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[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
I swear if I am unable to order tomorrow I will... Do nothing because I only have $350 for a phone.

Googles got me by the balls and they know it.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Well it's $381ish for the 16gb model after tax and shipping...
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Bad move if you want it now. They are in NYC as I am, and it still takes about 3 weeks to have the items arrive at my house. It's a reliable company compared to some other deal-a-day sites, but the shipping is the only bad aspect. You would definitely get your N4 from the Play Store first. It could be a good deal for those who didn't even get an order in.

Re the wireless charging: the cover is for phones that don't natively have Qi charging abilities. I have seen quite a few for the iPhone 4/4s and Evo. But you don't need to worry about it :)
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
"Do our best"?? Oh fudge noooo! I didn't even bother looking at the return policy. Ppfft....pound sand. Can you tell I'm an impulse buyer?

Thanks big brothers! :)
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
$395.21 here :(
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Big brother is watching... Lol :)
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Thanks! I'll wait....but man was I ready! I think I'm going to buy that lg thingy. Might as well...the orb might end up a baby unicorn, like the Pogo dock for gnex.

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That's right ;)

What seller did you buy the lg thingy from? There are two? One that charges free shipping and the other $4 something, but the price equals the same.
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
I'm going 8GB! That's like $330 or something

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Don't forget the LG one beeps, if you are a light sleeper.
[Nexus 4 General] Christ1119:
Man I wish it were any of those prices you guys are mentioning.

16GB is $422.xx with taxes and shipping in Canada, Ontario -__-
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Is that due to custom duties or something? That's really high! Whats the tax rate in Ontario?
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I sleep like a tank but I read all the comments and seems a few people are just being dramatic. Yes it beeps when you put it on and then when its done but sounds like the people who say it beeps all the time and for nothing may be smoking the ganja.
[Nexus 4 General] ibarra21:
This is killing me. How come the Google Play store doesn't have the "Notify Me" button for the Nexus 4?

Another thing, did anyone here order from Texas? How much is it with after taxes + shipping?
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I want a bumper period.... but for no more than $50.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
I read a few posts that it doesn't beep all night for no reason. But the charging shuts off when the battery is full. In a lil while when the battery goes down a little bit, it starts charging again and it beeps.

I wouldn't care since i am not a light sleeper, but I got the Energizer one since it shipped free with Prime :)
[Nexus 4 General] Christ1119:
No customs. Just a nice 13% in taxes (along with the 16.99 shipping)
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
we pay 13% on average in canada, no duties from US. Also, the list price is 309$/359$ 8gb/16gb. 16$ shipping. Totals 372$/422 8gb16gb
[Nexus 4 General] jblack41510:
My 16g order was $392.94 to Dallas tx
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Oh my.... My 16gb came to $384.80, when they take off shipping, and they will, it'll be $370.79.... I'm sorry, that stinks! I have family in Mississauga that tell me prices are nuts there.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
OMG that's insane! I guess that's the price you pay for universal healthcare LOL

I'm sorry guys. You need to make friends in the US. It would probably be cheaper. $395 to NYC, then $10 in a small flat rate box from NYC to Canada. Still cheaper than what you are paying.
[Nexus 4 General] akkiman:
Shipping:	$13.99

Tax:	$14.52

Total:	$377.51

This was to Queens.
[Nexus 4 General] Christ1119:
Yeah it is pretty crazy, we even pay an extra $10 for the N4 over here even though the dollar was even at the time of release I believe (correct me if I'm wrong here), sucks.

But then there's a good chance the buyer would get dinged with customs charges, kinda eliminating any savings :/
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
How? I live in Whitestone, Queens. I am getting banged for $32 tax

Item

Price

Nexus 4 (16GB) - The next generation phone. Thin, light, and designed for Google Play.

$349.00

Shipping (Two Day):

$13.99

Tax:

$32.22

Total:

$395.21
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
No this is not true go and check again. I paid around $400 for 16GB and I am in queens as well.
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
I won't pay more than $15 for the bumper. Plus I don't think that it will give the N4 enough protection
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
6% sales tax in PA, I can't imagine paying more than 8%, never mind 13%!

Anyone from PA get an 8GB? How much was it?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Eh.. I thought all boroughs had the same tax rate. Mine was 395.21 as well.

Mine ships to Manhattan but I live in queens as well. LL3 Queens Army.
[Nexus 4 General] aSquard:
Hmm... My 16GB was 390.21 (DF-Dub area also)

Not a big difference, but it makes me wonder

Paranoid Android on the Nexus and XDA Premium
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
It should be. I think its 8.875% now.

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The forum is dead, might as well go to bed. g'nite all :) Here's looking forward to Monday night surprises!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Well the bumper total in the play store is $27.... don't think you'll find for $15.

I think protection will be fine since I got a full body armor too.

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Na-nites! Happy dreams!
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Nanites!

Is it bad that when I get this and take it out of my pocket I want the crysis nanosuit voice to go "Maximum Phone"
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
we are used to it to the point that when we see a 300$ price tag we don't even think, we automatically know 300$ isn't 300$ but 350$. Couple years ago it was even 15%. But we also know if we get cancer we don't go bankrupt :p.

(Btw I'm not trying to make a politcal point here, I'm just saying if you are born in Canada you are just used to taxes and don't really care at one point)
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
Is a case really necessary? I never used on my GNote and I only use one on my N7 one sometimes.

Also, is the back shell with the glass the first part to come off upon opening it? If so it'll be easy to replace so I don't need to baby it too much.

Sent from my Nexus 7

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I guess its a way of life. Here in PA we expect terribly crappy roads and don't take it as a surprise. When other people come they freak out.

When I was in Canada I couldn't believe the prices on food. My McDonalds order was almost 2x as expensive as it is in the states. It did help me eat a bit healthier though :p

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Haha on top of expensive fast food I also pay 48% on income tax! But at least houses are 1/4 of the states prices! Lol
[Nexus 4 General] kilolum:
here in germany we pay 19%!!

so the canadian people still pay less..

422 CAD = 327.56108 EUR

i had to pay 349€ for 16gb.

349 EUR = 449.6200 CAD....

but same over here. you dont go bankrupt, when you get cancer ;) and over here all the prices on the pricetags have taxes already included. so at least we dont have to calculate everytime we wanna buy something
[Nexus 4 General] ketonkss4:
Wow they must have really spun some political magic to get people to agree to give half their paychecks...wow.

Anyways back to topic.. LL3. No updates on anything... got a letter in the mail today from UPS only to find out it was only a "welcome to mychoice" message... skrew those guys for getting my hopes up
[Nexus 4 General] Shadowguy:
So your like filthy rich right?
[Nexus 4 General] hunterhp:
What's the warmest place in Canada during the winter time?
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
Don't you watch Breaking Bad? Its a well known fact that if you have cancer but no money you just cook meth!

Anyway, my aunt was diagnosed with cancer a little over a year ago and she didn't go broke! There's a lot of financial help out there for those who can't afford it.

Oh um back to the Nexus 4!

Sent from my Nexus 7

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Victoria BC has the mildest winters

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
Tomorrow ladies and gentlemen!

Now I sleep, and wake up in 3 hours for my 8am class. FML
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
You hit the income tax ceiling of 48% much sooner than the "filthy rich level" let me tell ya lol

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Yellowknife
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
No more magic than the US spun when its upper-level rates were far higher than that in the 1950s.
[Nexus 4 General] toonhead85:
I think my order shipped

I am posting to see if this has happened to anyone else. I went onto UPS.com and did a reference search. After inputting all of my information the system returned 1 package (previous tries were unsuccessful). It apparently weighs in at about 15.4 lbs and was shipped out on 11/21, but isn't supposed to arrive until 11/30.

So here is my question, is that about the weight of the package? and has anyone else had one ship from WA, USA?

INFO - I'm on the East Coast USA, Previously level 3 status since 11/15 and have no information outside of the canned response from CSR at Google.

Thoughts? That's pretty slow shipping, but the other 2 packages I have pending or in route are shipping USPS!!
[Nexus 4 General] c0LdFire:
No, that isn't it. The package has been roughly 1.5-2lbs. Think realistically for a moment - how the hell does a modern smartphone and a charger equal out to 15lbs?

Google also exclusively uses 2 day shipping or overnight.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
You are using one person as an example. Many people earn too much for financial assistance but cannot afford the fees involved when someone has a bad illness.

I know because someone I ease very close to had to actually sell his house when his child had leukemia and he did have to file bankruptcy once the insurance company reached their limit.

Being a web designer and website dev I have no insurance myself. I take 3 different medications and on average I have to pay over $200 a month. On the months I have to go for a doctor visit it is much more.

I would be happy to pay a higher percent in taxes to have medical care. I figure I end up praying it anyhow. Not too mention that sometimes I cannot even follow medical advice because I cannot afford it. Right now they want me to get a blood test that costs over $1200...

So back on topic, I have a good feeling we will have our phones this week or at least some info!!

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
Finally, seeing that others hardwares are back in stock....i think that the nexus 4 will be always sold little by little

Even if they are from different producers, i can imagine that this is the situation that "everyone" (not customers) would have at this moment...

...only to help other retailers to sell this at the "premium" price.
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
Just got an email from Google, I was like "HMMMM!" but didn't expect good news.

It was a reply from an email I sent four days ago, and they are just reminding me I'm on backorder (jeez rub it in!).

I asked if there's any new information on it, so I might hear back in another four days who knows....

More useless information here, sorry.
[Nexus 4 General] vinay427:
Is that a joke by any chance? :confused: Wikipedia says that its temperatures range from -31C to 21C (-24F to 70F)...
[Nexus 4 General] uEih:
From my understanding there's a sticker on the back of the nexus 4 for the IMEI. If you take it off will it leave any mark, does it have a border for the sticker, or is it going to be a clean look after taking it off?

http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Nexus-4-bumper-case-back.jpg

And a video that shows the sticker on the back at some parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvuFn_fbUBo
[Nexus 4 General] cloud1111:
That sticker is on the plastic cover that covers the whole back area of the phone. Doesn't leave any mark whatsoever.
[Nexus 4 General] uEih:
Thanks! I thought it was on the glass. Now i hope i can experience that first hand this week. This is going be a hard week knowing it can ship any minute now.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I am starting to think I will never get this phone. It seems there are so many people here what are returning the phone for little or no reason at all. I am sure they had a stock set aside for exchanges but how many?

Surely they will have to dip into the stock meant for back orders. People know how easy it is so many are just exchanging.

If I don't get the phone this week I have to start shopping for an alternative and there really isn't one at this price.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
don't loose faith ...it's still monday, the week is just begun :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
It is funny because before I was one of the few telling people not to worry. I am really starting to notice though just how many people are exchanging and many of them are doing it for nothing. I just read a post where he had the yellowing but it disappeared after he changed the kernel.. he still exchanged.

I hope we here something soon. From 3 to 5 days to 3 weeks is way to long.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
are you one of the limboers?

I still wait the restock for ordering this great phone. Luck of limboers is my luck...hope that all would have soon their shipping emails. I can't wait anymore :(
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Yeah this is getting annoying, waiting and waiting. Maybe next time, if people order and Google meet their demand, people should not be able to order it. Instead they should be given the option to pre-order for the next shipment arriving. And also, when the stock is empty, it should say on the page "three weeks".

Is that so hard Google?
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
I am on back order. I got the notification on the 15th. I have ignored the whole limbo thing. I am just back ordered I believe.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
this is insane ..just woke up to this

from where did these guys get stock

http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
[Nexus 4 General] nabnas12:
Interesting .......
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
That is hilarious! They are claiming the list price as $799!! Liars!!!!

Wait until the Chinese knock offs start showing up.

sent via xda premium with nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
not the price bro ..they are selling it is what concerns me ....the question is from where did they get the stock ...has to be either from Google or LG ...
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
Got all excited from a myups text... Was just amazon

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Why is the fact that people are exchanging worrying you? Because of possible issues or because you think they are taking from our potential phones?
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
This made me Lawl and honestly it's too early for that.
[Nexus 4 General] mrallen81:
Ok so I've just got off the phone with Google play, and the guy said the alot of the orders that WAS on hold are being shipped, mine is still on hold something about waiting for quantity?? But should be with me by the end of the week l, fingers crossed :D

Sent from Nexus 4 only if Google move there ass!
[Nexus 4 General] Thandrophir:
Haha, that product description is excellent:

"I ran straight into the phone store and knocked over a line of people and a rack full of phones. Unapologetic, I picked myself up and ran immediately to an employee, demanding the best Android experience possible.

“Give me the best Android experience possible you disgusting peon,” I said to him.

He suggested the LG Nexus 4 so I punched him in the face.

“That sounds good,” I told him. “Give it to me now.”
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
End of the week is fine by me. Granted we did get that info from a csr...
[Nexus 4 General] kcm117:
I refuse to believe

I still believe they have ~10 answers that are randomly picked out of a hat. Whichever answer they get is what they tell the next person that calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Maybe they do, rock paper scissors game.. Like victor is always saying the same thing. :p
[Nexus 4 General] alchemistkevin:
No updates here... UK order placed on day 1 after staying up all night
[Nexus 4 General] kcm117:
This was my first time ordering anything from the play store........I will never do it again for a launch.
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
I bought (eventually) an N7 at launch. It wasn't the best experience. Even more hilarious is the fact that none of the accessories are even available 6 months after the release... not even the charger or case, let alone the dock...

Based on that experience, I don't hold out much hope for the N4 bumper :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] mauge:
N4 bumper is in stock here:

http://ludalex.soupwhale.com/n4checker/?type=n4_black_bumper
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
website is not responding? which country ?
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
Just wow.

...
[Nexus 4 General] TonyHoyle:
It's 'in stock' but if you order it you end up with a pending order.. welcome to bumper limbo!
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
I don't think this means much at all. They take about a month to get you anything and my gnex I got from them was delayed at least that long. If you are backordered you will get yours faster than that.
[Nexus 4 General] mauge:
UK and Australia
[Nexus 4 General] VoiD_Dweller:
Rock paper scissors lizard spock!
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
I am not expecting the BO phones to ship before next week Monday at the earliest. If they come before that I'll consider them "early."

The Play store will be restocked about the same time and will probably sell out soon after.

Those guys at the daily steals site never ship anything for weeks. They'll be shipping when the N4's come in for them too some time in the future. Hopefully they won't oversell like a bunch of stone-age pre-technology wetawds like Google did at the N4 launch. They should know exactly how many they are getting and how many they can sell. In a few more weeks there will be more N4s out there but I bet they will sell out again fast demand is higher than the supply and will be for some time. I don't expect the N4 to stay in stock for more than a few hours or a day or so at a time until well after christmas.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Lizard spock? never heard of those 2, we only use the other 3 xd
[Nexus 4 General] atticus182:
It's a Big Bang Theory joke :p

Take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock
[Nexus 4 General] housry23:
Munchy, I have purchased from Daily Steals before. Trust me, their shipping is the slowest EVER!!! It will be 2-3 weeks before you have the device or anything you order from them in hand. They are a great daily deals site and are legitimate, but they are extremely slow at processing and shipping orders. If you are in limbo, you will more than likely have your device before Daily Steals gets your to you. If you have not yet ordered, this may be a viable option for you. But, keep in mind, if you order from them today and Play Store gets some in tomorrow for order, you'll probably kick yourself over and over.
[Nexus 4 General] pandamaja:
Welp, I've almost seen it all in this thread. Communism? Really, we just need to fulfill Godwin's Law.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
Thanks bro , but my whole point is that from where are they getting stock ??

Nexus 4 back ordered , forced to use an iPhone 4S , blame Google
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
They stole them from Google Play and that's why none of us LL3's has one yet! That has to be it.. Why else would Google be so slow??? LOL
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
Lol , yeah they must have bought in bulk either from Google or Lg or they plan to

Nexus 4 back ordered , forced to use an iPhone 4S , blame Google
[Nexus 4 General] teknhard:
I said the same thing after ordering the nexus 7 at launch, yet here I am. Limbo again.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Probably just straight from LG. It would be a lot easier on their part.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
makes sense and LG won't have to sell to Google at a lower price as well because the warranty does say LG ..
[Nexus 4 General] housry23:
I would have to agree. They have carried Gnex's before so maybe they have some sort of agreement with the Goog. This actually may be a good sign for us ll3's. Maybe Google got some stock in today and will shipping as well.
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
I'm praying they ship today.
[Nexus 4 General] FoxyGrandpa:
Today's the day. I can feel it! (hopefully)
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
if they are buying from Google that's some awesome sh*t, shows that Google does not give a sh*t about it's customers (we already know they don't , just another nail in the coffin) but yeah maybe good news for us LL3's but what about the people who could'nt order and are waiting for them to be in stock in the play store again.

Maybe Google got 2 ships full of N4's this time ..lol

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Amen.
[Nexus 4 General] parelem:
right there with you
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
like me :(
[Nexus 4 General] walloftext:
Because their list price is 800$, I would assume they bought it from LG. There was a lot of info about LG selling these for 600 euro while google sold it for a lot less and how European businesses were irritated with LGs pricing. So, 600 Euro is approx 778 USD, plus import tax, comes out to about $800, so the list price corresponds to the price it would take to buy from LG and I doubt google would sell them in bulk.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
In the past they tended to get their stuff from international stock so it is more likely they got it from lg or an international distributor. I doubt they have anything to do with Google.

As an aside, my wife really wants a note 2. Talk about expensive for one with aws bands for T-Mobile. I have unlimited everything plan so my bill is cheap but I don't get subsidized phones. Just for the 16 GB model it is over 600 everywhere. Through me, my wife has been using nexus phones for the last two years but for someone who doesn't tinker at all with software, that phone is perfect for her. If anyone here knows of a cheaper way of getting it let me know :)
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I refuse to go there. People use references to that monster way too flippantly.
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
After consulting with our shipping department, I've found that your device is indeed on backorder. *Being that it is on backorder, your device will ship within two weeks.

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Best,

Carmelita

The*Google*Play Support Team
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
I love everyone getting pissed off at google based on assumptions made by other random people on the internet that have no clue what they are talking about..

No one here knows anything about what is going on, there isn't anything official on how Google and LG are partnering to get the phones out but everyone keeps repeating the same stuff like if it were official...

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What did you expect? If you haven't gotten it by now and got a BO email it's pretty safe to believe Google and their "up to 3 week" estimate