yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I once got a text while playing football. I took out my phone to read it, and suddenly the ball hit my hands, directly on the phone. It fell to the ground. I was certain it was broken, but surprisingly, there wasn't even a single scratch :p Someone else I know intentionally dropped his from a 2 storey height. The device is still perect, but the home button backlight is broken. Of course, no other device released recently can even come close to the endurance of the DS, so a screenguard and cover are necessary on a phone now.
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Talking about build quality, on my last trip to high street I've checked Lumia 920 and all I have to say, nothing is coming even close. Andy on it and I would jump the ship in an eye blink. Feels amazing in hand, the weight is just right and assembly quality and design are just stunning.

I don't know... I know myself and I'm pretty sure that I'll drop my phone one day. Maybe n4 is not for me..? Gotta play with note 2 a bit more... ;)
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Agree with the first, disagree with the second.

Cases really suck the beauty away from a phone... I've always hated them, and will continue to denounce their use.

But screen protectors are another matter altogether. There are various types, and depending on quality, your user experience may vary. Trust me when I say this, gorilla glass 1/2 is not scratch proof. It may well withstand bending and assault with keys or a knife, but coarse dust particles are enough to ruin the screen.

I have been using screen protectors since I bought the ds, and now on the SIII... if applied properly, you can't even tell if someone's using one, but you need to get the right one... and avoid the ones with Matt finish.

So bumpers etc: No

Screen protector: Yes.

But that's just me. Everyone has their own ideas about this stuff, and two contrasting ones may simultaneously be correct in their own paradigms.:)

Nice to see you guys around once again... especially the ever elusive lowveld and the sudden appearance of Bronx! :p

Tapatalked from my SIII
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Nice to see you around mate! And this is the right place for it!

And I'm not elusive, I just live at the end of a rainbow...

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
... and I've never left. Just been busy... ;)

[EDIT]

kudos to Ben for keeping d.s community alive. :thumbup:

It feels like some elite club now... :D
[HTC Desire S] endymioned:
Hi all,

I've not posted much in this forum, but as a DS user I've benefited greatly from the developers and the users on here and wanted to say my thanks.

I moved on to the Sensation a while ago and kept the DS as a second device, but it went to a new owner today :( It was my first smartphone and my introduction to all things android, and as much as I would have liked to have kept it, I needed the money for the n4.

A word of advice to anyone considering going straight from a DS to the n4 - the sensation took me some getting used to, so you may want to go and have a hands-on with the n4 before making your decision, as it's quite a difference in size.

I'm planning on waiting a couple of months before purchasing mine, partly to see the user reviews come out and partly to have a good choice of roms to start playing with from Day 1. It's great to see that so many DS users will be moving to the n4, I'm especially excited to see lowveld's next piece of magic :D This community has been a great one to be part of, and I really appreciate all the help and information I've received here.

Thank you!!
[HTC Desire S] Nexx:
Orders are apparently due to go live tomorrow morning at 8am UK time.

I'll be up and waiting!
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Nexus 4 Bumper Cases Show Up On The Play Store For $19.99, Will Be 'Coming Soon' http://t.co/XWLZpdjk

Here you go people. Looks stylish

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Great! N4 (16Gb) order owner!

Was logged on and ready by 8am this morning, after reading on XDA that they'd sold out in Australia within hours I figured that I better get it done early (asap).

8:00 Nexus 4 (16Gb) showing COMING SOON

8:05 Nexus 4(16Gb) showing COMING SOON

8:10 Nexus 4(16Gb) showing COMING SOON

8:15 Nexus 4(16Gb) showing COMING SOON

8:16 Finally IN STOCK

Started attempts at Sale(s), I wanted 2 16Gb devices and 1 bumper case.

Each screen and the responses to each button press was frightening slow (for Google)

8:19 Started buying again

8:20 Items in Your Cart - Your cart is currently empty.

8:21 Oops, we had a problem with your request. Please try again.

8:21 Only Nexus 4(8Gb) in STOCK (16Gb) showing COMING SOON

8:22 Only Nexus 4(8Gb) in STOCK (16Gb) showing COMING SOON

<Started to pull my own hair out at this point>

<thought I'd continue in case they were releases batches of Stock?>

8:23 Started buying again

8:24	Cart Updated: The following items have been removed from your cart because they are currently unavailable.

2 x Nexus 4 (16GB)

Nexus 4 Bumper (Black)

Your cart is currently empty.

8:25 Started buying again

8:26 Cart Updated: The following items have been removed from your cart because they are currently unavailable.

8:27 Oops, we had a problem with your request. Please try again.

8:28	Cart Updated: The following items have been removed from your cart because they are currently unavailable.

8:30 Oops, we had a problem with your request. Please try again.

After continual errors, I continually tried again only to encounter similar issues

8:31am Succeeded :) Now that wasn't easy!! :)

8:32 Only Nexus 4(8Gb) in STOCK (16Gb) showing COMING SOON

8:32 Received promised email that Nexus 10 was there to buy

8:42 Received promised email that Nexus 4 was there to buy (even though now out of STOCK)

How did the rest of you get on? as painful an experience as mine? and by the sounds of the boards the remainder of the UK's!?
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Great, you'll be one of the first to get one :D Congratulations. Now I hope google releases the source soon, we want 4.2 too :p
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
No credit card. Have to wait a bit longer :(

If anyone ordered two and wants to sell one, I'm your man! :p
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
there are lots on ebay....Although the B@stards, have added £50+ to the price
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
well, its not lots, there are only a few. and price is around $500!!!!:crying:
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
they must be making more, sold old in minutes across the globe by the sound of it....they must have made about a thousand! :p:confused:

hopefully more will be appear soon, at least you'll get the benefit of user reviews and feedback
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Tried to make a purchase but as I was in a meeting until 1pm I had no chance of laying my hands on one roll on the next batch :thumbup:
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Work can sometimes be such an blasted inconvenience.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
So nexx, lowveld and Ben have one each. Nice. Expecting some great reviews :) :beer:

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Lucky you, congrats on the purchase.

By the way, after a lot of mental fireworks, I've decided to get the missus a nexus 4 (16 gb) for her birthday in Feb. (Last year she got a ds the same day) most probably it'll be officially available in India by then, or I'll have to get one from abroad... I really hope they announce a 32 gb model by then.

So I'll see how it goes... especially your reviews... that'll decide if Iget one or not. And given that the wife likes my SIII so much, I might even be able to swap devices with her and join the party with you guys over at the nexus forums...

Fingers crossed.

Doc out.

Sent from my toenail
[HTC Desire S] Nexx:
:D

Expected delivery is showing at the 15th, hopefully that doesn't slip.

As for my ordering experience:

8:00am - Still showing as "Coming Soon"

8:10am - Showing as "In Stock"

8:10am to 8:19am - Repeated ordering failures and basket emptying itself

8:19am - Finally checked out with 1x 16GB Nexus 4

8:20am - Order showing in Google wallet + play store history

8:51am - Received order confirmation e-mail

Still haven't received the notice e-mail for the orders going live :P Kinda tired, but very happy to have got a device secured. I do agree Google could have handled it better, especially limiting to 1-2 devices per customer, the number of Nexus 4's on ebay with huge mark-ups is sickening.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Yes. It. Is.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Well, as you may have figured out, Ben was a great chap and bought one for me! So, eagerly waiting for the beast. :)

Although with the double posting, I'm looking into another week of waiting more than you lucky bastards. Ah well, I'm a lucky bastard too. :D

And a very big thanks to Ben!!!

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Totally agree a limit of two devices per customer should have been the limit not ten

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Damn... I wasn't lucky enough. No n4 lovin' for me... :D

This whole situation with uk stock is crazy.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Bugger, hopefully you'll be get some in the next tranche. I totally agree with you, seems like google/LG appeared to massively under estimate the stock leveel that would be needed globally! No sounds when the next batch will be available as yet. O2 have obviously got some in the UK, I wonder what percentage of produced devices will go through the leaches that are the mobile re-sellers!
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
No AOSP support for Nexus 4 from the beginning? This is crazy. Wonder if Qualcomm isn't open sourcing the drivers and that's causing issues for real AOSP.

Details here.

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Wow, that's outrageous. Here's what JBQ has to say -

"I can't comment on the future of Nexus 4 in AOSP, sorry. "

What's the point of a Nexus device with no AOSP support?
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
From PaulOBrien on twitter

" Hmmm, you can get a 64GB Padfone 2 + Station (tablet dock) for *exactly* the same price as a 16GB N4 + a 32GB N10. Interesting comparison…"

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Hmmmmm, slightly alarming, bit still very early days, JB update only just gone out, waiting before drawing any conclusions, hoping for a Google confirmation statement on the subject

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Check this thread - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1989841

The general consensus is that support will be added later, Qualcomm is the reason for the delay, and anyone who thinks that a nexus device won't get AOSP support is stupid :p
[HTC Desire S] pughie:
Have to agree aosp will be here just a matter of when...on a side note just flashed rooted stock 4.2 on my n7 its really nice, although not sure about the new lock screen clock and the fact you have to keep hitting version number to get into developer options :confused:
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
You should have to hit it 700 times just to prevent people from taping "force gpu rendering" :)

On the AOSP thing: alarming for sure, but I'm holding my judgement. Keeping a Nexus out would be too much of a a screwup even for Google.

Cheers

Sent from an undisclosed dimension
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Certainly worth a go, if you're still interested?

Looks like individual cancelled orders are occasionally releasing individual stock items which can then be snapped up - if you're lucky and fast enough..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1990139 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1990139

You're more than welcome, although you shouldn't thank me until it's in Portugal in your sweaty hands. ;)

And it's the least I could do after you've given (us) me near flawless ROMs to use for the last several months. it's nice to be able to do something in return.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Damn true... Thanks to Lowveld my desire S is still in use. :thumbup:

Regarding hunting for red oct... err.... nexus 4, I've tried to get mine several times, however I think that UK stock is gone for good... :(

I really want it, as I'm android man now, but waiting for weeks my help me to cool down... and I'll start looking for alternatives again.

Anyway... Lovely weather for mid november, isn't it? Hopefully tomorrow is going to be the same (or even better) so I can get my sonny to play outside. (we both have a day off ;) )
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I wish I did, I'm a polling clerk tomorrow, which is a long shift 06:30 to 22:00 at the local school, for the bleeding uk police commissioner elections, I work for the local council (in the IT department) but we always assist in staffing polling stations for the elections.

Although not complaining too much as I've Friday off to recover, and hopefully watch the N4 fall through the letter box. (sorry @Bronx)

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
lmao... :D no worries mate. ;)
[HTC Desire S] sadsac:
Yep the Aussie stock went on sale at some random time during lunch and i missed out.

Farcial launch by google, I'll be waiting for second batch whenever that is
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
I went to local o2 store to play with nexus 4 and gotta say, I'm not very impressed... Imho it's a bit too light in hand plus all those reviewers praising the build quality are talking a bit of bs. Volume rocker seemed to be quite flimsy and overall experience while holding it was not even near to quality of htc one x(+) not to mention lumia 920 (why no android nokia? Why?!). So... I guess it's a perfect phone for it's price, however definitely not the best one. I will probably still get one, but if waiting time for next batch gonna be too long, then I'll get something else without regret.

Howgh. ;)
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I'll obviously reserve judgment until I've held one.

I actually held the sgs3 for the first time yesterday without it being attached to a security tag in a shop, wow that was light! Surprisingly not too large either although as expected too plastic.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Holding the sgs3 was what actually convinced me that I could use phones with that screen size, although It will take some getting used to. Up to then, I thought the One S size was my absolute limit.

And I sure hope the N4 won't feel that plastic. For that alone, the risk of the glass back is worth it...

Sent from an undisclosed dimension
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Well that's the thing. It's minimal weight makes You feel that it's made of plastic. (or maybe it's just me... :rolleyes:)

Anyway, I've learned from my last few visits to high street retailers, that my sweet spot is 4.3 inches. If sgs2 wasn't a bit old, I would get it even today. Looks great and size is perfect.
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
It's not all about the weight, it's how it feels on your hand. And it's completely subjective, I'll only know when I hold one. As an example, the One S is ridiculously light and thin, but it definitely does not feel plastic. The SGS3 on the other hand, felt like a Happy Meal toy.

Again, subjective, no offense to owners, it's a fantastic piece of hardware.

Sent from an undisclosed dimension
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Well bigger seems to be the black, with the dna/Droid/butterfly/dlx or whatever it's called!

Only a matter of time until they squeeze decent spec into the smaller frame.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Burrrrrp.... I'm loving it! :D

Sent from my toenail
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Lol, personally, I find the SGS3 way better than any other Samsung device in terms of build quality, though not on par with HTC devices. The One S is probably the best built device of 2012, though the device sucks since HTC replaced the S4 chip with an S3. Still, I'm sure that the Nexus 4 will be as good (if not better) than most devices, as per the glowing reviews.

Also, I preferred 4.3 inches too, but now that I've gotten used to the Nexus 7, 4.7 feels fine too :D On the other hand, the Note II is style ginormous and practically unusable. Plus, it looks ridiculous when someone is talking on the phone with a phablet on their ear :p
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I love the form factor of the S2. Its so thin and much lighter than the DS, so it fit well in my pocket.

The 4.3" screen is great, but in some situations it feels too large to use in public places, like texting etc.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Whatever the case, I haven't encountered a single issue with the build quality of the SIII in the last 5 months that I've owned it...that's like almost half the life of the device. I've dropped it from hip height twice(booze) and once from the bed(sleep)... still can't look at it and tell if it ever fell.

I had more issues with the desire s in terms of battery door creaking and power button going soft and iffy within a few months. Unibody (aluminum and all) got scratched exposing the metal underneath at the slightest touch of any abrasive surface. The One S? With the apparent space age micro arc oxidation coating peeling off the body all over the world...? Pffff...please, build quality my rhetorical. The one x would drop Wi-Fi all over the place due to a loose antenna. Screen flex issues. Eccentric screen placement on brand new factory released devices... I've searched high and low for a decent HTC phone before I gave up the quest and went for a phone without sense. And I found what I was looking for with Samsung... none of the issues, and all the software and hardware goodies I could ask for. And updates? Jellybean 4.1.1 has been officially out for quite some time now, Sammy built 4.1.2 update for the SIII just leaked out today. That's just one step short of nexus level support. What other phone launched 6 months ago has this kind of track record? I don't even like jellybean so much, I'm still on ics... I've found a lot of my apps behaving better with ics, and better battery drain. What matters more to me that the choice is available and that I have a solid phone that can take a reasonable beating (no I don't want something I can tie behind my car and drag cross country) So I don't know what build quality mumbo jumbo everybody keeps talking about...

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[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Glad to see you fully committed and rightly behind your device as always correctly loyal.

I came very close to getting an i9305 myself so understand you completely.

So much choice, so many preferences, so many different personal priorities and tastes, so glad there's so many devices out there.....

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] Nexx:
Just wanted to chip in here since my N4 arrived this morning =)

I always found the shape and feel of the GS3 a little "wrong" for me, I couldn't quite explain it but I ended up getting a wraparound rear cover to correct it.

The Nexus 4 however is perfect. It feels slightly heavier than the GS3 (which feels plastic-like and way too light for a 4.8" phone), the shape is better and the hardware buttons feel more durable. Overall it's almost like it's a more solid phone, but as already mentioned, this is all subjective to the person using it.

Very happy with the Nexus 4 though, just need to make sure it's 100% fine then offload my GS3 =)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Thanks for that! I'm just waiting for exams to be over and hopefully I'll pick one up. Does yours have any of the issues like the rattling or the yellow spot?
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Good...the more positive reviews that the n4 gets, the more I'm inclined to get one for the wife *cough* *cough* .

By the way, I've been thinking of jumping onto the tablet bandwagon. From what I gather so far, nothing compares to the iPad in terms of the tablet experience, app environment and overall drool factor.... and this is coming from some hardcore android fanatics, who own android phones but Apple tablets...

Now I usually reflexively hate anything Apple, so I'm not too inclined to get an iPad as long as android can dish out a worthy competitor. If not, then I'm willing to drink the poisoned ale and go for ios... can't wait forever for Android to catch up.

Then there's the issue of screen size... 10 inch or 7 inch?

Anybody willing to throw me a few pointers here?

Sent from my toenail
[HTC Desire S] Nexx:
Haven't noticed any issues, checked for both the rattle and yellow spots right away and can't find either. Seems like a solid device =)

I've got a 10.1" Motorola Xoom and I love it. I use it for stuff which a phone screen is a little too small for, such as blogging, web-browsing and the likes. I've never been a fan of Apple products or iOS though so I can't give a neutral opinion on that =P
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Annoyingly I've been out all day, I reckon that there will be a DHL calling card at home ..

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Clearly spoke too bleeding soon, not a happy bunny and that is being very polite.......

Just received the following email, add by the look of twitter loads of people did......

Thank you for your recent purchase on Google Play. Due to overwhelming demand, your Nexus 4 is on backorder and is expected to ship within three weeks. We’ll send you a notification when your order has shipped and will credit the shipping charges.

If you would prefer to cancel your order, please reply to this email and our team will assist you.

We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you again for your order.

Thanks, The Google Play Team

© 2012 Google Inc. 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043

You've received this mandatory service announcement email to provide you with important information related to your purchase from Google Play.

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
And then she said: "I'm not sure I'm ready for this..."

Yep, that kind of disappointment...

:(
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Oh man, that's not good... But don't be too angry. Now you still got the N4 pre-ordered, most people didn't even had the luck to be able to order one..
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
I think lowveld hit the nail on the head with disappointed, I'm not angry although probably should be...

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Well... I call this major bull****. This release is a f... joke. Seriously, company like google was well aware of the hype and number of people interested. You know... I'm not holding my breath for nexus 4 anymore. Seriously considering getting asus padfone 2 unless I shall find anything even better.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
What about the HTC dlx? Is that coming to UK? If so when and what price?

Sywepd form my DsereiS
[HTC Desire S] bronx:
Pricing still unknown, but it's apparently coming soon as leaks are popping up. ... not for me though. Too big. :mad:
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Me too :)

I would recommend to at least try the latest leak, it seems a step ahead to the pervious leaks, small glitches like launcher redraw and initial widget tab lag, but allover pretty fluid and the multi window feature is pretty handy in some cases, the only shame is that there aren't more apps which can be used that way.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Will do today... am on the road, traveling and meeting relatives as the festive season draws to a close here, flying back home tonight... ahh, unlimited broadband, here I come. Omega is already out with a custom Rom built on yesterday's 4.1.2 leak. Maybe I'll try that first. Our stock deodexed... What would you suggest? PM me... I think this will get too old topic even for here...:D

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[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Well, the Droid DNA bechmarks came out. Since the device has the same specs as the N4 (but Android 4.1.2), you can expect this kind of performance and results (maybe even better, 4.2 is smoother than 4.1.2 IMO). Needless to say, better than anything ever seen.

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/15/benchmarks-lg-nexus-4-vs-htc-droid-dna/

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/15/benchmarks-samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-htc-droid-dna/
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
This is just a case of benchmarks not optimized for 4.2. Sane thing happened with 4.1.

Tapatalked from Desire S running Andromadus