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[Nexus 4 General] AIovanna:
We the early orderers are and will get the shaft...I haven't heard a peep nor has my account changed in any way...
[Nexus 4 General] MatAuc12:
Assuming similar shipping prices as nexus 7, you will be charged 410$.
[Nexus 4 General] Guster730:
I'm gonna sleep in the basement and use an alarm, my PC's down here anyways
[Nexus 4 General] AndyBurns:
( 24 months x £36) - £279 for 16GB N4 = £585 for them to fund the "free" TV :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
That is not good news at all because the information you are spreading is outdated. He restated that it'll be around 9am german time, which is midnight PST
[Nexus 4 General] Hallucinogen775:
oh boy, just tried to add my work address as delivery address using a fake nexus 7 order only to find out that the store seems to be crapping out already now.... when i click the "continue" button, after having added the nexus7 to the basket, it only show a progress circle spinning... since 5 minutes now!

this is crazy, but i love it! all that hype, talk, generating 50+ pages of thread in one day... ;) and google's servers down? priceless....
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Do you have administrative access to your router? If google blocks you, and you do have access, you should be able to force the router to release and renew you IP address.
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
thats because all those guys which are setting extensions like page monitor to 5 second autorefresh, which is completely over the top :rolleyes:

some people have a static IP, thus your advice won't help those.
[Nexus 4 General] adamski123:
If Google servers crash tommorow I will not be loving it ;)

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sent from either my one x or nexus 7. If anybody is selling or trading a note 2 then pm me :D
[Nexus 4 General] vrooden:
One minute till midnight. Am gonna stay up for the next 2-3 hours to see wether ordering will start 0:00 CET or really 0:00 PST (which will be 9:00 a.m.). God, I'm nervous like a child on christmas *lol*

EDIT: 0:01... cannot order... yet!

EDIT: 0:11... still not able to order... so I guess 0:00 PST it will be. About 9h to wait *sigh*
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
I could because I'm using cable internet but I know that the pool of IP addresses is pretty small so I won't risk getting my IP blocked and then wasting time trying to flush IP until I get another one.
[Nexus 4 General] Stave:
Midnight in France, still nothing...
[Nexus 4 General] Zurginator:
There is 0 chance of orders before midnight EST, and only like a 1% chance of orders before midnight PST... why are you guys refreshing every 5 seconds right now, when that's 6 hours away?

I mean really? For a bunch of really smart people you do a lot of dumb things. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
lol, just testing out what google can handle :p

I've actually got mine disabled right now, was just running it in the wee hours to make sure it worked properly, starting again at 2330 PST I'm setting it to 5 minutes, and at 2355 back to 30s. From my testing with XDA pages I noticed that sometimes when it is set to 5 seconds it will forget to refresh, and when I check it, it says it hasn't refreshed in 10 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] slg60:
Also waiting until I can place my order button on nexus 4 16 gig and Nexus 10 16 gig!:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Hallucinogen775:
i do have admin-access. i tried this, restarted router, cleared all browser-related data and then tried again. same thing... it doesnt work right now! i also tried downloading the chrome browser from google, same thing! no data throughput!

they are probably monitoring all the different forums around the globe, started to panic and some poor IT-guys are having a hard time expanding the infrastructure right now.

and there will be a few thousand people who are constantly hitting F5... please stop doing so!
[Nexus 4 General] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Tor!
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
it doesn't even make sense to refresh every 5 seconds shortly before it will start. As if it would be sold out if you are 30 seconds late...
[Nexus 4 General] rabhw:
Just another confirmation for Canadians. Orders will be shipping from a warehouse in Canada. The rep originally said from the US, then she asked her manager who corrected her and said Canada.

She also said they don't know when orders will be going up, but that it will likely be either 12am EST (9pm PST), or 12am PST (3am EST).
[Nexus 4 General] slg60:
But I will go to bed now and see whats going on when I wake up tomorrow morning.

I'm not that crazy!:D
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
Hmm, no Nexus 4 in Japan, wonder why...
[Nexus 4 General] AlphaKoi:
What limbo does this make me?

Above is my collective Nexus 4 experience so far

Below is my bank statement

Oh what to make of all this mess Google
[Nexus 4 General] m0h1t:
N4 bumper

Has there been any video footage of the nexus 4 bumper on youtube or elsewhere?

At least a few bumpers must have been delivered by now?
[Nexus 4 General] AKfortyseven:
You just begging to get arrested over a phone huh?
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
Wait wait, thanksgiving is on Thursday. So will they be out delivering packages and or packing up orders during next week?
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Very cool
[Nexus 4 General] tulongest:
Was just at Staples and Future Shop, almost bought another Nexus 7 (32 GB). That's how depressed I am about this situation. :(
[Nexus 4 General] twistkick:
Anybody in limbo get a shipping e-mail today, or do they not send sundays
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
Actually, as pointed out by a later poster or two, it doesn't even mean that much: it can take a couple of days after Google actually charges your credit card before the charge shows up in your account. The reason is that authorizations have to be quick but not really accurate -- the merchant needs to know that you have enough credit available so they will get paid if they sell you the merchandise, but no money is actually being transferred at that point -- and that inquiry shows up as a pending charge in your account. Essentially, your bank assumes that the real charge is going to be coming soon and reserves that amount of your credit line to pay the eventual charge. (If they don't see the corresponding real charge within a few days, they release the reserved amount back into your available balance.)

The real charge, on the other hand, isn't urgent -- you're not at the counter waiting for the merchant to decide you have enough to pay them -- but does need to be accurate, as it involves actual money being transferred from one account (yours) to another (theirs), so it's treated just like a check: they deposit the charge into their bank, which submits the charge to the clearinghouse, which submits it to your bank; your bank transfers the money to the merchant's bank to cover the deposit, and your account is debited. That routing and transfer isn't done instantly but can take a couple of days, especially over weekends when banks typically don't do any accounting.

So the scenario many people have been reporting makes complete sense: the pending charge disappears from your account because your bank hasn't received the corresponding real charge from Google by the time limit they keep the reserve in place according to their policies. The "date" in your Google Play account was changed from 13 November to 17 or 18 November because that's the day they actually charged your account, in accordance with their policy of charging when they ship. You don't see the real charge in your credit card account yet because it's a weekend and the bank's accounting, reflecting actual funds transfers, usually occurs overnight on weekdays.

The upshot is that those of you who have seen the "date" in your Play account change can be confident that your phone has been shipped, regardless of what your credit card account currently says. Your bank will debit it shortly. Those of you like me whose "date" still says 13 November... can keep waiting.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Save your money buy some beer and drink with us tonight then we all can be depressed together one happy family:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] apolloms:
pretty good up until the bolded part. anything about the date change is just speculation at this point.......not a single thing that is told to us by CSRs can be taken as true at this point.
[Nexus 4 General] luckylui:
Hahah
[Nexus 4 General] rpaloalto:
Just got off the phone with google.

They told me to calm down and that everything is OK. They are having trouble with the systems updating and most likely my phone is already in the mail. He said to call back if nothing shows up by Tuesday.

I doubt my phone has already shipped as my bank took back the original hold, and nothing new has come in.
[Nexus 4 General] qreffie:
I think the date changing just means that they've caught on that you're one of the affected customers and they're doing something in the system to try and fix it.

It would be nice of them if they were to just come clean and tell us what happened and what's going on in an email, announcement, news story, or blog/Google+ post so we can stop speculating. Being left out in the cold like this is horrible.
[Nexus 4 General] Novi84:
That's what they've been telling ppl for days. Might be true, but we can't really say anything since it's the weekend. By telling us to contact them if nothing happens by Tuesday, they buy themselves (and UPS) 2 more days of processing.
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
I think once we all get our orders figured out, and product in hand, a few days from then we'll all feel a sadness inside because though we've received our phones, we've lost the privilege of reading and posting on this forum!

Also, I'm still excited to receive my order but I forgot what the thing is I'm waiting for... :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] apolloms:
i disagree. there have been countless people call in and CSRs have looked at their individual orders and they don't have a change in their dates......
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
there will always we the limbo crew

we might meet in other threads but LIMBO WILL LIVE FOREVER

im making a limbo user group lol
[Nexus 4 General] jonnypedantic:
UPS observes Thanksgiving and the day after Thanksgiving as holidays. They will still be delivering through Wednesday. It appears that they might deliver Nexus orders on Friday as well, if those orders are being sent via some air method. However, I haven't gotten my shipping notification, so I'm not sure how the Nexus orders are being sent, and I could be misinterpreting their footnotes.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/imp_exp/operation.html
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
I think google is beta testing us, and thats why they put is in limbo or it could be in a sandbox :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
This brings back many discussions if you stop calling you won't get pissed or depressed all the answers you get are the same just worded different

Almost in the form of a question ( did I resolve all your issues today then you get the victor email ):cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] crwest:
So what happens then if your bank releases the charge, you get a shipping confirmation, and then you move all money out of your bank account?
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
I hope you are right!

but i have no hope left at this point.:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] jnewman1991:
Overcharge fees.
[Nexus 4 General] ketonkss4:
I really was convinced that I would have the new phone by now when I made the purchase that fateful tuesday morning....

I would really like to say screw google and get my money back and but I have already sold my phone and I don't wanna settle for anything that is not as awesome as the nexus 4...

Damn, First World Problems..
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
Can I be President?
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
over draft fee from your bank lol
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
It's still a secret
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
lol nice one.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
yes yes you can
[Nexus 4 General] scidon37:
Most likely the transaction will go through and your bank charges you an overdraft fee.

Sent from Limbo Level 3
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Not seeing a charge on your bank account is nothing to be worried about.

I've had times where I have made online purchases (usually pre-orders) where I received my item but didn't get charged for a few days to a week later.
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Fahrenheit:
I just want my shipping refund at this point with a free bumper/etc. and an official apology from Google, signed personally for every single one of us.
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
anyone with a pending charge probably had it taken off their account for the weekend, might be posted again tomorrow
[Nexus 4 General] frankied22:
Limbo level 1 here.

If I don't receive a email from Google by tonight or tomorrow, then this has officially gone beyond ridiculous.
[Nexus 4 General] Zurginator:
What if it's a pre-paid CC. :P
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
Hmm, ok thanks. First law is EVERYONE GETS FREE NEXUS 4! yay.:highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Called a local t-mobile store last night and they were sold out of Nexus 4s. They expect to get more next week. Not really sure how this all correlates but I'm hoping if they get more that Google is also getting more but I'm just hoping at this point....They also said they aren't trying to sell them off contract which I thought was odd.
[Nexus 4 General] Guster730:
They get more money if they sell it on contract.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
not sure about that check with company about over draft fees

your a good pres
[Nexus 4 General] Good Guy Mark:
They expect to get more next week? That must mean that Google will be shipping more to people who bought it off the google play store *crosses fingers*
[Nexus 4 General] Guster730:
If it already shipped wouldn't I get a UPS mychoice notification? Or is it not that reliable?
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Fahrenheit:
Well 17th was a Saturday. It might not be Shipped Shipped, but if this guy is right, you should get your notification on Monday once they start the process.

Just a guess on my part.
[Nexus 4 General] negative_epsilon:
I know a lot of people who ordered in the first minutes and got a status of "Pre-ordered" have had it changed to "Shipping estimate", but I'm still stuck here with no BO e-mail, only a pending charge in Wallet and a status of "Pre-ordered" that has not changed dates. I ordered at 11:34:37 EST according to Wallet, and I feel like my order has just been lost in the void. I've been pretty calm through the whole situation but I've started to get pretty livid seeing people who ordered at 2 PM EST get their phones already.
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
it's the legislature that writes laws, and i, senator trashville, propose a law to suspend nexus 4 order fulfillment indefinitely
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Fahrenheit:
Lets do a quick survey.

Who hasn't had their date changed to the 17th from 13th?
[Nexus 4 General] the_cosworth:
+2
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Not voting for your ass next time
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
Look at this bad boy: D
[Nexus 4 General] Guster730:
I'm in the same boat although my date has changed to the 17th, which I hope is a good sign. I have a good feeling about tomorrow though, have hope.
[Nexus 4 General] jnewman1991:
MyChoice only notifies you the day before it is delivered from what I've seen on this forum.
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
Me. Still stuck at pre-order but has a confirmation email and no BO/Delay email.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Hell I'll pay the shipping just send me my phone I don't care if I get a apology at this point the 3 to 5 business days won't be up till Tuesday it's just crappy the way they did it
[Nexus 4 General] tulongest:
Me

Count = 2 (add to this post?)
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
3

theres a mass number of people who got changed yesterday morning every one said the did for the most part
[Nexus 4 General] decepticon:
No date change, no BO, nothing but the original confirmation.
[Nexus 4 General] 2015Ducatimulti:
yeah my order changed to the 17th hopefully its good sign:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.Fahrenheit:
Looks like there are still people who haven't had anything changed though, so maybe it's progress on their part or they just haven't gotten to changing your dates yet.

I have a wild suspicion that they aren't working around the clock >.>
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

...
[Nexus 4 General] ferdeenand:
Same here... For me, everything is exactly as it was at 11:33am EST on the 13th.

I submitted this thread to the TWiT.tv Tech News Today Reddit... vote it up! Since this is my first post, I cannot give you the link, but Google "Tech News Today Reddit" to find it. The story title is "Early orders of Nexus 4 ignored, customers left in limbo."
[Nexus 4 General] crwest:
You bastard
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
I ordered mine at 832.

My wife ordered hers at 846.

Mine changed to the 17th. Hers did not.
[Nexus 4 General] User1110:
Its kinda sad how Google handled this whole situation, a website that can handle thousands of searches at a time and stream videos to millions of user with ease, but cant handle a couple of online orders for an actual physical product. If the Nexus was $500 on PlayStore Google probably would have handled this whole process much more frequently and attentively.I was on limbo.... until Friday :D my 16 GB Nexus 4 which I ordered at 11:48am EST will be arriving tomorrow. :victory: The T-mobile stores in my area don't even sell the Nexus, so I wont have to go through the trouble of hunting one down :)
[Nexus 4 General] boostedfern:
Nothing on mine has changed.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Is this the sign of lady's first you may be playing with hers
[Nexus 4 General] code65536:
Moi.

Ordered a 16GB at 12:47 PM EST (so I'm one of those who got it on a F5; I started trying to order at 11:36 AM EST, but despite countless attempts with multiple browser windows, I couldn't get it in the initial rush and had to wait for some cancellation stock), got the BO e-mail, status says pending in Wallet, shipping estimate is still 15th, order date is still 13th, charge authorization is still active (but that was to be expected, since Amex keeps charge authorizations alive for 7 days).
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
I canceled my order with Google And went to T-Mobile added a new line for 5$ a month And pay per megabytes free And got the phone for 213$ taxes included. I drove almost 2 hours for it. But guess what? It's worth it BAD
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Me! Mine still says purchased on the 13th and shipping estimate on the 15th.
[Nexus 4 General] feelfreetoblameme:
Same here, except my pending charge has dropped off. 16GB+bumper, 9:55 am Pacific.
[Nexus 4 General] tengen:
No change on mine.
[Nexus 4 General] o.mehmedovic:
I'm still pissed off that people who ordered after me are getting their orders, while I didn't receive a BO e-mail and my shipping date is still showing November 15th.

From the posts I have seen on here, the majority has ordered after me. 10:31 CST here.
[Nexus 4 General] AIovanna:
Right here...still 13th...
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Right here... 13th
[Nexus 4 General] the1onewolf:
bull****

Not you, I mean google play of course
[Nexus 4 General] negative_epsilon:
Totally understand. 11:34 and still pre-ordered. People talking about having their phones when they ordered later in the day is just an upsetting thought.
[Nexus 4 General] AIovanna:
I thought it didn't go on sale until 8:32 PST....which is when I ordered....yours is the first one I've seen before mine....aren't we the lucky ones...
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Currently on hold... I figured I will call everyday until I get a straight answer.
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
I hope everyone get his soon. Its nice phone and very elegant
[Nexus 4 General] markp1989:
Still not able to order mine, unfortunately in the UK O2 have an exclusive on contracts for a month, even though they have stock they are charging a stupid amount for it on a contract...£299 + £26 a month for 24months....the phone is £279 from the play store...who in their right mind go for that contract.

Hopefully google will start taking orders again, I am really annoyed that I over slept on Tuesday my alarm was set for 7am for work and I slept through it, the phone went on sale just after 8am , i woke up at 8:30 and they were gone :(

Hopefully I will get it before christmas, but I am not holding my breath.
[Nexus 4 General] brewdude:
I'm sure the shipping with still be 2 day. It's the order processing that we are stuck with.
[Nexus 4 General] JNewms:
Thought that I'd chime in. All of my order info is still the same as it was Tuesday. No dates have changed, no BO email. Charges were released from hold. No idea what is going on, but I'm really frustrated. Had I known the first to order were going to get hosed I wouldn't have made sure to keep an eye on Google play. These late people posting pics is infuriating.
[Nexus 4 General] luke_c94:
8:27 here, still in Limbo 3, shipping estimate still the 15th and pending in Google Wallet, got the BO order as well...
[Nexus 4 General] artifex21:
Does anyone knows when will the phone be available in Spain again and what are the shipping and tax price for this country ? Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
I don't know anything personally about UPS handling, but I saw someone post a few pages ago that they only notify you the day before your shipment is expected to arrive, not when the shipping label is generated or when the item leaves the shipper.
[Nexus 4 General] burgershot:
Nov 13, 2012 11:34:43 AM EST

I'm stuck on pre-ordered too. Haven't heard a thing from google since the receipt email.
[Nexus 4 General] ny15456:
BO mail, No change
[Nexus 4 General] wmm:
Agreed. Seems like the most plausible explanation of the data, though.
[Nexus 4 General] booyakasha:
You can adjust when and how to be notified...I think the previous post was correct though, earliest notification is the day before, followed by day of, then finally when (and where) its delivered.
[Nexus 4 General] Fr33L4nc3r:
Does Google also provides the dust in the box or it is just coming from your (friend's ?) car ? :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
It haa been confirmed that Oswald was a puppet from Abstergo, uh, I mean , the Templars.
[Nexus 4 General] gallitoreds:
People.... enjoy your sunday! I think its pretty safe to assume that we will not be getting any updates today!
[Nexus 4 General] t4t3r:
Another one with no change to my 8:35 order, everything is the same as it was Tuesday morning.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
What is a straight answer or better yet define normal :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] Endoran:
Me as well. Ordered at 8:32am PST.
[Nexus 4 General] ml3000:
Mine still hasnt changed
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Let's say I am doing it for S&G
[Nexus 4 General] KPH325:
No change. still 11/13. 11:34 est.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
VICTOR is that really you:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
I picture victor with an evil goatee and handlebar mustache. Black hair of course
[Nexus 4 General] booyakasha:
No change for me either (8:36:05PST)

---------- Post added at 04:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:58 PM ----------

In a tuxedo T-shirt
[Nexus 4 General] leets4uc3:
lol at that victor meme..

i made a facebook group if anyone wants to join it. made it so we can chat. it can some times be hard to follow all of these posts when there is 50 posts every 10 minutes.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/230786630384666/
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
With long black hair that is kinda put in a pony tail. Like that "neckbeard " meme guy
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Another no changem 11:42EST. Now only a free charging orb could quench my anger since I dont think I'll be getting anything before Thanksgiving
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Damn 35 minutes and I am still on hold...
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Had to ask, any follow up to that letter we were promised? Coming on Monday?
[Nexus 4 General] FatalityBoyZahy:
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[Nexus 4 General] Hero_Guy:
ಠ_ರೃ
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Are you trying to show off the phone or your package? Kidding.. Congrats.. Now find a new thread and stop gloating. :)