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[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
So from what people are saying, were waiting on a shipment from the manufacturer in Korea and its coming on a shipping container by sea which takes 2 weeks to a month, right? I work in shipping and I can confirm its true that shipping by sea from china/Korea does take that long. But why would they send something like cellphones in a shipping container? Why not air freight? Especially since a) they're already back ordered, b) shipping by sea on a container can potentially water damage the product, and c) Google is as multi- billion dollar company that could easily afford air shipping from overseas... just doesn't make sense to me
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
If the ll3 orders go out first/same time there's no problem. If the new orders go out first then expect anger, pitchforks and many new memes.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
LTE crap.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Let's not make any assumptions that they're going to recall it. We don't know what's going to happen.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I don't think they will recall it for that.
[Nexus 4 General] androidi10:
So instead of shipping orders of 1 device, they shipped 34 phones to one customer who ended up selling them on ebay

What a great launch google
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Verizon recalled the Galaxy Nexus for Google Wallet. Who knows?
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
i think someone needs to slap Google in the head so they can snap back into reality, so hopefully next time they make it 2 limit per person.
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
Perhaps Google is seeking some kind of passed-on licensing deal with carriers if they want the Nexus 4 to work on Band for LTE. For example, if T-Mobile wanted to the Nexus 4 to be able to work on their LTE, then they would have to activate it and pay the royalties to Qualcomm for each LTE-enabled Nexus 4 on their network. I don't know that being able to enable LTE on the Nexus 4 spells immediate danger of a recall or sales injunction.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I totally agree with you! I would think a small device that sells for a higher price point could be shipped air freight. Then again there is probably a small margin on these and the original buy was pricing based on sea shipping. I doubt anyone at Google wants to be responsible for pulling the trigger on air freight and settling for a narrower margin. I'd be willing to bet the next shipment had already left or was about to leave port.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
maybe the phones were already in a boat when Google sold out.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
They're probably breaking even on the 8 GB Nexus 4's, but they're definitely making more on the 16 GBs. 8 GB of additional storage is not $50.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
We hope! :o
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
I think Google like any company likes money. Cheaper to ship by sea.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Additionally, no matter how slow the shipment is, its irrelevant without knowing the departure time. On top of that it is more than likely it had already left before the first shipment even arrived.
[Nexus 4 General] dmkozak:
No assumptions? Then how did this thread get to be almost 3000 posts? JK
[Nexus 4 General] FISKER_Q:
Don't worry about the pricing, typically it's a straight $/€ conversion (Sometimes even slightly cheaper on the US side) so i would guess $69.99 if anything.
[Nexus 4 General] Arcturus55:
Nearly every product today is shipped via container ship, because it is the cheapest way of mass shipping products. It takes 12-14 days for cargo ship to arrive from China/Korea to the West of USA and another 1-7 days in customs/sortation so their estimate of 3 weeks seems accurate. b) Is completely wrong in every possible way, the only way products can get water damaged is for the ship to sink and that does not happen very often. c) Yes Google could of shipped the phones via air freight, but this is extremely expensive and every pound costs a serious premium. I'm infuriated with the back orders just like the next guy, but you cant expect Google to individually UPS the Nexus 4 via next day air straight from the factory to your home. They are already making a very small profit margin per N4 they sell compared to similar smartphones on the market.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I did a quick count just now and 73.4% of the posts in this thread are speculation ;)

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Somebody at Google could at least whip up a live tracking of the ship on Google maps. That would keep us all happy for the next 10 days. :good:

Oh course then we would have to call this the nexus 4 shipping thread .... oh never mind
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
In order to live up to their promised "within 3 weeks shipping," if using ship freight, then the current batch would have to already have been shipped to fulfill backorders. Since it takes about 3 weeks to get here, and probably spends another few business days going through customs, there is no way they could use freight for a brand new shipment to get here on time now. Companies usually give themselves extra time to work as well, so I'm almost positive that the 3 week statement allows them to account for 2 shipments to arrive to help fulfill backorders on time (their systems were admittedly a mess in the wake of the initial sale, so they probably wanted to make sure 2 shipments could fulfill backorders as additional cushion time). It seems to me that they may be getting shipments on Mondays (what with the huge spur of activity last Monday), so I'm guessing that a fair amount of backorders might be handled this coming Monday, with any remaining backorders taken care of by the following Monday.
[Nexus 4 General] elias0441:
Nexus 4 goin on sale at three ( carrier) in the U.K. on Dec 13

It's coming people...

http://androidcommunity.com/three-announces-galaxy-nexus-4-coming-december-13-20121123/
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Yes but they had to expect some greater demand and ordered some phones prior to the release so that they have a continuos flow...that would be the resonable thing to do. And CS tells us we have to wait up to three weeks (this was since the phone got sold out). Therefore it is highly likely the ship sailed 2 weeks ago and should arrive with our phones next week or the week after. Otherwise we have been lied to. And I dont like lies. No one likes lies.

:good:?

;)
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
Monday seems to be a good day to ship and take more orders .. Cyber Monday ...again all speculation guys .. It's all a guessing game now as Google ain't giving any updates

Nexus 4 back ordered , forced to use an iPhone 4S , blame Google
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
dont worry rumor has it our nexus are traveling in one of this:
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
I know...right load of codswallop...because of this I purchased on the 18th and I'm now in backorder hell...with no email. No phone yet either.

sent from Briarcliff Mental Institution
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Until the next half-baked post about them selling some on Tuesday and the thread explodes and then that comes and goes just like today did.

My guess is they will ship at some point next week, though that's only because the timeframe makes sense to me.
[Nexus 4 General] bleuiko:
Hey Everyone, I have updated news about my situation... but just to recap.

1. I ordered at 8:33AM on 13th, received confirmation :cool:

2. Like a lot of people, I received no information for the next few days after 2 CSR calls. :confused:

3. On the 19th, Google shipped my phone via UPS Next Day Air. :D

4. On the 20th, no phone showed up; spoke to CSR at UPS who said it will be delivered the next day for sure. :fingers-crossed:

5. On the 21st, no phone showed up; spoke to CSRs at UPS and at Google; phone is now considered

lost

but Google will make good. :crying:

6. Spoke to 3 CSR on 22nd, all says there is a special stock of Nexus 4 and Google will make good and case is with specialist. :(:good:

7. Specialist emailed me and disabled lost device on 22nd, stating I will be refunded and can re-order. :rolleyes:

8. Emailed specialist and called CSR again today, both confirmed the following:

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Hello Joseph,

Thanks for contacting Google, sorry to say this, however, at this time you will have to wait until we get more stock. The other agent misspoke on this issue. If there is anything I can help you further with, please feel free to reply to this email, or visit our help center.

Mike

Google Play Support Team

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:(:crying::(:crying::(:crying:
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I feel a little better now :)
[Nexus 4 General] Turb0wned:
A local T-Mobile store has 2 in stock right now.... So tempting to get one and just get the Value plan...
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
I talked to Mike as well.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Ouch that is just terrible. Now I don't feel so bad being in BO land. You got screwed way worse than us. They got your hopes up and then absolutely crushed them. Sorry man :(
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
So tempted to cancel the order. I have been using the Optimus G for a a couple of days. Although it is "considered" a power house, the battery life isn't the best and it has been shutting off on me at least once a day. I have been wondering if the Nexus 4 is going to have the same issues.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
If you're getting a TMo plan anyway might as well. Are you really going to dump them for AT&T if you don't like them?
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
With an additional 18.4% CSR incompetence, 7.8% discussion of proper pitch- and torchfork assembly, and 0.3% feline-related posts.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Absolutely awful story. You would think that had your phone actually gone out and was lost that they would use some of that replacement stock to fix the issue. Maybe they really are bone dry out of devices.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Man these guys really need to get their stories straight. The worst part of this whole experience is the fact that people are getting 10 different answers for the same question on the same day in some cases.

Just have one story and stick to it. They HAVE to fix this if they are serious about selling devices. MUST.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Nice call out on the feline posts ... well done :good:
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Horrible news man. I hope they resolve this issue with stock quickly. Sorry to hear about your lost phone.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] NexusIncarnate:
Don't get a value plan unless you buy the phone outright. If you do their deal where you pay $20/mo for the phone then you will have to pay off the phone and an ETF if you try and cancel. If you buy it outright, the Monthly 4G plans are cheaper and a better deal, or go with Straight Talk.

I grabbed one from t-mobile with the classic plan, and I'm going to cancel the contract. Verified in the contract and on the phone that I can cancel it for $200 with no other device fees. Total cost will be $400 for the phone which is close to the google play store after shipping and taxes. May cost me a bit more with the first month fees.
[Nexus 4 General] bleuiko:
Just a fair warning to people who are thinking about buying a device on CL or eBay. If the phones are stolen, Google can disable them via serial so that they cannot be used anymore.

Yeah, this has shown me how absolutely inexperienced Google is at selling devices. Good luck to all of you who are BO; Google won't even place an order for me so I'll have to wait for the page to update again and do this crazy order business all over again. Ugh, this has totally wasted hours of my life and made me feel terrible. I'm not sure if a phone is worth this.
[Nexus 4 General] Turb0wned:
Im actually on T-Mobiles prepaid $70 plan. I also would get a 15% discount on the bill and activation fees waived. I don't know what to do, I don't mind waiting a another week but I also don't know what to believe from Google, this seems like it could turn out to be alot more than a 3 week backorder.
[Nexus 4 General] z3nith66:
Guys just stop it, at least you'll get your damn phones. What can I say being from a country where Play Store doesn't sell devices?

My only hope is a friend coming from the states on the 13th of December, so I kind of have to order the device and it has to reach him by the 12th of December.

So...quit your damn whining. If it gets restocked in mid December you have pretty big changes you'll get it before Christmas. I, on the other hand, will remain without a phone.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
The company I work for imports industrial laminators from China. Sometimes when the containers are shipped on the bottom layer of the ship they get wet from the water that collects on the bottom from splashover from the waves and such. It's not often but it happens
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
This is called LIMBO 5 - The raped one.

Jeez mate, im sorry to hear this but, wth?!
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Oh, if you already have TMo it might be cheaper to buy it outright, but at that point just wait for Play store to get more stock to save $150. I never did the math since I'm just going to continue flying with my family plan.

If you are going to continue paying $70/mo wether you subsidize it or not you might as well subsidize it. :) Shrug.
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
I imagine the situation at Google is something like this

Underling: Sir stock is now over 500k we are ready to go.

Larry: Hold off a bit, this xda thread is amusing, its not got to 30000 posts yet.

Sergey: Wait till they see my troll post claiming to be a Korean freighter captain grounded in the pacific with the nexus delivery.
[Nexus 4 General] ratm183:
I need a working phone. I'm about to give up and order a refurbished s3 for $30 on AT&T
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
Hi everyone. I'm here to share some news.

My name is Seung. I am a Korean freighter captain. I'm in charge of the ship containing your devices.

Unfortunately, the ship has sunk and we are now grounded in the Pacific. We are working hard to get you your devices within the 3 week timeframe. The shipping fee will be waived.
[Nexus 4 General] pyee0124:
b-b-but.. I thought that's what this thread was for :(

Also, sorry to hear that you aren't able to order. But on the otherhand you probably didn't have the pleasure of getting a confirmation email, followed by "Due to overwhelming demand..." a few days later. :)
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
:mad:
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
I think Larry missed a zero there.
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Fixed it.

I apologise for my mistake. See Google apologies are easy.
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/23/nexus-4-earpiece-buzzing

hopefully a little wait means we wont have noise issues....one bright thing at least
[Nexus 4 General] z3nith66:
Yeah but at least I'd knew I'm gonna get it in three weeks or so...

Now...nothing is certain.

What annoys me most is Google's silence about this. They should at least say something about a new batch, or give a good reason as to why so many of you are backordered.

From my perspective it's something like this:

Google: You're backordered and we won't tell you when we get a restock.

Customer: WHYY???!!

Google: Because **** you, that's why.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
You mean a little more than a little wait? Because I don´t think the phones being shipped now are flawless. Its the same ones as the ones who got them last week.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Thanks Seung! At least we are hearing something!

Can you please help me rest assured though? I am not 100% confident unless I can rest in an assured state. Thanks for all you are doing to help us!
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
I don´t think they will speak even if they get re-stocked though :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
if you read the article it says some are not effected so it was probably only one batch made
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Well it seems you don´t know more than I do when you write "probably". Besides, one batch might have been defect but then next might as well be.

I don´t know, just speculating.
[Nexus 4 General] emailrob:
I highly doubt they would send this by sea. Sea shipments are notoriously unreliable, whereas aeroplane shipments are quicker but of course more expensive. I would imagine the 2-3 week timeline means they are making and packaging more at their suppliers - else if they were sitting in a warehouse in Korea they would have just sent them via aeroplane and have done with it? Phones take time to make and test, package, distribute, get to US, get to KY, send out etc.

So me? I'm hopeful we'll get something next week rather than the week after. They need that second week to sort out people who really didn't get it when they 'should' have done...
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Omg I almost cried for you.

Would you like a canadian goverment also? Or perhaps we can pay your countries debt since all countries are meant to be equal.

If you are not happy with your country, we are extremely open to immigration.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I've lost all hope but yet I still have auto refresh running on the play store....
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
Day 5... we're running low on food. Google said they would send a backup ship "within 3 weeks". I woke up this morning with "3 weeks" scarred into my skin. I don't know how it got there. I must say though, we're very much enjoying the fountain of Nexus 4's we built. We're currently trying to build a raft out of Nexus 4's as well. We'll try to keep you updated.
[Nexus 4 General] marco.roman89:
I'm extremely close to just buying one from ebay...I want an 8gb one for less then 430...someone please talk me out of it because I might just pull the trigger. Can I still cancel my Playstore order hassle free? I'm in Limbo 3 and have a bad feeling about getting these devices soon tbh.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
did you get switched to pending? Most people that got changed to pending had a cancel button added to their order.
[Nexus 4 General] feelfreetoblameme:
You forgot about the shemale percentage. But maybe that's a good thing. I've been trying to forget for days.
[Nexus 4 General] mp5cartman:
Been on limbo 2, been told numerous times mines not backorder and they expedited my order blah blah. I called again today after waiting 3 days without calling. NOW they are saying mine is on backorder! WTF is this BS! I ordered around 8:50AM PST. This is the worst buying expierence ever. Also google play customer service needs to stop calling me buddy. "sorry about that buddy" "i got that expedited for you buddy" STFU! And most of em sound fing stoned.
[Nexus 4 General] blade_:
please two simple questions

shipping is free in us?

when do we expect to see 8gb online in US again?

thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] marco.roman89:
I did and just saw the cancel button...Oh my I'm not sure if I should buy it from Ebay for 70 more minus my bumper :(
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Thanks for your information captain.. now kill urself.

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9100 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Shipping is not free unless you are backordered.

Don't expect orders to be accepted until around mid may, when the freight ship docks. Yes, I said May.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Wait lemme call Sergey for u..

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Whitin' 3 weeks mate !

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9100 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
It could ship Monday. If it doesn't, you're halfway through the wait. Don't pull the trigger, not only are you throwing money away but you are also helping the people that put us in this position (scalpers).
[Nexus 4 General] marco.roman89:
Darn! You convince me because you're right about those damn scalpers that screwed us over
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
**** these scalpers. There's so many of them on ebay that could have gone to people who were actually buying it for the purpose of using it. PISSES ME OFF!!!! ESPECIALLY THE SELLER THAT MANAGED TO BUY 34!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
+1 to this.

Plus... If you are in the US... better to give TMobile the money for this thing than some ebay scalper. At least then you will have a prayer of warranty service when you get a rattly speaker, camera, or scratches right out of the box! Some are either going out today, or monday night. If not, we are in it till that damn 3 week deadline.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
So, question is - should I tell them I didn't receive any back order email? :)
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Don't think it matters, they will probably just send an email confirming within 3 weeks in either case.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I've told a couple of them I haven't. Didn't make a difference. Hey forwarded me to a specialist that has yet to contact me.
[Nexus 4 General] blade_:
thanks for answer...whats the really answer?

may???in 6 months?seriously?

thanks ibsonic...3 weeks very bad :(
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
LOL this guy!

Dude, you might have overestimated this thread....like by alot

:good:?

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Sign me up for the pitchfork commitee. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
The specialist knows.
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
Just think about how dumb you'd feel if you ended up buying it off eBay from some jackass who has the device that probably should have been yours in the first place, and then Google ships the device to us LL3ers the next day...

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We're right there with ya buddy! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
nexus 4 works with LTE

not sure if this been posted here before:

http://www.gsmarena.com/lte_can_be_enabled_on_the_nexus_4_works_on_canadian_networks-news-5116.php
[Nexus 4 General] pyee0124:
This link will likely cause more anxiety..
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
a day old news....
[Nexus 4 General] snavid972:
anyone think its worth buying for $500?
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
:eek: ooopsss looks like i am late.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
yeah ...you even missed the commotion caused by this with speculations that Google will stop selling the N4 coz of this
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
It's worth it but I wouldn't. I refuse to pay a premium on this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
It's most likely worth $500 but the fact that they sell it starting at $300 is part of what makes this phone so great. This phone should become the new standard in smart phones in the US. If you buy one for more than that, what's the point? You can get any snapdragon 4 phone for around that much (though it's not pure android).
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
If I could find a 16GB at 499$ plus tax, I would do it in heartbeat.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro VZW)
[Nexus 4 General] tuffballa:
i found one for 8gb at $420..sealed in box!! should i pull the trigger??? or wait??

p.s im not in BO or anything i just havent ordered yet still waiting for new stocks.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
They have no clue if you actually got it or not, the CSR just gives you information based on you truthfully answering it. The CSR I talked to basically said as much in a joking manner. Lying to them will just get you "No BO Email" canned answer which will be incorrect information.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
420 for 8gig is a rip. If I'm gonna pay a markup on the phone, I'd better get the 16gb.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro VZW)
[Nexus 4 General] ryanbmw51:
If I were you I'd be at the ATM right now getting the cash.
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
Break in to the warehouse and send us all phones!
[Nexus 4 General] hotwire:
Yes its a tap kit or something like that. I use them to connect ice makers
[Nexus 4 General] gab_hamelin:
I dont think so... water will be everywhere when you cut the cupper
[Nexus 4 General] Clyzm:
I'll be that lunatic standing outside their doors chanting. GIVE US THE NEXUS 4.

All for you.
[Nexus 4 General] mikeang45:
I hope they do ship from Ontario in Canada, turn around would be really fast for me, prob by the end of the week!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Monk4Life:
No the cupper is what you use to catch the water.
[Nexus 4 General] Clyzm:
Nah I would just swap one with my Gnex. No one would know the difference until they flipped the phone over.
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
You probably wouldn't be the first lol