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[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
This is a very useful post as it allows us to see how google deals with actual customer service issues. While the OP did remind we US people of restocking fees that should be an obvious thing for some of us, but thanks to him\her also. There will be so many reviews on this phone a person should have a pretty good idea if they would like it or not before they buy, so i have no problems with a restocking fee especially if you know about it going into the deal. I will say i have yet to find any phone that i had to replace 3-4 times in a short period of time for hardware issues. I guess some of us are much more picky than others.
[Nexus 4 General] Damanis1:
Yea I'm gonna wait on buying it to many reviews saying it had problems,I do know that those aren't the final model but rather not risk it,hey maybe 32gig model isn't out of the question either, id drop another 50 for it
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
How is providing someone with a better price than is available to them overcharging?

You get overcharged when the mechanic verbally quotes you an approximate price and ends up boosting the price by 25% once the job is done.

You DO NOT get overcharged when your will to buy something at a certain price point is strong enough that you AGREE TO BUY IT AT THAT PRICE BEFOREHAND.

Man, your concept of business is weird
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I guess no one else here has deal with the Play Store. They rarely will charge you a restocking fee. They are very good about giving you a full refund. Sure, they aren't required to, but they have had very good service from my experience and will usually wave the fee.
[Nexus 4 General] TwinkyOfHope:
Not concerned at all about the restocking fee.
[Nexus 4 General] obtained:
Google has the best customer service I have ever received from any company. :)
[Nexus 4 General] lnfound:
Assuming it has an issue that requires replacement, do you get refurb or new in box?
[Nexus 4 General] BennyJr:
I don't think they will have refurbs that quick...
[Nexus 4 General] guest_2011:
My only concern is how it will behave in the summer heat/direct sunlight on my dash where temps reach 100+ near windshield even with AC running or windows open. If i remember correctly my old optimus one had a heat sensor which disables the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] aznrmx1112:
not worried about the restocking fee. should be an easy CL sell if I dont like it.
[Nexus 4 General] mrbkkt1:
Not every European country, just look art the multitude of threads asking for help in getting one.

I'd personally rather sell to an xda member than send it back to Google.
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
I'm still getting it the first day no matter what. I don't think Google would let me down with their Nexus line, they never have before.
[Nexus 4 General] EnIXmA:
I got a defected Nexus 7 purchased from the play store back in July, they replaced it with a brand new n7 without charging any restocking fees. They normally charge you if there is nothing wrong with the device.

p.s- I live in Canada, not sure about States
[Nexus 4 General] supersain08:
Did you pay for return shipping?
[Nexus 4 General] Ravynmagi:
With my Nexus 7 RMAs, I was never charged shipping, Google shipped out the replacement free and paid to have the defective unit returned as well. So shipping paid both ways by Google.

PS. And Google send the replacement units out 2nd Day Air, though is usually took one day to process the RMA, so total turn around time was 3 days. Extremely quick compared to the unfortunately souls that didn't buy directly from Google Play and had to deal with ASUS and were spending weeks on RMAs and no advanced RMA service (Google also ships you the replacement while you can hang on to the defective unit if you want to).
[Nexus 4 General] lnfound:
Who knows. I assume replacements has a full warranty though, not some 90 day thing?
[Nexus 4 General] rhoadster91:
A $350 Dilemma

Hello, strangers and friends.

I live in India n am currently a user of Samsung Galaxy Ace. I wish to buy Nexus 4, but unfortunately Google does not sell devices here, which is why I have asked a friend of mine in the US to get it for me and bring it to India. The issue is, he's arriving on the 2nd of December this year n leaving for the US again in a week or two after his arrival in India. After that it's gonna be a long time before he visits India again.

In short, I have to decide whether or not to go for Nexus 4 around 5-6 days before December 2. With the release being scheduled on 13th November, I might not have enough time to wait for the hands-on reviews of ppl on forums. LG making the phone was concern enough because I am not familiar with the build quality of any LG devices or barely even know anyone using em, but now this post makes me worried about getting stuck with a defective piece as Google only replaces products within 15 days.

$350 might be cheaper but it's not exactly cheap.

In your opinion, what should be my course of action??

Thanks in advance :)
[Nexus 4 General] xzr3b0rnzx:
i am also taking the risk because i live in singapore and i am asking a friend to purchase for me in US and he is coming in december.. but i believe korean products have better workmanship than taiwanese/china products like HTC or ASUS.. fingers crossed
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
They do not. They send you a UPS sticker on their arm.

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[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
Asus will be Asus. The original pad, to the prime, to the Nexus 7, to the Infinity, they all have major hardware issues. Although I am not sure I trust LG either, I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt.

The Samsung Nexus 10 is totally safe though from my experiences with the GS2, Tab 10.1, and GS3 though.
[Nexus 4 General] kindiboy:
Why is this thread still open?!
[Nexus 4 General] EnIXmA:
No, they sent me RMA and prepaid UPS sticker in my Gmail inbox. I put both of them in my N7 box and shipped it to them. Then I purchased the n7 from a virtual prepaid payment link they e-mailed me. My credit card was never charged. As soon as they received the defected device, they shipped me a new n 7.
[Nexus 4 General] androidtoy09:
I'd give them hell if i receive a defective unit. Given LG's reputation, I'll wait it out at least a month.
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
I can't :/ Won't have my funds (and most likely my debit card) until a few days after lol... but if I did have them ready for launch, I would, without hesitation :p
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
What will you learn from early adopters? That THEY don't like it?

You have pictures, stats sheet, videos, reviews. If you don't know what you're getting! You wont know later. If it has anything unexpected, restocking fee does not apply.
[Nexus 4 General] Papa Smurf151:
I have semi cleaned up this thread.

I'm gonna say a few things and leave it at that....

1. This thread is almost useless and I'm tempted to close it

2. I understand everyone is waiting on the phone to drop and then these worthless threads will die out but that gives nobody the right to troll or flame anyone

3. If you are going to say things to instigate someone flaming you do not report it and expect to be in the clear. Just cause you report something doesn't mean you are innocent.

4. Know the rules when buying a phone on launch day then don't complain on XDA if you are not happy.
[Nexus 4 General] compact_bijou:
N4 is a pre Xmas cash cow. I will not be buying one.

I'll pop back into this forum in a few months for a laugh at the complaints from those who didn't see it coming.

Don't get mugged like apple fanbois.

Sent from my sodastream
[Nexus 4 General] lnfound:
Calling a phone with specs that normally sell for 2x more a "cash cow" is exaggerating a bit no?
[Nexus 4 General] neodoru:
For the (proud) guys from UK who are glad they don't have the restocking fee: you pay ~500$, we pay 350, so you pretty much pay the restocking fee even without returning it :D. (forgive my menace please :) )

Semi on-topic:

If u miss the chance to get it now, you'll droll on the forums for Google-knows how long till the resupply... the chances for the phone to have major hardware issues are pretty slim, and anything software gets fixed in a week (you'll get Google updates anyway).
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I don't expect Google to spend money so you can rent the phone for a bit and see if you like it. If it's defective they will surely send you a replacement.

If you want to try it out Tmobile has a 14 day remorse I think if you get a plan. Maybe do that.

That said, I bought my GNex gray market last Nov and it had a ton of stability issues for some time until they finally fixed them with ota's. I am not so naive to expect perfection ootb.
[Nexus 4 General] compact_bijou:
Loss leader. Aggressive market positioning.

Mark it down as marketing, market positioning, write that off as a tax loss on R&D to date drop a bomb in the market, grab a huge slice of that market then walk away for three months.

Then do it bigger three months down the line.

You've seen that over the last three months with the N7

Buy N4 or buy not. There will be cry ;)

Sent from my sodastream
[Nexus 4 General] Infinimint:
OP just wants the phones all for himself :P
[Nexus 4 General] lnfound:
Makes sense, but considering they actually advertised the nexus 7, this is a bit different. I wouldn't consider doubling the storage in 3 months much of a feat. You can wait 3 months for the next best thing all year long. 3 months from now gs4 rumors will be swirling, playing the waiting game with tech besides waiting for the next year specs (s4 pro) is a losing game.
[Nexus 4 General] ap3604:
I most definitely am NOT ordering a Nexus 4 on the 13th, if I wanted to I would simply stay up and order one the first minute they went available at midnight or whenever... but I've learned over time for me personally to never order the first batch of any phone.

I only started the thread to help others since I ordered the Galaxy Nexus before and found out about this unfortunate Google Play restocking fee policy first hand :(

Thank you for the clean up but I'll say a few things as well and leave it at that....

1 & 2. If you have a personal opinion thats fine, we all do, but don't come on a thread as a moderator where the original post has 64 thank you's and counting and call it "worthless." I report insulting posts earlier in order to have a moderator remove them, not to have a moderator come on the thread and call it worthless when the thank you's obviously show the thread has a lot of value for those that didn't know about the subject.

3. Perhaps you are talking about someone else but this better not be directed at me. I reported a post of a random user that came on, who I didn't say anything to, accusing me of being a "dimwitted child" and a "troll" for no reason just because they thought I started this thread in order to somehow guarantee myself a Nexus 4 on release day (like a single thread would really make the difference :rolleyes:), even though I won't be ordering the Nexus at all on launch day and just started this thread to be helpful so other people aren't caught off guard by a restocking fee they didn't know about.

4. Yes, of course in an ideal world this would happen, but it doesn't. A lot of people might want to just want to try out a phone thinking they can return it without any hassle if they don't like it and be unpleasantly surprised with a restocking fee. Apparently according to the amount of "thank you" replies there are a LOT of people this thread helped out.
[Nexus 4 General] aDVnatgae:
When is the good time to buy nexus 4?

I dont want to deal with restocking fee? How much time does it take for that to go away?
[Nexus 4 General] ak700:
There will be some kind of tax. However, restocking fee will vanish after ~2 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] ap3604:
I would suggest doing what I am going to do:

1. Wait a couple of weeks to see what the early adopters have to say and if there is any main issues being experienced by the majority of users that would turn me off.

2. If the early adopter reviews are good without issues, go to T-mobile store and check out one in person to see if its the right device for you.

3. Order one through the Google play store once you are absolutely certain its the phone for you and there isn't any issues you will experience.
[Nexus 4 General] ak700:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] aDVnatgae:
There is one problem

I CANT WAIT 2 WEEKS

I hate google for that restocking fee.(@#(*$&@(#&$@)(#*$)(#@*$)

:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
What's even more wrong in all that is you implied that pretty much anything would make you pay 15% fee and you got thank you'd for that. When, what you quoted from Google, its normal practice and Google is known to not charge restocking fee if the reason your are not satisfied is even slightly on their end.

Plus, until very recently, you were saying if its because of a flaw we would get slammed by 15%.

I'll go and quote any normal practice in the ToS and yell warning and get 100 thanks too.

So you basicly got thanked for falsely almost slandering a company that's been good on that side. You are a hero to warn us of the evil. Hooray hooray.

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And apparently buying a 300$ unlocked phone is more complicated than buying a car now.
[Nexus 4 General] ap3604:
The ignore list is a great feature here at Xda for dealing with people who get bent out of shape for someone simply trying to help... Have a nice life :good:

As for your claims of "google is not known for charging a restocking fee", I would rather get something in writing of that claim straight from google rather than the word of some random xda poster such as yourself... and on google's page it specifically states there IS a restocking fee for returns for US and CA residents.
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Google is known to not charge restocking fee if the reason your are not satisfied is even slightly on their end.

That is what I said.... when you take things that much out of context and re-word it your way, life must be easy.
[Nexus 4 General] Papa Smurf151:
1 & 2 Thanks mean nothing

3. You antagonized someone by being just as rude as someone else was while expecting that just reporting it would make you the good guy.

4. Not owning the phone and causing a big stink over it causes me to take one last step....

thread closed
[General Questions and Answers] migueldefy:
hi i have a doud about the new 2ndboot seccion on the cm10 defy post (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1768702) i was trying to update my current cm10 build but i am on the latest 24.09 then i notice the 2ndboot builds come on and i don´t get what these are exactly if these are safe or still experimental if i can install these as main , also pepole talk about some updates v3 , v4 and diffrent cameras bugs etc so what should i do ( my phone is laggy)

thanks
[General Questions and Answers] RedKungFuMastr:
Hey guys,

since more than a month i am using the xperia active from Sony Ericsson and i ve still guarantee on it.

It s an awesome smartphone, but sometimes the RAM is overloaded and it starts to lag.

Then the battery works for just a day, because of the background-apps, then i ve to charge it again... really annoying :(

Thats why i want to root my smartphone. Actually i ve ICS(4.0.4) on it (before it was 2.3 or sth.) and i would like to keep it, but on it i want superuser rights. Therefore i found "zergrush" from doomlord, but in other threads i just read thats for Android 2.2/2.3 ...

Is it possible to root my phone without loosing my guarantee (to make root "nearly" unseen after unroot, in case of warranty) on that device?

(sorry for my bad english, i hope you understood my situation and give me some answers :D)

greetings Red :angel:
[General Questions and Answers] Ghostfreak NB:
You can try rooting using Doomlords method for ICS

Flash a stock kernel of 4.0.3

Root it using Doomlords kit

PS its a batch file

Flash back 4.0.4 kernel

Done !!!

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1678690

[ROOT][FTF][locked/unlocked]Neo/Neo V Official 4.0.4 ICS 4.1.B.0.431; 4.1.B.0.587

This is for Neo

But yours is also similar phone so might work

Try at your own risk

I am not responsible for any damage....

So read a few threads beforehand !
[General Questions and Answers] _Variable:
Noo, dont root. Youll get stuck in fastboot and spend $12 on repairs!
[General Questions and Answers] carlyle69:
Whether you're going to root it or not is up to u. However, if u do root and u want to make it unseen or unroot, flashing an official stock rom removes the root data.

i read a thread that made a few things clear, i cant remember who posted it (sorry) but it just said that if they cant prove that u rooting your phone is the cause of whatever wrnt rong with your phone, they will still have to fix it under the warranty.

I also never heard of anyone messing up their android as a result of rooting.

Im not saying jump into it and root your android, be careful as we are always warned that their are risks onvolved and developers knows best:)
[General Questions and Answers] Ghostfreak NB:
No man.... if you read well before doing nothing like that would happen...
[General Questions and Answers] Ghostfreak NB:
Very nicely explained mate....

Good
[General Questions and Answers] zenaldo:
For sure root it´s the best option for anyone that like to customize the system.
[General Questions and Answers] s00087922:
You should try superoneclick its a program which basically roots your your phone for you, gives you superuser and there shouldn't be drastic changes to your OS either

google it and download then go to youtube and follow a tutorial such as youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=lD4_wAj1WIY (sorry cant post links yet)

As for warranties I'm not sure but this is the safest and easiest method I'm aware of

but you should probably make sure it works on your phone and make a backup before you try it
[LG Nitro HD] hengjiu:
Searching around , can't find any custom stock ICS Rom, all based on CM10,CM9 or others.
[LG Nitro HD] el_venga:
The only stock base roms are a MIUI ics and hono's v20 cwm.

Sent from my Abacus
[LG Nitro HD] Swetnes:
MIUI is very good my favorite next to stock. My only issue was the voice search was strictly Chinese even though I had Google search it still pulled up the Chinese version when I hit the button on my BT or pressed and held down search. The launcher was the best I have tried even though there is no app drawer.
[HTC Rezound] swbf2lord:
I unlocked the bootloader on my Rezound a few hours ago, but ever since then it has been stuck in a bootloop. I wasn't on stock though, so did that have anything to do with it? I've tried reflashing the ROM, and that doesn't help.
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
How did you flash another ROM without unlocking your bootloader?
[HTC Rezound] famouscollin:
Agreed.. If you weren't on stock then your bootloader must have been previously unlocked.. what Rom are you using/trying to use.? You need to have a custom recovery installed after you unlock, you couldn't have flashed a rom from stock recovery..
[HTC Rezound] swbf2lord:
Bootloader was locked, but it was unlocked previously, and a custom recovery had been installed. When I got the phone, it was rooted, S-Off, and on the stock ROM. It had Amon Ra's recovery already installed, but again, as I said the bootloader was locked.

EDIT: Oh and the ROM I was using (successfully before the unlock) was CounterShrike.
[HTC Rezound] famouscollin:
Well first off if you were s-off why did you need to unlock your bootloader? What hboot are you using?
[HTC Rezound] GrayBoltWolf:
Collin is right.

All you really need to do is wipe everything and flash a ROM. Since you are s-off everything else will be taken care of.
[HTC Rezound] swbf2lord:
Okay. I haven't really been using HTC devices so I didn't know what S-Off actually did. I went ahead and fixed it with the RUU.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Gack69:
Thinking about getting a refurb'd Mopho or swapping for one on like Craigs list or something. I hear that 2.3.5 can be unlocked IF it came from factory that way, but NOT from an OTA update...is there a way to tell which is which? Or is that even true?

TIA.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lightsword1942:
It was possible for the electrify at least. This has some more information and how you can check.
[Motorola Photon 4G] na7q:
this is ONLY possible on the Electrify and NOT on the Photon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] mquezada21:
Did you try using the electrify 2.3.5 pudding on the photon? I was just wondering if that would work on a 2.3.5 photon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lightsword1942:
There is only one working pudding file and it is the same for both phones.
[Galaxy S III General] Ben Ling:
Guys,did you have Xperia S ICS Home Launcher apk,Official Xperia S ICS Home?i don't want to flash it via CWM.Like previously Xperia S Home Launcher,but i want the ICS version....and the home launcher with settings...

Can any one mod for me ?

Thanks in advance...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ManLaw:
I tried to root my phone and the program wouldnt recognize it

decided to restore my phone and now most of my apps are one and i cant text anymore
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dr12volt1338:
Can you give some more info? What method did you try and root with? What errors did you get? What do you mean you can't text anymore? Under settings for your messaging app do you have a number under the Message Center?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ManLaw:
tried to root using this method

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1762709

and it wouldnt recognize my device so i rooted using oden

it seemed to work but when i opened my apps list most of them were gone, i only had 1 page of apps

when i try to text it says "unfortunately, messaging has stopped"

it wont even let me open settings when i go into messages
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ManLaw:
bump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dr12volt1338:
OK. when you used ODIN what .TAR file did you flash? the ROOT66 one? There are others there that eliminate most all of the bloatware from VZW. Also the link you posted isn't valid.....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ManLaw:
yes

and my bad

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dr12volt1338:
I just rooted one yesterday with that DebugFS and didn't have an issue one..... I am going to guess a bad download somewhere... Did you check MD5's? I would download the Samsung drivers again download the DebugFS again and verify that you follow it step by step.... and double check MD5 to make sure you are getting a good download.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ManLaw:
aware me on MD5's
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dr12volt1338:
MD5's are the long series of numbers and letters that accompany most downloads... You can find free MD5 SUM checkers on the net for your computer depending on your OS... You copy the MD5 from the download site and compare it to the one that the program you get generates... They must match to show all the info stayed the same through the download....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] shahkam:
I think you forgot to untick factory reset in odin ?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] hkhan1:
I was using Ics on galaxy s3, I rooted the phone and it was working fine. Today I update from ICS to Official Jelly Bean 4.1. I then went ahead and use the S3 tool kit to root the phone, now when phone reboot I can hear the sound but all I can see is blank screen. I can go to download mode, CWM recovery and that is it. Any idea?

I have the original odin file that I can use to reinstall the ICS.

I want to install official JB and want to root that. Any help out ther will be appreciated.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dante32278:
First get your phone out of boot loop, use one of the stock files posted in the dev section (use the JB one since that's what you want to be on). Then use Odin to flash a custom recovery, boot into the recovery and flash the team epic root zip. Go to qbking77.com for a how to vid on the root process and links for the files you need. Its very simple.