yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] -JFK-:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3k06KRLerMUQkVZTUJCRngyZDQ/edit?usp=sharing
[Nexus 4 General] THEBANDIT420:
Saber mod ROC 4 (4.2.2) + trinity kernel CPU oc to 1.76 gpu 487 mhz
[Nexus 4 General] richport29:
I'm on stock 4.3,any recommendations as far as settings to improve benchmark scores. My Quadrant scores are all in the 4900 area. Pretty disappointing considering my RAZR HD scores around 5500.
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
Latest PSX and latest NEO Kernel.

1,8 Ghz Antutu V4

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1.7GHZ Antutu V3

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Can't run Antutu V3 at 1.8 Ghz because I don't have a fridge nearby :)

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[Nexus 4 General] -JFK-:
Use a custom kernel like NEO or Trinity.

In dev option, thick "force GPU rendering"

And if you can, flash a custom ROM too, I suggest you PSX for example.

Your benchmark score will explode!
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
He only needs the dalvik patch.
[Nexus 4 General] lilgiz:
Home cooked RBJ

Neo 002
[Nexus 4 General] Vortex1969:
Some PSX action..
[Nexus 4 General] leandronb:
what is the fastest ROM available? i mean clean flash install antutu and do a benchmark and do not changing kernels?

i already tried:

PA, CM, PSX, Rasbeanjelly and all of them lost in benchmarks to stock 4.3 jwr66v(i did not benchmarked jwr66y yet) that made 17000 on antutu.

is there a faster rom?
[Nexus 4 General] -JFK-:
Currently (I guess) PSX with NEO or Trinity.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
This is PSX, stock kernel, no tweaks, no changes...as flashed. If you werent breaking 17k something was very wrong. This was first run, no clean install, no reboot, just as I use it.
[Nexus 4 General] leandronb:
but with the each rom stock kernel? just rom itself without change kernels.

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Maybe something wrong with my device or maybe a heat problem. One time I flashed faux kernel on PA and just got 9000. Now I am using latest cm with a 16800 score on antutu.

EDIT: Do you guys wipe all data from device or do just a factory reset? previous roms i used i do not wiped sdcard data because all the work to download all large app data again, maybe this is the problem?

EDIT2:Man i am doing something wrong. i clean flash the rom, booted and just downloaded antutu. put in airplane mode, closed everything and ran antutu, this is my result:
[Nexus 4 General] Sturdy_99:
Matrix 10.5....:)

i have got 22213 with PSX and matrix 10.5.........Vanir and matrix 10.5 i got 21000......tried many roms till now and noticed some really fast roms PA,PSX,CM official nightlies...and the best kernel matrix..even though neo is based on matrix it does not give that much power.Not got good scores with neo....these scores are without overclocking frequencies just the gpu to max....can someone recommend some good roms and kernels to get atleast 23 to 24 thousand without overclock......:good::cool:

And ya i tried trinity and franco too. and CM official nightly kernel too...getting same nearly 21000 score....
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
People are getting 25k with neo >.<

And you need to of the CPU to reach 23+, CPU contributes significantly to the final score...
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
Highest ive got in the new Antutu.

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[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
Can you show your quadrant score, antutu 3d score not consistent.

Edit: this is my test on both kernel. All same settings.

Matr1x

Neo

If you lucky on antutu 3d, you can get higher score. But quadrant can get consistent score in many time. :p
[Nexus 4 General] -JFK-:
Hello,

Under PSX with NEO, FPS cap removed.

This is my daily use settings (all other's are stock) :

CPU : 1.5

Gouv : Ondemand

GPU : 400

Gouv : Ondemand

Min / Max : 192/1512

Hot plug : 1/4

I/O : 2048

FSync : Off

T° throttle : Off

And with some more power !

CPU : 1.8

Gouv : Perf

GPU : 533

Gouv : Perf

Min / Max : 192/1836

Hot plug : 1/4

I/O : 2048

FSync : Off

T° throttle : Off
[Nexus 4 General] Sturdy_99:
NEO=heat

neo kernel is heating my device it is at 37c even without using it.....and not getting good benchmarks too...i get 15000 scores....CPU type fastest:cool: and rom PSX....

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Im dont have time to post screenshots.....i have taken it....and yeah im getting benchmarks with matrix same as you...but donno why im getting 15000 scores with neo....and it also heats up my device..i was using neo 00.2.3 and also tried 00.3...same issue...cpu type fastest...

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PLZ explain what do you need by of the cpu?
[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
It depend on your setting too.

Btw, latest version today v4 test 3.

@ 1836 , gpu 487
[Nexus 4 General] Stark X:
Here's mine ! PSX with trinity !
[Nexus 4 General] THEBANDIT420:
I get such good benchmark score with neo but when playing games I get massive fps drops
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
It just goes to show benchmark scores are not indicative of real-world performance.

Sent by carrier pigeon
[Nexus 4 General] ore616:
PSX + BRICKED clocked 1.8ghz performance & noop. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
Try bumping up minimum CPU speed to something like 1026 MHz when playing games, this sorts it out for me.

Kernels like the stock one, faux etc raise the minimum frequency anyway which is why they give less frame drops, although they aren't as fast as neo - neo/matr1x will scale down to lower frequencies, e.g 540Mhz.

I use SetCPU which does this automatically for me, raises the min freq in games and lowers it again when I exit
[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
Thank for your info, we make kernel as tunable and user should change it as they want.

Cannot setting the same thing and good for all using. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
I don't think it can OC to 2.0GHz, let alone 2.x

The official spec of APQ8064 is up to 1.7GHz. So we can reasonably expect to be able to OC to 1.7. Anything higher will be very dangerous.
[Nexus 4 General] immunityx:
Wrong cm10 nightlies include this kernel

Sorry but it is a hardware problem not software like most people are screaming 4.2 is still jelly bean...new apps...camera... features does not break performance like this.
[Nexus 4 General] poid:
The kernel is what handles the processor, power management, memory etc. Its based off Linux but has been forked for Android.

For prior versions of Android a 3.0x kernel has been used. 3.4 is now being used in 4.2, and in that version the Android fork has been merged back into the Linux release itself (which will make it easier to develop for), and it has a bunch of new power management etc features. So its a pretty different kernel to what has been used before.

Since this is all new to Android phones, and i'll bet also since Google hasnt had the same experience with the S4Pro as other SoCs, there's a good chance that the battery and performance issues are simply kernel bugs. Especially since some benchmarks show great scores while others are rubbish (ie means its less likely bad hardware).

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And which phones come with CM10?

OK i'll make it "first official use of 3.4" instead, but doesnt change my point. If it was hardware, as in a gimped SoC, then you'd see poor scores across the board rather than inconsistent scores. You also wouldnt see reviews talking about how fast the phone is.

Just look at dev kernels; its real easy to have a stray line of code cause all sorts of battery and performance issues. I still maintain its far more likely to be software, particularly kernel, than hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] immunityx:
The lg opt G uses same hardware but run ICS..ya better benchmarks...still lower then the s3 international and note 2 in some benchmarks... But suffer the same problem.. thermal throttle problem, overheating, crashing and poor battery

Much as I want to believe that this is software or kernel related as I want a N4 myself but doesnt look like it is
[Nexus 4 General] :
What the f&*k? Do you actually use your phone or you wanna benchmark? I've gotten very inconsistent scores with benchmarks and don't trust them AT ALL. My HD2 used to get crazy Linpack scores and relatively good quadrant scores (Overclocked to 1.2GHz), easily beating the Nexus S but guess what, they run completely different performance wise in usage, same between the Skyrocket and i777 I used, high benchmarks on Skyrocket but poorer performance. Even PC manufacturers stopped using benchmarks cause they realized that real world usage is what matters, and how many times has it been mentioned these phones that were reviewed are using pre-release software, you can't read or something. November 13 isn't far away. Stop theorizing and wait till an informed review based on final release software comes out
[Nexus 4 General] skinnyq:
To prove this is a software issue, we could ask some reviewer to downgrade their unit to ICS and hope to see a change in benchmarks results.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Smh
[Nexus 4 General] jacklebott:
The Nexus 4 never had ICS to begin with
[Nexus 4 General] Cusa:
Someone email Google about the benchmarks to see if they are aware of this.
[Nexus 4 General] mejobloggs:
I'm mainly worried about possible thermal issues and not very impressive battery results. If it wasn't for that it'd be instant buy
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
Well, what do you expect?

4 cores burn 2x as much power as 2 cores IF you are actually using them. Plain physics.

More complicated/powerful GPU on the same 28nm technology WILL burn more power if you push it to the max. Also plain simple physics.

Consumed power turns to heat (also plain physics), heat has only very limited ways to escape the phone (through the case). Better ones if your phone is made out of metal and worse if out of glass/plastic.

In first case it MAY be running a bit longer until throttled, but will turn very unpleasant to hold very quick. In second case it will throttle a bit sooner, but won't be so unpleasant in the hand.

Now back to the real world: you don't want and usually won't use those cores at full load at prolonged amounts of time. Say longer than 100ms. Because this is what usually affects the perceived "performance" and "fluidity".

If your cores and GPU are maxed out for longer time, it means that you are already in deep **** anyway (or just benchmarking), as your phone (actually any phone, no matter which manufacturer or os) will turn "slow" and unuseable.

So, those termal issues are actually non-issues in the real world. Battery results could be better, but frankly, what do you expect given 4.7" 720p full RGB display with up to 470nit and only 2100mAh battery?
[Nexus 4 General] Nooby Arc S User:
You make me think (grrrr ;) ) if my arc s runs cm10 smoothly @1.4, 1 core than the nexus with 4 cores should run double as smooth while at 700mhz if you follow me. So if you got a nexus, rooted it and put it at max 700mhz since its underclocked it shouldn't overheat.

Correct me if I'm wrong
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Could the reason for lower benchies just be 'Jellybean' ?

On my evo3d i get much lower scores than i do with ICS. How are the gs3/onex benching on JB ?
[Nexus 4 General] jader13254:
Xperia arc S ICS: 4500

Xperia arc S JB: 5300

Antutu =)
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
A question: if you make two woman pregnant, can you expect the child in 4.5 months? :)

On the serious note: not everything can be evenly split into two/three/four independent tasks.

Depending on the nature of things which "are stopping the show", they either can be splitted among CPU's or not. If not (most of the things are sequential, like that child example), then just ONE CPU will do all the work and other 3 will be just mostly sitting there doing nothing.

Ok, 1 additional core can shield the "worker" core from various unexpected "distractions" like checking the mails at inappropriate moment (which do affect the smoothness), that's why dualcore really helps. But beyond that.....
[Nexus 4 General] iTeeXDA:
I don't think any one has posted this benchmark yet. If someone has, my apologies.

The Nexus 4 lasts less on 3G than the iPhone 5 on LTE. And not by much, by twice as much.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
They have. But I just noticed that iPhone 5 using LTE lasted much longer than no LTE? Can someone explain how?
[Nexus 4 General] :
You do know its running pre-release un-optimized software right?

This thread is full of FAIL
[Nexus 4 General] FISKER_Q:
I have, but until Anandtech properly explains their benchmarks i'm taking them with a grain of salt for the moment.

Hopefully they'll offer up a proper explanation soon, but i fear that time has come and gone for me.
[Nexus 4 General] aceo07:
LTE can get data faster, so after processing the data the cpu can go back to idle. On a slower connection, the cpu is awake for longer.

If you have T-Mobile HSPA+, the phone supports up to 42Mbps. In all the tests, they don't test w/ T-Mobile so we don't get to see how that compares in the benchmarks. They usually have AT&T.

In one test by @tnkgrl, http://twitpic.com/bafjzw, downloads on T-Mobile are pretty fast.
[Nexus 4 General] VikramW8:
I'm on PAC man ROM v23 and trinity kernel 133 and I score only 5480 in quadrant but I used to score pretty close to 8000 when I was on Official Cyanogenmod 10.1??? Why is the score so low...?? It didn't bother me much as both the ROMs are smooth enough but the phone hearts up quite a bit on PAC man
[Nexus 4 General] VikramW8:
How did you do it?? Even I'm on PSX 4.1 with Neo-005-ANYI got 23495 in antutu with fsync on. How did you scale gpu upto 533 and whats removing fps cap?
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
Neo 004 could go up to 533 GPU. Neo 005 only goes up to 487.

Add this line to your build.prop to remove the FPS cap.

debug.egl.swapinterval=0

This will cause tearing of the screen but will boost your Quadrant scores and Antutu by a bit.
[Nexus 4 General] VikramW8:
Thanks.. By the way can you please tell me which kernel control app to use with neo.. I'm currently using trickster MOD.:o
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
Using the same :)

New record with Neo 005

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[Nexus 4 General] Vortex1969:
This is without removing fps cap. Pure ROM and Purified Kernel.

Pure Speed under the hood PSX
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
No way your scoring 27000 without removing fps cap.
[Nexus 4 General] Vortex1969:
Yes it is without fsp cap and it took me a lot of tweaking to get that score. But anyway its just a score and fun for me so no big deal. Just thought I would share. I don't look at benchmarking like I pissing contest or that I am better. I just do it for fun.

Pure Speed under the hood PSX
[Nexus 4 General] Sturdy_99:
can u share the tweaks u used...plz:good:
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Is it possible to get the dalvik gs4 files working on odexed yet?

edit, nvm, i read kszaq earlier post about odexed and see why it don't work.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
I think PSX ROM includes them? Doesn't it?

Sent from my Gnex VZW @1.5 GHz on Stock 4.3
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Yes, they are added during the build. Just the Dalvik portion as I think the Bionic are a step back from what we have.
[Nexus 4 General] atxbang56:
I just did that on PSX v4.1 and Neo v006 [MENTION=3385213]1944[/MENTION]Mhz (fps unlocked) :

BANGed from my God Damned CoOl Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
Anyone got some good tips to cool my device down? It's kinda hot here right now so I am not able to perform a bench above 1,8 Ghz.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
directly in front of an air conditioning vent set to high :)
[Nexus 4 General] THEBANDIT420:
Thanks but I tried this and setting the governor to performance and all cores on and it still lags. I thinks its some kind of bug in neo (as others have reported it too) and not a performance issue. In the meantime I'll just use hellcore kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
performance governor is terrible. use ondemand or interactive, and set the cpu speed to be the same speed high and low.
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
Could you tell us your settings? What kind of Governor and Fsync/thermal throttle off and stuff?
[Nexus 4 General] atxbang56:
do like me : try different settings and see what's better for your own phone...

BANGed from my God Damned CoOl Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] THEBANDIT420:
Trust me I have tried every governor / frequency / hotplug/ IO setting that neo allows and I still get lag (despite smashing benchmarks) in asphalt 8, GTA vice city and MC4 but don't in CPU heavy, GPU light games like tropical stormfront.
[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
Which version you using? I see gpu stay at min since v5 only perf gov is good on v6. The power down gpu on idle for power saving has problem but dont have time to rebuild it. May be tmr or monday. :p
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Try these ondemand settings, kernel allowing.

#!/system/bin/sh

echo "30" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/down_differential;

echo "1512000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sync_freq;

echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold;

echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold_any_cpu_load;

echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold_multi_core;

Smooths everything out for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I noticed 128 is being used when playing games, I switched to trickster while Asphalt 8 was open and saw 128(I had max at 400) for GPU and the cores were between 192-1.3ghz. Also I tried using 2 & 4 cores, though 4 cores made less bearable.
[Nexus 4 General] arnes_king:
What are do to prevent "red light of death" ? When I overclock more of 1.5 Ghz I get "red light of death" and must reconenct battery to fix it.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
it all depends how your phone was put together. i dont get rlod, not even at 1944mhz. while others, like your phone, get it at much lower speeds. id say its a lg quality control issue. i do nothing to prevent rlod, but do everything to get it(but i dont). rlod happens when your phone thinks that its gone to 0% battery left or below. the key phrase here is that your phone thinks it happened, even when theres battery left.
[Nexus 4 General] VikramW8:
How is this??!!!!! I can't even get close!!!! :crying::(:crying:

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Hey I don't get Red light of death but when I was benchmarking on antutu testing my system stability at 1836 locked and 533 gpu the phone freezed and turned off and wouldn't turn on but when I connected it to my charger it turned on with the charging animation. And then I powered on the phone and it showed 0% battery whereas it should have been somewhere in between 80-85. So I restarted the phone while still charging it and then it showed 87%.. Can you please explain me this phenomenon?
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
Rom Vanir

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] a g bell:
Trinity +psx at1836 fsync on fps not unlocked lm happy:D
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
^^^ is that applyon?

Sent from my Nexus 4 [NEO [MENTION=4149147]1.8[/MENTION]36 GHz] on [PSX v4.1 4.3]
[Nexus 4 General] a g bell:
Yes sir
[Nexus 4 General] vlatkonexus4:
My Nexus 4

Nexus 4 16gb rooted

Current rom: CM 10.2 nightly unofficial 01.09.2013

Current kernel:Purified r153
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Finally gave Hells kernel a spin on vanir.

1.5ghz+400 GPU.
[Nexus 4 General] davidbar93:
Pure stock ,Google factory device.
[Nexus 4 General] karishnu:
Had to set the thermal throttling point to 90 degrees

Press the thanks button if you feel I have helped you! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Stormblessed:
Here i am, 1836 Neo 007 + psx. fsync on no fps unlock...
[Nexus 4 General] infernum:
I just got my new nexus 4. And do not give more than 15,000 points in AnTuTu
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Thats about right for stock rom/stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
time to root and modify your device :p
[Nexus 4 General] Droyyd:
No, bathe it in liquid nitrogen. =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQVqUoAi1Lc

Oh yeah =)
[Nexus 4 General] -JFK-:
Give us a little more,.

Rom, kernel...?
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
Fps unlimited ?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] THEBANDIT420:
Not bad for stock frequencies.I'm using PureSpeed eXperiment 4.1 + hellscore b36 with the cpu @1.51 ghz and GPU @ 400 MHz also not using fps unlocked or any of that jazz.
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Rooted, with stock Rom, what settings at Franco kernel can help with better scores?

Unleashed by my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] tiru.adi13:
Try the bionic and dalvik patch posted in this thread. Cool it down completely (like it doesn't feel hot at all in your hand) and run the benchmark. Messing with settings might not be really necessary, with the default Franco settings I get around 20500-21000. Hope I helped :)

EDIT: And are you running 4.2 or 4.3? 4.3 scores much better than 4.2.2.....

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Still with 4.2.2 and my best score is 18.900 by just reducing High load threshold at 60 and increasing online cores on touch input at 4.

These patches are zip to be flashed or some scripts?
[Nexus 4 General] arnes_king:
Try matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
The patch is for 4.3 deodexed ROMs. Also note that people have stated on this thread that even then it doesn't work on certain 4.3 roms, which means you might have to try and install only the dalvik part of the patch.
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Rom: PA 3.99

Kernel: Trinity Apollyon

1836/1836

Nope.
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
link for the trinity Apollyon ?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44958908&postcount=21914
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
thank you, have set the minimum CPU frequency to 1836 MHz ?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
1836 works great on my phone, however it gives some people problems.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
im getting better scores on the new antutu with tf4h [MENTION=827116]172[/MENTION]8/1728 than apollyan [MENTION=2194886]183[/MENTION]6/1836. with tf4h [MENTION=827116]172[/MENTION]8/1728 im getting 24200-24600.
[Nexus 4 General] RASTAVIPER:
Installed 4.3 over 4.2.2 and now I am getting 14300....

Is something not working right with Franco 182 kernel?

Unleashed by my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
Rom Carbon Beast + Neo Kernel 008 Cpu 1,7ghz

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] xperimentul:
1.PSX v4.1 with stock kernel.

Min/Max- 1.5ghz

Governor- ondemand

2. Everything the same except for the governor.

Governor- interactive

3. Governor- performance
[Nexus 4 General] THEBANDIT420:
PSX and Ultimate hell core kernel with the CPU @ 1.7 and GPU at 487 mhz this is the highest I have ever scored. Also not 'hacks' such as fps unlocked used

Edit: I'm unable to post the image so on antutu I scored 24109
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
excellent result , ultimate hell core allows overclocking ?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
My score on Neo-009

CPU 1728, GPU 487, no unlock fps

:D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
wow great ;) can not wait to flash the Neo 009 :D

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] Stormblessed:
Hi master of the kernel :D, can you try out at 1836?

With ur neo 007 i score this way, i've scored more (i mean 200, 230 points more) with same config without any kind of unlock but no screenshot. Anyway this is a master kernel! Nice to see you post ur own screenshot and notice ur passion for Bench...
[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
More than you a bit

Edit: Im junior dev, not master :p
[Nexus 4 General] Stormblessed:
I'm also young, not important, ur doing a great job... Aniway if ur a bit up i will have to flash 008 this evening :P Nice 'L' avatar... Good luck for next release i will w8 for upcoming news.. cheers mate!
[Nexus 4 General] ryk k:
Rom that you use? I with Neo 009 1.7 ghz cpu and gpu 487 and Rom Carbon Beast I can not do more than this :(

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] ramgear:
Still on PSX 4.1

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Im not young, not old. 30 yrs d. :beer: