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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rolear8:
MiI order a nexus 5 15 days ago, so far good, but today, i got a cancelation email from google, saying the below, i order it from usa play store, using a credit card from where i live (Mexico)

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Hello Armando Rojas Leon,

Thank you for using Google Wallet. Unfortunately, we were unable to verify some of the order details for the following order. As a result the order has been cancelled.

You may resubmit this order by visiting Google Inc. again. To help us verify the order details, we recommend that your billing and shipping addresses match what is on file with your bank, and that the phone number listed in your Wallet account is one where you can be reached by our specialists.

Order date: November 13, 2013 2:34:27 AM PST

Google order number: 15731260465432498277.1523815723100584

Shipping Status Qty Item Price

Digital order 1 Nexus 5 (32GB, Black) - Nexus 5 helps you capture the everyday and the epic in fresh new ways. It's t... $399.00 USD

Digital order Two Day - 2 business days $13.99 USD

Tax Total : $28.22 USD

Total: $441.21 USD

Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.

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So failed....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meljuga:
You are not being rude, obviously I'm referring to this post which concerns me if Google checks credit card address when buying devices from play store.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
NP. So, some people reportedly said they could buy devices from Play Store using this idea successfully, other else people has reported the oppose.

That mean this method may work or not. We still cannot diagnostic whatever criteria Google is using for validating further than all those we listed on this thread.

Despite I have not done it yet, the statements are the same, and it works for music and for video that only should accept purchases when it matches with the region of the CC statement.

So, I fully believe it will works for those who succeed purchasing music/videos. And if it doesnt, I'll still able to ask some service to buy it for me, as I said on the post you had quoted.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ygvuhb:
any US online store sell it at US349

i hope can find one and transfer to my country though forwarder
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] josuetenista:
Just tried buying a nexus 7 just to see if it works with my non us credit card and it worked for me. After my credit card was charged I cancelled the order. I guess we won't have any problems buying the nexus 4

Enviado desde mi iPad con Tapatalk HD
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ygvuhb:
sometimes work sometimes is not work

when you place a order, google need two days process it, then they will ship after two days

that's why google play said the order need 3 to 5 day for delivery, two days process, two days is "Air 2 day shipping"

when you place a order, it just hold the limt under your credit card, not actually charge it

it charge it when device shipped, you will get a tracking no

during these two processing days, google check you credit card is US address or not , but i think google are randomly check the order

so someone success , someone is not

in the worst case google will block you google wallet and you have to send information to google verified your credit card and then reopen google wallet
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankhart:
I have the same problem. Using the tor browser and tried a bunch of different exit nodes, all with the same result: a spinner that keeps on spinning after you click on purchase.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Sorry guys. I do not intent to support TOR issues here - you need to search how TOR works and common TOR troubleshooting.

I just show you the way, the walking is yours.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicodemo77:
Can someone just Buy a bunch of nex 4 and sell them at a fair price for ppl outside the US?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sebz4n:
I get this message:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Felipaoo:
Hey there!

I am from Uruguay, South America and my brother is travelling to Miami the 18th this month for a week. I intend to get one of these, but the play store is pretty restrictive, not only I can't enter the device store cause I live in Uruguay, but they also require the credit card to be from the US, without the trick in this page. The thing is that I'd like to avoid doing it, just for security.

I have chances to get some friends (who live in the US) credit cards, but I still have a question,... does the shipping address (which I'd like it to be the hotel's) need to match the address to which the credit card is registered? or it only needs to be from the US? I have friends in the US but not in Miami.

Thanks in advance, i'm quite excited to get it, but this thing makes it harder and harder :(

P.S.: Sorry if this is not the correct place to post this, but I thought that yet another thread about this would be unnecessary.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dehsA:
Just wanted to let you guys know that this did not work out for me. My order status was "Pre-ordered" for about 8 hours and just now I just saw it as cancelled since they couldn't verify my credit card details since the billing address I entered isn't my real one... :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akkiman:
I am from outside the US having an non-US credit card. Here is what I did :

1) Accessed via unotelly (a dns based service)

2) I have a US address google account and used that to create a google wallet account as well.

3) I added my non-us based cc to the google wallet.

4) To test if it works, I purchased a song and it worked.

5) Yesterday, I was able to make the payment and cc was already charged.

6) The status was showing up as "pre-ordered' for over 6 hours

7) Right now it has changed to "shipping estimate 15th november"

Therefore I think I am good.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dehsA:
What did you enter for your billing address?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paschalis:
Okay..

here is my problem...

I have an internet only card..

i used it in past and buyed some credits for google talk/voice...

Now, i m going to use it to buy nexus 4 device..

I have a valid Spain address, for a person i know to pick up my device...

So, for that credit card, i made a new address with entered his name and his full Spanish address..

And i get the following error when i try to buy a nexus 4 bumper..

"Sorry, we were unable to process this request. The order has been automatically cancelled and you will not be charged for the purchase. Please try again later.

121114 17:27:29+0200 MRGSE3"

Is this because of that? Or because play store faced problems?

If i change the address with MY name and HIS address, will it be okay for him to receive my item?

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I have exaclty the same problem!!

I m trying to buy a bumper just to test it...

i hope that's googles play store fault :crying:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killerbender:
so after verification the order will get through?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
This statistics is not real.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
You can use UnoTelly service for that, also. Its easier than TOR and works fine - no looping circles at the order! Pls visit www.unotelly.com
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] modstorm:
I'm going to buy a N4 as soon as they are availabe in stock, which is the recommended way to buy it from the Play Store ? I live in Malta and I want to buy it from the UK Play Store. I'm going to use an address of a service in UK that will forward the package to Malta for me, so delivery is not a problem. Only thing I am worried about is accessing the UK site and making the purchase from it and using a non-UK visa.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Use this method, since your visa is International and have an UK billing address. For accessing UK Play Store you can use UnoTelly, it has a free trial and its simpler to configure than TOR.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wmka2000:
Yes
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H4CK_H0PP3R:
I lives in India ,I have ICICI international DEBIT visa card ..& yeah it has VCC code also ,Will it work ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ham duden:
When I use UnoTelly to get the London IP, I can still only buy in the US play store. Any idea why this is so?

How can I access the UK store? Do I then have to try TOR?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahermesto:
Any news ? has the item shipped ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
I use that for buying on US Play Store. But, are you sure your dns is set to london?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Just want to let you know that I ordered one to me right now. When it has been shipped I update this. :victory:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverOrange:
I wonder if you can buy a prepaid US credit card from someone like greendot.com with an international credit card and use that to make your purchase. If you walk into a store and buy one, you actually do the activation and set the address online. Could possibly set the address to that of your remailer so everything matches up nicely.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
You'll need a ss number.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CurlyY:
when will google start to sell nexus4 outside of US at a fair price ??
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IVBela:
Didn't work for me, got the robot error page. Virtual card though, maybe that's why.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meljuga:
I just wanna let everyone know that I tried Tor and Tails but convenience and speed in loading web pages when using UnoTelly is simply great.

Unfortunately shipping time for Nexus 4 is 4-5 weeks and my friend will be visiting USA in two weeks so he won't be able to bring me back phone. :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tom1807:
Are you guys sure they verify the credit card address and the shipping/billing address?

I left my credit card data (Citibank) already 2 weeks ago in the wallet, billing address is in the US and shipping address different location but also US.

if yes, how long will the verification process take?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zenithz:
@the Croatia guy: You're out of luck now. The shipping estimate is 4 to 5 weeks.

I'm in Japan and I successfully ordered two 16gb in the first batch and had them shipped to my friend's address. It does depend on how strictly your bank performs address matching. I guess since japanned address system is way complicated so they do it very loosely here.

Edit: Google detected something with my purchase so they put my order as "preordered" for two days. Guess they were OK with me.

They told me that it may take up to 48 hours if they see anything odd. Still they put a hold on my card right after the order was successfully placed though
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Its not known. Some says yes to every order, some says yes to a batch sampling, some say they doesnt check this but check the billing address instead.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thenext1:
I've documented myself on the internet and here's what I will do when the nexus gets back in stock in France.

I applied for a prepaid credit card, so as to minimize impact if google locks my wallet account.

I will create a new wallet account behind a french https proxy.

I will add to the account the prepaid card with a billing address consisting of my name, and the french address to where I'll ship the goods.

I think banks use just my name to check validity, not my address. I never put addresses when I purchase things in italian web shops with their own payment gateway, so the bank should be fine with it and authorize my charge. Banks in italy don't use Address Verification System AFAIK. And Google will be happy with the french billing address.

I never used Wallet before, will they ask for a confirmation transaction like the 2 euro charge from Paypal? In that case I'll have an early confirmation or denial of this method's validity.

When the Nexus 4 is back in stock, I will order behind the proxy and specify the full shipping address (i.e. address from the billing info but with the real person name).

I hope all will go well :D

There are missing pieces of information though:

We don't know if Play Store knows the credit card info from the Wallet. It shouldn't, for privacy reasons: after all, the purpose of payment gateways like Paypal and GWallet is to keep your personal credit info from the merchant's eyes. But I suspect that both Wallet and Play Store being google's own, they will share information about that.

We don't know how does Google check for credit card's country of issue. There is a thing called BinDB that can associate a credit card to a issuing country (and even the issuing bank) given its first 6 digits. Still, we don't know if Google uses that bit of information, and I'm convinced they should not for privacy reasons. However we know Google doesn't give a f*ck about privacy.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zenithz:
No Google won't check the country of the card. The only thing matters is if your bank allows the transaction with a foreign billing address.

I am very certain of this because my friend used a Vietnamese card and I used a Japanese card and our orders both went through without any problem.

And just add everything beforehand. Google wallet doesn't charge anything to verify (they may place a hold but it will be released later)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thenext1:
You're talking about nexus4 or, perhaps, nexus7? Things may have changed.

And which name & billing address did you put in the card in google wallet, so that your bank did not complain?

Thank you for this precious piece of information
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
this method didnt work for me. As my billing address was out of the US the card was greyed out. And if i switched the billing to the US the transaction failed with the robot "uh oh" stuff. :(

any other idea?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
have you tried to, before start purchasing, set the default billing address as US, on wallet.google.com ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
yup tried it. and then i always got the "uh oh" robot that something failed :(

edit:

i just tried again with the method of OP and the payment system page has changed. now it passed. have my order number. do i change back the billing address? because if i add a new card with that billing it fails, but if i modify it it works now.

any ideas if to change it back?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Why does it fails? Do you got some error message? pls show us this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
thanks cpaixao!

i retried your technique and it passed (it worked). now my question if i change back in my wallet to original address because if i add a credit card with non original address into my wallet it will not work.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caxio:
today my nexus 4 is the hand of usabox.com now the last trip to italy
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Thanks. Hey, read my last post, please, and answer that!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Heyyyy congrats! I am happy for you! Have you answered the pool on this thread?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caxio:
yes i have answered, my last preoccupation is jump customs check in italy
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
i used to get this error doing your steps

now, i dont know why but i got the amount confirmation in its own page (and before it was like a popup inside the page). now i had everything on a page of its own and it passed (following your original steps).

i dunno what changed in the "page by page" process but it worked. i have a confirmation number, but dont know if it'll go through because my billing address is not valid for the credit card (as the billing is in usa and the card is chilean so it needs a chilean card).

sorry if you get lost, but i got lost myself and dunno how to better explain it. :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Had you placed an order already or just assigned to wallet?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
Placed the order :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xijuan:
I think this is right! I live in Vancouver, Canada. I used proxy (i.e., hotspot shield) to get to the order page. I used my mom's American Express for the credit card and put down a US address for the billing but the actual billing address should be a Canadian one. At first the credit card didn't go through. I called the American Express and they verified that my mom is the owner of the card and we want to buy the phones from Play Store; and allowed me to make the transaction. After the phone call, my card went through and it says "Your order will be charged and shipped by Google Inc..". But since i ordered the phone yesterday, the phone is not shipped.

Also I found the section of google play store's website that talks about billing address:

""

Payment issues

Declined cards

If you place an order using a Google Wallet account, you'll receive an automatic email from Google notifying you of the failed charge. You must sign in to your Google Wallet account and update your payment information within seven days. If your payment information is not updated within seven days after the card declines, your order will automatically be cancelled. Once you successfully update your payment information, you can review the status of your order by signing into your account.

If your credit/debit card was declined, consider the following issues that users often encounter when making purchases online:

Enter the entire card number without any spaces or dashes

Verify your card hasn't expired, and enter the correct expiration date

Enter the correct Card Verification Code (CVC)

Google Wallet only sends CVC information to your bank for the initial authorization of your card. To ensure the security of your credit card information, Google does not store your CVC and it will not be sent for all other authorizations.

Confirm the billing address listed in your Google Wallet account matches the billing address that appears on your credit/debit card statement"'

So if you have a declined payment, it maybe due to the billing address. But if your payment went through, i think it will be fine. It is what i think.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Ok, just wait for emails and wallet updates then. Dont need to change anything on Wallet.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thenext1:
So, in the Wallet card data, you put your real name and a US billing address, right?

If so, your order will serve us as a benchmark.

I think the payment will go through, it depends on your bank being more or less anal about your billing address. Hope they couldn't care less.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caxio:
now my nexus 4 is in the hand of dhl ready for delivery to italy :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thenext1:
Lucky guy!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meljuga:
Will you have to pay taxes fee?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caxio:
i have pay usa tax my andress is to usabox.com miami florida i pay 36 $ for ship to italy, and i hope dont pay any italian import tax and 21% of vat for import value
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] singoutout:
If Google sees you are having a fake address, what would the consequences be ?

I totally want to try, but I am a little scared of the consequences (especially for my credit card) ...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
I added added the card normally (because if I add it with a different billing address it fails) then changed the billing to us address. Paid and the changed it back to Chile.

I think my bank (and Chile) is anal about security. For example to transfer money you need a dynamic key generator and if its an unusual amount you need a second number either sent to your email or cell phone to validate. Other a anal stuff is that you always need a code to use your CC. I like it this "anal" in security but when I need to pay for stuff like the nexus it's a pain.

Hahaha

Hope this helps y'all.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thenext1:
Any communication on Google's part yet?

Are you sure Google charges your CC right away at order time? I heard that they put the amount on hold and the charge actually comes when the device is ready to ship.

As to being anal about security, we're in the same boat, but I was actually referring to the billing address check at your bank (also called Address Verification System). They may or may not do it. As far as I know, banks where I live don't do it, they just check the CC data and cardholder name. So the transaction should go through fine even with the wrong billing address.

That being said, I bought a cheap prepaid credit card just to make sure nothing happens to my primary CC, and it added just fine the 1st time with the wrong address.

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I *think* they may lock your wallet account and ask for documentation by email... just get a cheap prepaid credit card (if they sell them where you live), clear browser history and create a new wallet account...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shawtux:
I ordered on the 30th and on the 2nd the order was sent to Google.

Haven't checked the card for pre approved amount. Will let you know.

edit:

its precharged in my credit card.

:D yay
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
I sent an email to Google Support and they said my Nexus might be shipped by Dec, 19.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caxio:
after long wait yesterday i have in my hand in my home in italy ,my nexus 4 16 gb ,orderd in usa play store at 13/12/2012:cool:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Sounds great! My goal is even more and more people reporting it successful here! I am happy on helping all you guys. :victory:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LLCoolLS:
Was this for a December 3 order? If so, what did your confirmation email state for a shipping ETA? 3-4 weeks?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
28th, 2-3 weeks.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tom1807:
Update from my side.

As written before I setup my credit card 2 weeks before I ordered using a VPN to Los Angeles.

The order (with VPN) went through and Wallet made a pre-authorization to my Credit Card (Citibank) in the complete amount.

One week later, I got the same text, but due it was in Chinese I asked my colleague and he confirmed its either charge or pre-authorization.

However, the second time it was was really charge, cause a few hours later I got the shipping email and confirmed by UPS that it arrived already at my shipping address.

So it seems, that the credit card issuer has to accept overseas charges regardless of the billing address
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LLCoolLS:
Ok, so that would mean it would ship right at the 3 week mark for you. I was hoping I had a chance of getting my phone before the new year. I ordered on Dec 3, 3-4 weeks. Guess I won't be getting the 50GB Box.com deal.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
I got it and I agree from the point of overseas allowing by the cc issuer, but I think these events have no relationship because a lot of people is reporting already getting their track numbers ordering on Dec, 5.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tom1807:
Well, topic is mainly:

"How to buy Nexus 4 (or whatever) from Google Play Store *Outside* US"

That's why I thought I had to clarify that how it worked for me
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpaixao:
Yeah! Hey man, no problem at all! I didnt meant to offend you, pls dont take it that way!