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[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
Yeah never understood why they do that.. Store full of plastic dummies.. like I'm going to buy a phone based on what a model of it looks like. In pretty display cases, too.. Not just O2 but CPW and EE do it as well.

I think it's a new trend - when I was last into buying phones (last year, around Galaxy Nexus release date) I'm sure they had real ones.

Price wise, it's 100 quid extra for getting it tomorrow instead of <insert century here>. If I thought there was any hope of the play store being able to ship before the new year I'd have waited.
[Nexus 4 General] g47:
Let me give some ''info'' on the bumpers.

Ordered a bumper on the 15th, the site was showing on stock (obviously).

My google wallet showed the order as ''pending''.

Emailed google on the 21st.

On the 22nd i get this reply:

Hi .....,

Thank you for contacting Google Play support.

"Within 3 weeks" is the only guidance I can provide at this time. I’ll only know the scheduled delivery date when you receive an email notification that your order has shipped.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Regards,

Bufkin

The Google Play Support Team

I email google again on the 26th.

I get this answer:

Hi *they spelled my name WRONG here!),

Thank you for contacting Google Play support.

Your order will be shipping shortly. Thank you for your patience and we appreciate your order.

Thanks,

Mabel

The Google Play Support Team

So I email once more this reply:

Thank you for your answer but this is not an answer really.

What does shortly mean?

This day, this week?

Thanks.

And I get this answer:

Hello......,

Thank you for contacting Google Support, I apologize about the delay. I can understand how this issue could be frustrating, but I hope I am able to answer all of your questions!

Rest assured that Nexus 4 Bumpers orders are being delivered based on the order in which they were received. Due to overwhelming demand we sold out of Nexus 4 Bumpers extremely quickly.

If you have any other questions/concerns, feel free to reply to this email or call into 855-836-3987.

Thank you for being a Valued Google Play Customer.

Regards,

Monika

The Google Play Support Team

This is just a joke.

I ask WHEN is ''shortly'' and they answer to me something completely different which is that orders are delivered based on the order in which they were received (which is NOT the case but I can not explain that, considering that they are not even able to answer a simple question).

And yes...still waiting for that ''shortly'' to end.
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
I ordered a bumper last night even though I'm still waiting to order the phone. Figured I might as well get at least one order out of the way.

They confirmed 3-5 days I figure its a typo and they meant weeks/months.
[Nexus 4 General] bertracoon:
You mean the plastic dummy phones rather than the staff? ;) Totally agree about the phones, the o2 store only had dummies, how can you evaluate the materials, the feel in the hand and the OS without using a fully working model? I'm going to get SIM only, but a smartphone can easily be a £800 commitment over a couple of years. I wouldn't spend that without having seen what I'm getting. Having said that, I've basically made up my mind I'm buying one anyway! Will try some bigger stores in Manchester.
[Nexus 4 General] isangelous:
It says 16GB in the description and the features page (under General).
[Nexus 4 General] rogueblade:
What are the odds of getting one of these from the play store before 2012 is over?
[Nexus 4 General] Makaijin:
I think I'm at a point where i just want Google play to just open the store for pre-orders. Because the last thing I need is another F5 spam frenzy. I'm willing to wait for stock, but forcing me to constantly check the play store makes me feel like a kid fighting to be in front of the queue for some candy.
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Great impressions from me so far, some basic thoughts after an hour or so

Hardware

My Nexus 4 is built great, seems to be no creaks, rattles or anything else physically wrong. It destroys my launch One X which had screen flex, rattles, mis-aligned camera and just felt terribly built.

Not really done any camera tests, but I'm sure it's the usual camera affair - Okay for some snaps here and there, don't be expecting a digital camera replacement.

Screen is definitely tamer than AMOLED, and even my One X. I quite like it, it does seem natural, but if tweaking can come in kernels I wouldn't mind approaching One X levels of saturation, but NEVER AMOLED. 100% not an issue though, the resolution and screen estate is fantastic, and all in colour issues blown out of proportion.

Software

IMO you cannot get better than AOSP. With such an easy to unlock bootloader as well jumping to CM/AOKP is a breeze. Absolutely destroys my One X here, it was locked down and required lots of dev work to rework drivers and hack things together. Jelly Bean, and then 4.2 once the bugs are ironed out are simply the best for any Android phone, and being the official Google device no waiting 3 months for HTC to add some bloated interface.

I'm using AOKP right now, I simply love being able to customize and resize the navigation bar! (it's a little big by default, make it smaller for more screen real estate)

Delighted with my phone, it's worth the wait guys, and I beg most of you not to be silly and pay over the odds - It feels even better having a phone like this for £239 (I bought 8GB, I use Google Music). I would 100% recommend anyone with a One X changes.
[Nexus 4 General] 007xico:
Does anyone knows if I can a replacement online or has to be in store?

I bought in store and I already went back twice to the shop to get it replaced but both times couldn't get it replaced because the store manager told me that rattle is normal so there is no fault. And both time the same guy was there :banghead:

I just don't want an argument and I find it easy to get it delivered.

My nexus actually has 3 faults that are rattle (a lot of it), buzzes can be heard during calls and on the top right has screen bleeding, very visible when watching dark videos.

The phone is fantastic but shouldn't have this faults and they are annoying.

For how long can we have it replaced by o2?
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Try contacting lg, if they agree its faulty they should be able to supply an RMA code you can give to O2 when you take it in.
[Nexus 4 General] letom:
This is the exactly what I was looking for! I'm typing this on my one x with an old version of cynogen (alpha) simply because I was fed up with my one x.

It's really sad about the one x, it's left a bitter taste with me with regards to HTC , I don't dislike it, it's an amazing phone, but those little things like no s off, creaking, tegra 3 (worst cpu ever) were just a bit too much to handle.. My nexus is coming tomorrow, and I know that the screen won't be at good but just looking around the development forums makes me think it'll be do worth it :) AOSP here I come!!
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
@007xico

You need to go back and insist on an exchange. Insist. And don't leave until you get one. It is the shops obligation to provide you a with perfectly working model. That is the contract they entered when you handed over your money and they gave you a receipt. Explain the problems again. Tell them you have spoke to LG and LG have told you it needs replacing. (That's what i said see bottom)

ANYTHING bought in a shop that is faulty can be exchanged. There is no time limit (even up to/ over 1year!) The '7day period' has nothing to do with faulty items.

It is the retailers responsibility to exchange it. Not Google/LG.

The only possible problem is that you have to be able to prove the product was in the same state/ had same problems when you bought it.

My little story -

I bought from o2 PAYG on day 1. My N4 had volume toggle rattle. I spoke to LG a few times to investigate (and to log the problem with them as proof) When I went back and exchanged my N4 the o2 store manager tried to first talk me out of it- then made out he was doing me a favour by 'allowing' me to exchange it (after 9days)! After the disgusting, rude and indifferent service i received when I first purchased my N4 I had great pleasure in shooting him down with consumer rights facts in front of his staff. +the fact by exchanging I'd just depleted his precious N4 stock by 50% + I'd done him out of 2 contract commission opportunities in a week. :D And I'm also seriously debating whether to go back and share the good news about my new TV lol. :D
[Nexus 4 General] pichu23:
how come i did not see that :(

thanks :D
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
There are perfectly stable official CM10 nightlys for the HOX
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
HTC didnt put S-OFF on the One X for a very good reason.
[Nexus 4 General] CrazyPeter:
Most of that is incorrect.

You only have the right of replacement for 30 days from purchase. After that, the retailer only has to offer a repair.

The specific problem is going to be a tough one, It's upto you to prove to unit does not meet specifications. The retailer insists it's whthin spec, you think it's not. Who is right??? If it were more clearcase, like the unit turning off, then it's obvious that it's a problem. If LG genuinely told you that it's wrong, then this should be sufficient, however you will need it in writing, or some form of LG communication/contact/reference number.
[Nexus 4 General] @home:
Not much in it as as the screen goes, the HOX has but it tight. It wasn't enough to make me keep the HOX+. It's gone & I really don't think I'll ever get a HTC again.
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
The number 30 days doesn't exist in law. Precisely because it makes no sense - you don't have 30 days to return a bottle of milk, for example. The law says reasonable time. Also, after the reasonable time has passed you've deemed to have accepted the goods (had time to examine them for faults, etc.) and, the seller can offer only repair, yes, but only if that can be done in a reasonable time - so offering to take a month to repair a phone for example could potentially be unreasonable and the buyer would then be entitled to a refund.

The vagueness of all this is how solicitors earn so much money :p
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Most of what is incorrect? You just repeated what i said. I just didn't mention 30day+ repair. Would they really try to fix his screen bleed in his case? I think not.

007xico just needs to go back to the shop and lay down the law. Don't let the o2 mugs mug you off.
[Nexus 4 General] Androll79:
Morning, I was there at 8am on release day sat in front of my pc with my nexus 7 and laptop trying to buy the nexus 4, Like the majortiy got it in my basket but failed to checkout!!!!

Fed up now, My nexus s is on it way out with a slow painful death and want to update it and start a new affair again with google, But here's the dilema, Do i hold out for it to come on play store and try again and hope that the uk will have better shipping time than the US or go to CPW and spend 389.99 on and trade in the Nexus s for 60 quid that way it's only 50quid more but i have it in hand today?

Does anyone have a rough guess as to when we can buy from the store, I cannot find any infomation.

Any help is greatful
[Nexus 4 General] ajsuk:
UK bumpers availability update

I ordered a bumper last weekend (UK play showing them as in stock and delivered within 3-5 days as everyone else has experienced)

After reading on here I emailed them 2 days later to ask why my order showed as pending. I got a fairly basic response saying it would be shipped that evening - which obviously it wasn't.

Emailed them again last night (still showing as pending) and received the following response last night at 8:10pm (American customer services centre maybe?)

So it looks like "within 3 weeks" for UK bumpers has now become "within 2 weeks" - I guess thats the "shortly" time frame g47. I have emailed them back to ask them to waive the shipping cost, yet to hear back though.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
@Androll

Maybe look at it like this... If the Nexus 4 is back available before Xmas you will have paid £15 a week for the privilege of getting it today. Do YOU think its worth it? Can you justify it?

If its after Xmas the cost extra per week spreads out so it starts looking a lot more attractive. And- its much less hassle for you not worrying about delivery etc. which is also worth something.

That's the maths i did to buy from the ****ehawks at o2 on day 1... But then i won a TV so now I don't give a ****. Go buy it today. :D
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
I really doubt anyone ordering now is going to get one before Christmas.. Mid January maybe, possibly even February - the 8gb is on 8 weeks delivery time in the US.

If google had any stock to fulfill these orders they wouldn't be talking about such crazy numbers. It seems to me they not only don't have any stock, they don't have hope of any stock in Europe otherwise they'd have opened the play store for preorders here too.
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
Same here, and my problem is that i come back in italy for christmas the 20th. so I decided to wait until next week to see if something show up in the playstore otherwise i'll go to CPW. I want to spend my money!
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
Not strictly the correct thread I know but.....

Have any of you with an O2 phone got the 4.2.1 update yet, as all my Nexus devices have updated and my N4 has not yet received notification.

Just wondering if by supplied by O2 makes a difference?

Cheers

Baz
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
In settings. Go to manage apps, all apps, clear Google Services Framework data.

Try updating again. :cool: edit(settings, about phone, update)
[Nexus 4 General] rickykemp:
Mine is finally out for delivery. Thanks for the company guys, its always better to suffer with others than suffer alone!

FYI it was ordered 13th @ 08:28, so good luck to the rest of you lot if you are still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] ajsuk:
Got my 4.2.1 update on the day it came out. I have an O2 N4
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
Guys I just received N4 just over an hour ago, so far everything looks good. No signs it been opened or used prior. Also I got the phone without a shipping email or tracking info. I just had some hints that the phone was already shipped to TNT when I spoke to the Google agent yesterday.

Couple of things, no BUMPER along with my order which I placed together. Google have given up trying to ship them together. So atm the bumpers are out of stock, don't believe a word otherwise. I just don't how hard can it be to make more bumpers, I mean it's probably the cheapest and easiest thing they can produce.

Anyway, in the end what really matters is phone and I got a pouch for the interim, so its at least some form of protection. I wanted them to ship them separately, asked for it a few times, each time I was met with incompetent CSR staff who said otherwise.

I would suggest to give them a call to see what is happening and if you have multiple items in your order check to see if they are sending it out separately. Just pure relief and nothing else. I hope the rest of you guys get yours soon.
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
Gah I hate waiting.. Waiting for mine from O2.. it's 'before 10:30' so of course I've been camping the front door since 8am :p

Now it's nearly 10am and I'm getting anxious!
[Nexus 4 General] ghalalb:
I went to CPW, and am more than happy to have paid the extra now that I have the phone. Sure it might show up in GP tomorrow, and I'll kick myself a little, but let's be honest it doesn't look like it will. Once I read the possible 4 to 8 weeks delivery time on the US thread my mind was made up.

I have the phone, and it's a joy.

I came from the S2, and I've been a CyanogenMod flasher for all previous phones, so I've been moving to a purist AOSP for a while, it no longer seemed worthwhile buying phones with manufacturers take on Android. I was always going to buy this phone, I was sick of checking online for any scrap of news that GP would restock. I had a good experience with the lady at CPW who sold me the phone, she talked about the device being on ebay for stupid money, she asked me if I was sure I didn't want to wait for GP stock to come online as it was a lot cheaper, and crucially she even mentioned that they didn't expect more stock at CPW anytime soon.

and here's one last thing that made up my mind, a friend does business with CPW, he got inside word they have no stock at their central distribution.

Don't let this be your decider though, it was mine, it could be inaccurate. But I have my phone and am happy.
[Nexus 4 General] sychare:
I'm in the same boat. 16GB was waiting for me at my office this morning, no shipping email, and Play status hasn't changed from Complete(phone)/Pending(bumper), yet no bumper. Going to have to pop into town to see if I can get something to use as a temporary measure!
[Nexus 4 General] znanev:
So Google has the most inconsistent CSR staff. I phoned them at least 3 time this week with exactly same request each time - REMOVE the f**in' bumper from my order and ship the phone!! But every time they claim that they cannot modify my order, some claim that there are no bumpers, some claim that everything looks fine and will ship all items soon. To be honest I'm too fed up with Google's customer support or more precisely lack of such. I seems that it is still worth to bug them until I get someone willing to ship the damn phone only and leave this bumper.
[Nexus 4 General] rogueblade:
£350 for a 8gb....bad idea?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
To add to the above. It's sellers responsibility to prove that it is NOT inherited manufacturing fault up to 6 months. If they CAN prove it, they don't have to exchange it. After 6 months, it is YOUR responsibility to prove that fault is inherited. But when fault is not inherited but a developed one, then warranty steps in.
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
Still waiting here. Starting to get annoying not having it :(
[Nexus 4 General] olihunt:
Same here. No email, no nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] lombardo8:
Too expensive. Check your PM
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
Yep, I encountered the same sheer unwillingness and lack of flexibility to amend the order or remove the bumper so it leads nowhere with these people. I gave up on that, so instead asked if is likely to still be shipped this week as outlined by the email, what's really happening to my order etc. The good thing is that it should be only matter of time now that they started shipping them separately.

Samsung galaxy nexus and HTC One X are close in size dimensions, I got HOX pouch and it fits perfectly.

That's not really the parameter of procedure anymore as there is a few of us that have received the phone without shipping email/tracking number. My Google Playstore still shows pending and Google Wallet is not updated either.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
I did doubt paying the extra, but once I got it I thought sod it I'm keeping it, I did get a TV from o2 but how easy it was to buy it from them I had decided in my mind that this was staying with me TV or not.

It is alarming me that they can't even produce the bumpers though, surely it's just moulded plastic, cheap and easy to produce in mass yet they are struggling
[Nexus 4 General] hmethven:
I have tried to update and it's not working, I did those steps you said and it still isn't working. Stuck on 4.2 :(

Any other tips?
[Nexus 4 General] mavronn:
Was there any other sign that your phone was being shipped, like your account being debited?
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Has anyone had an order delivered which includes a bumper yet? its an absolute farce!

I got the, you'll have your phone this week email, which I no longer believe.
[Nexus 4 General] adjuk84:
Sideload it through adb see the N4 general forums for how to's. Took me 5 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Sideload it via ADB in recovery.
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Considering cpw myself. Figure with quidco cashback its only 89 quid extra for the 16 gb with overnight delivery.

Anyone have experience of aftersales with them. Will i have a hard time with warranty issues etc
[Nexus 4 General] sidhaarthm:
Ditto. I am one of the unfortunate souls who was on holiday during the N4 launch. I comforted myself by thinking that I will order a couple of days after it is launched, and it will be delivered to my work address by the time I get back to London. What the hell was I thinking....??

Anyway, even I am strongly considering getting one from CPW. I have set myself a deadline until next Thursday (that is the max I can wait, about 4 weeks since official launch). At that point, I will walk into the store and get one off the shelf. My worry is the same as yours - replacements, warranty issues + another concern is about stock! I read someone's response earlier (another person who bought from CPW) that they are not expecting more stock anytime soon. Luckily for me, one of the stores close to work (not disclosing the location in case somebody snaps it before I do!!) does have the N4 in stock.

Very indecisive at this point... :-/
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Stores near me have no stock to reserve. Thinking order now get tomorrow.

Hmm decisions.
[Nexus 4 General] warr3n:
I'm on my second Nexus 4 from from Carphone Warehouse, the first they replaced without any issues.

I returned the device due to poor voice quality both talking directly ito the phone (too quiet) and more importantly over bluetooth (ltoo much distortion).

Unfortunatelty my second phone has the same issues and I hope the well documented bluetooth issues are resiolved with the next software update.
[Nexus 4 General] wbbigdave:
Is the Cashback at CPW in store cashback or online only. I know quidco do 3% online but not sure about in store.
[Nexus 4 General] neilmunn:
I think quidco only do £3 online.
[Nexus 4 General] wbbigdave:
Yeh just saw that...
[Nexus 4 General] dan653:
open the dialer and input...

*#*#2432546#*#*
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
you can get it if you reserve online for pickup as long as they input the reservation code and don't put it through as a sale.

Can also get a whole 25p if you check in with the quidco app
[Nexus 4 General] Chicaned_UK:
For the people who've received theirs today without shipping info and they've ordered the bumper. Has the money come out of your accounts yet?

I hope they've tried to deliver mine today. I ordered a Nexus 4 16gb + bumper and a Nexus 10 32gb on the 13th @ 8.31. Been sent the mail this week to say I should receive my Nexus 4. God knows where my N10 is :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Crap, your right its 3% for accessories.

Oh well pulled trigger and ordered anyway. Stupid cc gave craud prevention call though trying to check it went through.
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
The money is still there and it will probably be for a while before they take it out. I got one part of the order, N4 16gb which was delivered this morning and like I said no shipping email or tracking nr (wallet and playstore not updated and still "pending") so atm the wait continues for the elusive bumper.
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
Does the n4 have tvout? Or other methods??

If so what are they?
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
Got the phone! It's nice! - although I've left the plastic on front & back for now!

Still need to play with things like music etc. to see how it performs.
[Nexus 4 General] znanev:
I'm in the same boat mate, the only difference in my order is that I went for the 16gb Nexus 10, all 3 items in a single order dated 13th @ 8.19.

Still nothing turned up in the office, hope they just leave the bumper and send us the N4 and N10 soon.
[Nexus 4 General] ajsuk:
Slimport for display mirroring:

engadget.com/2012/10/30/nexus-4-boasts-slimport-support

(Sorry its not a proper url, I'm too new to the forum to post links!)
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
It has SlimPort support, plus Miracast.

Miracast seems somewhat expensive to setup right now but you can get SlimPort adapters on amazon for not too much.
[Nexus 4 General] Chicaned_UK:
Thanks for the confirmation dudes.
[Nexus 4 General] ck2009:
Mine has just arrived :D

Hang in there guys.... it's worth it!