yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
I'm not trying to prove the guy right, but your argument against him isn't compelling.

There is not one person in in this thread, that has received shipping information with an origin of any other place, than Louisville, Kentucky. What other warehouses are phones coming from?
[Nexus 4 General] illmatic90:
This is what I am saying. Maybe Google air shipped our backordered phones to get them to us ASAP, and have a sea shipped a huge shipment of Nexus 4's to sell for the holiday season. Here's to hoping...
[Nexus 4 General] slowpc:
Well sea travel .... yep expecting mine after my birthday now .... damn you google
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
You should compare your profile to his before you pull that report trigger.
[Nexus 4 General] Ainvar:
I was rocking back and forth in the corner in the basement in the dark. I kept telling myself XDA would be back and not be on back order with a pending announcement. But then I knew I had to take the noose from around my neck, step down off the stool, and then take a good long drink of the bottle. I then said screw it and hit refresh and your post was the first post I saw. I knew life would be complete after that!

:)
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
I'm just pissed off they had the nerve to change my order date to Nov 19. When I ordered in the first Fing 30minutes.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
I am not sure why you guys cannot believe the UPS guy, what would it give him by trolling us.

you never know why only 17,000 units came in. maybe lg's fault, maybe google f*cked up but why call the UPS guy a troll. He just answered a question which all of us have been wanting an answer for, why the f*ck up by Google.
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
I don't think I need to. He defended the UPS guy first, and the UPS guy referred to him first. Simple math.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
That's the last updated date.
[Nexus 4 General] GoreTan:
Same here. Not really gonna get ripped off $50 for another 8GBs. Only thing i'll be missing is my local music.

Does anyone actually know the actual usable capacity of the 8GB version? Hopefully it will be 6.5GB or higher....
[Nexus 4 General] kurtcocaine:
They updated the 16gb page.

removed the "Coming soon!

Available for purchase on Tuesday, Nov. 13th"

still on 8gb page
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Very informative post.

Please post more. We can't wait to know more about the banners.
[Nexus 4 General] James.UBC:
any word on when the next batch will arrive?
[Nexus 4 General] hev88:
Nexus 7 with 8 gigs is just under 6 I believe

Sent from my Maguro
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
It's motivation for me to only put a certain amount of music on. I also have things like Skydrive and Dropbox for files and pictures.
[Nexus 4 General] Croptop:
No 4.2 update yet on my N7 as of 2200hrs EST.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
I really really should be studying Bio but the Nexus 4...goddammit google.
[Nexus 4 General] ctowne:
Aren't we all? haha :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] unkn0wnz:
Just reading through this thread makes it easier to stay up to order lol
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
Its 5.42

Note its the very first leak.
[Nexus 4 General] dcarpenter85:
I'm expecting it to go live tomorrow morning around 8-9am Pacific, 11-Noon Eastern. I'll still be f5ing tonight though ;)
[Nexus 4 General] jeeholim:
I can confirm that as well.
[Nexus 4 General] GoreTan:
do you have a source link for that?

thanks
[Nexus 4 General] paper_kiwi:
I can confirm that my command and r keys are getting abused.
[Nexus 4 General] irishrally:
Midnight PST.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
You aren't using an auto refresh plugin? That's embarrassing. :)
[Nexus 4 General] sporez:
Same here....java midterm tomorrow...:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] _guzzler_:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...044981&page=1&ndsp=33&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:87
[Nexus 4 General] GrandMstrBud:
Can I get a wake up call for 1:55am central please?
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
We are all pissed. Really pissed at Google's incompetence. I hope I can make some money off of Google's soon to fail Nexus 5 launch.
[Nexus 4 General] lskeys:
He is full of ****. Google, Lenovo, Dell, Apple would not ship that way. Very "skeptical" of his story. He may know a little or talked to someone who worked at UPS. But with Black Friday and Christmas Holidays coming up, I do not believe him.
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
Some of you guys can be quite ungrateful, really. Okay, we all know that there is a possibility of him being a fake - but wasn't what you guys wanted in the first place was INFORMATION?
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
Do you know what trolling is?

I'm not saying I disbelieve the guy. I'm just saying, it's not like trolling pays money; anybody can do it.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Just saying, the only orders going out being from KY just supports his argument. There might be other phones in other warehouses, accounting for the low numbers in KY, and it's just more of Google ****ing up. I doubt this is the case, and I'm not saying this UPS guy is legit, but it's evidence for his claims.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
If you, as a starving person, were offered food from a complete stranger, wouldn't you be the slightest bit worried that it may be poisoned/rancid?
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
naah ..I am n00b dude ..just learned english yesterday ...
[Nexus 4 General] renegadeMind:
Agree!! Lol!!
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
I never knew they taught english in Miami. WHOAAA
[Nexus 4 General] Roxy:
Yeah - but to call out saying he's a troll and blah blah blah is starting to go overboard.
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
So has anyone got any idea or gustimate on when Limbo 3s will get their phone? Does anyone want to take a wild guess?
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
As has been said before, it's not the order dates that are changing, it's the "last updated" date. It just means that something in your order record was modified on the 19th (along with mine and most everyone else's still here). It may be something as simple as a backorder queue identifier or something, who knows. I'm personally more worried about those who still have an update date of the 13th and whether everything's proper in their orders.

But as with everything else, we really have no idea at all what anything means until we get our shipping notification (and UPS manages to get it on the plane, eh?).
[Nexus 4 General] landola:
I am wondering what Google's response will be, if someone ask "what exactly happened on Nov. 13?" during the annual meeting of stockholders next year....
[Nexus 4 General] Ainvar:
Thanks! I have made a save of this info. I am about 45 minutes from DC but I find myself in a lot of areas of NoVA. When the wife and I can, we make it up to Federal Hill in BMore to hang out with our good bud. So I am sure I can find all the beers above there. I will be trying them out. The wife has found a taste for beers here recently so I am sure she will be trying this out also, even if I dont try all of them I know she more than likely will.

Are you in the DMV area?

Again thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
naah ..only Spanish !
[Nexus 4 General] jvanassche:
For those people trying to discount the 17,000 units number as being unrealistic based on the amount of demand seen here on XDA, remember that when it comes to non-flagship, developer oriented phones like the Nexus, XDA is in no way a representative sample of the rest of the US. People that post here are orders of magnitude more likely to know about and want to buy this phone. Think about the level of advertising for the phone: basically none. The majority of America doesn't know it exists, thus by only reviewing XDA and similar sites for demand signal you greatly overestimate the demand.

Looking at the 10,000 16 GB units, since they sold out in about 25 minutes, that's about 400 phones being sold every minute. Given the amount of checkout errors causing delays, that seems like a reasonable rate of sale.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Bueno
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
I'm a troll? How? In my first statement was meant to be funny, the second - just read his post.

Wow. What I initially thought was a good series of forums turns into a nest of vipers when their toy doesn't arrive...

That was to you irafauser.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] illmatic90:
"Hi all,

I actually work for Google and i can 100% promise you all that you will receive your nexus tomorrow."

Everyone should be grateful of this information? I want to believe this UPS guy but nothing from an official source is pretty much useless at this point.
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
I don't know guys I want a Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
I think you and I are saying the same thing...I think there's a good chance he's legit.

My point was that someone was trying to say he was trolling, because UPS has many warehouses, and the poster only mentioned one as the source for all the phones. Then I said that no one has received tracking info from any other place...only Kentucky, so it is entirely possible that all the shipments are originating from one warehouse.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
WE ARE SOLVING THE RIDDLE
[Nexus 4 General] miasma:
Maybe I am the only one, but the instant I heard "3 weeks" I immediately thought ship (as in actual boat in the water). That said, I have been holding out hope that they would airlift some stock to help cover the interim. Seriously... how much could it cost to airlift a few palates compared to the goodwill that they are losing from their most ardent supporters and earliest adopters? Maybe there are production issues?
[Nexus 4 General] iboj007:
We will quickly take up 50 pages debating whether or not this guy is a troll.
[Nexus 4 General] compuw22c:
And now, at our darkest, this thread is beginning to unravel... :(
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
Absolutely agreed. I think the folks screaming about the 17K number are projecting like nobody's business.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
This is turning into the Nexus Apocalypse.

Fight the Limbo. Fear the Troll.
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
I though that three weeks meant that the retards didn't make enough and they NOW had to start production again.
[Nexus 4 General] cchap07:
I'm in the same boat as you. If I could fully use a DNA or a note 2 on tmobile I would jump ship.

And I too hate feeling like an isheep.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Within 2 to 3 weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Usually warehouses/hubs/DC's are networked. Simple logistics. Just imagine the clog if 1 place handled everything - itd be chaos. Small bits in multiples is a more efficient method. Its take forever to get from on end of the US to the next.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
My guestimate is next week it will ship; prob Thursday.
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
As many people in this thread as are still finding room to take pointless potshots at Apple and "Apple fanboys," I don't think the goodwill lost in this situation will be meaningful. No one is truly taking Google to task for this. It's just being portrayed outside these forums as 'well, another hot new device that's tough to get your hands on.'
[Nexus 4 General] stopswitch:
My guess is it will ship as soon as the play store comes back in stock.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] strobex:
Back from Halo. Apparently there's a UPS guy now?
[Nexus 4 General] androidi10:
Apple sells one million iphones in first 24 hours. All of them get their phones shipped in a timely manner with complete knowledge about every step in the process

Google with its usual immature hardware launches cannot ship a phone that thousands, maximum dozens of thousands, bought

I hope this miss the thanksgiving and the holiday season because they deserve to lose money over all this mess
[Nexus 4 General] JeepoUK:
I was away for a few hours, where did these numbers come from?
[Nexus 4 General] iboj007:
6 pages of debating if hes a fake or not and 4 about beer.

Yup this thread is def. unraveling.
[Nexus 4 General] James BlackHeron:
I'd venture it will be "within 3 weeks" of when the BO email went out.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
No problem, glad I could help out! Not sure what you mean by DMV area... but I'm about an hour and a half from the Baltimore area. In fact, my son has surgery at Walter Reed on Monday, so I'll be in Maryland then. I live about 45 mins west of DC.
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
I'll say there is still time to get some shipping info tonight...
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
just made them up.:good:
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
The world can't end yet. Wait for my game of words with friends to be over first. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] munchy_cool:
this should help and explain the quick overnight shipping

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldport_%28UPS_air_hub%29
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
I doubt Google cares enough to do that. They said 3 weeks for a reason. My respect for Google has gone much down. They're probably more excited about the demand than they care about the people who have to wait to get their phones.
[Nexus 4 General] jvanassche:
That isn't how a production line works. You don't start and stop it to meet demand. You calculate how much demand (units/week, or similar number) you think you will need, then you build your production line to meet that demand. There's not much ability to scale that amount up and down. They've likely been pumping them out steadily since they started, but with such a low-demand product (relative to their other products), it is likely a slow rate of production.

Devices aren't immediately shipped once they are produced, either. They will produce a certain amount, pallet them, and likely make a shipment once a week, or once every two weeks, etc.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Apple have a Chinese slave army. No fair

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
Naive.

You just don't get it. No one here is defending Google cept maybe a few who already received devices. The UPS guy is friends with the other guy who immediately said pirates are stealing iPos 5's. Look at his signature.

You should all take the info with a grain of salt as it is most likely BS. You may all proceed to bash me tomorrow, or next week or w/e.

If the US only got 17k, how many did Australia, England, France, Germany, Ireland, and Spain get? Just think about it for a second.

Going to leave it there. I just wouldn't jump or HUMP to conclusions yet. The only people who know about this are the XDA admins who can check an email or an IP for authenticity.
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
There are over 2100 pages to this thread, hundreds of which are raging. What does "unraveling" even mean in that context?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
What's with all the Ron Paul color effect meme's? :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] emuneee:
The UPS guys story makes sense though. A lot of other companies are in the business of shipping physical products and ship from the country of manufacturer. For example, when you buy an iPhone 5, your tracking starts where its ingested into the shippers network in China.

Google, who is not known for selling and shipping physical goods, chose for whatever reason to ship to KY and farm out the work to UPS Logistics. This makes sense, because up until recently, Google didn't sell many physical products. To be honest, only thing they are doing is reselling products manufactured on their behalf by another company. If Google took ownership of the entire supply chain and manufacturing and had the logistics experience of an Apple or Dell or Lenovo, well, this story might have turned out differently for both parties.

Just trying to inject some logic here. I by no means am an expert however, just offering a bit of insight.
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
I don't know if you've ever been on the inside of one of UPS' hubs, but they don't "clog"...they are almost a symphony of precision in how they operate.

In college, I worked at the hub in Atlanta for almost three years, on three different shifts...17,000 units is a drop in the bucket for a UPS hub. I used to load/unload a few hundred packages an hour by myself.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Somebody put 'where are those Somali pirates when you need them'

I replied 'They're stealing iPhone 5s'

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] bigmase521:
Google:
[Nexus 4 General] XxGioxX:
My status went from estimate shipping Nov 15 to pending

Date still says Nov 13... :confused:

Sent From My HTC One S Like A Boss
[Nexus 4 General] the1onewolf:
YEa I got a similar email around noon today. 8 hours later I don't have anything. C'MON GOOGLE DON'T U DARE FAIL ME AGAIN.
[Nexus 4 General] androidi10:
I really think that the backorders are just few thousands at the most

Why would not google use a plane to deliver them in one day.

Why would they leave us waiting for three weeks until their Titanic arrives
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
If the Droid DNA, Note 2, S3, or One X+ was selling for under $450 I'd be gone.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
I demand more Thanks! This is Thanksgiving (well, near enough), and I'm trying to give thanks in this fast-moving thread, but the MAN doesn't want to let me and tells me I've shaken enough hands today, sonny, come back later! Well I'm going to call in and talk to a CSR about this nightmare! I demand justice! JUSTICE! And free stuff, can't forget the free stuff.

The preceding was brought to you by sheer boredom and having exhausted the daily Thanks allotment. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled topical complaints and arguments with a sidecar of drinking games.
[Nexus 4 General] ryandesu:
And then our packages will get injured and left behind likes yours :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] iboj007:
Sarcasm my fellow limboer.....sarcasm
[Nexus 4 General] Chinese281:
What does it mean when it goes from "Estimate shipping November 15" to "Pending" ?
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
It's all about the cake man. $$$ dough, money, mulaa, cash
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
He's naïve? You can't tell the difference between one poster and another, and you think the guy who said Somali pirates were stealing iPhone 5s was serious.
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
I'm English, I've never been in a UPS hub - I can only go on my own personal logistics experience in DC's/hubs

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] monzttr:
"Hey guys. Woah, Big Gulps, huh? All right! Well, see ya later." -- Lloyd Christmas

I'm depressed.
[Nexus 4 General] abe in space:
It's a comment on post-colonial society. You will meet a mysterious stranger who will change your life. Your lucky numbers are 13, 3, 48, 12, 1.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Better injured than nonexistent, I would think. :D
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
What are you even talking about.. Go read the posts again from the beginning. You aren't making sense. The iPhone 5 comment had nothing to do with the ups one. You need to calm down and stop harassing respected members.
[Nexus 4 General] ammmo:
Naw, I just looked at his sig and his past phones and past posts before that AFTER the UPS guy. You might want to do that.

Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] MonsieurJohnny:
Let's all have a Google+ hangout where we vent our anger.
[Nexus 4 General] miasma:
How long before CSRs start at least saying "2 weeks"?
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
Let's goooooooo.
[Nexus 4 General] zizo79:
What I don't get is that some "ex-limboers" are trying to act like they're cool by trying to tell us to stay cool or "it's just a phone".News Flash, you were in the same boat last night, whining and all that. #justsaying
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
You didn't even get my quote right...

:/

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Quick, someone post a CSR email. We haven't had one for a whole 10 minutes! Must be a new record or something.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] strobex:
Google, I hope you're happy. Look at the chaos you've caused.
[Nexus 4 General] Ainvar:
I hope everything is ok with your son.

DMV is DC, MA, VA area. I work at Belvoir. My buddy in BMore works at the Walter Reed (Bethesda) you speak of. I use to work at the old Walter Reed that was shutdown in DC.It was a really cool place based on the history and everything surrounding it.

I live in Northern VA around Quantico.

My buddy and I are in IT at these sites. The staff there are very dedicated.

I let my wife know about the beers you told me about, she is pretty stoked.
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
Understood.

I can tell you from first hand experience UPS could handle tens of thousands of packages, from a single shipper, and it not even cause a single blip on their daily metrics. There is always some company, shipping a crapload of stuff, every single day.

This is nothing new to them, they've been doing for over 100 years, and they process and deliver about 15 million packages, worldwide, everyday.
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
"Within three weeks". :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] chronus719:
Almost wish Google hadn't taken care of those orders last night. There was a much better community here before that. I think I might revert to alcoholism and drink alone at this rate...

Sent from the Nexus 4 Drinking Club

"It's not drinking alone if it's with people on an internet forum"

Pending Device:

LG Nexus 4 16GB Limbo Level 3
[Nexus 4 General] iucidium:
Does it sound strange that I now want to see inside as UPS hub now? Sounds like an ant colony where the ants wear shorts

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 General] 5knotwinds:
As requested:

Hello 5knotwinds,

Thanks for contacting us. Due to overwhelming demand, your Nexus 4 is on backorder and is expected to ship within three weeks. We’ll send you a notification when your order has shipped and will credit the shipping charges.

To check the status of your order at any time, visit the link below and click “View Order”: https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions

If you would prefer to cancel your order, please reply to this email and our team will assist you. Or you can cancel your order using our online tool. Please follow the instructions found here:

http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423477

We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you again for your order.

Thanks,

Ed

The Google Play Team
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
**** this, I'm going to sleep. I just hope magically my phone shows up tomorrow. Somehow, someway...
[Nexus 4 General] devcurious:
If you're in the logistics industry, not only does it not sound weird, I would recommend it. :)

What you describe, is EXACTLY what it is...strangely enough. LOL
[Nexus 4 General] JNewms:
Don't listen to this guy for the sheer fact that he is a UK fan. Calipari is a cheating scumbag. Hoosiers!

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] idale:
Look at what these lunatics sent me earlier! I mean seriously, what's wrong with them over there? Makes me want to murder a baby Android or something.:mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
Seriously though, will they ever say "2 weeks" or am I gonna have to call on Dec 3rd to hear the CSR say 3 weeks again.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 4 General] mp5cartman:
Limbo 2 still. This sucks, plus the charge has been dropped from my card. Google next time I suggest launching the nexus 5 up ur ass!
[Nexus 4 General] Exel:
The lack of concrete information from Google is so upsetting. It's one thing to not be prepared for a sale and get backordered, understandable. But with as much resources as Google has, they should be able to take care of all the backorders within a week or so. Not "three weeks." Once they get everyones orders right, they can focus on better launching their Nexus again. It doesn't only benefit us, it benefits them as well. I'm sure there's still many people here and all around the world that didn't even get the chance to order that would like to. The faster Google fixes the initial launch mess, the faster they can sell more phones. It's a win-win for them. For the life of me I can't figure out why they're doing things so slow.
[Nexus 4 General] phixional:
Selling 1 Million phones and shipping 1 Million phones are 2 separate issues,

If this statement was true my co worker that pre-ordered a iPhone 5 would not have waited 6 weeks to get his phone.
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
Nah, we'd still buy it. Even after this fiasco and the Nexus 7.