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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Nope leave those backround limits normal unless you want to enter a recent app and find current data missing like as if it reset... but you could experiment if you keep the limit high it might cut down on older backround processes. Thank you for trying these.

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Thats a beautiful antutu run the advantage of 1998mhz - 2106mhz is show there with 5350 cpu score :) nice work

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Here is the media scanner issue that can show up on any android rom.

Find ut and force stop if and when your having the issue anytime. It may reactivate when playing media or games so figure out if cpu is maxing out a lot you should be checking for the background process which may be the issue.

Voltage table i posted already for first timers stick to that one only.

This table is my current and i am seeing how stable it is it has helped heat under load but my upper and lower frequency still may be lowered too much so none of these are guaranteed im still checking it out and adjusting ive mostly was working on governor. Im installing new rom tonight so i will continue checking volts over next week atleast. A lot that post can use 700mV - 800mv in idle to mid ranges i find mine has its limits and i am trying to stick to it. Many of these volts will likely end up being higher. Again first use my first volt table if trying undervolt and for awhile to be certain its working before going lower. That is if anyone is using what i posted.

Here you are tentatively.

*best practice trying someones volts or your ow is backup settings in ktweaker, change set option at boot to off and start entering volts apply and test if it doesnt crash from get go. Dont set volts you are unsure of at boot to prevent bootloop. Even if you set a long wait till applying settings sometimes boot takes longer than expected you could end up not being able to apply old settings fast enough so better to set not to boot while experimenting. Jim is right about taking precaution using others volts or claimed volts they say is stable.

*one of the threads for Ktoonservative we mention mpdecion and how to disable it. If you only use Ktoonservative which has hotplug built in you need to disable it.

Go to terminal and type

su

Hit enter

Type then

stop mpdecision

Hit enter

Open settings and developer options check show cpu usage seen here

Once you turn off mpdecision it will no longer show in that cpu list, when you did that it worked. It overrides what we are doing in Ktoonservative and turns on second core a lot when it would be off.

Need to turn it back on, go to terminal type

su

Hit enter again. Lower case letters only! Now this time type

start mpdecision

Again just check that dev option and see if it shows back up. No restart needed.

Type that into a script and load that script at boot to fix it automatically at boot.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
U going to be on for a while I got someone that needs some help n I can't figure it but maybe u can bud

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
I was still typing that haha lol just finished. What happened?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Nvm bud we found the problem got it fixed now lol

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
He had some bad lag n batt drain n CPU was ping out but we found it bud it was something the android media running like crazy

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] 5FOOTER:
OK so we need to stop mpdecision if using ktoonz? It will help with the 2nd CPU from coming on when not needed?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Freecharlesmanson is testing on that he says it working pretty good for him just try it and see bud

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] 5FOOTER:
Will do I was reading a couple post up and thought it was said not needed on ktoonz

Read the last part by mw86
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
It would be correct to say MPDECISION is not needed when using any governor which has hotplugging built in such as Ktoonservative. I have been using it off since freecharlesmanson showed me in this or the other thread and using monitor apps it seems to correct a problem where id turn off hotplug by threshold and id watch core two came on by some other reason and this was it. You regain control basically and can just as easily turn it back on if you use a governor which doesnt have hotplugging (controls when 2nd core turns on and off).

My test simple was set ktoonservative to 100 on up threshold hotplug there by preventing core two from turning on at all and once mpdecision is disabled it no longer turns on on its own.

Read both threads guys if you need monitoring apps. trepn profiler you get from qualcomms website. Cool tool, system tuner plus navigation bar plug in, Perfmon by Chainfire. Many ways to monitor while in other apps. Just talking in general.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
How do I turn it off

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] 5FOOTER:
In terminal

su

Enter

stop mpdecision

Enter
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34991575

And my above post at the end i describe it you need terminal to do this command

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35034476

Like this guys

I put this into a script and set rom toolbox to start that at boot and it does the same thing automatically though no terminal needed. I showed in that post also how to see if mpdecision is off now.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steven1pc:
I'm sorry. I meant to say that that I use those frequencies for screen on as well as screen off. I can't seem to find any touchwiz jellybean roms that operate smoothly at those frequencies and they always seem to make the phone warm, even with a whole bunch of system apps removed and renaming of the qosmgr and related files. Everytime I flash, I even wipe the emmc completely twice to make sure it's nothing on my part. I also use kt touchwiz kernel.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Maybe Galaxy man has advice for those reasons of bloat and samsung apps i dont use just too much always running so I use AOSP. I find on any rom turning off sync and data when not using them prevents a whole lot of backround use.

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Nice 5+ hours screen on and 5hours 6 min of that was likely a large amount of that at 96mhz :) likely just surfing or parusing and shows its not using mhz unless it needs to be. 20min at 2106mhz must of been some workloads like transfering files, titanium backup or anything similar. The end where you battry drops off quick is often when cpu is loaded and or gpu at same time and screen on for straight time instead of short periods usually drops more battery than if we use it on and off all day and not a few hours straight. I hope the new tunables are working good. They attempt to not drop mhz when cpu is still busy i find it helps get back to idle better by using the current frequency a little longer rather than dropping early and running lower frequencies for a lot longer than the frequency it was at to return to idle.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Idk maybe I'm giveing the wrong or something I don't want no one to leave ktoonz kernel cuz of something I said just doing the best I can with what I know n told

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] SubyStar:
Yup mostly just YouTube and xda forum. Big drop was me also trying to get this thing to drain the battery!! Wanted to start tomorrow with these new settings fresh and new. Had that screen on for about 2 straight hours while watching a movie.

I think majority of the 2106 was when I was benchmarking and I threw in some multi tasking with video/games/browsing/xda app.

Liking everything so far. Thanks a ton and will post up tomorrow with another update.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
No i think what was being said is everytime using Touchwiz and the kernel its getting hot. So look for background stuff but that was mentioned it was already all un installed so i figured being your on Jelly Bean Touchwiz type rom maybe you know of any other issues you have seen other than qosmgr and the media scanner i and freecharlesmanson have mentioned. I think the issue at question was wether to stay on Touchwiz. Its hard to debug two android versions and a ton of rom possibilities. I hope its all figured out. Keep posting what you guys observe if you have issues we all who can will try to help.

Edit:

See you guys on the other side. Im going from PARANOID since its been first posted to Paranoid AOKP Cyanogenmod or PAC oh yeah! AOSP based so 4.1.2.

:p best of both worlds!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35023460

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Great going from more traditional settings to my first and now these i see in games like you tried instead of constant 1728-2106mhz i see more reasonable 700-1300 and peaks only when load actually was getting high. I like it a lot it seems to not jump up and down either as much as my first one. Thanks for the great feedback. Ill be gaming too to continue keeping an eye on it. I appreciate this greatly. I targeted thresholds by watching many activities and using various monitors at different times since some monitors skew results with added cpu usage.

I dont know if its free or not i dont remember now but this app even though refresh rate is low it shows cpu usage in a more proper way for our multi core cpus here guys see here just the cpu monitor it has is running in pic so there is more it can show than that actually.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] GTOJim:
This afternoon & evening this tread has been very active with new things to try out and test. Thanks a bunch mw86. I already used up my thank you's for the day.

So far your new settings are purring along just fine. I used your voltage settings but added +25 to each step, adding +25 was still lower in almost every step than my previous settings. Don't think I'll make any more voltage changes provided everything continues working ok.

I stopped mpdecision and setup a script with Rom Toolbox Pro per your instructions, which were a big help, couldn't have done it without them, thank you.

FYI PerfMon app is $2.49 which I purchased. Ran the test per your instructions to verify mpdecision wasn't running, it was stopped. Thanks again.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Logix:
I just got 18 hours of batterlife with no wake locks uv/uc. Thoughts? Is that bout average? I'm really stable should I try for more uv or tweak governer?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
If you were pretty busy on it thats great life for stock battery and not being a power control freak ie the display ultra dark, no radio on all day, no emails no sync ever lol. If you used it normally thats good. When i first started on my stock battery with no such governor id get 10-13 hours of battery and 2-3 hours screen time at most. Now its more like the pics ive posted. Get a feel for normal then use a tweak at a time so your sure it helped and combine them all at the end :) need help let us know but there should be plenty info going around on this thread and the other Ktoonservative discussion thread.

Jim your very welcome I didn't know ive helped so much. Thanks! Im glad you got it all set. I just went through a ton of work to get to new rom and its my favorite so far. I also find if your governor tunables reset set romtoolbox to set it to the proper settings also at boot. Seems when I do that it keeps the Ktoonservative default down threshold from reseting.

Cheers guys. Im glad freecharlesmanson and my settings are being so well received.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Logix:
Pretty common use little streaming and upnp but brightness always low/on auto oh and lot of web surfing its pretty much every day usage

Good to know I'm trying it at lower frequency today see if it's Any better

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Pretty common use little streaming and upnp but brightness always low/on auto oh and lot of web surfing its pretty much every day usage

Good to know I'm trying it at lower frequency today see if it's Any better

Do governor tweaks make it much better than that mw? And the sad part is most of the time it was searching for signal which kills batt the rest is on Wi-Fi
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] steve97ta:
My Android use was very high until I did the mpdecision script in Rom Toolbox per your pics.....It automatically went from 64% use of battery to 61%. This is on the new settings provided using the Koonservative gov.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Logix:
soooooooooooooooooooooooooo final verdict on mpdecision with ktoonz gov is that its better to have it off because its built in ?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] GTOJim:
My take from reading about this subject, it's best to have it off. Reason being mpdecision can start up the second core unnecessarily, mw86 found he is able to fine tune things better with it off. He can probably give a much better detailed explanation than I can.

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mw 86 Any chance you could post a screen shot of the script your using to set KTweaker at boot using Rom Toolbox?

Thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] agentphantom:
it's right here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=35037830&postcount=315
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] GTOJim:
Thank you but that is the script for stopping mpdecision. I was asking about the script that starts KTweaker, a fix for restoring saved settings. When opening KTweaker a lot of us are getting a message the settings don't match. The script is a work around to fix the issue.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
If you do 50 post per page like I do its on page 6 on what to do in rom toolbox

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] GTOJim:
Thank you, I thought it was a script that needed to run.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Anytime brother

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Jim you summed it up fine nothing else to say about mpdecision but if you choose to go back to another governor that doesn't have a tunable that says hotplug in it... Disable that script from running at boot and reboot. Also you can start mpdecision without restarting by typing

su

Hit enter

start mpdecision

Hit enter

Close terminal.

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Im looking how to tune the second core governor now to make it more conservative. As is ive watched enough. Core two once on based on workload increases in 25% frequency step and drops in 25% frequency steps. Not controlled by the ktoonservative governor. It also uses 25% as the up and down threshold so as soon as a small 25% load registers on core two it raises frequency in a 25% increment of the available minimum and max frequency. For 96-2106 it jumps about 500mhz each step.

I want to read up on how that is tuned inside android via terminal commands echo command to where the file that controls core two is. Im hoping i can use a different up threshold and different frequency step.

Decimalman posted about it im looking through the threads.

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I was saying in rom toolbox go to kernel option then a tab over to the right set you governor settings like you prefer and check set at boot. Ktweaker loads at boot and romtoolbox hopefully sets your tunables back if they differed. After absolutely everything at boot loads check Ktweaker and it should be set right. If not you may have to turn the option in startup options in romtoolbox for romtoolbox to enabled for the one labeled for cpu at boot.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] GTOJim:
Thank you for going into detail regarding Romtoolbox. Galaxys3man30 pointed me in the right direction where it was briefly discussed. I remember reading it when it was first posted but didn't understand it at the time. It took awhile but I finally figured it out and it seems to be working. Guess my old age was showing, I'm one of the oldest farts you will find here on XDA. I'm sure the directions you posted for me will be very helpful to others.

What your diving into regarding tweaking the second core sounds very interesting. I hope you will keep us posted on your progress. I'm guessing that it's not going to be a simple endeavor, hope I'm wrong. If you need a tester I would be happy to lend a hand in anyway I can. I'm slower than you young guys, but then I probably have more spare time.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Cool glad its all working. No prob old farts are what i actually have respect for if you know what I mean. I did some chatting with freecharlesmanson and we will just have to go with the flow if you will on core twos behavior. Later ill talk more of how it works and also effects you may see using my tunables with it. Core two governor apparently is essentially programmed at the kernel and at a driver level though it shouldn't need to be in a driver and will not be modifiable without rewriting the entire way the make qualcomm drivers and such work, an endeavor likely to not happen. As is core two and one when active are governed by different parameters and despite my attempts on governor tunables will always ramp core two up through frequency nearing 20-25% load ie its up threshold for frequency must be about there and the mhz step in about 20% steps i figured wrong as 96-500-1000-1500-2100 are 20% jumps. Incidently up threshold and frequency step appear to be 20%. This makes core two like a turbo core which is meant to react very fast to load meaning when we enable it our cpus are actually more efficient than a lot of us were aware of. Since core one can be kept in check when based on ktoonservative tunables in governor turns core two on and figures where frequency is necessary to get workload down faster and whole time my tunables keep your first core consistent. Full load both cores max out frequency. Light load core one stays in general frequency range while core two balances the load with scaling. Its actually working out better than i imagined i think. Im trying to see the amount of latency it takes for core two to be turned on and off to set sample rate just the lowest i can while not hindering hotplug as for mhz scaling ive watched enough to see i dont get huge mhz spikes at 10100 sample rate but on 10000 i do. So if i add enough for time hotplug takes we should be good. So far its all seeming to working designed. Feel free to continue giving feedback.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] crazymook:
I disabled mpdecision yesterday but it almost seems like my battery is burning off faster. Phone has been off the charger for about 3 hours, 10 minutes of screen time. 5% burned off. Maybe it always does that and I just notice now b/c I changed a setting yesterday so I'm watching it more. I managed about 20 hours yesterday. With 3-4 hours of screen time. I'll watch how it does today and report back.

edit: just updated my gov settings to charliemanson's suggested ones for mpd off...see how the phone does now.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxys3man30:
Yea I noticed that to when I did it but went though a couple batt cycles n everything is good now

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Please come here to always have latest tunings we are working on. Feel free guys to monitor this thread but check here for quickly setting up tweaks and what we have been working on.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35101228

See here is our second discussion thread too.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35112153

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Let us know what seems to be happening as you observe more. My phone will drop 5% quick if i have my brightness over minimum and also cell service especially data effects it. Try when not using internet turning data and sync off. Even when not syncing its running too often and other services once they detect internet start themselves too.

Dont just check for qosmgr and the other check to see if media storage is scanning SD card excessively. If you need help finding when its running i can find my post in one of these ktoonservative discussion threads that i showed it running and what to end. Basically just go to settings, all apps, media storage and hit force stop. Excessive cpu usage should end. If force stop doesnt stay dark it means media storage is still being used and cant stop. Try to end a game or music in background and then try force stopping it again. Just a thought on excessive drain. My screen eats battery for breakfast, try having screen minimum but i recommend under minimum using this app from play store Lux Autobrightness as you can then when minimum is even high you can use less like while indoors reading in medium low light.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Hey guys would these wakelocks be common and nothing that shouldn't be running? Im on AOSP 4.1.2 in my signature

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
I thought mmc had to do with scanning the sd card. Came across this a while ago. Oh and do you have the connection optimizer on? Mine was on by mistake and I had that the connectivity wakelock

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809&page=248

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Nope on AOSP so the app doesn't exist. Media storage scans a lot. Hmm weird so that connectivity wake lock is not normal and caused by something?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
I noticed that when the connection optimizer was on I would get the connectivity wakelock. With it set to off I wouldn't get it at all. I don't understand the rilj, and I hardly get mmc detect. Maybe it's the media server. I run that kill media server app after I use any game or music or "media" so my mmc detect wakelock is minimal. I get a lot of scheduler alarms

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
Thank you for such great info! :)

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
For the life of me i can't find where i already posted these. For me these were 100% safe and kept phone cooler on the overclock speeds.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mw86:
I think i am getting better at this. I had 3 days + phone off charger and 8 1/2 hours screen on. This time 1 day plus and 11 hours screen on. This is a extended battery but i have never hidden that.

Using the settings in the Jelly Bean tweak thread we linked.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] castle_bravo:
11 hours screen time is outrageous

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