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[Nexus 7 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Ok got the Kropsson Aero universal mount in and I have to say it fits the phone but not the N7 with my Seidio case installed. It's about an inch too short with the case on and no problem with the case off. No go for me here. :(

Just getting back, regarding the Kropsson Aero. Because of the Seidio case making the N7 bigger than expected to fit in the Kropsson Aero, I decided to cut down the foam pads on the sides. Now the N7 fits! The said arms are maxed out, but I will try it in the car after work. I took pics, but my work computer is borking at the card reader. But I'll try to upload them at home if I have time ( I have a 4 yr old to contend with lol).
[Nexus 7 Accessories] justinblaine23:
Thanks for sharing your experiences. The pictures help a bunch!
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Additional pics in the car. Taken from my Sensation, sorry :P
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Ovrclck:
Looking good! Does it swivel left to right as well?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kpjimmy:
It swivels but does not turn if that makes sense. It holds, the sticky stuff is the same stuff used on things like the xogear mounts, where you can wash it to reconstitute the 'stickiness' lol.

Honestly the Aero works, but just barely. The grips are maxed out because of the case and that means that there is a possiblity that the N7 can slip out if shaken enough but I have driven home to work and work to home without issues and my ride home is full of hills and turns and construction zones. :)

Would I recommend it? I cannot. While it works for me, it may not work for some. The build quality is sub par compared to my other Arkon universal mounts. But the sticky suction cup is really REALLY strong.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] jumping2:
I decided to make my own mount.. I didn't trust the suction cups on the window. Top of dash is textured too, so wouldn't stick there.

Will post pics shortly :)
[Nexus 7 Accessories] kpjimmy:
I saw your woodie mount, great mod, I just don't like cup mounts IMO really. The tablet would sit too low for me and I do use cup holders with a 4 year old in tow lol.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] jumping2:
Woodie mount.. I like it! aha. I use mine all the time, but as I said - I have 2 just to the left (behind handbrake). And so has 2 in his car/booster seat. So win win! It's only mainly for the Music.. sick of Juggling CD's whilst driving :)

Oh - and I never even realised cup holder mounts where around .. doh! I just checked :eek::eek:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] mikejaner:
Re: Civic

Hey guys,

I ordered the MounTek, and installed it in my 2012 Civic, by putting velcro on an old iPhone case and the back of the Nexus 7

I attatched the pic of what it looks like from the driver's perspective.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] rster53682:
i found this......

just thought i would let you's know.. i found this mount.......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281012940832?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[Asus Transformer TF700] red0ck33g:
I got to handed to ASUS they have performed a Brilliant tactical move on Android fans

ASUS: "We've locked your boot loader, but don't worry we have you covered. We got a tool to unlock it. Just sign away your warranty and its yours".

Legally its air tight. You the end user are completely free to use or ignore it. Your not forced to use it. So if you take the bait, your fault for being caught as a sucker!

Its brilliant in that Asus (and for that matter all Android device manufacturs) knows Android users are all but told you should tinker with your device. We open, we are not that walled garden of Apple. With our Android device your free. They know a good chunk of the Android fans are going to install custom roms, that they really can't help themselves.

Samsung and the other vendors have to use a little judgement and desecration when they get a bricked the device and will likely error in favour of the customer - unless perhaps its really blatant. ASUS tool allows them to link your serial number to the fact you have voided your warranty - no desecration required. Even if its really a hardware issue, your SOL.

Coming Clean: I know this, because I'm that sucker, I took the bait and they reeled me in... hook ... line ... sinker

I'm an android user. Of course I install custom ROMs - duh - I'm an Android user am I not suppose to do that? You don't see no forbidden fruit, with a bite taken out, on my devices.

My own fault sure, no one put a gun to my head to give up my warranty. I unlocked my device with the tool and I voluntarily signed away my warranty Several weeks later I booted to recover and that action bricked my phone (can only get to the boot flash screen, can't connect to PC, can't get to recover, can't load). ASUS confirmed the motherboard is defective and would be replaced under-warranty except that sorry sir you voided your warranty earlier on so even though it's us we won't cover you.

ASUS: "Unfortunately, we are not able to escalate this case. Because once the unit SN punch in, the system automatically pop up no longer under warranty. please kindly understand our policy and procedure here. If you not willing to pay for repair, we will ship back to you unrepaired. unfortunately, there is no concession for this case. Sorry about that."

For an amusing read, see the sanitized email text:

http://pastebin.com/UanRXVvj

I'm tired of vendors locking down the system. I grew up with PCs that weren't locked down, and I don't accept switching the model now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Class action lawsuit in the making...
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
HTC and Motorola do also. There's an easy solution. Vote with your wallet and avoid products from manufacturers whose principles you don't agree with. Complaining after the fact does little good and they already have your money. It was quite the scandal when it was discovered that Asus locked the bootloader on the Prime. After much flaming Asus came out with the policy that's currently in place. Some seem not to care and others feel the way you do. As they say, "it is what it is."
[Asus Transformer TF700] wctaylor79:
And that is why I got a 3rd party warranty. So I can do whatever I want. Sure with the cost of the tablet I would want to be covered, but if I mess it up or it goes bad I got protection and it cost me under $100 to be fully covered for tech issues or mishaps and breaks.. Square trade.. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Thing that bugs me is why asus cancels the whole warranty.

Visible defects happening after use ie; buttons falling out, screen popping up, broken ports etc. also are not covered.

Does unlocking cause a physical defect...no.

I could see reducing what is covered or applying a flat repair charge, yet just dumping the whole warranty seems a little crooked to me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] red0ck33g:
Perhaps... What options?

Too focused on the form factor (clamshell and rave specs) that I didn't pick up on some other more important details. Suppose I could have returned once I realized the policy but I was already attached to it. So I rolled the dice and lost. My bad for rolling the dice, I'm a weak pathetic human. I'm not yet a Richard Stallman - one who only runs on completely open hardware and ancient. I do however now appreciate his wisdom more - of course one could argue he hasn't been successful in getting vendors to change.

However, complaining does raise awareness and acts as a cathartic for the afflicted. As far as I can see most vendors lock their boot loaders so you usually have to jump through some hoops to get around it. To my knowledge none except Asus such a tool - effectively automated the "void" warranty process - its genius really. They don't even need to see the text on your screen to tell your warranty is gone - the second you use their tool - its gone. No management discretionary options left. I can honestly say I have never been so horribly treated. Usually folks are some degree of reasonable. Maybe I've just been lucky till now.

Out of curiosity which manufactures don't lock their devices? Eventually I'll be looking for an LTE phone to replace my ageing Samsung Galaxy S1. I'm not sure if I'll pick up another tablet - the whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. Won't be touching ASUS components ever again.
[Asus Transformer TF700] red0ck33g:
3rd party as in via BestBuy or Futureshop or some such? Wouldn't they raise an eye at seeing the "your device is unlocked" text on the screen? Or are they really that generous? Something to think about next time. thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] cbmech:
I got the TF200 and fell for the trap too. I was so frustrated with the performance of my prime, that I finally took the leap and unlocked it to load custom roms. Then a few weeks later, the display or the connection to the display took a crap and I had to send in the device fully expecting that I had to pay for the repairs. For some reason Asus took pity on me and actually fixed the device, no charge. I was pleasantly surprised. Too bad, they are not doing that anymore. Up until that point I was ready to give up on ASUS, but for that very act alone, I decided to stay with them and purchased the TF700. I did learn my lesson and I will not unlock my device until my warranty runs out.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lafester:
so YOU bricked your device and you think asus should pay to fix it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Aviator47:
You got the idea. It's called a "contract" and two parties agree to certain terms and conditions therein. Want warranty coverage? Abide by the terms and conditions of the warranty. Want something outside the terms and conditions of the warranty, and loss of warranty is the price. Not so difficult to understand. ASUS made it clear - unlock as you wish, but do so at your own peril, regardless of what other part of the product might fail. Since this was published before the fact, the unlocker has clearly agreed to such terms.

Kinda interesting how many threads here provide details of gaming the return policies of various retailers, yet when ASUS makes a very clear statement that a given action will void the warranty, some folks think that they are stepping over the line.

Amazing to see how some folks react when they learn, first hand, that there is no such thing as a free lunch.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
The main problem here is that the unlock tool does not unlock your device, it only allows flashing unsigned kernels and keeps the bootloader locked. If they told you your individual SBK (Secure Boot Key), you could probably recover from this situation easily with nvflash.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
While I do feel for you, this is not even a case of "some piece of hardware failed and I was denied warranty coverage since I was unlocked" - from what you've explained above, this whole problem was brought on by an action that *you* initiated. If your device was never unlocked, you would have never been in this situation.

This is the exact reason why Asus doesn't provide warranty coverage for unlocked devices. Why should they have to pay for your mistake? I'm guessing that you used one of those "reboot to recovery" apps, which have been known to cause this issue. Again, Asus shouldn't have to pay for your mistake.

If this were an obvious case of "my power button quit working" or something like that and they denied warranty coverage because you were unlocked, then you would have every right to be angry. But that is not the case (unless I am misunderstanding the quoted statement above) - this is not a hardware failure of any kind - it's a "lack-of-researching-before-acting" failure, which should *not* be covered by an Asus warranty.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bradslinux:
The OP is wrong. He entered into an agreement, unlocked the device, apparantly bricked it....his fault now he wants to blame Asus for enabling him to unlock it.....

My problem with the whole unlock scheme is that they allow users to unlock the device, only to later release an update that encrypted the bootloader denying users access AFTER they have voided their warranty and unlocked their device. Bad form Asus, Very bad form. I voided my warranty to only later be locked out of part of it, a part that I would very much like to have access to.

Just my $.02 worth.

Brad
[Asus Transformer TF700] red0ck33g:
Could I get you some vinegar so you can add that to the salt you're pouring on my wounds - ASUS Good, User stupid. :eek:

I'm just trying to lick my wounds (I guess self-inflicted), vent and move on.

Lesson learned. PC's you can install your own OS on and if you screw it up you can recover it yourself (though perhaps that too might change in the not to distant future - Progress I guess). Tablets/Smart phones - some of them - much easier to end up in a place where your SOL. I've bricked my Galaxy phone several times over the years and been able to recover via a few different approaches - its just software its not that hard to reset- been doing it since I was a lad.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KL643:
For me it doesn't make sense if you unlock your device, it would cost you "all" of your warranty. Of course, if you brick it, it's your own fault, you can't blame Asus for it. But...if there's something wrong with the hardware (obvious a manufacturer fault) it is ridiculous that Asus would not repair it for free because you unlocked the device.

So why don't they provide us the key, so we have the option to recover if you brick your own device?
[Asus Transformer TF700] sleepwalkers:
Man, some of you are awfully hyperbolic. It's made extremely clear before you choose to unlock your device that Asus' warranty will no longer apply, just like EVERY OTHER device. Apple, Motorola, HTC, LG, etc. If you unlock your device (through the manufacturer or not), you lose your warranty. Plain and simple. There's no "class-action lawsuit" here, and it's not Asus being consumer-unfriendly, or attempting to bone their customers.

So you overclock the CPU and then, one day, the tablet won't boot. Should Asus pay for shipping and labor to validate that it is, in fact, a hardware issue completely unrelated to whatever software you run outside of their purview?
[Asus Transformer TF700] dayofthedaleks:
This. Being able to half-unluck the post-.30 bootloaders is terribly frustrating. If we're being thrown to the wolves warranty-wise, we should have full control over our devices!
[Asus Transformer TF700] wctaylor79:
Squaretrade works no matter what. They cover the device locked or unlocked. Without a coupon you can get 2 year coverage for a $500 device with accidental damage and water damage coverage for around $100. The beauty is most times you can get a 30% off coupon floating in the forums. It covers anything. Google them. Check out reviews. For most part I see nothing but happy customers. I had it on my Prime. got the 700. Went to website and they couldn't transfer so they refunded the full amount. Gave me another coupon and I bought it for my 700 for cheaper than my original cost. IMO best deal around.

EDIT: If for whatever reason they can not fix your issue, like a brick or a shattered device they cut you a check for the device. Minus time of course. You can't wait two years throw it against a wall and get $500, but they compensate the fair market value of the device at time of service. :) Only reason I unlocked now was because I have this option. I have 3 kids. accidents happen. I baby my device and keep on me all day, but again, accidents can happen. Better safe then sorry. When it comes to getting the warranty you have 90 days from purchase froma retailer and 30 days if you bought on ebay.. Hope this helps you or someone that may not have known about this option. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] KL643:
No :angel:
[Asus Transformer TF700] deepflash:
I just wonder, why it isn't possible to "log" what the unlocking tool of Asus is doing to redo that with another tool and undo it, when needed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
How would you undo the database entry that the Asus server makes into its database when you unlock?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mathman85:
I love when people complain about voiding their warranty. "I bought a new car, put turbos and nitrous on it, blew the engine, and now they won't replace it!!!" "I bought an electronic device and installed software on it that was not stable, so now it's bricked, and they won't replace it!!!" "I'm irresponsible, and dropped my brand new phone in the toilet, and now the phone company won't replace it!!!"

The bottom line is simple: warranties protect the end user from problems CAUSED BY LAX QUALITY CONTROL OR MANUFACTURING PROCESSES. This is why warranty terms always talk about normal use--if you're using it normally, as intended, then it's covered. They don't protect the user from themselves. If the warrantied item breaks because of something that went naturally wrong, the warranty is the responsible company's way of saying "yeah, we messed something up. Sorry! Let us make this better." For the user to break the thing and then expect warranty replacements is this new level of entitlement that I'll never understand.

I support OEMs allowing end-users to unlock their devices to do as they wish, and I respect that they must defend themselves from attempted fraud by the end-user. I'm all about freedom, and I want the freedom to do as I wish with the things that I buy. And with that freedom comes the responsibility to make informed decisions about what I do with them. When I used HTC's unlock tool to unlock my phone, I understood that warranty replacements aren't happening anymore, and I accepted that fact in exchange for the freedom to modify the hell out of my EVO. And I appreciate that HTC and ASUS let me make that choice, because many OEMs do not (talk to some Motorola fans about what they often have to go through to unlock their stuff). Perhaps you'd rather live in Apple-land, where sacrificing freedom for safety is a way of life.
[Asus Transformer TF700] red0ck33g:
- Simplified: Rebooted to go into Recovery Screen, Device went into

un-recoverable Boot Loop instead

- Specifics: I rebooted a few times just prior to using a market based app

to reboot to recovery (first time attempting to go to recovery screen).

I was going into the recovery screen to start doing things with the

unlocked boot loader, but I never got far enough to do said things.

Don't think that = the user bricking the device.

- ASUS == Corporation && print ASUS.doIbenefitMore() ; // output = True;

- Tablet == Computer

- ROM install ~= OS install

- Since when is installing software the assumed equivalent of overclocking

the hardware, or dropping the device or engine nitro - a lot of the

analogies in above posts are inaccurate.

- Reboot to Recover ~= Reboot to Bios Options Screen (maybe)

- ASUS indicated MB defective when I RMA'd, would be covered under warranty

but their tool removed said warranty (as advertised). Would seem to

support the idea of a hardware defect. Yes I'm SOL, but a reasonable

company would have at least escalated my letter (when I asked - twice)

and given some reasonable thought about customer good will. This is not

even close to dropping my device so now I want a refund comment.

- Guys on rocking horses should get off before they fall off

- Really love the Benjamin quote, but perhaps that poster should consider

Tablets are more restrictive than PCs and getting worse. See above

regarding upgrading OS and Tablet == Computer. Think these companies

are being nice giving you an unlocking tool? They are wholesale doing

what they can to lock you away form the device instead of making them

easy to recover. In all my years of tinkering around with various PCs

I've never gotten to a place I couldn't recover from.

- Apple Comment: funny I was actually starting to think many of the above

posters might have been apple users - seeing how quickly they defended

the Company line. ... Don't Apple Fans do that?

- I did agree to sign away my warranty, I agree no legal recourse.

But I'm damn sure gonna point out the brilliance and deviance of ASUS

in their approach. And yes I'm *****ing about things. So sorry for

being human - you might try it sometime - you know show some

compassion instead of defaulting to cutting folks up.

- Despite all the wonderful examples of human beings above (sarcasm),

I've calmed down about the whole ASUS thing. When I get it back I'm

going to try and see if I can repair it myself (not likely, but I'm

curious about tinkering with it) and then I'm going to put it back in

its nice green case and hang it on my wall over my linux PC. Every

time I look at it, I'll remember I already have real freedom on my PC,

with my OS. There's no real danger of bricking my PC through normal

software actions like upgrading OSes or changing them. You simply get

your install medium out and start fresh.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jtrosky:
Actually, it does = the user bricking the device. It is a well known issue that some of the apps that "Reboot to recovery" cause this type of bootloop. You are not the first one to have this problem. It is also known that there is nothing you can do to recover at this point (other than sending it to Asus), unless you saved your NVFlash files before attempting it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] malos1984:
While i don't mind the void if unlocked policy, it's a real grey area.

correct me if I'm wrong but if i buy it today and put customer software on it then all of a sudden 2 weeks later the tab won't turn on becasue the power button is poorly manufactured and needs to be fixed they won't do this, purely becasue my software must have broken the internal physical workmanship of the tablet.

Sure if the tablet is bricked suck **** but if the screen or any physical component goes it should be replaced unless the case where some one may have over clocked.

simply put they should still be covering physical defects or faults.

What you say about software really is silly anyway.

If i buy a dell and install linux on it a "custom" operating system and the hdd blows it's still covered.

So why can the tablet not be changed to support an extra small 500mb hidden away back up flash so if you brick it you hold the button combo and it will restore repartition etc the tablet back to use, kinda like a secondary bios back up on a mother board.

Just saying, I recently customed my galaxy s2 it's voided the warranty but hey if I brick it my fault I'll get over it. still if the screen physically dies then really i expect samsung to repair that as the software would not have broken the screen.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
The recovery partition is more or less exactly that, but in this case the Asus bootloader (which is not under control of the user because the unlock tool does not really unlock everything) is broken and does neither boot the recovery nor enable the fastboot protocol so that the user could repair it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Aviator47:
I don't think any manufacturer is saying a software hack is the cause of any physical failure. They simply take the stand that any unauthorized modification voids the warranty. Definitely makes administration of the contract straight forward. No confrontations over whether or not a given failure is the result of owner actions. One product, one contract.

We can argue forever over what they "should do". The reality is what they actually do, and one can take it or leave it. Since, I would be willing to bet, the vast majority of their customers do not have an interest in unlocking or the like, it makes sense to me. I doubt this provision seriously reduces sales of their product. It's a mass market product.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Sh0X31:
Delete please