yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/mobile_phone/pay_monthly/init/LG/Nexus_4?cm_mmc=googleuk-_-Handsets-_-Handset%20-%20Nexus%204%20-%20O2%20-%20Tablet-_-Nexus%204%20o2%20nexus%204%20Exact&gclid=CMjc9NGf2bMCFefMtAodlQMAnw

Choose the top one at 13.50 a month, do it through quidco to get the cash back. Then try and get the open discount added then remove the data bolt on.

Can't guarantee it will work as I can imagine O2 getting funny about not claiming the open discount when you first take the contract out.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
So what's the cheapest we can get this without the open discount ... is it £400 then -50 through quidco? So £350?
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
I think quidco is only for contracts.

ETA: from what I've read, the O2 open discount is only available over the phone or instore so I'm not sure how someone has got quidco and open discount?
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
Although I'm gonna send my nexus back to o2 store but for curiosity I tweeted my nexus phone with receipt but haven't got any reply from o2 about TV

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Also wondering as i bought my nexus from o2 store is it possible to get 50 pounds cash back. Saw on the previous post
[Nexus 4 General] crisahan:
just had a chat with the online sales agent, he denied that £100 discount straight away...

looks like they don't wanna offer that discount...

i will pop in to the O2 shop tomorrow and ask again...
[Nexus 4 General] t0ph0id:
The £100 open discount was for people who's employers are with O2. Not a standard discount.
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
My open discount with the fire service is only saying £50 off contracts under £20 anyway so it wouldn't even be worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] crisahan:
so the best deal we(normal people) can get is 179.99+10.5*x24-(50 quidco)=420(370)...is that right?
[Nexus 4 General] 12078215:
Always intended to return it. I just wanted a few days with it to make sure I was happy to wait 3 weeks for my play store order to arrive! And wanted to check out the battery life. It's a nice phone and a definite noticeable upgrade from my S2 with shocking screen burn in!
[Nexus 4 General] PWF:
Just a note though guys, money from quidco can take months to come through. It's not instant.
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Or never. Still waiting on that £20 for my Xperia Play I bought last year.
[Nexus 4 General] PWF:
Precisely, I think it largely depends on the retailer. So don't take the money as a definite!!
[Nexus 4 General] jparnell:
has anyone been told their getting a TV from o2? We've tweeted them tonight but no reply yet but maybe they don't tweet back Sunday night? Would really help with the cost of the phone if we got a tv out of them!
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
Can you not apply for a sim only contract through quidco to use in your phone then use the open discount to buy the phone minus the top up and add the open discount to the contract after you have the sim? It's far more complicated than just waiting for the play store to get some stock in
[Nexus 4 General] MDaveUK:
Yeah. It's not bad really, if your not already on a contract. But I am so ... don't really want another 24 month contract to worry about :P

I think I'll wait the extra couple of weeks and save 100 quid.
[Nexus 4 General] oawalker:
yea they would probably reply on monday
[Nexus 4 General] LawAce:
Samjpullen from xda and YouTube claims to have won one.
[Nexus 4 General] jimbob_me:
So guys, I decided to bite the bullet and buy a nexus 4 from an O2 store on Saturday. My logic was that I would buy a nexus for £399, try it out for a few days, if I like it, keep it and sell my S2 for £150. If I don't like it, either take it back or sell it on.

Anyway, here's how my trip to the O2 store unfolded:

Phoned O2 store in Cardiff on saturday morning, they confirmed that they had 3 in stock. Good stuff!

Went into Cardiff, queued in the first O2 store for about 20 mins only to be told that they only had one left and it was on reserve. Bugger, the woman checked if the other O2 store in Cardiff had stock and it did. Lucky!

Bolted to the next O2 store, thankfully didn't have to wait in a queue. I tell the lady that I would like to buy a nexus 4 on pay as you go and she said 'oh I'm sorry, that handset isn't being sold on PAYG for another 3 weeks yet', to which I said that it was and that the lady in the previous O2 was fully prepared to sell me the phone on PAYG if she had it in stock. She asked me if I was going to use an O2 sim with the device to which I replied that I was going to use a tesco sim, which is technically the same thing. (I found her question to be needless due to me buying the handset outright, rather than a contract).

Anyway, she went and got the store manager who told me that he wasn't aware that the phone was being sold on PAYG yet, to which I told him that it's plain to see on the O2 website. He then told me numerous times that the phone was locked to O2 and wouldn't work with any other network. I argued against this as I knew that none of these devices are locked to any network. Either way he agreed to sell me the phone just as long as I would buy a £10 top up on a PAYG SIM card. Fair enough.

Just before paying I was told by another member of staff that the phone would not work with any other network and that it would void my warranty if I tried to get it to work on any other network. So they were essentially trying to bully me out of buying this phone.

When it came to paying, the woman rang it through the till, but not before saying 'so, by buying this you are confirming that you are aware that this device is locked to O2 and won't work on any other network' so I agreed... Lah de da. She the handed me over the phone, sim and receipt and didn't even look me in the eyes when doing so, she didn't even say thankyou. Bloody O2 people don't like it when people come in who know more about the device than they do.

Got it home, boffed my sim in and hey-presto, picked up tesco H+ straight away. I'm getting on well with the nexus now :).
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
I had an almost identically tedious experience with o2 staff. Horrible shops, joke tariffs, incompetent and rude staff. Disgusting.

They've clearly been briefed and are giving out misinformation which must be against some trading standards laws.

I begrudgingly paid them and put me off them for life.

Regards,

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I wonder if people are, for example, buying up the latest phones on payg. That is 1 less phone their shop has (that they can sell on contract) to make a comission from.

Sounds probable to me. That sounds like a good enough reason to me for them to act like complete ****s.

Regards,

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Having said all that I'm happy paying extra and being an early adopter of this phone. My S3 is gone (and good riddance). N4 is a class act.

Used toolkit last night to unlock boot loader and rooted. Easy as peas.

Now waiting for some ROMs. :D
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
Hilarious and unsurprising. Those clowns are useless. You should have just not mentioned the Tesco sim and just said yes when he asked you about using an O2 sim to avoid the unnecessary hassle.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
What he said. Make a complaint please. You're parting with your hard earned cash and to be treated like a moron is unacceptable.
[Nexus 4 General] LikwidGaming:
Some of the O2 salesman are just plain dumb. They dont know what they are on about.

finally congratulations on your NEXUS 4, enjoy but let me warn you will be a bit disapointed in the battery life

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I dont know about that, i have the receipt. IF they don't give a TV as said. I will be very disappointed and will return the set :P
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
If o2 staff are rude to you make sure you remember their name and the store and tweet @o2 to complain.

O2 need a big shake up if they want to compete in the modern market. Their ridiculous tariffs and rude staff will make people avoid them more and more. I can't imagine anyone going out specifically looking for an o2 contract, I suspect their only customers are people still stuck with them or people who can't be bothered changing.
[Nexus 4 General] @home:
I thought the people who idoled about in p4u shirts where retards but it looks like the lazy buffoons who idol about in O2 shirts talking drivel are coming in at a close second.
[Nexus 4 General] snowdej:
o2 tactics

Hi

when I saw

It seems to me that they will be long past the 250 people.

They are using it to ensure people go past their statutory returns or cooling off period

In addition the timing is interesting

28 days will be when their exclusivity deal comes to an end and we'll presumably see cheaper prices from other networks

I am also assuming that people on contract will be entered too - not just outright purchasers

It seems like a cheap way for LG and o2 to stop people doing a return of the phone when other people start selling it and to deflect the criticism of price gouging that will ensue if cheaper prices are on the market within a month.

Jools
[Nexus 4 General] will444:
Same happened to me, I went to my o2 store and on the display model it says pay as you go £399. I asked if they had stock, they did. But, they wouldn't sell me one as they suddenly had been sold in the 5 mins I was in the shop?! They said they couldn't sell me it pay as you go, so I argued back saying "I'll order one right now from your website pay as you go then" they looked like I was joking so being the person I am, I stood there and ordered one:) as I walked out the store feeling like a God I turned around and said "oh and I'll be using the phone on vodaphone because the phone is fully unlocked" and off I went :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Similar thing happened to me, they said no. So I did the same stating that it was available online and I had also rang ahead before confirming that I could buy it SIM free when confirming they had stock. After some clear deliberation the manager came over and stated that they could sell it SIM free but was I aware it was locked to o2. I said I was aware it wasn't locked at all and he was wrong but I would have the phone even if he still believed it was. He said I was wrong and brought me out the phone, selling it SIM Free. I opened it in the shop and popped my 3 SIM in and voila it worked. Should have seen his face :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
What a great first post, and sums up my thoughts exactly on the situation, you think they'd have learned from the Nexus 7 launch but they didn't the experience [for me] is a lot worse
[Nexus 4 General] Blocoholi:
I now try my luck in an o2 store or carphonewarhouse. I tell them I want to use the 02 payg sim card they will give me to avoid any nonsense. I will use then my orange sim card.
[Nexus 4 General] rickykemp:
*sigh* still no change with my order, showing delivery date 15/11/2012. No charge pending now, and I got the back order email.

The thing that really annoys me is that I was told catagorically to 'not worry, as it all looks OK to me, and will be with you by Monday'. Shame I didn't use the voice recording feature on my SII.
[Nexus 4 General] Brodel:
Given how the release as gone, I wouldn't believe anything until the phone is actually in your hands.
[Nexus 4 General] rickykemp:
Totally agree with you on that.
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
So you guys paid £400 for a £240 phone? No cashback or a voucher thingy either?

If it is the case please do not moan about O2 staff. You are doing bussiness with vultures. What did you expect?
[Nexus 4 General] vinnyutd6899:
I bought mine from the o2 shop in the Trafford centre, i was told at least 5 times that the phone was locked to o2 and would now work with any other network! i only asked once haha! anyway i knew it was unlocked so just told them i would be using a o2 sim card, got home and put in my t mobile sim and hey presto it worked.
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Doesn't matter what price you pay for the phone, you don't pay for customer service. o2 as a company maybe over pricing the phone but that doesn't mean each store in various areas has to treat customers with such blatant disrespect. If I am paying more for a handset I would expect slightly better service - especially when you compare it to the amazing and decisive service the majority seem to have received from Google themselves *cough*
[Nexus 4 General] jaybeerex:
While i appreciate that we are all still of the opinion that Google don't have enough phones and that this is the primary issue.

1) has ANYONE, seen a nexus 4 bumper in the wild yet? i haven't seen a single user picture of one, and wonder what the situation is with this.

2) The american thread has lots of people getting adjustments of the dates showing in the orders tab of the play store, has any UK buyers seen any change from the ordered 13th, delivery 15th yet?
[Nexus 4 General] Nickedynick:
Since no one has any idea when the Nexus 4 will be back in stock, I've created a Python script which checks the UK page for the 16GB version and posts regular (half-hourly-ish) updates to Twitter. It actually checks the page every minute, so hopefully it will provide an update as soon as it's available.

If you want to follow it, the account it's using is @nickedydev.
[Nexus 4 General] spences10:
This is what Google has reduced us to

Sounds like you should make a Chrome Extension out of that, I'd be interested to see it, I'll mention you on twitter or something
[Nexus 4 General] Nickedynick:
I was using an auto refresh extension, but since my work's internet goes through its US proxy, I wasn't getting the UK page.
[Nexus 4 General] Sport666:
Thank you very much. This is what I can use in Denmark.

GN
[Nexus 4 General] jparnell:
Just received a message from o2 to say we've won a TV! Anyone know what one we'll be receiving? Things have worked out better than buying direct from the play store considering the discount as well.
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
Would you upgrade it to follow both the 8 and 16 GB ones and make it post the status of both in the single 30 minute update?
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
Same here man! :) makes the phone free pretty much. Going direct paid off.
[Nexus 4 General] savo83:
I honestly think we're going to get shafted for orders as it looks like they're trying to fulfil the US back orders due to their upcoming thanksgiving holiday.

If this is the case, I'll be cancelling immediately. I'll check their thread later tonight to see if they get any shipping notifications after getting the back order emails.

Logic would dictate that there are distribution centres around the world that receive stock. However, this is Google and the only thing I've learned from this whole experience is that they can't be trusted.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Idiot.

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What's the deal with the competition?? I've just got a DM from o2...

Regards,

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What happens once you send back your details??
[Nexus 4 General] Baz8755:
Anyone called Google today to get the latest story?
[Nexus 4 General] Nickedynick:
I was thinking of doing that. I'll change the script when I get home.
[Nexus 4 General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
They should DM back saying that it will be with you in 28 days.
[Nexus 4 General] jparnell:
Yep, we got a message to say we'll get a TV as long as we don't return the phone. Pretty good!
[Nexus 4 General] TonyLeMesmer:
I believe this is the TV we should be getting.

http://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-32LS575T-smart-tvs
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Happy days!! Just got DM.

How do you know that's the TV? I'm not expecting much but if I can get a bit back I'll feel better.

Regards,
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
Ok Just been talking to Google order customer services and this is the latest information,

I asked if he could give me an update to my order and that it seems that in the US at least they are getting shipping emails through, he said that he did not know how or why they were getting their back orders full filled before the UK , I also asked why someone in their call centre higher up was NOT taking a more active roll in getting updated information out to all customers and that Google should make a press release apologising and giving more detailed information, he said that "they are actively bugging Google daily but have no more information available yet"

So finally I asked, If the customers who received the back order email were waiting on Google or TNT to fullfill those orders OR If they were waiting for a SECOND BATCH of Nexus 4's and he said "we are waiting on the manufacturers to send a second batch and it could take UPTO 3 weeks"
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
I'm hoping for this.

http://m.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-84LM960V

I'm expecting this. :p

http://m.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-19LV250U-led-tv
[Nexus 4 General] TonyLeMesmer:
That's the one the people who purchased from The O2 are getting (one of the guys posted it on twitter at least), so hopefully it's the one we're all getting.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Confirmed!!!
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
oh damn! thats sweet! really wish i bought from o2 now! i take it the 250 has been fulfilled

or can i still get it?!
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
This is a bit cheeky, seller saying he ordered 2 from Google when the photo clearly shows it's one from o2...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-Google...28927?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item416e70519f

Bit out of order if you ask me...although I'm sure someone will fall for it
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
yeah what a lying git.....:(
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Can someone give me more info on the free tv thing? im seriously considering it if it has a free tv
[Nexus 4 General] fleonard:
I think it's gone now. O2 will send you a TV if you are on of the first 250 to buy the new nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
£399 in Currys. Happy coincidence. :D

I think I'll go back to o2 shop and gloat to the staff. I'm not joking. Horrible people.

Regards,
[Nexus 4 General] 666fff:
Woohoo!

just got my nexus! Trust me it is worth the wait!!!

:cool::cool::p:cowboy::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
damn i missed it :(

Don’t live in London? No worries – O₂ are giving LG TVs away to those who buy their Nexus 4 from another O₂ store, through their website or through their call centre too. Just tweet @O2 with a picture of you and your new Nexus 4 and tell us why you’re excited about life using the hashtag #lifesgood. We’ll be watching out for people tweeting for the first couple of weeks and your pic could net you a new TV!

doesnt say anything about 250 here though

what exactly do you have to tweet?
[Nexus 4 General] hmethven:
Are there any free TVs left now? I just reserved one at my o2 shop. I won't buy it unless I can tweet them and get one. How do you find out?
[Nexus 4 General] chapperz:
Don't know if they've necessarily filled the first 250 devices yet.

I certainly wouldn't go out and buy a Nexus from O2 thinking you'll get a free TV as you'll probably be disappointed, but I think there's still a chance.

It seems that most people that posted on Twitter last night received a DM from O2 today asking for delivery details, etc, myself included :)
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
Did you get the backorder email?
[Nexus 4 General] chapperz:
Most people just tweeted a picture of them with their phone or their phone and receipt ;) Along with @O2 and #lifesgood
[Nexus 4 General] hmethven:
Any way to track how many people tweeted their receipt?
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Well its really annoying, because its worth it 100% if you get the tv, but if you dont, then not so much
[Nexus 4 General] TonyLeMesmer:
You can always return the phone if you miss out.
[Nexus 4 General] big_b0sss:
Holy crap I was almost returning my nexus to o2 but luckily I tweeted my nexus @o2 now got DM about the TV I'm supper happy now. Keeping my nexus. Its worth now 409.99 nexus 4 + 32inch TV :D
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
If you do it online, can you just post a picture of the reciept without the phone
[Nexus 4 General] TonyLeMesmer:
Think you need the phone as they ask for your IMEI number via DM.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
ah cool thanks for replying
[Nexus 4 General] TonyLeMesmer:
Might be worth checking direct with o2 though.
[Nexus 4 General] kaiowas82:
What's DM?
[Nexus 4 General] nintendolinky:
I also got the DM on Twitter and I'm getting a the TV. I was so close to returning the phone and going for the Note 2, glad I didn't now
[Nexus 4 General] AngryRabidBadger:
Direct Message - Like PM - but not

When did you tweet? Considering trying this myself
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
Direct Message.
[Nexus 4 General] hmethven:
When did you tweet your receipt and when did you receive the DM?
[Nexus 4 General] AvRS:
I got a message asking me to follow them so they can get some details :) I'm hoping it's a free TV coming my way which from what people are saying it seems like.

If you want to see how many others already have tweeted them just search for @O2 #lifesgood which I've just done and definitely doesn't look like 250.

Keeping my fingers crossed :D
[Nexus 4 General] wolfboy1984:
All that won tweeted last night I think. But I did it 2hours after reading about it in THIS thread.

Regards,
[Nexus 4 General] 666fff:
No, I just missed the TNT guy last week so got it today instead.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I'm fairly certain they're shipping from the word go. Processing won't take that long, and shipping is 1-2 days in UK (shipped with TNT).

In the nicest way possible, I really hope you're wrong. I want my phone this week. :P
[Nexus 4 General] ermacwins:
So will it only be available through google play or will it end up in other retailers?
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
As far as we can make out, it'll be available through other retailers but not SIM-free for, like, another month. We're not completely sure. The only place to get it SIM-free on release will be Google Play.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
A wild bumper has appeared!

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_4_Bumper_Black?id=nexus_4_bumper_black
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Yeah, seen that. Price a bit steep though. And it makes it thicker... Wasn't sure but for that price, he'll no.
[Nexus 4 General] Makaijin:
Well spotted. Now let's hope the wireless charging orb shows up as well.

At least it isn't priced like the iBumper ala £30.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
It makes me worry about the price of the Wireless Charging Orb - this is just the freaking bumper! Sheesh. :P

Apparently that won't be sold through Google. It'll be sold through Amazon and other third-party companies. Nothing yet, just did a quick search.
[Nexus 4 General] Makaijin:
Well one can always hope.
[Nexus 4 General] theoneofgod:
The bumper won't protect the back, so not for me!
[Nexus 4 General] Makaijin:
Well if it also protected the back then it would be case and not a bumper anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] TeRRa4:
I ordered myself one of these earlier. Hopefully it'll do me well. I don't plan on buying a bumper for this phone, but a pouch for it should be okay. :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310498112726?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[Nexus 4 General] pichu23:
anyone having any luck in the uk store yet ?

was about to sleep then i refreshed and saw the threads being bombarded...
[Nexus 4 General] NeostarNeko:
Google Music is available in UK
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
No pouch for me, as from my experience I tend to drop phone when pulling out from the pouch. :D

Pouces work well for women which chuck the phone in the hand bag, but for me it's perfectly safe in my pocket. If I do get anything it will be skin.
[Nexus 4 General] NeostarNeko:
I'd want a jelly case for mine