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[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Personally I think the SGN sucks... really didn't like it hence went for the SGS2 instead... atleast that also got upto JB updates...

I personally think its a much better idea to invest in the nexus4 rather than a SGN or the 4x... because let's be honest... Lg is far from the best manufacturer out there... and the problem with the SGN is it pretty much flopped world over... esp in pakistan... only people its really popular with is the modders... so when it comes to resale... both phones have bad resale... tho you can pickup a new galaxy nexus for about 30k these days... if you can find someone coming then that's the best case scenario... otherwise wait for another month or so... the prices of the nexus 4 will def drop by about 5k in pak... only reason they high now is due to the supply and demand issues... being an LG the demand and value will drop quick... along with more supply due to the shortage being fixed to quite some extent and by next month should be gone altogether...

I mean if your willing to dish out 40k, then why not throw out another 5k and get the nexus or S3...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah agree with you.

Today went to Hafeez Center (A mobile market in Lahore), and purchased HTC One S from there :P

Galaxy Nexus was short and those who had it, they were charging around 44K or may be more than that and they advised not to buy it.

LG 4X, well again almost 99% shops advised not to guy LG handset, coz they do not have any resale in Pakistan. Even LG handsets were available on just couple of shops (from the shops which I visited).

Nexus 4 was around 50K, so didn't buy it.

The best option was HTC One S, so I went for it and bought it for 36K :D
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Isn't the One X supposed to be better than the One S...?? :what:

But regardless... congrats on your purchase... I'm not a big fan of HTC but hope you like it... but guess you will be having more activity in a different forum now ;)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Thanks bro :D

Well One S is quite good considering its price. It is really an awesome phone. One X was also available on some shops but was a little expensive, around 44K or may be more than that. My budget was max 40K.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
16GB?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yes
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Hmmmmm
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Was just wondering... as N4 is manufactured by LG and so is 4X then how is 4X a bad bet and N4 the best? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Because the 4x is a phone manufactured by LG AND updated and maintained by LG... the nexus is Manufactured by LG but updated and maintained by Google... and naturally Android being Googles own OS, the first phones to always get software updates will be Nexus phones rather than any other manufacturer...

Also from a pakistan aspect when you look at resale... LG in general has no market here... but because the N4 has the nexus brand attatched to it, more ppl will be willing to buy it... just like the motorolla brand here has no resale at all... but after the Razr came, it kindof reclaimed only the razrs value in the market like its previous glory days...

So from both resale and firmware updates and modding and features and hardware, the N4 wins... and if you can get it for the intl price then its a win win situation...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Agree. Infact lg brand ws not available on 90% shops which i visited. And one of the shopkeepers told me that ppl do not buy a handset on which lg is mentjoned. lol...

This is the reason i dint go for lg 4x, otherwise it is no doubt a giant as far as hardware is concerned.

And regarding N4, i guess it is more known as a nexus phone than an lg phone.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Hmmm.. The majority of people at my workplace have different OS's phones and pretty darn expensive one. And when I told them m getting "Google" Nexus 4, hey went like.. Google? No someone must have manufactured for them. I sed yeah its LG and they go like, "LG :-oooooo whatt r u saying.. u r buying* an LG? Eww who buys LG"

Now this thought haunts sometimes as mostly this is what ppl r gonna say u go out and sell N4.. regardless dey know abt the updates n stuff but still that doesnt help much in Pakistan. Here ppl r really happy using touch wiz and sense etc, unfortunately.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
lol yeah. Here ppl only go for big names, dont bother abt the updates, specs etc.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Yeah, bdw, there I see "Sent from my HTC One S" ;) haha congrats pal!
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
lol. thanks bro! Didnt u read my yesterday posts on this thread? yesterday i got this new pbone :D

I guess u were away from this forum yesterday? we were having some discussion abt which phone to go for etc.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Yeah I read it earlier today in morning at work and thought will reply later but forgot. Just saw the signature right now and thought to wish :D

Its a SEXY phone
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
oh okay. yeah man its an awesome phone really. loving it.

N4 ws a little too expensive for me, so out of other options found one s to be the best. And it is certainly one of the best smartphones.

very fast, responsive, no lags at all. And since i like using web on my phone, and its stock browser is more than awesome.
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Yeah it is. Sense has never been laggy unlike Touch wiz.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
yeah.

though i m using apex launcher just for a change :P to have one S and N4 tastes in one phone. :D
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Gr8. That looks cool :)
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Thanks mate!;)
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Dude use Nova Launcher... the extra features and gestures it offers are amazing... I was always a Launcher Pro fan... till Nova launched... do give it a try... and use the Prime version ;)

Also I just read that the One S Jelly Bean had already been released... so guess that worked out well for you... :)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q

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Over here, as with the other countries... a cellphone is just a status symbol... apparently anyone with an iphone has a Big Negro D*ck while, while people with a LG have a Tiny Asian one... lol... So if someone is that concious about what other thinks about their phones then yea, go for the run of the mill phone every tom **** and harry has... but if you get down to comparing them then you will blow the competition away every time...

I remember when I had myy Motorola Atrix 4G, when anyone would see it they would be like ewww wtf is that... then I would say look B*tch... show me an iphone with a fingerprint scanner, a lapdock, a media center, hdmi output and a 4inch screen, THEN eww me... lol ... the fingerprint scanner always blew everyone away... like noooo waaayyyy... good times...

Bottom line tho... generally a phone with great specs is fugly... like the Atrix was... but the N4 is a beast... AND its sexy as hell... all you need to do is put on a case or put a sticker on the back LG and your golden... IF it bothers you using a LG in public ;)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Sure will give it a try.

Someone told me that on Jb apex is quite good. so i installed this one.

Problem with launchers is that u cannot use htc sense widgets (which are quite good actually) with them. I have to install some other widgets that can work with launchers.

And yeah my phone has JB, and so far doing a great job. No lags, running very smooth.

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Well cant use the prime version. My current bank doesnt offer the debit card facility (only have ATM), and i dont like credit cards.

Once i wanted to buy the swiftkey keyboard and when tried to make payment with bank alfalah (had account there previously) debit card, it ws not accepted. I called their helpline and they said our debit card doesnt have the facility to make online purchases.

Now waiting for my current bank to offer debit cards with online buying facility.

The worst thing about htc (in my opinion) is their keyboards. For me it is quite hard to type on them. Swiftkey is quite good btw, but only 30 day free trial.

Now i m using some ICS keyboard which is better than htc keyboard, but still not the best.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I was thinking of switching my SGN with the N4...but ad the rumor mill's been activated, I'm hoping the X Phone has something decent to offer.

In a good price.

Trouble is, I won't have any relatives coming from abroad during the summers. And Pakistani sites will leech onto our wallets.

Sigh. For me, the time has come for the GNex.

sent from my mini tractor
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Better get a 4x in warrenty from LG store than HSN, why dont u guys wait for a month and atleast see what s4 is offering. U can then get the N4 or4x
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
In hafeez center (Lahore), cellmart.pk is giving lg 4x for 40K with warranty. And if i m not forgetting, it is brightex warranty he was telling me, but I m not sure.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Britex only deals for HTC
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah i have even checked their site and apparently no Lg device was mentioned there.

Anyway may be i m forgetting or he mistakenly said brightex.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Let's not forget when the s4 is launched, it will cost about 60-65k... and will take at least 4 months to drop down to around 50... that means waiting about 3 months to launch In pak... then 4 more months to become somewhat more affordable... so that's a bare minimum 7 month wait... more than half a year... then it will be why not wait for the next note 3 in sept... then the next nexus in November... so... you get the idea... unless your a millionaire and price isn't an issue... or don't have a issue waiting for the next 6-8 months... no point waiting for the S4 announent...

Let's not forget the main n4 attraction world over is the price tag... the s4 wont be less than $650...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q

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I think there is a very high chance cellmart is giving the same ghetto warranty like HSN... because officially there is no LG mobile anything here... definately can't be brightex, united, AT, MZ etc...

And you don't always need to "buy" the app... you get the pro versions by other means................. ;)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah LG is not even mentjoned on brightex site, checked it.

And what other means i can use to buy the pro app ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
You're kidding, right? Please tell me that you're kidding. :rolleyes:

Sense is the laggiest piece of rubbish I've ever seen! I've owned the Galaxy S1 and now I own the S3. Touchwiz never lags. I don't know whom you've been talking to but Touchwiz is really smooth. It's a lot smoother than 3rd party launchers, by the way. How do I know? Years of experience using Touchwiz. I've used Sense and it sucked; big time!

There's no match for the smooth experience of vanilla Android but I can assure you that Touchwiz doesn't lag. Yes, it's filled with bloatware but that doesn't automatically mean that it lags. Geez.

Rant over. :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] Jamal Ahmed:
Updated to 4.2.2 :D

Feels good to have a nexus :D
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Well, how will I deny if u request me so lovingly? :cool:

I am sorry to burst your little harlequin romance balloon with Touch wiz my sweetheart, but just open the Contacts or Phone dialer on TW and it will greet you with a 2 to 3 seconds wait before it loads up. Yeah that may be pretty darn fast for u...but not for me. As for HTC... do the same even with their single core Sensation XL and it wont even take a freakin seconds to load. It will load instantly. That's how fast Sense is and has always been. I have had s1, 2 and 3 and Touch wiz lags like anything. The out of box s3 lagged in the above mentioned basic functions. And of all the HTC devices, I have never encountered any lag on them. My One X showed some signs of lag but it was all over with a few updates.

Besides, screaming always doesn't make u right.. isn't it, Queen? ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
You're sending me too many mixed signals. I don't know how to react. Are you being nice or offensive? I have absolutely no idea. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
I am being, ummmm :rolleyes:, never mind :D
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Hey, I am not trying to ruffle any feathers, but I thought I was in a position to help.

My wife will be in the Lahore area at the end of April and if anyone wants a Play store nexus at cost I can try to help. Not trying to make money, just figured I could help someone get around those high priced retailers.

I think the cost is only 37k
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Go to an LG store they sometimes dont have phone on display but if u ask them they will offer u any LG phone beside n4 under direct LG warrenty.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Okay. But i have now bought another phone HTC one S.

Anyway thanks for this info.
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Wow. That's excellent. Stay in touch, mate! I have a couple of friends who badly want the Nexus 4. Rs. 37k for the 16 GB model, right?
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
So turns out my RMA also has the buzzing, plus slight light bleed... and I'm 99% sure every single N4 has the buzzing, but the people who say they don't have it, don't realize it...

Guess it makes sense why everyone hated LG... :(

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Yeah the 16 GB. But I can probably only get one, due to Google thinking I have ordered too many.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Ota is officially out in Pakistan
[Nexus 4 General] deelz001:
Pakistan zindabaad!
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I'm pretty sure the N4 doesn't have any such region specific updates... not even the Yakju and Takju like the galaxy nexus had... these are all JP40D as far as I know...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] sheraziqbal22:
nexus 4 wireless charger launch

what about if send wireless charger from google play store as well?
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
You asking if I can get the wireless charger too? Probably. Just would need to know in advance
[Nexus 4 General] sheraziqbal22:
Yes bring official wireless charger from Google play store I love to buy that. Not available in Pakistan I went couple of time to hafeez center and ask them do they have Qi charger and their answer always WO kia hota hae .
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Hahahaha okay, but I can only do this for one person. So it will probably be whoever is able to make it to wherever the easiest
[Nexus 4 General] sheraziqbal22:
that probably me and where ever in Lahore
[Nexus 4 General] harrisnehal:
Use the below link for QMobile Noir A10 Custom Rom.

Incredible fast, buttery smooth & stable without any lags or issue, try it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2151805
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Lol. Anyone in lahore having ballistic case or ionic case? I need a case out of those for my phone :(
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Well, not sure about these cases :D

But just saw your signatures, where did you get N4? From US or Pak? And how much did it cost you?
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
From US. Ordered two 16gigs in december and got in january. Total 773$ to google for price taxes and shipping. And 4k western union. One sold and one in use.

But still my question is unanswered :( i need any of these cases in pakistan.
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Told u, dont have idea abt the cases :D

And did u directly order these sets from pakistan? (If yes, mind sharing the website/procedure). I m asking coz someone here told me that we cant directly order it from pak, we need to have someone is the US.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
You JUST got a new phone... why are you still after the nexus...?? :-/

And I suggest you wait now since you already got one... wait till march to see the S4... the moto X will be in july I believe... but wait till LG fixes this God Damn buzzing... I may get rid of the second RMA as well...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah u r right. Just got the new phone. I was asking coz i wanted to get N4, but it was over priced in pakistan. Anyway its right, i ll keep using this phone now, it is an awesome phone as well. Never faced any issue so far, except the screen/display. One S display/screen is not good. But anyway overall a great phone.
[Nexus 4 General] omareziz:
yeah i would like to have it but can you estimate the cost i'll have to pay you after shipping charges?
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Ah, geez. I know I mentioned that a few friends of mine wanted a Nexus 4 but one friend just got a Nexus 4 and another is saying that he will wait for the next Nexus to be introduced at Google's I/O in May.

So, no orders from my side! :(
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Chances are there won't be a new nexus in may, just a white colour... and maybe more storage space... really doubt they will launch a new flagship google within 6 months... esp when the phone still selling like hotcakes which should continue for a while...

The new nexus will most def not be before sept...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Why would Google announce a new phone just when they are out of Nexus 4 supply issues..It doesn't make any sense..For a new Nexus we have to wait till end of 2013.

Right now get ready for a White N4 or a 32GB version of N4..
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
Google might announce the X Phone, as many rumors claim. But if its not a nexus, then no thank you.

My only worry is that how great is the difference between Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 Pro series and the 600 series...cause if the I key difference is the increase in the clock speed (and no efficiency in the memory or battery or anything else), then I'll gladly pass the X Phone.

But but but but but... They say that Motorola has good radios in their phones...useful for fetching signals et al.

Sigh. Dunno.

sent from my mini tractor

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Got a question, guys. Could you

- state which telco you're on, and

- how's the internet speed and signal strength/coverage? I'm wondering if I should move away from Telenor and head over to Ufone or Mobilink. Zong and Warid are out if the question.

I'm a prepaid customer btw...I'm not the postpaid type.

sent from my mini tractor
[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
^ I used ufone a few dyas back. I couldn't even load Facebook. Hence I also need guidance regarding which network has better (if not best) Edge services.
[Nexus 4 General] sheraziqbal22:
As far as mobile internet is concern I think mobilink is best I compare it with all networks its speed is better then all but bit expensive.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
So heres some interesting news... It seems that Brightex IS indeed selling the Nexus 4 with a One year warranty...
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
Are you serious? How much?
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
It actually depends on the area u r using internet services. Some would say mobilink has better speed and some wud say ufone or telenor.

Edge is now a very old technology. This world is moving towards 4G, and we r still on 2.5G (edge). So u r not going to get a satisfactory speed on any company's edge services.

I have used ufone, telenor and warid. Tried mobilink as well but that was 2 years back i guess, at that time their speed was quite poor in my area. But when i used the same connection on mall road, i got very good speed. Again area factor comes.

But anyway overall i think ufone has a better speed. And then comes telenor.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Lol ufone? No way... Telenor has the best speeds in most of areas in Lahore. Then mobilink.
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Looks to be listed at 50k
[Nexus 4 General] omer7:
Yeah telenor is good too. But the areas where i have used ufone, it offers a better speed. Not sure about mobilink now, as i said i used it couple of years before, dont have mobilink sim now :P
[Nexus 4 General] majin_vegeta:
Salaamz everyone I'm in the UK. But my wife is currently in Faisalabad. I wanted to ask which operator would be the best for unlimited internet. As Ufone do have a unlimited internet package which we use but I'm having too many problem's with them despite a tower being installed just outside the village. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] Fahad M.:
Try telenoe persona unlimited package. 4gbs for 600 per month.
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
Hey, Censura, are you still going to come to Lahore with a Nexus 4?

Because I have another friend who is interested...
[Nexus 4 General] JuGnO:
Assalam-o-Alikum everyone

Will be receiving my Nexus 4 during next week.

Using Android since it came out, and updating mine and my friends phones with new and improved stuff and helping them out since 2009 :)

got myself g1 still have it but not using it, then x10 using it right now, will be moving on to nexus 4 and inshAllah will have a great time.

Nice to see a home grown thread of our own country here :P

Regards
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
This thread's more active than the one for the Galaxy S3. That's why I come here. :p
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
That's cuz the S3 is a retarded fugly fone :rolleyes::D;)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] uronfire:
Hi guys,

I'm in the Uk and can't get back to Pakistan anytime soon. My little bro wants the nexus 4 . we are from Peshawar.

He couldn't find any N4 at Peshawar mobile shops.

What's the easiest and cheapest way to get an N4 in Pakistan.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] mzr7:
HomeShopping.pk I guess or shophive from my experience in pakistan.
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Holy crap did you guys read this...?!

Samsung confirmed ditching exynos for the S4...!! If this new processor easier to develope for id definately get the s4 rather than stick with th N4...

Tho its a shame they also ditching the Amoled... the black blacks it gives are too sexy for its own good.......

The link for those interested...

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
Doesn't the N4 USE the S4 processor? And why would samsung use an old processor?

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Yes, I still have the Nexus 4. PM me if you are interested. It won't be until the end of April though
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Yea its the S4 pro I believe in the N4...

How is the Snapdragon600 old again...?? It was JUST unveiled in the HTC One... I'm not saying the One X or S... the new one is just called the HTC One.

Maybe they saving the octacore for their tablets which makes sense... who the hell needs 8 cores in a phone...?!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q
[Nexus 4 General] DeadSOL:
That's a low blow, dude. Really low and completely uncalled for. I don't think I'll be visiting here anymore.

Okay, I'll send you a PM.
[Nexus 4 General] aeoveu:
I think they were joking... Considering the smiles inserted at the end of the post.

From what I read, it's summarized best this way: higher CPU shoes, and a slightly faster GPU clock speed (not a faster GPU...just the speed).

There isn't a lot of difference... It's more evolutionary than revolutionary. It's the Snapdragon 800 that you'd want to watch out for...

But remember - technology is always changing... But there isn't a huge difference between the S4 and the S600. Not huge enough to warrant a jump IMO.