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[Galaxy S III Android Development] tmac31:
lags come with cpu frequency limit to 800 mhz if you dont see lag even on games. i dont think your s3 heating as much as mine i didnt check cpu temp but battery reaches 50c and thats when thermal throttling starts for me.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] lsalamun:
Hmm, i talk about cpu temp that show on main boeffla screen, i can reach up to 57C, for battery I don't know.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
If those 57C are from the Cpu at gaming, it's perfectly normal, if they are from battery, then it's very high.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
I was getting thermal throttling on 42c which was insane,so I used DFVS disabler to disable this limit.

Btw,I second the post above.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] robindebruin:
hey i have stock rom 4.3 which is the latest kernel cause i also see jelly bean 4.4
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SteStanich:
Hi mate! is there a way to add this profile to presets one?

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edit: i did it, I've asked without thinking first.. sorry for it! [emoji106]
[Galaxy S III Android Development] nkirk:
I live in asia = hot. Even 70+ c temp at times is quite normal with the new graphic drivers and with default Mali frequencies of 533mhz. Also you would notice higher temps on latest boefflea kernel due to new gfx driver which increases performance with a bit of heat. Also the throttle temp for the CPU was pushed little further for us to enjoy faster speeds for longer periods.

Performance increase is proportional to the heat ;)

This is one instance where the calculated UV helps
[Galaxy S III Android Development] lsalamun:
Oh, so the drivers have a big step in the game.

I undervolted extremely (-100mV) to see how it operates, it is on 50 max when gaming, asv is 5 it hangs preety tight, not a single crash or reboot.

Also, the freshly installed rom needed to settle up a bit:)

And isn't stock gpu clock max 440Mhz? I know Andi increased it to safe 533Mhz am I right?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
All custom ROMs have it increased up to 533mhz. Stock kernel uses 4 steps for GPU while custom kernels use 5 steps. But I never noticed a difference in performance.

Also,undervolting is a bad idea. Better to run hot phone than a warm one with UV. As the one above you mentioned,performance increase is proportional to heat,that means performance won't drop when your phone gets hot,and even more,it may get smoother. That's the case I noticed with AOSP ROMs. All of them run hot even with normal usage but are smooth as butter.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] lsalamun:
I always feel like, when my phone is hot that it sucks the hell out of battery, i think it struggles and because of that get hot, and that because it's hot drains my battery faster, but, if you proove me wrong i might be imagining.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Now look. Fast battery drain while playing games is more than normal. If you talk about very fast battery drain while typical usage,then it's another story.

But long story short,my phone can handle every 1% for 4 minutes when my phone is warm with normal usage,and 1% per 3 minutes with hard usage,and that's normal,because that's why it's called "hard". Ex. is using browser for long time or watching videos on youtube,or multitasking with more than 5 apps. That where the phone gets hot and battery starts to drain slightly faster.

If your phone gets hot with normal,light usage,then your steps are acceptable.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
This is weird.

I use currently 600 MB zRam on 4 devices and I can multitask a lot.

Maybe you should also reset your LMK settings to defaults if you played with them.

zRam works as a compressed area in the ram (which is only used on demand), where we put swap space into it to increase virtually the ram.

So, if zRam is required, it will be used and deducted from normal ram. If not, then not.

55-58 C is not a problem at all for the Exynos SoC used.

For 4.3 stock rom use the latest 5.3 beta kernel.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
I use default LMK settings,and changing them didn't help. Changing zRam settings or swap also doesn't really help,I can't understand that.

For example,I run twitter,vkontakte,ask.fm,odnoklassniki,skype apps at the same time,and I can see them in task manager. But as soon as I use one app for 1 minute,3 apps get killed and max. 3 apps are left open at the same time in task manager. Or even if I run only 4 apps and no more,still,if I will use one app for 1 min or more,one of the other apps get killed and only 3 are left. Without zRam it was 2. I can't remember how did zRam worked before as I never cared about it before,but after turning it back on,I found this to be weird and I expected to run at least 4 apps at the same time without any shut down of one of the apps. Is it normal or it's me?

Also,does changing zRam or swap settings need a reboot?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] lsalamun:
Well with light usage it is not hot, only when playing video/gaming, so i undervolted it and now it is fine, but somehow i think i am reducing phones lifespan with undervolting i.e. killing it.

Thanks for your answers though.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Undervolting would never kill your phone. In fact it would even increase life time (in theory).

All that can go wrong with undervolting is freezes, hot reboots and maybe incosistent data as a result (so you have to install your rom from scratch again).

But nothing else can happen with undervolting...

Still, I do not recommend it due to the reasons listed above.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] lsalamun:
Well it i didn't uv before because i tought it can be bad, but now i tried and went extreme, a full cycle 21h on battery and 4h30 sot, i never got such good results, with 2y old battery, i always good round 3-3:30h.

Many say that's a placebo, and i believe it can also be but now the results have amased me.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tmac31:
well its not about app quantity if im not wrong zram compresses background apps not the 1 on your screen so if its a very big app still apps at background can get killed. i can open 5-6 apps without problem but generally i have 350-400 mb free ram too so multitasking isnt a problem for me. zram helps alot on multiasking but if you set it to 600 mb it doesnt give you 600 mb extra ram dont forget it.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
I know that. I'm about my situation. I can run 3 apps max at the same time continuously with zRam on and 2 without zRam.

I thought I can easily run at least 4 apps without any shutdown,as I did on AOSP. Stock ROM sucks when it comes to multitasking.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tmac31:
well im on stock based rom(archidroid 1.7) with 600 mb zram. i can open 5 tabs on browser twitter youtube whatsapp and phone app without problem. but like i said i have around 400 mb free ram when everything is closed.did you try it after a restart too?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Yeah (2 restarts),I set it to 600 mb,swappiness to 60 and still it doesn't work as it should. I remember it was better before. Then I reflashed the ROM,turned zRam off and after turning it back off,nothing changed.

There's something wrong. I want proper multitasking! =(
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Why swappiness to 60?

Standard in Boeffla-Kernel when you enable zRam is 80.

You should even consider setting it to 90 or 95... so the zRam is also more getting used. Maybe that makes a diffference for you.

And just by the way... you are not using apps like task killers, greenify etc. that stop other apps? Or xposed framework modules that can do it?

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Good questions :)

I already tried 90,95 and 80. If it needs restart,then it's a pain... I changed without restart,so I don't know.

About task killers,I used greenify to kill small apps like stock gallery,supersu which were running on the background,but it sucked so I already uninstalled and everything is running as it should,but situation didn't change. But after uninstalling I didn't restart,though.

One note: when I turned zRam off,I set swap to 30 and it didn't change after turning zRam on. It was still 30.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tmac31:
i use swapiness at 100 u can try it you dont need to restart after settings change. and you dont need to change if always its one same setting for me for like 3-4 months,

and are you sure greenify isnt killing your background apps cuz its starts working whenever you close screen.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
I just restarted the phone (greenify uninstalled) and set swappiness to 95. Let's see how it goes.

EDIT: glad to report that multitasking seems to be improved. 4 apps are now holding fine. Still testing.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] PIRATA!:
Andi, I'm facing similar problem since a while and haven't done anything to my device. Only time has passed.

I have a 4.3 custom rom and always had final 5.2 since March and never tried any 5.3 betas, only kept updated the Boeffla Config app.

I'd lime to try last 5.3 beta6...but I've noticed that there's also a beta6a on the forum...or am I mistaken?? In case, what is that for?? I've lost the post...

For the mean time I'll try to manage auth zRam and LMK like you said.

Thank you.

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Ah! Forgot...what are your Miscellaneous settings? LMK, Swappiness...

About zRam as I'm correct your on 4x600, right?

Thank you
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Alright,seems like nothing changed. I can't multitask with more than 3 apps. Phone can handle even 5 apps after a restart,but after some time,multitasking gets worse. Maybe ROM issue. Not about changing kernels,though.

Meh,I'm giving up.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SaschaKH:
You mean that:

Samsung JB 4.4.x kernel - Test:

Note: This kernel is highly experimental,

use on own risk !!!

6.0-beta4

What ever you mean, I'm rather sure the Boeffla-Config would tell about if it was interesting.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
For Samsung based Android 4.3 roms, version 5.3-beta6 is the latest version.

For Samsung based (ported) Android 4.4. roms (like Archiport), version 6.0-beta4 is the latest version.

But all is explained in every detail as well on the homepage (www.boeffla-kernel.de).

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Another problem. Android OS is draining my battery when my phone is asleep. Today it managed to drain my battery to the end,phone was turned off and I needed to plug it in charger. Can't get what to do,and haven't found any solutions. Only best is to wipe,but I did it only one week ago,don't want to go through that again. Crap =(
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Android OS draining battery is not kernel related.

It is most probably stuff like Google apps doing that.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Hey,Andi.

I just installed the stock kernel from your site and it seems like it was about the kernel. Multitasking is quite damn good.

That's how it worked and tended to hold these apps for long. As it comes to true multitasking,4 apps are holding surely fine even after turning browser on. It kills one app and 3 other remain there so it is just 4. If I multitask without browser,it can even hold up to 5 of big apps for quite long time,but much needed multitasking with 4 apps is present without any random shutdowns.

Maybe there is a trick for boeffla kernel to reset it's settings or something like that? I tried creating new profile but that didn't help.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Well, hm, no. There is no trick.

Boeffla Kernel zRam handling is not much changed compared to stock kernel. Only the fact you can have multiple devices there, but thats it.

I have no clue, honestly.

You can of course reset the whole config via the boeffla-config v2 settings menu. This will erase all made configurations and directly reboot your phone.

But I doubt this will help in your case.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] PIRATA!:
I nave quite same situation, but haven't tried the stock kernel.

In addition, I notice apps killed while screen is off, like my Digital Imported app, or Runtastic, or PowerAmp.

I have all them set on Resident in the AppSettings Xposed module, but still get killed.

My ram is always quite full as I see something like 8/12 apps closed when I empty ram from Samsung task manager.

I really don't know what to think.

On last 5.3 bata6 kernel abs last Boeffla Config app, with increased min cpu freq to 400, zRam to 4x600.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
I have no problem

zram 4 devices to 400 megabytes, and everything is fine

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[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
There's really something strange is going on. I have the same RAM consumption,but it gets cleared itself regularly. No modules,apps or anything.

Ex.: I was running that 5 apps (like on that second screenshot),then I tapped menu button from my launcher and went in "manage apps" tab. There were all small and my apps running (as usual and normal) and suddenly,after 3 seconds,all of them got killed! Only badgeprovider (or smth) and calendarstorage were left. I checked task manager and only 2 apps have been left in memory (no cpu usage).

That is really strange. I remember that was a normal behaviour on our purely optimized by Samsung ROM,but not quite as often as it happens now for me. I wasn't testing stock kernel for long,but I did one clear comparison: I opened 5 apps (again,like on that screenshot),then Internet Browser. Then checked task manager and 2 apps got killed and only 4 have been left. No matter what I was doing,that 4 apps kept there and didn't shutdown (20 minutes of testing). Then I flashed boeffla kernel setting reset and then boeffla kernel. Tweaked it as you all recommended and restarted. Then did same steps like on stock. Turned on 5 apps and then internet browser and 3 apps got immediately killed and only 3 were left in memory. I opened 4th app and went in browser again,opened second tab,browsed some and then looked in task manager and again there were only 3 apps left.

I'm not sure still that it can be kernel,maybe that was coincidence. As always,I need to hit a problem,lol,and now some hard testing and bla bla starts again. But I will do it :D Will report back.

EDIT: Also,I dunno,maybe it is supposed to be like that? (would be good if someone would do the same test for me and tell me how it went). I mean,before,I never looked in task manager and never monitored which apps are running and which ones are shutdown,but I kinda remember that apps weren't reopening much when playing between them,even after browser , especially on aosp ROMs. AOSP had so amazing multitasking,I just never seen any reopening when running all 4 apps (no skype in recents) and browser (total 5 apps),and just after returning from browser none of apps were loading fully back again. That's what I noticed for sure when I was on AOSP for first time.

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I'm done with testing. It's NOT kernel related. =)

I dunno what it can be,maybe it's a ROM issue. Btw,how can greenify or any other task killers affect zRam? They are just killing small apps,not the ones I use,right? I was on greenify before (zRam off) and maybe even after uninstalling,there's still something left in memory or anything like that?

Guys,just tell if it's normal when phone handles just for 100% without any shutdowns only 3 apps max and no more? Without zRam it's 2. It's like there's no point in enabling it.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] 99x:
Continuing the apps closing theme...sometimes Google maps navigation will close when screen is off, which never used to happen - trying to find a pattern to identify the cause is tricky. The app is not greenified etc
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
As I wrote above (new post),it seems like it's not kernel related (???). We can't blow andi for this :)

But,yeah,it used to be better before I turned zRam off for 2 days and turned it on again.

EDIT: here's the example of what happened. I was running these apps fine,but as soon as I turned music app on,it killed one app and then another one followed. Tell me if it's normal and shut me up! :D
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tmac31:
which rom are you using?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] AssassinGEO:
Archidroid 1x.

A little about android OS drain. This what I get,and I can't fix this. It drained half of my battery within those 3 hours. Is this really about the kernel?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Would be good if you could use BetterBatteryStats and then looking at the section "partial wakelocks" and "kernel wakelocks".

This would help much more to pinpoint your drain.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] marenp:
Never saw something like that but i have ArchiDroid 1.x on my phone and flashed Boeffla kernel after and mate, i didn't had any problems with...
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
my screens above are the stock / ODEX / rom

remove bloatware you do not use
[Galaxy S III Android Development] d1rekt0r:
Latest v6b4 is amazing , I'm using 4 zram on 600mb as I heard that's the stock value ? Anyway , no freezes or reboots and battery 0% drain over 8.5 hours !
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
No. Stock value is 300 mb on one device.

But don't change your configuration when it runs perfect for you.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
New beta

Hi all,

unfortunately I had to skip my plan to release the kernel as stable now.

Due to a quite significant bug in CPU scaling when you used 1700 MHz overclocking, I want to do one more beta before it will come out as stable.

Version 5.3-beta7 +

Version 6.0-beta5

04.07.2014

Correct frequency scaling issues when using 1700 MHz overclocking (the 1700 step is now replaced by 1704, you will be automatically converted) - thanks to ZaneZam for help

Set correct permissions for boeffla-kernel-data folder during every startup

Corrected power preset

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] glockaki:
How can i enable the knock on feature?i tried to enable it but doesnt respond!im on archidroid 1.7.i also updated config app and kernel to latest beta
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Because the kernel you use does not yet support it.

In fact, no Boeffla-Kernel so far supports it. Just the app is already prepared.

Excerpt from the change log of the app:

* Added knock on configuration = double tap to wake (kernel support required, planned during next week)

Full change log of the app:

http://boeffla.df-kunde.de/bc_update/changelog.htm

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] glockaki:
Ohhh!in my excitement didnt read the chengelog...my bad!will wait for the next release to play with it.thanks andi!and sorry for that.will be more cautious next time!
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
No problem. It is a widely known "problem" people are excited and do not properly read change logs :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] stoianmitkov:
Why knock don't want to set on?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Full HD:
Really!!!??? Read two posts above yours :what:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Aonja:
graphical glitches fixed?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Does the change log mention something?

I am really tired answering the same question again and again.

If something is in the change log -> yes.

If not, then probably -> no.

I still have not seen them + I am not having the port installed on any of my phones at the moment. It does not have my priority, as mentioned already many times before.

Thanks for understanding

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
Yep, those questions have already been answered multiple times

But Andi great job on the application and the kernel

many thanks i ZaneZam great idea for a governor

it seems indeed that was a bug in cpu

We'll see, it will all be tested

Soon it will be stable version

big thanks to all
[Galaxy S III Android Development] themulvster:
Hi LB

Do you plan to release a version of your kernel that would be compatible with UltimaRom v17? It's a 4.4.2 Stock Rom, but you probably already know that ;)

Cheers
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Choristav:
What do you mean? It's already supported

By the way andi, are the 'System tweaks' outdated stuff or do they serve any purpose nowadays?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] themulvster:
Do you have a link to the supported kernel please? I can't seem to find it anywhere...

The version that comes with the UltimaRom v17 thinks my Ext SD Card is empty so I cannot save my Vids to the Ext SD Card so I had to select a different Kernel
[Galaxy S III Android Development] keneth_c:
Google Boeffla kernel... Visit the website... And so some reading my friend :)

Or read OP / Post # 1!
[Galaxy S III Android Development] d1rekt0r:
I see alot of you talking about OC , and I have read countless articles and poats here on xda about it being bad or not and I want to ask you Andi as a kernel developer , do you use OC , How dangerous is it exactly (1600mhz)?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Choristav:
You'll receieve a most similar reply from andi, it's not dangerous, the only way to damage a processor is through voltage or temperature, not frequency itself.

It's the 6.0 beta 5, ultrom has beta 4 right now.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] d1rekt0r:
I see that voltage is 1400@ 1600 mhz , if I lower it to 1300 (stock for 1400 mhz?) [MENTION=1796504]1600[/MENTION] mhz would that be ok , considering its stable*?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Choristav:
Yes, don't hesitate to try anything of 1400mV and under, it's over 1400mV that problems might arise (although, then again, 1704Mhz on stock is at 1425mV, so even 1425 is alright).

Just remember that if you go too low on the undervolting, your device will freeze, but never damage itself. A quick way of fixing it is to go into recovery -> internal sdcard/boeffla-config data folder/ flash the settings reset.zip
[Galaxy S III Android Development] VanXamar:
Hi guys how come my settings are getting reset every now and then? the scheduler and the lmk settings are getting reset all the time. Very randomly. It always goes back to default.

All the other settings stay the same.

Anyone knows what the problem is?

Boeffla app 2.1.43

Kernel 5.2 stable

I searched couldn't find anything.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] JustArchi:
This is because you flashed third-party magic tweaks and now you blame totally wrong project.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] themulvster:
Thank you for your helpful reply, going to try 6 beta 5 later ;)

Do you think I should re flash the whole ROM or just flash the kernel over the Archikernel I have installed at the mo?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
You can flash directly Boeffla kernel

but prefers a clean install, stock kernel and then flash custom kernel

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Boeffla after flash the kernel, install the application config v2
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SaschaKH:
A kernel is a separate thing. There is not a thing like a clean or a dirty flash of the kernel. If the ROM has a problem cause it was dirty flashed a different kernel will not change anything on the problems.

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[Galaxy S III Android Development] themulvster:
I am now wondering, I installed v6 beta 5 Boeffla and still my device thinks my SD card is empty.

I wonder if it is because of the way my SD card is formatted. I think it is Fat32 and should it be ExFat or NTFS?

Does Boeffla only support a certain type of formatting?

Edit- My card is ExFat, just confirmed on my laptop :)
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Louis235:
Wrong thread, sorry.