yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] raz123:
User 5003006's Antutu score of 42568 is looking good.

Unfortunately, I was unable to replicate such good results. Rather, my scores turned around 23-29k.

I used those settings:

ROM/Kernel: DU_mako_6.0.1_20160401-1411.v10.0-WEEKLIES.zip

Partitions: all running ext4

Modifications (through Kernel Adiutor)

CPU: 384 (Min) - 1728 (Max); governor: ondemand/performance (tried both)

GPU: 400 (Max); governor: ondemand/performance (tried both)

IO scheduler: deadlline/noop/cfq/row (tried all four)

Fsync: disabled

If someone else is able to replicate ~42k points on Android 6.0, do let us know how!
[Nexus 4 General] matusala:
I did this and got 46k on 5.1.1 stock rom. phone was in cool environment. I did this in january. see on page 260 here.

my best result for now. this phone is not dead yet. google should have released 6.0 for nexus 4.

Stock 5.1.1 + franco kernel.

tweaks: fsync off! /data and /cashe folders are in f2fs file system, CPU governor performance (forced 4 cores active + force max speed) GPU performance (force max speed 400 MHZ)

CPU OCed to 1.7 GHZ

temp 75 degree
[Nexus 4 General] matusala:
I did it!!! Yes!!

I did 46k on 5.1.1 now I did 42k on Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow on my Nexus 4.

here is a pic:

[IMG="nexus4"]http://www.picz.ge/img/s3/1606/10/c/c66bdff95335.png[/IMG]

now settings:

chroma Rom 6.0.1 latest 06/09/2016 build

Taurus kernel R43

kernel auditor:

CPU 1728 MHZ (performance it fores max speed)

GPU 487 MHZ (performance)

Tmp limit 76 C

Fsync off.

I can easily replicate my previous result (46k in 5.1.1) in this 6.0.1 by making /Data /cache partitions F2FS.
[Nexus 4 General] ale29-09:
PA6.0, everything stock except theme.
[Nexus 4 General] matusala:
Very low antutu score. I think PA is not that good yet.

here is my geekbench score with Cyanogenmod 13 latest nightly + hellspawn kernel 1.73 GHZ
[Nexus 4 General] Rock-86:
Nexus 4, my own Android 6.0.1 clean AOSP ROM (I made ROM for my needs). All kernel settings are same as on the stock ROM (default governor = Ondemand, default I/O shedeler = NOOP). All Kernel patches from Flo are included. I compiled Kernel with toolchain=arm-linux-androideabi-4.9 from the latest version of Android NDK toolset.

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
This. I'm fed up of "benchmarks mean nothing, phone is so smooth" posts. They should stay out of the thread if they cannot understand why we're curious to find out what the issue may be.

Maybe 4.1, maybe the newer version Linux kernel (3.4 something I think). This may sound crazy, but would it be possible to cook a 4.1 ROM for the N4? Just so we can confirm if it's an issue with something specific to 4.2.

Also, if you look at the breakdown of Quadrant score, it's apparent that it's the CPU that's scoring less than it should. Linpack too. So probably nothing to do with RAM.
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
The explanation is well known long ago, it's very low temp when N4 starts throttling. It's the one and and only reason of low scores
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Dude, no offence but i dont think your right ... i ran Antutu 3 times in a row and it reached a temp of 30.6 degrees... The gpu scores great in antutu.. like 8000-9000 its the ram that scores 1000 points lower than the Optimus G and Droid DNA. also Cpu spy tells me that it stayed at 1.5ghz through out the test

so... if my device is not geting over 31 ... 1 or 2 isnt happening :

1) when it reaches 37 degrees you lower the cpu to 1.29 ghz (default 1.51 GHz) and the GPU at 325MHz (default 400mhz)

2) when you go over 39 degrees is lowered to 1.1 ghz cpu and gpu to 200 mhz

However it is interesting the optimus G settings are higher

1) when it reaches 43 degrees is lowered to 1.29 ghz cpu and gpu to 325MHz

2) when you go over 45 degrees is lowered to 1.1 ghz cpu and gpu to 200 mhz
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
I haven't seen that breakdown before, so thanks! It's interesting that at only 37degrees it starts to throttle! That could explain it all...

Now we just need a kernel that raises the trigger limit, see if the benchmarks improve and that would confirm the hypothesis.

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AH, and there's the spanner in the works :P

Perhaps your temperature readings were spurious? Did you repeat the test and use a different temp measuring utility?

Thanks for the input! I'm interested to find out what exactly is causing these lower readings.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
yea iv used a few different temp programs . i mean atm my phone is idling at 18.5 degrees

Btw when i said it throttles at 60 that wasnt right, after reading that post , so i amended my original post, but still , mine isnt hitting 37 , even though that does seem low

i mean it is possible that it does get to 37 in the test, but when it finishes and i see the reading its already lowered, but CPU spy tells me that it did stay at 1.5ghz during the test ,
[Nexus 4 General] wurzelsepp3:
That's just not true. Only CPU scores are way lower compared to the Droid DNA or Optimus G even when the test are done in a freezer.

Linpack scores of the Nexus 4 are 1/4 of what the Optimus G scores.

It's highly unlikely that the CPU starts to throttle in an short Benchmark like Linpack but even if it did it would never explain this.

The only explanation I can think of is that the Dalvic Maschine is unoptimized on the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Yea, im definitely starting to think that the lower scores are NOT thermal throttling in these "smaller" tests, but a software issue,
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
Linpack? It's interesting. Good new linpack is in Stability Test, compare its N4 results with OG, what will that be?
[Nexus 4 General] Sottti:
Antutu 3.0.1

I've scored more than 18k in Antutu 3.0.1 in my N4.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Awesome can you post the break down of your results please
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Already done in another benchmarks thread. In multi-core mode, both OG and N4 score around 930MFLOPS. But Linpack in Stability Test is a native test, so it doesn't run in Dalvik VM. It's while running in Dalvik VM that OG single core beats N4 multi core with ease.
[Nexus 4 General] Sottti:
Here you have another one --> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/83259317/2012-11-26 21.17.13.png
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
Whys that? We should keep results concentrated in 1 thread to find it more quickly

Ok. I see. Maybe you're right. But me thinks that antutu runs only native benchs, doesn't it? Also, its 3D test is HEAVILY optimized for mali and Adrenos score typically 1/2 of mali GPUs
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
I also noticed my nexus 10 scores the very similarly in ram ... Maybe its an android 4.2 issue
[Nexus 4 General] gtg465x:
Guys, Qualcomm has proprietary Dalvik patches that improve performance with its processors. They are closed source though, so Google probably didn't use them in the spirit of being open, thus lower performance than the DNA and Optimus G.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Ah now thats interesting!
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
Which explains the Nexus 10 benchmark deficits too. EDIT: No it doesn't.

Are you sure about this? It seems to be the perfect explanation for all of this benchmarking malarkey.
[Nexus 4 General] MadFerIt2011:
Actually no it doesn't.. Nexus 10 has a Samsung processor.
[Nexus 4 General] 3dawg:
Ah, thanks for the correction, that totally slipped my mind.
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
Actually does, cause Samsung has proprietary patches that it won't give to Google and opensource 4 free.
[Nexus 4 General] MadFerIt2011:
Then why wasn't this an issue with the Nexus S? Had better performance than any of the original Galaxy S line phones, and Google has been able to push the device to it's limits (Jelly Bean had huge performance improvements).
[Nexus 4 General] nbell13:
Because the original Galaxy S line (and all of them, actually) were loaded with parasitic bloatware
[Nexus 4 General] Rick_1995:
Oh really ?
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
I think you guys are forgetting the N4 has the new kernel which obviously isn't benching as well, not to mention that 4 2 is riddled with bugs.

All the hardware is the same, they havnt cheaped-out on anything.

I expect a 4.2.1 release very very quickly as they've done with past nexus phones - and like past phones, it will bring big improvement.

You all need to chill out, same specs - it will actually perform much better than DNA due to less pixels.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
4.2.1 is out
[Nexus 4 General] Simer03:
The only change I've read in 4.2.1 is the December bug...

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Yea I re ran antutu with 4.2.1 .. No diff .. I think gtg was right I think with the dalvik optimisations
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
OK, but its not just the Nexus 4 that is running the new kernel with 4.2 and getting lower-than-expected benchmarks, isnt the Nexus 10 lower too?

If so, it shows its software.

I don't believe for 1 second that Google cheaped out, its the same hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Yea , my Nexus 10 scores 13000 ish in the new antutu, again, the Ram seems much lower than other devices around
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
Don't forged its dualcore, if it was quadcore A15 then you would probably got about 24-25kilo. My S4 dual with adreno 225 got only mere 10500 points, on ICS. Wish when I'll got JB result will magically jump to 11-12kilo :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
can anyone help me understand what a dalvik patch is? ;) thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
Can someone post some more benchmarks with the 4.2.1 update? I am really eager to find out if there are any noticeable changes.

I don't really care about antutu, I'd rather see GLbenchmark egypt HD or some JS benchmarks(sunspider, octane, browsermark or really anything anandtech uses)
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
GLbenchmark before 4.2.1 was fine, i did tests with it and it scored very well. sometimes above the iphone 5 , ... browser stuff hasnt changed
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
A java application isn't compiled for a specific hardware, it is compiled for a "virtual computer". That means that the instructions in the compiled code cannot be fed directly to the CPU on the device where you want to run it. Instead you use a piece of software(java runtime), which emulates the virtual machine on your hardware(performs instructions on your CPU which give the same results as the instructions in the java file). All normal apps on android are written in a variant of java, and the virtual computer is called dalvik. Naturally a more efficient virtual computer improves general performance greatly. A dalvik patch must be an update to the dalvik VM, which could provide the sort of improvement in benchmarks we are hoping for. It is well known that some manufacturers have been able to make significant optimizations to the dalvik VM, but they will often keep them to themselves

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That's disappointing, chrome performs much better on a GS3 than a nexus 4, so there should be plenty of room for improvements. Do you notice any changes to the thermal throttling?
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
I never really had much thermal throttling going on... Like iv said before, i dont think thermal throttling is the issue for the lowish benchs, for example i ran antutu 3 times in a row and it diddnt go about 32 degrees, also 1 one of quadrant isnt enough for it to throttle... so it has to be software casuing the lower benchs.. the phone is still smooth as!
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
thank you for the explanation. but dont you think google does make some improvements too?

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so i just got my 4.2 update on my galaxy nexus. i only did a quadrant benchmark before and after. it only scored about 200 pts less with the 4.2 update.

about 2200 to 2400.

since they always vary a little i dont think it really does have an impact on the benchmark performance. damn ;)

oh, just saw that on the gnex its still the old kernel. nvm then ;)
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
Google makes performance improvements too, but the improvements they make are mostly released as open source, so everyone has them. One example: android 2.2 brought significant improvements to the dalvik VM when it was released.
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
but thats not a bad thing, is it?

gtg465x explained that qualcomm itself has some closed source patches. why doesnt google use them in its nexus line?

maybe im completely wrong but its just my simple guess. it had been a while when i was into this stuff :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
I agree, the thermal throttling is probably not the issue in most benchmarks, but anandtech pretty much proved that it is an issue in GLBenchmark.

Try running all the tests in GLBenchmark in one run (there is a checklist with tests to choose from), anandtech got significant throttling in the last tests after doing that. You should at least see some significant temperature increases if you do that, if you can do that three times in a row and still get good results there must be something different with yours.
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Yea I think this is the test that I thought had thermal throttling . I didn't tick the triangle tests just the Egypt tests..

Even so .. Its quite a long test anyway .
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
Hell if I know what all these numbers mean but I think they're high.
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
Chrome has just been updated, and seems to improve both responsiveness and performance. Has anyone tried it?
[Nexus 4 General] djbenny1:
did no one ever try the browser benchmarks using an alternative browser like dolphin?? then comparing that with dolphin on iphone 5 for reference??
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
My sim might not work but I still get decent benchmarks Lol

It's soooo annoying to have the phone and my sim decides it doesn't want to work, now waiting for replacement sim :(

May even jump on another network for a month trial just to get a working phone lol
[Nexus 4 General] ntt1409:
Stock?? damn that's too high :good:
[Nexus 4 General] zopiclone:
I'm at 18049 on antutu right now.
[Nexus 4 General] inseconds99:
Any reason my Optimus G scores 7400 on Quadrant but every Quadrant I see from a Nexus 4 is in the 4900 range? Aren't they running the exact same hardware? Is the phone being underclocked or something?
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Yep, fully stock locked :)

And 2039 was my first geekbench run, could probably beat it. Lol

Edit: yep, ran it again -

Pmsl :)
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees3511:
This is what I got, stock.
[Nexus 4 General] Simer03:
Quadrant isn't updated for 4.2 yet

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] MadFerIt2011:
If you guys run the benchmark multiple times does it drop due to thermal throttling?

Unfortunately mine does..
[Nexus 4 General] Traxex_:
Mine drops too.

It's just normal.
[Nexus 4 General] inseconds99:
Yea I figured as much, I wasn't sure if it was a software issue or some hardware issue that was still unknown.
[Nexus 4 General] jb91:
It's "normal" for the Nexus 4. Not for any other phone.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Sorry, but that's not true.

Any CPU on the planet (including pcs) will always perform better when cool.

Did my galaxy s2 do it? - yeah

Did my one x do it? - absolutely

Did those get mentioned for it? - nope

Why?...

Because the Nexus 4 is more powerful and half the cost of the others, it's no surprise too see people trying to think up negatives.

If I bought another phone a month ago that is lower in specs and I paid double the price - I too would probably be trying to find negatives too, to justify to myself that I got the right phone.

Must be a lot of angry people out there, tough! :)
[Nexus 4 General] inseconds99:
I just got my nexus 4 and when I ran the new antutu I got low 14009 score and the weird thing about the site was it is reading my screen as 768x1184 instead of 768x1280 which everyone else's says. I haven't seen anyone mention besides me. Yes I rebooted and all apps were closed. Also my quadrant score was 4200. Am I missing something or is my phone running slow?
[Nexus 4 General] inseconds99:
Anyone?
[Nexus 4 General] ashirviskas:
It was probably because of software buttons ;)
[Nexus 4 General] inseconds99:
No not that cause i'm comparing it to other who have uploaded their score on antutu and they show the correct screen resolution. I hope there is no issue with my device!!
[Nexus 4 General] Lownita:
Mine shows the same res on antutu, but has 18200 score.
[Nexus 4 General] droyd4life:
Antutu

18058 With Franco Kernel r14 and CM 10.1 Nightly

Nenamark 2

59.5 FPS With Franco Kernel r14 and CM 10.1 Nightly

Dead Trigger, Riptide GP, GTA 3, Temple Run, Whale Trail and Osmos HD all run at 60 FPS, GTA 3 and Dead Trigger seem to run inbetween 30-45 FPS (still super smooth, my Nexus 7 performs a little worse on GTA 3, maybe around 25 FPS)

I've noticed people are complaining about benchmarks... Stock, the Nexus 4 is getting higher than 99% of all other phones in Antutu, and the GPU blows everything out of the water. The only complaint I have would be Quadrant. There's also some issues with battery life, I believe that in a few months the Nexus 4 is going to be destroying everything when developers figure out how to optimize software for the Nexus 4's hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] thos25:
Mine shows same resolution. I think it is okay though.

Here are a few of my scores.
[Nexus 4 General] :
It shows that resolution cause of the virtual buttons which take up 96 pixels hence its 1184
[Nexus 4 General] SNNTEC:
nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3 benchmark video

Sorry about the bad camera quality.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ldkyxHnYk
[Nexus 4 General] fiercepersian13:
Thank you all for the benchmarks, and this really helps me with my decision making!
[Nexus 4 General] itpromike:
How does the GPU compare to the iPhone 5? Any idea?
[Nexus 4 General] Flyin18T:
Maybe if the price of each device was listed it might expedite your decision. ;)

Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G
[Nexus 4 General] itpromike:
I don't see the N4 on there but I found this though. Too bad I can't keep it in a freezer ;) thanks!

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[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
That screenshot you've posted contains results of a pre-release Nexus 4 running on pre-release version of Android.

Here's the results from my phone. The second result is what your screenshot compares.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
It's the exact same CPU & GPU as the optimus G

And it shows its more powerful than the iPhone 5 - which was his question.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Just checked it on mine, I actually get 30fps, not 29 that the optimus G got in this screenshot.

Either way, it shows our GPU to be better than the iPhone 5.

And this was the question that was asked.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Cheated with the freezer but with Trinity kernel on rasbean...
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
There's a trinity kernel ? where

btw i got 19080 with radomblame's kernel.. no freezer
[Nexus 4 General] DangKid:
Just ran an antutu test, loads better than my s2.

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[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
Quick question. Anyone got fpsmeter to work ?
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Why is the S4 Pro so close to A9 devices in terms of scores if the S4 is closer to an A15 than A9? Technically speaking, a single Krait should be twice as fast as a single A9.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Its custom architecture based off a15 not exactly a15. It would be much faster if it didn't have heat issues. Most of these people are getting these scores while throttled. To me it looks like there's not enough space between the processor and the battery out lack odd thermal barrier. The proc can definitely take more heart than the battery. Thought I read that the battery getting hot was causing the processor to throttle. Don't know if that is true or not.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Hmm Qualcomm needs to stop with these loose interpretations of the original architecture. Their designs always end up being behind the competition. (Anyone who has used their dual S3 junk will understand)
[Nexus 4 General] DeathChill:
The iPhone 5 GPU is roughly 2x faster in almost every test, except Egypt HD. Very odd that people would link to the only test where the Nexus 4 outperformed the iPhone as proof that it's faster.

Check out Anandtech's review of the Nexus 4 for a complete GPU benchmark suite.
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
Here my bench mark score with stock rooted nexus4

Here my galaxy s3's pure stock but themed...v4.1.1
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
rubbish, triangle tests and browser mark tests count for crap, the proper gpu benchmarks show the adreno 320 doing really well even though running a higher res

.. plus anandtech seemed to have a bad nexus 4... many of us in these forums are benching way faster than anandtech showed
[Nexus 4 General] DeathChill:
Just curious, but what are the proper benchmarks for the GPU? The only benchmarks that I know of are from GLBenchmark and the iPhone 5 beats the Nexus 4 in every test by a large margin, excluding Egypt HD, where the Nexus 4 beats the 5 ever so slightly (when in a freezer while running the full suite).
[Nexus 4 General] Nooby Arc S User:
You put your brand new nexus 4 in the freezer? So I'm guessing you got antutu ready then put it in and started, then as soon as test finished you took it out? Smart. :good:

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Someone needs to be a complete troll and take apart a android phone and hook up its motherboard, hard drive etc to a gaming computer's CPU and GPU. Then do heaps of android benchmarks and say its a new phone under testing by HTC or something :D
[Nexus 4 General] doope:
Hello everyone

Hoping to add my share

But not in freezer ;)

Rom: pa 2.99 beta 8

Kernel: trinity

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
I don't know if I buy cross platform benchmarking. I wish they would release the detailed specs of both GPU's. The nexus 4 DOES run at a higher resolution though. Isn't there more benchmarks that both platforms can run?
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
The proper is GLBenchmark HD in offscreen mode, and Relative Benchmark

They show true GPU performance in modern games, not like Antutu 3Drating which is Mali-optimized

Well iphone5 outperforms only in onscreen modes cause its 1136x640 pixels screen, it's 50% of nexus4 screen therefore results are x2

To proper compare GPU power you should look into offscreen mode results, in 1920x1080 mode

Why would we be interested in pre-production engineering sample test results? You have production samples on hands so you can test benchmarks yourself and post real life results
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
As for GPU performance, I get 30fps off screen egypt HD GL benchmark which is 1fps higher than anandtech got with the optimus G S4Pro and 2 higher than the iPhone 5

Nexus 4 kicks ass.

Antutu is clearly not optimised for androids new kernel, same hardware yet lower score makes no sense (and no, it's not thermal throttling)

And here is my HSPA+ only connection on three-UK (not DC-HSDPA)
[Nexus 4 General] Billy Madison:
We need your results in this tread. Pimp your nex, we need to compare this to other phones especially in browser and 3D benches
[Nexus 4 General] Godaemon:
Hello guys this is the last test from Antutu compared to the highest nexus 4 score that was in the database.Could someone please tell me from what does the CPU floating point is affected?I see a big difference between mine and the other nexus.Thanks in advance :)
[Nexus 4 General] cowithgun:
Just want to share with you all my Nenamark2 score: 126.8 FPS

Beat any phone in the market, by far.
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
^^^^LOL how did you disable vertical sync?^^^^
[Nexus 4 General] Connor Baker:
My Bench.

Trinity on Codefirex SR5.

Connor Baker
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Wow!
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Am I the only one that has seen the Nexus 4's that are in the 30-40K range in the comparison tab?
[Nexus 4 General] Connor Baker:
I think so :) I say hax or liquid nitrogen :P