yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I think you highly overstate the impact. This is nothing for them, hardly anyone outside XDA is even talking about it.

Be that as it may, i'm going to pull out of my arse some estimation based on what i'm seeing and say:

1. A ton of people go their phone within the 5 business day windiw

2. Nearly all of us that didn't, got a communication about a backorder and it will take up to 3 weeks to get the device. We are most likely getting free shipping, a far outside chance of something more but I doubt it.

3. There may be an edge case of people that have been wronged that didn't get a BO email and didn't get their phone within 5 days for one reason or another, they probably will get free shipping and an apology from a CS for their inconvenience.

The audacity of many of these people to say things like "IT'S ONE DAY LATE WHERE"S MY FREE **** YOU OWE ME BIG" is ridiculous and petty.

Still, rest assured (HAHA), this is not big.
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
Google owes us a statement at the very least. I don't see them trying to start a startup wireless carrier if they can't handle a little demand on their device servers.

...
[Nexus 4 General] stuff4urbrain:
hey guys

short quest

when i order right now a nexus 10 how long is the shipping time in the us to CA atm?

cheers
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Simple solution, stop refreshing - enjoy your day(s)

IT.WILL.COME

sent from under your mother's bed
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
They just need to fix the communication problem. They'll learn at retail eventually. They'll probably have to take a loss on it in the beginning to get it running correctly.

I have no doubt they can build the network successfully it's much much closer to their core competencies.
[Nexus 4 General] danfalcas:
Thats not posible, with what happened the first time, i am seen my computer every 15minutes to check if there are some on stock.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Well, the issue for me is not getting the phone before December 19th. My brother is coming home for christmas to Sweden and the phone will lay outside his house in California until he gets back. AND he will have to ship it to Sweden, which costs alot more than the shipping that is being waived.

So for me, this is a big deal. If possible, please speed up the process Google.

The replies i got from CSR is: next week or the week after.

If someone else ordering after me gets the phone before me, I WILL be upset. So for all the ones telling me to chill or relax it will come:

I CAN´T

You have your phone, I still dont know I will be getting it for Christmas. And I payed money that could have served me for something else.

just my thoughts
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Wait its unlimited HSPA+ for 60?
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Well, the USA

IS

the best country of them all.
[Nexus 4 General] Larswa:
Do you think we get our N4's before the Nexus 5 comes out?
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
You wont, we will..

Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9100 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] FISKER_Q:
Yeah Nexus 5 Backorder will last well into the Nexus 6 release.

(Disregarding that currently the Nexus 4 refers to display size and not just the generation number at the moment)
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Really? For a $27 item? Hope he chokes on his turkey.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-O...426927?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3ccca55c6f
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
T-mo has a new "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" or something plan that's $5 less than the old 5GB plan. The unlimited plan doesn't allow tethering while the limited plans do. I can't talk about the exact price of a single unlimited-everything line since I have a family plan with 1000 minute, no text, and the unlimited data, but the price of the unlimited data portion is either $30/mo (Classic) or $20/mo (Value).
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
LMAO does this idiot really think someone is going to buy it for 150? What a joke.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
And note that he's sold 7 of the 9 he had for that insane price. If people are willing to pay that much, then people will sell for that much.... :eek:

EDIT - never mind, actually checked on the sales, those were "only" $70-100.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I think 12/19 is more than enough time. It should be there way before then.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
5 phones AND 5 bumpers :mad:

That's some crazy profit. Imagine what that guy will make if he sells them all.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Lol ;)

We´ll see...we´ll see :good:

If not...anyone visiting Stockholm during christmas? :D
[Nexus 4 General] machu124:
THIS. I'm not even bummed out about being on backorder anymore (I still love my GNex!) but I am pretty angry about the ridiculous markups for these things on Ebay and Craigslist. Google should have capped orders at 2 per account or something. That would at least make it a bit more inconvenient for scalpers who would then have to monitor multiple accounts to get 10+ Nexus 4s and bumpers and the rest of us who actually WANT to use this phone as our daily driver could have actually got them on time.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I'm 2nd generation. I'm sure I have family there but I have no idea who or where.

My grandparents on my fathers side moved over in 1945 after the war.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
I'm not bummed either. I get to play with my Samsung SGH-a517 flip phone until I get me shiny new Nexus 4! :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
I don't agree with the markups either but if someone wants pay that much for an item that's on them. .And obviously people are paying these ridiculous prices otherwise they wouldn't be listing them so high. .As long as people pay they will sell at that price;););) just saying
[Nexus 4 General] sublimnl:
Happy Thxgiving, fellow LL3'ers. Today I am thankful that Goog released this phone for almost half price - even if we dont have it yet.:good:
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Who are these people paying $70-100... up to 150!! .. For a bumper... I mean one that's already about as high as it should get at $20 on play. People are stupid.
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
Any updates today folks?

Also happy Thanksgiving from the UK!
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
i want nexus 4. Please...let me order one 16gb... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

...maybe just another 8gb for my girlfriend :D
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Yeah he actually had them up for $80 when he had 5 in stock, once they sold 3at that price he jacked the price up. I just don't understand why anyone would pay that amount for a $20, $27 with shipping....I want one but like heck I'll give these rapists anything more than $40! I just don't understand why anyone would want to rape people for a $20 item. I get wanting to make a enough for your ebay fees and PAYPAL fees, but why can't they be happy with a $20 profit? The whole thing is just mind boggling really.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Including discount yes. I'm in the military so that's 15%. Roughly $70 without discount... But this is the value plan. no subsidized phone which is cool for me. I pay $122 a month for two lines including all taxes and fees. Love it :)
[Nexus 4 General] machu124:
haha well you'll only have to suffer for a couple weeks max. If it's any consolation I really miss my old Samsung SCH-u740. Best flip phone I've ever owned!

Unrelated: I'm a BU hockey fan so I hope we can get along... :good: :p

Great point. I guess for people who missed the order window and don't mind paying a premium then it works for them. I think this whole Nexus 4 fiasco (and by extension the Nexus 7 launch) is turning me into a complainer/making me crazy. :silly:

Happy Thanksgiving to all the US LL3ers still around too!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Yeah but the point is not about people buying at these prices, the point is how could anyone sit with themselves when they are tripling prices, its greedy, and greed is one of the deadly sins ;)
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
Thanks!

Today i am thankful for the support and a sense of belonging this community and the people on this thread have extended to me. Thanks all!!
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
All you need to get around tethering block isa different UA string. Tmo tells by what browser you use, that's all. I just use Firefox with theua switcher add on. To get default desktop browser experience, simply change to the Linux chrome 64 bit browser UA string. This is what I do when I need tethering in a pinch.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Here in the UK,

I pay just £12 / $19 a month for 250mins, unlimited texts, unlimited data. :)

SIM only, no contracts.

Muuuhahaha
[Nexus 4 General] gallitoreds:
Well your not going to beleive this... Apparently they did have more stock on hand, but they used it to fulfill Google Employees orders before ours!! Im A LL3 btw....
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
source?
[Nexus 4 General] FISKER_Q:
Evidence?
[Nexus 4 General] gallitoreds:
.......................
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
This is not surprising... And doesn't really bother me. Looks pretty sad when this is your companies product and you aren't even using one. Is the same reason car company execs are given allowances to lease/buy company cars. Could you imagine an apple corporate employee walking around at work with an s3?

What would bother me is fulfilling new orders to the public before us.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
What proof do u got for that? Your friend who works for Google told you right?

Sent from my Gs2 Skyrocket iPhone Killer!!!
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
There's always ways around detection, but T-mo still doesn't "allow" it. Whether you can get away with breaking the rules is a separate issue. ;) Noting the tethering restriction was mainly to explain the pricing difference (why you get unlimited 4G for less than the old 5GB plan).
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
I agree with you100%,but with today's economy people don't give a fuk.. They just trying to make that money. .Whats more crazy, is that people are coughing up the money for these items..I dont blame the seller, I blame the buyers who make it a possibility;););)
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
The earliest we might see movement on these is tomorrow. That's if were lucky. I see no truth in Google already having units and just giving them to employees. Not only is the claim completely unfounded, but since today is thanksgiving, no one would be working UPS Logistics anyways for fulfillment.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
I could see Google employees getting their device orders, but it would be from a separate system and separate stock that they would likely have has in Mountain View (and certain other large regional campuses). So their fulfillment would have nothing to do with non-employees'.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
I love how Google's Slogan is "Don't be evil"

This is quite evil. Not only do you disrespect your customers, treat them like trash, but you don't even have the decency to ship their phones out first nor offer an official statement.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
You're 100% right, I didn't think of it like that....the sellers wouldn't jack the prices if they didn't sell at that price. BUT, just because there are people paying crazy prices doesn't mean you have to list it at crazy prices....I'm sure it's tempting for the sellers, I mean, we all love money, and not everyone thinks about their fellow people, but I for one, couldn't do it, I personally think it's slapping people in the face. But who am I? :)
[Nexus 4 General] FISKER_Q:
Yeah exactly.

But sofar the information we've heard is that Google Employees had to order it themselves like regular people, so it bothers me a bit if they ordered like regular people and got preferential treatment.

Usually such stuff is done internally and is done to not affect general user availability, so hopefully there's no truth to the poster who claimed otherwise.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Love it that this thread keeps moving, limbo3 forever.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro VZW)
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
The minority. People that ordered multiple to sell them don't care about anyone else. The ones that interred to use it but decided to take advantage of market conditions and people's willingness to overspend probably need the money more than the they want the phone. EDIT: Besides.. they have a narrow window of time here to take advantage of this before it's just always IN STOCK and available for $350.

That's why I was saying for many it's the anticipation of getting it that is the thrill, once you've had iit, it starts losing it's thrill and the real world of daily driving it sinks in.

I'm going to guess it's not going to be THAT much better than my GNex, but I wouldn't turn around and sell it for $600-800, and I'm not interested in paying that much either. I'll just pay the extra to Play to not have to renew my contract f or 2 more years. :)
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Omg I can't believe you just said that! This part of the phone ordering process truly is my favorite, not what's going on though, not this back ordered fiasco....the normal process of ordering, getting your confirmation, tracking, then stalking the delivery guy....it's my favorite part next to taking the lid off the box and seeing the phone for the first time. My friends who aren't techie think I'm crazy, that I get this excited over a phone...but hey, some girls like shoes, I like gadgets :)

From what I've read, it's a very substantial upgrade from the gnex. My gnex is getting all crazy on me since 4.2....getting ready to flash Paranoid Android, hopefully that'll help.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Pretty sure its gonna be better than my gnex. Also, I buy the new nexus every year, so some of us don't even care about the price so much.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro VZW)
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I hope it's a noticeable upgrade. Maybe by the time we get it there will be an OTA for some bug fixes.

Have a good Thanksgiving everybody. Time for family, fowl and football.
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
better wait for it to arrive in retail stores...
[Nexus 4 General] lskeys:
Do you know it they are selling on Friday; And what time? I they do I will be there and order on Friday. Then keep the one that comes first, or sell the other one on Ebay.

:good:
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours! Gobble till ya wobble!

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Me too...I have to have the next nexus, no matter what. I love my galaxy phones, and my HTC phones, but there is nothing like a nexus. The only one I wasn't crazy about was the nexus s.

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I'm going to get a T-shirt made, it's going to have the nexus 4 with a Lai around it going under a limbo stick with "Limbogate 2012....we will never forget".
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
GiffGaff?

I left my o2 contract of 6 years for a Nexus4 and GiffGaff! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
I will buy that shirt
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
His name was Robert Paulson!

(Awesome reference :D )
[Nexus 4 General] ZeroSX:
Happy Turkey Day, all my Limbo3 bretheren.
[Nexus 4 General] luke_c94:
Where the hell is that deal?! I pay £12.50 for 100 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited data, would love another 150min!
[Nexus 4 General] DominoHop:
Don't forget the few LL2 stragglers :'(

Happy thanksgiving! Get fat! And hope that we get our phones before the world ends.
[Nexus 4 General] AmericanYakuza:
What was the point of letting someone order 5 or 10 phones in the first place? Google dropped the ball on that one. There should have been a 2 phone limit, that way they could have sold them to people that actually wanted to use them and keep the sharks that were looking to capitalize on the whole fiasco at bay. It pisses me off not knowing when my phone will arrive and there's a bunch of clowns on ebay peddling them for $500+.
[Nexus 4 General] slopokdave:
Not everyone who orders more than 2 had any intention on selling them.... 10 is a bit excessive though, who knows if any orders of that many were placed.
[Nexus 4 General] akhan47:
My thoughts exactly.
[Nexus 4 General] AlphaKoi:
What issues are you having and what ROM/Kernel? and FYI....I get just as excited about tech stuff. I can totally relate
[Nexus 4 General] walloftext:
We have no idea, all of this is from rumour.
[Nexus 4 General] AlphaKoi:
If you do this.....please update with this thread so we can storm the castle if they start shipping newer orders first.

::::sharpening my pitchfork as we speak:::::
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
http://giffgaff.com/index/offer

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As for my Nexus 4 order, it's been 'processing' since I ordered it according to customer service reps.

How can my order process, if you don't even have the phones!

I was also told they are waiting for another shipment, and could take a 'further' 2-3 weeks.

Sorry, but **** YOU Google - its been over a week and you should already have this shipment,

who is delivering these to Google - pigeons?
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Is anybody else ordering tomorrow? Also, what time does the order form open tomorrow?
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
We don't even really know for sure that they'll be taking orders tomorrow. Me, I'll probably just wait it out even if they do open up orders and ship those right away (which I would hope they wouldn't do, but you never know).
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Where does it say that more phones will go on sale tomorrow

Sent from my Gs2 Skyrocket iPhone Killer!!!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
What did I miss? Are they really opening up for orders?? If so, I may place an order to see if I get this one quicker than my back ordered 16gb and just return or sell the which ever comes later. But did they say they were going to open up for black Friday? Or are they just wanting to?

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Lots of "stopped unexpectedly" when in the middle of any task, even after a reboot. I'll turn the gnex (N7 did it too but now after paranoid android it doesn't happen anymore) on and about 10 messages about force closing pops up for different apps. This is on stock by the way.

I think anyone on xda gets excited about this kind of stuff, we are amongst our peeps :)
[Nexus 4 General] MaxCarnage:
This is how terrible rumors start...
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
There's no proof that orders will be taken tomorrow. This is just pure speculation. For someone like me who needs to replace an order this would be great but I have a feeling it won't happen.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
If they do happen to sell more tomorrow, I will order one. Just to see if they ship those first or not. I have the money, and I always like to have a backup phone just in case.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Maybe it'll be back up on Monday since it's Cyber Monday.
[Nexus 4 General] Bishop:
check gsmarena... Carphone Warehouse has the Nexus 4 for sale... ALSO expensive like the assholes of ebay
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I would set 3 alarms for tomorrow. 3am est, 8:30 est and 9 est.

I'd also download that Nexus 4 stock app just in case google decides to pull a fast one and make it go live at like some completely unexpected time.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
This x1000.

What time will the Nexus 4/ Nexus 10 bundle be on sale off contract for $199 tonight?

ERMAGHERD DERRRRRPPPPP.
[Nexus 4 General] TrueBrush:
The first batch is better be good... or else.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Not fast enough.
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
Correct, no white nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] vinnyutd6899:
Right it 3-46 here in the UK and that site notifier app for chrome keeps cuckooing every 4 minutes because google keep removing and then re adding that banner! there doing it on purpose to stop people using apps like that i am sure! have had to turn it off.
[Nexus 4 General] darkamikaze:
Ahh its like the Nexus 7 again. hopefully I'm not stuck with a delayed device because I got the case :|
[Nexus 4 General] Croptop:
Apparently not. :P
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Not really. I'm more excited about the (lack of) banner.
[Nexus 4 General] suprano:
I'm just listening to pandora radio (dubstep) in one tab and refreshing the Google Play Store in the other tab. I'm ordering this thing before i go to bed. I've waited a month for this. lol
[Nexus 4 General] spiderhamster846:
Thank god the population is so small for us Canadians, the nexus 4 probably wont go out of stock for a day XD. So launch is still set for 12 PST not 12 in each zone?
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
Not really...

Sent from my teapot. :3
[Nexus 4 General] Guto ViP:
Well wel... I'm calm down... I will buy my N4 only in December... So i will read some treads and review about the phone before buy it.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
I hope to god its 12est
[Nexus 4 General] irishrally:
Will the bumper cover the chrome?
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
I've waited for more than 7 months for this device!!!
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
The one and only!
[Nexus 4 General] Shftup:
I think it will sell out in Canada....the price is too good.
[Nexus 4 General] Monk4Life:
The new 4.2 update just got sent out to the current Nexus 4's and Nexus 10's according to Engadget.
[Nexus 4 General] jeeholim:
I don't even think it matters, since it probably comes from California anyways. Can anyone weigh in on this?
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
Ever heard of RFD there hoarders lol
[Nexus 4 General] Lance Power:
Population is much smaller in Australia, and that didn't stop it from selling out instantaneously.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Just sign up for whohas.it

They notify you by email once it's back in stock. They have an app as well that notifies you but only for iOS right now. The android version is not available yet.
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Thought about buying from them but find £110 extra a little too much. Shame really, they had stock in my local store when i checked.
[Nexus 4 General] Bishop:
Shame indeed. To think there is a bunch of people that bought the phone the release day like me. LL3 sucks bigtime
[Nexus 4 General] amdhunter:
If it goes in the store again tomorrow I am going to try to get a 16GB version. I only got the 8 because the 16 was impossible to get.
[Nexus 4 General] tulongest:
Sorry to break it to you but they won't be selling tomorrow. They need to serve us LL3 first.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
"Need" and "should" are two totally different words :/
[Nexus 4 General] SunSDK:
I'll also wake up at 3 AM set alarm for 8:30 and 9 and signed up to every possible website that tracks 1 seconds could mean days of delays... Let's see what nexus comes first my BO one or if they go on sale the one that I buy tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] burgershot:
I could see them opening it up for pre-orders with shipping dates out by 3+ weeks
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Man I hope this is true. I´ve heard that it doesnt matter. If this is the case...im really screwed.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
This tells me that there are issues in 4.2 that need to be resolved. Hopefully when 4.2.2 comes out, battery life on this phone will increase to near Optimus G levels. I say near because ICS is a little less battery hungry IMO than JB due to Google Now.
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
I'm going black Friday shopping, so I'll be up to check every 10 minutes. Don't let me down again, Google!

Want to order a Nexus 4, but Google is dumb. Now I have a GoPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Google now can easily be turned off. I always turned it off on my gnex cause I was sick of getting useless traffic eta's
[Nexus 4 General] Orange_furball:
And seriously if someone is going to cancel an 8GB order, don't! I'll take it!

Want to order a Nexus 4, but Google is dumb. Now I have a GoPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] Bishop:
or wait for the white version that is supposed to be coming on december