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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] casbar12:
Slippery Orbs

The glass back of the Nexus 4 is exposed to every bit of oil and dirt on your hands. The rubbery textured charging face of the orb will not be strong enough to hang on to your phone if this oil is present on the glass back. Gravity is what is taking away from the wireless charging experience not the charger itself. It is a bit frustrating so far. Not the greatest design. Make sure to place your charger in a place where your phone won't fall a great distance until you get the feel for how this thing works.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idividebyzero:
The silicon ring holds it by friction, not suction, suction would actually work a lot better. The Gorilla Glass 2 surface is like teflon and has very little friction which is why it falls off everything, so using a friction pad on a nonfriction surface is just dumb. And because it uses so much friction while the glass back uses so little friction its going to hold onto every single particle that was on the back of your phone like oil and dirt, these things get dirty FAST and can only be cleaned a few times before they become useless.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
Electromagnets? Nah I just heard it has magnets in it, probably grips to the battery which is most likely metal
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idividebyzero:
the prototype had magnets, this doesnt, HP probably owns the patent to the Palm magnetic charger
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpswaim:
I have the same issue. I normally have an alarm clock app up as my phone is charging. I've posted a bug, and if anyone is seeing similar issues, I would appreciate the support or comments on the ticket.

code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=50047
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
There is already another report on it (https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=48980), and I posted a fix and a workaround there (if you are rooted, anyway).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpswaim:
Awesome! thank you. Are there any side effects of the "svc power stayon true"? how does that work when the line is missing in the required file?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
Nope, perfectly safe. It's just a command-line way of changing the same internal setting that the "Stay awake" checkbox does in Developer options. The bug is that the code tied to the checkbox only references the AC and USB charging values, and is missing the WIRELESS one. I wish I was set up to build Android and submit an actual patch to fix it, but I hope somebody who is will incorporate the change for 4.2.3, or whatever is next.

Edit...So if you were to uncheck and recheck the "Stay awake" checkbox after issuing the "svc power..." command, you would need to issue the command again, because they are changing the same setting.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cheeze[iT]:
I'm thinking if it slides ima place a small rubber stopper in front that the phone can conveniently stop at.

Ordered mine today hope it comes in quick. My lumia charger wants to be my wireless car dock charger
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7Merlin:
Can anyone post this thing ac power adapter specs? Will it work in Europe?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psyclism:
It's a standard 1.8A travel charger. 100-240v
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YakorL:
1.8A ? Better than stock charger 1.2A ? Wow.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcbboy:
hey guys not sure if anyone has said this yet but you can charge the phone with the orb when it's off without doing any weird trickery. Turn the phone off. Put it on the Orb. Hold down the power button like you're trying to turn it on and the battery icon should pop up instead of the phone booting up.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
Good spot!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urinsane:
I received my Orb today and am very pleased. As others have mentioned, I wasn't quite prepared for how small this thing is. Unfortunately it is going to be tough not to buy a second, as I didn't realize how useful the angle is for "docking" at my desk. I was close to purchasing a cradle and am happy I saved the expense.

It works very well with the Ringke Hybrid Fusion case; it actually sticks even better than just the naked phone back. I noticed that even with the case on, the phone will start charging a centimeter or so away from the Orb. Case on or off, no issues with the phone staying put for me. I just tested my old Ringke Slim case and it works perfectly as well.

I haven't had it long enough to fully test out charging speed, but so far it seems good. I'm trying to stop myself from constantly reaching over to grab my phone as this is my first wireless charger. Does anyone know if it is bad for the battery to be off and on the charger frequently? I would be interested to know if this causes any issues.

Admittedly, this was a bit of a luxury purchase for me. I do think somewhere around $40 would be a fair price, but I can see that this will be a very useful purchase. I just bought some rubber headphone and charging port covers as I already use bluetooth headphones, sync over the cloud/wirelessly to my PC, and now with wireless charging I will be cable free.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FatalityBoyZahy:
Awesome! I might just purchase one now :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
That sucks! So they are relying on friction to hold a very slick phone that pretty much requires a case? Why is it $60 again?

Basically they got no real way to hold it. It almost sounds like a pad is a better option in that case. And then I hear about how you guys are having charging issues, ugh this thing sounds about as nice of a qi charger as the thunderbolt was an lte phone!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
What's the neon qui charger that's a stand that's the same price?

NEXUS 4=Richard mille watch
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyton01:
Maybe this:

http://www.tylt.com/vu/

not out yet though I think? and $10 more?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
Yeah that thing,..I'll get the highlighter green one

NEXUS 4=Richard mille watch
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyton01:
It is $70 (maybe plus shipping).

Not released until April - pre-orders have sold out too so possibly later.

You still want it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noxlord:
FYI

Vidéotron sell the Orb for 55$CAD. It will soon be available in B&M stores.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
Yeah when I get the $$

NEXUS 4=Richard mille watch
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerdoesntrun:
Does anyone get a green LED light when fully charged, like you would with usb? Mine is still red and says 100% - Charging. It doesn't feel too warm, so I would guess it's not actually overcharging or anything.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
I have never gotten any LED at all while charging in any manner. Is that supposed to be a native JB thing, or is it a feature of some app or widget?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
+1 I only will get it if I enabled lightflow to do so.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nivlac978:
I'm not sure if this is a rom problem or involves the orb but I was sporadically losing signal when it was charging. I missed a call from work because of it. I rebooted it and it seems fine now but it was a strange occurrence seeing as how I never lose signal at my house.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fumanstan:
I got my Orb yesterday (actually delivered Friday at work but I was out of the office, +Monday a holiday) and luckily I haven't had any issues with mine. Seems to hold my phone fine with the OEM bumper, and it doesn't seem to be sliding off either. Kind of neat to have as a novelty, although i'm still not sure it was worth the $70.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerdoesntrun:
Good call on the LED. I've been using Light Manager, since LightFlow never worked for me properly, the whole time I've had this phone.

That being said, the LED isn't the only indicator that caught my attention. Everything from the battery icon to the battery settings screen indicated that the device was "charging" even at 100%, so I was curious if others have had this experience. The LED is is just a symptom of this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
Not me. When I had it on there last night, it eventually said "Charged". I don't remember seeing it say "Charging" and 100% at the same time.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dispatch:
Same here. No charging LED on stock (no LightFlow) as expected with WCP700 or WCP400.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
You shouldnt get any LED when charging unless you installed an application like Lightflow to enable it. In that case then its based on your configuration within Lightflow.

Mine works just like plugged in, it charges and my LEd moves from orange to green at 95% and then it shuts off when the screen is off and it hits 100%. From there it cycles from charging to idle.

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If its too rich for your blood then you can save TONS OF MONEY by getting the Chinese un-branded models for $30. Sure they are made cheap as crap, have some annoyingly bright LEDs or beeps and half of the time they stop charging and the charger has to be unplugged to reboot it.

Buy those and then go into that thread and wine about it, at least then you wont be cluttering this up.

Personally, for me, $30 is a drop in the bucket to have a charger that displays the phone, secures the phone (quite well, even without magnets) and works reliably so I dont have to worry about waking up to a dead phone because of my POS charger that I saved a whopping $30 on.

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Damn thing got me in the dog house. I ordered a second and the girlfriend though it was for her, it was actually for my office (and that is where its at now).

It confounds people who come by my office now.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] negroplasty:
Charging LED is a standard feature of CM10.1.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Ah, well in that case then you should probably be asking the devs. I can confirm that, in my instance, charging works as it would be expected.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarsh92:
Yes make sure you use the plug that comes with it. The one that comes with the phone won't work right. I found that out the hard way the first night. Only charge my phone 20pct the first night.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Mine has charged with the stock plug. Its also charged with a 600ma charger that I already had on my night stand. Probably slower but it charges. It will also charge with USB.

Its all a matter of how fast you want it to charge. Since my pod is on my night stand its got all night so Im not in a rush.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s1mba_:
hey guys just got in the charger today. problem i have is when i put it on the charger, the screen doesn't come on and doesnt make a sound. i tried it several times and it only happened once. the other times it would still charge but it would give no indication (screen won't turn on and no sound). any ideas?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kd78:
I have the exact same issue. I created this thread for it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38254132#post38254132

Hopefully there is a fix or something we are doing wrong.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcbboy:
my screen turns on but does not make a sound. I thought it was my rom but I flashed a different one and it was the same.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redthunda69:
When I place my phone on the orb, the included power adapter makes a VERY high pitched whine. Is this a common problem? It's not loud, just very very high pitched.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halluci293:
Happens with my original Nexus 4 power adapter, but not the one that came with my orb. Apparently the LG adapters are just ****ty. Both seem to charge fine though...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urinsane:
I'm usually pretty sensitive to those noises, and can report my adapter does not have this issue.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] incantevole:
mine is quiet as well.

what's the consensus on charging batteries? can i leave the phone on the orb all day while taking it off an putting it on again or should i let the battery drain all the way and try to do full charges?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerdoesntrun:
So should I be asking AOKP devs or Franco about this then?

You know what, I'll re-flash the AOKP default kernel and report back.

Update: If I reboot, the percentage goes down to 93, which is a pretty big drop for a reboot. Perhaps it's still charging because it's not actually full, even though it says "Charged". Then it quickly jumped to 99%. Something's off.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s1mba_:
so i just figured out that the screen will only turn on if the battery is <95%. now i just have an issue with the noise, the noise comes on the same way (<95%) but the jingle always seems like it gets cut off. it's dependent on how i place it on the orb. sometimes i'll get the full jingle and sometimes it'll be distorted.. really annoying.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerdoesntrun:
It's not Franco. It's either AOKP or the hardware.

Or I guess something common in all kernels, but if that were the case, everyone would see it.

Update: Eventually, my LED went off and stopped "Charging" at 100%, but after a few seconds it started again. I thought it didn't start charging again until the level dropped into the 90s more, but I could be wrong.

I suppose if all of this is completely safe, I don't really care, but as it stands, it's confusing and worrisome.

It also stopped charging a few minutes ago a 95% but when I turned the screen on, it started charging again, but it won't go over 95%. I'm not sure what's going on. Maybe I just need to run it through a full discharge cycle.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
Finally got $$$ For this orb, is it actually worth it? I told myself before I got N4 that I wanted that orb in the pic before the phone was released,..but if I spend $60 on a rubber that's gonna wear out, then what's the point....?

NEXUS 4=Richard mille watch
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solutions Etcetera:
Had mine for six days without a single hiccup. Phone sticks to it like glue (with or without the factory bumper). It charges faster than the WCP700, at lower temps (guessing because more air circulates the phone than with the WCP700).

I cleaned the surface with a towel dampened with warm water when I first unboxed it, but that is all. Pretty damn happy with it so I can't understand why other folks are having so much trouble. It was only 10 bucks more than my WCP700, so yes, I think it is worth it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] resynx:
For the people who have experience with wireless charging, will it work with a case on? Such as a TPU case?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
How does this wireless orb work? You have to plug the base to the power outlet? And then you put the phone on top of it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plexicle:
Yep. Magnets will snap it into place, too.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timskyline86:
Further confirmation the Touchstone will not work. Bummer as I just bought one for $5, oh well time to hack something else to use it!

http://www.androidcentral.com/ask-ac-does-nexus-4-work-palm-touchstone-charger
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptir:
I don't want to make a whole new topic for this... but does anyone have any thoughts on third party options? I see that Energizer sells an ugly one for $50, are there any other third party alternatives?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ellesshoo:
In my experience with a palm pre coil inside my Galaxy Nexus the answer is... it depends. Mine charges with one of those invisible shield like skins on the back cover. If the TPU is thin enough I imagine it will. Just checked, and it looks like it will also charge with up to 3 business cards b/w phone and charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nospin:
Anybody going to be getting the Nokia Lumia ones? They are looking pretty solid.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedh:
Was thinking about it, but they are very expensive and have nokia branding... don't really want Nokia on my charger, would have have it blank
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aSquard:
I looked at the Fatboy Charging Pillow to charge near my bed and will prolly use the Orb at the desk at work - Expansys has them but they're NOT cheap! http://goo.gl/4KLLF

They look good and come in a lot of colours - one review I read said it work with the Nexus (I want to say it was Endgadget)

I didn't think it had Nokia branded on it? Maybe I overlooked it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jt.61:
Just spoke to the google play representative and he said the wireless charging orb will be released the same day the phone is released on the 13th. Then, I asked him about the price range and he said $30-40, maximum $50. He also said cases will be released on the same day. So, I guess time will tell.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
hmm but i dont see the point , you still have to plug the orb so its not totally wireless is not like you can put the orb on your bed without a power outlet :(

You charge the orb first, then you unplug it and then you´re able to charge your phone?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedh:
http://www.beinggadget.com/wp-conte...oy-rechargeable-pillow-dt-901-color-range.jpg

Zoom in - and it's there in the middle :)

Big let down for me as I really wanted one, might just put some kind of sticker over it if I do get one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vido.ardes:
I really hope Google has the foresight to put an NFC tag in. It would be great to have a car dock that auto-opens maps, one at work the opens calendar so I can see my appointments, and one in the bedroom that turns to a desk clock. Maybe one in the kitchen that starts playing radio?

I could be buying a lot of orbs.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickedynick:
No, you just plug it in and leave it plugged in. Then when you need to charge your phone you place it on top.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjjere:
Unless something changed at Powermat, they said they are Qi-compliant:

http://powermat.com/2011/07/10-questions-for-daniel-schreiber-president-of-powermat/

Recently Powermat joined the Wireless Power Consortium (WPC), what made you decide to join this consortium rather than move on with your own technology? And when can we expect the first Qi compatible wireless chargers from Powermat?

Yes, we have joined the WPC. However, we have not now nor will we ever abandon our own technology. Powermat technology is proud to be best-in-class. Our technology has literally created the wireless charging industry.

As the leader in the wireless charging industry, we understand and support the need for a “common denominator” to which everyone in the industry can relate. As to why we joined the WPC: to the extent that the industry is growing and The WPC is gaining wider participation, we are glad to support them. Powermat has always maintained that we would support any standard that, through consensus, reaches a significantly broad audience.

However, we will continue to drive our technology. So, when a Powermat device meets a Qi-compliant device, it will interoperate with that device in accordance with the Qi specifications. But the best user experience in terms of efficiency, reliability and ease-of-use will continue to be enjoyed when Powermat receivers are paired with Powermat mats. And, by the way, we support not only the Qi standard, but several other standards as well including UL (product safety) and CE (Conformance European), as a way to help to increase the wireless charging audience and ultimately bring about a world without wires; the long-term goal and mission identified by Powermat upon its inception.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Hmm, this has confused me now.

Need to find this out for sure, as I can get the powermst portable mat very cheap.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Plexicle:
I'm not sure what you mean my man? You only have to plug the Orb in once and then you leave it there.

Say you buy two of them, alright? You put one Orb on your nightstand next to your bed. You put the other on your desk at work. See where I'm doing here?

While you're at work, just set it on the Orb/Pillow. When you're laying down at night, just lay it down on your Orb/Pillow. No need to plug in again.

It might not sound like a big deal, but trust me-- it's one of those things that you get used to real quick and when the time comes again where you need to plug a cord into your phone, you'll be thinking "wtf is this?"
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Capt.PP:
What he meant was you still need to find the designated spot to charge/place your phone like how you find the charging wire now. Even if you go Qi, there is still a wire going through that charging orb/mat.

This same reason why Qi never took off with mainstream. There are 3 major groups now forming up fore wireless charging. Power Matters Alliance's Qi from LG and Nokia. The Power Matters Alliance (PMA), which Google, AT&T, Starbucks and Duracell’s Powermat. Samsung and Qualcomm’s Alliance for Wireless Power (A4WP).

If you're still don't see the point in wireless charging than perhaps A4WP is the most promising wireless technology. On paper, it's as simple as place a wire (or wireless-unsure at this point) orb on a table within a few feet of that charger you would get wireless charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nospin:
Yeah the Fatboy is pricey. I had my eyes on the two smaller options, the little slab and the one the tilts it up into a "dock" position like the Orb. The colors are what have me, I think they are pretty cool looking.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1680:
I have both Panasonic Qi charger base and Powermat triple charger base, and I can assure you that both are not compatible with each other.

I have tried myself on switching between their receiver (AA charger, Li-Ion power pack, iPod dock, usb charging puck) and they simply refused to communicate and initiate charging.

I also have disassembled all of them (all the above charger/transmitter and receiver), and they use totally different charging control chip (which is the main component).

BTW, I also get Powermat at a very cheap prices :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Suspect it will take a long while to wear out. You just need to dust it off occasionally.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dispatch:
Indeed. There are hundreds of us with no problems at all.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facetubespam:
I concur. As with all things in life, only those with problems will find outlets to complain. The rest are living the happiness.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dsbs4:
works fine in my car and charges while I'm driving. The orb fits perfectly into a middle compartment, but the USB cord is so long that it eats up a little too much space. I hope I can find a shorter USB-mini USB that will work.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elsydeon:
Has anybody else tried actually monitoring their charging through the wireless orb with a battery monitoring app? Mines now charges more consistently after switching from the Poetic Borderline bumper to the Rearth Hybrid case, but I still see a lot of moments where the phone goes through some 1% charge/discharge cycles before it continues climbing. I can't imagine these are that good for the battery long term. These aren't being caused by any runaway apps, and even if they were, I'd be seeing the same habit from a USB cable, which I don't.

Also when it hits 100%, it seems to discharge down to 97% before recharging, whereas I think the USB cable only drops it to 99% before recharging back to 100%.