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[About XDA developers] TruthC:
Overly complicated, just to ask a question

It's overly complicated to ask a question here. Reportedly, Google can now interpret CAPTCHAS better than I can too, though I've heard that user input identifying captchas helps in OCR processing. None the less, though grateful for the help, here I am posting from a Linux USB boot, trying to get ten posts.

I've already replied in another thread before I saw this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2284892&page=6

I'm not here to join a fraternity or be judged for not participating. There are better ways to build a community.

Peace.
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
We are not trying to build a community. There is already one in place. A developers community.

Now come on guys the ten post restriction is not that hard to do. All you have to do is look at the bigger picture and less about the question you want to ask. Never know, maybe in your reading you will answer it without asking.

Bat cave One
[About XDA developers] TruthC:
Dear Bat cave One,

Based on your denial, I question if any of this is getting through to you. I will try to rephrase after addressing your responses. See 1), 2), 3)

1) The above quote is asinine.

2) By default, this is your public portal because 'you' don't have another one designated for the public. Technically, it's an incorrect statement. In fact, the claim of developers class or developers privilege taking precedence here over the user class is dripping with irony. If, as you claim, XDA is intended to serve the developer class and not the public then when, if ever will that change? Are there no plans to develop a public portal?

3) In other words, you appear to be saying that the public UX hasn't really been developed yet. As far as I can tell, no other website has been designated for the purpose.

1) The above quote is facetious.

2) The vetting process which is designed to protect the developer 'guild' here is outmoded, IMO. Many people here have expressed the willingness to improve the system. In my other post, before I found this one, I listed several ideas on how to improve the user experience.

3) In other words, the big picture shows room for improvement. While XDA wouldn't exist without devs, it wouldn't exist without users either. Compare this to celebrities and their fans. As often noted, without one, the other wouldn't exist. Further, the success of the former depends on the latter, who gives feedback and reports bugs.

Best regards,

Truth C.
[About XDA developers] efrant:
We are looking into the CAPTCHA issue. Thanks.
[About XDA developers] bitpushr:
We have a tag system, it is used a little.

Our tag system has this functionality somewhat. http://xdaforums.com/tags.php?do=cloud

We have the "Useful Posts" in a thread which are highlighted on the sidebar. It is hard to guess the intention of the end-viewer to tell what might be a helpful thread for them.

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/

Google search does a pretty good job of this anyway, without making it more complicated by having more search engines.

Sure we will! Keep the suggestions coming! Usually we have thought about them already and continually try to improve the site.

As efrant said we are looking into the captcha issue. The 10-post rule is here for 2 reasons. The first is to deter spammers who love posting here. The second is to keep development threads clean from 'newbies' which is harder to qualify. Actually the 10-post rule isn't too bad if you consider some of the proposed alternatives... a competency test or manual voucher system.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Errr... never? First and foremost, XDA is a comunity for developers, not users. There is a reason this site is called XDA-

Developers

and not XDA-

Users

.

Who do you think were here first? Users or developers? That would be the developers. Without users XDA would still continue because of the developer community and the ideas of striving to innovate, create and improve upon mobile OS's. An extract from this post explains more on why XDA would still continue without users:

XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Like Logcats and crash messages. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix". And even Maybe help fix what is broken.​
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
Have you tried any other browsers such as Firefox, IE, etc? That very thing happens to me on N5 using Dolphin browser and I hadn't paid it much attention but since you've brought it up, perhaps this may be an issue with certain browsers. Currently, I'm not experiencing this on my PC using Firefox.
[About XDA developers] TruthC:
Thank you. I don't know that much about it but Ill keep it in mind. It's changing with cloud services for websites, AFAIK. I have a basic familiarity with the "old model" where most everything is "locally" contained on the web server; the database, PHP scripts, files. etc. But about API's for websites, I have no idea. Though there ought to be some cool innovations which cloud services are enabling for websites. Perhaps there's something useful out there for the purposes of what XDA is trying to accomplish. I don't know.
[About XDA developers] TruthC:
Perhaps for you..

In other words, it's also to slow users down and get them to search & solve their own problems. Perhaps this works well for you but not for me. After having some posts deleted, my count is back to 5. Rationalizations about how it's not so bad don't justify the tactic.

Suffice it to say that whoever deleted my poetry post has no sense of humor, nor an appreciation for art and culture. I had written a poem about the experience of bricking my device.

Perhaps an anecdote will serve to illustrate: In the 90's when I signed up for local IATSE in LA they had a call in system in which all members had to report for duty as often as possible to show their commitment. Getting past the busy signal and through to an operator often took anywhere between 15 to 45 minutes. My friend in the union, who vouched for me to get in, he had an expensive auto-redial machine which they used to get through. I gave up on that job because while at my day job I couldn't get through. And you know what? Last I heard, they're still using the same antiquated call in system. I guess it serves their purpose.

It is your privileges which are being protected. Unfortunately, your privileges are inconvenience. I hope you find a more equitable way.
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
I'm using 8.1 and I'm not having that issue with FF. I haven't tried Chrome though. Did you do a clean install of Win 8? If not, have you tired clearing your cache?
[About XDA developers] TruthC:
I'm guessing that it's because you signed up with Google, or Facebook, etc. I signed up with Google instead of creating a password. Sometimes it has logged me out.

Then when I visited the wiki page I needed a password. So I created a new password. When I did that it automatically logged me out. I had to reenter with my user name and password instead of authenticating with Google.

Did you sign up by using your Google or other online account? And then change your password?

Best regards,

Truth
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
Well you guessed wrong and I registered and sign in through XDA-Developers. ;)

I'm not sure with Chrome but in FF you can choose to save passwords for particular websites: Tools>Options>Security>(Check)Remember passwords for sites or you can choose to make a Master Password.

There may be similar options in Chrome.
[About XDA developers] darkshadow246:
Is it just me or is there a problem accessing the xposed modules section in tapatalk? When I try opening it, tapatalk just opens up Xda again instead of loading the xposed section
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Are you still facing the same issue? If so, I must assume it's an error on your side as I've just tried tapatalk, tapatalk pro and xda premium and not having that problem.
[About XDA developers] darkshadow246:
Yeah I tried it again. It opens up another Tapatalk window instead of loading the section. The problem seems to be there only with the xposed section. Other sections open fine
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
By any chance, are you trying to access the xposed forum by going to Android Development and Hacking > Xposed Framework Modules? As that's where the forum used to be located, the redirect could be causing the issue.

If you had tried it that way, try going to XDA Community Apps > Xposed General. If that isn't the problem then I have no idea what's wrong, unfortunately.
[About XDA developers] darkshadow246:
Works when I access it from there. Didn't know it got moved
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
Are your browsers set to clear cookies, or do you have any software that does that?
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
Perhaps, you have some addon that's not playing nice with this particular website for some reason?
[About XDA developers] Saalschlacht:
Hello, why i cant answer some threads? One of those is the philztouch Thread, and another is the Thread for unofficial carbon Rom for gt-i9295.

Gesendet von meinem aktiven GT-I9295... ;)
[About XDA developers] E.Cadro:
Please read this.

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Senior Moderator

Sent from my HTC One
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Suggestion:

There are many cases when a given device is split among different carrier/region groupings. For example (using a fictional phone name), there's a "Samsung S Note (AT&T)", "Samsung S Note (Verizon)", and "Samsung S Node (International)" set of forums. Each has it's own unique sub sections for "general", "Q/A", "dev", etc.

That actually made good sense for some samsung devices when the "international" and "US" used completely different chipsets (exynos vs snapdragon), but tends to lead to confusion (and bad searching) when all the devices are very similar. (For example, LG G2, HTC M8, etc)

While I understand the need for still having some separation (due to carrier/modem differences and slightly different firmware pre-loads), usually these devices have more in common than not.

The issue is compounded, I think, when a user NEW to a device is told to search - but they aren't told WHERE to search. So, their answer might very well exist, but instead of in the "Samsung S Note (Verizon)" section, they should be searching in the "Samsung S Note (international)" section. (...and so on.)

For example, I just purchased an HTC one M8 - it's my first HTC device, so I'm getting a lot of use out of "search". However, 99% of the answers aren't in the section for MY device (which is "AT&T HTC One (M8)"), but are in sections within "HTC One (M8)" or even "Verizon HTC One (M8)". Being that all these variations of the same device don't share a common searchable "root" (other than ALL forums), it's a PITA to search for something.

Possible solutions:

1. Create a common root for a device, it containing sections for the carrier/regional devices. For example:

Samsung S Note (no posts here - only sub-forums)

--- International Samsung S Note

--- --- General

--- --- etc

--- AT&T Samsung S Note

--- --- General

(and so on)

2. Go back to what I've seen on some of the lower traffic devices with an arrangement such as:

Samsung S Note

--- General (international)

--- General (AT&T)

--- etc

Thanks

Gary
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
heh - and a similar issue comes up with posting questions that might be (but might not be) carrier dependent. Given the quoted example, should the question be posted in "HTC One (M8) Q&A" or in "AT&T HTC One (M8) Q&A"? There's significantly more traffic in the non-carrier specific sections, but how would a user know if an issue is carrier specific or not?

On a side note... as a long time XDA user, I'm finding it extremely refreshing to have a device that's almost alien to what I'm used to. I'm literally having to go back to the basics to learn terminology that I'm not used to. RUU? Sounds like a noise my dog makes. SOFF? Sounds like an British person cursing at me. The point is: It's allowing me to better appreciate a tiny part of what a new user might be experiencing. Sure, I can search - if I knew what I should be searching for. Is this what a long time HTC user feels like when they buy a samsung device and everyone says "just use odin.. duh"?

Take care

Gary
[About XDA developers] kaiya215:
Alcatel one touch Fierce (Tmobile)

Can we pleease get a subforum

for the

Alcatel one touch Fierce (Tmobile)

definately needs its own section right now its the most reasonably priced and best selling tmobile android phone....

so far its rooted but we need to get some other developers all in one forum so that we can work together and get this

recovery ported so we can start working on roms
[About XDA developers] NightRaven49:
Is it possible to make our avatars be linked to off-website image hosting websites like imgur?

I am not a fan of blurry avatars.
[About XDA developers] E.Cadro:
When you add an Avatar in your control panel:

Option 1 - Enter the URL to the Image on Another Website

Are asking for something else?

------------------------------

Senior Moderator

Sent from my HTC One
[About XDA developers] NightRaven49:
When I do that, the avatar becomes blurry and I have no idea why... (my avatar)

idk

I'll try again later

edit: what I was asking was like if you place your image on some other website, and the Enter the URL to image option works like the normal BBCode

[img]insert image location here[/img]

instead of uploading and compressing the image to XDA's server (or whatever server the avatar images are on).

Or remove the file size cap
[About XDA developers] teorouge:
Hello, I think a fast way to dismiss notifications (other than opening, that is) would really be nice. I don't know, something like a popping-out-on-mouse-hover "X" mark near the number or something like that (notification shade should of course be a tad larger on the right)... I'd really appreciate that, hope I'm not the only one and you'll consider that. Thanks anyway! :)
[About XDA developers] lucianus_luciferus:
can not add my devices

if i go to control panel - edit your details

there is a box that says: start typing to find device

but no matter what i type it can not find anything
[About XDA developers] LordManhattan:
Yes, please. I hate it when I've been using the XDA/Tapatalk for a day or two and then I open the site on my computer, and well...
[About XDA developers] ZeeX:
Hi,

A forum for Tutorials and Guides on modding / cooking / developing would be nice, so people can find the guides and tutorials at one place.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Something like this >>> http://xdaforums.com/chef-central ?
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Another suggestion (for the forum site/server):

Add SPF and/or DKIM authentications to outgoing email notifications.

SPF is trivial to add and doesn't require modifying any email system... it's just a DNS TXT entry.

DKIM is a bit more annoying, as every outgoing email has to be "signed." I see that XDA uses postfix, so the following page would be helpful. (The instructions are for ubuntu, but they should apply for most postfix installs...) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix/DKIM

Take care

Gary
[About XDA developers] Jonas Cardoso:
Availability in multiple languages
[About XDA developers] Primokorn:
lol that's impossible... Use Google Translator instead :D
[About XDA developers] Octanium91:
I could not add My device in the profile settings. Motorola Razr MAXX (XT912)
[About XDA developers] Jom_o1:
Great if we could have these

Chat interface

Well I bet that all members here, recognized or not, can communicate better with a Chat interface like other Social Networking site..

This could be beneficial to all members here in XDA,

-- With Chat interface,you don't need to refresh your inbox oftenly to check if you have new messages..

SMS Notification

-- this could be great way to inform us that we have new notifications (via SMS), especially when we're Offline.. :)
[About XDA developers] NotATreoFan:
Chat options have been looked at in the past, and although there were several reasons we didn't move forward, the biggest was impact on server performance.
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Disclaimer: I didn't look too hard for the proper place to post this. I hope a kind mod will move the post to the proper XDA thread(s.)

Two issues (one leading to the other)... both are forum software issues.

First, usually in the "user control panel" where it lists subscribed threads, there's a little icon you can click to read new posts in that thread. When using the "XDA 2010" forum theme, those "new messages" links seem to be broken for some sections. For example, here are two of those links:

// this one works

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2737498&goto=newpost

// redirects to:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52972707

// this one does NOT work

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/mod-app-settings-v1-7-1-2013-12-15-t2437377?goto=newpost

// redirects to:

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/mod-app-settings-v1-7-1-2013-12-15-t2437377/post52954774

Notice how the second link redirects to a URL with "/postxxxxx" at the end? For some reason, that puts me to the proper PAGE in the thread, but not the proper post. I've noticed that this type of thing happens 100% of the time for posts in the XPosed Framework forums.

I ONLY experience this problem using (my preferred) XDA 2010 forum theme.

Second, when using the XDA 2013 (beta 1024) forum theme (because of the above problem with the 2010 theme),when currently at a top level device area (no threads, just subforums - for example: http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8) I can't seem to find any mechanism to search all subforums. (On the 2010 theme, there's a "search this forum" box that will search all the device subforums.)

Thanks

Gary
[About XDA developers] rootdefyxt320:
I noticed a lot of Retired Senior / Forum Moderators getting their usertitle changed into "Moderator Emeritus" I know what Emeritus means. Was this suggested by the Moderator Commitee?
[About XDA developers] mark manning:
These members were the pioneers of XDA. This title is meant to reflect and show our appreciation for all the things that they did over the years that benefited xda.
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
The "Account Currently Disabled" tag only appears when you're banned.
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
That reminds me... I haven't had an infraction over two years. Any kind moderator want to help me out? ;)
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Both of these could be arranged... ;):p
[About XDA developers] Videonauth:
Just want to share my thoughts about the captcha system. As a new user i came to XDA over Tapatalk, and now i find myself unabele to contribute on the go, means from my mobile. And if im Back at my PC i mostly have forgotten where and what i wanted to contribute.

5 Minutes between posts should be enough really, I know spam is a pain in the *** and you want to do everything to get rid of it. But this way you scare away a good bunch of maybe usefull new Members in this comunity.

Just my 2 Cents.

Cheers

Mike
[About XDA developers] kkh5:
Hey,

I'm a fairly new member to XDA and one of the things that bothered me was the 10 post requirement thing. I created my account originally since I needed some help with something with my kernel and ROM and wanted a reply on their respective threads. Unfortunately nearly every thread I went to, it said you need 10 posts before posting on a development thread. The problem is that if I can't post on a development thread it is likely that I will not get the answer I want in the general forum. Perhaps for the new users out there maybe put a restriction like 1 post a day or something instead of the 10 post requirement?

Thanks,

kkh5
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
As a new member, you are encouraged to READ threads before you post in them. For example, the very same thing you just posted has been posted in this thread about 4 dozen times... and answered about 1/2 of the times.

Now, this is going to sound nasty... and perhaps it is... (though it's really not intended that way.) If it was my kernel that you had questions on, and I knew that you didn't bother reading threads before posting, I'd probably go out of my way to avoid answering your question. I'd find it extremely insulting that you want me to go out of my way to help you, but you aren't willing to spend 5 or 10 minutes to help yourself. That kind of person has no business downloading and installing custom kernels or firmware for a device.

Take care

Gary

Oh, and [MENTION=4184142]Jonny[/MENTION], was that just a cruel tease? ;) It's very difficult to maintain my reputation when I don't get chewed out by a moderator at least once a year.
[About XDA developers] kkh5:
Gary, I understand your point and I think that it is great that XDA tries to reduce spam, however (and I know I made it seem like a question) it was just more of a feedback of the experience I was having so far. I did actually spend some time looking through the development thread for the kernel and I could not find an answer to the problem I was having. When I was ready to post, I felt a little disappointed that I could not get through.

Thanks,

kkh5
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
You said you needed help, therefore we have the aptly named Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting forums. Why don't you post there in the meantime? Or you could always PM the OP and let him know your feedback.

The 10 post rule is there for a good reason and it won't go away, no matter how many new members complain about it unless a viable alternative is found, if you want to help find that viable alternative then we welcome your input - there is actually a thread in this very subforum for alternatives to the 10 post rule if you wish to post any there, however please do not use that thread to rant/whine about the 10 post rule as that will result in your posts being deleted as its not the purpose of the thread.
[About XDA developers] Goku80:
i know i might get flamed for this but how comes there is no xda app for the iphone in the app store? even though i am back on iOS now i still would love to find out what is happening here on xda and still contribute when i can..I know i can use the tapatalk app but it is not the same as the official xda one we have on android.
[About XDA developers] mark manning:
No reason to have one mate. This is primarily an android forum. In fact, 99.9% of iPhone threads are closed or deleted. So because of that it would impractical for us to spend the money and create an xda app for the iPhone.
[About XDA developers] kkh5:
Thanks, I did not realize you could private message people on this site so I will give that a shot and see if I get a response.

-kkh5
[About XDA developers] PG101:
Ok

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[About XDA developers] rootdefyxt320:
Is it possible for Forum Moderators to change post order? Thread Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53192240

I want to change the post order http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53192240&postcount=9 to be post #2.

Thanks.
[About XDA developers] eagleeyetom:
Done