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[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chugglet:
So I made up my mind..........or have I.

When I first started this thread I had no idea which to get. I have an S3 and love it so originally decided that the Note would be perfect to go with it.

Then the Nexus was released and threw a spanner in the works!

I decided about half way through this thread to wait for the Nexus and now with release only a day away I am again unsure!

Every review I have read about the Nexus says the same thing, great build quality, amazing screen, very fast, software is great, updates will be quick but no card slot.

The Note reviews complain about build quality, the screen being poor (in comparison), Touchwiz is slow. But there is a card slot and the stylus makes it very versatile!!

I still don't know and the cash is burning a hole in my pocket!!!!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
Go for the Nexus, make yourself one of these like I did: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33978463

As for the stylus, I found it a hindrance and of little use on my Note since I can't draw to save my life.

Never missed the stylus since switching to S3.

That adapter coupled with the 50GB Dropbox you got with your S3, Google Music to stream your own tunes from and you're sorted.

Heck, you could run an FTP server or something on your S3 for sharing files.

I'm not letting the lack of SD bother me, but I will buy the 32GB model.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chugglet:
Thanks Neo, I am still swayed more towards the 32gb Nexus.

I do indeed have a large dropbox account which I use regularly and I plan to take full advantage of Google music.

I was always a little worried that I would forget about the stylus or find it a bit "gimmicky" when using the note which kind of negates one of the main reasons for buying it!!

Mind made up again............
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilskanker:
I can't decide between the same tablets as you. I'm wanting around 32gb of storage, so it's either the £389 Nexus 10 or the 16gb Note 10.1 with an additional memory card. If both were at full price I'd almost certainly go for the Nexus 10. However, the Note 10.1 can currently be picked up at Tesco (assuming you are in the UK!) for £318 - delivered to a store. You then get £50 cashback from Samsung making the final price £268. I could spend £20 on a 32gb memory card (and end up with more storage than I wanted) and still be £100 better off. I'm just not sure that I can justify the extra expense for a Nexus 10 when the Note 10.1 should do everything I need/want (and more).
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chugglet:
I've just seen that price on Tesco.

That is a damn good price!!!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokool:
That's where I purchased mine from but how do u get extra 50 pounds off from Samsung? Please explain?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alias_neo:
The note 10.1 is a little outdated and offers very little for its screen size compared to the S3 (1280x800 vs 1280x720 on the S3) so that screen would be mdpi and not have the crispness I for one, need from my tablets.

If you can sacrifice that, the 16GB note from twsxo is a good deal, I did notice though that the 3g version is a total rip at near £500. I'll tether to my S3 thanks.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duarian:
Currently stuck at this decision as well...I have the Infinity but the slow I/O really gets to me. My S3 is blazing fast whereas the infinity is slow. Even after JB update.

Really debating between the Note and the Nexus 10 (pending I return my Infinity). Currently here in the US they are the same price, so a price drop would be most welcome.. no SD storage kills the N10 for me though as I have almost 15GB of music and I prefer poweramp (then again I have my S3 for that...). Still up in the air about this one sadly :(
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chugglet:
I have over 60gb of music alone so I know I will never be able to store everything on whatever tablet I get. That is why the absent SD card is not a big issue for me.

It would be nice but it's not a deal breaker!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ponyboy82:
I keep going back and forth on these two as well. If the Nexus 10 had the S-pen (or just any pen input digitizer), it would be a no-brainer. Personally, I don't care too much about storage space -- for some reason I just don't tend to keep much stored on my tablets. I guess with the separate digitizer, the actual screen resolution on the Note 10.1 isn't quite as important, but it seems like the N10 would be so much better as a drawing tablet. That said, the pen input seems like it would be great to have, but I'm not sure exactly what I would do with it in practice.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mi7chy:
Envious of those who got in on the Fry's $350 32GB Galaxy Note 10.1 one day sale and Best Buy price match yesterday.

Anyhow, they're both top notch devices depending on your needs and desires. If you can't decide just get both like what I plan to do.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duarian:
I am picking up a note from BB tonight. Paying with Paypal online. Going to play around with it and compare it to my TF700 and then I will keep whichever is the victor.

Best buy and paypal both have Holiday price matching, so its a win-win if the note drops in price, which it has the potential to around the holidays.

Anyway, hope everyone enjoys their Nexus 10's. I may end up returning the note and getting that eventually once more reviews come in :)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CreepyDroid:
Something to consider is the new multitasking capabilities in the note's jb update. You can now have multiple windows opened in cascade mode just like on a pc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPV0PtNCuuw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tokool:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1968695

Please read this when considering n 10. Apparently very poor battery performance to the extent that it discharges while playing a game even when connected to charger. And few apps. Must be due to powerful processor and screen res too much.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 404 ERROR:
Was this connected to a USB port on a computer or via AC adapter? My gnex connected to a computer USB port discharges faster than it charges when I'm on 3G, playing games, or watching videos, so it might be different when connected via an AC charger.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CreepyDroid:
AC adapter. Your gnex is a phone with a small battery. There is a reason why all 10" tablets out there come with a proprietary charging port.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 404 ERROR:
That's true. I guess this is inevitable using a standard port. Only way to get around it in that case would be the pogo connector.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ojumehta1:
Nexus 10

I would suggest you Nexus 10 because its a Google device and gets OS updates early than any other tablet.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chugglet:
I decided.

I bought a Nexus 10 this morning!!!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yorkshire Paul:
Galaxy Note 10.1 - price drop

I have read through all of the comments and I am still not sure which to but Note 10.1 or Nexus 10.

I plan to use a tablet for at home and also while away from home for watching movies.

Galaxy note 10.1 16GB - 268 GBP (inc 50 GBP cashback) and I have one in store for collection. Cons - does not have a USB port, lower screen res

Nexus 10 - 389 GBP (32GB) version - no SD card slot, timely updates, USB port - do not need to carry another charges, but no expandable memory

From a quick play on Note in shops it seemed to stutter when moving between home screens. The screen is not as good as Nexus 10 - not actually seem Nexus 10 in real life.

I'll be mainly using for watching movies and general surfing...any advice on which one to go for as Note seems to get poor reviews based on a 400 GBP price tag, but now it's just above 260 GBP - over 100 GBP less than Nexus 10 - does this outweight the lower res screen and seperate charger...any adivce, thoughts

Thanks

Galaxy S3 user

p.s. sorry for not using the pound sign, but I'm on a foreign keyboard which does not have it.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UndisputedGuy:
Which store did you see the note 10.1 in?
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjdevega:
I had the Note 10.1 for about 30 days then returned it for the N10. My experience with the Note was that it was reliable fast and had a lot of features build in. It was nice that it had expandable memory and the spen was a nice addition. I didn't use the spen very much but when I did it did its job. I'm a big media consumer and avid gamer and after coming from the Infinity with its beautiful HD screen I was a bit dissatisfied with the Notes display after trying very hard to live with it. Though the Note provided everything I needed it wasn't enough. Also the GNote 10.1 is very similar with the N10 in ways of charge times. While in use and charging it will struggle to charge most especially when your playing games. That's when I see charging go in reverse. Only difference is that N10 will have the Pogo Pin charger to remidy the slow charge issues but your stuck with it on the GN10. GN10.1 will charge in 6 hours if you don't use it.

N10 has everything a media consumption person would salivate over. With its next Gen technology and highest Res available. Although it has no expandable memory I can live with 32gigs and using my dropbox with 50gigs.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yorkshire Paul:
It is on offer at John Lewis in the UK

Just picked up my note 10.1 and having a play
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaydubbbbs:
I love the Note 10.1. 10-12 hours on the battery reliably. Not a single reboot in 3 months of use. Spen and wacom, need I say more. The ability to annotate and create pdfs and be able to sign on the screen, legibly, is invaluable to me. Now I us my tablet for work, games too, but I need the ability to work on blueprints. No other tab could offer that. Multi window is awesome and the wolfram database that can be used for math is amazingly helpful. Guess my eyes are bad. Screen doesn't bother me a bit. Its a tool not just a toy
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickneworleansla:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPV0PtNCuuw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bolshoie:
So I was sold to the idea of selling my note 10.1 for a N10 until you guys made your case...now Im confused as much as any users with the same dillema here....

For the storage issue a 32gb variant would suffice my need even cloud storage would be useful

But from what I was reminded here the N10 does not have 3g/lte support that I need whenever I use it while waiting in cafe's or whatever...Im in the Philippines so getting free wifi on most part is a laughable thought but with my Note I have a prepaid simcard (different network with my S3 so I have 2 numbers) that I can get atleast 5 hours of mobile data consumable for 3 days (P50 = more over 1 Us dollar) I can tether it with my S3 as well but I didnt get an unlimited internet plan with it so

Even if the 1280x800 resolution is horrible for me specially when theming my homescreen the note 10.1 does suffice my need...I usually use it as a comic book reader and to watch tv series thru the sd storage

Either way Im waiting for the JB update to see how much it will improve first but currently using Nova launcher and chameleon (yes i suckered in) to hide the ridiculous touchwiz skin.

Impulse buyer here,bought the note 10.1 the first week it was released if only google announced the n10 earlier well its a different story

In regards to the plastic feel of the note....buy a protective case for it,you already spent much on the tablet invest on a high quality case and you wont even feel the plastic feel
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aami.aami:
do ur self a favor! i own Note 10.1 and S3 and just today afternoon, i got my Nexus 10! and u know what, Nexus has the best screen among all these 3 devices! its brighter than my S3! i am gonna sell my Note 10.1 next week cause of screen.

Get note 10.1 ONLY AND ONLY if u have GREAT DRAWING and u Have A LOOOOOOOTTTT of time....

get Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aami.aami:
u trying to keep ur mind inclined towards Note 10.1! but guess what, i am bigger fan of Note series of devices than u can imagine urself to be!

i m from pakistan, Note N7000 came to pakistan 2 days before its international availability. but it costed PAK Rs 80000 thats US $870!

S3 came to pakistan 5 days before international launch, i got that for PAK Rs 85000 thats US $923!

Note 10.1 costed me PAK Rs 70000 thats US $760!

but Note 10.1 is really disappointing only because of two things.

software and app support and screen!

i am selling my Note 10.1 next week for Nexus 10.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quonith:
I'm so confused... I have no idea what to go for now.

From what I've seen the Nexus 10 looks like the better device, more powerful, better screen etc. But with the note 10.1 16gb being £318.00 in Tesco + £50 cashback... even adding the cost of a fair quality 16Gb class 10 microSD (to bring the storage in line with the 32Gb nexus 10) the note is still a fair bit cheaper. Without shopping round for the best deal on the SD, total cost of the note: £285 after cashback. Cost of the nexus: £389.

The lack of microSD on the Nexus bothers me, but it's not a deal breaker... 32Gb should do me for apps and music and I can always stick films and TV shows on a USB flash drive and use one of those OTG cables.

I kind of like the idea of the pen on the note, but I'm not sure I'd use it... I think I'd probably play with it loads for the first few weeks and then never use it again. I'm not an artistic person and I can't draw.

I do like the split-screen multitasking thing on the note though, I can see that being useful.

But I know that the nexus is gonna get updates quicker, and I would imagine it'll have a better development community around it... even after Google stop supporting it (and I do like a custom ROM :D ).

I would probably do a little bit of gaming on it too, so the Mali-T604 GPU of the nexus is gonna be better...

So really it comes down to a simple question - Is the extra power, better screen, better updates etc. of the nexus worth £100? I just don't know! HELP!
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rookiegenius:
Split screen on the note only supports a few apps. Maybe new fw will fix that. I have owned both and returned both hah... But if I have to pick one.. Nexus

Sent from my beloved home phone.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bru87tr:
I'm as mad as you are about no SD. I have been waiting for a tablet like this to jump on, it will be my first cause every wait, someone leaves something out I want. Why don't manufacturers just give us everything and charge us what it cost ? I would rather have that than keep waiting for "The" tablet.

I know some people can't always have wifi, honestly I don't have this problem. At work there is free wifi, at my beach house there is free wifi, I have wifi at home. Even when I go on vacation there is free wifi. Almost everywhere you go there is free wifi.

My solution was a Synology NAS. My friend turned me on to it and it is the best purchase I ever made. You make a $200 investment between the Synology and a 1TB drive and you have access to everything you need. All the apps to access files, audio, video ....etc has an Android app called DSaudio, DSfile ....etc (they are working on the DSvideo which I have on my ipod and is great!

I agree 16GB is not enough for games and whatever else you need local. I think it is a ripoff charging $100 more for an extra 16GB. But look at it this way, it is still comparable to the closest tablet price wise and is the latest and greatest and has direct support.

Buy a Synology, you will love it. I stream my HD movies and Audio from it and it is the best thing I ever bought for little money.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
I haven't really been bothered with lack of SD card on Android devices... my first tablet (SGT7) had a SD slot and I never used it, since I could usually clear enough space on my internal storage if I needed it.

I have basically everything I could want on my N10 atm, and it has 3GB left (16GB model). And if I needed a bit more then 3GB, there's some things I wouldn't mind getting rid of :)

In any case, storage usage varies between person. In my case, I can make it work with just 16GB, but others might not. Same with 32GB (although I personally don't know what I'd do with 32GB lol).
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] havekk:
I too am trying to decide on the 10.1 or the N10. Here are some points I don't think anyone has really mentioned. First off; touchwiz.. why is this really an issue? You don't have to use it. There are stock roms and also plenty of home screen replacements apps that can give you the pure Google experience. Have you guys ever used Android? lol, it's one of the major benefits. Next, as far as the screen on the Nexus 10.. I am currently using an iPad 3. I have always had Android phones and an Apple tablet; however, I'm really starting to hate Apple's face, so I'm making the switch. I do however, own a Transformer Prime, tf200. As for the screen, I can tell you this: the resolution on my iPad is far superior to the resolution on the transformer.. however; when you hold the tablet even a foot from your face you can BARELY tell. I'm not kidding.. it's hardly noticeable at a normal viewing distance. If you put the damn thing directly up to your eye, of course you can tell. Other then that, it's not a big deal. The other issue with the higher rez is that it seems to cancel out a lot of the extra power. For example, I gave my son my iPad 2 when I bought the 3. When we play games, there is not a really noticeable difference between to the two. The colors are a little better on the 3 and some of the menus may be sharper, but the game-play experience did not change much. In fact, some games seem to run a little more choppy on my iPad 3, more then likely due to the increased resolution. The only thing making me want the nexus at this point are the update issues on Sammy products. Seems they are a little slow.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rakgitarmen:
Well, after reading countless reviews, forum posts, Amazon reviews and reddit threads I finally bit the bullet and ordered a Note 10.1. A totally unexpected situation considering after waiting for Note 10.1 to release and then being turned off by the negative reviews, I was waiting for the next big thing and Nexus 10 was just that.

After all those research, I came to the conclusion that it all comes to the simple question of what do you want to do with it? Do you want to consume, create or both? If the former then Nexus 10, no contest. Google, much like Amazon is trying to sell it's ecosystem and Nexus 10 is just made for that; to consume and consume easier. That's why it has to have all that PPI screen and phablet interface.

Note 10.1 though, it's aimed towards productivity just because of it's pen and apps that it has for it. I'm an engineering student so I have a need for a device like this. I happen to like consuming stuff(music, videos, web) too though and that's where I got confused; I didn't want to comprimise. I wanted the 300 PPI screen, the pen, latest hardware and for a good price. If you want to buy a tablet now though, you have to. And the best way to know if you can live with it or not is to try it. After I tried the (ab)used Note 10.1 at a Saturn I saw ,that most of the things the reviews complained about either didn't exist or didn't bother me. The interface was very fluid, the S-Pen was responsive with minimal lag and although the build quality and the "feel" of the tablet was lacking compared to Asus and Apple tablets, it wasn't that horrible. The screen could definitely use some more pixels, but had decent colours.

In the end what you get is a classic Samsung, powerful and attractive internals married with mediocre build quality. But at least It can be useful for me during the day rather than being a 400€ toy, unlike the Nexus 10.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowabunga:
Was just at Costco and playing with the Note 10.1 they had set up as demo. Damn is that a nice looking device. Why couldn't the N10 have been in the body of the Note 10.1? The pen, the expandable storage, the list goes on. To be honest, I jumped on the bandwagon for the high rez screen of the N10 but so far between the light bleed and the lack of good high rez apps, it's just not worth it.

Seriously, the Note 10.1 was one nice looking tablet. Have not seen the TF Infinity yet. Pretty sure that would beat the N10 on looks hands down.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bp328i:
I'll throw in a quick comment as well. My current phone is a Note II, prior to that was the GSIII and prior to that was the Galaxy Nexus.

I looked at both and bought the Nexus 10 because of the screen, fast updates, processor, and well, it's a Nexus and I missed my Nexus. Had it all of 2 days and returned it for the 32gb Note 10.1.

Reason why I returned the Nexus 10:

The screen resolution is AMAZING! Now with that said, the light bleed KILLS it, and the one I had based on the images I found of others was damn near perfect. It really shows when your in a dark room...sad just sad.

I guess since my Galaxy Nexus I have gotten use to TouchWiz because pure Android is now...I guess the best way to say it is...well, boring and plain.

On my Note 10.1 if I want to run TouchWiz I run TouchWiz. If I want to run AOSP I can do that as well. On the Nexus 10 it's AOSP.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xbill9:
I have several models of the 10.1 note and a nexus 10. All are running CM10.1 nightlies.

(except the Verizion LTE which still has stock due to the locked Verizon bootloader).

Both the 10.1 and Nexus 10 should be able to run Key Lime pie when it is released.

I end up using the 10.1 note more - mainly for these reasons:

-the SD Card Support (backups like Carbon, Titanium can go right to the sd)

-3G/LTE support (n8000 works on ATT, SGH-i925 works on LTE Verizon)

-accessories (the 10.1 book note case is worth the money)

-the wifi 10.1 can be found cheap used on Amazon (350 ish for 16GB)

This comparision may change at Google IO- if the Nexus 10 adds

ATT LTE band capable radios and/or SD card support.

I finally found a decent book case cover for the Nexus 10 on Amazon -

but the official Samsung book cases for the Note 10.1 are still nicer.

But - compared to most other 10 inch class android tablets - you can't go wrong with

either the Nexus 10 or the Note 10.1.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pnut22r:
This is a must have. Hopefully someone will come up with a pgm slide to wake for this nexus. Can't wait. I bought my Galaxy Nexus 2 months ago and had NO IDEA Google was gonna pull this. Phone going on Craigslist or eBay tonight.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slydog43:
I just emailed the author asking for exactly this. I miss the slide to wake bad!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bass++:
Seems that Google is on a November schedule now.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milesxd:
Sorry for bumping up a old thread but is PGM compatible with the N4 yet?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hrithan2020:
No. I contacted the developer, and he replied that he is still working on it. Meanwhile other kernels such as bricked support a similar sweep2wake feature [but is reportedly having bugs, for some people], so you can flash these kernels for the time being.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asawoszc:
Works on most custom kernels, although a tradeoff (on Faux at least) has been some battery drain while the feature is enabled. I can live without it. :)