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[Nexus 4 General] izglory:
Received a shipping email one hour ago, how long would it take for tnt to deliver it? i guess tnt wont be working tomorow.
[Nexus 4 General] Acritter:
I don't think they'll be delivering again till the 3rd.

What estimate did you have and when did your play account's date change?
[Nexus 4 General] izglory:
4-5weeks, ordered at dec 4 5.09pm . the date changed today.
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
got mine in my hand lovely piece of kit,speedy delivery to those who are waiting and a happy new year to you all,i'm now out of this thread at last,happy 2013
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
If you consider how quiet this thread is now with hardly any irate would be owners I'd say this is a good sign that there aren't many back orders left to fill. There is hardly anyone posting about orders when previously even those that weren't expecting delivery for several weeks were still posting.

Combined with the fact that the 16 gig was open for ordering for a good 8-9 days before being 'Sold Out' which I think was because only a handful of people actually placed orders over the last few days [compared to the HUGE numbers previously] I think the next batch that el Google receive will go a lot further than those before.
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Hope so, I'm 3 weeks into my wait after ordering on the 9th December. Estimate was 6/7 weeks, with shipping by 23rd January.

Sigh. :o
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
I'm on 6th Dec with same lead time :(
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Yeah, so over the 3 days the shipping time didn't change - possibly suggesting that they didn't receive mass orders.
[Nexus 4 General] superleeds27:
Make sure when it is out for delivery, you either stand next to your door or outside waiting.

TNT Delivery people don't knock, or ring bells, or post cards to let you know they've been.

Infact, they fail to turn up at all, and then blame you saying you can't have heard them!
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Had the phone almost a week now and trust me guys its sooo worth the wait. Took me a few days to root because of installing drivers on windows 8 :o Anyway I flashed ParanoidAndroid and makes the phone even better ;) So yeah the phone is epic apart from the OK battery life (get around 3-4hrs usually) Keep patient peeps ;)

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Haha no one was in when they delivered mine so fortunately he had the common sense to put it through the cat flap :D
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
you only get 3-4hrs battery ?

that must be days ?
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
When I'm using it yes
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
thats continuous ?

im confused sorry

if i use it for 3 or 4 hours at once ill need to charge ?
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
Think he must be talking about screen on time.

Otherwise I would advise him to send his phone back :p
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Yeah continuous use I get 3-4 hours.
[Nexus 4 General] hx4700 user:
Another happy customer - but watch the mobile data

My Nexus 4 arrived today. Ordered 5th December, 5-6 weeks quoted. It is early. A quick trip to O2 to get a micro SIM, and I am away.

WATCH OUT - THE only issue is that unlike my HD2, which when connected via Wi-Fi ONLY uses the Wi-Fi, the damn Nexus 4 has downloaded 472MB of data, against my monthly allowance of 500MB, and 2.79GB of Wi-Fi. I have found the data setting and turned it off. ALL of the mobile data was Android OS, whereas there was only 1.87MB of Android OS WI-Fi data.

Oh, and TNT website was confusing. Original email Friday 28th. On Saturday, TNT showed it as loaded on to van at 0414, and as "Out for delivery 0900-1800". So I stayed in, and nothing arrived. Today 31st, it showed as loaded onto van today! A quick phone call told me that the package was paid as a week day delivery. Annoying though.
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
Off topic but,

Happy new year :)
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Lets hope 6-7 weekers get delivery notifications soon :D
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Yep.

I'll be furious if I don't get my phone after waiting 6-7 weeks for it, if its faulty that's another thing,

in 2 weeks I expect progress.

I'm not too worried about Google now, I'm more worried about the clowns at TNT and them misplacing parcels.

If that happens then we have to replace a new order which isn't good
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Yea that's true. I don't fancy my phone being delivered to a randomer.
[Nexus 4 General] GretaLewd:
5-6 weeker, 16GB ordered 10:55 UTC (18:55 GMT) on 5th. No status change yet in Play / Wallet. :(
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Ah we'll looks like I'm not getting mine soon :P
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
I hope Google get a grip and start shipping orders for the 5th December.

The quicker they get theirs, the quicker we get ours.

Come on Google get you finger out, soo embarrassing, how can they try to compete with Apple or Microsoft when you cant even ship own branded devices.

Bet other companies must be laughing their heads off.

Samsung at LG, Microsoft and Apple at Google.
[Nexus 4 General] RomanosN:
Me too :confused: the shipping details are telling me to wait till 16/01/2013 [DD/MM/YYYY]
[Nexus 4 General] Jake-CT:
Anywhere to get bumpers in UK?
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
If it's sold out on the Play store, no.

I've ordered a case from the States, at a good price actually, which should give better protection on the back anyway, as the official bumper won't stop damage as it looks a bit too light for my liking.
[Nexus 4 General] itsfozzy:
Happy new year guys.

Just thought I'd give you guys a quick heads up, be very careful where you leave your phone, as mine has fallen off almost every smooth surface I've left it on!

No damage so far as it's always landed on carpet, but I swear my phone has tiny legs propelling it to an early grave!

Good luck when you get it.
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
Dec 4th Order 5:07, 1-2 week estimate. No movement whatsoever and no update whatsoever in the play store. Emails are returned by a bot with a stupid canned answer and customer service bull****s and says the phones are sent out in the order they're received.

I'm ready to give up soon.
[Nexus 4 General] Acritter:
When did Google actually receive your order? For instance, myself and several others ordered on the 4th but according to Google Wallet, it wasn't received by Google till the 6th.

We were given 4-5 week estimates and it seems that all 4-5 week orders have now been fulfilled other than ours. This suggests they are, as you were told, shipping the devices in the order in which Google received them.
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
"4 Dec - Google Commerce Ltd received your order."
[Nexus 4 General] legend618:
unfortunatley its not funny anymore, its a disaster. i think its more of a manufacture(LG) problem of supply and google for luck of communcation. i hope reporters at CES next week give them a hard time about this.
[Nexus 4 General] Acritter:
Hmm, not so sure what's wrong with that then. Did you have to update your payment details or anything?

Their customer service is evidently still awful. It seems that now they've satisfied 99% of their customers they can save themselves the effort and ignore the 1% of us with ongoing problems, safe in the knowledge that there's a strong possibility we'll either wait it out or order again in the next round as there aren't any comparative options at this price.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
That's true I think the media can shame them much more than just us

Hopefully they should take note from the critics at the CES event
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Dont think its lack of supply CPW and O2 have plenty of stock and now three do.
[Nexus 4 General] Acritter:
Given the sold out status of every Nexus device (made by Samsung and Asus in addition to LG), it's safe to say any responsibility should rest with Google.
[Nexus 4 General] steviewevie:
Do you realise that the volume of people trying to buy from the Google Play Store is orders of magnitudes higher than those buying from the likes of CPW etc, due in no small part to the price difference ?
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Yes I do realise that, I'm saying dont blame it on the lack of supply from LG. Google is probably giving retailers first units.
[Nexus 4 General] maheshanand87:
Looks like after the 4th Dec orders, they haven't yet got into fulfilling the 5th and 6th Dec orders. I wonder when they're gonna get to it?
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
i just hope this week is promising, i think holidays didnt help as many employee's must have been talking it easy.

the nexus 4 is a newer device and cheaper in terms of value compared to the tablets. thats why it sold out so quick

asus have been ok with their shipments but its Christmas so they are bound to sell out of stuff.

samsung are prob in the same boat as asus trying to keep up with christmas sales must have been tough,

i am not sure how quick the tablets sold out after launch and what was the ship time with them but the phone has been a disaster.

two months wait for some people is just too long, just imagine if this was apple, there share price would have tumbled quite a bit

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New Batch Of LG Nexus 4 Loses Its Glittery Back ?

http://www.autoomobile.com/news/lg-nexus-4-no-glitter/10010798/
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
I doubt it, Samsung make the Nexus 10 don't they? Seems they also suck at providing enough hardware. Probably scared of the competition with the Galaxy tab! :p

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I thought LG, Samsung and ASUS supplied 3rd parties direct rather than through Google?

Google appeared to have under ordered THEIR OWN PHONE initially and now have to wait in line for LG to fufill the commitments to places like CPW who have ordered since. It looks like with this 2nd round of deliveries Google have under ordered again, or LG are trying to push more units out to Google while supplying their other customers who have now been allowed to sell the phone (like 3).

That is apparently why the phone costs more outside the Play store as Google are presumably selling it at cost while LG are marking it up for third parties as they need to make some money back somehow (Google it, this was been leaked in Spanish media somewhere)...
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
That's true lol

Google might kick these lot up the back side after the nexus 4 fiasco

I think everyone gets it at the play store price..... o2, CPW and three. They all make money selling it with contracts. Not sure about pay and go. But they prob make money with that too because of the setup and after sales service....

I mean why would CPW or three even stock the device if play sell it cheaper.

If apple sold the iPhone at cost say 300 and the rest sold it for 519, who would go to CPW.
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Not really, most contracts/PAYG subsidise the price to make the phone cheaper which explains why more expensive phones are on similar contracts.

This is a first where the company selling the phone are selling it for close to cost rather than inflating the price (yes you Apple and Samsung) How else could you have a phone with iPhone 4 build quality (HD screen and glass front/back) and SIII beating spec (euro SIII doesn't have LTE either and only has 1GB RAM) for substantially less?

Google had a brilliant plan, shame they didn't have the confidence to back it with a bigger stock of N4s!!!

see below (take out the spaces, can't post links yet).

hexus .net /mobile/news/android/47638-lg-nexus-4-pricing-disparity-riles-european-retailers/
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Oh okay that bit about the suppliers does make sense aha. & aww i liked the glitter :(
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Come on guys - read between the lines.

1] LG have made some mods - which MUST surely have cost time in terms of production.

2] If the article is correct the mods have been made to make the FRAGILE glass stronger. So while I also prefer the glitter back - I'd much prefer to have the non glitter STRONGER version :good:
[Nexus 4 General] johhn:
many years ago when iphone 2 came out, I read a article which explained why the high price on almost all iphone prices (with or without contracts). it said that apple was behind the price-setting for all suppliers, so suppier cud go below the bottom line to start a price war, which in return would benefit buyers. only in this way, apple could guarantee themselves a steady revenue and ofc the market demands driven by the hype have been helping their scheme greatly since.

I guess one of the reasons that cpw and the like chose to sell nexus 4 is because they believe some their customer are still feeling more comfortable buying a handset from a real store and maybe many cant afford to cough up 300 quid up front.

I hope we can start seeing some movements from 2moro:)
[Nexus 4 General] GretaLewd:
Reading between the lines, if this story is true, how about the possibility that dropping the glitter back has allowed LG to speed up production after pressure from Google and has nothing to do with cracking glass?
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
? ? ?

Ok if lots of devices are being returned due to cracked/broken glass then it would make sense to make the change to a more robust version.

But why would they change the design if it wasn't to benefit the device/customer for a more sturdy product. Just how exactly would a change in materials speed up the production ?
[Nexus 4 General] GretaLewd:
It may be simpler (= faster) to produce a clear glass back vs. a glittery one.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
lets hope so @:--]

Off topic - my kaspersky isn't blocking this new video down in the left corner of the screen - anyone know how to get rid of it/block it out ?
[Nexus 4 General] legend618:
one thing i dont understand is how are RMA's getting their second or thrid phones before people who ordered and are on 3-4 weeks and stuff?:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
There is seperate stock allowance for RMA.
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Apple did the same with theirs. To stop loads of people with faulty devices having to wait.

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& I'd rather a glitter less back if it means its stronger.
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
How is removing the glitter making it stronger? Its still Gorilla glass 2!

Also it sounds like it may have been a faulty(?) unit as the 'circles' seem to be in place on the back but on closer inspection were missing the holographic/reflective material.

So either a cost/time cutting measure or someone messed up a batch of glass on a small number of units (hopefully).

Part of the reason for this over the SIII, other than the spec and the price ;), was that the SIII felt really cheap to me (bit better than the SII though!).

This felt and looked up there with HTC and Apple build quality. The sparkles made it stand out from the competition, removing this would take some of the phones personality away....
[Nexus 4 General] CalumL:
I now have an update on mine,

I ordered on 10th December, was showing as pre-ordered on the 10th in my Google Play account, it has now updated to 2nd Jan.

Looks like some movement on the way :)
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
You ordered on the 10th ?

WOW :good:
[Nexus 4 General] CalumL:
Yup, order date/time - 10 December 2012 11:05:36 UTC

I was given a 5-6 week time-frame at the time. It might suggest that a (big?) batch has arrived with Google, or else I've just queue jumped.
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
Yep, same here. Ordered on the 6th but now showing 2nd January in Play and has jumped to the top of the list. Status is still 'pre-ordered' though

Maybe they're able to process all the last orders as one batch :)
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
I think its soo close for the rest now, I'm shocked about the 10th order......

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Cheater lol

Congrates
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
I have an update too :)

No shipping mail, but date in Play has changed to the 2nd, still on pre-order, no change in Wallet, still showing pending and all dates are for the 5th.

Fingers crossed :) got a bit excited!
[Nexus 4 General] rkcj:
Bah, my 4-5 week order placed on the 4th (21:40), has had no movement. Oh well, as long as it ships in the next week, it will have been processed in the correct timeframe.
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Meh,

Ordered on the 6th an no update still preordered on Play and no change to wallet. I got exceted then, ordered on the 10th?

Happy for you, means we should hear something soon. Anyone still waiting from Nov or are they finaly caught up. I know a few were floating around the system.

Of to check my bank accout on the off chance a charge has been made.:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Seems a bit strange that an order on the 10th has had the date changed and not yourself :/

Let us know if there are any chances on your bank account!

Not sure if anyone would know, but due to ordering on my Debit card, i dont think it is possible to see if funds are being held? im with HSBC btw.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
same here, cant see pending transactions with hsbc,

it works with a barclays credit card though, i should have used that :(

no update for me any how
[Nexus 4 General] Gr00ber:
My order from 7th December has moved to the top of my play orders today too. Still listed as pre-ordered and there doesn't appear to be anything held on my CC yet so hopefully they've got a nice big batch ready to send out soon.
[Nexus 4 General] capt_carl:
Woot! Order changed in Play Store January 2nd.

Ordered 5th Dec 19:37 UTC.

Hope the orders start flooding through good luck guys.
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Chances for delivery by weeks end? Would be nice!!
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
no way your 7th has moved ?

mine hasent :(

rough time you ordered ?
[Nexus 4 General] Acritter:
My Play Account's changed to the 2nd! Ordered on the 4th with 4-5 week estimate. Looks like they might get it out within that time-frame after all!
[Nexus 4 General] Gr00ber:
Looks like I ordered about 11:30am. I did originally have a 4th December order which I had to cancel, but I don't suppose that had any affect on this order.
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Orderd on 6th, still pre order. Google still cocking things up i see
[Nexus 4 General] mzr92:
Ordered on the 8th with 6-7 weeks delivery estimate, order has updated to 2nd Jan
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
wtf,

i seen a 7th order a 10th order and now yours updated no mine

what a mess by google,

another user from the 5th or 6th has nothing updated
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Actually. 2 x 16gb ordered on 6th now changed to 2nd January. 1 x 16gb ordered on 7th also changed to 2nd January.

Also have an entry on my google play for another single 16gb which hasnt updated and for some reason takes you to the order page for the 2 x 16gb. No idea what is going on there.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
thats alot of 16gb's
[Nexus 4 General] maheshanand87:
Ordered mine on the 6th at 3:10:06 PM UTC-8. Play store date changed to 2nd Jan. Hope everyone gets it soon this time
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
3 in total. One for me and one for the younger bro ordered on 6th. Ordered one on 7th for a work colleague as their credit card was rejected by google.

the other one showing is a non order. I didnt place it, its saying pre ordered and when i go into the details its displaying the order for the 2 x 16gbs. Fault on google play somewhere
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Yeah no wonder they sold out ;) ....
[Nexus 4 General] darkhorse10:
Ordered on 7th Dec

Great that many people ordered before and after me are getting updates. http://xdaforums.com/images/smilies/good.gif

Hopefully I get some update soon. Can anyone confirm about the plain rear glass??? I am not sure I will like it without the glittery effect.
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Sold out before my orders went through though!
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
I ordered on the 13th with 6-7 weeks delivery estimate and my order just today has updated to 2nd Jan in the Play Store. At least something is happening.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
wow a 13th order!
[Nexus 4 General] johhn:
same status change has happened to my order (5th with 4-5 weeks), still pending and no change on credit card balance though.

come on google !
[Nexus 4 General] metymun:
Happy to hear that!

I have still nothing..

4-5 week estimate, ordered on 4th Dec, received on 6th.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
AFAIK the rear isn't Gorilla Glass™...
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
16G, ordered on 4th, 10.08pm, 4-5 weeks, received by google on 6th. Date changed today. Waiting for the shipping email!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] ralph78:
Ordered on 4th estimated delivery 4-5 weeks, still pending no changes...Now I'm angry willing to cancel my order...

Sent from my SGS2 using TT.
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Give Google a ring and give them a piece of your mind!
[Nexus 4 General] druggeduk:
Ordered on the 5th of December at about 11:30pm with a 5-6 week estimate - order has updated in the Play Store with todays date....

Lets hope I get a shipping email soon!
[Nexus 4 General] Dazzh82:
Ordered late on the 10th Dec 6-7 weeks play just updated to the 2-01-13!
[Nexus 4 General] biosniper:
Ordered on 10 December 2012 06:25:38 UTC-8

5-6 weeks estimated, no updates yet. Interesting that some have for the 10th and even some for the 13th.

I'm wondering if they are even really processing these in any logical order or maybe running a batch update for users that ordered within a certain time frame, and its going alphabetically or something for the actual updates?
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
Another play order here that has changed to todays date.

My order was dec5 with 5-6weeks estimated delivery. Delivery location is London.

Everything is the same except the play order date. Still exciting anyway..
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
looks like these are random
[Nexus 4 General] druggeduk:
I just got an email from Google entitled "Welcome to the Nexus S"!

Do they even know what their phone is called? Why am I getting an email from years ago? :laugh:

Anyone else got this or is it unrelated? I put a new rom on my old phone last night so maybe they think I have a Nexus S now or something?
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
so if my date in google play has changed to 2nd jan. is it safe to say I should have my order within 2 working days
[Nexus 4 General] mike_dangerous:
Date on my orders on Play Store updated to 2nd January. Ordered December 5th around 8pm UTC 5-6 weeks...
[Nexus 4 General] druggeduk:
Nothing is "safe to say" when it comes to the whole Nexus 4 situation, but in most cases when people have had their orders updated their phones have been dispatched shortly afterwards.
[Nexus 4 General] gavhall:
Ordered 16gb on the 10th. Now says 2nd Jan on play store........:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Seems random,

Nothing changed for me.

I think because the 3-5 day orders have been dispatched Google have gone to their old ways....
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Ordered on 8th. Still no update. Judging by you guys I might be in luck for an update on my order. People ordered on the 13th and still have an update for christ sake!
[Nexus 4 General] LilDeamon:
No update on my December 5th order. Should it just jump to the top of your play 'My Orders' list with the new date?
[Nexus 4 General] Perks:
i've been watchign this thread very closely, i'm from Portugal, but ordered via borderlinx, since i was given a "5 to 6 weeks" delivery time, i didn't feel i had the right to feel angry like most of you had

Ordered on 5th December, the status on Wallet says google received it on 7 (not sure why this 2 days difference)

Anyway, on playstore still preordered, but the date is 7th December instead of 5 since some weeks ago i guess,

so not nothing has changed for me

now seeing all of those playstore dates changing and mine didn't, i'm starting to feel a little apprehensive...