yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] NicoCaldo:
the loading of applications and greatly improved speed. I do not think the battery consumption very fact seems to consume as before. also the swipe of a screen and the other seems speeded up

Is the value normal?

Inviato dal mio LG-P690 con Tapatalk 2
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] eoerl:
symlink based observations have -a priori- nothing to do with CPU scaling..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] foggyflute:
I'm using No frills CPU control to see if this phone stay in high freq. longer or not, and see nothing abnormal about it. (smartassv2 , 14% 1.2ghz max, 45% 184mhz min)

I also report recent app list more snappy jump up when I'm using apps so it's not about ramp up lag. And the map really run much much faster than before, not placebo.

Just restart after seeder_v6 a few hours ago, it's been 3 hours from full charge and I'm at 95%, I used to drain about 10% / night (12am to 7am) before this mod so that's no difference.

Of course if can be less lag by another reason but I also doubt it because of higher freq. , at least in my case.

PS: I also have more free ram now, before max free is around 130, now it go up to 170 sometime, this script should not related to any of this, but I didn't do any tweaking to the phone lately.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fabricatedhero:
Sgs4g on cm9.1 unofficial w/LZ kernel and i have to say this has really made rhe phone snappier with opening up apps and etc.

Will update about battery life in a day or two.

Thanks to the OP for this!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FDisk80:
Blame reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/15w1qi/fix_90_of_lags_in_android_needs_root/

/r/android got 211,458 readers.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Guzmanus:
After a few hours usagge in my galaxy note i can make a report.

I've noticed the percentage of time my device keeps on deep sleep has recuded but not much. It usually is around 60% with 20% in the lowest state (200mhz), and this night it's been around 50% and 200mhz around 30%. I assume thats the consumption of the apk waking the device.

Now i'll try on a normal day to see what's the battery consumption and see if it's adequate to use daily.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] y0himba:
Whether or not it is a "placebo", I support developers who contribute to the Android community. Thank you for your efforts. I know you won't get much, but I purchased the app through the market.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Guzmanus:
Anyway, and i dont know if this's already been posted, i'd suggest to enable the service only with screen-on, as the device is always awake on that state and we wont notice the lag with the screen off.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] x3nophobia:
excuse me, how to install this? just download the alpha file only or download all? @@
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] alexhdkn:
I think it's better now with the apk
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Prashnts:
Congratulations! you've been featured on Lifehacker>> http://lifehacker.com/5973002/seeder-kills-lag-in-android-seriously-boosts-your-phones-performance
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kAcA.:
Installed it on my sisters Xperia X10 which is full of crap and ***ty aps and this does make a difference. Seeder_v6 was not running first when installed but it was checked to run on boot. I think it needed a restart... So I ran it with Terminal Emulator and the aps open very faster and the difference is noticiable. Thank you for this mod!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hermanoscott:
Life Hacker

That's why I'm visiting and trying the seeder. :cyclops:

Thanks for all you do!!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Gillion:
Almost embarrassed to say I tried this on my GN2.

What with the hardware on the device along with 4.1.2 ... I suppose you could say I was greedy ?

There was no performance gain. However, the CPU did stay awake longer and my battery consumption went up from 0.6%- 1% to 2.2% per hour

Battery stats points to the CPU favoring 500MHz and not scaling down to 200MHz

Deep sleep was also an issue.

Just my $0.5
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Please read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36252773&postcount=738
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Bluemgt06:
I've noticed a great reduction in lag on my device, it has a lot just navigating the ui now it runs smooth as can be.

Asus Transformer Infinity running CleanRom 3.0.4
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] squigglysage:
working so far on Samsung Galaxy Young GT S5360

Just installed this app in my Galaxy Young GT S5360 and was amazed by the significant reduction in the lag in opening the menu screens. Before seeder it took around 5 to 10 seconds before the apps are displayed. After installing seeder, they were displayed instantaneously. The same goes when I press the home button. :good: Awesome work!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Nirrik:
Omg thank you for this awesome fix, very noticeable change.

Look Idk about everyone else but I'm running the latest ARHD Rom for my sensation and have bricked kernel and haven't noticed any big change in battery life. Maybe its different for my phone, hell if it is a placebo its the best one ever. Thanks again for this!

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G with Beats Audio
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lindsay56:
I have the hitch thunderbolt with Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 sense 3.6. It has quite a bit of lag so I installed seeder about 5 hrs ago and the lag has been reduced by more than half. It's hard to believe the difference and anyone with ice can understand. I want to say a BIG THANK YOU.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] whisky_:
I've installed this via the APK on my Galaxy Note 2 (N7100) running stock 4.1.2 but I feel no real difference in performance.

Can anyone please enlighten me on how to undo this? Like uninstall this?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dav1917:
Thank You!

Thank you lambgx02! I installed this 5 minutes ago and I can tell a big difference in responsiveness. If it stays stable for ~ a week, I'll get the pay version.

I have a Thunderbolt so I'm used to a short battery life, but if I notice an impact I'll let you know.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Neo:
Or you could simply subscribe to the thread?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sanriver12:
Looks like the devs are treating it as a placebo at the moment.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ttabbal:
Uninstall the app... Reboot to be 100% sure the process isn't in memory.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] :
on i9000 with cm10.1 (latest nightly) work perfectly!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AlexVipXDA:
I've galaxy s2 and i want try this, i need only istall apk right? and dor remove all i need only delete app? ty
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vipul12389mehta:
Yes, this definately works.....

i am on cm10.1 and i had huge scroll issue...but by this app, they have just vanished... its nw 90% smoother...

i do understand the project butter missing.. bt its great... works like a charm..!!

i m using Galaxy R i9103 cm10.1 beta 2.3
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] BlueHarford:
im running the same thing... i dont notice anything but the lockscreen lag is gone. small enough app to keep it just for that
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dawiseguy77:
Hello I just found this application I'm using it on rooted gs3 from Verizon and I have noticed a nice difference wanted to say thank you. Keep up the good work.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] obvious:
It REALLY doesn't look like this works

https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/GWr72W9zmY2

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265

The APK holds the CPU high and with the script the device is snappier after a reboot...due to the reboot.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DeaconBoogie:
Trying it on my Galaxy Nexus...

JellyBelly 11.1

Leankernel 5.3.0

So far, battery life seems about what it was before, but the performance is completely tits now! No lag, as others have said. Or at least the lag is tremendously reduced. Placebo? My ass!

No deep sleep issues here. For my phone, with the apps I run, the below is completely normal with what I typically get:

---------- Post added at 07:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:29 AM ----------

BTW: It looks like LeanKernel 5.5 is up and includes an entropy fix of its own.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AglarondTX:
Now we're getting somewhere. I reran my tests and can conclude the following.

Some apps were faster with the sysctl fix and the CPU locked. Maps was a big one and connecting to certain sites.

Most of the apps I had seen improvement on showed the same or even better improvements with the sysctl fix out of the way and the CPU locked.

That means, at least on my hardware, that the sysctl fix works on some things, but only a small fraction of what i was originally claiming. The rest seems to be because the CPU is kept awake and in a higher state.

This could also be why some people aren't seeing improvements like others. It could have a lot to do with how your kernel governs CPU behavior.

-mS
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pulser_g2:
Thanks, this confirms what I've been saying for a while, but which people seem to want to ignore.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Mantulis:
Android doesn't use /dev/random. No matter what improvements people report, this is either a placebo, or it keeps the CPU on a higher frequency making it respond faster.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] t4d73:
It does keep the cpu at a higher frequency which obviously will reduce lag. But if you're worried about battery life than it's probably not you're friend.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zombiefly:
working well here on HTC One X CM10 SE 2.1 (bricked kernel)

the phone is obviously faster. This is no placebo

my battery life appears to be the same as it was before on this rom. Poor. but it's no worse than it was.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] castaway1:
i dont see anything bad in CPU freq
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TKG26:
Stock No root GS3 Telus.

Installed via apk

First bench before installing, no reboot

Cleared memory before running.

Second bench after installing apk, no reboot, cleared memory before running
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Neo-ST:
I bought your app because I think you deserve it.

Please keep up the good work, thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ankitaggarwal001:
My phone seems to be fast too. This doesnt appear to be a placebo to me.:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jr_718:
This script and apk works and I like it all.. don't know why people think its a :mad:****ing placebo.. or having higher frequency is what your experiencing.. if you don't think it does, hate it or leave it alone..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Definately not helping as this app requires root...and benchmarks are not trustworthy...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tenet420:
SEEDER MADE IT TO LIFEHACKER!

There is an article about Seeder on Lifehacker today. CONGRATS!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] turnuslives:
I'll run it today for a bit. And the lifehacker coverage is no joke.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xfloggingkylex:
http://lifehacker.com/5973002/seede...urce=lifehacker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bluerain28:
Yep, read it too. :D Great work mate. :D :D http://lifehacker.com/5973002/seeder-kills-lag-in-android-seriously-boosts-your-phones-performance
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] foggyflute:
By logic, this app should not: speed things up, free my ram, boost performance, but it do, for real - not placebo, Maps was sluggish and now snappy, I have 170MB free ram now, recent app list not make me wait like before.

I still don't understand how it work, and most people have knowledge about those random data have no idea why it work too. But pls keep up until the real reason why even symlink method work. Then fix the android for good.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Wayland_ACE:
I had made Android version of this daemon (rngd): https://github.com/WaylandAce/android_external_rng_tools. So it can be builded with rom and started like service
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mindoz:
Installed and ready to test

Installed Seeder on my SGS3 with Omega V35.

Now let's try and report back feedback

Congrats!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] justmeandmyphone:
Great!

My SGS2 with JB got noticable faster.

But it got better. Just as I read about your App, my HD2 with an CM10-based ROM got super laggy; rebooted, removed battery, cleared cache and dalvik cache; nothing really helped. Installing Seeder took a while, after several minutes of waiting finally the superuser request popped up - after tapping on allow, it took about only a second until all snaily laggyness was gone! Yeeeeeeehaw! :highfive::good::p
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] WCCobra:
Installed on the HTC One S running CM 10 and it seems be working great. :good:

Hope battery life isn't hit too hard though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xPr0metheus:
Ok tried it on my SG S3 with Wanamlite ROM 5.3 and Siyah Kernel 1.8.6 and it seems to be very impressive. I got counts between 2000++ and 4000++. Think thats normal. Tried it on playing Modern Combat 4 Online Mode and suffered no laggs at all, will test this again to be sure this was no coincidence. Thank you guys =)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] broodplank1337:
Wow thanks dude! I just compiled AOSP JB for my phone and this just makes it 100% smoother :D awesome work!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] shantam:
My read wakeup_threshold is 64

After installing manually by transfering files in prior folders

And after uninstalling.the mod

Its same as 64

And pool size is 4096

Is this normal

Or whats the default value..

As i am facing massive battery drain

***//'?'\\***
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dawiseguy77:
Seems the app doesn't stay turned on. Either that or its on and the app just doesn't reflect it cause it always says off even when setting at boot check box I turning on and upon exiting its off again. So how do I know its on and working or not
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] the1dynasty:
Gonna try this out on my Nexus S 4G running BakedBean7... Its already quite fast now on 4.2.1... But we'll see!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] canis999:
Works absolutely amazing on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 with CM10.1. No battery life decrease for now.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] WCCobra:
It is a known bug with the GUI... but the app is on and running in the background
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Please read this, all the answers are here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36252773#post36252773
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Prack:
Interesting idea but I don't think it's doing much on my device. I have a rooted verizon samsung galaxy sIII and my benchmark scores are the same, apps run the same etc. I guess I didn't really have any lag to begin with but I thought I would see a benchmark improvement but I did not.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rawdealer:
I don't know what you are running on your phone :D :D but this file improves speed for 0.01% on my build :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rfranken:
sgs3

One could maybe persuade me that some of this is placebo effect. but no one will persuade me that my Gallery isn't holy shat the fastest i've ever seen ever.

Weird thing is QuickPic isn't any faster...but my built in Gallery on this Eclipse 4.1.2 rom is sooooo fast. and smooth
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] foggyflute:
Can you update the post with symlink method, it's bad for security (in theory, there's more things to concern than someone brute force attack encrypted data of apps in my phone), that method have no interactive with cpu and restart, so everyone believe this is placebo can try.

I'm fine with your v6 script, no visible battery drain :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShivangDave:
WORKS PERFEcTLY...

Tried it on my Sony xperia Miro(ST23i)..

Worked like charm....

But I've to turn it on manually after every restart.. else perfect..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
I guess the person who said that about lag upon home button press was me. That was true, but doesn't apply all the time.

I have MIUI. Typically, on TouchWiz, home button would lag because of S Voice's settings (double press home button to activate). In MIUI, S Voice does not exist, hence my confusion regarding the home button lag.

Pressing the home button still takes me to the homescreen with a ~1 second delay, but after enabling this seeder entropy chemistry formula thingie ( :D ), it seems that the lag does not always appear anymore. Hope you understand.

And you are right about the CPU scaling - it changed dramatically : going from only 3 frequency steps used, to a total of 7! Not sure how that impacts battery life (I myself feel that my battery is a bit off - God knows how I reconnected the USB wires on the motherboard of my PC so that one USB port gives way too much current :) ), but I will try to measure it.

How I intend to measure this : using the same ROM, same kernel, same modem (for what it's worth, haha), go through a full day of use with and without the seeder entropy enabled, and logging everything with Battery Monitor Widget. Maybe that's not the best way, but it's the least I can do.

---------- Post added at 04:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:42 PM ----------

Now that's impressive.

I've owned the HTC EVO 3D (back when it only had Gingerbread, anyway) and it was nowhere near that fast :) .

If only the Sensation would have a better antenna... I'd have gotten it.

(yup, I just killed the English right there)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
That post is mainly to answer those who are trying to use seeder but don't know how...I do not agree that the symlink method is safer, it has the same risk as rngd because rngd directs /dev/urandom to /dev/random, which is the same as symlinking them...and if I do update with all possible suggestions by zep and Tungstwenty, more confusion and questions will arise, which clutters the thread...this thread is supposed to be a mutual research and discussion...not full of questions that can be answered through reading...so, thanks for your suggestion anyway but I won't do that...:)

Just in case, newcomers, before asking, please read this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36252773#post36252773...it will most probably solve your doubts...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Neo:
What did they ever do to you? :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
What Ricardo says there is true. The reason we see this gain in performance is because of the I/O increase. Having the bandwith of transiting data enlarged (so-to-say), means the CPU needs to be able to process more data that it receives, right? That automatically means an increase in CPU active time, which later leads to more power usage.

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That's not just it.

Setting the CPU @ 1.6 GHz with Performance governor on did not deploy the performance rating I'm getting with the CPU @ 1.4 GHz with Ondemand governor on and Entropy Seeder on.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] speedyg0nz:
It's a little curious that lambgx02 hasn't replied in this thread for a while but it seems that he has been commenting over at Reddit with the username nightfire_.

http://www.reddit.com/user/nightfire_

Good news is, he's been working on an update to seeder.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
I just don't rock at English at times. But when I do... I do :D .

Last year, I wanted a Rezound so much... :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xufuchang:
installed on my transformer with team eos jb rom. opening recent app list now lagging, didn't see any improvement in loading app or jump back to home screen. uninstall.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ahmed1991za:
what the other two files are

i just installed the apk file but the other two files (rngd.zip,rng-tools_android) i don't know what to do with them please any one who know what to do with them tell me by reply

thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] foggyflute:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265#c91

Interesting theory::
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
What other two files?

Just download the .apk, install it, turn it ON (maybe set it to enable automatically on reboot) and that's it.

Don't download & extract the .zip...

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Wow, a girl? Here? Orly?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] CBConsultation:
Just as a side note, but your device can get well into 6000+ by turning off the power saving function.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rhisendark:
not working on my phone... what should i do?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
I still don't get what this randomness is. Randomness... what?

Also, not even back in high school, I did not understand what entropy FREAKING IS. Not even now, in college.

What sorcery is this :eek:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Well...I guess he is just fed up of the amount of posts asking how to test/make this thing work...the thread was cool and constructive research was going on until 2 days ago...even my pal, pepoluan who used to be a regular tester and "researcher" (couldn't find a better word...:p) chooses to not to attend to this thread as frequently as he did...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
When I installed the .apk on my phone, I did not get prompted for allowing superuser permissions. So... how does this app requires root, anyway? :/

---------- Post added at 05:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:03 PM ----------

Yeah... ratings went boom after this thread was featured on XDA portal, apparently. I can't keep up with it. I feel like when I had the S2 : decided to go with AOKP simply because all other threads were increasing by 100 posts per minute.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Ryuinferno:
Well, there is this user who reported that he waited several minutes for the prompt...so I guess this bug is worth reporting to OP...:)...so to really test this out for now, run the rngd binary via init.d...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Bewinxed:
Installed on a 4.1.2 Galaxy Nexus...SICK
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Formhault:
I didn't get superuser prompt, which lead me to believe the app doesn't require root (yeah, I DID think that's possible, lol).

Alright.

Seeder off : entropy avail seems to hover around 133 - 169.

Seeder on : entropy avail stays somewhat locked at 3776.

Not a placebo. When I navigated through the menus to enable / disable seeder & open / close Terminal... the lag difference was dramatically visible !