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[Nexus 10 General] eltidi:
I m waiting for the notebookcheck review, they are the only ones doing this with a technical point of view, they will measure temperatures, idle power cconsumption, I/O performance and a lot of stuffs other reviews just miss. The endgadget review prefer the asus tf700,but that tablet suffer from dismal emmc performance that really bottleneck the tablet, nobody mentions that and the fact tt asus tablets usually eat your battery in standby mode. The I/O performance has a huge effect on web browsing and the tablet performance, seeing how the galaxy tablets don't suffer from this, this one should also be good to go.
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
Well balanced review, still on a pre-release model. There's some occasional lag in Chrome browsing they say, but the optimized one is only coming out with the final version. The Nexus 10's colors seem the most accurate, nice deep tones.
[Nexus 10 General] Titan®:
God work, thanks josuetenista
[Nexus 10 General] Croak:
Also, do this: Go to the full Verge website on ANY device and watch it stutter.

Hell, it makes my desktop 2700K @5Ghz with a GTX-670 crawl at times at 1080p while it tries to load all those elements and fancy-but-not-optimized HTML5 code.

Even The Verge reviewer acknowledged this fact in the comments. But people are looking at that stutter in the video review and jumping to all kinds of conclusions and using it as ammo for their side of the fanboy argument.
[Nexus 10 General] JFMFT:
That's very true. My laptop stutters occasionally on The Verge's website, and I chalk that up to all of, as you said, the fancy-but-not-optimized HTML5 elements/code. Even with the AOSP browser, which is smoother than Chrome, struggles a bit with that website on my Nexus 7. I think the unfortunate part is that people who are anti-Android are trying to use this as an example of how bad and laggy Android is when in reality that's not true at all.
[Nexus 10 General] 2lines.pl:
I dont remember where but I've seen an article that nexus 10 lose with ipad 4 in sunspider benchmark. Can anyone tell me what wrong is with webkit that the browsing the web on nexus 10 is (in theory only) worse then on ipad?
[Nexus 10 General] phobium:
I don't believe the shipping version of Chrome was optimized for Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 General] Requiable:
Cool. Thanks
[Nexus 10 General] whoster69:
Another review of the Nexus 10 at http://mashable.com/2012/11/04/nexus-10-review/
[Nexus 10 General] newbiew:
good day

very nice topic.., i very like this threas post...__

Keep up a good work...
[Nexus 10 General] vittogn:
I hope you are righ, unfortunately I saw some videos of the Nexus 4 browsing and it is not as smooth as the stock Samsung browser of my stock Samsung Galaxy S3.

I really hope Chrome will be updated soon.
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
Mashable says final 4.2 comes out when the tablet is released, does it mean you'll have to update yourself?

Anyways, it looks like the Nexus 10 is superb on the screen and excellent on the CPU front, where, at least on beta, the 4M-pixel screen somewhat limits 3D performance, still delivering premium numbers, but not groundbreaking. Battery life in the beta state is good but not great, the biggest issue remains the lack of tablet-optimized apps, something Google expects to be sorted out in the upcoming months. Multi-user, miracast and 4.2 optimized Chrome performance is yet to be tested, but crossover verdict says it's the best Android 10" package but not quite ready to dethrone the iPad yet. It does start a $100 below that however.
[Nexus 10 General] DeViL_DiCe:
In every review the resolution appears to be best there is, but at the same time it seems the excessive resolution drains the battery faster, etc... This may seem like a dumb question but do you think it will be possible to lower the resolution of the nexus 10? For example, lower it to the iPad 4 level or the Infinity, so the tablet has a much better battery life?
[Nexus 10 General] king conan:
The panel has a fixed (native) resolution (number of pixels phisically) and you can't change that.
[Nexus 10 General] Rage1ofakind:
I remember downloading an app some time ago which changed the resolution of the screen. Required root though, let me look it up and I'll update this post.

Edit: LCD Resolution (Root) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemobs.android.lcdresolution&hl=en

Edit2: Sorry it says it only changes the density, making it look like you changed the resolution. But it will still probably make apps that are blown up look better :P
[Nexus 10 General] Buck1969:
Where things stand right now, having read the reviews and watched the videos, I'm going to buy the Nexus 10, but will wait a couple weeks to hear peoples' real-world stories.

I'm looking for a tablet for productivity as well as media consumption. I'm a lawyer, and have watched as colleagues have adopted the iPad with vigor, and there are a ton of great apps out there. That said, I can't find myself getting on board with the Apple universe - I've done the iPod thing, and my son received an iPad as a gift when they first came out a couple of years ago. While I appreciate their appeal - the new iteration of the iPad is compelling - I just can't get over the cult like atmosphere that permeates the whole experience.

As for Windows 8, I had a chance to play around with the Surface yesterday, and it's a nifty device. And the native Office applications would be really great for me professionally, since that's the set of programs I spend the most time using for business on any given day. But the limitations of Windows RT are really a drag. Also, the pricing is rather high compared to Android tablets, and becomes even more onerous when you start considering Windows 8 Pro devices that are a couple months away from market.

So as I said before, it really comes down to Asus TF700 vs. Nexus 10. The Nexus 10 ultimately wins for me on the higher resolution, processor and software (assuming some of the pre-release bugs are worked out), and would be a complete no-brainer if it had a keyboard dock available .
[Nexus 10 General] flight777:
New video by TechRadar :good::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knQlOkN8uXE
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
I very much hope so they stop reviewing it until the final version reaches the stores with the intended release update.
[Nexus 10 General] glynnad:
Thanks

I am currently looking for a new phone, so being able to find one thread with all the reviews is awesome. Thanks again.
[Nexus 10 General] raycpe:
One more review (Tech Hive)

8hrs 55 mins battery life playing a HD Video loop with 200 nits brightness...Not bad.

http://www.techhive.com/article/2013567/review-googles-nexus-10-is-the-android-tablet-weve-always-wanted-almost.html
[Nexus 10 General] Techie2012:
CONS

Slow charging over standard MicroUSB
[Nexus 10 General] Randomwalker:
As is to be expected for a 0.9Ah battery.
[Nexus 10 General] GETCASHMONEY:
These more recent reviews make me want the nexus 10 even more than the initial harsh reviews. Can't wait!
[Nexus 10 General] the_boo:
The veraash video review is just a ripoff of Engadget...
[Nexus 10 General] Sensamic:
I need to see a video of another browser's performance on the nexus 10 before deciding to buy it.

It's amazing how bad lag there is on chrome on every video review of the nexus 10.
[Nexus 10 General] Croak:
And this might finally shut people up that complained about proprietary connectors on big tablets. Or not.
[Nexus 10 General] Atradees69:
excited :D
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
Techradar gave it the same 4,5/5 score as it did to the iPad4. Still on prerelease SW. Will the likes of PA and GSMA wait for the proper version b4 reviewing?
[Nexus 10 General] koptev:
best of nexus 10 review

androidpolice.com/2012/11/08/nexus-10-review-good-because-pixels-and-other-reasons/
[Nexus 10 General] MikeBuck:
CNET UK Review - http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/ipad-and-tablets/google-nexus-10-review-50009632/
[Nexus 10 General] Rage1ofakind:
Wow. That review is probably the best one out! He really went in depth and wrote more like he's chatting to us about it rather than being a robot and listing whats good and what's bad.

Plus as he mentioned, everyone with the Nexus 10 atm don't have it equipped with the final software. So expect more polish on release day :D
[Nexus 10 General] Techie2012:
CNET UK allows users to post reviews for a product that hasn't been released yet???
[Nexus 10 General] GTabJosh:
Yup. And I was very happy to read this part:

So, here's the thing with most of these benchmarks: they don't tell the whole story. In fact, they don't tell most of it. The bulk of them are pretty weak, and if you judge this tablet entirely on the numbers you see above, then you're selling it short. Very, very short. The performance is there, no question about it. The benchmarks may not show that, so you'll just have to take my word for it - I promise I wouldn't lie to you.

I was actually shocked when I saw the first benchmarks and basically wrote off the N10 as a premium performance tab. After reading the Performance intro, my faith has been restored :) I don't know that I'd go back to a 10" tab, but the N10 actually has me considering it.
[Nexus 10 General] Croak:
Ars Technica review:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/nexus-10-tablet-is-a-solid-house-built-on-shifting-sands/
[Nexus 10 General] enlan:
Nice review, bad result.

Don't know what to do, right now the Ipad ist still better :(
[Nexus 10 General] Croak:
Depends on who you are. Me, as much as I admire the hardware, I simply can't use an iOS device because it doesn't do what I want and need it to do. So, for me, it's the worst tablet, by far, because it can't do the job.

I could care less about a good Twitter app, since I don't use that service, nor Facebook. Nor do I care about TinyInfinityBladeAcademy1000000, since I don't game on my tablets either (they ALL suck at that compared to a PC).

What's that leave me missing? I can't use Paper (wait, I can't draw anyway). I can't use Garage Band (wait, I'm tone deaf). I can't access the vast iTunes music library (wait, I haven't paid for music in a decade). There's nothing *I'm* missing by not using iOS and an iPad, and a lot I'm gaining by using Android and a N10.
[Nexus 10 General] enlan:
We'll I hate (HATE HATE HATE) Itunes, which is probably the worst piece of software ever made.

But there are few things I really like about the Ipad: The superior build quality/materials, nice news-apps and the awesome smart case connected by magnets.

I mean, look at this piece of garbage (case) google designed, crappy looking, crappy connection to the tablet and no stand-function.

This really disappoints me so bad, that I'm thinking about not getting the N10
[Nexus 10 General] Croak:
I don't use cases and I avoid having a metal-bodied device that NEEDS one to protect the back, no matter how well-assembled they are. Also not a big fan of spending another $40-$50 for them either. For travelling I'll simply slide my N10 in a $5.00 netbook sleeve. Not a fan of stands either, where I use a tablet is NOT at a desk, if I'm at a desk my laptop or desktop PC do a far better job.

Where I use my tablet instead of a regular computer is when I'm reclining on the couch, sitting on the throne, in a car/airplane/train/bus etc.

But for those that like cases, that N10 cover is just the first of many, the connection is actually pretty smart considering Apple will sue the **** out of anyone that uses a purely magnetic connection. But it means that third-parties can use it as a good solid mounting point for better designs. Which, in typical Google fashion, is probably what they intended. And they won't charge a licensing fee for third-parties to use that connection. It's a far superior mounting solution than what's out there that isn't a "SmartCover". Obviates the need for weight-and-thickness increasing backs just to hold the cover in place, for one thing, and needing less material it'll also mean lower costs.

Because of this built-in mounting solution, I can practically guarantee that eBay will be flooded in a matter of days (if not hours) after release with Chinese cases that will be segmented "smart cover" knockoffs that mount to the backplate area but they'll provide all the rest of the famous iPad cover's functionality (such as it is), if that's what you really want. And it won't cost $40.

As for news apps, Currents, Pulse, News360, Flipboard, CNN and others all work fine or more than fine with Android tablets, and the new Google Magazines is pretty decent as well. I also suspect the "large tablet" version of Flipboard for Android will be releasing in a matter of days.
[Nexus 10 General] wynand32:
Regarding the slow charging via USB port: has anybody paid attention to how long it takes the fully charge the iPad 3? I measured a full 7.5 hours to charge mine from from 0 to 100%. So, I've gotten used to simply plugging the iPad 3 in when I go to bed and it's usually fully charged by the time I get up. If the Nexus 10 is anywhere close to the same, it'll be no difference for me.

And I have the iPad 3 up for sale, if anyone's interested... :)
[Nexus 10 General] jameski182:
I also read rumors about Nexus 10 a will be waiting what those this new stuff differs on the other nexus versions.
[Nexus 10 General] Gaugerer:
The Nexus 10 is the first Android tablet that I have got excited about and impatient to buy because it has a screen which has a higher resolution than the iPad which will stop Apple and it's fans hailing their unbeatable retina display.

The other reason I am excited is that now there is a 10 inch tablet that runs pure Android without any bloat and will receive updates without delay and at a bargain price.
[Nexus 10 General] koptev:
Good review with tests.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/nexus-10-tablet-is-a-solid-house-built-on-shifting-sands/
[Nexus 10 General] whoster69:
Better how? Don't read too much into these reviews that are based on versions prior to what will be shipping. Notice too how these reviews all sound the same, as if the reviewers cut and pasted from each others reviews.

I'm very interested in the N10, but I'll wait until some people have gotten their hands on it, not reviewers, and see what we hear then. If there are some limitations, we'll hear about it. Likewise, if it s great, we'll hear about it. The information is all over the map right now (beyond the obvious, stuff like it doesn't have external storage or the lack of apps for tablets on Android).
[Nexus 10 General] tcb4:
Video walk-through by android central. Bad camera, but the guy really seemed to love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeIvMMhzKpo

Written Review:

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-nexus-10-review

Droid life hands on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLyH85s9djo
[Nexus 10 General] CreepyDroid:
Chrome sucks balls. Google should stop using it as default browser.
[Nexus 10 General] roustabout:
The most interesting thing (to me) in the Ars review was the discussion of the screen as being prone to off-axis angle shifts quickly relative to other devices.

That's too bad; I was hoping this would be one of the truly excellent Samsung screens, but it sounds like Samsung prefers not to compete too aggressively against itself.
[Nexus 10 General] whoster69:
I disagree. They did mention some of the weaker points (like lack of SD for example) but did the typical shallow job of covering the apps (only pointing out that Android has fewer tablet specific apps like so many other weak reviews but completely leaving out that Android OS scales much better than iOS so that it doesn't matter anywhere near as much. That is weak.

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I hear you. Every time I'm forced to use an Apple product, I'm really torn because on the one hand they do something things really, really well and then they do other things really stupidly. I just can't get over how on any Apple device I'm forced to do things their way. You can really feel the hand of big brother on their stuff. It is sad too, because they do some things so well.
[Nexus 10 General] BootlegSnackz:
android central has their review up http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-nexus-10-review
[Nexus 10 General] koptev:
Multi user accounts on the Nexus 10

youtube.com/watch?v=7hk22jx4Y1k
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
Today's update bought 5-10% improvement in benchmarks, you bet similar small tweaks will follow.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/12/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-android-4-2-final-update-adds-lock-screen-w

The one score still not quite there is the SunSpider test in Chrome, it'll be wise to install a 3rd party browser or the stock JB if available.
[Nexus 10 General] James-NC:
I am ready for some of these reviews to give use the skinny on if/how miracast works now that they have received there updates.
[Nexus 10 General] borchgrevink:
Just wonder if it will be possible to have different launchers on different user accounts?
[Nexus 10 General] theserpent:
^^ WHAT THE Hell? Now where will we buy it from?
[Nexus 10 General] CreepyDroid:
The nexus 10 and 4 solding out THAT fast was really strange. I guess so many people bought 4/5 of each model to sell them later at high prices on eBay.
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
Or maybe Google didn't order too much in case the impossible happens - ppl. don't buy them.

Keep us updated with the updated and new reviews!
[Nexus 10 General] dr.pepper1:
Review from pcmag:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411961,00.asp
[Nexus 10 General] Buck1969:
Well, that's a rather un-positive review. One might also say middling, if not downright negative. That said, reading between the lines it seems that the review model is running the pre-release software. Can't wait for the real-world experiences to start rolling in.
[Nexus 10 General] TheHunterOfShadows:
I think reviews like this one from pcmag are doing their customer base a disservice. I disagree with the idea that you just review what the product IS at that moment only. I think that is short sighted. Will customers use the product that one day and then throw it in the trash?

I have a feeling that after a few updates it will be hard to deny this is the best android tab to date. A review like this might push a customer to an older tab when the best possible product could have been the N10. A better approach in my mind is to inform the customer they will go through struggles at first, but it may or may not pay off later. At that point if a customer just wants something that works, maybe they look else where. If a customer is more tecky, they may go with the n10...

You can't do a review on potenial only, but to dismiss this product as a "beta" seems very shortsighted, unprofessional, and ungeek. booo PCMAG :D
[Nexus 10 General] James-NC:
Well he made some very good points in the review.Most reviews are just opinions, many based on first impressions.The fact is that google launched this tablet to meet Apple head on in there market and price range.They might have dropped the ball even though things look good on paper.Most people just want things to work when they try to do the things they like.If software keeps this from doing it as well as another product, then so be it.

Apps are what makes or break the mobile market no matter how much we like to squirm around admitting it.All the best hardware in the world is worthless if John Doe can't watch his movie without stuttering or constant buffering.He is going to go with what looks and works good and forget what is under the hood. jmho

btw..I have never owned any Apple device and have a Nexus 7 that I love but can sure see why many use Apple products.They got software that makes things work well for lots of things.
[Nexus 10 General] GTabJosh:
Or maybe the yields on the displays haven't been that great. Maybe someone will leak a sales/mfg number as with the N7. I truly hope there aren't manufacturing issues, as flooding the market with these is key to Google's tablet strategy.
[Nexus 10 General] Tomatoes8:
He made points that most other reviews didn't agree with though. I find it pretty hard to believe that the tf700 and Note 10.1 is better than this considering the tf700 is plagued with problems and the Note 10.1 had terrible reviews. My tab 10.1 had less problems and that was their first crack at a 10.1 inch tablet.

I find it pretty hard to believe that their latest attempt with all of their latest technology would drop the ball this badly. This is their baby and even when some idiots like Engadget, coincidence that they are the only other review site that said the tf700 was better, said that the One X was better than the GS3, it became quite apparent after all the user experience impressions came in that the GS3 was the much superior handset. I believe the same thing will happens here and I trust the eight 4.5/5 reviews over this one 3/5 one and the Engadget one.

Apparently you think the two poor reviews carry more weight which is probably going to be a big mistake on your part. Let's just say that if you are fine with the Nexus 7 performance, which most people are, I really doubt that an A15(even with the screen) would get outperformed by the tegra 3.
[Nexus 10 General] James-NC:
No I just wish they would not give out tablets to be reviewed before they get the final versions of the software on them.Handing out something that will be talked abut all over with things not working yet is dropping the ball on a new release in my opinion

.They should have everything as perfect as possible before getting reviews on it.I am sure they will get things right and everyone will realize what a great tablet it is when they do.I would just like to see them quit assuming hardware specs alone will wow every reviewer.They need to wait and give them a slam dunk with a total package on a Google flagship device instead of having cause for such reviews in the first place.Until then many reviewers will think like this one did..a great device that is not quite there yet. jmho
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
Google most definitely pushed units out for review too soon (thx Sandy for that, pre-release was meant for hands-ons, but the event was cancelled), but even the November 13 update is not Android 4.2 at full, neither drivers at their best. All was a little rushed due to Surface and iPad premiers, and frankly, it sadly fits into the tech world where computer games crash out of box, iPad and iPhone apps need to be updated for new resolutions and one has to wait for Win8 and Android tablications... The iPad 4 feels so user-friendly right now because it is an updated iPad 3, that that one already passed the sometimes annoying retina transition. The Nexus 10 is new on HW front, new on SW front and new on resolution, so the final verdict, as with many tech stuff, may come over weeks after release.

"Luckily" for us, by the time you're able to get a unit, those weeks will be passed.
[Nexus 10 General] eltidi:
Lol another reviewer in love with the tf700. i guess he loved the premium feel of aluminium, did they really test the tablet, i doubt they rooted it to avoid the horrible emmc that tablet have, every time they say that is the top android tablet I see apple smiling.
[Nexus 10 General] BoneXDA:
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[Nexus 10 General] jmcharles:
One of my favorite reviews actually! Other than saying it was made by asus, I think it was thorough, honest, and left me feeling confident about my purchase.

Sent from my SCH-I535