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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blk_jack:
You never need to do a battery pull. Read up on how to hard shut off devices without removable batteries (like all tablets).

Every single device I've ever bought has been off contract and buying from Google is just like any other. My Nexus 7 is great, but while my Samsung Galaxy S III isn't Google, I run the exact same rom on it as I do on my n7. It was also quicker/easier to root and install a custom rom on my sgs3, plus it has 80gb internal storage (16gb+64gb, am using 42gb of that space as of this post) vs the extremely limited space on my n7.

There are more accessories for the sgs3 than the n7 and development wise roughly the same roms (maybe more if you count touchwiz).

Granted my sgs3 on Android 4.1.2 has a bug my nexus 7 doesn't have (which doesn't affect me), but still those possibilities are important to consider.

I guess my point is that passing on a non Google device for a nexus really isn't that obvious (to me anyway). I have more storage, faster network speeds, a removable battery (multiple ones even), and greater accessory selection. I use the same rom for both devices and both are unlocked and off contract. However, and this is a big deal for some people, I paid probably $200 more for my sgs3 than I would for the nexus 4.

Always consider the potential developer community but more importantly consider the manufacturer and the phone itself. Personally I've never had a good experience with LG hardware in the past, so if I were considering the n4 I would have to see tests and testimonials of people using it in real world situations, but there are some things that scare me just from what's been put out there already.

How fragile is that glass back? The one on the Optimus G broke within days on a reviewer who babied his device and had no idea how it happened.

Can the wireless charging work with a case? I know all phones with inductive charging currently can't..

Lastly, how bad on the battery is that new screen of theirs? The Optimus G (same screen) got a lot of criticism for its bad battery life and excessive screen drain. Without the ability to swap batteries I can see it being a deal breaker for some.

Those are just my personal thoughts and opinions based on the 5 android devices I've owned though. Time will ultimately tell. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riahc3:
No keyboard = no way

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If he isnt bright, then you are as dull as a rock: Its only avaliable on T-Mobile and cant be used 100% internationally.

Which means its a DOA.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heybobitsme:
Because I can't convince my wife that paying $700 for two 16GB is actually cheaper in the long run than getting on contract. She has it stuck in her head to never pay more than $200 a phone. She. Won't. Budge! She told me if I wanted to do that then I should get a credit card for it. I'm tempted.

To be fair though, I'm the only one working and make crap for pay. So a new phone isn't exactly high on her priority list.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TobiS87:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...e-bar-for-design-materials-and-build-quality/

I guess at least we dont have to worry about the build quality.

16 GB is enough for me. I do even have 2GB of space free on my 8GB SD Card in my DZ. Furthermore there is no LTE around my place so the N4 is the perfect device for me at this price point. Add the great hardware and updates just by google (ROMs just work and arent glitchy due to missing drivers) and I'm sold.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nospin:
I'm REALLY thinking about it.

The minute I hear good things about battery life I think I will pull the trigger.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GrievousMcG:
Over in Australia, it's $399 for a 16GB. Was considering getting a Motorola Razr M but that is being retailed at $600 per unit.

Hmm - might need to reconsider my decision....
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AppReviewBros:
I will wait for the reviews first, however, I am pretty sure I am going to buy it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mx03:
My desire z was a good friend, but now i need a more powerful smartphone.

The Nexus 4 looks awesome and the price: 349€ :good: (except the missing sd slot...).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soulcollector92:
when i heard that it was 300$ unlocked, i was like "OMG i'm definitely getting one!"

Then i heard that here in Italy it would cost 569€ off contract, as we can't get it from the play store.

I'm really disappointed.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PNuT.:
£280 here for the 16gb version
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarroyo:
I second that, No SD card support is the killer for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soulcollector92:
Does that price apply for common stores? Or is it an exclusive for the play store?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
That's the Google Play Store price. It will be more expensive if you buy a carrier's version from a regular retail store.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtmaster303:
Quite a few compromises you have to make for a Nexus device...

No micro sd, removable battery, or LTE. There are other devices with comparable specs in this price range.

Maybe not quad core, but i'd trade in 2 cores for the missing features above
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danow11:
Its odd what's important to different people. 42meg speed is plenty fast for me, i can't imagine what i would need more for. My current 14mrg does basically everything i need, Stream movies etc.

Also the removable storage. Its not like a micro sd card is convenient to use, and me personally i can't really imagine using more than 8gb of space. All my music comes from pandora
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C.Flat:
Nope. No removable battery and no microSD slot. Picked up a Galaxy Note 2
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blk_jack:
I disagree, a microsd is the equivalent of having another directory on your file system. Not only that but current versions of cm let you specify where you want to save your files to, and of course all media off the card is aggregated with your internal storage so there's no separation visually.

I have 80gb of storage on my sgs3, using over 40gb of that right now because not all people have unlimited data plans. Hell, my country doesn't even have unlimited data plans on the major telecoms, so it's not an option.

Also as someone who has both 42mBIT hspa+ and lte, I can tell you I don't get anywhere near 42mbit, so people should make sure their isps have typically decent speeds for their existing hspa+ users, especially if they plan on offsetting the lack of a microsd with streaming.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyraOfFire:
What I found on the G2 is that the network speed is not the bottleneck factor but rather the phone itself. Web page and such load painfully slow on the phone but they load rather fast on a tethered (fast) laptop.

HSDPA is not future-proof and you might feel like your phone is running on an outdated technology in 2014. But, in term of speed, you're unlikely to get more than 20-25 Mbps anytime soon. It is like you can buy a Bugatti, but you're not going to zip around at 400 km/h very often if at all.

So, I am contend with Nexus 4's HSDPA and my Accord.

In the other hand, the lack of microSD slot is kinda painful to swallow..... but for my case, I can live without microSD slot.

$300-unlocked is just unbeatable.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] burbs:
I'm heavily dependent on T-Mobile's WiFi calling app in my house, and when I found out that the device wouldn't have it, it was a sad moment for me to realize I couldn't be happy with the phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
Yes I will get one (dependent on reviews).

My Desire Z actually does everything I need it to, but just way too slowly.

Therefore the Nexus 4, even without 4g or mSD, will suit my needs perfectly.

Also, buying outright at that price is a no-brainer for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 邪恶小胖:
G2 is good enough for me
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UszekPL:
Maybe in 2013
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaczus:
Thought about it. Could even live without sdcard. But with battery life in smartphones these days I can't live without carrying a spare battery or two. As far as physical keyboard goes - I just don't use it anymore

I think I'm gonna go with used GS3 next
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lombardo8:
Got 1. These new phones are so sleek and fast.

Whats all this I hear about no LTE, SD card and removable battery?

My home broadband maxs out at about 5mbps so any phone that can give me up to a theoretical 42mbps is more than enough.

In 2 years, I never removed my 8GB SD card so I don't need removable storage. It may be important for people who need more space but I keep only the most important stuff on my phone, the rest is in the 'cloud' and on my external hard drive.

The only times I ever had to remove the battery on my DZ are the times it died and would refuse to come on. I am hoping I don't experience such on a high spec phone like the N4

The N4 is fantastic and I hope to get 2/3 years out of it
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nz_:
I will wait for another year until my warranty is over.

After that, I will see what the market has to offer, and if I would really need an upgrade or not at that time. (Maybe I get some tablet in the meantime, reducing the tasks my phone has to cope with to things it can currently handle - in that case, I wouldn't really need an upgrade).

Not too impressed with nexus 4 - it appears to be a device that forces us (consumers) to compromise (battery, SD card) - I'm not willing to support that path.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr_Bojangles:
avidapp largest

I'm all over this - when it get's back in stock anyway! I can live without an SD card and removable battery doesn't appeal to me really. Bring it on ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyraOfFire:
I hope it'll back in stock soon :D such a great phone and they sold it out in 26 minutes. What a shame!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwang:
Got a nexus 4 to replace my aging g2. Battery life has been surprisingly good.

If you are concerned about the non removable battery, don't be.

This is using faux123's custom kernel.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racing_md:
Just picked one up today after spamming the proceed button for about 45 minutes.... I look forward to the upgrade. I am not one to change phones like underwear. I usually keep them for a while. My first smart phone was the tmobile dash and upgraded to the G2 after it had been out for a little while. I now have to figure out how to function without wifi calling. I know I can use groove ip and google voice but it is an imperfect solution. My google voice number is not my main one and it doesn't address text messages. I guess it is a small price to pay for a great phone
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steven How:
Ur not using stock rom? And wat is the brightness level for that 5 hour

??
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gcalamaro:
I was really thinking to buy a Nexus 4 to pair my Nexus 7, and give some well deserved rest to my Desire Z, but here in Italy LG will sell the Nexus (maybe at dicember) at 549€ for the 16Gb version (710$!!!!).

No, thanks. Thanks, but no, thanks. :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyraOfFire:
maybe you could buy it off-ebay for cheaper?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gcalamaro:
Maybe, even if we are trying to understand if there may be some problem with the LG costumer service. Most people here think that LG Italy will accept for warranty service only the nexus4 bought in Italy (band we don't have the opportunity to buy it via Play Storie, as in the civilized world).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c00ller:
I bought it :)

now to play the waiting game =_=
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Isham.padron:
I would really love a Galaxy Nexus, wish google would continue selling them at a discounted price. I'm really not all that impressed with LG's offering but I would get one if it had a battery that was easily removable and upgradeable. Whats the deal with these tiny batteries? How do they expect internet age individuals to use these devices? More power requires more juice.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pure.noob:
I would recommend the one x+ , note 2 , or if you are on s budget than the LG nexus 4.

I'm my opinion Samsung has more features than HTC.... no offensive HTC fans. But it is true. I myself have used gs3 and I find touchwiz extremely awesome. But HTC would have the best homescreen

HTC - homescreen

Samsung - features

Nexus - will only be popular for 1 year. But awesome specs for that time.

No offensive but in my opinion its true.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Som3guy:
I actually think the Nexus smartphones have a longer popularity than other ones.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whistlerGreg:
I got one, hanging to get rid of my G2. I don't care what anyone says, running JB is NOT a good 'smooth' experience.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarroyo:
I'm a little confused, Can someone explain the 2GB of ram 16GB of internal storage thing?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
You may need to rephrase your question, are you asking what is the difference between ram and internal storage?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarroyo:
Not just the difference but what do they both mean? I know every device has ram, so what's internal storage used for?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PNuT.:
your elvis collection
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
Think of internal memory like your hard drive on your computer, you put your music, games, apps, docs, etc here

Ram is ready access memory, you don't put any thing here yourself but process will stay open here along with apps so they can load faster....

Umm... OK so you own a huge warehouse (internal memory) lots of things are kept here but it takes a while to fetch the stuff, you keep some real important thing you need to grab often on the shelf behind you, open boxes ready to go (ram) there isn't enough room on this shelf to keep everything you own, but you like to keep important things here rather than warehouse so you can get at it faster.....

I don't know if I'm clear, if not Google it, I'm sure someone could explain it better than me
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarroyo:
Very clear! thank you I get it now.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rutteger:
Was dead set on getting one but missed out on the initial 23 minute sale window here in the UK. Decided to reflash the DZ with an ICS ROM, certainly given it a new lease of life.

You can at least order a Nexus 4 from Play in the UK again now, although looks like the 8GB is OOS again and the 16GB has a 5-6 week wait.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PNuT.:
ram i think is random access memory & can be accessed in any order.... rather that other forms of storage which is accessed in order.... so something stored in ram can be accessed quicker
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Ordered one 1 minute after going back on sale again in the UK :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rutteger:
8GB or 16GB?

Wonder if and when they'll do a 32GB model.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moneybanks14:
Ordered one on Tuesday 4th with a 3-5 day delivery estimate but unfortunately i am one of those early 5.09pm purchasers that has heard nothing since day of purchase.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xT4Z1N4TRx:
16gb, but not heard a single word from google, so I don't even know when I will be getting it. Not impressed with the big G.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racing_md:
Well guys I have had my N4 for about a week now. As you can see from my post count I am more of a lurker and just like to soak up knowledge. In this case I think I can provide some insight for folks who are considering the change. This thing is a beast. No slow downs, multitasks like a champ and the screen is great. It is funny, my wife and I both had g2's and now when I pick hers up it looks so small! I have it just about set up the way I like. I am a customization whore so I have taken my time to see what works and what doesnt' on JB. I still had a gingerbread rom on my G2 because the ics roms were so buggy. I am rooted but stock for now. I have installed the "essential apps" like titanium backup, adaway, droidwall etc.

One of the biggest changes for me is the lack of wifi calling. It was a godsend for a few of my offices and my parents house. My work around is to use groove ip and google voice. I have created some tasker shortcuts to automate the process. When I am about to go into a building were I don't have coverage I use my forwarding shortcut that automatically forwards my cell number to the google voice number that is associated with groove ip. I then use my "wifi calling" short cut that activates airplane mode (so my battery doesn't get drained from constant searching), turns on wifi and starts and signs me into the groove ip app. When someone calls my number it is forwarded to the google voice number and then to my phone through groove ip. Sound quality is great on wifi. When I leave the building I toggle my "wifi calling" shortcut off and use the call forwarding shortcut to un-forward my number. Since no one has my google voice number I sent a text to important friends and family telling them to add the google voice number as an "other" number in their contacts because outgoing texts and calls will have the google voice number. That way they would know it was me if I called or texted and would respond. I told them to continue to use my normal cell number unless they were responding to a text from the google voice number.

I hope that will help any of you guys that were on the fence due to the lack of wifi calling. The phone is incredible and is as future proofed as any phone can be. Go ahead and take the leap. You won't be disappointed! I guess I need to change my sig!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xandermpls:
I am using a new (insurance =) G2, I purchased the Note-2 and am also awaiting the Nexus 4. I can't wait.

Btw if anyone wants to buy the G2, replaced the spring, and has a new 1800mugen, send me a message.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] twinsfan14:
So my phone just decides to keep restarting itself. I was running LiteRom 0.6 and it did it, and now I'm running CM10 with LiteKernel 2.0 and it's still doing it. It's only been happening for a few hours.

Also, wheen I'd hit the power button to put the screen to sleep, sometimes it wouldn't work. It would just give me the power menu, despite the fact that I just tapped the button.

My phone was dropped in water, but rice cured it. I'm thinking that must be a factor, right?

But anyways, what do I do?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] twinsfan14:
Again, nevermind. It wouldn't even turn on so I made an insurance claim. Hopefully the phone will be here by the weekend, but Hurricane Sandy could easily change that. Does anybody know how to unroot and flash stock?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] Rawr0w0:
use supersu to unroot and then flash stock...with a stock rom and gapps
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradman117:
TouchWiz Launcher ICS/JB

This is from SGS forum, Please give Thanks to froilson

Download

SGS Version TouchWiz---Download!

RemICS-JB Version--- Download

Instructions

Download

Boot Into Recovery (ICS/JB)

Flash zip!

Reboot!

SGS3 Weather Widget For JB ROMS

This is from SGS forum, Please give Thanks to Xami his Original Post!

Download

SGS3 Weather Widget--- Download

Instructions

Make sure You have at least 20MB of free space in system folder!

Download ZIP

Boot Into Recovery

Flash Zip

Reboot!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] GoSooners345:
Um dude you hijacked my thread

Sent from Bane's Phone
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradman117:
My bad man i can take it down. Ppl been asking me so i just posted a thread up not noticing urs. Ill lock thread
[Samsung Infuse 4G] GoSooners345:
Keep it Here of if it is updated. I just didn't expect it coming so fast

Sent from Bane's Phone
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bradman117:
I already requested it to be deleten and its all up to date just use my links or wut ever u want. Uv had ur thread a while
[Samsung Infuse 4G] GoSooners345:
Thanks brother :)

Sent from Bane's Phone
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Clark Joseph Kent:
Thread Closed as per OP request, Thank You
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
INTRODUCING TOUCHBEAN: A 4.1.2 BASED TOUCHWIZ ROM!

screenshot 1

screenshot 2

DOWNLOAD AT

http://d-h.st/kdp
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jacob66:
Cant see the screenshots. :(
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
They show up for me look at the links and see where they take you.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] pandaman21:
What's the bug list? This looks like a ROK that I might try.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] subnoize soulja:
Can you post some information about this ROM I can't see the screenshots either? By the title it seems like it would be a decent ROM but I need to know more about it please and thanks!!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] tlyondroid:
I will test it and possibly post some screen shots if it flashes
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] subnoize soulja:
Thanks
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
sory busy night :) the weather widget doesn't work other than that it is prety much stable but if you find anything let me know
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] androidforeve:
If someone tries it would love to see screen shots
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] tlyondroid:
First attempt at flashing failed it had a symlink error. Downloading again to retry.

Got it to work after a second full wipe.

There is no gapps. touchwiz launcher force closes often. looks like the touch wiz launcher over stock 4.1.2. It is fast for the most part though.

Screen shots to come...

After flashing AOKP's gapps the weather widget works and no more force close on the touchwiz launcher
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
really? i flashed it fine tell me if you have any more problems ill update the update script
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] androidforeve:
Just saw the 2 screen shots
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] tlyondroid:
Screen shots:)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
did you use a different update-script?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mikegleave13:
Are there touch wiz style notification toggles?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] tlyondroid:
it is working fine for me now that I flashed AOKP gapps even the weather widget is working

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no its stock 4.1.2 with a touchwiz launcher running over it.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
im working on a second version with more of what you want in it if that is something you other guys are interested in i can do.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] makatram:
does it come with S-voice and other samsung apps
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
no i am having a hard time finding the gs3 system dump
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
update tonight will have all the s-apps and hopefully a working system ui ported from the sgs3
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] tlyondroid:
Sounds great! can not wait to try!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
does anyone know how to install a systemui.apk ?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] pandaman21:
With the new build that is coming tonight can we dirty flash it over the last build.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lamaboy99:
I am hoping so but you may have to wipe the system partition first
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] css911:
Just Download the 4.1.2 Gapps and flash it. Removed that annoying bug when you hit the home button to return to the home screen.