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[About XDA developers] undercover:
Sorry Gary, but what I see there from the quick is no different from stuff on other forums. The only difference is that it is not diluted by 100x more spam (oh how do I unlock my bootloader on Nexus device that has tons of stickies and superb guides. Haaaaalp). I see similar stuff every day coming from devs and the best part of it is that it's devs to general user that asks questions, not dev to dev(most of them are kernel devs). While it might not be down to that level that you showed me,it's pretty similar in essence. Real group development requires live chat. I've been in irc long enough to see how it works. Forums are great to throw ideas in, but do you consider an idea a development? I consider development the process of typing them codes in. Obviously ideas are a part of it, but it's more like a start pistol for development rather than another runner.

I'm not a dev but I've been watching xda for over 2 years now, and I chose to support the users rather than go deeper into development. The way I see it, us, more experienced users, should act as bumpers between devs and noobs, so devs can do their thing in peace instead providing support. And wherever you like it or not, most people come here for support, not for the love of development. Google brings them here (as it did me).
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
Development is something I do while talking with people and posting ideas, while I'm sleeping, etc. What we do at a keyboard is coding. What we do in our heads is development. Two developers often talk shop without ever referencing any specific language or any code samples (unless there's an issue involving a specific language or construct.)

Abusing an earlier example, the process of typing 'p, r, i, n, t, f, (, ", h, e, l, l, o, , w, o, r, l, d, ", ), ;' isn't development. Taking the problem of wanting to display a message on a console and figuring out how to solve that problem is development. Figuring out how to solve the problem in the context of a given language might also be development. Typing the code is just "coding."

Knowing that I need to convert a string into a numeric is development. Knowing that a function exists to do that is development. Typing "atoi(string)" is coding. Many developers write their own code (but not all do.) There are MANY coders that couldn't develop to save their lives. Those people generally will take developed ideas from developers and architects and churn out code for them.

Put another way, communication is the art of expressing ideas. This message is an expression of communication, but the typing isn't communication - it's just typing. The concepts behind the typing are communication.

One more way to describe it: A developer designs the house, decides what rooms will work where, how the load bearing walls have to be placed, understands plumbing walls and that electrical wires need conduits. They create a blueprint. Those skills aren't usually required for the actual construction labor.

Does that help?
[About XDA developers] garyd9:
For the 'feedback' side of this thread:

I have a new sympathy for the moderators of active device forums. More so the sections I tend to post in. After cleaning the same thread 4-5 times now (in less than a single day span), including having to deal with a user who's at least as... persistent (hard-headed).. as I am, I can't imagine having to do that for every section for multiple devices.

I'm not joking when I say I've OFTEN posted something that's questionably off topic with the thought that I just want to convey the short message and a mod will clean it up for me later. However, combining my post with 234234 others tends to make a huge mess (and loads of work for that poor moderator.)

It's only worse when it's someone "known" posting that crud, as it's almost like the off-topic banter is being sanctioned and the flood starts.

The final straw is when that thread gets linked to from MANY outside websites. (Somehow, I just know that there are XDA admin's laughing at me right now - and at least 2 or 3 mods who have a HUGE grin on their faces.)

Take care

Gary
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
What do you say on this now:

Should all moderators necessrily be top-class developers?

@mod team - I had a question...

With the recent re-arrangement of the subforum mods, we now have a bunch of mods for a bunch of devices...

The question is, which one do we contact?

Do all of them (the 8 fsm's listed) have jurisdiction over all the devices where their names appear?

There surely would be some internal arrangement as all devices do not need the attention of the whole team...in this case, how do we know who is assigned our forum?

Although the new arrangement is very sensible and welcome, it wouldn't be feasible to have 10 different people complain to 10 different fsm's...

None of the 10 mods would be able to understand the "greater picture", atleast not as much if the 10 people had complained to one single fsm...
[About XDA developers] efrant:
Any one of them.

Yes.

If the complaint pertains to a post or a thread, the best way is to click the report button. That way, there will only be one moderator looking at it.

Clicking the report button is always preferable (vs. sending a PM to a mod), if the issue pertains to a post or thread.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Folks, this is a feedback, recommendations thread. It is not a request thread to request sub forums or for Q&A. If you want to report something, report it, but not in this thread! Let's keep this thread for ideas to improve XDA with your thoughts, ideas etc........ Ok?

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] jaykresge:
With all due respect, you just contradicted yourself. You asked for ways to improve the forums. I suggested a way to improve it by consolidating similar devices (the Nexus brand). When I go into compact mode, there is no Nexus sub-area, so I have to ctrl-F to get to individual devices. That's counter intuitive and my suggestion would be seen as an improvement by many.

I respect the moderators here, but your contradictory statements are confusing. You seek input, but then you delete the input that you seek.
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
There's a difference between ideas and requests so Fallen Spartan hasn't contradicted himself at all.

If you want to request a forum/sub-forum to be added to xda then use the New Device Forum Requests thread and if you want to request something to the Admins (which isn't about forum addition) then use the Requests to Moderators & Admins thread.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
^^this

All I'm saying is, I want this thread to be about ideas for which we can discuss, hopefully implement, not requests or forum additions etc. We have separate threads for these as linked above. Technically your idea about consolidating similar devices would be better suited in the requests to admin thread or request forum/sub-forum.

Apologies for not being more precise in my explanation
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
The complaint is with regards a user, not just a specific post/thread
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Then select one of his posts, report it and tell us about your complaint about him

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] Lopicl.00:
This is a fantastic forum!!!!

P.S. Now i have 10 posts!!!!

Inviato dal mio GT-S5830i con Tapatalk 2
[About XDA developers] undercover:
I just had a look in my future predicting orb and saw that you will lose some of the 10 posts. :eek:
[About XDA developers] deathnotice01:
can we have a specific limitation to the size of signatures,

i saw lots of overly obese signatures around in xda
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
Or maybe just force impose a

tag in everybody's sig...

Then everyone's free to put anything in there...

It won't be welcome by all though, but its either this, or yhe current scroll-fest...
[About XDA developers] deathnotice01:
well specific dimensions will help a lot though,

and restrictions too in sig creation,

i don't like hiding stuff especially sigs since i dont trust anyone as of now :p
[About XDA developers] Bill720:
clarification

I'm not saying that at all. Moderators should be able to enjoy the posting privileges that all other members do, but they should also be subject to at least some of the xda developers rules and not be complete asses to other members.

Thank you. The incident was some time ago, but I'll speak up if I see it again. Like I said before, I have no problem with anyone making a joke, even if it is at someone else's expense, but there is a point where you cross the line from comedy to just being an ass.

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[About XDA developers] Allan_Hun:
Posting in development treads

I'm sorry if this isn't the right thread for this but its very frustration that i am not allowed to post anything in the org. android development forums.

Just because I am new doesn't have to mean that i'm stupid. This practise also cause a lot of stupid posts from new people trying to get around the min. post count rule.

I have been using New_maclaw/Novafusions releases daily for a few months, without much trouble, and would like to try and help solve some of the problem other users of this ROM encounter, but i'm not allowed to post anything.

So I go to team novafusions homepage but it has like 30 different treads where lots of people randomly ask for future release dates and report problems without logs or detailed descriptions.

Sure there must be some better middle way ?
[About XDA developers] eagleeyetom:
Nobody says that you are stupid. The 10 post rule was implemented to prevent spammers from posting and to get all members more familiar with the forum and netiquette. You can go to Q&A section and answer some questions in few minutes and after reaching 10 posts you can post some feedback in development threads.

If you have some ideas regarding user restrictions, please visit this thread and share your thoughts.

Thank you.

Tom
[About XDA developers] It_ler:
If you want to help other people having trouble with this "New_maclaw/Novafusions" ROM releases, ask the dev (via PM) if there is already a Q&A / discussion / help thread for it in a general forum.

There you can post without the 10-post-limit.

If the dev states, that there is no such thread, you can volunteer to create one for him ... but he should agree and then add a link to your help thread in his dev thread.

See also this for a nice template for such device/ROM specific help threads.

(In this case, some of the RCs active in the template thread will support and help you in creating the help thread.)

BTW, helping others is the best way to create useful posts IMO :good:

I like this attitude :highfive:
[About XDA developers] Allan_Hun:
Novafusion help thread

As far as I know there is an unofficial general thread about Novafusins CM11 but apparently only a few users know this thread and Maclaw doesn't want anything to do with it. I guess this is part of the problem...

I have been reading forums as far as I can remember but until recently I rarely contributed, so I honestly don't think I'm the right person to create a new help system.
[About XDA developers] Primokorn:
delete
[About XDA developers] rovo89:
I noticed that smileys and the arrow icon in quotes are shown on a separate line. Not sure since when this is the case, but the "inlineimg" class makes it pretty clear that this is not the expected behavior. ;) I'm using the 2013 theme, it's fine with 2010 and in the "Topic Review" (on the reply page).
[About XDA developers] eagleeyetom:
Yes, I noticed that too :cyclops::cowboy:

Our admins are aware of the issue and hopefully it will be resolved soon.
[About XDA developers] rovo89:
Ok, cool! Same happens for the post icon btw.
[About XDA developers] eagleeyetom:
Thanks for the report. I will forward it to admins.
[About XDA developers] championswimmer:
Recomendation/Suggestion :

Code highlighting (syntax hilighting) in the code boxes ?

Since this is based on vBulletin, I think there would be some modules/plugins available. If not, some modules from other common CMS can be adapted. But we seriously need it. Especially in the App development forums.
[About XDA developers] efrant:
Have you tried the

tag instead of [code]?

[url]http://xdaforums.com/misc.php?do=bbcode[/url]
[About XDA developers] :
What all annoying and frustrating rules are there for new members... :silly::mad:

Like one can not have a signature unless this many no. of posts...

One can not make two post within 5 mins...

Why all such restrictions in forum...
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
The unable to post restrictions are only enabled in the development fora. To find out why please read this thread.

Edit: The 5 minute restriction also goes away either after 10 or 30 posts, not entirely sure which.
[About XDA developers] :
Moral of the story is if somebody want to know/discuss/tell/share something important/urgent, first he should spend at least 10 days reading forum rules and increasing post counts then he will be allowed to do so...

Even schools do not have this much rules and restrictions...

Sent using Sense... Common Sense, not HTC Sense
[About XDA developers] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Hahaha... NO

But some basic reading is expected.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
If it takes you 10 days to read the forum rules and make 10 posts then something is seriously wrong. Should only take an hour tops. Is this really unreasonable? The 10 post rule is in place to combat spammers and spambots. If you have something urgent to discuss with somebody, just PM them.
[About XDA developers] :
10 days was just a quote...

But it simply is not an hour thing...

There are faq/rules/guidelines and hell lota things in each and every section...

And as far is PM is concerned, we post in threads/forums so that every one intrested should know/participate it and one is not able to give solution/answer somebody else can give...

PM is not a discussion it is limited between two people...

Sent using Sense... Common Sense, not HTC Sense
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
Yes, there are FAQs for you to read, rules for you to understand, and guidelines for you to follow. It takes no longer than a few minutes to do all of that. This is how this forum works - you don't just ask your question and move on. You help others as well, you give back. XDA isn't your personal help desk, it's a community, and if you don't like that no one is forcing you to be a part of it.

Anyway, you need 10 posts to post in development sections. More likely than not, you're not posting development related threads (questions about ROMs don't count as development; while some developers may tolerate that, it is by no means the rule.)

If you want to ask <insert query here>, do so in the Q&A sections. You don't need ten posts for that.

Last but not least, if you have better alternatives to the ten posts rule, there's an appropriate thread for that. Complaining helps no one. Offering better suggestions may.
[About XDA developers] :
Who are you to tell me on being a part of the forum or not, who gave you the authority to tell this to anyone.

This is a feedback thread, and I give mine.

If you dont like it dont keep an option for it or simply just dont read them.

And last but not least, most of the members here do have work/college/school, they are not sitting in front of computer all the time and replying to every post on XDA to increase their post count to become so called recognised member/contributer/developer...

Sent using Sense... Common Sense, not HTC Sense
[About XDA developers] efrant:
Hi there. Yes, this is a feedback thread, and the feedback you are giving is to us: the moderators, administrators and the owners of xda-developers. GermainZ, the user to whom you replied, IS a moderator and, thus, has every "authority" (to put it in your terms) to comment on your feedback.

We read all the feedback given, and we do comment on most of it. As the other moderators have already mentioned to you, the restrictions are there for a purpose and therefore they will not change (unless a better mechanism is suggested/found). That being said, most users have no difficulty reaching the "members" level, which eliminates the posting restrictions and allows you to have signatures. And, as was also already mentioned, if these restrictions are too much of a burden, you are welcome to not post.

I hope this has addressed your issues. As well: welcome to XDA. :)
[About XDA developers] :
Why my previous reply to this message is deleted.

And as being a so called moderator/administrator can you please tell me why my post count is reduced to 26, it was supposed to be 35 excluding this reply.
[About XDA developers] Stryke_the_Orc:
Just a guess, but I'd say your posts were deleted as you were arguing only to increase your post count. That considered spam and spam gets deleted.

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[About XDA developers] :
I was just giving my feedback and was trying to point out something...

But I think the so called moderators were unable to digest that...

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[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
I'm going to tell you this, your attitude leaves much to be desired. Picking arguments with moderators and failing to understand why policies are put in place after being told several times in several different ways, is no way to start your membership on this site. Complaining and belly-aching about the 10-post rule will not change the policy.

If everything here is making you so unhappy and your sole purpose is to be combative, perhaps this isn't the right site for you.
[About XDA developers] :
Can you please let me know how one can delete his profile and account on XDA, compeletly delete every activity made on XDA which includes threads, posts and email id on xda server...

The member never existed on XDA...

Also how to get refund for XDA app purchased from play store...

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[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
You can ask

MikeChannon

to delete your profile, account, activity on XDA, etc. As far as a refund of your app purchase, you will have to go to the Play Store and go through the proper channels for issuance of refunds like you would any other app. Play Store transactions are not handled on this site.
[About XDA developers] :
Thanks for a quick reply.

Sent using XDA Premium
[About XDA developers] :
I did PM him 4 hrs back but still waiting for his reply.

Sent using XDA Premium
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Mike is based in the UK, I doubt he'll have been up 4 hours ago from when you replied. Please allow some time for differing timezones.
[About XDA developers] :
Right now it is 12.30 PM in UK.

But I still dont have a reply.

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[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Probably because they're is a backlog of PM's that he needs to view and reply to. In addition to that, its Saturday and XDA staff are NOT tied to XDA 24/7 - we have lives outside of XDA and other responsibilities to attend to. As I said, allow a little time and it will be sorted.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
A lot of mods spend time with their families at weekends. He probably hasn't been on since.

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] bupkus:
Developers should be able to filter out peeps to leave only those who contribute. Offered both + and - lists just like with routers. Good idea? Do the thing.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
That would mean that developers would be acting like moderators within their own threads which as pointed out on this post leaves too much potential for abuse.
[About XDA developers] D™:
May i add a point here.

1) If possible, we can give RD a right to allow newbies Question or suggestions at His / Her thread. like, while making any thread at Dev section a tick of "Noobs Suggestions" there. so that if Only that Dev wants then only Noob can ask or give suggestions. I agreed that it will b acting like a Moderator. But it won't allow Dev to delete or modify any post.

Using this we might understand what Dev actually wants.

or

2) As we can see In DevDB, we have option of Question and Answer tab at above of thread topic. Like that, if any Newbies posts at Dev thread, can b transferred to that General Discussion thread or Q/A thread, automatically.

That post can be seen at Dev thread but with the sign/template/color of Discussion thread. If any user quote that post, to answer, can be transferred to that Discussion thread like i said above.

This is what I m thinking from last many days.

Sent Using my MOTO© G® from Tapatalk Pro - D™
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
There is no reason for a noob to post until Dev threads. Not until they learn more.

You have to remember that this is a developers site. Made for and by developers. This is not a rom, support or user site.

Bat cave One
[About XDA developers] D™:
I knew it already, who said its not a Dev site.;) But for new Joinee not for Noobs. There is much difference between them.:D

BTW, I am asking about Developer interest. If a RD not other Users, wants then only. Means, if an RD gets right to let new Users to post for suggestions or bug reporting. Like I said above, in my Point no 2. :o

Hope I made you clear. :fingers-crossed:
[About XDA developers] bupkus:
You misunderstand. I am suggesting that developers can mark a person as an always see (+ list) or never see (- list) for their own personal viewing ONLY. This would not impose a display censorship for anyone else viewing the thread.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
This is what adding people to your ignore list does I think.
[About XDA developers] bupkus:
I'm not familiar with the built-in features. I'm suggesting a feature to operate as I described.
[About XDA developers] efrant:
Hi there!

As [MENTION=4184142]Jonny[/MENTION] already mentioned, the "Edit Ignore List" does what you are looking for. It's probably best to familiarize yourself with all the options of the template you are using. It doesn't make sense for us to add a new feature which does nothing different than what is already implemented.

Additionally, this thread is for suggesting alternatives to the "10 post" rule. If you have other feature requests, please post them in this thread. Thanks!
[About XDA developers] TruthC:
More stratefication: tags, a rating system, mind maps, applied filters

While the very existence of XDA is awesome, the forum format is a bit antiquated. Though no expert, I am aware of other features which if somehow implemented could be game changing. After all, it is a bit ironic the a developers website is, while efficient in it's keep a low profile approach, still somewhat lacking in features.

Brainstorm:

Tags: couldn't tags enable users to self delineate their posts? Can't they tag Newbie or Neophyte or Dumb. Then other's could search the forums by excluding those tags. Those replying could tag the posts. The collective tags could be a form of rating system, especially if they were color coded, sort of like emoticons. Imagine a rating system based on emoticon tags! How about that? Lol.

Mind maps: if tags or key words were mind mapped, that would be cool. It would help if there was a way to highlight significant words and phrases. Even when asking dumb questions, key words and concepts may none the less be identifiable.

Zone filters: if there was a method to automatically filter more helpful threads, sort of like email filters. When they have certain key words or are from so and so, that can be funneled to folders.

Wikis: The forum is a mess when trying to find by key word. What would a forum in the shape of a wiki look link? If people could mind map search before posting their questions into a branchlike framework, that could help.

Other ideas: color coding types of questions, Custom Google searches by type of problem (submit your forum post link the the appropriate custom search engine)..

Anyways, at post 201, I don't know if anyone will read this or if it makes any difference, so to speak.

Best regards