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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Elwino2.3:
I using Sony phones about 2-3 years.

Sony Ericsson W20i Zylo>Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 mini pro>Sony Ericsson Xperia ray>Sony Xperia U

Planning to buy Xperia S.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] amarjit_rsingh:
Mostly No, Reason being very few developers for Sony Devices compared to Samsung or HTC
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
I love Sony products and their attitude to developers, but now that the Nexus 4 is out it's quite clear we have a new market leader. The name's Google guys, and you'd better get used to it.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
I wish I could sit here and say that Sony is really good but for us UK sim free users they have been an absolute joke, from the word go Sony have dragged their heels with updates for the uk and by the looks of it they are trying their hardest to forget about us. I can't believe I paid £430 for this in march when the 16Gb nexus 4 will be selling for £279, I'll certainly be selling my Xperia s and getting something else which really is a dam shame.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] darth5zaft:
Probably. I can get $60 rebate when buying smartphone in January. So Odin or yola should be unveiled by then. Lets look at the prices/spect first, it look like nexus 4 will be my next.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Another reason not to go with Sony again :mad:

http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/314795#314795

Apparently Sony have looked into mobile bravia engine not working on ics and it only affects those who have unlocked bootloaders and they're now playing the voided warranty card :banghead:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] realfelix:
Google's the way to go guys.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
Yeah? For 400 euro you should want to recive more
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
My bootloader isn't unlocked
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] del1701:
Oh dear, well this is what's being said by Sony support, tbh I don't think they have a clue and are trying to get out of it :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
The new approach they took to Bravia Engine is more reliable, it should be more stable in JB.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] huntedsoul12:
Hmm, I like Sony's design and UI but now Nexus 4 is out on the road and the price tag I saw was no brainer... Almost half the price of what I paid for XpS and was about to pay for Xperia T...

Noway I'll be buying Sony or another manufacturer's phone when I can get Nexus 4 on alomst half the price and it Vanilla Android.

Its not that they are bad.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] CyberBulletz:
The only thing I can say is, further devices I buy should be Nexus only.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Some members seem to feel we the moderators have been some what heavy handed in our dealing with these types of threads so I have decided I will reopen this thread for discusion I emphasize DUSCUSION. I expect people to remain civil with each other. If anyone starts flaming other members or this turns into a SONY SUCKS COES I GOTZ NO JB I will shut it down in a heartbeat.

Regards

Eddie

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mrsatan:
Xperia U only has 512 of ram, i bet that is one of the reasons.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dante2086:
It's funny how everyone wants a Nexus 4. It's a good and reasonably priced phone no doubt. But I'm not even considering it for two good reasons. The first being the 16GB max memory, with no expansion at all. SERIOUSLY?! Well, in my country, internet is expensive, I need offline storage. My 32GB SXS is almost full. Secondly, it's an LG, and they just suck. Putting good specs in a phone is one thing, but not everything. And LGs have weak cameras. My next phone might not be a Sony though. There are seriously behind in the phone and tablet game. I remember the glory Sony Ericsson days of the P800, the K700, the S700, the K750, the W800 and W850, and the K800. Anytime word came that Sony Ericsson was about to release a phone, Nokia and Samsung began to palpitate. But let's see how Odin turns out.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Galaxen:
On topic, Id probably would never buy another Sony phone.. even if its a Nexus.. not sure if even Google could force Sony to put in latest hardware.. hence maybe thats why even LG got ahead in line before Sony!?:confused:

If I would get a Sony phone for free I would take it but never pay a single cent to Sony after my debacle with XperiaS. Why buy Sony when Nexus 4 is cheaper and better (Hardware and Software) than upcoming Sony devices. Only department Sony would prevail would be UI and their theme´s etc.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] corsav6:
And lets face it, if you really wanted Sony UI and themes on Nexus 4 its not a difficult task to get them.

I, like many others will be selling my Sony for a Nexus 4. Its not because its light years ahead of the sony, its the pricing I find enticing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PLovrin:
Yes, I would definitely buy Sony again. Why? Great design and build, great display, great camera and of course deticated camera button with fast capture. I just hate phones without camera button no matter how good they are. So what if we will get jelly bean in 2013? If they will rewrite code for faster updates I can wait. Maybe we will get 4.2 faster than other phones...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Toon10:
Maybe...

Send from my xperia p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] darth5zaft:
Why hate LG?, they make retina displays and The camera on nexus 4 is from sony!.

And LG makes good hardware, the chocolate, prada are nice looking phone, the part that they suck are software (ui,update and all). But since this is a nexus surely LG can't screw it up.

And since it a nexus. I would imagine getting Sony's app won't be that difficult.

But I agreed storage is a problem qnd the net is not cheap. I wonders if I could use the savings from nexus4 to buy something that can solve the storage problems. Something like wireless storage maybe,
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] arc_u:
Probably yes if the hardware is correct , but I will wait to see if it doesn't have some issue, like tint or other.... This yellow **** and that outdated hardware (even when it has been released) make that I'm planning now to sell this for 300€, and go for nexus 4, but this **** doesn't have sd card support, and what a shame
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dante2086:
The sensor is Sony. And maybe the lens module. Everything else in the camera is LGs to mess up. I have used LG products in the past. I can't even trust them with a toaster. Though I figure Samsungs awesomeness will make them improve. They have lovely displays though, can't argue with that.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dhilluk:
I got my Xperia S free on a 2 year contract in May 2012 and I can confidently say that I will never have a Sony handset again.

I don't think Sony has it's priorities right (but what phone manufacturer has!!!), I definitely don't accept the transition from Sony Ericsson excuse for why they brought out so many phones this year.

Biggest disappointments: Camera and response time ( even on CM9.1 )

I miss my HTC Desire sooooo much!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] justkiddinghere:
I won't buy sony :P

Will buy a nexus only
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
I hope that the successor of the xperia p is part of the nexus program.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Rapier07:
Non android sony phones were awesome. Undisputed leaders. Even with andriod they are. But outdated hw and sw and lagging behind ruined it. No Sony again

Tapatalked !
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Neurom707:
I love my XU its super fast with cm9 from FXP

But i loved my HTC one X More but sadly it broke so got one of these because it was cheap and i think its amazing :D
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] skip0pot2mus:
I only bought the Xperia S because it looked the better of the two [Galaxy sIII] at the time, it's on a 24 month contract, and at the end, I'll sell the phone and get something else, I'm not a fan of Sony, nor do I dislike them. It's unlikely to be another Sony, as my experience with their support team has been dismal. Just take a look at the official sony support forum. Bugs reported by users months ago, and then when someone else makes a new thread with the same bug, Sony Support reply with "Ohh! Not heard of this bug before, lets investigate"

Then they never come back! :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ajamir786:
Coz it's not apple that's y
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] PrimeDeluxe:
At the moment definitely no.

Why?

The 3rd device with yellow tint.

Laggy software (contacts etc)

Missing features

Quality of the device is horrible.

The temperature is to high

Gesendet von meinem Xperia S mit Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] 84737:
My opinion is the same. And my answer is: Maybe.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lokenok:
Maybe... the V but right now the Nexus 4 is good
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] linsbr:
Voted on maybe...

I guess my last 5 cell phones where from Sony, and I really apreciate the design and the UI features of the NXT series, had a U and recentry sold it and got a P

Hardware wise they are good, but flawed, expecially P (someone said unexplainably tiny battery??)... but i have no complaints of overall performance and specs.. they not the most powerfull available but make great use of their horsepower.

The slow updates are a letdown.. fellow forum user and Sony insider K900 says they are changing the way they do it, hope they can pull this one!

What is making me think twice about a new sony in the future is the nexus, since storage limit isn't a big deal for me..

Maybe if the Sony Nexus is a real project... who knows?:fingers-crossed:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Sirence:
Maybe. I need a phone that is good-looking but at a reasonable prices. Hardware, screen size etc aren't important to me but a high resolution is. So far I hardly have seen any none-Sony device that isn't extremely ugly.

Had the ray before and now the s. Before that iPhones but they were ugly as hell.

Gesendet von meinem LT26i
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] richteralan:
Only if the new.phone has the design quality of the NXT line, and a Nexus.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Toon10:
Quality is good but the support bad

Send from my xperia p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cqloveqc:
Never

I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Xperia U, Xperia U is so terrible, and GPS never working.

If only there is Xperia Nexus
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Geeve:
Well, although I might consider myself a Sony phone customer (4th SE or Sony phone is the Xperia S), I'm starting to reconsider if I'll further buy a Sony smartphone.

That LG Nexus 4 looks so yummy, I would have a bite in the future (if Sony Nexus releases it would be a better phone, but far more expensive).

Best answer of how I feel about this matter:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
The j butterfly is the front runner for my money. If Sony start next year with 4.2, I'll give them a look in. If not, they can go to hell
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] technaudio:
Yes, without a second thought. I think the s is an awesome phone. I don't care wether I'm on the latest cutting edge software!

It did make me laugh that literally the day Sony released ics everyone started whingeing about when will we get jb...

I bought mine because of how it looks.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nemer12:
IF I WOULD buy a sony ?? NO..just sold mine 3 mins ago..htc one x here i come.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Loris93:
Well,i'm considering selling my XS for the Nexus 4,but i would reccomend sony to everyone,XS is amazing.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] AwesomeTurtle:
In the not-so-immediate future, maybe. For now, I'm selling my Xperia P to cushion the blow from a Nexus 4 preorder I just placed.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mrsatan:
I would consider the Nexus 4 if it were 32gb, 16 is too small for me. Also I am not a fan of LG and the glass back on the Nexus 4 is stupid.

Id have to say that one thing that irks me about the Nexus line is how all the rom developers tend to get them leaving much less for other devices. Really you dont need 200 roms for one device. This is one of the reasons why I wish Google would go through with their program to have manufacturs make certain devices for easy updates.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] neoxx3m:
The only reason for leaving Sony will be Nokia's Android device. Till that Sony rulz! :)

And for all those guys who have only bad words about Sony I can only say shame on You, buy something else and get the f*** outta here because this is Xperia corner!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] amarjit_rsingh:
Nokia with android seems impossible :)

(Sent from Sony Xperia GO using XDA Premium)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Growly_:
Of course! Rumours around here that they have quad core are very exciting

ICS and JB is on the N9 :P
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] neoxx3m:
Probably impossible but ygtp! :)
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] naaney:
After my xperia s gives up i'll be going with the newest Google device( i want fast updates ;)) but fot now my xs rocks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] For_itembine:
Absolutely. I love there UI. Its like a better version of stock android IMO

I also love there design.

I do concede the HTC one x and s3 have overall better displays, there is something about the screen, it has a unique look unlike other phone displays
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] augie7107:
Sony since K790 and sticking with them.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Loris93:
Same for me,i'll wait until it exit and then i'll decide.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Kiefels:
Yes i would buy another Sony...

So long as the cameras continue to be awesome, i can text, make and recieve calls, check my email, access internet and maybe a little fb now and then.

Hold on a minute...

Thats what nearly ALL smart phones do!!! Doh!!!

I had an X10 and we screamed for 2.1 because 1.6 sucked. We got it.

Then we screamed for GB and we got it.

I got the XPS and we screamed for ICS and we got it but all of this detracts from the point that Sony makes good phones.

Doesn't matter if you have 1.6 or 8.4, your phone still does phone stuff. Everything else is a bonus.

We are all here on XDA to get the most out of our handsets ( I get that) but just because Joe Bloggs has JB on his L crappo G doesn't make his handset better than mine.

All the posts on Sony not caring about updates and others do...

Pffffft!!!

If you let sub-standard versions out and are constantly nagged about phones crashing and bugs you would want to move the next one out quickly too.

Also, if your hardware isn't top notch you need some other selling point.

Quad core phones and super quick dual-cores???

Eye catchers and gimmicks to make you part with your hard earned cash.

I have a quad core PC and my cpu meter never goes over 48%. So what you going to do on a phone that warrants a quad core?

Every day punters on the street don't care whats inside, all they want is what all their mates have and it looks pretty.

I have moderated forums for different handset manufacturers and have tried many myself and my personal choice having test driven many is Sony.

Yes the screens are inferior to Samsung, yes the processor is slower than most and yes more ram could be useful but until someone can come up to me with a phone that looks as good, feels good, works good and sports a good functional camera then i am sitting on Sony. ( don't give me the Iphone flim flam either, ios is not for me)

All the flamers and haterz can take a long walk off a short pier.

You don't have to keep your Sony and you cartainly don't need to come on here and ***** about it.

I don't recall this being called the Xperia S, U, P, Sola etc flaming forum!!!!

And to try to appease other nay sayers...

Remember this is phone first and foremost and people here seem to be losing this very simple FACT.

Rant over...

Now i definitely see K900's point

Apologies for agreeing with someone on, my bad!!! :-/
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] AwesomeTurtle:
Quite uncalled for, if I do say so myself.

NITDroid is hardly official firmware.

o ok.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] neoxx3m:
Sorry, but I didn't get the point.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] lee480:
Haters are going to be haters....

Anyways, Sony sold 8.8 million phones this quarter, beating LG and HTC. This shows Sony slow rise unlike the quality posts which is deteriorating rapidly.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] leechgod27:
Obviously yes!

Using sony from the times of k508i.From that time sony had features like

1.select/copy/cut/paste whenever there is text

2.Long press volume up/down to change track

3.Using volume to scroll up/down in texts

4.Camera zoom with volume/joystick

5.Goto options over a mp3 file to directly set as ringtone/contact ring/alarm

6.Physical camera button

7.Camera flash light with torch option

8.infrared share

9.custom msg tones

These should have been be actually patented by them.But the are no Apple guys...I used quite i bit of other phones at that time and these handy user-friendly feature were not found on nokias or motos(worst user friendly than).

I had x10 and than bought an xperia S.Its screen blew my mind.Had to give it to my sister so i was forced to buy rezound(coz my eyes couldnt tolerate anything beyond 340ppi)

And now i am getting mad with this htc phone.

Want ion or T as soon as possible!

Sony phones are a total package of Design,Cam quality,audio,screen resolution,battery life,user friendly ness etc.

Yup...they suck at updates but unlikely htc/moto they provide solid(tried and tested) updates that dont crash or damage hardware.(Remember htc one V/x unreliable fast updates?).Xda is always there to pump steroids in our oudated softwares.

Today is the release date of xperia t and also skyfall here in india and i am posting this!Feels awesome:D

Thanks Sony and Xda.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Thank Haruhi they're not. Patenting all that stuff would have been horrible for the ecosystem in general. We have enough nonsensical UI paradigm patents as it stands.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] gtargui:
I would if they stepped up their game on updating their devices. I'm still on Gingerbread, even when older devices are on ICS
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
That's cos they released 8.8 million different models lol
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
I'm going to repost this.

Let's keep this a Discussion.

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] K900:
Wow. Just wow. My mind is blown right now. Seriously. Wow.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Toon10:
guy's please!
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] dante2086:
Wow, that was harsh.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] :
Thread cleaned post deleted and I can't believe someone would make a comment like that directly under my post regarding flamming.

ONE MORE REMARK LIKE THAT AND THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED!

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[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hoschi-air:
Depends

Sony: yes

Sony-Ericcson: no
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Toon10:
Can't you just ban them, why closing thread?

Send from my xperia p
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] visser:
Sony again, not likely... my Sola will be used only for sports training once I lock down my next phone; similar size/weight, better battery life, ANT+ and Bluetooth 4.0 low. X1 -> Sola -> ...
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] exist2inspire:
i dont change usually technology until i have to, so il be sticking with my xperia u for some time hopefully. n generally i am a big sony ericsson fan, their user interfaces hav always rocked, been quick n made sense to me.

however nexus 5 is in my vison. the nexus 4 is so good n relatively cheap, so maybe in 2 yrs il be on the lookout for a nexus 5 mini. i want fast android updates, but not a big phone! if sony releases it, i dont mind sticking to them.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Scr@tchy:
No

i will never buy a sony. Design is good, but softwaresupport is bad.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
Software support is not bad. At least you get updates. Okay, not fast but well tested. That's more than you get from many other manufacturers.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] darth5zaft:
Well, at least u get update.

Unless u are planning to buy a flagship from other companies. Lets just see if they ever bothered to upgrade yours..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] jvsykes:
For me I don't think so .after Sony abandoned us and not giving any kind of support for the Bravia Engine issue on ICS for everyone who had Unlocked their bootloader....hmm let's say unless JB update hopefully fixes this issue ....I really hope so
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] wssherbiny:
Of course I will not repeat this fault again.... Because their support is very weak compared to Samsung
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Creqaw:
I say yes. I like Sony's designs and I consider design to be important.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] MrBelter:
You obviously haven't used a UK SIM free Xperia S :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] huzi7868:
Never ever buy one they dont care what we think or what problems we have all they care is about money i hope they loose alot of money i after this phone for me its samsung all the way
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] quadlt:
Wow, I bet you haven't even use a single Sony phone yet, and still you're coming here just so show what a Samsung fanboy you are. Yes, samsung has some good phones too, but they make hell a lot of same ones, and their phone's looking barely changes (S3 was something different finally), look at Sony, the design is almost everywhere different and can fit anyone's needs. Don't forget that Samsung is more advanced in mobile phone industry now, while Sony is still getting up. I am happy with my S, and I wouldn't want to change it to anything at the moment, wait until we get official JB, which will be amazing, even now CM and AOKP are kicking as*. Please stay in your samsung's forums if you haven't used Sony daily yet.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] josie87:
Germany xperia p. But I use flashtool for upgrades.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] zodiac100:
Look mate, why clean my response to someone who asked all those who have anything negative to say about Sony should and I quote "get the **** outta here".

Why not remove that comment too or does that stick to your rules?

Give as good as you get, that's my simple philosophy. If anyone's makes that sort of remark then they should be prepared to face the consequences.

Flame wars as you call them ( lively debate to me) are usually started by the fanboys. I've never seen anyone attacking others for praising Sony but as soon as someone says something negative, you can bet your bottom dollar that he's bound to get insulted by a fanboy. To the ignorance of the moderators ( fanboys themselves) I might add.

People who want to criticise should have the right to. Disagree if you want but stop closing their threads and deleting their comments. Reflects poorly on you kiddo.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] huzi7868:
ive had more sony phones then you put it this way so i know what im saying
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] mikbe:
If Sony made a Nexus phone, yes. I like the design and the exclusivity but overall software support is bad.

Take Xperia S for example. It's getting JB sometimes but CM/AOKP/PA are almost complete. All it takes is little effort from Sony to make dozens of flashmaniacs happy. Maybe too much to ask..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] EmeraldTimer:
If Sony makes a "Sony Nexus" yes, mabye, it depens :fingers-crossed:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] BoSib:
I don´t care about what phone I have actually, I just want a functional easy to mess around with one so.. It doesn´t matter, it´s just a phone! :cowboy: