yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
I've used Google Music before and it's definitely the best and most polished method of them all. I can't say much about the data usage though because I used mine mainly on WiFi (I assume it would chew through 1.5GB fairly quickly, if you know the bitrate at which it plays the songs you can also figure it out exactly but that wouldn't include standard web browsing estimates and what not too so it wouldn't be helpful except to give a best case scenario)

You're in luck though, Google Music comes out in Australia on the 13th of Nov, same with Movies, and so you won't need to run a VPN or proxy to sign up the first time like I did. :)
[Nexus 4 General] rickinoz:
Yeah, I'm very tempted too.

My 3 year old NextG HD2 is a trooper but it's only a matter of time before it has a critical failure. It's also frustrating to travel with as mine struggles to get and hold anything other than 850 band 3G ... hence lots of swearing in Europe last year.

So the concept of a multi-band phone is appealing. The lack of 4G doesn't bother me as coverage is still patchy and Telstra don't route voice-calls through LTE anyway.

It's a lot of phone for 400 bucks and best of all ... no carrier bloatware.
[Nexus 4 General] MrWulf:
The "why on earth" was a little less polite, but point taken, I was probably a little hasty. You're right though, I don't listen to all 40GB of music at any one period, but I like to have the choice of listening to whatever it is I have, rather than decide ahead of time and load up what music I want for the next period of time.

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Cheers thanks for the input and that's great news about Google Music coming to Oz. I actually have already registered for Google Music (it was pretty painless with tunnel bear, did it straight from my nexus 7). I will just have to see how I go with mobile data, and increase my plan if need be.
[Nexus 4 General] NIK516:
And another big thing to come to Australia on the 13 is music on the plaay story so it will finally be easy to get music online
[Nexus 4 General] Unlawful:
And it's just a mistake :(, only UK, France and Germany are. Here.
[Nexus 4 General] thghost:
Only if they do a customs check at the Indian airport. It would be better if he just puts the boxes inside check-in bag and carries the phone in his pocket.. :) just a thought.

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I am definitely buying one. but do any of u guys think, it would work out cheaper if we ordered it from US? I see a 50$ price difference plus if we convert AUD to USD, we would end up spending even less AUD than 299USD for 8GB one.. :) (roughly it comes as 299USD = 287AUD)

Do any of u think its worth it?
[Nexus 4 General] Mighty Arceus493:
I wish it would work that way, but did you think about overseas shipping, taxes and all that stuff that will bring up the price?
[Nexus 4 General] thghost:
YES... I tried to find out as much details as i can..

According to the law, we can import telecommunications devices without taxes for retail costs up to 1000AUD..

As far as shipping goes, it costs 30$ approx USD for shipping from US. so its about 10AUD extra ( 20$ AUD as it is if we buy from aussie play store for P&H)

I guess,, the only problem would be if i need to claim warranty... ... ?????? Does Play store provide international warranty by any chance?

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If u r wondering if its by end of November then its highly unlikely.. Most retailers would start selling by mid to late December.. Atleast, thats the news in tech sites. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Mighty Arceus493:
Hm.... What I don't get why it would take a month to get a phone into stores within the first two weeks of its release? If it comes out in December, that would be pretty late for me :( Well, I'll just have to wait and see (but I'm impatient :p )

Good night people
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Definitely buying one as soon as it hits the Play Store. Just a few more days to go.

I'm curious whether it's going to be midnight on the 13th or later on in the day.
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Don't know why Google just didnt partner with a shipping company like Lego do with DHL and let the shipper manage warehouse and logistics.

That would have probably meant that a quantity of phones could have been pre-shipped to Australia ahead of release and stored in a FedEx warehouse for local distribution.

It appears that the phones are coming from HK via SG....
[Nexus 4 General] noobdeagle:
i think that they are schedualed for pickup on the 15th, remember that singapore (where google was processing our orders from) was on a public holiday on the 13th so Fedex probably got an automated shipping manifest for our packages on the 13th but google singapore only processed on the 14th

just speculation but i doubt we will see it till Friday (if your in Sydney) and everywhere else probably the Monday due to transport from sydney to other states.
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
From whirlpool
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
@psy Logical if the destination is Perth.

I think eastern states (such as syd mel) will be flown directly to their syd, mel depot
[Nexus 4 General] shayne77:
Anyone know if stock will become available soon? Have Google announced anything?
[Nexus 4 General] goat_on_boat:
Ok so, I called the play store (about my phone which has not even been given a shipping estimate yet):

He said my order looks good, but it was a very late one - so it will be one of the last to be dispatched.

They have to get through alot of stock before they get to the later ones!

Anyway, I think if your all lucky - tomorrow is when they will arrive. If you live a bit further out of a major CBD though - probably monday latest!
[Nexus 4 General] :
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2010894

^^ whirlpool nexus 4 shipping thread

Seems one guy there is getting regular updates, his says its in transit at Singapore.
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
If no1 has received theirs today (thus far) I dont think anyone is getting it until tomorrow or next week.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Yep I agree with you there
[Nexus 4 General] Teejai80:
I just wish Google would give more information. They would know when stock is hitting shops, when the next shipment to Singapore and all that jazz. This is not their first hardware fling and I think everyone was expecting them to handle this launch a lot better.

I've ordered a RAZR HD, but can still cancell if we get an update before tomorrow.

Oh and did anyone else try the "auto refresh plus" trick on the aus store? I had it running for hours with no luck. :(
[Nexus 4 General] shayne77:
If Google don't indicate a timeframe for stock replenishment, considering this instead...

http://www.mobicity.com.au/lg-p880-optimus-4x.html
[Nexus 4 General] Kvoth:
I wouldn't recommend it. The bootloader is locked (no custom ROMs) and LG's software tweaks are abysmal. Battery life sucks due to the power-hungry tegra Soc.

They're cheap phones because no one wants them.
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
Noone in Australia's got one yet hey?

Has anyone's FedEx changed from initiated? Its kinda bugging me that it hasn't updated... Or hasn't moved
[Nexus 4 General] InsaneCheese:
The tracking is the thing that is annoying me, I don't mind waiting - as long as I know what is happening with it. I've had stuff shipped by just about everyone, and every other company I have used has had a tracking website that updates within hours if not minutes of it being scanned. 24hrs is bull.
[Nexus 4 General] Teejai80:
Not to throw a dump sock. Lol

But has anyone, ever (apart from same day) had a FedEx delivery after 3pm?
[Nexus 4 General] eminemkh:
Still waiting for the new batch..
[Nexus 4 General] :
People are claiming delivery on Whirlpool, might be trolling though...
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
mine is REALLY odd now, I was one of the first batch, but it's sitting on initiated and my ETA just disappeared, says they have information about it but no actual package to deliver. Anyone in a similar position?
[Nexus 4 General] :
There's people on Whirlpool claiming the same. ETAs have disappeared.
[Nexus 4 General] coreytsd:
My delivery date has gone from 15th to N/A. Fair enough I guess; would of been surprised if had travelled from Hong Kong to Melbourne in 24 hours. Sad panda still :(
[Nexus 4 General] :
Someone just made a good point on Whirlpool - its probably automated as the system knows it is now past the expected ETA, so it just automatically drops it off.
[Nexus 4 General] baldric:
mines currently listed as in transit in singapore.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Are you in the UK or AU? Your profile says UK
[Nexus 4 General] :
Delayed in Hong Kong. Tracking is right for most of us, pick-up from FedEx has not been made yet.
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
first country to order, not first country to receive
[Nexus 4 General] :
Yeh, this is true unfortunately. Some people in the US received theirs today.
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Looks like most of wont be getting them until Monday. :(
[Nexus 4 General] Teejai80:
If you remember, it was a public holiday in Singapore on order day. Wait why would they go through HK if storage is in Singapore?
[Nexus 4 General] irishrally:
That's not true.
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
Which part?
[Nexus 4 General] :
Check the main play store order thread, there's people taking photos with them etc..

Unless they're ones purchased from T-Mobile... however im pretty sure people there were saying they got delivered?
[Nexus 4 General] noobdeagle:
thats if this is correct, who knows still its just someone on the phone could just be misinformation, however given current status' its plausable.

im still hopeful that ill see it tomorrow. they might ship it on higher priority because of this maybe ?
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
I hoping for tomorrow. It would be great to have it in time for the weekend. I have a feeling it's not going to happen though. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] shaymu:
I ordered mine on Nov 13, 2012 12:49:57 PM EST. Still no email saying its been shipped.... whats going on with mine? anyone in same situation?

I hope my order is still alive.. I remember some of nexus 7 orders got cancelled last time.
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
Try the following i saw on WP
[Nexus 4 General] :
Update on my tracking! In transit! :)
[Nexus 4 General] jackierobinson:
My status literally just got updated then

- 11/15/2012 - Thursday

6:33 pm

Picked up

LANTAU ISLAND HK

Package received after FedEx cutoff

6:33 pm

Left FedEx origin facility

LANTAU ISLAND HK

- 11/13/2012 - Tuesday

8:11 am

Shipment information sent to FedEx
[Nexus 4 General] :
Estimated delivery tomorrow! Here we go again haha
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
November 21 arrival its saying for me! :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
My eta is Monday. Boo.

Just got the email update from FedEx.
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Mine too. Oh well. At least we are getting some tracking info now. :)
[Nexus 4 General] jackierobinson:
So Melbourne is Monday and Sydney is tomorrow. Makes sense seeing as Fed Ex goes through Sydney first then to Melbourne (and Taz).
[Nexus 4 General] :
Here's the email

This shipment was tendered to FedEx Express on 11/15/2012.

Reference information includes:

Reference:153xxxxxxxxxxx

Estimated delivery:Nov 16, 2012

Service type:FedEx International Priority

Packaging type:Your Packaging

Number of pieces:1

Weight:1.00 kg.

Special handling/Services:Deliver Weekday

Residential Delivery
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
I'm in sydney but I'm told Monday
[Nexus 4 General] :
Where in Sydney?

And has anyone's actual fedex tracking page updated? No change of mine, only the email
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
Also in syd and saying Monday.

Edit. I'm near parra

Last update:

Nov 15, 2012 6:34 PM

Left FedEx origin facility

Location

LANTAU ISLAND HK

Wonder where it's goin next if not to .au
[Nexus 4 General] :
Hmmmm I'm actually in Parra. Unless my email is wrong and when the actual tracking page updates, it'll give me a different date?
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
Kensington area. and no I still don't have any updates on the originally provided tracking page
[Nexus 4 General] :
OK my tracking page just updated and now it says Monday by 6pm
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
My tracking page has updated
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
These are almost identical times to my Nexus 7 order last week. I highly doubt it will be arriving tomorrow. Monday it is by the looks of it.

I've posted my Nexus 7 tracking details below for anyone interested. As you can see at the bottom, the time is almost the same as what some people are seeing now in their Nexus 4 tracking details:

11/12/2012 – Monday

2:12 pm

Delivered

DESTINATION VIC AU

8:26 am

On FedEx vehicle for delivery

DERRIMUT AU

7:16 am

At local FedEx facility

DERRIMUT AU

- 11/11/2012 – Sunday

9:46 am

International shipment release – Import

DERRIMUT AU

9:46 am

In transit

DERRIMUT AU

Package available for clearance

- 11/10/2012 – Saturday

12:33 am

In transit

LANTAU ISLAND HK

- 11/08/2012 – Thursday

11:36 pm

At local FedEx facility

LANTAU ISLAND HK

11:00 pm

Left FedEx origin facility

YUEN LONG HK

6:01 pm

Picked up

YUEN LONG HK

Package received after FedEx cutoff
[Nexus 4 General] n7of9:
mine is also now in transit, to sydney, for delivery monday

odd, when i change the fedex timezone to 'destination' it says my package was picked up at 2.30am on 16 Nov - which is 5 hours from now
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
If the thing arrives tomorrow. But misses all the delivery schedules. Could one request to pick it up?
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
If you call FedEx (132 610) I'm fairly certain they can hold it at the depot for you.
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
I rather it delivered. I'm visiting a friend in Mascot on Saturday. So if possible I might just pick it up since I'm there

I guess we'll get a clearer picture if it lands in syd.au tomorrow morning
[Nexus 4 General] :
Do they allow pickup on Saturday?
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
Have no idea. I recall a mate doing it but there's strict time periods (before 12)

Don't quote me thou.

Ill wait and see if there's any update on the parcel tomorrow and see what I do from there if it lands here tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
Did anyone else get a Wednesday delivery time quoted or am I the only unlucky one?

I am in Tassie though
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
How does it work for ppl down in tassie?

Does it go via melb > tas?

Could that be a possibility
[Nexus 4 General] jackierobinson:
so if pick up is possible tomorrow it will only be from Sydney? Maybe I'll catch a flight up :D
[Nexus 4 General] InsaneCheese:
So Shipping updates and I'm supposed to have it delivered yesterday?
[Nexus 4 General] :
The email wasn't accurate for me, check on the fedex website :)
[Nexus 4 General] InsaneCheese:
Hmm odd, the FedEx website recons its N/A :/
[Nexus 4 General] zhaoweizhi:
weight

Hi, guys, I got the "Tendered to FedEx" e-mail. But there is a big question, why the shipment is 0.50 kg not same as other guys' 0.7Kg? Is there anybody' shipment same to me? And there is not ETAs.

Reference information includes:

Reference:	1598199037496820

Estimated delivery:	Nov 14, 2012

Service type:	FedEx International Priority

Packaging type:	Your Packaging

Number of pieces:	1

Weight:	0.50 kg.

Special handling/Services:	Deliver Weekday

Residential Delivery

Status:	At local FedEx facility
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
0.7kg is probably the more abnormal number here, based on what I know, most people have it as 0.5kg, i ordered 2 and the weight was 1kg. Now the phone itself is supposedly less than 200g so I have no idea where did the 300g come from
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Anyone who ordered a bumper got shipping info yet?
[Nexus 4 General] Skanob:
Got one question, how much were you charged upon confirming the order? I mean the total charge, all.inclusive (phone + shipping)?

I heard 8Gbs are $299 and 16Gbs are $349 for the US, for just the phone. What about in Australia?
[Nexus 4 General] noobdeagle:
399 for phone 16gb + 20ish for shipping

Remember in america prices don't include taxes ours do
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Fedex status updated, Est Delivery of Monday for me in Melbourne.. says that it was picked up after the cut off as well so I might be looking at Tuesday unless they move things around on weekends.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Mine is heavier coz I ordered 2
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Mine is 0.5 with one Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] :
Nope :(
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Thanks for replying :)

It would seem that noone in the world has had the bumper ship yet, and orders where the bumper was included with the devices aren't shipping purely because they have the bumper in them.
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
http://wap-asia.fedex.com/hktrade/en/

used the link above with my tracking number and found my item on flight QF 128 from HK to Sydney , touches down at 8 20 am Friday
[Nexus 4 General] :
When the phones were released for ordering, the bumpers weren't released yet so I couldn't actually order them together. It was only by chance that I was looking at the page an hour or so later and noticed that the bumpers were available to buy so I grabbed some!

Maybe in the US they could order them together?

Edit:

Mine is on QF128 too! Lands at 7:40AM in the morning! :)
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
;)

there is a super high possibility alot of people will get theres tomorrow

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by the way QF128 comes to australia every day at 8:20 am so dont get your hopes to high, it might be some other day.lol, but according to the nexus 7 i bought before tomorrow one is the one
[Nexus 4 General] :
Where did you find that link though? Whats ur current status on FedEx?

Edit:

Well Lantau Island is only 20 minutes from HK International Airport.. so good possibility
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
The only thing I can say about that is that information was not available when I checked it 2 hours ago. so with any luck they updated their database after the item got onboard
[Nexus 4 General] :
The plane left HK at 8PM though... my tracking says my package left Lantau Island at 6:30 (HK time) and then at 9:15PM I have another notification saying its in transit. I wonder whether it made it on the plane or not.

Edit:

It does say it was received after cut-off. If it left Lantau at 6:30, 30 mins drive to HK International - that only leaves an hour for the items to be x-rayd and packed onto the plane... a bit tight.. I'm thinking it didn't make it :(
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/flights/flight-arrivals-and-departures.aspx?searchLEG=A&searchType=I

choose any date and ull see the same arrival time
[Nexus 4 General] :
A guy posted this on Whirpool for his Nexus 7:

Oct 17, 2012 13:14Delivery exceptionRYDALMERE AUCustomer not available or business closed

Oct 17, 2012 12:52On FedEx vehicle for deliveryRYDALMERE AU

Oct 17, 2012 12:35At local FedEx facilityRYDALMERE AU

Oct 17, 2012 10:47In transitALEXANDRIA AU

Oct 17, 2012 09:39In transitALEXANDRIA AUPackage available for clearance

Oct 17, 2012 09:39International shipment release – ImportALEXANDRIA AU

Oct 16, 2012 20:05In transitLANTAU ISLAND HK << same plane too, QF128

Oct 15, 2012 23:30At local FedEx facilityLANTAU ISLAND HK

Oct 15, 2012 22:45Left FedEx origin facilityYUEN LONG HK

Oct 15, 2012 16:35Picked upYUEN LONG HK

From this, ours is at the same Lantau Island transit stage. The next update after that was arrival in Sydney and then it was delivered sameday. If our N4s are on that plane, I think we'll get them tomorrow!! :)
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
yeh but thats only a replacemet unit , its not like a big as batch .. i think his one was much quick to arrive then the units were takin at the same time
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
grateful to be living close to Alexandria
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
once in sydney it really doesnt matter .. unless there are many thousands of units which i doubt ...
[Nexus 4 General] :
Yepp.. if mine is at Alexandria tomorrow and there's any chance it might not make it on the truck, I'm gonna duck out there really quick and pick it up in person! I'm too impatient to wait the entire weekend for Monday haha
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
bad news .. flight qf128 left hong kong airport at 7:55 pm ...
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
yes I have some concerns about that as well
[Nexus 4 General] :
Why bad? still gives it an hour to get packed onboard
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
mine was scanned in transit at 21:15 in hk the flight was gone at 7:55 pm .. unless fedfex trackin is not really synchronous ..
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
my item was also scanned at 2115, I would imagine that joeykatoa would be the same as well?
[Nexus 4 General] willybarca:
yeh we're all in the same boat ..:)

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fk it , i waited this long for this phone to come out ..ill wait another couple of days ..beside iam sure google is already making the next nexus which might be with diff vendor ...and am sure am gettin that as well .. so all this hype might be for couple of months only .. then again everything starts from scratch .lol
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
She'll be coming round the mountain when she comes.......
[Nexus 4 General] :
Check ur tracking, my order is in Alexandria. It was on that plane! Woohoo!!! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Teejai80:
Anyone on here get back ordered?
[Nexus 4 General] Nark.GA60:
Mine says it's still in Hong Kong. :(
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
Cleared @ 0944 so theres a huge possibility it will make it to the Rydalmere depot and possibility delivery today!
[Nexus 4 General] poid:
same

i expected them to come yesterday/today. Looks like one batch will while others wont.

no matter, at least we are getting one so a couple more days is fine with me.
[Nexus 4 General] chronophysicist:
same except mine says 9;34am
[Nexus 4 General] :
I think I gotta run to the Telstra store and get a new SIM card... this phone takes the micro sim yeah? The same as iPhone 4/4S?
[Nexus 4 General] Teejai80:
Yes same as iPhone 4
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Mines still in HK too.

Gotta get a new sim from Telstra also. Will do that on Monday, as I believe burning a new sim cancels the old one.
[Nexus 4 General] Mischaseb:
Just cut it down with a sharp knife, thats what i did
[Nexus 4 General] Nark.GA60:
Same. You can also use a specifically-designed punch to cut it. You can find them on eBay for bugger all.
[Nexus 4 General] eren18:
Just checked FeDex and it seems my order is currently in Alexandria depot

Date/Time	Activity	Location

-

11/16/2012 - Friday

9:56 am

In transit

ALEXANDRIA AU

Package available for clearance

Do you think i can get it today?
[Nexus 4 General] meno69:
Just had fedex call asking for how much the goods were for as he was clearing them in customs!
[Nexus 4 General] gypsy214:
You guys seen that T-Mobile is advertising the phone with an sd card slot, Can any body proof this or is it a bad info from tmobile
[Nexus 4 General] :
Bad info
[Nexus 4 General] jok4h:
2012-11-16 10:56:00+11:00

In transit

ALEXANDRIA, , AU

So its going to Rydalmere.

Wonder if it can make it onto a van
[Nexus 4 General] Nucleotide:
Mine hasn't made it to ALEXANDRIA yet. Must have caught a later flight. :)
[Nexus 4 General] mohok:
Same here. So annoying. Looks like it will be Monday after all.
[Nexus 4 General] I Can Be Your Hero:
Yeah mine has been at Lantau Island for the last 24 hours and didn't make last nights flight to Australia.

So now it will (hopefully) be on a flight today, which means they'll be ****ing around getting it to Brisbane on Monday so I'll probably get it on Tuesday.

Anyone know when the next flight from Lantau Island to Australia would be? Or any way to find out?
[Nexus 4 General] psy:
Would have thought it'd make it to MEL over the w/end.