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[Asus Transformer TF700] msa1989:
Hi,

first of all: Sorry for my bad english. I come from germany.

I use this device for university, and i think i wouldn't buy it now, after using it for approx. 3 months. The stock browser is very slow. Even my Galaxy S2 with stock rom was better. Sometimes i don't believe that there's a quad core inside. It feels to slow. Pherhaps i also have to test a custom rom, but i don't want to loose guarantee.

The Infinity combinated with dock is really great to notice something very quickly. First I tried with an iPad in university and this was horrible. I sold it after 3 weeks. The Infinity is defintly better, but not what i expected to become. I hope that further Software Updates will fix this.

I don't want to be only negative: The micro HDMI is great. I used it several times. Also the possibility to plug in an usb - stick, or a micro sd card is very useful. The quality of the display is also very fine. Apps like dolphin browser, tune in radio ... are working very well. The killer feature against Apples iPad is the flash plattform.

If i have to say it in one sentence: It's to slow and has to much bugs for it's high price (in Germany it's 700€ ~ 905$)
[Asus Transformer TF700] aydc:
No I wouldn't. Even with CleanROM and other tweaks, all sdcard related operations are too slow. App opening and closing animations are not smooth. Project Butter doesn't work, even on official CM10. Battery life is not good. I get max 5 hours of movie watching time. My old Xoom would give me 8-9 hours. In short, I'm not happy with the Infinity and I wish I'd have gone for Galaxy Note 10.1.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
I would 100% absolutely buy the TF700 again. It's a great device, especially if you install a custom ROM (CleanROM *highly* recommended) as well as Clemsyn's OC kernel. Stock is not horrible, but CleanROM/Clemsyn combination is simply amazing. Makes the device crazy fast!

Of course, it's not a perfect device (there is no such thing), but it's by far the most versatile (keyboard dock, memory card slots, HDMI-out, etc), best looking (brushed aluminum), best performing, thinnest, lightest 10" Android tablet available right now.

The worst aspect of this tablet is the (lack of) quality control @ Asus. I would not recommend purchasing the tablet via mail order because of this. I would highly recommend that you purchase at Best Buy, so that you can exchange it if needed (in case you have a hardware issue). Best Buy has an excellent return policy.

I'd also recommend that you spend the extra $87 (with coupon) and purchase a 2-year Square Trade Accidental Coverage warranty. This way, even if you accidentally step on the device and break it, you are covered. Or, if you brick it while trying to install custom ROM's or something - you are covered. It gives you complete peace of mind for 2 years (at which point, you'll probably be upgrading again anyway).

Hope that helps you make your decision! :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] AM Radio:
no.

cleanROM + kernals and all that developer goodness is awesome, but ASUS should have gotten their product right before releasing it. build quality issues, crappy I/O, yada yada. that said, the IDEA of a tablet with these specs is awesome, and the potential was great. it's just implementation fail.

curious abt the Nexus 10. the resolution on that thing is ridiculous, wondering how the pixel-pushing is going to fare with that new SoC.
[Asus Transformer TF700] DARK SIDE:
No... It's a lazy and very slow so I don't like it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDtOqCQ_I4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from Asus infinity tablet
[Asus Transformer TF700] hashish16:
Warranty invalidation for unlocking the bootloader is the only reason I wouldn't recommend it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] spillner:
Yes I would, CleanRom has transformed this tablet into a beast and I have no regrets. Those kicking themselves for not getting an N10 will always be sore because technology isn't gonna stop improving just so you can feel better about your purchase. The Infinity has become my daily driver for all things related to the internet and gaming on the couch.
[Asus Transformer TF700] StiiLe:
Yes I would, absolutely.

Sometimes, I'm thinking about the GNote 10.1, for example when I need to draw a graph on a PDF, but at the end it's very rare that I need it, my keyboard is so usefull : the battery, the keyboard itself, and to keep the tablet in a right angle in the bed, on the desk, during conferences with small places... :p

I had no issue with mine. Not at all, and I have locked bootloader (for now).

The best would be TF700 1080p screen with GNote 10.1 PLS technology (stylus and pressure), and Samsung multitasking-multiwindows system when it will be smooth. :cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
I knew that it was overpriced and already outdated when I bought it, but I was too curious how it works with the dock, and the dock really makes it much more useful than a tablet alone (I had a TF101 without dock before).

1 GB RAM and the slow internal storage are not adequate for a high end tablet. And the software is very unstable and feels half-baked compared to a Linux or Windows desktop - even the Play store app crashed in the stock ROM (out of memory exception).

Do I regret that I bought it? No, money was not an issue, it is a nice toy and the screen is great. Would I buy it again? No. Let's see what 2013 brings.
[Asus Transformer TF700] okantomi:
You must have a bad one. Mine is super smooth and fast!

So my answer is YES! Knowing what I know now, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. This thing is truly a beast. I never intentionally leave any of my devices stock...custom roms and kernels give you so much more. A Square Deal warranty is pretty cheap and gives great protection, so who cares about voiding the ASUS warranty?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Yes, for sure I would.

It has Dev support and just started getting CM10 nightlies. Check out the Dev forum for more.

I think the stock ROM has some pretty useful tools. Splashtop, Asus cloud storage and even a tool for DNLA although MediaHouse is still the best for DNLA. I don't use the magazine, newspaper and book apps that came with it, but I guess they're useful for someone using them. The only real inclusion in the stock ROM that troubles some people is the stuff relating to the Asus Device Tracker, but you can search and read for more about that. I'm not worried about that given I have a SquareTrade warranty. So I'd get coverage regardless.

Yes, it can replace a notebook when you consider Splashtop. And if all you do is view media, read mail, edit a few files, browse the web and play games, yea it's all you need. If you need desktop specific applications, you can use them through Splashtop, WiFi connected desktop/laptop required ;) .
[Asus Transformer TF700] bluejay2345:
No. You shouldn't have to root your device and install a custom OS to get decent performance out of a tablet. I am ok with it now that I have done these things, but the stock performance is unacceptable. I would definitely go with a different tablet if I had the choice.

If the stock performance had been good and custom OS's made the performance EVEN BETTER that would be ok in my book.
[Asus Transformer TF700] malos1984:
Hi all,

I didn't want to make yet another thread about should i buy blah blah blah.

please don't reply if you have had a sour experience with your unit as i think the reply will not be a genuine one.

I have looked at this tablet in local stores and tried some basic games and they run fine to me.

However i currently have a acer a510 1280x 800 res 1.3 tegra chip.

I have found all games from asphalt 7/6 nova 3 (even though not compatable) to run fine and smooth on my lower performance tegra tab.

My use will be gaming movies and also want the more laptop experience to respond to online questions while on the go.

Reading through the forum i see people complaining about slow fps and slow internal storage.

however the specs of the aussie version of this tab specifies ssd memory?

So my question is how do you perceive slow and this on all tabs or just some peoples. I.e. some one complaining about it being slow would get the same speed benchmark as some one who perceives it as being fine?

Also do you think it is more a optimization issue for games fps or the fact the res is just that much more? I know alot of games still have issues with tegra games and really for such a powerful company and chipset it really should get more attention than it is.

is the 1gb of ram a bottle neck?

I ask this because i have 1gb of ram on the a510 and have not had any specific issues running low on memory however i can see how a higher res "may require more ram" to run smooth.

I agree with many posts that this tablet really should be 1.5gb or 2gb of ram.

I was even surprised to see the upcoming lte model still only has 1gb of ram.

So i'm kind of stuck on if i should buy it or wait for the next gen hopefully mid next year.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fortunz:
Only the sometimes sluggish IO was a surprise, and not that big a deal to me. Otherwise, I knew the weaknesses when I bought it.

If 'the newest thing' is what you want, then yeah, you'll always be unhappy with what you've got. But if what you want is a little more specific and based on practicality, you can get a lot of life out of a good device, and the Infinity is a good device. I've had my TP2 for 3 years next month. I have no plans to upgrade that, and no device currently exists that I'd even consider to be an upgrade. I know what I want.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
IMO I don't think this tablet would be the best for gaming until...when or if the Android game app market catches up to the hardware.

My wife plays the low end common games on this tab no troubles there.

I used to play Max Payne and Need for speed, those haven't been running too well lately for me.

The Tegra3 games are problematic for some and there isn't a large selection at this time.

Viewing movies in HD is fine for me...can't speak for others however.

Bottom line:

As the tablet stands now, I wouldn't invest the money to game on the Infinity if your Acer plays the intense games to your liking.

Best of luck with the tablet search.

jim
[Asus Transformer TF700] Superinc:
NO.. should have done something at the beginning. its always a good sign when the very first boot you get FC. Pisses me off that my GIIS SR is super smooth with JB and the TF700 benching as much 3x more in most test is completly retard. :eek:

Now the only thing I can do is wait till asus can tie this powerful hardware to software. given the track record with tf300 and the prime with I/O issues, im left holding my ........
[Asus Transformer TF700] thunderger:
No, I wouldn't buy it again. I hope someone will buy my TF700T soon. Build quality is okay, but "software" and perfomance are mad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] MartyHulskemper:
Many games have issues on the T3, as referenced before. It's an app hing, the chip is fine.

I don't game that much, but read a lot of PDFs, watch lots of documentaries and movies, and browse XDA ;) ... oh, and other websites as well. The TF700 (on CleanROM) is doing fine, although I do have the line glitch when watching some PDFs.

Well, read up a bit more on SSD technology, because different brands of SSDs are quite different from eachother in terms of storage controllers employed, and the configuration they are used in, and even within a single manufacturer, different types may exhibit drastic performance differences. Try Googling "Crucial M4 64 128 256 GB" -- the 128 has FAR worse performance than the excellence of both the 64 and 256 GB versions.

Surely there are differences in perception. Speed benchmarks are only half the story when it comes to UI fluidity and user experience. I have never benchmarked ANY Android device I've owned -- what does a higher number get me, except slightly longer e-peen feeling?

Some games run when side-loaded, so it's not even always an optimization effort needed. It's the manufacturer not having the opportunity of testing on a 700, or being too plain lazy/disinterested to add it to the list of compatible devices. ;) I don't know why NVIDIA is missing the impact here. I'd have to resort to wild guesses.

More RAM on a *nix machine -- which the 700 is, of course -- is not as beneficial as it is on Windows, say. I've never run out of memory with anything I've done so far, and that ranges form large drawings, opening large PDFs (200MB+), watching HD movies in cinema length with extras, etc. It's also not a direct issue of having to swap out textures to swap file like it is with Windows and such when you run a graphically intensive game. Android games normally don't reach the impact level Crysis had on the PC world. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] louiscyphere13:
Couldn't have said it better! I totally agree I really don't understand how much complaining they have on this tablet, ..like you said unlocked and rooted, awesome.. keep in mind we just got our first overclocked kernel, give it a little time and we'll see what this thing is really capable of
[Asus Transformer TF700] drew68:
No
[Asus Transformer TF700] malos1984:
I get and understand what you are saying. i would not be expecting it to do 200/255 or 550/510 mbp/s read write. thats just silly on a tablet.

however it should still be faster than say my acer a510 that uses eeprom rom for it's storage in theory.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
All current tablets use NAND flash, usually in the form of an eMMC, which is like an SD card soldered onto the mainboard. This is a much simpler and slower technology than SSDs for PCs, which typically use 16 or flash chips in parallel and a dedicated controller which alone may reach the processing power of the tablet's SOC.

And the eMMC in the TF700 is just one of the slower ones.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ingenihero:
If eMMC in the TF700 is just one of the slower ones, how people can talk about performance improvements with custom roms? The chip is still there...
[Asus Transformer TF700] okantomi:
There are a multitude of great and workable tweaks that can be built into ROM (CleanROM has done it) without sacrificing data integrity, and by overclocking gpu and cpu, even by a bit, performance just takes off! Also, some extemely easy settings on the stock browser, coupled with a root app "browser2ram" make using the stock browser such a pleasure. No scrolling lag and with CleanROM, flash works. I honestly don't know why anyone would hesitate to jump on this. This machine is now the fastest and best tab out there--I'm talking about real use, not just benchmarks. Keep in mind that many apps have not yet been updated to take advantage of our high res screen. That will come in time. Til then, everything I need works really well.
[Asus Transformer TF700] malos1984:
so i notice recently asus have updated their site to say emmc it used to claim SSD
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
SSD was not even wrong - clearly the eMMC is a solid-state device because it does not use mechanical parts, but maybe they changed it so that users do not expect performance levels comparable to PC SSDs.

The performance improvements in custom ROMs work by trying to avoid or delay writing to the eMMC - e.g. Browser2RAM does exactly what it says, it redirects the browser's cache data into RAM instead writing to the eMMC, thus avoiding the slow writes. CleanROM has some tweaks that allow more data to accumulate in RAM before writing them to the eMMC, and also turns off journaling, which reduces reliability in case of crashes, but reduces write operations. So the slow storage cannot be magically made faster, but it is possible to hide its slowness better. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] okantomi:
Good explanation. But the bottom line is that it works well, runs smooth and fast and has been rock-solid reliable. I honestly don't know what else anyone could want.
[Asus Transformer TF700] thebrian101:
I might give Asus another chance with their infinity tablet, after being severely let down by all the defects that my prime had when it was first released.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cherokee4Life:
The questions of the century..

If you would have asked me 2 weeks ago, I would have said no.

Today. I would not recommend it but I love it now. I learned to love it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kthz:
No way for me.

Too much disappointed by Tegra 3 performance in apps (i also have a Galaxy SIII), general tablet behavior (even if it's partially fixable with custom roms/mods) and by the screen.

It may be high resolution but i hate its backlighting and the too shiny panel. These are my main reasons.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bradslinux:
Um....er....Ditto. Did you really count the words? hehehe

I'm happy with my purchase and yes I would by it again. Considering the cost I would have expected it to fetch my slippers, beer and a bowl of buttered popcorn......but alas, they don't make that device yet...wait! They do! I knew I married her for a reason.....

The Asus Transformer Infinity TF700T not only has the longest name in device history, it is a great device made better by CleanRom and Clemsys Kernel overclocked.....further improved by the Data2SD mods. It's a rockin' device.

Cheers!

Brad

:good:
[Asus Transformer TF700] bk187:
Maybe. I wanted a tablet for a long time but held out until I absolutely had to do a lot of PDF/DOC reading to buy one. I didn't get the Nexus 7 because it was too small or the iPad because iOS was too limited (due to lack of a file browser among other things). I'm also fairly invested in the Google ecosystem.

My biggest hesitation stems from Windows RT and Windows 8. The Surface RT/Vivo Tab RT are similarly powered yet have better office programs. The Surface Pro with Windows legacy app support might also be something I'd consider over the Infinity. I don't consider Splashtop to be an adequate solution since it requires an internet connection, me to leave my desktop on at home, and a large amount of battery usage.

Basically I'm sandwiched between Android's pros for me (customization/better ecosystem/better Google integration) versus Windows RT/8's pros for me (better office suite) which leaves me with my initial answer: maybe. I doubt Windows' ability to close the ecosystem gap anytime soon, though I could be wrong.
[Asus Transformer TF700] StiiLe:
Yes, and yes because of the competition.

First, if I compare my TF700 with other tablets, I really prefer mine ! There are some big advantages, for example the keyboard which is very useful for me, and it is very lightweight anyway. The TF700's screen is so beautiful - TF700 is beautiful in fact. And, it is very smooth for my use : media (movies, music), working everyday (ppt, pdf), internet, RSS, etc. But I am thinking more and more about CleanROM when ASUS updates are less and less complete and stable.

However, I like very much Samsung's multi-windows and PLS technology. I would like to have my TF700 (1080p) with PLS technology and multi-windows by Samsung, without a lag. Also, ASUS could put the speaker somewhere else...

So, at the end, TF700 is the best one for my use, the best compromise, I especially appreciate the keyboard, and the 1080p screen - I could not go back to a smaller screen resolution. Sometimes, I am thinking about "Should I have waited Win8...", but Win8 tablets are very expensive, and the 14 Go only used for the OS are bad points. The TF700 comes first again. When Office will be out for Android (Q2 2013 I hope), it will be a very full ecosystem, and it will be a second breath : I will not need Windows OS anymore for Office (I mean, a computer/laptop).

Edit.

And, I just read a news about Surface RT, I still believe that Android is the (far) best ratio quality/price.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Bagbug:
I just got mine today but Im trading it for a Nexus 10 monday. Extremely laggy. My old Touchpad with CM9 is smoother...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Nothijngrad:
As mine just crapped out for the fourth time this year, no. Liability.
[Asus Transformer TF700] diggeles:
Thanks

Hey guys

I have beenr eading through this thread, really good advice and experiences.

Essentially if I go the route of doing this its the same as all the others, custom ROM's essentially clean up the bloat. Standard kernel tweaking allows the other *safe* operating mode to be overwritten with higher performance, less reliability.

Thank you to everyone. So many replies shows how many people are active with this particular device. I believe I will get it as I was not impressed with the Nexus 10.

Thanks, btw I ran out of thanks to give for today.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] K7Cobb:
Hey. So I was just wondering the Venom team that makes the Viper roms why don't they dev for us they have a lot of nice roms on all the HTC devices that are good any answers?
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
No source code deters most of the development away.
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Coug76:
Cause they don't want to?

Perhaps you could ask them...

Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] mattlowry:
I am attempting to port their rom now but not sure how long it will take
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] K7Cobb:
What's the rom u are trying to port? And I did ask one of the members they never replied
[T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide] Riyal:
They are after devices with large community. Unlike us who are almost like more or less a dozen active members. If you guys really wanted to have this ROM in our devices your best bet is to make a bounty for one of their developers to port it for us. Problem is they don't have members which owns a doubleshot. The DHD and Desire S got their respective port only because torrx which is one of their team members happen to have these devices with him. Already tried contacting them if I could join their team and make a collaboration in porting it on doubleshot but like K7Cobb also didn't get any replies. I have this ROM on my DHD now and I must say impressed with the tweaks. And about the RAM it's similar to virtuous infinity. Only difference regarding performance is that it loads alot more faster than virtuous infinity. Like after rebooting it would only take a minute before you could render the device smooth unlike VI where you need to wait for like 30minutes before it's smooth on 1st boot and 5 minutes on succeeding reboots.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Flamthrowr44:
I was in the bathroom yesterday and my Evo 4g LTE started buzzing a lot. I had no idea what was going on, and the phone was just flashing screens. It was going between my homescreen, and a long-press on the home button(that shows all the screens together). At this point, I figured it was a hardware problem, and I still think it is. The problem is, my phone is unlocked, and it's running CM10 on it. I have no idea what I should do. It always has it's case on(otterbox), and I also have only dropped it a few times in the last month, from only about 2 feet high max. The last time I dropped it was a few nights ago. Once again, it just randomly started doing this. I tried flashing CM10 again, and it didn't help, it still acts like i'm pressing the home button non-stop, even in TWRP. I really need ALL the help I can get. I cannot afford to get a new phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] metalfan78:
Did you flash the stock rom, that would probably let you know if it a custom rom causing the problem? If it still does it, you might need to take it in to get looked at.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mrlakadaddy:
Take the case off and see what happens.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Flamthrowr44:
I took off the case, did not fix it. I flashed stock rom and it did not fix it. Where do I need to go to get it looked at? Sprint i'm assuming?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] metalfan78:
Yeah, make sure it's a corporate store that does repairs, don't go to some third party store, they normally aren't any help.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Flamthrowr44:
Okay, sorry it took me so long to reply. The phone might go a day and do the homescreen thing, but the next day it might work. It hasn't done it since about 2 pm yesterday and now it started up again. I also noticed that when I press on the right side of the screen, it makes a clicking noise. Can I get it repaired even though it's s-off, unlocked bootloader, and has a custom rom on it?