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[Nexus 4 General] elias0441:
Google put up a phone on sale on Tuesday nov 13th. On launch day, google screwed people up when checking out their carts, Google says the saw an overwhelming high demand rate, and alot of people didn't get a chance to make an order.

The next day google sent emails to some people saying that their orders might take up to 3 weeks to deliver, and as an apology they offered free 2 day shipping to those people ( betrayed- Limbo People ).

Oh well, life sucks sometimes

But my question is how you people manage to create 1500 pages about something that can be summarized in 4 lines.

Please tell me because I have a 15 page English paper due next week and I only have 2 pages so far.

Thank you
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Mostly talking about drinking and post of people complaining about us complaining
[Nexus 4 General] Good Guy Mark:
I was hoping for my phone by Tuesday cause I'm going to be off for Thanksgiving break and it's supposed to ship to my dorm T_T
[Nexus 4 General] Dr Zoidberg:
I think you are going to do very well on your paper. You seem to have succinctly capture an executive summary of the situation. That being said, if the paper is due next week, you better get cracking.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Indeed, there is lots of complaining lol
[Nexus 4 General] jnewman1991:
And lots of drinking at night.
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
We should bring up our story to the consumerist. Hopefully they can publish something to get the Google exec team to notice.
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
If they told me this? With a capital if? Thanks for calling me a liar. Have fun in this thread.

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Meh. OK. Idgaf anymore, and I'm sorry for even posting it. Carry on.
[Nexus 4 General] the_cosworth:
Well hopefully you proof read your paper better than you did that post. Alot is not a word, months should have capitals, Google says that THEY saw an overwhelming demand.

;)

A lot of people have been clearly making **** up. Bumpers, shipping dates, etc. Either you are lying or the CSR is. With the passion which you are defending the CSR's and not thinking critically about what was said it has made me wonder.
[Nexus 4 General] ksocoolwitit:
just checked my bank account this morning, and I don't see the "pending" charge for the phone anymore and its nowhere to be found in the transaction. Anybody seeing the same thing?
[Nexus 4 General] AngryRabidBadger:
Good idea.

I don't buy the whole "overwhelming demand" thing either. Nobody knows about this phone other than Android enthusiasts.
[Nexus 4 General] AIovanna:
Still pending over here and my order date is still the 13th...
[Nexus 4 General] arodhr13:
I'm I'm the same boat hope we get some good news tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Who's date never change? Mine didn't...

Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 4G
[Nexus 4 General] silentsnow31802:
Same thing happened to me this morning.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
yes, same here, it was there yesterday, but not anymore. welcome to LIMBO 10000:p
[Nexus 4 General] AngryRabidBadger:
So has anyone in the UK had their order updated over the weekend at all? I got the impression this is happening in the US only
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
I stated I used to work in a similar situation, and that it was plausible, and all I got was ppl like you calling bs. Well let me tell you again idgaf.

Have a big old good one!
[Nexus 4 General] xSunny:
Charged drooped of but my avaliable credit is still the same as it was so maybe it dropped or maybe it was taken since today's Sunday not posted hoping here lol
[Nexus 4 General] themonkster:
I went into the 02 shop in the uk yesterday and had a stroke of a working display model.

Thought about running out of the shop shouting my precious but didn't want to spend Christmas in jail.

Awesome phone can't wait to eventually get one.:cool:

sent from my Atrix using my thumb.
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
Limbo level 1 still. No change.
[Nexus 4 General] chickut123:
No changes in wallet or play store. Limbo level 2. But the charge disappeared from my bank as well. :/ Any hope I had is running slim..
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
This is fine except I would strongly argue that retail sales and product distribution channels are not currently core competencies for Google. I think outsourcing distribution and fulfillment to ups logistics is a great idea as long as they can get the following down:

1. E-commerce that makes sense so the person purchasing has a clear idea of and is confident they either bought a product that is in stock or are waiting for more stock. This is knowing how many are on hand and managing that pool in the data. Is not trivial in a high availability, high volatility (putting cancels and timeouts back in available stock). Cache invalidation is HARD in this HA context where you have multiple clusters in multiple data centers, but can be accomplished. This is where Amazon, Newegg, and Apple HAVE core competency. Notice how Apple sucks at some things Google is great at.

2. COMMUNICATE! Tell people what is going on with their stuff and be truthful and transparent about it. It will get you goodwill. This is harder than it seems. I struggle with this myself at work trying to do too much at once and leave people wondering what's going on with that thing they asked me about. Trying to fix it.

3. Make sure your customer service isn't giving people 10 different answers. In this day and age that will get outed fast.

In the end, they don't need to take over the world of retail, they just need to make sure the customer knows what's going on and not over promise at the time of sale. If it takes three weeks, say that up front and all will be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Think we should invite him to join the nexus 4 drinking club:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] 482123:
I have the same thing. My available credit is the same, but the pending charges are gone. I feel like this has to be a good thing.
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
Since the German thread is dead, I'm asking you guys if you think that Google serves us Germans the last. I have no changes at all, got BO mail on Thursday, my order date is still 11/13. Pending charge still active. What do you think?

I still hope sth will happen tomorrow but I'm always unlucky..

Cheers to the drinking club (its 6:20 pm here ;) )

Eric
[Nexus 4 General] the_cosworth:
I think anyone outside of the US is in the same boat. I havent heard of anyone in Canada or the UK having any movement if they didnt receive shipping like we would have expected.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
me. Limbo II before.

I talked to 2 friends who use Android but are haedly enthusiasts. Both know of Nexus 4 but did not make a purchase.

Mine didn't change, bank pending canceled after data of inactivity. I was wondering if the updated order date has anything to do with the dropped bank charge.
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
Same in the UK mate, they are clearly prioritising the USA. I got my order in within 8 minutes of it going live, still pending, no changes, delivery date was 15th on Play store but I am backordered........no change.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Charge dropping from your bank is probably a good thing. They will reapply with free shipping.

At least that's what I think.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
okay so we still have hope for tomorrow ;)
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Guys! This is what "they" want! If we're fighting amongst ourselves, how can we combine forces against the might of GOOGLE?
[Nexus 4 General] the_cosworth:
Posted this in the CAD thread:
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Sorry for you Europe guys but there are probably more people in the u.s. that are in Limbo. Also we got the Thanksgiving holidays coming up.

Regardless of where you are, this should not have happened anyway. Even though I am still in Limbo II, I would be happy to see anyone's order got fulfilled.
[Nexus 4 General] luke_c94:
Nothing here, ordered at 8:27 and still in Limbo 3, order confirmation and backorder e-mail, Wallet says pending and ordered on the 13th and play says shipping estimate the 15th. The pending charge has disappeared from my bank account as well.
[Nexus 4 General] the_cosworth:
Most likely the EU operations are all being run differently. I doubt they are prioritizing one country over another. Google has offices in every major city all over the world. IF you can lump people together I think that they would be something like this:

- NA (USA, CAD, maybe Mexico) but they may have their own.

- UK

- EU (mainland EU)

Even us in Canuckle land were supposed to have our own distribution network. My order was processed through Toronto but I assume something happened as a lot are coming out of the US now
[Nexus 4 General] duquesa:
Nothing changed here in Spain either but nothing happens on weekends here anyway :rolleyes:

I´m in the same status as you, ordered early and got the BO mail still pending.

It looks like they are trying to sort this mess out in the US first, hopefully we will see some changes tomorrow here in Europe
[Nexus 4 General] drspine:
My order went through at 5:44 EST. Thank you very much for this info.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Exactly, so why did UK sell out?

I could understand a sell out in America, but here in the UK - I doubt they sold more than 100 in the 25mins it took to sell out. (Seen less than 10 in the UK recieve them on on XDA from UK)

The nexus brand isn't even known over here, only people who follow U.S android blogs and XDA even know about it.

Even o2 who have 1 month exclusivity have given no advertising for the fact they have it.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkShadowAy:
Has anyone from UK spoke to Google and got anything tangible?
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
I have spoke to them a few times but not since Thursday. Might be worth calling them later but I doubt they have any additional Information. I got the same story as everyone else, they apologise etc and will try their best, but my BO status could mean I get one any time in the next 3 weeks. They are not sure of the order they will do sort through things, so don't hold your breath.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
To all my friends in the nexux 4 drinking club it's noon in Oklahoma just got out of church going to stock up on bud lime for another round of fun tonight I'll be ready cheers:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
After my interview I'll throw some back
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
I have been betrayed by two x-wifes one girl friend and now Google but never by my dog or my bud lime:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] AIovanna:
Bud lime...they still make that nasty stuff...I'll be off after 4 to down some High Life....after all being in limboland is such...
[Nexus 4 General] jnewman1991:
Just bought a 6 pack of Shiner Black. Tonight will be fun.
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
still in limbo level 2 :( and that victor dude is sending me that ****in survey lol
[Nexus 4 General] FoxyGrandpa:
Oklahomie!
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
Since Google is american I can understand that they try to clear the us first. But as in the UK and Europe the nexus devices are hardly known it should be much easier to fulfill orders.

I'm a nexus fan as well and want my phone!! Argh
[Nexus 4 General] Sturos:
I wouldn't mind one of those surveys :)

Unfortunately even the Google bot ignores my emails :(
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
You're welcome, hope it helps ease your pain. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
You guys had the gsm galaxy nexus well before the us. I had to get it from Negri for 750. Did it not sell well there for the months you guys had it before us?
[Nexus 4 General] ajftl:
mine is arriving monday... i placed my order at 11:45 EST ...
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
than this thread is not for you mate, its for only limbos :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
I think another club meeting is called for. I have lots of rum. I might need to get started on that.

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club

"It's not drinking alone if it's with people on an internet forum"

Pending Device:

LG Nexus 4 16GB Limbo Level 3
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Enid :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I keep reading your posts every time I come here about how your sure they only had 100 phones and no one in all of UK knows about the nexus except ppl who follow bla bla...

Seriously...? Don't you think that's a kinda ridiculous thing to say...? As if you monitor the entire United Kingdom and know exactly how many people follow what and know about what...

If only 100 people in all of UK knew about this damn phone then surely the Site would have flown smooth and not crashed there because it can definitely handle atleast 100 ppl at the same time... I really doubt people will inform your before buying a phone and get your blessings to give it the go ahead...

Your supposed to be a father so stop acting so childish... Assumptions are the mother of all F ups... So stop making dumb theories as if you know about the entire inventory...

Google messed up because they weren't expecting the overwhelming response... It doesn't even matter how many phones they kept... It sold like crazy because of the price... And they didn't see it coming because the previous nexus flopped... Can't we just leave it at that and hope everyone gets their phone ASAP...

Thanks to the people giving valuable information about what the status is with the phones but can we not flood this place with twilight Zone theories...

Sent from my Galaxy JBSII
[Nexus 4 General] slowpc:
Yep , I got victors email last night ... survey sent ;)
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
I really hope I get a shipping notification tomorrow or late tonight. Level 1 limboer
[Nexus 4 General] rock7632:
Why does Victor from the Google play support team keep spamming me with emails on rating the google play support experience? I got 5 emails overnight
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
The pending charge from Google disappearing from people's credit card accounts has absolutely nothing to do with Google doing anything, rather it has to do with Google having done nothing. All it means is that the preliminary authorization for the charge has expired without Google having sent over the actual charge. The timing of that expiration has to do with your bank's policy about how long to keep pending charges on their books before dropping them, that's all. In particular, it doesn't mean that Google has decided to drop shipping charges or any such thing; it just means that Google is doing what its policy requires -- not actually charging your card until they ship the phone. I.e., the disappearance of the pending charge from your account just means that your phone hasn't shipped yet, nothing more.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
He must be a spy or a alien maybe we should invite him to drink with us
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Anyone get shipping info
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
I doubt it. I'm in the US, and I ordered 10 minutes after the sale went live. My order is pending with a November 15 shipping date, and no other information. I haven't received a back order email.
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
no dude stuck in limbo level 2 and cc charge dropped too :rolleyes::eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
Today's update is that my temporary authorization on my credit card has disappeared.

I really need to give it to Chase though. I got a call from them by an actual human being within 5 minutes of placing my order on the Google Play store because they flagged it as fraud. Little did I know that this would be a foreshadowing of things to come. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
At this point, it looks like we are all a part of the BO club....
[Nexus 4 General] Todd:
LOL Victor is the name of their trash can so all the CSR people are using the name. That way no one gets called up stairs for a review.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Mine dropped 2 days ago. I told myself if nothing by Monday I was gonna cancel. But now I'm to deep in.

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I'm sure the 1st batch is gone. I'm hoping they got enough to take care of the early buyers at least
[Nexus 4 General] manchoi44:
Same here.
[Nexus 4 General] shojus:
And you will LOVE the Note 2 guaranteed! :D
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
so basically i am now in level 3 :p thats a good news at least something changed :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
I think there is a 48hr max they can hold your card with out any activitie on it I'm sure it will get charged again don't spend the money
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
This phone stuff has me bummed. After my interview I'm throwing back some Jager and play Halo 4 take my mind off this sh1t.
[Nexus 4 General] mobilehavoc:
A friend ordered and in the chaos they shipped him 2 x 16gbs. They are arriving tomorrow so I told him there might be people on here willing to buy one off him. I think he wants like $500 + shipping since its still cheaper than TMobile with tax.

If anyone is interested please PM me. I'll probably post something in marketplace tomorrow but wanted to let folks know.
[Nexus 4 General] leets4uc3:
****ing victor...

I just hope I get my n4 around the time good stable Roms and Franco kernel comes out.

waiting for my n4 and flipping tables

(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻
[Nexus 4 General] jining:
Limbo Stage 2.... :(
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Consumerist alerted
[Nexus 4 General] leets4uc3:
Tell him the go **** him self

waiting for my n4 and flipping tables

(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
man this phone better be back in stock soon cause I'm going insane waiting on this damn thing!!!
[Nexus 4 General] jt.61:
UPDATE:

After waiting 30 minutes to talk to someone, they said my order has been processed and they charged my card yesterday night at 7:55 PM EST. He said that is why my order changed to November 17. He said all the backorders are being stocked and they are just waiting for UPS to start taking all the orders. I should be getting a shipping info tomorrow and getting the phone tuesday or wednsday. I hope he is right!!! Then, he said Google will be releasing a statement to the public next week because of the press asking what has happened.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
**** that. That's hardly even a savings.

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and what happens if Google isn't releasing a statement? How does this rep know this? Did the petition do something?
[Nexus 4 General] samthe2can:
Level 4 Limbo here.

But FedEx don't know where I am.

As they are an American company, it would seem they can't comprehend a state with a three letter abbreviation instead of two!

I live in Tasmania, my phone is in New South Wales, I got an email from FedEx saying delivery had been attempted and failed..
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Thanks for the update hopefully there's truth in that
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
I doubt Google would release anything. Did they release a statement after the Nexus 7 fiasco?

As for the back orders being shipped sometime next week, I hope so. Even if it's false hope I still hope it's true.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
No I don't believe they said anything. But they need to the same thing happens with I/O tickets. Now people can't get there devices
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Back orders and late orders can take a seat behind early order suckers like me, kiddo!

Sent from limbo.
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
This is a good news for those who are backordered and for those (just like me) that wait a new batch on the playstore. If all the BO are stocked, maybe we will soon have the chance to buy this damned ****ing beautiful phone :D
[Nexus 4 General] tengen:
Does that mean that those of us whose orders did not get an updated date are SOL? :(
[Nexus 4 General] Chief_rawka:
That can't be true as I also had my date change to the 17th, but my payment droped off and was never recharged.
[Nexus 4 General] qreffie:
My order updated to the 16th but I didn't receive any charges on my card or shipping information.
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
I just got off the phone with a CSR. This is the first time I've called, and they told me I'm on back order. I don't know if it is true, but it is definitely disheartening.

Ordered @ 11:42EST.

Status is pending in Wallet.

My order date is November 13, and the shipping date is November 15.

I did not receive a back order email.

I was told that shipping will be refunded.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
And you believe them ?
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Holy shadberry.. Every couple hours there is a new revelation on top of the other 20 stories. Hopefully this is the one. If not, I welcome the next one, different from the last one.
[Nexus 4 General] rpaloalto:
Crap woke up today hoping something may have changed still in limbo number 2 plus the bank reversed the charges:(
[Nexus 4 General] decepticon:
I just got off the phone with the Play Store support. He confirmed Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and that Obama will be issuing a press release tonight admitting the truth about Roswell.
[Nexus 4 General] jnewman1991:
Weird, I was told that Oswald wasn't in the area and it was in fact an unknown man at the grassy knoll.
[Nexus 4 General] egarsenal16:
exact same situation here. Then again the Amazon pre-order for a screen protector dropped off as well, it hopefully isn't a significant sign of whats going on
[Nexus 4 General] decepticon:
But mine was verified with his supervisor and he even put me on hold and asked a specialists.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I've had charges dropped off before and eventually when the order ships the charge will return. It can only pend for so long.
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
Got my Ingress invite now all I need is my Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] AIovanna:
This
[Nexus 4 General] kcm117:
Same
[Nexus 4 General] Todd:
just to add they have been a few people get their phones, and still have not been charge yet even after the pending charge drops off.
[Nexus 4 General] decepticon:
I'm sure my charge that cleared went to pay for one of their phones. Whoever it is, you're welcome
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
Ya. Me too i got it this morning... doing my training at work while we are slow. You resistance or enlightened

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club...

"It's not drinking alone if you are with people on an internet forum"
[Nexus 4 General] norazi:
he can get more than that easily.... i ordered 2 for me and my gf and they are coming in tomorrow... however i already have local guys offering over $600 for them so ill take the money ad wait a bit longer

patience = free nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] kcls:
I got mine too! All my current devices are incompatible though, so I'm waiting for my Nexus!

Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
Resistance! We will dominate the Tampa Bay area. :)

You?
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
Viva la resistance

Not much here in AZ but I'm gonna start taking pictures and submitting portals

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club...

"It's not drinking alone if you are with people on an internet forum"
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Boy that settles that issue:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] t4t3r:
Certainly hopeful for everyone to get their orders in a timely fashion, but there are still a lot of early order folks who haven't had anything changed on their orders. If our early orders are still being passed over into tomorrow/Tuesday I'm going to be absolutely incensed...
[Nexus 4 General] vineet381:
I guess for all those who have seen their charge dropped, probably Google will charge once the order gets shipped but this time without the shipping cost, that way they dont have to get through the hassle of refunds etc?
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
It seems quite common for final charges to come off after the device is received. I'd say the status of your payment probably means nothing much about the actual order. Banks automatically remove very the hold after a few days and depending on banks it can take a few days for final transactions to show. In general I see a lot of transactions taking days to come out my account whereas some are immediate so these delays are normal.

Don't worry about charges dropping off or delays to final payment this is likely to be normal and will vary a bit depending on the policy of your bank.
[Nexus 4 General] egarsenal16:
Sure hope so
[Nexus 4 General] slowpc:
Got mine as well ... Good thing I still have my note. :)