yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Holds can't last indefinetly they are for a set period of time, usually just a few days. Also, since you didn't get the BO email, it said the holds would be dropped and that accounts will be recharged when they get ready to send one out which could take up to 3 weeks. So you are pretty much in the same boat as the rest of us, just make sure you keep enough money in your account if you don't cancel the order as there is no set time frame for them to send one out. Could be Monday or 3 weeks from Monday, no one knows.
[Nexus 4 General] sickred:
I called Google today since I hadn't gotten any email besides my order confirmation. The rep asked me if I had gotten an email of my order being back ordered. I told him I hadn't gotten that email. He said that my packaged should get processed and shipped by Tuesday. So he said only people that got the back order email should be affected by it. If you haven't gotten that email then your package should still be getting processed. I live in Illinois and made my purchase at like 10:47am. Hope that helps some of you guys
[Nexus 4 General] chrisjcks:
Didn't apple lose $70 billion on the market share after the iPhone 5

Launch?

They made a phone with a larger screen, something he never wanted.

They made an iPad mini, which he never wanted with a poor pixel density screen.

They even released another iPad in quick succession and are creating the fragmentation he never wanted apple to do.

Android has taken over the market share, Samsung is selling a lot more now and bumped up the price of their components to them, their mapping software was basically laughed off whilst new build quality shows paint coming off in a 1/3 of devices, pink camera, high data usage and even more worldwide hatred towards his company.....

I'm sure Steve is turning in his grave, not laughing.

Just saying.
[Nexus 4 General] carloscibrian4:
I'm in the same boat.
[Nexus 4 General] snavid972:
I been waiting all day for response but as I see CSR responses on here Im kinda thinking I might be wasting my time to call them. I got back order email and funds have been put back. what do yall think should I call? I ordered my device at 1149am CST
[Nexus 4 General] shaneydroid:
Though I experienced plenty of anger and frustration when I happened to visit an Apple shop with my son on release day of the iPad mini.

They were out of stock of most models and people were acting as though worldwide food supplies had run out.

Strangely though they seemed to have infinite supplies of the most expensive model.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
That's ridiculous that they drop the hold on backorders but people like me who chose to cancel still have their money pending.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Me too. I made sure they knew how disappointed and angry I was.
[Nexus 4 General] andersensam:
I ordered mine super late (4:43 EST) and the order still shows as "Pending" in both the Google Wallet and bank pages. I'm not sure what to think...
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I would assume your BO'd.
[Nexus 4 General] olearyp:
That's the first order I've seen later than mine! Welcome to limbo. Sit down, relax; we don't know how long you'll be staying so you may as well be comfortable.
[Nexus 4 General] Luxferro:
You ordered about 5 hours too late. Come back in 3 weeks lol :p
[Nexus 4 General] thekooliest:
There is no way Google has processed shipments on a first come first serve basis. He is in limbo just like the rest of us.
[Nexus 4 General] drspine:
I ordered mine @5:44 pm. I got the BO but play store says shipping Nov 15th and charges pending in my bank.
[Nexus 4 General] vita10gy:
The holding of funds and the dropping of funds might have nothing to do with Google. The bank put your money into limbo, Google never had it. Likewise these "refunds" are most likely just the amount of time your particular bank allows the "limboing" of money expiring.

It might be Google, but this can all also happen as solely a function of your bank.

We really need a FAQ.
[Nexus 4 General] dkotoric:
has anyone ordered late and gotten the phone or shipping info

Sent from my HTC One S
[Nexus 4 General] spinkick:
I bet you don't cancel. Also, you think you deserve a free phone?
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
welcome to the 3 week wait, brother
[Nexus 4 General] sarcosis:
I wouldn't buy too much into the market vs. actual performance. It's more about speculation than anything. They lost on the Stock market because they didn't sell enough iPhones. Mind you, they sold a record breaking amount and sold all they could make, and that still wasn't enough. The stock market rewards you for having 40% growth year over year, but after so many quarters, something has to give. It will hit Samsung too. Like i said a fickle beast.
[Nexus 4 General] ross1998:
You guys think there second batch will run out too?

( I missed 1st batch cause google told me that it would start selling at 9am and by the time i ordered it was to late, so then i tried refresh methos for 4 hours and didnt work, Im hoping the 2nd batch wont run out cause its expected to come in 3 weeks and if its expected to run out ill just screw it and get the gn2 or maybe the htc dna since it comes sim unlocked)
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Yeah thats seems to be how things are going. As this was just a toy for me I'm not too upset as I just got a new HTC Rezound back in June through Verizon which is my daily phone. Just hope to get it before Christmas.
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
I hadn't heard any information about my phone shipping (even though it should have shipped on the 15th), So i left a couple nasty reviews on their site, and within an hour I got a confirmation email saying that my phone shipped...coincidence? :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Cyberdan3:
Just setting mine up now :) No headphones...
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Another call since they told me to call back after 3EST. This time a very nice guy told me that my order is not on BO. (I don't think he knows if it is backordered or not. He probably knew as much as we do.) I should wait until Next Tuesday for a tracking number. If I don't get anything by then then I should contact them again.

Basically I think they are trying to push the time back as much as they can. Tuesday? FML. I should never have sold my Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks ago.
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
no one cares.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Ok so google took one week to restock on N7s after it sold out.....does it anybody think the N4 might be the same? We could only hope I guess...
[Nexus 4 General] amdhunter:
No need to be angry at people like that. They go through hell just to make a couple hundred dollars, and that's enough to make them happy. I feel sorry for people who need to sell something at a profit to make a meager living.

They should be pitied more than anything.

I went out to get an iPad mini, but ended up waiting to see if I get lucky and my Nexus arrives Monday evening when I get home from work. If I don't get lucky and it gets sent back to Google, so be it. I'll be home Friday, will they be delivering then?
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
Then I hope they would have received the shipment this weekend. It doesn't make sense they are shipping the phones out the same day as they arrive.
[Nexus 4 General] venturizhou:
I ordered the 8GB at 1PM EST and I got my shipping e-mail today. But my later one 1:30PM EST is in limbo.
[Nexus 4 General] snavid972:
im done....im leaving work, what a very unproductive day ......sold my gs2 2 weeks ago....using a POS nokia t9 text phone ....having smart phone withdrawls ....d**mit ......officially done If I get a tracking this weekend or monday cool, if not oh well on to the waiting list with my POS phone. :( f u googletits
[Nexus 4 General] Gavin S.:
I've got the folks at UPS trying to pull my phone so I can run out there and grab it rather than wait all weekend for them to bring it 5 miles to my house. Hopeful.
[Nexus 4 General] ErikWithNoC:
Do something so stupid? What was stupid about what I did? Calling them? Asking to speak to someone who knows? There's no need to throw insults around. This was only the second time I called them and its not like I'm working 24/7 so I have the time to place a 5-10 min phone call.

They give me a number to call to ask about the status of my order. That phone number has a specific purpose of connecting me with someone who can give me information regarding my order status (at least that's what the prompt say's). If they have no more information then what we do, then why do they even bother having them take calls? It seems to do nothing but 1) Cause more confusion 2) Ruin someone's day and 3) Get nothing solved. Why even bother saying they can give information regarding our order status? They should at least say up front that CS doesn't have any more information then what we already do.

I don't think I did anything stupid with my phone call. I explained my situation, she back tracked on her statement, I asked if there was anybody else I could speak to and she said no. What was stupid about what I did? I appreciate you trying to explain how a call center works, but there's no need to be rude upfront about it. If I receive a number to call for the status of my order, then why would I not call that number to ask about the status of my order? I work for a company that builds and manufacturers motorcycle parts. I deal with taking orders and shipping products. You ship the orders based on the time they come in and if somebody calls about their order I can tell them about it.
[Nexus 4 General] aneftp:
Don't think it mattered which time anyone ordered. We have people ordering 2 hours after it went live and got shipment conformation.

I ordered it at 1135 eastern time am. And still got back ordered. Got email confirmation at 1158am eastern time. Go figure.
[Nexus 4 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Still waiting for mr. ups man. Been on truck for delivery since this morning and my ups window doesn't expire for another hour.. just getting antsi I suppose. Keep looking out the window every 5 minutes hoping to see that ugly brown van :p
[Nexus 4 General] the1onewolf:
:cowboy::o:angel::):(:victory::confused::silly::laugh::mad::highfive::good::fingers-crossed::p:cyclops:;):crying::D:rolleyes::cool::eek:

Same here and I don't even know what the status of my order is :D
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
from where?
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
your most likely not gonna get it... i don't know my status either...
[Nexus 4 General] Ranguvar:
It does matter, it's just not guaranteed.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1994530
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I'm guessing t-mobile. That's what it'd be after tax probably.
[Nexus 4 General] xSunny:
Just called a rep just to ask about there cut of time he said since its very busy there is no cut of time for them and i said i know many places that have cut of times from ups for pick up does google distribution center have one and he said no they do not.. This is the third rep today that told me i should have confirmation number tonight phone no later then tuesday.. So im getting hopeful he said tonight or very early morning so like the 5am emails google's been sending.. Not one different answer all day this guy was nice name is Noel
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
What would make for an interesting survey would be for people whom got BO'd but still received their device and/or got shipping confirmation from either My Choice or Google. Google hasn't been shipping FIFO, more IDGAF, so I don't think it really matters if they got the e-mail or not.
[Nexus 4 General] bgaccord:
Just cancel :( f u Google
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
There I said it...FML and f#*$ Google for getting my hopes up :mad::mad:
[Nexus 4 General] vitsdroid:
im in the same boat, I think the bumper is holding my order up. Wish they just shipped my phone first and then the bumper. I can find any evidence that people that ordered a phone and bumper got it already or got it shipped. I didnt get the back ordered or tracking # email while the rep told me my phone will get shipped tonight.
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
I'm hearing Tuesday as well. Before the launch I knew I most likely wouldn't get it within the week but shipping after 1 weeek??!! This is too much.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Lucky man! Mine is expected to be delivered monday. By the way what do u think of BOPS2?
[Nexus 4 General] ross1998:
I have a feeling the the first and second batch of nexus 4's will have alot of hardware problems cause of lg trying to speed up the process of making the phones, so far confirmed problems are high pitched noise coming from external speaker and the yellow tint on screen( but the yellow tint will most likley fix itself cause its caused by the glue between the screen not fully drying out yet),
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Page 1337. ERMAHGERD.
[Nexus 4 General] stormtroopercs:
that's not it. i didn't order a bumper and i still haven't gotten any type of emails... no back ordered or tracking email...
[Nexus 4 General] Gavin S.:
Thanks for that comforting though.
[Nexus 4 General] xSunny:
After I get the device I'm going to try to get my credit for the 14 bucks 2 day shipping I get it I get it if not then w.e
[Nexus 4 General] Trashville:
the second batch has probably been manufactured by now
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
13370 post on page 1337 couldn't resist

Ninjad :mad;
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
It's enroute from Shanghai.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
The second batch will be a mixed bag. There will be returned ones from the first batch in there as well.
[Nexus 4 General] KevinChaos:
I ordered an 8gb and a bumper and I have a tracking number. It has nothing to do with the bumpers lol everyone is just trying to find excuses now.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
isn't it made in Korea?

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You also ordered an 8 gig. Most of the issues are people who ordered 16.
[Nexus 4 General] ross1998:
actually ur post is 13371:P
[Nexus 4 General] clay_cauley:
UPS delivery window is closed ... no phone tonight.

Fingers crossed for Monday, even though I won't be home to get it :(
[Nexus 4 General] KevinChaos:
The funny thing is, I only ordered an 8gb out of necessity. The 16 would not go through no matter how hard I tried. At this point, I'm glad I gave up and went with the 8 or else I'd probably be on back order.
[Nexus 4 General] the1onewolf:
Ugh. I gotta start listening to classical music from now on.

I keep thinking I hear the faint sound of my doorbell ... nope it's just one beat in my music
[Nexus 4 General] ross1998:
Yeah im kinda happy i missed first batch so now i can see if the phone has any problems before i buy it, if it does ill most likely get the next htc android phone thats gonna come out in future( im fan of htc sense ui)
[Nexus 4 General] leets4uc3:
**** everyone who is not in limbo. this is such BS now.
[Nexus 4 General] drspine:
When did you order?
[Nexus 4 General] Jackasaur:
Work is almost over, and nothing but silence...This is a sad day.:(
[Nexus 4 General] the1onewolf:
Yes it is.

A sad sad sad day indeed.

Evil triumphs.

Uncertainty looms.

A grim future awaits.
[Nexus 4 General] thetacoking2:
I can't stop reading, it's like watching a car crash. Anyone else feel this way?
[Nexus 4 General] 2015Ducatimulti:
yeah I still don`t have any emails from Google about my order, ordered 13th at 11:45.07 go Team Limbo:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
I can agree 100%. I have been following this thread from the beginning.
[Nexus 4 General] karendar:
Man, what's so hard about timezones? Pacific = -3 hours as opposed to eastern, -2 as opposed to Central time, -1 as opposed to Mountain time and SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE for Pacific!

http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Canada/time_zones_in_canada.htm

Google it! You're buying a Google phone, so you know google... RIGHT? ;)
[Nexus 4 General] NeostarNeko:
does paypal cards work on play?
[Nexus 4 General] Simer03:
I'm too excited to think logically man! Lol

Sent from my Nexus Prime
[Nexus 4 General] karendar:
Well I am too, glad I can think logically to help you guys out though. ;) haha. NEXUS FTW! Can't wait to get my first Nexus phone... I'll be all over it as soon as it's available (Which is noon for me!)

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Visa, Mastercard, Amex, Discover... So credit cards only.
[Nexus 4 General] Prom3theu5:
Im not sure buddy... But - the wiki page talks about:

"Shortly after launch, PayPal filed a lawsuit against Google and two former employees of PayPal – Osama Bedier and Stephanie Tilenius. The complaint alleges “misappropriation of trade secrets” and “breach of fiduciary duty.” The lawsuit reveals that Google was negotiating with PayPal for two years to power payments on mobile devices. But just as the deal was about to be signed, Google backed off and instead hired the PayPal executive negotiating the deal, Bedier. The lawsuit notes that Bedier knew all of PayPal’s future plans for mobile payments, as well as an internal detailed analysis of Google’s weaknesses in the area. Not only that, it accuses him of storing “confidential information in locations such as his non-PayPal computers, non-PayPal e-mail account, and an account on the remote computing service called ‘Dropbox.’”

Google has run a competitor to PayPal, Google Checkout, since 2006, which was replaced with Google Wallet."

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wallet#PayPal_lawsuit
[Nexus 4 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Where do you live and why do you get to order it at noon?
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
Guys, the google germany employee just updated his google+, they apparently changed the launch time and it will be german breakfast time and thus around 7 to 9 o'clock german time. That would be around midnight for you guys in the US

https://plus.google.com/101607164549546362845/posts/ZzTRygAhmDD use google translate if you don't take my word for it ;)
[Nexus 4 General] t0ph0id:
Just saw this too, woohoo!

That's 8am UK time. Sweet!
[Nexus 4 General] bpear96:
The paypal card is a Mastercard im pretty sure. Should work
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
just to be safe: i added the 9 o'clock part, it just says breakfast time. could be anywhere between 7 and 9 o'clock german time, just updated my own post. sorry for that.
[Nexus 4 General] Chochiwpg:
That would make perfect sense. If it was 9am German time, that would be exactly Midnight Pacific Time (Where Google is Located). Which means I will be setting my alarm for 2am CST to take advantage of the phone going live on the Play Store. :o:good:
[Nexus 4 General] Guster730:
Berlin is 9 hours ahead of PDT, so if breakfast for them is at 9AM, it'll be midnight PDT. I'll set my alarm lol. Just gonna wake up a little before 3AM EST and jam on F5. Then back to bed.
[Nexus 4 General] wera750:
So that'll be 3am est time woot!
[Nexus 4 General] italia0101:
8 am! sweet, get up at 7 am then !
[Nexus 4 General] Simer03:
Boom....set my alarm for 2 am central time!!!! Oh eff, I hope I don't fall asleep and if I do, I better wake up haha

Sent from my Nexus Prime
[Nexus 4 General] NeostarNeko:
I hope so, got no monies in bank, and paypal is too slow to transfer
[Nexus 4 General] Prom3theu5:
:D

Huh - how much you betting Karma is now going to screw me over and fail my card each time I try Lol

Or even - My O2X will die in the night and I will miss my alarm - and thus be met by the above screen.....

Dammit - I have probably screwed myself, and not in a good way :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Setting my alarm for 3am eastern, hopefully its available then
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
on twitter he says breakfast time is 9 o'clock german time plus/minus half an hour

https://de.twitter.com/frischkopp

in german:

in english:
[Nexus 4 General] A|G:
look here!
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
Everyone getting his/her shipping confirmation tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] emuneee:
LMAO

10 chars
[Nexus 4 General] Zaphodb2002:
Source?
[Nexus 4 General] thetacoking2:
I've stayed up from 2am CST on the 13th until 9. I smoked a cigg at 1035 to calm myself and lost out until getting my order through at 12:07. Until then I've got the dreaded BO email and we'll see where this goes. I've probably wasted more of my time at work reading this then actually working.
[Nexus 4 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
She made it home! :D
[Nexus 4 General] Jackasaur:
Good bye gang, I'm going to go home and sulk. Why hath thou failst me Google!?
[Nexus 4 General] Whitesun00:
This is literally the best way I've heard this who mess put yet! :D
[Nexus 4 General] A|G:
why u no like my meme
[Nexus 4 General] vineet381:
Joining the limbo team, no shipping update, order at 11:34am est 16gb
[Nexus 4 General] ErikWithNoC:
Its okay, were all in denial.
[Nexus 4 General] intern:
People are still asking when did you order, here's the state of play.

Yesterday

Lots of people got BO emails, based on the data collected, they were mostly sent to people who ordered later.

Some shipping emails were sent out in the middle of the night, seemingly randomly, but with a bias to earlier orders.

Some people who signed up for MyUPSChoice got emails before Google sent them.

Today

Lots and lots of people got shipping emails, including some people who got the backorder email yesterday, with delivery dates predicted to be Monday.

The people who got shipping emails yesterday, got their phones.

There were one or two people who didn't get any email from Google or shipping information who also randomly got their phones.

There is no correlation between time and if you got a shipping email, except for an oddly high number of people who ordered in the first few minutes not getting theirs.

As far as I know, there have been no reports of bumpers being received.

Googles CSRs are as clueless as ever, it's not their fault, but most of the information coming from them seems to be trying to string people out for another day or two so the shipping department can catch up. The consensus is that they can't see any more than we can.

Since some people who got the backorder email got shipping emails, it appears that that email doesn't mean you're SOL for the next 3 weeks, it seems to have been Google realising that they're not going to ship everything on time and so were covering their asses.

As of right now, 16:30 PST, it seems as though those of us in limbo will be playing the waiting game until the morning at least, hoping that there's another round of shipping emails like the last two mornings.

Many peoples charges fell off their CC or bank account, this is apparently normal and also happened to a lot of people who got shipping information.

Many people with multi device orders did have them shipped.

Finally, no, standard UPS 2 day shipping does not include Saturday delivery.

Just wanted to get some stuff down for the record, as a catch up to people who might not be up to date with the latest developments. Anything I've missed?
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
Just imagine the hate when Google releases a 32gb Nexus 4. I will go postal.

...
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
My phone comes tomorrow :)!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] thetacoking2:
No one wants to admit the truth, but lest we accept the finality of ol' Googs ineptitude.
[Nexus 4 General] aall034:
F U Google

I just ended up canceling my order, I couldnot deal with the lack of communication and disrespect.

by the way my order time was 8:54 PST, i received a back order email yesterday
[Nexus 4 General] Kamatari+:
I didn't know this phone even exsisted until I stumbled on to this thread.. It looks amazing!
[Nexus 4 General] darkamikaze:
My phone just arrived :) waiting on my sister to get home so we can both open our Nexus devices! (she got the Nexus10)
[Nexus 4 General] lionheart7282:
Originally Posted by kcbboy View Post

isn't it made in Korea?

yes made in Korea finalized in Shanghai.
[Nexus 4 General] ross1998:
lol i think they had less then 10000 phones i personally think they only had like 3000 in US lol
[Nexus 4 General] ErikWithNoC:
...:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Gavin S.:
Aww, that's sweet.
[Nexus 4 General] Geo411m:
Thanks for the recap.