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[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Hi.

I've spent some qwality time with my desire s and this thing just refuses to die. ;) Cleared some unused apps, caches, temps, you-name-it and... I have a really snappy phone. Makes me wonder why do I want to change it? :D
[HTC Desire S] Jack_R1:
If you're happy with what you have - don't change. The only reason I changed my wife's DS (which is now going to my sister to persuade her to go the smartphone way) wasn't because of responsiveness or screen size, it was because GPS is the main thing she uses on it, and it was unbearable.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Can someone with an N7 please guide me, I'm not familiar with this stuff :p I flashed 4.2 a while ago through recovery (this ROM - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1991157) All is well so far, but now I would like to update the bootloader that came with 4.2 (this, maybe - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1989319) I'm still on the stock 4.1.1 bootloader. Now, what are the benefits (apart from the fix in boot to recovery bug)? Also, do I need to know about something, or is it just a simple flash via recovery like any other ZIP? I use TWRP, whatever the latest version is.
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Hi Shrome,

Sorry I can't be of any use as the only N7 I have is still the work one. I have had the official update to v4.2, but still haven't really got to grips with the unlocking, rooting etc game and need to be 100% certain before I attempt anything on it.

Not sure why all the complaints about v4.2 over v4.1.2 though as it seems fine to me.
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Hi shrome

I flashed the new boot loader via twrp from the same thread , it seems to be working as it should, also don't forget to update to the latest twrp it deals with the multi user issue and mis placement of backups :thumbup:

Edit: i have yet to try a 4.1.2 ROM on the new boot loader, so im not sure if its backward compatible when I'm feeling brave I'll give it a go and let you know :)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
From reading the N4 development threads it looks like decent progress has been made with custom recovery.

No update on N4 asop status from what I've read, although please correct me if I'm wrong?

Also, not surprisingly people are breaking/cracking the rear glass panel and scratching the front and then blaming the device construction.

I want it, I want it....<stomps feet like an inpatient child>

EDIT:

Partial N4 ASOP source available although not complete, some proprietary blobs must still be pulled from the phone (I believe the graphics and wireless LAN is missing). See N4 ASOP thread

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
cm_arcee has AOSP compiled.

http://t.co/8D7BnwXw

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] Fastrite:
Is this the secret (shhhh) N4 thread for ex-DS users? :D

Was thinking of getting one to but back on DS (with Andromadus JB now) after 5 months away and I'd forgotten how much I like it!

Hey lowfeld, do you reckon you may do a super speedy N4 reaper? PP
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
The first rule about this thread is that we don't talk about this thread. ;) :D

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Aaagh ...thank goodness for this little corner of xda, if I have to read about another person having issues with the back ups on their n7 with 4.2 I think I'm going to freak out :p I genuinely believe that a lot of users don't read anything posted more than one page back and just post the same thing in thread after thread and expect to be spoon fed everything by the rest of us who do read around the forums not just the thread of the rom I happen to be on at that particular moment... (rant over) :rolleyes:
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
For those not paying attention, they've managed to enable LTE on the N4 although most annoyingly not currently on the bands available in the UK, let's hope this is software and not hardware limitation

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2007943

Not that I bought the device for this, but would be a nice addition -for when it eventually gets delivered.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
LTE is a ***ing mess. The N4 has all necessary to work on band 4 lte and offload the voice calls to gsm.

If you'll be able to do that depends on network implementation, both hardware and software.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Ok guys. Moment of truth...

You may hate me know, but I'll tell you the story anyway.

Today I had a call from t-mob, trying to lure me back from three. They have offered free iphone 5 (16gb) and full monty plan for £36 a month (I believe that it's £41 normally) on 24 month contract. Full monty is unlimited everything - calls, texts and data. By the way - phone will come unlocked...

Well... I've decided to give it a go. Nexus 7 will give me my android fix and iphone will be my smart phone/ mobile hot spot. Obiously desire s will stay with me as my trusty backup device. If I shall hate ios badly, selling iphone will generate money to buy me any other phone.

Win? :D
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
April fools? ;)

Ebay Sell it and order an N4

O yeah, and you're dead to me. :D

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
No brainer: take the contract, ebay the soap bar, buy N4. You'll actually make money.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
lmao :D

I swear to Gawd that it's truth. I seriously need a simple phone, which is snappy, not too big, shooting great pictures, with decent batt life and solid build quality. Well?

I will sell it more likely after UK release of padfone 2... :cool:

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Btw, thanks for nothing Google a**holes... I really wanted to buy n4 and I just got a finger. Not nice, eh?
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Soap bar lol

Seriously though, I would never recommend an iPhone to anyone, but if you like the deal and think that it's the best phone for you, good luck :)

Oh, also, this -
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
I don't hate you - I have an iPhone 4 which work provided and it does exactly what I need it to for work (except for the cr4ppy signal strength).

You say about it coming 'unlocked' though? I thought that all iPhones are network unlocked when they are provided, but they automatically SIM-lock themselves to the network of the first SIM card inserted? I may be wrong, but that was my understanding of the situation and to then get it network unlocked you have to jail-break it.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Yeah, I know, but the deal is kind of sweet. As I said - I will more likely push it on ebay asap, but... :rolleyes:

I've never had iDung in my pocket, so maybe it's time to get my own opinion. We shall see...

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That's the thing. I need it for work.

That rep told me on the phone, that it will be unlocked.

By the way, nexus 7 have pretty much replaced my laptop for now. I guess people will learn to live without windows in the future.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Ok, this is a repetition of a post I made earlier and got overlooked in the n4 frenzy I guess... What would you guys recommend as a tablet to me? I already have a 4.85 inch screen, so going up by 2 inches doesn't seem like much of an upgrade... I was thinking more like the full 10 inch experience. From what I've read, the iPad still rules the tablet ecosystem... haven't heard roaring reviews about the n10. My folks are going to Dubai in December and I can snag myself any tablet I want to. Should I go ahead for the iPad, or is there a really really good tablet you guys have in mind? It would help if any of you that have an iPad +/- an android tablet could reply. The tablet would basically be for reading stuff like surgical approaches, medical journals etc at work.

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Transformer Prime with the keyboard dock.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
You've got one? How is it?

Also, I was thinking more in terms of the whole experience compared between ios and android as far as tablets are concerned. Now I can get my hands easy on an iPad from one of my colleagues to get a feel, but I don't know anyone around me with a 10 inch android tablet that is comparable to the iPad.

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
No one I know has an android tab at all, everyone has an iPad :p My uncle has a GS3 and iPad 2 and he likes the combo (though he's ntot a big techie).
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
No, I don't own one. Think it is a good device

Superkid has a transformer, could get some feedback :)

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
The original galaxy tab belonged to my dad full time before he got the iPad 3 in April. He never complained about the form factor, he found it great and he enjoyed it.

But after, he bought the iPad 3 he told me he found out what he was missing out on. He isn't a tech advanced power user, just a regular consumer, but after one day with the iPad he told me app quality is much more superior, and the system feels such more tuned for a tablet.

He does miss the freedom of Android, in the sense of customization etc, but he has become very used to the iPad now.

He also said after a while, 10" is sufficient, and I see that it has replaced his laptop function more than the Galaxy Tab did.

My dad also has several apps for his medical work/orthopaedic journals in the form of apps, which I have not seen on the android platform. If that is your main feature, I suggest you go with the iPad.

Also my dad said in his meetings etc now, iPads are becoming much more common for presentation, so there is a pretty strong future out there for the iPad.

We also use iPads now in sixth-form for projects on keynote, and it feels far more initiative for presentation on air play etc. Sad to say it, but now the iPad in this case wins by far over an android tablet.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'll agree with Oly's and Oly's Dads comments completely.

Having recently tried both a Galaxy 8.9 & 10.1 tab and a larger Lenovo which I was fortunate enough to be able to borrow from work and having tried a few friends differing generation of iPads over the last few years. The iPad is still without doubt miles ahead in experience.

The Android tablet environment is certainly coming on in leaps and bounds, I'm loving the recent addition of multi users accounts on JB for example but even this needs further work to cover bought applications, so is only half thought out at the moment.

Android will need more time for the developers to improve the ranger of applications so that they fit and look right on a tablet as they do so well on an iPad.

The wife wants ones this Christmas and I can see myself going for the iPad.

Our tablet use would be for on the lap, around the home, in bed browsing and hopefully air Play music integration where a tablet is just easier than a lap top and simplicity, style, beauty and ease of use will win over customisation options.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] reo_sam:
For reading up medical journals, it will be better to get an ipad since most of the journals tend to have an app for ios faster than for an android. Also, since you have a decent sized android device already, it will not hurt to have both the ecosystems for you.

Personally, as mentioned above, the ios devices have limitations but with an SIII, it will not hurt you.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Thanks a ton guys... iPad or is then. Need to research which generation I want now... I mean cost versus features etc... I'm pretty sure I'll go for a 3g model...

Time to go over to the dark side

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
If you're spending this much on a piece of tech, better go for the latest and greatest ;) iPad 4 has the best battery and performance, it will be the best choice :)
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Indeed. IMO, as great as the form factor of the iPad Mini is, it the hardware is pretty weak, as it is essentially an iPad 2. The iPad 2 is aging, and the A5 chip is quite old now and the screen is terrible once you've used a Retina display.

We currently have the iPad 3 which has the A5x chip, its great and all, but when I used the iPad 4 in the Apple store, I could certainly feel the speed difference in the new A6x chip. Not huge, but noticeable.

And since Apple discontinued the iPad 3, and replaced it with the iPad 4 at the same price, there's no loss there!

I would definitely recommend 32GB as your minimum option. 16GB is pointless especially as some huge games require up to 2GB. (due to high graphic images for the retina display)

Ours isn't 3G, but we don't really need it as the iPad stays in the house 90% of the time, and you can always turn your phone to a WiFi router should you need data.

Its up to you whether you want to pay the extra price for the 3G module.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Yep latest version certainly, probably 32gb, although as a non game player i may even consider the 16gb, how big are high quality full movie files?

@enigmaamit

With the sgs3 in your pocket I cant see the need for a 3g version

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Duders, do you really consider iPad 4 as worthy? It's the same as iPad 3, just with a better CPU. THAT'S ALL. But I'd ONLY get myself iPad 3 if I were a tech-keep-up-ing guy. Otherwise I'd get iPad 2.

Honestly, maybe I'm blind - but I don't see any difference between iPad 2's and 3's screen unless I stick my eyes like 2cm from the screen, then I notice atrifacts on iP2's screen.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
There's a HUGE difference between the iPad 2 and iPad 3 in terms of the screen. Retina display is very nice and once you get used to it there's no going back
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Well, I don't know.. Aside from the tech-specs (e.g. the mentioned resolution) I don't see any difference. Both iPad's 1 & 2 feel themselves pretty nice with their screen, IMO.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'd personally go for the latest just to future proof the purchase, as I don't intend replacing it until I can with an Android equivalent

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Why not the MS Surface pro ?

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Lol, duder, Apple is just gonna release iPad 5 next summer/autumn, so your iPad 4 will be just thrown out as a common trash, just like Apple did with iPad 3 by even removing it from the stores right after the announcement of iPad 4
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Have the iPad at home (daughters) and obviously the n7 and the s3 and to me all the pros and cons of apple v android can be applied to the tablets as well as the phones. Well and truly a nexus fan now and would take the n10 over the iPad every time, to be honest if I didn't own the n7 I'd buy an n10 tomorrow :D
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Fanboism aside, ipad 3 or 4 screen is pure pleasure to look at. Quality and amount of apps is also great. Wifey and sonny love it (3rd gen.), great family device.

However for my use n7 is better. This thing is darn sweet. I carry it around almost everywhere, hence my move to get an iphone to serve as a phone. N7 is simply the best pc I had. :cool:
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yes, but as I said in my earlier post, my point is that the iPad 4 is the same price as the iPad 3 was... so what's the point? You may as well buy it over the iPad 2.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'd like to see the N10 display alongside the iPads to make a true comparison. But will still be getting iPad for shared family use this year, maybe the next iteration of nexus tablet for myself next year.

N4 Update

While out in Sheffield this evening, ( I'm up North visiting some friends) I managed to find an O2 store with stock of the N4, it was initially attached to a security cable, but in my keenness I managed to detach that and set off the alarms, quite a funny moment, as a result I finally managed to touch the holy grail, it felt wonderful to hold, very slick, very impressed, as I've said before, hurry the ***K up Google I'm bored with waiting now.

Ben out. Night

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Which store, do they sell them SIM free?

It's only 8 miles from me:D

“Never trust a computer you can’t throw out a window.”

(Steve Wozniak)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Meadowhall, I'm afraid that i didn't ask about contract/payg deals as I've already got it back ordered, although I asked about the TV deal and the sales guy didn't have a clue what I was talking about, i only wanted to touch it. :D

Give them a call tomorrow?

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Might pop in during the week,I hate meadowhell(yes I said it correctly):D

But I can just about handle it mid week. Plus they have a sushi bar so it's a good excuse.

“Never trust a computer you can’t throw out a window.”

(Steve Wozniak)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I totally understand where you're coming from, that place is American mall sized, true hell on earth, I was in Doncaster so we drove there as the food choices alone were immense let alone shopping! Literally the nightmare before Christmas!

good luck with it.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] reo_sam:
For the intended medical applications / apps, the ios market is much better equipped right now. While Microsoft store is the least of the priorities in app world. At least in my experience.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Well surface pro comes with full windows 8, so can install any app that you want. Guess windows apps for medical stuff would be there.

At least to me surface pro is a real laptop replacement.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Interested in this myself. Technically the iPad 3 is not a retina display. Apple said the retina display is when our retina cannot distinguish between pixels, when the PPI is 300.

The iPad 3 PPI is only 273. If you've ever used it against a iPhone 4/5 you will note that is isn't as sharp. I noticed that immediately when I fist ever used a iPad 3. The iphone is 315PPI.

Now with the N10 at 300PPI, the screen will be much better. It should be as pin sharp as the iphone, and in if it follows Apples marketing, its technically a true retina display.
[HTC Desire S] Fastrite:
If it helps the Carphone Warehouse in Plymouth CC has 2 sim free and willing to sell them outright.

I set off the alarm so many times they took the attachment off! Was sorely tempted,:D

Edit: They want 110 quid more than Google...... Shocking
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
That's quite interesting. I've managed to detach n4 from the leash in Bedford's o2 shop as well. Boy I felt embarrased with that alarm screaming "thief! thief! thieeeffff!!!" ;) .

I wonder if it's because of glass back... Hmm...

Anyway, still waiting for iShame 5 to arrive, have bought funky orange case for it.

http://uk.cygnett.com/iphone/canyon-orange-bulldozer-silicone-case-for-iphone-5.html

I've also decided to separate my professional and private life, so... Desire S stays with me as my work phone, iDunno will serve as a gaming console when GTA vice city will hit app store. ;)
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Playing GTA-like games on a phone -
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
lol what? :D

Come on, I got fairly deep into gta 3 on nexus 7 using touch screen only. I was playing on d.s as well for a while, but single core is not enough for this game.

Ok, maybe it wasn't easy, but still fun and I got used to steering quite fast. Maybe I'm just talented... ;)
[HTC Desire S] c.m.b:
As an iPhone user you can buy a lot of useful accessories ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvuzBL2hJn8
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Dude, I can understand playing GTA type games on a tablet - at least it has a bigger screen and maybe you can attach an actual gamepad. But playing these kind of games on a PHONE with 3,5" screen? That's even worse than playing on a PC

Basically, playing shooters and GTA type games is just a pervertation
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Please ... the iPhone 5 is a massive improvement over the previous version. It has a 4" screen instead :p
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Plus it's taller, so you can see a lot more road ahead... :p

Sent from my sofa
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Not that it will correspond with what's out the windscreen

“To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer.”

(Paul Ehrlich)
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Har har har... Nice one. Gotta get those rubber balls. :D

@all

Yeah, I could see this coming. Keep on laughing... :D
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
So much for the bigger screen that now iFail looks like a sausage
[HTC Desire S] reo_sam:
Not really. In my experience, there are 2 journals for which they provide iOS apps, in which the whole content (right from recent to past) is free. While there is no android app, no windows app or software to get that. The only other alternative is web subscription.

And just on those two yearly subscriptions, the iPAD's cost gets recovered. :p
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
And finally some news just emailed from Google

"Your Nexus 4 order is scheduled to ship this week. We’ll send you a notification, including tracking information, when it’s on the way."

I'll believe it when I see it.

Fortunately I've been trialling an i9305 from work , which will keep me busy until the end of the week.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
A little tear of pure joy just came out of my left eye...
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Great news finally! :)

Wow, they gave a you a S3 for work to keep?
[HTC Desire S] PVL_93_RU:
Let's just hope that it'll finally reach you after all these days of waiting
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I wish Oly :D I manage the IT contracts for my local council, including the telephony ones, one being T-Mobile who we use for mobile and 3g-dongles and wifi-pointers. I requested trial devices a month or so ago, through their business trial scheme and yesterday a brand new One X and i9305 arrived. I wasn't expecting new devices for a start!

The default phone in the office is the DS (which certainly has made my life easier!) although unfortunately that is now classed as end of line. I know the One X quite well as a few friends have them I've loaned that to a colleague and I'm trialing the s3(4g) myself. Although I only have them for a month.

i9305

I must say its lovely - the speed alone is such a step up from the DS experience, the webpage rendering and scrolling difference is just un-real. very impressed with the Touch Wiz interface to the notifications, Settings and Quick Settings, although am running Nova launcher rather than stock.

I'm actually finding the screen a touch on the large size, not for viewing its lovely for that! but to get my thumb to reach the top is quite a stretch, probably need to alter my reach which will come with time. Really dislike the hard home button at the bottom - IMO three normal buttons like DS would be better. Camera is very good. Have the white device which I surprisingly don't mind, although seems highly impractical. Device is very thin and very light - the thinned right and left edge make it a comfortable to hold.

But don't want to get to used to or fall in love with the i9305 as I've the N4 hopefully coming later this week, I have Thursday and Friday off as holiday so am hoping it turns up then. Will be nice to compare the two monster devices together.

Plus, I must remember to return the trial devices otherwise we're invoiced in full for them! :(
[HTC Desire S] GideonB234:
I have to admit I really like the S3 screen (some of my friends own the phone) compared to my DS screen mostly because I can actually watch anime on it and read the subs (never been able to do that on my DS and I'm literally just able to on my Galaxy S)

Hoping that when the N4 hits vodafone I can get the upgrade on the cheap and I can upgrade from the Galaxy S

Flashing a new ROM each month or so is annoying as it means I have to spend an hour or so doing that