yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Those sites list that the one S doesn't have the panorama feature and scenes, it most definitely does have those features and has since the phone came out, just look at my review of the S in sig below and you will see screenshots and photos using/displaying these features.

[youtube]_hROhUUDDZg&list[/youtube]

And these figures that are taken for the battery life mean nothing and even more so when it comes to benchmarks for battery i.e. just look at the one X and how it should perform according to benchmarks/figures, yet it has one of the worst battery life there is and then compare the S which has worst figures than it in benchmarks yet it turns out that it has the best battery life there is aside from the note II, MAXX etc.

You want to judge battery life, go by the end users results, not review sites or some figures, which mean nothing at all as they have no relation to real world usage, so much affects battery, screen brightness, wifi, mobile data connection, GPS, bluetooth, emails, facebook etc. syncing

Have you actually used a one X or S at all or even looked through reviews properly?
[HTC One S] lorddart:
Ehhh. I still think people use the term build quality too loosely when regarding just the external feel of the phone. I personally don't have average size hands and the galaxy s iii still works for me. It's a little less comfortable with a case, but makes me feel more comfortable haha. I was a little disappointed that the one s didn't have a rubberized back like other phones. I felt the one s was really slick on the back and worried I'd drop it ha.

All in all. I like the galaxy s iii better. Have had them both, and the galaxy s iii honestly isn't much larger size wise. Took me a little while to get used to the larger screen size. I think if the one s had a higher resolution... For the difference in price I probably would have stuck with it.

Just remember that build quality means a lot more than just external feel. I had some goofy issues with my one s I haven't experienced with my Galaxy s iii. I also like the development, I run debloated stock personally but options are good. Camera is better, front facing camera is Significantly better. And touchwiz has definitely improved the notification pull down is much better in my opinion. I loved my one s, minus a few problems. But I gotta say unless I was pocketing $130 or so I wouldn't trade (and that has been offered to me) so if phone depreciation matters that might be a factor. Anyway all in all both good phones. I like them both. It's really what flavor you prefer. I like galaxy s iii a lot though.
[HTC One S] humanbean:
In real world tests the battery life is far better on the HTC One line of devices.
[HTC One S] lorddart:
I've found the one s and gs iii both very adequate in battery performance... One S a little better standby but I can squeeze a good day + on either and around 4.5-5 hours of screen on time
[HTC One S] hellopips:
sorry to say......... the way my one s is performing and the way htc are dealing with it i would say g3!! im on my second one s and this has been to htc twise for repair!! it come back monday morning with only taking htc 3-4 days to repair and send back :highfive:only to find the phone now has other issues!!:( and when contacting htc again all they are trying to tell me the same thing, has the phone had a factory reset! and am i using a third party app to that i answer yes to bothe!! not happy at mo with my one s and htc!
[HTC One S] pierrenp:
Thanks for your response, guys!

I've never used any HTC nor Samsung before,, I previously own a 5" Dell Streak, which has a metal/aluminum body and a great build quality. I personally tried to get my hands on an HTC One S on a tech expo, and i also tried to get a hold of a samsung GS3, The One S feels sturdier, when the GS3 felt more like a plastic toy, It's a pretty shame that a device with that high price tag has a cheap feel to it.

One thing I'm curious is, even though the One S packs lesser specs than the Galaxy S3, What do you guys think about the One S' performance? Does it lag often? Or maybe does it even perform better than the S3? (judging on your daily usage).
[HTC One S] InVaLiD.:
I love how I have a Life battery. But, yes, the size is way better than the GS3, its just too bulky. And NFC is the only thing th GS3 has over the One S.
[HTC One S] kai604:
Because One S has the better size, looks much more noble than the S III plastic and runs very smooth :)
[HTC One S] touch of jobo:
Performance wise, the OneS is a beast. Very snappy. The quad core cpu in the SGSIII is no real advantage over the dual core in the OneS. Also, having QHD resolution means fewer pixels to fling around than 720HD.

The OneS has only 10G of 'sdcard' and 2.5G of app and user data. It also has a limited amount of RAM resulting in inactive apps getting killed off fairly quickly. Personally I have no issue with this, but I can imagine that some people would. If it is no issue for you, then you should love this device.
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Actually that is more due to the way that HTC have tweaked the RAM memory handler, they have done it in such a way so that sense apps are prioritised over non sense apps, in other words to keep the phone running as smooth and fast as it does really.

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-speaks-sense-4-multitasking-and-memory-management

Although I have disabled an awful lot of stuff and use 3rd party apps for some things instead and have never encountered a problem with multi-tasking apart from when I switch from a demanding game to the browser and the tabs will reload, although this will be the same on most phones with 1GB anyway.

1GB is still plenty these days and will be for at least another year. 2GB is a luxury spec, which isn't needed but, wanted, if you're a heavy browser who likes to have more than 3 tabs opened whilst listening to music/watching a film or doing something else then it will be great and a noticeable improvement over 1GB devices.

EDIT:

As said, the one S is a beast, the CPU (s4) is better than the exynos quad in the GS 3 (more performance per core, which is more important than having an additional 2 cores as android/apps doesn't make proper use of quad fully, let alone dual, more power efficient and better for heat)

The GPu is also very good and holds it own against the mali in the GS 3 and even beats it in some tests.

I have compared the S and GS 3 side by side and the one S is more snappy/faster at loading apps/games and the game levels and some other things like the gallery thumbnails. Browsing was more or less the same, some sites loaded faster on the S whilst others loaded faster on the GS 3. Overall, I would say the GS 3 was smoother (more so due to the animations and timings though), not a huge difference, although I was having a look today at the GS 3 today and it was quite laggy.......someone must have been messing with the settings or something. Not like it will matter once the S gets JB.
[HTC One S] Double-UA:
Got it, S3 is history :) and already sold.

Feels so much better and no visual differences in speed.

Made sure I got the S4 processor.
[HTC One S] pierrenp:
Wow!! I must say i'm impressed of what you did :D
[HTC One S] Double-UA:


I posted earlier in this thread and just wrote what I said I was planning to do. I don't see any reason for such a sarcastic remark. This being said I will delete my subscription to this thread as for me this thing is closed and forgotten...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] isbrodie1:
Hi guys,

Has this been implemented properly in CM10, I can get song titles to display but I cant see the track number or song lenght/time

Just wondering if it's something I've setup wrong
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] winwiz:
the i9300 toggle does not work

anyone know how to disable this on the i9305?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] btemtd:
+1 i would also like to know this
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] mahendru1992:
FastDormancy Toggle

download fastdormancy toggle in the play store :D.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] winwiz:
i take it then thats its been updated to run on the i9305

didnt work last time i tested
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] btemtd:
no it hasnt been updated i dont know what his talking about. I think his confused , it still says only for i9300 .... we need a dev to port it

But i think we can do it manually goto this guide and try unfortunatley it doesnt look easy >>>> GUIDE I am going to try it when i have time I wish we had an app
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] martymonster:
I looked at that guide on my 9305 but the DATA fields in the database are completely different.

There is a dormancy database as well which may be what should be changed.

Mine lists a heap of providers, mainly from HK (its a HK phone used on Telstra Australia).

Maybe some one with more knowledge can look at it.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] rbimdxe:
I did it using the link that is provided in the post that has been linked.

Very tedious but it appears to have worked. From 8.50 to 10.20 I had 42s of Fast Dormancy wake locks and that number hasn't changed in the hour since.

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/at-your-own-risk-how-to-disable-fast.html?m=1

I had to do everything manually but there were already entries for Telstra so you should be able to simply edit them according to the guide above.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] rbimdxe:
I'm fairly confident this has worked as I have had increase in FD in 13 hours :)

Will keep an eye on it though ;)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
Hi, i'm giving this a go on my phone, but the aShell app can't get root.. i've definitely got root on the phone. Did you have any issues like this? when i tick the root box in aShell, SuperSU asks if i want to grant root, i click Grant, and then i get a message box from aShell saying "No Root Access. Root not available on this phone!"
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
OK, i fixed this myself, if you're having the same problem as me you just need to update busybox.

you'll need root obviously, install this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en

once installed, run it, and choose the smart installer. it will update busybox and stop the "Value too large for defined data type android" errors which i think cause this problem.

PS the guide seems to work fine for the i9305, our Carriers table doesn't have the dormancy field like the one in the screenshot, but it doesn't seem to matter.

Telstra's PLMN is 50501.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] rbimdxe:
Hey

Sorry mate didn't see the post.

I had that issue and as I mentioned, did everything manually - ice, I used Root Explorer to locate the databases and read them to find the Operator number, and then manually copied the network info database to be edited with SQL manager, and then manually moved the new database and backed up the existing one - again with Root Explorer.

Have not had a single instance of Fast dormancy wake lock though, so I'd say it worked.

I guess the toggle app just doesn't have the correct portion info for the i9305 which would make it easier...
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
yeah, i got the PLMN from adb rather than the mobile app, much easier.

With Ripper ROM and Telstra i didn't have to do any of the APN creation stuff either, it was all already there, so probably took me about 2 mins once i got aShell working.

I think next i'm going to investigate whether testra actually offer fast dormancy (there's an XDATV post on how to do this manually, but it's kinda labourious). While i had a bunch of slightly worrying (but nothing crazy) fast dormancy wake locks, i never really noticed anything too bad with battery life due to them. fast dormancy is a cool idea, but only if the network supports it.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] btemtd:
So if you are with telstra should we be disabling it or not
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
did you even read my post? :/

someone has to work it out. When i have time i'll give it a crack.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
Telstra fast dormancy results

Hi Guys,

Here's what I've been able to work out.

3G networks - tested on both an i9300 and an i9305 set to WCDMA only

Fast dormancy disabled on the phone

Cycle: DCH -> FACH -> URA-PCH (-> IDLE) --- (URA-PCH is UPCH on the i9305)

T1 (DCH -> FACH): ~3 seconds

T2 (FACH -> URA-PCH): 55 seconds

T3 (URA-PCH -> IDLE): dunno, i waited 4 minutes and it didn't happen. maybe IDLE is never hit while the screen is on? dunno.

Fast dormancy enabled on the phone

Cycle: DCH -> FACH -> URA-PCH (-> IDLE)

T1 (DCH -> FACH): ~2 seconds

T2 (FACH -> URA-PCH): 3-5 seconds

T3 (URA-PCH -> IDLE): dunno, as above.

LTE network - obviously tested only on an i9305

Fast dormancy disabled on the phone

Cycle: CONN -> IDLE

T1 (CONN -> IDLE): 35 seconds.

Fast dormancy enabled on the phone

Cycle: CONN -> IDLE

T1 (CONN -> IDLE): 35 seconds

OK. what conclusions can we draw from this?

For 3G, it appears Telstra indeed does utilise fast dormancy. This is great.

However, for LTE, it seems that Telstra does not have fast dormancy. I really don't know anything about how 4G (or 3G) networks work - for all I know fast dormancy might not even be a thing with 4G, so this behaviour is normal. I will see if I can coax someone with more knowledge than I to answer this riddle.

In the meantime, I would leave fast dormancy enabled for your i9305 if you're on Telstra.

[edit]

Actually, i take this back. Probably disable fast dormancy, read HERE.

[/edit]
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] winwiz:
Guys network is irrelevant here

We need a generic way of disabling this!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
No, you are incorrect. Watch the YouTube video and learn about fast dormancy:

www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/fast-dormancy-the-whole-story-xda-developer-tv/
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] btemtd:
Yes I did read your post and I am thinking that you were going to find out wether telstra has fast dormancy or not which in my books means calling them up and asking them. which i then thought 7 hrs later Hmmm maybe he has found out by now I should ask :D.... But since you checked the long way and found out seems more detailed and better

Cngrats ;)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] martymonster:
How did you get that data on your 9305?

I have been trying to find it.

PS: My understanding is that LTE does not use the concept of Fast Dormancy, only 3G uses it as 4G (LTE) uses a conpletely different connection method.

My 9305 alsways shows Fast_Dormancy in the kernel wavelocks when using Better Battery Stats and a 4G connection, yet my Samsung 8.9 LTE tablet does not show this Fast_Dormany wavelock.

Wierd
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
Well i just monitored the connection states as described in the XDA TV thingo.

I also get my worst wakelocks from "fast_dormancy" if i'm connected to a 4G data network on my i9305.

From what I can see it maintains a full data connection for 35 seconds even if you just download a byte. This is probably why 4G uses up so much battery, if various apps need to pull data only once a minute, you'll get at best 41% deep sleep. shocking!

Maybe they're yet to implement a fast dormancy style method with LTE? i dunno, but it's terrible at the moment.

with your tablet, does it do 3G as well? or just 4G? do you have any background syncing turned on? I'd like to test if i deleted all my accounts (including google), and removed any app that used background data whether or not the fast_dormancy wakelock would disappear
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] jonamafun:
I guess one way to avoid the wakelock problem is to use a program like JuiceDefender to switch off the data connection completely when the screen is off.

Annoying I know, and you won't receive things like Whatsapp instantaneously, but it's an option.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] qwerty1231121:
Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think JuiceDefender helps since the phone is still waiting for a signal from the tower and would constantly "wake" the phone.

fast_dormancy is seriously draining my battery. Using better battery stats, i had wake time of 5hr +, screen time of 2hr 14min and about 2hr 35 min of wake time was due fast_dormancy.

My bettery would probably improve by 30% if fast_dormancy is fixed without root since there's report of sudden death with s3.

Btw the strange thing is my carrier actually has fast dormancy enabled, it still wake the phone like crazy.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
no, the phone is smart enough to realise that there is no network connection, so not to bother trying to connect.

regarding your fast dormancy, is it with 4G where you have the issues? I don't think there's is any "fast dormancy" with 4G, only 3G.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] qwerty1231121:
Alright I'll try again tonight turning off data using deep sleep app.

No, 4G is not selected, GSM/WCDMA (auto mode). Is it due to weak signal?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
shouldn't be a signal issue i don't think (although a weak signal will cause more battery drain). maybe.. how does your signal look in the battery screen?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] qwerty1231121:
My batter history shows a mixture of yellow (when phone is in deep sleep) to green and grey during the day.

After fully charge the phone battery stat shows fast dormancy and mdm_hsic_pm0 is down to 23 min each out of about 13 hrs, which is excellent, but there's a new problem of "m3_jackdet" causing wake of more than 1 hr out of 13 hrs.

Any ideas?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
never heard of that one.

thinking about it..

m3_jackdet

m3 is our model number

jackdet? jack detection? audio jack detection? do you have something plugged into the audio jack? or have you installed anything that dicks around with the audio?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] qwerty1231121:
Lol, just have my headphone that come with s3 plugged into the phone the whole day, but I don't get why it's waking the phone if that's what it is.

I'm struggling to get 2.5hr of screen time on a full charge that's why i'm looking at everything. Most people get about 4 hrs right?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] Magik_Breezy:
I get about 7 screen time hours usually at least off a good charge

I can't think of why on earth your headphones would be waking up your phone unless notifications are classing themselves as m3_jackdet instead of the usual audio_out2 on speaker

Having things on like keystones (sound on key press) would also highly increase the m3_jackdet battery usage - all ofcourse presuming jackdet is the headphones which seems likely
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
"most people"? really it depends on how you use the phone. try another charge cycle with the headphones not plugged in, see how you go.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] qwerty1231121:
Yeah i'll try tomorrow without headphone

In the mean time here's some screenshots from bbs and battery graph. Would appreciate it if anyone can comment on them.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
we're getting a bit offtopic now, you should start a new topic probably.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] omniwolf:
Fast dormancy real life tests

Hi Guys,

Even though it appears fast dormancy is enabled on the Telstra network, with it enabled on our phones it does seem to create some nasty fast dormancy wakelocks. I originally just assumed that with fast dormancy disabled the battery life in real life would be worse, and the associated wakelocks would be hidden in other wakelocks not as easily identifiable. I never fully believed this, and over the last week I have been running tests to try and get some emperical results. Here they are:

Over the 4 days they were generally the same - about the same total usage (although the %s are interesting stats here, so how long I used the phone in each test isn't that relevant), same things syncing, and generally the same activities.

As you can see, fast dormancy off definitely seems to be the best for battery. The heavy usage day with fast dormancy off has about the same usage as the light usage day with fast dormancy on.

Interestingly, with fast dormancy on, both tests had about 65% deep sleep. When fast dormancy was turned off, deep sleep for both tests was at 81%. This is exactly the opposite of what I would have expected - with fast dormancy on the phone should go to sleep much quicker as the T2 cycle is about 50 seconds quicker. I don't get it, but results are results.

TL;DR - turn fast dormancy off, in my tests it reduced deep sleep by about 16%.

How to do this? You'll need root, I followed the procedure HERE. I've heard someone say the fast dormancy app by Gokhanmoral works for our phone, but that wasn't my experience.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] nonoldw:
"FastDormancy Toggle for i9300" from gokhanmoral works for my i9305. Finally my dormancy wakelocks are gone!
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] husky69:
That app mentioned above didn't work for me either. It gives an error about some SQL failure :(

Anyone able to confirm it works for them on an AOSP Rom?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] lokhor:
sorry the link is dead due to domain expiring. The new link is: http://androidnz.blogspot.co.nz/2012/06/at-your-own-risk-how-to-disable-fast.html
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mazinya:
Im contemplating whether i should get the 32GB WIFI and use it with a dongle or get the 3G version.

What is more preferred considering price and effectiveness?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slack04:
Price: Dongle + USB host cable = less than $50

Effectiveness: They'll both get you online; a dongle may be capable of 4g data (mine is)

Product that exists: The 3g nexus hasn't been released yet.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baileyjr:
^^^^ The flip-side is that the 3g version WILL be out in about a week and its more convenient not to have to carry a separate dongle.

Personally I have just ordered the Wifi version and will set it to automatically bluetooth tether to my phone when out and about. With the right set-up its as simple as knocking the Wifi off on the Nexus 7 for the tether to take place so its not an issue, never even have to touch or unlock the phone.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PcFish:
You could use wifi hotspot on your phone too. I currently do that with my HTC One S and 16 GB Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kendong2:
care to elaborate on that a bit? i have trouble bt-tethering, only works for a few minutes. i would expect it to be less battery consuming on the phone (gnex for me) than the wifi.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lukems:
I do this too.

It's a case of 2 taps on my phone, and my Nexus will detect and connect automatically.

But if I had to choose dongle or built in, built in for convenience, dongle if I wanted 4g.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mazinya:
I was indeed thinking about tethering to my Sensation, though im a bit afraid it might eat up the phone's battery too quickly when im outside and i will be left without or little battery.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aLPaSLaN07:
You can use OpenGarden app to tether via bluetooth..
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lukems:
Bluetooth uses a lot less power, I will do a test tonight with my one X.

I tend to find 5 hours of WiFi hotspotting on my phone will drain about 50% of the battery.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ÜBER™:
Hopefully I'm not intruding but how do you get a 3G dongle working? :o just an interesting thought.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus