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[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
with some hacks in Surface Flinger, I actually managed to get surfaces flinger initialized, and now boot animation is working so there might be still chance :) .... it crashed later on in multimedia though, so still plenty of work.

But yeah, would be nice to back port some 4.2 things, though it might be easier to move 4.1 surface flinger to 4.2, at least if graphic drivers proof to be main issue for upgrade...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] DannyBiker:
Any idea on how simple users like me can help beside beta-testing when the time will come ? Are there devices that we might need to check out as they may help us with this port ?

Thanks !

EDIT : also, I imagine that after some point, you'll share your work with pershoot.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] C-o-M:
Can you tell me what you've changed?

I don't think that this will be easy. There are so much changes in surfaceflinger 4.2, especially the interface has changed. You would have to port the hwcomposer interface from 4.1, but leave the rest of the interface unchanged. Otherwise the rest frameworks/native breaks.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
Agree here. My motivation for surface flinger port was a) this effort could be useful also for other devices which were left behind for 4.2 upgrade. b) while new Surface Flinger has many changes, lot of them are related to new multi screen functionality. That could be stubbed on api level (binder interface doesn't actually have that many changes). I bet many ppl would prefer to have 4.2 functionality, and loose HDMI functionality.

Problem I can see is that we don't know how many components we would need to port like this. Seeing now crashes in Audio Flinger, this can be lot bigger issues. There is new bluetooth stack in 4.2, replacing Bluez. If those close code binaries are using Bluez and same api does not exist in 4.2, we're in trouble.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] C-o-M:
Thanks. I'll try do redo that.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
Let me know if it works for you, or I can share code...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
Actually it is working! Sorry I have just hour a day to play with this, that's why sporadic progress. Anyway after stubbing audio flinger and one call in dalvik, I managed to boot it. It's not usable since, since phone app crash report is all the time in the front. But UI is there. So that hack from surface flinger seems to be work after all :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] C-o-M:
That's awesome. Do you have a diff for me? Or even a git?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] DannyBiker:
Slightly edited the title as you started messing around with it, although we all know it's just "to see where's it going" for now...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
Need to still sort one thing about status bar, whole UI is in phone mode (status bar with soft keys in the middle, and notification bar at the top) and then I can share install package. Ui and wifi works fine, bluetooth and audio does not work. And I still have some issue with storage mapping. This has now new layout thanks to multiuser support.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] DannyBiker:
OndraOrg, I think you need to read a bit about 4.2 : Tablet UI is gone, Phone UI has been pushed to all Android devices.

See this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...just-like-a-giant-phones-and-thats-fantastic/

;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] C-o-M:
I'm not interested in the install package. I'd like to get the source code to experiment on my tab 8.9.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
OK I will clean code and get you diffs.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] OndraOrg:
Here are my patches.

Dalvik patch will get you around storage issue in vm. You can remove it once you fix your boot image

framework-av will patch you crash with audio, though it will make audio not to work. Not sure if you will need this for your 8.9 tab

framework-native will patch you surface flinger, so it works with old binaries
[Galaxy Tab 10.1v Android Development] C-o-M:
Nice. Thought it was more to change.
[HTC Incredible S] Derrick21:
I wasn't able to access venom hub on the rom vipervivo these 2 days ... Is it only me or others too ? Any solution ?
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Yeah venom hub has been down the past day or two

The team are trying to get it back asap

Sent from my Nexus 7 using the xda app :)
[HTC Incredible S] Derrick21:
Oh okayy :) thanks for the confirmation dude :)
[HTC Incredible S] gilmerd:
venom hub

Thanks for letting us know about venom hub status..appreciate you keeping us informed.
[HTC Incredible S] H.e.S.a.M:
venom hub now is open
[HTC Incredible S] itamarbs:
pls help, stuck in a loop with venom hub login

Hello, i am stuck and cannot access venom hub, i get the "you need to activate your account, i dot see any mail, nither in my spam, so i cant chk for correct mail. It stuck in a loop. How can i recover from this??
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
The venom hub has changed now, you set up your venom account for exclusive venom features on top of what is already offered. Unfortunately it's a feature that's only available on new updates if ViperOne, ViperX, ViperS etc, I believe there are no plans on bringing it to vivo at this stage.
[HTC Incredible S] serdarakpinar:
How to reset password Venom account

HTCSensation cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
Which device? If you have a sensation then please post in the ViperS thread
[HTC Incredible S] serdarakpinar:
Ok. Thanks :)

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[HTC Incredible S] Fernonet:
I have a Sensation, the system (Venom HUB) is asking me to put my password but I've tried and it says it's the wrong password. I can't post nothing in the forum since I don't have my 10 posts, so I can't find another way to adress this matter. Could someone please help me out? Thank you guys.

---------- Post added at 03:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 AM ----------

Ok, so here I found the answer to my problem: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2680161

Thank you and hope this helps others.
[HTC Incredible S] rumaro:
I have a HTC One X+ and don't remember my password. Creating another account didn't work, because it is linked to the first created account.

So how can I retreive the forgotten password ?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XFXF0rce:
Hello, everyone.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 and would like to install a custom rom on it, but before I do that, I need some clarification about backup, just in case I feel a need to change back to the default rom.

I downloaded and purchased Titanium Backup and did a ''Backup all user apps + system data'' on it, this is saved on both my SD card and on my PC.

I also downloaded ROM Manager and did a backup via the Recovery mode, this is saved on both my SD card and on my PC as well.

My question is, if I now download and install a custom rom on my phone but end up not liking it, will I be able to use this backup to get my phone to the exact state as it is in now? All my apps, contacts, settings etc?

Thank you.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ausboy 2011:
you can restore everything back to the way it was except the modem. so if u do flash a different fw and want to go back take Note of modem and when u restore old Rom flash back modem via recovery and all should be good :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dounowhoiam:
Only just yesterday Google Music was introduced into countries outside the US such as the UK, something I have been looking forward to for some time, however the free music (search free google play music) is shown as paid, does anyone know whether or not this is exclusive to US customers or is Google got a bug on it hands? :(

Thanks
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rushabh62:
Plz can anyone provide me the Jellybean rom link for Droid incredible 2 on which GSM works with DATA and also how to install it.

My phone is rooted.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Did you not look in the development section? It's right there. It's called something about Global CM10. Do a little searching next time.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Read? What's reading?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ericsdeadinside:
Was ist das "reading"
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
How many reads would a readchuck read if a readchuck would read chuck?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Triscuit:
Wow I had issues reading that...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bsmitty83:
I'm not sure if there is a jellybean rom with working GSM data, dkstunnas global jb builds still don't have it or at least that's what the OP states, im on cdma so idk firsthand

Sent from my Incredibly still working
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] CryoVII:
Trolling well deserved lol :good:

But to be on topic, this is what I would try out first. Just installed over ParanoidAndroid and it seems to be running better

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1934288
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kwick85:
5 read chucks
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] YemenDroid:
I'm useing jb ROM,dkstunnas global jb, but GSM data not work
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Then post in the development thread for that ROM.

sent from Incredible ViperDIX
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] gtdtm:
I think he was just commenting on a gsm rom, but noting that data doesn't work. It didn't sound like a request for help to me. He was replying to the previous request.
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Many are going bla bla bla about only having limited storage options .... well 11gb to be exact ! .... So what do you think - are you rejecting this masterpiece for this sole reason as of now ?

To me it ain't a deal breaker even 8gb nexus sells !
[HTC Droid DNA] zetsumeikuro:
Of course the 8GB Nexus 4 will sell! Dirt cheap price for a top of the line device with no contract = win. For me the storage isn't a huge issue, mainly the locked bootloader and tons of VZW crapware on the phone. Who knows if HTC will offer the dev unlock for this device..They have been bending over to Verizon a lot as of late. Hopefully this doesn't turn into the old troll Rezound forum.
[HTC Droid DNA] jonah1234:
I'm definitely still purchasing it. 16gb is enough.

Sent from my CM9 HTC Thunderbolt from Tapatalk 2.4
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Exactly i will also be getting it soon enough if all goes well - even if it doesn't have much development its okay as i believe HTC can be trusted with updates at least for their flagship and 2gb gives enough room sense ! - am a great fan of sense widgets cheap market replacements can never substitute the original feel .

Moreover i don't play games so - couple of games plus songs amendment your memory is freakin full argument doesn't stand for me !
[HTC Droid DNA] jonah1234:
Yeah I love sense but I would also love to have like venomrom or viperrom

Sent from my CM9 HTC Thunderbolt from Tapatalk 2.4
[HTC Droid DNA] Afro Samurai:
For me it is but that's just me. On my rezound I currently have 1gb free on internal storage and 3gb free on a 32gb sd, so for me I'm using alot. On the flipside, phone does sound like it will be a beast.
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Yeah its understandable different people have different use cases !

Btw can anybody tell whether an unlocked version will be available any time soon ?
[HTC Droid DNA] Afro Samurai:
But I'm starting to think I may have to change how I use my phone though as it appears adding your own sd card might be getting phased out.
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Well in my case i got used to it fist one x and now this ! All these years i have had my reasons to avoid Samsung phones - guess that played a vital role .
[HTC Droid DNA] Afro Samurai:
I hear you, this is off topic but love the Ezio avatar. Are you playing the new one?
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Lol you know what i created an off topic thread for dna following the traditions and i am myself spamming other threads going off topic !

Nah am waiting for pc release
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
It'd be fine for me now - I only need to put apps on it. What I'm worried about is if it will be enough for the next 2 years. I can see a lot of games and apps getting substantially bigger if they take advantage of the adreno 320.
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Mate if you game a lot then am afraid 11gb is too small even by todays gaming standards and like you said if newer games are to take advantage of all the horse power under the hood then i suppose we are going to find it very difficult to fit in least two decent games !
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
I have to try to figure out how much I will want to. It's tough to tell as I don't like most games out now, but if Assassin's Creed gets a real pc like release like GTA3 etc then I might want to a decent amount. Then again, maybe the controls on the phone will be annoying and I won't ever really want to and could get by with N64oid in situations where I have to sit around for a bit. I'd feel dumb giving up the amazing camera and screen if I don't end up using more space. I miss the good old upgradability of desktops and laptops.
[HTC Droid DNA] jmichaels1982:
I dont know why people are saying that

The general theme in this particular forum is that the sd card slot is getting phased out. How exactly did people come up to that conclusions. Samsung note II will have a slot supporting up to 64 gb straight out of the box. So does the s3.

The nexus line has long kept to that tradition because google like ppl to use their cloud services.

Just because HTC decided to bend over to verizon , doesn't mean that its the new technology standard.

Between limited data and limited storage , i feel like they are really suffocating the user here.

What amazes me is that we keep moving backwards as time goes by because of corporate greed.

we lost unlimited data and now space on our phones and all happening legally and we sit and just watch.

I dont see any benefit what so ever from limited sd card capacity. it has no stability or performance impact at all.

They said lets limit data to protect our network, and users swallowed it , now what is their rationale for limiting the sd card?
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
Verizon taking away unlimited data wasn't them trying to be evil, it was a business decision that allowed for them to quickly expand a 4G network that will be anywhere 3G was by the end of next year. If people still had the same unlimited data plans, verizon wouldn't have been able to spend as much on the network upgrades, and the 4G network might had speed issues by a lot of people using it as their home internet. Everyone complains about Verizon being expensive, but then wishes other networks had coverage and speeds of verizon. Considering how much people use and rely on their smartphones, their plans aren't that bad.

Now if you go into the old days of all the networks charging people for texts which literally take up 0 resources, that's a different story.
[HTC Droid DNA] treadwayj:
maybe, just maybe (and no i will not be holding my breath), once vzw gets their 4g fully deployed they might bring unlimited data back
[HTC Droid DNA] Icyman:
You're kidding, right?

As a loyal Verizon Wireless Business customer, I'm completely dumbfounded. One of the main reasons I left the iPhone was due to no SD card.

On my Rezound, the internal storage is FULL with apps only and the 32GB SDHC is half+ most of the time. HD video and 8mp pics will fill up your storage fast. Love it or hate it, the Rezound can replace my laptop 95% of the time. That's freedom baby!

I guess if you only use your phone to call, text, web searches or simply to show off to your friends then this is the perfect phone for you but if your phone is a business necessity rather than a show pony then you will agree that the numbers just don't add up. I thought it odd that Verizon promotes their phones with adds about streaming movies over the 4G LTE network and at the same time eliminating the unlimited plan. Do they really think people will spend $10 in data charges to watch a movie? We would switch to another network tomorrow but only Verizon has the coverage we need even though we have unlimited data grandfathered in on most of our phones.

I want a 1080p phone just as bad as everyone else but this defies all COMMON SENSE!!!

Maybe I'm only one person but I will only reward a business with my cash for giving me what I want and need.

Just say NO...
[HTC Droid DNA] flaring afro:
I can see them (or another carrier) within a few years having a 4G LTE home plan that's unlimited for all of your devices. Then you just put your phones on and some mifi hotspot devices in your home. Verizon has already mentioned that they want to move away from FIOS to something wireless because of the expense of setting up and maintaining the cords. This is all I'd need since I never use cable anyways, and within a few years I'd bet almost all channels have their own internet live streaming and/or watching shows when you want. Were already getting there.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
Not sure but I heard it's VZW's fault because they force HTC to have low mem with no sd which means using clouds which means using data and some don't have unlimited which means more money for VZW.

Also they do sell usb to micro usb cords to plug your usb into your phone as an external harddrive I guess and store games on there. Just plug it in when you want to play a game I guess. The thing is don't know if DNA supports this. I know GSIII does as well Note II I think.
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
It's a serious downside, but it won't completely turn me off the phone. I was actually debating getting a Nexus 4 8GB, and after using my Nexus 7 8GB I could find myself getting by. The biggest issues though are creating backups when flashing different ROM's, as the backups are 4-5GB.

Maybe all of us with unlimited data plans need to show Verizon that their forcing HTC to have only 16GB is going to cost them! Haha
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
I just checked my nandroids on my Rezound, it checks in at 1.02gb. That is a full sense Rom. What device has 4-5gb backups? Really, just curious.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
Better to get the phone if your planing on keeping unlimited but don't if your not keeping unlimited.
[HTC Droid DNA] joe_the_man:
16gb really?! 11gb usable?! Soooo stupid! I was extremely disappointed when I heard this. I already had my pennies put away to buy this phone but not anymore. My 25gb usable on my hox is always full, now I'd have to cut it by over half?! Not gonna happen. Definite deal breaker for me. Hopefully they release an international version with a micro s.d. slot or at least 64gb onboard storage!
[HTC Droid DNA] Sheldor1967:
It's not an issue for me. Play Music has 7000 songs in the cloud and I never have a problem streaming. Dropbox handles all my storage needs and I don't game on my phone so that's not an issue...

As for unlocking it, HTC seems to be doing that so far, so I don't think it's an issue...
[HTC Droid DNA] ripster:
I'm going to wait it out because I think they will hear those who say it's not enough and come with a 32gb or more. I have a 64gb in my rezound with about 22gb free. The sd card slot would have made the small battery work for me but with both I think this flagship phone is not enough for me to switch.
[HTC Droid DNA] boodies:
If you install a lot of apps, and big ones I would try to steer clear from any phone, not just htc without micro sd support. I mean 16 gigs.. that goes away really fast considering the system and bloat takes a lot of that. Come join the dark side ^_^
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
More importantly those who play games ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] bhags8:
Was very interested in this phone as well as the Nexus. But not now. No micro SD slot and no extra batteries is a big no no. The battery will probably be average at best on this phone. 11gb of storage is nuts, what are they thinking????
[HTC Droid DNA] ShayonX:
16GB without expansion is Bad.

HTC is on a downhill ride I believe they should try to spice up deals with features not Handicap their Flagship with SAD disadvantages.

:mad:Moreover the 2020 mAh Battery will also prove to be the DNA's Achilles heel!!!:mad:
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
My backups include apps, since I don't install them to the MicroSD card.
[HTC Droid DNA] dalex7777:
Bump. A stable Viper/Venom ROM on this would be awesome. But I am also seriously looking at importing the Japanese J Butterfly. MicroSD slot trumps Wireless Charging.

Maybe by early next year, there will be a DNA+ with 64GB of storage like the One X+ ?
[HTC Droid DNA] jimm2:
I was really excited about this device when I first heard about it, especially after the Butterfly announcement showing that it had a micro SD slot. I thought I might finally be able to get rid of a dedicated GPS and MP3 player when I travel internationally. The screen size and upgraded hardware for headphones sounded perfect for this but alas, it's not meant to be.

It's difficult to understand why HTC in light of their current financial issues would allow this flagship device to be limited to 11.5 gb of storage with no potential to upgrade. Even the iPhone has upgrade options and the One X+ will now have 32 gb. To compete in the flagship phone space, it's an arms race so why would you allow the carrier to remove this desired feature from your arsenal. The only reason I can think of is HTC just doesn't have the clout with carriers needed to defend against this. How much it hurts sales, I'm not sure but I think it will have a negative impact based on the market positioning for this device. HTC can't afford that right now.
[HTC Droid DNA] Cyanogenmod7.2:
thicken lludrese

i eat massive amounts of spaghetti.
[HTC Droid DNA] Harry GT-S5830:
Awesome to know...?
[HTC Droid DNA] jonah1234:
You browse /b/?

Sent from my CM9 HTC Thunderbolt from Tapatalk 2.4
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
Hold on a second. HOW? http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICRO-SD-32...131956?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item564ee9ca34
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Lol micro sd 32gb for dna ?
[HTC Droid DNA] JefferyTeo:
HTC is following all the down hill trend Phones with high prices, I use to be a fan of HTC, Now i cannot find a high end phone from HTC that meets my liking...
[HTC Droid DNA] nrfitchett4:
Maybe it has an internal slot like some of those first wp7 devices. Has ifixit gotten a hold of one yet to tear down? I would throw a 32gb in there and be done with it.
[HTC Droid DNA] CJeep:
While not ideal in anyway, but if this supports USB hosting, why not a case the plugs in to the port and has either flash memory or an sd card slot? Major pain, but they do it for extra batteries so why not extra storage?

I'd buy one.
[HTC Droid DNA] geoff5093:
My mistake actually, I went back and the 4-5GB was the backup of the SD card, not the phone itself. My ROM backups are ~1GB as well.
[HTC Droid DNA] nikufellow:
Hope the international version deluxe brings some much needed changes - highly unlikely though i guess
[HTC Droid DNA] Thalinor:
On the Galaxy S 3, when taking video at 1080p its 3.2 gb per 30 min. The DNA has 11gb free after formatting and OS. Most high end games are 1gb+ with some like Bards Tale being 3.5 gb for HD graphics. Hell my Astronomy app takes 1.4 gb of space for sky charts. I just sold my GS3 and was going to buy a DNA off contract to keep unlimited data, but now its only offering 11gb FREE space I need to rethink the phone. Its also not waterproof like the international model. Such crap.

Without a SD, 32gb is the minimum I would get.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
I just realized I only use 5-6 gigs with my rez. So my DNA should be fine with storage.
[HTC Droid DNA] nkd:
Certainly not a phone for you. For me its plenty. I dont play games on my phone, even if I do shoot 1080p videos they are never 30 mins long, it is kinda awkward to hold a damn phone for 30 mins infront of your face with both hands.

I think it is 11gb free for user, A few gigs is reserved for apps, it is the same way on my rezound, where 2 and half gigs is available to apps and I still have 1 gig available of that.