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[Nexus 4 General] vincy24:
+1

Google is going to ensure no one is lonely.

I spoke with their Rep on customer care and she said 4 5 weeks.

Ridiculous. I got the device to be added to my cart multiple times with note of 1 or 2 day shipping period.

Because Google F***ed up their online purchase system i have to wait for a month. This was supposed to a gift to wifey on her bday. Looks like it will arrive on mine and A huge fight is on the cards. :crying:

I frankly find it crappy on google's part to say "Shipping Charge $13.99 for 2 day shipping" and but thats after 5 weeks of waiting.

This is extremely misleading.

When I said some poeple go their device in 2 days of ordering and I have to wait 5 weeks inspite of ordering just a few hours apart , is just not acceptable. I got the same customer care crap . We apologize but not much we can do.

I say "Screw you google" Get someone experienced with Retail ECOM knowledge to drive your strategies.

In your current state you are just not competent.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Thanks! I didn't know this...was gonna harass 611. :p
[Nexus 4 General] Arcturus55:
I'm going to UPS them a bloody horse head.
[Nexus 4 General] ravneetg:
ahh, thanks, didn't know that you can do it yourself online.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Are you sure they'll be able to handle shipping it when small boxes confuse them? :p
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
It's closed, but a few managed to post some "proof" http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2021763

Mods bouncing everything to this thread (with good reason). Unfortunately, this thread is a bit, well, intimidating.

Those of us in the Nov 13 LL2 group would love to see some proof posted here. You know, shine a light.
[Nexus 4 General] Freshly_Snipes:
I've said this like a thousand times but nobody reads anymore lol

Also you can take kitchen scissors and cut the white part around the sim and it'll work. I did that until mine arrived in the mail a few days later.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] lanman2k:
Order of 2, with different shipping estimated times

Order date: Nov 27, 2012 2:05:59 PM PST

Shipping Status	Quantity	Item	Price

Estimated Ship:

1-2 weeks	2	Nexus 4 (16GB)	$349.00

Shipping:	$13.99

Tax:	$34.90

Total:	$746.8

-----------------------------

So last night I sent an email to the Google Play Support Email Ad asking about a shipping estimate and got this reply today.

"Thank you for contacting Google Play Support. Your first device will ship out within 1-2 weeks of your order date of November 27. Your second device will ship out within 4-5 weeks of your order date of November 29.

If you have any further questions, feel free to respond directly to this email."

So I ordered both at the same time, yet one gets pushed into the 4-5 weeks!

Anyone else ordered 2 in the 1-2 weeks estimate batch?
[Nexus 4 General] xur17:
That's weird. They seem to be indicating that they were purchased on different dates (one on the 27th, and one on the 29th). I ordered two also, but I haven't heard anything yet, or received any shipping notifications yet.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Yeah, there's a lot of repetition in this thread for various reasons, but oh well, gives us something to do. ;) And yeah, other than the nano-SIMs (and maybe even those), the contacts are the same size, it's just the plastic size that's different, so if you're good with scissors (not me) you can make one manually. If you're not up for that, it sounds like carriers will usually cut your SIM for you, or you could buy a SIM cutter. But it sounds like adapters can get stuck in some devices, so be wary if you need to swap your micro-SIM back into a standard (mini) SIM device.

Personally, my existing SIM is old and could stand an update anyway, so grabbing a fresh one helps me be lazy and have better network support. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] lanman2k:
Yeah, it's odd because they were both purchased at the same time. I finally mashed PROCEED for 10 minutes and ordered two, got the confirmation email and then left thinking that I was finally over with it. I only ordered 2 because two weeks would be in time for Xmas, but now this puts a damper in at least one of those being a Xmas gift.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Used tampons? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa buddy!
[Nexus 4 General] ravneetg:
LOL I ordered mine (8Gb) 2 hours before you (Nov 27, 2:07 PM CST) and my estimated date from Google is Jan 2. :)
[Nexus 4 General] lanman2k:
What the?! Are they using some kinda random number picker to decide who gets theirs shipped when? I was wondering if it had something to do with location and username seniority, but now I have no clue what could be the method to that madness.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Pretty much seems random, yeah. UPS is handling fulfillment, and it's almost like whenever Google accepts an order, it goes into UPS's pile for fulfillment whenever it works best for them to send out (based on whatever fulfillment magic they run).
[Nexus 4 General] Suprasb:
Received tracking information for my second device that I ordered on the 27th, yay! Still no information on the first one I ordered though, on the 13th. At least one of them is on the way!

Not sure which shipping speed they chose though, isn't there a way to check that from the numbers / letters in the tracking number?
[Nexus 4 General] lanman2k:
Were you ever charged for the first one Suprasb?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Right there...the system is BROKE! :|
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
That's insane, specifically since I would imagine it's the same Google account and payment method in wallet?
[Nexus 4 General] Arcturus55:
ahaha thats hilarious, I should of ordered on the 27th, probably would be getting my N4 earlier............
[Nexus 4 General] Suprasb:
Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. The charges were pending on the first one after order, then dropped off a few days later. No BO email, no shipping email. That first order is still in LL2. It's almost like it got lost or something.

EDIT: And yes, same wallet account and same debit card.

I ordered that second one on the 27th just to make sure I got a device sooner or later (In-case something was wrong with the first one), and it looks like I made a good decision!
[Nexus 4 General] feelfreetoblameme:
Thanks for this info. I was a bit confused last night with T-Mobile's setup but in the end figured it out okay, I think. I had a MicroSIM from T-Mobile ordered and ready for when the N4 arrived yesterday but I was switching over from Verizon (my contract ended in August) to T-Mobile and porting my number. I did the whole process online and a few hours after I did it, I got a text saying welcome to T-Mobile. Although voice calling and text seemed to work fine, my data did not. I rebooted the phone and then the data started to work. This morning I got a series of texts from T-Mobile stating that my number port was successful and letting me know the balance of my T-Mobile Monthly4G prepaid account. Everything seems to be working fine so far, and yes, good luck to everyone!
[Nexus 4 General] movielover76:
November 27th order

After much frustration I got a an order through on the 27th, said 1 - 2 week wait at the time of ordering.

Got confirmation email an hour later.

Got shipment notification and tracking code this morning.

I guess I'm a lucky one.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Congrats :D :thumbup:

Sent From My Buttery Smooth LG Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] diablonyc2:
I am getting this issue with my GNex on 4.2 and 4.2.1 -- When this happens (data drops off) check your APNs in the setting. If it is BLANK and rebooting brings them back it is an issue a lot of people have been seeing (google it). Not sure what the solution is.
[Nexus 4 General] ketjr81:
It should be 2 day shipping by UPS, or at least that's what I remember seeing when checking out. It was the only option for me.
[Nexus 4 General] diabolicalangle:
What you guys are forgetting is that the orders have not "shipped"for the new orders. The eventual shipping labels have just been applied. I haven't seen one person who got a tracking number report that the package has shipped.
[Nexus 4 General] CTMeow:
I've been patient but at this point all I want is my N4 :(
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
The dimensions of the OG Note are bigger and wider then GN2 and you claim is easier to handle? And you have small hands. ..:confused::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] Semitope:
The email actually says it could be up to 24 hours before the tracking number returns any information. I've had the same result with shipments before IIRC. Other shipping companies just have a blank tracking page when its in the early stages.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
This will be something I bring up when I call CSR next.
[Nexus 4 General] ketonkss4:
You have my Trident. Shall we bathe in the blood of our enemies.
[Nexus 4 General] diablonyc2:
Hey all in the LL 2 Pitch Fork Committee. I sent Thomas.Clark's Google Doc spreadsheet out to get our info together for the call. Check your PMs and forward to others not on list (as I can only send to 5). Bear, check you PM.

If your call works Bear...I'll send ya an honorary CI Polar bear patch! :)
[Nexus 4 General] FatPigs:
UPS' tracking is accurate but their tracking numbers usually don't update for up to 24 hours (assuming it was shipped this morning, probably not until later tonight or tomorrow morning). At the very least, it's 2-day shipping so Tuesday is the latest it'll arrive but most likely monday.
[Nexus 4 General] thos25:
Well, finally received my N4. (Yesterday actually).

It is a great phone so far. It is a bit lighter than I was expecting, but still very nice.

See you guys & gals in the other threads soon.
[Nexus 4 General] housry23:
I'm going to try this one more time. I remember in this thread someone posted a link to a bumper case that was not the Google one. There is nothing in the accessories threads and I'm having no luck with the search function in this thread. I remember clicking on the link but didn't want to order because I needed to sell my gs3 first. Anyone that remembers the link or happened to bookmark it I would be forever grateful if you were kind enough to share. You can PM me so no further clogging of the thread happens. Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
for kicks

I called Play Support at lunch because I had nothing else to do.

CSR: I see you've been escalated to shipping 4 times. Let me get my supervisor.

Supervisor: I see you've been escalated to shipping 4 times. Please hold while I call shipping.

Me: Nom nom nom.

Supervisor: Thanks for holding. Your order has been back-ordered. I'm sending you an email that says your order is back ordered and will be shipped within 3 weeks of Nov 15.

-----

The conversation went on for a bit, me more in shock than anything. I asked why new orders are being shipped while mine is apparently back-ordered. He said that shouldn't be happening, but doesn't know why. I held while he talked to shipping again. They didn't have an answer, he relayed this lack of an answer to me.

I contemplated getting into my proposed demands for making me whole, but was feeling pretty shell-shocked and defeated. Figured it would be better to wait and go back with friends.

I hung up, defeated, again.
[Nexus 4 General] CTMeow:
Bear, aren't you an LL3? everyone else on the list for the info is LL2.
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
They should have made the phone 3mm thicker and doubled the battery size. I'm burning through the battery like nobody's business although much of the issue is actually that it is so badly calibrated to the meter. It seems that the thing can run for almost an hour after it hits 5% and the last time I totally discharged it it took nearly 5 minutes of surfing and playing freecell on full screen brightness to kill it after it hit 1%. It's charging back up again with the phone off (no processor heat to mess up with the charge cycle so it gets a good real charge) and I think I'm done going below 5% from now on unless it's an emergency.

I'm spending way too much time playing with this phone to keep up with this thread.

Have all the folks who ordered on the 13th gotten their phones yet? Any wretched souls still waiting without even a ship notice?

Are any of the second wave phones shipping yet?
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Short form: No. Yes. Yes.
[Nexus 4 General] ketonkss4:
Wow that's just rediculous! I called google wallet earlier today to and the person tried to tell me that since I had been on back order I should expect to wait 4-5 more weeks because the item is in demand... Does Google's depravity know no bounds! Im never doing business with google play again.... after I get my N4
[Nexus 4 General] shallow70:
fwiw - I realize I so far have been one of the lucky ones, but hope this info is helpful to someone.

My 8gig n4 order:

Order date: Nov 13, 2012 12:06:59 PM EST

Email confirm: Nov 13, 2012 12:44:31 PM EST

Email Shipped: Nov 15, 2012 05:08:00 AM EST

Recvd at door: Nov 16, 2012 03:10:00 PM EST

I ordered a 16gig n4 this latest round

Order date: Nov 27, 2012 04:49:50 PM EST

Email confirm: Nov 27, 2012 05:03:51 PM EST (email did state est. 1-2 weeks to ship)

Email Shipped: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:03:42 AM EST (UPS trk #, but not in the UPS system yet)

Recvd at door: Guessing Tuesday, but will see...

I am in South Dayton, Ohio (Centerville) and package came out of Louisville, KY.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Can someone please answer Housry23 question cause I wanna know too. "The aluminum bumper question."

Sent From My Buttery Smooth LG Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
Hmm. Even so, got skipped by Nov 27 orders. And has certainly won me over with his fortitude.

Leave none behind.
[Nexus 4 General] housry23:
Thanks buddy and if someone PM's me, I'll pass along the information to you!
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Yeah I'm LL3, but all LL2's are basically LL3s.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
My battery is wonky too, although it has gotten better since Wednesday. When it's done charging on the lg wireless pad and I turn it on it goes immediately to 97%, put it back on the pad until it reaches 100%, take it off, reboot, back to 97%. It never charges to 100% .I'm going to charge it with the USB charger tonight to see if it's the pad....but I've never had these issues with a new phone. Wednesday when I got it, I wasn't even using it that much and I saw a 1% drop every 5minutes, once it reaches around 60-50% it slowed way down. Not sure if I have bumm device, if it just needs a few good discharges/charges or what.
[Nexus 4 General] ketonkss4:
Surely the forum will rejoice when bear gets his N4

Sent from my imaginary nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'm saying the new gnote, the gnote 2 is easier to handle, not my og.

Maybe I worded it weird, but this is one of my original posts saying even though the gnote 2 is bigger, it's easier to hold. Sorry if I confused you.

And even though the gnote 2 is bigger than the gnote I think it is easier to hold because its a completely different shape than the original... It's skinner, not as boxy as the original.
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
PM your name, order number, and email to anyone on this list, and you will be our hero:

diablonyc2

CTMeow

drak0

parelem

WhenBearsReign

thomas.clark

jefferyrbrown1983

shallow will surely deliver.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
That is the wrong kit. That is a regular sim. You need to order the kit for the Micro SIM. Here is the link:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Micro-SIM-Card-Activation-Kit

---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:54 PM ----------

You can keep the same number. Just go to www.t-mobile.com/sim to change SIM cards. Real simple and it transfers over in minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
I've noticed the 97% thing too. I've never put it back on the charger as I've been taught that beginning a charge cycle when a battery is over 90-95% full is really hard on it.

I just think the thing is really miscalibrated and needs a few deep cycles to get it sorted out and perhaps the battery conditioned a bit.

I know the battery manufacturers keep insisting that modern batteries don't have a memory like the older technologies but I feel that is only "mostly right" and they still tend to have the same issues to a lesser degree.

One thing to make sure to do is to charge the battery in a situation where it doesn't heat up too much. Too much heat interferes with the charching cycle and can actually damage the batteries and diminish their service life. The batteries in the new Chevy Volt are actually liquid-cooled to disipate charging heat as well as a super-smart charging circuit.

I fear that LG may have put in a really cheap lower-end battery into this phone to cut a few corners on cost. We may all be replacing them early if that is so. What a PITA it seems to be to carefully peel them and all the glue off the plate they are secured down onto. I'm not looking forward to that regardles of how inexpensive replacement batteries are.

My hope is that someone comes out with a really slick battery case that only ads about 5mm to the thickness of the phone and can double or more the battery capacity of the internal cell.

It'd be cool if it also had a built-in micro-SD card reader aand the existing micro usb connector on the bottom of the phone just plugged into the case and connected to the battery and the miniSD card at the same time as well as a new charge port and a new set of wires for maintain wireless charging capability. I'm dreaming though. I'm not even sure the N4's micro-usb can do host mode. But it would be nice to have an extended battery in the case and new wires at the back so wireless charging isn't lost.
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Bravo.

FTFY

I'd personally lead with #2 at the top of my lungs. Well, technically I'd lead with cannon fire, then #2 at the top of my lungs.

Finally the appropriate response.

All ****ing noobies must ****ing die.

Lawl, jaykay!

:cyclops: I even posted a link to the search results for this thread and "microsim". It's only two pages and has a **** ton of info.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Lithium batteries aren't supposed to charge to 100%. Something to do with safety for overcharging.

Also, you are supposed to condition the batteries. Charge it up, and let it go till the phone shuts off on its own from no juice. Do this once more. Than do it once every few months. Some little kids will come on here saying this doesn't need to be done, but it does. It extends the battery life in the long run, and it helps you extend the battery output on a given day. Before listening to the nay-sayers, just try it. It works.
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
:laugh: You said hard on.

Also... Thanks for the battery info. I agree with your assessment of manufacturers statements on battery memory vs. that being only mostly right.
[Nexus 4 General] trell959:
Wtf. I'm still not able to track my package :confused:

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Would be much appreciated same with me if I find them another way I will pm you first.

Sent From My Buttery Smooth LG Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Now see, I've read that "bump charging" is good to do once a month, which is what I'm trying to do to calibrate it. There is a lengthy thread around here some where about bump charging...I do it with all my phones and I can't complain about any of my other batteries, not even the gnex when I had it. I did get the power skin for my sensation that even though it doubled my battery life, was God awful looking and a brick! If they came out with one for the N4 I wouldn't even use it. I think our battery just needs to "learn" to work with the OS...or so I've been told :)

---------- Post added at 04:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

That's exactly what I'm in the middle of doing, I said that a few pages beck, that I'm in the middle of conditioning it, tonight is the second full discharge. Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] Qbancelli:
+1

Just got this one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A81H176/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

And I love it!
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
I'm sorry. Like you once said, sometimes this thread goes so fast, it's hard to keep up with all the posts LOL
[Nexus 4 General] grubbster:
I got my shipping email this morning from my 27th order (16gb) and just got notice from MyUPS so it has been scanned. Strange thing is the UPS email says it is to be delivered TODAY! Would be nice but I can't imagine that will happen.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Oh, no apologies needed my buddy :)
[Nexus 4 General] snowglyder:
Anyone able to walk into T-Mo and get them to give you a Micro SIM for free? Not that I'm upset with $1.07 for ordering online, but it'd get here faster just to walk in store.

My buddy was able to get one for free at ATT.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Now let me just remind the thread, and you too newbies....hamster needs a bumper. A new bumper, not your germ filled contaminated bumper....$50 and a Beantown surprise. Now andale...find hamster a bumper!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Some have gotten for free, others got quoted $20 (despite the $10 list price online). Varies, but if you haven't ordered already, it's worth dropping by to see what you could get.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
It varies by store. Around the 17th when the first Nexus orders were being delivered the local store here was charging $20 per sim. I have also heard $10 and sometimes that are free. It seems as thought the stores were trying to make some extra profit from the new Nexus owners. I called T-Mobile and they sent me one for free.

Haha ... looks like idale just beat me to it.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I did...and I bought 2 online for $2.10 shipped.

---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:21 PM ----------

I'll mail you one of mine if you feel like waiting a couple of days for it to get there if they are giving you a hard time...but you can buy one online on Tmobile for .99 cents, limit of two, free shipping.
[Nexus 4 General] ATnTdude:
Your subjective, uninformed opinon does not trump science. Lithium batteries do not have memory. You cannot condition them. To minimize wear, you WANT to keep it topped off. The phone is smart enough to keep you from damaging the battery when you plug it in, regardless of the output voltage (what you see as battery percent). Calibration has nothing to do with the battery itself, it's about the Android OS correctly reading the voltage curve of the battery. You do not want to deep cycle any lithium battery, ever. The phone won't let you, unless you really keep at it, at which point you will have permanently damaged the battery.
[Nexus 4 General] jvanlew:
Yeah I've never had to pay for a sim with AT&T. I guess that's ONE good thing about being with them. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
I ordered that, the idiots sent me an iphone 5 case, and won't respond to me. They are idiots.

Thankfully I should have my bumper tomorrow :)
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Nope.

But you should search this thread, just in case.

EDIT: Yes you can, the point was search. Sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet.
[Nexus 4 General] walloftext:
Just got my phone and wow, I am glad I waited and did not get an S3.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Damn! That's the one I was gonna order! Grrrr!
[Nexus 4 General] parelem:
yes, got one free from tmo
[Nexus 4 General] thomas.clark:
All amazing noobies must choking die?

Oddly specific, and grammatically questionable, but seems legit.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I have extra micro sims that I can send to a couple of people who are getting a hard time at Tmobile. But they are online right now for .99 cents, limit of two, free shipping. If you don't mind waiting a couple of days for it to reach you, I'm more than happy to send you one. I have 3 extras.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Actually I went in yesterday and they said I could get a free one, but couldn't because I have a loaner phone that uses standard.
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Did this at Wallyworld on my Sensation, and was free...he even swapped my contacts over from the larger SIM.