yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Ok let's compare it to the Galaxy S2 on release with Android 2.3.3 back then, 4.0.3 was even worse in some aspects.

I know those issues because I bought it on release.

1- sucks cam sensor (check) - no zero shutter lag, red dot, zoomed in with 1080p

2 - CPU and gpu overheating (check) - back then and even now, if you stress it with eg benchmarking it gets veeeerrry hot at the back. Some users even reported shutdowns because of it, at least no thermal throttling right ;)

This more or less is now solved with custom Kernels, will be the same on N4.

3- high price (check) - at least the N4 has a possibility to buy it for less

4 - crappy battery (check) - my phone was completely empty after 8h, got better after some updates, custom roms+kernels could later on achieve 2-3 days. All depends on deep sleep and personal use.

Should be the same for N4, and 2100mah > 1600mah.

5- glass back - ok you got this one :cyclops:

6-crappy DAC (ckeck) - Yamaha, don't need to say more.

We don't even know what supercurio is meaning with this tweet you quoted, but it can't be worse than on the S2

7. I will add more :D

- Slow updates

- I guess no updates after Jellybean

- No dev support with sources

- broken released Kernel sources

- Super Brick Bug on official Firmware + in sources, still not fixed

- screen Burn in

- yellow left side on screen some people reported

- Touchwiz :D if you count the glass back, I count Touchwiz

So as you see, the S2 wasn't better on release, even way worse, but most problems were solved with Software updates, I expect the same on the N4.

If not from Google than sure as hell from the Community, and why would you buy a Nexus if you don't want to use custom Roms + Kernels?

I for one will use CM10.1 right after it will be released, think they will need 1-2 weeks at most...
[Galaxy S II General] dhruvil007:
Google Experience

I really want to try out the android google wanted:cyclops it to be. Ive triend a htc, samsung, sony, lg. Googles next now ;)
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
WOW u got me

LOL :laugh::laugh:

edit : BTW #7 add http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33818076&postcount=128

damn Google really disappointing me :( :(
[Galaxy S II General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Responses in bold:

The fact that the SGS2 was a best in class release when it came out tells you it was great. The N4 comes out in a time when APple hasn't offered an 8gb/16gb configuration since the iPhone 3G launch. All other phones came out 16/32gb configuration. The 8gb models were budget models released the year after.

I think that's a HUGE disadvantage fo the LG Nexus.

I'm not saying it' sa bad buy. At $299 or $349 it's a steal, but in a time when standards have risen since the SGS2 launch, they could've done better. The SGS2 knocked it out of the ball park back then, but standards have changed.
[Galaxy S II General] durangatang:
If they release a 32gb version and after it has been out for a few months I will think about getting one, but still keep my GS2. Good (not great, not terrible) hardware combined with Google updates is hard to beat. Is it too much to ask for something like the GS3, but in a nexus device? Nexus device with removable battery and sd slot, high end specs for everything including storage, camera sensor, LTE? At least it is quad core with 2gb RAM and nice screen.
[Galaxy S II General] 666fff:
ordered successfully! Can't wait to sell my crappy sgs2!!!! N4 arriving in one day!!!
[Galaxy S II General] mike_kenji:
1st World Problems
[Galaxy S II General] Codrea:
:good::good: that's cool
[Galaxy S II General] r3dn1t3:
This phone does everything I want it to do in any possible way. No reason for me to upgrade.

Would like 4.2 though.
[Galaxy S II General] Duplexity:
I would love to get the new nexus...if I had money! :o
[Galaxy S II General] Reno29:
XD, I'm really thinking the same

Enviado desde mi GT-I9100 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S II General] augustofretes:
I'm moving as soon as there's stock again. I don't understand some complains here, the camera could be better, but the camera in SGS2 is in no way better.

Thermal throttling can be solved by merely changing the default values, but even with thermal throttling the Nexus 4 destroys the SGS2, and no Android phone outclasses it.

It has the fastest CPU, a decent GPU (nobody matches Apple in this regard), an amazing screen, decent camera, great design, great build quality, wireless charging, is a Nexus meaning updates are guaranteed for around 2 years, and it's $350, granted, a $400 version with 32 GB would've been cool, but that's hardly a deal breaker.

Battery Life? It's better than SGS2's, which isn't hard to accomplish.
[Galaxy S II General] MaKTaiL:
I decided to get a PS Vita instead. The S2 is pretty good still for the things I do.
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Yes you got valid points there.

I'm also holding on on buying the N4, know its not even clear if it will be ever fully in AOSP.

Maybe if I wait long enough they will announce the 32GB version :D
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
With the arrival of the JB leak, who's staying? :)
[Galaxy S II General] bartoloandre98:
Crappy? i think you set the bar too high my friend

Seriously?That thing is faster then my laptop....Where are the days when you looked like a coolio having a nokia 3310 playing snakes on it?
[Galaxy S II General] abhi2889:
Previously i was very sure that i would definitely buy nexus 4 but after jb leak for s2 and less availability of nexus 4, i am considering to stay with my s2... :)
[Galaxy S II General] xonix7:
I would love to get the new nexus
[Galaxy S II General] NanoSurfer:
I would practically give my left nut for a Nexus 4 but sadly it wont be sold in my country via Play Store and also via the carriers here :crying:

BUT

if you guys head over to the Nexus 4 Q&A forum, there seems to be some concerning issues regarding build quality etc,

Check it out, http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1909 and have a look through the pages at some of the issues others are having.

I'm sure its an awesome device and probably most issues are related to user ignorance or something but at the end of the day, it does alarm me and I wont rush into buying one yet. If you are keen to get one, maybe hold out a bit and see what other are experiencing.

For me, I'm very happy with my S2 at the moment. Does everything I want plus more.
[Galaxy S II General] GalaxyGusta:
Actually after the new jelly bean rom I love my s2 its completely reborn
[Galaxy S II General] Nikueltrasgu:
Voted no

LG + 16GB is more than laughable...

I'd rather have another crapwiz instead of buying LG.
[Galaxy S II General] NanoSurfer:
+1 bro :good:

Why on earth Google went for LG is beyond me :confused:

I still want one because it is a Nexus but I'm not impressed that its made by LG :rolleyes:

Also only 16Gb, no external storage and no removable battery!? Come on, they are practically saying that this is a disposable phone!! Once you run out of space, and then what? Battery packs up, and then what?? :eek:

I'm not really impressed by all this, the only saving grace is that its a Nexus device and if I had the opportunity to get it, I probably would still, providing I could get it at the relatively cheap pricing they are selling them for.

EDIT: I'm sure some smart ass will say "Just transfer stuff over to PC to free up space etc, etc..." but at the end of the day, if you have a gazillion apps that you don't want to delete then you are screwed! Some games in the Play Store are a gig or more now, and a lot of apps are getting bigger and bigger. Anyway, no external storage sucks
[Galaxy S II General] Nikueltrasgu:
Most of the space is generally used for music...

I do believe that google wants us to buy the 16gb version instead of the 8gb version and then promote their "import 20000 of your music library to google play using music manager" promoting by the way cloud music storage, google music, forcing people to buy music on google play and increase their library on the cloud space with the money they saved on a 300€ naked phone (money for them, not for LG)

i do believe the nexus 4 is kind of made to be used on high speed network with unlimited bandwidth with everything on the cloud (picasa/google+ for pictures, drive for documents, contacts on gmail, music on google music, same for films (maybe, never bought one on playstore) and nothing on the phone except games and normal apps which aren't supposed to be bigger than 16gb)

google might be thinking that a phone isn't a device used to play music (due to the average sound card) like an excellent music player and shouldn't be supposed to be filled with tons of .FLAC or more that 10k music that you generaly don't listen (don't flame me, i'm one of those :cyclops:)

A nexus phone is built the way google wants it to be, which means sticking with their vision of what would be a mobile device nowadays, some people agree, some don't
[Galaxy S II General] superleeds27:
Still tempted to upgrade to the Samsung Galaxy Nexus if i could get one cheapish
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
This thread is about upgrading to Nexus 4 :rolleyes:

I'm personally skipping Google N4 and sticking with my S2 for now. Let's see how the next Nexus in 2013 turns out to be in terms of s/w update and h/w performance. :)
[Galaxy S II General] superleeds27:
Hmm. I thought about both Nexus phones, then relised when the JB update comes, hopefully asap, the phone will probably be just as good performance wise.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
If S2 got stuck on ICS I would have thought of N4 or something else but I apart from pure Android experience I don't see any other reason to go for N4

The leaked rom on S2 is major upgrade in terms of features and performance. JB on SGS2 will stop people from switching and wait for SGS4 release.
[Galaxy S II General] Jeremy:
Aren't there supposed to be more than 1 nexus phone?
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
We'll postpone that rumor for Next Nexus launch in 2013 :D
[Galaxy S II General] ditech50:
Waiting for the Galaxy S4 with Exynos 5450.

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Any benchmarks for the Nexus 4??
[Galaxy S II General] jaykresge:
The original Wall Street Journal article from May never said that there would be multiple Nexus phones, only that there would be about 5 Nexus devices from different manufacturers sold on Google Play in the fall. If you look at Google Play right now, there are in fact 5 devices for sale;

-Nexus 4 (LG)

-Nexus 7 (Asus)

-Nexus 10 (Samsung)

-C7 Chromebook (Acer)

-Chromebook (Samsung)

https://play.google.com/store/devices?feature=corpus_selector

There was also supposed to be the Nexus Q, but that got pulled due to feedback (Google hasn't announced if they will relaunch it or abandon it). There was also an assumption that Google would continue to sell the Galaxy Nexus (and thus, have two concurrent smartphones). Give Google's desire to sell the Nexus 4 at $299-$349, that's not a possibility. SOCs don't get much cheaper, they simply get replaced. The OMAP4 used in the Galaxy Nexus isn't significantly cheaper than Snapdragon S4 Pro used in the Nexus 4. Selling the Galaxy Nexus would have only continued to make sense if it had remained at $349, and then the Nexus 4 sold higher than that.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
I don't want to disappoint you ;)
[Galaxy S II General] downwiththebanksters:
Like many here 16GB is simply too small after having 64GB ... which has been almost full since I got the phone. The only thing making me think about the N4 is the LCD screen as my S2 screen has really started to degrade, especially at the top notification bar. There is a really strong blue band now along the top edge when reading white background on low brightness. This also keeps me away from the S3. I hope the N4 price is reasonable outside the dying empire too. A US350$-ish price would take some of the sting of anemic storage out of the equation.
[Galaxy S II General] shiahzy:
Ditto. Using my S2 well and havent had a real need to change other than temptations.

In any case, shall wait for more reviews first.
[Galaxy S II General] ArmorD:
Maybe soon. I still find Note 2 very tempting due to the huge screen :p

Anyhow, N4 is so cheap its probably gonna be my new big boy :o

Sent from my premium potato
[Galaxy S II General] Scohol:
Not upgrading to anything untill my s2 catches fire or explodes.
[Galaxy S II General] ludorexmundi:
:D lol same as you :cool:
[Galaxy S II General] chronosk:
I have to be honest I hate LG phones so I'm sticking with my S2

Sent from my Paranoid i9100
[Galaxy S II General] lesp4ul:
I used Optimus Black before S2, it was a good phone but have a ****ty software, worse than Sammy rom.

Google won't sell N4 for $300 in Indonesia, and with recent rumor LG will sell this phone unsubsidized for $600++ so i will definitely skip and stick with S2
[Galaxy S II General] DryGoldfish:
Tempted but may stay with S2 until the price comes down
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
No signs of stocks coming back as well :( I had so much planned for this phone but thankfully I didn't sell my s2 in advance

I guess till then I'll have to use chameleon ROM to feed my aosp hunger
[Galaxy S II General] germanj:
I highly doubt it will come down. I can almost guarantee it won't. The price is already rock bottom!

I personally don't know if I will upgrade. There seem to be a lot of quality issues showing up on the N4 boards. But on paper, the N4 seems ideal. The best hardware and software out there for half the price, new and unlocked.

I'm running AOKP JB on my i9100 and its just blazing fast and as close to stock as it gets for a non nexus device. I remember when I bought it and it came with Gingerbread. With the kind of dev support that the S2 has received so far it feels like an entire different device than when I first bought it (thanks devs!).

I will sell my s2 to a friend who didn't believe android phones could be as snappy as I've configured mine to be, for a good amount, but only when I am able to compare the upcoming S4 to the N4. This timeframe will also allow for manufacturing tweaks. As with every product launch, the next batches made usually differ in manufacturing process when compared to initial launch so as to fix possible faults detected along the way.

Needless to say, the S2 was a deal breaker when it first launched with a dual core and big screen, so it was future proofed back then and proved to be an awesome purchase!
[Galaxy S II General] jvardon:
Not sure, want to upgrade so I can keep ontop of android updates but maybe I should do that when Key Lime Pie Comes out since the S2 is getting Jelly Bean. I don't really want anything over 4.3 or the size of the S2 so the Nexus 4 is actually a little too big for me but there aren't very many options for me with that limited size. Looking at getting the HTC One S or the Xiaomi MI-2 or the Meizu MX2, if those develop problems though there is will be much more limited support so I'm unsure. Any ideas?
[Galaxy S II General] Testraindrop:
Man I already wanted to jump the boat as all developers are also getting the N4 :laugh: but its still not available here in Germany :(

But its nice to see that codeworkx and Entropy are also going to get the N4, Sven Daw already has it :D

The development on this device will be awesome :D
[Galaxy S II General] mjpado:
Just order mine yesterday. Going with the StraightTalk $45 plan. I have been using ST for over two years now. Great service since I have a CDMA lg l55c phone it uses the Verizon network. Their coverage is very good. A little uneasy about switching to at&t SIM. I have read at&t is the way to go instead of T-Mobile. We'll see what happens in 2-3 weeks when my N4 arrives.
[Galaxy S II General] omergohan:
Sold my s2 around October 29 in excitement for the release of the nexus 4 got a decent $290 for the phone +$25 sd card +$20 accessories. Been rocking a blackberry bold 9780 since and can't stress enough how much of a downgrade that was. I managed to get an order in but was back ordered. My n4 finally arriving Friday though so I will let you guys know if it was worth the upgrade.

Can't believe how much phones have changed and how much they affect our lives. Only two years ago I was using a Sony erricson w580i which could do nothing in comparison to the s2.
[Galaxy S II General] mrtnthrsn:
I want it... want it... bad!

But, I can't :crying:

I am really tempted, but I've only had my Galxy S II for about 4 months and it's to soon to upgrade. I have grown to really like this phone, and think it can last until the next Nexus is out. On the other hand I do miss the vanilla experience... and I want JellyBean - NOW! :D
[Galaxy S II General] superleeds27:
Back in stock in Uk.

Purchased one. Have 8/9 months left on my contract. Gives me something to use in the mean time :)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
I was trying to flash MIUI ROM but when i rebooted it didn't boot....I restarted but still stuck at HTC logo... I then took out the battery waited for some time then without wasting any time I put it back and voila it started on by itself but still no luck it didn't booted so I removed the battery again trying to go into the bootloader but I can't because as soon as I pip in the battery it boots in the rom so I don't have a chance to press volume down and power!!! Then I got scared my phone is semi bricked and I Thought let's make the op a bit confusing shhhh I changed the title but remember... So I tried again and again with many different angles of the battery but it still didn't work so any help guys??

Any command to save my phone with I can give using adb??
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Hpsgill:
simple type adb

u will get list of all commands with their uses
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
I tried again it didn't help

Please help guys
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Hpsgill:
...........
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
Can't get you?!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] thewisenerd:
edit:

Your board might be short-circuting, if it was the worse case.

Does your ROM boot? NO? Well, it is struck at boot anim.

When you switch on the phone, try to switch it off again.

If you are not able to switch it off, then press the power-vol_up-vol_down keys together. The phone will get reset.

See if then you can switch it off.

If neither works, press down the volume button and power button. Then, insert battery. If it boots, then, it will have to go to the menu from where you can get to the recovery.

If all of this doesn't work, take your phone to service center, and say "Sorry, I rooted my device, but cant go into recovery. can you help me?" and add "I think it is only a hardware problem. not software, bcoz the phone isn't booting at all" :)

P.S:

If you have already flashed MIUI ROM, you would have the configuration files left on your SD Card. So, If you try to flash MIUI, it will get struck at boot anim (personal experience). Try connecting the card to computer, and then delete any folder named MIUI. It is usually only one folder.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] #define:
This thread is for those spammers, scammers and intentional trouble makers..
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Hpsgill:
I am joking maaaaan!!!;);)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
this is how Ju**** Bi****'s (if u know what i mean :p ) Recovery would look ;D
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] monishvster:
Who are the guys who studied or are studying in KV??

Kv'ans rocks!!!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] LiVeRpOoL-FaN:
Dear Father Christmas

I`ve been a good lad this year, please can you send me a wooden jigsaw, wooden rocking horse, jenga, a bike (no stabilisers) a new pair of slippers, smoking jacket and pipe....oh before i forget a new 600 series nvidia card (any will do) i7 intel processor and some more RAM.......i think thats it........thx :D
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] bulletproof136:
New EA game release (most wanted), :D

It's awesome :beer:

Check out in play store those who didn't see yet :p
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] thippesh:
Hey in off topic

Off topic z allowed? ^_^ :) :D
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Xzan23:
Heyy nice idea for the thread Shadow Code..

but if you expect people to come all the way here to post 'hey Deferas plz plz plz upload sense4 rom, i havent gone to the toilet since the day u released it'.... its not gonna happen... people will continue to Spam..

We need 3-4 active moderators who just own Htc explorer so they can concentrate on this forum alone..

ill contact the admin regarding this matter after my papers are over... i wana volunteer (i have 1.5 years of moderating experience)

And now ON TOPIC: You might aswell rename this thread to 'JOKES'...coz im gona BOMBARD this thread with jokes soon..

Trust me...they will be offensive, vulgar...but They will crack u open from laughter :P

BRACE YOURSELVES :cowboy:
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
Has anyone played max Payne mobile ....?
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
Then u may go to comedy circus, XDA is the wrong place may b :D :D

Lol kiding :p
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] zgintasz:
Guys, you must stay on topic - do offtopic. If you stay off topic(do not post offtopic posts), it's like doing offtopic on ontopic thread :D.

wtf, logic error...
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Xzan23:
are u tawkin about the indian show comedy circus...its honestly the worst comedy show on earth..sometimes they may make u laugh...but its utter crap for me :P

anybody here watches american or british tv series?
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] rockingmanish:
Anybdy watch shows of Russell Peters.....if not Juz see once
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] monishvster:
Saw 2-3 shows online. He insults or uses everyone sitting in the audience.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Xzan23:
yeaaa man EPIC GUY!!absolute comedy legend
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] :
hmm.......how about Family Guy (probably the best that Seth McFarlan has created, not that keen on American Dad)

Mock The Week (british topical comedy TV panel show) funny as f*ck, can watch it on BBC 2 or on Dave..check it out
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] #define:
Family Guy I've seen.. Some of the funniest stuff.. Idiotic, but thats what makes it funny.. I love the kid on that show.. Forgot his name..

Steve, is it??

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I watch the more "geeky" shows.. Like The Big Bang theory, Scrubs..

Then there's the Legen--wait for it-- Dary!! Barney Stinson from How I met Your Mother..
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] zgintasz:
Yeah, it's Steve, I love him too :D.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] :
lol, its Stewie "wheres my money b*tch, wheres my money"
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] #define:
Yes!! Stewie and Brian..

I like his accent.. But he speaks too much for a 1 yr old.. :P
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] NEXUSBOY:
Oppa is Gangnam style

Oppa is Gangnam style, Gangnam style

Oppa is Gangnam style, Gangnam style
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] zgintasz:
Yeah, I still remember that episode :D!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc05wjMHnOo
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] poyensa:
All right, will give an oportunity to this off-topic thread. Please follow the forum rules: no flame, no personal/racial attacks, no political and/or religious discussions, etc. Please use common sense, and enjoy ;)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
Thread reopened guys enjoy!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Gladiator00:
Wish I could get Asphlat 5, 6, 7 working for my Pico =S
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
They work for me, on this pico:p
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] #define:
Same here.. most wanted wrks too..
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] DanceOff:
Hey what is xda app-developers app??
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] #define:
Itz the free version of the xda app...
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Gladiator00:
Can you tell me where you got it from and how to make it work .. i tried but it FCed everytime

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I NEED *_*
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] poyensa:
Guys guys guys .... wil you be 24hs without breaking the forum rules?

Thread cleaned and re-opened. Please follow the forum rules
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] #define:
Sry sir... i only meant it as a joke.. will not happen again.. rest assured.. :beer:
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] R. SAINT:
Hey guys m noob in off topic..

Can ny tell me hw to fix/ flash/ install off topic..

Btw thanx for spreading knowledge abt off topic... :what:

:eek: :D

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As u wish SIR... :D