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[LG Optimus G (International)] DonMarek:
I'll be able to test the kernel tomorrow, I just wanted to clarify something:

Shelnutt, this kernel should be compatible with the e970, right? as that is what I will be testing on.

sent from my LGOG
[LG Optimus G (International)] Shelnutt2:
Yes it is comptable with e970, I built it for att. Also if you already downloaded it, I posted an updated version, I just changes to include the entire boot.img instead of just the kernel, just safer for testing.
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
Thanks for the log.

Yes, same as the Nexus 4. All the FM commands work with no error. But RSSI signal strength is always -16.

I presume it's because the FM antenna pin is grounded.

You never know though, if there might be some "antenna/headset switch" that could be flipped. I once thought older Motorola's had such a switch, but found it was just needing some firmware loaded. And a Moto presumed to have no FM audio for 2+ years turned out to be found to be usable...

But I'll be considering this case closed, unless/until someone might find out otherwise. My guess is FM is much less than 1% probable now.
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
Never say never, LOL. :)

Turns out I forgot that the WCN3660 DOES have an antenna switch. The default is "External / Headset" which works fine on HTC devices. But devices like Xperia T use "Internal", which despite it's name can still be external and connected to the wired headset.

And I think any device using this pin for antenna can transmit too.

Jan 10 free version of Spirit FM app is here: http://d-h.st/FaY

It should set antenna to external for HTC devices and internal for all others. But there's a Debug-> Antenna setting to be sure of the setting.

Also, Audio-> Method setting should be automatic, should we get lucky with signal, but can still be set manually to "HTC OneS/X LTE ALSA" which is most likely to work.

As before, a kernel with the radio-iris-transport.ko module is required to test.
[LG Optimus G (International)] DonMarek:
Hey Shelnutt, sorry again, but I'm trying to flash the test kernel to test out mike's newest discovery, but I keep getting a status 7 in cwm. I've downloaded it several times, thinking it might be a bad download, but no luck. Any ideas?

sent from my LGOG
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
I don't want to copy everything from the Nexus 4 thread, but anyone interested can read it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1963623&page=18

Briefly, the Optimus G LG-E973 schematics seem to indicate that if there IS an FM antenna connection, it would be to the normal "headset" or "external" antenna pin, which was the default that has already been tested and found unusable.

The Nexus 4 / LG-E960 schematics OTOH, seem to be clearer that FM is not supported.

LG-E973 schematics seem to indicate FM was considered an option, but that LG decided not to enable that option. But some future variant might, who knows.
[LG Optimus G (International)] MitoTakatori:
My Stock E975 Philippines ROM has the FM Radio App, it does work, scan stations, etc. Problem is it has no SOUND!! How can I fix this?
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
Send it in for repair ?

Or try my app.
[LG Optimus G (International)] MitoTakatori:
Nice point. But the phone has no problems. I think it's software related. Where is your apps link? Thanks!
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
If it's SW related, my app may show the same problem.

See the link in my "signature", just below this text. Latest free version: http://d-h.st/vCj
[LG Optimus G (International)] MitoTakatori:
Installed the free version. Gonna try it sometime later. Thanks again!
[LG Optimus G (International)] mihirj.mj:
Indian OG version E975 has company given FM radio with RDS!

specs are same except for int memory, camera res, sd slot.

i dont have it though :(
[LG Optimus G (International)] Andromann:
Indian e975 does have an native fm app!

As mihirj.mj said, Indian version of e975 does have built in support for fm and the drivers are provided natively in the kernel itself. I managed to get the official stock ROM of the Indian e975 and was wondering if someone with sufficient skills could take a look into the kernel file and compare it with our stock to see what our's is missing ie., to see if it's missing out just the radio-iris driver and radio-iris-transport module as mikereidis stated earlier in this thread (With all due respect Mike, I am not against your opinion as you are a gazillion times a better programmer!!!)

If anyone's interested, I could post the files here.
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
Yes, since I posted that in January it has become clear that some variants of Optimus G, released some time after initial launch, have FM.

And some variants still don't have FM, due to antenna pins being grounded.
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
This is pretty much always the problem on devices using WCN3660 FM/combo chip but with no official FM.

And I go through the same routine of asking some kernel dev to enable the driver, everytime some reasonably popular device comes out and we try to determine if the FM is usable.

Most recently, I/we went through this for the new 2013 Nexus 7.
[LG Optimus G (International)] Andromann:
Yeah I get it. I just felt that for a wonderful phone like this, a petty feature like missing support for fm shouldn't be a downside.

Just a few questions though

Was the kernel Shelnutt2 posted built from at&t stock?

As the e9xx variants are all of same same hardware configs and vary only in camera and sd card slot availability, can I use the e975 kernel on my 970?

Thanks
[LG Optimus G (International)] iNitrox:
Holy sh*t

Optimus G E970 variant doesn't have FM Radio

Optimus G E975 variant doesn't have MicroSD slot

What the hell is wrong with you LG?
[LG Optimus G (International)] sudeep_hm:
any updates on FM for E970???

Hi, recently I purchased E970 (unlocked) while going through this thread, I am still curious to know whether any one got the success in activating FM for this mobile???
[LG Optimus G (International)] mihirj.mj:
Has anybody tried??? :)
[LG Optimus G (International)] mihirj.mj:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2584981

Maybe this'll help

... this guy modifies modem used in e970 ...

Senior/skilled members pls look in the yhread n with the guy
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
Modem radio and FM radio are completely unrelated.
[LG Optimus G (International)] milindchitale:
Hi,

Nice to see some valiant fighters, who refuse to die to Hardware related missing features.

Recently the CM11 official update for the e975 included the official FM support. Maybe you or someone with the knowledge and time can poke around that rom and see what parts can be brought into the e970 for the FM radio to cough into life.??

Best luck on your efforts guys, this is what makes XDA the best place for real developers and enthusiasts !!

milind
[LG Optimus G (International)] mikereidis:
The post of mine you quoted is old.

ATT E970 is not capable of FM, same as all but a very tiny few of the International models.

And... Yeah, I'd be happy if this thread was closed now. AFAIC, the thread question is answered. There is no usable FM on ATT E970.
[LG Optimus G (International)] andre.luzimg:
fm

it does not have internal fm radio only online apps will do the job
[LG Optimus G (International)] xstt:
It isn't working KK 4.4.2 :(

Model: f180k
[LG Optimus G (International)] dark_prince:
Radio does switch on, scan stations, tune. There is no sound output.

Cyanogenmod 11 nightlies.

P.S: Sorry to bump this thread but I'd love to know how to make it work and this thread is already existing before posting my same question.

I am on F180.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
Hi all,

Today Samsung Updates posted a new firmware for i9305 (unlocked), i can't test it right now...anyone flashed it can share opinion?

Link for new MA3:

http://hotfile.com/dl/189375678/45dc876/Samsung-Updates.com-GT-I9305-NEE-I9305XXBMA3-1357552475.zip.html

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] btemtd:
Nice nice what region

Whats samsung updats? Isnt it samfirmware
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
LUX, LJ4 out too for SFR region.

Hope i could try it tomorrow:thumbup:

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Stony-D:
Cross my fingers and hope there is the MultiWindow feature avaible :D

---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------

Btw

There is a Firmware For Note 2 and it ends with xxalj3 too

Maybe it is easier to port stuff and Roms from the note 2 as from the normal s3?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
I wonder if the Note2's xxalj3 has multi windows feature inside....if so i think we have an awsome update:D

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Stony-D:
Omg it makes me crazy

I will update tomorrow if i come home from work

Cheers buddies
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
It seems that note2's xxalj3 was the first OTA update with multi windows feateur:eek: for note 2.

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
I am grabbing it now but it is very slow!!!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
Let us know when you will flash if it has multi windows feature or any other major update:)

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Will do, still at least an hour to go, host site is slow as I have 120mb fibre optic!

Does anyone know if I flash this will I still be able to go back to my current rom. Anyone think that root may not work on this? Do we have to wait for a speciifc root or can I just use the same root process as before?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] txr33:
If you have mobile odin, you can flash this and tick the ever root option and you will not lose root, but you can use the same root process as before. I have deodexed, rooted and flashed this, now playing around. It does not seem to have multi window but there does seem to be some minor improvements so far, but still playing around with it.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Thanks for the info. My download finished but then realised I had grabbed ALJ3 and not ALJ4 lol! so just waiting for it to download again.

Did you use ALJ3 or ALJ4? Can you post the de-odexed version somewhere? as downloading from Hotfile is a nightmare!

Shame about multi window though!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] txr33:
I got lj3. I didn't see lj4. I will have to have a look again later but I can't access the sam mobile site at the moment just says bad gateway. I can't upload anything at the moment but will try upload the stock deodexed tonight if get a chance, may need to get lj4 instead though if that's up
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Yeah I have the same with sammobile so I grabbed them from http://samsung-updates.com/latest-firmware/

Will not have time to try until later tomorrow now but if you can grab LJ4 may be worth giving it a go! :)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] MADMAXAKTAU:
guys could you please check if in this firmware availible Russian language:confused:
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] psmedley:
So we can expect an updated ripper rom shortly??? :)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] stian230:
I still got "502 Bad Gateway" it's kinda irritating.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Did you read my post 2 above yours? You can grab them from there! :)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] oswade:
Finally we have a new rom from October :D!!! I was beginning to think i9305 would forever lag behind i9300.

Just one question (forgive me as I have never flashed an i9305 rom before, only i9000).

Often with the s1 we needed to repartition when flashing, which wiped data. If I flash over my i9305T stock rom, will all my data/settings be preserved as is the case with a Kies update? I also don't know if the fact that my device is i9305T makes any difference... I have read that others have successfully flashed i9305 roms but I don't know if their data was preserved.

Thx to anyone who can help me! :) No rush as I'm downloading the rom ever so slowly.. .xD
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] ewok666:
ALJ4 is branded. Anyone know whether ALJ3 is branded as well?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] txr33:
Lj4 has a lot of bloatware in the csc where as lj3 has none
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Stony-D:
Has someone Found the multiwindow Feature!?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Do not believe it is in either of the above 2 mentioned releases!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] m@f:
Me either..

Don't think we'll see multi window in any Samsung official 4.1.1 firmware. - for the 9300 and 9305!!!!

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
There are already multi window in 4.1.1 firmware for both note 2 and s3 alpha so why can't it ne possible?:)

Anyway it seems there isn't any multi window feature in those relaeaes:(

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] maduuto:
Whats the difference between these and I9305XXALI5 ?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] oswade:
Successful flash on my i9305T :laugh:

BTW: No bloatware other than "samsung go".
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] L335K1:
people having issues DLing from sammmobile;

http://hotfile.com/dl/178505236/435...9305_SFR_1_20121022114109_oea0h9uzej.zip.html
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Stony-D:
whats the csc in XXALJ4?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Filipiak:
HI There,

I have recently moved from a HTC incredible s to the SGS3 4G, but im a little confused about which roms I can and cant flash.

Im currently on Telstra and I have rooted my phone and installed custom recovery. All I want to do is be able to remove the bloat ware or flash a stock unbranded ROM and if possible get a way to be able to change the docked icons on the bottom.

If anyone can recommend which of these roms if any would be suited for me.

Cheers
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] oswade:
I recommend LJ3. You will finally be able to change the dock icons (that was frustrating me too lol) and it should remove all the telstra bloatware (Fairly sure).

All your data will be preserved and it should be a smooth transition. You will need to re-root though (unless you use mobile odin pro).
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Filipiak:
Fantastic thanks for your help. Where is the best place to download these roms from ie for safety so you dont get a bogus rom.

I have already rooted and installed the custom recovery. Is it best to flash via recovery or via odin? With the HTC everything was done via the recovery.

I really hope they make a thread for the SGS3 4g to make it easier for us new to samsungs.

Cheers

Pat
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] oswade:
NP. I don't think there is a recovery package for this rom yet. It is possible to flash new roms via recovery but you have to wait for someone to package it into a CWM zip (may take a long time or not happen at all). Generally it is easier to just use odin (I used odin 3.07 so that should be fine - do a search for it on xda).

If you download a zip file, unzip it cause you want the tar or tar.md5 file that is inside. Go into download mode by holding home+power+volumedown whilst powering on the phone. Once odin detects your phone (if it doesn't, install samsung drivers), load the tar.md5 package into the "PDA' box in odin. Do not tick repartition or anything, the default settings should be safe. Then click "Start" and wait for the rom to flash (might take a few min), and the phone will automatically reboot when finished.

sammobile and samsung-updates are both reliable. I used samsung-updates cause you don't have to register (i forgot my sammobile login).

http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9305

Always be careful though - make sure you've downloaded an i9305 rom not an i9300 rom or you might brick, and never tick "repartition".
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Filipiak:
Thanks for the help, just to make sure this is the only LJ3 i could find. Still OK to use with Australian phones even tho its Luxenburg region?

GT-I9305	LUX	I9305XXALJ3	4.1.1	17.10.2012	15.10.2012	281618	Unlock

As for custom recovery there is one because I have it on my phone already.....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32235061&postcount=1

Installed it the other day and it works fine.I did have problems mounting my SD card, but the internal memory mounted fine.

Cheers

Pat
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] oswade:
Worked fine for me. I also have telstra i9305T.

Luxemburg region is generally unbranded. You will lose your telstra branding (but that is a good thing right? lol. and you can always get it back by flashing the telstra rom).

To clarify abt custom recovery:

Just saying that your custom recovery will be overwritten when you flash the rom. You can get it back (or just root if you prefer) with odin and CF Root (see cf root thread).

Also you can't flash odin tars through recovery - only odin (or unofficial alternatives such as mobile odin/heidmall).
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Filipiak:
Thanks for that.

I went ahead and flashed it anyway as I had already made a back up of my stock rom. So what could go wrong. Works great, im happy to get rid of all the Telstra crap and be able to change the docked icons. The only issue I have had is the GPS drops in and out. Never did that with the orginal rom. Any ideas about this.

I did loose root and my custom recovery but I just re flashed them and everything was back to normal. So much easier than HTC's. At least Samsung let you change stuff on your phone without having to modifiy all your hboots etc...
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
I9305XXALJ7 is out there now! lol!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
Downloading now.

Will try it out. Surprised Sammobile don't have lj4.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Yeah not sure but I have heard stories that they tend to sit on things for quite a while (control thing) but not sure how true that is.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] btemtd:
Al3 al4 al7 all have same changelog number I wouldn't bother if they change the changelog number this is when you know they have changed something. Otherwise it's exactly the same and a waste of time :)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
Flashed it.

It is working fine so far, and the data is working as fine as the wifi.

By the way, does anyone know what one can do to remove the carrier banner that you get on lj4/4/7?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
+1

Maybe Just the modem could be different :thumbup:

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] btemtd:
Yeah maybe but this is easily changed by itself. So far I tried 3 modems and I could not see any difference
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] ewok666:
Seems to be just another branded version...
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Jarmezrocks:
LOL!!!:D
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
btemtd,

would you kindly do a stock presentation of this lj7 rom without that carrier booting image?

I am not techy, otherwise I would have done it already.

Cheers mate.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
New base is out, I9305XXALK3 (4.1.1) with build date 11/16/2012 but same changelog as previous version:

http://hotfile.com/dl/179632035/30c...9305_BOG_1_20121109143558_vd0mabz9pz.zip.html

:good:
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Stony-D:
Its a branded Firmware?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
Yes, Three Denmark.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] AndyCr15:
If it's 4.1.1 it's unlikely to be the multi window that is apparently leaking for I9300 though, right?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] btemtd:
Same change log ????? Oh well don't get exited then means there is nothing new

Only thing I may do if I am bothered is make a stock deodexed zip aligned busy box rooted version
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] txr33:
Yeah don't think there will be anything new. No multi window files inside and as blemtd said same changelog number. LJ7 is running pretty well though at the moment
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
I think multi window FW is under testing but we should know some Samsung 's insider to get the leaked.

Anyway oficial release should came for i9305 first:)

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] chippyuk:
Official perhaps but I have it on my 9300 already which was leaked yesterday!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
Please do mate. Gives us more options.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
Flashed it, then flashed the bootup and shut down zip files somewhere here under the i9305 forum.

Deleted all the network provider bloat, and runs fine.

Thanks OP.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
Any difference with LJ7?

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
No noticeable difference apart from the French carrier software and boot animations.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] hashcheck:
The multi-window beta firmware has been leaked for the 9300 s3. I hope they leak a early build for ours soon
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] YOSEFE:
That will really be good. Let us hope so.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] R4id3n84:
Just one question

Will this rom work in United Kingdom?

:fingers-crossed:

Also never posted this Post

Whats going on ?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] lyriquidperfection:
Check out my pre rooted Rom thread I made an XXALK3 ROM for EE UK.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] R4id3n84:
Link to your Rom please ? Also is changing kernals easy and build.props i'm liking Pandorium Rom for the Oc Ability i'm running at 1.6ghz max n 400mhz min n its speedy

WTF i never posted this Post ?

Has my accound been hacked ?

-----------EDIT---------------

Just realised you changed the topic title pmpl

Wet chin moment lol
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] Alexianon:
join. I also need to know. please check
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
New Fw is out:

I9305XXBLL3

Finally official 4.1.2:D

http://hotfile.com/dl/186131871/881...-GT-I9305-TCL-I9305XXBLL3-1355288409.zip.html

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] andreasb29:
Does anybody know when this Version comes for T-Mobile Germany?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] CQ7:
Nobody knows but you can always flash the new firmware and then change the modem with odin:thumbup:

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[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Android Deve] tabsterleir:
*** ATTENTION FRIENDS! ***

The I9305DBTBLL3 4.1.2 German release has multi-window support on our wonderful devices. To activate multi-window mode you simply hold the Back button until the side menu appears. I won't post the link (I suspect it violates SamMobile's terms if I do) but you will find it on SamMobile under the Top 10 Latest firmware for our device. Enjoy :D

P.S: I believe the firmware is also unbranded, it appears to have no pre-loaded carrier junk.