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[HTC One X] atrako1973:
Sooo many things are wrong with xda , people are frustrated for a reason Mr Andy ,it was HTC who came out and said the one series will get jb ,nobody forced them to commit to an update,it was HTC who came out and said jb will roll out in the end of October ,no body forced them to put a time frame for the release , it was HTC who said jb is rolling out all over Europe and the world ,nobody in Europe got it ,its blatant crap ,it was rolled out in taiwan where HTC botched WiFi and some elevate people got it as well for testing,so its far very far from jb is rolling out, so please understand people frustrations and rants because as usual its HTC who puts themselves in the pickles and we know by now comunication is not one of HTC strong points
[HTC One X] rvdgeer:
To me it's all about managing expectations...

As far as I know, HTC said they would roll out Jelly Bean to the One X starting by the end of October.

And they did, or at least tried to, but discovered some errors with the FOTA, it seems.

I'm glad they take the time to come up with a fixed FOTA.

In all 'official' communications I've seen, HTC said they can't/won't give more details about when or how.

According to me, HTC is sticking to what they've said earlier, so we shouldn't complain about that.

A lot of us are going by what some individual over at HTC, a trusted source, or some guy at the internet might have said.

Again, as far as I know, there's no official statement from HTC (press release, site anouncement, etc.) that told us we all sould have had it by now.

I guess a lot of us are going by the wrong 'facts'.

Maybe HTC should have known they were (are) being misinterpreted and they should have done a better job in managing expectations...

But, to me (!) that's all we can blame them for...

Now, I want my JB! :)
[HTC One X] harullis:
HTC__304 nothing here
[HTC One X] hamdir:
Funny how i am the most crazy One X fanatic around here and yet i couldn't care less when the update will arrive

when your current firmware is not broken, working perfectly, torturing yourself for a silly OS update that simply add some new features is really silly

also considering that we can't even dev for it since the kernel source will arrive later, plus this update will make it harder for you to flash other ROMs like CM10 because the hboot is changed, there is no reason for the hurry

unless you like us to tell HTC to hurry and release it with bugs?

this is why expressing your feelings, when its just for the sake of moaning should be banned around here

it's called XDA DEVELOPERS and not XDA CRYCORNERS
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
You can't trust any outsourced's Support hotlines and emails nowadays! The onky outsource you can trust is that Outsource drama series on TV :rolleyes:
[HTC One X] atrako1973:
That's all you got from my post ? I was merely pointing why this thread is derailing and why people are frustrated ,last time I checked this wasn't a development thread ,learn to read my friend don't jump the gun
[HTC One X] lilvfr400boy:
Is the no lockscreen option in the stock Rom or only in maximus as I'd like to see if it let's YouTube audio carry on when power buttons pressed with no lock screen option is on if on stock version, anyone help?
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Couldn't agree more.

I have reduced the amount of time I spend on this thread. The negativity gives me a headache.

When I do come its basically to see if someone heard from a reliable source that the ota is or will be rolling out.

The amount of whinging and moaning that needs to be scanned through is pitiful. You're like a bunch of old ladies (no offence to old ladies!)

Your phones are fine as they are.

:confused: HTC told you a lie? GET OVER IT! :crying:
[HTC One X] stuart0001:
I applaud htc for taking their time to ensure that the public release is as flawless as possible. I don't remember so many different bases prior to release before to iron out any issues.

Sure their commications could be better but I'm much happier to have a delayed good update than a rushed buggy one.
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Believe me you didnt want the update from the initial release. I'm glad HTC have waited.
[HTC One X] Dysphonic:
Were any devices bricked?
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Nope.
[HTC One X] Dysphonic:
So if no device was bricked and any problems were patched, why are the rest of us still waiting?
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Because not all problems have been patched. Look at the SGS3 their JB is out and it is very buggy. If HTC released theirs buggy then everyone would moan and say oh I'm leaving HTC.
[HTC One X] GriffinSauce:
How do you know all issues are fixed?
[HTC One X] Shelby5:
Yes there is Hami bloatware.

This is from the firmware file.

modelid: PJ4610000

cidnum: HTC__621

mainver: 3.14.751.20

hbootpreupdate:12

RadioVer: 5.1204.162.29

erasebcid: 1
[HTC One X] Vcek:
Because HTC said so, AND people who had the problems reported it.

The problems mentioned are mainly hardware problems that cannot be avoided like sensors/wifi/screen/touch/sound

however other rom problems like music player were fixed, but I can assure you that people will start noticing other problems in the rom later. (custom rom users will not see this one)
[HTC One X] Dysphonic:
Thanks, now I understand, there are still issues to be patched. That was not apparent in all the discussion about when we will get JB; will it be19th Nov etc. I won't hold my breath for that then. It confuses me a little that there are custom ROMs (albeit without Sence layer) out there that apparently don't have so many problems, or maybe they do.
[HTC One X] ste1164:
When did HTC say they had all been fixed? As a tester I can say not all arent. Just be patient and wait for a release. If you are that bothered go on ARHD then you can try it yourself.

---------- Post added at 12:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------

Smaller problems are there also, like battery drain on those non sense roms. When you add sense you can bring more problems that need to be sorted.
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
Is it possible in any way to install the HBOOT version 1.31 or 1.33 to flash the custom ARHD JB as you advised??

My HOX has CID HTC__044
[HTC One X] hassan89:
With that CID you will just have to wait till OTA for wwe Asia is released.
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
So, this advise of ste1164 not applicable?:(
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
We need official firmware which signed by HTC, simply no alternative solution.
[HTC One X] ste1164:
Sorry man :/ I completely forgot about the CID thing. If you dont mind not having sense you could go on a cyanogenmod rom? :)
[HTC One X] jaspreettttt:
19 is the D day :)
[HTC One X] lukikai:
I hope...
[HTC One X] Silverazzo:
We all cross the fingers that will be the right day :D

Inviato dal mio HTC One X con Tapatalk 2
[HTC One X] Renarl:
It better be! :D
[HTC One X] Larac:
You're correct, I start a new job and get a note II to keep my hox company.

I'm going to need bigger pockets.

On topic I do think that the current software is good, but jb and butter will help round it off nicely. But as I've only had the phone a few days it's all good to me.
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
1 hour plus to go in Asia to the D day, namely Singapore.....:D
[HTC One X] jaspreettttt:
I'm in Asia too =D
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Ha ha, you can never have too many mobile devices!

Why not treat yourself to a few Nexus devices as well ;)
[HTC One X] jaspreettttt:
Let's hope they don't update it like 3am for spore here.
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
HOwever, you might still need to wait for that magical number of 1008....
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Does anyone know if the accordion effect is still used for the end of menus in sense 4+?
[HTC One X] darkidz555:
19 is the date? i hope so as well in malaysia i bet no matter how they delay is just until end of this month 1 more week to go peace HTC lovers
[HTC One X] StefanCelMare:
I'd advise you not to create an artificial dead-line - 19th of Nov. or death :D

19th could be the day it starts rolling, but it is safer to think you'll get it a bit later.

Even if it starts rolling on the 19th, not all devices will get it that day.

I'd say sometimes in the next 2 weeks, it is likely to start rolling.
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Good point, and remember to keep your battery charged :good:
[HTC One X] blogslogger:
Nope, its just plain old tab switching like sense 3 and below.. sad to see that go.. :P
[HTC One X] stuart0001:
Yes it is :thumbup:
[HTC One X] Vcek:
When did HTC say so? In the ota update message. Yes maybe they didn't fix ALL the problems, but I'm sure they fixed the main hardware drivers issues like sensors,wifi and touch(cannot be fixed without changing Hboot). Testers(and the taiwanese) confirmed those problems are fixed, other problems are usually there which are within the system, but those are easily fixed in Custom roms(i don't know why ALL OEMs usually don't bother fixing those)
[HTC One X] ste1164:
The fact that Taiwan. Had to get another OTA after jb was released shows there were still issues. Easily fixed with custom roms but HTC want this to be good for the general public. The S3 launch has been stopped in India because of the bugs. It is clear HTC don't want this to happen so they are making sure its bug free.
[HTC One X] amirage:
Dude u really think tomorrow is the dday? It's going to be another disappointment tomorrow.
[HTC One X] kelvintisw:
Haha!:silly:

Just "poking" some moral support for those D Day Preppers here....:D

BTW, I have returned to stock for 4 weeks and yet the D Day has not came yet. :eek:

I'm too lazy to go back to custom with the fact that the stock is pretty snappy already minus all those tweaks.

When my set get the OTA pop up on 19th Dec, I will post the image here first thing in the morning!

It's time now to watch the D-Day Preppers on Discovery Channel...:cool:

Cheers!
[HTC One X] stuart0001:
I think you are referring to the cube effect which has unfortunately gone :mad:
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Sorry, what I meant by the accordion effect is, when you scroll to the end of a list and you pull, it separates/stretches the list apart.

Is this still present in the new sense 4+?

Thanks
[HTC One X] backfromthestorm:
Yes
[HTC One X] colinmc8:
Thanks, assuming you're answering me :)
[HTC One X] thugangel662:
Hey guys how's it going?

Long time reader, first time poster :)

I just wanted to let you know I met through a friend a guy that works in HTC in the marketing department.

I grilled him a bit trying to get some information about the update. Unfortunately, I didn't get the date, he said he didn't know, but he gave me the reasons why it got delayed.

He said some devices suffered from over heating with the new software, and the new update wasn't as efficient as they wanted it to be. He said they're trying to get more runtime from the device, and the developers are working hard at it.

He said they don't want to make the same mistakes they did with 1.26, and end up fixing it with update after another. They want to release one perfect update.

Was going to ask him about the HTC deluxe, but he seemed to be getting irritated because I just met him and I was kinda pushing it really :D

If I meet him again I'll try to get some new info, and will share with you.

Later
[HTC One X] krohme:
Absolutely agree with you there mate. I've given up on waiting for this update, TBH I don't think we'll see it until the christmas period. I don't care what anyone says - this has been a total mess of an update from HTC.
[HTC One X] dragonesdenano:
Everybody should unlocked your device and flash my rom till really ota is ready. Cmon, just have fun, that s all about, i mean .. XDA:p

Relax and enjoy with hox forum s mates:)

SkyDragon Sense Rom V1
[HTC One X] amirage:
Hey dragon...I'd love to put your Rom but its a pain to reinstall all the apps and then when the update really comes out I'll have to RUU back and then reinstall everything...especially when are playing a game and u can't back up the saved data...useless game devs of batman...everytme I flash a new Rom I need play the game over and over again from the start...
[HTC One X] dragonesdenano:
Yeap, dont tell me about not gaming, everytime i flash a test rom or upcoming V2, i just install basic apps... Thats the bad and dark side of cooking roms.

Btw, i wasnt really talking about my rom, just flash whatever u want to flash... :)

SkyDragon Sense Rom V1
[HTC One X] HebeGuess:
Totally agreed.
[HTC One X] cuzzo94:
by now the post in which it is said to be quiet for those who want the update are twice those of you actually ask for the update LOL
[HTC One X] grujic.ljubomir:
You said it like a BOSS Barry! :) I've been keeping an eye on this thread but all I can see is a lot of impatience. There isn't a single phone manufacturer on this planet that does updates the way everybody around here would like, not a single one! If I had to choose between a rushed bodge job of an update that is on time or a well prepared one that is a few weeks late I would choose to wait, no question about it! Someone else said it already, enjoy your phone, use it, play with it, show it off, make phone calls, send sms or any other God given activity that you choose, and stop freaking out over an update that in the end want provide you with a brand new revolutionary OS but rather some minor improvements from what you have already. Peace! :D
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
And what about if you have to choose between 'А rushed bodge job of an update that is on time' and 'delayed updates with new bugs'?

The last moment is always too short... and farther some new weeks will not give us Android 4.2 :D

My old teacher told me this proverbs: 'It is too late to lock the stable door when the horse is stolen' and 'A stitch in time saves nine'

I agree with it :o
[HTC One X] cvision123:
I think that the solution is quite simple. The fact is that HTC lied or stretched the truth. They may be or may be not really care about their customers' need for update to fix their laggy Sense skin. As a customer, one has the right to select the product from the company that serves best. It would be very interesting to see millions of customers just simply avoid buying one or two generations of phones from HTC then HTC will be more serious about the promises :)
[HTC One X] Vcek:
A bug was discovered, update was delayed. That's it, no need for a revolution.

Sent from my EndeavorU
[HTC One X] easy_ci:
T-Mobile Germany isnt able to give US a concrete release-date for JellyBean... "it will take a while"

Wouldnt be so hard if i wouldnt have a branded HOX with incompatible CID :/

I hope there will be a solution in further time...

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] Brownie2k:
To be totally fair, i think it's likely that HTC have found a pretty bad bug in their Taiwan roll-out and they're trying to fix the issue. Maybe it was a HBOOT problem, or an actual problem with JB. Whats going to be better in the long run? Delaying the update for a a while, or releasing another buggy OTA and having A LOT of people complain about how bad the update is, and how rushed it feels?

At the end of the day, HTC want to release an update with as few bugs as possible, so if it takes that bit longer to release, then so be it.
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
So either you did no research on HTC's update history and picked the wrong company or those of us that own/owned Samsung products that have been saying they are no better or worse than HTC are full of crap. Assuming you want to stay on Android, where would you go to get "better service?" Nexus is the obvious answer for those that put getting X.X.00002 ahead of everything else as their number one priority in selecting a device. But for someone to whom updates are a priority, picking a HTC or Samsung device is just plain stupid based on their combined update histories. And buying a Samsung or HTC device from a carrier just makes it worse. And with Google releasing OS updates even faster I see nothing that's going to make it any better; in all likelihood it'll get worse. Getting oneself in to something they should have been aware of and then complaining about is called martyrdom. And if you read the N4 forum it's no picnic over their either. They've traded lightening fast updates for a completely different set of problems; some more serious than any we've encountered.
[HTC One X] Andy:
Amongst the software bugs, the update caused issues with a few hardware components among a few Elevate members. The proximity sensor was one, & I think WiFi was another.
[HTC One X] tkolev:
All of the above.

1.HTC couldn't afford to drop behind Samsung on this so they lied about having a release version (they knew they would have an RC though) at the end of October.

2. The PR misinformed their FB and Tweeter staff about the release being global.

3. Severe issues were found (dying sensors) but they made the decision to go with a relatively small region and replacing the devices that experienced those faults before the update was fixed (probably a small number). That's not what I would call an ego but rather keeping a promise and bearing the consequences.

4. The "something" that happened was expected (i do believe that something like that has 99% probability of being spotted by the QA even before the Taiwanese release) and that's why they don't want to rush the other regions before the RC becomes a real release version.

5. See above.
[HTC One X] Atlantics:
'Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance'. As I see the "something" that happened with OTA was during every HTC update and could be expected now.

Its time to roll out JB OTA without bugs, but not for searching and fixing bugs

Do not hate people whose patience has worn out:)
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
That's actually a good point. This thread's up to 85 pages and people just joining it don't necessarily know that anything said has already been said (most likely a dozen times). And everyone here want's the update as soon as they can get it so that's one thing we all have in common.

We've been comparing HTC to Samsung quite a bit. Here's why their updates are always a cluster. This is a list of all the "current" ROMs for the N8000 by region. I say current because what's current in one region could be three updates behind another region. And Samsung may never update the older ROM in a specific region. They are perfectly content with having a dozen different versions of s/w with different included app versions and different features all running on a single device at the same time. As an example, S-Note in the Note allows for importing PDF files. A bunch of people on the forum said S-Note was crashing when they tried to use the feature. Someone posted the PDF they were having problems with to Dropbox and it opened fine on some Notes and crashed on others. It turns out there were seven different versions of S-Note based on ROM and two of the seven had the problem. And the Note's sold 2MM units. If it looks like this can you imagine what the SGS3 that's sold 30MM units must look like? So I can say for an inarguable fact that Samsung's no better than HTC when it comes to managing and updating their s/w.
[HTC One X] Vcek:
I bet if htc didn't mention the update until it was released, it would have been much quieter, and better for the business in the long run.

Sent from my EndeavorU
[HTC One X] GriffinSauce:
But why though? Not whining, but why must they release so many different versions? Different languages could be contained within one ROM right? So do they need changes in the radio or such for different regions?

It seems to me that if they found a solution for this multiplicity it will save them a bucketload of problems and money..
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
I gave up trying to figure out why Samsung and HTC do the things they do a long time ago because it defies logic. But you're right. I can't think of a more complicated, convoluted, and inefficient way to manage s/w releases than Samsung's process. They probably have people acting like air traffic controllers just trying get updates out the door and figuring out who gets what and when. As for languages, I'm using the just-released German JB ROM and it supports 72 languages. :rolleyes:

Here's another complication. Samsung equivalent of a CID is called a CSC. A single device can have multiple CSC's on it beside the one it was configured to ship with. For example, devices sold in Germany ship with the CSC's for Austria, Belgium, France, Hungary, Italy, Spain, and the UK. Through a hidden setting you can change the CSC to another region. A German device can become a UK device. Now here's where it gets fun. A single ROM can configure itself differently based on the CSC it detects. On the Note, people from the UK that manually installed the German JB update lost the shortcuts on the lock screen (along with everyone else). When they changed their CSC from the UK to Germany they reappeared. My Note's Brazilian so I don't have those options. So not only is the s/w different by region, it's also configures itself differently based on the individual device it's loaded on. Spooky. Feeling better about HTC? ;)
[HTC One X] knoxploration:
All these people whining about HTC lagging a little bit behind its release schedule (which it did actually meet) should go out now and buy an Asus Transformer TF101.

The update you're screaming at HTC to release would cause much the same situation for HTC users as Asus created for the Transformer on ICS.

Asus launched a serious of utterly flawed, buggy updates for the TF101, made the device essentially unusable (it corrupts, randomly reboots, randomly locks up, and randomly powers off)... and then they abandoned it having taken a great device and turned it into a doorstop.

If you think HTC should be rushing their update, I can tell you from painful experience that they shouldn't be.

Not unless you want to use your phone as a paper weight, that is. (It's too small to be a doorstop.)
[HTC One X] tkolev:
No. It would be better for the XDA's part of their customers. The other 99% are waiting patiently for their "turn" to get the update. "Better for the business" is to be on par with the competition - the SGS3 started updating to JB, the HOX started updating to JB.

Edit: BTW the Elevate leak would still have reached XDA so we would have the "Why HTC are so slow in officially releasing JB" thread...
[HTC One X] iriedaily:
Nov. 19 should be the date even according the swiss carrier swisscom: outsidelinkbecauseofnewuser://supportcommunity.swisscom.ch/t5/Diskussionen-%C3%BCber-Mobiltelefonie/HTC-One-X-Jelly-Bean-Update/td-p/134446 (google translate should do the work ;) ) . They confirm in post #6 the rollout for the beginning of the upcoming week, so lets hope the best :highfive:
[HTC One X] BarryH_GEG:
Someone should e-mail that to Google... ;)

File this one under How did Google not have a test for this? Got a birthday or anniversary in December? Sorry - Android 4.2 doesn't know what December is. Well, rather the People/Contacts app that comes stock and is part of the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) doesn't. Wait... what?

We couldn't believe it either, but it's true. Google forgot to include December. As in, there are 11 months in a year. January after November. Christmas is ruined. Santa is dead. At least we'll save money on buying presents, right?

We verified this on a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 10 running 4.2.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/17/sorry-santa-google-cancels-december-in-android-4-2/ ​
[HTC One X] Andy:
Not so verified as my N7 running 4.2 has December, that includes the people app too! :)
[HTC One X] zuadao:
theres no end of the world for google lol
[HTC One X] psinno:
I think that is a gross exaggeration. At no stage during the many ICS updates ASUS released would I have preferred to go back to HC. Rebooting your transformer before using it hardly equates to a doorstep. That was my experience anyway. Maybe yours was as bad as you say.
[HTC One X] skywalker1970:
To all those comparing Samsung updates for jb. See below link. At least for Indian users jb for s3 is being rolled back.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34313140

Sent via XDA app