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[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
I'm really thinking about rocking the phone naked. It seems too sleek to cover it up!

Yip, click me and check out this thread. I actually read most of the last pages and it does seem that some people ( probably newer, ie 11 and 12 models - so that is November and decemeber units ) have been getting descent battery life.

I do think Google will release an update soon that should have some improvements though.

So that is why you're vexed lol, I was wondering why you were bothered by dec.10 orders being changed to 2nd jan. It might still change though as people keeping posting that there where changes even recently.

Mine is being delivered to London too, so hopefully they dispatch in batches according to location, seems like that would save dough.

Anyone else in Dublin seen changes?
[Nexus 4 General] texaslittleangel:
Did you get this one as well?

I thought £6.99 for front and back was a pretty decent price if the quality is as described by the seller.
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
My google play shows 2nd Jan, pre-ordered, but wallet shows "Dec 6 Google Commerce Ltd received your order" instead of pending.

As this is my first android phone (currently a blackberry and an iphone), I think I will use it unrooted for a few days. Also probably without screen protector or case/bumper
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Just a usufel tip: At least unlock the bootloader better now than later! Unlocking later it will wipe everything in the phone!
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
thanks for the tip, will have a look at the root stuff while waiting for the shipping email :)
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
I got the exact same protector. Excellent quality

I did use a bottle of LCD screen cleaner spray instead of water. It has a pump spray which makes application a doddle. Really keep your finger tips wet too

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
In wallet click transactions or the back arrow on the top left. What does it state above your device?

I was thinking about this and have thought that I'd want to wipe my phone clean at some point. Especially after installing/uninstalling some apps to test out.

Is it that hard / long to setup the phone? Contacts can be backed up right? What else makes it a hassle?
[Nexus 4 General] ralph78:
Is there any more people from 4 th Dec who didn't receive any updates yet for 16Gb ? I'm still stuck at pre order with 6 th Dec in Google play.

Sent from my SGS2 using TT.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Anyone else an 8th of December order, or later, who's date had changed to 2nd of January and has received shipment confirmation yet?
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
I think most/all people are still stuck at 'pre-ordered' but I think you're one of the few still not had a date change.

Ordered on the 6th, date in play is 2nd Jan. Still pre-ordered'
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Dec 8th order, no date change still pre order. No update or emails :(
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Same but as long as mine arrives before the 23rd im not bothered :)
[Nexus 4 General] metymun:
16GB

Ordered on 4th Dec

Received on 6th Dec

Have been told 4-5 week estimated by order receipt email and 5th Jan by automated email.

No date change or anything else. Everything is exactly same as the day of order.

Pre-ordered 6th Dec in play

Pending 4th Dec in wallet

Lovely!
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
after back arrow, shows pending
[Nexus 4 General] GauharJK:
I had ordered my Nexus 4 on 4th December 17:54

I was a 4-5 weeker.

Google sent my phone early (27th December) while I was out on vacation. TNT then sent it back to Google.

What should I do next to get back the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
You don't really need me to tell you surely ?

Contact Google by email or call.
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Come on Google send the shipping email, please!
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
This ^^^
[Nexus 4 General] Nova163:
Contacts are synced with Google and setting up your phone again takes one minute max, but your apps and settings will be gone, that might take longer to restore. Some apps back up their data, but if they don't your app settings and data will be gone too.

It's not that much of a hassle really, unless you want to restore your progress in games etc. There are backup programs (titanium backup) that back up your settings and data.
[Nexus 4 General] Lawliet:
Call them and they will refund and cancel your order... and you have to re-order again. The Play Store is still out of stock, however.
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
If this happened to me, I think I'd give up. Whatever happened to holding at the DC?
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
He was away on vacation - they will only hold the package for so long - time frame possibly set by google - then they have to return it.
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
I don't know of anyone that has received their shipping mail after the 5th yet.

+1 I think next week this time we won't be in this thread....hope anyway.

ok cool. Do you know when you uninstall apps if any system files are still left on the phone? or maybe still in cache? For example windows has .dll and registry files that aren't uninstalled. I know on unix/linux systems sometimes you have to manually remove them, hence why i'd like to clean wipe the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Nova163:
I'm not sure about the technical side of things, but there's definitely apps that leave files behind on the SD card and it's a common phenomenon that a phone gets slower after a long time without wipe, so I agree with your idea about wiping everything at some point: it's possible to back up everything you want and it's probably half an hour work if you know what you're doing, so definitely worth your while.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Super wipe just takes too long for me,

sorry,

I just can't do it anymore. Lol
[Nexus 4 General] kon_fil:
Ordered 12/12 and still pending.... :(
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Ordered 07/12 and pending, I can't not understand what Google are playing at, people who ordered after me have seen progress
[Nexus 4 General] GretaLewd:
I wish they would tell us what, if any, logic there is to order processing. Maybe it's your height, or the number of letters in your name, or....:silly:

Ordered 5th Dec 10:55 UTC. No change since then :(
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
I agree doesn't make any sense what so ever, someone should email CNET or something and tell them of Google shambles at order processing.

I really feel sorry for anyone who ordered before me and has has no progress.

I myself am pretty upset

I'm hoping for a good week next week
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Quote below from CSR at Google, as I enquired the same:

" Orders are shipped based on the estimate in your order confirmation email. Once an order has been processed you'll receive a second ship confirmation email, after which it will take an additional two business days for your order to be delivered.

Upon receiving your shipping confirmation email, you'll be given a UPS tracking number that will assist you in determining your package's estimated delivery date. You can track your UPS delivery by providing this tracking number at http://www.ups.com/tracking/tracking.html

For more information on shipping and delivery, please see this article in our help center:

http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2411789

Thanks,*

Mandy

The Google Play Support Team"

Whether or not they are actually following this, who knows. Fingers crossed, mine comes a bit quicker than 23rd January.
[Nexus 4 General] Exciliknite:
Google screwed things up before. But last batch process was much smoother than the previous ones, which makes me believe they're slowly learning with their mistakes.

I know everyone wants to get their devices asap, but so far there are no evidences Google won't do it right this time. Noone seems even able to tell what this date change means. So let's wait patiently :) There's not that much we can do.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
True, but previous date changes mean that the order is next in line to be shipped,

But like you said we can't do crap, its more upsetting to see them processing orders randomly.
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
Not really.

The phone isn't locked to a network, but is available 'discounted' as part of a contract, so not sim free.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
Sorry to say but the above contains no new information. Also TNT deliver our phones in the UK, and not UPS. Seems like a copy/paste job or a clueless CSR (if they are'nt all).
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
All I can say is Google S**k. Lol

Wish the SGS3 was cheaper. :)

Never mind, it happens
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
I called in an RMA like 2 days ago and my new Nexus has shipped. Strange orders aren't shipping :/

I know RMA's are suppose to have their own stock, but it was awfully quick to get sent.
[Nexus 4 General] flipmokid:
When you complete checkout does Google take the money straight away or does it put an authorisation hold for that amount on the credit card? If it's the authorisation hold then could the date change be Google renewing the authorisation hold (as I read somewhere that they are typically valid for 30 days)?
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Well it wasn't 30 days since my order. But who knows, It may be easier for Google to renew then en masse.
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
Can I just remind everyone that selling anywhere on the forums is no longer allowed as per the forum rules (rule 7).

I have deleted all posts on the last page which reference the sale of a Nexus 4 and if its repeated in this or any other threads warnings and/or infractions will be issued so anyone seeing this please continue to report these posts.

Thanks

AvRS
[Nexus 4 General] CalumL:
My card isn't showing any pre-authorised transactions, but my order date switched to 2nd Jan.
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
Quick questions guys, does it state 16gb or 8gb on the box?
[Nexus 4 General] doubleluckstur:
That's really strange that yours has shipped because I asked for a new Nexus on the 25th since mine was broken and mine still hasn't shipped? :S
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
No point in even talking to them now. I intent to TRY and put it at the back of my mind and hope for the fateful day when I get a shipping notification.

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Google Play Support is the absolute worst I have seen ever. No one ever responds to your questions, and you get the same C/P email again and again.
[Nexus 4 General] thl1988:
Sim Free means unlocked to any network, regardless of whether its purchased with a SIM card or not.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I'm not being funny guys but if you were a google employee being bombarded with emails and calls from irate customers who wanted to know why their phone hadn't been shipped

IN ADVANCE

of the estimated shipping time how do you think you'd deal with it.

Your phones CANNOT be shipped atm as google do not have any in stock - FACT. As soon as they get them from LG they will send out the shipping emails.

I know its frustrating not having any info but if all orders had exceeded your estimated shipping times by a week, 2 weeks or longer and THEN there was nothing but silence then by all means - go ape ****.

I too would dearly love hear an announcement that google were expecting a huge consignment on Monday - you guys are the LUCKY ones - I haven't even placed an order yet ! So at least you have something to luck forward too ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Nova163:
Lol, good thing you're sure Google has no stock
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
But Google LG are giving Google stock for the US. And I know it is a different country but shouldn't they supplement the stores with no stock so customers don't have to wait as long. Then concentrate on getting enough stock to go back on sale WORLDWIDE. Not ignoring the other countries, like ours.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Well the last delivery they had was when the last batch of shipping emails went out around the 20th Dec. There were well over 100 members got mails - just go back in the thread its all there.

Since then apart from 1 or 2 non have gone out.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
To be honest I'm not upset about waiting 6-7 weeks but I'm not happy that Google are date changing orders that were placed after mine.

Yes, you could say its just a date change, but its somthing.

Maybe they will get shipping emails before me next week, maybe they won't but looks like when the next batch comes in they will get priority which doesn't seem right.

My bad luck lol

Also have you heard anything when Google are getting any more, you were in contact with a Google employee ? Someone Dan told you about ? Or was that someone else ?
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
Can someone please answer: Does it state the GB size on the box? Or the delivery box?

Cheers.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
I would assume on the actual box? Not too sure.
[Nexus 4 General] kac.:
People, if it's still within the estimate given by Google you'd be wise not to expect your phone to be delivered. They've fcuk'd the whole order process to date; what makes you think they're going to get it sorted now AND get deliveries out early?

I ordered on the 5th and am expecting on the 16th (I hope it's a girl!). If it arrives before then I'd happily eat my iPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
You can steal from me, you can beat me but please don't take my hope!
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
Google staffs need Xmas holidays, transport (ship/ planes) may also be short of staff during that time. Hope those workers in Korea did not take a month off.

Previous posts are correct, if we are still within the time estimation given by google, don't blame them, don't keep emailing Google and ask things obvious they can not answer, they are probably as unhappy as we are, as no one would expect this kind of mess to ruin the Google reputation. Just wait, for me there is still a week (currently within the 4th of the 4 - 5 weeks), but happy to see the date changed.

The biggest mistake made by google is breaking the 'first come first served' police, which makes those hasn't received the phone feel unfair and unhappy.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
With your situation I do understand why you are over anxious BUT I'm willing to bet that when it comes to the shipping emails it won't make a blind bit of difference - and I will be checking the thread and keeping an special eye out - hoping that you have been sorted - as I'm sure that goes for everyone else who has been following the thread for a while and is aware of your concerns.

Re: Google contact, no I haven't been in touch with them - don't forget I'm still waiting to actually order mine - hence my rather desperate lurking on the thread :o
[Nexus 4 General] Nova163:
Doesn't seem much use when they haven't send out all 05/12 orders yet and the phone was up for sale until 13/12... There's still a lot of preorders to be served first.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
There are roughly 33 people waiting on this thread atm from the time frame you have just stated 5/12 - - 13/12 of course this doesn't mean there are no others. My belief is that if the numbers add up - that 70.000 N4's were made in October - 90.000 - Nov and 200.000 in December - the next batch that google receive will be bigger than any previous they've had.

There are FAR FEWER numbers awaiting shipping mails than previous. All the while there are no phones for sale in Google Play the more negative press and media coverage is appearing and not just from android websites/blogs anymore. It has now been over a month since launch 2 [launch 2 came only 3 weeks after launch 1] this extra time is due to google using the last delivery to full-fill previous orders.

They will want to get the Play Store stocked again sooner rather than later - I think the next time it is stocked the stock will last even longer as apart from a small number [myself included] all the 'hardcore' google/android loyalists should be sorted [the rooting/modding/customising/dev community].

Everything may seem gloomy at the moment but the general belief/feeling [outside of this thread ;)] is that there will be some movement inside the next 14 days.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
14 days :( he he
[Nexus 4 General] vukis:
Can somebody tell url and post screenshot of that page where the google play order should be changed to JAN 2 and status to preorder?

A friend of mine ordered it in UK at 05-Dec-2012 21:33:24 GMT so I would ask him if it his order status of mine nexus 4 changed or not :) But I don`t know how to explain where to go and what to check. Thank you in advance!
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
I disagree.

Sim free just means the phone is bought without subsidy and/or commitment to a contract. Contracted phones can be either locked to a network or not (i have owned phones in both states).

Obviously the Nexus 4 isn't locked and can be either bought sim free or subsidised.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Play.google.com/store/account
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Generally sim free means sold without a sim and the phone is unlocked. So the phone is unsubsidised.
[Nexus 4 General] vukis:
Thank you! Maybe somebody make a screen shot too? :)
[Nexus 4 General] samubak:
Ordered Nexus 4 on 04-Dec-2012 12:05:16 PST, 4-5 weeks. As to my calculations this week is the 5th week I contacted google play support today asking about my order, and received replay "We go by business days so "12/04/2012 - 01/06/2013 " is a total of 22 business days. We are working to ship your order as quickly as possible. You will receive an email confirmation as soon as your order is processed and on its way.", looks like google is counting weeks differently "5 weeks * 7 business days = 35 business days". Few weeks ago I checked on my status and i got automatic replay "According to our records, your order should ship by the evening of 05-01-2013.", when i asked the support guy Austin about that he just said that "05-01-2013 was an estimated time and as of right now the order is still processing.". Love how google counts the weeks and how this is all not their fault and the shipping is not late at all...
[Nexus 4 General] thl1988:
I sold mobile phones for over two years. Sim Free means the phone is unlocked.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
SIM free means whatever you want it to mean, it's not some official legal definition.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
10//01/2012 is 5 weeks + 2 days shipping =

4 Dec order placed -

11 Dec = 1 week

18 Dec = 2 weeks

25 Dec = 3 weeks

1 Jan = 4 weeks

8 Jan = 5 weeks

+ 2 days shipping = 10th Jan

Take no notice of the Google employee - if this version were true then why did all those previous orders receive refunds for shipping ? they would have had no reason to refund as this version of the Mayan - - - oops sorry - Google calender would get them out of a whole heap of shipping refunds :laugh:

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As I understand it Sim Free is when a store sells the phone without contract and without a PAYGO deal.

I have often wondered why there is a huge price difference between Sim Free and buying on PAYGO -- the phone costs more on Sim Free deal ?

I often thought that for example buying from CWH the phones are unlocked anyway so why wouldn't a customer buy the phone for say £50 cheaper on PAYGO [they make you buy £10/£20 credit but that still leaves the phone £30/£40 cheaper] use up the credit - then chuck the Sim away ?
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Im hoping Google will clear all the back orders next week

A huge shipment must be in the works after seeing those production numbers going up month after month.
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
Google just re-defined the meaning of "ONE WEEK" !!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
disagree.

try telling yourself that your unlocked nexus 4 is sim free whilst you're paying 02 thirty quid every month for 2 years.;)

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indeed.
[Nexus 4 General] AnonymousPenguin:
That's not what he said. He's saying that all phones advertised as sim free are unlocked and you're saying that not all unlocked phones are sim free. Both statements can be true if some, but not all, unlocked phones were sim free.
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
What he said is that "sim free" means the phone is unlocked. It doesn't (just mean that).

You can have an unlocked phone that isn't sim free.
[Nexus 4 General] thl1988:
I think we're getting a little off topic here. Clearly you seem to think you know what you're talking about, as do I.

Let's just agree to disagree, and get back to whinging about when our phones are going to arrive!
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Just seen another forum post, where somebody who ordered 28 November is just receiving their shipping notification.

If they are still sorting out orders this far back, we could be in for a wait towards the end of January as per the shipping estimate originally from Google.

:o
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
28 Nov, that's orders in US or other countries. UK here some ordered on 4th posted they've received the shipping email.
[Nexus 4 General] headandneck:
Decided to cut TNT out of the loop on this one. Spoke to Google and they have remotely disabled the device and issued me a refund.

When I asked them about getting a new device they said I would have to place another order which, as well all know, is impossible until they sort out their stock problems.

All in all, I waited 5 weeks for a phone that never materialised and there's no way of getting hold of another one. Poor communication from Google and poor service from TNT. Still, at least I am getting my money back.

Hope you all have better luck than I did!
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Lucky you, one side we have Google forgetting some orders and other side TNT messing up delivers

:(
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Too much shipping silence in this thread... I am a little scared!
[Nexus 4 General] Exciliknite:
I wasn't expecting any news during the weekend. Hopefully we'll see some shipping emails during this week.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
I just hope we get some news during the week.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Here have a read of this - "Confession of an iphone lover" - who has switched to android after getting a NEXUS 4 :good:

http://gizmodo.com/5973073/an-iphon...tched-to-the-nexus-4-completely?post=55820166

Ps, There's a few irate iphone users who weren't to happy in the comments at the bottom :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] ghalalb:
I imagine your devices can't be far away, Virgin Mobile now have stock

http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewHandsetWithAllTariffs.do?offeringId=24143546

If Virgin can get stock, then there is no excuse for Google not to have any.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I'm still to order mine yet :laugh: just waiting for stock for sale sign in Play Store :rolleyes:

They are well expensive on 2 yr deal - cheapest is £31 for

Starter £31

Handset Price	£0.00

Your tariff gives you:

200 minutes

500 texts

500MB Mobile Web =

er NO THANX !!!
[Nexus 4 General] ghalalb:
Yeah same, I had one front CPW but it crapped out. Waiting for GP now as I don't want to pay CPW prices again
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
They MUST be due some soon as its 5 weeks tomorrow since they last went on sale and 4 weeks on Thurs since they sold out.
[Nexus 4 General] ghalalb:
We live in hope, in quiet desperation
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Til then I have my trusty old SGS 1 which I'm downloading the latest nightly as we speak/type and inverted gaaps and semaphore kernel - this shoud take my mind of the wait for 20 mins or so :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Those 5 weeks aren't 'Google' weeks.

Lol
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
True Dat :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Today is hopefully the day we see some movement or action!! I can feel it in my bones.....

Please can all keep us updated with their progress, and whether they receive shipping mails!

Waiting with anticipation....
[Nexus 4 General] edge12345:
My friend is suppose to flyback on 18th ....I hope it will be delivered by then at least. I had ordered of 5th early morning :(
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Brilliant read.... thanks mate!

:good: