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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xordo:
Based on the X-Ray images or based on other information?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TotalBS:
How long did you have the phone on the charger? I get that wakelock, but it usually coincides with approximately the same amount of time it's on the charger. From the screen shot it looks like you're at 70% but the wakelock is for 7 hours. Now you could have had the phone off the charger for 7 hours, but if you've had it off for less then that wakelock is triggered while the phone is on the charger. Maybe try to get another screen shot a little later and see if that wakelock increases. For me it doesn't
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Based on the fact that it is not magnetic, not even brand new. There is a very, very slight electromagnetism caused by the charging coil but its not enough to hold metal. There is metal in there that will respond to magnets (as well as metal in the phone) but the securing mechanism is definitely a soft rubber suction effect.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
From there: "- since childhood every kid knows what something magnetic and pulling feels like."

It feels like two things stuck together. If one really learned something about magnets in childhood, it would be that it goes through a piece of regular paper. He could have saved himself a whole lot of unnecessary testing if he just put a dry paper between the two.

"Lots of heat", is pretty relative. Come on, it took me like less than a minute to find this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature. It's not even close. Most of those are several times hotter than boiling water.

Also, the material the Orb uses to stick to the glass back of the phone is used in many products nowadays, it notably loses its stickiness with time due to dust accumulation. Cleaning it with water should fix it. It really is much more simple than that post makes it out to be.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkShot666:
Quick question for those Canadians or anyone else who did, has anyone received any word from Puremobile?

I just noticed I've been charged for it, yet they say they expect to receive their orbs around April and I've got no email from them.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
How much is the Orb in the Google Playstore in the US? including shipping?

I could get a friend to buy one in the US and ship it to the UK but then how much would shipping to UK be? Would it be worth it?

Hmmm decisions!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadvich:
I would say not. It's 70 dollars to ship somewhere in the US, then what, another 10 dollars to the UK? Not worth it considering there are good third party choices out there.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafu6:
Thanks for the info now just to find an alternative in the UK.. eBay Amazon here I come, of course after a search on the XDA Forums :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
Just as my experience its still the best option far and away, as long as you can justify the cost. I had some disposable income so I tried out some of the 3rd party options and they have quirks. I wouldn't trust any of them to reliably charge the phone overnight, just daytime topping off.

The orb is the only one I've used so far with a real margin for error on alignment and secures the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdh007:
I did a live chat session with PureMobile and they said "the deadline is by the end of the month but we expect to receive stock a little sooner".

I don't think it's a charge, they've just processed a pre-authorization (freeze on the funds) on our cards. I'm guessing it's because the original authorization expired and a new one is good for 30 days.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
What the hell are Google doing.... Making them 100 at a time and selling them? At this rate will be Christmas before the UK gets a whiff of the orb..... Look what you could have had...

Mega fail!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
I'm pretty sure that LG is making them. They made mine anyway. I'm not sure I want to keep it, though. It's annoying getting spammed like hell with charging not charging - charging - not charging when the phone gets over 95%.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
At least you have an opinion man.. And yeah I'm aware LG will probably make them as they make the phone too...

Int
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
Yeah, I see your point about being nice to be able to make an opinion. You blamed Google for the production issues, I was pointing out they don't produce it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
Yeah mate... Should have said Google only seem to order a few at a time...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
I'm not impressed with the orb at all. Mine doesn't slip, but the phone gets hot as hell and it trickle charges like crazy at 91% and it has even stopped reporting that it was charging. BBS for instance said the phone had 9 hours left to charge when the phone was at 94% and it constantly cycles between charging and not charging. I used the N4 wall charger and it showed a straight charge, not a trickle. Also, sometimes the screen will shut off on the orb and sometimes it won't. I've just found too many minor annoyances to want to keep this at the 70 dollar cost.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmyjoebob:
Mine would charge, then slowly drain the battery overnight, it wouldn't keep topped up, in a zero signal area.

Going back because of this, if the crazy un-friendly design wasn't enough.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
Yeah, I just called Google to get a return shipping label for a refund. The technology has a ways to go before I will have further interest in it. I'm looking forward to not getting second degree burns when I pick my phone off of the charger. Now, if only I can find the OEM wall charger that came with the phone, I'd buy 2 more of those.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
Weird. Every morning when I pick mine up off the orb, it's 100% charged and not even unusually warm. Maybe it has something to do with signal strength, as jimmyjoebob mentioned having no signal. I have an okay signal in the location I charge it, maybe 3 bars.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Same here, not sure where people come up with some of this stuff lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
I usually have 2 bars at home and 3-4 in the office. It really does get hot enough to feel the heat just by holding your hand close to phone while it's charging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xordo:
On mobile ATM so don't have links handy.

But there was a guy on Android central that had both Nexus and a second phone with Qi battery pack "stick" to the Orb through a sheet of waxed paper.

Clearly not just suction at play.

Mine out of box all but lept out of my hand to stick to the orb. That's also not possible purely based on suction.

Maybe plastic magnets. Maybe some residual magnetic charge from the Qi coil. And clearly not all Orbs are exhibiting same behavior.

Also note with ferrite magnets its not the ultimate temperature that demagnetizess but key is gradual heating in an isolated environment.

Who knows.

Too bad rather than arguing, insulting, trying to prove whos the smartest,

we could instead be curious as to what explains all the various reports.

Beyond all that I do agree with those displeased with the heat aspect and overall execution.

For me I have had much better luck and less heat with the Energizer Qi mat.

To those saying their Nexus is not hot in morning.

That's cuz it already cooled down.

Try to touch the screen when its between 85% - 90% charged. That's when I noticed it being the hottest.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
Yeah, I'm just making it up because I need attention. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
It just occurred to me, I have Daydream turned off. I wonder if that has any effect on charging and/or heat while charging?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
The majority of the heat is simply a side effect of inductive charging, can't do anything about that.

I'd imagine that running a daydream would cause a little extra heat, and it will definitely mean a longer charge time, since screen on = drain.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minnemike:
I knew it! :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Question regarding Daydream.

When the option comes up of when to daydream, you have two options

- When docked

- When charging

But it seems the wireless charging orb doesn't register as a dock? It won't daydream unless I select "When Charging." Correct?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverRubicon:
I've had to set my Nexus 7 to 'both' for DayDream to work (when docked). This is different to how it worked prior to 4.2.2. Maybe the Nexus 4 is similar, but simply selecting "when charging" should do the trick.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Well considering the Orb is a charger and not a dock...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wx27:
I turned off daydream and my Battery Monitor Widget reports that the phone reached a peak temp of 109 degrees when it passed through 84% charge. Having the screen on while charging generally raises the overall temperature profile, though it seems very hit or miss. Some nights the phone hovers around 105-110 degrees throughout most of the charge, others don't exceed 100.

I just sent my orb back and am waiting for a replacement. Will do tests with a new orb before use, though in another forum someone did a paper clip test with a sheet of paper with their new orb and had no magnetic attraction.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Snuper:
I just got my orb around two days ago including the phone and on the second charge overnight I noticed that the phone did not charge up to 100% and it only reached 99%. I will try again when the phone needs to be charged and see if it reaches 100% using the orb.

(Has anyone thought that maybe the orb may only charge the phone to 99% due to safety issues?)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
well there are people spreading misinformation everywhere...

anyway maybe I'm alone but I'd like my nexus to daydream when I set it on my wireless charger at home when I go to sleep at night, but not when I need to do say an emergency charge at work with my usb cable. It would be nice if the daydream conditions could discern between charging conditions.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PickleHead:
With my ballistic case, my phone won't charge unless daydream mode is off.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akhan47:
Patiently waiting for this to become available in the UK...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
hmmm, maybe tasker and some nfc tags?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zxcv106106:
I have the same problem. I "turn off" the phone while charging on orb. Last time, when the battery indicate Full, I discharge the phone from orb and

I was having only 92%.

The next time, I let it charge extra hour upon full. I discharge it, and it was on 99.

Today, I will give it a two hours extra charging. Hope it can hit the 100% meter. will report back =]

---------- Post added at 05:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:50 AM ----------

The orb do charge the phone to 100%. I gave it an extra 1:15 charging time.

and it's 100% when I turn on the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deeco7:
Bloody been waiting for this **** to be available in the UK for too long. :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
Yup and no sign of that changing anytime soon...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheHeeyyy:
I've been using the wireless charging orb for a couple of days now. As a charger I have had no issues with it. I have had no slippage issues, and my Nexus 4 is fully charged when I take it off. However, as a dock I have had multiple issues, and they are all related to using Daydream as a clock.

First, the orb is not recognized by the phone as a dock, so you have to set-up Daydream to activate when charging.

Second, you cannot set-up your phone to enter Daydream mode immediately when placed on the orb, so you have to leave your phone on until it goes to sleep for Daydream to be activated.

Third, if you place the phone horizontally on the orb, Daydream will still be activated in portrait mode, so you need to be in an application or settings page in landscape mode before Daydream is activated for the clock to be displayed in landscape mode.

Fourth, I put Daydream to night mode (dimmer screen), but the screen would randomly exit night mode and brighten the screen before going dimmer again.

Fifth, after a period of time the phone's screen will completely turn off, and I don't think I have gotten past an hour before that has happened.

I may be able to avoid these issues by finding a different clock app to use, but I never had these issues using the stock clock with my Nexus S on the Nexus S dock. I am also disappointing that the Nexus 4's display can't go fully black like my Nexus S could, but I recognize that is a hardware limitation rather than software (LCD backlight vs AMOLED display).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
For the last time it's NOT A Dock it's a charger.!! Jezz
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheHeeyyy:
Google might have backtracked on calling it a dock, but it was clearly designed to work as a dock. Why else would it have a diagonal plane? Google employee Matias Duarte referred to it as a dock when he unveiled the orb during his Nexus 4 interview for The Verge.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
Yourself and verge (whoever they are) are wrong it's a charger man, end of lol

Int
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickedynick:
The Verge is one of the most respected tech sites on the internet, and Matias Duarte is the man behind most of Android's design since ICS. I'd say that they have some authority on these matters between them.

That said, it clearly only acts as a charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SefEXE:
My orb's been good. I got it around when the first batch shipped, I think.

At first I had no problems with a case on or off, but I haven noticed something now. The phone has started to slip with no case on. At first it would just charge, then stop, charge, then stop, etc. Then I realized my phone was touching the table and not charging.

It works just fine with my case on though. Which is good, because I actually really enjoy my Ringke Fusion.

Soo... nothing really important here, but I just wanted to voice my experience.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redthunda69:
I'm pretty sure Matias just meant that it was a charging dock and nothing more.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Techno79:
Isn't a dock recognised as such by a magnet in a specific location which triggers a magnetic sensor on the phone? If this is the case then perhaps a slim magnet could be stuck onto the Orb to trigger said sensor on the N4 and then fool it into thinking it is a dock? (Assuming the magnet doesn't interfere with the wireless charging functionality. Just a thought!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobdude:
Not always. Previous nexus was pogo pins.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snapper.fishes:
I have never seen a dock that uses magnets.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
My LG O2X would put itself into car dock mode when you applied a magnet to the right part of the phone. The official car dock did have a magnet as well.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ritalinnz:
I know it's a charger and not a dock, but when I charge via the cable (i.e. charging...) the daydream stays on, which is what I want. The orb is advertised as a charger for bedside use, but I don't see the point if the daydream/clock switches off after an hour or so. Do other people not use their phone as a bedside clock? Unless I'm doing something wrong and someone can tell me how to keep the daydream going over night I have to go back to cable charge my phone, which is a shame cause its a cool accessory.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryan stewart:
The palm touchstone did this. Sadly it doesn't look like ours has any function built in for that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
I just hope these are compliant with future phone's. I hate buying accessories for one device that are so expensive. Just like micro hdmi, then mhl, now slim port. Not that those cables are expensive, but you get the point.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
Boo this kinda sucks :( so actually we have semi wireless charging then, you charge the phone with no cables but the orb base has cables :'( it sounds like a gimmick indeed
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
It is, I don't see that it's worth the price tag you see on most of the bases. All it saves you is the 3 seconds to plug and unplug your phone, maybe a case could be made for reduced usb port and cable wear, and I would be interested in the effects of the lower voltage/slower charging on battery long term lifetime. But as far as I know the only certain advantage is saving you the time to plug and unplug it. If it came with the phone or if it was only $15-20 I'd use it, but if it's >$50, there's much better things to spend it on. Like the extra 8GB, or a case and screen protector.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Capt.PP:
I'm planning to buy Google's Orb inductive charging if it's 30 bucks. Anything more is just over price and I have the feeling Qi group is going to lose to A4WP of Samsung's group.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vido.ardes:
I have had my phone for 18 months and the USB port has broken twice. USB wear and tear is a real problem.

I woudl hope that Google's crusade into showing the tech industry how cheap phones can be extends to it's accessories. As a user said above, it seems quite stupid if the phone is £240, and the dock is 1/4 of that price. If buying 4 docks = new phone, they have missed the point.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Ouch, what phone? Please say Samsung, wanna throw this at the anti-LG, samsung phanboi who wrote the article based on a picture. I've gone through cables a couple, discovered the Evo 3D is very tough to brick, had the cable short out in the middle of running rEVOlutionary during the HBOOT patch. I'm on an SGS4G right now, I have noticed my usb port has preferred positions now, so I can definitely see the point.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vido.ardes:
No it's a HTC Incredible S. The rest of the phone is rock solid, dropped it more times than I can remember and not had a single other issue, but the little pcb connector inside the port bends and slowly looses the ability to make contact.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carterra3:
I am planning on getting the energizer pad that is Qi standard and attempting to mount one in my desk and one in my night stand... Hopefully a thin bit of wood won't prevent transfer.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anirudh412:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/06/att-windows-phone-pricing/

Inductive Pad is sold free with the 920. Maybe we start seeing them on eBay and Amazon soon. Cant imagine them costing more than 30-40. Plus they come in lots of funky colors
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youareme7:
I hope you're not trollin and that's the real deal. That would be awesome for them to come right out at a reasonable price! I get more excited about the N4 every day, I really hope they actually come out next week; the nexus 7 pre-orders were a nightmare.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
I think the real problem with micro USB chargers is the difference in voltage.

I have a 500 MV charger for my Bluetooth.

1 volt charger for my phone

2 volt charger for my galaxy tab 2

5 volt charger for my playbook.

I once stuck the playbook charger inn my phone on accident, and nearly fried it,.battery starts has never been the same.

I am interested at the rating for which our phones would charge on the orb.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Makaijin:
How can you get different voltage USB chargers? USB specs dictate it to be 5 volts. Unless you're talking about amps. A 5 amp charger won't blow up your phone as the ampage isn't pushed to your phone, it is pulled from the charger by your phone. Meaning even if you had a 10 amp charger, if your phone can only draw (pull) 1 amp then thats all it gets.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
I still find it very weird,

We have no release date announcements for the orb, we don't even have a price.

Even tech sites who have contacts, know nothing!

With release day being next week, this doesn't look good.....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznminivan:
yeah even in the announcement video that the verge did, they never actually used it, they just showed it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jt.61:
Thats what the google rep told me when I asked him specifically about it. He said he has to look it up and that it what he found regarding price.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
apologies, you are correct, I meant amps.(posted before coffee)

And I doublechecked, the pb charger is actually 1.8 amps, the quick charger, which runs on pins, not micro USB, is 5 amps, I think.

Either way, using the pb charger made my phone super hot, and fudged my battery stats.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I'm probably going to get a wireless charging accessory. 1 because I've never seen a phone wirelessly charge and 2. since it'll be much more of a convenience rather than always plugging in and damaging the connector.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
I want to get a fatboy pillow to charge up my N4 :P
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adidas007:
The wireless charger can be first charges using the cable, and then the orb can be taken anywhere, just placing the phone on the top of the orb will charge the phone. it seems completely useless if its not free.

1) Inductive charging is always slow

2) portable charges are available nowdays, which can charge all the androids, bb, ipods, iphones... these are easily available for 20 - 30 $
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I believe you are mistaken. The Orb will need to be plugged in at all times for it to charge the phone. We'll know for sure when it's released though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Did you try setting under Developer Options, Stay awake?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CSX321:
That won't work due to a bug in the Developer options code. However, if you have root access, you can accomplish the same thing by opening a terminal window (on the phone), and typing:

su

svc power stayon true

(Hit enter after each of those lines, of course.)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ritalinnz:
Thanks guys, I'll give it a whirl. I have root access so will give the terminal windows trick a crack. Fingers crossed, I love my orb!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edwards653:
Been using my maxell wireless charger a couple of months now and always 100% charged and no major issues regarding overheating, it does get warm up to about 41 degrees, but nothing to worry about. I wouldn't change my charger for the orb though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steve Elsass:
Say you place the Nexus 4 on the Orb before bed.

If in the morning you wake the screen while Nexus is still on the Orb,

Should it always say, "Charged" on the lock screen?

I'm concerned because sometimes my Nexus 4 will say "Charged" . . . and sometimes there is no message on the lock screen.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moe6:
It says charged at 92%+ onwards or so. I remember my gnex also doing similar whenever it hits 95%.

It's this way even plugged in.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoagieh:
Wireless charging orb for Canada is now showing temporarily out of stock instead of the not available in your country. Here's hoping Canada gets it in the next couple of days.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WormholeZA:
I wonder when it will be in the UK, been waiting for ages for the Orb.