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[Nexus 4 General] Ainvar:
So one thing I have noticed about the order being changed to pending and the money being released from hold on my account. I am on this thread more for the group of people then looking for my phone. I was messing with my GNex running CM10 on VZW and asked myself why? Cause it is a new toy and it will only cost me $30/month on Tmo to play with.

It is really crappy on how Google did the sales and also handling the BO status. A company such as Google who's moto is Do no evil has done some pretty craptastic evil on this release. They have played with peoples money, emotions, and time. Money and Emotions can be replaced and healed with therapy. The time however is non-refundable. I could have done a ton of other things with the time I have spent on this thread, play store page, and what not. The wife understands my passion for tech toys, and well my kids find it funny that daddy is not all into his laptop again ant the N7 lays to the side.

So until the kids go to bed during the weekday and weekend, the wife is ok with me being the computer like a zombie drinking mass quantities of alcohol. I guess this will just be set aside like a hopeful dream of the winning lottery ticket.
[Nexus 4 General] jraymond:
Ditto here.
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
I've already said this in multiple locations but I'll say it again - if this happens I'll be ****ing livid. Idk what I'll do... probably won't cancel... but **** I'll be pissed.

I feel like a ****ing apple fanboy right now. "Well they are screwing me but I'm still going to give them my money". And I hate myself for it.

I want an unlocked Note2 or something that will work 100% on TMo's network that I can pick up. I'd probably do it right now, even if it was double the price. I really want the vanilla android experience but idk... ****...
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
XDA was down, I almost died. D:
[Nexus 4 General] Ainvar:
I will have to check out the tour and also search google about Boulder Beer. What other knowledge can you throw my way sir?
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
[JeremeyClarkson] IT'S BACK [/JeremeyClarkson]
[Nexus 4 General] McKinely:
Alright guys, here's the deal. I work at UPS's logistics center here in Louisville, Kentucky. I am one of the few employees on the line of logistics whose job to pack packages according to the packing slip, and then send it off within the conveyor belt in which then places the shipping label and then is stored in the shipping area in which are waiting to be picked up to either be shipped via ground, one day, two day, etc.

I've registered with XDA forums because it is one of the fastest moving threads on the internet regarding the Nexus 4 fiasco and it’s my off day today and I’ve thought I should share some information relating to the release of this phone and how we do operate. Here’s what’s happened and is happening at the moment. November 12th, we received approximately 17,000 Nexus 4 devices from LG Korea/Google. 7,000 of these devices were 8GB devices, and the remaining 10,000 were the 16GB devices. The shipment was wrapped in stretch plastic wrap, stacked on wooden pallets. November 14th, we started then to unpack these pallets and take apart these devices so we can start packing and shipping.

Remember we work in all areas of the warehouse, we do not just ship out for Google, we have thousands of clients whom also use us for their shipping needs and we need to prioritize each client accordingly.

So you’re asking, what’s the delay? Where are these items being shipped out so slow? Because the shipping manifest that was received was incomplete from Google. We had further received additional customer information later on and were able to ship out then. Packaging each package takes only 5 seconds from hand on time to automated machines sticking the shipping labels on them and scanning them. Then they are transported on belts to their respected buckets in which they are picked up and start their journey throughout the UPS network. The remaining phones we’ve had on hand yesterday the 19th of November had dropped from about 890 16GB devices and about 340 8GB devices. We have managed to ship out everything yesterday. Meaning there is no more stock, and replenishing this stock will take time and is estimated as freight shipping dealing with sea (which Google is using) is slow.

So there you guys go.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
F5 complex here LOL
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
is everyone okay? no one is missing?
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
You lazy piece of carp. It was Logistic's fault as well as Google. :( :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
So you are saying they are all gone and we are waiting for more to come from Korea by SEA?
[Nexus 4 General] Ainvar:
I really hope the numbers you gave were missing a few digits. If not I appreciate your information and hope it is not reddit/4chan trolling.

Thank you also if this is honest info.
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
this thread is about to go ballistic...in 3...2...1...
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfoR8SbFhy8
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
whoaaaaaaa man i hope this isnt the case. do you know more phones are going to available and sent out?
[Nexus 4 General] lskeys:
Thanks beautiful!:D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] mtakako:
Sorry I am a LL2 and item is not shipped yet. Still the same since day one. Canadian order though.
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
17k units? Google really underestimated how these sales would go..
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Looking at ebay pisses me off even more. **** THESE EBAYERS THAT BOUGHT 10 ****ING PHONES!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/682275121/Sea_shipping_China_to_USA_Canada.html

25 day transit...that's about 3 weeks! :good:
[Nexus 4 General] derschlub:
Great.. never got a backorder notice and now I get to wait forever for my phones.. woo.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Longest 15 minutes of my day

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] pertelotte:
Are you telling me Google thought only 20,000 people were interested in the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
If this is true let me be the first to say thanks for the factual info. It sounds plausible... but who knows what's what at this point.

If you see this follow up: Since you said Google chose freight via sea for shipping additional devices from LG - Is there any ETA on when these devices will be arriving state-side (or more specifically at your UPS facility to be shipped to end customers)?
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
It doesnt really add up - why would LG delay the next shipment by 3 weeks? I would expect they would be churning them out, they could probably do 17000 in a week EASY if not a day. New pallets should be constantly on their way.
[Nexus 4 General] svengalis:
They only had 17k phones wtf!?
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
This is a troll.

#1. There is NO way that they only had 17k at launch. Extrapolate the demand from this site to the entire North America.

#2. What about the phones that shipped today from KY to Canada? Did they appear magically after this dude says they all shipped last night?

I am sure there are more enroute as we speak.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Did you even read the post?
[Nexus 4 General] derschlub:
USA, same situation. LL2, no backorder e-mail, no phones.
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
lmao. As soon as I saw a youtube link i had a pretty damn good idea what it was... except I expected http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I find it hard to believe that their going to waste time shipping by freight. Their losing money here on potential sales. Not to mention displeased customers.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Not to mention Holiday gifts!
[Nexus 4 General] McKinely:
You're welcome. Freight via sea takes about 3 weeks give or take a few days for a follow up from customs and such. Once we receive it in our warehouse, then we start unpacking once we receive customer information and then ship out via the service requested. In the case of Air freight it shouldn't take anymore than a few days to actually get to us.
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
I hope the UPS guy is real...

You'd have to be one of the lowest forms of life to troll this thread like that.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Ok so how long does this shipping take? I know you have one 8 gig there now cause it's mine and it got returned there today lol.

Nevermind you answered it already.
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
Just as this post has been trolled before, it's been trolled again.

I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4 Drinking club. Slam em if you got em...
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
Need pics of a pallet full of N4's. :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] illmatic90:
i dont know what to believe anymore...:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] elias0441:
Liar !!

This guy is a liar and a troll

google will never release how many nexus 4 they sold and how many are they shipping

trust me
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Sense of entitlement x1000000??

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
It sounds so plausible yet so fake. I don't know if I should believe this guy or not. I'm guessing Google choose sea shipping because of the cost?
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Not this fake Logistics worker.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
...unless somebody from UPS tells us - ta dah!

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
Well I understand that sea freight takes a few weeks and customs can take a few days (I work in international SSD sales), but I'm curious if you have details on the specifics of when the shipment is expected to arrive. I mean... did the most recent shipment of devices leave LG 2.5 weeks ago or did the latest shipment just leave the factory this past weekend?

And you mention air freight - what makes you bring that up? Is there any chance of google importing some devices via air freight to satisfy outstanding orders ASAP while other "standard" devices will be imported via sea transport?
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
XDA was down for a while, are you guys alright? I was worried about what ya'll will be doing.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Do your maths- Kentucky distributes to the entirety of America? No. Try 17,000 times how many hubs they have - that sounds realistic.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] mathi_vadhanan:
Followed up on the "all orders made on 13th will be delivered by 20th" BS email and go this.

No ETA and the 2-day shipping will 3-5 days now. Looks like they know nothing and are just like us. Google better come up with an official information, I'm LL3, btw.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Did Google say it was OK to out the truth of it or are you risking a reprimand?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Well they offer some Boulder beer here in VA, but having had most of the beers out there on tap, bottle is somewhat of a let down. Out here I'd try some good Midwest and East Coast stuff like beer put out by Founder's, Bell's, Brooklyn, Allagash, etc. Flying Dog creates their beer in Colorado, but produces and bottles all of it in Maryland, and it's pretty good... and cheap! For Colorado stuff... Oskar Blue's is great stuff, and only comes in a can. Sounds cheap, but I find any medium that lets in ZERO light tastes better... and fresher. That's why on tap is usually so good... that and constant carbonation. Other good Colorado stuff you can find at Total Wine (one of their best is in Chantilly) are Breckenridge, Great Divide, Avery, Tommyknocker, Bristol Brewing Company, Lefthand, Odell, Twisted Pine, and Ska. Most of these, if not all can be found in a big Total, some even at Harris Teeter as someone before mentioned.

Anyone receive shipping NOT from Canada (no offense, eh?)
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
WTF!!

I contacted play support today via the email option in play support and following is the response i got an hour back:

I still havent received any shipping confirmation. WTF do i make of this?? Is this BS or for real??
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
There's no way to know, with absolute certainty, if this person is trolling or not.

However, there has to be a building full of people, that actually saw the devices when they arrived. Whether Google releases the numbers or not, we do have to admit that there ARE people, that are not employed by Google, that know exactly how many N4s were in that warehouse.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
If business dictates I'd say 'maybe'

If costs dictate, I'd say 'no'

Sent from my Nexus 7

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Guess......

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
Everyone on here should flag the troll posts so a moderator can review them. No more BS in this thread.

There is no way 17k units were avail for the entire USA let alone North America, buy a clue people - SERIOUSLY.

Some of you are so f'ing naive.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
You read my post then.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
He could post proof of employer, ID or something. Meh.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
To pass time, how many UPS hubs/Distribution centers are there?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
That's asking for disciplinary.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] lskeys:
Just got this email.

From: googleplay-support@google.com [mailto:googleplay-support@google.com]

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:29 PM

To: L****

Subject: RE: [5-1010000000148] General questions

Hi L****

Thank you for contacting Google Play Support. I understand that you were inquiring about your order status. Seeing how difficult it would be to find this information I've researched and this is what I can do:

We are working to ship all items in your order as quickly as possible within the 3 week timeframe. You will receive an email confirmation as soon as your order is processed and on its way.

If there is anything I can do for you please reply to this email.

Regards,

Antoine

The Google Play Support Team

My reply:

Is this a damn joke ? What the f**k can you do?
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Heh... Heh...... Lester....
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
That's a black mark on your receipt ID.

Its just like N7 release.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
We're not demanding him, but it's hard to believe a random username online.
[Nexus 4 General] mengwu:
Unless they are shipping 5 million + units to US, sea shipping and air shipping won't make a dent in google's quarterly revenue. In fact, the good will google will get if they can get all the backorder filled or allow people to order new phones far outweights the amount of money they save by sea shipping.
[Nexus 4 General] ifanboys:
they are just copying and pasting email responses :(

i sent them 3 emails about my order... and all 3 responses were the same :P
[Nexus 4 General] scidon37:
Kentucky is THE MAIN UPS hub and their headquarters. Has anyone gotten a device that didn't originate in Kentucky? None that I've heard of. Not that I'm putting too much stock in this guy, but your debunk theory makes less sense.

Sent from Limbo Level 3 - 11:53:48 am
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
If the UPS guy was right, I think the emails the CSR's are talking about are just lagging notifications from yesterday or shipments like Foxy's that didn't make the plane. Sad news for us all, but as the 200-300 of us hanging around here haven't come online and posted shipping emails, and it's already almost 11 PM EST/8 PM PST, I think yesterday may have been it. Bummer.
[Nexus 4 General] McKinely:
When you’re distributing electronics all around the world, you have to consider which one of these continents would yield the most orders? The States have received 17,000 phones because the remaining batch had been distrusted to other areas as well.

I honestly don’t care if any of you believe me or think I’m trolling. There are people as mentioned by another member that have seen the actually number of phones come into the warehouse.

Next shipment should be soon. I don’t have that much access and I’ll let you guys know once we receive the next batch of Nexus 4s in our warehouse.
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
The person who works for UPS sounds legit to me...

Sure, it can be a fake... but why would anyone waste their time explaining whats going on?

It sounds like he has a good intention in telling ya'll this info.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
25 daysssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
Thats your chance to prove yourself. you gotta call it before the next storm of tracking numbers goes out.

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I think a lot of us just find the 17,000 unit figure extraordinarily low. It doesn't make sense, regardless of units available in other countrys.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
so.......basically our nexus 4s are floating over water right now.
[Nexus 4 General] bigmase521:
It's not my Nexus 4 but.. **** it! :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] illmatic90:
So first you say took the "sea" route and the phones could arrive in warehouse in 3 weeks. Now you say next shipment will arrive soon? Which one is it?
[Nexus 4 General] florian3000:
Where did you hear that from that there is so much chaos going on with the Nexus? I guess you usually just take stuff and ship it out, that's it, right? Or do you care about the story about the things you ship?
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
where are those Somali pirates when you need em?
[Nexus 4 General] lskeys:
I know the guy ordered and paid. But it is f**ked up that google will fill an order like this with all of us waiting. :(:(
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
soon, did he say which service google is using? if air it's soon, if sea then keep waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
If youre really working for UPS, please accidentally pack my package with an extra bumpercase and a hand drawn dinosaur.
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
The fact that there hasn't been another flood of shipping emails tonight, lends more credibility to what he's saying. I'm inclined to to think he's legit as well.
[Nexus 4 General] ErikWithNoC:
Lot's of people get a kick out of things like this. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it was a troll. Its not like what he said offered an "inside" glimpse of what its like working at UPS. Anybody could have said what he said.
[Nexus 4 General] dralways:
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.........
[Nexus 4 General] Kenneth131:
Trolled or not this is the closest to the truth as we are getting. No response from Google and no consistent word from CS. I would rather be told in honesty that they have no clue about what is going on than some random response to peoples genuine enquiries.

I'm not blaming cs reps I'm blaming the ones in charge who should know what is going on and let's be honest they do know whats going on so why not enlighten the few who still want to know where they stand.

Being told 2-3 weeks is vague especially when doubt is cast upon that estimate

Is this confirmed or is it just a guess like everything else? Only Google know. They place the orders with lg they have more info than they are providing

and tbh I can only hope more people who are on the ground dealing with the logistics and delivery of this device chip in because we sure as hell are not getting any answers from anyone at Google

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] the_r2d2:
this is what I sent to Google a little while ago...

I ordered at 12:01 EST, and people who ordered after me got their phones before me and are selling them on EBay and Craigslist with a premium. And I have to wait 3 weeks to get my phone. This is unacceptable.

ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC, GOOGLE, PATHETIC.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Exactly. Besides, what does it really matter if he's legit or not? Not like magically by believing or disbelieving our phones will appear (or disappear). Believe him, don't, doesn't matter in the end, we get our orders when we get them, and the guys at UPS (Louisville and everywhere else) continue throughout the holiday season working their collective butts off while we've forgotten all about this particular slice of limbo and move onto obsessing about something else.

:good::good:
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
This guy just HAPPENS to post right after the XDA-developers site was down for maintenance...

Sure, I smell a RAT!
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
Anyone else noticed that you can't leave a vendor review for Google Play in Google Wallet?
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
Right on! props to you for having the same logic as me. LOL
[Nexus 4 General] scidon37:
Well see if legit if he says another shipment has arrived and then shipping notifications go out.

You underestimate the gall of a bored adolescent who wants to say "Hey, look what I just did to these idiots waiting for a phone on the internet."

Or he could be completely legit.

Sent from Limbo Level 3 - 11:53:48 am
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
You don't have much access, but you know the number is 17k. Riiight. That is such an absurd number it isn't even worth mentioning again after this.

Keep on trolling. All of you naive people, keep on keeping on.

Cheers!

Go Wildcats!
[Nexus 4 General] ErikWithNoC:
You know, I'm not sure if I believe him either, but I don't think XDA being down has annnnnything to do with him showing up.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
This is the Play Store orders, shipping, and cats thread, not rats. Keep tabs on your animals, please. Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
The CSR I spoke to today blatantly lied to me....she didn't even try to twist the truth at least.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
and what if a turtle is carrying them in a backpack?:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] illmatic90:
in his first post he mentioned that google decided to take the sea route which i very slow. Then in his next post he said that next shipment was going to arrive soon, so now im just confused.
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
Phones may have left the factory 2 weeks ago, putting them in the states in ~1.5 weeks including customs. Phones could have left the factory 3 weeks ago and be arriving at customs now. His/her comments may still be accurate.

Obviously I'm taking everything with a grain (or 5) of salt but a lead is a lead. If you shoot it down from day 1 you will get nowhere. If you follow it with a bit of skepticism it may pay off.

I'm mostly interested why he/she mentioned air transit in their 2nd post when no one had mentioned air transit before then... I know the turn around time from the Asias to the states for bulk orders via air transit so the timeframes quoted sound plausible (albeit a bit short)... I just want to know what prompted him/her to offer that info. Is there word that google may be expediting some items overseas to fulfill outstanding orders ASAP?
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
it was all google's fault for only giving them 17,000 nexus 4. Like wtf is that.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Stealing iPhone 5's

Sent from my Nexus 7

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That was for one, ONE Distribution Center in ONE state/city..

C'mon!

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
There could be shipments that were already enroute before launch. If Google have completely underestimated demand though these could be small small shipments.
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
Troll, and reported along with your fake UPS friend. You 2 should really find a new hobby.

Happy Thanksgiving anyways.
[Nexus 4 General] ScottyNuttz:
They might have more than one boat...

...
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
It's possible that the next shipment left the factory only a couple of weeks after the first shipment left. ie Google knew they weren't going to have enough but shipped what they had for the launch to just get here and sent another shipment 2 weeks later to "fortify" what they had.

If it was only 2 weeks behind then it's going through customs right about now and will land in KY in a couple of days.

Just because the second shipment is by sea doesn't mean it isn't almost here already.

But then again the Back-Order email was pretty spot-on as far as who was going to get a phone and who wasn't. Maybe that 3-weeks thing was accurate too.