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[Nexus 4 General] IndDoc:
So just to confirm, *every* debit card will be debited twice? Is that right?
[Nexus 4 General] clifford.desouza:
There might be a one-off case of it not happening, but then 99% of the times, yes.
[Nexus 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
Google will not include bill in the package. You will have to take printout of your google wallet receipt or email receipt. Google does not include receipts with any of their shipment of any product. They have always been in the form of email receipts.
[Nexus 4 General] IndDoc:
Guys, quick update about the debit card getting charged twice situation. I emailed Google about this issue and this is what they had to say -

So it turns out that debit cards are not charged twice. It's late and I cant access any ATM right now to see my balance or talk to the bank. I'll update if any new info comes to light.
[Nexus 4 General] mvivekc:
Customs applied on Diztronic cases?

Ordering Diztronic Case online from their main site. They have delivery to india - Std 9$ USPS service charge!!. ( 12$ for the case and 9$ shipping ). My question is - Will I have to go to customs to get it cleared?. Would custom people prevent it from reaching me ?.. I had read that anything below 2000/- Rupees - No customs will be applied. Does this apply to couriers as well?.

I'm giving Bangalore address.

Any help appreciated.

Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
I thought that limit was Rs.10000, not 2000. IIRC, any gift that is valued under Rs. 10000 is exempt from customs. But I'll wait for someone to confirm this.
[Nexus 4 General] X0LARIUM:
Mera phone kab ayega...

Its departed the Heathrow Facility...don't know when it will land here.. :(

Sent from my DROID RaZr on JB.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
You can Google the flight durations from Heathrow to any other city.
[Nexus 4 General] X0LARIUM:
Ya but I don't know where will it be going next no..I think Monday it should b here..it says 2-3 business days...

Sent from my DROID RaZr on JB.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
It flies to the city of delivery.
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
The blizzard in the USA is horrible. ..so guys shipments can get a little delayed depending on the place in US

scribbled from "the phab" (the note 2 -N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
Mine flew from Portland(West coast) to Cincinnati(East coast) and then to UK without any delays.
[Nexus 4 General] mvivekc:
Can anyone confirm this?
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
http://www.bluedart.com/imports.html#GS
[Nexus 4 General] ckranjan:
as gift its 10000. without gift its 2000. you can import any un-restricted product upto 2000 without any customs. i have imported alot of ps3 games under 2000 and never charged customs.
[Nexus 4 General] KartikBavisi:
Reply must (urgent)

hello Guys need HELP (urgently),

i want to buy this Cell but i dont kno about this hopshopgo.com is this a secure site ?

i mean is there any problem for payment & delivery ?

i dont hv credit card so can i buy though PUNJAB NATION BANK'S DEbit card (is there any Additional Charges DEBIT CARD for this )

& how much amount neccessory in Account for this transaction FROM DEBIT / CREDIT CARD?

CAN I USE OTHERS'(FRENS) CC THROUGH MY ACCOUNT?

is there any other charges for this in india (like Duty & VAT & others) ?

Is there any PAYPAL charges for this Transaction?
[Nexus 4 General] ckranjan:
use the search function. if you have any other query then ask. why dont you start with the first post of this thread.
[Nexus 4 General] Earayil:
Page 616..and you ask this ?? Common bro read the op and a few pages at least.

Yes the site is safe.

Yes you can use debit cards.( read through posts to find the trouble ppl are having with that)

Yes you can use any CC
[Nexus 4 General] Prady777:
I wasnt charged twice, I made a purchase with ICICI Debit card on 30th Jan, It was dispatched on 5th Feb. What happened with me is, they charged me with 1.3INR when I tagged my card into google wallet, then when I purchased 2 x 16gb nexus phones, my account was debited of 43,538INR on 30th Jan, and while my devices were shipping out on 5th Feb, it was again debited with 1.3INR and to my surprise, they have refunded me 88INR on 9th feb. I think the reason behind the refund is stronger INR value against USD at the time of charging VS time of authorizing.
[Nexus 4 General] rakeshdev:
I'm thinking of selling my iPad2 and getting nexus 10 from play store. Does it makes sense guys? Only drawback I see is no 3G data connectivity in nexus 10.
[Nexus 4 General] Ankit Tulsian:
The only issue will be warranty which nexus 10 will not have.
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
Yes rupee was indeed stronger during that time and in your case the shipping was done within a week and hence the original authorization hold would have been valid. That is why you were not charged twice. :) For current orders, shipping estimate is 2 - 3 weeks and people are having Feb 27 as the estimate. In this case, it is better to have twice the funds just to be safe.
[Nexus 4 General] saptak1990:
Nexus 4 case/ screen protector

All you folks looking for cases, I've come across quite a few sweet deals on DealExtreme. It's apparently a Hong Kong based site and ships all the products for free globally (yes, India too!). And most often you don't even have to pay customs either. And the best part is the price. Just have a look at the few examples:

Soft translucent TPU case - $2.30, Hard Cover case - $2.50, Pair of screen protectors - $2.30 etc. (All inclusive!!)

And TechTree says they've found it to be pretty handy - so I bet it's safe too! Is this the best site to import, or what?!! :D (Too bad I already bought mine on eBay!)
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
Guys, I found something from delhi customs....check this site for more info

http://www.cbec.gov.in/sms/sms_q3.htm

You can send an SMS to the number with your airway bill no. and it will update you. I dont know if it works, but its worth a try.:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Earayil:
case or bumper?

Hi Guys

Should I go for a hard case for the Nexus 4? Or will a bumper case do the necessary. That is, will a bumper case protect the device in case I drop it.
[Nexus 4 General] rakeshdev:
Hurrah!

Sincere thanks to all the forum members of this thread. After soaking in all the advice and reading through pages of threads, i ordered my Nexus 4 on Feb 1, 2013. All went smooth without any hurdles. Got it through HopShopGo.com with Express shipping. Today its with DHL delivery boy. Paid some 19.3k to Play Store (without Bumper). 1.5k to Hopshopgo for Express shipping, Customs and Octroi, if any will be known today when DHL arrives at my door.

Waiting for the beast.
[Nexus 4 General] indianets:
I just called and they said Rs 1460, my shipper is HSG and its N4 8GB with a declared value $299. The best part is it arrived at 5:45PM Saturday in Delhi and cleared customs at 8:09PM same day. But the tracking has not been updated after 10-Feb 6AM after it has been departed from Delhi.

==========

EDIT: All accessories questions should go to this dedicated accessories forum -- http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1910 -- this threads looks quite Indian now :) :) full of off-topic noob questions after page 600 :)
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
Did they update your tracking page, as well? or just verbal confirmation?
[Nexus 4 General] blackhaty:
My Shipment is on hold and pending for physical inspection.

Hope google kept invoice in shipment box.

Monday, February 11, 2013	Location	Time

15	Shipment on hold	BANGALORE - INDIA	4:11 AM
[Nexus 4 General] jaiswalsachin:
I want to buy one.

Is it a 16 GB?

The price is around 21K when purchased through these services.
[Nexus 4 General] indianets:
Words from their CC, and they said they have an invoice updated in their system which shows this. Also, as the package is cleared and moved out of Delhi, this is all I have to pay.

I guess, not-updated tracking is just because it was Sunday and people in Kolkata (including me) are much more casual and slower than the others when it comes to professionalism.
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
If you dont mind, can u post screenshot of your dhl tracking page?
[Nexus 4 General] indianets:
Sure, thank you for asking :)

EDIT: I again called up in excitement and they said it would have been delivered yesterday only had that be a weekday. It will be delivered today anytime after 11 AM as they confirmed.

It has been updated now, will get in a few hours.
[Nexus 4 General] mukuntharajaa:
Yeah I did that. In fact I have raised a ticket with google and also citi and keep sending mails to both of them.

Google says:

Its just an authorization hold and they have not charged my card as such. So I had to contact bank for releasing pending authorization if any.

Citi says:

There is no authorization concept as such for debit cards. They are seeing it as a clear valid transaction and its approved by me and they cant help any further.

If someone who actually used debit card, double debited and if you have got money back please let me know what you guys did .
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
For me, there was no Google invoice. Only the Google Play delivery/packaging slip was inside the box. (which does not show the cost)

No HSG related invoice as well.

Got the customs invoice from DHL delivery guy.
[Nexus 4 General] blackhaty:
Thanks for reply. Did you send invoice to DHL?
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
No buddy, I did not send anything to DHL.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
Did the invoice state specifically how much customs was charged on the phone and the bumper, if you got one? And was there any other chargers mentioned other than customs?
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
I have a feeling that people who have got the phone and bumper are the ones that customs are doing physical check and opening the package.:( and I have got both the phone and bumper.
[Nexus 4 General] indianets:
But I have read this thread and it was appeared to me as it's DHL with HopShopGo / comGateway, it's likely to be opened and if it's FedEx with PPPBox, it's not. Though, I strongly believe, it's just the matter of luck as none of the shippers are attaching any *visible invoice* on package.

In India it's must to display the invoice outside the box, you get this every-time you shop from Indian websites, and hence they open it to confirm I believe.

I just got the delivery of Nexus 4 after writing this post. It was opened, I did not order any bumper and it was HSG and DHL
[Nexus 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
This is why I do not recommend using debit cards for international purchases online. In many cases, credit card is safer. Anyway, there is no need to worry too much. If google has cancelled your order, money will come back to your account in 3 to 5 business days. Our bank customer care is useless sometimes. The customer care guys many times have no idea about how online transactions actually work. With debit card your account will be debited immediately even if google tries just authorization. That is how debit cards work. As there is no credit on your card, the only way to ensure you actually have money is to debit your account. Sometimes if it is case of preorders or back orders, the authorization falls after certain days if there is long time between order and shipment as retailer fails to claim the transaction within that period. Hence you see 2nd charge when they actually process your order and actually charge and claim the money from your card. The previous charge in such cases as credited back into your account after few days. So it it nothing much to worry about but as it is real money that is immediately subtracted from your bank account, things like this can be big inconvenience at times when you actually need that money for other things.
[Nexus 4 General] rakeshdev:
Case/Bumper Help

Guys,

Can anyone suggest, good cases/bumper which i can buy in Mumbai. I'm okay buying either through eBay or any store.

Thanks in advance.

Rakesh
[Nexus 4 General] sunhoww:
man, i also ordered both. that is, before i knew the customs charges were more for accessories. my shipment's been cleared through delhi customs though and i hear they have a knack for charging more than their counterparts in other cities. i should be receiving the package on valentine's day.

i'd be a tremendous help to know how much the customs are (for the 16GB model and the bumper from play store) from someone who'd face this same scenario.

btw, i'd used HSG.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
IIRC, the Blue Dart website mentioned that the physical checks are random. There's no pattern to it.
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
It'll be a total of $385 or so.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Around 390 USD. Wouldn't hurt to assume 400. Won't cross 400 for sure.
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Is anyone using any of the shipping sites like shopngo or MyUS to ship the phone to them? I'd like to know. Only then can I buy the phone.

Also, which credit card are you using?
[Nexus 4 General] shishirasm:
Hi dude... We discussed that day about MYUS... So why aren't u choosing Borderlinx instead of MYUS??? & on the 2nd note, m from Mysore & Interested to get it...

Would you be ordering a Bumper Case Also???
[Nexus 4 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
what indian time it will go live in US ???
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
MyUS seemed to be the most used and the one with least bad reviews, so I decided to go with it. I'm only going to order 1 bumper (for myself).

http://www.thetimenow.com/pst/pacific_standard_time
[Nexus 4 General] rhut_tiger:
Hey i am in bangalore and want the nexus 4

what price are you planning to sell?

give me your facebook id we'll chat on that
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Let the order go through first buddy. :)
[Nexus 4 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
I am most unluckiest guy coz i have no confirmation of my frnd whether to ship his sister of US or not, guys i have no clue what to do now !!!!!!!

what tools what methods you going to do ?
[Nexus 4 General] rhut_tiger:
I some how have the feeling that it will not be sold out in hours it will last for 2days atleast

and please can you tell me how are you ordering i am not able to link my debit to wallet

my uncle is coming next month i can tell him to get it but i have to order

i tried via vpn and tried to link my card but not successfull
[Nexus 4 General] TheQuarterMile:
I am so confused whether to buy the Nexus 4 from the Play Store or wait for the India launch... :(
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
is it mandatory to add credit card to google wallet before ordering???
[Nexus 4 General] iamXD:
Nexus 4 BACK IN STOCK !!!

Yes its back in stock ... Google has been sending mails to its users about its availability .. here r the details ::

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2412526,00.asp

I hope it gets available in India soon .....
[Nexus 4 General] TheQuarterMile:
Yes and make sure the billing address you use to add ur cc to the Play Store is in the USA
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
Since our's is Indian CC, do we get any problem in placing order??
[Nexus 4 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
I am most unluckiest guy coz i have no confirmation of my frnd whether to ship to his sister of US or not, guys i have no clue what to do now !!!!!!! I have no idea what should i do now,

BTW what tools what methods you going to do ? to buy it ? Can borderlinx hold my product & ship it to my frnds sister if she say yes to ship ?

what about your card ? tell your card details i mean debit/credit etc , which VPN ?
[Nexus 4 General] rhut_tiger:
i am using freehostedvpn dot com for vpn and my debit card sbi is not linking its an international visa debit card
[Nexus 4 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
Really ? some people said it should work, I have ICICI international visa debit card ..
[Nexus 4 General] Prady777:
Google will ship in 4 - 5 weeks!
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
2 days? It was sold out in under 2 minutes. My order never went through, kept saying "Due to high demand, your order could not be processed". X(
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
If it has cleared customs, call DHL 1800 11 1345 and they will tell you the charges.
[Nexus 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
If you want a simple case, just buy this : http://www.ebay.in/itm/261134025777#ht_2565wt_906

I like it better than S Line series. You can get this and then order anything premium if you wish from ebay.com sellers which has much better variety and better designs and cheaper than those available on ebay.in. But those orders usually take 2-3 weeks to get here, so better get something cheap here locally first.

The one I mentioned here is not premium, but it does not look bad and it fits the phone perfectly. So it is great stop gap solution or even permanent solution if you need just simple case.
[Nexus 4 General] sunhoww:
thanks a lot, man. i called them up and found the customs to be 1703. :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] mukuntharajaa:
Thanks for the info. Even I am hoping for that to happen. Its been 5 business days since google has cancelled the order. Google told it may take up anywhere between 1 - 14 business days for auth hold to revert back to our account. I have to wait for another 10 business days :(
[Nexus 4 General] vettijack:
BLUEDART (Bangalore) contact number needed

The customer care number provided at Blue Dart website for Bangalore is 25021234, but the number is found to be invalid. Can someone point out the right number to contact Blue Dart at Bangalore
[Nexus 4 General] vsajan:
Ordered the phone on "Feb 3rd" Still on "Pre order " Stage :( ...!! :confused::crying:
[Nexus 4 General] D3LeT3:
Orderered 31st Jan. Still in Preorder

Hey guys just to update you'll on my situation and to see if there's anyone else in a similar situation,

Well basically there are no updates and that's why I'm worried. Im actually contemplating placing an order for another Nexus 4 cause I have this sinking feeling Google's gonna let me down and cancel the order for some reason or the other.

It's been 12 days and not a peep from Google regarding Shipment of my Nexus 4 to HSG neither a "Google has received your mail".

What do you guys think? Is there anyone else, who ordered on 29th, 30th 31st of January who still hasnt received Shipping info?
[Nexus 4 General] mannu_in:
My shipment was cleared from customs on Saturday and today I came to know that custom duty for two phones(8GB and 16GB with total value of $648) is Rs. 3450 which is ridiculous. Is there any email or phone number where we can complain about this?

Actually Rs. 3450 was total charges(DHL Express) which includes Custom Duty(Rs.2060)+ Counter Vailing Duty(Rs. 1010)+ Handling(Rs. 350)+ Taxes

In this breakdown, counter vailing charges are for expedited clearance(in express shipping) from customs. So guys if its not that urgent, I suggest don't go for expedited shipping as there is just difference of 3 or 4 shipping days but in normal Economical Shipping, you can save these Counter Vailing Charges.
[Nexus 4 General] 'thunder'rocky:
guys i was wondering....with the current credit card issues coming forth in the media is it safe to still go ahead with this procedure...i wanna go ahead but am afraid of being victimised :(
[Nexus 4 General] D3LeT3:
wow! They've charged you duty at over 10%. Did you attach the invoice and make sure your forwarding service marked the package as "Cell phone" and not tablet or something like that?

Check out this link for Customs Grievances http://www.cbec.gov.in/grievances-log.htm I havent used it but just googled and reached it. It basically forwards you to the Grievance form for all departments of the government.here:

http://pgportal.gov.in/Default.aspx?useraction=ZlCzjqQAuSVSjCwQ

Don't expect any quick responses though.
[Nexus 4 General] gkrishn:
finally after about 4 days held up in bangalore customs, my package has been cleared.

8xxINR is the duty that has been charged.

phone + bumper, shipped over DHL from comgateway.
[Nexus 4 General] clifford.desouza:
Its Google of all people, so you need not worry. Go ahead, buy that beast off that goddamn Play Store!
[Nexus 4 General] Murukesh:
Exactly. By that logic, you cartainly can't trust anyone until you can actually hold the phone your hands (and maybe not even then, judging from some tales I've heard in Bangalore). That said, can anyone in Chennai tell me how long customs held up their phone(s)?
[Nexus 4 General] clifford.desouza:
Why the encrypted customs charge number? Nuclear code, maybe? :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] gkrishn:
Quoted 850+ by the DHL CC. I don't remember the exact amount, as I have not yet received the package.
[Nexus 4 General] Murukesh:
Bah.. the encrypted part is the part that's swallowed by our dear customs officials. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] chaitanya87:
Does anyone has the invoice from the customs? Hopshopgo or Dhl ones will be very helpful.

Need invoice from the Delhi customs people. Bangalore one's is perfect. Thanks to Diablo..
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
Wow! that's a very good price after seeing the recent updates. Congrats!

You ordered phone + official bumper from play store? How much did you declare in HSG?
[Nexus 4 General] chaitanya87:
Yes its indeed good. Bangalore customs may delay your product but they are calculating the customs in a right way. i don't know what is the problem with Delhi customs.
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
Reading this, I could not help but LOL :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] gkrishn:
It is comgateway.

Yes, ordered phone + bumper from play store. They are in single package. The declaration was for 368$.
[Nexus 4 General] rakeshdev:
DHL Invoice i got today...damn Octroi

Find attached. Its a Zip File.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
And thus begins my wait for customs clearance. :(
[Nexus 4 General] X0LARIUM:
Hey all...

This is very funny. BorderLinx repeatedly assured me I won't have to pay anything on delivery. Now DHL ask for more money for customs clearance. Why I ask. Is this right? Is this how it is supposed to be? BorderLinx have told me they will refund the money as per the receipt from DHL. But why this additional step of taking more money and then refunding it? Does it even get refunded?
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
Did your payment to Borderlinx include customs?
[Nexus 4 General] X0LARIUM:
Yes of course. They said "everything". Is there a way I can check what all have they charged me for?
[Nexus 4 General] pakure:
Guys. .getting the nexus 4- 16gb through ppobox. ..the package has arrived in Mumbai and I have paid 1359 inr as per the invoice sent by ppobox. ..I live in hyderabad. ..will I have to pay anything else to the delivery boy? .

Please ppobox users. ..reply soon. ..expecting the delivery tomorrow :D

scribbled from "the phab" (the note 2 -N7100)
[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
I have shipped 3 phones n a bumper with them. Never paid anything extra. The first time I asked dhl about customs, they checked n said it doesn't apply to you, it's pre paid. The dhl guy left the package at my despatch section(office address) n went off everytime. Confirm with them y this is happening.
[Nexus 4 General] Murukesh:
If it's in Mumbai and you're having it couriered to Hyderabad, I guess octroi might come into play.
[Nexus 4 General] ShankyJain:
Welcome to the league. I guess both of ours getting shipped together. Mine too at Indianapolis and expected delivery is on 13th Feb @ 8.00 PM IST.
[Nexus 4 General] vettijack:
Yippee

N4 in my hand!!! Will update soon
[Nexus 4 General] Di@blo:
Awesome. Mine was the exact same and I got charged 1051 in Bangalore. You are lucky. ;)

Let's hope for the best :)

Not a single penny more! :good:

Duty shows $0.00 ??

As per their cost calculator which I checked last month, Borderlinx charges prepaid customs. How come it shows $0.00?

People who have used BL - could you please confirm this?
[Nexus 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
It wont. Octroi is applicable only if final destination is within Mumbai or cities within Maharashtra that have octroi.

Most shippers like DHL, FedEx have their regional hubs in Mumbai, so lot of packages land here. BUt as long as end destination is out of Mumbai, there wont be any octroi charges.
[Nexus 4 General] sheik_yerbouti:
You could either call up DHL and ask for it, or wait for the invoice to be delivered and check it. I think there might be a difference in product evaluation between Borderlinx and the Customs dept. Maybe DHL is asking you to pay the difference. I'm not sure.