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[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
Gary,

Ideally, this is what the xda-wiki should be used for. It is grossly under-utilized, but way back when, and I am sure you remember since you are an ex-Blue Angel owner as well, the BA-Wiki contained every single piece of info, including links to tweaks, how-tos, ROMs, radios, even links to Xanandux and the other Linux project pages and files such as qtopia! What we sorely need, to complement xda-u and help with every day questions, would be someone to maintain wiki sections for each device. To this day and age, very few people actually maintain the wiki pages unfortunately. However, that would be the solution I would suggest for this. It creates 0 restructuring of forums and puts to good use an already available resource....

In fact, this just gave me an idea! Let me bounce it off the sysadmin to see if it is feasible and I will post here when I get a reply :) :highfive:
[About XDA developers] _Variable:
id like that we get rid of boring website, we should be able to apply themes to the site.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Anywhere else :rolleyes:

Basically, go into any other forum that is not dev, i.e. General, Q&A or even OT forums, and help others by answering their questions........you'll find that 10 posts is actually not hard to reach, plus you'll be contributing to the site

Word of advice though, don't go spamming the forums with useless posts. You'll be warned, posts deleted and account reset, so you'll have to start from scratch again

Actually, I'll offer you more free advice. Before you ask any question, make sure it hasn't been asked before, i.e. search. If you do not, and your question has been asked countless times before, you'll probably get flamed by others and may even have your post deleted
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
This was brought up in the requests thread too.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36312593&postcount=226
[About XDA developers] Lifehacker7:
When someone creates a thread, it should get permission from the mod team so that this is gonna minimize the tedious deleting and locking of threads breaking the rule! It's gonna help filter out duplicates too.

Just my opinion. :)

Life!
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
The amount of threads created on a daily basis is huge, I don't have the number to hand but it is ridiculous. This is unfortunately not an option as it would require people working constantly around the clock.
[About XDA developers] Lifehacker7:
I get it. Anyway it was just my thinking :)
[About XDA developers] Live.:
Dear xda developers Admins.

i think if www.adf . ly be available for persons with high thanks meter ( xxx and more ) its Can Impetus developers to release faster and better roms and makes noobs to share good posts and Cause less spam.

thanks.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Not gonna happen. If is against XDA rules to use adfly, and it's going to stay that way
[About XDA developers] E.Cadro:
Because

Which violates this rule.

That should hopefully sum it up for you ;)

Moderating from my One Xl
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
^^^100% correct
[About XDA developers] mskphi:
bad noob video

Just saying hello...

I am in now here, after reading a lot of threads. But I was thinking of rejecting the registration! The noob video is not very nice. If You do not want anymore users, just close the board.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Well, the majority of people think its funny, including me........and it does send a good message, so it's here to stay
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
There are actually two different welcome videos. One is the old "You are a noob on XDA-Developers". The other is the 2013 style "Welcome to XDA".

The original one is intended to be a parody of the famously patronising Albino Blacksheep video about "forums, based on advice from the Steam user forums. It's rather famous on the Internet, but if you've not seen the original from there, you might not realise why it is said like that.

The new one is some general advice on how XDA works.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Ok, this thread has gone OT. Cleaning in process

EDIT - Cleaned

Back to recommendations/Suggestions/Feedback please
[About XDA developers] undercover:
I have a question. Why does xda have so few mods?

I'll explain why I ask it. There are 50k+ people logged in to xda at any given time. AFAIK there are just over 100 mods. I guess we will be lucky if half of them are logged in at any given time. Difference is quite overwhelming, isn't it? Especially with next generation of users most of who just demand, don't read the rules and don't behave all that well.

Why not do away with 10 post limit altogether and have more mods? This way presence would be a lot more obvious. Atm it's more behind the scenes and I think a lot of new users feel "safe" to do what they want. In no way I would like xda mods to turn into police, rather that if more mods would be active (more mods in general, more activity in the topics), users would feel a lot more connected to them and would realise that mods are actually friendly and often issue an infraction because they have to act on certain things not because they want to "show off their powers".
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Well...

The question is a good one. Obviously, one thing to consider is we are currently doing another intake of moderators. Indeed, the number of mods has increased hugely in the last few years, to match the rate of growth of Android.

The fact is that the actual number of mods isn't always key - it's about how effectively we use the mods we do have. Sure, I am sure we could add 200 mods. But I guarantee that it would be a worse situation, as those selected would obviously not be reviewed with the stringency that all current mods undergo.

I don't like to think that anywhere on the site is "behind the scenes" with regard to no attention from mods. The new mod groups should help, by categorising all the forums into logical groupings, which are moderated by the same team.

If we just add more mods, we would lose consistency. And while we are not always perfect, we want to strive to achieve this.

Ultimately though, what you request is the ideal situation we would all like. I'd say all our mods are friendly and approachable, but of course they can't really get involved in the discussion as much if their time is taken up dealing with idiots.

We moderate this site reactively though. Proactive moderation would need (by my estimation) pushing towards one thousand mods, based on the number of posts made per day. Obtaining consistency at that level of people isn't really possible.

Proactive moderation also isn't something I particularly think is a good idea - it is a bit oppressive in some ways, as it borders upon how some totalitarian countries operate on the Internet. I like to think that we should operate on a presumption of innocence and no misconduct unless otherwise reported.

That's not to say mods don't browse the site. But they are not expected to read and check every post. If they were, then surely this is no longer a free forum to discuss on?
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Thanks for your reply Pulser.

I didn't mean mods being proactive, but rather more present. efrant would be a good example. His presence is NOTICEABLE on N4 forum, while I hardly seen others apart from them closing threads or giving warnings. While I understand and know how it works, i'm sure newbies only see the negative side of it, while with efrant they actually have a chance to build a good relationship. This was just an example, and there is no need to explain to me anything, as I said, I know how it works and don't blame them for a second for not being there (visibly). Of there were more mods, mods in general would more likely have that extra few minutes to read through and post a helpful answer or joke around.

Amount of mods can be increased efficiently I think with passing more responsibilities to a SM, which is happening now with the groups you created. But I think groups should be bigger or the should be more groups. Although it looks like there are more mods by looking at the top of the device forum, once you venture out to other devices you notice that's it's mainly the same mods. That is a lot of work for them.

Basically, to summarise, I think that users, especially new ones, should have an opportunity to talk to mods on a casual basis, have a laugh together, see how mods do things. I think one way of achieving that is to offload the workload a bit. Unless mods themselves don't want to participate, in which case it wouldn't work. I understand that RCs are meant to be the ever present good face of XDA, but it doesn't happen like that. There is a lot of hostility from new users that just went onto senior member status that think of RCs as of mod wannabe and see any advice they give as them trying to be patronising. In fact I've witnessed such a thing a few days ago and had to back up that rc and explain the guys (which are a good bunch really) that he is only trying to be helpful.

I believe you understand what I'm trying to say and hope you guys will take that into consideration. I'm talking from experience of a noob, senior member and RC(ex), so I'm just sharing what I've witnessed in that time and what I think can help it a bit.

XDA is becoming to hostile and negative, to the point that you just want to stop and not bother posting (check first few pages of my latest thread) but I'd like to see that change.

All of the above is imho and in no way a demand (why do I always feel the need to post that disclaimer? :D)
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
I know this wasn't the main part of your post, but I can kinda relate to this.

I've seen the same thing a few times and have jumped in to help explain that he/she was only trying to help. It probably didn't seem too effective as it must've seemed like I was "looking out for my own kind", as such.

I actually wanted to become a RC for the flip reason of that. I noticed a lot of times, when I was a Senior Member, that if I tried to help some people with their problems they would only want help from RCs/mods/admins etc so they would reject my guidance, even if what I'd suggested was the best solution for them.

Once I became a RC, it wasn't a problem helping people with that mentality because I was already at that 'rank'.

Fortunately, I haven't faced hostility from members who think I'm just trying to become a mod and even if I did, I'd just ignore it and move on.
[About XDA developers] SXUsr:
Hi.

As you've said it's not the numbers that make a difference, but having looked at the Moderator Application Process, perhaps it's a little too stringent for the current times?

Proactive Moderation is what these forums are crying out for, and have done for a while imo, it's not about having to read every last single post made all day everyday but Moderators should at least be skimming through the first two pages of each section, General, Q&A etc and keeping the forum as tidy as possible, moving, locking or consolidating similar threads but in a few of the forums I visit (mainly Xperia forums) that just isn't happening, and while the assigned Mods might be the nicest People in the World if they can only be here a few days a week, hour a day or less or whatever and relying on users in the main part to report threads that should have/be locked, moved or consolidated then that isn't good or doing enough to sort a problem most of us seem to be in agreement about which is Android noobs. :angel:
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
Living on the other side of the world to many of you (maybe the majority of you?), I've always been pleasantly surprised at how fast a moderator will respond when the report button is pressed. Whether this is an indication that the current quota of moderators is sufficient or not I guess remains to be seen, but based solely on response times from the perspective of Australia and Thailand, I'm comfortable with how it's working.

---------- Post added at 12:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:08 PM ----------

TBH, I've never found this to be the case... I deal with junior members and senior members on a daily basis and I've rarely experienced anyone being openly hostile to me, let alone accusing me of being patronizing or a mod-wannabe. That's not to say that it doesn't happen because I'm sure it does and you've given examples. In cases like that though, I can't help feeling the problem can just as easily be caused by a new member's or senior member's inferiority complex as it can by a RC's perceived, condescending response to their question.
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
^^^^

+1 to you sir. :good:
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
That is actually quite interesting, as we only have (off the top of my head) 2 or 3 mods from that timezone. I'm going to guess that the times you use the site coincide with evenings where the majority of the mods are :)
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
I disagree - being involved with the current moderation structure, we need to be more selective in who we bring on board right now, in order to achieve consistency.

Appointing staff isn't something we take lightly, and we like to do so gradually in order to help them get used to everything.

I see what you mean, but I don't think users really want intrusive moderation these days - what you are suggesting isn't that intrusive, but users tend to perceive too much "routine housekeeping" as being overzealous.

I would prefer to see mods as peacekeepers rather than janitors, and I'd say the majority of issues requiring mod intervention are related to misconduct rather than simply tidying.

Of course they will tidy if needed, but part of the "open forum" theory is that the good threads end up active and at the top, and the rubbish gets buried to the bottom of page 48...
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
It's entirely up to the individual staff how they choose to interact with users, but I think all do what you are suggesting. The difference is that some might not be interacting in an ordinary friendly way as users within the forums they look after.

If a mod has an HTC One X, for example, but moderates some of the tablet forums, it is more likely that they will hang around in the HTC One X area. And to pre-empt the natural next question, we can't just assign everyone to their home device forum, or we would have no mods for any older devices. And if we had to add one for every forum, we cannot ensure they are all at the required standard which users expect at XDA.
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
Perhaps, although I do spend an inordinate amount of time here so maybe I've just been lucky :)
[About XDA developers] ApriliaM3:
If you follow THIS link and complete the details, your missing star will be allocated. :)
[About XDA developers] hyperdyne:
XDA Needs a Developer Q&A Section

I wholeheartedly agree with garyd9 (11/12/11) about the need for a developer's Q&A. The DEV section is only for posting finished or in-progress products. The Q&A sections are choked with support questions from non-devs like "What is the best ROM?" or "How do I improve my battery life?". Posting detailed technical questions in Q&A is much like asking your dog. Posting in the [DEV] section gets you scolded. I strongly urge XDA to create a "Devepment Q&A" so as to truly promote development.

Thanks for letting me get that out of my system.:o
[About XDA developers] Hobadee:
Something that has been bugging me for a while is the duplicate forums for different carriers. The SGS3 has 5 duplicate forums, each with duplicate sub forums, simply for each carrier. While I haven't done an audit to see exactly how many duplicate threads there are, I am sure the number is rather high. Consolidating all devices down to a single forum, with sub forums for different revisions/carriers would likely help out developers as they could collaborate easier, and users as they could have a larger search and support base.

I also think that XDA should remain focused more on developers than users. While I am not a developer, I know they drive this site and I know not to bug them with stupid questions. If other users can't figure this out and stop asking stupid questions, they should be forced to leave, rather than the developers.

Let me close this post by quoting Steve Balmer: Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!
[About XDA developers] SXUsr:
Well if consistency hasn't been achieved by now with the current process I'm not sure how being more selective is going to start achieving it.

What you call intrusive I call just doing a job, and as there is a problem that needs to be sorted I don't think any of of us that seem to be in agreement about the first rule of xda consistently being broken on a daily basis is going to see it as being overzealous right now. If a Mod can only spend a bit of time here, most of which is spent dealing with reported threads and not having the time to browse a little then they don't get a good view of their forum as a whole, and when many don't even own the Phone at all or any longer then the forum goes to sh*t, as we're seeing.

But what could be good threads are getting lost amongst the mess because you're constantly having to go over old ground because someone didn't think to type their thread title in to a search engine, as their logic dictates it's easier to spend time signing up to a Developer website to start a new thread asking for what their search engine would have given them in the first few results of their search, and that goes to show the thinking and aptitude of the said new members that are an annoyance for many senior members, and if I had a Pound for every thread titled "please delete" or something to that effect that has been up for a few days or longer I'd be able to put a large sum towards a new Phone, so how those kind of threads go unnoticed I don't know.

What I got my first infraction for off pulser_g2. :angel: While everything should be free that gets released here I really don't see why those that have contributed by way of releasing Mods, Tweaks, Themes, ROMs or Kernels should be prevented from using such schemes when releasing their work, if People can plaster all over their signatures and threads "donate to me" or similar then I don't see why using links that are never going to make you as much as those developers who feel the need to post screen shots of the £100+ in donations they had via PayPal are an issue. I was told by an Administrator that it had caused an interesting debate but obviously it hasn't been adopted, although such links are still in use by a few Developers and Themers across the board.
[About XDA developers] LewisGauss:
I've got an idea to keep DEV thread clean. A 'Work In Progress' or 'Developing' option should be added. This option works like this. If the OP checks this option while creating the thread, he can add a list of members/developers who are allowed to post in the thread. But this doesn't mean that members can no longer post in the thread. Members can still post in this thread but their posts go to a separated part in this thread. If the developers/OP who are allowed to post feels that the post is useful, the said post will be shown in the original thread; If they feel that the post is rubbish or unrelated to development, they can just leave it there and development is not disturbed. The separated part of the thread can also be viewed by every member, but they cannot make the posts in it shown in the original thread. What do you think? :)

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[About XDA developers] nightfire37:
Can you include the wiki when someone searches for a post or thread? I think it would be a good idea to include that since the wiki on xda is being underutilized.
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
We love that quote. In fact I think we made a post like that some time on the portal :)

RE the idea of bringing together variants, we used to do this. We just get more whining if that happens, and they want it separated. There are enough small differences between some samsung variants that it's worth the different forums.

I'd blame Samsung tbh - no other OEM does it nearly as much! I think developers prefer to have the separate forums, so that they know which device a user is using, rather than expecting the new user to realise they must state that as well... (I am not saying I agree, but I think the current system has good merits)
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
The Developer Discussion forums we are rolling out should achieve this :cool:
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
The reason we do not allow that kind of crap is that it's just a spammy redirect link. It obscures the true destination of the next page, and forces adverts in the face of users, in order to give them some $5 per 1000 clicks etc. That encourages users to try to get more clicks. But we're thinking about the future - if you use such links, and the idiot in charge ever closes the site, or disappears to the Bahamas with his profits (you're being ripped off with the amounts they give you), the links will no longer work. While the same is true for all redirecters, I think we all recognise goo.gl and bit.ly are not about to disappear tomorrow.

We found people using those links to link back to XDA. So they were posting links to other threads by other users on XDA, except putting all the links through that site... That just ruins the browsing experience for everyone - put a direct link in, and don't seek money off others' work.

I looked back and it turned out you were using signature links for this. I can't recall EXACTLY the details, but I think from memory you had used these redirect links in your signature to redirect BACK to xda itself... Which is just clear moneygrabbing. The rules are as they always have been, even back then - this is XDA, this is not your job, donations are nice, but don't go about trying to find ways to make money with links etc, as you're not meant to be here for commercial reasons.

If there are people still using these, and they get reported, they will be removed. We took efforts to break all links using that particular service, to ensure consistency here - the links will be starred out if you try to use them here :) But if people are using more of them, let us know.

The intention isn't to be overzealous, rather it's to stop people ruining the browsing experience for other users - if you are browsing the site via the XDA app, and people are using that paid referral shortening service, their phone can't open the link in the app - it needs to open the browser to redirect, to then open an XDA page after loading a page bombarded with ads, requiring them to manually click to move on.

That's why we don't like things like this, and they are not permitted, as they ruin the user experience on the site. If people are being cashwhores, then please let us know, as it is just immature and silly. XDA never used to be about donations or money, but it seems nowadays everyone is after it.
[About XDA developers] _Variable:
What about telling modders or rom makers to make a support thread for every mod/rom? And assign 2-3 knowledgable people to monitor the page?

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[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
This simply comes down to the individual. Some devs will make a support thread and maintain it, others won't because they either don't want to OR they don't have the time.

If someone wants to set up a support thread on behalf of the dev, that's fine as long as the developer is asked about it first.
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Pretty much this.

I personally don't mind questions in the dev thread from "regulars" or people who know how to flash a ROM. I don't mind questions from new users if they are semi sensible.

I don't like questions like "how I install on my (other phone) pleez answer now!"

I think many other devs are the same.
[About XDA developers] Zephyr!:
Why cant be there a "Thanksgiving" bar??

We will get know who thanked the most!