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[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Do you guys remember high school Biology? Theory of evolution? I can't remember the name of the "other guy" that opposed to Darwin proposed a theory where species evolved out of need, not natural selection.

Anyway, I think my fingers are growing due to the N4. :)

Sent from whatever
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yep, learnt it 2 years back, I believe his name was Lamarck (German Monk), great theory, probably is true! ;)
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
F***, I'm old...

Sent from whatever
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Didn't think you were old. How old is old?

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
34

Enough to have idolized that guy on your quote as a top 3 guitarist...
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Old my arse, which two come above him?

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Clapton for the feeling, Malmsteen for technique. Bettencourt a close 4th...

Disclaimer: I've grown (regarding Malmsteen)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Nice choices

Your still not old I've got five years on you and i still feel 21

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Bunch of young bastards!
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Says the old git in the corner :p

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Some of us 'Old Gits' might take offence at that, young man! :mad:
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
You may only have 1 year on me but I'll never be as old as you :D

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Sorry, but this has to be done ...
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I only hope i grow to a ripe old age in a very disgraceful way

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'm trying
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Yes, very..... ;)

Sometimes you're the windshield; sometimes you're the bug.

- Mark Knopfler.
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Can I update my Nexus 4 to 4.2.1 (OTA update) without loosing root, recovery, unlock,...
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Might get away with using ota root keeper from the play store, never personally tried it but have heard of success stories with it
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
GS3 owners, how long does it take to charge the phone to 100%?

Someone I know complains that it takes too long, iPhone used to take an hour

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
With wall charger at an completely empty battery about 1.5 hours.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
How much mA does it draw? This guy says that it takes 5 hrs.. Saga takes at least 3 hrs.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Takes me just under 2 hours to charge from empty, I need to be as stable as possible for work :( so running stock 4.1 at the moment if that makes any difference
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
The desire s is going to be left a ghost town soon along with a lot devices. Have fun lowveld, enjoy it. Cheers for the review though

Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATM?
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Hope what you end up building trickles down to Desire S :)

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
1000 at wall charger, 475 over USB and 900 at usb3.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I've decided to keep my ds regardless of my upgrade, so i ordered a new official battery, whats the best initial charge time? It came this morning and I'm sat here looking at the envelope wondering when to plug it in.

"Crap... Someone knocked over my recycle bin... There's icons all over my desktop..."
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
1450 / (whatever mA it draws)

It's 500 to 700 for me

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Over what period of time for that first charge?

"Crap... Someone knocked over my recycle bin... There's icons all over my desktop..."
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yeah, I think I'll need a new one too, I may not upgrade for a while, and my battery is not in very good condition. Takes WAY too long to charge, never reaches even 95% and barely lasts a day :(
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I've been getting about 3 hours screen time at a push. Still don't want to put too little charge in that first time, i ordered an official one cost me a tenner but you can get them for about £6-7 from eBay

"Crap... Someone knocked over my recycle bin... There's icons all over my desktop..."
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
So....

I guess I have an iPhone now.

...yep.

Sorry.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Traitor.....:thumbdown:
[HTC Desire S] rain987:
Dun let him off your sight.Looking for something hard to throw.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Wow... It's just a phone dude. Chill...

Side note: now with ip5, I can clearly see how battery life sucks on desire s. With Endymion I had fabulous standby time, but once I've started using it, batt. was dropping like mad. Now I just don't think about it anymore. I usually get about 7.5 hrs of 'screen on' time and thats normal/heavy use.
[HTC Desire S] fireblade:
most of ebays "cheap genuine" batteries are not genuine at all so it's better to avoid them if you are looking for durability.

anyway i wouldnt worry too much for how long you charge it the first time, just charge it 2-3 hours until it says it's fully charged and keep in mind li-ion batteries start giving their best after 2-3 charge/discharge cycles.
[HTC Desire S] ste_vlad:
new device - One X

I eventually got my One X and I can safely say that moving from a 2 generations old mid range device to a current gen flagship device can be shocking :D. Wondering how upgrading in 2 years time will feel like...

First impressions: I'm still getting used to the size difference, I find myself trying to do things one handed as I did with the DS and failing miserably :), however the huge screen is extraordinary and makes a world of difference. Build quality is excellent overall, however I noticed some flexing in the upper center part of the glass, right on the HTC logo, I suspect it has to do with the service intervention (which btw resulted in screen and battery replacement).

I haven't unlocked it, I intend to keep it that way at least a couple more weeks in case some dubious defect comes up and needs warranty, don't feel that much need though, running on official JB and Sense 4+

Despite my unpleasant start I still don't regret getting this over the S3.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Thinking of getting myself a Nexus 7, if I manage to find someone to get it for me from US or UK.

It's primary use will be for Google Navigation.

I was thinking of getting a dedicated GPS device for my car, but friends suggested to get a tablet and a car cradle. Garmin device costs approx 200$ here, I can get a Nexus 7 16GB for the same price :)

Does it make logical sense?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
In all honesty if your only going to be using it for driving navigation then you really can't beat gamin for sat navs, one of the best I've used, I've tried all sorts of navigation software but the garmin wins hands down for me. Even their app just doesn't cut it,

I am going to call my kids Ctrl, Alt and Delete. Then if they muck up I will just hit them all at once.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
lol, love your signature!!!

@suku, get the damn tablet. Your money'll be spent much better that way... plus, it's an overall device and with regular updates your navigation experience will only get better with time.

Plus you can do naughty android things to it... you know you want to...;)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
^^^ What he said, +1 to both things :)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
snap, just made me lol in the office
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
A Nexus 7 right now will obviously push the life of Desire S for a little longer...

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] prateek7791:
same with my case..

got a nexus 7 and planning to keep the beloved desire s till next nexus phone ...
[HTC Desire S] nik00:
I had a Desire S and I had more problems with it.

The random reboot - went into service, in warranty - changed the motherboard,

then dispaly problems - service, in warranty - changed display,

random reboot again - went into service and changed with Motorola Defy Plus.

Not recommend anybody HTC Desire S

I have three friends who had problems with Desire S random reboot - changed after two visits to the service.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Bad luck to you... Many of us here have been a happily using and screwing up our devices since more than a year..

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Guess who has a n4 in his backpack right now :D
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Nice... :D Congratulations mate! Shiny new toy... ;)
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Its just awesome :eek:

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
some of us for over a year and a half!

isn't it just. Welcome to the club.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Congrats eyahl on your new toy, hope you'll stay around ;)
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
I have to tell You something guys... I hate iP5's keyboard with passion. Nowhere even remotely as good as my desire s with smart keyboard pro. :( If it's a learning curve, then it is quite steep.

Other then that, you don't want to know. ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
How's it going then? Still Stock!

ps Update your sig!
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Yeah, still stock. I still like it that way, but im sure in a week or so I'm gonna root it.

Even after some days of use I'm still impressed by the device. The screen, the build quality, the speed.. Simply blown away :D

@oly: for sure, still checking ds threads multiple times every day :p
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Trust me, it only gets better. Once I finally adapted to the form factor, and set up some basics lime volume unlock and status bar brightness... I was blown away again.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Hello all, today will no doubt be a hectic busy day for many of us, last minute shopping, frantic wrapping of gifts, the delivery and collection of parcels, visiting of family, not to mention the necessary excessive eating and drinking.

So let me get in her early and wish you all a Happy Christmas!

Enjoy!
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Merry Christmas to all of you....

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Working Christmas Eve, not good. Still got to finish my shopping, not good. Knowing that I'm going to spend Christmas with my family, priceless.

I hope that each and every one of you has an enjoyable, happy and relaxing time marked by memories that will last a lifetime.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Well i was supposed to be working today but had a phone call whilst on the way in saying im not needed, just finished my shopping. Let the celebrations begin. HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE whatever your beliefs. Hope you all have a good one

"You know you're a geek when... You try to shoo a fly away from the monitor with your cursor. That just happened to me. It was scary."
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
And for everything else we have MasterCard:D
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Merry Christmas everyone! Try to see beyond shopping, eating and drinking. What you really want is probably in front of you, you just don't notice it the rest of the year.

Cheers (literally)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Merry Christmas to everyone :D

Here's something that will probably make you laugh - for Christmas, one of my friends 'upgraded' his Galaxy S3 to an iPhone 4S :p:p:p
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
If only Darwin were alive... i would've loved to see the look on his face...:p
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Well, one day, the humans will evolve and become monkeys

Wish you all wonderful Christmas :)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Presents finally wrapped after a few pints down the local watering hole... Merry Christmas all :beer:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
This guy read my mind :p - http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/24/editorial-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-new-htc-nexus/

HTC really needs this too, the past year wasn't the best for them either.
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Ah, yes, the HTC Nexus One with pure Android 2.3.5 "Gingerbread"... Recently found out about that one. Is it still supported with software updates?

P.S. I also recently found out that Google actually let Samsung release 2 Nexus devices in a row - Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus :eek:

I tempted to see a new Nexus from HTC, but I'm afraid that it'll probably look like one of the current phones by them, or they'll release a clone-device, like they did back in the day with HTC Desire, which basically was a pure copy of Nexus One but with some different hardware.

Don't you think that Sony should make a Nexus, too?

Sony Xperia Nexus... IMO that'd be a cool name:)
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
LG did that too withe the Optimus G :p And no, Nexus One (and Nexus S) don't get updates anymore
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Rumors are that next one will be a Motorola which makes more sense as they're owned by Google. That or Sony......
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
That will be great too, since Google will have even more 'controll' over the hardware (no suplly issues :p) but it would be amazing if the Nexus programme was open to all, not just one manufacturer per year.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
The next one from Motorola is rumored to be something different, not part of the Nexus line. Nexus line would continue to operate the way it does right now. So it is safe to assume that HTC has got a fair chance at it.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Merry Christmas guys!

I've decided to wait for the Find 5. Just hoping dev support is good and they stick to their price.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Is there any ROM for nexus 4 some of you could recommend to me? i want full functionality, close to stock but with cm10 tweaks and features... possible?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I would and still personally recommend AOKP with Franco kernel (which I under clock to 1248Mhz without any performance impact) see links in my signature. Both are regularly updated and very stable, kernel will greatly improve stock battery life. Ignoring half the ***** that fill the threads, both are closely monitored and involve good developer interaction.

Although I'll be honest i haven't really tried much else as I've been so happy with the extensive customization options, stability, speed and battery. (Got 17+ hours with 6.5 screen on - although 4+ is more normal)

What about your experiences to date, anything positive or negative to tell to?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Wow! 6.5 hours screen on time? That's insane! My DS only pushed an average of 2 and a half, and I was delighted my S2 pushed 4 hours yesterday with my new extended battery I got for Christmas! (50% brightness, WiFi mainly, around 1 hour gaming)

The N4 must have fantastic battery!

How's your new iPad? ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
the battery is only OK on stock, it's the kernel that made it, although that was quite exceptional! as i said normally four is my limit.

Can't say much about the ipad yet as the wife's not really let go of it long enough for me to play with it properly, which means it's already a huge success, will be very useful in the pregnant months to come, plus I've been too busy eating and drinking. What i have seen of it is quite wonderful.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
@Oly

On the subject of extended batteries, I still miss having the option of a second battery, I always had a spare to hand with the DS, I'm planning on investing in a small ~5000 power pack for me bag in the next few days, less than the cost of a replacement battery, similar weight to the phone, very impressive. Happy to take recommendations? If anyone has one.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
What a coincidence! I was browsing Curry's website this morning looking for some sales. This caught my eye.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/veho-v...81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istItemId=qqpxmxaq&istBid=t

Only a fiver! Not too sure if this is something similar to what you're after?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Blimey, very similar, although was hoping to get a couple of full charges from it rather than just one plus the slightly newer ones are better tech and therefore lighter for the a amount of charge they carry per gram.

Good find, incredibly cheap though.
[HTC Desire S] Juppehup:
How's battery life of the N4? And I not only mean screen-on time, but particularly talking-time/phone calls.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Nice find oly:thumbup:gonna try and get to the store this afternoon, or Monday to get one

Smoking is one of the leading causes of statistics.

- Fletcher Knebel
[HTC Desire S] fireblade:
That looks slick! And you can't go wrong for a fiver. Thanks to find that out, I'm gonna get hold of one asap :thumbup:
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Nexus 4 owners take a look..

http://bit.ly/XaiTS3

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
This issue had been fixed by latest Qualcomm patch that's in Franco kernel
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Breaking all the rules with double thread posting...

Thought that I'd best get in early and wish you all a Happy and wonderful New year.....

If you're planning celebrations - then enjoy yourselves!

Ben
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Reported ;)

I hope you all have an eventful and fulfilling 2013.

And for you new parents, cherish the year they seem to get a lot shorter with kids about.

Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.
[HTC Desire S] Juppehup:
Guess what made my day today.... :D

Verstuurd van mijn Desire S met Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
N4?
[HTC Desire S] Juppehup:
Yep

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Grats:D
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
You'll have much fun. Enjoy it :)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
its a thing of true beauty!
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
morning, milestone release of AOKP released earlier today for N4... see links in my signature
[HTC Desire S] Kolo39:
Hey guys... Have a small question :D

Which kernel do you use on your N4? At the moment I'm on stock kernel but from time to time the device gets pretty hot although I'm just browsing around. I've heard that bricked kernel is quite good... But do you have any recommendations for me?
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I certainly do. I've only really used Franco since the start and highly recommend it. I'd previously heard of the dev and was aware of his excellent reputation, so watching the kernel develop slowly since day one I've been greatly impressed with his both his style, level of pre release testing and the quality of support he provides. He hasn't daftly rushed into adding features at users request (such as UV which will only be added to a stable kernel), but has slowly and incrementally added commits in order to improve the stability and battery life of the kernel in each further build.

The easiest way to apply the kernels is to buy his application, but you can simply download it from the thread (see link in my sig) until such time you are happy to pay/donate.

The latest version which is build23 is excellent, the dev also appears to have good communication channels to Google and an awareness of all other relevant patches from a variety of sources ie Qualcomm, CM etc...

There are two further test builds 24-test and 25-test which are both works in progress as they further reduce the now greatly improved msm_hsic_host wakelock issues (that plagued the device early on) but both builds have slight 3G/H data issues, which are being worked on.

I'm aware there are also many more kernels and kernel developers...Motley, Harsh, Bricked, Trinity, Matriix, Faux and others (see N4 Index link in my sig for detils) so would be curious to also see what you others are on and hear of your experiences?
[HTC Desire S] Juppehup:
I had read the Nexus threads a bit too before I got mine. First thing I did when I unpacked it was charging, rooting and unlocking. Running Franco and AOKP for 1 and a half day now. Didn't have one hiccup or anything. Just loving the Nexus experience ;)

Verstuurd van mijn Nexus 4 met Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
End of an era.
[HTC Desire S] sadsac:
I'm moving to the n4 too, am in Australia

Decided I can make do with 16gb and Google music

Bit worried about all the glass, the ds has been tough and I don't like bumpers, cases, or screen protectors, but will have to see how it goes with the n4

Looking forward to buying into the nexus ethos, fed up of lag on sense and s-off and lack of kernel sources etc which hampers the devs

---------- Post added at 09:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 AM ----------

The n4 accessories forum has a few threads on this
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I completely agree that or shiny new full glass beauty will require a case to prevent reduce scratches and damage

Although I'm having difficulty in determining what each case will actually look like, so may well simply but a cheap full pouch style one initially to ensure protection until I can try out some others and actually judge what they will look like by seeing them in the flesh or waiting for decent comments and recommendation from you all

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Morning Ben.

Pouch is always a great compromise. Imho cases are adding too much bulk to ever growing phones, hence on my d.s I decided to remove case and screen protector. Keeping it in pouch when at work and so far no scratches of any sort. ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Morning welcome to the sanctuary.

Totally agree about the pouch, wish I'd done the same with DS, poor things looks battered and bruised

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] sadsac:
Saw a pouch recommended in the accessories column via a Google YouTube clip, it was called mofi or something
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Ok so here I am... I see most of you are sold on the n4. Wish I could join you guys there... but the s3 gives me all I want, and its only 5 months old, so I'm going to hold on to this baby for a little longer... maybe the s4 or the nexus 5 will coax me to move on...

But then who knows...? If you guys put in a room of awesome reviews about the n4, I may consider selling the s3 and switching to it... still have a truck load of reservations about an LG device...

I'm waiting for your reviews... Ben, you're up first.;)

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Google is gonna sell bumpers on play store.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
thanks, although with everyone laying into the glass back and front style design they'd be foolish not to, I'd personally be surprised if they don't release a full body case, in order to completely protect the beast. I'll ensure I'll check out what other accessories play is selling when ordering.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Well... It's just a phone my friend. You are always welcome in here with gs3 or whatever you shall get.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
I've never owned a phone that withstood so much (and so well) mistreatment as the DS. Shinny glass may well look pretty, but that aluminum body proved to be very very good.

I dropped it to the floor several times, it's dented on one corner with the true metal color showing, but it's still solid. Also the lip on the bottom prevented the screen from hitting the floor even when I dropped it face down into concrete (missed a couple of heart beats there).

I have no doubt that the N4, or any other current phone I might have bought, will never be this sturdy. I also now that we all will be very careful on the first few months, and then relax about it, and then the accidents will begin. But at the same time, I'm reluctant to put it in a case. What's the point of owning something beautiful Andy then hiding it?

But I have to think better about it, and try some stuff when they hit the stores and of course rely on reviews here. But screen protectors are off the table. In my opinion they reduce user experience, and that's just wrong.

Cheers

Sent from an undisclosed dimension