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[Galaxy S II General] razor 116:
Definitely getting the Nexus 4, The price is unbelievable. It has specs that should last to mid to late 2013 (Exynos is dual core Cortex A15), the nexus has two more cores than the upcoming Exynos 5 with extremely similar architectures (A15). And also this is the first nexus with hardware that is not only high end but possibly the best in the smartphone android space. Ohh and 2GB RAM.
[Galaxy S II General] anubius:
Definetlly not. I thing SGS2 still can last. For me the biggest issue is the lack of space. I can not believe they will be releasing the 8 GB version. Who is living with 8 GB of space now? This is crazy. Nevertheless having pure Google out of the box is good choice for the future. So maybe next time then.
[Galaxy S II General] GuestK00135:
No because i buyd s2 three weeks ago and nexus 4 is too expensive for me
[Galaxy S II General] DjeMBeY:
I'm thinking about selling my SGSII and getting N4. First of all S2 is getting old... ;) Future support .... No one knows.... ;( Still good value ;)

LG Nexus 4 as everything else have prons and cons but after all is a winner to me!! :) Limited storage and locked battery (2100 Li-Pol) is a bit disappointing but I can live with that :) Online storage is an alternative.. On the other hand we have a 2GB RAM!! (no LTE on-board so all of it go for system!!) Superb 1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro, awesome GPU and lovely screen.. That's only few things MUCH better than SGS2. Should be supported by CM & AOKP Teams as well. ;)

My main point is DC-HSPA+ (up to 42Mbps!!!) I'm on UK THREE and have unlimited data. They upgraded network and DC-HSPA is up and running!!! Ppl from London getting DL speeds up to 20Mbps!!! Faster than new EE 4GEE!!! ;)

For as little as £279 (16GB) you can't go wrong.. ;) I'll wait for tests and than decide...
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Thanks for voting and expressing opinions. Myself, if in a dilemma between yes and maybe.

Look how close the poll results are :) nearly everyone is split
[Galaxy S II General] Deeco7:
I will definitely make the switch, fed up with Samsung crap. Not saying the S2 is bad, but I need a change.

My only dilemma is, if I should order the 16GB or wait until (if) a 32 GB comes out
[Galaxy S II General] iamflamez:
all it needed was a simple sd slot, and id have been all over it.
[Galaxy S II General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Me. I know there's a lot of downsides. Here goes my complaints:

- No global LTE? Ok fine I guess not many people use LTE worldwide yet, but I'm in the US. Was hoping for maybe including AT&T bands. You can still do that while going unlocked, but of course Google wouldn't upset a fellow US company.

- Capacity. Come on. HTC learned with its One X that 16gb isn't enough. 32/64gb looks like a good spec. Even if Google wanted to be conservative, 16/32gb would've been nice. 8/16 gb? Come on. The iPhone 3G had that combination at launch.

- Why the hell is the notification LED on the bottom? Ugly. But beats BLN.

- I hate on screen buttons. That 4.7" screen becomes a 4.45" screen effectively.

- No microSD: builds on the capacity issue. 16gb + 32gb on my SGS2 is really nice.

Don't want to move too far OT, but if they succeed in unlocking or getting an unlocked bootloader exploit for the LG Optimus G, wouldn't it make more sens to jump on that phone instead of the Nexus 4? This is assuming development work can be leveraged for the Optimus G.
[Galaxy S II General] bundi22:
Very tempting, since I have been running CM9 & CM10 on my S2 for a while now however there is no full native support for the latest and future versions of android.

Best option is to wait until christmas, and if Samsung don't release JB update/sources then I will get the Nexus 4!
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
I voted maybe. I'm fine with Touchwiz as it gets out of it's own way. Apex Launcher, Beautiful Widget, and APW Calendar, and I'm happy. Having "Android" out of date by 1-2 versions is fine as Touchwiz offers some features not found in vanilla Android.

However, I prefer to treat my phone as a PC. On my desktop, I have a Core2Quad Q6600, and I planned for awhile to wait until Haswell, which comes out this upcoming summer. Same concept on my mobile computer, my phone. I wanted to wait until a quad-core A15-based CPU, and I will continue to wait. Those will be out soon. Not a fan of Snapdragon. Nice performance but Qualcomm tends to sacrifice in some key areas. Don't get me wrong, it's a definite upgrade. I'm going to list my SGS2 for sale, and if I can get $300+, then I'll do the upgrade for $50. But if I can't get that, I'll wait. In either case, SGS2 or Nexus 4, I'll ditch it in a heartbeat when A15 quad-core is out, depending on device of course. Not going for the first quad from a manufacturer known for abandoning their devices after launch. My next device will likely be the Galaxy S4 (if Exynos 5450), or the "Nexus 5."
[Galaxy S II General] Tk1917:
Would love to, looks sweet, but I still have a year left on my s2 contract. Regardless, still think my s2 has a lot of life in it so I am not too bothered!
[Galaxy S II General] match_stick:
I'm not due an upgrade until August 2013... nexus 5 for me then!

sent from the unknown
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Ordered today :D Bye bye exynos crap and yamahell ^^
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Don't forget to come back here once Bat man's back gets broken by Bane (Glass back of N4) :p

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Nah, then it will be my fault...

I never managed to break a screen of a phone yet, don't see a difference between front and back chances for breaking....
[Galaxy S II General] anubius:
Its back in Germany as well. But I just wonder why not better upgrade to S3 rather then N4? You can buy S3 now for 360 euro almost new.
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
1 word: AOSP

(actually 4^^)
[Galaxy S II General] TheATHEiST:
Why on earth would that be a deal breaker when you can get AOSP on just about any decent device which is majority of cases is better then "official" builds.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Got mine ordered yesterday
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
Because its nothing like AOSP on nexus device

Also look at the current state of AOSP on S2 and look at the old nexus s...
[Galaxy S II General] Unexist6969:
I guess vsync build + dorimanx kernel(lots of 3.7 & 3.4 kernel) is almost nexus4-like, imo better than gnex.
[Galaxy S II General] chris2busy:
Yeah.....no.
[Galaxy S II General] jahkno:
Was thinking about it. Supply is too constrained though. Maybe I'll reconsider when they're actually in stock.

I'm worried about that glass on the back breaking
[Galaxy S II General] PantsDownJedi:
The price is great, but glass on the back and on a bigger phone is a recipe for disaster. This in addition to a camera that isn't as good.

One day, I will design my own smartphone. It will have a large screen but be small in the hand. It will have an 8 core processor and 4 core GPU, a screen that can be easily seen on the brightest day, the battery will last for a week under full load, it will take pictures that rival high end $3000 camera's. It will shoot pepper-spray from the noise cancellation mic and exploding darts from the headphone jack. The light sabre option will cost extra.
[Galaxy S II General] blackaholic:
No, I will stay on S2 at least 1 year. Since I'm still love my S2 right now :D
[Galaxy S II General] dannyling:
Still waiting for offical jelly bean , so I thought sod it ,buy it maybe Samsung or HTC will learn about customer loyalty
[Galaxy S II General] durangatang:
Need at least 32gb version before thinking about switching...
[Galaxy S II General] levito82:
I ordered one, but there's still 4 weeks to go with my SGS2. At the moment I really like it after I flashed Chameleon ROM. But I know I'm be restless and would flash more and more different ROMs. My SD card is mostly filled with ROM backups. Every ROM has bugs here and there, and they annoy me and steal my time. So I'm really looking forward to a no-brainer phone. 16GB is tight, hardly enough, but the time I'll win is priceless. Thank you Samsung for this lesson - only Nexus from now on!
[Galaxy S II General] NoRulesForMe:
Maybe i try to buy Nexus 4 on Jan2013.
[Galaxy S II General] yakie996:
waiting for a galaxy s4 :D
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
Yeah, a 32 GB would have been the ideal deal. But I can't stand Samsung anymore. Lesson learnt here as well. Their ROMs are ugly and updates are slow to come. On top of that they don't support devs so you can't even leave their ugly touchwiz ROMs :(. Galaxy line is the best when it comes to tech specs but they ruined the software part

I got my nexus 4, now I'll sell off my s2 after a few days
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
I play with an nexus 4, i don't like screen buttons at all, they cut my space.

Its hotter then even s2. Its fast. I don't like its touchscreen. That stupid back glass is hot in games.

I saw glow effect from ips panel.

If i got it from 350 euro, it s ok. But i can't buy it from gplay in Romania.

I love Sammy rom, i freeze some bloat, put an custom kernel and that is it.

I don't like simple roms like.nexus rom.

Galaxy powered by GM and Dorimanx
[Galaxy S II General] linkinparkfan007:
I just got this in August so atleast not for now :)

Besides my next phone will always have double the Cores so i'm expecting 8 or 6 :)
[Galaxy S II General] Starlith:
Just got my nexus 4 and it's a beautifully crafted phone and one of the best user experiences out of the box. I still have my galaxy s2 as a credible backup as it has served me well since it's release. I still look forward to the day that Samsung finally releases exynos source and eventually official stock jelly bean
[Galaxy S II General] fucitol:
I really hope that the next nexus would have a SD card slot and removable battery.
[Galaxy S II General] bogdan1980:
Well 85c temps playing gta on nexus. My s2 default has 75c temp. back screen glass has 60c.

You can't overclock nexus 4.

Nexus 4 too hot.

Galaxy powered by GM and Dorimanx
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
How much it took to import it to India?

Can you tell me from where did you buy it?:)
[Galaxy S II General] moffa89:
hmm, the nexus 4..

when i can purchase it, then i buy it ;)

but still love my i9100 ;)
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Just got my nexus 4 yesterday too, but will keep my S2 for my family so I won't leave you ;)

CM10.1 is great on both devices.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Removable battery - May be

SD card slot - Not even in your dreams

Interesting observation. I heard glass backs tend to cracked due to change in temperature? Also this not been a one off issue and many having same (area near speaker grill getting cracked auto magically) as I see lot been sold on ebay under used phones in this state

So does that mean OC is a big NO on this one? Speaking of moving to N4, gonna skip this and see the next nexus from Google

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] molesarecoming:
that will never happen and its for the best, at least the sd thing has a positive effect on the eco-system. for decades you have been using crappy operating systems that dump all their garbage here and there and rely on this and that temporary mounting point. c64, amiga, dos, windows, mac, all these dinosaurs. i think its good they're starting to rethink the whole thing.

we all want more space but if its hurting app developers or introducing bad habits into the app store then i can cope with that decision. thing is, use a nexus once and running android on a legacy device will feel as if you were using a fricking emulator - it is so crazy different (and better of course) you'll forget about sd and battery in seconds.

cloud is getting better and better aswell, 50 gigabytes of music are on my google play for instance and a few taps are enough to make broad selections that stay offline for travels and stuff. the way this is going it wont sting so bad in the near future and as much i felt cloud is something evil - seeing it in action makes me wanna keep that notion on hold, just curious where it goes. its weird even for myself, coming from a s2 with 32gb sd, i have never felt limited by being chained to 16gb and using a clever cloud that can manage my offline habits.
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
The thing is everybody, especially people outside USA, don't have unlimited data plans. My 3g has 1.5gb monthly limit. If I start syncing so much data, my mobile bill will make me bankrupt. If they couldn't put an SD then at least they could come up with a 32 GB model. iPhone has a 64 GB model as well so Google has no excuse for not having 32 GB at least

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Not imported buddy. My relative lives in NYC who bought it from play store.
[Galaxy S II General] molesarecoming:
the way this is implemented its trying to get it straight beforehand by using sure bandwidth, wifi at home for instance. its making stuff available before you go out. i live in two countries with long travels involved each time, no connection whatsoever in between. what i do is getting my entertainment ready by making broad selections, just tapping what i like - done. well you know how it works. with music, docs and books out of the way theres simply nothing that will use up 16gb - for most people i guess. filling it with apps alone, havent managed to come even close and i bought tons of games. if space really does matter so much, and you cant cope with a usb stick - yeah then nexus might not be for you. would be a pitty though because android and the overall experience with it is like day and night. you wont come near it by installing roms aswell.
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
I've already bought it. The other features were too compelling. Its a worthy buy that's for sure. But my only point is the memory part was a big let down. Preparing things in advance isn't exactly comfortable. On my s2 I just keep on downloading stuff without ever organising anything. Its just sad that if iPhone could come up with 64 GB Google could at least manage a 32 GB. I find it quite strange.
[Galaxy S II General] Arsgb:
I want to buy it, sold my htc desire s. Get ready to buy nexus 4 in first day of sells. Fail, all phone was sold about 20min and a slow webpage. Buy sgs2 :D
[Galaxy S II General] thorto:
unfortunately this device won't come to italy so i'm not going to buy it :(
[Galaxy S II General] xtachix:
i would move to any smartphone "nexus" if they actually supported external sd cards

the resolution is great with those, the features and just so many. yet for some odd reason they cant put external sd card slot :angel:
[Galaxy S II General] dwurkx:
Yup I think I'll hang up my SII for one of these bad boys after the holidays.
[Galaxy S II General] republicano:
i moved last week the reason was due to screen resolution, dpi,aosp paranoid android, the s2 has brighter screen and it looks better, the s2 camera is currently better than the nexus 4
[Galaxy S II General] TheATHEiST:
What crack you been smoking?

Have you even visited the dev section or tried cyanogenmod?
[Galaxy S II General] 666fff:
Nexus 4 > iPhone > SGS2
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
Lot of things are broken due to lack of source codes. The open source hw isn't perfect right now as well. Clearly you have been living under some rock. Better come out of it.

Also my point is Samsung doesn't support devs. The open source cm 10.1 is the result of hard work of cm team not due to support of Samsung. Reading is not enough, try to understand posts as well.
[Galaxy S II General] Mushcube:
might..

Might, if the price is right in Finland! :S Google branded products seems to be lil higher in Finland compared to similar products.. Still the specs are sick for a price of 400-500€ Time will tell! :silly:
[Galaxy S II General] w1ll1m:
How long is the support for the gs2? I think official support is going to end with JB, but what about unofficial? Will it last the next 2 years? Or should I buy the Galaxy Nexus? Which probably has better unofficial support.

I'm buying one of the phones for a young teenager, and it won't be brand new.
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Well unofficial depends on long Codeworkx and Entropy etc. are going to support it, as they just got/will get their Nexus 4 they will surely leave a device behind, as far as I read on G+ Codeworkx is going to ditch the S3 for now, so its only a matter of time until the S2 gets ditched.

If Samsung still doesn't release workable Sources then JB 4.2.x will be most likely the last version even unofficial if Google changes much for 5.0.
[Galaxy S II General] bapfu:
if my sgs2 does not get repaired, i might go for the n4.
[Galaxy S II General] thunderserpent:
Stuff that, I'm waiting for the Galaxy S IV :P
[Galaxy S II General] TheATHEiST:
No, your point was clear, you specifically asserted that we "cant" leave their TW roms which simply isnt true.

Also I never contradicted you with regards to Samsung supporting devs or not, even though this may also be technically untrue since Samsung gave Cyanogen mod team some free devices to play with. Yes source codes would be nice but in mean time we have very stable non-sammy/tw roms.
[Galaxy S II General] strudla:
Not yet but hopefully soon, want better resolution on my phone.
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
How can you call it dev support? That was just once just once! All the phones they get are either from their own money or from other review websites. Also true dev support is what Sony is doing. These are not my words but words of codeworkx and entropy. So clearly Samsung doesn't qualify as dev support. And when I said we can't leave TW ROMs I didn't mean literally as if someone's put a gun on your head. It means leaving TW you have to prepare to sacrifice some stability and features which Samsung is capable of and the painful part is CM team can implement every missing feature and make ROM stable provided they are dev friendly. They have the TV out undocumented, FM source codes not there, HW source codes not there, they don't respond to requests of devs and ignore them, they can't solve the ril problems as well due to lack of support again. I don't know how you can call them developer friendly. Use this term for Samsung in CM thread and let's see what entropy and codeworkx have to say about it.

That way Google also at one point of time sent a warning to CM team to not include gapps in their ROMs, does that mean Google isn't developer friendly? One incident isn't is enough to call someone developer friendly or unfriendly. Same is for Samsung , just once they gave phones and after that turned a deaf ear to all developers.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
+1

Following N4 General forum and there appears to be problem of back breaking near speaker grill due to change in temperature. Random threads and Posts keep popping up with vodoo magic making it to break.

Feel sorry for those who have moved and for those desperately waiting to get their hands on one.

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
No need for that, you are missing the Voodoo magic :D
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Rather get a phone with removable battery + SD card which is AOSP friendly than a nexus.

Let's see what next android version brings to table in May 2013

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II General] arief347:
in my country nexus 4 is about $560, it is crazy right...tax in this country make me sick...so maybe i'll keep my s2...
[Galaxy S II General] schtiven:
I am not gonna move mainly because the S2 is still a very capable smartphone (hell i got it less than 2 months ago for a cheap price) and it has a good selection of roms to choose from. Getting the latest software officially isnt really that important to me : we have a good selection of roms :)
[Galaxy S II General] rumthin:
I've had my trusty GS2 for just over a year. That's a little long in the tooth for me, so I'm definitely getting the N4.

The GS2 was my first Android phone, and I've really enjoyed using it with CM9, but knowing what I know now about Android and all the different OEMs, I'm definitely going to stick with Nexus devices moving forward.
[Galaxy S II General] anto.danny:
I will move on to a nexus but LG is the one thing stopping me from buyin it..i haven't used a single product from them i wonder what kind of quality they put into their devices,so i guess i'll wait for some reviews before move on to it

P.S:SII is still capable of keeping up with today's high end games but the one thing i hate the most is how the cpu gets hot after playing high end games for about 10 min :mad:..if not for this i would have stayed with SII for another year :crying:
[Galaxy S II General] maxee23:
In Argentina carriers doesn't sell nexus devices :'( And if I want to buy one unlocked its waaaaaay to expensive. Just telling u my misery :P
[Galaxy S II General] raziel123:
That 16gb only and no sd card slot, is a major bummer.

If only it was 32gb at least
[Galaxy S II General] arief347:
oh god,, so maybe still patient to buy nexus 4...
[Galaxy S II General] :
I know LG have a bad reputation but its foolish to assume they will always stay the same, they're making the Nexus and Google will release the software and therefore it will always be supported. Only thing I wanna see at this point is a drop test and reviews on quality of loud speaker and camera, either way my decisions been made, I'm buying it but with a case and screen protector
[Galaxy S II General] bartoloandre98:
Staying with sgs2 till it breaks to pieces/stolen

Not a fan of spending 600 euros every year for nothing.Better invest on a laptop ,expensive as hell driving lessons and a car
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
That's dedication. But i believe the Nexus 4 is cheaper than €600.
[Galaxy S II General] salvatore94:
I think I'll buy it. My gs2 is too old for me, one year old xD

If the Nexus 4 costs only 350€ in my country, Italy, I think to buy it at day one. Before the announcement of the next nexus i was to buy gs3, but I like too much the n4's design.... The only bad think is the 16gb of mamory.
[Galaxy S II General] Codrea:
I definitely want to change it, but nexus 4's price in my country is expensive. Rumour said it it will cost around $550 not $350!! What the hell LG indonesia is fuc**** a**hole. In that case I want to look how jelly bean work on sgs II. if it satisfied me, I think I will stick on my sgs II.
[Galaxy S II General] viande:
I'll wait for a 32GB version, like what they did for the Nexus 7
[Galaxy S II General] Xero Xenith:
Anyone have / have seen a clever way around the space issue?

I've seen concepts and prototypes for a MicroUSB - MicroSD adapter (much smaller than a USB OTG + USB-MicroSD combo) but I don't think they exist yet. I was considering using a USB OTG and nano USB stick, but it's still quite big. You could always just keep some essentials on the internal storage, then supplement with external when you need it.

The price is very good, I'm just still disappointed that Google seem to think the cloud is as good as a MicroSD card. It's not winning any friends with that decision, especially as this has no 4G capability. What are they thinking?!
[Galaxy S II General] arief347:
We are in the same country... so if it's rumour true.. I'll keep my s2...and i think design is extraordinary...
[Galaxy S II General] battleangel:
No way ...

I bought my S2 this spring. Second hand of course. Had my last phone for 9 years almost so no .. I'm not in the business of changing phones every year. Instead I will keep harassing Samsung until they release the proper source for the Exynos line so that the S2 can effectively survive indefinitely.

I am skeptical of the design that the Nexus line has nowadays, with no expandable memory (a cost issue for me) and the introduction of software buttons. And the lack of a replaceable battery. No thanks!
[Galaxy S II General] DummyPLUG:
Got really bad experience with LG, so no LG for me.
[Galaxy S II General] jbeltre:
I like Nexus 4's design...but i have to think carefully about LG :rolleyes: