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[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
^ sneaky I like it haha

Update on my RMA, Google have issued it without even asking questions when I said my camera seemed to be rattling "The camera rattling is very clearly a hardware defect and I can issue an RMA for you straight away." I believe it's an advanced replacement, I've been given instructions on how to return my device but have already been ordered a replacement one from NSW (I live in Melbourne) with a shipping estimate of less than a week.

I believe that when I receive my device, I will organize the return of my old one since I've been given a 21 day window to return it but I'm not sure where it has to be back too in that 21 day period.. Google? The shipping company? Singapore? LG?
[Nexus 4 General] AkaGrey:
Does someone know when the n4 will be in stock on physics store in the australia? :v
[Nexus 4 General] Mischaseb:
2014
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Thats also when my bumper will ship strangely enough.
[Nexus 4 General] Teknozeus:
I can't help but think that judging by the sales in the US and the incredibly long wait time for both versions, it will be even longer for more stock to arrive in Australia. Relatively speaking we are the smallest market when it comes to the release countries. Logistically, I think Google will devote all it's production lines to ensuring the US demand is satisfied first and foremost, closely followed by Europe...It pains me to say as I was one of the unlucky ones but I don't see any hope on the horizon soon...such a shame as I really wanted a pure android experience. Is it worth such a long wait however...real shame.
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
HAHA! :laugh:

I'm still waiting on the bumper as well. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
Geez is that all? I'm waiting on the ability to pre order!
[Nexus 4 General] EvilStevious:
I was all excited about the Nexus 4 thing, but I think it's time to pull the plug on the idea. There's no stock, Google are refusing to give any hint about when stock will be available, they won't take pre-orders, and if by some magic we can place an order in the near future, it seems that we'll be stuck in limbo and can expect 8 week delivery times. Sure, a few people have their Nexus 4, but for the majority of people wanting to get one, it's effectively vaporware :( I've been needing a phone upgrade for a while, an S3 is less than $100 more than an N4 and can actually be obtained. It might be time for me to jump ship :(
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
I want it because I have always has a Nexus in the past two years. I want 100% working stock. Google really stuffed up here. They need to up the price to stem demand.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
don't give up and jump ship to the S3 wait an extra 3 weeks before you even consider it. I came from the S3 and I firmly believe that everything about this phone is an improvement and I wouldn't want to spend $100 more for a phone that has had it's development halted since the Nexus 4 was announced. When codeworkx rage quit from the device because of lack of exynos support, that was the time everyone should have sold up that phone.
[Nexus 4 General] mrxd:
He likes to troll rage quit sometimes, gets him plenty of thanks when he comes back :)

Over the last couple of days with entropy etc. he has managed to get CM 10.1 running on the SGS2 (I9100) which is as bad if not worse than the SGS3 (I9300).

https://plus.google.com/111398485184813224730/posts
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
It's so FRUSTRATING. If Samsung released the PROPER sources for the GS3 it would be an AWESOME device. I'd have picked it up over the Nexus 4. I want 100% working stock vs the latest handset.

Wish more manufacturers released proper source code, if not more stock phones!
[Nexus 4 General] mrxd:
I went through a htc hero, then sgs2 before getting my nexus 4. I had enough grief with those 2 phones to learn my lesson this time around :)
[Nexus 4 General] adster13:
I'm almost ready to pull the plug as well and get a different phone.

I'm still rocking a Nexus S running AOKP and it still serves me quite well, however I purchased the phone back when I was on optus so didn't get the 850mhz version. I'm now on vodafone and often only getting 2G indoors as the phone can't pick up their new 850 network and their 2100 band sux. I will probably switch over to telstra when I get a new phone. But I need a new phone ASAP as it's my main connection to my emails throughout the day.

Maybe I'll just get a second hand GNex to tie me over for a few months. Also I'm not 100% sold on the Nexus 4, hearing a few people having various issues and also have seen a few peeps saying the back glass cracks fairly easily?
[Nexus 4 General] mrxd:
I've had mine since launch and thrown it around a bit and not a scratch on it. The people having problems are obviously being vocal about it, and rightly so. I don't think the faults are disproportionate though. If everyone who hasn't cracked a screen started a thread it would get very noisy. I'm very happy with the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Had since launch and a few problems but none that shouldn't be expected from a new device launch. I bet just as many people are vocal about iphone 5 issues (and a much larger user base too) but since they have a physical outlet to complain too we never hear about problems.

Our community is more specific and the device is targeted at a more internet centric crowd so of course issues will spread faster.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] demon507:
nexus 4 availability

anyone plz give me an idea when n4 will be available in aus play store?? plz..

my friend will come to india on 22JAN..

will he be able to pick one for me??
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
Never.

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At least you could get your hands on an iPhone 5 in store. You could also pre order.

Not a single world from Google. It just ****s on its users.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
I think I remember reading that offline purchases will be available in Jan 2013 so your friend should be able to get one from Scorptec or JB HiFi or any other retailer before they come to India in a worst case scenario. You won't be able to get it repaired by Google if you take this route though.

When Google realize their nexus range is amazing.. they will start realizing they need to spend more money on management of their stock.
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
My car cradle install....

Samsung s3 cradle

Brodit Garmin 18mm ball mount

ClicOn car specific mount
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Just got my RMA tracking number.. delivered 5th and arriving 10th.. why is it so quick this time?!
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Im just on the phone to Google now. Asking when I'm likely to get my bumper.

Won't be before the end of the world.

It's a "known issue". They're expecting them to ship within the next few weeks. Replied with "so I should get it early next year". Rep responded that they hoped it'd be before that. Given the Christmas rush/offices being closed and that it's already the 7th I find that unlikely.
[Nexus 4 General] Grandpipe:
wtf. I was sure i'd get up this morning to an email saying round 2 of sales would be on for this afternoon. Waking up disappointed sucks.
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
i sent an email asking about my bumper and i got a reply this morning saying that it was delivered on 19 Nov and that i need to open a lost \ stolen case with Google. i think they have gotten confused between the bumper and the actual phone. they are hopeless.
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Yep!

my rep was umming and ahh'ing. then put me on hold to speak to a colleague. probably to find out what to tell me.

Thing is I rang last week and was told that if I didnt have it this week to call back.

The thing hasnt even shipped yet, and Google don't know when it will actually ship. Id be ok with it being on backorder if they could say that it will ship on X date. The response "call us back next week for an update" is rubbish.
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
i now have a FedEx tracking code for my bumper ordered on 13nov.

put in the last half of the Google play transaction number into FedEx tracking site and it has my bumper shipment listed as'initiated'as of yesterday.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I have a tracking number too, hoping for delivery on Tues or Wed
[Nexus 4 General] Ruprect:
Ahh bugger this, So sick of waiting for the Aussie play store. Going the US shipping route....... Google your communication sucks
[Nexus 4 General] :
Shipping email from Google for the bumper :)
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
i just received mine a minute ago too.
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Seems like there are a few shipping emails going out - also received mine. Woohoo! :D
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Bumper has shipped!
[Nexus 4 General] wisey18:
My bumper has shipped also. Estimated delivery is Monday :)

Bumper case has arrived! :)
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Mine has arrived today too. ETA was Tuesday
[Nexus 4 General] EvilStevious:
4 weeks later, still no stock of the Nexus 4, nor any indication of when stock may arrive again (if at all). I am needing both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 for development work, but neither are available for sale. So, do I get the Samsung equivalents, or do what everybody I know tells me to do and abandon Android and go to Apple?
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
its frustrating but I'm sure more stock will available soon. in the meantime could you purchase a galaxy nexus and flash it with yakju/takju 4.2.1 images from google? its available for little over 300 bucks now.
[Nexus 4 General] EvilStevious:
I suppose a Galaxy Nexus is an option, but I'd rather not spend $300 with a mind to spending another $400 on a Nexus 4 - it'd be far cheaper to just get a Galaxy S3 and be done with it. I'm not sure how soon "soon" is, either. I've sent numerous emails to Google asking this very question, and they have all been unanswered. Frankly, as a customer I'm rather tired of being treated as somebody of zero importance. I've never dealt with a vendor who has treated their customers with complete and utter disregard before :(
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
I don't disagree. Google have a lot to learn. I was one of the lucky ones who got a Nexus 4 in Aus, however I'm still waiting on the bumper since mid November and they are crap at answering questions. I had heaps of responses to my emails that don't even make sense or are unrelated to my question.

As for the S3, almost everyone I've met who hasn't managed to get a N4 has got an S3 instead. They are apparently a good phone.

EDIT: my bumper just got delivered.
[Nexus 4 General] andyrobb18:
fishman18

Don't get an S3 - having had Samsung devices and then gone over to Nexus, I would never go back. Touchwiz is crap, and even with customs roms, lack of timely updates from Samsung will kill you. S3 is getting updates now, but as soon as the S4 is out it will be yesterdays news as far as Samsung are concerned. And certainly if you're a dev, then Nexus is the only way to go.

But I hear you - I cannot believe how bad google customer service is. I have a Nexus 10 16gb that I ordered on 27th Nov and was confirmed for 3-5 days shipping, and this has now gone on back order; it took me ages to find out what was happening. I'm not desperate as its for Xmas anyway (they've said it should be fine), so as long as it turn up by the 24th then I'm ok with that. They're also refunding delivery. Fyi Mobicity have the Nexus 10 16gb listed as in stock and its only $30 premium, so worth considering if you want to order now - it my backup plan if google f#ck up any more.

And the lack of Nexus 4 updates is appalling - we don't even know if it'll be back on sale this year, everything is pure speculation until they finally deign to let us in on their secrets. I know several people who are desperately hanging on. This is Xmas, people have money to spend, and google are just sitting on their hands. Just some simple updates would keep people happy, let them decide how and when to spend their money.

For me, I've decided that if I can't get a Nexus 4 ordered & delivered before Xmas then I'm just going to hang on to my Galaxy Nexus and wait it out until the next Nexus comes out. So that'll be another 2 sales (me & the missus) that google have missed out on.

And don't even get me started on accessories....

And this is from someone who loves android and my nexus devices...way to go google.
[Nexus 4 General] dbareis:
Its $130 extra then postage on top, they love the play store...
[Nexus 4 General] andyrobb18:
fishman18

No, its an extra $30 - $499 from mobicity, $469 from play store, and the postage is the same for both, at least for Sydney. I can't post the links, but just google it.

I'm not pushing them and I'm happy to wait, but at least they have stock and its a minor markup compared to other suppliers.
[Nexus 4 General] dbareis:
Sorry I thought it was for the Nexus 4 :)
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Replacement was shipped quickly (took 3 business days) and is.. better. Still rattles though not as badly as what my old one did. No longer noticable rattling when I type in quiet areas.

Figured it was time to try apply my BestSkinEver screen protector. I currently have the back applied and will probably do the front when my revised cut one arrives.
[Nexus 4 General] andyrobb18:
fishman18

Yeah, their markup for that is pretty steep - I certainly wouldn't jump in at that price, and they don't have stock anyway. But at least they'll answer your emails and tell you when they will have stock...google could learn a thing or two ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Received the bumper today. Not overly impressed with it. Went back to using my slim cover which provides far better protection.
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
can you post a link to the slim cover please. im considering getting a case instead of using my bumper.
[Nexus 4 General] Ruprect:
Got the ****es, and ordered through US play store. Status went to shipped 8 hours later despite 6-7 weeks quoted. Now in transit to Aus. $420 to my door for a 16GB. Just an option for those impatient like myself....... psyched:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] andyrobb18:
Which forwarding service did you use?
[Nexus 4 General] shayne77:
Sick of waiting...

In today's day and age and with one of the biggest companies in the world and you can't even place an order for a device to ship at a later date. EG: Ship whenever the bloody thing becomes available.

I'm buying this... it has the same specs (cept wireless charging) and is rootable etc. CM10 runs fine on it.

http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/lg-optimus-4x-hd-p880-white-android-phone/
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Hey Australians, Brit here (I know). Seems we're all getting the same treatment from Google.

I've created this form to get as many numbers as possible and raise an official complaint to Google Play regarding their lack of info over the holiday period, the whole thing is just stupid. The hope is that if we have a large enough number of people, they will take notice and start communicating rather than wrong or no info at all. Be grateful if any of you have had problems could fill it out...

https://sites.google.com/site/nexus4cr/

People who had problems in the first round can still fill it in retrospectively in order to get the message accross. Spread the word if you like :)
[Nexus 4 General] EvilStevious:
Hi Smadger, it's great that you are trying to do something to highlight customer dissatisfaction to Google. However, your site doesn't quite cover the situation we are experiencing in Australia. As it stands, we've still only had one purchasing round, on November 13. There's been no other chance to purchase the Nexus 4 (or Nexus 10) since this date, and there is absolutely NO word from Google as to when this situation would change. Furthermore, there was no notification email sent to people who had registered to be notified when the Nexus 4 went on sale - instead, the device spontaneously went on sale at a little bit past midday, and sold out about 20 minutes later. That's it - no further word has been sent from Google and enquiries made on this matter have either been ignored or answered in a way that may as well be gibberish.

How such a huge corporation can fail so monumentally in basic retail skills escapes my comprehension.
[Nexus 4 General] Hravz:
Us Play store

Just a question for those talking about buying from the US play store. How do you go about it? and what extra cost is there?
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Sure - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261132686816

Really nice cover. Slim, soft to touch, fits nicely. I really like it. Purchased another one today. :good:

Took just over 2 weeks to arrive though.

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Found another one exactly the same as above but slightly cheaper - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/160938535561
[Nexus 4 General] :
Ditto...
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
+2

I'm just about over this waiting game too. Google might lose another couple of customers I know. No big deal to them I guess but if 10000 people feel the same way then it will.

My one x is great phone anyway, n4 is sounding like it's a downgrade now and the desire to own it is slowly being replaced with f you google and LG.

Buzzing speakers on all phones not just n4? Really. I've not heard it on other devices and yes, I have sensitive hearing.

Crackling in calls. Not on my current phone.

Cameras rattle on all phones?? None of my phones have before.

Average to good quality photos and video.

Might be an upgrade for previous nexus users but a step back from sgs3 and htc one x I'm assuming.

C'mon Google. Honeymoon's nearly ova
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
The only one of these that I'm noticing is the average photo quality - light dependant. On a nice sunny day, photos are great. In a dark room or under artificial lighting, like inside a house, they are average. Otherwise, I'm really happy with the phone. Wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.
[Nexus 4 General] aaurelio:
Does anybody know when the next batch of nexus devices is going to be sold in the play store in Australia?
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
Nope, unfortunately there has been no information from Google.
[Nexus 4 General] cERMLAS:
For anyone else struggling to get Data connections working for the Nexus 4 on Optus, the "APN Type" needed to be blank for me. This is contrary to the 'default' or 'Internet' values that are suggested on the rest of the web or by Optus customer support.
[Nexus 4 General] Nark.GA60:
No problems for me using Woolworths (which uses the Optus network).
[Nexus 4 General] Ruprect:
Tumbleweed rolling thru this thread......

Its a good bit of kit guys, worth the wait......

even if that wait is till March
[Nexus 4 General] EvilStevious:
Given that Google only sell three devices and can't supply two of them, I'm not sure I even WANT to purchase a Nexus 4 anymore - I don't want to reward appalling customer service (seriously, this is the worst I've ever seen from a multinational company) with cash and loyalty. Plenty of new Android devices coming out, if it wasn't for immediate software updates I can see no reason to stick with the Nexus 4 anymore. Heck, I'm even tempted to move development to Windows Phone 8 just to get away from the Google insanity.
[Nexus 4 General] Mischaseb:
bought a galaxy nexus for 200 bucks second hand because i got impatient after selling my OneX. Will probably wait for a google influenced motorola device if they start running vanilla android.
[Nexus 4 General] mattnotley2004:
Same here. Bought a cheap Galaxy Nexus to replace my faulty GSII. I've decided to pass on the Nexus 4 and see what Google bring in late 2013. Seems like the next batch for Australia may be a while away yet, and the way US/UK customers were left in the dark is pathetic... Google could have done much better.
[Nexus 4 General] Mischaseb:
yeah the nexus program is really only just getting going, as you said it'll be interesting to see what arrives this coming year.
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[Nexus 4 General] saveferris91:
I don't really give a stuff what the back looks like, it'll most likely end up in a case anyway. I just want to be able to buy one, shiny back or not.
[Nexus 4 General] ASavva:
Anyone heard anything about the phone being back in Stock yet or an estimate?
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
Unfortunately there has been no news regarding the Australian Google play store.
[Nexus 4 General] Cile90:
this is really getting annoying .....damn it i want this fone
[Nexus 4 General] saveferris91:
+1

it's been two months now with not so much as a hint from Google on when it may be back in stock. It really is getting beyond a joke.
[Nexus 4 General] Teejai80:
I got sick of waiting and got a RAZR HD, don't regret it in the slightest and CM10.1 is released on it!
[Nexus 4 General] satek:
I love my Nexus 7 but have also decided to give up on waiting for the Nexus 4... I'll wait for the Sony Xperia Z instead (Or something announced at MWC / Samsung events).

Maybe the 2013 round of Nexus devices won't be plagued by so many stock / pre order issues.

Till then :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
I've given up too, gone for the lg optimus 4x HD from kogan, $360 including delivery

This whole thing has been a farce, complete joke
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
Don't give up just yet....Hardly Normal claims to be stocking them next week.....

http://www.harveynorman.com.au/lg-nexus-4-16gb-black-smartphone.html
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
Too late for some now I'd say.

The fire has gone out.
[Nexus 4 General] Simmo3D:
If people are so desperate to get one and pay a little bit extra order from eBay. I just got a 16gb yesterday for $549
[Nexus 4 General] dbareis:
$519 from Kogan.
[Nexus 4 General] saveferris91:
*sigh* still a $100 premium over direct from google...
[Nexus 4 General] Mael5trom:
I ordered from Harvey Norman.. Price has never been my main concern, just warranty, if they are getting Australian 16gb stock with local warranty, that's good enough for me. 1 week to go.

Mind you, I will cancel that quick fast if we get word from the Playstore any time soon.
[Nexus 4 General] shayne77:
How did a company in Australia get stock before the users of Australia? I thought Google would look after the people (the community... the supporters) first before a Corporation?

$399 for the 16gb aint it? so $496 at Harvey Norman aint that much of a premium really (when you addon $20 to $399 for delivery?)
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
Yeah right.
[Nexus 4 General] EvilStevious:
Kogan is now down to $494 (plus $19 delivery).
[Nexus 4 General] 6i9:
I've skimmed through the last few pages and used the search function but haven't quite found the answer I'm after.

I've been using an N4 since the first batch came out. I use Amaysim (Optus 3G Network) and the reception in my area (Northern Suburbs, Sydney) always shows H/3G with 3 or 4 bars. As of late-December I noticed my phone's data connectivity was terrible. I have followed the APN guide set by Amaysim and also used the 'APN Type' method suggested by someone a few pages back but it hasn't done much for me.

For example; when using WhatsApp, someone may send me a message at 9:10pm and it'll only arrive on my phone a good 15-20mins later. The same goes for outgoing messages, there will be a slight delay between me hitting send and the message actually reaching the server.

Am I the only one who's experiencing poor data connectivity? With my previous phone, SGS1, I had zero issues.
[Nexus 4 General] NIK516:
Looks like stock will be coming in around Feb, Harvey will have them so will jb HiFi. I'm assuming they will have them in the play store at that time also. Can not wait I'm sick of Samsung and the plastic phones they are producing.
[Nexus 4 General] xdatastic:
who said jb hifi will have them? harvey norman are claiming to be "Exclusive Australian Authorised Retailer" according to their web site.

edit - i see another thread about jb stocking them. lets hope so as some competition will be good.
[Nexus 4 General] ianleet:
Anyone on Crazy Johns with this phone?