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[Nexus 4 General] ronniel88:
Order placed 8.36am Tuesday

Nexus 4 16GB *no bumper*

Received shipping confirmation in last couple of minutes! Finally :D

Good luck to those still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
As has been mentioned many times, TNT have not picked up the phone yet. They're still preparing them. And TNT reuse old shipping numbers.

I think they'll go out at 00:30 or 01:30. I'm not sure which. Hopefully 01:30.
[Nexus 4 General] CodeMonkey:
That's my thinking now too... just hope I don't get their only network locked one. The way things have been going this week...
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
How's that?

O2 cost: 399

Play store: 279 + 10 postage = 289

difference 110 quid.

Don't do it man! Wait this one out. You'll be paying almost 1/2 the amount of a 8gb nexus 4 more for the same thing. Or a kindle fire more...or....well £110 quid more.
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
Spoke to Cust Srvs

Hi

I spoke to customer services - got a guy from the USA who actually seemed to understand what was going on.

This is what came out.

a) The back order emails are definite - no devices left

b) They knew they were short inventory - but the back order emails go out on "estimated date" if nothing has been scanned in warehouse and no items left. In other words they can go down to 0 free stock but not send the email until their estimated shipping date has arrived - i.e they "hope" they get more to fulfil - but they didn't hence email triggered.

c) Back orders are to be fulfilled from the same batch that will go on to the play store - i.e the next delivery is in 3 weeks the play store orders and back orders will be filled from the same batch - no special allocation of devices for committed orders.

d) they "should" be able to prioritise filling back orders - as they "came first"

e) The pending charge will stay unless you cancel

My comments and guess work about each point is below

a) The guy was very definite on that - i pushed him on it very politely.

b) They were trying to give themselves time to be able to get more inventory - they missed the deadline

c) He admitted back orders and future orders are "in the same boat" his words.

d) He was really non comittal on prioritising back ordered items - especially when I pointed out the lack of chronological processing we have already seen. Can we really bank on being first in the queue when the play store floodgates open - the warehouse pickers are not processing in chronological order are they.

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Don't, just don't. Patience is a virtue. If you happen to get a lemon and they sell out in O2, you'll be back to square one.

On other news... Lumia 920 is 400 quid sim free in EE shops with charging mat and some fairly expensive headphones. Check hotukdeals
[Nexus 4 General] 1234568:
I'm doing the same tomorrow for 2 reasons. First of all, my phone is really failing and I don't think it will last another month - which is realistically what it will take till I have a nexus in my hand through the Play store. Secondly, I had budgeted about £450 for a new phone originally as that seems to be about the going rate for top-line handsets.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Still, why overpay? Please do a reasonable thing people, don't give carriers more of our hard earned money, they rip us off as it is.
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
Past 12 and still Nada... :(
[Nexus 4 General] 1234568:
The lock/unlock button on my current phone is getting stiffer by the day and at times is unresponsiveness. As I say, it likely wont last another month. I look at it this way... I am paying for the privilege to not have to fall back on my Nokia 6310.
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Guess they either dont have a working phone or they are impatient?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I rather would, unless you absolutely need smartphone for whatever features. I've walked around with my Nokia 5210 when my Sensation was in repair, and you know what? Didn't really miss it, apart from navigation now and again.
[Nexus 4 General] andyzarins:
Carphone warehouse was selling the nexus for £389 pay as you go. Checked in 2 of their stores today and they have stock (both had 3 in stock) but they are now only selling on contract. Tried my local O2 store and they had 2 in stock. Haggled a little with them and manage to get the nexus for £360 for a 16gb version. I have still been ripped off but I think it will be another month before there is any more stock and it could be the same shambles again. Almost worth the extra cash to not buy from the playstore.

Hope this helps you. I got the discount by taking out a simplicity contract which is monthly but I am calling up to cancel tomorrow within the 7 day cooling off period. I won't get charged and it was a monthly contract only in any case for £13.50... Plus the phones are unlock so I have popped my t-mobile sim in and it works perfectly.
[Nexus 4 General] mezzyg:
Thanks I might try that tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] rodmace:
I got the exact problem. will give TNT a ring first thing tomorrow morning.
[Nexus 4 General] Barguast:
Well, I'm impressed Google are still aiming to delivery by yesterday, but I think I might give up on my shipping email for tonight. And my backorder email. We'll see what tomorrow brings...
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
You will both get it tomorrow. Try changing to reference number then checking.
[Nexus 4 General] MilosKralj:
I've got my N4 today at about 3PM, ordered on 13th at about 8.20AM.

I am very sattisfied with a phone, theres 0 lag basically eats everything i throw at it. No yellow patches as reported in other thread. There is a slight rattle, barely audible in my case, and it seems to be camera. No overheating issues. I powered it on shortly after i got it and had 78% battery at that point, still on 25% after quite heavy usage i would say considering all the syncing and setting up that needed to be done. Call quality is superb and as reported vibration and ringing volume are fantastic.

The only reason why m i slightly dissapointed is due to music playback volume. Its quite a bit lower than Galaxy Nexus i used to have. Maybe there is bit more quality to it but its slightly quieter. Anyhow ill be getting denon earbuds delivered tomorow so ill check then since i was using crappy samsung ones from SGS2.
[Nexus 4 General] mouyias:
I have called them already! There seems to be a delay in the updating of their site. Until they scan the item the tracking site will show nonsense or just nothing. TNT rep told me to wait until 3 or 7 in the morning when it will be updated. It's also likely that we won't receive anything until Monday because apparently they don't do Saturdays or Sundays.
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
I'm feeling quite depressed now and lacking motivation to do anything... I feel stupid for being hopeful that I'd get it soon... I really need something better to do with my time.
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
USA vs UK consideration

Should us Brits (maybe even Europeans) be concerned about the BIG USA shopping day (more like a week now) that is Black Friday

Will google make sure they try get some extra stock to USA customers to capitalise on their silly season at the expense of European stock.

I am thinking Google will want to shift as many as they can in the USA since their Xmas peak is more clearly defined than it is in Europe and UK.

What does anyone else think?

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] CodeMonkey:
Useful info - thanks
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I'll be trading in a load of tech with it (not just my phone) and I won't do that until AFTER I've received and tested my phone. I can always take it back, and if I can't I'll eBay it. After trading stuff in I'm only paying £13 more than Google Play, including shipping from Play. I'm fine with that.

Patience is a virtue. A virtue I am unable to maintain with an HTC Desire with 2.2 Froyo on. :p

Nice tip. If the contract is separate from the phone the cooling off period should work well. I'll try my best, but I'm not great at haggling.

Once I've bought the Nexus from O2, I'm going to the Three store (which is in the same shopping center) and getting my SIM trimmed down. Gonna boot that baby up as soon as I can. Here's hoping they actually have some in stock. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] CodeMonkey:
Considering the store I was in today didn't even have the display model labelled I suspect you'll be OK for stock..
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
Yup same nothing at all. Still pending.
[Nexus 4 General] mouyias:
No news= good news!
[Nexus 4 General] RichySamui:
I like your style rude boy! ;)

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No, it wasn't against the PlayStore purchase, it was comparing it to the O2 on contract over 24 month total cost. If you weren't lucky enough to bag one first time around from the PlayStore looks like you going to have to wait 3 weeks or so - if you're lucky. Was comparing the - how to get the Nexus 4 right now - options.
[Nexus 4 General] CharmingCharlie:
I have to confess I am considering getting one from O2 as well at £399. I was always prepared to pay up to £400 for my next phone (been using an SGS for yoinks). There are only 3 things stopping me. Firstly I don't even know if O2 stores in Sheffield have them (you know us being poor Sheffielders with no jobs etc etc). Secondly the only one they have on their website is the 8gb version and I am not paying £400 for that version. Finally I want my phone unlocked so I can choose my carrier, I am not 100 percent sure that buying from O2 (the pay as you go version) is the unlocked version.

I keep trying to get in touch with them via phone but they seem to be allergic to answering their phone :p . It seems the only way I will get this phone before 2013 is if I get it from O2 or Carphone Warehouse. I certainly expect the next batch of phones on the play store to be sold out within minutes and for it to be next to impossible to get till well into 2013.
[Nexus 4 General] Fushichou:
Not quite sure how this works! Ordered 16GB N4 at 08:37:03, got confirmation email at 09:10 that day, shipped email at 21:03 today, just looked up the reference number and it's out for delivery in my city at gone 1:00am, even though it says it was picked up on the 15th? It's also definitely tracking my package, as it has the right date and city.

Edit: Nevermind - it's already changed to status "please call". Figured it was a bit too good to be true!
[Nexus 4 General] pav4n:
I felt the same until I decided to flash this the other day:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1973427

It runs quiet nicely and helps you feel that little bit closer to a nexus ;)
[Nexus 4 General] jholt1:
TNT reuse tracking numbers. The shipping email does say - "Note that it may take 24 hours for your tracking number to return any information."

I ordered mine at 8:35:39 AM UTC, Tuesday and got the shipping email at 9:03 PM, today (WOOP :mad:).

When I ordered the N7, I got the package the next day, so hopefully it will be the same. If you check the tracking number in the morning it should have changed.
[Nexus 4 General] oawalker:
I gave up on the play store already and ordered online from o2 it's coming tomorrow morning. you can still order it tomorrow/today for Saturday delivery but i think you need to pay extra for it. they had the 8gb version at first but now they have the 16gb verson now and i am sure you can unlock cheap online or maybe through xda soon
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
I'm sure it'll have a locked bootloader though. O2 suck. My Xperia S came from them and I can't unlock mine.
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
I knew it, gave Google a call again, this time asked whether the bumper are in stock, the reply was no and apparently they were in stock for a very short period on Tuesday.

It seems with each call the situation is getting worse. In one of my earlier post the agent said its not looking rosy for me, they need to clear the backlog.Now, it is abundantly clear my order is not included in the clearing of this backlog :eek:

These agents have got no clue when LG produces the next batch of this doomed bumper...The only reply was we should have updates over the next few days on the bumper situation.

Also, I can't amend things in my order, the only thing I could do is refuse delivery for my bumper when it arrives, what good is that going to do?

Probably with our luck we might fulfill the three weeks referenced in the back-order email.
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
Yeah, if we are lucky! Called Google, they have no clue, not worth calling again for a few days, until we get some news.
[Nexus 4 General] CharmingCharlie:
Thanks for the heads up, I had another look at their website and they are indeed selling the 16gb one now for £399 (yesterday it was stated as only having 8gbs). It works out about £110 more than Google but then I don't have to go through all the crap that I did on Tuesday trying to get one in 3 weeks time. Hell it is almost worth paying an extra 100 quid to avoid the damn play store ordering mess altogether.

I think my game plan will be phoning a few O2 shops in Sheffield and see if they have any in stock. If not I may go for the one on their website. Still not too keen on having a phone locked to O2 though :( . It isn't a major hassle since I am with Giffgaff and I believe you can use their sims in O2 locked phones. However I like the freedom of being able to choose what ever carrier I want.

Oh just read this :-

I can't link to the article cos I am a noob apparently but the fact the O2 version is completely unlocked just made this a lot more interesting to me.
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
well this might be my way of getting N4 for less than £350 on o2 if I haggle the right way :D, Phone with very similar specs, + charging mat (£50) those headphones (£20-£40). Might actually pull this off :D

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actually every phone from o2 I had in past was unlocked.... and look at my post above
[Nexus 4 General] adamski123:
I'm considering trying to buy it from o2 aswell, although when are the cpw getting the nexus in? :L and what storage? I heard they r selling them for 349

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sent from either my one x or nexus 7. If anybody is selling or trading a note 2 then pm me :D
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
how did you haggle them down to 360
[Nexus 4 General] vizzy:
I went into CPW yesterday in Lincoln and they didn't have any sim-free. She also brought the phone out and said 'is this the n4'? When it clearly displays the name all over the box. :banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] zibby64:
Response from google:

which is clearly wrong as I ordered at 8:19!
[Nexus 4 General] Tibbz96:
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's random. My order from 8:52AM was shipped last night..
[Nexus 4 General] Hereisphilly:
Haha, i know exactly what u mean! I was in there on tues, and no one had any idea what it was.

Went into o2 S****horpe yesterday, and they actually had one out on display... But it was at the back surrounded by dumbphones and not labelled at all!

So no danger of it selling out, but I couldnt pull the trigger on one, that effectively £110 price difference is a bitter pill to swallow!
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
No. It's a Nexus. It'll have no sim lock and the bootloader will be unlockable with "fastboot oem unlock"
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
Well its Friday & guess what!??!

Still pending....
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I think a lot of us will be sticking with our current providers, unless they're complete and utter poop (T-Mobile, O2).

I can't wait for the orders to be announced. I'm waiting for that all-important e-mail. I won't be sleeping until I've managed to place an order online, either. So excited. I'm gonna phone Google in a couple of hours and see if they have any new information on when it's going to be launched (00:00 PST or GMT for us?)

Haha, noooo totally not getting the phone JUST for a free TV. You could buy the phone and the TV and still save money on that ridiculously priced contract! Haha!!
[Nexus 4 General] @home:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEQmagZe08
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Don't forget to add the cost of going up to the o2 as well, if your already on o2 you get a discount with o2 priority, it'll still be cheaper than the 2 year asking price! Could probably take a girl to London, wine and dine and stay in a hotel and have some change left over :D
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
"It's a really impressive device but it's hard to get excited about it."

I reckon I could find a couple hundred people to dispute that claim!
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I'm with him. It's great, but nothing really that exciting. Mind you, it is the first Nexus that is ahead of or on par with its competition with SoC.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Second Nexus... the Nexus One was too.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Okay yeah, the device itself doesn't have any amazing features that we haven't already seen, I'll give you that. The reason I'm so excited is because it's so well-priced and such a high-end phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
I think we will all easily get a N4 ordered via Play Store and we will all be talking about having received it on Wednesday. Everyone I speak to have no idea what it is. All I hear is "is it a Samsung/HTC?" I spent 2 hours trying to explain to various family members yesterday why they should consider getting the N4, it made me realise how much the marketing really affects people, they just wouldn't entertain the N4 at all, the spec didn't matter to them, the brand and looks of the phone did and the fact some they knew had one.

I think the only "official" SIM Free place to get the N4, especially within the first month or whatever will be google play, and they will be agreements that 02/CPW can only sell on contract. I think if CPW do eventually sell it SIM Free it will be more expensive than the Play store.

I'll still be up and midnight to order one, hell, I haven't been sleeping right for a week as I'm constantly thinking about this thing. It needs to be all done and dusted now, I'm getting sick of my Mrs taking the p#ss out of me, saying what I am doing is tantamount to someone camping outside an Apple store.:silly:
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Oh yeah, I'm not having any doubts about the stock levels from Google. They've probably been looking into the online buzz of this thing, no doubt the buzz from XDA too, and they've stocked accordingly. They will have over-compensated anyway, so it's all good. Yeah, I've had to tell my friends about this phone. There's one other friend of mine who knew about the phone before I spoke to him about it, but he's very much involved in the tech world due to his job.

Yeah, I'm starting to think that's what Google have done so that they get their stock out of the way first and so that they get the money directly from consumers. Not only will they make more money, but they'll get an idea of demand from each Play-enabled country and that information will come in handy for them in the future.

Oh, me too. I don't plan to sleep until it's ordered! Yeah, a couple of my friends have started mocking me, too. Several have called me lame, but I call it passion. :P In saying that, some of my friends (the closer ones) are really interested in this phone and they quite like hearing about the tech and the rumours, etc. I think they're just humouring me, though. :P
[Nexus 4 General] losimagic:
Anyone remember how long the first days Nexus 7 stock lasted on the Play store?
[Nexus 4 General] Makaijin:
There wasn't any open day stock. Google Play opened up pre-orders a month before release. And if I remember right, pre-orders were closed about a week before ebuyer "accidently" started shipping out orders.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I just called Google. I got told that the Google Support workers don't get information about release times for any devices (which I don't believe). The lady I spoke to said "just go on the Google Play site and sign up to the notification system by clicking 'Notify Me' and you'll get an email as soon as purchases go live for that specific device."

Everyone should know this already, but I thought I'd forward this information regardless.
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
It would be hilarious if nobody showed up
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Literally LOL'd so hard then. Hahaha!
[Nexus 4 General] kaiowas82:
I've downloaded an extension. For chrome, page monitor, which is there updating the play store nexus page every 10, when there will be a change it's gonna play a sound.....useless to say its already working from an hour an my speaker volume is at Max :D
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I may have just done the same for Firefox. I've also got my phone auto-syncing my e-mails so I should know as soon as I can buy the phone. Woooo! So excited!
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Great idea! lol done the same
[Nexus 4 General] pichu23:
& may i know how did you do that ? :p

share ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
It's past midnight in Australia and the N4 still isn't for sale there. Looks like it'll be a worldwide launch at either midnight or 9am California time
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
My money is on a 5pm tomorrow evening. So it coincides with the Yanks.
[Nexus 4 General] will444:
So are O2 selling them carrier unlocked? Because I'm on Vodafone:(
[Nexus 4 General] jelli:
Pretty sure I saw someone mention they picked it up from O2 and it was unlocked, they put a T-Mobile sim in and it was working.
[Nexus 4 General] will444:
Yeah I read that, I'm going to go and ask in my O2 store today, hopefully they are!
[Nexus 4 General] Barguast:
Finally got my shipping confirmation last night at about 1am.

It was an only-N4 order. I still have a pending order for a N10 + N4 bumper - a side effect of the error-riddled ordering process. For some reason I had a feeling one item would hold up the phone so I left it as two orders! :)

Good luck to everyone still waiting, though I hope you don't stoop to getting it from one of the scammers on eBay. Bear in mind that many of them would have been in the same boat as us - awaiting their delivery - and may also have had theirs back ordered. On top of their huge profit margin, it just won't be worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] zibby64:
Has anyone either got the bumper case or seen someone say they've recieved it? I have a feeling thats holding my order up :(
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
Am I the only one who ordered just a 16gb, no bumper and has been back ordered?

I also left the link to Google checked.
[Nexus 4 General] Barguast:
Mine was a 16GB, no bumper, linked to account, and wasn't back ordered. It seems to be random.
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
No same here.

I was under the impression that the reason we were delayed was because there was a delay getting stock out. If it's because they have no stock left then it's absolutely shocking!
[Nexus 4 General] knowlesy:
well looks like the friday rumor was bs =( on another bad note engadget is reporting a 3 week delay but from what its saying I'm assuming its just in relation to the americans.. http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/nexus-4-backordered/ this is imo a real bad showing from google as thy messed up with the nexus 7 and they really need to sort their customer relations
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Anyone else staring to think there not getting this phone till next year
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Whatever you say, but you can't beat Apple's launches. I know a lot of people are out there on back order too, but number of orders is not even comparable.

Welcome to Anonymous Nooboholics. My name it tinky.
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
Erm me.... Thinking about another phone if im honest..
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
Thinking about a shop...
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
The thing I find most shocking is that it was supposed to be first come first served, my order time was 8:29 (although that was still a good 15 minutes after I had given up)
[Nexus 4 General] losimagic:
I'm starting to feel glad that my order didn't go through now :(
[Nexus 4 General] threelions:
Same. I'd like to wait but my old SGS is starting to fall apart and I really need a phone. Let's be honest the next batch will probably sell out in another messy release so might as well go elsewhere I can put cyanogen on whatever I get anyway.