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[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I spoke to Smadger a few days ago and told him the situation as he was unaware. Obviously he has his phone now so it really needs someone else to step up and be a spokesman [be warned it will take a lot of time/effort to achieve similar results - Smadger actually got into trouble at work due to the time he spent on the campaign :good::laugh:] anyways when he was dealing with all of it he was put in touch or told to deal with another person as it wasn't Dans job.
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
Nobody should read the german topic. 6-7 weekers get updates to january 14th.
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Balls. Seriously?? Im cancelling if true.

EDIT: Update to 14th? I thought you meant 14 weeks lol. So what is going on there then?
[Nexus 4 General] ksengodon:
I too ordered on 4 Dec with 4-5 weeks shipping estimate. Other than the date change on play store order receipt to Jan 2, absolutely nothing. This is the latest reply (received on Jan 10) from Google customer service,

"Currently, I did receive report back from the shipping team. Order# is currently On Hold Qty, which means the item is on back order. The 4-5 week shipping estimate does not include weekends or holidays, so considering the weekends and the Christmas and New Years holiday, this order should be shipping out within 1-2 weeks." Just hoping that someday soon I'm going to be lucky.
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
Maybe the 6-7 "weekers" germans will get their phones before us (4-5 weekers). Is it fair google? :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
14 weeks?!
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
No... january 14th
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
According to previous xda members that should be a good sign.

The Nov. orders where dispatched shortly after they received that additional google order number!! I hope this is good news.

I can't believe how it only works on phone browsers though....I never saw that get mentioned previously.

Could be good news for us, I remember when the Nov orders came through, Zee Germans were getting there's a few days before hand...could be a week actually, don't remember.

Have you entered your order number in google support to find out what the expected delivery date is?

I've ordered on the 5th with 5-6weeks and the 6th week ends this Wednesday night.
[Nexus 4 General] 360nitrous:
This whole order issue boggles me as I ordered my nexus 4 on the 18th Dec and received it on the 23nd of Dec, I had an 5-6 week estimate too!
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Finally got on to my mobile wallet (couldnt get on all day thanks giffgaff grrrrr), and i too have a 2nd order number. Good news hopefully.
[Nexus 4 General] dannyling:
Dont think they want to sell them to uk only to u.s I've also been waiting since 5th dec was wondering when google will give some stock to the uk market you'd think they would email inform everyone of there individual situation , bad customer service I've had enough with no updates for my htc or samsung handsets i thought I'd sell them and buy a nexus 4 as they will treat us better
[Nexus 4 General] Tomdarkness:
Mine has shipped just now.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Ordered at 8:12 and had **** all.. pissed off a treat. Lol
[Nexus 4 General] mccabeross:
Just got mine also...

Order date: Nov 13, 2012 12:31:26 AM PST
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I don't. I was going to argue that it sounds logical, but let's be honest.. Google are FAR from logical, as we can tell from this terrible ordeal and lack of pre-orders. It's all speculation at the moment, sorry. :(

They won't be available for SIM-free purchase until they get more in stock. Most likely, 2-3 weeks from now. :eek:

£349 is what I was told in the Above Bar Street, Southampton store today. The main one in the West Quay shopping centre were useless and couldn't provide a price. I noticed they have 4(!!) in stock for contract sales though.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Anyone got a shipped email who ordered the bumper too?
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
I ordered the bumper.

Still no shipment email...
[Nexus 4 General] jordanadams86:
Mine has shipped too! What a relief, i'll never buy from the big G again though.
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Dangit, I want an email =(
[Nexus 4 General] SIDKIMA:
I ordered the 8gb at 8:20:34am GMT and I haven't received my shipment details :/ I guess they're shipping them out willy-nilly.
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Damn! Why did I purchase an over prices Bumper! Rats :)
[Nexus 4 General] lonespeaker:
Can someone who has just received the shipment email tell me what google wallet what says about their order at this time? ie, is it still showing as pending. thanks
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Dangit, I want a Nexus =(
[Nexus 4 General] Nexx:
8:19am, just a 16GB Nexus 4, no additions.
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
Thinking the same thing...

Guess it will pay off when rear glasses start to break.... ;)
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
I'll pop into CPW on Saturday and see what their deal is as have one on the other side of the main road outside my house. I don't mind paying a little more for the convenience of walking over the road and returning it for a replacement etc but won't pay over £350 as others have said. I also have a P4U in the same retail park but no doubt they're misinformed anyway so probably wasting my time going there lol. I just wanna play with one to see what it's like so hopefully they'll have a demo up by then and I'll then decide whether to wait till the Play Store has new stock.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Won't be entertained if it transpires that the Bumper is not yet available and they refuse to ship in separate consignments.
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
No email here...bugger!
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Lucky you-know-who :p

It's interesting watching all the drama from the side :)
[Nexus 4 General] :
8:12 me and still nothing... arrghh lol
[Nexus 4 General] Tomdarkness:
Shows up at completed in google wallet with "Your order has been shipped!" and as "Shipped" on google play.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
I get the feeling that some of our phones haven't even rolled off the production line. Google sold off all the stock they had for the launch and basically tricked us into placing orders when all we were doing was pre-ordering. I don't think they are stock piling any phones because if they had any stock at all people would/should be receiving them around their estimated delivery dates. Why else would CSR's start saying things like
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Ordered on the 18th? I thought they were out of stock by the 14th.

Tried to convince my local 3 and O2 to match their online / quidco deals but no dice. So frustrating, to top it off I found a deal for all you can eat data that is less than buying from Google and getting a giffgaff sim. Guess what, yeah out of stock!
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Dec 18th ?

The last placed orders were on Dec 13th - then the 'Out of Stock' sign went up.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
I ordered on the 8th, 6-7 weeks estimate. Updated to the 2nd of Jan like most people. When I go on play.google.com/store/account then click on the nexus 4 order, sign into wallet and click on details I too have another google order number. This is on my phone, it doesn't appear on PC. I will contact Google from the website and use the new order number, see what reply I get and post the results to you guys. Hope it is good news. I might be wrong. On Wallet there is the blue highlighted section. I have a Google Commerce LTD order then a Google Order. Is this is?
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Please do, I'm the same (8th, 6-7 weeks) except I didn't get a change to the 2nd Jan :(

Interested to see what they say.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Yeah I did a similar thing on Sat, even tho I had the money to buy at full cost [it felt like cheating and also I'd be kickin myself if they came in stock a week later] I went to CWH and O2 and offered them £350 cash - here's what CWH told me

"We can't sell them at anything but the labelled price as Google fixes the price at what we can sell them."

I don't know if he was giving me BS or what ? but I thought that they might go for it - £350 cash - most if not all customers get the expensive phones on Contract so I assumed it may have been a good sale but if they don't get bonus for individual sales then it makes no difference to them.

The O2 manager didn't even know what the Sim only price of the handset was so the offer didn't mean nothing to him. He just said

"the price is the price m8"

I then tried this other place that opened up in the town about 6/7 months ago called DIAL A PHONE. The guy didn't even know what a Nexus 4 was he had to google it [the irony] and then he said

"yeah we can do you one for £450 cash"

I told him TO DO ONE :D he asked why and I told him "they are £279 online from Google" he said

"you want to be careful who you buy phones from online" :laugh::laugh::laugh: I said "dude are you for real ? you trying to get me to pay you £450 by scaring me into buying online -- from Google -- they MAKE them !"

It was a father & son team - message is AVOID Dial a Phone !

What did I learn ? that most of the FOOLS working in these phone shops are clueless, smug d!cks :D
[Nexus 4 General] adamw:
I'm in exactly the same position. Ordered on the 8th, 6-7 weeks, date changed to 2nd and new order number appeared.

Probably none of that means anything, but here's hoping.
[Nexus 4 General] GhostMaster9:
Ordered onde 6 Dec. and no news since them, last week from the 5-6 weeks estimate.

Last Phone ordered from Google play store.
[Nexus 4 General] spookykidmt:
at this point i dont know what to do. an ebay seller offered me to sell me the N4 for ~$530, including shipping. now i m starting to consider buying the xperia z. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
I did it also! I sign in the Google wallet from my mobile and BOOM there is another order no. above the normal order number. I don't know what this number means though.This number is not appearing from the desktop site!
[Nexus 4 General] RomanosN:
I got a small number too in the mobile version of checkout.google.com

Google Order No.3707928431037xx :confused:

WTF!
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Its really weird. Not sure how they can have an order number on the mobile site and not the full one. Google need to sort themselves out.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Yes this is what I got! Still awaiting a response. Sometimes the CS take 2 days to reply to me. So annoying.
[Nexus 4 General] Gr00ber:
It's not some sort of tracking number?
[Nexus 4 General] Nova163:
Although I fully understand these reactions, when I take a step back it's seriously funny how we are desperate enough to overanalyse even changes in order number on the mobile version of wallet - which could signify anything -, just to keep hope up :D
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
Funny or...
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
sad....
[Nexus 4 General] RomanosN:
I am mostly upset because I am from Greece so the phone must first arrive in a relative's house in Oxfordshire and then 5 days to ship to me. In March i have to do my Army Service for nine months in which I can't take my Nexus 4 in.

So if it delay for more days I may cancel as I won't use it as much as I wanted to. I new from the beginning that I will have limited time with my Nexus 4 but I was OK with it. But with extra delays is just too much.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
I don't think the extra order means anything. I also have found it when I used my blackberry browser to navigate Google wallet. I'm sure it was always there but nobody noticed and now we are all trying to rationalise everything.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Got a reply. I guess it is nothing:

Hello Curtis,

Thank you for contacting Google Play. I can definitely understand wanting to find out the status of your order. I will do my best to assist you with your inquiry today.

I do show you placed your order on 12/8. Per your confirmation email, it states that your order will ship in 6-7 weeks from that date, which would mean your order will ship at the end of January.

To check the status of your order at any time, visit your Google Wallet account at https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions: and click 'View Order' next to your order.

Thanks,

Alisa

The Google Play Support Team

I will ask her if the other order number means anything and get back to you guys.
[Nexus 4 General] Pompi_HU:
OMG! This is some kind of evasion again. Last week I got this:

"Thank you for contacting Google Play about the status of your device. I do apologize for the wait. I could see how frustrating that could be. I will do everything I can to assist you.

The end of the 5 weeks would be Friday. If you do not receive a second email with a tracking confirmation by Friday please contact me."

So they exactly know when the estimated shipping period ends. For the 4-5 weekers it was last Friday, 11 January.
[Nexus 4 General] matt_lfc:
Been following this thread with interest for a few days - I ordered 6 December and queried it today. Received what I presume was an automated response that included the line "According to our records, your order should ship by the evening of 16-01-2013."

Re. the 'extra' order number, it appears on a screenshot from the Play store help pages so don't think there's much relevance to it in terms of the order being progressed: support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2506346
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
I'm affraid they just beguile us with stupid promises. It's maybe the 10th date they promise since december 15th. Now i think even ausies will get phones before us.
[Nexus 4 General] matt_lfc:
If the Aussies got theirs first that really would be a low point ;)
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
For those having messages from CSR saying working weeks, this is bull. Weeks means weeks, and go back to the original order email stating expected date.

I'm 9th December, and quoted 6-7 weeks, so I will start chasing from 23rd, kicking up a fuss. (just hope they don't start saying "yours is a back order and therefore, the above estimated date does not apply" - if they do, I'll probably cancel and wait for another phone).
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
Overpriced LG Nexus 4 now available with Virgin Mobile UK - http://pulse.me/s/hgCTY

Sent from a Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
500mb isnt much

I used 209mb checking tapatalk, not on Facebook but that's also a data killer.

It also depends if you are close to a WiFi hotspot.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
Google music is drinking data,i don't download loads from it but it's used a good 500mb without even trying. Very glad I switched to an unlimited plan, if I'd stayed with my old 1gb I'd have a huge bill coming this month
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
It isn't. Terrible outfit but it's available.

Do other things? Lol
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
500mb is for ladies who sit opposite you at work that don't even know what the Play Store is.

My current contract allows me 3 gigs (I've been holding back for the last week - once you start downloading Nightlies it soon adds up)

Sent from SGS [CM10.1] via XDA Tapatalk app.
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
Thankfully I'm on WiFi both at home and work :)
[Nexus 4 General] hx4700 user:
Worried about data limits?

When I got my nexus 4, and thankfully connected to WiFi, my new phone used 3.34 GB in the first week as I installed apps (and uninstalled some rubbish ones) and data. The amount of data is perhaps unusual - maps on my gps, and in open street map and ordnance survey maps in my outdoor walking navigation. Some apps with big data content. About 3MB mobile in the same timescale.

Since then in week two, 439MB WiFi and 3.3 MB mobile. For that week I have had background data restricted as a trial, and but it's not even denting the allowance.

Google currents is a surprise as I don't recall setting it up to do anything, indeed I can't recall opening it on the nexus 4. It has used 12MB!
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
This is just the top most data using apps - there is about another 5 shots altogether
[Nexus 4 General] Dav_prime:
Depends how much access to WiFi you have really. I only have 500 Meg but most months it is enough. I only tend to hammer my data when I am travelling. Even then I find a lot of free WiFi to limit the damage. For those times I need to use more (avoid WiFi charges at hotels) I just upgrade my data package for the month to cover it.
[Nexus 4 General] GretaLewd:
Utter bollocks. Google are just making it up in desperation, hoping some people will fall for it. A week is a week is a week.

I ordered mine on 5th Dec 5-6 weeks, automated google response says it should ship by 16th Jan = end of 6 NORMAL weeks. Correct.

Next they'll be saying only days containing the letter W count...or whatever :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
Well now I know why I avoid networks with limited data allowances
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Exactly. If they claimed you order will ship in 70 days, they could then claim they were only talking working days, as you would imagine anyway.

How can you give an estimate in weeks and then claim its different due to weekends not counting? Its a nonsense.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
I think in the next two weeks we should have our devices. Just my guess after seeing different threads.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
An 'normal' week should be the same as a working week, surely?
[Nexus 4 General] toori88:
I had a dream the phone was here and it was a 32gb model...damn it google, why are you doing this to us!
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Sure it wasent a iPhone lol

I can't wait either
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
I'd be keen to see your working out - I hope your right, but my opinion is that there's nothing consistent to go on.

From what I can tell, lots of people are getting in touch with the CSRs, and those whose estimates have not been reached are sometimes getting responses like "According to our records, you should receive your order by [date]" or "You should receive your record in [n] weeks". I'm pretty sure that these responses have nothing to do with stock - it's quite clear that the CSRs have no actual information in stock for different countries, and only have the individual customers order details to go on (ie. exactly the same details which we have). These CSR responses are merely a Google policy of effectively saying "You don't have any reason to complain yet" and crossing their fingers and hoping that the people responsible for fulfillment get it sorted in time.

The production numbers are hopeful, but I wouldn't put it past Google to have placed a large order for the UK which LG are only going to ship once it's all complete.
[Nexus 4 General] ghalalb:
I hope that there is stock in Play in that time frame as well! I'm still waiting to order (though I had an N4 from CPW but returned it due to faults)!

I am thinking I may just go and get an S3, there 2nd hand price is tumbling, you can get them from Gumtree for £250 in central London, but I just don't trust buying from Gumtree
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
If you see the production thread it says end out ? Which I thought it meant it was shipped ? Unless I'm confused

---------- Post added at 10:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 AM ----------

After reading the rumours about the next nexus, I think google may just increase the memory size on the nexus 4 like they did with the nexus 7 and might just overclock the processor to 1.7mhz

Anything else will just look dumb.

Nexus 5 after 3 months is weird.
[Nexus 4 General] ralph78:
There are some news about production:

http://phandroid.com/2013/01/14/lg-...oceeding-as-planned-nexus-5-rumors-unfounded/

It seems everything is going right.

Sent from my SGS2 using TT.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
You should stop obsessing over speed, that's a lot of speed testing you've been doing
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
You got a link to that mate?

Im not too fussed, i can cope with 16gb, can just overclock the processor myself, so not too bothered about that :)

It "should" ship by tomorrow evening! Buy not getting my hopes up...

Im sure previous shipments have gone out on Tuesday's, so fingers crossed anyway!

Edit: No worries was on the other link!
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
You may get a ship email tonight or tomorrow night, I saw a lot of UK devices being shipped out from LG on the 11th and 12th

January

, do you have the date changed to Jan ?
[Nexus 4 General] moon-unit:
Just ordered mine through O2 on contract, I have no patience lol
[Nexus 4 General] toori88:
You better have not made that up!!! I'm getting the tingles now! :)
[Nexus 4 General] enomis27:
fingers crossed for today evening/tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
What's the connection between 11th/12th December and the next two evenings?
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
I'm not sure there is one to be honest. The shipping has been erratic since day one. Apart from some of the 1-2 week people.
[Nexus 4 General] PepsiDude002:
I ordered 11th December and the date changed to Jan 2nd so I hope you're right because I've been borrowing a Galaxy S3 with a dodgy battery for a while now (the battery only lasts 5 hours max and rarely charges).

My wallet is ready! :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Everything is going right ? Did you not read the article [not that it makes ANY difference - its up to the usual standards of Phandroid :rolleyes:] LG are claiming that there is/has been no shortage of units being manufactured from their end, that Google/Dan was lying about "scarce and erratic" supply.

The LG official states production is proceeding “without a hitch” at their plant in Pyeongtaek and that there is no problem with supply.

WHAT ? FOR REAL ?

The article just goes further downhill from their as a round of rumours and guessing swings into action along the lines of ....

'So exactly who’s telling the truth? Well, it could be both of them. Sounds like LG is making exactly as many Nexus 4′s as they want to.'

So Phandroid are suggesting that LG are dictating to Google when and how many N4 they will supply - based on the next LG Optimus G2 being its priority.

I get that this IS their flagship device but LG would have had to factor in these things in advance and does not decide just how many N4 they will produce.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Guys I'm just guessing, after looking at the production thread it seems they may be sending Google a new batch in a few days.....phones are usually send two days after produced at LG. A few were produced on the 10th and 11th January.

There is no connection except a user in the us received his phone about two or three days after it was produced....

Sorry if im getting everyone's hopes up. That's message was just to a reply to the post
[Nexus 4 General] capt_carl:
I know there's been a lot of discussion about blame on this thread but for me the blame is always going to lay with Google for not ordering enough stock.

We know stores are getting stock. I've been following the OverclockersUK Nexus 4 thread as well and a chap on there claims to work in an o2 shop and says they are getting regular stock.

Just my thoughts but as much as this whole process infuriates me, the blame for me remains solely with Google.
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
Ah right - I think it was just the mention of December which confused us

---------- Post added at 01:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 PM ----------

I suspect that the issue is Google having ordered too few, and then realising that there predictions were a crazy underestimate, ordering a huge leap in production from LG, and when LG were not able to supply it immediately labelling the supplies as "scarce and erratic". So I agree with others that Google are at fault. After all, it's a bit rich for Google to be annoyed that they can't just snap their fingers and make LG send phones - that's exactly the situation that we're all in.

---------- Post added at 01:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ----------

This might also explain Dan's subsequent silence. If his comments about LG were not 100% spot-on, it could be that those above him recognised that his statement could backfire in terms of the Google-LG relationship, and he was ordered to keep his mouth shut in future.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
OMG i was meant to write January in the post

sorry it was meant to read....."LG on the 11th and 12th January"

sorry again