yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
Wow, 128 thanks! Did not expect this post to be this popular. If you want to keep updated with changes I would keep an eye out for it as it will nto be a sticky for much longer (the admin PM'ed me this morning), but it will be linked to from one of the stickies so it should still be easy to find.

Once I get my hands one, and get my screwdrivers out we will hopefully know a lot more. Not long to go now! ;)

EDIT: Added Adreno 320 API details thanks to Shaky156
[Nexus 4 General] Spitfire:
Ah, is this what the problem is? I know the galaxy nexus had no lag so I was wondering why this one would have reports of lag. If so, that's great news.
[Nexus 4 General] Shaky156:
2 cpu revision (1 rev requires Higher vdd)

Adreno320 GPU Freqs, 27,128,200,325,400Mhz

Adreno320 lowest vdd 900, highest 1200

3 versions of adreno320 gpu, 1 of the versions go upto 450mhz

Whats controlling the CPU & GPU freqs is DCVS (DCVS manager send info , the algorithm outputs freqs for CPU & GPU)

CPU has 4 cores with 1 sensor per core

I just copied that from the thread I created I'll put the info on here itll be much cleaner n ill just request my thread to get deleted lol

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Whats I dont understand is how the Nexus can have an APQ8064 in that, as Qualcomm states APQ are for tablets NOT for mobile devices as it does NOT feature a modem, aso the name should definitely be under MSM and not APQ :s

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It's an the APQ8064 with a modem so they should be calling it MSM8064 lol
[Nexus 4 General] Dragooon123:
Probably because they're using some external modem like the Optimus G which also uses the same chipset. There isn't a version of APQ8064 with a cell modem.
[Nexus 4 General] Shaky156:
Oh yeah forgot about that lol
[Nexus 4 General] thunderger:
Does someone know if the 3.5 mm jack supports video out? Because it is written that it is a 4-pin type and perhaps analog video out is possible. My car navigation system supports aux in by 3.5 mm jack with 4-pin. :D
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
Seriously doubt it supports.

It has 4 pins to accommodate for a microphone connection.

Ground, left output, right output and microphone input.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Thanks for this
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Sorry for this OT but i need somebody help me with something. I'm from Venezuela and i have to look for someone in the US to buy the phone and send me here and i pay to him for that. But a friend living in Orlando, Fl, is saying that the phone is 349+TAX+shipping for a grand total of 480$ is that possible? Hope someone can help me!

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[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
In my case for PA; $349 + 8% (I think for tax) + $20 (Shipping; would probably be less I'd imagine?) = $396.92

If the tax is applied to the product + shipping, it would be like $398 or so, not really much more.

As for how your friend is getting $480, Fl would have to have some insane tax amount...
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Well i was on FL at January and when i go to buy some stuff the tax was 6.5% so i don't know how would be that much. I think he want to make some money from me

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[Nexus 4 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
That isnt your "friend"
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
I live in Ohio. Our tax rate is 6.75%. I paid $380 for my Galaxy Nexus, so your price should be very similar. I don't know how much it would cost shipping from Florida to Venezuela though.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
There is no problem here. They are saying only enable it when debugging equipment is connected to the earjack. Fringe edge case.

The only thing I could maybe imply is headset controls would be affected but I can't fathom a situation where the UART is used for that.

This seems like an issue that would never affect the end user of the device in a consumer setting.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Last OT, how many time you guys think the shipping will take?

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[Nexus 4 General] filthykid:
Hi, are you sure about 720p @ 60 fps recording? I couldnt find it nowhere on internet.

And I believe @ 60 fps the video will be laser smooth! Isn't it?
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
What makes the IMX111PQ so special with it's highest bitrate for 60fps 720p?

111: 18 Mb/frame

091: 12.4 Mb/frame

081: 15 Mb/frame
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Has any reviewer received the final release software yet?
[Nexus 4 General] filips666:
no, OTA will be tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
Droid-life.com has a hands on of final

Edit: not final software.
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
Nope they don't, just said they receive the update tomorrow.

Edit: they are updating :)
[Nexus 4 General] DforDesign:
Li-ion Polmer battery means it's lithum-polymer battery, not lithum ion, right? If so then there is a small mistake in OP.
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
yeah, according to my knowledge,lithum-polymer is better than lithum ion^^
[Nexus 4 General] mikereidis:
You know it's OT, please start a new thread. This is a technical info thread.

To those responding to OT, please stop.

Thank you....

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On topic content:

Once someone has a rooted device, I'd be very happy to see a debug log from my FM app, to see if there's any chance of OTA FM on Nexus 4.

PM me, email or ask on Q&A thread in my sig for details.
[Nexus 4 General] afteron:
So has anyone tried using mhl cable? Im not really sure if slimport's $30 is worth the money over something a $1 mhl cable could already do.

its the same price as a netgear push2tv ptv1000.

i hope someone could test it using mhl cables.
[Nexus 4 General] scandalousk:
Does anybody know if the nexus 4 supports wifi @ 5ghz?
[Nexus 4 General] c_86:
Really? Search.... its listed on googles specs for the phone... ugh.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
the video rec only 22fps @9mbps :silly:

https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/268331140136452098 :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] banesi:
Here's some specs from videos I found on xda:
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Very crappy, I hope the dev community can do something.
[Nexus 4 General] joshdu1125:
More question on the camera

The Camera is definitely a irritating soft spot for the GNex.

I know most of the reviews seem to agree the Nexus 4 camera is somewhere a little less impressive than S3.

I just want to know from a pure hardware perspective, how does this Sony IMX 111 sensor stack up to the IMX 145 sensor on both the iPhones(4s/5) and S3.

Which one comes out first? Could one of those two a more high end product from Sony?

For one thing I know the IMX 145 has a cell unit size of 1.4um and IMX 111 only has 1.12um ?

Is that a good thing or perhaps indicative for a weaker low light performance?

Really would like some professional opinion, I know digital photography is way more than the sensor, but since this thread did such a comprehensive job breaking things down, I think it's a great starting point for evaluating Nexus 4's camera performance.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
IMX 145 is better and bigger and its CMOS sensor :)
[Nexus 4 General] hiepa2:
Does anyone buy this Nexus 4?? How much storage of N4 16GB in real??:confused: I mean, 13GB is really small...:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] RenegadeDroid:
Awesome

I was so jealous for the people in the US to already have the phone but turns out (almost) nobody got it. I'm hoping Europe doesnt do the same and I will definitely buy this phone, amazing specs good work
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
about 11gb :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] joshdu1125:
well, they are all CMOS sensor, and I do know from fact 145 is a bigger sensor. So when you say better, what's your basis beside size?

I do have a feeling that Imx 111 might be a newer product than 145, and somehow Sony is pushing for smaller pixel unit size for mobile sensor.

Just look at their next gen sensor http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/20/sony-exmor-rs-cameraphone-sensor-hdr-video/
[Nexus 4 General] NeilMonday:
the zip from google for the Nexus 4 has a file called android-info.txt which contains the text:

require version-baseband=M9615A-CEFWMAZM-2.0.1700.33

This seems different than the baseband you list on the first post (MDM9215). Are these two numbers supposed to match? Is one a version number and one a model number?
[Nexus 4 General] Allanitomwesh:
You should state the user available memory is less than the nand size at 5gb for the 8gb and 13gb for the 16gb on average. And also note that there's no expansion slot.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
And we have to remember system partitions too..

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[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
It is the 9215, software revisions often cover multiple hardware revisions, for example kernels for 1GHz snapdragon devices always referenced a different CPU to what was in the device. It just means they can cover multiple SKU's with one baseband
[Nexus 4 General] yostral:
No.There's no partition, like on the Gnex. That's why you can't have UMS. Everything is on one partition, so you can use the free space for whatever you need.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Ty for the tip

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[Nexus 4 General] Imppy:
Sources say that Nexus 4 that got shipped on Nov. 15 got headphones!

http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/138h6v/just_received_my_nexus_4_no_shipping_mail/

Is this true?
[Nexus 4 General] winappleworld:
Nexus 4 was sold out in 15 mins :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Mine shipped on the 15th, no headphones.

If anyone wants any screen shots or has questions about it feel free to ask and ill do my best to help! :)
[Nexus 4 General] xantonin:
WiFi Clarification

Can anyone clarify the WiFi support? For example:

20mhz or 40mhz (wideband) support

5 GHz channels

To elaborate on the 5GHz channels, my router can use channels from 36-64 and 100-165, however I've noticed some N devices can't connect to all of these. For example my laptop can only connect to 36-64. On the reverse, I've not had any luck getting the Nexus 4 to connect to the channels below 64.
[Nexus 4 General] izenja:
Output impedance

Has anyone measured the output impedance of the audio jack? I'll measure it myself when I get it (who knows when that'll be though) but I might possibly cancel my order if it's bad.
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
I can connect to my 5GHz net on channel 36
[Nexus 4 General] DforDesign:
RAM is Samsung K3PE0E00A

NAND is Toshiba THGBM5G6A2JBA1R (for 8GB)

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/3
[Nexus 4 General] beyaz-siyah:
8 gb storage memory is very low :p still lacking on one side
[Nexus 4 General] mbutandola:
Just posting to subscribe. Cheers.

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[Nexus 4 General] monoelectron:
larger battery

well thats good to know the battery isnt welded in there. there might be a change seidio will eventually make a larger capacity battery or maybe there might be a similar one that fits in there. i wouldnt say no to a bigger battery :D
[Nexus 4 General] jcgtreize:
According to it's size, it's hard for a manufacturer to make a larger capacity battery. The only way seems to change size, so change the back of the phone... and as we know, our phone has many antennas included inside the back plate.:o
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
Really awesome reference! Thanks for the effort :good:

However, I noticed two things that you could change:

You could add that it is a Dual-channel RAM running at 533 MHz (8.5 GB/sec)

1066 MHz is correct too, since you double the frequency in DDR RAM modules.

The Nexus 4 uses a Lithium Polymer (LiPo) battery. Lithium Ion (Li-ion) is a different technology

Well, that's about it. Everything else seems to be quite complete.

Keep up the good work!
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
The full name for Li-Po batteries is lithium-ion polymer, which is what is on the first post.
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
The more you know...
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
Might want to unify the speeds?
[Nexus 4 General] nagle3092:
No need to fix the speeds just the labels. The frequency is 533mhz but the transfer rate is 1066. Just the way DDR works. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_data_rate#section_1
[Nexus 4 General] izenja:
I just measured the output impedance of the headphone jack on mine and it looks to be about 2-3 ohms, which is excellent. This means it should match well with pretty much any headphone/IEM. There's a chance I messed up the measurement though - the plug I was using wouldn't go fully into the jack for some reason and I had to hold it down.
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
Correct, but front page still isn't listing it that way. Prophet put both 1066 and 533 into the same line now, not mentioning DDR.

Better would be:

Speed: 1066MHz DDR
[Nexus 4 General] parker09:
Thought this might be the best place to ask, but with the proximity sensor, could anyone give a 'exact' location to where it is, some of us need to cut a whole in the screen protectors to get it to work more efficiently.

If there's a template it would be even better :P

Nevermind, found it.
[Nexus 4 General] noodles2224:
Its right there on the left image. Don't cover the 2 sensors.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] parker09:
Ah damn, that makes it a bit harder to work out where one of them is.
[Nexus 4 General] muratturatci:
thanks for the detailed information :)
[Nexus 4 General] yym789:
My nexus4 dead! I flashed Mako005 and Red led show to me. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
I didn't make to get the device and you bricked one... Great.. XD

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[Nexus 4 General] xaps:
I'm curious about this, too.
[Nexus 4 General] yym789:
we'll have OC capability soon enough if we want it anyways.
[Nexus 4 General] rehughe:
Does anyone know what kind of microphones it is using?

Knowles Electronics mic's are significantly better performing than their competitors....
[Nexus 4 General] azncber:
These specs definitely look amazing. Here's hoping it works with the unlimited data plans with att.
[Nexus 4 General] nskowyra:
Seems to work fine, you will get throttled above 2 Gb however I believe.
[Nexus 4 General] cpaixao:
Congrats. How you did this? And why?

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Hope Bedalus is planning to make a audio review for Nexus 4! He has high expertise on that.
[Nexus 4 General] shotta35:
This is exactly how AT&T would like you to think so you'll buy "their" phones instead of unlocked ones. AT&T is using FCC frequency (which is owned by the people at that) and conforms to the specifications it is handed, not creates. When FCC tests phones is to see if they confirm to those specifications.

AT&T LTE is another story though, but getting HSPA+ speeds will just be a matter of not being on a limited APN or something (which they do have).
[Nexus 4 General] illusionistpro:
I dont understand how Nexus Galaxy aka Nexus 3 would have LTE but Nexus 4 (which has just the nexus branding) has no LTE. This was also released after the galaxy s3 which is widely marketed and has LTE. Two steps forward and one step backwards if you ask me.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
LTE isn't all countrys, there is more HSPA+ that LTE, and when G NEX were released it doesn't come with LTE either...
[Nexus 4 General] :
Unfortunately I won't be upgrading just yet.
[Nexus 4 General] rmkilc:
The Galaxy Nexus does not have LTE. It is an HSPA+ device, just like the Nexus 4. But yes, there was a Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus, which should have never been called a Nexus (and Google will never make that mistake again), that has LTE. It is a CDMA, single carrier device.
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
And a Sprint CDMA device with LTE. Very fast and very poor battery life when enabled
[Nexus 4 General] vj_dustin:
Is it true that the Micro USB can act as a Micro HDMI port as well?
[Nexus 4 General] ata1918:
I don't think so. It should be a MyDisplayPort. So no MHL, yet a nother standard. Ughh
[Nexus 4 General] morrislee:
I am not sure if this has been seen but the test results and the amplifier are actually there for band 1, 2, and 4 as stated in this analysys

That being discovered, all hardware required is all there, fully supported, just hidding in software
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
That only shows support for Band 4, which means it's uses are extremely limited. The fact it was never tested at the FCC also means it legally can't be "turned on" officially at any point in time.
[Nexus 4 General] ReValeX:
do you think the future will be able to operate the OTG??
[Nexus 4 General] sarkozy:
Stop with the nonsense. Nexus is a consumer brand, not an idealistic star in the sky.
[Nexus 4 General] morrislee:
You think, we think, they think. Doesn't matter, Google has changed the online manual to say USB devices not supported.
[Nexus 4 General] Sahrum:
Thanks man, this realy helped me!
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
It'll be supported when roms come in and save the day.
[Nexus 4 General] robto:
Mmmm red somewhere that the problem is that the micro usb connector does not provide the quired 5 vols power to devices, so..... I am afraid we will not have otg: hardware issue, no software solution :(

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[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
Yes someone saying that its not possible in future to get otg support due to hardware issue....:banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] alexandr_stok:
bad to hear
[Nexus 4 General] Nathanation:
Can it output audio through the USB port? Anyone tried it?
[Nexus 4 General] B3rt0:
That is indeed unfortunate :\ But there are wireless storages one could use!
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Anyone can tell me if mhl adapter isn't work for n4? Or i have to get a slimport one..

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[Nexus 4 General] rmkilc:
Nexus 4 does not support MHL. Only Slimport.
[Nexus 4 General] mikereidis:
There's a trial version linked in the overview of this USB recording app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudiorecorderpro

No mention of Nexus 4 as working or not here, but Nexus 7 & 10 are listed as good: http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
[Nexus 4 General] Bluewall:
wrong thread, all my apologies !
[Nexus 4 General] koXxEr1337:
Thank you very much for all the information!

Maybe you want to add the touch screen resolution, which is approx. 2559x1535 pt (measured by the calibration function of GMD Gesture Control)
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Does anyone know how many cores the Adreno 320 is?
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
4 core GPU. The upcoming Tegra 4 is going to have 72.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Cores on GPU doesn't mean anything. The Tegra 2 GPU has 12 cores.

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[Nexus 4 General] igerup:
Interesting how the only components made by LG are the screen and the battery. Makes you wonder about all the other droid-phone makers...
[Nexus 4 General] rmkilc:
That's how it is with practically all of them. I suppose there are some Samsung phones where they make the majority of the parts.
[Nexus 4 General] jonup:
Wonder if OG is the same case. Maybe is was Google's preference.
[Nexus 4 General] m0ta666:
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
Wasn't Google's preference. It just doesn't make sense for ANY phone maker to produce all of the components themselves (they'd have to design, test, and manufacture everything=$$$).
[Nexus 4 General] karan_singh_9008:
That is how the electronics industry is. If it was every company designing everything, then imagine the cost we buyers would have to incur!!! and LG has to modify the drivers for the chipsets and design the phone to meet all the regulations. its complicated. But trust me, this is the best fit.:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] milan03:
Can anyone find the official confirmation on whether Nexus 4 is AMR-WB "HD Voice" certified?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] i860:
wit

NIce, pretty comprehensive. Thank you
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
No official confirmation, but it appears that the baseband and codec supports it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1963885

Edit: Users are getting calls in HD as well:
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
How do we can try that thing? I noticed that calls on my gs2 wasn't that clear and good as now on my n4

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[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
It should be automatic if your phone has the functionality (I don't have my nexus yet so I can't try :()
[Nexus 4 General] Fr33L4nc3r:
AFAIK, one must check his/her carrier also support this option.
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
That too. :P
[Nexus 4 General] yorkiepudd:
thence ntsBulp

Cant wait to get one of these.

Just gone back on sale in the UK (1-2 weeks delivery)
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
For anyone who's interested. I have the Qualcomm roadmap for 2013 and the next Android version update schedule.

PM if you are interested.
[Nexus 4 General] NirvanaAndroid:
Thank you :)
[Nexus 4 General] allgsmnetwork:
Hi friends,

I read all specification wikipedia / qualcomm GPU adreno 320 have 520 mhz dual chanel total 1mb GPU is possibile? i creed yes...the scores 2.5.1 gl benchmark adreno 320 better power vr sgx 543mp of Iphone 5 :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Learn about Multi Channel memory

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memory_architecture

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[Nexus 4 General] billgc138:
Impressive and very tempting
[Nexus 4 General] zerosource:
After all the listed parts and manufacturers, this LG rocks!
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Which type of memory ram uses?

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[Nexus 4 General] tma24:
Hi. What is the difference between Mako and Occam? THX
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
The phone name is Mako. The software is occam.

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[Nexus 4 General] mikeleus:
OTG

Hi everyone!

So does it support OTG or not? I'm trying to connect an PS3 controller to the phone, and nothing happens...

I read online and people were saying (December) that google removed OTG support on the device.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
Perhaps OTG support could be re-implemented in the kernel. However, AFAIK the N4 is not capable of supplying +5V in OTG mode so you'd need it connected to a powered hub, which is why they removed it from the specs. I don't know if it would work unpowered at all, or if somehow the Slimport controller in the N4 kills OTG totally.

Can you not use Bluetooth to connect said controller?
[Nexus 4 General] raiderpig:
I can't wait to come home from the desert! I have a N4 waiting for me at home. I put Paranoid on my N7 and am loving it so far!
[Nexus 4 General] mammenj:
Is there any changes from hardware rev 10 to rev 11?
[Nexus 4 General] pirasalbe:
Thank you, it is easy to understand

I can't wait my N4 that come to my house Monday :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] :
Thanks

Very useful, thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] noah290396:
Our N4 runs with an S600

Yeah our N4 runs with an S600. Yeah the same beast wich set in the HTC One. You don't trust me?! Read this bit.ly/13vQ9pk
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
According to ifixit, the nexus 4 has a Murata SS2908001 802.11 a/b/g/n Wi‐Fi and Bluetooth module.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/3

You can check other specs there and update other parts accordingly.
[Nexus 4 General] killazys:
Anyone know the driver for the proximity sensor? I want to disable it when I'm calling someone, and based on my research disabling the driver is the only way..
[Nexus 4 General] Tsnatcha:
Thank You!

Everything I ever wanted to know. You have my thanks..
[Nexus 4 General] Sochweeet:
Thanks

Thanks a lot for the specs, im buying it today, :):good:
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
No Need to wait for the teardown, check the FCC photos. Two small screws stand between you and a replaceable battery :D
[Nexus 4 General] detdett:
How does the screen quality measure up with Galaxy s3? IPS vs super omled
[Nexus 4 General] CrashR:
Front Camera

Did you miss the front camera?

From Play Store

1.3 MP (front)