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[Nexus 4 General] ninjames:
Off topic: Anybody know why this thread is auto-refreshing for me every half second or so every now and then? I'll load the page, and then it will just loop, loading and loading and loading, and I have to hit stop to actually read a post.
[Nexus 4 General] hotwire:
No, but to make it up to you the are giving you Google maps for free.
[Nexus 4 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Lol, the question mark indicates a question but on another note... did you just wake up? This thread has been nothing but mentions of a midnight release and time zone calculations for the past like 20 pages lol :p
[Nexus 4 General] savetherocks:
Wow, thanks! I have it set to refresh every five seconds and notify me when "COMING SOON" is no longer on the page. Good stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] Nayners:
I don't see where to input a 'Add to Cart' term. Could you give more specifics? Thanks for the tip.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Yeah, the same has been happening to me since yesterday. It's really annoying.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Mine has been doing the same thing all day. Not sure what it is. Must be something with xda I would assume
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
When I play multiplayer war games it's usually Battlefield :) Although I usually play the campaign mode.

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click the gear, enable the page monitoring then save and go back to the main auto refresh menu and it shall be there
[Nexus 4 General] FatalityBoyZahy:
Who's down to get a game of Battlefield going on Xbox LIVE to let the fly by!

My Gamertag is FatalityBoyZahy :D
[Nexus 4 General] Willz:
You get a banner with the first batch.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Yeah at this point about half way through the 3 weeks, it seems like most of us are in it for the long haul.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
It'll be "within one and a half weeks" since that's where we are in the three-week wait. ;) But I'm hoping too that there's something a little more solid by then, and that it'll be something like two weeks of the three to get the stock in and a week to allow for getting all the stock shipped out.

Of course every region is waiting, so who knows what's really up with stock. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I guarantee were going to get the same "within 3 weeks" response. They won't even bother changing it to "within 1-2 weeks".

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Some people have already been getting "within 2 weeks". Just depends on when the update on the form response goes out to the CSRs. Normally I'd expect a "within 2 weeks" until it's been another full week, but I could see them anticipating the flood of calls coming Monday and updating early.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
wait so you haven't gotten the nexus 10 yet?
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Actually I got the response that they would get the shipment next week or the week after that. Who knows :)
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Well that's just about as vague as 1 to 2 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] soulz:
Mines being RMA'ed :( hope you guys have better luck!
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
At least you got one.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Yeah I've learnt that from the CSR:s lol

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
So I'm reading the comments on this and apparently it's not for use in the bedroom, it beeps for everything, and randomly, for no rhyme or reason....I'll end up throwing it out the friggin window. Someone even gives instructions on how to clip the wire to make it stop beeping.
[Nexus 4 General] dmt4595:
I've been flipping through the thread and apparently the rumor is that they will start shipping tomorrow. Is there any real basis to this rumor or is it just based on wishful thinking?

Also, has anybody else's play store date updated to the 25th?
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Let the rumor floodgates open.......
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
That's pretty bad if you ask me. Even if they got shipment as early as Monday, that'd still take another few days to get through UPS then another few days for them to ship them out.

Nice, actually looks real.
[Nexus 4 General] moosery:
I did that, and I dont regret it. The note 2 has a lot going for it, even with the massive price difference.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Google-...0979603390?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item19d6e65bbe

WOW look at this seller! he's upped the price to 1750 since there's only two left!
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Entirely speculation, guessing. impatience, wishing, hoping, desperation ...

No my Play Store date is still 19th. That means your order was touched or processed in some way
[Nexus 4 General] emuneee:
*Looks in task bar* I would change the page title first... :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
The Monday rumor is based on the fact that there was a ton of activity last Monday (perhaps indicating that shipments are received by Google on Monday). Mine didn't change to the 25th, but if it starts changing for a bunch of people, it could be a good sign that they're getting ready for an incoming shipment.

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club

"It's not drinking alone if it's with people on an internet forum"

Pending Device:

LG Nexus 4 16GB Limbo Level 3
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
Oh. Yeah he did miss one little detail at the bottom.
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Someone divined it using chicken entrails and norse runestones.

There's a bit of wishful thinking mixed in too.
[Nexus 4 General] scidon37:
Stop trolling...:D Were the inconsistencies supposed to be that obvious?

Sent from Limbo Level 3 - 11:53:48 am
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
So in others words ... the same way Google processed the original orders :p
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Judging by what happened to me, change of date is not a good thing. Might mean you get it later.

Just speculating here..but its good that the play store is updating. This means its still alive

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] SBGS-FTW:
Not sure which to perceive...

mine shows "Complete" under Orders and Settings on my Play Store page.

But in Google Wallet it shows it as "Pending".

Were entering Week 3 of the BO timeline (which I received), so it'll be interesting how everything plays out for consumers that haven't gotten any information yet.
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Me: I was wondering when will my N4 ship?

Google: "Your Nexus 4 should ship a week after next Tuesday"
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
You spoke recently with the CSR? That's not good at all :(

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Thought the order processing was handled by a blind duck pecking at coloured cards.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
It always says pending under google wallet if the order has not shipped regardless of what the orders and settings page says.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Off topic question. Why is the xda developers app lagging so much when scrolling. I just downloaded it to my nexus 7.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Guys.... read what this person is telling people about his phones!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Google-...0926359922?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2577f56172
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
I just spoke to a representative regarding my order and they said that they are getting a batch in tomorrow and it will be overnight shipped to people that have placed orders..
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
looks like hes got 5 in BO.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
So maybe Google does get shipments on Mondays!

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Get tapatalk, it's better.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
yeah right! really?:D
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
WTH?! He's waiting for a shipment? This pisses me off

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
If they don't ship tomorrow, I'll kill you.

Just sayin

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
I didn't wait on hold for 45 minutes just to troll XDA.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
You can count on me as an alibi

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I now think they do get shipments on Mondays! Its coming it's coming! Let's message him and see if he has any info!

But nobody mention we're waiting, act as a real customer.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
I agree, if I don't get an email tomorrow with a tracking number, you and I are going to have some serious issues.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'll help you bury the body.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
I don't know which one is more reliable.

One makes me super excited and the other makes me sad.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I'm calling right now to see if they say the same thing.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Lol they won't

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I just messaged the eBay guy.... Let's see what info he holds. Told him I'll need it by Thursday and will he have it by then.
[Nexus 4 General] slowpc:
I second tapatalk . The xda app kept crashing on me.
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
well i guess ill buy the flowers then.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
I will help, I've got my pitchfork pretty sharp over the weekend.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
"We're currently experiencing very high call volume. For faster answers please visit play dot google dot com forward slash support. Otherwise, please hold for the next available agent."
[Nexus 4 General] blazerxzero:
I just got off the phone with them. I was told within 2 weeks.....
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Well could be plausible about Monday shipments but if they have themselves 3 weeks to get these out you would have to think this is a small batch. Even if they never planned for the phone to be such a big hit, you have to think they have a regular shipping schedule for inventory and all. That's the past that makes me mad. There's no way that you launch a product and then not know exactly when more product will come in. Google knows but I guess that information is proprietary.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Why would that seller be telling people he's getting the phones Tuesday? I don't think he can do that, he must know for sure they'll be in. His buyers would go crazy if they paid and he kept delaying shipments... and PayPal wouldn't be happy, nor eBay.
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
They gave themself 3 weeks so that way there wouldn't be any complaints until week 3 day 2. It isn't going to take that long and I don't know how big the batch for tomorrow is but the representative said it will be shipped tomorrow overnight.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
They get the phone Monday. Takes five business days to process your one little phone and then two days to ship. There's seven business days there.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
They're trying to get these out as fast as they get them. I'm sure it won't take five business days to process. One at most. Also they're overnighting these things.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I hope you're being sarcastic because it only takes 2 days to process.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
As always, we will know by around 11pm tomorrow night. I'm trying not to keep my hopes up to high, and even if there's no phones on Monday, should be some the following Monday... That's the end of the window right? December by then.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
They made sure to give themselves extra time in case something went wrong. They wouldn't cut everything that close to the wire there is no reason to.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Dont try to give urself hope.. I think thats just a guy who wants to see money.. He is giving people hope without knowing that maybe there wont be a batch on monday.. Otherwise he wont be selling those phones, people dont want to wait 3 weeks like us, so he's lying.

Well see it all tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] mrhaddan:
Here is a rule of thumb, that we have all learned from the thousands of posts on this thread:

Don't trust the customer service reps. That simple.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Alexander.... you do know that if you're messing with us you'll have to change your user name? Because we will make your xda life miserable. Best believe.

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He can't do that.... People will open papal claims for his non shipment.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
claim will only work within 4 weeks.. There are 2 weeks or 1 week left, so they will get their phone but not next tuesday, (or maybe they will, i dont know) lets stay sceptic :D
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
maybe he is a Google employee.

i mean the eBay guy.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
All the eBay seller did was make an estimate. This estimate has a high chance of holding true because of how close it is to the 3 week estimate. If he doesn't get them by then, all he has to do is cancel the orders.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
You never know. Maybe the fufillment center was filling orders all weekend and will ship tomorrow? Remember, UPS-SCS is a 24/7 operation. Just because they don;t deliver on weekends doesn't mean they aren't processing items over the weekend.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
conspiracy theory - google employee or a friend/relative of a google employee with insider information.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
That's Samsung mate, never seen Google doing that sort of things :D

Well, they dont communicate at all, thats a fact :D we can call that silent/ignore theory
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Estimate? He clearly stated Tuesday.
[Nexus 4 General] mengwu:
Probably just someone trolling to get us riled up.

I think all those post should be banned. Only post allowed that have relevant information with proof. A good example would be a shipping UPS notice for LL3 people, or google official press release regarding timelines of release.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
even a Google employee left the N4 in a bar.

After this limbo fiasco I do not trust Google anymore.

It's just business for them, they don't give a sh*t about it.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
He made an estimate and then stated it as true on the page. It's not like he's going to get sued for that. All he has to do is cancel the orders. He may get some negative feedback but oh well end of story.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
What I'm saying, as a ebayer seller myself, is that when you give a window for handling, which he has, the 27th, and you don't follow through, you're in trouble.... buyer can cancel with no penalty.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
If you plan on selling on eBay, then it makes sense not to screw yourself, he would be screwing himself by doing that. And for what?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Processing? Order has processed weeks ago! If the units are ready for the box it shouldn't take more than a day max. Every replacement I've ever gotten took less than 24 hours fully to ship out.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
but he'll get more buyers if one cancels :(
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
I read it as "next Tuesday" meaning, the Tuesday after "this Tuesday" which would make it December 4th.

Regardless, he's not going to have any issues. He will know if they have been shipped as early as the day before, so if he knows they won't be there in time, then he can simply cancel the buyer's orders. I don't see how that's "trouble".
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
That's how every company works mate, they want to earn money.. And marketing is something to begin with, Apple does that with suing everyones ass. And create billboards without "Snapdragon S4 processor" but they use "Fastest device ever". And it works.. People actuallly wants to buy that phone without knowing what that device can do, or works.

Creating rumors, and making people crazy is also marketing, psychology.

Ah, i see.. He could be right. But still, for some reason i dont trust people who sells things trough Ebay and stuff, no offense.. Is that guy a trusted seller ?
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Never mind.... You're not getting what I'm saying. That's cool.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
yeah but losing phones and suing people is expected from Apple.

But what Google is doing by not issuing an official statement on the shipping fiasco is crap, even Apple accepted that there maps were crap.

Marketing is one thing and customer satisfaction and support is another and from where I see Apple is best it at.
[Nexus 4 General] Alexander DeLarge:
Seriously? How the **** is anyone supposed to get proof about anything when every single representative and supervisor says something different?

Also good luck getting either of those things, some of us haven't even received a confirmation email, let alone a back order email, press release or tracking number.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
I got what you were saying , what I meant was that there is no dearth of buyers for the N4 as of now on ebay so even if one buyer cancels the guy should have no issues.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
Yes but with that comes the premium price.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Oh good lord, I'm not saying he's to be believed....I just think either he doesn't realize the consequences if he states a date and doesn't deliver or he does in fact know something. I messaged him. We'll see :)
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
That make sense, i get you now :angel:
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
It useless fighting with children using their parents' credit card lol

Take a look at the revisions on his ebay page. He originally offered free shipiing, then changed it to $9.99 FedEx Ground. Cheap bastard couldnt even cover the shipping costs.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...trksid=p2047675.l2569&rt=nc&item=160926359922
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'm not about to sit here and explain eBay and PayPal rules for sellers. He has down the 27th. That's the last I'm going to talk about it.
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
means if Google priced the n4 at $600 you would have not bought it, I would considering I got my Gnex for $650.

Anyways, see you people later , lets go Packers ...
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
If you only believe...
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
Can you state the consequences? All I see is negative feedback.

He'll simply cancel their orders then relist them to sell when he actually does get the devices. Simple as that.
[Nexus 4 General] mengwu:
With enough negative feedback, who is going to trust him with regards to delivery of the product on time or the quality of the product? Seller rating are very important for ebay, unless you sell literary thousands of product and have that many positive feedback.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
No, what I'm saying is Apple is not just selling a product. They're selling an experience. Google is simply selling a product here. If Google sold the exact same phone for $600 I would expect better customer service, free shipping, and other extras. If it was selling for $600 by the way I would not buy it, I would buy a Droid DNA.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Thank you!
[Nexus 4 General] gl_ix:
Oh you too? So I'm not the only one left here who never received even the original confirmation e-mail from the 13th let alone anything else.
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
yup, I have bad luck with the nexus, it had a hairline cracked close to the camera so I am it RMA limbo :silly: but I am using 1 atm so not a big problem. Hope you guys will get some news tomorrow :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
He has it delivered by 29th, sending out 27th.
[Nexus 4 General] pshanks20:
Hi. LL3 here that's been lurking this thread almost the whole time. Anyway, I remembered a guy on the android central forum over a week ago claiming he expected ours to ship out tomorrow. He claims he's an engineer at Google. His username is Ziptied. I'm just seeing all this talk on here now about shipping tomorrow and the ebay posting, and remembered him saying that.

I tried to post a link but it won't let me. Its the 'New Nexus 4 purchase: Anyone get a shipping notification or tracking number?' thread on Android Central page 81.

..and on a side note. This will probably be my only post here. That whole 'are you human' captcha plus having to paste text in a box to do anything is already driving me crazy. Later on...
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
He has plenty of positive feedback. Regardless, statistically he has little risk in this. If he did mean he is shipping this Tuesday, then he either will

1) get the phones and make a large profit or

2) not get shipping notification on Monday, then can close the sale and cancel all orders he has. Since he has 0 right now, I doubt he'll get that many by tomorrow. Besides, he has a max of 5 available so AT MAX 5 negative feedback is not going to kill him (he has 500+ positive feedback).

3) gets the phones a day or two late, may have some cancellations but some may still be okay with getting the phone (perhaps he can offer a discount) so he can still flip some profit and minimize negative feedback.

Remember, the risk is much lower than the potential benefit in this situation.

Also, yes I am aware of how eBay works. There are more experienced sellers than you might think.
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
Wow same people here as this morning. Good evening y'all.

So, I think the Google shipments for the N4 and the entire ship were taken by pirates who are funneling them by speed boat to ebay. That or, the entire shipping container (yes a single container) got sucked into some Ingress portal. Last we heard from UPS guy and Google guy, there isn't much hope except "within 3 weeks".:fingers-crossed:

Here's to tomorrow!
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
You mean you haven't gotten a replacement yet? Are they even delaying RMA ?
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Okay, ive found that guy ZIPTIED.. Finally freakin' answerrs !

http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...ng-notification-tracking-number-82-print.html
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
We will see..
[Nexus 4 General] mengwu:
You have to keep this in mind though. There is a huge difference between 100% positive feedback rating and 99.5%. If I was trying to buy a product on ebay, I go with the 100%, unless the 99.5% is selling it at a decent discount.

That's the price you pay for having negative feedback...discounts on future product just to compete with other 100% positive rating seller. Unless you only plan on selling nexus 4 for the near future and nothing else, then by all means, get the negative ratings. If he is experienced seller, he would not risk and chance and risk having his rating to go from 100% to 99%.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
Interesting, wonder if what he says hold water. I do believe he is a Google employee though.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Or, we want to believe he is one :D
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
It's already 98.5% or something. Max 5 feedback (unlikely), but he'd go down to about 97% at the most (yes I'm aware that's not that great). These would profit him more than most things would. Risk is still lower than the benefit.

Yeah but that was posted last week. I can't be confident in that at this point. He hasn't posted anything new regarding it.
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
I wonder if Google has ZIPTIED at the moment ZIPTIED because Google as a company doesn't allow this kind of engagement in forums other than Google Groups. I love how he brags about being an Engineer and not a CSR as well. Good stuff on that thread.
[Nexus 4 General] aphlipot:
True that could be too. Without actually hearing him say the words I cannot tell. But I would like to believe he is a Google employee
[Nexus 4 General] mengwu:
I don't think this is legit.

If he is google employee, he is under Google NDA to not disclose confidential information like this. By leaking information such as shipping date, he risk his job. It's not like every google employee has access to shipping information either, if he does have access to that information, he can be tracked down very fast since only small set # of employees will have access to that information.
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
Nope I didn't , its pending on playstore and the CSR guys doesn't know any **** so lol