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[Nexus 4 General] solarspeed:
With the specs like that I expected the price to be close to 700$, but boy, it's twice as less and it's definitely my next phone! I'm eagerly waiting for Verge's review (battery life is crucial to me) and iFixIt's teardown (also, will I be able to replace battery if I really need it?).

My plan was to wait for Galaxy Nexus' price to drop after N4 launch, and I was truly shocked to know that now these 2 devices cost the same. Incredible move by Google.
[Nexus 4 General] kisrita:
I stream videos on the galaxy nexus on tmobile hspa+ all the time without the least problem. I've actually been wondering what benefit LTE offers, and could only see it as beneficial if tethering to a laptop. I'm seriously asking; what can I do with LTE that I can't do on hspa+, getting on average 6000 kbps real life speeds?
[Nexus 4 General] vido.ardes:
Somewhere a grammar Nazi died after reading this...
[Nexus 4 General] CJHolderUK:
lmao, I'm in hysterics :good::highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] fiskenigaten:
This is definately my next phone! Every time I see it i puke rainbows...
[Nexus 4 General] JalmiNyondong1933:
Yes. The 16 GB version

only Chuck Norris can judge me
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
iPhone 5 or GN4?

More for less, or less for more?
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
Going to sell my HOX to fund a Nexus 4. Can't wait to be back on a Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] aLPaSLaN07:
Shortly; nothing..

Also it is expensive for daily usage. You can load youtube videos in 5 seconds but whats the point if you already watching it flawlessly with hspa+?
[Nexus 4 General] Prawesome:
Nexus 4 of course

Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:
[Nexus 4 General] TamCore:
I'll buy the 16GB version and sell my sensation. The price is epic and I think the device is worth it.
[Nexus 4 General] Joloxx9:
If I will sell my S2 for 170 i will buy 16Gb version;)

Wysyłane z mojego GT-I9100 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] taodan:
I wish Google had two different sizes for the phones, 4.7 inches and 4 inches and have microSD card slot. A phone with 4.7 inches is just too big. I like a phone that fits nicely in a pocket.
[Nexus 4 General] Lockett:
I'm most likely going to order one and try it out on t-mobile's no contract plans. If the service and device meet me expectations, I will sell my Razr Maxx (soon to be GNex) and cancel my plan with Verizon. If it doesn't meet expectations I'll just sell the phone and pick up a Note 2.
[Nexus 4 General] CJHolderUK:
I would say I'm stuck in Limbo over getting the N4 or the N10. ;)

Do I need a new phone or a new tablet? :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] nbeebe24:
Definitely getting this. Will be selling my GS3 and pay g the etf for this baby. I was foolish to leave t-mobile
[Nexus 4 General] bromat80:
I will be getting this phone and can't wait. I am still stuck on my HTC evo 4g with sprints terrible data speeds. My contract is up with them in the beginning of December and I will be trying out the T-Mobile 30$ pre paid plan.

I think this phone will go together great with my new nexus 7 I just bought.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] pospower:
Do we have multi tasking on the Tmobile version either out of the of the box or with tweak?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] B.Jay:
Thread moved.

@OP: May I remind you to post in the correct forums? Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] graveghoul:
I can confirm, no we dont have it or screen recording. Some BS that Samsung and TMo didnt put their heads together before they released it. We are waiting for a software update apparently.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Tidbits:
from what I heard... Verizon version is the only one that'll have it out of box. Ironically it is being released Late November. Just seems like Samsung is slacking. It should have been working already out of the box, but everywhere including Korea it wasn't released out of box.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brad387:
Quite a simple question really, which was already mentioned in the title of the thread. What do you believe to be the best tablet? A 16 GB Nexus 7 WiFi model or a 16 GB Nexus 10 WiFi model?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PMOttawa:
Hmm...

Kind of an odd question really. Clearly the 10 has better specs, including screen.

But I'm pretty sure many of us bought a Nexus 7 because it was 7 inches portable. So, I'm pretty confident saying that the Nexus 7 is a better 7 inch tab than the 10 is.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brad387:
Well, it is obvious that the Nexus 7 (which is a 7" tab) is better at being a 7" tablet than a Nexus 10 (which isn't a 7" tab, but a 10" one). However, isn't the Nexus 10 only a dual-core processor? I know the screen resolution is quite amazing, but besides that isn't it actually worse?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
CPU: http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a15.php

GPU: http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-t604.php

CPU core count isn't all that matters. I don't have any real-world benchmarks, but I'm pretty sure that CPU alone can execute tasks faster and better than the Tegra 3. And since the GPU and CPU aren't on the same chip (that I know of), that also comes with it's share of better performance.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ÜBER™:
This ^.

You cant really justify which is better becuase the size difference. Like the first poster said we all bought this for the form factor. So to us the N7 is better regardless of the specs. However spec wise... i would go with the N10.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nospin:
Two completely different forms factors and uses. They are both great devices.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wy2sl0:
CPU in the N10 is about twice as fast as the best A9 (S4 Pro) out now. It is more than likely about 3-4 times faster than the T3.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sahshah:
Two different devices for different purposes, its like comparing a motor bike to a car :p
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androo45:
It is like asking: 'What is the best: a semi or a van?'

Those 2 tablets are just in a different market, ergo not comparable.

If you don't take the size in the comparison, the Nexus 10 would win: more efficient/faster processor, way better grafics, almost quadripple resolution, ..etc.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I Am Marino:
By specs, N10 destroys the N7.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killer8297:
In terms of pure performance, which one is better?

The Nexus 10 is a dual core vs Tegra 3 Quad core.

2gb ram vs 1gb ram.

Also take in consideration Tegra Zone support, although not really related to performance. The Tegra 3 gets larger list of premium games.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wy2sl0:
It isn't even a comparison. The N10 slaughters the N7. Pros vs joes if you will.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
I'd still keep my 7". It performs just fine for what I need it for. 10" is too big. I'm more comfortable with my laptop at that point.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] becker.:
Tegra has CPUs and GPU on a single chip, and other details

You are confused.

The Tegra is a System-on-Chip ("SoC") that has both CPU and GPU cores on the same die. The CPU complex has four A9 ARM cores, plus a fifth "ninja" A7 core. The GPU has 12 cores, plus a number of special functional units. All cores access the shared RAM through a single memory controller.

The CPU complex spends most of its time running only the power-optimized "ninja" core, with the other cores powered off. The ninja CPU has a simpler A7 core and is implemented with power-optimized low-leakage transistors. (The A7 core does less speculative work, and thus is more power efficient than the A9 cores even taking into account the extra clock cycles needed.) If the workload increases, the main cores are powered up and execution is switched over, with the ninja core left idle in a low power mode.

The GPU complex has 12 general execution units, but these aren't directly comparable to CPU cores. You can't even compare them to the "cores" in other types of GPUs. In addition, there are other special units such as video and audio decoders in the GPU complex. These operations could be done on the main CPU or, sometimes, the GPU. But they are common and power-hungry enough to get hard-wired logic.

All of this complexity makes it really difficult to benchmark and compare. Or really easy, if your goal is to make one product look faster than another.

The Tegra is carefully tuned to do HD video decode with only the ninja core and GPU turned on, thus consuming little power. There is just enough CPU time left over to supervise the cellular modem for housekeeping operations, or do other trivial tasks. But if you add in just a little application work, the main four cores are activated and power usage goes way up.

Another way to skew the test result is to pick specific micro benchmarks. The Apple A5 (which is unrelated to the ARM numbers e.g. A7 and A9) was designed for a high resolution screen, and knowing that many early apps would be iPhone apps with pixel doubling. They put extra gates to increase the pixel fill rate and smoothing performance. This resulted in a bigger chip, but better performance with modest power use for these functions.

My estimation: The Nexus 7 with Tegra 3 is faster, has the potential to be more power efficient, and will have better long-term support and improvements. The N10 has the big advantage of 2GB of memory, which may become important with future versions of Android.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kearkan:
Best answer I've seen.

And has been said before, surely, in the end it comes down to what do you want to do with it. I prefer my n7 because 10" tablets are simply too big and uncomfortable
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] player911:
Real world experience will require the device in hand. The resolution being pushed will need a lot more backbone to provide the same smooth experience as the lower resolution device. Just look at the iPad 2 vs 3. The iPad 2 felt like a better experience because of the lower resolution. Most people couldn't even tell the two apart or correctly identify which was one or the other.

Resolution that high is retarded on a 10" screen. Waste of battery and resources.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gbjack:
I say wait another 3 months before committed to buying 10 inch. Google might upgrade its 10 inch with 3G, who knows, having experiencing what they did with 7 inch.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] James-NC:
I agree.A super display is great if everything is built to look good on it but not if it comes at too big of cost in performance.That is what happened to the ipad 3.They made a good device pretty, but slow.On a small screen most can't tell the difference in dvd quality and full hd.Both would look good but one would smoke the other with the same hardware doing other things. jmo
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] becker.:
Keep in mind why the iPad has pointlessly high resolution. It wasn't that Apple wanted to provide an exceptional experience. It was that the underlying software wasn't designed for different screen sizes and proportions. They had a choice between redesigning the API combined with converting apps, or making the screen exactly double the number of pixels in each direction. Apple's big market advantage was the higher app count, and many apps wouldn't be converted to a new interface ("walking dead" / will never be updated). So they went with a hardware solution, and marketed the "retina display" as a plus rather than a work-around for a primitive API. (A replay of the Mac ROM holding back OS improvements.)
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H4CK_H0PP3R:
Ofcourse specs wise N10 wins..But N10 lacks some features like its only WIFI no 3G/2G !!! it will be tough for my country .
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pannags:
Really depends ... but then

I've been reading up a lot of general stuff on the choice of screen size and finally think it depends largely on exactly what one wants to do with the device. The best thing is, of course, to own both, which may not be the smartest thing to do with your currency.

OTOH, while I'm yet to make that final decision on whether the 7 32GB 3G makes its way home or the 10 32GB, I believe it can be made easier considering the following:

1. With 70% < at home use and occasional travel, the Nexus 10 makes a definite choice

2. With 70% < on the move and very occasional at home browsing, the Nexus 7 makes a compelling choice

Coming to the drawbacks, the Nexus 7 lacks a rear camera and an HDMI - something that cannot be overcome, while the Nexus 10 lacks mobile broadband - but can be tethered to a smartphone.

Finally, it also depends on how much one is willing to shallow the pockets! A Nexus 10 is $200 over a 3G unlocked Nexus 7

For a first-timer wanting to explore the pure Android Tablet world, I'd recommend the Nexus 7, while for someone who'd look to use the device as an occasional laptop replacement (read as a productivity device) and as a stunning media consumption device, the Nexus 10 it should be.

Cheers,

Pannags
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] erto90:
Hello,

first of all, i haven't done anything because i'm unable to do it

i'm only sharing what i found in G.Nexus forum

This is really close to the Optimus 4X lockscreen, and i think is very nice!

But we need a developer or a good person who know how to imlement it

have a look here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24811293

Hope someone can do this for our s3!
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] w1nter456:
I think optimus g much better, it looks way cooler than opimus 4x
[Galaxy S III Themes and Apps] erto90:
yes,but is not that diferent, at least,we got something similar, no?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
So google announced the Android 4.2 Jellybean update today and I would like moto to announce when we will get it. I am so tried of being so far behind the os updates. I got a motorola because google owns them. I think they need to work better with google to not leave us behind. I am sure that some custom rom makers will come out with a 4.2 like they have with 4.1 but i am talking about official rom since i dont want to use up my internal storage since bootstrap uses internal storage with is only about half what motorola says since 8gb is only available after whatever...

So I say we start sending 4.2 jellybeans to goolge and moto to show that we want the latest and not have to wait two years as i just hot my phone a few months ago... so now i am stuck on such an outdated os its not funny.

link to jellybean 4.2 http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/29/android-4-2-jelly-bean/

link to google and lg with nexus 4.2 jellybean http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/10/lg-and-google-officially-announces-the-nexus-4/

Ok The XT912 was announced October 2011 and now its 1 year later so I would hope that since its only 12 months later that we would get 4.2 jellybean. But a leaked screenshot said we may not because of time frame support. So if 4.2 is now available we better get it... its not been 18 months yet... If apple can update their phones so quick requardless of cdma / gsm and all why cant google do the same atleast for the base os? then let the carriers turn the custom skin crap into a seperate optional download from the playstore like golauncher golocker gosms and all...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] evonc:
Motorola barely has ICS Stable on the xt910/xt912 so I don't expect to see Jelly Bean officially released from Motorola anytime soon for our phones. They did announce that they will release Jelly Bean for the Verizon versions next year but I would hold that with a grain of salt. They already screwed us over with the bootloader unlocks and the late release of ICS so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to drop the RAZR overall from the Jelly Bean upgrade commitment using a silly reason. There are custom aokp/aosp/cm10 based builds in the development section each with their own bugs and issues. That will probably be your best choice for now if you'd want Jelly Bean running on your phone. Or else just save up some money and plan to pick up a Nexus 4 like me when its available.:p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
the nexus 4 wont be on verizon as it is only hspda and no lte! a nexus with no lte! they said its because of update issues google has with verizon and the galaxy nexus and the control that cdma lte carriers want on their networks. I think now that the nexus line will only be on gsm only. Not sure what google will do when att and tmobile and other gsm carriers drop gsm and go advanced lte with voice over lte. I tried the custom cm10 and akop and love them but i use bluetooth and cant take a call for some reason over bluetooth a lg tone+ model. I also am not to keen on how bootstrap uses my internal storage to use the custom rom. My internal storage even after a full factory reset via droid razr 1.8 tool is 8gb of available internal storage. Other then that the custom roms are awesome but just wish we had true bootloader unlock. Can we use the space of webtop for custom roms with bootstrap?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] evonc:
GSM wont be dropped anytime soon as even though LTE may be gaining popularity, it is still very intensive on battery and requires extra radios. Also not everyone has an LTE phone and since LTE is still only available on certain areas, Your phone runs on hspa when not in an LTE zone. My brother has the s2x and his battery drains faster but he gets roughly the same speeds as me on hspa. Then are are issues with data caps as most people don't have unlimited data plans. Yes LTE is fast but you will rarely notice the difference in speed when doing standard browsing. So imo, lte currently is like paying more (money and battery life) for reaching you're data cap earlier.

In terms of the bootmenu issue, I haven't made the switch from safestrap 2 yet as I'm awaiting a major rom change. Check out the bootmenu thread. I believe someone posted a vold.fstab mod for switching around the storage locations.

Sent from my XT910

Edit*

Article explaining lack of LTE on the Nexus 4 (Credits: AndroidPolice)

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...s-explanation-and-why-it-sort-of-makes-sense/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tm1618:
There is a post from you every single day about this. How old are we here? It's getting a bit annoying. Just enjoy your phone and wait like everyone else.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
I am 41 years young. I can not enjoy my razr until latest 4.2 official rom is officially out for it. I will start a campaign for updated similar to how ape does it. Good handles all operating systems and the makers can have their crap downloaded via play store
[Motorola Droid RAZR] watt9493:
Really? You can't enjoy it? Cause I came from a nexus to a RAZR cause I couldn't get signal anywhere, wifi dropped like a son of a *****, GPS just didn't work, and 4.1 wasn't all it was cracked up to be. 4.1 was flawed. Battery life was ATROCIOUS. I couldn't make it 5-6 hours without swapping batteries, and that's light usage for me. I believe ics is the height of android right now, best balance of performance, function, battery life, and screen on time IMHO. So even though the RAZR is now 2 cycles out, I think its still better

Sent from my DROID RAZR
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
i love lte i can get up to 40megabits or faster in some areas. by my house i get about 15-20 megabits

Battery life is fixed by just using a charger all the time like i do. When I am at home I always have it pluged in even when playing games, watching movies, reading blogs. At work i use bluetooth and plug the phone in and move it around the floor as needed. You are right 4.1 is bad, thats why they have 4.2 jellybean and 5.0 is just about 6 months off. So i want 4.2 today and with in a few weeks i want to see a beta of 5.0 key lime pie as all flag ship phones should come as standard with os updates to the latest os. And its crap that the lg nexus 4 does not have lte... we lambasted the iphone 4 and 4s for not having lte and now a nexus device does not have it.... i heard that their will be many nexus devices so perhaps this nexus 4 will be the low end nexus device and the nexus razr x will be a high end lte phone. I think google saved the best for themselves with moto....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
I have a friend who has a RaZr. And she has GB on it. Beat that.

I don't really know what is up with Google. They just bought Moto. What's the use if LG is going to make your next device and Sammy made your last. What's the point if a company you owe has all its devices still running GB. You don't even care to release an official statement saying it wont come. JB wont come. So that we can deal with it on our own.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
Be nice if we had official bootloader. Unlock fully with kernel flash
[Motorola Droid RAZR] feered:
I wouldn't be so sure just yet... Now that Google owns Moto, policies have changed. No more locked bootloaders (thank god) and more frequent updates to the OS. I would imagine that the next update for our device (both GSM and CDMA) will be packaged (I use that term loosely) with an unlocked bootloader.

The Nexus is a prime example. Despite some Nexus's being older then most of the devices with GB, they are still getting JB updates. I would imagine now that Google owns Moto, you will see more consistent updates to our Moto devices - granted that the Razr is almost a year old. Maybe not as fast as Nexus devices, but we will receive them regardless.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dtrail1:
New thread again? Seriously??? Please do us a favour and close ALL other threads about this topic, because this one here seems to be more serious than your other spam stuff, or just better: Go and get a hobby!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ulybu:
The time necessary for developing a phone is estimated at 1 year, so may be improvements will start soon..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
I should not have to wait a year after a release to get the latest version if it even gets it at all. I say stop the skins, have Google only allow those to be downloaded like how go launcher is download. Android should be stock and no custom dialers contact apps and all
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tm1618:
Sounds like you'd be happier with an iPhone
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
No I phone to expensive and no widgets and apple is evil...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bric10:
Second that.

I was pretty disappointed about the wait for ICS. But that was largely caused by the promisses of an early update made by Motorola when Razr was released, promises that IMHO were made to gain an unfair edge on the SGN released at the same time.

Nobody ever said I'd get JB so for me that'll just be a freebee when and if it arrives ;)

Sendt fra min Nexus 7 med Tapatalk2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
I think we should stop custom skins and have only stock Android.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dtrail1:
You think too much....

XT910 - CM_D-WiZ
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Droaboab:
How would you stop anyone from making custom skins?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
No the manufacturer skins like touchwiz sense ui and all of those. Sammy has custom everything from dialer to contacts to music player. I will only use Google apps whenever I can no more power amp now Google Music...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Droaboab:
Yes, I know that you were referring to skins made by the phone manufacturers; But how would you stop anyone from making such skins?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rezoundness:
Well we could have them as optional download like how I heard android 5.0 may have it. That way Google can push Os updates and then the makers can push app updates for the optional stuff. Not sure cdma carriers will like it as they are natural about firmware... Verizon anyone.... I wonder if Verizon found out you had a custom firmware if they can legally kick you off and or send a forced firmware update to your phone to place it back to stock....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tm1618:
+1 this thread is useless