yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note II General] D3_:
Yeah this is how I feel, it's a good phone to use as a replacement or if you're on contract and have ages to go until your upgrade.

However due to the minimal storage space I don't think I'd get one as my main phone.
[Galaxy Note II General] NZtechfreak:
Heck no, no USB audio and no card slot=device is dead to me. I will get one for review purposes, but it cannot ever be my daily driver.
[Galaxy Note II General] zkyevolved:
It's a good nexus, but it's not a good consumer device. At least in my eyes!

I need a LED Notification Light,

Expandable Memory

5"+ screen!

Those are my requisites! Not for everyone :)
[Galaxy Note II General] CreepyDroid:
After a month with the note 2 it will take alot more than stock android and 350€ to make me change my phone. However I convinced a friend to ditch his laggy SE Xperia Neo for a Nexus 4 so I'll get to play with it for a while :D
[Galaxy Note II General] cashyftw:
Way to in love with my note to leave

Sent from my Note Dos!
[Galaxy Note II General] serialtoon:
I'm not leaving but I am buying one.
[Galaxy Note II General] ericshmerick:
This is a scenario where I'm glad I don't have an LTE plan. I have an international Note 2 (AT&T) and will be getting a Nexus 4 for portability. They both use a micro-SIM and both are HSPA+, so I can swap the SIM and go without hassle. If you have an LTE phone and plan, HSPA+ speeds are terrible.

Best of both worlds. Selling my GNEX (which I kept for portability) to finance the Nexus 4. No more SIM tray adapters!

I'm getting ~6mbps on HSPA+ and have exactly zero NEED for LTE. My data is plenty fast, thank you very much!
[Galaxy Note II General] serialtoon:
Not sure that is accurate as i have AT&T also with LTE service and im seeing 6-12 mbps on my international Note 2 and 21-25 mbps on my HTC One XL.
[Galaxy Note II General] ericshmerick:
Ok well I was basing it off of my short stint with a Lumia 900. They changed my plan to LTE and when I put the SIM in my Galaxy Nexus, the speeds were very poor. Ended up having to give them an Atrix IMEI to get speeds over 300kbps. After the LTE was removed and my data was re-provisioned to HSPA+ (on the Atrix IMEI, a recognized "4g" ATT phone) my speeds went back to 5mbps.

Maybe it's been fixed (LTE vs. HSPA+ speeds) but I didn't have a good experience with an LTE plan and a non-LTE phone.
[Galaxy Note II General] naimmkassim:
+1...exactly what i mean :D:D
[Galaxy Note II General] wonsanim:
No way, i buy a Nexus wen have a 5+ in. screen version;)
[Galaxy Note II General] shook187:
The N4 in the United States will be recognize as the world's greatest prepaid phone. But still no match for the Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] flyer138:
I have Galaxy Nexus and been waiting for N4 but after seeing N4 specs. I got Note 2 yesterday
[Galaxy Note II General] omersak:
The Nexus 4 can be a great compliment device to the Note 2 but it can't ever replace it. EVER. The price difference is a good indicator of this.

Great for if you have a spare sim around.
[Galaxy Note II General] Hell Guardian:
it does have LED notification light

anyway my hand is itching to get that nexus 10! its an absolute beast! specs/price/software support! it a damn steal!! :good:
[Galaxy Note II General] InsteadWoolf:
Definitive not. No mem. card slot, small screen... No no no! Maybe the Nexus 10.
[Galaxy Note II General] dnahelix:
I don't think there will be any match to the note 2 in next 6 months. once you get used to the size of note 2 you will literally get addicted. And the best part is that with all the features the device does not run out of power even with 8 to 10 hours of extreme use. 5.5 inch super clear screen estate is really a joy to use.
[Galaxy Note II General] fulcrum1971:
No Way am I going to downgrade to N4. Will definitely buy the N10.
[Galaxy Note II General] mys3:
After ditching my s3 & going back to the gnex, I was convinced I would stick with nexus phones... but I got the note 2 & it has been superb. I have actually started to like touchwiz since using this phone. Stock android almost seems a little dull (on my old gnex) when compared with this phone & it's features:good:
[Galaxy Note II General] b1nb1n2012:
Nexus 4 is way behind Note 2 and I would be deadly surprised if any Note 2 users would switch from Note 2 to Nexus 4.
[Galaxy Note II General] gee2012:
Wouldn`t trade my Note2 for this Nexus 4 but i am considering to buy the One X Plus 64 GB.
[Galaxy Note II General] Shawn_230:
I bought the Galaxy Nexus last year, really loved it and told myself I would never buy a non-Nexus device.

I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but impulsively bought a Note II instead... although I have a few issues with the Note II I'm not unhappy I didn't wait for the Nexus 4.

I feel the Nexus 4 is pretty underwhelming... when the Galaxy Nexus came out I had a SII, and the Nexus had a bigger screen, higher resolution, and ICS was so much more advanced than Gingerbread that every other phone would run for the next 6 months. But the Nexus 4... the hardware is hardly groundbreaking, and Android 4.2 is hardly a selling point seeing I have 4.1.1 right now.

So I'm not 100% sure I'll keep my Note II, but the Nexus 4 is definitely not interesting to me compared to the Galaxy Nexus.
[Galaxy Note II General] Jamal Ahmed:
me :D moving to nexus 4 as it launches :D

its a beauty a beast and everything i need
[Galaxy Note II General] JulyDerek:
No.

Love my Note 2.

Tho, the Nexus 10 looks really interesting !
[Galaxy Note II General] naimmkassim:
I have no idea why people like nexus 4??

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4854

Note 2 win all of it :D:D
[Galaxy Note II General] achusaysblessyou:
Because if all you want is a phone, the Nexus 4 is the best purchase, faster CPU and GPU than the Note II, 4.7" screen isn't too small or too big (average). It's a NEXUS meaning, it'll get updates ASAP from Google. The price is HALF the price of the Note II.

But if you want a potential tablet and phone replacement, then go for the Note II. Or the S-Pen.

I mean, I'll be recommending to everyone i know the Nexus 4 because it's a great deal (and most people I know wouldn't care for the Note II)
[Galaxy Note II General] Jamal Ahmed:
why?? because it you can get 2 and a half Note II's in its price, and its the fastest phone ever! [reference to TheVerge]
[Galaxy Note II General] Techngro:
Lol. Thank you. Made me laugh this morning even though my commute to work is gonna be a nightmare (NYC).
[Galaxy Note II General] RambJoe:
It's a good price. But you're asking people who already bought Note 2s.
[Galaxy Note II General] boodies:
lets be real here... they're both more than fast enough. get pass that and the difference is clear, note 2 had much more functions and features. but here's the bottom line. if the phone is too big for you then it's too big for you.
[Galaxy Note II General] jameslfc5:
Yeah I'm switching, the Note is nice but I would prefer the faster processor of the nexus, better camera and lcd screen and the portability

I got the note thinking I'd use the pen all the time and it turns out I don't, one thing I will say tho is the Note battery has spoilt me :( no phone will ever match up to this for battery :(
[Galaxy Note II General] Lucidmike:
A device is completely useless to me without a SD card slot. I watch a lot of tv shows on the go, and record a lot of video. Not having a SD card slot was the deal breaker with the Galaxy Nexus, and that will be the deal breaker for every device they put out. Why pay your carriers every month to stream the data, when you can buy a card, and keep that with you forever. You can probably buy a 32GB or a 64GB SD card every month for what they are charging for data. Or just buy it one time and save yourself some real money, and gain a lot of conveniences.
[Galaxy Note II General] palanku:
Cant find better words...

No sd card slot means fewer apps..fewer music...movies...games...the newer apps and games are more big than yesterdays games thx by newer processors gpus graphics..so no sdcard no the best cell on the market..is one of teh best but no the first choice for me...just my 2 cents
[Galaxy Note II General] CreepyDroid:
I'm still thinking of selling my note 2 and getting a 16Gb nexus 4 and a 32Gb 3G nexus 7 instead. After a year of using a phone/tablet hybrid my note became my main device and I'm using it a lot as a tablet so I guess having a real tablet will be a better choice for me (and 10" tablets are so big to be held for long hours).

However, I'm sure that I'll be missing the 8 hours of screen on time. Tough decision :(
[Galaxy Note II General] naimmkassim:
I have galaxy tab 7 and note 10.1..yes, its was a pleasure and fun to have a wide and big view..but trust me, its not convinience as note 2 or 1 is when u want to use it on the go..:D:D..tablet is just for you to seat on a chair @home :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II General] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
I was thinking of moving on but the SD card port and no notification light was a total turn off.. in my opinion the note is too big in the first place.. 5 in. Is a gigantic ass screen for a phone lol.

Sent from illuminati land
[Galaxy Note II General] foxmeister:
16gb max storage and no SD card is an automatic fail for me. Stunningly bad decision to produce this device in 8/16gb variants - should've been a 16/32gb IMO.

I will still get one to use as a backup phone as I sold my Note 1 at the weekend, and the Nexus 4 is a very cheap phone for what it is.

What it isn't, however, is a replacement for my Note 2. YMMV of course.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note II General] Nutsonfire:
I find it funny when people brag about cpu/gpu performance on phones. Ok single core vs dual core, yes, but quad vs quad or this vs that gpu... where not talking about desktop gaming here.

It's like the LTE stuff who needs 100mbs to check gmail and Facebook on their phone?
[Galaxy Note II General] lestalegend:
Nail on head

I looked at the title and thought what the hell.

Unless your a 7 Year old (with adhd) with concentration levels that last 30seconds why would you even consider going to a phone that is inferior after 3 weeks, the mind boggles. If you have the money fine, in my eyes the new nexus' only perceived benefit is its OS, it is LG after all :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II General] Livebyte:
Note 2 better cause of Sound Quality alone.
[Galaxy Note II General] Irwell:
It's quite clearly not the fastest as the Note II outperformed it in all benchmarks apart from two, the two being ones that don't run properly on Note II due to the vsync limit and the Exynos chip. All the benchmarks that didn't hit software limits were clear (20% or so) victories for the Note II, and that's despite TouchWiz. The Note II hardware is in a different class to the Nexus 4, but the Nexus 4 is a very good budget phone.

The reason The Verge say they Nexus 4 is the fastest phone is quite clear if you read their Note II review: "Unsurprisingly, then, I’ll be calling the Note II a tablet henceforth."
[Galaxy Note II General] theoneofgod:
But if you go to the Nexus 4 threads, all you read is...

"We want this, and this, and this"

It's annoying.
[Galaxy Note II General] immunityx:
No nexus 4 is crap.

And LG is sh*t

Put 4.2 Android aosp on the note 2 and you have a nexus 4 by Samsung with sd card, lte , better battery, bigger screen, better sound quality
[Galaxy Note II General] X_Fact0r:
I couldn't tell if you're just being sarcastic or not with your signature being Nexus 4.
[Galaxy Note II General] frugger:
I'm going to the Note 2 from the Nexus 4. I had intended to buy the Note 2, but missed a sale and picked up the Nexus 4 instead (I came from the Galaxy Nexus). Having picked a Note 2 up on Black Friday for $549 and having a chance to really spend time playing with one yesterday really sealed the deal. The Note screen clarity & color is better, larger size is better, S-pen rocks, dual window, 1/3 longer battery life, etc.

Nexus 4 is going in the drawer as a backup.
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
There are a lot of threads opening to try and discuss various specifications of this phone, beyond what the standard press releases say, so I thought I would try and collate all of the known specs, and breakdowns of their details.

If you spot any mistakes or any missing info then please let me know so I can update this post!​

External Hardware Specifications - LG Nexus 4

Chipset - Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064

CPU - Quad core "Krait v2"

GPU - Adreno 320

Chipset PMIC - PM8921

Baseband - Gobi MDM9215

Baseband PMIC - PM8821

RF Transceiver - WTR1605L

Wireless RF Module - Atheros WCN3660

NFC - BCM20793

Global Navigation Satelite System (GNSS) - ALM-3012

Digital Signal Processor (DSP) - Hexagon QDSP6

Digital-to-Analogue Converter (DAC) - WCD9310

Rear Camera - "Exmor R" IMX111PQ

Front Camera - IMX119

Flash Driver - LM3559

Screen - LH467WX1 TrueHD IPS+ with ZeroGap technology

Touch Screen Controller- ClearTouch S7020A

Backlight Controller- LM3530

RAM - K3PE0E00A

NAND - THGBM5G6A2JBA1R

Battery - LG BL-T5

Wireless Charging - BQ51051b

Headphone Jack - FSA8008

Gyroscope / Accelerometer - MPU-6050

SlimPort Transmitter - ANX7808
[Nexus 4 General] jacklebott:
Cool, pretty comprehensive
[Nexus 4 General] pham818:
what kind of sim card does it use? micro sim? nano sim?
[Nexus 4 General] WarCow:
Micro SIM
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
Added External hardware specs and screen ratio
[Nexus 4 General] steviewevie:
Does it comply with industry standards for wireless charging ?
[Nexus 4 General] Nexus 4:
Thank you, pretty useful for people like me are checking reviews and so.
[Nexus 4 General] jak3z:
Battery model is BL-T5.

Typ: 2100mAh/8.0Wh

Min: 2030mAh/7.7Wh

As seen on the FCC pictures.
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
As far as hardware is concerned can someone please say what the two headphone jack looking things are on the bottom?

They can be seen on this photo ...

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Nexus4-320x440.png
[Nexus 4 General] jak3z:
They are the screws that secures the battery cover.
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
Haha, I feel stupid now... cheers for the info though ... hopefully they won't stand out too much :)
[Nexus 4 General] CJHolderUK:
Can anyone tell me what kind of gaming performance I should expect from the Adreno 320? Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] jak3z:
Check this photo from the FCC so you figure out.
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
This should give you what you want.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview

tl;dr It's good :D
[Nexus 4 General] adridu59:
So, the camera is supposed to take good pictures ? (not like the Gnex...)

I wonder how it will compete against GS3 cam..
[Nexus 4 General] Monkeybrew:
Are you sure about GLONASS support? I know the chip supports it, but it has to be activated in software. many HTC phones for example have snapdragon chips that support GLONASS, but they are crippled in software.

Also, it seems the optimus g doesn't have GLONASS either.

http://minus.com/lcUd26ueodJc3
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
At the moment, the only thing we know is that the hardware supports it. Wether it is is disabled in software is another matter, and if it turns out it is then I will change it.

The only thing I would say about the LG Optimus G is that no one has confirmed it doesn't support it either. As it is in the hardware, it may just be something people don't mention as no one outside of the tech community has heard of it. Also, it may sound a little racist, but if you tell most non-technical westerners that their phone is using a satellite navigation system design and operated by the Russian government, they may see it as a turn off. Sad, but true.
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
That's pretty ugly :/
[Nexus 4 General] MuayThaiFighter8:
What do you mean with ugly?
[Nexus 4 General] compact_bijou:
Hopefully it'll make the N4s battery accessible. Or at least more fixable.

Guess we'll have to wait for the teardown.

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He thinks that's the front :D
[Nexus 4 General] rmkilc:
I could be wrong. Does native Android use NFC to initialize the connection, and bluetooth to transfer the data, and Samsung's implementation in the GS3 use NFC to initialize the connection, and wifi direct to transfer the data?
[Nexus 4 General] hx4700 user:
The camera is quoted as having Focal Length: 5mm

That does not mean a lot to me, as it depends on the sensor size - does anyone know what the 35mm equivalent of that is?

(I'm concerned that it might be silly like the new HTC One X at 28mm. When I was starting in photography, 28mm was a very wide angle lens that only a few photographers had - 50mm for standard and 35mm for wide angle was the norm.)

EDIT:

Looking at the explanations of sensor size on Wikipedia, the 1/3.2" sensor is 4.54 x 3.42 mm giving a crop factor of 7.61, so a 5mm focal length is equivalent to a 38mm lens in a 35mm camera. That is wide angle, but not ruinously so. At least it will get some distant detail. My Canon SLR came with a zoom lens that was 35-55mm; my Canon SX260HS pocket camera has a 25-500mm lens.
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Yes
[Nexus 4 General] yumcax:
I don't know, I'd love a wider angle lens. You are able to take more interesting perspective shots, get closer to the subject, and not worry as much about shake.
[Nexus 4 General] dc211:
The USB port has a lot going on for this phone. It's one of the features I'm excited about. Check this how awesome it is.

Also interesting is....

The quotes above are from http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2012/11/what-is-slimport-2489684.html

And here is the manufactures page on it. It specifically mentions that it will do USB OTG and HDMI out at the same time. So it's gotta be powered USB host.

http://www.analogix.com/products/7808.html

Check out the manufactures multi-output accessory.
[Nexus 4 General] spicypixel:
Not sure it actually allows both, seems to hint at seamless switching.
[Nexus 4 General] -Zeppelin-:
Why, when it has Photospere?

Gesendet von meinem LG-P990 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] Neroga:
If iOS6 is anything l like iOS4 and below then the 3GB of cache helps with how smooth the iPhone is. I haven't used one in quite some time but I did a lot of testing when I did have one. 3GB of cache is just unnecessary.

Sent from my Jellybeaned Motorola Atrix HD MAXX
[Nexus 4 General] lokenok:
Has a Sony BSI EXMOR R Then im all set to buy this phone!
[Nexus 4 General] :
Nice looking dock. Where can we buy one?
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
So, can anyone confirm wifi direct? Also is zero shutter lag still present?
[Nexus 4 General] Konstigt:
Since it supports Miracast, it also must support Wifi Direct?
[Nexus 4 General] cgorki:
A new video on the german LG Youtube channel says it has "only" Bluetooth 3.0, but a user asked them to verify it, since it should be 4.0.

There was no other answer from LG directly. Are there any reliable sources to clarify it?

I think it's a significant difference to power consumption...

Link to video: http://youtu.be/6oQCCmuTn7k
[Nexus 4 General] Monkeybrew:
nono. It has BT 4.0
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Never even knew it had Miracast, if it does then it does have WiFi direct!
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
http://youtu.be/6oQCCmuTn7k?t=4m22s :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] B97:
Probably the best video to answer my question :thumbup:

Is it me or is there a pinkish tint in the camera? I hope it's just me...
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
It does look like pink tint in the center of the frame.

Hope the final version corrects it.
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
source

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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here Thermald.conf from the Nexus 4

http://pastebin.com/ZFynx5um

thanks @ https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/266219967563837441
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
I confirmed the camera details 3 days ago?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33645116&postcount=142
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
my bad :o
[Nexus 4 General] tulongest:
Do you guys know which hands-free headset? Say the iPhone ones or the ones that come with the SGSII?
[Nexus 4 General] mmm286:
Wowww! Cool!

Zero shutter lag is for me the main feauture to buy it

Really thanks for the video
[Nexus 4 General] yahyoh:
but there is many reviews said there is shutter lag ( slow auto focus )

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...ndroid_at_its_best?taxonomyId=75&pageNumber=2

maybe software bug ( hope so :( )
[Nexus 4 General] mmm286:
Yes I saw that in many reviews the say that the Nexus 4 have shutter lag and slow focus.

We must wait to release Nexus 4 and check it :(
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
One thing to bear in mind, they've been saying by default the N4 is shooting in HDR mode, so when talking about shutterlag, consider it is taking multiple photos, and compositing them.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
I just feel funny that people ***** about shutter lag on a phone.

Get a real camera if you actually care about that. They are quite small, too.
[Nexus 4 General] Shaky156:
I know the shutter lag is software issue

anyways people that are complaining about thermal thermal

n mentioned sensors, there are 4 sensors located 1 for each core on the S4pro
[Nexus 4 General] ja91zero:
apt-x

do you know if nexus 4 has apt-x codec?

:)
[Nexus 4 General] Shaky156:
adreno 320 runs max at 400 mhz, has 5 freqs on the table ranging 27mhz-400mhz

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adreno 320 support Direct3D 11 feature level 9_3, openVG, EGL1.3, SVGT1.2, OpenCL1.2
[Nexus 4 General] bioyuki:
Any idea if the N4 has hardware or software noise cancellation? Here's to hoping for an Audience chip...
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
There is that mic at the top that's been sited as for noise cancelling.
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
This excellent photo from android police answers my own question :

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/nexusae0_lights2.jpg
[Nexus 4 General] adridu59:
There is an HW flaw on the Nexus 4 fixed via software: the fixes disables the ability to use UART when an audio jack is plugged in, because using the UART bus at the same time causes audio noise (jack only).

https://github.com/android/kernel_msm/commit/910a603efc10d7f008a6d9b866a470b8ef84e5a3
[Nexus 4 General] ttilits:
when we can expect revison 2 of nexus 4 in uk?
[Nexus 4 General] jak3z:
lol revision 2?
[Nexus 4 General] CaspaTheGhost:
Care to elaborate on 'revision 2' for us?

If you mean software, there is an OTA due the day before release.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] jameslfc5:
According to the Android police reviewer there is an update scheduled for the 11/11/12 that will be bringing the lock screen widgets and hopefully some other improvements and he will be updating his review to reflect this
[Nexus 4 General] jkoljo:
I think he means HW revision, a new one that has minor modifications and improvements compared to first revision. You never know when it comes out, if it comes out.
[Nexus 4 General] EpiphanyMachine:
Can you confirm that software will support this? Source? The Gnex has 4.0 hardware but does not support it. I am hoping it will work with both heart rate monitors (BLE) and the Pebble Watch.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Shutter lag is not slow auto focus, nor slow continuous drive.

Definition:

Shutter lag - the delay after you pressed the shutter button and the actual picture is taken.

Slow auto focus - I think everyone knows this. This is NOT shutter lag. It's the speed that the object in your frame comes to focus.

Slow continuous drive - Continuous drive mode is a mode the camera/phone takes picture continuously as long as you hold down the shutter. Since each picture has to be processed and saved as JPG, MANY factors will affect this speed. We don't need to worry about this on a phone. Nobody really use this mode. If you find you use this mode on your phone very often, you better take 1080P video and capture video frame.
[Nexus 4 General] mmm286:
Thanks.

I hope that no have slow auto focus and shutter lag

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] ja91zero:
anyone knows if n4 support apt-x codec?

thanks
[Nexus 4 General] spencer88:
We need one of these posts for every phone.

Thanks.