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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Just to be on the extra, special, cosey safe side what did you do to get it working in the UK ? I am a bit of a dunce when it comes to electrical stuff (I am the kind of person that would get electrocuted with a 5volt square battery). Is it just a case of using a shaving plug to convert the two prongs into 3 prongs ? or do I have to do some weird Doc Emmett Brown, Quantum flux thing to convert the power from horrible European Union flavour to glorious British Empire flavour ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
plug it into a shaver adaptor. The charger on mine was 110-240v.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
I'm fairly sure a cheap travel adaptor would sort out your plug trouble. It's mainly American devices you can't plug in in the UK as their 110v stuff doesn't like our 240 volt supply. Is no different to taking a British appliance on holiday to Europe with a cheap plug adapter to make the pins go in the holes
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Cheers Higgsy and everett_psycho thought it might just be a shaving adapter thing, but always worth getting a bit of confirmation :D. I think I can just about handle that. I have been using a shaver with two prongs for several years and managed to avoid imminent electrocution with it so I think I can handle the tech challenge that this charger represents :silly:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer(x):
Nobody selling the orb on ebay too, tought there was some on the market
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhillyBlunt474:
Just got my LG wireless charger tonight as well. It works great. I'm with you on the beep, annoying, too long, and unnecessary. I already opened up the charger and ripped the speaker off the circuit board, so I am a happy camper now.:good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
I wouldn't hold my breath for that to appear any time soon. I am not even convinced it has gone past "fake mock up" stage as of yet. The only thing we have seen from Google is it being featured in the verge video, yet it was not plugged in and was not shown "in use". I really get the feeling all they have so far is a ball of plastic with some magnets in it.

Now ordinarily this wouldn't be a problem, hell the Orb charger looks nice and I will certainly get one if I am still alive to actually see it come to market but I never envisioned it being so hard to get a third party wireless charger. The wireless consortium has been in existence since 2008 yet 4 years later it is next to impossible to get a wireless charger (certainly in the UK at least).

At the moment I have a slim hope of getting a Maxwell charger but I notice the guy selling them keeps pushing the delivery date back. I have no doubt things will improve in 2013 and you won't have to sacrifice your first born child to the sun god Ra in order to use what I personally consider to be a pretty cool and convenient feature.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] china_pearl:
N4 Wireless Charging Orb for sale on eBay???

Has anyone seen this? I wonder how legit this, but apparently at least 3 people bought it. I looked for feedback from these 3 people but didn't find any on eBay...

Very curious, indeed.... May be I should ask the sell how (s)he came by these Orbs, when it's not even available yet (as far as I know)....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DBestman:
I'd ask to see a picture of the actual item, not a stock photo...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wolfboy1984:
This verge image 'orb seller' has already been posted in this thread. If you can't tell it's fiction by looking at it take a look at your own reasoning skills.

There's more chance of the real Santa chucking one down your chimney Christmas Eve. Albeit covered it reindeer ****. Probably.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadowguy:
After recieving the new LG pad charger...my device charges exceptionally fast on this thing....is this normal!?!?!?!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericshmerick:
I have the energizer and LG and they both charge faster than the wall plug.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hippieschuh:
Isnt QI supposed to only deliver 0.5A??

how can it charge faster?

Also that would explain why the phone is getting hotter with the LG charger then for example with the philips charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cookiencream:
It's still available

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Nexus-4-...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item27cd4ee980

I think it's Palm Touchstone not google wireless charge orb. It looks similar anyway
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
It's not available, they don't have them to sell. You can tell from the "Posted in December" line.

Also, that's a picture from The Verge's inside Google HQ bit. You can tell that as it's on a large bit of paper.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
I've done some very loose testing. Using battery monitor widget. When on the Maxell Qi charger its reading +400-450mA, when plugged into the supplied charger (rated 1200mA) or my Playbook charger (rated 2000mA) it is dispalying +750-850mA, when plugged into the PC it is displaying +100-250mA (these figures are really sporadic on usb - up and down like a yo yo.)

as I said not very scientific obviously the actuall charging values will be more, however it does show roughly that the Qi charger potentially charges a about double the speed of PC USB, and half the speed of the wall charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Woohoo my Maxwell charger has been dispatched, hell I am almost as excited to get this charger as I was to get the phone :laugh: . I am gonna charge the hell out of my Nexus 4 when I get it, ohhhhhh yes I am so gonna charge it, then I am gonna run the battery down and charge it again. I am so gonna charge the brains out of my Nexus 4.

Edit : why is it for the past couple of pages it is always me that starts on a new page :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
My battery hasn't been below 50% since I've had the charger whenever I'm at home its on it

Sent by Galaxy Note
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runningwarrior08:
Because you are the chosen one.

Same here, except for when I'm taking the thing apart trying to find a way to increase the magnetic pull enough to hold it up like the touchstone.

May try and making a stand like on the video posted a page or 2 back.. Just have to wait for finals week to end
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
Woohoo just got the email from play trade mine is on the way. Now do I use it at home or at work. Either way I'm charging the crap out of this thing in 3-4 days. At least at work the others can't steal my charger all the time as it won't work :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chronus719:
I honestly don't get very fast charging speeds on my LG WCP-700... colloquially, about .5% per minute. It charges much faster through even PC USB, let alone the wall charger. I have RMA'd my Nexus 4 for other issues (earpiece crackling and dead pixel(s)), so I'm wondering if this might be an issue with the inductive charging. Guess I'll see in a few days when the new unit comes in.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lifeisfun:
Anyone tried one of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/QI-Standard...axy-S3-Galaxy-Note2-Nokia-Lumia-/190764681329

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t0ph0id:
Got mine coming from his ebay store too!. You do realise it's Maxell and not Maxwell? I don't know why it annoys me but you keep putting Maxwell. Not having a go, just pointing it out as for some reason it's getting to me. Lol. :p

Higgsy, you got a bargain getting it for £28 and with the charging sleeve. I spoke with Paul at SmartGearUKLtd who is selling these on ebay and Play.com and they do not come with the charging sleeve.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
Predictive text changes Maxell to Maxwell lol, I expect that's why. Yes I did get a bargain. I have the iphone charging sleeve on eBay for a fiver with a few watchers, so hopefully I'll get a bit of cash back on that too.

Those who have bought from smart gear. Please post what version number of pad you get. Mine is 1.0 but I wonder if these are a higher version number. It says in the instructions. Ta.

Sent by Galaxy Note
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dfloro:
One man's pimp is another's FUGLY, I guess. :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compuguy1088:
I'm having no problems with my Nokia qi charger. It just power cycles a few times before it starts charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
Hey now, we are all N4 brethren here lol....

I have the Energizer pad, looks exactly like the Maxell one actually. Has a bit of a incline but because I have the iBlason Tpu case on, it stays set. Without it, the phone feels like it hydroplanes off lol.

I have the LG coming in as well. I intend to mod the speaker when I get it. I am a light sleeper and even notifications wake me up at night if I don't turn the profile to silent at night :(. Or I just might switch the energizer one at work, depends which is bigger. :)

The Energizer is at work currently and the part with the incline is hanging over the desk so it's pretty flat on the desk. LOL. And no beeping. g
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samiam303:
... And what strange definition of "problem" are you using where power cycling isn't one? That isn't how it's supposed to work.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ViViDboarder:
Real bummer this one doesn't work. I wanted to mount it into my car dock for easy charging as it's not massive like every other one I've seen. Thanks for testing.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compuguy1088:
It doesn't constantly power cycle, so I consider it a minor issue. It charges fine after it cycles.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
I wonder why we haven't heard anything about the orb yet...i want one so bad!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
I wouldn't consider it a "minor" issue myself personally and I would question how healthy the constant cycling between charging and not charging is for your phone. It may not do it any harm but I wouldn't feel comfortable taking that chance when there are alternatives out there that work 100% perfectly with the Nexus 4 phone.

Well considering we are waiting for Google to restock the bumper which is just a bit of molded plastic it doesn't surprise me one bit that we haven't heard anything more about the orb. I sent a tweet to LGUK about 2 weeks ago and their reply was :-

https://twitter.com/LGUK/status/271347531059965952

Yep the dreaded "soon" word which roughly translated means sometime between now and when the sun burns all it's hydrogen and consumes the earth in a fiery ball of fire.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Pretty much all of these have the very thin coil, and the rest is a small board and a big slab of flat plastic. If you're willing to do some little modifications you can probably get away with a great dock. Another poster started a thread just about this, but it's gone stagnant since there are not many options, especially with the prices right now.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sbasinger:
The LG mat works really well, but the phone does get a bit warm. I can't wait for some information about the official orb...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BBM-Lee:
Do these current induction implementations work with larger cases (e.g. cases with backs to them) ?

Running out of patients with the Bumpers (and likely will have a 6-7 week ship time when they finally come back).. might just break down and get a crappy TPU care or some such.. but would like to be able to inductively charge
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] resynx:
Yes it will still work.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
Did you see the thread with the Owl car charger? A korean product where the OP is getting one. I questioned the compatibility but he actually spoke to someone at Arkon in the marketing dept. The marketing person said they have a few test products in stock (from Owl) and seems to work but Arkon will most likely release a wireless charger next year some time.

I'll try to dig up the thread.

EDIT found it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35027567#post35027567
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Oh, man Arkon is great. Have bought two of their mounts. The one with the suction cup that works on the dashboard is genius. Hopefully they deliver a Qi one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neotekz:
i wouldnt worry about this, most common metals are not hard enough to scratch gorilla glass. I would be more worried about sand in my pockets.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miicho85:
Posted this in a different i hope it helps if you r looking to buy a wireless charger

Nexus slides right off if you r not using a case so i went to my local walmart and bought some sticky bumpers it doesnt look pretty but had to be done
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wolfboy1984:
Put your face against the screen it looks like a evil robot...

Or is that just me?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajpettit:
No it's just you...

but add two evil eyes on the Qi logo NFC tags perhaps and you've got yourself a monster.

How steep is the angle on the maxell pads mine should arrive later today
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
Its not really that steep. It's just that because of the glass back and the charger's glossy smooth surface, any small incline will make the phone slip off like it was hydroplaning off lol. I put a tpu case and that solved my problem. Another person here used an old screen protector to use it as a grip of sorts.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
It looks flat to me

Sent by Galaxy Note
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] porkchopbolt:
This charging orb (the Google one), is it supposed to have magnetic coupling so it doesn't slide off?

Sorry if this has been answered before.

I ordered the palm touchstone, simply as a holder by the side of my bed. I'm hoping that it will stay magnetically. I'm not to fussed that it doesn't charge the phone. I can wait for the official product, but it's nice to have a holder in the meantime!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phermey:
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the glass sits on sticky rubber so it stays put.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cramu:
Until it vibrates . .
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phermey:
Until it vibrates . .[/QUOTE]

its got a pussified vibrator in it. its really dull/slow in comparison to my i777. and its located at the bottom. i cant see it being an issue.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Yes the Orb and the Nexus 4 has magnets in them to hold the phone to it so it does not slide off :-

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569230/google-wireless-charging-orb-touchstone-qi
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phermey:
i thought in that video with google they said something about the rubber. guess not. that being said... i wonder if the magnets are the key to get the other chargers to stop being intermittent on the get go.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Nah that is just Nokia crapping over the Qi standard to suit themselves :p . As far as I am aware the only Qi chargers that do not work 100% properly with the Nexus 4 is anything with the name Nokia on it, their charging plate doesn't work and their JBL speaker/charging system doesn't work. Yet the Nexus 4 works with every other Oi charger there is, Energizer, Maxell (got the name right this time) and LG Qi chargers all work fine with the Nexus 4 and they have no magnets in them as far as I know.

It has been speculated that the Nokia chargers do not emit enough power to charge a device as powerful as the Nexus 4 so all the magnets are there for is to hold the phone to the Orb. I wish there was more news on this orb I am definitely buying one when it comes out. But right now I am still drumming my fingers waiting for the Royal Mail to get off their arse and deliver my Maxell charging pad.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
can the phone be used whilst it is charging on the Orb?

Both in the functional and the practical sense of "used" ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Well, as long as you don't move it from the Orb, whether you class that as practical or not is up to you.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
That is as I thought - so really this orb is a bit of a niche product as i imagine many people will want to use their phone *whilst* its charging?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Not really, I would say for most of the waking day people do not have their phone connected to a charger at all. I know I don't connect my phone to a charger when it is in the house. All my phone does is sit on a table next to me, if I want to use it I pick it up and do whatever I want with it and put it back down again. The whole point of a mobile phone is for it to be mobile, even if you use the phone in the house it is still useful for that phone to be "mobile" in case you want to go to the kitchen for a glass of water whilst on the phone etc etc

The only time my phone is ever connected to a charger is at night when I am in bed. When I get my wireless chargers my pattern will stay the same except instead of just sitting on the table leaking away power my phone will be sitting on a charging mat staying charged. If I need to use the phone, I will just pick it up, use it and then put it back down on the charging mat. ]

My own personal view is that the convenience of just being able to put the phone down somewhere for it to start charging will negate the "oh I have to use the phone with my charger connected because it is low on power". This wireless charging really does stand a chance of catching on now and it is about time too. The fact trying to get these chargers is harder than getting a Nexus 4 shows that there is a demand for them and it isn't just a "niche" thing.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
I'm not sure how to guage the demand for the Orb, but given that they don't actually exist on the market yet I agree it is certainly hard to get one! :angel:

The 'inconvenience' of plugging in a microusb cable has never been a problem for me , but clearly some users like yourself will find a use for the Orb when it is released. :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
I was actually referring to the other Oi chargers that are currently on the market. The Nexus 4 is compatible with Qi chargers from Maxell, Energizer, Philips and of course LG (just Noika chargers are problematic). You have 4 companies selling chargers there and as soon as they become available to the general public they get sold out. I spent two weeks trying to find someone with a wireless charger in stock in the UK. The demand is so great and the supply so low that prices of 3rd party Qi chargers are going up. So I think it is a bit unfair to label wireless charging as "niche".

I am sure people felt exactly the same way about the first telly that had a remote control. If the net had been around at the time the remote control was invented I am sure we would have seen "bah these new fangled remote controls, I never had a problem walking to the TV to change channels or turn the volume up". You aren't really seeing the big picture here, this has the potential to alleviate the weak daily battery life of mobiles. If a standard charging mechanism can become popular then you could see these chargers everywhere, embedded in everyday objects. There is no reason why these charges cannot be embedded in the armrests of seats on public transport. What about stopping for a coffee ? guess what that table you are sat at has a Qi charger built in so you can give your phone a 15 minute top up to help you through the day.

Now sure we are all different and some don't mind charging via a usb cable and there is no problem with that, but all I would say is don't close your mind to wireless charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
I totally agree that your vision of public, widespread, multiply-compatibility wireless rechargers would be great in the future.

For my uses though, the current orb charger has less, rather than more, functionality compared to my non-wireless version. :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
Couldn't you just put 2 bumpers on the bottom to make the charger level? Would look a little nicer.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajpettit:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3570902/starbucks-google-att-powermat-wireless-charging

Already happening this will become commonplace but only if the white elephant joins the party without apple it's not going to happen and unfortunately the fools aren't inclined to play
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rosemachinegun:
I hope these Starbucks installations are Qi compatible. :/ I've read that Powermat recently conceded and now conforms with the Qi standard, but I won't believe it till I walk into a Starbucks and charge my Nexus 4 on the table.

You're probably write about the white elephant though. There likely aren't enough Android/Windows phone users with qi-compatible phones to appreciate the initiative enough for Starbucks to consider it a success.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Works a treat.

Reminds me of my Nexus 7 lol

Cheers for the recommendation guys :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
dude can you tell me what version number yours is. It says in the instruction leaflet thingy somewhere.

Just interested if these area higher revision
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Says version 1.0 on the manual

So, early version in guessing lol

Works perfectly so far, so version number means diddly squat to me :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Yep mine came today too :laugh: and it says version 1.0 on the leaflet as well. It also came with a Great British Empire 3 Pronged plug, long live the Queen and all that Jazz :p . Unfortunately I haven't been able to test it yet as my phone is fully charged (god damn it). So right now I have the brightness on full whack, turned screen time off to 30 mins and running benchmark programs over and over again to use the charge up lol.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Mine has charged from 4%-44% in 1 hour
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tibbz96:
Did you guys get yours off eBay? I ordered the same one and I think it's coming on Monday.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
Yeah mine is version 1.0. No issue, it works fine, however I just wondered if there was a newer revision out there.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
I ordered from Play.com not a big fan of Ebay. Just an update but I finally managed to drain my phone enough to use the charger and all works A OK. This thing is totally gorgeous with the Beautiful Widgets dream scene enabled and it sitting on the wireless charger. Now I really really want LG to get the Orb released quick smartish.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Yep, off eBay.

Its the exact same seller that sells on play.com - so, no difference.

2hrs 45mins for a full charge from 4%-100%

The wireless charger turned itself off automatically (light went off)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Major_Sarcasm:
Do these Maxell chargers have a grippy surface so they can be used at an angle or do they have to be laid flat?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nexus-Six-:
Got my LG charging pad today from the States. Works fine in a UK socket with a travel adapter. The battery does warm up to about 40c while charging but I'm sure that's within acceptable parameters.

I also measured the power consumption when it is plugged in while not charging and it was too low for my meter to measure (it read 0.00 Watts). So top marks to LG for stand by efficiency! You can leave it plugged in all the time and know it'll cost virtually nothing.

I'll compare the charging efficiency to the USB adapter when my battery runs down again.