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[Nexus 4 General] batano:
Merry Christmas everyone! MediaMarkt renewed his stock (at least in Mainz) i just got a call from them that my Nexus is ready but i already ordered at Google Play (5-6 Wekker i regret it al little but hey 50€ more or less is huge for me) i wont get mine till 2013 but best wishes for all of you!
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
I'm pretty sure Google is capable of locating your device if it connects to the Internet. But I don't know if they do this (maybe with police and lawyers included they will?)

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[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
They'll do it if you tell them to, no questions asked. They do the same if the DHL guy leaves your N4 package on the front porch and it gets stolen.
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
I am a bit curios about this whole Google can disable the device remotely thing. Did anyone actually try it?

And what do they need from you, only the IMEI? Which would be pretty ridiculous since you can call them and let them disable your friends phone ;).

And do I have to be logged in via my Google Account for this to work? i.e. is it useless if the guy who stole it makes a factory reset? What does it actually mean for the device is only Google able to activate it again? Is there anything official on how this works?
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
I guess you need to contact them using your Gmail address.

They already know the imei you don't need to tell them. And the imei never changes therefore a factory reset won't to anything. Also I wouldn't let them disable it, that's no use for you. Let them locate the device and call the police. And you get your device back. (as long as it's not already somewhere in Russia or so)

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[Nexus 4 General] jkoljo:
When you turn on a phone with SIM, it registers to a network, and the IMEI is needed in handshake process. If Google removes your phone's IMEI from the approved IMEI database, the phone does not work as a phone anymore. Additionally it is possible that the phone can be made completely useless, bricked, but that has to be coded in low level in the phone.

Only a very skilled person can change the IMEI code, so hard reset does not help. And I doubt that a regular thief even knows about ADB, let alone the low level stuff needed to change the IMEI.

When you contact Google to disable the phone, you have to give some kind of authentication details, order number, your social security number, or similar stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] laptopfab:
More on stolen Nexus 4

Thanks guys for the answers so far.

A few points:

- yes, the phone was bought from Google Play Store Germany. As said, I only have the order number (from the invoice on wallet.google.com)

- the police report has been done (even though it's terribly full of typos on the tech stuff, it was an old man typing there :rolleyes: )

- my gf is not german and she didn't have any insurance that covers theft, only a basic health insurance (so I think there's nothing that can be done)

- I tried to email	googleplay-support@google.com but I only got an auto response that advices me to use their form. The point is, from Italy I cannot access any devices-related form. If I go via VPN I can see the form, but I can't see anything useful there for my case

- Does someone have a better/more direct contact for Google?

Regards.
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
Thanks for the info guys. Can they really locate the device because that wouldn't be an easy "remove the IMEI from the database" thing to do I guess...?
[Nexus 4 General] jkoljo:
It is possible, but I think that they will not do that. Also it would not be more precise than about 500 m radius, and that is the best case scenario.
[Nexus 4 General] Peter1856:
yeah that's what I thought... And I really don't think the Playstore would be working with the police to get your phone back... They can't even sell you devices in a proper way :silly:

Just one more follow up. So what exactly happens when you call the playstore and ask them to "disable" the phone?

1. Will they simply block the IMEI so you can't use the phone as phone anymore (but everything else works) or

2. will they completely disable the phone (as in you can't use it for anything anymore, "bricked")?

thanks and enough OT now ;) Although it kinda is a feature for the N4 :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] jkoljo:
Sorry, I cannot answer that question. It depends on the low level code in the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
I don't think they even legally can, since it is your phone and not theirs.

It is actually you who would need to go to police and make a statement about theft. Then police could start investigations (if they want to) and netowork providers could blacklist IMEI (if they want to).

This is not in their force, it is something between you and your carrier.

While android theroretically has a "brick" privilege, I am not sure they are able to use it. And even then phone needs to get online first.

Frankly I think there are better ways to disable or track and recover your phone.

Carriers are the ones who instantly get to see the IMEI of the phone, serial number of the SIM card and fairly exact physical location of the phone.

They also get to see each number this phone calls or is called from. They also have all the previous phone IMEI this card was used with and another SIM cards used in those phones.

It is inevitable, that one or more of those cards are associated with real persons.

So police together with carriers could easily track down and recover the phone. Provided they actually care to be bothered.
[Nexus 4 General] Ysalamiri:
Ugh, do you believe this? They delivered six in MM Kassel. Six. Appearantly, pre-ordering on the 15th of November wasn't early enough to get one :'(

Guess I'll have to wait until the 15th of January to finally get my Nexus...
[Nexus 4 General] greenman18523:
draugaz is right. Just one more thing. Blocking/Tracking the IMEI is per country, so if it gets off Italy it's probably lost for ever, sorry man. Google is probably able to block certain phones from accessing it's services, probably based on the phone's IMEI or some other unique identifier, but it might be easy to alter the data sent with a custom rom or root access.

I wouldn't underestimate the capabilities of modern-time thieves, so they *might* be able to fool the OS to send different data to Google's servers but altering the IMEI to fool the Carrier is very hard and device specific, so it is almost impossible.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
If the phone ever connects to a Google server (And it will, why shouldn't it? Who uses an Android without Google? Also the thief will most likely sell it to someone who doesn't know it's stolen), Google can do nearly everything to the device. And I'm pretty sure google can enable GPS and track down the location to 5-10m radius. If they really would do this? I can't say, give it a try, you have nothing to loose. (Apple e.g. does this (although I'm not sure if you need to register the device with your account first))
[Nexus 4 General] jkoljo:
Yeah, but they would need some kind of a permission from the law enforcement to do that. And I bet they do not care that much :)
[Nexus 4 General] xLychee:
I'll be going to Media Markt Neumünster on the 27.12 (again).

It would be awesome if it would be there cause im going on vacation on 28th.

Although this time im not goint there to ask if my Nexus is there, i need a new dvd writer, mine broke down -.-

As always i'll post my new informations.

-Lychee
[Nexus 4 General] flakinarist:
...still waiting :(

I ordered mine on december 5th at 8am.

The delivery was scheduled on 5-6 weeks later. I hope it arrives until january 5th so i can take it with me home - otherwise my parents have to send it after me.

My micro-sim arrived faster :D
[Nexus 4 General] Chad_Petree:
Has anyone heard a date when they'll be selling the nexus 4 again (in Germany) in Google play? Right now I'm guessing around January 15 since mediamarkt is advertising their shipping estimate by that date :(
[Nexus 4 General] TylerDurden1999:
I hope its sooner than that, cause it will almost be 2 weeks since they are sold-out in the Play Store in Saturday.
[Nexus 4 General] biandtlp:
I hope too. But maybe they want to wait until the end of the holidays, in january.

And then will begin shipping 4/5 weeks
[Nexus 4 General] batano:
There are to much Orders which aren't completed yet so they won't start selling again soon... Probably they will start just after the 6-7 Weekers got shipped
[Nexus 4 General] kinglargo:
I ordered on 14/12 so I'm a 6/7week wait. I will post it when shipping is done.

For now my status is pre-ordered
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Ordered mine 07-11 and got it 21-12, MediaMarkt Aachen.
[Nexus 4 General] FlatEric0074:
Phone ordered on Nov 18th in MM Wuppertal, got it there Dez 22nd ;)
[Nexus 4 General] xopah:
Ordered 5th dec

Hi

Did someone order theirs on 5th of december with 5-6 weeks delivery time and has got your's delivered yet? Please keep this thread updated with such cases!

I ordered mine that date with that delivery time and I'm waiting!!!

- Im so tired of using my Blade ! -
[Nexus 4 General] Lorthirk:
Same situation as you, and still waiting
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
Hey guys. I want to order a N4. What you recommend me? To wait Google play release another batch or buy it from Media Markt? I want it as soon as possible :D:p
[Nexus 4 General] sebr:
For sure GooglePlay as they have better warranty service. They replace your device in advance if it is defective and once you received the new phone you have to send back the old.
[Nexus 4 General] xopah:
Got a email from my local dealer, they have it in store for me to pick ut up from a pre order.

The issue is just that they want 599,9€ for the 8Gb model!

- Would you wait for my device from Google Play?
[Nexus 4 General] biandtlp:
Your dealer is a thief!! It 's more expensive than a ebay seller

Wait your device from google play..
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Your "local dealer" is madia mark? If is true they made "a little" change to their price!

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[Nexus 4 General] jurvyx:
I received mail from MediaMarkt this morning, N4 was ordered on 6.12.

Problem is that friend who lives in Germany and who have to pick it up is on holiday with family last few days, and if N4 is not picked up today or tomorow they will sell it to someone else :crying:

now I must figure something else or I will never receive it :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] xopah:
Local dealer is not in Germany...

on my local market MM has not established operations... yet...
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
Seriously??:( and what about warranty services on MM?? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] sebr:
They send it in for repair, most likely to a service partner of the manufacturer, and after a few weeks you get your phone back. No advance replacement like google does.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Depends. Retail price was going to be 599 said Google. That's why alot refused to sell it. LG delivers the phone not Google. If he bought it from play store and then resells it then he's a thief.
[Nexus 4 General] Ysalamiri:
People who haven't got an e-mail or call from Media Markt: Good news!

I suddenly received an e-mail from them :D They have restocked ^^ (Kassel, at least)
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
Anyone knows about MM on Wiesbaden??
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
That's good news! btw, anyone know if MM or saturn will be operating as usual today in Münster area?
[Nexus 4 General] xLychee:
Media Markt Neumünster finally got them. I was the first to get it.

-Lychee
[Nexus 4 General] mikaole:
Which MM?

Maybe one from us can help
[Nexus 4 General] jurvyx:
Thanks for help, everything is ok now! :good:

Other friend will pick it up tomorrow, and I will get it in 2 weeks :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] biandtlp:
lucky man ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Melandryu:
Hi everyone :)

Maybe anyone here can help me.

I am from Spain , but this christmas days i have a friend in Dusseldorf and im thinking about buy N4 on MM...but...whats the warrantly? its from google or from MM? this is my only one doubt.

Thanks in advance and happy christmas.
[Nexus 4 General] me_max:
Does any MM have bumpers in stock, too? Anyone?
[Nexus 4 General] leontouchhd:
Does someone here have any news about MM Nordhorn :)?
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
News anyone for MM on Wiesbaden??
[Nexus 4 General] mauge:
It's from MM and from LG

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[Nexus 4 General] gendjo:
Hi, i finally got an email from MM - Hamburg - Harburg , i can go and pick it up....i have ordered at 30th of november... good luck to the rest of you guys...hope everyone will get his Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Got my MM notification today that my pre-ordered Nexus 4 arrived.

Due to the fact I've got my Nexus 4 from GooglePlay in November already :) I'm open to pass my MM device to anybody who's interested in. Please contact me via PM.

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[Nexus 4 General] Melandryu:
Then if i have any problem with my nexus 4 i have to send to MM in germany? damn it...

Thanks m8!
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
How many messages did you get..? :)

P. S. You should probably say where you are.
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
See your pm please:o
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
It seems like a large batch for germany (like 20k devices) was produced around 20th of December.

If the previous production date to shipping delay is still valid, it will take about 2 weeks until phones arrive at the DHL logistic center.

So, the first week of the january will be very exciting :)
[Nexus 4 General] ahepas:
Hi there and merry Xmas everybody!

A friend of mine who lives in Germany ordered the phone at 07.12.2012 01:29. I wonder if anyone who ordered the same date took the device.

Cheers
[Nexus 4 General] Chad_Petree:
Where did you get this info?
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Hoping that they'll even be able to fulfill the 6 to 7 weekers with that batch, even tho' we don't know how many 4-5 weekers are still left:p
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
Don't forget the 5-6 weekers, that's my group :p
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35952318&postcount=102

My own N4 was manufactured around 21 Oct and shipped on 5 Dec. Or around 2 Weeks between production and arrival to the DHL logistic center.

So if we assume similar delays (christmas, new years eve does not make the whole logistics thing easier here in europe), those phones produced on 21 Dec should arrive at about first week of january. I think something like 20000 devices is quite significant for germany.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
Nexus Availability Checker

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLmp1bGllbnZlcm1ldC5uZXh1c2F2YWlsYWJpbGl0eSJd

Not sure if it works, ratings are mixed. Saw it around and thought I'd post it. :good::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] qtekker:
24.12.2012 07:12 Uhr

Die Sendung wird vorübergehend bis zur Zustellung in der Zustellbasis gelagert.(Kleve, Deutschland)

This is my DHL delivery status to Saturn Kleve. The package was sent on 21.12.2012 and it's still not arrived. Is it normal in Germany to take so long to deliver a package?

EDIT:

Die Sendung wird dem Empfänger nach Ablauf der vereinbarten Lagerfrist zugestellt.

... It seems that DHL is queing the deliveries and transport to them on agreed frequencies ...
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
In UK Google Play Store started shipping of N4 ordered in 5th dicember.

Do you know if someone in Germany of 5th dicember started to receive shipping email?

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[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Not sure, it seems most people who ordered from the play store have stopped posting about their orders. Most of the posts seem to be about mediamarkt orders. I'm guessing Google is still shipping phones, but the people receiving them are not posting or aren't members on the forum.

Either that or the german play store hasn't shipped in a while.

I'm hoping to get my order soon as well.
[Nexus 4 General] biandtlp:
I think so too.

Anyway my order of December 4, 19:55 (5/6 weeks) is still in pre-order. No change date. Nothing :(
[Nexus 4 General] Luk_Sch:
I'm still waiting for the confirmation mail of my MM in Offenburg..

Just after this post I received the mail.. :)

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[Nexus 4 General] saptarshi.goswami:
New batch is uploading today

It seems new batch of nexus are coming today. I may be wrong, but seems just before every time new batch comes out wallet server goes down for few minute. And today just now seems again wallet server down. So some hope for we guys.....:p
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Let's hope so, it's been awhile since we've heard anything about shipping orders from the play store!
[Nexus 4 General] sebr:
Very vague guess, I doubt they ship out a larger amount today. My guess is mid january.
[Nexus 4 General] bla_laber:
Nobody wrote something about shipping mails from Google because there were none.

When they send them out we will notice immediately here I think ;)
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Well kind of weird that the UK and the USA have got constant shipping notices going out, yet germany has nothing going on near two weeks? Kind of find that hard to believe. Not saying it's not possible, just that i don't see why google Germany wouldn't have any activity going on at all during this time while the other countries have mass shipping going on.
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
hey guys. just order the N4 from Media Markt. On their page, said that will have stock on 15.1.13. Can i expected sooner?? I ask because yesterday some people went and get it from the MM store and some others have mails saying that their order is arrived. anyone can answer me?:D thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Ok so 4th December is still waiting.... ok hope that all this MM orders will reduce your waiting line (someone will cancel his order....)

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[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Possible but unlikely since those people ordered very early when the delivery estimate was still the 15th of december. Keep hope tho' you never know, some people might cancel or they might get a large enough stock where yours might be in.
[Nexus 4 General] christoff_el:
Same here - 4/12 18:12 (4-5 wks).

Haven't seen any play store order shippings mentioned here, so I would guess all the devices went to MM (or to the UK, since they kicked up a fuss with that petition etc).
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Your should be shipped soon... what is your estimated ETA?

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[Nexus 4 General] christoff_el:
"According to our records, your order should ship by the evening of 05-01-2013."

So yes, it should be soon. (I'm not actually in Germany to collect it at the moment, so for once I can say "please Google, take your time"!)
[Nexus 4 General] philidor:
Sorry for you but I hope Google will RAN RAN RAN ! ;) I'm 6th....

And also I hope Google will start shipping your orders.... in England and US people are receiving their phones !!!

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[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Yes I hope they start shipping again next week.
[Nexus 4 General] Lorthirk:
I ordered on Dec 5th, est. shipping 5-6 weeks, scheduled for Jan 16th. Guess I'll have no joy on this turn either...
[Nexus 4 General] Ysalamiri:
Damn you, postal service! :D Work faster.
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Man, some 13 and 14 December orders are getting shipping in other countries. I hope our orders will get shipped soon as well. I wonder how many november/early december orders are still left in Germany?
[Nexus 4 General] leontouchhd:
I ordered at MM Nordhorn at 5 dec and still no reaction, i'm curious when i'll get mine....
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Thanks for your response, but I was kind of hoping to get a response from all the people who still have a pending order in the play store. Mediamarkt and google operate independently of one another.
[Nexus 4 General] leontouchhd:
Ah oke, didn't know that ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Lorthirk:
5 dec from play store, no news yet
[Nexus 4 General] qtekker:
I received an email that I can pickup the N4 at MM dusseldorf arcaden. I have just send them an email to cancel my order. So if you live near dusseldorf you might be lucky...
[Nexus 4 General] Killuminati91:
Seems like germany is getting the short end again... Dec 4, still not a single thing changed.

And of course, instead of actually supplying their customers they supply mediamarkt. Great.
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Agreed. Just got of the phone with cs, and as always they are as useless as can be. Talked for over 20 minutes, but the lady doesn't know how when where or who. Also can't let me talk with anyone who knows anything and says the customer support and shipping section are two different entities and have no contact with each other what so ever. Tried to get someone on the line who is a manager or has some sort of power. But got a response saying they are a small center and the managers don't know anything either.....

Doesn't look good for germany, don't think we'll be getting anything anytime soon.
[Nexus 4 General] Gryx:
Google doesn't deliver to mm. LG delivers to retailers. Google included. People pre ordered at mm in November. Why don't they deserve a nexus 4? Because they didn't order trough play store? They are just customers like any others!
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
I don't think he necessarily means that people who ordered at mediamarkt aren't entitled to their phones, but that he finds it annoying that lg is going into business with other retail vendors when they can't even supply google themselves. Which is an annoyance i can relate to.
[Nexus 4 General] t0n:
My guy in germany just informed me that he received a confirmation email from MM. The device is ready to be picked up today! Not sure the exact date when he placed his preorder but it was the same day the second wave of german play store orders started. Yay for me! and sincere good luck to all others.

MM in Ingolstadt.
[Nexus 4 General] Hidden92:
I bet it's actually like this: Google ordered let's say 100.000 devices, LG produced this devices and at the same time is making contracts with other retailers like MM. Then Google realised they need a lot more devices and now LG has to produce new devices for Google but there are existing contracts with MM and they have to be fulfilled as well. (It's mostly Googles fault for not ordering enough devices at all)

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[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
El goog did complain about erratic information and deliveries from LG. If this is actually true, then no wonder google does not know anything themselves. They probably know the date of the next scheduled delivery, but aren't sure LG will keep their promises.

Don't fret, according to the LG database they produced several thousands of ADEUBK devices which probably are the ones for MM.

Couple of days later (19 Dec) they produced a pile of ADEGBK and ADE8BK devices which are 16G and 8G versions for a german google play store. Seems like 8K or 10K units or so, also pretty significant.

Last time it took about 2 weeks between production (21 Nov) and actual shipping notification from a warehouse in germany (5 Dec).

Which means, that we can expect new deliveries in the first week of Jan (if the pattern holds).
[Nexus 4 General] miniAndroidian:
Alright i finally pre-ordered my N4 at MediaMarkt near to Frankfurt i really hope that just a few persons pre-ordered there so I might get a mail on 15.01.

Let's hope the best :)

And from which database exactly did you get those informations mate (can we proof that ourselfes)?
[Nexus 4 General] johnxarma:
I also pre-order mine yesterday! Hope to get it soon:) date says 15.01 so we're waiting..
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Man I hope you are right. Makes sense though, it's been weeks since they last shipped. How did you come across this info and how or if not you, who has access to this LG database?
[Nexus 4 General] sebr:
With your calculations you shouldn't forget about the holidays and the usual delays that come with it to the end of every year. I dont expect new shippings until mid january.