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[Nexus 4 General] rourouni815:
this is what ive been looking for. Still buying the phone but if the dac is bad buying the 8gb instead of 16, and buying a new Media player
[Nexus 4 General] roughavoc:
Wait, you're selling your S3 because of the audio. Am I right in saying the only other device to give better sounding audio is the Galaxy S1?
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
Or....iPhone. Android users are kind of stuck with "bad"audio from what I've seen/read.
[Nexus 4 General] Lt.Tealc:
my brother has the original galaxy great sound every time it rings or plays music it,s fantastic i gave it to him so i can by the S3 and now i F*** envy him......... best Galaxy ever............... if u owned G-nexus how is the audio on it compare to GS1
[Nexus 4 General] tuffCookie:
if the Nexus 4 audio is the same as Optimus G, then here ya go straight from GSMArena.com:

"...the LG Optimus G with some of the cleanest output we have seen. The below average volume levels aside, the Optimus G results came out excellent in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the smartphone produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever."

for more details around the sound test, go here and scroll down to the "Audio output is nicely clean, if somewhat quiet" section.
[Nexus 4 General] bradsh1:
dynamic range and noise leave something to be desired. i think all this means is that the device doesnt go very loud. they probably capped the volume in favor of low THD
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
Can't be any worse then the GS3. MY i9300 volume is weak.
[Nexus 4 General] tuffCookie:
comparison GSMArena did between SGS3 and the Optimus G:

"Both the Samsung Galaxy S III and the LG Optimus G posted some excellent scores in our audio quality test. The Galaxy S III output is generally a bit cleaner, but the difference is a bit hard to detect with a naked ear. The two are also quite evenly matched, when it comes to volume levels too - sadly neither of them is particularly impressive in that aspect. If we had to pick we'd give the Galaxy S III the win here, but no matter which one you choose, you'd be getting pretty good audio output."

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_g_vs_samsung_galaxy_s_iii-review-838p8.php
[Nexus 4 General] jay_993:
Having used Voodoo Sound from day one of release until now, and as a sound tinkering audiophile, what I would need most is basically the equivalent to voodoo louder, ability to amp it up and down since if that's used well it doubles clarity and soundstage by getting the perfect output which matches your cans.
[Nexus 4 General] metze.b:
Nexus 4 I believe is a mindblowing handset.

Only doubt I have is about the audio-quality.

I'm in between the Iphone5, HTC One X+ and the N4.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/iphone-vs-rivals-audio-tests/

What do you think, the quality could be somewhere near the good tested devices from engadget?
[Nexus 4 General] Jasonhunterx:
Whatever the Galaxy S1 line had they need to use that mixed with voodoo sound control simply amazing
[Nexus 4 General] scottspa74:
So it brothers you that you have to have your volume at 75% when in loud locales. ? Most ridiculous post I've possibly ever seen on xda.

hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
Not loud locales, normal shopping center environments. That's with Klipshe S4 headphones that do a decent job of blocking out sound too. Even the S2 was better at volume from the headphone jack.
[Nexus 4 General] catlog:
I've had my nexus 4 for a day now, the sound isn't bad, just mediocre.
[Nexus 4 General] dcdttu:
S4i, S4a, S4. Whatever one you want. The S4a wasn't available when I purchased my pair, but the app that goes with it is nice, I bet.

As for UE's being bass heavy, that's what the poster requested. I, too, prefer a good amount of bass in my headphones, and these are by far the best for that I've found since V-Moda ruined their offerings.
[Nexus 4 General] il buono:
The UE's are good but durability wise they have disappointed me in the past with the UE 500 and 600. None of those two lasted me more than 6 months under regular use coming out of the pocket. That's just my experience though. Sennheiser is what I'm currently using and the same earphones (ie 6) have lasted me 2 years already. Love the sound and bass.
[Nexus 4 General] dcdttu:
Agreed about the durability of the UE's. But at least they have a very hassle-free 2 year warranty. I just get them replaced cause I can't find anything else that sounds as good or is as bass-rich.

I really miss my Vibe and Bass Freq from V-Moda. The first generation ones were incredible.
[Nexus 4 General] The Gingerbread Man:
My klipsch s4a sound great and I use the comply tx 100 tips which block almost all external noice :cool: just with they were a little louder but clarity is great and a good balanced sound, so it should costing me about £80 all in all :eek:

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] BaronInkjet:
Anyone figure how why the GSMarena frequency response chart is so different than the Anandtech/Supercurio one? The N4 I had was in line with the Supercurio chart, with excessive treble falloff. Perhaps I got a bad one. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I use exactly the same for a couple years now (well I bought the s4a after I lost my original s4). Hard to beat for the price and the comply tips are fantastic.
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
The gsmarena chart has a big dropoff in the high frequency too. Seems boosting treble doesn't help a lot, but boosting the 31hz helps the bass out some.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
How do I get the headphone jack to put out more power? It is a lot quieter than any other device I own.
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
when i listen to music from my nexus 4 using bluetooth to my car stereo. i notice my music sounds like it is poor quality. it sounds a bit better through the head phone jack to my aux. but then the sound is much quieter then through bluetooth.
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
Sony mw600 stereo Bluetooth receiver FTW!

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Why is it so damn quiet??
[Nexus 4 General] reaperzero:
High five fellow ckm55 user. The newer model is the ckm500
[Nexus 4 General] rickykemp:
I'm using Denon AHD-1100s with PlayerPro, flat EQ with the DSP pack and a bit extra on the gain, and they sound amazing. Really nice sound separation, and really nice tight bass, with a balanced mid. The treble takes care of itself, if its FLAC its nice, but a but lacking on the MP3 320.
[Nexus 4 General] syednehal79:
I am using x louder mod for sound enhancements.it also come with noozy music player...it's brilliant....
[Nexus 4 General] reaperzero:
Alesandro MS1i and ATH-AD300 sound awesome. my set up is paired with power amp and x louder mod, im using the Nooxoide audio enhancement... beats audio makes my head hurt >_>

also the xperia sound mod is great for vocals
[Nexus 4 General] Franklin Bernard:
Even I am going to try the MOD!!
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
idk why it is so damn quiet. but bluetooth comes out much louder ive noticed. but for some reason the audio quality sounds like crap. i compared to my gf's htc one s with the same song and it sounds way better with her phone using bluetooth. i have a Sony Model: MEXBT3000P head unit in my car. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+...606&skuId=4611353&st=sony head unit&cp=1&lp=9

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i use this head unit in my car http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+...606&skuId=4611353&st=sony head unit&cp=1&lp=9
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
Yeah, I totally agree. I've heard a few people on the forums say there are no issues with BT, but they're obviously not hearing the random pops, and artifacts that I'm hearing. To me, it's like I took FLAC and transcoded it to a 128kbps MP3 and played it over BT -- I can hear artifacts, especially when there are a lot of cymbals. It's hard to describe, but I don't notice this problem on my Galaxy Nexus, or HTC Jewel. It bothers me, but it's not a deal breaker. It's very subtle, but it's definitely noticeable.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I hope the 4.2.2 update will fix our audio problems.
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
yep i hear the same thing you do. i listen to hardcore music and i definitely hear the cymbals sounding like crap. i hope they fix that issue.
[Nexus 4 General] techmatlock:
I can't drive my ath-m50s; I'm using DSPManager.
[Nexus 4 General] xdafann:
Using my v-moda crossfade lp2 I notice the same sound quality as with the Galaxy Nexus. Nothing breathtaking . it's sad I had some good expectations.
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
are you setting the Bluetooth volume on your phone to the highest ?
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
I make sure its not turned up all the way but it still sounds like crap.
[Nexus 4 General] ninjames:
So what do I need to do to get my Fiio 17 working with my Nexus 4? I'm rooted and that's it. Can anybody guide me into what I'd need? Will it use the Fiio as an amp + DAC or just an amp? I want to be able to use the E17 EQ setting if possible. Is there a cable I need to buy? Or is this not at all possible?

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] Tanker01:
I just received my N4. I'm fond of music, and the quality is a important point.

I did few tests with my headphones (Focal Spirit One, very efficient and near 700$ Sony according to musiciens friends)

With the stock Google Play Music, and FLAC 16bit 44100hz (on the N4, not on Google Music ...) it's very bad... I had a Galaxy Nexus before, it was almost the same.

Although, I tried Neutron Player and ... that's now almost perfect ! I have a 13" Macbook Pro, with good audio quality, and the equalization is the only difference. More bass on N4, but also very clear (Volume 13). I'm impressed :)
[Nexus 4 General] Lazy Rich:
AW: Official Sound Quality Thread

I'm using Poweramp and my Sony MDR-XB 700 Headphones and wow...this sound comes very very close to my beloved SGS1 with Voodoo Sound.

I was a bit concerned before I bought the N4, but it really sounds great with the right settings.

×××[ Nexus 7 || Angry AOKP || Motley Kernel ]×××
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
I'm genuinely gobsmacked... Everything from Com Truise to Opeth sounds great coming out of the Nexus 4. I'd never even plugged my IEMs into it before today, fearing it would be another massive disappointment like every Android device I've owned bar the Atrix. If anything, the output is just as good but with none of the audible hiss that tends to accompany high volumes on that device. I'm so glad I bricked my One X! (never thought I'd say that...)

Now I just wish I had a 128GB N4. lol.
[Nexus 4 General] stuart0001:
I think the reduction in hiss is due to the high roll off of high frequencies unfortunately.
[Nexus 4 General] Azurael:
I'm not noticing anything missing.... Unlike with my One X, where the 16kHz end of the EQ did nothing, at least with my BA100s... Seemed like a terrible impedance mismatch.
[Nexus 4 General] Tanker01:
Neutron Player do a great job, pretty close to my (at volume 13) Mac. But it's impossible with the battery : almost

10% drop in 5minutes

... So impossible for me to use this ! For example, when I watch a movie (Mx Player) after, no battery drain, even with with screen on...
[Nexus 4 General] nokkenas:
Anyone else finds the speaker output volume is quite low? I was coming from Blackberries and older Nokias and I think their speaker produces loud sound. I just want an opinion, not a brand war.
[Nexus 4 General] jutezak:
I think the speaker is tinny, but not quiet. Obviously not a big speaker box inside, but there may also be gains to be had with better software/EQ/predistortion. My SGS was better.

Old Nokias are thick and have bige cameras and speakers. Those are the good bits of Nokia :0

but for a real soft sound try the HTC Sensation XE. Really quiet, you just do not hear it ring.
[Nexus 4 General] smorgy:
I came from HTC Desire HD and thought that was quiet!

The Nexus is too quiet and I'm looking for a way to improve the output level.

As for output to headphones I'm using the Koss DJ Pro 200's and the whole output is lacking bass! I have spent quite a bit of time trying to get a realistic sound using Google's play music and found the best equalizer to be Jazz with the bass turned up 2/3rds and the 3d effect just on slightly.

At least with the Nexus you don't get any distortion like you do with the HTC when turned right up (yes this is form the phone and not from headphones being too loud).
[Nexus 4 General] nokkenas:
I'd sacrifice the thinness for speaker sound quality and volume any time. Sometimes I miss notification or phone calls... and alarms are not so annoyingly loud :laugh:

Great to hear that I'm not the only one who finds it tinny/low.
[Nexus 4 General] ruzkay:
AW: Official Sound Quality Thread

The noontec zoro's go very well with the Nexus 4.

Don't get fooled by the appearance, you can thank me later.
[Nexus 4 General] smorgy:
Really?

headphones are quiet for me but the speaker is insanely loud! my GF could hear my phone the other side of a large busy pub.

My ringtone is Guiles theme from Street Fighter...
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
My headphone jack is fine when I have headphones plugged in, but when I use it with my car system or my Bose 901s it its very quiet. As for the speaker, I could care less because I always have it on vibrate and never play music through the phone's speaker.
[Nexus 4 General] dimi22:
Hey, Got my n4 since one day. Right now i am trying some mp3. most of them dance hardstyle. and i must say the quality suprises me!! I use google music app no equalizers and just some 320 mp3's

i came from a s3 that sound was very good in my opinion especially with siyah kernel, this is not beating the s3 but its very clear!!!!

super surprising for me!
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
When I bought my nexus 4, it was to replace my nexus s, which was my mp3 player, first and fore-most. I decided to get a 16gb because I'm moving from unlimited data with good coverage to 5gb data with slightly lower coverage. I'm so glad I did, because my N4 sounds just as good, if not a little better, than my NS and I'd be really disappointed if I'd gotten the 8gb with how much music I like to store on my devices!! This is a wonderful device for anyone who wants to get rid of their good quality mp3 player in favor of a phone with good quality.

Honestly, if you'd asked me a year ago if I'd ever consider buying an LG Nexus, I'd have laughed.
[Nexus 4 General] StanRex:
I have to say I'm quite a bit disappointed after what I had read concerning the good SQ of the Nexus 4.

It's way better than my old Nexus One, clearly (on the other hand the N1 was just terrible so not hard to do better ......)

But compared to a good setup I feel as if the basses are completely muffling the sound :( I'm using Shure SE510 phones, which are pretty high end. I used to listen to those on an iPod Classic + Meier Headsix amp, which sounded excellent, so maybe the comparison isn't fair. Still, can't help but feel a little disappointed, I suppose I'll have to try EQing.
[Nexus 4 General] Solutions Etcetera:
Here are two audio files. One of them is a snippet of a rip from a SACD. The other is the same rip, copied to and played back from the Nexus 4's headphone jack.

Even though one is straight digital, and the other is D-A-D, curious how many of you can correctly identify the original. It is a pretty clean recording so it should be easy. :cool:

Take A

Take B
[Nexus 4 General] dcdttu:
Put one on my Galaxy Nexus and one on my Nexus 4, play both on the Aux of my car and I could easily tell the difference: The N4 audio is the one I can't hear without turning the car's volume all the way up.
[Nexus 4 General] Solutions Etcetera:
How does output gain have anything to do with quality?
[Nexus 4 General] dcdttu:
You asking me, or the dozens of people that posted on this thread about the output volume being low?

But I see your point. Just a little let down about the output volume of the headphone jack.
[Nexus 4 General] BizzaBoy:
Got a quick question. I am re-ripping some of my CD collection (to FLAC this time), and wondering while doing that in what format to encode the music on my N4.

I'm using PowerAMP, and currently HE-AAC @ 64k. I tried HE-AAC @ 128k and AAC-LC @ 128k, but for my life, I cannot hear any real differences. Any suggestions what to check out for differences, so that one could see the value of a different encoding ?

Ah, I tried Headphones (some in-ear, some better quality ones), and a Stereo (some good old Arcam Preamp/Amp combo with B&W CDM7se speaker ;)). Would have though I'd be able to hear some big differences ...

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And yet another question. The WDC9310 does not support 44.1kHz natively. Would it make sense to upconvert to 48kHz or 96kHz before encoding to AAC ?
[Nexus 4 General] leader288:
A's the SACD rip and B's the N4's? :confused:

I'm using my 2007 MBP's speakers to hear it btw
[Nexus 4 General] Solutions Etcetera:
How could you possibly make that determination using those speakers? :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Cm10.1 fixes the blue tooth audio quality issue
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
FYI, i tested the BT Audio quality with the latest CM nightly in my car tonight and it is MUCH MUCH better =) Cymbals are crisp!
[Nexus 4 General] s10shane:
Does it show the track info yet? I really miss that feature.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
I'm not sure because I have never seen track information on my cars nav screen before when using bluetooth
[Nexus 4 General] BizzaBoy:
Nope. Just tested while dropping the kids at school ;-(
[Nexus 4 General] briandresstoyota:
audio headphone boost

hey guys. back when i had g2x there was voodoo audio to boost the db output from the headphone jack. worked pretty amazing. shouldnt there be something like that for nexus 4?
[Nexus 4 General] sdb13:
Don't think it's as simple as that, I think it will be a case of Google fixing unless someone can come up with something comprehensive.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Faux123 is close to finishing an app that boosts headphone output
[Nexus 4 General] Tarun95:
I don't understand why some people say n4 has bad headphone audio. I got the jbl earphones which costs only 20$ and its damn good :) It is damn loud and clear with proper bass.
[Nexus 4 General] jarjar124:
Well franco just released a kernel that supports volume boost through headphones :P
[Nexus 4 General] sdb13:
Is there a thread for Faux's app? And the N4 headphone output is bad, the volume is lower than other phones. Even the basic Optimus L3 I had had louder volume.
[Nexus 4 General] leader288:
Was I right? One of the tracks sounded a compressed.
[Nexus 4 General] Solutions Etcetera:
I am afraid not.
[Nexus 4 General] Adikbzik:
Odp: Official Sound Quality Thread

With Nexus Louder MOD sound is more than great.
[Nexus 4 General] bayarea757:
I'm coming from SGS2 t-989. I had custom rom installed with dsp manager. Head phones jvc fx3x. Sound was amazing. Very loud, great bass I mean it really hit. Now with the same head phones and nexus 4 sound is loud and very clean but you just hear the bass not feel it. I have played with the stock equalizer which I was happy to see. But that stock equalizer sucks I turn up the lower hz and it dulls the higher hz. I Played with it for over 10 minutes and couldn't get close to the bass I had before. I didn't really want to root my phone. Since I can't customize like ii used to and the sound is performing like I want in going to look into rooting. If bass Isn't an issue then over I would say the nexus 4 speakers and sound is a 7.5/10
[Nexus 4 General] tiru.adi13:
How good is the output of the nexus 4? Will it be able to power headphones with an impedance >16 ohms? I've heard its good enough for earphones and iem's..... b ur what about full-sized headphones like the dt770's?
[Nexus 4 General] iamhacked:
I have Sennheiser HD25-1 II and I actually think the sound quality of this phone is better than my Fiio E10 DAC/amp. Tight bass, crisp treble, wide soundstage.
[Nexus 4 General] tiru.adi13:
That's a good sign! If the nexus 4 can sufficiently power the HD 25's then it should have enough power for my AKG K518 :D
[Nexus 4 General] cst4you:
lineout is great

speaker more then suck:(
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
Compared to my Galaxy S3 the speaker is waay better IMO. Sounds are crisp and loud.

Haven't tried the line out yet, will try that later this evening and report back.
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
I think with some mods it will be awesome , nonetheless stock is pretty loud
[Nexus 4 General] tiru.adi13:
Nexus 4 and optimus g have same DAC supposedly and the s3 beats the optimus g line out (gsmarena) so I guess while the nexus 4's speaker is better the s3's DAC is better....
[Nexus 4 General] techmatlock:
Has anybody experimented with all the volume boosters, equalizers, dsp's out there? I use franco's headphone volume boost in conjunction with DSP manager. I'm moderately impressed by the sound enhancement, but wanted to know if anyone has better results. In DSP manager I set: bass moderate, equalizer treble boost, loudness compensation stronger, headset virtual room effect studio, and franco's headphone volume boost is set to 20.
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Check out "FauxSound Audio/Sound Control"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamkang.fauxsound
[Nexus 4 General] bobdoblo:
Great thread:thumbup::)

Have any of you guys tried any of these Viper & Noozxoide

They're very, very good!

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[Nexus 4 General] bobdoblo:
What's happened to the thread, where is everyone?

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[Nexus 4 General] tiru.adi13:
Nexuslouder on 4.2.2vs 4.3 update- any thoughts?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] bobdoblo:
Shameless bump! :p

Nobody like good sound quality?

Try the Viper or Noozxoide apps i posted in the links above, the difference is quite amazing and unlike any other DSP type app.

What do you think of them?

Any Head/earphones recommendations?

Any great tunes/pieces of music/demos that are good for testing?

Yamaha chip v Wolfson chip thoughts/findings?

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[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Do they work on nexus 4 and 4.3?
[Nexus 4 General] bobdoblo:
Viper doesn't work on 4.3 at the minute which is a pity as its without doubt the best audio mod available on Android.

It would be worth flashing a 4.2 ROM just to have it if you think music is important:thumbup::)

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[Nexus 4 General] ksdubya:
I use the Nexus louder mod, which is amazing for audio on headphones and through the external speaker.

HOWEVER, in call audio when using the phone up against your face, like on a normal phone call, I can't hear a thing. I have to put my phone on speakerphone just to hear the other person somewhat clearly and then speakerphone seems to distort. I don't even like having phone conversations anymore because of this reason alone. Anyone have any ideas or fixes for that?

EDIT: I'm still on 4.2.2 using PA 3.69 and Franco 165 with the .84 radio
[Nexus 4 General] bobdoblo:
I don't have any experience of Nexus but do you have a kernel for it that uses STweaks app

You can turn it up in the Stweaks settings.

Alternatively you can use ALSA Mixer

app, but you will have to set it on every boot unfortunately until if/when it gets an update;)

Sent from my brain
[Nexus 4 General] lbingham:
So what are some of the settings you change with Alsa?

Do you know if it will affect the Alsa settings using A2DP? I use a Raspberry Pi for my A2DP in my car and house and it was a pain getting those settings just right.
[Nexus 4 General] bobdoblo:
I can't remember to tell you the truth buddy, its a while since i used it and i know it can be quite daunting at first with all the settings.

Just a case of playing about with it.

Careful with master volume though, anything over 82 is in speaker blowing territory :eek:;)

I will ask a friend who knows more when hes online:thumbup:

Sent from my brain
[Nexus 4 General] electricsheepdreamer:
Hey there, AFAIR, it doesn't affect A2DP.

I played with it for a while, used it only for a bit of master gain but couldn't keep settings after reboot so abandoned it in the end.