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[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
So if I got this straight... If you get a bumper for Dirty, she will pay you back for the bumper and show you her bumper. Just playing. :)

About tomorrow being a day of reckoning, I agree. If they are telling people who are LL2 that they will receive their devices early Tuesday, then they are sending it out tomorrow, and shipping will arrive a business day or two later because of the UPS holiday. I think it will most likely be a small batch though. I have a bad feeling this will be another week for us who ordered over an hour after sales went live on the 13th. I'm not happy about that, but I've sort of accepted it. Also, I am addicted to this thread!

And how about accessories... or lack thereof for BOTH the N4 and N10? I ordered full protection films from BSE for both the N4 I don't have and the N10 that I do have. Some fools already got shipping emails, while I pre-ordered over a week ago and they haven't sent me crap. Plus, no cases for either device other than the S line generic Hong Kong case for the N4. Cruzerlites are made well, but I didn't like the ridges on the sides of the Gnex versions. They were too bulky and they peeled up my screen protectors. I'm waiting on a bumper along with my N4, but if I decide to go full case, it will be a thin TPU case most likely. I didn't drop my Galaxy Nexus anywhere other than from the leather sofa to the carpet.

I want that touch stone to come out so that I can get a couple, one for the car, one for my room. Would be sweet to have some sort of magnetic wireless charging dock in the car that I wouldn't have to take the case off for. That is my dream!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
"Was" no no.... Once a masshole always a masshole. It's our God given right. It should be embraced and worn as a badge of honor. Massholes are often duplicated and never replicated.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
HAHA NICE.. I was just about to call you guys Massholes... damn Pats fans...
[Nexus 4 General] walloftext:
Wait so LL2s still exist en masse? I only saw 2 or 3 of them and they were confused. One had his order bounced because the credit card was declined and the other two were not sure if they were on BO or not (not that I blame them). I thought all of the LL2s were taken care of.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Well.. I would take the benchmarks with a grain of salt until they do a 4.2 to 4.2 comparison. Perhaps it's a product of the kernel. If you own a Galaxy Nexus, Morphic's Trinity kernels have options to disable or tweak the thermal threshold. If there was some sort of safe spot, or if the software codes more restrictive than the chip itself does, then you could theoretically change that value in the code.

Dirty... sucks that 4.2 is so laggy. I really bet its just because it needs another minor update for bugs. There's nothing other than the camera app that I think would tax the system anymore than run of the mill 4.1. Think about getting the N10! Other than chrome minor hiccups, the thing FLIES! I love the thing!

Mass would be a great place for me if it weren't so liberal :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] chrisvanhorn586:
I really just wish Google would stop pulling my leg with this.
[Nexus 4 General] gallitoreds:
Can u explain what happened to the person that got his order bounced? his credit card was declined so the phone was not shipped to him? was he able to change the payment method or did Google just cancel his order? I think something like this might happen to me, thats why im interested-... tHANKS!
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Uhh,, http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/states/massachusetts

yes.. that was an incumbent senator that got taken down...

And check out the marijuana vote...

Not much else to edit in...

last edit: I apologize,I read "i" not "it". :) Yes.. please stay out of Mass. :)
[Nexus 4 General] walloftext:
Yes well that's just it, he was in limbo so we don't really know what will happen to him. Since he was in lvl 2, he didn't have any email sent to him. All I know is that when the shipping emails were sent on Monday/Tuesday, he did not receive one. He is probably still in limbo too. I am sorry I can't tell you more, but due to the lack of communication on Google's side, no one really knows what is going on.
[Nexus 4 General] miasma:
Wallet site down...

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wallet.google.com
[Nexus 4 General] mengwu:
Wallet works for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Hmm... maybe they are gearing up for Black Friday ish! Or maybe it's just run of the mill maintenance. Regardless, I doubt I'll be able to find anything out until between 10-12 EST as that seems to be when Google opens for business.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
A bumper for my thumper.

I love cruzer lite! I have 4 for my gnex and 5 for my gnote and 1 for my N7. Pre ordered a clear androidified for the N4.... never had screen protector lifting issues. Love them!
[Nexus 4 General] gallitoreds:
Well thanks anyway for taking the time to explain! hope everything goes smoothly when the phones finally ship!
[Nexus 4 General] walloftext:
Wallet.com/manage is up, it is the landing that is down. It is probably the new update to wallet that Google was teasing that they are updating the homepage for.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
I don't engage in political conversation..... But if I did I'd say *raspberry * Keep your republican self where you are :)
[Nexus 4 General] miasma:
https://wallet.google.com/

Bad Request

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[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I think you needed to quote the other post. I would like to formally announce the inaccuracy of the perception of this statement.

I remove my glove and swing it in your general direction! Good day madam!
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
And you're shocked that we scored?? That tryptophan kicking in? Come on..... we are the Patriots!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
Try deleting your cookies.

Something has gone terribly wrong. (speak in British accent)
[Nexus 4 General] miasma:
Is this seriously what this thread has turned into? And are you really afraid of MA becoming too conservative -- way to be welcoming to differing ideologies.
[Nexus 4 General] blkmiles:
Between reading this thread and slickdeals BF stuff yesterday, I found that Best Buy had the Nabi 2 tablets that I wanted to get my kids at el cheapo pricing. When I got to the page to order they were out of stock, dismayed I went back to looking in the slickdeals thread to see if someone was able to do a price match. Someone had mentioned that they were able to F5 the page on Best Buy and get it to come back up to add to cart. At that moment an all too familiar feeling creeped up, like a LL3 has permeated the page and imported their "How to Backorder 101" lesson. I made my way back to the product page and sure enough, it said add to cart. I scooped it up. Order went through. I needed one more for the other rug rat. F5'd like a true LL3'er and got it to come back. Bought that one as well. Got my shipping notice and tracking today for both, ON THANKSGIVING. I should have them Tuesday.

My co-workers were wondering what drugs I was on as I cackled in irony mashing F5. In the end though getting those tablets gives me a temporary boost of confidence to think that we of the LL3 should be getting our beloved N4s next week.

TLDR; Ordered merch from BB like I ordered my N4, but unlike Goog, the BB order went through.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I just dislike them since that Tuck Rule game.. it's not rational, I realize this. I do respect they are a fantastic team though.

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I don't think it's gotten serious, and I agree we should stop. It can only lead to a dark.. dark.. place.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Bhaaaaaahaaaaa! I'm sorry, you're correct, I did in fact quote the wrong post. I retract my statement to hfm.

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Sorry..... Not going there. See what happens when you mention the word politics.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
Works fine for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Daniel.Stevens:
I´m sorry but somewhere along the last few pages (new posters) the thread has lost all it´s informational value... Politics, football, racks, profile pics, general chatting, beer ?!? Really ?!? I´m all for it if people digress once in a while (but stay near the topic) or lighten the mood with some OT but that´s just a little too far and too much.... It´s really not o.k. if you try to find some information and have to click through pages and pages of BS that has nothing to do with anything.... How about opening up a chatroom ?!?
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I think those of us that have been here for a week and a half are just way too comfortable. Done.
[Nexus 4 General] Zurginator:
Speaking of which, why doesn't everyone check out my signature? :D
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
And what kind of Information are you hoping to find on thanksgiving day/night? People seriously need to lighten up. This isn't a professional forum where proper etiquette is a must. You're not going to find any info these last few pages because it's the weekend and there is no info.. At all.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Here's the problem--There's nothing on topic to really talk about. We have no additional information, every damn speculation and theory you can think of has been stated multiple times over the course of the day, getting much more complex as information comes in and it's Thanksgiving. Us LL3s need a release with people that are experiencing the same problems, so why not talk about **** that has no bearing on the topic? We're starting to expect this to be for the long haul and relaxing, making this thread a lot less hostile than earlier in the week. That is, unless new orders get shipped before ours tomorrow, then the pitchforks will be out. Torchforks even.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Yep, I just checked... it's up for me.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
I'm gonna call it quits at 2 AM CST...
[Nexus 4 General] Daniel.Stevens:
The kind of information that is sprinkled between the politics, football, racks, profile pic discussions etc. If you look really hard there are a couple of useful (topic-related) infos/posts/discussions....
[Nexus 4 General] blkmiles:
I envision a pitchfork/flamethrower combo. Must scurry away to build prototype.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
You keep mentioning things that were talked about today, Thanksgiving.... The day nothing is happening. Regardless, point taken. Enjoy finding your info on speculation and conspiracy theories. You didn't have to read it, but you did... Common sense should have told you there isn't going to be info today/tonight. Good night.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
I almost forgot.. fired up my client.. seems dark in there right now. :)
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
We had a guy last night who was going to do the same thing, haven't seen him post today though... wonder why...
[Nexus 4 General] Daniel.Stevens:
I gave an update a couple of pages before that Google in germany was accepting orders for "in stock" N10 32GB on Wednesday. People who ordered those got a shipping confirmation on Thursday and are waiting for the devices to arrive today.

Many people who ordered on the 13th are still waiting for the N10... So Google shipped the new orders first. The post got burried between all the OT.

I just thought it would be useful for you guys to know how google is handling the situation over here so that you can brace yourself for the same sh***t happening...

And I saw a couple of posts between all the OT that were actually quite intresting and on-topic.. But I guess it´s a chat now.. So... I´m out.. Sorry for requesting to stay on topic ;0)
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Daniel.Stevens gets the party pooper award.

What does *raspberry* mean?

This thread is kind of the trash bin of the Nexus 4 general forum anyway. The banter here keeps the moderators from having to delete mass threads on complaints regarding shipping, etc. Maybe this thread should be named "Nexus 4 Shipping Thread... and beer, racks, profile pictures, football, she-males, pitchforks, blue steel, etc" Or just "Nexus 4 Shipping Thread and BEYOND" :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
**** it. Anyone good in math? Composing functions. F(x) g(x) and all
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Sorry man... I did comment on your post. Google made the same stupid choice during the launch of the N7. There were people waiting on pre-orders that didn't go out in the first batch and when new stock popped up, new orders went out first. I don't have any idea why Google would do this. I'm logging on tomorrow at 10 and making sure if it goes "live" that I can get a Nexus 4. Then I'll probably just either refuse shipment or sell it to one of you kind LL3'ers! Hell, it might get back ordered too...
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Raspberry- a certain noise people make with the lips parted and tongue sticking out a bit. :)
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Wooooow that is pretty much exactly what I'm fearing is going to happen... I hadn't seen the post but thank you for sharing. I had a speculative post yesterday as to why it's possible this will happen. They will NOT backorder people that order when the store opens back up because they'd sooner cancel than risk not getting the phone before Christmas. Plus, they gave us a 3 week window that, for the sake of business, they could use up since we've already been warned. Google knows people that are still sticking around are the people who love Google the most and, for the most part, will buy this phone regardless. That dedication to this product might be the cause for some exploitation.

I personally do not believe Google will do this but it's possible because it makes at least a shred of sense from a business perspective.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Ehh... I used to be like over a decade ago. I'm currently doing my wife's math for this master's course shes taking. The math isn't masters level, but she's swamped with 2 other classes, 2 toddlers, and dealing with me and working part time so I'm doing it. I was supposed to have it done earlier this week, but this whole shipping thread happened.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Maybe Google will know :)
[Nexus 4 General] chrisvanhorn586:
My experience with Google is summed up in a little video I made that I'm trying to get to go to viral so Google wakes the **** up.

Youtube... Google Customer Service: Welcome to Hell

Limbo #3 here, by the way.

(I can't post links... XDA won't let me. :confused:)
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
So you're good at this I'm guessing.

F(x) is 1-x g(x) is 2xsquared+5x+2

Multiply and simplify and also divide them
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Raspberry... I gotcha now. Should have known... I wasn't thinking in that sense.

You can bet your butt I'm going to be f5'ing the Play Store at 10am EST tomorrow. Not pulling a 3AM wake up like I did Tuesday, that's just too extreme when I have a 3 year old and a 1 year old waking up between 6-7am.

I swear if I can get a buy tomorrow for another N4 and they don't pull the crap of holding the old orders before the new, I'll just sell the thing here for exact price. Returning/refusing I don't think would help out the LL3'ers

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Dude, if I had the book in front of me I could help you out. There's some cobwebs up there... and I've not finished college yet. Took a military detour. There are several free online scientific calculators online. Some even go step by step if you need help. Sorry :crying:
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
This would be much easier to describe if I were on the computer but let me try. For multiply, factor g(x) then distribute with f(x). If you can, factor again afterwards. For divide, u can't remember without writing it down.
[Nexus 4 General] DLFB:
did anyone call CSR today?

It was my 1st time calling them today and I could hear the fear from his voice. He will be remain unamed ouf of respect. I think the guy's been really hammered by irate customers the past week. God they must hate their jobs right now.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Well being nice to irate people is hard, but honestly why would they care all that much? If I knew Google was just giving me some fool script to feed to people, I would just go with it. Treat it like an act, because that's what it is. I know with how much I talk, that I was keeping a few of them on the line for at least 20 minutes (long drive home in traffic), trying every angle to get them to give me some kind of information.

For what it's worth, I think they do a good job as far as keeping their cool and making you feel like they are honestly trying to help. I hope they get compensated fairly for what they do. Now their handlers... that's a different story. Anyone want to call now and ask about devices going on sale tomorrow?
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
Yeah most of the CSR I've talked to all week have been kind of pleasant and understanding but these past two days you could tell it was waring on them. I think they would actually be valuable members of the pitchfork committee, sleeper agents that we created out of Google's incompetence.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
That's exactly my plan as well.... getting rid of the one that shows up last will be no problem. Would love to help out a ll3! Now 10am is just a guess, right?
[Nexus 4 General] enviii:
How do we recruit them?? We need to offer them something in return. Perhaps peace from us XDA'ers?
[Nexus 4 General] Daniel.Stevens:
Yeah, I couldn´t believe it either but after a couple of people posted it on german boards and after I talked to a friend of mine who ordered Wednesday when it went to "in stock" again I believe it ... She got her shipping notification Thursday and is waiting for the device to arrive today (tracking shows the package to arrive today...)

Just wanted to let you all know so that it´s not such an unexpected punch in the neck if it happens to you too...
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
Thanks. I understood the question right after I posted. I could give a full tutorial if anyone wants. It's a matter of completing the binomials and ****. Sometimes I love math and hate it. For example who the **** invented imaginary numbers? I^2 is - 1. I squared is - 1 but why. Is there any real world use for it? Any math scholars out there?
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
I say 10AM because they opened up at 11:25 or something last time (thats east coast time). If they aren't doing it then, then it will be most likely at 3AM (Midnight PST).

Then again they might not do ANYTHING! Who knows what Google even is thinking at this point. They have a rather original strategy for selling devices.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
This speculation is so wild I don't even know where to begin. There is an edge case of people coming up with crazy stories about how Google is doing this convoluted strategy for something that is a drop in the bucket for their overall revenue targets. They just don't have this whole retail launch thing licked yet and stumble through it. For all the fervor there was on XDA and to a much lesser extent a couple posts on some android and tech web sites, the mind share is very small for this device. Even if Google never ran out of devices to sell I would imagine Samsung's Galaxy line would still have made the Nexus sales look bleak by comaprison. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but that's where things stand at the moment.

If Google wanted the Nexus program to truly break out, there would be an ADD TO CART button for the Nexus 4. And T-Mobile would have stock to sell this weekend.

I hope we do see something happen tomorrow, I am nowhere near holding my breath. I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if there's an ADD TO CART with a 3-5 day shipping time. 3 weeks doesn't count.
[Nexus 4 General] xdviper:
Wait its tonight or tomorrow night? If it's tonight I'm ****ed as I'm at work and doing math problems and ordering through the phone is a *****.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
If it were to come back for purchase tomorrow there's no telling what time it would be but I'm going to check up on it the same time it was released initially which was 10:30 central time for me.
[Nexus 4 General] MadWhips:
I couldn't take it anymore. I drove 60 km to some dude's house and bought one for $440 off Kijiji.

Good Luck everyone! The screen glass is sooo smooth to touch!

I'm still L3 and I'll see when that one gets here!
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Whatever their motives... if they put an "add to cart" option then those devices WILL ship first! I think it's just how their inventory system works. Otherwise they would fall farther and farther back. What would be the more ethical decision is to NOT have that option until they clear out the back orders. But mark my words, if they up an option to buy again tomorrow that will be the case. They always could change it to "pre-order" instead.
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
The reason behind it is to figure out a theoretical number that doesn't exist in the world but exists in mathematical terms. It explains the unexplainable. If you start understanding imaginary numbers, then the previously unfathomable begins to make sense. The idea of light being everywhere at once yet nowhere unless energy dictates its presence because something that bares little expense on your understanding. The concept of a thought is no longer an abstract but an absolution, the theory of a universal oneness is one that is no longer conceptual but a reality. Google selling phones before fulfilling previous orders becomes--wait, that still makes no ****ing sense... and neither does algebra. **** it.
[Nexus 4 General] thos25:
okay, I got ya. I guess it was a misunderstanding. Perhaps I read your comment wrong.

I thought you were saying that you hadnt heard or seen the freezer results at all. i didnt realize that you were speaking of quadrant in particular.

My mistake.

As for quadrant scores, I am actually hesitant to believe that the thermal issue could have that much of an effect. I mean Quadrant certainly isnt the most taxing benchmark. I admit that I am not a developer or know what exactly is going on behind the scenes, but I cant imagine it is that tough on the chip. The fact is that a quadrant test usually runs for about 30 seconds or so. How hard can it be on that chip. I would like to think it isnt so hard that there is significant thermal throttling.

Other tests like smartbench, geekbench, antutu, etc run a lot longer. I have to assume that they are running that chip every bit as hard as a quadrant. And the fact that they sometimes run for several minutes, those particular benches would have a greater likelihood of throttling.
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
Bear, I love your avatar. Where did you get it? It looks like a Hunter S. Thompson type drawing.
[Nexus 4 General] kcbboy:
even an add to cart button that says 2 to 3 weeks is fine by me as long as I get to place an order.
[Nexus 4 General] lanman2k:
Best late night post I've read in a while.
[Nexus 4 General] dirtyhamster73:
Beautiful, absolutely beautiful...and brilliant....and hilarious.
[Nexus 4 General] DLFB:
we'll get them to turn their backs against Google. Muahahahhhaah.

lol reminds me of:

if you guys haven't seen the show it's actually very good.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
If only I wasn't out of thanks... making a note to come back tomorrow. :)
[Nexus 4 General] WhenBearsReign:
It's a completely valid speculation looking at it from Google's perspective. Maybe not so much the fanboi value, but fulfilling orders before ours (if they sold out again and if they expect a shipment before the end of the 3 weeks) would make sense because they know they will have our money, they don't know how many people are willing to risk not getting their phone three weeks from now (new backorders). The general consumer, not the people like us, will want this phone because it is $300. This is the phone they will choose for their child over the iPhone. What Google will might do is ensure the riskier consumer will receive their product and continue letting the solid Google consumers, us, wait out their three weeks. It's a really awful thing to think of Google doing to us, but it's entirely possible.