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[HTC One X] PhilipL:
Hi

You have described precisely the symptoms of the heat sink not working correctly. The whole point of the heatsink is that the heat from the CPU is dissipated out over the back, which happens to cover an area of the battery. Many people think the battery is getting hot, it isn't the battery, it is the heat from the CPU copper heat spreader warming the battery and the back. I'd be interested to know where you bought a replacement copper heatsink for the HTC One X and if it was a legitimate part and has been installed correctly. If you can only feel heat where the CPU is, the heat spreader isn't working, and you risk damaging the CPU.

How can a battery have an incompatibly with a CPU?

Of course resistance will cause heating, but lithium batteries already have low internal resistance compared to other types of battery, and there has been no major break through in lithium batteries between the HTC One X and X+ that would suggest we should see 5 or 10 degrees of temperature difference between charging or usage due to improved internal resistance.

This is an unscientific experiment with subjective results for temperature that is more likely evidence of a badly re-installed heat spreader. The higher capacity battery if anything should be hotter in use and not cooler as it is supplying and requiring more energy.

In theory the battery should give you approximately 15% more run time. Lets consider these batteries may become available for purchase, do we know if they are genuine parts really rated at 2070mAh or just cheap copies with a lower capacity? Is it worth opening your phone, damaging the copper heat spreader, removing the motherboard with potential for ESD damage or other physical damage, just for a 15% increase in battery life you may or may not notice? In addition without a software change or even hardware change, you might not get all that extra capacity depending on this batteries rated voltage extremes, for example the voltage that determines a flat battery may be lower on this cell than the current one, which means the phone shuts off for a flat battery sooner than it should, leaving capacity in this larger battery you can't realise.

Regards

Phil
[HTC One X] miHah:
Don't worry about copper foil, it is original copper foil from HTC, placed as before with functionality as before. Cpu heat is spreaded as before, but there is less heat to spread so I can only feel some warmth just below the cam, not extra hot as before! I changed those foils on bunch of phones so I know exactly how to do it. I did not damage the phone, I followed the htc service advisory, so please have a little trust :) if I have original one x+ battery, original copper foil, htc service advisory and knowledge .. where did I get it from? Where do I work? :)

How can a battery have an incompatibly with a CPU?

I was talking about heat compatibility. If battery and cpu provide major heat = bad thing ; if only cpu provides warmth = much better ..right?

Yes, those are speculations and I agree. But thats why I put the hox+ battery to the test :) ive got nothing to loose and something to get.. :) cheers
[HTC One X] shree.cse:
@miHah

Happy Birthday

Looking forward for your 4th update. Thanks
[HTC One X] Beyazid:
That sounds really good and I hope these extra 300 mAh will result in much better results.

I hope it will be available in different stores so I can change it together with my backcover because it has scratches on the camera glass.

Should be a good investment ;)

I´m waiting for the results:good:
[HTC One X] gcd:
Can you check battery capacity (mah value) with battery monitor widget? I'm really wondering if it shows 2100 mah. (probably it will show 1800 mah)

I'm asking this because htc sometimes write mah value to kernel(like in desire hd) and because of that, battery percentage will not show correct value. It will stuck on %15 (until extra 300mah power finishes) and then it becomes normal

If it is like that, i couldn't find a way to calculate mah value on the fly with desire hd kernel(modded kernel with my new battery mah solved that problem)

If it shows 2100 mah, we have no problem :)
[HTC One X] miHah:
Readings seems to be correct :)
[HTC One X] nabeel1124:
Amazing!
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Thanks for great thread !

Positive feedback:

1- Cooler phone -> more battery life and expectancy (batteries die mainly because of constant heat)

2- 17% capacity + max 20% better efficiency should give around 20-25 % more battery life time

3- Higher performance (due to cooling effect)

i hate to be the guy with the negative feedback, but:

1- 17% more lifetime (numerically)

2- Difficult to switch batteries, and impossible to use the old one as a spare(unless you make a hole in the back cover xD)

3- Very expensive (i would predict 40 USD atleast)
[HTC One X] -Zork-:
It's a very good news , kepp follow and see it possible to upstate battery :D

Enviado desde mi ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T usando Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] jmkhenka:
Price of One X+ battery should be in line with one x, i have seen them on online stores here in sweden and they are not much more expensive then for say, SGS3.
[HTC One X] m00nlighter:
@miHah

If you have access to HTC service advisories and spare parts for a new X+, you're probably working at a HTC authorized service center.

Now the most important question is whether HTC is going to issue a service advisory that _authorizes_ replacing the original battery with the 2100 mA/h one.

I highly doubt it, because the batteries have different part numbers and operating voltages. However, it would actually be a right thing for HTC to do.

They screwed up big time with the original battery capacity. Now they should at least allow their loyal customers to pay extra in order to amend the original One X battery capacity miscalculation by HTC themselves.
[HTC One X] miHah:
@m00nlighter

I did not follow the advisory completely by the book as I changed the battery with different part number tho :)
[HTC One X] neuTrue:
@miHah:

Now that's what I wanted to know and you confirmed it! :)

By the way, I remember you once said something about the extra copper foil that One X+ has. Can't, we apply an extra foil for One X as well? Also, what do you think about using a thermal paste along with the copper foil?

Just out of curiosity, how much do you think or estimate One X+ motherboard?

Finally, before I forget *from happiness*.

Thanks

for your impressive work :)
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Thanks for the updates!

Well, for the ones who are curious about why HTC won't sell the battery all alone, in Turkey of course, you can not just purchase any spare part for the HTCs legally from the dsitributor itself. They only sell it to you, if your send your device to them and the diagnosis shows a need for a replacement. So, of course it is not impossible to get a genuine HOX+ battery from another country, it is not possible to get a HOX+ battery from HTC in Turkey.

Well of course, it is a 3rd world country etc etc. :)
[HTC One X] CarstenDutch:
Lol I was afraid the woman would break the phone in half!!!
[HTC One X] A Stoned Raichu:
bdata berboth

Where can you actually purchase a genuine one x+ battery at a decent price? i cant seem to find any except china fakes
[HTC One X] mromantan:
Fisrt proper cycle on the One-X+ battery

CM10.1 B7, Xm 153, Smartmax-ROW-1500

Left is 15 %

Maybe will get better on the next cycles, not too impressed though
[HTC One X] Asdoos:
Look at 1-2 pages before ...
[HTC One X] prokshit:
Try some stock modded roms... N try battery calibration apps on Market.
[HTC One X] fireblade:
any update on the shipment?

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[HTC One X] Asdoos:
would be very intteressting :)
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

I m waiting for the battery shipment. Please, can you tell us when you shipped or will ship batteries?
[HTC One X] 0skill:
AW: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

In ebay the battery is marked as shipped but I am not sure if this is correct because they told us that this is/was a pre order

Gesendet von meinem HTC One X mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] wineds:
See post #361
[HTC One X] stezo2k:
Any word on the One battery?
[HTC One X] Abu.:
I have a HTC One S and the battery is the exact size of the HOX, charges and runs great can't wait for the One battery info.
[HTC One X] adi_ilie:
I've changed my HOX's battery with one of HOX+.

So..in several days I'll post the new stats.

But I have a question: Where I can check the new capacity, to be sure that it REALLY HAS 2100 mAh? (I know that is not exactly 2100, but it has to be OVER 2000 mAh :D ). I mean, the capacity IS detected by any program or it will still show 1800 mAh despite it has 2100 mAh?

My phone is not rooted and with stock rom...'cause it still has warranty.

My battery was changed in the authorized service in my country and the total price (battery + intervention) was 33 Euro.
[HTC One X] 0skill:
AW: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Lol only 33 euro from were are you
[HTC One X] mightymike2012:
Where you replaced your battery? I m from bucharest....how long did u wait for it?
[HTC One X] adi_ilie:
I've replaced the battery at our authorised service center in România. The name of the firm is Cordon Electronics (But I don't know if they are in Bucharest or Cluj).

But the replacement took a while, because I also wanted to replace my screen ( yelow spots and it was still in warranty) and there's only one authorised HTC repair center. So..it took almost a month. It was a long story..first they waited for some rubber/sponge to put inside around the screen, but they forgot to change the battery. I've called them and I had to wait for 10 days more till they had the components, battery and the special heat dissipation foil and after they wanted the money, but my payment confirmation wasn't enough, they wanted their confirmation...typically.

Now I finally have the phone..and I wander if they put the 2100mAh battery or not :P . It feels heavier but since I don't have another HOX to compare..I wander where I can verify the battery..
[HTC One X] mightymike2012:
They are Cordon center in bucharest....you should request a receipe or a document where the series and the model of the battery are written...
[HTC One X] adi_ilie:
And after? I have the papers, but it's not like I can verify inside the phone if the series and model are exactly those that they claim to be :D

Until I will see the autonomy, I will grant them benefit of the doubt..and to be honest, I don't think that they have done such thing, to put a 1800 mAy battery and claim that it has 2100 mAy. But..I just want to be sure :D

PS: I had the "brilliant" ideea to weight my HOX. It showed 133 g. Official specs: 130 g HOX, 135 HOX+...so..nothing clear :D.

PS: if someone can point me an app that can "read" the real capcity of the battery..I would be grateful :).

Thx.
[HTC One X] mightymike2012:
Test the battery juice....i hope is the right one
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Weight it without sim card!
[HTC One X] wineds:
See post #257
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
Just got an email from Luke. Batteries have been shipped.
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Thanks man. I contacted him but no answer..:S Do you know how much time we have to wait ? I want to test this battery :D
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
Depending on how he sent them we may expect them anytime this week. Ebay shows an eta between 14th - 16th March. I'm hoping they get to people much sooner than that. I seriously can't wait to add more juice to my phone :)
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Where did u see the eta? :eek:
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
Got to My eBay > Purchase History > Click your battery > Look under the Postage section. Mine says.. Delivery:

Estimated between Thu. 14 Mar. and Sat. 16 Mar.

This was my email to Luke :

Hi Luke,

Any news on the pre - ordered HTC One X+ batteries?

Thanks

Sunny

And he replied:

Yes they have all been shipped, People should start receiving them now :)
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

For me the estimated delivery is 27 Feb and 5 Mar, because I bought it on 19 Feb and the seller marked it as shipped many a few days ago.. Hope to get it soon :)
[HTC One X] D000XXX:
And what's up with the One batteries, they have 2300mAh so they may be to big, but I'm curious :)
[HTC One X] danlat1415:
Has anyone got theirs delivered from Luke off Ebay?
[HTC One X] 0skill:
AW: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Not now but I think my one will arrive next week
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
Not yet.. Should get it anytime next week.
[HTC One X] Luke Simpson:
Genuine HTC 35H00197-00M Battery - One X+

Sorry for the late reply everyone i have been out of the office with man flu. These were all shipped last monday and tuesday by royal mail and should be with you all any day now.

If you have any problems or delivery issues please feel free to email me at luke@2buya.com and i will reply as soon as possible.

Regards

Luke

2buya.com
[HTC One X] Andrew Lin:
Are you talking about international one x or one xl?
[HTC One X] pradeepvizz:
international one x that's the forum you are posting in if you are not aware, the other one has a different forum
[HTC One X] Andrew Lin:
I have both one xl and one x,and I wonder if there's another larger battery compatible for them.
[HTC One X] prokshit:
i want to order one battery too.. but i dont know how i can pay u..i dont have paypal and here in india ,in gobaleasybuy option ur battery is not listed.. plz give me some solution. and i have only a debit card.
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Register you and ur debit card to paypal. Then u can pay with it.
[HTC One X] pradeepvizz:
You can use your credit card to pay in connection to paypal too.
[HTC One X] tgusta:
Today I have purchased 2 batteries from Luke. As soon as they arrive I'll post here the results :) (it can take up to 2 months to arrive here in Brazil :( )

Should I replace the copper foil, or I can take care and use the same?
[HTC One X] W0RSCHD:
AW: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

You can take care and use the same. No problem at all.

Sent from OneX using ARHD
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
Just received my battery. I'll start swapping it asap :D
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Where do u live?
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
England, South west. Colnbrook
[HTC One X] wineds:
if you find you need copper tape this might be an option. available at most hardware stores

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Corry-s-15-ft-Slug-and-Snail-Copper-Tape-715/100662157
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
Battery replaced :) I'll charge the phone to 100% and re-calibrate the battery. My old battery was glued down to the chassis so i'd advice anyone with a similar thing to carefully remove it because you might damage the ribbons passing under it.
[HTC One X] danlat1415:
Mine arrived this morning too. Thanks Luke.

I'll see if I've got time to fit mine tonight.
[HTC One X] adi_ilie:
After several days of use of my new battery, here are my conclusions:

The battery has, indeed, 2100mAH. Tested it with "Nova battery tester".

My settings are stock rom, latest firmware, international HOX. Also GSM only, WiFi ALL the time, autosync, autobrightness. I'm not a heavy user, maximum 2h of screen on/charge , mainly mails, FB, browsing, calls and sms, less gaming\music.

With this settings and my old battery, I had only in exceptional cases over 2h (averege was around 1h30m, best was 2h42m) of screen on in 15-16h of autonomy before my battery was completly empty (those were the stats from GSam Battery Monitor for 2-3 months of continuos usage).

With my new battery, same settings and usage, I have over 2h of screen on(around 2.30h-2.45h)/charge, and the autonomy is around 1day and 4-6h (28h-30h)till the battery reaches 3-5%.

Since I don't use heavily the phone, I can't tell what's the new maximum screen on time. As an estimation, I think that it can be over 3h in 15-19h of autonomy even if gaming\music.

But, this is stock rom and 4.1.1. it's a nightmare from the point of view of deep sleep (my autonomy is far worse with JB than how it was with ICS). So probably, with a custom rom or, ad least, with a new stock kernel\rom, the autonomy should improve considerably.

Till then, I can use my HOX for a full day, as much as I want, without being afraid of runing out of juice, as it was before.

This is not stellar autonomy, but, nevertheless, a great improvement over the standard one, offered by stock battery.

Also, it seems to me, that the phone is not overheating so much as with the stock battery.

So, in conclusion,I'm very satisfied now and the price (33 euro) is well worth it.
[HTC One X] prokshit:
@pradeepvizz & @Mikyno ,

Thanks .. i m working on it!
[HTC One X] n3ocort3x:
Hey Guys :) Can anyone link me please to the store / ebay store where u buyed the 2100mAh battery ?? would highly appreciate that...

EDIT:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350717040129?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

this one the right with 2100mAh ?

EDIT2

bought :) its the correct one. Lets hope this one arrives soon :)
[HTC One X] geogaddi47:
Any news on the whether the HTC One battery will fit?

Also before I order a battery I'd like to find out where and how much it will cost to have it professionally fitted. I live in the Midlands, UK... does anyone know where the nearest service centre is and the approx price for replacing the battery? Cheers!
[HTC One X] shaw23:
I've been using the one x+ battery for about 6 or 7 weeks now and its got better after a few weeks of charges. I'm now easily getting 4 - 5 hrs screen on over 24hrs with WiFi or 3g on. Screen at 35% using viper and xm kernel. This is gaming facebook Twitter etc browsing net and sms. A few calls also. Very happy. I have not uv as I am not really sure about what I'm doing or I could prob get more. I averaged 2.5 hrs before.

I have added 2 photos one showing light use and one with heavier use
[HTC One X] pradeepvizz:
Guys, does someone find a logic in replacing a 1800 mAh battery with a 2100 mAh battery and getting an extra 50% life in the battery. I am just trying to understand why this happens.

To me i think it was because the 1800 mAh battery's on the HOX were faulty and hence it did not perform well.

I come to this conclusion because of 2 reasons.

1. My experience with service center - My battery was changed 2 times and the first time i really felt the improvement but the second time they changed it without a reason and the second battery was bad!

2. Other users - there are many quite satisfied users with 1800 mAh battery and who are very happy with the stock/custom roms. For most of us trying the 2100 mAh battery, the case clearly is that we did not achieve any good battery life with any stock/custom ROMS/kernels.

What do you have to say about this?
[HTC One X] shaw23:
IMO the x+ battery runs alot cooler and this plus the increase in size of the battery plus custom kernel and ROM all contribute to the impact of the usage times. Just my opinion. I do think its strange how some people managed 3 - 4 hours all stock on standard but from what ive read / heard they are in the minority as most hox users reported less than 3 hrs screen on with normal use. Either way this battery an exceptional Kernel (xm) and a superb ROM (viper) allow the usage that i posted WITHOUT having to sacrifice the functionality of my handset by turning off all the features!! :good:
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
I tested it with that app and it tells me my battery is 1570mAH. Is this normal?
[HTC One X] Luke Simpson:
Genuine HTC 35H00197-00M Battery - One X+ ALL BEEN SHIPPED on the 5TH

Your welcome, If anyone need the copper to cover the battery you can use the below link and it will take you to all the HTC parts we have:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/2-Buy-A/_i.html?_nkw=htc+one+x+&submit=Search&_sid=228863027

Regards

Luke
[HTC One X] mariockr:
This app tells mi that my battery have 720mah....
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
For those who changed the battery, how did you re-calibrate the battery?
[HTC One X] adi_ilie:
As in stock rom..I don't have so much options so, beside charging it till 100% and recharging it again when it reaches 20% for 2-3 times,..i din't did something else.

My battery showed exactly 2163mAh after the test. The test took a while. I started it when battery was 65% and it ended, like a hour and something after, when it was around 35-40%, if I remeber corectly. In the first part of the test (firsr 1/3), the app showed the battery as having around 750 mAh, after that it raised to ~3500mAH, just to decrease slowly at the end of the test and reach 2163mAh.

As I read, it seems that you have to start the test when you have ~65% battery and, sometimes, It's possible that the test will end prematurely and show erroneous readings. Could be one of this causes.
[HTC One X] OzanSRC:
I ordered One XC battery (the 2000 mAh one) but i didn't tried it yet. Who use that one and is it ok?
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

If you read the previous pages you will find what are u looking for. Someone who bought the one xc battery sad that there's not a really noticeable improvement.
[HTC One X] pradeepvizz:
Which copper cover do you think we should use ? the one for the HTC one X or the One X + ?
[HTC One X] omondisingh:
I'd buy a One X+ copper Foil.
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

No.. They are different.. Take the one x copperfoil
[HTC One X] ThatNerdGuy:
Can someone please do a 'how to' video showing how to switch out the battery for the technologically inept? (me being the perfect example of one). I'd be really grateful!
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Man, i watched some videos on how to disassemble the hox. I only fixed wi fi hardware fault on hox, but i m good in these works. If u are not good with hands u will risk to damage ur phone. I can do the video but will be the first time I do a similar work. So I can't promise u that I will post the video or if the video is not that good.
[HTC One X] ThatNerdGuy:
I'm pretty sure I'll be able to do it with instructions. I've replaced an iPhone 4 screen before without a hitch, but I used a video guiding me through. I'd really appreciate if anyone could do a step by step tutorial. I'm pretty sure it will be useful for many!
[HTC One X] shaw23:
Check you tube, there are some on there. :good:;)
[HTC One X] OzanSRC:
But my original battery sucks too much i think i can feel some improvement. I can barely see 3 hours screen time. If i can get 4.30 or 5 hours thats enough for me..
[HTC One X] danlat1415:
I changed my battery yesterday.

I've already see big improvements.

The it gives off less heat because it not under as much stress/drain.

This has had a knock on effect on my benchmark score. I previously got about 6800 on quadrant. I now get 7404!!

Phone is rooted and running ARHD 19.2 no other mods or kernals.

Unpluged the phone charger about 7.30am and at 4.45pm I've still got 73% battery left.

Amazing!
[HTC One X] mromantan:
Got nova tester and it gave me 2530mah on the onex+ battery in my hox? Surely this is a mistake.

Anyway 1st charge on CM10.1 beta 10, wifi sync and web browsing, I got 86% left and 1 hr.10 mins screen on. Good enough for me !
[HTC One X] achu.ckr:
[YOUTUBE]mAr4WWbn9Hc[/YOUTUBE]

i made a tutorial for this :) lemme know what i could improve! enjoy...
[HTC One X] Mikyno:
R: One X+ battery is compatible with One X [Update 5] + VIDEO

Great man! Thank u very much :) maybe the part of connecting and reconnecting cables is too short.. But u did a very good job man, really appreciate it :)
[HTC One X] wineds:
Excellent job! Maybe the disconnection of the two connectors could be clearer though? Also, is it necessary to replace the black tape from the old battery?
[HTC One X] mromantan:
This is with cm 10.1, xm 106 snartmax @1200, onex+ battery
[HTC One X] danlat1415:
Here is my Quadrant scores after changing battery