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[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Biohazard0289:
After having all three, I'm holding on to my Nexus 10. The my experience with the ASUS TF700 was frustrating, and after multiple returns for a variety of issues I got a "good" one. Stock it's a frustrating experience, and making the necessary modifications voids your warranty.

The Note was a great tablet, although I'm not a fan of TouchWiz it wasn't so bad. It stomped the TF700 in web browsing too. The S-Pen was a novelty for me though, so I figured I'd save some money.

The Nexus is a beast, no regrets.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
For your requirements, watching movies and playing games, I'd recommend:

1) Galaxy Note 10.1

The CPU/GPU and resolution are balanced right and all games are fast. Screen on battery life is consistently ~8 hours. Benefit is it's not just a consumption device but also creativity and productivity with pen for drawing, paperless note taking, etc. Price was dropped to $499 for 32GB version to compete with Nexus 10.

2) Nexus 10

Has potential but games need to be optimized for it and the ridiculously high resolution. Battery life, sound quality and screen quality are behind Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a brand new device so there are minor issues that need to be addressed with the upcoming OS updates.

Skip the Tegra3 Infinity. When looking at Google Play comments for games I always see people reporting performance and games not working on TF201/300/700 devices while it's fine on other devices. I had the Nexus 7 and some games like Nova 3, etc. are laggy while fine on the other devices.

Another option unless you're anxious to get something now is to wait closer to Christmas and hope for new devices to appear. A Galaxy Note 12" 1080p with 4-core Exynos 5450, 4GB DRAM, etc. would be ideal.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Croak:
We're not likely to see any new devices announced for the rest of the year unless Asus pulls a rabbit out of their hat like they did the late year Transformer almost-launch.

Samsung and others will wait until CES and MWC for official announcements.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
I am sad. And alone, so very alone. Well I guess not that sad. But I think it's a bad move to not have a nexus device available on all carriers. Maybe a delayed release will occur?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Considering the small number of people on Verizon that would actually buy a Nexus 4 compared to the sales worldwide, and the disproportionate amount of hassle/hoops Google would have to jump through to offer it on Verizon, I don't think it's that big of a loss to Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] b1337:
Blame Nazi red
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
Yea, Joe blow walks in to a vzw store and they are lead right to the Razrfail.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Anthonok:
Not surprised by this at all
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] YoMaMa7467:
It really was ecpected though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jasonhunterx:
So what they blemished the Nexus name and purpose
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] b1337:
For themselves yep
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] earlyberd:
I don't blame Google. Until I can get a $30/month LTE plan, I'll suffer through my HSPA+ on T-Mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aooga:
Heres my thoughts: THANK GOODNESS!!!

All the Verizon Nexus did...and I mean ALL..was give the "nexus" brand of phones a bad name because of their RIDICULOUS update laziness. Anyway, where I live there's no LTE on AT&T or Verizon so I don't really care :)

I'm getting this phone..what about you guys? Of course i'm keeping my current nexus. Its one of the best phones I've ever had and getting the 8gb Nexus 4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
The yakjuxx variants were/are SLOWER to update. I guess your memory is selective. It didn't do anything to the Nexus name either. Sprint is slower too, and it gets Nexus devices yet I don't see you *****ing about them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aooga:
Yes it didn't hurt it for people like us who flash new roms every other day, but to the non tech geeko, maybe. And your right. I forgot about the yakju variant.

And for Sprint, this thread was about Verizon not sprint. lol :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crixley:
away with the fake nexi!!! yesss
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] I Am Marino:
Not surprised. I'll stick with my GNex until my VZW contract is done and I can get the hell off them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgyberg:
Dudes like rain man with this $hit :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
I'm not surprised by the decision but I don't think it has to so with verizon's handling of the galaxy nexus other than the standard blocking of unlocked devices bit that Verizon does. I don't know if I want Verizon to change their ways there, google to work out an unlocked devices deal with them, or Google to give in and just sell a Verizon nexus verizon's way. I guess I just find all the cacophony of U.S. cellphone bands annoying. I could just about survive fine on lte only at this point with Verizon...if they get volte up and running and let me buy such a device. I suppose how unlocked devices will get on eventually...but it feels too far away.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] angel.de.marc:
^^^^^This!!!

Although, I will say I have been impressed with their service. I get signal in places I never got on T-Mobile. But what's a missed call?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Deleted member 4151041:
I am also disgusted but their service is too good to leave and they know that. Oh well, maybe 2 years from now it'll all be VoLTE when my next contract is up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tarzanman:
I am relieved that Verizon isn't getting the next Nexus. Verizon's exclusivity and subsequent delay with releasing the Galaxy Nexus late last pretty much ruined the launch of the phone.

Many people had to resort to importing overpriced international models because no unlocked UMTS/HSPA was available in the USA for MONTHS.

Google is doing it correctly for the consumer this time. One phone running a global standard radio at a GREAT price.

I just wish I had $1000 laying around so that I could buy all of the devices they just announced.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
First of all, Verizon didn't ruin any launch but their own. The GSM Galaxy Nexus launched before it. If you are GSM, it didn't affect you at all.

Stop the nonsense please.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jaytronics:
I am not sure but, if I saw all the head honchos from VZW sitting at a table and by some odd chance, they all ended up choking on chicken bones at the same time. I don't think I would lift a finger to save their greedy rear ends. And I am one who would put them self in harms way to save a fellow human being.

They may have the best network. But they just suck for who they are. And technically all networks suck for who they are. VZW just happens to be the network that I am tied to. But I would be very OK with all networks shutting down and going bankrupt. I am not a fan of the governments or big corporations. I guess I am alone here. And forced to have to deal with someone's crap. Oh well, I suppose I will have to take it like every one else. Kind of makes me wish I was ignorant like the majority of this planets population. Then I would have less to ***** about. Lol!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
That, you are correct about.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
VZW is the only carrier with reception at my house and work, so GSM is not an option for me.

I'm still very happy with my Galaxy Nexus, it has almost everything I want at this point. The only hardware issue I have is with the battery, and that goes for any phone with a battery < 3000mah IMO. I need at least that to get through the day, as it is now I just carry spare chargers and charge allot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jaytronics:
I guess I am alone here. And forced to have to deal with someone's crap. Oh well, I suppose I will have to take it like every one else. Kind of makes me wish I was ignorant like the majority of this planets population. Then I would have less to ***** about. Lol!

Wow! How can I be alone in this and then at the same time have to take it like every one else? What am I smoking? Lol!

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OK, so I just thought about what I said. I don't think I could let any one die. But after I saved them I think I would feel inclined to given them all major charlie horses. Just that people like them make me a little mad to say the least. Any way, I'm done ranting and raving for now. I am off to bed. Just to be clear though, I would love to see all communications go down allover the world for a very very long time. You know? Go back to the old way of talking ton people and writing letters and so on. Actually, I still make it a point to write them every so often. It is a good way to ponder some of lives more important things. Any way, good night all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nickolas:
Verizon had nothing to do with no nex 4. Google said it was to much of a pain in their ass to have to make a phone with 2 radios just so LTE users (who make up a fraction of potential customers) can have it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
Just gives me one more reason to jump ship when my contract is up and buy an actual Google branded phone with that sexy Nexus logo on the back. Straight talk is looking better and better...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
My work all have galaxy NEXUS except me so when my contract is up in February I was gonna have them upgrade me to this NEXUS and now ill probably have to get the galaxy NEXUS if I can even still buy it haha.... maybe in 2013 something better will pop up at MWC (I think that's the name of it.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KidCuda:
I'm confused, all Google was that the LTE networks weren't 'maure' and it was a mess to work with. No one said Verizon turned it down...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EddyOS:
It's threads like this that make me love living in the UK where all carriers run the same tech - reception with one carrier, reception with them all! :D

Obviously it works the other way as well but at least you can get a SIM-free phone and it'll work on all networks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barondebxl:
Neither am i. Verizon made the galaxy nexus not feel like a nexus device, which is suppose to get updates as soon as they are available. I think an LTE variant will come in the next few months, but dont expect timely OS updates for that/those model(s).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yakju variants get updates even slower. So lets not blame Verizon for the only slow updates.

The Galaxy Nexus was handled poorly all over the place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aooga:
True, but at least you could flash the takju or whatever it is (stock google) to it and then you got normal updates. The toro you cant at all. Honestly it doesn't make the least bit of difference if you know how to flash a rom. The toro got the unofficial 4.1 hours after the gsm. And who know, maybe Google will change their minds, probably not, but who knows.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well, yeah. I've been living off AOSP for so long that I don't even know when official updates show up for Toro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Slacker101:
This. I never actually realized toro got the official Jellybean update until long after it had happened.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ncvikingx97:
Still, for the people who can't afford to leave, it is nice to have the option
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aooga:
Well yeah I'm stuck on it too. Still probably gonna get the nexus 4 though. I'll figure out what ill do with it later :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fataldesain:
what is the point of LTE on verizion when the data plans are horrible, anyway it sucks for any cdma user but I understand google on why they did it. I'm going to get out of sprint because this whole LTE thing is crap I was just on it and I was getting like 3mb up and down and pretty much if that is what it is going to be really whats the point rather just find a wifi hotspot.

I have four phones I just hope tmobile plans are not more than the 200 I pay at sprint for all four.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bagelicious:
I'd rather be without a cell phone at all than give money to Verizon. I feel sorry for those of you trapped on their network.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] norazi:
verizon does not deserve to carry the nexus 4... with their half assed updates and crippling policies they tarnished the good nexus name as far as im concerned. if you want a nexus phone, stop giving evil red more of your money
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zerocool79346:
I WS fortunate enough to get on in time to keep unlimited LTE, it's the ONLY reason I'm not ETFing the hell out of it. That plus the fact that my line is really only about $65/month makes it worthwhile to wait out my contract, at which point I'm gone to whatever greener pastures have reared their heads.

Yeah, I just looked and have used 4.41 GB of data for the month. I'm gonna miss LTE and unlimited whenever I get off Verizon, that's for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Esteway.619:
Why? I am very happy with the service I get from Verizon. 4g every where I go. No drop calls or nothing like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Marisa:
I dislike Verizon for a variety of reasons, but the number one is the CDMA network. Too controlling and the dual nature with LTE is a battery slayer. Their customer service is a joke. They refuse to update anything unless they can fill it with unremovable bloat. Their pricing is ridiculous. And I'm personally not a fan that they keep trying to get me to shift to a Share Everything plan that will only cost $20 more a month for less service.

I'm riding out my grandfathered unlimited data as long as I can and hopping ship to whatever GSM Nexus happens to be out at the time and going pre-paid. I'm willing to put up with the negatives to get out from under big red.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
That's kinda the thing about Verizon...I don't hate it or want off. The cell service has been so much superior here to anyone I know, and I never have issues when travelling. I get a huge laugh whenever we go out and my girlfriend on T-mobile has to use my phone (this happens way too much). Family plans aren't overly expensive compared to other networks, though I'd understand complaining about the other plans. Grandfathered on unlimited LTE...which would be difficult to leave. Speed is higher and not necessarily needed yes, but don't forget reduced latency.

What stinks about Verizon is their device Nazi policies. They don't want anything interfering with their sales model. That killed the Nexus One from ever getting to Verizon and seems to be part of the factor now. LTE radios would obviously be in a new Nexus if they could be added cheaply and if Verizon would allow an unlocked CDMA device to be sold by Google...both problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsupersonic:
I'm not - two reasons:

1) The Nexus 4 is not a worthy upgrade because of many reasons, but my primary reason is because it's made by LG, and they can't make a decent phone if their lives depended on it. The specs are ok, but the design is just terrible (not to mention this phone looks exactly like a GN from the front). LG can't do anything different than Samsung - people say Apple copies Samsung, but LG rips off Samsung like no other. I'm actually thankful this phone isn't even an option. LG should just exit the mobile industry.

2) Verizon messed up the Galaxy Nexus from start to current stage. Why should Google/LG make a version for Verizon/Sprint?

Who knows, maybe we'll see the LG Nexus 4 in the future for Verizon/Sprint.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dandroid13:
You do know that design and all that other things is ruled by Google and not LG or Samsung or Asus, don't you?

Enviado do meu Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimmyco2008:
Why would Verizon fire sale the GalNex if they aren't getting the Nexus 4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
I can do without LG. I'm looking forward to seeing what Motorola has up their sleeve. Maybe Android V5 will be ready by then.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
Fire sale may have just been to clear 32 gb and make way for the 16 gb they will be using now. Can't make the Nexus 4 jealous after all. And who would be suprised if the Nexus 4 does come to Verizon after delay...my guess is about Feb, when everyone will be crapping on it for not being 1080p =).

Just going to wait a few months and see what the landscape looks like myself, my upgrade urge hit a bit of a low with this announcement.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamHart612:
The Nexus line of phones should be GSM only....the entire idea of CDMA goes against the idea of the Nexus line. CDMA and "open" are two opposing concepts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jordanishere:
Tmo HSDPA+ still better than $50/no home internet. How is this suffering?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Availability?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NateK:
+1. Price is certainly better than Verizon, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Verizon gets you on hidden fees and other junk charges. We checked my line breakdown yesterday, and for 46 a month I get 1400 any time minutes, free m2m, unlimited SMS, unlimited MMS, unlimited data.

Do you think I could get this as an individual line? Heck no.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biggiestuff:
some reason I have a feeling there might still be a nexus for VZW just down the line. It won't be considered an official Nexus phone but will have the moniker. Just a bit odd that Verizon is the only major carrier in the states w/o their own version of the Optimus G.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
There is an LG device in the pipeline, but I bet its an Optimus G variant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biggiestuff:
If that's the case than good bye nexus on Verizon. =(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ncvikingx97:
Even if it looks like one, unless it gets the updates I am not going to buy it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zerocool79346:
Because it's nearing EOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dri94:
Verizon is already handing out nexus for phones out of stock... ive experienced great customer service with them. I have unlimited also. And the person who said the share everything is mire expensive is a liar. Its cheaper. Although i still dont want it. Verizon never has dropped calls and lte in all the little places too. Lije where i am. Great network. I would love the gsm nexus4. But the until a company can catch up on having signsl everywhere. No thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You can't say the Share Everything plans are not more expensive, because they ARE for some. They are not liars, just merely inaccurate. Same goes for those who say they are cheaper ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
uh... for the share plan i was a part of it, it was more expensive based on the usage we had.

$45/mo more expensive

so to follow your suit, whoever said the share everything plans are cheaper is a liar.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
You guys need to, you know, stop supporting CDMA garbage companies that tie you to your phone and put disgusting branding on your handset just because they want you to get used to being their cash cow.

Hopefully, Google is doing this with an ulterior motive, to finally start putting these CDMA carriers out of business and into the unemployment line where they belong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Hard to make that choice when coverage is an issue. BTW, GSM providers brand your phone and drop you into contracts here too.

The whole system needs and overhaul, not just CDMA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
Coverage is only an issue because the majority of people are going with Verizon for non-coverage reasons, giving them money to stay in business when they should be wiped off the face of the earth. GSM should be the American standard if we want prices to go down and we do that by boycotting crappy companies.

This is a Nexus forum. We bought Nexus because carriers are the middlemen we want to avoid. We shouldn't be hogtying ourselves to companies that engage in these business practices. I'm glad Google went GSM only and is selling direct. I hope everybody in this thread tells Verizon to go to hell and find an alternative way to communicate until GSM becomes the only way to go.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aooga:
No its not. The companies pitch design ideas to Google and they select what they like. (For the most part, yes Google does provide guidelines)

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There really isn't much of a choice here in the US. You are GOING to be stuck in a contract if you want good service, and for most people, they are willing to get locked in because actually making phone calls is more important than other things. I don't know about other countries, but I do know that US carriers are getting a bit carried away (no pun intended) in their way of doing things.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dandroid13:
Yeah, that's why they look like, lol. You said no then said yes, funny guy. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
I bought a nexus because I wanted a Google Device. I didn't and don't see how the presence of a contract matters to that. I have to agree that Verizon isn't unique in its carrier BS, just stands out as it is the most restrictive on off contract devices and updates.

It didn't feel good having delayed updates, but I don't mind that they want to test things thoroughly. The disappointing part is all the crap that gets through even with testing :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkozy:
Do tell about these magical "open" binaries all GSM phones have that cost $0 in licensing fees. They contain fewer, but do contain proprietary information.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dandroid13:
That's really ****** up... but being the largest carrier and use CDMA is completely BS. Here in Brazil carriers use only GSM and sell their phones unlocked (also, if you have a locked device the law says they must unlock it for free if you ask).

Sad part, the only Nexus device they sell here is the GNex. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarkozy:
Listening to people promote GSM and loathe CDMA is like listening to college kids these days discuss the merits of state-run healthcare versus a private system with all their worldly knowledge garnered from a polisci class. It's comical, really.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aooga:
Oh well :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cmoore0965:
Not true. The prepaid market(which is much cheaper than almost any standard contract) is mostly subsidiary companies using the exact same gsm networks that are offered on contract. Obviously there are many middle ground towns where it's clearly one provider, or bust. However, as gsm vs cdma goes, this is a major factor, gsm has both wider general coverage, especially internationally, AND is attainable cheaper. Google is making the perfect adaptations to their business practices, based on this.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
Man bringing up health care on the internet is like shouting fire in a theatre, careful!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dandroid13:
But use CDMA when 90% of all other carriers in the world don't makes no sense. The largest carrier here in Brazil made the switch some years ago, why Verizon can't?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sucker4pa1n:
Personally, I've never had an issue with VzW in the ~9 years and 5 phones I've had with them. LGVX6000, LGVX9800, LGVX10000, HTC Droid Incredible, and now my Galaxy Nexus. I didn't have complaints for any of my devices - 3 of which were LG - either. I can understand Google's position since CMDA is a bit more difficult and less popular globally than GSM, and LTE is still young. Regardless, I don't see how VzW "soiled" the Nexus name, since many Nexus owners customized their phones practically as soon as they opened the box. And the two Nexus owners I know on VzW who kept it stock were happy with it as it was.

As far as coverage... when I was at RIT service on my parents plan with Cingular sucked (Nokia candy bar phone was solid though). I switched to Verizon and never looked back. Service in NJ, driving to Rochester, and now being stationed in Maryland... I have yet to have a dead zone driving anywhere between Mississippi, across to Florida, and up through NY.

Just saying.... also, LTE in the DC area is tits.