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[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I thought that's what they were doing. Seems logical. At least you have one to use now, though. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Barso1:
I give them a call and they said they have nothing on record regarding my postcode or shipment.

I have sent Google an email asking WTF!

Google this is my first android and I jumped over from apple because of their dire maps situation but you're making it real easy to go back.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Hang in there. It'll be worth it in the end.
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Same thing happened to me, Google told me TNT had it and what happened... Shipped a couple of hours later and now I have it! Can't wait to get home!
[Nexus 4 General] vas210:
Nexus 4 In O2 store

Guys,

I just bought 1 from O2 store from Wembley High Road, they had 3 in stock that was 1 hour ago. the guy behind the counter gave me a very good deal.

I know is crazy paying £400 but I am not going to wait another 3 weeks, I just sold my SG3 and I had no phone.

Well I can sell it on ebay for 500 now..
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Tell them it's a reference number, not a consignment number. Tick 'customer reference' on the TNT tracking website, not consignment.
[Nexus 4 General] mezzyg:
What deal did they offer you if you don't mind me asking
[Nexus 4 General] :
I doubt i will get my hand on this phone this year now.

The next lot of N4's they get in will be used to clear up the back-order mess.

Meaning i will have to wait until the re-stock after the re-stock.

Even then im doubtful i will get my hand on that batch, with no system to reserve (not sure i want to after my N7 pre-order experience) or notify me (properly) when they are in stock again.

Also TNT held my N7 package for 2 days because they "didn't have time" to delver to my area on 2 different days and refused to upgrade it to priority.

I have a long wait ahead of me *SIGH*
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Don't write it off yet. They will ramp up production by a lot. Actually, I'm pretty sure they already did. But yes, it could take a month a so before it is widely available.

Welcome to Anonymous Nooboholics. My name is tinky.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
I have a friend that works at csrphone warehouse. So I asked him. He's going to get back to me on when its available sim free
[Nexus 4 General] vas210:
The original price is £400 phone + 10 topup, The guy gave me £20 topup on 2 separate sim cards, an external speaker, and internet dongle , I paid £401. All on PAYG no contract. I did not asked for that stuff but it cost me £30 quid cheaper at least...
[Nexus 4 General] Barso1:
Tried that, still nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
Just been onto o2 again, the online sales people still adamant its locked to o2 for twelve months.....
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
They have no idea what they're talking about
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
Sounds pessimistic, but I'd be surprised if I have this phone this side of Christmas. If the next batch gets hammered like the first, it's unlikley I'll be quick enough to grab one, and if the three week backorder email is true, It'll be the second week of December before the second batch gets released.
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
Which is exactly what i just said to her.... i have an old o2 payg sim, just wonder whether i can blag them so i don't have to pay the extra tenner

oh and she was trying to tell me that giffgaff only gets a limited service from o2s network.... thing is they get away with this sh!t because not everyone is tech savvy.
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
I have a feeling you will get your before all of us on back order, this was exactly what happened with the Nexus 7 people that were 'pre-order' were left waiting whilst everyone else that rocked up to the Play store whilst it was in stock got it the next day delivery
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
I second this.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Google scum
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
I've reserved one at the O2 Store in Trafford Centre and I'm going to make my mind up this afternoon. It's a lot more to pay but I'm getting an xmas bonus soon that would cover it. My S2 is playing up at the moment and my contract expires next week so was hoping to get things sorted before then. Does anyone know if I buy one and find that my vodafone SIM won't work I'll be able to return it? Not giving them reason for returning obviously :D
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
It is done.

Received this from Google:

Now to decide between the iphone 5 or Lumia, 920...

Cheers
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Just got my Nexus 10, should keep me busy for a while until the 4 decides to show itself.
[Nexus 4 General] sebbo90:
Has anyone else had their parcel lost by TNT? Just curious to see if I am the only person
[Nexus 4 General] Joey-UK:
lumia 920 all the way

Also is google's shipments are coming in periodically and about half of the orders have been shipped, then the other half will get done with the next shippment, and It will be a few weeks after that before it goes back on sale. Google left it to late for the Christmas period.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
I've decided to pay the extra money to o2 scum. I think its worth it just to not stress myself in this thread for the next 3/4 weeks and i can stay off refreshing Google Play page persistently.

Yes I feel aggrieved - but I set my heart on having this phone (I was out of the country day of release). But now I have it.

Guess I'll have to try harder at work now tho.

It works fine on my tMob sim. And is displaying EE after a reboot.

Gonna have a play first before I set about unlocking the bootloader and rooting later tonight. :D
[Nexus 4 General] t0ph0id:
I've just bee to O2, they offered it to me SIM free but with a £10 PAYG card for, wait for it, £399!

Giving me the £10 PAYG SIM for free. Thanks but no thanks, that's way to much. Try haggling for a discount if I signed up to a 30day contract liek another guy in this thread but they were having none of it.

CPW also wouldn't sell it to me for £389 even though it was advertised as that right on the phone, tried 3 different CPW stores all within a stones throw of each other.

Back to the drawing board...
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Considering they've been getting hundreds of them, I suspect someone appropriated it, not lost it.
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
Anyone else still backordered, ordered just one device, and ordered it relatively early, about 8:30am?
[Nexus 4 General] footboydog:
Anyone think Google should buy up all the phones O2 and Carphone Warehouse have and put them up for sale on the Play Store at the cheaper price?
[Nexus 4 General] andyzarins:
Hi

I live over in Bolton.... I was in the O2 store yesterday at the middlebrook. (I got the last Nexus from there). Anyway they told me all the pay as you go phones were locked to o2. I knew better and it is working perfectly with my t-mobile. If it works with t-mobile it will work with vodaphone...

I have posted this about 3 times now but I managed to talk the price down to £360. I had to take out a simplicity contract for £13.50 per month but I can cancel this in the 7 day cooling over period and not pay a penny for this. It was a months contract anyway even if it did not work out. called o2 customer services and they tried to blag me that I need to give 30 days notice. Mentioned the 7 day cooling off period and then they agreed they will cancel this.

Basically they gave me 10% discount because i bought the pay as you go phone and took out the contract.

Manager had to authorised the £40 off the phone. Hope this helps you mate.
[Nexus 4 General] Joey-UK:
I'm backordered, just ordered the 16gb nexus 4, 8:32am, although I did have a problem with my payment as I had to unlock it or something with lloyds tsb
[Nexus 4 General] sebbo90:
That was more my theory as well, what a £!*& whoever did take it
[Nexus 4 General] cityheadache:
Yes, me :(
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
I tried that.

But as you said 'managers discretion' only. (S/he must have fancied you. They didn't like me enough clearly! :( - despite my best efforts to form a relationship in a previous visit AND to play dumb about android!! Saw straight through me.
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeerex:
i ordered at 8:45, confirmation at 9:21 1 nexus 8gb and 1 bumper in the same order. backdated.
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
Ordered at 8:31am. a 16Gb N4 and bumper. Backordered.
[Nexus 4 General] CodeMonkey:
Up and running with an N4 from O2 Stevenage - purchased as Pay&Go, running Orange SIM no issues. CPW still have no SIM Free price listing and therefore won't sell.

And now I've ordered a bumper from Play lol.

Good luck with the back orders guys - I'm unsubscribing. Thanks all who provided the useful non-Play stockist info.
[Nexus 4 General] andyzarins:
I am fairly fat and ugly lol... Worth a try at another store? Other thing I thought of was a 5% discount through Quidco. Dont know if you have to pay for delivery if you buy online though.

Could not find any voucher codes for o2 apart from Quidco.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Ah, that explains it. They wanted to get rid of you :D

To me it looks like you found someone who had to meet their sales quota at any price :)

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[Nexus 4 General] Trauma208:
Mine has arrived.

Greeted the TNT guy with a Joker smile I couldn't contain

Lovely looking phone, Feels better in the hand than the S3, (Thicker) similar size.
[Nexus 4 General] sarkster:
Mine arrived this morning after getting the shipped email last night. 16gb. No bumpers
[Nexus 4 General] jholt1:
The TNT guy could see me watching him get the package out of the van from my front window. I bet I looked crazy.
[Nexus 4 General] Barso1:
I received my shipped email last night and the TNT tracking shows an outdated number.

I contacted TNT who have no details of any collection from Google or anything destined for my postcode.

This really is shoddy, I have received better service from nickel and dime shops on eBay.

Not good enough Google and makes me think that Google should just stay away from trying to get into the hardware business.

I will eBay my N4 when it arrives and go back to Apple in the hope that they approve Google-Maps soon.

Lesson learned and hopefully Google will realise that when you treat your new customers right then they stay.
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
Yes me :(
[Nexus 4 General] sarkster:
Did you try the TNT tracking number from the email but select the other check box on the TNT screen. Ie reference instead of consignment ?
[Nexus 4 General] cityheadache:
Thank goodness for giffgaff. Allowed me to shout at some college kid/Google CSR for a good 10 minutes without charging me a penny.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I caved and bought one from O2. It'll come to about £315 once I've traded all my other tech in. So pleased to get rid of that darn Desire.

To confirm, I have my Three SIM in it. Works beautifully. I'm in love!!
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
I'll give it tonight to see what happens, and if there's no movement / noone gets shipping info I'll cave in and do the same.
[Nexus 4 General] zippyijk:
I got my order in at 8.26am (n4 16gb and a bumper). My order is still showing as shipping on 15th and got the backorder email.

So is it the bumper that screwed up my order? If I had of just ordered the phone at 8.26 would I have gotten it?
[Nexus 4 General] Barguast:
Well done. Obviously you're directing your frustration in the wrong direction, and achieving nothing other than making someone's day at work a little worse, but so long as you feel a bit better, eh? :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] cityheadache:
Not necessarily. I bought one 16gb around the same time as you by itself and I've been backordered.
[Nexus 4 General] wizzywig27:
No, the other half popped into both o2 and CPW to see if they had it in stock, CPW said three weeks and o2 had 16gb version for £399 – point to note though, if you check the storage size specs online on the o2 website it says 8gb for £399??!
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
He works for Google. Google is at fault in this case. All they had to do was either stock enough, not take as many orders, tell us what was going on, etc, and a lot of people wouldn't be phoning them.
[Nexus 4 General] cityheadache:
Yes. Considering I leave the delivery address in two weeks as I finish my job, I think I have a right to be pissed and complain. Especially as for security reasons, addresses can't be changed. And to be fair, that's kind of what the CSRs are there for. I've worked in customer service long enough to know that.

Don't worry, compared to most of the people on here complaining, I was tame. I very much doubt I ruined the kid's day.

If they gave me an actual date of restocking rather than a broad estimate, I'd be dandy, but "within 3 weeks" is a pisstake.
[Nexus 4 General] CharmingCharlie:
Pretty much the same for me. After posting here last night I went to O2's website to order the phone. Oh boy that was fun I have a credit card and a debit card and it didn't like either for some bizarre reason. So I thought right Friday I am phoning a store up and if they have one in stock I am paying with COLD HARD CASH no more BSing around with bloody plastic that insists you provide a semen sample before you can even spend your own damn money.

So that's what I did, phoned a store they confirmed they had 2 x 16gbs left and it was £399 + £10 top up fee which would be waived if I am an existing O2 customer (which I kinda was up till about 2 weeks ago). Went in gave then £400 in cash and walked out the store with my new phone. It is almost worth the extra £110 just to avoid all the utter **** that incompetent companies such as Google dish out when it comes to "online retailing".

So far loving the phone but it is so different to my old Samsung Galaxy which is still on Gingerbread 2.3. It took mw 20 minutes to figure out how to put widgets on the screen :silly: but so far it is a lovely phone and feels very "substantial" and decent.
[Nexus 4 General] itsmyname:
Not gonna read through the 100+ pages that I've missed out, so can somebody fill me in? What's the latest, have google told us when the next batch will be in?
[Nexus 4 General] zippyijk:
So from the poll only just over 25% of phones shipped, that's insane, how on earth could they have gotten it so wrong??

I wonder it's it the same % in other regions?

See if that button the other day was 'pre-order' and not 'add to cart' I think I would have been ok with it but what on earth were they expecting it's not like it hasn't happened before.
[Nexus 4 General] kash1786:
ordered phone 8.29am, payment taken on tuesday, confirmation email received on day, no shipping email and backordered!! no bumper, just the friggin 16gb phone. y can i feeel that im gna receive a 8gb one, wastemans.:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
Ordered 08:52

Confirmation email received

Backorder email received

Nexus 4 8GB

No blinkin bumber!
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Back ordered for 1 x 8 GB Nexus 4 ordered at 8:40am.

Phoned Google very unhappy, they were absolutely useless - Couldn't explain why orders ordered earlier were shipping before and just said wait 3 weeks.

It was American customer service, looking for the Google Ireland number if anyone has it? Want my £9.99 postage back.
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
Made order at 8:45am

Confirmation email received

Backorder email received

Nexus 4 8GB

No bumber

And feeling pi**ed off :(
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
I think you gave me some good luck!

Received the phone around 11am this morning.

My order was pending in Wallet & shipping november 15th on the play store. 8:24am I ordered the phone.

No shipping email/Tracking at all.

No backlog email

Still saying Pending & 15th november shipping.

16gb Nexus 4 :)
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
The longer I have to wait the more I am becoming an iPhone addict, I hated using it at first, I quite like it now. Who knows what going to happen to me in 3 weeks ):
[Nexus 4 General] seaempty:
At least all these people buying from O2 and cancelling their orders means a better chance of the rest of us getting one in three weeks time.

Well you'd hope that was the case, but knowing Google, they've got a load of monkeys on typewriters allocating orders.
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
I'm just going to wait. The rush has worn off now, I'm more interested in playing with my 3DTV now. New CoD has fantastic 3D.
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
+1

lol, it's funny cos its true :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Sorry to hear you didn't get yours either mate, remember you from the last few nights!
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Heh, I was being a whiny *****, wasn't I. I'm over that now though. Now it's loft floorboarding time =D

Definitely looking forward to that... ;_;
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I wonder if some of you won't get charged for the phone due to all that mess.... :rolleyes:

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[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
Backordered 1 x 16GB N4 ordered at 8.31am. My friend accidentally ordered 2 and could not cancel the other one, he ordered at 8.39am and both his shipped today. Sigh.....
[Nexus 4 General] losimagic:
That'd suck for next day deliveries :(
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
" However, it seems Google has other plans for its new phone and tablet launch. Google Germany employee Stefan Keuchel took to Google+ today to inform followers that the new devices would not be available at the stroke of midnight, as some had speculated. Instead, he says he's learned that Germans will be able to start ordering devices tomorrow afternoon or early evening."

From androidcentral
[Nexus 4 General] Anon87:
Just a heads up. Car phone Warehouse won't be selling the nexus 4 until 14/11/12.

Just came from my local cpw and the manager read me an internal message - saying they can't display the phone in store or even show it to customers - until the 14th.
[Nexus 4 General] kaiowas82:
If u read my post you've got all the elements to solve the mistery :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Not really depends what time they plan to cut off next day deliveries. Maybe it'll be open for a few hours to get the early flow of orders out. But it would be sensible to open the store a bit earlier.

All speculation, we shall find out for sure tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I reckon (and hope) it'll get released at midnight PST, which would be 8am here. That gives us a chance to actually get our phones on the 14th. :P
[Nexus 4 General] t0ph0id:
Looks like we may be in business 8am UK time. Google employee Stefan Keuchel has changed his comment.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/101607164549546362845/posts/ZzTRygAhmDD

'Update : You'll think I'm crazy to explain (and rightly so), but I have just received the news that the Nexus devices (N4, N7 and N10) now but already tomorrow morning ! are (for breakfast) will be available on Google Play Hope . that you the good news as seen Sorry back and forth-for - but I'll keep you updated in near real-time updates ..'
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
Gives us a chance to get some sleep:p
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
Yep just read that ...great news...:victory:
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Yea I just rang google support and they said it will be 8am.
[Nexus 4 General] Baldyman1966:
Good news.
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Not for me :( aha I go to uni but live out. I have a lecture at 9am and need to get on the train by 8 D: so I wont have any signal to order the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
"Update: Keuchel has updated his post, indicating that Google has "stepped on the gas" and as such, the plan is to start taking orders through the Google Play devices store tomorrow morning, "around breakfast time" in Germany. (That's early morning Pacific time.) We've updated the post below to include this new information."
[Nexus 4 General] tarbyonline:
Don't know how they do it but every contract I have got through cpw has worked out cheaper than going direct to the network. Every phone I have got from them has also been unlocked with stock manufacturer firmware incliding my present one which I bought pay and go as it was cheaper than SIM free. The guy actually put the payg SIM pack into the box of the same handset I was about to purchase SIM free for £30 more.
[Nexus 4 General] Baldyman1966:
Bummer, can't you get there extra early and use the computers in the library (or elsewhere) before your lecture?
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
I'm waking up at 6:45 to get the train there. Kinda hope it will be 15 minutes late like the apple ones usually are :P then the train should be at/near durham by then and I might have signal.
[Nexus 4 General] leerobson99:
Anyone received shipping details from pre orders from cpw?
[Nexus 4 General] therealbroxy:
Ahhh, I'll be on a plane for another 30 mins at 8am, can you guys leave one for me to buy :)
[Nexus 4 General] jabbeboy:
Anyone knows any info about the deliveries from Handtec.co.uk?
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
Not directly, no. I imagine they're going to order a load, receive them tomorrow (or Wednesday) and ship them out then. If anything you'll most likely get them later than you would if you ordered from Google Play.
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeerex:
my HOX i sold on ebay got sent out today to the new owner, im on a £10 burner until this shows up. bad times.
[Nexus 4 General] 1arry1iu:
guess he can sell the other one on ebay and make a fortune.
[Nexus 4 General] Tibbz96:
I wasn't available to receive the package, so I left a note for TNT, it said out for delivery and now it says shipping in transit on the tracking?

---------- Post added at 04:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:51 PM ----------

You should get him to give you that one and then when you get yours, give it to him :)
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
Random orders

The more I hear the more I am convinced

TNT fulfillment are running things - Google are basically just sending pallets of phones and a list of orders

TNT's contract is to pick/pack and despatch. Most retailers pack orders themselves and present the carrier with a labelled box.

TNT will pick/pack and despatch to suit their depots and van rounds - not googles time order arrived.

That is why google are clueless - they are being told by TNT who is getting them. Google outsourced.

This is why I worry about the back orders not being filled "fairly" either.

If google had only taken orders for the number of phones on the pallets they were sending to TNT then nobody would have noticed the out of chronological sequence of delivery.

Googles fault all ways round

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] :
With the Nexus 7's they used computer2000.

Google /takes the orders/ > Computer2000 /packs the orders and puts shipping labels on them/ > TNT /collects from computer2000 and delivers to the address/

My guess is that they are using the same system. At least there are no reports of address labels getting messed up with Google UK HQ 'Gordon house' address this time.
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
I believe this may be the case young sir...;),

we can only laugh about it now as there is nothing we can actually do about it..:p
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeerex:
Be interesting to hear if people start getting shipping confirmations again this evening. At this point is it a case of, we cant keep up with demand and shipping is a slow process, or we have no more phones. Nobody knows and the emails from Google are clear as mud to boot.
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
I'm currently hovering over the cancel order button. I can't decide if I'm being an complete idiot by buying from O2 or not!
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
That is great idea!
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
This whole farce reminds me of the Google+ launch. Loads of hype and interest but very exclusive and nobody could get in, then everyone stopped caring.
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
So guess which will come first... Nexus 4 or the Jelly Bean upgrade for my Galaxy S2? It's a race between Google and Samsung! On your marks, get set, go!
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
I wouldnt! Wait for a bit, £400 is farr too much.
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
Yeah I changed my mind in the end! 3 weeks isn't worth £100. 3 months maybe. That said I'm still not convinced I'll be getting it within 3 weeks to be honest!