yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] bullzhigh:
athani.. need some info here.. im planning to get it thru a fren of mine in the US. he lives there so he has a US credit card. So after he orders from the google store i would want him to send it to me thru courier. Please tel me wat is the best way to ship it from US and hw much wud it cost for shipping and which service is good.. I heard that they open the package to check the items and handle it rough and sumtimes steal things too.. is this true??

Anyone having shipped a phone or a gadget before from US plz shed some light here.. thanks in advance.. you guys rock..
[Nexus 4 General] lokeshsaini94:
I am in...Lets talk on pm or gmail... as its not alowed here...

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I am ready....

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I too need some info of this...

Hmm... stealing thats a bad news...lol
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
Hd7 cant run android...

May be you are saying about HTC hd2
[Nexus 4 General] shadehh:
I suspect LG is going to have to go down with the price. I honestly can't imagine them making any profits if they decide to make it more expensive.

I have no access to play store, however, since I'm in austria (not too far from germany) - there are already about 7 shops (and the device isn't released yet) - that are going to offer the Nexus 4. between 390 ~ 400 euros for the 16 gb version.

I presume that they are all ordering it in germany and having it imported. This is still 100~150 euros cheaper than stupid LG's price. I hope this is done everywhere else as well.

I think the reason they are not replying to e-mails asking about the price is due to the fact that they are still very insecure about how much they should ask for the device. Deep **** right there
[Nexus 4 General] lokeshsaini94:
Yea...lol
[Nexus 4 General] Umang Sardesai:
Yup..There have been cases where phones have been stolen when they are sent through courier.. so its a big risk !!:mad:

So its better if a friend/relative in US of yours personally gets the phone here in India.. :P

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Yup Its safe..

Two of friends have bought Galaxy Nexus from Alfa and its working GREAT !!

I too have bought gadgets from Alfa and there rarely has been a problem..

Also there's a shop called as "Mobile Point" beside Alfa where u can get Galaxy Nexus at round abt same price ..

That shop is reliable too and they also install a software in your phone called as "Mobicop" which basically helps u track your phone incase it gets lost ..!! :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Teehee, profile infarction. Not as severe as a cerebral infarction, though it may leave you speechless, this is usually only temporarily, and the loss is limited to the site on which the infarction occurred.
[Nexus 4 General] anirudh412:
Either way, it is unnecessary.
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Sorry, just trying to make light of things. People are getting all sorts of pissy all over the place. Not claiming I have not been as well. Looking to be mirthful, no matter what people post on here and where, there is some really cool goings on in the world of android, new Nexus, newer Jelly Bean :victory: :p :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] assist4tech:
Yes your are right can't carry more than two at as time.

Also with bulk the problem will be usual import and custom charges will apply.
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Mail forwarding is ok.

But first, we need someone with a US credit card to order the stuff for us.

Circleofomega, if you have someone who can order from US, could you order for a few of us as well? We could pay you in advance. I've a Shop & Ship account, so shipping won't be expensive. Just customs duty to take care of.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
There are services available but what about customs its quit expensive
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
Why? I use my Indian cc on US online retailers.
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Google Play wants US cards only.

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Customs is about 18.5%. That's around Rs. 3.5k. That's quite a bit but not a deal breaker. Anyway, it's unavoidable.
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
Good point. But depends on the declaration policy of the mail fwing service ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
Or you can order from online retailers like staples
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
They WILL declare everything and pay the duty. I've used their services in the past.
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
Then it doesnt make sense. Here the sales tax is 8-10% (25-35$). Plus 10$ shipping. On top of that 18.5% (60$). Then mail fwing and shipping.

16gb ver will be close to 500$. Better buy it from negri than all this hassel.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
i Have heard of some other services i can't remember its name though
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
AFAIK, there's US sales tax only in CA? So the phone would be 350+shipping $10. Plus 10-15$ forwarding to India. Plus customs. I think the total cost would be about 23k INR which is not too shabby.

You save at least 100$ by not buying from negri. Worth the hassle for me. Negri is 450 + 55 shipping + customs.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
But you can get rid of customs if it is a Gift
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Do you have contacts in the customs dept? If not, it's nearly impossible to prove to their satisfaction that the article is a gift. I've tried it.

What we could do is to order in bulk and try to "negotiate" a duty, if you know what I mean ;)
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
Untrue. Only 4 states dont have tax. Unfortunately in CA its the worst.

Ahh didnt realise negri will have customs..thought would be 455+50..so 505..
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
Then what do you suggest we can prove them its a gift just write a letter inside the box and some other ****
[Nexus 4 General] haxor:
Guys currently having galaxy nexus and now confused as should I have to buy S3 or wait to launch Nexus 4 in India ?
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] faraz1992:
I planning to get one in december as an upgrade to my N1... will cost me 350 only as a friend is coming from US (i just wish rupee covers up over dollar by then ;)).... what i'm concerned about is the position of the speaker. Since the form is flat (as the pics suggest), when keeping the phone on a cushion or mattress, the sound output will be greatly reduced... This happens on my N1.... any speculations about the form factor???
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Actually, I think we will have to pay duty anyway. Because even if it's a gift, if the value of the article is above (I think) $250, duty has to be paid.

So I don't see a way to avoid duty unless someone is returning with the phone...but then again, he can get only one or two.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
You live in Pune Huh where exactly
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
So, with tax and US shipping, the Google Play check out price would be closer to $400?
[Nexus 4 General] ImSherlocked:
As far as I know, custom duty on phone is just 2.06%.

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My nexus was bought from play store, it cost me $389 ($349 + $10 shipping + $30 tax).
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Gosh! You're right. That makes it lot more attractive. Thanks for correcting me.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
can we have a clear consolidate info/guide as to how to get it from the US for interested parties?

I mean, how much are the custom charges, how many devices are allowed per person etc etc..?
[Nexus 4 General] AbhishekS:
Even I'm planning to buy the Nexus 4. If I ask my relative from US to send the $349 model, what will be the approximate total cost I will have to pay including the shipping charges and taxes and customs?
[Nexus 4 General] whosaysjohn:
we can all wait till it actually starts selling in the States...even ebay sellers will have premium pricing when it is launched...will wait to see which is cheaper (ebay or LG india)...
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Landed cost.

So its: $349

+ Shipping: $10

+ Taxes (Estimate): $30

+ Shipping (to India): $15

+ Customs @ 2.06%: $8

Total: $412 i.e. Rs. 22,152 at today's exchange rate.

Duty free allowance is Rs. 25000/- if flying in. If shipped, its compulsory...but duty is low so I wouldn't worry about it.

You need a US credit card to order. Best to ask a US based friend/relative to do it for you. They will have to receive the phone and then ship it to you in India.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Their reply to my tweet...

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Can u explain a bit more in detail?

What is duty free allowance?
[Nexus 4 General] faraz1992:
Kondhwa... but why?? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
If someone enters through a port, he can bring goods worth Rs. 25k without paying duty. Duty will be charged only on amount by which the goods exceed Rs. 25k. Of course, this is only for a person bringing in dutiable goods in his baggage. If it's shipped, etc, there's no allowance.
[Nexus 4 General] BeowolfAgate:
Nexus 4 Indian Users

Hi Folks,

I am new to the forum (so apologies for any nuisance) and new to Android bandwagon but to say the least I m lovin it !!

I went through the overall thread and It seems that 30K an above price being mentioned for nexus 4 should not actually be the case. If we go by simple math

UK Price for S3 = £390.90 which is INR 33,913.2722. They are selling it here for 34,900.

UK Price for Nexus 4 = £239 which is INR 20,734.8991.

Using cross multiplication, ((20734.8991*34900)/33913.2722), we get 21338.1039. approx - 21400

even if we add 10% buffer - 21400+2140 = 23540. not that bad right?
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Interesting. But I'd like you to compare US rather than UK prices.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
Oh you live nearby i live in sahkarnagar do you know the store Tulsibaug I own it. just above that uilding is my house
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
I am willing to spend around 22,000k for the 16gb not a dime above
[Nexus 4 General] whosaysjohn:
https://www.firangibhai.com/products/Google-Nexus-4.html

It's up for pre order for Rs. 25900 for 16gb. Seeing these guys for the 1st time... Ships a week after release in US.

Just for clarifications sake... Would the radio used in the us version be the same as the one going to be used in Indian version or different...
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
Lets do some research on them and then think of ordering it
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
NICE find...

so thats the amount we pay...? 25900 for 16gb?? No shipping costs??

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Ok...so lets say, it costs 18k or even 20K...will he still have to pay the duty? No right...
[Nexus 4 General] whosaysjohn:
All shipping costs included...
[Nexus 4 General] fanaticprakash:
What about warranty???
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
I don't see an estimated shipping date? The price seems high compared to ordering directly. No warranty and for those living in Maharashtra, octroi is extra. The return conditions seem harsh too.

I'm not ordering from this website.
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
No I don't think you'll get warranty.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Dude ordering directly will always b cheap..nothing beats 18K...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] fanaticprakash:
Oops! Then it is better to get it from usa! Do we have to pay tax for it? If so how much?
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
This is just bloody ridiculous.

Because of these variations in pricing by Google and LG, and because of these exorbitant taxes, I'm left with just one choice. Either I have to find someone to get it for me from the US or I can't afford this phone at all. This is an absolute joke.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Even the US one won't have a valid warranty here my friend...that warranty is valid only in country it is purchased in..

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
It's not 18k if you order directly. It's 18k + shipping + customs, etc.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
What shipping? What customs? A friend will get IT...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] fanaticprakash:
I know bro! since n4 going to release here we can repair it for reasonable cost! At worst case we can send it back to US to repair!

My question is while they send from usa do they have to pay any tax?
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Umm..I don't think that will happen...as when they will ask u for the bill, it will be a USA bill right?

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] fanaticprakash:
Yeah they will be purchasing from US playstore!
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
Not everyone has such obliging friends in the US. :D
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
Yes. In CA: 299+26+10

& 349+30+10
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
If this actually is the price, not a buck more, sign me up. I'll go in for the 16GB version.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Hahaha...nothing like that man...but was wondering if even a friend gets it will he still have to pay taxes and all?

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] gdsbalaji:
If already posted...sorry..

here is the comparison with optimus g vs nexus 4

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4941

per this site...there is no SD card slot in Optimus as well..BUT here is the official link on US optimus G...has 16 gig SD card preloaded

http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/optimusg/performance.jsp

my personal exp...i never ran out of space in my HD2 with 16gig sd card...no more space is needed for me....i play games and when i travel i watch movies..could easily pump 3-4 movies (best mobile view res..not ur typical 3gig mp4s) with many many music files...
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
US taxes, yes. Shipping to India and customs, no. Not such a big deal. Shipping to India is 15 bucks and customs, 8 bucks. For $22, I'm not going to bother a friend or wait till he comes. I just need a friend with a US cc to order it for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Jasonnex:
I read a lot of people saying in this forum that LG determines the priceof the Nexus 4, not true. Google does that. LG is like a medium only, something used to sell the device. It is like a carrier. It does not do much, but manufacture the phone and the servicing. The price, software updates etc. are taken care of by Google. Hence, we can come to a conclusion that the device's price will be somewhat equal to that of the US version.

But with that said, LG does play a role in this. They will ask for the phone to be sold at a higher price, and Google might(read probably will) oblige and increase the price slightly. Add the tax and all the other things and you will probably come around the figure of 25,000 Rs. That brings me to the reason why Galaxy Nexus never launched in India. It costed too less, for a device with an HD display and Samsung did not wish to sell it at that price. Now you might ask, wont LG do that? My answer would be, NO. There is a reason for that, some might find this strange but LG does have a huge market here in India. Also the fact that there is such hype about the phone will only come to our advantage. The next thing, that can make you come to the conclusion that the LG Nexus will come at a very low price is the fact that, it is the first time such a device has been released at this price. Galaxy Nexus, was priced at a reasonable price for the specifications, but when purported to India that price was very low. What I mean is that, Google is actually trying to sell the device at a remarkably low price point, not just sell it for that price in US.

I assure you, should this phone come to India, its price will be around the lines of 25-28k. Something which is really low for a phone of this caliber :good:.
[Nexus 4 General] hriday26:
Registrant:

Tarun Dev Sharma

D 784, Saraswati Vihar

Pitampura

Delhi, Delhi 110034

India

Administrative Contact:

Sharma, Tarun Dev @yahoo.com

D 784, Saraswati Vihar

Pitampura

Delhi, Delhi 110034

India

9810118700 Fax -- 27016285

Registration details of www.firangibhai.com from www.whois.com

The cheapest place to currently get the n4 from. Website has been register in September last year. Hope it helps!
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Great work.. Matches with the name given in the "contact us" section. Anyone knows about this site. I am seriously tempted to order despite the price and no warranty (provided there is some 1-week warranty and guarantee on fast delivery). Guess , I shouldn't be so hasty :)

And, nice to see so much enthusiasm from you all. Got to 10 pages from 4 within a day!!
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Looks like many will be dependent on you...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] ak700:
I am an Indian in USA. Does this count my in?? LOL. But Yeah, hoping to buy it on 13
[Nexus 4 General] Awesoham:
Pricebaba updated that post:

Update: Many of our friends on Twitter have pointed that the US pricing for Nexus 4 is $350 and that should translate to max INR 25,000 In India. We hope it is so! Our source is credible, but not a decision maker. LG might not have decided upon a pricing yet or communicated it widely enough for our source to be 100% sure.

:D yay!! Nexus 4 here i come.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
25K? How...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
You didn't read the post fully. They have added:

"That said, another totally independent industry source just DM’d us to confirm the pricing we mentioned. Let’s hope, that isn’t the case."

:(

Also to others doing direct currency conversion, you have to consider that Google is basically selling the phone at cost. So, unless Google is launching the device in India, LG will try to maximise its profit. So,below 20k is highly unlikely.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Nexus 4 General] ishan_rulz:
Taxes, baby.
[Nexus 4 General] dhruvmalik:
I Expect This Device To Be No Less Than 25 - 30 K
[Nexus 4 General] balamu96m:
@ak700:

So you are also planning to jump from g3 to n4 !!

But, we, in India, are unlucky.... 8 GB variant around 19k INR would be my cup of coffee!
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
6000 bucks!!! Holy mother of cow...hmmm...

Sent from my RaZr HD.

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Brings me to another question... how much is too much then??

I mean...I know LG wants to make profit and all..but WHY India? I mean..here they should launch the device at the same price and they will still make more profits than US.. considering the number of people will buy it..

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] ishan_rulz:
This is the calculation I did but of course, I do not know what Google/LG has in store for us.

UK Price for Galaxy S3 = £390.90 which is INR 33,913.2722. They are selling it here for INR 34,900.

UK Price for Nexus 4 = £239 which is INR 20,734.8991.

Using cross multiplication, ((20734.8991*34900)/33913.2722), we get 21338.1039

So, around 21,338. ~ INR 21,340
[Nexus 4 General] anshumandash:
How much sure all of you that it will ever be released in India? Google ditched us during GNex. I would love to buy if it is priced up to 28K. The us price with tax & shipping should be about $385. That would be about 21K inr.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
First thing, I believe the number of indians, buying high-end smartphones is much much lower compared to countries like USA, despite the much higher population. So, not sure about the profits part.

Also, if am not mistaken, Google not LG is selling the phone in US, UK etc, which means that through some agreement, google has bought off the phones in bulk from LG. LG is risking the loss in sales from their flagship Optimus G by doing so. However, since N4 lacks some features (LTE) and considering their low brand presence and that the phones are primarily being sold via the playstore online [apart from T-Mob at similar price compared to Optimus G @199 USD], there was not that much risk.

However, if LG not Google wants to release the phone in India, they should be looking at margins similar to Optimus G. [ ie. compensate for lost sales from Optimus G, which doesn't look as attractive from an Indian's pov ]. However, if they price the phone too high, they will lose lots of potential sale. [ Many people like us might consider getting it abroad + SGS3 & even HTC's One X/+ would seem a good option at higher prices considering LG's low brand presence in India as well]. So, I was hoping for 25-28k price. But, 32k is certainly possible [ which means store prices below 30k] , though I pray it is lower.
[Nexus 4 General] Mindfreak14:
Hello ppl ..like all of u here m also looking to get the awesome NeXus 4 soon :) m even more excited as i wud be moving from my 2 year old HTC Wildfire baby to this LG Wildbeast!! hehe :p

I hv a cousin going nxt week to US & coming back on Dec 5 ..He is gonna visit many places..

and Around Thanks giving time he'll be in NY,NJ,Penn and then lastly in Texas..

Now my concern is which of the states hv least payable tax so tht i cud get at the best price? So any one knows or any US guy here who can find out what extra charges wud be applicable on play store for 16GB N4.. shippin + tax to New York & Austin ??

Any info wud be really helpful..

Thnx a lot for ur time :)
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
I am dam sure it would be more than 30k
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
CA is the worse in terms of taxes. At other places, it will come to around $390 with taxes and shipping.

Ask your cousin to get one for me too :)
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Oug:
And one for me to :D
[Nexus 4 General] Awesoham:
Taxes, shipping and eBay sellers' own profit. :(
[Nexus 4 General] bullzhigh:
the price difference of iPhone 5 16 gb in US and India is around 10k. So i guess it's gonna be the same with LG Nex then it will be priced at around 28k more or less..

And looks like Firangibhai's strategy is to buy from the US thru its contacts in the US and then ship it to India so there wont be any warranty. One wud pay a 3k more and get a phone with warranty than buy a non warranty phone.. my 2 cents
[Nexus 4 General] asdf2020:
what is actual release date in india? Heard it will be released in November itself.
[Nexus 4 General] haxor:
Guys can we trust build quality of nexus 4 as compare to Galaxy Nexus ?
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Meaning? Well, one thing I am certain it won't be able to survive half a dozen falls as well as Galaxy Nexus [ glass vs plastic, similar to iPhone 4/4S], but otherwise the build quality would be awesome!!

Check here:

Nexus 4 Initial Impression- Android Police
[Nexus 4 General] assist4tech:
Nexus 4 now ready for pre-order

Guysjust saw this .. Nexus 4 is open for pre-order on ebay.in ..

Google LG Nexus 4 | 8GB - Pre Order - Rs 23490

Google LG Nexus 4 | 16GB - Pre Order - Rs 27490...

I am super excited ...

http://www.ebay.in/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370680792682
[Nexus 4 General] dhruvmalik:
Yea, that's what the floating price is for an import. Some places they are trying to squeeze more than 30k for it. I am sure the going rate will be around 25k - 30k in India once its officially available.
[Nexus 4 General] arora_c:
pretty expensive..... check this below ->

https://www.firangibhai.com/products/Google-Nexus-4.html

NEXUS 4 8GB - INR 22600

NEXUS 4 16GB - INR 25900\

:good: :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
I might want to wait for it to come around 22 then...

Any idea how much is it in the US with the taxes..

350$+ taxes = ?

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
So sad. Outside google play, LG aiming to sell at 599 euros in EU countries :(.. Above or near 35K in India, this phone would be damn expensive, and it would make a lot of sense to buy from US after all.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
http://thenextweb.com/google/2012/1...ock-the-nexus-4-as-lg-hikes-its-retail-price/

Bad news again...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] arora_c:
I don't think it would come near to 22k even after 6 months of release in India. The prices in India will be much higher as here the phone will be distributed by LG and not Google.

- Sent from my GT-I9100
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Looks like I'll have to get this phone from US and hope for best. .. :|
[Nexus 4 General] AayushDhuria:
I'll get one from US as well :D :D Sold My s2 for 19.5k :P