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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jrcbandit:
I'll let you know today ;p. I am giving them a choice, either get me a different phone or transfer my Evo 4g LTE service back to an old phone I still have so I can then sell the Evo 4g LTE on Ebay or Craigslist and then pay off my ETF and go with AT&T or Verizon for reliable LTE. LTE is live in my area, I bought a phone with LTE in the name so I can actually use the network as the 3G is horribly slow in Houston. I have given Sprint months since LTE went live, so there is no excuse any more about the new network launch. My friend's Galaxy S3 connects to Sprint LTE in all sorts of places my phone does not.

I did already speak to technical support on the phone (supposedly level 2, but I think she was lying to appease me hah), and I have an escalated ticket for the problem but no idea if that will help me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
They keep closing my tickets even though it isn't fixed.

Sent from the EVO 4G sometimes-LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grad20_09:
The problem is two fold because the LTE network is not fully deployed.

Although I completely agree and understand your comparison. You could also compare the EVO LTE to any first generation technology that has been released. There are usually more problems when they make a major body change to cars. Anyone willing to be a first-generation adopter/buyer deals with it. To say that the EVO LTE is the only phone with issues is ridiculous.

A great example of this would be when Apple changed the design of the phone and had antenna issues depending on how you held the phone. Does no one remember all of the Apple blunders? Another example: Apple releasing their own maps application. Anywho, first generation technology. Or at least first generation of that "body-style".
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RobertBohannon:
I'm in the Houston area and I have no LTE issues at all and 3g isn't fast by any means but its not 0.15 I will pull 1.5-2.0
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
Network being fully deployed doesn't mean anything. Don't let them sell you on that one. Think about it... Sprint's network will never cover 100% of the Sq mileage of any market.

Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thronnos:
Just ROAM until they cancel your contract :P

Shifted from the Twilight Zone
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ph33zy:
I experienced this first hand yesterday driving around in LA. Granted, LTE isn't officially launched in LA yet, but I would've never known it existed without this thread. I never picked up an LTE signal until I toggled airplane mode and even then u would only connect for 2 min or so before being switched back to 3g.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] grad20_09:
Re-read what I said. I said it's one of two factors. A- the phone B-the lack of coverage. The issue doesn't occur unless you are on fringe 4g coverage or switching to 3g coverage. So if the network was fully deployed it would be

less noticeable and less prominent.

I read an article somewhere that said that the it could be due to what the EVOLTE is made out of.

By your own train of through, let's theoretically say the network coverage was 100% LTE... The issue wouldn't occur. Does this mean that there is no issue because it doesn't occur? If the issue was there but never occurred (because you have 100% lte coverage) then you wouldn't even know it WAS an issue. Obviously there are TWO factors that create this issue. The two factors: A- the phone and B- the network coverage.

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I only notice it if I'm constantly on my phone (and I am most of the time). There are times where it gets confused whether to connect to LTE or EVDO, and then either doesn't connect at all or connects to 1x. Usually just switch to CDMA only mode and the issue goes away and it sticks to 3g.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
If I'm correct here....It's not that its a poor LTE performer its that its a poorer RF performing device compared to others in general... So the issue effects regular signal overall, you just won't notice it as much as LTE because LTE dropoff over distance is a lil more than cdma/evdo... But in general the RF of the phone is lower which effects all signals not just LTE...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] pbedard:
Can't that be fixed with an ota

cm10ed 3VO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
I'm willing to buy that. I get way more dropped calls and "no data connection" (something I never got with my og EVO).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fishpony:
So how many people have been able to get their evo swapped for an S3? What did you all have to say?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
If they got swapped they probably won't be in this forum anymore.

Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
There's no need to buy it as the FCC docs showed it I believe...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jrcbandit:
My phone is getting swapped out on Tuesday, but they were really reticent to do it. I initially called and got an escalated ticket, then went to a corporate store and had to convince them. After testing the phone for 1.5 hours, I came back to the store and they said they would switch it out. But I am going to have to pay a $35 fee since I dont have insurance with Sprint. Also, they definitely wont let you pay an extra $100 to upgrade to a Note 2. It was another Evo or the S3.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bsims85:
My phone connects to 4G and usually drops back to 3G shortly after like most people. I downloaded Notification Toggle and enabled the 4G toggle. It places a 4G option in the dropdown menu. If you select 4G from the drop down, it opens the 'Network' menu. The default option for LTE is CDMA+LTE/EVDO Auto. I changed it to LTE,CDMA and my 4G hasnt dropped yet. I havent determined what the drawbacks may be, but its working. I'm thinking it may disable the ability to connect to the internet during a call if not connected to 4G. Its worked well so far.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
It disables EVDO.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] budeone:
I'm in lombard il and the map shows I have lte. I can get 3g once I'm a while. Lombard is 20 miles from Chicago.

sent from my lte waiting for lte
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bsims85:
Yea, i kinda figured it would. I guess at least there's an option to maintain a 4G connection when I'm in an area where its available.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] c5satellite2:
The majority of these issues are network related. Sprint is in the middle of a massive project involving existing leased towers and their own new towers, partially upgraded backhaul, partial LTE 3G mixed data coverage, and a whole new infrastructure to run it all. It will be 3 years+ before it is truly complete, but it will be getting better every day as more backhaul and sprint owned network equipment comes online.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] EdhyMonker:
No, the majority of these issues are not network related, they're phone related.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
It will not be 3 years by any stretch of the means... Less you are counting LTE Advanced, 800MHz LTE, and VoLTE in your time frame... Those all are additional things added to the main overhaul so I wouldn't count those...

Also backhaul is either upgraded or it isn't, there is no "partially upgraded" less your counting the bandaid T1 lines they did on some sites... That's totally separate from the fiber/microwave/AAV backhaul that will be used at all sites during upgrades.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Anthonicia:
So, would it be possible to mod the LTE radio on this if it comes down to that? Thought I had heard before we have same radios as the S3 but if not then I'm sure we have identical to one x. Or at least at first it was supposed to be just like the one x but sprint told HTC to make room so they made the radio smaller?

Idk what part is true or not, but question is, would it be possible to put in a one x LTE radio or S3 radio?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
And here is another one that drank the koolaid a tier 1 CSR gave him to get to the next call.

So all these network issues only cause issues with the EVO LTE?

And reading your message again, I see you have no idea what Network Vision is really about.

Sent from my EVO sometimes-LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] regalpimpin:
Someone else try this so I know I'm not smoking crack.

Here's the deal.. Sense roms. Pick up LTE, but drop it far to soon. This includes at my house, covering the antenna, or walking 5 feet. It may drop back to 3g intermittently. Good battery life though overall.

Then on Decks builds.. I can hold LTE much stronger. When I'm at my house, girlfriends house, or parents house. I have LTE with 0 drop outs.

But at work, in this odd twilight zone. I should have LTE but our phones just can't pick it up like the s3's and iphones. On all the cm10 builds that I know of, they have issues with eHRDP and the handoff between LTE and 3g. Mainly, you could pull your phone out of your pocket and it won't show any data until you try doing something. Then it may connect to 3g, may not..

I was leaving work with only 50% battery left because it was unable to connect to 3g consistently.. When on sense roms it would be somewhere in the 80% range.

I pulled the Sprint connection manager from an s3 rom.. and installed it after seeing someone else suggest that they did it and had LTE 30 miles outside of Chicago.. I know, but curiosity got the best of me.

So I install this app, and no longer have the issue of it not connecting to data, or sitting there trying to connect to 3g. It's been instantaneous since. The app itself does try using wifi quite often, less and less the more it isn't there though. So I forgot all my wifi networks so that it wouldn't automatically connect if it did find one and I just turn off wifi as I notice that it's turned back on.

But I swear, ever since I installed this the handoffs have been immediate, much like the sense roms except that they still hold LTE longer.

Also, I'm leaving work today not at 50% remaining battery, but at 85%. (currently running decks 11/4 build)

Here's the apk, copy to system/app and set permission to r w -, r- -, r- -, and reboot. You will then see the connection manager listed under settings->apps->running. There will be a process and a service running.

About 5-10 minutes after the reboot, I got a pop-up to either accept or decline the connection manager.

Someone else wanna see if you have any better results. So far this is the best data my phones seen yet. Battery life alone seems to throw out the placebo argument.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
So this wont work on a Sense ROM?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] regalpimpin:
The sense roms already do to good of a job maintaining 3g so I don't see any benefit. I haven't tried it, although it should work the same way. Not sure if it would help pick up lte.

On the aosp builds they don't always want to connect to 3g or make the transition between the two and this app seems to help it decide. I haven't picked up the phone since and just had no data in my office building, which was a common occurrence.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
to bad there's no app to get them to connect to LTE!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] djconundrum:
Ok so the best results from the evo lte is installing the sgs3 connection app. Then make sure to be on sprint only no roam at all. This works way better for keeping the lte on and not switching to evdo or another network just lte and sometimes evdo.

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But I must say getting lte in the warehouse where I work when no one gets a bar is sweet. But I left HTC to go back to Samsung after six years. :confused: Reception is awesome but I hate the phone build. Its like a kids toy meant to be broken.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] c5satellite2:
Since you have absolutely no clue as well as others about the actual infrastructure, how it works, or wireless technologies,maybe you should rethink your statements. Have you ever deployed wireless equipment, point to point, star, mesh, fiber, backhaul, or any other Telco equipment? No you haven't, I do. Before you slam someone who actually has knowledge of how the networks actually function, get some REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE instead of complaining and making statements that are unfounded.

THESE ARE NETWORK ISSUES, PERIOD.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PATIENCE TO WAIT UNTIL SPRINT FIXES THESE PROBLEMS MOVE TO ANOTHER CARRIER.

I HAVE THE EVO LTE DEPLOYED IN SEVERAL MARKETS FOR CUSTOMERS AND IN SOME AREAS THERE ARE NO ISSUES, SOME AREAS ARE MISERABLE.

HERE'S A QUARTER BUY A CLUE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] LaloHigh:
I'm assuming you have a EVO 4G LTE?

I'm showing to be blanketed by lte in my area according to the sprint web site. Yes I know I am blanketed by lte because I have confirmed lte by comparing other phones and they don't drop lte here in my house. So is this still a network issue causing my EVO to drop lte and not drop lte on the other devices?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] parmend:
I have the evo and the gs3 and the gs3 holds connection far better than the evo . Ive had 4g 95% of the time with the gs3 . Maybe sprint or HTC needs to tweak the phone to the network heck idk . But all I know is my gs3 is 100 times better in picking up 4g than my evo .
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
I think he means to us novices, a network issue that only affects one model of phone seems illogical. No need to take it personally.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] subhumanderelict:
I’d like you to take your argument to S4GRU.

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/forum/18-htc/

First, I’d recommend reading the following threads to get an idea of what you’re up against:

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2152-evo-lte-serious-problems-or-bull/

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1644-htc-evo-lte-connection-issues/

Robert (S4GRU) and AJ (WiWavelength) are both extremely well-versed in the testing and implementation of cellular technology, especially Sprint’s 4G phones and infrastructure (it’s an entire forum dedicated to it).

Second, you’re going to want to ignore your CAPS key as that forum isn’t for people who scream in an attempt to make their points sound more valid.

“'cause you shout loudest don't mean that you're right”
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
I haven't been on to complain in a couple weeks but I will reiterate my previous points that have caused me to throw my hands up: I'm buried in a STRONG LTE area. Inside my house my EVO LTE will connect connect/disconnect (most of u know what I'm taking about ) in perpituity-while the lady's S3 sits pretty on LTE all day when she's at home..even in the basement for Christ's sake. And this is a replacement only 2 weeks old. Sprint mlnot willing to allow me to swap for an S3 either, even provided through email an entire video illustrating the scenario I just explained. But hey, I've only Been a customer 11 years...I'm very glass half full as the majority of my posts will illustrate on the past 5 years , but I am so sick of the run around. I was very patient here only to be stonewalled from a company I've dumped tens of thousands into. At a loss here guys. Wish I had better news/advice/help cuz I could personally really use some myself.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roids87:
I'm right there with ya. When you have the EVO LTE 2cm away from a Galaxy Nexus, the Galaxy Nexus is connected to LTE and the EVO LTE is not connected to LTE. The Galaxy Nexus is connected to LTE at -94rsrp, I toggle airplane mode on, on the EVO LTE, and then toggle it off, all of the sudden I'm connected to LTE at -94rsrp.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
We all know its defective. What's pur recourse ?? they sent me this replacement and now just repeat and repeat about it must be the network enhancements and to be patient even though they have CLEARLY been done here.. I've never felt so...scammed!! !!! I paid $700 for this damn pipe dream of a phone. I'm all ears here of you've got any ideas.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roids87:
Unfortunately we are screwed, atleast till Sprint decides to fix it. I can't see it being too heavy on HTC's shoulders as it is on Sprint's. Hurry up and wait ;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
Roids are u in chi too? Wtf not like were s major fing city here lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] drob311:
More than likely not, because the LTE radio is built into the s.o.c.

Sent from my EVO using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] GoldenGlove:
So has anyone had any luck getting them to exchange this phone for the GS3? If so, what is the best way about going to do so?

I have LTE in my area, and I've noticed, like many of you that it is not consistently connecting to it on a day to day basis. I rooted my phone recently and was going to play around with the roaming settings to force it onto a Verizon PRL, but then I just thought, about getting a GS3 instead and seeing how that works.

I've been on the LTE network plenty of times (when the phone connects) and I've satisfied with the speeds when I'm on there. But I'm tired of dancing around and toggling the radios just to get it to connect to LTE. There's a Sprint Store in my town which is swimming in LTE, sometimes my phone connects to it and other times it just doesn't. I'm thinking about going over there and showing them what I'm talking about. But with my luck, when I go in, the phone will act flawlessly and find the signal.

:(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Randy D:
Please don't yell at each other. It drives members away. I see 2 related issues to the ***** fest that is going on. Number 1, Sprint is rolling out LTE which isn't an overnight thing. I do have some experience with this. It's a pain in the ass. That's why it's not official. We keep tapping into a system that isn't operational yet. Number 2 the antenna on the HTC sucks. The original Evo never had that. Since I went to the Evo 3D (bought it for the processor) and now the LTE. I've had to use an airave to boost the signal. With that being said. I do get LTE 14 mbps In parts of LA and roaming at work prl 25009 is a blowtorch. Never had that signal strength before. That's what keeps me in the middle on this argument. Nobody is right or wrong on this one in my opinion. If you want the quickest LTE market, move close to USC or Stanford. Who are there consumers? Hahaha. Troll away. Bored anyway.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] GoldenGlove:
I have a question for those on a Stock Sense ROM.

I'm currently on 1.13651 software version, I rooted it last week, but I went and unrooted it because if I take it into a Sprint store I didn't want them to know I had modified it. I'm contemplating on updating to 1.22.651 OTA to see if it connects to the LTE any better than 1.13. For you guys on 1.22 did you notice better LTE connectivity compared to before?

I figure that if I take it into a Sprint store they'll update the phone anyway and see if the LTE works.

Also, even if I go to 1.22, is there a root for it? If I'm stuck with the phone, then I'll root it again.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] banccalif:
I just got my pop up.. Let's see how it goes! Thanks
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
Anything other than the very latest OTA with the latest PRI (not PRL) and the other pieces is very bad for LTE usage. They did improve it somewhat since the first release. Do not just flash the modem without the PRI and other pieces.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fishpony:
Just installed this. I have very noticeable connection problems so ill know right away if this helps at all. Ill let you know.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sslbaron:
I'm giving this a go too. I've been seeing a lot more LTE lately, but my phone's been have issues switching between LTE and 3G. I'm hoping this will help with this issue. I'll let you know.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fishpony:
Still the same for me. Looks like that mostly deals with WiFi.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
What's wrong with LTE? These r consistent for me inside and outside.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
Nothing. We're all delusional. Your experience is the only experience that matters.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] subhumanderelict:
It's not the speeds that are the problem; it's the phones' ability to stay connected to LTE when compared to something like the Galaxy S III.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
Well I don't disconnect from LTE unless im moving out of an LTE area. I have been checking since I saw this thread and I stay on LTE when im at home on the first level or at work regardless where I am. Not sure if its just signal strength or what but I don't see disconnects.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] regalpimpin:
Lucky you live in good areas.. Mine is the same, in that it connects solid at my house, my gf's house, and my parents house. No issues at all.

Except at work, where every other sprint phone I've activated has had lte with no problems.

And when you say you're moving out of an lte area, your phone drops the signal, well if you had one of the other sprint lte devices with you at the same time, they wouldn't drop out for another 5 miles. And if you happen to live in that 5 mile area, you'd currently be screwed.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AliLaPointe:
So is everyone just waiting for a fix instead of trading the phone for an S3? Im trying to figure out if it's worth going in store to swap for an S3 or if I should just wait. Thoughts?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sslbaron:
I'm going to wait out out. I'm hoping that it'll get better as the network improves too.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
I wouldn't sweat it until LA gets more LTE coverage
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
I left and dont regret it.

Sent from my SPH-L900
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sslbaron:
Trader...lol.... :p j/k
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
Then why u still here? LOL
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leerage:
Because he got rid of his EVO LTE and got a S3 he can't come to the EVO forums anymore?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
No actually he can do what he pleases. Just seems odd you get a brand new phone, and instead of playing with ROMs for the new phone he still trolling in here. But hey, perhaps there aren't many ROMs for the S3 yet. I was just curious.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Steve5400:
Whether or not you are ok with all the issues that the evolte is having. The bottom line is that there's no happy medium here. You can't get consistent reliable coverage with unlimited data. You have to pay more and accept limits if you want data you can rely on. You just need to decide what is most important to you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] digiblur:
Correct. My other family member got a new phone. The EVO LTE. So I still have the phone.

Sent from my SPH-L900
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
Does that mean Sprint exchanged the phone for an S3, you just bought an S3 with your own money, or you switched companies?

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Well, they're saying that with an S3, you can.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ipclark1:
Exactly. I can shoe you a video of an S3 pulling down almost 25MBPS, while my EVO LTE connects then immediately disconnects to 4g and then cant even complete a speedtest. Showed this to sprint and they were awesome...They explained how unfortunate that was, and that many factors could have influenced what they saw there ( continious shot here, and seriously who would waste there time with slick camera work on a cause so insane) and it in no way reflects the majority of LTE users, and blah blah blah...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
Wow. I'd make a video but I don't know any Sprint S3 owners.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] swaze:
Just sat here for a half a day with wife's gs3 and my EVO....both LTE signals held the same length inside and outside. Speed tests the EVO had higher speeds most of the time. So the problem is not with all phones.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] leebo:
So you sat there? In the same area?

Try driving half a mile or so. At home, I can get LTE out front. Inside? I can't even get 3G.

I think it was a mistake to put "LTE" in this phone name. But the beauty of it is, by the time Sprint says their LTE network is built out, most EVO LTE owners will be ready for an upgrade anyway.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mannyboy23:
Well I just said f it and bought an s3 now i get 4g and better 3g qt my house and work and with my evo all I barely got was 1x and very slow 3g anywhere that i went