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[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
I'm not going to say too much about this other than we are entitled. We're entitled to receive our phone in the order it was placed. They had two weeks to verify account issues, instead they sat on their hands.

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My guess is sometime in the next two to three weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yes I had to just shut up cause I don't want release the caged bull as I think you put it in a earlier post.
[Nexus 4 General] BumbleG:
The tracking number comes when the phone is actually shipped, they don't make one weeks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Welcome home brother. We missed you.
[Nexus 4 General] ak700:
8GB Nexus 4 sold out after showing 9-10 weeks shipping time
[Nexus 4 General] derPianist:
where ist that picture showing the 32gb lte nexus 4?

i cant find it.

strange.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
QFT

This guy knows what's up. Google oversold, put us on backorder, screwed up the payment, tried to tell us it was our fault and here we are with nothing to show but our aggravation. It's like they're trying to see just how perfect an example they can set of "This is what you should not do."
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yea I saw that's its crazy how many people want this phone. I knew us die hards on xda would be drooling over this phone but after the media tore this phone apart for lack of lte and such I figured it would hurt sales. On a side note my Chi-Town Bears are in a zone. Bear down Chicago Bears. Well at least football is going my way. Cheers all
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
You're aware it is a fake right? Now that it has been floating around, I'm sure it's causing some confusion.
[Nexus 4 General] derPianist:
Why did he fake it? WTF?

But, i cant find it anymore?

I need to see it once again.
[Nexus 4 General] MrKaon:
You right my friend, they struggling, I will not pay a penny over google price :p
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Maybe it wasn;t fake...

It's in this thread. Just read through all 30,000 posts.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
So none of us have heard back from the CSR we had a conference call with who said he would personally assure we get answers. Am I shocked? Not really, just some more false hope from CS.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
where can we find those calls? you guys wanted to record it right ? Just curious how it went.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
The recording actually didn't go through for whatever reason. Kind of sucks because there were some pretty hysterical moments.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Darnit' please record the next time, i really want also to hear those convo's :p
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Of course, but I don't think I could be nearly as amusing as I was that night because I'm running out of material with these people. I'm getting stale.
[Nexus 4 General] CTMeow:
Nothing on my end. How's everyone else's situation? I haven't been able to get on the thread too often the last day or so.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Its not that big of a deal though but you guys would have laughed so hard. But I'll post any emails I get from this guy. If you guys read Thomas's summary of the call that's what's important. The call was Bear and Thomas asking every question and interrogating all the answers out of him that we discussed on this thread and then me putting him back in his place when needed. We made sure to bring up everything and all issues that have been posted and pass along all the emails and names we had of people that contacted us directly to do so. I did like the floor manager though and I really hope he does what he promised he did listen to all 2 hours of us but I could tell he felt helpless at times and its sad that Google set it up this way cause he couldn't do anything but pass our info along and hopefully help figure out what's happened to all of us limboers.
[Nexus 4 General] cchap07:
This is all ridiculous. Honestly if you don't get your phone in the 3 week window then they should either heavily discount it or give it to you free outright. I ordered a second phone on the 27th and will be getting it before your launch day order, that is unacceptable. Hang in there and all of you people still in limbo are better men than I am, I would be flipping out by now.

In other news I caught up again with this crazy thread.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Here is the summary of what we learned in the conference call again above me quoted for those of you that may have missed it. Read it its good info.

Sent From My Buttery Smooth LG Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Falzar:
Well they told you the estimated shipping date. How can any of us get mad when they properly informed us.
[Nexus 4 General] redstealth:
I placed an order for a 16gb on the 29th and was quoted a 6-7 weeks shipping time. Barely 2 days after placing my order I realized I could not be patient enough to wait nearly 2 months for my nexus 4, so yesterday I canceled my order and picked up an off contract Note 2. I do not regret my decision at all but I did have to pay a s*** load more for this beast.

For all of you guys in limbo and those who have not even received the phone who ordered on launch, I say props and best of luck to you guys and hope all of you receive your phones soon! I feel really bad for you guys as I have had similar experience with Dell, but that's a different story.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
You know I've never used xda on my laptop before except to have set up my account. I never had seen that under bears name you could access the overview of the call sorry for reposting it. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Gaurav.Stallion:
Any of you "4-5 weeks" guys get further info?
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Yeah all the tapatalk based apps hide the Sig unless you make a point to look at a profile. It's a blessing and a curse.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yea I just saw that. Blessing and a curse very true but on a high note the web site is awesome. I have been using the app the whole time.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
if you're 4-5 weeks don't expect shipping info until the third week of Dec. at the earliest.
[Nexus 4 General] arizonamman:
Great! eBay does part of what Google evidently could not or would not, do; limit 2 per address OR at least, send email to people who already HAVE wallet accounts granting us a 1 day advance sale (seems to work well for large retailers) due the the fact that we "are good customers," instead of scalpers.

:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] phositadc:
Doesn't this thread prove that we are all rabid android fanboys? Worse than iSheep, even. If any other company treated its customers as HORRIBLY as Google has on both the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7, we would curse them and never buy another product from them.

But with Google, we accept it, some even defend it, and then when our products finally arrive, they have a huge likelihood of imperfection. Nexus 7 with screen lift issues primarily, but many others as well. Nexus 4 with battery, thermal throttling, and ear piece buzzing issues. But we nevertheless ignore the issues, praise Google for making a "great" product, and we do it all again when the next Nexus is released.

Are we all crazy? The way Google yanks us around is borderline criminal, but we take it with a smile and ask for another.

Wtf?

Btw, and there is no criticism of others here... I'm as guilty as anybody else.

At some point we have to put our money where our mouth is, or else Google will just forever get away with sh#tty product releases and products riddled with minor defects.

-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
[Nexus 4 General] mrhaddan:
Yes, yes and exactly.
[Nexus 4 General] Rspeters:
Very good points, I agree completely. Unfortunately, there's not many options so sometimes we have to pick our poison.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] arizonamman:
phositadc, sounds to me just like any other corporation. Got to concentrate on high sales and getting those bonuses. to hell with the customers.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Yeah, I have been thinking about that too. I once asked a friend why he got a Lumia 920 (Windows Phone sucks ass). He said he didn't care. Consumers don't give a crap about OS, just functionality. When you start caring about the OS, then you become a fanboy as defined by these "consumers."
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
Not many options? Are you blind?
[Nexus 4 General] phositadc:
I agree. If I were bear or one of the others from November 13, I would have given Google the middle finger and bought an iPhone 5 about a week ago. Some of you are far more forgiving than I could ever be.

Let's be honest, we all love android, but most of us could get by with a jail broken iPhone if we had to. Or at least we could get by with an optimus G or a droid DNA

-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
[Nexus 4 General] Rspeters:
Apple, Android, or Windows? That's not many to me.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
This should be front page so everyone sees what a joke the whole process is.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Where are you getting the huge likelihood of imperfection from? The few on xda vocal about it? Nothing is ever perfect. There are a ton of people that canceled orders. I still love Android and I like what the nexus program stands for so I will keep pulling for them to fix these ordering and commerce issues.

Let's be realistic here. Many got their devices within 5 days. Many of those who did not got an email, depressing as it is, saying within 3 weeks, which is Dec 6th and is still in the future. Many of those who got the backorder email got theirs last week. Unfortunately some of those people have not yet received their product which sucks, I hope Google can make good on this. Especially since some who ordered on the 27th are getting shipment.

Is this a reason to wholesale boycott them? Not in my eyes, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to do their own speaking with their wallet (no pun intended).
[Nexus 4 General] android88:
I ordered a Nexus 4 16GB on Nov. 27 and it said it would ship in 4-5 weeks. I have received a confirmation email so my order did go through. That's all I got though. I'm guessing that because Google releases batches once every week and the 4-5 week orders were the ones ordered after the 1-2 week orders, that the 4-5 week orders will ship this Tuesday or Wednesday. The 1-2 week orders have probably already shipped.
[Nexus 4 General] Rspeters:
Wasn't there a 2-3 week set of orders as well?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
As far as operating systems, yes 3 major players as you stated. .But as far as devices there's alot of options;););)
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Yeah, I am in the 2-3 week crowd for my other 16G N4.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
If I was a betting man I would bet against you. I think you will be waiting much longer than this Tue or wed. But what do I know.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Even Apple releases imperfect products. Even the iPhone has had a flaw or two when released. Although buying an iphone on launch is probably much smoother than buying a Nexus on launch since Apple is much more experienced in that aspect.
[Nexus 4 General] android88:
I didn't see it. It could be that I missed it.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
The thing is that there is no other phone at this quality at this price. I love the pure Android experience and the best part yet is that this device is unlocked a little more than price I paid for a carrier subsidized phone almost two years ago. Am I sick of getting jerked around? You're goddamn right. Am I ready to give up? Not even close.
[Nexus 4 General] android88:
I can hope :)
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
There's plenty of options. iOS devices, countless Android devices from Samsung, HTC etc... Some decent looking windows phone devices from Nokia.. Walk into any store they are everywhere.

Top-shelf high spec unlocked stock android devices that are well priced? No, not much options there. :)
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
you did miss it. I am in the 2-3 week crowd for the 16 gig. You won't be seeing shipping confirmation for a while with 4-5 week time frame.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
My point was even if your thesis is correct you forgot the 2-3 weekers so if your thesis is correct it will be mid Dec before you get it.
[Nexus 4 General] android88:
OK, thanks for letting me know. There's still a slight chance...
[Nexus 4 General] swedrows:
i am also in the 2-3 week order crowd for the 16gb version. when i ordered it said 2-3 weeks, and that lasted probably another 30 minutes before it changed to 4-5 weeks....the 8gb version was already at 5-6 weeks when i ordered the 16gb version. i am not expecting anything emails from google until closer to the end of the 3rd week based on how "smoothly" things went with the first batch
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Tegrazone is working on my phone...I wonder why
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Looks like mods cleaned up which was a good call. Now, back to the task at hand. Has anyone in LL3 been calling CS? I haven't called since the conference call due to each new agent you speak with transfers your ticket to them and I want to keep Aaron so he is accountable.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
That's very strange. I thought those type of games shouldn't work on our device?
[Nexus 4 General] Sully6789:
I'm actually really impressed with the Lumia 920. My wife might get it for her upgrade in January. If it turns out to be a great phone, and I STILL don't have my N4, I might jump ship. Estimated shipping for me isn't until Jan 2nd. If I don't have it by January 5th, I'm cancelling and going with the Lumia. Or the S4. Whichever.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
S4 looks like its gonna be Beast. I got to play with a 920 and it is really nice I'm not gonna lie but windows still hasn't quite tickled me the way android does. But I really understand why it would intrigue you can it did make my ears pirk up when I played with it. I support you in waiting for the N4 I think you will have it before the 4th and be very happy with it. Its Fast that's my favorite part about it. Either way all three great phones its nice to have options out there that are so high end.
[Nexus 4 General] AshtonTS:
my tracking on UPS's website still says "A UPS shipping label has been created. Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status--including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated." but i got my shipping confirmation on thursday... Should I be worried, or are they just behind for the holidays?

Also, will I need a signature upon delivery?
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
no sig
[Nexus 4 General] CTMeow:
I was in contact with Johnney, a specialist, last week. He told me the order was finally processed properly and I should expect notification Monday and my device Tuesday. I will be holding him accountable if that fails to be true, and I'll let you guys know.
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
In the same boat as you. I've been constantly checking and it hasn't changed since the 29th. From what I've heard, UPS got the mass shipment the night of the 29th and is in the process of processing them (pun intended) but they don't work on the weekends which is why it hasn't changed. I'm hoping it will be here Monday, but expecting Tuesday-Wednesday for it to arrive at my doorstep. Also, you don't need to sign from what I've heard
[Nexus 4 General] anting17:
At November 27, I ordered two Nexus 4 16gb. Playstore was overloaded, so when my order came through I realized that the shipping time had changed from 1-2 weeks to like 4-5 weeks. This is a big problem for me, because I’m traveling to Sweden soon and will not be back until mid January.

As soon as I realized this, I tried to cancel my order. This didn't seem to work do after the first try I did it again.

I later received two emails that says that cacellation can't be done.

In Wallet I just see: Your order has been sent to Google Inc.

How can i cancel my order for a refund?

Please help! :)
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Tell me where you live and give me the tracking # when it ships. I will take care of it all for you while you are away.
[Nexus 4 General] rock7632:
yes be worried. Mine has been saying that since Tuesday, still the same 5 days later
[Nexus 4 General] anting17:
How...? ;)

Please help me with this!
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Call customer service ask for a floor manager and tell them you want to cancel. Or wait it out maybe they show up faster and if not find a friend or family member you can trust give them the tracking number when you receive it and they can be there to give your babies a foster home till you get back.
[Nexus 4 General] rock7632:
And CWebb thanks btw for posting about that packagemapping site. When I checked there it at least shows that my phone is in Louisville, KY in billing information received status since the 27th so at least there's a little more info there than on the UPS site
[Nexus 4 General] MidtownHD:
are you in nyc?
[Nexus 4 General] qortuba:
anyone who ordered Nexus 4 (16gb) and got 2-3 weeks got their tracking number ?

I got my confirmation number but still no tracking number.
[Nexus 4 General] anting17:
No..Miami! :)

Anyone knows what's going to happen if im just not home? Will that be a "refuse of delivery"?

Thx everyone for the answers so far. I really want this order cancelled though!
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
They will be delivered you don't have to sign for them. But do you want too leave them at your door till you get home. Maybe u can call ups from over seas when you get the tracking and have them hold it for you and u can pick it up from the ups store or something. I'm not sure how long you will be gone or how long they will hold it
[Nexus 4 General] Freshly_Snipes:
Nope. They'll leave it at the door. Gotta call UPS.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
With a 4-5 week delivery estimate I think you have plenty of time to get it canceled through Google support. Call them again and tell them you are leaving the county and must cancel.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
That means the same exact thing. Billing information is received when a shipping label is created, and the return address on the shipping label (Which is UPS-SCS anyways) is Louisville KY. packagemapping does not magically give you more information.
[Nexus 4 General] .A.J.:
No signature required, from what I've read.

Also, I'm close by so you can PM me your address & the delivery date & I'll hold it for you if you don't have a trustworthy neighbor or family nearby.

I'm waiting on two devices for my brother and me (27 th, separate orders, 2-3 week wait per confirmation emails).
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
if you want to refuse delivery you have to put a sign on your door saying you want to refuse. You have to include the tracking number on the sign.
[Nexus 4 General] anting17:
Thanks man, i will let you know if thats necessary!

Great input by everyone so far, thank you so much. Keep posting if you got anything useful!
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
No. Not all the 1-2 weekers have even gotten tracking number yet. If you're expecting a tracking number I wouldn't expect it to happen till thursday or Friday at the earliest.
[Nexus 4 General] anting17:
Yeah...that's not so easy from Stockholm though :(
[Nexus 4 General] doublem75:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
any truth on the rumors the white nexus 4 will hit shelves around december 13? is that still UK only and if so who is importing?
[Nexus 4 General] .A.J.:
No problem. As long as it's not too far out of my way & I have time, I wouldn't mind helping you out as your last resort.

Hopefully, they'll arrive before you leave or UPS can hold it for you.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
That's about what I heard I just never got a concrete date but I did hear that it was mid December.
[Nexus 4 General] cchap07:
You should be able to cancel but if not sign up for UPS my choice. You can set vacation days and they will hold your packages for you.

Also for those second rounders that got a shipping email Friday. I got an email from UPS my choice that my package would arrive tomorrow. My tracking number still has the yellow box of doom.

Ps. I don't work for UPS even though it sounds like it. Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
For like 5 bucks, you can have UPS hold the package until you return

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/value_added/hold_pickup.html

So if you receive a tracking number while oversees you can call UPS or initiate an online chat with them.
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
Thanks for the update! I was debating signing up for UPS My Choice, but $40 was a bit steep for something I'd only use about once a month
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
it's free. The extra 40 dollars is for premium services.
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
I'm back

well after two days of ****ing with the phone i realized that my 16gb n4 is only equiped with 8gb total storage
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
I seem to remember seeing someone else getting shortchanged with an 8GB N4 earlier, too. Of course, sadly I doubt any of us can be too surprised given how everything else has gone, but... hopefully the RMA process goes smoother than everything else up until now. :(
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Hell no wow that's messed up. RMA that bit*h
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
Can anyone with an 8g verify what their storage shows?
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Definitely seems like 8GB.. Here's an example of a 16GB..
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
I've seen the 16. Who has the 8
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
did your box have 16 gig written on it?
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
Sure does
[Nexus 4 General] Cwebb03:
I have the free one, but with the $40 one you get to see a 2 hour delivery window
[Nexus 4 General] trell959:
The 8gb has around 5gb of usable space.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Yes

And I can't believe I had 5.5G worth of crap already on my phone.

Good luck with RMA. seems you have rooted the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Its an 8gb
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:


Why did my image come out so small I hope you can read it.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I would look in to your rom being the issue.
[Nexus 4 General] mrfish123:
Been dipping in and out of this thread where i can as it moves so fast! Any news on a UK re-stock date chaps?
[Nexus 4 General] francobarber:
11/13 13:08EST LL3 with "billing" issue here.

Something has broken in the great google logjam.

They finally managed to put an authorization hold on my credit card,

some time Sunday evening.

My case has been referred to various specialists more than once since Wednesday night, but I never got any information back from any of them, so I don't know if one of them fixed something or not.

I did make a change Saturday night: based on a tip from someone on this thread I completely deleted and then re-added my credit card from/to Google Wallet.

I have no idea if this action is what helped, if a specialist intervened, or if the problem took care of itself merely on a retry.

Franco
[Nexus 4 General] the_r2d2:
LOL
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Congratulations Franco! Edit: and good luck!
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
I'm not seeing a charge and seeing that you and I are in almost the same situation, I wouldn't say that the charge is for the phone but Google Wallet verifying the new card. Is the charge for the amount of the phone or $1? I really hope that's some good news coming your way, I might have to attempt the deleting the card trick as well.
[Nexus 4 General] PAulyhoffman:
that occurred to me but it has the EXACT storage as another 8GB phone and other users on AOKP with 16 show 12.92
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
The freaking awesome. Keep us up to date with it when you get a chance. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] francobarber:
I got both, a $1 authorization just as soon as I put the (same) card back in, and the full 350 + tax + shipping much later (Sunday evening.)

Franco
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Bear you should do this maybe it forces them to rerun your card when you reenter it into the system. I don't think its gonna do anything bad.