yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] martin707:
Im trying it out now on my galaxy tab 8.9 with cm10.1. There is some noticable improvements over launching applications. Still observing the effects on battery life.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] makkaroni:
Its true 1.2.8 works better as the latest version. Even on my phone the app increased the performance significant! Im really impressed. *thumbs up*

Sent from my xperia ray running fxp 201
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ROM_MAN:
Hi I have used this on my T mobile samsung Galaxy S2 with ics 4.0.4 and it got a lot smoother. I also used it on my son's T mobile samsung Galaxy S gingerbread 2.3.6 and it also made it smoother so thank you for the mod. My es file explorer loads so quick and my settings loads so much faster it's just super. :thumbup:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rlorange:
Two people say 1.2.8 is the best so I down gradeed... seems maybe a bit better too hard to call just yet

Edit: both version seem equally good to me
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ozukeza:
How to install it it has 3 files

I just install APK only but don't seem anything change. Can someone give me a method how to install this
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vlt96:
1. Buy an iphone

Sent from my LG-P509
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
You can make that a third. I don't know why but it just feels smoother.

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All you need is the apk.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] EatHeat:
I read somewhere u have to download about 650 mb data and keep ur phone under water while installing.. XD :D

Sent from my Galaxy Y GT-S5360. Press thanks if I helped you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
You guys are terrible lol! Welcome to Xda!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jas0nsg:
1.2.8 is better than 1.3.1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
Yeah. Sticking with that for now.

Edit: It seems to keep the entropy meter full more of the time. If that makes sense lol.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
1.2.8 makes less calls to binaries upon launch, it is not better just launches quicker and uses less entropy upon launch.

The rngd functionality is the same.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cocchiararo:
that method is not that useful,s specially on 2.x

Edit: seems not to do anything for me even, entropy remains the same

Weird, once the sleep on screen off was introduced, even my nexus 4 has no extra drain

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
Yeah but it seems that it helps apps launch a little quicker too. It just makes the whole device feel smoother. Maybe it's just certain devices with certain software because I'm not alone on this. Others feel the same way.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 5318008:
The dev posted that app in this thread a few pages back. It has a similar effect through a slightly different method. It works on my Droid 3 better than Seeder. I recommended that the dev start a new thread for their app but I don't know if they have or not.

--posted from my phone
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Sacob:
does this work on all android versions or just ics+?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bajasur:
I cannot believe how many hits this thread has gotten! Every time I check there's a few hundred new pages
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] atxbang56:
all

Sent from my pretty cool Nexus S

Phone : Google Nexus S i9023

ROM : Helly Bean Nightlies (Android 4.2.1) + BrainMaster Seeder Tweaks

Kernel : Marmite v7.2.3 by Bedalus @1096 MHz (FSB OC)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Hey - good for them. :) The more the better.

I'm a sysadmin by profession and only do this as a hobby. Sure, app sales are nice and hugely appreciated, but competition drives innovation and I want everyone on the platform to benefit from the discoveries anyone - users or developers - make. It's why I've always offered my mods for free (and always will), even if I do have a version on the Play store.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Thanks for the report; a few users have noticed 1.2.8 seems more stable and responsive for them. I'm trying to figure out exactly what I did to break things.

Most of the "fixes" have been workarounds for specific devices/builds to try to avoid ANRs (app-not-responding) but for each device I fix, I seem to break others.

I'm working on separating out all of the process control code to a separate service, which should solve everyone's issues once and for all. Or so the plan goes. ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sonnhy:
What do you think about this app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zdvdev.sef
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
this......
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rlorange:
Ditto
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BrunoSlivar:
I install this seeder 1.3.1 on my LG L7 and still is too slow. I am sad :(

sent via best phone htc one x
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] OmegaBlaze:
Anyone here tried the "LazerDroid" Mpengine scripts on their phone?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fujirunner:
Just gonna throw in my 2 cents here as I've been reading and keeping up with this thread. I'm not throwing this app/method under the bus and definitely like where it's going. This is a great idea, most likely the solution to most older phones using anything under ics or jelly bean. But on my galaxy s3 running 4.1.1 stock and rooted on AT&T hasn't had much improvement.

I used seeder and it built my entropy up to the 4096 as it does with everyone else's phone. I'd open an app or game and immediately open seeder to check entropy and it was dropping and rising as a web page would load. For games it would be rebuilding from the drop.

Turned seeder off and let it settle between 150-200. Where it would rise and drop with no activity. Then performed the same test with the same apps and games. Which resulted in entropy dropping and rebuilding quicker than idle for the web page loading up to 4-500 entropy. For the game test it was up to 600+ entropy by the time I reopened seeder and got over 2000 before settling again.

From this all I can gather is that android has been optimized to build it faster than it can be used by an app, having the same results as seeder being active. I know this has been stated in an earlier post, but just wanted to give my take and experience on my particular phone. I've been using seeder on and off since 1.1 release.

I'm not as knowledgeable as probably 90% of you and have no idea about any of this other than what I've read and tested. With that being said, thanks dev and everyone who supports this. I'm in the same boat and always enjoy enthusiasm to benefit android as an OS.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mw86:
Thats not at all what i was saying. In the post I quoted from they had write wake up_threshold at 500 something and stock is 128 and even with seeder or Systctrl method write wake up_threshold is recommended stock at 128. Im not that silly sir. Read the thousands of posts in this thread and i already know its the read wake up_threshold set to 1366. I also know it is believed its better when seeder does this without the sysctrl method. Go check the post i quoted.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk

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I was just weary. I couldn't agree more with your response.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk

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Just to understand why would I use this app as an alternative unless i was a user who doesn't know how to adjust systctrl myself. I have a script in my initd that does what this app does and sets more systctrl values than just wake up_threshold...etc. Unless thats who its supposed to be marketed for than, in that case i understand.

GS3 L710 4.2.1 AOSP Kt747 2.1Ghz ROW/Ktoonservative *Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Castillo2.0:
huge difference!

I just installed seeder on my Samsung galaxy note sgh-717 w stock ROM and it immediately made a huge difference. Since the day I have had this phone it has always felt sluggish. Kudos for seeder, I can now enjoy my phone as it should be. Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bippi79:
Thanks OP.

AvatarROM now supports seeder entropy fix. It can be enabled from Settings->Performance->Urandom (Enable/disable Seeder 1.3.1 entropy generator)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ad44891:
Works great using TWRP
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Yep
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pepoluan:
Not sure if that's a good idea for several reasons:

/dev/urandom is actually a "non-blocking pseudo-random" virtual device; in other words, the entropy generated by /dev/urandom is *much* more guessable than the entropy from /dev/random.

rngd's purpose is to -- every now and then (set by the -t parameter) -- pulls a number of bits from /dev/urandom (set by the -s parameter) and feed those bits into /dev/random. Since /dev/random is *still* being repopulated on its own (even slowly), there is still a quite strong 'mixing' of strong-random-numbers (by /dev/random itself) and weak-pseudorandom-numbers (pulled by rngd from /dev/urandom).

So, linking /dev/random to /dev/urandom will render your phone much more 'tappable' ('tap' as in 'wiretap', except we're talking radio waves here, so 'wirelesstap').

.

I'm not really sure about it, but we can be in for a *lot* of trouble if some security-oriented Android Framework component 'balks' if it detects that /dev/random is not really a 'device node' but a symlink. You'll effectively soft-brick your phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jeebspawnshop:
I haven't yet used this, but I'm going to get it installed as soon as I get home from work! :)

I think this app/service would be absolutely perfect if you included a function for it to only execute while screen-on... cuz after all, that's the only time it's really necessary.

But in the end, this is fantastic work. Congratulations.

:good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] STELIOSFAN:
installed v5 via cwm.

how can i check if its running or not via terminal emulator?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nisiomorais:
just code:

su

seeder
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sonnhy:
Thanks! Clear answer! But if i don't care about being 'tappable' can i give it a try? How can i make a symlink of /dev/random to /dev/urandom?

Btw, the soft-brick isn't so dangerous because i can simply flahs the backup over..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] playjun:
nice update Ryuinferno.

thanks..from v4 o v5
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
No luck...I tried

ln -s /dev/urandom /dev/random

Both at runtime and as a init.d script...does not work...:o

Ok guys...I changed the way the zip mounts system...it now uses temporary busybox...should suit more devices now...but if nothing is applied (e.g. you type "su", "seeder" in terminal but error shows), then you have to mount system manually in recovery...Here's the new Seeder_v5.zip, no changes, no need to reflash for the current users...;)

Download: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390248398092763238

If you get a status 0 error, kindly replace the update-binary in the zip with another from any zip that works with your device...:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nainaabd:
I get this after flashing the latest version .

Seeder entropy generator :on

run at boot?:yes

Init d:seeder (exist)

Does this mean its working ?by the way i also have v6 & kick ass in my init d any conflicts or should i remove them ?

Thank you
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] matt_galaxygio:
I've tried your newest version and it still gives me error 0 installation aborted :eek:

Then i decided to open the updater-script and do it by myself... :p

Rebooted and typed su seeder and all is working :victory:

Scrolling and launching apps is definitely faster and smoother! Good job :D

Tested on CM10.1 nightly (samsung galaxy gio)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Hmm...updater-scripts won't give you status 0...it is the update-binary that causes it...so far I can't find any "universal" update-binary that fits all devices...:o

Try choosing option 3 in the menu...if it shows "entropy avali...", then it is working...:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TheLastSidekick:
What if you bake this into a ROM, do you still need to use Terminal to activate it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
The menu in terminal is only for checking or switching it off...the init.d script will run it on boot automatically...:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ankur_shah88:
Thanks for v5, I replaced the binary and now able to flash seeder. Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ad44891:
Superb work:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Koenhen:
It really works :)

Most of time no lag when I open messages.

Sometimes still a short time to load. (reason?)

Definitely faster than before.

Thanks :thumbup:

send from HTC Sensation XE on ViperS 1.5.2 ROM 32gb class10 using Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] derride8:
I'm confused, I want to try this, but what do I do. Do I flash the 2 zip in the op, and/or the apk?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] elvisypi:
First that's what I thought. After trying it again I see no difference. Maybe it's a placebo effect. Try switching it on and off and you'll notice no difference at all.

Sorry, to disappoint. I even run some benchmarks and the results were better with it switched off.

The only way to really test it is to turn on than off with terminal
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ars0n:
code name rom 3.8.0 4.1.2

seeder 1.28 version - noticeable faster loading of chrome, msg, email, apps...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] beyeond:
So the best version to use isn't the current one? I'm on a galaxy siii and just trying to figure out which one would be the best to try.

Odexed Blue Holy Grail v2.2 LJ7

By Team VeNuM and strongsteve

Blue icons and walls: http://db.tt/9y5M6Lk6
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jas0nsg:
No harm in trying both (1.2.8 / 1.3.1) out, and see which version get the best from your phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] RyomaEchizen:
Where is the 1.4.0 apk?

Enviado desde mi ST25a usando Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Hey guys,

New build, 1.4.0.

I've fully extracted all of the process control code from the main thread. I've been testing this build all night on a few different devices, and I (think) it's solid. Have at it! :fingers-crossed:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] o0BlacknesS0o:
Is something wrong with 1.4.0?... I've already downloaded and installed but it's since been pulled from op...

GalaxyMOD spilled Ink on my MultiWindows
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Sorry guys! Attached!

I forgot to re-export the signed build; it had a bug that was fixed only in the unsigned version.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomurbanowicz:
Would You explain me, when app is turn ON? Default "Enable RNG seeding service" is turn OFF (the small green light is OFF). Turn ON servis does mean small green light (on button) ON or OFF?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
When the green light is on, the service is on. When it's off, the service is off. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rmittal:
Thanks,

Can we have a floating window or notification for real time monitoring of entropy.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] yshonline:
HELP!

New nere...will i have to flash rngd_suspend-on-sleep_v2.zip before installing 1.4.0 apk or just the apk...???
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jetsilver2002:
Just apk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ammanna:
what are rngd-tools_android_suspend-on-sleep_v2.patch and rngd_suspend-on-sleep_v2.zip??

how to use them? i've already install seeder.apk on my galaxy s3

thanks :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] faekplastik3s:
OP, just put a warning on the first post in BIG RED BOLD LETTERS explaining that you only need to use one (apk) or the other (zip), already.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] reilus:
Or people could just READ THE PATCH NOTES. This guy is working his ass off to give us a great app; he's not charging XDA members for the app. Perhaps, he expects that some of us actually read because we are grateful for what he's doing for us? The information is there; if noobs don't read it they can ask and someone may answer them. Why create more work for the op?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] faekplastik3s:
Because there's always a couple of posts asking the same thing on pretty much every page of this thread, it isn't any more work to edit the first post since he already does it to begin with when he updates the app, and the constant people asking the same thing over and over again just drown out the actual discussion, issue reporting and result posting that this thread should be all about.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lunatik49:
Thanks a lot for your hard work :victory: :good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pepoluan:
Quick question to @lambgx02 :

Any changes to the rngd binary compared to the original 1st version?

I'm on the verge of zapping my phone, so I have to prep all things with which I'm going to rebuild my phone.

-- Sent from a GT-I8150 running ICS perfectly well. F'U, Sams#!t --
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cbd dvd:
Works perfect!!!

Joder, pues ahora no se me ocurre nada original para poner...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hurtsky:
this new build really give great effect to my wonder :D good job. it is more effective and different feel this version than before version :) give you my big respect :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rlorange:
Yeah 1.4 build is better than 1.2.8 for sure!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] coolpixs4:
Thanks. I'm testing now and just wait to see...

BUT I wonder the battery consumption...does this app consume more power than without app ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Moon83:
1.2.8 still seems quicker to me.

Sent from my HTC_Ruby_4G...Go Canes []_[]
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bugoink2:
Nice! Definitely better than 1.2.8 :thumbup:

Feels smoother!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
I don't know. 1.4 seems better on my device but I notice when you're flipping through apps on other builds you can always open this and see entropy being used. But on 1.4 it's just always at max.

Edit: Well I guess it is being used but filling much faster which is why I think it's snappier for me. Which I kinda like.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kamso:
I don't know the difference between versions but all I know is this app is very very very amazing. I've used v1.1, v1.3.1 and now v1.4.0. Sense became very smooth and apps very fast. Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] anazhd:
smooth switching between apps :> +1 for the new version.

haters gonna hate.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dan0063:
Great

OMG, It really seems to work, a while ago I installed Pitfall on my DHD, but it was so lagy that I was unable to play it, now I ran it after installing Seeder and it's almost perfectly smooth.

Awesome job!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] andrasandhi:
is there any chance of releasing latest-script version?

i better choose init.d and using terminal emu to 'on' it than use apk.

:rolleyes:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AnTerNoZ:
all u need is root explorer, extract the apk and u can copy all from inside ;)

Swyped from my Wifes Galaxy Y
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Step-han:
Here u have a flashble .zip i made. Only flash it in recovery and it works. (with init.d). It is with the files of v1.4.0.

http://www22.zippyshare.com/v/15847830/file.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xdadevnube:
I just used the APK on my Charge and Rezound. All I gotta say is that I'm very impressed. Those two phones in particular were irking me because of the lag.

Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] barflyxxl:
Great!

:cowboy: @Step-han

That´s what i´m looking for! Many Thx for this..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Yep - the latest binary implements power-saving (suspend-on-sleep); just grab it from the first thread. :good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kr@zY_J:
Thanks to the op for this thread
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
I was gonna say my battery life seems much better now. Thanks. Very smooth too. Think you nailed it man.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Androguide.fr:
Alternative APK version for rngd control

Hi guys, with the permission of lambgx02 I made an alternative apk to control the rngd binary.

Features

- SeekBars to control different rngd arguments such as :

Feed Interval

Feed Timeout

Amount of Random Bytes

Fill-Watermark

- SeekBars to control the two sysctl commands pointed-out by zeppelinrox, with a button to calculate an average value in function of your total entropy pool size (although it seems it's pretty much always 4096 on any device). :

Kernel Random Read Threshold

Kernel Random Write Threshold

- Automatic installation of the required binaries if those aren't found on your system

- Always visible ProgressBar to watch entropy_avail in real-time (similar to the ProgressBar in lambgx02's apk).

- RNGD can be set to run on boot (currently using init.d but I'll update it to use a service on BOOT_COMPLETED instead soon).

- Button to reset default values

- Nice Holo UI + Backward-compatible ActionBar/Swipe-able Tabulation (thanks to the ActionBarSherlock library) and backported Switch element (thanks to de.ankri's library)

- Short explaination on each rngd argument/sysctl command controled by the app

This application is compatible with all Android versions from 2.2.x(froyo) onward to 4.2.1(jellybean)

Download

v1.0 : http://d-h.st/nWQ

The apk is also in the attachements of this post, and so will the updates

Screenshots

Hope you'll like it ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
Holy **** man! Thanks! You guys rock!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ximocko:
Calm down and don't quote the whole post man. Lol
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
FAQ added. Suggestions for new questions welcome.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
Think I'm gonna just stick with Seeder for the moment. Not sure if running them together is a good idea and I like Seeder so...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djwuh:
I was kind of wondering the same thing

Sent from ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Definitely don't want to run them both concurrently!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zodiaxe66:
Wow, that genarator is awesome. love the tweak options.

Brilliant..

PS.sorry OP.;)