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[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
@ed10000 and @hrithan2020...

U guys r right.. Moving from s3 to nexus 4 is technically downgrade. The main difference is camera but no worry i hardly use camera. Actually in past i have galaxy s1, s2, and now s3... Get bored from Samsung and touchwiz.. In s3 from the first day i m using AOSP AND AOKP roms. I m a big fan of vanilla android.

Can anyone tell me If i hate touchwiz then y i also hate nexus 4??

I will sell my S3 this week. Mine is approx 6 months old... It has 2 yrs warranty + 2 yrs theft + accidental insurance. I m expecting 27k. I also have 1 silicon back cover.

I can also do the exchange with nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
with the snap dragon 800 launched which is 75% faster than S4 pro . Nexus 4 will within months lose its charm
[Nexus 4 General] kirandanduprolu:
It would take a year before you see them on Phones available in the market. Prolly the next Nexus will be powered by the beast.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Sorry mate, somehow missed your post earlier. It left US on 2nd at noon, and was delivered to me on 7th at 9.45pm. That was express/priority shipping. I personally think that is too slow. FedEx took 3 days including weekend (Friday early morning US time to Monday 11am Indian time) which I find pretty incredible, even though it costs a lot more.

With Standard shipping, expect it to take around 7 days including weekend.

Exactly. Contrary to most people, which some might find weird, I actually like Touchwiz. It's one of the better custom UIs out there, and I like it for its awesome functionality enhancements. Right from the days of Galaxy S (where Touchwiz was the first to introduce toggles in the notification bar, which has since been copied in every major ROM including CM, and it's slick swipe-notif-bar-to-adjust-brightness feature to name a couple) all the way up to GS3 (features like auto-call when you hold the phone to your ear while messaging), they just seem incredibly handy.

About audio quality - I have a SoundMagic PL30 and an Xears - it's definitely not as good as my Galaxy S (with Voodoo tweaks). But it's still pretty good, should be better than S2.

I thought exactly the same but that assumption proved to be quite wrong with the Droid DNA. It seems to perform better than the N4 in several aspects (including battery life, performance tests) although it uses the same SoC but a 1080p screen.

Also, Tegra 4 and Exynos 5450 should blow S4 Pro out of the water. Still, S4 Pro is pretty kickass by itself.

He said S4 (Galaxy S4), not N4 ;)

Good luck mate, keep us updated.
[Nexus 4 General] exynoss:
Oh my bad :o not read that correctly.
[Nexus 4 General] yoshimitsu1234:
Just got mail from google that attempt to charge my card was declined due to insufficient funds. I had ordered via ICICI Bank debit card and $363 were deducted from my account. What should i do? I do not have money anymore. Should i contact bank? Or Google? What's Googles contact id?
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
This should help:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35988287#post35988287

You can call Wallet support at +1-855-492-5538.

Don't worry, it's a pretty commonly reported issue when used with Indian cards/banks.
[Nexus 4 General] vaibkulk:
Damn Google restock the phone i want it....
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
Can I please just remind users that you should not try to sell or buy phones in the forums so asking people if they want to sell to contact you is not allowed. See the rules:

I've deleted the few posts which had this posted/quoted in the last page so please don't do it again and anyone you see doing so please continue to report their posts.

Thanks

AvRS
[Nexus 4 General] speed_edge:
is Nexus4 back in stock?

Can some one please confirm if its back in stock.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Checked just now it's still out of stock. Wait for Google to finish up pending orders, they have not yet finished some 15/16 Dec orders and

also some Nov 28th ones are pending.
[Nexus 4 General] ImSherlocked:
Guys I have 4 items (cases and screen protectors) in my hopshopgo account. Actual weight for each package is hardly 100 grams. But hopshopgo is by default showing them as 0.5 kg. Now if I choose to ship them together, will I be charged for 2kgs???
[Nexus 4 General] karanits:
I found another irritating sound problem. There is a small cracking sound whenever you try to change a ringtone or notification sound midway. This also happens if you stop the tone in between by lowering the notification bar when u receive a sms for email.

Try this. First disable touch pad tone. Now try selecting Notification tones by previewing it quickly between various tones. You will hear the crack sound in between. Signs of imminent speaker death.... Don't know :sly:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Doesn't HSG allow repackaging? I know borderlinx does. They combine all your packages into one huge package to save on volumetric weight.

Check with their customer care.
[Nexus 4 General] ImSherlocked:
It's showing repack not available next to each item. In fact 3 out of 4 items weigh less than 100 grams!
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
No, they do not offer actual repackaging (combining shipments into one big package) services. What they call repackaging is actually modifying the packaging of an individual shipment if the difference between its actual and volumetric weights is more than 2kg.

Yes, it will be 2kg minimum with 4 packages. The minimum weight for each package is considered 0.5kg even if it weighs 10g. :p Not much you can do about it.

P.S. - How is the value of the phone $349? No taxes OR shipping charges?!
[Nexus 4 General] trueblueram:
Mate, u got a raw deal, m sure everybody's sympathies are with you. I agree with most of your arguments. But the one below is a blatant generalization. This bug is not there in every other phone. Unfortunately it's there in yours and some other phones. Please see the poll results from op. Now that your point is made, can we all move on.
[Nexus 4 General] sagarpatil86:
Google charged me twice for Nexus 4

I placed an order on 13th December using my ICICI Debit Card. The very same day Google charged my card twice

1. VIN/GOOGLE *MAR/XXXXXX - Amount: Rs 1.03

2. VIN/GOOGLE *Dev - Amount: Rs 20,491.65

Today I got a SMS from ICICI saying Google has again charged my card:

1. VIN/GOOGLE *Dev/ - Amount: Rs 20,878.14

Previously, My Play Store used to show the ordered date as 13th December and today it has been updated to 9th January.

Obviously Google ****ed it up. Whats the best way to solve this? Contact their Support through email or phone?
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Don't worry. This means that Google is going to ship your device soon. The first charge was just an authorization hold and will be refunded back.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35988287#post35988287

If you wait for a few weeks, your first charge will be refunded.

Edit: oops, I see Hrithan2020 already beat me to it :)
[Nexus 4 General] urbanlegend1804:
Contact ICICI Bank

Dont worry. I faced the same problem. the first debit ion 13th december is just an authorization charge by google, to check if u hav requiste funds. Some banks like icici hold back that particualr amount.. Just call up icici bank and register a complaint with them that u have been debited twice for the same transaction. they will reimburse the amount to you in a couple of days time. nothing to worry
[Nexus 4 General] sagarpatil86:
You guys are awesome. 3 replies in less than 5 mins.

Don't have time to chase ICICI guys. I guess I'll just wait for a week and see if the re-credit the amount.

Again, Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Raise an SR at ICICI or just Mail them..

They will contact you back in one day.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Out of one mess and into another. Finally got my Phone delivered to ComGateway, then my Skinomi screenguard. My Ringke case got delivered 2 days back, and ComGateway screwed it up. They say they've processed the package and it should be reflecting in my account, but I only see the Skinomi and the Nexus 4. They have no clue what's wrong.

FML.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Their support team is excellent. I'm sure they'll sort this out in no time, don't worry.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
Hope so. Just spoke to them via chat, they say their IT Dept will try to solve it by tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] Aka91:
any idea guys when it will be back in stock?

I have an old Nokia E5 showing its Age :(

And i really like the N4!

Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] AbhishekS:
I doubt that we will be covered on the pieces we get from eBay. Pretty sure LG India won't entertain US imported pieces.
[Nexus 4 General] :
okay... means we will be getting warranty.. but... as you see its imported from the USA ... so wont that be creating a problem? will lg people fix the imported handset here.... ? even if i have the pakka bill and TIN?
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
Not sure.. but AFAIK, LG provides services to their products anywhere in the world and that's been the general policy of all international companies.

Also they just need the proof that you purchased their product only and a valid TIN number and bill will suffice.. but to be on the safer side you can drop by for LG service centers. As long as the products are genuine and sealed it shouldn't be a problem. that's why I prefer to purchase from my local retailer rather ebay.in for a sealed piece and warranty.
[Nexus 4 General] ashish2199:
help

Can anyone tell me places in Delhi where Nexus 4 could be available in DELHI (in December)

Does anyone know any good shops that sell imported mobiles in Delhi

PLEASE HELP

one more advice to people running this thread why dont you start listing the various websites that are offering along with price and everytime someone finds a new deal you can add it to the list. It would be very helpful in deciding from where to buy.
[Nexus 4 General] iamdchosen1:
NO!

All those people who are buying from eBay won't get a warranty from LG India.. Since these companies don't entertain outside products that are imported from US..

My friend bought a Galaxy Nexus from eBay only but he wasn't provided with any sort of warranty by Samsung India..

So, for people buying from eBay, you alone are responsible for everything about the device!

Sent from my Xperia Neo V using SwiftKey
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
You sure about that?? Coz for example my HTC One X is imported from Taiwan by some importer and sold to me by Reliance Digital. HTC still covers me with warranty in India.
[Nexus 4 General] iamdchosen1:
I believe they don't provide warranty for Google products since they never official launch their devices here..

But as far as I know, LG won't provide any support!

There's a Indian reviewer of mobile phones on YouTube, even he bought the Nexus 3 from eBay and he himself says that warranty isn't provided!

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[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
aww.. that's bad then.. but when they officially announce we will get warranty right? then let's wait for them to launch officially.. atleast till this month end.. and lets hope they are not like samsung..
[Nexus 4 General] iamdchosen1:
May be we'll get a warranty then!

Since it will be launched in India too..

Let's hope for the best!

Sent from my Xperia Neo V using SwiftKey
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
But like the news said.. amit gujral.. nexus 4 in India by this month end.. it will be launched.. and lg knows that India is a potential market.. they are not stupid like Samsung.. and I really hate Samsung since they did that.. and lg will take advantage of this to boost its bad sales Here...

Fired from my HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10 and EPRJ Kernel..
[Nexus 4 General] X 0 M0RF:
What is the max that you guys are planning to spend for it..let's accept it, specs are high end..

I think 25k is fair.
[Nexus 4 General] Android Rocks:
Listen! man we live in India and here these buyers for high end phones are limited. There is no feature like google play store in India which can provide in low prices like in US. So, as per the current Indian market the starting price of Nexus phone will be 35k for sure. If they launch it for 25k who will buy their Optimus G phone with almost same specs?
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Did/can anyone speak to LG asking them about how the repair will work?

I mean, I know I won't get warranty if I get this from from elsewhere but they won't refuse to repair it since it's not from India, right?

I read somewhere that they might do that and now I'm scared.
[Nexus 4 General] shishirasm:
Yeah I'm afraid of that too... But u know, u can somehow convince them by giving them a little extra money & get the things done (Only if they Officially release it in India... Orelse parts won't be available)... U know the service centres are not LG company people... They Just take the franchise from LG to run Service Centre... If one service centre guy doen't agree, some other will... I think u should pay some extra money to him as they work on commission there... I had an incident when i took a mobile to service centre & they said - "sir, if u want bill, u have to pay 250rs extra, Orelse ok"... That means If u want bill, they have to show the bill book entry to company & will loose 250rs commission... There is big manipulation in service centres... U should choose service centres as last preference...
[Nexus 4 General] Android Rocks:
Their is no international warranty that comes with LG Nexus 4 from US. If you face any issue you have to send the phone to US to fix. So, it's better to buy from indian market when LG will officially release this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
Depends.. normal people will buy their optimus g that has apps like to record calls and take notes etc that come with the device whereas in this nexus version it won't have all that features. But one can download them off play store but people lazy to download (we got slow internet here) will go for optimus g.. the salesman will take care of that... its us the xda who consist of hardly 10% of the buyers will buy nexus over optimus.. optimus has 32gb storage unlike 16 or 8gb in nexus.. those could also be the key selling point in optimus...

Fired from my HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10 and EPRJ Kernel..
[Nexus 4 General] shishirasm:
This has some good clarification regards to buying from another country is concerned... Shipping & sales tax info etc...

http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=2451685
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
It is worth 25 and below maybe.. ;)

Fired from my HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10 and EPRJ Kernel..
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
If you go by the rules mentioned there... forget nexus 4 coming to India.. been through some if them and they mention only about US and those countries who have play store and that means in India we are not going to get any support even if we import it from US and we might get some support if lg launches it here also..

Fired from my HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10 and EPRJ Kernel..
[Nexus 4 General] shishirasm:
Yeah... lets hope LG launches here & we can create a new thread in xda & discuss about the service centres where they might service this in situations of trouble...
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
Same was the case with me last December.. during the release of galaxy nexus..it was released in the whole Asian subcontinent except India... I got pissed off with Samsung.. now I think it could be lg's turn if it goes along with Samsung.. hope Samsung sues lg for copying its release strategy in India... say next month and next month very month and finally at march say that its not going to come.. lol.. trolling consumers.. I'm frustrated at them... let them go to hell..
[Nexus 4 General] iamdchosen1:
No offense but you have a One X which is one hell of a phone, still the best phone out there!

Why would you wanna jump to Nexus 4?

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[Nexus 4 General] hirav:
Galaxy nexus is not popular in India

People don't know about it

From 100 people you meet I bet hardly one may know about Gnexus

And from all those hardly two or three may find a shop to get it

Also many people in India still don't consider eBay a reliable site to buy products

I do have a guy ready for purchasing my 2 month used Gnexus for 21k but I will sell him only after I get my nexus 4

---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:08 PM ----------

Galaxy nexus is not so popular to general public in India

People don't know about it

From 100 people you meet I bet hardly one would know about Gnexus

And from all those hardly two or three may find a shop to get it

Also many people in India still don't consider eBay a reliable site to buy products

I do have a guy ready for purchasing my 2 month used Gnexus for 21k but I will sell him only after I get my nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
21k for used gnexus..I say sell it before he changes his mind :) bcoz new one is available for less that or aroound 20K
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
well.. if you see the official Indian htc one x thread.. you will understand.. its' not the perfect device there.. I know no device is perfect.. but there are a series of problems like wifi keeps messing up always and HTC released this phone in a hurry without fixing any bugs and are retardedly slow when pushing updates.. SGS3 got JB and Im still lagging at ICS.. and it's been a long time since JB released.. and most users already rooted it and the community is providing fix for wifi and jb update.. still we miss some parts like radio (who uses it anyways i dont) and wifi direct (practically useless coz it's only for receiving files and cannot send unlike in SGS3 and other lot of devices that support both receiving and sending.)

now you see my frustration and there's a hell lot others out there who are stuck with HTC one x I know a great hardware and hell lot of potential.. the most powerful mobile GPU on board.. (if you follow kohlk's USB OTG kernel you will know what it's capable of) it can even beat SGS3 and any damn device out there.. tegra is really powerful.. but with a crappy software a especially bloatware.. it sucks also HTC One X has a limit of multitasking of only 4 apps.. max.. that's the limit set by HTC to keep the user experience (indirectly their bloatware) up and running smoothly.. also 1gb of ram is just not sufficient.. atleast 500 to 600 is filled by the OS.. so these are the reasons why I am switching to nexus.. atleast i'll get updates.. damn..
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
to add to his points, if you see.. the Indian thread got only 19k views after so many days.. whereas the US thread got more than 100k views.. all within a week.. so.. imagine the popularity of nexus in US than in India.. no wonder.. companies think a hundred times before they release it here.. coz there are few takers.. how many htc one x do you see?? very few.. that too after extensive advertising.. so there's no point of releasing high end phones here.. and taxes?? there's no point here.. that's why the smartphones released here are very few..
[Nexus 4 General] yoshimitsu1234:
Anyone has ordered nexus 4 with Indian debit card? Is it ok if i put my ICICI debit card with address of USA of my friend? or only credit cards are excepted?
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
flash AOKP on One X and it will beat nexus 4 any day :) even CM10 + you get full 4.7 screen with One x or galasy S3 rather than stupid on screen button which takes space ... again if u stil like soft screen keys then AOKP has that option too...

with stock rom update a problem always with any brand but we have this gr8 xda communty withy lots of custom roms and one x is still one of the favourite device of developers here so rom will come think and fast :)

personally I dont see benefit in upgrading from One x to nexus 4 now....
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
Yup.. that's why I am using CM10 with EternityProject's USB-OTG Kernel..

that dev (Kohlk) of EternityProject deserves a high place in this world of electronics.. he made what's impossible.. literally.. HTC one x doesn't support usb otg and he made is posible.. almost.. on top of that.. his kernel has advanced features that saves battery and makes my one x last three days without charge that's surprising for an android phone with such a high end spec and a low 1800 mah battery.. but yeah.. he made is possible.. thus proving that community is better than a damn company that's got some real hard cash.. people can work wonders just using free time for no returns.. what's up with companies who have full time dedicated workers with real cash ?? they ought to work harder than these good guy fellas..

sorry for going off topic.. but.. do we have anything else here??
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
I believe you can.. but you gotta do that using a proxy server.. those who ordered it will be able to give you a better idea here..
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
so after having CM10 on one x you still want to go for nexus s4 ... is there any other reason that just software update
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
my good friend ... i mean this respectfully... u wouldnt know the greatness of a nexus device unless u own it.. and honestly a lot of reasons u will only understand wen u own it... even i was skeptical.. but after owning one after using the s2 and s3..even downgrading to the galaxy nexus made it feel like an upgrade..
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
I understand what u mean and have played aroung with nexus and yes there is difference..but my point is..if someone already owns a current high end phone like One x or S3 on whic we can easily flash CM10 or AOKP then there is no point to upgrade now,,rather wait for next nexus...we already have better hardware that nexus and software is easily available here in xda
[Nexus 4 General] rodeo_calling:
check it out

http://www.junglee.com/Google-Nexus...IZDG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353590705&sr=8-1
[Nexus 4 General] saj2001ind:
its still grabmore which is unreliable
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
Told you.. software and hardware.. some stupid limitations.. also I am not able to use all the features that its competitors have over it.. but yeah.. this is a great device.. I love my one x.. I'm not changing it.. I'm giving it a friend.. that's all..
[Nexus 4 General] ferozfero:
mm yeah s3 and one x are great smartphones... but ill tell u a few things... if like ur gonna root and put in aokp or cm10...then il tel u the nexus is even better... this is how much of a developers phone a nexus is... the funny thing is the best or fastest rom in the nexus section(galaxy nexus) isnt even a cm10 or aokp rom... its a totally diiferent independant rom.... and the quality of kernels available is unmatched by any phone out there , this u can ask anybody... but ill tell u two reasons to stay with the one x or s3...Stay with the one X for the screen... its absolutely amazing.. even compared to the s3 nexus 4 and even the droid dna... stay with the s3 only and only if u like touchwiz and its features.. nothing else helps the s3..the exynos processor being one of the greatest set backs..its closed source..
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
The expected shipping date is Dec 24 till Jan next year!! By that time, prices should come down plus there is a slight chance that Indian version might be announced. [ warranty though at likely higher price ]

Yeah, upgrading might not make sense to many. But, please don't tell they have better h/w than Nexus 4 [ In terms of RAM, CPU.. Camera granted would be better. Point remains N4, is superior to these phones in quite a few aspects in terms of h/w] and I guess you are not familiar with the numerous issues developers are facing with exynos4 chipset, which severly limits potential of AOSP/CM9 roms.
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
Has anyone spoke to grabmore CC regarding delivery time. Will it take as mentioned on website
[Nexus 4 General] shishirasm:
The delivery time on website is mentioned as 24th dec - 1st jan... Thats so long considering the device may actually release during that period in India & buying from them would be a stupid idea...
[Nexus 4 General] ImSherlocked:
How much time does hopshopgo take to ship the package after making the payment?