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[Nexus 4 General] androidi10:
lol
[Nexus 4 General] zigfreid5:
Over 2000 pages of posts and only 32 thanks for the OP... Ungrateful suckers.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I don't think these phones are considered bulk ship items. TVs I would say yes they definitely go in a container. But phones are a 4 x 7" box of hight value. Imagine the quantity/value they could fit in a UPS air freight container.

This is all a pure guess :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] intel8052:
From google's end - possibly they didn't give LG enough notice to actually build enough devices before release? Maybe they just didn't order enough devices?

From LG's end - how many production lines are they running for the N4? How many phones can each production line produce per day? Who do they source the boxes, USB cables, batteries from? It's possible that one of their suppliers for said boxes, USB cables, etc is also backed up and that's preventing LG from shipping devices. LG may have piles of phones ready to go w/o the packaging... we'll never know.

I'd speculate that 2000-3000 devices per day, give or take, would be a plausible production number. I don't know exactly how many people are in google's backorder, but if it's only 10k or so people we may see our backorders filled sooner than later. Esp factor in that LGs factories won't be closing for thanksgiving so maybe once Google/UPS/etc are back to work early next week there will be a large number of devices waiting to get shipped out. Or maybe I'm also being optimistic.

Hey I talked to her this morning! At least she didn't lead me on like that...
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Thanks for the reminder ... been meaning to to that for days ... done
[Nexus 4 General] thecuber:
I made a form to track what time an order was placed and when it was shipped. Basically if you ordered after 16:45 UTC, then you probably won't get it today.

goo [DOT] gl/d42Qt

goo [DOT] gl/19i4S
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
Just got off work with my shipment notice from 9pm last night. Are deliveries expected out today? (Tuesday). It shipped a little after midnight Kentucky their time soooo? This thread jumped 200+ pages since I was last on so sorry if its already been posted
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
guys they started the production before the 13th. I could think that they didn't have so many phones as the demand was...at the launch day. But while you was buying your phones, maybe another stock of phones was arriving into their warehouse in us, and another was just departing.

wait for tonight, maybe you will have good news like happened yesterday :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] jvanassche:
Anything that can be palletized is a bulk ship item. Stack enough small cubes into a bigger cube, stack a bunch of big cubes into a container.
[Nexus 4 General] f1seb:
So with us being on backorder and having to wait a long time to get these phones. Is it safe to say that the Nexus 4 will not be back in stock before 2013? They will miss out a lot of money on holiday sales.....if that's the case.
[Nexus 4 General] androidi10:
It is absolutely not UPS's fault

UPS website is not the one that crashed on the 13th

Google is responsible for all this mess. They should have anticipated the demand, kept their website running for people, shipped the orders on the second day

UPS received the phones yesterday and delivered them today.
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
Unless it got delayed for some reason, as in UPS failed to get it on the plane like they did for some people who were supposed to get it today, then you should have it by end of day.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Agreed. I used the term bulk ship referring to a container on a ship.
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
Not entirely true. Mine is scheduled for tomorrow because of who knows what >_>.
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
Schweet
[Nexus 4 General] deestroi66:
I had spoke to a CSR couple days ago and the 3 week thing is not set in stone but rather a "better safe than sorry" thing. It's not going to be exactly 3 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees3511:
Im pretty sure I read someone had a production date of 7/12. If you think they are cranking them out and we are receiving fresh phones made last week, this week, then you are all wrong. They have probably been making these for a while now, so stock probably should roll in.
[Nexus 4 General] vmherpin:
Update on my order - it has shipped!

Yesterday night, at 7:51PM CMT (Wisconsin), I finally received an email that my order had shipped, with an included tracking number. This morning, my phone was on my doorstep. My phone was shipped Next Day Air, as i believe most others were due to these obvious issues. I am in lecture and have yet to get home to my phone, as my girlfriend answered the door for it. There was no signature required. If you have not received an email about back order, but have received an email confirming your initial purchase, give it more time. I know it's frustrating as I've been losing my mind, but this is what has happened to me now and I'm quite happy.

Have faith, even though Google dropped the ball hardcore.

Purchased: Nexus 4 16GB :good:
[Nexus 4 General] manchoi44:
Doorbell rang at 10am, and lo and behold, a wild nexus 4 appears!!

I was in Limbo 2 (confirmation email and nothing else). Ordered my 16GB N4 at 10:36am CST on 11/13/12. Received no emails until last night, when I received a shipment confirmation from Google at around 10:30pm.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
guys calm down I'm pretty sure we will find out tonight whats going on. If we don't see any shipping information sent today I think its pretty safe to assume that we wont see any at least till next week then.
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
I originally ordered mine at 3:09PM EST but google canceled my order randomly so I had to call and situate it until they said "TOUGH LUCK" and I was lucky enough to post another order at 4:41pm EST

I'm at LVL 3 with confirmation.receipt, BO email, no play store update (still at 13th for last update...)
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
I made another call to Google and was told the same story about if I have received a BO email, I won't get the N4 this week but within 3-4 weeks. Of course, I told her I didn't but a friend of mine did. I also asked if she could see if someone was on back order on her screen, she replied "yes". She told me that my account wasn't and that I should get a shipping email later on today.

Order on the 13th with no changes to my order status and got a BO email.
[Nexus 4 General] biggiephat:
If we don't see anything after tonight they are past their five days so in turn I will demand free stuff
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
All I want to hear from Google is a "If you ordered between X:XX AM and X:XX AM, you should get it X day. If you ordered between....". They can made an entire 3D image of the globe but they can't do math.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
can anyone that has received the phone today see when the production date is ?
[Nexus 4 General] osi13:
I ordered at 11:42 EST and only received the confirmation email. Anyway, I was told by a CSR that I was on back order. I received a tracking number last night, and the package was delivered this morning. There is still hope.
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
Damn thing is still in Ontario, Ca. Hurry and come through LA Mr. UPS man :impatient:
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
It would be so awesome if it shipped tonight and arrived tommorrow like my Nexus10 did. Then I could get it all setup over the holiday.

Hopeful limbo 3
[Nexus 4 General] UCFJake:
Well UPS dropped off. No phones. The BO email remains the true identifier. I accept December as my estimated arrival now. :(

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
no what would have been nice is if they had shipped it last Tuesday and I had received it last Wednesday or Thursday cause that is what real companies do. Google has lost allot of credibility in my eyes. I went from not considering any other platform to seriously looking into other platforms.
[Nexus 4 General] Shadowguy:
Just leaving apple store with my new iphone 5.....im happy now:good::good:
[Nexus 4 General] androidi10:
I cannot understand this

Did not google and lg have months to produce a large number of units of this device

It is a phone for god's sake not bread

If we do not see all orders fulfilled by thanksgiving, google and lg will make a huge mistake losing the holiday and black friday
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
Awe, I wasn't even thinking about it.

Thanks for that <3.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
◉︵◉ why.....
[Nexus 4 General] housry23:
What really has me upset is, originally I had three phone in my car and went to checkout at 11:39am est. The actual processing screen froze on me and it never went through. I left if for about 10 hoping it was going through but it never did. If it would've I more than likely would have my phone by now. Instead I had to sit there and refresh the page over and over until 1:21pm est. and note I'm bo in limbo 3.
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
If the Google Play store opens up again it will be sold out in minutes.

All the scalpers & speculators KNOW that these things are an easy $100+ on CL or Ebay. Does anyone think that the guys with scripts and auto-matic ordering aren't going to snap these up RIGHT away as soon as the google play store opens again? The really good guys have dozens of google accounts set up in advance for this and scripts to do everything from monitoring the "sold out" graphic from the Google Play store to ordering the max 4 phones/account.

The minute these go back up on the Play store they are going to be sold out. The same will happen the next time, and the next time.

Until they have a crapload of them to sell from LG this phone is not going to be available to the general public. I doubt this will happen before Christmas -or before 2013. My gut feeling is that it will be mid-January before they can stay in stock in the Play store for more than an hour or so. If you are FAST you might be able to get one in the first few minutes -but the "average" person won't see one of these Nexus4's for Christmas unless they buy one off of Ebay.
[Nexus 4 General] zigfreid5:
They're here!!!!!!! The UPS truck just pulled up!
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
See you in a few months
[Nexus 4 General] zigfreid5:
Is it wrong to hug a delivery person?
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
I will be doing this as well if I don't get shipping info by the weekend. Or might get 920.
[Nexus 4 General] gary1203:
How reliable is the CSR :/ Iwanttobelieve.jpg
[Nexus 4 General] jlk_250:
My phone just arrived this morning and I was curious why I got no MyChoice update too, since I want that to work for future shipments. I e-chatted with a UPS rep and here's what I found. She said that the reason I got no alert is that the shipper used a handwritten shipping bill, not a computer-generated shipping bill. So MyChoice had nothing to search on.

After the chat session I got a prompt to fill out a survey. I rated the person as doing a good job but didn't give a great review on the whole process and left a clear explanation of why I was asking and how I think MyChoice should be improved. FWIW, anyway.

Now that I think about it, we have two interesting pieces of information. One is that the shipment paperwork for UPS was done by hand. The other is that the CC hasn't yet been billed for people receiving their phones. Both of these are highly unusual IMO. I think their database got corrupted and they were trying to fix it/them before shipping. Push came to shove and they were told to ship product now as long as it can be straightened out afterward. Good call, just in time before getting really bad press, IMO.

BTW, I just got a reply to an email inquiry from Google Play that I made a couple of days ago and got nothing. I guess they were sitting on it until they had good news.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
not to crap on ur hopes but its one thing if a bunch of people get a tracking number that are in the same category as you and you can hope u will get something but the fact that almost nobody with BO email got any tracking info makes it hard to believe any of us will get something.
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
Just thanked OP... how rude of me for taking so long.

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club...

"It's not drinking alone if you are with people on an internet forum"
[Nexus 4 General] AmericanYakuza:
Wait a minute don't they have 2 weeks to ship us our phones. I thought the clock started ticking on the 13th. What is this 3 to 4 week bs? From today?
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
I can not believe people are so impatient that they will buy an iPhone rather than wait a few weeks to get what they really want.
[Nexus 4 General] ntt1409:
delivered. Houston TX
[Nexus 4 General] Geo411m:
What a mistake. The Nexus 4 is a great phone and Android is much better than iOS IMO.
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
Well I don't really want a Nexus 4, I just want a new phone lol, I'm bored with semi working CM10 on my i9300.
[Nexus 4 General] jalshah05:
Little long but please read...

Hi Everyone, I just want to share my experience with you all.

I just got my order shipped last night at 12:03 am for 3 Nexus 4(16 GB) and 3 Bumper Cases. The important part to note is, my order was in limbo from the first day. My order went through on Nov 13, 2012 8:44:21 PST. I got my order confirmation at 12:15 pm PST. After that I never received any type of communication from Google, I called CS for 5 times and got the same reply saying call us back tomorrow if your order does not ship by tonight.

Yesterday after getting tired of waiting for my order, I called the CS and in a firm and calm manner I spoke to them about the way Google has treated this whole situation. I spoke about Apple being able to handle 20 million orders in a weekend, Samsung being able to handle my orders in timely manner and Amazon also being able to do the same. I spoke about the bad PR and all that I could think of in very calm and firm voice. I spoke with the CSR and her superior for about 15 minutes and asked them for just an explanation for this mess. I told them that Google should have known beforehand about the overwhelming orders considering the holiday season and anticipation for this phone and Google should have released an official statement about this situation. I told them that I am heavily invested in play store and supportive of Google from the beginning for Android, and now I feel like I made a mistake. I told them in this age, every small consumer can make their voice heard via blogs, news, Facebook, twitter and many more news outlets all over the world. Considering that any big company (even Google) cannot survive for long with this kind of treatment to their loyal customers over and over again. In this whole conversation I was very respectful to the lady that I spoke with and also to her superior.

One thing to note is, in first 2 minutes the lady I spoke with told me that my order is in back order status and she will be sending me the email about that pretty soon. But after 15 minutes of talk, I got an email saying your order will be shipped within 3-5 business days (which I did not even believe). And then on the same day my order got shipped and also not by 2 days shipping, but overnight shipping. I am going to receive my phone sometime today after it was being shipped last night.

As I write this long story, my shipment has been delivered at my home btw.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
Already had an iphone 5 and have been using android only for the past 3 years or so and honestly it was very hard getting rid of my iphone. The only reason I sold it is cause someone offered me $860 for it. Therefore I'm in the same shoes as you if I don't get any tracking info before Thanksgiving I'll be visiting the apple store.
[Nexus 4 General] dzap:
Out for delivery as of like 30 minutes ago. It's on the wayyyy and should be here within an hour or so. :victory:
[Nexus 4 General] theyownus:
they are rushing them out!

2 16gb ordered 8:35am

nothing except confirmation until shipping notice 11:pm CST last night

Mesquite, TX, United States	11/20/2012	8:06 A.M.	Out For Delivery

DFW Airport, TX, United States	11/20/2012	6:43 A.M.	Departure Scan

11/20/2012	5:53 A.M.	Arrival Scan

Louisville, KY, United States	11/20/2012	4:52 A.M.	Departure Scan

11/20/2012	2:29 A.M.	Origin Scan
[Nexus 4 General] ksocoolwitit:
I'm about to call up some T-Mobile stores to see if they have any left in stock or asked when they'll get a new shipment in
[Nexus 4 General] code65536:
...and it's noon EST. It's been officially one week after the N4 was supposed to go on sale!
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
Noooooooo..... be strong... stay in LL3..... LL3 is fun!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
but only 5 business days :good:
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Sad indeed... to think, only a week ago I was logging onto the Play Store to make a smooth, clean purchase of my Nexus 4 just to see that the notify button is still lit. Ventured over to G+ to see people have been successfully F5'ing to get the cart button, so I joined them FOR AN ENTIRE ****ING HOUR TRYING TO BUY MY PHONE

(╯°益°）╯︵ ┻━┻
[Nexus 4 General] joe_sun:
The Eagle Has LANDED!!

Limbo 1 to Nexus 4 in hand!

This saga in my life has come to and end, good bye :)
[Nexus 4 General] TwinkyOfHope:
Wow, my phone departed KY at 3:50am, arrived at Oakland, CA at 5:21am, arrived here in central CA at 7:59am and is now on the truck for delivery. Very impressive UPS. Would have been nice if Google acted that fast.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
You can't give up now! Stay strong! We're almost there!!!
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
With every email I receive that isn't a shipping notification, a part of me dies a little. :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] jjsoviet:
My Google Mail Checker extension for Chrome regularly mocks me with every new email. :(
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
I almost threw my Nexus S out the car window when I got an email notification while driving and it was from ****ing Twitter.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I was just thinking, what if they didn't ship to us BO people because UPS can only handle so many shipments a day. There has to be a limit on the amount of packages going out in a day and perhaps UPS hit that limit.

Maybe after today's deliveries there will be another wave for Wed deliveries that will include us Limbo lvl 3's and all else who haven't gotten a shipment number yet.

Just maybe. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
lol me too, I just unsubscribed to a bunch of useless emails that herras me cause don't want to be herrased by those.
[Nexus 4 General] wyldtek:
Got mine. It was shipped overnight. UPS just rang the doorbell and left it on my doorstep. Glad I was home. It's beautiful :)

Dallas, TX, United States	11/20/2012	9:52 A.M.	Delivered

11/20/2012	7:55 A.M.	Out For Delivery

11/20/2012	7:10 A.M.	Arrival Scan

DFW Airport, TX, United States	11/20/2012	6:46 A.M.	Departure Scan

11/20/2012	5:53 A.M.	Arrival Scan

Louisville, KY, United States	11/20/2012	4:52 A.M.	Departure Scan

11/20/2012	2:50 A.M.	Origin Scan
[Nexus 4 General] bmwracer0:
seems a bit delusional...Amazon never hits this? or Apple?
[Nexus 4 General] joe_sun:
FWIW the return address listed on the Nexus package is a UPS address in KY... maybe UPS did screw this up.
[Nexus 4 General] boostedfern:
Does Google not reply to emails you send them about your offer because I have sent 3 and nothing back for Like 4 days
[Nexus 4 General] gallitoreds:
Thats not it...UPS handles MILLIONS of packages each day. Thats correct... MILLIONS! theyre out of stock, simple as that! The Google Play Rep that came into the forum yesterday told so, and I beleive him.
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
I may get 16GB now. I realized I need the storage.
[Nexus 4 General] josuetenista:
Maybe they sold out. They are shipping their nexus 4 from singapore. Maybe they didnt expect such a huge demand in Australia
[Nexus 4 General] Lockeskidney:
Florida banner still up
[Nexus 4 General] phoneman09:
10$? That's awesome!
[Nexus 4 General] GrandMstrBud:
Going to be a long day tomorrow if I have to wait until 2am central....
[Nexus 4 General] balto:
Banner gone on both 8 and 16. In Toronto in Rogers cable.
[Nexus 4 General] bluezz:
OMG!

My banner now says "Go to sleep, nerd"!

I shall obey master Google :p
[Nexus 4 General] Apocaliptic:
For me it still shows the banner on both devices.
[Nexus 4 General] anirudh412:
Banners gone for both and back up again. Seems like it was a glitch... Or Google messing with our emotions :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
I do over here in Eastern time in Canada.
[Nexus 4 General] poid:
Just to confuse you guys more, the yellow banner is still up on the Aussie play store for the 8gb N4, even though it is on sale.

So i think Google is having a bit of fun :)
[Nexus 4 General] Droidyou:
If you don't like it just don't read this thread. All this excitment is very funny!
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
Haha, I'll be here withca buddy :)
[Nexus 4 General] ceroglu:
Please stop the banners bs. Just let us know when you see ADD TO CART.
[Nexus 4 General] irishrally:
I'm selling banners on ebay. PM me.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Don't know if this was sent but the bumper is now on the page as well... sure hope it goes live with the device. I'm really itching for some protection and no one has a real case for this yet
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
I can't keep up so many pages lop
[Nexus 4 General] GrandMstrBud:
A lot of caffeine tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
welcome to 1 hour ago.
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
:eek:

Dang.
[Nexus 4 General] Antiflash:
QUESTION: Prices in packing slips?

For the lucky ones receiving their phones today could you please confirm if google includes prices in the packing slips?. That is, if any kind of "invoice" with prices printed is included in the box?

Thanks in advance
[Nexus 4 General] AmericanYakuza:
I sent 2 within 24 hours and no reply. i will start calling them after I get off work.
[Nexus 4 General] raycpe:
ANY LIMBO 3er's been successful in completely canceling your orders? No refund on refusal rubbish?....
[Nexus 4 General] illmatic90:
So we have established that the 3 week timeframe for backorders is more of a "better safe than sorry" estimate, and we should receive phones before three weeks are up?
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
Remember Remember the 13th of November... :(
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
It's not about Amazon or Apple. It's about UPS only being able to deliver xx items in a day.

Plus Apple uses FedEx and UPS both or just FedEx?

Just a thought. Didn't say it was true or anything.
[Nexus 4 General] joe_sun:
No prices listed on my packing slip
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
As nice as this would be, I doubt it's the case. They fulfilled nearly the bare minimum of what they had to fulfill-- the people not on backorder. Now, am I saying there won't be a shipment tonight? No, it's very possible, but the reason for Limbo 1/2 getting theirs first is because they weren't on backorder, plain and simple.

That was NOT a Google Play Rep. You don't come into a forum and make a post on an "official Play" account and tell a select few group of people in a massive thread something that every other consumer would like answers on.
[Nexus 4 General] luxe:
After shipping confirmation my CC pending charge disapeared

Does anybody else noticed same thing? Got the shipping confirmation, the tracking now says out for delivery this morning (Nov 20). Also the Wallet says "Google Inc. charged your VISA for $392.85". When I checked my Visa account it does not show any charge any more. It used to show the pending charges for the phone as well as for a bumper case that is still on preorder -- now nothing. Wonder if they are sending us -- the frustrated ones -- the phone for free :) Pretty sure not but nice thought, right? That way they would shut our mouths up, sealed :) And for sure I would not mind it and will stop wining that instant :) Yes, I am that easy to sell my soul ;)
[Nexus 4 General] vipeezy:
you are correct. Mine shipped last night from Kentucky via next day air. It's on the truck to be delivered today.