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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
What do you need to store all of this on your phone anyway? It's a smartphone.. derived from the use of business needs not a portable dvd player. Google has cloud services anyway.. you can stream movies as well. You also have the ability of USB on the go (provided you have root, i think). I have 6gb left on my nexus.. all of my music is stored on google's cloud and I use a VPN to connect back to my home NAS for movies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevilStrider:
Not using cloud because then the data is no longer yours most the time. The mega upload case proves it. There were companies that stored data on megaupload that had nothing to do with piracy. Guess what, the federal government told them they have to come to court and fight to get there data back because the second they uploaded the data it was not theirs anymore. It was megauploads and since they have mega upload it's now their data.

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Also I have a 32gig GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EddyOS:
Is your tin-foil hat on tight enough? :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akira02rex:
Do you really think the government will take Google's servers? Highly unlikely...

Of all the music that's been uploaded to their cloud service how much of it is actually legal? Probably about 15% of it LOL.

I keep a copy of my music on my NAS and on Google's for secure's sake knowing it's an instant replicated backup.

The case with MegaUpload is that people were sharing the information publicly.. it was a clear intent to distribute pirated material. Google on the other hand doesn't have the same intention. All Google drives by default are set to private and can be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] torino216:
Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 063_XOBX:
There's a difference between the feds seizing MU's data and the data from one of the most influential companies in the world who also happens to be based in the US.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EnIXmA:
In my opinion 16 GB is good enough for an average user, I use Google drive for most of my storage and got 6-8 GB extra space on my gnex all the time. But Google should make 32 GB versions too for the new devices for people who does not have fast data speeds to make use of the cloud storage
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eddydc1:
16Gb is ok for meh
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Its all a scam.

Lower phone storage, encourage more cloud usage, institute data caps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
what you did there... i see it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ydyzzm:
16 G is too small.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] i8qbert:
Just got a Gnex on upgrade from Verizion. 32GB :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyhook:
The issue isn't cloud technology, nobody is arguing the merits of it. However, 16 GB may be enough for some but others want more. More should be an option and people are absolutely allowed to point out flaws. I find it humorous that just a little over a year ago the top two complaints about the iPhone were the lack of Adobe Flash and expandable memory. Oh how times are changing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
maybe there will be a 32gb version. Everyone was crying in the nexus 7 forums about "only 16 gb, why they make use cloud" now thers a 32gb nexus 7 so

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the one thing no every touch's on is, what if google launched a 32gb n4 with lte for all carriers for the lowest price. How would the open handset alliance feel about that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] b1337:
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the one thing no every touch's on is, what if google launched a 32gb n4 with lte for all carriers for the lowest price. How would the open handset alliance feel about that?[/QUOTE]

open and lte dont go hand in hand google has stated that already thats the deal
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strumcat:
Cloud storage sux. Ess Ewe Eks. Sux.

Slow.

Unreliable.

Expensive.

Drains battery.

Insecure.

This has been a public service announcement. We now resume our regularly scheduled Google Troll Posse reruns.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] montrealguy:
Cloud storage on that level requires a very large or unlimited data plan- which is beyond the reach of many people. I'm in Canada and 6gb is the largest data plan available.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fire n mage:
i finally reach 32gb limit on my gnex. Mostly vids, like.a hundred songs few games
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
cloud storage is the solution?

pfft...

tell that to average 3rd world android user.

internet is ****ty here,

and streaming media is not the solution for limited 16 GB storage.

nexus has great specs at lower price

the only downside is no sdcard slot.

why google, why..

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] al_madd:
Send google petition will not harm us..:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tijmen:
Simple solution is USB OTG. Get yourself a $2 adapter and your problems are solved. Of course a cable dangling from your phone isn't the most elegant solution, but it works. The reason they don't use SD card slots anymore is streamlining of the OS and making it less confusing, when you don't have two storage places you don't have to worry where your data goes. I appreciate this, because I don't watch movies when commuting or when I'm out in general, and can easily stream over WiFi when I'm at home or at a friend's or something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
actually, single storage like Galaxy Nexus is the source of confusion.

i remember the first time i get the device,

i put all the data like pics and music from previous device.

and then go to cwm, and doing a wipe.

and i accidentally wiping all my data.

our "virtual sdcard" is somehow stored on

/data/media/

while wiping data partition on recovery would wipe our precious personal data like photos, videos, etc.. not just apps and its settings.

on other device which using sdcard, wipe data partition is just like a factory reset, but on our device, that's a hell of a wipe.

while this confusion does not exist when we use sdcard as "personal file" data storage drive.

i still really like the concept of separating nand and sdcard.

nand is for apps and system file.

sdcard is for personal data like pictures, videos, musics.

also, nand partition is suc* big time.

transfering data to / from pc is so slow than USB storage speed.

MTP is a joke for me.

and please, try to copy > paste some old photo file from computer to galaxy nexus without changing the date modified,

i bet you can't, without doing some adb command.

date modified is altered, and it looks bad on gallery app, which has time-taken file sorting.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] secretasianman:
I love my Galaxy Nexus... but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better. You know what would make it better? Another 16GB of internal storage so I don't have to carry this OTG USB cable and flash stick around.

Cloud service is great until you have no signal or hit your monthly cap.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
Sure there are cloud services, but do you realize that there are A LOT of guys with limited data plans (<1GB/month)?

BTW, are you that guy who made "Worst game ever [MW2]" video for youtube?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshuajones:
16GB might work for a loser user.. but my gnex is at 30GB because of ROMS and backups!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pierceye:
Just my two cents, but if Google really wants to push us into using cloud storage, they need to find a resolution to a couple of problems. 1 would be battery. The newer network technologies that are fast enough to make cloud storage worthwhile also tend to consume a lot of battery life. 2 would be data caps. We have a Share Everything plan with Verizon and split 4 gigs of data on 3 lines. We couldn't even each stream a single movie with that allowance. So to me, expecting users to have that much of a limitation between their stuff in the cloud and their device is fairly unrealistic. I think the idea of cloud storage is a good one. I also think that some of the technology that supports it (battery, cellular) needs to mature further before it is practical for everyday use in a smartphone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NexusDro:
Apps are getting bigger and bigger in size these days. I thought Google has learned from the limited storage of the Nexus One. Google is proud of their 700k+ apps in the Play store and always encourages users to consume more content from their Play Store. Yet, it only puts 13 GB storage on their flagship phone. That doesn't make much sense to me. Also, what's the point of having the ability to record 1080p videos on the flagship phone if it doesn't have enough space to store them? I had to reduce the recording quality to 720p when recording videos on my sister's wedding. Yes, we did have dedicated video camera but it would be nice to have the videos saved on my phone too.

Don't get me wrong, 16 GB is enough for me personally, if I don't need to record high quality videos, which I rarely rarely do. I love my Galaxy Nexus and will jump to the Nexus 4 despite the shortcomings (it's funny though how the Nexus went from LTE 32 GB in the old phone to 3G 16 GB in the new phone). But can't some of you here, who are defending Google, see the point of view of the others? Sometimes I feel that the way Google does things now is similar to Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
These are budget priced devices. You can't have every awesome feature in the world and still keep the low price.

There are many Android devices with additional and removable storage. Pick one or live with the limitation imposed. I honestly feel that the only reason the 32GB Nexus 7 came out is because the cost to make them dropped and they could afford to without bumping the price.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
i think most of us, rather pay more 10-20 bucks for sdcard slot components.

than stuck at 16 GB.

and hey..

anyway i heard there's Galaxy Nexus+ will be out, and it has sdcard slot.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NexusDro:
Many budget Android phones actually come with an SD card slot. Aside from an SD card slot, I think most people will be satisfied if the Nexus comes with a 32 GB OPTION. It lets people who are willing to pay a bit more to have a choice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joooe:
Guys, the device was released 1 year ago! Surely the whole ram panorama was different from now, right?

And it's still just a smartphone, not a netbook.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
those budget phones also usually have older components such as processor.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It costs more than 10-20 bucks for more NVRAM and no there will not be a Galaxy Nexus+ coming out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
As mentioned before by Zepius, they come with other crap components.

They aren't shipping with Gorilla Glass 2, or SLCD-3 @ 720P. They certainly aren't quad core beasts with 2GB of ram and an ungodly GPU.

Notice I said budget priced? I never said it was a budget device.

Any OEM or carrier would have no whims about giving you an sd card slot and/or 32GB of storage with these same specs. They also wouldn't mind charging you 600 bucks for it as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strumcat:
Are you guys serious? sdcard slots are not expensive. They're trivial, cheap, and easy to implement. Bought an sdcard reader at Fry's lately? How many slots did you get for $4.95? 4? 8? lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
NVRAM is more expensive than RAM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
So tell me, how is it going retrofitting that reader into the GNex?

The price difference was in reference to additional NVRAM, not an sdcard slot.

Google already said why they don't use sdcard slots. If you don't like it, then get a different device. Google is not changing their philosophy for you.

http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pepper67:
Whats this VPN to home NAS thing? Sounds interesting.

And as for the cloud it showed you only get 5 GB for free. Thats not much at all. 2 movies and its full. Im not about to pay months fees and rack up my data to access stuff sitting on my computer waiting to be thrown on a sd card.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Google Docs: 5GB

Dropbox: 2GB

Skydrive: 7GB:

Those three alone comes out to 14GB for free. Dropbox is incredibly easy to get more space for free, too. I am up to 20GB.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pepper67:
Took long enough for someone to mention that. Lets not for a second pretend an sd card would cost an extra $100 to manufacture. But meanwhile on the nexus 4. Theres a price hike of $50 for a measly extra 8GB of storage. What is this 1995? Going way to much in the iphone direction.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Again, I misunderstood when I replied to the poster initially about costs with additional storage (I was referring to NVRAM), but the cost isn't the reason an sdcard slot is not included.

Google has a specific reason for it and they are not going to change their philosophy for a few people who aren't willing to work with it.

http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card

Google isn't going to include an sdcard slot. Move on to a different device if this is a deal breaker. Most people don't care about this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strumcat:
Don't be silly, adrynalyne. Google's arguments against sdcards are full of hooey, much like your own. People are going to keep wanting them because they make sense, and keep talking about it, even without your permission. If that brothers you, find another thread. Why frustrate yourself?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
real easy to rackup dropbox space.

i used google adwords to get my referrals maxed out. took about 12hrs and $10 to get an extra 18GB of free lifetime, referral space.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] umbra6:
I have no idea why people don't get what I bolded from your posts. That solution seems the simplest to me. Don't like the device get a different one with the options you want. If you want a device the way you want it then go manufacture your own phone and then tell us how easy it is to add memory again. There are plenty of phones out there already that have 32gb with a card slot...

It's Googles choice to produce a phone with the specs they want just like its your choice whether to buy it or not...sheesh.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
The only person frustrated is you, if you want me to find anther thread :) I never told anyone they couldn't talk about a thing, by the way. I just said Google isn't going to change it.

I am sorry you think my opinion is full of hooey. I didn't say that about yours. Maybe act a little more mature?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Agreed. It is like buying a car. Get what you want or need, vs. what you can afford. No one device can fit everyone's desires and needs. This isn't Apple, folks. You have choices!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] umbra6:
1995 is wanting large removable storage on a mobile device. 2012 is using remote storage, ie Cloud Storage.

Back in 1995 I had ane Apple Newton. Still have it. It had 20MB of storage. It cost too much for me back then to add an extra 20MB to it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] umbra6:
My last post was my sad attempt at having fun with this thread ;).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Actually, it does. Google has stated that they want storage to be unified, and you cannot do that properly with different storage types.

The price concern has nothing to do with lack of sdcard slots. See above. The price concern comes with larger NVRAM.

What makes a larger statement? Complaining about it on a message board, or answering with your wallet? It really is as simple as not buying it or getting something else.

Feel free to complain all you want, its your God-given right. However, that won't change a thing.

If I go to a car dealership and buy <insert vehicle> but am not happy with it because it doesn't contain the features I want or need, what kind of message does that send?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cilraaz:
Google's design philosophies drive Google's device designs. There is one thing that will change their design philosophies: a lack of sales. Unfortunately, there are two choices: get a Nexus device with 16GB storage or get a non-Nexus device with an SD slot. Whining on a forum isn't really a valid third option, since it does nothing to "fix" the supposed issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
+10000

I've been saying this until blue in the face, and instead of folks comprehending, they get angry with me LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
yea..

but as far as i know even in 2012, remote storage, ie Cloud Storage is way too expensive.

not the Cloud Service, but the data service, which is expensive.

okay, you could easily get proper ultra blazing fast internet connection for streaming thing.

but, most of us live in a country which fast internet connection is a luxury.

and again, battery dude, battery...

streaming cost more battery.

google says it is easier for end user to use single internal data storage to avoid confussion?

well, that's silly.

i (and i think many of you guys) would prefer [system+application+its file] and private data (photos, music, videos) are separated.

system+apps on nand: /system/ and /data/ partition

and private data on /sdcard/ partition.

just like many conventional budget android phone out there.

why? because i don't wanna messed up when my device gets broken.

at least i still have my private data safe on sdcard.

then i could easily re-install the whole rom, and my data is still there on sdcard stay unaffected.

your private data is priceless, while system and app data we could easily get it back by flashing the whole thing again.

it just senseless for me.

sdcard slot is not that expensive.

and yes i know, if i don't like it i shouldn't buy it.

but i just pointed it out that it just doesn't make sense when it goes: it's future thing, it's cloud computing era.

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please support these guys effort to bring external sdcard slot for nexus (and other) device.

it's still on prototype design, the final one should be on more polished form.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] umbra6:
I have Sprint and dont live in town but out in the sticks. I don't have "blazing" fast internet on my present Nexus lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LiquidXed:
So u use online storage ... cloud ect.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
I think this place is getting worse than Apple forums...

if you don't like or agree with something, better not bring it up or get flamed to the high hills.

In this day and age, 8gb and 16gb is just silly.

geez even pathetic Apple gets it and offers 32 and 64gb versions
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Not for $299-349 they don't. I think thats the point. I know you think its silly, and I agree (but am willing to make concessions for the price). However, I also see why Google is doing it, and also agree there.

That goes both ways. I've been flamed a couple times for simply explaining that other devices may be better suited, and also explaining why Google is doing what they are doing.

Regardless of your opinion, nobody on XDA has tolerance for any view but their own.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InfDaMarvel:
I use cloud storage and have 32gb on my gnex. Crazy how people express their dislike for it. I think 16gb is a good minimum though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
specially if that view is adrynalyne's view. he's the worst :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
yes yes..

cheap superfast cloud storage for everyone everywhere on earth.

which maybe only could happens like 10 years from now.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] derekwilkinson:
I wouldn't have gotten my Galaxy Nexus if Sprint didn't have the 32GB version. 32GB is perfect for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
so then offer higher versions that cost more, problem solved....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
...and I think Google will under one of two circumstances:

1. Prices drop enough to justify it.

2. The Nexus line becomes popular enough to justify it.

The Nexus 7 is proof that this is possible.

Right now the BIGGEST attraction the Nexus line has going for it besides frequent updates is the price and the Nexus devices do not sell enough to justify a third tier in pricing. The Nexus 7 is easily the biggest selling Nexus device ever. The phones don't even come close to it. If the phones take off, I believe they will change their strategy and offer more storage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
silly adrynalyne... using reason and logic...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pepper67:
The whole if you dont like it dont buy it because theres plenty of choice with android is such a dumb statement.

How many android phones are there out there that actually run the newest android OS and have an sd slot with 2012 hardware specs?

Unfortunately when it comes to all the benefits of android being on 1 device theres very little choice...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
The whole, "complain about not enough storage and no sdcard card slot is BS" yet, you still buy it is even dumber.

Google will definitely change their stance if you buy it...right?

This whole, "I want everything under the sun in my phone yet pay a low price" mentality is a little ridiculous.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strumcat:
You're absolutely right, adrynalyne. People who buy the Nexus 4 are just plain stupid. Couldn't have put it better myself. Thanks. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DirgeExtinction:
When did he call the people who buy it "stupid"? O_o
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah, I don't recall saying that either.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cilraaz:
You missed a qualifying statement. It should read: People who buy the Nexus 4 while complaining about it are just plain stupid.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bhowanidin:
Ooh I know the answer - Galaxy Note II and...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pepper67:
If you think the nexus4 not having an sd slot wont hurt sales your kidding yourself. Not saying it wont sell at all but Id bet money if they had 2 models, 1 with and 1 without an sd it would be clear which would sell better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I don't think it is a concern for Google. The Nexus device is more t showcase their latest and greatest software achievements than anything else. It is also quite handy for another target audience: developers. It is much more useful to test and develop software on a phone than an emulator.

If Google was trying to really push the Nexus line, they would sell it online, multiple stores, sink money into heavy advertising, and so forth. They aren't doing that. Most people who are either not on Tmobile, or don't hang around tech sites won't even know of the Nexus 4. That hurts sales more than the lack of an sdcard slot.

Apple has shown time and again that the masses don't care about sdcard slots. Their lower end iPhones sell very, very well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strumcat:
I know. I was just ribbing adrynalyne, but looks like I wasn't very clear about it.

And to adrynalyne's credit, he seems to take the ribbing pretty well, an admirable quality. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sshede:
Open-minded to using battery to stream and play 720p video instead of just playing it? That's silly. 16GB of NAND is, what, 10, 20 bucks?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dreamliners:
I also agree that 16gb is too tiny.

Several loseless music images eat up storage very quickly.

You all know that virtual drives won't really help because of limited cellular data use.

Im waiting for GS4 with exynos 5 quad.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Show me where 16 GB of NVRAM is 10-20 bucks. Thanks. Specifically, the NVRAM that these phones are using.

If you link a thumb drive, I will put you on ignore ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] marhensa:
actually..

what are we discussing?

does google wrong or something?

and then so what do for the solution?

Sent from Galaxy Nexus - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.2