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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
At this rate the same time as the nexus 5 maybe 6 really pi$$ing me off now is this...

Int

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
Doesn't look like the UK is going to get it.

Time for a favour from a few of my american friends i think.

How much is the Orb on the playstore in the US (including shipping)?

Then i have to get them to ship it to the UK? Cheapest way i found was going through the US Postal service and calculating it on their website. Just need a weight so i can get a price... I guessed no more that 1 1/2 pounds which is around $18?

Any further advice would be great
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
Screw them UK haters like most companies they treat us like sh1t, I have ordered another QI charger Google can stick theirs where the sun does not shine!

Int

Sent from my Nexus 4 via smoke signals
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
My orb was 71 dollars shipped. I live in NY so the tax on the orb was excessive.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Blame your govt. Things like these are almost always caused by certification delays. Im sure there are 3-4 agencies with their fingers in the pie (telecom, power, wireless, fire safety) etc. Same goes for the store, it takes local agreements to even deliver digital content.

People often think the world is globalized and its one big huggy party but in reality working internationally is a major *****, the red tape is rediculous. And Im not dogging on the UK itself, the USA has some serious (and inconsistent) BS. The little guys can usually fly under the radar (although I know a few $100k and less revenue guys who have gotten pinched and fined because they missed regulation "100.43Xa.10012URA Section 437.8" of the West East Anglia Trade Regulations. The big guys have no chance of getting under the radar.

In some ways you Europeans have it good, like cars. We dont get any of those fun little independents like Noble because our regulatory system makes it just too damned costly to import them.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KiNG OMaR:
I live in Chicago and the orb cost me $72.25. How about that for excessive tax :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
You should see the price of the dodge challenger and the likes here soon turns into a £60k that's pounds not dollars and don't even get me started on fuel prices lol

Int

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
Fuel prices!

Just so our American friends now how much we pay in the UK for fuel!

Diesel at the moment is £1.47 per litre, that's $2.22 per litre. 1 gallon = 4.55 litres so for 1 gallon of diesel it is $10.10!!!!!

I know you guys in the US complain about about fuel prices when they are $4/gal!

Anyway...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] traybourne:
It's now available for us Canadians to buy!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
If anyone cares in the UK the Official bumper is back in stock!

Still no sign of this orb!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
I think it's 4.6xx here, in America it's 3.8xx only know this from buying American nitro fuel..

Just why they felt the need to make their own gallon beats me apart from confusion which probably benefited someone at the time...

Int

Sent from my Nexus 4 via smoke signals
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
Still.. expensive in the UK! :silly:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DizzC:
Did a quick search and found no results so I thought I would ask. Does anyone know if the Meifeng quicksand case works with the orb? Its currently my favourite case by far and if it doesn't work with the orb I may look at alternative wireless chargers. Thanks /:D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
Looks like you answered your own question
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
After almost exactly one month, last night my phone (in it's case) didn't want to stick very well to the orb. A little investigation showed it was because of dust on the orb. I ran a lint roller over it, as I did a month ago when it was new, and that made the phone stick like crazy again.

I can't stress enough how well a lint roller works to clean the orb. One roll-over, and it's perfectly clean and sticky. If I have to do this once a month to keep it working well, I'm fine with that, because of how convenient it is as a bed-side charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
How well does it stick to the orb with a backside glass protector on? I got an Xtremeguard back protector on mine right now that so why I ask
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
I have this Case-Ology case from eBay, and it sticks really well to that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
<--- Jealous!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
Or some Scotch tape, just dab around the ring! Works great and good as new!

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enigmaco:
Just got my zen wireless charger in the mail today and it works great paid $44 for it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vodred:
Does it hold the phone in landscape position and what about throttling and overheat isn't it bad for the battery to wach a movie while it charges?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danlo:
I want to +1 this suggestion. Mine just started slipping right before I read this post. Used a lint roller on the orb and it is as good as the first day I got it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
how long does it take to charge fully from 0% to 100%? normal wired ac is around 2hours - 2.5hours i think
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
Anyone's orb have some circular dots appearing between the outer bezel and the ring? I just noticed some circular dot outlines at the left, right, and the top. They are all equidistant from each other.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moe6:
Yes it can hold in landscape.

Throttling exists to keep temp at a certain point. Even throttled, more likely than not, the movie will play just fine and the heat wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary that wasn't already tested for.

If you thought the N4 gets hot, you should try a Galaxy Nexus. My old GN spent a good bit of time in a car dock + charging + tropical heat as well.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dispatch:
Same issue here. They DID in fact charge my credit card on 03/02. I have the statement in front of me; its not simply an authorization.

I just called them and got the same statement as above. I told them to cancel the order and if I don't see the refund in 48 hours I will file a chargeback.

I don't fault Puremobile for the stocking issue, but I do fault them for charging my credit card when the original order confirmation said they wouldn't until they had the item in stock.

EDIT: I should've heeded other XDA members' advice in not purchasing from PureMobile. I won't make that mistake again.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdh007:
Yep, I was mistaken. I'm somewhat familiar with merchant agreements and didn't think they'd charge the cards before shipping.

Other members on redflagdeals have confirmed that their cards have indeed been charged and puremobiles response to this is that they want to ship it out the units as soon they come in.

When you spoke to them, did they give you an estimate on when stock is coming in? One guy in redflagdeals said he was quoted early April........

Its ironic because they've deleted their blog post about the wireless orb. I wish I had kept a screenshot of it because they mentioned how they're planning on getting stock before Google.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vodred:
and how did the battery came out in long term,timeworn?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RueTheDay:
I don't get why people complain that their phones slip off. I literally have to use 2 hands to separate my Nexus from the orb, otherwise I'll end up picking the orb off my desk with the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
Are you using a case on your phone or a screen protector for the back?

The people with slipping issues tend to be placing the naked N4 glass back on the orb and there isn't enough friction with some of the orbs to keep it from sliding off.

I also think humidity is a factor in this whole thing. Ever notice how your finger will glide over a phone's surface when the air is cool and dry while it will catch more on the glass when it is warm and humid (or when you are perspiring)? Cold and dry winter climates up north could be contributing to a loss of friction between the rubber orb ring and the N4's glass back.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RueTheDay:
Just the bumper. And it's dry as all hell here.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
You must have one from the good batch.

The majority of my survey responses using a naked glass back with or without a bumper are getting slippage.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdh007:
All these reports about slippage have discouraged me from buying the orb.. I'm thinking of cancelling my pre-order with puremobile and going for the LG WCP-300 now that it's being shipped internationally on eBay.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R0N1N:
Just got mine, anyone tried the N4's adapter to power it? I am at the office and would like not to have to carry the wire and adapter back and forth and use the N4's adapter to power the orb.

Cheers

EDIT: It's ok works fine same amperage.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
It's actually the same voltage, but the orb's adapter is rated at 1.8A vs 1.2A for the N4 adapter.

It is strongly suggested to use the orb adapter for the orb, though the N4 adapter may still work, and result in a slower charging profile.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oupavoc:
The Google Charging Orb is in stock to Canadian Consumers now :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zxyz:
Just ordered mine! Hope it doesn't slip. :highfive::good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ieatacid:
I just got my orb today and was surprised to find that it even works with the Seidio Convert case. I purchased a Seidio Active after reading on here that it worked with the orb, but it's good that now I can use either one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falcon26:
Can you use a case with the ORB? I've got the Google Bumper case and another case....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Q.Entity:
Yes you can. Works with most cases.

Sendt fra Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldrn:
It works better with a case than without, in my experience.

Without a case I sometimes find it slid off, especially my "home" orb. (The one I keep at work seems grippier.) With a case, it stays still. :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yokuyuki:
Uh, it's definitely not the same amperage. The Nexus 4 adapter is 1.2A and the charging orb adapter is 1.8A. I'm not sure if that affects the charging speed though. I have to use the Nexus 4 adapter because they sent me a faulty one with the charging orb.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elwilson4:
I used the adapter that came with my phone when I first received the orb. I had issues charging overnight. I would pull the phone off the charger after 6-8 hrs and it would be in the 60's even with daydream off. After switching to the adapter that came with the orb I've not had any issues charging even with daydream on. The extra 0.6A are really useful.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkelly517:
The output for the orb charger is only 1 amp.

Though now that I think about it, that may have been for the entire assembly. My orb lives at work, so I don't have it near to check.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
I've got my orb at home.

The wall charger accepts AC power and outputs 5V/1.8A

The orb receives the 5V/1.8A power and outputs 5V/1.0A

This compares to plugging in the N4 to its wall charger that provides 5V/1.2A, so you can see that charging via orb will be a little slower.

Now if you use the N4's wall charger to plug into the orb, there's where you are taking away 0.6A of current the orb was expecting from the wall, and the orb's output may only be 5V/0.4A in that scenario (it's been a while since i took physics E&M). This would translate to a rate one third of direct charging with the N4 wall charger, which is what elwilson4 seemed to have experienced firsthand.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pkelly517:
And without the internal schematics of the entire circuit, we're all just guessing as to how quickly the N4 will charge.

Offhand, I'd guess that the charging circuit for the N4 would be limiting the input current to well below a full amp pretty early in the cycle. Maybe I'll do a search for my Kill-a-Watt and check the supply currents of different chargers.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micks_address:
hi guys,

if i import the Orb from the US, I will need to swap the charging chord to one EU/UK 3 point plug. Is there any issue doing this? What should i be looking for in terms of amps etc

Thanks,

Mick
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammer2007:
Is there a reason why you want to change the orb adapter? when you can do it easier by buying a travel adapter.The orb will work anywhere with $2 travel adapter.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] micks_address:
so i can just use a travel adapter? it will accept the 220 volts we have over here?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
Just about everything made nowadays will run on either voltage

Int

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
I'll just confirm with my own charger, it says it accepts 100-240V @ 50-60Hz so you'll be fine with a travel adapter.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkShot666:
Bumping again, because it's pointless to make another thread for now.

Anyone get any word from Puremobile about the chargers?

They charged my card almost a month ago, and it's April already with no word. Just wanted to know if anyone else has heard something from them.

edit: Looks like they're getting them later than expected.

Nice to know they decided to charge me almost 2 months in advance.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogoshin:
I have a qt charger bought on eBay, when i use it, my battery time is about half. What is the experience with the ORB, regarding how long the battery lasts.

Sendt fra min Nexus 7 med Tapatalk2
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dispatch:
I had them refund me because of their lies! I didn't heed the warnings of other XDA members about puremobile but I will not patron them again!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Niko838:
Does anyone know of a shop that would ship the orb to Finland for a reasonable price?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogoshin:
Check on Ebay, i just got mine from there. :victory:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
Does the wireless orb keep e Nexus 4 topped uo

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
Yes with a "but". The orb will stop charging at 100% and then let the phone drop to about 95% before it charges back up to 100% it does hold the 100% for a while. I could post my charging stats if you want.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
Here's a pic. It's not as bad as I remembered, but you can still see it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
Finally decided to buy one of these :D

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattkroeder:
Is it just me or does anyone else find that the screen doesn't always activate when you place your N4 on the orb?

When you place the N4 on the orb, the screen turns on and it makes a sound indicating that it's charging. But half the time, it doesn't react at all. It still charges but there's no indication so I find myself manually turning the screen on and checking, just in case.

Just a minor annoyance.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
I have noticed this too. It seems to happen mostly when the phone is already on the charger then I take it off and put it back on fast. Its like it didn't have time to reset itself to register the notification sound or something.

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Yep, I get that with my Maxell charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
So its defiantly a phone thing not a charger thing. :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jabbeboy:
Sorry for à revetive question, but does the Orb workshops well with Rearth slim case?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daneoni:
Can anyone recommend where to buy this in Europe? I cant get it from play store since I live in Finland. I know one retailer in Finland that sells it for 75€ but I think it is a bit overpriced :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Niko838:
I bought mine from eBay, hasn't arrived yet, so customs and whatnot might add some extra to the price but I paid 85 € for the thing including shipping. Verkkokauppa.com sells the orb for 75 € (not in stock yet). Considering the price I paid, that's an okay price imo...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daneoni:
I ordered this from Verkkokauppa.com. I was hoping to get it cheaper somewhere around Europe...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Niko838:
Well, I ordered mine from the U.S and I'll have to pay customs about 20 € so the total price goes to 105 € :D anyways I'll doubt you'll get it much cheaper from other countries. You could try eBay or some such site I guess... And if the product is cheaper than 75, remember you'll have to pay postage as well if you order from other countries
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
This bug is still apparently present in 4.3, but the above solution should still work, if you are rooted.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobdude:
What does that fix? The lack of notification when plugging in for charge or the timeout on the dispaly even when using daydream?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
It makes the "Stay awake" setting in Developer options work in wireless charging mode. I don't use Daydream, but it should apply there, as well.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobdude:
Thanks for thre the quick response
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
To clarify the issue more, on a rooted device you can use the svc utility to send commands the system power service. That service does properly recognize wireless charging mode, so when you tell it stayon true, it stays on even when using the Orb, as it should. The problem is that the Developer options user interface is missing that bit of code. I'm not set up to submit official patches, but I posted in the official bug report the exact line that needs to be fixed in the Developer options source code. It apparently wasn't noticed or wasn't high-priority enough to fix for 4.3.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doumer:
I have exact the same issue: my phone stays at 85% and is Damn hot about 55°C battery temp. Also slipping is a problem although I regularly clean it.

Is there anything I can do about our just stop using it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cproaudio:
I noticed that with 4.2.2, the wireless charging stops charging once reached 100% then the phone operates like it's unplugged. I wake up in the morning with 95% battery. With 4.3, the wireless charging never deactivates and keeps the phone at 100% through out the night. Will test again tomorrow to confirm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anwedr:
I have that occurring even on 4.2.2.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
what did people do about the slippage?

I was using a Ringke fusion case for the longest time and ever since the price cut to $199/$249 I said SCREW IT, if I mess up my phone I'll buy a new one, so I ripped off my Ringke fusion and have been going with the official bumper only. Apparently the glass back is not enough for the ORB. I never had slippage issues on my Ringke fusion and I even cleaned my orb to make sure there's no dust on it now and it's slipping out of control. Ugh.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
I gave up after 3 replacement orbs. The glass back on my phone simply does not have sufficient friction against the orb to prevent slipping, no matter how clean the surfaces are. Maybe my glass is just way too smooth. It would have helped if they made the contact point not just the inner ring of the orb, but the whole circular interior of that ring. More surface area to provide a counter force to gravity pulling on the phone.

Currently waiting on production of the TYLT VU to get an angled charger that suits my needs.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solutions Etcetera:
I think heat is one cause. When I first got mine I thought all of you were nuts as it stuck like glue. But that was at a time of year when it was cold out (cooler indoor temperatures with lower humidity). Now that things have warmed up, mine slips all the time.

What I do now is simply put the phone on it upside down, so that the top of the phone is already touching the surface that the orb is sitting on. Problem solved, but it makes it pretty tough to use the phone when it's sitting on the charger this way.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Is the coil closer to the lower half of the phone?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solutions Etcetera:
Yup.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] incantevole:
I still think everyone is nuts. Ordered my Oren the day it came or and has stuck like glue since day one. Official bumper, clean scratch free glass.

N4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I have a screen protector on the back, zero slippage.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krunk83:
I just refunded mine. The orb is a complete joke. Total design flaw. Why couldn't they have just made it flat? Boggles the mind. I'll be looking forward to getting my $69.99 for this complete waste of money back and stick to plugging in to charge.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kookas:
I like that it's not flat in principle; it means you can keep the phone at a comfortable angle. It's just a shame it doesn't actually work.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epidemic11:
Seriously guys, I don't understand how the phone would slip off the charger. Mine is in portrait mode with the bottom touching the table and it doesn't slip off. I even have the Poetic Atmosphere on. :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
It's not suppose to touch the table. The charging coils are aligned when the phone is centered between the nexus and LG logos when placed on the orb. You can still usually get a charge with a lower alignment, but the current transfer isn't as efficient and you have a slower rate of charge.

The point people are making is that usually without a back cover or screen protector, having the phone "properly aligned" for charging results in their phone eventually sliding down the orb and losing contact. The amount of friction between the phone and the orb depends not only on the cleanliness of the surfaces, but also the temperature and humidity in the room. I'd guess that people that have the slipping problem are in a drier environment vs the average user.

A comparison of how much humidity factors into friction: Some will notice how easily they can slide their finger over the front glass screen (no protector) in the dry winter time, but in the more humid summer months, the screen doesn't feel as smooth and you can feel the increase in friction.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epidemic11:
Oh I see.. I adjusted my phone a bit. Now it's raised above the surface around 8cm I guess. In relation to the humidity, I guess I'm lucky enough to live somewhere with 29 degrees celsius with 70% humidity :eek:

Thanks for the quick info!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krunk83:
Mine suck fine with a case. But the phone itself doesn't stick. Try it one night.

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