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[Galaxy S III General] luizffgarcia:
Consequences are mainly performance issues, and due to a blind development environment developers often break stuff trying to make other stuff work blindly causing also instability.

There will be replies for this post for sure saying CM10 and AOSP roms run smoothly but belive me, there are users who are just not as perfectionist as others, for those CM10 may run smoothly, but for me and many many others it's far away from that.

Don't get me wrong i love CM10 and it's one of the main reasons i am going for a N4, but the developers can't make miracles without Exynos sources, it's a shame...
[Galaxy S III General] jjshinobi:
No but it's good for someone that wants an unlocked rooted phone instantly and doesn't want to waste a little bit of time,
[Galaxy S III General] BarryH_GEG:
There are two conversations going on at the same time...

1) A Nexus phone vs. a phone with an overlay

2) The SGS3 (or any high-end phone) vs. a device produced by LG

If the N4 was made by Samsung using Exynos 4/5 the only debate would be about number one. But because of LG's track record a lot of people are skeptical of the N4 hence the discussion about number two. This thread would look a lot different if the N4 were made by Samsung, HTC, or Motorola.
[Galaxy S III General] Idan73:
Now that we started with if's...

Or if it had kevlar back from Motorola, or if it had expandable memory, or if it got rid of persistent buttons or if it wanted to keep the buttons at least got rid of the enormous bezel on the bottom which I think should be only point of having onscreen buttons in the first place, or if that kevlar back was removable... Yes then this thread would definitely look a lot different.

:D :eek::rolleyes::):D

I guess that might have even made nexus line too popular and stepped on too many toes, so never gonna happen.

Testing JKay alpha on GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] blendobass:
who cares about the sd card, with USB on the go i can use a thumb drive or a small drive if I really need that much data right on the phone. This isn't practical in my pocket, but when I travel for a few months at a time I am more than happy to be able to use a 100 + gig thumb drive with my whole DJ music collection on it.

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THe best thing about the nexus is that I can afford a phone, new with full warranty.

I will never buy another used device, I can't justify spending $300 on a used on that might have issue, been there done that, it sucks if you throw money out.

Also in Canada it is very expensive for a factory unlocked phone, I love this phone just because it is the 1st that will not be branded, I despise our rip off phone companies in Canada, they lock everything down, they pain their ugly logo on it an the splash screen..

The best thing about this phone for me is OWNING a pocket computer without any phone company, for $300, with a warranty, and it doesn't look like a joke of a phone and issues will pop up while the warrantey is good, then I get another 1 year warranty on replacement, I LOVE a device that keeps in getting new ones for 3 years, so I am almost glad it is LG.

I will use a external drive for the SD card, and I will replace the battery with my little tool set I ordered from China any time I want.

I am stoked that google has no went over Canadian carriers, and proved they are still a real company, what other manufacture has the guys to sell their phones direct to customers unlocked at the same price as a contract phone ?

I am sorry, I would never spend more on a phone then $300, I was just about to buy the S2 New and unlock it from KOODO, I went in there and their stupid contract made me want to puke and their CS so clueless, I pulled out my BLackberry and surfed to Nexus 4 and told them, I think I will get this for the same price and not have to talk to another one of you retards about feeling like a criminal buying a device again.

Thank you very much Google. I just wanted a pocket computer and not have to unlock the junk and have a stupid logo on my splash screen for life.
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
Where is everyone ?? . everone sold their gs3 for nexus 4 ??
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Nexus sucks, I'm still here waiting for S4
[Galaxy S III General] baste07:
nexus is ok but LG sucks
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
^ Yep, that too... But nexus still sucks on many ways (battery, sdcard)
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
Yaa Bingo....i am thinking the same.
[Galaxy S III General] d4c:
I'm actually still thinking about trading my s3 in for the n4. I mean I'm not to bothered at the moment about 16gb ram and no expansion slot, but maybe in the future. I can get roughly £250 for my s3 so would only need £30 of my own cash. Hmm decisions decisions...
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
16gb ram? I want that too :D
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
Lol :D

Now i understand why everyone selling thieir beast galaxy s3 for crap lg nexus..16 gb ram LOLz :D
[Galaxy S III General] d4c:
Oops :)
[Galaxy S III General] dazza7111:
Never thought i'd get rid of s3 for Nexus 4 but wife (iphone4) wants a s3 now and brand new nexus 4 is cheaper than second hand s3!

So she can have my s3 and I get new Nexus 4! Think its worth it lol?

More so for the 2GB ram?

PS if I dont like it could always swap for s3 on gumtree lol
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
Oh man u have the best reason to upgrade to nexus 4 go for it.

and offcourse if feel bad with nexus 4 then u can anytime swap it with your wife :D:D
[Galaxy S III General] Cloudstrife:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?p=62086431

LG and the fact that it has glass all over... Has to be an epic fail! LG = Less Good :silly:

The reviewer from verge had the crack and he also saw that the google representative had a crack in the glass aswell. Lol.
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
LG is pretty good making lcd tv or other electronics, but I don't trust them making smartphones. I have friends with LG and really sucks. I prefer s3 plastic over lg glass
[Galaxy S III General] Indiwiz:
I'm afraid the N4 is gonna be like the iPhone 4/4s . Everyone you see with one is going to be cracked somewhere, somehow. I wish HTC could've made this phone. I abuse my G2 , and on a bad day it'll only get scuffed.
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
My words are

Galaxy s3 plastic body is better the lg nexus 4 glass sheild
[Galaxy S III General] icebox4u:
I have an S3 and I plan to keep it, but I have seen different reviewers videos of them taking knives and forks to the screen on a N4.

Not a scratch.

Even an egg shell is strong at certain points.. But if you drop it...

It's easy to align the strengths in materials one way, but the same force at a different angle makes all the difference.

Still keeping my plastic S3. Hasn't "creaked" once. I also don't use it as a tire chock. Maybe that's why it doesn't squeak at me lol.
[Galaxy S III General] on2a:
Don't upgrade to the N4 if you have an S3! Yes the N4 is cheap but imagine how cheap it'll be in another 6 - 10 months time.

Also, aside from the 2GB RAM the N4 has nothing on the S3. Yes the screen is non pentile, but when you see the lower contrast and saturation of the LG screen you will miss the S3 screen guaranteed. You shouldn't be forced to take low capacity devices with no micro sd card and non replaceable batteries, which were only made that way to cut costs. I don't care what Google say 16GB is not enough for my mobile phone!

End of the day you currently have a very capable device that will comfortably last you another year (longer if you don't suffer from upgraditis)

Most of our problem is that we are looking for the latest and greatest. If that's you just wait until the 1080p screens with microsd comes out early next year..

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My view is the N4 is the perfect device to bring low end android phone or non smart phone owners to a reasonably high end phone at an amazing price point.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
In six months, we'll have a phone that kicks today's phones out of the water, up on land, and back into the water again in an eight times loop.
[Galaxy S III General] baste07:
there's always Something better that will come out.
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
People comparing galaxy s3 to lg nexus 4.

Now i remembering 4 months back time when people comparing galaxy s3 to htc one x

Htc one x support people said ....one x has htc sense , better display , better software support , beats audio , blah blah blah blah blah :p

but now after 5 months what happened ?? Galaxy s3 wins clearly.

Proud to buy galaxy s3.

Final words to those who are planning to sell galaxy s3 for lg nexus 4.... better to wait 2 more months to see reviews by common peoples.

Not belive in websites reviews.
[Galaxy S III General] panosv7:
Not selling it

I would be tempted to sell it, only if we were talking about a better device....the hw is identical with drawbacks in the camera department and in storage and screen surface....so why downgrade???
[Galaxy S III General] Nexx:
For me the trade-off of a minimal drop in performance, compared to a fully supported device, is a no-brainier.

Samsung clearly don't care what the community wants, and because of that the Enyxos CM developers are moving on to other SoC's. I'll only be buying Nexus devices from now on.
[Galaxy S III General] tietherope:
I'm going to buy the N4, but keep my Galaxy S III still. I'll switch back and forth every few days. If I decide at some point one is miles ahead of the other, I'll sell one.

Anyone else doing this too?
[Galaxy S III General] Madarox:
People always make excuses to get the latest and greatest.I bet when the GS4 is out,a lot of nexus 4 owners will convince themselves that their phone is inferior and the GS4 is much better(1080P display,A15 dual/quad CPU,mali t604 etc).
[Galaxy S III General] Diaze:
the s3 with multi view feature will definetly be better than the n4
[Galaxy S III General] norpan111:
It's said s3 will get this?

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[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
Yes I am sure ...in jb 4.2 update we will get it :) but nexus 4 users not :D
[Galaxy S III General] baste07:
Hehe so much discussion for a phone that's not out
[Galaxy S III General] luizffgarcia:
This is perfect:

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/29406-why-android-fans-need-to-stop-whining-about-updates

"This is why I believe it is time for Android fundamentalists to stop complaining. True, there are plenty of excellent non-Nexus devices on the market, but if you choose to buy one, you are also making a tradeoff, much like Google. The price of a microSD slot, LTE, or swanky design is obvious – slow updates, or no updates. It is a conscious compromise and anyone who makes it should not moan about running an older version of Android."
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
"Android fans should", I read that and then stopped reading. Already in the first three words the writer sounds like an Apple user.
[Galaxy S III General] Simonetti2011:
This thread is going round and round... has become quite repetitive and boring.
[Galaxy S III General] Kangburra:
LOL I did read the article, I should have read your comment first, you are right :D
[Galaxy S III General] luizffgarcia:
I see your point, but i am not an Apple user and i agree with this text...
[Galaxy S III General] wayfactory:
I hope they port it to SGS3 :victory:
[Galaxy S III General] danielsf:
Managed to buy a 16gb nexus 4 the second it was released in the uk. I sold my old galaxy s2 and galaxy tab 10.1 that I wasn't using to buy it. So I think I am going to keep the s3 along side the n4. Seeing how many people didn't get a chance to get one, I feel extremely lucky :) I like my s3, but after having the nexus 7, on screen buttons just work for me. Also, I am fed up of the mali-400 just not cutting it with some of the highest end games, and that 1gb ram not allowing me to go to my home-screen then back to the app without having to reload it. But the main thing is lack of exynos support, stock android looks so beautiful and clean and I can't have it on my s3 due to samsung. Touchwiz isn't bad at all and has some fantastic features but I love minimalistic designs such as stock android.I like the s3 and I am happy I get to have both :) I am planning to do a compassion video between the two when (if :confused:) my nexus 4 comes, for my you tube channel. Does anyone have any questions they could like me to answer in the video please? :)
[Galaxy S III General] uronfire:
Would love to see a drop test. Lol
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
U can not get that much fun in porting.

Stock is Stock

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Pal I will eagerly wait for your comparison video :)
[Galaxy S III General] vbauer86:
dont be stupid next time, buy a nexus ;)

i sold my s2 and bought gnex months ago and today i received my update 4.2 with the start of selling of nexus4.

Well how long ur gonna w8 when sammy port their stuff (as always with a lot of bugs and other crime errors) from my experience about half of year for the usable leak, then another 5 months for stable release.

By then i got 5 newer versions of Android.

Big hardware on ****ty software <<<<<<mediocore hardware with newest software.

I've made a mistake once

greetz
[Galaxy S III General] trein91:
Slightly slower updates with way more functional features > Fast updates (which contain nothing much that cant be ported) for boring stock android,

Also, ****ty software can be fixed, ****ty hardware can't be upgraded.

Anyway JB leaks have been usable months ago. Not 6 months like in S2 as you say. Oh btw, 4.2 gapps has already been ported for the S3, already using some of them here in fact.

Nexus is essentially just a bland foundation for developers to build on/companies to refer to. Hence, BORING and lacks important features, such as toggles which should be inbuilt already (stock touchwiz> stock android that comes with nexus ie. not CM or AOKP).

OT: First time users would prefer touchwiz than stock bland android, since touchwiz is more functional (toggles, smart features and not to mention waay better camera - aosp camera is **** in comparison to samsungs). Unfortunately, most of the android users probably won't root their phones, hence it is certainly easier for them to use the S3 rather than any nexus stock device. Also, having 80 GB+ storage is great ^^
[Galaxy S III General] incrjaysen:
definetly sticking with the s3. the n4 is nice, but its LG! and even if i do not need the SD slot so hardly, i cant see the advantage of the device. somebody said (dont ask for the link, i watched numerous) the battery is not as powerful too...

in the end its the price that matters and what you get for it.

ota and google updates are actually no argument for me. isnt there enough movement in the s3 modding community? i use a totally stable 4.1.2 cm 10 with the s3.
[Galaxy S III General] hoekzemaar:
I was considering getting through Nexus 4 mainly for the better screen. Then I just heard it won't be released at all in Holland coz LG don't want to so that idea went out the window.

It seems like more of a side grade than an upgrade anyway. Maybe better waiting for the s4. Hoping for a 5 inch full hd screen..
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Better screen? Than the S3? You are kidding right? The S3 has the best screen on the market currently, outside of the DROID dna which has 1080p.

Sent from my I9300XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] Idan73:
Lolz... Aaand nexus 4 not supported in aosp for a little while longer... No binaries, no source.

Samsung smiles.

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[Galaxy S III General] b_bhavu:
On pixels density, nexus 4 is of higher ppi. between AMOLED (s3) and IPS (N4), its a subjective. I would wait for couple of weeks when people actually start using it.
[Galaxy S III General] nikhil18:
if I even buy nexus 4 after selling my s3 there wont be any resell value for nexus 4 seeing the lg logo no one will buy it
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
Screen density ppi is only a part of story if comparing two different types of mobile phone displays.

It's like we compare cameras on behalf of megapixels ;)

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Yaa u can say. Here in india LG has worst market.
[Galaxy S III General] ixon2001:
I think alot of people are getting rid of the S3 on specs alone, not because it's Stock Android, and once novelty of having the nexus 4 worn off i reckon a few will regret selling the S3 for it, but won't publicly admit it.

Stock Android on a phone is dull, ok some might like it i personally don't not on a phone, i like having all the extra features that come with the S3, features ya won't get on Stock Android.

Stock Android on the other hand works brilliantly on a Tablet, I love it on my Nexus 7 :laugh::good:
[Galaxy S III General] hoekzemaar:
I currently prefer the lcd technology to amoled. Better brightness and not the greenish hue that the amoled have. I do really like the contrast on the S3. I just prefer the lcd.
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
It's all about the SAmoled man... The SAmoled.... Nothing else compares!

Sent from my I9300XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] -A-P-M-:
With black spots on dark screen, burn in, and not very good visibility on sun ?

IMO stock Android looks much better than TouchWiz, but I prefer TW over Sense. I dont care about resale value, because new N4 is cheap in Google Play. Also I dont care if LG produces it, because it is Google Nexus. Also the only phone with good resale value is iPhone.

Hardware cant be updated, but N4 doesnt need that because it has great internals. Samsung alredy updated i9300 with i9305 - LTE and 2gb ram. I doubt we will see N4 with updated ram in comming months.
[Galaxy S III General] ballsofsteel:
Samoled on my galaxy s1 was disgusting. S3 is slightly better, but it is not a match for the current top super LCD2 displays, never mind super lcd 3
[Galaxy S III General] KennyLegend:
Black's are not black on any lcd screen except sAmoled.

But... We all have our opinions. One thing is certain though, the Nexus 4 screen won't match the S3.

Sent from my I9300XXDLJ4
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
The only thing a Super Amoled screen is better at is blacks. It's less energy-efficient, displays over-saturated colors, and isn't as bright as its LCD counterparts, so a 1080p LCD 3, should without a doubt be much better suited for most people than a Super Amoled screen(I love Super Amoled screens so I'm not going to switch unless the SGS4, ships with a regular lcd(Granted someone still wants to bring CM to the SGS4)).

So right now, objectively, a 440ppi LCD3 easily beats the best Samoleds.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
My thoughts exactly, nexus is not intended to be cutting edge its a bench mark for manufacturers to exceed. N4 hardware isn't especially exciting, like nexus s before.
[Galaxy S III General] wshyang:
White is white on any screen except SAMOLED too :)

Why the obsession with black levels? The bluish white backgrounds does drives me a little crazy on my S3.
[Galaxy S III General] Idan73:
And yet grey blacks drive crazy those of us that like oled tech.

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[Galaxy S III General] rjjcvb:
Even if the phone is a nexus, the brand is an LG. Don't trust them! I am sure they have paid a LOT to have a nexus phone. Hoping that they can make forget the frustrated LG users until now.

Even so, I came from first dual core phone of the world. (O2x)

Suppose to be a high end phone last year.I am so glad with my sgs 3.
[Galaxy S III General] Rodro:
I Think not... the reason?

1 no Source Code only Nexus 10 is the most Open device on Nexus (Exynos and Open...is Funny...)

2 The space 16GB My S2, S3, and iPhone has 16GB the first one I need use a 16GB extra MicroSD and my S3 a 32GB extra (is my Actual device ) only in Music I have 15GB.

3.- The Brand LG is LG The Design is beautiful but... is LG... only the Optimus One has my Respect.

And Why Change? I like the S3 maybe has a slow update but if you see only this month and the Before Samsung update to 4.1.1 and now 4.1.2 and in the last one Add functions for the Gnote II the multi Window I never believe see this on my S3 but now Samsung upgrading and adding yeah Bloatware maybe but is Awesome see the new Gallery and the S2 with Touchwiz Nature UX running perfect why Change my S3 if is Running perfect I like Touchwiz Nature and Google not sell Nexus Devices in Chile only on internet resellers and the price well... is the same for the S3 or the Nexus 10 Price is little expensive than iPad 4.

you maybe say IS AOSP Cyaogen bla bla bla but I has the new camera for 4.2 the Gallery, the new Gmail and if I like I can Change to a AOKP rom or Cyanogen rom.

When Google Return to Samsung or HTC or use Sony in Cell Phones I see if I change to the nexus family but now I not need buy a 300$USD Phone only for the AOSP support and have the NEXUS Slogan write on the Case.

umm a Sony Nexus X I like... a Xperia T with the nexus brand I like see.
[Galaxy S III General] Indiwiz:
the display wars rise again. I think we can all sew its personal preference since everyone has different eyes and taste. me personally, I love LCDs, because the color is more realistic, and text is always sharper, even at a much lower PPI. but with the little color tuning thing (forgive me for not knowing the name lol) , and the display on the note ii being non-pentile, I wouldn't mind using it. all personal preference tho.

& to those worried about resale value, I wouldn't worry too much, because the difference between this LG phone, and every single other LG phone is that this one has no proprietary software whatsoever. this might as well be a completely different brand, without the logo on the back we wouldn't know the difference anyway. now what's gonna keep the resale value of this low is the $299 price tag in the play store.
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Anyone mentioned I have my multi window now referencing id easier, less needing tk h been me out of sppd to eeply ro messages multi window is the real mobile innovation.
[Galaxy S III General] Diaze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtKF-z2LGg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

:banghead:
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Seriously is that all the Snapdragon S4 can do? My S3 raped it in all benchmarks, wasn't noting them all down, but Antutu gave me a 12272, running 4.1.2 leak no overclock, and it's been switched on and in use for hours.
[Galaxy S III General] exynoss:
See lg nexus is a naked phone. Pure vanilla android os is so boring.

And we s3 users just got a leak of jb 4.1.2 which has multi window feature + note 2 gallery as well.

I just want to say s3 is better because this time Samsung did a fantastic job by making touchwhiz nature UX. Super fast and supper smooth and it also has tons of awesome samsung goodies like pop up play , smart stay etc etc.Its much better then pure android.

I m again saying if someone loves pure android then I bet he/she will bore with pure android only in 1 month.
[Galaxy S III General] ghostofcain:
The nexus stands, or falls, purely on the hardware. I personally don't see the N4 as a huge step up from the S3,so I'm quite happy staying where I am thank you.

I remember when the N1 was released and it really put my HTC Magic to shame, this doesn't feel the same.
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
If you chrcj the benchmark vid on the last page the N4 hardware isn't perfoming too well the S3 decimates it.... or it's because its made by LG and they don't know how to optimise the hardware.
[Galaxy S III General] tolis626:
And how does hardware get optimized?BS.There's thermal throttling going on when benchmarks run.Look at the review by Anandtech.
[Galaxy S III General] uiterlix:
This means this thermal throttling is also happening in everyday use doesn't it?

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