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[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Been waiting since November 18...

Nexus MAXX
[Nexus 4 General] chandlerweb:
Nope. Been writing since 14th
[Nexus 4 General] luke_c94:
Got my bumper friday and the phone thursday.
[Nexus 4 General] SreePillai:
can anyone confirm if this supports DC-HSPA 42mbps pls.
[Nexus 4 General] pkrboo:
Same here
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Yeah. If you are in Canada.

Sent from my Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
Canada is where it supports 4g, all be it unofficially. It does support dchspa worldwide, whether your network does is another matter though
[Nexus 4 General] TonyLeMesmer:
Yes, on 3 and EE I believe.
[Nexus 4 General] SreePillai:
I think thats 4G, i wanted to know if it supports the 42mbps HSPA+ thats being rolled out by 3, i know my one x doesn't
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Yeah it does. Not in my area yet but even so I'm seeing regular 6-8mb where before it was generally about 2-3. Three are the in the process of rolling it out. Not sure about other providers.
[Nexus 4 General] knowlesy:
your thinking LTE band 4 sir ......

The telco known as "Three" do supply this magical tomfoolery known as DC-HSDPA source http://blog.three.co.uk/2012/02/29/leading-edge-3g-service/

see http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting for the general lowdown

and http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Coverage if DC-HSDPA is in your area....sadly not in mine - durham area
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
O2 are also rolling it out and have been apparently since May or thereabouts. Just by doing a quick Google apparently Vodafone are also rolling it out so I'm guessing all the major operators are but it seems to be slow at reaching most places. The O2 coverage map is rubbish and says it should be in my area but the colours representing the different 3G services don't even display when I try to check, it just says good for all when I rollover the place marker.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Apparently. O2 is good with 2G but very poor with 3G. 3UK is crap indoors, and my battery life feels it, it is very good outdoors though and has great coverage, just that it has problems getting through the walls. Vodafone is okish on both. Best I've seen so far is Orange (wife's phone), even at 1-2 bars pulling 4mb. Speeds on average beat 3UK, very often around 13mb. Hardly ever falls back to 2G. I assume T-Mo is going to be the same. I'm looking for the best deal on Orange/T-Mobile atm.
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
This is to all of you on 3 and people that manage speeds over 4mbit.

When you download an app from Google play what is you speed of download? (By how much it refreshes every 2seconds)

I've noticed that even when I'm getting about 15mbit all apps are downloading at 200kb every 2s and not even 1mb per 2s
[Nexus 4 General] rogueblade:
I'm on T-Mo living in South West London and work in Central/East London, and absolutely hate it. The Waterloo region is so dam bad it makes me want to shoot people
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Really? Well, it's good in West West London.
[Nexus 4 General] :
On my Nexus 4 which is on Vodafone UK network, I am getting 10mb down and 4mb up. This is in Derby,I get HSPA+ everywhere round Derby even indoors.
[Nexus 4 General] SreePillai:
I've seen my mates get up to 16mbps down & 9 up in Manchester.
[Nexus 4 General] arj154:
anyone reckon they'll have the second wave some time next week? (maybe even tomorrow?) It would be great if they actually did that...
[Nexus 4 General] Bobbyballbags:
Yeah I've noticed something similar. Was getting 22mb (still blown away by that!) At work the other day but my play store downloads were only abbot 2-300kb/sec. On 3 UK.
[Nexus 4 General] knowlesy:
according to the thread "nexus 4 round 2" its looking like tomorrow ? which may co-inside with the majority of people getting them this - last week / finding out when they are getting them ?

source

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2000591
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
I hope so. No one really knows. The German email to a store might be an indicator of when Europe is going to get stock, but who knows.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Anyone have any news or rumours about wen gplay will be back in stock? Did not manage to buy one on release day.

Also what's the chances of getting one for Xmas?

Cheers
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
I'd like to get my order from the 13th first though ;)
[Nexus 4 General] isentropy:
Me too. Four times it's been escalated to a specialist. Four times there's been no further correspondence.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
This is the third week, right? If I don't receive it by the end of the week, I will...
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
That store says stock is due on the 10th. Maybe they changed it and the OP hasn't noticed?
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
Hello :) nice to see someone from the same town...

---------- Post added at 02:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:13 AM ----------

So it not one off issue than... I think 3 are blocking some ports... Web is fan but downloading from play store is rubbish. Need to try other files as well tho...
[Nexus 4 General] knowlesy:
I didn't notice this my self :( whoops
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
They've often randomly block stuff on the three.co.uk APN but the 3internet one is normally OK. I think the porn filter gets overloaded/blocks the wrong stuff sometimes.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
3 have started the roll out in some places.

Nexus MAXX
[Nexus 4 General] Ra1stlin:
I had enough and bought one from O2 (PAYG) last one they had in store .Now i can stop checking that bloody Play Store every one hour or so .Very disappointed with how google handled it at the launch day .I had it in my basket for 20 minutes with constant errors ,tried 3 different browsers with no luck.Device itself very nice and ... that speed ,its flying .Now time to sell old Galaxy S2 .If it will show up today on play store well thats bad luck .
[Nexus 4 General] kitecarl:
If by chance the rumours are true and we can order from the play store today does anyone know if you can buy devices from the Android view of the play store? I'll be at work and would like to use my phone to order, not my work computer. Many thanks
[Nexus 4 General] jtc42:
I don't think so, but if you load it up in Chrome (after removing the default behavior for the Play Store app) it seems to work.
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
Date in my play store account has changed to today's date, still pending on both items despite having the bumper.
[Nexus 4 General] FLeite:
Can anyone please tell me how much is the shipping cost of a Nexus 4 order?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
£10
[Nexus 4 General] markdavey:
That UK Retailer has moved their date twice. It now shows the 10/12/2012. They have no clue just like the rest of us...
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
If all things were normal, I'd say yes - for example, using DroidVPN app on my phone I was able to have a US ip adress and visit the US play store and start the order process for the 16gb Nexus 4 ( Got as far as the part that asked me to select shipping address as it would not let me use my UK address)

But with the chaos that goes on when they reopen these orders I would say you need to have the reliability and speed of a desktop browser

else you might struggle....
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
Just off the phone they expect my 13/11 order to ship maybe today or tomorrow, "you will have it by the end of the week". I'm still yet to be convinced by their answers.
[Nexus 4 General] badgerdeluxe:
beat this disaster!

I managed to order on on launch (13th Nov), it was for my wifes birthday on the 16th. A few days later got the back order email like so many others.

OK annoying, but not the end of the world. 3 Days ago (30th Nov) the nexus 4 arrived, no shipping email... it just arrived. I wrapped the box up and gave it to my wife...she opened it...empty box! Someone had taken everything in the box in transit or at the warehouse or whatever. They then put the empty box back in the envelope and it was delivered!

Waiting to hear from google... still no phone!

I thought it was hard getting hold of a nexus 7 at launch! This is even tougher!
[Nexus 4 General] sidhaarthm:
Holy smokes! I think this one tops them all... can't imagine your wife's reaction.

Never heard of such a case before. Good luck with Google! I am still waiting for them to restock the Play Store for us unfortunate lot who couldn't order on 13 Nov.
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
Wow that's really bad. I hope Google and TNT don't give you too much hassle.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Wow. I feel very sorry for you guys. Hope you get one alright. :(

Hope Google will just send you another one, otherwise proving anything will be a nightmare.
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Well Google will have the IMEI of this handset and wore case scenario, if Google or Courier won't sort it then maybe report it to police as theft with IMEI number so police will be able to track the handset via networks ?

But hopefully Google will sort this for you, having waited so long.
[Nexus 4 General] ermacwins:
I'm pretty sure these retailers wont know. I would say google will make an announcement of round 2 stock for UK and other countries just like they did for the US
[Nexus 4 General] Carnoustie:
I can't honestly see Google Store suddenly, out the blue, changing / updating to available to order

However would people prefer a warning? ie for instance 08:00am on the 4th December hence equalling previous panic stations...

Or would you rather it just 'become available' without notice and hope your in the right place at right time? (In theory allowing a greater time opportunity to order)
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
That's a very good deal - My 16GB phone direct from Google with a SIM only contract from Vodafone at £10.50 a month equals a cost of £22 a month over 24 months. Though the Carphonewarehouse page doesnt say if its a 8GB or 16GB version.

If it is a 16GB version, I'd be looking into getting that one if I had managed to already get a phone. as it works out as an extra £96 pounds over contact life.
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
Maybe im missing something but that doesnt sound like a good deal... the minutes and texts for me is fine but the data of 750mb is terrible for such a phone! Go to virgin without even haggling on price and you get 250mins ulimited text 3gb data for £12 (was offered for £8 when i rang up) and you arent locked in a contract :).

Buy the phone from Carphonewarehouse for £390 + £12 for 24 months = £678 £28.25 p/m that is alot better really£2.25 more for much more data but thats just me... The main advantage for me buying seperate is that i currently have 6 months on my Orange contract so doing it as an upgrade so will keep my tarrif :). Suppose if you dont have the money for upfront its not bad!
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Ha ha, I've only got 500mb of data - that's fine for me as my phone automatically connects to the WIFI at home and work - so I barely even use that amount.
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
I am missing something then! Wifi on my O2x kills the battery atm and lags it out a bit :(, do use it at uni where it is super fast so that limits my data usage however when I am out and about i seem to just end up downloading a fair bit :P, I tend to use 1.5GB unless I get a solid wifi connection ( at home it struggles badly, always dropping).

But yeah suppose the flipside to that is that the contract can be ok for others :). I just want play store to get back in stock :(.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
I've left in tact where your problem lies :D

I find my nexus much faster and more stable on WiFi than my o2x was. I presume your o2x is running cm10 though as it's a known issue that WiFi on there drinks battery far faster than it should, I know since flashing it I've noticed a huge reduction in battery life with WiFi on even if it's just asleep on the side
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
I pretty much HAVE to wait to get it from Google -

As I work for Virgin Media I can get a sim-only deal for 150 minutes( I hardly use it for calls), Unlimited Text & Unlimited Mobile for only £6 per month with staff discount. And no, I can't get that deal for anyone else sorry - we have a limited number of friends&family 25% off to give out and all mine are used.

My data usage going steadily up, especially since I started using the Google Music streaming service and now I tend to go through at least 2Gb a month ( Once you are on a truly unlimited data package, it's amazing how much more youtube you watch on 3g ! )
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
Phaha, yes it is the problem :( I tried cm10 was fine but wifi and audio bug killed it for me and even on the ICS stock wifi isnt that good it seems to just destroy the phone in battery life and responsiveness. I was hoping the nexus 4 will solve the flawed device but im yet to get hold of one >.<.

Im getting very tempted to just pay the £100 and grab it from carphonewarehouse right now haha!. How is the N4 vs the o2x then? I assume its a completely different league? The screen onpar? I just want an improvement over the o2x as the screen is awesome but stability (probably due to low bandwidth and ram) holds it back.
[Nexus 4 General] @home:
Lucky you - I pay £12 for that deal
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Yep I get 50% off. This low priced Nexus 4 has made me decide to finally get out of the contract trap. Pity I only decided to do this on the 15th November :) I even remembered an old friend who works for O2 but his discount only counts for contracts, not PAYG :(

EDIT - But to be fair, £12 still pretty good I guess isn't it to have unlimites text & data :)
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Virgin uses T-Mobile right? Does it extend to the shared network with Orange?
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
Yup it says somewhere on their website what they use and its both, I assume it will come under EE shortly.
[Nexus 4 General] Nickedynick:
Here's a coverage checker - it says on that page that Orange's network is used as a backup.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
@hicks

The biggest difference is that the nexus works, you open the box whack the sim in and it's good to go, I've not rooted mine still and it's working flawlessly, by now on my o2x it was rooted and running roms to fix lgs mess and even then it wasn't ever this stable. The screen is better, I think the o2x actually had a fairly good screen and this to me feels a bit sharper but most of the resolution boost is offset by the screen being bigger. The battery is on a par when in standby but when you use the screen it's worse, heavy screen use rinses the nexus a lot faster than the o2x did but it's too be expected. The other big difference is network speeds, my mobile Internet is a lot faster and I don't think I'm even using the dc -hspa set up, it's also a lot quicker at reconnecting to WiFi when I get home and 3g when the tube comes back above ground. It is really the performance that is the biggie though, in its final days the o2x was incredibly slow to do anything and really suffering from the bsod problems, the performance jump from that state the phone was in to the nexus was huge
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Sweet. I'll go to them from 3 asap.
[Nexus 4 General] hicks12:
Just confirming what I thought, can live with worse battery life as yeah its a beast when pushed! Sounds like i will enjoy when i finally get a hold of one :.

Ta
[Nexus 4 General] Korv:
Just to let anyone know. I had my phone rebooting about 4-5+ times a day for no reason. I traded it in with O2 for a replacement and this one has not restarted once and I've had it for about 4 days now.

Random Reboots are most likely hardware rather than anything else!
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
Same here. The replacement runs cooler and battery life is better too.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
I get HSPA+ 80% of the time now on EE. Reception wise, the N4 is already loads more solid than my S3 (with the latest modems and rils installed) ever was.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
I wonder if the restarts are linked to the heat, mine can run quite warm if I use it a lot, that said since the update to 4.2.1 I've had a lot less reboots, not sure if I've had any at all come to think of it.
[Nexus 4 General] Btrim14:
Any word at all on when the Play Store might get more UK stock?
[Nexus 4 General] jtc42:
I think realistically it's late enough that I have to accept that I can't get this phone in time for Christmas. It's a shame there's nothing comparable really. I can't go over £300, and I kind of want to actually get some updates every now and again, which rules out most manufacturers (their Android handsets at least).

Ah well. I guess they've never done anything like this before, so that explain why theres absolutely bloody awful at launching hardware :p
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Came here hoping for some news on when it wil be back in stock, but looks like its going to be a bit of a wait for this.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
What sort of screen on times do you guys get?
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
5 hours if I'm very lucky.

4 to 4 half usually. Heavy user.
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Got 6hrs yesterday but that isn't regular.

About 5 upwards is my usual. I play music over data quite a lot and using it for whatsapp etc. Wouldn't say heavy usage but more than medium.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Hooooold on. Is that SCREEN ON time? I'm lucky to go beyond 3h with 12h off charger.
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
The bumper I ordered on Nov 13th has changed to Dec 3rd on the Play Store... still haven't got it smh.
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
With previous N4 - 6hr with 1hr 45 min screen on (mobile data / no WiFi)

With replacement N4 - 10hr with 3hr screen on (mobile data / no WiFi) or 25hr with 4hr screen on (WiFi only)

There's a massive difference between WiFi and mobile data consumption.
[Nexus 4 General] Anon87:
I'd say, the lack television advertising suggests it won't be back in stock until after Xmas. IMHO.
[Nexus 4 General] Btrim14:
Is it worth just picking up a Galaxy Nexus off eBay in that case? Is there a massive difference in the devices?

Coming from an iPhone 4S...
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
I've got my bumper not my phone. My latest email:

"The specialty did not mention a time frame, if you do not receive any confirmation in a week, please email me so I can re-consult the specialty team. "

Not too reassuring is it?
[Nexus 4 General] kikumbob:
Erm, yes. About a years difference. Or more, since the Galaxy Nexus was released with slightly outdated hardware specs at the time.

Keep hold of your iphone for now. The wait will be worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
*Sigh* Christmas is going to be rather depressing this year... :(
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Yup that's my screen on time. I have a picture as proof but it keeps failing upload.
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Doubly so here as I would have been getting the N4 and giving my One X to my wife. So Google are denying 2 of us a new phone :)

And what will really annoy us is that on 13th Decmeber Three, talktalk and probably other networks will be getting the Nexus 4 and selling it at rip of prices whilst Google have none. So there will be hundreds or thousands of phones sat on shelves trying to sell for £400. Grrrr
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Tell me about it! :'( Just wish google would at least let us preorder! Then i wouldnt have to keep checking the play store every hour!! And when they do get back in stock they will most probably sell out as quickly as they did on the first batch.
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Can you post a print screen of the general battery use screen?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Has anyone looked into how much it would cost to import one from America? I guess the shipping would end up taking far too long anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
Well I have to say that dealing with TNT has been a much bigger nightmare than it has been with Google. Went to the depot last weekend to pick it up, was told it'd been misplaced. They then told me the package had been opened by someone and was being retained (oh, and the person who sent it to the office for inspection no longer works there. Coincidence? I think not). Today they tell me it's still in the depot, but minutes later they say that there's a signature against it by someone I don't know, and they still can't locate it. Twice they've said they'll get back to me, and both times they've failed to do so.

Got fed up and went ahead and called Google. They've disabled the devices and are in the process of shipping replacements to me. I'm PRAYING that TNT won't effin' tamper with my package this time.

Sorry to those of you who didn't manage to place an order on the 13th, but I just can't help feeling bloody annoyed. Anyway, good luck to you guys and hopefully TNT don't **** up your deliveries.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
When oh when will it be back in stock?? :'(
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Sure. Here it is.
[Nexus 4 General] SreePillai:
ordered mine from CPW. delivery tomorrow..checked with the lad at sales said they had 109 in stock.
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
What were you doing for those six hours? :confused:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
A mixture that's why it doesn't show many apps.

Playing a game called winter walk, watching some rugby online, whats app, texting, two phone calls that added up to half an hour, XDA and play music. Also watched a bit of play movies and g+ messenger.
[Nexus 4 General] moghm:
Thats the sad thing about all this. Big fan of google but how come so many shops have loads of stock at inflated prices and play store has none. I cant believe that there is nothing sinsiter with this situation. Id rather google had been upfront and say that some retailers would have exclusivity in the first month and then google play would get it. Not a happy bunny.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Hmmm. Reception seems to be solid. Was it like that all that time?
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Yeah, I'm lucky that my area and uni have amazing signal. The two hours I was at Uni that was WiFi but as you imagine I was in a lecture then so not much playing on phone.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I think radio uses A LOT of battery on N4. That could have contributed to that great battery life. I have pretty poor reception.
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Yeah I think you are right there. I will know on wednesday as I get no good reception at work so I could probably watch the juice drop out of the thing.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Yup, will be keeping an eye out for your report. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
Well Canada is getting their round 2 at 3pm their time according to Engadget
[Nexus 4 General] ermacwins:
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/03/nexus-4-available-canada/

Like I said before, there will be announcement for UK when the time comes and it wont suddenly show up
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
*grinds teeth in jealosy!!!* Googles gotta give UK some love soon!!
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Anyone notice they removed the accessories page for a 30 seconds or so? Wonder what they're up too.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
On UK gplay?
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Yup.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Well i didnt notice it but lets hope its a positive sign eh?
[Nexus 4 General] ermacwins:
When did the US have their round 2 of stock? Last Monday?
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Last Tuesday I think.

US restock - Last Tuesday

CA restock - This Tuesday

UK restock - Next Tuesday? (Probably be an Europe wide one I guess)

That seems to be the pattern so far anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] JamesRC:
Canada got stock today (Monday).

We can hope - no indications its true (but Google likes Tuesdays) it's tomorrow for the UK. Wishful thinking, I know.

Present rumours are 6th for DE (maybe whole EU??) but not confirmed.
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Hopefully, but I don't think so... :( The way I thought it was going was that LG spent all of last week making stock for Canada, and the week before that making phones for America. Just my thoughts, probably not correct, just seems to make sense to me haha.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
I really do hope this is true, starting to get worried for xmas now!! :(
[Nexus 4 General] Daidodactyl:
Me too, not very hopeful at the moment.