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[Nexus 4 General] thunderger:
I took a look into google wallet and I can see that my credit card data is stored but there is no payment done by this crappy kind of software. Oh google you did a very bad job here in Europe, especially Germany. But be aware of customer care institutions calling you :D
[Nexus 4 General] Stave:
I've exactly the same (in french), IDK what to do ..
[Nexus 4 General] turbo_lew:
At last got one, yay only the 8 GB but after 45mins of trying also my black ops 2 care package has turned up.
[Nexus 4 General] Seeandfeel:
I think i had luck the 1st Time in my Life ;) - I only ordered 1.

Eventually some People ordered more.. :(
[Nexus 4 General] subhani:
uk just got 8gb in stock
[Nexus 4 General] krohme:
I'm sooo pissed! :mad: the servers kept messing me about - item in basket - error - google play crashes and shi*t like that, now the freakin 16gb is sold out!! why not stock plenty when u know we want it google???????????????????????????????? :mad::mad::mad:
[Nexus 4 General] NelsonTheMoron:
To the members in the US, is anyone starting to notice any lag with the Play store? The pages are loading slightly slower...(I am watching the page while reading this. Got nothing else to do right now except wait...)
[Nexus 4 General] AlohaMatt:
ATTN: senior member

Call Google and verify for others that if you are an American Citizen overseas - you CAN order the device from an overseas Play store and get it now.

Just us a proxy server for your IP.
[Nexus 4 General] lombardo8:
Now 16GB has disappeared from the page! 4k U Google!
[Nexus 4 General] lennshow66:
16Gb in the UK are gone
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
You'd be a very brave man to be not use a screen protector. I have no problem using the n4 with one hand, and my hands are little....It's not as comfortable using it with one hand without a case. Laquisha can bite me.

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I think he meant a $50.00 restocking fee. At least I hope that's what he meant..lol
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
It's here. And there's a surprise inside...

An extra 8GB of storage.

Yep. I ordered the 8, but they sent me the 16. I think we can reasonably infer that they are flat out of 8GB stock.

**********************

Where I stand now

I wanted this phone so bad, and worked so hard (as far as online retail shopping goes) to get it. But now that it's here, I haven't opened it, and I don't plan to. In the intervening 35 days, I've decided I don't want to further my relationship with Google products and services at this time.

Even after they surprised me with a 16GB, I still get the feeling they just did it because that's all they had, and they truly don't care that they violated numerous promises and standard business practices.

Even after some cool bloke at reddit decided to give me a free bumper, my heart's just not in it anymore.

If Google suddenly has a change of heart and decides to refund all charges to make it right, I'll [edit] perhaps buy another one. I sold mine to a fellow Nov 13 sufferer at cost.

Edit 2: It's gone, I sold it.

No, I did not mark it up to make a profit. I just wanted out. I know myself, and I knew I'll never be happy with the thing now, no matter how amazing it is.

Thanks for a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad customer experience, Google.

And thank you, folks in this thread, from the bottom of my heart, for your community and support. This kind of thing is why I love the internet, and I hope we can all band together again sometime – just not over a Google device! Much love.

Yours truly,

Thomas
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Yeah.. I'm not a fan of cases and I liked it. So thin and it felt good in the hand. Unlike the bumper..

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Extreme. Use the phone, it's awesome.
[Nexus 4 General] IrideAgro:
Sorry. Yes. $50 restocking fee.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I respect your decision bro but I would keep it its an amazing phone. I think you would really enjoy it.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
How much , cost of a 8gb , I'll take it . PayPal fully loaded :) need to send it to India for a buddy , PM me if interested
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
:( But I hate screen protectors...

Is it really that bad, even if I have a case on it?
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I've never used a phone/tablet naked, maybe for 5 minutes right before I was applying a new screen protector, but that's it. I'm really ocd about my stuff, I just couldn't take the chance of something happening and scratching the screen... it's going to sound stupid to people but if I was to scratch my screen, dent, anything, it would be no good to me. I'd get rid of the device. Sounds dumb, I know, but my ocd wouldn't allow such a blemish :/
[Nexus 4 General] boondoc:
i hate screen protectors and cases but after reading i bought a bumper when they came back and now i'm looking for a front and back screen protector that doesn't cost $25. i've tried to wade through the threads in the accessory forum but it's a bunch of "xyz is the best, smooth clear, and doesn't dent" "no xyz sucks abc is the best" ad nauseum
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
Well the big thing with the Nexus 4 is that the screen is right on top of the digitizer and if the screen cracks (not scratches, but cracks, usually), it's 100% broken and won't respond to touch.

That's why I'd rather have the Diztronic I've got.

I've had such iffy luck with screen protectors though... mostly they just hinder the touch for me (especially the Otterbox on my old iPod touch 4th generation. =/
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Sgp steinheil ultra crystal dual, (amazon)front and back, $13.99 free shipping. Or best skins ever, full body for $6.something. Go to their website.

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I highly recommend SGP steinheil. Ive been using their screen protectors forever, they are just like glass.
[Nexus 4 General] itpromike:
Please sir, I would love to buy this. I will give you the cost of the 16GB model plus some even though you haven't asked for it.
[Nexus 4 General] Gibsonflyingv:
Hey Google, I'll gladly accept a 16GB instead of that silly 8GB I ordered. I might not even be mad anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
Seconded.....In the long arduous wait for the Nexus I looked at purchasing an S3 and a DNA. My Nexus 4 takes a massive spray sh!t on those phones. I'm so glad I waited. It's worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'm all for "out of principal", and I've said the same thing as you after the nexus 7 fiasco, but here I am. Why? Because Google isn't going to know that I've boycott them, and it's me that's losing out. That's just my opinion. But I understand what you're saying.
[Nexus 4 General] itpromike:
I think you're missing the essence and heart behind 'out of principal'. It doesn't matter if Google knows, he'll know. That's why it's out of principal and not out of spite... Know what I mean?
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
Hmm...that's not a bad price and I did pay almost $400 for my 16GB N4 so I'd probably do well in protecting it. :P...it's not one of those wet apply protectors, is it?

How would that work with the Diztronic, does anyone know? I'll probably leave the factory protector on the back, would that be enough?
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
I don't think anyone else should do what I'm doing. I have no doubt that it is awesome - I'm sure it will bring lots of joy to many. Truly, I'm glad you dig it.

I feel you, D. It's not a principle thing. I just know I'll never be happy with it now. And it's not just like I'll be ambivalent about it while being blown away by the processing power and graphics and smoothness. I'll hate it.

I once chased a girl around for months and made an utter fool of myself trying to get her attention. And eventually, I got what I wanted. We got together, and she was great, really probably worth all the effort. But I just never felt good about how stupid I had to act to get there, and I promised myself I wouldn't do it again.

And along came this phone...

For context, this was going to be my first smart phone. I've been watching and lurking since the G1, but never bit. I've watched Apple with loathing and longing, but never bit. Then this Nexus 4 came trolling along, and I bit. Hard. And learned my lesson. Again.

Looking back, I wish I had just canceled weeks ago. Meh. Enough negative Thomas.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Nope. Not a wet install, self stick. The sides are short so if you use a case they won't peel back.

And it's whatever you're comfortable with. If you think the back is good enough and you hardly drop your phone or don't see any accidents happening then it's good enough. I'm super cautious so I go as much protecting as I can.

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Thanks for the pity. My phone died while writing this...anyway, I hear you. What phone will go with then?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Sorry Thomas...I'd highly recommend the GNote2 or the GS3 if the note's too big. Cheers bud!
[Nexus 4 General] Valerianus:
So, does anyone know when LG's next shipment of Nexus 4s is heading to Google's inventory?
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
The fact that it's self-stick makes me feel a bit better about it. I'll definitely order them next pay check.

Thanks! :D
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Dude... if you don't want it because you just want a refund then cool. Otherwise, why not be practical and keep it? You got your shipping refunded and got an extra 8GB of storage and $50 off an already nice device. I understand principles and all, but unless you were trying to cancel the entire time I would just keep the thing. Your choice of course.
[Nexus 4 General] boondoc:
thanks. after doing some research i think i'm going to go with the spigen... but since my phone is nowhere in sight i'm going to wait until the 26th when they're supposed to be having a day after christmas sale.

hmm.... but now xtremeguard is having an 82% off 2 sale with the code 82off2 decisions decisions...
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
You. Will. Scratch. It.

Trust me... they will come from out of nowhere. They may be faint, but if you are a scratch-adverse, OCD person like me you will drive yourself crazy, and with two sides of glass you will get them that much faster. I have one hair line scratch on my screen (phone going back), from having no protector for one week. Never used anything other than a really good cleaning cloth... and it's clean. Any dust can be a silica particle. One of those driving across your screen is all it takes. Plus... there's Murphy's Law at play too, the more you like something, the more chance it will get wrecked.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
You're welcome! They are $13.99 on Amazon with free shipping. You'll love them!
[Nexus 4 General] jakejm79:
Well first off the play store is closer $400 when you factor in tax and shipping, if you buy from Ebay or CL you wont be paying tax and shipping is normally free. Also a seller that sells one on ebay for $500, nets only about $430, hardly lining their pockets and scamming you if they paid $400 for it in the first place. People are paying a premium to have the phone now, nothing wrong with that, since all electronics depreciate at a pretty quick rate you are probably loosing $50+ in depreciation (be it from this device when you sell it on or from selling on the device you are replacing) with a 7+ week wait.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
They just restocked too, they were out for a few days. Now who do you mean are having a sale? Spg? On Amazon?
[Nexus 4 General] jakejm79:
Isn't the point of surveys to provide feedback negative or positive, I think it's great, you are more likely to fill it out honestly if you are having a problem rather than just clicking through it or ignoring it. How can they improve if they aren't told whats wrong?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
I have Best Skins Ever on mine. You have to really line the sides up right. Try to get it as even as possible... they should ride right up to where the screen curls inward on the side edges, otherwise you will get a really ugly line that looks lifted on one side, even after you get it to stay down. I was able to get my Diztronic on there without lifting the front protector by starting the install from the top. Then you kind of get one side attached. I was able to keep it from peeling the protector by using a credit card on the edges of the case when seating the phone in near the bottom side corners. If the phone is evenly lined up then the card holding the TPU on the edges up until the thing is totally on will not peel your protector. If it peels just a little you can push it back down without marring the protector. Or alternatively you can get a dry one like the SGP ones that are cut smaller or the case fit XO Skins.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I think spg did a revision, still not edge to edge but more coverage than the first version.

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I agree, but I think they are picking the wrong time to do these surveys, there are a lot of mad people out there, I would think all their responses would be negitive...normally Google is great. Plus they can't really improve right now during this mess.
[Nexus 4 General] boondoc:
nope, on their site https://www.spigen.com/holiday if you scroll down on the right it says they'll be having an after christmas sale on the 26th
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
And... just like that the thread goes dead again. Another day and no RMA shipping notices. At least I got a good 2 hours studying in (Cool story eh bro?). Might as well go to bed a little earlier tonight. Tomorrow is really the tipping point for practical purposes in getting this thing before the New Year. Some early Thursday, early flight orders might get early deliveries changed to Friday, but it seems an actual minimum 3 week wait for RMA now that it's been 13 days already for me. Dirty has been waiting almost 3 weeks already. If I didn't need the monitor I'm using right now, I would have already thrown it against the wall.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Nice! Wonder if it'll be the whole store or select items...I'm too impatient. I want them now :) Thanks for the link!
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
:) If they're about as decent as they sound, they shouldn't be too bad!

I'll probably go for a dry protector. Not too much of a fan of the wet ones. I tried to use a wet protector on my Optimus V before I got my NS4G and it turned out awful...ended up ruining both protectors Otterbox sent me.

As long as the screen protector keeps things decent with friction and whatnot and doesn't affect the visual of the screen, I don't mind a protector. Also, as you mentioned the Diztronic, it has to fit under the Diztronic I have.

What would you personally say about keeping the back factory protector on?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
I can't recall which brand I tried, but it was a wet-apply. The Diz went on easy the next day, but in the end I trashed the protector, because I LOVE LOVE LOVE the smoothness of the raw screen...slicker than a baby's bottom. I'm surprised Dirty isn't more vocal about the Diz..it's a near-perfect case for improving grip, adding a bit of dropsie protection, and is styled to keep the nice lines of the phone, without adding bulk. It would be hard for me to improve upon it, as is. It's a deal, imho.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Next to cruzer lite the diztronic cases are my favorite, but the only diztronic cases I have right now are the glitter flex cases, not sure you guys would want to hear how fabulous my glitter nexus 4 cases are :D

Unless you do, promise I won't tell anyone.

But I have their matte and glossy cases for other phones and I do plan on getting another diztronic one, the matte back one....I like the purple.
[Nexus 4 General] jakejm79:
I have XO skin on the front and back, wet apply, was my first time applying a screen protector, front came out pretty good, the fit isn't 100% at the corners it doesn't stick to the curves in a couple of tiny spots, but the edges are good. I over stretched the cut out around the prox sensor so it isn't perfect there but I'm happy with it since I wont have any scratches. Again I butchered the back, but that is already all marked up, so I'm just happy it wasn't the actual glass.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
If SGP makes a back protector I would get that too. The factory one is nice but it's not made for longevity. It will eventually fall off, and it picks up scratches very easily. I still have mine on, but that's because I'm not wasting one of my wet ones for a phone that's going back. You could even put a wet one on there, as there are no curves to worry about and the added friction on flat surfaces and "self healing" properties are better IMO than the dry ones. Plus, you want a little more grip on the back and aren't rubbing your fingers all over the back like the front. The new wet type are much better than the old. They feel more like naked glass, and don't really detract from the experience. BSE, Skinomi, Zagg advanced (or whatever their new one is called) and a few others have switched to the newer type material. I've not noticed any of the old rainbow or speckles the old type tended to get on the newer ones (last 6 months or so).

Final recommendation... get an SGP or similar dry for the front and get a wet one for the back! Your phone will thank you. Well, it won't but you will thank yourself for having some piece of mind that you won't scratch up what is admittedly a fragile phone. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
I bet it's fabulous! :p (I'm from EssEff, and we're equal-opportunity flirts) :D Yeah, the TPU is really the shizz...the wife got the hand-me-down GS3, and I got her the blue Diz for it...she LOVES it (Pearl Blue phone). Try out black, and if you like it, you'll love the purple.
[Nexus 4 General] boondoc:
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/google/nexus-4/google-nexus-4-screen-protector-steinheil-dual.html
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
You should get her the pink glitter case for the s3! She'd love it!

http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Gli...9&sr=8-5&keywords=diztronic+samsung+galaxy+s3

Or clear, which may go better with the pearl blue color of the phone.

http://www.amazon.com/Diztronic-Gli...bile-Packaging/dp/B0089F5BI4/ref=pd_sim_cps_1

Or maybe the black glitter

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008WOVLE0/ref=cm_ciu_pl_B008WOVLE0_mo2Q8EZ8QKIF6EZ
[Nexus 4 General] onishchuk4:
I might be getting my RMA replacement finally after 2 weeks! Just checked my CC account and they charged it again yesterday. So thats a good sign considering that the hold that was placed 2 weeks ago dropped off last week. I called them and they said since they had no stock, they were dropping the hold charges. Fingers crossed!
[Nexus 4 General] Marcusw882000:
Has anybody that ordered on the 29th had their order ship?
[Nexus 4 General] ImHavenHart:
Most of my friends and family have received theirs phones. There's 3 of us left. 2 Nov 27thers and 1 Dec 5ther. We were all switched over to "preorder" from "pending around Dec 12th and all told that our items will ship the evening of Nov 19th the latest, that's tomorrow, so here's hoping. Two of the phones were Christmas gifts and thus, if they don't arrive, we will need to go ahead and cancel our cards and purchase something else, the Optimus G most likely. I'm awaiting for my second order, which I attempted unsuccessfully to cancel. My anger over the situation has evolved into acceptance and if my phone ships this week I'll keep it. If it doesn't then I'll be forced to go with the Optimus G. I'm loving my Note 2 and either the Optimus G or N4 will be great companions for it. Have any Nov 27thers received shipping notices today?
[Nexus 4 General] slyfoxy12:
Looks like I was incredibly wrong, my order when through a little after midnight but it seems to be on express delivery as now it seems to be waiting ready to go out at my nearest depo.

So that's Nexus 16GB order on 4 December 2012 05:09:57 UTC to (shipping) 19 December 2012 00:31 UTC which was apart of the 1 to 2 week orders.

It's not over till its in my hands but it is so close, I hope to best to anyone who has an order before Christmas in the UK, it currently looks like based on posts on forums etc. they are shipping in batches of every 6 to 8 hours around the clock to make this happen and the fact it's on express delivery means if it shows up even late in the morning it should still reach you next day, which is a very very positive thing.

I was very doubful, I assumed they'd be doing a big batch as soon as they show up and that would be it but it doesn't look like that, they are very incremental so have hope, for this week a lone there's at least another 4 or 5 batches going out I would imagine as long as stock holds up.

One final note, don't bother using the TNT app for Android, it doesn't seem to find the consignments/references, it was by fluke I clicked the link again and it actually showed the tracking data.
[Nexus 4 General] whatzup282:
finally got my phones delivered today.

something really weird happened.

so i ordered four nexus4's 2-8GB's and 2-16GB's on the 27th nov, and got shipped out on the 17th, received them on the 18th.

got home from work and opening up the box, all four devices are 16GB's!

did google ran out of 8GB's and decided they send out 16GB instead or was it a mistake? either way im happy lol.

the device is awesome tho. but coming from a GN, the screen does look a bit washed out. but then again its IPS+
[Nexus 4 General] martinofyre:
Update: received another shipping email from google 2:20 this morning, phone to be delivered today, I may have just done a white wee wee...Went into the Three store last night to check they had stock of Sim Free package Microsims, "Oh, another one who ordered a Nexus 4" said the salesman. Is it surprising there isn't a queue out the door? Will be very interested to see if this is the biggest selling phone behind the fruity 5 and sammy 3!
[Nexus 4 General] theTqM:
Waiting on an 8gb here.

Ordered on Nov. 27th, 3pm. Was given 4-5 week shipping estimate.

Been on Pre-ordered status since December 7th which puts me in Level 2 limbo

Definitely looking forward to the week starting Christmas day and most definitely the longest I've had to wait for any singular product.

I'm finding it rather amusing reading through all the impatience on here, kudos to those of you who are not complaining about your long wait.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Personally, from my experience working in CS, and on call centres I would say this.

It's all about numbers, how many of this, what percentage of that.

You get measured personally and as a group by things called KPIs, key performance indicators, and are basically a way for the managers to quantify what's going on. If the department KPIs are low, they get looked into and if needed prioritized.

So in a funny way it's the most direct method of telling a company they're screwing up, as long as it's done honesyly and correctly.

A note about the generic responses, they may have been told to follow a script, especially new starters (we've all been there) so the message is correct, so of the longer time reps are great at going off script but keeping the message, and some have a natural flair for it.

Just my thoughts.
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
I'm less worried about the wait than I am with getting a defective device. However, I don't think that'll be too hard.
[Nexus 4 General] cyanide911:
So many people getting 16GBs instead of 8GBs. Is google screwing up yet again?
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Who else is left Nov 13th?

Why are we talking about screen protectors here? Seriously guys, please stay on topic.