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[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
How can it be less relevant? Why don't you read the ****ing title? It states "information". for example, a shipping notice is "information".

I'm aware that the o2 PAYG deal etc (and massive inflated price tag that only an idiot would consider buying) also falls under this but there seems to be quite a lot of chat about this so I was politely asking if another thread could be created specifically for that?

i.e there is a google play orders and shipping thread at the very top yet there are others for each individual country on the board too.

Are you grasping it yet?
[Nexus 4 General] stalkachu:
I missed my window here, and I'm fairly sure we're going to be waiting a long time whilst my previous phone depreciates. Pondering picking up a second hand 32gb HTC One X for £230 or so. Crazy how cheap they're going given their specs compared to everything else. Seem like a good idea? Or not?

Semi-relevant, I know. But I can't see this being available before christmas, and if I can get a powerful similarly specced phone and run cyanogen on it that seems a reasonable place to start.

(I'm also concerned that the screen might be too small given the software buttons on it. I know someone will bring out a real full screen mode, but it's still a big hit compared to the 4.7 and 4.8s out there (I found one in an o2 store the other day and was surprised how, well, square it was.))
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I have the HOX and it's an excellent phone. It's probably just as good (if not better) than the Nexus 4.

The reason I'm getting rid of it is because the Nexus looks better and it's cheap as chips. I do prefer to have the stock google experience as they say...
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1962514 is the topic where you moand about play stor orders and shipping

and this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1973898 is where you talk about contracts (o2), news (new stock available etc), information (cashback like quidco, discounts like o2open etc)

Simple

I'm really annoyed about this topic, every time I'm checking it, there is 3-4 pages where people say... mine hasnt shipped yet, ordered 8.24AM or, I didnt get the backorder email will it ship??.

And in a pile of those posts you find (and you have to read everything to spot something) some actual useful information like O2 discounts and cashback, or free TV
[Nexus 4 General] stalkachu:
It is cheap as chips, but the HOX is cheaper and has the whole storage problem thing wrapped up. But yeah. I'm a big fan of the stock google experience I just don't like waiting. You know that feeling where you set aside money to buy something (Nexus 4) and then you can't buy it, so you just start hunting around for something else to spend the money on? That's me right now. But on a logical level, the One X looks great. Galaxy S3 would be good, but you're looking at 300+ for that, and I'll get 190-200 for my phone right now, so it's a difference between £30 and £100 for the trade-up, which is pretty big. But...yeah. Rambling.

Cheers for feedback. ^_^
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
Seperate thread

I would prefer a separate threads for

a) UK Google Play orders

b) UK o2 Orders
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I agree in theory but it has never worked. The sticky topic has been overtaken with the US posters as they're receiving shipping orders more frequently than us.

It works both ways mate. I'm looking for information from Google Play with regards to shipping info, updates with processing etc yet all I see are o2 posts (see what I did there?). All the UK posters jumped to this thread ages ago due to what I mentioned above.

Also, it never seemed to bother anyone when the orders were on schedule and shipping.

I work for o2 and I'll be extremely surprised if folk who have bought the phone on PAYG actually receive the free TV.
[Nexus 4 General] Devzz:
This.

@Savo83 - Guy, you need to chill and back off. Stop getting defensive that's why everyone's arguing. Its the right place to post contract/offers information, if you want a separate UK shipping thread by all means start one. I think it would've been a bit stupid to start one for the small (yet useful, funnily enough) amount of info I had.
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
i would like a nexus 4 then i can leave this thread
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
In my experience (I've used both extensively) I feel the HOX is superior to the Galaxy. If you can get the HOX cheaper then I would jump for it. The build quality of the HOX is a lot better and I also prefer HTC's overlay compared to the cartoonish TouchWizz from Samsung.

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As would I.
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
I'm gonna give Google a call in the morning to see what other rubbish they are gonna come up with, anyone fancy placing bet now????
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
To anyone who has done the o2 contract deal already: did you manage to remove the £3 data add on?
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
You're probably correct but I'm just at the end of my tether.

No phone. Broken leg. No communication. Pissed off.
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
Lol

I did not think it worth creating one for such a vanishingly low probability event
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
gimme the number mate and i will call too,see if we get matching bs:good:
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
I have removed the add on from a previous O2 account. You can either go in store, on the chat, ring up or go to your account management to remove the bolt on.
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
lol,ive got a plan,hold out for the nexus 5 :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Devzz:
No harm done :) Google's done everyone's tit in. I'm too broke for o2 yet I considered them. You'll get it soon enough! Surely whatever you're using can't be as bad as what I've had for 2 months.
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
You will. It's interesting that they're saying those in the US will get shipping info today as they've had new information that orders will be processed tonight.

People over here need to wake up. ALL the allocation is going to the US as they have a major holiday coming up and they want this cluster**** to have ended for then. We might have distribution centres in europe but they're useless if all the stock is in the US...

We will be last as always. The whole three weeks thing seems entirely relevant to us...
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
0800 328 6081
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I'm using a HOX so I'm not really too fussed if I have to wait. It's the lack of information that is sending me mad.

This is Google for feck sake. Release a proper statement..
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Thanks. Ordering the Nexus 4 on the cheapest contract now. My sister has paid the difference (£120, taking the £50 cashback from topcashback into account) in hope we can get a TV. If not, I have 7 days to return the phone.

Here's hoping! :good:
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
Let me know how you two get on :good:
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
cheers mate,in protest im sending my n7 back....only joking:)
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
Soon as I know anything I will update to give everyone the info
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
take the phone,sell it to me and you take the fine:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I'd phone too but I'd end up in jail 20 minutes later.
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
+1 on that:good:
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
can anyone tell me how to ger £100 o2 open ?? only thing I can see is 50. And on top of the £50 quidco...
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
I think we should ALL phone up at the same time just to see how they like being messed around
[Nexus 4 General] Devzz:
And then there's me, currently using a Nokia 6230 because I lost my Gnex 2 months ago. Was a sad, sad day.
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
better chance of getting a n4 in there
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
It's only available to business customers.

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Not in Hamilton ;)
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
bar l is awash with them hahaha
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
After using my nexus 4 for 3 days gnex feel like a plastic toy phone lol:D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
Haha, I'll wait it out I think ;)

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Are you 5?
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
The Nokia 6230 is a legendary phone.
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
ive still got the 6230i which i use for a radio lol
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
This is what the guys in the US are getting now. As I said, we're getting shafted so their stock is delivered in time for the holidays.

It might be nonsense but as I said earlier in the thread, they're also getting the same answers on the phone now
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
Does anybody know whether I can buy the O2 contract online to get quidco and then claim the open discount of £50?

Or is it one or the other?
[Nexus 4 General] Devzz:
Legendary maybe, but utterly useless when you're used to that buttery JB! Had it 14 years though, battery lasts 36+ hours and only last week did the vibrate stop working :)
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Quidco = online

O2 Open = in store

One or the other mate!
[Nexus 4 General] fluent1:
I'm pretty sure the phone was released within the last ten years. Still pretty impressive though!
[Nexus 4 General] Devzz:
Foggy memory! 10 years is a long time so well-done to Nokia on that one
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Currently on hold with a CSR named Sierra....

Within 3 weeks :(
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
Can you ask why the US are getting theirs tomorrow according to the new information.

I'm awaiting an email response..
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Can anyone tweet O2 to see how many TV's are left? Thinking of getting one on PAYG only if I can get the TV. Would make a great third monitor.

If I get this on PAYG and open the seal, can I still return it?
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Too late. When she said 3 weeks I burst into tears and hung up.

Just give them a ring. It's free, 24 hours and no waiting time. 08003286081

High volume of calls will push them to seek for more info.
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I won't do it. I'll go ballistic. I'll end up in jail. :victory:

Did you get anything useful out of her at all?
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
Hmm, up to 3 weeks from the 13th? Or now ...

That would put us limbo level 3 people at 4th to 11th December at the latest to expect our devices.
[Nexus 4 General] mustyrash:
Well I asked earlier today and they said they have plenty so I got 2 on pay and go,1 for me and the other for my bro, I tweeted my receipt and got the DM, my bro tweeted his and didn't even get a reply.

I'm not gonna open any of the phones until they clearly say when I will get the tv. If they don't get back to us or clear up the situation then I'm gonna give em back since I haven't canceled my play store order, which feels like its never gonna come.

Hopefully tomorrow they will clarify the situation because they're telling PAYG customers that they've got the tv but then they're saying its only for pay monthly.

Keep the boxes sealed so they can't try and BS their way out of it. £400 is a lot of cake to risk for something you should be able to get for £280

Hope I helped :)
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
Can't see any unlimited data package with tesco sim. I'm using giffgaff £15 a month sim 400 mins unlimited text and internet.
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
I'm playing it safe and taking out the contract (£10.50 per month) which, with Quidco cashback, works out to be £382. I'm still only £280 as my sister is paying the £120 for the TV... which I'll be using! Gotta love a good sister!

If I get a TV, winning! If not, I'll return it.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Cheers buddy :)

The safer alternative is to take the contract route but you've got to wait atleast another day for delivery and if there's none left - That seems like a real ball ache to return.

Any idea if you can return from online to instore?
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
I checked that TV on curry's its 399, so you should charge more to your sister :D
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Yeah I'm just hoping that since they've updated the terms to pay monthly only it'll slow down the 'redemptions'. Not entirely sure if you can return to store. Hopefully so!

Haha, yeah she's getting off pretty lucky!
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
You'll definitely be adored for being a top notch brother :cowboy: :D
[Nexus 4 General] mustyrash:
yeah i realised that i should have got a cheap-o contract instead but what can you do hey. but i must resist opening the box till i either get confirmation of a tv or my play store 1 arrives.

i dont wanna open it up and them turn around and say, "the box has been open and the device has been used GTFO" or even worse i drop it! then id be stuck with an overpriced smashed disco ball that doesnt know what december is :(
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Put the box down and walk away!

I'm the same - when I receive the phone I'm going to wait for confirmation that a TV is on it's way before I stick my Orange SIM into it!
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
loled :)
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Hahaha!

Ah man! Decisions, decisions. I'm not quite sure what to do!

The O2 shop seems to be down right now.
[Nexus 4 General] kaiowas82:
Well, I bought at 400£ from o2, they gave me a TV that I'm selling at 300, so I'm one of the first to have the n4, I've not spent a week checking play store wallet TNT mail and whining on xda, and in the end the phone cost me only 100£.

Who's the idiot again? :D

No flaming, just want to point out that judging and insulting people doesn't really help yourself....I don't see a problem in having two thread, as I don't see a problem in leaving as it is, not really a matter to argue for :)
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Yeah I noticed that! :mad: Refreshing every few minutes!
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
O2 said the tvs may be up to 28 days so your return window might run out (probably why they're doing it that way)
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Once they've contacted me for my details then confirm one is on it's way, I'll be happy. Hopefully it doesn't take 28 days. 1-2 weeks would be great!
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
agh well looks like i will only be using xda for my nexus 7 as i will probably have an iphone 5 this time next week
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
My concern is whether there tweet is enough to be on the ground of proof. It seems like their T&C's give them a clause to trap you (28 days) and 14 days to return with DSA. It's quite a high risk to take either way.
[Nexus 4 General] mustyrash:
lol, its so awesome how you've got the shahada as your footer thingy :)

but yeah, if they dont get back to me about the tv thing by Saturday morning then im giving it back and waiting for google.

i just think im being impatient and i need something "nexusy" to do till i actually am able to get a device in my hand. if this takes up a whole week then fine, its 1 less week of staring at my email waiting for google to give me some news, any news!
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
Where you selling that mate. I might think of selling mine once it turn on.

Btw even though I bought my nexus on pay&go I tweeted my photo and receipt and got DM saying I will get TV within 28 days as long as I keep the phone but can they cancel it because I'm pay as you go customer. This is what I'm worried about. Say after 14 days they drop me a DM saying sorry you are not eligible for TV cause you are God damn pay&go customer. then I willnot be able to return it and have to carry a really overprice nexus.

I dropped a DM to o2 about this issue hopefully they clear everything then if it doesn't suite me I'm gonna kick my nexus back to o2 store :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Brother from another mother! :D

I just received 2 emails from Robbie over on Google support and shockinly, he responded within 12 minutes to email as opposed to 2 days. He said he would refund my shipping and that it will be here 'within 3 weeks'. Poor form Google. These poor guys have no idea what's going on :confused:

I have a feeling the PAYG could go horrendously wrong. I can imagine a scenario where they honour from a tweet. Then after 3 weeks state that in their T&C it clearly outlines that it must be a contract. The result? An unopened N4 for weeks that you cannot return with no TV.

Now that? That would suck. HARD.
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
You could probably flog it on eBay - "brand new in box" :)
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
SMH I'm emailing them now. Did you email it to googleplay-support@google.com?
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
Exactly its a trap by o2 whoever has tweeted so far both pay&go and pay monthly were told they will get TV where t&c clearly says this offer for only pay monthly customers. WTF o2 why you no explain clearly :rolleyes::confused::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Hah, I think we have enough of them!

Yup.
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
Lol not in good mode but couldn't stop laughing. Never thought nexus would ruin my life so badly, next month is my exam couldn't concentrate on study, logged on xda all the time.
[Nexus 4 General] mustyrash:
well like i said, if they dont one hundred and eleven percent say that im gonna get a tv by saturday, them im giving o2 the phone back. fine i dont get a tv, at least i get to keep an extra £120 in my pocket for the charging orb, a case that actually protects the device and screen protectors. i might even have some money left over for a nice meal. i already have an lg tv that i dont use, and i dont really watch tv in the first place unless its football or a really good tv show.

i was with o2 for about 3 years till october but its not worth going on contract with them. in december or january people like three with have this phone on the one plan for about £25 a month. the only reason why i think the phone costs so much at o2 is because of the tv, i wouldnt be surprised if in january the phone is on for £25-£30 a month on the exact same plan.

also, i dont wanna open the box and play with the phone because of this exact quote "a luxury once enjoyed becomes a necessity" :)
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
I know this is going to sound crazy but hear me out. Go and study for your exams! The excitement will wear out once you start rooting and wasting endless hours trying to mess around :D

Go and occupy yourself buddy.
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
So a lot of users in the US thread who did not receive a backorder email just got their shipping emails. Man this is CRUEL!
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Then again, they didn't receive BO emails..
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
Yup Google are prioritising. Man that pisses me off. No contact from them at all, tempted to ring back and ****ing erupt on the phone. And I am from Northern Ireland, when I start shouting people get concerned with my accent. Might be worth a try! :D
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
As I said a few pages back, we WILL NOT GET OUR DEVICES ANY TIME SOON.

They are prioritising the US orders due to thanksgiving. We'll be lucky to even get them in 3 weeks I bet...
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Haha :D
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Do it. You have nothing to lose.
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
Not that it's any consolation, but at least shipping will be waived for us :silly: And if they don't throw in a freebie, WE ATTACK
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
we are not alone folks

http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Google
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
Can't decide whether to get a second hand S3 for £280ish or try the nexus contract with cash back deal!

Think I'm going to try the cash back/ tv thing and if it fails just return and go for S3 :/
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
floating about gumtree for £265,its crap we have to go the 2nd hand route because google is a joke
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
I stayed awake to keep an eye on US orders and shipping and I see a pattern emerging.

Those that ordered but didn't get backorder emails are now getting their shipping confirmation emails.

Now as far as I know no one here reported getting emails, because Google prioritized the US because of Thanksgiving.

So ... my guess is next week when those who ordered in the UK and didn't get back order emails is when they will shipping confirmation emails, and the week after that is when those that are back ordered will get their shipping emails. That matches up with the 'up to 3 weeks" for backorders.

Hang tight guys.

Sent from my Xperia Play SlimBean
[Nexus 4 General] UberGinge:
It annoys me more that they have sent me a shipping confirmation and given a tracking number, only for me to check that number (as a customer reference) and see that it does not exist. I even tried cancelling my order but they won't let me do that as it's apparently been sent out.
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
The way I see this O2 free TV thing is they've contacted people saying they will receive the TV and haven't stated please refer to the T's & C's or stipulated anything in their DM's that say the delivery depends on anything. Therefore I believe those already replied to are getting a TV and if anything changes they'll feel the wrath of XDA members descending on their twitter account :p

I'm not fussed anyway as the TV was always a bonus as never thought about it before buying and only went for it after a reminder on here.
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
They have also mentioned multiple times, that the number might not work immediately. If they have a number, they got it from TNT.

Anyway, Limbo level 3 ftw with an order for 2 N4's!
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
Heading into the O2 store shortly to pick a contract Nexus 4 up. Could get the £50 cash back online but this way, I'm onl paying an extra £30 (sister is contributing £120 for TV) and this way I'll know whether a TV is on its way to me by today.
[Nexus 4 General] rickykemp:
Just got this in response to asking about the stock status in the UK. At least he isn't spouting the same lies as the rest of Customer Service at Google. I give it a C+ for effort:

Hi Ricky,

First of all, I want to apologize for the confusion and the delay in responding to your email. I'm sorry that your order was backordered. We are trying to fulfill all of the orders in a orderly and timely fashion. For everyone that gets put on backorder we will refund the shipping cost. The only guidance I can give on when you will receive your order is within 3 weeks of your order date. I know that this is probably not the answer you are looking for and I wish I could give you a more positive response. I hope you will be understanding and patient in this matter as we are trying hard to not make you wait the full 3 weeks. If you have any other questions please feel free to reply back to this email and I will do my best to further assist you.

Sincerely,

Johnney The Google Play Store
[Nexus 4 General] chandlerweb:
I see people have branched out from tech into telling the future. Whilst they may be educated guesses, they are still guesses. Unless you know the international stock allocations and shipping dates, I don't think it's worth speculating. All we know for sure is that uk back orders are due to be fulfilled within three weeks. No more, no less.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but can someone let me know how much google are charging for shipping [if purchased from Play Store] ?

TIA
[Nexus 4 General] znanev:
Shipping charges for Nexus 4 are £9.99.

Good luck with ordering one when the next wave comes ;)
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Thanx - I won't be ordering until the cash rolls in either on xmas day or boxing day :cowboy: so ''hopefully'' things may have calmed down by then :rolleyes: this will be my first Nexus so I don't mind the wait as I can use the time to get fully up to Nexus speed with the bootloader, fastboot etc etc :)

Can't wait !
[Nexus 4 General] iWannaBeAdored:
An online-chat O2 guy is saying their contract deals are online only? I'm sure I can pick up the £13.50 contract in store?

He was really pushing for a sale!
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
It's a trap! When you get instire they'll tell you they can't do online prices :rolleyes: