yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] atomic339:
So kernel need init.d support?

Now I am on NeatRom Lite with stock repacked kernel
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Use this to enable init.d support on stock kernels...;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1933849

You do not need init.d support to use the watch command...but you need init.d support if you want to use a script like the one posted above to run automatically at boot...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
The terminal emulator doesn't need init.d or root.

The command he used needs root (typing su in the terminal emulator will grant you root access). Also, this tweak requires root and init.d if you want to run it at boot (not talking about the apk).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] olivares.leody:
Thanks

I got 4k 3k 2k variations

Sent from my Hyper BlueICS iPocket

Thanks for pressing the button
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kalel29:
WOOT!!!!!

Working Fine on Xperia X10 with CM10 :good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sachinaik:
How do I know whether my kernel supports init.d or not ?

I'm running siyah 1.6.8...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
By reading the OP of that kernel...;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ricfil:
Did not know that:) Glad to know it now. Maybe it will come in handy.

Thanks.

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You´ve already been answered the question. My bad, I did not explain myself very well:D

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Glad you managed it out. Do you notice any major diferences on the overall performance?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] denzel09:
I'm laughing ! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

LOL
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ATRIXXIRTA:
I was wondering where all the leaves in my pocket were coming from...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Whats good zep. :)

Hahahahahah, yes.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hoholee12:
lmao'ed 2 times in a row:thumbup:

뷁
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Madaditya:
i remember this explaination of yours,u posted long time ago..Awesome one! xD

Lol...! xD

Fan of your language!

Well proud that we all contribute for some Green development! xD xD :laugh:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tuluspeace:
Great Guys! Very Smooth & Fast! :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] oldlight:
Thank you. My N7 runs better with this tweak!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] VnnAmed:
I just have bought Seeder from google play store to support developer. Personally I don't see much difference but still I like the idea of tweaking android performance in an easy way like this app do.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] keithross39:
Am I correct in thinking that seeder won't work on (rooted) stock firmware?

Sent from my Rooted, De bloated Stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and Tapatalk 2....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
No, you're wrong. Whatever it does (not going into the it's working/not working debate ever again) is compatible with all (rooted) devices/firmwares.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] keithross39:
Thanks for the reply. ....I've sort of been following this thread for a while....and I did notice that things were getting a bit....erm....heated for a bit... lol

Sent from my Rooted, De bloated Stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and Tapatalk 2....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
I'm actually running on stock firmware and it does work, although now I'm using the v6 supercharger script :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] keithross39:
What.....lag on a quad core S3?.....is that even possible?

Sent from my Rooted, De bloated Stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and Tapatalk 2....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ATRIXXIRTA:
Extremely possible!! The dual core s3 is.actually snappier because if it's two gigs of ram :thumbup:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cdzo72:
Dude if your S3 is lagging then you have other serious issues going on. I'm on Neat ROM Lite and Siyah kernel... underclocked to 1gig and undervolted -50 mv across all frequencies and undervolted GPU table -50 mv for all steps also and have never experienced lag of any sort... without any RAM managers or this installed... just have all bloatware removed and don't let anything autostart that isn't needed
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cdzo72:
Have you uninstalled all bloatware... there are over 100 apps you can get rid of for beginners or at least get a good autostart and titanium... freezing what you don't use and controlling starts of what you sometimes use and change kernel... people may offer different opinions but Siyah kernel truly does rule over the rest
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cellabonez:
Trying. To use on my neo v running aokp jb but keep saying root denied. Using supersu. When I grant it successfully. Retried three times. Any possible solutions
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Linux != Windows

Read more about how Linux/Android manages memory. Used RAM is good.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pajda88:
Im using tablet Onda V972 which allwinner 4x1Ghz and 2 ram. When I installed seeder I only observe drainage of my battery and tablet was not snappier at all... I had used 'light' option and nothing more.

Android 4.1.1

any suggestions ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
You definitely must give a try to zepp's v6 supercharger script ;) check his signature, it just takes some patience, reading and a lot of trial and error. But you know what? It's really worth it :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Then find what apps are taking it all. ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cdzo72:
You have problems elsewhere then... I would consider COMPLETELY wiping the phone... SD cards and all and starting over
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GTMoraes:
holy crap I feel my S3 definitely faster. How could I use my phone before this.

This isn't placebo, is it?

--

read some older posts. Yes, my S3 used to lag a little during some effects (specially after waking from deep sleep -- bringing up camera was like me waking at 6AM) and to open facebook/chrome. Had some scrolling lag too, but nothing major; enough to applefags brag "meh, my 4S doesn't lag like this"

THIS is GREAT. http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/5/5d/Heavy_award07.wav
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GTMoraes:
Hey, you could try Android Revolution HD. Pretty fast, and comes with Seeder (I discovered this amazing piece of software there)

I use it together with Boeffla Kernel, which has a pretty nice mod, which makes the LED fade! (example here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a1bnmdpsysj7g30/zN_Tet_AsW#f:S3 Fading Demo.MP4 )
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cdzo72:
I wasn't insinuating hardware issues but rather software and setup issues.. that's why I said wipe everything and start over
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GTMoraes:
Weird.. Damn fast on my side
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ashish Lahare:
does it reduces games lags......???
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] casouzaj:
Yes, take a look at this crappy video I made a long time ago of my son playing Angry Birds on his crappy Moto XT316, with an old version of Seeder turned both on and, then, off, specially the scenes where a dragon comes in. e.g. from points 1min40sec through 1min50sec (Seeder turned on), and then, from 4min15sec through 4min33sec (turned off) Huge difference! At least for me it is no placebo effect at all on his phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spaazm:
I might be doing something wrong. If it's possible I probably am. Because when I'm using Seeder my games begin to lag heavily usually after about 15-20 min of play. It happens every time with 3D games. Usually all I can do is to remove battery and force a restart.

On the other hand when I turn Seeder off, my 3D games lag as usual, by which I mean in a constant manner or don't lag at all, depending on their requirements.

I don't know if that may interfe with Seeder, but I have a script called Infinity Engine installed. It has measurably improved performance of my device, so I'd rather leave it on. And from what I can understand its OP and Seeders it shouldn't be a problem.

Still there's pretty nothing you can mess up with Seeders settings, it was on default anyway, so how is it possible that it doesn't work for me?

⇜ SGS+ ↭ SlimBean 4.2.2 build 3 ↭ K^Kernel JB V1.7 OC exUV 390MB ↭ InfinityEngine V2.1 ⇝
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seba2121:
I have problem with seeder i have root
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
If you open a terminal window and do a "su" command, what do you get?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seba2121:
I dont have problem with terminal and others root aps
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
try reinstalling seeder and clearing activity registries on SuperUser/SuperSU (whatever you're using) and see if it requests root permissions again :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seba2121:
Thanks for help but not working. Seeder dont please for root request

I instal zip version and i have this error

Switching seeder entropy generator on...

/system/bin/seeder[152]: can't create /proc//oom_adj: No such file or directory

USAGE: renice [[-r] priority pids ...] [-g pid]

Done!

Press enter to continue...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Madaditya:
Do you have frandom enabled?

Check your kernel changelog...if it has frandom..

If so,You don't need seeder...its preferred you don't use it..

Juz be the smart Geek :cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] seba2121:
Ohh thanks my kernel have enabled frandom

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Our kernel(K^Kernel JB) have enabled frandom we dont need this
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kenobz:
Anyone still using this???
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] temporarium:
Yeah, why?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
I had this and the v6 supercharger living together, made a good combination. Think that in addition to the oom groupings, you can have added entropy with Seeder :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] post-mortem:
Thanks for reminding me to install Seeder on my new SGS3!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kenobz:
I've been debugging this for awhile I can't decide if its perfect or not some times I swear I feel it other times its not present. I keep looking for a big pile of proof the other thing I stumble across is UI actions such as keyboards/menus elevating pretty quickly. I was searching for a scroll leap feel but I doubt its there.

@ temporarium, Curiousity.

@ post-mortem, This sounds conflicting more so then me laying attention to of it helps on Gingerbread. I have a strong feeling newer devices are effected lesser. Its up in the air but most seem to go with new means un-needed.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] post-mortem:
I tried it on my old LG P505, and noticed no difference, but I saw many, many people post in this thread that their SGS3 had great results. I just got a new SGS3 recently. That's why! :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Konesuke:
It works as it says on xperia u! Very good

Inviato dal mio ST25i con Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] keithross39:
I've owned 2 smartphones. ..a Galaxy W and now an S2.

When I installed it on the W, it really was like owning a new phone....web pages rendered a lot faster, UI lag was minimised. ....in general, the phone felt snappier.

I've now installed it on my S2.....it might be making a difference, but tbh I wasn't running the S2 without seeder for long enough to be able to make an objective comparison. And now the phone has JB with "project butter", uninstalling seeder to try to make a comparison would be pretty pointless....and I have ABSOLUTELY no intention of flashing a 4.0.4 firmware just for the sake of being able to compare.....I like my phone too much for that....lol

Sent from my Rooted, De bloated Stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and Tapatalk 2....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 350Rocket:
I gave up on it on my nexus one with cm7.2 because it definitely had no effect on it or desire z I had for a bit on cm7 or cm9/10. I even paid for the app on play store not knowing it was free on xda.

Just trusting the reviews I figured it was worth paying for. I hadn't even read the articles proving that this shouldn't work before I found no effect on my phone.

Now I have a desire HD with cm10.1 and I decided to retry it cause of so many people with newer devices on jb claiming it made a huge difference. I cant say yet whether it works on this or not for sure but it may....I was playing with some stuff and restoring some apps last night when I finally had some spare time and got bored. I had to recalibrate my proximity sensor as its been messed up since I got it. Battery is shot too so I underclocked my phone shortly after restoring seeder and doing some other stuff. I noticed under clocking to 768mhz didn't slow my phone down much, not sure if seeder had helped. Today I over clocked it again when I had charger handy most of day. It feels faster but I haven't over clocked in a bit.

Long story short... When I will try to do some scientific comparison with and without and see if it does seem to work on this phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mikivila:
My friend the rngd suspend v3 file (no zip)

Is this for rom makers,? I paste on etc/init.d folder?

Thanks, i make my firts rom,
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Madaditya:
Yup...

That init.d script would enable seeder on every boot...

Might wanna hit thanx :p

Juz Be the Smart Geek :cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mikivila:
I have to flash zip and that script just enable seeder on every boot, ok understeand now, thanks again and sorry for my bad spanglish jejeje
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Madaditya:
You don't need the script and the app both..

Jus script is enough

Just hit it,why waste posts :p

Juz Be the Smart Geek :cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kchannel9:
I love Seeder, but I switched to ExitOnly's nos_entropy script and it's working much better than Seeder was on my ET4G, just a fyi/opinion

sent from my GS2/ET4G (Vanilla Rootbox 3.9.1 w/ ExitOnly's Tweaks) on Xparent Tapatalk2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
It's the same lol...I made the script...just that I did not add the profiles option for Seeder as it is not worth updating...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 350Rocket:
Tried it again for several days and then without for a couple days on the desire HD and it makes no difference I can see on this phone either. That's 3 phones and several ROMs I've tried it on.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kchannel9:
Thanks for making it :thumbup:, please excuse my ignorance.

Perhaps there are other factors I don't realize causing the increase....

Actually now that I think about it, this is on the recently updated Rootbox, and it was the previous build when I was running Seeder. Whoops.

sent from my GS2/ET4G (Vanilla Rootbox 3.9.1 w/ ExitOnly's Tweaks) on Xparent Tapatalk2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] viethungyp:
good app. tks so much
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zodiaxe66:
So glad you shared that info, really useful to the community.:p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 350Rocket:
Well I wish I had read more reports of people that did not "feel" a difference because I wouldn't have spent so the time trying it on every single phone/ROM hoping it worked on something.

I don't think it should he frowned upon to report whether or not something actually worked for you? Tell me how my post was less helpful than somebody saying "good app, thanks"?

I suspect most that were like me and felt no difference didn't take the time to post their lack of results.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bjoswald:
Works great on my kindle fire 2. I know results are a subjective, but I feel the difference and that's what matters. Cheers to the dev for his great work.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] otterbvrn:
Hi, is this app compatible with supercharger?

First I put on supercharger, after that I installed seeder 2.0, I set it aggresive

after couple of minutes, it lagged... even laggier than when I just use superchargr...

thankyou I am using miui v5 4.1.2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Konesuke:
Supercharger has already an entropy fix, so seeder isn't necessary with it.

Inviato dal mio ST25i con Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] otterbvrn:
Ok thankyou...

aah... that's why my phone gets laggier..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jsacool91:
I flashed 4cylturbo engine on swift li rom. Can i run this too?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Itd be pointless.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rohithksaj:
Will seeder create reboot while connecting to pc ???

Am using dhd with niks Rom...and today I got a reboot while connecting to pc ...

And I suspect seeder.....:confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Goomowiec:
i`musing seeder from 1.1 version till now and i never had reboot because of it
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] someone755:
One question;

What is the difference between the light, medium and agressive levels?

Can't find this data anywhere...

Sorry if this has already been asked, but I'm currently in a hurry

Thanks :D

EDIT: Tried on my G8 A101 (Beta ICS builds), it works wonderful! Renders the device usable again :D

Not so much on my phone, though... Actually creates lag (no lag before starting the service - unofficial CM10, buttery smooth)(no loss, because I don't need it anyways... maybe I'll try with the stock ICS (which lags as hell) and report back) :D

Have to try on my N7 (I remember a post on the Portal saying how much this helps the Grouper) :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DeathStroke:
nice app

this is a great app for lag reduction.

i have used in atomic gb rom
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] irfanharith:
Just install the apk and done ? :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eushaun99:
Yes. Then turn on the switch.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] irfanharith:
Thank you ! :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aybarrap1:
Just my vote on Seeder: I can honestly say that it does seem to help on some devices. I have my old HTC Inspire 4G and an AT&T SGS3 which I tried it on. With the Inspire, I noticed the difference right away. I have tried an untold number of variations of kernels, governors, O/C, voltage adjustments, and developer options in which to achieve snappier performance. Seeder appears to work better than any of them with minimal battery affects (keeping the standard onDemand at 1GHz stock settings). Afterwards I decided to O/C adn do some other minor tweaks and now my Inspire is screaming now compared to where it was. So much so that I may have put off buying my SGS3 had I seen it back in late November. I am not a dev and do not claim to understand how this stuff works, but it just does. Whether the OP's assessment as to what is really happening is correct or not, too many have noticed an affect that is an improvement for it to be just a placebo. I will also confirm that it did little to nothing in terms of improvement for my SGS3. If there was a difference, it was negligible and I could not tell any difference which helps prove that it works on some devices but not others.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] IDisposable:
It seems to help SSL

I was running a Dropbox sync of my TitaniumPro backups WHILE I installed the Seeder 2.0 APK. The upload speed visibly increased with NOTHING else done (no reboots, no UI interaction). This is on a Galaxy S III running android 4.1.1 T99UVDLJC.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hoholee12:
This just feeds entropy pool in /dev/random which is only used by other processes that arent dalvik so it basically does nothing for apps which is basically a dalvik process. What we actually need to feed is the frandom module which is used by dalvik vm.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Why that? Kernels don't come ready with frandom...and frandom is similar to urandom (there's a long story behind this, not including here)...so why will something be used when it was not there at the first place?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hoholee12:
Nevermind. I was mistaken.

Just looked at the sourcecodes now.:o
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] RC196:
Does this work with Viper 3.28 on the Att HOX?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Try It And See™

No reason why it shouldn't function correctly. You may or may not notice an effect, but that's another subject. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ardicli2000:
I cannot turn on the switch :(:(

It says that there is no su access. However I definetely have su access.

TB and other apps working perfectly.

What shall i do?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kir3:
Clear data of Seeder and try again
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ardicli2000:
Tried but did not help. Actually SuperSU shows me that Seeder is granted with necessary permissions.

I have Galaxy Note with Stock JB 4.1.2 on board.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] post-mortem:
Delete Seeder from within the prefs of SuperSU. The next time you run Seeder, it should ask you to grant permission again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ardicli2000:
It did not work either.

Please look at the pictures:

http://db.tt/fdzFB982

http://db.tt/rM7D1bUo

I give permission. But right after that I get a prompt saying that there is no root permissions. :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rydog66:
Do you have another mod installed like NOS or CrossBreeder?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ardicli2000:
Cross breeder installed.

Is this could be the culprit?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Madaditya:
Exactly

Crossbreeder disable all other rngd services

Also if kernel is frandom enabled seeder dosent work!

^Coz We dont just Root phones for Fun ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
Yes CrossBreeder disables Seeder, frandom wouldn't do anything to Seeder unless frandom/erandom is linked to random/urandom (which it is if CrossBreeder is installed).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jhuff83:
Everytime I reboot, seeder is off even though i have it checked to start automatically. Very annoying, any advice.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShivangDave:
Have you provided it correct root permission ? Because i was facing the same.. corrected root and voila... :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rydog66:
^^^^^^are you trying to use it with another mod like Cross Breeder???^^^^^^

This reply was meant for the one before the one quoted.....sorry for the mix up