yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kz6fittycent:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Even better than before! Thanks again.:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

This would be something too work towards no doubt. It would really bring the whole thing full circle. I think you have greatly improved the apk keep striving for more you are doing very well with innovation.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rashidkhan:
Bug report:

With seeder enabled (google play paid for version 1.4) the following apps were not updating & coming up with the following error message when try to update:

"not enough space available", i tried many times but same error then i disabled seeder and viola! all the apps updated perfectly fine without any errors.

Apps:

facebook

online nandroid

AOKP Backup

Please can anyone look into this? Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Nick0703:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

I just updated Facebook with Seeder enabled and it went fine. I didn't get any errors.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] r0bertt:
Check it out but dont see any differences (ver 2.0.0b1)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ludak021:
so what are the best settings lol I know the question is stupid but introducing light moderate and aggresive makes me wonder. what are the differences (in theory) ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

It would depend on your device setup like OS version and kernel if it has anything already included to raise entropy you may see no difference. Older devices with too small of range of entropy pool that have Ui or anything that drains the pool fast would see the full advantage of aggressive. Devices that are not seeing fast entropy drain will surely be fine on the lowest setting.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mheltin:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Installed on Xperia U 6.1.1.B.1.54 firmware, and i noticed some improvements from my device, one thing i noticed is during startup, SuperSU's response from startup apps is kind of Delayed. is that Normal?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ludak021:
effectively,you sad nothing. Your input is appreciated but .. well, I asked what 2+2 is and your answer is "anything in range of 8 " NHF mate, but I really do like to know what basic and aggressive settings are.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

For anyone who isnt the developer of this app i am sure it is a fair analogy as to what the settings do. Since you need to know the exact precise difference between each setting, the developer is the best one to answer that and likely your original intentions. It doesn't mean I said nothing at all and for those who don't even know as much as you I am sure it was a statement that will help some. Not everyone wants extreme. Despite the exact specs most people will still be just fine on the lowest setting. Lets hear what the developer has to say. I just try to help, but no need to speculate on my behalf hear it from the man himself.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Milamber33:
Effectively, he answered your first question in the only way possible. You didn't ask as what 2+2 is, you asked what a+b is. The answer is c.

As the OP said (if you bothered to read the changelog), Light is identical to previous versions. Moderate and Aggressive increase how frequently Seeder reseeds the entropy pool. No details have been provided on how much more frequently, but I suppose that's a fair question. Even if the OP answers that, though, it still won't tell anone what the best settings for them are. Whether a more aggressive setting is of any benefit depends entirely on which device you have, what ROM and kernel you're running, which other performance tweaks you're using, and how much the apps you're running call on random data. We literally can't tell you what the best settings for you are, you'll have to try it for yourself and find out.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] RyomaEchizen:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Which is better? Extend I/O queue on? Or extend I/O queue off?

Enviado desde mi ST25a usando Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ludak021:
what you are saying is: it is not valid question to ask what option 1,2 and 3 does? Seriously? I mean SERIOUSLY?! Let's put it to a vote:

1: you know what 1,2 and 3 do

2: you know what 1,2 and 3 do

3: you are a guru and you think you know what options 1,2 and 3 do.

Shall we?

:cowboy:

edit: all I am saying is some explanation is required regarding the levels of aggression, nothing more. Is that too much to ask? Or would you rather prefer us to go about saying "low works best, agressive is crap" and " that is moot, agressive works better low is crap" ?!

if you want my personal experience: it does nothing for dual core and quad core devices. now flame me.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

I was referring to how the lowest RNG service performance profile is going to have the least impact on system resources and therefore those who use seeder for its designed purpose will prefer that option to observe the lowest battery life impact. As the user above states the change log reflects the option "light" is equivalent to that of the default setting of the last build for RNG service performance profile. The aggressive and moderate profiles based on the change log indicate they may use more resources and therefore battery life (though it may be negligible power draw) and why I figured even if we find out in some stat based on polling time or something it will still indicate only raise to moderate or aggressive if necessary. As in entropy is used too fast even on "light" profile the default seeder has been using in builds previous to this one.

The benefits based on the change log are clear that it will check more often and refill entropy on the moderate and aggresive profile.

I have not said to take my word, no one else's word nor to not seek the developers word. That would mean I am an arrogant ignorant person, that I am not. Lets not waste anymore space and lets proceed to hear what Lambgx02 has to say about the profiles.

I would probably have to be angry to flame and I don't see any flaming here. Peace seriously.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Abyssmal:
Does the developer even read here?! i would imagine it's not easy to filter the worthy comments, but still.

So after removing 2.0.0b1 and reboot - problem was still present.

Cleaned cache and dalvik - drain stopped.

Reinstalled 1.4 - again battery drain.

Removed 1.4, clean cache and dalvik - drain stopped.

Reinstalled 1.4 - no drain over the night.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cmoG530:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Thank you LORD! I was wondering why in the world I was only getting 2hr30min OST and BBS wasn't showing anything out of the norm. Downgrading Lord willing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] purpleraintoxicity:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Here to.. I'm going between 17-30%/h when screen on with seeder.

Also, yesterday, I lost 30% in 10 hours of idle... Way too much
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

I bet it's a rogue app, GPS lock fail (which means wakelock), or your governor doesn't like your phone. There is a PLETHORA of things that could've gone wrong.

Hater.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

It is literally impossible for seeder to be causing any battery drain once uninstalled.

Your complaining about a beta application you paid nothing for, you have any logs to actually back up your claims....no then stop complaining.

3% per hour idle drain is not bad, only of you have nothing syncing in the background could you expect much less.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Dafatfab:
Feedback

Hello, I've just installed the 2.0b1 apk in my Galaxy ACE (with CM10.0 - android 4.1.2) and, just in a couple of minutes after install, I can confirm that the system is MORE reactive, especially with the contacts/call manager or with the "drawing unlock interface"...

Very impressive, I will confirm my sensation later with more tests

:good::good::good::good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rashidkhan:
Thanks for responding. You didnt get this error but i did. Its sporadic. Has anyone else had this error here as well? :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Abyssmal:
Lol, a little hard on the caffeine there, huh?!

I am not complaining. I am stating facts. AND I am trying to be helpful to the OP. And yes - I haven't paid for the beta, BUT I did buy the market version to support the dev. :good:

So joke's on you.:D

PS: You're NOT your.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] anguslaw:
Re: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0b1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

It is funny seeing so many people complaining the battery drainage.

My battery is great with seeder. When idle, it lose only 1.2% per hour.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pee-wee:
Beta thing gone, now just 2.0.0
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jayden2009:
Yes why is beta gone.??..explanation please? I just had it installed :confused:

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9300 met Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] migueldbr:
with seeder script v7 i only lose 3% battery over 9 hours(when i am sleeping) on my Nexus S
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spupuz:
aggressive light or moderate?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jr_718:
You also have to factor the governor and scheduler...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Dafatfab:
=> Excellent.:D

Same happend to me. This new release has been published... today at 13h30 !!

But, no change between the beta1 et this "final" release. See the first post on page 1.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] anazhd:
you know it's epic when 2.0.0 released! ( without any changes from 2.0.0b1 ) :p

so, no need to reinstall the latest version :>
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
Thanks for the grammar correction, my soft keyboard with bad autocorrect doesn't know the difference...I do.

If you knew how Android worked you would know you have not stated fact.

Once you uninstall an application it no longer exists, there could potentially still be the dalvik file until you reboot... this file will not run and the rngd binary will certainly be gone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dungeonshard:
Oh . I think 2.0 better than 1.4:D app use 4mb and 2% battery on 7hour :o
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Hahah, id hope it would be better.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ludak021:
well, I left it on moderate, enabled the option to not run when screen is off, charged my phone, left it over night (8hrs) and battery was 97% when I woke up. so 3% in 8hrs, I guess sleep is working as intended so there is no battery drain whatsoever.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Andrev01:
Is this better than MPEngine (v9 or 11) now? This works only as an app (.apk)?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Two entirely different tweaks/apps dude..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eapepe:
i fell the change in my xperia x8 (overclocked). good job guys :highfive:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Andrev01:
I know it. But they both are to kill lags, yes? So which of theese is better to do it? I just want my Ray to be smooth...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Use both.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jr_718:
You really don't need both
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
I know he doesn't, but it seems like he's going to use both no matter what
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Andrev01:
Omg, I'm just asking which is better, don't want to use both of them... :eek: You're so helpful.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Okay. They're both good. Seeder will be beneficial to speed, and the other script will be too. They both will do different things to the system, and shouldn't conflict each other.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] purpleraintoxicity:
Nothing changed in the last 10 days. Only battery seems to drain faster since I moved to seeder.

And don't call me hater without checking first, as I still use the app and only reporting my side
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] primetechv2:
I think that would make xda a hater too, because they reported on their mistake of posting a link to this thread as a potential fix to begin with.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Pwnna:
I find that if my entropy is low and I just enable the service, then immediately disable it the entropy will remain fairly high.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] goodtimes50:
I've noticed the same thing. It seems to remain high for a day or more before it gets back down to the 100-200 range.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cuvetto:
Hi sir..i want to add this modify in my HUAWEI u8800pro rom. I yet have the version 1.4 (file RNGD in folder "system/xbin", and the file 91RNGD in the folder "system/etc/init.d"). How i have to do, to add this new version (2.0.0)??? May be sufficient to replace the file RNGD with the new one, or i have to do other??? I found in the file downloaded, other files (busybox and extend_io_queue.sh), What i have to do with those files??? The busybox i can replace with mine, but the other file????

Thank you very much for your work, and very compliments....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] D@vIcHoJD:
Excelent work, this work very good in my Galaxy s3. Excellent performancem smooth and fluid

Regards
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] idcrisis:
Hi,

I have proposed a different approach to solve the blocking entropy problem which should have no effect on battery life as there's nothing running in the background. It should also be more effective in reducing lag as the blocking nature of the device is now gone.

It involves removing /dev/random and linking it to /dev/urandom.

Please do let me know what you think:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37062006
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] debork:
This would be an equal fix if all lag removed was entirely due to blocked calls to /dev/random (which isn't a problem past gingerbread). Since a good portion--if not most--of the people here getting a benefit are running ICS+, it's fairly evident that the positive effect of rngd is due not so much keeping the pool not-empty, but rather keeping it full (or rather, above the threshold at which hardware entropy bits are constantly captured and mixed).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] usefulidiot:
yep...same here...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
This method was already suggested by Tungstwenty some time ago...it's here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36226518&postcount=331
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] earthnfire78:
building the binary from source and adding it to my ROM build, including an init.d script. This little thing is going to work out great with my kernel and the build.prop treaks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] idcrisis:
In addition to that, I've collected some other kernel parameters suggested by others to get the entropy values above 3000 without running rngd. All mentioned here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2113150

The idea is to combine the symbolic link with some other tweaks to keep entropy above 3000 and non blocking without using rngd.

The rngd daemon seems be be using 65% of system cpu on my devices. That's probably why it's been reported to increase battery consumption.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Goku80:
works fine on HTC One X on AOKP rom ICJ 4.2.1...many thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Andrev01:
So this app suspends on screen off to limit the battery drain... does it mean, that when screen is on it drains more battery than without this app? :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
What are you using that detects and shows RNGs cpu usage? Not BBS right? Does it show in OS monitor?

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
This is with seeder running the entire time on my LTE Galaxy Nexus, the BBS stats were taken this morning and the battery shot just now.

All devices are different but as you see Seeder is not causing drain on my Nexus.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DarkStryder:
I installed the beats audio driver from the google play store and once installed the seeder app wouldnt stop force closing!!:confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hatememarkz:
Lmao tff zep noobs

via my t679 runnin jb cm10 linaro kernel dbk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] maxim_united:
thanks!

I really appreciate your work. Can't believe it's not a native feature of android.

Just to mention, I've used your initial version after reading about it in lifehacker. Worked like a charm!

Upgraded to version 1.1 but didn't work as good as before, and it started to lag.

Just installed 2.0.

So far so good!

Keep up the good work man!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] obiwanek:
Odp: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Re

Wysłane z mojego Grand X In za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cocchiararo:
seeder basically controls a binary compiled for ARM

kinda hard for it to work on intel x86 procesors as is.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
Dev said he was working on cross compatibility
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thronnos:
Something I noticed. Anyone who is having weird or random force close issues with anything after enabling seeder. Try this, it fixed every fc for me. Keep seeder on, boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik. Then fix permissions and reboot. Doing that fixed all fcs

Shifted from planet Namek
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cegrade:
Can it be used on Gingerbread 2.3.6?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cocchiararo:
Hence, why isaid "as is" :P

yes
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] idcrisis:
Apologies. Further testing has shown that the act of linking /dev/random to /dev/urandom causes RNGD to take very high CPU ( due to some FIPS failure or something).

I guess some sort of loop or recursion is coming into play here.

I removed the link and rngd cpu usage came back to normal.

I have put the link back and stopped rngd as the wake threshold kernel params seem to be doing a similar albeit slow job.

Now rngd has to be made aware of the link and run every minute or so ( instead of every second ). This in addition to the kernel parameters.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MrxSiN:
CM10.1 compatible?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] earthnfire78:
I compiled the source rngd cm-10.1 that is on github (smaller binary) and installed it, just the binary with an init.d script, then I also wrote a script for the kernel mods and the random urandom link, and then have another script with the rngd binary and the kernel mod. I'm testing each one to see how will they perform.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jugster:
Why, yes of course.

Signature? Signature!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tjk410:
Can anyone tell me which option is da best on Xperia U .54 ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ludak021:
I think it should be said that this is best used on stock factory roms, like the ones on gs3. Aftermarket roms tend to have bloatware removed/reduced and optimized performance so the impact of the seeder will be minimal.

Second best use would be on the older or newer single core devices, such as some ZTE or huawei devices, perhaps htc hd2 and such as well. Devices that have 2-4 cores and solid aftermarket roms are less likely to see any improvement from seeder. I am siting on CM and aokp roms last 2 weeks, turning seeder on/off and notice no difference on my sensation 4g @1566mhz. Yet, on my huawei g300 seeder makes a niticable impact on performance, similar thing has been reported from my friend with htc hd2.

So all in all, people flashing or running the app on the HOX or S3 are probably wasting their time andsome of battery if they are not on stock rom.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sgtkid12:
What is the suspend on sleep stuff in the op for?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cmoG530:
Huh, should have tried that test.lol about to check it out Lord willing. Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cuvetto:
R: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

Someone can answer me, please???? Thanks at all.....:)

Inviato dal mio U8800Pro con Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] desalesouche:
delete all old file from rngd/entro etc... and then just install the 2.0 apk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step-han:
My flashable .zip will delete all old RNGD files and scripts and add the v2.0.0.

http://www30.zippyshare.com/v/79826998/file.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cuvetto:
R: [APK] Seeder 2.0.0 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction

I'm devoloper, i don't want know how install it, i want increase in my ROM......

Inviato dal mio U8800Pro con Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mheltin:
Flash the zip via CWM,.. or buy an iPhone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step-han:
If you are a 'developer' then u will know how u bring it on in ur own rom. Download my .zip and extract it. Then u will see how it works. Place the RNGD* binary in the xbin map and add the init.d script.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lontu:
I am using Ginger Revenge 1.3.0 Rom on I9001 but while enabling seeder phone shuts down... :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Vodzilla:
Great work! Thanks! :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] elitevet:
LOL, mate...

Edited....

sent from CM powered SGS
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kwattro76:
I have installed Seeder...the current version on

this rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1412046

this kernel: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1843518

and script: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2096759

Simply amazing, I'm all set until I get a new device...current device is my G2X

making a backup because its flawless...I will pay for the market version

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kolembo:
Super on my xperia x10i mini! Imagine that!

Thanks.