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[Nexus 4 General] piyush.nexus:
Nexus 4 Timeline & Breakdown

Hi,

Piyush Here.

My Full Nexus 4 Breakdown but before that I would like to tell about my past phone.

I bought Galaxy Nexus last year in Hyderabad for Rs.24,000 and I was very Impress by it.

Right away I knew the value of Nexus product. That Moment I decided that my futures phone will only Nexus.

I wanted to buy Nexus 4 when it was launched done some Research and was bumped into this post.

My first choice for ordering Nexus 4 was PPOBOX but as there plan got expensive, I decided to go with comGateway.

I knew via comGateway my box will be opened but I went with it as they were Offering good price.

Timeline:

1. Went to comGateway Facebook page to get US Address as they were offering $5 discount.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/comGatewayGlobal/app_146312548843472

2. Went to justfreevpn site to get a free VPN Account to order Nexus 4 from US Play Store.

Link: http://www.justfreevpn.com/

3. Odered Nexus 4 16GB from US Play Store on 13 March. This time onward My Indian Play Store was changed to US Play Store without VPN.

4. Google Shipped on 14 March by UPS.

5. Reached comGateway on 15 March.

6. Got Mail from comGateway on 16 March That my package has arrive. Paid same day.

(I should have asked them to attach the invoice on the package before paying)

7. comGateway shipped on 18 March via FedEx.

8. Got it on 25 March.

Box was opened by customs. Package had "Custom Opened" cello tape warped. Did notice some fingerprint on screen protector.

Breakdown:

Google:

Nexus 4 16GB - $349.00

Shipping - $13.99

Total - $362.99 = Rs.19740.90

Paid via Axis Bank Credit Card.

Bank:

Foreign Currency Charges 3.5% - Rs.690.93

Service Tax	- Rs.85.40

Total	- Rs.776.33

comGateway:

International Shipping	- $2.75

Fuel surcharge	- $2.28

Insurance	- $2.49

Discount	- $-5

Total	- $20.52 = Rs.1,156.84

Paid via PayPal to avoid Foreign Currency Charges.

FedEx:

Customs Duty	- Rs.1677

Other Charges	- Rs.300

Service Tax	- Rs.37

Total	- Rs.2014

Gadget Shieldz Screen Proctor:

Amount	- Rs.399

Discount - Rs.-31.92

Total	- Rs.367.08

Bought from ebay.in

Link: http://www.ebay.in/itm/390535321040?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Micro Sim:

Got it cut from mobile store for Rs.30

Charger:

Bought plug adapter from electonic store for Rs.20

Headset:

Skullcandy Ink'd 2 Headset on Flipkart Rs.1199 and on ebay Rs.800 (will buy one of this)

Link: http://www.flipkart.com/skullcandy-...adset/p/itmddgpfuzdqqfg9?pid=ACCDDEHY6HTHYMXA

Link: http://www.ebay.in/itm/Skull-candy-inkd-2-100-genuine-/300879492920#ht_500wt_1156

As my friend is coming from US Next Month I will ask him to get Wireless Charger and Bumper.

Now to get back to Indian Play Store replace you US address to Indian address in Google Wallet.

Then use any Indian VPN or Proxy servers and buy any app in Indian currency and then just refund.

Clear the cache of Google Play store App from phone. This will do the Trick

Feel Free to ask anything.

Thanks,

Piyush.
[Nexus 4 General] Shin2_D`:
Yeah, found that user and sent hime private msg. hope he replies soon:crying:
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
Arranging Menu items !new to android!

Hi

Just started playing with the device, and I could not find any option to arrange the apps in the app drawer. Whenever I long press on any app it brings that app to the homescreen.

I remember I have seen a friend create folders on android 4.0 .
[Nexus 4 General] balamu96m:
Yippe !

Dunno if you know it already.....

Google play now sells devices in India!

Nexus 7 is being put at Rs.15,999!

Just few months after books was launched!

The next Nexus launch will be revolutionary!
[Nexus 4 General] admin856:
Lucky for you your order got through. Google has started doing verification of all credit cards and payments made through indian credit cards is getting cancelled.
[Nexus 4 General] meher91:
Hey like you said, your playstore was changed to US one...do you think that if you order another one now, ur order will go through unlike many others whose orders are being cancelled..?
[Nexus 4 General] vaibkulk:
Mostly it wont mine got cancelled...ordered from the same account from which i had ordered before....
[Nexus 4 General] arjit mehra:
neah i think it'll be around 22-25 only..as the price of nexus 7 is 16k...so they won't charge more than 23 or 24 IMO...rest it's upto them..i just hope they dont charge more..as i'm planning to buy it this summer.
[Nexus 4 General] meher91:
but could you access the US play store without using VPN when u placed the 2nd order..?

i mean was ur acc. still linked to US playstore?
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
What logic have you used there? $199 device is being sold at ~$293. Assuming Nexus 4 is priced similarly, it will cost $293/$199*$349 = $514 = ~28K INR.

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I have ordered several Nexus 4 in the past using a separate account with all US addresses in it. Tried placing orders twice since March 15th but each one fails after 2 days. Frustrating. And yes, I can still access US Play Store without using proxy/VPN on that account.
[Nexus 4 General] arjit mehra:
YES!!!!!! now waiting for the nexus 4 EAGERLY!!!!!!! :D

Hope it costs around 23-25 ...will buy it this summer !!!
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
It's not just 199$ in USA. Taxes extra. India has 12.5% tax. 16k is including taxes. It's just 40-50 $ more. Nexus 4 if launched might be somewhere 400-450$
[Nexus 4 General] meher91:
too bad...I ordered one on 13th and am able to see the US playstore, was hoping I could order another for a friend...
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Taxes are taxes, don't include that in the device price. You can go ahead and add the $14 shipping charge if you like, but not all states charge taxes on devices purchased through Play Store.
[Nexus 4 General] vaibkulk:
Yes its still linked to US Playstore....haven;t removed the us address yet...
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
India doesn't have variable tax rates, that's why Google decided to declare an all inclusive price.

The price is X + 0.125*X = 15000 (excluding shipping)

Where X turns out to be 13400, roughly 240 $
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Go to the checkout page and you will notice that VAT charged is 0.00 INR, not 12.5% of anything. Shipping charge is not specified separately either, it's included in the 16K, not sure where you got the 1K shipping charge bit from.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
You obviously need to pay VAT. It's just included in that 16k that's why the checkout page shows zero. And shipping I assumed it to be around 15-20 $
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
So you're basing our argument on assumptions? Well, I'm not. Also, I simply cannot argue with you when it clearly states "(includes VAT ₹0.00 INR)" in the checkout page yet you argue that Google is secretly charging you VAT on an unspecified amount and is lying to you.

I fail to understand how one would presume a $20 shipping charge when they're using FedEx/Aramex with an estimated delivery time of 3-7 days.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
So you're saying Indian Government, won't charge any tax on sales of a tablet?
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
I'm saying nothing. I'm simply making a price analysis based on current facts. If you have a problem with what Google is saying, take it up with them.
[Nexus 4 General] rbrblitz:
I'm yet to receive my Xtremeguard screen guard... Twenty days and counting..
[Nexus 4 General] andymandy:
Guys never deal with DHL when you are opting CGW/HSG because there customs duty is always fluctuating. IF you read all the posts of this thread you will find the same. DHL has applied high customs comparing to Fedex.

to a guy fedex has applied 3300/- for 2 phones & for one phone Fedex has applied 1800/- where as DHL has applied me 2777/- for a single phone by adding basic custom duty, counter vailing, additional duty & handling fee. which equals to 2777.

So I advise you not go with DHL if you are dealing with CGW/HSG. for sure your box will be opened & you will get a surprise customs charge. Also I didn't receive Play bill & CGW bill.
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
No your making a price analysis out of your arse to suit your agenda .

Because which ever way u look at it its only about 3k more than what it would cost in US .

Which is fair considering its being imported here and im sure there some other costs google has to go thru to sell the devices in india , simply at the end of the day its leagues about anything sold in India at similar prices.

US price is 199+15+24 since most states have taxes which roughly comes up to 13k , Add customs to that and its a very fair price.

PS: people have already bought and there is no shipping and VAT since its included in the price of 15999/- already just because website shows 0 VAT doesn't mean there is no VAT its just prolly easier to list it that way since Indian consumers according to current Indian e-commerce trends aren't used to paying taxes other than listed price and shipping is free across 90% of major e commerce websites
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
LOL. You guys are funny.
[Nexus 4 General] meher91:
Hey I think I will go with @berz and @adidas007 on this one...

When you shop something on myntra.com or jabong.com, you see the final price which you will be paying and in the bill, they break it up into actual price and various other taxes...but that does'nt mean that they are not paying any tax...believe me Indian government does'nt leave anything, you have to pay tax on everything...

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google might be selling this at a higher price...but if you were to order it one your own and import from US, it would have cost you same or even higher as tax on this item is about 20% and with the added advantage of warrenty...
[Nexus 4 General] anmolbedi:
So if Google launches nexus 4 on Indian play store, would our devices bought from USA get honoured for warranty here? Does Google follow apple policy or otherwise?
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
No one knows yet :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] admin856:
Ok guys. Now that Google has started canceling orders using non US credit cards what's the best way to import this phone?

Comgateway/hopshopgo - 10 percent buy for me fees

Use estropay - not sure if google can still decline this

Jodopado

Ebay USA

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Well you can always verify bill of entry provided by customs for the charges if you suspect they are duping you.

But in general dhl ends up paying more customs. FedEx for me once imported 2 8.gb phones for meagre 900 bucks customs.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
I shop international. They charge 24-25k all inclusive
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Google actually has nothing to do with warranty, Google allows a 15 or 30(am not very sure) days to RMA the product if it has any defects. After this window all warranty related issues are to be handled by the manufacturer, which is LG in this case. As long as LG honours international warranty, N4 will be serviced.

e.g Asus has international warranty, so no matter which place you buy a N7 from, you can claim warranty in India.
[Nexus 4 General] anmolbedi:
Hopefully LG goes Asus's way
[Nexus 4 General] nitin.chobhe:
You have to drag the app on another app. Then it creates a folder containing both the apps. Hope this helps :)
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
Thanks for the reply,but in stock android if we drag an app it brings the app to the homescreen.

I was searching for this on xda and found that the only way to do it is by using a third party launcher app like nova or apex.
[Nexus 4 General] nitin.chobhe:
Yes, it brings it on home screen and creates a folder on home screen. See the attached screenshots. You'll get what I'm saying.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
I guess you didn't get his question. He wants to make folder in the app drawer itself. It's not possible in the stock launcher. Try nova, next launcher 3D.
[Nexus 4 General] meher91:
can you rearrange the apps in the app drawer..?
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
Yes that is exactly what I meant and I got my answer by searching a bit more :)

I will try these launchers once I get my sim running. I had cut my sim to a micro-sim using a cutter tool but it doesn't work in Nexus. The same sim works in my previous mobile with an adapter. I will get a new sim and try again.

I know the problem is not with the device because I have tried with my friends sim and it worked fine.

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Now there is a new problem, the sim that I had cut stops working randomly in my previous phone too.

I think I messed up in cutting my sim
[Nexus 4 General] rbrblitz:
I had messed up my SIM card too... Got a new micro Sim from Airtel..
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
The sim card is behaving very oddly. I have a tamilnadu docomo sim and I am in M.P. right now. I again inserted it in Nexus, now it is getting network but of vodafone, when I try to search and select docomo as network the search bar keeps rotating but I am unable to select a network.

I don't think the sim is faulty, because then I shouldn't have got a network. God knows what is the problem.
[Nexus 4 General] rohit.r6:
Its getting stranger for me.....i got a reversal confirmation fo my nexus 4 from my bank however Google still shows order is under processing....wondering what to do now:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Call Docomo it might be some network issue on their side. I have seen my wife's Airtel AP sim behaving in very weird manner in my hometown in another state. Most time it works fine, but at times it will disconnect data, sometimes she won't be able to make any calls, sometimes no one is able to call her. So from my experience, it looks like network problem, if it was a Nexus issue you would not be able to connect even to vodafone, for a phone connecting to home network or roaming network is one and the same.
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
Yup, that's what I thought.

I tried manual network selection and from 10:27 the search bar is moving till now. I can see different networks but if I tap on the screen everything will be blank and I will have to start selecting the network again. Lets see till how long the search bar keeps moving.

Meanwhile I will call docomo, although I don't think it will help because while roaming the customer care is very bad in every network.

Thanks for the suggestion!
[Nexus 4 General] bliizzz:
I guess we could purchase the nexus 4 officially through the playstore in some days...
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
Google might surprise you with a free nexus!
[Nexus 4 General] admin856:
If they are not going to release it soon prices will jack up further.
[Nexus 4 General] lovesingh25:
Google just launched it's movie rental services in india

good to see that google is launching it's services in india

And that a good thing because i think we really had a good chance

Of getting next nexus launched in india also as now since google

Had launched it's services it will be easier to raise money and

Subsidizing nexus devices just like they do in u.s.a..
[Nexus 4 General] rbrblitz:
People in USA are bit scared of piracy, so they might use this service but you know us Indians ain't scared :D...heck... when I purchase any app from the play store my colleagues laugh at me :o..
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
There are lots of people like you. Even I have purchased lots of apps/games from Play Store. We are a country of billion plus. Even if a small percentage buys stuff it's enough to have huge volumes.

Am waiting for music service actually, I don't think I'll buy movies before state of broadband improves. Books yes, I will. I anyways buy physical books.
[Nexus 4 General] Vidar26:
VFM Case for N4

Hello guys, this is my first post here.

My Nexus 4 will be here after 2 weeks (asked my cousin to get it for me from USA), As we know back glass is prone to Break/Scratch, I want to get a Case/Bumper case and a screen protector for front.

But here is the catch, I don't want to spend more than 600-700/- on it.

Is there any chance i can get them cheaper From Karol Bagh etc in Delhi?

I saw one on Flipkart from Amzer for about 695/- but it has written "AMZER" on it in large text which i don't like. One for about 350/- frm amzer which is pure Ugly.

I have never bought anything from Ebay yet. but there is one "scratch guard+LG Google Nexus 4 E960 hard rubberized back carry case black" sold by "bigsale_bigdeal" for 578/-

I cant post the link coz i am a Newbie here.

Has any1 bought this 1? how is the quality of this case?

Or can anyone suggest something more VFM in this Price range??:)
[Nexus 4 General] admin856:
It's good. Go for it.
[Nexus 4 General] rbrblitz:
Ah yes, I would love the music service as well. The books are pretty costly though.
[Nexus 4 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members, warnings have been issued regarding the selling and or advertising to sell....I will ask you to read the Forum Rules on selling via the Forum and or PM system. Thank You.
[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
I think the desperation will only increase now since the play store route is off limits.
[Nexus 4 General] seltaeb:
I am waiting for the music service too, so that I can upload my stuff to Google using their music match thingy and stream my music. Right now I have to use Plex to stream from my home laptop (which works, but a cloud solution is better).

Books - pricing is comparable to Amazon, sometimes cheaper but mostly not. But now at least we have another choice!

PS: I too am amongst those who buy apps, books, music and now movies, yay!

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Back to the good (?) ol' days of getting a friend or relative buying stuff for you or picking it up only when traveling abroad :(
[Nexus 4 General] mrao:
Mine just arrived yesterday.. Had asked a friend to get it from the U.S... loving every inch of it.. Especially because it just cost me 21k for the 16gb version :)

Time to root :D
[Nexus 4 General] mohitgalaxy3:
guys i will get my nexus next week, so I want to enjoy it as stock for some time.

However I want to restore my apps data so for that I have to root it...can I simply flash superuser.zip from the stock recovery...

will it get rooted ???
[Nexus 4 General] vaibkulk:
Look for efrant's guide in the General Thread...

That is a very good guide and very simple...
[Nexus 4 General] ashishv:
NO.U also need to unlock bootloader.Use nexus 4 toolkit(sticky in development thread) and get ur phone rooted in 5 mins.It will format data and also wipe internal memory(sd card) contents.:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] pigbig842001:
And finally it arrived...

Finally it arrived on 26 March, 2013. It was shipped from Google Play on 12 March, 2013 and reached PPOBox on 14 March, 2013. Thereafter, PPOBox shipped it to India the same day. It reached India on 15 March, 2013 and was cleared from customs the same day. PPOBox shipped to me via Blue Dart Express the following day. Blue Dart Express returned my package to PPOBox the same day as my address was under their non-serviceable area (Blue Dart Express has delivered Dell Laptops to two of my friends in this same area. I wonder why they acted this way for my package). Now the real problem started. I gave PPOBox a secondary address and requested them to ship it through First Flight Courier. First Flight Courier refused to deliver my package since it was a mobile phone device. I gave them one more address of Blue Dart Express in Bilaspur (Chhattisgarh). And after some days after repeated follow-ups (I called them up close to a hundred times) they shipped it on 23 March, 2013. It finally arrived here in Bilaspur on 26 March, 2013.

TOTAL COST:

US $395.21 = Rs. 21683.20

PPOBox Shipping + Customs = Rs. 2412.00

Total = Rs. 24095.20

PPOBox could have been a little more prompt in rendering their services.
[Nexus 4 General] abhishekoza:
No Forex charges from the Bank?
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Is anyone planning to use Swappa over eBay to buy their phones now that the play store is off limits?
[Nexus 4 General] Shin2_D`:
iShopInternational

I have ordered Nexus 4 16GB from ishopInternational site. They gave a quote of Rs.24,577/-.

After my ordered got cancelled for 2 times in a row on U.S. Playstore. I decide to go with JadoPado, but the device price with shipping is $405. I heard that JadoPado package gets charge very high in customs Plus forex charge(3.5%). the total price wold go around Rs.25,000/-

So i lastly decided to go with iShopInternational where they charging me total Rs.24,577/-. I found this very reasonable as the device coming directly from US Playstore. :)

Anyone bought any device from ishopInternational? If yes, how is their services?

guys, will let you know when my Nexus 4 gets dispatched. they told me it will take 15 to 20 days to deliver. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
I hope you used the coupon 'firstdeal' for a discount of 500rs
[Nexus 4 General] Shin2_D`:
yes :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
Yes,he would have otherwise the price would be Rs 24977.

Moreover he could have asked for a 25% discount on international shipping charges. Ishop is currently giving 25% discount for international shipping as a holi deal.
[Nexus 4 General] Bluffyone:
For those who haven't changed to Indian play store, you will now hav the play movie and tv app that disappeared after u connected to Indian ip

Plus u hav transformer: dark of the moon movie plus falling skies and planet earth tv show pre added.

You can just stream and watch them for free
[Nexus 4 General] Shin2_D`:
They said we can't use 2 discount simultaneously. So i go for Rs.500 discout instead of Rs.200 shipping off
[Nexus 4 General] akhi.aka.g:
Ishop quick delivery techniques

Oh, I did not know that. I thought multiple discounts are valid.

Anyways 24577 is a good price for Nexus4.

And if you want a quicker delivery, follow these methods suggested by akhil.in

After you have waited for a week, call them and inquire the status.

Tell them your friends have received it within 10 days.

Call them once in two days.

Use their live chat option

Now these are some extra steps that I used:

Tell them you are a member of a forum where people buying nexus4 discuss their delivery dates, and by referencing, tell them you have seen some people's playstore's receipts. Check the official playstore delivery thread in xda and mention exact dates to them.

Tell them you are a member of a forum where people from India discuss how to buy the nexus 4, and specify them that you are an active member and your suggestion to others can bring new customers for ishop on the condition that your phone is delivered quickly. Let them know that you will advice people only if you get your delivery promptly, scare them a bit that if they won't deliver your device in a timely manner, you can even persuade people to not buy from ishop.

Most important of all : BE POLITE always.

Happy waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] Shin2_D`:
Thanks for this awesome tips.

I want the device after 7th April as my exams ending on that day. If i get before, i won't focus on studies anymore.

I would start calling them or live chat from tomorrow. Tell them to deliver them atleast within 10days from quoted 20 days.

Again thanks for this awesome tips :good:

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read this article: http://phandroid.com/2013/03/28/nexus-4-case-redesign/

Nexus 4 has some minor hardware design updated
[Nexus 4 General] zubin111:
Great Case

For those with clumsy hands and afraid of dropping phone and in need of a good, protective yet cheap case, this is it...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2120148

It is a link from another forum but the case is absolutely great and looks like it will hold some falls...

Got it through ebay.com for like 800 bucks delivered from US to India by the seller... absolute value for money.... And somehow i feel the phone now looks even better....
[Nexus 4 General] ashish2199:
Please

Can anyone provide me a coupon / voucher code for ebay using icici debit card

for gadgetshield nexus 4