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[Nexus 4 General] _thunderchild_:
The classic plan is cheaper for the phone but more expensive for the plan.

The value plan is cheaper for the plan but more expensive for the phone.

You pay $350 (the last I check) for the classic plan because t mobile priced it at $500 for the full price.

For the value plan theres a promo right now you pay 149 down, you get a $150 rebate and you pay $20 for 20 months
[Nexus 4 General] trees247:
I believe if tmo keep shipping these phones their gonna unlock LTE on this phone to show us how good LTE is on the network any thoughts...or just my way of looking at this..Galaxy Note 2 is LTE ready......
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
Is it from switching between 3G and HSPA? I searched several forums and everything I was told and found said that this was intentional. When your phone on a TMo plan isn't using data it drops to 3G and when you start using it again it switches to H and back to 3G. This was causing me connection errors constantly and I would have always have to resend my initial transmission. This is the reason (one of the reasons) my N4 has been sitting in my desk and I've gone back to my VZW phone....
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeeunix:
my coworker had a similar issue on his nexus 4, especially when first using mobile data after having used wifi. our local t-mobile corporate store told him to enable data roaming, as tmo broadcasts as two separate network operators. also, make sure you select "choose automatically" as your preferred network if you're poking around in the network operators setting. (while i suposed that's a possible explanation, as i do see two separate "t-mobile" networks when i look at settings>wireless more>mobile networks>network operators, i haven't duplicated his problem, so i can't verify that change actually fixes his issue.)
[Nexus 4 General] ibarra21:
Does anyone know when ALL Tmobile stores will get the new stock of Nexus 4 this month?
[Nexus 4 General] floppyears:
No idea. Your best bet is to keep tabs on tmonews
[Nexus 4 General] dr.devman:
Some stores actually have a few? where do you live? in houston i know a couple of stores.
[Nexus 4 General] XxSilent22xX:
I have a nexus on backorder so as soon as it ships I will post back here to let y'all know.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ibarra21:
I live in Sugar Land. I called all 5 tmo stores near my area said they're out of stock of N4s.
[Nexus 4 General] dr.devman:
The one in spring and bellaire had some in stock 2 days ago. But I live in clear lake
[Nexus 4 General] ibarra21:
I'll try searching in the Houston area. Thanks by the way!
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
...am I the only one who doesn't CARE about T-Mobile's LTE? HSPA+ is just fine, I don't need to be enabling another radio to kill my battery any quicker...
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Man just switched to T-Mobile my bill is 100 dollars vs 200 on sprint and I have real data speeds. Sprint data is pure crap.
[Nexus 4 General] stud_muffler:
Has anyone tried $70 Unlimited all no caps prepaid yet?

:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
LTE doesn't kill your battery any quicker. ANY radio that is constantly hunting for a signal kills your battery. So if you have LTE enabled but are in a weak LTE area or no coverage area it will kill your battery. Same with 3G or HSPA+. If you're in a weak coverage area or no coverage they will kill your battery just as fast.

I don't think most people care about T-Mobile's LTE vs HSPA+; for most people it's T-Mobile's coverage area that is the concern. I could live with HSPA+ if I knew I'd have a signal in 1/2 the places Verizon has a signal.
[Nexus 4 General] playya:
I agree with you... HSPA+ is just fine for me especially since my speeds range over 15mbps most of the time. Everything I need to stream works just fine and I tether to my tablet without an issue. Now if LTE brings better coverage like you said then I would be open arms as well.

---------- Post added at 11:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

Google does! :D- http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/rumo...iving-nexus-4-inventory-as-early-as-tomorrow/
[Nexus 4 General] Rod3:
There are more benefits to LTE. LTE allows for lower latency and can handle more concurrent data traffic providing greater efficiency.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Just received my $50 T-Mobile rebate for the N4 upgrade in Nov. Cool

Also heard Vegas will be getting tmobile LTE in next few weeks....
[Nexus 4 General] xcaliburpcs:
Tmobile had some in stock in Pasadena, by 225 and Pasadena blvd
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
I bought this phone thinking lte wasn't in it. I was fine with that choice but now its even better. I live in Vegas and I'm hype about the news
[Nexus 4 General] hurrpancakes:
Anyone know if the Nexus 4 supports the be HD Calling T-Mobile introduced recently? I'd imagine it does, but I can't find anything regarding the Nexus 4 itself.
[Nexus 4 General] diablos991:
I'm on the truly unlimited value plan. Costs me $50 per month after my work discount.

I'm sitting at 10gb usage 2 weeks in and still getting 12-15 Mb/s speed.
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
Neato. I'm switching to the $70/mo prepaid truly unlimited at the end of my cycle. Sick of VoIP. Screw it, still a ton cheaper then Verizon ever was.

Personally, I have to really try to pass even 1GB a month most months. I'm on WiFi at home and at work (and at most family/friends houses...). I hate thinking about it, though. If I'm on vacation or something and the hotel WiFi sucks, I can suck up the 5GB plan in a single night. That peace of mind is worth the extra $10 over the 2GB plan to me.
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
Anyone in Las Vegas area should try forcing Nexus 4 to LTE. The market should be launched within the next two to three weeks! Could be already live and accessible for consumers!
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Been trying all day
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
i just ordered a nexus 4 on 1/7 through t-mobiles loyalty department and its on back order :eek:. idk when i will get it. hopefully soon. just sold my galaxy nexus to pay for my upgrade. lol
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
I keep losing signal in places I always have signal. I'm in Vegas so something is going on with the towers
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
With discount its 61 a month including taxes and fees. Wife and i both have it and pay 122 total. Absolutely love it

Sent from my often RMA'd Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Unclean009:
I don't think HD Voice is working. I called my friends gs3 and it didn't sound any different
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Do you need to change anything in the APN? I have LTE/GSM enabled from the test menu. Oh yeah, I'm in Vegas. Lol. Only thing that can use improving is upload speed, really. Other than that, I get anywhere from 6mb to as high as 25mbps on HSPA+ 42.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Southwest

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] meriko:
nvm...will post on the prepaid thread.
[Nexus 4 General] Rivermind:
I've never been throttled (same plan). I was the under the assumption that for all plans except the no throttling unlimited data plans they don't redirect your web traffic. If that's changed.. well, crap.

They're probably sniffing your web traffic for your browser's user agent. I know they will redirect web traffic if they catch you using the desktop Chrome user agent with their unthrottled plans, but I've heard success from people who switched to Firefox on the desktop, or by changing Chrome's user agent. Another way to easily get around this is to use a VPN. This way, all your traffic (not just HTTPS web traffic) will be sent encrypted over T-mobile's network and they will have no way to tell what kind of device the request came from.
[Nexus 4 General] meriko:
Oh, that might be it. I use firefox myself, but was helping a friend on his laptop and used chrome, then when I came back to use my laptop, I got the redirect. So, outside of getting VPN, how can I get back to tethering (i'm using firefox, but it still redirects now)?
[Nexus 4 General] Rivermind:
icyzure discipline

There should be a phone number on that page they redirect you to to call them if you received the page in error, no? I'd try calling it.
[Nexus 4 General] meriko:
True, but I thought tethering on the $30 prepaid w/o having hotspot service was not technically "allow" (more of a hidden advantage if you have the right phone/app), so calling t-mo would sort of defeat the purpose. I find a few leads online, will check those out first and will call at the last resort.
[Nexus 4 General] Rivermind:
You could tell them you switched to using the Chrome app with the desktop user agent because you hate receiving special mobile sites.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
OK im up north hopefully its widespread when it drops
[Nexus 4 General] G2_Gordon_G1:
Is anyone in the Houston area experiencing a lot of dropped calls? Happens to me alot...not sure if its the phone or the network.
[Nexus 4 General] spaceman860:
Added new prepaid plans to the OP

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
T-Mobile LTE APN Settings: fast.t-mobile.com

APN Protocol: IPv4/IPv6

Check this thread out and report: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2095037
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
No connection in Vegas yet. On the southwest side anyway.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Corunir:
What? I got mine in Vegas. SW side of town. S. Rainbow and 215. They had 2. I got one.
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
He meant LTE connection in Vegas not Nexii units.
[Nexus 4 General] Corunir:
I did realize that this seconds after posting. Thought I was off in another thread.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Lol. Had mine for a month so far. I work at rainbow/215 :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Flippy125:
I keep checking 2-3 times a day for LTE connection. I've been randomly losing data connection so they're definitely working on it
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
How are you checking? Changing APN? or an app?
[Nexus 4 General] Flippy125:
I'm using the APN with HSPA (Even though it does drop me from 22Mb/s to 13) and setting it to LTE only to see if it picks up a connection. It does have a small signal to a tower (-81dbm) but there is no data or voice, emergency calls only.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Where is the rest of the apn?
[Nexus 4 General] jarjar124:
It's the same as the regular APN. Lol
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I asked cause one of the APN settings is "Bearer" and the default is unspecified, and I wanted to know if it should be changed to "LTE".
[Nexus 4 General] thos25:
Sort of sucks that the GS3 owners will have to upgrade. I don't follow the GS3 but I thought I read that there is an LTE Chip in the phone, but it is disabled. I'd be pissed if I had a GS3 and had to upgrade to a new GS3.

Anyhow. I doubt I'll see LTE any time soon. The only company in town offering LTE is Verizon. Pretty sad because our town is about 130,000 not including the 22,000 kids at the university. Hell, T-Mobile doesn't even have HSPA+42 here yet. They have us listed in some press releases as having HSPA + 42 but I doubt it. I have never gotten higher than 2.3 Mb here in town. And that's on a good day. Typical speed is about 1.5-2. I don't think Peoria has it either. Springfield gets good speed at around 12 Mb.

At any rate I don't think central Illinois will be getting LTE any time soon when most of us don't even get HSPA+.
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
Hey I would be thankful if I could get 3G speeds. Look how pathetic my speeds are lol
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
Damn. Do you live in a rural area? LOL
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
Lol no I live in the desert. Haha I live in Hesperia, ca. I hate t-mobiles data speeds where I live. But I use WiFi at my house so I'm good Lol. Clearly T-Mobile doesn't care about my city being able to use data lol
[Nexus 4 General] cdd543:
Hmm interestingly I just got a message from tmo on my n4 stating that mobile hotspot will be included in Februaury in my $70 unlimited 4g plan(No contract). Now if they'd include roaming we might have a real winner.
[Nexus 4 General] Robert_W:
You have always been able to use the hotspot with the N4 on tmobile.

We have 5 N4 in stock at my store
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
well, the tmo website for prepaid says the $70 unlimited is NOT available for hotspot, but the $30 5gb plan IS ....

would be nice if they had an unlimited hotspot prepaid plan ....
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Go get em! If u want one from tmobile.com http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/01/23/the-nexus-4-is-back-in-stock-online-at-t-mobile-com-for-now/
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
I apologize if this has been answered here already, but can anyone confirm to me that the Tmobile Nexus 4 is the exact same as the version sold from the play store? As in, all the way from the software, hardware, to the packaging? Thanks a bunch.
[Nexus 4 General] immunityx:
Yes:good:
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
Ahh i see. I didn't notice you're using the Riverside server on that app.
[Nexus 4 General] Corunir:
4G LTE Network Active Las Vegas

Knucklehead I am.
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
You do realize you're on WiFi and have absolutely no cell service in those screenshots, right? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] Corunir:
No i'm stupid. Lol just been messing with it all day. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
Then post PhoneInfo SS when you're connected to LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] Flippy125:
I have a feeling LTE won't be switched on until sometime next month
[Nexus 4 General] bradm23:
I am currently on VZW and really want to buy a Nexus 4 and switch to a T-Mobile prepaid plan. I was looking at this webpage (http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans) and I have a few questions regarding what is best for me.

Even though the 30/month Unlimited data plan looks tempting, I am going to need more voice minutes and I do not want to have to use VoIP or similar to make calls with. So I am planning on using this plan until I decide that I can make the full switch from VZW to T-mobile.

After this, I have a few questions between the $50, $60, and $70 plan. I see that all that varies is the amount of 4g data they allow you. Does this matter with the nexus 4 since to my knowledge the nexus 4 doesn't have 4g, or do they consider some of the HSDPA + bands "4g"?

Thanks for helping me with these questions, I am just seeing on which plan might be best for me and if "4g data" doesn't matter then obviously the $50 plan would make most sense.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
They consider HSPA+ to be 4g
[Nexus 4 General] bradm23:
That sucks. Guess that answers my question, thanks for the reply!!!
[Nexus 4 General] spaceman860:
Its almost lte i get 15-20 mb down 4mb up

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
I highly recommend T-Mobile but it all depends on where you live. For example, I'm in Seattle, where our HSPA+21 speeds are better than AT&T's LTE, and coverage is excellent, so it makes sense for me. We have HSPA+42 here, and LTE is not far away.

I recommend you check T-Mo's web site for coverage maps. A little-known fact about T-Mo is that the coverage maps you see on their site are actually the engineer's maps, showing actual coverage. This is in sharp contrast to AT&T, Verizon and Sprint, whose maps are created by the marketing department.
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
can someone answer a question really quick please? I want the nexus 4 and my full upgrade is next Friday Feb 8th. Right now its $199 to upgrade. Ive already called t mobile twice now and asked what will the price go to on Feb 8th and they cant give me a number.Really frustrating! lol If its not a huge discount Ill just get it now and not risk the phone being out of stock.Has anyone upgraded to the nexus 4 through tmobile with a full upgrade? what did you pay? thanks
[Nexus 4 General] XxSilent22xX:
Full 2yr upgrade, $200 phone + $18 upgrade + shipping, this was Nov 14th when I ordered.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
so in actuality the price isnt going down past $200 for an upgrade whether it be partial or a full upgrade. This is what I thought, im not sure why they couldnt just say that. Ordering now.
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
I paid 249 (but I get a 50 dollar mail in rebate) + 49 bucks in tax. They give me a credit for the shipping and waved the upgrade fee. After the rebate it will only cost me 249. That's with a full 2 year upgrade.
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
its out of stock on tmobile......for the record if anyone else is in my boat. the prices are as follows

full upgrade ( meaning least at 22 months have passed since their last phone upgrade.)

Price is $200 w/ 2 yr extension (not counting fees)

partial upgrade

Price is $349

why the 3 phone reps I spoke with couldnt just say that is beyond me.

Oh well I guess Ill be calling my local tmobile to see if they have any in stock. fml
[Nexus 4 General] saldebot:
Paid $200 and fees waived including shipping thru loyalty department. Waived all the fees because I'm a customer since 2000.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Same here since 2005, plus taxes minus $50 rebate came to about $175.
[Nexus 4 General] bmwjnky:
I didn't go through all 500something posts but here is my situation. I got tired of not having a pure vanilla android phone and my sisters phone broke so I sold my S3 to her and got a N4 from the T-mobile store since I didn't have another phone to use. Could I order another N4 from the play store throw my sim in it and return my N4 I got from the T-mobile store minus their restocking fee? I got the phone 2 1/2 days ago so I should have the second N4 before the 30 day trial is up. This would save me the extra $20 a month plus I could buy out my contract and go to the $30 prepaid if I wanted. I know this is kind of a lot of money up front but in about a year on the $30 plan I'd have most/all my upfront costs back.
[Nexus 4 General] juicyjones:
Yes. The one they sell is the exact same one Google sells.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
I got it for $9.99 from TMO loyalty.

$250 originally posted - $50 TMO rebate, $100 instant discount, $90 on bill credit.

Ordered it on January 23rd.
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
for those of you who have gotten fees waived how many attempts did it take you through loyalty? Ive been with tmobile for at least 5 years. Do I threaten to leave or just ask for it? thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
I've called them 4 times since November. All of those times I asked when they were going to have the iphone.

When I was ready to leave, that was when the Nexus 4 came back in stock. She told me that it literally came in two minutes ago, and so she called me (last spoken to her a month before).
[Nexus 4 General] bogdi1988:
@juicyjones

I live in Seattle also and as much as I love T-Mobile, I got to say that it's a bit spotty... I drive up on i5 and I get dropped calls all the time... Always in the same spots... Before downtown, after downtown... There's a few places...
[Nexus 4 General] bartcrusades:
To those of you who are currently on an Unlimited Nationwide 4G plan, is it actually unlimited 4G, or do they throttle you at some point?
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
5gb 4g then 2g
[Nexus 4 General] SWOLEGASM:
It shouldn't be throttled anymore. The 5gb 4g then 2g throttling is for a different plan amirigh?
[Nexus 4 General] bartcrusades:
Even the one that says Unlimited 4G? (Not the ones with 10gb, 5gb, 2gb, etc)

Like when looking at the value plan selection, there is a choice there that just states Unlimited Nationwide 4G.
[Nexus 4 General] SWOLEGASM:
I'm pretty sure there's no throttling on the plan you're looking at.
[Nexus 4 General] bartcrusades:
Alright, thanks man.
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
The $70/month plan has no throttling, it's truly unlimited 4G.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] resynx:
Anyone else having a problem receiving text messages? A lot of text messages that my friends send me never arrive. Mainly just from one number though.. T-Mobile tried 'refreshing' my network, whatever that means, and it didn't fix it. They told me to go get a new sim card because maybe mine is scratched.. But just wondering if anyone else had this problem? Will probably go today but I kind of doubt it's the sim card..
[Nexus 4 General] adrian-O:
Bought mine from Google play store for $300 + tax. Prepaid tmobile and have never been happier.
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
Does anyone know if you can take your T-Mobile pre-paid phone SIM card with the $70 unlimited plan and put it in a T-Mobile 4G hotspot?
[Nexus 4 General] mrbkkt1:
It's actually slower than 2g. You still use the 4g signal, but it literally slows to a crawl. I hit it once, when I moved homes, and had no broadband for 3 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] adrian-O:
Also T-Mobile doesn't throttle anymore if you have an unlimited plan. They stopped subsidizing phones to work on overall service and true unlimited data is one of the nice features back.
[Nexus 4 General] spaceman860:
Nexus 4 on sale for $49 until Feb 18th

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
I get way lower speeds then on my s3. Both on tmo
[Nexus 4 General] bartcrusades:
Switched back to T-Mobile after I cancelled sprint and it feels amazing having these great speeds!
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
My full upgrade is today....heh. Im calling them on my lunch break. See if I can get that price.
[Nexus 4 General] jtw78:
Which SIM cards work for the $30 prepaid?

I ordered the micro-SIM kit from T-Mobile.com over a week ago and I'm still waiting with no sign of when it'll arrive. Keeping my Sprint plan is costing me $40/week (family plan) - I need to hurry up and cancel Sprint so I can start saving money. Can I just go get the same kit from Walmart and still use the $30 prepaid plan? I'm willing to eat the $2 I paid T-Mobile so I can save the $40 a week.
[Nexus 4 General] Stempanssi:
Hey! My relative is going to NY next month and I was thinking that maybe he could bring me this phone with him here to Finland.

What would be the best place to buy this from?

I do not think play store is possible as they have no US credit card.

So is T-Mobile the only reseller?

Could you list different resellers and the price for them? I mean NO contract...
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
Hmm.

1) Tmo is more expensive, over $100 USD more than play store.

NOT SURE BUT .....

In USA, you can "buy" credit / debit cards with cash on them, a Western Union store sells them I know, Walmart may also. You give the store say $500, (or any other amount) and they give you a "visa debit card" with $500 on it. You can then use that card like a normal visa card, up to the $$ you put on the card. I'm not sure, but, perhaps your relative could get one of these types of cards, and then order from the play store? (I know these cards work in stores and gas stations, I don't know if they work for mail order)

A little more risky, you can try the craigslist from the city the realitve will be in, sometimes people will sell a brand new phone there for cash. For example:

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/sea...tView=&query=nexus&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=

Good luck!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
On sale for $50 for new customers.

http://androidandme.com/2013/02/sma...50-sales-estimates-inch-past-1-million-units/
[Nexus 4 General] noneone:
He's in Finland, and needs a phone no contract, the $50 deal is for a 2 year contract .....
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Right, just like I mentioned, "New customers". I didn't mean to quote him, I was just letting people know about it, not him necessarily.
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
Best buy is the cheapest contract free retailer after Google play. Starting Sunday they are giving a $50 best buy gift card with any smartphone. They sell it for $500, if I remember correctly....you can use the gift card towards accessories, but not for the phone itself.
[Nexus 4 General] N3Ti:
I have used att unlocked, t-mobile unlocked and international smartphone on $30/mo plan.
[Nexus 4 General] trineomorph:
Have you personally used an unlocked phone on the $30 plan? I've used an unlocked Nokia n9, galaxy note and (currently) galaxy nexus on the Tmobile $30 plan. It works flawlessly.