yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishrally:
You obviously have never seen the LG Charger. It's very slightly larger than the phone. Not sure how it could be smaller. It looks great, good build quality, and best of all it is built by the company that made our phone, and they've released several wireless charging phones now. This seems to be the ideal Wireless Orb waiting device, it's the most official wireless charging accessory available for the N4, and once the orb comes it will make a nice secondary charger for the office or wherever. Too bad it went up in price. Wireless charging is turning out to be one of my favorite features.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Luxferro:
I wonder how many Nexus 4's will suffer cracked backs from the orbs magnetic pull?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericshmerick:
Unfortunately the greedy seller on Amazon (the LG one) has raised the price from $34 to $44 in a matter of days. They are like "finally! someone wants these things - PROFIT TIME."
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Works fine. I have a Touchstone charger and the N4 clings to it just all right. The back of the N4 has a ferromagnetic plate, don't think it has magnets itself.

Buy a back protector, should be invisible for all intents and purposes.

Is price fixing a central tenet of capitalism? (Seriously, I don't know.)

If it's like the touchstone, it's rubbery and grippy, pretty unlikely.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer(x):
Capitalism is based on markets.

Market is based on offer and demand. If the demand increases then the price will increase too.

So, high demand = high prices
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmygoska:
Providing you don't throw your phone at it and just take care and/or use a case I'm sure it'll be fine.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Capt.PP:
There is no magnet on Google orb; inductive charger. It uses rubber to hold against N4 back glass surface from sliding off. They stated it in the Verge's review at Google. No magnet like Palm's pre; inductive charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
While it sucks that the charging pad is more expensive (I paid the higher price), if you had these for sale, or a phone on ebay or whatever, wouldn't you want the highest price you could get for them? I know I would! If this is my business, I'm not going to try to sell for less, but rather as high as demand allows... especially if this is your livelihood. As long as the price wasn't set unfairly (ie you gamed the system), what's so evil about the guy getting what the demand states he should get? I received mine today and the phone comes tomorrow and this device seems worth $40. I doubt I would find it much cheaper at verizon.

As an aside, could someone point me to a tutorial on how to take it apart and remove the speaker from the PCB? It looks pretty sealed up to me. Wouldn't want to damage the thing before I've had a chance to use it.

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Really? It just rests there? If that's the case then I have nothing to be waiting for. The magnet really makes the sale for me. If you had a magnet you could tape or mount it to your car and have a nice little car dock. Not to mention a much more hassle free experience next to the bed. If it doesn't have magnets, the only plus to this accessory compared to the normal LG charging pad is the smaller footprint... and perhaps the lack of beeping.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishrally:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2003137&page=3

Post 21. Use it for a few days though before you take it apart. You might even like the beep.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmygoska:
Agreed. I was planning on taking it apart as soon as it arrived. When it got here I actually like the beep. Petty useful.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FallN:
:rolleyes:

Yes I have seen it. And my statement still stands: it's FUGLY.

Have a nice day.

:rolleyes:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abe in space:
It is most definitely fugly. Though I think the worst part isn't the finish, but the fact that the power port is on the right side.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shojus:
I just picked up mine for $38.00 from a local Verizon store but I have a 25% off corporate discount so it would have been $50.00... While it may not be the prettiest thing in the world it is probably your best choice on the market and as another person said it is actually made by LG and the pad is super smooth feeling so if you want wireless charging then you will sacrifice on "looks" for now and the beeping people talk about is a joke because its not even that loud (it's just a fricken beep sound) who cares!? If it has the option on my phone I wanna take that option so I have it sittin on my BEAUTIFUL LG charger as I type! :good: I think it looks pimp!! lol

Have a nice day... :silly:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
That's what I suspected, so it doesn't jibe with the other poster's statement but this is too OT. Thanks.

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There is a magnet on the orb actually. It's pretty much the same as the Touchstone, except it does Qi.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wolfboy1984:
Turn it 180° then. ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
UK folks, anyone think this one will work if they get their stock next week?

http://www.bitmore.co.uk/collections/wireless-smart-charging/products/qi-wireless-charging-pad
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Malandrina:
For the german folks around here:

The day before yesterday a few articles on certain blogs came out concerning a philips charger (Philips DLP7210B). I bought one from the pearl.de homepage (a few before me got lucky and were able to buy it of the amazon marketplace from pearl)

The one and only amazon rating of this thing revealed: N4 compatible

Whatever - I bought it for 29,90 € + 4,90 € shipping... and guess what: pearl must have recognized a sudden interest in this charger and raised the price by 10 € today ;P

Still a decent price compared to the expensive Nokia Chargers - someone might be interested - so here is the link:

http://www.pearl.de/a-HZ2112-4025.shtml?query=DLP7210B

On a sidenote: I don't trust the pearl homepage ordering system anymore... I ordered in the morning and by noon there still wasn't any confirmation e-mail. But the Support Hotline was very helpful and I ordered via phone.

And I'm still wating to place an order for the N4 - so I can't proof it really works... :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
It states Qi, so should work perfectly.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abe in space:
I think you missed my point.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericshmerick:
Do you have to have Verizon service for the discount to apply? I have T-Mobile Prepaid however my company does offer a 25 percent discount on Verizon accessories.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiephat:
Phone is coming today so I'll stop by a Verizon store and hopefully they have some to pick up. Hopefully...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyea:
I have both the energizer single wireless charging pad, and the lg wcp-700 charging pad. I think the lg looks much better and takes less desktop space, but the energizer does not heat the phone as much as the lg charging pad. I don't know which charges faster.

Occam, Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmygoska:
For those of you in the UK someone else here posted a link to a Gear4 wireless charging pad here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2020207

I went ahead and ordered it for ~£18 incl delivery.

In the thread they show a twitter reply from Gear4 saying it is Qi compatible.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Thanks for the info but I just don't trust Ebay. If people from the UK are looking for an alternative (albeit a bit more expensive) you can get the Maxwell Air Voltage Charger. This is Qi compatible and it is currently in stock here :-

http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...ltage-Wireless-Qi-Charger/ListingDetails.html
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
If I hadn't already bought one else where, this is what I would be going for in the uk.

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Same seller on the bay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Maxell-Ai...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item4abf0ef238
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d_phekt:
Scored a brand new LG WCP-700 for $20 from someone off my local Craigslist today. Works like a charm. Also looks good because it's basically the same shape of the phone... just bigger. Noticed the phone getting a little warm, but nothing to be concerned about. I swear I love this phone more and more every day!! :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slopokdave:
I bought 3 of these, after someone on here posted a review of it working:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053CYEW0/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00

I received the 1st one today and it doesn't work, but I think its the unit not compatibility:crying:. Waiting on the others to try....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Ask AC: Does the Nexus 4 work with the Palm Touchstone charger?

I'm sure someone has probably answered this in this thread somewhere, but since I am reading it from the start, I've not read through the entire thread yet.

But the short answer seems to be "No". The Palm Touchstone is not Qi, so there fore not compatible.

SOURCE: http://www.androidcentral.com/ask-ac-does-nexus-4-work-palm-touchstone-charger
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wolfboy1984:
Don't buy anything that doesn't have the QI logo on it. I thought we'd established that?

BTW, good luck to the guy here blindly trusting the idiot running the gear4 twitter account. If that thing is officially QI certified I'll buy it for him myself.

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A list of OFFICIAL QI certified devices.

http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/products/
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plexicle:
Same mate. Looks like we got burned on that one. Still got my awesome LG guys.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jnewman1991:
Have y'all tried turning the phone around to where the USB port on the phone points to the top of the charger?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmygoska:
With which charger? I have with my LG charger and it works fine, as long as you slide the phone down a little.

Added:

Not to go too much off topic but because of all this Qi/wireless charging talk I ended up stumbling upon this.

Now that I have a wireless charger it would be cool to add this feature to some of my existing stuff!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
The one the other two guys are saying doesn't work. The first guy who posted about it said it works upside down. I hope it does.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jnewman1991:
I meant to quote the guys who posted about the 5wc800.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] decepticon:
I just ordered the LG charger since the Nokia one was total ****
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kgeissler:
Will putting a silicone case on the N4 diminish the wireless charging capabilities?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Capt.PP:
No, the newer model they extended the inductive charging close to an inch.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwang:
I bought 2 of these as well. Got both of them today and neither of them worked.

I think we got scammed by the original poster.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer(x):
Still no infos about the orb, how is this possible?

Yeah, other chargers may be good too, but that's also a nice piece of design
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Capt.PP:
The Verge interviewed Google on N4. It seems the orb was there as a prototype. Full production could take a few months shipping here would take another month.

Clearly even N4, the main dish is not even ready for mass consumption.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
OK, so I tore apart this Sanyo Wii charger. I had a suspicion, since when Sanyo announced that charger, after a month or two they started coming out with various Qi products, and they're one of the stronger Qi backers.

So, it works... for a second. There are a few other problems, but that's the main one. This is how the battery packs look (one of them is open).

The little metal square beside the screw hole on the left is a magnet. That activates the charger. The charger cannot be hacked by just leaving a magnet on the sensor so it activates as soon as you put the battery pack. The magnet has to be sensed either at the same time, or after the coils are in range.

Anyway, that's just the little problem. Apparently this uses something similar to Qi. Might be the same thing, but with lower power requirements (the pack is just two AAA batteries, presumably Eneloop). The thing is that it charges the N4 for a second or two. The light on the charger doesn't turn on though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junks2010:
The Energizer dual charger does not work if I put on a rubber case.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raging Raptor:
Anyone know what the charge speed is and the UK?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Got the 5WC800 charger.

First things first. Make no mistake, this is a garbage cheap charger. $5 is about right. There's even a hilarious "QC" sticker on the bottom. Mine has the AC connector loose so it doesn't even turn on right now (did before, sort of). I'm opening it right now. There was something funny going on with the N4 though. From what I can infer (the instructions suck and contradicts itself), you plug it in, turn it on, green LED comes on, then when you place the thing on it it turns red until it charges (the instructions say both "red" and "flicker" but I haven't seen it flicker). The N4 turns the light red, but there's no activity on the phone. I connected the included back to a iPod Classic, and I can also make it turn red, but there's no indication on the iPod. I'm gonna be trying with an iPod Touch 4 next, but I gotta fix the connector first.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runningwarrior08:
Got mine this afternoon also, I did get it to show the charging icon on the phone, turn the phone so the earpiece is facing opposite side of the lip on the charger, so the phone will be on the charger upside down.

You then get the charging icon on the phone, but after 25 minutes the phone went down 2 percent...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xShadoWxDrifTx:
They really teased us good as a selling point..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
I'm gonna try something else, but the charger just died. So it's probably not powerful enough anyway.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer(x):
I'm considering the LG charger, idoes it charge atleast as fast as the stock cable charger?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjames:
No, and none of them out will. That being said, without doing any scientific testing, I'd say the LG charger gets somewhere between 80 to 90 percent efficiency in regards to the wired charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer(x):
Well, 80-90% it's not that bad. It's a good compromise
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inseconds99:
I just ordered the LG WCP-700 from Amazon, my Nexus should be here on Monday/Tuesday and the charger a day or 2 later. Now all I need is a bumper or case (as long as the wireless charger still works with a case on it).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadowfox993:
I got myself the s-line case and the ringke slim case. They both look amazing feel amazing without adding too much bulk. S-line case covers more but the ringke slim only covers the side. They both look awesome though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inseconds99:
Anyway you can post a picture of those cases? And do you have a wireless charging mat and if so does it charge while using that case?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FallN:
:eek::eek::eek:

Link to this interview please?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astalavista_thes:
I think that you're talking about this interview:

http://youtu.be/66-4uMQqerA?t=8m14s
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] resynx:
Wireless charging works with the bumper just fine. Me and a friend were testing how far it could get from the charger before it stopped charger and it was a pretty good measurement. I'm positive that you will be able to use a TPU case or something of that thickness and it will work without problem.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d_phekt:
I have the LG WCP-700 and have one of those rubbery dashboard mats on top of it to help it grip better. The mat is fairly thick and it works just fine. It's actually thicker than most TPU cases would be. I also noticed that since I put the mat on, it doesn't seem to get as warm while charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
Got my Maxell air voltage today - works a treat and charges fine with the tpu case I've got on. Here's a photo (coz everyone loves a photo). Phone will continue charging about 1.5-2cm above the pad - not that this really matters, but I though some might want to know. Seems to be charging nicely, charged 6% in like 10 mins (ish). Looks nice too.

As mentioned a few pages ago, you can get them from a seller on ebay/play.com at £38 delivered. Mine came from a private seller on ebay brand new for £28. It has a European plug on it, so needed a shaver type adapter, not sure if the ones on ebay are a uk plug or not - but worth having one handy just in case so you can use it straight away :victory:.

I got a iphone 4/4s charging sleeve with mine, so I'm going to wack that back on ebay and hopefully get a few quid back too!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3dawg:
Would you please take the TPU case off and look at the back of the phone near the top. Any *very* fine scratches? It seems that my case has scratched the phone a little after a few days of use :( It's not a big deal, but I just want to know what's causing it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgsy:
No not on mine yet, although I every phone I have had I have used a tpu case and still managed to get slight marks/blemishes on the bezel etc, you only need a few specs of muck to get under there for it to happen. I usually take mine off every couple of days and clean everything with anti bacterial cleanser anyway
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
Looks great. I have one on order with delivery supposedly between 6th and 7th December. So I have one or two questions if that is ok ? Firstly how "picky" is the Maxwell at phone placement ? On some of these chargers it seems like you need a spirit level, protractor and Laser surveying equipment just to place the phone accurately enough on the charger for it to charge.

Secondly does the screen stay on with dreamscape enabled whilst it is on the charger ? That is one of the features I love about this phone, the fact you can have the screen on continuously whilst charging with the USB charger and I am hoping it is the same thing with the Maxwell.

Finally and the answer to this question might have to wait a bit :silly: What happens to your phone once it is fully charged with the Maxwell ? I believe the Maxwell shuts down once the phone reaches 100% but what I am curious about is whether it kicks back into action again when the phone goes down to about 90%.

Anyway appreciate your time and I am insanely jealous of you right now :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aly19:
I am pretty sure that the Palm Touchstone does not use the QI standard of charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCreazy:
I am hearing mixed things, people are spreading it around as fact but there isn't any proof that I can find.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazy talk:
Call them and ask....oh wait... :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masterkamon842:
30 bucks. lol. Good luck with that... The Galaxy Nexus charging docks are still at +50 dollars. I can't imagine the price they'll put for an inductive charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llescaflownell:
A great way to test if the Touchstone is Qi standard or not is to use a device that is Qi standard, and try to charge it with the Touchstone.

For instance, There are some Energizer inductive charger cases (or whatever they're called) for certain phones like the Droid Charge, and the iPhone 3GS, 4. Get one of those, and place it on the Touchstone. If it charges, it's Qi standard. If not, then obviously it uses something else.

Anyone care to try this out?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -iNSiGhT-:
Hmmmmm....

Will inductive charger work with the Nexus4 in a bumper or any case?

Paranoid Nexus7
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
I read somewhere a ways back that the Palm ones worked up to an inch away I think. So if this is like that it should work. Maybe a little bit slower? I'm not sure.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeRRa4:
I'm definitely tempted by the look of the orb, and it'd be so handy to have one on my desk, which is where I spend most of my time when I'm at home anyway. It'd be convenient to just put my N4 on the Orb and let it charge whilst I'm doing work or playing games or whatever on my computer, but I won't pay over £40. I know that's optimistic, but it's not really something I NEED; it's something I WANT that'd make my life with the N4 a little bit easier.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qnet:
I agree. It took what seemed like several months before the car & desk docks were released for the Gnex. I don't understand why it takes them so long, demand must not be that high. Wait! the Nexus 7 has a desk dock?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ynrozturk:
I'll be picking this up for sure.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youareme7:
I haven't seen any pricing for the nokia chargers, i hope they aren't $100, that would be insane! I'm debating whether to just buy a couple of the touchstones now to just in case they do work with the N4; I wish we could find out for sure though...

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I am leaning towards the touchstone NOT being compatible. I looked at the ifixit teardown of the touchstone and the Qi low power spec document and the coil designs appear to be quite different. I can't say that it won't work for certain based on that alone but for all the primary coil design types in the spec i didn't really see any that matched up with the touchstone coil. It's a bummer but I'm going to wait until Phil on android central gets his touchstone and tests it with the Nexus 4 before buying.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeRRa4:
I think I'm being weird about this. I'm willing to spend more money to get something that will match my Nexus 4 rather than be a good and economical student and go for the cheaper option, lol. :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ntt1409:
IMO the wireless charger just like the traditional one. I mean you have to tough you phone to the charger. I will wait a little more to see if there will be a charger that allow our phone charged within 5 or 10 meters away. just like the bluetooth technology. That will be great.:good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeRRa4:
That'll be the day!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VinceThePrince:
Searched and poked around Google for about half an hour, came across a comment on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Portable-Office-Charging/product-reviews/B005DMBSVA

"The only other generic Qi charger I can find in the states is the Energizer pad (see my review there), but the Energizer pad is NOT working well with the Droid 3 setup. The other 2 inductive charging pads for phones in the US, the Palm/HP Touchstone and the Powermat pads, are NOT Qi compatible at this time, nor with each other."

So I guess that answers that. I was just going to shell out for 4 Touchstones, but looks like I'll be waiting for the Google one. Besides, the Palm branding on the Touchstone would probably bug me cause I'm picky like that #firstworldtechgeekprobs

The most I'll pay for the orb is probably $40.