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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] subarudroid:
Any "item" is only worth what any one person is willing to pay for it. So mine is worth a "bazillion" USD. :) [quote doctor evil]
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
no idea but i think im going to work on selling mine too i really want that Nexus 4 lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Deleted member 3452239:
I'm actually going to try and get the HTC J Buttefly. Don't care if it's the worst name I've heard for a phone. I think it's sick
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] omario8484:
I'm going to try to sell mine..how much do think this could go for...the box and everything it came with three cases one letterbox and two white tpu ones...the charger and some screen protectors... I really want the j butterfly or.the one x +
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
This is only for people who actually open to ideas, not for people who just want to ***** and moan.

I wanna buy the 8GB, for every day use it will be perfect for me, but for the odd case where I go on a long plane journey and don't want to take my tablet, I wondered if there is solution...and then I realised there was, and it's ultra compact.

USB on the Go is the saviour here. Pair this adapter with this tiny USB stick and you suddenly have 32GB extra space.

If your feeling more adventurous, you could go down this DIY route too, very cool and I might be trying this myself
[Nexus 4 General] raze599:
But how is this implemented on the software side? Does stock android support this?
[Nexus 4 General] PHiL_G4:
sure, usb host ist what you need

// http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/usb/host.html
[Nexus 4 General] jazzespresso:
Yeap that's possible, but absent of miniSD card is a big deal breaker for me considering this is just only 8GB - and there's a nice article at http://www.androidpolice.com, why this is so cheap considering this is unlocked phone. It sounds like Google did sacrifice some specs make the cost down and more affordable.

I have Samsung Galaxy S III with 16GB, and plust 32GB sd card, I am already running out space since I save a lot of musics, and games on my sd card and since we all carry the phone with us (not like 10 inch tablet), it makes better sense to have bigger space on your phone.

so really 8GB quite deal breaker.

Don't think that I am *****ing and moanning about it, Nexus 4 specs quite amazing and looks premium quality, and what you said about USB stick would work just fine, but just wanted to share my 5 cent opinion here.
[Nexus 4 General] djluis48:
I think that this could work. Im also looking to buy the 8gb flavor.
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everyone will be happy with 8GB, I just didn't want people coming in here just to moan. It's down to cost, and if you need more space, that's cool.
[Nexus 4 General] DubelBoom:
16GB is enough for me, and if I need more space I'll use dropbox/google drive :)

Of course I would prefer microSD slot, but... I guess for 350$ which includes S4 Pro, 2GB RAM, 2100mAh battery, two cameras and its a nexus, we can't complain about anything!!
[Nexus 4 General] Ouzo:
Yeah, the lack of storage and no sd card for me is also a deal breaker. It's such a shame because I'm really excited about the device. The price here in the UK is so low for what appears to be a high end device, it's amazing. In fact, I've never felt so conflicted about a device. I really want it, but I know it won't hit the mark, purely for lack of storage. With games like NOVA 3 taking up 3GB, plus my sat nav requiring almost 2GB, there won't be much space for other stuff. Data coverage where I live is pretty hit and miss so streaming media from the cloud still isn't a viable alternative for me yet which is a shame. Perhaps it will at least help to drive down the price of other handsets that have high end SoC?

I think the OP's suggestion is a very good one. This approach works well most of the time on a Galaxy Note, as long as it's just a flash drive or micro SD card that the phone can successfully power. I wonder if there would be a way to toggle something like 'directory bind' on and off so that you could put music/media/data files for games on a micro sd card, then just plug it in when you need, change the path of the internal SD card to the external one, then fire up a game. That would be a reasonable compromise from my perspective.

Such a shame, it's so cheap :)
[Nexus 4 General] RedBlueGreen:
I don't understand the people who want to buy the 8gb version. Its only a little bit more for the 16gb version.

.. and don't say its because you can't afford it.. because if this phone was the same price range as the galaxy nexus or any other high end smart phone you would still buy it.

Just pay that little bit extra and get double the space.
[Nexus 4 General] jonnyg1097:
I have a USB-OTG cable and a USB microSD card reader so I would just buy another 16GB/32GB card and carry that around with me. It is easy to take out and plug in and easy to put away when not needed.
[Nexus 4 General] Lizard82:
Hey guy's. My Girlfriend got a Galaxy Nexus and YES USB-OTG is part of the Chipset Configuration the GN comes with! The Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 Chipset supports OTG as well. In the pure Android-Roms the Nexus Devices are running the Firmware supports OTG by default. As I know it's included in the kernel... so no need to create a problem!!!

buy a OTG Adapter - 1,99€ on Amaz...

buy a USB Stick 32Gb. - 12,00€ even on Amaz..

buy a LG NEXUS 4 16GB - 349,00€

= 362,99€ complete!

so if you compare this the other "leading devices" you save up to 200€!!! so you see, no need to spend tears and cry.... Start smiling cause you got a few buck's left to buy some Christmas presents for the family! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] RichySamui:
I use Google Music and sync my photos to my 50GB dropbox account (thank you Samsung!). 16GB is more than I ever need. The only time I get close to using that much is if I'm dual booting 2 different roms.
[Nexus 4 General] luke_c94:
I do this with my Nexus 7 and plan to continue doing it with the Nexus 4! Really useful when I want to stick a film or tv show on there and watch on the go.
[Nexus 4 General] frigidazzi:
Yes this would work. I personally have done it with my Gnexus and nexus 7. However, you have to be very careful with that thing sticking out of your phone. It could be very easy to knock the phone over or drop it or something and I would be concerned about hurting the stuff inside the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
good alternative... currently have the 16GB NS4G and was really excited when i saw the tweet about the N4 and N10 today... disappointed by no Verizon/Sprint compatibility tho... this definitely would've been my next phone if i could use it on these networks...

question about his alternative tho... is 32GB the limit it can read or can you go up to something like 64GB storage as well??
[Nexus 4 General] drumist:
There's no limitation. You could plug in a 3TB external hard drive if you wanted.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
awesome... i usually have a hard drive on me when i'm out anyways...
[Nexus 4 General] bfspider:
do you keep it in your backpack with the solar panels on the side?? :p :p ;)
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
lol no... but i have my hard drive b/c i'm using it to transfer files between people... i mostly just stream Pandora and don't play many games... the space isn't the issue for me really on this device... no cdma is :( ... but it's great to know there's essentially no limit to the sd/usb car we can add to this!
[Nexus 4 General] MizuhoChan:
Why do you need so much space? I'm using an Xperia S right now, with 32GB and I've got over half of it free. 18GB free to be precise, but I haven't been deleting photos and such that I don't need, so they're at 1.3GB.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
who was that question for? my 16GB NS4G has enough space for me to use daily... some people are just lazy and not organized... they don't want to have to constantly delete music/movies and replace them... i use dropbox and don't stream much music over google play... not a biggie for me really...
[Nexus 4 General] Christ1119:
Planning on a 16GB myself, but for those trips where you just wont have any cell signal and can't access the cloud this is a great little solution. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] Snow_fox:
It's a great idea. Although I think I'll let someone else beta-test exercising with it first. :p
[Nexus 4 General] ttpm15:
hopefully they come out with the 32gb for another $50 :silly:

16GB is a little small ( My Music collection is at around 16GB right now ) But i'm willing to delete songs to free up some space.

hopefully the glass back will be somewhat durable, am i the only one who love the samsung flimsy back, if you drop it the back will just pop out, nothing break.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
you don't have to delete them... just upload them to your play music cloud and stream them later if you want to listen to them...

and i agree, i sorta like the samsung back... i also like the glass and wouldn't mind having that on there!
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
Streaming not an option. Uses more battery and transcodes your music.
[Nexus 4 General] katamari201:
But if I don't ***** and moan, how am I suppose to pass the time?
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
what does that mean? i hit play, music plays fine for me and sounds the same... and my suggestion was to that one members response... why delete music that you can store on a free cloud and download later if you need to? sorry to say it, but 16GB of music is a whole lot of music... that's more than any person will listen to on a vacation or trip where they'll be away from internet... i typically will download various DJ sets that run anywhere from 100mb-250mb each and that's about 1-2hrs of music... 1GB of that would be about 10hrs of straight music... that's like 100-150songs... or 10 albums... who the heck is gonna listen to 10 ALBUMS of music before ever going near an internet connection again? and that's only 1GB used... these are mp3 figures here... i understand wav files are larger... but still i think this complaining about space thing is kinda silly...
[Nexus 4 General] :
People are never satisfied even with these awesome specs and killer price, they gotta focus on the things it doesn't have, not to mention the lazy people who can't manage to organize music and stuff songs/movies/games which they never/rarely use cause you can't lie to me you listen to a 1000 songs/play 10 (1.5GB+) games/watch 5 movies/series daily. It's just not realistic. I'm getting one (16GB) and will enjoy pure Android and awesome custom ROMS issue free, everything working and buttery smooth
[Nexus 4 General] RandyED:
16GB is the only option avaible in my country... so the choice is easy made. 16Gb is more then sufficient for the daily tasks, couple of local songs and lots of space for photos. I don't think it will be a problem for myself with no expandeble slot, but if people play the newer games I can see their problem.
[Nexus 4 General] Zubame:
wrong thread

nvm
[Nexus 4 General] brooon:
When it comes down to the "just use google music" stuff, some have to understand that e.g. in europe data plans still aren´t that cheap...I´m using a prepaid plan with 150mb traffic per month (5 €). In the result, I´m restricted on mail & messenger usage (light surfing as well)...

Having my navigation apps installed (Navigon & Copilot), 7 GB are in use...so it´s only 7 GB left (afaik ~2GB are reserved for system purposes). 9 GB of music, 2 GB of ebooks and 4 GB of pics...ignoring all the apps I´ve installed.

The nexus would lead to a hard restriction of my "smartphones habits"...I really have to think twice if this is a good idea.
[Nexus 4 General] Razorblood:
LG has a 50 GB promotion if you sign up with Box.net a drop box like service which works great. Use Google Music and select cache music. Your most played music will be saved temporarily and will change based on your habits. The app is currently taking up 2GB for me. Save pictures to the cloud in case of phone loss or damage. Saves space.

I think 16GB is then way to go though

Sent from my GT-P3113
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
Sort out your favorite music and convert them to Ogg with lower bitrates. Don't install too many games at the sametime.

Sent from my R800x
[Nexus 4 General] Vertron:
You could use this instead. A tiny usb micro sd card reader.

http://dx.com/p/kawau-world-s-small...tf-sd-sdhc-usb-2-0-card-reader-keychain-25558
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
Just because YOU have no use for 32gb, why be so dismissive? I am focusing on what I need and would consider an upgrade from my Galaxy Nexus. I use my phone as an iPod replacement. I want to store video and high specced games followed by recording video.

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Should not have to compromise. Just give us 32gb. 16gb is not enough. Might be for YOU but NOT others with limited data plans and who do not want to stream. Streaming is also slower and uses more battery.
[Nexus 4 General] Vertron:
Interesting;

http://www.indiegogo.com/microsdtomicrousb
[Nexus 4 General] SwimDrewid:
My sentiments exactly. 16gb internal > my epic's 500mb internal

J.ust A. R.eally V.ery I.ntelligent S.ystem
[Nexus 4 General] marty331:
Here is what I am using on my Nexus 7, I have the app rootstick and this dongle:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FUNYSA/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

It worked great!
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
I've always thought there is a market for a micro SD reader which plugs directly into a micro USB slot without the need for an OTG cable. Someone should make it, I'd certainly buy one
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
For Google Music:

Upload all of your music.

Create a playlist (I usually call it "Now").

Put all of the music you care to have on your device right now, really easy to drop things in and out.

Set that playlist to "available offline" on your phone, and to only download while on WiFi.

Profit.
[Nexus 4 General] SIGUEL:
Since when 32GB became the magical #??? Why not 64 or 128 or 256...

People will never be satisfied.

SKYNET
[Nexus 4 General] drumist:
This already exists. I've seen it before, but I can't find it now that I'm trying to find it again.
[Nexus 4 General] Intruder7s:
This?

http://dx.com/p/kawau-world-s-small...tf-sd-sdhc-usb-2-0-card-reader-keychain-25558
[Nexus 4 General] Fr33L4nc3r:
Not exactly.

Ideally, it would be the same with a Micro USB male connector.

On the one you posted, microSD is inserted right inside/below the standard USB connector, it wouldn't be possible with a Micro USB connector
[Nexus 4 General] djkinetic:
This is my solution I use it with my N7, this cable http://www.ebay.com/itm/251127542280?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 + this microsd http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009QZH6JS + this reader http://www.amazon.com/elago-Mobile-microSDHC-Memory-Reader/dp/B002HGFKR8/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt, use a small piece of velcro to secure everything to the case and voila, storage capacity solved!!!
[Nexus 4 General] highvista:
One issue with using USB OTG with the Galaxy Nexus is that you can't easily charge the phone at the same time. For me, I have my music collection on a 64GB flash drive and listen to it at work for hours at a time, so this was a real problem.

We've come up with a solution...there is a kernel mod and a USB OTG y-cable that solve the problem...noted in my sig if you're interested.

What I'll be interested in seeing with the Nexus 4 is if it will allow use of the y-cable for charging and USB OTG at the same time without the need for a modified kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] the1dynasty:
Or you can just use the wireless charging :P
[Nexus 4 General] highvista:
Maybe, but the N4 will have to be smart enough to allow USB OTG and wireless charging. The GN doesn't allow USB OTG and pogo pin-based charging, so it's not a given.
[Nexus 4 General] sindrefyrn:
In most former Android devices with somewhat internal space (8GB+ probably) it's actually an internal SD card. Would it be possible to replace the internal 8/16GB version with, let's say, a 32GB SD card?
[Nexus 4 General] Fr33L4nc3r:
Well, I don't believe it is like removing the cover (which won't be as easy as device with removable battery) and replacing a SD waiting in a SD slot. :laugh:

You better get your soldering iron out, hot and ready, and a memory chip to do that. :D
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
It may be possible (although unlikely) that this uses the same pcb as the Optimus G and therefore can somehow accept an sdcard. Im sure this is wishful thinking though.
[Nexus 4 General] nathris:
Hate to burst your bubble but this isn't a viable solution. Playing music off of a 16GB flash drive using an OTG cable on my Galaxy Nexus drains the battery at a rate of around 1%/minute even with the screen off.
[Nexus 4 General] megapixle:
The fact that we're talking about all these gimmicky options proves the mistake it was to limit this device to 8/16GB. Seriously, in this day and age we shouldn't have to jump through hoops and hurdles to store a couple ROMs and a few games on our phones. The price is great for the 8/16 models, but sheesh let us pay yet another extra $50 for 32GB if we want to.
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
That about sums it up. :D
[Nexus 4 General] waiters:
The otg cable is a good idea. I have a 32gb super small Usb stick on my key chain.. Only time I'd be concerned is on long trips or lots of time away from home and I can store all my music on my Usb stick..

For daily stuff 16gb (on the phone) would be fine for me..

You might have convinced me to get one :)
[Nexus 4 General] jggonzalez:
I like the idea of an S4 Pro phone too, but I also want the removable battery/memory card. I'm just going to stick with my GSIII and see what the other vendors do. I think the lack of a memory card and removable battery will be unpopular enough that Samsung or HTC will fill the gap. My money is on Samsung because HTC already seems to be dropping the removable card/battery from its current high-end phones, but I'll wait and see.

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Hmmm...I saw this hand-crank thingie with a cell phone charging port that might fit in a carry on bag for flights. Of course, I'll also need a tube of Icy Hot for when my arm gets tired, a book to prop on the fold-out tray to read while I work the crank for an hour, a spare MP3 player to listen to in case I don't like the book, a portable DVD player in case I get tired and give up on the crank thingie..:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] tltan86:
I have one adapter exactly look like this, but it didn't work. The wiring is different from OTG cable. Please check out with the supplier first.
[Nexus 4 General] JayB059:
Hi all,

Just wondering if Nexus 4 and the other devices mentioned in the thread that have working USB host capabilities actually use a USB OTG connector? It is hard to tell from pictures if the micro USB connectors in the links provided by the OP and others are micro B or micro A connector types. Per the standard, host capabilities are only "supposed" to be enabled on type A connectors.

You can see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#USB_On-The-Go_Connectors that a micro AB type connector is the "proper" OTG connector so that device can be host or slave depending on if a type A or type B connector is used. The only device I've ever seen that actually implemented this was the Nokia N810 (which I happen to have). I also have a micro USB A to USB A female dongle that when plugged into N810 can accept a USB flash drive and other UBS devices. I know that there were software workarounds in place to use a type B cable to still get host capabilities on the N810...it was just much cleaner to use the proper cable. You can see form the picture on Wikipedia that the micro A connector is more square and it won't fit into a micro B receptacle...needs to be micro AB.

I tried connecting the dongle I have to a Xoom recently because I had heard it had host capabilities and assumed it would take a micro A type connector, but it didn't. Actually, as I'm typing this I think I am remembering something I read a while back that said that USB OTG standard doesn't allow charging through the port (the N810 had separate power jack where as N900 didn't and thus did not have a micro AB connector), so I might have just answered my own question. I will make the post anyway in case anyone else is interested but I imagine no one else probably is.
[Nexus 4 General] kcls:
Somebody just needs to shrink this down, and make it into a case. Tons and tons of people would buy that! You could have different sizes and different colors... It wouldn't even be that hard either! I'm surprised it hasn't been brought up.
[Nexus 4 General] saber.srod:
Would it be possible to use this while wireless charging
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
It should be since wireless charging won't block the microUSB port. All you do is just set the phone on top of the charger.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Anyone seen an OTG that supports USB 3.0?
[Nexus 4 General] haloimplant:
Oh man this just put the most ridiculous image into my head...a guy acting all smart on a plane or train when he pulls a USB stick out of his pocket and sticks into his phone...shortly after a low battery warning pops up...he looks even more impressed with himself as he swaps the USB stick for a little device with a crank and starts cranking away...zoom/pan out to an iphone user sitting beside looking at him like WTF is up with your crazy sh*t man
[Nexus 4 General] stab244:
It wouldn't matter anyways since your phones USB is only USB 2.0. You'll just have to deal with USB 2 speeds which should be enough to watch most movies and open most files.
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
The dream:
[Nexus 4 General] funkyblue04:
The dream is that in build. Or a 32gb option :p
[Nexus 4 General] dsana123:
Wireless storage option

Hi, I've been pondering the issue of limited storage for a while. I have a Galaxy Note with a 64GB card, but am coming round to the idea of a Nexus 4 after purchasing a Nexus 7.

My solution to limited on-device storage has been to purchase the Patriot Gauntlet Node. This is a 2.5 inch HD/SSD wireless encolosure with battery. It operates a wireless hotspot and a an AP client. I received it this week and have been getting to grips with figuring out how it works.

Right now I have managed to get the samba sharing working for:

1) devices connected to the Gauntlet Node when it is configured as a wireless hotspot

2) devices connected to my home router when the Gauntlet Node is configured as an AP client.

3) devices connected to the Galaxy Note when it is set up for wireless hotspot.

Option 3) is the interesting one since this lets all the connected devices access the Gauntlet Node's samba share and also access the 3G connection of the Galaxy Note.

The Gauntlet node has been a bit of a nuisance to set up, but finally I managed it to my satisfaction. See here for the problems I encountered:

http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?10089-File-through-my-computer
[Nexus 4 General] Harry GT-S5830:
Well i'm choosing the 8GB model as i have a OTG adapter and a 32GB USB from my Nexus 7 (broken screen now).

However; it was NOT build into the software. Only Picture transfer was (if i remember right) and you had to use this handy program: [root] StickMount
[Nexus 4 General] Warrimonk:
Has anyone tried this

Has anyone tried ripping apart a super small USB drive like that, and then wiring/soldering it directly to a micro USB plug? You could probably make the entire thing a whole lot smaller.

Check out this wiring guide HERE

I am thinking I might try it with a few spare cables I have lying around, but I do not know how a USB drive that small looks like internally, so I have no clue if it would work.

If we could make a micro-flash drive that small, you could just leave it in the phone 24/7 and use wireless charging. How much does USB OTG affect the battery life of the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] pratopathak:
How about sugarsync? Anyone used it?