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[Galaxy S III General] Geordie Lad:
Why because you can't handle constructive criticism against something you said?

Now it is a plainly obvious fact that Google make Nexus restricted to get people using more of their services, and if you looking to insult me don't make yourself look like a fool with 1 word insults and try to explain what your problem is.
[Galaxy S III General] Idan73:
Lolz tell that to nexus one ones having to run os from external memory cause Google put half of internal memory compared to desire. Or nexus s having plastic screen compared to sgs1 gorilla at the time, scratches galore. Or galaxy nexus owners that have to use volume ++ app to max speaker that even then with distortion, reaches volume level 6 of my sgs2. Or 90 percent of nexus 7 owners having screen separate from housing with lotta creaking every time the device heats up.

Every nexus device released so far has had substandard hardware when compared to their manufacturers flagship counterpart. That is why when I read LG Optimus G reviews, I get scared buahahaha.

Testing JKay alpha on GT-I9300
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
..........and don't forget the glass back! Nice one Google/LG........let's copy Apple, let's try and make a cheap/sub standard device that has a .....cough....cough....premium feel.
[Galaxy S III General] tonyt3rry:
do you think its worth me selling my galaxy s3 for 280-300?
[Galaxy S III General] sidthegreatest:
If that is USD, HELL NO !!! U can easily sell it for way more !!
[Galaxy S III General] tonyt3rry:
Sorry I meant GBP
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
Try with 350-400 buddy. Just don't screw the market prices already.

In your situation I would stay with sgs3 and replace it with sgs4
[Galaxy S III General] kaynpayn:
Not even then. They're easily sold for a lot more here in portugal. How fast you can sell it, however, it's a diferent matter, we are facing an economical crisis here after all. Not a lot of random people with that kind of money ready to be wasted on a phone :P

As for the N4, i'll hold a bit. It's not even available around here (hell, they just made available for selling the N7 tablet here last week or something) and i'm rather sceptical about LG. Even if this is a nexus phone, the brand has always had a lot of weight in the final product (N1 was metal like the rest of HTCs, N2 and GN were made of plastic like the samsung counterparts, not that's a bad thing and i'm pretty sure this one will also have some LG trade. And i could never find a single LG i'd have something good to say about. So, i'm not so keen to replace the S3 just yet. If given some time and things keep looking bright for the N4 AND a good oportunity (aka not losing money in the process) comes up, i may change it.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
Wouldn't it just be smarter to wait for the Galaxy S4, which is most likely going to sport a quad core variant of the SoC used in the Nexus 10? :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] :
Your still stuck with ****wiz and no fully working cm roms and late updates so to me no but each to their own. I'm jumping ship to the Nexus 4, also can make a profit on selling my S3.
[Galaxy S III General] Jack Barrett:
Im tired to see memory discussions. I dont ****in care about sd cards. U must be super kiddos to install all the biggest games and play em all day and night. Are u jokin me? Get a PC and play when u want. 16 Gb is pretty decent for normal users. Im buying it because im sure there wont be scrolling lags in menus/contacts etc. And the #1 reason is pure google android.
[Galaxy S III General] sathkartha:
Profit is the excess over cost and therefore I can't see your profit here. You intend to buy something less expensive and certainly less endowed and thereby generating cash on hand which you would bust on a few beers. When sanity returns and the dawn breaks, you only have a lesser phone and no cash! See the point?
[Galaxy S III General] sidthegreatest:
The N4 is definitely not a less endowed phone. Sure, it has it's faults such as no microSD slot, but it's not a step down for sure..
[Galaxy S III General] :
Seeming the N4 is more powerful in most areas I fail to see your point.
[Galaxy S III General] icebox4u:
So if it isn't a step down, and it really isn't a step up by any significant margin.. And the build quality of Samsung is proven to be higher (this is easily identified by your own research, and Google is not a research source) in build quality overall.. Why would anyone choose an LG phone?

"I want a pure Android experience!"

- Got that with ROM's. Obviously didn't bother you when you bought your S3.

"I don't use more than 16gb of storage, I never have!"

- That may be true today, or next week, but every day apps and ppl find convenience in the mobile capability of their phones. If data is what you or an app/game needs, or you want to localize your music collection in the future because your unlimited data plan is throttling you, or your on a flight and want to watch more than one HD movie.. Guess what? Your comparably powered LG phone is going to hold you back.

Removable batteries:

I was an Apple user for years, I liked the iPhone. What I didn't like was depending on a charger (and that little thing called TIME) to recharge my device. Know what my alternatives were? None. I wasn't walking around with an external battery and a cable stuck out of my pocket like a robot. Know what option you have with an S3?

Replaceable batteries you can swap out and keep rolling. That feature coupled with an external battery charger means your device will NEVER have to sit within range of a CORD ever again. A lot of you won't need that, some might like it, whatever the case may be, it's freedom.

I'll genuinely laugh in the face of anyone I meet personally who trades in an S3 for a N4. I'm all for the latest and keyword here: greatest.

The latter of which, the LG N4 is not.
[Galaxy S III General] wileykat:
Either way, it's definitely a matter of compromise on one feature or another.

I'll wait to see what the early user reviews are saying before I decide, but lack of sd is gona hurt bad!
[Galaxy S III General] sathkartha:
Illusion! It is not more powerful even in one area really. Do you think LG is doing it for charity, at that low price? Samsung is leap years ahead as a technology company. Anyway, to each his own son(yes, I am nearing 60).
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
You surprise me Jack, I thought you were a porn addict, storage must be good if that is the case ;)

And calling someone a kid because they want more storage?!

How about music/video/work files/etc etc.....or does the phone only have limited functions, as previously mentioned? :thumbup::cool:
[Galaxy S III General] :
Read up in to why LG/Google can sell it so cheap, nothing to do with cheap parts. The S3 has a crap screen compared to the N4, slower processor, less ram (I9300 model) lesser GPU. People are only hating on the Nexus 4 because its made by LG and the price automatically means its made cheaply. Google are not stupid, they choose LG because they simply offered better than what Samsung came up with, they've already stated this. Its basically a Optimus G, and if you have held one of them its by no means cheap and the screen is simply gorgeous (yes way better than the S3's). The storage issue will effect some but its ok for me with unlimited data so Google Music and Dropbox I use for files and music. I love my S3 but I'm not blinded by the Samsung logo on the back. Like we both have said, each to their own.
[Galaxy S III General] icebox4u:
I think your talking about nickel-and-dime performance differences. Huge shortfalls are lack of storage. End of story. But that will be viewed differently by everyone. That's why there isn't one device that everyone is completely satisfied with. If that were the case, we'd be using Apple devices lol.

I do love my movie collection and music locally on my device, to hell with depending on a wireless signal. That and the removable battery/external charger just give me features that a slightly faster cpu/gpu and a brighter screen can't.. Convenience.
[Galaxy S III General] btemtd:
Enough said right der :cool:
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I for one love to have all my music and movies and whatnot smacked on my 64GB sdcard. I always have them even if I so live in a bunker for a week. I've never liked cloud services, because you're always dependent of a signal which you may not always have, and a 64GB sdcard is only a one time payment instead of shelling out 100's of bucks for unlimited data.
[Galaxy S III General] Jack Barrett:
I'm far from being porn addict. Plus we have sites online.

Now about video - are you gonna upload all your HD videos to the phone? Don't you have tablet/laptop?

Music... I will put the best songs I play at the moment + I will use google music at some point.

Work files? Like .doc? Really?

If you want the most superior game then download and play it for some time, uninstall and add new one. (although with 16 gb [13 usable] you will be able to download alot more)

So if storage is a deal breaker for you and many others - then don't buy it. Stick with crappy CM10 on S3 and let's hope some code will be released eventually for the devs.

Cheers ;)

P.S. Just sold my S3

P.S 2: 32 GB version will be released until february.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Great news Jack ;)
[Galaxy S III General] irzero:
I wouldnt now buy an S3 over a Nexus 4 but i wouldnt sell a S3 to buy a Nexus 4.

You cant justify the price of an S3 over a Nexus 4 now. But its not better so i wouldnt sell my S3
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
I'm pretty sure that 2GB still isn't needed. It's because of companies like Samsung or HTC that we think more is needed. They stick as much bloat as they can inside our phones.
[Galaxy S III General] luizffgarcia:
"Why would anyone choose an LG phone? "

- Well, my S3 broke twice and did it without falling to the ground or anything, first time the camera stopped working, second time the volume button.

""I want a pure Android experience!"

- Got that with ROM's. Obviously didn't bother you when you bought your S3."

- You mean the ones without Exynos sources, the ones that are bugged and can't use project butter implementations??? No thanks...

About storage and battery life, it depends on your use, nothing to discuss here.

"I'll genuinely laugh in the face of anyone I meet personally who trades in an S3 for a N4. I'm all for the latest and keyword here: greatest. "

- Really?!?!?! I mean... Really?!?!?!? Ok, i was going to comment this but i threw up a little inside my mouth when i read this again, so... Really!?!?!!?!
[Galaxy S III General] icebox4u:
Lol, thanks for clearing up how you will deal with LG's shortfalls.

CM10 on the S3 is fine for me and many thousands of others, or they'd use factory Samsung ROM's and forums like these wouldn't exist.

Enjoy your Nexus.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S III General] got-petrol:
2 gig is needed it make the phone run smoother and faster that's why I have performance problems with my galaxy s3
[Galaxy S III General] icebox4u:
You should have that checked out dude, comments in a forum are child's play compared to the real world. Do you throw up when someone asks you what you want with your burger and fries? How about when your car payment is due?

Regurgitation can lead to things like weight loss and other diseases.

And yeah, really.
[Galaxy S III General] XDA mark:
People take this stuff to serious.

The Nexus 4 has a slightly smaller, better, sharper screen. It's on par with the One X Screen.

The Nexus 4 has the S4 Pro SoC, which has 4 krait cores. Krait cores 28nm vs S3 (32nm). They consume les power while delivering at least as good performance, if not better. The Optimus G with the same S4 pro destoryed the S3 in benchmarks.

The Nexus 4 runs stock Android 4.2. Which IMO is better then Android 4.1.1 with Touchwiz (especially the touchwiz part)

The Neuxs 4 has a slightly nicer design IMO. No logo's on the front (clean, black front), no capacitve buttons (love onscreen buttons), a more futuristic design. The back of the N4 is 10x nicer as the S3 (the S3's back is one of the weak parts of its design). Finally seeing something different in the Android world. The people that said "they copied apple": yes, and Apple makes beautiful products. As far as I know this is the first Android device with a glass back (after the optimus G), which is original in my book. It's different from al the other Android phone's.

edit: some words about the Optimus G build quality/feeling and what the S4 pro SoC is capable of:

"The Optimus G felt expensive and premium in a manner not quite matched by the devices currently inhabiting my pockets, Samsung’s Galaxy Note II and Motorola’s Droid RAZR M.

The love affair didn’t end at the hardware; the unit’s software, though an LG skin running atop yesterday’s Android 4.0.4, delivered easily the most responsive experience I’ve ever encountered on an Android device. (Yes, that’s including stock Jelly Bean on the Nexus 7.) The skin offered enhancements both useful and aesthetic, with special delights like the “dew drop” lock screen tucked away out of sight but wonderful once discovered. Even enhancements that would have heavily taxed lesser hardware, like running the elaborate “carousel” home screen transition effect atop a live wallpaper, couldn’t make the Optimus G skip a beat. The phone was an incredible speedster." -Pocketnow

edit2: "This is, easily, the most beautiful Android phone ever made." Can't wait to get the #Nexus4 :D" - Codeworkx (twitter)

The S3 has microsdcard support, TouchWiz, not a glass back but plastic back. Also larger internal storage models (32GB). So if you love storage on your phone just buy or stay with you S3. End of discussion. If you have neither and want to buy a phone go Nexus for sure. Better and cheaper. Unless, you love storage. It's all about storage :cool: It's not so weird, the S3 is 6 months older then the new Nexus. It's logic it's going to be better in most things, that's how technology works. It gets better.
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
With bloatwiz yeah. Vanilla android doesn't require 2 GB RAM to run smoothly.
[Galaxy S III General] jjshinobi:
I love SuperNexus running on my I9300 (the International S3, Quad-Core, 1GB), plus I have Paranoid Android dual booted. I can definitely appreciate a hardware accelerated and customized pure AOSP device, and dual boot Paranoid Android. I don't use an SD Card and I live in Puerto Rico where HSPA+ has more coverage in this montaineous area.

The 1GB of ram while having a lot of things going on is a bit too low. I can sell this 16GB with a Zenus luxury case from the UK around $500. It costs $700 off contract here. Sounds good?:good::eek:
[Galaxy S III General] jhericurls:
Yes, I buy the best the market has to offer and don't follow brands.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...e-bar-for-design-materials-and-build-quality/

Even Jonathan Geller of BGR, a well known Apple fan boy said this:

http://bgr.com/2012/11/01/google-nexus-4-first-impressions/
[Galaxy S III General] jetbruceli:
I will get the nexus 4 once they upgrade the memory. 16gb is nothing these days, with no ext sd slot, I will wait!
[Galaxy S III General] Geordie Lad:
People are still talking about wanting a Nexus but waiting for version with a bigger memory but am I really the only one that can see the obvious that Google are deliberately restricting the memory capacity because they want people using Cloud Services so Google can make money in the same way Apple does?

All I'm seeing here is people so determined to have pure Android they ignore all the obvious deficiencies all Nexus devices have in the same way iPhone users ignore all the deficiencies IOS has? I mean yeah Google is a million times more ethical than Apple but Nexus is something that's gradually drifting towards how Apple runs things.
[Galaxy S III General] ChrisHRocks:
One Samsung galaxy s3 for sale. That all I've got to say!
[Galaxy S III General] irzero:
Nexus stock dialer is crap though

How on earth do you deal with that?
[Galaxy S III General] dazza7111:
exDialer?
[Galaxy S III General] tolis626:
Fact:Nearly every decent new device will be able to get "pure Android" some way,be it CM,AOKP,source-built ROMs etc.People who don't mind rooting and modding their devices probably don't care about "pure Android".

Also fact:There is absolutely no way one can expand the Nexus 4's available memory.Cloud storage is also quasi-useless-ridiculous charges will apply to most people with the amount of managed data.Plus you don't have your stuff everywhere(Let's face it,mobile networks are too far from perfect).Not to mention that even the least tech-savvy users nowadays expect,want and use more than even 32GB,let alone 16GB or 8GB.If you're not going to give us a micro-SD slot,at least make a 64GB version of the phone at a reasonable price!

And...On-screen buttons on phones?Really?I mean,who dafuq came up with that?Dunno about you guys,but I haven't seen anything more stupid for quite a while.I used a Galaxy Nexus for some time and it was too damn annoying.And even if some people really find them better to use than physical buttons,even the screen space that goes to waste is making them counter-productive.I'm at a loss about this one.

I could go on with this but I won't.I thought the people at Google were smart.I was wrong.
[Galaxy S III General] treUse:
As we can clearly see, without proper sources not everything will work flawlessly on aosp-based roms.

Buying a Nexus device will guarantee those sources, on top of an aosp rom.
[Galaxy S III General] tolis626:
Yeah,but without proper hardware,even complete source code is utterly useless.And by hardware,I don't mean the SoC and screen,which I absolutely adore on the N4.Even so though,rumor has it that the GS4 will come with a 5" 1080p screen and an Exynos 5450.If these turn out true,I'll sell my laptop to buy it. :p
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Hah. It's funny how people think custom aosp roms for the Nexus 4 have/will have complete source. They don't because not even qcomm hands out every bit of source.
[Galaxy S III General] SLver:
you mean that, even if is a google device with "the directly google support" and it will be the first recieving updates, that doesn't mean that there will be a 100% funtional MIUI or CM10 because it is in a similar situation as exynox, don't have the source neither?

(but...they have pure android experience anyway =p)
[Galaxy S III General] ca1v:
Sell my s3 for £245 on Mazuma ? Worth it? Doubt it very much! Hopefully cm10 will port 4.2 quickly :)
[Galaxy S III General] MattBooth:
While a quad core Krait would be great as well as the Adreno 320. No SDcard slot is a deal breaker for me. I need it and I don't buy the official Google line over why it's not included.
[Galaxy S III General] jjshinobi:
It cost almost twice of that unlocked.
[Galaxy S III General] Byakuya88:
fore those who understand french read this: http://www.journaldugeek.com/2012/11/02/le-nexus-4-a-549-euros/

the price in Germany/Nethederland/Sweden is 549 euro....

in UK at CarPhoneHouse 485 euros......
[Galaxy S III General] brooon:
Not in Germany, as you can buy it via playstore for 350 bucks ;)
[Galaxy S III General] Byakuya88:
yes you're right.....but outside the playstore it cost more than the price announced by google
[Galaxy S III General] brooon:
Yeah, of course, that´s absolutely correct! Sorry if I missed the discussion, just read your post (and as I don´t know how things are going e.g. in france, I just saw myself "correcting" the "thing" about Germany immediately! :D)

;)
[Galaxy S III General] 101gamzer:
Here i got some lovely piece of initial information about the build quality of the Nexus 4!
[Galaxy S III General] kaiowas82:
Bought my s3 in august for 380 £ from cex UK, sold it today for 350 to one of my staff.... Nexus 4 I'm coming!

Few days ago I was thinking differently.... But 2gb RAM plus the low price had the best on me...

Plus full cyanogen:D
[Galaxy S III General] p4t4h:
Doesn't Optimus G have same innards as Nexus 4 with all the extras (more space, SD card, LTE) and we can expect easier aosp/cm updates for it because of that? Like nexus as and the original galaxy s.

It's way uglier than Nexus 4 though
[Galaxy S III General] sidthegreatest:
Locked bootloader makes all that pointless.
[Galaxy S III General] jhericurls:
If your savvy you could get a new S3 for £320

http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/samsung-galaxy-s3-20-off-working-hmv-1347141
[Galaxy S III General] tridibsahabd:
The Verge review

Here's what the verge has to say about nexus 4:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review
[Galaxy S III General] Theshawty:
Technology is always expensive here in Sweden although I believe it costs more in Apple Maps favorite country Norway.
[Galaxy S III General] Toss3:
What the hell happened? Just read the reviews and the Nexus 4 is, mildly put, a bit of a disappointment. The battery life seems crappy, the browser slow and the whole thing just looks like a mess with no LTE or even exchangeable battery. Something went seriously wrong with the Nexus 4. :confused:
[Galaxy S III General] TheCraig:
Really?
[Galaxy S III General] demlasjr:
One word, two letters: S4

That's nothing better than that for being my next phone. :D

Love my S3
[Galaxy S III General] jonnyaztec:
Pretty lucky for me :D I have my old Sensation XL for all my music ! On my SGS III I have used 3GB mainly down to roms :P I have a 16GB card which i havent touch yet, Im very tempted by the N4, just a few sources have said it does not benchmark as high as the i9300

anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review

I really want to order it on launch, but I just want to hear how people find it overall performance and that glass back :P

Pros for me:

Stock google - fast updates (hopefully)

Excited for wireless charging (gotta buy that "hub" for £60 or what ever google will charge me for.

4.2 - Going to be the first officially supported device will most likely take some time to get it on the i9300

People have said the Dev community is awesome !

Will look good next to my Nexus 7 :P

Cons -

Potentially not being as powerful as the i9300 (halfway house con i guess)

Breaking that glass back, the verge guy already cracked his !

Moving away from sammy alot of the comments have said LG build quality is pretty wank :P

But the price is so nice ! For a device with that spec list and pure google I think i will get one but keep my SGS III for a few weeks after incase i dont like it and just be that bastard that that three phones .... and my contract on my Sensation XL end in a few months so if it does suck ass i can get the HTC butterfly or something else :P
[Galaxy S III General] -A-P-M-:
Its written in N4 forum that those units doesnt have final (fully optimized) software yet. Since N4 has same hardware as Optimus G, you can expect at least similar benchmark results.
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
+1 agree
[Galaxy S III General] -A-P-M-:
According to Verge, battery is "top notch." So this is completly opposite to engadget's conlusion about a battery.

The Verge also wrote about N4:

"It's easily the best Android phone on the market right now, and has some of the most powerful software that's ever been put on a mobile phone"

Source: http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/11/2/3589280/google-nexus-4-review

Also those devices doesnt have final software yet. I cant wait for release:)
[Galaxy S III General] mutaz102:
the problem to me is that the nuxus 4 has no SD Card !!

why google why :(((
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
Well