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[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
I think you are not familiar with FOSS.

What's the point of technology if only select few with deep pockets are able to use it? Technology is meant to empower people. What's harm if there are phones available at 8k running android if they are able to introduce someone to internet?

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I won't feel awkward at all. And secondly it's not possible to have same specs at considerably lesser prices . Someone might try to undercut but it will never be significant.

eg Micromax has recently released a phone with quad core processors at 15k however if you actually check it they have quad core A7 processors where as N4 has A9/A15 hybrid quad core. Lots of difference in performance there.

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Not sure about the IO scheduler? Are you using Franco kernel? I have seen lag compared to stock on Franco hence am using harsh kernel.

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[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
No that's not the point. The point is, why do I pay MORE when someone paying less than half of what I have given enjoys THE SAME benefits. Then that could only mean two things. Either I'm stupid or the guy is very smart.

Do u get what I'm saying. Probably this isn't the place to discuss this.

Please don't misquote me. I am not against people enjoying or owing smart mobile technology. My point is price.

You buy a very very expensive Bentley. But as u drive home from the showroom, u see Tata has come up with a similar model as your Bentley.

Now am I clear?

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[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Sorry I misunderstood you.

The other guy might have paid half of what you've paid but the common thing is only OS. You will have fairly high end hardware compared to him.

Someone with Galaxy Ace won't even be able to see many of high end games in play store which you will be able to play with ease on your N4.

Galaxy Ace has single core 800Mhz cpu you have quad core 1.5 ghz cpu. Ace has 320x480 3.5 inch screen. You have 1280x768 4.7 screen. Ace has 512mb ram you have 2gb.

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[Nexus 4 General] NishantM:
I was using Franco kernel, but for some reason, reverted back to stock. The lag has started in stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
Fair enough. Though Ace was only an example...

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[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
Not really. I generally don't obsess about what others have. Kinda like making my choices for my own reasons. M sure nobody felt that way when we had our 6600s n there were lotsa other phones running symbien. It was all hardware then. The way phones are made, used n marketed have changed.
[Nexus 4 General] adil_:
IMO, the higher the number of these "cheap" android phones gets, the hotter the competition gets. And hence the prices will start to drop. So I guess that's good.

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
I would jump on that. What makes you think no one would buy that? Have you seen the Micromax A110? It's selling like hotcakes. It's the most popular phone on GSMArena. It's only people who are either slaves to brands or addicts of cutting edge technology who wouldn't want to buy those.

No. Because that phone would've been an option for me as well. If I didn't buy it, there must've been a reason. And that is what counts for me - what's best for me; not other people's needs and decisions.

I think it's safe to say that big guns like Samsung and LG won't try to compete with the local brands by dropping their prices. The two categories (local brands with aggressive pricing and big names with big price tags) are aimed at completely different demographics.
[Nexus 4 General] nitin.chobhe:
My Nexus 4 is reached to HSG

Hi Friends,

My Nexus 4 is now with HSG :D

They have categorized it as 'Tablet PC'. Will it attract more customs duty?

Shall I ask them to categorize it as a mobile phone?

Need your help.

Thanks!

Nitin
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
Though I do not have prior experience in importing or HSG, I do believe that this will attract more duty of around 17% or more.

Please do ask them to correct the category.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Yes make sure it's categorized as Cell Phone or Mobile phone with customs HS code 8517120000. If there i any field called retailer/shipper, make sure it's Google and not ebay or something else. If by mistake it's marked as ebay customs might create problems thinking it's second hand or something.
[Nexus 4 General] edge12345:
hi guys ...I thought you guys might be answer to this better ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2118425
[Nexus 4 General] ayushnasa:
ComGateWay

Hey I saw in the excelsheet that you had ordered through comGateWay and using HDFC credit card.

I am going to use the same combination. Could you tell me the breakup and final cost in INR which you paid for the phone?? Also, what was the conversion rates at that time and did HDFC charge extra for the order?
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
HDFC will charge about 700 as conversion fee. It 3.4% of total cost.

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[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
One last time and sorry people...just had a word with my dad. He is OK so far, but had a question. He says the custom duty should be 102%. So that means 349$x2.

Also... Picking BorderLinx. Is it good?

I'm Sorry to ask this again. I'm in the last league of making decisions and finalizing everything.

Thanks.

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[Nexus 4 General] NishantM:
Dude you are not importing a car, 102% duty is for importing automobiles. For mobile it's around 2%.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Did anyone order a screen protector locally? I have a skinomi on but I'm not satisfied with it at all and it's developed defects.

Which screen protector are you guys using then? What about the regular ones on EBay?
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
Any idea how to add my indian address in hopshopgo ?

ive already requested an item to be shipped to their address , but when i try to add my indian address i get this annoying error every way i try it saying that line 1 or 2 needs to upto 30 chars i dont get it.

please help
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
Lol...thanks...and Borderlinx is good right?

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Both lines need to be 30 or less characters.

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Use the thread search feature to search for "Borderlinx". Every forwarding service has been discussed numerous times already, best to search and avoid asking the same thing again and again.
[Nexus 4 General] nitin.chobhe:
Thanks a lot!

Thanks a lot Atul :good:. Will ask them to make necessary changes... If I change the retailer to Google, how I can provide the invoice?
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Mobiles are categorized as necessity hence duty is 2% and another 2% clearance charges so it's around 800 bucks.

Any company you pick HSG or Borderlinx is good. If you are ready to take bit customs risk but cheaper shipping go for HSG. If you don't want to take risk and can go for bit expensive service then borderlinx.

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[Nexus 4 General] nitin.chobhe:
Yes, HDFC charges 3.5% extra as Markup fee and the service charge on top of that. It costed me around 1100 extra :( But I read on internet that ICICI credit card doesn't have any such fee.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Neither does Citibank. :)
[Nexus 4 General] toocool7610:
And who gave you the authorities to decide that? :p

Google is there to make money, money is made from masses, free apps with advertisements, and some paid content. Billion of people as users and money flows like water.............
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
And who gave u the authority to question my authority? ;)

Was just saying...

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Easy dude. From what I can see, you're the one who needs to "tone down" your "Damnsung" opinions.

No one is forcing you to buy an Android device, you're free to buy one that runs an "exclusive" OS if you wish.
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
Its is Damnsung for me. And that's what it will stay for me.

Gotta problem with that ?

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I don't want trouble here. But if some smart Alex comes around questioning my authority for no reason, he/she will not be spared. I'm sorry but thats how it is.

I'm not pointing at anyone. No one points at me. Simple.

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
First you come to a public forum calling the #1 smartphone maker in the world (that I'm sure many people here love) names for no reason at all (don't you find that a little immature?), then you start a discussion about how you think Android sucks because hundreds of millions of people love it, and then you come and say "I'm not pointing at anyone"? Get your act together, kid.
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
Alright u asked for it.

1st - #1 brand huh? Cheap plastic, that costs less than half for what it is sold to the 'Oh So Wise' people like u. If u think its No.1, let me assure u, u have no idea what quality is. And don't just buy it because everyone else is buying it. Get your own reasons "kid".

2. My point was price. Not that 100s of people like it or not.

3. I POINTED AT no one in particular and said "Hey YOU....YES YOU..." When that smart Alex started out with "Who gave u the authority blah blah" that's when it became personal.

Next time, speak when u are spoken to.

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
I'm not even going to dignify the silly arguments with a response.

This is a public forum, by the way. If you do not want the public to respond, stay off it.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Come on guys!! This thread is about Nexus 4, lets not go into this bs.

@PROGUERAM,

First you started with this offtopic discussion, and then felt insulted when someone had a different opinion. Fine, now let it go. I am sure you'll find numerous other places where you can talk why you like the exclusiveness of android and your sadness at it now becoming more mainstream [ talking about India of course, as for the rest of the world, it was already one ]. Let's stick to the topic.

We have helped you [hopefully] in resolving lots of doubts you were having. No need to get acrimonious now.

Stick with your opinion but don't force it down other's mouth.

PEACE!!
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
Lol...

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Point taken. I am sorry to have started an off topic discussion. Some people have been really very helpful and I'm grateful to them.

Once again, I'm sorry. Won't happen again.

Peace.

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
What was the weight/volume of the package? Just want to know so that I can calculate shipping costs on other services myself. :)

When you get delivery please be sure to post pictures and let us know if that collected any additional customs duties!
[Nexus 4 General] Awesoham:
Can anyone answer?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34558453
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
I bought a nexus 4, its bumper, a nexus 10, and a liquid armor from Amazon. Total weight came to 3.37 kilos and shipping (customs, insurance etc included) cost about 4.5k. so pretty happy with the purchase.

I knew borderlinx was reliable coz a couple of months ago I got a MotoACTV, a jaybird sportsband and some other stuff delivered through them. Cost me a little over 5k that time.
[Nexus 4 General] VR.gtmini:
What I think is to get bunch of nexus 4 from respective countries where the phone is selling @ rs. 15 or 20k UNLIOCKED/INTERNATIONAL by our RELATIVES who will come to India in next month or days.

All this is for the ones who don't had any relatives in those countries or won't send n4 OR come to india in within next 2 months as per all our time period.

For example, we 10 guys in which only my(me) relative lives in US. Now we all will give him 150k and he would buy 10 nexus for all of us. And as he coming to India in Dec he will bring nexus and send to all of us.

Isn't it that nice. That is.:)

What do U think of? >
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
not a bad idea.. but if he gets caught by the customs.. he'll be screwed real deep and we have to forget the 1.5 lakh unless he ships it through courier (not sure) and pays the customs (sure)..
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
Ok package at delivery facility in my city. Who wants to buy it for 45k before I open it :D
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
That sounds awesome. And man were you lucky to get both N4 and N10! :D

I want to do the same. N10 is actually in stock now, so can I order it right away and have them wait until I order the N4 (how many ever weeks that might take) to consolidate packaging and ship?

A question regarding your purchase of N4 and N10 - did you use an Indian debit/credit card? I know Borderlinx would provide you the shipping address, so did you use the same address as the billing address as well? And will the shipping address have your name or Borderlinx?

Thanks a ton man. :)
[Nexus 4 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
Hey guys how to buy from US play store from india ? i wanaa buy nexus 4 .
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Which city are you from?
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
I'm in Jaipur, would ship to anywhere in India.

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Indian cc, same address, my name on the addresses.
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
can you pls give the link where u see N10 in stock...to be used with borderlink
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
N10 16GB is available for immediate delivery, but the 32GB version isn't.

Go to this link through a US VPN. If you don't have one, simply pick a US proxy from proxy.org. :)
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
I never said that mate.

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Got the package :D
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
UNBOXING VIDEO PLEASE!!!! :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
:D ok. Will take one now using my s2, and upload it once I get home.
[Nexus 4 General] Harkunwar:
get me one straight away

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Reviews of Borderlinx are bad. Buy or not :(

I don't want to take risk.

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Parents will not allow me of borderlinx thinking of it being risky :( :( *cry* *cry* :( :(
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
that pic makes me burn elsewhere.. :p
[Nexus 4 General] Harkunwar:
Even me but I still feel it as a risk :(
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
Used the service twice, no problems at all. Inn fact I give it 5 stars.

BTW, this phone is bloody awesome :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
you mentioned somehwere that u got N10 as well from amazon .. or I read it wrong..can you give me the link for N10
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
Go check pro's from ifixit tear down samsung phone who clearly state samsung is one of top 3/4 companies when it comes to built quality .

plastic doesnt mean cheap ,its durable light and your'e a dumass to not know the difference.

by the way u talk its pretty clear ur one of those arrogant kids with special needs .

there are androids for 2k and there are for 35k and people clearly know the difference its not all about OS.

coming here and challenging people with your single digit IQ and attitude isn't going to help anyone.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Let's stop discussing this.

Back to topic,

It seems that N4 is now being increasingly available [ appeared in canada, t-mobile once again and some european countries]. So hopefully N4 will be available in US soon and hopefully in large quantities so that it doesn't run out of stock soon [ or have people stuck in 8-weeks backorder]

BTW, I switched from CM10.1 to Paranoid Android. Pleasantly surprised and the PIE controls are indeed awesome. I was worried that it would require looking at the screen to actually press the buttons. But,with some learning it just becomes a quick swipe.

Only problem is that most kernels would ramp up the cpu speed on swipes, so the battery life is affected. [ Franco for instance won't immediately load both cpu's when just touching the device, but when swiping it does]

I am sure this is not something everyone would be comfortable with, but for those who like the increase in screen estate, this would be a welcome addition :)
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
i was always into using franco and cm10 always

but on my phone liquid smooth with hash kernel im getting amazing performance in fluidity and really good battery time .

3.5 to 4 hours of screen on time with mobile data 70% 3G and 30 % 2G , and 5 to 6 hours on wifi .

PS: just so u guys know everyone will not get same performance on same ROM/Kernel combo some phones like some roms more than others :P
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Again, which screen protector are you guys using on your phone? Has anyone tried those crazy cheap chinese screen protectors on ebay? There's one guy selling 3 for 150.
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
used one of at start , but they get scratched too easily and fast .

now using gadgetshieldz , been using that from my galaxy nexus days from a year worth the price and always had good results from them as long as its installed well.
[Nexus 4 General] PROGUERAM:
I'm not replying to your nonsense and isheep fanboism cause I want to stay on topic. Come to another forum/thread and I shall rip YOU apart. Go pay a high price for ur plastic and be happy.

Question to all the people who got their NeXus, no one has a yellow patch/splotches? There is a thread here with some insane number of replies. #scared

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[Nexus 4 General] hiteshrockzz:
Shipping.

My relatives just got a sealed nexus 4 16GB from ebay in US

i want suggestions about shipment to MUMBAI..

DHL ?

USPS?

FEDEX?

UPS?

help needed..
[Nexus 4 General] krazzyvishal:
I hate Indian Government! It is because of their taxes that these phones have such a high price! >_<

They cost really less in USA and countries other than India.

Our tax goes nowhere towards the development of the country, most of it is spent on giving the free allowances to our evil ministers!!!

I hate them all! >_<

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[Nexus 4 General] berz:
Dude government has nothing to do with nexus 4 price because its not launched in india :\

and phone's aren't any cheaper in USA compared to india they pretty much cost the same or more, only differnce is they have a contract model trust me phones are actually cheaper in india if u consider the bills we pay and what we pay for calling nexus 4 cost's so little because of google it has nothing to do with india usa or blah blah .
[Nexus 4 General] karanits:
Have you checked previous post? this question has been answered 100s of times.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
The tax on phones is 2%. The prices for unlocked phones are pretty much same in US and India.

The prices of $199 you see are on contract prices. You buy phone for $199 and sign a two year contract. The monthly cost comes to $60-$100. In long run its more expensive.

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[Nexus 4 General] sandeep_008:
hopshopgo telephone number

I want to know( those who used hopshopgo service), when we apply for hopshopgo they give one telephone number with US address, how we can update that same number in google wallet.is there is any problem If we do not update that telephone number in our google wallet account.

thanks in advance
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Since it doesn't accept Indian phone numbers, that's your only choice anyway. Do it, that's what we all did, or at least that's what I did. It's not going to cause any problems.
[Nexus 4 General] sandeep_008:
thanks for reply

Actually when I am updating my contact number, It say for sending verification code, as I am not having that phone number how can I verify same.

any how how you did it?
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Does it say it's for sending a verification code explicitly, or just "for verification purposes"? Could you post a screenshot please?
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
Hey ed10000, I'm planning to use my Citi credit card. Could you pls tell me how much would it come in INR for $363 approx.? (after conversion and forex charges if any)
[Nexus 4 General] sandeep_008:
here is screenshot
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
It'll come to around 19560 INR. :)

P.S. - Have Google started to take new orders again?

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That is a completely different thing, bro. You need to add your Indian number there.

When you're making the purchase, in the Billing Address section, you will find a field for your phone number. You need to enter the HSG number there.
[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
This happened to me when created a brand new Google Id n tried to add phone number. Had no such verification request while adding a new number to my existing Google ids.
[Nexus 4 General] sandeep_008:
Thanks a lot for clearing my doubt.

This means when I will make purchase from google store at that time, I need to fill my billing address along with hopshopgo provided telephone number.
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
Thanks mate. But you sure there are no forex charges? I bought an item from Best buy recently for $8.60 and I was expecting to be charged 460, 470 tops. But the actuals came to 499! So that's like ₹4 extra for every $. Any idea? It is a Citibank card.

No, orders not started yet. Still OOS.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
That's right. :)

Credit card, right? I used my Citibank Platinum CC just today to make a USD payment, and when I looked at how much was deducted, it came to around 53.88 INR per USD. At the same time, Google reported exchange rate was 53.78.

I've used it in the past to order the Nexus 4 as well, and there no extra charges like what people are saying about HDFC.
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
That's cool. :) Lets see what happens in my case. Mine is a Citi IOCL Platinum CC.

Btw, how do you come to know about the exchange rate at Citi's end on the same day as payment? Whenever I do, I only get the SMS alert saying "XXX USD has been spent at XXXX. Final FX rates and charges are applicable." and come to know the actual value only after couple of days when transaction reflects in the statement.

Are you talking about payment via PayPal (using the card)? In this case I know PP would show the actual conversion rate and value in INR that would be charged on the card.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
I log into Citibank Internet banking and take note of my available credit limit before and after making the payment. :)
[Nexus 4 General] ayushnasa:
Actually, I just downloaded all the docs giving details of all credit card's charges, and all of them (citibank, hdfc, icici) showed that a mark up of 3.5% is done on diff Currency transactions :confused:

Confused now....
[Nexus 4 General] anshumandash:
There is a service charge which will be billed to you when the statement is generated. Best way is to call citi customer care and understand all the charges.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
Pick either - 3-5 days, 3-5 weeks, in some cases 3 months.
[Nexus 4 General] yoshimitsu1234:
Got my nexus hard rubberised black case ordered front ebay on last Monday for Rs. 350. Nice case. Rubbery feel, cutouts for power, volume buttons, sim tray and speaker grill. Fits perfection.
[Nexus 4 General] karndev:
Using the same case right now till I can find a way to get the bumper. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] jayeshrc:
my phone. barbell fell on it 2 days ago :|

getting a new panel obviously..
[Nexus 4 General] hiteshrockzz:
post new pics man
[Nexus 4 General] underlord1:
dude looks good.but i cant find this case for 350. could u post the link ? :)