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[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] #Henkate:
I didn't blame you that you used contributor sources -.- lol. You got me wrong.

What i didn't like is that you said that you won't post anymore on xda because you don't have so much time, but you post on your google+ and website which is same thing. And from this i understood that you used xda thread to get more people on your website. I repeat, i understood this from that post. If i'm wrong , i'm sorry. But that's what's saying your post to me.

If you remember me from hangouts group..I tried to build Resurrection Remix few times ( got errors & bootloop), then i stopped building roms because it take like 5-6 hours due my pc and i can't keep my pc on so much time anymore.

Anyway, congratz for 22.000 views on your google+ page :p

PS: i'm not the guy who reported your thread.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] hastalafiesta:
Who cares about views or followers on my g+ page. To me is waaay more handy publish stuff on g+ also because so that more people can see my works and maybe benefit from them;)

I have never said that I won't never put anything on xda, now I m just waiting that the moderator reopens the thread.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] #Henkate:
The views / followers / downloaded times should motivate you lol.

And as an suggestion, an logo for DroidPro would be nice :p
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] TPD-21:
I think it is a useful advertising. And users Janice should not block it. If it is felt useful then please click on it. Or share to social media respectively. :rolleyes: :highfive:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] bobfrantic:
Happy mothers day to all the other mothers out there ;)

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] #Henkate:
[MENTION=3167139]didije[/MENTION] : I readed that you were using WP before android and now you are going back to WP. I had some WP phones in my head ( still don't have money though) which are really nice. Then i readed on internet that WP phones has some issues ( can't remember which). I would like to hear from you, honestly, what you miss from WP when you are using android and vice versa, if you miss something. Do you had issues with it?

Also, i want to hear the advantages and disadvantages of WP comparing it to android. How are microsoft services vs google services ? What you would like in WP?

If i would go to WP, i would miss so much the posibility of customization of android ( also Tasker app..). But, when i will work and so on, i will be busy and i think i won't have more time to customize my phone with zooper widget etc...

Please describe your whole experience using WP :D

The trailers of WP phones make me buy one. In my wishlist at this moment is S4 Black Edition.

[MENTION=2855249]bobfrantic[/MENTION] : Hey John :D Did you watch Eurovision yesterday? I kinda liked Belgium song xD
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] didije:
I've been using android since 1.5 version :D I only took a couple of months break to try WP. Honestly, I miss Windows Mobile 5 OS :) I still have a HTC Charmer, but I hard-bricked it.

Now, to the question. The only reason for leaving android was this everyday customisation and tweaking, switching roms back and forth, and the constant feeling that something is missing. When I switched to WP, my head and my fingers got a well deserved rest. And I really mean it. Since I don't use social medias (FB, twitter, IG) I am not the right person to discuss those but I heard that they are ok.

Even though I used a low-end WP (Lumia 620), the overall experience was great and I believe that it only gets better on higher-end devices.

Some Pros are:

Truly lag-free and smooth

Stable (not a single reboot or freeze)

After you set it up, you're done

Supported (it is said that every WP8 will receive WP10 update). I've received 5-6 updates in a couple of months

Some cons are:

Not as popular as other OSs

Not as many apps as for other OSs (but honestly, I've found an alternative app for every one I used on android)

No custom keyboards

Viber is kinda slow and heavy (maybe it is because of my low-end device, but still)

What else, it is hard to remember everything :) Emails and other push services, one drive, office, they all run just fine. The one thing I am missing the most are the complete backups (cwm, twrp etc.). They make things much easier.

You will miss the customisations and it will take some time to get used to everything. The thing I hated was this. Maybe it is due to 512mb of ram, but if you are running an app and you press home key, and reopen the same app from the homescreen or app list it will reopen and reload it completely 90% of the time, but if you press the back button or open it from recents it will not reopen and reload it will take you where you were prior to leaving it without a hitch. Other than that, there is nothing I did not like about the OS.

But, it is all a user preference. One cannot know if it is for him/her until tries it for him/herself. So my suggestion is for you to borrow from someone a WP device for a couple of days and try it for yourself (or buy a really cheap one for the first time, you can always sell it without losing a lot of money).

Cheers!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] mkaluza:
Be gone, Judas!

:P

but seriously now ;)

I've heard that WM was a good os - but I'm not sure if it's originally by microsoft or did they buy it from someone... It might be the latter since it didn't suffer from microsoft's suck-by-design philosophy..

This sound so unlike microsoft, but I must say it is true - I had a WP dev in my hand and it was nice and snappy - just worked... And that's what most people expect from a phone.

But be aware that you couldn't say that if it was not for Android - M$ had to compete with something, and since it couldn't be size because the market was full, it had to be comfort of use and reliability- esp on low end devices. But that's a good thing - as soon as google realizes that it gained all there can be from being first they will start to improve speed/quality - I suspect it's already happened with ART and Lollipop. And there's optimization - as you can see, SGA being a very old phone is still usable in terms of performance and it has come a long way here (remember first jb from samsung?? I'm still having nightmares...)

Yes:) And it's good both here - I would be very unhappy if I couldn't change the kernel in my phone ;D or run x11 on my tablet ;D But not everyone likes to replace the engine in their car every three months (but I would if I could ;D)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] bobfrantic:
haha no, I have never watched that. no time these days with the two doggies anyways maybe next year but who knows. :D
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] #Henkate:
Nice to hear these. Nokia lumia phones trailers simply atract me... every trailer of them :D For example this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UPbrssqgbM . Hmm. I think i will buy an Galaxy S4 and an WP phone, so i wont regret that i bought an WP phone instead android or that i didnt tried WP.. And i see that google services can be synced on WP ( http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/mobile-phone/3611733/how-to-sync-google-services-windows-phone-8/ ).

Well, im not so sure if i will buy an android device soon because when im using mkaluza kernel my phone doesnt feel so much laggy anymore. Right now i wish that my janice will live forever :D

Just like you said: "The only reason for leaving android was this everyday customisation and tweaking, switching roms back and forth, and the constant feeling that something is missing."

Thank you alot for your answer.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] Epirex:
Information, Linaro 5.1 not work for SGSA xD

CHK include/generated/utsrelease.h
UPD include/generated/utsrelease.h
Generating include/generated/mach-types.h
CC kernel/bounds.s
In file included from /home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/include/linux/compiler.h:48:0,
from /home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/include/linux/stddef.h:4,
from /home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/include/linux/posix_types.h:4,
from /home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/include/linux/types.h:17,
from /home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/include/linux/page-flags.h:8,
from /home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/kernel/bounds.c:9:
/home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500/include/linux/compiler-gcc.h:99:30: fatal error: linux/compiler-gcc5.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make[3]: *** [kernel/bounds.s] Error 1
make[2]: *** [prepare0] Error 2
make[1]: *** [sub-make] Error 2
make[1]: se sale del directorio `/home/epirex/cm11/kernel/samsung/u8500'
make: *** [TARGET_KERNEL_BINARIES] Error 2
epirex@MaxiCM-Team:~/cm11$
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] Paul L.:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/71458cfc782eafe4b27656e078d379a34e472adf

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/5631b8fba640a4ab2f8a954f63a603fa34eda96b

(TL;DR, you can simply copy include/linux/compiler-gcc4.h to include/linux/compiler-gcc5.h)

Actually, Windows (the NT branch) started quite good (it was brand new), written in C for portability (didn't even target x86 at first), it was quite surprising that MS added POSIX, targeted SMP since the beggining and started to drift apart from their monolithic kernel approach (the non-NT Windows kernel), the Windows 8.1 kernel (yes, the kernel) really seems like one of the best jobs Microsoft has done in years, but any improvement is easily underwhelmed by the ugly (I actually like it) UI, in terms of memory usage and power-saving, it's quite good.

And Windows Mobile developed from CE (the embedded version), which in turn developed into Windows Phone (and here the improvements of the Windows 8.1 kernel come from). It seems natural that Windows Phone works so nicely since every single phone has a customized Windows Phone (more or less) for it, while Android targets many more devices (MIPS, x86, ARM, are all supported), a prime example of that is the Dalvik VM (to make sure 99% of the apps work more or less in any device regardless of their CPU)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] mkaluza:
Yes, although I'm not sure if compiling such an old kernel with bleeding edge compiler will work or bring any benefits.

Well, so now that they have a good base, maybe the ui will follow. But the hope is still there ;)

I think you're mixing things here. The tuning of Windows you're talking about is the thing we do here with the kernel and looking at our experience with sga much can be done in this matter. The problem is - it's not being done (by the OEMs). And that's it - the kernel should abstract the hardware layer enough so that upper level apps don't need to care about it and if implemented properly, it does this very well. Again, the problem is the OEMs don't appear to give it enough attention (and considering we're mostly amateurs here with limited resources and access to source code (no history, just a snapshot), it probably wouldn't take much to do the same by i.e. Samsung)

Dalvik/java is another story. I suppose the goal was to make writing apps as easy as possible and I think it had been reached. The problem is, it came at a cost (of java being a resource hog). Dexing was meant to minimize that cost a bit by tailoring the code to the specific device it runs on and probably it helped in some way. ART is a big step forward as it compiles java into native code (although 2.5 times the size of dex) that works noticeably faster. I think ART closed performance gap - once it's fully optimized in lollipop, Android has nothing to be ashamed of ;)

It'll probably still fall behind Apple, but it's unavoidable considering the unification Apple has and fragmentation Android has to deal with. But it's also a different price level... Anyway, I think Android is doing just fine ;)

Btw - I'm not yet able to show measurements, but I think that ART provides noticeably longer battery life. Looking at it...
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] Paul L.:
Ah, sorry, I was in a bit of a hurry in that part so I left my idea incomplete.

What I meant is that in comparison seems that, just like you said, Microsoft does this job for the OEMs, and while I certainly understand that Android is not just Google's OS, but Open Handset Alliance's, it seems that something can also be done without OEMs intervening, you know, like ArchiDroid optimizations; he points a very clear fault there, that Android is (mostly) compiled with -Os flag (optimize for size), but we had devices more than capable of sustaining a 500MB+ /system partition since atleast 2012, and in that regard, the GCC compiler has been fine tuned a lot for ARM targets (without talking about x86. which should be even better) quite a while ago, yet a lot of those optimizations are hidden behind some of the -O2 or -O3 and we may be missing some (or a lot) of performance from there.

Also, what I meant for Dalvik, is one of it's advantages (and possibly objectives), that allows for code portability without writting natively; if you remember, when Android was first released, the market was dominated by Apple, and Blackberry; to achieve the numbers Google has today, I see that the whole system had to be portable to a number of CPUs to make it popular, and easier for the OEMs (because we are talking about third party devices, not like Apple and/or RIM) to choose from (from any choice of x86, ARM or MIPS CPUs the market had at that time) and port to. Dalvik/java alleviated most of the problems of having different target CPUs by running bytecode and using JIT compilation. Of course, the problem then was the availability of storage, so we only had the choice of JIT compilation, instead of ahead of time like we have now (with it's enormous storage constraints). And then, another of it's included advantages was being easier to code for, by being Java/Java-based.

I simply think that Google did the "Dalvik thing" most likely to alleviate OEM concerns, more than being something to make app developers jobs easier.

Maybe we could see more improvements on the graphics part, but other than that, I agree with you, Android seems (mostly) in top notch condition now.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] Epirex:
Thanks you, I got successful compile with GCC 5.1

I need test performance these days :)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] #Henkate:
[MENTION=5464206]AntaresOne[/MENTION] : Congratulations for RD dude !!! :fingers-crossed: :good:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] AntaresOne:
Thank you so much mate :) it's a honor to have this title :D
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] rol525:
Is awesome have a S4 with Mattia working on it :D
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] AntaresOne:
Thank you too :p more greatness is coming in the next days

P.s. I still have to answer you on Hangouts, sorry :D
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] rol525:
I can´t wait :D

Don´t worry answer when you can, but prepare, i´m going to build AOSPA and i have a lot of questions of building for S4 :p
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] Paul L.:
So, I have been reading some of the last pages of your CM11 thread, to answer one of the questions (This post specifically, which probably has already been answered), we felt that zram was a good idea because at the time we did not have a (proper) swap partition; then we mounted preload as swap, and something funny that I didn't recall until now:

Every single one of us forgot to disable zram, and that is why swap on /preload never worked properly on TeamCanjica releases.

(because swap was already mounted, duh)

(wait, shouldn't swapon /preload still work anyway? ah, why I start wondering these things at 5:35 am)

(YEY, PROGRAMIN')

Still, is probably a good idea to tweak the Swapiness value to something like 15%, for those who have swap enabled, so the swap isn't used until is, really, really, needed.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] jineshpatel30:
[MENTION=3167139]didije[/MENTION] [MENTION=4471434]Force[/MENTION]

well i was reading your WP n Android discussion.

and i don't agree with 1st pro of didije "truly lag free experience"

let me give 2 aspects of this..

1. WP are lag free

my friend has WP (mid-range) , when ever i starts any game in this phone it stars with lot of lag ! so whenever any WP(or iPhone) user says that they have most fluid rom ... i say ( at-least in mind :p) are you F**king kidding at me ?? both of them don't have home & launcher as different app..what they have (launcher or whatever they call it ) always runs in ram as unkillable so it's definite that it'll run smoother...if you want to try use 3rd party launcher in iPhone and then load heavy app and go to home and feel The Lag !! ( don't know about WP bcz i haven't seen any 3rd party launcher in it yet )

2. (this can be interpreted from that sentence) Android is not that much smooth

90% of android users don't use Pure android..they use lot modified version of Android by OEM and they always cries that Android is laggy !!

i personally have android one ( ~100$ device) ( 99.99% pure android ) and Nexus 5 ( 100% pure ) and i'm proud to say that when anyone say Android is laggy i laugh at them ! bcz i hv never seen a single glitch or lag on any of both devices. i used them for months and more interestingly more than a month without single reboot ( and i'm not talking about random reboot ) so memory management is that much great in them.

the only lack of Android one is that you can't run heavy games on it & it's not meant for that bcz simply it's hardware is not up-to that mark and no one will give you that much in this price range ;)

i don't know what/how much OEM modifies to make device crappy but it's certainly not right to blame Android for others' crap. ( and you know what even Moto phones looks like same as Nexus in software it also has tons of different things than AOSP code {as per post from senior dev in Xposed module thread }

I may sound like Android Fan boy ( because i'm :silly: ) but things i said are what i hv experienced so they are cent percent true as per my knowledge & experience so i always force everyone to go for pure android :p

but the problem is most of people prefer what is visually appealing ( like Ram , SD-card support , camera megapixel etc....etc ) over total overall experience and so they finally choose OEMs
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] mkaluza:
Ok, I've looked into ArchiDroid (he's actually from PL ;) ). I've checked (briefly) those -O flags, but most interesting was the github article about optimizing kernel compile ;) The guy managed to get 0.05% decrease in execution time ;D extraordinary ;) But the read was good because he provided a full analysis that this improvement exist and it's not just measurement error :)

But in the meantime I've found some docs http://source.android.com/devices/tech/debug/tuning.html and http://source.android.com/devices/tech/ram/low-ram.html. While the latter is already implemented in my kernel, I've made a set of options for hwui:

root@janice:/ # cat /data/local.prop
ro.hwui.texture_cache_size=8
ro.hwui.layer_cache_size=6
ro.hwui.gradient_cache_size=0.2
ro.hwui.path_cache_size=2
ro.hwui.r_buffer_cache_size=1
ro.hwui.drop_shadow_cache_size=1

Defaults given in the docs were for screen 1280x800, which is 2.5x bigger than ours, so I've recalculated those. Now I'm just using the phone to see how it turns out :)

I'll also dive into source code and see how android uses cgroups - maybe then I'll figure something out about swap.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] didije:
I'm too old for gaming :D To be honest, the only game I have ever played on a smartphone is sudoku :) Regarding launcher, there is no need for the alternative one. the default one on WP works flawlessly and smoothly like no other launcher on entire playstore (even on a low-end devices). And, honestly, I always set my android launcher to be kept in memory because that is the only way to eliminate redraws.

My experience is different. I've been using many android devices, and do you know why each and every one of them had custom recovery flashed? So that I could backup my device. Why? Because I had to restore my device every once in a while, sometimes after a week, sometimes after a month etc. Why? Because over time android just slows down, loses its fluidness, smoothness and the overall experience is just annoying since you know that it can run without those issues, and the only way to deal with this is to do a factory reset or to restore your backup. This is my experience on a low, mid and high-end android devices. Haven't played a lot with lollipop though.. And regarding WP, the overall experience was the same after 6 months as it was on the day one.

[MENTION=3329816]mkaluza[/MENTION], man, you must be old too :D :D ;)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] Paul L.:
Because...I don't know, that's not a decision I made; thing was that /preload was used for...just, nothing? The other ideas were expand /system with space from preload (because we were getting near to using all space available in /system), but I think we all felt that we had to use /preload for _something_ other than some useless files.

(and then we ended up making it again ext4, because of the problems for stock users)

So, for reading about ArchiDroid stuff (is basically changing the compiler flags from android_build), http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2754997

(EDIT: I just noticed that you already read about archidroid stuff)

I don't use them actually, but, I know that his claims of -Os for the majority of the system being a waste are true.

(anyone brave enough to thinker with -Ofast? lol)

By the way, our kernel (actually the Mali driver) does not support CONFIG_ION=y right?
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] jineshpatel30:
Did any of them was Nexus or Android One ?? ( basically pure android ) if answer is No then there is nothing more to say :p

Bcz OEM devices are not pure android and they always lacks a lot in performance.

Actually IMO Google needs to force OEM to print "Based on AOSP 5.x.x " instead of "Android 5.x.x" in device>version.

And about launcher redraw.. i didn't get any single redraw on Default Google Now launcher.

Also if you are using phone without gaming then even 100$ AndroidOne will work as fluid as 1st day even after 1 yr. And that's why no android phone come with recovery that has backup option by default.

Finally if i were you i never buy high-end phone bcz if i'm not gonna use it's all resources then why should i give more money :p (till today only thing that use most of resources of smartphone are games ,may be in near future we'll see other heavy softwares on Smartphone ( like pro-E , AutoCAD)

Or atleast i wish to see them :p)

Anyway everyone has own different choice n like :D
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] jadega:
I strongly agree with [MENTION=4942685]jineshpatel30[/MENTION], WP have a fluid UI but when it comes to gaming or running a heavy app the phone starts lagging moreover WP's have a limited apps and gamea whereas in Anroid we have a whole new world of apk's and custom roms

Overall Android is far far ahead from WP :)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] dagger:
Anybody among you planning on buying yuphoria? [MENTION=4942685]jineshpatel30[/MENTION] [MENTION=5812391]jadega[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] didije:
If you don't count CM and its variations, not so many. Most of the "pure" ones were low to mid range phones. But I did use HTC One Google Play Edition. That counts as a pure android :) And it was a terrible experience. Regarding buying a high-end phone, I agree. Also, I am searching for a smaller phone (display around 3.7"). I don't see a point in using a phone that cannot fit into a pocket :D I mean, come on, a "phone" with a 5.5-6.0" display? And people carry those bricks everywhere. I'm an old-fashioned kind of guy. I will never carry a purse (yes, more and more men are carrying man purses) I need a phone to be a phone, for everything else I use a tablet (there are so many decent and cheap tablets out there).

P.S. There are some AutoCAD apps on playstore :)

P.P.S. I really hate this phone. Check the screenshots, new 1700mAh battery with just WiFi on (stock, heavily debloated rom)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 General] jadega:
Dude I already have a YUREKA which is far better than YUPHORIA and with Snapdragon 615 and 13MP camera YUREKA purely dominates YUPHORIA :)