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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCreazy:
Since the nexus 4 is super cheap,I would think google would try to keep the orb cheap too. It would be silly to buy an accessory that costs 30% of the price of the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abe in space:
Pretty sure the poster was referring to all the complaints the guy had with the pad; gets really hot, noisy, angled yet slippery, very sensitive to specific placement. And keep in mind that's using a case, specifically designed by Energizer to charge with that mat, not just a random Qi-enabled device.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youareme7:
I really hope it doesn't take 6 months to get these charging orbs out; they made a pretty big deal about it when they announced so it would be a shame if I couldn't get one for ages. It sure does seem like Qi chargers are about to hit their stride and I hope we start seeing lots of 3rd party chargers available. I really want a universal car charger with Qi and hopefully high enough power to maintain the high drain of a phone with GPS and bluetooth and music running; that would be IDEAL!

Those rumored UK prices for the Nokia wireless chargers is absolutely bonkers. $100+ for a charger is ridiculous. I'd be really hard pressed to want to pay more than $60 for them; I'm still hoping that if all they are is chargers that they clock in at $50 or less; maybe I'm dreaming.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedh:
I pre ordered my nexus and got the orb free. The orb will be coming in December my network told me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyton01:
Seems to be some of these around - most likely manufacturing defect.

Contact Google and they will send you a replacement.

Hopefully next one will work better.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashkan_mc:
Are you serious ? I mean so what is the point of buying this device ? Why not connecting to usb charger cable directly ? What the use of this orb ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GorillaPimp:
Yeah it looks like those rings (or maybe the entire surface) were just dried out. Wiping it with a slightly damp cloth(while unplugged) seems to have it working.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyton01:
Do you remember - was the clear plastic protective layer stuck well to the rings when you took it out of the box?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ]grimm[:
Has anyone noticed that their phone stops charging when on the orb? Since yesterday, I've noticed two instances when I placed the phone on the orb and heard the charging chime only to return later to find that the phone had increased its battery charge but had stopped charging at some point (before completely charging.) The phone doesn't appear to have physically slipped, so I don't think that is the cause of the issue.

This appears to mimic experiences that people have had using other Qi certified chargers. Perhaps this is a heat-related issue? My phone does heat up quite a bit while charging on the orb.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superg81:
2 days of testing, no issues at all. Charges through my Seido case. Doesn't slip. Doesn't do anything weird as if it is possessed. Does what it was meant to do. No regrets
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GorillaPimp:
I don't recall how well it was on. It was on though. Everything in the box had a layer of light dust. Maybe from the box itself or the white insert. That could be the culprit. I remember having it on my hands but it didn't seem to be on the orb or the phone. I wiped the phone down before and after having issues.

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Good point. Its an easy oversight to make. I'll investigate nfc tags or tasker.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavin-phelan:
Hi all is there ANYWHERE to get the orv that ships worldwide as im in Ireland

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
I used my phone as a clock thru the night while charging on the dock, woke up to a burning phone and this graph! Wtf? Lol

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrHat001:
Really? It's surely not that complicated to grasp.

The orb remains plugged into the mains.

You put your phone on the orb and the phone charges ... hence the wireless part.

Basically it's a $60 device that saves you having to plug the usb cable into your phone when you want to charge it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exoten:
Watch the video at the end of this :

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/15/nexus-4-wireless-charger-a-quick-look-at-the-orb/

It seems to work pretty well with Rearth's cases.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gondoi:
In The Verge video of the Nexus 4 when they first talk about the inductive charging "dock", they reference it as such, a dock. Although, I'm confused because the phone only thinks it's just on a charger since it's just sticky not magnetic. This prevents Daydream mode from turning on (unless it's set to turn on with charge too). In this case, does the Nexus 4 hardware even support the ability to know it's on a dock? How would that be triggered if the only notification is charging. Without a magnet or some sort of proximity device, it will never know it's on a dock, and thus never support Daydream in dock mode.

Anyone know if I'm missing something?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashkan_mc:
I thought the orb is just a magnet and there is no need to plug it in the outlet and based on induced magnetic field, it can charge the phone. So 60 $ only for no plugging the cable ? Is it really worth it ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A2Eric:
Daydream/Night Mode

So I tried using Daydream last night while I slept for a clock while on the orb. With Night Mode enabled and Digital clock. What I don't like is the whole screen is dimly lit as well as the digital clock. I want just the numbers on the clock lit up, not the whole screen. On my Galaxy Nexus you could do this. It's not that it's too bright or anything but I don't like it! I wonder if there's an app that can fix this. Anyone know of an app or have tried the Night Mode and know what I'm talking about?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishtexmex:
I agree completely. My wireless charging orb also....

Wait, nevermind. I don't agree because your post has nothing to do with the charging orb at this point. YOU'RE RANTING. You got a defective charger, I get it, & it's perfectly fine for you to be upset. You deserve that right.

However, remember that this is the Wireless Charging Orb thread and that XDA throws a huge f*cking hissy fit when people make any new threads instead of tacking their posts on the end of the 974+ page "official" thread. And I say this because everyone just who A) Just got their Orb, or B) Would like to have some discussion with those new owners because they're interested and have questions of their own are coming to this thread to have that discussion. Instead, they have to sort through page after page of you saying the same thing. We all know that you got a defective product that doesn't work with your particular combination. And we also all know that the majority of people in this thread think that it's just fine for Google to make a product that is 100% compatible with their official products + compatible with some 3rd party ones.

Can we just---from here on forward---have relevant, product-related discourse? Thank you.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandenk0:
That may be due to just the differences in screen technology. The Galaxy Nexus has an amoled display rather than an LCD, which is able to turn off individual pixels, giving you true blacks. It would also mean in your situation only the numbers on the clock would have the pixels on, everything else would be turned off. Don't quote me on any of this but I'm pretty sure that's the reason you see a difference.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Nothing you can do about that, it's the LCD vs AMOLED thing rating it's head.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SnowBeer:
I got mine yesterday, I'm regretting jumping on the early bandwagon on this $60 charger.

First the 1.8A wall adapter from China doesn't work at all. The orb works, as I can use my other 1.2A LG wall adapter that came with the N4, and then it work (but perhaps slowly due to less current). I contacted google and they said they couldn't do anything, but I'd get an email in 24-48 hours. I found this odd, they sent me a defective product, but they have to wait 24-48 hours to have someone contact me to tell me how to send it back. Perhaps an enforced waiting period on new orders to avoid sending back fully functional units due to user error?

I have the poetic bumper case, and although I don't expect it to work with all 3rd party cases, it doesn't work because the poetic back side of the bumper is half a millimeter too thick compared to the raised center sticky section of the orb. Even getting it in the right place but offset away from the surface doesn't work unless it is absolutely perfectly placed. In landscape mode I can get it to stick "enough" by having it hit the table. Some very precise x-act-o knife work might fix this. I might give it a try and a defective poetic bumper case I have laying around.

Once google calls me back to tell me how to return it, I might try and find the LG one (I couldn't find it anywhere last time I tried) instead. I wish it wasn't angled personally.

Update: I took an exacto knife to a few of the edges of the poetic and shaved them down just in the "orb contact" area. Works fine now (except the 1.8A defective wall adapter), but looks like a semi-hack job on the case.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
Did your phone feel like it was burning when you woke up?

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarjar124:
Nope. I had mine near a window though so that's maybe why?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icecicle:
Mine when I had the picture tab daydream up felt super hot and didn't really charge too much either. I'm thinking because its using power to do the daydream and not getting enough power in
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
I used the daydream clock overnight. I woke up to it fully charged and it was cool as cucumber.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jameskk:
Got my ORB yesterday and the phone won't stay on it. It slides off after about 5 minutes. I've tried cleaning the phone back and orb sticky pads per the instructions but it still slides off every time. Any suggestions. This is a poorly designed product in my opinion.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
Damn.....mine was scorching hot and stayed charging at 85% ! I gonna try using the charger that came with the phone rather than the orb one, maybe that'll make a difference?? Hmm...my daydream doesn't start up either when I have it set on while charging! Oy...

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
Set daydream to "either." Daydream will start at the time you have your phone set to sleep.

The manual states to use the charger included. Its rated a bit higher. 1.8A.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
I reflashed my ROM, I remember I deleted daydream from system apps lol...my phone gets so hot! So odd...

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0micron:
I don't think there is anything you can do about this. The problem you're describing sounds like it's related to the difference in screen technology between the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4. The Galaxy Nexus uses SAMOLED which can turn on/off individual pixels so that blacks are completely black and only the numbers of the clock are lit. The Nexus 4 uses an IPS display which is backlit. The result is that it is difficult to get very true blacks, especially in low light because of light seepage, sorry. (by the way, I'm not diminishing the IPS display at all, this display is much better in outdoor light and with proper calibration has accurate colors, much better than my Galaxy Nexus)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icecicle:
The realest thing im worrying about with this orb is how I'm going to remove the dust from it cause it already has a few specks from 1 day and i couldn't get them off cause of the rubber on it . . and even in the lil manual it says if there's too much dust it's possible for the phone to slide off but it doesn't say how you take the dust off ! !
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3lover1:
Those that used the orb can you guys check better battery stats after allowing it be on standby for awhile? Mine after 5 hrs standby, 11 min screen on, have 0 min of deep sleep, phone awake for 5 hrs, with a kernel wakelock power manager service.wirelesschargerdetector for 5 hrs. So my phone was awake the whole time even though it was off the orb and screen off.

Any of you have the same thing?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcbboy:
I would think a microfiber cloth should do the trick but I can't say for sure. I just ordered mine yesterday.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sancus:
I don't have an orb yet but I've been using the lg wireless charger for months now. I just saw this same bug, over 12 hours of wirelesschargerdetector wakelock after taking my phone off the charger last night and having it on standby overnight.

I had never seen this until I updated to 4.2.2 so yay... New wakelock bug? These are starting to get ridiculous.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gissentml:
Here is my review with videos and pictures.

http://theultralinx.com/2013/02/google-nexus-4-official-wireless-charger-review.html
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3lover1:
OK so it's not just me. I was noticing the battery draining faster than normal with no use, then imagine my surprise when I see the phone not deep sleeping at all! :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznminivan:
you thought this orb would just generate power out of thin air?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A2Eric:
No but it wasn't charging when I checked it earlier (only at 50% from 26%) so I adjusted it and went back to sleep. A few hours later it was fully charged and not burning or even hot.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Anybody ever figure out what app they use for the picture of the phone on the orb in the play store?

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcbboy:
what? It's just google now.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3lover1:
Battery widget reborn
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facetubespam:
Mine slants a bit to the left, so it is great if I have the orb on the right side of me........but very disorienting when I have it on the left. I keep thinking I am losing my vision or something.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kentnish:
battery widget? reborn!

Is the app you're looking for...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GorillaPimp:
Clean the unplugged orb face with a damp lint-free cloth. I used a piece of thin cotton cloth that had almost no lint. Once I did that it worked great. All my microfiber cloths wouldn't have worked. They all hold a ton of lint even after washing.

I wouldn't say it's poorly designed but it is poorly documented. I also think for the money they could have thrown in builtin bluetooth and an audio jack, but as long as I can keep using it with other devices I'm not upset with the purchase.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] americasteam:
I for one hate plugging in the cable in the dark. Always afraid I'll scratch the front or back of my device. Not to mention, keeping up with the cable.

I also have the Lumia 920. It's so convenient to just place the phone on the charger when I lay down to sleep. Also, I don't have to worry about the cord yanking the phone out of my hand when checking my phone in the middle of the night.

It's not a necessity, but is a fantastic accessory to have.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facetubespam:
Get a couple of these bad boys set up next to the Orb and you'll have a 'wireless' party ready to go! Not to mention stylish too.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gotzaDroid:
I do not use daydream at all, kind of pointless when you want the room as dark as possible. But... I put my phone on the orb for almost 8 hours today. I woke up, the phone was still on the orb, the phone said charged and my phone was still cool to the touch.

For people having issues with not getting a full charge or heat, do you have apps running that are sucking the juice? Have any of you tried clearing out all the apps from the recent tray before charging? I think if you have an issue, it's up to you to do some trial and error first before posting for help. Too many unknowns to give a real answer until you can say, "this is what I've tried so far..."
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simer03:
My heat issues seem to be gone now, the weird thing is sometimes my phones battery isn't what it displays! When I reboot for example, I've lost like 10% ! Happened twice so far but not a big deal

Sent from my Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rainbow1112:
Does the Power Adapter use 110v - 240v? or only 110v?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
110-240
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
Seriously, its a great accessory and worth the cost given its a limited run item compared to the standard lg charge pad. That thing goes for more than $50 and this thing is only a bit more before tax and shipping. I'm a Google fan boy but I criticize when its due. I've had issues with every Google nexus phone other than my galaxy nexus. Gone through more RMA on the nexus s, n4, n7, and n10 that I want to admit. Hell, I even have two n4s that I have to ship back Monday after finally getting my n4 repaired right.

Having said that, this charger is great. I know for a fact that the lg pad will not charge the seidio active nor many other thicker cases. That this thing will charge through a ballistic or ionic case is pretty awesome. There IS a damn magnet in there by the way but I doubt its really there to hold the phone up. The rings do most of the work. I've tested it with the diz, another generic tpu, the official bumper, the rinke fusion, and naked and they all hold and charge. None slip or anything. I noticed as well that this thing seems to charge much better than the lg pad I have. Does it faster and seems to even charge at 95% or more which I often have trouble with the lg pad.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
does it charge slower with a case on? I can't get above 98% with my TPU case it seems.... I have the diztronic.

Anyone compared charge times with and without a case?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _ice_:
No issues so far poetic bumper only sticks in landscape mode. Also my phone gets hot sometimes, this is normal. Even when I use regular USB charger it happens. All of my previous smartphones, tablets did this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamshiwen:
you just need to let it sit on the charger longer. "Seems" to go into trickle charging much earlier than when it's directly plugged in, takes quite a bit of time for the last 4-6%. Probably just notice it since most of the time you leave it overnight charging and aren't constantly checking to see if it's at 100% charge.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
It will be cool, as the phone was fully charged hours ago, thus cooled down a long time ago. It only heats up when charging, and every phone will do it, it's a side effect of induction charging.

Simple physics :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cboy82:
Is there anywhere in the UK to buy the orb yet?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer(x):
Here in Italy i can only find it on eBay
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aMpeX:
by the way for those "complaining" about the phone not sleeping during charge, it's not a bug. When charging with your wallcharger you will get a wakelock named "pm8921 eoc"-something which is a wakelock held by the software affiliated witht he charging circuitry.

You can confirm this by using an app like BBS, reboot the phone before going to sleep and check the wakelocks recorded from the time of the last boot after getting up in the morning. You will realize that the phone didn't sleep the whole night either.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesebastian:
Do you need to enable NFC or some kind of technology on the phone in order to use this charger?

Because, for instance, i have NFC disabled and some other things too...to save battery.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SefEXE:
Nope. Just plop it on.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarjar124:
Does anyone's elses orb stop charging after reaching 100%?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DandroidT:
about heat issue, I have battery monitor widget and it showed average 40 degree Celsius up to 43.3 degree Celsious while charging. That is quite high. I just want to see if that is normal or not. thx
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesebastian:
Thanks!

I will consider buying it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyijedi:
What do people think are the chances of Google continuing to use the Qi standard with future Nexus phones? I got the orb for my office and I really like it, and would like one for my home too, but would hate to have 2 useless orbs when I get the next Nexus phone next year.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
What?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] munkybeatz:
Qi Standard = Good Thing!

Well it's hard to say with a new 'standard' whether or not it will hold out over a long run. However, due to the fact that this standard is an important one for the wireless phone industry, I believe that this standard will continue since there is no competing standard at the moment. Until there is a better alternative, I don't believe you have to worry about a new type of charger.

Plus, since all the largest wireless manufacturers have already signed on with the standard in it's beginning stages, it provides a good outlook.

Quote from Wikipedia Page:

IMHO, it's a good thing that a standard was introduced. Instead of all the companies vying to get crummy proprietary tech out the door with limited options, we'll see a new flood of more options and cheaper ones at that. :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jarjar124:
It stops charging after reaching 99%-100% and it sits there..I thought it would still charge even after reaching 100% like how a regular charger does...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manalf:
Mine gets up there if I leave daydream on, if I turn off daydream it's very cool with no issue. For now I'm just going to keep charging with daydream off just in case - I keep this next to my bed and I'd rather not die in my sleep :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M3ta7h3ad:
It does stop. To save over charging the battery.

Then when it drops to 97% charge it trickle charges back to 100%... Stops... Repeat ad infinitum.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyijedi:
Exactly. Are people concerned about battery degradation if using the orb to charge all the time? How bad is it for the battery for these continuous trickle charges?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M3ta7h3ad:
IMO it's better this way, continually charging a phone when its already at max capacity (the USB wall charger is not "smart" as far as I know) is bad. That said the above is based on only my opinion, I've no real idea which is better aside from my experience in charging other li-ion devices.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sashank:
From what I know, over-charging doesn't happen if you leave the phone plugged in all the time. That's the way we use laptops too, and they have similar batteries. The charger and phone both have charging protection circuitry which prevent the phone from ever over-charging. It works like this - phone charges to 100%, supply is cut off, the battery discharges a little, then charging starts again. This cycle keeps happening. Li-ion batteries unlike NiCd ones can be charged at any level and any number of times. There's no memory effect. So it doesn't affect the battery. The batteries will naturally degrade over time though like any other battery.

If I'm wrong, someone who knows better can please correct me.