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[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Got my Nexus 4!!

Hi All,

I finally got my Nexus 4 today morning. Was a bit busy with classes/customising my device. [ Rooted it almost immediately with CM10.1 Kang + Franco r28; Plus had issues with the micro sim I cut, even though it was working fine with my S2 with an adapter so had to go to Airtel's office to get it fixed. Got a new micro sim, but still not activated]

Quick Thoughts:

After restoring all my apps and setup, seems to have better battery life than my S2. Can't say for sure without a week's use, though. Rebooted at least 7-8 times, but got 2hrs,30 mins screen on time with 39% battery remaining. It was hot initially , when media service was running [when I put all my songs and videos inside]. But otherwise, seems to not run hot. Haven't tried extensively playing games though.

Bought it with the bumper. Though a bit wide, it is worth it. Looks solid and is not slippery as claimed by some. BTW, my CPU is listed as faster, which means I can probably UV it a lot !! :P Screen looks quite good, but a little washed out coming from SGS2 which is an AMOLED screen. But love the white!! [ definitely not yellowish plus tweaked the colour settings a bit and seems to be quite accurate in my eyes. ]

Love the build and feel of the device. Doesn't feel fragile at all. But the volume and power keys don't feel that good. [ very little feedback, compared to my S2; bumper alleviates the issue a bit though]. A great thing about the screen is , I could now put most of my apps to light mode, instead of the night mode [white text over black] which I used to run to preserve battery on my S2.

PS:FYI, I shipped it via HSG/DHL. It cost me 5$ [ was in constant touch with the customer care, who assured me that they'll honor the promo offer of 1 KG free express shipping even if the device reaches a bit late to their address ] + 1076 Rs [ 350 Rs - Customs and other DHL charges]. Cheers. Do let me know if you guys have any questions :)

Have attached a couple of pics taken from my S2.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Once product is delivered by Google via UPS you'll get a mail in about 3-4 hours and it will show up in your borderlinx account.

Once listed on borderlinx make sure price is correct, category is cell phone and shipper is Google. If not send them a mail with invoice and they'll fix it.

After this select ship. Fill relevant info and make payment via card which comes to about $40. After this they'll start shipping process and you'll have it in 5-6 days. You don't have to pay anything extra after this. DHL might charge few bucks extra if they consider your place as remote. You can check if your address is considered remote or not from their website.

I ordered mine on 2nd from borderlinx and it's now in Delhi and has cleared customs. Hopefully it will ship out tonight and I'll have it with me tomorrow.

Sent from Jellybeaned I9100 using XDA Premium
[Nexus 4 General] vaibkulk:
Congrats Hrithan2020..enjoy the new phone...i am just hoping that it comes on play store soon now...waiting to buy it for a long time...
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
U bought 2 nexus 4.

Do u want to sell 1 of them?? I m interested to buy.
[Nexus 4 General] demon507:
mine is ordered on dec9 still no shipping mail...
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
Hey guys is there any separate modem suitable for India?
[Nexus 4 General] depletion:
I purchased item from eb.com but unable to make payment in paypal it says contact merchant

rep 1 said since i updated auth code today it wil take 24hrs

rep 2 said i can do it right away

Rep 3 said since its a huge transaction she asked me to contact seller to send invoice which i did and stil im facing same problem but rep also sugested login as a guest user in payl to pay which i dnt knw how to do .

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Also im confused about borderlinx address .Address shows as borderlink with DHL address eg(Borderlinx/DHL 12345678

**************

Dayton

45424-5760

OH

U.S.A

which adddress to usae in ebay as shipping address and what to use as contact address?
[Nexus 4 General] _KP:
i made a huge blunder while selecting the proper address to deliver to from HSG . The address was without the city name :(...but it has the pin code , street name and all..is it cause to worry or its ok since it has the pin code ? I've already finished the payment and sent them an email about this within 5 mins of the payment.
[Nexus 4 General] vickysud:
Guys can anyone help me with detailed procedure please thinking of buying N4. is it only available through play store ?
[Nexus 4 General] kirandanduprolu:
I assume that you have a registered email address with them and they must've provided you a shipment request id or so. In that case send an email from your registered email address mentioning that you need your shipping address corrected wrt that shipping request id to their customer service.

I dont think it should be a problem, but why take the risk.

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The opening post is all about that, however N4's are not in stock since last 20 days
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
This question is for anyone who's ordered via comGateway/HopShopGo.

I've ordered the Nexus 4, a screen protector and a phone case at ComGateway, and I will get them consolidated and shipped. I have one doubt, would I have to mark these item's categories separately? Will ComGateway ask me to mark the categories of these 3 items separately? And will these 3 items be packaged together?
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
- No. For me, they marked the phone as CELL PHONE, the case and screen protector as CELL PHONE ACC.

- No, they won't ask you to mark categories.

- No, they will not be packaged together, they will be 3 separate packages (the phone one being a box, and the other two, in my case Skinomi FBP and Diztronic Matte Black TPU Case in DHL envelopes).

I just had this shipment delivered today at Bangalore. :)

Customs charged in case you're interested - Rs. 1076.26 - includes all 3 packages.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Ah, brilliant! Can't wait to ship mine. I chose Amazon 2 day shipping on the 3rd of Jan, still waiting for the Ringke case -_-
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
Buying this phone was a huge mistake. I always had a bad feeling about this phone when I read the reviews but I was a fool to think this issue is rare. I have the famous earpiece buzz static. I can't make a single call via Bluetooth or wired earpiece without constant moaning screeches of statics like that of a 56kbps modem connecting to the internet. Its that bad. The first day of the phone and this. I'm returning this piece of junk. I can't even make calls without being deafened by the static noise so what's the point of having a phone? Sigh back to the good old trusty s2 it seems.
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
yeah totally man terrible phone compared to s2 i mean you have a faulty device blame every single nexus 4 for it that's what cool kids do .

why not sell the s2 also and buy an iphone 5 i see them advertsing active noise cancellation as its a "NEW" feature it will be amazing .

anyway bye , Good riddance.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Same address is to be used. Borderlinx has a office in DHL warehouse as DHL is their shipping partner.

Sent from Jellybeaned I9100 using XDA Premium
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
One? Where do you live? Nexus 4 thread is filled with complaints. Static sounds, yellow screen tints, easy back and front screen cracks. Seems I was bound to end up one. Check s2 thread. Nothing but happy users. You can't argue it was a much more reliable phone. So, your n4 has no problem at all? I googled my problem and it seems people have opened a ticket for this problem and there are hundreds and hundreds of people with this problem. Worse, many have got it replaced upto 3 times ans still ended up with this problem. Tell when such things have happened in s2. My argument is valid, don't bring iPhone and other such useless arguments into this, if you have a valid point then bring it up. BTW no noise cancellation in world can get rid of this noise which sounds like electrical interference.
[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
3310,solid build, awesome battery life. 1100-torch. 2 devices you could consider. Since you are going back in time.
[Nexus 4 General] yoshimitsu1234:
So if courier asks for extra money we could refuse to pay extra?

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When did your phone get delivered? Was it in second batch? What's your hw rev number? 10 or 11?
[Nexus 4 General] subindev:
It seems that my nexus is reached Mumbai.

but SNS charged me 712 rupees for customs clearance. Is this fare ?

The 2% charge on mobile phone is never happened right ?
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
If you ordered via borderlinx then yes. In fact when my friend called DHL they said everything will be paid by borderlinx and we need not pay anything extra. If you order through HSG and ship via DHL then am not sure how they handle it. I guess HSG does not include customs and you need to pay DHL separately for it.
[Nexus 4 General] Dragooon123:
Who told you that? It always happens, although is generally 4% AFAIK
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
Its second batch. I'm not sure what hw rev number means. Please explain so I can check.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Custom charges is 2% and clearing charges are further 2% so it comes to about 4%.
[Nexus 4 General] Ankit Tulsian:
Contact customer care they will give you the current import charge list for all items. How much it costed for shipping in inr?
[Nexus 4 General] Pratz1:
Just curious, how is that some boxes are not opened by customs at all and are left sealed?
[Nexus 4 General] yoshimitsu1234:
I think you can check it by booting phone with volume up + down + power button.
[Nexus 4 General] Pratz1:
Utter Bull****, mine is perfect...all the phones be it S3 or S2 or any iphone all have had their share of problems, specially with the initial batches. You just got lucky with S2 and unlucky with N4, that's it. I think Nexus 4, being so much more desired than those, that all the small problems are being projected as major bugs and easily people are blaming LG. Go and check the problems HTC one X had and also the iphone 5. If you still think it is a piece of junk then i would advise you to buy a Nokia 3310 if its available anywhere.
[Nexus 4 General] karanits:
Any of you guys want some free nfc tags?

Go to nfcnetstore.com and you can get free samples from them. Provided you give them a valid reason. :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Guys did anyone buy writable NFC tags for Nexus 4 in India? AFAIK Nexus 4 can only detect but not write to the tags that work with Sony/Samsung phones.

I see only tags compatible with Sony/Samsung on ebay, these tags are identified by Nexus but cannot write to it.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
+1!! I remember when S2 was out there was a big hue and cry about screen problems. The actual %age of defective N4 may as well be 0.01%, but that still means that you will find over 1000 people complaining about this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
I don't think a deafening static during calls is a "small" bug. And why the hell would I want Nokia when I clearly said I still have my s2. Can't you read? Plus no reason to act all butthurt over my opinion. Its my opinion about the phone and if you don't like it there's no reason whine about it. I simply stated what I thought about the phone. Plus I challenge you to find so many complaint threads for s2 compared to n4. There simply are not so many. How do explain a guy getting his two n4's with same defect as mine and even after getting one replaced 3 times and the other 2 times still ending up with same defect even with RMA'd ones? Yes, this is complaint by a user in Google issues section under android code. Please, I've had s2 for 2 years and seen all kinds of threads for it. Just Google search this particular problem of mine and you will see not just users but even review sites stating this defect.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
I understand your frustration, and I am familiar with people who've had such issues. And deafening static during calls in not a minor bug. [but there seems to be variation of it, where the amount of buzzing is so little that many people notice only after being informed about this and testing it in a quiet room, as you may be familiar with after searching]. You just got unlucky and got a particularly bad lot and it seems possible that the defect rate may be higher for Nexus 4 compared to SGS2 [who knows, maybe 0.05% vs 0.01% or 0.5% vs 0.1%].

Anyway, lets not argue about this. You can go back to using your S2 happily, and probably switch to some other phone later on. [or RMA it] Good luck, good bye.
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
Thank you for relevant post unlike the previous ones which were completely useless. I don't whine or crib much about things. I mean look at people complaining about battery, slippery glass back, bad colours, bad camera blah blah. I'm not that picky. But I can't simply tolerate loud static sounds during calls. I'm sorry, but that's just asking too much of a compromise from a paying user. This is a very REAL problem and I appreciate your positive response. Unfortunately I've been dealt a really bad model because I don't get the faint buzzing. Its a pretty loud static. Now its obvious I live India and RMA would be very hard which further aggregates my frustration. I simply feel Google has done a inappreciable job with nexus 4 because this problem is spread across tons of forums and review sites. Unfortunately I'll have to go back to s2 till I arrange for an RMA because first and foremost I must be able to use my phone for calling.
[Nexus 4 General] kaushiknfs:
did you actually get them to do it? will they ship to india? any rough steps - cant see anything except shopping cart?
[Nexus 4 General] karanits:
I have. All free

http://www.nfcnetstore.com/NFC+tag+samples/p/81/

select free samples via post. But they will ask for a reason for giving you free samples. Figure that out yourself. :p
[Nexus 4 General] depletion:
May be they check product randomly but as long as the phne and other stuff is in good shape thhats more than enought.I know we always want to open the box from our end as it gives you that excitement/Anyways congrats for your nexus
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
What issues u r facing?????? Should I buy Nexus 4 or not :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
Buzzing sounds from earpiece during calls. Its static noise which you hear in PC speakers due to electrical interference. But the problem disappears as soon as I keep something on the speaker of the phone which is quite weird. Read its a very common problem due to defective plating in the phone. People here saying that I was just unlucky but I beg to differ. I just talked to three more guys from my old s2 community who got n4 and ALL had this problem though of varying intensity. You know whats more funny? Even after RMA the new piece they got had the same defect, all THREE of them without exception Lol. Now I'm 100% certain this is not a rare but a common issue. I'm very sure consumer is more likely to end up with a defective piece than non defective one. You can even Google search nexus 4 earpiece buzzing/static noise. There are tons of thread and reviews on it. I can't recommend anything as I'm not an expert here but personally I feel me buying n4 was a mistake coz even after RMA I'm more likely to again end up with defective piece. The only saving grace is intensity of this noise. Some people are lucky enough to have a faint noise and some like me hear deafening static noise in call which makes phone calls useless. The people with less noise have simply adjusted to it. Now I'm not saying that its a bad phone coz every other feature just exceeds my expectation. But this one flaw is so fatal that it destroys the phone coz what's the use of high tech smartphone of you can't even make calls.
[Nexus 4 General] CrazySpartan:
I think those who ordered via PPOBOX didn't have their seals opened but then again it all depends on customs. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
@fatjivi...... I think the problem u r talking about noise while making calls due to some fault in motherboard.

May be the possible reason is google forced LG to make high end hardware phone at very cheap price. So shayad LG used some cheap internal parts.

Fact - the cost for building galaxy S3 for Samsung is 17500 rs (350$)..So u can imagine both phones n4 and s3 has same hardware but s3 building cost is 350$ where as nexus 4 selling cost is 350$. and then of course after selling nexus 4 LG and google earning some money.

So the question is what is the building cost of nexus 4 :confused:.. How much cheap motherboard, chips LG used :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] fatjivi:
@exynoss I understand your point and its completely valid but in the end user has to suffer. I would have been so much happier if they made device more expensive but stable like Sammy phones. I wanted pure Google experience but not at the cost of comfort. On one hand I have Sammy phones which are stable with rare problems but I hate their touchwiz and lack of support for dev community and slow updates. But on the other hand I have this Google phone which has everything perfect as I wanted but this fatal bug almost in every other phone makes it a very questionable device.
[Nexus 4 General] rinsejohn:
I have ordered through HSG and even my shipping got a bit delayed & the product reached on Jan 6th. So will I get an exemption for the shipping? If yes, whom do i contact?
[Nexus 4 General] Pratz1:
Yea maybe but that's weird, i'm sure all those who shipped with DHL had their box open by customs...in my case infact the phone was switched on at the time of delivery....sucks!
[Nexus 4 General] rinsejohn:
How many days does it take to ship from HopShopGo to India (after clearing customs)? I chose for Standard shipping.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Update:Regarding my N4

Source? I am almost 100% sure that cost of building S3 is significantly lower than 350$. [not incl. advertising expenses of course, for which samsung has spent more than google+apple+ms combined previous year!!] [iPhone's BOM are always estimated to be below 200$ only and don't tell me that Galaxy S3 uses more premium materials than iPhone. iPhone's SOC alone would cost at least 1.5x the cost of Samsung's, if built by a third party]. But, it seems quite likely that there may have been poor QC from LG's side. [deliberately or not, I am not sure]

BTW, as you may be knowing n4 and s3 don't have same hardware. Diff proc,screen,baseband etc. The business model which is likely is that google is selling the phone at cost. Paying ~350$ to LG for the phone [ 350 less other expenses incurred by google]. Carriers when buying from LG also get subsidized rates. [ maybe not 350$ but certainly below 500$, say 450$; also considering that for 16GB, google would be paying ~400$, the difference that LG makes is not that high as you think. Certainly not double, as some people seem to believe]

Mine reached on Dec 31, but was processed only on 2nd. I was in constant contact with customer care much before that. [ sent to HSG only because they said they'll be a bit lenient and will honour my offer]. Contact the customer care via email.

For me, it took 5 days for express shipping. [shipped on 2nd, and received on 7th, Monday] . I would've received it earlier had it been not a weekend. So I guess for standard should be around a week [7-8 days]

@All,

An update: I checked and apparently my phone is HW Rev 10. Right now @20% battery at ~21hr use with 3hr 52min screen on time. [Running CM10.1,Franco r28, Google Now off, Automatic brightness; Sync on]. Much better than my S2 on the same setup. [ Of course, without all the apps and syncing, I could have got better battery life on both devices].

And today, my microsim was enabled by Airtel. Tried calling to make sure there were no buzzing sound, and it seems great. The sound seems to be unusually high though.. [coming from S2 and S] , which is a good thing as I don't need to put at max volume, when trying to call someone.

Very happy with the device :D
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
@hrithan....What is HW rev. 10

and how is the audio quality in earphone/headset if compare to s2. I know it depends on headset as well currently i have skullcandy riot series headset. I bought it from flipkart worth rs 1250.. I hope this headset + nexus 4 will give awesome sound.

Yaar i have S3 right now. I want nexus 4 in this week. but don't know from where i can get this. I m ready to pay 25k 16gb on the spot. I live in delhi.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Currently there are Nexus 4s with two revisions of hardware floating around - 10 and 11. Some minor changes made in 11. Neither one is particularly better than the other, both have similar problems. You can check your HW revision number by booting into Fastboot mode (vol down + power when switched off).

Bro, you're never going to get a 16GB model for 25k unless there's something seriously wrong with it. Literally everyone would be willing to pay that amount on the spot for one. :P

Why do you want N4 anyway? I don't think it's that much of an upgrade from S3. What will you do with your S3 if you manage to get an N4? I personally would've been very happy with an S3 (until the S4 comes out that is :D)!
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
There are right now reportedly two build versions of N4. HW rev. 10 which was the earliest one and rev. 11 which many people are now getting. Noone knows for sure, what the difference is between these version, however there are speculations that it fixes some of the h/w issues like the rattling,earpiece buzzing which some %age of peope were having. As you can see, everything [I tested] runs fine on my rev. 10 Nexus 4 and battery life is also quite good. [ considering my setup ].

I use two earphones - soundmagic e10m and sony mh1c . [have few others like meelectronics m6, soundmagic pl30, sennheiser hd 347 etc which I don't use now ]. However, haven't really tested them . But, I am pretty sure it would be better than S2 . [as S2 was having relatively poor audioquality]. The loudspeaker quality is definitely better.

But, vs S3, I am not sure whether Nexus 4 will prevail as I've heard that S3 has better audio quality from various sources. Hope you are able to get it soon. If the next wave of Nexus 4 has lots of items, then the price in grey markets for N4 will definitely go down. Meanwhile, keep checking your local retailers. You just might be lucky and get it @25k.

One of our xda member's friend got it for 16k w/o bill or box, from a shop owner who was a noob.!!

I see, you replied ealier. ed10000 is right. Unless you like AOSP that much and are tired of touchwiz, N4 is hardly that much of an upgrade compared to S3. [and downgrade in other aspects like camera quality to boot]. But, the thing is if you are able to get N4 for less than 25k, you'll probably be able to sell S3 around that value itself if it's not very old. So you won't lose much money :P

If you dislike touchwiz, you probably won't like S4 as well, but there are phones like Sony Experia ZL which look great, and offer good support. [ easy flashing to AOSP-based ROM's like cyanogenmod unlike S3 ; which comes with lots of issues bcoz of closed source drivers and binary blobs].
[Nexus 4 General] kirandanduprolu:
Nexus 4 will probably remain faster than the next generation 5" 1080p phones equipped with Snapdragon Pro S4 and Adreno 320 as it has far fewer pixels to process compared to the newer generation.
[Nexus 4 General] depletion:
Can anyone tell me what is the purpose of google wallet and how it can be used im kinda confused
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
It holds your credit card info, same as the web version. You can use NFC to make payments using wallet on NFC enabled terminals instead of swiping your cards.