yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 350Rocket:
I realized the op said uninstall and reboot will remove it so I did that. I still feel no difference. Not saying it doesnt work for some people but I know it does nothing for me on cm7.2 on my nexus one or 4.2.2 on my desire z spare phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Well, I don't understand. The entropy would normally be kept between write_wakeup_threshold x2 and x3. If you don't have anything feeding entropy, and write_wakeup_threshold is that low, I just don't understand how it's getting that high. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Fortun:
Yeah, I remember the SuperCharger thread mentioning that behavior.

By the way, have you tried opening and closing the entropy_avail file as I mentioned? Maybe you can break the supposed limit that way.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
Check with:

sysctl -a | grep random
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Fortun:
I checked both ways.

In other words, the files read_wakeup_threshold and write_wakeup_threshold show 64 and 128 respectively. And the terminal command shows kernel.random.read_wakeup_threshold and kernel.random.write_wakeup_threshold with the same values, ie 64 and 128.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hoholee12:
Me too. I still could get 4096 in available entropy when i have disabled everything all stock.

but it does not stay at the max level longer than 15 seconds. Which it happens when launching apps.

After that, entropy goes back to 1.

Android may not be using all that entropy everytime i think..

Like a BAUSS.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] axa993:
Test

I've heard of Seeder recently and gave it a shot on my OT-995 with H1N1 ICS ROM. It looks like it speeds up things just a little bit (it doesn't matter if it's set to light, moderate or aggressive, and it could easily be that I'm trippy about system being more responsive). But one thing that I noticed for sure is that Seeder has a pretty large impact on scrolling, that said, scrolling becomes choppier the moment i run the service.

This was just a lame feedback as I am pretty much an unexperienced user.

Cheers and good luck with this app!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Fortun:
I could keep it over a minute on 4096 during testing. Probably more, but no point since it was just a test.

By the way, I never saw it sink to 1.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
What is your device, kernel, and ROM version?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Fortun:
Xperia X8, stock kernel, CyanogenMod-7.2.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kchannel9:
Why would one want to turn it off? :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bafforosso:
Just discover Seeder two weeks ago because it was preinstalled in my latest ROM.

And it's AWESOME!!!! Instantly became a must have for me, my SGS3 is so much snappier, plus I use to have to reboot once every 2 day because it started stuttering and even some apps wouldn't start anymore. Now no reboot since almost 2 weeks and my phone's quicker than it has ever been.

So one BIG UP to the developper, THANK YOU!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Shubham87:
Awesome!

I've been using it since 2 days & its works like a charm.. Everyone should try it.. But BEWARE you might fall in love with it! :D

Thanks lambgx02!:good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bluedragon38:
Sorry but .. What i must install ? i try it in the past (the version 1) but i change my rom... I re read the first page but ... i understand nothing atm xD

I just need to installe the .apk v2.0 and launch it ? (that why you create an apk ? or i must install other things ?)

and what is "rngd_suspend-on-sleep_v3.zip" ? its a flashable zip to stop seeder when phone sleeping ? (i don't find any explanation on the FP !)

thanks in advance :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] agayabag:
yeah, just install the .apk, then launch it as normal app. that's it. the rest of the items, you can just leave it. the one that you need is only the .apk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] VeryCoolAlan:
I have a GS3 (US Version)(2GB Ram)

On Stock JB

Would it be bad if I put the entropy level to aggressive?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jelle2503:
so Seeder now also is the magic cure for reboots?

this thread gets better each day

next thing you know it will cure hiv

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9000 met Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] leonardoroza:
I have a S3 too and my ROM also came with it but since I've changed kernel I don't miss Seeder anymore. Still testing anyway...

Could you please turn it off for a few days and see if you miss Seeder? Or at least your phone starts to stutter again?

Thank you.

Sent from a GT-I9300 on ARHD 22.4
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] manaskb:
Installed Seeder-2.0.0.apk on two devices and this app is just amazing. One device running ICS 4.0.3 and another with JB 4.2.1, super results on both and lag has just disappeared.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FuKaKa:
noob question but my device seem not change anything, do I have to use it as a system app?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sonwon:
Are you rooted; this only works with rooted phones.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] VeryCoolAlan:
What level is recommended?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pa33vel:
How to use suspend-on-sleep and his patch?! :rolleyes:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AchillesAOT:
I have a not-so-smart question. I installed Seeder 2.0 and turned it on. I would like to know, can I uninstall the application now? Since it's only the UI service, if I uninstall it, will my phone go back to the way it was?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] InV15iblefrog:
If i understood you correctly, the FAQs provided in the OP answer your question:

Hope it's what you meant. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AchillesAOT:
The thing is, I still want the service. I just don't want the UI application. :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zodiaxe66:
When I was browsing play store I found another seeder app,called "seeder pro" very similar to one of your first releases of seeder.I just wondered,competition is good but same name????:confused:

Have a nice day
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Who is the dev?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AchillesAOT:
This is known. The "developer" is trying to scam the OP, and is attempting to make money off of his APK. Report the application if you have time so Google will take it down. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Sure is a shame these low-life, no good, dense imbeciles exist.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AchillesAOT:
What can we do? Stupidity is everywhere nowadays. We just have to stick together, and push through it. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Exactly! The proof is in the OP. :good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Lol...already mentioned...that app symlinks /dev/random to /dev/urandom...not seeding it with rngd...the app's size is small anyway...if it included the OP's work, it would at least be 1 MB++ as the rngd binary is already 900KB++...why people just like to jump in straight away and give false alrams instead of reading first...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AchillesAOT:
Can someone answer this please? :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Yes
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ra6:
Yes you can but the entropy value will drop mean seeder doesnt work anymore..:)

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] coolfire:
I concur...

Reported in Play already. Cheap charlie... :mad:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AchillesAOT:
Alright. Thanks man. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
This......
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] IRIE4IPIER:
It doesn't use the op's work YET! Fact of the matter is, is he is trying to step on toes by naming his app "Seeder Pro" his app is certainly not 'Pro'
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
That I agree...the name is certainly misleading...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
Reported the app as a ripoff :good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] blively2:
Ditto. Take the dbag down! :thumbdown:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shinesthru:
Reported as well.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eluspo:
hi guys! how can we removed the zip file of seeder? can we just delete the file in etc/seeder_script/seeder?

or just run teminal mu and type: su , seeder and select the options 1-4?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lt.Win:
Same here.

Sent from my Single Core Wildfire S. :|
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
Reported Seeder Pro to play store. Thank you for the help getting this reported, as i didn't know how to. You know who you are, thanks :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Neo.net:
I have a problem with version 2.0.0.

When I try to activate Seeder, the application tells me it can not start RNG service.

While I am Root and privileges were given.

There is something else to do?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] WonderRaise:
Hello

Great work! thank's!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] coolfire:
I find that setting it to Moderate doesn't affect battery life at all... Great work!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] soban_mub:
:confused:hello guys. this gonna be my first.

and Before using the app . . plz I wanna know whether it can harm my phone or its just safe. im using Samsung s duos gt7562.

thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eushaun99:
Its safe to use on any phone, just download the app and turn it on.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] soban_mub:
a silly question . does ON mean its On of need to press it to make it ON????
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eushaun99:
Press the button to turn it on...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] blively2:
On means its on....and no means no. ;)

EDIT: NO HE CAN'T :thumbdown:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jr_718:
View attachment 1828040

EDIT:

YES WE CAN
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhenx:
dear all...

i still confuse.. in page 1 there are ApK seeder v.2.0.0, and other page there are new update seeder v7 on zip file.

just confirm...is i need to install both of file APK seeder v2 and then seeder v7 .zip? or i just choose one of them?or just choose the latest v7? and apply via CWM.plz advise
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kir3:
Only apk. It's the EASIEST method
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ABD EL HAMEED:
Hi I can't activate it on my phone even though I have root what should I do:confused:

Thanks in advance:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhenx:
so apk seeder v2 is same with seeder v7.zip but only different method?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kir3:
I think yes.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ABD EL HAMEED:
Please anyone answer my question it tells that at maybe not be working because of root privileges even though I granted access to it any body tell me what to do:confused:

Thanks in advance:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ABD EL HAMEED:
Anyone?:banghead:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] poo706:
You're giving no detail and spamming the thread with your problems. I suspect no one is going to help you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ABD EL HAMEED:
It keeps saying that RNGD startup failed now what should I do

Thanks in advance:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] temporarium:
Have you tried rebooting your device? Also try uninstalling and reinstalling...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ABD EL HAMEED:
I did try rebooting gonna uninstall and reinstall

Thanks in advance:)

OK never mind it's because of cross beader but when I installed a ROM which doesn't have cross bear with it the seeder worked fine, anyway thanks for help
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhenx:
Hello All

need advise, if i flash new kernel, how about existing seeder ? is need to flash again? (i'm using seeder v7.zip before)

Best Regards

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] derride8:
Yes, reflash.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tasha5213:
Non Rooted Phones

Is there anything like this for non-rooted phones? I thought about rooting, but I'm scared too. I was looking forward to trying this app out for my lag issues.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saiz136:
You have nothing to be scared in rooting. Actually it frees your phone like Jailbreak in Ios, of course you have to use it wisely. :D

Sent from Prada 3.0 CM10.1 JB4.2.2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tasha5213:
I heard this. But I also heard you can brick your phone. I dont wanna deal with that lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cdzo72:
You'll ONLY brick your phone if you DON'T do your due diligence and educate yourself before beginning to modify... nowadays there is almost ZERO threat of a brick if you do the reading and acquire the proper tools and knowledge
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tasha5213:
True lol I'm usually pretty good at doing stuff like that even if I don't feel comfortable doing it. I've done it. Is there an article online "Rooting for dummies" maybe? LOL :p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
No.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tasha5213:
good to know. Thanks anyways.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step-han:
No. U need root to use this app/service.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kchannel9:
I believe in you, you have the courage to take control of your device :) Believe in yourself and read, once you've learned the basics you could root a stock Android phone in like 15 minutes, it's really really easy. Read. Read. Download. Check MD5s. Read. Flash. Reorganize...Upgrade! :thumbup:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sixline:
I am continuously getting "RNGD Startup Failed." I have rebooted my device. Also, I have uninstalled and reinstalled app by clearing all caches and clearing data of SuperUser app without luck. I am using LG Optimus LTE LU6200 with cm10.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ABD EL HAMEED:
Do you use cross beeder with it if so then uninstall it:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
Currently trying on S5830M, i'll come out with results as soon as possible :)

EDIT: Yup, under a heavy load I did notice a difference in response times in my phone :D amazing work!!

Tested on:

Galaxy Ace S5830M (Family: i/M/C)

ROM: Stock

Kernel: Stock

To-Do

Test it on a custom ROM and with custom kernel, perhaps one with init.d like hell_lock's :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sixline:
I never used cross beeder. And I have done clean flash of my rom and again tried to run seeder but still the same error :mad:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 4us:
Powerfull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Amazing stuff! Im using ICS 4.04 rooted! ST27i .. No Lag at all, feel like new.. cant believe this.. and wonder how long it will be like this
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] unbenannt:
sorry for OT but are you seriously listing your friends devices? :eek:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sixline:
Yep:) because they depend on me for os problems...I have used cross breeder which does the same as seeder. Thanks for your support. Its probably a problem in my ROM.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] RyomaEchizen:
To uninstall Seeder is just only uninstall the App?

Enviado desde mi ST25a usando Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] adeelraj:
Yes uninstall it

Then reboot

So simple
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kir3:
Or turn off the Seeder from the app and uninstall it

Sent from Sony Xperia Live with Walkman
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DjBastard:
In Padfone 2 seems to work well ....

regards
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] InV15iblefrog:
Works well on the note ii, and very useful on the HD2. But i don't think it has much of an effect on the Htc Desire z, but I'm not sure why.

Anyone got suggestions why this might be?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 350Rocket:
I've tried several times on my nexus one on cm7.2 and 4.2.2 cm10 with no change all. Also tried on HTC desire z with gB, ics and jb no effect either. I was really hoping for something cause I paid for this on playstore. I don't know if its in people's heads or difference in my usage and phone? I still keep rechecking this thread for more concrete information.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dsbnz:
Paid? As far as I'm aware its a free app on playstore. There was mention in earlier posts of a copy of seeder being sold on play, I think.

Check the developer of your copy on play. If its not LCIS, its not legit. If in doubt, download the apk in first post :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Seeder isn't free on the Play Store, it's only provided for free for XDA. It's mentioned in the OP.

Other than that, just because it's not this Seeder doesn't mean it's not legit. There are similar apps that take a different approach (and therefore can't be called illegal clones like some people have been calling them, unless you consider all, say, backup apps to be illegal clones).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] derride8:
Correct
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] S♥NE:
Good thing

Although i still find mybattery draining very fast.... But it sure does make my phone not so laggy.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kchannel9:
Are you using cpu sleeper, greenify, and/or ds battery saver? If not check them out. Also 4100mAh Qcell battery on Amazon fixes that.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dj_blueshift:
Thank you a thousand times! I'm running the latest CM7 nightly on my G2 and over the past few months, it had just been lagging so bad, almost to the point of uselessness. This has restored near-perfect responsiveness. THANK YOU!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maanski3:
I think I remembered when I tried this back then when I saw it on PocketNow, it used to be free and it was v1.1 back then. But now I rechecked the Play store to make sure it's the same and it actually is a paid app now in a latest version, it's the LCIS one. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lcis.seeder&hl=en

Edit: Oh wait. I think I mistook it. I'm not sure if the Entropy Seeder Generator is the same as the seeder one of LCIS. :P Disregard if I was mistaken..haha my bad :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Quoting myself.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ~Unify~:
What's the main function of Seeder ?:confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Have you read the OP?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lo2ay:
It's main function is pumping Nitrous Oxide into your phone's processor to speed it up dramatically.

But it has some disadvantages as it makes your device to keep laughing like it's high and NO2 finishes quickly :silly: :cool: :rolleyes:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] leonardoroza:
Wow! maybe that's why my phone is changing colours :rolleyes:

Sent from a GT-I9300 on ARHD 23.3
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
It makes your phone spit out seeds, then the seeds grow into trees, which give the developers at Google more oxygen to breathe, improving their overall brain function and allowing them to push out better updates.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeppelinrox:
Wow... even tho you hadn't posted in my thread, I may add you to my ignore list as a pre-emptive measure LOL
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] The-Droidster:
WORKS! WORKS! WORKS!:D:D

Apps load so fast...all android users must try this!:good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nitephlight:
oh wow.

chrome is now cleared for usage, orientation changes and select text FLY now. (not to mention the browser actually opens instantaneously)

you ser are the man.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] atomic339:
How to check that app is working?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ricfil:
I would glady like for this script to have an impact on my Milestone. The thing is, as others have said I do not see real diferences on performance, both using the script and not using it. I´ve confirmed that on terminal the numbers stay between 2000 and 3000 for most of the time(when script is off they decrease to lower numbers) but still apps like Quick Office, Adobe Reader, games, etc, still feel they take the same time (sometimes 3-4 seconds or more) to load... :confused:

Would like to see some real life testing from someone with the script off and then on to see what they are talking about (maybe a video?)... that would be nice. And also understand why on there devices the script works and on others it seems not to...

---------- Post added at 06:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:43 PM ----------

Open terminal and type "watch -n 1 cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail"

The value will keep on 2000+ or 3000+

:good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Irseq:
Umm... When I type ' watch -n 1 cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail' this appears...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] atomic339:
Have the same
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ricfil:
Have you confirmed you didn´t mess up the last bit of code(/entropy_avail)? It normaly appears as your printscreen followed by numbers between 2000 and 3000.

Like this:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] olivares.leody:
Sir

Where can I download the program that your using to check the output? Thanks

Sent from my Hyper BlueICS iPocket

Thanks for pressing the button
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ricfil:
Google Play under the name Terminal Emulator (you need root access and init.d support on the rom you´re using). And then type in the command "watch -n 1 cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail".
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pepoluan:
sometimes watch just glitched like that.

better to use entropy_watch

-- Sent from a GT-I8150 running ICS perfectly well. F'U, Sams#!t --
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] olivares.leody:
I have the same output with irseq:eek:

Sent from my Hyper BlueICS iPocket

Thanks for pressing the button

---------- Post added at 10:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:09 AM ----------

Sir Where can I download entropy watch?

Sent from my Hyper BlueICS iPocket

Thanks for pressing the button
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Use this: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390248398092763238

Flash in recovery...it installs an init.d script to launch at boot, rngd and entropy_watch binaries amd also am extended menu by me....after flashing, just go into terminal and type

su

press enter and then

seeder

press enter again...

The apk does not work for every phone, but this init.d method will work as long as your phone supports init.d...;)