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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatAuc12:
Wow... people really whine about not being able to order an item before its for sale?

Its like crying for not being able to pay for something earlier with no effect on how quick I'll get it. It wouldn't be faster, there's a reason why they take orders the 13th of November instead of the 11 or 12th. You pre-order wouldn't be "sitting in boxes" waiting for a date to flip for the sake of it.

They start taking orders the 13th. Don't expect to get it the 14th either

Probably 3-5 processing days. And processing isn t just sorting boxes, it can just as much be that they don't get the actual device for a few more days.

Anyways, I really hope that you don't cry at your landlord that you would like to pay for your rent in advance.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
I got my nexus one within 3 days, when i ordered it during release week.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ROCKSTAR XS:
That's the nexus one. I bet you it didn't even sell 100,000 units in the first week. Don't expect the same results as 3 years ago.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sparkplugDev:
Can I just point out that we don't actually know whether the phone will be sent out starting on the 13th or if the 13th is the beginning of the pre-order process.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdithug:
I dont think you read my post. A pre order option does absolutely NO HARM. I work in sales and deal with purchase orders on an every day basis. I know for a fact that if I want to ship material out on the 13th, I would like to have the purchase order BEFORE HAND. Its called being prepared. You make sure you have the inventory. You make sure you have the payment. You make sure you have the shipping address. You make sure you have the order correct. Its called the background work. Contract Review. If a customer issued a purchase order to me on the 13th wanting their purchase to ship on the 13th, it is most likely not going to happen. ESPECIALLY when how many hundreds of thousands of people are issuing their purchase orders ALL AT ONCE. If Google wants to say the 13th is the release date for shipping, then having a preorder option is the best solution. If they want to say the 13th is when they start accepting payment, then really that is just a preorder itself. Because I can assure you that everyone who places an order on the 13th will not have their phone shipped that day. Yes I am aware of processing times and everything. What I am trying to say is you have the processing time taking place before the phone is set to ship. You have your orders in place, payment accepted, an understanding of how many devices are going out and to where and when. That kind of stuff can be done before the phone is even ready to ship. Its not rocket science. So take a minute and think logically about what you are saying before you reply.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intern:
I will be seriously pissed off if that's the case, as will lots of other people who are selling their phones..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
It's not impossible that the 13th is only the start of the pre-orders, though that would be really mean of Google. As their site very vaguely states,

which could mean just paying for the device
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatAuc12:
Explain to me exactly what part in there tells you "shipping"?

Available for purchase on Tuesday, Nov. 13th.

My point is... their PLAN is probably not to start SHIPPING the 13th, probably the 14th or 15th. That is the best wording you could use for that purpose.

I doubt it is pre-order starting the 13th though. But no reason to expect getting a device before the 20th or so.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdithug:
Well exactly. So if its not going to ship right away, where is the harm in accepting preorders? I could preorder it 2 weeks in advance for all I care. It still does no harm to accept orders and payment before the release of the phone. Like my original post stated, because they r waiting until the 13th to accept payments and have hyped it up like this, I can see many thousands or hundreds of thousands all trying to place an order at 12:01am Tuesday. That is a recipe for disaster trying to process that many orders at once. So why not have the orders come in over a period of time instead?

Its not worth arguing. As it is now, play store is accepting payment on the 13th. No mention of when it will ship. That is a preorder in itself.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatAuc12:
Thank you for understanding.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rumthin:
I highly doubt the phone is going to sell out on the 13th. The general public is largely unaware of this phone, and at $299/$349, it's just expensive enough not to be an impulse purchase for most people.

I could obviously be wrong, but I'm 65% certain on this one. lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdithug:
All I can say is lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdithug:
I understand that it would make no difference if they accepted preorders on the 7th vs the 13th, except that it would give Google more time to be prepared. More time to deal with the unexpected. More time to ship immediately. Which is exactly what this thread was about. Thank you for understanding.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sparkplugDev:
It turns out that there isn't going to be any pre-order, after all. this was released today from Google via Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-shipments-start-november-13th-no-pre-orders/
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0.0:
also, it will ship the same day when purchased on the 13th, so it says in the article
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdithug:
Glad you were right about preorders being useless. Oh wait. UK sold out within an hour, Australia sold out within 20 mins. Wonder what USA and Canada will be like.

But I guess preorders are useless. As Google would have already had everyone's order and information and a better idea of quantities being shipped.

I definitely saw this coming. Google wants the publicity of their phone being "sold out on day one". It will generate a buzz. It will encourage sales. Is it what the consumer wants? No. Preorders make sense. Plain and simple.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soapy77:
The Galaxy S3 really looks like an amazing phone. I currently have a X2, and am not happy with it.

My confusion is here... I'm on Verizion and need to stay with them for more than one reason. Work, coverage, I travel, etc...

Is the S3 completely locked down? I believe it has a locked bootloader, which is sad because it's one of the reasons I don't like my X2...

Is this true?

Can I still root, and install custom roms? This is confusing because of the different models I9300, I9305 ...

this thread says not to use on the snapdragon because of incompatibility... They make a non-snapdragon version?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1703488

I guess I'm just not sure that I want to buy another phone that will be a pain in my a$$ to install custom roms. I don't like the idea of not being able to install a new kernel. Not to mention having to wait on verizion to deliver a new version of Android after they destroy it with their bloatware.

Am I looking at the wrong phone? Is it a lost cause with Verizion? I like the Galaxy Nexus, but it is already getting old. I would like the Nexus 7, but I need to use Verizon.... WTF Should I do?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ausboy 2011:
not locked bootloader mate

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buy i9300 if your not too fussed on 4g bit extra ram would be nice :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brium13:
Hello,

I found this comparison video ( Lumia 920 VS Nexus 4 VS Xperia T ).

who is the best ? :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QTNuHf3ROJA

Original post :

http://www.extremepc.fr/actualite-4...us-4-vs-nokia-lumia-920-vs-sony-xperia-t.html
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Red Wolf:
its shared here more thn 10 times. wtf wrong with this forums
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brium13:
sorry, I have not seen, but this is a poll
[HTC Droid DNA] brenuga:
Tech specs

Picture and press reveal info
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
Probably on Launch Day.
[HTC Droid DNA] dmeadows013:
Nope. The screen will KILL battery life like butter.

Via my Google Galaxy S3 running sweet sweet Jelly Bean
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
Depends on the off contract price... expecting it to be around 7-8 hundred so probably not.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
Is this thread really necessary?
[HTC Droid DNA] jon7701:
I agree we already have the same phone in 2 other threads. Although I sound a bit like a hippocrit since I made a thread on the Japanese version when they had the dlx thread out. ;)

Sent from my Adrenalized Rezound.
[HTC Droid DNA] 1454:
Nope. The rezound is my last HTC device. They make decent quality stuff, but they refuse to support it. (see tablets) After buying two tabs and getting the shaft, I have made a vow to not buy another HTC product. Not to mention the hoops they make us jump through just to root and rom our phones. They might aswell be dead to me.

/rant off
[HTC Droid DNA] brenuga:
Delete it then fine by me. I only saw the butterfly thread and was just trying to provide some information.
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
Ok go get a samsung or moto and have fun with all the locked bootloaders
[HTC Droid DNA] 1454:
Samsungs is easily bypassable. Which is where I plan on going. And it's not like "htc's unlockable" BL does all that much good. If it did we wouldn't need to s-off.
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
true about samsung. moto i think has garbage hardware... can i ask what trouble you had with the htc tablets? sounds like a pretty bad experience for you to leave the company
[HTC Droid DNA] 1454:
Well, it started with the many replacements of the tbolt, then HTC's hard stance against updating their tablets kinda pushed me over the edge, then they updated the flyer/view to broken software and they wont even fix it. Now the Rezound is having touchscreen issues. So I'm just tired of dealing with the problems and the lack of OEM support after purchase. I appreciate the Dev community for the zound, but sammy seems to be stronger in that dept. So I think I am going to give them a shot. I won't touch Moto with a ten foot pole. It may be a bad move, but I'm willing to take that risk after all the issues I have had recently with HTC. So for me, from here on out, it's going to be Nexus, or Samsung.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Samsung is worse.
[HTC Droid DNA] dplane:
I love my Rez and I still think of it as probably one of the, if not the most undervalued android phone released to date, but I don't see myself going for yet another carrier exclusive device after this. Of course, reviews might be so great for the DNA that I could change my mind but so far I am not that impressed.

Having said that however, the lack of a LTE capable Nexus 4 kinda limits the options for those looking to upgrade atm and I really cant see myself with a Galaxy S device. Wish Sony would be given a chance at penetrating the US market, they seem to strike a fair balance between corporate dev support, hardware and software quality.
[HTC Droid DNA] Awesomebro:
I'll be getting this. The hardware and build quality will be top notch, it can be unlocked through HTCs dev website and be able to load cm. It was between this and the note but son, I am dissapoint at it having the older gen exynos and 720p screen on a 5.5 inch screen.
[HTC Droid DNA] Proz00:
no, my next phone will be honor 2 or note 2

battery is important factor to me now

i dont think i will ever came back to htc

even im sense-boy
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
Nah, samsung isn't worse.
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Its looking like ill most likely be getting it. I'm thinking ill be getting the DNA and one other new gen phone probably a GSM phone since I have two contracts, one with ATT and one with Verizon.

But I will be more careful than usual with this purchase. I'm currently so broke I can't afford the down payment on a grilled cheese sandwich. But this phone is a priority, and I owe it to the BAMF community. So I've been saving my pennies and will be selling some stuff to raise some funds.
[HTC Droid DNA] famouscollin:
I cam say that I'll be getting one as well, I'm always into the latest HTC has to offer..
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
samsungs radios and signal are 10x worse.

in my house, my gs3 gets about 6kbps download on 3g.

my rezound, when its not pulling 4g in my house (which the nexus and GS3 CAN'T), pulls atleast half a meg to a meg per second. doing anything on the gs3 on 3g is terrible, and ridiculously slow. fb app won't even load. rezound loads it no problem. hell, i even tethered 3 tablets to my rezound last night and while we were all browsing at the same time, ti was STILl faster than my gs3

i don't think i'd buy antoher samsung phone ever again, and i really want the DNA...dunno if i wanna fork out 600 bones for it tohugh
[HTC Droid DNA] 1454:
What good is PPI if you can't even store any content on it? Or keep it on long enough to do anything? I'm not trying to knock the phone, and this used to be in the rezound forum, but with only 11gb of non extendable storage, and a tiny 2020 battery, what good is it?
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
True I do agree on storage but thats different for each person because they may not have much to store like me. I only use 5 gigs worth including all my music. So I'm fine.

Battery they say is great if your a normal user. Heavy user will have trouble. Me I'm normal/ light user so i'm fine with tht too.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I'm about the same as you for the most part. I pull my pics/vids off my phone quite often anyways so I don't think id ever hit the cap.
[HTC Droid DNA] lazarus2297:
I plan on getting this phone soon.. I almost upgraded at the vzw store on launch day just to have it "now" but I just refuse to upgrade via a Verizon outlet.. (online or in store) I hate that best buy is only carrying this phone online at the moment.. but the wait for shipping is worth the extended return policy an no restocking fee not to mention I have rewardzone gift certificates to use and will earn a lot more points by upgrading through them..

I hate waiting though.. I think I am going to pull the trigger this afternoon..
[HTC Droid DNA] shuura:
Definitely a NO for me. I simply cannot buy a device (phone/tablet/mp3) that does not have an SD card slot. I can live without being able to change/remove the battery, but simply refuse to rely of remote "cloud" storage for my files and data. Sorry, but I will only switch out my S3 if the next Nexus isn't built by LG and has an SD card slot!

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must be a location/coverage thing. I have zero issues with reception on my S3 (VZW). For work, I had a Sprint iPhone 4S that would constantly drop calls and go straight to vm when people would call. Before that device, my AT&T BB would do the same. I switched it to VZW and never had an issue.
[HTC Droid DNA] scy1192:
still have a year and a half left with my Rezound

I'll probably go for the next Nexus, hopefully there's a 5 to 5.5-incher.
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
I'm up for the DNA. I've been on the HTC bandwagon my whole Android life with my previous and first phone being the Incredible.
[HTC Droid DNA] sm973:
I'm waiting until this is released and me and my wife's gs3 go to Craigslist it does suck HTC sucks with updates but I tell you I'm missing my rezounds the Samsung is nice but the radios are horrible wifi sucks and it's about 30dbm difference in signal strength on 4G and 3g between my rezound and gs3 and touchwiz is terrible I do admit the development for gs3 is good I will be picking up the HTC dna no questions asked
[HTC Droid DNA] zourn:
If I can find a loophole to upgrade without losing unlimited data, I would love the DNA.

Otherwise I'll probably wait several months and grab one off of swappa or something.
[HTC Droid DNA] marky2mark:
So I have a question on the non-removable battery. What happens when the battery wears out and won't hold a charge, which they usually do within 1 1/2 - 2 years. Can the battery be replaced? Or is the phone just shot at that point?
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
idk what you do to your batteries, but even my OG inc battery still holds the same charge it did from day one...
[HTC Droid DNA] Shinebox:
No, because unlimited data :-/

LTE is pretty useless without it.

I will wait for a used one
[HTC Droid DNA] tehknics:
This makes me glad that Verizon still allows unlimited on our business account. And if they did decide to drop it, I'll just use someone else's upgrade ;)

My Incredible's battery still works great as well :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] marky2mark:
I'm still on the OG Dinc too. Bought it the day it was released. On my third battery. Went thru the stock battery and now on my 2nd Seidio 1750.

Rechargable L-Ion batteries do eventually wear out after so many charges. They won't hold a charge as long as when they were new. I don't think this is breaking news.

Was just curious if the non-removable batteries can be replaced by a service tech or something.
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
If u have TEC just get verizon to swap it.

Sent from my unlocked VZW Galaxy SIII
[HTC Droid DNA] blestsol:
That's your experience though. Mine hasn't been nearly as bad. I was worried that my signal would suck at work and I was pleasantly surprised. I'm not going to say its excellent though.

I thought he meant period unless he meant signal .. I don't think samsung is worse.
[HTC Droid DNA] marky2mark:
What is TEC? And what do you mean by "swap it"? You mean the battery or the phone?
[HTC Droid DNA] SteveG12543:
Total equipment coverage, and you'd have to exchange the whole phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Samsung makes cheap plastic garbage phones. I hate the GS3 so much its such a POS and the galaxy nexus was pretty bad my 1.5 year old Sensation is better than both of them. You can have your opinion, but I hate Samsung like you guys hate apple.

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Droid DNA] GoBlue13:
I agree 100% with this. You couldn't pay me enough money to ever own another Samsung phone. My experience with Samsung has been horrible.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
They look decent. But yes, lots of plastic.
[HTC Droid DNA] killahrey:
Oh yea, release day it will be mine.
[HTC Droid DNA] neckbonest:
i will be paying full price looks like.

my samsung droid charge has been replaced 8 time this year

i have two rezounds that have never been replaced

moto droid bionic was replaced 4 times

moto droid x2 was replaced 5 times

moto droid x1, i cant remember how many time it was replaces

htc incredible was never replaced

moto OG droid only replaced once.

all have been rooted and hacked to death. i am sticking with HTC
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
lol you Samsung haters are funny. I have them all and I like them equally. GS3 rocks because it's hands down so much faster than the rezound, but the signal isn't as good. nexus rocks cuz its stock Android and i like that too.
[HTC Droid DNA] squidder:
Lol at sensation being better than both.
[HTC Droid DNA] SteveG12543:
I would love to get this, but I only have $3.39 to my name at the moment lol... I need a job.
[HTC Droid DNA] cslingerland:
Bacon egg and cheese mcgriddle make all your money go away.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
I am DEAD serious, I wouldn't take a GS3 over my sensation if someone gave it to me for free.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
....then you're high, because the GS3 owns the sensation in every way/shape/form.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Yeah yeah yeah whatever. You have your opinion, and I'll have mine.
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
And I just had some great apple pie.

We all have our opinions
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Strawberry rhubarb is better :silly:
[HTC Droid DNA] squidder:
Yeah but in this case their should be no opinions cause its a fact. You can hate the way their phones are made and all that stuff but the gs3 is better period.

Now you can like that phone better all you want that's fine that's an opinion but you can't honestly say its better than the gs3 cause its a fact that its not.
[HTC Droid DNA] badogg:
Well to be fair it really depends on what you are judging and your personal tastes. I wouldn't consider a Samsung phone better because I am not a fan of touchwiz. So I consider my rezound better. Now if we are talking about hardware specs, sure the GS3 has better specs, but for me it still isn't better.
[HTC Droid DNA] Meticode:
No.
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
I'd go back to my LG Voyager before getting one lol
[HTC Droid DNA] neckbonest:
lol, my 4th line still has the voyager on it and it works great
[HTC Droid DNA] killahrey:
Lmao. I'd go back to an LG enV before getting a Samsung phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] GoBlue13:
I'd go back to my original StarTac before owning another Samsung phone!!!
[HTC Droid DNA] zetsumeikuro:
Moto and Samsung are actually selling their phones with unlocked BL's as well. Also nope.jpg to getting this device.
[HTC Droid DNA] AshtonTS:
Obviously. I'm not an idiot you know

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Droid DNA] GrayBoltWolf:
Changed my mind.
[HTC Droid DNA] texascfdad:
Battery life is horrid because the small battery and enormous ppi.
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
Thanks for the info, didn't know you own one already.......
[HTC Droid DNA] platinumrims:
Was thinking the same thing...

I'm interested in the phone. May buy it and use it for a couple weeks. If I no like, i just return it lol. Either way if the battery lasts as long as this one which I can't imagine it not lasting longer... I'll probably keep it. Well hopefully it doesn't have the same light leakage this one does... Looks to be a sick phone hopefully so. First 720p phone to hit Verizon. First 1080p phone + quadcore... Are they still saying its quad-core?

Am I wrong in thinking the smaller the pixels the less battery it consumes? The only reason the screen should consume more battery is because its .7 inches bigger. But with knew tech and a quad-core. Shouldn't be noticeable I would think. But idk
[HTC Droid DNA] BBEgo:
The pixels are smaller, but there are a lot more of them (1080p vs 720p), so it takes more power to push em.
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
Its an LCD not a Plasma... With LCD, resolution has almost no effect on energy consumption because all pixels in the screen are illuminated by the same backlight
[HTC Droid DNA] 1454:
Mike, and I might be wrong, I was to the understanding that greater pixel densities in phones uses more energy because it uses more processing power to render the pixel rich images on those screens? As I said, I may be wrong, but that was my understanding.
[HTC Droid DNA] who MIKE D:
I don't know much about these types of things to be honest... I do know that LCD just one backlight that lights up the pixels

You may be right, you may be wrong. I have no clue lol

I just can't stand the fact that people start judging things before they even get to see, hold, and play with it!

...I think I'm starting to hate samsung fanboys more than iPhone users.
[HTC Droid DNA] kingoanklebreakn:
This is correct.
[HTC Droid DNA] texascfdad:
I don't, but changed the signature to see if anyone noticed lol. But I'm am sure the screen will drain the battery badly. Just like our rezounds do. You can try everything you want to save battery life, but the as long as the awesome screen is on, its drinking juice. Price we pay for the best screen out there. The same will be true for the DNA with a battery that small.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
i really really really want this phone, but i can't get another phone with rezound-like battery consumption. during our storm, i only got 2 hours out of my rezound with 2 hours screen on time. that was RIDICULOUS. the extended battery got me 4 hours. that's just unacceptable when trying to deal wtih an emergency scenario like we had with the storm. luckily i also had a nexus that was fully charged and an S3 with 3 batteries.