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[Nexus 4 General] glennj99:
I think I will stick with my Verizon Galaxy Nexus and unlimited LTE data and 32 gigs built in for now. I suspect it will eventually get a 4.2 update. Things that would be nice are better battery life and VoLTE, and if a Nexus phone comes out with those I'll probably upgrade then.

Where I live currently, in the USA, Verizon provides excellent network coverage, and with 4G covering a large percentage of the areas I live in and travel to and 3G covering the rest. Sometimes that is really useful to me when I am working.

Verizon users cannot buy this phone, and that is a big chunk of the USA cell market Google just dropped. I understand the decision but think it might prove to be a mistake.
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
Selling my S2 (currently can trade in for £140) and getting 16GB Nexus 4. £279 is such good value for those specs!
[Nexus 4 General] sageandonion:
Hell yes! At the price of 279 English pounds its a no brainer. Get a sim only deal on top and happy days. Will save a **** load of cash and not be tied to a bill**** 24 month contract. Yay:D
[Nexus 4 General] ncvikingx97:
Huge bummer. I hope that make one for Verizon
[Nexus 4 General] adamski123:
+mudaf**kin1 !!!! ;)

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sent from either my one x or nexus 7. If anybody is selling or trading a note 2 then pm me :D
[Nexus 4 General] supercakefish:
Why isn't Google offering pre-orders on the Play Store? :(
[Nexus 4 General] taodan:
Why is it a mistake? The phone is unlocked and can be used with any GSM carrier. And outside the USA, almost all phones sold use GSM frequency.
[Nexus 4 General] a1exander:
Does anyone know around how much it will cost in sweden? :) Or can you import it? Where?
[Nexus 4 General] james300:
sure, im going to buy it
[Nexus 4 General] nibrwr:
Nope. That's a Samsung thing. IPS+ is beautiful
[Nexus 4 General] snowmanwithahat:
Definitely will be buying it... probably going with a new contract on ATT through my work and then picking up the Nexus 4 out of pocket and swapping the SIM.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Does anyone know if the Play Store will be the only authorized distributor? I really want to pre-order from Amazon instead of Google.
[Nexus 4 General] stwaltemyer:
LTE is not a dealbreaker, don't worry about it people.

Seriously? I can't believe all the people complaining online about the Nexus 4 having no LTE. Depending on where you are, most people are at least going to have HSPA+ available.

Tell me, what experience are you losing by surfing the web and streaming from the cloud with ~4 Mbps instead of ~11 Mbps? Sure, 11 Mbps is technically almost 3 times faster...Technically. But where are you seeing that performance bump? First, yes, 4G gives you faster download speeds...but how big are these files you're downloading? And secondly, the real strength of 4G is that it gives carriers more bandwidth, which means more users - but beside the increased dl speed, users are not going to see or experience the difference.

A typical video streaming application like Netflix requires a minimum bandwidth of 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ can handle that no problem. Skype video calling in HD is recommended also at 1.5 Mbps. Again, HSPA+ will do this fine.

Listen up people... The lack of LTE does

not

have to be a deal breaker for you.
[Nexus 4 General] smubob:
Who needs LTE :)

Im getting one!
[Nexus 4 General] ncvikingx97:
Without lte Verizon will probably not get it . That is why it sucks for me
[Nexus 4 General] bfspider:
looks like el goog updated the spec sheet to include 42Mbps

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/goog...ore-page-to-include-hspa-42mbps-connectivity/

seems to solve that problem
[Nexus 4 General] K Rich:
Looking for some opinions here. I have an international Galaxy S3, unfortunately I can't sell it as its my only phone right now (unless someone wants to gift me a cheap Android :D), what do you guys think I'd be able to get for it after I get my N4 (which I'll order on release day)? I'm certain the price will drop on XDA, as people here are "in the know" about the N4, but is the price on craigslist going to drop much? I'd be fine with getting enough for my GS3 to cover costs on the N4.
[Nexus 4 General] Drzfr3shboialex:
Hopefully the white version is available at launch.
[Nexus 4 General] shadehh:
So this will be hitting germany on the 13th of november? I live in austria, i hope ordering it from germany shouldn't be too difficult. One thing i know for sure is that i'll end up having to pay transport cost, BUT I WANT IT NOW! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] GiantJay:
I think I'm going to pay the $200 etf from Sprint and get this and go to T-Mobile month to month. If I don't like it I will try Straight Talk.
[Nexus 4 General] AwesomeTurtle:
Has no one told you about the $30 plan? 100 minutes, unlimited text, 5gb of HSPA+ (usual throttling afterward). It's ideal for customers whose primary means of contact is SMS/facebook/what-have-you.

Edit: I should probably mention that it's for new activations only, so you'd have to start service all over again with a new SIM (not a big deal if you plan to port your number).
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Not at all.. I would rather have the IPS LCD. It is much clearer than the pen-tile on the gnex. And as for the black levels, yes the amoled is perfect but present day lcd's aren't far behind. Just my 2 cents

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+1
[Nexus 4 General] The.Penguin:
I'm on T mobile so it's no biggie!

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
pff, really?
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Exactly, going to do the same thing except I have Verizon. Not even going to miss LTE if it saves me $50 a month.
[Nexus 4 General] ste1164:
iPhone 5 obviously it has LTE! :D
[Nexus 4 General] Powereh:
Hi guys,

I be joining in!

S2 is all ready to be sent off for monies & I shall buy outright from the store! Hoping Paranoid Android will make an appearance on this phone & really looking forward to my first stock Android phone, Especially after the Galaxy S2 problems with CM10 etc

Closed hardware ftl.
[Nexus 4 General] jdcnosse:
I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus (even though it's no longer for sale through the play store).
[Nexus 4 General] mibikin:
Going to wait to play with one at Best Buy, probably will sell my old Vivid and pick one of these babies up! Probably around my birthday will get it, so if there's a 32GB out by January, I get a 16GB for less. :)
[Nexus 4 General] ynrozturk:
Times like this I wish I lived in the US. I'll have to get someone to bring one over for me, or pick one up from Germany. I will definitely be getting it though, it will be a nice step up from my ever faithful Galaxy S i9000.
[Nexus 4 General] hiz99:
I'm still on the edge if I want to sell my sgs2 and buy the nexus 4....I'm just worried about the storage
[Nexus 4 General] vidkun.torvald:
Same here.
[Nexus 4 General] manxox:
love it

i love nexus 4 :X
[Nexus 4 General] Red Wolf:
I was worried to so I already started uploading my music to google music lol, and for picture and doc i would use dropbox or G drive. I don't watch much movie on a phone but I use netflix a lot. so if i need to watch a movie I will just transfer it and once i done watching it i would just delete it.

little headache but its oky with me since i am on computer most of the day :cool:

use free could storage but i know you might need unlimited data and battery might drain quickly but we gotta find a way :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] TwinkyOfHope:
I wasn't planning on getting this device, but the price point just makes absolutely irresistible.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Same here...the pricing is very very aggressive..

Was totally thinking about a WP8...but this has got me rethinking...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] Karl:
No Lte... Damn you goooooogle :eek:

i want the nexus 4 but no lte that suxx

oh wait im on Big V so im screwed no nexus 4 for Verizon:crying:
[Nexus 4 General] ijip:
The most seamless way is to use G+ your pix will automatically be saved to the cloud via instant upload if you choose to do so, and you will have access to them seamlessly after you delete them from your phone through the galery. Its really really nice how google intergrated everything. Your other option is dropbox will will also automagically back up your photos. But as far as i know you will not be able to view them in your phones galery after you delete it. you would need to use the dropbox app to view it.

as for the wireless charging puck, let me just say, whatever price google decides to put on it, it will be worth every penny. I have used it on the palm pre and it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. The only negative comments you would ever hear about this are from people who never had access to this tech.
[Nexus 4 General] mazzmoney:
The price sold it o me. I was getting i regardless but i was gonna wait for a price drop (I was expecting the 16gb version to be $450-500 and a price drop to $350 for 16 gb)> Glad its the same price except i dont have to wait. Now I dont have to stick with Sprints crappy 3g for the next few months. Glad it worked out this way.
[Nexus 4 General] expertzero1:
a lot of people were hesitant about the nexus 7 16 gb of space.

Its doing fine lol
[Nexus 4 General] nafpez:
280 quid?!?!?! Mother ****er! bargain of the century! Been following this phone since it was leaked and pretty much thought it would be a little on the expensive side, but alas, Google has made me wanna sh1t in a bag and punch it! (a little 51st State humour for you there)

The specs are astonishing at this price! Being from the UK I really couldnt care less about LTE if im being honest. Really woulda liked to have seen a 32GB version but 16GB i think will be manageable. Slightly more PPI than the HOX. JB 4.2. And wireless charging! I also believe, I either read this or seen on it a video on YouTube (I forget which) that it will come with some sort of charging mat in the box, if thats true then im all over this (I am anyway but with the mat thrown in i feel like Google is giving all us nerds an early xmas present!)

I understand the reason for not including LTE, means Google can keep the phone away from the networks (Carrierrrs if ya American, as Keith Lemon would say) and their disgusting penchent for ruining phones with bull**** bloatware! But I am slightly baffled as to why they choose the meager storage, but then again it could be a case of the old Nexus 7, who knows? All I know is this is the first Nexus phone ive had a hard on for, and im fondling all the way till November 13th, anticipating a fat splurt all over the Play Store. I for one, cannot wait!
[Nexus 4 General] snalfio:
So...the nexus 4 will have a locked bootloader or not?
[Nexus 4 General] HellBunny:
I guess same as all other Nexus devices. Locked by default, but unlockable via a simple adb command.

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I am planing to get the 16GB version, but something may make me regret later.

1. A 32GB version appears not long after.

2. A white version appears not long after.

3. The rumored Nexus 5 based on the HTC Butterfly J appears not long after.
[Nexus 4 General] Capt.PP:
When looking at the leaks photos, I was disappointed but what do you know it was an early prototype. The final design looks pretty nice, I'm selling my current window phone to get it.
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Hell yeah!

Out goes my RaZr ASAP...

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
Will definitely be getting the 16gb version. It hit my requirements: speed, plenty storage & price.

Inductive charging isn't a particular attraction to me,so I won't be using it. It is inconvenient to use the phone whilst charging, it's slower than a cable and most of all, it is inefficient (therefore increased ecological and £ costs).
[Nexus 4 General] Coumodo:
I've got a 32GB sd-Card in my DHD, and when I don't carry my whole musik arround on it (thanks googlemusik:laugh: ), there's only ~2 Gb used.

I think the 8 Gb version is enough for my an I'll can't see a reason to spend 50$ for 8Gb storageroom.

so what do you guys save on your phone that you realy need 16 Gb or more?
[Nexus 4 General] gavze007:
Sure

After two years with desire, I finally found my new phone
[Nexus 4 General] asphaltsally:
Amazing

loved my old school nexus but DUMPING Verizon LTE to get nexus 4. Beautiful phone + T-Mobile no contract = cheap nirvana! :angel:
[Nexus 4 General] Jayyyy812:
Nexus 4

This is a must purchase at £280 for the 16GB model.

Nexus 7

Nice device, probably going to pass though

Nexus 10

Wanted a 10 inch tablet, not got round to buying one yet, may get this one, not looking forward to it as much as the Nexus 4 though

Comments

Looking forward to replacing my Xperia Play as its battery is showing its age.

Have been looking at the Samsung Galaxy S3 for months with longing eyes knowing if I waited for the new nexus I wouldn't be disappointed and with the price, google has delivered, shame on no SD Card slot of LTE but I can live with that.
[Nexus 4 General] thehunt33r:
Nexus 4 16gb

I'm also sure of getting it as soon as possible ^^ (maybe in day one :P I'll have to sell my S2 after)
[Nexus 4 General] circleofomega:
Any ideas on pricing in India...and method to buy it?

Sent from my RaZr HD.
[Nexus 4 General] woodardhsd:
If t-mobile had decent coverage in my area I probably would. Their coverage maps don't even show 3G where I live.
[Nexus 4 General] Notorious544d:
I'll probably be picking this up as well and cook a similar ROM to the one on the Atrix :fingers-crossed:

At £239, it's just ridiculous!
[Nexus 4 General] kiy0shix24:
Haha awesome! Your work on the atrix was epic btw.
[Nexus 4 General] toZeMTL:
Ive been waiting for the new Nexus since I cracked my GNex screen. I was getting impatient and was about to grab a Note 2 the same day Nexus 4 was announced. Im scared of owning an LG but the fact that its a Nexus gives me confidence
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
T-Mobile sucks where I am too, literally no "4G" in Maine unless you are in a very limited area of Portland
[Nexus 4 General] androidindian:
Selling my note and getting the nexus 4. Bye bye exynos!!
[Nexus 4 General] MewRai95:
Most definitely! LTE isn't a big deal for me really, plus it just uses up the data plan faster and its not me paying for that so yeah.
[Nexus 4 General] ijustwantmydock:
Selling my rezound for around $200 and selling my ps3 for whatever I can get and switching to t-mobile. So stoked for this.
[Nexus 4 General] arzbhatia:
You and me are in the same situation! I also broke my Nexus's screen, it's gone for repair and coming on the 5th. I also couldn't decide between the Note 2 and the Nexus 4. I just love my Gnex's AMOLED and I don't know if I want to sell it for the Nexus 4 - The black levels won't be as good as on AMOLED. And the note 2 is TOO expensive.
[Nexus 4 General] twistedh:
Have a one x atm since release day and bored of it now, need something new.

Pre ordered the nexus 4 from Three Denmark and you get the wireless charging orb for free :D looking forward to getting it!
[Nexus 4 General] coversnail:
I think I'd like to handle one in store before actually buying, I'm not sure quite how "bling" the back of the phone looks, if its too sparkly it'd be offputting. Gorilla Glass front and back is a bit concerning too as I am pretty clumsy and no matter what they say glass does have a tendancy to break.
[Nexus 4 General] Mahdi786:
Hi guys, just sold my Xperia T for £300, stupid thing I got it from T-Mobile and ended up with locked bootloader, I'm never going to buy a phone from a carrier company again, I'm waiting for Nov 13th now :D

Edit: you guys want to be careful buying it from a carrier company, it might come with a locked bootloader.
[Nexus 4 General] azlemad:
definitely buying one.. I was going to buy a new gNex this week for my bf, because he ruined his Nexus S. Until I saw the price of this...

So I already gave him MY gnex and I will be ordering this as soon as it becomes available. Can't wait =)
[Nexus 4 General] 96traxx:
If you decide to purchase this, you won't be sorry. The phone is not as big & awkward as some ppl think. It's the perfect fit for me coming from a 4.3 in screen. The back is not as "sparkly" as you would think either. I'm definitely getting this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] squarooticus:
The lack of AMOLED kills this one for me: I prefer dark themes, and the glow from LCD screens (as well as the wasted battery backlighting a display that is mostly black) irritates the hell out of me. (I have the original AMOLED tablet, the Galaxy Tab 7.7, which I use for reading in the dark: it's the best e-reader I have ever encountered when rendering gray-on-black in a dark room.) The color saturation, black level, and contrast of AMOLED, as well as its ability to be read outside on a bright, sunny day without having to squint at the phone is now a requirement for me. I'm open to newer technologies, but downgrading to LCD isn't an option for me unless someone can make an LCD that is demonstrably as good as AMOLED, something I have yet to see.

The only downside I see to existing AMOLED displays is the unrealistic color reproduction, something that I care about in a laptop or desktop display but not in a phone whose primary use is as a portable computing device, not as something I do (e.g.) photo editing on.

I'm curious to hear what others think of the display in this phone, especially if you're coming from an AMOLED device.
[Nexus 4 General] monkey28rb:
I am sorry but AMOLED is horrible in direct sunlight..... I had the s3 and now the iPhone 5. The screen quality on the iPhone 5 blows away the S3. Blacks are very dark on the iPhone 5. From my reading the Nexus4 uses the same display technology as the iPhone 5, which makes it superior to AMOLED.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
LG made the iPhone5 screen. Here is proof of that.........

http://bgr.com/2012/08/23/iphone-5-display-production-lg/
[Nexus 4 General] squarooticus:
Really? My experience with color phones was that they were nigh-on unusable outdoors (from the Sony Ericsson T610 all the way through my T-Mo G1) until my first AMOLED phone (GS), where I was blown away by its usability outdoors. I admit to not having seen an iPhone 5 under those conditions, mostly because it hasn't been sunny around here since it was released. :) I'll definitely compare. Believe me: I'm open to changing my opinion. I would like to think this is not a downgrade.
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
My N1 is horrible in sunlight, I didnt even know a phone could be good outside till I saw an LCD screen, they are very nice for sunny environments.
[Nexus 4 General] trell959:
Officially getting it :D but it's sad to see my Note go :(
[Nexus 4 General] NICEGYPT:
I just sold my GS3 for 500$. Just to get Nexus 4. Can't wait :D
[Nexus 4 General] asprillon:
yeees amazing N4
[Nexus 4 General] sahil kaul:
I'm getting this for me and my sister... Cant wait for it... It's like I've used my nexus s forever.. And wow this forum is already speeding up so fast... I wonder what would happen if I waited 2 days after the booking starts.. Well no that won't happen. I really want this phone just can't wait for it.... :D
[Nexus 4 General] VictorNYC:
That's incorrect dude ... They are the Exact Same Phone ... Google Play Store had a typo that now has been fixed ... The all are HSPA+ 42

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Oh yeah ! I forgot about that ! That does gives me a little more confidence on the LG screen since the screen on iPhone 5 it's pretty good
[Nexus 4 General] ctfrommn:
If LG does one thing well it's make LCD screens/tv's/monitors.
[Nexus 4 General] VictorNYC:
I completely agree, all the LG OG reviews stated how great of a phone it is in spite of its crappy software so having pure google on it would pretty much solve all that ...
[Nexus 4 General] mmm.waffles:
I never thought I'd hear someone say AMOLED looks good outdoors. That was one of the biggest disappointments when I got a Galaxy S phone - unless you crank the brightness to max it's nearlyl unreadable when all my phones in the past were half decent in the sun. I would totally trade some black levels for not having to shield a phone from the sun to barely be able to read a message.

Anyone else in the same boat as me? I'm nearing the end of my contract / close to HUP and can't decide on resigning for 3 yrs (rogers), grabbing an SGS3 and selling it to fund this or just ride out the plan month to month on this for now? I'm thinking either the sgs3 or nexus 4 would be a massive improvement over the original galaxy s (captivate on 4.1.2 aokp build 4)

I hope the charging dock is well priced and actually released within a reasonable time frame of the phone. The phone looks great and I don't see much need anymore for tons of storage. The price was really surprising and seems to show that they really want people to dive into an emerging market (taking positive cues from Apple in a sense).
[Nexus 4 General] tyraelasd:
I think the same way, Im so tired of being unable to see my screen properly on outdoors becouse of the super amoled screen. This one of the main reasons alongside with the price to upgrade.
[Nexus 4 General] dcarpenter85:
Good riddance Atrix 4G and #motofail. Hello Nexus 4 ;)
[Nexus 4 General] nafpez:
Yeah I understand the novelty of wireless charging isnt for some people, but its something I will definitely find convenient! Still cannot believe the price of this phone, I really dont care if Google are losing money on it, lets be honest, they can afford it! We all get an amazing phone at an even better price!
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
Probably not, my galaxy nexus will hold me over for another year. Plus I'll still get the latest updates. I could use the improved camera and better battery life though.
[Nexus 4 General] parmend:
No bueno for me . No LTE is no good. I live in the u.s . For a flagship phone it should be on all major carriers in the u.s . Phone looks sweet though . I'm on sprint and get good LTE coverage in my area . Unlimited data is to good to pass up . 300 dollars for a phone is super cheap but I always buy on contract so its usually 200.00 for me .
[Nexus 4 General] scuzzbag87:
This is NOT a U.S flagship this is for most of the world which runs on hspa not lte. If they wanna make a bastardized version then use can get that one but this is meant to run on more carriers than just the U.S
[Nexus 4 General] JuannTwo3:
I'm looking to sell/trade my S3 for a N4. Can I do that in the xda marketplace anymore?
[Nexus 4 General] ingenious247:
This was admittedly a tough decision for me coming from my GS3 running CM10.. I am very pleased with the performance of the GS3 and I am a fan of the Super AMOLED screen.. despite the direct sunlight issue (I hardly ever stand in direct sunlight and use my phone anyway I hate the sun)

I am able to tether my Nexus 7 via CM10 without getting blocked.. and the GS3 is no slouch in ANY way..

However, in the end, the Nexus name is calling to me. I better not be disappointed with the QC on this device, because I am selling my GS3 or giving it to the wifey either way it won't be mine anymore.. when I gave up my GS2 to my Wife and bought the Gnex I was deeply disappointed..

I am hoping this won't turn out to be the same, and frankly the contradicting reviews are puzzling and worrisome.

However I am all in on the 16GB on launch day.. Don't fail me Google..
[Nexus 4 General] sixth_element:
If I buy the Nexus 4 from the Play store and get a Straight Talk T-Mobile SIM, will I be able to get the theoretical 42 Mbps HSPA+ speeds? I'm located in San Francisco btw. I'm just weighing my options, since it's either that or get an LTE equipped phone on my current provider which is AT&T.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
This is unnecessary. And putting an "@" symbol to replace a letter in a curse word is still cursing. This is XDA not FB ..
[Nexus 4 General] PG101:
Enough guys! If you are not getting this device, I suggest you stay out of the forum!

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] kwbr:
Yes, looking forward creating some nice roms for the Nexus 4 :)
[Nexus 4 General] Vanhoud:
Yes as long as your area has HSPA42 your nexus 4 will utilize it