yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Martinhdk:
Yes. Apk.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lither:
What does these file do? rngd_suspend-on-sleep_v2.zip and rngd-tools_android_suspend-on-sleep_v2.patch
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spupuz:
anyone has got a battery drain higher than usual with seeder?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] roshan2989:
im on version 1.24 can i just install the V1.30..?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Sik-1:
Yes
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] louforgiveno:
you don't need those files, just the apk. Those files are included in the apk so no need to download those files.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Lither:
So I can either flash the .ZIP using CWM or install it as .APK?

Also the more available entropy is better?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bronxitas:
Yes.

Yes.

Sent from my ragelis naudojantis sulietuvintu Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] milski65:
New apks daily. Just use them. The new on overwrites the older apk. Couldn't be easier
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
If anyone is still having issues with autostart / ANRs, can you try 1.3.1-beta?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] beint:
Here's a screen dump from logcat:

View attachment 1633615

I opened the app, and then pressed back. Process has died. Is that normal?

Is seeder still running normally?

Always using the latest Beast 4.2.1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Strange. Which version is that?

In any case, even if the UI process dies, the RNG service will continue in the background.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nickvp:
First, for those who have used it on their Nexus 4, did you notice a difference? I am running official cyanogenmod nightly, and have almost zero lag.

Secondly, does this work on the Nexus 7??
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dwang:
I have a nexus 4 and while i agree the phone has almost zero lag, it still starts getting laggy and slows down after a few days without a reboot.

Using the seeder apk, the phone stays fast consistently.

So in that respect it makes difference. At least for me.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] beint:
It's 1.3.0

Always using the latest Beast 4.2.1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shantam:
It definitely works

***//'?'\\***

---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 PM ----------

After turning on the seeder app

In seeder app

The available entropy level is always 4096

Is it normal

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cmoG530:
This actually works. Running PA rom on G-Nexus.

>-Sent From Something That's From Somewhere-<
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] demolatorul:
1.3.1 definetly keeps the settings on finally

you have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it...?

just press.it!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] poursystem:
Hii . Is it Recommended To use This app along with other boosters like adrenaline engine , Or just use this app only ?

& thx !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cocchiararo:
Thats what it should do :P

It made no difference for me, except it drained more battery (old days of the app tho)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Promethyl:
Should I also write an app to modify the entropy values in the kernel? Might be a good seeder clone, but would work for more users. Any interest?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cocchiararo:
Why would it work for more users? (Honest question)

Would you be changing the kernel value like in the sysctl method? If so, that is slower, at least on an optimus 3d running 2.2.x

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Pantherx12:
Bought the app on the play store and take advantage of auto update.

Thanks make such a difference on my desire z.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Chairmansaab:
I had 1.2.9 before i installed 1.3.1.

My phone is blazing fast now

There is zero 0 delay between switching apps all thanks to wonderful author of this app :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
@lambgx02

You may want to wait until XDA'rs test and report issues before pushing the new versions to Google Play Store.

I wouldn't recommend pushing more than one update per any 24 hour period to Play Store unless a critical issue arises, this prevents paid users from feeling like test subjects and also allows bug reports to come from this thread instead of negative comments and 1 star reviews in the market.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Oh, I know.. you're absolutely right. I just kept getting emails from users and got sucked into pushing updates that seemed to fix the issue(s), only to discover new problems.

I think 1.3.1 is somewhat stable now, so I'll definitely wait a few days after each XDA release. I'll just start sending out beta .APKs to individual users as they report problems.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phonetool:
Meh, I am bouncing between zeppelinrox kick ass kernelizer script (with edits to increase entropy) and the latest apk from this thread on 4 different device and OS combinations.

I'm sure an app is welcome for those who don't know how to script or edit, but other not-difficult methods already exist.

Your entropy available app has been very helpful to me in watching for changes and effects.

I am not a good judge of smoothness comparisons, though.

I'm very curious how this will play out for Android in the weeks and months ahead.

-CM7 on DInc2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Stromma:
I've used all versions and they've all worked fine until now on my GT-I9300. Now I'm on 1.3.1 and every time I reboot RNGD are disabled and I have to enable it myself. Otherwise it works fine.

Yes, "start automatically on boot" are enabled ;)

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Promethyl:
I wasn't able to get seeder to work for me. It failed to get root, and failed to raise the entropy available.

I would probably try to change the kernel value using sysctl.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
If you have a shell available, can you reboot, wait a minute or two, and try:

su

ps | grep rngd

logcat | grep -i seeder

.. and paste the results?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] nickvp:
Does it work on a Nexus 7?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ema0185:
The seeder isn't working properly for me.

Requesting root, activating it and setting on boot works but:

-If i close the app pressing Back or through the application switcher the seeder stops to work.

-Even if i left the app open (not closing it look up) android terminates it for me after few time (30mins ?)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] adiyoyo:
On my Desire hd always says i have root failed on 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 version, but when i click ok i can turn on RNGD and entropy is change to max, and phone is faster. after reboot still same and it is OFF, only notification on bar. But program work :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
A few people have reported this issue. I change one thing, it fixes it for some.. breaks for others. So frustrating!

I'm working on adding a debugging feature that will dump some information into a text file you can email to me so I can figure out exactly what's happening. Stay tuned. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Gillion:
Welcome to android fragmentation 101.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shadyr25:
I still don't understand, my meter jumps up and down.. is it supposed to do that? The highest I've seen it go was upto 3000 but only for a second, then 169 then 2000 then 156 then 1700 and so on.... I have nothing special running in the background, cleared memory, what now?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
That suggests the RNG daemon isn't running.

a) what versin of Seeder are you running

b) can you execute:

ps | grep rngd

.. in a shell?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jonah1234:
I lost 1% battery in 4 hours!

Sent from my HTC Droid DNA
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shadyr25:
It must be running because my phone is now refusing to go have a deep sleep and when I switch it off it never goes above 200, latest one that was there v 1.3.1. I will try and execute the command and see what happens.

Just tried it and it gives me

u0_a187@android:/ $ su

u0_a187@android:/ # ps | grep rngd

root 22803 1 41824 96 ffffffff 00039b84 S /data/data/com.lcis.seeder/rngd

u0_a187@android:/ # ps | grep rngd

root 22803 1 41824 96 ffffffff 00039b84 S /data/data/com.lcis.seeder/rngd

u0_a187@android:/ #

Any ideas?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eden1988:
It's definitely working, not a placebo and now I can play games and switch app very fast with minimum lag, thanks OP :D

I second this, I've had 2 random reboots now, once is when I turn my screen on and it just went black, no soft reboot or anything. Second time is when I listen to music and the music stutters for a while before going completely black, both need battery pull to boot the phone up again.

Any idea or suggestion regarding this problem?

I'm on Seeder 1.29, I'll update to the latest version and see if the problem persist :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] X1iGGVV:
Wifes Huawei U8500 with 2.3.7 was near to finish in trash! 10x, for saving min. 100€ and not need a new phone! For the first time I can tell that this phone is useble :D

Skickat från min GT-P7500 via Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Stromma:
I rebooted three times now and it worked every time. Don't know why it didn't work the first time, but as long as it works I'm happy :)

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jbezerra:
This is awesome!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bnasty06:
I must say 1.3.0 has been working great, not sure if I want 2 upgrade yet :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Ok - it's definitely working, though it might not be able to keep up with some other process on your device that's reading a lot of random data. I suspect it's that process keeping your phone from deep sleep, since new rngd builds actually suspend when the device is asleep.

Could you try shutting down the RNG service and closing Seeder? See if your phone resume deep sleep (then try with it on again).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
The RNG service should definitely not be causing that! Could you try turning it off for a day to see if you get any spontaneous reboots?

I wonder if there's a leak on some kernels on the /sys/power/wait_for_fb* devices. Can you tell me which device & kernel you're using?

If your reboots do stop, I can send you a version without the powersaving rngd to try.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] the.emilio:
Is an update needed for the flashable zip or are these changes mostly for the apk version? I am currently running v7 of the zip and all is working fine. Just curious since I am using this in a ROM (credits and link back to here are in my OP of course) and not sure if I should post an update of my ROM or wait for a newer version of the zip version. Thanks for the great work! :good:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] olivares.leody:
Where can I download v7?

Sent from my Hyper BlueICS iPocket

Thanks for pressing the button
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] the.emilio:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36479461&postcount=1924
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eden1988:
I'm using international SGS3 and latest perseus kernel v31.2

I've read through Perseus kernel thread and found out some users have had the same issues of random reboots, perhaps it might be the kernel that is causing the reboots.

I'll keep a lookout on both threads and will update sometime later, thanks for the fast response!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lambgx02:
Hmm.. I haven't been following the CWMR / init.d version development, but check to see if the rngd binary matches the one in my first post (rngd_suspend-on-sleep_v2.zip right now). It implements the most recent power saving mode.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] EViollet:
If you're using Perseus, you don't need this tool. Andreilux patched his kernel so that this is unnecessary.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9300 avec Tapatalk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mayurcools:
I m using latest apk my entropy was 250 n more and increased to 4096 most of the times when i turn on rngd service. Thats awesome.

But i cannot find any lag improvements.

I m using xperia x8 with jelly bean rom
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fivefour:
For those of you having su or startup issues post if your using supersu or superuser... it will likely shine a light on the issue.

*edit*

correcting auto-correct adding a word
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] josewds:
Seeder, since 1.2 and up:

No startup issues.

No battery drains.

SuperSU with updated version.

Device: LG Optimus GT540 (3 years old entry level)

ROM: 2.3.7 based on AOSP
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] beint:
This is my result:

View attachment 1635189

Looks normal?

Always using the latest Beast 4.2.1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] davelyh:
are you sure ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sembre:
On gingerbread work and my android faster andsmooth
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Martinhdk:
Sounds interesting, can you come up with more details?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] arjiegodz:
how to run this app? i just open this app and run it in reboot and enable it.. is that all? sorry for noob question
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jr_718:
Yes.. Install check the check box and click in the first on/off box.. Lol

View attachment 1635349
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] EViollet:
Yes.

It's written in his OP.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] arjiegodz:
thanks bro...

i hope in the next update the background will be black.. even though its not really impt. but i kust wanted to be black. i hope this will be approved. :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hollow_spam:
I am testin 1.3.1 version. Looks like it is working only if enable app and press HOME button. If I press BACK button then enthropy accu seems does not oncrease so fast. Also if my phone is switched off for a while (sleep mode) then enthropy accu seems to be not managed by app, I have to disable and enable it again.

It looks like the seeder is closed by android somehow if I press BACK button or if the phone is in sleep mode. Good work anyway! Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rob151515:
Yeah I second that. I've been watching it all day and its good for the most part but every now and then I'll open the seeder app, it'll get root permissions and the entropy level will 'catch up' again.

It's almost like occasionally it's being shutdown and I have to reopen it to get it started again...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shadyr25:
I have switched it off, uninstalled it just for the night. Woke up and saw that it was still not going to deep sleep. Must be something on my side although I can't recall doing or installing anything lately. Will keep you updated.

Deep sleep is now working after reboot, when I enable seeder it suddenly decides not to go deep sleep... weird, didn't have that problem with other builds. Anyway, will be waiting eagerly for the next seeder :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] saljar:
In my SGS i9000 with CM10 (JB 4.1.2) it speeded up the phone, specially when using web browsers or sms app.

Antutu and Quadrant reported gains between 300 and 400.

That's my experience with seeder 1.1. I'm going to update to latest version (1.3.1) now.

Regards.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] PeQuEsan:
Yesterday I ran 1.2.4 all day, and I can confirm some sort of battery drain... Then I upgraded to 1.3.0... and it seems to have gone... :) I stick with this, definitely.

And again I must report that it does something in the system... Maps dragging has been a little bit laggy for me, always... till I met Seeder... :P

Thanks again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Stromma:
Seems like I've got the same problem.

When i launch seeder it's enabled but the entropy meter shows a value between 500 and 1000. Then it climbs immediately to 4096. If I then close it with the back button it drops to between 1000 and 2000 on relaunch and climbes immediately, but if I use the home button it stays at 4096 when it's relaunched.

Edit:

I get the same result if I launch seeder, use homebutton to "close", open another app and close that one with the back button, or if I kill multitasked programs through the task manager.

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ZN6:
The seeder generator will loop back to off after reboot. I have try both method, script and app.

Have to manually to turn on the seeder generator. Currently I'm using script method.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ptiloubar:
Hi,

Just fell over this application today and I've been using it for a few hours on my rooted SGS3 (GT-I9300) with stock kernel and stock JB 4.1.2.

Some actions look quicker to me (opening apps, multitask screen). However, I noticed a nice battery drain (which may, or may not be caused by my sheer enthusiasm to try this app), but more appalling my device feels like it's severely heating ! I've been trying to push a bit the system for 15-30min (nothing too bad : multitasking through 3 news apps, downloading 2 files and uploading them on my DropBox, using 3G network, this is actually pushing the system considering I'm at work (_-_)), and my device felt as hot as if I had spent the whole time playing Eternity Warriors 2 (which is by the way the only game I've stopped playing -and uninstalled- because of a heating device). I fear it puts too hard a strain on my device.

Has anyone experienced the same problem ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] demolatorul:
Same behavior here, 1.3.1

you have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it...?

just press.it!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ph0z3:
Initially ran 1.0-alpha, and it ran pretty well, had small issues of being killed off while playing any HD games type games...

...went to upgrade and

:

1.3.1 failed to acquire root

1.3.0 failed to acquire root

1.2.9 failed to acquire root

...even tho the app said it was unable to acquire root access, i opened the superSU app & it said it had root, and i would get a toast-notification that it had root... but it didnt seem like it was working! :(

so i loaded 1.2.8 finally and everything works like a charm! wth?

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SAMSUNG INFUSE

Mind of Mac ROM - 2.3.6

setCPU + JuiceDefender Ultimate

SuperSU
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] racuna:
AMAZING!!!!!

how could i live without this?... really amazing and is not a placebo, at least in my Galaxy Ace. Yesterday took like 5 seconds for search a contact and 3 secs for loading the contact info. Now in 3 secs I can search, found, open contact info and call a contact.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tuscolavol:
Superuser

Sent from my EVO
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
Yeah same here on my gs2. I'm gonna uninstall and see what happens. Btw are you overclocking with tegrak?

Edit: My device is fast enough anyway on stock Samsung jelly bean kernel overclocked to 1.352ghz with tegrak. Overheating issue resolved simply by just shutting it off.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ptiloubar:
Thanks t4d73

I was in the process of trying it. I cut off wifi, mobile networks, GPS and Bluetooth, just to make sure none of my network connections did interfere with this heating feeling. Simply switching rapidly the pages in the Parameters menu (it has got no practical use, but it is damn simple to do !) makes the phone hotter (not burning-hot, but not what you would expect from navigating in a standard menu, even if it's on a rocket engine ;) ).

I wanted to stop the service and have a look at it, but I will do it later. Too lazy now. Glad someone else noticed it too.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
Are you overclocking at all with tegrak? I'm stock as well but that combined with this app could cause heat issues too maybe.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ptiloubar:
No overclocking at all on my side. I am afraid of overclocking :) Risks of burning down your device are too high when you do not know what you are doing. And I must confess that I belong to this category :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
I actually do too. Og evo lol! But the maker of tegrak developed a good safe way to do it on stock Samsung devices. But yeah I still don't recommend it. Me along with many others still don't get this whole entropy thing other than when it's on its really high and when off it's really low. But like others have also said that with fast powerful devices like ours the difference is not so easily noticeable.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ptiloubar:
It is so hard to compare the responsiveness with and without seeder ! I will try to write down a little sequence of actions and try to execute it as fast as possible a few times to determine if there is a difference. But even such an experience could fail miserably as the initial and current conditions are fluctuating a lot.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
I hear you. Like I said our devices are pretty powerful already. And I've got so much junk running on my phone that's pretty hard to pinpoint one thing. But when seeder is turned off it hangs around 200 or 300 and when it's on its solid around 4096. It only dips down a little bit when I run an app and then goes right back up So I'm sure this is exactly what it's supposed to do and the op would probably agree.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ptiloubar:
Your remark just made me check something : after deactivating Seeder, I checked the value and it was still hoping between 3000 and 3500. You definitely have to reboot your device (at least I have on mine) for the values to go to 200-300 (or maybe open a few entropy-wasting apps). I rebooted, and I am just watching the entropy grow on Seeder (it is off). Entropy reached its maximum value by itself about 1min-2min after I started to monitor it. From my point of view, Seeder just refills entropy faster than the system does. Probably at the cost of CPU resource (and therefore, of battery), but at least you will not fall short of entropy with Seeder on. I think I will just activate Seeder at home or at work, where my battery life does not really matter, as long as power is not cut off.

Edit : Is there really a need to refill entropy at the same high rate when it is between 0 and 1000 than between 3000 and 4000 ? I am just asking the question. For the moment, I just fail to understand how it works anyway.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Stromma:
1.2.8 works great for me as well :)

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