yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thehunt33r:
16gig for me, even if I really managed it bad on my S2 and got my 16GB quickly full, I had to buy a 32GB micro SD Card. So, if i'm careful (and I don't let my download folder more than 3GB) it'll be good :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeRRa4:
I had an 8GB Galaxy S and that was plenty for me. I rooted my HTC Desire to give me 5GB extra "internal" storage space and, again, that was plenty for me, however I feel incredibly inclined to get the 16GB model despite the fact that I probably won't use all that space. I think it's the price that's tempting me... and who knows what apps I might buy in the future? I don't want the risk of possibly filling my phone's memory up.

Also, to confirm..

Source: Nexus 4 (16GB) page on Google Play [Click 'Tech Specs']
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ntt1409:
IMO the 8gb will be ok if you have a small tablet like n7. Games on n7, music and photo on n4.luckily we got cloud for extra storage and usb otg.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scott_doyland:
The 16GB nexus 7 has 13.24GB available for apps/data/content so I would guess the nexus 4 16GB will have the same.

/data and the /sdcard are the same thing, is its just one partition accessed with two different partition names - how they set it up like that I'm unsure, I'm used to IBM's AIX, not Linux or Android, but its logically seperate partitions accessing one physical amount of space.

If you enter 'df' in the console, eg via terminal emulator, you can see this.

So apps/data/content have 13.24GB total to use.

To be honest it seems we loose a lot of space from the formatting and Android itself but that's the figures you see on a nexus 7.

A quick Google suggests just under 6GB on an 8GB nexus 7 is free.

I'd buy the 16GB nexus 4 - if you can afford a nexus 4 you can probably afford the extra for 16GB unless you know 100% you don't need it.

To be honest I probably don't need it as my tiny HTC wildfire s does me just fine but you never know...

Scott
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
Thanks for the analysis on the expected formatted storage space! I was getting worried, but I can live with 13.24 if it ends up holding true
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pham818:
yeah, im probably going to get the 16gb also.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
$50 isn't a lot if you think about it, just cut down on some of the small things you spend on within a week or two is enough to save up that much. However, it doesn't cost LG $50 more to get that 16mb flash memory. It should be 50GB more for that extra $50.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moshe22:
I see it the other way around. I don't see any of the 2 plans as a rip off but the most intelligent decision at least for my wife and I, is the Value plan.

We recently switched from the classic to value and we are now saving about $50 a month.
[Off-topic] UltraSoldier:
Hi!

Could you post examples of usernames I could changes mine into becouse I think UltraSoldier is a bit boring :(
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
"No.jpg" that would be cool.
[Off-topic] a.cid:
DiscoDancer?

"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
PhilipRivers. I guarantee, it's not taken.
[Off-topic] a.cid:
ChangesBecouse would be cool too...

"By the power vested in me, I now pronounce you, Man and Knife"
[Off-topic] loneagl:
Mine is the coolest, but it's already taken:p

":::Sent from the rainforest between the 7 hills:::"
[Off-topic] GuestK00178:
SpecialNoob ?

Sent from my Baconator Over-9000
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
How bout Nooby4Life?
[Off-topic] GuestK00178:
Unfortunately I have no imagination :(

Sent from my Baconator Over-9000
[Off-topic] Faiz Malkani:
UltraSoldier 2 :confused:

Asus TF300T - ZTE Blade | gigatechworld.com
[Off-topic] veeman:
UltraGaySeal

And then change your avatar to the ultra gay seal.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
Not sure if you're Irish, but I've always been fond of the name Seamus McFlannel.

Easier than it sounds, harder than it looks.
[Off-topic] Danial723:
For you.....Jack Hofherson
[Off-topic] loneagl:
Stewjobs?

":::Sent from the rainforest between the 7 hills:::"
[Off-topic] TheSkinnyDrummer:
He hasn't changed names yet....we're failing here.
[Off-topic] loneagl:
Since he doesn't seem to like any, how about - 'Theinnominate'?

":::Sent from the rainforest between the 7 hills:::"
[Off-topic] GuestK00178:
First good idea :p

Sent from my Baconator Over-9000
[Off-topic] iok1:
Megasoldier

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
"Dead thread" might fit quite well

sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-electronics-joins-linaro

What do You guys think about, will it improve updates or something?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dfreake:
maybe for the new nexus

nyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyanyan
[LG Optimus 4X HD] aravinda.kh:
Looking forward for the 4X JB update
[LG Optimus 4X HD] reas0n:
Yeah maybe we'll have faster and nicer update :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] muellersmattes:
You really think they'll update ours? Would be great if we see 4.2 directly, but I doubt we will.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
LG is finally heading in the right direction in the smartphone world. With its build quality, LG should be atop of the Smartphone war pretty soon.

Kudos to you LG.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] heimdallr75:
solved
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).

so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...

If someone has or will have confirm, please write here;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garrethk:
Looks like FM is going the way of IR

Looking at a few of the newer devices iPhone5, and the new Nokia Lumias, looks like the FM radio is dissapearing, like infrared a few years ago.

Guess there is not enough space for everything :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
same story for lg optimus g. So, same hardware, same lack of fm tuner.

The only hope is hw ready and function disabled by sw. i don't think at this point.:(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJHolderUK:
What's FM Radio?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demolatorul:
Serriously? You have not herd a radio station?

You have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it? ...

Just press it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JamesMcL13:
I think he was joking...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJHolderUK:
Sarcasm isn't interpreted very easily over the internet. :P
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GR36:
If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
on nexus there isn't because google aim to increase cloud service in every way. For example, tune in is a better alternative than analog fm tuner in this scenario.

I want only know if they disabled by hw like samsung's nexus or by sw like nexus one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbutters:
Ever since I found the "tune in radio" app I haven't even cared if the hardware actually has FM hardware or not. streaming the same FM stations on this app doesnt even require headphones to be plugged in like most real FM solutions.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satiros:
tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!

radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.

while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.

Any way

easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.

G
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
this is the point.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zivan56:
I wouldn't have issues with omitting it due to the cost. However, all recent ones have had a bluetooth chip with built in FM but with a disconnected antenna. Connecting the proper pin to the headphone jack can't cost that much.

The only reason I can see for this is to force people to use data due to carrier pressure or the radio tax in parts of Europe on devices capable of FM reception.

FM is much quicker than tunein radio. I have tunein radio pro and it finds stations hundreds of km's away as local but puts local ones as far away. It also takes time to buffer/etc and prevents you from scanning location stations quickly. So at best its a mediocre replacement.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidXed:
They r doin away with FM radio Cuz u can't make money from it.. they got plenty of apps u can use. ex. "I heart radio, tune in " which they can make money off of data use....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowplod:
Looks like I'm going to whoosh through my data allowance with no FM radio, I listen to it all the time
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] filikindri:
FM analog radio is important for me. Streaming use internet connection and here, at my country, it is not cheap. I've got 350MB a month, so I have to look after data waste.

Silly question, ¿how many data use streaming fm?. ! hour listening to radio station = x MB.. What is,, not exactly but nearby, the amount of MB used???

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] @home:
+1 for having an FM radio.

Google re getting a daft as apple - Missing things off there devices - Being Vanilla doesn't make up for it.

Put an FM radio on FFS - Not that hard or costly
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krewcal13:
Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcls:
Radio isn't "Old Tech". Hundreds of millions of people listen to the radio in their cars every day. Its free music, it's the weather, it's the news, its entertainment, all without the use of a data plan.

It's not a deal breaker for me that the N4 doesn't have it, but its still a bit disappointing.

Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caxio:
you can share the Nexus 4 LG-E960 service manual?

thanks

Caxio
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikereidis:
Google for EN_LG-E960_SVC_ENG_121121.pdf

Eg: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...pw0QzUpbVh5GsId0ZhyXw&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.dmQ
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikereidis:
Thanks !

Yes, I've looked and I think we're at a dead end again.

Unless someone can prove/disprove the PCB antenna connections or find a way that software might be preventing FM, I don't see any other avenues of attack at this time.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Mindroid-:
Hi guys,

I'm wrestling with the audio drivers for the Nexus 4. I'm using ALSA to look up what audio streams and functions are

available on the audio device. FM Radio is referenced a lot. Since the audio on the Nexus 4 is programmed outright horribly

there is a small possibility that FM Radio could be disabled (or unintentionally left out) in the Audio Mixer.

I'm a total noob and it will be helpful if an experienced developer takes a look at what is going in there.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2098066&page=2
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craggy_island:
This isn't an audio issue. The issue is that there is no fm signal received. This suggests that the antenna pin of the chip isn't physically connected to an antenna ot there is still some undiscovered way of activating the antenna through software. This, though, is, unfortunately, highly unlikely.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haverlok:
All hope is gone? :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quinny899:
Yes, and it has been since that last post. Please don't bump old topics like this
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sfkn2:
Thanks for the update. I was curious about this and had trouble searching.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haverlok:
Sorry, but here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13380058&postcount=2 say than are in ongoing Investigations. But It's clear now thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikereidis:
That post of mine was last updated Dec 20.

Since then I've concluded chances for FM are less than 1%.

But you NEVER know.

I've heard a few rumors of FM enabling on Nexus 7. I hope, but I doubt.

Sprint has a deal with the broadcasters to allegedly put FM in 30 million phones over 3 years. Other carrier negotiations are being attempted. It may go well or may fall flat.

If it goes well, there is the possibility that FM capabilities might be retroactively enabled in some devices.

At one point, the "rumor" of broadcasters paying for FM chips/capability seemed a bit out there. Now it's confirmed and who knows what's next.

I noted also the removal of the AWS LTE bands by Google. Many modern phones have hidden chip internal switches and security fuses, and who know what might have a switch on it.

So never say never. But I'm not spending time investigating unless there is new news.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
The ridiculous thing is that, here in europe, optimus G has fm radio...so so bad for google and Lg.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikereidis:
Really ? When I looked a few months ago, nobody seemed to have an Optimus G with working FM or a stock FM app.

And this despite initial early reports of FM.

The service manual indicated they abandoned plans for FM support.

The PCB likely has room for a few cheap components that a master micro-solderer with thousands of dollars of equipment could install. (IE, everybody forget about, at least unless your courageous enough to open it up, poke wires in and have a usable kernel etc.)

The rumors about Nexus 7 FM were due to people mis-interpreting the "alleged CM10 FM app". People with every phone on CM get excited when they see FM mentioned in the CM change logs. This despite that it only applies to Xperia S and maybe T. Every other device gets a useless library that doesn't work, but that may or may not work at some future time, if anyone gets around to it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
yes, you can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VGTnUjGFgwU#! at 4.37 and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIs_LhlTGg at 13.13.

This is the italian version but i think that all europeans one are the same.

here you can find the source code: https://wws.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=NAME&search=e975 but i don't know if it will helps...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikereidis:
Thanks for the info.

No, kernel code is the least of the concerns. No software can help if the components and traces aren't on the PCB.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
so, still no hopes, right?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikereidis:
Yes, that is correct.

But I, and everybody else with an opinion, proclaimed the original Motorola Droid incapable of FM audio (RSSI and RDS worked with my app) for a few years. Then someone built a ROM and got it working.

So I try never to say never, even if I estimate chances are less than 1% or 0.1%.

For all we know there could be a cryptographic lock, with or without permanent e-fuses on the FM.

I've stopped looking and won't re-look unless I stumble across some promising info.

Sony makes some decent BT headsets with FM built in. And if you don't mind a USB dongle and lots of CPU/battery use, you can look at this SDR app: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38887290&postcount=5603
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m11kkaa:
I don't know about the hardware capatibilities but google has added support for fmradio in kernel but it's disabled:

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/lge-...arch/arm/mach-msm/lge/mako/board-mako.c#L1156
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HQuser:
Frequency modulation :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lbertking:
ADVANCES

Can enable the e970 fm?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adipec:
maybe ,just try u dont brick anything,jest reflash stock IF something went wrong
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] contapapo:
That would be great.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
i'm not alone!!!:D

the best chance is chipset, plugged antenna and no sw support. Miui or CM will do the rest;)

OPTIMUS G specs:

Key features

•Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE support

•3G with HSPA; LTE

•4.7" 16M-color WXGA True HD IPS Plus (768 x 1280 pixels) capacitive touchscreen, Gorilla Glass

•Android OS v4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich, planned upgrade to 4.1 Jelly Bean, LG Optimus UI 3.0

•Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU, 2 GB RAM, Adreno 320 GPU, Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset

•13 MP autofocus camera with LED flash and geotagging, image stabilization, Time catch shot, smart shutter

•1080p video recording @ 30fps with continuous autofocus and stereo sound

•1.3 MP front-facing camera, 720p video recording

•Wi-Fi a/b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct and DLNA

•GPS with A-GPS, GLONASS

•32GB of built-in storage

•MHL-enabled microUSB port, USB host support

•Bluetooth v4.0

•Standard 3.5 mm audio jack

•Stereo FM radio with RDS

•Voice dialing

•Two app overlay mode for multi-tasking (Q Slide)

•Independent content output through MHL (Dual Screen Dual Play)

•Accelerometer and proximity sensor

•Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FISKER_Q:
The Galaxy Nexus came with FM Radio support as well, but as it turned out the FM Radio pin outs weren't connected so it was impossible to support FM Radio.

They probably did the same here.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
i know this but, lg usually did unusual things. Optimus 7 had mfg unlockable, optimus one was ipermoddable...

"hope is last to die";)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theoneofgod:
All the Radio is around here is adverts. Sick of it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LenAsh:
No FM Radio is a deal breaker for me. Whilst realising this is above all a "telephone", some of us don't have data plans and/or 3G coverage that allows streaming on the go from the likes of TuneIn (good as it is). Many of us use off air radio when doing other things (some of us need/want to spend time exercising outside, for instance) and carrying more than one battery powered device is a no-no (and largely pointless given how much we already paid for the one device).

For the cost of a Silabs FM chip (<$2 in thousands off) and about 6sq mm in PCB real estate, the reasons for NOT including this can only be commercial in a sinister way. Money/Carrier Collusion.

Shame.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] @home:
If LG can an FM radio in the handset, then it's wrong that Google's removed it.

If it's there & you don't use it fine.

If it's not there, I have that choice taken from me.

Apple all over. Put an FM radio in please
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 121C4:
An analog FM radio is cheap, small, light on power and easy to buy. Hell, you can even buy wind up radio. Just buy one with the change you get from the money you would have spent on a top spec phone with a radio. And have plenty more change left over.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maconsultant:
The FM radio in my Galaxy S3 worked just fine during hurricane Sandy on the East coast. I was very glad when i remembered it had one, It really came in handy. I never was one to care about an FM radio in a phone, but now i feel it should be a manditory addition.

Sent from another Galaxy...

Tab 7.7 GT-P6800..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vuvuxela:
+1

When I go to hiking at the countryside which without 3G coverage, FM radio is so important for getting information from outside.

If google take this out from N4 at HW level, I will be very very disappointed.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fishingfon:
I use tune in (I got it on the 25 cents same a month back ) and it beats the sh*t out of FM radio,

I have hundreds more stations, can record radio, pause it, and I don't have to use ear phones, but I get 5gb of data a month, so data isn't a issue for me

Corey
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peyman_dinani:
I did a bit of searching and I found that the hardware is there.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1964850

nexus 4 SOC is Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 which does include a FM radio chip.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] munkustrap:
Maybe not a deal breake for mer, but still better if we could have it. Even some of you chaps in the States can find FM useful, how about those 95% of the planet's popultation living in all the other pathetic worlds without stable/affordable internet connection? And those who travels all over the world but can't agree with operator's monstrous roaming data charges? After all, isn't it more cool if we have something IP doesn't have and the GS3/GNote 2 have?

I'll keep my fingers crossed(LG/Google hasn't disable it in hw) and pray for the almighty developers.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FISKER_Q:
The hardware was there for the Galaxy Nexus as well, the issue is that the pinouts weren't even soldered so even if you did port the relevant drivers and applications it still wouldn't function as there is no physical connection to the FM Radio.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peyman_dinani:
Isn't the FM radio chip part of APQ8064 SOC? but you are right there are probably many other level to it that they can easily disable it at some point in the connections between che chips.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
Google hates FM. All new nexus phones will have it disabled, no question
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FISKER_Q:
Yeah the Galaxy Nexus had a FM Radio in the Bluetooth SoC, but no antenna, and seemingly no way to access the FM hardware either way.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcwindz:
How I sorely miss FM radio function on a phone.

This phone is almost perfect, just that 16 GB memory and this FM radio that always come to my mind.

If only the G was the nexus
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LenAsh:
Does the OG have FM Radio confirmed by anyone who has actually used it???? Can't find any evidence that it has. Can find evidence that so far the phone is a bit crap in parts!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
about fm radio no...but korean version of Optimus g has Tv Tuner as you can see here LOL :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirpi:
I am really sad to see Google (a so-called do-no-evil company) does this. I really like them as a firm (mostly) but why not connect the pins? My Nexus One can have FM radio even though Google disabled it because it was a soft-mod. I now use a Nexus S and can't listen to FM radio.

I think it should be possible to use the FM radio with a simple hard-mod (i.e. very little soldering?) but the devs in the US doesn't seem to have the motive.

Bad as they are, natural disasters are a real business case to activate the FM radio. Could we ask Google somewhere for this option on the Product forum and such? Removal of the radio cable was most probably a marketing/sales move and techies may help solve this. Or if this was forced on Google by "evil" carriers, they are now out of the picture with Nexus 4, and somebody forgot to put FM radio back in?

Or better yet, could we contact a Google PR person referencing the annual hurricanes? (I'm from Turkey but I think we also have an ample understanding of disaster situations, i.e. eathquakes) Maybe even FEMA could help make this case..

(By the way, this lack of radio, 3G Voice call (not using data and special software) and lack of microsd is the only things that bug me in Nexus phones. If only Note II had a dual carrier, this wouldn't even be a real competition..)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssauger:
Something interesting from Dev of Spirit FM is here. Maybe there is a little hope for FM on the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
How is that evil to disable it on a single line of phones, specially selected by Google itself? It would be evil if they made it mandatory that no Android phone could ever have FM capabilities, but they don't.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borich:
now the question is: who will sent a debug file?:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FISKER_Q:
Google will not include FM Radio support until AOSP supports it.

It has nothing to do with marketing or sales.