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[Nexus 4 General] Leo Davidson:
I am now phoning TNT to ask for an ETA on the ETA they promised me.

This process could not go any further up its own hole.
[Nexus 4 General] adamase:
I called them at 8 this morning because they'd put mine on the van despite me organising yesterday that I'd pick it up on the way to some meetings.

I'm still waiting for the support team to call me back, completely useless.
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
Hey guys, quick question. if I leave my Nexus 4 uncharged for 3 weeks, will the battery go flat, and will future battery life be affected? Was wondering if I should get my flatmate to unbox it and charge it every now and then till I get back
[Nexus 4 General] Stuartglossop:
Just turn it off and leave it. Charge it when your back
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
haha i shouldn't think so, it does not matter.
[Nexus 4 General] smallishnote:
Mine arrived just after 1pm and loving it so far. Such a step up from my HTC Desire.

Thanks to everyone that got onto Google about their shambles at selling this phone. I'm not going to order another product from them until I know that all of their mistakes have been rectified.

Btw, does anyone know how to turn off predictive text?
[Nexus 4 General] Leo Davidson:
TNT's main support said they were still waiting to hear back from the depot and couldn't nudge them to respond faster, so I looked up the depot's number and called them myself.

Amazingly (or setting myself up for yet another failure; we'll see) they were really helpful, contacted the driver, whon said he'll be here in 15-30 minutes, and they said they'd pass on the directions I gave and tell him to phone if there are any problems.

Been through too much to really get my hopes up, but fingers crossed.
[Nexus 4 General] darktheory:
how long to charge it out of the box?
[Nexus 4 General] ChrisHRocks:
Yeah just think how long some phones lay in a store at a shop probably way more than 3 weeks you'll be fine
[Nexus 4 General] Rozza C:
I put mine straight on charge as soon as I got it out of the box for about 6 - 7 hours.

Probably overkill, but I was sorting out my other phone and went out for a bit and about while I left it charging.
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
ok guys....i've just set up a "nextday" with ups!!!! I'm really excited. My phone is coming to me!!!!!

:D
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
Thanks guys. Now I'm just a little worried that I'll go back to find a faulty phone which I can't RMA as the 15-day window will have passed.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It'll already have a decent amount of charge in it to begin with. Just fire it straight up.
[Nexus 4 General] Grizzle34:
Still waiting on TNT delivering mine...... up and down at the window like a yoyo lol.:silly:
[Nexus 4 General] mjb1975:
Arrived! :D

Yeah, mine had about 75% charge out of the box.

Have just asked Vodafone to switch my old Sim to my new micro Sim.

Wonderful stuff......eventually.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Dear me. Not content with micromanaging the delivery in the UK now we get ringside seats for a trip across Europe :D
[Nexus 4 General] cigarillos:
Woo, just got mine. Trimmed down my sim card to a micro-sim and it worked a treat.

What a gorgeous phone. I wasn't expecting it to be this thin and light.

:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahha!!!! :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] yassar1290:
6-7 week :/

does anybody else have 6-7 week schedule?

my nexus 4 16gb is meant to ship by 30-01-2013.

I ordered on 14th december unfortunately very late

anyone else in the same sticky situation as me?
[Nexus 4 General] rbanaco:
Hey! I am in the same position as you. I ordered on the 11th of December and no more info about that ... they estimate for 7 weeks... lets hope it will be less...
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Same here ordered on 13 Dec, 6-7 weeks for me also!
[Nexus 4 General] Crundy:
Nadgers! I seem to have knackered my sim card by putting it through a cutter. Note that if you have an old sim like me then you may have to ask for a microsim rather than trying to cut it down (e.g. if it's like the one on the right in this picture then I think you're fine).

I didn't cut the contacts but the N4 isn't registering it :(
[Nexus 4 General] yassar1290:
Seeing as Dan Cobley said supplies from LG were 'erratic' meaning random maybe that means that they aint sure exactly when orders will be shipped so 7weeks is like the latest we'd get our orders?

a google cs messaged me the following

'You may receive your device in the beginning of the New Year like I said we are trying to get these devices out as soon as possible and they are sent out in the order they are received.'
[Nexus 4 General] Stuartglossop:
I have a 16gb one For sale if anyone wants one? Brand new arrived yesterday.
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
Ordered on the 6th Dec with 6-7 week - scheduled for delivery on 23-01-2013. I keep hoping that it's wrong and i'll get it tomorrow...!
[Nexus 4 General] rbanaco:
Well let's wait for January then we'll see... I just hope that they won't do a speedy batch! I prefer quality!
[Nexus 4 General] yassar1290:
I got rid of my galaxy note 2 because of the size I needed a smaller device for my work trousers and it's been like 2 months since I've had a smartphone missing jellybean

hoping my nexus 4 arrives early january
[Nexus 4 General] rbanaco:
I am totally interested as long as the price is not ebay price =P :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Leo Davidson:
It came! Mission Accomplished!

For anyone else stuck with TNT, try getting the number of the depot it's shipping out of (assuming things have gotten that far) and contact them directly. They seem to be far more helpful, and able to contact the driver if needed, whereas the main support number just puts things in a queue that never get looked at.

Best of luck to everyone still waiting, especially Deeco7 (you deserve more than a refund, mate; awful service from Google if you ordered back in November; it was bad enough not being able to order the phone for all that time, having ordered one and still not getting it after so long is beyond the pale).

Vahndroid84, I hope the forward on to Rome is without incident.

Hope everyone's phones don't break, too. I'm terrified of having to deal with Google ever again..
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
I seriously hope Google can prevent this from happening ever again. Since I'm hoping to buy a second generation Nexus 7 once it's released. :p
[Nexus 4 General] AndyBurns:
Wahey!

It's arrived, quality feels nice in the hand, quadcore runs like melted butter, though it's a damned slippery fish, already my N1 seems tiny in comparison, but the N4 feels like it needn't be quite as large as it is. I've managed to run the battery from 77% down to 7% in 2½ hours, so I suppose I'm going to be charging a lot more often - even after I stop playing with it and start using it normally.

I'm going to leave this thread alone for a bit, hope everyone gets theirs soon, thanks to smadger for contacting Dan, I'm not convinced it got the phones manufactured and into the UK any faster, but it brought some issues to Google's attention, and maybe it got C2K working round the clock when they might not have been - who knows?

:D:laugh::cool:
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
Congratulations on getting the phone, bro. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] capt_carl:
Ordered mine on the 5th at 19:30. I'm a 5-6 Weeker estimated date is around the 19th January... :(

Already sold my S2 to pay for it so I'm struggling along with my mates Decrepit Milestone..
[Nexus 4 General] AndyBurns:
Wow, you didn't waste much time flashing CM, I think I'll wait until a milestone release rather than nightlies ...
[Nexus 4 General] Grizzle34:
delivered, opened and wooooooow its stunning.
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
Huh ? What do you mean?

These nightly builds are quite stable actually. Good enough for a daily driver I'd say.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
I ordered on the 8th, had 6-7 weeks delivery estimate as well. I hope it isn't that long. If you get yours before mine, you can back me up when I complain ;p
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Parcelforce tracking has been on "Loaded to vehicle for delivery" since 8.40 AM. Should be here today, right?
[Nexus 4 General] ermacwins:
Picked up my 2 N4's from the depot after they refused to deliver as per googles instructions
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
CM is generally perfectly stable from the very first nightly on Nexus devices
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
I'll be going into town on the Saturday to check. If it is £299 for 16gb and unlocked I will cancel and get it. Even if it is locked I will get it unlocked. Better than waiting my quoted 6-7 weeks and it most likely arriving on 23rd of Jan. Good on Three! :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
Parcelforce? Are you in mainland UK? Most people's came with TNT
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Northern Ireland. I guess it isn't coming today.
[Nexus 4 General] Feroz19:
TNT Express deliver empty box!!

After anxiously waiting for my phone to get here today by TNT Express, the courier finally turned up. Handed me the package which I noticed was slightly open. He said that was normal and everything was there (how the hell did he know?). I told him I'm going to check before I sign. Checked the box and seals were broken. Opened the box and phone was missing!!! I obviously refused to sign.

Absolutely furious with TNT express and this whole situation. I won't have a replacement in time for Christmas now and not even sure if they will have stock to replace it in the first place. Utterly utterly disappointed. Google support will refer my case to a specialist which will take 24 to 48 hours.

I am going to make TNT Express pay for their incompetence. Those twats have a lot of compensating to do! Absolutely furious with them!

Any one else had their phones stolen?
[Nexus 4 General] bpahunt:
Ok so left a note for TNT to leave with a neighbour. "Sorry I can't" was written at the bottom of the note but no calling card was left.

Spoke to customer services to ask that it is delivered to my work address tomorrow. They advised me to do this online but only get the option to collect from the depot or redelivery to the same address. Anyone know what's going on?
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
Absolutely disgraceful. The driver probably nicked it. Google will give you a refund and then get the money back from TNT, so yeah TNT will pay.

I suspect my nov 13 shipment was stolen too. TNT initially told me the package had been opened by someone and hence sent for inspection. A few days later, they tell me that there'd been a mess-up with the shipping labels which resulted in the package being delivered to the wrong person. Go figure. I still think it was stolen.

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They ONLY deliver to the original address you provided Google with. They'll try delivering it to your home again tomorrow. Sucks, I know..
[Nexus 4 General] bigf00t:
Yup. Looks that way.

Mine says delivered at 13:09 with a signatory "Maas". Nobody here has received anything so looks like the drivers stolen it/mis-delivered it.

TNT refusing to look into it for me- apparently they're only allowed to deal with google. Google say they're referring it to a specialist but were quick to offer to block the phone and send out a refund/replacement (Didn't mention how long a replacement would take mind). I told them I'd like somebody to actually investigate it, and not let TNT get away with it!

TWATS!
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
It behooves me to inform you that the promise of a replacement device from Google is BOLLOCKS! I fell for it the first time and went on to find out that the only thing Google can do is cancel your order and issue a refund. I'm afraid you'll have to place a new order. Sorry mate. Happened to me the first time.
[Nexus 4 General] KidCold:
That sucks! Hope you didn't request to transfer your google account to that phone :/
[Nexus 4 General] LilDeamon:
Been monitoring this thread and the main for days now, wondering if anyone who ordered on the 5th of December has received any information or even their device by now? Hoping to get it before the new year but remain doubtful. :(

Order Date: 5 December 2012 15:36:03 UTC

Purchased from:

Google Commerce Ltd

Gordon House, Barrow Street

Dublin 4

Emailed Google and got an automated reply stating that "According to our records, your order should ship by the evening of January 16."
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Hope it comes tomorrow. Doubt it'll come today.

http://www.parcelforce.com/track-trace?page_type=parcel-tracking-details&parcel_number=EC457354222GB
[Nexus 4 General] bpahunt:
Great. Tnt advised me that Google will change the address. The joker at Google then said he'd ask Tnt to change the address without taking the new one down. I don't hold out much hope so think I'm going to be collecting from the depot tomorrow evening at this rate.
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus-Revolution:
Mine is still at the Belfast Central Depot. Do you think it would be possible for me to collect it from there?
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Basically nothing moves in logistics land between Dec 24 and Jan 2... So you have Bob Hope of that.
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
No idea, give them a call.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Or of its close by drop in (maybe with a box of chocs for the chap answering at the hatch)
[Nexus 4 General] roblorduk:
So my phone arrived even though Google told me they don't deliver to the Isle of Man and said they would refund me!
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
Can I please remind all members that selling of devices is forbidden in the forums as per the forum rules so please do not post with the intention of selling any more. I encourage anyone seeing this to please continue reporting these posts.

Thanks

AvRS
[Nexus 4 General] sav_uk:
I called Three earlier. No stores are selling the Nexus 4 on PAYG - that article is incorrect I'm afraid :(

I was gonna try and buy one from them too :(
[Nexus 4 General] AndyBurns:
There's some gits around!!

I suppose that was one advantage of the N7 box, no slipping that tablet out on the sly

They seem to have skipped that step, I didn't untick the option, but my phone wasn't connected to my google account.
[Nexus 4 General] izglory:
guys whats the courier service that google use? i came home and saw a Royal mail card stating i missed the parcel, did not order anything these few days, gonna collect it tomorrow, my order status is still pending according to google wallet. Im from birmingham.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Mainland UK they use TNT
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Same here ordered 16gb 7th December 6-7 weeks ship time,

I noticed on the 17th or 18th December it was showing in stock but was 5-6 week time frame

The it went out of stock a few days/hours after
[Nexus 4 General] zen123:
Cancelled my order last week but it still shows as pending & Google still trying to take payment, bunch of frigging amateurs should stick to search engines.
[Nexus 4 General] astephenson2005:
Not sure if this means much but my 4-5 week order which has been sat unchanged on the play store since ordered at Dec 4, 2012 5:30:01 PM GMT has just changed it's date to 20th, hopefully this means some sort of good progress.
[Nexus 4 General] nellisere:
Hope my 4 - 5 week order does that, I ordered before you but still says 4th.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
New members - new posts - nice! Good to see you you all here :)

I can't say for certain but by what has happened so far for the rest of us, I'd say that this is a good thing. If you haven't been following the threads then basically what appears to have happened is Google made some form of decision on how to process outstanding orders. I still don't know what the specifics of it were, but the vast majority of outstanding orders from November seemed to get processed first, then followed by people that had been told their estimates were 3-5 days and 1-2 weeks all lumped together. Once they started re-processing these orders, dates in Google Play changed. Then shortly after that we all saw shipping emails.

Now, I'M NOT SAYING YOUR ORDER IS GONNA GET SHIPPED SOON, but the fact that dates have changed indicates that they are possibly correcting things.

Hope that helps a little!
[Nexus 4 General] skilful:
My 1-2 week order updated to Pre-order on the 19th, along with a chunk of others at the same time. But while most who were updated then had a shipping email soon after, I didn't. So it seems that things are still happening in fits and starts. Or they have actually run out now. Or they are still making it up as they go along.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Have you given the CSRs a call about this?

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Oh, and what was your order time in Google Wallet?
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
Would like to say that my nexus 4 arrived safe and sound today around 2pm! Mine was updated to the 19th then shipped so if yours has been updated its likely to be moving as well unless they really have ran out :(. Best ring CSR!

I have had my shipping refund applied after replying to their email so its all good on my end now...loving the phone!if you don't have a high end phone then it is sure as hell worth the wait.
[Nexus 4 General] skilful:
I haven't had the chance to ring today - the last time I did I was on hold for ages and got no useful information really. I may tomorrow but my chance of delivery before Christmas is gone now really anyway. My order time was 5.21pm so quite late for a 1-2 weeker which made me think they could be doing them in order but ran out of stock.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
If you haven't much time, try sending them a quick email here.... http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.py?&contact_type=devices_shipping_status

They have definitely gotten better at giving out info, I asked a question this morning and got a straight answer back within an hour. That did lead on to another more in depth question from me at about 16:00 and I'm still waiting for that - but like I say that part wasn't a particularly straightforward one so I'd say fair enough.

Mention that you think your order should have been treated a as backorder, and at the very least had your shipping refunded for misleading info when you ordered. It should make them take notice :)
[Nexus 4 General] kieran-hinckley:
I missed one delivery attempt on Tuesday so I've rescheduled it to come tomorrow.

My diztronic case has arrived so it will go straight into that once it's out the box.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
what diztronic did you go for ? any chance of a link, i still need to order my case but confused as there are so many

thanks in advance
[Nexus 4 General] FLeite:
Sorry to hijack this comment, but I am wondering how can I update my information on your spreadsheet, since I got the Nexus 4 today. Ordered 4th, 17:07, 1,2 weeks, shipped on the 19th
[Nexus 4 General] sav_uk:
I know it's a lot to ask, but is it possible for whoever is communicating with Dan Cobley to ask him for a rough estimate of when the N4 might be available to order again?
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Great to hear you're seeing action!

I've already passed the info I collected on to a guy at Google, and to be honest I don't think updating the sheet I've got if you've already done it would be much help. But I would say it'd be a good idea to update some of the others so everybody else round here can see what's happening, like this one...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhVDKY5WqKkAdGFNLTdwbkZMWWdfQ19uamtqaHhCc3c#gid=0

There's another, global orientated one somewhere, I've just lost the link.

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I'd love to, seriously I would, but the small amount of communication with Dan I had was always brief and there was an understanding I wouldn't step too far.

Out of respect I'm not getting in touch with him any more, that was my decision and I'm asking you guys politely to do the same.

But, he's put me in touch with another guy at Google! He's asked for a similar level of respect in not mentioning who he is, or give out his details. But we have been emailing on a regular basis. I'm trying to give them as much useful info as I can, but it's still not like I have a hotline to someone who'll answer every question I have.

Also both he and I will be taking breaks over Christmas, but he has indicated he wants to talk more, which can only be a good thing.

Regarding the stock, I have no facts to give you, but observing the situation as a whole I'd say they're making sure that things are getting sorted before putting it back on sale again. I know that sucks, but it's better than having a repeat!

There's this site which you can take a look at - http://www.n4checker.com/ - and I'm sure news will spread fast about any new release dates, so basically sit tight, it will happen soon. :)
[Nexus 4 General] kieran-hinckley:
I ended up going for this one.

http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46_76&products_id=303
[Nexus 4 General] EdZ:
Arrived today after TNT cocking about a bit. "held in a secure place" means "It's back at the depot, call us to arrange redelivery", which would have been slightly helpful if they had left a delivery note, or the slightest mention that their definition of "held in a secure place" differs from that of everyone else (i.e. not "we left it behind a flowerpot that might be near your house").

Updated, unlocked, bricked, unbricked, updated again, and finally rooted. Apparently you can also make calls with it, but I've yet to have use for this function.
[Nexus 4 General] ermacwins:
Theres a few on Gumtree at decent prices
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
A few sealed box 16gb have gone for £310 on eBay today. So I'd have had one of them if I was still waiting. Pay attention to eBay instead of this bs thread. Everyone is selling the last batch lol.

My spare N4 only went for £335.

Sent from a Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Anybody else still having financial randomness going on?

PM me or nexus4cr@gmail.com
[Nexus 4 General] GhostMaster9:
What is wrong with the last batch?

Does anyone who ordered on 6th December get the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] skilful:
I sent a message to customer services about my 4th December 1-2 weeks order which was updated to pre-order on the 19th. I was told the reason I hadn't received it yet was that I only ordered it yesterday.

Are Windows phones any good?
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Only if Google **** up. There are still people ordering on 4th who haven't got theirs yet. If your shipping estimate said 1-2 weeks you are most likely to get it before Christmas but by no means certain. If it said 3-4/4-5/5-6/6-7 that's likely to be when it is.
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
I would personally stay far away from Windows phones. Not only is it a limited and restricted operating system, but there aren't that many apps for them and I don't like Metro neither. Again, just my two cents.
[Nexus 4 General] Keitaro:
After eBay + Paypal fees that's not much profit, if any, at all.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Nothing gets past you does it.

That was entirely my point. :banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] s4vva:
Got it

After receiving mine yesterday I just wanted to say thanks for those who contributed to this thread. Glad I never have to come back here again!