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[HTC One X] marelz2:
HTC answer to question when Baltic states will get JB update!

Thank you for your enquiry regarding update jelly bean. We are happy to inform that the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update has begun to roll out to HTC One X handsets in Europe since 29th of October. Our devices are available on a wide variety of carriers and across many countries, due to localization, testing, and partner approvals, updates do not roll out to all devices with the same name at the same time. Even once a software update begins to roll out from HTC or a carrier partner, the update can take up to 45 days from the initial push to reach each person with that device on a given network. If your phone does not receive the update after the 45-day period, navigate to Settings > About > Software Updates to have your device manually check for updates and please contact us again. If you have any further enquiries you are welcome to contact us again. Kind regards

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[HTC One X] stuart0001:
Nope, wifi interference and sensor issues with some phones with all those leaks to date.
[HTC One X] leventccc:
I will trade my phone at 20th of this month and my phone uses 1.31 hboot. I should lock the bootloader and return to %100 stock before trade. Is there any way of doing that without ruu or s-off?
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Real nice mate!!!!:rolleyes:
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Thanks man, I feel much calmer now after reading all that Chinese!

Seriously, what does it say?
[HTC One X] thekillingroad:
Of course Apple will anounce and release.

Did HTC anounce anything?

I am also not satisfied with HTC's PR job during this update process, but we do not have to make false comparisons.

The truth is simple. HTC is "modifying" someone else's software and adding features to it.

This is how its supposed to work.

Do complain about their PR, their answers, but not anything else.

This is how it was supposed to, how it's used to be, and how it will be. They are not developing their own operating system.

edit: If we want to complain, yes the feedback marelz2 has got is pure sh*t.

But again, ok I don't wanna repeat it any more :) :D
[HTC One X] caedanne:
Do you know how to use google chrome or google translate?
[HTC One X] gkm8123:
Hey guys cool the smartphones is not a football....

Gesendet von meinem HTC One X mit Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] siemz:
Try not to derail the thread again , about Samsung ..lol

Send from my HTC One X using TapTalk

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Ps: today the HTC one x is in stores in Holland

Send from my HTC One X using TapTalk
[HTC One X] massalami:
Had htc fixed their bugs both in software and hardware at release, Samsung would've been obliterated and the hox would've been best phone of the year. It's proven in recent benchmarks and the recent battery life in their new software. In other words, the reason why they're at this predicament is their own customer support and lack of proper bug fixes before release.

That's the reason why I believe they're working hard on fixing these issues to avoid their initial mistake to happen.

Be patient and have faith that it'll be worth it fellas. :D
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Yes I do. Perhaps you could show me what I'm doing wrong.

Then I could teach you how to relax and maybe even have a sense of humour :laugh:
[HTC One X] StefanCelMare:
Very hard to get an ETA on this update :)

I looked up the french carrier who announced rollout of JB for OneX on 6th of November, and nothing is changed, although I doubt it did start.

In their defence, they said +/- 1 week, so they are still not wrong.

In other news, today HTC Romania made a comment on the 4.1 update for the OneX saying: "Hello all, we know you are anxious to get the update. As you know, it will be available for each of you in the coming period, based on your IMEI".

Hm... as we know? coming period? IMEI? Hm.

Oh well.
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
Don't wait for it day and night. It would be even more delighted if it pops up out of the sudden when you are least expected it to be likes when you are having lunch, dinner or even....during sex...lol :D

Cheers! :)
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Let me guess, you have Jelly Bean already? And your having sex! ;)
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Then you have to think would the JB update be worth stopping the bedroom fun?

:eek::silly:;)
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
**********

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Nope! It is still ice cream sex....:p

Cheers! :cool:
[HTC One X] faxel:
hehe. funny. but be on topic thread may close. did any beta tester has jb firmware of htc _044?
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
I would have to say yes lol there will be world wide orgasms when jelly bean hits :victory: OOOOH JELLY BEAN !!! :silly:

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I don't think its the off topic as much as the *****ing they're bothered about?
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Lol, cue the missus with the rolling pin! ;)

Anyhoo back on topic, I see that the HTC_621 CID can now be added to the list of compatible CIDs for updating HBOOT for custom roms, I was helping someone the other day who managed to update thier firmware and flash a nandroid backup of the JB rom for that region

Also, there's nothing wrong with a bit of light hearted banter as xda is also for having a laugh with fellow one-x geeks! as long as it doesnt flood the thread, much better than horrible flame wars :)
[HTC One X] knobbyhtccruise:
Must be phone sex ...:laugh:
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
O! We just understand the reason for the HTC delay! You don`t have a sex :laugh:

So, hurry up!
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
I think we need a moderator for these .....umm jokes!
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
No, we just need something "real" to talk about. Like an actual update perhaps? ;)
[HTC One X] Jayedamina:
Lol....and this train just ran off the track.*sighs*
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Has anyone heard anything apart from jb is rolling out etc.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Here's my guess...

They intended to follow Taiwan with other regions but found issues that caused them to stop the roll-out and make changes to the s/w. Taiwan users received an update after they got JB and Elevate members have reported one or two more after that. So once they get whatever they found settled the roll-out should re-start; probably with another Taiwan update for good measure. The One X+ is delayed so perhaps whatever was found in the One X JB update is affecting it also. If all this is in fact going on and no one told the cerfs in the field that would explain why we're still getting "it's rolling out" messages when it clearly isn't. All just a guess on my part of course.
[HTC One X] zuadao:
Yeah, expansys sent a mail about having the hox+ on stock but the website says irá not... So they are also waiting for HTC :)
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Sounds logical, not very exciting though.... I think they are taking a bit longer to add new super features and innovations for us loyal HTC customers! :fingers-crossed:
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
A couple of days ago Clove's website said "first stock delayed" so I guess the fact that some apparently shipped could be viewed as good news if in fact s/w was part of the delay. So in some form JB is now floating around at least in the UK.
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
Has anyone any idea how to get real state and real dates of "it's rolling out"? May be it will be smart to make phone call to the HTC main office or we can ask somebody visit HTC main office to get true info? :confused:
[HTC One X] Cloudane:
Sorry if a dumb question, still quite new to Android. Enlightened ex Apple fanboi :)

Any reason (apart from Sense, obviously) not to just use one of the vanilla JB ROMs? I.e. does it need other tweaks from HTC to really work properly and using a vanilla ROM would cause problems?

I'd wait for this, but it's starting to feel like waiting for an Apple device jailbreak *shudder* could be a week could be months could be never (like the AppleTV3)!
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
I can share my personal experiences in rolling out s/w. You allocate a certain amount of time for both coding and testing and then pad that by about 25% to account for the unknown. You never release a hard date because the unknown can and will bite you in the ass sometimes. Always better to under promise and over deliver. For HTC to have deployed JB to actual users in Taiwan they had to have thought it was done or at least 99% so. Something appears to have happened or Elevate members wouldn't be receiving test ROMs so quickly after a production ROM rolled out to Taiwan. So the answer to your question is they themselves probably won't know a hard date until whatever interrupted the process is isolated and resolved. But if they weren't 99% of the way there they wouldn’t have turned their Taiwanese customers in to a nation of Guinea pigs.
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
No, actually there is a sense 4+/jb Rom already. Flash away ;)
[HTC One X] Cloudane:
Thanks for the info but presumably if it has Sense it's a buggy prerelease?
[HTC One X] Alien1213:
http://generationmobiles.net/des-details-sur-la-maj-de-la-gamme-one-vers-android-4-1-1-jelly-bean/

If you translate from french : JB will arrive 19 november.
[HTC One X] coos lick:
Any bugs will be highlighted in the thread for the rom. Users are not normally shy about shouting about anything found!

Your choice then if you want to go ahead.
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
Thanks a lot. Its clear that "you never release a hard date" and that "about 25% to account for the unknown".

I guess that "it's rolling out" from HTC earlier, "mysterious silence" now and no any official notice about OTA delay aren't the best way of corporate communication with their customers. But in my humble opinion some hint from us will be very useful for HTC. They can more communicate with their customers to prevent current situation in future when a half of the Earth can't sleep, waiting for real start of OTA rolling out...

Sorry for some overpaint :(
[HTC One X] nookcoloruser:
Question...

If the HTC One X+ ships with JB and sense 4+ is that as 'buggy' as the Taiwanese rom? I see its in stock at a number of retailers now, so clearly on sale. If it isn't buggy at all, and hardware is near identical to current international HTC One X, what is the delay?

Is it a problem with the OTA process itself?

It's all very strange :/
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
The front camera is different on the One X+ and it's routed through ImageSense and the audio's different too. It uses a different version of Teg3 (T33 vs. T30) with different memory (800MHz vs. 533MHz). So it's definitely not a one-for-one swap. Football and xmoo probably can provide more detail. I'd guess that the apps and Sense are the same on both though. I guess it depends on what the issue is/was as to whether it would affect both equally.

I doubt it.

Yes, yes it is. ;)
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
Sorry. Double post fail. Please delete.
[HTC One X] GriffinSauce:
What I just can't understand with these companies is why they are not transparent about this.

So a complicated development project had hit a snag? Publish it!!

If you tell users "Hey we have a problem getting the camera to focus properly because of xyz, hang on!" (disclaimer: completely bogus example) they will be much less angry. The more honestly you report about issues like this, the less people will get pissy.

Really on edge: You could even enlist the XDA (and any other) community .. tell them "hey here's this problem we have, maybe you guys can help us hack it out". That is not a statement of weakness, it's a statement of brotherhood and openness. This will probably never happen, but with an open source platform like this it should!
[HTC One X] Sentinel196:
I gave up waiting and flashed CyanogenMod10. I couldn't be happier. I won't be going back to a Sense based ROM after this experience.

Interestingly, even though I'm still on the non JB HBOOT, all the issues I had with screen flicker and auto backlight brightness flicker ave gone away with CM10. The problems must be kernel related rather than HBOOT related.
[HTC One X] akhil8377:
I fully agree with this statement, hard to believe why companies can't follow this simple principle
[HTC One X] amirage:
You do realise that by the time HTC finally decides to move its arse and release 4.1.1 to all the CIDs, android is already 2 versions ahead of HTC.

You know something, if you look at HTC's balance sheets, the company is available at dirt cheap value because of the huge debt. From the looks of it, HTC's aimless strategies only show that it has no sense of direction and destined to fail very soon. I won't be surprised if HTC gets taken over by another company very soon.

No doubt HTC has made great phones over the years, but it has no clue where it's going!
[HTC One X] dragonesdenano:
I dont know, but, when you are using samsung mobiles do you cry the same about its cheap plastic and ugly phone? I dont think so. :)

SkyDragon Sense Rom V1
[HTC One X] exoticashu:
I am totally on same page with waiting for JB... but you suggestion for HTC to go open on their Dev issues, doesn't seems a good replacement.. May be you will not complain then.... but there will be again 100 of people speaking against the Dev team of HTC....

people will complain in all the conditions, if they wont get what they want.... people want to get JB, doesn't matter what ever the reason..
[HTC One X] pappas99:
my friend from Australia got the update last night

HTC_621

I believe he bought his phone from mobicity.com.au, unbranded
[HTC One X] massalami:
that's taywan cid, bro. HTC_621 that is.

thanks though
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Posts that start like this are what got the last JB threads(s) closed. Cool opinion; it has nothing to do with the discussion of the update we're waiting for. Start a new "I hate HTC" thread if you want to discuss their incompetence or demise. It's been two weeks since the last one.
[HTC One X] ramis7:
INTERNAL SOURCE news: Mid of November update is expected to release before it is not possible coz HTC is testing very carefully. so cool down guys.:(
[HTC One X] amirage:
The reason why the last thread was closed was posts like mine totally derailed from the topic. However, this thread is all about *****ing about HTC isn't it? This thread that's linked to other JB discussion hence the reason for my post..but if you think it was posted wrongly please do get it deleted. I have no issues.

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Dude, who really is the internal source? I'm an internal source to HTC too...
[HTC One X] Dmitry N:
His source is more internal, how don't you understand? I would rather say it's so internal that it could be called infernal.

Just trust the guy, won't you? :)
[HTC One X] exocetdj:
Not in here please mate
[HTC One X] Dysphonic:
Nobody told me there was a communication problem.
[HTC One X] AttilaGolik:
About 8 days... Not so long to wait I think:)
[HTC One X] tasos12:
I am not sure what he means....The update will come in Mid November or after Mid November?
[HTC One X] stesa:
Please kindly wait for our agent to assist ...

It is in contact with Tanya.

Tanya: Hi alfredo, thank you for contacting HTC Technical Support. How can I help you?

rando alfredo: hello

alfredo rando: I would like to ask why the update has not yet come to jelly beans on my htc one x

Tanya: the update will be released November 19

alfredo rando: one for all x?

alfredo rando: or in specific regions?

Tanya: for htc one X europe

alfredo rando: ah thanks was very kind

alfredo rando: I wish you a good day
[HTC One X] atrako1973:
Question remains ,why is it that Samsung release gs3 after the hox ,yet Samsung was able to roll out jb update a month ago, and all gs3 owners are getting the update,yet HTC keeps strolling and getting it wrong ,again HTC need to sack their communication manager ,don't give time frame if you can't or don't have the means to deliver ,it happened with the ics update for HTC phones ,now it happening with hox ,delay after delay,stop giving time frames, worst HTC is saying its rolling out fact is its not ,HTC is not learning from past mistakes,
[HTC One X] Dysphonic:
Maybe because Touchwiz is lighter than Sense? Or maybe because there is no SGS4... Since JB continues to rollout for 621 cid I have to wonder what is all the testing is for?
[HTC One X] badomen:
I've just asked UK support again and got the stock "We don't know" answer, so I'm taking the 19th with a big pinch of salt.
[HTC One X] jeyml:
Touchwiz is lighter than Sense,and also the S3 doesn't have so many versions for regions as HTC has.Honestly i don't know why you guys are so upset about this update.If there was a worldwide problem with the HOX and the only way you could fix that problem was trough this update then i would understand this general upset that people have.Indeed there are some interesting features that come along with the new JB update,but for me the phone works just fine now,i have no problems with it,i have all the apps that i need and honestly this update doesn't matter so much to me.The only thing that i would like HTC to do is to make an update in which the user selects which launcher to use.I like sense,but after a while it gets borring.I like the stock launcher that cames with the new JB that my friend has on his nexus.Oww,and one more thing,if you guys are so mad about this updates,why would you buy a HOX?Buy a developers phone like the Nexus for example.
[HTC One X] civarch:
I own a sgs3 and updated it to jb before i sold it. There are no significant changes on the ui. Just the bare jb enhancements. So it felt like theres no big update on it. Tw really sucks. Thats why they updated their flagship unit faster to jb.
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
To prevent some misunderstanding, I kindly try to repeat: the question is not whether someone can not control the emotions or can't wait for OTA or hate HTC. Nobody are upset about JB update. All of us, I think, would prefer more clear, transparent communication of HTC, that we love all.

And we will be more respect, if we get it :)
[HTC One X] High Tech Commuter:
Exactly... you're talking about two different things in the first quote (Samsung vs. HTC, and HTC's communications people). Samsung has revenues of ~$250bn and net income of ~$18bn. HTC is 9.5 and 1.3 respectively. Samsung have 369,000 employees, HTC have 17,000. Samsung can fall back on its many other profitable divisions. HTC has had to reduce its entire product range to one line. Yes, you could say that this makes it 'easier' for them, but in reality they're losing money and being squeezed. They just don't have comparable resources. Don't get me wrong, I love my One X and have owned many HTC phones in the past ... and will continue to do so in the future.

As for the communications people, I believe they said something along the lines of "it's rolling out now" towards the end of October. (Don't jump down my throat if I'm out by a few days!) We all know this rollout is never instantaneous around the world with HTC, and the reasons for this have been explained by many people here, who have also pointed out that if you need updates urgently and are buying a premium device, a) do you research and know that HTC have always done this kind of thing, and b) get a Nexus. They also say it takes up to 45 days, so early December. We also know that the rollout did start shortly after their announcement, in Taiwan. And again, as many people have said, this revealed known bugs which are now being fixed. So either HTC rush their development [/I]even more[/I] to keep impatient people happy, resulting in a higher number of bugs and the same people venting PLUS their reputation damaged, or they halt (not stop) the deployment of known buggy software for an extra week or two before the releasing to the rest of the world. What is the problem with this? It's rational, understandable, sensible, businesslike and was probably influenced by HTC's "communication manager."
[HTC One X] jeyml:
Yeah,i think i understand but lets put it this way.If HTC announced the JB update for..let's say today (in Europe that is) and the update wouldn't been launched today because of some problems,then the HTC owners will be really upsed because they would feel lied to and betrayed.So HTC decided not to make any official date announcements because of that.It is a hard work because of the regions,because of the Sense,because HOX was made with so many different components.I mean,take an example:the HOX has 3 or 4 types of camera's.The Tegra 3 proccesor also has 4 types out there.It is hard to make an update that would work on all those components.

That is why after the last update alot of the HOX users reported problems with the Wifi.The wifi antena has 3 types and HTC rushed the update (because of the screen flickering issues and such) and they created another problem for the people who own a HOX with that type of Wifi antena.

Take a look at the Nexus,the nexus has only 2 types of cameras build for it,only 2 types of motherboards,and so on.It is easyer to make and release an update for a phone that doesn't have Sense,and doesn't have that many hardware options.And also,that is a developers phone,unlike the HOX.
[HTC One X] High Tech Commuter:
That's absolutely fair enough and I agree to a point, but for all we know this would have rolled out quite quickly (especially after they saw the 4.0.4 backlash) but then those bugs became apparent. I'm not saying they would have rolled out globally in 48 hours, but the kind of people on this forum (rather than Joe Public who probably don't even know an update is coming) also know that the bugs are being fixed, and this is undoubtedly causing a delay regardless of HTC's rollout capabilities.
[HTC One X] Andy:
See what is happening again?

This thread is to Discus Jelly Bean 4.1/4.2, not to bash HTC, not to tell XDA that this is your last HTC device (BTW no-one cares), or any other non Jelly Bean related topic.

This is the last warning, make no mistake any more nonsense and this thread will be locked and every thread that pops up in its place will be deleted. Do not respond to trolls report it and ignore it.
[HTC One X] jeyml:
You are right.Not to mention another thing that people forget:Samsung is the leader of selling at the moment.The Galaxy S3 was sold in over 30 milion units,while the HOX has almost 10 or 12 milion units sold.Samsung have to release things faster and work faster so they can remain on top.You can't be a top firm if you can release updates/phones fast.You can't compair Samsung with HTC and probably you can't never compair them,even in the future.Samsung has many divisions and a ten times more highter income that HTC.

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JellyBean 4.1?
[HTC One X] High Tech Commuter:
Andy, not sure who this is directed towards, but if me I apologise for the confusion ... I was actually trying to appease and balance the discussion, by explaining the reason for the current delay (bugs) to all those who don't understand the reason for it after the rollout announcement in October, using some numbers and reasoning. :) No trolling or malice meant towards anyone!
[HTC One X] Andy:
Yes, Jelly Bean 4.1
[HTC One X] fayazxda:
jb

hi ive got the asia version of the one x and im on the stock version. all i wanted to know is how will it come? as in will it come under my software updates or what?
[HTC One X] amirage:
my bad..apologies
[HTC One X] haree:
hi

u will get the OTA when it is released for ur CID:good::laugh:
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
Could anybody be so kind to contact HTC Technical support that is responsible for phones with CID HTC__044?

And get info on plans OTA update rolling up for this CID?

Formerly, we've got info on JB European update plans ( from France and Italy 19 November). May be we can get for Asia HTC__044?;)