4 General] timlambo:
Anything will be a piece of cake compared to htc. Htc is good phones, but a little hassle to unlock.

Also thanks for the reply shaun. That battery stats seems quite good to be honest. I am happy with 4h of screenon time at the moment.