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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] XstitchCowgirl:
Someone said on another forum that they have AT&T and got the free Dropbox promotion.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] spyderman09:
Once rooted, it may just be a build.prop edit, really.. The free space stays afterwards anyway.

I had a Tmo Note 2 for a week, canceled the service and returned the phone due to service issues, and still have the space.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] cdmoore74:
I don't load up that many Apps for 16gigs to be a concern. The only time I run into problems is when I want to load up a 4gig plus movie on my Nexus 7. With the Note 2 sd card slot the majority of people will not have this issue.

Plus I don't see a $400 Note 2 32gig being a big seller on Verizon. $300 is the max I would pay right now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] flaring afro:
I'm already so tempted to take out a Sprint Note 2 without the intention of keeping it or the service - don't give me more reasons to do it. lol

I'm sure they'll bring one out eventually and lower the price of the current Note 2 when they do. My guess is it will be $250/$300 and happen around February, but it's just a guess.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
It isn't an Apple product, lol. I would expect the 16gb only to be $50 more. 349.99 which imo, is still a bit much, though. I think the Note2 should've been priced at 249.99 and 300 for the 32gb.

I wouldn't count on that for a few reasons:

1.) as advertised the msd slot will make it so many people do not have this issue.

2.) i don't know why you think that'll happen around feb. the s3 hasn't had a price drop yet either and that phone has been out approx. 3-4 months. so in feb the note 2 will have been out 3-4 months, so i don't know why they would slash the price just so they can give us a phone with more memory for the same price.

3.) they are already talking about the S4 in March 2013, so if the phone releases in <1 year, there will be no point for upgrading the memory to 32gb on the N2 since anyone looking to upgrade probably will just wait for the N3.

4.) as said, depends on the #'s of N2's they sell. i don't think this phone will sell extremely well compared to iP5/S3, so i don't see why they would even care about releasing the 32/64 variants since it won't bring in that much extra revenue.

5.) so far, isn't jp and kr the only countries that have different variants in terms of memory? last time i was on the international n2 board, it seems like almost people only had the 16gb version.

6.) vzw sucks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] flaring afro:
1.) The GS3 has a slot and they still have the options. Onboard ROM is faster and also some people would want the extra storage for music.

2.) I wouldn't be surprised if they lowered it around then due to competitor's phones - and to entice people to buy it that haven't. Just like they are adding color options to the S3. The success of this phone will definitely lead to other manufacturers getting in on the 5.5" scene.

3.) Most people aren't going to wait 6 months or so to upgrade.

4.) They already sold over 3 million before AT&T (and Verizon) got it. This phone is selling more than they expected, I'd bet.

5.) Since they already have the added memory in the GS3, putting it in the Note 2 won't cost much - it's not like they'll have to use anything new.

It shouldn't surprise anyone if a 32GB eventually comes out. I wouldn't wait on it or anything but it's definitely quite possible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kimdoocheol:
1.) gs3 is a lot more marketable. even though we all love n2, most likely will not appeal to the masses. it is like if they made an iP5 that is 5.5", i wouldn't expect it to outsell the iP5.

2.) i would. vzw touts superior coverage + better LTE speeds. they will just say this comes with the territory.

3.) 6 months? who knows when the N3 will be announced. if all goes according to the rumor mill about S4 we could expect that as early as march 2012. if they announced the n3 on the same timeline as the s4 (which obviously i doubt) then i bet many people will wait out for the n3. of course people who don't know may snatch up the note, but i'd bet those people are just up for upgrade and i'm placing my money on more people having upgrades available to them during late q3/early q4 opposed to early q1 where we see a lot less phones being released. obv. companies want to cash in during the holiday season.

4.) still not over >30 mil like the s3. the #'s are good for a phone this size, but then again maybe some people will switch after having a 5.5" phone on next upgrade since there are not many phones available on this size. i think the sweet spot now seems to be around 5"... the n2 is huge in comparison to most phones, even the s3.

5.) like you said, 10 mil sold and the only place you can really pick up a bigger variant is in kr/jp. samsung has advertised it in various nations in various sizes, but there is little to no reason why they advertise it coming in those sizes/not having any stock available. there was a guy who got torn apart in another part of this forum for creating a petition for samsung to release the bigger sized variants. i would say with the expandable memory most people will not care about this. i don't think many people are going to wait to upgrade 3-4 months for a bigger sized variant/it might not be worth it to release it later in terms of sales. it isn't like i said an ip5 or s3 which sell like hotcakes.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/11/19/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-and-note-2-gain-three-new-colours

not confirmed. it doesn't say us, either. positive step in the right direction though, even though i don't think any carrier in the usa offers the 6 variant colors of the s3

from vzw boards from phandroid
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dominick_7:
Apparently Jellybean has dropped support for being able to install apps to the SD Card, so that is even more reason to have larger internal storage capacity. Besides this if it could do 64GBs internal and have another 64GBs microsd card, that would allow for not only more apps but more music and movies. At work there is no WIFI so I'd have to listen to Pandora as long as there's a good signal.. but if not I want to be able to listen to my music collection and if all of it along with movies could fit, that would be sweet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RaptorMD:
The lack of SD card support (as a native feature) is a real concern of mine in that I would prefer to have 32GB minimum, but the carriers likely won't carry it due to a higher cost and lower sales. Inventory control and risk is always a concern.

There are mods (once rooted) here that does allow for SD card support but again I have the GN 10.1 tablet so I plan to put the bigger games on that and not worry about them on my phone. But that is my solution.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nutpn:
verizon opted out of 50 gb dropbox deal

So unless you already have a dropbox package,, then with verizon we wont get a dropbox package on the note 2, according to the email that the dropbox rep sent me.

But to the device and micro sd card subject, I think its crazy that these companies dont put the various gb out to start with, because like the iphone some folks may want or only can afford a 8 gb, 16gb or 32gb, but oh well, life goes on-even at the frontlines.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] beefchopper:
I'm not sure what you mean here. If you already do have Dropbox and get the Verizon Note 2 will you get the extra 50 gigs?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] SFBPro:
AT&T and Verizon choose not to opt-in to the 50GB promotion. I would link you the dropbox press release, but my University blocks dropbox.com...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nutpn:
dropbox

Sorry for the confusion

What I was saying is I talked with two different reps because I didnt believe the first one, anyway.

The reps said that verizon opted out of the dropbox Promotion, so anyone who gets a verizon note2 will not get the 2 years 50 gb promotion according to them.

I will wait and see myself.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidstyle:
Im sure if beanstown gets a device he will incorporate the 50gb dropbox mod into his rom like was done on the S3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] vesuviana:
Samsung Note II - 32 GB / 64 GB internal memory?

Seems even 4 months after the launch, still only 16 GB internal memory available? There have been initiatives on the net to convince Samsung to distribute higher internal capacity, but useless - also no move on the European market. Anyone seen a model out there with at least 32 GB? Probably better to wait for the concurrence to copy and buy another brand.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nicko42004200:
I flashed beans rom and got the 50gb d.b. then I used for a little. Flashed back to cleanrom ace and still habe 50.5 gb d.b. storage.

sent from my sch-l605 clean rom, o.c., wireless charging modded, 64 ulta sd, just about do anything phone!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Flash Beans 7 with sd card flip flop and enjoy up to 64gb!! Works flawlessly on my 32gb class 10.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bower1994:
Hi guys

My phone es bricked :(

Something was bad flasing a hboot image for repartition and now my phone only starts en fastboot mode.

If i type fastboot reboot from my computer it only starts in fastboot again so i can´t go to adb mode to restart in recovery.

I think that really there is sometinhg that isn't because i did something bad. i guess that a file is missed. I'm not saying that my phone boot and remains in the X of the beginning, my phone automatically starts in fastboot!?!?! :confused:

Please if someone can help me with this problem, probably i need to flash some file by fastboot to let my phone start normally.

Ohhh i just fogetting that my phone has the rigid flex so punished and it's in bad shape so i can't use any buttom except the trackball, there is the problem because i can´t get into recovery from fastboot. (yes, it's very annoying but i ordered a new piece 2 days ago)

Thanks for your help!!

PD: Sorry for the mistakes but really i don´t have a good level of english. I hope that you can understand me
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bower1994:
Finally a fix it!!

Really i don´t know why but my phone was without the properly boot.img so it can´t boot normally...

I did from cmd in fastboot mode: fastboot flash boot boot.img (the file should be in platform-tools)

When it finish i reboot and my phone starts in the X typical, so i was able to get in adb mode and in cmd again i type: adb reboot recovery

And my phone starts in recovery =)

Thanks... problem fixed, sorry again for the mistakes...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WiW:
Dev phones are practically unbrickable. If you have fastboot, then you're still good. Unless your nand memory is physically f'ed, you're still good.

I'd get a passimg file on hand... Just in case. That'll solve any problem you've get with boot, recovery, etc.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahulsvish:
exactly i have same prblm can u tell me the procedure to fix it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
EDIT: According to garyd9, this is an Exynos issue and cannot be fixed. I believe him that this is an Exynos issue because it supports what I've seen, and he's a smart guy. I'm still holding out hope that there is some possible resolution in the future. Why else are we here if not to find ways to make our phones better, right? However, because of the nature of this issue, it's not going to be resolved by app settings, disabling apps, etc. If you don't see the lag yourself, it's because your phone isn't in deep sleep when you try to wake it.

Original Post:

Alright guys, some of you have probably noticed that this phone suffers from the wake lag that others (all Samsung?) have also suffered from.

Symptom: When you press the power or home button it takes 1-2 seconds before the screen turns on.

This DOES NOT happen when the phone is plugged in, likely because the problem is a delay getting the phone out of deep sleep. Deep sleep does not occur while the phone is plugged in.

Culprit: Anybody know? My wife's AT&T GS2 has this same problem and has with every ROM/Kernel combo I've tried (AOSP, AOKP). My Skyrocket has the issue on some of the more recent versions of Sky Jelly Bean, which I believe Sean said was a Kernel problem.

Fixes that don't work: This morning I tried the most popular suggestions:

Turn off Lock Screen Popup note

Lock Screen Ripple Effect

S-Voice home key

S-Voice Auto-start speaker

S-Voice wake up command

NONE OF THESE WORK!

So, let's band together and solve this thing. Do some tests and find something that works. Preferably, a solution that takes as little modding as possible.

Is this something that can only be solved by a customer kernel? If so, let's see if a dev is up to the task!

EDIT TO ADD: This seems to be an issue on all variations of this device. I'm searching their forums for an answer, but don't see one yet. I decided to post this here to get more eyeballs on the problem

More info from Entropy512:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sling:
I'm not feeling major sleep lag on att , Sprints on the other hand was pretty bad with 2-3 sec delay
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] u921333:
Simple soft locker from market... doesnt seem to effect battery. Try it out works great
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
The app creates a partial wakelock, so it will affect battery. A wakelock will keep the phone from going into deep sleep, which is what extends Android phone battery life. With such a large battery, it won't be as noticeable on this phone, but it still has substantial negative effects.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
I'm getting about 2 second lag on both mine and my wife's AT&T N2s. Mine is rooted, hers is not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] RMXO:
I have everything that you have listed except Turn off screen popup mode & I have no lag at all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] garyd9:
It's a side effect of the exynos SOC. You can't "fix" it. It just takes about 800ms to wake from deep sleep.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] cdshepherd:
800ms???? No way can I wait that long:p lol jk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
Bummer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] u921333:
I have used it on my galaxy s2 and my international galaxy s3 without seeing any negative battery issues. Now granted it has to have some effect but even with the not so great life on s2 wasnt noticeable. Try it out and see if it works for you. I was skeptical at first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] daddymatt:
It is in fact S-Voice.. completely remove it from the Note and you will remove the lag.. this has been an issue with virtually every device with S-Voice... I bet there will be a bebloated ROM come along in the next day or 2 and itll fix it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] u921333:
I dont but I do know my galaxy s3 had it even when I was on aokp.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
Like the poster above this says, my wife's Galaxy S2 has the lag on AOKP and AOSP based roms that do not have S-Voice. As much as I don't want to believe it, Gary is likely right that it's an exynos issue. I was just hoping that it could be solved through a kernel.

Tested it for ****s and giggles, definitely not S-Voice. I disabled it and restarted phone. Let it settle about a minute from start up, opened BetterBatteryStats to CPU state screen and looked at the "deep sleep" state. Turned screen off for a few seconds, lagged, checked deep sleep state to make sure it had increased (ensuring it was recovering from deep sleep). This is the simple method to test any of these supposed fixes that people say will solve the laggy wake.

Anybody that says their phone doesn't lag when they wake up the screen is likely because they're looking at it while they're charging it, they're playing music, they have an active notification, or they're turning it off and back on really quick. All of these prevent the phone from deep sleeping. Deep sleep is what causes the issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] jbeef86:
I had lag on my Note I whenever it would deep sleep on any Rom. This only happened when I had Wi-Fi off when sleeping. When I turned Wi-Fi on all the time lag was gone. Not a clean battery friendly fix but the lag was driving me crazier than charging the battery a little sooner.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] daillcyruz:
I have the att version and I was just wondering...the same thing...I am willing..to try anything...I mean it sucks just waiting a little bit. I was just waiting for a new rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] truth77:
I would have to say this is true. I've seen people do this in videos and it seems to work. They say its the wake looking and checking to see if you held the button or double clicked it that will solves this problem. Are there any other settings that control the home button settings like how you show recent apps or s-voice?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Mj23foreva:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHMIxBUclh0&feature=plcp

[youtube]UHMIxBUclh0[/youtube]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
The only thing disabling S-Voice does is make your Home key work faster once the phone is already on because it's not waiting to see if you're double tapping it. S-Voice has no impact on the wake issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
That's the first thing I watched this morning when investigating this issue. If you notice, his "fix" doesn't seem to work that well for him. Try it yourself, it won't work. That's why I put it in the OP that these don't work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] santiagodraco:
No lag here and the phone's been in use/running for 24 hours now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] dc4:
I don't have any lag from pressing the power or home button, lock screen pops up right away. My s-voice is disabled and I use widget locker for my lock screen. I have not seen widget locker appear on better battery stats causing any wake locks and my phone deep sleeps fine. The only time I have experienced a lag was when I set it to power save mode when screen off in system tuner. Even with my phone using the flip case and the smart screen off app, there is only minor (maybe .5 secs) delay when I flip the cover over til when my phone turns on by itself using the sensors and no hardware buttons, after being in deep sleep.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] garyd9:
This is amazing.

It's not from SVoice, its not from any app, its not from android, its not from pink elephants, and not from dirty underwear. It's a side effect of the processor. It's existed on every single exynos processor and the best kernel developers haven't managed to work around it (and we have tried.)

You might lesson the impact, but it's still there. You CAN'T make it go away unless you prevent the processor from going into deep sleep.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] u921333:
^^^^^^

Yep thats why I use soft locker lol battery life still is amazing :) I think there may be some other ones but that one I know works.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
Great, I changed my dirty underwear for nothing.

Thanks for the clarification, I added your info to the top of the OP. Can't blame me for being hopeful that a dev had or will crack this thing at some point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] garyd9:
Lies! All Lies!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Entropy512:
To be more detailed: It seems to be specific to how Samsung wires up the modem interfaces of Exynos devices. On Exynos4 devices, they're always hung off of HSIC (a variant of USB) buses. Since HSIC is based on USB, it has the same slow suspend/resume of USB. Almost all Exynos3 devices hung the modem off of a serial port if I recall correctly, and these devices could suspend/resume much faster. If you look at a resume sequence, there are huge time gaps, and after the first 200-300 msec, almost all resume activity is modem stuff.

The only solution, unless someone figures out a way to make the HSIC resume faster (I'm not messing with it, I have enough trouble getting it not to drop the bus randomly!!!!!!!), is to inhibit deep sleep with a wakelock - but this will be bad for battery life.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] warfanax:
Say I need to open browser quickly. Sometimes its so bad that when I press home button it shows the homescreen instantly. so I select the app to open, it opens and then it shows lockscreen and I have to unlock. Wtf?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] a_ok2me:
You're Not Alone

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this annoyance.

My Galaxy Note 1 with S-Voice didn't have this problem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] andrawer:
Never noticed this problem in 7 months ownership on my N1 and havent had this on my N2.

Maybe I dont have the issue because I always have wifi turned on wether its used or not? GPS sensor is always on also.

Oh well just glad i dont have this lag.

(Still unrooted and loving it!)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] n8wood:
Just wanted to report my findings with a similar app. I'm using "Wake Lock" with the "PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK" mode enabled - I no longer see lockscreen lag and my battery usage seems to be minimally affected.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] PsyCl0ne:
Hey I just ran into this thread. Can it be related to this issue that OP and technically all of us are having?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1987032

~PsyCl0ne
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sling:
yeah it helps do away with some wakelag but what it does for Android OS as a whole is amazing.

Google needs to get with developer that built this mod , throw him some $$ and officially add tweak to Android
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] the2rrell:
Ran the Apk on my note 2, galaxy s3, and my Skyrocket

i saw NOTHING improved......they to be fair had very little lag to begin with. but i was hoping to see/feel some sort of change in the apps, screens, something.

Maps, and other apps took the same amount of time to load up and populate than it did prior to install. unless the apk is not doing what it says it is doing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] :
I am pretty sure I know the reason. Or two reasons.

1- it's lagging because its waiting for you to hit the home button again for S-Voice.

2- The phone goes into to deep sleep after 20-30 seconds. So while its annoying (the lag I mean) it's what helps this beast get such amazing battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] kabuk1:
Wow, this really helped. Thanks for posting this!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] raduque:
So #firstworldproblem it hurts.

800ms to 1 second to wake the device out of deep sleep. HORRABEL!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jrockttu:
If you don't want to improve your device, what are you doing on XDA?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] n8wood:
Actually it was about 2+ seconds for me. I'd say this was a serious design/QA mistake from Samsung.

I've tried multiple ROMs, none of them solved the issue. I don't think it was related to S-Voice since even AOSP/AOKP ROMs exibited the same behavior.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] Gary02468:
Anything related to a state-of-the-art smartphone is a #firstworldproblem.

If you use your phone a lot, that could add up to a minute or more per day, which is 6-12 hours over the lifetime of the phone.

Most people who aren't exceptionally idle would prefer not to throw away hours of their life needlessly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] NightHawkUndead:
Wow. That's just too funny.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] raduque:
Indeed. For me, by the time the phone wakes to the lock screen, I've used that time to move my finger to the screen to unlock it. I spend more time looking for the app I need than I use waiting for the phone to wake from deep sleep.

As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that needs improved on the device is that it should've launched with 32gb as the minimum internal storage (or given more than 11gb usable space, but I'm betting Samsung used one single 16gib chip for ALL of the phone's needs, including /system, /cache and etc).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] TheGrandFinale2001:
I have noticed a lag but honestly this phone is so great I don't even care anymore. I mean if some can find a fix that's great but I won't be returning the phone because of it.