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[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Hi guys, sorry I've been posting mostly in the UK thread due to time zones etc, but here's an update in case you missed it...

At around 09:30 on 15th Dec, I wrote to Dan and asked if he give us any more information on the direction that they are going, as even though Germany and Canada have received deliveries, the large majority of us are still completely in the dark. His response an hour later, is below...

"We are all working through the nights and weekends to resolve this issue, including the seven points you raise.

I can offer an unreserved apology for our service and communication failures in this process.

I am optimistic that we will be able to share some positive news shortly, but I do not want to cause any more disappointment by making a commitment until we are 100% sure we can deliver on it.

I realise that the people who ordered the Nexus 4 so early are among our most committed and loyal users and we are doing all we can to put things right.

Dan"

There's been a few posts on the UK thread about the meaning of this and how to take it if you want to check them out.
[Nexus 4 General] hmendez787:
lol I will reorder now!!!
[Nexus 4 General] jellydroid13:
Did you miss the part about it being out of stock? :P
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Damnit Dan, you're making it hard for me to hate you. If this is true, and I hope it is, thank god they aren't as uncaring as I thought.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] ShaunMichael80:
How do you cancel if you reorder
[Nexus 4 General] kelmar13:
I sure hope this is the case because right now I'm pretty pissed about this whole thing (I can only imagine the frustration of those that ordered on the 13th).

Perhaps this is why the 16gb is sold out in the USA?
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
Not only USA, germany aswell.
[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
Did any dec 1,2,3 orders ( USA) see any change?
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
I honestly think they should bring everything to a screeching halt with ordering and focus on filling every single device order they have by Christmas. Then, to anyone whose shipping window has expired by the time they receive their device, they should not only refund their shipping, but offer either an accessory (bumper, mythical charging orb) or Play Store credit, along with an apology to each person followed by "we sincerely appreciate your business, extraordinary patience, and hope you buy again from us in the future."

Pipe dream.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] cchaos:
Hopefully, with Nexus 4 being out of stock, this is what they are doing?
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
I meant ALL devices.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
They seem to have the Nexus 7 and Acer C7 under control. The Samsung Chromebook has been sold out for a while so that doesn't matter, so maybe they should just quit selling the Nexus 4 & 10.

I cancelled both my 16GB orders so I could order another, and then they got sold out. Luckily they only cancelled one so hopefully the other one won't get cancelled.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] hostilevader:
Placed my order on December 12th, and still no "Google has received...". I've just the first e-mail, but the phone is always in pre-order.

After 48 hours? Come on. Do they work on Saturday and Sunday?
[Nexus 4 General] lanman2k:
Is there a spreadsheet keeping tabs on the Nov 27 orders?
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Ah OK o see. Well at least u got that order in I'm supposed to try my luck at getting my father one he won't buy from eBay or cl cause he wants to make sure he has his warranty. Anyone know of a T Mobile around Chicago that has any N4's

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Call and ask to talk to a returns CSR. Thats who can manually cancel cancel your order even when the computer link won't.

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Hahaha too funny I was gonna buy a few sets I wish I had now I could shipped u a set for a stamp as we live probably 30 min from each other.
[Nexus 4 General] akashvani:
That is how low is my expectation has gone down with Google.
[Nexus 4 General] ed10000:
Would any of you trade your Nexus 4 for a Galaxy Note 2 N7100? Received that offer for my N4, I'm tempted but can't decide.
[Nexus 4 General] hostilevader:
How long between hitting CANCEL e having my money back? :mad:

Out of stock. Could this be a problem? Actually the didn't take my money FOR REAL, I just see less availability.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Nope not a chance I do like the Note 2 but not for my Sexy Nexi not a chance.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
i would consider it but i have owned the n7100 and have to say i like thw n4 much better

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] boondoc:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmM6lFxEl6RMdHhabEZuYjJIUEdwNFd0TkJrNmY1amc#gid=1

a spreadsheet tracking redditor orders.
[Nexus 4 General] Atari-:
Oh I forgot to say, my Nexus 4 was delivered on the 13th and it actually shipped the 12th. It got here super fast to Puerto Rico. It got here in 1 day that's insane :D Ordered the 27th 5:02 PM PST, date changed on the Play Store to the 12th, the day before I got charged and the 13th I had the phone in my hands! :)
[Nexus 4 General] vikramhere:
Placed an order for N4 16GB yesterday, what are the chances that it will be delivered by Valentines day? I have ordered it as a gift to my wifey ;)
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
By Valentines? Probably a decent chance.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
By Valentine's Day... If I was a betting man (which I am) I would bet yes u will have it.

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[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
From what I can tell looking around the net, user reports and checking here ( http://www.n4checker.com/ ) it's all regions that have previously been taking orders for both models of N4, and bumpers.

All now showing as "out of stock" I'm hopeful this is so they can get on top of things, but that's my interpretation.
[Nexus 4 General] spacemanvt:
I ordered a 16 gb on :

Order Date: November 28, 2012 3:19:12 PM UTC-5

I am really hoping to get it before xmas... is it worth even calling or begging?
[Nexus 4 General] smarki:
Ordered mine on November 28, 2012 1:04:10 PM UTC-8, and am really frustrated at google for sending phones ordered in Dec.

I sent them a mail about it a few days ago, but no reply yet :/
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Why are you asking us? They are definitely different phones, go check out a note 2 for yourself, only you can decide.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Being an owner of the n7000, which I love, I can say with 100% fact no, I wouldn't trade.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Well I don't think it is but if u do begging will get u know where u have to sound pissed off. But if u ordered on the 28th your estimated shipping time isn't even close yet so all they will do is tell u to wait till your estimated shipping date. Some people from the 13th ,some from the 27th with the early shipping times, and rma's should be the ones that Google is helping and focused on right now.

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[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Damn straight! :)

How's your bumper?
[Nexus 4 General] bakedcricket:
Just curious, has anyone received a 8gb set yet? Or has it been completely out of stock?
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I did but I ordered on the 13th I haven't seen too many 8gb orders from the re-release ship

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[Nexus 4 General] adidas007:
Google. You can do it. Ship all the pending devices in one month and then have a new begining with loads of stock. :D
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Your a good man. No worries, I emailed the guy to see what's going on. I'll post what his reply was once I get it. I just want them because the speaker is muffled when I put the phone down. I didn't read past posts about this so let me know how well they work out for you.

To keep things on topic. It's been a week since I placed an rma order and still no word on shipping
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yes I'll let u know I'm getting them for that same reason. I hope your RMA order shows up soon.

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[Nexus 4 General] adityamunshi:
8GB 27th 7-8 weeks estimate order status changed from pending to pre-order d. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing?..
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Love my bumper!!! There are a few things that are peeving me, like the fact I can see a little bit of the bezel at the top and bottom, to me it looks kinda crazy, like two bezels going on. And it's a little more slippery with the bumper. Other than that, it's exactly what I wanted, exactly the look I was going for. The power button is so much easier to feel for now...and push in. Now I'm not sure I'll use any of the tpu's I bought...I'll probably use tpu cases for the times where bumper protection won't do, like the stumbling home nights :)
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Ha!I never thought about those nights... Ima have to get a case now. As for the bumper, I love it too. I ordered 2. If the fiance doesn't want the other one, I'll end up selling it to someone here.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Dibs?

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] siloner:
Done
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
:D

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
The next time, if there is a next time, they stock the bumpers I'm grabbing like 10....it's just crazy they sold out in like a couple of hours.
[Nexus 4 General] boondoc:
but with the luck of the people here on xda next time they come in stock they'll have like a million of them.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Haaaahaaa! So true, so so true! That would totally be my luck, stuck with 10 bumpers because they're available everywhere now. I've noticed that the prices on eBay for them have dropped a lot. Figures, I buy one from there and the next day the play store gets them, and sellers drop the price by $20-$30. Yup...that's my luck :/
[Nexus 4 General] @127.0.0.1:
I going to pretend that google is that screwed up I may get 2 for the price of one.. but I guess I am out of luck. Companies never screw up in favour of the cmr do they :(
[Nexus 4 General] the maliks:
OK, for everyone waiting on there RMA, hold on. Just finish talking to the Manager Keith. The RMA are also back ordered to 3-5 weeks. I ordered mine on Dec 1. So start calling instead of wait in limbo.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
y would u start calling what will that get u lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Psilocin:
You are the first one I have seen that is in the same 7-8wk window as me.

But nothing to worry about. They changed all the orders to "preorder" status two days ago.
[Nexus 4 General] Macintoshian:
If anybody got their phones who ordered on 27th Nov with (4-5 week) bracket. Please reply here...
[Nexus 4 General] terracode:
Received on Friday.
[Nexus 4 General] spaceman860:
My two will be here on Mon so close yet so far

Sent from my BAKED N7
[Nexus 4 General] Gvr4-330:
Strangely enough, I ordered a 16GB Dec 11 when it said ships in 6-7 weeks. Got a shipping notification Dec 12th, and it arrived on Dec 13th.

It's really sad how badly they messed this all up. Good luck everyone!
[Nexus 4 General] klownkillah:
Calling won't get you anywhere except starting over with a new CSR - it's better to reply to whatever email thread you have with Google Play.

That being said I was told it should ship within the timeframe listed on the receipt - not holding my breath but mine says within 1 week....

What does your RMA receipt show as a shipping estimate?
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Yeah, I have the same problem. In fumbling for the phone on the shelf of the nightstand I used to lift up the side with my finger when it was pinned against the inside wall of the shelf. My finger just slips off it now. It's definitely a conundrum because it helps with having more confidence that it's not going to slip off some surface easily, but it is a little more slippery to hold. I've still got it on there, but I do feel like I've almost dropped it much more often than before. In fact I don't recall ever almost dropping it until I put the bumper on it now that I think about it.
[Nexus 4 General] Macintoshian:
Thanks guys, I could breathe some air now.
[Nexus 4 General] the maliks:
Mine said 3-5 days, and now its changed to pre-order and 3-5 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] Capt.PP:
Second batch of 8GB and 16GB are sold out on PlayStore as of now.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
*sorry, quoted wrong person* It was suppose to for Maliks.

I've spoken to 2 managers this week, they told me Monday they are back ordered for rma's. Calling won't do a thing, trust me, nor will replying to their emails. The manager, Ben, told me he was trying to push my rma through yesterday, haven't heard anything and don't expect to. I've been waiting since the 1st.

It went to pre order status last week.

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Exactly, me either. When I was caseless and bumperless I never felt like it would just jump out of my hand, the grip on it naked is great..but I love the look of the bumper, looks like there is nothing on the phone....so you're right, it's definitely a conundrum :/ I bought 4 cruzer lite tpu cases and a Diztronic, I'll probably switch back and forth. The I-blason and kaycase are garbage. Rather nothing than use those two cases.
[Nexus 4 General] ImHavenHart:
I sold my N4 for the Note 2 yesterday. LOVE the Note 2, best decision I ever made. F Google.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
I would kick a baby for an N4, and you go and sell yours?

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
everyone has their own preferance i have another n4 ordered so ill probably trade one for the the note 2 when i get an offer like that

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ibarra21:
Nooo!! Google Play 8GB and 16GB are sold out, and I was gonna get my paycheck on monday to buy one. I already have accessories for the N4 lol.
[Nexus 4 General] ImHavenHart:
Ya know, I did not intend to sell it. Google F'ed me around so bad and so much, tying my money up for weeks, authorizing and re-authorizing my card which placed my money on hold repeatedly. Then sent 5 of my friends their phones and they ordered a week after me. Then when I called, a CS agent pretended that she was an answering machine while her coworkers laughed in the background. I attempted to cancel but the system wouldn't let me. I was so angry that I decided NO phone is worth all of this mistreatment. I wanted nothing to do with Google or their products after this. Once my N4 arrived, I hopped on Craigslist and sold it at a $100 profit within an hour of posting my ad. It was my way of having the last laugh and honestly the Note 2 is amazing, the features are incredible and I love the 5.5 inch display. It might not be for everyone but it's perfect for me. Incidentally I have a 2nd N4 arriving God knows when and I'm not sure what I will do with it. I doubt I'll keep both the Note 2 and N4 and I doubt I'll part with my Note 2 so it's safe to say that it will be sold as well. My decision was based on the fact that I don't want to do business with a company that treats its customers like sh*t and can't even manage to ship phones in the order in which the purchases were received., can't manage to provide honest answers and just trainwrecks left and right. I don't care how great the N4 "seems" to be, there's a ton of fabulous phones coming out in Q1 and Q2 of 2013 which is not far away, phones that will make the N4 seem not so fabulous, so f Google and their N4.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Braaaahaahaaa dude when I read that I laughed so hard. Well we all know who not to invite over when a baby is around. For real though it blows my mind too "but to each their own" I guess.

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[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
If they decided to change the bumper to have a soft rubber strip like the naked phone does I might buy another one. I think the hard plastic strip is what is giving it good rigidity and fit though. Probably would end up being too sloppy if it was soft on the outside. Or too difficult to manufacture and keep it sturdy and defect free if they tried to do both, like a soft strip on top of something rigid to keep it shaped.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
Ah, so it was out of principle. That's understandable. Have fun with your Note 2.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
You don't like to deal with a company that treats their customers bad but you're still using android? Makes sense.
[Nexus 4 General] ImHavenHart:
Yeah it was definitely the principle. Seeing my friends with their shiny new phones arrive within days of them ordering in December, yet I, who had waited on my computer on the 27th to order as soon as they went on sale, the system kept crashing, I even took the day off work to make sure I secured one. Yet it took me 3 straight hours of refreshing and trying to check out before I finally got one, honestly there's just no reason on the earth to be put through so much over a phone that won't even seem all that awesome within 6 months time. I'm happy for those who got their phones without hassle. You ordered on the 13th so obviously I feel badly that you're still waiting for your phone too. :(
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
I just want the updates and dev support. In 6 months time I'll still have that. I doubt I'll ever buy a device from Google again, though.

Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] padhy02:
Re: Nexus

Hi Anyone wants to sell an N4. Please PM me. I was about to order through play store via VPN today. But alas!

I am from India so no devices for me on google play. Please PM me if interested.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] ImHavenHart:
Yeah exactly, don't get me wrong, it's a really amazing phone, but I agree I doubt I'll ever order another Google device for fear of being put through their awful experience again.
[Nexus 4 General] Eric-1987:
Fear? You really experience fear from ordering a phone?
[Nexus 4 General] foxdigital2k2:
I ordered the 27th an 8gb and a 16gb and had 4-5 weeks shipping i am preordered and nothing else. Ive seen soo many people order after me get theirs. Makes me sad i really want my n4. I also reordered on the 10th a 16gb still no word on it. This really sucks
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
But that is the thrill of the hunt. Now that I have my N4, it's just a phone like the rest of them. A nicer phone than my GNex, but a phone nonetheless LOL I can't wait for the next Nexus phone!
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm with ya I'm a glutton for pain. As soon as I saw that there was something wrong with my Nov 13th order I started looking elsewhere and on Thanksgiving I got on CL and bought one for 400$. I'm impatient sometimes and I agree what Google has done is wrong anyone who has followed this thread knows how I feel but I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm not gonna buy from Google again cause I'm gonna buy the next N4 next year I know it. But I get it why others wouldn't but I want the top of the line which happens to be a Nexus.

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[Nexus 4 General] supguise:
You're still using Android, though...
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I pre ordered this one, along with their atmosphere case. Their bumper, from the description, seems to be "like" the rubber on the phone. We'll see.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AG0D52O/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_9?ie=UTF8&smid=A29LLD0WGS56WE

Atmosphere case

http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Atmosphere-Google-Nexus-Warranty/dp/B00AG0D4BQ/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y
[Nexus 4 General] ImHavenHart:
Yeah I actually thought about getting the HTC Windows phone 8X. I settled on at least making sure I don't use or purchase a Google phone for right now and I even switched to Bing as my default search engine. I know it doesnt matter to them, they're a billion dollar company and one less person using their search engine or phone doesn't make a difference to them, but it matters to me. I am still using Android but may not in the future. I know its a drastic reaction to Google's mistreatment but in a year I'll probably be over it and ready to give Google another try. I'm going to CES next month, so I'm already focused on my next phone and putting this N4 trauma behind me.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm excited to see how these cases work out we will see but the bumper looks like it has a better chance of not being so slippery. We will see here's a pick of the poetic bumper it looks more rubbery.

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[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
The experience wasn't that bad for me even though I didn't get shipment in 5 days. They gave me the bo email and got it to me within that. The 27th one came within the 3 weeks they estimated. They definitely screwed up many orders and didn't put a first class buying experience out there, but I'm not going to let it stop me from using a great piece of hardware. That's just silly

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I'd love to hear your thoughts. Especially since it's $6. Can buy quite a few $6 bumper variants for the price these eBay peeps are trying to extort.
[Nexus 4 General] diablonyc2:
Freakin again!

So I wake up to THIS EMAIL from GOOGLE Play:

"Thank you for your email, I sincerely apologize for the delay with your order.

At this time I can confirm that we are working to ship your order# 15731260465432498277.1505984540252640 out as soon as possible. We will be refunding your shipping charge as soon as your order does ship. We are expecting the order to ship within 3 weeks. Again, we sincerely apologize for the delay and we will ship your order as soon as stock is available.

I hope this information is helpful. If you have any questions please feel free to respond to this email. I will email you as soon as your order ships and the shipping charges are refunded.

Best,

Bianca

The Google Play Support Team "

THREE Weeks after a so called MONTH WAIT. WTF Google. It is just frustrating that there is no where to complain. It feels like I am talking to a wall at times.
[Nexus 4 General] athani:
I'm a 4-5 weeker from 29 Nov. Do we have any love from Google yet?
[Nexus 4 General] klownkillah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ZQ2wASewQ
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
Guys, can we all check our bank accounts, please post if anything has changed including your original estimated shipping please!

In the UK money appears to be going out of accounts again!!!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'll let you know when I get it.

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Hey, that's our bumper!!! Can't wait, and can't wait for the atmosphere case too! So glad you found these!

Watch, I'll end up loving the $6 bumper more than the $70 bumper :/ You know, cuz I'm a glutton and all :)
[Nexus 4 General] munscd:
Some activity... Got an email that my 11/13 8GB (I'm one of the 11/13 orders in Limbo 3) order was on hold and had to change my credit card. This is the first email I've gotten since it was put on backorder then going to ship the week of the 26th then nothing. So I changed the credit card and am back in pre-order status. The date is now updated to Dec 15th. So this means that either the 8GB will ship soon, or I'm now moved to the end of the que and will have to wait until all the other 8GBs are fulfilled. Bet it's the second. Just thought I'd post to say that there's finally SOME kind of actions going on. And I did file a BBB complaint yesterday, by the way. Still not counting on receiving anything anytime soon, and not planning on continuing the useless fight with ignorant and powerless CSRs.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Oh gawd, I'll like...like flip my poo if money is missing.
[Nexus 4 General] smadger:
What region did you order from?