yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] NienorGT:
Actually, it's not about Apple, not about the Lightning connector but all about the fact that it can be plugged in both side and the cable itself will switch the connections if it has been plugged in the wrong way.

I'm not alone who constantly try to plug a port the wrong way (any damn plug) and to be back to that MicroUSB, well, lot of people seems to break it by plugging it the wrong way...

https://plus.google.com/+ChrisPirillo/posts/RMPDag8DVQT

Plus you can easily damage it by trying to insert it the wrong way:

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-playbook-f222/micro-usb-port-damage-736844/

Of course, but if Apple don't get a patent for side agnostic plugs, I think we could maybe see a new port one day that can be plugged in both direction.

Customization is obviously a plus, but I'm telling you: normal users won't really even bother to play with it.

It's also a big downside actually, each time someone ask to borrow my phone, not only it's annoy me but I have to help them as they don't know what to do since it's not "normal".

But anyway, there's also the fact that iOS is pretty easier to customize once you Jailbreak (point taken that a JB must be made public before you can JB it) as you can change everything, including apps appearance. Try to skin an app on Android...

Look up on the web, it's easy to see how iOS apps are better designed. Pretty much any tech review sites (that aren't related to Android or iOS) will mention it as well. It's also a clear fact you notice when you are a dual platform user like me.

Android is making the gap smaller and smaller over time, but there still lot to do and iOS aren't standing still.

As for games... well... I don't game on Android that much, I exclusively use my iPhone for games. Why?

1- When I try games on Android I usually end up with compatibility issues (3D artifacts, resolution issues, etc).

2- Games run slower on Android, I was speechless to see GTAIII having unplayable FPS on my (then brand new) One S (1.5GHz DC) when the game was just a bit slow on my iPhone 4 (800MHz SC).

3- I bought Batman for Android on the 25c event, never played it. Why? Never got the 2GB of free space needed on my One S.
[Nexus 4 General] AwesomeTurtle:
Will I get shot if i tell you all to "like what you like and shut the hell up"?
[Nexus 4 General] crawlgsx:
This thread is fail....

You can think of at least 50 without even trying :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Element515:
I find microusb a disadvantage. I hate microusb ports. They are fragile and difficult to plug in. That lightning port is great and wish we had that... Or something that is easy to use at night without seeing.
[Nexus 4 General] towelboy:
Then bam! came wireless charging and no more frustration over wired cables :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] ap3604:
They keep lining up the worthless excuses and you keep knocking them out of the park danshuynh :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] nafpez:
OMG! This is without doubt THE worst argument against Android I have ever seen! Tell ya mates to get a grip ffs! Either that or get their own phone! Pmsl I have no idea why, but this has really insensed me. "Oh have you been messing with ya phone again? You must know i dont have one of my own and I constantly need to borrow yours, but I dont know what to do with it cos you've been customizing it"
[Nexus 4 General] NicholasQ:
I think the fact that somebody can't use my phone or tablet is a GOOD thing. Makes it much harder for them to snoop through it.
[Nexus 4 General] towelboy:
I agree and idk why iPhone heads are on xda in the first place..
[Nexus 4 General] Jamal Ahmed:
This made me LOL

+1
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
I think the only reasons this thread needs is "Android" and "299$" ;)

But some arguments still seem partial to me :

-If you're going to quote Android beam as an advantage for the Nexus, then Airplay is an advantage for the iPhone.

-The iPhone 5 performs better than the Nexus 4 in every single test (CPU, GPU, and Battery life), which should probably be noted. (source : http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review/1)
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Because its a forum anyone can go on.
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
Turns out in the end that the iPhone is much better, shame the performance is so bad.
[Nexus 4 General] yousef8824:
4cores>>>>>>>>>>>2cores
[Nexus 4 General] Bjray:
This was benchmarked on pre-release software / drivers... for a good performance preview of the Nexus 4 look @ LG Optimus G, which mostly beats the iPhone 5 in every single test.

Same. this (Nexus 4) was benchmarked on pre-release software / drivers.
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
Yeah, the software / drivers that google and LG currently have, and are sending to the press for reviewing purposes. As far as we know they may or may not be able to improve performances in the future. The LG optimus G having slightly better performances points in that direction, but only time will tell if they can improve performances (Maybe it's a hardware problem with heat dissipation, maybe there are tiny differences in the chipset we don't know about yet, maybe Android 4.2 is just slower than 4.1...)

Could you please point me to the benchmarks or tests you're referring to ? Because from my point of view the iPhone is also faster than the LG Optimus G (once again looking at Anandtech's reviews/previews) in every comparable area :

iPhone5 Optimus G
Sunspider : 908 1626
Browsermark : 191726 86870
Egypt HD native : 39 37.5

So the iPhone 5 is faster than the Optimus G in every benchmark so far (lower is better for Sunspider). The only test in which the LG would be marginally faster is Egypt HD if rendered offscreen in 1080p but there's no point in comparing those since in real life you're going to use your device's screen and not a 1080p hdtv 99% of the time (at least as far as I'm concerned).

If you have evidence that the LG is indeed faster in some situations please provide them, as a future Nexus 4 owner that would make me very happy =)

sources :

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6305/lg-optimus-g-performance-preview

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/10
[Nexus 4 General] StellMonkey:
Would you buy a iPhone 5 with Android rather the LG?
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
That's a good question, I'd never thought of that since iOS and its eco-system are such a deal breaker for me. But if they were priced similarly yes, I think I'd buy an Android powered iPhone 5 rather than the Nexus 4 (provided android doesn't ruin performances and battery life of course).

A few years ago the proprietary port would have been a deal breaker too, but nowadays most of my transfers are done through wifi, and at least the new port is more practical than µUSB.

The screen really is smallish though, so that would probably bother me, but the compacity and build quality kinda make up for it, and if I know I'll read or watch videos for a long period of time I could always take my Nexus 7 with me.

So yeah, Apple, if you want me as a customer, all you have to do is switch to Android and cut your prices by a half XD
[Nexus 4 General] Hemlocke:
Absolutely. The reason no Android device will catch the iPhone is because of the fit, finish, and design. The iPhone is an engineering marvel (in the current generation) with the best materials and actual craftsmanship housing top-notch components. No Android device is playing the same game, let alone participating in the same league. However, I do love some Android software, and I will get the N4, just as I have the last two Nexus devices. I will just be disappointed by the unfortunate compromises Google has made.

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I would actually pay the higher prices for an Android-powered iPhone 5. I have owned all the recent top dogs, minus the Note II, and the iPhone 5 just beats them all in overall quality. Android 4.2 would be a bonus, and that combination would be unassailable. I think that is why so many hoped Nokia would adopt Android, because they seem to be the only other OEM who can compete with Apple in craftsmanship (Although it doesn't show on the 900/920, which is just a fat iPod Nano).
[Nexus 4 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
A lot of those reasons are android related :p. Anyways android and nexus 4 FTW
[Nexus 4 General] Fatelord:
I wish there exists a device with IPhone's built and design. android's 4.2 OS and the IPhone's apps ( higher in quality IMO ) ... Sigh.
[Nexus 4 General] xdiable:
Please post a link to those benchmarks because every site is showing the opposite. Maybe those benchmarks are only in your head
[Nexus 4 General] iRoid:
iphone's priority is to look good while nexus is to perform good.
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
So i guess you are saying the iphone5 is the best phone out there today? I mean we make comparisons to justify a purchase, so if we don't buy this phone we should buy the iphone 5? No thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
From a purely technical (and hardware) point of view I do believe the iPhone 5 is pretty much the best phone out there today. It's also the most expensive, runs a closed OS, uses proprietary technologies, and has some design choices that won't appeal to everyone, so in the end it doesn't matter which one is "the best", it's still a matter of preference.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
The iphone5 is a powerful phone, I will give it it's credit. Web browsing is lightning fast ( both LTE and wifi), it leads a lot of benchmarks. But it still uses the same old IOS and isn't worth upgrading from the4s unless you're in crazy need of LTE. But honestly it is a great phone, but nexus 4 is gonna kick his ass!
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
It also lacks Apple's smugness.
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
I do have to shake my head when i hear someone say it is the most expensive (iphone 5) The majority of people in the US buy on contract so for them it's the same price as anything else. Overseas may be a different story. As far as the OS the way each carrier seems to destroy android some times makes me think a closed android system might not be all bad. Thank god for galaxy nexus\nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
Newsflash: US isn't the only country in the world! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
hey slick, did you notice i said overseas may be different. If you could post some overseas purchase pricing plans that would be informative. Thanks for playing.
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
Here in France the iPhone 5 costs 680 euros if you buy it unlocked.

Most people also buy their phones on contract here, but it's still more expensive : For example you can have a galaxy Nexus or iPhone 4 for free with a contract, or pay 300 euros upfront and have an iPhone 5 with the same contract, so you end up paying for your phone anyway (and if you paylook closely you usually pay more on contract than if you buy the phone unlocked and get a cheap contract without a phone).
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
Thanks for the info. From a little quick research a galaxy s3 is about the same price in France as an iiphone 5, is that correct? 649 euro vs 680?
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
yup, exactly.
[Nexus 4 General] KidCarter93:
25 reasons why the Nexus 4 is better than the iPhone :

1) It's not an iPhone

2) It's not an iPhone

3) It's not an iPhone

4) It's not an iPhone

5) It's not an iPhone

6) It's not an iPhone

7) It's not an iPhone

8) It's not an iPhone

9) It's not an iPhone

10) It's not an iPhone

11) It's not an iPhone

12) It's not an iPhone

13) It's not an iPhone

14) It's not an iPhone

15) It's not an iPhone

16) It's not an iPhone

17) It's not an iPhone

18) It's not an iPhone

19) It's not an iPhone

20) It's not an iPhone

21) It's not an iPhone

22) It's not an iPhone

23) It's not an iPhone

24) It's not an iPhone

25) It's not an iPhone
[Nexus 4 General] NicholasQ:
/thread
[Nexus 4 General] Capt.PP:
What better you ask? N4's back glass will get crack when drop, Iphone5 will get shatter.
[Nexus 4 General] Peyman_dinani:
Inductive charging also known as wireless charging :D
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Not sure how the 5 would shatter seen as the back is aluminium and the screen seems pretty strong also :P
[Nexus 4 General] F1tty:
+1 i phone better with an droid ;)
[Nexus 4 General] iTeeXDA:
Wow, I thought we were at a point where both phones could exist cohesively. Why do we need posts like these?

Now, just to prove a point: (from AnandTech)

For one phone to be good/or exist, the other does not need to be bad/or banned. Let's get over this childish Apple vs Google arguments.
[Nexus 4 General] F1tty:
ähm woot? y we cant joke? if you want no jokin plz leave! go to politics there you can have your philistine boring life!

im no apple hader but i love my droid! I am only Responsible for what I say not what you understood ;)

EDIT: Like your Nickname says your an apple fanboy thats the reason y you post stupid benchmarks....but that wont distub me....just wanna say
[Nexus 4 General] iTeeXDA:
Nice. The fact that you judge a book by its cover says a lot about you. I'm now not surprised at all that you would post such a thread.

I've actually owned more Android phones than Apple.
[Nexus 4 General] F1tty:
i also want a cup of w [ H ] i n e! cheers :highfive:

btw i hope you have to pay a lot for the n4 :D peace
[Nexus 4 General] jader13254:
+1 Swizerland 599$ :D (Franken..)

I prefer nexus 4 over iPhone 13 x10!

Its awesome! Wait for Final Benchmarks :D
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
There will always be people arguing about each side even though it is unnecessary. Just how things happen :P
[Nexus 4 General] MemoryController:
I stopped reading at @14: file system -> no file system.

Seriously WTF is this supposed to mean?
[Nexus 4 General] F1tty:
i think he simple means some FILEEXPLORER
[Nexus 4 General] MemoryController:
Oh lulz :)
[Nexus 4 General] idividebyzero:
If you are on a mac you have to use some google file transfer app to access the phone's storage, which is a god damned atrocity. Plus iTunes is quite good on a mac and very quick and easy to use compared to using an sdcard for uploading music.

So not having iTunes or ANY way to easily manage your music is a huge negative. Its one of the things I desperately wish Google would make for Android, something like iTunes, Google Music is a pathetic attempt at that and not really management software, just some ghetto webpage with an insanely slow uploader.
[Nexus 4 General] F1tty:
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thats it! thats one reason y i love my droid! no all in one app just simple full customizable ;)
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
Wait what, Macs don't support UMS ?
[Nexus 4 General] Deonix:
In Europe Nexus 4 (16GB)= 350 euros, iPhone 5 = 740 euro ( 950$) so headshot... to that.
[Nexus 4 General] MemoryController:
350€ from the play store
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
Yes, why would you buy it from anywhere else ? (or are there some countries where it will be available through retailers and not through the playstore ?)
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
Are you serious?? Only the UK, Spain, France and Germany can buy from the Play Store in europe. Oh yeah, that is europe for you...
[Nexus 4 General] TubbyHamster:
Number 20 isn't as cut and dry as all that... I seem to remember the Nexus S getting an OS update sans Face Unlock...
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
Because of

real

hardware limitations. :D
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
And the real hardware limitation that removed offline speech right?
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
Maybe, it depends on the processing power needed. It's not like a pocket calculator could do it.
[Nexus 4 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
I'm really hoping for a GameCube emulator for the nexus:)
[Nexus 4 General] KrlzGmz:
iPhone is not HD, Nexus 4 is.

1136x640 vs 1280x768

Fix that. :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] Slender Troll:
I hope you can run a nds emulator on it without the emulator being extremely slow. Then again maybe it is just the coding of the emulator that is making it slow.

Motorola Photon 4G
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
The CPU is capable.

It would get the job done just slower. Similar to panorama

If I recall correctly Google also removed face unlock from the Xoom. Was there in ICS. They may have done do just to get the ROM to actually fit. Off the top of my head I don't recall how much space face unlock uses and so on,
[Nexus 4 General] neodoru:
19. Photo sphere >>> Regular panorama

The iPhone has Photosynth...

There's really no point in saying one is better, as the phone choice is a purely subjective one. It's like saying one should like Picasso more than Van Gogh!

That being said... I can't wait for 13 to get here!
[Nexus 4 General] MemoryController:
Nah, I had tried a build of dolphin for my I9100, 1-2 fps :(
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Apple store customer service? That was a genius move by Apple but also the biggest scam ever created. Automatically including a product service plan in the cost and taking credit for having great customer support. Genius. The best part of this, they can scam you more by selling you Apple care on top of their 30% profit margin + 20% product service plan surcharge.

For the people that are having problems following. Apple can replace your product with no questions ask because they already charged you for two products while only giving you one product. The companies that have no profit margins and do not make you buy a product service plan without you knowing it have to be a bit more picky about their return policy or risk bankruptcy.
[Nexus 4 General] Hemlocke:
Your math is fuzzy, at best.
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
Then by your logic LG is scamming its customers even more than Apple, because they're sellling you pay twice the price for the optimus G or even the Nexus 4 outside of Google Play, and yet you don't even have that great service plan Apple offers...

The fact is we don't know how much profit manufacturers get from phones, but I'm willing to bet that :

- An iPhone 5 probably costs as much to produce as high end android devices.

- Google is not making any profit out of the Nexus 4 (they may even be selling the 8GB one at a loss) because they know they can make profit from Google Play and online advertisement, which is not an option for other manufacturers.
[Nexus 4 General] kaiowas82:
Google does make a profit, even if smaller compared to others ..they didn't turn into a charity association

Probably the nexus cost Google about 100$-150$ per unit, in line with iPhone costs ;)
[Nexus 4 General] IllUMINATUz:
they both have a fragile glass back man!!! both will break when droped [back part]!!
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
But even though iphone screen is small its is far superior in brightness, saturation, color and sharpness than nexus 4

Same In camera aspect...iphone has a better sensor than nexus 4.... When u r going to buy an iphone only price matters...

Everything is perfect...atleast for me..
[Nexus 4 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
I heard the iphone's screen is just better in sharpness.
[Nexus 4 General] BlueScreenJunky:
Sony and Microsoft are not charity association either, and that never prevented them from selling video game consoles at a loss.

I'm pretty sure if Google is willing to sell the phone for $300 when LG is selling it for $600 they want to earn money from content and ads, not from hardware. Just like the Kindle HD is cheaper than other tablets (except the N7) because amazon know they'll make money from selling content.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Widgets..giant plus for Android!!
[Nexus 4 General] Zurginator:
In hardware? Sure. The bulk of the cost of a phone comes from the development time though. Engineers, Designers, Prototypes, and all that aren't cheap.
[Nexus 4 General] kieren2:
iPhone 4 / 5 Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy

Andriod - No bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy (the hardware is there but no API except for Motorola who made their own)
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
You make as much sense as that USSEEN guy with the creepy eye avatar, which means no sense at all. The cost of the iphone is estimated by parts suppliers.

http://www.zdnet.com/iphone-5-16gb-costs-an-estimated-207-to-build-7000004476/

The iphone 4s was much less than that.

As for LG, well, they don't buy parts in the millions for huge discounts because the Optimus G is not going to sell well period, so the price to build is going to be pretty close to the selling price since they do not get cheap quality Samsung parts in droves and at a bargain price like Apple.

Also you need to work on your logic a bit. If the 16gb Nexus 4 is selling at $349 a pop: How the hell in your messed up Apple loving world do you get that LG is ripping off their consumers more than a $699(in Canada) iphone 5? LOL

Like I said, my logic is sound. Apple can offer their warranty because they charge 3 times the cost to build or more and they have 100 billion in the bank. While LG has nowhere near that and uses more expensive parts purchased from Qualcomm etc. Those are as close to facts as you can get and you somehow get LG ripping off customers more than Apple from that? hahaha
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
:cyclops:

That's not just any creepy eye, that's my creepy eye. I'm watching you, staring into your soul.
[Nexus 4 General] gogol:
Then DON'T DROP it man!!!!

Sorry, I cannot resist to reply :)
[Nexus 4 General] Niblas:
Addtional iPhone advantage

Additional iPhone advantage:

Only the 120 people who posted here will buy it (like the previous Nexus), so expect lightyears to solve possible issues while LG and Google blame each other.

Lesson learned from Nexus S.
[Nexus 4 General] EvoYas:
Biggest reason would be..

Freedom>>>>No Freedom at all.

Always hated iPhones for that, or any iOS device.

Just a few hours ago, I wanted to watch the new episode of Dexter but was too tired to get on my pc and download it so boom I get on Atorrents from my Android device and watched my fav show in my bed all lazy and cozy. Didnt have to pay a penny for that.
[Nexus 4 General] ChongoDroid:
I haven't had one for a while but last time I checked you had to plug your iPhone into the computer to use custom ringtones.

Doesn't seem too smart to me.. or maybe that's in the next update loll
[Nexus 4 General] 309041291a:
Has anyone brought up the fact that it's a Nexus?

Nexus S (GSM i9020a)

Euroskank AOKP (Build 5 - 4.1.2)

Matrix Kernel (24.0 - CFS)

Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/200)

Wheatly (Screen Off) (400/200)

Deep Idle (N/A - Noop)

BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)

Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gil80:
Hi all.

Is there a way to change the default keyboard sound that comes in JB 4.1.2?

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] mathorv:
Hey I am happy HTC Desire owner using latest 7.2.nightly cyanogen(or skank builds). The phone however lacks front camera, it has small internall storage - 512MB also it lacks CM10 updates (or any other reliable ICS/JB mods). Considered HTC Desie S but it is only slightly faster and offers front camera, and its almost the same in terms of specs phone. It would be nice to find something similar but newer/stronger.

.

Requirements:

Preferrence: 3.7" touchscreen

Preferrence: Reasonably priced

Android - ICS/JB(3.x kernel)

Better RAM/Internal Storage than now (572/512)

Rootable.

Moddable (CM, etc)

Durable construction that looks solid.(not a fragile thing that brakes 1000 pieces after falling accidentally)

Large or fast growing community.

Preferrence:good wifi module, good gsm module(by good i mean phones that keep strong signal)

Preferrence: Battery life over average

Preferrence: model without "its not a bug its a feature" thingies(like death grip, sudden loss of connectivity wifi/gsm/3g)

If finding for cool 3.7' phone is hard please suggest something in 4.0 or 4.3 inches.
[General Questions and Answers] TeeJay3800:
Please see the sticky in this section for phone decision questions, thanks. Thread closed.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ngoralph:
i've seen many threads about bootloader how to know if its unlockable or not???
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mharckk:
type on dial pad *#*#7378423#*#*

go to service info>configuration> bottom line rooting status: bootloader unlocked : no or yes