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[Nexus 4 General] Gandalf-LoJ:
Been following this thread for a while, ordered on the 5th December and like a lot of people the date changed to the 2nd January and this morning I've checked and I've got Shipping estimate: January 23, 2013

So it appears to be moving! Which is great as I'm sick of my Xperia S crashing all the time!
[Nexus 4 General] Pompi_HU:
Wow, my order status in Play changed too.

Shipping estimate: January 5, 2013

Great news :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I know its off topic guys but have you seen that Helicopter thats crashed in London - all over sky/bbc news :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Really? gonna check that shiz out
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
I think i win: Shipping estimate: December 19, 2012
[Nexus 4 General] Fysi:
Joint 1st place with me:
[Nexus 4 General] Pompi_HU:
Yepp :) It's nothing more than the original estimated date. Two weeks ago I got this 5 January 2013 date when I asked the support. So nothing changes in their database.
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
yeah :) We'll get our phone before x-mas. Hmm wait a minute... it's january 16th where is our phones? :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] variety:
Ordered December 7th (5-6 weeks). Shipping estimate: January 16, 2013

You guys and your Dec 19th is classic stuff, by the way. I have to say I am hopeful though. The shipping dates changing, the Germans getting a bunch of phones, the long time since the last uk-batch, all points to us getting our phones soon, imo. Lets hope they actually counted how many orders there were this time, ordered twice as many, and lg listened and complied. Even google can't enjoy losing 10 pounds of shipping costs on every bloody phone they sell....
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
A new answer from support: Thank you for contacting Google. It is my pleasure to assist you today. It appears that your device is being shipped to the UK. I apologize for any delay. What it means? No changes in wallet, no shipping mail, just this mail...
[Nexus 4 General] toori88:
As more than 6 weeks will have passed since I/We ordered, surely we can get a refund on shipping?
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Nexus 4 is once again shipping to Canadians and we are still waiting. http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/01/15/nexus-4-is-once-again-shipping-to-canadians-still-sold-out-online/

Joke of the day: carphone warehouse raised the price of nexus 4 from £389.99 to £449.95!
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
So when was the last batch shipped out? I swear we havnt had any ship this year....
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
As I said, ausies will get theirs before us.
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
That is seriously OT. But better than reading depressing news about your phone all day!
[Nexus 4 General] CalumL:
Well, mine has only updated the date to show the same as I have already been advised, still only £1 pre-authorised from my card. I'm guessing that this happens automatically when an update is made as there doesn't seem to be any other reason for it.
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Order from 5th December changed to shipping date 16th January (believe it when i see it)

Order from 6th December changed to shipping date 23rd January
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
Hmmm... this confirms my assertion earlier that Google's estimations are out of order. I ordered the 16Gb a day earlier and was given 6-7 weeks. It's now showing an estimated shipping date of 30th. Even given that, I have no truck with Google's claim that 7 weeks from 9th December is the 30th.
[Nexus 4 General] daveshorty:
About this new 'estimated shipping date' part on the order summary... have 5th December folks been getting theirs changed from 16th to the week after? I just checked mine and it says 16th. Not sure what to make of it.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Those greedy thieving b@st@rds :mad:

Like they weren't raking it in at prev price.

Not to mention that they claimed to me that they had nothing to do with the price - because google 'set' it !
[Nexus 4 General] kac.:
Hmmm...

Second order number has disappeared.

I think it's something to do with the delayed Mayan apocalypse...
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Mine is still there, on the mobile wallet site of course.
[Nexus 4 General] CalumL:
Still got my second order number, but as it was before it's only visible on a mobile device.
[Nexus 4 General] Popple3:
Oh Google... Considering cancelling and buying an iPhone 5 at this point...
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
Do that :). Somebody will be happy when get your phone before his shipping estimate
[Nexus 4 General] darkhorse10:
I think it is the Google's therapy for all the people on this forum to make some change on the order page, which doesn't make any sense. I got my wallet updated with shipping estimate to 23rd Jan, which was reiterated in every automated response from Google. It didn't make any sense when the date changed from date ordered to 2nd January. It would have been much better if Google has sent an email stating "Thanks for waiting blah blah blah, this is where you order progress is at the moment". Need to see what's the next update from google.

BTW, haven't seen anyone who received the device who are due today... Anyone???
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
That would have required Google to know where our order progress is at the moment.
[Nexus 4 General] darkhorse10:
Ofcourse. If that reply was on FB, I would have LIKED it :)
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
I think the same. When germans got their shipping mails, a lot of angry people wrote letters to the support, so they have to do something. I can't be optimistic with google play UK especially with this shipping story. Lucky germans...
[Nexus 4 General] GretaLewd:
Well, here's my (madly optimistic) take on it : Goolge have received a batch of phones which they can now ship. So they've been able to update the order status in Play to the next step - to show the (original) shipping estimate dates.

So whether it's 5th, 16th, 23rd Jan etc. they are about to ship.....I hope!

Ordered 5th Dec, Estimated Shipping (updated in Play overnight) 16th Jan
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
My pessimistic take on it is that they've done nothing now for weeks, and need to be seen to be doing something; so why not change the Play store to show some information which we already know anyway
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
Or they use a special system, which calendar's not contains december and january. Maybe they've updated the system yesterday and now they are surprised how many user waiting for the phone, so call LG to produce more. No worry, after 3 months we will get our nexus 4.

Can we exchange employees between branches of google? I want those germans. For every german employees we should offer two.
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
This ^^
[Nexus 4 General] dodgydave100:
My Play Store order has also changed to the 19th.....even though i cancelled my order way back in mid-December.
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
:good: Good luck to you!
[Nexus 4 General] ivarth:
Well, my order has changed...

In the Play Store it used to say Pre-order/Pending something...Now it has changed to Shipping estimate: "January 30, 2013" This just changed today I think..

I originally ordered on December 10th, got the date change on January 2nd, and now this....
[Nexus 4 General] shahin67:
Delivery estimate and shipping estimate

I just noticed something. Since yesterday night my order status had changed to "Delivery Estimate 16 January" but now it has changed to "Shipping Estimate 16 January". Have a look at my screen shots.

There seems to be someone behind these changes, it cannot be an automated process!
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
Haha someone ballsed up. Looks like every day counts.
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
That will be Google covering their asses, if the shipping estimate is today, they can then blame TNT for a late delivery....

Otherwise they would be getting hounded tonight when we dont receive our phones.

Heres hoping for a 5pm shipping mail surge...
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Every day a different surprise waiting for us in the infamous Google play store except from the shipping of the Nexus 4 of course!
[Nexus 4 General] E-nr:
Ordered Dec 4th, got 4-5 weeks now saying Jan 5th. Excitement still pending.

For what it's worth, support seems to be promising waived shipping charges if you hit em up, and I also got a little tidbit about LG having a "manufacturing stall", whatever that means.
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
Wonder if there is a shortage of handsets? CPW have increased the SIM-free cost by £50...

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/LG_NEXUS_4/HANDSET
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I'm gonna phone Google tomorrow evening and find out if they have any updates on stock and whether or not they will actually be getting more in on Friday. I doubt they'll tell me the truth, but seen as it's an 0800 number I won't give up until I have a proper answer.
[Nexus 4 General] zibby64:
Makes sense except the bumper is the only thing in stock on the store :p
[Nexus 4 General] phil001:
same here 8.12 and nothing
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Looks like I'm going to be unlucky. Complete and Pending still.
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
10:56 PM here in germany. no e-mail no nothing :(
[Nexus 4 General] lonespeaker:
Thanks for that. I can check that instead, in case email's are "delayed" again :)

/end wishful thinking
[Nexus 4 General] aled99:
and here... (16gb model)
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
Not sure its worth it, if you ring three times I'm sure you'll get three different answers.
[Nexus 4 General] sungrad:
Those who are getting shipment emails ordered their phones late.

These phones are likely those that early buyers accidently double ordered, then cancelled.

If the phones are assigned to buyers in serial number order, then despatched the same way, then that explains why those ordering late (the first phones subsequently released and resold) are getting theirs first.

That's my theory anyway. I ordered at 0815 and have heard bot all from the big G so far, so I'd like to think there is some order to their madness.
[Nexus 4 General] jofullalove:
I ordered at 8:45, and I have no shipping details. Seems they are going completely randomly.
[Nexus 4 General] evie12604:
8.27 and nothing yet
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Well, I ordered at 11:20 or so I think and nothing yet. I did try to order at 8:12 or so, for 40 minutes, but it just wouldn't go through. So I was fairly lucky as far as that's concerned... the shipping, not so much.
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
That was exactly my thoughts yesterday. When I made my last phone call at about 10pm they said that people were still getting through every few hours so to try in 2 hours and understand my frustration lol I then asked if she had any idea about stock in the UK and she said she could check while I'm on the phone if I'd like to which I obviously said yes. After about 30 seconds she said it was definitely out of stock but to keep checking back as things could change. Before ending she asked me to take a survey about their support which I refused :mad: haha

Each of the 3 calls got me the same clueless answer that no one knows when it'll be available again and to just keep checking regularly for it to be made available again.

Thanks for staying dedicated to the cause though as you've helped a lot of us out here and I stopped following the other orders thread as only care about what's happening here :highfive::good:

Anyway I've skived enough and have forums to moderate :p
[Nexus 4 General] Nexx:
Which is ridiculous. If someone ordered before me, they should receive their phone before me, end of. First-come-first-serve and all that.
[Nexus 4 General] jordanadams86:
Mine has been shipped but when i click on the tracking link i go to the TNT website and it said my item has been delivered on the 26/10/2012 and was signed at Costas
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
I think the time is PST on those emails so not sure that applies?
[Nexus 4 General] Tomdarkness:
Yeah not sure what is up with the tracking numbers. My tracking number is for a consignment delivered on 1/11/2012 at Southport - no where near where I live.
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Don't worry, they reuse consignment numbers - it'll change tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
If they haven't dispatched by tomorrow, maybe you can complain. Otherwise, stop acting like spoilt brats and get a life.

www.eharmony.com

^^^
[Nexus 4 General] jofullalove:
Sorry got shipping email, 30 seconds ago. Whoop whoop!
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Think LG denied this
[Nexus 4 General] smileyanz:
Lg have come out and said there hasn't been any shortage of phones. So who's been telling porkies!!
[Nexus 4 General] chrisgtl:
Hope you guys get lucky soon!!

Wonder how many years this has taken off your lives...........

........well Dr. I was smoking about 10 a day before Christmas but since waiting for my Nexus 4 I'm up to 10 packets a day...................
[Nexus 4 General] @127.0.0.1:
My 14th Dec order which changed to Pre-order 2nd Jan is now showing estimated delivery 30th Jan
[Nexus 4 General] sebbo90:
Mine says delivery estimate 5th January as well. Interesting, let's give it a couple of hours and see if anyone gets a shipping email :)
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
I honestly dont believe anyone is going to get a shipping email today. If it happens I'll eat my Nexus 4 :p
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Yeah ill be amazed if it ships tonight
[Nexus 4 General] johhn:
mine is still showing '	Shipping estimate: January 16, 2013 ' and google wallet has been showing pending since day 1.

really doubt anything would happen. will probably ring them up tomorrow to see what excuse they will make.
[Nexus 4 General] hhd7247:
ordered on 4th, date changed on 2nd Jan, now is estimated delivery 5th Jan
[Nexus 4 General] jayjay2244:
Ordered on the 9th mine in is now estimated the 23rd
[Nexus 4 General] dafadau:
Just cancelled mine - I can wait until the next gen are released. Good luck all who're waiting!
[Nexus 4 General] dodgydave100:
As someone pointed out earlier i think Google has simply replaced the "pre-ordered" with the shipping estimate based on their original shipping estimate. Which is why mine being a 1-2 week order has the date 19th december (despite me cancelling before that). I don't think we can read too much into today's changes. Just my opinion on it.
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Cancelling mine tomorrow if it isnt sent tonight. Turning in to a piss take this.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
I agree, however I'm not going to cancel. I hate to give up on something I've waited 6 weeks for and wasted God knows how many hours online for. The painful aspect is that if Google came out and said "sorry guys but we are having issues and promise you will get your phones in a week or two" I wouldn't mind as much and get on with my life. Not knowing anything at all is just ridiculous
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
I agree, if people who have cancelled their order have got this message it must be google covering themselves.
[Nexus 4 General] daveshorty:
Lordy, I want the job of one of these 'specialists' our details are getting forwarded to. Sounds like you don't have to do a thing all day! Although there is always the risk that you won't actually exist. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
Well its a disaster, that's all I can say,

Google really messed up bad

Only problem is that it hasent hurt them,

no drop in share price or media fiasco like Applegate or cut in production on iPhone screen.... all the media outlets are praising the nexus but also saying its OOS.....

Only users are saying I wouldn't buy from google play, but i think high spec devices at such low prices people would buy them.
[Nexus 4 General] CobalticBlue:
"shipping estimate" has changed to "delivery estimate". Mean anything? ...Doubt it.

---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 PM ----------

No pending credit change so I guess not.

Don't be evil!?? let's start with not being incompetent.
[Nexus 4 General] rinbaubau:
I'm in the same your situation:

Nexus 4 (16GB) -

10th December - Ordered with 5-6 week delivery

I don' t know the shipping estimate date because a friend of mine from London ordered it for me. I' m from Italy and here we haven' t Playstore for devices, only for apps, movies, music etc. In Germany all people are getting their Nexus 4 in these days.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
See this what I don't get, I ordered same device 3 days before and got 6-7 week delivery........the times are meant to increase not decrease Google! Bloody Clowns!
[Nexus 4 General] teox_:
I'm from Italy too :D

Do you follow the thread "in attesa di LG nexus 4" in telefonino.net?
[Nexus 4 General] ilcose:
I'm from Italy too...ordered the 7th of december with 6-7 weeks and updated today on play store page with an estimate shipping time the 23th of Jenuary.

I'm following the 3d of Androidiani forum "Dove Acquistare Nexus 4".
[Nexus 4 General] rinbaubau:
Of course!!! Every day!!! I' m DrakeNathan there!!! :good:

Hai cisto che hanno le date di spedizione ad alcuni qui del PS UK? Tu come sei messo? Io non lo so perchè non mi va di stressare il mio amico a guardarci. Dilà come ti chiami?

---------- Post added at 11:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:46 PM ----------

Ovviamente sono anche su Androidiani, dove purtroppo in quel treahad si parla solo di saturn e spedizioni :(, li mi chiamo come qui. Anche tu di là stesso nome? Cmq credo che anch'io avrò spedizione al 23 gennaio a questo punto, ho fatto i calcolo delle settimane e a tutti coincide con l' ultima, Google non ci vuole rimettere le 10 euro di spedizione per ognuno, moltiplicate per milgliaia di utenti sono parecchi soldini.

P.S Sorry to moderators of xda for this post in Italian language, this will be the only one :good:
[Nexus 4 General] ilcose:
No the real problem of that forum is that everyone continue to update the percentage of the shipping status in every single post and reading the useful informations become difficult in the middle of that off topics.

In any case i don't belive so much in the proomised shipping date, a lot of orders placed before mine were not already been shipped....

I have also an open order from saturn.de + mailboxde and from STEG in switzerland (posticipated to 28/1/2013). I think i will cancel the last order because Steg is taking too much time (promised for the 11/1 at the beginning!)

Ti ho risp in inglese cosi anche gli altri capiscono XD
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Shipping mail anyone? Preparing for my phone call to Google tomorrow to setup a shipping refund..

Dont really give a flying f*ck about the money, just want to make a point.
[Nexus 4 General] CobalticBlue:
Anyone else's status change from a shipping estimate to a delivery estimate? Is it just another re phrasing of "we don't know"?

Nexus 4 - Ordered 6th Dec 5-6 Weeker

Don't be evil? let's start with not being incompetent.
[Nexus 4 General] blizard80:
mine says:
[Nexus 4 General] CobalticBlue:
I have

Delivery estimate 16 January 2013

Nexus 4 - Ordered 6th Dec 5-6 Weeker

Don't be evil? let's start with not being incompetent.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
17th of January now. Another week of so called "shipping estimates". They honestly should just come clean
[Nexus 4 General] rinbaubau:
I see, emails are automatic from the system.
[Nexus 4 General] grained:
yep, just sent an e-mail and instantly got automated response saying that my device is estimated to ship on the 16th well... no sh*t sherlock -.-
[Nexus 4 General] RomanosN:
I am trying all day to find an answer in the question "Why google is screwing with us?"

I even set up a Quora question but without any good answers, it was just one, http://www.quora.com/Google/What-ca...ly-out-of-stock?__snids__=87359701&__nsrc__=1

Can someone answer me the question? Really I can't understand. We have Google

on the one side which is the Giant of the Web and a big player in mobile OSes

and LG which is a big manufacturer. What the f**k can go wrong?
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
Demand » supply.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
Got an email from Google!!! Turns out they want me to fill in yet another survey.....:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Sorry guys, but all these conspiracy theories are getting even on my nerves now. Just be patient and see what happens over next few days.

Is there anybody who has NOT had their status in Play change to Shipment or Delivery?
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
Friend of a friend ordered on 4th I believe got it the next day!! 8gb tho
[Nexus 4 General] A.davis1:
Mine changes from shipping estimate to delivery estimate if I change the language box at the bottom of the page from USA to UK
[Nexus 4 General] capt_carl:
Yeah just to confirm mine says "Shipping Estimate" but If I scroll down to the bottom and change language to UK it changes to Delivery Estimate..

Guess I'll call Google today then, anyone got the phone number?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
That's classic - does this mean then that when Google quoted our orders as "Ships in m-n weeks", we should read that as "Delivered in m-n weeks"? Not that it's been true, but it gives us even more of an axe to grind
[Nexus 4 General] blizard80:
never expected such a service from Google!
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
I'm in the same boat. I ordered on the 9th with 6-7 weeks, and now have a shipping/delivery estimate of January 30th. Those who ordered on 10th got a 5-6 week estimate, now showing as January 23rd.

Hopefully this logic is only being used to display these incorrect dates, and Google do actually have a list of orders in the order in which they were placed. Past experience would suggest maybe not, though.
[Nexus 4 General] poopenhertz:
I see "Delivery Estimate" on my mobile but "Shipping Estimate" on my laptop with the same date on both. I don't think it means anything tho as it's the same I get it the automated reply when I send an email to them.

I ordered on the 10th December and got a 5-6 week estimate. Due next week on the 23rd.
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
As mentioned above, it's a language thing - when it's set to US English it displays "shipping", when it's UK English it's "delivery". I think you're spot on that it doesn't mean anything though.

Just means that if I ever bother to make contact with support again I won't take any nonsense about adding an extra two days for delivery onto what they quoted. No doubt they'll have no clue what I'm on about until I explain to them how to change the language setting.
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
I think delevery and shipping are the same thing its just US/UK terminolgy (but I guess both are still estimates ;))

Some more concrete news perhaps is that rather that show - 'Stock available soon' the UK site buymobilephones.net is now stating - Availability: Stock due on 24/01/2013 for the Nexus 4.

Hopefully this will also translate to a shipment to the Play Store around the same date too, as LG delivers out to more UK retailers. Any update on the manufacture list to support this? (I know some UK stock was supposed to be on there from around the 11th).

Oh yeah, and anyone got a Virgin unlimited data sim? Hows that compared to giffgaff and their 'outages'
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
Well, I would say that shipping is leaving the vendor, whilst delivery is arriving on my doorstep.

As I said earlier, Google's talk of estimates only occurred after orders had been placed. The information given before ordering was "Ships in [m]-[n] weeks"
[Nexus 4 General] poopenhertz:
I've been on the Virgin network for about 5 years now and I've never had a problem with them. I can't recall having any data or network connection issues . I've just switched to the £12 a month unlimited data SIM only plan for when I get my Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
It's just how you interpret it. In the US 'shipping' means being delivered.

When TNT say it is out for 'delivery' it means it is on the way to you, just like shipping means... it is on the way to you?

Either way, they are all estimeates so really mean 'might get there, might not' :)
[Nexus 4 General] daveshorty:
anyone called 'em yet?
[Nexus 4 General] blizard80:
I sent them a lot of emails.

No answer in the last 5 days!