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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jacampb2:
Sorry guys, I just woke up. Was on graveyard shift last night. Anyhow, the cable was a generic ebay right angle otg cable, about 5" or so in length. I am 99% certain it had nothing to do with the cable though, just a hardware problem. As mentioned above I dissected the cable and it had no problems. I could still use it on my Nexus 7 with no issues. I had the cable plugged in before inserting the flash drive and it was fine until the flash drive was plugged it.

The Root Wikiz thread I mentioned said that someone had sent theirs in to be Jtag'ed thinking it was just hard bricked. The response from the people where he sent it was that they had seen a number of them with the PMIC damaged and that there was nothing that their services could do for them.

My guess is there are some marginal PMIC's out there and that when they switch the port from charge to host mode they just cant take the current and pop. The fact that I made it nearly 5 months using the same OTG cable on a regular basis kind of lends credence to this theory, but who knows. All I know is that it was totally dead, absolutely no signs of life regardless of what I tried.

FWIW I was rooted and running paranoid android, but I have found reports of this happening to bone stock phones as well as any variation of ROM. Verizon did warranty the device. Oddly, the tech told me "I have never heard of this happening" but didn't even ask me to try anything with the phone, he just said that they would ship me a new one for warranty replacement.

New device is here, I'm off to root and unlock! Good luck guys.

Later,

Jason
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] robsonline:
Wow, that sucks, but I am glad you got another S3. I have been using this one that I got from Amazon. It has a couple of usb ports and 2 card readers. I have been very happy with it. It is extremely useful when I am at family functions, and everyone has taken a lot of pictures and video. I can grab their cards and pull the pics and video onto my 64 Gig SD card on my phone. People are amazed I can do this with my phone! However, now I am a little worried about using it. I will keep this in mind, and only use it on the occasions that I really need it. Thanks for the heads up!

Rob
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] arminghm:
my s3 discharging immediately

hi everybody....

i have an issue with my s3....i make an OTG cable and plug it into my s3...and i just can get power from it,no data.

but i think the s3 is already wasting power and i must charging it after a day.

can anybody help me!!!!! :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
One day charge is normal if using phone. If gonna use OTG you are overusing and can expect 1/2 day. Buy good cable if want data. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jcurley:
I had something similar happen except, my usb sent a static spark from my oc to my phone. Didn't fry it completely, but messed up something that would no longer dock to pc, dock to car our go into deep sleep.

Wonder if the two issues are related.

Be sure to discharge any static in you usb called before plugging them into your phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] arminghm:
your right..but its used for 3 days....i bought an otg cable and use it...thats amazing...i can use mouse,keyboard and other devices in my s3.

but i still have my problem...:(

my s3 is in flight mode and and doesnt do anything...but its discharging..and i dont know the problem is sent from my os or my hardware..

idont kno that the os is screwed up or is something wrong with battery.

is there any command that tell os to dont discharging???:D

i love my s3 so much :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
This same thing happened to me when I plugged the same type of cheap right elbow OTG cable from ebay into my brand new S3 (2 days old with about one hour of usage). The cable worked fine with USB drives, a mouse, or a keyboard used alone on the S3. The cable was plugged into a USB 4 port hub with multi-card reader. The screen was off when I plugged it in so it appeared to just be off. Any attempts to power it on were fruitless. I smelt the phone right afterward and there wasn't any burnt smell. Plugging in the phone resulted in it getting pretty warm but not to an extreme yet the battery remained cool. It appears to have burnt something between the battery and lines but leaving the components intact thus causing the excess of heat. BTW the hub/reader is fine. I won't be using that again on my new one but I will be attempting to use a different hub that has been working fine on my wife's RAZR MAXX HD. Just hope this is a very isolated incident and not a bad batch from the retailer. :(

Edit: The S3 is a blue 16G Verizon model. The S3 was on stock ROM when this happened (not like that would prevent death from inferior circuit protection components).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BowDown:
Were you using a powered hub, or passive hub?

Anyone tried a DAC off the OTG cable?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] uber_mike:
Don't do it. I've fried 2 GS3s with a UCA-220 DAC over otg.

First time with a regular OTG cable, the second time with a OTG/phone charging cable, the power came unplugged and zap. I'm lucky Verizon has replaced the phone two times.

I think the best solution is to completely isolate the DAC power from the phone power. A circuit to charge the phone with the otg/charge cable and a separate circuit to power the DAC.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BowDown:
Wouldn't use of a powered usb hub remove any power issues? I purchased a OTG cable today.. I had planned to connect it to a powered hub, and run the DAC off that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
It is an either/or hub and media reader but it wasn't plugged in.

There must have been a surge from the caps in the hub sent back to the phone due to a combination of poor designs/components. The hub works fine on my pc still. I bought it from Big Lots so it is probably cheap Chinese ware. I can't post a link so google sku 550019733.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] uber_mike:
Not sure, I haven't used a powered hub myself. I imagine it will work fine, but if the power to the hub comes disconnected it may cause problems. You want to avoid the possibility of the DAC drawing any power from the phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
I would use OTG USB only in an emergency basis. These devices really were not to designed to drive a bunch of devices hanging off the USB bus and with all the other available connectivity.... bluetooth, ethernet,, cloud storage etc. the question would be why risk it. I can run a keyboard, mouse, mass storage, sync files to other devices, audio and remote display without ever touching the S3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Duder29:
This happened to me today. A friend asked me if I could check to see if her OTG cable was working. Now I have an S3 brick.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bgsteiner:
OTG Be Careful

You have to be careful of OTG cables you should never use a cable that draws power from the phone the phone is not meant to be used as a battery if you raw too much current from the phone the power IC can "pop" causing harm to your phone or external device. USB drives that have high capacity can cause this, maybe not on the first time but continuous use can degrade the IC and eventually cause failure.

Another thing is you should not use an OTG cable that provides power to the phone from something such as a powered usb hub you need to isolate the power from the usb input on the powered hub as USB hubs only provide protection on the ports it adds and relies on the protection of your computer to keep the input side safe.

If you don't know the current draw your phone can handle if at all use a hub, if you don't know the current draw of the device you want to use on the OTG cable use a hub but remember to isolate the power from your phone. If you need advice on how to do this youtube probably has videos or shoot me a PM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pray59:
Happened to me 3 weeks after the release of the S3. I have never used another OTG cable again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JustinHardigree:
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this just happened to me. I have a s3 and i was trying to get a 128SSD in a caddy to mount to my phone when it suddenly went black. its been about an hour now and i am unable to get the phone to do anything at all. I had irreplaceable things on there. mostly pictures. my carrier is verizon and i was running Cyanogenmod 10.1 the newest version of it for the phone. but none of that matters as its all a stupid hardware issue. my guess is this is why no real manufacture makes the OTG cables. because they don't want to put the effort or resources in making the hardware better in this area. because what i went into this thinking was that if it didn't have enough power it would just not power on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jasonjl:
I had the same problem when I went to vegas. I've connected game controllers before via OTG and never had a problem. As soon as I attached my harddrive, my phone was dead :( . Happy to learn from this experience and glad it wasn't an issue with my kernel or rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
There is no doubt that the problem is Samsung's whether or not the cables can only be bought aftermarket. The S3 USB circuit doesn't properly do its job. From documentation of the USB standard it appears that a device must request more power. This means it is accepting the request erroneously.

Legally I don't know if it would hold because, as has been said, they could claim it was using unapproved hardware (even though it is just a cable connecting 4 wires). :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DrPhant0m:
For what it's worth... I got several OTG cables on amazon, and they're very well-built and cheap (like a buck a piece). They're about 6" long, and the connections are very secure. I've used them several times to move large amounts of information between phones, computers.

I haven't had any trouble with them, but then again... I understand how uncommon this problem is...

These are the ones I ordered:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006FCQDZS/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Looks like they're cheaper now. Closer to $0.50 each, and free shipping. Can't ask for better. I have one at my desk at home, at work, and in my car. And still have 2 to spare. I never lack for a way to connect my phone to a flash drive.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
Unless the wiring isn't 1:1 (pass-thru) no cable should be to blame. All OTG cables are cheaply made because there is no big brand name that sells them. The circuitry in the S3 should be stopping too much current from flowing through (or back in). There appears to be small batches of S3s that had poor components inside of them that aren't doing their job of protecting the phone. The white S3s seem to be the majority of models to have this defect.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] schneiderbecket:
Killing S3s

I personally killed 4 pebble blue S3s (sch-i535) over OTG before figuring out it was my behringer DAC killing them. See I was running otg and charging and I thought for sure it had to be the power supply or the cheap cable killing them. I have now recently upgraded to a S4, has anyone heard of the same problem plaguing the S4?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
What are the specs of the DAC? It would be helpful to have some sort of general info to go off of to see what types of devices may brick the susceptible S3s.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
Im thinking of getting a cable but worried about my phone tho due hearing of this anything I should look out for
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
I would say stay away from anything that requires external power or has that as an option. Flash drives and microSD readers should all be fine. Keyboards and mice w/o special lighting (blinged out with leds) should be fine. I have tested a few w/o any problems. Beyond these devices it is crapshoot.

We should actually start a thread with known safe hardware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
You know if external HDDs work or like any DACs thought of getting while back thought of I have the newer gs3 sapphire black prob wouldn't make a difference of the batches
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
I completely agree with this for the most part, I've read that people have bricked their phones plugging in many external devices. The weirdest one was with a portable scanner that was battery powered. Another was with an external hard drive, likely powered.

I just think it might be a crapshoot plugging anything in. Even a thread saying which devices are safe may not be perfectly safe in every circumstance. But as long as it isn't a powered device it would be OK in most situations.

However, wouldn't something that requires power be iffy in the first place? For instance, I would assume plugging in a small non-powered hard drive would be a bad idea because it requires a lot of power from the device to function. Something like a card reader would use much less power and be safer, but the risk of something happening could still be there.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jessbowring:
I just fried mine by the sounds using the usb otg with a micro card reader.

Does anyone know if this problem is exclusive to the S3? I got it primaril for my ONE but now nervous lol. I did try it to see if there was ill effects to my sd card but the cable works fine on my one still. But my s3 is toast.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Simply put don't buy cheap OTG cables

you wouldn't buy cheap oil for your car would you?

Or just simply don't use OTG cables as you can get a SamBrick S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] schneiderbecket:
Silly consumers... "quality cable"

You are completely wrong buying, a "high quality" copper wire to carry a digital signal a short distance would be like buying a "high quality" or "aftermarket" oil cap. If we were talking about RCA cables you would have a valid argument because that is transferring an analog signal. I'd still tell you to just buy a cheap XLR cable though, hahaha

Seriously this horse was beat to death with HDMI cables long ago.

Now, powered devices SHOULD be safer, uncovered (laptop) hard drives should eat any s3 they are connected to, at least according to my research.

My guess is that some DACs cause problems because of their amplifier circuitry, I believe the term is in-rush current. Sound guys often talk about amps producing a "bump" the circuit pulls much more than RMS to charge it's capacitors.

Mice and keyboards with "bling" should be fine (unless the engineer designed a poor circuit, or quality control doesn't exist) LEDs, especially the tiny ones used on circuit boards, use very little power.

I want to know if people have had problems with wireless keyboards and mice, I expect that little transmitter to use a decent amount of power.

Also has anyone else moved on to the S4?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ProfLonghair:
(Insert swearing here) wish I knew this about an hour ago. Out of the country and wanted to copy a movie over to watch in the hotel TV. Popped it in, and now it won't even try to turn on. Weird thing is! I had just tried the same set up a minute before and it didn't kill anything, just wouldn't moiunt, so I went to recovery, cleared the caches and plugged it in when it was back on.

When people say VZW will warranty the phone, that's only if you pay for the warranty service, right?

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(Insert swearing here) wish I knew this about an hour ago. Out of the country and wanted to copy a movie over to watch in the hotel TV. Popped it in, and now it won't even try to turn on. Weird thing is! I had just tried the same set up a minute before and it didn't kill anything, just wouldn't moiunt, so I went to recovery, cleared the caches and plugged it in when it was back on.

When people say VZW will warranty the phone, that's only if you pay for the warranty service, right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
If your S3 is under manufacturer's warranty then you can exchange it at VZW for nothing. Just don't mention the otg because it may make them say it was outside of acceptable usage and deny it.

If that warranty has expired and you have an extended warranty then you will have to pay around 100USD for the deductible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ProfLonghair:
I was afraid that was it. Looks like I'll be using a RAZR maxx for the next 9 months.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ProfLonghair:
Ordered a new board off eBay, if it works the $140 for the board will beat any other deal I could get.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ProfLonghair:
Bought this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Part-Ve.../111215779794?ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160

and used the instructions here (simple, really)

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+S+III+Motherboard+Replacement/12696

and it's all fixed now. No muss, no fuss. Well, I dropped the screw several times, so there was some fuss.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Quada:
Welp, add another to the list. I used OTG maybe twice a week for a couple months without issue. I plugged my OTG cable in the other day and the phone was done for and won't even think about turning on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mageus:
Wrong.

I just plugged a USB flash drive via an OTG cable. Screen went blank and it won't power up. I've never connected anything other than a USB drive before.

I'm between the 90 day warranty and 2 year upgrade. Basically, I'm screwed.

Note to self: always take the microSD card out and copy directly to it. Question is, what does this issue mean for devices without a memory card slot (e.g. Nexus)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jasonbtx:
Been using OTG to power usb dac in car daily for the last 6 months. My secret , buy the extended warranty and don't worry.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] treyjazz:
As far as I've seen from searching for an answer, the S3 seems to be the only device with such a widespread problem with OTG nuking them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
The problem is the S3 is not designed to power any peripherals via the microUSB port. It may work for a while, but eventually it will fail. Other phones may be designed with better power capabilities via the microUSB.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dante020:
I had this happen to my S3 and my USB DAC about a week ago. I ended up buying a replacement (used/working) mainboard on eBay for $70 and replaced it myself. It was really easy and better than buying a new phone. It's just a matter of removing about 8 screws and unsnapping some ribbon connectors and then doing the same reverse. Note that you'll lose everything on your internal memory, but I don't think there's a way around that anyway (unless you JTAG it or something).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] IamMrHart:
Just happened to me the other day

Guess you can add me to the list of dead S3 by OTG... And I can't do anything about it... So now the search begins for a replacement motherboard, guess I now know... Kinda bummed, cause now I have to use a crappy phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Charkzilla20:
This happened to me tonight...

I can't believe it. This is the FOURTH s3 i've had in 3 years to become a brick.

I was plugging in the phone through a USB OTG cable to my DAC to play music through. As soon as i plugged it in, the screen went black and now it won't turn on. Same symptoms from some of the others i read here.

LUCKILY I backed up the photos off the phone TODAY. First time in months.

That's really lucky.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Lrr_r:
You don't need to swap the whole motherboard, just replace the IC-BATTERY 1203-007169 part.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] htsmi:
Well I was hit by this unfortunate issue today as it took out my trusty Galaxy S3. I had a 32GB Samsung micro-SD card plugged into a Transcend USB dongle plugged into a Monoprice USB OTG adapter, all of which I have used many times without issue. Upon plugging this into the phone, the display went blank and it was dead, bricked, in the true sense of the word. As in rendered a brick. I am back to shopping for a new phone, and I can guarantee it will not be another Samsung.

I only hope this problem is limited to this model. It seems to me that I should be able to completely short any of the USB contacts and still not do permanent damage to the phone. Shouldn't there be some built-in protection for this? Damaged cables and chargers and USB peripherals can easily be plugged in; it seems a bit severe that this should lead to needing to replace the phone.

Between the hell I went through to unlock the bootloader and now this, I would advise anyone to think twice before considering using this phone anymore. And if you are still using it, stay away from USB OTG, or prepare for the inevitable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Curious to know something. Why did you need a USB otg when you can have a 64gb SD card in the S3?

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] htsmi:
Just a quick file transfer. I've done it this way many times as opposed to removing my case and my current storage card.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Oh ok, I wasn't sure. I still use a 64gb SD card on my old S3. I've heard good and bad about usb otg. I'm nearly sure it's not just the phone which is at fault

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fahry23412:
so my phone is got died too after using otg. i dont know why it can be happen because when i try to use it in another phone it works (same for this phone before it died). any solution? or can it to be repaired?
[HTC Rezound] texascfdad:
How do I make an RUU rooted? Meaning I keep the custom hboot and recovery. I'm s-off. I flashed the latest global RUU a while back after being on clean Rom for a while, and hated having to push the hboot and amon ra recovery again. I'm running Newts one XxX 3.2.1 now and I love it, but I just want to remember what stock was like I guess lol. Maybe so I can appreciate the devs more. Can I just delete the hboot***file, boot_signed.IMG and recovery_signed.img files from the ph98img.zip and all be good? Or will it bootloop or possibly brick my phone.
[HTC Rezound] Squirrel1620:
Yes you can do that, just removing the recovery will do the trick. If you remove the boot from it, it will bootloop. That should keep you rooted and keep your current recovery. Be sure to unzip the zip file, then remove it, then re zip it up and run it
[HTC Rezound] texascfdad:
Thank you. So I leave the hboot in the .zip as well? Won't that flash over the custom hboot and remove the fastboot option?
[HTC Rezound] Squirrel1620:
Oh sorry didn't realize you had an engineered hboot. Yeah take that out too
[HTC Rezound] texascfdad:
Ok cool. Thanks. That's what I thought from reading on xda for a while, but I wanted to make sure before I did it so I didn't have any issues and have to start over anyway.
[HTC Rezound] texascfdad:
I suppose I do need the boot IMG too since I'm moving from sense 4.0 to 3.6 and ics maybe slightly different too like 4.02 and 4.03
[HTC Rezound] Squirrel1620:
Well since the ruu will replace your rom, you will need to keep the boot.img that comes with the ruu
[HTC Rezound] texascfdad:
Yeah, that's right.
[HTC Sensation] jester101:
Hi All,

The rear camera in my z710a has died (blur in the centre of photos) and the only replacements I can find online are for Sensation XE's.

Can I replace my camera with an XE cam?
[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
I am pretty sure you can, because sensation xe camera app works with z710a so the hardware must be the same
[Galaxy Note II Themes and Apps] pAxz:
Hello guys,

Im using CM10 experimental on my N7100, everything is good so far. Now i am looking for the new keyboard from stock ROM. This keyboard have numbers on the top oft chars. Does anyone can provide the original apk?
[Galaxy Note II Themes and Apps] narse:
Would also like to know if it is possible to install the original stock keyboard on CM. The handwriting recognition is much better, but not sure if it is self contained or needs framework from the original Samsung rom?

Does anyone know if it is possible?