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[Nexus 4 General] JaminooJ:
This Thanksgiving Eve......I am Thankful for this thread. I have been quietly following this thread every day since the 13th. I refuse to let this thread die until all of us LL3ers have our devices in hand. Thanks to all those who posted.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
did you gets yours yet roxy ?
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
WTF? O_O
[Nexus 4 General] :
BC
[Nexus 4 General] ludalex07:
What? XD
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
Lol the temporary authorization for GOOGLE*Kittehfacesoft that appeared and disappeared last night has now reappeared.
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
No, not yet. It's out for delivery though. :D
[Nexus 4 General] pyee0124:
If anyone is still keeping track..

LL3 Hasn't changed for me since the 13th.

Order Date: November 13, 2012 8:41:06 AM UTC-8(PST)

Nexus 4 (16GB)

Still listed as Pending with a shipping date of Nov. 15th, even though I've received a BO email.

I am in Canada if that helps.
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
lol...you did it? :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
did anyone of those who got the pending credit on your bank account/credit card get a shipping info?
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
This is what I like to call the M3 effect.

Years ago, the BMW M3 was an expensive (relative to most), exclusive car. M3Forum was a place for the well-to-do enthusiast, especially the E46 section.

Once the E46 dropped enough in value that any 16 year old could get his dad to buy him one (<16k), the forum went downhill, honda-tech style. All the old regulars who could still afford new M3s were inundated with Stunnas and people who loved nothing more than to hate-on others and start fights on the internet.

Now that there is a used phone market, parent-hand-me-downs, and certainly now that Google/LG have brought this phone to market at a reasonable price, you have all the people that are looking for a ROM or ordered the N4 coming here strictly to complain, but hanging around to "contribute" to the threads. Some of those people are responsible and mindful. Some want nothing more than to tell others how stupid they are.

The increased traffic can be a great thing for XDA, as I'm sure the advertisers love it. Whether it's a good or bad thing to XDA members depends on the user.

Good analogy. If this thing were sold on eBay, Google's account would have already been suspended. (Not that eBay has their **** together, because they definitely DO NOT, but eh, just saying.)
[Nexus 4 General] elias0441:
How many limbo 3s haven't got any sign of shipping yet? Does the google doc show ?

I know i'm one
[Nexus 4 General] IVBela:
Then comes our turn! I had the darned phone in my cart TWICE, but never succeeded to reach the checkout page without error. Silently reading this forum every day, waiting for being able to order again, hoping to get the stuff before Christmas... Till then just reading the pains of limboers, knowing they have no idea how much better is for them knowing they are closer to the destination than us. :)

Limbo level 0 I guess?
[Nexus 4 General] ludalex07:
Yup.
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
nice! :laugh: maybe i could stop to watch the uk store by proxy :D
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Well just for the record last night sucked big time. No shipping and then XDA went down :( Congrats to all the Canadians that will be getting their phones today. Now it's just us LL3s ... if we get our phones sooner than 3 weeks it will be a nice surprise. Look at it this way - we should still have a nice christmas present. No telling when the next orders will go online.
[Nexus 4 General] abowmedia:
Thanks for the sentiment, but its Thanksgiving eve and I haven't received any update or notice of any kinda... pretty sure its not coming. I'd rather give up hope and be happy when it randomly arrives at my door. :p
[Nexus 4 General] Raptor5150:
Teh Roxeh!

watch dis :3 before your nexus gets here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjFF7c8g3E4
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Yup LL0 otherwise known as tomorrows ballsup.
[Nexus 4 General] slam721:
LL3 here. haven't received any updates about shipping or anything.

order date: 11/17/12

pending status
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I had hoped for a batch sooner by air freight but the 3 week we keep hearing make me think it really is coming by boat.
[Nexus 4 General] Vahndroid84:
yes

you can't imagine (maybe you can ;)) how it's worse...staying here without knowing anything about the restock, afraid that maybe the second stock would be another holy war on the playstore checkout...with the chance of getting nothing another time.

I prefer to be a limboers too :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
I still hate Google Play and I will never be a customer of theirs ever again. But it is Thanksgiving tomorrow and I want to wish everyone here a Happy Thanksgiving and remember (for most of us) its great to live in the first world with so much to be thankful for. Thanks to the level two people who stuck around to watch us level 3 people whine. Have a great time off work (I know I will, five days is awesome).
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I don't think any Limbo lvl 3s have shipping. Check my sig for the spreadsheet I created yesterday with info. There's about 250 entries and only 9 reported shipping. Most were either lvl 2 or mistakes (put yes by accident or didn't know their lvl).

EDIT here's the link in case your on your phone and can't see sigs. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtyInwWtLinLdEUtek1vSF9ETDFGVHNQa0hzUG5tWlE

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] Slimgym20:
I haven't gotten any shipping info yet. But the play store now shows November 19 with the status as Pending. So does this mean I should be getting something soon?
[Nexus 4 General] sn0warmy:
So true.

Yeah, the same thing happened on the STI forums as well. When I first purchased one the forums consisted mainly of those who purchased the car brand new themselves and just wanted to learn more about how it worked, proper upgrades, and maintenance tips.

As the mileage of the cars increased and they started being purchased by the younger crowd, the forums got swamped with kiddies wanting loud blow off valves, "hella flush" setups, and body kits.

I suppose this trend is typical with many products these days.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
mine to i took at the the trash heard a truck it was Fed-ex lol
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
Maybe I am just a Google fan boy but I really am not angry with them. They botched a launch...they didn't commit genocide.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
:good::good::good::)
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
The CSRs don't know anything. They give you an answer based on how you answer their question of if you received a BO email. They don't even have a way to see if you actually got the email it seems. I'm skeptical that the CSR I talked to was even looking at my order when I called, she was nice though and I think they are just telling us what they are told to answer. They are impotent and it's not their fault directly.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
We're all Google fan boys if were buying a Nexus.

They messed up on day one, which is forgivable. After day one they still made no attempt to fix anything or communicate. That's why it's so messed up. That's why people are angry.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
Hang in there people!! Happy Holidays! :(
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
http://ludalex.soupwhale.com/n4checker/

The instructions say: hit F5 if you get an error. Isn't that how we got into this mess!!:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] jraymond:
I am officially no longer LL2.

I woke up this morning, Wednesday, to find the BO email. I got it at 5:46 am 11/21/2012.

"Thank you for contacting Google Play! We are working to ship all items in your order as quickly as possible within the 3 week time frame. You will receive an email confirmation as soon as your order is processed and on its way. You should have received an email notification about the status of your order."

I just got off the phone with a supervisor and he explained that the part of the problem with my order may have been that I had ordered the 16g and the bumper together. Also he noted that the 8g were not back ordered. He said for an unknown reason, that there were some that should have gotten the BO email but didn't.

I pressed, but he could not give me any firmer estimate other than within 3 weeks for delivery. I am now getting free shipping.

I hope this information helps the few others that thought they have been LL2. I think it might be just a few of us that ordered this early (I ordered at 8:44) that got back ordered and also never got the BO email till this morning.

Time line

LL2 up to 11/20/2012, now LL3 as of 11/21/2012

1-N4 16g and 1-bumper

Ordered 8:33:59 AM PST Utah.

Received confirmation email shortly after order.

Numerous emails confirming that it will ship.

Date has changed from 13th to the 17th to the 19th.

Charge of 407.15 dropped off my cc.

Status is Pending (3 weeks) as of 11/20/2012.

Called Monday and was told it has shipped and you will get it Tuesday. Got the canned email follow up. I have not received it.

Called Tuesday and got my order referred to a specialist. Stuck in "chargeable", bla, bla, bla.

Mysterious credit of 407.15 applied to my cc, then taken off 11/20/2012.

Called Tuesday night and promised it was shipping.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
We're waiting for a shot of your nexus with the kitties on it :)
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
Loool, this just checks if it's available in the Play Store, eh? Nothing more.
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
My condolences to you... welcome to the club!
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
Lol I'll post the picture once I get my phone. XD
[Nexus 4 General] primeradical:
Got an email this morning from a rep saying I was definitely on back-order and should receive shipping information within 3 weeks.

So there's that.

Ordered at 1:03EST (11:03 PST).
[Nexus 4 General] gbroon:
Shows other countries too. Means we can start complaining a few minutes earlier when another country gets it before our country.
[Nexus 4 General] IVBela:
What bothers me the most is that we practically give all our sensitive data into Google's hands via our phones, via their services, and we trust them they handle it as we'd expect. We did a similar way when we tried to order these phones. They failed hard. Then failed repeatedly. And they still keep failing. Now I wonder how safe is our data in their hands, how careful they handle it, and if we can trust them at all after seeing how professionally they can fail and handle their failure. Not sure what to think.
[Nexus 4 General] slowpc:
Well , While waiting in the Limbo Level of the third power... ended up grabbbing something to keep my mind off of all this... grabbed myself a wii-u. Anyone else grab one... exchange friends? ;)

Limbo together !
[Nexus 4 General] Slimgym20:
Yesterday I noticed, as did many others, that their Date went to November 19 and Status as Pending. I ordered at 8:54:25 AM PST and got the back order email. Do we know yet if this means we should be getting the device soon or this just a random update in the system?
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
At this point, the CSRs should be telling us we should be getting our order confirmation within 2 weeks. Guess some habits are hard to break.

I guess not a whole lot will be coming of this thread for the next couple of days, so I will be taking a break from officially joining the Nexus 4 Drinking Club in the evenings. That being said, I will be drinking with my friends and family to celebrate the holiday and encourage you all to do the same. :D

Happy Thanksgiving (to those in the US), and Happy... whatever the hell it is you do when we're celebrating Thanksgiving in the US to everyone else.
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
It's probably just an update to reflect the true status now instead of estimate shipping of last week
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Happy Thanksgiving! I can't give up the Nexus drinking club ... I enjoy the whine ;)
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
They oversold and didn't give much info to those in limbo 2 that was wrong. However they pretty clearly communicated the backorder email to limbo 3. People are just anxious hoping it might arrive sooner.
[Nexus 4 General] loomism2:
I've got a question about the micro sim card. We can't go to the TMo store to pick one up until we get out phone, correct? Or, we can as long as both phones (new and old) aren't using them at the same time? I don't know when my phone will actually ship, but I would like to be prepared when it does. Can I just go to the store now and pick one up even though it won't be used for a while?

Just for facts' sake:

Level 3

Ordered at 2:07pm EST

Date on Google Play store still says the 13th, and switched to Pending on the 20th
[Nexus 4 General] Slimgym20:
That's what I assumed unfortunately. I emailed them yesterday and this is what I got back:

"Thank you for your patience I understand how frustrating this can be.

Rest assured that Nexus 4 orders are being delivered based on the order in which they were received. Due to overwhelming demand we sold out of Nexus 4 extremely quickly. I have been assured that this is how we are sending out the devices and you should receive yours within the three week window stated in the letter.

Thanks for reaching out to me and I sincerely apologize for the delay in getting your device delivered."

Like someone said previously, the frustrating thing is that they have a new story for every person and they won't just be honest with us all. We all know shipping has not been done based on order time - that's a bold face lie.
[Nexus 4 General] akkiman:
Same status. I ordered at 08:56 AM PST. I'm expecting it now in the first week of December.
[Nexus 4 General] jmejiaa:
You can always buy one and activate it later. Or you can just go to a cell phone place and have your current sim cut.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
If you look at it from their standpoint they actually met the 5-7 day deadline for LL2s (except for some unlucky ones arriving today). Like someone mentioned earlier they knew by the 15th who was left out in the cold so we all got the BO email. Keeping my fingers crossed it's sooner than 3 weeks.

More emails from Google along the way sure would have helped.
[Nexus 4 General] deestroi66:
Wow. Your order went through 3 minutes after it went on sale and still got backordered. Must be brutal, I would've strangled a kitten.

EDIT: Wait, hold up, Utah is MST not PST.

Nvm, leave the kitty alone.
[Nexus 4 General] sn0warmy:
That sentence hurt my brain.

Also, Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
It's like Google has no control over the Play Store. Seems like the Play Store is it's own division that no one really controls. They just do what they want.

"Oh seems like we ran out of phones. Oh well we'll just order some more by sea. It's not like we promised our customers delivery within 3-5 business days or anything. They can wait 3 weeks for the boat to arrive because I don't want to fork over extra money for delivery by air. I'm sure they will be just fine."
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Liiiesssss... ^^ It's a well known FACT that 8GB are backordered to hell and back.
[Nexus 4 General] rosemachinegun:
I went in to find out the same thing and was told that you can't have 2 at once. However, the guy did solve the problem for me by taking my sim and cutting it out into the microsim format, then taping the card back together into the regular sim format. So once I have the phone I can easily remove the tape and insert it into the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
hey now! what about us whiny teenage devs who get's a phone from parents every year or so?

:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I happened to refresh the page within a couple of minutes of going live. By 9:36 CST I had an 8gb at the final screen. I hit submit order and nothing happened, they screen just faded a little. I let it sit for about 30 minutes hoping I would get an email but never did :( Later on I realized most of those people are in the same boat as me. I finally got orders in at 12 CST.
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
Now I am hearing about a possible Sony Nexus and I am wondering if I should wait in hopes of LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
ITS HERE
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
I'm pretty sure that just means we are really on back order. I would feel better if it showed an actual date even it it was say December 6. At least I would know
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
omg man let me put this lie to rest also.

TMO will give you a micro sim, with the option to activate it later.

See the pic of mine right here:

This one is in my glovebox, my regular SIM is in my phone. wtf.
[Nexus 4 General] itznfb:
The Sony Nexus was a hoax. If one is made in the future we won't be seeing it for at least a year.
[Nexus 4 General] parelem:
After getting burned in the Nexus 7 ordeal, and now being in LL3, I'm done ordering devices from the Play store. This really is ridiculous. If I could get a 16gb Nexus 4 somewhere faster than I will waiting, I'd cancel in a heartbeat.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
My theory on the date changes for November 19 goes as follows. They're going to go by the Nov 19 date as the date you purchased your phone so they can figure out who comes first. Nov 19 + five business days (subtract thursday, sat, sun) and this is most likely when we will receive our shipping information. Then add 2-3 days for shipping and this is most likely when we will have our nexus 4 phones for all of us stuck in Nov 19 pending date. I don't know about you guys, but I will be asking for free shipping of next day air, considering they're a bunch of dumb idiots at Google Play. I think two weeks is a bit of a stretch.

---------- Post added at 09:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:41 AM ----------

Me as well, I'd pay the T-Mobile price right now also. I REFUSE TO PAY ebay scalpers though. I don't care if they were selling for 399, I still wouldn't buy off ebay, Fk those people right away.
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
http://www.product-reviews.net/2012...paign=android-5-0-key-lime-pie-update-anxiety

Maybe not the best source? Thoughts?
[Nexus 4 General] deestroi66:
Yup almost the same story as mine. I was there the second it went live and struggled to complete an order. I had a 16GB on my cart on the very first minute then it was just stuck on processing for 10 minutes. I was rattled so I hit cancel to do it all over again then BAM, the add to cart button wasn't available anymore. So I joined the F5 crew for about 17 minutes then I finally got a successful order. So that's 27 minutes after it went live. Order completed: November 13 10:57:51AM CST, Got the back ordered email: November 15 02:00PM CST
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Google has said Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 will be their offical Nexus line for this year. Expect around October of 2013 to hear the new Nexus line up of devices.
[Nexus 4 General] cavallino33:
Didn't know that. Thank you.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
The 19th date refers to the last time the order was touched. They did not move the purchase date, it's still the 13th(just click more info). Also they already told us we will receive free shipping. I do hope you are right about the timing of the shipping :good:
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
This is a response to an email I sent to Oumar a couple of days ago

I replied that I didn't. Then he sends me this stupid reply"
[Nexus 4 General] bmwracer0:
Likely will be a new one in June/July, if you ask me.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
They have pre set messages setup for this stuff. The CSR reads the email and goes "oh, nexus 4 non-sense, let me check canned response F5. There we go, work done"
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
Here my reply:

All the sudden the automated reply has gone and now I have him writing back:
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
Received my Nexus 4 today around 10:30am EST, I ordered at 11:35am EST 11/13. I was a level 2 limbo :)
[Nexus 4 General] Novi84:
Should be! Mine was on 3 late planes, and was sitting 1 hour drive away from it's destination from 8.30AM yesterday until this morning. Now it's on a truck, but delivery end of day. Doesn't matter to me, but it's delivering to my in-laws who now has to wait for it before they can leave to celebrate Thanksgiving :-/
[Nexus 4 General] mtakako:
I think you are still better off than me. I am still at LL2. Nothing as of yet and google play still show order on Nov 13 with a "pre-ordered" status. Order at 8:35 PST.
[Nexus 4 General] whahn1983:
I ended up buying myself a new watch to cheer me up, since the Nexus 4 was supposed to be my birthday gift, now it looks like my xmas gift lol.
[Nexus 4 General] qreffie:
Well UPS may have just screwed me out of getting my phone today. Their driver apparently can't find my apartment so the didn't even try to deliver it. So I called them and told them that the address on the order is correct, that USPS and FedEx have no problem finding it and that they have delivered to this address in the past. Now they're saying they'll contact the local facility and that someone will try to call me between now and 8pm today. Incompetence! If they had a problem they could have just called me, it's not like they don't have my phone number.
[Nexus 4 General] tylerwatt12:
Finally this thread is starting to die down.
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Uh, just go pick it up from their distribution center.
[Nexus 4 General] twistkick:
I'm about to torture myself in the most bitter-sweet way possible. I get to try out my brother-in-law's n4 since he's out of town right now, but then I'll be used to it and I'll be giving it up until mine is here..
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
Yeah, 95% of the people here were all people who got their phone yesterday and today. The rest of us, Google Play shafted because they just HAD to send out all their phones to people who ordered like 20.
[Nexus 4 General] Gloularis:
Not true, look at the polls, the majority of the people are in LL3 still.
[Nexus 4 General] Novi84:
I really feel with you people still in limbo. It's now past the max delivery time, and they haven't even sent it to you. They can somewhat defend their actions to those who are getting their phone today or tomorrow (at least has a tracking no), but still giving y'all the same BS as they have for a week is horrible. No other company would get away with it, and free shipping is not gonna cut it. I'm getting mine today, but I am sincerely pissed off on your behalf (and I haven't really calmed down since I was pissed off regarding my own phone). Free shipping and bumper is the minimum of compensation y'all should get!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Well, this was a reply I received from Jason, who I've been communicating with since the 15th....we're tight, almost bff's. It made me feel better.....We'll see :/
[Nexus 4 General] the_r2d2:
They are in LL3 because Google sent phones to people who ordered multiples, and left singles like most of the people left in this thread high and dry...
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Im just tired, cant even press on "reply" anymore.. just, gimme my phone.
[Nexus 4 General] UCFJake:
I think the thread is slowing down because there is no more we can do. The orders have stopped moving at all and with Thanksgiving in the US many businesses are closed Thurs and Fri. I expect nothing to even show up from Google until Monday at the earliest. Black Friday stock would have been delivered today at latest.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] lskeys:
Well, I have been monitoring https://negrielectronics.com/ since I got the back order email. They are selling a16GB for $448.00. They are who I ordered my Galaxy Nexus and now S3 from. On the 15th on Nov. their availability was Nov. 19. Monday it moved to Nov. 23rd. Now look.

Availability: Pre Order

Regular Price:

$448.50

LG E960 Nexus 4 16GB (Unlocked)

.

Estimated Availability: Dec 07 2012

That seem to be close to the 3 week time frame from Nov. 15th
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
More lies from CSR. I'd almost bet my Nexus on it.
[Nexus 4 General] Gloularis:
I think Google will have to provide an improved service when batch 2 arrives. And, if the 17k number is true, LG should increase their production by 500% to meet the high demand for Xmas.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I'm sure. But it did make me happy reading it...lol