yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kreatonn:
Move seeder to internal memory..

If u're DRAGONFORCE lovers, please hit THANKS button :P
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
(system/app/)

and change permissions to rw-r-r prior to rebooting
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jhuff83:
Did that, and it's still showing off when I go into the app after rebooting.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vickzkater:
thanks for ur good works. I just flash it on my wonder. hope it works very well :svetius:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Patrol619:
I have this even though i have root and newest busybox:

What's wrong?

Xperia sola@Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShivangDave:
which kernel you're using ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Patrol619:
I use Vengeance 1.28 for XSola.

Xperia sola@Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShivangDave:
vengeance is having frandom script so seeder wont work with it...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Patrol619:
Yeep, you're right, there is some frandom script in init.d folder ;) So this is the cause.. Thanks :)

Xperia sola@Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShivangDave:
:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Sylvia:
The same here. Could this be fixed?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] anonymously:
I completely underestimated this apps performance and overall improvements to the fluidity.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BrUhNiGGs:
I know this question may have been asked several, and several times but how does this compare to Crossbreeder in a majority of your guy's opinions? Do both actually do the same to achieve performance or is seeder different. Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
CrossBreeder has turned into a tweak package, as far as simple entropy generation goes...they do the same thing. Both use very little CPU to accomplish said entropy generation, personally I like CrossBreeder for all it does.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sinisin:
If you have an Frandom enabled kernel Crossbreeder works way faster then Seeder.

Sent from my SIII
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BrUhNiGGs:
I really have no idea what frandom is/what it does. I'm just using stock kernel on my Vzw S3 on a 4.1.2 touchwiz ROM. How would I know if it's enabled?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lim Wee Huat:
It's best to request to add frandom support to your current kernel from your kernel developer...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BrUhNiGGs:
Hmm but the thing is the kernel I'm running is just a stock kernel developed by VZW lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cloud26:
Sir, why do I always get an error like No such file or directory? Please help.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
You don't have to quote the whole first post ... Just buy from play store or download the apk from the first post and place it into your sdcard and use a file manager to install it .
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
Why'd you quote the entire OP?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] temporarium:
At which point do you get this error? What are you trying to do?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cloud26:
Sorry for quoting the whole post. I was just flashing seeder v7 which is also linked here. And It says bad file.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
You must be living in the future , having seeder V7 ... This is an .apk file not a zip for you to flash . Like I said in my previous post , download and put it into the sdcard and use a file manager to install it .

Sent from my HTC One X ( Android Revolution HD )
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Try using the non-flash version...install it via Terminal Emulator...it might be an update-binary error or you flash the installer zip which was meant be run using TE...

There is a flashable seeder...it's linked in the first post...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cloud26:
Will it work on CM 10?

---------- Post added at 10:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 PM ----------

Oh sorry, I saw the Seeder v7 on Galaxy W. I thought it was for ALL androids. Sorry for my mistake. Anyway thanks for all of your responses.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Lol...it is for all arm based Android devices...any version will do...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] thref23:
I installed this a couple of days ago. I am running ICS with a single core processor and 512MB ram - low specs. It is not clear whether the app's main function (cleaning entropy) is doing anything for me. However, the 'extend i/o queue' feature seems to make a definite, if small, improvement in performance.

How do I know this? I had played a couple of 720P Divx movies in MX Player (on my phone MX does not take advantage of hardware decoding/acceleration) - both were watchable, but glitchy, with occasional unprovoked lags/glitches and the video would lag behind the audio slightly. I have since discovered that Diceplayer is able to playback most videos using hardware decoding, but the other night it wouldn't open a 1GB+ 720p mp4 file. So I tried playing it in MX, partially just to test out some changes to my config. Watchable but audio seemed to cut out here and there, and the video was only so smooth. I installed Seeder the next day. Played the mp4 again, no noticeable change. Then I checked the 'extend i/o queue,' and tested MX again. Now, the mp4 plays lag free. Sure you are reminded that the CPU is being taxed (the video isn't smooth as butter) and there is momentary lag when I adjust volume or other settings, but as long as I lay off volume there is no explicit lag at all and the video stays in sync with the audio.

Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MBQ_:
My Android runs on leg. ;(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Lol...good one...:p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gameboy20131:
rngd startup failed

hi, i am having a problem about when i press the enable seeder lag reduction, a window pops up (the attachment)

plz help

edit: i already allowed root permission and i checked superuser
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
try updating busybox or clearing the cache of the app
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
Have you previously used CrossBreeder?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] LeroViten:
Frequently happens when you run a custom ROM like RootBox, LiquidSmooth, PacMan or others.

They don't have the "init.d" folder for scripts. Look in your system with file manager like Root Explorer for etc/init.d and if you can't find it ... I'm afraid you will not be able to use seeder. :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Blondasisko:
Check if the kernel that you use does not include entropy tweaks, because seeder does not work with them. It happened for example with mine - Mackay kernel.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cobra11111:
What is better moderate or agressive?

Have Samsung S4

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
S4 is a high-end smartphone . Just use light .
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] LeroViten:
Why would I use that app if I had S4? :eek:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Zephyr!:
Seeder sucks battery alot. Wakelocks are high:(

Press thanks if you like my work/advice
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cobra11111:
I have Coustom Rom on my Samsung S4 and Seeder is on my Rom

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
Don't think so ... It's just you I guess . The app itself does not do anything actually .

But if you don't want it , you could uninstall using Titanium Backup or go into /system/app
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cornwall:
Hey there,

To share my experience: I've been using seeder without a custom kernel, and it performed great. I couldn't live without it.

I now have Boeffla kernel on my S3. I disabled seeder for quite a few months because I read it was included in some kind of ways in that kernel. I suffered some terrible lags sometimes, with frequent redrzws of Apex.

The other day, I decided to switch seeder on, with LIGHT parameter, and no I/O. It is included in Boeffla I guess, but the gain was immediate. Now, it is set to ON all the time, and combined with "greenify", I totally rediscover my phone ! No lags, responsive phone... Great !

Thanks again for this hugely impressive work ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] korpenkraxar:
Source code?

Hi all!

Is this app open source? If so, where is the source code?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GabrielSebastianMoise:
OpenSource projects and free apps are not the same thing...

Search about entropy generator and you'll find useful information...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PredatorX11:
i have try it, on my x10, but when i install the apk, and open it, the program do not work, repply me "the phone is not rooted"?

but my phone is rooted and i have the ferarom v27....:confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
Try updating busybox . Or did you reject access ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PredatorX11:
busybox is already update.

and seeder have the rooted privileges from supersu.

this is the error message:

seeder was unable to start the rng service. this usually happens if your device is not rooted, or if seeder has been denied root privileges.

:confused::eek:

my rom is feralav v27 and i have the lock bootloader.

thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
Does your ROM / kernel have entropy tweaks ? Or installed MODs such as CrossBreeder ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mfredom:
I have same error message with SENSE ROM on my Desire HD rooted (tested with SVHD 1.7.2 , Viper DHD, Nik_Project_X_Rebirth_DHD V 1.6)

I have trying with zip installer and not work.

Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kenny_cfc:
Even i am getting the same error.

Using gimlo rom.

Sent from my ST23i
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PMOttawa:
Thank you...

I've had a skip/lag problem on my SGSII that's been driving me crazy, even through several kernel and ROM changes.

I tried this and it fixed it. So I just bought the updating app off the Play Store. Thanks for the great work.

-----------

Is there a post somewhere here about the options? Couldn't find it. I went with the standard choices but was wondering what they do?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bobbyphoenix:
Look at the app description from the Play Store. The options are described pretty good there. That's where I learned what they were. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PMOttawa:
Yeah. I found that not long after posting this. Thanks for the reply.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SuicideFlasher:
confirmed to work on acer liquid glow, i am having some trouble on need for speed (used to lag like hell) because i was getting used to slow motion and now it runs just fine :D

they should rename it 'need for seed' LOL

EDIT: my brain must have slown down together with the game :silly:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phat1205:
Awesome

Awesome app , thanks pro
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] raiders13:
Is it ON or OFF?

So is it on when the button show ON and the light is lit, or when the button shows OFF and the light is off. I know this might seem obvious but I have seen apps where the button shows what you want the status to be not what the current status is.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] temporarium:
It's on when the button show ON and the light is lit.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eryzerz:
Afaik, its because frandom. You must tell this problem to your kernel developer. Tell the dev to make a frandom fix. It will fix the problem. :thumbup:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jeewan Deep:
MX A110 running on lewa OS with seeder..

hi... i just wana say .. plz change it in such a way that it will run on boot.... bcz i had to always turn it on in terminal emulator or by using the latest seeder apk....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] temporarium:
That's what the "Start automatically on boot" checkbox is for.

The app works correctly; if you're having issues, do some research to find out what may be the cause in your case.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jeewan Deep:
ya... buddy.. dts the thing... i want to make it function without the app... i want it to automatically run itself on boot without da app.. as fas as i have seen i can run it by the app nd by the terminal.. so, what i want is .. 1ce it started .. i will continue to function nd give us 4096 entropy.. nd will only stop when we tell it to...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Markc2:
I'm also getting the "seeder was unable to start the rng service. this usually happens if your device is not rooted, or if seeder has been denied root privileges." On a rooted Droid Bionic. Root has been granted, SU and binaries and everything is updated. Thing is, it already says "available entropy 4089", so I wonder if the service is in fact running (?).

Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eushaun99:
Your kernel probably has frandom. Mine has it too so rngd service can't be started.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
One has nothing to do with the other, perhaps if your ROM/kernel developer not only included frandom but symlinked it to dev/random this would be the case.

Look in /etc/init.d for a script that may be interfering (linking frandom).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eushaun99:
Nah its OK. I don't use seeder anyway. I use CrossBreeder. :D

Thanks for the help though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trithong:
My ROM doesn't have init.d in system/ect ? how can i use it ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Install the APK and use that (read the OP).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trithong:
Okay My phone already had Init.d Support..and I installed seeder by the Terminal way ( sh install.sh ):laugh: but when type su and seeder then type 1 in Terminal, it says that : seeder can not be started because rgpn..:( Poor me :p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Redaaku:
Thankyou very much for this awesome tool [MENTION=1107425]lambgx02[/MENTION]

Lags reduced dramatically after using this. :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trithong:
I have install itr by the terminal way!! and when i typed su --- seeder ---- press 1 , it said that qrngd in system, and can't start , how can i do
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] LeopardSurd:
Thanks for your work. Just wanted to suggest you an updated icon for Seeder (see attachement).

The original 512x512 file (size required for Google Play) can be downloaded here.

Regards!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Read the post you quoted:

:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lozohcum:
My seeder apk can't obtain root access. I gave it with SuperSu but it still says it can't run due to not rooted device... my device is rooted
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lakum:
I'm getting these on my device when trying to run seeder. Both with the zip and the apk (I didn't install them both at the same time).

- XDA Rocks -
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lakum:
The zip version's terminal output.

- XDA Rocks -
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] trithong:
thanks you , now i'm using rngd in init.d , and my entropy is 4096 now , but what should i do with extend_io_queue file??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] L0kiii:
I was gonna say 'same here', but entropy tweaks already built in my particular ROM (4.2.2 Mackay CM on I9000)... Yours?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lozohcum:
Nope, I have stock JB with custom kernel. I'll check if my kernel has it built in
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Deathshead747:
Thank You for this wonderful app....it has made my device almost completely lag-free! :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Villani10:
Hey, i'm using the CM10 Final and everytime i open the app and try to set it On, it responds me this:

"RNGD Setup Failed: Seeder was unable to start the RNG service. This usually happens if your device is not rooted, or if Seeder has been denied root privileges. Check your syoeryser and/or su binary installation, or try restarting your device."

Well, my phone is rooted and i give it the superuser allow... am i doing something wrong?

Sorry for the bad english.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
Try revoking SU permissions, then granting them again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] D_Viper:
One question guys:

I'm running ICS 4.0.4 on my Optimus One, if you now Placebo 1.1, with sweet & Sour Kernel (2.35.x.x version)

I correctly install version 7 of seeder (install.sh...) but when i try to get on the script (su seeder 1) i receive this error message:

"can't oper or create /data/rngd.pid: Is a directory /system/bin/seeder[152]: cannot create /proc//oom_adj: No such file or directory...."

Then say Done! but scpirt don't run...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ivcha90:
Can someone tell me how to set app and which option is for what, i installed and set to ON seeder lag reduction, default on is suspend rng service while screen is off (can someone tell me exactly whats that mean), for what is Extend i/o queue??? and to which option to set rng service performance profile? i use few heavy apps so i dont know which option is best for that
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GermainZ:
"Suspend RNG service while screen is off" -> Read the FAQ

"Extend i/o queue" -> 3rd main paragraph of OP:

"which option to set rng service performance profile?" -> 2nd main paragraph of OP:

tl;dr: read the OP before asking questions, it avoids redundancy and will usually get you your answer much faster (and no one will blame you for not reading the OP!).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShadowsDie:
Hello i'm using LoxKernel on a Galaxy Ace Plus and as some other users i have the "not rooted" problem

i read it is a frandom problem (idk what it is) and well in the kernel it says this:

Frandom Generator (linked /dev/random & /dev/urandom to /dev/frandom)

what can i change something so i could use this app with this kernel?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Muikkuman:
Frandom is a entropy generator if I understand it right.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShadowsDie:
so i don't need this app? i can just use the kernel's one?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Muikkuman:
If that's the case then yes you don't need this app.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abhi08638:
frandom is a kernel module found in the system directory and its useless if it isn't being used

However if your kernel dev has states that there is frandom entropy generation then I would suggest checking your entropy levels to see if it is around 4096 if not you should use cross breeder as it will auto detect it and use it

sent from my Optimus 4x

just hit the thanks button
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] turilo:
Might give this a go,thanks ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] readz_one:
hey guys, i got this error too and i've already tried to revoke the SU permission but i still get this error. know any fix ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shilei7899:
Same here.

Since other apps are getting root privilege without problem, it's likely that the root detection doesn't work on all roms;

Device: Desire HD

Rom; SVHD 2.0.0
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] godofgeeks:
I am also facing same problem ..earlier it used to work fine but now it is giving error

- Sent from my Super Geeky Handheld Device :cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Muikkuman:
If you have stock SVHD kernel then you don't need this app and it won't work as pacha included a entropy generator in his kernel.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MarkusBurns507:
Great work perfectly
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] notstevek:
Works amazing on my vzw galaxy s4.. phone just runs smoother and better all around.

:beer::beer::beer::thumbup::thumbup:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BrooklynNY:
Thanx! Just found this! Looks great! :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wapvirus:
thanks makes a noticeable difference on my android usb stick mk802III :cool:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 4Freedom:
i havent notice noone different why??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] electronical:
OK, i have a (possibly) stupid question... I am using Seeder 2.0 and i wondering when is the app working? When the button shows ON or OFF? This is confusing to me, as i am not sure if pressing the ON button actually turns it on or is the app already on, hence showing me the button ON. :p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chaun1308:
When it's working , the entropy generator on the bottom should be 4096 . That's when you know it's working
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Il Giulione:
I really can't understand why this app is no longer supported :crying:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eddietah:
My seeder in my note 2 used to work fine, but today when I try to start it, it always show Seeder is not responding. I have already try uninstall, reboot and install again but still the same thing happen :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] masoud70kg:
performance goes downward

tnx dude, this app work great for me, but after about 30 minutes online gaming everything goes back to normal and seems seeder performance goes down by time like a downward trend by time

how can i reset everything to the first place :eek:

I have nexus 4 and rooted android 4.3

TIA
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] El_Dark:
I suggest you to check out the V6 Supercharger by [MENTION=3357461]zeppelinrox[/MENTION] that one should help you better ;) check it on my signature! Beware though, you'll have to study a lot!! But the outcome will be the best!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] astig_king24:
how to install to CM 10.2 and how to use it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pitastrudl:
install the apk thats in the op

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] matrixzone:
Heard lot about seeder, so planning to try this MOD. Anyone please confirm, if the latest version is v2.0 which seems to be updated long back in Jan, 2013. Is this compatible with 4.3?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Martin-Doc:
Yes, it is. No problems running it on CM 10.2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] astig_king24:
how about for stock 4.1.2 rooted? it is ok to apply?