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[Nexus 4 General] CamoGeko:
Cant really say mate as I don't live in Hertfordshire, but I lived in London a few years back and I found the speeds to be ok. I was on O2 at the time.

Your best bet is to try a sim only plan from 3 (like a 30 day one), just to see what the signal is like. If it turns out to be rubbish then you can just go back to using GiffGaff.
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
if you work like me in Central London the speeds are awesome..heck they are even better than the wifi that we have in our work...but as you said if you are in area were the signal is rubbish then try someone else
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Three speeds in London are generally fine. I've been to Watford a few times and I've got the best speeds there. Around 20 down.
[Nexus 4 General] sysak:
Cheers. Sounds like it's worth to at least give it a shot. Will get a three sim as soon as my goodybag runs out.
[Nexus 4 General] androidsnax:
Order one from the website, they will send you out a pay as you go SIM free of charge and you can check out signal etc before taking the plunge. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] howard bamber:
I tether on that network no problem with an unlocked set
[Nexus 4 General] PWF:
I order just a N4 at 8.29am to be delivered in London. Moneys on hold out of my account and have an estimated shipping date for today but no shipping email!
[Nexus 4 General] :
Thanks for the info guys and its out for delivery :D yay lol
[Nexus 4 General] Barguast:
No tracking information for me. I got another email from Google support last night:

Not especially helpful. Again, this comes after the email yesterday about multiple orders. I think I read some people who had that email did get tracking information through last night..? Fingers crossed I'll get my tracking info this evening.

FYI: I have two orders, one for the 16GB N4, another for the 32GB N10 + N4 bumper (I would hope the N4 order isn't getting held up by the other!). Order date: Nov 13, 2012 08:35 AM GMT. The money appears to have been reserved from my account, but not taken yet (Santander).
[Nexus 4 General] kash1786:
ordered 8.29 on tuesday, payment taken from natwest on tuesday, still got pending and estimated delivery date for 15th! damniitttt!!!! :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
i doubt its being held up by the n10, my n10 is out for delivery today!
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
Yup same here but 8:24am.

Whats annoying me is people who have ordered way after me have had theirs dispatched already.
[Nexus 4 General] keepittidy:
It's here....!!!! :o
[Nexus 4 General] t0ph0id:
I still keep pressing F5 occasionally just in case any come back in stock...
[Nexus 4 General] kash1786:
Exactly! im happy for those who are getting it delivered, at least they getting it when it was expected, i just need to know its being delivered damnit! and iv just discovered the TNT depot is closer to work than my house, so as sooon as I know its there im gona go and grab it!:cowboy:!

anybody received delivery notifications recently?
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
Just phoned the play store, they said even know i ordderd it on the 13th TNT only got my money today

so i wont get it for maybe another two days when it say it shoud be here today :(
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
haha you think thts crazy, im still running the page monitor every 5 seconds
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
I'm getting on at Google for shipping orders ordered after mine, but they're going on about it being shipped by the 15th and then up to two days for delivery. Almost like communicating with a parrot.

Trying to get compensation is useless, they don't see anything being done wrong and pretty much just ignore the fact of many orders being shipped and delivered today and follow their delivery script. I expressed how awful the postage charge is in regards to the service, still nothing.

For everyone else, enjoy your phone :)
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Has anyone noticed that the Bumpers have

IN STOCK : Delivered in 3-5 business days next to them.

Hence I reckoning that's why we don't have our phone arriving today :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Baldyman1966:
The Waiting.

Well, here we are in the dreaded limbo of no news and no information. No shipping confirmation for me either. I expect the customer service guys are going to be heartily sick of hearing our voices by the end of the day.
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeerex:
thats utter rubbish, TNT never see a penny of 'our money' their contract is with google, as is ours. sounds like a moron trying to get you off the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] t0ph0id:
Me too! :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
The phones had exactly the same thing next to them when we ordered.

I reckon single orders are the only ones that have been processed because they will have just whacked loads of each type of phone and tablet into shipping packaging, then printed off the info for single-item orders and whacked it on one of the appropriate packages. In which case it would mean there has been no 'picking and packaging' specific to each customer, worryingly.
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
Prob was buddy, i've had no shipping email at all as well :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
Still pending on Google wallet...

On play account, still estimate shipping by 15th November...

No e-mail what so ever...

I'm really getting annoyed at this...

If I don't get an email today I will cancel my order, buy an Iphone, sell my Nexus 7, buy an iPad mini, forget about the Nexus 10 and buy an iPad 4... :)

Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] THFourteen:
thats what the phones also said when we ordered them.

TBH don't worry too much, be glad we are getting our bumpers as those who are getting just their phone delivered today will soon be posting in the [Official]I smashed the glass on my Nexus and can't get a replacement for 4 weeks thred
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
Guys i'm gonna upgrade within a few days, I phoned orange to see if they could match three's deal or giffgaff but they couldn't. But now i'm torn, on the one hand I see that here, most people are happy with three but I still hear so many horror stories about three. Giffgaff seems good but some here are saying that it's not as fast as three. Location wise, i'm in London (east) but I occasionally go up to yorkshire every now and again.

The plans i'm looking at are the £12 ones with unlimited data
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
never had any issue with 3 mate...when i get a good area download speeds are really fast..customer services again no problem with them although they can be a pain sometimes.....my next upgrade is in april...if i can get them down to a yearly contract great if not i will be saying good bye to them and just sticking with my current one and sod upgrading:D
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
I'm on three in East London not had any issues with mine down Forest Gate, Stratford, Whitechapel, Mile End etc. Working great.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
No problems east to West between a40 and a4 and around. Only problem I get occasionally is poor building penetration.
[Nexus 4 General] androidsnax:
I would go with 3 in a flash due to their unlimited data, no signal in my flat though so it's a no go! I'm on virgins "unlimited" plan (3.5GB before throttling), the £15 one reduced to £12... great speeds and positive experience in every aspect apart from this nonsense of unlimited not actually being unlimited! What's with that?!

sent from the Nexus 4000
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
Yeah I saw that virgin limit the speeds. I saw it on hotuk deals, limited to something like 400kb/s after youv'e used 3.5GB but i'm pretty sure it's only virgin who limit your speeds. Like youv'e already said, absolutely ridiculous :) Ordered a giffgaff sim, will see how it goes, I can always switch to three after a month or two if I don't like giffgaff
[Nexus 4 General] androidsnax:
Hopefully they will finish with that rubbish after a wider rollout of the faster data speeds, 3 already offering unlimited data for no extra cost etc... and with Google plays unlimited music etc... I pay 7.99 a month bit can't use it on the high quality sound while out and about otherwise I've used up the allowance after a couple of hours! :'(

sent from the Nexus 4000
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
Restricting speed after using a certain amount of data is sadly how a lot of European and US networks operate. I really hope Three never decides to do this, although it does now have TrafficSense. (okay, it's had the scheme a while but now it seems to have properly decided how to use it - and file sharers have the most to lose, which I don't really have a problem with).

I can't recommend Three highly enough. Highest speed so far is just under 30Mbps, which is nearly as much as I get on my EE mobile broadband MiFi. And that has a 8GB limit.

My Three One Plan SIM is nudging over 60GB in just two weeks! I can't wait for 4G on Three, when it will be goodbye EE.
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
Ha yeah! All phone companies lie though: wider rollout!!! Faster speeds!!! 3g belongs in a museum you have to get 4g now, its shiny and new!!!

Orange are complete sh*t. My speeds are slow, the only part I get decent speeds in my area is the local fried chicken shop and they only offered me 1gb internet when I asked them to match giffgaff/three. So glad i'm leaving now....
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
To be fair, EE now has DC-HSPA in a lot of places and actually comes close to Three at times. However, even with the 25% discount on their 4G tariffs (if not now, very soon) it will still be cheaper on Three for a lot of data.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Anyone on T-Mobile/EE network based in London, can tell me what Radio they are using? I am getting poor battery life. I am running PA and stock Kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
I'm on Orange/EE in London. Battery is normal with .84 radio. Its probably a rom/kernel issue or apps causing wakelocks etc. But you can always try others, .83 and .84 are for 4.3 but others might work:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
I drive around fair bit. 3uk has been great so far. Max I've hit is 22mb and reception seems very decent. With lower bands this will only improve. Currently they are using 2100, 4g will be in 1800 and 850,which should improve reception in building a fair bit.

Sent from N4 ? now Free
[Nexus 4 General] blizard80:
Has anyone done a RMA lately?

I'm starting to think my phone is faulty but now there are no nexus 4 in google play store to do the standard RMA people have been doing, right?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
They will have new/refurbished units for rma

Sent from N4 ? now Free
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
I am thinking of trying Franco.Kernal today, anyone seen improvements with this?
[Nexus 4 General] hyperspacey:
I know several people who have RMAed from the UK this week and received replacement units the next day, whether they're new or refurbs I can't say.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
How you guys getting 30mb speeds on 3g in Three network? Thinking of moving to 3 but 4G rolleout isn't until end of the year.
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
Their DC-HSDPA network is almost as fast as 4G
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Max I've hit is 22mb. Which is more than good enough for me especially as ping is rain the lower end for a mobile mobile network. I want lte, but mainly for better penetration and lower ping, speed is good enough for me as is Tbh. I average something like 6-8mb.

Sent from N4 ? now Free
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
I see. Do you encounter drop outs in signal or any buffering in videos etc. Thinking of getting the 30-day contract, but need a better deal. I don't require as many 'texts' as it is becoming more or less obsolete therefore more 'minutes' would had been appreciated.
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
£18 for The One Plan, with 2,000 minutes, is pretty good for a 30 day deal.

I committed to a year to bring it down to £15, as the overall cost of ownership is low enough not to really worry too much. Personally, I'd never sign up to a 24 month contract at £50 a month as some people seem willing to do!
[Nexus 4 General] qaz2453:
Really impressed with the speed of hspa+ on 3 UK

I had a nexus s before without hspa+ so I never benefitted from the speed increase :)

Sent from my Nexus 4 + 7
[Nexus 4 General] howard bamber:
I'm on 3,in Southport and average 12 mb/s

on 3. Never get dropped calls. Been with them from the start and they have got better and better. All the data I want for £15.

Sent by mobile telephone.
[Nexus 4 General] King p1n:
Anybody know where I can get a cheap nexus 4 16gb? Maybe second hand?
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
AVforums/eBay/Gumtree
[Nexus 4 General] Nathanation:
Hey the current discussion on giffgaff/three is interesting, I recently went with giffgaff and it has been good for a while... I stream a lot of music with spotify in the car and at work and generally I had good speeds.

Now in the last 2 weeks I'm getting terrible speeds! Like 0.5mbs down or less :( I can't work out why, tried messing with APN settings and checked service which shows no problems in my area (Farnborough, Hampshire) what kinda speeds are others getting with giffgaff?
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
Giffgaff will have access to O2 4G from next March and I have to say that O2's 4G service is pretty decent. Faster than EE in places.

But for 3G, O2 has always been terrible for me and that's easily checked by looking at the data on the Root Metrics app that let's ordinary users share coverage and data speeds to build up a 'real world' map.

So for 3G data, Three wins hands down. For 4G it will not be so clear, especially with O2 having both a head start and also a requirement to roll out coverage faster and wider as part of its unique licence.
[Nexus 4 General] howard bamber:
Use 3

Sent by mobile telephone.

---------- Post added at 11:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:49 AM ----------

I ate baked beans for a while and I'm glad I did. I'm on 3payg. £15 unlimited data 3000 text and 300 mins

Sent by mobile telephone.
[Nexus 4 General] faultytowersdude:
Would you guys recommended buying a nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
Wait for the Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
I was told by LG at a party that the Nexus 5 won't be as cheap as the N4 was from day one, so if you could still get a Nexus 4 cheap enough, it could still be worth looking at.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathanation:
The nexus 4 could be an even better bargain after the nexus 5 launch, loads of mint ones on eBay going now for around £160 which is awesome considering what you get with the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] jonmorris:
The N4 is still an incredible phone, albeit lacking LTE, and so shouldn't be written off just yet.

Very few phones a year old would have me still recommending it.
[Nexus 4 General] tarbyonline:
How many people actually need LTE though? Apart from having to fork out extra for a contract much of the country has no coverage anyway! Personally I am more than happy with the speeds I am getting with Virgin mobile 3G on the nexus 4 - I can quite happily tether the laptop over Bluetooth and not notice much difference to my cable broadband when out and about. Add to that the fact I am paying £15 a month (on a monthly contract) for unlimited Calls, Texts, and Data I don't see me getting the urge to switch to 4g anytime soon, even if I might treat myself to a N5 in a few months. Unless you want to stream HD movies in the middle of Manchester or another of the places with coverage then why pay the extra?
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
For those on giffgaff, in phone status under settings does phone number say unknown? I was on orange, switched to Giffgaff and now it says phone number unknown. Only noticed it now though
[Nexus 4 General] Nathanation:
Yeah mine says unknown on giffgaff I don't know why but it doesn't seem to cause a problem.
[Nexus 4 General] hunnymonster:
The phone number is read from the SIM but it's not a mandatory field... So some operators don't populate it.

I have a different slant since I ported my number to an existing SIM so the number shown is the original number the SIM was on and the actual number is the ported in number...
[Nexus 4 General] nowster:
When I ported from Orange to T-Mobile it took several months for the correct number to show.
[Nexus 4 General] hazwheel:
Aren't orange and T-Mobile the same company? EE?
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Giffgaff send out their SIMs unprogrammed. I used a ****ty Alcatel dumbphone to program mine.
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
Ah ok then, im enjoying giffgaff much better than EE/Orange. The only thing is I like to change roms quite often so every time I have to put the APN settings back in since o2 and Tesco are the only ones that show up
[Nexus 4 General] tye_time:
I've just ordered a giff gaff sim, only £10 a month for 1GB of internet is a steal!

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] nowster:
There's still a Chinese Wall between the two. However, this was three years ago, right at the start of the merger.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
CyanogenMod should have Giffgaff by default, I added it to their source years ago.
[Nexus 4 General] Zenzic:
It's so cheap! 1 gig for £10. And only £12 for unlimited internet. I use that as I watch a lot of videos :)
[Nexus 4 General] nickslg:
I switched from giffgaff to 3 much better signal with 3 that's for sure, I'm using £15 add on 300 min 3000 text All you can eat Data
[Nexus 4 General] misiokicio:
It all depends on the location.... three suck it hard in Scotland so the EE...
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Maybe if their company done a better job of communicating! It's not the buyers you curse making your job relentless, it's the company you work for if it's the same questions being asked over and over.

Yeah some of the customer reps don't even have Google to blame for this mess with the tripe they are coming up with.

Contracts like this are determined and paid for way before now, and definitely not at £10 a package! Which is why Google are fleecing us of our money (not as hard to take when Nexus 4 is soo cheap, but the speed/communication of service is woeful).
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
LOL

let me know what you do that , so i can grab yours lol
[Nexus 4 General] antonusklesk:
This. If they'd just increased the price by £10 and not charged for shipping we'd feel less inclined to moan.
[Nexus 4 General] zibby64:
Not sure how people can moan - the delivery was always advertised as up to 4 total days - 2 for processing and 2 for delivery. If you don't get the dispatch email today/tonight then you can start moaning.
[Nexus 4 General] phillevy:
I notice there is a number for Google commerce in Dublin - surely they will be able to give the most accurate information. It is difficult for me to call them from work (I may be able to Skype), but it would be interesting to hear what they have to say.
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
Those of you who have already received your device, how much did the package weigh?
[Nexus 4 General] Danny80y:
Guys... stop saying you are going to cancel. Unless you cancel within an hour of ordering there is no way for them to stop delivery. They just tell you to refuse it. So your not getting a refund until you refuse it and it makes it back and is processed. After that its at least 15 days to refund... Trust me I did it with my Nex7 and it's not easy. Took over a month to get a refund after about 20 calls and the highest level of support.
[Nexus 4 General] androidy:
Did it ? Oh Okay - I didnt notice I was fantically trying to buy one using my phone whilst boarding a train on Tuesday morning, wasn't really looking at the finer details :)

Bumper all the way - wouldn't of minded the £15.99 price tag if it was made from that stock resistance D3O stuff..
[Nexus 4 General] Stretlow:
Id love to be waiting for a package to be delivered.... :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
I know, at least i got my Nexus 10 coming, but i was so looking forward to my NEXUS 4 :(
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
OK,

Just spoken to Google who say all UK orders after a certain time were delayed 24hrs because of the amount of order backup, only a lucky few had theirs dispatched early.

Most orders will be dispatched today and you should receive them by the weekend..:D,

However if Google have a policy to process within 48 hrs and deliver within 48 hrs then we should all be entitled to a refund of the delivery cost due to Google delaying the processing for 24 hrs, I for one will be demanding by delivery cost back..:(
[Nexus 4 General] chandlerweb:
Same here. Looking forward to this thread being about availability rather than delivery :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] THFourteen:
the number of times i had to refresh the page, change to 16gb nexus, add to cart, proceed, error, repeat.... i could probably recount every detail of the webpage from memory ;)
[Nexus 4 General] keepittidy:
According to the TNT label it was 0.647 KG

I'm pleasantly surprised at the size of the phone, much better in one hand than i thought...
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Good luck, I tried that.

The certain time thing hasn't exactly been accurate either with people ordering stock at midday/afternoon getting their's sent out last night.
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
Just sent another email, and it siad my order should ship by the evening of the 15th

I ordered mine [Nexus 4 8GB] ~08:50 on Tuesday, still pending in wallet, no confirmation email
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
Now a lot of device are shipped or are about to be but there's any news about a restock in UK :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] james_d:
That would be good news, would probably mean it arriving tomorrow rather than early next week. Fingers crossed
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Im just waiting for my page notifier to go off lol, gonna have it on untill its back in stock..
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
Same here, autorefresh still going every 10 second
[Nexus 4 General] gdourado:
Do they only ship at night? Starting around 9 PM?

Or can we expect shippings during day time today?

Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] therealbroxy:
Yay , my micro sim just arrived

Boo, nothing changed on my order and no email received

One step forward though!
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
Well I hope it's not on Saturday as the delivery address is my work address :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
They don't do Saturday delivery. It's more expensive.
[Nexus 4 General] UberGinge:
My Nexus 10 has been shipped now, but a man named Michael seems to have picked it up without it going to a hub. Is this man just taking it to the hub for me, or should I panic as it's gone to some random person?
[Nexus 4 General] Tibbz96:
I read somewhere on TNT website that they deliver on Saturdays. I'll see if I can find it.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
is it shipped with TNT? if it is , make sure you hit the box that says customer reference not consignment
[Nexus 4 General] therealbroxy:
I just mailed them as well and within seconds received the following (it looks far too automatic for my liking)

"Orders are shipped within two business days of placing your order, and will be delivered upon two additional business days of processing.

According to our records, your order should ship by the evening of November 15.

Upon receiving your shipping confirmation email, you'll be given a tracking number that will assist you in determining your package's estimated delivery date. Please note that it might take up to 24 hours before the tracking number returns any information."

I am hoping for a tomorrow delivery though!
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
They will do Saturday deliveries (most reputable couriers do), but it's an extremely high expensive. Google's contract with them will not include Saturday deliveries.
[Nexus 4 General] 3Shirts:
I almost guarantee you were looking at the consignment number on TNT's page instead of switching the radio button to Customer Reference. You will probably also notice the number is two digits short and the collection was ages ago (probably October?)

You need to select Customer Reference on the TNT page. It will either have your details or say 'error' if they haven't collected it from Google yet