yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
My guess is the resell strategy was born for many after they had their order in. They probably all wanted the phones and then decided that if they were going for this much of a premium i'd rather have the money and wait another month. It's the shortage of phones and fervor of those that got left behind that is creating an emotional impulse to over-spend.

There was someone here yesterday that paid 600 each for 2 off craiglist.. SIX HUNDRED. That's just crazy talk.
[Nexus 4 General] necksis:
I don't know all the guys he got them from, but the ones I do know had the intention of keeping them. They decided to sell them once they saw how much they were going for, and still plan on buying them again once they become available. I'm sure if their original intent was to resell them they would have chosen to buy more than one each.

I'm not trying to defend what they did because it does suck that there are still a lot of people who want them that haven't received them yet, but I also can't fault them for wanting to try and "subsidize" some of the cost by selling them.
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
Very true, I would have no problem paying $600 for the phone is that't how much Google was asking for it.

But I refuse to be extorted no mater how much I want the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] farberstyle:
LL2 here.

Google spends very little on advertising as a company because of fanboys like me who sing their praises to anyone who will listen.

I bought a G1 on launch day in 2008, I have owned Samsung, HTC and Motorola Android phones as well as a Galaxy Tab and Nook Color.

Google has been owning me since I stopped using a PC as my primary computer:

Google knows when im going someplace for the first time (maps)

Google knows who is important in my life (phone, SMS)

Google knows everything that I dont (search)

But whats worst of all is that no matter how much I love Google and need Google in my lofe, Google doesnt need me.

I want so badly to cancel my order, I feel like I am literally losing my religion. On Monday a CSR, "David", told me my phone would arrive Tuesday, David emailed me today saying I am "pending". I cant decide whether I hate or love Google more and its tearing me up inside.

If you need me I will be refreshing this thread.
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
@ G1forfun..

Welcome to limboland again mate, join our limboteam betrayed :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
no kidding, that's baby-town-frolics
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
I got this email way back on 15th
[Nexus 4 General] bigmase521:
My feelings EXACTLY! I've had basically the same experience as you dating back to the Nexus One, and in my eyes, they have failed all of their launches. And that only adds to my frustration in suffering through yet another failed launch!. It has been YEARS since the N1 w/ no phone support debacle, and they still haven't gotten it right.

Sure they've added phone support now; sort of. Sure they are there to speak with you, but they can only see Play/Wallet status which is same exact thing that we can see. Anything else and they have to escalate up to a "specialist". Even the "supervisors on the floor" are in the same position. So basically their job isn't to actually help us, it's to deflect our anger and simply stall us out.

So I ask, what has really changed in 2+ years?
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
You might be right. I saw 2 sell on ebay last night for over $900. You could have ordered two 16gb and kept one for free
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Yeah, this sums it up. Unfortunately I cannot give more than 8 thanks per day. Good summary though. Everything you said about the N7 still pisses me off royally.
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
So what are you guys doing to keep your mind off the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
I haven't abandoned you I'm in it for the long haul I'm just down to four letter words so I'm trying to be nice its not working :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
What the hell is wrong with people shaking their phones? I would never do that on fear of ****ing something up on the inside. Normal ppl never shake their phones so u shouldn't worry about a stupid little rattle
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
looking at other phones...

i wish there was an unlocked t-mobile compatible version of the Droid DNA. I've almost gone into buy the t-mobile version of the galaxy note II but 650 + ~58 in tax ....$708 seems like a lot for a phone.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Drinking care to join the nexus 4 drinking club we use to have quite a few members till they got there phone now just a few of us :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
There is someone in my town selling an 8gb on craigslist for $450.... I want to so bad, but I don't know if I can bring myself to pay $120 more
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
Especially for only 8gb i
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
Everyone in toronto is looking for $500+ for the 8GB and $650+ for the 16GB...
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
be strong! the whole point is that's it's priced well also.
[Nexus 4 General] Leegalaxy:
I just am having a hard time understanding how this whole situatuon is a "betrayal". I'm frustrated too but I don't think you should throw out the baby with the bathwater. It seems that this whole ordering cluster***k is one terrible aspect of an otherwise excellent company.

Maybe I'm in the wrong thread here and I should understand that this is the place to vent your frustration... but you are the one who has a big custom sig with a big butthurt design that's all "We will never forget"...

First world problems at their finest.
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
lets be clear...everything related to a smartphone is a 1st world problem.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
yeah that's the part that would eat at me. knowing I could have had a 16gb and then some for that price.
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
Yeah... if it was a 16gb I'd probably just get it. I actually ordered an 8gb on purpose, figured I could save a few bucks and by switching to T Mobile with 5gb vs ATT that I have now with 2gb, I could manage 8gb and store "in the cloud".

Just curious, if you were in my shoes, what would you pay for that phone locally?
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Thats Canadian money. That's not real money.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I've been thinking about buying a Nexus 7 lately. Ever since my screen broke I've just been waiting for the Nexus 4 and assumed I would have gotten it a few days after it came out. Since that's likely not the case, I may end up buying a Nexus 7 and waiting for the Nexus 4... whenever that is. Am I crazy?

Also, Limbo lvl 3 - All of my information remains the same as it was on day 1. Nov 13th, Complete, Pending on Wallet and no CC charge. 2:15 est order time.
[Nexus 4 General] bleuiko:
HEY GUYS, I'm back!!!!! UPS lost my overnight package. I think I'm not the only one as I've read about at least one more person here who has theirs lost/stolen.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
Your delivery driver took it. Straight up. Go Compton on his behind. You're from Cali
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
related...I'm trying out Simple Mobile 4G (t-mobile reseller) unlimited this month. happy to post about how it goes.

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I wish we could still say that :(

...curse you monetary debasement through reckless fed action!
[Nexus 4 General] KonstantinKeller:
I agree :P I guess someone who is very VERY OCD would notice it and be bothered haha.
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Carrying on with our lives. What about you?
[Nexus 4 General] bleuiko:
I'm thinking mine is probably on CL or Ebay by now... Google is supposed to send me a replacement, but who knows when that'll come. On the other hand, Google didn't forget to charge my CC though. Technology, right?
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Let us know if you get a replacement quick that means Google still has phones :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] deestroi66:
Chicago.
[Nexus 4 General] donkeyhitman:
Um...technically if an American was paying for these phones in American dollars, it wouldn't be enough with the current exchange rate. :p
[Nexus 4 General] bleuiko:
I'll definitely keep you guys posted. As of now, there is no word on when the replacement will come or if the replacement process has even begun.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Man, you may be right but you ordered over 3 hours after most of us. I'm sure it was out of stock for real by then. Doesn't really matter, I'll bet we either get them trickling in air freight every Monday, or that we will just get all of our orders around the beginning of December when that big next boat shipment hits.
[Nexus 4 General] intekmdma:
Good laugh. Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
well done. No more thanks to give today.

This thread delivers the lulz.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
I don't know about you guys but I want a Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
@Bleu: Oh my :( hope you get your replacement soon

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
I want a hot millionaire blonde woman who loves to perform oral sex and deliver cold beers, but I would settle for a Nexus 4 (for now)
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
I'd cancel my order if I could find something of better value. So, nah, I'm good for the next week.
[Nexus 4 General] Raptor5150:
I could so go for a copy of Far cry 3 for christmas on steam.. sigh.. stupid nexus 4 money v_v
[Nexus 4 General] mws17:
Limbo 2 here as well. maybe we can get a shipment on Tuesday? I think we are done for the week because of the holiday.
[Nexus 4 General] clay_cauley:
Keep the faith!
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
If you take a quick look at the calender it really looks like the bulk of the phones won't get to people until Dec. 4-5.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
The craiglist sellers popping up for $500-$530 for a 16gb are looking really good right now. I'm trying hard to resist.
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
I guess I have a little more faith in Google than the rest. I anticipate receiving my phone sooner than later. Quoted from the original email:

"within three weeks" not IN three weeks

CSRs are stupid people left in the dark. Google cant commit to a date because they are at the mercy of the fufillment contractor, UPS Supply Chain Solutions. There could be pallets of phones that arrived today, but the fufillment center is filling orders for a different company and may get to the Nexus stock on Friday or Monday :)

They would be dumb not to have stock for a Black Friday sale!
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
Sorry this is a late reply.. but no I'm LL3 but I feel bad for the early LL2 orders. I feel lucky that I got an order in on time and I don't have to fight to order one next round (hopefully the backorders are resolved FIRST).
[Nexus 4 General] pitchshifter:
eh..try and hold out...after thanksgiving the month will be over before you know it and you've already waited more than week. Save the 100 bucks and get Qi wireless charging dock.
[Nexus 4 General] sparky4017:
Could that be the UPS lady :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Wow ... lost after it was out for delivery :( sorry to hear that
[Nexus 4 General] G1ForFun:
Lol I am glad I found this thread to share my story..this thread is full of laughs.:D

I feel bad for the person who had their phone lost when it was out for delivery....talk about getting your hopes up and then tearing down your hopes and dreams. Haha will maybe not that bad. :silly:

Not to mention, I would have probably taken a PTO day if I knew it was out for delivery that morning.... I hope you get your replacement very soon because I would be livid.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Also those re-sellers will get their credit card bills and the phones will start to come down in price.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
the seller that really pisses me off is the one that has 10 of them going for over 600!!!
[Nexus 4 General] @rbiter:
We should all send pictures to higher ups of Nokia lumia 920's or iphone5's. Better yet Nokia communicator's. :p

...
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
I just read that the iPhone 5 sold six million units in the first weekend.

This makes the claim of 17,000 units for the United States even that much more unlikely.

Also, when I think about it, "UPS Guy" called us "The States". No one in the US would ever call it that.

In short, UPS Guy:

Carry on.
[Nexus 4 General] nomisr:
Well, this is nice, I'm told that I'm on BO and they gave me some BS about probably some delay in their system getting the order because of all the order coming in which is why people ordering 30 mins after me already got their phones while mine is on back order and they're first come first serve. Right....

Good job Google... way to ruin my first attempt at the pure google experience. It sucks...
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Any new shipping info ?

The phone is great. I ordered a best skin ever this morning and already got shipping info lol Google is failing so hard
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
Go get you the GN2 and If that's too big get the HTC One X+.. This phone is not worth 2-3 weeks wait;););)
[Nexus 4 General] PaisanNYC:
I knew the guy was a phony. I called him a troll right after he posted. No way in hell they only had 17,000 in stock.
[Nexus 4 General] fresh_TD:
That driver is now rocking a new nexus 4...lol
[Nexus 4 General] bigmase521:
Good timing for you. I ordered my BSE on the 11th and got nothing. Email support.. no word. Then i get a notification that it shipped out today (along w/ everyone else's I imagine). THEN I finally get a vague response from support an hour AFTER my shipping notification. Double Limbo?! :eek: Annoying but doesn't matter since I can't put it on anything anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
I'm gonna call the CSR right now and see what BS they can come up with. I'm pretty friggin bored, if you can't tell.
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
Let us know why scripted response they give this time lol
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Thanks for the update! I've been checking best skins and it's been pre-order. I just placed my order. Should help with the grip.
[Nexus 4 General] pertelotte:
Go get em enviii. Throw in general questions that they oughta know just to **** with em. Like does the phone come with a sim card? Or if the phone requires assembly.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Yeah he told me nothing new. Said it was a 3 week wait, then I told him shouldn't it be 2 weeks now since the e-mail went out a week ago. He's like yeah it should be within 2 weeks and he doesn't think any shipments are going out over the next few days.
[Nexus 4 General] Clayfree:
Cool, can't wait to hear the latest story.
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Lol too late. I was on hold for less than 30 seconds lol. I guess people gave up on badgering CSR for answers.
[Nexus 4 General] pertelotte:
You wanna talk too late? I got a phone you can buy. Check out play.google.com :p
[Nexus 4 General] kefloxin:
The bumper is already in the accessories section, so I'm assuming they put it there to release at the same time as the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] ET3RNA4:
wtf
[Nexus 4 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
pretty cool..

but we have privacy screen protectors btw
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
That's pretty epic

lol

Sent from my Maguro
[Nexus 4 General] leighk91:
The bumper was available for Australians today so I assume it will be the same worldwide. However it sold out just as quickly as the phone did.
[Nexus 4 General] mattlgroff:
Someone might hate me for this, but my banner is finally gone in California ;)
[Nexus 4 General] aSquard:
Prolly beat me to it, BUT anyone notice they removed the "Available for purchase on 11.13.2012" --- almost time to order!!!
[Nexus 4 General] knotjeff:
hahahaha...amen brother...central time indeed
[Nexus 4 General] GrandMstrBud:
Banner removed
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Banner still here in New York
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees3511:
mine too!
[Nexus 4 General] Mr. Droid:
Did do in Toronto
[Nexus 4 General] lpasq:
Call me nuts but I don't want to risk adding a bumper or any accessories to a N4 order so as not risk a delayed fulfillment of the order if an accessory runs out of stock or is sourced from a location other than the N4's stock warehouse.
[Nexus 4 General] klin1344:
Well this thread has been a fun read. It will be sure to keep me from falling asleep while waiting for midnight :p
[Nexus 4 General] irishrally:
Oh man, you planted the seed.
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
There was an issue with the N7 and the cases. I already planned on ordering separately.
[Nexus 4 General] ugotproblemz:
banner gone from NYC
[Nexus 4 General] HB_Mosh:
Please, there are over 10 pages talking about the banner. It comes and goes ! Log in, log out, change language, whatever!
[Nexus 4 General] koodiifin:
My "Available on Tuesday... etc." banner disapeared about an hour ago. In BC Canada. PST time! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA
[Nexus 4 General] stenzor:
nope, nobody noticed, thanks for letting us know
[Nexus 4 General] mafiaboy01:
I guess its another night of the drinking club...
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
Yeah, but honestly, it was sold out so frakkin quick I didn't have any number to reference it to before I read the 6m figure. That with trying to give people the benefit of the doubt, and wanting the "insider" knowledge to be from an actual insider clouded my judgement. I guess I always knew it was a troll too, because that post was the first thing that came to mind when I read six million units of de apple.

On eBay. Best free up some spendable cash for BF. Tis the season to be Merry.

Yeah, ultimately the price/value is what's keeping me in the game. So I guess it is nice to know I don't have to do this bull**** F5 dance to see when it becomes available again, then F5 again to order, only to come here to find all the Limbo Levels have been restocked just as the phones have been. There is no reason to believe the second wave of this launch will be any less disastrous.

:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] MadWhips:
I have started in earnest! Cheers fellow L3ers and friends!!!
[Nexus 4 General] condor7272:
what time

Do you have pending in play store?
[Nexus 4 General] AtharulTech:
looks like you're wrong buddy. current exchange rates between the two 1 US dollar = 0.9966 Canadian dollars, looooooooooool canadian dollar is worth more, and even after all that, nexus 4 was cheaper in USA at 299, we were at 309 for 8gb
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
That was posted 2 days ago. On the 19th. There's nothing coming for us backordered people for weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] jvanassche:
If you think the volume of the Nexus 4 launch is in any way comparable to the launch of a new iPhone, you are deluding yourself.

Look at the numbers for the Nexus 7 for a bit of a better comparison. Google originally only predicted a demand of about 3 million units over half a year, including the holiday season. Due to high demand, they upped that to 5 million units.

That was for a device that they actually marketed, and was in a high selling market segment with little competition. The Nexus 4 is in a much, much more competitive market, competing in an unusual fashion within in, and has had next to no marketing. If you think Google had even 1/10th the stock available for launch compared to a typical Apple launch, you're still being way, way too optimistic.

Even a major flagship Android phone that's being heavily marketed and actively pushed by carriers can't match the demand, and thus production rate, for an iPhone. Believing the Nexus 4 comes anywhere close is a delusional fantasy.
[Nexus 4 General] klownkillah:
Finally got my N4

Order placed November 13th @ 8:33:42 AM PST

Tracking Info received November 19th @ 5:34 PM PST

--> delivery was upgraded to: Next Day Air shipment

Delivery was delayed in Oakland for 24 hours and was delivered today; November 21st @ 10:21 AM PST

Because delivery fell outside of the 3-5 business day window, Google refunded the 13.99 shipping charges.

I did not get a free bumper :(
[Nexus 4 General] Ibsonic:
Its like, every1 is getting the same mail.. I think there is a BOT doing the mail stuff ^^ :cyclops:

Google now !
[Nexus 4 General] Illusion81:
Just got mine today!!!
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
It just so happens I have one for sale.. It "fell off a truck".. :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] surferdude73:
You've confused me with someone that gives a f**k.

All I was saying is that 17k units is a number that someone pulled out of their asshole.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I asked for steam gift cards for Xmas, so I'm going to wait for the Dec 20 - Jan 4 sale..
[Nexus 4 General] NexusIncarnate:
I'm out guys. I was stuck with a regular cell phone. Couldn't take it any longer. Found a t-mobile store that had one left and bought one there. I'm going to cancel the 2 year contract for $200, and Its only going to cost me less than $20 more than the play store +shipping and tax.

Good luck! Was level 3.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
You are wrong there. There is no way T-Mobile is going to let you get that phone for a total of 399. They are going to charge you 200 + difference for the off contract price for the phone which I think is another 300 on top of that. Enjoy your $699 phone.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
We should all start working as UPS drivers and ship the phone right to our home. No middleman, no bull****

:)
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
My N4 was delivered earlier today and google charged my card a few minutes ago. XD

Just throwing that out there ~
[Nexus 4 General] ratm183:
My CC had my old billing address when I put the order in. I updated it, then emailed customer support yesterday to make sure the change wouldn't affect the order.Here's the response I got 32 hours later....

(had to change the links since I'm under 10 posts)

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LL3

My order went in at 12:52:41 PM EST on 11/13/2012

Received email reciept at 1:10 PM EST on 11/13/2012

Received the BO email 3:06 PM EST 11/15/2012

Shipping status changed from 11/15/2012 to Pending on 11/20.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Uhhh. No ducking way.. I'll buy a nexus for 5k before I ever to that.
[Nexus 4 General] MauriceZ:
Its a one day hit and run. Get the phone and quit the job :)
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Darn man... I'm done drinking for the night... started after I got off work. Would rather savor the beer and buzz than sleep like crap. As I posted earlier... Ayinger Weizenbock (7.1%), Boulevard Double-wide IPA (8.5%), and finished with Oskar Blue's Ten Fidy Imperial Stout (10.5%)... nice and toasty. Coming off of it now, but feel pretty good with some water and my e-cig. Just put the kids to bed. Should be a good night with no work the next 5 days... well barring not having a Nexus 4. :cowboy:

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Why don't you just do their value plan? If you are getting Nexus devices or unlocked phones (as I do), then it makes the most sense. Family plan or not it comes out to $60 a month for UNLIMITED talk, text, and web (capped at about 9999.9GB a month :cool:) with a discount. Without it comes out to around 60 or 70 a month. There are discounts for almost everything and they all equate to about 15% off your bill. I pay $122 a month for two lines of the same service. You don't get tethering, but not a problem as any android device using a Nexus for tethering doesn't trigger it, and you can get around it on your PC if you really need it using a Linux Chrome user agent plug in. I normally never tether unless it's to a tablet, but last week my router died, and it was the only avenue I had until I could buy another.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
So if I cancel my order then go buy an unopened onr from someone on craigslist how does the whole warranty citation work. Like what if I needed to return or exchange it am I **** out of luck. Or does it matter after I open it and go online or send some type of card in the box.

Sent from my Gs2 Skyrocket iPhone Killer!!!
[Nexus 4 General] NexusIncarnate:
Not true. I'm not on a value plan. I read through the full contract and talked to the guy at the store and read the terms and conditions online.
[Nexus 4 General] Illusion81:
Sucks bro