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[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
I really don’t understand all the negative connotations being leveled at the Thanks button.

What’s the issue if a person has a small and unobtrusive note in their signature, reminding people to press thanks if they have been helped by the aforementioned person’s post?

I don’t mean a huge banner with neon lights begging for thanks but personally, I’d rather see a small reminder to press the thanks button than see some malingerer who constantly asks for help and doesn’t have the decency or good manners to say thanks using any method.

My view of the thanks button has always been a positive one as it serves multiple purposes. To name just three:

1. It serves to give thanks where thanks are due.

2. It notifies the original poster, that you have read and appreciated the post they have taken the time and effort to write.

3. It helps to keep the thread clear of posts just to say thanks.

Regarding the question of when should a Member qualify as a Senior Member, I like the idea of raising the bar here also.

Whether this is achieved by requiring more posts, more thanks, longer membership or a combination of all three, I’m open to ideas but I like the idea in principle.

As a mark of recognition is enough reason I think. Also, it's not adding any new user group... it's fine-tuning the existing user groups.

By your thinking, some may ask what is the use of a Recognized Contributor title?

Simple. You are being recognized for your devotion and service to the XDA community... at least that's what I take from it.

The same could and should be used for the Senior Member title…

It should mean that you haven’t just joined XDA because of some short term goal of what XDA can do for you (like unbricking your device etc.)

You have joined XDA because of your interest in technology and in the XDA community and you have stayed an active member for a designated length of time and accumulated a designated number of posts and achieved a designated number of thanks.
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
I really didn't want to do this, but here goes.. look at this guy's thread. Reap OP's starting, then the last part of OP, then the first part of the 2nd post. Then look at his signature.

-gone- He isn't just a thanks wh*re, he is THE Thanks wh*re.
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
TBH, I don't see a lot wrong with what you've quoted above but more than that, I'm really struggling to care less.

In fact, I find the signature in Post 3 to be more obnoxious but maybe that's just a matter of taste.

In any case, I don't see the need to single out a specific user and make derogatory comments about him / her in a public forum.

I see from your post, that you appear to have thought long and hard about whether to post your comment or not... I would have chosen the latter.

There are quite a few large and obnoxious signatures that I've come across on XDA during my time here...

The ones I used to have to suffer on a daily basis, I no longer see thanks to AdBlock :)
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
If you or any user sees somebody with a signature that looks to be on the large side (or inappropriate), please click on any of that users post and report the signature. A mod will look at it and contact the user (or edit it if deemed unacceptable) and ask then to reduce it

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
Erm...Demanding a thanks from the person before saying that he is allowed to download the ROM doesn't look like a wrong thing to you? :eek:

I really wouldn't like a dev telling me to thank him first before he gives me the download link further down the post. Agreed it can just be ignored, but it shouldn't be like that..
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
Absolutely I agree with you on that... In fact I noticed a similar scenario just this past week from a member here on XDA.

He was also refusing to release an update unless people rated his thread with 5 stars!

Unfortunately for him, it had the complete opposite affect from what he was hoping to achieve... and rightly so.

The entire thinking behind this sort of behavior goes completely against what I've always thought XDA stands for.
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
Woah, that's plain idiocy.

IMO, regarding the huge thank me banners and sigs, I think the user should be warned twice about it and if it happens the third time, thanking the user should be disabled.
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
You should probably view it as if you have served your sentence and now you're out on parole for the next 3 months :)
[About XDA developers] jebuchanan:
With respect to the thanks, that is so abused these days, and Imo, worthless at present. I have seen members get several thanks just for Coming on and saying hello (this is over simplified, but true). I don't mind any system when it is used correctly, but some of the abuse of various counters on here is crazy.

I like the idea of a time period for Senior level, and perhaps a minimum post/thanks level, but I see that too getting abused.

I also think the thanks system should not publicly display the names of those who give thanks.

With respect to the apps, try quickly scrolling past a hundred of these. Can't. I have to pause a moment for the (complete) post to DL so I can slowly scroll past them. Displaying total post thanks would be sufficient without seeing the names (usually the same ones over and over).

Sent from my Samsung GT-i9100M

ROM NeatRom Lite 4.3 XWLSD

Kernel Philz 4.35 XWLSD

Mods:

23 toggles blue w/rt clock

Automatic Call Recorder

NeatRom Boot Animation

Multiwindow fix

AdvanceS fix
[About XDA developers] electricsheepdreamer:
Well, IMHO, this is oversimplified but true.

Anything can be abused or used. The browser view, report button, signatures, you name it.

So let's use it.
[About XDA developers] Section9:
Just to add on:

We all know how people tend to gyrate towards the wrong end of the system when there are no specific rules about it. I have been here since I got my first PPC phone and stayed away from the chaos.

XDA was strictly a "do your search before asking any question noob!" zone and any repeated questions were shot down with "read the op" which is quite daunting.

The only community that I gravitate towards is NeatRom thread whose members are patient and willing to answer most questions, even though they are repetitive. I think the success of that community relies on the kindness and goodwill of all it's members and it's developer, which I feel, is the right direction to proceed in.

Unless XDA would like to become a puritan state strictly for developers, if not, a little kindness goes a long way. :laugh:
[About XDA developers] jugg1es:
This same sense of community was something i found in the htc Desire s forum when i first signed up. And that still exists, i think it's there in a lot of the devices its just with the influx of new users it tends to get a little lost.

We are what we repeatedly do; excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.

—Aristotle
[About XDA developers] prototype7:
It's really all about the general attitude of the members and the atmosphere of the community. If the precedent is set that repeated questions = bad and those that ask them are idiots, then anyone joining and hanging around for a while will gladly join in on the noob bashing. If people are generally helpful and patient with people who might ask a repeat question as long as they're reasonably polite, then new members will mostly follow that when they gain more experience, and it would be the noob bashers that are looked down on.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
100% agreed. Put it this way, I always try to treat those as I would like to be treated. If you treat people with respect, in turn they should hopefully treat you with respect. If you behave like an a$$, don't expect others to do you any favours
[About XDA developers] VemByte:
How about remove rule post 10 in development ?

my suggestion is, senior member can suggest or giving recommendations who can post or not in development sections (like his my follower and he understand about rule and development). not all newbie all really newbie.

that's my recommendations

P.S sorry for my bad english
[About XDA developers] MiguelHogue:
Some feedback

I always wondered about why threads are just simply locked and not deleted .. 9 times out of 10 if a thread is locked it's because the thread is being closed or something bad went on.. I can understand locking a thread because a dev put a project on hold for his personal life or because the thread needed to cool down after an argument (just random scenarios) but the majority of the threads I see that are locked can be deleted.. I think that would cut down on clutter in forums.. Just my two scents and thinking "out loud"

-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

-Galaxy Note II Edition
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Let's not and just say we did.

If you're suggestion was to be made it would increase the work for moderators because they would need to review every single user who is recommended. At the moment, the system requires no mod work except when there's a glitch and the system lets someone get through without the limitation.

In a lot of cases, threads aren't deleted because they still have the possibility to be useful if someone was to search and find the thread.

Even in situations where a thread has literally no use, if locked it will quickly fall down through the forum anyway.

Generally, the only times threads are deleted is when the majority of posts are really bad but would require too much mod time/effort to clean all the posts out.

The other time is if you're the OP of a thread which is redundant and holds nothing useful to anyone. I've requested this a couple of times.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Let's continue On Topic please

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] boborone:
I've wondered this, too. And honestly there seems to be no reasonable answer. What sucks is now when you search, you get half your results on threads that have been locked instead of deleted. Not sure why they aren't deleted either man.
[About XDA developers] MiguelHogue:
Thats what I'm saying.. Especially the search

I understand what carter is saying as well(especially if it's like an old dev thread.. I can see that being locked and kept up.. A user might want to run that rom still or something) .. I just see some crazy threads that get locked instead of deleted.. That has no information at all.. Just something silly and not useful

-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

-Galaxy Note II Edition
[About XDA developers] prototype7:
But really, those threads will never be seen, because if they have absolutely no useful information, they wouldn't show up in a search and since they're locked, they'll quickly fall off the first page and pretty much be lost. However, most threads actually have some small bit of useful info, an answered question or something like that. I don't see a good reason to completely delete them, you won't see them again after a few days, and it's not like it puts any extra strain on the servers, since it would still actually be there even if it was deleted. If you could give some examples of these threads that are completely useless and locked, that might help your case.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Just some picked from the first two pages of the About XDA section.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2156119

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2157114

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2159294

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2162298

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2141588

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1923103

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2163252

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2166975

That's just some of them and that's also with half the first page being filled with stickies.

XDA has a trash section that I used to read just for the amusement. Now it's hardly ever used.
[About XDA developers] vigoos:
Unfortunately I still see many such OT threads in device forums like incredible. Please delete them. Also I am not happy with threads like hangout threads in device forums. They are as good as thrash. Rather they become spam thanks thread.

Sent from my HTC Salsa C510e using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
If the mod team decided to let it stand, they will stand. EGZ it was, I think, that said that it is entirely upto the mod team assigned to that particular group of devices to keep or remove OT threads in device specific sections.
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
I participate in numerous OT threads. Never seen one go to that extent..
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
If I come across any like this or deal with any reported thread's like this I would probably close thread, clean it and then reopen it. If thread is completely useless, I would probably delete it
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
If you need an example, I've quoted one several times.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Link please
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
By far the most useless and most "thanked" thread to date:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1628346
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
I will have absolutely no problem with that thread if it was in OT and no holds barred. That is partly what OT is used for in many other forums.

The no nudity rule is bent so far in that thread, they might as well allow it.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
That thread has been under review for a while now and was given a 3 strike rule quite recently.....i.e. abide by rules stated in OP or thread gets closed/deleted. They are currently on strike two, so more more rule break and it's a goner
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Despite that last month of rebuttals, I appreciate your honesty and quick response. You are a stand up gentleman.
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
I was talking about general OT threads not the type of thread you just linked...

---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:31 PM ----------

Ok, but it really doesn't make sense to have a thread like that full of pics of nude chicks where thanking is allowed and then take thanks away from the OT section where at least some amount of useful information(like laptop/PC thread) flows..

*Not trying to bring up the 'Bring back OT thanks' movement again, just using it as an example
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Tbh, I do not care for post counts or thanks meters. For me they are just an extension of somebodies e-penis. I prefer to base my opinion or view of somebody on their post content alone. If somebody wants to boost their thanks meter to look cool or to compensate for a small manhood, then by all means, but I do not give a flying ****.
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
The "thanks" issue is not really that big of a deal. It was pulled from the General OT section due how it was being "abused." However, that is not fully enforced throughout the site. How one area of the forum upholds the rules, another can simply lolly-gag along and continue as usual. It's up to the mods discretion and not what is written in black and white.
[About XDA developers] MiguelHogue:
I can say the same thing about the thanks meter.. I've have folks in my device forums say "I'll take your word for it" since you have a high number of thanks.. When it comes to helping out answering questions.. And I think that's a terrible attitude to have.. Even though the contents of my post is correct, judge by what I'm saying (research for yourself as well) and not just by thanks.. To many folks put to much emphasis on thanks

-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

-Galaxy Note II Edition
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Thread cleaned. Please keep on topic
[About XDA developers] DeathmonkeyGTX:
We've got a dev pissing match in the AT&T LG Optimus G original dev section. sk8erwitskil and synergy are going back and forth with incendiary comments, and whilst synergy is right in my opinion (granted I am not a dev by any stretch of the imagination, but I have been flashin' crap from here since 2006) it is still conduct unbecoming of a dev for them to be bantering back and forth about who bricked what. It seems to stem from sk8erwitskil getting into it with synergy on an IRC channel unaffiliated with xda in which sk8 got butthurt and threatened to release a dangerous (potential brick) method of getting non-native AOSP running on the LG E970. Please sort this out.
[About XDA developers] Jose_dias:
really nice

hi there,

well i would like to said that this forum is very good.

I have a HTC desire, so here i learn how to root, flash and install new rooms from developers.

Also the news are fresh

A big community is great, cuz there are someone online that can answer to your question or comment.

keep it

:cowboy:
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
Not a mod or admin or any other staff of xda,

But I'd like to add that a few of us were asked whether such a potentially dangerous mod should be released to the public or not.

And the majority of respondents said that the project should be made irrespective of the risk.

While us respondents do not know what happened on the IRC channel in its entirety or the time frame of this incident, the "threatened to release" part may have occured due to our unbiased opinion on this matter.
[About XDA developers] midzan21:
I have question about Thanks buttin limit and about new "class" upgrade. I just want to know is 8 posts Thanks limit for everyone or just for Members class? And if we have 100 posts do we became Senior member?

P.s. my grammar s*cks I know coz my primary language is Croatian
[About XDA developers] Deadly:
This should help you.. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1699450

Read post no. 2..

8 thanks limit for everyone /day on browser.. yes, after you make 3 more post you will be senior.. and question was not related to this thread :rolleyes:
[About XDA developers] mdmower:
I would like to see an option to only accept private messages from users with 10+ posts, similar to the development forums.

Rationale: All of the private messages I receive from new users are requests to help them unlock their phones or install a ROM for them.

The existing option to only allow messages from contacts is too restrictive. I don't keep a list of contacts and still want to be available to other developers that I have not met.
[About XDA developers] HideTheCookies:
still a noob

i think that new users like myself should read, read, read, and double-check everything in prerequisites/directions before ever posting. i'm still very much a noob but i have restored from soft-bricks, flashed roms, s-off, and used 4ext to flash with s-on and haven't run into a single problem that wasn't covered in the first two post of a thread. i'm forever in debt to xda for the knowledge i've acquired in the countless threads i've spent whole nights reading. i guess my point is new members should be required to maintain an account for several days before posting so they too might gain knowledge needed to solve their problems but then again i started reading xda forums 6 months ago and this is my first post :)
[About XDA developers] K.A.:
Anyone see this yet? I think it is a good idea.. :\

Would be great if we went off off-topic posting now..
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
wrong thread. I suggest you go to Galaxy S Plus forum ;)
[About XDA developers] Deadly:
if you search with the "phone name" as search term.. you will find users talking about that.. there you may contact them or in q & a section of your phone , if it has a sub forum.. this thread is not the place for this..

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“If you wait to do everything until you’re sure it’s right, you’ll probably never do much of anything.” –Win Borden
[About XDA developers] kdw_dj:
Hi,

I just would like to say that this forum is messy for me. For example I am a user of Samsung i9100 and when I want to find anything I have to spend a lot of time searching one thread everywhere.

At Samsung's i9100 there are sections:

Galaxy S II General

Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Galaxy S II Accessories

Galaxy S II Original Android Development

Galaxy S II Android Development

Galaxy S II I9100G Android Development

Galaxy S II Themes and Apps

Looking there you could see that:

- in "Galaxy S II Themes and Apps" are such thread as: "Post your desktop!", questions how to get an access to US version of Google Play form India, how to disable vibration at the dock, etc.

- custom ROMs, kernels, guides are in both sections: "Galaxy S II Original Android Development" and "Galaxy S II Android Development"

- MODs are generally everywhere

I have in mind that your idea has sense but as you can see people can't understand where to start a thread. In my opinion it would be much easier for everyone if there will be sections like this:

News/Infos etc.

Accesories

Q&A, Troubleshooting

User Guides / How to

Developer Guides / How to

ROMs: 1. Stock; 2. Stock-based; 3. Whole-Custom

Kernels

MODs

Apps

Themes
[About XDA developers] Krishnadusad:
Hi . I understand your point but, that would just create more confusion for the user and a mess for mods .

Mods kernels and roms are under development forums depending on whether they are modified kangs or developed from scratch .

Each thread in a sub forum is separated by the 'tags' on the topic like [KERNEL],[ROM],[REF],[NEWS],[Off Topic ] etcc . I frankly don't think it could be any easier
[About XDA developers] percy_g2:
Your idea is nice but see like example

If study in some class name ex:-12 it has a subject name ex:- maths, it contains many chapters ex:- alpha beta x y z

You are suggesting that make

Aplha a subject

Beta

X

Y

Z bla bla

Its will be a mess

Tags like [ MOD] [KERNEL] [ROM] [APP] [DEV]

are ment for some reasons

I think u got my point!

Spoiler content hidden.

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[About XDA developers] TingTingin:
the rules explain what each section is for which is mandatory to tread upon of an account

Anyways my recommendation is a 10 post rule for OT, users can't use OT to get there 10 posts yet they are allowed to post in OT

PHONE SLOW CLICK ME?

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"Waiting 4 s4......"- TingTingin"​
[About XDA developers] Prawesome:
Already discussed and frowned upon by the mods

The official answer was "We would rather have 10-posters spam OT than development" :) It does make sense
[About XDA developers] JJEgan:
Thats the key to easy forum use read first the faqs and guides.

Sadly so few have any intention of ever doing that hence the mess xda has become.

My only suggestion to the mods is to dispense with the General and Q&A sections to save the mods moving wrongly posted stuff every hour .

jje
[About XDA developers] TingTingin:
It makes sense to not want development to be spammed but I was asking for a 10 post rule to also be added to OT not removing the one in development :)

PHONE SLOW CLICK ME?

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"Waiting 4 s4......"- TingTingin"​
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
I think every overlooks one thing - if they try to spam OT, it's easy to find and remove, and reset their accounts. Our FSMs will spot it in device forums.

I think in general we catch spammers faster in OT than elsewhere... So surely that helps, given it keeps OT clean..

Regards to OT, I think the perceived problem is one of maturity. I know most of those involved claim to be adults, but some of the pointless threads about banana and llama are frankly a waste of space... OT used to be about mature debate and humour, but now it seems dominated by a highly insular group who spend inordinate amounts of time there, which would be more productively spent getting a job, or constructively posting to help people having problems..