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[Nexus 4 General] E-nr:
Had 288.xy charged to my account (with Lloyd's, it says your current balance and then like actual funds available or whatever which is 288 lower y'dig) so fingers crossed I won't have to go another week with my ****ty SGS2.

It's horrible what waiting does to people. I mean look at this "wow so you have had two date changes, awesome stuff" - yes, there's two date changes, sex and cocaine, my top 3 awesome stuff at the moment.
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
Yes it could be. It could also be another inane ploy by Google, thinking that them tinkering with something will convince us that they are doing something to get handsets from Korea to the UK, to TNT, to us. Which it is, is only in the mind of Google so far. I'm vaguely hopeful, but as yet drawing no conclusions.

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See above
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Date in Play now changed to the 17th January, delivery / shipping estimate still 23rd January. Money being taken from credit card as a pending transaction.

Guys, gals, the phones are around somewhere in the UK, and we should be seeing shipment emails I think by weekend latest.

Here's hoping...... :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Hmm,

Ordered 8th.

Got today;s date + 23rd shipping (which is nice as I was missed with the Jan 2nd change!). Debit card available balance about £350 under what it should be but I filled up my car for £60 earlier which leaves around the magic £289 mark......:fingers-crossed:

Now as this is a debit card I assume this is a transaction in progress as it isn't credit so doesn't need to be ring fenced (as there is no 'credit limit' to check). I never had an amount taken off my available balance like this when I first ordered so it appears to be for real this time...

Finally......... the Nexus 4 has. come. back. to the UK?

Only once its rooted and booted and in my hands.

Good luck guys, it's been emotional! :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
They 'could' still flag it due to the amount £289 is more than the average cost of your apps. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
How did you check available balance on your debit card? Cash point? or are you Lloyds :/

Hmm good thinking Bladesman, might have to give them a call at work tomorrow morning... setting a calendar reminder now!
[Nexus 4 General] lawrences:
True. will phone them tomorrow. thanks for the tip:good:
[Nexus 4 General] ksengodon:
For HSBC debit card, you can check the pending charge by using these steps:

- Do the normal login

- Under "Day to Day Banking" click on "Bank A/C" and then click on "Show account information"

- You'll see "Balance" and "Available Balance"

- Difference should tell you the pending charge.

Cheers
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
You legend, i have the pending charge of 288.99 :highfive: woop woop
[Nexus 4 General] Tones1971:
Another with funds held over and order date changed to 17th. Better be shipping soon!
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Received an email about 10 mins ago, nearly peed my pants, then was let down :(
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Yeah Lloyds, online banking. Most banks should show you an available balance as well as 'actual' on a current account though. Its pretty standard info. May be tucked away in an account summary screen tho.

Just ordered a case on ebay for just £3.50 (not the cheapest but I want transparent to show off the back of course) hell why not believe i'll have a phone to go with it when it arrives, PMA and all that.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271130747...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Anyone think this dock would work for an N4? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170927216330?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Its for the S3 but they are similar size (S3 is a bit wider which helps) and are micro usb, not sure how the audio out would work tho. Otherwise any other dock suggestions (I like the idea it works in landscape too)
[Nexus 4 General] grained:
is the lloyds webpage working for any of you guys??? mine isn't loading, although using the mobile app worked
[Nexus 4 General] druggeduk:
Date in play store has changed to 17th and I have the pending charge on my bank account... lets see the email!!
[Nexus 4 General] Evostance:
Argh. I've just gone onto my Natwest Credit Card Services.

The difference between my limit and what I've spent?

£577.98

The total cost of 2x 16GB Nexus 4?

£577.98

This better be just a coincidence..
[Nexus 4 General] blizard80:
Ordered in 4th at 17.31h.

Date changed to 2nd Jan, then yesterday got shipping estimate to 5th Jan in play store. Now today changed to 17th and I have a nice amount being held in current account.

No email yet. But I'm sure it's time!
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
My case arrived yesterday, its so tormenting!
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Nice, what did you get? Mines a flexshield clear TPU. Cheapish but reviewed well on youtube.

Any plans to get a dock (like previous link for example)
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Got this.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330843533...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

The light blue one, although its more purple than blue :/

With regards to the dock, not much need for one, if the right dock for the right price comes along then maybe :P

Really was the Orb!
[Nexus 4 General] Evostance:
I haven't bothered with a case. Just going to use my old Desire HD one if it fits. Fit my GNex perfectly. I have however made a custom skin to fit the back of it to cover the glass, using the images below and then uploading it to www.gelaskins.com:

If you want to download this wallpaper for your skin, you can download it here:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwDgHmCGZo8YaktOcktfYXpTUk0/edit

This doesn't just have to be used on the Nexus 4

Don't forget to get the original wallpapers from here:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/106518316215438124070/posts/KXoujHYVxWS

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[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Lol,

If Google do manage to dash our hopes AGAIN I may just get this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xiaomi-MI...07280?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1e76676850

Recognise the specs? and a removable battery and custom rom support AND they have stock ;)

If the N4 wasnt so awesome I'd be tempted to get a chinese takeaway :p
[Nexus 4 General] druggeduk:
The precise problem is that the execs probably aren't saying anything of the sort about the Nexus 4 - if they even talk about it it'll be a footnote at their meetings in comparison to most of the things that are on the agenda for them. Google is a giant company - divisions upon divisions, all I'm sure working autonomously, and that's where you get issues.

Part of it I think is because they've expanded so quickly. Apple is far from a small company but they are much more focused than Google. Google do internet stuff (search, maps, docs, email, etc etc), software, hardware, research and much more - Apple make and develop their own products to sell.

It's not an excuse, but Google seems like an excitable kid - they want to do everything, but sometimes they just don't take enough time to properly consider or set things up.

They need to properly set up a division committed to hardware and setting up distribution and retail properly. Trouble is this takes years, and the speed that Google move doesn't give them years to perfect things. Just think - Google are using Computer2000 (I believe) in the UK to distribute the product... you wouldn't get apple doing that - they have their own warehouses and own retail stores sorted by now. No problems and no-one left out of the loop.
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
You've just condensed all of the overanalyzed idiocy of this thread in to one (not so easy to read) post. Well done.

Demand » supply. The end.
[Nexus 4 General] ShutUpYouFace:
reprint bultsid

I blame the Black Label.

Furthermore, my point is, yes it is demand is more than the supply. That's not what my problem is. My problem is how the situation has been handled, and the approach Google has taken to the problem.

I think the execs do take the n4 seriously. Afterall, mobile/portables is where things are heading. Of course, we still use our computers/laptops, but I find myself using my phone for searching and looking into things quite substantially. It's the whole reason why Google is making such a massive push towards the mobile industry with their Android OS. Soon mobile will be one of they're core services, the big money maker. Look at FaceBook, their trying really hard to make their mobile services more profitable.

Perhaps I am being too impatient, perhaps I've got the wrong end of the stick, or perhaps it's it's the whisky.

Either way, google has shot itself in the foot with this one. And unless they ensure this *never* happens again and change their attitude, then more and more people will feel more strongly inclined not to use google services... Put it this way, say you fly Virgin Atlantic, and experience one of the worst airline experiences you have ever experienced. Such that it is a painful memory that you will remember all your life, will you go home and subscribe to their TV service? Unlikely.
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
I'm glad to know they're still sending them.
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
I dont have my email yet ):
[Nexus 4 General] jordanadams86:
I know, but it's just a cherry on top of this whole debacle. I guess it's the price to pay for actually getting one.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Still no one got an email who ordered the bumper?
[Nexus 4 General] sungrad:
I wouldn't worry too much. They likely recycle old tracking numbers. Check in a few hours or in the morning, and it will probably have been updated. You're not supposed to even be able to track a parcel with TNT for up to 24 hours after you get the number :)

EDIT: sorry, androidy beat me to that. I type way to slow ;)
[Nexus 4 General] jofullalove:
Got email, and at same time play store and wallet details changed to shipped.
[Nexus 4 General] Nexx:
I think you need to set it as a reference number, not a consignment number. I remember seeing that mentioned before with TNT and Google.

As a consignment number, I have something from June, as a reference number, it's not listed yet.
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Has anyone who ordered a Bumper had an email yet?
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Yeah, I have a feeling that might be the case. Regardless, I want to try. Who knows, they might have more information available tomorrow!

My pleasure. :) There's no point me searching and finding all of this out and then keeping the information to myself. I'll help everyone else find the best deal as much as I can. I know people appreciate it and I have a lot of time on my hands at the moment. :highfive:

Mmmm. That may be the case but I still want to try. They may give me the same answer, who knows? We'll find out tomorrow. :D
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
Ordered 08:32:40, Looks like I wont be getting mine till Friday or even Monday..
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
I'm holding out a final hope that this evening there's three piles:

1) Nexus 10's scanned out

2) Nexus 4 solus orders scanning out

3) Multi-package orders to be scanned out
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
Personally I can't wait for you all to get your new phones so hope they all come tomorrow. This is not because I'm being nice but simply so we can go back to moaning about how long we have to wait without you lot interrupting with your "when will we get the ones we successfully ordered" :p

On a serious note though I'm sleepy.....I mean enjoy your new toys and don't tease us too much ;)

Don't forget, it's just a phone! Hahaha
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Make sure you're not just judging that from the e-mails. If you haven't already, check your order status and Wallet order status thingy. :D

--------------EDIT-------------

Also this. ^
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Incidentally, the guys getting emails, did you say to link it to your account or not?
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
This wait is a lot less painful then the Nexus 7 wait, trust me :P that was sheer hell and terror haha.

I ordered my Nexus 4 16G at 08:33:30.

Still pending in Google wallet.

Still says 15th as estimated delivery date in Play store.
[Nexus 4 General] DHTC:
Anyone in birmingham who wants to have a go on a demo, they have one at the o2 store on the bottom.floor of the bullring.

Just dont go to the one on the second floor as the staff are clueless. Cpw around the bullring also have no stock and price.
[Nexus 4 General] Tomdarkness:
Left it ticked to link it to my account (was not actually sure what it ment until after I ordered it :P)
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Right, just checking. I left it ticked too.
[Nexus 4 General] jofullalove:
I didn't even check so whatever is default is what I got.
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
Wallet says pending

Play says estimated 15th
[Nexus 4 General] natabbotts:
I'm showing a date change in the play store to the 17th, but still showing shipping estimate for the 16th! Anyone else in a similar situation? Google Play Support aren't responding to any emails I've sent today.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
TROLLER LALA LA LAL LAL LAL LAAH ! !

Please >> Go Away. The End.
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
Read the last couple of pages Sir/Miss... :)
[Nexus 4 General] jackalomg:
Date changed from 2 Jan to 18 Jan and money held over. No email though.
[Nexus 4 General] Nova163:
When I woke up just now first thing I did was check for a shipping email... I feel like a kid on his birthday :P
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
Date change to 17th not checked bank will do.
[Nexus 4 General] dannyling:
Just got this reply

Thank you for contacting Google Play support.

According to our records, the authorization on your payment information has been processed today. This means you can expect a tracking number within the next 24 hours.

If you have any additional questions feel free to respond to this email.

Thanks,
[Nexus 4 General] xfre4k:
Date changed to 18 Dec ... ETA 23 Dec ... :D
[Nexus 4 General] lanky78:
Got an email from Google!!!:D

That turned out to be another survey :rolleyes:

Soooo close!
[Nexus 4 General] d_leonit:
For me date change to 18 january, and they took the money from bank account :D. Hope it will ship in 24h :D. Status still shows shipping estimate: January 23, 2013
[Nexus 4 General] druggeduk:
Exciting news!

Lets hope this will all be over soon!
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
While I don't necessarily agree with how LarsenB has made his arguments and he's wound some people up on this thread, his conclusion is correct.

Google made a hash of the demand forecast to give to LG

Google doesn't seem to have any proper systems or connectivity to LG, to show where stock is in the supply chain

Google CSRs don't have any proper information about where stock is in the supply chain and therefore, cannot give better information than they have been doing, above and beyond the broad shipping estimates originally when placing orders (which could have been done on the back of a new fag packet)

To keep ringing / emailing the CSRs is a waste of time and doesn't help, especially when the majority of people are still within their original shipping estimates and therefore, can't help the ones whose orders have gone wrong

Whatever happened to people being patient and waiting? You knew what the lead time was when you placed the order, so stop complaining.

Yes the information from Google is poor but don't forget, their not set up to be a retail business and don't have the systems in place as they cost millions and for what they need, it would be overkill anyway unless they want to go the Apple model is selling a larger variety and quantity of hardware.

Some of the comments about moaning / complaining are plain childish. Be patient.
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Yep mines been charged :) and authorised.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisgtl:
Keeping my fingers crossed for you all!! Hope to see you soon over at the N4 dev section.

Keep up the faith :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Its been fully charged, not just pending?!
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Well it said the charge has been authorised but I have had no email. The CSR could have just mis-said something.
[Nexus 4 General] blizard80:
in my debit card is still pending
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Yeah still pending here too, just got off the phone to HSBC to confirm it wasnt going to get blocked, they said it wasnt going to anyway and the charge has been authorised and they are just waiting for Google to take the money..

Im not taking any chances! Google just take the money already!!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
congrates mate, soo happy you seen progress......i told you wait a few days lol lol

do you think TNT will deliver in this weather ?

just what we need! :(
[Nexus 4 General] flipmokid:
Ordered 5th Dec with 6-7 week estimate. Credit card is showing a Google pending transaction.

Hopefully I'll get it soon as my original HTC Desire is overheating after 5 mins data use and the battery is only good for a 10 minute phone call!
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
Feels like Christmas all over again, especially with this snow!!

Not too sure, mine will have to travel across the channel to Jersey :rolleyes: so im not being optimistic about getting it today or tomorrow (TNT dont do Saturday deliveries over here)...

Although if i do find out it is in Jersey this afternoon, i will be straight down the depot banging down the door!

What progress has been made with yours mate?
[Nexus 4 General] lawrences:
Just called HSBC, they ve already authorized the charge but google havent take it.
[Nexus 4 General] polipetto:
but no one have received shipping emails yet...
[Nexus 4 General] Moonie17:
One can hope... :good:
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
just date change i have checked my Credit Card (HSBC) it doesnt show pending transactions :(

but its good to hear that alot of people have pending transactions.....mine must be the same
[Nexus 4 General] polipetto:
clearly what we have now in this thread it's only hope!!!
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
Great, still no changes... Maybe sgs4 will be available before i get my N4.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
you seem to have a order problem, no progress since then seems like your order is lost in the system

ring/email them and ask them to send your order problem to a specialist
[Nexus 4 General] yoonder84:
Yes, my credit card was declined, but it was re-authorized 12/21. The said my device should ship 1-2 weeks from the card authorization, but that's 01/4. I send a mail two days ago but no answer, just changed my delivery estimate to 12/19...
[Nexus 4 General] mojo22:
Mine doesn't either but there is a way you can tell if the payment is pending.

Take your current balance, lets say 1000.

the take your available balance ( it should say it somewhere ).

If your available balance is 711.01 for example then that means your pending 288.99.
[Nexus 4 General] kon_fil:
I just got a message from citibank alert that i was charged 288.99£ !!!! At googlewallet the status is still pending... Google received my order 12/12 (N4 16Gb).
[Nexus 4 General] rhymer2k:
I really hope this is good news and this episode is close to its end.

I'm hopeful mainly because of the charges in our accounts, and due to the fact that only my current order changed to the 17th Jan as normally even my cancelled order changed dates. Also people have reported changes to today's date, which means orders are somehow being processed in batches.
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
you were right

£288.99 is the difference between current limit and available credit!

cool
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
Sorry to put a dampener on things, but whilst it doesn't need to be ring-fenced, it almost certainly has. Google seem to be taking the approach of getting authorisation for the charge early - whether it's a CC or bank account - and then actually applying the charge when it's ready to ship.

I'm paying by debit card, and did have an authorisation applied at the beginning - they can only hold it for 7 days at a time. In fact this has been my biggest beef with the debacle - that all their talk is of not charging until it's shipping and only making $1 authorisations, when in fact they authorise the full amount, in our case with no intention of actually applying the charge on the original authorisations, since they had no intention of shipping for months. I only found this out when I decided to cancel a 1-2 week order in order to conserve money for Christmas shopping, only to find that Google had already ring-fenced the money regardless and kept it ring-fenced for a further week.

I'm quite hopeful that last night's authorisations are a good sign, but based on what we've had happen already it's definitely by no means a certain indication that Google are suddenly going to sort it all out.
[Nexus 4 General] E-nr:
Indeed, it seems quite unlikely that all the people here with order dates ranging from 4th Dec to early Jan or whatever would be getting theirs in a week if Google adheres to its stated first-come-first-serve policy.
[Nexus 4 General] FrankBullitt:
Just spoke with my friend in Cambridge (who purchased the phone for me) and my phone still has the 5th of December date on the playstore (no date change since).

My usual luck, i guess.. :(
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Depends on how big a batch of phones they have ready somewhere to despatch.
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
I suspect the bottleneck this time won't be the size of the batch, but actually getting them packed and labelled up and then applying the charges etc. I can't imagine they would have had the foresight to have all that ready before the batch arrived.
[Nexus 4 General] E-nr:
Right you are, my dear Watson, but my point is it'd have to be a pretty massive batch by historical standards to serve all these back orders. Do we know who distributes these things? Does it all go through Google (i.e. LG -> Google -> retail)?
[Nexus 4 General] daffyduck2602:
Will go through logistics company (tnt possibly - probably through a shared service arrangement) then maybe another carrier to home
[Nexus 4 General] ifti_a:
well i thought it was like, LG to Computer2000 or somthing, with Google UK getting all the numbers after LG dispatch them.
[Nexus 4 General] teox_:
guys, did you get the shipping email or just the wallet's one?? and the money left your cards?
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
I'm not aware of anyone having got a shipping email; some haven't got the wallet one; but most have had the money authorised (but not charged) on their cards/accounts.
[Nexus 4 General] capt_carl:
I've not had any emails, details have changed on the Play Store, but also I can't check the credit card for money being authorised crappy Santander credit card. :(

Just got to keep everything crossed.

5th December, 19:35, 5-6 Weeker.
[Nexus 4 General] E-nr:
I'm talking about distributors such as Brightpoint (http://www.brightpoint.com/) - AFAIK, at least in the Nordics, phones usually go manufacturer (e.g. Apple) -> distributor (Brightpoint) -> retail (CPW)/logistics (TNT). Usually when **** like this goes down (I had a similar experience buying a Nokia N900 three years back) somebody knows somebody at Brightpoint who leaks info on shipment status.

Of course, I dunno whether Google actually uses Brightpoint.
[Nexus 4 General] j0ff:
I believe it's computer2000
[Nexus 4 General] coloxim:
i didn't undestand.....someone recived email from google?
[Nexus 4 General] jayjay2244:
Anyone know how to get a new micro sim fast from three? i called them and they said they could send one out but it would take upto 5 days and once its dispatched my current sim will be deactivated. Can i just go in store? plus will it cost? Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] siwilkins:
Some people received an email from Google Wallet, saying their payment details had been updated. A superset of these (it seems to be most UK folks) had the date column on their "My Account" page update to yesterday's date, and an authorisation (not a charge!) for the full amount on their card/account.
[Nexus 4 General] capt_carl:
I had the same problem except they didn't tell me that. They just said it'll be £5. I stupidly said yeah.

Next day my phone wouldn't work and was completely useless for 5 days all the while I've paid £5 for the privilege.. set of bell ends!