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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
From their site description:

Ultra Crystal and Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors are both clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Crystal has glass-like surface coating with the best resistance against scratches. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants.

So I guess they look the same?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Jin486:
I actually just tried cutting the back since I am getting a replacement since it got revised. It isnt that hard to cut the top round edge if you mark it correctly. The only place I found it was hard to cut out was at the speaker. I just ended up cutting a chunk on the bottom corner because I didn't care since I have a case on it. Just wanted extra protection if sand somehow got in between the hard case and the phone. Well I am glad that I put it on though because it is protecting scratching from my camera area
[Nexus 4 Accessories] PK24VNI:
Screen Protector SGP so high, however this don't very good same money :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] llblwskydrgn:
I guess I'll try cutting mine up when I can find my xacto knife...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] inseconds99:
Do they have a back available or only the front on Amazon, I can't seem to find front and back on there? I see it on the official site but I want to order from Amazon as I have a CC from them for EZ shopping lol. These protectors looks nice.

EDIT: Found, ordering now will check back when I get them.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] lookitzjohnny:
here you go http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Pr...2630&sr=1-7&keywords=nexus+4+screen+protector
[Nexus 4 Accessories] inseconds99:
I dunno if I should order that or Rearth Ringbo Screen Protector. Anyone one have experience with those?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DrakeSlayer:
what makes you want to get this product instead of wrapsol's full body protection stickers ?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] inseconds99:
Never heard of this product. what makes it better?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Gja88:
I ordered the ringbo ones but plan on returning them. They have no cut for the proximity sensor or the camera lens for the back. Never installed them because if I did you can't return. Best I don't try my luck.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mayurolla:
So I have not heard anything from Spigen yet, thinking about having my CC charge back now.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thephantom:
Got a reply from them that they'd be shipping a new set of protectors. From the trail in the email, looks like the response time is 4 days for every email sent to them
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
After applying a wet one, I may want a nice dry one instead.

But I guess I missed all the discount and coupon thing...

Also is the oil resistance one the same clarity as ultra clear One?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] strra:
i'm mainly worried about the curved edges on the screen. i'm worried that the protector will be slightly smaller than the screen to accommodate or that it will peel up on the edges...

can anyone ease my worries?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
It doesn't cover the edge
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Roxy:
Yup it doesn't cover the edge... I don't think any dry application does.

Here's a picture of ultra crystal on N4

( Left phone )
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ssskom:
got my protectors today....yayy....err...nooo...

they mixed up my order with someone else's....I ordered a front & back combo but they sent me the 2 x front protectors...

sigh...spamming them complaint emails now...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Toaster Strudels:
The front/back protectors stink. They are extremely small, leave a LOT of space to the sides. Very disappointed. They attract fingerprints like a ***** as well.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] smithwicks:
I agree. Especially the front protector. They cut it way too short on the sides.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
It is clearly stated that it does not cover the edges and I think there was picture here or another thread of SGP showing the real photos..

They have the 3D technique..but they don't make one for N4.....:(
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tysj:
Make it any wider and you would be complaining about it lifting. There is a reason why it is cut shorter. This is like people trying to compare the Diztronic case to the Ringke Slim
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ssskom:
anybody has pictures with the back screen protector on?...they sent me a wrong order (i.e 2 x front)...sigh...just want to see how's the fitting at the back(?)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] smithwicks:
Their Amazon description says slightly smaller, which is misleading. I generally love sgp products but this one stinks.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ssskom:
exactly!. wasted my $14 on a half-assed done screen protector..seeing how skinomi gets good reviews here, gonna try dat for now. :silly:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
If I remember it right skinomi is a wet applied one right?

Wet one should easily get the exact size... but the clarity is not as good as a dry one
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ssskom:
yup. gonna try wet application.

Will trim the sides a black S-case so the curved sides will be exposed...easier for swiping :good:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
I am totally different from you, I took off the wet one and want a dry one lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Pheno.menon:
Ordered one tonight to use in conjunction with my Diztronic case, as it should stay on better than wet application ones (I actually have a BSE skin on hand but haven't put it on because of the case)

Transmission sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jtc276:
The back protector covers the entire thing and the cut outs are immaculate. I installed if on the first try. The front is also good. I knew it wouldn't cover the edges and anyone who thought it would is a moron. Plus, my $6 S-Line TPU case covers the edges anyway so it doesn't really matter to me. I have no idea why anyone is *****ing about this product. Spigen screen protectors are the best I've ever had and I'll continue to buy them for all of my devices.

Wet apply protectors are trash, in my opinion. It's nearly impossible to apply them without getting dust under the screen and if you accidentally touch the screen with your finger nail there's an impression left in the protector. But I guess they're cool because they cover those two millimeters of edge space every single case covers anyway.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
I hope you guys that have it can post more photos of it?

Still wanna see if the SP is really noticeable if it does not cover the edge..

(cox i really want a dry SP tho)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Dr Zoidberg:
Really nice picture of the front and back in the link below. The fitting on the back appears fantastic. If the front was any wider, people would be complaining that it's lifting off.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-spigens-steinheil-dual-front-back-protector/
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidfoshizzle:
Get some pics, I might order the same thing
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Emama:
I might use a wet-applied one for the back since it is less slippery.

OK, I can accept this :good:

is there still any coupons now? =p
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Richieboy67:
Wow, price seems so high for a set of screen protectors.

I got 3 sets for $6 on the EBay and I plan on just covering the back. This is only going to make the touch screen less sensitive.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Dr Zoidberg:
That's what I did. I put SGP on the front and BSE on the back. I'm very happy with the results.

Sure, I'd like the SGP to be wider and hug the curved edges, but unfortunately my Nexus 4 adheres to the laws of physics.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] elite_gamer04:
Currently tossing up between these or the Clarivue to use in succession with my new Diztronic TPU Case - anyone had experience with both?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Pheno.menon:
lol. there is a world of difference between quality screen protectors and eBay junk

Transmission sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] weysonn:
Clarivue has always seemed a little smoother to me for scrolling with my finger while SGP seems to have a harder coating.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] lookitzjohnny:
I found this out today when i was in the car, if you tilt the phone a certain angle the sunlight reflects off these 'dots' on the SP. You cant tell its there on regular usage but you will see them if you really look for them and only in the sunlight when you angle it a certain way. SGP did this to prevent discoloration from the UV radiation like xgear tempered glass for the galaxy nexus. http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/gnex-tempered5-162x162.jpg but like is said you will only see it if you really try and look for it in sunlight at a certain angle, you wont see it in any other settings.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] aimetti:
Take the protector off and do the same thing. You will see them still
[Nexus 4 Accessories] lookitzjohnny:
I guess its the screen itself and not the protector then. I never noticed, i always had a SP on my phone thats why :laugh::good:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FatalityBoyZahy:
How does this protector hold up with cases? I just ordered the Diztronic TPU case and I'm looking for a high quality screen protector. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Toaster Strudels:
I ask for a refund and they send a replacement. They must be morons or not understand English.

PM me if anyone wants the Dual screen protector (front and back) for $14 shipped.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thephantom:
Should be good because the protectors are cut smaller so with a tpu case, the lip won't lift the edges
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FatalityBoyZahy:
So it won't lift with the Diztronic case?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidfoshizzle:
Shouldnt effect it

HTC Evo V 4G F/S $150 (x2 extended batts,x1 OEM batt,x1 black trident kraken case,Zune headphones,8gb micro ad card)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ssskom:
got this protector today (dual - front and back) after they sent me the wrong ones (ultra clear - front x 2).

REVIEW :

1) I installed the back protector and its perfect! yea it has some slight offset (less than 1 mm) on the sides but the camera and speaker alignments are perfect.

2) The surface is smooth/glass like and there's this little "wet" looks when installed on the clear S-case but its very minor (because its still plastic), but not as sticky as XG. When I removed the case, it does not stick to the case and doesnt make the sound (when 2 plastic surfaces that sticks are "un-bonded") that XG has.

3) Just a small gripe on CLARITY of the back protector. For some reason, the protector causes loss of "disco-ball" effects on the back plate. I mean you can still see the small dots but they dont really glow when you tilt the phone at different angles.

Im keeping the front for later use as I have XG installed...reason I replaced the back one was because XG back protector started to bubble since it sticks to the clear S-case that Im currently using.

EDITED : my point (3) is inaccurate. After turning on the lights in my room, I can now see the disco ball effects again! it was the lack of light that causes it to lose the effects...i.e i was trying to see the effects under sunlight in my room.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] enviii:
I don't know of this has been mentioned yet, but I thought I would point this out since it caused me to waste 1 of the 2 protectors I got.

If you're applying on the front side, don't start top down like the pictures show because you will never get it aligned properly with the shortened width of the protector. The easiest way to do this (in my opinion) is to turn on your screen and start from the right side of the screen aka the camera side. Align it with the screen (hence the turn on your screen part) and then make sure it's aligned with the camera and the bottom button side and apply.

The first time I did it I started from the top like any normal person would think to do. I couldn't get it to align with the edges of the screen because the width of the protector is the exact width of the screen (not the front glass) . I messed up and kept trying again and again until eventually I got so much dust underneath that I decided to give up and throw it out.

After I got the second one on I realized that it's still not perfect for me, but it's good enough. The curved edges really make it difficult to put on a protector, especially for those of us that are anal about getting it perfect.

All in all, it's a pretty nice protector after you get it on. I barely notice its existence in appearance and feel. I got the clear by the way.

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I've noticed this on countless displays. Nothing to do with screen protectors.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] formicae:
I always do a two-stage application with dry-apply protectors, and I always get absolutely perfect positioning.

1. Do your best to get it on relatively straight without any dust underneath.

2. Take a piece of tape about an inch long, fold maybe an eight of it onto itself to make a non-sticky 'handle, stick it to the earpiece end of the phone, onto the protector.

3. Repeat for the other end.

4. Working from above, gently lift the screen protector, adjust it so it's perfectly straight, then settle it back down. You can repeat this as many times as you like; since you're only lifting it a few millimetres, it's very unlikely you'll introduce new dust here.

5. Once it's perfect, peel the tape off.

I realise that sounds like more than two stages, but it's really a) apply and b) adjust by lifting and dropping.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] enviii:
Seems a lot more risky to me, but idk I've never tried it.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Elsydeon:
Best method I've found personally on installing dry screen protectors is the hinge method. Did it for my last two devices and both installations have been perfectly aligned with no dust issues. Basically just align the screen protector perfectly, use several pieces of tape to tape and hold its position on one side of the phone, clean off all signs of dust, swing the screen protector upward on the tape (like it's hinged), remove the label, and gently swing it back down, and start scraping the bubbles out from the taped end outward. If this sounds confusing, just Youtube the method.

Anyways, so it sounds like having any screen protector will cause sticky issues with a case? I'm really planning on getting a clear hard case when they finally start making them, but if the screen protector will stick to it, I might have to change plans.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FatalityBoyZahy:
Is that the method which you used to install this protector?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Elsydeon:
I'm supposed to receive my Spigen Dual tomorrow, but I do definitely intend to use this method for both the front and back. I can't imagine trying to use other align-and-pray methods after I successfully did my first hinged installation perfectly.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FatalityBoyZahy:
Awesome, would you be able to make a video of you installing it? If all goes well, I'll be ordering it on Monday.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Elsydeon:
Just watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPqDwVZzzM
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ssskom:
thats exactly how I installed my back protector and the alignment is perfect!. Thinking of replacing my front but will wait until a decent/poetic atmosphere case comes out
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidfoshizzle:
Just got my ultra clear dual, good stuff just the back protector isn't the same size as the factory screen protector
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Pheno.menon:
Having minor top and bottom lift issues with my diztronic tpu and SGP ultra crystal, but most of the time it stays on.

Transmission sent from my badass Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FatalityBoyZahy:
Could you guys get some pictures up?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] androidfoshizzle:
I would but its already on the phone, these def feel like glass, much better than the factory plastic, everything is smooth can't tell it's plastic on the phone,.. BTW the glass on the nexus 4 doesn't leave finger prints
[Nexus 4 Accessories] enviii:
I have it on with the diztronic TPU and have no issues. Might post up some pics if I have time tonight.

Also I'd like to say that the screen is impossible to keep clean. The clear version, I assumed would be like the glass, where you get fingerprints and oil residue. Except this is like 10x worse. With the screen off it just looks terrible with all those fingerprints and other shiny crap.

Definitely considering oleophobic next time.

I should add that even though it looks really dirty with the screen off it doesn't effect anything with the screen on. You won't notice it unless you have a lot of light shining on to your phone with a dark screen or something.

It's also much better than any wet application protector. I was looking at my friends gs3 and the front protector looked like a friggin orange.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FatalityBoyZahy:
Thanks man. I'll be ordering mine tomorrow hopefully.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] formicae:
Got my replacement with the sensor cutouts today, popped it onto my phone (took me about a half hour but I'm incredibly OCD). It feels GREAT, absolutely like bare glass. Easily worth the fraction of a millimetre line on each side where the curve begins, and surprisingly in the right light the edges actually look okay, almost metallic. Also love the fact that they ship with dust removal stickers (four), a lot easier than folding and handling bits of tape.

If you don't like the feel of wet-apply screen protectors, I highly recommend it. Attaching pictures of the protector on my phone, bonus Ringke case corners, sorry for the crap quality. The rainbow effect in one of the pictures is not apparent in real life, for some reason only the camera picks it up (weird polarising?). And any specks of dust are definitely ON the screen protector, not under it.

Edit: Pictures didn't show for some reason, will post another reply.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] formicae:
Let's try this again shall we.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] nacy333:
Is all of the screen (except the cutouts) covered with your combination of screen protector and case? I'm looking into the same option as you as I'm currently using an XO screen protector and it lifts all the time with the Diztronic case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Elsydeon:
I got the Ultra Crystal Dual and installed just the backside, went with a wet apply Best Skins Ever for the front so that the front wouldn't have that "cheap cut short protector" look when used with a case (in my case, the LG bumper). This is actually the first time I splurged on anything other than a generic protector, mainly because Spigen was first to the market with a hard apply back protector. I did not want to leave the back bare, but didn't want to be constantly touching a sticky wet apply film on the backside of the phone either. Using the back as an indicator, I will say the clarity is quite exceptional. It is extremely hard to tell that there is a protector on at all, and part of it is because this is probably the first dry protector I've tried that doesn't have slight lifting issues at the edges near ports and cutouts. It is 100% flush all across the entire protector at every spot. I still see a slight rainbow effect at angles, but it is very minor compared to generics. The fit is about .5mm off around the edges, which Spigen does mention upfront as being deliberate, so as to make it easier to apply. I applied mine using the hinge method and got an absolutely perfect, trouble free application on my first try.

If there is a disappointment, it would be that the Ultra Crystal is not as slick and smooth as I was hoping a premium dry apply protector would feel. There are times where it actually feels stickier than the BSE front protector. Otherwise I am impressed by Spigen's product, you do get what you paid for, as well as a matching premium packaging. They include two hard squeegees and some stickers to let you remove any dust specks. I know that normally if you purchase just the front protector, they give you two of those in the packaging. I just have a generic protector on my iPod Touch 5 currently, but am considering buying a Spigen Ultra Crystal for it too now.

Now, if Spigen could make their Curved Crystal for the front, I'd totally switch over to that instead of my BSE.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mgymnop:
I have the Ultra Crystal and for the back of the phone it is fine but the front.... I don't know. It feels sticky and the touch sensitivity is for my taste too much reduced.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] justanut:
The oleophobic version has picked up multiple scratches over the past 2 weeks that I've had them.. whereas the normal crystal version on my iPhone hasn't picked up any scratches.. wonder if the oleophobic version isn't as well built?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] sph3x:
I think by far this is the best place to see the actual product

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-spigens-steinheil-dual-front-back-protector/
[Nexus 4 Accessories] arik100:
is it really worth the price vs the xtremeguard?

it's tripling the price for the same product...

what's the differences?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] TecQuality:
Guys what's the main differences between the crystal and the oleophobic versions?;)

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Muale:
one is clear-transparent and one is a matte finish
[Nexus 4 Accessories] formicae:
Not with Spigens it isn't. They use an actual oleophobic coating rather than satin-finishing the film. Both are optically clear.

Spigen's oleophobics are slightly softer (easier to scratch) than the Ultra Crystals, but they are easier to wipe clean.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] micks_address:
which is the best to go for?

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/SPIGEN-SGP-S...ting_LaptopAccessories_RL&hash=item4170c0cb38

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/SPIGEN-SGP-S...ting_LaptopAccessories_RL&hash=item5d3b4a870c

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/SPIGEN-SGP-S...ting_LaptopAccessories_RL&hash=item4171468c43
[Nexus 4 Accessories] abdi7451:
Can someone post pictures?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] n3wDaddy77:
I've been using the Dual Ultra Crystal for approx 2 months now and I absolutely love it! Yes, it doesn't repel fingerprints and smudges very well, but that wasn't a deal-breaker for me because I wanted the extra-hard protection. The smudges wipe off with not a lot of effort.

If smudges really annoy you, then go with the oleophobic SP. Otherwise, I really recommend the Dual Ultra Crystal!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] MajinJoko:
I'm quite satisfied with my ultra clear dual (front+rear).

The only thing, is that they attract too many fingerprints and are not so easy to clean..

Buying the oleophobic version now is not an option, they are very expensive :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] TecQuality:
guys, anyone has experienced some black screens during a call? i read somewhere that this could be a screen protector issue that covers the proximity sensor ... (using the oleophobic version)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DontPushButtons:
If you think it's the protector, try using android sensor box from the play store. (link below). That can show you whether your sensors are covered or not. I've never had an issue with the protector on my dual crystal ones. I have had a case that didn't have a large enough cutout..

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=imoblife.androidsensorbox
[Nexus 4 Accessories] TecQuality:
Just tried with this and another app, seems there aren't issues with the sensor, weird :o

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] shemulweb:
I am looking for a best stock or custom rom for ray for daily using with some of productivity apps. SO guys, please tell me the fastest ROM for Ray and the instruction pls . Thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jareee:
thread about this topic has been opened before

Best Rom :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1912041

Post your BenchMark Scores For Xperia Ray

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1731643

there you found your answer :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Deleted member 3493119:
OptiMax is the best rom for Xperia Ray.

Co-Head of TDOT

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