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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mancubus99:
I gave the developer and the app the benefit of the doubt from the beginning. I posted my findings here and in the App forum in order to get as much help as possible and also to warn others that use the app of a potential data leakage problem. Even after repeated conversations with the developer of the app with no success, it was a user on these boards that eventually helped to solve the problem. I didn't see you offering any words of wisdom to help solve this problem so STFU!

Anyhow I posted the update in the first thread and the title will be changed to reflect that. Thank you to those who actually had something meaningful to contribute.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jesusice:
I saw your question when it was first posted and ignored it knowing that it was user error. And now your OP says the problem is Titanium, but it's not. It's you. Don't restore system data, it's a basic Android law.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatfishycell:
Happened to me too, anyone know how to reset the data usage?

Edit: just had to remove all the files in /data/system/netstats
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
Completely discounting price, and discounting your investment in how much you have wanted this phone for ages (like everyone else) - realistically, what size storage do you NEED on this phone, to keep you happy for however long you will own the phone?

Note - this is not a "what size do you wish you could get" or "what size can you fit into and make work with adjustments" poll - it's a "what size do you really need?" poll.
[Nexus 4 General] digitalfiz:
I think that 16gb is really the sweet spot right now. If you use Google like they want you too then you don't really need much more.
[Nexus 4 General] gtalum:
I need 16 GB. I'd much prefer 32.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
If we had unlimited data I would use Good Drive, Google music, and all the other streaming/cloud services. However since data usage is limited we require larger amounts of storage.
[Nexus 4 General] hsrn:
i only need 8 gb but i will buy the 16 gb version because of price stability (resale value).
[Nexus 4 General] respider:
this.

I would like 64gb to store all photos and videos without need to upload.

And a lot of games.

I had a 32gb iphone that was always full
[Nexus 4 General] Morphling27:
I say 32gb is really a good spot. You figure with 16gb you have what...13-12ish for yourself. If i put my small music collection, approx 7gb on there, you get about 5 for other things. I never put movies on mine, but some do. That takes up a lot. I purchase a lot of games and try different apps, so having more than a handful of GB for some of these games (some are getting into the 1gb-1.5gb range) is not enough.
[Nexus 4 General] noneabove:
I feel you should throw in "would like more but 16 is fine" cause for me, I would do more with the storage the more of it I had, but with 16gb I can make due by not throwing all my music on it and also by uploading my pictures to the cloud everyday when I get home (omg wait, does anyone know if there's a way I could set up an NFC tag task to do this?? :eek:) and by not having apps i almost never use on it
[Nexus 4 General] hummer010:
It's funny - I was thinking, man, who can live with just 8GB's? It's got to be at least 16GB. And then I went and actually looked at my usage on my 16GB Nexus S. I was surprised to see that I'm using only 4.5GB's of space. Apparently I could get by just fine on 8GB. I'll probably still go for the 16GB version though.
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
32GB. I have 20GB of music which I listen to nearly all of it.

I am still going to get the N4 and just get unlimited data. Here in the UK its only another £2.90 a month which is nothing
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
This counts as "making adjustments". If you're changing the way you use it, then you are making yourself fit the device rather than having a device that fits you. If you're filling up 16GB now, then in my opinion you need 32GB. That's what this poll is about, it's not "which of what's been offered can you make do with" it''s "what do you really need".
[Nexus 4 General] pachi72:
having an 8gb=FAL..

no 32gb-FAIL
[Nexus 4 General] drraptor:
16Gb + 16Gb SD
[Nexus 4 General] noneabove:
The thing is though that I don't explicitly need 32 gb but if it were available i'd fill it with stuff that I don't actually really need, I don't need to have any music on this, I have an ipod, I don't need to keep all my pics on it, I have 120gb of home internet, its less that I have to adapt to work with 16 gb as much as i would just make use of more
[Nexus 4 General] Pragmata:
The only reason I wanted an SD card is to minimize the amount of transfer I would have to do when it comes to roms, kernels, radios, backups, etc. If I simply use the cloud for that stuff and minimize what I "need" to carry on my phone, 16GB is more than I know what to do with.

I mentioned it in another thread, my phone is just a communication device. I have a 1GB/mo data plan with Telus and I barely reach 700MB. All I do on data is stream radio(TuneIn)/music(Grooveshark) for 15 minutes each way walking to and from work. The rest of my phone usage is on wifi. I simply can't play games or watch movies on my phone, the screen is just too small to be enjoyable. So data doesn't hinder me in a way to use more storage.

My current storage use:

(Edit: Dropbox image link fail xD)

Total Space 11.25GB

1.69GB Apps

144MB Pictures, Videos

64KB Audio

265MB Downloads

7.13GB Available

Once I really got down to the nitty gritty, I got over the microSD really quick and don't need any more built in.
[Nexus 4 General] Lothaen:
all my music is in google music

I pay £10 a month to giffgaff (soon to be £12-odd) for unlimited data.

Sadly, I still have a 32GB card in my current phone of which 20GB is used :(
[Nexus 4 General] AwesomeTurtle:
Most, if not all, of my storage goes to music, and at any given time I use no more than 9gb (I have a larger library, but I only transfer stuff that I'll listen to on a regular basis). Videos occupy most of the rest, and then some games (photos go straight to my Dropbox). 16gb will definitely suffice.
[Nexus 4 General] strumcat:
Just an sd card slot. Then the whole issue disappears.
[Nexus 4 General] Ouzo:
The strength of opinion regarding storage space is amazing. Google have hit an amazing price point which I think they need a big pat on the back for, but I just wish they had created some bigger storage capacity options....maybe a 64 gig model for £100 more? That would still be a great price compared to the competition :)

It would be really interesting to know how many people use all the features of their smartphone. For example, I use mine as a kind of media pc replacement. With an MHL cable and a bluetooth keyboard with a built in mouse it rocks. My main tv is plugged into my amplifier so movies, music and games sound great - I can't believe what my little HTC Sensation is capable of. It's really nice having a lot of content on my phone so I can play what I want, when I want, where I want. Sure, if phone networks had better coverage where I live and data was cheaper I would happily use the cloud, but that's not an option for a lot of people right now. It would be great if I could put all my music (40 gigs - which is modest for someone of my age), a few tv shows, films and all my photos from my travels on one device so it's all there, all the time. And being able to add more would be great. Sadly my 64 gig card is already full, though a big chunk of that is taken up by game data (Nova 3 is 3GB alone). I had no idea I'd be playing games so much on my phone when I got it either, lol.

None of this is meant to offend anyone, it's just my humble opinion based on my usage habits.

I have my fingers crossed Google will launch more generous storage options next year.
[Nexus 4 General] aSquard:
Until you run out of room because the phone is only allocated for 2GB of apps... ;) I have that issue with my Skyrocket, so I've got a Galaxy Nexus now. The SD slot is helpful for music and pictures, that's about it unfortunately.
[Nexus 4 General] dweekie:
16 is perfectly fine now, but 32 would be preferred by far. I think this poll will be very different in the future as more people begin to fill up the memory...

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I would like your brain too. You are lucky. My brain is merely "nominal" while yours must be binned phe-nominal... :angel:
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I think for 300 bucks I could deal with the 8gb version
[Nexus 4 General] Remcotjuuh:
I'm the only one who voted 4GB yet, but this is only when this space is fully meant for "own files" only and not app related data. Right now my 2GB SD card in my Galaxy Ace is filled only half, mainly because I don't have many songs and pics and I think 4GB of space should be enough to suit my needs so I'll but the 8GB version, which is what I want
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
There are 5 people that NEED 128gb on a phone....really?
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
16GB version is find for me since, I am getting the t-mobile unlimited. But don't you guys think if you stream your music and video from the cloud, your battery will be drain like crazy and how about the battery life it self?
[Nexus 4 General] pinkman1:
16GB fit me easy.

i don't have many songs, and i don't see a reason to watch movies on 4.7.

can't wait for N4
[Nexus 4 General] doubleatheman:
8gb, I live in the cloud.

Spotify just needs 2-3 gb for cache and synced playlists, 2 gigs for games, 1gig for synced skydrive/google drive files.
[Nexus 4 General] rbeavers:
Hard time filling up 32 gig, But give me time. :)
[Nexus 4 General] tory13579:
I will be getting the 8gb version. It is more than enough for me. I have a dedicated music player (iPhone) so it just seems pointless to move music from it because I only listen to it at work. And when I am home I use Google Music, Pandora, or iHeartRadio on my Wifi and I am also working on setting up an OwnCloud Server. All my games are a few mb in size and I mostly only play on n64oid anyways.

No LTE is no big because HSPA is plenty fast and in all the places I go, people with LTE phones get the same speeds I do on HSPA.

8gb Nexus4 will be a welcome addition to the device family.
[Nexus 4 General] DubelBoom:
I think I could handle 16GB, but I would prefer 32GB ;)
[Nexus 4 General] fr8cture:
i have a 32gb gs3 right now thinking i would need the space come to find out with all the apps i got loaded and everything i still have 18gb left so i think 16gb will work for me. I hope. Ofcourse the N4 is just gonna be a secondary device since im on verizon.
[Nexus 4 General] eric10234:
Currently, I can make do with 16GB but 32GB will be more likely to last me the life of the phone.

I would need to do clean ups more often but I can get by especially with that kind of price.

Being an AOSP device, I think I can try to keep ROMs and backups to a minimum unlike on Samsung devices. So yeah, I think I can work with 16GB but would love a 32GB.
[Nexus 4 General] Capt.PP:
Why don't you add Micro SD slot in the poll?
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
32gb.
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
I prefer at least 24gb, but I can live with 16gb, just have to tone down the music and videos. 8gb is impossible.

Sent from my LG Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus 4:
Uhmm,, I think 10 - 12 GB it's more than enough for me.
[Nexus 4 General] compact_bijou:
I've had a 16GB Sandisk micro SD card in my HD2 for years and I haven't filled it up.

Even with Android installed on it, a shed load of OS maps and tons of FLAC music.

16GB is sufficient for me. 32 would be nice but meh.

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Why does some berk always ask for an option which isn't listed on a poll?
[Nexus 4 General] erick161:
Not for all tho. I have 48gb of storage and I'm using almost all of it. Couldn't imagine being limited to only 16gb. Sadly why I won't own a nexus unless offered in 32gb form at least.
[Nexus 4 General] beston94:
What carrier and what deal is it? Do you have a link for it?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
Because Google have stated why they are not going to put external storage cards in their devices, so to ask for that is unrealistic.

The 64GB and 128GB choices are there for anyone that needs massive storage.
[Nexus 4 General] rest0ck:
I'm currently using my 8gb I9000 without extra SD Card and it is enough for me. But I would buy the 16gb version because of the larger photo and video files and ofc the (hopefully) great performance with still a lot of apps.
[Nexus 4 General] Brac20:
I think he might be talking about the "All You Can Eat" data add-on that you can get with ThreeUK.

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Phones/Get_better_value_with_an_Add_on
[Nexus 4 General] beston94:
Oh right. I guess that's a good deal but I'm thinking about giffgaff :P I mean paying 10 quid a month, whilst getting 250 minutes (never use them), unlimited texts and unlimited data?

I'd say that's a pretty good deal ^^
[Nexus 4 General] CJHolderUK:
TBH I would take 64 if it was available, however 16gb is fine. Google's servers are amazingly fast. So as for streaming I have no complaints. My phone is only for Games like Cut the Rope, Angry Birds Star Wars (Soon :P) Temple Run and apps like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. You know, the normal stuff, I may have NFS on it but not much more. Then I will have a 7GB music library on it. I then use my N7 (Might upgrade to 32gbs) for games, due to Tegra Optimisation (Which is obviously marketing BS), and movies because the bigger screen. I also use it as an eBook reader. I can tether from my N4 to my N7. Win all around. Both devices for less than an iPhone. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Spitfire:
32gb, mostly for music. I can probably get away with 16 by downloading a playlist worth of songs off of google music and keeping the rest in the cloud. Currently it's all on an SD card.
[Nexus 4 General] huntedsoul12:
16 gb will do me fine :)
[Nexus 4 General] Shark87:
8GB would be fine with me if it had a micro SD card slot. Of course there is USB hosting, so I'll probably be adding storage via a flash drive instead. I mainly use my phone's storage for music. I don't typically load a lot of large apps on my phone.
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
32g vote for me. Cloud storage is great till you're on a job with no reception trying to view pictures that need to have reception to view.
[Nexus 4 General] manlisten:
32GB would be ideal but I can live on 16GB. Really have no need for more than that.
[Nexus 4 General] xchasa:
I'm still getting it with 16gb. Too cheap not to try...
[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
16gb because the price is amazingly viable and my 8gb n7 has two big games and the essential apps and 2gb left..

For me Vanilla android with first in line updates negates the need for custom rom'ing, which served the purpose of having the latest OS, and removing carrier garb on my carrier subsidized fascinate. more than half of my current microsd is overrun with rom'ing scraps (old roms, nandroids, patches etc.. )

the question I have is how does the pic instant upload to g+ work? does it erase the pic from the phone after upload? Does the upload make it visible to all your people's on g+?

I see the biggest thing against the 8gb is the pics (sphere photos) and 1080p video potential. Otherwise the wife may be getting the 8...
[Nexus 4 General] toZeMTL:
I always thought I needed more then 8 but owning a Galaxy Nexus taught me that I dont
[Nexus 4 General] VillageBC:
I need 16gb, I would much prefer microsd(or 32gb).

My Galaxy S with 16gb has hit the wall a few times, but I have been able to deal with it so far. I don't have a data plan, so I can't rely on the cloud to store/stream stuff I want to watch/play etcetera. I much prefer my $25/mo bill with 100mb then paying $60+/mo to get 1gb-6gb/mo depending on carrier deals.
[Nexus 4 General] veryjiggy:
Does anyone know how much of actual free space is there in the 8gb version?
[Nexus 4 General] Snow_fox:
To be comfortable with my purchase 32gb is what I need realistically. It allows me to keep a cheaper data plan and ensures I have wiggle room for pictures, apps and bulkier music files.

I can make due with less since I currently have a 16gb captivate + 8 gb sd card but, 32gb is the most logical size I'd feel comfortable with. It gives me an ideal size. I'd probably use that till Google quit supporting it honestly.
[Nexus 4 General] windexh8er:
I'd agree with most sentiments here - I could get away with 16 but I'll buy 32 if the cost differential isn't that much different. 64, definitely don't need as of today.
[Nexus 4 General] PGU5802:
I was very surprised that I am using about the same amount.
[Nexus 4 General] MarkGbe:
i voted 8gb. i store maybe 1 gb of music that i listen to regularly. The rest is in the "cloud"

I store one or two roms on my phone at a time... the picture and videos i take are auto uploaded...

If i planned to keep a phone more than a year or two i'd go with 16gb.

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[Nexus 4 General] Lttlwing16:
my 8gb n7 has 5.62gb usable
[Nexus 4 General] AdamHart612:
I stream everything, don't play games, and don't watch HD video, etc. on my phone. 8GB will be fine for me. With Spotify local audio files are pointless for me. At this point the biggest files on my GNex are nandroids I forget to delete and the DCIM folder. Even with tons of pictures taken and lots of video recorded, I only have around 6GB filled after a year.

But I always have service or wifi, and don't have any data caps or throttling (that I've experienced). Obviously my answer would change if I was stuck dealing with carrier crap like that.
[Nexus 4 General] If Then Else:
Honestly, I could probably get by with the 8 gig, most likely end up going with the 16 just in case. The lack of expandable storage really doesn't bug me much, but I don't horde a bunch of media on my phone anyways.
[Nexus 4 General] omejia466:
I'll be nabbing the 16 gb version for the only reason that for 50 bucks more I'll have double the theoretical space (formatting) also being that tmobile just started there truly unlimited "4G" I have no issue using Google play to stream music or using my 50 GB of Dropbox that I got for buying the galaxy s3 to store movies or what have you. Yes removable battery would of been nice. But I'm not gonna ***** and moan about something so insignificant. Swapping from Galaxy to the Nexus cant be more excited then i am right now
[Nexus 4 General] P00t:
8 is good nough for me. My music take up about 5gb. And i dont take too many pictures or videos.
[Nexus 4 General] Chochiwpg:
I think 16GB would be sufficient for me. As it is right now on my Galaxy S 2 (Hercules) I have only used 6GB of internal SD storage. However, I have used approx 10GB of External SD Storage. Mind you 4.5GB of that space on my External SD is music that I typically don't listen to. So if I remove the music from my Storage I have only used 11.5GB total.

Remove some nandroid ROM backups I have and that saves me another 2GB at least.
[Nexus 4 General] MXIIA:
I need 8, but I'm getting 16 to not have to worry.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Those two things you mentioned really stick out as the problem with I need more storage whiners, seriously why are you keeping songs and other useless things you don't need on your phone???? Keep things you USE not just stuff things and when it gets low look for a quick fix, a 64GB sdcard!! This whole issue will be settled if Google has a 32GB version, but it makes sense for them to release these versions at attractive price points and with good marketing it will sell like crazy. People who claim they will pay more must have a lot of money, I sure as hell don't, gotta sell my S2 and add some for the shipping costs to my country. Wish you could know how people struggle to get money and this move by Google will ensure they penetrate the market instead of winning over power users who make up such a tiny market share and worst of all are flaky and easily get swayed by the next awesome spec'd phone
[Nexus 4 General] Chochiwpg:
I keep songs/music on my phone because Google Play Music is not available in Canada, so I can't upload it to the cloud. Well I can, but there are a lot of loop holes to jump through that it really isn't worth it for me. I don't plan on storing music on my phone when I purchase the N4. What I plan on doing is keeping the S2 as a back up, but more importantly as a cheap alternative to getting a tablet device for my daughter to play with. Right now all the games and songs I have on my phone are for her use and not mine. When I purchase the N4 I plan on letting her use the S2 to play her games and listen to music. It won't be connected to a data plan anymore, but it would work perfectly as a wifi enabled device for her use.

I also won't be installing her games on the N4 either.

Hopefully that answers your question as to why I currently store music on my phone. As for nandroids, I keep maybe one or 2 saved just in case, the rest I remove and keep my phone pretty clean TBH. Also I wasn't complaining about storage space at all in my post, I am 100% content with 16GB of storage. Peace bro.
[Nexus 4 General] VictorNYC:
Well, let me begin by saying my SGIII has 16 Gig on board and a 32 SD Card but right now I only have about 4.5Gig of music and about 1.7 of apps and pictures so while I could easily get by with the 8Gig version I'm still getting the 16Gig since ROMS, Backups and Kernels do take a lot of space on general

( about 5Gig total )

Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity....
[Nexus 4 General] psxpaul:
I voted 4GB.

I'm on an 8GB Galaxy S right now, and its only got a few hundred MBs used. In 2 years, it has never had more than 2 or 3 GBs used. My Nexus 7 is only an 8GB too, and its nowhere close to being full. I don't have any music, and I will never need to put more than 1 or 2 movies on my phone. There are only a handful of apps I have installed at any one time, and typically only 1 or 2 of them are games.
[Nexus 4 General] gridlock489:
It's not how much storage I need, its how much storage I want. People are disappointed with the 8/16GB storage capacities because there is such a big market for 32/64GB devices, and Google failed to meet this demand!

I would definitely pay $400 for a 32GB device. I believe that is the ideal size for a phone. That being said, I can easily get by with an 8GB device and just use other devices for media consumption.
[Nexus 4 General] littlewonder:
32 Gb would be nice but I will survive with 16 Gb..Gotta sell my DHD first then I will buy 16 GB version..So looking forward :D
[Nexus 4 General] BTslo:
16gb is pushing it for me but I should be OK till next year. If only we had 99% 3G coverage, then I could stream everything, can't do much on edge haha.
[Nexus 4 General] AwesomeTurtle:
All said and done, I won't put it past Goog to release a 32gb model at some point in the future. If nagging about Moar Storage is you guys' ideal way to pass the time until that day comes, then by all means carry on.
[Nexus 4 General] kieren2:
day to day 8GB would be enough for me. A few offline mapping apps, and 2 -4 GB of music playlists.

However, I voted for 32GB because a huge feature for me is storing video on the phone. I use it then on trips away to plug into the hotel TV & watch TV series and I have a few fitness / stretching videos on there too. Most of the time I need this abroad so I have no data connection and wifi can be hit & miss.

I don't have video out on my current phone (HTC Desire) so use by 1st Gen 16GB iPhone for this task and even though the videos are low resolution, I still have to juggle files.

If only I could get a decent, cheap self powered wifi hard disk
[Nexus 4 General] Jaytronics:
My music collection is past 250Gigs. It is the very high bit rate compression that does that. And the fact that I have a ton of music. In all seriousness 500gigs would be just fine with me. And yes, I do listen to all of that music. No I can not choose what to listen to ahead of time.

Sent from a phone
[Nexus 4 General] AwesomeTurtle:
Then it should go without saying that this thread (and this device) is not for you.

Take that ~250gb and go away.

Edit: Yes, I know you're just yanking our chains.