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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
Correct. I just pulled it from my box. It states a 12 month warranty with proof of purchase and 15 months from date of manufacture (no clue where that comes from lol)

Also states that the warranty is only good to the orignial purchaser and as long as it is in the US, including Alaska and Hawaii, US Territories (ie Puerto Rico) and Canada.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
Just got one of these cases, and I like it a lot. It looks good, fits well, and it works great with the orb. $7.95 well-spent.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
Mine charges to 100%, but after a few minutes of idle, it drops to 99%, 98%, 97% then becomes stable.

I have tried calibrating the battery, depleting it to 0 then charging to 100% on the ORB. Phone OFF Charge full, Phone ON charge full. Different Kernels, ROMS but still.

Before with the wired charger, it went to 100% and stayed there.

ORB Issue, Drawback?

P.S. Just noticed in BetterBatteryStats, it shows

"PowerManagerService.WirelessChargerDetector"

1 h 57 m 24 s (7044s) Cnt: (c/wc/ec)0/0/0 95.6%
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
It's running off the battery all the time when using the orb. With a wired charger I assume it can charge the battery and run the phone from the power from the charger. It doesn't seem surprising that it behaves differently with the different charging methods.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImSherlocked:
whenever I pickup the phone after it is fully charged, battery suddenly within a second drops to 95% or sometimes to 97%. Is this normal??
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
Seems like you and I have the same issue. I was hoping someone could answer us as to why it may happen?

I just flashed back to stock to see how the wireless orb behaves with it vs CM10.1 or diff kernel.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/26/lg-worlds-smallest-wireless-charger-qi/

Looks cool. Especially with all these problems with the Orb!

Sent from my Nexus4™
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
We now have 3 orbs that successfully hold on to two phones. One with the Rinkie Fusion or whatever.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dawiyo:
I use it with the included charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diablos991:
Has anybody tried paring the Google QI charger with a higher amperage charger?

I was wondering if using a 2.1 amp charger would increase the wireless charging rate.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vorshim92:
when will be available to buy on UK Playstore?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaPhang:
Depends on the load

I don't know what kind of circuit is in the adapter, whether there is a current limiting circuit of 1.8A or 2.1A or whatever inside, but I think they are rating the adapter and wires to go no higher than say 1.8A, otherwise something will start to burn.

The coil in the orb has a specific load, that is impedance, so the current draw will be pretty much be fixed. It think it is the phone that stops pulling current once it is charged, the phone determines how much current it is going to draw, but the max is 1A on the phone side, 1.8A on the orb side, due to some power loss.

So my answer to your question, would be no, it will still pull whatever it can up the phone's current limiting circuit which is 1.8A of the adapter side.

Someone, please clarify, I think you need to know the circuits involve to know for sure.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diablos991:
That clears things up a bit. I guess the question I am really trying to get at is with the Qi standard. I am curious if the limiting factor is in the phone, the wireless circuitry, or the charger. I have seen wireless chargers that have an abysmal actual charging rate of 400 ma or less, and I see the nexus orb charging at a 1 amp.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
Has anyone tried to mod the charging orb to add magnets to it to help line up the phone?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyijedi:
Same here. I see the same effect using my Energizer Qi charger as well. I think it's normal. As far as effects on day-to-day use, I plan on using the wired charger to charge my phone before going out for a long day when needed.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
I was looking to see if anybody had done a teardown on the orb. I didn't find one yet, but I did find these cool x-ray images of the orb and the phone:

http://imgur.com/a/l9WXS
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerdoesntrun:
Mine never charges fully, it just tops out at 93 or 95 or whatever it feels like that day, but it still says "charging". It's really unnerving, because I'm afraid it's going to overcharge or something.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
I was just going to post this. Its 6:40 AM and I noticed yet again that overnight, the phone stayed "Charging" by the Icon, but on the lock screen and quick settings it showed Charged.

If I remove it from the charge, within a few minutes, it drops to 99%.

I think I am now going to just forget about percentages and go by it saying charged. Remove it as soon as it says charged.

P.S. I went back to stock 4.2.2 from CM10 to see if its an issue with CM10.1 or just generic.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urinsane:
Let me know how stock goes. I've been loving my orb but just noticed it hadn't charged at all after about an hour of "charging" on the orb. Phone indicated charging, battery info screen shows that it was charging the whole time, but battery level stayed exactly the same as when I put it on the charger (40%).

This is the first time I have noticed it happening to me and I'm not happy. Not completely ready to blame Google/LG as I am running a nightly of a very customized ROM. I'll keep testing for now but it will be interesting to see if custom Roms make a difference.

If it is the charger I will be very disappointed. No issues with phone sliding, battery generally charges quickly. But failing to do the one thing it was made for would be unacceptable.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1ggyn1ce:
had the orb for 14 days..glad I called tech support and will be able to send it back in time for a refund. The 1st week was great, today it started slipping repeatedly. Got no time to fix it or get a replacement, I figure I'll have the same problems w/future orbs. If ur 15 days are almost up and ur having problems, I suggest get ur $ back immediately to save future headaches. Only gripe is the 15% restocking fee.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmyz:
How can they justify a restocking fee. Its defective!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
A few points to all the guys in the same boat as I am.

1. I think its more of a software related matter. I am not saying its an "Issue", but I think if they implement a way to handle the charge displaying correctly, then we should be ok.

2. Stock was behaving the same way, so it leads me to believe its overall the code rather than the device.

3. The Wireless ORB stops the charging once it detects a FULL charge, then runs on the battery, so once the battery goes down to 99%, it starts charging once again.

4. I noticed that it goes to 100%, then as soon as I turn the screen ON, its "Charged" without the lightning bolt icon on the battery, a fraction of a second later, its the Lightning bolt showing charging. Phone status shows Charging (Wireless), but Widgets, Quick Settings and Lock screen show charged.

5. I pull the phone off the ORB, and maybe 5 minutes or so later, its down to 99%.

6. I think for now, once the battery charges to 100%, we should remove it from the ORB. It makes it safer to ensure we are not Bump Charging or Over Charging our batteries.

Here are my .2 cents. After days of experimenting, this is what I will follow until someone wiser could advise otherwise.

:)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nba1341:
no one here knows what trickle charging is or what a battery tender is? this orb is not over charging your battery
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elsydeon:
Most Android phones nowdays will bounce between 99-100 once it's fully charged, so that's nothing unusual, and it's supposed to be better for the battery longevity. It does this on the regular USB cable too. What is a bit more unusual is seeing it dip down below 99 before bouncing back to 100, I saw that happening with the one I had where it would use the battery down to 97 or so before charging back to 100.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpookyTunes:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't putting magnets next to a smartphone with a compass a bad idea?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pheno.menon:
My phone drops to 99-98-97 fairly quickly after being taken off the orb too.

I have stopped worrying about it as the battery seems to stabilize after that.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
Yes, correct, it does stabilize after that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan40hands:
Putting magnets next to any electronic device is likely a bad idea...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
For the Magnet idea to work, the phone should also have magnets to be able to make the bond. Without that, no point in adding magnets anywhere.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manalf:
This. Not a huge fan of putting magnets near/around any electronic device - wouldn't it mess with at least the GPS?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
For those concerned about magnets near the phone, the phone already has magnets in it. The pod was originally designed to be magnetic, it was just removed for some unknown reason.

It does have magnets, that's why this dock works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut6LzQSiAlM
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
The phone doesn't have magnets in it. It does, however, have a metal plate that is ferrous (so responds to magnets).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
Aw snap, yeah, you're totally correct, my bad.

Anyhow yeah the magnets might interfere with the compass a bit when it's docked, but I don't mind if that happens when it'd charging on my desk, haha.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] windrose:
Are a lot of people unsatisfied with their orbs? I was planning on ordering it once it became available in my country...

The battery dropping a few percents immediately upon removal from charger should be normal since the phone should stop charging once it reaches 100%...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
Hard to say. Certainly some people seem to be having issues, and have posted about it. I'm perfectly satisfied with it myself, no problems at all.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elwilson4:
I initially had charging issues but was remedied by using the included charger plug and cable. Now I'm completely satisfied and have ordered another. It is out for delivery as I type this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarsh92:
No problem here. Had it over a week. Just use the charger and cable that comes with it. I'm lovin mine do far. No slippage, using the ringke fusion case.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nskowyra:
I have been using mine for about a week. I am starting to notice slippage... not sure if cleaning the orb's face helps. I have heard it does.

For the first week it was real grippy. I loved it at first, now I am having my doubts.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trueblueram:
Orb works fine for me. But then I was resigned to the fact that it's just a cool accessory. Not a magic lantern
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
I have 3 now (night stand for me, for the girlfriend and one for the desk at work) using with two phones and they have worked perfectly. Charges reliably and no slippage.

Seeing as how the Palm Touchstone had magnets and it still worked I dont think GPS or anything of the like had anything to do with the decision.

If anything it might be something to do with Qi certification, since the touchstone uses different tech. I think I am still going to work on building a magnetic car mount with Qi charging. I have some compact rare earth magnets (aka small but powerful) that could be shoehorned into a mount.

Properly calibrated I cant see any normal magnets confusing the compass/gps. They build these things to deal with magnetic fields. Hell, the Qi charging is basically creating a localized EMF in order to charge the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Josh16061:
I don't see the issue people are having with the slippage. I use the DBrand black leather skin (the slippery one) and still don't have a problem. I have had it since the first ones shipped and have wiped the face with a damp cloth once to get the collected pocket lint off of it. Never been an issue. <shrug>
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webvictim:
I'm having big problems with slippage on my orb - the phone has no case or protector or anything on the back, it's just standard. When I put the phone on the orb, it charges for about a couple of minutes but you can almost see it slipping down. When it gets beyond a certain point it just stops charging - had a couple of days where I woke up with a flat phone and just thought that the charger was broken, but upon watching it there seems to be an issue with slippage.

Considering sending the orb back or selling it to someone in a country who can't order one yet. I just don't think it's for me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidamos77:
AW: Wireless charging Orb

IMHO it would be better for the battery, if the phone would draw power from the charger after fully charging, not from the battery. This way, there would be no extra discharging/charging cycles for the battery.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knolly:
Are you this guy from Reddit that is making it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Q.Entity:
Have 2 orbs.One at home and one at my office. No slippage, works perfectly. Got mine from the first batch so it has been a bit over 2 weeks.

Skickat från min Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
With all those people saying its working perfectly for them, not considering the slipping, hows the charge holding up? Does it drop to 99% or 98% for you guys?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
I haven't looked, and to be honest, I'm not sure I care whether it says 98% or 99% or 100% when I pick it up and put it in my pocket every morning.

Edit...I just pulled it off the orb and see this:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobdude:
I still have not picked up an orb yet but wanted to make a suggestion and get some results before I do. Due to the slipping we ask know the glass on the back is very slippery. So has anyone washed the orb and the back of the phone with something that will cut through grease/oil? A mild soap should work on a damp cloth.

This is all based on the theory that water and grease/oil will not mix and only a detergent or soap can cut through it. And the fact that finger prints are made from.... You guessed it... Oil. Any thoughts?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
Thanks for your inputs, but could you check and let the phone sit idle for a few minutes longer, maybe 20 minutes or so?

The first few minutes, mine stays at 100% (sometimes). I dont use the phone as I just slip it in my pocket so the screen isnt on.

But after getting the car 5-10 minutes later, its 99% or 98%.

Just wiped it yesterday with a damp cloth. Its tacky once again just like new. I have a dog, so the hair folicals and dust does settle up quite a bit on the device.

Just have on Gadget Shieldz (similar to BSE, Zagg, Skinomi, xtreme guard, etc.)

But it stuck fine with Diztronic and Ringke cases as well.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdelfin:
Orb is good, long live the Orb.

The following have been said before, but I think is important to emphasize, so one last time:

"Issue (A)": If you are experiencing lengthy recharge times, most likely is because you are

not

using the USB cable and plug that came with the ORB. Make sure you do and that you use them connected to a mains outlet (as opposed to a USB laptop/PC port). There, first "issue" solved.

"Issue (B)": Slippage. This phone, the way is built, with the glass back and all, is meant for a case. Use a case. You'll be doing your self a big favor. ORB works noticeable better with a cased phone and its grasp is significantly sturdier than without a case. No slippage. Charging is not affected. There, second "issue" solved.

With the 2 recommendations above, you'll find the Orb to be a fantastic addition to your phone and overtime a great improvement on your day-to-day experience using the N4. ;)

Addendum: as a third [optional but very wise] recommendation, I'd suggest to find a way to have your Orb stick to the surface where it's placed on (either by using sticky pads, or something), so you don't have to use both hands when picking up the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
I haven't done that yet, but 1%-2% over 20 minutes--or 3%-6% per hour in other words--isn't that pretty much the amount of battery power any Android phone uses normally?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhruvmalik:
Certainly not. If we are speaking in terms of IDLE (Stand By) time, while the device is in deep sleep, it shouldnt consume more than 1 - 2 % per hour.

I am currently seeing 1.2% drain per hour with mild use. The purpose is to not see what the battery consumption is, it is to see whether after removing the device from the ORB, does the battery drop? If so, it seems that its not taking a FULL charge.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] incantevole:
Agree with A. Mine charges the phone from single digits percent to full in under the four hour window. that includes taking some calls and texting.

disagree with B. the phone is fantastic without a case. i've had mine since early december and not a flaw on it. even spent some time at the beach. i do have the official bumper on it. ruins the feel a bit but i want to set the phone down anyplace i want. also keep my pants pocket from rubbing on the glass. my phone doesn't slip off the orb either. i would call google, complain and get a replacement. if your phone is slipping then the orb isn't functioning as it is designed.

in regards to the addendum, an opposable thumb makes it simple to get the phone off the orb. :D:D:D my phone will pick up the orb if i let it. haven't plugged my phone in since i got the orb.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
This probably won't help people much who already have the orb, but for those just getting it. I left the protective film on, and the phone doesn't slip off until it's tilted nearly straight upright. I do have a wet apply protector on the back of the phone too. I think I'm just going to leave it like this permanently; no slippage, no resistance to pulling it straight off, the plastic film will dust off nicely, so no issues with cleaning.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vorshim92:
only the orbcharger from playstore works with nexus4?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarjar124:
No. Any qi charger works. Except Nokia..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KevinChaos:
And JBL...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImSherlocked:
Yesterday while cleaning my desk my mom kept the orb upside down. It caught some dust. Today morning when I was trying charge the phone, it won't stick on the orb at all. I had never faced slipping issue before. It was as if orb had lost magnetism. I cleaned the orb and thumped it with my palm :P and after sometime it regained it's magnetism. Weird.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
IT'S NOT A MAGNET! Jezz
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andreas.d:
Has anyone tried to open up the Charging Orb and put a NFC tag inside it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
Yeah well it never had magnetism, it uses friction. I'm not sure it can use magnets either, since charging is also done magnetically?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TaintedByte:
Physically my orb is great. No slipping, nothing wrong with it. Just make sure it's clean. I've only cleaned it once in the two week's I've had it, use a lint roller like someone suggested. It's quick and it will take away all the dust on it.

My problem is with the wakelock caused by the software when wireless charging is being used. I read early on in this thread that people were having issues with it but the discussion dissipated on it. Did someone find a fix elsewhere? Searching only yielded this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2156397

It only contains confirmation of the wakelock caused by PowerManagerService.WirelessChargerDetector but no fix. Is anyone else having this issue preventing their phone from going into deep sleep?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snapper.fishes:
Which part of his sarcasm did you fail to grasp?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webvictim:
Just given the orb a good wipe-down with a damp cloth then dried it with a tea towel - done the same to the phone as well. I've put the phone on now and it feels a lot more secure, far more like it's going to stay there for a long time and charge properly rather than sliding off. It's actually an effort to put pressure on the phone and try and slide it down against the orb now, so I guess the dust buildup does make a really big difference.

It'll be a bit frustrating if I have to keep cleaning my orb every few days, I'd literally had it under a week when the problem started.

To anyone saying "just get a case", that really isn't the point. I bought the phone to use it as is, most cases make phones look chunky and unappealing in my opinion and given that I'm very careful with my phones, I don't need the protective aspect. If the orb is being sold for use then it should work with a stock phone and not require some kind of aftermarket case to function properly. Just my two cents.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
What are you doing to get your orb dirty so quickly? I haven't cleaned the one on my night stand since I got it and it still holds on like day one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astrall:
Just ordered mine. I hope it doesn't have any issues.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prasadudwadia:
Woah didnt realise its released. Got one ordered just now :)

THANKS XDA
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnIXmA:
Just got mine and I am fairly impressed with the orb. Looks great and does the job too.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wandering_hare:
I've raised a bug for this issue (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=52034). Hope it will get resolved soon. Anyways, having some extra stars on the issue may help with additional attention from the developers.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
Getting fed up with Google... Treat Europe like crap... Still no sign in the UK :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
My phone is sleeping fine, despite that wakelock showing in BBS.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xordo:
Yes there are magnets in Orb

A new orb from the factory (new in box and no prior owner)

does indeed have working and strong magnets underneath the inner rubber circle.

However there *MAY* be a design flaw.

See Google+ Nexus Community post below (copy and paste below item into browser):

plus.google.com/111153241245614620419/posts/9cKYjP23qqE

More testing and a tear down may be necessary. But the concept is as simple as something kids learn playing around after school.

Heat de-magnetizes permanent magnets.

The Nexus Orb / Nexus 4 while charging generates lots of heat.

The Qi coil itself likely gets much hotter than the phone battery internals or to the human touch of the screen.

That hot Qi coil sits right between and near the permanent magnets.

It would seem that a single very hot charging session or multiple extremely warm charging sessions de-magnetizes the permanent magnets designed to hold the Nexus in place and keep it from falling off the orb.

Not to smart to use stabilizing magnets that close to a strong heat source.

Any kid who tosses a refrigerator magnet in a Medium High heated pot of water knows - the magnet no longer works....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
There are no magnets in the Orb ffs.