yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] curtisf08:
Liverpool town center on 3 network. 10x faster than my pathetic sky broadband
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
what the hell I hardly get 2mbps what apn do you use
[Nexus 4 General] nowster:
3 has poor rural coverage compared with the other networks. I think it still relies on Orange to fill in the gaps with 2G.

You're best checking with the networks' own coverage maps and choosing between them depending on where you anticipate using your phone.
[Nexus 4 General] clidx:
Definitely 3, especially since you live in London. I would only pick O2 if they had a much better deal or I lived in an odd area; O2's coverage is a fair bit lower. 3 also have much faster speeds with OK H+ coverage.
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
Convince me that I should still get a Nexus 4...

Hello all,

I have been stalking this thread since November. Sad isn't it?

Fully expected to get a N4 when my existing contract finished in mid-Feb.

However, with the release of Sony Xperia Z, HTC One and imminent release of S4, coupled with the price drops in SGS3, the N4 isn't quite the bargain it was back in Nov.

(You can get a SGS 3 on a reasonable contract for £20ish/24mth now which is pretty much the same as N4 + decent sim only deal)

Simple question really N4 owners, would you still buy a N4 in today's market?

Ta!
[Nexus 4 General] timbohobbs:
I was in a similar dilemma and couldn't decide between the nexus 4 and s3. If you want pure android with quickest updates then go for n4 like I did. Also having twice the ram appealed to me, I'll be running this phone for 2 years and its more future proof than s3. Try them both out, but for me the only thing missing from n4 is the storage but that's manageable on the cloud easily enough.
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
As said above, the software updates and pure android is the main thing. You might be waiting a while for Key Lime Pie if you go for the S3 then no further updates after that probably.
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
Thanks both, my preference is definitely N4 still. Might team it up with my existing £7 Virgin mobile sim-only to start with.

However, maybe I will wait until Google I/O to see if a 32Gb model is released...
[Nexus 4 General] BlueAdvocate:
Also the reason why I have gone for it. Coming from an S2 as well I didn't want another Samsung, it's still a good phone though the S2.

To be fair the whole update delay is exacerbated as well by how long the operators take to stuff their crap on.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
I'm starting to notice my phone over heating than usual. Never had a problem with this RMA 302, till now. :(
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Mine done that, had PCB replaced. RMA it. Then do thermal hard mod.
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
UK Warranty length?

Still dithering over purchasing...

What is the warranty length from LG/Google for N4 from play store? Can't find details anywhere.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] CamoGeko:
It would be 1 year as usual on Android devices. :)

Nexus having 2GB RAM and future proof updates like Key Lime Pie means it beats every other device out there.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
People are not aware that in fact EU regulations state that any electronics are under 24 month warranty. After 1 year you have to go direct to LG (as I did anyway since I got mine from O² and they would have just forwarded it for me).
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
N4 will get the next version of Android and possibly further updates after, your OEM devices well who knows what will happen to them. If you want the latest and greatest software choose Nexus if you want better hardware and features the other phones offer go for them simple as, can't guarantee they'll get the new few versions of Android but you can enjoy them now.
[Nexus 4 General] nigelw:
My T-Mobile contact will expire on June 2nd, but they will only let me upgrade in the last 30 days, so I need to wait another month. There's a good offer for low voice usage from buy mobile phones at the moment, £15.50 for 24 months with 50 minutes, 250 text and 1GB data, so that's less than £100 more than buying the phone but with 2 years of connection. Not for everyone I know, but it suits me and is a good price. Just hope that offer is still available next month.
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
n4 just bought!

OK, I stopped dithering and have purchased the N4 at last.

Teaming it up with £7 VM sim-only 1200mins/1Gb.

Thanks for all the advice.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
^^^ This - came from Galaxy S and after 2yrs didn't want another Samsung - take a look at the design on EVERY Samsung - same 'Back, Home & Menu' buttons as my SGS1 = NO THANKS.

+ Samsung are terrible with updates not to mention once new model comes out they dump support from the model that your still stuck with for another year +

Yes they have lots of 'features' which are mostly just gimmicks that are ok showing off to the lads / round the office for the first week after you get it - then you'll never use them again - & that's if you can actually get them to work in the first place as they look good during the unveiling but that's about it.

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[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Anyone reached HSDPA+ speeds on T-Mobile? Since having the N4 I've never witnessed HSDPA+ speeds and only 'H' icon showing never 'H+'.
[Nexus 4 General] The H:
Question:

- Is 3 is the best network in London in terms of connectivity = DC-HSPA (HSPA+)?
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
OK, 2 days in and very happy with N4.

Only downside has been getting it to play nicely with Ubuntu 12.04...

Also, amazed at HSDPA speeds on v mobile, just got 20mbs.

But I need a case or bumper as it is as slippery as a bar of soap.

Also, what are people using as a car mount?
[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
I have never seen H+ on my phone either with T-Mobile/Orange and when I try to change APN settings, it doesn't seem to save them on my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
has any one got their play store updated
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
The H+ is ROM dependent - it was originally coded by CM so depends which ROM you're using -AOKP use it but other than this I'm not sure.

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Nope still on 3:10:14

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[Nexus 4 General] nowster:
... or that the UK's Sale of Goods Act says 6 years... and that whoever sold it to you (not the manufacturer) is always liable, even after several years.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives....whatwedo/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html
[Nexus 4 General] timbohobbs:
Anyone here on Tmobile "unlimited" data which is capped at 4mbs ?

It is pretty quick on this phone but has anyone found a way round it or even managed to get LTE ? I know Tmobile users in the U.S have flashed an older firmware to achieve this but I'm not sure what effect that would have on the capped data rate. Anyone able to shed some light ? :)
[Nexus 4 General] nickslg:
H+ works perfect for me on orange
[Nexus 4 General] Arzee08:
Yeah I'm on fully Monty T-Mobile, I used the method around these forums. Flash .33 radio added these build.props

( LteOnGsmDevice=1

net.tcp.buffersize.default=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960

net.tcp.buffersize.wifi=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960

net.tcp.buffersize.umts=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960

net.tcp.buffersize.gprs=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960

net.tcp.buffersize.edge=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960

ro.ril.hsxpa=2

ro.ril.gprsclass=16 (0-29)

ro.ril.hep=1

ro.ril.enable.dtm=1

ro.ril.hsdpa.category=28 (0-28)

ro.ril.enable.a53=1

ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=1

ro.ril.htcmaskw1.bitmask=4294967295

ro.ril.htcmaskw1=14449

ro.ril.hsupa.category=5) then dial *#*#4636#*#* changed to lte/gsm then there should be an option to change in mobile networks to lte/gsm/wcdma. I also looked up EE APN and added that to. With good signal I have had up to 20mbps and 12 Mbps down on H+ where usually its like 3/4mbps, hope that helps.
[Nexus 4 General] timbohobbs:
Thanks very much for that, it was just what I wanted to hear. Do you have a link for the thread to read by any chance ?
[Nexus 4 General] androidsnax:
Anybody know if virgin media are upgrading their masts just now? Connectivity went down over night and reconnected this morning, now I'm getting this kind of speed where about 5 down, 1 up was the norm before...

May be the time I'm trying at though, will test again later in the morning to see but holy moly, 20 up, 4 down is pretty fast :D

Glasgow by the way...

From the Nexus 4000
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Virgin media is piggybacking off EE network.

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[Nexus 4 General] androidsnax:
Right enough, must be them that are upgrading them,I had read something about it right enough.

Anyway, who needs LTE eh? Virgin unlimited for £12 a month... 3.5gb cap though!! :-\

From the Nexus 4000
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
There is absolutely no need for LTE yet. I'd rather see them spend money on lower frequencies so we get better signal and on infrastructure to provide good H+ speeds everywhere.

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[Nexus 4 General] androidsnax:
I know, it's as if folk think they're going to be surfing the net Matrix style... tomorrow :) "must have overpriced useless crazy speed downloads to watch funny videos and check status of cat"

From the Nexus 4000
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
was getting terrible speed on virgin broadband must be something wrong
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
301k starting to heat up when on charge near camera region FFS!
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
That's normal, especially if you're using it while charging
[Nexus 4 General] technomonkey:
Hi guys

Looking for bit of advice

I got my nexus 4 from O2 at launch.

I'm getting some erratic battery behavior where the battery just stops charging and evens out at a certain level (different each time) you can see from the screenshots it still says its charging but the battery doesn't go up. I'm using the supplied wall charger but this has happened about 6 or 7 times now.

It also seems to charge really slow some days (6 hours +) Also I have tried a couple of times to charge it while turned off and it hasn't charged at all so not sure what going on.

It looks to be a faulty battery and I think I might have to get it replaced.

Should I contact O2 or should I contact LG directly?

Anybody here that bought from O2 and had to get a replacement what was the procedure?

Any help greatly appreciated. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
Have you tried other chargers and USB cables?

My lead has broken. It has the behaviour you describe.

Edit. It charges as a USB trickle charge although it's in the wall. Disconnecting and connecting fixes it most times for me.

I bought from o2 on launch day. They would be the first place to get a replacement. Then LG.

But between my wireless charger and a 3£ replacement I'm not bothered.

I would be amazed if a faulty battery is the issue. It's infinitely more likely to be the cable or the port.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
O2 just forwards it to LG. I went with LG directly.

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[Nexus 4 General] xstarbuckx:
Second that. I'm on o2 and can't even get 3g where I am
[Nexus 4 General] technomonkey:
Thanks for the reply.

I don't have any other chargers at the moment. I will test another cable before I look to replace it. For sure

I read that a lot people are having problems with unofficial chargers and you should only use the supplied charger. Would O2 replace that if faulty? or would I need to fork out for a new one?

I want to get a wireless charger but I've been reading about problems with the orb etc and with mine sometime struggling to charge with the wall charger i didn't think it would be worth the hassle.

It does seem to work most of the time (although mostly slowly). It doesn't look like the port is loose or anything so hopefully it is just the cable.

The biggest worry is that it dies of battery and I cant charge it because it doesn't seem to charge at all while turned off.

Will need to test some more. Also its pretty weird that it says its still charging but it the battery meter is totally straight like its fully charged. doesn't seem to got up and down like a lot of battery problems

Edit: looks like the cable might be loose. When plugged in to my laptop if I wiggle the usb end it connects and disconnects. I found another micro usb cable and it isn't doing it with that so cant be the usb port. Will test out the other cable with the wall plug. Hopefully that will solve everything.
[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
I've tried a few friends chargers and they are all fine. That's how I know.

Many people tend to have problems with replacements because they are cheap bastards and buy no quality leads. They then blame the phone...
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Hmm interesting will give this a shot on full monty as well.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Where are such threads for the uk?

Nexus4 only supports band4 lte... If which there are none in the UK.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Correct :thumbup:

& not to mention the extra battery power that LTE consumes.

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[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Seems like LTE doesn't at least in newer phones. The battery life seems better with LTE on like the iPhone 5 and HTC one.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I guess it depends on who you talk too, there are 2 guys at work who say the battery is terrible (both have HTC One & the bigger version ? don't know what it's called)

+ I've not seen many good reports about LTE & battery life.

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[Nexus 4 General] CamoGeko:
Things might change soon!

Rumor: LG Nexus 4 with 32GB of Storage, LTE and Key Lime Pie Launching at Google I/O
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Meh. Non of it interests me personally. I'm good :o

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[Nexus 4 General] CamoGeko:
Hahah, that sounds like pretty hard pushed sarcasm to me mate :p
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
:)

Nope, honest opinion. Don't see benefit of LTE (more battery, money) and don't need 32gb. I'm set :p

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[Nexus 4 General] numbnutsuk:
Just move to the 3 network... I get 20mbps everywhere on H+
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
I seem to get 20+ everywhere on virgin mobile as well.
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
Do Virgin do truly unlimited data out did they cap it recently?
[Nexus 4 General] Roboffabike:
Don't know, I am on a 1gb deal at the moment, more than enough for me!
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Hardly possible in London, three is the worse for me in my part of London absolutely horrible speeds. Vodafone and EE and o2 are far better, Vodafone and o2 blazing fast at home but crap signal at work, settled with T Mobile at the moment get a solid albeit slower than the other 2 connection but it works well at work.

Three customer service is also notorious, the call centres are ridiculous.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Same on both.

If I'd had the choice when I ordered I would have gone with the same.

I try to use as little amount of storage as possible - not cos I'm short of space but just I don't want to fill up the phone with crap & slow it down.

My previous Galaxy S had 8gig + 16gig SD after 2 yr contract ended I'd used 3 & 3gig. Half of that was music - which is now uploaded on Google Music & I have now upgraded to UNlimited data with 3 so atm I have 9.3gb still left on N⁴.

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Never had any issues with the Indians at all, VERY friendly, polite & helpful.

You know what ? I'd rather deal with them ALL DAY LONG as opposed to the miserable fellow English staff :) & yes I've dealt with them on many occasions over the 4½ years I've been on 3

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[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
one thing i can say for sure three doesn't want to lose customer easily, whenever someone wants to leave three offers them with so many exclusives prices and plans than other networks. recently I've managed to get galaxy s4 on one plan for £33/month plus a home signal box free with my phone all i needed was little explanation over the phone with those Indian guys, they are really helpful
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Second that. Vodafone CS are just plain thick and "not bovvered". The only place you get good CS with Vodafone is Web relation team. They are good. Orange are as thick. I had to feed guy leading questions to get him to understand their **** up.

I'm on Orange now, but was with 3 for a long time. They did lack knowledge to start with, but now are a lot better now. Not as good as they should be, but helluva lot better than their local equivalent. The only reason I can't stick with 3 is because their reception indoors is crap.

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[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I have to agree with you. When I tell people I'm on 3, they reply with something like "their customer service is awful" but I always defend it. I've spoken to 3 on behalf of myself and my mother, who also has a contract with them, on several occasions. Every time they have been polite and helpful and if you're polite back they'll go the extra mile to help you out. :) They're really good, imho.

EDIT: I've also been with 3 for about 4½ years.
[Nexus 4 General] nellisere:
Virgin actually use EE, so T-Mobile and orange as well. I believe EE has started rolling out DC-HSDPA but I'm not sure in what areas, should be quite a few seeing as its only really a software update on the masts.

EDIT: seems that didn't quote and now I've lost the post, XDA app is messing with my head!
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
No one told me the N4 was a popular device! I'll have to get something else now in protest...

:p
[Nexus 4 General] TheSaladMan:
O2 nexus 4 unlocked

Anybody know if the O2 distributed Nexus 4 is carrier locked?

I'm getting quite conflicted reports from O2's customer services telling me it is locked and quite a few internet sites (including the first post in this thread) telling me it isn't so I was hoping to see if someone else who's bought one from an O2 high street shop could clear it up for me.

Unfortunately I don't have another network's micro sim to test it but for reference the Nexus 4 I've got DOES have O2UK printed onto the main IMEI sticker on the box.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
It isn't.

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[Nexus 4 General] Zenzic:
However popular it's been, I've still not seen another person with one. Strange really as it's such a deal for the specs.
[Nexus 4 General] Arzee08:
I got my N⁴ from o2uk on an 18 month contract, bills wur ridiculous so I threw sim away n got T-Mobile sim, I've never looked bk mate my fone ain't blocked and its been 4 months, answer to your question is no( mine also has 02UK above the barcode on the box but doesn't have an S/N number does yours???)

How do I take down that picture???
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Take the pic down and never ever post your IMEI anywhere.

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[Nexus 4 General] Arzee08:
PIC is down, some help would of been appreciated new to these forums tried to take down as soon as seen imei number was unblurred. I did edit my post and ask how to remove it.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
:thumbup::D

Maybe it was a typo.....

It was meant to be Galaxy S4

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[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
**edit**

All good now !

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[Nexus 4 General] Zenzic:
Couldn't you have gave your sim to a friend or family that doesn't use their phone so intensely. That way you could save yourself some money while they could save money by having all them free calls and text for little money say £5/7.50 a month.

Just my thought :/
[Nexus 4 General] Arzee08:
A hear what your saying but The sim card had over £120 worth of debt on it, snapped and binned was the only place for that. And was £30 a month sim card that I got with the fone ha £5/£7.50 a month contract for all those texts and fone calls I wish.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Totally OT;

Wigan the W'underdogs !

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[Nexus 4 General] hazwheel:
Ha ha, brilliant!
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Anyone who uses the `3` app.

I noticed (by accident) that the app shows an update on 24/5 in Play Store to V2.3 but my one hasn't updated & is V2.2.2 - with no offer of an update ?

Wogwaan ?

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[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
seen that too kinda weird :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] bmdixon:
It's probably the phased rollout feature. A Dev can set a percentage of people to get the update to check for issues before rolling out to everyone. Seen a few apps do this recently.
[Nexus 4 General] nellisere:
Quick OT, but on the 3 app, does yours show how many days remaining till your minutes refresh? Mine says days left, but then doesn't actually show how many days?
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
No it doesn't - believe it or not but I've had this bug since LAST YEAR ! :banghead:

I have it on my now retired Samsung Galaxy S as well as my nexus⁴. I've even contacted the Devs with a screenshot [they weren't even aware of the bug when I first emailed them].

Strange thing is that some people have never had the issue while others that did have had it fixed in previous updates (there have been 3/4 since it was first raised)

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[Nexus 4 General] LarsenB:
http://www.lgnewsroom.com/newsroom/contents/63454

White N4 finally announced
[Nexus 4 General] nellisere:
It's quite annoying, I shall send them an email aswell, hopefully more people complaining, the quicker it gets fixed.

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Really annoyed at LG for this, unless they can swap out a black one for a white one, would much prefer a white one.
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I'm happy with black as I don't want fools asking

"is that a Samsung Galaxy ?" :banghead:

Also, mine would turn a horrible creamy yellow as I'm a smoker (I'm not kidding either - even the cobwebs are yellow in my flat :eek::D)

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[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Hey Guys,

Strange things happened. I just noticed that my Sky apps have vanished from 'My Apps' in Play Store.

Even weirder I did a search for them in PS & there is no sign of them anywhere ?

WTF ?

*** edit ***

UNinstall sharpish - apparently they got hacked

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-bskyb-android-apps-were-hacked-and-replaced/

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[Nexus 4 General] 22sl22:
It was the Syrian Electronic Army. They hacked into Sky's app and took control. There's an article here
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Yeah - it seems i edited my original post at the same time as you guys were replying.

As you may have guessed i an am a Sky subscriber but even tho i watch sky news nearly every i don't recall seeing any news about it - funny :rolleyes:

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[Nexus 4 General] dhawk312:
I move to the UK tomorrow and plan on doing a Sim only plan. I have a giffgaff sim to try out their service for a month. What are the best service providers for the Sheffield area?
[Nexus 4 General] BLADESMAN1889:
Hey,

I'm from Sheffield :D though I don't live there anymore I do visit & I have been with 3 for several years - if you want the fastest (without LTE prices) then get on 3.

Ps, GiffGaff is my backup sim & they are nowhere near as fast.

PPs,

£12.90 gets you UNLIMITED data, 200 mins, 5000 txt messages.

If that isn't enough mins £16.90 gives you 600 mins instead of 200 (with same txt & data package)

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