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[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
They start up quicker with enough free ram as well. I like having it free to use how i please. I don't like having apps i don't use loaded up.

Either way, I've come across an experiment. The zz-performance is amazing but spends most of the time running 800mhz during heavy use because of the heat. I've decided to under volt to decrease the heat.

What do you think, Andi?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
If it works for you, it is fully ok.

I am personally on zzmoove battery yank profile, and without any more tweaks I am really happy with it.

Never experienced thermal throttling coming into play with my phone.

Maybe you are using a protection cover that shields the phone and causes the heat to not go out?

But - if it works for you and reduces the heat while still being stable - fairly good :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
I'm using the rubber TPU case that comes with the 7000mAh battery. Thermal throttling comes in when I'm doing heavy multitasking like the Facebook messenger while using Whatsapp and browsing.

I'll keep using it and testing it out. Currently on -50mv.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
The Android system is not free ram, ram unused memory is bad

This not follow, the key is continuity and stability of the system

I use Zzmoove gov.a all beautifully stable ...

Battery, most applications use system / GOOGLE / a is better if you do not remove it.

---------- Post added at 06:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------

is better debload / remove system applications / you do not!!
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
Under volting is in no way effective. It did not save battery or reduce heat. Makes me wonder why is it even an option.

Oh well. Still experimenting with more settings
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
for me, it is not at all important undervlolting, I have only a 25mV enough.

I try to be Boeffla standard config, just zzmoove governoll
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I do not recommend undervolting at all, you should know that :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
Yeah, I do. Now I know for sure it doesn't do anything.

This is hard. I'm trying to find a mix of pure performance and less heat. Really running out of ideas here.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] bornlivedie:
Another device is the answer.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
Another device? They're all the same regarding thermal statuses.

Though in CM, the phone is always fast no matter what. I don't think it has the proper thermal throttling enabled. All 4 cores stay active at max speed. The other day my phone was 133F and all cores were still running at 1.6Ghz. Felt like it was about to blow. But still amazing speed nonetheless.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] nelsonw:
You can always move to Antartica or play inside a freezer. LOL

But, for me, in 4.3 this is the cooler and coolest kernel. I have a lot of Heat on Temasek CM11 also.

This is the best kernel around.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
some suggestions for you:

- decrease touch boost to 500-800

- increase the ENTROPY!!! some CM roms integrate crossbreeder in order to generate maximum entropy available (4096) so that's why they are kinda smooth. Also because they dont use touchwiz

you can use android tuner free to increase entropy by using its presets (use very large) -> this a passive method so it will be more battery friendly than the active method of crossbreeder, of course because it is passive so it responds slower than the active one. For the free version, the preset wont stick so u will have to change this every boot. The pro version can do this

- reduce GPU clock speed. Dont increase it too much. The default samsung values are smooth enough. I use 166/266

- 1.6ghz is a bit high so it will make the phone overheat. 1.4ghz and lower may keep it cool. I used to use HTC sensation before the s3. If I set CPU >= 1ghz => phone will be very hot but if it is <1ghz, never ever got hot. S3 has better chip of course so u can set it to 1.4 to try

- Increase LMK values and never let RAM <100mb so u wont need higher cpu clock to make it smooth. If ram <100mb, snapdragon 800 would experience lag also

- If u use zRam, make sure that it is not fully used. Keep it ~1/2 of the actual value (200mb over 400mb). If it increases too much (~200mb), turn off zram and turn it on again to refresh it. Swappiness should be low ~50-60 is ok for me. Lower is better. If it's too high, zram will be used a lot

- Trim your partitions every 2 days, maybe once a week is ok (using boeffla app)

- reboot ur phone after some days of using it (hot reboot is ok)

- wipe cache and dalvik cache after a very long period, every 1 or 2 weeks

- when u feel a bit laggy -> first clean up your ram using samsung task manager and then type this into android tuner:

su
sync; sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3

==> this will drop the caches in ram (not empty cache folder in the system) so it will be smoother. However, dont do this too frequently, 3 to 4 times a day is ok, once a day is also ok. I only do this when Im bored cuz almost everything is under my control :)

my settings:

- CPU: 1.2ghz - zzmoove - yank battery extreme

- touchboost = 500

- gpu: 166/266

- LMK: I posted a pic 1 or 2 pages back

- zram = 0

=> still smooth enough for me :)
[Galaxy S III Android Development] cart00nero:
Good tips [MENTION=4301380]axetilen[/MENTION] but I don't do anything of it and my cellphone works like a charm. I guess every one has his own points of view, and for one is smooth and for other maybe not to much. Paz for everyone.

Desde mi GT-I9300@Boeffla™
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Mickyman:
Wrong thread. Apologies.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
yes, I dont do that much but my phone is still working well :)

those are just some suggestions to make the phone smooth without using aggressive settings :D

s3 is a flagship so it is supposed to work well in most of the cases. Those tips are extremely useful for older phones. I used HTC phone so u can imagine how slow and annoying it is. I had to search and do a lot of things to make it smooth and good battery. Battery life of old HTC phones are extremely ****

smooth even at relatively low settings. of course battery life is much better
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
[MENTION=4301380]axetilen[/MENTION]

Thanks for your suggestions. But after I used Android Tuner every time I restart I now get the boot message "Android is upgrading". Any idea if Android Tuner caused this? I already uninstalled it but the message is there.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
there are 2 possible causes:

1/ dalvik cache is wiped, this will take a long time for the system to optimize app from 1 -> 1 or 200 300 apps -> this is annoying

2/ ur rom has a script in init.d folder to zipalign apks on everyboot -> u can find this script and delete it. Open all the script the see if it has something related to "zipalign".

- This is not a bad thing, u can keep this because it will make sure apps are zipalign-ed and comsume less memory

- usually this will only optimize some NEW APPS, 1 or 2 apps or maybe more, so it is not annoying, it just takes some seconds

most apps are zipalign-ed by their developers so it is not really necessary. but there are some apps which are not zipalign-ed => they may cause memory leak and consume a lot a lot of ram

Android tuner maybe a cause of the 2nd one. u can disable it by uncheck app optimizations in android tuner 1-click menu

the 1st one, might be due to a script. find something related to dalvik and delete that script. android tuner doesnt cause this unless u choose to do this
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Hmm... I think I "accidentally" clicked apply on init.d on the entropy settings page. Maybe that caused this changed? I'm not really familiar with init scripts. I found around 7 files on system root named with init but after searching through I don't find any "zipalign" related ones. Anyway will pm you now as our discussion is quite OT :D
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
entropy tab will create only the script related to entropy so dont worry

u can post all the script here so I can have a look

the folder is: /system/etc/init.d -> check this folder, if u dont have this folder => no script
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Please check your pm.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] janres155:
Hi [MENTION=4301380]axetilen[/MENTION]

For the entropy, is Seeder advisable alternative than Android Tuner? And is it possible to make a script for the sysctl part?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
But the thermal throttling is a hardware feature of the Exynos SOC, so it is the same under CM. Maybe it does not get hot there, I never run into this thermal throttling thing. But... yes, I never do gaming :)

This is bad. I had that also once about a year ago. The only way I got rid of it was doing a full wipe.

So - good luck. If you find a way to get rid of it, let me know please :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
seeder is quite similar to crossbreeder and it uses active method => may drain more battery than usual

if u dont wanna use seeder, crossbreeder or android tuner, u can put this script into /system/etc/init.d

[URL="https://www.dropbox.com/s/eerh5yczgte5xw2/99_at_entropy"]https://www.dropbox.com/s/eerh5yczgte5xw2/99_at_entropy[/URL]

content:

#!/system/bin/sh
sysctl -w kernel.random.read_wakeup_threshold=512
sysctl -w kernel.random.write_wakeup_threshold=1024

it is the same method as android tuner does, u dont have to install it
[Galaxy S III Android Development] janres155:
So this script is for Entropy. Is there an app to see the entropy and to know if this is working?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Sadly I didn't find a way Andi. The only solution for me was to restore to my previous backup (which was a week ago). So I guess either a full wipe or a restore will are the only ones that can get rid of this nasty situation lol.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Clouter:
AOKP

Is this Kernel working with AOKP roms? I know it's not working with AOSP, but wondering if it's working with AOKP!

I'm running dirty unicorn 4.3.1

Thank you!
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
No. I don't think so.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Clouter:
Ok thanks for your help!
[Galaxy S III Android Development] nelsonw:
[MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION] I think Ram Manager Pro is also conflicting with your app.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
I use android tuner to monitor everything. u can also search for some apps on gplay store

this one for example:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.promethylhosting.checkrandentropyavail

to test this, 1st u have to do some multitasking and check the value using this app. If u check the value immediately without any multitasking, entropy will be kept as low as possible to save battery
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
I see. Thank you so much for all this. Definitely about to try it out. Guess that Contributor title isn't just for show :D.

I already have touch boost at the default 800Mhz. Question though, is touchwiz the whole rom, or just the launcher? I've already uninstalled it ages ago and only use Apex. Is the Entropy the reason why CM's battery drain is so huge? Even with a 7000mAh battery, I get way less than I do with Ultima rom. Though the speed is incomparable. As for the CPU values, I remember setting them to 1.2Ghz one day and still found it working practically the same so I decided to just keep it at 1.6Ghz. I'll try it again at 1.2. As for LMK, I think it was your picture I saw. I've set empty apps to 128MB and Content providers to 96MB. I always try to clear ram as much as I can so that's not a problem. As for zRam, I've had it at 500MB with 80 swap. I'll bring it down to 240MB and swap to 40. GPU was at 533Mhz, will restore it to the 266 max preset. I've tried setting them lower but the system starts stuttering when switching windows.

As for the rest on the bottom, that's completely new to me. I'll keep those in mind. Thank you so much [MENTION=4301380]axetilen[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Same procedure...

Guys,

unfortunately same procedure again... I will be going on a business trip to UK again tomorrow morning, coming back by Friday night.

So, I will follow the thread, but please expect some delays in my answers.

Cheers

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] axetilen:
touchwiz is a framework with laucher and other stuffs, that's why it is still affect the rom even though we use another launcher

I dont know exactly while CM roms consume more battery than stock rom cuz I have never tried it. Many roms dont have entropy stuff so we cant conclude that it is the cause of worse battery life. I think the reason is CM roms are not fully compatible with the hardware as touchwiz roms or maybe due to kernel compatibilities. I dont know

entropy drains more battery, yes but not significant
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
Haha. You should just be able to say "Code: Business Trip" and we would all understand.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Maceee:
Why after installing boeffla v4 stable my browser brightness randomly changes? And do I have to reset some settings or flash script before going back to stock or another kernel from boeffla v4?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] buachaille:
Is there a version for 4.2.2?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Coincidence. Kernel does not influence Browser specifically.

Also have not changed anything for the sensor at all.

No, not Samsung based.

Only CM based (CM10.1).

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] buachaille:
thanks
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Hbohd:
Two ideas.

1. LMK presets, like for equalizer. You had it in your earlier config app, why not now ;) (f.e. +10, +20, aggressive etc.)

2. More or less the idea.. Is it possible on kernel level to decrease minimal screen brightness? Or it is more rom-side thing? I know we have Lux-like apps, but why I have to keep one more app in memory?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Maceee:
Thanks. Seems everything works fine now. But you didn't answered the second part of my question.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Leicxan:
Just delete at.jar in /system/framework, you neednt do a full wipe
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Thanks for the tip but I already did a restore. I'll keep this in mind next time, thanks again.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] jun_ng_1208:
[MENTION=5146570]SignetSphere[/MENTION] Try fixing permission in Recovery or Boeffla app :) Should do the trick :good:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Haha... I appreciate you guys helping me but I've already made a restore from my previous backup. I'll keep your suggestions in mind the next time I encounter the same issue :D Thanks again :good:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Boeffla does not interfere with any other kernels nor stock.

No script required ever when moving away from boeffla.

Sent via Tapatalk2 from my Galaxy S3 IPhone killer
[Galaxy S III Android Development] highwar:
I would also like to know about the 2 thing

if its possible ..if it is related to kernel..
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Sorry what? "2 thing" ?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] sergini:
Have to say this latest version 5 beta 1 could perfectly be a stable version. No freezes, smooth and great battery life. Using it since it came out in Archidroid 1.7.2 with no problems at all.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] ansonchan:
Hey master,if i have change to adam kernel and now wan to use back your kernel,do i need to flash any cleaning script or not?or just flash over?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] highwar:
changing brightness in the kernel

less then the min
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Svartsyn333:
I read the thread back to at least about 10 pages, but no one seems to have mentioned the problem I'm facing with Nightmare Rom and Boeffla Kernel Version 5 beta 2 and also on Googy kernel. It appears that I get a cam error. On stock kernel everything is fine. :what:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] winworld00:
what governor and scheduler are u using? what rom?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Raulinho7:
Wanamlite 7.2

i didnt change any settings kernel related.

I have only installed boeffla-kernel-5.0-beta2, that's it.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] abihakim:
Hey andi, just want to ask.

If i want to revert back to the stock kernel. Just flash the stock or there is cleanup cwm flashable zip you provided?

Thanks
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Just flash it. The purpose of the cleaning zip file is only for those who are experiencing bootloops and other issues.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Pousse Mousse:
Thank you

Hi Lord, just a post to say thank you.

I installed your kernel on my S3 after this crap 4.3 update to recover a "normal" phone, it's my first custom kernel and it's just perfect.

My phone is smooth and stable!

So now i also installed your kernel on my note 10.1 as you also have a kernel on this tablet!

Keep the good job :good:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] aeonix_05:
Welcome to the club :)
[Galaxy S III Android Development] janres155:
test

Promising results with the beta kernel series 5.

Idle Time: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hz7u6k9429uscbx/Screenshot_2013-11-16-17-57-06.png

Screen-On Time: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lx657h5bevc27gb/Screenshot_2013-11-16-17-57-14.png
[Galaxy S III Android Development] RushaPoiL:
how can you have 5 hours of screen "on" AND get IDLE state being second?

you just turn it on and watch it?

That sems pretty screwed, get a girlfriend ! ^-^

out of jokes, it's a serious question, what's the usage? you obviously didnt do phone calls, neither play much
[Galaxy S III Android Development] janres155:
Actually, I use it for web browsing (WIFI), some sms, some FIFA14, etc.

You just thought I didn't use too much other apps because you can only see small percentage.

But the truth is that the percentage are small because of the 1day and almost 20hrs of idle time, which affects percentage.

I did have better results with perseus before, with 23hrs idle time and 6hrs of Screen-On time.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
Can someone tell me which LMK value is responsible for keeping cached processes? When you go to application>running processes>cached processes. Is it empty apps?

I'm literally having a blast here. 240MB zram at 40 swap with yanks battery zzmove. Turned off all animations so it's even better.

I'd like to make this edit to post about yank's profile for zzmove. As some of us know by now, I'm a very hungry power user always looking for the best tweaks to bring out the best out of my phone. But this governor should honestly be the default zzmove - optimal. After updating a list of apps, the phone didn't reach thermal throttling. Something that after a number of apps, should've. I kept a little pop up window showing the CPU behavior while doing so. While installing, it ran at max. But while browsing and downloading, it was running 1-2 cores. What I want to say is just how optimized this governor is. It's not just for "battery", it's an all around for the phone's every activity.

Kudos to yank for this amazing job. Sadly it won't let me tag xD
[Galaxy S III Android Development] ZaneZam:
woord man... absolutely agree! :) i'm using yank battery since it existst and never changed to anything else, exept for testing stuff of course :) and yes the term "optimized" is outdated, it was a readjusted setting to nuke lags in XELLA+ roms back in the days but thats all just a naming issue.. with upcoming build in profile support in v0.8 i will think about a renaming and will also add some new ones in addition.. but u will see then... ;)
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SuperAce609:
Haha. Super mega performance profile that installs an AC to keep the phone cool? :D
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Just make sure there are not init.d scripts left from Adam kernel (although I think it does not use it). Boeffla takes settings from his own directory, so no conflicts to expect.

Seems to have weird camera firmware requirements.

Make sure you update your camera firmware to latest version. Howto's can be found with search. It is a special code you need to dial and then the camera firmware menu comes up.

Jep, just flash stock kernel. Nothing else required.

Glad you like it.

Then... enjoy :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] machhho:
Can anyone please provide the link for the S3 version 5.0 . because it is not there at the download site, at least for me !

thanks in advance
[Galaxy S III Android Development] rahulnahar:
Where can i get the beta2 of 5.0 ? Please help. Looked at the site already. :(
[Galaxy S III Android Development] aeonix_05:
Dude it's already 5.1 beta1. So why go back to 5.0?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Exactly. There is no 5.0 version out anymore, as it was never a stable version and for betas I only support the latest versions.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] machhho:
thanks , hopefully we see very soon a stable version for the Android 4.3 .
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Not likely, as I said already I will not continue working on this kernel branch until there are news by Samsung.

So, the most stable version is 5.1-beta1. It should already run quite fine for you, almost like a stable :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
samsung has to fix fw 4.3., or issue a patch to fix

otherwise so far, there is nothing to debug
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Svartsyn333:
Thank you for this hint, unfortunately my update button in this menu is greyed out. :(

BHFJ02 is my cam fw version. Strange because I only read about GD (Sony) and ZD (Samsung) modules.

Edit: I managed it to get my cam to work with your kernel. :)

Seems that I indeed have a really weird cam fw requirement. I found the binary for the cam, backed it up, flashed your kernel. Then I found a binary with GH in /data/cfw but I need BH. I put my binary back in there, rebooted and now it works. Thank you for your help! :)
[Galaxy S III Android Development] sergini:
It's definitely stable.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] RCT1:
Do you have any cleaner Kernel script?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
it's already there. Look in your boeffla-kernel folder on your internal sd card.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] RCT1:
I think it's boeffla-config-reset-v2.zip...?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] SignetSphere:
Yes.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] mikailmohammed:
Guys need some help. My cpu is constantly doing everything at max Ghz. I have it set to 1600mhz. Really puzzled. I re installed the rom and kernel and still the same thing. I am also on 4.0 stable.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] jj92942000:
Which rom? Install better battery stats see which app is causing your cpu to overwork. It's not the kernel, doubt it's rom either but a rogue app going crazy maybe media scan constantly on.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] mikailmohammed:
Ultimarom
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
What would you need it for?

For moving away from Boeffla to another kernel? -> then you would not need to clean anything

For moving to Boeffla from another kernel? -> then you should just make sure init.d folder is clean.

BetterBatteryStats should show you.

But 99% it is the media scanner process. One corrupted file on your sd memory is enough to make this process go crazy. Just an idea...
[Galaxy S III Android Development] mikailmohammed:
I have full charge and i will monitor it today. Will post info as soon as i get info from my phone.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] MIKEMON:
Yes, I had this problem / scanner media /

I backed up the SD card, only important, format sd card and everything was fine

scaner Media, I ran at 60-70%
[Galaxy S III Android Development] UGW:
So your problem is that your CPU isnt going over 1ghz? Do you have the energy saving mode activated in Android? Because this feature limits your CPU to 1ghz...