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[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
There are so many people saying the same thing that I'm hopeful it will get brought to Google's attention that loads of people WANT to buy this device but NEED more storage space.

Sorry, but if they had announced a 32GB option then this device would be being hailed by almost everyone as the best thing to happen to Android ever (what with the specs and aggressive pricing). Instead, it just has a large portion of its target market banging their heads against a wall...
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
Didn't even read this! I'm too excited!

All I know is whatever you're complaining about is **** because the phone is £279!

If you don't like it, buy the inferior iPhone :)
[Nexus 4 General] Death&co:
I'm going to have to agree with the OP. The same people that are praising this phone have been knocking Apple for such lacking features in the past including no expandable storage, no removable battery, no LTE. Amazing how cool it is that this device doesn't have these features...
[Nexus 4 General] setspeed:
I'm not going to go into the reasons why I would like more space as it's been covered over and over in other threads.

The point of this thread is to ask why Google seems unable to spec a phone that is ahead of the curve and also meets the needs of most of its target market, without jumping through hoops like USB-OTG for this, or buying an extended battery and putting up with a rubbish camera on the G-Nex.
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
edit: Sigh, I'll be nice.

(short story is that "most" of the target does not need over 16GB of space, not even close. Speak for yourself.)
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
How much is the Iphone £529, Samsung galaxy S3 £400, HTC one x + £425 ETC,

The Nexus 4 £279 Get a grip on reality and ssshhhusshh...:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] echo_rc:
I will buy this phone.. 16GB is enough for me:)
[Nexus 4 General] kanariya:
Human nature. People can always pick things to complain about.

If the N4 has LTE and 64gb storage, they will be able to pick other **** to complain about keep whining.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] mishko:
So you call the latest S4 Snapdragon Quadcore processor decent? Two gb's of ram is only decent? Please show me any phone which can muster those kind of specs, especially in that price range.

Also, the storage space of 16 gb's in my opionion should be enough for the average user. How large part of the main public do you really think store roms and nands on their devices?
[Nexus 4 General] Publicglutton:
+1....:good:
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
Simple economics suggests that to make a device with such powerful specifications and make it available for under $300, you need to cut your costs somewhere. I would rather have 8 or 16GB of storage space than have a subpar screen, processor, or inadequate RAM. There is a specific reason why Google no longer wants a microSD card, and they have publicly stated why since 2010. Come to terms and accept it as a viable compromise, or just don't purchase the Nexus 4. The android ecosystem is large enough to make everyone happy.
[Nexus 4 General] noneabove:
If it had them people would complain about price size and battery life.. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] crachel:
16GB won't work for you on the Nexus 4, but you seem to really like the Nexus One which had 512 MB, a good bit of which was taken by the OS.

Edit: Wikipedia says 190 MB for applications
[Nexus 4 General] jjshinobi:
What do you expect LG isn't really going to treat it as their flagship device. Same as Samsung their focus is the S and Note series.

Just wait until Motorola picks up the slack with a Nexus phone of their own. Their phones do feel a bit Nokia-ish though..
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
#1

Stop telling people that the price is too good to complain. No one asked for a 349$ priced 32GB device. All said that they would like the option of bigger storage.

I support that. I'd like to have the option to give a little more money and have more storage space.

#2

What we put in our mobile devices is our concern. Some people put books and comics, others put games, photographs collections, emulators+roms or movies/series ( about 700mb for each episode of an HD episode and don't tell me to convert them to lower quality. )

#3

And yes some people put ALL of these and a LOT! So? Some do it because they spend a lot of time traveling. Other's might have a place that they regularely visit that doesn't have wi-fi anywhere near.

#4

The LG Nexus 4 is a CHEAP mobile especially when compared to other mobiles of it's category. Many people that will buy it are not people that have to money to pay for internet connection on their contract. If you can, the bravo for you. But MANY can't. Either because of their economic situation or prices in each one's country.

Me? I can manage pretty fine with the 16GB model. But if I had a 32GB bit option I would definately go for that and never bother with cloud, trying to find wi-fi every 2 hours, or carrying with me usb-otg cable and usb stick.

tl;dr

16Gb is perfect for probably 90% or more of the people interested in this phone.

But the rest 10% would like more space. Is that so wrong?

edit:

One more thing.

"don't like don't buy it"

What? Ok then suggest us with an alternative with the same specs and at 400$ ( considering that a 32Gb model would probably cost 400$ ).
[Nexus 4 General] bradsh1:
Yeah but at least iphones rarely have glaring hardware flaws. I guess the battery is maybe a bit weak in the iphone5? Thats all I can think of; I've seen them in person and they are sexy sexy devices. Really they have mostly been industry leading devices. Excellent cpu, no worries about ram, always the best camera, the best screen, plenty of onboard storage, PERFECT audio DAC. You have to hand it to apple's hardware team; they rarely miss details. It's a flagship device every time. The only thing i dont like is the software :P

but each nexus since the N1 has been flawed, and even this one has flaws. people trot out their tired excuses year after year "its a developer device that google doesnt really want to sell / google doesnt care about your wanting a good camera / google doesnt care if you want good GPU / google doesnt care about the audio DAC in a tablet". I'm so sick of the excuses.

edit: Actually the N1 also had huge flaws. The camera made these weird red spots in the middle of pictures and the audio DAC was AWFUL. I couldn't even stand listening to music on it.
[Nexus 4 General] CJHolderUK:
Meanwhile in Africa...
[Nexus 4 General] aooga:
Can someone ban these threads? I've seen about 10 of them!

And who the %*#! uses more than 16gb of storage???? who?? and why??? It just amazes me. The only reason I can understand is pictures and apps. Unless you take thousands and pictures and never delete them from your phone, there is no way it can fill up. I have a 32 gb nexus right now and I'm using at a maximum 4 gb. (separate from the OS). Music is another one. Not gonna fill up 16gb. Keep your favorite songs and use Pandora or something else for the rest.

This is just my opinion, feel free to disagree.
[Nexus 4 General] mi7chy:
Google has emphasized after the Motorola acquisition that they're going to treat it as a separate entity. If it's not obvious Google is forming partnerships and have teamed with Asus for 7", Samsung for 10" and LG for 4". There's plenty of business to go around so they're doing right. I've never owned LG but the Nexus 4 looks to be a quality handset and one that I will get along with the Nexus 10 as both are about the price of one Galaxy Note II.
[Nexus 4 General] PhillyCheez:
Too funny.... FLAC on phone! What a waste of space. Those DACs are ****. Why?
[Nexus 4 General] bradsh1:
What in the **** kind of bizarre argument is this? Oh and there are starving children in darfur, better not talk about your phone hardware on XDA?
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
Read my earlier post about the N4 specs... tell me which one aside from the silly 8/16gb complaints makes the N4 inferior to current devices out? leave pricing out of this comparison too... storage is really subjective... my 16gb NS4G has had at least 6 nandroid backups and i still had plenty of space left over...
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Agreed.
[Nexus 4 General] SIGUEL:
Your last comment really resumed whats wrong with people whining about the storage, neither the nexus or any other phone offers that for $400 much less $350. So why complaint??

16GB @ $350 - People complaint about storage.

32GB @ $400+ - People will complaint about the price.

SKYNET
[Nexus 4 General] glenroebuck:
uhh I get sim voice and data on TMO 4g - att had it too with the iphone 3 ?? if you are getting 65 Mbs on verizon lte good on you but when I had it I never saw above 11 and my TMO 4g gets 20 Mbs here at home and 17 at work, 11 in vegas, 18 in orlando - I had verizon LTE I have had verizon LTE service when it was just 20 markets and it has never been as fast at I get on TMO HSPA+
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
You are wrong.

NOBODY complained about 16GB @ $350. I also wrote that in my previous post.

If someone wanted the same specs and price but 32Gb of storage is not thinking straight.

I said, it's good to have an option of 32GB @ 400$.

Your post doesn't make any sense.
[Nexus 4 General] nbeebe24:
It means grow the heck up. We all have a right to express ourselves but people really disgust me sometimes. I'm an appreciative person so maybe you don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm just tired of going to sites and reading the same crap from whiny people such as the op.
[Nexus 4 General] vinnyjr:
I have said the exact same thing on the Android Central Forum. Google and LG put together some bad ass specs but leave out what many consider one of the most important features, interior storage. It costs pennies to make the int storage 32gb which would be much more user friendly. There is no bigger Google fan then I, saying that I will not just turn my head when it is very obvious they cut some dumb ass corners and cut 1/2 of the prospective customers right out of buying this phone. I can live without LTE, I get fantastic T-Mobile speed at my location and love it, but leaving out what I think is a feature that ruins the damn phone, int storage is so fuc---- stupid. No sd card I can live with but give us some damn int storage, after the Operating System and a few apps you are down to under 12mb of storage. Throw a few games and some music and say a Movie to watch while on the jobsite if out of Network range and you will be seeing the low memory popping up. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB.
[Nexus 4 General] SIGUEL:
Did you took even the time to read the ridiculous thread title???

Read it and it will make sense what and why I posted.

SKYNET
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
Can we all move on please? How has this thread reached 20 pages of going back and forth? The Nexus 4 is not a one size fits all device, nor will any device ever be, for that matter. If the Nexus 4 doesn't appeal to you because of any reason, then settle on another Android phone for the course of 1 year and hope that the next Nexus will live up to your expectations. It's as simple as that. Let's move on from this.
[Nexus 4 General] nbeebe24:
I would love to see this thread closed
[Nexus 4 General] jhonny20041433:
Well said. I just wish they gave us the option. 16GB + Micro Sd Slot for £30 more would have been great.

Lets not move on, lets keep complaining and build up hate so that next time Google listen to us!:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] lolmensch:
So price is not really an issue i reckon. I bought the note 2 and want to sell it to buy the nexus 4. should have had more thoughts about samsung approach to deving.

now for the storage thing. I totally agree with him.

Let's see: usuable space of gs2 or note2 (16gb version) is roughly about 11gb. rest is cluttered up with os and app storage and whatever.

So I've got mostly edge where I live. Nothing near hspa and 500mb max cap. Cloud is not an option. (wifi at home is @2mbit/s not mbyte) even with wifi cloud is not an option

Now for the storage:

Navigation ~800mb (copilot, navigon whatever you choose as offline navigation)

HD videos with camera+pics ~2gb

3 Games (Fifa12,wild blood, bard's tale) ~6,4gb

Music ~3gb

So that is not a lot is it? 3 games a few pictures and videos (not even movies or series), music and navigation already take up 12,2gb of your 11gb? Doesn't even work. So assuming 16gb is 16gb that might be enough but you won't get 16gb telling from my experience so I'd love to sell my note 2 in favour for the nexus 4. I just don't think I can live with such a small amount of space.

Btw note 2 interenal space is actually 10.3gb so it feels more like an 8gb phone with a little bit extra.

Samsung just su*** balls with developer support as already mentioned -.-
[Nexus 4 General] bradsh1:
According to the idiots in this thread

1) You aren't meant to have a Nexus phone, it's not for you, it's only meant for developers. Which is why Tmobile will sell them in their shops SUBSIDIZED

2) Carry around a giant USB stick hanging out of your phone all the time, surely a brilliant and awesome solution

3) Stop doing things that take space. It is impossible to use that much space as verified by <ANECDOTE HERE>. The multiple games that use >1.2 GB in the app store do not exist. Videos taken with the onboard camera do not take space

4) USE THE CLOUD! Simply connect your ultra fast EDGE connection to stream hidef movies! After all, the United States is covered in HSPA+ and if you don't have coverage, you should not be able to enjoy modern phones.

5) Accept that you are an idiot for wanting to do things outside of the mainstream workflow. This is unacceptable, and your extenuating circumstances have no merit.

6) Buy a different device. It is unacceptable to state your wishes on a forum literally designed to talk about a device which is not yet for sale.

7) Don't bother expressing your want. Google has literally never released a larger storage option later on based on demand. Except that one time, two days ago.
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
According to the "opinions" on this thread:

1. The Nexus 4 is not a phone for you, because you have needs that differ from what the phone offers.

2. Nobody is forcing you to carry around a USB stick to compensate for the lack of onboard storage, or buy the device at all for that matter.

3. Nobody is forcing you to stop doing things that take space, or buy the device at all for that matter.

4. Nobody is forcing you to use the cloud, or buy the device at all for that matter.

5. Nobody is forcing you to conform to the views of the mainstream, or buy the device at all for that matter.

So rather than calling everyone idiots on this thread and lowering your credibility, why not agree to disagree and call it a day? Or are we going to take this up a notch and get into personal attacks over two differing needs and viewpoints?
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
Your point?

We are saying that we would like the option to have more internal storage instead of having to use cloud services or usb host+usb drives.

Who said anything about forcing to buy?
[Nexus 4 General] jacklebott:
My head hurts from all the face-palms this thread has brought. Most of the arguing is borderline incomprehensible.
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
The device is what it is. Google is not secretly monitoring this thread to listen to your opinion/grievance or mine and make a better Nexus 4 to satisfy your needs or mine. So rather than going back and forth claiming Google should have done this or done that, why not accept that the Nexus 4 is not the device for you and move on to another device? Or is that too much to ask?
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
You're kidding right? Of course that's too much to ask...
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
Who cares about what Google is monitoring? We are discussing our opinion about whether a 32Gb model option would suit us better.

The going back and forth is done because people that don't use that much space in their mobiles don't understand why the others need so much and vice versa. And each side is trying to explain their reasons and workarounds.

Is there something wrong to discussing all that ?
[Nexus 4 General] montez.061-:
I feel you. But this isn't a thread about a hurricane... I live in dc and everything been shutdown but we actually come here to take our minds off of that. No disrespect. Just saying
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
And you feel we haven't covered that enough even after 21 pages into this thread?
[Nexus 4 General] lolmensch:
and offtopic. google probably will throw a quick look on threads like these or why did they make an hspa version of nexus 7 and 32 gb in there?
[Nexus 4 General] Jaytronics:
While I am with the OP on some things. It was stated before me, the price of the phone does in fact justify the lack of some things. I did rant about this phone on another persons thread. Well, not so much the phone but how some got so offensive over another person disliking the lack of features. Again, its price point is very low. Though Android is open and hardware in ones opinion should match that to a degree. So the option of using a mSD card would be nice as that would leave the user "open" to options. It may actually do so by use of OTG. Be it a pain in the rear to connect and disconnect over and over.

But, one more time again . Price.

To put it another way, a pool filled with cherry flavored JELLO gelatin would be wicked pissa dude!

In all seriousness, we all have different needs when it comes to storage. I personally need to keep some of my documents extremely safe via encryption. And I have more music than could fit on 64Gig SD card. I drive for a living. And through the year I listen to all of my music. And to say that I should choose the music before I go out. Would in my case not be possible. I go through an array of emotions throughout the day every day. I am sleep deprived and just dont want to hear certain bands or types of music when I wake. But at other times of the day I may feel different. And the internet is not available to me at times. I travel all over New England. From the top of ME to the bottom of CT. So I don't have service. And at times I will be in an area as such for a lengthy period of time. I may need something that I can not get at. Or how about when the network is super slow and I am in need of a document? It has to be on my device at the ready at the drop of a hat if need be. Again, we are all different. We all need different. So, will I purchase a nexus device? No, and I am kind of OK with that. We have options. And we have awesome Devas that take care of us here. So far my VZW SGS3 is doing it was me. And that is because of our Devs. Choice, preference and price people. Nothing more, nothing less.
[Nexus 4 General] nbeebe24:
No disrespect to you and I feel for you guys over there. I have just become very annoyed with the complaining about storage. Google is giving a a great deal and it's been nothing but complaints. I've been on XDA for a few years and there seems to be a recent spike in disrespect and complaining.

I realize I don't have to read but I love this community for the most part. No more out of me though. I'll continue praying for the sufferers of the natural disaster though. Hope you have a good day sir
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
Competition. The Kindle Fire HD.
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
Some people have some other's just don't get what the other's say.

I just decided to also give my opinion.
[Nexus 4 General] spider623:
Xiaomi mi-2
[Nexus 4 General] TheArtiszan:
Sorry. After having a LG g2x I wont touch another LG phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
Care to elaborate please ?
[Nexus 4 General] samarth1:
Yes, you are right. The question is whether the Xiaomi mi-2 will be available outside of China for the general public. And the answer to that is no. Nor is it running stock android, but MIUI on top of Android 4.1.
[Nexus 4 General] haloimplant:
BRB got to feed everyone in Africa before I can say my opinion that the phone should have a 32GB option.

And when did Google ever say this is a 'developer device'.

Sure maybe people are whining a bit too hard, but these two arguments in particular are incredibly lame.

The problem with "don't like it don't buy it" is that it is the only Android phone that will get decent updates. It is a sad state for Android that you can't get a phone with LTE or more than 16GB that will get updates, and that is not just the fault of this Nexus but also the ongoing pathetic update situation with the other manufacturers. If updates weren't such a problem with other manufacturers people who want more from their phones just pass on this, instead we are looking at year wait before there is anything better (or not if Google pulls another N7 flip-flop screw job).
[Nexus 4 General] OPTheory:
I had one. Besides the fact that it was completely left behind on updates (surprise surprise), it's a great phone while it lasted.
[Nexus 4 General] Cirkustanz:
Hey, I won't knock a person for lamenting it doesn't have a removable memory card, I mean, I have a 64gig memory card in my Blaze.

I *want* a new Nexus style phone, I'd probably *still* be using my Nexus One were it not for water damage.

Having said all that, I've been hearing for MONTHS that supposedly Google has multiple phones coming out this year, from multiple manufacturers, my hope is that one of them will scream "buy me."

All I really want in a phone is stock Android, a color customizable led for notifications, and removable memory.

Nexus One is as far as I know, STILL the only phone to have all three of those options. Obviously removable memory is the most important to me at the moment, and it's not about omg I need to have everything, it's the fact that to me a phone is mostly a portable media device that just so happens to be able to act as a phone when I need, which is rarely. I listen to music all day at work, and on my breaks I'm usually watching a tv program or something that I've synced from the PC.

Blah blah blah, you want a tablet dude! (No, I don't, tablets don't fit in the pocket, also they are socially not as accepting)

When you listen to music 8 hours a day, every single day, in a giant concrete building that commonly blocks your data signal and you can't stand the thought of planning your music listening AHEAD of time, you just need to have lots of storage space.

I keep 45 gigs of music on the phone, and I allocate the bulk of the remaining space for whatever random tv show/movie I feel like watching. I can't even remember the last time I had to connect a USB cable to my phone. (about once a week it will sync automatically over wifi but I don't have to do anything) To me, it's all very specific because heck, at my last job they didn't care what I did with our computers, so everyone would just copy their music library onto their work computer.

If you're a music fiend, you know what I'm talking about. It's like those poor saps who have to plan their meals in advance. I mean, seriously...why would people go grocery shopping for an entire month at a time?

Surely by now even larger memory cards are on the horizon....I always get a bigger size card whenever they drop below $100. Every time!

If you are *NOT* complaining about it, just keep this in mind....

Ok, so the 8gig model is $299....Why is the 16gig model $350? I mean, seriously? Why do phone manufacturers always do that. Memory is so cheap nowadays....
[Nexus 4 General] Deggy:
Every one of these points are legit and have validity. Let's say the phone doesn't exist (it doesn't), what exactly people who originally wanted the nexus 4 gonna do?
[Nexus 4 General] pachi72:
Yeas the Nexus is a great deal. But if they would gives us a 32gb for $400 and a 64gb for $450 or even $500..that's a better deal than a unlocked Galaxy Note 2 16gb for $700 bucks.