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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tibbz96:
Mine actually turned up today, and yes they do stick, vertically. I could hold the charger at a 80 degree angle and the phone didn't slide off, but it does slide sideways when using the touchscreen.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GrandMstrBud:
I can't seem to find an LG Qi charging pad. I see an energizer one single and dual pads. What's a good one to try out for a single one. I'd really love the orb but not sure I can't find that anywhere yet.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rosemachinegun:
There's one here used for 39.99:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Po...TF8&qid=1354992249&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+wcp-700

I bought a used one from this seller, it came in like new condition. He's since jacked up the price $11 though. :$
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
I'm hacked off with royal mail, my tracking says no one was home when there was, it's been sent back to the sorting office but I've not git a card top call them and rearrange the delivery. I expect this from yodel or hdnl but the postman here knows the deal and usually delivers
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
I haven't had much success with my Maxell charger here :eek: Everything seems to be fine, the blue light on the Maxell comes on as soon as the phone is on the charger and the phone indicates it is charging. However at best it only charges at a rate of about 1% every 4 - 5mins then hangs after about a 3% charge and just builds up more and more heat. At one point my phone was at 45 degrees and extremely hot to touch.

Now it could be I have a dud charger or a dud phone battery, but whatever is causing it there is no way I am going to trust leaving this running at night when I am asleep. So looks like I am stuck with usb charging for the foreseeable future which is a bummer, so yeah not too impressed with this wireless charging as you can imagine.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
Do you know anyone else with a nexus our Maxwell pad, might be worth trying another phone or another pad to see which bit is the problem
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edwards653:
New Maxell Air Voltage from Smartgear.

Got my wireless charging mat from Smart gear via eBay today, fast shipping and fully trackable via royal mail. My nexus 4 charges perfectly on it and at £40 was a bargain IMHO...seems to charge pretty quick and its a nice looking bit of kit, would highly recommend picking one of these up! Would like a qi sleeve for my nexus 7 now :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAulyhoffman:
been using the LG Qi Charger for a couple weeks now. I NEVER get a full charge. some days I wake to 80% some 40%. one day i laid down at 4% woke up to the phone shut down. (but it continued to charge at 100%) anyone having similar issues?

I am running AOKP and using FauxKernel
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodeMonkey:
Not seen that with my LG, but then I use mine at work. The Maxell Air Voltage I use at my bedside certainly charges to 100% then tops off the charge as needed during the night.

Running stock & unrooted.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
LG charger works great here. I use it at work and charges up to 100% all the time and then stops charging until it reaches ~96% then resumes charging again.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAulyhoffman:
wonder if it might be kernel/rom related.

I had the dual Energizer one first and returned it. it was nearly impossible to get it to sit just right and when it charged it stopped at 84% daily. of course i have changed roms and kernels since the energizer one and i still think that one was defective.

Going for a full wipe tonight and see what happens.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
I have the energizer as well and that charged fine as well. I am fully stock but unlocked and rooted.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wolfboy1984:
Wireless car phone charging in 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20798958

Sent from a Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PAulyhoffman:
looks like i just need to sleep more. It charges great to about 80 then goes slow as hell until 100. usually i charge from 10pm to 3am then get up and head out. if i keep it plugged until 7 or so it gets fully charged.

going to see if "fastcharge" makes it any better.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Got the Maxell Air Voltage mat as an Xmas gift. Works bloody well :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaX05:
Is the original Nexus one ever going to be released?

Beamed via Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sinocelt:
As far as I know, Google hasn't even shown the press a working prototype: just a pretty bit of plastic, conveniently unplugged.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxie:
I wouldnt want the Google charger anyway, the phone looks vulnerable perched on top of the thing if you ask me, much prefer lying the device flat on a charging pad, just ordered the Maxell Air Voltage Wireless Qi Charger from Ebay.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wuith:
I am really looking forward to the Orb (of course if it isn't really expensive).

It must be really easy to charge, not having to connect the microUSB and so.... And I am also thinking about using it as a clock in my room ,cause you can see from the front.

Any idea if it will be ever be released? It's funny to have a phone that is compatible with something that almost doesnt exist (with the certification of chargers is so ****...and not all of them work well.)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Google aren't good at getting accessories out
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
There are magnets in the Orb charger and magnets in the phone to ensure the phone does not slip off.

I think that might be part of the reason why the Orb has been delayed (I tweeted LGUK and they said it had been delayed in the UK). In my experience Wireless charging does not produce enough power to charge your phone AND have the screen running at the same time. I personally wouldn't expect to see the wireless charging orb any time soon.

As far as I am aware the only Qi charger that has been causing any problem with the Nexus 4 are Nokia chargers. The Nexus works fine with chargers from Philips, Maxell, Energizer, Zen and LG. It is just Nokia charges that cause problems.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knoxie:
If they fit magnets inside it that's fine but for me it would have to hold it through my flip case as well? Not sure if the magnets will work through my case.

I still prefer the mat as a whole and they are available now. I also own a HP touchpad and use the wireless stand for that, it's great, every time I come to use it its fully charged on the touchpad you can use it on the stand whilst it's charging it depends on the charger however I don't see I will need to use my nexus whilst it's charging on the mat.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sabinblitz:
I would definitely buy one if it ever saw the light of day. The Touchstone dock was great w/ my Palm Pre. I would leave it in landscape, and the screen would stay on dimly so that it could function as an alarm clock as well (real basic clock w/ black, white, and varying shades of grey). Not that plugging in a USB cable is a hassle, but when you're semi-incapacitated from a long night of socializing and find yourself plopped in bed, getting out of bed to charge my phone isn't a viable option. However, outstretching my arm to charge is definitely in the cards in that particular situation.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FallN:
I swirly don't think the charging orb will ever see the light of day. :(

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Capt.PP:
It will come out but may take up to 6 months after they released N4. Google always slow on accessories and since they're too busy fulfilling N4 back orders at the moment. It's going to take sometime.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neo6776:
Indeed.

Like the one for the Galaxy S3 never materialised!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iconoclastnet:
That's certainly how the touchstone worked, but if you can locate the magnets in the back of the Nexus 4 I'll be impressed. Although I love the idea, I have serious doubts that a touchstone style wireless orb will actually be viable with an unmodified nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
If you can stuff the palm pre/pixi touchstone coil in the nexus4 you'll be set, im waiting for mine to come in, we'll see if its a viable solution.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlaudio27:
With these charging mats do you need one of those cases to charge or can you actually just set the phone down and it will charge? Sorry if its a stupid question, my Nexus just shipped today so I am catching up on all this phone has to offer, one of the biggest reasons I wanted it was for the dock but since that't not out yet I wanted to explore other options.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
If it's Qi, just drop your phone on it and it's charging, no extras.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zuk.:
You just drop it on. I brought my N4 to a Verizon store the other day and tried it out. They had 2 different Qi chargers (for Nokia devices) and a BT speaker that had wireless charging on the top. All worked great.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
You don't need anything extra. Just place it on the charger and let it do it's magic. And save yourself headaches and stay away from the Nokia chargers, no matter how pretty they look lol. Go for the LG one, sold by Verizon. Look for it on ebay or amazon or even in NYC if you are close enough. I'm pretty sure Chinatown has some stashed somewhere lol.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roscopcoletrain:
where did we hear the Google Charger has magnets in it? Just curious?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
There are no magnets in the N4 (or the Palm backs); there's no need for them. The magnets are only in the charger. The unmodified N4 has no problem sticking to the Touchstone charger.

---------- Post added at 02:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:13 PM ----------

It's not possible, the electronics are embedded in the phone's board. Also, the coil and the NFC antenna are together.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Yeah you've wasted your money there. It's well documented that it won't work.

Qi chargers only.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CharmingCharlie:
It has been widely reported in the press that the Orb will have magnets :-

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569230/google-wireless-charging-orb-touchstone-qi

Now whether this is or is not the case is anyone's guess. No one has seen the wireless orb working. I believe the Verges video was just a plastic mockup of what the orb will look like (at this moment I doubt there is even a working version of the orb). However the press has reported the orb and the Nexus 4 have magnets in them.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roscopcoletrain:
Cool, like I said, just curious where it was mentioned. Thanks for the link :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
No one said about taking them out, although i never use nfc anyway but it is removable, if the touchstone coil is thin enough it might just fit, then run some wires to the contact points and voila.

That's why i bought the touchstone charger also, its a $15 experiment.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
You cannot just switch the coils. The electronics which drive the Qi charging are embedded in the phone, it's not like the Touchstone backs which have everything in the same part. The Touchstone backs will be outputting around 5V from their contacts, that's not what you want to connect to the contacts of the N4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandozer:
QI Technical Specifications

Non QI chargers will not work unless meeting precise QI requirements. It is a very accurately controlled dynamic.

Those who want to delve into the "diy" aspect of making it fit would be well advised to read the basic requirements of QI.

I have a link to the spec but can`t post as still a noobie :silly:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Actually people have fitted Touchstone coils to the battery covers of the SGS3/Note II and hooked them up to the wireless charging pins, they work fine with it's electronics.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
So did they with the galaxy nexus, but they are different phones. It's not a Qi thing, it's the way the phone is constructed. The N4 doesn't have the electronics in the back plate. Now if you wanna risk it and instead connect the wires directly to the battery or take another path you better know what you're doing for real, but those contacts that connect the coil won't work and probably will damage the phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iconoclastnet:
Really? Mine slides right off. Of course the nexus 4 slides off of everything you set it on, even when you think the surface is pretty horizontal. I used magnets in the galaxy nexus battery cover to get it to stick to the right spot on the touchstone.

On the other hand, from the pictures of the wireless orb (or at least the mock-up) it appears to have what might be a more rubbery surface, which may just make the difference between it sticking and sliding right off.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
Lol @ people risking frying their phone instead of buying a $50 qi charger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Ah, sorry, by "unmodified" I meant internally. I have a screen protector in the back, probably that helps, but there is still a magnetic pull that will keep the phone in place. The Orb might have a stronger magnet, or a better placed one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlaudio27:
Thanks!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackX777:
This wireless charging for me has a huge disadvantage YOU CAN'T USE IT WHILE CHARGING.

I had a dock for my old Phone and every time i wand look for somewhat, I removed it.

And then it took a bit longer and the Battery runs down again.

So I ripped of the Cable from the Dock and put it in the Phone, every time.

I never used the dock and i never use a wireless dock.

You have to plan too far when you have to load.

It is not worth the price.

A good long thin supple silicone cable with tiny plug. Like the original but 3 meters.

Is 1000 times more practical.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpjimmy:
I use my phone on the charging pad all the time. Can you elaborate a bit more in what you mean when you say you can't use it while charging? I mean the LG and Energizer pads charges up to 100% stops til it drops to 95% and begins charging again. No issue here. I get close to 100% if not 100% most times when I grab my phone to go out. No issues here.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztmike:
Any word on a release date yet?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _ice_:
I think what he means is that if you are laying down on your couch or bed, then you will have to pick up the phone from the pad/orb anyway, it would be a bit retarded holding a orb and a phone to text your GF. He is partially right, most of the time when I am about to go to bed, my phone is in the verge of dying, so I would need a cable to be plugged into my phone if I were to use it, for that reason I do not use a bed side dock.

Though I do prefer a dock for my desk, where I can simply set it down while working on the PC.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandozer:
Just get Panasonic TM101

Ordered this from Japan on E-bay, QE-TM101-K, amazing, drop phone on pad and it finds it. (even got graphics!)

Fast charge too, and works on the 12 Vcar electrickery too. . Well 12v is pretty universal.:laugh:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Except that it's very expensive.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsouza:
IMO there won't be any official wireless charger. Just like the S3, Samsung announced it last year, it was supposed to be released on September...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaX05:
Time to start forgetting about Qi standard wireless chargers as Google is officially backing up PMA standard wireless chargers.

Source:

http://www.powermatters.org/index.php/menuless/109-121029pr

That being said, this is a good place to start looking..

Duracell Powermat:

http://www.duracellpowermat.com/

Beamed via Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandozer:
Considering there is little or no availability here in UK, I thought that $68 was not a bad exchange.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
It doesn't really matter what Google are backing, it's what their hardware partners are backing. LG, Samsung, HTC, Sony, Verizon, Motorola, Huawei are all behind Qi.

The N4 shows they're not exactly against it anyway.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondian:
How realistic would it be to expect this to come out this month?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrbkkt1:
The nexus one docks, came out 4 months after the phones release.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy o:
Yeah, it has come down a bit. Not so long ago you could not get it for less than about 90 dollars.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
There's a couple available here, there's the maxell one from play or bit more so one as well, they also do a qi micro USB adaptor that I might look at for charging my girlfriends s2 and my Sony mw600
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandozer:
Your right, missed that one ! Price good too with free postage. Must admit the Panasonic has the super cool factor with the flashy blue LEDs :cool:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Don't get sucked in by blue LEDs. My Maxell has one, but it's like a small, blue sun,.I cover it up with a 1p so I can sleep :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
Mines not in the bedroom, partly because of this and partly as we need 2 chargers for night time from 1 plug socket so we use a USB hub instead. I could see it being annoying though that blue light is bright and it would drive be nuts with it turning off and then back on when the charge drops low enough. I've not tried the bit more one but it should work
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandozer:
The blue LEDs only illuminate on the sensor mechanism under the pad as it scans to locate the phone.

As soon as that happens they go off completely and charging commences.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cramu:
The Orb (WCP-400) is listed now in Switzerland at digitec.ch.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
Using that product number I've found it at a few Europe sites. They have a release date of February 1st and price is ~$70

Take that with a grain of salt. :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nkhoa23:
Thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
Can anyone confirm that this simply holds the phone via friction? I think a lot of people like myself assumed it was magnetic. If this is not the case, many with cases will not be able to use this charger because it requires surface tension to hold it in place.

Also, I doubt the thing will be $70 in the US. Most likely it will be $50 bucks as we don't have VAT here.

Sent from my 5th and final Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheHeeyyy:
The Verge got to see it when they went to Google HQ, and they said it uses magnets:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569230/google-wireless-charging-orb-touchstone-qi
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
+1 That's a relief :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YasooKhuul:
Is there anyone who has experiences with that one: aliexpress.com/item/New-arrival-QI-standard-Wireless-Charger-with-USB-cable-for-Nokia-Lumia-920-LG-Nexus-4/729879461.html"

It's the only qi charger with USB power supply i found...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
I think that's the one that people say sometimes cycles off and on and doesn't charge a N4 very good.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jenskristian:
Found it on one Norwegian online retailer, Dustin Home

Price: 739 NOK ($133.95)

Availability: Feb 12 (not confirmed)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nospin:
1. I have a feeling this orb might be pointless for those of us with heavy duty cases. It should charge OK, but no way it will stay on that slanted surface without the magnet's help.

2. Do we have a comprehensive guide on Qi charger compatibility? We know the LG one works fine and the Nokia's don't. Some people said the Panasonic works great, while others say it doesn't keep the device topped off.....it is terribly confusing navigating the 10 or so Qi threads here, trying to figure which ones COMPLETELY work and are in stock someplace that isn't charging triple the price.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] everett_psycho:
In the UK the maxell air voltage definitely works fine and can be had for about £40
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] resynx:
I was thinking of getting one for my car also. So convenient wireless charging will be =)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dc211:
This should work, made by LG sold for $49.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/lg-gets-official-with-wcp-700-wireless-charging-pad-fails-to-pr/

http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Portable-Office-Charging/dp/B005DMBSVA
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoseth0711:
The official charging dock or what you would like to call it would be priced around 80 usd
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youareme7:
I sure hope not, $80 would be bananas! My guess (hope) is $39 on the low end up to $59 at the most. Hopefully with price drops quickly so I can get more than one. I'm really banking on the nokia chargers for the lumia being sold everywhere and then discounted after a month or two as well. The more Qi the merrier!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nordendorf:
grabbed one (touchstone). Here's hoping it works...

:highfive:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spitfire:
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Single-Position-Inductive-Charger/dp/B005QZ8BF0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2

Would that thing work? It's $42 and while it's a brand name, it's not OEM so I bet the real deal will be even more expensive.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap27:
Some sellers on ebay are offering to bundle the touchstone with a cable and charger.