yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Not a bad analogy, quite a bit off the mark though.

That sandwich shop still sells all the sandwiches just puts extra hot tabasco in every single one of them. Which only appeals to very few people. People keep coming and asking for tuna and sweetcorn without tabasco, but shop keeper keeps putting it in still. If customer voices his opinion, he gets kicked out of the shop. That shop used to be the place where people made friends but now less and less people come there. All these people look at the shop as they walk past and think "hey what a waste of space, could build something useful there".

But as long as at least a few people like tabasco shop will exist.
[About XDA developers] the_scotsman:
Shopkeeper says feel free to get your sandwiches elsewhere if you don't like ours.

XDA having an OT forum has absolutely NO relevance to any of our device forums. In fact the opposite might be true. No OT = more OT in device forums.

Seriously, I don't get what your problem is. Ignore the OT forum if it's a problem for you.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
See point 1. Ie my initial request.

In the end of the day, this is request thread. It works like that : I request something, backup with reasoning, you either action it or don't with reasoning behind the decision. "Don't like it - don't use it" is a little too immature to be a decent reason.

But ok, I understand, OT stays.

Kthnxbai
[About XDA developers] the_scotsman:
Your request is to remove a whole sub-forum. I know for a fact the owners dont want to get rid of the OT forum, so I'm afraid your request is denied.
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Everyone knows (or should know) my opinion on OT. I've asked for it to be removed on numerous occasions. Got same response each time. It serves a purpose and keeps OT out of device forums.

Personally I still think it's a waste of space, but meh....... I'll just have to live with it.

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] Babydollll:
OK. Ilk throw my hat into the ring and give my opinion.

OT absolutely served a purpose. It's original function was to serve as place that members could get together and discuss/share/opine on topics that did not relate directly to the device forum(s).

It USED to be a place where members would kick back and get to know each other a little.

That has changed and in my humble opinion, for the worse.

It's now basically a dumping ground for 10 poster posts and spam.

XDA has changed, whether we like it or not. It's not so much about development anymore. It's a support site now. The same "give me the answer now so I don't have to put any effort into learning anything" attitude that has become the prevailing force in device forums is also the same force that brought ot to it's current state.

Does ot require moderation? Well, yes. Every forum requires moderator attention.

Do I agree with the level of hard handedness (nor sure if actual word... Don't care) the moderators have used in ot?

Absolutely not. (Not that my opinion matters, but BAM! there it is)

Do I agree with many here that ot has lost it's way and should be shut down?

Absolutely YES.

Will any of what I've just said make a difference?

Sadly, no.

Best regards,

Babydollll/FlyGurl
[About XDA developers] flastnoles11:
Did you honestly expect anything more, you should know better by now
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
With all due respect, 10 posters are a problem all over the site. If some folks would venture out of the OT forum, perhaps they'd know. We have seven moderators plus SMs who moderate in OT, the only help needed from the folks in OT is to click the report button if there's an issue. We don't need GTFO, IBFL, etc.

We also have a long list of forums that we also have to moderate. However, some people in OT feel that they're the only forum on XDA and we're just here to pick on or joke it up with them. Honestly, we don't have time to get all into each thread to look for things but if we see something, we have to act. Like I've said before, our job is not to only action the "10 post noobs" or people the OT regulars feel are unworthy to post on their threads or those you feel shouldn't create their own threads. We action everyone equally. I'm sorry but no one gets a free pass to break the rules, flame, trash, insult, curse out, etc. whomever they want because they're in the OT forum. The site rules still apply because the OT forum is a part of xda-developers.com. You all get away with a lot more than anywhere else and you don't even realize it because everyone's too busy making everything into a pity party.

If your opinions are "mods suck", "mods are the gestapo", "XDA needs to crash and burn", etc. it's getting deleted. You don't see any moderators disparaging members or insulting each other on threads so why do some of you people feel it's alright to do it to us? If you have a problem with an individual moderator action, you need put on your big boy or girl pants and go to the individual moderator via PM and stop looking for an audience. If you feel a moderator did something above and beyond the rules, then contact the moderator committee.

I know you all want to run the show in the OT forum but that's not going to happen neither is removing it because that's what a few of you want. If you don't like how things are, then you're free to, egads, go elsewhere on this site or find somewhere else that will let you do whatever you please.
[About XDA developers] Babydollll:
You've completely missed the point of my post.

Yes, I understand that 10 posters are a problem all over the site. (I have admin on another forum and I understand the challenges of making sure everyone follows the rules and keeping order on a forum... Though not this large)

I'm not saying that mods suck. (You have a difficult job at best and walk a fine line between keeping order on the site and keeping everyone happy.)

Quite the contrary actually. What I'm saying is that due to the present state of xda (ot in particular) is that there's a "ban first, ask questions later" attitude in some forums (or in particular) and with some members

I'm not bashing xda or the moderators that give their time.

I'm simply stating my opinion on ot and how things have changed. Also that ot no longer serves the purpose it once did.

I feel your post comes from a defensive standpoint and I'm not posting here to make anyone feel defensive. I'm posting my feelings on the ot debate.

I'm entitled to post my opinion in a respectful manner and that's what I did.
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
Not from what I saw or have seen but it's all good. Please in the future if you or anyone else has an issue with a moderator, go to the actual moderator in question.
[About XDA developers] rupanshsekar:
I AGREE

I agree Iwith you :highfive:
[About XDA developers] Goku80:
seriously?:eek: not a better way for you to up your posts than quoting the OP and saying what you said..come on man you can do better..

on another note best thing is never moan or argue with a mod on xda..cause no matter if you are right or wrong there is only one right side to the issue and that is well not yours..so my advice to people who have issues with mods...Do not pursue it cause there will always be one outcome..
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
What a load of rubbish imho. Mods make mistakes to. If you have issues with a mod report it to the MC

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] Goku80:
you are entitled to your opinion and i to mine. but you should know more than anyone the issues i had previously with mods here..i put my hands up some of them i was out of order but there have been occasions were mods have took some cases to the extreme with myself..

outcome..never joke around with a mod cause even as a joke the mod gets all hissy fit and throws warnings all over the place cause he did not like a joke and second even if you try to explain the situation that all was a laugh still they like to throw there power they have...anyways less said better but i still agree with some of the posts above that XDA has not been the same...
[About XDA developers] razmth:
Hi,

Not sure if this is the most appropriate topic to ask about my problem.

I haven't 10 posts yet, but I understand the necessity of captcha. That's the problem: everytime that I write, the page reloads, and asks me for input another text. There is some problem and it's very frustrating. I need to try for 10 minutes to post one phrase, or question. And in the end, I'm still without posting my doubts.
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
I believe there's a captcha and a time period between each post. Are you saying that it's doing that between each word you type or does the page reload before you can post something?
[About XDA developers] razmth:
I try to post something, so I write the captcha, I send my reply, then the page refreshes always asking captcha again and again, like when you type wrong words, but I did it correctly.

Any message about incorrect captcha appears for me.
[About XDA developers] vanessaem:
I believe that's the normal process with first posts.
[About XDA developers] razmth:
For many posts, one captcha for each post. Ok.

But for the same post you need to enter the captcha many times? It's not normal for me. :(
[About XDA developers] Fallen Spartan:
Ok, fair enough, but I'd like to think we have a sense of humour. Again, if you ever feel you are being hard done by, let the MC know

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You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think! XDA, mobile wisdom, not a n00b feeding ground!!
[About XDA developers] Toledo_JAB:
Are you minding the spaces and capitals?

I don't remember but is there an audio option to hear the captcha?

1 post = 1 correct captcha

Possible browser issue?

Clear cache?

Cookies?

from my Xperia ION
[About XDA developers] circuit1:
@moderators

looking at the statistics I think 10 post rule should be abandoned due to following reasons:

1) It is one of the reason for spamming (I have literally seeing noobs writing thanks, good work, just to increase thanks).

2) If we take a look at an average postings, majority of the 'high' post users contains most of there posts in off-topic forums.

3) It irritates new members, just imagine a new friend has visited house and he is not permitted to enter dining room.

4) After 10 posts, the user will follow the noobish questions in development thread any way, most of the times in development threads questions and bugs are similar

5) XDA can be called a machine of noobs to devs where a noob goes in and a dev comes out without any restriction

6) Freedom is one of the most significant factor of life which is right of everyone.

Please think of it and implement something that not only controls new users but old users as well for example there r many senior members with 1000's of posts and all spam.
[About XDA developers] GermainZ:
Wrong thread. Read the OP. ;)
[About XDA developers] erikalin:
(Can't believe I'm starting a post with this but) I hope I am posting my request/feedback in the right place. This is about XDA and their Tapatalk relationship. This is not a question about the Tapatalk app. It's a request or point of feedback for XDA admins.

Issue

: I recently noticed that I get logged out of XDA when I close Tapatalk, or when I go into another forum while still in Tapatalk. I do not, however, get logged out of the other forums in my Tapatalk account. Some other people on XDA are having this experience but not everyone. I am not referring to Tapatalk issues, which we all know exist.

My Background

: I own a small forum that is integrated with Tapatalk, and so I'm essentially familiar with the API requirements and updates on Tapatalk's side that the forum owner/admin has to work with. From my own experience bringing my forum into Tapatalk compatibility and all that, I know there have been some recent API updates. The most recent was May 21, 2014 (yesterday from my post here)... I just looked at tapatalk.com to get the API number to share but since I updated my forum it now just shows "latest" on my end, sorry.

My request/feedback

: If whomever is the XDA admin that deals with Tapatalk will login on Tapatalk.com for XDA admin, that person will see the update I'm talking about under "Forum API Status".

I don't need a reply or anything...just wanted to make this request/feedback. Thanks for your time. Peace.
[About XDA developers] chromefinch:
wow, cool thread bro.

Neato.

---------- Post added at 05:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:09 PM ----------

I need to bother professional and amateur developers with my simple minded questions so i don't have to google stuff to get an answer.

But really, I'd just like to be able to help fellow testers with the few subjects that interest me, not bombard the heroes that make android great.
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
I think the server guys must be having a bit of fun with the moving of posts and my post count being severely cut down and then brought back up again :eek:
[About XDA developers] boborone:
Post count was because of thread being deleted and then brought back from the dead.
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Yeah I'd noticed that once I'd lost around 2600 posts lol.

Even after noticing the thread had been deleted though, my posts still remained lower for quite some time. I was only this morning that the posts were showing back up again, with no physical posts to show for it.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
thread deleted, thread brought back, O.o not sure what you don't understan
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
The thread isn't back. It's a new thread. The point is, the posts are in my post count without them existing.
[About XDA developers] boborone:
no it's back
[About XDA developers] a.cid:
Zepp's famous thread also has the issue of posts getting switched...

---------- Post added at 10:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 AM ----------

O.o

My thread too has the 3rd and 4 post interchanged...

(I'll fix this, just informing)
[About XDA developers] PG101:
Yes, during the db update, some how the posts with the same time stamp got jumbled.. if you come across such posts, pls report them so it can be fixed.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Report them here or locally using report button?
[About XDA developers] PG101:
Using the report button ;)

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PG101

Senior Moderator / RC-RT Liaison
[About XDA developers] Deadly:
Well, I have been having this problem from the time I used subscription folders option.. been lazy to report it.. till date I didn't see anyone report on this in old thread or here.. or may be I just missed it.. so writing this..

Well, here goes..

When we subscribe a thread, it goes to the default" subscriptions" folder..

Say I have created 3 more folders in subscribed threads page view..

I have names them "a" "b" "c"

I moved my first 70 subscribed threads to "a" folder and then next 80 threads to "b" folder.. and the rest of them to "c" folder..

Now, whenever I reply to those threads which I have moved them to these "a" "b" "c" folders.. those threads gets automatically moved to default "subscriptions" folder.. that is when I check them in subscribed threads after replying to a thread which was in folder "a" will get moved back to default folder automatically..

If it gets moved every time I reply to thread.. then what's the point of having these folders?:confused:

I have rom related threads folder, kernel related threads folder, and tweaks, apps etc.. so I have around 6/7 folders..

But each time I reply to those threads all my sorting goes out of window.. as they move back to default folder..

Is this an issue with only my profile? Or the system itself is implemented like this?

Also,I would like to request these...

there is no search option for subscribed threads.. it would have been really a great feature to have search for subscribed threads..

Because nowadays, I'm noticing this, as my subscribed threads number is going more than 500+ for me and its getting really hard to search them as it gets mingled with default folder whenever I reply to those threads.. I'm sure many here would have more than my subscribed thread numbers.. so is this an issue only with me?:confused:

Also, can we have a thanks hit criteria in search preferences?

What I mean is.. if we want to see only thanked posts in a search ? This would help in reducing lots of posts in big threads.. also there was a mist thanked post widget which used to do this to some extent, but its not online anymore.. so atleast if this is added in advanced search preferences option.. it would be really helpful..

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Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.
[About XDA developers] benkxda:
As I can see, yours and mine problem is still not fixed. Can we expect a fix until the end of 2012 or do we have to wait a few more weeks due to also admins have x-mas holiday? Or can we fix it by our own with deleting/creating anything/something or with a magic code? :laugh:

Feedback is welcome, cause I don't know anything about this bug. Thanks :good:
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
It's a problem with the database indexes that are a bit scrambled and it isn't an easy fix. Report these issues via the report system and we will fix them as they're discovered.

GaboWinter, your thread is sorted back into shape, I hope :)
[About XDA developers] benkxda:
Thank you, done as suggested. Hope this bug will be fixed soon and if it wants to appear again it only appears again on other websites, not XDA :).

EDIT: The only thing happened: Someone changed the content of post #1 with content of post #2. So the "THANKS counter" is wrong and the title of the thread still is stuck in post #2. This is no solution. Changing content of two of my own posts I can do on my own. No hint like "we can't fix it" or so, just changed content - well... a bit disappointing.

EDIT: Have to correct myself, I got a PM with the notice "Posts switched", but it's only the content, not the complete post, as I wrote.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
If we were encouraging people to post spam then you might have a point, however we aren't.

Please look into the reasons for the rule a little more thoroughly.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
It'll be possible as soon as you get to ten - and that's ten useful posts, not posts in here quibbling....Go to your device section and find people who have asked questions and need help. Answer them. You'll be there in no time. As for thanks, there's a button for that. Posts in Development are supposed to be development related, questions go in Q&A.
[About XDA developers] NotATreoFan:
The 10 post rule is explained quite nicely in the first post of this thread, and will not be debated here.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
Does the thanks count matter that much? Tbh I can't really see the problem here with regards the thanks...
[About XDA developers] benkxda:
No, the thanks counter isn't that big deal. The problem is the title and if the bug is not fixed, this problem could happen again.
[About XDA developers] reinbeau:
You can fix the title, click Edit, then Go Advanced, and fix it up. Hopefully it won't happen again.
[About XDA developers] geronimo48:
How to Change Phones

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask - I have looked everywhere I can think of.

I just got a Galaxy S5 and have stopped using my HTC Rezound. Every time I log into XDAdevelopers I am still taken to the HTC Rezound section of the Forums. I opened the Control Panel and changed my phone, but that didn't work. How do I change my account so that I go to the Galaxy S5 section when I log in? Or, is there a guidance document I can use to look it up myself?

Thanks.
[About XDA developers] bokchoi2020:
Hi, I am wondering, is DevDB only reserved for certain phones?

I'm sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I have no idea where to have a device request for dev:db.

I am making a tool for the Huawei Ascend P6, and fellow developers would also like to have access to this feature in our P6 forum.

Well, this is the link to our forum. http://xdaforums.com/ascend-p6

I am just wondering if it is possible or not.

Thanks in advance.
[About XDA developers] OmarEinea:
[Request] Would you please move these threads!!

Hello Moderators and Admins,

I thought all ROMs compiled from source should be posted in Original Android Development section,

but another xda member has told me to move them to Android Development section instead

so please move these threads from Original Android Development to Android Development (if compiled from source ROMs should be there):

[Xperia Z1] [4.4.2][Unofficial][LINARO] Resurrection Remix® KitKat v5.1.1 - Honami [14/05/08]

[Xperia Z1 Compact] [4.4.2][OFFICIAL][LINARO] Resurrection Remix® KitKat v5.1.1 - Amami [14/05/08]

[Xperia Z1 Compact] [4.4.2] Carbon Rom KK Unofficial - Amami [built from source][2014-05-11]

[Xperia Z1 Compact] [4.4.2][KVT49L] SlimKat - Amami [Build 4.9][Beta][UNOFFICIAL][2014-05-06]

[Xperia Z1 Compact] [Z1C] UNOFFICIAL DooMKernel [v17][Stock KK .757]
[About XDA developers] eagleeyetom:
Not every source-built ROM is considered as Original Dvlopment. You can find guidelines in this portal post.

You can report the thread that should be moved by hitting the report button on the top right corner of the post to bring moderator's attention.
[About XDA developers] OmarEinea:
First of all thanks for your quick respond, second thing is that these are all my threads:angel: I'm not quite reporting them,

but anyway, after reading the post you mentioned, now I know that both Resurrection Remix ROMs (which I've officially maintained) are Original Dvlopment,

and also the kernel (DooMKernel), but the post doesn't explain enough whether unofficially compiled from source ROMs are OD or not, just like:

[Xperia Z1 Compact] [4.4.2] Carbon Rom KK Unofficial - Amami [built from source][2014-05-11]

[Xperia Z1 Compact] [4.4.2][KVT49L] SlimKat - Amami [Build 4.9][Beta][UNOFFICIAL][2014-05-06]

so if you please can tell me, and if they aren't OD, I'll report them using the report button as you mentioned, thanks alot.
[About XDA developers] Jonny:
About Resurrection Remix - what in particular makes that OD? What original features are in Resurrection Remix? Same goes for CarbonROM.

If there is no official version of the SlimKat ROM for your device then that thread is OK in OD because we class Slim ROM's as original due to having original features (such as a new/improved recent apps display and other features), but if there is an official thread for SlimKat then yours would go in AD as per the guidelines.
[About XDA developers] It_ler:
The main S5 forum is here.

You can set it as bookmark in your browser or just subscribe to the S5 threads that you are instersted in.

So you only need to check your subscriptions to see the current forums/threads.
[About XDA developers] geronimo48:
I had done all of the things you suggested before asking for help. I unsubscribed from all Rezound fora and subscribed to Galaxy S5 ones. I looked through the control panel and couldn't find any mention of HTC Rezound. When I close XDAdevelopers and then open it again at the top left part of the screen I see the little house icon, followed by "HTC Rezound". I logged out and logged back in and the same thing happens. Should I close my account and open a new one indicating that my phone is a Galaxy S5?

Thanks
[About XDA developers] It_ler:
Maybe it's better to post a screenshot here.

I can see the Verzion Samsung Galaxy S5 as Device under your user details.
[About XDA developers] geronimo48:
[SOLVED] [All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins

OK, my face is bright red because I have found my dumb mistake. But, I'm going to share just in case someone else has the same problem.

I had my browser set to open xdadevelopers in the HTC Rezound section. That's it. I changed it to Gaxaxy S5 and all is well.

Thanks for your assistance, but I'm afraid what I really needed was BRAIN SURGERY!