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[Nexus 4 General] FailDeadly:
http://www.indiegogo.com/microsdtomicrousb

This is the first real solution to the problem. While the proposed solution is plenty small, it'd be nice to get something that fits the form of the phone better.
[Nexus 4 General] GrendelJapan:
What about streaming content (e.g., audio) from, say, an N7 or N10 to your N4. Is that possible?
[Nexus 4 General] Vertron:
Hahaha

This made me laugh out loud.
[Nexus 4 General] kcls:
What somebody needs to do is just make that into a case!
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
As many others here I have been thinking about how to have additional storage for the Nexus 4 without wires, but I have also been thinking of how I could use that storage with other devices again without wires. GoFlex Satellite is too big to carry and The AirStash SD Card Reader is too expensive for what you get at least for my taste. Then I found Kingston's Wi-Drive. You can get the 32GB version on Amazon for $70.43.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00576APEI/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

They make 16GB, 32GB and 64GB.

It was really designed for use with the iPad but from my research it actually works better with Android. Many reviews talk about problems but the more you read the more you find the problems appear to have been fixed.
[Nexus 4 General] frigidazzi:
I have seen lots of comment from people on various threads talking about wifi being everywhere now days. MCD and starbucks for example. Is no one else concerned about how easy those are to hack and steal passwords from? I would be more apt to using those things if I wasn't so paranoid about that stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] haloimplant:
I'd rather be using cell data but when I do use public WiFi I try to use VPN, either corporate or my personal one. The rub with the personal one is that it is limited by my home internet's upload speed, but that is actually supposed to be upgraded from 1 to 3 Mbps next month so it will be much better.
[Nexus 4 General] hallucynogenyc:
You shouldn't be. They might read your whatsapp conversation at most. Most of your login pages are over https, and so it really doesn't matter if someone can listen to your traffic or not, it's still encrypted. Just make sure to use https when you're on an open network :)
[Nexus 4 General] frigidazzi:
For web browsing. Sure that's easy. But how do you know what your apps are using? Third party im for example. How can you be sure how they're connecting?
[Nexus 4 General] kindiboy:
This is exactly why i discredit anyone who says "WTF NO INTERNAL STORAGE I HAVEZ MY 42525GB MUSIZK WANT TO LISTEN TO"

and just jump to the next post.
[Nexus 4 General] aLoNe.Adams.K:
it's a good idea,thanks
[Nexus 4 General] desarenezitic:
I'm still thinking I can get away with the 8GB seeing as I am using less than 2GB of my SD card and have about 600MB on my Ext4 partition so ~5GB usable storage should be fine. I would look at the OP's suggestion for trips where movies may be required.
[Nexus 4 General] imitenotbecrazy:
My friend and I are going to try and work up a case solution that has an integrated micro sd card slot. Maybe we'll even make a few if we nail it. Thank god the phone has wireless charging or else it would be more complicated to have the microSD using the usb port and then charging.
[Nexus 4 General] iozzo:
That would be some good kickstarter material. I would definetelly be a baker for a customized nexus4 back cover with a sd slot. Given that the device will sell well for sure if would be quite a successfull kickstarter project. Just my two cents.
[Nexus 4 General] imitenotbecrazy:
From what another thread showed, the back cover looks to be pretty essential to radios and other components. In order to make this financial feasible for more people (more potential customers) we would forgo recreating the back cover to incorporate an sd card slot. What we'll be looking into is going off of an existing slider case and adding the "housing" for the micro usb to microsd card slot. it's harder than I thought to find flat cabled micro usb male to female cables. Probably going to have to wire our own. I'll start a thread on the build once we have a phone and start.
[Nexus 4 General] haloimplant:
I'd suggest some type of switch (or software solution?) to deactivate it or the battery drain is going to be pretty bad. At the very least you'll want to do some research into how much current the microsd controller is going to burn. 50 mA might be acceptable, 100-200+ mA is going to suck the battery dry fast.

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Well at least you're keeping an open mind and not exaggerating things!

Who wants to waste time swapping music around every week? To me buying an extra 16GB for $50 would be a slam dunk tradeoff between the time wasted shuffling stuff in and out of storage and just loading up 10GB (and still having room for other stuff) and forgetting about it for a few months.
[Nexus 4 General] karendar:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MicroSD-Adapter-Memory-Card-Reader-OTG-Adaptor-Cable-for-Google-Nexus-7-Asus-/160869755649?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item257495ab01

I'm sure someone's posted this... But hey, you know. WHY NOT DO IT AGAIN?!
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
IMO it looks stupid (even though some great people may like it's looks) but I guess you could cut off the ant and little ring and it would be ok.
[Nexus 4 General] bendirkss:
Unless I have my phone packed of music, even 8GB would be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] karendar:
It's not really a question of looks, it's more a question of portability. This solution is UBER tiny for a card reader. You can always remove the plastic droid head I'm sure. Now to find an UBER TINY otg cable.
[Nexus 4 General] geoff5093:
What I'm more worried about is when I want to do a nandroid backup, currently my backups are 4-5GB each. It will make flashing ROM's more difficult.
[Nexus 4 General] Zmydust:
Is it possible to hook my gopro up via OTG cable and watch the videos or transfer in any way?
[Nexus 4 General] desarenezitic:
What phone do you have making that size nandroids? If the Nexus 4 makes nandroids that big 8GB would be a pain.
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
Probably. Check out this app, which supposedly works on a non-rooted phone. For rooted users, I've heard about StickMount. It's not clear yet whether something like rooting and StickMount will be necessary in 4.2 or not; they might have added a native USB mass storage driver, which would make things easier.
[Nexus 4 General] Redmed427:
Has anyone thought about how much the 8gb version is going to have available? I mean if the 16gb has 11gb of free space, assuming all things are equal that would leave only 3gb left in the 8gb version, that is slightly appalling.
[Nexus 4 General] Mikk36:
It is said to have around 5.8-5.9 GB of space.
[Nexus 4 General] Redmed427:
So how is it that the 16gb has more than half of that being used up on a fresh boot? The 16gb should have ~14gb free on a fresh boot if that were the case.
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
Right; the figure I have seen in screen shots is 13.92 GB.

Where did you see that "more than half" was already used?
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
More than half? Highly unlikely..my nex 7 has jb 4.1.2 and the 16 GB model gives you a bit under 14..I can't see 4.2 using much more.
[Nexus 4 General] Xalies:
It shouldn't be too hard to buy the both crack them both and just resolder the MicroUSB plug from the adaptor (or another source) on to replace the USB ... then it would be awesome
[Nexus 4 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Because I want to walk around with a bunch of wires hanging out my phone while listening to music -_-

OTG cables are good .. but for solid usage.. like streaming a movie from my HDD thru MHL
[Nexus 4 General] Audioboxer:
Now that I've bought the 8GB Nexus I may be interested in solutions in here solely for plane journeys or those where I know signal may be an issue (I use Google Music/stream podcasts).

Wish someone could create some sort of T shapped device. While there are small hardware solutions, most of them look like a simple knock would have them popping out of the nexus.

So yeah, a T shape, or some sort of 'bar' shape along the bottom. Wouldn't mind if it added a few cm to length, just want something sturdy.
[Nexus 4 General] ajpettit:
i recall when the n7 was released many users were worried about similar issues so i created a mod for the n7 once i have the n4 i'll work on a similar casing

might drop the camera and dumbphone for one of these

extra juice

eventually i envisage it to incorporate a server and generator so that lack of space or power will never be an issue
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
will some one please tell me how to connect pendrive or any usb device to my nexus...its not even responding to the devices connected...???

thought it supports OTG...atleast how to connect a pendrive...?? my one is rooted..how the people are connecting their memory devices over here in xda?
[Nexus 4 General] abnormalreply:
It does not support USB OTG. This thread was created under the assumption that it does, before Google officially stated that it is not supported.
[Nexus 4 General] Chillz88:
This thread is funny.. So is the op suggesting that otg would work.. Lmao.. Fail.
[Nexus 4 General] tom1807:
At that time when this topic was started the N4 was even not available.

So everyone assumed (based on N7 experience) that it would work.

Nothing funny to see
[Nexus 4 General] B Dizzle:
With all the cloud services out there I don't see how space could be an issue. Music pictures and video all can go through Plex or similar service. You can access your content anywhere.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Many people spend large parts of their daily commute with no service. Before you talk about caching songs, I never know what I want to listen to until right before I listen to it because my mood changes. There are people who can deal with 13 gb or less of storage and those who can't. If you can't, don't get this device. If you can, great. It's not like there aren't plenty of choices out there.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] wreckone:
Dropbox with up to 50 GB of free storage free when signing up with a Nexus device. Stream your music content: Pandora etc.
[Nexus 4 General] donec:
You can get a Kingston Wi-Drive. It will give you extra space and is small has a bridge to allow you to be connected to your Wi-Drive via WiFi and still be connected to the internet via WiFi.
[Nexus 4 General] daviiiiiid:
this still works?? I never got my 50gb..
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
Nor me.

How does this work?
[Nexus 4 General] Devildog78965:
Its not drop box its box.net is were u get your free 50gbs.
[Nexus 4 General] dmkozak:
Please help me out here. Nexus 4 does not support OTG? Then, if Nexus 4 does not support OTG, we cannot connect peripherals to the micro USB port? If I understand this correctly, the Nexus 4 micro USB port does not function like a "traditional" USB port where we could connect drives, etc, which means we cannot use the micro USB port to read external storage or copying to external storage. Do I understand this correctly?

(If I understand correctly, then, is this whole thread worthless from a mass storage standpoint?)
[Nexus 4 General] hallucynogenyc:
Yes you've understood it properly.
[Nexus 4 General] sidat24:
Lg has a deal with box where everyone who purchases a lg smartphone gets 50 GB of storage. Just download the box app and run it, it should work.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] frigidazzi:
Are you limited to 100mb per file with this deal? I had 50 from a previous offer and am limited.
[Nexus 4 General] abnormalreply:
Yeah. That's the major downside of Box. 100 MB limit. But if you really just need to store things you're not going to access often, it's pretty easy to split up your files into 100MB .rar parts.
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
I've read (but haven't tested) that Box has recently raised that limit to 250 MB.
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Hi,

Sorry for the bump of an old thread. But, I was hoping that you could update the OP to indicate that the OTG doesn't work for Nexus 4,and there is no use trying this thing. [at least for now].

Newbies who check might think that it will work and then unnecessarily buy the adapters and all.
[Nexus 4 General] MoooN:
arent there some custom kernels out right now that support usb host?
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Sure you can stream music, video from the cloud, but the thing I am worried about is application data or say to speak game 'data' as they can take gigs of space. What do you guys do, is there a way of saving it elsewhere or do you guys limit the amount of apps you install?
[Nexus 4 General] Hrithan2020:
Realistically speaking how many such big game will you be installing and playing at the same time. Taking approx 10 GB free space, your phone should be easily be able to accomodate 4 such big games plus all your apps data. ie. if you don't have many music/videos stored locally.
[Nexus 4 General] Kirian:
I was reading the thread from the start just waiting for the person that would destroy your dreams saying that the Nexus 4 doesn't support OTG :)

Anyway, for the whole "Is 16Gb's of storage enough?" thing, my answer is "no".

First, I have many musics that I like to carry with me (+3Gb's). Here in Brasil we have the wrost and most expensive data plans, so streaming is not an option.

I have ~2GB of common apps (twitter, facebook, minor games). The problem is that I have some heavy games, like Need for speed, most wanted, which takes up to 2,5Gbs. Also, I use the Ps1 emulator, and I WISH that I could carry more ps1 games with me, but now I'm limited to just 4 (Castlevania SotN, Resident evil 2, Chrono cross and Siphon filter 2) since each one takes up to 600mb.

I also like to carry many videos and images in my phone, so it takes more 2GB.

There are other things (Cache, other downloads), but right now I just have 1,2Gb's left (I'm with a galaxy nexus) that I keep free if I need to record some videos or take photos (and to prevent the "YOU HAVE ALMOST NOTHING OF FREE SPACE AVAILABLE! QUICKLY, ERASE ALL YOUR DATA!" message from appearing).

Right now, the only thing that is keeping me from buying the Nexus 4... Well, when it start selling again at play store, is the lack of OTG support, in which I would put all my ps1 games and videos in a pen drive.

Google doesn't want us using micro sd's in our phones? Fine. But at least it should sell a 32Gb's version.
[Nexus 4 General] CurtisD88:
When I come to needing more space; until then I will be fine with 16GB. I have a Desire HD, use a 16GB SD and only used 4.5GB. I'll be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] CoolApps:
To messure this out...

16GB = 8GB Internal SD - 8GB Data

8GB = 4GB Internal SD - 4GB Data

Data size may very due to system partition.
[Nexus 4 General] Kick-Ass Joe:
I purchased kingston wi drive 64th and it's awesome! Great for movie storage.
[Nexus 4 General] eyan2011:
The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. Every Nexus 4 will be an unlocked device, and while that means no more pointless waiting for software updates (looking at you Verizon Galaxy Nexus), it also means no LTE radios.

The other small letdown is the phone's meager onboard storage options. The Nexus 4 starts at $299 with 8GB; $349 gets you 16GB
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
HSPA+ is fast enough.
[Nexus 4 General] eyan2011:
Agreed.. but still $300 for an unlocked smartphone with those specs!!!!

You'd be stupid to pass up such a sweet deal! I'll gladly get over lte for that price
[Nexus 4 General] eyan2011:
But this really concerns me the point of a quad-core when you don't have the storage to download more than 1-2 games that will utilize the specs? For example, most Gameloft and EA games that could use these specs are easily 1.8 gb or more. On an 8gb phone, unless you use cloud services, I'll cry within a few months for sure. I wish Google can ditch the idea of having only internal storage (Yeah !!! Like that's ever gonna happen but still) and come up with external storage like on the S3 and note 2 .. a 32gb MicroSD card for all my music, videos, camera pictures, files etc..
[Nexus 4 General] WhySoSerious_058:
if I go with this I would use the USB OTG and stickmount app I use on my nexus 7. I've done pretty good using dropbox and a 16gb flash drive with my 8gb N7. Wondering if the photo sphere will be able to be ported to my Sprint SG3. And yeah 300 for a phone and no commitment is awesome.
[Nexus 4 General] SeatownGST:
Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.

Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] djluis48:
Agreed. Even though is nice to have the feature, HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
[Nexus 4 General] Uchmanpj:
I'm grandfathered into Unlimited LTE with Verizon... WTH am I supposed to do?!? I'm assuming I either have to wait it out OR jump on the Note 2
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.
[Nexus 4 General] Nospin:
Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
I suspect all that will be required is a different software radio, not hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.
[Nexus 4 General] eyan2011:
Sweet.. im almost gonna finish my job in india by the time I head back home i can depend on t mobile... and sell my unlocked s3 for public purpose and keep my note 2 for gaming, artist and business related purposes...... cuz im soooooooo gonna get the nexus 10... the screen ppi & battery.. this tablet screen hands down beats any ipads or any tablets on the market... Nexus 10 is a beast...
[Nexus 4 General] stretched:
The Verge article for those who missed it http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte I hope this pushes carriers to be more open.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.

I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.

I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
Same here...I get like 5 down and 1.5-2 up on my 7.2 mbit radio so anything will be an upgrade. I suspect the Nexus 4 will top out around 10-12 down and the same 1.5-2 up on T-Mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] SeatownGST:
Bingo. The 3G service is deprecated and the apps are requesting more and more data. So when you initially said "none" you were completely wrong. For example, the WSDOT app I used now is updated, and slower than ever. It gets a GPS lock then just grinds forever trying to sync up the map and traffic advisory overlays. That's all data. Since I am paying for smartphone monthly usage, I am wasting money now by continuing with 3G. It makes zero sense to perpetuate paying for 3G service. It's not a buzzword when it's a significant upgrade in throughput, and it can be any other acronym and I'd use that just as much.

I still think google is off their rocker to "wait it out" as they put it. And the Maxx HD television advertisement says it can do voice and data at the same time, on Verizon... if true, that would be pretty huge for us Verizon folks and our terrible CDMA 3G access, going to LTE and simultaneous voice/data.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
There is a difference between the gsm networks that the phone will actually run on and the CDMA /lte a Verizon or Sprint version would.

When people say I can't go without lte over att / T-Mobile networks for those tasks its rubbish to me.

Sure sprints and Verizon 3g is awful and I would never go back to them ( or have been on them in the first place) but we aren't comparing lte speeds to those. Its against the unlocked gsm networks.

Verizon network is great coverage wise. So is its lte speeds and coverage. Those are valid reasons to be with them and not switch.

But that I can't leave my lte speeds for a unlocked gsm phone because of the speed for the most basic smart phone tasks .is nonsense to me. That is what I am seeing more and more off. The omg I can't live without my lte /buzzword crap.
[Nexus 4 General] DarthDerron:
I'd spend the extra 50dollars for the extra 8GB, will be worth it in the long run since no micro Sd slot.
[Nexus 4 General] ntt1409:
8gb phone makes us considering which games to install but luckily, we have nexus 7. Its not to big and heavy to carry. Actually, playing game on bigger screen is more comfortable right? I have n7 and will get the n4 outright.
[Nexus 4 General] killman2659:
I would just download Angry Birds and a few other games like Jet Pack joyride and I'm set...I don't expect to go hardcore on a smartphone

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Did I just read carriers and more open in the same sentence??? :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] johnnyp500:
Umm... There is no 4G LTE? Does that bother anyone?

Hi

I really wanted to get this phone but the fact that it doesn't have 4G LTE capabilities is really making me reconsider.

I'm interested in hearing what your thoughts are on the matter and whether or not 4G LTE is a deal breaker to y'all

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] dpaul007:
Nope. I'm lucky to get 3g
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
Nope not bothered. LTE is almost non existent and stupidly expensive in the UK
[Nexus 4 General] ap3604:
This is a just duplicate thread of an earlier one here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1962588

I'll let the mod's know to merge this one into the earlier one.

Also OP do you actually think this subject hasn't been covered a bunch of times already? :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] ijip:
only if 15-20 megs is not enough for you on mobile ;P

The only concern i have is the memory, but i have a feeling a 32 gig will be coming down in months like what has happened with the nexus7.

and i hope the release a white version too -=)
[Nexus 4 General] Anubis007:
there are like tons of whinin.. i mean threads about this. please post it somewhere else.

as for your question, you have to see for yourself whether LTE is like the air you breathe or HSPA+ is fast enough.
[Nexus 4 General] versd:
theres plenty of press from Google themselves why there is no LTE. and I totally agree. Even if I lived somewhere with LTE, I travel enough to be glad they included pentaband 3g unlocked.

Also with decent 3g coverage, there are not really many times I need the speed of LTE. if it saves battery life and cost, im all for it.
[Nexus 4 General] Venekor:
LTE wont be worthwhile in the UK for another two years at least so no...

What puts me off is 16GB of storage only, no 32GB model and no Micro SD slot. I just know if I buy one at 16gb that they'll release a 32gb model like a month later so I'll wait to see if they do.
[Nexus 4 General] johnnyp500:
How can I post it somewhere else if I've already posted it? Youre a smart one huh?

Anyway I'm just looking for opinions who cares if its been posted before? I havent seen the earlier post or posts and i want to post my question. Youre in a free country no one is forcing you to a. Read it b. Reply to it. If you do reply to it get to the subject or shut up

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] innov8ion:
It's good that Google skipped out on Verizon because the Samsung Galaxy experience on Verizon was and is compromised. No Google Wallet and slow updates. :/