yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Don't forget to put some insulating tape over all that exposed copper... You just want the ends exposed.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] non1oson:
so this really works? wireless charging just sounds like it wouldn't exist lol. how good does it charge and how exactly?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Reb0rn:
You never heard of Nikola Tesla?

He in theory proved that you can deliver electrical current thru the air or via the clouds...

Imagine having free electric. Now who do you think doesn't want that to happen ;)

Nuf OT.

Is it a must to have copper tape? How about thin gold tape? ;)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] non1oson:
how far do you have to be from a device? and generally everywhere you got there is one readily available?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
the phone needs to be docked
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
It's a very simple principle that's been around for decades... Electric toothbrushes have used it for years due to the safety around water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] CitizenLee:
I meant to ask this in the other thread but I'll ask here...

Does this affect the S-Pen function since it uses magnets?

I have all the parts ready to go but am slightly hesitant.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] mikelav456:
Can this be done, and has it been, on the sprint version?

sent from my sgs2e4t running cm10.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] erick161:
Subd
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Apparently this mod does not dowrk with: (Taken from the first page of Ryan_G's wireless thread...

US TMobile Note II SGH-T889 (Has the charging pins for wireless charging)

Please see http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1978276

AT&T Note II (Same as US TMobile, has the charging pins but doesn't work)

Sprint Note II (has no slots for charging pins, but confirmed working when taking the middle housing cover off and finding the wireless charging contacts underneath)

Have a look at this http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=240
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Ryan_G:
Nope it doesn't affect any of the S-Pen function or even the compass, and NFC work normal aswell. The magnets are not strong plus the battery seems to shield it from the rest of the phone. I use the s pen for notes practically everyday for my job, I've also attached a screenshot of the Wacom Test which you can enter by dialing *#0*#
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] CitizenLee:
Awesome, thanks mate!

That gives me the confidence I need to get it done :good:
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Ryan_G:
no problem
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Post no. ........ 666 .......
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] CitizenLee:
Post of the Beast :p
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] jimsey:
I've modded mine with powermat coil, much stronger than the palm touchstone, charges faster but the magnet effects the pen slightly

The copper foil is a good idea, especially widening the phone contacts.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
I've ordered a powermat set with the white square thingy universal adaptor yesterday and hopefully arrive tomorrow. Do you mind telling us where the positive/negative terminals are, and if you have pictures, that would be great. One problem though is my N7100 is literally on its way back to the rainforest, i'll order the 7105 as soon as I can .
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] jay_jay_n:
in this thread someone said they were able to do the mod on the at&t version can anyone confirm that it doesn't or does?

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2/636637-wireless-charging.html

also can we use a cover from the pixi??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Palm-Pi...829492?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27be15e134
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] gordonzhao:
For the T-Mobile version I believe the only limiting factor was the kernel. It is SUPPOSE to work with the current stock one, but the kernel dampers the charging rate. Whereas the Perseus kernel allows the inductive charging to charge at a faster rate. I'm open the trying this as I didn't want to do any soldering. But the thing is I have a thin hard back case and without the phone's weight, just with the case, back door and magnets in place the back door wouldn't stay so I'm debating what do to....I'd definitely prefer to keep my case.

Any way to increase the magnet strength?

This would all be resolved if Sammy would just release the the Note II and S3's back door and mat!! Or Zens for that matter.

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The pixi cover won't fit your Note 2. Or it may at least take 2. ;)

EDIT:: Looks like Zens released their version of wireless charging for the S3 recently, but it's only available in the EU so far. Argh.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] mgrey:
Canadian i317M (Bell Canada) is working with wireless charging

I can confirm that the Canadian i317M (Bell Canada) is working with wireless charging.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] gordonzhao:
After doing some more reading it appears the Galaxy and Nexus devices of course are Qi, whereas the palm was not. Which is why a non-modded Nexus will not work on a Palm Touchstone. Even though I have the hardware I think I'll wait for the official back door and pad from either Samsung or Zens. But it is great to see people making use of the technology that is in place, even if the manufacturer is a bit behind on it.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
The other pro of this touchstone method is the cost. Delivered mine comes to about $26 for all components and charger through ebay.

The S3 package is $85 + post so you're looking at ~$100 all up.

The adoption of wireless charging in public spaces wont really take off for another 12-24mths anyways, by which time the Note 3/4 will bound to have a universal standard :P
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
It's confirmed by users here at Xda that it does not work on AT&T units

I think you can, because the coils are the same size, but the terminals are not located in the same spot (from what I have read) so you have to find them correctly. If you search on ebay, some hongkong sellers sell modded pixi units to work on Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Frank2:
I made a tutorial for pre and pixi-coils, but it is in german. But you can see pictures:

http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/11/b...en-fur-das-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-nachrusten/
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] bluem6:
I've use the cover from a Pixi and have no problem with it so far...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1945582&page=11
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] jay_jay_n:
aww that sucks wish it worked on att =\
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] bluem6:
there's a member on here who did this mod and said it's working on his AT&T note 2..
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Aanze:
I must be stupid, but.. even if it looks great, I don't understand how to charge wirelessly once this is done ? I mean, this has to be put on something right ?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
just connect to your wireless router and it will charge automatically....

seriously, you need, the palm touchstone dock, and a 5v with at least 1amp charger with a mini usb connector :
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
Lol the ultimate hybrid fusion charger in the pic above

HP Palm Touchstone

Nokia Microusb cable

HTC Wall plug

:P

Can you drive the touchstone with a 2A charger such as the with the original note 2 charger or is it its input capped at 1A?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
yup, I used my Nexus 7's charger with the palm touchstone and it worked....
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
Does it charge faster compared with using 1A? So the touchstone can ramp up the charging rate?

I would have thought output would be capped. Also even though you're using a 2A charger the touchstone is only drawing 1A?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
I never checked it, but I don't think it does.

edit:

I think it was confirmed by Ryan_G in his wireless charging thread that the power draw was limited by the phone...
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
The phone normally can take 2A though?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
yes that's from the mini usb port though...
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] hav0c:
There is always loss using wireless charging. The most effective forms currently deliver power at an efficiency of +/- 86%

So If your charger is 2A you will get 1.72A max.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Frank2:
You will get max. 500 mA cause it is limited.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] hav0c:
So this means it will take 7.44 hours to fully charge the 3100 mAh battery with 500 mA charging power. Add roughly an hour for the 14% loss (maybe more) and that's about 9 hours to fully charge your N7100 battery. That's pretty long it you ask me.

I like to order the suggested supplies but I hope there are faster charging units around. Or is the 500 mA limited by the phone?

Can anyone using this mod do a measurement on charge times please?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] americasteam:
I believe it's limited by the kernel.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Frank2:
Maybe. I have the perseus kernel with maximal charging rate 900mA but I still have max. 500 mA with the touchstone.

I wrote about it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1951493&page=27
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
The author of persius kernel has confirmed that it does not affect wireless charging power draw. This was confirmed by a user who did the wireless mod.

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On a different topic,I have dissected a powermat universal wireless charger and posted pics on this thread, post #2
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] :
Maybe you should add to "you need: " that 'Palm Touchstone' is also required?

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Does this work with the mod or will it not work? I want to buy this mat instead of the palm and mod my phone. Will it also work with this mat or only with the palm?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
I believe only with touchstone. (Unless we find a different wireless receptor coil with Qi standard)

The mat uses the Qi standard.

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So based off this logic the touchstone charges at 430 mA vs micro usb at 2A which will take more than 4.6 times as long?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
Thanks for the investigation. Would be awesome if we could get Qi standard for our GN2.

Found an extended back door cover with extra space which looks like it could accommodate the receiving unit.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-6500...ies&hash=item27cc178b24&_uhb=1#ht_1538wt_1397

What do you think?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Already thought of that extended battery case but its so fugly, so I ain't gonna bother. Maybe if there is only a very slight bump then I may consider. I have looked at QI chargers but they are way too expensive.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Ryan_G:
QI Charger Mod

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33861324&postcount=77
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
hhhmmmmnn... I'm drooling!!! LOL

thanks for the link
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] hav0c:
To answer the question using a calculator this time instead of nothing :P

To be exact:

The 2000mA (2A) charger will in theory fully charge the 3100 mAh battery from 0% to 100% in 1,33 hours.

The 430mA touchstone charger will in theory fully charge the 3100 mAh battery from 0% to 100% in 7,12 hours.

So this is 5,356 times as long :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] m0nkeyf00t:
from reading the thread I'm pretty sure the answer is yes but I figured I'd ask to see if anyone has tried it.

I have a touchpad and the charging touchstone dock that goes with it, can I use that instead of the pre dock? anyone tried it yet? also pics a bit unclear for me is the rolling done at all contact points?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] MDB2313:
This looks like it would work with a Galaxy S3..... Does anyone know if this will work? I will have to try it next weekend if no one has.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Powermat, touchstone, and qi standard are not interoperable. So you need both transmitter and receiver for each to work.

Sorry dont know about toucpad. Yes the rolling are for the contact points on the toustone, and the ones on the contacts on the phone.

It will work on S3, just different layout.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] erick161:
Im pretty sure it will. And it should charge faster too.

EDIT: just did some digging...and sadly no. The touchpad touchstone isnt compatible with any pre/pixi/etc
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] MDB2313:
Thanks for such a quick reply!:good:
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] g.moggel:
Yeay

hey OP.

thanks for your mod this works even through my tpu case. i already ordered small magnets to make it stick better.

cheers,

mo
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] wrapper:
Just ordered all the kit for my N7105, feeling more confident now that soldering is out! What is the cleanest way to secure everything down?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
Just some electrical tape over everything except the contacts works well :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] rayarny:
tried the mod..Exactly the way its described. Cant make it to work for some reason! :(
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] liqn7:
Have you checked your contacts are alligned? That was my biggest problem, took a while to get the folds right so the contacts would allign.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] rayarny:
As far as I know...I think they are... My only concern is if the touchstone needs another charger, from which Iam feeding it through! :S
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Have you checked the touchstone is working? if you dont have a multimeter then dock the touchstone properly. If you hear a buzzing sound then it works. Then check your contactsand make sure they are properly seated and put something on top to put a bit of pressure when you close the back cover of the phone.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] SS2006:
i couldnt get this to work for the life of me

the pics on the OP kind of confuse me, do they have to be rolled at the ends, whats with all the arrows,

can someone post a vid of doing this from scratch :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] dalgibbard:
Just thought I'd drop a note to say thanks! This worked fantastically. Took a bit of playing around to get the size of the rolls right (tip- roll them large and try and wedge them in the appropriate contact gaps for best contact! Then unroll/re-roll until the back cover fits again! I also did a three fold roll on the back cover strips which make contact with the ones on the main phones body for a better connection)

I also used small pieces of folded paper, placed above the rolled copper, above the contacts, with a bit of cellotape just to apply enough pressure to hold the bits in place anyway :)

Basically, bodge it! Make sure contacts are solid!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] wrapper:
Fantastic instructions, got it working on my device today. Like the above poster said, just make sure the contacts are secure and it works great.

Thanks for the links too, the bits came really quick.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] tonylee000:
Ordered the parts today! Palm pre touchstone back cover - £3.50, copper tape £1.85, and palm touchstone dock - £5.25. Thats £10.60 altogether!! Beats paying £43 from hong kong, dread to think how much they are in the shops! !

Will report on how successfull I am :/

Vodafone UK n7100 xxalij

From what im seeing, some varients arnt working and its the kernal thats being blamed, could these devices be made compatible by flashing a supported rom?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Hi all, just updated the Op explaining a littlr bit more...
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] slapshot136:
can anyone suggest a Qi compatible backplate that would be suitable for salvaging the coil/circuit from? I would like to do this mod, but with the Qi standard
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] americasteam:
For anyone having issues getting this to work, make sure to roll up enough foil at the edges of the case so its thick enough to make contact with the rolled up foil located on the phone contacts. Also, it helps to lay the case down side by side as shown in the op to line up the foil with the contacts.

I couldn't get it to work last week on my first try. I was over thinking the whole thing when it's really very simple. I put it down and picked it up again a few minutes ago. Only took ~10 minutes this time.

Just saying for anyone trying with no success to give it a few more tries. ;)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] twistedvision76:
Will the mod work the same if I cut the pieces and overlap them instead of double folding?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Problem is with the sticky side. The sticky acts like insulation.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] SS2006:
does the copper have to be insulated

in ur pics its not right? is the idea that no copper should be showing at all
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] SS2006:
i got it working, but its so hard to pinpoint that sweet spot so it charges, and the plate is SO small it just slides off

id like to see a qi solution, this is too slow :(

id love to see batteries with built in Qi :D
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] gordonzhao:
Have all the materials for the mod, realized it doesn't work for the T-Mobile T889 without the port replacement.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] SS2006:
im gonna try this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Ch...576017?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2324a3e491

ALSO, is this guy for real? qi standard?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsun-Gala...948827?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a46cdcdb
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] geopatr:
I bought the first one you're planning on buying. It works fine. Install takes 5 minutes. I use it for over night charging. Nice and easy to use. Just like my old Palm Pre but 4 times bigger!!! LOL!!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] slapshot136:
that won't be any time soon, as the batteries need to be cheap for replacement purposes - the Qi circuitry isn't cheap, but not only that, the battery charging circuitry would also need to be there, as that needs to be between the Qi receiver and the battery (which is currently inside the phone)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] gordonzhao:
30 bucks for the plate? That's the same as the palm one. Which Note II variant do you guys have?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] MDB2313:
This is close http://androidcommunity.com/htc-droid-dna-wireless-charging-dock-hands-on-20121113/ Hopefully Samsung starts doing this with their phones.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] tonylee000:
Didnt work first time :/ made some common sense modifications and its now working sweet :D

Cant believe the modification is this easy and cheap and yet the one made for this phone is so damn expensive!!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] jug6ernaut:
Has anyone tried using stronger magnets like N42's? Im considering buying them so i could use this for a car mount. Mod done successfully btw :D. I made it a little difficult for myself by (identically) buying hte Pixi back plate and stained glass foil tape... Everything worked out tho once i got a MultiMeter to test things hehe.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] m055:
Great stuff O.P. worked first time, I first tried it on my original battery cover, there is a slight bulge but nothing too serious, I ordered some more parts to do my flip cover, that went really well, there's no bulge whatsoever, but for some reason the magnets aren't as strong, it holds but not as well.

For anyone who is having problems I have posted a guide on YouTube

[YOUTUBE]jHw1QIPwkZU[/YOUTUBE]

Hope it helps

M
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] dingokevin:
Anyone know of a shop I could buy the copper tape in San Diego?

This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] rj3005:
I brought it on ebay
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] dingokevin:
Yea I know I can get it on eBay was just hoping to pick it up locally

This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] twistedvision76:
I found it locally at Grainger. Not sure if they have them in San Diego

Edit: they do have Grainger supply stores in San Diego. Branch # 725 and 723. See which one is closer and has stock.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] djashjones:
Just done mine and it does not work :(

I wonder if i have damaged the board while trying to prise it out of its case!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
Check the contacts, put some pressure specially the ones on the touchstone.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] djashjones:
just put my meter on it and nothing!

Then i got to thinking. i wonder it might because ive got it plugged in to a powered USB hub instead of the power outlet directly!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] twistedvision76:
Didn't work for me either unfortunately... will try again tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] dingokevin:
got it all set up and it works on the latest PA :p:good:

This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] dingokevin:
Just cannibalised my spek case but I got some protection and able to charge. Lucky I got the case for free so no loss here.

This PSA was Swyped out on my Paranoid Note 2 N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] djashjones:
gonna order another one and try again. maybe i damaged it prising it out of the case!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] al52025:
i did this mod exactly and y is it i get my voltage read at the contact points of the touchstone sticker but by the time i fold the copper over and try to messaure current it doesnt go through the copper wire?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] slapshot136:
how exactly are you trying to measure the current?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] al52025:
i managed to get this mod work i had to press really hard down on the copper tape over the contacts for it to read a voltage.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] djashjones:
my new case came and tried the mod again and finally got it working. its charging now! :D
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] winlinmac001:
so, this doesn't work on tmobiles? what about AT&T? if not Tmobile, how come AT&T? :(:confused:
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
because the Tmobile needs the holes and some sort of internals IIRC, but there is a mod for it look in Tmobile Note 2 forum...
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nite4evr:
I'm using Rogers SG Note II, did the mod but mine kept flashing the popup(wireless charging). Seems like it's On/Off/On/Off/On/Off/etc etc...

any solution? I checked both device with a DMM, and it seems to be functioning properly.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] nm8:
the contacts might not be connecting properly. Try to puy pressure on the contacts or create creases on the contact points. PLease let us know how you get on.

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I have a version 3 of the mod, but it requires soldering.

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