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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
I don't know what language the title of that youtube video was, but they are made in Japan, and the one I bought on ebay is being sent from Japan.

If anyone wants one and is too lazy to look.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=QE-TM101&_sacat=0&_from=R40
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I'm listening. You have my complete focus. I think it's good to have a fundamental understanding of the technology you use on a daily basis. Furthermore I wonder if half the people in this thread actually understands what they just purchased. I certainly don't and I'm happy if you can post anything about it. I always try my best to thank anyone who spends the time teaching.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
On the phone right now, this requires a pc, lol. Will have it for you in an hour or so.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
Just as a FYI, magnetism has nothing to do with moving photons. Induction charging is based on the phenomenon that a varying magnetic field (actually varying magnetic flux) produces current in a conductor (laws of induction were originally coined by Faraday). On the phone right now so can't really explain in detail.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
I swear that the magnets were just to hold it on the orb or activate the charging procedure.

Kinds of like the magnets in car docks.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
A normal magnet that isn't moving wouldn't produce a nickel's worth of current. Basically the orb generates through varying current (not absolutely sure about this since it can also be a moving magnet but that's unlikely) varying magnetic field that induces a current in the coils present inside the phone which charges it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Ah, I see what you're doing there. Sorry about that. By the by if anyone is interested in how induction, specifically, works. Dragooon may be more helpful. I suck at applied EM, I've got concepts and field theory, don't ask me to DO anything with it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exel:
Hm; http://www.amazon.com/Power-Mat-PMM...TF8&qid=1352922943&sr=1-2&keywords=qi+charger

T-Moobile is selling these. ^
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedh:
Anywho... they have the nokia pillow on sale here for a pretty good price:

£56

http://www.passiontec.co.uk/_fenster.php?art_id=40120227&ref_id=Froogle_UK
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptir:
It most likely has some number of placement magnets and then an induction charging coil for the actual charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
That looks cool, I wonder how the thing detects how to align with the coil. Even though it should charge the Nexus 4, the auto detection may or may not work. From the other site someone else linked in the page before your post, it says Panasonic's battery packs are required, but that site doesn't seem very trustworthy with its information on the product.

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Those are not compatible with the Nexus 4, though it's interesting how much cheaper Powermat products are.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmquez:
Website is a bit dodgy? nearly £10 delivery.. might just wait. I really like the FatBoy tho
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jt.61:
every rep that i talked to said they will not be selling it on the play store, but a 3rd party company will make them and sell them on their own.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
The QE-TM101 uses the Qi standard, therefor it will work with other batterys/devices that use it. Which is what the Nexus 4 uses. Here's a decent thread on Qi chargers on XDA http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32708116&highlight=clock#post32708116
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
I know, that's why I said it should charge it. But the detection for the thing that moves the charging point is another matter. Does it detect the coil itself, or is there another mechanism that Panasonic packs have?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFFICIAL-NEW-Panasonic-Charge-Pad-QE-TM101-W-/150629780564

Item location: Tokyo, Japan
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sitnlow4life:
Palm touchstone doesn't work either
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androidclub:
Why? is it Qi standart?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klin1344:
It has been reported on multiple places, including AndroidPolice (I think) that the Touchstone is not Qi standard and is confirmed incompatible with the N4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmomoman:
The Nokia plates being $49.99 is not a bad deal. Since I can get 25% off the accessories from Verizon for Business and the HTC 8X has a black charging plate that means I can get a QI standard Nokia plate for $37.50 each. Not too bad if the ORB is more.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androidclub:
Thanks for advance
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NotEnoughMinerals:
going with the Panasonic QE TM101, available now and looks to work pretty well.

Plus if the orb isn't going to be sold directly by google and we don't know when it's going to be available I'd rather look for other options in the meantime.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacobfogg:
Will the Tuchstone work!?

... nm, found the answer... =)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astalavista_thes:
I haven't tried myself, but everybody who tried tells that it doesn't. It's incompatible...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmquez:
Not sure you guys red my message on the UK wireless charger thread, but Nokia chargers do not work properly with the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R3SiEViL:
No, no official n7 dock yet. Only the leaked photos months ago
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
How many different wireless charging standards are there and how widespread are they?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zurginator:
That I know of? Qi and Powermat.

The touchstone is it's own proprietary thing.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] florian3000:
Yeah this alarm clock with the charger looks pretty neat and reasonably priced ($85). Does anyone have that thing? (Oregon Scientific)

Otherwise a speaker would be really cool .. are there other devices than that JBL?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/11/16/3655014/qi-google-starbucks-compatibility-issues
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StevenZoz:
i remember reading in one of the nexus 4 reviews that the writers used the fatboy charging pillow from their nokia on the n4 and it worked fine
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hemlocke:
Yeah, but at $95 for a brightly colored charging "pillow," that's a bit steep.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raider5oh:
The Fatboy uses the same charger (DT-900) its just a "pillow" cover over it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lqm2Rhdr6Y
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MN_Bug:
I ordered one just after my phone order was "confirmed". I'll let you know how the atomic clock works in a day or two. I'll let you know how the charger works in 3 to 4 weeks :mad:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hosermage:
People seems to say this is compatible: http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Portable-Office-Charging/dp/B005DMBSVA?tag=leic-20

Can anyone confirm?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junks2010:
Can someone with the Enegizer Qi Inductive Dual Charger please confirm that it work with the Nexus 4?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Energizer---Qi-Inductive-Charger/1599396.p?id=1218272175902&skuId=1599396

Thank you.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjames:
People I trust have said yes, so I ordered mine yesterday. I'm sure someone else will report here before it actually arrives, but I'll chime in with my personal experience when it arrives, either way. As lame as it sounds, the fact that it is also LG sold me on it, haha.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AmesCell:
One of the reviews showed it working. I think it was Anandtech
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junks2010:
Thank you.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madj42:
I can confirm this. My local Verizon store had this and the Nokia DT-900. I tried both with my Nexus 4. The DT-900 had the same problem I think the Verge had, it would constantly drop the charging connection. The WCP-700 worked flawlessly for the 2 minutes my N4 was on it. No drops.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Imppy:
too bad it does not ship to canada
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hemlocke:
I have looked at all the alternatives, but I think I am just going to wait for the orb. I like my Nokia stand with my 920, but the adapter is a giant brick.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Yep, I'm waiting for the orb too.

Just hope its bot too expensive for what it is, and hopefully available quick.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hemlocke:
Yeah, me too on both counts.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runningwarrior08:
I also would love to have the orb, but waiting for it.... I don't think I will as I waited for the official nexus dock for the galaxy nexus and we all know how that went. So I will prolly purchase either the energizer or the lg one. And then get the orb when it is out, it doesn't hurt to have an extra charger laying around or at work etc..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
I have it. Got my N4 yesterday and the charger the day before. Used it last night. Works perfect. Two things to consider. The phone seems to want contact centered and the pad's induction contact is a bit higher as seen in the spec photos showing the Qi logo. The other thing that I don't care for is that when charging and even when full battery and still in contact over the induction field there is a blue indicator light emanating underneath near the front that I find annoying. For me...I'm relegating this unit to my home office and will use the LG unit just received today on the nightstand tonight to see how that works. Really can't wait for the Orb though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
Here's the LG unit WCP-700 ordered from some Amazon store. Just fired it up. It's branded Verizon on the back. I like it better for my bedside table. (yeah...nexxy is wrong side up in photo one...oops)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
Erm any chance you could try uploading the images to Imgur or something? I'm not seeing anything.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
http://imgur.com/a/iIHTU#0
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
And now they showed up for me on here too, haha.

Many thanks for the photos! I just ordered an LG charger.

It's correct that to charge them you just lay it there right, there are no magnets or anything to aid in lining it up?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
there is some magnetic pull with the lg. the lg is also slightly concave to the center like a subtle pocket. the n4 fits perfect in the minimal rectangular 'bowl' and combined with the light magnetic pull you will center in the charging field perfect every time. the field is big enough that a perfect center placement is not needed and as soon as charge initiates you hear a beep. the beep i could do without but some will appreciate it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
Very nice to hear, thanks for the information and photos, I appreciate it! I'll have the LG tide me over until the charging orb comes out.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatttire:
If you read amazon reviews a number of people found the beep annoying and ended up taking the speaker out the charger (where the beep comes from)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishrally:
I decided on the LG charger. It seems to have the best chance of working properly and it's the cheapest.

They are sold out on Newegg and I wouldn't be surprised if they starting going up in price on Amazon. $40 isn't a bad deal. Looking forward to it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mZimm:
I agree. I really like the Nokia docks, but from the sounds of it, they don't work real well with the N4, and I do like the LG more than the energizer. Given the lack of availability, it seems like LG may have discontinued the WCP-700, which is ironic given that they will probably have a higher demand from N4 owners than any prior target market. :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tclaw:
This kind of charger will only work if the phones not in a case right . Like an otter box case.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hemlocke:
Not necessarily. They charge to a certain range (My Nokia does to almost 1"), but it does reduce efficiency.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsapp:
I have an Energizer charger and it works. The phone gets pretty hot if using this to charge and playing with your phone at the same time, but this seems to be common with the phone. Downside is that the phone slides off easily as it is slightly angled. I will probably be replacing this with something else when I find a charger that doesn't make noise like the LG wireless charger supposedly does. Or the orb.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FatalityBoyZahy:
Is NFC affected by magnetic frequency? I think it'd be pretty cool if this dock used NFC so we could also transfer data... wirelessly :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norazi:
NFC has a max transfer speed of about 400kb/s (thats BITS not BYTES)... so unless you want to wait minutes to transfer one mp3 or photo, you should probably stick with other tech for data transfer
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DJ "suMo*:
Does anybody know when this thing is officially supposed to come out?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hemlocke:
That's the $64,000 question, and I'm pretty sure there is no definitive answer...yet.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Malandrina:
I was unlucky and didn't get my N4 on the first day... anyway:

The LG one seems to be annoying because of the beep and I want to use the Qi charger on my nightstand... besides: I didn't find a source for the german market! The eBay seller unfortunatly refuses to ship to my country... :(

So if any of my fellow countrymates are on the same Qi charger hunting quest and they can come up with a source - that would be great!

From the pricepoint it looks like the Zens-ZESC01B-00 is the cheapest available model here in germany (50 Euro) http://www.amazon.de/Zens-ZESC01B-00-kabelloses-kompatiblen/dp/B005PL5GSA

But I'm in love with the Panasonic Chargepad (http://www.ebay.de/itm/Panasonic-QE-TM101-K-Black-Charge-Pad-100-240V-/130804298212)

It seems to be very convenient with it's automatic coil arranger! Does any of you guys own this gadget? I would love to hear "everything works fine" from any of you... =)

Even with the almost 13 Euro shipping cost from Japan it's like 56 Euro total... so it's not a total overkill for me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
The distance added by a case is far less of an issue than the degree to which is alters the magnetic permeability of the closed space between the coils. Something like an otterbox case with thick plastic and a rubber lining may reduce efficiency significantly.

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Even with NFC transfers between devices it is not the actual NFC transceiver that does the data exchange. With this device I think it is bluetooth, with SGSIII's I want to say it's wifi. NFC is just used to register the presence of another device, exchange bluetooth ID's and establish a lock.

^^this^^ is why it is done that way.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mZimm:
I'm not in Germany, but that Panasonic Chargepad is really cool! This is the first time I've seen that, I wish I could find it for $56 USD. Cheapest I've found is about $70 with shipping - it seems no retailers here carry it either. High price of yen is definitely hurting us. :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Testraindrop:
Yeah I'm also considering that Zens one, according to Amazon it works fine with the Lumia, so should work fine with the N4.. Any one tried it yet?

At least it has no beeping :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sean09:
I made a thread in the Q&A section but figured I might get better exposure here. Has anyone tried the inductive Wiimote charger by Energizer? It has 2 wiimote spots and uses Qi. It can also be had for $11.99 used at Gamestop which is dirt cheap. I bought one but don't have my phone yet to confirm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gear.h34d.2012:
First I've heard of this. I'll call my local Gamestops and see if they have them. If so I'll pick one up and report back. Can't beat that price.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Malandrina:
56 Euro = 71,27 US Dollars

But I think it's worth it... You don't have to be on your toes where to place the N4 on that Pad... Anything like "wait for a annoying beep" to place it right seems to be inconvenient...

I'll wait until my N4 arrives and truth be told - that could take a while until the next batch is ready for shipping! Then I'll look around for a reliable source to prove that the Panasonic Chargepad indeed works fine with the N4 and order it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sean09:
It's this one here:

http://www.gamestop.com/wii/accessories/wii-energizer-induction-charger/74704

It was tagged as $19.99 new and $11.99 used (with member discount, $12 something without), although the site states $29.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pyroshane:
I replied to your post in Q&A but I will drop this here as well. I have the four remote version of the charge pad sitting next to my Wii right now. As soon as Google decides I can have my phone (Play Store status is complete, order date was changed to the 17th, and I received the BOE) I will test it out and let you know.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astalavista_thes:
This is (at least) the third time I read people having QI chargers and waiting for their Nexus 4. So there are people out there who have nexus 4s and not QI chargers and people with QI chargers waiting for Nexus 4s. And none has the perfect combination (I suppose that there are millions with no QI chargers AND Nexus 4s). What kind of sorcery is this?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runningwarrior08:
I just saw this one at Walmart Friday night when I was looking for the energizer one. I have my phone and want a qi I miss my wireless charging of my GN.

The reason I didn't buy it is on the package it does not say Qi anywhere and it doesn't have any amperage ratings anywhere for me to compare. I assumed a wiimote was probably half an amp charge and this is 1 amp I believe...so I didn't buy it. Maybe I will get it today though and try it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sean09:
Qi compatible as per Energizer site, and rear of it indicates output at 2.8V 480mA and a url or www.pdp.com
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pyroshane:
I have my doubts about it working well (if at all), simply because there are pre-marked spots for each Wii remote with the coils lined up under each spot. The N4 is about as wide as two Wii remotes, so there will either be issues where one small coil in the pad is trying to line up with the larger one in the phone, or where two coils in the pad are trying to work at once, which I can't imagine will have great results. There are also magnets in the pad and in the matching battery packs for the Wii remotes to help line them up properly, and that may cause the N4 to line up improperly, since it also has magnets (or at least magnetic pads) to help it hold to the wireless charging orb.

Either way, I will try it out the day the phone arrives and report back. No use for someone else to drop money on the pad just to find out if it works or not. If anyone in the Fargo area has an N4 already and wants to stop over and give it a shot, just let me know.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runningwarrior08:
Thank you, it will not work.

It will not work to verify your statement the nexus 4 requires 5v at 1amp or 1000mA minimum. It most likely will not even register charging. Unless it uses a different voltage for Qi which I highly doubt.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Where in the Energizer site does it say it uses Qi? I also thought about this, but since the site has two separate sections, one for Qi products, and another one for the Wii charger, I didn't take the risk of testing with this. I have a Sanyo Wii charger, I thought that to be more likely to be Qi although it doesn't say officially either. At the same time that Sanyo came out with it, it also pushed other products Qi-based. Anyway, both may or may not work. I bought the Sanyo for $15 and change.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ziggy34:
Has anyone tried any chargers with a case on the phone or at least something under the phone about the same thickness.

Sent from my A500
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1962570&page=31
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sean09:
I tried an in-store demo on the LG charging pad through a TPU case (S wave and androidified), both worked.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] resynx:
That's good to know. I'll probably be ordering one of the Androidified cases pretty soon.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M0D3RNAFR0:
Yea. For that much, I'll just get the Fatboy pillow for 79 on Amazon.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpswer:
Bought the LG charging pad and getting it shipped from the USA over here to the UK since it worked out cheaper than everything here :P gonna buy the orb when it drops as long as it's not stupidly priced.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oggy512:
Has someone of you germans buy the LG WCP 700? I'm interessted in this thing to charge my N4 (can't wait for official orb :D), but if i order it from amazon it' might come with the US plug, so i can't use it in germany.

Or is there a way to get an charging pad with german plug?

thanks!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astalavista_thes:
What about buying and adapter US --> EU power socket? I use adapters (EU --> UK) because much of my equipment has the classic European socket and I leave in the UK where there's a different one. They are cheap (~2 euros).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3Shirts:
Same. Once it arrives I'll post back here with a little review and try a few things like different positions and putting other objects in between to simulate different cases. I am one of the lucky ones with the phone already in hand.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jenskristian:
According to LG Norway the charging orb will probably be available in Norway early next year.

www.dinside.no/906123/lg-nexus-4

http://translate.google.com/transla...tp://www.dinside.no/906123/lg-nexus-4&act=url

Picture:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BK553:
Anyone confirm if this works? I read the amazon reviews, but can we confirm it works? And does it have a magnet to hold it in place, or does it just rest on top?

NEVERMIND THE ANSWER IS ABOVE I"M RETARDED.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Portable-Office-Charging/dp/B005DMBSVA/ref=pd_sim_cps_1
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashymac86:
Im gonna order the LG pad from amazon i think, just need a plug adapter ...

Shame the powermat charger isnt Qi standard ... only £5.83 on amazon.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idividebyzero:
The LG charger is angled, chances are the phone will slide off it since it slides off everything known to man. I would avoid all angled chargers unless its magnetized.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AmesCell:
The LG one is cupped and kind of rubbery. I set my iphone on it and no sliding issues.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astalavista_thes:
Anyone who would like to guess the price of the nexus orb?

I think that it will be an average price. Like £49.99 from play store.