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[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
It'll be interesting tonight to see if anyone gets a shipped email, especially if backordered people do.
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
Placed my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus for sale today.

Once they go, I am done with android and Google...

Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] seaempty:
I was hoping that the email was sent out just to cover Google's arse - they knew they weren't going to get all the phones sent out by the estimated date of the 15th, so they sent a blanket email out to give them more time to deal with processing the orders.

It doesn't look that way from people's conversations with Google, and that the phone really is out of stock. And judging by the number of us who have received the backorder email in the poll, they really mucked up the overselling. How could they do it so spectacularly badly?

EDIT: Oh, and I see the bumper is still "in stock" in the Play Store. Seems strange, as they're so rare "in the wild".
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
I still haven't seen a backorder email, Still pending, No shipping information.

Holding tight for now.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
I wouldn't read into that 100%. Mine is still pending and the phone turned up yesterday.
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
I'm hoping that'll be the case with mine. But I do usually have really bad luck! :p
[Nexus 4 General] smileyanz:
Told everyone yesterday they hadn't enough and messed up with there process of ordering enough for dispatch. It came from good source.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Has the source got any info on new timescales?
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
The last I heard was "within the next three weeks." :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] jtc42:
They really have messed this up royally. So many people are looking for new phones for Christmas, and if they're not readily available by the start of December they are going to lose SO many customers. I really need a new phone soon, and if they keep up this game of tiny stock allocations I'm definitely going elsewhere. Really looking forward to the N4 but I'd its not available its not available.
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
Knowing something about warehousing and outsourced warehousing in particular.......

I think TNT are doing fulfillment and delivery.

Therefore the order time with Google is irrelevant.

TNT will allocate, pick and despatch according to their van routes

Can't blame them for that

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] jtc42:
But surely its still Googles job to stop orders before the stock runs out, and to ensure they have enough stock for a worthwhile launch?
[Nexus 4 General] sjgore:
Guys...

I just went to the O2 store in Leeds, and they let me try my 3 Mobile SIM in the display model, and I can confirm that

the Nexus 4 that O2 are selling is SIM UNLOCKED.

They had 1 16GB model left in stock, so I bought it. It cost me £399, but I was prepared to take the hit rather than spend the next few weeks scouring XDA for stock rumours, then wondering whether I'll actually manage to order one before stock runs out again, and then wondering when it will be delivered even if I do manage to order one.

Now to play with my new toy! :)
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
It is. But they didn't. I am taking about the chances of what most works consider fair. In order time sequence vs what is best for the 3rd party that is not just delivering. But warehousing and delivering

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
If quotes from Google employees are to be believed, they're looking at 4 weeks before play store opens again - that puts them a week before Christmas. Shipping that close to Christmas probably means getting it afterwards.

A disaster for Google, as they've missed their biggest sales period.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
I agree with this to a certain extent, although it's unclear whether there really is no more stock, or whether the 3 week email was sent out to allow enough time to trickle orders and get people off customer services' back.

We'll see tonight if anything gets sent. More interesting will be if they really don't have any stock, whether people who ordered bumpers in a separate order get them sent, as if there's no devices to pack they should be sending the accessories. Unless of course they don't and have never had any to send.
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
Nobody's got real news, especially these agents. But at least I found that these bumpers have been out of stock since Tuesday. Pretty much explains why we haven't seen anybody confirm they received shipping details for them or why the agent intimated that my order would not be involved the clearing of the backlog when I called them up couple days ago. Love Google to bits really do!
[Nexus 4 General] Joey-UK:
This is exactly what LG wanted. Low stock in the play store so people feel the need to go elsewhere and buy the phone at a higher price, ,meaning that LG get a better profit margin.

Also i think we should petition for a free wireless charging orb and/or a bumper case as compensation:good:
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
Anyone received a phone this morning that got a backorder email?
[Nexus 4 General] Mogster:
I think Google are actually subsidising the Play store sales, so LG get their money either way.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
I agree - TNT are doing the full distribution. The £9.99 we have paid is the total cost of distribution for the phone and not just postage and packing so to speak.
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
This is what I'm looking out for as well. I sent customer support yesterday asking if stock levels were the issue but haven't had a response yet. That's either because they've been flooded with complaints or they are preparing a unified response I'd imagine. Looking at the poll here though, over 50% of people who have ordered are on back order. I'd imagine this probably is a fair representation of the situation across the board. Therefore if this is a stock issue and Google allowed that many orders to be processed then it's really shocking. Fingers crossed it's just because they are struggling to send the backlog of orders out.
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
Just this minute got off the phone to Google, I pushed really hard to get answers and finally the customer service rep said that anyone who received the 3 weeks back order email , has NOT got an actual device and that they will receive their order in the next batch.

Basically they did NOT have enough stock to fullfil all the orders...:(... an absolute disgrace
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
TNT Fulfilment in Abingdon: 01235 820504

Anyone want to give them a ring and try and blag some info? :p
[Nexus 4 General] xxnoelziexx:
Done the same ordered last night online from o2, Saturday delivery before noon :) google will not be getting any money from me anytime soon till they sort it out.

Google didn't secure enough in the first place and have now oversold. Should have just gone with preorders 1st come first serve someone in the purchasing team needs the boot.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
makes me laugh if they couldn't secure enough stock of their "own" phone.
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
this
[Nexus 4 General] RichySamui:
I just got the phone from O2, unlocked for 399. They were only allowed to sell from today. This is in Ashford, a small town, so I reckon Sheffield should have them in from today too.

Ahhhhh, happy now :)
[Nexus 4 General] mys3:
if its any use to anybody, ive been in carphone warehouse this morning. selling sim free £389.99

hope it helps
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
How did you find out that the bumpers have never really been in stock?
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Any news from those whom have received a back order email and ordered only once?
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
Read back what I said in my post...:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Ahhh I really don't wanna spend an extra 100... but everyday in getting closer to doing it
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
same felling
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
at least in the uk you have the possibility of purchasing the n4 in retail stores. not possible in germany yet.
[Nexus 4 General] phemark:
Got email at last!

Tracking number says that is has already left the depot in London!

However, im at work - does anyone know if i could pick it up today after work, or tomorrow? Or would i have to wait till Monday?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] sebbo90:
Is the an option on the poll for shipped but tnt lost my parcel? Ffs :(
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
You guys are crazy buying from O2 for an extra £30 at £429.99 you can pick up the HTC One X+ with 64gb, a better screen, much better cameras, and such.

No point in paying above RRP for this.

The same monies can get you a Nokia Lumia 920 as an alternative at £399.99.
[Nexus 4 General] mouyias:
TNT doesnt deliver on Sundays and Saturdays. Monday is your day unless you get it today!
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
There is no way on Earth I'm paying £120 extra just to get mine now.

I will not pay a penny more than the price listed in the Play Store.

Just the waiting game...
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Not a Nexus. You don't get it.

People can spend their money how they like.
[Nexus 4 General] andyzarins:
Hi... I posted earlier. Managed to haggle O2 down to £360. I had to take out a simplicity contract at a cost of £13.50 per month. However, you can cancel straight away within the 7 day cooling off period. No payment will be taken for the contract. Use my case as an example say you know someone who got a 10% discount. The manager in the store authorised the discount.

Hope it helps some of you. I can confirm also these phones are unlocked.
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
I know it's not a Nexus but it's still an Android phone and I would class it better than the Nexus in terms of what it offers for the money. I know Nexus is all about the software but when your paying £100 more than the RRP your better waiting to save a £100.

And yes people can spend their own money as they wish but to me it's not worth justifying an extra £100 for it considering the RRP.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Let me pickup it up for you, I insist. ;)

If you miss your delivery they will redeliver it to you again on the same day before 6.30pm, if not they will schedule another day for you preferably Monday. What I would do it's ring your local TNT warehouse and ask them if you are able to pick it up.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
I've just been in. Not available??

No option on system??
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
if any of you peeps have ur phone and want to root, please can you try this method and advise if it works, I have rooted 3 different devices with it (not all sony btw) so would be interested if it will work on the N4.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
I have the standard Tegra 3 HOX and I'd much rather have the N4. Better processor, more ram, stock Android and much more active dev community.

Camera on the HOX is crap btw, it's just been cleverly advertised. I'm sure the HOX+ is very similar. The camera on the N4 seems comparable if not better
[Nexus 4 General] mys3:
@wolfboy. I didn't check stock levels but the sign is up next to the demo model, underneath contract price is sim free price £389.99, that was in aintree, liverpool
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
I believe that was patched on 4.1.2, so shouldn't work on 4.2
[Nexus 4 General] phemark:
Thats not good...

Can I go to their depot on Saturday and pick it up myself? Do they allow it?
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
The POS s*** might be on display. But if its not on the system they can't sell it.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
does anyone know if CPW/O2 have the bumper cases in stock?
[Nexus 4 General] mys3:
TNT depos are open late so you should be able to collect after work ( dont forget to take id)
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
???? Are you serious? Don't go near it.

Have you unlocked bootloader yet?
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
Well, they were in stock but for a very short period on Tuesday and out of stock ever since according to the Google agent. This is pretty much farcical situation as they are currently waiting on LG to produce these bumpers and there is no precise timescale on this, and the typical reply was to wait a few days for an update on the bumper situation. Should they manage to restore stock levels for N4, they won't process our orders until both items are in stock.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
bummer, I will try it anyways when I get mine, but cheers for info.
[Nexus 4 General] mys3:
Terrible service by them, as usual then
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
Why would I not be serious? I don't have the phone yet awaiting delivery. I have rooted an xperia s/desire s/S2 with it for other people. It has been previously confirmed as working on the N7. The worst its going to do it not work.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Higgsy, Just use a dedicated N4 boot loader/ root toolkit. Of which there is many...

Why would even think going near a patched and untested method? Made me chuckle.
[Nexus 4 General] 1arry1iu:
called gp and confirmed my n4 & 7 3g in the same order are both on hold, together with the bumper in the other order. the good news is they are going to waive me the shipping cost of 13.99 for the n4&7 and probably, unconfirmed yet, 5.99 for the bumper. the bad news is i'll have to wait another three weeks. the only thing the gp staff are able to confirm is whether your order is shipping, shipped or on hold. they know little else.
[Nexus 4 General] liam6576:
I posted this in the "play store orders and shipping" thread but thought it would help you guys a little.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Are tehy able to remove items from the order at all? Might ring at lunch and see if they can remove the bumper from my order in the hopes of increasing my chances of the phone being sent.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
Thats what I will do myself - however I'm just curious if it works - it is a very simple method - if it works someone may find it useful for them if they don't want to mess about with insecure boot.img/unlocking bootloader etc. If its been patched its been patched.
[Nexus 4 General] sebbo90:
Looks like I'm going to have to wait three weeks for a new phone now as well. How does TNT loose a phone grrrrr
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
It would be good to just get some kind of an idea of a date from Google regarding this. I'd like to have some idea of how long i'll be waiting for. If it's three weeks with no guarantee at that point i'll get a different phone I think.
[Nexus 4 General] Spierbal:
Good luck, I will be keen to find out what they tell you, they told me it was not possible to remove it. However, you can refuse delivery when the bumper arrives.
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
points c) & d) really concern me most :mad:

I suppose at least now I should be able to get a case & screen protector in time for it's arrival
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
Just replied to the backorder mail.

Here is what I wrote:

So, android, it was a pleasure...

Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
That really is alarming if true. Theoretically those of us who ordered on release day could find ourselves in the exact same position after the next batch comes in. Why can't they just not release to the play store until all current orders are filled?
[Nexus 4 General] oawalker:
Just got mine from o2 delivered this morning i am not sure if it's unlocked as i am on o2.

Good Times :)
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I suppose it's for the best, but I didn't get a phone from O2 in the end.

I went in and the conversation with the dude went something like this...

I was going to order one online, but they require your billing address to be the same as your delivery address. I'm a student living away from home, so this isn't the case. It's a hollow victory for me; no Nexus 4, but I'm ~£320 up from this. I'll do my best to order over the phone to a different delivery address after explaining my situation. At this rate, however, I doubt I'll get my phone until Tuesday or Wednesday. I'll try to order it this evening.[/QUOTE]

Stupid O2. This is why I hate them. :p

It is unlocked. Google wouldn't let them lock it anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] paprkut:
Why are people paying over the odds for a phone that was only revolutionary because of the price. It makes no sense, for the 400 to 500 people are paying there are better handsets out there.
[Nexus 4 General] 1arry1iu:
could do that online.

support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423477
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Effectively I'll only be paying £40 more, maximum. I'm trading loads of stuff in, including my Desire. At least that's what the original plan was.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
Just got mine. Had anyone elses box been opened and resealed? and also the cardboard in the box where the phone sits damaged. Also no charge at all in the battery? Also reminants of fingerprints on the screen

This thing reminds me of my Optimus 2x in many ways in looks. Very LG.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Welcome to Anonymous Nooboholics. My name it tinky.
[Nexus 4 General] losimagic:
That sounds bad :( . Mine was factory sealed (black tape), protective film on both sides of the phone and it was around 80% charged/
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
That's just for cancelling the entire order I believe, whereas I want them to just remove the bumper from the order. Might not bother now though, just leave it and see what happens. With all the farcical things that have happened there's every much chance that they packed multi-item orders and they're sat on the side waiting for the final item to be in stock that's missing, sounds crazy but then again so does most of what's happened thus far.

no matter what I do it's out of my hands and I can't influence it in any way other than hope it's fulfilled before they open it to general sale again.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Did you link your phone??

Bad if you haven't. Terrible in fact.
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
Just noticed the Play Store shows the bumper as in stock, when it clearly isn't judging by what people have received.
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
Uhoh, I so don't want another o2x - that thing was hideous, the only reason I'm giving LG another go is because it's Google backed, which really accounts for $hit really considering the way we have all been treated, again. Oh it's the n7 all over again
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Tonight will be the test, as if they have no more phone stock they should be shipping the bumper to those who have it on individual order. If they don't then they've either had the day off or they have no stock.
[Nexus 4 General] Barguast:
I've sent an email to Google asking if the Nexus 4 bumper is holding up my Nexus 10 order. I'll post their response here when I get it.

Also, regarding having the device linked automatically, does this mean that basically you don't have have to enter your Google account information when you first turn the device on? Because I had to, and I left the box ticked. Just an observation.
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
mine was factory sealed, however there were 2 on there of the same type one over the top of the other on each side. the one underneath had been cut. It had both protectors on.

I had seen the same damage to the inside of the box on one of the unboxing videos, but just thought the person doing it had cuased it when getting the phone out.
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Got my delivery at 10:30, just to make you all feel good!...
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
I did slect to link phone, but it isn't linked to my account I had to enter all the details at set up.

Also phone seemed to boot up very fast for a first boot.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
All you have to do is type in your password on the device's first boot. :D
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
ive just had an online chat with an 02 sales rep.

After a lenthy discussion and me telling her that she was wrong and giffgaff customers get the same network coverage as O2 customers and she shouldnt be giving out false information, she said I can have one sim free but only if I get a 12 month sim deal from them.

Poo
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Nice one, please do. I sent them an email asking the same thing yesterday but didn't receive a response.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
You shouldn't be surprised that it was not sealed then. Very shoddy they couldn't link it tho. All the signs of being rushed and under pressure to fulfill orders as quickly as humanly possible.
[Nexus 4 General] shaneydroid:
Got mine an hour ago :)

Box and phone properly sealed and all in perfect condition. 80% battery. I did set it to link to my account during order but it wasn't already set up.

Just downloading the 4.2 update now...
[Nexus 4 General] Psych0Chimp:
Just received mine but they sent the wrong one! I got the 8GB instead of the 16GB that I ordered. :eek:

Hopefully, they'll save a 16GB for me to exchange it with...
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
the phone itself is fine, no marks etc. I think someone has been into it, switched on the phone and then not actually switched it off. and then its then run out of battery. Maybe they deffed the idea of linking accounts once the volume was going mad. Its been done semi officially as the seals where exactly the same and were alligned more or less perfect with the first ones.
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
http://www.androidcentral.com/o2-uk-s-nexus-4-reportedly-sim-unlocked
[Nexus 4 General] plasmafire:
Anybody buy more than one by mistake/got the wrong phone model? I know someone who would be more than happy to take it off yours hands.. ME :)
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Google just get better and better.
[Nexus 4 General] NeostarNeko:
Anyone know when they will be back in stock on Google Play store? Cause I've got things to buy during Black Friday and I don't want to be hanging around waiting if it's gonna be in January
[Nexus 4 General] wizzywig27:
I decided to bite the bullet and purchased a 'SIM free' O2 one :D
[Nexus 4 General] shaneydroid:
Well the back order emails apparently said 3 weeks so I would assume around then?
[Nexus 4 General] Barso1:
My TNT tracking is still showing the outdated tracking number since last night.

Is there any way I can see where my phone may be?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
did you order it online?
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
Anyone know if CPW are selling SIM-FREE in store today?
[Nexus 4 General] shaneydroid:
Try checking the box that says "Customer reference". By default "Consignment number" is checked and that was giving me the wrong info.
[Nexus 4 General] Mcgtfour:
Woohoo! Had the 'backorder' email last night at around midnight and thought meh only to wake up and find an email with a tracking number on it! 4 hours later and its arrived:highfive:

Is it sad that I feel priveledged to have one of these phones?!
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
Yep...ring TNT on 0800 100 600..:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] nozzla:
Just looked at one in o2 shop. Its really not that awe inspiring. I'll be sticking with the one S. But each to their own. And no way would I pay 400 quid for one.
[Nexus 4 General] Mogster:
My local stores (Worcester) are definitely not, although someone else today said their store was.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
My local store isn't. I tried to talk them into it, but they said that it isn't possible at all. Their system won't allow it.
[Nexus 4 General] TheBishopOfSoho:
Same here. I had conflicting info from the national phoneline, they said my local one (in Chiswick, London) had 3, and was for sale for £389, so I went to the store but their system wouldnt let them sell it.

Annoyed. So then tried pver the phone again, THEIR system wouldnt let them either lol

No luck from O2 either, none in stock.
[Nexus 4 General] uberNoobZA:
Due to ordering system messup, I ordered 2 devices (separate orders). Got backorder email last night. Phone Google to ask wtf and they said as I had multiple devices on order AND a third order for a bumper, mine was on back order do they can shop single orders out first. One of them arrived this morning (it was shipped yesterday), still waiting for any shipping confirmation. What a joke this all is.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Order online with O2. I'm gonna phone, though. Delivery queries. :S

I don't live at my billing address. :(
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
lol I've got to laugh, it's just crazy.

Any movement on your bumper order?