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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Ok , should I wait to root or just do it now? I was thinking of waiting a couple of days but really, is it necessary? Probably not. I was going to see what battery life on stock was but, I don't think I care. Super happy with this RMA!

Don't like that it is running very warm though. It'll probably go away after the " break in".
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
BTW I call bs on that guy with the insane battery life. He must have posted that from his nexus 7 or something... Or a galaxy nexus with a giant seidio battery. He had no app usage or browser for that matter. I bet if I left my screen on minimal brightness with nothing on the screen and no time out on WiFi I could achieve something similar. That was just troll bait. Franco gets good battery but I don't want to gimp my phone down to below a galaxy nexus to get that battery life. Trinity right now is just more snappy. Plus I was at work and my phone lost 1% over 8.5 hours on idle. Love that!

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I think it's shopped. There are spaces in between the numbers and the letters that nobody else has.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Shouldn't run real warm. Flash away and put what you had before on it and see how it measures up

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
It's not ouchie warm, but warm. Almost hot.

I don't think it's a big deal. Yet.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Lol. Anyone missing PARTICIPATED tab. Try using search on xda.... :p

Participated tab uses search, so when search is down, tab is down. Another mystery solved :p

Oh, and about that guys with 9h. Shopped or not, I can definitely achieve that ;) Just need to use my phone as a book reader (which I do) for whatever hours before it dies. Drain is minimal.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
yup
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
I'm bored so I started playing halo 3 on line again
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Its back here again.. It was indeed gone. And yes mate its option 9

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[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Any fifa13 players here ???

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Anyone has ingress invite ??? Please invite me
[Nexus 4 General] plznote:
FarCry 3 was well done. I enjoyed it.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
When they allow us to invite others into ingress I got u. Or if I ever get my invites I put my email In for u will get it. Since I got mine from estalling. The only stipulation is that you join the resistance.

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[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Thanks bro
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Up and running Jeff?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Stock baby! I miss the cm keyboard with all the long press shortcuts :(
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Very. Enough to wake Barry up and give me the evil eye. It's as if I don't have it on silent, and it's making the normal touch sounds but louder and it's a buzzing/click sound.

Almost like cb radio interference.

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I have no screen protectors :( Used my last one on the phone I have now. Anybody find static back screen protectors yet? Other than the spg?

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Jayrod... Does the sides, the " rubber" part , feel different to you than the other RMA's you've had? This one feels smoother , almost like plastic, not rubbery at all.
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Didi you flash all images too? Woohoo, two testees.

Just go to your normal setup, doesn't have to be stock.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
You're suppose to have two testees :what:
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I'm completely stock. Even unrooted it. Let the testing begin... once I wake up tomorrow :p

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Stock is like buttah dood
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yup in just finishing up i got all my apps back and killrom with Franco r31

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Dirty u want me to ship u a BSE back? I still got one left?

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[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
What would I do if I were to brick my nexus 4 due to excessive undervolting? Would it be fixable by booting into recovery and flashing a new copy of the kernel thereby restoring the stock voltage settings? I read that TWRP has its own kernel that it uses on boot to run, it's the Bricked Kernel. I'm not sure if CWM has its own kernel like TWRP. I assume that if a recovery has its own kernel, then it is able to use that instead of the flawed/bricked main kernel that was excessively undervolted.

Could someone explain if CWM has its own kernel and if I would be able to flash another copy of my kernel to restore the default voltages in the event that I brick it because I excessively undervolted?
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Oh no, that's ok. I don't like them. Thank you very much though. Just bought some static ones off Amazon.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Wait so does your N4 turn on?

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[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Err, maybe not quite as grippy as before? The phone before seemed maybe more grippy. Feels fine to me though. Bummer about your screen protector shortage. I have a usable case shortage. Active case is on the way but would like an xda or bugdroid or maybe one of those hard and tpu combo cases Jeff modeled for me. I just wish the clear hard case had a black rim. For some reason the white looks cheap. I like white phones a lot but its like having a white bezel on an all black phone. Stuck right now with my lg bumper as its the only case I have that won't scratch my phone or peel up the bumper.

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
OK cool you will keep the stock protectors on anyways till u get them wont you. I've become a pro at wet application but the dry ones i don't understand why u like them.

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[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Woot, my magnector pogo charger for the n10 shipped from Korea! Maybe I'll have the damn tablet back before the stupid thing gets here. I can't believe those jerk offs repaired my tab with a worse screen (or anchored it too harshly) and scratched on the back. When I sent it back this time I actually taped notes with arrows to show where they nicked up my tablet. Put a note on the front too to proclaim light bleed and to check the back. Guess now they have to put a whole new shell on it. I'll bet maybe with a shell that hasnt been pried that the screen might not bow and cause bleed. Wishful thinking but at the minimum they need to replace the shell of it. I've kinda accepted that ALL nexus 10s have some light bleed. Original was the best by far but I was careful never to put any weight on it or man handle it.

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[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
Yes because it's not actually bricked right now. It was a hypothetical question. I wanted to know because I would feel better undervolting if I knew how to fix it ahead of time in the event I brick it. I just undervolted for the first time and it seems stable but I am concerned that it may brick soon because I missed some instability. I'd like to know what I would do if it does brick.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Crazy woman doesn't like bse... Crazy!

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Well the phone is actually hard to break. Even red light blinking is not death. It just is a kernel panic of some sort. Lg I guess uses it to protect the battery or the chip. Your phone thinks the battery is dead when it is not. You just have to let it charge awhile, boot into fast boot. Then reboot. If it doesn't work, try again in a few hours with it plugged in, etc. Morfic tested this extensively and I trust the German

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Ahhhh OK good I was like oh no he just got that phone :eek:

Well there is 2 types of bricks you have a soft brick which is easy to come back from its basically when u lose all images and data from a phone and go into a boot loop or cant get past the nexus image all you have to do in the case of a soft brick is get the phone into bootloader mode and re flash stock boot images. The 2nd brick is a hard brick and those too u can come back from normally but u would have to send your phone away for a JTAG to get it back to life.

These guys know alot more than i do so chime in people help him out

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[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
So a hard brick can be fixed with a boot image usually but might need to be physically fixed too? Could I fix the JTAG myself?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Hold on. Is your phone bricked or not? If yes I'll do all i can to help you, if not and you are just looking for a theoretical knowledge answers above are enough to give you a clue what to look for when I politely point you to Google search. :)
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
No there is one guy i know of that does them if you Google JTAG you will see it.

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[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Jeff, I'm going to be off for a few more days. Please PM me with results :)

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
No problem

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[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
No it's not bricked right now. I just wanted theoretical knowledge.

I found the video of the guy who does it. Do undervolting adjustments work "under" fastboot? So if undervolting is done wrong, you won't even be able to boot into fastboot to get to recovery?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
No. UV only works with kernel when system is booted. Recovery has it's own kernel. So even if you **** up, you can fix it in recovery. However, from what i've heard, UV crashes are quite unpredictable and can cause nasty side effects, so I wouldn't recommend trying to push it too much. If it crashed once at certain voltage, do not try it again, just up it by 12.5mv. When trying voltages do not tick "apply on boot" untill you are sure your custom voltages are rock solid.

I use System Tuner, which seems to have some preventive coding, if it fails to boot after crashing (you ticked apply on boot) it reverts to stock.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I stay away from undervolting I've done it extensively and didnt gain much battery so its just not worth it to me.

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[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
It doesn't do much for battery but it does helluva lot to keep cpu and battery a lot cooler. UV is a must in my opinion. Google went way too far with voltage.

Also, i posted on previous page in case someone missed it :)
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Yes, that's it! Less grippy, smoother.

No biggie about the screen protectors, just bought a bunch and I can live with the factory one for now. You should try the poetic bumper, it's great! Love the bug droid cases, they don't scratch or mess with my screen protectors.

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Yes, factory ones stay on until the new ones come. If you get a good static one they end up being like glass and barely noticed. I found the bse too grippy. I like "glass like". I actually love the stock ones that come on the N4, I would leave it on if it didn't have the arrows for the power button and volume rocker. The back one I'll leave on until it looks like crap. You don't even notice it's there.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
So there isn't really a way to brick by undervolting because you can always fix it in recovery? Out of curiosity do you know what kernel CWM uses? I searched the release thread but couldn't find a mention of which kernel it is. TWRP lists it right on the OP. I did have a soft restart crash a few minutes ago when I heard it beep for an email notification and as soon as I hit the power button to turn on the screen to unlock, it soft restarted. I upped my lowest/most suspicious voltages but it makes me nervous.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
That white case Jeff showed you last night comes in black rimmed. Is this the one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-TPU-R...753220?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item416fb11fc4
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Another trinity plug... At 50% I'm sitting at 2.5 hours screen time on wifi BUT I was stuck on the phone with Samsung for 45 mins of the battery cycle. Should eek out close to 6 now. I'll bet Franco is better but this thing stays so cool and benches like a beast on trinity. Insane standby too.

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[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
No, read it again. It can damage your phone. UV crashes are unpredictable.

I don't know what kernel cwm uses, probably stock.

Don't be nervous, just be careful with your experiments, don't go nuts.
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
I misread. I didn't understand that by unpredictable, you meant hardware damaging side effects. I assumed that if it shut off/restarted due to excess undervolting, that it was somewhat like incorrectly turning it off. It just shuts down the wrong way without saving anything. Clearly that was a bad understanding. I guess I'll just be careful and use recommended voltages from other people with the same binned cpu.

If I regularly flash CM10.1 nightly roms, could those impact my undervoltage levels so that I might have to increase voltage to keep stability? I would think only new kernels would result in the need for undervoltage changes to keep stability.

System Tuner Pro isn't letting me adjust my 304mhz voltage. I tired it earlier and it worked with every frequency expect that one. I had to use Trickster Mod instead. Has that happened to you?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Good morning everyone :beer:. Gotta love 8am class...
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I just don't find the gain worse the lose. In lose i mean testing time and negative effects on the phone when you are testing.

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[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Butthead. Didn't even say good morning back to me :( guess I'm not your friend anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Good morning bro :D

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Morning CT

I'm hoping i get 8 hours battery today Lol. Either way I'm glad i did what i did last night cause it cleaned up my phone either way. :D:thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Me Batman You Bane :D

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[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Sonic you da man. We r now best friends Jeff can go suck it.

Ya ya ya :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Lol honestly I though I did and then skipped a line and wrote the rest hmmmm:confused:

Good morning my favorite person from Maine

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Oh see I did Lol I just hadn't gotten to your post yet

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[Nexus 4 General] abhipati:
Good Morning all bros
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Sup scooby

Haha good morning dude
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Morning Scooby

Velma is hot too especially covered in blood.

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[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Lol wtf
[Nexus 4 General] ben_pyett:
I know this is OT, but this passed by the HELP thread, unanswered (or without a satisfactory response) so I wouldn't mind your opinions....?

See Takes too long to re-connect to mobile network after complete loss of signal

comments appreciated.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
You on the stock ROM? I have had this happen to me. Usually just do the airplane toggle. Hopefully they patch it in 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
I guess everyone has it. I'm also experiencing the same delays. I guess it will fixed in 4.2.2. At least that's what we can hope for :D

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Wish I could help ya but I've never had that problem on my N4 (yet).

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[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Good morning ninjas!
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
What time is it there guys ? Its 3 pm here already ..

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[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
8:15am Chicago cst
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
9:17am here in good old Maine
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Starting from this page through page 550. I'm going to thank every post just because I can. Good day!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Good morning y'all!

My wake locks are barely anything on stock!
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I'll make sure to post a bunch :D

Hey dirty ;)
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
:thumbup::D

Morning dirty
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
How are you, good sir?
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
I'm great! At work but not complaining today.

How about you?
[Nexus 4 General] CaspaTheGhost:
Dirty, did you try my screen settings? I only ask as they really punch out the whites so I'm thinking it would be best for your yellow...

So consensus on Undercover's stock image experiment?

Busy at work so I'll pop back later!

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[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Care to post them again? I just flashed Franco so I'm messing around with the colors
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
No, I didn't see them. Can you post them again, please? I'm still stock right now. She's at 15% so I'm going to wait for her to die then charge her up, then flash away. I'm scared though, I have hardly no wake locks on stock.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm looking at 5 hours at this point so not much of an increase ill post at 50% battery

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[Nexus 4 General] CaspaTheGhost:
Sure, they are 225, 240, 255.

Everyone else seems to have the second lower than the first.

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[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Ooooh I like! Thanks I'm keeping it
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Thanks, Caspa!

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Anybody know if minco has customizations like themes, etc...?
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I'm good, sitting in my microcontrollers class :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
OK 25% down so ill post some pics i expect this to get better after a couple cycles I'm on r31 FYI best screen on time I've ever gotten is 5 hour 6 min

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[Nexus 4 General] CaspaTheGhost:
Welcome both! I find them better, with whiter whites, than the usual setup with the middle lower than the first.

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Can't wait to try them. I think my yellow is getting better. And I don't really see it unless I'm comparing my phone to the new RMA, of course. Sometimes I wish I was ignorant to these types of things. Normal people would never notice these " little things". * sigh*.

BTW, I was peeing when I wrote that. :D
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Dirty so i called cruzerlite they are gonna send me 2 more clear cases and 1 white complementary case i explained to them all the issues I've had and so in getting the one clear one they owe me plus another clear and white for free.

So the first person who PMS me will get the clear bugdroid case just give me a few bucks to ship it.

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No wonder your screen is piss yellow :eek:

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
What about the case you wanted to switch for the green? That's good that they finally helped you! No idea what's up with them.

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Has anyone used or is using "pimp my rom"?
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
That's a good result on mobile data Jeff.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Its not bad so far but in not expecting much till a couple cycles go by

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BTW i have all the stuff saved on my phone and SD and have a 1 1/2 GB more memory on my phone.

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Oh damn i forgot to bring that up

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[Nexus 4 General] ben_pyett:
Thank you....was good to hear that its not just me!

While I'm very grateful for the THANKS.

You should stop that kind of behavior as it completely de-values the entire point of THANKS, in fact OFF TOPIC threads don't normally permit the giving of THANKS for just that reason. See OT sub section - no THANKS ability!
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Last page of thanks... Now time to be an as$hole lol jk
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Fully stock yo.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'll continue on with giving "thanks" to whoever I want. Always one "po po" in the bunch.

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So if someone helps me in this off topic thread I shouldn't give thanks?
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
OK 50% battery Franco r31

undercover beta1

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Lol :p:thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Nice! The rma is charging up now. Can't wait to set her back up with the killrom and Franco! Battery seems to be pretty good right off the bat...the phone had 55% battery when I got it and it lasted 6 hours with 3 of screen time. Love this rma!
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Well, for mobile data only its a damn good result.

Is that an improvement for you?

Hamster, no one says not to use thanks, just don't OVERUSE AND ABUSE it.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Thanks guys :D

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
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I normally get 4 to 4 1/2 screen on and I've only hit 5 hours 2 times so yes
[Nexus 4 General] ben_pyett:
No, that's not what I said!

Giving THANKS where its justified is fine and is exactly what I've always done (in this thread), all I did was to point out that blatant abuse of THANKS wasn't clever - which is what I felt @siloner was doing - I didn't report it.

The General Discussion -> Off topic sub section has no THANKS simply so that it can't be abused and its genuinely earned.

See Removal Of The Thanks Function From OT..... :D
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
For example that guy we've talked about last day -> project ARM who had multiple accounts just to thank himself so that people gave respect to him.

But as long as I know hamster and Jeff and the others (and me) are not abusing it. So were good. :D

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[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Um yes he did... He said we aren't suppose to use " thanks" in off topic threads. That clearly means " don't use thanks in this off topic thread.

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Did you or did you not say, and I'm not going to quote you exactly as I really don't feel like going to find your post, that you're not suppose to give "thanks" in off topic threads? Whatever, I'm certainly not going to go back and forth on the topic.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Hey guys come on. Group hug and stay off topic please :D

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Lets all give thanks and praise

Thank you Ben now you may carry on your moding errr I mean posting :D

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[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Heh..

One of the reasons I gave up my RC...
[Nexus 4 General] ben_pyett:
Without meaning to sound all pantomime "Er, no I didn't..." What I said was