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[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Yeah Edge my phone picks up happily also.

My phone seems to jump onto Edge for picture Texting.

Everytime I send a Text with image attached to it, the Edge Bar turns on and shows up and down.

I haven't seen H symbol on mines bc i don't have data on my plan.

Thought i know my area has been completely refarmed bc I was talking to the guys redoing the AT&T towers for T-mobile

now my AT&T friends don't any signal at their own homes no more.

They dont want to let me borrow their AT&T sim because once it detects a smart new smart phone (They are on a elcheapo plan with some old dataplan)

AT&T signs them up for a new Data plan with a new contract. I thought that was illegal ?????? I didn't believe until we tried and it did happen.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
Wow, remind me not to switch to AT&T ever... If they do these kind of tricks, who knows what else they can do...
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Yeah it was shocking.

Run down was He is on AT&T with some older flip phone.

Voice and Text with Picture Text.

He was looking at my older phone Atrix 2 and wanted to see how it would operate with his SIM in it so he can buy it from me.

Remember the phone is Unlocked already OUT of contract and was being used on Tmobile.

Plugged his SIM in played with it. Did not use 3G or Data. Only Wifi and text and Voice for 15 min.

Removed his sim gave me the phone back.

24 hours later he gets a TEXT "I hope you enjoy your new phone and Data Plan" (Translation: YOU LOOKED AT A NEW PHONE, NOW BEND OVER AND CRY B*T**)

He got upgraded from whatever plan he had to 39.99 + 30.00 Mo plan. And his contract got renewed to +2Years

When he called in they said ANY one who has a Smartphone on AT&T HAS TO (MUST) be on a DATA Plan.

IT does not matter if you brought ur own phone, BUT IT IS REQUIRED FOR YOU TO PAY THEM 20-50 Bucks more for data usage.

Even if u dont need it. I never knew they were allowed to do that O.o

I understand if they require you on a data plan if you buy a phone under a 2 year agreement. But not if you bought ur phone unlocked at full price.

I must say i am happy at T-Mobile LOL
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freak4dell:
That's true of any of the big 4 carriers except for T-Mobile. With Sprint and Verizon, you have to activate the phone through them, so they tell you when you're activating. With AT&T, you can swap SIM cards, so people either don't know, or they think they're pulling a fast one on AT&T. AT&T isn't that stupid. The only real way around this is to use a phone that has no ties with AT&T at all, so that it won't be in their IMEI database. When they do a sweep of their network, the IMEI won't be recognized, and they won't know it's a smartphone.

And by no ties to AT&T, I mean absolutely no ties. Even phones that are branded for other carriers, but that AT&T has a variant of, are getting caught. There are also phones like the Nexus One that are getting caught even without ever having been sold as an AT&T variant. It all depends on what they have decided to pursue inserting into their database, and it's a complete luck of the draw thing to find a phone that isn't there.

Personally, I don't agree with that policy, but it's the carrier's choice to do that, so I'm not going to complain about it. If a customer doesn't like it, they can take their business elsewhere. Part of the reason I took my business to T-Mobile is because they don't do that. At least it's not as bad as Sprint, where if one person in your family wants a smartphone and data, you must pay for data for the entire family. That's one of the many reasons I left Sprint. Now, on T-Mobile, I don't have data plans for the lines that don't need them, but those lines still get to use smartphones. It's awesome.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
Well, the carriers have the "right" to do that, it's their choice, and I don't like it, that's one of the reasons I'm on TMobile as well. But, one thing is, say, block data connections from non-authorized phones, another is automatically upgrading, and charging for it, without the user knowing. That's just wrong, and possibly illegal.

Anyway, freak4dell, on a different note, I understand you now got an Australian XT905, right? Do you get 3G on TMobile (is your area refarmed)?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freak4dell:
I haven't gotten it yet, so I can't tell you. According to airportal.de, my area is pretty well refarmed. Once I get my phone and am done with finals this semester, I will test it out and see.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
Well, I have been trying this again using the images from pjcons and loading the boot and system as well as NON-HLOS.bin and fsg.mbn and I am still having very limited success.

It works but not only is it limited to EDGE or GPRS, but the rf performance is horrible and signal is barely use able to nonexistant indoors.

I have also tried a few build.prop edits on the VZW firmware in an attempt to match some of the values in the AU build.prop that differ from VZW.

I still do not consider this a viable hack yet and do not recommend it for anyone for regular use.

I certainly encourage those users who are willing experiment and are comfortable with fastboot to try it out and report back.

There are a huge number of variables at play and isolating them will require many users' input.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
That's a bummer ... I'll probably try myself as well, but I know not to expect too much :(

I tried to use the system partition from pjcons (with safestrap, still haven't had the guts to void my warranty :P), and it works fine, less bloat, etc, but (as expected, sort of) no difference in reception.

Is it possible that the hardware (i.e. antenna) is physically different in these two phones, or do we know for sure they are not?

Am I right thinking that if it picks up 1900Mhz EDGE, it has the hardware to pick up 1900Mhz UMTS/HSPA?

Anyway, as I said before, I was able to get some HSDPA signal with VZW firmware and aussie radio (basically, as before), while driving in a different part of town ... I'll try again if I have time to see if I get a better signal in some spot, and if it works at all.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Well okay,

We now have PJCons FastBoot Dump.

Let's summarize what problems we have and where we at.

So far we can:

Combine Verizon JB or ICS Firmware with the NON-HLOS.bin from AU Which allows us to use GSM Sim.

Downside we still are unsure if 4G LTE works and its Bloated as hell.

Rumors: Some people claim they are getting 3G, Edge seems to be working (On mines Edge seems to be working for PicMessages)

What we can not:

Combine Verizon Values to the AU-FastBoot Dump to get a De-Bloated Firmware for CDMA usage

Flash the AU-FastBoot straight onto the XT907 for De-Bloat and GSM usage.

What we have:

FastBoot Stock Verizon ICS and JB

FastBoot Stock AU Telstra ics (I think thats what PJcons gave me to put on server)

NON-HLOS.Bin (For GSM users on Verizon and the Radio for AU users)

Is this correct ?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjcons:
That's telstra GSM ICS fastboot image from me.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Ahhhh okie, well its time to take it apart =)

Downloaded the matching Files =) Thanks to PJcons

Lets see of we can make a De-Bloated Stock Rom.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
The guys over in Razr HD

Managed to get their 3G and 4G working or HSPA+

Any one know what radio they been using ?

I haven't had time ripping their radio apart ... to see what it is based off.

Maybe we can use that same radio also.

Also Atrix HD, Razr HD (Maxx Variants) seem to have a similar architecture to our phone i think.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2022296
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erfannf2:
Can anybody confirm that phone is functional outside of US with European bands?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
I think other people have reported it is functional, try to search in this forum (you probably have, but...).

I'm going to travel to Italy in a week, and while my phone is currently "modified" by using the Australian radio, I'll definitely try to flash back the original Verizon radio then report back (in fact, if I can, I'll try both vzw and aussie radio with a 3G enabled sim).
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Same here will be testing this phone out in Germany end of this week or early next week with both radios =)

Let me know how Italy goes =)
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safsaf_asm:
I put a Mexican sim card to the Verizon M Retail version and it works with no problem :) Not sure about European band but it should work
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Works in Germany, (Verizon XT907)

Will be switching Carriers to O2 to test Data on Stock and Aussie Radio
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
So what did you do to the stock RAZR M?

I want it to work on refarmed T-Mobile here in US to get H+ on 1900 band.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
Yes, I want it to work in T-Mobile US with 3G/H+ as well, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but currently it doesn't ... what we've been doing here is flash the XT907 (verizon) with the australian radio image (from XT905, telstra), and we only get edge with T-Mobile/AT&T (better than nada that you get with the stock radio...). I need to check which frequencies are used in Italy, but I'm going there soon and I'll definitely try to see if I get 3G/H+,with either the Telstra or Verizon radio.

Germanese, do you know which frequency bands are used in Germany with the carrier(s) you tried with? Is it 1900Mhz by chance, same as T-Mobile?

safsaf_asm, you too, do you know which frequencies does your mexican carrier use?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjcons:
Hey all... What is refarming?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
We're just talking about "refarming" to talk about the process T-Mobile USA is going through right now. They are in the process of moving their 3G/HSPA service from the AWS band (1700/2100) to PCS band (1900), so they are "refarming" their towers. The reason they are doing this is, so they can use AWS for their LTE service, which should be available some time in 2013. This phone doesn't support AWS, but supports (in theory) the 1900Mhz band, so we are hoping they complete this process fast :D Without the refarm, 1900 compatible phones only get edge.

You of course don't have to worry about all that where you are, that's why you haven't heard of it much, I guess.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safsaf_asm:
4G Data works with Verizon stock in Mexico
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Talked to T-Mobile

So i can figure out what areas have been re-farmed already

Cities that have been completely re-farmed or over 85% done.

NY, Las Vegas, Houston, Kansas, Baltimore, Washington, Miami, Fort Ladredale, Phoenix, Masai, Tuscon, Silicon Valley, San Francisco, Oakland, Stockton, Modesto, Atlanta, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, Sacramento , Fresno, Reno, Anaheim. (Some may be misspelled LOL)

3G 1700,

4G 2100,

2G 850,

2G 1900 Into 4G LTE eneabled

else

2G 850,

2G 1900,

4G 2100,

Some 3G 1700

If you live near these cities you may get refarm effect also since the towers may reach out to ur areas.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
I see. It would be very strange if that phone does not have 1900 band. I am pretty sure that is what used in Europe and other countries.

It has something to do with Verizon firmware that locks out US GSM carriers. That is why it works fine out of the box in Mexico and Germany.

I would be interested to know if someone tried it with some other custom ROM. Did they manage Razr HD to work on Tmo HSPA+?

Edit: Just had a quick look at AU Telstra frequencies and it looks like they use 850 MHz for 3G. That explains why we get Edge.

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies

We need correct modem firmware that supports 1900Mhz.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
We need the tool that can break down NON-HLOS.Bin

The samsung guys are hunting down the same thing.

They have a bounty set on who ever finds a way to use their Verizon S3 on 3g/4g

I am getting Edge (I guess 2G) on T-Mobile 0.21Mbps Down and 0.15Mbps

2G is 850 on T-mobile so Dumon is correct .... thats why we stuck on Edge 2G.

What i am trying to figure out is how ppl get 3G to pop up randomly...

The phone itself has 1900 & 2100 which should get us on 4G HSPA.

Though we wont have 3G Battery saving Mode since T-mobile doesn't Operate on 1700 ...
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safsaf_asm:
Same frequency as AT&T. (Iusacell Mexico - GSM)
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Here is the thread.

The samsung guys have a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 on AT&T Network which they also cant get Radio to accept 3G or 4G HSPA+

In their case 3G is the 1700 from AT&T which ours doesn't have but 4G and the basic concept is the same.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1895684

We are looking at the same solutions as them since they also cant get pass the Bootloader, we have probably a less likely chance with less Devs to get pass our bootloader at 1024 Encryption with eFuse Walls in the way.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Does the

Razr M Dev Edition Stock Rom Use a different Radio

Compared to the Verizon Retail ?

We know we can flash Aussie Radios.

What if we can get a Dump from the Stock Dev Razr M that are Non Verizon ?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
Someone needs to try that new modem from Razr HD thread. They are getting full HSDPA+ on T-Mobile 1900Mhz band.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Either I am keep on searching for wrong things or something. Can u link me to that thread, let's see what that model looks like.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
Here is the thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2022296
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
Thanks let me look into that later today

Has any one tried flashing a HD radio before ?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
I've asked OP of that thread if it should be safe to do so.

He said it should, and if it does not work you can reflash back to stock.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freak4dell:
I'm eager to see the results. It looks like I got ripped off on the Australian M I bought, so I may be back to looking for a Verizon one.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
Definitely DO NOT flash the XML.zip from that thread. The OP packaged them with other components from the HD that are not compatible with the M and the NON-HLOS.bin itself is probably not compatible either.

Mixing and matching partitions from different devices and especially radios can be very dangerous and you must always be extremely careful about how pre packaged hacks work and what they contain.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
I was just curious about NON-HLOS.bin.

Don't these phone have identical radio specs and chip sets?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
The NON-HLOS.bin if flashed by itself is compatible. You may need to also flash the fsg.mbn and erase modemst1 and modemst2.

But bottom line is it does work and appears to give better signal performance than the other AU radio.

I have my T-Mo SIM in right now getting -83dbm 13asu EDGE in non refarmed area.

My warning was about the package as he created it.

I am happy to be wrong about the modem itself and this seems like a very good option.

Will report back after more testing
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freak4dell:
Is the NON-HLOS.bin available by itself? Could somebody in a refarmed area test it out and let us know if you get HSPA+ or not?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
I never planned to flash the whole thing OMG no !!! LOL

The NON-HLOS.bin can be obtained by downloading that Firmware and then unzipping it.

Once you unzip it its visible for extraction, if you have WinRar you can probably extract it without unzipping.

So u can just use the file to flash or you repack it into the Razr M Stock Firmware FastBoot and flash it with RDSlite.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumon:
Sound like good news. I had a gut feeling that it should work.

Last piece is to test it out in refarmed area.

Can you provide quick steps that you did to flash it?

Thanks.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
I have extracted the NON-HLOS.bin

Curious, does any one have the fsg.mbn that someone was talking about ?

And what that file is for ? aka address or new parameters for radio/modem ?

XT925 (Telstra) NON-HLOS.Bin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3p0gw04ztwn0f9u/XT925_NON-HLOS.zip

XT905 (Aussie) NON-HLOS.Bin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4b4wwqyqjilc000/XT905_NON-HLOS.zip

XT907 (Verizon) NON-HLOS.Bin: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1gnjw237o1lrjkl/XT907_NON-HLOS.zip
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
Same story so far on ATT its GPRS only for me and P3Droid has EDGE only.

I will post instructions later. Still reserving judgement.

This is the Telstra XT925 NON-HLOS.bin NOT the XT926 BTW.

Baseband Version: VANQUISH_U_BP_1045.711.53.62P
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
OOOOOps

So its the Telstra XT925 they flash onto the XT927 ?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
GSM= -53dBm outside

GSM= -75dBm inside

GSM= -82dBm inside in a closet and both hands covering it LMAO

Still only see Edge, maybe i have to go more downtown to see H or 4G O.o

We have a few towers out here but the 100% re-farmed areas are downtown.

The radio seems more responsive but else nada.

I think we do need the Modem Rewrite mod ?

Just like what happened to them, AUTO Rotate stop working

Going back to XT905 Radio, I think he did a 2 file modification to the Flashable file.

Trying to get some more info what he exactly moded,
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
OK, this morning I downloaded the Rogers XT925 ICS fast boot XML and flashed the modem_signed file(same as NON-HLOS.bin) and it works but shows the exact same issues as the Telstra Modem. ATT shows G only and T-Mo is EDGE only.Also auto rotate is broken.

More research is needed...
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
You also only flashed the NON-HLOS.Bin only right ?

Do you know what files they edit to fix some of the issues ?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
Did you look at the zip?

I don't believe he edited any files, he included other partitions to be flashed.

gpt_main0.bin and device_tree.bin

The first is the partition table and the other defines all the hardware on the device.

I tried flashing device_tree.bin and gpt.main.bin from the M with the Telstra modem last night and it did not fix the problem with auto rotate.

From reading the thread it appears nobody else has HSPA working either.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
I didn't download his Zip, i went got their stock firmware and took the NON-HLOS.bin from that file.

In their thread some where getting 3G but no one got HSPA working as you stated.

At the moment i can't even get 3G to work, maybe i should try standing under a 3G tower they re-farmed recently LOL

Will try that next year sometime =)
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beiding:
I just followed the instruction here and run over on a Verizon Razr M.

But this is all I got :

"

> fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin

(bootloader) Variable not supported!

target reported max download size of 31457280 bytes

Invalid sparse file format at header magi

sending sparse 'modem' (28072 KB)...

OKAY [ 2.318s]

writing 'modem'...

(bootloader) Unknown chunk type

FAILED (remote failure)

finished. total time: 3.348s

"

After that, I got flash failure error at fastboot.

Do I miss any obvious thing? I am an Android programmer, but I am a newbie to this fastboot world. :o
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
You need an updated fast boot binary. At work now but will post later or check the Dev forum.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beiding:
Thanks for the suggestion, I manage to get it working on another machine.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crypto5:
I faced the same problem. Maybe you have any hints how did you manage to fix that?

Also I downloaded android sdk few hour ago, so have fresh fastboot. Or should I look for some other fastboot binary?
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
For me, the sdk fastboot worked for almost everything except flashing system. I'm on a mac. That said, to flash system I had to download the sources for the so-called "moto-fastboot" from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/razr-m.motorola/files/XT902_7.7.1Q-164_SMJ-165_MR2/, look for system.core.tar.gz, compile them, then run it, and it works wonderfully.

I haven't looked at the dev forum like cellzealot suggested, so you may look there as well.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cellzealot:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1953948

Courtesy of Frasertag in the HD forum.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Germanese:
This one Fixed my previous FastBoot Issue. =) Now i can flash things w/o the whole Firmware !!!
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
Hi Guys,

Just a quick update from Italy: I have a sim from CoopVoce (virtual operator going over TIM frequencies), with data enabled, and I happily get 3G and H+ wherever I go with strong signal :) if only I could get this in the US as well ...

I tried with both telstra and verizon radios, this is what I got:

- with wintermute's telstra radio: no signal at all, not even cellular/1G, not even emergency calls

- with pjcons telstra radio (radio image is different than wintermute): same as above, no signal

- with stock VZW radio (ICS): I get full speed 3G/H+ data, strong signal.

Note: except for the the first one (not available), I also flashed fsg and erased modemst1 and modemst2.

I checked with QXDM, and the frequency band used by this operator was "GSM 900" (Absolute RF Ch Num: 110 GSM 900, and yes it was for WCDMA not GSM, despite the name), so this is not a straight comparison with T-Mobile and the 1900Mhz band, but anyway. I don't know if this is new at all for anybody, but I just wanted to report it.

It seems that somehow the telstra and the verizon phones are different enough that their radios don't work with each other very well. If only we could unlock verizon's radio and try it on tmobile ...
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jessezx:
with aussie radio, at&t signal is vey unstable. my phone goes emergency mode from time to time. and possible fix?

thanks
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technologicrepair:
Hey Guys -

Thanks so much for the work that has been done on this so far. I was able to flash the Aussie modem to my Retail Verizon Droid Razr M which permitted me to begin using the phone on Straight Talk.

My question is:

Has there been any further development on using this phone on AT&T's 3G or 4G networks?

It appears that I am only getting Edge service at this time.

Any tips are much appreciated.

Thanks!
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aslomagic:
Unfortunately, no news for me at least. I tried different radios, the ones for the razr hd, and even the one for the electrify m, and the best I could get is edge (that is, with some radios i got edge, and some others i got no signal).

I'm currently using one of the razr hd radios, but it performs the same as the telstra radio.

Maybe we can try playing with the values of the nvitems, but I don't know how. Or, it's that time of the year when you realize the only way is reverse engineering the vzw radio and patch it... Not something I can attempt. Anytime else with better luck?