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[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
I'm honestly more concerned about the price of replacement glass back. With the price of most phones outright I usually rely on selling what I currently have to fund my addiction for changing phones so often. I also don't like selling phones that are damaged and will usually go out of my way to at least recommend a cheap place for replacement parts if the buyer doesn't like any scuffs or scratches. I hope the price of the backs is about the same as the iPhone 4 backs which are only around $25 to $30 max.
[Nexus 4 General] Initial_G:
LG

I too was a bit skeptical about this phone due to the fact it is made by LG, but after reading the first looks and early reviews of this phone; The nexus 4 looks very promising. I am hoping it will be an upgrade from the technology and build quality of the galaxy s3!
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
Buy skinomi skin or stick on tempered glass. Or a case. Otherwise, don't drop it.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
It really sounds like LG stepped their game up in terms of design and build quality with the Optimus G/Nexus 4 so I wouldn't hold their past too strongly against them. Sounds like they're trying to turn a new leaf in terms of industrial quality.

I was skeptical at first but this is why I'm willing to give them a chance here. I didn't think much of Samsung as a phone manufacturer until the Galaxy S. I'd like to see this as well as the Optimus G be a win for LG and turn them into a relevant competitor in the Android field. It shouldn't only be HTC/Samsung (well, really just Samsung) eating.

Biggest thing LG can do from here is fix their rep in terms of software updates. Again, Samsung used to be the worst at this and got destroyed for it by users. They have largely been able to redeem themselves and it's paid off for them. Hope LG takes it as a lesson.
[Nexus 4 General] Jamal Ahmed:
i thought the perfect combo was

LG hardware

and

Google software :)

because samsung build quality is totally meh!

try HTC? their phone are beautiful....but ive bever heard much about their build quality...

i know that LG atleast woulsnt compronise in hardware :)
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
true but I think google wanted to be fair and give LG(a major android OEM) a nexus cause so far it only has been htc and Samsung. Motorola isn't a big deal since its owned by google now.
[Nexus 4 General] polar2792:
Got an og evo 4g from HTC build quality is great and broke the screen in 2 years and its met concrete a few times. Plastic ring around it isn't so great tho.
[Nexus 4 General] partylikeaninjastar:
I disagree. Nexus is kind of like the face of Android. It is THE Google phone. If the Nexus 4 does bad, it will make Android look bad, as this one (along with the 7 and 10) and trying to get the Nexus name out there.

Now, as for LG, i agree with what everyone else says. LG has GREAT hardware, but lacks on the software support. I'm on my 5th LG phone because I've always been satisfied with the (two dumb phones, three smartphones). However, my current phone has been a slight disappointment, but, as also mentioned, Nvidia is partial to blame.

In any case, my plan was to buy a $350 Galaxy Nexus, but now that I can't, I'm going to buy a $350 Nexus 4 and be an LG owner for the sixth time in a row.
[Nexus 4 General] XxStatiX:
Google wouldn't want to make Android look bad! True!

LG has good hardware though.Better than Samsung man!

Though i really wanted an Xperia Nexus :o (don't kill me) :p
[Nexus 4 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
+1 on all especially xperia nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] wurzelsepp3:
-1

Why does everyone want a Xperia Nexus? Sony always uses outdated SoCs and has the worst build quality of all popular Android OEMs.
[Nexus 4 General] Tomatoes8:
I am quite disappointed in humanity if they can't see that Samsung plastic with a magnesium skeleton is totally solid. They are actually quite brilliantly designed and responsible for making the handsets slim, strong, and light enough to incorporate all the goodies like NFC, wireless charging, MicroSD etc. all without being fat like the HTC 8x and Nokia Lumia 920.

It is a shame that so many people can't see this.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
This LG should be good to go as a Nexus member!
[Nexus 4 General] mrbkkt1:
Here is a story about LG.

8 years ago, I bought a 37" flat screen TV from them@ about $2600 (was cheap back then) it finally died at year 6, power control board went out. I was willing to just fix the PCB, but no parts were available. I contacted LG, and after a few emails, they gave me a pro-rated refund of $300 based off of the wholesale price (I no longer had my receipt, and circuit city was no longer in business). Needless to say, I only had to pay a little more for a brand new LED TV.

This is the abbreviated version, but needless to say, I am very impressed with LG customer service.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Always...?

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-4899.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx-4959.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_v-4958.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tl-5015.php
[Nexus 4 General] g8who:
I haven't had direct experience with a LG phone but a good friend of mine who is an assistant manger at an electronics store has told me the last 2-3 years the two brands of phones with the least number of repairs have been LG and Nokia. And the brand with the most (at least at his store) are Samsungs. Let's hope the N4 continues the trend.
[Nexus 4 General] rtimoff:
I know people who ownes Gold Star(LG) microwave about 20 years, and its works for now!:D
[Nexus 4 General] pinkman1:
i sure they are using same material :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
That could just be a result of greater sales for Samsung, not necessarily a greater percentage of sold units needing repairs. The only LG phone I've had was the Dare, way back when lol, but damned if that thing wasn't a beast. My brother had one too, dropped it off a horse, which then kicked it into a stream, and it only lost touch responsiveness on half the screen, which you could temporarily fix by torquing the whole phone. Shrug, I'm going to reserve judgment till I have one in hand, and just treat it like I care about it even if it's rock solid.
[Nexus 4 General] Spitfire:
I can say that my LG G2X feels a lot more sturdy/solid than my SGSII. I haven't had problems with either of them.
[Nexus 4 General] thegregulator:
I had the LG Optimus 3D. The hardware was decent. The phone was fat but felt well built. The camera was quite pathetic (but it also was a gimmick). The battery life was trash. But, like many others have said, the software was disgusting. It was truly horrific.

I know on the software front everything will be great on the Nexus 4. I don't particularly care about the camera. I have a DSLR if I want to take nice photos and pretty well every 8 mp shooter on a 2012 high end phone is more than capable as a point and shoot. I don't even really care about the lack of expandable storage. My biggest concern is how will the battery life be. Outside of the 4X and Optimus G, battery life on every LG smartphone has been scary bad. I just hope I can get a day with moderate usage, meaning 4.5-5 hours of screen time.
[Nexus 4 General] christophicer:
My nitro HD was nice as hell spec wise. Running cm10 made it a lot nicer because lg software was horrid. Build quality I was very happy with but battery life with that nice big LCD screen was very very bad unless it was u/c running at 10 % brightness. If you were outside and had full brightness u could do a countdown to dead phone.
[Nexus 4 General] XxStatiX:
Hahaha^

We'll just wait for the phone to release to know how LG has done this time :o
[Nexus 4 General] ryanbmw51:
Longest running thread I ever started! Wow.

Thanks for all the feedback. With all the reviews and unboxibgs I've seen it is clear that this device is a must have. Cant wait to get my hands on it.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
LG hardware cannot be trusted, that was the only point stopping me from buying that phone, but nevertheless the phone has also been made by google, and i am pretty sure that google wont give ****ty hardware. The price is a steal 349$ wow ! Any one who doesnt require LTE like myself, should go for the phone blindfolded. Its in some ways at par with the s3 and even better in terms of performance. Great phone :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] smaghe:
Man relax !

tape is really a common thing in electronics. I'm 100% sure it will withstand the lifetime of the device.

As for the spring connections, I've been through many when opening devices and it's a reliable system, particularly if the backplate is rigid (glass).

IMO, the guy is just posting controversial stuff in order for his website to get a little drive.

Plus, does anyone here really believe Google would be dashing the nexus line off ? IMO this new nexus line is the core of their new strategy.

They now clearly want the nexus line to become more mainstream. So there is absolutely no reason why they would just bring ****ty hardware.

Cost reduction ? Oh please, look at the specs... They won't just put tape in a device in order to achieve economies of scale ...

Finally, there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding around how devices are created. Devices are not drawn on a piece of paper, but rather 3D designed on

softs like CATIA, which take into account thousands of parameters, like thermal heating, mechanical and acoustical constraints. They are even able to calculate

deformations caused by impacts. So don't worry, if there are design flaws, it'd be volontary. And it isn't what google wants.

Volontary design flaws ? Oh, yeah I mean planned obsolescence.
[Nexus 4 General] neotekz:
Those of you that owned both Samsung and LG phones, how do their radios stack up in terms of reception? I have a gsm Galaxy Nexus and was wondering if the reception is going to be better with the nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] everett_psycho:
The radio on my o2x is alright, I get reception even in the basement of our house where my girlfriends sgs2 struggles (that may be due to networks though). Its the same old story though, i get good reception but when I lose it and then get it back the bad software takes a while to sort it out properly.

As several people have said I've never had an issue with lg or their build quality, the one time I had a hardware failure was on my TV and they came out fast and fixed it up, everything else has been fine. But software wise I've had a few problems, one of our TV's had a PVR function and I've had lg out at least twice to update the firmware, our blu ray player has needed a couple of updates to sort the mkv playback out. The core functions worked so I could forgive these flaws but the o2x has been harder to forgive as simple things haven't worked properly, with Google taking them under their wing for this the software should be as good ad they come.
[Nexus 4 General] Baladeen:
My galaxy nexus had to have the USB plug repaired in less then 6 month in
[Nexus 4 General] Serious_Beans:
My g2x felt like a really solid phone. Only lg I've owned but it was great. None if the issues many complained about so I had a good experience with lg and I'm hoping to have a great experience with an lg nexus :D
[Nexus 4 General] justkiddinghere:
I will wait and see feedback here about device then will buy :P
[Nexus 4 General] entropism:
Man, the Thrill was just godawful. I went through 3 in 2 weeks before I finally got a refund from Amazon.

It overheated so bad that:

The phone would reboot if used while charging

The back metal piece singed my finger

The black adhesive around the underside of the screen melted and dripped down the LCD

Honestly, I'm REALLY nervous about the N4...
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
Lg... Meh.. Xperia Nexus would have been awsome or even htc.. samsung is just cheap plasticky horrible design looking thing
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
No!! Don't say it! D:

Ah crap, hide, quick, before the fanboys jump you! :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
thanks for the tip lol :)

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Thanks for the tip
[Nexus 4 General] ferris2375:
I think it's funny how some of you will call people Apple or Samsung fan boys, but put some blind faith in Google like they can do no wrong. I got news for you, just because this phone has Google stamped on it that doesn't mean it will be a quality device. The Asus made Nexus 7 is a POS and full of quality control issues and that's a Nexus device with Google backing. So stop just assuming that just because Google is behind this that it will be some standard in quality.
[Nexus 4 General] ASavva:
You my friend are a dreamer. The nexus 7 received tablet of the year... But according to you it's a POS?

Somebody has their facts wrong. Screen lift on 1/10000 devices seems okay to me. I have 3 nexus 7 devices in my family (all pre order) and not a single issue.
[Nexus 4 General] riko540:
I have owned 3 LG phones and never had a problem with any of them. The first one the battery crapped after 5 years and wouldn't charge. The second phone was a freebee that no matter what happened to it, it wouldn't die. In fact it still works today even after being dropped down three flights of stairs and dropped into a toilet a few times. My last LG phone was the Dare and that still works too even after being dropped from 2 stories. Lol

Sent from my ADR6300
[Nexus 4 General] ashirviskas:
I thought i was the phones nightmare.. (none of them functioned normally more than two years: SE J210i - sound just dissapeared but now it can play music only VERY VERY sileently :D. Then k810i - hard dropped few times, camera now shows everything in green, you have to press screen to use camera (although picture looks epic in green :silly:) , 2, 3, 5, 1, 6 buttons are working very bad, you can press them only when you push phone's sides very hard :D i used phone like this for about half a year (camera was like that for 2 years, 3 button didn't functioned well for 1,5 years) . Next: Nokia n95 8Gb, dropped to toilet - 8Gb dissapeared (virtual memory card) and screen is f*cked up. LG P500 O1 -hard bricked few times (until service got annoyed by me and burned the pcb :D) But these are not my all phones, because i just don't remeber other phone models :D I also had at least 5 more nokias, siemens c45, c35, a35...))
[Nexus 4 General] balabe87:
I'm sure that LG is brilliant on their hardware part. Owning their Optimus black more than a year without any issues. Not even a single hardware fault. In nexus's case, software will be controlled by Google. Surely It wud be a great combo.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I am so tired of hearing about the poor quality of LG products. This is really exaggerated because of this echo chamber. When any company puts out many thousands of units a few will have problems. The sweatshops that build the other products are no better.. Let's face it.

LG is a highly capable and successful company. In addition Google designers and engineers played a major part in this project.

I am sure a few units will have issues and that will be blown out of proportion but the last thing I would worry about is LG build quality.. In this day and age it is not that hard and these phones ideally only have to last between a year to maybe 3 at most. I do not it see that as a problem.

If anyone is already planning on dropping it than buy a decent case..

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I am a little confused by your point or what it is but you did say you dropped it. You can't fault build quality for something you dropped.. I am not sure though if that is what you are saying.. lol
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
All i am fearing to buy this device is about the screen....

As i am from galaxy s3....everyone saying that it doesn't have wow factor like s3 screen...and it is far difficult to read under sunlight... Ofcourse it has natural colors but with low brightness and low contrast ratio....

Already i am disappointed with galaxy s3 screen...i dont like the low brightness of that screen in s3 and pixelated text ...and how can i bear even more decreasing of brightness and quality as well as .. even though iphone screen is small it is far superior in brightness, saturation, color and sharpness than nexus 4 .. ...:eek::(:thumbdown:

Same In camera aspect...iphone and s3 has a better sensor than nexus 4.... But camera is a not big deal for me...
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Please do some research. This screen is a lot brighter than the S3 screen. AMOLED screens are pretty much the dimmest screens on the market, and consume twice the power of comparable screens. The only thing they're good it is black levels (and obviously the resulting contrast ratios). I have no idea how people can be ignorant enough to believe that an LCD would be dimmer than an AMOLED. Do some damn research before assuming. This isn't the 1800s where everything is based on rumors. There is plenty of factual information online, some of which has even been posted on this forum :rolleyes:

As for pixelation, I still find it mind boggling that the Pentile is even counted by the number of a the most frequent subpixel type (green, for example). I think that all phones should be counted by the total number of subpixels. By that calculation, you get:

Nexus 4: (768*3)*(1280*3) = 8 847 360 Subpixels

Galaxy S3: (720+720+360)*(1280+1280+640) = 5 760 000 Subpixels

That means that the Galaxy S3 has (5 760 000/8 847 360 = 0.651) 65.1% of the subpixels that the Nexus 4 has...all with a slightly bigger screen (less pixel density).

- Everything will look MUCH sharper than that Samsung garbage.
[Nexus 4 General] gie62001:
^^ thank you. Agree with you.

All below to the post above:

Seriously i dont know its either some people can't read, don't know where to look for information, or just try to ignore what they read?

How can nexus 4 screen be less superior than S3 or iPhone 4, please read the spec sheets about the screens, resolution, density, black levels, etc... or you just woke up one day and decided to assume things. If you do this way so do it properly and give some reference sources where people could have a look what you are talking about.
[Nexus 4 General] lnfound:
To continue in the screen, go look at the optimus that should be stocked at most ATT now, it's stunning and really looks like it's painted onto the glass. Looking at it from an angle you can't see any depression between top and screen. Great colors, brightness, and all.

Regarding sunlight,I can't think of any screen you can read in direct, bright, sunlight. Best bet is anti glare cover and maybe a Lumia as they pushed the screen add being able to see in sunlight.
[Nexus 4 General] AznDud333:
you really dont know what you're talking about..gs3 goes up to 300nits..nexus 4 goes up to 470

gs 3 might have infinite contrast, but n4 isnt shabby either..it has well over 1300 contrast ratio(max nits/minimum) i think thats pretty great...

your math is wrong

3 subpixels per pixel= total pixels*3, which is 1280*768*3, your math multiplied it by 3 twice, making the sum 3 times larger.
[Nexus 4 General] InvalidUsername:
Huge oversight on my part. Thanks for correcting that, but either way, the point is valid, though to a lesser extent.
[Nexus 4 General] slannmage:
I've seen the GS3 in real life and the screen looks beautiful.

It has come to the point now where you look at them all and they're subtle differences between them but all look great. So I don't see how you can call any modern screen on these high end smart phones, garbage. If you like rich colours and the blackest blacks with no annoying backlight then OLED is the best option and they always have the best viewing angles.

Even the Nexus 4 against the the GS3 you notice the blacks are still slightly grey.
[Nexus 4 General] Forevandroid:
I hope there isn't any clouding.
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Maybe because Samsung sells more phones than lg and nokia combined? Lol.. Who buys nokia phones recently? They are finally stepping it up with the windows 8.
[Nexus 4 General] X 0 N 0 D E:
Twitter says...

On Twitter people are saying the screen colours are washed out. What do you guys think...?
[Nexus 4 General] xzr3b0rnzx:
i say f**k them :p
[Nexus 4 General] jacklebott:
I say wait 'til you see it in person. Many people have stated the screen is amazing and vibrant, many others have said it's dull and washed out. Only you can see for yourself to know for sure
[Nexus 4 General] DforDesign:
Are you guys worried about bezel quality? I mean it's plastic and from my ****ty sgs2 experience with it I'm a bit worried.

How about you? Have you seen some info about its quality?
[Nexus 4 General] X 0 N 0 D E:
before I answer that, I hope u guys know the Verge dropped it and it developed a crack...

but otherwise, not really...It looks solid. At least looks, unlike Samscum, that just looks cheap no matter what it does.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
i encourage all those worried about the glass back and the bezel to get a case. dont worry, im getting one :)
[Nexus 4 General] Xalies:
It is quite possible it does cost around this for LG to make the handset ... and after Google get the phone it isn't like they have to worry about paying OS licensing (or GAPPS in Androids case) and on top they have their Play store, which I'm sure is a huge cash cow so it does pay to get these out to the masses
[Nexus 4 General] EvoYas:
Ok, lets go back a little and look into some amazing history first.

Why can't Google stick with one company to build their phones? Is Google stupid, evil or just too nice?

Yes, they are too nice and it works well both ways, well three ways(as we get a good phone out of this every year). HTC wasnt doing great until Nexus One arrived and we became the fans of their build quality and that 1Ghz CPU, Google returned the favor to HTC by putting them back on the map.

Samsung was failing as their Android devices were buggy, late or no updates at all and damn did GPS sucked on Samsung devices. But worry not, Google gets Samsung to make the Nexus S and after that it was game over. Even as of now imho Sammy is the best when it comes to making high end Android devices. G Nex also went to Sammy as no other company was really strugling.

And now LG has been having a bad year so Google is here once again to save tje day and LG gets the Nexus prohect and ofcourse Google wont just okay any design and hardware. So I am pretty sure Google.made sure that this handset lives up to the Nexus name.

So to conclude the history lesson, a Nexus device is good because its pure Google and this one will put LGback on track.