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[Nexus 4 General] Leo Davidson:
My 4th Dec order just jumped to the top of my Play order list and was re-dated 15th Dec (i.e. today).

Aside from the date change, it's still Status = Pre-Ordered in Play.

Over in Wallet, it's still Status = Pending and still has the old 4th Dec date.

Who knows what this means, but I hope it means the order is going to be processed soon and not that they're going to try to say the 1-2 week window has been reset as of now. :|

The change must've happened in the last couple of hours, as I checked my status recently after buying some music and it was a few items down the list (under some apps etc. I'd also installed since the 4th).
[Nexus 4 General] manook:
Google just charged my CC for the full amount. 16gb 1-2 weeker here...

this is exactly what happened when I ordered my N10 and received a delivery email at about 2am sunday morning....
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
A deduction of 289 squids from my account today.

1-2 weeker.

+ it says pre order and n4 moved to the top of the my orders list.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Mine too.

Edit: 1-2 weeks 17:20:55 4/Dec
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
...it could be happening...i cant control gmail and the store now. Im excited!!!
[Nexus 4 General] doubleluckstur:
My order date changed to today as well even though I ordered on the 4th too... signs of progress? they must be looking at our orders unless this is a glitch
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Same. Holding breath.....

3-5 dayer
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
My bank account also just been charged the 288 quid !

Still pre-order status in play store but now at top of list with today's date.

No change in wallet.

Something is happening......
[Nexus 4 General] manook:
Soo glad I didnt nip down to CPW / O2 today..... Extra £100 to burn now.... ill still tell the missus it cost £389 :P
[Nexus 4 General] Leyths:
Order date just changed from the 4th to the 15th on Play Store..

3-5 day estimate. Ordered 4th.
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
edit: 1-2 weeker
[Nexus 4 General] Anon87:
Ditto what you guys said. Order on play store just updated to 15th.

I'm a 16gb 1-2 weeker.
[Nexus 4 General] adamase:
If I'm now at the back of the queue, the person who's christmas present hit my account earlier than expect is getting a lump of coal instead! :p
[Nexus 4 General] Harv.!:
My 1-2 weeks 04-Dec-2012 17:09:23 GMT order just went to the top of my Play order list, and as others have stated, the date has changed to the15th of Dec ?
[Nexus 4 General] perrywhite:
+1. Order date now 15 December. Complete in play and pending in checkout as before ( original 3-5 dayer).

At least something is happening.
[Nexus 4 General] shaneZ95:
Same here 1-2 weeker, money taken & play order date changed to December 15th, still pre-order.
[Nexus 4 General] Tank-Montana:
Same here.

Is it too early to think that we'll have ours by the end of the week for Christmas?
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
no movement on mine ....oh well
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Omg please!! My two 16gbs have gone to december 15th also!!!!

Guys this has gotta be it!!"
[Nexus 4 General] moneybanks14:
my nexus 4 order in the playstore has changed from the 4th to the 15th wtf!
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
Nothing for me...:/
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
me too :}.. 15th

1-2 weeker 16gb, order 5.06.56
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
don't forget to quote your original shipping estimate on here.

Those who have had no change, what was yours ?
[Nexus 4 General] manook:
I think that date is purely the date of the last activity. Mine shows the 15th on play but when you click it the status still shows 4th...
[Nexus 4 General] Northernmost:
Same here. Can it be?! I'll believe it when I'm opening a brand new N4.
[Nexus 4 General] moneybanks14:
3-5 days.
[Nexus 4 General] fremar:
1-2 week here and money taken again today.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
I had two 16gbs on order with 1-3 weeks shipping on both, but like lots of you mines gone to december 15th date. Plzohplz meen its gonna ship!!! :D
[Nexus 4 General] jvmaniac:
The date change happened with my nov 13 order as well, and I got the shipping email a day or two after the change. So we could see shipping emails as early as tomorrow or monday! Sucks that I'm out of the country though
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
I can confirm that my order has now changed to December 15. Was originally December 4, 1-2 week estimate.
[Nexus 4 General] moneybanks14:
so a brand spanking ne s3 to play with on monday and maybe an N4 on tuesday!! xmas coming early hopefully!
[Nexus 4 General] 2.0:
I got this email saying:

I can't remember when i updated the payment information, I think it was about an hour after I ordered the device by emailing Google asking if they could update the payment information which I had no reply to. Google Play also says 15 December 2012.
[Nexus 4 General] zen123:
Absolutely no activity since I placed the order on Dec 4 except an email confirming I'm a 1-2 weeker but got a message from Google just now that my payment was declined & to update my details. Couldn't be asrsed to do it as I've lost interest in the phone so I cancelled the order. Good luck people on getting the phone. Looks like things are starting to get moving.
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
Check your bank accounts/ credit cards too
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
i've checked now. Got an email with "Payment update confirmati​on" ( i didn't lol...)

My wallet now says also :

• Dec 15 You successfully updated your payment for this order to

And my order date on the store now has been changed to 15th december

I'm a 1-2 weeker. Ordered 4th december at 17:14

can't control to status of my credit card balance (the card is not mine)
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
I'm having trouble telling, can you guys work out if the amount taken is the device plus shipping, or just the device?

Please quote your original shipping estimate too, thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Bimbilator:
MInes changed too.

Jumped to 15th in play store.

Still pending in wallet though.

1-2 weeker 4 December 2012 17:25:28

We shall see!!
[Nexus 4 General] furrypotato:
288.99 exactly. So with shipping
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Unfortuntely i cant check if iv been charged or not atm. But as everyone else who changed to dec 15 has im guessing i have been. Cmon!!! Lets get some shippin emails!!! :D
[Nexus 4 General] adamase:
Mine's including shipping, on a 3-5 day.
[Nexus 4 General] Josh98:
Yep, all seem to be with shipping included.
[Nexus 4 General] StuMcBill:
Or they could at least put up on the Product page "All initial stock sold out - expecting more stock soon"

Or words to that effect?
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
They won't do that because that actually makes sense.
[Nexus 4 General] itsmyname:
Anyone else think Google have done this purposely; The initial stock for the core users is sold at a subsidised price however when the next batches come in they'll be sold at an increased price?

Just a thought
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Google will not increase the prices, but you can't help think the retailers/contractors will be getting more of the stock to sell to us at higher figures.
[Nexus 4 General] L0cke:
What do you mean, "core users"? How could they determine who they are selling too?

And if they do up the price many people will simply walk away.
[Nexus 4 General] kaiowas82:
they can't do that before 2 weeks, otherwise they will get flooded with refund request....
[Nexus 4 General] G405T:
I don't think they will put the price up any time soon; but it could be a marketing ploy to gain attention from the media.. I'm not saying that it is, I think they were just poorly prepared.
[Nexus 4 General] PWF:
That sounds more feasible
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
I wonder if goolge employees helped themselves to large batches of the first release. I have been refreshing since last night and have not once seen the 'add to cart button'..uk
[Nexus 4 General] itsmyname:
Those who stayed up all night just so they could order this wouldn't have exactly been new to Android or Google's Nexus range, they'd have been following the news and waiting in anticipation for release date, those I would call core users or die hard Android consumers
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
It appeared at 8AM this morning... for 20 minutes, then it sold out.
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
The complete lack of communication is what's most annoying. Surely Google know what's going on, why can't they just say "we ****ed up the release, we didn't have enough stock. We expect more stock in X days"
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
I try to order it like 10 time this morning around 8:20 but every time i try to check out and pay it disappear from the cart.

Same things a couple of times around 10...
[Nexus 4 General] G405T:
I can't help but doubt whether Google do actually know what's going on; as they keep making last minute changes to their plans.. and ofc, the support staff are mostly clueless!
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
We might get an official statement after their HQ in California opens
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
CPW have then IN STOCK, but contracts only, spoke to the sales. She GUESSED that sim free and payg will be available in two weeks time once the hype comes down. Sounds legit and makes sense.
[Nexus 4 General] will444:
When do you think more stock will be added? Because I was so annoyed at it selling in 20 mins, stupid site
[Nexus 4 General] L0cke:
I think something magical may happen later this afternoon...

...we'll get official confirmation there's no stock!
[Nexus 4 General] MattSkeet:
question is how do they release their products....

based on my own knowledge and experience, whatever google releases in MV, CA, goes out at the same time in rest of the world. It also applies to the market. If a company releases something in UK at 6PM it will show up at 8AM in US

It woudlnt surprise me, if google were testing their servers for load etc in the morning.

PS> does the +1 button ocated under the coming soon is international or domestic??
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Yeah something needs to be done/said! its getting ridiculous! i mean look at my set up...

:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] .fahim:
Seems to be the whole amount including postage from what I can tell.
[Nexus 4 General] ozzrahog:
The pending transaction on my CC is phone plus delivery

I'm 1-2 weeks from the 4th but updated tonight to the 15th(still showing preorder in the play store)
[Nexus 4 General] dpmcalli:
When I refreshed the thread and saw all these new pages I knew something was up. Hopefully this means shipping emails being sent on Monday! :o
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Ok, so it appears the original transactions are being fulfilled, not new ones created.

So that's money going out of accounts, nothing more yet.

Can't say for certain, or if this is happening for other countries too..
[Nexus 4 General] dan653:
Me too.

3-5 days

Order changed to 15th & cc charged £288.99
[Nexus 4 General] Harv.!:
Any idea why so many are having their payments declined or changed...is it just your credit card bank not letting through a large payment without confirmation ?
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
1-2 weeks estimate, NO update :(
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
dont know how to check my credit card lol
[Nexus 4 General] ayamary:
Same as everyone here, been charged (or money put on hold), 1 - 2 weeks, the order date in play store updated but the order in wallet hasn't changed though!
[Nexus 4 General] manook:
n

Just to pre-warn if you receive shipping emails today / tomorrow. On monday the TNT status may show "Please Call" and when you call them they say there is no parcel. The following day it will appear in the TNT system, its purely just so many parcels being sent to TNT that they couldnt all be collected from Google at the same time.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Not sure, I would say it's because there was not enough money in the account when the request was presented, or your order has not been processed yet. Again, only guesswork.
[Nexus 4 General] Shaun--77:
Been charged but its only reserved, wallet still shows pending and 4th date although play store has changed to 15th:)
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
my friend (who is the owner of the credit card used on the store) just wrote me a text. He got a text alarm from his bank. Charged of 288,89£. So this is the complete amount, shipping included.

I'm excited...i want to believe
[Nexus 4 General] Bettz:
My Orders now showing 15th Still saying Pending though :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Guys think about it like this- On our receipt emails it said it would charge when it was shipping! Now we are all getting charged so im fairly confident they are gonna ship very very soon! Just keep cjecking your wallet status. According to the OP it changes from pending to shipped before we get our glorious email.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Dispatch estimate?
[Nexus 4 General] SreePillai:
no such luck yet..but i was on 4-5 weeks group order went thru on the 4th 18:23...so hopefully us lot will start getting some good news in the next week as well..fingers crossed
[Nexus 4 General] theimpaler:
Same here:

Original Shipping: 3-5 Days

Bought on the 4th @ 17:08

Now Google Play says the 15th December "Complete" - Said 4th Before

Bank has put funds on hold. - £288.99 (so inclusive of shipping)

Excited - a little... but also thinking that sacrificing a sheep to the Google Gods might still help...
[Nexus 4 General] munkimatt:
Are people getting actual charges or are these just 'holds' again? My balance has been reduced but nothing on the actual statement.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
So have ALL the 3-5 day and 1-2 week orders changed to todays date?
[Nexus 4 General] rpudner:
shipping refund

I am a 1 to 3 day order on the 4th and my cc has been at least re authorised and my order date changed to the 15th.

If they ship on Monday and you are a 1 to 2 Weeker then they will not be late so why would they not charge.

Edited for autocorrect
[Nexus 4 General] Josh98:
Just holds again (at least mine is anyway).
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
1-3 day? U meen 3-5 days?
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
Has any one else with an estimate of longer than 1-2 weeks changed to 15 December too?
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
:) exactly what I'm trying to find out
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Iv only seen 3-5 days and 1-2 weeks so far.
[Nexus 4 General] Shaun--77:
Do TNT still operate on Sunday? i mean like still get orders to depots and stuff?
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
No, mine hasn't.
[Nexus 4 General] Hereisphilly:
Mines changed to the 15th in the play store, but still on pre-order. Nothing has been charged to my credit card, but I suspect that because I don't get weekend transactions showing up till Monday. Is anyone else who is a 1-2 weeker and a NatWest customer with a NatWest credit card experiencing this?
[Nexus 4 General] tonybhoy:
nope
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Guys its not just us who are changing to decmember 15th Germany AND Canada are getting it too. Although there not as excited as us.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Can you paste in the exact time and date from the order please, I'll see what I can spot, if anything?
[Nexus 4 General] Egg Chaser:
Mine has also been updated to a 15th December order (1-2 week shipping estimate). Still showing as Pre-ordered on my account, though.
[Nexus 4 General] -Asskicker-:
Mine says nothing new on the Google Wallet page:

Dec 4 Google Commerce Ltd received your order.

Dec 4 You placed an order with Google Commerce Ltd on Dec 4. Google Wallet sent a copy of this receipt to ...

Nothing changed.

On Google play nothing changed either:

Nexus 4 (16GB)

December 4, 2012

Pre-ordered

Help Center

I can't even see the estimated delivery. :/
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
Order Date: 4 December 2012 17:06:52 UTC

Order Number: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[Nexus 4 General] :
On Google Play my order date has been updated from the 4th Dec to the 15th Dec.

Google Wallet has not had any updates applied.

CC has funds on hold.

I don't know what to make of it all :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] ant_thomas:
3-5 days. 17:05:59.

Changed in Play Store to 15th December. Still "Complete" in Play Store.

Still pending on Google Wallet, no date change.

NatWest credit card. Not seen any charges at all.
[Nexus 4 General] rpudner:
Yes sorry must be stuck in a g time warp
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
Well, I'm hoping we can see a surprise email on Monday then. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Me too! :P
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
I would expect them to operate 7 days a week, even if they don't actually do deliveries. If not all year around, certainly at Christmas.

I had a delivery today (Saturday 5pm, CityLink) that was booked for Monday, and they were working overtime to cope with increased workloads. Not TNT though, nor my Nexus 4!

Amazon manage to process orders made on a Sunday for Monday AM delivery (I have a Prime account).
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Are you watching, Google? :)

Remember our original complaint of communication. I've seen posts of people having actions on their account without any notice, and then the transactions not completing because there wasn't enough money in the account.

BUT I'M NOT COMPLAINING EITHER!
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
It isn't really Google's fault if people no longer have sufficient funds. Even if they emailed ahead, how long would they be expected to wait?

I've made the same mistake myself in years gone by and it was my fault for not keeping track of things. :(
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
No, agreed. But I'm trying to point out that this may not fix everybody's situation, and there are some people whose budgets have to be very well planned at this time of year.
[Nexus 4 General] klinkerhoffen:
Me too ....

My credit card has the 288.99 pending too and date changed to 15th December. Still showing as complete in play store and pending in wallet.

At least we have movement I just really hope it isn't a false dawn.

(Order 4th @5.08 to be delivered in 3-5 days)
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
This basically means that they put the orders in the right order.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
Most of the year courier companies take Saturday evening off. So all the interdepot traffic stops where it was at close of play Saturday. They then trunk as normal Sunday evening for delivery Monday.

In the last week or two before Christmas they often move to seven day operations if volume warrants it.
[Nexus 4 General] Hereisphilly:
I'm on a NatWest cc too, any changes that happen over the weekend I'm pretty sure aren't shown until midnight on Monday
[Nexus 4 General] .fahim:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but we'd be lying to say we had any clue what it really means...
[Nexus 4 General] Cuttooth4:
Looks like we're at the crossroads of either having a lot of orders being sent out tonight or all these orders being backordered and given the same order date of today where everyone will have to wait quite some time for their phones to be delivered. Just imagine if that happened.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Not to pee on bonfires, (i hope so too) but let's just be cautious.

All we know is simply it appears than money has been requested from 3-5 dayers and 1-2 weekers.
[Nexus 4 General] Bettz:
Im the same although mine's a debit card we won't see anything until Monday/Tuesday 2am
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
You just officially ruined my best mood in a long time. Anyway yes you could be right.

Lets pray that this change is for the better and not for the worse.
[Nexus 4 General] AndyBurns:
Mine too ... 17:06:05 order time, originally 1-2 week estimate, still pending & pre-ordered on store/wallet

full amount pending & approved on Natwest business credit card an hour ago (also same amount on 11th December)

Shipping emails Sunday or Monday night? :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] munkimatt:
Both of my orders have moved from the 4th to the 15th but the Wallet entries are still showing the 4th.
[Nexus 4 General] Boeing100:
Hi all,

I am a 1-2 weeker. My Credit Card has the £288 on hold now (no debited but put on hold so I can see that reflected on my available credit), and my Google play order date has been updated from 4th to 15th as well under "pre-order" status. No changes in Google Wallet, still showing as pending, 4th december order date.

It seems we might get a bit a good news on monday?
[Nexus 4 General] Bideshiii:
Long time lurker here...No update to Google play and no hold on bank account again. I initially didn't mind the wait but know 3 individuals who ordered 2 hours after me (4-5 weeks estimated) and had the phones delivered on Thursday 6th December.

Just out of curiosity; how did Google calculate shipping timings on the 4th as I've seen people with later order times than mine (5:08:59 - 4-5 weeks) but 1-2 weeks :confused:

Thanks for the updates :good:
[Nexus 4 General] redmamoth:
3-5 dayer here, money pending on my credit card again. Hopefully this is a good sign!
[Nexus 4 General] Carnoustie:
No change for me :mad:

Dec 4 - 2012 - 5:07:55 - 1-2 Weeks - No payment request
[Nexus 4 General] moneybanks14:
dont they only take payment upon sjipping of the device?? surely this is good news!
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
True. Hope my post didn't sound rude in view of that fact. However, if funds are tight (and I speak from personal experience) then perhaps reconsider if you need something like this phone - most of us here could probably live without it!

Also, my order is now 15 December too. I hope they had a delivery late last week and are now going to process them in one hit. Fingers crossed...
[Nexus 4 General] Nathtech:
Thats what i said! :D I think the action will start tommorow evening ;) Then hopefully shipped for mon/tuesday?
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Trying to work out if there seems to be a time limit they are working with, for example orders before 17:07:00 are being worked on.

Can't tell yet.
[Nexus 4 General] moneybanks14:
it looks like it smadger as only 1-2 weeks and less have had this confirmed! bought at 17;09 but i put in basket at a around 17;05
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
Nope. Mine is :

Order Date: 4 December 2012 17:06:52 UTC
[Nexus 4 General] AndyBurns:
The haven't *taken* money on my card, it's been approved by the bank as a pending transaction.
[Nexus 4 General] bengrendon:
1-2 week here and I too have had my order bumped up the list still pre order and pending in wallet no charge showing on debit card but prob won't show until Monday. I phoned the CS number to ask about and the girl I spoke to gave me her assurance that I will have it in my hands on the 19th. She has also escalated my enquiry to a shipping specialist to get me some more info from the horse's mouth so to speak.

Will post here when I get any thing more but I am hopeful for getting my Device soon.

Cheers guys lets hope this is going the way we all think.
[Nexus 4 General] Hereisphilly:
My order time was 17.08 on the 4th and has been moved to today, fingers crossed I'm in luck!
[Nexus 4 General] sidhaarthm:
Hey all,

I am among the 1-2 weekers who placed their orders on 04 Dec. My order was recorded at 17:06:20hrs. Similar to several of you, I too have noticed the order status change on Play Store (order date now reflects 15 Dec) although status still says 'Pre-Order'. I just checked my Amazon.co.uk MBNA Credit Card and the £288.99 charge is now back on (precise amount). It is not a pre-auth this time but a proper charge.

PS*: smadger - I'd like to heartily thank you (and all others who contributed) for your efforts in putting together the complain letter/evidence to bring our situation to Google's notice.

PPS* - smadger - I just noticed your signature which says "UPDATE 15th DEC - 31:30 GMT". Are you sure the time wasn't supposed to say 21:30GMT?
[Nexus 4 General] .fahim:
My e-mail says my order was made at 17:14:42 seconds, my payment has been reheld (or taken?) and Play store date has changed. However, I think I hit the check out button well before that as I had to set up my Google Wallet with my credit card before I was able to complete.
[Nexus 4 General] thomss79:
I ordered at 5:09 on the 4th and mines been changed to the 15th now too.
[Nexus 4 General] RoadkillUK:
I don't know where you're looking on the Play Website, could someone direct me?

I seem to only have Pending on my Google Wallet.

Cheers

(3-5 days)

Lee.