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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] omarh3:
no need to be snobby, ive bricked one in my entire life and recovered it thru linux, when it comes to rooting, flashing roms\kernals, and phone software specs and hardware just to add im great, just didnt know how to fix this problem. this is my first htc phone and i love it. Ive always had samsungs before and i simply was asking for help. this isnt my first go round with development at all, i actually do it for a living, so if you can help me thank you but im not here to be riddiculed and treated like some noob that just doesnt understand the value of these phones. Android is my passion, and this circumstance happens to be one that i have never dealt with before. I thought thats what this community is for, like minded people with the same passion helping and learning from one another.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] DvineLord:
if your using the same phone you flashed a international rom i would run the ruu again which might fix some things the original fix didn't. then reunlock and flash twrp.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Crappyvate:
What you don't understand is the value of READING....until then I guess you'll be stuck with "du du" sound Mr.Developer sir. :p

Let's post the same silly question not 2 but 3 times after being told to please not do it, and you don't to be want ridiculed !!! I rest my case:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33448166#post33448166

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1963212

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1963263
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malliktajmahal:
can somebody tell me why the #nexus4 is that much cheap ($350 ). to recall, the #galaxys3 cost is #700+. do you think #nexus4 is better than #S3 in all aspects?

dont tell me that wait for reviews...it will be fun to discuss before release...:).

what I am thinking is the samsung hardware better than lg.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johno86:
From what I've read from different articles it's supposed to be a budget smartphone thus the price tag. Who knows what the real reason might be.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcustaz:
I'd say they did it to further compete against apple and their rip off prices. Really that is how I see it. Discuss :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxirane:
The Galaxy Nexus has been just as cheap, and the Nexus 7 is also much cheaper than most other comparable tablets.

Google makes most of their money off advertising. They want more people using their product, they're not looking to make all their money via device sales.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] airkenada:
Cuz it made my lg. U can't really trust lg for make good high end smartphone
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyokeun1234:
Samsung gets money off their devices, Google gets money off their advertise and Google play services. This is also a reason why Nexus 7 was so cheap

Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ppog:
I think google don't try to make much money from the hardware, but the nexus 7 and nexus 4 at those prices serve to get people into the google ecosystem, which is where the money is for them; advertising, collecting data, etc
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
It's an Android reference device. The point is to get stock Android out on modern hardware for development and hobbyist users. The low price is probably to increase the adoption rate amongst devs. If they get the price low enough (this is probably the sweet spot) it's worth buying even if it's not their daily use phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbaaccoonn:
Google is reinventing the smart phone market. They price their products at an extremely affordable price. With it being brand new, completely awesome and it destroys the iphone. Who wouldn't buy?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxehkins:
Seriously what's with all the LG hate? Have you used the Optimus G? It is amazing and if the Nexus 4 is anything like it I will be VERY happy.

As for why the Nexus 4 is so cheap, Google is trying to create a brand, and what's the best way to build a loyal fan base then to offer an amazing device for an amazing price. They want to reach out to as many people as possible which is why they offer an 8GB model of the phone. Someone will buy one, show it off to their friend and then THEY will want one. It's a great strategy and I can see it working for them in the long run.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris.wueste:
If you build it they will come...

I love this phone already and don't even have it in my hands yet. Google=Genius for putting this monster piece of tech out on the market at such an affordable price point. They are essentially subsidizing the price so that they can build their ecosystem. Mad props to Google on making what looks to the be the best phone on the market and mad props to LG for the hardware. After my G2X, I told myself I'd never go LG again, but with Google handling the OS, it is safe to assume it will be nothing but buttery goodness.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mbroeders:
That's just not true. Read some of the previous posts, as Oxirane wrote "Google makes most of their money off advertising. They want more people using their product, they're not looking to make all their money via device sales.". The price has got nothing to do with the popularity of the manufacturer...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] airkenada:
Samsung galaxy nexus was 700 went it 1st come out. Nexus 4 starting price is no where near that. There r both Google.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] earlyberd:
The price you're paying for the Nexus 4 off of the Play store is Google selling the device at cost. Real world retail price would be much closer to the $599 that T-Mobile is charging for it when you factor in their subsidizing after the $199 up front.

They didn't skimp on features or hardware, this is just so they get as many people as possible on Android devices to spread out the advertising and get more people excited for development.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
Please no one keep responding to this guy he is almost worst then a Isheep I don't like LG but I still might buy this its a quality device
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alzoids:
"The guy" do you mean yourself? And he is saying not to reply to you because you're obviously not reading what people are saying to answer your question.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FatalityBoyZahy:
Thank you! I'm coming from a LG G2x! That's probably one of the worst devices ever created, but I'm still gonna be one of the first ones to get this Nexus! It's amazing.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
That $700 price you're referring to wasn't Google's. It was the price charged by retailers for an imported device. It was a lot cheaper when released in the US in the Play store.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KentuckyHouse:
Ironic that you ask if someone can read English or not. Let me see if I can help you...

"I dont know if YOU can read English or not, but the guy asked WHY the Nexus 4 is dead cheap. He didnt ask if PEOPLE were going to buy it or not. Get your facts straight YOU meele (<-- I have no idea what this means) mouth bastard. I don't like LG that much, but I'm still considering it. I MIGHT be AN iSheep or whatever...but YOU'RE a product of Lady Gaga banging extra hard with an Oompa Loompa."

Capitalized words represent actual English.

u doesn't equal you

y doesn't equal why

ppl doesn't equal people

By the way, I'm reporting your post for a personal attack. Have a nice day, sir.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WolfSpider95:
I'm thinking that it's not low, but the other prices are just very high.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ste1164:
No I'd say the prices of the other phones are fair. This is cheap because it sounds like a device to sell googles ecosystem. Like the nexus 7 and kindle fire HD for amazon. I cant imagine they are too bothered by the device sales, more about what it brings to google play etc.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rob.power:
grunnex S35

+1
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KonstantinKeller:
I think the real question here is why are you using hashtags on XDA...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwahchees:
That seems like that could be the reason, which is great. I love what they do :P
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcls:
Wondering the same thing myself.

Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intern:
Has anyone here used the Optimus G? Is the build quality solid? How does it feel?

I'm a little bit worried about device failures down the line, I'm sure it's well made, but LG do have a bit of a reputation as being Samsung wannabes.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidXed:
They make the prices of branded phones high so u sign a contract to get it at a lower price...

Google isn't worried about contracts, there making the difference from the play store...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnism89:
price

i think it's the best price for that perfomance :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Troll:
lg sucks with software, agreed

but not with device quality
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christophicer:
My nitro hd had outstanding build quality, software sucked balls but hardware wise I was impressed
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ynrozturk:
Because Google doesn't need the money. They really, really don't.

So provide a killer phone for an awesome price and make no profit from it - no big deal. It's Google. They're doing it to wipe out Apple. While maybe "wiping out" isn't the correct term, it will still make a LOT of people say "Hmm, there's this Nexus phone for half the price with equal and better specs than this iPhone"
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CompletelyNumb:
^ That's how I see it too. Sell it at cost so you don't lose money, and at the same time drive a competitor out of the market and gain a larger user base for android
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taodan:
If Google wants to take out Apple, two things that I think of, 1) simplicity UI, and 2) phone's form factor. If you check out the phones that are on display at the electronic retail stores, most of newer Android phones are bigger than iPhone and many people don't like big phones. As of the UI, Google should have a preset icons option so users don't have to create for themselves.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Harry Pothead:
In Austria it is not sold by Google but by LG. LG Austria wants 550€ for the 16GB version. They claim that it is due to distribution/storage, logistics, labor costs and so on caused by the "offline" sale in stores. Google is probably selling +- at cost and they don't have the aforementioned costs.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gideonMorrison:
Does that also imply that within countries who don't have a Playstore where they can purchase the Nex4 they are basically screwed because of LG? Then Europe must be

screwed.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Harry Pothead:
No, Europe isn't screwed. In the UK, France, Germany and Spain you get it via the Play store. And as you don't have to pay custom fees for imports from another EU country, you just need to accept higher/longer delivery rates/time. You could also just wait a few weeks, then cross the border and go to an electronics store (you can get the Nexus 7 at Media Markt by now, for instance). They won't sell it below the recommended retail price for their country.

edit: I am glad though that I live in one of those aforementioned countries :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweaked:
Google will make the money , if any, back that they loose in software sales and adverts. Apps. Everyone buys apps.

Much like consoles. Lose a little on the console, make it big in software.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gideonMorrison:
Ugh, lucky you. I guess I am screwed, since I live in the Netherlands. No Playstore here. Hopefully the online shops will sell against Playstore prices, or less :p Sucks I can't order from European Playstores btw, so much for European 'shop integration'.

I first need to sell my Gnex, hopefully for around E250 :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -A-P-M-:
Today I read that Nexus 4 will cost 550 eur in Austria. Looks like price will be quite a lot higher in countries where N4 isnt avalible in play store..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Harry Pothead:
Didn't know that. Sucks... But as soon as the other german/uk/french online stores sell it you can still order it online for the same price. Or if you live close enough to the German/French border you can make a little road trip. Hopefully just a few weeks delay... And you need to sell your current device first anyway :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] genexxer:
this sounded so right on until I recalled that google play store ad says carriers are to sell it for $200 with a 2 yr contract, which contradicts the indictment that carriers inflate the price to bait us into contracts to pay less.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gideonMorrison:
Yeah, I guess you're right. It'll be fine in the end. I have to sell it before the new price collapses, otherwise I can't get a dime for my Gnex ;) I reckon it's wise to wait for The Verge to come out with their review of the Nex4, let alone all the other pro's.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ynrozturk:
Android isn't exactly rocket science. Give it to any person familiar with touchscreens and they'll be able to use the camera, play music, make calls - which is what 98% of users do. Most people don't root or any of that stuff. Hell, I'm perfectly happy with my fully stock N7.

Android phones also come in all sizes, the Nexus 4 would simply be a great introduction to a lot of people because of the statement it will make - I'm fully decked out and inexpensive. I don't think people will care that the screen is a bit bigger than their iPhone's. I know for a fact that a lot of people wanted bigger screens on their iPhone's and were upset when they only made it a bit longer.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dknotty:
The Nexus 4 is cheap because Google are going for market share. Specifically they are trying to take market share off Apple. Once they've made a significant dent, I'd expect them to add a margin onto the devices.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jphantom:
google isn't so much grabbing market share or hurting apple directly as trying to get people to experience stock android and reasonably timely updates. this is against the hardware manufacturers who make all the custom stuff for their phones that never get updated. Google is trying to do the things first mentioned by improving the android experience across the entire market. manufacturers and carriers are trying to get people to buy new phones and lock themselves into contracts to get new android features which leads to market fragmentation and major headaches for google and developers. this is google pushing to end that
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaptWildBillKelso:
Totally agree with this, to a point however. From Google's standpoint if a user has an Android device in their hand, their job is about 80 percent done, with the remainder being software updates to keep the users entertained with new stuff.

The N4 is pretty nice, but I'm not so sure about how it's build toughness stands up to other phones (this is my first Android phone). So far it's been pretty fragile. Maybe it's less expensive because a few corners have been cut with build materials?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nigeldg:
The glass back is prone to cracking and scratching but then again since you knew it had a glass back before buying it that shouldn't really have come as much of a surprise. I'm happy to sacrifice the durability for a nice feel in hand tbh.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alex240188:
Google makes it's main money through advertising. So they can afford to sell the n4 at cost. Which means more android phones to add adverts on.

Whereas the other manufacturers don't have that luxury. So they have to add a premium.

Not that I condone charging 2x as much
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaptWildBillKelso:
Before I bought my N4 I *did* read about people accidentally cracking the back and I though "really? They must be KLUTZ's!". Little did I know that putting mine down on a table that had a little moisture on it would cause it to glide right off the edge and take a power dive. The crack turned into a complete shatter. As in zillions of little bits of glass! Anyway, not the phones fault... all mine.

Besides, why invest a ton of bucks in hardware anyway. New stuff comes out so quickly now whatever you buy is obsolete the same day pretty much.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nigeldg:
I've heard loads of stories about this and I don't doubt that it's happened to you but for some reason mine doesn't seem to slide on the table. I use a pouch case when I carry it now though, because I was afraid that it would happen at some point.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gd6noob:
Because Google doesn't need to make millions off devices... They make their millions on the Play Store...

Nexus 4 Rooted

Running Paranoid Android
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pak-stars:
because it costs around $85 to make a single unit
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tunderpimp:
I think your in the ballpark, the phones are made overseas, LG makes theirs in India. Look at other electronics like pc it's so much cheaper to do it yourself. I was shocked when I found out my dad gets his products for 30 bucks a unit and sells them for 150 a unit
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scream4cheese:
The Nexus 4 is coming from S.Korea...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tunderpimp:
Wow an even cheaper manufacturer
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jutezak:
I think the margins are a bit thinner. Google probably guarantees a number of devices sold. The engineering is off the Optimus G, but a little specced down, so LG does not feel the competition and will deliver cheap.

The downspeccing (camera module, camera software, no LTE license, no SD slot, thus no Microsoft FAT license, a bit cheaper speaker, no capacitive buttons, etc) will also add up to some cost reduction.

Thd the play sore is an efficient distribution channel. No wholesale, distributor, retailer, salesman, mobile network kickback fee, carrier interfering with features.

In the netherlands, the S3 and the N4 are about the same price in retail.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scream4cheese:
I guess. LG is a South Korea brand. Lol.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acid74:
In Norway it is not avaliable on play store,it's price tag is equal to s3
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
That's because it's not sold subsidized by Google. So it's the same price as a s3.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] realtalker:
Just like Microsoft loses money by selling their Xbox 360's for $200, Google does the same. However, Xbox regains the money with Xbox live and other services, just like Google does the same with their services.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willy1980:
Might be from cheap screens dropped mine less than a foot and its cracked and digitiser is broken
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nedooo:
No waaay, can you try to hit a wall with a car and report what happened...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N10AP:
The Nexus 4 is a premium device. Google don`t actually make anything by selling it. They get money from Google Play by selling apps and services and (adverts?)

So, no, it isn`t built out of scrap or old parts / junk and anyone who thinks this is just erm, stupid.

If Google wasn`t going to rely on you using their services and paying in other ways, make no mistake, the device would retail at £450 - £500.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I Am Marino:
I'm spoiled by the price, I could never buy a normal unlocked phone now for $500+.

-Sent from Marino's Nexus 4-
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pak-stars:
hopefully the white one will be the same price
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
Well if it isn't in any kind of case and you drop it on a hard surface (solid glass, concrete, metal, etc.), I'm pretty sure most phones these days would break under those conditions :rolleyes:

Is there any price breakdown about how much exactly every component (WiFi chip, USB port, battery latch, everything) of the Nexus 4 goes for if it comes straight from manufacturer?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badboy47:
Lol and you trust who? Samsung? Lolol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bobprobert:
still no college football cards. bummer.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jeffgus:
I can't even install the update on my S3 running JB (LJ7). Gives me a certificate mismatch error.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] VikingoRMCF:
I'd like to see some La Liga cards or EPL
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Iphony89:
Epl cards been there for a while now, not sure about La liga
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] VikingoRMCF:
Damn, wonder why I never noticed them. Thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Joe Trojan:
Yep still waiting myself.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] .Bambino:
I used to have the cloud in my status bar but now I never see it there.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] budde2:
I haven't seen one card since the update
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] n8te_1:
I'm in the same boat. I even attempted deleting it in TB and tried to re-install it through the market, but after removing google search the market wouldn't load...it was odd...so had to re-flash the ROM.

still trying to figure out a way to update it...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
Love how it did this

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
Or this

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] EggosEvo:
Ever since I updated in the market it won't let me get into the settings for Google Now. I tap it but it won't go to the settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drifto2k:
The return policy for play store is 14 days , I already had it for 26 days. Is google lenient on returns when new product is released?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Deleted member 4151041:
14 is 14. I highly doubt they will let u return it. :beer:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
Doubt it plus everyone knew it was coming around this time
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
You can try, but if its more than 14 they're under no obligation to help you out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Hey don't push it.

Beamed from my Grouper.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WhatTheAndroid?:
Question on rooting.(Not bricked lol),so about a week ago I got into bootloop because I flashed boot.img when I took it out of the Rom file. I want to know if bootloop is normal when you flash the image file before rezipping the Rom and installing the Rom via teamwin recovery. I'm unrooted and boot is locked so I don't need any help with that. so I just wanted to know if I followed the right process. I have read many threads and never seen anything about bootloop being a normal process when flashing boot.IMG before getting into recovery and installing a ROM. Thanks in advance for anyone providing me an explanation.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TheEmpyre:
I know it happened for me -- Sometimes it wont enter recovery for me even in the bootloader and I have to Power+Vol Down to get it back into the bootloader. But it makes sense this would be a normal process because if you flash the boot.img without any OS files to load after it will just boot-loop.

Once I get back into bootloader and can get back into recovery and flash the ROM everything goes well after -- although I'm not sure if you would classify this as the "norm" but it certainly happens for me
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ImagioX1:
I didn't have a bootloop. Mine just sat on the first htc bootscreen and did nothing. I had to do a simlated battery pull to get it to shut off. Generally I flash the rom in recovery then reboot to fastboot and flash the boot.img. This way you don't have to worry about the bootloop or simulated battery pull.