yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
His roms are set up to run the cache wipe scripts automatically during a flash.. so yes it is doing a fix perm..

AND while i agree he is talented, I would not call him the best on our device. Especially when guys like whitehawx are around.. or Eugene.. or any of the other guys who have been around for YEARS.. but thats an opinion..

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again.. your spreading incorrect information and someone should take this information down.. Im glad you've been here a whopping year longer than I.. I have also owned several devices and have done a cache wipe and a fix perm after flashing since the beginning and it has NEVER cause an issue..

INFACT most of the time people report a boot loop the first thing they are told is to do a reboot and wipe cache and fix permission and it usually fixes the boot loop..

And here is an example from a different Devs thread ptmr, whos jedi roms are very popular..

Instructions

TWRP Recovery Recommended!

ALWAYS FULL WIPE!

-Download ROM

-Backup your apps with preferred method(app2zip is great)

-Nandroid

-Wipe data ( factory data reset)

-Wipe system (Format system (in mounts/storage) if on CWM)

-Flash ROM

-Wipe cache/Dalvik

-Fix Permissions

-(USE DARKSIDE CACHE SCRIPT IF STILL ON CWM RECOVERY)

-Boot system and DO NOT TOUCH FOR 10 MIN

-After the 10 min, reboot phone and enjoy the Mind Trick

-DO NOT RESTORE DATA!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
Yes, TDJs super wipe formats and wipes cache BEFORE ROM installation, not afterwards.

Like I said to each his own :D whatever works for you.

Also this info doesn't need to be taken down. Maybe those flashing steps apply to the Jedi ROMs specifically, because of you check all the other ROMs these steps aren't listed as necessary. Only the current crop of TW ROMs. So we both may be correct and in the end it probably doesn't matter. I've flashed the Jedi ROMs myself and didn't do anything other than flashing the superwipe script, flashing the ROM and reboot. No issues. The step might just be a precautionary measure.I know for a fact that with AOSP based ROMs the step is unnecessary. You don't even need to wait the initial 10 minute time like with TW ROMs either lol. Like I said whatever works for ya works man.

Happy flashing folks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
Ill agree with you when it comes to that waiting ten minutes thing.. I personally think its a myth..

but you still get a few of these.. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And im sorry, im not trying to argue with you.. But neither you nor I are a dev, we are just flashers who have much knowledge.

Point being a cache wipe and a fix perm is not required, but WILL prevent issues and CAN NOT IN ANY WAY cause a problem.. your OP is wrong and should be edited to reflect that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
Haha you just made me remember a specific part of my claims I didn't mention. I should have clarified. I'm talking about flashing TDJs wipe cache immediately after flashing a ROM. I've done this myself and came up with boot loops. Which is probably due to CWM 6.0.1.4 AND 6.0.1.5s intolerance for the fixes TDJ included to fix the crap CWM 5.0.2.7 couldn't get done =D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PJcastaldo:
Which brings back the main point of your thread.. I am telling you that these kinds of scripts are not only made for our device, but many others as well. The reason those specific recovery's don't flash them properly is because they are borked...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
Nah the problem with the scripts isn't the scripts themselves. They're awesome! Who wouldn't want a on click solution to wiping their partitions? Its the fixes TDJ included to fix CWM 5.0.2.7s faults, which have been fixed in CWM 6+, which is why they cause issues. TWRP is immune to these fixes and they work perfectly. So to any users out there, if you have CWM 6+, do t use the wipes. Any TWRP users, the scripts work perfectly well and won't ruin anything. Thanks for helping me clarify that Castaldo. The recoveries used with our phones are very different and call for different flashing instructions. Which is the point to my post. Devs, please clarify this! And your threads won't be full of crazy issues that can easily be avoided lol

I'm busy working on some beer and liquor with friends ATM. Gonna get back to that lol

enjoy your weekend and happy flashing folks!

I'll fix the OP with these new changes ASAP.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bzlik88:
The more you guys debate, the more we learn. I'm trying to think of a way to feed the fire.... lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
:) feel free.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
What about the people who are on cwm 5. They need those instructions. There really isnt a catch all solution other than people reading before they flash and understanding when they should use those scripts or not.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
Well this is up to developers to post on their OPs.
[Nexus 4 General] Jrude2262:
Since everyone complaining about the nexus 4 only offering 16gb as its max.

Name your current phone,

If your using a micro sd card in conjunction with your internal memory how much is it????

How much space you have available in your internal and external (if your using an SD card)

And in a few words what are you using your memory for (remember you do not have go into details just the bare minimum)

Phone: Samsung Galaxy S 2

SD card: 8GB

Internal: 3.92

External: 4.57

I have about 700mb worth of apps, app data...etc, 1.17gb worth of pictures and 3.80gb of music and SD is an complete copy of internal just in case of anything
[Nexus 4 General] jacklebott:
On my Xperia Play where most of my data is (cuz my backflip sucks):

/data: 111MB/380MB used

/system: 144MB/312MB used

SD card: 11.2GB/29.47GB used

SDext: 210MB/228MB used
[Nexus 4 General] GR36:
I am running duel boot on my s3. Have about 3 rom zips on here. All my pictures and about 170 apps and still 6gb left.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
S3

External SD 8gb (0 left)

Internal 16gb (4gb left)
[Nexus 4 General] Jordanooo:
Xperia Play

32gb memory card. Literally jam packed full now. To be fair, most of that is junk...
[Nexus 4 General] Mesho Arc:
Xperia arc 16GB external SD Card, 10GB Free, 2GB worth of Pics & Vids, rest are mixed stuff
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
S3

External SD 64gb (29 left)

Internal 16gb (8gb left)

But I am uploading all my songs to google music + gonna use more cloud service. Data won't be problem cause I am getting T-mobile unlimited but little bit worried about the battery life when 4G will be on most of the time.
[Nexus 4 General] CJHolderUK:
32GB SD Card - Full

However because I'm in the UK and we're getting Play Music I will be using GiffGaffs £10 (Soon to be £12) Goody Bag for unlimited data and using their (Googles) Cloud services. Play Music, Play Movies, YouTube etc :) This will free up about 20GBs of Video and Music.
[Nexus 4 General] danielsf:
Galaxy s3

16gb internal memory (500mb left)

32gb micro sd card (4gb left)

But as google music is coming to the UK soon and I have truly unlimited internet, 9/10gb of my music on my sd card will be streamed from google music instead.
[Nexus 4 General] Chund3r:
Inspire 4G

Internal 4 GB w/ 180 MB left.

SD Card 32 GB w/ 9GB left.

I love the Nexus 4 but the max storage being 16GB makes it impossible to use. Very disappointed in their decision to limit it, especially in 2012-2013. This is the digital age after all, and cloud storage will rape your wallet when you're phone bill comes in if your not always in range of WiFi

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G
[Nexus 4 General] efan3719:
HTC Evo 3D

Internal Storage:

873 MB/1.15 GB

Card:

6.76 GB/9.83 GB

it's a 16 GB card but partitioned for apps and such.

so yeah. plenty of space. 16 GB Nexus 4 should do just fine for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Spitfire:
I've got 23 available on my GS2 with 16 internal and 32 card, so I'm using about 25GB.
[Nexus 4 General] qreffie:
I think a lot of complaints are coming from people new to the Nexus line. I had the same concerns when I switched from my Vibrant to the Nexus S two years ago which actually had less than 16GB because of the partitions with system/internal storage. Currently I have a 16GB Galaxy Nexus with about 1GB left. About 2GB are music files I want to have on the phone in case there are connection issues. Pictures and Video take up another 3GB and most of that stuff needs to be sorted through and moved onto my main pictures/videos folder on my computer. Games and other applications take up the lion's share of space on my phone.

It did take a little getting used to at first, but you can easilly manage on just 16. I've been doing it for two years now. A friend of mine was going off about it not having a SD slot and how that was bad, then he said he had a 16GB in his phone because the phone itself only had 500MB internal storage. I lol'd so hard.
[Nexus 4 General] Cirkustanz:
System: 1.12g total 769 available

Completely BS "Internal Storage" 1.4g total, 450mb available

MicroSD card, 59.46g total (64g card formatted of course) 6.28g available.

So no, 16g doesn't cut it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139193

That's a 16g microsd card, for $10. And they sell it for $50.
[Nexus 4 General] riko540:
I have 587MB free on my internal storage out of 8XXMB. I'm only using a little over 5GB on my SD card. I have pretty much migrated everything to the cloud so a 16GB Nexus 4 is perfect. I'd go with the 8GB version but that would cut it close.

Sent from my ADR6300
[Nexus 4 General] Kookas:
Internal flash is not the same as an SD card.

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[Nexus 4 General] Riyal:
Screenshot should answer :D So... no google nexus 4 for me. *sigh* :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] masondoctorjt:
View attachment 1447362

Yeah, 16gb won't cut it for me either.
[Nexus 4 General] MatUK.8:
I can guarantee that most people don't use 75% of what they have stored on their phones. I am using about 3gb for apps and I don't use most of them and never will. A bunch of Amazon apps of the day or games I don't ever play. If you just got organized you could make 16gb work and it would be well worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] AgentBEATS:
Phone: Desire Z

Internal: 479.3MB/1.1GB

SD Card: 6.6GB/14.4GB

Don't really know what's on my SD Card, but I know for a fact that I won't need more than the 8GB model. I don't really get the complaint for more storage space.

Want movies/tv shows? Store 2-3 at a time, it's not like you can watch them all at once.

Music? I have 40GB of music, and that's being conservative as I haven't retrieved all my songs from my old computer which would bring it to over 100GB. Short of a iPod Classic, I'm not carrying all my music anyways. Why not sync a few playlists/albums at a time, again you can't listen to them all the time.

Apps? How many apps do you really use? Same with games. Your phone can still fit a few large games and have space left. Although I have a Nexus 7 for games, so I have less to complain about.

All and all, 8GB is enough for me. I can see why people would rather opt for the 16GB, and I would have preferred a 32GB for myself, but really it seems like people are just searching for a reason not to buy this amazing phone.
[Nexus 4 General] kcls:
Phone: Virgin Mobile Optimus V

SD card: 8GB

Internal: 150/150mb used. Yup... I only have 150 mb of storage on the internal memory. That's why I think I'll be fine with the 8gb nexus.

External: ~5gb used out of 8. And half of that is unused nandroids, apks, and the gallery thumbnail cache.

Yeah, I think I'll be fine with the 8gb.
[Nexus 4 General] Jasonhunterx:
Internal 16 GB 1 GB left music collection is serious
[Nexus 4 General] Cusa:
I'm using only 200mb because most of my stuff is in dropbox.
[Nexus 4 General] android addicts:
I have 16 GB micro SD card and it almost 13GB full. I download torrents to my mobile ( using home WiFi connection). Currently there's two movies in it.

My SD 9 GB songs, 3.5 GB asphalt 7 & 6 and other game files (approximately). If I have nexus 4, I'll purchase more powerful games (Nova, Modern combat 3, Mass effect, etc). 16 GB not enough, if there's 32 and 64GB its superb. I don't think Google consider these days new apps data size before plan these devices storage.

They introduced nexus 7, 32GB version, because of amazon introduced 32GB Kindel fire HD. Not considering customers needs.

My country play store music not support, not have good data plans for online streaming .
[Nexus 4 General] accordex:
I have 16 plus 16... 12 left on phone 8 left on sd all music and most android apps are under 20 megs ...photos go to dropbox

the whole ext sd card thing simply boils down to you either need it or you don't...theese phones have been around long enough where you should know by now
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Galaxy S III 16GB Storage Breakdown:

Apps: 800MB

Pictures and videos: 750MB

Downloads: 400MB

Misc. (ROM nightlies and TiBu files mostly): 1.36GB

Free space on internal SD? 7.85GB

I thought maybe I could get away with the 8GB Nexus 4 but I doubt I will spring for it.. $50 more but it will increase the resale value if Google does something similar to what they did and obsolete the 8GB model fairly quickly.
[Nexus 4 General] quarksurfer:
i have a gnex, I'm currently using less than 4GB. I can't imagine using over 8. all my music is streamed from google music and spotify premium. I download playlists to the phone before road trips, but i'm always updating that. I can see filling it up with pics and video i shoot, but not tv and movies or games.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
Wow, once you get the Nexus, its going to be a quantum leap from your current device.

On my previous Vibrant, I max out both my internal 16GB storage and 32GB sdcard. If there's space, I will use it.
[Nexus 4 General] kcls:
Oh, I know! I'm so excited for this thing. I'm tired if my phone having so little memory that whenever I switch processes my music running in the background skips. This is going to be freaking amazing.

Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
[Nexus 4 General] mrbkkt1:
Sensation, 6.5 gigs out of my 8 gig card. 1 nandroid, and a full titanium backup.

To be fair, most of my videos, including movies are on my tablet.
[Nexus 4 General] wobrim:
iPhone 4 32Gb

I got 8Gb free right now.

I probably could free up some free space as I got around 3000 pictures/movies on the phone, never deleted any pictures that I have taken since i bought it on the releaseday.

But one thing that requires space is Spotify and the offline playlists.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
Welcome to XDA and Android.
[Nexus 4 General] raze599:
Desire HD.

Internal storage - 1.13GB

Apps (Internal storage) - 572MB

SD Card - 16GB (14.83GB usable) - 3.25GB Available

Dunno where the heck all that space went dont have more than 5 or 6GB of mp3's. Probably ROM backups and everything.

16GB on the Nexus 4 is perfectly fine for me.
[Nexus 4 General] blackfootthedude:
Sensation

8GB SD card

90MB left
[Nexus 4 General] Kookas:
I'm betting on a 32GB coming at around Christmas. It'll propel the N4 back into the media just as people are getting out their wallets.

So before hastily going and grabbing some other phone, I'd wait it out a few months.

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[Nexus 4 General] Jrude2262:
Its crazy how many ppl are have 32gb n 64gb micros n barely have any space lol bet most of them aren't even using all that content
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
1gb pics / videos taken from cam

200mb music

2 gb movies/tv episodes

8gb clockwork recovery backup

4gb app back from titanium backup

32 gb sd card class 6.
[Nexus 4 General] Riyal:
Wow I'm quite shocked never expected people from xda community to not really utilize their phone's storage to their limit.

And looks like I won the most used storage in a mobile phone criteria here being 11GB left out of a 64GB sdcard.
[Nexus 4 General] jaju123:
I have used 1.5 GB of 15 GB or so. I see no need to have anything on my phone at all except for a few apps which are like 10mb maximum.
[Nexus 4 General] highvista:
Phone: Galaxy Nexus US GSM

Internal storage total: 16GB

Internal used: 6.08GB

Internal free: 7.3GB

External storage: 64GB flash drive

External used: 50GB

External free: 9GB

I have no media on my internal storage. I keep a lot of the internal free for Nandroid backups.

My music is stored on an external flash drive mounted via USB OTG.
[Nexus 4 General] eternityends:
Phone: Samsung Captivate CM10

Internal storage total: 16GB

Internal used: 3.8GB

Internal free: 12.2GB

External storage: 16GB MicroSD

External used: 0GB

External free: 16GB

Looks like I should be selling that MicroSD card soon :P
[Nexus 4 General] catfish7:
HTC Desire HD

Internal memory: 1gb left 150mb

External memory: 16gb left
[Nexus 4 General] gazoo2010:
LG Optimus G

10.57gb left on Board

35.44 Left on my 64GB SD Card
[Nexus 4 General] celular34:
its very little

phone incredible but this memory is very little
[Nexus 4 General] christophicer:
To the cloud.
[Nexus 4 General] Initial_G:
S3 with internal 16gb (5.98 left) and external sd 2gb (1.67 left).
[Nexus 4 General] ucubz:
Xperia Arc

SD Card 58% free

total 28.78GB Used 11.90GB Free 16.88GB

Internal

total 380MB Used 328MB Free 52.15MB

well, just that. never have gigabytes games, too afraid to download that.. so no prob having nexus 4 for me
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
GSM Galaxy Nexus:

Apps: 1.84GB

Pictures: 445MB

Audio: 3.60GB (I have tons of FLAC/320 on my computer, and add and remove music accordingly. I hate having to sort through a bunch of music.)

Misc: 500MB

I have one or two nandroid backups saved, but I don't really care if I have to wipe data.

Available: 3.99GB.

16GB is more than sufficient for me, and when I had the option to use an SD card on my EVO 4g LTE, I didnt.
[Nexus 4 General] ashenwreck:
I use about 11gb total. Have 1.31gb internal space and a 32gb card.

Have no video on my phone at all, for the record.
[Nexus 4 General] kefloxin:
I think 8 GB would be enough for me. But the thing with 8 GB is that it's not actually 8 GB in reality usually, it's usually around 5.2 GB - 6 GB in reality. Just because of that, I have to get the 16 GB version :(
[Nexus 4 General] jnewman1991:
When I still had my GS3 I had almost 3GB in apps, about 2GB in backups, and 4GB everywhere else (Mainly ROMs and the free Avengers movie). My SD card had 10GB of music on it. Going with the 16GB Nexus since I plan on using it for at least a year and uploaded all my music to Google and plan on streaming it all since I'm always in an area with wifi.
[Nexus 4 General] haydonxda:
Galaxy Nexus w/16GB

I have about 11GB free and the space is insufficient. (Wha? No, really, read on.) It only has that much space free because I completely gave up on using the phone to store music and audio. I have an iPod classic that's got about 100GB of files on it.

If I had a phone with a microSD card I'd be more selective about the audio books and trim things down to 64GB. That's what I'd really wish the microSD card would be used for - media. I could care less about trying to move apps to it. I just want to put media files on there.
[Nexus 4 General] urmothersluvr:
I think 16gb will definitely work. I have a 16gb micro sdcard
[Nexus 4 General] Guzanni:
6.39 GB available on my intern sd card. So it will be the 16GB version for me, no problem :)
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I see some of you people are still storing your life's work on your smartphone phone(s).
[Nexus 4 General] urmothersluvr:
Lol I use my phone as a computer so I have all my music, pictures and other documents on it
[Nexus 4 General] Riyal:
Better of storing it there than storing it in a cloud storage. It's way more secure there and easily accessible anytime than any other types of medium(even PCs).
[Nexus 4 General] thos25:
I could likely get an 8Gb but I will stick with the 16. More or less because if I go to sell it later it will likely have a better resale.

Currently I have like 9.xx something space available. But I have no music stored and rely heavily on the cloud. I also tend not to play games so I don't have and large games stored. Though I do sometimes have GTA3, mc3, nova, and some deer Hunter challenge games I will install from time to time.

When I install a game or two and a decent amount of music I get down to almost no space. Try adding a nandroid to that...forget about it.

So, I'm going with the 16 for sure.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I'm using about 5GB of my 16GB card, so think I could slim down enough to use the actual capacity of the 8GB, but will get the 16GB, more than enough space for me.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I got over 40 gig on my s3 right now and I use about 3 gig lol.. (pictures and video) could delete them as their all on Dropbox too. I use Google music so no songs stored on phone.
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
After Clearing all my junk , i have 8Gb left of a 16gb card + i have old cwm backups and titanium backup. which will be useless on nexus 4 will equal to 4gb.! also pics are goin to comp which leds to a grand total of!!! 3GB! .. wow and i was worried i needed 32gb.! lol
[Nexus 4 General] broons:
Droid Incredible

Internal: 6.56gb available out of 8

SD: 8.1gb available out of 16

Have had the SD since my og droid days and rarely delete anything off it. 16gb n4 is more than enough space for my needs.
[Nexus 4 General] desarenezitic:
HTC Desire:

Internal 148MB (lol) hovers around 50MB free if you keep cache cleared

SD Card 8GB:

EXT 4 partition 1GB currently ~370MB used (apps + Dalvik Cacahe)

Remaining 6.43GB currently using 1.77GB or so (for photo's, videos etc)

I know I have one CWM backup on there and a ROM zip at least. Yeah 8GB version should do me fine :D
[Nexus 4 General] gbohm:
galaxy nexus 12gb/16gb

nexus 7 14gb/16gb

all in all 16gb seems ok for me

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[Nexus 4 General] radeon962:
AT&T Galaxy S3

Device: 12.05 GB - 9.03 GB availble

SD Card: 15.41 GB - 14.53 available

I don't have music on the phone and have yet to transfer any movies over to it so even 16GB total would be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Currently 5.5GB out of the One X's 32GB,
[Nexus 4 General] woody296:
i forget and less around my wife.:cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] Higgsy:
7gb internal and 11gb of a 16gb micros sd card on my note. Got load of ROMS and stuff within that which can be cleared out though.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
atrix 16 gb internal and 16 SD

3 gb free in internal -- about 9 gb music rest is pics/video from camera and random app data and some documents/stuffs I use from time to time

500 mb free in external -- a bunch of my favourite tv shows/movies like yes minister/yes prime minister, QI, sherlock etc. I use the mini hdmi port about once or twice a month

Ideally i'd like 32 or 64 gb but I'm pretty sure i could live with 16
[Nexus 4 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
S2 with 16 gb internal and 32 gb external. Thousands of photos, videos, songs and other stuff..

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[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
HTC One X - Currently using about 2GB of the '32GB'

Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Currently using about 2GB of the '16GB'

Both devices hold the same information
[Nexus 4 General] raf2k:
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S3

SD card: 16GB

Internal: 1.3

External: 9.1

Music from Spotify takes almost all my internal memory. On SD card I have photos, camera videos, flac files and few TV shows.
[Nexus 4 General] ianford10:
Samsung Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
Might need to lose some weight.
[Nexus 4 General] Halfilled:
Samsung Galaxy S2

Internal Storage: 2.78GB Available (16GB Version)

External Storage: 13.26 GB Available (32 GB SD CARD)
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
HTC One X using 10GB out of 25GB available.
[Nexus 4 General] kindiboy:
GN 16GB

Used = 3GB
[Nexus 4 General] @home:
Note 2

SD - 64GB - Used 32GB

Int Mem - 16Gb - Used 6GB

Nexus 4 - Needs more storage...

I'm sure there will be a 64GB in January.
[Nexus 4 General] xploder270:
Same for me.

8GB of free space would be fine but if there's only 5-6GB available it just doesn't cut it.
[Nexus 4 General] MrBelter:
Xperia S and I have 11GB free out of 32GB.