yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't all the android fans spent the last 2 years making fun of iphone 4 and 4s for:

no lte

no removable battery

no sd slot

glass back housing

And here 2 years later, lg/google intros the same product and it's good? Funny.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pak-stars:
im guessing it will have an unlocked bootloader s-off and will be pre rooted..come on its google for crying out loud
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
And a used 4s still sells for more than this nexus does brand new unlocked... Uhm... Match point
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WookieFan:
No, that's a good point. We Android fans have always made fun of the iPhone/iOS latest and greatest being behind the times. Remember how long it took for cut & paste?

It sounds like this Nexus isn't even close to the cutting edge...
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Are you positioning that as a pro or con for the Nexus? The fact that iphone retains value is a positive for iphone users. The fact that this nexus is available cheap brand new is also a positive for soon-to-be nexus 4 owners. I think that's a positive for both devices.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WarRaven:
Call me crazy but I'm sticking withy Onex till spring I suspect. Not because of a contract but because it hasn't suddenly stopped working an kids aren't throwing stones at me so yeah, its good.

I say down with these alternate phone threads. :rolleyes:

WR

Sent from my One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] G-Bus:
The only thing that pisses me off about our phone in comparaison to the Nexus 4 is Jelly Bean 4.2. I mean **** we haven't even got 4.1 yet and I'm drooling over 4.2 already... Our phone might never see 4.2 actually.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
Who cares? What does it add exactly? 4.1 is smoother scrolling homescreens. Yippee. What does 4.2 add? Anything we can't flash like Google now? These updates are a disgrace. I can't understand why everyone is so caught up in them.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] G-Bus:
I'd love to see the new notifications and use them. I flashed a AOSP Rom and absolutely loved the new notification menu. I'd like to see if HTC will integrate that into Sense 4+ with 4.1. I mean sure, 4.2 isn't that much of a change to still some things are cool like the new keyboard and the lock screen widget pages. On top of that, I can only imagine how nice the roms will be on 4.1 and what the devs will do with the new notifications and features of Jelly Bean.

I guess wanting to have the latest thing out there also plays a part in this. I mean, heck, we're on XDA, we flash custom roms and kernels so we could easily assume that we like technology and anything that has to do with it, so yeah it might not be drastic changes (hence the name remained Jelly Bean) but I still would love to have them all on my HOX.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] moehagene:
for those that are wanting to know why there is no lte with the nexus 4. Article makes since

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte/in/3335719
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Silellak:
Sure, it explains the reason...but as the end of the article says:

Keep in mind that, in some areas, the AT&T HSPA/HSPA+ network is so congested that if you want anything resembling even decent performance, you need to be on LTE.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] beaups:
And let's not forget the latency differemce between lte and hspa is huge. Regardless of Mbps lte performs MUCH faster.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] vioalas:
I'm in an area that will probably not get LTE for at least 2 years or around that. So... Not that important to me.

I wish I had LTE though, my phone screams whenever I'm in the Orlando area, but it's rare that I'm there.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ptesmoke:
See what I did there ;)

its both.. I mean I have my opinions on why the iphone retains value...between sheeple. but that's another bag of worms.

The nexus is what Google does best... make a sexy device... boost a manufacturers yearly sales... see return profit from carriers and may ustomers buying apps, clicking ads . Yes they are probably selling it at cost and not making much on the device itself... but look at it from a new customers pov..

hmmm iphone 5...$349 and a 3 year lock down (Canada.. ppfft)

or... A nexus 4, probably $99 on a 3 year if that.. what would you choose?

this is how Google has continuously been gaining ground... pure and simple business model... under sell your competition with a comparable yet possibly even better product. and Imo the nexus 4 blows away the i5. now LTE is nothing to me... I live in ****ville nowhere, my hox... has never seen LTE. I didn't buy it for LTE... it simply was the only device my carrier had other than the s3 (yuk) so LTE is a non issue for me. therefore the nexus 4 is extremely well suited for my likes ;)

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oh.... but I don't know if I trust LG... LOL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ChongoDroid:
I'm getting one, I won't be getting rid of this device however.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] PatriotXT92:
I'm curious to see if they will do the same thing as they did with the nexus 7 and introduce a 32gb version after some months after release. Regardless I would love to get one as I've never actually had a nexus device. The lack of LTE doesn't mean much to me as I usually turn it off any way to save on battery. It's nice to have but I still don't think it's necessary right now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] shawn1224:
Ditto, for that price I would get it just to be the backup to my hox. Damn that's a steal.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] WookieFan:
This is probably the most important facet of the Nexus - increasing sales for important Android handset manufacturers. This post was a Eureka moment for me.

No one really knew who HTC was before the N1. The same could be said for Samsung, in terms of smartphones.

Nexii are a kind of gateway drug for manufacturers.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] bloodrain954:
It is that fast and nobody cares about "by you"
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Athrun88:
It's extremely fast for those who have access to it. Just because you don't have access to LTE doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Like said above, nobody really cares about "near you"; it only affects those who already have it and are looking at this device.

Back on topic, the fact that it's by LG kind of turns me off. Really waiting for HTC to go back to making a Nexus device. In terms of build quality, I've fallen in love with HTC since their early days and, despite what they do with the software, I wouldn't even think of going to another manufacturer.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] slimslim:
I dropped my hox couple times, so I guess polycarbonate vs glass is a win for me. I've been using LTE for about a year now (November 6th tp be exact is a year) and got spoiled by the speeds, couldn't go back to hspa. I might get one as a backup, but I'll have to wait to see some reviews and ratings first, cause it's made by LG.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] nugzo:
Um wth does this have to do with a One X? this is ATT One X General Forum. Not the LG forum. :confused:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
Just like the HTC Butterfly topic :rolleyes:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] draztikrhymez:
Honestly I'm tempted, I don't live in a LTE area yet and have wifi at home and work anyways.

Sent from my One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] robstunner:
It will be tempting until cm10 gets the 4.2 merge on glorious one x.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pside15:
You apparently have never used LTE on AT&T, because it is that fast. I don't think it's really necessary but it's nice to have especially if you are in a LTE area.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SimPup:
I know in Jackson ms I get around 60 megs down on lte
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Hmm... Chicagoland I was getting 16mbps on LTE... Yet my friend on T-Mobile can get 50mbps on hspa+. Who cares?

They're both fine.

Sent from my HTC One XL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tanner4137:
They're definitely getting ready! ;)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] tanner4137:
I finally found a link that worked. For some reason the Google Store link wasn't working properly. Here's a couple of pictures for you guys who haven't seen the page for the Nexus 4. To be honest, I wasn't so sure about this phone since I only got my One X a couple of months ago, but I've made up my mind that I'm getting this when it comes out :P
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] umarsl:
The only good thing I really am looking forward to on 4.2 is the Camera

The standard 4.1 camera (in CM10) is horrible compared to that of Sense 4, 4.5 or 4+

The Photosphere feature looks really good too, even though I wont use it like the panorama but it would be a nice feature to have.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] :
The 2 things that keep me from getting this.

1) no lte (im spoiled I know)

2) I just got my hox in august. So it's not necessary. I may get the next nexus device. This hox should be obsolete then.

Sent from my HTC One XL
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] CheesyNutz:
come on i really can not see that much of a difference between the sense and CM10 aokp cameras
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] cuyo11:
NOOO, SENSE 4 IM GONNA MISS YOU :crying:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ngrneer:
Why People make a Fuss over updates

I think that the public and the tech blogs overemphasize updates to the Android OS because they are used to Apple's strategy of rolling out major updates only once a year. They then try and apply this same attitude to Android and voila a big deal is made.

I typically try to separate the Apple/Android battle out when I form my opinions because getting caught up in to how Apple functions when it comes to Google only clouds judgement.

I do say that the lack of microSD card is sad but we are all here having a phone that lacks one itself. The fact that they are making this developer phone for $299 unlocked is marvelous for developers. I think people sometimes forget that this phone is mainly made for testing applications and not being the coolest phone on the market.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] blaine.hale:
Fair well HOX...you've been a good phone for 6 months.

I never want a non-nexus phone again....ever. Too much pain to go through all the bootloader unlocks and waiting for our (incredible) devs to build things. Sorry, not the devs, I mean the source to be released by ****ty companies. The devs absolutely rule here.

Screw LTE (even in atlanta) I can afford to lose a bit of speed for a phone I don't need to constantly alter.

Before you say it...no, iphone isn't the phone for me :D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] kennethpenn:
Hey let's keep Nexus 4 discussion outside of irrelevant device-specific forums. Thanks!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] hawkye:
My wife's phone is using AOKP rom and we setup Google Voice. For some reason the playback will not play via the speaker. Music and phone calls will play via speaker just fine. Anyone else have this issue?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] biggstkk:
Try toggling the volume up or down while sound should be playing. I remember this being a fix for alarms, Google Now, and possibly Voice as well.
[HTC Sensation] TolsoonxD:
Hello, I'm a bit of a noob at this you could say but here I go.

I have unlocked my bootloader on my HTC Sensation XE using htcdev and then I have rooted my phone, I have S-OFF and my recovery is CWM.

My phone is currently on 4.0.3 ICS with sense 3.6.

I went to install bruce2728 latest version of CM10 found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1782009 and also GAPPS. After I had installed both and my phone booted up I was stuck in a constant bootloop showing the CM10 bootup screen. I then restored my phone using CWM. I tried several different roms including CM9 but was getting bootloop on everyone. So then I searched here and various other places on how to fix it, tried several methods and finally came to one instructing me to change my CID to 11111111 which can be found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 at step 4. Which then when I did the command fastboot oem writecid 11111111 i got this message

(bootloader) vreg_set: request is duplicated id 14

(bootloader) pyramid_init_sd, SD card power on ok

(bootloader) sdcc_init_memory_device done

(bootloader) [FAT_ERROR] fat_open_file: can not find SMART_IO.CRD

(bootloader) [JAVACARD_ERR] SMART_IO.CRD cann't find

OKAY [ 1.079s]

finished. total time: 1.080s

I then searched this and how to get around it, and came up with one solution which was to download the PG58IMG.zip 3.33 firmware and load it into root of sd and then go on bootloader and it should install it but it immediately found it and disappeared. So alas I have no idea on how to get onto any custom ROM.

If you need any more details just ask.

Thanks

Mark
[HTC Sensation] ganeshp:
I suspect you don't have SOFF

Post your complete bootloader details here
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10/29/nexus-4-official-available-november-13th-starting-at-299/

As you see the OS is android 4.2, jellybean.

Well that's shows the nexus 4 and android 4.2, looks like we should it soon especially with AOSP.

Here is a website that has what android 4.2 is....

http://www.talkandroid.com/138148-g...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] mmark27:
Have you downloaded the new Google Now update? Whoa man, that's some serious improvement.

New things like:

Open apps on your phone

Make date any time in the future on calendar

Check schedule on any date in the future

pulls all your order information from gmail, this is super handy

and much more!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] nitekillerz:
i cant find google now? on the market or in my phone. im on freegs3 witch is a mostly stock tw rom. so where is it?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
im on CM10 and everytime i try to update gapps it says that they were signed wrong.... including google now
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] ycats:
it's Google Search, was updated earlier today
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jeffgus:
I ran a search for it in the Play Market. It showed up with an option to update, but when I do it gives me a "Package file was not signed correctly. Uninstall the previous copy of the app and try again." Since the version that is currently installed came with the JellyBean update, I can't uninstall it.

What's the deal?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
same with mine but i'm on CM10
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] cnstarz:
use titanium backup to uninstall the current version.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jeffgus:
I could do that, but I question why I would have to do such a thing. Is there a problem with Google's package?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Emerl:
Maybe it's a modified Google Search for that Rom? I'm running stock fj7 and it updated fine.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jeffgus:
I considered that, but then, as mentioned above, the update didn't work on CM10 either.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
Yeah, I'm on CM10 and the update didn't work, go the same error.

Anyone have a fix?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] xTmDarren:
Google Search - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox&feature=search_result
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jeffgus:
Trying to install the new Google Search. Here is the error from logcat:

D/Finsky (10055): [1] DownloadImpl.setState: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox from DOWNLOADING to SUCCESS.

D/Finsky (10055): [1] DownloadQueueImpl.onComplete: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox: onComplete

D/Finsky (10055): [1] DownloadQueueImpl.remove: Download com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox removed from DownloadQueue

W/PackageManager( 724): verifying app can be installed or not

W/PackageManager( 724): New package has a different signature: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

D/Finsky (10055): [3155] 1.packageInstalled: Package install status for "com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox" is -104

D/Finsky (10055): [1] InstallerTask.cancelCleanup: Cancel running installation of com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

D/Finsky (10055): [1] AppActionAnalyzer.<init>: com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox is installed but certificate mistmatch
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] sprkat85:
Updated google search on freegs3 with no problems.

Sent from my phone
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jamcar:
I can get to it and download it but when it installs it fails because the one I have isn't signed correctly.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] iceman19631:
Says incompatible update for me.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] jeffgus:
I was able to get Google Search updated! How?? Not exactly sure!

I believe the problem may have started when I installed the GoogleNow zip file for ICS. The ROM update should have over written the file. It appeared that it had, but something else must have been lingering. I grabbed the updated apk file out of the download cache and over wrote the existing Velvet.apk. The system was satisfied that it was now up to do, but it crashed when I tried to do voice search. I rebooted, same thing. I then put back the original Velvet.apk while I was in the Google Play store. The app detected that it was changed, but it wouldn't let me update it. I rebooted again. This time the Play Store allowed me to update the app!

Not sure if I got all my steps in, but that is what eventually fixed it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Iphony89:
I removed the Google search app with titanium backup and tried to down again from the market and it failed to install... I rebooted to recovery, cleared cache and fixed permissions and then it installed just fine.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] freecharlesmanson:
I updated it just fine

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I'm on cm10 1029
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Friends i had been searching a lot but couldn't find a way to make Swiftkey3 a system app,

i just pushed it to system/app and changed permissions to rw-r--r- but i was surprised to know that it didn't worked,, Then i tried Titanium backup for moving it to system but still no hope, Then i tried Link2sd and the app actually got installed as a system app but i started getting rapid Force closes(FC's) on the app, then i got to know that these apps requires lib files, thus i took help from my friend Fedy Ksuma & finally we both did it, So just sharing what i did,

Install apk which u want to be a system apk..

After instaling go to root explorer (root) /data/data ( search app which u have installed , on this folder and u can see lib folder .. copy all lib files from app folder /lib to system/lib then change permision's to rw-r--r-

After copy & pasting file from data/data MOVE app from data/app to system/app & change permision's to rw-r--r-

Reboot ur device....

After reboot go to titanium backup search app >wipe data or u can go to Backup/Restore> search app > wipe data..

Done Congo :good:..

Ur app on system now will not have any FC issue if u followed my steps....

:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
Or convert them with link2sd.

GREEETZ WITH MANY TAP A TALKED BEATZ!!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Nope, it will not work as link2sd never moves the lib folder to system,,,,,;)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] jaison thomas:
simplest method is use an app called system app installer. its trouble free.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Bro it's another matter system app installer too can't move the lib files, we only can do this manually;)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
what is so important on libs?????i have never trouble without them
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] dfeldt91:
Randomly stumbled upon this and have to say thanks...

I've been wondering why some apps will fc when I put them in system. I was starting to get irked. I'll give this a go after I get some sleep.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Akash vibhute:
I got my SwiftKey installed as a system app without troubles by

1. Installing normally.

2. Cut paste it from data/apps to system/apps and change permissions to rw-r-r...

I didn't even thought of lib files.... :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Were u using swiftkeyv2 bcoz v3 is impossible to move to system , even though if it moved we can't stay without FC's on the app,,,

My friend's too tried moving it to system/app but we all never got success in it,,,
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Gud to hear that i helped u out!!:good:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Akash vibhute:
No I am using SwiftKey 3.

This is screen shot.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Something really odd going on with u or something really awesome lolz,,,,,,,,, just check http://www.facebook.com/groups/explodeaamir/permalink/294298010675464/ for more info,,,;)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] m.h.mahadi:
Thanks buddy!!!:thumbup:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] nikufellow:
First of all I am an utter noob in Android and Modding stuff so i just need some help in understanding a few stuff:

Why should we convert user apps to system apps? After conversion how do we know if they are really converted? What are libs? Is linking in link2sd similar to what explained here?

Any help is highly appreciated!

Thanks
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Akash vibhute:
You do it to save the space in your phone memory and prevent accidental deletions. Root is required for that.

You have to move them from data/app to system/app and change permissions to rw-r-r.

You need to reboot after that to get it saved. You cant uninstall it after that through task manager.

Thats it..
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] nikufellow:
Thanks!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] hdulani:
or you could use Link2SD
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] ronnieryan:
can you provide a zip with a script to put lib files to system lib and system/app? would be nice if you can provide a .zip then we can just place an apk and lib files in it
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] GeekShivam:
Link2sd will work but u will surely get FC's.........:silly:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] kitu34:
[*]Install apk which u want to be a system apk..

[*]After instaling go to root explorer (root) /data/data ( search app which u have installed , on this folder and u can see lib folder .. copy all lib files from app folder /lib to system/lib then change permision's to rw-r--r-

[*]After copy & pasting file from data/data MOVE app from data/app to system/app & change permision's to rw-r--r-

[*]Reboot ur device....

[*]After reboot go to titanium backup search app >wipe data or u can go to Backup/Restore> search app > wipe data..

[*]Done Congo :good:..

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Thanks for sharing.But why you said install the app you want to convert as system app?I mean the app is already installed and you just want to move it to system.I am a newbie so it would be more clear if you elaborate a little more.

And in the end why we need to wipe the data?

Last thing,now it shows as a system app so even the reset will not delete,right?So putting an anti theft app in system is a good idea,have you done that,or tried a reset and checked it?

This might be a little pain but should do this

(kyon ji main koi galt gall kithi? Aa jao fer napp daiye)Dhanvaad bada ditha,aande jaande dende ravaange hahaha
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] Paget96:
nice ,i try to find this aaa,loong time ago :D

thanks a lot
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] gtalum:
Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.

No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?