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[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Native SD ROM's

Hi,

which olther native SD ROM's are advisable to try besides the perfect working PACMan v.1.2.a from Xylo?? Advice very much appreciated.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Total Commander 2.0 final for Android available

If you like Total Commander file manager on your Windows Mobile, you will be pleased to know that Total Commander 2.0 final for Android is now available (Nov 23, 2). The two windows on this app make it easy to unzip and copy files. Version 1 is available from the Play Store but Version 2 can be downloaded from http://www.ghisler.ch/board/viewforum.php?f=22 or directly from this link: http://ghisler.com/tcandroid2.apk. Don't forget to update your plugins to version 2 - for example use LAN (Windows network) Plugin on Android for browsing and copying/moving files to/from your Windows PC.

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Which other native SD ROM's are advisable to try

Great question. There are four HTC HD2 Android developers/porters who you should always check for their ROMs as they are consistently solid and provide great support. You can do this by clicking on their name and then view public profile and Statistics then Find all threads started by:

Xylograph - developed NativeSD

tytung - has over 10,000 thanks

c1cl0n - Nightly ports

Learning Never Ends team - the best HD2 team :D

Look for ROMs that have NativeSD in the name. For more the latest or more experimental ROMs, search these two forums using Advanced Search of Titles for keyword: NativeSD (see attached screenshots)

HD2 Android SD Development

HD2 Android NAND Development

You have a wide choice of ROMs covering

Gingerbread (GB - CM7) e.g. tytung or c1cl0n

Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS - CM9) e.g. tytung or c1cl0n

JellyBean (JB - CM10) e.g. tytung

I would point you to ROMs that have a large number of views e.g. 3,500,000 for NexusHD2-ICS-4.0-CM9

Of course you are not limited to ROMs that have been posted to a thread. c1cl0n has written [REF] Howto port NAND to NativeSD | Step-by-Step. Thanks to one of our friends I have been enjoying ACA NativeSD :D The great thing about NativeSD is that you can easily try out lots of them - you can see that I have over a dozen on my SD Card in order to satisfy my ORD.

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Thanks my very dear friend for your reply. Will investigate/test some of your proposed Android builds tomorrow ;)

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Unfortunately other things came on my way today, so I did not have the time to try out one of your suggested Native SD ROM's. Hope to be able to try it out in the fortcoming days. We had a real hard storm today which lead to damage to my home, which need to be repaired ASAP. Hope I can do this myself!!

EDIT: Yes,I did it myself, almost ready, but at least it will stay dry during rain and/or showers!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Dead already

Hi all.

is this site also dead already?? It's just started, but IMO it seems already to suffer from a premature death, or am I totally wrong?? Hope I am.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] daibko:
I made the switch to NativeSD just last night, but only found this thread an hour ago. I wish I had it last night!!! Would've felt much more secure. I don't think this thread is dead. I do believe the LNE Team has done such an excellent job with simplicity and clarity of information that new users are simply up and running trying new things out. I intend to check this thread regularly as it may likely become THE place to find, bottom line, what really is worthy of HD2 for folks like me who find WP mostly glitz at the expense of versatility. Great job LNE Team. This thread will continue to evolve.
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
Yes, you are wrong :)

If I've seen it right, more then 5k peoples have reed this thread since the first post (16 days ago), isn't it?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my very dear friend,

tried some of your suggested Native SD builds, mainly tytung's ones and still think that Xylo's PACman is the best in fluidity, stability and speed. What's your opinion? Always appreciate yours.

very best regards, Kuzibri

---------- Post added at 10:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:05 PM ----------

I assume that you're right about the readers amount but hardly anybody responded as of yet. As a member of this team, I would like to see more input from those readers, so we as NLE team can react to that and try to make our service even better than it is now :). You all can make this thread better, but to achieve that we need more feedback. Reading alone is not enough, ideas for improvement are better and really appreciated by the NLE team.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] daibko:
Hi, LNE team! I do have a couple questions I haven't been able to find elsewhere:

1. Should I install apps to internal or SD? My gut says to SD, but I'm ignorant of how the ext4 and fat32 partitions communicate so does it really make a difference?

2. Also, did I read a post somewhere that multiple NativeSD ROMs can "share" apps and save memory somehow? How does this work, please?

3. (a little off topic) I was hoping going native might somehow improve my reception on Android closer to that under WM, but nah. Any quick reference to a link that explains why Android reception is worse than WM?

4. Stick with PPP always, right? I recall PACman had some other thing about ODEX vs PPP, but I might easily be mixed up on this and don't care to reinstall the ROM to find out.

Thank you kindly for all your help for veteran noobs like me! :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
Ppp is your problem. . Use rmnet.. it is the default for Android...ppp is for people using clk bootloader because unlike magldr.. it does not support rmnet

Reinstall pacman again over your pacman rom. .select rmnet during installation. .you will not lose any apps or data

Ext4 is your internal memory for the native sd. . If you have a good size. 1gb for each rom should be enough.

If you have 2 or more native sd roms.. they share the fat 32 partition. .so folders like wallpaper. .music. .movies. .zedge.. are shared between the roms. ( but you have to install apps in each rom... they share the support folders..)

handwritten from my note 2 (N7100)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my dearest friend,

I see that you have a Samsung Note 2. What are you experiences with that device. Reviews are raving about it, but I always prefer personal experience.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] daibko:
Thank you for the idea. Actually, in my case, though, using rmnet completely wiped out ANY data connection (though phone and wifi work). With PACman I kept PPP and all connections work albeit data drops more frequently than with my previous JB Tostidroid

Why would PPP be better than rmnet if rmnet is for magldr which is, I presume, what I have since my other ROM is [26.08.12][MAGLDR][SD](JellyBeanTostidroid) AOKP - Sourcery ?

Thank you for all replies/ideas.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Versatiliy HD2

Hi all,

another chapter added to the versatility of the HD2:

http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/29/windows-phone-8-htc-hd2

Read also the comments, they are very interesting. Under the responders the HD2 is still their favorite phone ever!!!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Stensfie:
I'm on stock rom 3.14 with hspl 3.03...can i install a native sd rom ?? sorry for the noob question and thanks in advanced
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
yes you can my friend. Read thoroughly page 1 of this thread.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Stensfie:
on more thing, i have to install hspl 2.08 or hspl 3.03 is ok ??

i have read that android is not compatible with 3.03 . is it true?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
(H)SPL 3.03 is fine. I use native SD ROM with Stock ROM 3.14 and SPL 3.03 without any problems.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Stensfie:
Thanks a lot man ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
you're welcome, glad to be of help.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Sense NativeSD

If you want to try a Sense NativeSD ROM take a look at this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [Nov 28 2012] SUNDAWG TBD Rom' NativeSD

HTTP://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2014974

Learning Never Ends team members Wis1152 and Robbie P are credited for their help so, although it is beta in development, it will have good support and be different and interesting. Read the first post and bear in mind that Sense is a larger download that will take more space and time to load. Enjoy!

For JellyBean try > HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android NAND Development > SuperJEllYNowV5.1HD2.Final Jellybean 4.1.2.Port

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2018395

Caution this NativeSD ROM uses the same name as and will overwrite Tytung's Nexus HD2-JellyBean!

You should already be using datagr great app to switch, delete and backup Android NativeSD ROMs. To backup your entire SD card, including both WIN32 and EXT4 partitions look at ny_limited post about W32DiskImager - BACKUP your *entire* SD card

If you try it, let him know here Android Development and Hacking > Android General > [GUIDE] [INFO] All about SD CARDS - which one, why and how (see post #2)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1947560

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my dear friend,

does not work for me. It does not let me choose the device, i.e. F: of G:

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
hi kuzibri, been busy tinkering with my note2 ............

the note2 is a beast..awesome and powerful.....the battery is humongous....if anyone wants to upgrade to a new phone now, it should be the note2...

the hd2 will always be the favourite...i have 3 hd2s in the house. they are still in use by the family....:silly:
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my dear friend,

I know that the Note2 is a beast of a device and if my HD2 would die, it would be a good replacement for it, alas I'm not ready yet to give up my HD2 , even if it dies - just buy a new "used" one!! But nevertheless thanks for the tip!!!!;)

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Tom,

tried this Native JB ROM, but it does not compare/comes near to Xylograph's ROM, so back to PACman!!!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
JellyBelly_HD2_v1.0.1

Kuzibri, here is another JB for you to try in HTC Leo: HD2. HD2 Android. HD2 Android NAND Development [1 DEC 2012][ROM][JB][4.1.2]JellyBelly_HD2_v1.0.1[CM10][NATIVESD][DATA ON EXT][XLOUD]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2021483

It is good to see new devs cooking ROMs for HD2.

Cheers

Tom

PS Thanks Pakure I have taken Note ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Tom,

will try that tomorrow, Many thanks for the link.

vey best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Tom,

tried it but Xylograph's PACman is way, way better, smoother and faster!!!

very best regards, Kuzibti
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Facebook

Hi all,

it;s funny to notice that the Facebook app of the old WinMo 6,5,5 is very much more simple to use and is more intuitive, smoother and much faster than the Facebook app for Android JB!! Strange, but true.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] gazzacbr:
Er, no, not really. I am always surprised at how fast and easy and open and battery friendly win 6.5 is when i go back from android and especially win 7 (which i have atm.

It just worked...

Sent from my HD2 using the power of Jelly Bean
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
That's true: for 100%!!!!

Android is battery hungry as a horse and WinMO is, as you already stated, very battery friendly.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Browser tip

Hi all,

just found this one:http://skyfire.com/en/for-consumers/android/. I surely can recommend you all to watch the demo video. Pretty impressive!!!

It's already on the Marketpace, version V4.01!!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Update on Browser tip

Hi all,

Downloaded Skyfire 4.1 for Android and also bought the video license key, but alas the videos will not work. Everytime you start a my Skyfire approved video, the video seems to start but you only get the sound of the video and no images, i.e. the screen stays black :( Already send emails to the Skyfire support team about this issue). Wondering whether it's the compatibility with the HD2, compatibility with SD Card Android builds or something else.

Keep you posted about this, cause on every other aspect this browser is a miracle with it's FB connection, etc.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
Hi,

do you have tryed an other ROM?

Like:

I've some video/TV apps witch use flashplayer and doesn't work with JB-ROMs... if I want start this app, I only boot into the other ROM... This fast dual boot is one advantage of NativeSD-methode that I really love :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Flash is not supported for JB - although it can be installed and works with some browsers. I recommend that you should try Dolphin browser.

I remember Skyfire from the day they suddenly stopped support of Windows Mobile without warning and I never used them again.

Cheers

Tom

My Note II to you
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my very dear fiend,

You are right: Dolphin is the way to go!!!!

very best regards, kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my dear friend,

do you have a suggestion for a good Flashplayer to use with Dolphin??

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Cheers

Tom

My Note II to you
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
I'm not looking for a GB build, only for a Flashplayer that works with JB, caiuse I like the PACman build of Xylograph very much. It's very fast, stable and smooth!!! :)

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Adobe flash archive

You can download Flash Player from this Adobe site:

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html

Flash Player for Android 4.0 archives

Flash Player 11.1.for Android 4.0 (11.1.115.34)

The version depends on your ROM and browser. Check the ROM thread -search, then ask. If you are using PAC then you will see posts where people have lines on Flash Player. Same on Tytung JB thread as well.

Basically if you want Flash do not use JB. Use ICS.

Cheers

Tom

From my Note II to you
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Tom,

thanks for the link. Besides the fact that I like PACman ROM very much, I also like the challenge to see whether I can get Flash to work on JB :cowboy:

EDIT: making progress, sometimes the video starts and sometimes not. To be continued!!!!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Flashplaye ror JB

Hi all,

although I made progress to get Flashplayer to work with JB, I did not succeed yet to accomplish it. Either I only get the beginning screen of the video and thereafter only the sound or get "flickering" images of the video with images and sound. For the moment I will thus stop my "experiments", cause I have a lot of other things to do!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
Hi WindowsMobil-user (haret),

if someone want to start Tytungs great backuptool directly with one touch-klick and don't want to browse through the recovery and the folders of the SD-Card with the hardware-keys, can try the mini-android I've described here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35571780

Advantage: It directly boots tytungs tool from WinMobile, witch is fully touch enabled...

Cheers

Klaus
[HD2 Android SD Development] Stensfie:
I have a big problem with native-sd rom...when i install the rom everything is ok but after a normal reboot battery drain is too fast

i have on nand hspl 3.03 and official 3.14 rom.....

thanks in advanced for the answers and sorry for my bad english
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

which native ROM did you install? Android is known for it's huge battery drain, but you can diminish that by DL Easy Battery Saver from Market and choose Intelligent mode.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Native SD ROM updates

Four NativeSD ROM updates for you to try

1) GingerBread GB CM7 [Dec 18, 2012] [NIGHTLY] CyanogenMod 7 [Tytung R16] [NativeSD]

2) Ice Cream Sandwich ICS CM9 [Dec 17, 2012] [NIGHTLY] CyanogenMod 9 [tytung HWA R3.6] [SD/NativeSD]

3) ICS MIUI [19 dec 2012][rom][ics]miui 2.11.30[nativesd][data on ext][xloud]

4) JellyBean (JB CM10) [Dec. 9, 2012][ROM][720p] NexusHD2-JellyBean-4.1.2-CM10 V1.3a [NativeSD]

I have installed Tytung V1.3a as well as the c1cl0n ROMs and all three work well with WM6.5 and NativeSD.

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Tom,

how about PACman rom from Xylograph??

cheers, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
PA-HD2 v2.54-2.8

Kuzibri, first the bad news is that Xylograph has said that he won't be getting much more time for android development in the near future, but will try to keep us having new stuff every once in awhile..

The good news is that kovjanos has taken up PACman and released [2012.11.20][ROM] PA-HD2 v2.54-2.8 [DataOnEXT | NativeSD][PARANOID | PAC][ODEX][SWAP]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33699819

If you try it out, let us know how you find it. I had to load a few times to get it past haret but it is worth it. Unfortunately Adobe flash player is the same as on other JB - works intermittently. This is a good PAC ROM

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Skyfire

Finally I got an answer from the Skyfire support team regarding my question that SF does not show videos on my native JB Android ROM. This is the answer:

"Hello Kuzibri,

Skyfire has not extended support to ICS or Jelly Bean OS supported devices and this is likely the root cause of the bug you are seeing.

More to come from Skyfire in 2013!"

Skyfire is IMHO an old fashioned company, which does not follow/reacts to all the new developments!! They even do not support ICS!!!!

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi, I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy and, most of all, Healthy 2013.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] hd2009:
Hi again. :)

I just want to say that you do not need HSPL to run nativesd roms. I only upgraded my phone to the latest official release from htc.

So i guess that you need to remove the hardspl requirement for wm 6.5 users.

I was a bit confused until this guy solved my questions:
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
2013

Hi my dear LNE members and all HD2 Android users,

I wish you all a very Happy and most of all a Healthy 2013.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Happy and Healthy New Year to you kuzibri, LNE team, HD2 users and to all @xda
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Happy new year everyone:thumbup::)Happy flashing:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi all,

no news anymore about new Native SD ROM's????

very besr regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
Hi,

do you have tryed the last version of the GUI-based-recovery "twrp" ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36222329 ) with your phone? My first quick try with haret.exe was successful... if your tests are ok, too, your LNE-team could update the relevant first posts?

If all test are successful, I could update my tool "Multiple Android Starter" ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33174747 ), too. I could integrate a section for installed recovery-versions. What do you think?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
[3 Jan 2013][JB][4.1.2]PA_LEO-ParanoidAndroid 2.56[COMPILED][NATIVESD][ODEX][RAMSWAP]

[3 Jan 2013][JB][4.1.2]PA_LEO-ParanoidAndroid 2.56[COMPILED][NATIVESD][ODEX][RAMSWAP]

"This is a full compile rom of ParanoidAndroid 2.56 to our HD2's using the latest android sources of ParanoidAndroid CM10 JellyBean 4.1.2" by Anurag pandey & wwchang

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36188943

Happy New Year! I will test this at the weekend and update the OP.

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Tom,

eagerly awaiting your experiences with this ROM. At this moment very busy now with the launch/setup of my own website regarding agression against social workers (Ambulance Personal, Firemen and Police) in my country. Surrounders are preventing these people to do their job properly by attacking and threatening them. How is that in your country? If that's a big problem also, I will translate my site into English also.

Happy and Healthy 2013,

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Updated OP (Opening Posts)

Thank you both for your valuable feedback:

Updated post #2 Setup Partition

Updated post #5 Applications

Do let us know when anything else needs updating.

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Is there any update in the Xylograph's PACman ROM???

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] poyensa:
+1 for the new version, with the direct link to Tytung backup program and the twrp recovery. I used yesterday to install MIUI-JB 3.1.11 by THANHVO31 and everything went Ok. Best regards.
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
Hi,

witch revision of twrp do you have used? On my hd2 the rev.9 has no NativeSD-manager... and the rev.7 looks ok...

and what do you mean with "direct link to Tytung backup"?

Cheers

Klaus
[HD2 Android SD Development] poyensa:
I am using twrp rec8, and I refer to the option to directly start tytung backup app bypassing the ext4recovery, as you did with the new initrd.

sent from my time-machine-HD2 Xylo's PACman-JB nativeSD rom
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
Hi,

I've updated the tool Multiple Android-Starter (WinMo 6.5 + NativeSD-Android) - version 5...

see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33174747

Changes in Ver.5:

- Add List of the recovery-versions (4EXTRecovery or twrp)

- New sort-order (NativeSD-ROMs on the top)

P.S.: If you look to the first picture, you can see, that I have a third recovery (coming soon... I will open a new thread and post here a link) :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my dearest friend,

Tried it out, but still prefer PacMan from Xylopgraph. It's very fast in loading, stable and very reliable. Besides that, Marketplace works without any problems.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] tharche:
Thank you for this useful tool.

Can I ask a function in Android-Starter for myself?

Please add an option to autostart last booted Android in choose-able seconds. So needless to tap to start Android.

Anyway Thanks again.
[HD2 Android SD Development] o82239:
AW: [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users

Hi,

info: For all WinMo- and NativeSD-user... see

Recovery for tytung-backuptool (WinMo 6.5 + NativeSD-Android)

:)

Cheers

Klaus
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
LNE Team

Hi my fellow collegues,

does this team still exists/is active, or has it moved to another site???

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Hi kuzibri, yes still active. Szczepanik has a new phone but is still keeping tabs here. wis1152 is still recogniseably contributing in quite a few HD2 threads. Poyensa has duties elsewhere but still uses HD2 and posts regularly. c1cl0n has been a bit quiet lately, hope all is well. I have been a bit lazy since advent of nativeSD but try to help out where i can in a few threads. I think the guide and support in this thread has worked very well for haret users, so it may seem that the thread is not well used, but I am sure it is.